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Samcik
02-18-18, 20:49
Thanks for the info about Elizabeth Siri.

Kathy = Kati (ex World Britney?) She is still back in ROM and doesn't really know when she wants to come back. She took many months off last time when she was home too.She's very nice girl but she doesn't like this job. She comes back only when she really needs money.

Sirioja
02-18-18, 21:04
I agree. When I saw Adele last time she told me she's retiring from this job and she will not be back. It's funny that she came back.On this time, she said to return home for about 2 weeks, but not to retire. I wish her to stay as long she can at home.

Leduq
02-18-18, 21:29
I showed up on Thursday in the afternoon and was surprised the LU was better than usual for daytime period.

Met a cute girl called Adina, very gentle and a little shy. Very good service and no upsells unless you choose to upsell yourself. Sex is a little mechanical (she looks away, like she's not into it), but overall very good session, would repeat. The second session later on that day was with a tall blonde with a pony tail (sorry forgot the name), very wild in the room, lot of fun to be with. Started slow but session turned into a complete PSE! Made me feel like a movie star. The most fun I've had in a while. I can't wait to see her again. She didn't try to upsell, I was the one to ask to add extras as I was having fun and she was really into it. Providing great service is the best way for a girl to upsell and get repeat business.

Arrived on Friday in the evening and there was a lot more girls than Thursday, I think Oase is a week end place more than weekday (with Mon-Tues. Being the worst). I hung around and had food (both pizza and buffet improved a lot).

Met a cute girl called Marina (Romanian), great service with no ifs or buts was also lots of fun. I was pretty tired by then and spent it hanging around staring at the gorgeous girls walking around before leaving.

ExpatLover
02-18-18, 21:36
She's very nice girl but she doesn't like this job. She comes back only when she really needs money.It is always the same thing the girls always are saying they don't like this job, in fact it is not a job to get fucked so many times every day, if they don t like why they don t find a job, in Europe the things are going well quite easy to find a job, just because they are too stupid and lazy so easier to open mouth and legs. Unfortunately only very few girls are able to quit to be a prostitutes and to build a life full of self esteem, proud.

Rogue Nation
02-18-18, 22:13
She's very nice girl but she doesn't like this job. She comes back only when she really needs money.She must be the only one. LOL. All others love the job and the money is just a side effect.

Nevertheless Britney / Kati is a good Session. A lot better now than years ago before she had to he boob job.

Tessy (Black Girl, she claims to be from Jamaica) gives great service.

Danny227
02-18-18, 23:40
I agree. When I saw Adele last time she told me she's retiring from this job and she will not be back. It's funny that she came back.Thanks guys. I was always afraid to try her. Seems very pleasant out side the room and I got the feeling that it is fake, but now I must try.

Member #4585
02-19-18, 06:04
Dora the 20 year, long black haired old ex Sharks bar staff with good English and some German is now working at Oase. She has a friend with similar look as her companion. Dora is recognised by wearing patent red leather high heels, not the usual stripper high heels.

Member #4585
02-19-18, 06:05
Thanks guys. I was always afraid to try her. Seems very pleasant out side the room and I got the feeling that it is fake, but now I must try.Adele is recommended. She performs well. Generous with her time when she knows you.

Danny227
02-19-18, 09:49
Dora the 20 year, long black haired old ex Sharks bar staff with good English and some German is now working at Oase. She has a friend with similar look as her companion. Dora is recognised by wearing patent red leather high heels, not the usual stripper high heels.Dora, is the Lisa look alike? Strong Blue eyes? Cause that would be amazing!

Sirioja
02-19-18, 12:05
I have my own views regarding a girl who refuses a hitherto regular well paying client. In my very first visit to Rio de Janeiro many years ago I repeated with an extremely hot garota at a terma, then on my third visit there I saw an even hotter garota who I went directly to and avoided the first one, well, the first one pouted as hell. In my fourth visit I chose the first one who unhesitatingly went with me only asking why I did not go with her the previous time. My view is that when the first chosen girl refuses the regular client it means that she has gotten emotionally attached to that client and feels hurt that he avoided her. It means that she would have given up other clients for him in similar circumstances. Her refusal of him is her way of avoiding further heartbreak. Remember they are human.I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types, but I agree with you: When you go a few times with a girl, even in brothels, and she doesn't mind knowing you go with other girls, it just means you are not more than money for her, among her other clients.

If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then they all ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?

Romanian, French, Russian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs. I just discovered some German girls can also be, asking to another girl if I have same way for sex with her, when I said to her I chose only her, I would not return to the other girl, even I miss a bit the other one.

When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.

My experiences with my FKK girls I meet weekly, most don t want I go with other girls and some don t forgive. Better for me to have only 1 favorite per club, and even like this, my LR Eve was told about Kate by a German guy I didn't know, but who need to tell her about me.

All is not about money, even with prostitutes, behind always a woman who hide, but can be woken up, and that is the interesting game to play, to touch the woman. Prostitute behavior is not interesting, then it s time to leave and find a fresh one.

ExpatLover
02-19-18, 19:44
I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types, but I agree with you: When you go a few times with a girl, even in brothels, and she doesn't mind knowing you go with other girls, it just means you are not more than money for her, among her other clients.

If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then they all ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?

Romanian, French, Russian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs. I just discovered some German girls can also be, asking to another girl if I have same way for sex with her, when I said to her I chose only her, I would not return to the other girl, even I miss a bit the other one.

When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.

My experiences with my FKK girls I meet weekly, most don t want I go with other girls and some don t forgive. Better for me to have only 1 favorite per club, and even like this, my LR Eve was told about Kate by a German guy I didn't know, but who need to tell her about me.

All is not about money, even with prostitutes, behind always a woman who hide, but can be woken up, and that is the interesting game to play, to touch the woman. Prostitute behavior is not interesting, then it s time to leave and find a fresh one.99% of the girls are just looking after our money, go to your favorite and tell today I have no money but I want to go to the room with you probably she will refuse so you know what is the important for you, personally I never find a girl accepting to go to the room without money but maybe you are the lucky guy. You are too romantic, they.

ExpatLover
02-19-18, 19:48
I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types, but I agree with you: When you go a few times with a girl, even in brothels, and she doesn't mind knowing you go with other girls, it just means you are not more than money for her, among her other clients.

If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then they all ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?

Romanian, French, Russian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs. I just discovered some German girls can also be, asking to another girl if I have same way for sex with her, when I said to her I chose only her, I would not return to the other girl, even I miss a bit the other one.

When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.

My experiences with my FKK girls I meet weekly, most don t want I go with other girls and some don t forgive. Better for me to have only 1 favorite per club, and even like this, my LR Eve was told about Kate by a German guy I didn't know, but who need to tell her about me.

All is not about money, even with prostitutes, behind always a woman who hide, but can be woken up, and that is the interesting game to play, to touch the woman. Prostitute behavior is not interesting, then it s time to leave and find a fresh one.They are all prostitutes, 99% of them are just willing to suck our cash, try to fuck her without paying it will probably not be possible so you know what you are for her eyes. If you meet the same girl every week for several hours I think it could be healthier for you to find a real girl friend not a prostitute, the sex with her will be 100 better than to be the 5000 or 15000 or more monger from any prostitutes in a club. The girls are here to be fucked, we should not try to get something more or else.

Sirioja
02-19-18, 23:43
If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then she ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?

Romanian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs.

When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.I improve because I was said this on first room on this Saturday, when all her body was shaking, with chicken skin, hard nipples, and looking at me with scared eyes. Fortunately, smiles to finish, and she seemed more self confident when she returned to the lounge after our room. My Romanian looking like a Geisha.

But girls who come to you each time they see you for 1 year, can really change of behavior, when you don't go with them, or when they see you going with another girl. I was said I humiliated one because I refused she kissed me, [Deleted by Admin].

ExpatLover
02-20-18, 07:49
Many times I refused to be kissed by prostitutes, they are actress and they know what you are looking for.

Member #4585
02-20-18, 08:48
Dora, is the Lisa look alike? Strong Blue eyes? Cause that would be amazing!No, this Dora has brown eyes. Different girl I am afraid.

Turgid
02-20-18, 14:20
I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types....I am banging many providers in Brazil who have whiter skins and are more caucasian looking than most Romanian girls, especially in Sao Paulo. No upselling and BBBJ and DFK in Brazil are as normal as FS in FKK.

Aadakodaa
02-20-18, 18:45
Hey guys,

FKK is a unique concept that I've never heard of before, and I'm really excited to visit one. I'm visiting Frankfurt this coming weekend, any tips for a first-timer?

BadinSweet
02-20-18, 19:33
Turgid, where did you go in Sao Paulo? I agree that service in Brazil is top notch. I have visited Bomboa and clinica like Miruna and Brooklin but I find the quality in FKK are much better.

This bartender Dora, is that her real name at the bar at Sharks? I don't remember anyone with that name. I will have to make a visit to Oase to find her, LOL.

VetMILFHunter
02-20-18, 19:54
My flight is coming up soon for me to visit the great Oase. Has anyone ever traveled with Cialis or Viagra in there luggage without a prescription? I have plenty to bring with me just don't want any issues with having in my luggage an no prescription for them. Staying at the Mercure hotel can't wait to give you guys hopefully live reports while I'm there. Thanks.

Sirioja
02-20-18, 20:41
I am banging many providers in Brazil who have whiter skins and are more caucasian looking than most Romanian girls, especially in Sao Paulo. No upselling and BBBJ and DFK in Brazil are as normal as FS in FKK.I don't like Latinas fake moaning, but I love some Romanian woman types sensuality. Romanian girls don't seem so used to foreplay, with their Romanian BF, so, funny to see their reactions, when you caress them. Some can really play your game when they trust you and like you.

DFK and BBBJ without upselling, are standard for me in Germany, with my many Romanian GF met.

DaWong949
02-20-18, 23:41
My flight is coming up soon for me to visit the great Oase. Has anyone ever traveled with Cialis or Viagra in there luggage without a prescription? I have plenty to bring with me just don't want any issues with having in my luggage an no prescription for them. Staying at the Mercure hotel can't wait to give you guys hopefully live reports while I'm there. Thanks.I never have any issue. However, I only carry what I need for the trip. If you have case of that, you need to be careful.

Namelessperson
02-21-18, 00:04
I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?

Thank you in advance.

Member #4585
02-21-18, 01:58
Hey guys,

FKK is a unique concept that I've never heard of before, and I'm really excited to visit one. I'm visiting Frankfurt this coming weekend, any tips for a first-timer?Respect the Oase cat (yellow and white) since it can scratch you when you pet it. The cat is seen sleeping in the relax room with the tired men a lot.

Member #4585
02-21-18, 01:59
I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?

Thank you in advance.There is one skinny Asian woman at Oase working on the floor side of the counter.

I cannot remember if I saw a black woman this past weekend.

DaWong949
02-21-18, 02:11
Respect the Oase cat (yellow and white) since it can scratch you when you pet it. The cat is seen sleeping in the relax room with the tired men a lot.It happened to me. We were so used to pet a cat or a dog in California. I thought she was nice kitten. Wrong! She was bloody pussy cat who can scratched your finger off. I had blood all over my index finger. Luckily it was not that deep. Yes. You are Warned!

Jmioffe
02-21-18, 02:24
I am banging many providers in Brazil who have whiter skins and are more caucasian looking than most Romanian girls...

Ha, true. How is it that the Romanian vet Dakota looks like a mulatta?

ExpatLover
02-21-18, 04:52
My flight is coming up soon for me to visit the great Oase. Has anyone ever traveled with Cialis or Viagra in there luggage without a prescription? I have plenty to bring with me just don't want any issues with having in my luggage an no prescription for them. Staying at the Mercure hotel can't wait to give you guys hopefully live reports while I'm there. Thanks.I think there is no risk, I am travelling a lot and never any custom officer ask me any questions about any kind of pills I was carrying. Why do you need to take those kind of pills? If you are are healthy I really think there is no need I am 60 and never used it. You will just fuck prostitutes so no stress.

Vito Corleone
02-21-18, 07:48
I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?

Thank you in advance.There's 4 black babes at Oase.

Rogue Nation
02-21-18, 07:49
Two Black girls. The only Asian girl from time to time is Kim. 40+.

Vito Corleone
02-21-18, 07:51
Hey guys,

FKK is a unique concept that I've never heard of before, and I'm really excited to visit one. I'm visiting Frankfurt this coming weekend, any tips for a first-timer?I would tip the girls. Better service when the chicks find out you tip. The locals are thrilled as it helps with the local economy.

Member #4585
02-21-18, 08:16
It happened to me. We were so used to pet a cat or a dog in California. I thought she was nice kitten. Wrong! She was bloody pussy cat who can scratched your finger off. I had blood all over my index finger. Luckily it was not that deep. Yes. You are Warned!Was it you (or someone else) that when they got scratched by the Oase pussy and went to reception for a band aid that Mauro saw the situation and handed out free entrance cards in sympathy.

FormulaOneFan
02-21-18, 08:37
I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?

Thank you in advance.No offense, but if you want asian or black ladies, go where they are plentiful.

When in Europe, I never session with asian girls. I save that for asia.

Turgid
02-21-18, 14:08
I don't like Latinas fake moaning, but I love some Romanian woman types sensuality. Romanian girls don't seem so used to foreplay, with their Romanian BF, so, funny to see their reactions, when you caress them. Some can really play your game when they trust you and like you.

DFK and BBBJ without upselling, are standard for me in Germany, with my many Romanian GF met.Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. However, although Brazilian babes can be more caucasian looking than Romanians I am more attracted to the Romanian girls than the Brazilian providers. The Brazilian bodies are fitter than the Romanians' but the Romanians are thinner and I prefer thinner, just my taste.

VetMILFHunter
02-21-18, 14:35
I never have any issue. However, I only carry what I need for the trip. If you have case of that, you need to be careful.Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?

RonndeRonne
02-21-18, 14:49
I'm coming to Frankfurt for a few days fun for 1st time. Can someone recommend any girls with Big Natural Breasts? And which days I'll find them at Oase?

Thanks.

ExpatLover
02-21-18, 16:29
Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. However, although Brazilian babes can be more caucasian looking than Romanians I am more attracted to the Romanian girls than the Brazilian providers. The Brazilian bodies are fitter than the Romanians' but the Romanians are thinner and I prefer thinner, just my taste.Perfect summary it is P6 nothing more, no money no sex. They perfectly know what different guys are looking for, and they provide it that is all.

DaWong949
02-21-18, 18:50
Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?Together with my other medicine.

Member #4585
02-21-18, 19:10
Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?I put mine in my clear plastic bag with the liquids for inspection by airport security to ensure they are kosher. Open and honest.

Airport security give me a smile and wink.

DaWong949
02-21-18, 19:37
Was it you (or someone else) that when they got scratched by the Oase pussy and went to reception for a band aid that Mauro saw the situation and handed out free entrance cards in sympathy.Yes. It was me. Although free pass is great (I asked for one and got three). But I will for sure not get too close to that Oase Queen again.

FYI.

My son (18 years old) just got bitten (tiny little bit into skin) by a dog who was on leash last Sunday when he was jogging. Teenage thought no big deal and did not ask the person if the dog was vaccinated this year and did not ask phone number for the person either. We as parent called the doctor and were informed to go ER right away to get treatment. The bill for ER is over 1 k. We probably.

Overreacted. But Safety is number one.

VetMILFHunter
02-21-18, 19:40
I put mine in my clear plastic bag with the liquids for inspection by airport security to ensure they are kosher. Open and honest.

Airport security give me a smile and wink.I'm sure that's not what you do. I don't do Kosher either. I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.

Dawong,

You recommend carry on or in checked baggage?

Member #4585
02-21-18, 20:23
I'm sure that's not what you do. I don't do Kosher either. I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.

Dawong,

You recommend carry on or in checked baggage?I am serious. In my carry on luggage with my liquids and medicines in a clear plastic bag for inspection. Exactly as DaWong says he does with his medicines.

There has been many times I have been stopped and my bag searched.

The security guy opens on bag and it is full of lube and condoms. He is more embarrassed than I am about that. He quickly shuts the bag up and puts it back into my carry on luggage.

The security guy examines my clear plastic bag and checks nothing is over 100mL in liquids. He sees the pills and smiles when he realises what they are. I say it's for my personal life. He says he is not interested.

I give an answer and you don't like it laughing at it. Then why even ask the question if you're not ready to accept the answer. Up to you. I just report, you can listen or not listen.

If you think you are doing anything illegal then it is what you feel.

Samplerr
02-21-18, 20:30
I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.It's Germany, not the UAE, so no reason to be worried unless you have industrial quantities with you.

http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Entering-Germany/Restrictions/Medicinal-products-and-narcotics/medicinal-products-and-narcotics_node.html

Kosher Kowboy
02-21-18, 20:48
I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.I loved that show but I do not think we will be TV stars for being Viagra smugglers. I take Viagra pills, Viagra troches and Vigara gel packs on my trips as well as the 5 MG daily cialis. I have a prescription for all but the gel packs. They are not intended for use in the United States but we can order them if we are using them outside the USA either way, no Rx.

Never had an issue with our TSA going thru security with any of the items nor customs on the way back. Never had an issue entering Germany or going thru airport security on the return flight often twice, once to enter the gate area the other right at the gate.

I do not think you have any worries. Carry on or underneath the plane I do not think makes a difference in fact I would put them all under the plane but in the event my luggage is misplaced I want a portion on me.

ExpatLover
02-21-18, 20:55
I loved that show but I do not think we will be TV stars for being Viagra smugglers. I take Viagra pills, Viagra troches and Vigara gel packs on my trips as well as the 5 MG daily cialis. I have a prescription for all but the gel packs. They are not intended for use in the United States but we can order them if we are using them outside the USA either way, no Rx.

Never had an issue with our TSA going thru security with any of the items nor customs on the way back. Never had an issue entering Germany or going thru airport security on the return flight often twice, once to enter the gate area the other right at the gate.

I do not think you have any worries. Carry on or underneath the plane I do not think makes a difference in fact I would put them all under the plane but in the event my luggage is misplaced I want a portion on me.What I do' t understand, when you write you are looking like the strong guy full of testosterone, fucking the girls when you want and in each to their wholes but you need Viagra, cialis just to be a normal man, what a pity, I am 60 but I never took any Viagra but obviously I need better erotic than dietz. Probably it is because of Dietz that you lost all your sexual power I can understand you, just one time there but took me a long time to recover from such a dirty place. Small advice just stop all those crazy pills and wait until you really want to have sex, probably f.

DaWong949
02-21-18, 21:39
I'm sure that's not what you do. I don't do Kosher either. I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.

Dawong,

You recommend carry on or in checked baggage?Always in carry on so I will not have it lost.

Sirioja
02-21-18, 22:33
Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. However, although Brazilian babes can be more caucasian looking than Romanians I am more attracted to the Romanian girls than the Brazilian providers. The Brazilian bodies are fitter than the Romanians' but the Romanians are thinner and I prefer thinner, just my taste.Maybe I'm the luckiest guy with Romanian girls, but for my many experiences with many Romanian girls, they are honest about money with me. Sometimes they can be jealous.

Sirioja
02-21-18, 22:43
It happened to me. We were so used to pet a cat or a dog in California. I thought she was nice kitten. Wrong! She was bloody pussy cat who can scratched your finger off. I had blood all over my index finger. Luckily it was not that deep. Yes. You are Warned!Yellow Belok is a good girl, she sleeps with me, on my feet, in relax room. She was just scared.

VetMILFHunter
02-21-18, 22:56
I am serious. In my carry on luggage with my liquids and medicines in a clear plastic bag for inspection. Exactly as DaWong says he does with his medicines.

There has been many times I have been stopped and my bag searched.

The security guy opens on bag and it is full of lube and condoms. He is more embarrassed than I am about that. He quickly shuts the bag up and puts it back into my carry on luggage.

The security guy examines my clear plastic bag and checks nothing is over 100mL in liquids. He sees the pills and smiles when he realises what they are. I say it's for my personal life. He says he is not interested.

I give an answer and you don't like it laughing at it. Then why even ask the question if you're not ready to accept the answer. Up to you. I just report, you can listen or not listen.

If you think you are doing anything illegal then it is what you feel.I'm sorry I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. Thanks for the info.

VetMILFHunter
02-21-18, 22:58
It's Germany, not the UAE, so no reason to be worried unless you have industrial quantities with you.

http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Entering-Germany/Restrictions/Medicinal-products-and-narcotics/medicinal-products-and-narcotics_node.htmlJust about 10 pills to get me through my trip. I don't have the original packaging though. As I get them from from a 50 year old guy that I work with.

VetMILFHunter
02-21-18, 23:03
I loved that show but I do not think we will be TV stars for being Viagra smugglers. I take Viagra pills, Viagra troches and Vigara gel packs on my trips as well as the 5 MG daily cialis. I have a prescription for all but the gel packs. They are not intended for use in the United States but we can order them if we are using them outside the USA either way, no Rx.

Never had an issue with our TSA going thru security with any of the items nor customs on the way back. Never had an issue entering Germany or going thru airport security on the return flight often twice, once to enter the gate area the other right at the gate.

I do not think you have any worries. Carry on or underneath the plane I do not think makes a difference in fact I would put them all under the plane but in the event my luggage is misplaced I want a portion on me.How you been Kosher? Thanks for the info. Just little worries that I don't have original packaging it goes in nor a prescription for them. Was going to put in bottle with Advil and hope for the best. When are you going over again? I'm right down the road from you in the Hill Country. Near marble falls.

I'll take your word on it as we travel from the same place.

Thanks again.

FormulaOneFan
02-22-18, 08:10
Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?No issue here either. I keep them in a ziplock bag with my condoms and tuck them in a side pocket in my suitcase. Whether it's checked or carry-on. Done the same thing flying to Europe as well as all over asia. China, Korea, thailand, singapore, Japan.

Edit:

mine are in the original package (blister packs) and are a mix of cialis and of a viagra clone that I get from the UK guy that advertises on ISG. I also sometimes buy the thai version from pharmacies in bangkok

Willa1
02-22-18, 18:14
How you been Kosher? Thanks for the info. Just little worries that I don't have original packaging it goes in nor a prescription for them. Was going to put in bottle with Advil and hope for the best. When are you going over again? I'm right down the road from you in the Hill Country. Near marble falls.

I'll take your word on it as we travel from the same place.

Thanks again.Hi Vet,

I travel extensively in Europe (Frankfurt is my gateway city) including Germany, France, Spain, Denmark, Italy), Asia (India, Thailand, China, Philippines), Brazil, & US. Always carry my own Viagra & Cialis. Mostly in split format (buy 50 MG, use 25) - and in a plastic bag in my briefcase. Never been an issue. No prescription nor usually not in original blister pack. Having said that, rarely bring more than 3 pills split into 2. So no way can I be accused of distribution, etc. I have been thru 'extended' security in Germany (random) - and never mentioned.

Will.

Rogue Nation
02-23-18, 08:42
Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. Sure. Brazilian girls do it because they love sex and enjoy the sex with older Caucasians. They are not into the money only.

They might be better actors and hoping for you to be the prince to get them out of the life they are leading into a western country and better life. If you are mongering in SA.

Member #4585
02-23-18, 08:43
I'm sorry I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. Thanks for the info.I hope given the other responses supporting my original answer that I was telling true. I don't know why you thought I was being not correct.

Sirioja
02-23-18, 09:22
Yellow Belok is a good girl, she sleeps with me, on my feet, in relax room. She was just scared.We slept close on last night, I think she likes my respect, I let her my bed, after Adela just back on day.

Elisabet. Hu also back, not so fit.

A black girl with fake blond. She was getting Asians, they really go with anything blond.

VetMILFHunter
02-23-18, 14:12
I hope given the other responses supporting my original answer that I was telling true. I don't know why you thought I was being not correct.Absolutely, sorry that I took it the wrong way. Seems like I will be alright with bringing them either way. Thanks.

VetMILFHunter
02-23-18, 14:13
Hi Vet,

I travel extensively in Europe (Frankfurt is my gateway city) including Germany, France, Spain, Denmark, Italy), Asia (India, Thailand, China, Philippines), Brazil, & US. Always carry my own Viagra & Cialis. Mostly in split format (buy 50 MG, use 25) - and in a plastic bag in my briefcase. Never been an issue. No prescription nor usually not in original blister pack. Having said that, rarely bring more than 3 pills split into 2. So no way can I be accused of distribution, etc. I have been thru 'extended' security in Germany (random) - and never mentioned.

Will.Thank you everyone for the help. Counting down the minutes till my flight leaves.

FormulaOneFan
02-25-18, 22:03
Elisabet. Hu also back, not so fit.
.A bit less fit than a few months ago, but still dynamite in the room.

Takedown
02-26-18, 21:34
Curious, In Sharks / Darmstadt registration is extended through March 1st. What is the situation at Oase? Did they benefit from the extension or can I assume that all of the girls that I saw in January were already registered?

ExpatLover
02-27-18, 03:19
Curious, In Sharks / Darmstadt registration is extended through March 1st. What is the situation at Oase? Did they benefit from the extension or can I assume that all of the girls that I saw in January were already registered?I don't believe there is a extension the girls need to have a appointment to have the right to enter the club.

John Poppen
02-27-18, 03:19
Has anybody been at Oase at 10:00 AM when it opens? How is the line-up lets say on a Friday? Are there enough number of girls?

Takedown
02-27-18, 03:41
Has anybody been at Oase at 10:00 AM when it opens? How is the line-up lets say on a Friday? Are there enough number of girls?Usually 1 or 2 girls are ready exactly at 10 am then they trickle out of the locker room over the next couple of hours. Should see maybe 10-12 girls by 1200 building up to around 30-40 by 4 pm when night shift start to trickle in.

Its nice to wake up to a cup of coffee and watch the girls trickle in wearing their civilian clothes or sleep wear😀

UltraHappy
02-27-18, 04:29
Just beware that even though the doors open at 10 am, breakfast isn't available until 11 am on the dot.

Member #4585
02-27-18, 05:53
A bit less fit than a few months ago, but still dynamite in the room.Elizabeth hu is still as pale as ever but really her current look of being chubby does not do it for me. She has many American admirers who would call her slim to average for their experience with American girls but really not for me.

Saying she is not as fit is being diplomatic.

Service for me was so so for my experience I am sorry.

John Poppen
02-27-18, 07:00
Usually 1 or 2 girls are ready exactly at 10 am then they trickle out of the locker room over the next couple of hours. Should see maybe 10-12 girls by 1200 building up to around 30-40 by 4 pm when night shift start to trickle in.

Its nice to wake up to a cup of coffee and watch the girls trickle in wearing their civilian clothes or sleep wear😀Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?

Tristan45
02-27-18, 15:32
I'm coming to Frankfurt for a few days fun for 1st time. Can someone recommend any girls with Big Natural Breasts? And which days I'll find them at Oase?

Thanks.Go to Palace instead. There you have Christina, Maria, Bianca and Lisa with huge naturals. Christina is by far my favorite. Good luck and please let me know what you found.

Vito Corleone
02-27-18, 17:19
Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?Red light district next to Frankfurt main station. Open 24/7.

Takedown
02-27-18, 18:05
Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?Can't help you there, not my scene.

But I'm sure some residents of the Red Light District eros centers would be awake and available.

Member #4585
02-27-18, 23:36
It was one of those surreal events.

I was sat on a couch observing the naked flesh on display. Hey someone has to do it. The viewing may not be politically correct but hey FKK is not politically correct.

Anyway a girl walks up with security behind her and points at one Ottoman Turk in a robe. Of course as an Ottoman Turk he is wearing panties and not naked underneath his robe.

So next thing one knows, the Security guys have got hold of the Ottoman and start dragging him out to reception and pull the Oase Robe off him, pull his locker keyband off him and throw him out the door.

One security man watches the door while the other security man goes down to the locker room to collect the Ottoman Turk's personal effects. The security guy returns and then throws all the Ottoman's stuff at him as he huddled freezing cold outside the Reception door in this panties.

So you see there is enforcement for behaviour going on at Oase which you do not see at Sharks.

Be good out there.

Member #4585
02-27-18, 23:53
Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?At 10 am I am still in bed. I will just do a do it yourself hand job and save some bucks.

Do it all the time. Sometimes even when I plan to go to FKK I lose all my spunk before I get in the door. I end up doing wellness for hours and hours to recharge my spunk battery.

Member #4585
02-28-18, 00:29
I was sat on a couch in the main lounge watching the gazelles walking by doing their rounds.

One pretty Romania girl with firm but fleshy natural breasts caught my attention span was sitting at another couch.

So anyway, a tall dark haired Western Europe man walk up to the girl. She say something to her and then next thing we know the go is saying no and shaking her head. Girl even yells out to within air shot of others "NO".

The German gets an adverse reaction but backs off. The girl clearly cannot believe that this goes on.

We suggest the German man was asking for anal sex from her and she did not do sodomy or the German man was known to have a coke can sized width cock that was way to big for her small cavities.

A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too. The 60 year old German was well cool.

Anyway next customer to approach the girl was a white American man. He went off for a 15 minutes session

After the American was an Asian man who went to the girl that refused the younger German man.

The German man had no visible tattoos indicating he was gang related like Hell's Angels of either the Turkish or German chapters.

Strange. Maybe it was 50 bucks.

Pistons
02-28-18, 00:32
Just beware that even though the doors open at 10 am, breakfast isn't available until 11 am on the dot.But by the time he is done in the locker and has had a shower it is probably more like 10.30. I have gotten there early many times, but never had to wait more than 10 minutes for breakfast. It happens they let you start 5 minutes early also.

Pistons
02-28-18, 00:34
LOL, are you live reporting now Bitumen?

DaWong949
02-28-18, 06:36
I was sat on a couch in the main lounge watching the gazelles walking by doing their rounds.

One pretty Romania girl with firm but fleshy natural breasts caught my attention span was sitting at another couch.

So anyway, a tall dark haired Western Europe man walk up to the girl. She say something to her and then next thing we know the go is saying no and shaking her head. Girl even yells out to within air shot of others "NO".

The German gets an adverse reaction but backs off. The girl clearly cannot believe that this goes on.

We suggest the German man was asking for anal sex from her and she did not do sodomy or the German man was known to have a coke can sized width cock that was way to big for her small cavities.

A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too..Keep it up. Live report is way to go!

ExpatLover
02-28-18, 07:08
I was sat on a couch in the main lounge watching the gazelles walking by doing their rounds.

One pretty Romania girl with firm but fleshy natural breasts caught my attention span was sitting at another couch.

So anyway, a tall dark haired Western Europe man walk up to the girl. She say something to her and then next thing we know the go is saying no and shaking her head. Girl even yells out to within air shot of others "NO".

The German gets an adverse reaction but backs off. The girl clearly cannot believe that this goes on.

We suggest the German man was asking for anal sex from her and she did not do sodomy or the German man was known to have a coke can sized width cock that was way to big for her small cavities.

A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too. The 60 year old German was well cool..Sometimes I am quite amazed by some reactions, of course girls are refusing some guys this is nothing new.

Rogue Nation
02-28-18, 14:38
saying no and shaking her head.

A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too. T.He is damn right. Girls can and do refuse clients, some in a more subtle, others in a more direct way. Reason could be anything from bad personal experience with him, intel about the guy that he is very demanding, dick too big, rude with the girls, smelling, trying to force her to BB service, asking directly for BB service, trouble paying or or or.

Jmioffe
03-01-18, 01:59
"wearing panties"? Male underwear or female underwear? Any idea why he was ejected? Ripped off or mistreated a WG?


It was one of those surreal events.

I was sat on a couch observing the naked flesh on display. Hey someone has to do it. The viewing may not be politically correct but hey FKK is not politically correct.

Anyway a girl walks up with security behind her and points at one Ottoman Turk in a robe. Of course as an Ottoman Turk he is wearing panties and not naked underneath his robe.

So next thing one knows, the Security guys have got hold of the Ottoman and start dragging him out to reception and pull the Oase Robe off him, pull his locker keyband off him and throw him out the door.

One security man watches the door while the other security man goes down to the locker room to collect the Ottoman Turk's personal effects. The security guy returns and then throws all the Ottoman's stuff at him as he huddled freezing cold outside the Reception door in this panties.

So you see there is enforcement for behaviour going on at Oase which you do not see at Sharks.

Be good out there.

Member #4585
03-01-18, 05:07
"wearing panties"? Male underwear or female underwear? Any idea why he was ejected? Ripped off or mistreated a WG?Panties is referring to the tendency for Ottomans and Italians to wear their big under pants when they go into the sauna, jacuzzi and also wear under their robe. Some even wear a T shirt under their robes. This is meant to a FKK. Nudity is expected.

I know that girl that pointed him out and due to that scene I shall not be going with anymore to the room if she has that much clout to get an Ottoman thrown out of the club.

Kosher Kowboy
03-01-18, 08:14
I know that girl that pointed him out and due to that scene I shall not be going with anymore to the room if she has that much clout to get an Ottoman thrown out of the club.


"wearing panties"? Male underwear or female underwear? Any idea why he was ejected? Ripped off or mistreated a WG?I was in the club the other day too and did not see him kicked out but yesterday in a discussion with a girl as I was rather surprised they allowed men to have the phones in the club she did tell me a guy a day or two ago had his flash off and a girl saw him pointing the camera and apparently was taking a photo. They probably smashed his phone on the pavement outside too.

Member #4585
03-01-18, 08:30
The older German man I met in the club was so well organised he had brought his own food into the club to eat as well. He said the food was not always good or even edible. The meat was over cooked sitting in warmers for hours and hours he rather have a couple of filled rolls he made himself. I watch him eat them as I had some soup from the main dinner menu.

Still the freshly cooked pizza included in your entry fee is still the crowd pleaser for me.

Speak to the man in Italian or Romanian to get the pizza tailored to order as to thickness, size and toppings.

Member #4585
03-01-18, 08:33
I was in the club the other day too and did not see him kicked out but yesterday in a discussion with a girl as I was rather surprised they allowed men to have the phones in the club she did tell me a guy a day or two ago had his flash off and a girl saw him pointing the camera and apparently was taking a photo. They probably smashed his phone on the pavement outside too.Phones are allowed everywhere in Oase from what I can see. I use my phone in the restaurant, TV area with the high tables and also in the main lounge. It is like Golden Time in this respect. Guys have to have trust that no one is making movies when there.

Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?

Kosher Kowboy
03-01-18, 08:56
Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?Be stateside not too long from now, yes, will have report. Oase grew on me this trip it had been two years since went and I think I will mix it up with Sharks on upcoming trips I have booked in the Frankfurt area and will be adding the Devorah girls in Barcelona and get back to Madrid as well. I abandoned Spain so will add it back in the mix. The Gypsy House is starting the get boring and I can not keep fucking the same ones over and over. The Oase girls all seemed very nice, I even sampled one of the 3 Africans for a change of pace.


Still the freshly cooked pizza included in your entry fee is still the crowd pleaser for me.I got several of them (the spicy Diablo was my favorite) and the guy that cleans up the restaurant and the lady behind the bar are both extremely nice and pleasant. They also have good soups, I do not recall Sharks having soup but I might have missed it.

Massimo Potente
03-01-18, 12:26
Phones are allowed everywhere in Oase from what I can see. I use my phone in the restaurant, TV area with the high tables and also in the main lounge. It is like Golden Time in this respect. Guys have to have trust that no one is making movies when there.

Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?Yes, this is very convenient and yet I got hardly used to it when I was in Oase the last time. It is just so weird because in almost all other FKKs you can't use it and that is the reasonable way to go in my opinion. I know also in GT and Livingroom you can use your phone or even your laptop right in the middle of the club. Convenient but weird to me. And I really wouldn't want to find myself in a position in which I am accused of having filmed the naked ladies.

NNC1701
03-01-18, 13:00
Yes, this is very convenient and yet I got hardly used to it when I was in Oase the last time. It is just so weird because in almost all other FKKs you can't use it and that is the reasonable way to go in my opinion. I know also in GT and Livingroom you can use your phone or even your laptop right in the middle of the club. Convenient but weird to me. And I really wouldn't want to find myself in a position in which I am accused of having filmed the naked ladies.Good to hear that one can use their phone everywhere in Oase. I really miss not being able to use my phone in Sharks, because usually I'm bored to death in between sessions. There is a limit to the amount of "people watching," eating, sauna trips, massages and superficial short 2 minute "Hi-how-are-you / what's-your-name / where-are-you-from" and "let's-go-to-a-room" conversations I can do during a day.

Zorp 001
03-01-18, 14:13
Phones are allowed everywhere in Oase from what I can see. I use my phone in the restaurant, TV area with the high tables and also in the main lounge. It is like Golden Time in this respect. Guys have to have trust that no one is making movies when there.

Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?I'm not sure how the girls are feeling about clients being allowed to use their phones and that they could be filmed at any moment. I am not against the use of phones in FKKs, but there should be places where the phone is a no-go. The girls shouldn't have to fear being filmed while they are working and it must make them uneasy knowing that it could happen at any moment.

Member #4585
03-01-18, 14:50
Yes, this is very convenient and yet I got hardly used to it when I was in Oase the last time. It is just so weird because in almost all other FKKs you can't use it and that is the reasonable way to go in my opinion. I know also in GT and Livingroom you can use your phone or even your laptop right in the middle of the club. Convenient but weird to me. And I really wouldn't want to find myself in a position in which I am accused of having filmed the naked ladies.Two edged sword.

Convenience of WiFi for the addicts but then the risk of exposure in the club in real time.

Turgid
03-01-18, 18:05
I was in the club the other day too and did not see him kicked out but yesterday in a discussion with a girl as I was rather surprised they allowed men to have the phones in the club she did tell me a guy a day or two ago had his flash off and a girl saw him pointing the camera and apparently was taking a photo. They probably smashed his phone on the pavement outside too.I hope they checked the phone first to see that he really did take photos.

Shark16
03-01-18, 18:31
I'm not sure how the girls are feeling about clients being allowed to use their phones and that they could be filmed at any moment. I am not against the use of phones in FKKs, but there should be places where the phone is a no-go. The girls shouldn't have to fear being filmed while they are working and it must make them uneasy knowing that it could happen at any moment.I can assure you that the girls don't like to be filmed. Last summer this guy took pictures with his phone of the girls skinnydipping and sunbathing by the pool. The girls saw it, yelled at the guy, and immediately called security. 30 seconds later the guy was surrounded by 2- 3 big guys asking him to delete every single photo of the girls while standing over him and at the end checking his phone. Not a pleasant situation.

Sirioja
03-01-18, 18:58
Good to hear that one can use their phone everywhere in Oase. I really miss not being able to use my phone in Sharks, because usually I'm bored to death in between sessions. There is a limit to the amount of "people watching," eating, sauna trips, massages and superficial short 2 minute "Hi-how-are-you / what's-your-name / where-are-you-from" and "let's-go-to-a-room" conversations I can do during a day.Can use phone at GT, LR, Aca, Samya.

DaWong949
03-01-18, 19:25
The older German man I met in the club was so well organised he had brought his own food into the club to eat as well. He said the food was not always good or even edible. The meat was over cooked sitting in warmers for hours and hours he rather have a couple of filled rolls he made himself. I watch him eat them as I had some soup from the main dinner menu.

Still the freshly cooked pizza included in your entry fee is still the crowd pleaser for me.

Speak to the man in Italian or Romanian to get the pizza tailored to order as to thickness, size and toppings.The only complaint I have for free pizza is very salty.

Massimo Potente
03-01-18, 19:43
Two edged sword.

Convenience of WiFi for the addicts but then the risk of exposure in the club in real time.For sure. Although I can't really be exposed in Germany it is rather the general feeling that I don't want to be on pictures that I have not explicitly authorized. But well, as long as the OASE management thinks it is ok, we will probably be fine with it, too. Still find it weird, though. LOL.

ExpatLover
03-01-18, 19:48
I can assure you that the girls don't like to be filmed. Last summer this guy took pictures with his phone of the girls skinnydipping and sunbathing by the pool. The girls saw it, yelled at the guy, and immediately called security. 30 seconds later the guy was surrounded by 2- 3 big guys asking him to delete every single photo of the girls while standing over him and at the end checking his phone. Not a pleasant situation.They are prostitutes, many of them are used to be on internet as a escort, they will do everything to sell themselves, I will never take a picture from any girl just because I don't care.

Lanthano
03-01-18, 22:43
Hi all,

So I'm heading off to my grande finale to my week at Oase tomorrow. I'll be taking the S5 to Friedrichsdorf then a taxi to get there.

Is there anything I should know or be careful of, any particular distinction between the way things work in Oase compared to Sharks?

Tips on how to get the most out of what Oase has to offer?

As usual thanks for any help and I will be writing a full report when I get back.

DaWong949
03-02-18, 00:25
Hi all,

So I'm heading off to my grande finale to my week at Oase tomorrow. I'll be taking the S5 to Friedrichsdorf then a taxi to get there.

Is there anything I should know or be careful of, any particular distinction between the way things work in Oase compared to Sharks?

Tips on how to get the most out of what Oase has to offer?

As usual thanks for any help and I will be writing a full report when I get back.Not really. All those WGs are pretty much the same. They are there to make money. However, most of them are nice. Just treat them like what you like to be treated. It will all works it out.

One important thing though. Do not get Close to that cat in the quite room (where only man can go). That pussy cat is wild.

Sirioja
03-02-18, 07:35
Not really. All those WGs are pretty much the same. They are there to make money. However, most of them are nice. Just treat them like what you like to be treated. It will all works it out.

One important thing though. Do not get Close to that cat in the quite room (where only man can go). That pussy cat is wild.Better to ask girls about what you like, before going to room at Oase.

Yellow Belok is the only girl at Oase who sleep with you for free. Sometimes I sleep with her for 3 or 4 hours, other girls would ask for 300/400, she just want you to be quiet with her. The less expensive girl at Oase.

Cats also love me when I take breakfast at GT, waiting I give them ham.

Interesting experience at Oase: One of the prettiest girl avoided me on my few visits on 2017, even we never even spoke together. Once I had a room with her very pretty friend, then on my next visit both were smiling, then we had a chat with the girl who avoided me, after our first room, on very late night I think she didn't want I go with another girl, so we repeated. On my next visit, she came to me when she saw me. Even at Oase, I think she doesn't want I do the same sex with other girls, like with most of my girls.

Jmioffe
03-02-18, 10:52
The girls shouldn't have to fear being filmed while they are working and it must make them uneasy knowing that it could happen at any moment.I agree. Put me in the no-phone camp. I sympathize with the girls' need for discretion, and I won't refuse it for me either.

I think most people can live for a few hours away from their phones, and as a bonus: no having to overhear lame one way conversations or some doofus guffawing at the tinny sounds of some sitcom from their phone. These things make me feel like I'm on some commuter train from the suburbs, not exactly the spa atmosphere a lot these clubs strive for.

Turgid
03-02-18, 15:07
I have no desire of bringing a phone into an FKK. However, I still own an ipod and would love to bring it into the club to listen to my choice of music and podcasts but have always resisted. I have also resisted bringing my laptop which, if I did, I would spend an entire day from opening to close in the club as I could work rather than spending just a few hours which is what I do.

Lanthano
03-02-18, 15:12
Using my phone here as we speak. I consider it a plus. A nice right not to be abused.

Plus it allows me to unwind better in the quiet room, get some reading done. Definitely a plus.

ExpatLover
03-02-18, 20:34
I have no desire of bringing a phone into an FKK. However, I still own an ipod and would love to bring it into the club to listen to my choice of music and podcasts but have always resisted. I have also resisted bringing my laptop which, if I did, I would spend an entire day from opening to close in the club as I could work rather than spending just a few hours which is what I do.In Oase laptop are only allowed in the rest area upstairs. I use my ipod for many years in all the club without any problem.

HungryStud101
03-03-18, 02:07
Using my phone here as we speak. I consider it a plus. A nice right not to be abused.

Plus it allows me to unwind better in the quiet room, get some reading done. Definitely a plus.I just read your post in another thread. I was able to use my cell phone as well. I used it to take notes on the girls (and not take photos.) No one said a word. Tell me, was this a problem for you at Sharks?

Lanthano
03-03-18, 02:44
I just read your post in another thread. I was able to use my cell phone as well. I used it to take notes on the girls (and not take photos.) No one said a word. Tell me, was this a problem for you at Sharks?I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.

Here they're much more laid back about it.

ExpatLover
03-03-18, 08:40
I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.

Here they're much more laid back about it.No use of phone allowed in Shark.

Rogue Nation
03-03-18, 11:27
I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.

Here they're much more laid back about it.No WiFi at Sharks or World, both clubs do not allow mobiles in the club area except lockers or reception. Same for Palace and Mainhattan, but they do have WiFi. Oase has WiFi and allows mobiles everywhere.

ExpatLover
03-03-18, 21:43
No WiFi at Sharks or World, both clubs do not allow mobiles in the club area except lockers or reception. Same for Palace and Mainhattan, but they do have WiFi. Oase has WiFi and allows mobiles everywhere.Sorry but we visit clubs to session girls and now we are spending so much energy about wifi or not, is it really important?

Pistons
03-03-18, 22:52
Artemis has, or rather had a functioning wifi which used to be for use in the reception area. Nowadays it is there, but the receptionists probably lie about it not working any longer.

Aca and Oceans in nrw have functioning wifis usable anywhere. Just like Oase.

At Samya, phones are only allowed at reception area iirc. I do not recall if they have any wifi's at all either.

Can't recall at GT, but radio signals there are terrible, so no G4 at least, except for at odd spots. Probably not a functioning wifi at least.

In NL, YY doesn't allow phones to be used inside. SS has a Wifi and phones are allowed anywhere.

In Austria, Wellcum and gt Vienna doesn't allow phones to be used inside the club. Wellcum at least does have Wifi for use in the reception area / hotel. (Can't recall about GT Vienna).

Sirioja
03-04-18, 03:08
I have no desire of bringing a phone into an FKK. However, I still own an ipod and would love to bring it into the club to listen to my choice of music and podcasts but have always resisted. I have also resisted bringing my laptop which, if I did, I would spend an entire day from opening to close in the club as I could work rather than spending just a few hours which is what I do.World or job don't stop when you are in brothels, sometimes have to work from brothels, with mails.

Member #4585
03-04-18, 03:29
The only complaint I have for free pizza is very salty.Especially the Diavolo pizza comprising spicy sausage (pikant) and peppers (paprika). I need water or fruit juice to help that one go down the hatchet

Massimo Potente
03-04-18, 13:27
In Austria, Wellcum and gt Vienna doesn't allow phones to be used inside the club. Wellcum at least does have Wifi for use in the reception area / hotel. (Can't recall about GT Vienna).GT Vienna has a PC close to the entrance that all clients and girls can use. It is nextto the cash machine and the cigarette dispenser.

In GT there is 1 table where girls sit, who take a break and are not available for sessions or who do not work at all on that day. Clients can sit there as well and using your phone there is more or less accepted. Girls and the staff will watch out, though, to prevent that clients take photos or vids of the girls or anyone or anything. Generally in Vienna management of the brothels is not as militant than it is in Germany often. But don't test them and their patience, is my advice!

On that particular table I have used my laptop a couple of times. Sometimes I was allowed to do it and another time I was told to pack it away as girls might feel uncomfortable.

In FP you are not allowed to use your phone or but the respectless clientele that they generally have doesn't much care about rules.

In Babylon you can use your phone for sure and it plays an important rule there.

In Maxim you are allowed to use it and also laptops but you will be warned as soon as it seems as though somebody is being filmed.

That's how it is in the main clubs in Vienna.

HungryStud101
03-04-18, 14:47
I used the notes function I my I-phone in Oase last year. I used in in GTs as well. I walked around with it in my pocket all day and night. I may just have to bring along a pen and pocket sized pad. Otherwise I could never remember all those names and facts that I put in my reports.

Lanthano
03-04-18, 14:49
Stayed from 1 pm to 5 am the next morning (closing time at the weekend).

GETTING THERE: I got in early rather early, again much more easily than it looks on the map. S5 to Friedrichsdorf (5€ end of the line), then a 10€ taxi ride to Oase (I do not know of any simpler way to get there).

LAYOUT / FACILITIES: The outside looks like kind of Temple with the inside decorations keeping a sort of Roman Therme feel. Arriving inside, it seems quite with some confusing halls so I took my time to get my bearings. In short: enter the door and the register is to the right, 50 entry for arrivals before 4 pm. Past the next doorway to the left is the Kino (nonstop porno)/ main room which is designed like a night club / bar. This is the area where most of the girls assemble at a given time, however they do rounds to other areas.

Straight ahead down the steps is the changing area which again holds several hundred lockers. All around the back area before going down the steps, there are dozens of rooms to take the girls to.

To the right is the bathing area, with a TV area at the top, down the steps is the jacuzzi and to the left, the cafeteria where food is served non-stop, even before lunch is formally ready, a breakfast buffet which had eggs, fruit, sausages, hash browns and chicken wings was available, allowing me to get my fill even earlier. Next to the jacuzzi to the back are more rooms for sessions. Behind the seats and tables, there is the entrance to the left up some steps to a Ruhebereich Resting Room where you can sleep or rest away from any noise whenever you feel like it, girls are not allowed in this area allowing you to easily take a break whenever and for however long.

The large door directly behind the tables to a rather generously big outside area which one couldn't really take advantage of in the snowy winter weather, however clear to see is the building just to the right up the steps which houses the hamam and sauna. Further outside there is a large pool, a shed and a path around leading to an odd small altar like-building which has a mirror to the back (don't know what it's for, maybe for shows? There clearly are benches tables and all sorts of other summer facilities to look forward to when the weather starts to heat up. Statues everywhere in the garden. The area looks isolated enough so that one needn't fear for one's privacy.

No tanning facilities (curiously absent).

GIRLS / LINE-UP: The girls are more aggressive here than in sharks, especially after arriving early, I had already declined at least 5 girls within the first 40 minutes. Personally this isn't a complaint, I prefer it.
I didn't find the line-up to be better than sharks necessarily, just definitely more varied: Black girls (African girls at least 2), a few asians, Eastern European Barbies, brunettes, latinas, no redheads from what I could see.

Even up till closing, there were at least 60 or 70 girls that I counted. There is a shift system in place whereby girls are not allowed to leave before the end, keeping the quantity constant (how this works when the girls pay an entrance fee and are supposedly independent, I do not know).
The girl / guest ratio however earlier in the evening was fantastic in the kino / club room, ridiculous even, at 7/1 near 7 o'clock. However this ratio then went down as the evening progressed. By 3 pm I was less impressed by the girls there, the lookers wouldn't talk to me or exchange glances, and I was getting approached by a few porkers and girls that I wouldn't fuck for free, let alone for 50. But it was late, people get tired. Including me.

I as a matter of course steer clear of the barbies that chase after the Asians, and the ones with an attitude problem as I do not think they will provide a good service.
Often I would often see teams of two gather around Asian gentlemen sitting alone, and coaxing them, likely then in the room likely offering 10 minutes of CBJ and no kissing (I'm guessing here).
One Moldovan girl who kept doing the rounds near the pool, blond with wonderful tits and great proportions, would only do sessions for 100, and worse, the session would only be 30 minutes. No thanks.

I had the pleasure of meeting 3 other ISG users here by chance, and we all exchanged experiences. 1 guy got stuck with a CBJ despite negotiating otherwise by the tall dark Spanish (ha) girl. Another guy (not from the 3) got CBJ'the though perhaps he didn't negotiate it explicitly. It can happen. I take my time and negotiate, to make sure it doesn't.

MY SERVICE: Katharina, a brunette with beautifully shaped lips, tanned body with beached blond hair and some inner blue streaks gave an adequate service. BBJ didn't kiss much (only lips) refused to take her leggings off (which then made me add a different element to my negotiation (bbj, 50, full nude, not just kissing but DFK). Perhaps I should also try kissing before choosing to go to the room.

Her blowjob skills were however to die for, with her initial start, looking up at me while doing it, at a speed and sensitivity (tongue curved in a way that it would glide as she sucked up and down) that would have made me cum had I not asked her to go slower. She did missionary and doggie style, where I was perhaps rough (condom evidence pointed to bleeding. I don't know why that happens) and came with a day's pause ferocity. I can recommend her, just don't cheese her off hours before by telling her that you hate her name and that she should consider changing it (a joke) or be a bit pushy, otherwise you may get the leggings too. All in all, fine compared to other people's experiences.

At 4 am: Denisa: 25 yo "Spanish" (gypsy) with a dark tanned body and black hair that just did it for me. Was nice enough and provided a great service, plus showed all the signs I made a note for in the main hall, let me kiss before chosing her, accepted bbj, DFK, full nude (made sure to make it clear). Wasn't sure if I was up for it but she clearly showed otherwise.

Afterwards, in time for almost closing time, I was done. Great night, made full use of the facilities. The snow outside complemented my several trips to the sauna.

Damage: 2 x50€ sessions, 50€ entry (probably ate that much in food)= 150€.

VERDICT: Still worth the trip and an occasional option, however Sharks slightly edges out in terms of the quality of girls and quantity as well. If you are however looking for an experience that is more paced, less intense, quiet and relaxing, Oase is better and is more like a spa. Also being allowed to use your find and access wifi is a massive plus in my book. Oase is probably even better during the summer with its great outside area.

I personally would also only come for a full day stay rather than for a couple of hours given the cost to get there and inside. Given the feedback and posts on here, I guess that Oase used to be at the top, and has since had to the cede its crown to Sharks under intense competition. Still worth going to though in my opinion.

Hope this report has been helpful.

HungryStud101
03-04-18, 15:16
I think I made a tactical error last year. Sounds like you did a great job negotiating the mind field.

How do I link this guys report to the reports of distinction and the other one from Sharks?

These are good reports. Love them.

Ortos
03-04-18, 15:23
I used the notes function I my I-phone in Oase last year. I have insider info that the executives at Apple are coming out with a future version of the I-phone that includes a unique feature: in addition to being able to select "Airplane Mode," the new version will also offer the option to turn your phone to "FKK Club Mode," meaning all camera functions are automatically disabled. Mauro is already getting one for free, gift-wrapped from the Directors!

ExpatLover
03-04-18, 20:21
I have insider info that the executives at Apple are coming out with a future version of the I-phone that includes a unique feature: in addition to being able to select "Airplane Mode," the new version will also offer the option to turn your phone to "FKK Club Mode," meaning all camera functions are automatically disabled. Mauro is already getting one for free, gift-wrapped from the Directors!Mauro should use his energy not on a new phone but on managing his club which is really going in the wrong direction.

DaWong949
03-04-18, 22:39
I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.

Here they're much more laid back about it.No WiFi in Sharks, phone or iPad are not allowed in Sharks either.

Pistons
03-05-18, 00:44
In GT there is 1 table where girls sit, who take a break and are not available for sessions or who do not work at all on that day.This was really annoying me actually. As the by far (in my eyes) hottest girl at GT Vienna was sitting there all day, having a day of. LOL.

Austin28
03-05-18, 05:58
Stayed from 1 pm to 5 am the next morning (closing time at the weekend).


Hope this report has been helpful.Another great report. Really helpful. Planning a trip this Friday.

ExpatLover
03-05-18, 06:46
This was really annoying me actually. As the by far (in my eyes) hottest girl at GT Vienna was sitting there all day, having a day of. LOL.Perhaps she had her period and doesn't want to fuck, so many girls are still working when they have their periods.

Massimo Potente
03-05-18, 14:31
This was really annoying me actually. As the by far (in my eyes) hottest girl at GT Vienna was sitting there all day, having a day of. LOL.Sometimes they can be convinced to get back to work or at least start the day early. Asking never hurts. But of course this area is also supposed to be the space for the girls where they can distance themselves a bit from the ongoings in the club. Get some rest or talk sth private with the other girls or on the phone with friends, family or whoever.

Euroknight
03-05-18, 20:15
I have visited Oase last Friday. It was not my first visit, yet the last one dated back to three years ago. Oase is the only FKK I have visited, thus I can not compare with others: still I hope this report could be useful.

My experience has been absolutely positive. The atmosphere was very relaxed: no huge crowds as it happens during the fairs, and in general the girls were not pressing but cordially inviting. An attitude which I appreciated and put me in the right mood. I used a lot also the resting area during the intercourses. I arrived at around 6 pm on Friday and left the club at 1:30 am on Saturday, spending long times in the jacuzzi which often was completely empty.

The first girl I was with in the room was M*ina: unfortunately I do not remember exactly her name, but she is Rumanian, in her first twenties I would say, easy to recognize because she has two very beautiful eyes (and I think she is very aware of it! I met her at the restaurant and we started to chat. After a while another monger joined us, I think they knew each other since long, and they started to have a friendly conversation. After dinner I found her in the dance area, we sat for few minutes on the sofa where she was quite nice, GF-type, and after just few minutes I invited her to the room. There she gave me a covered BJ (I agreed on this, we neither raised the problem: for me it is perfectly ok, I do not like a risky life.), and touching that wonderful pussy and tits, that warm white skin, after just few minutes I asked for a missionary. She put some oil in her pussy, yet I felt her tight pussy and I came almost immediately. Some chat and then after less than maybe ten minutes we left. For me it was ok, but her attitude is very open and kind: I am sure if I had asked to stay the whole time she would not have objected.

Then I took a long relaxing session in the rest room, and after in the jacuzzi. One of the experiences I had in mind to try was with an african girl, and there came my next girl: Sheyla. I like her because she is a woman, yet her body is perfect, with all what I could desire. She came to me on the jacuzzi border's saying that she recognised me: maybe it was not true, but I liked to believe it. Soon after we were in the room, where she started a fantastic covered BJ. The parfum from her body and hair was very exciting, soon I reached my top and she offered me a doggy: looking at her in the mirrors and her fantastic ass was even more xciting. Finally she sat on me in the reverse position and I started to pound her well until I capitulated, although this time I could not come. However she responded to my hits as a real, wonderful woman, and the whole experience was absolutely fantastic. After she continued to hold my dick, praising its size and oiling it, something other women have done before.

After this second experience I spent a very pleasant time chatting with another ISG member, much more experienced than me, and having a pizza, which I find reasonable. I do not understand people who complain about food in Oase: I find it quite ok, I never had problems as I sometimes I have in other restaurants, and I do not expect a 5-stars restaurant from Oase. Finished dinner, while I was a little bit unsure about what to do (it was already 00:30 and I wanted to leave soon) I was approached by a smiling thailand girl, with long dark hair. I had never been with her before, and my rule with new girls is always to test them with the basic menu: 30 minutes and standard stuff (BJ, missionary, doggy). She accepted and then I went to the room with Selena (this is how she wanted to be called).

This was an experience similar to that with M*na: a very beautiful, relaxed young girl, with a silky skin and nice regular tits, nice to touch and kiss everywhere. This is what makes me on the right way to get hard. She also started with a very nice covered BJ, with little continuous hits of her tongue, wich made me get rocky. Then I asked if she liked doggy, and she answered "yes, I like to be well pounded" (she said this looking at my dck with an intense expression), or something similar. I started to pound this little nice girl well, and after some good time during which she was incredibly nice I finally capitulated. If you look for a smiling girl who reacts well to a man's tretament Selena is definitely a must.

Altogether, I think I will come back to Oase in the near future.

ExpatLover
03-05-18, 20:28
I have visited Oase last Friday. It was not my first visit, yet the last one dated back to three years ago. Oase is the only FKK I have visited, thus I can not compare with others: still I hope this report could be useful.

My experience has been absolutely positive. The atmosphere was very relaxed: no huge crowds as it happens during the fairs, and in general the girls were not pressing but cordially inviting. An attitude which I appreciated and put me in the right mood. I used a lot also the resting area during the intercourses. I arrived at around 6 pm on Friday and left the club at 1:30 am on Saturday, spending long times in the jacuzzi which often was completely empty.

The first girl I was with in the room was M*ina: unfortunately I do not remember exactly her name, but she is Rumanian, in her first twenties I would say, easy to recognize because she has two very beautiful eyes (and I think she is very aware of it! I met her at the restaurant and we started to chat. After a while another monger joined us, I think they knew each other since long, and they started to have a friendly conversation. After dinner I found her in the dance area, we sat for few minutes on the sofa where she was quite nice, GF-type, and after just few minutes I invited her to the room. There she gave me a covered BJ (I agreed on this, we neither raised the problem: for me it is perfectly ok, I do not like a risky life.), and touching that wonderful pussy and tits, that warm white skin, after just few minutes I asked for a missionary. She put some oil in her pussy, yet I felt her tight pussy and I came almost immediately. Some chat and then after less than maybe ten minutes we left. For me it was ok, but her attitude is very open and kind: I am sure if I had asked to stay the whole time she would not have objected..You are just killing us, we are paying for 30 minutes, and because the girl is a pro she made you come in 10 minutes and you left the room, please to use all the 30 minutes next time, even after you came were you not able to spend the remaining time with this very beautiful girl?

ExpatLover
03-05-18, 20:41
I have visited Oase last Friday. It was not my first visit, yet the last one dated back to three years ago. Oase is the only FKK I have visited, thus I can not compare with others: still I hope this report could be useful.

My experience has been absolutely positive. The atmosphere was very relaxed: no huge crowds as it happens during the fairs, and in general the girls were not pressing but cordially inviting. An attitude which I appreciated and put me in the right mood. I used a lot also the resting area during the intercourses. I arrived at around 6 pm on Friday and left the club at 1:30 am on Saturday, spending long times in the jacuzzi which often was completely empty.

The first girl I was with in the room was M*ina: unfortunately I do not remember exactly her name, but she is Rumanian, in her first twenties I would say, easy to recognize because she has two very beautiful eyes (and I think she is very aware of it! I met her at the restaurant and we started to chat. After a while another monger joined us, I think they knew each other since long, and they started to have a friendly conversation. After dinner I found her in the dance area, we sat for few minutes on the sofa where she was quite nice, GF-type, and after just few minutes I invited her to the room. There she gave me a covered BJ (I agreed on this, we neither raised the problem: for me it is perfectly ok, I do not like a risky life.), and touching that wonderful pussy and tits, that warm white skin, after just few minutes I asked for a missionary. She put some oil in her pussy, yet I felt her tight pussy and I came almost immediately. Some chat and then after less than maybe ten minutes we left. For me it was ok, but her attitude is very open and kind: I am sure if I had asked to stay the whole time she would not have objected..She likes to be well pounded so you come fast and leave the room after 10 minutes:

Mac75
03-06-18, 18:38
Short note on my recent Frankfurt trip, visited Oase three times last week on Tuesday, Wednesday & Friday. I went to the room five times with four girls: Alina, Ramona and Raissa (Romanian) and then Selena (Thai), I repeated with Alina. All sessions were E50 for half hour with BBJ included. I clarified this with all girls in advance before going to room, this is necessary nowadays I believe, if not could easily get stuck with a CBJ only once in the room. I enjoyed all rooms particularly Alina, that is why I repeated her. There are definitely some real cows there though who won't go to the room for less than E100. One girl that comes to mind is Helena, a stunning blonde Moldovan girl, only problem is she damn well knows it! I observed her hunting out the Asians there, witnessed her in an argument with one by the money lockers presumably after a room. Overall though I do very much like Oase, good line up of girls, favourable ratio of girls to guys, and excellent facilities. I shall definitely be returning.

ExpatLover
03-06-18, 21:49
Short note on my recent Frankfurt trip, visited Oase three times last week on Tuesday, Wednesday & Friday. I went to the room five times with four girls: Alina, Ramona and Raissa (Romanian) and then Selena (Thai), I repeated with Alina. All sessions were E50 for half hour with BBJ included. I clarified this with all girls in advance before going to room, this is necessary nowadays I believe, if not could easily get stuck with a CBJ only once in the room. I enjoyed all rooms particularly Alina, that is why I repeated her. There are definitely some real cows there though who won't go to the room for less than E100. One girl that comes to mind is Helena, a stunning blonde Moldovan girl, only problem is she damn well knows it! I observed her hunting out the Asians there, witnessed her in an argument with one by the money lockers presumably after a room. Overall though I do very much like Oase, good line up of girls, favourable ratio of girls to guys, and excellent facilities. I shall definitely be returning.Raissa is just a poor prostitute willing to be fucked from each guy for 50 euros even her arshhole is available for 50 at least for me, 0 erotic with her just holes to be filled, with 0 GFE, never will session her again. Enjoy your time in this very cheating place at least for me, definitely a no go club for me.

DaWong949
03-08-18, 11:25
To those who like to stay in Hotel Arkadia.

I have found out this time that their router is blocking all sex websites. So if you want to browse to those sites, you might need to double think about it before you book.

TankTank123
03-08-18, 18:28
To those who like to stay in Hotel Arkadia.

I have found out this time that their router is blocking all sex websites. So if you want to browse to those sites, you might need to double think about it before you book.It had been blocking the sites since last year. They were not blocked before that. Some hotels, like Excelsior, very near the Frankfurt railway station are also blocking them. I hope this practice is not going to spread.

ExpatLover
03-08-18, 23:03
It had been blocking the sites since last year. They were not blocked before that. Some hotels, like Excelsior, very near the Frankfurt railway station are also blocking them. I hope this practice is not going to spread.Just need to use a VPN like Astrill and all the problems are solved.

Kosher Kowboy
03-10-18, 13:35
I decided to make Oase my first stop this trip as it worked out logistically with cheap transport and reduced entry and would be a break from Sharks and a change of pace and all new pussy. I spent day numbers 1,3,6 and 7 here. I really did not expect to come here or spend more than one day but the club grew on me enough to take up four days and leave the Sharks behind and spend money that was intended for the poor Gypsies on a whole new set of Gypsies. Overall I was very pleased with the Gypsies in this club and I usually got there early and would leave before the crowds pour in. I know I may miss out on some talent but it appears that the night shift starts rolling in around 5 which means by the time I am ready to go to the room for the last time I have had a chance to see the LU from day to night. After the last punt of the night it became tradition to shove a pizza down my throat prior to the taxi ride home which was a 45 e flat fee all four nights. I had a great time here, talked to a lot of guys and met a lot of the girls and have zero complaints about the club as the one negative they have no control over. Each time I stepped outside to use the Sauna / steam it stunk of cow manure, hopefully that smell is temporary and simply fertilizer for the spring crops in the area as I do not remember smelling shit like that in the few times I was there over summer 2016.

I often read all about Oase vs. Sharks and Americans back home ask me all the time which club to go to or which one is better. I would simply say especially as an American that having to choose between Oase and Sharks on their worst days is like asking a starving guy whether he would like to wolf down a filet mignon at Flemings Steak House or walk a few blocks and let a delicious cut of Lawry's Prime Rib melt in his mouth. You can not lose. Try both if you have the time. I can see why guys go back and forth between these two clubs and mix it up. I had fun in both gardens in the summertime. I enjoy the food at both. The pizzas are a bonus at Oase after your last fuck of the night and Dieter's sauna treatments are a bonus as well down the road. I do not know if Oase offers such. For non smokers it appears there are some smoke free areas in Oase but I prefer watching girls smoke, sometime when I fuck them. I will probably toy around in both clubs and mix it up myself as I have a few Sharks I wish to go visit and will in time have a few Oase girls to add to the mix and one day crown an Oase Queen. If I had one night only, I would give the edge to Oase as I think ultimately ' you can squeeze more juice' out of the Oase girls, I think that Euro would go a tad further. I do think from a pure optics level Sharks takes the prize home but not by much and that delta is more than made up with what is in my opinion a better attitude overall. I also like my girls a little more on the trashy side than the classy side and I think the Oase girls are dirtier. A bunch of fun tramps. There was much less of a rush and I never got that feeling from any Oase girl whether I fucked her or not that ' she was doing me a favor by working as a prostitute. ' There is nothing wrong with either place but I think at Sharks one needs be prepared to lace up the boxing gloves just a tad tighter. Either place is a score but at Oase I felt surrounded by a bunch of fun dirty tramps and in Sharks I feel surrounded by a bunch of platinum pussy but they are prettier. Either way, both places knock the living shit out of anything within thousands of miles from where I sit in misery. IMHO a newbie would fare better at Oase but as a general rule of thumb if one sticks to their guns one can find whatever they desire at either club.

I found the LU to very appealing and varied with something for every taste. I tend to lean to the service level on the perceived service / optics scale and then slowly work on the optics once I get my feet wet and established in a club. I enjoyed sitting in the main lounge enjoying the eye candy but for educational purposes of which girls were the best I felt the best seat in the house was on the deck just above the whirlpool and restaurant. This gave me the opportunity to see the girls after they got fucked and paid as it is the only way they have to go to drop the used towels in the bin and hit the girls lockers. Likewise it is the only way for them to come out. The best hookers in any establishment are the ones choking on some guys bone or getting cocks shoved up their pussies non stop and are busy not the ones twiddling their thumbs sitting on their tails so sitting in this area or below at the little tables next to the restaurant lets you see the busiest tutes to help with future selection. I do have a little harem in mind to form and about 5 candidates including one that I fucked and I do not think many are brand names except one gorgeous one with a flawless body, the mystery girl.

The mystery girl situates herself in mainly four places. When you first walk in the club there is a couch I think it is a non smoking couch. She sits there. She also sits at the bar on the club side not the side parallel to the entryway or where the towels / robes are. She also sits at a little round table also non smoking perhaps next to the Africans in front of all those white couches. . I noticed no tattoos. She is a blond of short / medium hair length. I venture to guess between 23 and 27 years of age. In heels she seems taller than the rest. The final spot seems to be her standing spot, right there on the floor between the pole / stage and her three sitting spots. She was unemployed constantly and there is no way she was on the unemployment line due to lack of demand rather choice. I think she is saving her pussy for big pay days as she attacked the few Asians right away. She showed no interest whatsoever in the white men. The Asian guests were a very small number and she looked absolutely miserable. I can only conclude the mystery girl is one of Oase's Princesses and for lack of better words one of their ' Pole Dancers. ' She sticks out like a sore thumb. Whoever she is she could be touring the USA getting $500-$750 an hour booked days in advance for multi hours as well. I think she passes on Cheap Charlies for the most part as she makes up the slow times with huge paydays which would explain why she was ' unemployed'.

The first girl I banged was a Samira and I think she was Hungarian. Decent looking girl and decent body a little on the trashy side has long dark hair and a staircase shaped tattoo on her back from the bottom left to the top right. She told me it was her first night. And I have a ten inch cock the width of a coke can. Her lie was proven to be wrong as she told a friend of mine she had been there a year. Seems just about every girl I meet just started on the job. I do not like new girls anyway unless they are on a red couch in Dietzenbach where today employment levels hit new highs for 2018 as there were 14 Gyspies on the couches servicing probably 15 men each (or more). I actually like the high mileage ones, in fact I would venture to say that one of my top two Sharks has probably been fucked more times than any other Shark and if not for sure in the top 2 percentile especially since she is still a steal for 50 e and fucking dozens and dozens of Germans and Turks every month willing to let herself get pounded for a full 30 minutes left and right all night long from dinnertime until the early morning hours adds up to a lot of money. Samira was a good session. Good blowjob, took her time, let me fuck her hard until I lost my hard on and needed a handjob to finish. I remember she had a very nice set of meat hangers. Pretty stretched out for her first night on the job. Those lips were profound but still not as profound as Darmstadt's Domenica's, although Domenica is currently on probation for improper rushed behavior so she had to sit the last trip out while she saw 100 notes tossed around that could have been hers when she normally gets just 50. I find when my wives come off probation they often behave much better and performance elevates to a level higher than when their probationary period started. Sometimes we need to punish our favorites to reprogram their minds in to providing better service. I ate dinner after Samira's handjob I needed since I failed to fill up the rubber.

Condom 1-Man 0.

In no particular order:

I was bouncing around between Oase and the Adult Day Care Center with a guy from Ireland who seemed to have luck on his side this week so I played copy cat. He is sort of like me and will fuck just about anything with a pulse regardless of color, shape, size etc. He had just completed a 50 e Cheap Charlie Special pointed the girl out so I took the Romanian Ramona to the room. Little meat on her bones and ok looking but for a 50 e slam she was just fine, if this guy gives a green light on a girl that is good enough for me. As I was informed her BJ was not the greatest but it did feel good and was administered in the way I prefer. Sex with her was good but I just can not get off with a condom, two years ago this was not an issue when I filled condoms up with DNA in 20 of 21 attempts between Mainhatten, Artemis and Oase in 2016. I needed a handjob to finish. Condom 2-Man 0.

The next girl was a repeat of the prior play, let the Irish guy do the work. I took Alina to the room after him, think she was a Romanian as well, medium / long reddish hair seemed to have spurts where she would fuck 3 or 4 guys in a row than nothing for hours. Her blowjob was much better. Her attitude in the room was superb. I would have done her again but I did not do any repeats. She had a very nice feeling pussy and I was thrilled as I felt a good orgasm coming on to fill up the condom only to be unable to get over that last hump and blow my load, ran out of energy and asked her if she could turbo boost the finish for an extra 50 e, a minute or two later she finished me off and got a crisp 100 e note. Condom 3-Man 0.

I was sitting in the whirlpool when my next vagina to poke appeared. She was working on a guy who had just finished eating, was getting rejected as I saw him rub his belly signaling that he was full. She walked away and glanced at me and I returned the favor. I wanted that pussy. She had a very nice smile and eyes, a nice body and very nice long braided hair probably extensions. She came up and sat down on the edge of the hot tub and lowered herself on her feet in the cowgirl position basically. I got a great view of that bright pink pussy contrasting beautifully with her smooth skin. I knew my tongue would be in there. I also knew it would be in there for a while and another crisp 100 note would be donated. From looking at her I was not sure if I would be speaking English or Spanish as she appeared to be from either from Jamaica or the DR. I need to realize I am not in the Americas nor the Caribbean and Africa is much closer which is where she was from or said she was from. She claimed to be from Ghana. I have not fucked a black chick in ages and getting a black chick of quality in the United States at a price point between a street girl and an overpriced platinum pussy $500 plus an hour ripoff is near impossible unless you want the garbage driven here from Dallas and Houston by pimps. If I am going for the dark meat then I want quality and the Oase Africans IMHO are all good candidates and better than the Africans at Sharks. I have no clue what this girls name was but I told her I needed some time and I would find her later. She departed and I hopped out of the water, went downstairs and swallowed a 100 MG generic Viagra pill and sucked down a Kamagra gel pack. Someone else in the club was also popping gel packs as I saw no less than 10 empty packs over four days lying around.

I took the Ghana girl to the room about 9 Pm or so for an hour. I ate her pussy for a good 20 minutes at least and she soaked the bed and her pink colored lips turned to a purple and doubled in thickness. She gave a great blowjob and was a great fuck. She rode me very well and we had a great rhythm going but still needed a handjob to finish. Close but no cigar. Condom 4-Man 0.

The last Oase girl I did was the best one. I knew she would offer the service I desired as she had already worked on my Irish friend so I knew her name and the scoop with her but he was working another girl. However, I rode his coattails again with the information when the girl approached me in the restaurant and said ' so you are from America' and I said ' Yes, nice to meet you Donna. ' She asked me how I knew her name so I asked her how she knew I was American. She told me the girls talk, I told her the guys do too. She asked me if it was my first time there like all of them do and I told her it was my fourth day there that week and she said ' yes I know, I mean is it your first trip to Oase. ' These girls do not miss a beat. Nothing slips them by. Now Donna may not be everyone's cup of tea she has slightly above average looks, wears glasses and has some inked name on her neck. Look for the girl wearing the brightest red lipstick in the club, they suck cock really well. She was not very pushy very laid back in fact and we discussed a 50 e room. I told her to come find me later in a few hours. She was unemployed all night and was not hunting too hard but I noticed she always came up to check on me and not lose her prey. I think there are more Euros for her in the future and she knows so too. Finally I signaled her over to the couch and we got up and went towards the room. She delivered one hell of a 50 e session, a slow passionate blowjob and she even pretended to enjoy herself, got a little pussy licking in and got to fuck her in two positions, not too bad for 50 e and a bargain by all means in my book. She had a nice tight pussy but these nuts are not easy to pop like at Day Care, I got frustrated, pulled out, tossed the condom to the side and asked her if she would like to earn 50 more euro and met no resistance. My cum was soon in a paper towel in the garbage can and she was handed a crisp 100 note. For me I would certainly repeat for an hour however this time; Condom 5-Man 0.

I have a month and change to get back in shape to fuck with rubbers now. In the meantime the plan is to fuck only covered Austin girls for the next 30 something days. If I have to jerk off with condoms I will. I need to avoid another skunk. I need to go 20-1 again not 0-5. The other day at HEB (Our Rewe) I purchased a 12 pack of extra thick Durex condoms, a bottle of lube and right now somewhere on a truck out for delivery is a Fleshlight molded to the shape of pornstar Brandi Love's vagina en route to my house. I have all the props I need to practice.

Now that I am back one week and rested it is back to basics and play in the minor leagues for one month has started. Yesterday I benched my AO players and I hired two new girls (about 4-6 more will be hired for this part time job) that offer bareback blowjobs and covered full service at a great discount Cheap Charlie rate to practice fucking with condoms until my flight leaves and I will be stopping one week prior to allow testosterone and libido levels to reach peak levels. Yesterday was a very good day as I went to see one of them and pounded her pussy for 20 minutes and she did not care about the fact I went over my 15 minute session by 5 minutes. This is what we call couch time in Texas. I was a hybrid of a Turk and a German. For starters I was cheap and arranged for the minimum amount of time at the lowest possible rate with the highest level of service. Secondly to emulate the Turks I fucked her as hard as I could from start until finish non-stop and to emulate the Germans I made sure not to cum in 5 to 10 minutes like a Turk and instead made sure to get my full time not wasting one second and actually rudely went over my time and took advantage of 5 minutes of ' free Texas couch time' and I made sure just like a good Turk or German would not to leave a tip under any circumstances. I also made that evil latex work hard putting hard wear and tear on it for 20 minutes. I filled that sucker up no problem at all pounding the Austin tute like an animal in a rage to make up for my anger at myself for my terrible performance at FKK Oase. I think today I will go fuck the other one and see if I can fill up a condom two days in a row and push myself but for now it has been a great end to the week , the DOW closed up over 400 points with no Friday post lunch selloff and whoever this mystery girl is I can probably afford her now for two hours and fill up two condoms and tip her. As much as I can not stand Texas I must say we have the cheapest fucking pussy for sale in this country so I plan to fill up 20 rubbers the next 30 days. If I can not fill up a minimum of 17 of 20 rubbers this month than I do not deserve to be let thru passport control next month. The hardest part will probably be finding girls here who actually use rubbers after all no one hates condoms more than German men, Turkish Men and add Texans to that list. I am proud to say I can go to bed tonight with the score:

Man 1- Condom 0.

Rogue Nation
03-10-18, 13:43
Copied this from the Artemis thread. Maybe it will get some people to think about their reporting details.


In general, keep your room benefits private, girls don't provide all guests with the same experience in the room, some get more and some get less. It isn't nice to give such details here on the front page of the newspaper. General information and extreme girls to be careful from is fair game, IMO. Extreme girls, meaning girls that are really terrible in behavior and unfair with the guests. Keeping BJ experiences to yourselves and to private messages seems to be the approach the benefit all the most. This is only my opinion and not everybody must accept it, so please no attacks. Good weekend to all.

Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.

HungryStud101
03-10-18, 13:58
Wow Cowboy. Don't let the condom get the best of you. There are some incredible condoms out there that feel like nothing. Maybe you should carry your own?

Anyway, your plan is a good one. Condoms take practice.

I am very glad to see that you like Oase. Last year was a disaster for me there. I think in part it was cultural shock because things changed in the past 5-years since my last visit and I was not aware of the changes and then I had some bad luck with girls. If it is summer time I would try Oase again and World. Great reporting.

Kosher Kowboy
03-10-18, 14:08
Wow Cowboy. Don't let the condom get the best of you. There are some incredible condoms out there that feel like nothing. Maybe you should carry your own?

Anyway, your plan is a good one. Condoms take practice.

I am very glad to see that you like Oase. Last year was a disaster for me there. I think in part it was cultural shock because things changed in the past 5-years since my last visit and I was not aware of the changes and then I had some bad luck with girls. If it is summer time I would try Oase again and World. Great reporting.I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each. They can probably ship here in time for departure. The sad thing is I brought my own. I brought the thinnest ones they sell here for the most part only to still fail. The reason I bought the extra thick Durex ones for practice with Brandi Love is pretty much the same reason a batter in the on deck circle weighs down his bat so that when he steps to the plate the practice swings were harder than the pitch that was coming.

It took a second visit to grow on me but Oase was great. My guess is service levels and attitudes and LU's can vary often and sometimes one club is better than the other but this time Oase for me killed it. The girls were not a bunch of stuck up like elsewhere. IMHO. However, this probably shifts over the months back and forth and I can only try both whereas the home team Germans and local Euro guys can bounce back and forth anytime much more aware of who is who and which club is peaking at any given time.

We will see how today goes, I sent out 5 text messages to Austin girls who use condoms, will step in to the batting cage with one of them when they wake up. I think I will do a Latina today with a giant pussy. If I can cum in her I can cum in anyone.

I do need to discover the Oase girls with the largest pussies and meatiest pussy lips. I am sure there are plenty of them.

Turgid
03-10-18, 17:42
I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each. They can probably ship here in time for departure. The sad thing is I brought my own. I brought the thinnest ones they sell here for the most part only to still fail. The reason I bought the extra thick Durex ones for practice with Brandi Love is pretty much the same reason a batter in the on deck circle weighs down his bat so that when he steps to the plate the practice swings were harder than the pitch that was coming.

It took a second visit to grow on me but Oase was great. My guess is service levels and attitudes and LU's can vary often and sometimes one club is better than the other but this time Oase for me killed it. The girls were not a bunch of stuck up kunts like elsewhere. IMHO. However, this probably shifts over the months back and forth and I can only try both whereas the home team Germans and local Euro guys can bounce back and forth anytime much more aware of who is who and which club is peaking at any given time.

We will see how today goes, I sent out 5 text messages to Austin girls who use condoms, will step in to the batting cage with one of them when they wake up. I think I will do a Latina today with a giant pussy. If I can cum in her I can cum in anyone.

I do need to discover the Oase girls with the largest pussies and meatiest pussy lips. I am sure there are plenty of them.I never get the big deal about coming in a condom even it is during FS. CIM is so much more enjoyable and is an easier nut. It is more expensive but worth it in my books. Anyway for me 1 CIM is worth 2 CFSs.

Neurosynth
03-10-18, 22:01
Copied this from the Artemis thread. Maybe it will get some people to think about their reporting details.It has always been the case that girls that provide limited services get jealous of the girls who provide less limited services. This has nothing to do with the new law. This is the nature of marketplace competition.


Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.So a girl who used to work at place X is telling guys, essentially, that they will have a harder time finding BBBJ at place X than her current place. Again. The nature of competition. And even this report is soft. "doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago" is hardly definitive.

There were guys who thought reporting BBBJ was a bad idea even before the new law. But I'm sure they had no problem using the information about BBBJ other guys posted.

The only thing not reporting on BBBJ will accomplish is making BBBJ harder to find, more expensive, and less likely others will report on it as well.

BigBuddy69
03-10-18, 22:08
So I'm still waiting impatiently for your BBBJ reports!

Samplerr
03-10-18, 22:41
It has always been the case that girls that provide limited services get jealous of the girls who provide less limited services. This has nothing to do with the new law. This is the nature of marketplace competition.It has everything to do with the new law. The law change may be in some cases just an excuse to limit services or charge extra, but it still triggered the change in behaviour.

Jimmy Boy 99
03-10-18, 23:36
I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each. They can probably ship here in time for departure. Ebay is your friend. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=sagami+002&_sop=16. They were even cheaper last year, when I bought 19 boxes of 12 condoms each for $158.

Danny227
03-11-18, 00:28
It has everything to do with the new law. The law change may be in some cases just an excuse to limit services or charge extra, but it still triggered the change in behaviour.Girls service as compared to other clubs is good in Oase these day. It is the restaurant and bar service that really puts a dent on the situation. I have to wait for a drink for a few minutes while the bar guy flirts with the girls, so I travel to the other bar only to have this guy with shisha shirt do me this huge favor and eventually walk from the other side of the bar to give me water. Terrible service, but girls are pretty good these days. Well, can't have everything be perfect.

Steve 9696
03-11-18, 00:33
I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each.I am like you Kowboy- the condom is just a killer. As another guy said, I love a good CIM, so I usually go there for the finish, but it would be nice if fucking didn't feel like nothing at all, which is the case with most garden variety condoms.

I posted questions about this on *** and actually got some good advice (including the Japanese ones being too small for a Western male with any degree of thickness). There was even one guy who did a complete condom study with the local girls- much like you are doing, but he used all different brands to find the best feeling ones and posted the results. Here is the consensus, compiled from comments, plus his study.

Durex Extra sensitvie.

Skyn.

Trojan Bareskin.

It seems all three of these are similar style and not made of latex, so the ladies like them also -- they feel better and don't smell as bad.

I don't have firsthand knowledge here, but this was a knowledgeable crowd so I intend to try this in cumming weeks, pun intended!

Do the WGs in Oase and Sharks allow you to bring your own? Anyone know?

P.S. Kowboy, I also agree with your point about Oases / Sharks and FKK in general- the guys that complain have obviously not spent much time in the US, where you get spotty service for 5 X the cost. FKKs are god's gift to man.

Sirioja
03-11-18, 06:00
Girls service as compared to other clubs is good in Oase these day. It is the restaurant and bar service that really puts a dent on the situation. I have to wait for a drink for a few minutes while the bar guy flirts with the girls, so I travel to the other bar only to have this guy with shisha shirt do me this huge favor and eventually walk from the other side of the bar to give me water. Terrible service, but girls are pretty good these days. Well, can't have everything be perfect.Yes, improving behavior from Oase girls, maybe because not crowded.

Neurosynth
03-11-18, 06:09
It has everything to do with the new law. The law change may be in some cases just an excuse to limit services or charge extra, but it still triggered the change in behaviour.What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.

BigBuddy69
03-11-18, 06:52
Yes, actually you're the one always telling the others to post their BBBJ reports if I'm correct.

As for the new KK-dilemna, I've been using Manix (or Mates) Skyn for a while and I'm satisfied with them, despite the fact that they really STINK. 99% of the girls accept my condoms (but maybe in Oase / Sharks they'll create a new extra for this). The Skyn Elite is big enough for me, I don't use the Skyn King Size anymore. I tried some time ago the Pasante Unique, I destroyed it after 5 minutes. The thing was ripped apart around my dick. I tried the Protex 0. 02 (same as Sagami but made for the european market so they are a little bigger), it's pretty impossible to squeeze my dick into one of these things. And when I do it it hurts like hell during the insertion because the stuff is not elastic enough. So you can probably forget about their normal size, unless you have a pencil in your pants. When I used regular condoms, the normal size feels too tight. For your future Brandi Love sessions, I suggest you use some kind of Fleshlight with normal condoms (not very thin) so you become more sensitive when you use extra thin condoms. And no more hand! You'll get the death grip syndrome!

EDIT : Trojan Bareskin are made of latex. You can find the Skyn condoms under the Billy Boy brand.

Pistons
03-11-18, 08:47
What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.Your post here makes me think you haven't visited an FKK at all. And if you have, it was a long long time ago.

Pistons
03-11-18, 08:50
Aoni condoms are great. It was somebody in here who tipped me of on them. Best latex condom I've tried. But go for the XL one. I used the normal sized ones for a bit too long and it really hurts the stamina when having a condom that is too small.

Takedown
03-11-18, 10:46
The only thing not reporting on BBBJ will accomplish is making BBBJ harder to find, more expensive, and less likely others will report on it as well.

To clarify, I think the BBBJ issue has finally subsided at Sharks, Oase, GT, Aca but probably not other clubs such as Mainhattan, World, and Palace. I hear Samya still has issues.

But I take issue with the rest of your post. I have no idea how not reporting something good makes it more expensive. Please explain that logic.

Next, so you would only seek out girls that are mentioned here? How hard is it to tell a girl you don't do CBJ and you don't pay for BBBJ. Scared to talk to girls whose names aren't familiar? Stranger Danger! Growing a pair helps.

Look, if I say she provided great service without upsell, that should probably be enough to steer you that way. Can you not do some evaluation yorself to see if perhaps this girl would be good specifically for you? Do you need to know that I licked her asshole for 15 minutes and that she rubbed my prostate with 3 fingers rather than 2? Sicko!

HungryStud101
03-11-18, 11:06
To clarify, I think the BBBJ issue has finally subsided at Sharks, Oase, GT, Aca but probably not other clubs such as Mainhattan, World, and Palace. I hear Samya still has issues.

But I take issue with the rest of your post. I have no idea how not reporting something good makes it more expensive. Please explain that logic.
I have had 9 sessions in three days and not one CBJ and I can't remember if anyone has suggested it. Also, be careful in your reports, Takedown. You risk offending guys that are illiterate and cannot express themselves through the written word and others that are too lazy to try. Besides, this board is for arguing only. LOL.

Yes, this CBJ law is nonsensical and I would like to understand the science behind this nonsense.

It's time to rise up brothers and sisters!

Takedown
03-11-18, 11:16
What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.I think the situation is cool now but are you telling me that no girl ever tried to upsell you BBBJ after July 1st? You must be a super VIP, you stud 😉. I know all of my monger friends have had that issue numerous times. In August Lara definitely expected 100 from our half hour session citing that I should know BBBJ was more. I only gave her 50 since we never explicitly discussed it. That same day Kathy definitely tried also but in the end made me promise to do an hour to get BBBJ. I obliged. At Aca at least half the girls at Aca did but their lack of clients definitely put an end to that quick. It was a problem at Samya too, may still be.

Takedown
03-11-18, 11:19
I have had 9 sessions in three days and not one CBJ and I can't remember if anyone has suggested it. Also, be careful in your reports, Takedown. You risk offending guys that are illiterate and cannot express themselves through the written word and others that are too lazy to try. Besides, this board is for arguing only. LOL.

Yes, this CBJ law is nonsensical and I would like to understand the science behind this nonsense.

It's time to rise up brothers and sisters!I agree that by Febuary, I no longer had that issue at Oase but it definitely was a problem during the second half of 2017 when the law was fresh.

HungryStud101
03-11-18, 11:20
I think the situation is cool now but are you telling me that no girl ever tried to upsell you BBBJ after July 1st? You must be a super VIP, you stud 😉. I know all of my monger friends have had that issue numerous times. In August Lara definitely expected 100 from our half hour session citing that I should know BBBJ was more. I only gave her 50 since we never explicitly discussed it. That same day Kathy definitely tried also but in the end made me promise to do an hour to get BBBJ. I obliged. At Aca at least half the girls at Aca did but their lack of clients definitely put an end to that quick. It was a problem at Samya too, may still be.I haven't been here since last March. I was scared to death that I was going to get awful service and believe me, nobody has offered to do me for free. I am just saying that the CBJ law was my greatest fear upon my return and it is not an issue this trip. Things change fast. I think in Sharks a few girls said no BBBJ for the 30 minute 50 Euro dates but many would and all would do it for a 1-hour date.

So the only impact the law has had on the FKK scene is that it has given the RO women another bargaining chip for the upsell to a 1-hour date.

Takedown
03-11-18, 11:24
No, I am not saying that. I haven't been here since last March. I was scared to death that I was going to get awful service and believe me, nobody has offered to do me for free. I am just saying that the CBJ law was my greatest fear upon my return and it is not an issue this trip. Things change fast. I think in Sharks a few girls said no BBBJ for the 30 minute 50 Euro dates but many would and all would do it for a 1-hour date.Agreed, the situation has gotten better as of late but the one hour requirement is still lingering. 50 euro guys have it much tougher.

Takedown
03-11-18, 11:29
I haven't been here since last March. I was scared to death that I was going to get awful service and believe me, nobody has offered to do me for free. I am just saying that the CBJ law was my greatest fear upon my return and it is not an issue this trip. Things change fast. I think in Sharks a few girls said no BBBJ for the 30 minute 50 Euro dates but many would and all would do it for a 1-hour date.

So the only impact the law has had on the FKK scene is that it has given the RO women another bargaining chip for the upsell to a 1-hour date.LOL, just realized I jokingly made references to prostates and ass licking. I just realized that you reported both of those things. Unintentional referendes to you. Must have been subliminal, LOL. Nice reports.

Rogue Nation
03-11-18, 11:33
So the only impact the law has had on the FKK scene is that it has given the RO women another bargaining chip for the upsell to a 1-hour date.It gives authorities additional reasons to harass clubs as they are allowing illegal practices. Sometimes it's worth thinking ahead.

Sirioja
03-11-18, 12:13
I think I give information on this forum, even I can't anymore name some of my girls to protect them from so jealous readers who tell to girls bullshits about me, but I agree with Rogue, giving sexual details about girls services can make them problems with other girls jealousy, like for Lucy. De at Palace, or staff if they are controlled about new law. Some of my very regulars know I'm a writer, for my respect for them and as some ask, I don't give details about private sex in room.

I have my eyes and brain to choose girls, my behavior and manners to get from them, I don t need to follow others list or experience. Besides, all girls don t give the same with all of us, anal sex with Asian size is not the same than with African size.

Samplerr
03-11-18, 13:18
What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.BBBJ was the default up until the law change. In over a decade of frequent club visits I was never offered CBJ before the law changed. A week ago Kira told me she wouldn't go to the room with me if I wanted BBBJ, so I refused her. The old service is still offered by many, if not most, but it's no longer a given. The most common issue appears to be with obtaining BBBJ in a 50 Euro session. There's plenty of examples in reports since the law change of negotiations over BBBJ, but here's one example.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3172-FKK-Mainhattan-Frankfurt&p=2132278&viewfull=1#post2132278


The only thing not reporting on BBBJ will accomplish is making BBBJ harder to find, more expensive, and less likely others will report on it as well.If there's been no change to the status quo, then why do you need reports to help you find BBBJ?

HungryStud101
03-11-18, 14:12
LOL, just realized I jokingly made references to prostates and ass licking. I just realized that you reported both of those things. Unintentional referendes to you. Must have been subliminal, LOL. Nice reports.LOL, no offense mate. Yes, I have violated every hole now and I have even had my hole violated fro good measure. I had to like a couple more at LR (see report.).


. Before my trip to Oase last week I had a scan of the previous ten pages of posts to see if I could pick up any tips on girls and services received and I couldn't see anything. We need to get back to sharing useful information with each other about girls / services / costs in an uninhibited manner without self appointed moderators such as yourself interfering and deciding for us what is right or wrong. Enough said!You are absolutely correct. We are here to help our brothers. If we are just here to insult and argue and act miserable than fuck it, I will quit. I really had to dig for anything useful. Thank God for the PM function. Right now the reports seem to be flowing and the cynic in me believes that the self appointed moderators don't like it. Maybe we are sharing info on their favorites and they would prefer us tourists get ripped off by Melanie at Sharks type ladies and go home dissatisfied and then they can tell us that we need to learn how to seduce cat-house girls.

BTW - The girls are passing info about us all the time. I have caught them at both place I have visited the past 3 days. Why do I have to be the one that is disadvantaged?

Note from Jackson: The reports must flow!

Let's have some fun!

Takedown
03-11-18, 14:24
Thank God for the PM function. Right now the reports seem to be flowing and the cynic in me believes that the self appointed moderators don't like it. Maybe we are sharing info on their favorites and they would prefer us tourists get ripped off by Melanie at Sharks type ladies Why do I have to be the one that is disadvantaged?

It's been alluded to that it's better to PM some info and most who mention that certain topics being taboo happily give out info via PM. Information on bad providers is openly posted so you're not disadvantaged. I'm no moderator, probably always on the brink of moderation actually, but those that go enough would rather not see some people fuck it all up.

But like another poster mentioned to you, pointing out a provider for giving 50 euro anal at Sharks will probably poor form.

McAdonis
03-11-18, 15:39
BTW - The girls are passing info about us all the time. I have caught them at both place I have visited the past 3 days. Why do I have to be the one that is disadvantaged?

Absolutely true. Many customers seem to have rivalries with one another over certain WGs, so don't want to share info. Other mongers choose to self-censor to maintain their anonymity, citing issues they have had with WGs or more often other mongers.

Best info is usually shared inside the clubs with other men. At minimum there is no confusion, because we are both rudely looking at same WG as we are talking about her. But this works better at smaller clubs where there is a higher proportion of regulars (although Sharks Sunday used to be okay for this in the past). At certain clubs, WGs that I approach for the first time, will say, "I saw you talking to (some customer who she knows as a regular). Were you two gossiping about WGs?"

Rogue Nation
03-11-18, 17:06
Right now the reports seem to be flowing and the cynic in me believes that the self appointed moderators don't like it. Maybe we are sharing info on their favorites and they would prefer us tourists get ripped off by Melanie at Sharks type ladies and go home dissatisfied and then they can tell us that we need to learn how to seduce cat-house girls..Au contraire, the more business the good girls get the longer they stay. So report as much as possible, good or bad girls, we will all benefit from it. Me with my opposing pov on BBBJ reporting is another topic.

Kosher Kowboy
03-11-18, 21:08
Absolutely true. Many customers seem to have rivalries with one another over certain WGs, so don't want to share info. Other mongers choose to self-censor to maintain their anonymity, citing issues they have had with WGs or more often other mongers.

Best info is usually shared inside the clubs with other men. At minimum there is no confusion, because we are both rudely looking at same WG as we are talking about her. But this works better at smaller clubs where there is a higher proportion of regulars (although Sharks Sunday used to be okay for this in the past). At certain clubs, WGs that I approach for the first time, will say, "I saw you talking to (some customer who she knows as a regular). Were you two gossiping about WGs?"Excellent post all points I wholeheartedly agree on especially the mention of the rivalries between guys. I do not understand (well I actually do I have been there been done that and learned from my mistakes) why some of these guys are getting emotionally attached to these girls some to the point of obsession as is the case with one Princess who is not at Oase and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out who.

I will add to your list of not sharing information is some guys simply develop sentiments and can not bear the thought of a random poster writing how his favorite girl sucked some other guys cock, got fucked by him hard and did in her in the rear and shot his wad of cum down her throat although that is what these girls get paid to do in the first place. These girls do not give a fuck about us just our Euros and IMO guys are best off leaving their experiences at the club door when they leave. I would much rather read reports than guys trying to get one up on another to try to show ownership of a girl or that they are ' liked ' more by letting other guys know they saw a WG in the mountains on FB or another WG is hanging out in a certain city now per Instagram or another WG went sailing off the Italian coast because frankly I do not care. That is their personal life.

Why not be mongers and talk about fucking them and share the stories because your favorite working girl as I type is not thinking of you just getting paid by whatever john right now has her in doggy ramming his massive thick cock deep in to her and she probably loves it while she howls and cums without you.

Anyway along the lines of your very comment McAdonis my mystery girl was identified, positive ID 100 percent and my description was right on. I was told not to post or share her name and normally I would like to for discussion purposes but since asked not to I will respect this guy's wishes who did decide to share his regular's name. He told me the reason not to post it is because two guys maybe a few more on here in specific would get upset and tell her she is being discussed on the ISG which they apparently do not like. (Back home we call these guys White Knights) Respectful of this guy willing to share, I will respect his wishes.

Anyway, for all those dreamers there is no wedding chapel in Sharks and the ISG is not a dating site. At least not for me. I believe in writing reviews and giving back the best I can for what I take, is that not the purpose?

Optimist
03-11-18, 21:15
Au contraire, the more business the good girls get the longer they stay. So report as much as possible, good or bad girls, we will all benefit from it. Me with my opposing pov on BBBJ reporting is another topic.Yes, the more reports the better. KK, Lanthano and others are doing some real reporting.

As for the reporting on BBBJ, I would be a pathetic specimen if I could only get the services I wanted if somebody else had already reported on it, as Samplerr says.

Optimist
03-11-18, 21:21
It gives authorities additional reasons to harass clubs as they are allowing illegal practices. Sometimes it's worth thinking ahead.There have just recently been a coordinated string of raids in several towns, allegedly focusing on trafficking and illegal working. Press reports have referred to this enforcement as being made easier by the new law (registration requirements). The new law is said to be having an effect, and (my opinion) will gradually increase its effects over time.

Neurosynth
03-11-18, 21:30
Your post here makes me think you haven't visited an FKK at all. And if you have, it was a long long time ago.Your post here makes me think you have no actual specific evidence, and so you attack the poster rather than the post.

Pistons
03-11-18, 21:58
Au contraire, the more business the good girls get the longer they stay. So report as much as possible, good or bad girls, we will all benefit from it. Me with my opposing pov on BBBJ reporting is another topic.Indeed, that's why I name names of the top girls I want should stick around so often. Although I do hide much of the intimacy.

Neurosynth
03-11-18, 21:58
The question was asked as to why not posting about BBBJ or BBFS (AO) would lead to those services being harder to find or more expensive if found.

This goes back to the basic phenomena that any kind of prohibition brings. During the alcohol prohibition in the US what happened? People didn't stop drinking. Booze was a bit harder to find. It became more expensive. It became the basis for all manner of criminality. The downside of prohibition was so bad that it overwhelmed the anticipated upside, and after a few years was abandoned.

It should be obvious that if X goes unreported, it becomes more difficult to find. The main point of posts on boards like this is to make services easier to find at a fair price. Those who will find it the most difficult will be those guys just starting out. And at one point we were all just guys starting out.

What some of those who insist reporting on BB services is a bad thing are really saying it's bad FOR THEM. (Or so they think.) The attitude is "I've got mine, and if sharing will endanger that, I'd rather not share. " This is not returning the favor of sharing info as it was shared with them at one time.

So self-censorship obviously makes BB services harder to find. No info is no info. But does it cause prices to go up? Yes, and for the same reason. Self-censorship ends up limiting things on the supply side, and when supply goes down and demand remains static, prices go up. It's basic economics, and you can see it in the reporting here. It's not the law causing girls to want to up-charge for BB services. It's the fact that thanks to things being pushed underground they think they can command higher prices.

And it's the guys trying to get everyone to self-censor who assist these would-be up-charging girls in getting away with it.

The more BB services are normalized by open reporting, the more they will be expected, the more they will be easy to find, the harder it will be for girls to charge extra, and the more ineffective this already impossible to enforce law will become. This is one area where perception really does become reality. If you want a reality where BB services are hard to find and more expensive, then go ahead and contribute to the perception that because of this mostly ineffectual law guys need to self-censor.

Pistons
03-11-18, 22:01
Your post here makes me think you have no actual specific evidence, and so you attack the poster rather than the post.I just haven't seen any reports at all by you, and your knowledge regarding the status quo on BBBJ makes me think you haven't visited FKK's in awhile. True or false?

Takedown
03-11-18, 22:19
Anyway, for all those dreamers there is no wedding chapel in Sharks and the ISG is not a dating site. At least not for me. I believe in writing reviews and giving back the best I can for what I take, is that not the purpose?It's a forum of discussion. International Sex guide, not FKK girls directory. You'll find plenty of info mixed in with a plethora of other conversation. If you want a template format, lobby the moderators to post a sticky like they do on other boards.

The nature of the FKK scene will naturally lead to more discussion than just reviews. Social dynamics do exist, and by design. That's what makes the scene special. If the reviews of another man's one hour is all you're interested in, then don't participate in the other discussion and skip to posts with the content you want. It takes 10 seconds to skim each page until you find a review. At the same time, I can extract plenty of info about girls and the scene from some of these fluff posts.

And just because you've never known a girl outside of a club doesn't mean it doesn't happen regularly. Whether seeing a girl outside of a club is a healthy activity is another story. I for one have no regrets. These girls have caused me no more grief than civilian girls.

As for not posting info, no one is saying not to post reviews. Detailed newbie posts are interesting and appreciated. Some logical heads just suggest that using some discretion on certain topics is, ahem, Kosher. The few months after BBBJ laws were instated, discretion didn't hurt anything. I don't see people posting specific names about girls who do AO outside of the Dietz board. Why don't some of you whine about that too?

Takedown
03-11-18, 23:04
The question was asked as to why not posting about BBBJ or BBFS (AO) would lead to those services being harder to find or more expensive if found.

This goes back to the basic phenomena that any kind of prohibition brings. During the alcohol prohibition in the US what happened? People didn't stop drinking. Booze was a bit harder to find. It became more expensive. It became the basis for all manner of criminality. The downside of prohibition was so bad that it overwhelmed the anticipated upside, and after a few years was abandoned.

It should be obvious that if X goes unreported, it becomes more difficult to find. The main point of posts on boards like this is to make services easier to find at a fair price. Those who will find it the most difficult will be those guys just starting out. And at one point we were all just guys starting out.

What some of those who insist reporting on BB services is a bad thing are really saying it's bad FOR THEM. (Or so they think.) The attitude is "I've got mine, and if sharing will endanger that, I'd rather not share. " This is not returning the favor of sharing info as it was shared with them at one time.

So self-censorship obviously makes BB services harder to find. No info is no info. But does it cause prices to go up? Yes, and for the same reason. Self-censorship ends up limiting things on the supply side, and when supply goes down and demand remains static, prices go up. It's basic economics, and you can see it in the reporting here. It's not the law causing girls to want to up-charge for BB services. It's the fact that thanks to things being pushed underground they think they can command higher prices.

And it's the guys trying to get everyone to self-censor who assist these would-be up-charging girls in getting away with it.

The more BB services are normalized by open reporting, the more they will be expected, the more they will be easy to find, the harder it will be for girls to charge extra, and the more ineffective this already impossible to enforce law will become. This is one area where perception really does become reality. If you want a reality where BB services are hard to find and more expensive, then go ahead and contribute to the perception that because of this mostly ineffectual law guys need to self-censor.No, self censorship does not OBVIOUSLY lead to higher prices or lower supply. And you fail to make that connection at any point in your diatribe. Using the word obviously does not automatically make it true.

Limiting info limits supply? The hell it does. What kind of economics do you subscribe to? Heck what kind of logic? Your censorship culture spilling into the clubs assumption is flawed. We might not post it here but no one is saying to not speak of it and expect it with the girls.

You skip so many dots to come to your conclusion. The culture here does not spill over to the club culture, there are too few posters in comparison to customers to make that happen. Not posting specific info on this board does not push it underground in the clubs. However the info posted here does.

Censorship lead to upselling? Most girls didn't withold the service on day 1 of the law. However most girls did upsell starting on day 1. Upselling therefore preceded "censorship. "

Ill ask again? If open discussion about certain topic is so great, why does no one name girls who provide AO? Why? Bueller? Ferris Bueller?

As for being selfish? Any poster can PM me about any girl and if I know, I'the gladly share any info that is not personal.

This is what I was thinking after reading your post:
https://youtu.be/LQCU36pkH7c

Kosher Kowboy
03-11-18, 23:53
It's a forum of discussion. International Sex guide, not FKK girls directory. You'll find plenty of info mixed in with a plethora of other conversation.

. Social dynamics do exist, and by design.

And just because you've never known a girl outside of a club doesn't mean it doesn't happen regularly. Whether seeing a girl outside of a club is a healthy activity is another story. I for one have no regrets. These girls have caused me no more grief than civilian girls.

As for not posting info, no one is saying not to post reviews. Detailed newbie posts are interesting and appreciated.

I don't see people posting specific names about girls who do AO outside of the Dietz board. Why don't some of you whine about that too?I agree, I should have clarified it is more than just reviews and yes an overall hobby discussion. I stand corrected. These social dynamics do exist for sure and and I am well aware of some of these ' outside the FKK relationships' and sounds like you have handled yourself well but not to sound like Debbie the Downer that can change on a dime, most go downhill and usually the guys get burned both on a financial and emotional level many spending months if not years in denial before the damage manifests often in anger which is why providers put up boundaries or in the case of girls in the FKK they will often cut a guy off their WhatsApp or social media or ban him from being seen again. Sounds like you have some good relationships going and I wish you the best and enjoy. When they work they are fun.

It is good you have no regrets. And I agree with your questioning if these outside the club relationships are healthy. I think the answer to that question can only truly be answered by a man trapped in one and that is not me. This is one reason I come to Germany to separate reality from fiction nor letting myself get to the point for where fiction becomes reality in a world that is purely fantasy. I am only human and myself have fucked up and been burned and I have no shame in saying so so I can understand why this goes on with some guys.

But you are right, the ISG should be much more than reviews and I do not skip posts or ever put anyone on ignore but I also am not afraid to speak my mind and I certainly think ' guys falling for providers / out of the club relationships' is a hobby topic and not unique to the ISG, you can add every American board you can think of to that list as this exact topic has been discussed in hundreds of threads in dozens of years on Lord knows how many boards many now defunct. I too prefer WG's compared to civies (less headache a few bucks they go away) and very true that newbie posts, reviews and participation are not just interesting and appreciated they are vital and needed for the continuation of the longevity of any hobby board and any informational value it may have. Boards have turnovers so newbies always needed and wanted. Sometimes these newbies have been playing this game albeit it outside of Germany longer than those who refer to them as newbies which IMHO adds to the mix of the cast of characters here.

As to Dietzenbach; AO is a known service at Dietz, it is no secret it goes on as it is no secret many girls whose name gets mentioned offer BBBJ in other clubs. Nothing seems to have come from that. I do not think posting one did AO with a Dietz girl would do a darn thing to her reputation. Why do guy's not complain that guys do not mention AO of girls outside of Dietzenbach?

For the exact same reason we do not on our own boards back home here, it can ruin a girls business and reputation (with guys and girls alike) well in Texas it would make her phone blow up but reality is it remains a mainstream taboo subject on all boards and perhaps no one whines about it as they understand to do so can harm a girl and I do not think any off us would possibly want this especially those who enjoy relationships with girls outside of the club. Certainly they can understand respecting a girl's reputation if they are the kind to also maintain friendships with them 'off the clock'.

Another reason guys do not mention girls who do AO in the main FKK clubs is that in every country and no way Germany is exempt there exist private mens' boards (invite only) where lists of AO girls or in the states BBFS girls are maintained outside of the public view.

I think the two above reasons well answers your question.

PayForIt
03-12-18, 00:11
Any chance the debate on reporting services could be moved to Lounge or General Info? It is most definitely not specific to Oase. Selfishly, as I have an Oase trip coming up, any chance of some reports on girls and services. I enjoyed the last batch! My two cents. Those reports (and hopefully more to follow) will assist in having some knowledge about certain girls and what to expect, or not.

Takedown
03-12-18, 01:55
. Why do guy's not complain that guys do not mention AO of girls outside of Dietzenbach?

For the exact same reason we do not on our own boards back home here, it can ruin a girls business and reputation (with guys and girls alike) well in Texas it would make her phone blow up but reality is it remains a mainstream taboo subject on all boards and perhaps no one whines about it as they understand to do so can harm a girl and I do not think any off us would possibly want this especially those who enjoy relationships with girls outside of the club. Certainly they can understand respecting a girl's reputation if they are the kind to also maintain friendships with them 'off the clock'.

Another reason guys do not mention girls who do AO in the main FKK clubs is that in every country and no way Germany is exempt there exist private mens' boards (invite only) where lists of AO girls or in the states BBFS girls are maintained outside of the public view.

I think the two above reasons well answers your question.Right, at this point BBBJ has the same legal status as AO and the first few months of the law, girls actually treated it as such, some to get more money and others facing the real possibility of getting let go by the club. See Mainhattan.

Like I've mentioned in previous posts, I think the sensitive time period regarding the issue is passing so now it's becoming a hypothetical argument.

But those posters accusing other posters who preferred discretion, even temporarily, as doing it for selfish reasons, GTFOH, your logic is weak.

Bobolino
03-12-18, 02:47
After a few years of banning this club, I returned to check about a month ago. And for 2 visits it was ok, a nice refreshment to Sharks. But this place is a hit and miss game, and this time I missed 3 times.

First was Shyarin ROM, quite little dark blond, small size. Rushed service with up-selling, in the end even asked for tip for her lousy service.

Second was Anika, good DT but mechanic and cold.

Third and worst was Emily Rom. A bit chubby black hair. Lousy BJ, bad service. After I handled her the 50 bill, she asked for extra 50 because of DATY. I said that I never pay extra for this and she should have told me in the room, if you want let's go to the reception. She turned away nervously. Avoid this girl.

This club is always surprising me with how much the service level may vary.

Kosher Kowboy
03-12-18, 12:05
Right, at this point BBBJ has the same legal status as AO and the first few months of the law, girls actually treated it as such, some to get more money and others facing the real possibility of getting let go by the club. See Mainhattan.

Like I've mentioned in previous posts, I think the sensitive time period regarding the issue is passing so now it's becoming a hypothetical argument.

But those posters accusing other posters who preferred discretion, even temporarily, as doing it for selfish reasons, GTFOH, your logic is weak.I think I would agree with you on the above especially about the Mainhatten girls as it really is a joke when they explain to you the new law and how CBJ is safer and against the law for us ( club rules for them) yet if you give them an extra 50 e suddenly CBJ is safe and they will break the rules/law. From what I noticed in Mainhatten the long time girls I think have an unspoken rule that they are entitled to upsell the BBBJ or include it at their discretion in private due to seniority but if a new girl does such they have violated the wishes of the tenured ones. For example I was talking to a new one and another long timer told her to stay away that I was a BBBJ guy. Another girl very friendly with the cartel enforcers asked me if I was waiting for a certain girl (they all know I see one in particular all the time) but since that girl has worked there since the Ice Ages all of them knew I was off to get BBBJ so she is exempt from cartel enforcement.

I am not in complete agreement on those who do it for selfish reasons so perhaps to clarify I will break selfish in to two categories. One is that of the guy feeling he found a diamond in the rough and in a time where service levels can be spotty and YMMV all over the place and many girls upelling perhaps it is wise to keep a secret fishing hole to ones self, we do it here all the time too when the waters of competition get Sharky. However the other part is the guy in love, afraid to share his lovers name or possibly constantly posting the name of his obsession and tidbits about her to brag is that of a guy who perhaps belongs on a dating site not in a who*rehouse.

I will simply choose to respectfully disagree with you (ultimately we are all there to have fun not fight) but more importantly your game plan works for you, my game plan works for me so we can all be winners on the same field.

Takedown
03-12-18, 12:28
One is that of the guy feeling he found a diamond in the rough and in a time where service levels can be spotty and YMMV all over the place and many girls upelling perhaps it is wise to keep a secret fishing hole to ones self, we do it here all the time too when the waters of competition get Sharky. However the other part is the guy in love, afraid to share his lovers name or possibly constantly posting the name of his obsession and tidbits about her to brag is that of a guy who perhaps belongs on a dating site not in a who*rehouse.I know, those Golem guys will always be around, "my precious" LOL. Hopefully they'll stay in the monority.

ExpatLover
03-12-18, 21:43
I think I would agree with you on the above especially about the Mainhatten girls as it really is a joke when they explain to you the new law and how CBJ is safer and against the law for us ( club rules for them) yet if you give them an extra 50 e suddenly CBJ is safe and they will break the rules/law. From what I noticed in Mainhatten the long time girls I think have an unspoken rule that they are entitled to upsell the BBBJ or include it at their discretion in private due to seniority but if a new girl does such they have violated the wishes of the tenured ones. For example I was talking to a new one and another long timer told her to stay away that I was a BBBJ guy. Another girl very friendly with the cartel enforcers asked me if I was waiting for a certain girl (they all know I see one in particular all the time) but since that girl has worked there since the Ice Ages all of them knew I was off to get BBBJ so she is exempt from cartel enforcement.

I am not in complete agreement on those who do it for selfish reasons so perhaps to clarify I will break selfish in to two categories. One is that of the guy feeling he found a diamond in the rough and in a time where service levels can be spotty and YMMV all over the place and many girls upelling perhaps it is wise to keep a secret fishing hole to ones self, we do it here all the time too when the waters of competition get Sharky. However the other part is the guy in love, afraid to share his lovers name or possibly constantly posting the name of his obsession and tidbits about her to brag is that of a guy who perhaps belongs on a dating site not in a who*rehouse.

I will simply choose to respectfully disagree with you (ultimately we are all there to have fun not fight) but more importantly your game plan works for you, my game plan works for me so we can all be winners on the same field.Mainhattan like Oase or Shark are all cheating clubs good for guys from the US or Canada or China but not for German mongers, so many better places but I know that you are a great lover of Dietz / Aldi which is also at least for me a no go club.

McAdonis
03-12-18, 23:25
I do not understand (well I actually do I have been there been done that and learned from my mistakes) why some of these guys are getting emotionally attached to these girls some to the point of obsession as is the case with one Princess who is not at Oase and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out who.
Apparently a third of mongers need there to be "intimacy":

http://www.medicaldaily.com/third-men-who-see-prostitutes-crave-emotional-intimacy-not-just-sex-241840

Rogue Nation
03-13-18, 00:01
Girls offering BBFS at a non AO-Club will (and did before the new law) get in trouble and thrown out of the club. Witnessed it a few times. So. Don't mention their names on an open board.

BadinSweet
03-13-18, 03:19
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.

Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!

Anna I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.

Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.

Lara wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.

A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.

Takedown
03-13-18, 03:48
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.

Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!

Anna I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.

Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.

Lara wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.

A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.I am quite jealous of your night, those are some of my favorite girls at Oase. Adele, Anna, and Carla all have such great personalities too. Did not know that Carla and Adele were roommates. It makes sense as they are both very friendly girls and know how to talk to Americans. Anna is one of the few girls in the industry who are truly sweet. Lara, once you get passed her upsell attempts, is the word "sex kitten" embodied.

I only visited Oase the last 2 days of my last trip. I will not make the same mistake again this trip!

DaWong949
03-13-18, 04:19
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.

Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!

Anna I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday..We must have similar taste. Those are my fav too. LOL. I was there last week too. I am the one who normally go with my regular, however, on one of odd night, I somehow went to room with a girl named Amanda, slim, pretty face. She was smiling to me.

When ever we have eye contact. At least 2-3 times during my stay that day. It was late night and I was about to call it quit, she came over and asked if we can go to room. I made rookie mistake without asking price and anything. I thought she knew I was not newbie, I would not get those newbie treatment. Totally wrong, As soon as the door shut, her smile is gone and she was doing all sort of upssell. It changed the whole mode, I told her that I did not want sex anymore. Went out and paid her. She knew I was not happy. Strange thing is on the very next day, she asked me if we should go to room again. I am sure she does not have short memory like goldfish. I guess she must think I am the sucker! Any way, I had great time at Oase on this trip. But from time to time, you will get one of those bad apple, I guess.

Rogue Nation
03-13-18, 09:17
Anna I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.

Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.

Lara wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.Anna is sweet, great service, no upsell.

Never tried Carla, she is too focussed on Asians. A shame the loss in weight did affect her boobs.

Lara does heavy upsell and not even for 100 EUR did she provide good service. YMMV.

Optimist
03-13-18, 11:59
Apparently a third of mongers need there to be "intimacy":That includes me on some occasions :). Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. When I have a Queen I am happy if every other guy keeps her busy. So maybe that is a third category I fall into: not fuck and forget, not obsessive illusions, but sharing a bit more than just sex.

Cheers.

BadinSweet
03-13-18, 13:36
DaWong949, you are not the only one with that experience with Amanda. I made the same mistake too, just like you, going by her look. I only read about her later and people have warned about her. It was probably one of the worst room I've had for a while. Some people said she is a little better now but I don't have the nerve to find out. I can just go with other girls and guarantee a great time.

Takedown
03-13-18, 14:33
That includes me on some occasions :). Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. When I have a Queen I am happy if every other guy keeps her busy. So maybe that is a third category I fall into: not fuck and forget, not obsessive illusions, but sharing a bit more than just sex.

Cheers.Intimacy can definitely make the sex better. Great sex for me comes in 2 forms; the best Oase girls, for me, generally provide great sex by being dirty, skillful, and sporty I. E. Lara. The best Sharks girls for me provided the intimate, "put-a-baby-in-me" sex without having to show too much skill or dirtiness but the experience was enhanced by intimacy. I. e. Evita.

Non commercial relationships can be had for sure although it gets complicated because even if there is true attachment involved from both parties, it eventually becomes difficult for the girl because she will wrestle with the fact that she is not getting paid by a known monger.

My belief that non commercial relationships with WGs can be had is supported by the fact that I’ve had/have non commercial friendships with them. I've never been to a room with ex Dora of Sharks but we've often spoken over drinks or a joint at the club. We are friends on Social media and she regularly messages me just to ask about life in general, get my input if she should try a new club, or my input on some vacation destinations.

By Golem guys I am specifically referring to the image of the Lord of the Rings creature caressing his ring, snapping at people who try to obtain it. You can have intimacy with a WG without this attitude. It does however take alot of self confidence, having to believe that you truly are providing something unique to the WG.

Optimist
03-13-18, 15:39
Takedown. Well said. Especially the last paragraph.

Cheers.

TankTank123
03-13-18, 16:16
Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Black women provide better of service than most Romanians in Oase.Teresa was quite a hit at World with continuous rooms last Saturday. I guess that is because there hasn't been a well-shaped slim black girl in World for quite some time. I chatted with her for a while and was on the verge of asking her for a session when one of my favorites appeared and I went with her instead. Looks like I missed out as I didn't get to see Teresa again the rest of that night.

Takedown
03-13-18, 16:31
Lara does heavy upsell and not even for 100 EUR did she provide good service. YMMV.Lara does upsell hard but I will confirm that 100 euro hours with great service can be had if you are willing to walk away. She has, in the past, eventually come around. Double finishes allowed in that hour, not that I was able to do so but she let me try! As for 50 euro halfs with all of the bells and whitsles, I'm not so sure.

Rogue Nation
03-13-18, 16:43
DaWong949, you are not the only one with that experience with Amanda. I made the same mistake too, just like you, going by her look. I only read about her later and people have warned about her. It was probably one of the worst room I've had for a while. Some people said she is a little better now but I don't have the nerve to find out. I can just go with other girls and guarantee a great time.Worst session ever at Oase, and that is in over 15 years.

DaWong949
03-13-18, 17:49
Lara does upsell hard but I will confirm that 100 euro hours with great service can be had if you are willing to walk away. She has, in the past, eventually come around. Double finishes allowed in that hour, not that I was able to do so but she let me try! As for 50 euro halfs with all of the bells and whitsles, I'm not so sure.Is Lara black hair with some red finish?

DaWong949
03-13-18, 17:57
DaWong949, you are not the only one with that experience with Amanda. I made the same mistake too, just like you, going by her look. I only read about her later and people have warned about her. It was probably one of the worst room I've had for a while. Some people said she is a little better now but I don't have the nerve to find out. I can just go with other girls and guarantee a great time.The crazy thing is she come back to me on the very next day and asking me to go room with her again. WTF.

I spent 3 days in Oase and 3 days in Sharks. For me, sharks has more eye candy on Wednesday (busy day due to e50 entrance). But Oase has Adele, Adina, Mikaela.

Pistons
03-13-18, 18:31
Lara does look far better with red hair than black / brown hair.

Takedown
03-13-18, 19:51
Is Lara black hair with some red finish?Last I saw her with red hair was last summer but maybe she went back to it this past winter.

BadinSweet
03-13-18, 19:55
Lara is blonde now, until she changes again.

DaWong949, don't worry, Amanda still approaches me and smile everytime I see her eventhough I have never taken her since.

DaWong949
03-13-18, 21:03
Lara is blonde now, until she changes again.

DaWong949, don't worry, Amanda still approaches me and smile everytime I see her eventhough I have never taken her since.I was there on March 4,9 and 10. I did not see Lara at all or I just simply missed her. My vision has been not that good after eye surgery last year.

I normally find some guys in the club to socialize in between session. This trip, I met three American Chinese (different days), all coming from same area I am from. It is funny that we travel half the world and meet at Oase. Those guys really know some cheap flights. $400 round trip.

VetMILFHunter
03-14-18, 13:49
I was there on March 4,9 and 10. I did not see Lara at all or I just simply missed her. My vision has been not that good after eye surgery last year.

I normally find some guys in the club to socialize in between session. This trip, I met three American Chinese (different days), all coming from same area I am from. It is funny that we travel half the world and meet at Oase. Those guys really know some cheap flights. $400 round trip.Might be a dumb question, you were the one to recommend Mercure hotel for me to stay. Do you know if I can pay with cash once I get there for my room?

HighRevver
03-14-18, 18:02
I was there on March 4,9 and 10. I did not see Lara at all or I just simply missed her. My vision has been not that good after eye surgery last year.

I normally find some guys in the club to socialize in between session. This trip, I met three American Chinese (different days), all coming from same area I am from. It is funny that we travel half the world and meet at Oase. Those guys really know some cheap flights. $400 round trip.I usually think I'm the only ABC there but seems like there are more of us around than I thought! Maybe I'll start to mingle after my sessions too hah.

DaWong949
03-14-18, 20:46
Might be a dumb question, you were the one to recommend Mercure hotel for me to stay. Do you know if I can pay with cash once I get there for my room?As long as they get paid. No matter is cash, CC or debit card.

DaWong949
03-14-18, 20:47
I usually think I'm the only ABC there but seems like there are more of us around than I thought! Maybe I'll start to mingle after my sessions too hah.There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.

Sirioja
03-14-18, 22:31
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty.

Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!

Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing.Yes Badin, Carla jumped to me very angry. Once more, after Madi World, Raïssa World, Megan Sharks, Kate, Sandi and Madeleine at GT, some guys need so much to tell my writings to girls, some even change my meaning to bullshit girls. About Carla, my meaning was not changed, I m not hypocrite, but she has new look now, compare to my room with her on June 2014 when I tried most of the beauties, but I selected Maria Platinum for only favorite on July 2014 , and Ina. Lat later. About Adele, I had really better to enjoy in room with her and I didn't need massage, for our 3 rooms, rather than telling her about other members. My most enjoyable was our second room in late night on our first day when she started to smile after my room with Vera 1 week ago. On this Thursday, she lost her smile, but she knows how I behave with her for our time. No problem, many other girls, Stephani, came because it was slow business, but I preferred to save my money, at this moment I didn't know yet, but I was so right, for my top Russian escort returning after 3 years. What a Russian woman now, volcano under ice. We will meet many times during her tour, before going to free ride.

So my bank can only thank this talkative little guy to help me to save money. Now some will know why I don't name anymore my top girls, naming them my Eves. Top of the top was a German guy at Living Room sending messages to my Eve who was sleeping in Brasov, to tell her my night with Daria when my Eve was away. Fortunately, most of my regular who know my behavior, trust me more than bullshits.

Really land of bullshits and jealousy.

DaWong949
03-14-18, 23:34
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.

Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!

Anna I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.

Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty..Adele gave good massage? That is new to me. I will ask her when I come next time.

McAdonis
03-15-18, 00:32
Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. This is an interesting paper on emotional labor and sex workers:

https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6351&context=etd

The paper describes the cultivation of "comfortable feeling" which may be roughly equivalent to what you describe as "getting on well". Meeting at WG's home. Meeting at client's home. Unpaid time spent dining, etc.

The paper also goes into counterfeit intimacy, which may be so convincing it could lead a monger to mistake a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. The paper distinguishes between two types of emotional labor (surface acting and deep acting): "Baby knew that in order to sustain regular customers like Philip. Men who wanted intimacy and the feeling of being special. She had to give them the illusion of mutuality. To that end, she gave Philip her pager number and her supposed real name and details about her outside life, to make it seem as if she had begun letting down her guard" (p. 126). A telling example of deep acting by a prostitute is the case of the prostitute who falls in love with a client.

Takedown
03-15-18, 01:30
Really land of bullshits and jealousy.And self delusion too!

Takedown
03-15-18, 06:21
There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.Might also be fun to reach outside of your comfort zone and mingle with Caucasians, Turkish, and few black guys. Just a suggestion.

Takedown
03-15-18, 06:23
This is an interesting paper on emotional labor and sex workers:

https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6351&context=etd

The paper describes the cultivation of "comfortable feeling" which may be roughly equivalent to what you describe as "getting on well". Meeting at WG's home. Meeting at client's home. Unpaid time spent dining, etc.

The paper also goes into counterfeit intimacy, which may be so convincing it could lead a monger to mistake a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. The paper distinguishes between two types of emotional labor (surface acting and deep acting): "Baby knew that in order to sustain regular customers like Philip. Men who wanted intimacy and the feeling of being special. She had to give them the illusion of mutuality. To that end, she gave Philip her pager number and her supposed real name and details about her outside life, to make it seem as if she had begun letting down her guard" (p. 126). A telling example of deep acting by a prostitute is the case of the prostitute who falls in love with a client.Message, be careful playing with fire? Constant self check is a must. And never give more than you're willing to give to a civilian girl.

HighRevver
03-15-18, 06:47
Might also be fun to reach outside of your comfort zone and mingle with Caucasians, Turkish, and few black guys. Just a suggestion.I don't think he meant it that way. I think the way I phrased my reply made his reply seem like he and I only were willing to mingle with fellow Asians. I actually gave a Middle Eastern guy a ride from Sharks to downtown last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and chatted up a couple of Americans too from LA. Without giving too much away in a public space, I come from an extremely diverse background where I literally didn't have a Caucasian friend until in my teens due to circumstances.

Anyways, let's not stray too far off of what we're all here to talk about, the land where we all get to pretend were Hank Moody We have enough tension as is back at home!

Westside2003
03-15-18, 15:54
Made a quick visit last Sunday. Good LU that improved more around 5. Just checked into the Mercure and heading back this evening and all day tomorrow. Although it can be overwhelming with the extra interest when it is slow, it's great not to have to wait on or chase the hottest ones.

DaWong949
03-15-18, 21:00
I don't think he meant it that way. I think the way I phrased my reply made his reply seem like he and I only were willing to mingle with fellow Asians. I actually gave a Middle Eastern guy a ride from Sharks to downtown last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and chatted up a couple of Americans too from LA. Without giving too much away in a public space, I come from an extremely diverse background where I literally didn't have a Caucasian friend until in my teens due to circumstances.

Anyways, let's not stray too far off of what we're all here to talk about, the land where we all get to pretend were Hank Moody We have enough tension as is back at home!Highrevver is right. I mingle with whoever I feel comfortable with when I am in the club no matter if they are Caucasian, black or Asian. On my very last trip. I even met and talked to our famous Siri.

We had nice chat from girls to sports, skiing. To be honest, the time between session can be boring if you don't have someone to talk to. I like to explore different culture, travel ideas. Different background people will give you totally different picture then you already have.

I met a old Iranian guy. He told me that he did not know FKK at all. His son got him a surprise party by flying him to Oase from Tiran. I sure like those kind of surprise party from my kids. But I just know that will be impossible bearing the culture we have.

You can find a lot of interesting people if you reach out.

ExpatLover
03-15-18, 21:54
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.

Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!

Anna I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.

Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.

Lara wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.

A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.Not a surprise for me, Oase and Shark have lost a lot of regular clients like me, I completely stopped to visit both clubs and as long the management will not take the control of the girls.

I will not return, I also blacklisted Palace and mainhatan and I hope that many guys are doing the same.

Neurosynth
03-16-18, 00:37
I don't have a lot of time for this anymore, but I'll respond to a couple things quickly.

It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.

But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board. There are always guys who think public discussion is bad. And they always make the boards worse.

Think of it this way. If Consumer Reports went out of business who would benefit the most? Certainly not consumers. And not the companies with the best products. It would be the companies with bad products who benefit.

So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? Those who once posted? Those who once read? FKK's with great girls who give great service? No. The ripoff places or places with poor services would benefit the most.

Those who want boards to not report on this or that are, in a sense, advocating the board *partially* go away. So when boards don't give the full picture, and don't report whether this or that is available, who benefits? Not us, that's for sure. And, I would argue, not the good clubs or the full-service providers.

This is what I meant when I said not reporting on AO will limit the supply of AO. I don't mean that in the strict economic sense. I just mean AO will be harder to find. That's why there are these boards in the first place, right? To make it easier to find what you want.

And what do you expect will happen when X is harder to find? It will be more expensive if and when you find it.

(I actually strongly support moving this out of the FKK Oase thread. Please continue if you must in the General thread.).

JasonWang
03-16-18, 00:56
I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?

Takedown
03-16-18, 01:09
Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.

Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.

Theory is like having a good plan but the details, in this case recent experience, will determine if it works out the way you imagine.

As the once great Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."


I don't have a lot of time for this anymore, but I'll respond to a couple things quickly.

It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.

But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board. There are always guys who think public discussion is bad. And they always make the boards worse.

Think of it this way. If Consumer Reports went out of business who would benefit the most? Certainly not consumers. And not the companies with the best products. It would be the companies with bad products who benefit.

So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? Those who once posted? Those who once read? FKK's with great girls who give great service? No. The ripoff places or places with poor services would benefit the most..

Takedown
03-16-18, 01:13
I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?During my last trip in February, I did not go with many regulars so most of my rooms were with girls for the first time. Exceptions were Daniella, Estephania, and Ingrid. I say that to explain that neither club had the safety net of relying on regulars.

My rooms with Anna, Daniella, Claudia, Adele, and Ariana at Oase were collectively superior to my rooms with Athena, Estephania, Helen, Lilly, and Ingrid at Sharks. I will add the caveat that the Sharks girls with the exception of Ingrid were all super young girls as opposed to the more experienced ones I chose at Oase.

Hard to tell you where the 9s are as I am reluctant to give a girl a 9. Only Nastia at Sharks has been a 9 for me.

I'd consider Claudia, Ariana, and Adele high 8s. Anna a high 7 and Daniella a solid 7. To me, all of the girls I chose at Sharks were low 8s. Helen may be a high 8. Ingrid perhaps a high 7 because of her weird shaped boobs.


To me, Oase was definitively better for service with top notch 1 hour rooms. At Sharks Helen and Ingrid gave great 1 hour service. Other Sharks girls often withheld real DFK and upsold too much.

But it can change month to month.

Westside2003
03-16-18, 02:47
Had a nice visit last night (Thursday) with plans for a longer Friday visit before heading back to Frankfurt for Mainhatten and a Sharks to wrap the visit. Once again, nowhere near as many punters than in my visits in previous years. Doesn't seem to have hurt the line up yet. Ratio was off the hook early on.

Two very good sessions.

Mina, Ro: Very pretty Blonde who looked very much like my global ATF (Melissa De Rouge in Prague). Initially sat down with Mina and her tall Lebanese friend but made it clear that I was not into a duo session. Very friendly a spent a fair amount of couch time getting warmed up. Took her for an hour for $100 and had a great, playful session with LFK, DATY and multiple positions. Not a spinner but definitely my type.

Larissa, Ru: Had to flee the bar area to get away from an insanely committed Czech girl that I had no intention of sessioning with. When I made it back, ran right into Larissa and decided immediately that she was who I wanted to finish the night with. Tall gorgeous, Russian blonde. I'm tall and she was taller than me in her heels. Slim but solidly built like a Playmate. Tanned and smooth with great naturals. Sat for a while to get to know her and she was charming. Kissing wasn't DFK, but quite good. Very appreciative of a long DATY session before a solid CBJ and missionary. Stayed a long time after in the room chatting, cuddling and kissing. 1 hour session.

I'm still trying to adjust to this new pricing world order. In both cases I mentioned I didn't care much about BBBJ since that seems to be their primary sell up pitch and I really don't care. So both did a CBJ but I am pretty sure they both took my comment to mean I wanted the cover. Probably would have got BBBJ if I had asked given I ended up going the hour.

Looking forward to a longer Friday visit.

ExpatLover
03-16-18, 05:14
Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.

Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.

Theory is like having a good plan but the details, in this case recent experience, will determine if it works out the way you imagine.

As the once great Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth..I don t believe any girl was ever kicked out from a club just after a report on any forum, everybody is aware that we can't trust what is written on internet.

Rogue Nation
03-16-18, 08:13
Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.

Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supplyThat is exactly what it is and why AO in clubs is not mentioned on public boards.


It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.

But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board.

So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? So you haven't been to Germany since the new law kicked in. Still you keep posting about how little effect it has and to ignore it and keep posting about BB openly.

Which board are you running? Is it covering German FKK clubs?

Nobody said prostitution discussion board should go away.

Sirioja
03-16-18, 08:21
I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?Thursday and Tuesday are not best casting days at Sharks, but nobody tell about real beauties at Sharks at the moment, but you can fuck 100 GND there, You have the quantity to enjoy.

At Oase, few pretty girls.

Sirioja
03-16-18, 09:06
There is a long blond curly hair, looking like Roxana older sister, at Oase. Who is she? Real woman look, even not so firm body.

Iceberg27
03-16-18, 17:00
Hi all,

I will be in Oase today at about 7 pm.

Anyone there we can meet up. Drop me a message.

Ciao.

Neurosynth
03-16-18, 20:39
Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.Often? As in the majority of the time? As in such significant numbers that the number of AO providers decreases by more than the amount that reviews lead customers to them?

In fact AO providers being fired due to board reports rarely happens. There are a handful of reports it's happened, and some of those reports are of the same incident (double reporting or more), and are often hearsay in nature.

Here is a better question regarding the new law and AO services. Where are the posts from guys saying "Before the new law I could find AO services pretty easily, but now I have trouble finding them"? We aren't seeing posts like that because, in fact, the new law (some 9 months later) has had little real effect.

Takedown
03-16-18, 20:47
Often? As in the majority of the time? As in such significant numbers that the number of AO providers decreases by more than the amount that reviews lead customers to them?

In fact AO providers being fired due to board reports rarely happens. There are a handful of reports it's happened, and some of those reports are of the same incident (double reporting or more), and are often hearsay in nature.

Here is a better question regarding the new law and AO services. Where are the posts from guys saying "Before the new law I could find AO services pretty easily, but now I have trouble finding them"? We aren't seeing posts like that because, in fact, the new law (some 9 months later) has had little real effect.Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.

Rogue Nation
03-16-18, 22:14
Often? As in the majority of the time? As in such significant numbers that the number of AO providers decreases by more than the amount that reviews lead customers to them?

In fact AO providers being fired due to board reports rarely happens. There are a handful of reports it's happened, and some of those reports are of the same incident (double reporting or more), and are often hearsay in nature."In fact" is an opening used by people who don't have any evidence or facts. How do you know it rarely happens? You haven't been to a club for a year. It did and does happen. Just the fact that it hasn't been reported here doesn't mean it did not happen.

ExpatLover
03-16-18, 23:17
Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.Sorry but you are misunderstanding, it is the interest of the management to have girls doing AO or BBBJ so many customers will come back and pay the entry fee. BBBJ is available like before the new law without any extra even I don't need to ask for it. Due to slow business easy to get many things for small money the l.

ExpatLover
03-16-18, 23:19
Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.I think that you are wrong AO and BBBJ is available like before and it is the interest of the management of the club to have girls doing it so the guys are coming back and paying the entry fee. In the last weeks business looks very slow and eastern is approaching quickly so the girls are ready to be very flexible to earn a lot before returning home in Roumania.

Sirioja
03-17-18, 01:08
And self delusion too!Only real facts worth for me: smiling welcome, my girls coming to me, no need to take ticket to wait, girls asking: when we see again? With the prettiest met weekly for months, rather than bullshits. When I'm with a pretty girl, time is too short when I enjoy her, I don't have time to tell about other guys, I prefer to taste her. I will wait Katea. Ru and Kity when they will come to me, I never force girls.

Takedown
03-17-18, 02:57
Only real facts worth for me: smiling welcome, my girls coming to me, no need to take ticket to wait, girls asking: when we see again? With the prettiest met weekly for months, rather than bullshits. When I'm with a pretty girl, time is too short when I enjoy her, I don't have time to tell about other guys, I prefer to taste her. I will wait Katea. Ru and Kity when they will come to me, I never force girls.Be proud when they fuck you for free, until then, it is just delusions of grandeur.

Sirioja
03-17-18, 07:48
Be proud when they fuck you for free, until then, it is just delusions of grandeur.Pretty girls with smiling welcome are just pleasure for eyes, then for brain, then waking up desire to be able to enjoy my game I pay for.

Taking ticket to wait, to be client number 11 , or seeing public exhibition, just kill my desire, and I don t pay just to empty my balls.

Each one own game. Even at Oase, after my room with Vera and her smiles after, she was not the only one smiling on next Saturday.

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03-17-18, 09:21
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Takedown
03-17-18, 10:11
Naughty boy, stop destroying the fantasy world he built stone by stone!Psychiatrists usually break down a patient's mental problems stone by stone&.

Sirioja
03-17-18, 10:37
Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.BBBJ stay standard and for free in Hessen and NRW, even in Hamburg with extra, about 30 . Many girls looking for CIM for extra money. I m not into CIM, but still my real foreigner weekly experience in Germany.

DFK stay also standard, just have to find good, fluent kisser girls. Most enjoyable is when the girl comes to kiss You all along the room and in missionary, eyes in eyes, then You have to control to stay as long as possible on the edge of pleasure, not cumming like a rabbit. Russian escort Elena Maria Sharapova was great for this yesterday. Some FKK girls are also great for this. I remember at Oase a girl eyes "going in clouds" while missionary, it was really enjoyable.

Best pleasure is in eyes and brain.

Optimist
03-17-18, 11:02
It is stupid to argue that AO will die if we don't report on it in terms of when and where. I was, by a good margin, the first person to report on an AO club, but did not say where it was. The club survived for years before anybody reported which club it was.

I am not saying we should not report it, just objecting to false unsubstantiated claims. I have seen firsthand several times girls thrown out of clubs like Oase due to allegations of AO.

AO, BBBJ, kissing, public sex, and other things are declining for reasons nothing to do with this Forum.

BigBuddy69
03-17-18, 11:26
AO, BBBJ, kissing, public sex, and other things are declining for reasons nothing to do with this Forum.Because of dickless boys with no expectations ;) Kind of guy who goes : "I want kissing, how much is it ?" or "even at 100 / 30 minutes, it's still cheaper than fucking a fat french hooker in the back of her truck".


Psychiatrists usually break down a patient's mental problems stone by stone😬.You didn't choose the easy way do you? Its going to be a VERY LONG road.
By the way, where do you find all your funny smileys ?

ShooBree
03-17-18, 11:34
There were guys who thought reporting BBBJ was a bad idea even before the new law. But I'm sure they had no problem using the information about BBBJ other guys posted.Well, as BBBJ used to be included there can't have been anyone who suggested not to report it. And no one had any use of others reporting regarding BBBJ as every girl did it in every session.

Takedown
03-17-18, 12:17
You didn't choose the easy way do you? Its going to be a VERY LONG road.
By the way, where do you find all your funny smileys ?It's just the iphone emoji keyboard. When Communicating with 20 something year olds, it's pretty much essential, LOL.

Sirioja
03-17-18, 14:26
Psychiatrists usually break down a patient's mental problems stone by stone😬.No, they just help to make your own work to find your own way. They don't make it, because everybody have to find own way, nobody can find your own way for you, except if you are a slave, or pimped.

Massimo Potente
03-17-18, 14:52
"In fact" is an opening used by people who don't have any evidence or facts. How do you know it rarely happens? You haven't been to a club for a year. It did and does happen. Just the fact that it hasn't been reported here doesn't mean it did not happen.I can tell you for sure that if you report it in the Vienna thread about girls in GT or FP who offer AO, then at some point those girls will have no choice but leave. Some girls read up on what's going on here on ISG and they will make use of the info for sure. Also the AO girls will never hear the end of it from the other girls. Kind of outcast situation guaranteed. And that is even thought it is totally legal to offer which ever service you like in any club in Austria.

Der Auslander
03-17-18, 16:42
I can tell you for sure that if you report it in the Vienna thread about girls in GT or FP who offer AO, then at some point those girls will have no choice but leave. Some girls read up on what's going on here on ISG and they will make use of the info for sure.This can be also true for all the bigger mega clubs in Germany and Austria (and some of the smaller clubs as well). Some working girls do read the reports on this Board, particularly some Romanian girls who's second language is very often English as opposed to German.

What is not factored into this conversation about whether it is right or wrong to report in the Forum on working girls who offer BBBJ as standard or who offer AO as standard or for extra cash is that quiet a few of the reports on this Board are actually fake! Or at least factually incorrect!! You cannot absolutely believe every reported club visit that is published on this Board. Not even reports that have been put in the Reports of Distinction thread by me!

The truth of the matter is that guys will embellish a club experience or a meeting with a working girl for the sake of making their report more entertaining. Guys will on seeing a recent line up list, write about a fictitious FKK or Sauna club visit where they met one or two of the girls from the recent line-up-list, when the fact of the matter is they live abroad and have not been to the FKK / Sauna club in the last twelve months. They possibly were with the reported working girls twelve months ago, if they were with them at all. Guys write reports about girls who they heard about from a mongering buddy. They were not actually with the girl themselves but they heard all the details from this other monger who was actually in the room with the working girl. Who knows if they were told the truth by their buddy or not! You cannot believe that every single report that is published in this forum is factually correct. You cannot absolutely believe that a particular working girl offers BBBJ or AO services just because you read it on this Board. You cannot bet your house on this information. At least not always.

I know all of the above because guys I have mongered with in FKK-Land and who have reported on this board have admitted it to me in the past. Now I have been travelling to FKK-Land for ten years or more and I have met many, many guys off this Board in this time and most who report on this board I am certain report honestly. The guys I regularly meet in Germany report accurately if they report at all. But not every single report on this Board is an honest report. You cannot believe absolutely everything that you read here. I believe this should always be remembered.

Rogue Nation
03-17-18, 18:40
And that is even thought it is totally legal to offer which ever service you like in any club in Austria.Was the same in Germany for 20 years. Still AO reports getting management's attention or getting caught in action meant that the girls had to go.

ExpatLover
03-17-18, 21:50
This can be also true for all the bigger mega clubs in Germany and Austria (and some of the smaller clubs as well). Some working girls do read the reports on this Board, particularly some Romanian girls who's second language is very often English as opposed to German.

What is not factored into this conversation about whether it is right or wrong to report in the Forum on working girls who offer BBBJ as standard or who offer AO as standard or for extra cash is that quiet a few of the reports on this Board are actually fake! Or at least factually incorrect!! You cannot absolutely believe every reported club visit that is published on this Board. Not even reports that have been put in the Reports of Distinction thread by me!

The truth of the matter is that guys will embellish a club experience or a meeting with a working girl for the sake of making their report more entertaining..Never forget that in the FKK world both girls and mongers are not telling the truth, are you telling your family what you have done in Germany, probably not, the same for the girls most of them are waiter in a restaurant.

Please don't make the things to theoretical, just go fuck the girls if you want but don't try to understand it is more or less impossible. The girls are there to get as much a.

PayForIt
03-18-18, 11:45
And so to the last night of my trip and a visit to Oase. Having spent the day in Frankfurt where it was bitterly cold in wind with an icy chill, I actually contemplated not going to Oase or any FKK at all. I'd spent the last two nights in Oceans and Sharks until the early hours, had completed some great rooms and hours but perhaps age was catching up on me, and the thought of a workout, followed by a long soak in a hot bath or jacuzzi and a nice meal in the hotel was actually very appealing. If I lived in Germany I'd have taken a break last night. But us tourists don't have the luxury of skipping valuable FKK time. I don't live in a country where these clubs exist at all and hey. It was my final night.

Took the train to Bad Homburg. Had read in this forum years ago some great advice that there are frequently very few taxis at Freidrichsdorf HBF. I'd once not believed it, took the train all the way to Freidrichsdorf only to find no taxis and ended up having to call Oase to send one to me. No such problem at Bad Homburg and 20 euros later I arrived. At that point there was no sign of the snow which was to follow whilst I was enjoying the club.

Immediately appreciated that the club was very busy. I arrived at 7 pm. There were only 4 locker keys available! Paid entry and was given key to locker 150. Nightmare. Right at the end of a row full of guys. I later changed to 052 under protest from the front desk. It was impossible most of the time to get to my locker! By 8 pm there were no locker keys left at all. I wondered what happens then? Do they turn guys away? Would be interested to know from more experienced regulars.

I'm the sort of punter who likes to ease my way into a club. I rarely have a room in the first hour. I take a beer, maybe some food, have a couple of walks around to take in the overall LU. Not so tonight. I enter the area at the top of the stairs above the jacuzzi and I cannot take my eyes off the tallest WG I've ever seen who is just stunning. Long flowing dark / red hair, high cheek bones, slim, bee cups, I go say Hi immediately to Kathryn / Katelyn / Katherine? Bulgarian. Some tattoos (not intrusive), big lips, amazing green eyes. With the exception of Melissa (Scandalo Malaga, Spanish club for those of you who also frequent Spain) this tall beauty is possibly the most striking woman I've seen in all my years of mongering. I'd reported no 9's or 10's in Oceans, a couple of 9's in Sharks the previous night but no 10. For me, this woman was a 10 from the moment I saw her. Melissa is facially the most attractive WG I've ever seen / sessioned with (she still works in Scandalo) but the overall impact of this tall stunner was instant and I was taking her to the room before I'd even got a drink. I didn't want to "miss out" if she was one of those girls who gets booked for hours on end.

Kathryn was dominant in the room. No DFK, confirmed it would be on offer for longer time (annoying). Ditto other services (. I explained that as it was my first room I'd want to repeat later and include other things. She said "I have no boundaries". This woman is VERY skilful and maintains eye contact 100% of the time. We are all used to having a girl in doggy and wanting to pound away unrestricted. This woman does the pounding. Her reverse cowgirl was so strong she had me close to completion inside 5 minutes and that really is not me. Managed to exert some influence to prevent an embarrassing and unwanted early finish. The temptation to stay longer was enormous but I wanted to get into the club. I'd not walked anywhere to even see the rest of the LU. However, Kathryn's downfall is that she is one of those EE girls who has a very cold nature. We did share some laughs but it was a real effort to get her to do so. During the remaining 8 hours+ I was in the club (left at 3. 30 am) I only saw her have a couple of other clients. Sure I was in rooms myself (see below) but she was often free in the main lounge area and I think her "chill effect" personality is the cause. She does not mean to be, nor is not, unfriendly. She just gives off a vibe of assertiveness and coldness which I think is offputting to many. Would I repeat. Most definitely.

So to the bar for a drink only to recall that unlike the sensible FOB system in Oceans and Sharks, this club (like Artemis in Berlin) still operates the stupid policy of having to buy tokens. And buy them from the highly unfriendly receptionist. What a nuisance. I don't like wearing robes. I wear the towel. The clubs are hot and I prefer not to feel shrouded. So every time I wanted a drink I have to go down those stairs, collect cash, back up to reception, buy a poker chip for 10, spend it at the bar. No pockets in a towel! That's my own problem but the system is just very unhelpful.

Next up I decide to session with the slim girl with wavy hair who has been dancing in the middle of the lounge. Turns out she is Soraya. Ro. Great fun-time lady. The complete antithesis of Kathryn. Off we go, many attempts at upsell but loved her body and in particular her very tight pussy. But I struggle to enjoy a woman who holds your dick to control penetration. Three times I gently asked her not to do this and I'd be slow / gentle to start. She was not to be persuaded and so, despite really liking her body, I call time after 30 minutes. As we go to the top of the stairs she says "It's 100 baby". I say it's not. We had standard service with nothing extra provided or requested and its 50. "For THAT service?" She remonstrates. She is furious. I didn't understand why, tried to ask her but she was not willing to discuss it and went off in a strop telling me not to ask to repeat! WIR? Not with the "holding" policy and crazy attitude.

Food was ok if nothing special. Not as good as Sharks for me. Went for a very bracing walk around the outside area in just the towel. It was -3 and I could see people looking at me thinking I was drunk or crazy. I wasn't drunk but sure it was a crazy thing to do but it sure woke me up.

Spent 20 minutes in conversation with three great guys from NYC. If you are reading this guys you did find ISG and I hope your final night tonight is good!

Room 3 was with the pretty Alisha. Blonde Ro. A little curvier than I'd have preferred but on this whole trip I didn't have any rooms with a girl with big breasts and in the absence of my favourite Elizabeth Hung. (she didn't appear all night) this girl was the right choice for me. Alisha was a lovely lady to spend time with, no holding your dick nonsense and was very happy to be fully impaled! We used one of the very large rooms at the end of the pool area near the relax area for guys. Limited it to 30 minutes again. I would definitely repeat.

Was very much deciding that my final room would be 2 hours with Kathryn despite the cold impression. I just found that whenever she walked past I was mesmerised. But started a conversation at the bar in the main lounge with blonde Ro. Rosa. Facially pretty, slightly sagging boobs but lovely bum / smile and she was clearly intelligent and I just had a feeling she would be good and the chemistry would be right. So it proved as we did 2 hours and a whole variety of things costing me a total of 350 e which was worth every cent. She was a pleasure to spend time with and I'd 100% repeat.

On the way to the lockers to get showered and leave Soraya approaches me and asks if I want to repeat? She must have by then been finding the pickings slim!

Kathryn smiles at me in a "you're full of shit. You said we'd have a long time in the room". This is entirely true. It was the intelligence and personality of Rosa which won the battle but I leave Germany with only one regret. That I didn't spend more time with Kathryn the Great.

Had a great night in Oase. I thought the overall LU was actually weaker than Sharks on the Friday. The lighting in Oase is much better than Oceans or Sharks which means you get to seek the girl / face / body much better which is a plus. The drinks tokens nonsense is a definite negative.

Left to find snow everywhere and a tricky cab back to central Frankfurt.

Until the next time.

Rogue Nation
03-18-18, 12:30
So every time I wanted a drink I have to go down those stairs, collect cash, back up to reception, buy a poker chip for 10, spend it at the bar. No pockets in a towel! That's my own problem but the system is just very unhelpful.Why don't you deposit your money in the small safes next to the bar?

The Cane
03-18-18, 13:43
I'm the sort of punter who likes to ease my way into a club. I rarely have a room in the first hour. I take a beer, maybe some food, have a couple of walks around to take in the overall LU. Not so tonight. I enter the area at the top of the stairs above the jacuzzi and I cannot take my eyes off the tallest WG I've ever seen who is just stunning. Long flowing dark / red hair, high cheek bones, slim, bee cups, I go say Hi immediately to Kathryn / Katelyn / Katherine? Bulgarian. Some tattoos (not intrusive), big lips, amazing green eyes. With the exception of Melissa (Scandalo Malaga, Spanish club for those of you who also frequent Spain) this tall beauty is possibly the most striking woman I've seen in all my years of mongering. I'd reported no 9's or 10's in Oceans, a couple of 9's in Sharks the previous night but no 10. For me, this woman was a 10 from the moment I saw her. Melissa is facially the most attractive WG I've ever seen / sessioned with (she still works in Scandalo) but the overall impact of this tall stunner was instant and I was taking her to the room before I'd even got a drink. I didn't want to "miss out" if she was one of those girls who gets booked for hours on end.

Kathryn was dominant in the room. No DFK, confirmed it would be on offer for longer time (annoying). Ditto other services (. I explained that as it was my first room I'd want to repeat later and include other things. She said "I have no boundaries". This woman is VERY skilful and maintains eye contact 100% of the time. We are all used to having a girl in doggy and wanting to pound away unrestricted. This woman does the pounding. Her reverse cowgirl was so strong she had me close to completion inside 5 minutes and that really is not me. Managed to exert some influence to prevent an embarrassing and unwanted early finish. The temptation to stay longer was enormous but I wanted to get into the club. I'd not walked anywhere to even see the rest of the LU. However, Kathryn's downfall is that she is one of those EE girls who has a very cold nature. We did share some laughs but it was a real effort to get her to do so. During the remaining 8 hours+ I was in the club (left at 3. 30 am) I only saw her have a couple of other clients. Sure I was in rooms myself (see below) but she was often free in the main lounge area and I think her "chill effect" personality is the cause. She does not mean to be, nor is not, unfriendly. She just gives off a vibe of assertiveness and coldness which I think is offputting to many. Would I repeat. Most definitely..Thanks for that nice report PayForIt. If you say this "Kathryn" is in the same league as "Melissa" at Scandalo in Spain, who we both have had the pleasure of, then a very attractive woman she must be indeed! And I'm glad you didn't let that "Soraya" take advantage of you with her bullshit. And then she had the nerve to ask for a repeat! I mean the behavior of some of these tutes is just despicable when it comes to trying to rip mongers off. You should have taken her ass to reception is what. But, you're too nice a guy for that. Dumb ass tutes with their short-term thinking. Anyway, thanks for a good report on one of my favorite FKK clubs!

Kosher Kowboy
03-18-18, 14:49
But us tourists don't have the luxury of skipping valuable FKK time. I don't live in a country where these clubs exist at all and hey. It was my final night.I agree, all my trips are for 6-9 days that I have booked thru September now and I do not want to skip days either and I hit burn out after 4-5 days (no longer a spring chicken sadly that can go 2-4 times a day for a week) so for now on will just book 4-5 day trips (even 3 full days is enough and we fly thru the night so time adjustments no issue at all) and miss no action and just increase the number of trips. I too live in a country where these clubs (and Adult Day Care Centers) do not exist so need to get maximum value / enjoyment out of my dollar which means no skipping valuable FKK time as you say in turn means shorter trips for me before returns become diminished. Short, sweet and to the point.

Thanks for the very detailed reports always enjoyed reading your literary works especially in Spain too in the South and your club visits to the Madrid area. Keep up the good, honest and detailed reporting!

Escape Artist
03-18-18, 17:22
I agree, all my trips are for 6-9 days that I have booked thru September now and I do not want to skip days either and I hit burn out after 4-5 days (no longer a spring chicken sadly that can go 2-4 times a day for a week) so for now on will just book 4-5 day trips (even 3 full days is enough and we fly thru the night so time adjustments no issue at all) and miss no action and just increase the number of trips. I too live in a country where these clubs (and Adult Day Care Centers) do not exist so need to get maximum value / enjoyment out of my dollar which means no skipping valuable FKK time as you say in turn means shorter trips for me before returns become diminished. Short, sweet and to the point.

Thanks for the very detailed reports always enjoyed reading your literary works especially in Spain too in the South and your club visits to the Madrid area. Keep up the good, honest and detailed reporting!I also make mongering trips that are over a week long. Like you, I struggle with making the most of my trip and want to go clubbing everyday but face burnout after 4 or 5 days. Instead of making more trips and increasing my travel overhead, I found value in taking the 2-3 day break. I often take excursions to Amsterdam or Eastern Europe because transcontinental transportation is so affordable. You can get to Eastern Europe via WizzAir and anywhere in Europe with Ryan. Air. When booked in advance these fairs are usually less than cab fair to the club. My recently booked a RyanAir flight from Koln to Venice for 16.95 Euro!

I find that a nice halftime allows me to have 2 fully energized five day trips for the low overhead of one transcontinental flight. Plus, it allows me to alter plans if I find that the line up is poor at certain clubs on the first half of my trip. My last two trips were done this way and the second halves were both better than the first.

PayForIt
03-18-18, 17:48
Why don't you deposit your money in the small safes next to the bar?Perfectly fair point and in this club obviously the thing to do. But I have enough trouble not losing the FOB that's attached to my wrist without losing another one! Fair point though and I'll give I a go next time. Cheers.

PayForIt
03-18-18, 17:55
If you say this "Kathryn" is in the same league as "Melissa" at Scandalo in Spain, who we both have had the pleasure of, then a very attractive woman she must be indeed! Thanks re the report. Now these two women are almost separate species. As you know, Melissa, facially is just 11/10. I've often wondered why she does this work. Yes sure its the $ but she could very easily model. I've asked her and she said she only now does 2 or 3 days, plus the odd regular (outside so she doesn't suffer burn out, is selective even on her work days about who she rooms with and spends a lot of cash on skincare, products etc. It shows. Her boob job is a good one but her ass could be fitter / smaller. I rate her body 9/10 but everything else 10+ (if that be possible).

Kathryn the Great is almost double Melissa's height! And most people's! Striking face / jawline / high cheeks. Very large green eyes and big hair. Melissa is stunning. Kathryn is imposing. Facially she isn't as pretty as Melissa. But boy does she grab your attention. I'm determined to return to sample the ice maiden again and work hard to get her to thaw!

Sirioja
03-18-18, 18:13
Thanks re the report. Now these two women are almost separate species. As you know, Melissa, facially is just 11/10. I've often wondered why she does this work. Yes sure its the $ but she could very easily model. I've asked her and she said she only now does 2 or 3 days, plus the odd regular (outside so she doesn't suffer burn out, is selective even on her work days about who she rooms with and spends a lot of cash on skincare, products etc. It shows. Her boob job is a good one but her ass could be fitter / smaller. I rate her body 9/10 but everything else 10+ (if that be possible).

Kathryn the Great is almost double Melissa's height! And most people's! Striking face / jawline / high cheeks. Very large green eyes and big hair. Melissa is stunning. Kathryn is imposing. Facially she isn't as pretty as Melissa. But boy does she grab your attention. I'm determined to return to sample the ice maiden again and work hard to get her to thaw!Is she model type, long chestnut hair, beautiful green eyes, long nose, Bulgarian? But no sensuality in bed for my room on 2017, 50 were enough for her, done but no need to repeat even she kissed a bit. At least she is honest and pretty, but that s not enough to dream. But possible to have 50 € room with her. When I enjoy, I never stay only 30 mn with a enjoyable girl.

Ortos
03-18-18, 19:59
I'm determined to return to sample the ice maiden again and work hard to get her to thaw!Talk to her about Global Warming, maybe? You know, just to break the ice...

Turgid
03-18-18, 20:07
................. But I struggle to enjoy a woman who holds your dick to control penetration. Three times I gently asked her not to do this and I'd be slow / gentle to start. She was not to be persuaded and so, despite really liking her body, I call time after 30 minutes. As we go to the top of the stairs she says "It's 100 baby". I say it's not. We had standard service with nothing extra provided or requested and its 50. "For THAT service?" She remonstrates. She is furious. I didn't understand why, tried to ask her but she was not willing to discuss it and went off in a strop telling me not to ask to repeat! WIR? Not with the "holding" policy and crazy attitude..........The absolute worst that could happen to me during FS is the girl holding on to my dick. In an environment where BBBJ and CIM are not upsold I would quickly resort to that. I find too many EE girls do that and since I refuse to give such a girl more than 50 E I will end the session unfullfilled like you did. Kudos to you especially for naming the provider.

Turgid
03-18-18, 20:19
Is she model type, long chestnut hair, beautiful green eyes, long nose, Bulgarian? But no sensuality in bed for my room on 2017, 50 were enough for her, done but no need to repeat even she kissed a bit. At least she is honest and pretty, but that s not enough to dream. But possible to have 50 room with her. When I enjoy, I never stay only 30 mn with a enjoyable girl.From the description Kathryn sounds like the girl who refused me a 50 E session so I passed. Perhaps I was too hasty and should have chatted with her a bit. She is the type of girl with whom I'd do a 100 E session but only after testing the waters with a 50 E session first.

ExpatLover
03-18-18, 22:22
From the description Kathryn sounds like the girl who refused me a 50 E session so I passed. Perhaps I was too hasty and should have chatted with her a bit. She is the type of girl with whom I'd do a 100 E session but only after testing the waters with a 50 E session first.Don't make the things too theoretical, if she doesnt want just go to fuck another prostitute in the club.

BarryManila
03-18-18, 22:39
By 8 pm there were no locker keys left at all. I wondered what happens then? Do they turn guys away? Would be interested to knowIf there are no more locker keys available, guys have to wait in a queue until guys are checking-out and leaving the club.

I was there also yesterday and I can confirm. Katherine from Bulgaria was looking great. Thanks for the report, PayFor it.

Iceberg27
03-18-18, 22:56
The place was full of girls. Girls to guys ratio was at least 5. I guess all punters was gone to World. I have taken Daniela from Spain and two other romanians. I got BBBJ and DFK without extra payment. Only Daniela asked for additional payment for DFK and BBBJ as expected and I included CIM to this price. And at the end I couldn't resist to come inside her. (with condom of course) . And she gave me some massage to compansate the price. Due to low number of men some girls were too aggressive. For example the fat black haired Greek girl asked me 5 times. I enjoyed the place. Oral sex in kino not exist anymore. Food was bad again. The lamb they gave was the worst I ever had. Again chicken and chicken.

ExpatLover
03-18-18, 23:12
The place was full of girls. Girls to guys ratio was at least 5. I guess all punters was gone to World. I have taken Daniela from Spain and two other romanians. I got BBBJ and DFK without extra payment. Only Daniela asked for additional payment for DFK and BBBJ as expected and I included CIM to this price. And at the end I couldn't resist to come inside her. (with condom of course) . And she gave me some massage to compansate the price. Due to low number of men some girls were too aggressive. For example the fat black haired Greek girl asked me 5 times. I enjoyed the place. Oral sex in kino not exist anymore. Food was bad again. The lamb they gave was the worst I ever had. Again chicken and chicken.Thanks for the report, without fair visitors the club is in a poor shape, like me many regular left, since 4 months I stopped to visit this club, Mauro the manager has to send a strong positive signal to us or we will never return. He knows what to do to get back the lost customers. But may be like palace and Mainhattan he just wants to target foreign visitors.