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The cheerleading for the FKK scene to fail is saddening.
Here's a toast to optimism and the good guys.Right. Why criticize the place where you felt like a heaven?
Right. Why criticize the place where you felt like a heaven?Constructive criticism might help to get the club back to be a heaven again (as it certainly was 5-6 years ago!
HammerTime96
07-10-21, 10:40
The cheerleading for the FKK scene to fail is saddening.
Here's a toast to optimism and the good guys.You're the one who has been cheerleading ridiculous measures like lockdowns, masks and social distancing, which has all but bankrupted the FKK clubs.
Speaking of lockdowns, Holland has already reimposed Covid19 measures, following a spike in "cases."
https://www.rt.com/news/528843-netherlands-reintroduces-covid-curbs-delta-rise/
Oh wait, it's from a Russian website, so it's probably "fake news. " Go ahead and ignore it. LOL!
Constructive criticism might help to get the club back to be a heaven again (as it certainly was 5-6 years ago!You should have seen it 12 years ago!
You should have seen it 12 years ago!I was told wow on 2008/2010 was World with its party, before Sharks started and was quite small on 2014 with around 40/50 girls but beauties.
You're the one who has been cheerleading ridiculous measures like lockdowns, masks and social distancing, which has all but bankrupted the FKK clubs.
Speaking of lockdowns, Holland has already reimposed Covid19 measures, following a spike in "cases."
https://www.rt.com/news/528843-netherlands-reintroduces-covid-curbs-delta-rise/
Oh wait, it's from a Russian website, so it's probably "fake news. " Go ahead and ignore it. LOL!Wohoo for FKKs being open again!
How did your visit to Oase go?
You should have seen it 12 years ago!I did and back then it was my favourite club. Went there several times a month because of the almost perfecy lineup (good looks AND good service). Those where the days.
I did and back then it was my favourite club. Went there several times a month because of the almost perfecy lineup (good looks AND good service). Those where the days.Those who will keep on getting good are those who are able to adapt on future. Some need rules, some adapt.
Constructive criticism might help to get the club back to be a heaven again (as it certainly was 5-6 years ago!Right, then criticize LOL! But sometimes I feel like many management of FKK do not give a toss about what clients think beside globe!
Any long time Oase patrons remember the woman who was a customer? She would change her clothes, don a robe and go on the prowl like everybody else. This was more than 10 years ago. Great times.
Any long time Oase patrons remember the woman who was a customer? She would change her clothes, don a robe and go on the prowl like everybody else. This was more than 10 years ago. Great times.Was she a fan of, or did she ever do public sex in the kino? As some guys do? That would have been some sight, LOL.
Was she a fan of, or did she ever do public sex in the kino? ....Unfortunately, she didn't, at least never saw that. Always wanted to ask her if she's bi.
Oase is 50 E every day now. No special days or discounts. Vax card was enough, no test. Sadly, no more bus from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof.
Food is a little worse than before, but not extremely so. I think they're lighter on the deserts nowadays, but that's fine. We all should be eating less sugar.
I found Oase to be less hectic and less hustling than Sharks. Fewer girls too. On the other hand, fewer freaks, fewer really fat ones like at Sharks, and fewer hustlers (or they may all be a bit like Adina, just dispassionate.).
Well, no, I think I might have met "Saudi" Luanna, or someone who looks like her -- and that's one girl who really rolled me.
Adina is probably the prettiest girl there, and indeed she is pretty. But I didn't find her very fun in the sack so I did not have a good. She's blond now. It suits her alabaster skin well.
There was another who appealed to me, who looked like the porn actress Kimmy Granger -- but a little more zaftig. Anyone know her and can review?
I was also curious about this solid blonde with a giant rack, On the lower part of the shin, just above the ankle, of one of her legs, she has a pretty big "88". Is that a white supremacist sign?
Lots of Oase girls seem to be shaped like the porn actress Lena Paul -- not exactly fat, but full. There are a lot of teeny sorts too. Few of the tall and slim supermodel variety. I miss Bulgarian Katrin! I didn't see her.
I met Maggie, who was friendly but unappealing. I also met Cataleya, who said she was Spanish but seemed really comfortable chatting in Romanian, and Carmen, who had a nice figure and face but a frightening amount of war paint on.
Why do these ladies put on the clown makeup? Objectively, it's unappealing, you wouldn't go out in public with a woman looking like that. She would look like Tammy Faye Baker. But oftentimes, I'm not completely turned off either.
Is there some kind of brain trick hidden in the makeup, like they exaggerate features that shortcut our brains into thinking they're desirable? Or is it to mask aging or their real faces?
As per the earlier discussion, also saw a woman there, with at least two male companions. She was older, and didn't have the body that younger ones do, but still quite attractive.
Can you elaborate on the girl with giant rack, is she natural, how does she look like, height, weight etc.
Oase is 50 E every day now. No special days or discounts. Vax card was enough, no test. Sadly, no more bus from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof.
Food is a little worse than before, but not extremely so. I think they're lighter on the deserts nowadays, but that's fine. We all should be eating less sugar.
I found Oase to be less hectic and less hustling than Sharks. Fewer girls too. On the other hand, fewer freaks, fewer really fat ones like at Sharks, and fewer hustlers (or they may all be a bit like Adina, just dispassionate.).
Well, no, I think I might have met "Saudi" Luanna, or someone who looks like her -- and that's one girl who really rolled me.
Adina is probably the prettiest girl there, and indeed she is pretty. But I didn't find her very fun in the sack so I did not have a good. She's blond now. It suits her alabaster skin well.
There was another who appealed to me, who looked like the porn actress Kimmy Granger -- but a little more zaftig. Anyone know her and can review?
I was also curious about this solid blonde with a giant rack, On the lower part of the shin, just above the ankle, of one of her legs, she has a pretty big "88". Is that a white supremacist sign?
Lots of Oase girls seem to be shaped like the porn actress Lena Paul -- not exactly fat, but full. There are a lot of teeny sorts too. Few of the tall and slim supermodel variety. I miss Bulgarian Katrin! I didn't see her.
I met Maggie, who was friendly but unappealing. I also met Cataleya, who said she was Spanish but seemed really comfortable chatting in Romanian, and Carmen, who had a nice figure and face but a frightening amount of war paint on.
Why do these ladies put on the clown makeup? Objectively, it's unappealing, you wouldn't go out in public with a woman looking like that. She would look like Tammy Faye Baker. But oftentimes, I'm not completely turned off either.
Is there some kind of brain trick hidden in the makeup, like they exaggerate features that shortcut our brains into thinking they're desirable? Or is it to mask aging or their real faces?
As per the earlier discussion, also saw a woman there, with at least two male companions. She was older, and didn't have the body that younger ones do, but still quite attractive.
Can you elaborate on the girl with giant rack, is she natural, how does she look like, height, weight etc.She was outside, so had big round sunglasses on, hair was up, rack is too large to be natural, but also too large to be manmade. Pretty thick in general, still attractive, blonde, taller than 5'7" maybe closer to 5'10".
Oase is 50 E every day now. No special days or discounts. Vax card was enough, no test. Sadly, no more bus from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof.
Food is a little worse than before, but not extremely so. I think they're lighter on the deserts nowadays, but that's fine. We all should be eating less sugar.
I found Oase to be less hectic and less hustling than Sharks. Fewer girls too. On the other hand, fewer freaks, fewer really fat ones like at Sharks, and fewer hustlers (or they may all be a bit like Adina, just dispassionate.).
Well, no, I think I might have met "Saudi" Luanna, or someone who looks like her -- and that's one girl who really rolled me.
Adina is probably the prettiest girl there, and indeed she is pretty. But I didn't find her very fun in the sack so I did not have a good. She's blond now. It suits her alabaster skin well..Is this Adina used to have burgundy hair and has been there since 2015?
Tvataham274
07-27-21, 19:55
I was also curious about this solid blonde with a giant rack, On the lower part of the shin, just above the ankle, of one of her legs, she has a pretty big "88". Is that a white supremacist sign?
I think it might stand for HH. And in the context of white supremacy should be obvious what it means. But in Germany, of all places, that is incredibly illegal.
Probably fake, thanks for the clarification.
She was outside, so had big round sunglasses on, hair was up, rack is too large to be natural, but also too large to be manmade. Pretty thick in general, still attractive, blonde, taller than 5'7" maybe closer to 5'10".
I think it might stand for HH. And in the context of white supremacy should be obvious what it means. But in Germany, of all places, that is incredibly illegal.Yes, that's what I was wondering, and it's not unusual for those types to be associated with this world. Good point about it being illegal but I think it would be pretty easily covered up.
Sadly, no more bus from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof.I'm so sad.
HammerTime96
07-28-21, 07:54
I think it might stand for HH. And in the context of white supremacy should be obvious what it means. But in Germany, of all places, that is incredibly illegal.No, a tattoo of "HH" and "88" is perhaps tasteless, but not illegal in Germany because this is code speak and could mean anything. The person in question might say some bullshit like "88 is my lucky number" or "HH are the initials of my first boyfriend" or whatever. That's the reason they have those tattoos because they are not illegal.
Even writing it out in full, provided it's used in the correct context (for example in a history book, or a documentary) would not be illegal. Writing down in full the real meaning of HH without any historic context however is illegal.
Is this Adina used to have burgundy hair and has been there since 2015?Not sure if this is the girl I have in mid but one girl with that description had really nice tits. Petite girl, cute face, but service below average.
Hello guys,
I would have liked some information because I could not find the information precisely here.
We are former clients and we will be coming from France.
One of us is not vaccinated.
So I would have liked to know if a PCR test or antigen test was sufficient to enter?
If so, how long (24/48 or 72 h)?
Is it possible to have a test at the entrance?
Thank you for all your information.
Lou.
Yep, Oase is terrible right now.
Maybe 30 girls on Wednesday night. Girls still push for 150 for 1 hour. Easily 2:1 guys. Front desk seems much more friendly. Big sign at the plexi glass that says vax or negative test. Always 50 e. Main room is now a new theme, all black with nightclub lights, red I think. Everything else looks the same as precovid with the then recently new lounge furniture in relax room and next to jacuzzi. I guess they are actually almost 2 years old now. Did not see dinner because I ate at the previous club. Breakfast was similar as before. No chicken wings is the only difference I noticed.
Pulled out an okay session with current Roxanna. She wanted 150 also. After coming back to her 3 times in 30 minutes, able to talk her to final agreement of 100 "until you come." That sounded perfect as I wanted a 1 hour, 1 finish session anyway. It ended up being about 45 min session. I could have stayed longer to push to full hour but there was no need. For some reason, I wasn't in a DFK mood so I can't attest to that service. Everything else was included for sure, no hassle after settling on initial, 100 for "until you cum."
Came back for a day visit only about 6-10 girls at 1300. No good optics at the moment. At least half of the girls are in their 30's at this moment. Cold morning, warming up. Cloudy day with some sun so the garden is okay.
Not sure if this is the girl I have in mid but one girl with that description had really nice tits. Petite girl, cute face, but service below average.I've sessioned a couple of times with her. Very soft skin and gorgeous face and body. Also does not upsell.
The problem as was mentioned is that she's very detached in the room. She will be quiet and looking away waiting for it to be over.
She looks however like a really nice person.
Not sure if this is the girl I have in mid but one girl with that description had really nice tits. Petite girl, cute face, but service below average.Yes. She does have very good tits. Pretty girl, used to be Maria Maybe?
Hello guys,
I would have liked some information because I could not find the information precisely here.
We are former clients and we will be coming from France.
One of us is not vaccinated.
So I would have liked to know if a PCR test or antigen test was sufficient to enter?
If so, how long (24/48 or 72 h)?
Is it possible to have a test at the entrance?
Thank you for all your information.
Lou.48 hours test is Ok. No fast test at Oase, but at Sharks.
Yes. She does have very good tits. Pretty girl, used to be Maria Maybe?Ex Marina became Adina, ex reddish hair, beautiful natural tits and beautiful skin, she seems sweet and quiet girl.
Yep, Oase is terrible right now.
Maybe 30 girls on Wednesday night. Girls still push for 150 for 1 hour. Easily 2:1 guys. Front desk seems much more friendly. Big sign at the plexi glass that says vax or negative test. Always 50 e. Main room is now a new theme, all black with nightclub lights, red I think. Everything else looks the same as precovid with the then recently new lounge furniture in relax room and next to jacuzzi. I guess they are actually almost 2 years old now. Did not see dinner because I ate at the previous club. Breakfast was similar as before. No chicken wings is the only difference I noticed.
Pulled out an okay session with current Roxanna. She wanted 150 also. After coming back to her 3 times in 30 minutes, able to talk her to final agreement of 100 "until you come." That sounded perfect as I wanted a 1 hour, 1 finish session anyway. It ended up being about 45 min session. I could have stayed longer to push to full hour but there was no need. For some reason, I wasn't in a DFK mood so I can't attest to that service. Everything else was included for sure, no hassle after settling on initial, 100 for "until you cum.Terrible, but you returned? Your full logic? Anyway thanks for your report. 100 without kissing is expensive for low level.
Definitely fast test at Oase. Desk told me directly, "5 euro, no problem. "
Definitely fast test at Oase. Desk told me directly, "5 euro, no problem. "Thanks for your answers guys. Yeah, apparently they do some quick entry tests. Do you know what type?
Last question: if we have done a test before, a PCR test or an antigen test does not make any difference to enter?
Thanks.
Terrible, but you returned? Your full logic? Anyway thanks for your report. 100 without kissing is expensive for low level.From the past, I noticed something in the way you review a club. You often say that a line up is good when you find one good girl. For me, when there is one girl that is good but 29 is terrible, I write that the line up is terrible even if I find the one beautiful girl.
From the past, I noticed something in the way you review a club. You often say that a line up is good when you find one good girl. For me, when there is one girl that is good but 29 is terrible, I write that the line up is terrible even if I find the one beautiful girl.Yes, when I find 1 beauty on my standards, then good casting for me. My meaning was you found bad but you returned? I didn't return since my visit on 1 July when I understood what would be business at Oase after covid, when discovered on this Friday a girl on my standard at Sharks, she never spoke about money, we stayed more than 1 hour for 100 with a natural beauty and really interesting in bed. Bad Esfefania didn't remain to fuck her own business at Oase, but move to pollute Sharks. Good point for fast tests at Oase.
Lucky Nuts
08-02-21, 03:31
If you like walking for exercise as I do it's a beautiful walk through the crop fields from the Friedrichsdorf train station to Oase. The walk takes a little more than one hour and has very nice foot paths all the way except about the last half mile or one km where it becomes a bit sketchy walking along the roadside. Still it's well worth it if you like to walk.
The S5 train from Frankfurt HBF to Friedrichsdorf can be found by going down two escalators from the main ground floor near platform 14. I suppose this lower area has a name but I don't know it.
As I reported here almost two years ago, Oase was my favorite club. Not anymore! While I had a nice day sunbathing and a very good bbq dinner the girls just aren't as good anymore. One of my favorites two years ago, Christie, gained enough covid kilos that I was not interested in talking with her. Luckily she appeared not to remember me. She and her sister were enjoying the pool like they were on vacation LOL. I thought that was cool though.
About 25 girls working and I saw only two that interested me and they happened to be friends and hanging together. Like most clubs I visited in late July many of the girls are just sitting around not busy.
So I sat next to the hottest one, Anastasia, to talk and get a feel if she would be as good as she looks . She was sweet as sweet can be. I asked all the normal questions (I am very direct and not shy) and was convinced that she'd be a good choice. I was wrong. We agreed on an hour deal including extras 150 E. Inside the room I went for a kiss and immediately knew I was in trouble. She made her lips so hard it was like kissing the wall. I then mentioned the time on my watch and that set her off. Told me that "one hour doesn't mean 60 minutes". I said I want to take it slow. She then asked to change the deal to 30 minutes including CIM for 100 E. By now I realized I made a mistake and it wouldn't be a good session no matter what so I agreed.
The BBBJ was decent as she tried to make me come quickly. I'm certain she would NOT have taken it in the mouth if I did come. Just more BS. Then I fucked her in 3 positions and she likes to stare. I know many guys like that eye contact but it doesn't work for me. I went for my favorite position to spoon fuck her on our sides from behind and she told me NO she doesn't do that position. Maybe because she can't stare at me LOL. I quit before 30 minutes feeling a defeated man and 100 E poorer. Worst session of my life probably. Avoid Anastasia!
Afterwards she was back on the floor talking to her friend the only other hottie in the club. I thought about taking the friend but decided "birds of a feather fly together". I would very likely be treated poorly and disappointed again. Lesson learned I decided to call it an early night and taxi'd back to the train station 12 E.
I wouldn't visit Oase right now but if you do visit remember to Avoid Anastasia!
You should have left before 30 mn and gave her 50 if no extra performed, no CIM. She couldn't complain on desk. No Mady silicon? No Evolette?
Hessen Bob
08-02-21, 04:39
So I sat next to the hottest one, Anastasia, to talk and get a feel if she would be as good as she looks . She was sweet as sweet can be. I asked all the normal questions (I am very direct and not shy) and was convinced that she'd be a good choice. I was wrong. We agreed on an hour deal including extras 150 E. Inside the room I went for a kiss and immediately knew I was in trouble. She made her lips so hard it was like kissing the wall. I then mentioned the time on my watch and that set her off. Told me that "one hour doesn't mean 60 minutes". I said I want to take it slow. She then asked to change the deal to 30 minutes including CIM for 100 E. By now I realized I made a mistake and it wouldn't be a good session no matter what so I agreed.There is much knowledge written about Anastasia and her bad behavior in local Germany FKK forums. She is well known. You must have read about her?
Also you never answered my question about your visit to FKK Sharks which you visited on Saturday 24-07-2021. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on this Saturday evening?
Please see some photos of Anastasia which are also on German forums so you and others will know what she looks like.
HammerTime96
08-02-21, 15:41
By now I realized I made a mistake and it wouldn't be a good session no matter what so I agreed.Good observation and instinct, but that's also the time when you walk out and take her to the reception if needed.
....So I sat next to the hottest one, Anastasia, to talk and get a feel if she would be as good as she looks . She was sweet as sweet can be. I asked all the normal questions (I am very direct and not shy) and was convinced that she'd be a good choice. I was wrong. We agreed on an hour deal including extras 150 E. Inside the room I went for a kiss and immediately knew I was in trouble. She made her lips so hard it was like kissing the wall. I then mentioned the time on my watch and that set her off. Told me that "one hour doesn't mean 60 minutes". I said I want to take it slow. She then asked to change the deal to 30 minutes including CIM for 100 E. By now I realized I made a mistake and it wouldn't be a good session no matter what so I agreed....Did you do DATY? When a girl is hot like her I like to do DATY.
Any long time Oase patrons remember the woman who was a customer? She would change her clothes, don a robe and go on the prowl like everybody else. This was more than 10 years ago. Great times.Indeed I do ahhh the good times.
Lucky Nuts
08-02-21, 19:36
Also you never answered my question about your visit to FKK Sharks which you visited on Saturday 24-07-2021. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on this Saturday evening?
LOL Bob are you thinking I'm in my parent's basement making up stories about traveling the world for sex? I haven't been back to the lounge thread since I posted my reports there. I'll catch up there when I'm done with my individual club reports. Trying to do one per day this week.
About Saturday at Sharks hmmmm. Well I went there most days the last half of my trip so it runs together. After enjoying steak and pork and chicken outside on the grill all week I think Saturday is the day the food moved inside. I was glad to see brocoli and cauliflauer for a change but it was cleaned out mid-evening when I finally went to eat and I had to settle for some small boiled potatoes. If I'm thinking of the right day there were three kinds of meats in gravy offered. None were of the sausage variety. I liked the turkey. As I finished my cheese cake dessert a new batch of brocoli and cauliflauer was brought out. So it was my final dessert LOL.
The only thing I remember "unusual" one night (I don't recall which night) is a blonde girl got up on the small dance stage and the crowd went wild LOL. She collected a few tips. Next a thicker brunette girl got on the stage and also did well with tips. It was nice to see some excitement in there. Like I say the girls are all sitting around bored and available.
Ohhh one other thing "unusual" if I'm remembering the right day only two of the lounge chairs next to the pool had cushions. All the others were without. My tanned ass was in one of the two comfortable ones LOL.
I'm not familiar with the wooden huts but I saw a lot of cabanas next to the swimmng pool area if that's what you mean.
If I've got my days confused you can just go on believing I'm writing fiction LOL. That's ok with me. Best regards!
There is much knowledge written about Anastasia and her bad behavior in local Germany FKK forums. She is well known. You must have read about her?
Also you never answered my question about your visit to FKK Sharks which you visited on Saturday 24-07-2021. Did anything unusual happen in Sharks on Saturday evening? Where now are the wooden huts that were at the back of the garden pre-Covid? What foods were served on this Saturday evening?
Please see some photos of Anastasia which are also on German forums so you and others will know what she looks like.Never saw her at Oase, is she new? I could go for her look if photos are like reality, when I don't care about what write Germans, we don't play same game.
Hessen Bob
08-02-21, 22:57
LOL Bob are you thinking I'm in my parent's basement making up stories about traveling the world for sex? There is a similar recent report about Anastasia on a German Forum. Perhaps just coincidence then. I hope you have a warm blanket as basements can be cold even in summer.
Lucky Nuts
08-03-21, 02:57
There is a similar recent report about Anastasia on a German Forum. Perhaps just coincidence then. I hope you have a warm blanket as basements can be cold even in summer.I posted my same exact same report on lust under my exact same username as ISG. Until I contribute there I need to wait a day or two to read the most recent posts.
How did I do on your test of Saturday's foods and "unusual" happening?
Lucky Nuts
08-03-21, 03:10
You should have left before 30 mn and gave her 50 if no extra performed, no CIM. She couldn't complain on desk. No Mady silicon? No Evolette?Yeah that idea shot thru my mind after that kiss the first minute in room. So it was 50 to forfeit or 100 to enjoy what I could. I chose the later which was probably the right choice because she did bbbj pretty good and I fucked her in three positions. But it was all done with a cold heart if you know what I mean. We were not getting along well.
I don't know those other girls you mentioned.
Never saw her at Oase, is she new? I could go for her look if photos are like reality, when I don't care about what write Germans, we don't play same game.I don't throw around the word "stunner" like some guys here but she is a 9 for me and yes that's a stunner. She is as good or better than her pics. And sweet as molasses until the door closes on your room. Resist the temptation and don't think she will be different for you. Believe me on this girl!
Lucky Nuts
08-03-21, 03:18
Did you do DATY? When a girl is hot like her I like to do DATY.No the mood was ruined early on. No way was I interested in pleasing her. But yes agree "when a girl is hot I like to do DATY". It's rare for me but I did one on this Frankfurt trip. Report to come sometime this week.
Lucky Nuts
08-03-21, 03:22
Please see some photos of Anastasia which are also on German forums so you and others will know what she looks like.Damn I hate that second picture with her piercing eyes. That's the stare she puts on you while you're fucking her.
Thanks for posting her pics.
Yeah that idea shot thru my mind after that kiss the first minute in room. So it was 50 to forfeit or 100 to enjoy what I could. I chose the later which was probably the right choice because she did bbbj pretty good and I fucked her in three positions. But it was all done with a cold heart if you know what I mean. We were not getting along well.
I don't know those other girls you mentioned.
I don't throw around the word "stunner" like some guys here but she is a 9 for me and yes that's a stunner. She is as good or better than her pics. And sweet as molasses until the door closes on your room. Resist the temptation and don't think she will be different for you. Believe me on this girl!I love beauties who are told not good by others. Interesting challenge to work. I like to get from my good job. If I don't succeed to get enjoyable, this is I was just not good enough to deserve. Exclusive worth more and more interesting for me, beauties are also more motivating for me. I'm not so interested by girls who are told good, doing everything, by everybody. But I never noticed her and in 1 July.
Damn I hate that second picture with her piercing eyes. That's the stare she puts on you while you're fucking her.
Thanks for posting her pics.Damn I would love for her to stare at me like that while I'm banging her as long as she is not preventing me from full thrust and throttle action.
ExpatLover
08-03-21, 18:49
Damn I would love for her to stare at me like that while I'm banging her as long as she is not preventing me from full thrust and throttle action.So easy she is a prostitute just put 50 or 100 on the table and you will be lucky.
Damn I would love for her to stare at me like that while I'm banging her as long as she is not preventing me from full thrust and throttle action.2nd that! LOL.
Lucky Nuts
08-04-21, 04:29
I love beauties who are told not good by others. Interesting challenge to work. I like to get from my good job. If I don't succeed to get enjoyable, this is I was just not good enough to deserve. Exclusive worth more and more interesting for me, beauties are also more motivating for me. I'm not so interested by girls who are told good, doing everything, by everybody. But I never noticed her and in 1 July.Good luck with that and please let us know how it goes. My money is on "disappointed". The date I saw her at Oase was between July 19 and 23 so it's recently.
Damn I would love for her to stare at me like that while I'm banging her as long as she is not preventing me from full thrust and throttle action.Yeah I know most guys would like that and mentioned that in my original post. I'm different than most that way. I like close eye contact in missionary but never like a girl bending her neck to watch me in doggie. But I love when they watch any position in the mirrors. I think it's the staring that makes me uncomfortable. If it was a few seconds at a time that's fine. I think she's staring saying "you should be coming now already".
To Lucky, or unlucky with sexy Anastasia? When Germans are not reference for me, even thanks for attractive photos posted, but at least your post woke up my interest, when I love so much beauties and to make them cum, I love to drink them. I don t know when I can go but I wish she is as sexy for real as photos, then I will give her my best. I only spend on beauties, when I see some here girls.
..... never like a girl bending her neck to watch me in doggie.......WHAT!!! We are complete opposites. I absolutely love that and try to encourage girls to do it. Its settled, I'm seeking out Anastasia when I return to Frankfurt. Whenever that may be.
If you like walking for exercise as I do it's a beautiful walk through the crop fields from the Friedrichsdorf train station to Oase. The walk takes a little more than one hour and has very nice foot paths all the way except about the last half mile or one km where it becomes a bit sketchy walking along the roadside. Still it's well worth it if you like to walk. I really like the walk to Oase too, but here's a tip: Go from Seulberg. It's closer and there are no sketchy parts!
WHAT!!! We are complete opposites. I absolutely love that and try to encourage girls to do it. Its settled, I'm seeking out Anastasia when I return to Frankfurt. Whenever that may be.I loved it too. Hope I will find this one early next month when I come.
I really like the walk to Oase too, but here's a tip: Go from Seulberg. It's closer and there are no sketchy parts!I walked from both stations to Oase multiple times. All good!
Lucky Nuts
08-05-21, 03:05
WHAT!!! We are complete opposites. I absolutely love that and try to encourage girls to do it. Its settled, I'm seeking out Anastasia when I return to Frankfurt. Whenever that may be.The last thing I wanted to do was help her get more business. Her service is terrible. Anyone that tries her will quickly learn that it cannot be improved regardless how well you treat her, imo. But yes she will bend her neck back and stare at you with those eyes asking "why you don't come yet" LOL. I really believe she doesn't allow spoon fucking because she cannot stare.
I really like the walk to Oase too, but here's a tip: Go from Seulberg. It's closer and there are no sketchy parts!Thanks for the tip. Next time! I hope it is also through crop fields. That was really the nicest part of the walk. I've never seen anything like that before.
To Lucky, or unlucky with sexy Anastasia? When Germans are not reference for me, even thanks for attractive photos posted, but at least your post woke up my interest, when I love so much beauties and to make them cum, I love to drink them. I don t know when I can go but I wish she is as sexy for real as photos, then I will give her my best. I only spend on beauties, when I see some here girls.Your confidence is admirable. I think you will find her different than the others. But if you spend half the time pleasuring her maybe she will be nicer to you. I'll be interested to hear.
I loved it too. Hope I will find this one early next month when I come.Really? Please tell me your joking. Did you guys miss the part that said "Avoid Anastasia"?
Who will find Anastasia key? To open her.
If you like walking for exercise as I do it's a beautiful walk through the crop fields from the Friedrichsdorf train station to Oase. The walk takes a little more than one hour and has very nice foot paths all the way except about the last half mile or one km where it becomes a bit sketchy walking along the roadside. Still it's well worth it if you like to walk.
The S5 train from Frankfurt HBF to Friedrichsdorf can be found by going down two escalators from the main ground floor near platform 14. I suppose this lower area has a name but I don't know it.
As I reported here almost two years ago, Oase was my favorite club. Not anymore! While I had a nice day sunbathing and a very good bbq dinner the girls just aren't as good anymore. One of my favorites two years ago, Christie, gained enough covid kilos that I was not interested in talking with her. Luckily she appeared not to remember me. She and her sister were enjoying the pool like they were on vacation LOL. I thought that was cool though.
About 25 girls working and I saw only two that interested me and they happened to be friends and hanging together. Like most clubs I visited in late July many of the girls are just sitting around not busy.I would have change to 30 min 50 euro and just fuck her doggy position hardcore, cum and go LOL!
I also had one bad session at Oase and that is the only bad session in FKK during my over 10 years in FKK, so Oase has something to do with some girls doing whatever they want! I did cum and the girl was a beauty though LOL! Other girls I went in Oase was just fine and licked my ass too LOL! So I call it even!
I really like the walk to Oase too, but here's a tip: Go from Seulberg. It's closer and there are no sketchy parts!I have always taken a taxi from the train station to Oase. I gather that the walk is a very lonely one. I usually have a lot of euros on me when I go to FKKs. Is the walk safe?
I have always taken a taxi from the train station to Oase. I gather that the walk is a very lonely one. I usually have a lot of euros on me when I go to FKKs. Is the walk safe?I'll stick to taking a taxi. Easy, quick, inexpensive, and safe. Desperate people find out that mongers loaded with cash are walking to Oase, and it could turn into a lucrative "business" for them.
ExpatLover
08-05-21, 17:02
I have always taken a taxi from the train station to Oase. I gather that the walk is a very lonely one. I usually have a lot of euros on me when I go to FKKs. Is the walk safe?Do you mean the risk to be attacked by tigers or lions, advice you to spend less time in FKK and discover the real life. Of course it is 100% safe. I am always surprised by those guys who are not afraid from MST or Covid but afraid to walk in Germany.
I have always taken a taxi from the train station to Oase. I gather that the walk is a very lonely one. I usually have a lot of euros on me when I go to FKKs. Is the walk safe?From Seulberg, you pass through a village, some farmland, some parks, and then you're at the club.
I'd say it's definitely more isolated than the walk from F'dorf, so there's fewer witnesses to ensure your safety, but you're not dealing with dodging traffic or being seen by opportunistic criminals either.
It's so isolated that it would be a good place to lie in wait, but on the other hand, it's so isolated that any criminal would probably lack for targets and stand out while waiting for one.
If you think like a criminal and you're looking for mongers who are walking to rob, places like Living Room, Sharks and Mainhattan would be better choices because they're isolated urban environments where you'd potentially have more targets and not look as weird just hanging around.
Those areas are full of warehouses with cars and roads, so you can jump in a car for a quick getaway. You're not doing that on the Seulberg-Oase route. It's almost all pedestrian traffic, the fastest thing there is a bicycle.
You're not ducking down some alleyway behind some warehouse to throw people off your trail -- between the suburban environment of Seulberg and the woods around Oase, it's a lot of clear wide-open fields.
I'll stick to taking a taxi. Easy, quick, inexpensive, and safe. Desperate people find out that mongers loaded with cash are walking to Oase, and it could turn into a lucrative "business" for them.Yeah, if you're there just for the tail, no sense in saving 10 E and wasting time on the walk. For me, the walk is actually a highlight, and I go to Oase more for the garden than the girls. The girls are definitely nice, but Sharks is a much better choice if you're concentrated on the girls.
ExpatLover
08-05-21, 17:41
I'll stick to taking a taxi. Easy, quick, inexpensive, and safe. Desperate people find out that mongers loaded with cash are walking to Oase, and it could turn into a lucrative "business" for them.Please stop, you are just not serious and really showing 0 knowledge of the German society.
Do you mean the risk to be attacked by tigers or lions, advice you to spend less time in FKK and discover the real life. Of course it is 100% safe. I am always surprised by those guys who are not afraid from MST or Covid but afraid to walk in Germany.If he had talked about walking to the club through the farmlands, you would have harangued about him not rustling up 10 Euros for a taxi, how great you are because you do have that 10 Euro, in fact not only you have those 10 Euros, you also have another 20 Euro, and then you would combine that harangue with another longish lecture about how you only enjoy the best sex in FKKs with stunners but you are not because you don't visit FKKs anymore because you are afraid of some STD but you are a very courageous man in general and you would conclude that with a generic condemnation of all members who post here.
I'll stick to taking a taxi. Easy, quick, inexpensive, and safe. Desperate people find out that mongers loaded with cash are walking to Oase, and it could turn into a lucrative "business" for them.With the taxi, its not getting to Oase that's the problem, its getting back to the airport or wherevre you are going. Sometimes they try to squeeze you or take you for a ride. I haven't been there in years, and maybe things have changed, but from what I remember, it was out in the burbs, almost rural. You can't just stand on the street and hail another cab. And you can't walk to the train station or some other bus stop.
With the taxi, its not getting to Oase that's the problem, its getting back to the airport or wherevre you are going. Sometimes they try to squeeze you or take you for a ride. I haven't been there in years, and maybe things have changed, but from what I remember, it was out in the burbs, almost rural. You can't just stand on the street and hail another cab. And you can't walk to the train station or some other bus stop.All correct. But there is UBER in Germany. So no problem to just login to the app and get one. You know the price in advance then to return.
All correct. But there is UBER in Germany. So no problem to just login to the app and get one. You know the price in advance then to return.I thought Uber is not allowed in Germany, I had to use mytaxi (now called Freenow) app to get taxi in 2019. If Uber is working in Germany, then it will be great.
With the taxi, its not getting to Oase that's the problem, its getting back to the airport or wherevre you are going. Sometimes they try to squeeze you or take you for a ride. I haven't been there in years, and maybe things have changed, but from what I remember, it was out in the burbs, almost rural. You can't just stand on the street and hail another cab. And you can't walk to the train station or some other bus stop.It's been awhile since I've taken an Oase taxi, but I've never really had a problem. They always use the same guys, it's a small town, and Germans are generally trustworthy.
There's this one old guy that seems to run a mild scam though. He doesn't speak English, but he'll tell you in German anyway, something something catastrof when you ask to be taken to the S-Bahn. I think he was implying there was a catastrophe in the system and he should drive me into the city.
The first time he did this, I said, let's check out the station anyway. There was no catastrof. But every time I'd get in the taxi, he'd tell me the same thing. I don't know, maybe he was saying "it would be a catastrophe if you didn't let me drive you into the city!" I just found it funny.
I thought Uber is not allowed in Germany, I had to use mytaxi (now called Freenow) app to get taxi in 2019. If Uber is working in Germany, then it will be great.It works. But for whatever ever German-regulation-union related reason, the prices are nearly the same as a taxi. Also, in Frankfurt, the number of cars are low so prices are highly. In Cologne, you will have more available cars and prices are generally lower for similar distances.
JohnNovice
08-06-21, 11:03
I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?
From Seulberg, you pass through a village, some farmland, some parks, and then you're at the club.
I'd say it's definitely more isolated than the walk from F'dorf, so there's fewer witnesses to ensure your safety, but you're not dealing with dodging traffic or being seen by opportunistic criminals either.
It's so isolated that it would be a good place to lie in wait, but on the other hand, it's so isolated that any criminal would probably lack for targets and stand out while waiting for one.
If you think like a criminal and you're looking for mongers who are walking to rob, places like Living Room, Sharks and Mainhattan would be better choices because they're isolated urban environments where you'd potentially have more targets and not look as weird just hanging around.
Those areas are full of warehouses with cars and roads, so you can jump in a car for a quick getaway. You're not doing that on the Seulberg-Oase route. It's almost all pedestrian traffic, the fastest thing there is a bicycle.
You're not ducking down some alleyway behind some warehouse to throw people off your trail -- between the suburban environment of Seulberg and the woods around Oase, it's a lot of clear wide-open fields.On my very first visit to Sharks many years ago I took the train to Darmstadt Nord and decided to walk to the club. I somehow mixed up the direction and took a wrong turn. I ended up walking and walking. Back then I did not use cell phone abroad. To make matters worse it was a public holiday with no one walking to ask directions. The only thing I possibly could have done was to go up to a residence knock on the door and ask for directions to Sharks, LOL. I walked around for hours which included going back to the train station and waiting alone for a train, for over an hour, which never arrived. I did eventually find the club thanks to coming across a Sharks sign directing to the club. I had loads of cash with me but never felt unsafe. I would feel uneasy walking through a field though.
Regarding taking a taxi to the train station from Oase. I know that taxi drivers have families to feed and need to make a viable living but I hate to be scammed. It is very rare that I have an altercation with a taxi driver but I did have one once on a journey back to the station from Oase. I refused to pay him what he requested. He tried to get other drivers involved and I stated my case to them but they remained non committal. In the end I paid him the amount I had always given drivers for that route. Fortunately, the Oase shuttle was instituted just around that time. It has nothing to do with the money itself but about not having somebody think that he has taken advantage of me.
ExpatLover
08-06-21, 17:18
On my very first visit to Sharks many years ago I took the train to Darmstadt Nord and decided to walk to the club. I somehow mixed up the direction and took a wrong turn. I ended up walking and walking. Back then I did not use cell phone abroad. To make matters worse it was a public holiday with no one walking to ask directions. The only thing I possibly could have done was to go up to a residence knock on the door and ask for directions to Sharks, LOL. I walked around for hours which included going back to the train station and waiting alone for a train, for over an hour, which never arrived. I did eventually find the club thanks to coming across a Sharks sign directing to the club. I had loads of cash with me but never felt unsafe. I would feel uneasy walking through a field though.
Regarding taking a taxi to the train station from Oase. I know that taxi drivers have families to feed and need to make a viable living but I hate to be scammed. It is very rare that I have an altercation with a taxi driver but I did have one once on a journey back to the station from Oase. I refused to pay him what he requested. He tried to get other drivers involved and I stated my case to them but they remained non committal. In the end I paid him the amount I had always given drivers for that route. Fortunately, the Oase shuttle was instituted just around that time. It has nothing to do with the money itself but about not having somebody think that he has taken advantage of me.Those driver are usually from India or Sri Lanka, they have a pricelist (it is compulsory) but they will not show it if you don t speak German.
I'll stick to taking a taxi. Easy, quick, inexpensive, and safe. Desperate people find out that mongers loaded with cash are walking to Oase, and it could turn into a lucrative "business" for them.Yes, in Oase or in any FKK, I heard that " no money! No honey! " LOL!
ExpatLover
08-07-21, 06:32
I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?Why are you so afraid about giving your data, if there is a police raid they will take everything. Are you another married guy fucking prostitutes?
JohnNovice
08-07-21, 23:26
Thank you for giving me that input. But I know the police chief Would you now answer the rest of my questions.
I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?No ID check when showing negative test, at least for me, but girl on desk knows me. A real blond beauty, on day, at lounge bar. Oase is a very beautiful club, with a beautiful swimming pool, beautiful garden, big jacuzzi, I even ate good tasty meat, but worth more to relax and recover than for girls now there, even still Marina / Alina now fake blond when she was prettier light brown, and couldn't notice Anastasia on this Thursday evening, when used to be one of the best casting day. Almost no more girls at 2 am when no business, but only few Balkanians. Closing club at 3. 30 am rather than 5 am before. I was asked when leaving and answered real fall for girls level and 0 room for me, guy seemed sad from my answer, but just have to look at so slow, pathetic business. Really sad but real fact. Good time with moody yellow little tiger is over. Where is Ina little sister?
Tvataham274
08-08-21, 01:47
Thank you for giving me that input. But I know the police chief Would you now answer the rest of my questions.What do you have to worry about? Unless you're an international criminal there is nothing wrong. It is for contact tracing. If someone comes down with covid it is for them to let you know. Save a life and don't spread the virus. What does knowing the police chief have to do with anything?
Lucky Nuts
08-08-21, 02:02
I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?I wouldn't let the contact info requirement deter you from visiting. At Sharks you can write any name and phone number you want on the clipboard. I think (but not positive) at Oase it was the same. Write whatever you want. Finca in Dierdorf seemed a little more organized and official about things but I'm sure you could fake it if you want. Or just don't enter if they want real info.
Plenty of girls sitting around available at all the clubs. They are asking higher prices so there is less demand.
What do you have to worry about? Unless you're an international criminal there is nothing wrong. It is for contact tracing. If someone comes down with covid it is for them to let you know. Save a life and don't spread the virus. What does knowing the police chief have to do with anything?It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).
So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!
JohnNovice
08-08-21, 09:12
It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).
So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!Thank you LuckyNuts for answering a simple question and not getting in to why and why nots But I can post you a lot of privacy issues on data (volumes) but here is one (even metadata can do wonders)!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2021/07/20/bishop-misconduct-resign-burrill/
Maybe I am an international criminal with a few wives!
It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).
So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!So many Globe visits and elsewhere in Switzerland, Germany, Austria, NL when YY and Spain, and was never blackmailed by other than a obsessed jealous French follower, not my obsessed French follower here, but never by any brothel, nor any girl when many have my phone. Guys are the worst for me in this business. Clubs just follow rules to remain open.
Tvataham274
08-08-21, 14:10
It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).
So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!If you are mongering, internationally or not, and are concerned about a wife / SO / family finding out, you shouldn't be mongering. Even local, unless you aren't covering your tracks with a burner phone number, it will eventually come back to you.
Even before I got into the scene it was a no brainer to use a burner cell phone.
Every time I've had to write down a name and contact, I always write Bob Joe and give them my burner number, which is just under WIRELESS CALLER. So they can contact me if something happens, but they can't do much else.
If you are mongering, internationally or not, and are concerned about a wife / SO / family finding out, you shouldn't be mongering. Even local, unless you aren't covering your tracks with a burner phone number, it will eventually come back to you.
Even before I got into the scene it was a no brainer to use a burner cell phone.
Every time I've had to write down a name and contact, I always write Bob Joe and give them my burner number, which is just under WIRELESS CALLER. So they can contact me if something happens, but they can't do much else.Yep, all the clubs even have video cameras all around. If you're afraid of extortion, there's already a vulnerability there.
If you are mongering, internationally or not, and are concerned about a wife / SO / family finding out, you shouldn't be mongering. Even local, unless you aren't covering your tracks with a burner phone number, it will eventually come back to you.
Even before I got into the scene it was a no brainer to use a burner cell phone.
Every time I've had to write down a name and contact, I always write Bob Joe and give them my burner number, which is just under WIRELESS CALLER. So they can contact me if something happens, but they can't do much else.Indeed, that's the way to do it. So as long as the club do NOT check and register your ID (with real name and address) all will be ok. But that is currently the problem: several clubs DO register this to comply with C19 rules!
Yep, all the clubs even have video cameras all around. If you're afraid of extortion, there's already a vulnerability there.For covid vetting to make sense, vaccine passes get checked against your ID and so should antigenic tests, otherwise you could borrow anyone's covid certificate to get in. Why would they go to the trouble of checking your address? As to keeping a record for more than a few days, I'm sure it is very illegal (Datenschutz = data protection, big thing in Germany).
I don't see any business in Germany carrying out extortion on the basis of something that is 100% legal.
Lucky Nuts
08-09-21, 15:53
For covid vetting to make sense, vaccine passes get checked against your ID and so should antigenic tests, otherwise you could borrow anyone's covid certificate to get in. Why would they go to the trouble of checking your address? As to keeping a record for more than a few days, I'm sure it is very illegal (Datenschutz = data protection, big thing in Germany).
I don't see any business in Germany carrying out extortion on the basis of something that is 100% legal.Correct that upon entry you need to provide ID that matches your proof of vaccination or negative test.
Just to be clear "the clipboard" for contact tracing is a separate step in the check-in process that doesn't require ID.
Correct that upon entry you need to provide ID that matches your proof of vaccination or negative test.
Just to be clear "the clipboard" for contact tracing is a separate step in the check-in process that doesn't require ID.In practice, they don't even check your ID. I have my vax card inserted into the back of my passport protector. I just show them the card and most of the time they never even asked to open my passport to the identification page. The only time was on the 3rd visit at Sharks.
I've visited Sharks and Oase several times before but last time I made the trip was in March 2020 just before the clubs shut down.
Is anyone else planning to be there this weekend or any advice of who to go for / avoid?
I've read the reports of upselling but if I don't see anyone I want to go with I'm happy to sun bathe in the gardens / relax in the jacuzzis and piss around chatting to the girls. The weather out there is high 20's so should be an awesome weekend.
For me would have to be Aida, killer body with that tattoo going up the side of her leg all the way to her hip. I'd return to Oase (or any club) just to see her again.
ExpatLover
08-11-21, 20:07
For me would have to be Aida, killer body with that tattoo going up the side of her leg all the way to her hip. I'd return to Oase (or any club) just to see her again.Very good idea, and tell the boss Mario or something like that, that I keep my promise when I told him in 2016 or 17 (I don't remember) when even he called me to give another try to Oase, that I will never put my feet again in his FKK.
For me would have to be Aida, killer body with that tattoo going up the side of her leg all the way to her hip. I'd return to Oase (or any club) just to see her again.My Oase favorite of all time would have to be blue-eyed, blonde Steffi. She was Russian, but grew up in Germany. And man could that girl take a cornholing! She was a mainstay when I first started going to Oase. Then one day, she just disappeared. So goes the way of the FKK scene. Sigh! The girls disappear, only to be replaced by others. And the mongers remain.
My Oase favorite of all time would have to be blue-eyed, blonde Steffi. She was Russian, but grew up in Germany. And man could that girl take a cornholing! She was a mainstay when I first started going to Oase. Then one day, she just disappeared. So goes the way of the FKK scene. Sigh! The girls disappear, only to be replaced by others. And the mongers remain.Haha. If the girls had stayed as long as the mongers, those very same mongers would not be taking them to the room. I don't know this Steffi, or perhaps I did but I am terrible w / names and even faces, but I wonder if she is a girl from 10 years ago then you would still take her. Assume for the sake of argument that her skills and attitude have not diminished, just her looks and body have aged at the rate of FKK WGs.
Let's face it, we are mongers because one person does not satisfy us no matter how good she is. Even if we find a perfect girl in FKK, we still go to the room with 10 others. I will plead guilty as charged to being a scumbag myself in this regard, it is what it is.
MacAdonis keeps talking about hardcore mongers. Perhaps he spends a lot more time in these clubs and knows the demographics more or perhaps he is a keen students and observes things while I am driven to madness by lust and don't pay attention; is it true a certain percent of FKK guests are frequent regulars and the rest come once in a year (or 5 years)? I would have thought it would be more of a bell curve model.
ExpatLover
08-12-21, 05:03
My Oase favorite of all time would have to be blue-eyed, blonde Steffi. She was Russian, but grew up in Germany. And man could that girl take a cornholing! She was a mainstay when I first started going to Oase. Then one day, she just disappeared. So goes the way of the FKK scene. Sigh! The girls disappear, only to be replaced by others. And the mongers remain.Often the girls found a sugar daddy who will take care of them. So many rich guys in Germany, for them to pay 3000 euro every months is nothing, they purchase a apartment for the girl and so both are happy.
My Oase favorite of all time would have to be blue-eyed, blonde Steffi. She was Russian, but grew up in Germany. And man could that girl take a cornholing! She was a mainstay when I first started going to Oase. Then one day, she just disappeared. So goes the way of the FKK scene. Sigh! The girls disappear, only to be replaced by others. And the mongers remain.All my Oase favorites are pre-2012. My all time favorite in terms of looks was Romanian Sarah who was a goddess who lasted no more than 2 days in the FKK. In terms of performance no one could beat Swiss Michelle who could put Brazilian providers to shame. I loved how her breasts bounced when she walked. Romanian Simona comes up for honorable mention.
All my Oase favorites are pre-2012. My all time favorite in terms of looks was Romanian Sarah who was a goddess who lasted no more than 2 days in the FKK. In terms of performance no one could beat Swiss Michelle who could put Brazilian providers to shame. I loved how her breasts bounced when she walked. Romanian Simona comes up for honorable mention.Well it is 2021 now dear LOL!
Often the girls found a sugar daddy who will take care of them. So many rich guys in Germany, for them to pay 3000 euro every months is nothing, they purchase a apartment for the girl and so both are happy.Yes, sugar daddy with sugar went into his brain LOL! It is arbitrage, he got her for 500 euro per hour and counting, but I got her for 50 euro per 30 min, I definitely paid attention in math class better LOL!
Yes, sugar daddy with sugar went into his brain LOL! It is arbitrage, he got her for 500 euro per hour and counting, but I got her for 50 euro per 30 min, I definitely paid attention in math class better LOL!There is no arbitrage, and if there is then it is in favor of sugardaddy sites; I have used SA quite a bit in EU and the per hour allowance comes to 100 or sometimes less; these days in FKKs, you are getting lousy service for 100, if at all. The only advantage FKKs have is the ambience, the large easy selection.
It is arbitrage, he got her for 500 euro per hour and counting, but I got her for 50 euro per 30 min, I definitely paid attention in math class better LOL!Yes and some Albanian / Romanian fish is getting paid 500 - 1000 a day to driver her to work and fuck her later.
ExpatLover
08-13-21, 07:19
Yes, sugar daddy with sugar went into his brain LOL! It is arbitrage, he got her for 500 euro per hour and counting, but I got her for 50 euro per 30 min, I definitely paid attention in math class better LOL!But for 50 you get a overfucked girl with 10 or 20 guys every day, he gets a exclusive fresh girl, that he can fuck without condom. I am not sure that your choice is better.
There is no arbitrage, and if there is then it is in favor of sugardaddy sites; I have used SA quite a bit in EU and the per hour allowance comes to 100 or sometimes less; these days in FKKs, you are getting lousy service for 100, if at all. The only advantage FKKs have is the ambience, the large easy selection.My favorite girl of all time was Russian Marina. She was blond with very beautiful DD tits.
This was around 2004 I believe.
As far as I know she married the owner of Goldentime near theüsseldorf and this disappeared from Oase.
On my very first visit to Sharks many years ago I took the train to Darmstadt Nord and decided to walk to the club. I somehow mixed up the direction and took a wrong turn. I ended up walking and walking. Back then I did not use cell phone abroad. To make matters worse it was a public holiday with no one walking to ask directions. The only thing I possibly could have done was to go up to a residence knock on the door and ask for directions to Sharks, LOL. I walked around for hours which included going back to the train station and waiting alone for a train, for over an hour, which never arrived. I did eventually find the club thanks to coming across a Sharks sign directing to the club. I had loads of cash with me but never felt unsafe. I would feel uneasy walking through a field though.
Regarding taking a taxi to the train station from Oase. I know that taxi drivers have families to feed and need to make a viable living but I hate to be scammed. It is very rare that I have an altercation with a taxi driver but I did have one once on a journey back to the station from Oase. I refused to pay him what he requested. He tried to get other drivers involved and I stated my case to them but they remained non committal. In the end I paid him the amount I had always given drivers for that route. Fortunately, the Oase shuttle was instituted just around that time. It has nothing to do with the money itself but about not having somebody think that he has taken advantage of me.Actually, the only criminals you will ever encounter in the Seulberg / Friedrichdorf / Burgholzhousen area are the taxi drivers. That area is all friendly middle or upper middle class native Germans. And the only criminal act they will ever do is to drive you while lying about having trouble turning on the taximeter. So they will just ask for 11 or 12 euro black payment.
The day I get jaded and start believing that girls were more beautiful and better at sex in the past, I will make a suicide and rather start all over again. But so far I feel it has been status quo for 19 years since I lost my virginity. Even in FKKs since 2012. Some clubs rise and others fall, but overall I doubt the best clubs pre 2012 had girls better than the top girls today.
Well it is 2021 now dear LOL!...and I am banging too many overweight hookers, sigh.
The day I get jaded and start believing that girls were more beautiful and better at sex in the past, I will make a suicide and rather start all over again. But so far I feel it has been status quo for 19 years since I lost my virginity. Even in FKKs since 2012. Some clubs rise and others fall, but overall I doubt the best clubs pre 2012 had girls better than the top girls today.There are always pretty girls. But the service levels were better, hassle factor was less of a nuisance. I don't see why that is difficult to fathom. If you believe services can get better, you should also realize service levels can get worse. Nothing ever moves in one direction only permanently.
MintChocolate
08-20-21, 01:55
I wouldn't let the contact info requirement deter you from visiting. At Sharks you can write any name and phone number you want on the clipboard. I think (but not positive) at Oase it was the same. Write whatever you want. Finca in Dierdorf seemed a little more organized and official about things but I'm sure you could fake it if you want. Or just don't enter if they want real info.
Plenty of girls sitting around available at all the clubs. They are asking higher prices so there is less demand.What's the current going rate? It used to be 50 EUR pre-covid.
Lucky Nuts
08-20-21, 02:42
What's the current going rate? It used to be 50 EUR pre-covid.That 50 pre-covid rate is still available from most girls for basic service meaning covered BJ and no kissing. That is the option I chose most often last month compared to almost all sessions of 1 hour for 100 euros pre-covid including BBBJ and kissing. I did get one 50 euro half hour at Palace with BBBJ but she was not a real hot girl I'd say a 7.
My favorite girl of all time was Russian Marina. She was blond with very beautiful DD tits.
This was around 2004 I believe.
As far as I know she married the owner of Goldentime near thesseldorf and this disappeared from Oase.Really not pretty with hard face when getting older and not at all appealing behavior. At least she remained blond.
I did get one 50 euro half hour at Palace with BBBJ but she was not a real hot girl I'd say a 7.Ingrid from Czech?
Sadly, no more bus from Frankfurt Hauptbanhof.Is this going on forever, not temporarily?
Is this going on forever, not temporarily?I think it's a casualty of the business environment. Just not enough traffic nowadays. Maybe if business gets better.
I am in Oase now and I can't believe how it became so awful. Only around 10 girls at afternoon, max 30 evening time. Food so awful, no more pizza. Only few beautiful girls. Everyone is asking ridiculous prices, got terrible service from girl named Mickey. Worst case is that I need to come back here tomorrow again since I booked 2 nights stay in Friedrichsdorf. I will post more details when I will return to US.
I am in Oase now and I can't believe how it became so awful. Only around 10 girls at afternoon, max 30 evening time. Food so awful, no more pizza. Only few beautiful girls. Everyone is asking ridiculous prices, got terrible service from girl named Mickey. Worst case is that I need to come back here tomorrow again since I booked 2 nights stay in Friedrichsdorf. I will post more details when I will return to US.Girls are killing business at Oase, when was my best club and best casting in 2019 , higher for looks than Globe. If I were You, I would manage to go to Sharks rather than wasting money with girls who try to fuck You. I don t give my money to such girls, when some beauties really deserve to invest on them.
I think it's a casualty of the business environment. Just not enough traffic nowadays. Maybe if business gets better.I hope for that. That bus was very useful. Thank you.
Seem exotic Iranian to discover? When I remember Lebanese Sofia on Summer 2019, not a model but lovely and guys returned with big banana. Maybe I missed for banana, but Ela with her wow aura was great for me and I remember how she changed after less than 2 minutes in bed and didn't seem to let me think to go with others.
Girls are killing business at Oase, when was my best club and best casting in 2019 , higher for looks than Globe. If I were You, I would manage to go to Sharks rather than wasting money with girls who try to fuck You. I don t give my money to such girls, when some beauties really deserve to invest on them.I feel bad for the owner (son). He is trying really hard to make everything right, but he needs to understand that guys come there for girls. By the way there was pizza on Saturday.
I feel bad for the owner (son). He is trying really hard to make everything right, but he needs to understand that guys come there for girls. By the way there was pizza on Saturday.Yes, staff is friendly and one of the most beautiful club, far higher than Globe, but they have to manage better their girls who make clients not returning. It will be better when long time girls will leave. Or I go as restaurant, hotel, jacuzzi, football in garden, to recover and relax for entry 50.
ShinyCrazy
08-25-21, 12:32
Post COVID FKK tour part two (see the Sharks thread for part one):
Now I turned my attention to Oase. Taxi from Bad Homburg station was 21 Euro. The club was very quiet compared to pre-COVID. I would estimate 25 girls and about 40 guys mid week. The facilities are pretty much the same as pre-COVID, meaning a notch or two below Sharks. Still a great facility and the outdoor area is very nice with a large grassy yard. The girls were the usual mix of 80% Romanian 20% other. The food was adequate. The pizza oven is still the best option unless you are sick of pizza. Overall, the mid-week club just felt a little sad compared to the pumping crowds and energy of a pre-COVID Saturday night. We have to support all of these clubs or they will fold, so even though Sharks is better overall, it is still worth a trip up to Oase.
Girls:
Larissa (Romanian, about 25 yo, dirty blonde hair) for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and covered CIP for 100 Euro for 30 minutes. Again, the Romanian girls are fairly consistent for service for me, but always seem more detached. She was good, but not great. I love to watch the slim fresh young Romanian girls, but the rough ones with black eye makeup, covered in tattoos and chain smoking are just vulgar and worthless for GFE in my experience. Even the fresh young ones can be pretty robotic sadly. Given a choice, I seek out Latinas, Hungarians, Czech, Poles, etc.
Shiva, a Persian girl who says she is under 30 but has some crows feet that betray her, has a very short haircut and looks like Isabella Rossellini in her younger days. Worked in London for several years, speaks great English, and has the sparkling personality of a high end escort, meaning she is effortlessly pleasant and has the psychological sophistication to understand how to make your time with her magical. Did one hour with DFK, DATY, covered CIP, BBBJ with CIM and simultaneous prostate massage for 200 Euro. She had more class and beauty and charm in her little finger than the average tatted up Romanian motorcycle chick has in her whole 98 pound body. Real DFK with tons of eye contact and her focus was on me for the entire hour. Sincere and enthusiastic, or at least an extremely good actress. Highly recommend. These are the kind of sessions that you hope for. Just total satisfaction and a cheerful girl from start to finish. I would go back to Oase if only to repeat with Shiva.
There was a girl from Venezuela and one from the Dominican Republic. These would be on my short list for another visit. Don't get me wrong, the clubs are built on Romanian girls, and I do find ones that I really enjoy, but I love variety and the Romanian girls don't always get the GFE thing. Their natural inclination is to be a PSE provider, so if you like PSE then stick to the tatted up Romanians. If not, see if the club has any other options.
I did tons of research for this trip, including plans to explore the clubs of NRW that I've never seen before, but COVID19 put an end to those plans. The NRW clubs were all closed and a taxi driver told me that Artemis in Berlin was closed too. I had researched the other small FKK clubs around Hesse, the RLD in Frankfurt, the Laufhauses in the region, etc. But I never bothered to try those. Ultimately, if you are in Hesse for one week and you have traveled across oceans to get there, Sharks and Oase are really the only clubs in Hesse that make the expense seem worthwhile. There are plenty of other destinations with walk-up brothels or apartment girls or whatever, but only Germany has mega-clubs with a hundred nude girls (pre Covid), buffet of decent food, and classy indoor and outdoor nudist relaxation facilities. And in Hesse, there are only 2 clubs that really hit all of those targets, Sharks and Oase. They are both pretty good value for money if you stay most of the day.
...... We have to support all of these clubs or they will fold.....I must confess I have always been selfish in my choice of clubs but this is a good perspective. The fortunes of clubs vary and we should try to keep their heads above water. Oase was very good to me pre-2012.
I must confess I have always been selfish in my choice of clubs but this is a good perspective. The fortunes of clubs vary and we should try to keep their heads above water. Oase was very good to me pre-2012.Oase staff is nice, saw a top blond beauty on lounge bar on day, but I will never support how work most of long time girls who killed business there and they are fully responsible beautiful Oase is most often empty now and unfortunately new fresh beauties don t stay for long for no business. Wish these girls leave as fast as possible when they seem stuck despite covid, for new better fresh blood. Fortunately, not only Oase and Sharks worthing in Hessen. I'm not sure taxi drivers or once a year visitors can be considered as experts to know interesting places, even I agree Oase is a beautiful club, but 0 room for me on my 2 visits on this year. 50 € restaurant, hotel, spa and football playfield, but when I could visit FKK land more than 5 days weekly out of my holidays, I never claimed to be expert or specialist.
I feel bad for the owner (son). He is trying really hard to make everything right, but he needs to understand that guys come there for girls. By the way there was pizza on Saturday.Yah, I always cringe when I see cosmetic "upgrades" to the clubs when changing the culture is free. Or put more resources into recruiting more girls. A simple act of giving girls cheaper entry on slower weekdays could help the line up on those days. Or even just lower the entry for the girls to undercut other clubs.
Anyway, they're probably not trying that hard to make the club all that profitable. Guessing they have other ventures or the club may even be used to wash money. That's the only way I can reason the consistently odd business decisions at both Sharks and Oase. I'm sure they greatly exaggerate these renovation costs to write off as expenses.
Is Moro (SP?) no longer actively running the club?
ExpatLover
08-26-21, 04:33
Oase staff is nice, saw a top blond beauty on lounge bar on day, but I will never support how work most of long time girls who killed business there and they are fully responsible beautiful Oase is most often empty now and unfortunately new fresh beauties don t stay for long for no business. Wish these girls leave as fast as possible when they seem stuck despite covid, for new better fresh blood. Fortunately, not only Oase and Sharks worthing in Hessen. I'm not sure taxi drivers or once a year visitors can be considered as experts to know interesting places, even I agree Oase is a beautiful club, but 0 room for me on my 2 visits on this year. 50 restaurant, hotel, spa and football playfield, but when I could visit FKK land more than 5 days weekly out of my holidays, I never claimed to be expert or specialist.You all forget 1 thing, Shark, Oase, Palace were always Fair or Messe clubs. They lived from those big events and for the big fairs there were always girls coming from every where for 1 or 2 weeks. At this time the clubs and the girls were making a lot of easy money.
Post COVID FKK tour part two (see the Sharks thread for part one):
Now I turned my attention to Oase. Taxi from Bad Homburg station was 21 Euro. The club was very quiet compared to pre-COVID. I would estimate 25 girls and about 40 guys mid week. The facilities are pretty much the same as pre-COVID, meaning a notch or two below Sharks. Still a great facility and the outdoor area is very nice with a large grassy yard. The girls were the usual mix of 80% Romanian 20% other. The food was adequate. The pizza oven is still the best option unless you are sick of pizza. Overall, the mid-week club just felt a little sad compared to the pumping crowds and energy of a pre-COVID Saturday night. We have to support all of these clubs or they will fold, so even though Sharks is better overall, it is still worth a trip up to Oase.
Girls:
Larissa (Romanian, about 25 yo, dirty blonde hair) for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and covered CIP for 100 Euro for 30 minutes. Again, the Romanian girls are fairly consistent for service for me, but always seem more detached. She was good, but not great. I love to watch the slim fresh young Romanian girls, but the rough ones with black eye makeup, covered in tattoos and chain smoking are just vulgar and worthless for GFE in my experience. Even the fresh young ones can be pretty robotic sadly. Given a choice, I seek out Latinas, Hungarians, Czech, Poles, etc.
Shiva, a Persian girl who says she is under 30 but has some crows feet that betray her, has a very short haircut and looks like Isabella Rossellini in her younger days. Worked in London for several years, speaks great English, and has the sparkling personality of a high end escort, meaning she is effortlessly pleasant and has the psychological sophistication to understand how to make your time with her magical. Did one hour with DFK, DATY, covered CIP, BBBJ with CIM and simultaneous prostate massage for 200 Euro. She had more class and beauty and charm in her little finger than the average tatted up Romanian motorcycle chick has in her whole 98 pound body. Real DFK with tons of eye contact and her focus was on me for the entire hour. Sincere and enthusiastic, or at least an extremely good actress. Highly recommend. These are the kind of sessions that you hope for. Just total satisfaction and a cheerful girl from start to finish. I would go back to Oase if only to repeat with Shiva.
There was a girl from Venezuela and one from the Dominican Republic. These would be on my short list for another visit. Don't get me wrong, the clubs are built on Romanian girls, and I do find ones that I really enjoy, but I love variety and the Romanian girls don't always get the GFE thing. Their natural inclination is to be a PSE provider, so if you like PSE then stick to the tatted up Romanians. If not, see if the club has any other options.
I did tons of research for this trip, including plans to explore the clubs of NRW that I've never seen before, but COVID19 put an end to those plans. The NRW clubs were all closed and a taxi driver told me that Artemis in Berlin was closed too. I had researched the other small FKK clubs around Hesse, the RLD in Frankfurt, the Laufhauses in the region, etc. But I never bothered to try those. Ultimately, if you are in Hesse for one week and you have traveled across oceans to get there, Sharks and Oase are really the only clubs in Hesse that make the expense seem worthwhile. There are plenty of other destinations with walk-up brothels or apartment girls or whatever, but only Germany has mega-clubs with a hundred nude girls (pre Covid), buffet of decent food, and classy indoor and outdoor nudist relaxation facilities. And in Hesse, there are only 2 clubs that really hit all of those targets, Sharks and Oase. They are both pretty good value for money if you stay most of the day.Thanks for your report. So you paid Euro 50 upon the "normal" price to get the "standard" service?
Half hour with DFK, BBBJ and CIP covered should be Euro 50 (not 100) and one hour with CIM should be Euro 150 (not 200). This is exactly the reason why locals avoid Oase and Sharks etc, and prefer the smaller clubs, where girls still offer decent service at a decent price.
Thanks for your report. So you paid Euro 50 upon the "normal" price to get the "standard" service?
Half hour with DFK, BBBJ and CIP covered should be Euro 50 (not 100) and one hour with CIM should be Euro 150 (not 200). This is exactly the reason why locals avoid Oase and Sharks etc, and prefer the smaller clubs, where girls still offer decent service at a decent price.Yes, because of long time girls way for business, beautiful Oase is emptying because others than tourists don't accept to be fucked there, but not at all for Sharks where many locals and Germans. Don't believe all what is written on German forums, far from reality, maybe they preferred foreigners to stay away, but they are not able to give enough business to girls. I think he bought CIM and prostate massage so 200/60 is usual Hessen rate. When I m sad for Oase where staff is nice, but Sharks is best club I visited on this year, higher than Globe and with prettier girls, and higher than Wellcum.
You all forget 1 thing, Shark, Oase, Palace were always Fair or Messe clubs. They lived from those big events and for the big fairs there were always girls coming from every where for 1 or 2 weeks. At this time the clubs and the girls were making a lot of easy money.When did you visit on last time to know about casting? On 9 July, I saw arriving a virgin full natural supermodel look at Sharks, most impressive look seen on this year, not same level seen at Globe or Wellcum, and if I was not a so bad hunter, but my belly was not fine yet, I could have been her first, like I was with Tabeta. De on 14 March 2020 . Like some others here, You write without visiting, without knowing, when German or NL or Swiss forums are not what I call reliability, because You experience from what You are, and when I feel how I m able to recover in steep above 2500 high after 2 hours climbing the highest ranked, all professionals would say very difficult, I just fuck covid and delta and will keep on enjoying when I succeed to find a beauty and still few fresh beauties. July was pleasure for me, of course August in mountains is wow.
ExpatLover
08-27-21, 03:39
When did you visit on last time to know about casting? On 9 July, I saw arriving a virgin full natural supermodel look at Sharks, most impressive look seen on this year, not same level seen at Globe or Wellcum, and if I was not a so bad hunter, but my belly was not fine yet, I could have been her first, like I was with Tabeta. De on 14 March 2020 . Like some others here, You write without visiting, without knowing, when German or NL or Swiss forums are not what I call reliability, because You experience from what You are, and when I feel how I m able to recover in steep above 2500 high after 2 hours climbing the highest ranked, all professionals would say very difficult, I just fuck covid and delta and will keep on enjoying when I succeed to find a beauty and still few fresh beauties. July was pleasure for me, of course August in mountains is wow.My comment was about how the big fairs in Frankfurt were bringing a lot of easy money to the FKK and girls. Even I am fully vaccinated I will not visit any FKK in the the coming months. I am putting my resources on real estate purchases and classic cars.
My comment was about how the big fairs in Frankfurt were bringing a lot of easy money to the FKK and girls. Even I am fully vaccinated I will not visit any FKK in the the coming months. I am putting my resources on real estate purchases and classic cars.You don't visit Hessen clubs since long time. On IAA 2015, no big business in clubs and same after. Your choice for life and I respect, but I prefer to enjoy my money before dying, when I think I'm younger.
AllanFracis
08-28-21, 03:33
Hi all,
I am planning to visit an FKK in Frankfurt on coming Thursday. Which one would be your recommendation considering current covid situation and availability of pretty chicks?
ExpatLover
08-28-21, 08:12
You don't visit Hessen clubs since long time. On IAA 2015, no big business in clubs and same after. Your choice for life and I respect, but I prefer to enjoy my money before dying, when I think I'm younger.I also respect your choice but I can also enjoy driving and restoring my classic cars. When the women know that you stop going to prostitutes that open also new opportunities, normal women don t like men fucking with prostitutes they are afraid to catch some MST or even covid.
Reef LostCause
08-28-21, 11:46
Girls:
Shiva, a Persian girl who says she is under 30 but has some crows feet that betray her, has a very short haircut and looks like Isabella Rossellini in her younger days. Worked in London for several years, speaks great English, and has the sparkling personality of a high end escort, meaning she is effortlessly pleasant and has the psychological sophistication to understand how to make your time with her magical. Did one hour with DFK, DATY, covered CIP, BBBJ with CIM and simultaneous prostate massage for 200 Euro. She had more class and beauty and charm in her little finger than the average tatted up Romanian motorcycle chick has in her whole 98 pound body. Real DFK with tons of eye contact and her focus was on me for the entire hour. Sincere and enthusiastic, or at least an extremely good actress. Highly recommend. These are the kind of sessions that you hope for. Just total satisfaction and a cheerful girl from start to finish. I would go back to Oase if only to repeat with Shiva.
Thanks for your report. So you paid Euro 50 upon the "normal" price to get the "standard" service?
Half hour with DFK, BBBJ and CIP covered should be Euro 50 (not 100) and one hour with CIM should be Euro 150 (not 200). This is exactly the reason why locals avoid Oase and Sharks etc, and prefer the smaller clubs, where girls still offer decent service at a decent price.I recently did a multiple day trip in Frankfurt area.
After some social time and thanks to her general attitude and looks, Shiva was the only girl for which I was willing to take a "calculated risk" of overpaying.
Let's just say that I confirm ShinyCrazy's report: I was not disappointed.
BTW, there are lots of "locals" at Oase, it's the naked retired Germans who come every day, eat 4 times a day and do zero rooms.
Reef LostCause
08-28-21, 13:27
Is Moro (SP?) no longer actively running the club?I understand Mauro has retired.
I feel bad for the owner (son). He is trying really hard to make everything right, but he needs to understand that guys come there for girls. By the way there was pizza on Saturday.Is his son the guy w / beard, glasses, curly hair and white shirt at the entrance?
I think it's a casualty of the business environment. Just not enough traffic nowadays. Maybe if business gets better.Actually. I was told by the aforementioned guy that they could / would restart it after COVID.
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BTW, there are lots of "locals" at Oase, it's the naked retired Germans who come every day, eat 4 times a day and do zero rooms.I wonder what happens when the winter comes and the club is less appealing.
Girls are killing business at Oase, when was my best club and best casting in 2019 , higher for looks than Globe. If I were You, I would manage to go to Sharks rather than wasting money with girls who try to fuck You. I don t give my money to such girls, when some beauties really deserve to invest on them.I really hope Oase does not go under. It was my first FKK and my p4p at the club has been among my best of all time. What memories!
I really hope Oase does not go under. It was my first FKK and my p4p at the club has been among my best of all time. What memories!Second that. Oase 2005-2010 ish had some amazing girls.
I also respect your choice but I can also enjoy driving and restoring my classic cars. When the women know that you stop going to prostitutes that open also new opportunities, normal women don t like men fucking with prostitutes they are afraid to catch some MST or even covid.Since I started, I never told any woman I fuck most of beauties around FKK land. I never told anybody and I even never advised any guy to go. I know why I go, all is under control. Today, after calling Palace, I chose Oase. My last girl was at Andiamo on 15 August. Since then, rubbing my balls on bicycle seat every day, climbing Izoard, Galibier, Agnello both sides, la Bonette 2802 high. I read here and elsewhere, so I wished for a exotic sensual Sherazade to dream 1001 nights. After climbing la Bonette, driving from south of France, sleeping a bit in car but more working, I ran under shower when I arrived, when was smelling so much. Under shower, I was lucky, I saw Sherazade returning from room, but I would say minimum 65 kgs for around 165 on the floor, so after 2 weeks, so much intense sport, couldn't find any desirable girl at Oase, but I ate very good chili con carne, I played football and I washed. No problem, all is under control, tomorrow may be a better day. To support a bit sad even a bit crowded Oase, long time blond Laura, Mady ex History and Globe are back and now blond Marina / Alina still there. But casting is really down. Good for restaurant and hotel with SPA for 50 .
OnlyLiveOnce9
08-30-21, 01:07
Hi all,
I am planning to visit an FKK in Frankfurt on coming Thursday. Which one would be your recommendation considering current covid situation and availability of pretty chicks?+1.
Can someone report the following clubs recently? I'm also new to Frankfurt.
Thanks.
Oase: How many girls / entry price / 1 H and 0.5 H price.
Palace:
World:
Sharks:
I visited FKK Palmas Saunaclub several years ago, it really amazed me. Unfortunately, it's not open.
ExpatLover
08-30-21, 09:01
Since I started, I never told any woman I fuck most of beauties around FKK land. I never told anybody and I even never advised any guy to go. I know why I go, all is under control. Today, after calling Palace, I chose Oase. My last girl was at Andiamo on 15 August. Since then, rubbing my balls on bicycle seat every day, climbing Izoard, Galibier, Agnello both sides, la Bonette 2802 high. I read here and elsewhere, so I wished for a exotic sensual Sherazade to dream 1001 nights. After climbing la Bonette, driving from south of France, sleeping a bit in car but more working, I ran under shower when I arrived, when was smelling so much. Under shower, I was lucky, I saw Sherazade returning from room, but I would say minimum 65 kgs for around 165 on the floor, so after 2 weeks, so much intense sport, couldn't find any desirable girl at Oase, but I ate very good chili con carne, I played football and I washed. No problem, all is under control, tomorrow may be a better day. To support a bit sad even a bit crowded Oase, long time blond Laura, Mady ex History and Globe are back and now blond Marina / Alina still there. But casting is really down. Good for restaurant and hotel with SPA for 50 .You believe that it is under control but in fact I think that you are suffering from a serious sex addiction, easy to be sure just stop to fuck prostitutes for at least 1 year, so you can see if it is bearable for you or you are suffering from it.
You believe that it is under control but in fact I think that you are suffering from a serious sex addiction, easy to be sure just stop to fuck prostitutes for at least 1 year, so you can see if it is bearable for you or you are suffering from it.Ask your doctor about meaning of addiction = suffering, not being able to control. I didn't suffer yesterday repeating with my 2 girls at Sharks. You seem at least addicted to this forum.
You believe that it is under control but in fact I think that you are suffering from a serious sex addiction, easy to be sure just stop to fuck prostitutes for at least 1 year, so you can see if it is bearable for you or you are suffering from it.From his reports I do not think that Sirioja has a sex addiction. He posts many times that he leaves clubs with full balls. That is not the behavior of a sex addict.
From his reports I do not think that Sirioja has a sex addiction. He posts many times that he leaves clubs with full balls. That is not the behavior of a sex addict.After rubbing my balls and ass on bicycle for 2 weeks, I didn't go with any girl at Oase despite Iranian Shiva, and no rush on next day at Sharks, I just waited quietly for my 2 girls, when my follower was so much in rush. I left so many times Globe with no room, desk looking at me like a alien. Some here use words without knowing the meaning, just ask doctors about meaning.
ExpatLover
09-01-21, 18:44
From his reports I do not think that Sirioja has a sex addiction. He posts many times that he leaves clubs with full balls. That is not the behavior of a sex addict.How many time, energy, money is he spending on prostitutes, FKK, how many risks is he taking to drive so many kilometres, if all this is not a kind of addiction I really don t know.
I'm in the FRA area for the weekend with some downtime on Sunday. Thinking of hitting one or two of Sharks, Oase, Palace.
Which one is best? Criteria. Outdoor pool / seating, good lineup, friendly girls. I do not speak German.
Also, if any of you are in the area and would like to catch up over beer / girls, feel free to hit me up.
SobeLizard
09-02-21, 18:09
I'm in the FRA area for the weekend with some downtime on Sunday. Thinking of hitting one or two of Sharks, Oase, Palace.
Which one is best? Criteria. Outdoor pool / seating, good lineup, friendly girls. I do not speak German.
Also, if any of you are in the area and would like to catch up over beer / girls, feel free to hit me up.Nobody here is going to give Free advice.
Everyone has paid with mistakes and bad experience over the years.
Everything is YMMV.
If you want absolute good service then pay for all the extras.
SobeLizard
09-02-21, 21:34
How many time, energy, money is he spending on prostitutes, FKK, how many risks is he taking to drive so many kilometres, if all this is not a kind of addiction I really don t know.You are using way too much time, energy, money opposing others in this forum.
Talk about girls, experience, Line-Up, ambiance.
Go to another Forum to talk about non-girls related topics.
You totally trashed the German Forums with 4000 off-topic post.
Lucky Nuts
09-03-21, 03:28
You are using way too much time, energy, money opposing others in this forum.
Talk about girls, experience, Line-Up, ambiance.
Go to another Forum to talk about non-girls related topics.
You totally trashed the German Forums with 4000 off-topic post.Click on "Settings" on the upper left red menu and then find "Edit Ignore List" and add his name. I haven't had to read his posts for several months now. Life is too short.
I'm in the FRA area for the weekend with some downtime on Sunday. Thinking of hitting one or two of Sharks, Oase, Palace.
Which one is best? Criteria. Outdoor pool / seating, good lineup, friendly girls. I do not speak German.
Also, if any of you are in the area and would like to catch up over beer / girls, feel free to hit me up.By far, Sharks is best casting. Entry 50 before 2 pm. Fast test on entry if you need.
ExpatLover
09-03-21, 12:18
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How many time, energy, money is he spending on prostitutes, FKK, how many risks is he taking to drive so many kilometres, if all this is not a kind of addiction I really don t know.Right to spend too much money in this business, when not robbering my money and maybe I should put under my pillow and stay in bed waiting to die. So much risks taken when free riding without helmet, warning materiel, but looking for most extreme spots. For Verbier Mont Gelé on Verbier side, have to jump to start the run, but on right foot, which is not possible for me, so have to switch off brain to be able. On 14 July, when so bad quattro new generation played so bad reaction on rear of the car under big rain and couldn't control, but when I understood when happen very fast, I couldn't help crashing, when cars are made to maximum protect on front crash, but after fighting with Audi for 1 year to get a new engine under guaranty after needing to explain so much and prove for so long time, so my reflex was to turn car on my side to crash, to protect new engine. On front crash at this speed, airbags safety would have opened and then car was dead, when I avoided airbags to work. After crash, after starting car which was in safety mode, engine was perfect and I just didn't care about my left shoulder I already killed 15 years ago on ski fall, I didn't feel anything when police advised me to go to hospital, and impressed later girls when became black and yellow. Just my reflex when used to take risks. Part of my life since many years, was one of very rare problems with my girlfriends, couldn't go on my holidays with them, they would not have let me enjoying my extreme sports. I would have died depressed if I couldn't get adrenaline I need, from my sports.
Right to spend too much money in this business, when not robbering my money and maybe I should put under my pillow and stay in bed waiting to die. So much risks taken when free riding without helmet, warning materiel, but looking for most extreme spots. For Verbier Mont Gel on Verbier side, have to jump to start the run, but on right foot, which is not possible for me, so have to switch off brain to be able. On 14 July, when so bad quattro new generation played so bad reaction on rear of the car under big rain and couldn't control, but when I understood when happen very fast, I couldn't help crashing, when cars are made to maximum protect on front crash, but after fighting with Audi for 1 year to get a new engine under guaranty after needing to explain so much and prove for so long time, so my reflex was to turn car on my side to crash, to protect new engine. On front crash at this speed, airbags safety would have opened and then car was dead, when I avoided airbags to work. After crash, after starting car which was in safety mode, engine was perfect and I just didn't care about my left shoulder I already killed 15 years ago on ski fall, I didn't feel anything when police advised me to go to hospital, and impressed later girls when became black and yellow. Just my reflex when used to take risks. Part of my life since many years, was one of very rare problems with my girlfriends, couldn't go on my holidays with them, they would not have let me enjoying my extreme sports. I would have died depressed if I couldn't get adrenaline I need, from my sports.Very interesting LOL!
A nice day at Oase yesterday, the weather was perfect and all the men were outside with few girls to be seen, but by early evening the lineup had improved and there were some good choices, I ended up with a Morrocan / Spanish mixed girl who was great. It's been many years since my last visit and the refurb of the main lounge looks good if a little too dark.
ShinieStone
09-09-21, 13:30
After reopening, I went to several clubs in Frankfurt. Among them, this club was the best. I expected Sharks, but it wasn't very good. The informations were helpful. Thank you to everyone.
I'll be traveling from the United States to Oslo in early December, and I'll have a long layover in Frankfurt. I plan to visit Sharks during my first layover and Oase during my second layover which will mean I'll get to Oase a couple of hours before midnight on a Friday. I plan to be at Oase until it closes early on Saturday.
How is Oase on a late Friday night? Will I have to wade through a crush of other men to get to the best girls? Are there any particular girls I should try to session with?
I'll be traveling from the United States to Oslo in early December, and I'll have a long layover in Frankfurt. I plan to visit Sharks during my first layover and Oase during my second layover which will mean I'll get to Oase a couple of hours before midnight on a Friday. I plan to be at Oase until it closes early on Saturday.
How is Oase on a late Friday night? Will I have to wade through a crush of other men to get to the best girls? Are there any particular girls I should try to session with?Usually not so crowded or more for shisha, when guys who spend on girls are a bit bored to be fucked by upselling long time girls. Pity when Oase is really beautiful club with entry only 50. Relax room to sleep.
I'll be traveling from the United States to Oslo in early December, and I'll have a long layover in Frankfurt. I plan to visit Sharks during my first layover and Oase during my second layover which will mean I'll get to Oase a couple of hours before midnight on a Friday. I plan to be at Oase until it closes early on Saturday.
How is Oase on a late Friday night? Will I have to wade through a crush of other men to get to the best girls? Are there any particular girls I should try to session with?I was at Oase last week end. It's about 30% full only, and there was, at most, 30 girls. Some really good looking ones so no problem on this side. However as it was mentioned in other posts, a lot of the girls are the ones that have been here non-stop for years, tend to be a little loud and will try to upsell you. The good side is that if you want to keep your distances from other people, it's easy to do there given there aren't that many people. I am not sure why it's not busier than that. Other clubs like Sharks have almost gone back to pre-covid conditions. Either way, I stayed there for the whole afternoon and evening, I had a good time and a couple of rooms. The pizza is still as fantastic as always.
I was at Oase last week end. It's about 30% full only, and there was, at most, 30 girls. Some really good looking ones so no problem on this side. However as it was mentioned in other posts, a lot of the girls are the ones that have been here non-stop for years, tend to be a little loud and will try to upsell you. The good side is that if you want to keep your distances from other people, it's easy to do there given there aren't that many people. I am not sure why it's not busier than that. Other clubs like Sharks have almost gone back to pre-covid conditions. Either way, I stayed there for the whole afternoon and evening, I had a good time and a couple of rooms. The pizza is still as fantastic as always.Why rather empty? Just because of long time girls. I remember about new beauties on 2019 , being told how to rate, or many leaving very fast. Pity when I prefer Oase than Sharks for the club, but not for casting.
Reef LostCause
09-21-21, 18:47
Are there any particular girls I should try to session with?It's hard to answer that without knowing what you are looking for, but the current Star of Oase is the Iranian with short black hair.
She charges 100/30 though, but may be worth it.
No guarantee she'll still be there in December of course.
It's hard to answer that without knowing what you are looking for, but the current Star of Oase is the Iranian with short black hair.
She charges 100/30 though, but may be worth it.
No guarantee she'll still be there in December of course.Really not slim and not even wow face for me, I didn't ask her. Prettiest is blond German on lounge bar on day.
TaninoLulz
09-22-21, 19:40
Last time I visited the club after Covid back in July I noticed that a lot of girls are not naked anymore, they have pussy covered, is that still a thing? I remember before COVID break they were actually nude, looked like a Thursday dessous day even if it wasn't.
Not as many girls than at Sharks because slower business killed by upselling to fuck tourists. Pity when a new beauty arrive, most often not staying for long because too slow business. At nights, mostly shisha lounge.
Last time I visited the club after Covid back in July I noticed that a lot of girls are not naked anymore, they have pussy covered, is that still a thing? I remember before COVID break they were actually nude, looked like a Thursday dessous day even if it wasn't.In March, 2020 most girls were covered.
ExpatLover
09-23-21, 19:06
In March, 2020 most girls were covered.And what about in 1920?
Does anyone have the information on the VIP club, prices, what do you get for your money etc.
Does Oase have porn playing on television? I liked Oase when I visited years ago but I don't like the porn. I plan to visit again.
Does Oase have porn playing on television? I liked Oase when I visited years ago but I don't like the porn. I plan to visit again.At least 6 screens in lounge, but no more public BJ, just watching with shisha.
Does Oase have porn playing on television? I liked Oase when I visited years ago but I don't like the porn. I plan to visit again.When I last visited in March 2020 there were numerous screens with porn action.
2nd leg of trip. After a successful day at Sharks yesterday (see report in that thread) with the amazing body of Beatrice, decided to return to Oase today. First time since 2019. First noticed that parts of the club have been decorated in dark grey with black couch seating even by the downstairs pool. Disappointed to see the table football disappear. For the first time in the many years I have visited this club they had cut the grass. WTF?👏😂 Well done. I arrived 4 pm. 50 entry paid to new receptionist but later I did see the miserable one with the Mickey Mouse buns haircut which is awful. She is as unfriendly as ever!
I was disappointed that there were no girls outside despite it being a lovely day. Treated myself to a bottle of red wine and took it to the tent at the top of the field (as no girls were parading in the lovely sunshine at the pool). Just a lot of old, wrinkly naked Germans! Had nearly two hours in the sunshine letting time go by. When the weather is good, I truly love Oase.
So despite recent reports that the line up has deteriorated, I thought it was pretty good. Indeed I would say it was no better worse than Sharks. Yes there are some old faces (at both clubs) and nearly sessioned again with my longstanding favourite Daniella. So pretty. Body still a little heavy but her service is superb. Denisa has gone blonde hair instead of dark. It suited her. Half tempted by blonde Fabiana. Good body. One very pretty half-Asian girl said she was Romanian Lena. Wore sexy red stockings and I did contemplate taking her to the room. Most girls, like in Sharks were doing 150/ hour but a few more than in Sharks asked for 200/hour. It is funny how much girls speak to one another about customers. I was approached by brunette Maria. Pretty enough. She told me that she heard I like long rooms. I said 2 hours is enough. I passed on her offer of 400! Told her I had been offered a lot less for 2 hours (which was true) but she didn't flinch so I said my goodbyes.
I had walked passed blonde Romanian Carla several times and we'the exchanged smiles. Blonde 23 but looks a little older. Face 8/10, body 7/10 but her service was truly fabulous 10/10. I asked her a price for an hour first, she said she would be happy to do old rate 100/60. Nice surprise and off we went. Ended up extending to 2 hours, and the service was so good, as was her company, I tipped her. Not least as she was not silly about her price. Too much other commitments for me in the late evening to attend so had to leave earlier than I wanted. Sampled the (awful) food. No time for massage, so only one room.
Several girls complained the club was too quiet and there were not as many men as you'the normally see on a Saturday. But then I left 10.30 pm and several guys were attending.
First time I have really struggled to get a taxi outside in all the many years.
I enjoyed my visit due to the lounging in the sun, and Carla being so good in the room. So one day more and might sample Palace or Mainhattan, or both, but if the sun is as good as today might head back to Oase for a few hours first! I thought it was very nice, and great to be back but I can see that business is very slow for the girls.
Yes slow business for most girls because of their upselling. They are so clever they fucked their business. Locals go for entry 50 but don t go to too expensive room. For 50/30 , girls would get better business. Yes Oase is nice to have a rest day. Grass was often cut when I played football.
2nd leg of trip. After a successful day at Sharks yesterday (see report in that thread) with the amazing body of Beatrice, decided to return to Oase today. First time since 2019. First noticed that parts of the club have been decorated in dark grey with black couch seating even by the downstairs pool. Disappointed to see the table football disappear. For the first time in the many years I have visited this club they had cut the grass. WTF?👏😂 Well done. I arrived 4 pm. 50 entry paid to new receptionist but later I did see the miserable one with the Mickey Mouse buns haircut which is awful. She is as unfriendly as ever!
I was disappointed that there were no girls outside despite it being a lovely day. Treated myself to a bottle of red wine and took it to the tent at the top of the field (as no girls were parading in the lovely sunshine at the pool). Just a lot of old, wrinkly naked Germans! Had nearly two hours in the sunshine letting time go by. When the weather is good, I truly love Oase.150 per hour is fine, but 200 per hour is rip off, no wonder why girls complain about the club is being quiet, who would go for such a rip off rate LOL.
TaninoLulz
09-26-21, 13:16
2nd leg of trip. After a successful day at Sharks yesterday (see report in that thread) with the amazing body of Beatrice, decided to return to Oase today. First time since 2019. First noticed that parts of the club have been decorated in dark grey with black couch seating even by the downstairs pool. Disappointed to see the table football disappear. For the first time in the many years I have visited this club they had cut the grass. WTF?👏😂 Well done. I arrived 4 pm. 50 entry paid to new receptionist but later I did see the miserable one with the Mickey Mouse buns haircut which is awful. She is as unfriendly as ever!
I was disappointed that there were no girls outside despite it being a lovely day. Treated myself to a bottle of red wine and took it to the tent at the top of the field (as no girls were parading in the lovely sunshine at the pool). Just a lot of old, wrinkly naked Germans! Had nearly two hours in the sunshine letting time go by. When the weather is good, I truly love Oase.
So despite recent reports that the line up has deteriorated, I thought it was pretty good. Indeed I would say it was no better worse than Sharks. Yes there are some old faces (at both clubs) and nearly sessioned again with my longstanding favourite Daniella. So pretty. Body still a little heavy but her service is superb. Denisa has gone blonde hair instead of dark. It suited her. Half tempted by blonde Fabiana. Good body. One very pretty half-Asian girl said she was Romanian Lena. Wore sexy red stockings and I did contemplate taking her to the room. Most girls, like in Sharks were doing 150/ hour but a few more than in Sharks asked for 200/hour. It is funny how much girls speak to one another about customers. I was approached by brunette Maria. Pretty enough. She told me that she heard I like long rooms. I said 2 hours is enough. I passed on her offer of 400! Told her I had been offered a lot less for 2 hours (which was true) but she didn't flinch so I said my goodbyes..Thank you for your report, were women naked (exposed private parts) or all dressed up with dessous and things?
150 per hour is fine, but 200 per hour is rip off, no wonder why girls complain about the club is being quiet, who would go for such a rip off rate LOL.I would consider 200 for the hour to be a good deal if that included anal, or if under the new pricing due to legislation it included BBBJ w / CIM. I would go for the anal option myself LOL!
Thank you for your report, were women naked (exposed private parts) or all dressed up with dessous and things?Most of the girls were naked. A couple of girls wore tops to cover boobs but not many and nobody I saw covered their lower private parts.
150 per hour is fine, but 200 per hour is rip off, no wonder why girls complain about the club is being quiet, who would go for such a rip off rate LOL.If you are used to paying 100/ hour (common in FKK land) this is true. But those days are mainly gone (though see my reports on Palace and Mainhattan tonight). But you are a fan of Artemis. Like me- which has always been the most expensive. Now 90 e entry and 140 hour with CBJ or 160 with BBBJ. So Hessen is catching up!
I think 150 is fine if everything included but 200 is a lot after entry.
If you are used to paying 100/ hour (common in FKK land) this is true. But those days are mainly gone (though see my reports on Palace and Mainhattan tonight). But you are a fan of Artemis. Like me- which has always been the most expensive. Now 90 e entry and 140 hour with CBJ or 160 with BBBJ. So Hessen is catching up!
I think 150 is fine if everything included but 200 is a lot after entry.This is exactly the reason these tourist trap clubs go down the drain: as long as men accept paying more then the regular rate (50/30 or 100/60 minutes, including DFK an BBBJ), it will never go back to normal. If they change the offical rate to 100/30 150/60 ok, but as long as this is not the case, do yourself and other fellow mongers a favour and don't step into this Rumanian greedy sharks (trap!
This is exactly the reason these tourist trap clubs go down the drain: as long as men accept paying more then the regular rate (50/30 or 100/60 minutes, including DFK an BBBJ), it will never go back to normal. If they change the offical rate to 100/30 150/60 ok, but as long as this is not the case, do yourself and other fellow mongers a favour and don't step into this Rumanian greedy sharks (trap!If you visited Sharks, you would see some German locals who pay more expensive and not only with few top girls there but trying new ones. When I had many 100/60 rooms there on this Summer and once more yesterday with a girl who didn't speak at all about money. Must be because of my face, when whatever is written, but at least I visit, more than 10 times on this Summer and had 8 rooms on top of Globe level for the 2 looks and their level in bed, one for 100/60 for 3 rooms, 180 supermodel for 150/60 versus 260/60 at Globe where she would be the most fresh impressive look, so I save money for higher level than at falling Globe.
Accepting paying 150/ HR in the clubs while also paying entry doesn't make much sense to me considering you can get these same girls for 150 incall service or for that same rate at other types of venues throughout Europe without the substantially higher FKK entry costs.
At 150/ HR, guys willing to accept that rate would be better off window shopping in Amsterdam or going to ShowPark in Prague. An FKK's appeal has always been a large selection under one roof for a bargain price. Take away the price advantage and are people choosing to visit boring, uptight Germany over relaxed Spain, Netherlands, or Czech Republic?
If you're okay with these higher prices for FKK quality WGs, I think it's time to pause and evaluate if you're making the best purchase decision when you compare those rates to other options in the mongering world.
Accepting paying 150/ HR in the clubs while also paying entry doesn't make much sense to me considering you can get these same girls for 150 incall service or for that same rate at other types of venues throughout Europe without the substantially higher FKK entry costs.
At 150/ HR, guys willing to accept that rate would be better off window shopping in Amsterdam or going to ShowPark in Prague. An FKK's appeal has always been a large selection under one roof for a bargain price. Take away the price advantage and are people choosing to visit boring, uptight Germany over relaxed Spain, Netherlands, or Czech Republic?
If you're okay with these higher prices for FKK quality WGs, I think it's time to pause and evaluate if you're making the best purchase decision when you compare those rates to other options in the mongering world.But you don't go with the prettiest and most impressive looks who can deserve to pay more expensive rather than 50/30 for average looks. Beauties are always less expensive and better for me. More motivating.
BigBuddy69
09-27-21, 17:51
Accepting paying 150/ HR in the clubs while also paying entry doesn't make much sense to me considering you can get these same girls for 150 incall service or for that same rate at other types of venues throughout Europe without the substantially higher FKK entry costs.Pussies and addicts are unable to say "no".
But you don't go with the prettiest and most impressive looks who can deserve to pay more expensive rather than 50/30 for average looks. Beauties are always less expensive and better for me. More motivating.I've shared many of the same regulars as you such as GT Kate, Globe Kate, Megan, Ariana, Katea etc. Kity was fine. So my tastes are just on par with your standards. Some of us are just able to find great features in more than the same old rigid expectations day in and day out.
Want to pay 150/ HR, go to Amsterdam windows.
This is exactly the reason these tourist trap clubs go down the drain: as long as men accept paying more then the regular rate (50/30 or 100/60 minutes, including DFK an BBBJ), it will never go back to normal. If they change the offical rate to 100/30 150/60 ok, but as long as this is not the case, do yourself and other fellow mongers a favour and don't step into this Rumanian greedy sharks (trap!When you say "do yourself a favour" I can tell you that had I told every girl in Oase "NO I will not pay more than 100/60" I would not have been doing my dick a favour as the girls have banded together and have largely agreed its 150/60. That might be "unofficial" but to the girls its official. Whilst tourist trap clubs have closed? I am not aware of any.
Prices of goods and services change. I recall only too vividly the golden days of Samya when it was 50/30 then 25 euros for every extra 30 minutes. A total joy. But they changed it. Any guy then demanding a return to the old price would never have gotten a session.
Trap or not, its the new price. There are some unattractive girls who will offer 50/30 just to get their day rate. I don't want unattractive girls. I see nothing wrong with supply and demand. The better girls can charge more, the less pretty charge less and mongers choose what they want to pay. Simple. Prices all over Europe are increasing. They have gone up a lot in some parts of Spain (Madrid / Vive, Malaga / Scandalos). Germany is not exempt from economics. As happens I did manage to get Carla for 100/60 as you will have read from my report. But to "do myself a favour" (and others) had I needed to pay the 150 I would have done so. There is doing everyone a favour and then there is ignoring reality. Which is that in the main, prices have increased. Pain in the ass, but true and the number of guys demanding a return to the old pricing won't force it down. When Artemis went from 50/30 to 60/30 there was outcry. Now its 70/30 and BBBJ is 20 extra. Take it or leave it. And not too many leave it. As reported, Mainhattan is still at the old prices. Palace, Sharks and Oase mainly are not. And there is technically no "official" price. After the Artemis silly raid, the clubs are keen to prove that the girls are self-employed. As such, the club cannot force the prices on the girls. They are free to choose what they want to charge. They are now mainly choosing to charge 150/ hour. For anyone unwilling to pay. Don't go.
Accepting paying 150/ HR in the clubs while also paying entry doesn't make much sense to me considering you can get these same girls for 150 incall service or for that same rate at other types of venues throughout Europe without the substantially higher FKK entry costs.
At 150/ HR, guys willing to accept that rate would be better off window shopping in Amsterdam or going to ShowPark in Prague. An FKK's appeal has always been a large selection under one roof for a bargain price. Take away the price advantage and are people choosing to visit boring, uptight Germany over relaxed Spain, Netherlands, or Czech Republic?
If you're okay with these higher prices for FKK quality WGs, I think it's time to pause and evaluate if you're making the best purchase decision when you compare those rates to other options in the mongering world.With respect, you need to seriously get in line with the true prices in Spain. Which you quote as a comparator. I have been in Madrid, Malaga, Fuengirola and Campamento in the past 6 weeks. Madrid. Club Vive. No entry fee. Price of a drink for the girl in the bar. Minimum 50 euros. Take her to the room - 30 minutes not possible. Minimum one hour for 260. Miladys Palace Puerto Banus Marbella - 300/ hour and has been that way for over 10 years. Scandalos in Malaga. Three years ago it was 160/ hour. Now it is standard 250/ hour PLUS 30 euros for sheets for the bed! It's possible to negotiate 400/ hour. Only in E92 in Carajval is the price 150/ hour. Glass Palace Estepona - 200/ hour. London. Escort agencies. Leaving aside the very real possibly of bait and switch (girl looks stunning on website and arrives looking fatter and nothing like the girl in the pictures) prices start at 150 but more commonly now £200 or £300 for an hour.
I've only been to Prague once but thought the options were poor so did not return.
Amsterdam is a dangerous city. There is a whole network of thieves praying on guys who are not paying attention to their pockets / bags / money whilst looking in windows. Not the best environment.
FKK still represents the best mongering I've had (and I travel a lot including outside Europe). Ok the entry fee is there. But last Saturday I paid 50 e to enter Oase. Whilst I don't like the food there it is included, the facilities / pool / gardens / sauna / jacuzzi / professional massage (and I love the gym at Artemis and wish more FKKs had them)/ kino etc. You do not get any of those things in London / Spain / Amsterdam. No entry fee but nothing other than in, select from the parade, fuck and out. Overall, the whole FKK experience is not spoiled by prices going to 150/ hour which still represents decent value against other European (not Asian) options.
When you say "do yourself a favour" I can tell you that had I told every girl in Oase "NO I will not pay more than 100/60" I would not have been doing my dick a favour as the girls have banded together and have largely agreed its 150/60. That might be "unofficial" but to the girls its official. Whilst tourist trap clubs have closed? I am not aware of any. Prices of goods and services change. I recall only too vividly the golden days of Samya when it was 50/30 then 25 euros for every extra 30 minutes. A total joy. But they changed it. Any guy then demanding a return to the old price would never have gotten a session. Trap or not, its the new price. They are now mainly choosing to charge 150/ hour. For anyone unwilling to pay. Don't go.Blame the meddling politicos for enabling these greedy tutes! With the change in the law requiring CBJs, the standard price shot up immediately to 150 euros per hour. If you want a BBBJ, then this is what you must pay. The only way it could have been avoided is if mongers refused en masse, but they did not. Instead, they were weak and paid up! This is the reality.
When you say "do yourself a favour" I can tell you that had I told every girl in Oase "NO I will not pay more than 100/60" I would not have been doing my dick a favour as the girls have banded together and have largely agreed its 150/60. That might be "unofficial" but to the girls its official. Whilst tourist trap clubs have closed? I am not aware of any.
Prices of goods and services change. I recall only too vividly the golden days of Samya when it was 50/30 then 25 euros for every extra 30 minutes. A total joy. But they changed it. Any guy then demanding a return to the old price would never have gotten a session.
Trap or not, its the new price. There are some unattractive girls who will offer 50/30 just to get their day rate. I don't want unattractive girls. I see nothing wrong with supply and demand. The better girls can charge more, the less pretty charge less and mongers choose what they want to pay. Simple. Prices all over Europe are increasing. They have gone up a lot in some parts of Spain (Madrid / Vive, Malaga / Scandalos). Germany is not exempt from economics. As happens I did manage to get Carla for 100/60 as you will have read from my report. But to "do myself a favour" (and others) had I needed to pay the 150 I would have done so. There is doing everyone a favour and then there is ignoring reality. Which is that in the main, prices have increased. Pain in the ass, but true and the number of guys demanding a return to the old pricing won't force it down. When Artemis went from 50/30 to 60/30 there was outcry. Now its 70/30 and BBBJ is 20 extra. Take it or leave it. And not too many leave it. As reported, Mainhattan is still at the old prices. Palace, Sharks and Oase mainly are not. And there is technically no "official" price. After the Artemis silly raid, the clubs are keen to prove that the girls are self-employed. As such, the club cannot force the prices on the girls..I'm happy for you if you enjoyed your short tour. Better than CDS? I let grocery to others when I hate to speak about money with girls, I m just free to judge if worth or not.
BigBuddy69
09-27-21, 21:40
When you say "do yourself a favour" I can tell you that had I told every girl in Oase "NO I will not pay more than 100/60" I would not have been doing my dick a favour as the girls have banded together and have largely agreed its 150/60. That might be "unofficial" but to the girls its official. Whilst tourist trap clubs have closed? I am not aware of any.If every man does that, their union won't last long. They need your money more than you need their services.
Three years ago it was 160/ hour. Now it is standard 250/ hour PLUS 30 euros for sheets for the bed! It's possible to negotiate 400/ hour. Only in E92 in Carajval is the price 150/ hour.160 to 280 seems to be too steep of an increase over such a short period. Is there a historical precedent? Many older Germans used to tell me how Czech Rep back in the mid-1990's was a monger paradise. But I would say with the Czech Rep, the entire country as a whole became wealthier. I do not believe that to be the case in Spain. Perhaps sites like onlyfans are to blame?
Overall, the whole FKK experience is not spoiled by prices going to 150/ hour which still represents decent value against other European (not Asian) options.If we look at the German forums, we can see that the Offenbach agency Meine Perlen was charging 150 EUR per hour back in 2013. Some reports from summer 2021 suggest that Meine Perlen continues to charge 150 per hour. If Meine Perlen had adopted a 50 percent increase like Sharks, then we should be expecting them to charge 225 EUR per hour. Offenbach is only a 25 minute drive from Sharks. If prices in other areas of the local P6 market are not increasing, I cannot see how Sharks can increase its unofficial pricing and not lose its customer base like what is already being reported at Palace, Oase, Mainhattan. And as you and Arnold15 have reported, there has already been a slight (hopefully permanent) market correction at Mainhattan.
So I would say the value would be with privates in the vicinity of the FKK clubs, if one has the time, and is willing to suffer through the occasional bait-and-switch. But if more mongers migrate to privates, then we should see more field reports. With privates, field reports are more of an absolute requirement. With FKK, you can just show up, observe her at the money locker and strike up a conversation with a regular, and obviously see her in person, as opposed to doctored photos.
If every man does that, their union won't last long. They need your money more than you need their services.I don't disagree but then you must factor tourist value into that equation. If every local person who frequents in Germany did that maybe you would see them reduce. But the notion that someone (like me) funds flights, hotels, taxis, entrance fees, etc for a 3-5 day trip, costing well over €1500, is going to risk not having a single room other than with unattractive older or overweight girls, just to lend support to paying 100/60, is, respectfully, fanciful, and unrealistic. By the time a tourist has invested time, travel, these days the long list of administrative burdens, documents, locator forms, vaccination certificates, Mr tourist wants to have his monies worth and a lot of fun with pretty girls. And therefore making a hardened stance is just not worth it. I'm all for not paying over the top, and always negotiate, but without risking losing a room with a girl I really like. And then spending months if not longer wandering what she would have been like, and wishing I had been more willing to pay. I have been in that boat. Not nice and I now ensure I avoid it. If that means paying a bit more, so be it.
160 to 280 seems to be too steep of an increase over such a short period. Is there a historical precedent? Many older Germans used to tell me how Czech Rep back in the mid-1990's was a monger paradise. But I would say with the Czech Rep, the entire country as a whole became wealthier. I do not believe that to be the case in Spain. Perhaps sites like onlyfans are to blame?
If we look at the German forums, we can see that the Offenbach agency Meine Perlen was charging 150 EUR per hour back in 2013. Some reports from summer 2021 suggest that Meine Perlen continues to charge 150 per hour. If Meine Perlen had adopted a 50 percent increase like Sharks, then we should be expecting them to charge 225 EUR per hour. Offenbach is only a 25 minute drive from Sharks. If prices in other areas of the local P6 market are not increasing, I cannot see how Sharks can increase its unofficial pricing and not lose its customer base like what is already being reported at Palace, Oase, Mainhattan. And as you and Arnold15 have reported, there has already been a slight (hopefully permanent) market correction at Mainhattan.
So I would say the value would be with privates in the vicinity of the FKK clubs, if one has the time, and is willing to suffer through the occasional bait-and-switch. But if more mongers migrate to privates, then we should see more field reports. With privates, field reports are more of an absolute requirement. With FKK, you can just show up, observe her at the money locker and strike up a conversation with a regular, and obviously see her in person, as opposed to doctored photos.Your knowledge of those forums is far more superior to mine. But I doubt people will move to privates. For the reasons you provide. The fabulous choice in the flesh instead of bait and switch. And the rationale above about Sharks losing its customer base. Sorry - that is not happening. Just think of this. Out of the four clubs I visited this weekend, the worst on pricing was undoubtedly Sharks with some girls making crazy demands (Oase was not a long way behind though). And which of those four clubs was busiest with most men. You guessed it. Sharks - the most expensive club. The acid test is the line up. If the girls are pretty enough, the boys will come. With their cash and ready to spend it. Been proven many times over and very much what has happened in Madrid and Malaga in the last 12 months.
With respect, you need to seriously get in line with the true prices in Spain. Which you quote as a comparator. I have been in Madrid, Malaga, Fuengirola and Campamento in the past 6 weeks. Madrid. Club Vive. No entry fee. Price of a drink for the girl in the bar. Minimum 50 euros. Take her to the room - 30 minutes not possible. Minimum
I've only been to Prague once but thought the options were poor so did not return.
Amsterdam is a dangerous city. There is a whole network of thieves praying on guys who are not paying attention to their pockets / bags / money whilst looking in windows. Not the best environment.
Overall, the whole FKK experience is not spoiled by prices going to 150/ hour which still represents decent value against other European (not Asian) options.Difference of opinion regarding what the FKK experience is meant to be. They were set up as fuck fest establishments meant for fucking freely. That entails a large quantity of fucks under one roof. By raising the price to match outside vendors (the incall girl down the street for 150 e) well that defeats the point of an FKK sauna club and certainly take away from the true FKK experience.
So to my original point, incall / outcall rates should remain there and brothel rates should remain in the brothel range. Increase to 60/ half or 120/ HR to make up for inflation sure, but a club girl charging the same rate as an incall girl is absurd.
I've never mongered in those Spanish clubs so I'll plead ignorance and.
Take your word that those are the prices. But incalls in Spain are 150/ HR with girls who are above average FKK quality.
ShowPark in Prague rates are about 100 to 150 e per session and is set up like an indoor Amsterdam De Wallen. Quality is above average FKK quality.
If one feels comfortable enough to explore Frankfurt RLD buildings, De Wallen in Amsterdam is plenty safe. Then there are non-tourist RLDs like the Jordaan and Ruysdaelkade where you shouldn't see any thieves at all.
I've shared many of the same regulars as you such as GT Kate, Globe Kate, Megan, Ariana, Katea etc. Kity was fine. So my tastes are just on par with your standards. Some of us are just able to find great features in more than the same old rigid expectations day in and day out.
Want to pay 150/ HR, go to Amsterdam windows.Had many 100/60 good rooms on this Summer, even with German Daisi who was not the prettiest nor best in bed. Only 1 for 150 and I judged she did worth, compare to tattooed brunette close to German table and restaurant, or long time Cosmina, not same fresh look. Will You be at bottom of Verbier on Saturday? Or I have more interesting and difficult Mortirolo and Loze to be faster than 3 times world champion Sagan. After 3 Stelvio on last week end, body is a bit tired, but no anemia like on last Summer and passion is growing, I want my 25 highest ranked in 2 months for my great Summer. And my belly is so much better now.
If every man does that, their union won't last long. They need your money more than you need their services.
Blame the meddling politicos for enabling these greedy tutes! With the change in the law requiring CBJs, the standard price shot up immediately to 150 euros per hour. If you want a BBBJ, then this is what you must pay. The only way it could have been avoided is if mongers refused en masse, but they did not. Instead, they were weak and paid up! This is the reality.
So true, but since many men are weak, the accept willingly the price increase. If most men would refuse, the girls will adopt accordingly. In clubs where there are strict pricing rules (like in Babylon, RTCs, Globe, etc), a girl who bends the (pricing) rules too much, will be sent home. And yes, I rather pay the standard price of 140 CHF in Globe, and do NOT to have to negotiate with a girl, then have a nasty discussion with a girl in Sharks about 50 euro extra above the standard price. SO I don't care about the absolute price perse, but about having clear standard rules and pricing, to avoid any golddigger and princess bahviour (as commonly seen in Sharks, Oase, etc). And yes, of course the girls are "independent workers", but that is only true for the law as most of you guys know 😎.
I don't disagree but then you must factor tourist value into that equation. If every local person who frequents in Germany did that maybe you would see them reduce. But the notion that someone (like me) funds flights, hotels, taxis, entrance fees, etc for a 3-5 day trip, costing well over 1500, is going to risk not having a single room other than with unattractive older or overweight girls, just to lend support to paying 100/60, is, respectfully, fanciful, and unrealistic. By the time a tourist has invested time, travel, these days the long list of administrative burdens, documents, locator forms, vaccination certificates, Mr tourist wants to have his monies worth and a lot of fun with pretty girls. And therefore making a hardened stance is just not worth it. I'm all for not paying over the top, and always negotiate, but without risking losing a room with a girl I really like. And then spending months if not longer wandering what she would have been like, and wishing I had been more willing to pay. I have been in that boat. Not nice and I now ensure I avoid it. If that means paying a bit more, so be it.That's what I ment with tourist traps: in clubs with many (overseas) tourists, who were used to pay US $ 100 for only a lousy lapdance, they are willing to pay Euro 200 or more for sex, understandable. But it is one of the reasons many (larger) clubs in Germany the (service) quality of the girls decreased rapidly and the price increased. When ALL men would not accept this, the club would be empty, but a pity the flesh is weak.
So true, but since many men are weak, the accept willingly the price increase. If most men would refuse, the girls will adopt accordingly. In clubs where there are strict pricing rules (like in Babylon, RTCs, Globe, etc), a girl who bends the (pricing) rules too much, will be sent home. And yes, I rather pay the standard price of 140 CHF in Globe, and do NOT to have to negotiate with a girl, then have a nasty discussion with a girl in Sharks about 50 euro extra above the standard price. SO I don't care about the absolute price perse, but about having clear standard rules and pricing, to avoid any golddigger and princess bahviour (as commonly seen in Sharks, Oase, etc). And yes, of course the girls are "independent workers", but that is only true for the law as most of you guys know 😎.
That's what I ment with tourist traps: in clubs with many (overseas) tourists, who were used to pay US $ 100 for only a lousy lapdance, they are willing to pay Euro 200 or more for sex, understandable. But it is one of the reasons many (larger) clubs in Germany the (service) quality of the girls decreased rapidly and the price increased. When ALL men would not accept this, the club would be empty, but a pity the flesh is weak.Not many US or Asians in Hessen on 2021. What about paying 150/60 for a prettier and more fresh in bed girl than most Globe girls when you pay 260/60 for them? I don't care about Globe or Sharks, I just judge the girl level, but of course I m very happy I got a more elegant natural than Globe girls now for 100/60 for full GFE.
So true, but since many men are weak, the accept willingly the price increase. If most men would refuse, the girls will adopt accordingly. In clubs where there are strict pricing rules (like in Babylon, RTCs, Globe, etc), a girl who bends the (pricing) rules too much, will be sent home. And yes, I rather pay the standard price of 140 CHF in Globe, and do NOT to have to negotiate with a girl, then have a nasty discussion with a girl in Sharks about 50 euro extra above the standard price. SO I don't care about the absolute price perse, but about having clear standard rules and pricing, to avoid any golddigger and princess bahviour (as commonly seen in Sharks, Oase, etc). And yes, of course the girls are "independent workers", but that is only true for the law as most of you guys know 😎.
That's what I ment with tourist traps: in clubs with many (overseas) tourists, who were used to pay US $ 100 for only a lousy lapdance, they are willing to pay Euro 200 or more for sex, understandable. But it is one of the reasons many (larger) clubs in Germany the (service) quality of the girls decreased rapidly and the price increased. When ALL men would not accept this, the club would be empty, but a pity the flesh is weak.All perfectly valid points and well made. It is clear that you don't mind paying more (e. G. Globe) but you want clarity. A fixed price which is known, so that the girls don't barter and the awkward debate about money (which can kill the mood) is unnecessary. And I cannot argue about that. What is clear then is that the larger clubs should follow the rules of the smaller clubs and insist on fixed prices. I suppose they must worry then that girls might retaliate by maybe leaving the club and reporting it to the police that the club is really employing girls as it can control their price. Which it could not do if the girls were truly independent. But this doesn't seem to stop some clubs enforcing prices. All a bit of a mess. I have to say that the service I have had in Sharks and Oase over the years has been consistently good and on par with UK, Spain, Dubai. But it is dreaming to expect all men to follow one code. That very same problem is causing my favourite club in Malaga (New Scandalos) to become out of range for a lot of guys. Previously it was 160/ hour plus 10 e for sheets for the room. The clientele was from all over Europe and some US. Suddenly in the past year there is a huge influx of mainly very rich Moroccan guys (no problem with that per se) but they turn up in Ferraris etc and the prices jumped to 250/ hour plus 30 for sheets. I discussed with the (nice) management that this is killing the club for longstanding customers. Answer. Sorry but things change and now these prices are nothing to the new breed of clientele so why would we reduce? Charming. So your points are valid as there must be some risk of that being repeated in some clubs in Germany. I hope not.
All perfectly valid points and well made. So your points are valid as there must be some risk of that being repeated in some clubs in Germany. I hope not.Which means that my next trip to Germany very well may be my last. I don't care, since I will still have my number 1 Brazil, which as of now remains quite affordable for me.
All perfectly valid points and well made. It is clear that you don't mind paying more (e. G. Globe) but you want clarity. A fixed price which is known, so that the girls don't barter and the awkward debate about money (which can kill the mood) is unnecessary. Indeed, that is my main concern: it kills the mood enormously to have a debate about money with the girl you just fucked (or worse: are about to fuck).
In the end, it is a market of supply and demand, so if in Hessen a correct price is Euro 100/30 or 150/60, ok, but make it a rule then, and no more discussion.
Want to go to Spain also to visit a club, is it still worthwihle (giving looks and service of the girls)? Better then Germany and even CH or on par or worse?
Steve 9696
09-28-21, 14:24
It's like clockwork that the price debate will come up every few weeks it seems. If we put aside for a second what the supposed "right" price is, why do people continuously argue that there should be one fixed price for all girls — the top and the bottom — all priced the same?
We surely don't argue this in other markets. Luxury goods command a premium and common goods a lesser price. Would we really argue that a luxury Mercedes should be priced the same as a common Volkswagen? Sure it would be nice. And much nicer for those that can't afford a nice Mercedes normally, than for those that can. But it makes no sense. Everyone would buy the Mercedes leading to a shortage (or they would go sell in markets willing to pay a premium) and poor Volkswagen would never sell any cars. With a price difference both will sell cars and everyone at least gets something that fits their budget. (And sure the Volkswagen owners will be envious. Welcome to the world!
I guess I am a capitalist at heart and have the funds to buy the Mercedes (though I don't own one) but the above makes sense to me. Where is the logic flaw when applied to FKK.
It's like clockwork that the price debate will come up every few weeks it seems. If we put aside for a second what the supposed "right" price is, why do people continuously argue that there should be one fixed price for all girls the top and the bottom all priced the same?Because that has been the FKK model for decades, price transparency and at a bargain, very German.
Resisting the change, a 150% to 200% change, especially those being touted by foreigners in another man's land would be perfectly expected and warranted.
Mathias037
09-28-21, 15:19
It's like clockwork that the price debate will come up every few weeks it seems. If we put aside for a second what the supposed "right" price is, why do people continuously argue that there should be one fixed price for all girls the top and the bottom all priced the same?You addressed a very essence of German, or Central European mindset. Of course, we accept the fact that fancier things cost more than less fancy. But that does not prevent us from hating price discussions, bargaining, haggling. When we are buying apples on the market, we want a clear price tag. We don't want to live in the society where everything, from said apples to logging prices, to whatever else depends on our negotiating skills. Of course, there are better and word apples, but then put one in the first basked and others in the other one. And mark the first one 5 EUR per kilo and the second one 2 EUR per kilo, does not matter, but we want to know how much is it.
Now consider a FKK sauna club as a place of relaxation, pure enjoy and carelessness. One of the first things we don't want in such a place is to negotiate for a price. The best times in our clubs was in early 2000, when Polish girls mostly prevailed. Then Romanians came, and the fixed price structure started to break down. Nov, after Covid, it is even worse.
So, how do you think to make your system work? One solution could be to have more categories of clubs, which is in fact already in place. So Sharks, Oase and Palace would be Group A (180 EUR / hour), Artemis, Living Rooms, Goldentime Group be (120 EUR / hour) and some clubs in Offenbach or elsewhere Group see (80/ hour).
The second approach could be girls wearing colored bracelets. Top girls black, medium yellow and the cheapest green. Let's call it Jamaika scheme.
Any other ideas?
Of course it is ok to pay more for a Mercedes then for a Dacia (is it coincidence it is from Romania? 😎, and with material goods it is also ok to do some negotation, both on the Merc as on the Dacia!
However, FKK tries to sell us an physical / emotional illusion, and negotiation of a price is not part of that illusion (it even takes it away, at least for me). The fact that you sit next to a beautiful girl, kiss her, go to have sex, and only AFTER all of that, you pay her (the standard, non-negotiated price), is much better for the illusion then first hassling about price (or even worse: pay in advance), etc.
Some DFK pre-sales in the bar is certainly also part of that illusion (happens rarely anymore in the tourist clubs, happily still done in the real service clubs). In some clubs (Babylon, Bernds, etc), you did NOT pay the girls directly, but at the end of the day to the club, so no direct financial transaction between you and the girls, that made the illusion even stronger! Pity that is not possibly anymore (because of legal reasons).
A system where girls wear colored armwrests, with indicates the included standard service (DFK, BBBJ, etc) and the price level, would be a good idea. Then you can sit next to a girl with the right color for you and go for it! Especially if the girls with lower colored service try to improve (to earn more) or leave!
All perfectly valid points and well made. It is clear that you don't mind paying more (e. G. Globe) but you want clarity. A fixed price which is known, so that the girls don't barter and the awkward debate about money (which can kill the mood) is unnecessary. And I cannot argue about that. What is clear then is that the larger clubs should follow the rules of the smaller clubs and insist on fixed prices. I suppose they must worry then that girls might retaliate by maybe leaving the club and reporting it to the police that the club is really employing girls as it can control their price. Which it could not do if the girls were truly independent. But this doesn't seem to stop some clubs enforcing prices. All a bit of a mess. I have to say that the service I have had in Sharks and Oase over the years has been consistently good and on par with UK, Spain, Dubai. But it is dreaming to expect all men to follow one code. That very same problem is causing my favourite club in Malaga (New Scandalos) to become out of range for a lot of guys. Previously it was 160/ hour plus 10 e for sheets for the room. The clientele was from all over Europe and some US. Suddenly in the past year there is a huge influx of mainly very rich Moroccan guys (no problem with that per se) but they turn up in Ferraris etc and the prices jumped to 250/ hour plus 30 for sheets. I discussed with the (nice) management that this is killing the club for longstanding customers. Answer. Sorry but things change and now these prices are nothing to the new breed of clientele so why would we reduce? Charming. So your points are valid as there must be some risk of that being repeated in some clubs in Germany. I hope not.I don't agree to pay Globe rate for now average looks even Zurich is expensive. I prefer to pay 100/60 but can pay 150 for high level in bed very beautiful in Germany rather than 260/60 for porn dolls average looks at Globe. Anywhere, Vanquish will always worth more expensive than Prius for me, when I don t care about club, but only girl with who I have pleasure.
Steve 9696
09-28-21, 16:07
You addressed a very essence of German, or Central European mindset. Of course, we accept the fact that fancier things cost more than less fancy. But that does not prevent us from hating price discussions, bargaining, haggling. When we are buying apples on the market, we want a clear price tag. We don't want to live in the society where everything, from said apples to logging prices, to whatever else depends on our negotiating skills. Of course, there are better and word apples, but then put one in the first basked and others in the other one. And mark the first one 5 EUR per kilo and the second one 2 EUR per kilo, does not matter, but we want to know how much is it.
Now consider a FKK sauna club as a place of relaxation, pure enjoy and carelessness. One of the first things we don't want in such a place is to negotiate for a price. The best times in our clubs was in early 2000, when Polish girls mostly prevailed. Then Romanians came, and the fixed price structure started to break down. Nov, after Covid, it is even worse.
So, how do you think to make your system work? One solution could be to have more categories of clubs, which is in fact already in place. So Sharks, Oase and Palace would be Group A (180 EUR / hour), Artemis, Living Rooms, Goldentime Group be (120 EUR / hour) and some clubs in Offenbach or elsewhere Group see (80/ hour).
The second approach could be girls wearing colored bracelets. Top girls black, medium yellow and the cheapest green. Let's call it Jamaika scheme.
Any other ideas?You make some great points and I like your apples analogy and agree fixed price is much better than negotiating — and honestly I have an easier time telling and apple vendor his apples are overpriced than telling a girl her pussy isn't worth €100! LOL.
You are right that having different clubs accomplishes this to some extent. We all know Globe is premium. And it looks like Scandallo on the CDS is headed that way. And perhaps Sharks to some extent as well and thus the consternation.
The wrist bands would be so great. Don't have the coin for the black belt? Take the yellow belt instead. No guessing. No negotiation. Would be great to have a "price" wristband on one arm and a "performance" wrist band on the other arm. You can now decide based off her looks, price, and performance at a glance. Guessing I'm just dreaming but that sounds perfect.
You make some great points and I like your apples analogy and agree fixed price is much better than negotiating and honestly I have an easier time telling and apple vendor his apples are overpriced than telling a girl her pussy isn't worth 100! LOL.
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You are right that having different clubs accomplishes this to some extent. We all know Globe is premium. And it looks like Scandallo on the CDS is headed that way. And perhaps Sharks to some extent as well and thus the consternation.
The wrist bands would be so great. Don't have the coin for the black belt? Take the yellow belt instead. No guessing. No negotiation. Would be great to have a "price" wristband on one arm and a "performance" wrist band on the other arm. You can now decide based off her looks, price, and performance at a glance. Guessing I'm just dreaming but that sounds perfect.But think about it from the girls' point of view though. Do you think that they want to walk around with different colored wristbands indicating that some of them are "luxury" while others are cheap "beaters"? May work well with inanimate objects like cars, but not so much with people with emotions and feelings looking to compete for business and make some money.
The wrist bands would be so great. Don't have the coin for the black belt? Take the yellow belt instead. No guessing. No negotiation. Would be great to have a "price" wristband on one arm and a "performance" wrist band on the other arm. You can now decide based off her looks, price, and performance at a glance. Guessing I'm just dreaming but that sounds perfect.Would be curious to see a real world environment where western women would be willing to dorn a garmet that tags her as being worth less than the girl standing right next to her.
I would like to be able to walk out early and pay a cheaper standard price. Do people do that? I remember reading someone has done that. Usually, I am reminding myself of what I agreed upfront.
Neurosynth
09-28-21, 21:08
The best times in our clubs was in early 2000, when Polish girls mostly prevailed.God I miss the Polish girls. The opposite of stereotypes the inexperienced imagine. Some super hot. Almost all *very* affectionate. Also lots of blonds and pale skin.
God I miss the Polish girls. The opposite of stereotypes the inexperienced imagine. Some super hot. Almost all *very* affectionate. Also lots of blonds and pale skin.Also miss those blonde Polish girls who used to work the clubs when I first started patronizing them. Sigh!
The acid test is the line up. If the girls are pretty enough, the boys will come. With their cash and ready to spend it. Been proven many times over and very much what has happened in Madrid and Malaga in the last 12 months.Mongers who post to forums are the one percent Mongers. We prioritize mongering. And in general, "pretty girls" are significantly more important to us than they are to casual mongers.
As many have noted Sylvana is busier than half of the WGs at Sharks, but I think most would agree she is not in the top 50 percent of optics, unless one just has a GILF fetish. Optics may be everything to us. Not necessarily true for the casual mongers.
Most mongers do zero research and are not plugged into the hardcore monger newscycle. They tag along to the FKK club because it is a boys night out. Many casual mongers will just attend whatever club they are accustomed to based on intel they received two years ago, unaware that another club recently got a busload of fresh new beauties from Romania. Or another club currently has more favorable pricing. Whereas hardcore mongers will read a report on Thursday night about a "20 year old German top optic" debuting at a club and then drive 200-500 km and be in attendance Friday night.
And the rationale above about Sharks losing its customer base. Sorry - that is not happening. Just think of this. Out of the four clubs I visited this weekend, the worst on pricing was undoubtedly Sharks with some girls making crazy demands (Oase was not a long way behind though). And which of those four clubs was busiest with most men. You guessed it. Sharks - the most expensive club. Back in 2013, Oase was the undisputed king of Hessen. Between 2012-2014, Sharks was empty. When upselling spread like a cancer at Oase, the mongers slowly migrated to Sharks over the course of 3-5 years. What makes you think history could not repeat itself and a competing Hessen club could take the crown back?
Again, a lot of these young bearded guys I would guess have a social life. They are not middle-aged bachelors who spend all day reading sex forums. These guys are not aware that market conditions have improved at Mainhattan (based on recent reports from two mongers). They may not even be aware that there exists a club on the east end of Frankfurt called Mainhattan (because Mainhattan does not have Sharks' advertising budget). Hardcore mongers read the forum everyday and monitor developments in real-time. So yes, it is quite possible that many hardcore optics-oriented mongers gravitate to Sharks for the reasons you stated: the best optics of fall 2021. But the casual mongers that are currently gravitating to Sharks? It is quite possible that Sharks captures their business based on the brand name and reputation that they established in 2016-2017 as the premier mongering destination in Hessen.
Mongers who post to forums are the one percent Mongers. We prioritize mongering. And in general, "pretty girls" are significantly more important to us than they are to casual mongers.
Back in 2013, Oase was the undisputed king of Hessen. Between 2012-2014, Sharks was empty. When upselling spread like a cancer at Oase, the mongers slowly migrated to Sharks over the course of 3-5 years. What makes you think history could not repeat itself and a competing Hessen club could take the crown back?
Again, a lot of these young bearded guys I would guess have a social life. They are not middle-aged bachelors who spend all day reading sex forums. These guys are not aware that market conditions have improved at Mainhattan (based onI share your assessment that both the forum here does not paint the entire picture and that the market is in flux.
Sharks has benefited from being the only major show in town this past summer with the most girls and thus the most clients. This led to a positive feedback situation where as word got out that Sharks was busy, more girls from other clubs migrated to Sharks, which led to more clients. Add the scarcity of girls currently working and you get the current situation at Sharks.
But on closer inspection, the young "bearded" clients dominate the scene. They are hardly the biggest spenders which leads me to believe that this level of pricing cannot sustain itself. Girls themselves complain that they aren't making any money despite a packed room of men. You can even see girls leaving as the late night crowds arrive. It's not a question of if, but when, many girls explore other venues.
Add that Sharks management openly refuses to cater to the Middle Eastern vibe (not changing the music, not allowing Shisha,) the market is open for other clubs to seize the party crowd looking for a different ambiance. Just before COVID, the clientele in discussion packed Oase, filled the lounge with Shisha, the girls there partied with them, etc. The same scene has not been replicated at Sharks to keep these guys coming indefinitely. The recent good reports of Mainhattan suggests that girls are adapting or perhaps even forced to adapt by the management of other clubs. It's inevitable that the crowds will tire of visiting the same club and will surely explore other venues. If these clubs provide a more catering ambiance where the girls charge more competitive prices, well, we can see a market rebalance.
Now this will rely on a large influx of girls returning to Germany to supply competing clubs, which is possible that we may not ever see.
Point is, I will not judge the future of the FKK scene and the pricing structure based on current market conditions. Too much is in flux and from what I've noticed, both Germans and Romanians are slow to adapt. Point is, it's a bit too early to make declarations that what we are observing in Hessen will be the situation 6 months from now. Hell, it's possible that an Alpha Zulu variant can come along and shut the whole damn thing down again and we're back at square one.
Steve 9696
09-29-21, 04:02
But think about it from the girls' point of view though. Do you think that they want to walk around with different colored wristbands indicating that some of them are "luxury" while others are cheap "beaters"? May work well with inanimate objects like cars, but not so much with people with emotions and feelings looking to compete for business and make some money.Not so sure I agree. I think the girls already completely know the hierarchy and who the top girls are versus second tier etc. They've known since middle school. And yet the second tier girls are asked to hold the line on price and charge same as top tier girls. And by supporting the cartel they are under cutting their ability to make proper money. Let the top girls have the whales. Let the second tier girls have the dolphins.
Guess it's all a scholastic argument anyhow. I'll just keep going and pay what I pay. And others what they pay and then we'll argue about it and fuck some more anyhow. LOL.
TankTank123
09-29-21, 05:05
Back in 2013, Oase was the undisputed king of Hessen. Between 2012-2014, Sharks was empty. When upselling spread like a cancer at Oase, the mongers slowly migrated to Sharks over the course of 3-5 years. While upselling could be a reason, I think the rapid increase in Sharks customers at that time was due to 2 other reasons. Firstly, Oase after the building expansion decided to recoup money through the restaurant by limiting to one free meal. The girls who lived-in took breakfast as they were hungry when they woke up, which meant that they had to spend money on dinner. They were also being compulsorily charged for wifi. Some girls told me that they had thus to upsell to try to cover the increased costs. Many Oase girls and their customers flocked to Sharks as a result of the meal constraint. I for one grew tired of having pasta/pizza every evening.
Secondly, World started micromanaging the working time of their girls. Many of them then flocked to Sharks The shortage of girls in World then resulted in even tighter schedule controls leading to more departures. With the ever depleting line up, a large number of World customers switched to Sharks as their primary club. There were days with almost 200 girls in Sharks, and with such competition, upselling was not possible.
Some time later Oase went back to unlimited free meals, while World introduced slightly more flexibility for the girls, but the damage had been done, and they could not stop the growth of Sharks. Of course, one cannot foreclose Sharks doing something stupid in the future.
Foods were always free since I discovered Oase on end of June 2014. Only pizzas were not free but became on 2019. On 2015, regular girls started to upsell and level fell except on 2019 when Oase was my best casting seen, but new beauties didn't stay for long. Sharks had only around 40 girls when I discovered on February 2014 and nothing exceptional, more numerous and prettier girls at World until June 2014. Isabella moved from Oase on 2013 to Sharks on beginning of 2014 then World on April until June when she disappeared of Hessen. On 2015 , World started to fall, same for Oase and Sharks started to grow, but not so many World or Oase girls moved to Sharks. Since then, business is at Sharks, long time Oase girls killing upselling their business even few can get good business, but most often empty except taking sun in the garden. When 100 girls at World on Saturdays 2010/2011, around 200 on some Fridays / Saturdays on end of 2016/2017 at Sharks. Less after. After emptying balls, business don't seem so exceptional on September at Sharks, maybe why casting fell, but had really good visits on this Summer with many for 100/60 rooms and never heard about 200. Casting was low on my 2 Oase visits.
Not so sure I agree. I think the girls already completely know the hierarchy and who the top girls are versus second tier etc. They've known since middle school. And yet the second tier girls are asked to hold the line on price and charge same as top tier girls. And by supporting the cartel they are under cutting their ability to make proper money. Let the top girls have the whales. Let the second tier girls have the dolphins.
Guess it's all a scholastic argument anyhow. I'll just keep going and pay what I pay. And others what they pay and then we'll argue about it and fuck some more anyhow. LOL.It's not what the girls know Steve. It's how that knowledge is presented to other people and the world around them. There may be some informal "pricing order," but how is that being made known to buyers? I think Mursenary has the correct understanding of human emotion here. It's not what the girls know. It's what the mongers know, and how they found that out. By one girl announcing she's a cheap piece of ass while another announces she's prime pussy? Maybe some mongers would like that, but I don't believe most women would.
While upselling could be a reason, I think the rapid increase in Sharks customers at that time was due to 2 other reasons. Firstly, Oase after the building expansion decided to recoup money through the restaurant by limiting to one free meal. The girls who lived-in took breakfast as they were hungry when they woke up, which meant that they had to spend money on dinner. They were also being compulsorily charged for wifi. Some girls told me that they had thus to upsell to try to cover the increased costs. Many Oase girls and their customers flocked to Sharks as a result of the meal constraint. I for one grew tired of having pasta/pizza every evening. Secondly, World started micromanaging the working time of their girls. Many of them then flocked to Sharks The shortage of girls in World then resulted in even tighter schedule controls leading to more departures. With the ever depleting line up, a large number of World customers switched to Sharks as their primary club.Thanks for the background TBH I may have converted from Oase to Sharks before all these developments.
All the WGs I went with at Sharks were from smaller regional clubs or fresh-off the bus. The WGs who had large followings were Sandra, Roxana, and I think Mandy came 1-2 years later. I never went with them, but to my knowledge, Sharks was their first Hessen big-five club. Had they been refugees from another club, any one of them could bring 50+ customers with them. Off-topic but, I remember a time when Roxana barely knew English, so that was definitely the period before the English-speaking tourists arrived.
Oase management gave WGs carte blanche to shark with impunity. Surely that extra 200 EUR of earnings per day offsets paying for wifi and a dinner? I believe I soured on Oase around 2014 or earlier. During 2015 and 2016, I may have only attended Oase 1-2 times a year. And the last time I set foot in Oase was definitely before the 2017 laws. The crowds continued and the sharking intensified, even after I stopped attending, based on what I heard and read.
But on closer inspection, the young "bearded" clients dominate the scene. They are hardly the biggest spenders which leads me to believe that this level of pricing cannot sustain itself. Girls themselves complain that they aren't making any money despite a packed room of men.Despite seeing the club packed to capacity, I did not notice room waits or WGs long-rooming whales. But to be fair, I have not logged many visits during the pandemic era.
I know I am doing less rooms at Sharks. In 2014, I was consistently doing 3-4 rooms every visit. By 2018-2019, I was doing 1-2 rooms. My net worth and income increased, yet my total spend was cut in half. Point is when I see value, I spend more. When I don't, I buy only what I need (1-2 pops).
Returning back to the present: even if mongers are rooming less, just the fact that the club is full, offers the WGs hope, and it gives them the confidence to stick to their 150 per 60 min pricing. When you offer legacy pricing of 100 for 60 minutes or 200 for 120 minutes, she could brush you off (especially if you are not the type who logs 80 visits per year or she does not recognize you as someone who has exhibited whale behavior with other WG). Because all she sees is a club full of men, and the possibility that she can catch a bigger fish than you. These WGs are eternally optimistic, just watch how many get addicted to gambling on those slot machines: she's convinced that she will hit the jackpot today, but she won't be able to catch her whale if she lets you occupy her time!
You can even see girls leaving as the late night crowds arrive. It's not a question of if, but when, many girls explore other venues.Esther and Ivonna are currently advertising on Ladies in Darmstadt as privates. Whether it be inside the club or as privates, I imagine that some WGs prefer doing three one-hour rooms for 450 as opposed to 5-6 one hour rooms for 500-600. Yes, their total take-home would be less, but it's the WG equivalent of work-life balance and prevents mental and physical burnout. And ofc, there is the satisfaction that they are not "lowering their value."
Esther and Ivonna are currently advertising on Ladies in Darmstadt as privates. Whether it be inside the club or as privates, I imagine that some WGs prefer doing three one-hour rooms for 450 as opposed to 5-6 one hour rooms for 500-600. Yes, their total take-home would be less, but it's the WG equivalent of work-life balance and prevents mental and physical burnout. And ofc, there is the satisfaction that they are not "lowering their value."Which brings me back to my main point, if girls want to charge incall rates, let them do that in private venues. In the club, you're in a general-use room that's rented by the 30 minutes. You can see the girl you roomed with fucking a half dozen dudes after you. She's providing a common-property / general-use experience due to the lack of an exclusive / private atmosphere.
Why should one pay private prices for a common property / general use experience? Furthermore, in the clubs, the girls are provided safety and a social atmosphere for some semblance of mental health. In privates, they are working in solitude and risk meeting a dangerous / violent client. The higher rates would help assuage the threat to personal safety such as a client taking their money while still sexually having their way with them (actual realities of the girls working hotel rooms and privates).
So fuck that. I'm not a Cheap Charlie, but I sure as hell am not a fan of not getting a good deal.
Ester was not anymore busy on Sharks reopening, even plenty full painful balls. She was at Sharks since IAA 2015.
Ester was not anymore busy on Sharks reopening, even plenty full painful balls. She was at Sharks since IAA 2015.I last saw Esther at Sharks in March last year the day before they closed. There were very few people in the club but she was very busy. Her looks had been deteriorating over the years and she augmented her breasts and lips which did not seem to help her.
I last saw Esther at Sharks in March last year the day before they closed. There were very few people in the club but she was very busy. Her looks had been deteriorating over the years and she augmented her breasts and lips which did not seem to help her.What about her blond business sister who was prettier model type when she started at Sharks but put silicon balloons and duck lips. I wonder who are their models to put themselves becoming so ugly like this, when Kardashian may be a model to have a fat ass. Ester and her business sister were a bit at Sharks on July, but business changed, less Asians, and after emptying painful balls, quite slow business on my visits on September. And what will happen when no more fast test on October. At Dusseldorf airport, usually crowded with Turkish until 4 or 5 am, running to girls at the end, but on Thursday night, usually quite crowded, empty at 2 am, only 1 survivor, me, they asked me to leave when I woke up at 2.30 am, no more girl, nobody else when I was ready to eat but no more foods and to try to find a beauty even the new fresh prettiest was just 0 in bed, waste of 50 for me for 40 mn I tried, at least she seemed OK I gave her 50, but can't take inside a normal and hard with blood pressure, not a spaghetti, size. Fortunately, got elsewhere before a pretty girl who is a real kisser, I think she could kiss me for hours, I liked.
What about her blond business sister who was prettier model type when she started at Sharks but put silicon balloons and duck lips. I wonder who are their models to put themselves becoming so ugly like this.....I am surprised you never made love to Ester when she first started working at Sharks. She was a beauty back then and available when she was not Asian hunting.
Neurosynth
10-04-21, 00:23
I am surprised you never made love to Ester when she first started working at Sharks.Wait. You think you're making love?
Wait. You think you're making love?Sirioja is! 😎.
I am surprised you never made love to Ester when she first started working at Sharks. She was a beauty back then and available when she was not Asian hunting.I had Ester when she just arrived at Sharks on IAA 2015 from Wurzburg, without silicon nor acid, lovely girl but no wow in bed for me and lack of charm and quite average face for my eyes compare to Karolina. Pol, Agnes. Pol, Karin, Megan who arrived from Mainhattan. I never respected my promise to repeat but she remained smiling. Lovely behavior, sweet girl, but sad to see how in this business, girls can change, like her business sister, or Roxana who was a star before silicon, not anymore after. At least Ester remained nice behavior, when some change behavior under business. I saw her on July, but business changed at Sharks, even few Asians yesterday, 1 buying a bottle with a small Romanian.
Wait. You think you're making love?There is a little difference between love in bed, I remember Kati at Oase on April 2019 telling: too much love for sex with you, and loving a girl. Just have to be able to understand. Not most of German WGs telling: I don't sell love, just killing desire for me.
Not so sure I agree. I think the girls already completely know the hierarchy and who the top girls are versus second tier etc.Not exactly. Beauty is still largely subjective. While there are certainly "1st tier" women out there most men would choose, there are still plenty of other "2nd tier" women out there in high demand because someone finds them "1st tier. " One man's trash is another man's treasure.
I saw a few women in Oase who I wouldn't bone for free, and someone wanted them. Furthermore I've repeated women who were never picked by anyone else throughout the whole day. Not one single person wanted them. (There were "Brazilians" with a big ass which doesn't exactly meet the typical European standards of beauty).
Women don't necessarily charge based on who is "1st or 2nd tier," they charge on the fact that it's you who wants them. Meaning there were other women but you specifically chose them. Also known as supply and demand. There could be 50 women in the club but you're only going to want maybe 7, and your body might only allow you to shag 4.
Neurosynth
10-13-21, 02:46
There is a little difference between love in bed, I remember Kati at Oase on April 2019 telling: too much love for sex with you, and loving a girl. Just have to be able to understand. Not most of German WGs telling: I don't sell love, just killing desire for me.Maybe you should write your posts in your native language, and then let the computer translate it into English.
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BigBuddy69
10-13-21, 05:51
If what someone told me is correct, it would make no difference as his posts in the French website were equally disjointed. (No longer verifiable; he had been banned from that website as he himself stated.).The posts are still there. They became more and more nonsensical as time passed by.
I remember when I started to write there on 2013, claimed specialists but you can't help laughing when seeing them for real, became so mad jealous reading my weekly reports about my week ends, when at this time I had also Russian escorts after work during week, 14 met on July 2014 when I was in Hessen on every week ends. I was never jealous about guys I know who are almost every day in clubs. I only care about me, not others.
Maybe you should write your posts in your native language, and then let the computer translate it into English.I write here only because in English, relaxing me, most often when driving.
Neurosynth
10-17-21, 00:12
I write here only because in English, relaxing me, most often when driving.I guess we're lucky then because we won't be mangled in a horrific car accident.
Delta Indigo
10-18-21, 06:36
I went to Oase on Saturday and the upselling is roughly equivalent to Sharks. Many girls will quote you 100/30 or 150/60 but may accept less. I countered 100/60 and the girl immediately accepted.
The place looks tiny compared to Sharks, I hadn't been here in a while. In 2017, I thought the lineup in Oase had far more stunners than Sharks and was the best in Germany of any club I had seen.
This is no longer the case and the lineup is far from impressive. When I went to Sharks there was an immediate wow effect, not at Oase. Also less than 15% of girls were bottom less compared to well over 60% at Sharks. I prefer fully nude clubs.
I am going to skip this club for a full years. I prefer to contend with the upselling at Sharks and will check out World again. I did not find Oase impressive, the lineup at Sharks was far more impressive.
Oase was best casting for me in 2019, April was just exceptional and September was also really good, better than Sharks and even Globe which already started to fall, but unfortunately new beauties don t stay for long because slow business because long time girls upselling killed business after fucking clients. Shisha lounge at night but rooms are often empty. Pity when I like the club. Disappointed by looks on my July and August visits when used to have pretty girls in this club. Not impressed by Shiva, really not slim enough for me even I like round ass but not fat. She should have success with Balkanians.
I went to Oase on Saturday and the upselling is roughly equivalent to Sharks. Many girls will quote you 100/30 or 150/60 but may accept less. I countered 100/60 and the girl immediately accepted.
The place looks tiny compared to Sharks, I hadn't been here in a while. In 2017, I thought the lineup in Oase had far more stunners than Sharks and was the best in Germany of any club I had seen.
This is no longer the case and the lineup is far from impressive. When I went to Sharks there was an immediate wow effect, not at Oase. Also less than 15% of girls were bottom less compared to well over 60% at Sharks. I prefer fully nude clubs.
I am going to skip this club for a full years. I prefer to contend with the upselling at Sharks and will check out World again. I did not find Oase impressive, the lineup at Sharks was far more impressive.World and Oase are, as you know, near enough to each other to check both out on one day. And World entry is only 10 euro so little risk. You will definitely find decent service at 60430 and 120460 at World, although the Sharks / Oase scamming (or as some might put it, market forces) are seeping even into there.
World and Oase are, as you know, near enough to each other to check both out on one day. And World entry is only 10 euro so little risk. You will definitely find decent service at 60430 and 120460 at World, although the Sharks / Oase scamming (or as some might put it, market forces) are seeping even into there.Got many rooms at Sharks for only 100/60, 3 excellent with elegant beauty with no tattoo nor silicon nor acid nor Botox nor even hair extensions, light make up, beautiful green eyes, a miracle. Heavier make up, but also elegant miracle at 6 sens NL for also full GFE 100/60. Each one own experience.
World and Oase are, as you know, near enough to each other to check both out on one day. And World entry is only 10 euro so little risk. You will definitely find decent service at 60430 and 120460 at World, although the Sharks / Oase scamming (or as some might put it, market forces) are seeping even into there.Do clubs like Oase allow you to leave an come back in the same day without paying for re-entry? Is it OK to hit Oase then leave to head up to World and if World is not to my liking I can come back in at Oase same day without paying entry again?
Do clubs like Oase allow you to leave an come back in the same day without paying for re-entry? Is it OK to hit Oase then leave to head up to World and if World is not to my liking I can come back in at Oase same day without paying entry again?Never known it to be a problem in any club. Check detailed procedure with the Thekefrau.
Do clubs like Oase allow you to leave an come back in the same day without paying for re-entry? Is it OK to hit Oase then leave to head up to World and if World is not to my liking I can come back in at Oase same day without paying entry again?They will say it is OK if you are back within maybe maximum 2 hours. 3 if you are very lucky. Anything more than that you can forget about.
Or perhaps it depends on the receptionist working shift. They don't want you to return when there is a new person in the reception.
They will say it is OK if you are back within maybe maximum 2 hours. 3 if you are very lucky. Anything more than that you can forget about.I have had absolutely zero problems of leaving and returning later at Oase at a time of my choosing. Never ever has the reception imposed any arbitrary time frame for my return. Just state your intention to return at the reception.
I you want to be absolutely sure call ahead and ask.
I've done numerous times in sharks for 6-8 hours and all I needed was to remember my locker number. Never a problem there. It was a more complicated procedure in Oase and they did some work on my wrist band and I was allowed to come back after a business meeting for 4 hours.
They will say it is OK if you are back within maybe maximum 2 hours. 3 if you are very lucky. Anything more than that you can forget about.
Do clubs like Oase allow you to leave an come back in the same day without paying for re-entry? Is it OK to hit Oase then leave to head up to World and if World is not to my liking I can come back in at Oase same day without paying entry again?At Oase, before you leave, you need to tell receptionist that you would be back. She will then write something and put it on your wrist band. I never have any issues. One time, I have to leave twice. Some zoom meeting or phone call, you know.
At sharks, they will ask you to remember your locker number and when you come back, just inform them that you were here early and your locker number is xxxx. No problem at all.
At Oase, before you leave, you need to tell receptionist that you would be back. She will then write something and put it on your wrist band. I never have any issues. One time, I have to leave twice. Some zoom meeting or phone call, you know.
At sharks, they will ask you to remember your locker number and when you come back, just inform them that you were here early and your locker number is xxxx. No problem at all.Thanks everyone!
Thanks everyone!Good luck. Be sure to check the exact procedure on the day as you enter. Including whether or not you need to empty your locker or not. If I'm going to be out several hours then I would want to check the length of time is OK, and would prefer a written note from the reception.
I've done numerous times in sharks for 6-8 hours and all I needed was to remember my locker number. Never a problem there. It was a more complicated procedure in Oase and they did some work on my wrist band and I was allowed to come back after a business meeting for 4 hours.Ok, I have never received a no at any clubs. Oase, sharks, oceans or aca. I believe those are the only onces I've asked about this. But they don't like the question voiced at any club, so they try to argue against it. I believe one of the receptionists at Acapulco was the only one giving me somewhat of a upper limit of this. One of the other clubs, the receptionist said it was ok as long as I came back before the end of her shift. That was at Oceans I think, and I believe I got some of the same response at either Oase or sharks once too.
Reef LostCause
10-20-21, 18:34
the girl on reception is usually frosty (depends who but the one with the Mickey Mouse Bob haircut is not friendly).Actually, she's made a lot of progress lately, at least with me.
Before COVID, she used to ask me every f_cking time "First time here? To which I invariably replied "First time since the last time you asked me that".
Last weekend, she messed up calling a taxi for me and offered me a drink while I waited.
Her name is Andrea BTW, like the big naturals girl with black skirt.
Desk girls are nice since 2019. A superb and smiling German on lounge bar on day.
Desk girls are nice since 2019. A superb and smiling German on lounge bar on day.Since we have so many long time clients of Oase here, does anyone know what happened to Hun Elizabeth?
I heard she might have become an independent escort but I can't find her.
Since we have so many long time clients of Oase here, does anyone know what happened to Hun Elizabeth?
I heard she might have become an independent escort but I can't find her.Very long time not anymore seen at Oase, I think 2016. There was another one with big naturals, but first one with scar on leg was more interesting for me.
Very long time not anymore seen at Oase, I think 2016. There was another one with big naturals, but first one with scar on leg was more interesting for me.My mistake: first was Cz. Didn't see Hungarian with big naturals I think since 2017/2018.
EuroTravel1234
10-22-21, 12:09
Anyone please.
Is Nadia still working at Oase??
Thanks.
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