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Faceless78
02-28-15, 09:30
So, to make things complete I also did Oase today. First the good news: line up looks good and isn't any worse than Sharks what I'm concerned. Also, none of the BS about only kissing if you spend more than 50, although a girl did tell me that's what the Romanian Mafia is pushing. It might have played a role, that I didn't bother with type of girls that are known for this (the ones who's eyes light up when the see an Asian man). And lastly, actually some nice atmosphere in the evening Why? This type of girl are usually connected with mafia? Just my curiosity. Sometimes I see a group of Japanese come in and some girls immediately jump on them

Free Dude
02-28-15, 09:48
I meant blond Lora with the glasses. Daria / Carla / Cheyenne was there indeed, but with her limited service not an option.

With "Romanian mafia" I just mean the group of girls that make these kind of "rules" amongst themselves (and get angry with others if they break them). The reason why so many girls are all "not here" about DFK in the bar. A girl literary told me she would get shit from the others if they saw her DFK in the bar or if they found out she did it for a 30 minute session. There were about 20 girls that I've seen make out in the kino or bar extensively 3 years ago, but nothing anymore.

Saying I didn't bother with these girls, also just means that I didn't even try with girls like Donna and Carla (the only ones I remember by name). Girls that either don't look at me or just ask "Let's fuck!

Dufey
02-28-15, 10:12
Why? This type of girl are usually connected with mafia? Just my curiosity. Sometimes I see a group of Japanese come in and some girls immediately jump on themYes, you see the girls act like the fast moving Tuna fish that swoops in from all sides to tackle a slower moving herd of Japanese acting like a school of mackerel fish all bunched together walking around the club. Then you see the circling girl Tuna circling the school of Japanese mackerel then suddenly swooping in for the kill pulling one Japanese out of the school to be dragged to the Kino or to the room. It is like a television natural history documentary watching this happen from the safety of your Oase bar sofa. I see this habit mainly in the Oase school of Tuna than in other clubs. But then it seems many schools of Japanese come to Oase.

Dufey
02-28-15, 10:17
I meant blond Lora with the glasses.

With "Romanian mafia" I just mean the group of girls that make these kind of "rules" amongst themselves (and get angry with others if they break them). The reason why so many girls are all "not here" about DFK in the bar. A girl literary told me she would get shit from the others if they saw her DFK in the bar or if they found out she did it for a 30 minute session. There were about 20 girls that I've seen make out in the kino or bar extensively 3 years ago, but nothing anymore.Little Laura / Livia bucks this trend for no deep tongue kissing in public at Oase. I have seen her kiss men with affection in the Oase reception, at the bar where the drinks are served, in the Kino and also see her do even more sex acts publically in the Kino.

If this is the case, she must have got a real hard time from the Romanian mafia for doing this after the fact as retribution for her misdeeds.

It could be a reason why she is seen working at World on Thursday this week.

Faceless78
02-28-15, 11:07
Yes, you see the girls act like the fast moving Tuna fish that swoops in from all sides to tackle a slower moving herd of Japanese acting like a school of mackerel fish all bunched together walking around the club. Then you see the circling girl Tuna circling the school of Japanese mackerel then suddenly swooping in for the kill pulling one Japanese out of the school to be dragged to the Kino or to the room. It is like a television natural history documentary watching this happen from the safety of your Oase bar sofa. I see this habit mainly in the Oase school of Tuna than in other clubs. But then it seems many schools of Japanese come to Oase.Eh, I think I could understand your words, which is quite, eh, vivid. Natural geograph, I get the point.

But I so saw some Romania mafia guys last summer, one girl ponted out that for me

PussyLiccker
02-28-15, 13:30
Little Laura / Livia bucks this trend for no deep tongue kissing in public at Oase. I have seen her kiss men with affection in the Oase reception, at the bar where the drinks are served, in the Kino and also see her do even more sex acts publically in the Kino.

If this is the case, she must have got a real hard time from the Romanian mafia for doing this after the fact as retribution for her misdeeds.

It could be a reason why she is seen working at World on Thursday this week.I have had a short kissing time with a girl on the white couches near the cocktail bar, but this was back on Nov. Pleasant surprise although I don't see that as much as long ago like FD says. For me, when I used to frequent Oase years back, kissing on the kino or the couch area besides the cocktail bar more common for pre-zimmer, and this would close the deal. I've seen public action with Livia in the Kino.


Sometimes I see a group of Japanese come in and some girls immediately jump on themOne of the nights I've seen a group of East Asian men in the club, and noticed the usual suspect of girls going at them on the kino. It was on a slower night during the week. I see this at other times too.

Exodus8
02-28-15, 13:41
I meant blond Lora with the glasses. Daria / Carla / Cheyenne was there indeed, but with her limited service not an option.

With "Romanian mafia" I just mean the group of girls that make these kind of "rules" amongst themselves (and get angry with others if they break them). The reason why so many girls are all "not here" about DFK in the bar. A girl literary told me she would get shit from the others if they saw her DFK in the bar or if they found out she did it for a 30 minute session. There were about 20 girls that I've seen make out in the kino or bar extensively 3 years ago, but nothing anymore.

Saying I didn't bother with these girls, also just means that I didn't even try with girls like Donna and Carla (the only ones I remember by name). Girls that either don't look at me or just ask "Let's fuck!Guys,

When the "Romanian mafia" is trying to ruin the market, you should all join forces and fight back I. E. Boycott them by taking other girls that offer DFK in standard €50 or take your business somewhere else.

If you give these "mafia" a finger they will take your hand I. E. End of with €50 just watching no touching, LOL.

Dufey
02-28-15, 14:58
But I so saw some Romania mafia guys last summer, one girl ponted out that for meI try to be clearer next time.

For the Romanian mafia, they do come into the clubs too to enjoy the relax time with the girls but also to check on their girls directly on their business volumes. There are several genres of these mafia.

If you also see the tattoos of Hells Angels on their bodies that also means something too. Some only have discreet tattoos which you hardly notice but then some have full blown body art, but mainly the HA wear bath robes like Hugh Hefner looking so you cannot see the tattoos.

Danny227
02-28-15, 15:31
I try to be clearer next time.

For the Romanian mafia, they do come into the clubs too to enjoy the relax time with the girls but also to check on their girls directly on their business volumes. There are several genres of these mafia.

If you also see the tattoos of Hells Angels on their bodies that also means something too. Some only have discreet tattoos which you hardly notice but then some have full blown body art, but mainly the HA wear bath robes like Hugh Hefner looking so you cannot see the tattoos.OK, now I get it. I didn't understand who these guys that get everything they want were. A girl in Oase once told me that some girls have guys that take care of them and get a piece of the action (she didn't agree with the term pimp).

She hated it and wanted to finish paying them off, so will be on her own. I didn't see it in Sharks tho it is probably everywhere.

Faceless78
02-28-15, 16:26
I try to be clearer next time.

For the Romanian mafia, they do come into the clubs too to enjoy the relax time with the girls but also to check on their girls directly on their business volumes. There are several genres of these mafia.

If you also see the tattoos of Hells Angels on their bodies that also means something too. Some only have discreet tattoos which you hardly notice but then some have full blown body art, but mainly the HA wear bath robes like Hugh Hefner looking so you cannot see the tattoos.Yes, the hells angels. Mafia or boy friend, I don't understand why girls work so hard for others.

Dufey
02-28-15, 17:10
Yes, the hells angels. Mafia or boy friend, I don't understand why girls work so hard for others.Truly what you ask is what some government and feminist authorities ask as well: why do the girls do this job and give their money to other people controlling them. What they come to is the conclusion is that the girls are coerced and do not do this job of their own free choice and so this business is a bad thing.

Much as been debated about this before on this forum but I just wanted to give one side of the answer since you ask.

Faceless78
02-28-15, 18:14
Truly what you ask is what some government and feminist authorities ask as well: why do the girls do this job and give their money to other people controlling them. What they come to is the conclusion is that the girls are coerced and do not do this job of their own free choice and so this business is a bad thing.

Much as been debated about this before on this forum but I just wanted to give one side of the answer since you ask.At another club, recently I heard news about one unlucky girl. She lent several hundreds to another girl who "claims" her mother's sick, and of course she disappeared with the money. Then the first girl had no way to get the money back, so as a result, her boyfriend forced her not to come to club work and stay at home since he is mad about this. I haven't seen her for weeks, I don't know her too much but it's one friendly girl.

Exodus8
02-28-15, 18:20
At another club, recently I heard news about one unlucky girl. She lent several hundreds to another girl who "claims" her mother's sick, and of course she disappeared with the money. Then the first girl had no way to get the money back, so as a result, her boyfriend forced her not to come to club work and stay at home since he is mad about this. I haven't seen her for weeks, I don't know her too much but it's one friendly girl.BF's logical sense must be very mad it should've been opposite I. E. Force her to work her ass off in order to cover that loss. Suppose this girl know the other she lent money to?

Dufey
02-28-15, 18:54
At another club, recently I heard news about one unlucky girl. She lent several hundreds to another girl who "claims" her mother's sick, and of course she disappeared with the money. Then the first girl had no way to get the money back, so as a result, her boyfriend forced her not to come to club work and stay at home since he is mad about this. I haven't seen her for weeks, I don't know her too much but it's one friendly girl.In the last 3 months I have had whatsapp, sms and phone calls to send money to different girls I know since they had no money somehow in Romania after working for many months in Germany in the FKK clubs. I also have requests for money for flights home since they cannot afford to go home to see family. Another one is to send money because their parents or siblings are unwell and there is no universal health cover in their home country of Romania, Spain or Italy. I always wondered where was their European health card if they are Spanish or Italian as the girls claim.

Then there are the girls that ask for money since they cannot pay for their children or legal fees for custody battles for their children.

Then there are the girls that ask for money to pay off their pimps or their "fish" as they are renown in Romanian parlance.

Faceless78
02-28-15, 19:05
BF's logical sense must be very mad it should've been opposite I. E. Force her to work her ass off in order to cover that loss. Suppose this girl know the other she lent money to?Year, two girls worked in same club.

I heard that the BF don't believe the story, he suspects his GF gave money to other man. So, who knows, mad people can do anything. I don't know the detail anyway.

Banana Boi
02-28-15, 20:01
her boyfriend forced her not to come to club work and stay at home since he is mad about this. I haven't seen her for weeks, A more likely scenario. He kicked the crap out of her and she can't work until her wounds are physically healed, or something worse happened to her.

Makes no sense that a pimp would not let her work. He's the one losing the money!

Faceless78
02-28-15, 20:13
A more likely scenario. He kicked the crap out of her and she can't work until her wounds are physically healed, or something worse happened to her.

Makes no sense that a pimp would not let her work. He's the one losing the money!That may be the only difference BTW a pimp and a so-called boyfriend.

It would be sad if it's like what you say, I haven't seen her for more than half month, but they say she stays with BF at home. I may check out next week, hope to find her well.

Syzygies
03-01-15, 08:26
I meant blond Lora with the glasses. Daria / Carla / Cheyenne was there indeed, but with her limited service not an option.
I have heard guys rave about Lora for a PSE performance, but those guys probably wanted something different to us wanting GFE. Cum on glasses was one special service. LOL.

"Daria / Carla / Cheyenne" is confusing for me again. Have not heard of Cheyenne, there are 2 Carlas reported with normally good service (for most), and recently Daria / Magda (of the sisters) was discussed re decreasing service or increasing restrictions over time. No matter, I guess.

Sinbad333
03-01-15, 08:48
Guys,

When the "Romanian mafia" is trying to ruin the market, you should all join forces and fight back I. E. Boycott them by taking other girls that offer DFK in standard 50 or take your business somewhere else.

If you give these "mafia" a finger they will take your hand I. E. End of with 50 just watching no touching, LOL.I fully agree that we have to fight back by revealing names of girls with bad services but don't you think that revealing names of the girls that provide DFK would let them exposed?

Syzygies
03-01-15, 08:51
When the "Romanian mafia" is trying to ruin the market, you should all join forces and fight back I. E. Boycott them by taking other girls that offer DFK in standard 50 or take your business somewhere else.
Ha Ha. The behaviour of customers varies tremendously and cannot be controlled. Much easier for a limited group of girls to join forces. They won't care if you take your business somewhere else.

Customers will clearly take the best performing girls if they know who they are. Ina was a great performing girl who did not last long at Oase. Maybe she felt out of place amongst other girls giving a lot less for 50.

There are still girls who know they get much more business by performing great consistently. I have sympathy for the girls, in that they got no price rise for many years, ever since I first started in FKK 10 years ago. Its not surprising to me that they want to deny service to guys wanting to get away with just a 50 and wasting the girls' time in the lounge as well. I know certain customers that are usually shunned by girls as being big waste of time type guys, particularly at Sharks. The customer mix at Oase is much broader I think. Obviously more Italians than at Sharks. Sharks would be dominated by Germans and Asians, I guess.

Free Dude
03-01-15, 09:55
I was referring to the girl banana boi mentioned: carla in gt, daria in lr and cheyenne in andiamo (and yes, met her at all these places). Don't know her name in oase though.

Hessen Bub
03-01-15, 10:13
Customers will clearly take the best performing girls if they know who they are. So why is Janine at Sharks so busy? Why did Marie at Oase get so much business? Clearly there are many customers who go for looks and accept crappy service. BTW: Janine's body is great, don't like her face.

HB.

Dufey
03-01-15, 12:04
I also tried a new Sara (Rom) , who said that it was spelt without an `h'. I am not sure whether she is the same Sara (h) in your list as she claimed that she has been here for just 2 weeks. She was short, hair appears a slightly reddish brunette, more like a B cup, and more gazellish than voluptuous, and so sweet and pretty that I had to take her to the room straight away. Service was standard though and she seemed not quite sure what to do; so I presume she is really 2 weeks old.Did your Sarah resemble the girl in the attached pictures? Somehow I have good memories of her. Any news on her please?

Dufey
03-01-15, 12:08
So why is Janine at Sharks so busy? Why did Marie at Oase get so much business? Clearly there are many customers who go for looks and accept crappy service. BTW: Janine's body is great, don't like her face.Maybe it was also because Janine and Marie were German girls so German speaking customers could speak to them properly instead of having to speak English or Spanish or speaking child like German with Romanians who do not have the German language skills.

Janine has great tits and small smooth arse.

Marie was one leggy blonde.

Sirioja
03-01-15, 12:22
I was referring to the girl banana boi mentioned: carla in gt, daria in lr and cheyenne in andiamo (and yes, met her at all these places). Don't know her name in oase though.This girl Carla in GT / Daria in LR is in the business for a long time, not what I expect for GFE.

Sirioja
03-01-15, 13:00
Guys,

When the "Romanian mafia" is trying to ruin the market, you should all join forces and fight back I. E. Boycott them by taking other girls that offer DFK in standard 50 or take your business somewhere else.

If you give these "mafia" a finger they will take your hand I. E. End of with 50 just watching no touching, LOL.Just have to behave as a client like in other business, thinking with head and not from below, talking and asking the girl what expected and if girl doesn't provide for only rate club, then no problem, thank you with a smile and next one.

We have the money so we can choose, girls are in club to work, they pay entry, most of them don't work much at the moment, they need to work, most of them have pimp, so no need to pay more than 50/30 mn out of extra CIM, anal, no need to tip, when you buy something, you expect good quality for it, even if it depends on feeling between a man and a woman and it can be subjective.

Just to make girls understand who is the client and who choose how to spend money, but staying respectful of course, they are women, if a girl answers me not providing real DFK, no problem, I respect her answer, I never try to force her because if she accepts because she has to make money, I m not interested to have only one quick at the beginning and the girl to say I do kiss you, but I don't go to room with her and I will not pay extra for this, I just only stay 1 h when good feeling with the girl to take time to play with her.

Very simple with a girl like Ina. Let who never asked me more than the rate and never for extra, unfortunately she only returns Oase when she needs and I wish her to stay in Riga.

Dufey
03-01-15, 13:18
Went with Lexi. I got a sense she was hurrying the session although technically she was ok with kissing(short duration), but didn't really feel much engagement with her. Maybe, her services are better on less busier nights, but was a bit pro for me. Another punter that went with her told me she was a bit hurried. Beautiful girl with unique looking eyes. Her eyes looked a bit Asiatic. Nice milky skin with nice ass while in doggy during BBBJ. Good optiks.I think Lexi's white milky skin will appeal to Sirioja.

TankTank123
03-01-15, 13:45
Did your Sarah resemble the girl in the attached pictures? Somehow I have good memories of her. Any news on her please?Sorry, that post was in 2013. As I had not seen her again since that one occasion, I cannot remember her face.

Sirioja
03-01-15, 14:07
I think Lexi's white milky skin will appeal to Sirioja.Thanks, I know Lexi, I went in room with her for her 3rd or 4th day, she was not busy at this time, I enjoyed very much with her with real DFK and very sensitive, I was surprised when she said me she has a BF at home, we stayed 1 h but she didn't ask for extending time or any extra, it was my choice, I just hope, she didn't change since this time?

When I came again she was not working, nor Ina. Let, nor Roxana. Ro and Maria. Ro blond lost her smile, but I liked her before.

I like blond white skin, Roxana, Maria at Oase, Candy at Samya, but I prefer pretty face with beautiful eyes, mouth and teeth and sensual women.

Atus1
03-01-15, 14:13
Roxana likely didn't want to fuck you cause if you came during sex she would lose 50 euro for CIM.

I'l let the club regulars on here yell at you for tipping Alicia and Alexa 50 euro each. :)

I thought German rental cars were capped off at 220 or 240 kmh? Am I renting from the wrong places?You are right. She was wrong and she did a mistake. She might have got her extra 50, but over 3 other days I went there and in future, she was not, and will not be the one getting any session from me.

I took Alicia for 3 sessions in 3 days and she made good money. All well deserved money.

Once in a while I pay extra for high end rental cars to enjoy the German highways. It is expensive, but hey, where else you can legally drive as fast as you drive in Germany?

I go much faster toward FKKs than when I am leaving, but I guess most of us doing that.

Atus1
03-01-15, 14:28
100 for 5 mn anal sex, you should try blond Melissa, 50 for tips, of course everyone is free but don't be surprised if Roxana ask you for extra, I never had problem with her for 1 h for only 100 with friendly GFE behavior and amazing doggy looking at her vagina and amazing ass, with no tips and she said me: we can repeat when you want again and I repeated, same with Maria blond in July or Lexi or Ina or Cristina blond.

Driving to Polheim north to Frankfurt or Darmstadt south, with Porsche turbo 4's, you can drive even more than 330 where unlimited.Will look for Melissa next time.

I wasn't that lucky with Roxana, and because of the service I got, I will not try her again. She is now one of the furnitures from my point of view.

Oh man, Porsche turbo 4 on German highway. That might be better than sex.

PussyLiccker
03-01-15, 16:10
I think Lexi's white milky skin will appeal to Sirioja.Milky skin like Roxanna who he seems to like too. Isn't there another girl, a blond Maria with Milky skin? What's up with all these milky skins at Oase? I notice lots of light skins at Oase, and of course lots of blonds. I think Asian men are attracted to light skins. Where are they coming from? Is there a fair-skinned part of Romania?

Lightest girl I've been with was Blond Josie German with Polish-Russian ancestry at GT. Lexi is pretty light skinned.

Sirioja, you should look for Julia if you haven't been with her. I thought her services was great. Friendly smiling girl in the room.

Zorro1980
03-01-15, 19:58
When we pay 70 euro for entrance to Oase they never give us invoice. Do you believe that they pay tax to German tax office? I just wonder that, sorry for silly question.

Dufey
03-01-15, 20:53
Sorry, that post was in 2013. As I had not seen her again since that one occasion, I cannot remember her face.Thank you TankTank. It took me a couple of visits before I booked her myself, but when I did book Sarah, she took a bit of me with her. She had improved I think since she was quite good in the room and able to offer extras. She had a wonderful slim leggy body with full heavy breasts. I would have thought a larger be or even a see cup on her. I still look around the clubs for her but I think she said she would no longer work after December 2013 when she returned to Romania. I still think about her. Alas.

Sirioja
03-01-15, 23:24
Will look for Melissa next time.

I wasn't that lucky with Roxana, and because of the service I got, I will not try her again. She is now one of the furnitures from my point of view.

Oh man, Porsche turbo 4 on German highway. That might be better than sex.I don't advice blond Melissa. Ro who sell anal for 100€ but after 5 mn she said me: you kill my ass.

I had 3 good friendly meetings with Roxana and doggy with her, looking at her ass, is a real pleasure.

But less than high speed on North Nurburgring between Koblenz and Luxemburg.

Vito Corleone
03-02-15, 01:38
When we pay 70 euro for entrance to Oase they never give us invoice. Do you believe that they pay tax to German tax office? I just wonder that, sorry for silly question.They never pay. They spend the extra money on paper towels.

Perfectionist
03-02-15, 03:41
Any recent sightings??

Tina Turner sisters - 2 black voluptuous twins!

Since there infamous departure from Oase following a brawl with each other in the changing rooms, has anyone had any sighting or knowledge of where they are now?

Syzygies
03-02-15, 05:06
So why is Janine at Sharks so busy? Why did Marie at Oase get so much business? Clearly there are many customers who go for looks and accept crappy service. BTW: Janine's body is great, don't like her face.

HB.Ha Ha! We are somewhat agreed here. I don't know why Janine is busy, but her business is dropping off. I don't specially go for the face and don't take her. Tits is not enough. LOL. I also thought Marie was very over-rated, but I did try at least twice. LOL. Never had a really great time with her though. Too much restrictions.

I will take stunning girls if the service is generally acceptable to me. Hence I will take slim Christina from time to time. I can survive a session without DFK, if most other things are good. However little point in a stunner with really bad service. We can agree on that. The girls that I get hooked on, to take very regularly, are generally in the very high GFE service category. Looks are rarely perfect, but above average.

Obviously some guys are very service oriented and will take any type of looks. Some are looks oriented. I actually like to get both but sometimes have to compromise a little. There is no total perfection.

Its easy to understand a guy trying a stunner, but if service is really poor by his standards, you would not expect him to repeat often.

Banana Boi
03-02-15, 06:53
I suspect Janine is popular since I have read many posts that guys spend hours with her pre / post session. Lots of lonely guys will session with a girl if she spends time with them, regardless of looks / service.

Agreed Marie was way overrated. I didn't even think she was all that spectacular especially compared to many of the Germans in NRW 2 years ago. I went with her out of curiosity given the hype.

NF4591
03-02-15, 07:40
I arrived at Oase around 6:30 pm, had a shower, roamed around the place and verified that none my favorites are there anymore (May, Diana, Kelly). I sat in the Kino and a few women approached, but I declined. Finally, Jamile came to me:

Jamile (pronounced Jah-meel-aye), Cuban, curly hair, dark skin, not very skinny: We talked for a while, and verified that she does DFK and licks balls. We went to a room, where we started with DFK, then blow job and 69. She licked my balls thoroughly, and did some rimming also, which felt very good. Finally, we finished in doggy. Rating 7/10,50 Euros.

After this, I was hungry, so I left the club to have dinner. I intended to go back to the club, but decided I was too tired and went back to my hotel instead.

Hessen Bub
03-02-15, 08:02
When we pay 70 euro for entrance to Oase they never give us invoice. Do you believe that they pay tax to German tax office? I just wonder that, sorry for silly question.Sure they do, they'd be bad stupid if they didn't, they'd risk too much. Sunken Atlantis is a good example. If you need a receipt, ask for it. Most guys don't want to carry one.

Why do you keep asking that question?

HB.

Faceless78
03-02-15, 10:42
Sure they do, they'd be bad stupid if they didn't, they'd risk too much. Sunken Atlantis is a good example. If you need a receipt, ask for it. Most guys don't want to carry one.

Why do you keep asking that question?

HB.Maybe his company will reimburse the entrance with the invoice.

Sirioja
03-02-15, 10:47
Maybe his company will reimburse the entrance with the invoice.I was stupid not to think about this, thanks, I will also ask each girl for invoice for therapy service, I get stressed, I need.

Vito Corleone
03-02-15, 11:45
Any recent sightings??

Tina Turner sisters - 2 black voluptuous twins!

Since there infamous departure from Oase following a brawl with each other in the changing rooms, has anyone had any sighting or knowledge of where they are now?They are working with Marie.

Hessen Bub
03-02-15, 18:17
IMHO he has other intentions. Don't know what exactly his hidden agenda is, but somehow he's trying to imply that FKK clubs are evading taxes. Same post in another FKK thread.

HB.

Faceless78
03-02-15, 18:27
IMHO he has other intentions. Don't know what exactly his hidden agenda is, but somehow he's trying to imply that FKK clubs are evading taxes. Same post in another FKK thread.

HB.Yes I've seen his posts too.

Undercover tax fraud investigator?joking

Sirioja
03-02-15, 18:39
Yes I've seen his posts too.

Undercover tax fraud investigator?He also asks about taxi for World, if a club doesn't pay taxes, for sure the boss will inform his staff and girls and clients about, so we can have those kind of informations.

We are not sure about real nationality or age for girls we have sex with, but we can know if the club pay taxes or not.

Nevertheless girls are more interesting than taxes, but not much informations at the moment for attractive girls at Oase, I will have to discover.

Horny Harry
03-02-15, 21:25
When we pay 70 euro for entrance to Oase they never give us invoice. Do you believe that they pay tax to German tax office? I just wonder that, sorry for silly question.Now that I think of it, I NEVER EVER got a receipt when paying entrance going to a regular disco / club on a Friday or Saturday night. The only thing you get is a smudgy stamp on your hand. I also never ever got a receipt when buying a Gluehwein or a Bratwurst on a Christmas Market in Germany either. Anyone else got receipts for those?

I have no idea why you're so hung up on this, please get a life ASAP.

UltraHappy
03-03-15, 01:08
The beauty of the 6-for-5 deal is that it would foil the tax office's one-time attempt at counting entrances from the outside. If the tax man counts 300 men go into Oase on any given day, and the receipts show only 280 entrances, Mauro has a defense that 20 men must have paid by pre-purchased Eintritte.

The European tax authorities have had hundreds of years of practice nabbing tax cheats. They've been known to engage in counting ketchup packets and napkins consumed in making cases against restaurants or buying odd items together to make a unique payment amount and later checking the receipts to see if that payment amount showed up in that day's logs.

In any case, I wonder if a side benefit of the 6-for-5 deals is that it allows the clubs to fudge a few entries every day. And surely, some of the entries get lost. So, instead of writing them off as a loss, it's more "tax efficient" to fail to show the lost passes as income.

Not that any club would ever do any such thing. Just musing out loud.

Faceless78
03-03-15, 01:38
Now that I think of it, I NEVER EVER got a receipt when paying entrance going to a regular disco / club on a Friday or Saturday night. The only thing you get is a smudgy stamp on your hand. I also never ever got a receipt when buying a Gluehwein or a Bratwurst on a Christmas Market in Germany either. Anyone else got receipts for those?

I have no idea why you're so hung up on this, please get a life ASAP.You know, when I was a kid, I always wondered why people never get a invoice from KFC or Mcdonald's, I thought they never pay tax-.

Euroknight
03-03-15, 08:44
.....

With "Romanian mafia" I just mean the group of girls that make these kind of "rules" amongst themselves (and get angry with others if they break them). The reason why so many girls are all "not here" about DFK in the bar. A girl literary told me she would get shit from the others if they saw her DFK in the bar or if they found out she did it for a 30 minute session. There were about 20 girls that I've seen make out in the kino or bar extensively 3 years ago, but nothing anymore.

....I have to admit that for an occasional visitor of FKKs like me these news are a little bit distressing. I used to regard visitis to Oase as an exciting opportunity not only because of the girls, but also a relaxing place, where you meet some nice girls and they behave more or less naturally. DFK or simple FK is just a part of preliminaries: it is a little distressing to imagine that when you start chatting with a girl you should try to remember if she is one of those mentioned as part of this "organised" group. I am going back soon to Frankfurt, and I planned to pay a visit to Oase, but now I am reconsidering a little my choice.

Ortos
03-03-15, 17:40
I am going back soon to Frankfurt, and I planned to pay a visit to Oase, but now I am reconsidering a little my choice.If you reconsider anything, you should reconsider your reaction to change your plans based on one or even a few posts on the Internet forum about what a girl or a group of girls will or will not do. Some girls will DFK one guy liberally, but will not with another man or certain other guys, this for a whole variety of reasons. In short, you really have to go experience things first-hand to know if what you read is really true and has universal validity. Very seldom is there universal agreement on anything you read here. That, I think, is a fact.

I for one have recently been to Oase and enjoyed DFK (like no tomorrow) in the lounge and kino areas of the club, even by the high tables on either side of the jacuzzi, not to mention inside the room. By all means, abandon you plan to visit Oase in favour of another club, but know this: I've found DFK in public areas alot more scarce in, say, Sharks than in Oase. But that is just me. Don't take my view at face value either, instead go and see yourself (or not, depending on how you feel).

Syzygies
03-03-15, 19:37
I have to admit that for an occasional visitor of FKKs like me these news are a little bit distressing. Most of us are not distressed at all. There are still plenty of nice girls. Some girls services may have decreased over time, some are just as good. Some of the new girls can be good.

I only worry when the number of very pretty girls in the line up drops off. However if I can find 4 to 6 girls I would like to do, then I am very happy. If the attendance is 80 or more girls and it usually is at its peak, then finding a few hot girls is not that tough.

Quite a number of really good girls have been recommended over time, and a few who can be really good when they like the customer/money.

So far, in my 2015 visits the line up has been a little below best of last year, but still enough good choices for me, and still girls on the "to do" list. Try two or 3 clubs and see which one is best style for you. Not everyone has the same requirements.

I am looking forward to my next visit and hope for certain girls to be there.

Craiova
03-03-15, 20:08
Will be valid three weeks max.According Oase homepage the 6 for 4 special offer is still valid after around six weeks.

Sirioja
03-03-15, 21:14
According Oase homepage the 6 for 4 special offer is still valid after around six weeks.Maybe less clients like everywhere, Alicia proposed me in January, but I have to find a new fav at Oase before.

Euroknight
03-03-15, 22:54
Most of us are not distressed at all. There are still plenty of nice girls. .....Maybe I should have used "disappointed" instead, but let me just say that what makes me think is the fact that some girls organize in groups to bully some other girls, to impose some rules. I find pretty normal that girls have their own preferences, and decide to whom they are ready to give a DFK, and where. However, one of the features I mostly like in Oase is the relaxed atmosphere. I can not remember for instance of having been annoyed by girls insisting to go immediately to the room, as it happened to me elsewhere. It is also that, as well as the quality of the lineup, which made Oase a place where one wants to come back.

Hessen Bub
03-03-15, 23:03
According Oase homepage the 6 for 4 special offer is still valid after around six weeks.Still or again? It wasn't advertised in the club two weeks ago.

HB.

Craiova
03-03-15, 23:12
Still or again? It wasn't advertised in the club two weeks ago.
Hmm I thought you can read I wrote "still" and not "again". It's still not advertised in club but was always on homepage. So just only check the homepage. There you'll find since 19.01.2015. Its very easy to read.

NF4591
03-04-15, 09:26
I had a full FKK yesterday. Oase in the morning, Sharks in the afternoon / evening, then back to Oase late at night. Oase was empty while I was there, and it was not a great experience.

Morning: I arrived around 11:30, and there were maybe 8 girls and 6 men. Almost all the girls approached me, and I finally decided to go with Mikela (Bulgarian, long brown hair, very thin) - the session was ok. She gave me BBBJ, then 69 and CIM. The part I remember most was how thin she was, but how large her pussy lips were. She was mechanical, but it was nice to blow the first load of the day. 100 Euros, rating 5/10.

I left in the afternoon to have a late lunch and spent a lot of time at Sharks, then returned around 1:30 am. The club was quite empty again, and the only girl who looked good to me was the girl with huge lips who gives a great messy blow job. She had the towel around her waist (signaling she's not available) and was locked in conversation with one of the staff for quite a while, so I went around trying to find another girl. None of them looked that great to me, so I ended up packing up and leaving without any late-night sessions. The best part of the late-night visit was seeing the smoking hot blonde girl at reception. If she offered sessions, we would be lining up.

Syzygies
03-04-15, 19:47
Maybe I should have used "disappointed" instead, but let me just say that what makes me think is the fact that some girls organize in groups to bully some other girls, to impose some rules. I find pretty normal that girls have their own preferences, and decide to whom they are ready to give a DFK, and where. However, one of the features I mostly like in Oase is the relaxed atmosphere. I can not remember for instance of having been annoyed by girls insisting to go immediately to the room, as it happened to me elsewhere. It is also that, as well as the quality of the lineup, which made Oase a place where one wants to come back.Some times girls may provide certain services to only some customers, so they may want provision of these services to be somewhat secret.

One problem is that girls read the forum and so do their boyfriends. So they don't want certain things to be written about them. I could easily miss out on DFK just because the girl doesn't me to tell anyone that I got it. Of course, I could keep a secret if she wanted it secret.

One girl said to me WTF? A forum report stated she allowed deep fingers, and she told me she definitely did not, and her boyfriend wasn't happy to a post read about it either (not my post). Why she told me? No clue. LOL. I can't really remember exactly what she ever allowed over multiple years anyway. Fingers or no fingers is not a big problem for me. Some girls allow fingers with condom protection.

There is some peer pressure to conform, but not all girls are conformists and wanting to belong to some little club. Some want to provide best service to maximise their repeat customers. Others have their personal standards and limits. Some are never going to take a big cock up their tight little ass (and I don't blame them) for lengthy time. I never ask for it. I don't want to use 100 in this way anyway. I like extra time sessions.

Dufey
03-05-15, 20:54
The best part of the late-night visit was seeing the smoking hot blonde girl at reception. If she offered sessions, we would be lining up.If the Reception blondie was Alicia from Poland then she used to work in the club offering sessions, but now she has retired to work the front desk of Oase instead.

Simon2001
03-06-15, 00:12
Can anybody comment if they see Monica from Bulgaria this weekend (Saturday) at Oase please?

Thanks

Sirioja
03-06-15, 02:57
At 2 am, Oase is as empty as World last week.

Average casting: no Maria, no Ramona, no Roxana.

Girls are Beatrice, Lexi who has not same friendly behaviour than when I met her, Elizabet. Hu, Maya, Carla small brunette, Laura small brunette, Alyce, Kim arrived since 3 days from Globe. Ch, short black hairs, tattoos, Juicy who confirmed me Laura was at World last week and now in Switzerland to try to make money, ex Carla GT / Daria LR with short blond hairs and tatoo in back who is friendly girl to talk with, Tropinela. It, a black girl.

Seems to be difficult to work for most of girls.

Very good surprise of the night is pretty face Suzinella now wants to be named Anaïs, no problem for me, I see her since my first visit in June and tonight she came to me, after what I read about her, friendly and honest girl with me and what a BBBJ provided by angel face even ass and legs not too slim, if she stays like tonight, we will repeat.

About 40 girls at 11 pm.

Average foods.

PussyLiccker
03-06-15, 06:30
Very good surprise of the night is pretty face Suzinella now wants to be named Anas, no problem for me, I see her since my first visit in June and tonight she came to me, after what I read about her, friendly and honest girl with me and what a BBBJ provided by angel face even ass and legs not too slim, if she stays like tonight, we will repeat.
You mean Suginella? The dark blond with pretty face and nice eyes that has trails of bad reports? Her service was just standard for me with closed mouth kissing. Was her services better with open mouth kissing? I wonder if anybody got a good session with her?

Syzygies
03-06-15, 07:08
I left in the afternoon to have a late lunch and spent a lot of time at Sharks, then returned around 1:30 am. The club was quite empty again,1:30 is a really crap time to attend Oase, mid week, and Tuesday maybe the weekest day.

I recommend to arrive at 5 pm or a little earlier. After 10 pm some good girls are leaving. The whole atmosphere deteriorates as it gets later.

I usually leave by midnight and only stay longer if line up warrants it.

Craiova
03-06-15, 09:06
You mean Suginella? The dark blond with pretty face and nice eyes that has trails of bad reports? Her service was just standard for me with closed mouth kissing. Was her services better with open mouth kissing? I wonder if anybody got a good session with her?Yep I'm quite sure we're talking about the same girl with pretty face and eyes and bigger ass and legs with dark blonde hair, brown skin and a letter tattoo on one side and around 1,65 cm. Quite often together with blonde Francesca. I've never sessioned with her because I've heard from a very reliable source a bad session with her. Her Oase name? Probably she knows about her reputation and called now Anaìs or even something else.

Would be fine if her room performance has changed to the good ones. Also for me first time I've heard about a good session with her.

Sirioja
03-06-15, 09:38
You mean Suginella? The dark blond with pretty face and nice eyes that has trails of bad reports? Her service was just standard for me with closed mouth kissing. Was her services better with open mouth kissing? I wonder if anybody got a good session with her?Yes this girl, who looked in other direction when close to me until June and who is friend of Roxana and she knew so much about me, I don't know why she changed, maybe not much working even she made " duos" with other girl yesterday, but she was very friendly and very honest for our 1 h meeting this night, maybe because she spoke with Roxana and knew I stay 1 h when I enjoy and I enjoy with her, she said me she is Anaïs now, one of the prettiest face at Oase, maybe changing behaviour because difficult to work, not sure for same for 30 mn.

I didn't say her but I will return today to confirm this very good surprise or was it just a dream.

Lexi with long hairs now seemed busy with a client this night.

1 new girl Kim. Ro short black hairs, very slim, pretty face, many tattoos and Carla / Daria ex GT / LR but very friendly at Oase.

Maybe less clients make become more friendly or it was my lucky night to get good services for my single surprising meeting.

Banana Boi
03-06-15, 10:05
About 40 girls at 11 pm.What's going on with the low girl counts at so many clubs, especially in NRW? Where are all the girls going? Have all the Romanians become web cam models on myfreecams? LOL.

Sirioja
03-06-15, 10:42
What's going on with the low girl counts at so many clubs, especially in NRW? Where are all the girls going? Have all the Romanians become web cam models on myfreecams? LOL.Same even in GT except Saturday.

Girls don t work in GT, LR, World, Oase, Sharks and they have to pay entry, some of them return home or try in Switzerland or in apartment, Juicy said me yesterday very difficult now for a not new girl, that s why Laura changes place to work.

Sirioja
03-06-15, 10:53
Can anybody comment if they see Monica from Bulgaria this weekend (Saturday) at Oase please?

ThanksDescribe her and where she stays because I don t know her.

Melissa blond with pony tail, black stockings, never fully naked, day team was there, I don t recommend her for anal or only in cow girl.

Sirioja
03-06-15, 15:41
Day team of the day, about 20 girls, friendly Juicy, Alina. Ro, Melissa, Cristina blond arrived at 3 am, slim ex Marta World, friendly ex Emma World, Tropinela. It, Zina. De blond, 1 black girl, 1 thaï looking blond short hairs with glasses.

Girls are working a bit.

Now I have a cat at Oase, a real cat.

Waiting to repeat Suzinella / Anaïs if she behaves like last night.

Alicia was"theke" last night.

Sinbad333
03-06-15, 17:57
Could anybody confirm that Lexi is working this evening?

Faceless78
03-06-15, 18:10
Day team of the day, about 20 girls, friendly Juicy, Alina. Ro, Melissa, Cristina blond arrived at 3 am, slim ex Marta World, friendly ex Emma World, Tropinela. It, Zina. De blond, 1 black girl, 1 tha looking blond short hairs with glasses.

Girls are working a bit.

Now I have a cat at Oase, a real cat.

Waiting to repeat Suzinella / Anas if she behaves like last night.

Alicia was"theke" last night.A cat? A real cat?

UltraHappy
03-06-15, 18:50
A cat? A real cat?Orange domestic cat. Stay away from this cat. It is really mean and ornery. It will scratch you without warning. You have been warned! DON'T GO NEAR IT! That one is only for looking, not for touching.

Unlike other pussy there, this one is immune to offers of more Euros or extended session time.

Craiova
03-06-15, 18:51
A cat? A real cat?Of course this cat is at Oase for many years. Guys gave her the name "Muschi". Thats german for pussy.

Hessen Bub
03-06-15, 19:52
It's probably the only unshaved pussy you will see at Oase. Has been there for years. Never scratched me. Going in and out the front door.

HB.

TankTank123
03-06-15, 22:20
Thankfully, Muschi does not rest on the seats beside the pole anymore. A few years ago, it tried to attack me when I took a seat beside the pole in order to get nearer to one of my girl targets who was also sitting in that area. The girls had a good laugh. Maybe Ultrahappy also tried to sit at that spot.

Alchemist7744
03-06-15, 22:28
Hi all,

Does anybody know if Sabrina / Alexandra / Iris (names used at various stages, ro. With curly brown hair, at least 3 years at Oase) has been sighted recently?

I saw her name in one of Syzy's last lists, but it dates a few weeks.

Thanks in advance!

UShobbyist
03-06-15, 22:35
It's probably the only unshaved pussy you will see at Oase.....
For the time being, some girls don't get completely naked anymore. You really can't tell whether their pussies are shaved or not. LOL.

Wysiwyg25
03-06-15, 23:02
For the time being, some girls don't get completely naked anymore. You really can't tell whether their pussies are shaved or not. LOL.Newbie alert. Tomorrow is my first time at an FKK. Looking forward to the experience at FKK Oase. What's the best time to go on a Saturday and what should be my expectations if any.

Thanks for your responses.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 00:14
Actually Mauro had one of his infamous "staff" meetings about a week ago, all girls have to go naked except for Thursday. Juicy wasn't happy at all.

HB.

Faceless78
03-07-15, 01:29
Newbie alert. Tomorrow is my first time at an FKK. Looking forward to the experience at FKK Oase. What's the best time to go on a Saturday and what should be my expectations if any.

Thanks for your responses.Any day, between 18-22 will normally be your best time in Oase, Saturday should be even longer.

Banana Boi
03-07-15, 01:50
Newbie alert. Tomorrow is my first time at an FKK........what should be my expectations if any..Be ready to have a great time. The first FKK visit is a memorable one and imo you chose the best club for a newbie. Since it's your first FKK go around 430 or 5 pm giving you a bit of time to adjust to the shock. LOL.

Some advice. Never go right away with the first girls who ask you. Take 30 minutes or so to see who is around first. Don't tell girls this is your first FKK or act like a newbie.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 01:52
Can anybody comment if they see Monica from Bulgaria this weekend (Saturday) at Oase please?

ThanksMonica with implants was there after midnight which is technically Saturday. I imagine she will return for her regulars.

Saw tall Maria's tits for first time today. There are obviously new rules. Surprising how naked the girls were. All tits exposed. All pussies too.

Smoke alarm went off in one room. Probably cigarette went in the waste paper bin. Girls got called to a meeting after that.

Angie from World has been at Oase now for a few days. Told me about all the rule problems at World that caused girls to leave. Very small girl. Big natural tits. Fortunately pussy not so small. Nice session including kissing with tongue. Not for everyone the kissing but she liked me OK.

A very good girl. Was nice to see some of my favourites back, a few new girls, and some long gone girls returning.

I told taxi driver I live near the Palace. I said 35 Euros. He wanted 45. So we used the meter. He got only 30. The downside was he played dumb and I had to give him directions using my phone GPS.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 01:57
Could anybody confirm that Lexi is working this evening?Lexi was missing.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 02:15
What's going on with the low girl counts at so many clubs, especially in NRW? Where are all the girls going? Have all the Romanians become web cam models on myfreecams? LOL.You have to take these estimates for Oase with a grain of salt. There are usually a lot more girls than that. Did I ever see as few as 40 at Oase? Probably not. Then again I don't attend Dessous day and maybe girls don't like it too. LOL Just kidding. When I post the list for Friday, I will estimate how many additional girls I failed to name. With several new girls I would say we have 80 girls quite easily and a few quite pretty ones at 9PM before the day girls start leaving.

Rooms were full with a five min. wait around 9PM after the girls got out of the meeting.

PussyLiccker
03-07-15, 03:41
Yes this girl, who looked in other direction when close to me until June and who is friend of Roxana and she knew so much about me, I don't know why she changed, maybe not much working even she made " duos" with other girl yesterday, but she was very friendly and very honest for our 1 h meeting this night..
What do you mean by honest?

Like Craiova, I suspect she changed her name so that guys that only know her by that name wouldn't be able to associate her low performance the name. Sounds like it's a slow night, and girls would be less busy to get more time and likely better sessions. Curious which night would have the most girls, but not so busy?


Angie from World has been at Oase now for a few days. Told me about all the rule problems at World that caused girls to leave. Very small girl. Big natural tits. Fortunately pussy not so small. Nice session including kissing with tongue. Not for everyone the kissing but she liked me OK.Did she tell you she doesn't kiss everybody? Lots of girls tend to say they don't kiss everybody.

Sirioja
03-07-15, 03:49
Newbie alert. Tomorrow is my first time at an FKK. Looking forward to the experience at FKK Oase. What's the best time to go on a Saturday and what should be my expectations if any.

Thanks for your responses.Except my favs, Oase is for me the best casting at the moment, on Saturday you will have the full team.

Don t say it s your first time if you don t want to be eaten, ask the girls about what you want for services before going to room, avoid girls who rush on you, 50/30 mn out of CIM and anal and no need to tip, just being respectful, entry 70 , open 10 am-5 am, enjoy.

Sirioja
03-07-15, 04:22
What do you mean by honest?

Like Craiova, I suspect she changed her name so that guys that only know her by name wouldn't be able to associate her low performance the name. Sounds like it's a slow night, and girls would be less busy to get more time and likely better sessions. Curious which night would have the most girls, but not so busy?

Did she tell you she doesn't kiss everybody? Lots of girls tend to say they don't kiss everybody.I see Suz (g) inella since June, she goes on easy clients for fast 15 mn sex most of time and this Friday evening she does so, but yesterday she came to see me and we had a really full hour for 100 with a friendly pretty face girl with all I expected and asked her, so less expensive for me than 15/20 mn for 50 , no repeat tonight because more clients and she prefers easier clients than me, only smiles and kiss tonight, but I will be interested to try again to confirm with Anaïs / Suzinella from Bucarest who is able to provide for me better services than friendly pretty Scarlet face Sabina / Ramona with a body skin not perfect and who said me she usually doesn't kiss, but was happy to fuck Miss Scarlet, the prettiest face at Oase with Anais / Suzi, so done and she was always smiling when we crossed after.

I don t recommend Anya not Russian even speaking but Romanian, pretty but no kiss and ask for milk after 5 min fuck, too fast sex girl for my taste.

Also done new girl Kim from Globle, very hot and sensitive for fuck, short black hairs, tattoos.

Angel from World is brunette long hairs, very small with wonderful natural big tits, friend of my Isabella, good luck for Isabella in Italy, Angel is very friendly and sweet like many girls in World.

Unfortunately no Lexi tonight, but worked on Thursday.

Member #4581
03-07-15, 05:02
That's a funny line, good one.

I guess, the bartenders would be exceptions. I mean, who is checking on them.

And if a guy happens to bring a lady guest? Never saw them myself, probably happens quite infrequently.


It's probably the only unshaved pussy you will see at Oase. Has been there for years. Never scratched me. Going in and out the front door.

HB.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 09:23
That's a funny line, good one.

I guess, the bartenders would be exceptions.Don't think you're ever going to see the bartender's pussy. LOL.

HB.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 10:25
Did she tell you she doesn't kiss everybody? Lots of girls tend to say they don't kiss everybody.It goes without saying, that girls have varying levels of tolerance or chemistry for customer. Not many girls can stand every customer. Also some are more into kissing than others. Depends if girl is motivated to provide it.

Sometimes a guy writes that a particular girl doesn't DFK. Another will write that she does indeed DFK. When Ramona first started at Sharks, she would DFK me for the full hour session. Lately seems to avoid me. Maybe I am too much hard work and take too long to cum. The chemistry seems to have worn off. She remains possibly prettiest face girl in the club. Body not really my spec, being a skinny legs fan.

I also find black haired Laura-Crudutsa "Portmann" very attractive, and body is my spec. She doesn't want to session me, so have never tried. Says we can't fuck as are like friends. Says she eats Cipolla (onion) so not nice to kiss. Says I would not enjoy her pussy. Maybe its too small. I don't know exactly the real reason. She does seem to like younger men. I have no clue if she could be motivated to provide good DFK and a good session, or to provide the service that would pick up plenty of regular customers. She is no where near as busy as her looks warrant.

Sirioja
03-07-15, 10:52
Orange domestic cat. Stay away from this cat. It is really mean and ornery. It will scratch you without warning. You have been warned! DON'T GO NEAR IT! That one is only for looking, not for touching.

Unlike other pussy there, this one is immune to offers of more Euros or extended session time.It is very quiet and seems afraid now, it may likes me more than some naked pussy too small like actress Laura brunette with socks or Carla small brunette with big tits, only kitten, not real pussy yet.

Craiova
03-07-15, 11:23
She remains possibly prettiest face girl in the club. Body not really my spec, being a skinny legs fan.Yep similar pretty face like your fav Erika / Carla and skinny legs as your fav Crina, both also Oase. OMG, no more words! LOL.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 11:26
Friday LU, of 87 girls plus a few unnamed would give 90+ girls at 9:30PM. ** = for girls seen first time by me in Oase.
First time I saw Bella and Katia for months.
Had to remove Bra comments. LOL. Really enjoyed to see some big swinging tits on Maria, Donna, Edda, etc. Corsets seemed to be banned as well. I like it. These things used to interfere with the flow of the curves.

** ? , another new blonde, name forgot.
** Angie (ex-World), black haired very slim small girl with amazing pointy C cup naturals
** Anja/Anya(Rus?), tall voluptuous build curly blonde hair, C+ cups, implants?
** Cheyenne, from NRW clubs, slim curvy with short blonde hair
** Edda, voluptuous brunette, very pretty face, upturned nose, big naturals
** Kim, slim short black hair, small pretty face, several tats, from Globe?
** Sarah, medium length curly blonde hair, B cup implants
** Tara, moderately slim with brown hair, face slightly similar to Sabina-Ramona but more angular (pretty)

* Adina, wide C cups, med length straight auburn hair
* Alexa, tall, lip piercing, now d. blondish hair, corset often
* Alexandra, l.t. short girl, big mop of curly dark hair
* Alexia (Rom) l.t. with glasses, model body
* Alice, tall voluptuous curvy dark blonde (tied up), narrow face
* Alice, voluptuous C implants, brown hair
* Alicia (Rom/Mol), l.t. tall brunette, B cups
* Amelia(Rom), l.t. tall slim tanned brunette, A cups
* Anca(Rom), 178 cm reddish brunette, C implants (look natural)
* Andrea(ex. Emma World)slim, B cups, curly dark blonde hair
* Andrea(Rom ex. MH?), slim blonde (with black streaks), strip of jeans material, lower lip piercing, B- cups, tat above left ankle
* Anna/"Linge"(Rom) slim brunette, torpedo implants
* Beatrice(Rom ex-Atl.), very pretty platinum blonde, C- cups
* Bianca(Rom), l.t. tall slim model body brunette A cups, big eyes, a.k.a Vanessa, Montana, Anna-Maria, Bibi
* Carla, short slim black haired girl, C cups
* Cassandra(Rom), new tall brunette with pale skin, friend of Eliz(Cze)
* Chrissy, platinum blonde, big C+ implants
* Christina(Rom), slim model body, platinum blonde, may have black bow-tie
* Claudia(Hun), l.t. voluptuous platinum blonde
* Crina(Rom), l.t. C- cups, brunette
* Dana, new tall slim black haired friend of Leya.
* Diana(Rom) red curly hair, paired with Deborah
* Diana, voluptuous platinum blonde often with spiral curled ends, C cups
* Donna "Suge"(Rom), voluptuous platinum blonde bombshell with D cups (often covered), butterfly tats left leg to waist
* Elena(Rom), l.t. slim tall blonde
* Elizabeth(Hun), voluptuous very pretty, pale blue-green eyes, C+ cups
* Erica, new? tied tight black ponytail, slim eyelashes, tanned
* Eveline, new slim pretty blonde, shapely ass, small A cups
* Fidan/Elvira(Tur) voluptuous dark blonde, sometimes spiral curls, B cups
* Francesca, cute curvy blonde, A cups
* Gloria(Rom) l.t. brunette, tanned skin.
* Irena(Rom), l.t. slim pretty, tan skin, B cups
* Isabella (Pol), l.t. very popular, m. short blonde hair, perky A cups
* Jamila (Cub), l.t. voluptuous black girl
* Janey(Bul) voluptuous curly black hair tied back and glasses.
* Jessica, l.t. slim brunette (now blonde) with face piercing
* Juicy Lucy, slim, light brown hair
* Julia(Rom), l.t. tall slim model body, acts like sister of Alexia
* Julia, new medium build brunette,
* Karina(Rus?) voluptuous tall platinum blonde
* Karina, tall dark blonde, A cups, sister of Gloria and Magda.
* Kati/"Stropi-nella"(Rom), tall pretty slim blonde
* Katia (Rom) B cups, voluptuous dark red hair, since 2013?, returning after long break
* Keisha(Rom) "Demi Moore", punkish porn star look, very playful
* Laura, curvy B Cups, blonde hair (partly up-tied), maybe glasses, can do porn star
* Laura/Crudutsa (Rom) "Portmann"/"Crudu", slim curvy, black hair, B- cups
* Laurie/Lori (ex. Laura-Sharks), golden blonde, C+ cups
* Leya/Lea. Platinum blonde moved from World
* Louisa(Mar) v.l.t. slanty Egyptian eyes makeup, A cups, shorter blondish hair (was long black).
* Magda, (not the sister) new, dark blonde hair, black model above lip, pretty face, glasses
* Marguerite/Magda (Rom ex-Daria) A cups, slim blonde, significant lower back tats, sister of Gloria and Karina
* Maria, slim brunette with blonde highlights, pale skin, pretty face, A- cups
* Maria, tall, curvy reddish blonde, long face, big tits covered, pussy piercing
* Marisol(Rom) voluptuous platinum blonde bombshell
* Mary(Gha), , pretty, black girl
* Maya(Rom)pretty, slim, m. length black hair, maybe ponytail, light skin
* Melissa, slim A cups, long blonde hair, maybe tied up or ponytail
* Mellisa, l.t. slim, brown hair to shoulder, A- cups
* Michelle/Michaela(Bul) v. slim model, small face brunette, "french movie star" nose
* Mira/Pornella(Rom), short brunette, may have bow in hair, friendly
* Monica (Bul) tall C implants "porn star" performance
* Monica(Rom). tall slim, long brunette, A cups
* Nichole, new tall pretty blonde, fabulous tits, sometimes collar
* Raissa, voluptuous, curled brunette
* Ramona(Rom) voluptuous, red hair, now blonde, and angel tat on left leg, red butterfly tat
* Ramona/Sabina(Rom ex-Ramona Sharks), "Scarlet Johannson", very pretty platinum blonde
* Rebecca (Rom) voluptuous, platinum blonde, B+ cups, glasses, maybe plaited ponytail
* Roxanne, l.t. tall blonde often with spiral curls, small waist, exaggerated curves, C cups, lip piercing
* Sabina(Rom) very sexy slim brunette with piercing left above lip also nose, pulsing pussy
* Sabrina(Iris club name) (Rom ex-Alexandra) l.t. slim, very curly dark blonde
* Sandra (Moldavia) l.t. slim dark blonde
* Shelley(Rom) 182 cm light brunette, C-? cups
* Sina/Xena(Deu) slim dark blonde
* Suge-nella/Anais(Rom),dark blonde/brown hair, very pretty face, firm bubble butt
* Suzanne (Jam) voluptuous, stunning high C cups, now with straight red hair
* Vanella?(Raissa MH) (Rom), short slim tanned brown haired, sexy ass, B- cups
* Vanessa/Raissa(Rom), blonde now brown hair, perfect toned slim but curvy body
* Verona(Deu/Cro), voluptuous platinum blonde, friend of May
* Victoria (Pol), l.t. blonde.

Important girls absent (for me):
Lexi, Diana/Simona (of the sisters), Elizabeth(Cze)

The only way to estimate the quantity of girls properly, is to name them. Can only roughly count unnamed girls. In the end it doesn't matter. There are heaps of girls. It only matters how many you want to fuck. Plenty of options for me. Would have liked to try Eveline. She was busy at the wrong time. A few of my regulars, I missed out. Cannot do them all.

No Asian and only 3 black girls: Suzanne, Mary, Jamila. Variety a bit thin. Plenty of Romanians and Bulgarians. For variety go to Palace. I heard rumour they don't want to take any new Romanians in order to create a club option for those who don't like Romanians. That would not be me. Can't see the problem.

Sirioja
03-07-15, 11:58
Anya done and stopped in 20 mn with no kiss provided and asking for fast milk coming is Romanian and not Russian, maybe half / half, pretty natural face but fake boobs, black stockings, said me she was in Oase last summer, she had a blond platinum friend also with fake boobs.

Shayenne small slim blond short hairs is ex Globe. Ch, GT as Carla, LR as Daria, very friendly and funny and speaking a little of french, Italian, Chinese, Russian, English of course, German.

Sabina / Ramona even prettier than Scarlet face, but not the same for legs skin, friendly and smiling after room, maybe have to try again to improve her services.

Kim pretty face short black hairs, many tattoos, new since 3 days, ex Globe. Ch, Romanian from Timisoara.

Dufey
03-07-15, 12:14
And if a guy happens to bring a lady guest? Never saw them myself, probably happens quite infrequently.At World there used to be a mature couple that would come to the club at weekends, but that couple no longer comes now for more than 2 years.

At Mainhattan I have seen high rollers come in with their girl friends to pick a girl to do female, female, male threesome.

At Oase I have seen a few times, not often, couples come into the club and one time a group of four made up of two men and two women come into the club and quite young couples too.

I cannot recall seeing mixed couples come into Sharks.

The girls at World in a mixed group usually wear a robe to distinguish them but have to go topless at a minimum and they can wear a towel around their waist if I recall in keeping with the FKK concept. At Oase the girls wear robes which is given to them by reception but they are not meant to wear underwear like the working girls since it is FKK.

Dufey
03-07-15, 12:16
Actually Mauro had one of his infamous "staff" meetings about a week ago, all girls have to go naked except for Thursday. This is fantastic news that Oase has returned to its roots of full naked for the girls. I hope this ruling remains in place and reverses a long running trend that has diminished the experience for so many since the girls are covering up.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 12:30
Whoops, omitted accidentally:

* Bella, tallish, A cups, lightly tanned skin dark blonde, latin look.

Syzygies
03-07-15, 12:55
This is fantastic news that Oase has returned to its roots of full naked for the girls. I hope this ruling remains in place and reverses a long running trend that has diminished the experience for so many since the girls are covering up.By 1 AM, several girls seemed to have towels wrapped around them, unlike earlier in the night, so not sure what was going on. Perhaps they were feeling cold and the manager was not around. All quite naked before midnight. Andrea still has her little piece of jeans material that covers nothing, and Rebecca had her frilly thing that covers nothing. Just examples. Lack of bras and corsets, knickers, and very few suspender belts (if any) was the very noticeable thing though. Still some stockings. I think Suzanne had fishnet stockings.

Christina all nude, delicious. She used to alternate between covering the top or the bottom.

Harder to recognise some girls without their distinctive bra or corset setup. LOL e.g. Newish Cassandra without a bra looked so much better, and I had to think hard who it was. Many girls had improved looks for me when totally nude. Unlike other guys, I don't find being clothed improves the looks. I won't notice if the receptionist is hot or not.

Only a few of the girls can be really stunning, so sexy nude curves helps a lot for me. First time my eyes were really drawn to certain girls, who I can ignore when they were overdressed.

All nude, is obviously creating some good publicity for the club. LOL. Those who don't want it can still choose dessous days in the clubs. No Thursday in Oase for me.

YamaYama0519
03-07-15, 13:01
Christina all nude, delicious. She used to alternate between covering the top or the bottom.I am glad to hear that Christina is now totally nude.

Dufey
03-07-15, 13:03
By 1 AM, several girls seemed to have towels wrapped around them, unlike earlier in the night, so not sure what was going on. Perhaps they were feeling cold and the manager was not around.Some girls say that they like to wear the bras and corsets since it covers up parts of their body that they do not like. For example, Karina is very flat chested so she tends to wear a bra or some sort of tiny top to cover her nipples but still goes nude for her lower half showing off her bare arse and pussy.

With the ban on the extra clothing the next best thing is to resort to towels to cover up. I know at Bernds the house mother can at times scold the girls for using their towels like blankets instead of to sit on since they are covering up. The problem at Oase is I do not think the house mother does that since the girls may be legitimately taking a break or there are just too many girls for the house mother to police to say take the towel off.

It is, to me at least, a good thing that the extra clothing is banned. It was getting a bit much in that the FKK nude aspect was so diminished.

Sirioja
03-07-15, 14:47
Angel from World is brunette long hairs, very small with wonderful natural big tits, friend of my Isabella, good luck for Isabella in Italy, Angel is very friendly and sweet like many girls in World..I mean Angie, but sweet as an angel.

Banana Boi
03-07-15, 16:08
Has Cheyenne / Daria / Carla gained weight? Syzy listed her as slim curvy.

Keisha sounds interesting to me. Playful punky emo girls are my favourite. Is she pretty?

Craiova
03-07-15, 16:27
Has Cheyenne / Daria / Carla gained weight? Syzy listed her as slim curvy.

Keisha sounds interesting to me. Playful punky emo girls are my favourite. Is she pretty?Curvy on Cheyenne is first of all her interesting hair style. For me more or less a slim girl.

Keisha looks for me quite interesting. But she isn't slim like Cheyenne. She's according german dress code size 36+. Pretty face and funny and interesting outside room behaviour. Only thing I don't like is a midsize tattoo. About her inroom behaviour I know nothing but my gut feeling says guys could have real fun with her.

KatzeInSack
03-07-15, 16:30
Orange domestic cat. Stay away from this cat. It is really mean and ornery. It will scratch you without warning. You have been warned! DON'T GO NEAR IT! That one is only for looking, not for touching.

Unlike other pussy there, this one is immune to offers of more Euros or extended session time.LOL! Yeah, that old Orange cat is immune to the offers. I've noticed that this pussy cat is even more unpredictable compared to some of the girls. Sometimes it will attack you for no reason, so be warned.

At HessenBub, I can tell you that have seen only partially shaved pussy at Oase, so I don't fully agree with you there.

Now, I'm wondering if someone has seen Annabelle recently. She seems gone now for a long time. SZ?

KatzeInSack
03-07-15, 16:41
At World there used to be a mature couple that would come to the club at weekends, but that couple no longer comes now for more than 2 years.

At Mainhattan I have seen high rollers come in with their girl friends to pick a girl to do female, female, male threesome.

At Oase I have seen a few times, not often, couples come into the club and one time a group of four made up of two men and two women come into the club and quite young couples too.

I cannot recall seeing mixed couples come into Sharks.

The girls at World in a mixed group usually wear a robe to distinguish them but have to go topless at a minimum and they can wear a towel around their waist if I recall in keeping with the FKK concept. At Oase the girls wear robes which is given to them by reception but they are not meant to wear underwear like the working girls since it is FKK.I am not a frequent visitor to Oase, however I have seen couple of times during the past 10 months or so, where a mixed couple is visiting Oase. Also at Oase, if a girl is wearing a robe covering whole body, most probably she is a paying guest accompanying a guy.

Another guy once mentioned to me that the girl in a robe was from another FKK. I just though that the guy wanted to perform FFM action with his favourites from two different clubs by bringing one girl to another club.

However that would be an expensive setup.

KatzeInSack.

Craiova
03-07-15, 17:02
Another guy once mentioned to me that the girl in a robe was from another FKK. I just though that the guy wanted to perform FFM action with his favourites from two different clubs by bringing one girl to another club.

However that would be an expensive setup.It's a clear trend for seeing more and more couples in the FKK clubs. Also quite often girls from other clubs are together with a client as a guest. I've seen minimum fivetimes Oase russian Stefie for some hours as a guest together with a client at Mainhattan. Maybe interesting Mainhattan allows only female guests age minimum 21!

Reef LostCause
03-07-15, 17:10
Friday LU, of 87 girls plus a few unnamed would give 90+ girls at 9:30PM. ** = for girls seen first time by me in Oase.

* Julia(Rom), l.t. tall slim model body, acts like sister of Alexia
* Julia, new medium build brunette,
Would "Julia" be pronounced "You-lia" by a Romanian girl instead of "Joo-lia" by an English speaker?

I'm trying to keep track of a girl I sessioned last Monday afternoon, pretty dark hir Romanian w / tatoo on lower back.

McAdonis
03-07-15, 17:48
Has Cheyenne / Daria / Carla gained weight? She is the ex-GT / LR girl, correct? She looked the same size to me at Oase two weeks ago. I did not recognize her, but she recognized me. I only know about her because I talked to a Belgian monger at LR one time who recommended her. Not my type unfortunately.

McAdonis
03-07-15, 17:58
Angie from World has been at Oase now for a few days. Told me about all the rule problems at World that caused girls to leave. Very small girl. Big natural tits. Fortunately pussy not so small. Nice session including kissing with tongue. Not for everyone the kissing but she liked me OK.

I tried Angie two weeks ago at Oase. Can't remember if I attempted DFK. I just know the 2-3 times I tried her at World and Sharks she didn't do it. She doesn't seem to like penetration. I mean if I don't cum in less than 10 minutes she either will start complaining or change her body language to show me that she is displeased. Love her body though!

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 18:10
Cheyenne aka Carla has definitely put on weight since I first saw her 5 years ago at GT, at that time she had 43 kg. Not too much difference to the last time I saw her at LR. There's some older photos on Westside's homepage if I remember correctly.

She walked past me in her street clothes at Oase. I thought I knew her from somewhere. When she was naked I remembered. She also remembered me from LR, but not from GT.

HB.

Faceless78
03-07-15, 19:28
I am not a frequent visitor to Oase, however I have seen couple of times during the past 10 months or so, where a mixed couple is visiting Oase. Also at Oase, if a girl is wearing a robe covering whole body, most probably she is a paying guest accompanying a guy.

Another guy once mentioned to me that the girl in a robe was from another FKK. I just though that the guy wanted to perform FFM action with his favourites from two different clubs by bringing one girl to another club.

However that would be an expensive setup.

KatzeInSack.I've seen 2 times of women with robe in Oase, both in summer. First one was with a man together, seemed like a mid-age couple from local or something, sitting in the dinner room, didn't look very happy; second one was bit interesting. It's an Asian girl (later I learned it's Korean). My friend is quite into Asian girls so he wen't ask who was this one. And other girls told him this one was just come to learn some sex skills to please her BF. I'm not sure it's a joke or what, I only got second handed info myself. But we've only seen her for that one night.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 19:47
From time to time you see couples in FKKs:

- real couples looking for a change, an adventure, a MFF threesome.

- guys taking their mistress to the club instead of a hotel.

- guys taking a girl from another club to be able to have a threesome with a particular girl from that club.

- girls not working anymore doing escort and chosing a club instead of a hotel.

- girls asking a regular client to take them to another club, either one they haven't been to or one they've been working before to re visit.

HB.

Vito Corleone
03-07-15, 20:15
Has Cheyenne / Daria / Carla gained weight? Syzy listed her as slim curvy.
Not sure what she looks like currently, but end of Jan. She looked the same. Not as tight toned like her early GT days, but just a bit more curvy now. Still looks good.

KatzeInSack
03-07-15, 20:19
It's a clear trend for seeing more and more couples in the FKK clubs. Also quite often girls from other clubs are together with a client as a guest. I've seen minimum fivetimes Oase russian Stefie for some hours as a guest together with a client at Mainhattan. Maybe interesting Mainhattan allows only female guests age minimum 21!Good info Craiova and thanks.

Well, luckily Steffie is well over 21 LOL, but she is still a good looking girl.

It costs 110 Euros (paid to the club) just get a girl out of the club for few hours and in addition pay 100 € per hour to the girl. So it's rather expensive way to enjoy the time.

Personally, I never had issue finding two attractive girls from Oase at any given evening.

KatzeInSack.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 20:42
It costs 110 Euros (paid to the club) just get a girl out of the club for few hours and in If you are stupid enough to take her directly from the club on a day she is working. You really think that's the way it works? Come on.

HB.

KatzeInSack
03-07-15, 21:04
If you are stupid enough to take her directly from the club on a day she is working. You really think that's the way it works? Come on.

HB.I just informed the price to get a working girl out of the Oase club.

Surely you can try to arrange it differently but for some people, including me, who doesn't stay in Frankfurt for longer period, it would be a lot of hassle to make that "cheaper" and probably not worth it.

Obviously you do think that paying money for extra convenience is stupid?

Whats next? Go for freebies?

KatzeInSack.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 21:09
Whats next? Go for freebies?Sure. Why not?

Back to topic: Why not get the girls mobile number, arrange a meeting outside the club. Period. And yes, I think paying THE CLUB to be allowed to take a girl outside is stupid.

HB.

UShobbyist
03-07-15, 22:27
Actually Mauro had one of his infamous "staff" meetings about a week ago, all girls have to go naked except for Thursday. Juicy wasn't happy at all.

HB.This is a very good news for me because I hate any tattoos on the girls' private parts.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 22:58
This is a very good news for me because I hate any tattoos on the girls' private parts.Pardonnez mois?

HB.

Faceless78
03-07-15, 23:01
Sure. Why not?

Back to topic: Why not get the girls mobile number, arrange a meeting outside the club. Period. And yes, I think paying THE CLUB to be allowed to take a girl outside is stupid.

HB.Sure I feel the same when I heard about it. But at least Oase agrees girls to meet customers outside, some clubs don't allow theirs to do this, threaten to fire them, which brings me extra troubles.

Hessen Bub
03-07-15, 23:38
But at least Oase agrees girls to meet customers outside, some clubs don't allow theirs to do this, threaten to fire them, which brings me extra troubles.Oase has the same rules if you meet a girl and don't pay the fee. And Mauro will occasionally fire girl who've been working at other clubs.

I've never had trouble or caused a girl trouble when meeting outside. Even when picking them up directly in front of the club with guests watching the girl (s) entering my car. LOL.

HB.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 01:03
Now, I'm wondering if someone has seen Annabelle recently. She seems gone now for a long time. SZ?You can read the lists. I am not there all the time though. Haven't seen her for some time, including not late last year.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 01:06
When I said Cheyenne was curvy, I mean not a straight body shape, but still slim. Good waist to thigh ratio. Body type that I go for. So slim but not excessively slim.

However Kim was slimmer I think and Angie too.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 01:10
I tried Angie two weeks ago at Oase. Can't remember if I attempted DFK. I just know the 2-3 times I tried her at World and Sharks she didn't do it. She doesn't seem to like penetration. I mean if I don't cum in less than 10 minutes she either will start complaining or change her body language to show me that she is displeased. Love her body though!I did not experience any limitations that you mention. YMMV. I do not fuck fast and hard.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 01:19
Sure I feel the same when I heard about it. But at least Oase agrees girls to meet customers outside, some clubs don't allow theirs to do this, threaten to fire them, which brings me extra troubles.Sometimes the girl's boyfriend is the much bigger area of concern. Is best if both club and boyfriend know nothing.

Faceless78
03-08-15, 03:06
Oase has the same rules if you meet a girl and don't pay the fee. And Mauro will occasionally fire girl who've been working at other clubs.

I've never had trouble or caused a girl trouble when meeting outside. Even when picking them up directly in front of the club with guests watching the girl (s) entering my car. LOL.

HB.Some clubs have rule against meeting outside, but I still managed to get some girls to agree a date. Yet, she needs to make excuse for absent, leave alone, and meet me somewhere. When people are concerning being caught, date is not that fun any more, even thought the trouble is not mine.

In oase, I know it's ok, I've done couples of times.

Dufey
03-08-15, 04:30
Pardonnez mois?

HB.To explain USHobbyist, what he is meaning is that with the enforcement of proper FKK naked is that girls will no longer cover up their pussy area so that USHobbyist can now check to make sure the girl has not defaced her pussy with a tattoo.

Hessen Bub
03-08-15, 09:30
To explain USHobbyist, what he is meaning is that with the enforcement of proper FKK naked is that girls will no longer cover up their pussy area so that USHobbyist can now check to make sure the girl has not defaced her pussy with a tattoo.Now that makes senses. Thanks. There's nothing more disgusting than tattoos on or above breasts or pussy.

HB.

Shark16
03-08-15, 09:39
Monica. Bu: Saturday sighting confirmed (nighshift).

No clothes policy intact. Except for a few towels around waist sometimes.

Ortos
03-08-15, 09:55
I've never had trouble or caused a girl trouble when meeting outside. Even when picking them up directly in front of the club with guests watching the girl (s) entering my car. LOL.

HB.I guess they assumed you were just another pimp picking up his girl (s). LOL.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 10:28
Now that makes senses. Thanks. There's nothing more disgusting than tattoos on or above breasts or pussy.

HB.Tattoos above breasts is horrific as it shows in public when girls is dressed but showing some cleavage. Although I don't like tatoos at all, nor piercings, we have to get used it due to extreme prevalence. I have been unable to accept nose, lip and pussy rings. Hard to find girls with no tatoos and no piercings but did have one or two recently. Its nice. If no smoking as well, a huge bonus.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 10:32
Monica. Bu: Saturday sighting confirmed (nighshift).

No clothes policy intact. Except for a few towels around waist sometimes.How was line up compared to Friday? Any special extra girls showed up? Normally I would attend Saturday rather than Friday.

Hessen Bub
03-08-15, 10:41
I guess they assumed you were just another pimp picking up his girl (s). LOL.True. That's what some girls were asked. Just strange that the license plate was German.

HB.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 11:11
Has Cheyenne / Daria / Carla gained weight? Syzy listed her as slim curvy.Shayenne is about 1,58 and 45 kg small tits, very friendly to speak, more than in LR, not working this Saturday.

Roxana was back.

Even not the prettiest, Lexi seems to become the superstar of Oase, full busy on Thursday and Saturday with long meetings with fat or old, maybe she selects easier clients now?

Other girls saying not working much like Beatrice or Juicy or Angie.

For the very friendly and smiling Sabina / Ramona, one of the prettiest face in Oase with beautiful teeth, her days off are Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, may try to improve GFE with her, she says not kissing "usually" but. And even pretty face, very friendly and smiling, her services are only average at the moment.

2 girls from Sharks arrived this Saturday 1 blond and 1 brunette with wings tattoo above tits, who sharked in Sharks, as Angie ex World they come to Oase because no work at Sharks or World.

There were quite many men on Friday and Saturday but except Lexi on Saturday finishing at midnight, other girls were not busy, like blond Cristina, Beatrice, Roxana, Anya, Juicy, Anaïs / Suzinella, Tropinella. It, Laura brunette.

After good surprise on Thursday night with Anaïs / Suzi who is able to provide interesting services if she wants and I think she provides anal, she asked me for money on Friday night but had not the good behavior to have money from me on Friday and Saturday problem about Roxana, maybe only a single meeting, never repeated?

Dufey
03-08-15, 11:18
The car park was fairly empty when I arrived at 11:15 am. Entrance 70 euro was paid. After getting changed into a robe, I went to have a breakfast of bacon, fried eggs and salad. That was nice. There were a few regulars I knew in the club so I spoke to them for a bit.

First girl was Laura ro with whom I spent 2 hours with. We started in the Kino with some fondling, kissing then to the room. We had several bouts in our time comprising of BBBJ, DATY and sex in various holes and cracks. There was also DFK, ball licking during the blowjob, massage on her and massage on me and hair playing with her long straight silky hair. There was even holding of her long hair pulled back for my balance and leverage as we fucked in doggie style. The side on view of that position in the full length mirror was really memorable and porno like. Laura is recommended for a repeat for her variety of services and positive personable attitude in the room. I only managed the one come shot in the 2 hours of play. Laura is recommended and I would repeat her.

For after sex sales service, Laura would continue to acknowledge me with air kisses, pats, and eye contact as we past each other by. She was happy for me to touch her intimately as we passed since she said it means I was not ignoring her and I remember her.

Dinner was deep fried battered calamari and then there was also calamari and shrimp in the salads as well which was really nice. This seafood only lasted an hour or two. Later on came the usual grilled German sausage selection, chicken slices and pork slices. I did not feel like I needed to order anything extra from the a la carte menu. This was enough.

Later in the evening I had at 10 pm a one hour massage with Thai chubby woman for 60 euro. Worth a repeat of her good massage if she is around.

I had in my mind to boost my numbers of girls so a threesome with short haired blonde and tattooed Julie ro and long straight haired blonde Sabina Ramona ro came to mind. The session went to the 45 minute mark. I did not need to milk out the last 15 minutes as I was not up for it after I came. It was just me. I mean it is every man's fantasy to disappoint two women at once is it not?

I had agreed with Julie and Sabina to go with them but I was having my massage booked and I did not want to be rushed. So the girls waited for me while I had the massage and I had a 10 minute cool down after my massage in the relax room and took a shower before joining them.

In the room the girls kept upselling so I had to deal with that to stop the whining for extras. So in the end DFK was possible with both the girls. I did not need them to perform lesbian show or ball licking especially with the extra 50 euro cost of each. The BBBJ from each girl was excellent. Both girls worked hard to deep throat competing with the other girl taking their turns. Both girls were working on kissing me and kissing and licking my chest while the other sucked and other alternatives of who was doing what at which stage. I performed DATY on each as they sat on my face in turn. The BBBJ stage took the most time as I was enjoying it so much to have these two blondes trying to get my cock down to the back of their throats. I then fucked Julie first and then fucked Sabina second. Sabina kept eye contact the whole time whether face to face or in the mirror when she was facing away from me like in doggie style. Julie was playing with my arse and fiddling with my tits or kissing me as I fucked Sabina. I then concentrated on Sabina's face looking sexily at me, licking her lips and willing me to come with her eyes. I then lose my rag and pumped my come into Sabina. I was well worn out.

Then the girls had a smoke and I gave them both a massage as they relaxed side by side with me over them. The massage more to feel them up really but both girls were complementary on my technique and skill in relaxing their muscles and enjoyed it. When further tips demanded at the end when it came to pay time at the pay lockers this was refused. I would only repeat each girl on a single basis and only with the services made clear up front of what was included or excluded. Julie was the better performer but Sabina was the better looking for the visuals and fantasy element that works a lot. For after sales service, both Julie and Sabina when we passed each by in the club or they happen to see me sitting somewhere would blow air kisses at me, wave and smile to me. It is nice to be remembered and acknowledged.

The girls present included: Adelina ro blonde; Alina ro the black haired sad looking one; Crina ro; Daria Madga ro blonde, she has put on weight; Jennifer ro bee sting lips; Juicy Lucy dark blonde; Julie ro short haired blonde, friend of Sabina Ramona; Karina ro blonde, A cups; Katerina Ru dark hair, glasses; Laura Livia ro platinum blonde, petite, always happy and playful; Louisa Maroc; Lucia ro; Lexi ro milky white skin blonde; Marta ro reddish brown hair; Melissa ro black haired; Nicole ro blonde gorgeous glamour looking model type, bad service in the room; Raisa ro ex Mainhattan, skinny, brown haired, petite, hard bodied, be cup breasts, intriguing look; Sabina long dark hair, hook nose, wore red lingerie, stockings, corset; Sabina Ramona ro, blonde, brown eyes, incredibly pretty face, but a big arse proportionately giving her the child bearing hip look; Samira ro blonde, good looking, nice tits, ex Yin Yang; Sina de blonde, tattoos on her legs only German; Verona HR platinum blonde; Victoria pl only Polish in the house today. Girls not present: Beatrice ro; Isabella pl; Steffie ru platinum blonde;.

Damage for today was 930 euro. Some good work was done today which may need a little recovery.

In addition I spent another 280 euro for six prepaid entries for future use at Oase, working out at 46.67 euro per entry. This is a nice saving of 140 euro.

I left at 3 am for sleep.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 11:24
Tattoos above breasts is horrific as it shows in public when girls is dressed but showing some cleavage. Although I don't like tatoos at all, nor piercings, we have to get used it due to extreme prevalence. I have been unable to accept nose, lip and pussy rings. Hard to find girls with no tatoos and no piercings but did have one or two recently. Its nice. If no smoking as well, a huge bonus.Oh yes, no smoking for real DFK, no tattoo, no piercing, girls like this are much more attractive and prettier, my favs are like this and they taste much better than Miss cigarette.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 11:33
Seems that Raissa of MH now calls herself Vanella. No idea how to spell it. Recent visit she tried to get me a couple of times but my first session wasn't good enough to consider repeat. Think she kept wanting to change positions to perhaps throw me off my build up and eventually take CIM. Wasn't at all busy on this Friday despite good body.

I am generally. not keen on girls overly desperate to get a CIM bonus. One tactic I used with Beatrice once was to say I will give her a nice tip for a great session without CIM. She then asked "you mean like my last bonus?" I could not remember giving her a last bonus. Oh dear! She could remember. LOL Have to be careful before she expects bonus every time. At least she knows she has to deliver good GFE in order to get any tip. Her memory of certain other things about our past sessions wasn't so vivid. LOL Remembers the money matters perfectly. LOL That is the part I forget. I well understand your approach to defeating the upsell talk in a session.

Some girls want to do CIM but have a toothy BBBJ where I could not possibly CIM. I usually end up giving up with girls that have very toothy BJ or have no slow gear, but occasionally take if all other things are good. Good kissing works for me in place of a BJ.

Girls that are BBBJ specialists are not for me, perhaps excepting only the famous Czech Linda/Adriana of former years.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 11:36
Laura, Juicy maybe sister? Is not in Oase at the moment.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 12:17
A Saturday Oase regular was at Sharks yesterday. He does not feel welcome at Oase any more. Drawback of knowing the big boss or manager. Seems he adviced some new German girls they would better of to work at Sharks. Not clear why he thought that. Brunette skinny Angie (Rom) seems to have chosen Oase presumably because she is more busy there. Competition from super stars at Sharks is very strong and man numbers are surprisingly weak on some days. I don't see that Sharks German girls are that busy other than Sandra.

Dufey
03-08-15, 12:53
A Saturday Oase regular was at Sharks yesterday. He does not feel welcome at Oase any more. Drawback of knowing the big boss or manager. Seems he adviced some new German girls they would better of to work at Sharks. Not clear why he thought that. Brunette skinny Angie (Rom) seems to have chosen Oase presumably because she is more busy there. Competition from super stars at Sharks is very strong and man numbers are surprisingly weak on some days. I don't see that Sharks German girls are that busy other than Sandra.I think there is some self interest with regulars asking their favourite girls to go to a club that is more conveniently located to them or to get all their favourite girls into one club so it is easier for them to choose from them instead of having favourite girls spread across a number of clubs so that they end up having to choose a club for a particular girl. Think how much money you would save in logistics if there was only one go to club where all your best girls were?

You may recall Lena SK who was a top earner in her time at Oase with a large and loyal following of punters that all nearly took one hour minimum sessions was asked by a regular to relocate to work in Das 5th Element in Fulda. As many know here that club is a great one for food and facilities for the men to relax in with live cooking and all new wellness area that is highly equipped. But the software at Das 5th Element is third rate and lowly attended by the girls with no real stunners then in all my visits to that club. Why would a man recommend Lena to move her business from Oase where she is well established to a club like 5th Element?

Then again for this man who is a Saturday regular at Oase, how does he know that the work prospects are better at Sharks on a Saturday? Even you say that you cannot see the German contingent at Sharks to be earning that much more than their German counterparts at Oase.

Another German girl that does well at Sharks is Sally the Turkish German girl from Cologne. When she is in the club she is fairly busy with local customers.

I am sure that the German fan club of Janine would not ever recommend Janine to work anywhere else but at Sharks since it keeps her in one place. I mean where would the fan club of Janine hang out all sitting around Janine if she was to move to Oase. As you know the area Janine and her fan club monopolise is the couches near the reception and opposite the pay lockers. I cannot think of a conveniently located area that can be reserved for a group in Oase since the numbers and turnover is so great to allow a specific group to take over an area of the club to just sit together for hours and hours so surround one girl.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 12:56
I was with Angie yesterday, I know Angie for 1 year as Isabella, my ex fav retired, friend, she doesn' t work much at Oase and left World and her regulars because of management in World at the moment and club empty, she has no regular yet in Oase and is too shy to go to men, she looked and smiled at me all day and with problem Roxana / Suzinella, I made mistake to go with her even very friendly, sweet and pretty with amazing natural tits, but not attracted enough in room because not real active DFK even she said me she can do better next time, frustrating for both, only 30 mn, because we like each other, we often speak and she said me she knows me for a long time at World, bad day of work for her like for many other girls in Oase on this Saturday.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 13:32
I don t agree, Lexi who is not a top model seems to be full busy at Oase, Sandra. De is not so busy even one of the busiest at Sharks, I would not for good advice say to my fav to go to Sharks because not the best to make money, Oase or GT are better with more clients.

Dufey
03-08-15, 14:36
Just strange that the license plate was German.Per attached The latest statistical report from the BKA on Trafficking in Human Beings from 2010 has that the biggest group of suspects of this crime were Germans 26%, then second Bulgarians 20% then Romanians at 13%. The usual nationality we suspect of trafficking and pimping being Turkish is a lowly 6%.

As for victims of trafficking of humans for sexual trafficking the biggest groups were almost evenly split between Germans, Romanians and Bulgarians.

Although the more recent 2012 BKA Organised Crime Situation report had most suspects of Criminal activity report has collectively that most suspects were from South West Europe meaning the Balkans with Germans, Romanians and Bulgarians as the main perpetrators but Romanians making the most of the victims.

http://www.bka.de/nn_194552/EN/Publications/PoliceCrimeStatistics/policeCrimeStatistics__node.html?__nnn=true

The attached link to the Wikipedia entry on Prostitution in Germany especially the modern era section in the second half of the article talks about recent cases from the clubs we all know like Pascha, Coliseum, flat rate clubs and so on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany

Dufey
03-08-15, 14:52
Laura, Juicy maybe sister? Is not in Oase at the moment.You are correct that Laura is not at Oase right now. She was at World for two days then is working somewhere else.

Dufey
03-08-15, 14:56
Other girls saying not working much like Beatrice or Juicy or Angie.

other girls were not busy, like blond Cristina, Beatrice, Roxana, Anya, Juicy, Anas / Suzinella, Tropinella. It, Laura brunette.The girls seem to be complaining more than ever there is no business. One girl says she made just 200 euro on Friday since she was new and then just 50 euro on Saturday and she worked a really long day in the club. Then from this money they pay maybe 95 euro to the club for entry and taxes and maybe more if they stay in the club.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 15:54
5 years ago and more, some of these clubs were packed out on a busy night and was hard to move around. Where did all the men go? Why can't they afford to fuck any more? There are still times at Oase when all the rooms are full and there is a 5 to 10 minute wait. Friday night at 8:30 or 9 PM roughly. However the business levels are inconsistent. On Saturday, many guys want to watch the football with higher priority than going to a room with the girls?

Is it really that there are now too many clubs in Frankfurt, and one or two need to die? Do customers want a huge choice of 90 girls or is that quite unnecessary?

With some of the super star girls of the past, they worked hard to provide top service to go with their looks, and became famous enough to make quite consistent money. E. g. Lavinia may not have been stunning (well above average though) nor absolute top class for skills, but was honest, nice personality and had a great work ethic, and became popular. She was smart enough to know how to work and give great GFE. Lexi seems to have business really taking off. Not sure why yet, but her looks are about same standard as Lavinia to me, maybe slightly more exotic. Maybe she is learning to work smart too. Or maybe has the very amateur inexperienced vibe, making the experience more real or less professional. Elizabeth (Cze) has consistent good business. She is not exactly sweet, but gives a good GFE and has skills, to go with well above average looks. She has improved over time, even though was good when she first started at Oase. Isabella, a long term superstar sweetie, is probably finding less business. I notice her more available these days.

Its very tough for the girls with average looks, even if the service is spectacular. I think of Sabina with top class service (for me), and a great body, but still not that busy. Its also tough for the lookers if their service is not top class. Not many (or maybe none) girls at Oase have it all and have as much work as they need.

Nickc
03-08-15, 15:55
Hi guys thanks for the helpful reports. Just inquiring, regarding numbers of girls etc is there much difference between Sunday, Monday and Tuesday? I assume the answer may also be partly dependant on what Expo shows are in at the time. Obviously there would be far less than on a Saturday or Friday.

Cheers Nickc.

PChew
03-08-15, 16:09
Is it really that there are now too many clubs in Frankfurt, and one or two need to die? Do customers want a huge choice of 90 girls or is that quite unnecessary?
My 2 cents. Can't say what happened 5 years ago as I haven't started yet.

With the euro exchange rate falling I found FKK even cheaper. No need for 90 girls to choose from. As long as there are 4-5 good looking girls to choose from that's enough.

Recently I shifted from Frankfurt to NRW clubs for similar reason. Quality is no where as good but there are a few good looking girls that's sufficient for me. What's more important is variety. I don't think there are too many clubs in Frankfurt. I actually want more so I can choose and that keep the prices down.

Hessen Bub
03-08-15, 16:15
You are correct that Laura is not at Oase right now. She was at World for two days then is working somewhere else.She's on holiday.

HB.

Hessen Bub
03-08-15, 16:19
Per attached The latest statistical report from the BKA on Trafficking in Human Beings from 2010 has that the biggest group of suspects of this crime were Germans 26%, then second Bulgarians 20% then Romanians at 13%. The usual nationality we suspect of trafficking and pimping being Turkish is a lowly 6%.

Thanks. I never believe in statistics I didn't doctor myself. These are numbers from the cases that have made it into the statistics. As Romanian girls represent the largest group of WG in German FKK I'd guess that Romanian "fish" also represent the largest group amongst traffickers.

HB.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 16:29
She's on holiday.

HB.No, after World Laura works in Switzerland said Juicy this week-end because not enough work in Oase.

Sirioja
03-08-15, 16:32
Hi guys thanks for the helpful reports. Just inquiring, regarding numbers of girls etc is there much difference between Sunday, Monday and Tuesday? I assume the answer may also be partly dependant on what Expo shows are in at the time. Obviously there would be far less than on a Saturday or Friday.

Cheers Nickc.Sunday can be quite similar to Friday and Saturday and much better than Monday and Tuesday.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 16:45
Recently I shifted from Frankfurt to NRW clubs for similar reason. Quality is no where as good but there are a few good looking girls that's sufficient for me. What's more important is variety. What sort of variety? Do you mean more nationalities other than Romanian? You could get that at the Palace, if you can stand the upsell levels, and the number of girls giving 15 minutes sessions or no kissing. LOL Or do you mean more siliconised tattooed bikie chicks? Can find that at Palace too. LOL To be fair, its quite a while since I checked out the Palace. Very few slim natural pretty faced, sweet girls, last time. I am bound to show up there some time soon.

Oase surprises me with low levels of Silicone, and dwindling nationalities to choose from. Only 3 black girls last time, no Asians, and can't remember if any Germans were present. Close to 90% Romanians, my favourite, along with Czech, Slovakian, Hungarian (if present)! LOL

McAdonis
03-08-15, 16:50
Is it really that there are now too many clubs in Frankfurt, and one or two need to die? Do customers want a huge choice of 90 girls or is that quite unnecessary?

Five years ago, I probably devoted 25 days a year in the big Hessen clubs, when it was just Oase, World, and Palace. About 80% of those visits were Oase. In late 2013, I stepped foot in the NRW clubs for the first time. Now I prefer the NRW clubs much more.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 16:56
In late 2013, I stepped foot in the NRW clubs for the first time. Now I prefer the NRW clubs much more.You have to give a reason. Some other guys are moving away from that. I heard GT is not busy any more except weekends.

I think that Oase has not fully recovered the business it lost during the Restaurant food charge saga. Many of those Germans went elsewhere and may never return. I returned 2014 largely due to a World reduction in my favourites and same for Sharks at the time, but late 2013 I was definitely bored by line up at Oase.

PChew
03-08-15, 17:01
What sort of variety? Do you mean more nationalities other than Romanian? You could get that at the Palace, if you can stand the upsell levels, and the number of girls giving 15 minutes sessions or no kissing. LOL I am easily bored, and I hate to get stuck to only one girl in a club. I need at least 2-3 whom I can go with. Variety for me means new environment and new faces.



Oase surprises me with low levels of Silicone, and dwindling nationalities to choose from. Only 3 black girls last time, no AsiansLI never like the Asian I saw in europe. There are much better choices in the Far East. I stick to EE girls with no silicone.

Oase has best average lineup and most number of top stunners compared with NRW from my last visit 2 months ago. Now I am a bit bored of NRW after several recent trips I am planning to go back to Oase / Sharks in my next trip.

PChew
03-08-15, 17:02
You have to give a reason. Some other guys are moving away from that. I heard GT is not busy any more except weekends.GT was really disappointing with no stunners and average age a few years above Oase's girls. Services are still ok.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 17:22
GT was really disappointing with no stunners and average age a few years above Oase's girls. Services are still ok.Some Oase girls indicated they could not work at the Palace as they are not yet 21 years old. Personally I don't care about the age and take girls over 30 no problem, late 20s regularly.

Dufey
03-08-15, 18:28
5 years ago and more, some of these clubs were packed out on a busy night and was hard to move around. Where did all the men go? Why can't they afford to fuck any more? There are still times at Oase when all the rooms are full and there is a 5 to 10 minute wait. Friday night at 8:30 or 9 PM roughly. However the business levels are inconsistent. On Saturday, many guys want to watch the football with higher priority than going to a room with the girls?

Is it really that there are now too many clubs in Frankfurt, and one or two need to die? Do customers want a huge choice of 90 girls or is that quite unnecessary?There is some factors that there is less disposable income around since the financial crisis.

"The economic downturn of 2009 has resulted in changes at some brothels. Reduced prices and free promotions are now found. Some changes, the result of modern marketing tools, rebates, gimmicks. Brothels introducing all-inclusive flat-rates, free shuttle buses, discounts for seniors and taxi drivers. "Day passes. " Some brothels reportedly including loyalty cards, group sex parties, rebates for golf players. Clients have reported reducing their number of weekly visits. ".

References are:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Germany

The key support is this Reuters article on the sex industry doing what it can to regain customers and keep them coming back with promotions and cheaper prices like flat rate clubs.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/04/21/us-germany-prostitutes-idUSTRE53K00G20090421

Other thing to note is per this other article the wealth distribution in Germany is uneven.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/26/us-germany-wealth-idUSBREA1P1VJ20140226

http://slackwire.********.co.uk/2014/04/wealth-distribution-and-puzzle-of.html

Also a lot of Germans are in low earning jobs and this number is increasing year on year since 2009. This is happening also in some other Western countries like UK too.

https://www.eurojobs.com/blog/2012/03/14/23-of-germans-earn-less-than-e9-15-per-hour/

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/02/08/us-germany-jobs-idUSTRE8170P120120208

From my perspective when you speak to a few of the real German girls as to why they do this job in the clubs is because they earn so little in their normal jobs. The general number I hear from girls is earning maybe 1000 euro per month in a full time clerical of factory job. That is 12,000 euro per year. From this they pay maybe 500 euro for their apartment and then the rest of the 500 goes on transport for their car, utility bills and food. This is subsistence living.

So these girls supplement their income with working in a club.

You find the same with free lance local Italian girls in Firenze and Milano. I have been approached many times in Milanese clubs by normal girls wanting to make some money and have a good time in the clubs. These girls are not professional working girls, but girls in low paying jobs wanting to make some extra cash and find you okay enough to go home with you for a fee.

In Germany, because of the organised nature of FKKs these girls work in the clubs or in Laufhaus. This is why you get so many German girls that you see only for a short time and never see them again. The key thing is for these free lance girls in my experience is that a pimp does not latch onto them and get them hooked or threatened into working for them. I have seen these pimps working first hand in World where I met a free lance German girl and next thing you know the German girl is running scared when she recognises the guy as from a known gang asking to be her "boyfriend".

PussyLiccker
03-08-15, 18:28
Per attached The latest statistical report from the BKA on Trafficking in Human Beings from 2010 has that the biggest group of suspects of this crime were Germans 26%, then second Bulgarians 20% then Romanians at 13%. The usual nationality we suspect of trafficking and pimping being Turkish is a lowly 6%.

As for victims of trafficking of humans for sexual trafficking the biggest groups were almost evenly split between Germans, Romanians and Bulgarians.
Thanks. I never believe in statistics I didn't doctor myself. These are numbers from the cases that have made it into the statistics. As Romanian girls represent the largest group of WG in German FKK I'd guess that Romanian "fish" also represent the largest group amongst traffickers.

HB.Interesting. He does say that victims are evenly split (Germans, Romanians, and Bulgarians), so if the cases had lots more Romanian victims, the percentage would differ. I don't go as far back as 2010, but percentage of Romanian victims could be higher now, but depends on reportings. That's lower % of Romanians that I would have expected.

Dufey
03-08-15, 18:45
Interesting. He does say that victims are evenly split (Germans, Romanians, and Bulgarians), so if the cases had lots more Romanian victims, the percentage would differ. I don't go as far back as 2010, but percentage of Romanian victims could be higher now, but depends on reportings.PussyLiccker,

You may be right since the comparable study from 2006 by the German BKA had this to say:

"The trafficking in women from Eastern Europe is often organized by perpetrators from that same region. The German Federal Police Office BKA reported in 2006 a total of 357 completed investigations of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), with 775 victims. Thirty-five percent of the suspects were Germans born in Germany and 8% were German citizens born outside of Germany. ".

By 2010, the number of German suspects of trafficking for sexual exploitation had dropped to 26% from 35% in 2006. So maybe by 2015, the number of Germans involved have dropped further as the number of German girls in the clubs have dropped and the number of Romanian girls (the victims) have increased. I tend to agree that the criminal activity is generally perpetrated by their own nationality on their fellows. This is the same in most immigrant groups.

The pimp I saw trying to pick up the free lance German girl to be her "boyfriend" I knew was actually a member of a Romanian chapter of a gang.

Dufey
03-08-15, 18:48
Thanks. I never believe in statistics I didn't doctor myself. These are numbers from the cases that have made it into the statistics. As Romanian girls represent the largest group of WG in German FKK I'd guess that Romanian "fish" also represent the largest group amongst traffickers.As said below to Pussylicker, you are probably right but I could not find the latest BKA reports to confirm that this is the case. The trend seems to be in your favour that the percentage of caught suspects of German nationality is dropping from 2006 (35% of suspects) to 2010 (26% of suspects). All things being equal, the other major groups of suspects being Bulgarian and Romanian would by proportion go up.

McAdonis
03-08-15, 19:08
You have to give a reason. Some other guys are moving away from that. I heard GT is not busy any more except weekends.By "that" do you mean, some guys are shifting their preferences in the opposite direction from NRW to Hessen?

On average many of the NRW clubs are more customer-focused because they want to build and retain a loyal customer base. Dusseldorf is not as metropolitan as Frankfurt, so they don't have the luxury of relying on tourists from other continents. This customer focus extends to the food options and often complementary beer (higher value proposition at 60 EUR). That customer focus also extends to how management quality controls the conduct of the girls-reception will generally act on customer complaints about girls in NRW. To me Oase is starting to become like Palace, where girls constantly upsell or pester you for tips. I don't experience this in NRW at all. Of course, the primary reason we all go is for the "software", so I still check out the Hessen clubs to see if there are any new girls. But even when doing a side-by-side comparison of what matters the most, I still arrive at the same conclusion: the NRW girls are on par if not better than the Hessen girls. In other words, if I were to list out my top ten FKK girls currently working, only about three of them would be based in Hessen area.

Within the past month, I've arrived GT on a Monday at about 1 pm and Tuesday around 3 pm. Both times I grabbed one of the last few parking spots. However on both days, GT main floor looked empty by about 8 pm (only about 10-15 girls on the floor). I'd estimate that GT's attendance is down by about 10-15 percent from last year. Being such a small venue, low attendance numbers aren't as noticeable as they would be at World or Oase. While attendance is relatively the same, there is a common complaint amongst the GT WGs: men are spending less money on rooms. I take this with a grain of salt, because this is coming from girls that are often 5+ year veterans of GT. They are often resentful that they lost business to some of the younger, newer girls. The operative word here is newer. Compared to Hessen clubs, GT has a high proportion of "regulars"both in terms of customers and WGs. So this means the men often get bored because it is "always the same girls". If GT had more tourist customers, perhaps some of the GT old-timer WG's would have a fighting chance to hook customers.

GT recently raised its pricing to 100 EUR per hour. This may have given Dutch customers an excuse to explore the Dutch clubs along the border. Before the Dutch guys probably didn't mind driving the extra 25 km to GT because the per hour pricing was more advantageous. Now maybe some of those GT customers have shifted their loyalty to YinYang instead. So within the last year, I'd say Yin Yang's business has improved.

PussyLiccker
03-08-15, 19:36
There is some factors that there is less disposable income around since the financial crisis.

"The economic downturn of 2009 has resulted in changes at some brothels. Reduced prices and free promotions are now found. Some changes, the result of modern marketing tools, rebates, gimmicks. Brothels introducing all-inclusive flat-rates, free shuttle buses, discounts for seniors and taxi drivers. "Day passes. " Some brothels reportedly including loyalty cards, group sex parties, rebates for golf players. Clients have reported reducing their number of weekly visits. ".
You certainly have done some random research online. The thing is, the information is outdated. What years are you comparing? Also, you talk about Hessen club with lower turn-out, and would take it you are talking about big ones that includes Sharks, Oase, and World. There are lots of variable that would come into play. Percentage of tourists and reguar attendies would give some insight into this. The differences from the reference year you are comparing to.

Are you saying there is noticible drop-off from last year?

Banana Boi
03-08-15, 19:46
I thought the decline in customers at GT was more to do with the fact that GT recently banned some French posters who now post negative things on boards about GT and took away free entry from some Dutch regulars who were there almost daily. My info may be wrong but I recall reading this before.

McAdonis
03-08-15, 19:53
I thought the decline in customers at GT was more to do with the fact that GT recently banned some French posters who now post negative things on boards about GT and took away free entry from some Dutch regulars who were there almost daily. My info may be wrong but I recall reading this before.You are probably right. I am sure there are various reasons that contributed to business dropping off. I am curious how many Dutch posters got their privileges revoked? And could they have been so influential as to encourage others not to attend? Why did they ban the French posters?

McAdonis
03-08-15, 20:02
Are you saying there is noticible drop-off from last year?Only attended once since December / January annual exodus, but the parking lots seemed empty at 4 pm. Back in September the daytime LU had a lot more girls. Now the girls arrive much, much later. One of the regulars I spoke to speculated that the girls will arrive early once the summer months are upon us and people are in the garden. Sharks has much more girls for their daytime LU.

ForWebOnly
03-08-15, 20:07
Isn't there a rule, that girls need to stay at least 12 hours or something like this?

I can imaging that this is a reason for some girls not to visit Oase, or maybe at later time to not be forced to stay for 12 hours.

ForWebOnly
03-08-15, 20:12
Seems that Raissa of MH now calls herself Vanella. No idea how to spell it. Recent visit she tried to get me a couple of times but my first session wasn't good enough to consider repeat. Think she kept wanting to change positions to perhaps throw me off my build up and eventually take CIM. Wasn't at all busy on this Friday despite good body. Thought that I answered to this.

This should be "Venera" .

Spelled V e-n-e-r-a, not like in English, but like in German.

Nickc
03-08-15, 20:28
Recent reports differ from my experience. I can see only Oase as the best option for me. There last night, many beautiful girls, good buffet, great saunas This is Heaven and we are spoilt for choice. I have no problem with a girls offering extra services, why is that a problem to some men? I don't care what their Nationality is, there are good and bad personalities amongst all nations, you can't judge all girls because of a few. I say thank you EE girls. Why should they lie about where they are from. I love the Rumania girls I met last night).

Regards the below reports of a downturn in male clients, one of the reasons may be just distance and timetables. Last train was 11.38 pm so sadly I had to leave earlier than I wanted. Perhaps upon entry a shared taxi back to Frankfurt Main could be offered at say at 2 or 3 pm. Or something similiar. I would've spent another 150 if I could've stayed later. Thank you Oase see you soon. Cheers Nickc.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 20:42
In other words, if I were to list out my top ten FKK girls currently working, only about three of them would be based in Hessen area.
That is a pretty good reason I can respect. I too go where I have the most favourite girls. I was attending World until my favourites dropped out of sight and then I moved and found some new favourites. Its always that simple for me.

I don't experience that much upsell at Oase. A little fairly polite upsell. I won't keep booking any girls that take the upsell beyond very polite. It just spoils my frame of mind. I understand that you might be subject to heavier upsell, being less regular and the super nice guy amiable look. LOL. Maybe I have a more bored grumpy look.

Others have told me the standard of girl looks in some NRW clubs dropped off a bit and Oase had prettier girls. Opinions and taste varies tremendously of course. A guy who visited so many different clubs including NRW was still coming to Oase on Saturdays and his taste for looks was the same as mine.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 20:56
Regards the below reports of a downturn in male clients, one of the reasons may be just distance and timetables. Last train was 11.38 pm so sadly I had to leave earlier than I wanted. Perhaps upon entry a shared taxi back to Frankfurt Main could be offered at say at 2 or 3 pm. Or something similiar. I would've spent another 150 if I could've stayed later. Thank you Oase see you soon. Cheers Nickc.Normally should be a train at 00.08 and my RMV phone App is showing a 0:38 as well for last night. Sorry I was not there last night. We could have shared a taxi back. I got taxi back Friday night for 30 Euros (not quite full distance to Frankfurt Hbf. But just 3 km short). Normally I take the train but stayed later than usual.

Would be interesting to hear which girls you enjoyed.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 21:31
She's on holiday.

HB.On holiday with Marta? Those 2 seem to stick together. Should there have been a diplomatic wink on your post. LOL I thought I read or was told while at Oase (I forget now - was it an ISG post) that Juicy had reported something a little different. We have to be sceptical on all fronts. I hear rumours too.

Hessen Bub
03-08-15, 22:14
That's what Laura herself told me. That she's in Romania right now. Who knows it that's where she is.

HB.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 22:22
That's what Laura herself told me. That she's in Romania right now. Who knows it that's where she is.
HB.Okay That makes sense. I got into shit when Simona told me she was on phone talking to sister Diana who was in Romania, and wrote a ROFLMAO reporting this, after another poster reported her in ColA. Did not know Simona was an avid forum reader.

Its too easy for girls to do a search these days for anything relating to themselves.

Neurosynth
03-08-15, 23:12
A couple random thoughts. In the crime statistics below I wonder if the Germans are disproportionately arrested and thus the relative number is inflated. German authorities might try a bit harder to arrest Germans, and the Germans are obviously not leaving the country to go home or see family. They are always right here easy to catch.

Regarding economics, it might just be that my attention has shifted, but it seems like there are more small clubs, flat rate clubs, and AO clubs than ever. Maybe they've eaten into and reduced the number of men going to the mega-FKKs.

McAdonis
03-08-15, 23:32
That's what Laura herself told me. That she's in Romania right now. Who knows it that's where she is.

HB.Uncharacteristic of you to post something so specific. You've said before that you never think it is a good idea to be identified as an Internet poster. But if Laura read this, haven't you just significantly increased the chances of her identifying you? Perhaps Laura knows that she only communicated her whereabouts to 3-4 customers. This means she's narrowed you down. That or you are selective about who knows you are. In other words, you don't care if Laura can identify you. You could have just as easily said you heard from a "reliable source that she is in Romania". That allows you to be helpful to ISGers without revealing too much.

FormulaOneFan
03-08-15, 23:32
I need to write up last night's visit, but I'm resting after my first session of the night and figure I'd write this one up now since it was so memorable.

Raissa. A bit older, natural be / see cup and more voluptuous then most girls at Oase, but she caught my attention so I went with it. She says she's German and is from Frankfurt and is a non smoker for those that care. We chatted on the couch in the cinema and had good chemistry from the start.

Moved to the room and the session started with a good ten minutes of very deep DFK with lots of mutual hand roaming and cuddling. Switched to BBBJ which turned into a couple of positions of 69. She seemed to be into it as the second round of 69 came after a DFK session and she offered it up. Lots of continued DFK throughout. Switched to fucking with her in top. Rode and ground on me with an intensity and passion I've not had with many non pro partners; she really seemed into the session and according to her she came. Just before I did. She could be an excellent actress, but I did feel her pussy contract several times. In fact that's what pushed me over the limit and I finished. Good pillow talk and cuddling after. We went a bit over an hour so I paid her 150.

Excellent GFE if her look is something you're in to.

Syzygies
03-08-15, 23:48
Perhaps Laura knows that she only communicated her whereabouts to 3-4 customers. And she told each one a different story possibly, LOL. :D ;) With girl stories we often get grilled by HB on whether the girl is telling the truth or if there is any evidence to back up the story. Like girl says she was in Romania and not working in Saarbruecken, where a very feint rumour had suggested she was. We will never be 100% sure.

We have to always ask ourselves, if the girl could have any possible motive to tell a story not quite right. Is there something she needs to hide, for any reason, especially about the fish.

There are phantom sightings of girls to consider. We had phantom or potentially real sightings of Catalina at Oase, a girl that had never come here and also the return of retired Judith just one day which seemed awfully unlikely but not impossible. Both of these could have just been girls that looked similar to a guy who was not the regular customer of the girl. I once saw a girl that I thought was Laura/Livia until I realised she had too many curves and it was a bit dark in the lounge.

McAdonis
03-09-15, 00:16
The topic of being "known" as an Internet poster intrigues me. HB has posted it is a bad thing. BB has posted that is not even good to be associated or seen sitting with a known Internet poster. So if it is that bad and the repercussions were so horrible why do guys like Syzygies take the unnecessary risks and continue to post? I mean I do notice that Syzygies generally tries not to be overly negative. Perhaps that is Syzygies way of mitigating risks and avoiding uncomfortable confrontations in the club?

On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details. They will replay conversations they had with the girls and quote certain things that the girls said to them. They post the times of the days that they sessioned with each girl. And they will post the field reports sometimes hours after sessioning with the WG. Are these people just that stupid that they do not realize they are being ostracized by the girls and the club management? Or is the real reason, that there are no negative repercussions? Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club?

Not saying Syzygies or any other high-status poster is doing any of this or that this even happens at all. Just a curiousity. Just me thinking out loud. I mean I know Syzygies nature is to be helpful and he probably doesn't have any other motives, but if there were negative consequences like some pimp threatening him, surely he would have stopped by now.

My apologies for going way off-topic.

McAdonis
03-09-15, 00:26
We have to always ask ourselves, if the girl could have any possible motive to tell a story not quite right. Is there something she needs to hide, for any reason, especially about the fish.

Or maybe HB is Laura's fish? And he is concerned that Oase management will catch wind of the rumors that Laura has been spotted at World!! So he is creating a second rumor.

Beffen1
03-09-15, 00:43
Hi Dufey,

Is it really true, playful hottie Laura / Livia was at work at Oase this weekend per your recent report?

Beffen- big time Laura fan.

FormulaOneFan
03-09-15, 01:09
Figure down time is a good opportunity to post real time reports.

After the intense session with Raissa, I was in the mood for an optifuck type session. More about a super hot skinny girl sucking and fucking me than anything else. Andrea was the girl of choice. Service was pretty sop. No kissing, really good and long BJ with mention of CIM but no pressure. Switched to cowgirl the finished doggy. She has a very nice tiny ass and nice natural be cup breasts.

Wouldn't repeat but it was what I was looking for. Good sexy ass to look at as I finished.

Should have stamina for one or two more if the right girl (s) catch my eye.

Breadman
03-09-15, 01:15
On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details. They will replay conversations they had with the girls and quote certain things that the girls said to them. They post the times of the days that they sessioned with each girl. And they will post the field reports sometimes hours after sessioning with the WG. Are these people just that stupid that they do not realize they are being ostracized by the girls and the club management? Or is the real reason, that there are no negative repercussions? Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club?

.Pretty much anything goes, the more traffic a website receives I'm guessing the more rewards. Maybe a girls business increases threefold after a couple of glorious reviews and she's of mind to offer a free romp to said reviewer, how are we to know. What we know for certain is nobody is taking VV's money to post glorious reviews of the club.

Sirioja
03-09-15, 02:05
Hi Dufey,

Is it really true, playful hottie Laura / Livia was at work at Oase this weekend per your recent report?

Beffen- big time Laura fan.No Laura was not at Oase this week-end nor last week, Juicy was trying to work to make money.

Roxana came back on Saturday, no Maria platinum blond at home said smiling friendly Sabina / Ramona.

Will arrive soon Juliana. Ro 20 yo met this Sunday in Samya and ex Magnum, a real natural beauty, real blond with pony tail, angel face, ultra slim with small tits, 1,55 40 kg, when I saw her after my super discovery of wonderful Valentina. Ro, I could not resist, no 2nd meeting with Valentina, no meeting with Candy, the dancing star of Samya for who knows, the prettiest was Juliana / Rafaella in Samya since 3 days after 7 months in Magnum, what a pleasure for eyes to fuck a so pretty doll, friendly but professional with average services like most of girls in Oase, Oase have good casting but not the best services girls and Juliana services are far behind the real woman Valentina for only 75/ h with this jewel, should have returned with her but couldn't resist to Juliana teen beauty, no problem with smiling Valentina but Candy lost her smile and was not busy, after Roxana Saturday with Suzinella, maybe problem with Candy? I hope not, girls seem jealous.

FormulaOneFan
03-09-15, 03:48
As I'm sure most know, after midnight at Oase on a Sunday gets pretty dead and the variety gets limited. Had to decide between one more go or to head to the hotel. Since the GFE experience with Raissa was so good I went with her again. Session was as good as first one with more positive this time for variety. Started to lots hardness after we switched to doggie, so she sucked me off for another ten minutes before we went back at it. Finished with intense missionary and then some cuddling and pillow talk.

Kirk Lazarus
03-09-15, 04:00
Will arrive soon Juliana. Ro 20 yo met this Sunday in Samya and ex Magnum, a real natural beauty, real blond with pony tail, angel face, ultra slim with small tits, 1,55 40 kg, when I saw her after my super discovery of wonderful Valentina. Ro, I could not resist, no 2nd meeting with Valentina, no meeting with Candy, the dancing star of Samya for who knows, the prettiest was Juliana / Rafaella in Samya since 3 days after 7 months in Magnum, what a pleasure for eyes to fuck a so pretty doll, friendly but professional with average services like most of girls in Oase, Oase have good casting but not the best services girls and Juliana services are far behind the real woman Valentina for only 75/ h with this jewel, should have returned with her but couldn't resist to Juliana teen beauty, no problem with smiling Valentina but Candy lost her smile and was not busy, after Roxana Saturday with Suzinella, maybe problem with Candy? I hope not, girls seem jealous.Sirioja, is this post about your experience at Oase or Samya. I'm a little confused. This Rafaella you talk about, did you meet her at Samya or Oase? I Met a Rafaella at Samya this past Friday. Here is my description of her. Is this the same one you are talking about?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2597-FKK-Samya-Cologne&p=1691073&viewfull=1#post1691073

Sirioja
03-09-15, 04:52
Sirioja, is this post about your experience at Oase or Samya. I'm a little confused. This Rafaella you talk about, did you meet her at Samya or Oase? I Met a Rafaella at Samya this past Friday. Here is my description of her. Is this the same one you are talking about?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2597-FKK-Samya-Cologne&p=1691073&viewfull=1#post1691073I met your Rafaella this Sunday evening in Samya, she was Juliana in Magnum for 7 months and will be Juliana in Oase next week, she already worked a few days in Oase 2 or 3 weeks ago, at the beginning she will have big success in Oase due to her pretty look and her services not exceptional but at same level as many girls in Oase, but better services for Valentina in Samya.

Juliana / ex Rafaella has a few small tattoos on shoulder, left arm and leg, she has very large sex lips compare to her body.

UltraHappy
03-09-15, 05:00
Some clubs have rule against meeting outside, but I still managed to get some girls to agree a date. Yet, she needs to make excuse for absent, leave alone, and meet me somewhere. When people are concerning being caught, date is not that fun any more, even thought the trouble is not mine.

In oase, I know it's ok, I've done couples of times.In Oase, there is a rule about picking up a girl from the parking lot (except at closing of course). The girl could have problems with Mauro if security tells Mauro that a customer picked her up in the parking lot (security has camera views of the entire parking). So if you pick up a girl to take her out, it must be outside of the camera view of the parking. The best thing is for her to take a taxi off-site, like to your nearby hotel for example, and then, continue your adventure from there. When you bring her back to the club, it is best to drop her off in the street, just outside the parking, so she can walk back into the parking so that security won't see a recognizable customer dropping her off.

Also, it probably makes sense to avoid posting on this particular thread when an Oase girl is rumored to be temporarily working at another club as this might cause her problems when she tries to return to Oase.

Dr Clitorius
03-09-15, 05:05
The topic of being "known" as an Internet poster intrigues me. HB has posted it is a bad thing. BB has posted that is not even good to be associated or seen sitting with a known Internet poster. So if it is that bad and the repercussions were so horrible why do guys like Syzygies take the unnecessary risks and continue to post? I mean I do notice that Syzygies generally tries not to be overly negative. Perhaps that is Syzygies way of mitigating risks and avoiding uncomfortable confrontations in the club?

On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details. They will replay conversations they had with the girls and quote certain things that the girls said to them. They post the times of the days that they sessioned with each girl. And they will post the field reports sometimes hours after sessioning with the WG. Are these people just that stupid that they do not realize they are being ostracized by the girls and the club management? Or is the real reason, that there are no negative repercussions? Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club?..Dear gentlemen,

First of all I must say that I don't live in Germany but I've been frequenting the FKK clubs scene in Hessen's area over the past five years (minimum 4 times a year, averaging 7 days per trip).

After reading the last reports involving distorted / anomalous / or directly fake experiences with girls, let me allow some clarification topics based on my humble experience:

1) It can happen I know, but I think lower the probability that some users with vast experience and many well written reports need to promote events / experiences with girls opposite to the truth, with intent to obtain some benefit by a club or the girls themselves. This asseveration doesn't pretends to be a defense of any of the users because I do not know anyone at all.

2) When I read questions or comments about sharkness behavior of some of the girls in different clubs, I don't stop to amaze myself, it's logical in that context that 20 years old girls 20 working in the sex industry try to get as much money as possible by offering all possible extras to mature men who -in their majority- is 40 years old or more, because of that I find illogical that those same mature men (no kids at FKK's) are not able to rationally manage this paradise offering sex develop by beautiful girls and talk about scams or sharkness behavior (when it's very simply to reject with education and pass to following girl, accept or negotiate).

3) Talking about negotiation field, every time I read questions about whether this or that girl does DFK, OWO, CIM, swallow, rimming, anal sex, bareback sex, etc, I think if you really are serious or just want to confront Other members who are able obtain such extras and then compare later. In this world of naked girls offering sex for money and willing to spend adult men's money, anything is possible.

4) Based on my own experience in big clubs like World / Oase / Palace / Sharks, if you pay the appropriate amount you can get almost everything you want, like: DFK and owo (95% of girls they will do, only in Palace many girls will be ask Extra 50 euros for kissing, others included in 1 hour's session), CIM (90% of the girls, 50 extra euros), CIM + swallow (70%, 100/200 euros extra), rimming (70%, 50/200 euros extra, some of them included it in 1 hour's session combined with other extras), anal (70%, 100 euros extra), bareback sex (60%, some offer it in the middle of a session and other ones are well prepared to listen offers, 50/800 euros extra), book an overnight at your hotel with full GFE (600/1000 euros extra).

5) I repeat that these conclusions are based on my own personal experience, I am a friendly normal guy, just that.

Best regards,

TD

Syzygies
03-09-15, 10:19
Hi Dufey,

Is it really true, playful hottie Laura / Livia was at work at Oase this weekend per your recent report?

Beffen- big time Laura fan.No his report was retrospective. Some regular of hers will possibly know a story, but who has the true low down?

Livia and Marta went together as usual.

Faceless78
03-09-15, 10:28
In Oase, there is a rule about picking up a girl from the parking lot (except at closing of course). The girl could have problems with Mauro if security tells Mauro that a customer picked her up in the parking lot (security has camera views of the entire parking). So if you pick up a girl to take her out, it must be outside of the camera view of the parking. The best thing is for her to take a taxi off-site, like to your nearby hotel for example, and then, continue your adventure from there. When you bring her back to the club, it is best to drop her off in the street, just outside the parking, so she can walk back into the parking so that security won't see a recognizable customer dropping her off.

Also, it probably makes sense to avoid posting on this particular thread when an Oase girl is rumored to be temporarily working at another club as this might cause her problems when she tries to return to Oase.Yes, I didn't considere this, but to minimum all the possible inconveniences, we met at hotel or restaurant, I didn't go to club to pick up or drop off, I pay for the taxi.

Sirioja
03-09-15, 10:53
The girls seem to be complaining more than ever there is no business. One girl says she made just 200 euro on Friday since she was new and then just 50 euro on Saturday and she worked a really long day in the club. Then from this money they pay maybe 95 euro to the club for entry and taxes and maybe more if they stay in the club.Entry for girls in Oase is 100,80 in World from Sunday to Wednesday and 95 from Thursday to Saturday.

Most of girls even pretty like Sabina / Ramona, Beatrice, blond Cristina, brunettes Maya, Carla and Laura with socks, Roxana were not busy at all on Friday or Saturday, Elizabet. Hubusier and Lexi the busiest.

And I confirm a new girl said me at 1 am Saturday night, she had done only 50€ meetings and with mine, she had made 200€ for a Saturday and beginning at 14 h.

If you could give date for your visits because girls change each week.

Thanks

Faceless78
03-09-15, 13:45
The girls seem to be complaining more than ever there is no business. One girl says she made just 200 euro on Friday since she was new and then just 50 euro on Saturday and she worked a really long day in the club. Then from this money they pay maybe 95 euro to the club for entry and taxes and maybe more if they stay in the club.Sleep in club costs 20 euros a day, I've seen pics, something like the hostel, not too bad.

Syzygies
03-09-15, 14:16
The topic of being "known" as an Internet poster intrigues me. HB has posted it is a bad thing. BB has posted that is not even good to be associated or seen sitting with a known Internet poster. So if it is that bad and the repercussions were so horrible why do guys like Syzygies take the unnecessary risks and continue to post? I mean I do notice that Syzygies generally tries not to be overly negative. Perhaps that is Syzygies way of mitigating risks and avoiding uncomfortable confrontations in the club?

On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details. They will replay conversations they had with the girls and quote certain things that the girls said to them. They post the times of the days that they sessioned with each girl. And they will post the field reports sometimes hours after sessioning with the WG. Are these people just that stupid that they do not realize they are being ostracized by the girls and the club management? Or is the real reason, that there are no negative repercussions? Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club?

Not saying Syzygies or any other high-status poster is doing any of this or that this even happens at all. Just a curiousity. Just me thinking out loud. I mean I know Syzygies nature is to be helpful and he probably doesn't have any other motives, but if there were negative consequences like some pimp threatening him, surely he would have stopped by now.

My apologies for going way off-topic.McA,

I don't have any problems with Management, pimps etc. I stay away from them. I have few problems with girls because I don't write bullshit.

Few girls are angry with me. Some have asked me not to write any more details about them, but will still session with me since I gave them some good publicity and nothing vindictive or nasty.

Some girls don't want to go with me. Perhaps scared of a less than glowing report to follow. However one really terrible session I did not report at all. I just accept we had a clash of styles and personalities. She wanted to dominate and I did not want to be dominated.

It is a disadvantage to be known. Biggest concern is what other forum members will do such as reporting your posts to girls or making trouble in other ways. Syz wrote this and Syz wrote that. If give less info about sessions these days keeping it brief. I don't write much about girls I have written a lot about before. I will write about a new girl tried, something but lacking detail these days.

I think girls know I am a pretty harmless type, many will have heard rumours about me. Some girls have been apprehensive at first for what reason I don't know, and later admit the session was better than they expected. Often rumours get grossly exaggerated for sure.

Relatively few girls deny me a session and some where it previously did not work at all well for us seem to want to try again. Its possible a girl can be difficult when she had a pussy pain or problem and be performing not to her normal standard. If a girl seems resistant in any way I lose hard on very quickly and the session becomes a flop. Fortunately its not too often I get the stiff legged girls. I have to get girls that seem able to have a good time or it just doesn't work.

Pussy obstructions are a session killer too for me. Have to avoid some girls who habitually stuff something about 4 inches down. It really makes a big difference to me. I like loose pussy. LOL.

Faceless78
03-09-15, 14:33
Pussy obstructions are a session killer too for me. Have to avoid some girls who habitually stuff something about 4 inches down. It really makes a big difference to me. I like loose pussy. LOL.Excuse me for this stupid question: but what is pussy obstructions? Pussy too tide? Or something in pussy?

Hessen Bub
03-09-15, 14:38
Uncharacteristic of you to post something so specific. You've said before that you never think it is a good idea to be identified as an Internet poster. But if Laura read this, haven't you just significantly increased the chances of her identifying you? Perhaps Laura knows that she only communicated her whereabouts to 3-4 customers. This means she's narrowed you down. That or you are selective about who knows you are. In other words, you don't care if Laura can identify you. You could have just as easily said you heard from a "reliable source that she is in Romania". That allows you to be helpful to ISGers without revealing too much.Wouldn't have posted that if I wasn't quite sure that she has told that to quite a few customers, not only me. I won't post HOW and WHEN she told me, that's is non-detailed enough for me. I still believe it's not good to be identified as an Internet poster.


Or maybe HB is Laura's fish? You caught me. Actually she's on a break to count and launder the money she made.


On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details.

Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club? Some of that may happen if the board is financed by advertising. There's boards that are not, they are independent, no reason to push a club or a girl. If a poster is suspected to push a girl or location he will be banned. There may be stupid assholes trying to put pressure on girls by telling them they will write a negative review if she doesn't do this or that. There's so many detailed posts about girls that the individual poster is hard to identify, I am quite confident about this after over 10 years on various boards.

HB.

Hessen Bub
03-09-15, 14:39
Excuse me for this stupid question: but what is pussy obstructions? Pussy too tide? Or something in pussy?Girls who do not allow full penetration.

HB.

Syzygies
03-09-15, 15:13
Excuse me for this stupid question: but what is pussy obstructions? Pussy too tide? Or something in pussy?I meant something stuffed in pussy during period or for some girls all the time. Even girls don't believe that it happens except during period. Some girls do not believe that others work without gel too.

Strangely some girls allow fingers even though fingers can find the obstruction. Girl imagines its beyond finger easy reach I guess.

Ever been doing doggy and dick just doesn't seem to go beyond about 4 inches or cannot slide smoothly?

X porn star girls stuff pussy to prevent full penetration and to make the dick look longer than it really is since it only goes half way in. Better for the movie visuals but not better for the feeling.

Faceless78
03-09-15, 15:23
I meant something stuffed in pussy during period or for some girls all the time. Even girls don't believe that it happens except during period. Some girls do not believe that others work without gel too.

Strangely some girls allow fingers even though fingers can find the obstruction. Girl imagines its beyond finger easy reach I guess.

Ever been doing doggy and dick just doesn't seem to go beyond about 4 inches or cannot slide smoothly?

X porn star girls stuff pussy to prevent full penetration and to make the dick look longer than it really is since it only goes half way in. Better for the movie visuals but not better for the feeling.Since you mentioned, I recall one time I felt something during doggy, I asked, but she said nothing; maybe you are right.

About girls without gels, I've heard but never met, are they get wet or just with the limited gel on condoms?

Sirioja
03-09-15, 17:17
Or maybe HB is Laura's fish? And he is concerned that Oase management will catch wind of the rumors that Laura has been spotted at World!! So he is creating a second rumor.What is important, for my opinion, is Laura not working at the moment, this last week end, in Oase, then she does what she wants, I might mistake to write more, girls don't always say the truth and it's Laura business.

McAdonis
03-09-15, 19:31
Wouldn't have posted that if I wasn't quite sure that she has told that to quite a few customers, not only me. I won't post HOW and WHEN she told me, that's is non-detailed enough for me.Figured you had thought ahead before posting something like that, but was just making sure. Wouldn't want you to discard your handle and go into hiding! I would assume "when" would have been within the last week, and "how" would be by facebook since that is the medium nowadays to spread information to many people. And it would give you the assurance that there was more than one person receiving the news.


There may be stupid assholes trying to put pressure on girls by telling them they will write a negative review if she doesn't do this or that.
Threats probably wouldn't work. And the WG could respond by being confrontational. I am not an expert on sexual harassment cases, but I assume that most male bosses do not threaten their female employees with termination. Instead, they probably reinforce the positive aspects of what an alliance would entail. This creates a "win-win" scenario. The boss would subtly hint at what kind of doors might open up for the employee, and who they might be introduced to, etc. The male boss may not even mention sex, but rather hint to her that it is a good idea to be associated with him. He does not have to say "I am important" or "I made 30 million EUR last year". He could accomplish the same by dropping names of famous, rich or important people he is friends with, mentioning the exotic places he goes, the dollar amounts of the business deals he closes etc. Women pick up on hints because they are wired to associate themselves with people that can do something for them. It is the reality of male-dominated societies.

In other words, it would probably be smarter for the monger to dangle a carrot of a positive review during pre-zimmer. If she does not take the bait, no negative repercussions, he just moves on. In Syzygies case, it doesn't not need to be explicitly stated or hinted. They already know his habit to always writes positive reviews if the girl meets his expectations.



There's so many detailed posts about girls that the individual poster is hard to identify, I am quite confident about this after over 10 years on various boards.
Not that many detailed reports from what I can see. The Dutch forum groups their threads by the girls name. Most threads have between 5-25 replies. So the girl maybe averages 6 reviews per year. Only about ten percent of those reports are detailed and posted the very next day. These girls have amazing memories. Girls remember the highest payment I ever gave them. Girls remember something I joked about from a previous visit. Girls know how often that I have sessioned with them. Girls remember stories I've told them. I am referring to girls I see maybe four times a year and sessioned with once. Perhaps I am just extremely unique in how I look, behave, and spend-making me easy to remember, but I doubt it.

Shark16
03-09-15, 20:12
According Oase homepage the 6 for 4 special offer is still valid after around six weeks.True. Still valid.

McAdonis
03-09-15, 20:32
Some girls don't want to go with me. Perhaps scared of a less than glowing report to follow.

So these are girls you've never previously sessioned with before that are denying you? I remember you writing that the Kenyan girl at Sharks knocked you back but I believe you wrote that you already tried her before, so she was knocking you back based on first-hand experience she had with you. That could be one of the reasons you rarely get bad sessions. The girls will self-disqualify themselves. Makes sense to me. The girl can plainly read your grading criteria and learn what matters most to you. And of course she knows her own limitations of what she is comfortable doing and at what price point she is willing to do it. I am sure most girls in Oase already have your dossier, whether you sessioned with them or not. Certain circles of girls already have mine. My guess is that after showering, a girl will do a brain dump of the session she just had with the customer to all her friends in immediate vicinity. She will repeat this story several times to various friends throughout the night who missed the story. Once she's told the story 3-4 times, her memory has crystallized. If a guy tips generously, every girl will find out about him by the end of the night!



It is a disadvantage to be known. Biggest concern is what other forum members will do such as reporting your posts to girls or making trouble in other ways. Syz wrote this and Syz wrote that.
In general, I agree that being known as a poster is a bad thing, but I think stlll think there are exceptions to the rule. Namely those guys at NRW clubs who post detailed reports. Perhaps those guys post details with impunity because they attend a single club 250 times a year, and only rotate between a core of ten or less girls. These guys represent a "big whale" for their WGs so the same rules don't apply to them and they can get away with more--like being an Internet poster. The girl is going to pick her battles. The customer would have to cross some serious lines for her to bite the hand that feeds her.

Hessen Bub
03-09-15, 21:04
Not that many detailed reports from what I can see. The Dutch forum groups their threads by the girls name. Most threads have between 5-25 replies. So the girl maybe averages 6 reviews per year. Only about ten percent of those reports are detailed and posted the very next day. These girls have amazing memories. Girls remember the highest payment I ever gave them. Girls remember something I joked about from a previous visit. Girls know how often that I have sessioned with them. Girls remember stories I've told them. I am referring to girls I see maybe four times a year and sessioned with once. Perhaps I am just extremely unique in how I look, behave, and spend-making me easy to remember, but I doubt it.Reports may have a lot of detail but not a lot of time individual details which would lead to identification of the guy reporting. I do write detailed reports. Still they are not written the same day I fucked the girl, I do leave out specific detail that are unique to the session we had.

HB.

Shark16
03-09-15, 21:16
How was line up compared to Friday? Any special extra girls showed up? Normally I would attend Saturday rather than Friday.Hey Syz,
First of all, thanks noch einmal for the LU list! Timing was just perfect this Saturday making it possible for me to set up a "wish list" from your LU list on the train to Friedrichsdorf. It couldn't have been any better! Again, the accuracy and details of your lists are amazing.

I did not make any effort to make a LU list myself this time, but my gut feeling is that the LU was pretty much the same. I recognize many names from your Friday list as girls being in attendance also on Saturday. I would guess just around same number of girls, but maybe 10- 20 of them being replaced? I have too much respect for you weekly (and easily bored) visitors to suggest that any of them were "special", but to me the LU was solid. If you want me to be more specific I would probably need one of your "missing girls" list to identify a few of the "extra girls" in attendance on Saturday.

Thanks also to Dufey for his LU list, but I think we can agree it must have been written in retrospect (definetively not representing Saturday's line-up).

A few notes:

- At times some of the girls were really "shaking it" to the music provided by the DJ in the evening - making them move a couple of notches up on my to-do list. Hot! Hot! Hot! I wish more girls would do it. It sure has an impact on my priorities.

- I am scrachting my head a bit hearing about the socalled "decline" in business. There were reports on this in 2005 and 2009 too, remember? Funny. It's difficult to agree to this based on my latest visit. +90 girls and a bunch of men, but still good F / M ratios most of the night making superb conditions for a male guest. There are always girls complaining about business (always has been / nothing new). Oase's indoors is like 50% larger than before (?) and with maybe twice as many rooms? I am not missing the crowds and waiting for rooms. The hardware is all so much better now.

Hessen Bub
03-09-15, 21:21
- At times some of the girls were really "shaking it" to the music provided by the DJ in the evening - making them move a couple of notches up on my to-do list. Hot! Hot! Hot! I wish more girls would do it. It sure has an impact on my priorities.On my last visits 90% of the music played was Romanian Balcandisco. Quite annoying even if the girls liked it.

HB.

Dufey
03-09-15, 22:45
I met your Rafaella this Sunday evening in Samya, she was Juliana in Magnum for 7 months and will be Juliana in Oase next week, she already worked a few days in Oase 2 or 3 weeks ago, at the beginning she will have big success in Oase due to her pretty look and her services not exceptional but at same level as many girls in Oase, but better services for Valentina in Samya.Sorry, can you clarify? Is Rafaella the better or worse for service compared to Valentine at Samya?

Dufey
03-09-15, 22:49
In Oase, there is a rule about picking up a girl from the parking lot (except at closing of course). The girl could have problems with Mauro if security tells Mauro that a customer picked her up in the parking lot (security has camera views of the entire parking). So if you pick up a girl to take her out, it must be outside of the camera view of the parking. The best thing is for her to take a taxi off-site, like to your nearby hotel for example, and then, continue your adventure from there. When you bring her back to the club, it is best to drop her off in the street, just outside the parking, so she can walk back into the parking so that security won't see a recognizable customer dropping her off.UH,

You are probably right but this has not stopped girls suggesting that I collect them from in the Oase car park to drive them away and we doing as planned. Maybe this is because it is the end of their day shift (or night shift depending). If the girl leaves during their working shift hours then that is another story since the girls need permission to just run off. Also the girls invariably have to past by reception to get out so would be seen.

Dufey
03-09-15, 22:57
Sleep in club costs 20 euros a day, I've seen pics, something like the hostel, not too bad.Indeed it is shared rooms so you can have maybe 4 girls or more in the room. Let us say two girls work the day shift and two girls do the night shift. So you each set of girls will disturb the others in their work and sleep patterns. Also there is some girl that want the window open and others that want the window closed. One girl "borrow" the soap and shampoo of another girl and not ask the owner of said products for permission to use them. All the usual issues of girls living close together.

This is why many girls try to take an apartment elsewhere to live more "normally" if they can afford to. Sometimes the ability to find accommodation dictates for the girls where they work and inevitably the clubs with the dormitories for the girls like Mainhattan, Sharks, Oase and World win out in this regard.

Dufey
03-09-15, 23:13
About girls without gels, I've heard but never met, are they get wet or just with the limited gel on condoms?Girls can be different like guys can be different. There are many instances that the girl I have booked is naturally wet and did not need lube. Usually after some DATY has been performed this is the case but also many instances that there was no need for saliva or just a bit of spit on the hand placed on the twat is enough. That is nice when that happens as it feels more intimate and natural like for the sex.

Dufey
03-09-15, 23:17
Perhaps I am just extremely unique in how I look, behave, and spend-making me easy to remember, but I doubt it.All guys are unique. This is how the girls remember the little things. You even say yourself you cannot explain how the girls remember the money you spent and what you liked in the room. How did they do that if they do not remember. You have to give the girls some credit sometimes.

Dufey
03-09-15, 23:25
I am sure most girls in Oase already have your dossier, whether you sessioned with them or not. Certain circles of girls already have mine. My guess is that after showering, a girl will do a brain dump of the session she just had with the customer to all her friends in immediate vicinity. She will repeat this story several times to various friends throughout the night who missed the story. Once she's told the story 3-4 times, her memory has crystallized. If a guy tips generously, every girl will find out about him by the end of the night!

those guys at NRW clubs who post detailed reports. Perhaps those guys post details with impunity because they attend a single club 250 times a year, and only rotate between a core of ten or less girls. These guys represent a "big whale" for their WGs so the same rules don't apply to them and they can get away with more--like being an Internet poster. The girl is going to pick her battles. The customer would have to cross some serious lines for her to bite the hand that feeds her.This point about the generous guys or the big tippers has been discussed earlier in the threads. The girls are competing with each other. For a girl to going boasting to all and sundry that X client is a generous with the extras and the tips then next thing you know all her friends and competitors are all going for the same customer to get his business. It is like you had the formula for Coca cola and went to tell everyone about it so that they can make it at home. Then the value of your coca cola formula is that much diminished.

As for the detailed report writers from the German and Dutch forums there are some that would not post anything for fear of annoying their favourites such that services are withheld with what they wrote or if they did write anything they kept it circumspect or in passing with no details. I mean what would you do? If you had a favourite who did all the naughty things that you liked, would you write a detailed report about that and then keep on about it?

Sirioja
03-09-15, 23:55
Sorry, can you clarify? Is Rafaella the better or worse for service compared to Valentine at Samya?Juliana ex Rafaella Samya ex Juliana Magnum will be one of the prettiest at Oase, Valentina in Samya is not so slim and a little bit older, maybe you can see her photos on Samya site, but she would be a superstar in Oase with higher services than Oase girls, a real charming shinning GFE with green eyes looking for contact, a real woman when Juliana is only a teen top model with average services but good BBBJ and pleasure in doggy.

Sirioja
03-10-15, 00:18
Castings were close on Friday and Saturday, Saturday with Roxana back and Lexi but no Kim nor Shayenne, many girls said they worked better on Friday but also said not enough.

PussyLiccker
03-10-15, 00:53
Sorry, can you clarify? Is Rafaella the better or worse for service compared to Valentine at Samya?

Will arrive soon Juliana. Ro 20 yo met this Sunday in Samya and ex Magnum, a real natural beauty, real blond with pony tail, angel face, ultra slim with small tits, 1,55 40 kg, when I saw her after my super discovery of wonderful Valentina. Ro, I could not resist, no 2nd meeting with Valentina, no meeting with Candy, the dancing star of Samya for who knows, the prettiest was Juliana / Rafaella in Samya since 3 days after 7 months in Magnum, what a pleasure for eyes to fuck a so pretty doll, friendly but professional with average services like most of girls in Oase, Oase have good casting but not the best services girls and Juliana services are far behind the real woman Valentina for only 75/ h with this jewel, He already said this, and he means her services is not as great as that Valentina girl. Another Samya girl I hear moving to Oase. Last one was Angie, who I remember from Samya, bubbly girl with funny dances when at Samya. She must have made enough money and moved on. More money at Oase if you do well there. Probably seen this Juliana around at Magnum one time or another.

McAdonis
03-10-15, 01:12
This point about the generous guys or the big tippers has been discussed earlier in the threads. The girls are competing with each other. For a girl to going boasting to all and sundry that X client is a generous with the extras and the tips then next thing you know all her friends and competitors are all going for the same customer to get his business. It is like you had the formula for Coca cola and went to tell everyone about it so that they can make it at home. Then the value of your coca cola formula is that much diminished.
A little exaggeration on my part, it's probably not the whole club that finds out, but they will most certainly tell most of their friends. I think the girls understand that men go to the club to enjoy multiple girls. On a few occasions, I've sessioned the same girl three times in one day. One girl four times. Said favourite and all of her friends were always amazed by that--presumably because it is a rare occurence. Point is the girl usually assumes that she's made her money off of the customer for that particular day, and they assume that the man is going to move onto another girl--because that is what 90% of men will do. So why not help out one of her friends as a gesture of good will that might potentially be reciprocated?

Just about every Romanian girl that eventually became a favorite, at some point early on, asked me if I was interested in seeing one of their friends. Often they will ask me, "you like my friend? She is beautiful, isn't she?" Often they do this when the girl is sitting right there, creating an awkward situation. Sometimes I just flatly say "No". Sometimes I just joke around a little before telling them "No". Sometimes this is an empty gesture, because they know the girl is not my type whatsoever, and they know that the girl is not a threat, and they anticipate that I will say "No". So in that sense, you are absolutely right. They are hoarding me for themselves.

So why do they do that? Because business is about strategic alliances as well. Laura / Livia introduces you to Ugly friend. You say "No". Ugly friend reciprocates the favor for Laura at a later time, but the difference is Laura / Livia can probably capture / convert the referral business that gets sent her way. Often times it is not an empty gesture as I describe. They genuimely send referral business, and hope that they get some referrals back. One of my top optificks at Oase got ostracized by her circle of friends because she never "returned the favor". My last visit a few weeks ago, I saw her with her old friends again, so I can only assume she learned her lesson. Bear in mind that what I describe is a Romanian manner of conducting business. Meaning there is general phoniness and friendliness that is expected. Definitely not a common German trait.

Also there is no point in hiding it. Laura / Livia knows other girls saw her go in the room. They know roughly how long she was off the floor. What customer she was with last seen with. With business being slow, this allows girls to be more nosier and gossipy than usual. The girls can also see what kind of post-zimmer after-sales you got. If they see a busy girl like Laura showering you with attention, they can deduce that you are big spender. Because she probably doesn't do that for the guys who just paid her a 50 EUR note. The girls watch the interactions at the money locker every bit as closely as the men do. If Laura truly wanted to hide that she received a significant sum from you, she would have to ignore you post-zimmer. And she won't do that because she risks losing a repeat customer who pays well.



As for the detailed report writers from the German and Dutch forums there are some that would not post anything for fear of annoying their favourites such that services are withheld with what they wrote or if they did write anything they kept it circumspect or in passing with no details. I mean what would you do? If you had a favourite who did all the naughty things that you liked, would you write a detailed report about that and then keep on about it?I agree that they leave out the really good stuff. I am not talking about just sexual details of what occured in the room, but rather identifying detail, like a play-by-play replay of the conversation they had with the girl inside / outside the room. Sirioja recently recounted an exchange with Stella at Palace for the whole of ISG. Roughly I think it went like this: Sirioja: "Do you kiss?" Stella: "Honey, I sell sex not love". Sirioja: "I didn't ask you to tell me you love me, I asked you for DFK". The answer from Stella may be a stock reply she gives to lots of men, but I don't consider Sirioja's witty comeback as being standard, and it probably stuck in Stella's head, "Like who is this crazy French guy think he is". Sirioja wrote this on ISG a few weeks ago--these are not details that Sirioja told me in private that I am repeating on ISG. On the Dutch and French forums, they go much further than this often offering the full transcript from a conversation earlier that day LOL. How could the girl not identify a poster like this?

Faceless78
03-10-15, 01:58
This point about the generous guys or the big tippers has been discussed earlier in the threads. The girls are competing with each other. For a girl to going boasting to all and sundry that X client is a generous with the extras and the tips then next thing you know all her friends and competitors are all going for the same customer to get his business. It is like you had the formula for Coca cola and went to tell everyone about it so that they can make it at home. Then the value of your coca cola formula is that much diminished.
I had this problem once, I over tipped once, then the next time visit, two other girls asked for the same. When I turned them down, their faces also turned down.

FormulaOneFan
03-10-15, 05:23
On my last visits 90% of the music played was Romanian Balcandisco. Quite annoying even if the girls liked it.

HB.That's what it was like Sunday evening. An occasional to 40 or other dance music track thrown in. Was amusing at first as some of the girls were really into it, but got old after a while, especially when these 2 guys kept doing some traditional dance. I would have preferred a pop radio station or something.

Ortos
03-10-15, 06:59
All guys are unique. This is how the girls remember the little things. You even say yourself you cannot explain how the girls remember the money you spent and what you liked in the room. How did they do that if they do not remember. You have to give the girls some credit sometimes.Coming from a man (I assume, LOL) with an extra-ordinary memory about girls' names and other details, the above quote has great gravitas, for me at least.

Syzygies
03-10-15, 07:22
Isabella is popular. She says she sells love, not just sex.

Girls don't introduce me to their friends that much. I already introduced myself and asked their names. LOL Still a few girls remain anonymous not keen to make rubbish small talk like what their names are. I am sure they told me the first time but bad luck if I forgot.

I reckon some girls get clues about tips or bigger spending when see the money handed over at the locker area. I reckon many girls would know I am more than a 50 target unless they are new.

McAdonis
03-10-15, 17:18
Isabella is popular. She says she sells love, not just sex.

Girls don't introduce me to their friends that much. I already introduced myself and asked their names. LOL Still a few girls remain anonymous not keen to make rubbish small talk like what their names are. I am sure they told me the first time but bad luck if I forgot.

I reckon some girls get clues about tips or bigger spending when see the money handed over at the locker area. I reckon many girls would know I am more than a 50 target unless they are new.Generally, they stop introducing me to their friends. Because they know my type. And they probably noticed that I was irritable or uncomfortable the first time they tried to get me to session their friends. It could also have been the girl's way of testing me. Perhaps she wanted to see how emotionally / physically attached I was to her.

Inside and outside of FKK, Romanians are quite warm people. But a common thing I hear and have experienced, is that they sometimes do favors for you, because they want and expect you to repay them at some point. They may even remind you. LOL. I think that dynamic is at play when one Romanian WG introduces a potential customer to another Romanian WG.

Yes, it is not uncommon to see big spenders at the money lockers. Like seeing a man pay two girls after a threesome, counting his green 100 EUR notes before he hands them over. The girls notice. The classic Oase scenario is when the man pays the girl. The girl explains something, whilst continuing to hold out her hand. The guy gets confused, then after a moment of careful thought, the man quickly reopens his money locker, and pulls out a few more notes. The girls also notice this!

Ortos
03-10-15, 17:26
Yes, it is not uncommon to see big spenders at the money lockers. Like seeing a man pay two girls after a threesome, counting his green 100 EUR notes before he hands them over. The girls notice. The classic Oase scenario is when the man pays the girl. The girl explains something, whilst continuing to hold out her hand. The guy gets confused, then after a moment of careful thought, the man quickly reopens his money locker, and pulls out a few more notes. The girls also notice this!At the other end of the money locker spectrum: There are those of us who know the exact cost for what we get into, both in terms of time and service extras, so when the money locker opens, it only opens once as we pull out the correct amount (ohne Tip!) and then close the locker firmly shut, pay the girl and do not open it again until the end of the next session.

McAdonis
03-10-15, 17:41
At the other end of the money locker spectrum: There are those of us who know the exact cost for what we get into, both in terms of time and service extras, so when the money locker opens, it only opens once as we pull out the correct amount and then close the locker firmly shut, pay the girl and do not open it again until the end of the next session.Well I've seen a middle-aged Middle Eastern man stiff an Oase girl once. He handed over the money. She had a look like "where is the rest?" Then she just went crazy for a split second of barking before she restrained herself. She folded her arms and was just fuming. The man was smiling. He put both hands on her face, and just kissed her on the cheek. His locker was near mine and I was waiting for him to get out of the way. So I was fairly close to the action.

Craiova
03-10-15, 17:42
Yes, it is not uncommon to see big spenders at the money lockers. Like seeing a man pay two girls after a threesome, counting his green 100 EUR notes before he hands them over. The girls notice. The classic Oase scenario is when the man pays the girl. The girl explains something, whilst continuing to hold out her hand. The guy gets confused, then after a moment of careful thought, the man quickly reopens his money locker, and pulls out a few more notes. The girls also notice this!An other money hand over Oase scenario. Girl takes wallet out of hand of guy and takes as much money as she thinks this guy can afford. Have this scenario seen a couple of times at Oase, Palace and Mainhattan.

Syzygies
03-10-15, 18:01
All amusing scenarios, and yet no one believes me when I say I was ready to hand over the money, and the girl looks and says "What for?" and has me take 50 back. Unlike Ortos, seems I did not know exactly what was due. Misjudged the time. Usually I know but sometimes I have to ask the girl how long it was. Occassionally even the girl seems unsure what time we started, expecting me to know. These things only happen with long term regulars I guess.

If I ask a girl.how long the session was, regulars are trustworthy. They would not want to risk losing a customer by exaggerating. They will often only charge for 1 hour even if went slightly over time. Other times the session maybe went a little less than and hour.

Ortos
03-10-15, 20:45
All amusing scenarios, and yet no one believes me when I say I was ready to hand over the money, and the girl looks and says "What for?" and has me take 50 back. Why do you infer that nobody believes you? On the contrary, I bet most people here do. Immediately I read your original post about this incident (you posted about it, what?, one month or so ago?) I believed it all, naturaly. Had the ring of truth about it. And you hit the nail on your head just below with your comment about girls not wanting to loose a long-time regular client by getting picky over 5-10 minutes on the clock.

My post below about some guys knowing the exact cost of what they get into inside Zimmer was not a reference to your "50 e-zuruck" incident, indeed nothing to do with it, so please don't think I was judging harshly those that get so entralled with intimate sessions that we loose track of the time. Happens t all of us from time to time, and is a positive thing.

ForWebOnly
03-10-15, 22:34
I am a bit confused now. Venera does not speak English very good (very limited), while Craiova has always said his highly recommended Raissa of MH speaks excellent English. It seems to be two different girls to me. Anyone wants to clarify / confirm?As far as I can say, Venera is not Raissa from MH!

She used to use "Raissa" too, but it seems double names are not allowed and there she used Venera instead.

Dufey
03-10-15, 22:43
Well I've seen a middle-aged Middle Eastern man stiff an Oase girl once. He handed over the money. She had a look like "where is the rest?" Then she just went crazy for a split second of barking before she restrained herself. She folded her arms and was just fuming. The man was smiling. He put both hands on her face, and just kissed her on the cheek. His locker was near mine and I was waiting for him to get out of the way. So I was fairly close to the action.That is called charm. He got balls or as Nick the G would say two big kinder eggs.

Man, I bet he gets away with it all the time with the girls.

Then the same girls go and bump a Japanese customer for 150 euro for a hand-job.

Dufey
03-10-15, 23:46
Yes, it is not uncommon to see big spenders at the money lockers. Like seeing a man pay two girls after a threesome, counting his green 100 EUR notes before he hands them over. But man, the guy would have been seeing this scene in his red light lit small room in Oase. A bit like the one attached of the girls on their hands and knees with their arses willing to be fucked. Obligatory, standard issue yellow towels to lie down on for the red mattresses in the rooms.

What a sight.

I had a few scenes like this in my time.

The all round mirrors really make Oase special for the visual aspect of our male brains and for the memories.

ShooBree
03-10-15, 23:55
That is called charm. He got balls or as Nick the G would say two big kinder eggs.

Man, I bet he gets away with it all the time with the girls.

Then the same girls go and bump a Japanese customer for 150 euro for a hand-job.Charm?! Its disrespectful and probably illegal, fraud. Have you ever seen the same at a barbershop?

Isn't the point of having security that douche bags like that get taken care of and ends up paying one way or another, with their physical health and / or wallet. Like the Russian guy.

I'm pretty damn sure I wouldn't end up walking out of there Scot-free after a thing like that.

Dufey
03-11-15, 00:11
I know Angie for 1 year as Isabella, my ex fav retired, friend, she doesn' t work much at Oase and left World and her regulars because of management in World at the moment and club empty.For your memories. Some backside views of your ex favourite blonde small breasted Isabella who is retired in Italy.

Look for the blonde girl wearing the white suspender belt around her waist.

McAdonis
03-11-15, 00:13
That is called charm. He got balls or as Nick the G would say two big kinder eggs.

Man, I bet he gets away with it all the time with the girls.

Then the same girls go and bump a Japanese customer for 150 euro for a hand-job.After the handover of what was presumably lower than the agreed upon amount, the girl initially tried to clarify the "misunderstanding" over pricing. A couple seconds into her explanation, she stopped mid-sentence. He must have winked at her or something (his back was turned to me), because she came to the sudden realization that she wasn't going to get all her money. At that point, she erupted, swearing at him in her accented English. The Middle Eastern man didn't say a word except, "Noooo baby". As far as I could tell, his strategy was to smile profusely, feign understanding of the Oase pricing structure, and pretend not to speak English. At one point he even held his index finger up to his lips and gave her the "shush" be-quiet gesture. Then he made that attempt to kiss her on the cheek that I described earlier. Then he walked away still unable to wipe the smile off of his face.

Iceberg27
03-11-15, 00:26
For your memories. Some backside views of your ex favourite blonde small breasted Isabella who is retired in Italy.

Look for the blonde girl wearing the white suspender belt around her waist.Hi all,

The girl in pink is still working? What is her name? And what you guys think about her performance? Does she DFK?

Dufey
03-11-15, 00:33
Hi all,

The girl in pink is still working? What is her name? And what you guys think about her performance? Does she DFK?Girl in pink is Laura. She gives good service is ususlly happy and does DFK.

UltraHappy
03-11-15, 00:40
All amusing scenarios, and yet no one believes me when I say I was ready to hand over the money, and the girl looks and says "What for?" and has me take 50 back.I've had at least two instances when a girl argued with me that the amount was wrong and that I was paying her too much when I happened to be giving her a tip. One was a new girl at Oase. I had to explain to her, "When a client gives you extra money, you should say, 'Thank you,' instead of trying to give the money back. " Doesn't usually happen but it does happen.

I've also had the opposite where a girl tries to make me think that we spent more time in the room than we had, although those situations are rare to nonexistent nowadays, mostly confined to my early FKK career. In any case, I never have a problem quickly resolving those situations nowadays. It's the poor noobs who don't know how to handle those situations who suffer.

Sirioja
03-11-15, 00:56
For your memories. Some backside views of your ex favourite blonde small breasted Isabella who is retired in Italy.

Look for the blonde girl wearing the white suspender belt around her waist.Thanks and good luck for Isabella the Italian? But for me so pretty blond Romanian angel and I like friendly real GFE pretty Romanian girls.

Dufey
03-11-15, 06:18
Charm?! Its disrespectful and probably illegal, fraud. Have you ever seen the same at a barbershop?

Isn't the point of having security that douche bags like that get taken care of and ends up paying one way or another, with their physical health and / or wallet. Like the Russian guy.

I'm pretty damn sure I wouldn't end up walking out of there Scot-free after a thing like that.I understand you.

However note the second part of my note implying there are girls over charging clients as well and asking for tips. I have experienced this first hand at Oase.

I have known guys to over pay girls for their services since girls insist on 50 euro extra for kissing and ball licking. Is that also not fraud and illegal too? Or do we caregorise that as the girl using her wit and charm which is socially acceptable since they are pretty girls?

Do you just pay your barber their fee and tip your barber as well when they ask for a tip?

Henio
03-11-15, 10:20
I've had at least two instances when a girl argued with me that the amount was wrong and that I was paying her too much when I happened to be giving her a tip. One was a new girl at Oase. I had to explain to her, "When a client gives you extra money, you should say, 'Thank you,' instead of trying to give the money back. " Doesn't usually happen but it does happen.
And when someone gives you back the tip, perhaps you should just take it back and realise you are not in Kansas any more :-) Just sayin'.

Syzygies
03-11-15, 10:31
Recently some girl in Oase says she would like to take a handle and post. Oh dear! She did not mention her purpose and whether she would post as a girl or as a fake customer. The mind boggles. Would she post bad reports about thise she doesn't like? or just set the record straight?

My bad memory. I forget which girl. She may have been just pulling my leg.

TankTank123
03-11-15, 12:58
Recently some girl in Oase says she would like to take a handle and post. Oh dear! She did not mention her purpose and whether she would post as a girl or as a fake customer. The mind boggles. Would she post bad reports about thise she doesn't like? or just set the record straight? My bad memory. I forget which girl. She may have been just pulling my leg.One girl not too long ago told me that too, when she was very upset with a particular poster. Could be the same girl. However, as that person had not posted any adverse reports on her in the last few months; it might be a different girl if your 'recently' is very recent. I had perversely been hoping that he would put up another adverse post on her, just to see whether she would actually carry out what she said, and how she would do it.

Samplerr
03-11-15, 13:42
On Friday evening I paid my first visit to Oase since last summer. Business seemed okay there, nothing like the pre-GFC days when there were only 3 big clubs in the FFM area but decent enough. I saw a few faces that have been there for a decade now. Luisa, Victoria. Can't believe they're still working.

The location of the girls lockers these days makes it very convenient to sit in the jacuzzi and clock the available talent. Two really stood out for me. The first was a short brunette with torpedo like sillys, but I never ended up crossing paths with her.

The second girl, Chrissy, a tallish blonde with sillys and a slim figure with a good hip to waist differential. Previously worked in Golden Time, she is from Bulgaria. I had her pegged as an optic and didn't have good expectations on her service, but she surprised me. Friendly, energetic and good all round service. A definite repeat for me.

In hardware terms I think the club is overall better than it was years ago. The relax room, greatly improved coffee and moving the girls lockers were all big pluses, but as many others have mentioned removing the kino wall was a backward step. The rooms are still filthy though.

Hessen Bub
03-11-15, 18:00
Not an Oase scenario, but another big club in Germany: After a one hour session on the way back from the room she stops before we get to the locker. "You didn't come within the session, that was my fault, I'm not going to take any money from you. ".

HB.

SocratesNY
03-11-15, 18:00
Just got back from my first FKK trip from Frankfurt and had had a blast. I spent 3 days and went to 3 clubs (Mainhattan on Friday, Oase on Saturday and Sharks on Sunday) and spent 10-12 hours each day at each club. I gave my general experience on FKK clubs as a first-timer in the FAQ section, and my detailed report on each club in their respective section.

Oase: This club has the best facilities of the 3 clubs. It looks very new and opulent (9 out of 10). I can easily see this club being a joy to visit during the summer time. The club has a good mix of well-lit area (restaurant, whirlpool, sauna, spa area and men's relaxing lounge) with a more dimly-lit area (bar / lounge / stripper pole / dance floor and cinema). The rooms are also well-decorated and spacious. The food was only mediocre (5 out of 10), but I didn't go there for the food! The lineup of girls I saw on Saturday was decent, with at least 60+ girls, 5-7 girls in the 8-10 range in looks and another 15-25 more in the 7-8 range in looks.

Just like the club from my previous day, I was approached by a hard-selling girl within 30 seconds of leaving the shower. This time, she was a curvy brunette with an okay face named Alexandra and she said she was Italian (although she didn't look Italian to me and I've dated 2-3 Italian girls before). She was pretty friendly and when I told her that I had just arrived and wanted to relax and get a sense of the club first, she said "why not let me help you relax with a nice BJ". As I was in the Cinema, I asked her whether she wanted to do it right there and she said sure. I figure, what the heck, why not. Maybe it'll be as fun last night when I did it in the Cinema at Mainhattan. Unfortunately, her BJ skills weren't as good as Sandra from Mainhattan nor did she really want to kiss. Not sure if it's the out in the public thing (as the cinema in Oase is way more public than the one in Mainhattan) or just her normal level of service, but I stopped our session at 30 minutes and gave her a 10 tip when she asked for it as she did give an effort.

I then spent the next 10-15 minutes checking out the club and when I was going back to the cinema to grab a smoke, I stopped dead in my tracks when I saw Julia RO. Julia is tall, thin and simply gorgeous. I sat down next to her at the bar and we chatted for a while. I found Julia to be charming, innocent and super friendly. If we had met under different circumstances, I'the definitely want to date her on personality alone. I told her what I liked service wise and told her I'the like to do at least an one hour room with her. She led me to a spacious room and probably the nicest room that I've been to of the 3 clubs. The subsequent rooms I went to in Oase weren't as nice or large so it was probably due to the time of day (early afternoon) when most of the rooms were available. What followed was a five (yes five) hour marathon of super passionate GFE caliber foreplay, sex, chatting followed by more foreplay and energetic sex. If I can get her and Dona / Dana from Mainhattan together, I might have a heart attack! Time just went by so fast with Julia and I ended out room with a mind-blowing CIM finish.

I spent the next two hours recovering in the Sauna and got a pedicure and professional massage after a mediocre meal. As I was leaving the whirlpool to head to the bar / lounge to see if I find another girl to my liking, a voluptuous blonde named Roxanna made a loud laugh to a guy she was sitting with. I asked what was the joke and it was her gentleman friend who told me the joke and punchline. It was a corny joke and I laughed politely and he asked me to join them. The guy was super friendly and kept on raving about Roxanna. She normally wouldn't be my type (a buxom and voluptuous blonde who looked a little like Anna Nicole Smith, but not as pretty). He kept raving about how good her BJs were said I should take her to a room. Based on his recommendation, I decided to do just that. We decided on an hour room and when we started, she did only very mild DFK and not much foreplay. She wanted to go right to sucking my cock, but it was only an OK BJ. She tried to get me to do anal (which I wasn't into) and after a short BJ, she moved to a poor HJ. I decided to cover up and we started out in cowgirl, but she got tired of that quickly so we moved to missionary. She wasn't that into it or too passionate and with very mild LFK, I wasn't into it so moved to doggy. I have to admit, she has a nice plump juicy ass and the view from doggy was fantastic. However, she was pretty mechanical and didn't have much stamina as she soon wanted to go back to BJ in hopes of CIM. Her lackluster performance made the little guy go soft so I ended our session after 60 minutes and she tried to upsell me after our session by stating that she normally charge 50 for kissing, even for an one hour room. I politely declined and she tried to get a 20 euro tip from me instead. I tipped her 20 euro partly due to her nagging and partly because I was embarrassed about my performance issue. As it was the first time I've experienced it, I mostly wanted to be left alone.

I went back to the sauna and Jacuzzi in hopes of getting my blood flowing again and either see one more girl or end the night. However, like the previous night, I just didn't want my evening to end on a bad note so when I saw a super cute girl with glasses named Magda, I took her to a room hoping that the worst would be a relaxing end to my evening with some nice DFK and BBBJ and the best being another good end to my night. Magda gave very good GFE service and followed direction well. She also gives a very good erotic full body & private to private massage. Ended up spending 2 hours with Madga with a nice CIM finish.

Final note. I did want to see Julia a 2nd time, but our timing wasn't right. After my last session with Magda, I finally saw her again near the end of the night sitting with her friend Alexia. Alexia is a cute curvy brunette with glasses.

Sirioja
03-11-15, 18:21
Not an Oase scenario, but another big club in Germany: After a one hour session on the way back from the room she stops before we get to the locker. "You didn't come within the session, that was my fault, I'm not going to take any money from you. ".

HB.Usually girls ask me to make them come and pay me when we leave the room if I succeed, I pay only if I don't.

Breadman
03-11-15, 18:28
Not an Oase scenario, but another big club in Germany: After a one hour session on the way back from the room she stops before we get to the locker. "You didn't come within the session, that was my fault, I'm not going to take any money from you. ".

HB.Couple of years back I ran into this group from England at World, the next day ran into them again at Oase. One of the younger guys took a girl to the room and didn't have enough money on him, told her 'when I see my mates I'll get your money' and she walked away. Couple of hours later he gave her the 50 and he had to tell her it was for what he owed her, she completely forgot he owed her money.

Member #4581
03-11-15, 18:46
If that is the criterion, I would guess my FKK bill goes down by 75% or more. I manage one shot in four sessions, sometimes the ratio gets worse, especially on the third and fourth days of a marathon FKK week. I need to find more such girls as you described below, LOL.

On the flip side, this one time I went with suginella, I took an hour session but could not cum. I told her at the 40 min mark that I can't make it but if she could make me cum with BBBJ I would pay for CIM. Upto that point, she was her usual bad attitude self, but then she went on the job with gusto, and gave me a fantastic blow job. By the end, her saliva was dripping down by thighs and legs, LOL. But she could not make it happen by the hour mark, I said that's enough and just paid a hundred, and she was unbelievably pissed and took her money and walked away in a huff.


Not an Oase scenario, but another big club in Germany: After a one hour session on the way back from the room she stops before we get to the locker. "You didn't come within the session, that was my fault, I'm not going to take any money from you. ".

HB.

McAdonis
03-11-15, 18:55
Not an Oase scenario, but another big club in Germany: After a one hour session on the way back from the room she stops before we get to the locker. "You didn't come within the session, that was my fault, I'm not going to take any money from you. ".

HB.Interesting. How many times had you sessioned with her previously? I would have expected for her to just charge you for half-an-hour instead of the full hour. Was it a wise decision on her part to offer you a loyalty promotion? In other words, did you continue to session her?