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Member #4581
12-26-16, 16:04
It is hard for anyone to guarantee that your ?.......is around...... Having a single target girl often leads to disappointment, if have no contact details to make an appointment. Try to collect a few favourite girls and target girls you would like to try, so that there will be some options.
Its always a gamble. Sometimes girls change whether they work day or night shift or take a day off unexpectedly. Even intel obtained from other guys can be misinformation.You can say that again.
Not even the girl can guarantee that she will be there.
One of my special girls was supposed to meet me in the club this one time. I had met her the night before for a long session and of course several other times prior to that. I went to the club at 7 PM, which was our rendezvous time. She was not in. Waited and waited. Talked to her roommate, who was not sure where she was. Finally texted her, and she texts back that she is a bit late but will see me soon. 9 PM and still no girl. Finally at 10 PM she texts to say she is not coming (although she sleeps at the club itself and was literally less than 100 feet away) because something came up. All this time I was faithfully waiting for her, and passed on several other girls.
Another time, another girl said I will see you in the club in an hour. It was my first day of my German trip on that particular occasion. She was also on a holiday. We texted each other that morning, me after landing in Germany and she said she was getting into the plane in Romania. At 4 PM she says I am here, will see you soon. Well, 7 PM and I am in the club and she is not there. Not at 8 or 9 PM. Never mind that day, that whole week she is not there, still in Romania, as it turned out. Why she felt compelled to lie and say "I am here and will see you in an hour" is beyond me.
These are still nice girls and I don't blame them too much for lying. Sure it is disappointing that I missed them, but clubs are full of other girls, even when you miss your special favorites.
Member #4581
12-26-16, 16:10
Yes, the girls at Oase and Sharks for the most part already do everything I could want. Why would I want to pay more at Globe for the same thing? I could understand the attraction if there was something that the Oase girls as a rule didn't do that I could get at Globe, but with few exceptions, the Oase girls all provide everything I could ask for.
So, while I've been curious about the Swiss clubs, it looks as if I will have little motivation to venture elsewhere -- at least until the end of the world arrives on July 1st.Just curious, would you term July 1 the end of the world? Curious if you or others will migrate away from Germany due to the new laws. I guess we are all waiting to see how things shape up in reality at that time and subsequently. I started at the clubs with CBJ in my first few visits, discovered the "joys" of BBBJ, and now will miss them terribly of course, and not sure how I will react in a post modern BBBJ- banned Germany.
ExpatLover
12-26-16, 17:31
Yes, the girls at Oase and Sharks for the most part already do everything I could want. Why would I want to pay more at Globe for the same thing? I could understand the attraction if there was something that the Oase girls as a rule didn't do that I could get at Globe, but with few exceptions, the Oase girls all provide everything I could ask for.
With Globe prices what they are, I could use that same money for longer rooms at Oase. On top of that, not only are the room prices higher at Globe, but Globe also has higher entry price. Plus, everything else in Switzerland, including hotels are much more expensive than in Germany.
So, while I've been curious about the Swiss clubs, it looks as if I will have little motivation to venture elsewhere -- at least until the end of the world arrives on July 1st.On line with your comments, I don't expect big changes the 1st of July, who can control what is happening inside the room?
Member #4581
12-26-16, 20:47
In 2012 or 2013, there was this girl Isabella at Oase. Very slim, brunette, straight hair with a shortish cut, like some modern day Cleopatra. Fucked her on the couches in the kino, one of my first public sex acts ever. Never found her again. Wonder where she has disappeared. Would have loved to see her again.
Same for me: in Globe I spend much more money on a day than in Oase / Sharks, and most of time I am very happy to do this given the service attitude of the girls. Strangely I also experience similar high service in smaller clubs like Luder Lounge, Neby and Babylon, but for much lesser money than in Zurich or Hessen (but given the fact most girls there are lesser in optics, this seems fair and I still happilly pay the Globe premium sometimes to have the best of both worlds!Always better to say after visiting. Even Globe casting is quite average on December, but I prefer to pay Swiss rates for excellence and beauty, rather than 50 for not kissing GND and I don t enjoy to kiss a girl not attractive for my eyes. 6 girls met at Globe and History, all great GFE. 17 hours spent before going to room on my last visit at Oase and only because Irina. Ru came to me smiling and we spoke Russian. For my 2 last visits at Sharks, I think more than 27 hours spent and only 1 room, fortunately with the prettiest girl.
In 2012 or 2013, there was this girl Isabella at Oase. Very slim, brunette, straight hair with a shortish cut, like some modern day Cleopatra. Fucked her on the couches in the kino, one of my first public sex acts ever. Never found her again. Wonder where she has disappeared. Would have loved to see her again.On Summer 2013 , my beloved Isabella, her name in Hessen, was at Oase, often with Laura / Livia, on beginning of 2014 they moved to Sharks, Juicy stayed at Oase.
After 1 July 2017, BBBJ will remain in YY NL, for only 50 , on the border, Austria and of course my beloved Switzerland, at the moment 63 CHF /30 mn at Westside, small Globe brother, very close to the border. Also really great History with only 15/20 girls, close to the border and 70 kms from Freiburg.
On line with your comments, I don't expect big changes the 1st of July, who can control what is happening inside the room?Blasenpolitzei, be afraid, be very afraid.
Blasenpolitzei, be afraid, be very afraid.Perhaps there is something I am missing with the implementation of the new law on July 1. The only problem I see is if a SP intends to give the establishment some problems perhaps because management took the side of a customer instead of her. What may happen is that management would be more inclined to side with a SP even if she is in the wrong. My one experience has been that that is the case at Oase in any event.
Why she felt compelled to lie and say "I am here and will see you in an hour" is beyond me. I feel you, been in your shoes. But your story could be a good reminder that's there's no great benefit for these girls to update us on their whereabouts.
We're just johns, and even worse if you're not a local john. Maybe you get along with her and you're a sure 50 E, 100 E or 250 E, but that's just a fraction of what she pulls in, especially if you're only there periodically. On the other hand, if you were a regular, a missed appointment might be less tragic. Such is the situation of the fly-in client.
Maybe she really didn't plan to go in, but if circumstances changed and she had to, it would be convenient to have a sure thing waiting for her, who wouldn't hold it against her if she no-showed.
It's a client-provider relationship. If my masseuse or barber or lawyer or accountant had plenty of fans and could see me whenever they felt like, with no consequences, they probably would be just as cavalier.
Or maybe, she's just flaky like a lot of young women are. She may have liked having this small power over you.
Member #4585
12-28-16, 04:04
I feel you man. I have been there too.
My case was a German girl I quite liked a lot.
She would say she was going to work on X date and say so periodically up to the day I came then go radio silent when I arrived at the club. Her usual practice was this, confirm all week prior she is to work then no reaction on tje day she is meant to work even if it waa a lucrative weekend work day.
I never understood her motivation to be so unrealiable and say she was coming but never say slreh I am not comi g which would save me waitong and fretting about her arrival and declining other girls as options waiting for her.
There was times when I was in the club and I get messages saying sje was on her way and she kept confirming her attendance and never turn up. Her friends all said that she told them sje was coming to work and she would not sjow.
She was such a dissapointment.
You can say that again.
Not even the girl can guarantee that she will be there.
One of my special girls was supposed to meet me in the club this one time. I had met her the night before for a long session and of course several other times prior to that. I went to the club at 7 PM, which was our rendezvous time. She was not in. Waited and waited. Talked to her roommate, who was not sure where she was. Finally texted her, and she texts back that she is a bit late but will see me soon. 9 PM and still no girl. Finally at 10 PM she texts to say she is not coming (although she sleeps at the club itself and was literally less than 100 feet away) because something came up. All this time I was faithfully waiting for her, and passed on several other girls.
Another time, another girl said I will see you in the club in an hour. It was my first day of my German trip on that particular occasion. She was also on a holiday. We texted each other that morning, me after landing in Germany and she said she was getting into the plane in Romania. At 4 PM she says I am here, will see you soon. Well, 7 PM and I am in the club and she is not there. Not at 8 or 9 PM. Never mind that day, that whole week she is not there, still in Romania, as it turned out. Why she felt compelled to lie and say "I am here and will see you in an hour" is beyond me.
These are still nice girls and I don't blame them too much for lying. Sure it is disappointing that I missed them, but clubs are full of other girls, even when you miss your special favorites.
You can say that again.
Not even the girl can guarantee that she will be there.
These are still nice girls and I don't blame them too much for lying. Sure it is disappointing that I missed them, but clubs are full of other girls, even when you miss your special favorites.A few thoughts.
I don't believe you should be collecting contact info for girls so very fast. Wait till you know a girl quite well, and know that she is a no bullshit sort of girl. Could save you a lot of grief. I have not had a great deal of problems from girls I could contact, if any at all. Okay Once a long while back one asked for funds to enable her to get to the club to work. Only the one girl. So she was an unreliable choice. Naturally she did not show up at that time. LOL I had other girls of greater interest I am sure.
Better girls will general say they are not sure about their future attendance. They don't have crystal balls, that they can promise 100%.
2nd, nothing is absolutely guaranteed. I have been to see a girl only to find some customer has booked her for 8 hours. That is almost worse than her not showing up at all.
It is definitely preferable to have several target girls if at all possible, to reduce chances of all targets failing.
At some point I have had a girl who would text me on arrival at a club, so I did not have to waste entry unless was guaranteed she was present, assuming she is not a liar.
Unfortunately, due to being so slow to get any contact info for certain great girls, sometimes they disappeared never to be heard of again, so no means of checking what happened to them. I don't like to pester girls with messages anyway.
Once got some fake messages from a girl. A customer had stolen her phone, and suddenly the messages became grammatically better than before but misinformation.
If you meet a bullshitty type of girl, by all means have sex and fun, but don't bother communicating with her by message.
We all know girls are telling a lot of lies about their whereabouts. So better not to ask awkward questions. Just she can message me when she is working in Oase. Sometimes girls tell their location to more than one customer, and each gets a different story, then to guess which guy she does not lie to. So even when a well known poster specifies the girl location, he could be wrong. Probably the girl does not want to say which place the pimp/husband made her work in. LOL
Very dangerous to travel long distance specifically for just one girl. Maintain a harem of possible girls.
In 2012 or 2013, there was this girl Isabella at Oase. Very slim, brunette, straight hair with a shortish cut, like some modern day Cleopatra. Fucked her on the couches in the kino, one of my first public sex acts ever. Never found her again. Wonder where she has disappeared. Would have loved to see her again.This is not Sirioja's Isabella who was medium blonde not Cleopatra cut if I remember right. Also not the very well known long term Polish blonde Isabella retired now and certainly not very slim.
In May 2014 I listed an Isabella who probably matched your description, and had worked briefly in Sharks as "Ester" with her friend (also moved to Oase) beforehand. I believe she was dark brunette and very slim like you say. She did not last in Oase much longer I believe.
I also noticed Ester and friend Jirena? Moved from Sharks and now called Isabella and Ionella?
Isabella was a bit scrawny for my taste so indeed very slim, but TankTank implied he liked her look, I thought, unless his post was an ironical question.
8 Apr 2014:
And on my prior visit, there was Isabella, with a cleapatra like hair cut, pretty with a stunning figure.
From 2012:
My buddy M from Italy did Isabella and rated her quite highly. I mean to try her soon after chatting to her yesterday and I got a good vibe from her. Looks a bit similar to Ebru (Turkey) but more lively, slightly prettier, and slimmer with very hot bottom and small but good tits. Has a small nose diamond on left side.
Didn't strike me as looking typically Indian exactly, but I can see why somebody might say that, having seen some models / stars from a Bollywood movie.
Traveling from the US, I deliberately made 1 day layovers in Frankfurt en route and in return from Dubai so that I could experience the FKK scene for the first time. My initial plan was to go to Oase on my first layover on 12/13 and then to Sharks on my return layover on 12/21. However, for a variety of reasons I did not go to an FKK on my return trip through Frankfurt.
I had been a lurker on the FKK boards for some time but with an upcoming trip through connecting through Frankfurt, I read the Frankfurt FKK boards more intently for several prior months leading up to my trip, posting some questions that were graciously answered by the veterans of the FKK scene. Eventually I decided on Oase and Sharks for my initial visits from the Frankfurt area big 5 (Oase, Sharks, Mainhatten, Palace, World), primarily because of the information I could gather from these boards gave me the sense that these two places would be better for a first timer. However, I didn't make it to FKK Sharks.
I had stayed at an AirBNB place near the Frankfurt airport mainly because I had an early arrival from US and wanted an early check in option, hotels wanted to charge significantly more for early check in, and I didn't want to visit my first FKK without resting for some time. I ended up resting longer than I planned and I headed out around 4 pm, took the S5 from the main train station and exited at the Bad Humburg station. I realize I could have exited at the Friedrischdorf station, but reading that it was an "open" station with no overhead covered areas, possibly having to wait for taxis and because it was raining when I arrived, I just decided to get off at Bad Humburg station which is an actual building covered station and taxis readily available upon exiting from the station. I was quoted 20 E by taxi driver to go to Oase, which then took about 25 minutes because of some traffic. The taxi driver received a 10 E commission right in front of me from Oase upon my arrival. (I wonder if the entry is 60 E if not arriving by taxi?.) I ended up arriving after 5 pm and so was not able to get the reduced entry and end up having to pay 70 E to enter. As a newbie, I'm not sure that there was a way to avoid using the taxi to arrive at Oase from either train station, unless you hire a car. When I left Oase around 10 pm, reception called a taxi for me, it had stopped raining and I headed to the Friedrishdorf station for 10 E and about 10 minutes. This was an open station, a few taxis were available, but I felt I made the right call in getting off at Bad Humburg station on my arrival.
In reading the FKK Oase board prior to my arrival, I was put off reading about the aggressiveness of the girls, the up-selling in the rooms, and not delivering as agreed upon. In fact, I had thought of skipping the FKKs completely based on reading this and just saving my time, money and energy for Dubai, but since the FKK experience was something I wanted to check off my bucket list, I decided to go. I was pleasantly surprised. As I soon as I sat down, several girls would come and introduce themselves, but not in a hardcore aggressive way that I had expected. Even when the same girls approached me later a second or third time, it really wasn't in an annoying way. Many had asked if they could sit for a few minutes with me, which I allowed the ones I was interested because this gave me time to check potential chemistry in the rooms without actually having to commit to taking them. The ones I wasn't interested in, I just said that politely that they weren't my type and they moved away without any drama. Personally, of all the up-selling possibilities, the only requirement I had was that of BBJ (not with CIM, COF, COB) and I made it clear that if I took them for 30 minutes for the 50 E, if they were good at BBJ I would keep them for the hour, but with the 100 E hour rate and nothing additional. Since I was there for the experience and I was now in my 50's, it was more important to me to have a few good experiences than to have sex with several different girls. My strategy worked as I had only good experiences and no disappointments or frustration. BTW- I watched an older guy getting a BBJ on the couch by the theater area. I was told you could do that for the same 50 E 30 minute rate or the 100 E 1 hour rate and that you could even split the time between the couch and a room.
Regarding the club itself, it was very impressive to a newbie with no other comparisons. The locker room was clean for the most part, I liked the bar area, the eating area, and the Jacuzzi area. There is a "money" locker to the right when you walk in from the reception where you can store small items and have easy access to your money without walking down the stairs to the main locker room. The food wasn't great, but edible and was included in the entry as well as nonalcoholic drinks. There are some tables outside the Jacuzzi area where I was able to just sit back and relax, but a few girls that I had previously talked to did come by and check on me. There apparently is a sleeping area upstairs next the restaurant (accessed in back corner of where the Jacuzzi is) and there are saunas, but I didn't go to either area. The outside courtyard looked impressive and during summer months, seems like would be a good area to relax. Alcoholic drinks were 10 E (get tokens from reception) and although most girls don't drink, I did buy 1 drink for 1 girl. The rooms were also comfortable and had mirrors that added to the whole experience with some rooms being "smaller" than others, but still not cramped.
The girls themselves impressed me since I prefer the slim / athletic bodies and the girl next door look in the "7" rating scale. I don't chase after "stunners" and, in fact, I didn't see any during my visit. I did see a few "8's", but didn't chase them either because either they seemed to have more of attitude or just gave me the wrong vibe. (I think one of them may be the same girl described in one of the negative posts below). I didn't go looking for any specific girls named on this board, primarily because I believe in the YMMV concept and I need to feel a girl out myself to decide. From what I can recall, there were many Romanians, some Hungarians, a girl from Cameroon by way of Paris, a German girl, a few Asians, and I think 1 from Russia. Romanians were predominant (and happily met my preferences). All except 1 Romanian spoke good English. BTW for all newbies, the girls are naked in the club except for the eating area, except if its a theme lingerie night. There is a "day" shift and a "night" shift with some girls overlapping. I believe the night shift starts at 8pm.
So, overall, my first FKK experience was a success and I'm glad I didn't bypass the FKKs all together from reading some of the negatives on this board. Although I now am able to check off something on my bucket list, coming from US, I don't see myself taking a whole week or so going on a "FKK tour", but if future travel plans go through Germany, then I would arrange a layover en route and in return so that I could spend some more time in the same or different FKKs. For those that have easier access to the FKKs by living in closer proximity, I can certainly see the value in FKKs over other types of establishments. For Oase, I would recommend arriving before 4 pm to take advantage of the reduced entry fee and if needing to take a taxi, do so from the Friedrischdorf station (weather permitting) -- this alone would save 30 E before walking in the door. Maybe there are other secrets that FKK vets can share.
Hopefully, this report will be useful to other newbies to the FKK scene, or at least newbies to FKK Oase.
Since I was there for the experience and I was now in my 50's, it was more important to me to have a few good experiences than to have sex with several different girls.Bijou,
Interesting report that shows that Newbies can have a pretty good time, although its likely your requirements were varied from average customers. Obviously a report for other potential newbies to read.
You are perhaps a little bit long winded about your personal travel circumstances and reasons, rather than just reviewing Oase. Also would have been nice to include something about specific girls and how good they were (or otherwise), or whether they could be recommended. It is not quite clear what your "few good experiences" meant. I guess you are like Bill Clinton and don't regard a BBBJ as "sex". LOL Slightly confused by your text that I quoted.
Yes it is possible to save some Euros as you indicate by arriving before the cut off time, which is certainly what most of us would do. Friedrichsdorf mostly does have taxis available at the time you needed them.
Since you seem to have a had a good time, I doubt that Sharks would have been vastly different for you, other than it is a bigger in terms of open space, and probably has more girls and customers right now, but not higher quality of girls for looks in my opinion.
Oase does have a relax area if you happened to arrive a bit early. Guys could even sleep there.
I only became aware of ISG after I started attending FKK and was told about it by a Palace customer. So my first FKK visit (not in Frankfurt) was having no idea what it was about, or how it worked. LOL Thought it was going to be vaguely like a Tabletop club, because an advertisement said "tabulose" (which turns out actually means lacking taboos LOL) but was proved very very wrong, and it was a nice surprise. One slim blonde model I did on my first FKK visit invited me to go watch her shave her pussy in the shower. It was a very nice touch. LOL Approx. 2003 or 2004.
I did not have the impediment of too any preconceptions about FKK, and initially I did not know anything about the "big" clubs.
I guess you might be needing more than one day next time. LOL What I liked specially when I first started was clubs had several girl nationalities and origins. Good variety. Exotic girls.
I never understood her motivation to be so unrealiable and say she was coming but never say slreh I am not comi g which would save me waitong and fretting about her arrival and declining other girls as options waiting for her.
There was times when I was in the club and I get messages saying sje was on her way and she kept confirming her attendance and never turn up. Her friends all said that she told them sje was coming to work and she would not sjow.
.A big factor in why many of these girls are on the game is their general flakiness. Hooking and porn are the default gig for girls who can't hack a regular job, especially if they like to indulge in a few substances during working hours.
Ibn Buttita
12-29-16, 00:06
Winter memories of summer fun. Back in July I made about a week's FKK trip to Germany, generally Hesse, and followed it up with a couple of days in August near Stuttgart and back to Frankfurt. The fall has been busy so I'm just getting to the reports now. Continued from World.
I woke up in Garbenteich with a morning ticket to Frankfurt. Since I stayed at World much later than intended I didn't get much sleep and had to rush to make the train, dragging my luggage behind me. I made the train to Giessen and the connection to Frankfurt, and once there checked into a hotel near the train station. Then it was back on the train to get up to Oase. The thing about German trains, places that look fairly close don't necessarily have the right connections, so it usually means Frankfurt is the linchpin the travel plans. But getting up to Burgholzhausen was quick enough; I like connecting through Friedrichsdorf and walking through the attractive burg (-holzhausen). The walk through farmland and wooded paths to the rural side of Oase is sometimes the best exposure to nature (except for women in their natural state of dress) that I get on a trip.
It was a perfect summer day for Oase, sunny and warm enough for most of the girls that afternoon to be lying out and tanning their naked bodies, perspiration glistening off breasts and asses. I enjoyed this scene as I ate my lunch, and when I relocated to the indoor-outdoor sitting area (the best vantage point in the club with great views and protection from unwanted approaches), I spotted my first target for the day lying on her stomach on a lounge chair near the path from the building.
She was a short girl with fair complexion and auburn hair cut short with one side of her head almost shaved, a look I have mixed feelings about. I am not a real fan but it does make the girl look very slutty and sexually confident to me, a good sign. She was speaking on her phone for what seemed like ages, and when she put it down another guy stepped right in. Fortunately it was a brief flirt and she was soon free.
I approached her while I had the chance and we quickly went to one of the tents in the garden. The doorway flaps could not be closed completely and as we lay down and started kissing that concerned her a bit, but soon the passion was surging as our tongues interlocked and we stroked each other's genitals. Inna's Celtic Irish or German look had me ragingly horny, accentuated by the way she looked at me with sexy eyes and slid down to take my cock inter her mouth with expertise. I needed to taste her pussy so I had her spin around into a 69 that lasted seemingly forever. Her smallish body was ideas for riding, her perky tits making me drool. But just because Inna was small didn't mean she could not take a pounding, and in missionary she liked me hammering my cock deep and hard. I also came hard, as you might expect from the account of this session, it ranks as one of my best at Oase, and I had hopes for seeing Inna later that day.
I next had one of those sessions where the initial interactions make things look so promising, but it does not really pan out. I noticed a petite blonde, who turned out to be an Oase newcomer (but a regular at Finca Erotica in Dierdorf I believe) and we sat for a bit in one of the outside covered loungers, and seemed to hit it off fine. Mira preferred indoors so we found a room, and once inside she was pleasant enough, but the sex just wasn't memorable. I can't even remember why it wasn't that good!
This was the day of the Euro 2016 final, but not being a big football fan I had other sport in mind. This often happens in all realms of my life: when faced with a surplus of time or opportunities, I squander them. While some girls were watching the match most were not, so were sitting unoccupied and bored while the men flocked around all television screens. With so much time available to make a move I took a sauna and lounged around and frittered away most of the time and was too picky in making a selection, until the game (to me at least) suddenly ended.
I lingered indecisively pondering what to do, when I saw Inna pass, but unfortunately she was not available. That's when one of the most beautiful women I've ever met in this hobby sauntered over. Daniela is the kind of woman whose beauty makes them look aloof or intimidating, a Catherine Zeta-Jones type. But I threw caution to the wind and almost instantly invited this Romanian brunette (a student if I recall, making some tuition money in the summer) to a room. Soon my fears were confirmed, when she asked what kind of session I wanted. This kind of question usually signals an upsell, a purely transactional encounter not worth a damn, so my heart sunk. But hope was rekindled when she explained that she wanted to know the style I preferred, for example something romantic or hard sport fucking. Relieved that she was actually being more customer oriented, I relaxed and made my intentions clear by leaning in to kiss her on the lips.
The romantic approach was a good one with Daniela soft, wet kissing a pleasure with her. I proceeded downward to plant kisses on her nipples and stomach and then slid my tongue along her inner thighs and pussy lips. Sustained lingual attention to her pussy got her juices flowing, literally, my face getting soaked in the process. I complied when she asked me to finger her, producing a quivering orgasm for her. From there the two hours proceeded with that kind of slow-burn passion, beginning with me sliding my dick inside her lubricated pussy slow and shallow to rapid and deep. Her sensual moves riding me cowgirl were accentuated by the view of her gorgeous face and the feel of her small, soft breasts cupped in my hands. And there was no better sight than her nodding and then taking my cock between her lips when I asked to come in her mouth, which she induced with exquisite skill.
With time for one last session (I was aiming for one of the last two Friedrichsdorf-Frankfurt trains after midnight) I considered my choices. While I usually try to avoid girls who approach, I have had some good experiences among the bad, and so I listened when a partly Asian looking girl came up to me. She was this fascinating mix of innocent, with a cute face, pleasantly rounded features (facially and bodywise), and a delightful smiley, bubby, and somewhat ditzy manner, in combination with a dominatrix-chic black leather and fishnet outfit. When I had spied her earlier the dark side of her appearance kept me away but her sweetness drew me in. Selena was Thai-Romanian as I recall (linking two of the great mongering empires). Selena proved to be rather energetic, with good blowjob skills and in general a fine fuck, helping me close out another successful Oase visit.
Continued at Mainhattan.
Bismarck69
12-29-16, 08:13
I was wondering what happened to Victoria, I would session with her again anytime. Sub standard service levels at Oase latelly, upsell and angry demands for tips at the money lockers. Not good.
I agree with your point of chemistry, makes completely the difference. Also I agree that Oase isn't anymore the place it used to be, but this count for almost all other clubs in a similar way.
And yes most of the "stars" (a word I don't like) disappeared at Oase, but I don't find them at Sharks. From the long time Oase "stars" I see only CZ Hannah at carp pond. Which others are there?
And I disagree with your "Oase wants only young woman" statement. For instance long time Oase regular Polish Victoria worked till around 40 yo there before she has changed to the well known old ladies club GT in Bruggen. Or "Italian" Lucia worked there also close to 40. And still there is long time girl half Moroccan girl Lousia, far over 30 yo. And the Oase line up these days has also a lot of new girls close to 30 yo or even slightly higher.
ExpatLover
12-29-16, 16:52
Traveling from the US, I deliberately made 1 day layovers in Frankfurt en route and in return from Dubai so that I could experience the FKK scene for the first time. My initial plan was to go to Oase on my first layover on 12/13 and then to Sharks on my return layover on 12/21. However, for a variety of reasons I did not go to an FKK on my return trip through Frankfurt.
I had been a lurker on the FKK boards for some time but with an upcoming trip through connecting through Frankfurt, I read the Frankfurt FKK boards more intently for several prior months leading up to my trip, posting some questions that were graciously answered by the veterans of the FKK scene. Eventually I decided on Oase and Sharks for my initial visits from the Frankfurt area big 5 (Oase, Sharks, Mainhatten, Palace, World), primarily because of the information I could gather from these boards gave me the sense that these two places would be better for a first timer. However, I didn't make it to FKK Sharks.
I had stayed at an AirBNB place near the Frankfurt airport mainly because I had an early arrival from US and wanted an early check in option, hotels wanted to charge significantly more for early check in, and I didn't want to visit my first FKK without resting for some time. I ended up resting longer than I planned and I headed out around 4 pm, took the S5 from the main train station and exited at the Bad Humburg station. I realize I could have exited at the Friedrischdorf station, but reading that it was an "open" station with no overhead covered areas, possibly having to wait for taxis and because it was raining when I arrived, I just decided to get off at Bad Humburg station which is an actual building covered station and taxis readily available upon exiting from the station..Thanks for your report, but why making the things so complicated and theoretical, it seems you are coming from far what will it change for you to spend 50 euros more, sex in Germany will remain one of the cheapest in the world, just recommend you to choose the girl you like and go with her to the room and tell her to give you good service and I will stay with you. I often do this and stay 3 of 5 hours with the same girl and just getting great service.
Member #4581
12-29-16, 21:20
Thanks for your report, but why making the things so complicated and theoretical, it seems you are coming from far what will it change for you to spend 50 euros more, sex in Germany will remain one of the cheapest in the world, just recommend you to choose the girl you like and go with her to the room and tell her to give you good service and I will stay with you. I often do this and stay 3 of 5 hours with the same girl and just getting great service.I agree with you Expat.
Bijou's report was very good but I am more like you on this topic. I was a newbie not that long ago. I was running around like a headless chicken on my first day at Oase, not knowing who to fuck. There were so many and I wanted all of them, LOL. These days, when I get jaded and become blasé with all those naked girls, I remind myself of that first day, and how lucky I am to be in these clubs.
It appears he is more experienced in other locations like Dubai, so perhaps he is less in awe. However, I had been to establishments in Spain, NL, and of course US prior to my first FKK visit, and nothing came even remotely close. Now, I can't imagine attending clubs in other countries, and when I travel to Spain or other places, I just do some sightseeing and have a nice dinner but skip mongering over there and save energies for Germany.
As you said, taxi, hotel room, etc etc add up to a few bucks, but the cost / benefit ratio is so strongly in favor of FKK, those things hardly matter in the larger scheme of things. Less than 5 years ago, I had spent $500 one night in a US strip club on lap dances and all I had to show for it was some boobies rubbed in my face. Lucky for me, I have discovered FKK since then!
BTW, can we have a big round of thanks and three cheers for the fantastic reports from the one and only Ibn Buttita! Way to go man.
Antonio Fr
12-30-16, 02:05
I was today in Oase and I have a good experience with a girl Daria. She is from Romania, blond hair, natural bubs and a very strong ass. We speak about 10 ten and after we go in the room and we stay 1 hour and she gives a very good service. Make me a very good blowjob, and we try some position, don't was a lazy girl. She speak only English but this don't was a bad point for she. Is smiley and laughing all the time. I waiting to come back in this club to meet she!
For instance long time Oase regular Polish Victoria worked till around 40 yo there before she has changed to the well known old ladies club GT in Bruggen. Or "Italian" Lucia worked there also close to 40. And still there is long time girl half Moroccan girl Lousia, far over 30 yo. And the Oase line up these days has also a lot of new girls close to 30 yo or even slightly higher.I know all three of these girls -- or women, as it were. Victoria and Lucia are gone? That's a shame. They were there when I began my journey in the demimonde. Always friendly faces. Time moves quickly. I can only imagine how Mauro feels.
I was today in Oase and I have a good experience with a girl Daria. She is from Romania, blond hair, natural bubs and a very strong ass. We speak about 10 ten and after we go in the room and we stay 1 hour and she gives a very good service. Make me a very good blowjob, and we try some position, don't was a lazy girl. She speak only English but this don't was a bad point for she. Is smiley and laughing all the time. I waiting to come back in this club to meet she!Ha ha. Bad grammar, but no problem, since your post is still far easier to understand than Sirioja, who does not manage to separate thoughts with full stops.
One problem is it's your first post, so no one yet knows whether to believe you or not. Can you tell us about any other girls you tried, to make it a bit more convincing.
BadinSweet
12-30-16, 05:20
I was today in Oase and I have a good experience with a girl Daria. She is from Romania, blond hair, natural bubs and a very strong ass. We speak about 10 ten and after we go in the room and we stay 1 hour and she gives a very good service. Make me a very good blowjob, and we try some position, don't was a lazy girl. She speak only English but this don't was a bad point for she. Is smiley and laughing all the time. I waiting to come back in this club to meet she!I must have been talking to too many Romanians as this sounds just like what the girls would write to me with the same grammar mistakes. (not saying that this is not a real encounter).
"I was today in".
"this don't was bad".
"for she".
"Is smiling and laughing".
"I waiting".
On a side note, girls really read this forum specially when they are back to Romania. I already got a message from someone as she could identify that it was me writing and said "Thanks for the review".
I know all three of these girls -- or women, as it were. Victoria and Lucia are gone? That's a shame. . . . I can only imagine how Mauro feels.Louisa is still at Oase, Victoria is at Golden Time in Bruggen and "Italian" Lucia I don't know haven't seen her on my last Oase trips.
Hmm maybe this is the reason why he has allowed Sylvana to work at Oase. LOL.
Antonio Fr
12-31-16, 01:33
I must have been talking to too many Romanians as this sounds just like what the girls would write to me with the same grammar mistakes. (not saying that this is not a real encounter).
"I was today in".
"this don't was bad".
"for she".
"Is smiling and laughing".
"I waiting".
On a side note, girls really read this forum specially when they are back to Romania. I already got a message from someone as she could identify that it was me writing and said "Thanks for the review".Sorry for my bad English I am Italian. And yes is my first time when I write one post like this. I write about my time there in the club!
BadinSweet
12-31-16, 04:32
Sorry for my bad English I am Italian. And yes is my first time when I write one post like this. I write about my time there in the club!Please, don't be. And please don't take it a wrong way, I was only stating those because it sounded just like what girls normally said to me.
ExpatLover
12-31-16, 05:09
I was today in Oase and I have a good experience with a girl Daria. She is from Romania, blond hair, natural bubs and a very strong ass. We speak about 10 ten and after we go in the room and we stay 1 hour and she gives a very good service. Make me a very good blowjob, and we try some position, don't was a lazy girl. She speak only English but this don't was a bad point for she. Is smiley and laughing all the time. I waiting to come back in this club to meet she!Thanks for your report, yes she is really a sweet girl and you forget to mention that she is also quite tight which was a surprise for me knowing that she is not skinny at all.
I write about my time there in the club!Really? Most first timers write about travel to the club, food, facilities, ambience, why you picked Oase, etc. , admittedly when English is easy. You only write one girl advertisement. LOL Some of us are skeptics. We don't believe everything really easy.
So it is just that you did not do enough to make your post really believable, without question.
. I guess you are like Bill Clinton and don't regard a BBBJ as "sex". LOL Slightly confused by your text that I quoted.I personally don't see BBBJ as sex either. In my head 'sex' is strictly penetration. Nothing more, nothing less.
I personally don't see BBBJ as sex either. In my head 'sex' is strictly penetration. Nothing more, nothing less.For me, real sex is kissing, caressing, tasty DATY, BJ and kissing while fucking. Sex without kissing or foreplay is not real sex for me, only animal sex, maybe I fell from the tree since too long time. Many girls say I m romantic.
Jnp, I was surprised about your appointments problems. Usually girls are happy when we take appointments. Aylice never forgot, even I sometimes canceled but she stayed smiling. Madi went to World on week days even she knew she would have slow business, when I couldn't go on week end. On 2 January Wednesday when Wengen and Kitzbühel, she had only my 2 rooms, so she made 200- entry 90, I said to her I was very sorry she has to work for 10 hours for only 110 €, she answered: It's OK, see you next week? Even crazy Ariana started earlier when I said to her I couldn't stay late because had to drive to ski. Emma. Ro at Prestige said: We have appointment at 2 pm, you just arrive, you are not ready? So I answered: Go with a better client if you want. She was the top GFE full busy superstar on December 2013, but she waited I took shower and ate after driving from Paris. We started about 15 mn late.
Some girls also send messages: When will you come? I miss you. They should write: I miss your money. That's the game.
Hessen Bub
12-31-16, 11:21
I personally don't see BBBJ as sex either. In my head 'sex' is strictly penetration. Nothing more, nothing less.The law doesn't care too much how you see it. BBBJ is banned from July 2017. Definitely.
HB.
The law doesn't care too much how you see it. BBBJ is banned from July 2017. Definitely.
HB.But only in Germany. Will this law be for all landers? Poor NRW seem more wide opened than rich Bavaria.
I personally don't see BBBJ as sex either. In my head 'sex' is strictly penetration. Nothing more, nothing less.I did not have sex with that woman! Sound familiar? Hahaha!
Reef LostCause
12-31-16, 13:11
I was today in Oase and I have a good experience with a girl Daria. She is from Romania, blond hair, natural bubs and a very strong ass. We speak about 10 ten and after we go in the room and we stay 1 hour and she gives a very good service. Make me a very good blowjob, and we try some position, don't was a lazy girl. She speak only English but this don't was a bad point for she. Is smiley and laughing all the time. I waiting to come back in this club to meet she!
Ha ha. Bad grammar, but no problem, since your post is still far easier to understand than Sirioja, who does not manage to separate thoughts with full stops.
One problem is it's your first post, so no one yet knows whether to believe you or not. Can you tell us about any other girls you tried, to make it a bit more convincing.If you guys are talking about Darla (Romanian, platinum blonde, big boobs / big ass, built for comfort if you see what I mean), I can confirm she's cool and gives friendly service.
And I have a grand total of 70 posts to support my facts. LOL.
Got maybe 3 or 4 sessions w / her, and the only annoyance I got was that, during halftime in 1-hour sessions, she insisted in smoking a cigarette inside the room. So it is I who had to leave the room to take a quick shower. But I don't think she even does that anymore.
During my first social time with her, she was constantly toying and mashing her boobs during the conversation. I told her to stop that as I could not concentrate on the conversation. So she said "it feels good. Do you want to try?" : o).
The law doesn't care too much how you see it. BBBJ is banned from July 2017. Definitely.
HB.Excuse my ignorance! BBBJ illegal in all FKK clubs?
I am quite surprised by you report but everything can happen, I always go there for 10 AM to meet the day shift girls, could you tell us which day and when you visited Oasse?Sorry for late reply. It was the Thursday before the Oase Christmas party. I was surprised how dead it was between 6 pm to 10 pm (time I arrived and departed). Maybe a couple of dozen guys there max at any one time.
Most of the regular line up were there I. E. Claudia (Aida), Alexia, Jasmine, Juicy, petite spinner Andra (Andrea returning from Globe) but I wanted to try someone new and off the newbies, nothing stood out.
I had much better time later in the month at GT Vienna and Wellcum in Austria. The line ups there optically were much better comparatively.
Howie.
PussyLiccker
12-31-16, 20:12
I had much better time later in the month at GT Vienna and Wellcum in Austria. The line ups there optically were much better comparatively.
Howie.Better based on holiday visits for both? After mid Dec? Oase most recent and Wellcum and GT ealier? Wellcum and GT attendance didn't go down as much due to holidays?
Member #4581
12-31-16, 21:23
Jnp, I was surprised about your appointments problems. Usually girls are happy when we take appointments...But the situations I described happened. Exactly as I wrote here. I don't think they lied. Lie is a dirty word, a strong word, LOL. The better explanation is that they probably intended to meet me, but circumstances changed for them. I am not bitter or even angry / unhappy. Was disappointed for a couple of hours and moved on, there are many other girls. Anyway, my point was to point out that girls' lists which we print here, and guys asking endlessly "is xyz girl going to be in the club on a specific day" can be at best answered in a probabilistic manner, because girls change minds too often, and even when they themselves intend to attend on a certain day and promise clients they will be present, something can change at the last minute.
Hessen Bub
01-01-17, 00:53
Excuse my ignorance! BBBJ illegal in all FKK clubs?All over Germany. Yes. Search the board, plenty of information on the changes.
HB.
ExpatLover
01-01-17, 06:05
Sorry for late reply. It was the Thursday before the Oase Christmas party. I was surprised how dead it was between 6 pm to 10 pm (time I arrived and departed). Maybe a couple of dozen guys there max at any one time.
Most of the regular line up were there I. E. Claudia (Aida), Alexia, Jasmine, Juicy, petite spinner Andra (Andrea returning from Globe) but I wanted to try someone new and off the newbies, nothing stood out.
I had much better time later in the month at GT Vienna and Wellcum in Austria. The line ups there optically were much better comparatively.
Howie.I never go there at night, but my feeling is that more and more girls are working day shift (not true for Shark) so they can have a more regular / standard life.
ExpatLover
01-01-17, 06:41
The law doesn't care too much how you see it. BBBJ is banned from July 2017. Definitely.
HB.But HB what I really never understood is how it will be possible to control what is happening in the rooms knowing that the doors are locked. Thanks for your explanations.
Hessen Bub
01-01-17, 10:24
But HB what I really never understood is how it will be possible to control what is happening in the rooms knowing that the doors are locked. Thanks for your explanations.Read the forum. It's been discussed in detail. Let's wait and see. From my pov nobody can control what's happening inside a locked room.
Hb.
Most of the regular line up were there I. E. Claudia (Aida), Alexia, Jasmine, Juicy, petite spinner Andra (Andrea returning from Globe) but I wanted to try someone new and off the newbies, nothing stood out.
I am biased toward repeating favorite girls, but even so I don't think Oase is the best choice for guys wanting to try new girls more than anything else. You get upsell problems for a start, and total number of newer girls is probably much less than Sharks.
Does not mean new girls cannot be successful, but I am reluctant to pull the trigger too hastily.
Hessen Bub
01-01-17, 11:35
But only in Germany. Will this law be for all landers? Poor NRW seem more wide opened than rich Bavaria.Landers? It's a national law valid in all (federal) states in Germany.
HB.
ExpatLover
01-01-17, 12:02
Read the forum. It's been discussed in detail. Let's wait and see. From my pov nobody can control what's happening inside a locked room.
Hb.Thanks and I agree with you, this law for me is more targeting gang bang party without condom, or Aldi FKK in which sex without condoms is more or less a standard. I don t believe that in the FKK like Oase, Shark, World etc. The new law will change the things.
Member #4585
01-01-17, 12:06
A big factor in why many of these girls are on the game is their general flakiness. Hooking and porn are the default gig for girls who can't hack a regular job, especially if they like to indulge in a few substances during working hours.I totally agree with your assessment. Some of these girls cannot hold down a normal job because of the way they live so flexibly. They need the program for work that is not routine and allows for their random lapseI think some of these fully intens to come to work but then something comes up which can be quite whimsical and the girl does not appear for work at all. Telling the customer of their non attendance just does not featire as important to do.
Landers? It's a national law valid in all (federal) states in Germany.
HB.Same than allowance to drive or not. At the moment, I can again, between LR and Aca, to Liestal. I will try to resist to wait Kate to be off, to go to Isabella. Before I waited Isabella to be off, to go to meet only Kate because she didn't like I go with Isabella, but even I don t judge, even it will be painful to resist, lies and public sex kill illusion.
So we will have to go out of Germany, YY NL for 50/30 mn and entry 50 before 2 pm, Austria and white Swiss chocolate, to enjoy so good, deep, long time BBBJ. CBJ have really no interest for me, I don t need to pay for time for sucking a condom.
I m just happy this law should protect poor girls health about risky AO sex and not anymore sleeping in rooms where they are fucked, like at Aca, LR, GT, Sharks sometimes.
But the situations I described happened. Exactly as I wrote here. I don't think they lied. Lie is a dirty word, a strong word, LOL. The better explanation is that they probably intended to meet me, but circumstances changed for them. I am not bitter or even angry / unhappy. Was disappointed for a couple of hours and moved on, there are many other girls. Anyway, my point was to point out that girls' lists which we print here, and guys asking endlessly "is xyz girl going to be in the club on a specific day" can be at best answered in a probabilistic manner, because girls change minds too often, and even when they themselves intend to attend on a certain day and promise clients they will be present, something can change at the last minute.I don't mean you didn't experience, I'm just surprised because girls seem to look for appointments for their business. My regulars usually ask me: When do we meet again? When I meet them on Friday or Saturday, asking: Do You come tomorrow? They seem to think Paris is close to FRA or DUSS or Switzerland now. But I agree FKK are land of lies, jealousy and bullshit. Even most of my regulars know my profile, I prefer to give them so they can read what I really write, rather than being bullshit, and I have nothing to hide to them about my writings. When they read or I show them on my phone, no more problem. I only say to them I have to return home when I plan to go to meet another girl on next day, but they can select my posts. One did on May 2015 .
I wish you to meet again Aurelia. She is off right now, but look at Globe tagesplan. About Aylice. Bu, Anabel and her disappeared since Summer.
I totally agree with your assessment. Some of these girls cannot hold down a normal job because of the way they live so flexibly. They need the program for work that is not routine and allows for their random lapseI think some of these fully intens to come to work but then something comes up which can be quite whimsical and the girl does not appear for work at all. Telling the customer of their non attendance just does not featire as important to do.I recognise your style of humour well. A touch of Pathos and Satire.
Thinking of cock in the ass for a long time, the girl probably thought she might just take a "sicky" (sick day), and pretend she does not do this job for a day, or she just got a better offer. It is a wonderful job to work when you feel like it. LOL
Anyway, why pick the flakiest girls, if you want reliability? Keep a lot of backup girls.
In another country, girl fails to call, to arrange the meeting time and place for the gig. Next day she sends message, sorry she had to go to a friend's birthday party. P4 P gigs are not as important as having fun, right? She obviously did not need the money too urgently. The only difference was that I never expected too much that girl would keep the appointment. Just get used to them being unreliable.
Thanks and I agree with you, this law for me is more targeting gang bang party without condom, or Aldi FKK in which sex without condoms is more or less a standard. I don t believe that in the FKK like Oase, Shark, World etc. The new law will change the things.If that's true then the new law could just ban AO. Some girls will prolly say no altogether or add some criteria in order to provide BBBJ. In the end it depends on the competition and just make the game more complicated.
Same than allowance to drive or not. At the moment, I can again, between LR and Aca, to Liestal. I will try to resist to wait Kate to be off, to go to Isabella. Before I waited Isabella to be off, to go to meet only Kate because she didn't like I go with Isabella, but even I don t judge, even it will be painful to resist, lies and public sex kill illusion.
So we will have to go out of Germany, YY NL for 50/30 mn and entry 50 before 2 pm, Austria and white Swiss chocolate, to enjoy so good, deep, long time BBBJ. CBJ have really no interest for me, I don t need to pay for time for sucking a condom.
I m just happy this law should protect poor girls health about risky AO sex and not anymore sleeping in rooms where they are fucked, like at Aca, LR, GT, Sharks sometimes.She wants you to give all yr money to her? LOL.
Wonder if they will increase the price as I suspect more people will flock to those places.
Seems like that Merkel won't get reelected bc of all the attacks by the refugees, but I suppose it won't affect the new law.
PussyLiccker
01-01-17, 18:56
Switz is already expensive as hell. Babylons is Aus is rediculous. I don't like the entry pricing in other clubs. 90-85, they add up.
Aus, there are already girls doing covered if running into bad luck. 25% covered experience for me. Too bad because De is the best punting destin. When it comes to pricing and standards. So many options that caters to different folks, and this Federal level ban is off-putting.
Forgot, there is Spain as well. You can find BBBJ there as well. 50% covered experience. Clubbing hrs are generally limited and pricing is least standardised. Aus is the next best options along side NL.
YY, the reception tells you 50 rate per half, but extras you take up with the girls. Not sure about what SS tells you, but 50 has been the going rate.
Perhaps, clubs may move their business across boarders if there is a big hit as a result of whatever outcome.
RLD and Laufhauses will have increased interest from me. I've seen some pretties at Pascha.
She wants you to give all yr money to her? LOL.
Wonder if they will increase the price as I suspect more people will flock to those places.
Seems like that Merkel won't get reelected bc of all the attacks by the refugees, but I suppose it won't affect the new law.I don't think YY will increase rates, because first clients are NL and Turkish and they don't like to pay expensive.
To PL, no problem for me for BBBJ with all my girls at Andiamo and Wellcum. At, even I was their first french, except for Natalia. Hu ex Paradise Sarrebrucken who had already french clients, but she was great.
Yes Switzerland is more expensive, but high GFE level with really pretty girls worth the rate for me. 50 is expensive for GND for me. Westside close to the German border is 63 CHF or €/30 mn.
About Kate, when I met her for first time at Globe on beginning of July, she asked me if I didn't want to stay for a second round, like for our first 2 hours room at Sharks. I explained her at Sharks it was 200 , but much more expensive at Globe. She said Ok, she never tried to upsell nor asked for tip. She said to be jealous about Isabella on October. When I said to her we are in contact with Isabella when she is off, she answered: You really want to make me jealous? Unfortunately, I get used to jealousy from my brothels GF, even I don't need to meet outside girls who are fucked by other guys. Usually, my regular girls just take money I give them, I think they understand better to get me weekly.
Even I would have been happy for her, she really retire, I will miss her.
Thanks and I agree with you, this law for me is more targeting gang bang party without condom, or Aldi FKK in which sex without condoms is more or less a standard. I don t believe that in the FKK like Oase, Shark, World etc. The new law will change the things.Maybe girls will not break a law for free.
Hessen Bub
01-01-17, 22:37
Maybe girls will not break a law for free.They will not get charged with anything. Just the men.
HB.
RubMeister100
01-02-17, 04:33
It's been five years since I was at Oase. I am coming to Frankfurt for a weekend later this month and was wondering if Oase is a good choice if I'm looking for younger, more natural women. Not so much into the phat asses and boob jobs.
Is the outdoor pool open in the winter?
Also, do they have any *real* massage services?
I'm going to check out Sharks for the first time but want to go up to Bad Homburg for a visit to Taunus Terme so thought Oase would be fun for old time's sake! LOL.
PussyLiccker
01-02-17, 06:54
I don't think YY will increase rates, because first clients are NL and Turkish and they don't like to pay expensive.
To PL, no problem for me for BBBJ with all my girls at Andiamo and Wellcum. At, even I was their first french, except for Natalia. Hu ex Paradise Sarrebrucken who had already french clients, but she was great.
.Well, covered I've run into at GT Vien. If you do visit, you may like Katelea if she is present. Highly recommended. She was one of the covered girls, but on repeat (was def worth going again as I was highly attracted to her and she provided good services), hat was off. She made the trip worthwhile.
YY rate hasn't changed due to nearby competition. YY and GT are 30 min apart being nearby competitions. So, they should have had comparable rates with Germany nearby keeps price in check.
When the BBBJ ban does get inforced with GT, it's possible girls at YY may try to upsell for that service given that in De that service is not available.
The clientel at YY are not the fly-in types, Dutch drive-ins. Avg age is younger, with good proportionate of Turks. So, you are probably right, avg clientel are probably not high spenders. I don't think nearby cross the boarder types are high spenders, at least not comparable to fly-ins. The clubs like GT or YY are drivable distance, and session rates in De are not all that significant. This is why upselling is not common there.
There has been girls from Hessen (Palace, Oase), and really they were the only ones that proposes 1 HR for better service. A complaint I run into from those types are the guys want only 30 min rooms. And those are the ones that really compaint about the clientel really. So, different clientel types.
Hessen Bub
01-02-17, 10:18
It's been five years since I was at Oase. I am coming to Frankfurt for a weekend later this month and was wondering if Oase is a good choice if I'm looking for younger, more natural women. Not so much into the phat asses and boob jobs.
Is the outdoor pool open in the winter?
Also, do they have any *real* massage services?
I'm going to check out Sharks for the first time but want to go up to Bad Homburg for a visit to Taunus Terme so thought Oase would be fun for old time's sake! LOL.You will find young natural girls without silicon. Outdoor pool is open but not heated. They do have massage, in former room 14 next to the upstairs showers now.
HB.
Greetings gentlemen, I am planning my first visit to Frankfurt (and FKK Clubs) in late May, and after seeing the experiences you all have shared, I narrowed my selection down to 3 clubs, with Oase being the prime choice along with World and Sharks. Would greatly appreciate some advice on transportation to these areas as I cannot find them on google maps. Also since I will live in hostels which may be some distance away from the clubs, I am concerned about the security situation for walking at night. I am by no means a big spender like most here so cabs may be a little costly, would rather walk a few more steps and have $ to fuck more.
The plan is to spend 4 days 3 Nights at Frankfurt, advice on the best days to visit where there is a nice line up without overcrowding of men will be helpful. Some negotiation tips from you guys on how to spot and avoid being ripped off or 'sharked' will be great too.
For those who have visited all 3, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the average quality of the girls?
Cheers,
TRH.
I have not read the proposed law myself but if as is stated here that BBBJ will be illegal in FKKs by July, 2017 then what will happen is that SPs will charge extra for that service, since the majority of punters require BBBJ then the majority of sessions at FKKs will no longer be 50 euro 1/2 hour. The result would be that the majority of girls would no longer want to do 50 euro 1/2 hour sessions even with CBJ leading to the end of the 50 euro 1/2 hour session as we know it.
I have not read the proposed law myself but if as is stated here that BBBJ will be illegal in FKKs by July, 2017 then what will happen is that SPs will charge extra for that service, since the majority of punters require BBBJ then the majority of sessions at FKKs will no longer be 50 euro 1/2 hour. The result would be that the majority of girls would no longer want to do 50 euro 1/2 hour sessions even with CBJ leading to the end of the 50 euro 1/2 hour session as we know it.And what about for guys like me for whom hour-long sessions are standard? They're still going to up-charge me is what! Whereas a BBBJ was commonly a part of the base price and you only had to pay an extra 50 euros for CIM, now to get a straight BBBJ the tutes are going to start charging everybody 50 euros extra for that! I will pay it too, but only so long as that includes CIM. I'm not going to pay 50 euros for a BBBJ and then turn around and pay another 50 euros on top of that for CIM! Now that would be just too much and just plain price gouging! I'll pay the extra 50 euros, but CIM must be included with that. If not, then I'll have to pass.
ExpatLover
01-02-17, 17:25
And what about for guys like me for whom hour-long sessions are standard? They're still going to up-charge me is what! Whereas a BBBJ was commonly a part of the base price and you only had to pay an extra 50 euros for CIM, now to get a straight BBBJ the tutes are going to start charging everybody 50 euros extra for that! I will pay it too, but only so long as that includes CIM. I'm not going to pay 50 euros for a BBBJ and then turn around and pay another 50 euros on top of that for CIM! Now that would be just too much and just plain price gouging! I'll pay the extra 50 euros, but CIM must be included with that. If not, then I'll have to pass.Sorry I don't understand your comment, even you have to pay a bit more, you will definitely always get in Germany the cheapest sex.
TankTank123
01-02-17, 18:31
... without silicon.
HB.You have finally succumbed to the Frenchman's erroneous spelling! :)
- can't be helped if you see the misspelling 1,000 times in a year, I guess.
And what about for guys like me for whom hour-long sessions are standard? They're still going to up-charge me is what! Whereas a BBBJ was commonly a part of the base price and you only had to pay an extra 50 euros for CIM, now to get a straight BBBJ the tutes are going to start charging everybody 50 euros extra for that! I will pay it too, but only so long as that includes CIM. I'm not going to pay 50 euros for a BBBJ and then turn around and pay another 50 euros on top of that for CIM! Now that would be just too much and just plain price gouging! I'll pay the extra 50 euros, but CIM must be included with that. If not, then I'll have to pass.I'm pretty certain that they're going to charge 50 euro extra for standard half hour sessions with BBBJ. However, I really can't predict what they'd do with respect to standard hour-long sessions with BBBJ. It'd be good to hear views of other punters on this. I think 50 euros on top of the existing 50 for CIM should be resisted vigorously if tried.
Hessen Bub
01-02-17, 19:35
You have finally succumbed to the Frenchman's erroneous spelling! :)
- can't be helped if you see the misspelling 1,000 times in a year, I guess.Geman: Silikon. English: Silicone. French: Silicone. Spanish: Silicona. Romanian: Silicon.
Sorry to fall into Romanian suddenly mid-phrase. ;)
Silly cones is what they are called, right? :D
HB.
Greetings gentlemen, I am planning my first visit to Frankfurt (and FKK Clubs) in late May, and after seeing the experiences you all have shared, I narrowed my selection down to 3 clubs, with Oase being the prime choice along with World and Sharks. Would greatly appreciate some advice on transportation to these areas as I cannot find them on google maps. Also since I will live in hostels which may be some distance away from the clubs, I am concerned about the security situation for walking at night. I am by no means a big spender like most here so cabs may be a little costly, would rather walk a few more steps and have $ to fuck more.
The plan is to spend 4 days 3 Nights at Frankfurt, advice on the best days to visit where there is a nice line up without overcrowding of men will be helpful. Some negotiation tips from you guys on how to spot and avoid being ripped off or 'sharked' will be great too.
For those who have visited all 3, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the average quality of the girls?
Cheers,
TRH.Sharks in Darmstadt, Oase and World are in safe places. You can walk to the train station. Walking is good for heart, to be strong with girls. For World, better to visit on Friday or Saturday. Hotel Contel is very close to Sharks.
Well, covered I've run into at GT Vien. If you do visit, you may like Katelea if she is present. Highly recommended. She was one of the covered girls, but on repeat (was def worth going again as I was highly attracted to her and she provided good services), hat was off. She made the trip worthwhile.
YY rate hasn't changed due to nearby competition. YY and GT are 30 min apart being nearby competitions. So, they should have had comparable rates with Germany nearby keeps price in check.
When the BBBJ ban does get inforced with GT, it's possible girls at YY may try to upsell for that service given that in De that service is not available.
The clientel at YY are not the fly-in types, Dutch drive-ins. Avg age is younger, with good proportionate of Turks. So, you are probably right, avg clientel are probably not high spenders. I don't think nearby cross the boarder types are high spenders, at least not comparable to fly-ins. The clubs like GT or YY are drivable distance, and session rates in De are not all that significant. This is why upselling is not common there.
There has been girls from Hessen (Palace, Oase), and really they were the only ones that proposes 1 HR for better service. A complaint I run into from those types are the guys want only 30 min rooms. And those are the ones that really compaint about the clientel really. So, different clientel types.About YY, 6 sens is also 50/30 mn, with entry 40 before 2 pm. YY will become attractive land for free BBBJ. No upselling for me at YY, 100/ h.
Wien is an exceptional cultural town, like Prague, or Budapest or Berlin, but not sure touristic places are the best for paid sex quality. I don't think tourists improve WGs sexual level, they are just easy money for WGs. Like Oase in 2015, Sharks became a touristic brothel in 2016. I don't want to pay for CBJ, same like baby kisses, no interest for me.
I'm pretty certain that they're going to charge 50 euro extra for standard half hour sessions with BBBJ. However, I really can't predict what they'd do with respect to standard hour-long sessions with BBBJ. It'd be good to hear views of other punters on this. I think 50 euros on top of the existing 50 for CIM should be resisted vigorously if tried.Nah Turgid,
That's pure speculation. Nobody can tell for sure. Even after 1 July nobody will know for sure, as BBBJ will become an underground service that nobody will talk about openly on a forum. BBBJ will no longer be a standard service, neither will it be "standard extra" like CIM or Anal. So, some girls will no longer provide BBBJ, which we will have to respect of course. Some girls will try charging extra (50- 100 E maybe), some will do it for free (at least in longer sessions), and some, like in many, many places in Europe, will ask for a small tip (10- 20 E). YMMV. Now, that was MY speculation.
Way, way back in my first weeks of FKK explorations I used to insist on covered BJ to protect myself. All the girls were happy to do it (they said). No problem. Then one day one of the Palace girls I repeated with gave an exceptional good CBJ. She suddenly stopped and said: "Shark16 sweetie, can I take off the raincoat? It's not good for my gum, you know, to blow on rubber for a long time. The rubber can cause bleeding. It is SO much better for my gum to lick on the skin of your schwanz". And without waiting for my answer she threw away the raincoat and started a sensational BJ. She was all over my little one. To this day it must have been one of the better BJs in my life. I converted to BBBJ on the spot. It was no turning back. The girl was happy. And she made me REALLY happy.
Yeah, I later learned that on a local forum two years earlier she was voted Miss BJ Queen at the now sunken Atlantis. Some of you will even know who I am talking about.* :)
*Hint: Little Miss A from Sibiria ...
Hessen Bub
01-02-17, 21:15
Yeah, I later learned that on a local forum two years earlier she was voted Miss BJ Queen at the now sunken Atlantis. Some of you will even know who I am talking about.* :)
*Hint: Little Miss A from Sibiria ...Areömerforum or Hurenforen. To? You can still visit her at Palace and get another BJ from her. Uncovered if you make it before July.
HB.
I'm pretty certain that they're going to charge 50 euro extra for standard half hour sessions with BBBJ. However, I really can't predict what they'd do with respect to standard hour-long sessions with BBBJ. It'd be good to hear views of other punters on this. I think 50 euros on top of the existing 50 for CIM should be resisted vigorously if tried.The problem is not the money in this case. It is the legality. So a girl can fuck you over if she decides to. Unless you or the club find ways to hinder the girl from fucking you over at her own will (ofcourse with her agreeing to loose that power also). If she is hinderred in any way, then it is back to square one and prices wouldn't need to change because of it. If not, then any new girl you don't already know would be a gamble (even girls you think you know would be gambles also).
The thing is, the atmosphere could either change for the worse if any guy gets fined or upsold due to this new law, or it could stay the same if unchecked. If atmosphere changes, high spending fly in customers would soon dwindle in numbers. This would most likely affect hessen clubs and artemis the most.
I'm pretty certain that they're going to charge 50 euro extra for standard half hour sessions with BBBJ. However, I really can't predict what they'd do with respect to standard hour-long sessions with BBBJ. It'd be good to hear views of other punters on this. I think 50 euros on top of the existing 50 for CIM should be resisted vigorously if tried.Did I read "Speculation". Why not interview house wives on the street in Germany to see what they think might happen? LOL Just kidding.
However, really, who cares what various guys, sensible or not, think might happen. Even when it happens there will be the confusion of inconsistency by Clubs and girls.
Why not, as HB says, just wait and see. Then you can ask guys on the Forum, what actually did happen. Slightly more useful. LOL.
The girls reading these posts, will no doubt find it amusing. However lets not put too many silly ideas into their heads.
I am very relaxed and not losing sleep over the new law coming into reality.
Greetings gentlemen, I am planning my first visit to Frankfurt (and FKK Clubs) in late May, and after seeing the experiences you all have shared, I narrowed my selection down to 3 clubs, with Oase being the prime choice along with World and Sharks. Would greatly appreciate some advice on transportation to these areas as I cannot find them on google maps. Also since I will live in hostels which may be some distance away from the clubs, I am concerned about the security situation for walking at night. I am by no means a big spender like most here so cabs may be a little costly, would rather walk a few more steps and have $ to fuck more.
The plan is to spend 4 days 3 Nights at Frankfurt, advice on the best days to visit where there is a nice line up without overcrowding of men will be helpful. Some negotiation tips from you guys on how to spot and avoid being ripped off or 'sharked' will be great too.
For those who have visited all 3, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the average quality of the girls?
Cheers,
TRH.I see your topic has not excited anyone much, as these questions have probably all been answered before.
No one can guarantee you will like the line up. World may be the best place for newbies if you like the line up.
On other hand most difficult to get to with no hire car. Can stay at "Landgasthof und Hotel Zum gruenen Baum" in Pohlheim, walking distance to FKK World.
Can be found on Google Maps "FKK World, Grueninger Weg, Pohlheim, Germany".
I prefer Oase, purely due to my favorite girls, but not recommended to guys wanting only 30 min sessions.
It can also be found on Google Maps. Search for FKK-Oase.
FKK Club Sharks also no problem on Google maps. Likely to have a lot more customers. Overcrowded? I don't know.
Sharks is easy walk from Darmstadt Nord Railway station. Contel Hotel is very close.
I use public transport combined with taxis and sometimes take a 3 km walk instead of taxi (probably not in winter).
I recommend RMV App or website for public transport info like train times.
All 3 clubs have girls with great figures and some not so great. In my personal view Oase has more pretty faces, but my taste is not always typical. We can't tell what type of girls you like. You did not detail. Friday and Saturday are good days in any club. Sunday I prefer Oase. Thursday I prefer Sharks.
I see your topic has not excited anyone much, as these questions have probably all been answered before.
No one can guarantee you will like the line up. World may be the best place for newbies if you like the line up.
On other hand most difficult to get to with no hire car. Can stay at "Landgasthof und Hotel Zum gruenen Baum" in Pohlheim, walking distance to FKK World.
Can be found on Google Maps "FKK World, Grueninger Weg, Pohlheim, Germany".
I prefer Oase, purely due to my favorite girls, but not recommended to guys wanting only 30 min sessions.
It can also be found on Google Maps. Search for FKK-Oase.
FKK Club Sharks also no problem on Google maps. Likely to have a lot more customers. Overcrowded? I don't know..Thank you for your reply, your input is very helpful, especially the hotel recommendation for World. Personally redheads is a huge plus though they are pretty rare and good looking ones are perhaps even rarer, as for my preference of body proportions is pretty vanilla, girls with natural boobs (B and above) and of slim / athletic build with curves at the right places and not too skinny, I am leaning towards Oase for my first stop, most likely 100 E sessions, any recommendations on who you regard as the better performing girls?
Did I read "Speculation". Why not interview house wives on the street in Germany to see what they think might happen? LOL Just kidding.
However, really, who cares what various guys, sensible or not, think might happen. Even when it happens there will be the confusion of inconsistency by Clubs and girls.
Why not, as HB says, just wait and see. Then you can ask guys on the Forum, what actually did happen. Slightly more useful. LOL.
The girls reading these posts, will no doubt find it amusing. However lets not put too many silly ideas into their heads.
I am very relaxed and not losing sleep over the new law coming into reality.LOL. Everything written on the topic at this time, including the wait and see approach, is speculation. The law could be repealed before July or the world could come to an end. It would be interesting to hear more on Piston's statement on fining of errant punters, I can't appreciate any circumstance in which that could happen.
Thank you for your reply, your input is very helpful, especially the hotel recommendation for World. Personally redheads is a huge plus though they are pretty rare and good looking ones are perhaps even rarer, as for my preference of body proportions is pretty vanilla, girls with natural boobs (B and above) and of slim / athletic build with curves at the right places and not too skinny, I am leaning towards Oase for my first stop, most likely 100 E sessions, any recommendations on who you regard as the better performing girls?Girls with bigger natural tits that I have done and would repeat for 100 E are: Carla short with dark / black hair, Crina brunette, and Elizabeth (Hungary). Michaela blonde maybe has B cups but might be considered skinny.
Antonio Fr
01-03-17, 22:38
Thanks for your report, yes she is really a sweet girl and you forget to mention that she is also quite tight which was a surprise for me knowing that she is not skinny at all.I didn't no that on this forum I have to write about food, ambiance and not about girls or one girl. The food is good, the pizza is free now and the sauna has one man that those everything for clients comfort, towers, perfume, etc. I like this club, I will go back soon. Is better then Sharks. P.S. Yes, Daria has a good and small pussy, hard ass and big nice boobs.
ThienHoangb4
01-04-17, 05:07
I have been browsing the forum and searching google map but it seems like I cannot find a station within walking distance to Oase. Does anyone know?
Thanks in advance.
I didn't no that on this forum I have to write about food, ambiance and not about girls or one girl. The food is good, the pizza is free now and the sauna has one man that those everything for clients comfort, towers, perfume, etc. I like this club, I will go back soon. Is better then Sharks. P.S. Yes, Daria has a good and small pussy, hard ass and big nice boobs.You don't have to, but it just makes it seem like you know enough about the club to have actually been telling us a real attendance experience, if you mention multiple girls and some other aspects. Many newbies write far too much about things not related to the actual girls, like how they got to the club and why and travel schedules. That is indeed not necessary. Even experienced posters put in irrelevant stuff that is not necessary, and sometimes very repetitively.
So already we now may think you quite possibly were actually there and not posting a fake report. Just understand that fake reports can be posted by someone with no previous history of posts, so it is wise to make your post sound very realistic and not look like a fake one.
Some of the girls are quite irate and find it quite rude that we discuss the girl performance level and give her a thumbs up or thumbs down, or somewhere in between. However that is what the forum is for.
RubMeister100
01-04-17, 13:12
You will find young natural girls without silicon. Outdoor pool is open but not heated. They do have massage, in former room 14 next to the upstairs showers now.
HB.Many thanks HB!
I will hit Sharks for Friday and then probably drive up to Oase for Saturday. Have a quickie then head over to Taunus Terme for a few hours, and early dinner in Bad Homburg and then back to Oase for the rest of the day and evening.
Thanks again!
Outdoor pool is open but not heated.
HB.Do they drain their pool in the winter? Has it ever frozen?
I have been browsing the forum and searching google map but it seems like I cannot find a station within walking distance to Oase. Does anyone know?
Thanks in advance.Walking from Friedrichsdolf station to Oase is about 40-50 min walk. I always do that with back road when there is sun shine. You need Google map for the first time.
You can also walk the same way as Taxi goes, but it is longer not really in countryside.
I am considering coming over but my only available date is the Thursday-Friday before orthodox easter. Am I wasting my time?
Anyone has experience with these dates?
I have been browsing the forum and searching google map but it seems like I cannot find a station within walking distance to Oase. Does anyone know?
Thanks in advance.Seulberg rail station is about 3 km from Oase across the farmlands (not straight as crow flies) which have paths, but I don't really recommend it in winter or bad weather. Could be muddy. I have walked it several times in good weather.
You probably need a smartphone with Google Maps so you can see where you are going.
Can also walk to Oase from Burgholzhausen v.d.H. Bahnhof about 2. 2 km. Best option but wastes more time.
LOL. Everything written on the topic at this time, including the wait and see approach, is speculation. "Wait and see" does not predict anything, it does not even ask "What if? That is clearly not speculation.
I am considering coming over but my only available date is the Thursday-Friday before orthodox easter. Am I wasting my time?
Anyone has experience with these dates?Many Romanian girls return home for Orthodox Easter.
TankTank123
01-05-17, 08:03
Seulberg rail station is about 3 km from Oase across the farmlands (not straight as crow flies) which have paths, but I don't really recommend it in winter or bad weather. Could be muddy. I have walked it several times in good weather.Total of about 200 m of dirt track before and after the bridge crossing the stream. Tarmac roads and bicycle tracks for the rest of the 3 km.
Hessen Bub
01-05-17, 08:29
Do they drain their pool in the winter? Has it ever frozen?They don't. And no.
HB.
EruditeGent
01-05-17, 14:21
I am planning a multi-day trip to Germany in March and plan on staying in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. I have never been to an FKK and that's the main purpose of this trip. From what I am reading in the posts, a 1 hour 100 E session is the norm at Oase. Is that just the minimum of the club or an upsell. I'd prefer 30 min.
Thanks!
"Wait and see" does not predict anything, it does not even ask "What if? That is clearly not speculation.Dictionary.com - "Speculation": "The contemplation or consideration of some subject...a conclusion or opinion reached by such contemplation. ".
YourBoyRoc
01-05-17, 15:38
I will be staying for three days in Frankfurt and based on the reviews I plan on visiting FKK Oase, palace Dietzenbach and Partytreff. This will be my first time in Germany and my first FKK experience. BTW, I'm a black man, Can anyone tell me if I will have issues getting in and will the women be with me. I don't know if many black tourists have been there.
Thanks in advance.
I am planning a multi-day trip to Germany in March and plan on staying in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf. I have never been to an FKK and that's the main purpose of this trip. From what I am reading in the posts, a 1 hour 100 E session is the norm at Oase. Is that just the minimum of the club or an upsell. I'd prefer 30 min.
Thanks!THe norm used to be Euro 50 for 30 minutes, and you still can find girl who offer decent service for this price in Oase, but pity it is becoming less and less. Most girls try to go for Eeuro 100 session, or they will not kiss / DFK, etc.
In Dusseldorf area this is less of an issue (you can even find clubs that have 30 or 40 euro per 30 minutes as standard, including DFK, BBBJ, and sometimes even CIM / CIF and AO! Looks of the girls somewhat lesser though.
Looks of Oase girls most of time very good, and if you don't mind to speak with 10 girls before you find one that is willing to do a decent job for Euro 50, go for it.
Better go to Sakura under Stuttgart, which is run by female management and that reflects itself in the very decent attitude and service offering of the (beautiful) girls there
Can also walk to Oase from Burgholzhausen v.d.H. Bahnhof about 2. 2 km. Best option but wastes more time.Or; take Bus 53 and the 1,7 km walk from Königsteiner Strasse (the bus also passes Hotel Mercure).
Map: http://bus-bahn-fahrplan.de/fahrplan-friedrichsdorf/1-104315/bus-53-friedrichsdorf-bahnhof-saalburgstr-dillinger-strasse.
Time Schedule: http://www.friedrichsdorf.de/down/loads/aushang_53.pdf (nothing on Sundays).
Seriously, any firsttimer to Oase without rental car should stick to S5 to Friedrichsdorf (or Bad Hamburg) and the 10 E (15 E) taxi ride from there. It will save you a lot of time and trouble. Save any walking to another time in broad daylight and nice weather with plenty of time and Google Maps on a smartphone.
I will be staying for three days in Frankfurt and based on the reviews I plan on visiting FKK Oase, palace Dietzenbach and Partytreff. This will be my first time in Germany and my first FKK experience. BTW, I'm a black man, Can anyone tell me if I will have issues getting in and will the women be with me. I don't know if many black tourists have been there.
Thanks in advance.No problem getting in, I meet black men in the clubs all the time. I am sure that their are girls who avoids black guys but I don't know for sure. Just move along to the next girl if that is the case. See black guys going to rooms with all type of girls. You should consider Sharks for your first FKK experience in my opinion.
Hessen Bub
01-05-17, 23:17
Oase has seen men and girls in all colors, from bright milk white to dark chocolate black. No issues there.
HB.
YourBoyRoc
01-06-17, 05:22
Oase has seen men and girls in all colors, from bright milk white to dark chocolate black. No issues there.
HB.Thanks for the info. My hotel is near Frankfurt central station in the RLD district. I've done a lot of research here on this forum, great information! Most punters seem to pass on the RLD. They say too much up selling and girls not doing what they promised in sessions. Specifically, the German women. I would love your opinion on the euro centers in the RLD.
Thanks!
Marc.
YourBoyRoc
01-06-17, 05:31
No problem getting in, I meet black men in the clubs all the time. I am sure that their are girls who avoids black guys but I don't know for sure. Just move along to the next girl if that is the case. See black guys going to rooms with all type of girls. You should consider Sharks for your first FKK experience in my opinion.Thanks for the info. I actually decided to go to Oase based on the reports in this forum. Every one says they have the best looking and the most girls. Do you think Sharks will be a better choice? If so, why?
Thanks,
Marc.
I will be staying for three days in Frankfurt and based on the reviews I plan on visiting FKK Oase, palace Dietzenbach and Partytreff. This will be my first time in Germany and my first FKK experience. BTW, I'm a black man, Can anyone tell me if I will have issues getting in and will the women be with me. I don't know if many black tourists have been there.
Thanks in advance.You should be welcome at Oase, Mainhattan, Palace, World, Sharks. Not so sure for AO Dietzenbach, being black. Just don't lose your time to go to GT Bruggen and LR.
Enjoy your time.
ExpatLover
01-06-17, 14:56
THe norm used to be Euro 50 for 30 minutes, and you still can find girl who offer decent service for this price in Oase, but pity it is becoming less and less. Most girls try to go for Eeuro 100 session, or they will not kiss / DFK, etc.
In Dusseldorf area this is less of an issue (you can even find clubs that have 30 or 40 euro per 30 minutes as standard, including DFK, BBBJ, and sometimes even CIM / CIF and AO! Looks of the girls somewhat lesser though.
Looks of Oase girls most of time very good, and if you don't mind to speak with 10 girls before you find one that is willing to do a decent job for Euro 50, go for it.
Better go to Sakura under Stuttgart, which is run by female management and that reflects itself in the very decent attitude and service offering of the (beautiful) girls thereI am a regular of both Sakura and Oase, it is true that everything in Sakura is better except 1 thing it is the quality of the LU, Oase is far better.
ExpatLover
01-06-17, 16:37
Thanks for the info. My hotel is near Frankfurt central station in the RLD district. I've done a lot of research here on this forum, great information! Most punters seem to pass on the RLD. They say too much up selling and girls not doing what they promised in sessions. Specifically, the German women. I would love your opinion on the euro centers in the RLD.
Thanks!
Marc.If you want to be cheated go there, if not make a big turn around not interest to go there if you come from far and want to be safe and enjoy good sex without any troubles.
YourBoyRoc
01-06-17, 17:12
You should be welcome at Oase, Mainhattan, Palace, World, Sharks. Not so sure for AO Dietzenbach, being black. Just don't lose your time to go to GT Bruggen and LR.
Enjoy your time.Thanks for the info! That's too bad the women look awesome at GT Bruggen. Which FKK do you recommend I prefer young slim women and athletic built women like Latinas. I hear that Oase isn't the best FKK for 30 min sessions, which is what I prefer, it's the only reason why I'm considering Dietzenbach and Partytreff Not interested in AO but, $30 for 30 minutes including CIM and anal sounds perfect!
Would love to hear some opinions on Frankfurt Main RLD. Word is, that the girls don't give the service they promise and constantly up sell.
Can anyone confirm if Party Treff or Diezenbach has one of those rules like GT Bruggen not allowing black men in? Have anyone seen black men in either. Don't want to waste money or time traveling.
YourBoyRoc
01-06-17, 17:23
THe norm used to be Euro 50 for 30 minutes, and you still can find girl who offer decent service for this price in Oase, but pity it is becoming less and less. Most girls try to go for Eeuro 100 session, or they will not kiss / DFK, etc.
In Dusseldorf area this is less of an issue (you can even find clubs that have 30 or 40 euro per 30 minutes as standard, including DFK, BBBJ, and sometimes even CIM / CIF and AO! Looks of the girls somewhat lesser though.
Looks of Oase girls most of time very good, and if you don't mind to speak with 10 girls before you find one that is willing to do a decent job for Euro 50, go for it.
Better go to Sakura under Stuttgart, which is run by female management and that reflects itself in the very decent attitude and service offering of the (beautiful) girls thereI prefer 30 min sessions because I can experience more women vs 1 HR sessions. I'm just looking for S&F BBBJ and DFK 30 min sessions. I rather go to Oase because I hear the have the best line or would Sharks be better for me.
Thanks for the info. I actually decided to go to Oase based on the reports in this forum. Every one says they have the best looking and the most girls. Do you think Sharks will be a better choice? If so, why?
Thanks,
Marc.My opinion and experience of course. I have always found a better line-up at Sharks but the most important thing is that the overall service from the girls is better. I have my favourites now but even if I try a new girl I don't have much to complain about. At Oase I had girls to complain about and even had to take one to the reception.
YourBoyRoc
01-06-17, 21:57
If you want to be cheated go there, if not make a big turn around not interest to go there if you come from far and want to be safe and enjoy good sex without any troubles.OK I'll stick to the FKK. I will be sure to share my report.
Thanks.
My first FKK was in Sharks, it was warehouse like, that was a 1 day layover and I actually had a great time, but I did not like the warehouse like environment, makes you feel not cozy. I came back the second time since I liked it the first and this time I went to Oase, then palace. Oase became my favorite as the place looked more cozy because its like you are in a house or mansion, and their decor is good. I liked palace also but they have no outdoors so its kinda boring. In all these 3 places I had no upsells, I had one in palace who I finished in less than 30 minutes, and the girl wants to leave right after, LOL. Thats the only upsell I had in palace. FYI she is still there, but she forgotten about me. I liked Adina in palace, and also carla who used to be in Oase. I also had a bad session with a girl in Oase, where the girl was putting their finger in between her pussy and my dick, like to prevent the condom from slipping in. She is also still there. I had such a great time with Alice, who I have never seen again when I visited again a year after. Wonder where she went. I liked the food in Palace and Sharks. But all of these are YMMV and you have to go check it out all of them to see which you like most. I heard they say sharks is better, that was why I visited it on my first, but since then I have always visited mostly Oase. Don't let one bad session make you not want to visit the place again, if you have a bad session just don't go with her again, and make sure you talk about the price and what is included before going to the room. I had many 30 minutes sessions in all three places with BBBJ DFK kissing etc. Have fun, and tell us your experience.
I prefer 30 min sessions because I can experience more women vs 1 HR sessions. I'm just looking for S&F BBBJ and DFK 30 min sessions. I rather go to Oase because I hear the have the best line or would Sharks be better for me.
Sharks has without a doubt more girls than Oase. But if you only look at the top 10 in both clubs, then it is more just the luck of the draw of the night. Last year I found the average top 10 in Oase to have a prettier face than the average top 10 at Sharks. (Personal opinnions) But partly because Sharks girls work less days in average and / or take more vacations. It is hard to advice on anything with club is the best of the 2. Both are good and should be checked out. The recent small changes at Oase made it catch up with Sharks again on several fronts also... (better food, cheaper entry and girls allowed in some wellness places like sauna, and maybe jacuuzi also?). Now Sharks is just still ahead on the steamroom. Which is not 100% functional I believe. The lights needs fixing...
I will be staying for three days in Frankfurt and based on the reviews I plan on visiting FKK Oase, palace Dietzenbach and Partytreff. This will be my first time in Germany and my first FKK experience. BTW, I'm a black man, Can anyone tell me if I will have issues getting in and will the women be with me. I don't know if many black tourists have been there.
Thanks in advance.I'm black and I was there about half a year ago. No problems to speak of and I really want to go back!
I had such a great time with Alice, who I have never seen again when I visited again a year after. Wonder where she went. There are too many Alices. You need to be more specific if you want an answer to this. Like origin, detailed description, Tats, Piercings, etc.
Sharks has without a doubt more girls than Oase. But if you only look at the top 10 in both clubs, then it is more just the luck of the draw of the night. Last year I found the average top 10 in Oase to have a prettier face than the average top 10 at Sharks. (Personal opinnions) But partly because Sharks girls work less days in average and / or take more vacations.It is probably true that girls who want to work sporadically when ever they feel like it, any hours they feel like, are more likely to be at Sharks, although Oase definitely has some part time girls, e. G. May.
It is easier to express, by saying that Oase probably has a higher percentage of girls with pretty faces. For stunning girls, my count never gets to 10, at either club, but that is being quite picky. Sharks seems to have fewer really pretty girls on most days I tried, despite the larger total number of girls.
Special looks girls at Sharks tend to be Nastia and Janine (with no guarantees of a great GFE), and then drops away quickly. I am really happy with my Oase regular girls for both looks and GFE service combination.
YourBoyRoc
01-07-17, 03:27
My first FKK was in Sharks, it was warehouse like, that was a 1 day layover and I actually had a great time, but I did not like the warehouse like environment, makes you feel not cozy. I came back the second time since I liked it the first and this time I went to Oase, then palace. Oase became my favorite as the place looked more cozy because its like you are in a house or mansion, and their decor is good. I liked palace also but they have no outdoors so its kinda boring. In all these 3 places I had no upsells, I had one in palace who I finished in less than 30 minutes, and the girl wants to leave right after, LOL. Thats the only upsell I had in palace. FYI she is still there, but she forgotten about me. I liked Adina in palace, and also carla who used to be in Oase. I also had a bad session with a girl in Oase, where the girl was putting their finger in between her pussy and my dick, like to prevent the condom from slipping in. She is also still there. I had such a great time with Alice, who I have never seen again when I visited again a year after. Wonder where she went. I liked the food in Palace and Sharks. But all of these are YMMV and you have to go check it out all of them to see which you like most. I heard they say sharks is better, that was why I visited it on my first, but since then I have always visited mostly Oase. Don't let one bad session make you not want to visit the place again, if you have a bad session just don't go with her again, and make sure you talk about the price and what is included before going to the room. I had many 30 minutes sessions in all three places with BBBJ DFK kissing etc. Have fun, and tell us your experience.Thanks for the great info. It's really hard to decide but, I'll try to make it to both. Look out for my report. I'm looking forward to sharing my experience.
Given your preference for May, I am guessing you haven't met Marlyn at Sharks seeing you left her out. I hardly ever see 10 stunners in any club any night either. Maybe 1 out of 10 visits I reach that number at oase, sharks, artemis and oceans (the 4 clubs I see as having the most variety). Maybe the all too expensive Globe, or Wellcum/GT in austria reach 10 stunners in a night. But you allways have ssome close who wraps up the top 10. Doesnt mean you have to fuck #8, #9 or #10...
There are too many Alices. You need to be more specific if you want an answer to this. Like origin, detailed description, Tats, Piercings, etc.She may already quit, and is no longer doing it, It is also listed in your list of attendance http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1791590&highlight=alice#post1791590 #19267.
Alice (Rom), voluptuous C implants, brown hair over shoulders. Seen in May 2015. I already gave up so I thought no point in describing her, LOL. I may have her fb though.
Alice with chestnut long hair, silicon, teeth braces, was at Oase on 12 November. Smiling and friendly, but no need to repeat for me, lack of sensuality and silicon don't help.
Thanks for the info! That's too bad the women look awesome at GT Bruggen. Which FKK do you recommend I prefer young slim women and athletic built women like Latinas. I hear that Oase isn't the best FKK for 30 min sessions, which is what I prefer, it's the only reason why I'm considering Dietzenbach and Partytreff Not interested in AO but, $30 for 30 minutes including CIM and anal sounds perfect!
Would love to hear some opinions on Frankfurt Main RLD. Word is, that the girls don't give the service they promise and constantly up sell.
Can anyone confirm if Party Treff or Diezenbach has one of those rules like GT Bruggen not allowing black men in? Have anyone seen black men in either. Don't want to waste money or time traveling.Only visited Hamburg RLD, too dirty rooms for me. Amira World came from Paradise there, with amazing sexual level when she arrived at World on beginning of June.
I'm not at all a Latina specialist, I prefer white skin with baby smell and taste, but can be attracted by beautiful brunettes.
Not sure, if you are black, you will be welcome at Dietzenbach about what I read.
For 30 mn rooms with social time before, I advice World North Frankfurt, because girls are not busy there, so they will be free, fresh and happy to get business. Beautiful eyes Ariana is a great GFE. Entry is 47 before 1 pm. Except blond hair to ass, Raďssa, other prettiest girls arrive about 5 pm. World is a night FKK until 4 or 5 am. Inside swimming pool, jacuzzi, sauna. Free foods and soft drinks and beer.
May be more difficult to get 50 € rooms without upselling at Oase or Mainhattan or with Sharks new girls, but I m not a specialist, I prefer to take my time to enjoy. I stay 30 mn only when I don't enjoy.
YourBoyRoc
01-07-17, 18:15
Only visited Hamburg RLD, too dirty rooms for me. Amira World came from Paradise there, with amazing sexual level when she arrived at World on beginning of June.
I'm not at all a Latina specialist, I prefer white skin with baby smell and taste, but can be attracted by beautiful brunettes.
Not sure, if you are black, you will be welcome at Dietzenbach about what I read.
For 30 mn rooms with social time before, I advice World North Frankfurt, because girls are not busy there, so they will be free, fresh and happy to get business. Beautiful eyes Ariana is a great GFE. Entry is 47 before 1 pm. Except blond hair to ass, Rassa, other prettiest girls arrive about 5 pm. World is a night FKK until 4 or 5 am. Inside swimming pool, jacuzzi, sauna. Free foods and soft drinks and beer.
May be more difficult to get 50 rooms without upselling at Oase or Mainhattan or with Sharks new girls, but I m not a specialist, I prefer to take my time to enjoy. I stay 30 mn only when I don't enjoy.Thanks for the info. I can't seem to decide. I'm leaning towards Oase. I'll also consider World.
ExpatLover
01-07-17, 23:17
Thanks for the info. I can't seem to decide. I'm leaning towards Oase. I'll also consider World.Visiting a FKK a little bit like going fishing you never really know in advance what will happen due to the simple fact that you will only discover the LU hours after hours except you whatsapp in advance some girls that you know well to fix appointments. The difference between Oase or World is minimal and some days the one is better some days the other. Personally in December the LU of Oase was the best for many years but this is really my feeling. Shark has the biggest LU with the most diversity, just because the girls can earn a lot there but the competition is also hard. If you visit Oase, World, Shark and Manhattan you can do nothing wrong, but I believe that none of us can tell you in advance that those day at that time the available LU (don t forget that some girls can be booked in advance or are in the rooms for many hours) in this FKK will be this.
She may already quit, and is no longer doing it, It is also listed in your list of attendance http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1096-FKK-Oase-Burgholzhausen&p=1791590&highlight=alice#post1791590 #19267.
Alice (Rom), voluptuous C implants, brown hair over shoulders. Seen in May 2015. I already gave up so I thought no point in describing her, LOL. I may have her fb though.Okay, sounds like the well known Alice with brown hair and C implants, most likely. If so was listed back in July if I got it right (and I possibly did not do any line up lists since then). The other Alice I remember with implants was older blonde and shorter hair.
I am not sure that Sirioja's Alice would be same girl that I think of, since chesnut hair and braces seems probably not right.
I don't do any Facebook stuff. Steer well clear of that. LOL
Alice with chestnut long hair, silicon, teeth braces, was at Oase on 12 November. Smiling and friendly, but no need to repeat for me, lack of sensuality and silicon don't help.This Alice is at Oase since beginning of 2015. When I had my 1 hour room with her, she had well done silicon, but no teeth braces like on last November.
Chestnut hair should be the correct hair color, but her teeth are already perfect and don't need braces LOL. But I need to see her to see if she is the one I'm describing.
I was in Oase may of 2016 did not see her, maybe she is in sharks, just like Carla who went to palace. Oh well, there are others to see. Thank you though for helping.
Alice with chestnut long hair, silicon, teeth braces, was at Oase on 12 November. Smiling and friendly, but no need to repeat for me, lack of sensuality and silicon don't help.
Visiting a FKK a little bit like going fishing you never really know in advance what will happen due to the simple fact that you will only discover the LU hours after hours except you whatsapp in advance some girls that you know well to fix appointments. The difference between Oase or World is minimal and some days the one is better some days the other. Personally in December the LU of Oase was the best for many years but this is really my feeling. Shark has the biggest LU with the most diversity, just because the girls can earn a lot there but the competition is also hard. If you visit Oase, World, Shark and Manhattan you can do nothing wrong, but I believe that none of us can tell you in advance that those day at that time the available LU (don t forget that some girls can be booked in advance or are in the rooms for many hours) in this FKK will be this.Best time to go FKK-ing is 11/15-12/15. The worst is between the holidays until mid-Jan.
Oase see. 2006 had more diversity than Sharks 2016. These days, "diversity" means Romanian and Bulgarian: the. But. There's this TH / RO gal at Sharks who is on my to do list. Hope she's around on my next visit.
Chestnut hair should be the correct hair color, but her teeth are already perfect and don't need braces LOL. But I need to see her to see if she is the one I'm describing.
I was in Oase may of 2016 did not see her, maybe she is in sharks, just like Carla who went to palace. Oh well, there are others to see. Thank you though for helping.I also didn't understand why she get teeth braces now, because no problem for me for her teeth before. Not very beautiful skin.
Thanks for the info. I can't seem to decide. I'm leaning towards Oase. I'll also consider World.I would just like to point out that you're posting in the Oase thread, only because most of the replies here recommend it over Sharks doesn't mean it is the best choice. Doesn't strike me as an objective, unbiased crowd.
Discovered this whole FKK shebang while passing through Frankfurt 2 months ago so for what my newbie opinion's worth, I recommend Sharks. Not that there aren't absolute cuties in Oase, but over a month I went to Oase once, Sharks 4 times.
YourBoyRoc
01-08-17, 13:48
Sharks has without a doubt more girls than Oase. But if you only look at the top 10 in both clubs, then it is more just the luck of the draw of the night. Last year I found the average top 10 in Oase to have a prettier face than the average top 10 at Sharks. (Personal opinnions) But partly because Sharks girls work less days in average and / or take more vacations. It is hard to advice on anything with club is the best of the 2. Both are good and should be checked out. The recent small changes at Oase made it catch up with Sharks again on several fronts also... (better food, cheaper entry and girls allowed in some wellness places like sauna, and maybe jacuuzi also?). Now Sharks is just still ahead on the steamroom. Which is not 100% functional I believe. The lights needs fixing...What's your take on Palace? I hear Palace is very accessible from central station. I also heard their line up has the most flags. But it's overcrowded and the girls constantly approach you.
What's your take on Palace? I hear Palace is very accessible from central station. I also heard their line up has the most flags. But it's overcrowded and the girls constantly approach you.There is a Palace Thread. If you like girls hassling you, older girls, Silicones, etc. , Palace can be good. LOL I doubt over crowded. I have not attended for some time.
I also didn't understand why she get teeth braces now, because no problem for me for her teeth before. Not very beautiful skin.I remember her Sirioja. If she has "not very beautiful skin" and silicon breasts, as you and others have described. I agree, she did not need braces. We had just an average session in the room, but she was very friendly on the couches. Nice personality.
FiddyCent.
ExpatLover
01-09-17, 05:41
What's your take on Palace? I hear Palace is very accessible from central station. I also heard their line up has the most flags. But it's overcrowded and the girls constantly approach you.Palace and Manhattan are both easily accessible by public transport, don't over focus on the LU, the beauty is in the eyes of the watcher and I repeat none of us can tell what will be the LU in any FKK in Germany the day before sometimes the girls are not there (sick, period.) or there but very busy (pre-booked) or they are there even some new one and you will have a great day, just go there and see.
What's your take on Palace? I hear Palace is very accessible from central station. I also heard their line up has the most flags. But it's overcrowded and the girls constantly approach you.You can choose the non-approach armband. The lineup is fine. A bit less girls than at sharks or oase, but the presentation is a little better because of better lighting and ambience. More or less a bit of a gamble with some girls. But some great girls can be found there too. Higher entry fee though. 70 (or was it 75?) euro. So there goes what you save in travel cost to sharks or oase right out the window again.
Hessen Bub
01-09-17, 12:28
Palace: 75€. Unless you choose the 2 h business tariff. That will give you 25€ back.
HB.
Went to Oase on Saturday, from 3 pm to 9 pm.
The lighting and the roman theme in the club appeals to me, and it has the best lighting of Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase. The relax area over the dining area is a really nice touch, with a nice view of the garden.
There were about 30 girls and 20 guys there when I arrived, and this grew to about 50 girls and 30 guys by the time I left.
Claudia, Romanian, about 20 years old, A / B-cups, slim:
Did an hour room with Claudia, with below average service. BBBJ was okay, but even though we agreed on DFK beforehand, she did not initiate any kisses, and only permitted short, light kisses before she pulled away. Sex was plain, so I finished around the 40 minute mark. Would not repeat.
Amanda, Romania, 18 years old, C-cups, slim:
Having read the forums beforehand, I recognized her name when she and Angelina came over to me and suggested a duo. I declined, and did a room with Claudia instead, as I wanted a good session to start the day.
However, my session with Claudia turned out to be a waste of money, so I grabbed Amanda for a 30 min, 50 e room just before I left the club. She is really beautiful, with small eyes, small mouth, very slim waste and gorgeous, natural see-cups.
She made it clear beforehand that 50 e just involves BBBJ and sex, and no kissing, DATY or licking anywhere. I was not after anything apart from fucking one of the most beautiful girls I've seen in a FKK, so I happily agreed.
She started off with a BBBJ after some cuddling and fondling of her nice breasts, and the BBBJ was fast, shallow and teethy. However, with instructions and some time, I was soon enjoying a decent BBBJ, and I did especially enjoy her looking up at me every 15 seconds to see if I had further instructions regarding the BBBJ.
She is very inexperienced, but it seems she does not mind being taught how to perform better. We moved on to sex, and despite me being of decent size, I could go as deep and as hard as I wanted, both in missionary and doggy. Afterwards, she asked me to join her for dinner, but I was heading to Mainhattan for a date with Samantha, so I politely declined.
Would repeat.
Vito Corleone
01-10-17, 08:34
Went to Oase on Saturday, from 3 pm to 9 pm.
The lighting and the roman theme in the club appeals to me, and it has the best lighting of Sharks / Mainhattan / Oase. The relax area over the dining area is a really nice touch, with a nice view of the garden.
There were about 30 girls and 20 guys there when I arrived, and this grew to about 50 girls and 30 guys by the time I left.
Claudia, Romanian, about 20 years old, A / B-cups, slim:
Did an hour room with Claudia, with below average service. BBBJ was okay, but even though we agreed on DFK beforehand, she did not initiate any kisses, and only permitted short, light kisses before she pulled away. Sex was plain, so I finished around the 40 minute mark. Would not repeat..Great trip report. Thanks!
What do you guys think of Elizabeth from Hungary? I fucked her for 3 hours non stop about 18 months ago. Does she still work at the club and is she still in shape?
What do you guys think of Elizabeth from Hungary? I fucked her for 3 hours non stop about 18 months ago. Does she still work at the club and is she still in shape?Dude I stopped at two hours twice plus one hour before that with her so I win I guess! LOL
Jokes apart, I last saw her last March and not seeing her since June 2015, well I confess I had a difficult time recognizing her, I was going to ask her if she underwent some kinda surgery cause her face was a bit odd. My point is time passing is never too good with these FKK babes. For sure she was much better and much more fresh faced in November 2014 (our first encounter) than in March 2016, back then she was an unbelievable baby doll!
UltraHappy
01-11-17, 02:17
What do you guys think of Elizabeth from Hungary? I fucked her for 3 hours non stop about 18 months ago. Does she still work at the club and is she still in shape?I remember seeing her there in early December. She looked as good as ever.
Though you might be surprised if you see her showing up to work on her way to the locker room before she puts her face on -- I almost didn't recognize her one time when she showed up to work before she got all dolled up.
Anyways, she was looking the same last month as I remember her when she first started working at Oase. She's not exactly my preferred type but I can see why guys are attracted to her.
Though, good luck catching her between rooms -- she's never just standing around and often has guys waiting on her.
TankTank123
01-11-17, 03:08
Having read the forums beforehand, I recognized her name when she and Angelina came over to me and suggested a duo. I declined, and did a room with Claudia instead, as I wanted a good session to start the day.
However, my session with Claudia turned out to be a waste of money, Despite reading the forums (Oase and Mainhatten) beforehand, you probably missed reading the numerous mixed reports over the last few years, mostly tending to the negative, about Claudia/Aida/Kim!
Hessen Bub
01-11-17, 09:03
Claudia aka Aida is still turning my head every time she walks by. She's still talking and sitting with me trying to make me go with her. But I don't think she really believes that it will happen. Because it will not. Her service declined seriously over the years. At the same time her demand for money increased tremendously.
HB.
YamaYama0519
01-11-17, 09:10
…Claudia, Romanian…my session with Claudia turned out to be a waste of money…
…numerous mixed reports over the last few years, mostly tending to the negative, about Claudia/Aida/Kim!Just YMMV
…2) Claudia 1440-1520,100 E; the first time in the past six months. She, before the session, proposed her new plan, her erotic and normal massage and unlimited fingering for 50 E extra, I accepted it. In our arena her 15 min erotic massage, BBBJ, 69, DATY with her O, missionary with the second O, fingering DATY with her big O, the second missionary with the fourth O, her rest for wound in war, her smoking and her aroma-massage on me. Must repeat….
…1)Claudia 1400-1455 (100 E) excluding 5 min as tip: She said she was so exhausted yesterday that she could not come to work, so this is the first time for the past two days to see her in the club and grab her to a room. In a room kissing, caressing, 3-minute's DATY leading her to her first cum, 5-misute's missionary to her second cum, 2-minue's DATY to her third cum, and 5-minute's missionary to her forth cum were what we enjoyed restlessly for 25 minutes. She requested 5 min rest and 20 min massage on her, during which she almost fell asleep. We made a promise to meet around midnight then eat pizza. Must must repeat…YamaYama.
YamaYama0519
01-11-17, 09:11
Claudia aka Aida....her demand for money increased tremendously HB.That's true, HB. YamaYama.
Claudia aka Aida is still turning my head every time she walks by. She's still talking and sitting with me trying to make me go with her. But I don't think she really believes that it will happen. Because it will not. Her service declined seriously over the years. At the same time her demand for money increased tremendously.
HB.Too assertive for me when I tried her long ago, even to the extent of being a bit of a "smart ass". She definitely likes to run the session and not trust the customer to behave well. I had been thinking of trying her again, hoping for improved more relaxed session. Now I see this seems overly optimistic. Laid back relaxed girls for me. LOL.
I had the pleasure of having a session with Viki from Moldova. Dark hair, blue eyes, small tits and very pretty face. She looks like Demi Moore. Great session despite her upsell which started as soon as we got into the room. I gave in for few extras and ended up staying for an hour with her. Excellent BJ skills and very good performance overall. She either had or faked (two Os, if she faked them she is even better in faking them than providing services. Being a newbie in the scene how often do the girls have orgasms or do they just fake to have them to make us happy? I would definitely repeat Viki. So far have been there twice and both visits have brought me one excellent session and one mediocre. The difference has been like a day and night. Good sessions have been GFEs which have left me think whether the girls really seriously enjoyed it or are they just masters in faking.
I had the pleasure of having a session with Viki from Moldova. Dark hair, blue eyes, small tits and very pretty face. She looks like Demi Moore. Great session despite her upsell which started as soon as we got into the room. I gave in for few extras and ended up staying for an hour with her. Excellent BJ skills and very good performance overall. She either had or faked (two Os, if she faked them she is even better in faking them than providing services. Being a newbie in the scene how often do the girls have orgasms or do they just fake to have them to make us happy? I would definitely repeat Viki. So far have been there twice and both visits have brought me one excellent session and one mediocre. The difference has been like a day and night. Good sessions have been GFEs which have left me think whether the girls really seriously enjoyed it or are they just masters in faking.When a woman tells me that she had an orgasm I tend to give it greater credibility if it was unaccompanied by the screaming and shouting.
When a woman tells me that she had an orgasm I tend to give it greater credibility if it was unaccompanied by the screaming and shouting.Agree. Some play pornstars, but some bite their lips without sound before cumming, giving bitter juice to drink. Anyway, can feel how the girl is wet, about chicken skin, hard pointing nipples and sometimes exhausted eyes.
From my experience, how Madi World improved from noisy to a classy sensual GF.
Does Oase still house any Asians? Are they more light or dark skinned?
Thanks in advance.
ExpatLover
01-12-17, 20:18
I had the pleasure of having a session with Viki from Moldova. Dark hair, blue eyes, small tits and very pretty face. She looks like Demi Moore. Great session despite her upsell which started as soon as we got into the room. I gave in for few extras and ended up staying for an hour with her. Excellent BJ skills and very good performance overall. She either had or faked (two Os, if she faked them she is even better in faking them than providing services. Being a newbie in the scene how often do the girls have orgasms or do they just fake to have them to make us happy? I would definitely repeat Viki. So far have been there twice and both visits have brought me one excellent session and one mediocre. The difference has been like a day and night. Good sessions have been GFEs which have left me think whether the girls really seriously enjoyed it or are they just masters in faking.For a experience monger it is quite easy to feel the difference between a fake one and a real one, a major indicator is if you make her come with your oral skills you will have to stop after she came because she will not be able to accept any additional touching for several minutes, another one is the heart rate that will necessarily increase and she will get wet not only on her pussy but under her arms etc. For my experience of hundreds of sessions I believe that most of the girls will only come with cunnilingus.
I had the pleasure of having a session with Viki from Moldova. Dark hair, blue eyes, small tits and very pretty face. She looks like Demi Moore. Great session despite her upsell which started as soon as we got into the room. I gave in for few extras and ended up staying for an hour with her. Excellent BJ skills and very good performance overall. She either had or faked (two Os, if she faked them she is even better in faking them than providing services. Being a newbie in the scene how often do the girls have orgasms or do they just fake to have them to make us happy? I would definitely repeat Viki. So far have been there twice and both visits have brought me one excellent session and one mediocre. The difference has been like a day and night. Good sessions have been GFEs which have left me think whether the girls really seriously enjoyed it or are they just masters in faking.I think another when a girl in club has sex every day how can always have orgasms? Such girl are actress if not so pretend, next time you do not go more with her.
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In the movie "her" even a software programm get a big O and also the guy get one only with talking with the voice of the software programm, ok the voice is from SJ. Seriously the last real O a P6 girl had with me was in 2013!
Does Oase still house any Asians? Are they more light or dark skinned?
Thanks in advance.On November, a pretty Thai on day team. She behave smiling and friendly.
Did anybody ever see a white skin Chinese girl in FKK? They are more white skin in north China, not so yellow. I don t mean World MILF.
In the movie "her" even a software programm get a big O and also the guy get one only with talking with the voice of the software programm, ok the voice is from SJ. Seriously the last real O a P6 girl had with me was in 2013!You are not into servicing the girl? Even Beatrice could enjoy herself reluctantly on occasions.
Neurosynth
01-13-17, 20:52
Most of these 'rate of orgasm' statements are far too high. FKK girls might have sex with 4-8 guys (or more) 6 days a week. Do you really think they are having dozens of orgasms per week with guys they don't even know or care for? Or do you think you are special with a high orgasm-given rate that other guys can't even approach?
(This is not directed at any particular guy, so please don't take offense.).
Most of these 'rate of orgasm' statements are far too high. FKK girls might have sex with 4-8 guys (or more) 6 days a week. Do you really think they are having dozens of orgasms per week with guys they don't even know or care for? Or do you think you are special with a high orgasm-given rate that other guys can't even approach?
(This is not directed at any particular guy, so please don't take offense.).Absolutely agreed. I don't thinks girls are having them at the YY rate, nor with every customer. It does make for amusing reading though, especially the highly multi-O Evita (other thread), the most incredibly horny girl. All that money coming in gives her many big Os. I don't criticise her, BTW, she must be a lovely girl, and impressive that she improved her popularity out of sight from her early beginnings. I respect girls that know how to work and make big money.
Now if turned it around and asked what percentage of girls had zero big Os for the month at work, we might get well under 100%. Some girls try to enjoy their work a little, if and when it is possible. Not every customer is dreaded. At Oase, May is a good example of a part time girl out to have a lot of fun, as well as make money. A very non typical girl. Sometimes likes to be sure she likes the customer, before wasting her time having a session. At least was very much this way when she first started. A horny girl. Does she get pops at work? Absolutely. However I don't know the percentage of occasions.
One Sharks girl gossiped to me about how it made her angry that a well known ISGer reported her pop, and wrote no repeat with her, like she enjoyed it more than he did. She vehemently denied having that mythical pop, with that particular customer, knowing very well who the writer was. She never complained about anything I wrote though, since my reports were very fair. She avidly read all forums, several languages.
We can't make a rule that says all girls are exactly the same, and likewise for the customers. Some customers perhaps never got a girl turned on, especially if they are the customer who just lies back and gets blown, or just have the personality that pisses girls off. They like to assume that every customer cannot be getting girls turned on any better.
If you received 100 BBBJs in month and were paid to do so from all types of girls, could you and would you resist ever cumming? Perhaps not. Perhaps you would try to, for fear your sexual powers would be diminished for the next session. Why should girls be so very different? A pop is unlikely, but possible. With some customers, a pop for the girl becomes extremely unlikely. Sure plenty of fake pops are occurring and often are not very impressive. Are some girls the most incredibly skilful actresses in the world? I don't know.
Do you have orgasms with girls you don't even know or care for? You see, it is not relevant. We don't have to be in love to cum. merely experience a good technique from and acceptable girl, and be in the right frame of mind to allow it to happen.
If a girl should happen to pop, there is absolutely no need for her to announce it. One latin girl at the Palace (maybe called Nichole I think some time ago) told me that my DATY gave her, her first ever FKK pop. Naturally I was sceptical, both about being sure she popped, and also about being her first time. Not sure which of the two to be more skeptical about. Can't believe all the stories girls tell us.
A girl is more believable if she does not announce a pop, if her pussy has easy to feel convulsions (perhaps fakeable), and if she is very inconsistent, like getting one occasionally and after very different amounts of time to get there, and if she seems much more horny after return from holidays, than usual, and if she is quite honest enough to say, that sorry today I can't make it, or I need to maintain my energy for later bookings.
One girl at the Palace asked me to stop our early in the day sessions, since her other customers complained about how lacklustre she was after sessions with me. I was working her too hard (in the DATY). LOL.
FormulaOneFan
01-14-17, 06:32
I've had my share of fake O's for sure from the WLs. I have one favorite who during our first few sessions she convinced me she was orgasming, but as I spent more time with her I learned her pattern and while it was very good acting, it was acting. Some girls barely even try to make it convincing, but some sell it really well.
That said, I've had a few girls where it was quite clear it was real. As others have said. During DATY the secretions change, there are involuntary muscle responses, etc. There's one fave of mine (no longer at Oase) who acted very similar to an ex of mine- when she orgasmed she clenched up and kicked out with her legs. Made for a very, uh, interesting experience at times. It was clear hers were real not just from her spasms, but when she would get up she was literally dripping on the floor.
As for frequency. Ever girl? Eh, no. Multiple times per girl? Meh, maybe once, but rare if ever. Do I appreciate that the WL's who fake it convincingly? Absolutely. Do I always believe it? No.
YamaYama0519
01-14-17, 09:20
I've had my share of fake O's for sure from the WLs…Find me in Lounge and chat area.
TommyBoy336
01-14-17, 16:07
If you received 100 BBBJs in month and were paid to do so from all types of girls, could you and would you resist ever cumming?Seeing no other volunteers, I guess I'll step up and TOFTT. Where do I sign up?
ExpatLover
01-14-17, 20:24
I've had my share of fake O's for sure from the WLs. I have one favorite who during our first few sessions she convinced me she was orgasming, but as I spent more time with her I learned her pattern and while it was very good acting, it was acting. Some girls barely even try to make it convincing, but some sell it really well.
That said, I've had a few girls where it was quite clear it was real. As others have said. During DATY the secretions change, there are involuntary muscle responses, etc. There's one fave of mine (no longer at Oase) who acted very similar to an ex of mine- when she orgasmed she clenched up and kicked out with her legs. Made for a very, uh, interesting experience at times. It was clear hers were real not just from her spasms, but when she would get up she was literally dripping on the floor.
As for frequency. Ever girl? Eh, no. Multiple times per girl? Meh, maybe once, but rare if ever. Do I appreciate that the WL's who fake it convincingly? Absolutely. Do I always believe it? No.Sorry but what are your different questions, if it is are the girls faking I would like to say no more or less that the spouses or girlfriends for those who have (personally I have no one).
Medium-tall, light- almost whte-skinned, shoulder-length black hair frizzed up with bangs like someone out of the 1980's, cherry red lips, very skinny. Possibly Russian or I imagine to be Russian. She's been there at least a year. Any suggestions?
I've had my share of fake O's for sure from the WLs. I have one favorite who during our first few sessions she convinced me she was orgasming, but as I spent more time with her I learned her pattern and while it was very good acting, it was acting. Some girls barely even try to make it convincing, but some sell it really well.
Right on. Reality has no pattern. Things vary.
Sorry but what are your different questions, if it is are the girls faking I would like to say no more or less that the spouses or girlfriends for those who have (personally I have no one).Could you put that into English?
Medium-tall, light- almost whte-skinned, shoulder-length black hair frizzed up with bangs like someone out of the 1980's, cherry red lips, very skinny. Possibly Russian or I imagine to be Russian. She's been there at least a year. Any suggestions?Does she have a little bit bee stung lips? Your description could match many, and a lot of new girls in last year, but Bia (Rom) popped into my head as a tallish dark shoulder length haired girl with a fringe I tried, who could look Russian maybe. Perhaps she is not "very skinny" though. Merely slim. Not sure if she can be the one. Looks really hot. Likes to wear a boob tube covering top of her tits, but not underneath so boobs swing freely under a bit of cloth. Natural B cups.
My session with her was good, but some months later she did not seem as friendly as the first time, so did not repeat. I do know she can perform well if she wants to. Seemed a little moody. I am not even 100% sure the name is correct.
Nympholepsy tried out Bia(Bea) on 22 Nov 2015 and reported here. I met him, and he mentioned the girl and hence I listed her. I tried her also subsequently. Was reported that she was formerly Ramona at World. Bia/Bea has certainly been seen a few times last year.
Does she have a little bit bee stung lips? Your description could match many, and a lot of new girls in last year, but Bia (Rom)..."Thanks! Yes, likely her.
Most of these 'rate of orgasm' statements are far too high. FKK girls might have sex with 4-8 guys (or more) 6 days a week. Do you really think they are having dozens of orgasms per week with guys they don't even know or care for? Or do you think you are special with a high orgasm-given rate that other guys can't even approach?No kidding. You know you can actually lay outside one of the busiest fuck huts at Sharks and listen (intentionally or not) to sounds made inside. I have yet to hear a real orgasm, but the fake acted ones come about 75% of the time. I have a very good ear and scored 10 out of 9 in the army for hearing, so no faking with me :p
Personally I find it to be too much hassle most of the time to try and get the girls to cum, but the main reason is time. You have to work them up too long for it to be worth it, and then paying them would be less worth it. sure it is a bonus if they can make it. But spending 20 out of my 25ish minutes on daty at this one particular girl 2 years ago kinda made me loose some interest. I made her O I think, but the work requirement and lack of time for myself to enjoy afterwards being stressed on time made me feel she was the one that should be paying me... The exceptions would be a girl on her first day after a long vacation or completely new... then it is easier (and i guess much less popular girls. But I never try those anyway...)
Asian girls are easier to make cum though... somehow...
PussyLiccker
01-16-17, 01:03
The exceptions would be a girl on her first day after a long vacation or completely new... then it is easier (and i guess much less popular girls. But I never try those anyway...)I recall a girl that broke water when she mounted and rode. She was like, "I just came back from months of being away from the job without sex." Really nothing I did, she just rode, and broke water. Haha.
Thanks! Yes, likely her.Did Bia used to have what the stylists call a "blunt cut with bangs"? Search link: https://www.google.com/search?q=blunt+cut+with+bangs+over+eyes.
Another ID request? Medium height, not skinny, not full-figured pretty brunette with minimal makeup, shoulder length (I think) hair with a big tattoo of a geisha on her shoulder? Any good?
I would have chatted with her, but she was busy all evening.
Sorry for the question storm, will post a TR soon.
Did Bia used to have what the stylists call a "blunt cut with bangs"? Search link: https://www.google.com/search?q=blunt+cut+with+bangs+over+eyes.
Hair something like these pics:
I will have to leave the other girl question to the tattoo experts. I probably would not notice for this type of girl (or too long since last saw such a thing).
You know you can actually lay outside one of the busiest fuck huts at Sharks and listen (intentionally or not) to sounds made inside. I have yet to hear a real orgasm, but the fake acted ones come about 75% of the time. I have a very good ear and scored 10 out of 9 in the army for hearing, so no faking with me :p
My hearing is crap but no problem.
Yes we all heard plenty of ludicrous sounding moaning, very hard to believe. So what? The quieter girls often seem more believable. LOL. You can't claim to be able to pick a real orgasm from a fake purely by Aural methods. It's not enough evidence. In the end it is no big deal. There is no need to be seeking to be 100% certain of anything, especially stories or sounds coming from the room.
I have met the odd girl that really is a screamer, including my ex wife, extremely loud, annoying the neighbours. However sounds prove nothing. We all know the percentage of screamers in FKK is far too high. I did not measure the percentage. So I could not estimate.
Guys have been known to make sounds too. LOL One girl gave me a nick name of Mr. "Oh yes" years ago. I probably tried to reduce it from embarrassment after that.
I recall a girl that broke water when she mounted and rode. She was like, "I just came back from months of being away from the job without sex." Really nothing I did, she just rode, and broke water. Haha.Yes its far more likely in cowgirl than in mish as girl gets to be in control of the movement. She can decide to loose control or not, and can be a last moment change of mind.
Imagine how easy we would pop too, if did not fuck, wank, or cum for a month. LOL Is that even possible?
Anyone who says that FKK girls never pop is just as naďve as those who think they always pop. Just how rare is it? I don't know. Ask the girls. Might get honest answers from very self confident girls. Acted pops should be more prevalent than real ones, maybe? I don't even know if acted pops are a high percentage of sessions or low. I don't take girls that are obviously acting, much. First time with Ellis (skinny blonde model) I told her that her performance was way over the top, perhaps somewhat tongue in cheek style amusing, but that I would take her again if she cut out the bullshit, and she did. She seemed much more natural in repeats. Dina's (Sharks) performance was very fake too (silly moaning) but never took her again.
.Guys have been known to make sounds too. LOL One girl gave me a nick name of Mr. "Oh yes" years ago. I probably tried to reduce it from embarrassment after that.Well, at least you did. Until now Mr Oh yes.
Hair something like these pics:
I will have to leave the other girl question to the tattoo experts. I probably would not notice for this type of girl (or too long since last saw such a thing).
Thanks -- yeah, I thought I remembered her! Funny how she's changed her look. She has a very distinctive style. Some of the other Romanians (the medium-sized bottle blonds and the small, girlish-bodied brunettes) tend to look very much like one another and I sometimes find it hard to tell them apart.
Thanks -- yeah, I thought I remembered her! Funny how she's changed her look. She has a very distinctive style. Some of the other Romanians (the medium-sized bottle blonds and the small, girlish-bodied brunettes) tend to look very much like one another and I sometimes find it hard to tell them apart.I agree that Bia (ex Palace Ramona) looked very different to the rest, in a sort of provocative in your face sexual sort of way. Could imagine her easily in a black or red latex mistress suit with whips. LOL Got a pretty good session out of her when she was in not in the mood to punish me severely. LOL Just imagining these things, based purely on her severe look.
Actually Syz, it can make sense to make sounds sometimes. I've had one or two girls in the past that got a bit annoyed at me for not making a sound just before I was about to cum. Perhaps they had some secret present for me? Some other girls I have gone with always make eye contact and show these horny facial expressions when I Finnish. That is a really nice flavor I wish all girls would do. And a bonus on their part when I see it. So I'll be sure to let them know next time also. Perhaps with my own version of an oh yes. LOL.
Ran across this youtube video showing how to walk from the train station cross country and arrive at the back of Oase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2rG17nVr1I
Ran across this youtube video showing how to walk from the train station cross country and arrive at the back of Oase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2rG17nVr1IWhen the weather is good. I always take a walk from Hotel Arkadia. It is about 45 minutes.
Ran across this youtube video showing how to walk from the train station cross country and arrive at the back of Oase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2rG17nVr1IPlay in stop start mode.
Could do without the Piano. At intersections, the directions to turn or go straight are in Japanese, however if gone wrong way the next picture will be wrong. LOL Might be worth having a printed Map with path marked as well. Or instructions in English. With good instructions, a video of stills would not be needed, but I guess it adds confidence that the person is really not lost in the fields.
YourBoyRoc
01-18-17, 13:11
What's your take on Palace? I hear Palace is very accessible from central station. I also heard their line up has the most flags. But it's overcrowded and the girls constantly approach you.As promised, here's my report. I got to my Hotel, Easy Hotel Frankfurt Central station around 9 PM. I was too tired from the long trip to go out, so I crashed for the night with plans to go to an FKK the next day.
Tuesday:
Finally, the day of my first FKK experience. After a lot of research on ISG I decided to go to Sharks. I took the train to Dormstadt Nord $8 ticket. When I got off the train there were no cabs but, fortunately the lady who works in the grocery store at the train station called me a cab, which was about $7 - $8. There's also a cab number posted on the wall outside the train station. Your much better off taking this route because a cab from Frankfurt central station will cost you $65 one way. I arrived at Sharks about 3:00 PM. 10/15 guys 10/15 girls. It was pretty quiet at the time. After changing and putting on my robe, I ordered a double shot of Hennessy and checked out the girls while I sipped on my Henny. The Girls were constantly approaching me trying to convince me to have a session with them but it wasn't in an annoying manner. I actually liked the attention. I would just tell them that I wanted to finish my drink and maybe later.
Ramona.
The first girl I hooked up with was a real skinny spinner with long black hair from Romania. I walked past Ramona when I first arrived and she reached for my crotch and said anaconda LOL. She gave good head including deep throat and she rode me so good I had to stop her several times so that I wouldn't cum too fast. She was so good, I decided to have a second session with her later that day. GFE probably the best fuck I had in Sharks. BBBJ DFK two 30 min sessions $100.
Laura.
My next hit was Laura from Hungary. Slim with type curly hair. She said she was new at Sharks. Laura fucked hard! Gave me the girlfriend experience. She seemed to enjoy it as much as me. I can tell by the way she moaned and how much she came. She was soaked in sweat when the session was over. DFK BBBJ 30 minutes $50.
Carmen.
My third session was with Carmen from Budapest. She has a short hair cut and she was thicker than my other choices. She also said she was new at Sharks. She was friends with Laura from Hungary. They sat together the whole time. Carmen's head was the best next to Ramona's. I had to stop her numerous times so that I wouldn't cum in her mouth LOL. Doggy style was the best. She has a nice ass and tight wet pussy. 30 minutes $50 BBBJ light kissing.
Eileen.
From Romania. Eileen is pretty with a nice little ass but far from a girlfriend experience. She has an attitude and was the worst session of the day. She doesn't kiss and she doesn't like her breast sucked or felt on. She actually uses a hand sanitizer cloth while sucking your dick, causing your dick to burn. I grabbed her breast and she said Slow down! When I sucked her breast she pulled away and wiped her breast off. I tried doggy style and she positioned herself where I couldn't really get up in her and would not let me put her legs up in missionary. When she was riding me, I could tell that she was not into it at all. I would not session with her again.
30 minutes and $50.
After my session with Eileen I decided to head back to my hotel. I left around 8 PM. I had so much fun, I never made it to Oase I went back to Sharks the next day. I'll post a report soon.
ExpatLover
01-18-17, 20:18
As promised, here's my report. I got to my Hotel, Easy Hotel Frankfurt Central station around 9 PM. I was too tired from the long trip to go out, so I crashed for the night with plans to go to an FKK the next day.
Tuesday:
Finally, the day of my first FKK experience. After a lot of research on ISG I decided to go to Sharks. I took the train to Dormstadt Nord $8 ticket. When I got off the train there were no cabs but, fortunately the lady who works in the grocery store at the train station called me a cab, which was about $7 - $8. There's also a cab number posted on the wall outside the train station. Your much better off taking this route because a cab from Frankfurt central station will cost you $65 one way. I arrived at Sharks about 3:00 PM. 10/15 guys 10/15 girls. It was pretty quiet at the time. After changing and putting on my robe, I ordered a double shot of Hennessy and checked out the girls while I sipped on my Henny. The Girls were constantly approaching me trying to convince me to have a session with them but it wasn't in an annoying manner. I actually liked the attention. I would just tell them that I wanted to finish my drink and maybe later...Thanks for the report and congratulations it is very impressive how many sessions you can have within 5 hours.
RubMeister100
01-25-17, 03:32
So after making Oase a home away from home for over 20 years, I think this Sunday was my last visit.
I had already had a great time at Sharks on Friday night, ok fun at Palace and Mainhattan on Saturday and another good time at Sharks after leaving Oase ooooooolate Saturday afternoon.
I was so excited to visit my favorite place in Germany and my rental car knew its way!
But when I got there and did my walk around, there was not ONE super hot girl to be seen. And maybe only 20 average girls and probably 20 girls that I would never want to touch. The food was really good, schnitzel was surprisingly fresh and crispy! The old log sauna was fantastic and the water in that beautiful stainless steel swimming pool was super refreshing. Twice!
Maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon but the line up was really not good. I had a good experience with an unusual looking girl at Mainhatten the night before so when I saw this really, really tall really skinny tanned blonde with wide hips and a huge thigh gap and a flat stomach I figured it would a fun experience for 50 euros! She was good, BBBJ, mpos and 69 etc. I enjoyed her as a last resort so as not to have the trip to Oase a complete waste of time. But is was good fun and she was a nice person and willing to please.
But unless Sharks burns down, next time I am in Frankfurt I don't think that Oase will be on my things to do list anymore.
Member #4585
01-25-17, 05:32
Maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon but the line up was really not good. I had a good experience with an unusual looking girl at Mainhatten the night before so when I saw this really, really tall really skinny tanned blonde with wide hips and a huge thigh gap and a flat stomach I figured it would a fun experience for 50 euros! She was good, BBBJ, mpos and 69 etc. I enjoyed her as a last resort so as not to have the trip to Oase a complete waste of time. But is was good fun and she was a nice person and willing to please.You have described Yasmine.
Maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon but the line up was really not good. It's not an optimal time, however I preferred Oase Sunday over Sharks' Sunday, on the last Sunday tries at each. It purely depends if you know some great girls and can get to them sometimes.
So compare to a Sharks line up on a Sunday afternoon. I gave up Sundays at Sharks because waited several hours to find a girl. The best were busy. Giving up a time slot is not the same as giving up the club. Sometimes have to find the right day.
It has long been warned not to come to Oase before 5 PM, unless you know specific great girls will be there.
Horny Harry
01-25-17, 16:20
But when I got there and did my walk around, there was not ONE super hot girl to be seen. And maybe only 20 average girls and probably 20 girls that I would never want to touch. The food was really good, schnitzel was surprisingly fresh and crispy! The old log sauna was fantastic and the water in that beautiful stainless steel swimming pool was super refreshing. Twice!
That was basically also my experience also when I visited Oase a few years ago.
Despite all the raving and positive reviews of some people on this forum, I failed to discover all those "hot models" they were talking about when I was there. Perhaps they were busy? Perhaps it was their day off? I doubt it though, because I visited once on a Friday and then a few weeks later on a Saturday, both times in November and both times arriving at roughly 4pm, so blaming "a slow month" or "some girls were busy/had taken the day off" or blaming "weekdays/Sundays are slow days" is not really valid IMO.
Pity to read this though, as I was thinking about a change of scenery from Sharks and perhaps try Oase again. Looks like I can save myself the hassle.
So after making Oase a home away from home for over 20 years, I think this Sunday was my last visit.
I had already had a great time at Sharks on Friday night, ok fun at Palace and Mainhattan on Saturday and another good time at Sharks after leaving Oase ooooooolate Saturday afternoon.
I was so excited to visit my favorite place in Germany and my rental car knew its way!
But when I got there and did my walk around, there was not ONE super hot girl to be seen. And maybe only 20 average girls and probably 20 girls that I would never want to touch. The food was really good, schnitzel was surprisingly fresh and crispy! The old log sauna was fantastic and the water in that beautiful stainless steel swimming pool was super refreshing. Twice!
Maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon but the line up was really not good. I had a good experience with an unusual looking girl at Mainhatten the night before so when I saw this really, really tall really skinny tanned blonde with wide hips and a huge thigh gap and a flat stomach I figured it would a fun experience for 50 euros! She was good, BBBJ, mpos and 69 etc. I enjoyed her as a last resort so as not to have the trip to Oase a complete waste of time. But is was good fun and she was a nice person and willing to please.
But unless Sharks burns down, next time I am in Frankfurt I don't think that Oase will be on my things to do list anymore.As a first timer, I was looking fwd to my trip to Oase this Thu and To Sharks on Fri. But based on your last exp, I am thrown off. I read such great things about Oase from others like things have really improved in the recent past including food. Palace was not even on my ITIN. If not Oase on Thu then which one? I do not want to go to Sharks both days.
JB.
So after making Oase a home away from home for over 20 years, I think this Sunday was my last visit.
I had already had a great time at Sharks on Friday night, ok fun at Palace and Mainhattan on Saturday and another good time at Sharks after leaving Oase ooooooolate Saturday afternoon.
I was so excited to visit my favorite place in Germany and my rental car knew its way!
But when I got there and did my walk around, there was not ONE super hot girl to be seen. And maybe only 20 average girls and probably 20 girls that I would never want to touch. The food was really good, schnitzel was surprisingly fresh and crispy! The old log sauna was fantastic and the water in that beautiful stainless steel swimming pool was super refreshing. Twice!
Maybe it was because it was a Sunday afternoon but the line up was really not good. I had a good experience with an unusual looking girl at Mainhatten the night before so when I saw this really, really tall really skinny tanned blonde with wide hips and a huge thigh gap and a flat stomach I figured it would a fun experience for 50 euros! She was good, BBBJ, mpos and 69 etc. I enjoyed her as a last resort so as not to have the trip to Oase a complete waste of time. But is was good fun and she was a nice person and willing to please.
But unless Sharks burns down, next time I am in Frankfurt I don't think that Oase will be on my things to do list anymore.I was there Friday and did find some pretty girls (no must haves). The attitude regarding service was terrible, which means it was a cheap day for me. It was funny in the evening to watch the girls on their bar stools and jump collectively as the next group of Asians walked in. It was a massacre every time, made me think of the first half an hour of Saving Private Ryan.
But yeah, little reason to go here anymore (maybe the food? But that is true for most of Hessen it seems.
PussyLiccker
01-26-17, 15:45
It was a massacre every time, made me think of the first half an hour of Saving Private Ryan.Maybe cause some PTSD from the upselling. LOL.
You got to say a prayer before each target like private Jackson. Haha.
https://youtu.be/QOpNFK14490
ExpatLover
01-26-17, 20:13
That was basically also my experience also when I visited Oase a few years ago.
Despite all the raving and positive reviews of some people on this forum, I failed to discover all those "hot models" they were talking about when I was there. Perhaps they were busy? Perhaps it was their day off? I doubt it though, because I visited once on a Friday and then a few weeks later on a Saturday, both times in November and both times arriving at roughly 4pm, so blaming "a slow month" or "some girls were busy/had taken the day off" or blaming "weekdays/Sundays are slow days" is not really valid IMO.
Pity to read this though, as I was thinking about a change of scenery from Sharks and perhaps try Oase again. Looks like I can save myself the hassle.Let's come back to earth, I was at Oase 3 times in the last 10 days, found very good LU, lot of GFE, of course I am not looking for porn star, really nice sweet Romanian girls, just need to take time with them to make them feel relax. I don't like hard fucking, I am also not dominant, but I am quite happy that now in the big FKK you can find girls with something in the head and not only artificial sex machine.
RubMeister100
01-27-17, 06:37
Let's come back to earth, I was at Oase 3 times in the last 10 days, found very good LU, lot of GFE, of course I am not looking for porn star, really nice sweet Romanian girls, just need to take time with them to make them feel relax. I don't like hard fucking, I am also not dominant, but I am quite happy that now in the big FKK you can find girls with something in the head and not only artificial sex machine.Come back to earth?
Horny harry and I both simply said that there *WE* did not see any stunning, top line hot women when we visited Oase. We said nothing about GFE or making the girls "feel relax". You are deluding yourself if you think you are some great seducer. What makes the girls "relax" is EUROS!
It has been my general experience that women are more attracted to and respectful of dominant men (not in any abusive way) and that the uber hot women are just as likely to be GFE as the less than average looking women.
If you are happy with and enjoy your time at Oase, as I have or 20+ years, then you should continue to enjoy this feeling. I am happy or you. It was just that this time I found that there were NO uber-hot 8+ girls at Oase and that their standards allowed many women who were outright BAD looking. Having such low threshold standards means to me that Oase is having a harder time attracting better looking women and are therefore their overall standards are declining.
RubMeister100
01-27-17, 06:41
As a first timer, I was looking fwd to my trip to Oase this Thu and To Sharks on Fri. But based on your last exp, I am thrown off. I read such great things about Oase from others like things have really improved in the recent past including food. Palace was not even on my ITIN. If not Oase on Thu then which one? I do not want to go to Sharks both days.
JB.I might suggest that you go to Sharks on Thursday, Palace on Friday and then head up to Bad Homburg to Taunus Therme (a public non-sexual sauna dreamland. Where you can also see normal women all naked!) then spend the day and evening at Oase. I think you shoudl go to Oase for the experience and to see if you like it. I enjoyed it for many many years. I suspect that Saturday night would have a better line up than my Sunday afternoon.
TankTank123
01-28-17, 00:36
head up to Bad Homburg to Taunus Therme (a public non-sexual sauna dreamland. Where you can also see normal women all naked!) 'Normal' women there are mainly plump MILFs or senior citizens!
I have been there a few times. But only because the visits were part of my day/night out with an Oase girl who stays at Bad Homburg. We had great times in the heated indoor swimming pool, where there is an area at the far end that is out of the view of those walking in between the spa rooms. If you go early enough, there might be nobody else in the pool and you can do whatever you like with the girl there.
I had always wanted to try fucking in one of the less-hot spas there too, but there were always some customers hopping from one spa room to the next. As such, my sex-in-a-sauna opportunity had so far been limited to one session in the Hammam in Bumsalp some years ago. I tried doing it once in Bernd's but the wooden platform in the sauna there was too rickety for it to be enjoyable. Anyone with good alternatives?
I had always wanted to try fucking in one of the less-hot spas there too, but there were always some customers hopping from one spa room to the next. As such, my sex-in-a-sauna opportunity had so far been limited to one session in the Hammam in Bumsalp some years ago. I tried doing it once in Bernd's but the wooden platform in the sauna there was too rickety for it to be enjoyable. Anyone with good alternatives?Don't you get "hot" enough from sex? If you want sex in a sauna, some of the Sharks rooms in summer are like that. That is exactly what I want to avoid. Sex in cool and comfort at Oase for me.
Let's come back to earth, I was at Oase 3 times in the last 10 days, found very good LU, lot of GFE, of course I am not looking for porn star, really nice sweet Romanian girls, just need to take time with them to make them feel relax. I don't like hard fucking, I am also not dominant, but I am quite happy that now in the big FKK you can find girls with something in the head and not only artificial sex machine.You failed to mention if you are "Fiddy" man or not. I think there can be a very big difference in the experience for 50 Euro guys, and guys that go 100+ Euros. Then it is still about selecting the right girls, with the chemistry, or regulars of course.
Still have some good looking girls though.
I don't have the long experience you have, but until last November when I had my last visit, the LU was fantastic. I ended up staying from 4 pm to closing time. The other thing that I like and have not found in other places is the quiet room, as sometimes you just want peace and quiet while still admiring the naked girls walking around.
Come back to earth?
Horny harry and I both simply said that there *WE* did not see any stunning, top line hot women when we visited Oase. We said nothing about GFE or making the girls "feel relax". You are deluding yourself if you think you are some great seducer. What makes the girls "relax" is EUROS!
It has been my general experience that women are more attracted to and respectful of dominant men (not in any abusive way) and that the uber hot women are just as likely to be GFE as the less than average looking women.
If you are happy with and enjoy your time at Oase, as I have or 20+ years, then you should continue to enjoy this feeling. I am happy or you. It was just that this time I found that there were NO uber-hot 8+ girls at Oase and that their standards allowed many women who were outright BAD looking. Having such low threshold standards means to me that Oase is having a harder time attracting better looking women and are therefore their overall standards are declining.
TankTank123
01-28-17, 03:32
If you want sex in a sauna, some of the Sharks rooms in summer are like that. Some of us have fetishes.
My most memorable session last year was a session with Dina covered with sweat in a hut in Sharks at the peak of summer.
As a first timer, I was looking fwd to my trip to Oase this Thu and To Sharks on Fri. But based on your last exp, I am thrown off. I read such great things about Oase from others like things have really improved in the recent past including food. Palace was not even on my ITIN. If not Oase on Thu then which one? I do not want to go to Sharks both days.
JB.January Sunday may be slow at Oase, but Thursday visit should get a better casting. Entry is 50 before 4 pm. I saw a pretty, small Thai in the afternoon. Many girls arrive around 5 pm. You can go to rest upstairs close to restaurant, or play football in the garden.
You should have best Sharks casting at the moment, on Friday.
Maybe Palace can also worth a visit if Oase is not good.
Hessen Bub
01-28-17, 09:41
I had always wanted to try fucking in one of the less-hot spas there too, but there were always some customers hopping from one spa room to the next. As such, my sex-in-a-sauna opportunity had so far been limited to one session in the Hammam in Bumsalp some years ago. I tried doing it once in Bernd's but the wooden platform in the sauna there was too rickety for it to be enjoyable. Anyone with good alternatives?Alternative in normal SPA or FKK club? Taunus Therme is quite old and worn down, full of old guys and women spending the day there, not a very sexy environment (anymore) for a date. There are quiet spots where you can fuck without being seen, but not in the water. The saunas are too busy. There's better options for SPA adventures around Frankfurt. Or try one of the 5* hotels with a SPA, they can be very quiet during weekdays and a good alternative if you want to have sex in a jacuzzi or sauna.
HB.
or play football in the garden.In January? Lol. I'll join you for football in the Oase garden in april or later this season. But not before, lol
HornyHarry: I felt the same in Oase 2013. LU for me there that year was awful. Perhaps you visited in 2013 also? Only 1 doable girl there for me that year. Then again, LU has greatly improved since that year imo. And that was the year Mauro tried out his pay for food scheme. Nowadays he has gone completely opposite, and food is the best at oase in any of the hessen clubs I have visited. Can only think of paradise stuttgart having better food ATM.
Rubmeister: Come on, on a good day, I think everyone has to give the full time girls Chayenne and Andre an 8+ in looks. And the part timers Cami, May and Miru too...
I would suggest switching that Palace and Sharks visit too. Sharks best day of the week is Fridays. And Palace top girls can be tricky to reach on fridays/saturdays as there are some high rollers there in central frankfurt tending to vip book them for several hours. There are much less of that at oase and sharks. So Palace on thursday basically... Oase best day is probably saturdays...
Then again, the slowest days are allways the best if you want to hit a full timer you know will be there...
RubMeister100
01-28-17, 19:41
Alternative in normal SPA or FKK club? Taunus Therme is quite old and worn down, full of old guys and women spending the day there, not a very sexy environment (anymore) for a date. There are quiet spots where you can fuck without being seen, but not in the water. The saunas are too busy. There's better options for SPA adventures around Frankfurt. Or try one of the 5* hotels with a SPA, they can be very quiet during weekdays and a good alternative if you want to have sex in a jacuzzi or sauna.
HB.Sad to hear Taunus Therme is worn down. But it doesn't surprise me. I recall the first time I went there it was brand new, having been destroyed by fire and then rebuilt. At the time it was beautiful and fresh. And as recently as 5 years ago when I was there last, I would regularly see women in their 20's there walking around naked.
I really enjoy the whole Sauna experience, complete with cold plunge pools etc. Do you have any suggestions of more modern or higher quality facilities (like Taunus Therme) in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? Non-sexual type places.
RubMeister100
01-28-17, 19:44
Rubmeister: Come on, on a good day, I think everyone has to give the full time girls Chayenne and Andre an 8+ in looks. And the part timers Cami, May and Miru too...
...I don't know if I saw any of these girls during my short Sunday visit. I jsut observed that during my time there, that not only was the line up absent of any stunners, there were many physically unattractive women there. My take-away from Oase admitting such calibre of women is that their standards have been lowered to simply populate the FKK with an adequate quantity of girls. I am very likely incorrect as I made my observation on what looked like a bad time.
I still think it could be a seasonal thing, or a high amount of randomness involved too. I've seen in the past at various clubs how people write on the forum one week about who is there, only to visit next week and miss out top 3 girls I wanted to see. And vise versa. And some months are better than other months... after a certain amount of visits you tend to get awfully picky at these clubs...
Hessen Bub
01-28-17, 22:35
Do you have any suggestions of more modern or higher quality facilities (like Taunus Therme) in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? Non-sexual type places.There are plenty of them in Germany. Depends where you are going. And if you are looking for a hotel / SPA combination or SPA / Therme only. Around Frankfurt:
http://bbf-frankfurt.de/titus-thermen/
http://www.rhein-main-therme.de/
http://www.jugendstilbad.de/
https://www.meridianspa.de/ (Frankfurt and other cities).
http://www.monte-mare.de/
http://www.wiesbaden.de/microsite/mattiaqua/kaiser-friedrich-therme/
http://www.wiesbaden.de/microsite/mattiaqua/kaiser-friedrich-therme/
Or in Germany:
https://www.claudius-therme.de/
https://www.badewelt-euskirchen.de/
http://www.balitherme.de/
http://www.toskanaworld.net/
http://www.carasana.de/de/friedrichsbad/startseite/
https://www.kisssalis.de/
http://www.therme-badwoerishofen.de/
http://www.ahr-thermen.de/
HB.
ExpatLover
01-28-17, 22:38
Sad to hear Taunus Therme is worn down. But it doesn't surprise me. I recall the first time I went there it was brand new, having been destroyed by fire and then rebuilt. At the time it was beautiful and fresh. And as recently as 5 years ago when I was there last, I would regularly see women in their 20's there walking around naked.
I really enjoy the whole Sauna experience, complete with cold plunge pools etc. Do you have any suggestions of more modern or higher quality facilities (like Taunus Therme) in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? Non-sexual type places.Really good one is Caracalla Baden Baden.
TankTank123
01-29-17, 03:30
Do you have any suggestions of more modern or higher quality facilities (like Taunus Therme) in Germany or elsewhere in Europe? Non-sexual type places.I have been to 3 others.
The best I have been to is Therme Erding north of Munich, easily reached by Bahn followed by a short bus ride or 10 minutes walk. The FKK area is absolutely huge. There were uncountable number of saunas with different kinds of Aufgusses every hour, extensive garden area, a bar where one sits partially submerged in the pool, and even a small sandy artificial beach. I also liked an indoor pool where you can float and enjoy music coming through the water when your ears are immersed in the water.
When I was there, there were plenty of young women to ogle at, unlike the zero at Taunus Therme. Because I brought a Colosseum girl with me the times I went there, I guess the other girls (mostly with male partners) would not think I was there to stare at them. On each occasion, I spent the whole afternoon there with my girl, alternating between saunas, Aufgusses, swimming, tanning in the garden and 'beach', and drinking at the nude bar, before retiring to a hotel at night.
Another good one I have been to is Kristalbad at Klosterlausnitz. Highlight is the large wave pool. The wave pool is, however, not always FKK as the barrier between FKK and non-FKK areas comes up at certain times on certain days. Great feeling to be buffeted by the waves with nothing on. Also joined a nude water aerobics class, with 2-3 not-that-young but attractive girls around me.
Claudius Therme in Cologne was a disappointment compared to those two. Its size is about that of Taunus Therme. The changing room had more like a public swimming pool feeling. I have been there only once, 2 years ago, with a Bernd's girl, and we left after just 2 hours as its ambience was not really conducive to a long stay.
Postscript after having just read expatlover's post, which only appeared on my computer after I had posted the paragraphs above.
I forgot that I have been to 2 others a long time ago. One was the ancient Friedrichsbad Baden-Baden with a fixed sequence of stations, one where you get painfully scrubbed by a huge hairy man, and the Caracalla spa next to it.
Caracalla was better than Taunus and Claudius, but cannot match Erding and Klosterlausnitz. Maybe it was less enjoyable because I went there after going through the very long ritual at Friedrichsbad next door, or maybe because I did not have a pretty FKK girl with me to enjoy that particular visit with. (At that time, I had not yet thought about bringing FKK girls out.)
HornyHarry: I felt the same in Oase 2013. LU for me there that year was awful. Perhaps you visited in 2013 also? Only 1 doable girl there for me that year. Then again, LU has greatly improved since that year imo.I wonder how many times you attended in 2013. It is quite difficult to say it was awful for the whole year. I had some really good times early in the year and through the middle of the year. I will admit their were not many stunners, but similar to 2012. My regular girls would have been Lavinia, Amalia (before moved to Sharks), newer Anna (Rom), Maria (Deu) (not Marie), Elizabeth (Czech), Luna, Crina, Magda, Sylvia. I did get very bored with Oase at end of 2013 when Line Up deteriorated, and almost all my favourites were gone. I don't think early to mid 2013 line up was worse than 2012, other than perhaps the famous Lena (Slov) was gone. Cassandra very long gone.
Stunning girls in the line up is not that useful, unless they are well worth repeating. So did the competition clubs have many very pretty girls worth repeating, in 2013? I would like to know who those girls were. I guess I did Samantha, Diana, and Andrea at World while they were still there, Madi in 2014, and not that many Sharks girls tried were worth repeating, let alone stunning, around that time.
So end of 2013 and early 2014 is where I could agree the line up was boring. Later on a lot of new pretty girls showed up, probably around the summer of 2014. Girls like Ina, Beatrice, Elizabeth (Hun), Sabina (Ramona), Christina, Angie, slim blonde Maria, etc.
PussyLiccker
01-29-17, 05:32
I'd say Automech 2014 was peak for Ro LU (somewhat developed around that time, and it was also due to girls that gathered from other clubs which made it quite strong), and sustained for a bit. Speaking optically of course.
I'd say Automech 2014 was peak for Ro LU (somewhat developed around that time, and it was also due to girls that gathered from other clubs which made it quite strong), and sustained for a bit. Speaking optically of course.Yep, that was the start of a an extended period for best overall visual line ups (pretty girls) in Oase, that I can recall, if dropped off a little after the Automechaniker. Even Helli tried there very briefly.
PussyLiccker
01-29-17, 06:03
For Ro visuals, that time was better. I think the LU was stagnet for a bit before the changes in 2014, that may have caused some boredom until the big changes in 2014.
2013 I shifted to Mainhattan more due to this as I wasn't into World so much. I think that was the time I tried out other clubs outside Oase in Hessen.
I was today at Oase from 6:30 pm, met few girls, after 3 days at Sharks I was tired and just wanted to pick one girl, Claudia approached me at 9 PM, I liked her, but I wanted to wait little bit, at 10 PM I was ready and was looking for her but didn't find her, I ate dinner at 11 PM, there was no sign of her so I thought she left, then a girl I know approached me, I like her but I forgot her name, I was with her in room for 35 min as she said (obviously she wanted to charge me an hour) so I stayed with her in the room chatting for about 20 min then I payed her (forgot my watch which was a mistake).
It was about 1 am, I stayed for a while watching the nude girls, I had no plan for another girl, when suddenly I saw Claudia so I went to herand speak with her, we went to the room, I wasent horney but I liked her face and body (9) , I also liked her way of approching which was very good, in the room I told her I'm not in a hurry I want to injoy my time with her. AND damn I did, I really didn't want to leave the room, sex was fantastic and her personality is great, I didn't leave until 4:30 am when the club was closing, and I did asked her where she was around 10 pm so she told me with a customer for 4 hours!! I can see why.
This Claudia is romanian, 22 years old, black hair, round cute face, model body and small boobs.
Although I was disappointed with OASE today, but one girl really makes defferent, she is leaving Germany early Monday. I don't think I will met her on this trip, maybe on my next trip. Just wanted to make oase report because I wanted to mention her.
Syz: true, I mostly visited second half of 2013. Only once (x3 days at oase) during first half, and that first visit was the best too... not sure how often during 2nd half. But it was probably 3 trips to hessen I believe past june where I checked out oase. But maybe just 1 or 2 visits per trip as I was not too impressed. I ended up switching slowly to palace back in those days when i went hessen. Palace had a few good months that fall. But around new year I switched back to mostly Artemis again... as it was less risky with more choices in general there back then... then again I went only public transport and so it was a gamble each time I chose a club for the night. With rental car its easier to gamble and make riskier club choices...
Come to think of it syz, didn't we meet at Oase once that fall discussing the deteriorated lineup back then? Or was that fall 2014?
But its not important. Important thing is todays lineup. And more updates are needed. The german forum that posts line ups have this sign on thingy I cannot make out, so even if I get to read the reports, it seems I can only read stuff over a week old...
Yep, that was the start of a an extended period for best overall visual line ups (pretty girls) in Oase, that I can recall, if dropped off a little after the Automechaniker. Even Helli tried there very briefly.Laura / Livia and Isabella were at Oase on Summer 2013 , maybe Juicy also? Oase casting was great when I discovered on end of June 2014, with Maria Platinium, Ina. Lat. Small Laura, small Carla, Roxana, Suginella, Melissa, Laura and Juicy are still there. Just lack of sensual women at Oase, too many teeny type. Some Romanian girls can smell so much sensuality, but those are in other clubs. I remember Roberta. Ro ex Relax Zurich, on last 3 July in a so warm Sharks chalet. What a woman, just what I look for.
Hessen Bub
01-29-17, 09:15
This Claudia is romanian, 22 years old, black hair, round cute face, model body and small boobs.Does she have a lot of tattoos? Then it is Ex Mainhattan Aida. Difficult to say while oase doesn't have a one name one girl policy.
HB.
Come to think of it syz, didn't we meet at Oase once that fall discussing the deteriorated lineup back then? Or was that fall 2014?
No idea.
I certainly would not have been talking decline in fall of 2014. Quite the opposite, but I was one of the few. Fall 2013 I might have been lamenting the disappearance of skinny Sylvia (Judith's Hungarian friend), as she was an amazing passionate firecracker in the room (a lot more compatible for me than Judith). Very inexperienced no doubt, which can be an advantage for attitude. Then a few others went missing as well.
Does she have a lot of tattoos? Then it is Ex Mainhattan Aida. Difficult to say while oase doesn't have a one name one girl policy.
HB.Claudia / Aida used to be called Kim at Oase, but I have not checked recently. He described Claudia as a round face, which doesn't sound right, since I find her (Claudia/Aida/Kim's) face very pretty, and I usually don't go for round faces. However round face is a very vague term, I admit.
Hessen Bub
01-29-17, 09:55
Now I remember. Too many names for her. Pinky. Aida. Claudia. Kim. So probably another girl.
HB.
Hessen Bub
01-29-17, 13:28
http://schwabenquellen.de/de
Nice Therme. Been there.
HB.
Horny Harry
01-29-17, 13:58
I wonder how many times you attended in 2013. It is quite difficult to say it was awful for the whole year.
No idea.
I certainly would not have been talking decline in fall of 2014. Quite the opposite, but I was one of the few.
I was there in the fall of 2014, think it was end of October and perhaps middle of November. LU sucked, despite you hyping it up.
Are you their sales / spokesperson? Are you a shareholder? 😂.
Four hours with a customer followed by another long room it can't possibly be the same girl; did she give up drinking coffee?
This Claudia sounds a gem, thank you for the report Tuber19.
RubMeister100
01-29-17, 16:47
Thanks very much Hessen Bub and TankTank123 for the info on other (non-sexual) sauanas / FKK's!
I will check out those places' web sites. Might be a good excuse to return sooner than later!
Claudia / Aida used to be called Kim at Oase, but I have not checked recently. He described Claudia as a round face, which doesn't sound right, since I find her (Claudia/Aida/Kim's) face very pretty, and I usually don't go for round faces. However round face is a very vague term, I admit.No, not this Claudia / Kim / Aida.
Its another girl.
Four hours with a customer followed by another long room it can't possibly be the same girl; did she give up drinking coffee?
This Claudia sounds a gem, thank you for the report Tuber19.Another positive experience with Claudia here too. Small, thin, black hair, kinda impish, lots of tattoos, one of an orange-bluish feather near her collarbone? If it matters (and I think it does nowadays) -- I went with her for an hour.
ExpatLover
01-29-17, 20:01
I was today at Oase from 6:30 pm, met few girls, after 3 days at Sharks I was tired and just wanted to pick one girl, Claudia approached me at 9 PM, I liked her, but I wanted to wait little bit, at 10 PM I was ready and was looking for her but didn't find her, I ate dinner at 11 PM, there was no sign of her so I thought she left, then a girl I know approached me, I like her but I forgot her name, I was with her in room for 35 min as she said (obviously she wanted to charge me an hour) so I stayed with her in the room chatting for about 20 min then I payed her (forgot my watch which was a mistake).
It was about 1 am, I stayed for a while watching the nude girls, I had no plan for another girl, when suddenly I saw Claudia so I went to herand speak with her, we went to the room, I wasent horney but I liked her face and body (9) , I also liked her way of approching which was very good, in the room I told her I'm not in a hurry I want to injoy my time with her. AND damn I did, I really didn't want to leave the room, sex was fantastic and her personality is great, I didn't leave until 4:30 am when the club was closing, and I did asked her where she was around 10 pm so she told me with a customer for 4 hours!! I can see why.
This Claudia is romanian, 22 years old, black hair, round cute face, model body and small boobs.
Although I was disappointed with OASE today, but one girl really makes defferent, she is leaving Germany early Monday. I don't think I will met her on this trip, maybe on my next trip. Just wanted to make oase report because I wanted to mention her.What I really never understand, you spent 3 days at Shark, everybody knows that it is the best LU that it is possible to find nowadays in Germany and after that you visit Oase and obviously you are a little bit disappointed by the LU, may be next time you should first try Oase and after Shark. For me the LU at Oase is far enough to satisfy me I am just looking for sweet soft girls and I don't care about the service I am always able to get something positive from 99% of the girls I go with to the room. For example today in a FKK I choose a girl spent 4 hours with her and she was happy and I was happy just basic extremely good sex no anal or CIM. My favorites girls are doing 0 extra even no deep throat but I always spend great time with them, sex is in the brain and some fantasies should remain as a fantasies no need to try everything.
I was there in the fall of 2014, think it was end of October and perhaps middle of November. LU sucked, despite you hyping it up.
Are you their sales / spokesperson? Are you a shareholder? 😂.I agree, and it didn't start improving again before well into 2015. Not that I visited much in 2015 before in Nov. But I did last year, and talked to the girls when they started. Then it hit a high in July last year 2016. Before a slight downturn again during the fall. But we'll see this year if it gets a new boost due to the new food and entrance policy. Hoping so. Andre is back at least after 9 months 'off'. Lets see who else returns, or which new girls arrive.
ExpatLover; what do you mean by 'no need to try everything'? I personally do try everything that interests me... do you have some dark fantasies you would like to share with us here on the forum? All confidential behind your secret nick ofcourse...
Has anybody remember Alexia ro from last year? A tall brunette, model body, beautiful face with glasses. Always hanging around the smoking area.
Also I heard Brianna from Oase is now at Sharks? On my last visit at Sharks (Saturday 21 of January), I didn't meet her.
By the way, we are a group of 5/6 coming on the week end of February 17 to 20th. If you want to join us on our trip feel free to contact me.
We are between 26 to 39 years old. All from France.
We will probably visit Oase and Shark next.
Another positive experience with Claudia here too. Small, thin, black hair, kinda impish, lots of tattoos, one of an orange-bluish feather near her collarbone? If it matters (and I think it does nowadays) -- I went with her for an hour.Not this one, if you are talking about Kim, which changes her name alot, I was with her and didn't repeat, she looks hot but that's all, no good service no good talk in the room, she wants extras!! Negative experience for me with her.
But the Claudia I wrote about was great since approching before the room, you can see her positive personality even before she talk with you, because she dance and smile alot, actually she is my best experience in FKK by a mile.
PussyLiccker
01-30-17, 07:58
Is the (relatively) new Brunette, tall Beatrice around?
Hi everyone,
Been heavily thinking of visiting Frankfurt for FKK during this Easter as that's the only time I can make it, I've been to Frankfurt quite a few times but never during Easter. Is the lineups really as bad as they say where there are no girls?
Member #4585
01-30-17, 08:39
Is the (relatively) new Brunette, tall Beatrice around?Yes, she is.
Claudia / Aida used to be called Kim at Oase, but I have not checked recently. He described Claudia as a round face, which doesn't sound right, since I find her (Claudia/Aida/Kim's) face very pretty, and I usually don't go for round faces. However round face is a very vague term, I admit.I think she was Kim on end of 2014. Pretty and smiling face, so I went with her. She was smiling and friendly, but just a robot for sex, no woman sensuality. Can compete with Anya claiming to be Russian, but really silicon, for robot behavior.
at Shark, everybody knows that it is the best LU that it is possible to find nowadays in Germany..How many clubs do you visit to find Sharks have the best casting at the moment in Germany? For me, Sharks was on top on 2015 until Summer 2016, but for my last visits, since Mersi. Hu on beginning of September, before she left, only Megan for me. Who are the new beauties? Who are the new Megan, Karin, Rena, Ilka, Carla on April 2015? In smaller clubs, you can find beauties with high GFE level. After 5 November, I wish my very regular to move after her holidays, for a better safety and because her beauty and lightning smile deserve more than 50 € and asking for everything, rooms. And it will be closer to enjoy ski for her.
ExpatLover
01-30-17, 19:46
Hi everyone,
Been heavily thinking of visiting Frankfurt for FKK during this Easter as that's the only time I can make it, I've been to Frankfurt quite a few times but never during Easter. Is the lineups really as bad as they say where there are no girls?For me there's no risk to visit FKK during Eastern, may the LU is a little bit reduced for definitely enough girls to enjoy great dates like this year during Christmas holidays.
Woodypussy1967
01-30-17, 20:55
I will visit FKK Oase after 5 years. Everything has changed. I will probably spend a couple of evenings there again. I would be surprised to see if any of the girls working back in 2011 still work there. I was wondering if you could suggest any good providers offering DFK. DFK is very important for me.
Hi everyone,
Been heavily thinking of visiting Frankfurt for FKK during this Easter as that's the only time I can make it, I've been to Frankfurt quite a few times but never during Easter. Is the lineups really as bad as they say where there are no girls?I was there on last Easter. The LU was not good. For those Romanian girls, Easter is major holiday. Try not come around that time.
Yes, she is.Has your experience been positive? I thought she was very pretty, but I never saw her smiling and was a little wary.
Member #4585
01-31-17, 04:43
Has your experience been positive? I thought she was very pretty, but I never saw her smiling and was a little wary.Beatrice was okay. She was not pushy in any way, she was considerate of her customer and was a decent girl to chat to as well.
She is pretty enough for run of the mill but not a stunner that one must try.
Carla is much cuter and prettier and gives good DFK if you follow her incentive program.
Member #4585
01-31-17, 04:47
I was there on last Easter. The LU was not good. For those Romanian girls, Easter is major holiday. Try not come around that time.This is true, but when you have not much other opportunity to go than at Easter time or rather be in a club than the alternative of being sat at home doing nowt or boning your own then there is no such thing as a bad day in a FKK.
With the Romanians gone you actually have more sight of the non Romanian girls.
Member #4585
01-31-17, 04:50
I will visit FKK Oase after 5 years. Everything has changed. I will probably spend a couple of evenings there again. I would be surprised to see if any of the girls working back in 2011 still work there. I was wondering if you could suggest any good providers offering DFK. DFK is very important for me.Try Maria. Very GFE.
Carla or Laura if you incentivise them. Carla is a really good looker and is small with big boobs on a petite slim frame with long black hair. Usually booked. Laura is cute still but seems to have become haggard.
How many clubs do you visit to find Sharks have the best casting at the moment in Germany? For me, Sharks was on top on 2015 until Summer 2016, but for my last visits, since Mersi. Hu on beginning of September, before she left, only Megan for me. Who are the new beauties? Who are the new Megan, Karin, Rena, Ilka, Carla on April 2015? In smaller clubs, you can find beauties with high GFE level. After 5 November, I wish my very regular to move after her holidays, for a better safety and because her beauty and lightning smile deserve more than 50 and asking for everything, rooms. And it will be closer to enjoy ski for her.And shame on me to forget Alice / Kate who didn't want to return to Sharks after her short April 2016 tour, but got a much better business at Globe, for about 6 tour since then. After her holidays discovering my passion for snow, from my jolie Sara discovered at Mainhattan, moving to become a busy star on last May, June and September at big Sharks, I would be proud, after meeting her for 1 year and half, she also moves to better business she deserves. Just to thank her for many dreams in daylight, starting our day.
For a first timer and 2nd day of my trip after Sharks (report in respective section), I didn't enjoy much at Oase. Should have taken RubMeister100's advice and should have tried Palace. But I changed my mind last minute and wanted to try another big club. LU was just okay, when compared to Sharks on Thu. I would rate 5-7 to most and 8/9 to just one provider.
50 Eur only gets you LFK, BBJ and sex. No DFK and DATY. Included in service by few providers, but not all. 1 hour gets you STD. + Massage, DATY with most. Still didn't get DFK from any. May be I wasn't pushing it too hard and I was OK. Actually I did not feel like doing it to same lips that does BBJ all day. In fact I got better mileage at Sharks prior day.
Loved the jacuzzi, Sauna a Steam room. Much better than Sharks. Restaurant area also very decent and so was the food. Bar worse than Sharks. Bar tender was friendly.
I have a layover in Frankfurt on Sun, Feb 19th and I may end up going to Sharks, but have read several posts on Sharks sundays being worse. RubMeister100's visit to Oase on Sunday was also bad. Out of the two bad LUs at both club, I'll take a chance and may end up visiting Sharks.
And shame on me to forget Alice / Kate who didn't want to return to Sharks after her short April 2016 tour, but got a much better business at Globe, for about 6 tour since then. After her holidays discovering my passion for snow, from my jolie Sara discovered at Mainhattan, moving to become a busy star on last May, June and September at big Sharks, I would be proud, after meeting her for 1 year and half, she also moves to better business she deserves. Just to thank her for many dreams in daylight, starting our day.Huh??
Unintelliglible. I think you speak of your feelings. Please tell it to your psychiatrist.
ExpatLover
01-31-17, 20:36
How many clubs do you visit to find Sharks have the best casting at the moment in Germany? For me, Sharks was on top on 2015 until Summer 2016, but for my last visits, since Mersi. Hu on beginning of September, before she left, only Megan for me. Who are the new beauties? Who are the new Megan, Karin, Rena, Ilka, Carla on April 2015? In smaller clubs, you can find beauties with high GFE level. After 5 November, I wish my very regular to move after her holidays, for a better safety and because her beauty and lightning smile deserve more than 50 and asking for everything, rooms. And it will be closer to enjoy ski for her.Since 1 month visited 20 FKK and really was at Shark last Saturday from 11 to 6 PM and the LU was just great, many newcomers mostly from Romania, some quite young but also some around 25 YO.
I will visit FKK Oase after 5 years. Everything has changed. I will probably spend a couple of evenings there again. I would be surprised to see if any of the girls working back in 2011 still work there. I was wondering if you could suggest any good providers offering DFK. DFK is very important for me.Ha Ha. You should recognise quite a few girls, that have been there well over 5 years. I can't really say I am sessioning many girls from 5 years plus though. I could still do Crina or Diana (Dom). Other girls you might remember are Louisa (Morocco), Kim (Thai), Elena (maybe less than 5 years), Jennifer (via Madrid), Amelia, Anna, Ivana, Roxanne, Jenny, Donna, etc. Just some that come to mind, with many others not occurring to me right this second.
I think she was Kim on end of 2014. Pretty and smiling face, so I went with her. She was smiling and friendly, but just a robot for sex, no woman sensuality. Can compete with Anya claiming to be Russian, but really silicon, for robot behavior.I don't know why you would mention Anya so often, maybe its 30 times to date (without having counted), since it is a negative comment repeated ad nauseum, and not relevant. The "record is very stuck" or Anya is stuck in your brain in a bad way. Most of us do not care that she is not Russian. At least it is relevant to Oase, but not to the Claudia topic. Why not save it for when when that particular girl is discussed? I don't go dumping shit on selected particular girls for all eternity. It's not necessary.
Perhaps Beffen's point about too much emotional feelings, is valid too, even if we ignored the jumbled English. Dispassionate relevant information is appreciated more. Some of us do think of making an effort to not keep waffling on and on, and try to make posts of some use.
It is less irritating, to me at least, if you moderately often mentioned Oase girls you liked a lot. We don't want to hear too much detail about Kate here, too regularly, as she was never in Oase. That would be better in the Globe thread. The girls that work or worked at Oase should dominate the posts here, right?
I am not even sure the guy originally posting about Claudia, was referring to the same Kim / Claudia / Aida girl, since the name Claudia was being used, it seems unlikely, but I don't know if there is match for some other reason.
Since 1 month visited 20 FKK and really was at Shark last Saturday from 11 to 6 PM and the LU was just great, many newcomers mostly from Romania, some quite young but also some around 25 YO.You visited 20 different clubs in a month? At the moment I visit only 4 clubs, 2 in NRW and 2 in Switzerland and I have too many attractive, really pretty, GFE girls to meet. On Saturday 17 December, only about 20 girls at History, but 5 were really attractive, I regret for Amelia. When my Sharks regular will start elsewhere, being safe from some guys about me, and when I will stop with some girls, then I will have to give a look with my eyes at new Sharks casting, which was not good for me for my last visits, but of course times can change. But do we all have same eyes? I just know many beauties left, at least 10 girls I met in 2016 , left and when some tell me why, they deserve better clients.
Since 1 month visited 20 FKK and really was at Shark last Saturday from 11 to 6 PM and the LU was just great, many newcomers mostly from Romania, some quite young but also some around 25 YO.20 different FKKs in 1 month? Are you trying to hit a record? Or are you dual nicking with that guy advertising for fkk tours? lol
Siri: Do you know many FKK girls that take days of to go skiing? I spoke to a few that did when they were young, but nowadays most tell me they don't have the time. 😐
Woodypussy1967
02-01-17, 09:19
Try Maria. Very GFE.
Carla or Laura if you incentivise them. Carla is a really good looker and is small with big boobs on a petite slim frame with long black hair. Usually booked. Laura is cute still but seems to have become haggard.Thank you for your answer. Appreciate. How can I recognize Maria?
Woodypussy1967
02-01-17, 09:21
Ha Ha. You should recognise quite a few girls, that have been there well over 5 years. I can't really say I am sessioning many girls from 5 years plus though. I could still do Crina or Diana (Dom). Other girls you might remember are Louisa (Morocco), Kim (Thai), Elena (maybe less than 5 years), Jennifer (via Madrid), Amelia, Anna, Ivana, Roxanne, Jenny, Donna, etc. Just some that come to mind, with many others not occurring to me right this second.Really? Are they still working? Their pussies will not be as tight as before. Hehe! I will give them a try.
20 different FKKs in 1 month? Are you trying to hit a record? Or are you dual nicking with that guy advertising for fkk tours? lol
Siri: Do you know many FKK girls that take days of to go skiing? I spoke to a few that did when they were young, but nowadays most tell me they don't have the time. 😐She was on holidays in January until end of this week. She heard me so many times about how I enjoy my passion, seeing my injuries, saying why don't you stop? If it s so painful and dangerous, but seeing me returning many times to my white love. So, she went to try. More and better snow in Romania than lack in France, Italy and Switzerland. Free riding will be risky on rocks this Winter. No free riding for her. I'm happy she enjoyed her holidays and discovered ski, before discovering a new place for business.
Really? Are they still working? Their pussies will not be as tight as before. Hehe! I will give them a try.Yes, you should! Sandpaper is good for Woody treatment I hear. After so many years I recon you may start out max rough, and work your way down the scale? lol 😃
Butt fucked three tutes at FKK Oase:
1. Natasha- 31 year-old dark-haired Romanian with really expressive eyes and a tender butt hole. Also a great cocksucker with plenty spit and slobber just like I like it. Smashed her in the butt with her laying flat on her stomach telling me to fuck her in the ass!
2. Isabella. Dyed redhead with a ton of energy. In her early 20's she told me, and yet another girl (claimed Hungary) who seemed to get off from spitting on my dick! She came on to me harder than anybody has done in a long, long time. In the end couldn't resist her and that gorgeous face, so chose to session. The session was good, but she pissed me off with her hard upselling though. I think harder than anybody ever has before in the room with me. She wanted to charge extra for kissing or for sticking fingers up pussies and assholes (hers or mine). I wasn't down with that, so declined (we did light DFK and kiss on the lips throughout the session). But then when it came time for anal, she changed the fucking price and said she wanted 150 euros versus 100 since my dick was big. WTF? There I was ready to go in, and she pulls that kind of shit on me? Pissed me off, but decided to dig up in her anus any way. Isabella demanded that I fuck her in her "dirty ass" as she put it, and I obliged!
At the same time, I decided to forego CIM since the total cost would have been too high. I pay no more than 250 euros for a single hour-long session with extras. That's my limit. When the session was over, I informed the front desk about what Isabella did, but nothing happened. I got her back though. When I was in Isabella's asshole missionary-style, I grabbed her by the top of her fucking head for extra leverage and buggered her asshole silly! She didn't like me grabbing her head like that (and messing up her hair LOL), but I didn't give a shit. I didn't like her "going rogue" and raising the price for anal like that either! When I busted in Isabella's butt, the session was essentially over. She said I had really nailed her good, and spread her butt cheeks open while on all fours to show me her gaped butt hole in the mirror. Figured if she's going to overcharge, then I better damn well get my money's worth!
3. Gina. Dyed blond Romanian of 18 years-old with a good attitude, and the tightest puss and ass I've had the pleasure of penetrating in quite some time (tight, tight, tight, tight! Besides taking this Oase Gina in the butt missionary style, she gave me a decent massage. That is, after taking my sperm into her willing and waiting mouth. She said it was only her second day at Oase, and that she had not done CIM yet. Well, if that's true, then I was her first! Did I say how tight this girl's pussy and ass is? Damn near needed a crowbar to pry her shit open!
I almost chose beautiful blonde Roxana, but her attitude didn't seem quite right. Like she was going to rush me once in the room or something. I declined, and afterwards saw her leave with this Asian guy. I timed their session just to see when Roxana would come back to the main room. She was back in 20 minutes! Yep, a short changer and a clock watcher it looks like. Be wary of Roxana at Oase and Isabella too! Actually, I saw Roxana and her good looking friend go with this other guy for a threesome, and I swear to God seemed like they were finished in just 15 minutes!
She was on holidays in January until end of this week. She heard me so many times about how I enjoy my passion, seeing my injuries, saying why don't you stop? If it s so painful and dangerous, but seeing me returning many times to my white love. So, she went to try. More and better snow in Romania than lack in France, Italy and Switzerland. Free riding will be risky on rocks this Winter. No free riding for her. I'm happy she enjoyed her holidays and discovered ski, before discovering a new place for business.Hi guys,
I was just wondering if somebody remember the short hair Olivia coming from Poland. She was always sitting with polish girls, and blue eyes. She worked there surely in 2010 and beginning 2011. Anybody remembers or know if she is still at Oase?
I was just wondering if somebody remember the short hair Olivia coming from Poland. She was always sitting with polish girls, and blue eyes. She worked there surely in 2010 and beginning 2011. Anybody remembers or know if she is still at Oase?I remember of a Polish Olivia she was at Oase between 2009 and 2011, she came together with Dagamara and another Polish girl from Colloseum and stayed more than a year at Oase. But her hair wasn't short. It was half long brunette and later blonde. Olivia was together with Dagmara a fav of me. Girls this level (optic, behavior and sex level) are nowadays very difficult to find. Olivia left Oase and was than shortly in 5 E. In 2014 Olivia returned for some weeks back to Oase. That was last time I've seen or heard about her. Somewhere are even some pictures from Olivia from website of 5 E and on Oase website Oliva is still on picture 61and 63, the left, blonde girl.
I remember of a Polish Olivia she was at Oase between 2009 and 2011, she came together with Dagamara and another Polish girl from Colloseum and stayed more than a year at Oase. But her hair wasn't short. It was half long brunette and later blonde. Olivia was together with Dagmara a fav of me. Girls this level (optic, behavior and sex level) are nowadays very difficult to find. Olivia left Oase and was than shortly in 5 E. In 2014 Olivia returned for some weeks back to Oase. That was last time I've seen or heard about her. Somewhere are even some pictures from Olivia from website of 5 E and on Oase website Oliva is still on picture 61 and 63, the left, blonde girl.Thank you. Well on the pic of Oase it could be here. I remember a tattoo somewhere. When I know her she had short platinum blonde hair so I cannot recognize her. Sorry I cannot find the pic of the 5 E. Where should I check?
ExpatLover
02-03-17, 08:37
Butt fucked three tutes at FKK Oase:
1. Natasha- 31 year-old dark-haired Romanian with really expressive eyes and a tender butt hole. Also a great cocksucker with plenty spit and slobber just like I like it. Smashed her in the butt with her laying flat on her stomach telling me to fuck her in the ass!
2. Isabella. Dyed redhead with a ton of energy. In her early 20's she told me, and yet another girl (claimed Hungary) who seemed to get off from spitting on my dick! She came on to me harder than anybody has done in a long, long time. In the end couldn't resist her and that gorgeous face, so chose to session. The session was good, but she pissed me off with her hard upselling though. I think harder than anybody ever has before in the room with me. She wanted to charge extra for kissing or for sticking fingers up pussies and assholes (hers or mine). I wasn't down with that, so declined (we did light DFK and kiss on the lips throughout the session). But then when it came time for anal, she changed the fucking price and said she wanted 150 euros versus 100 since my dick was big. WTF? There I was ready to go in, and she pulls that kind of shit on me? Pissed me off, but decided to dig up in her anus any way. Isabella demanded that I fuck her in her "dirty ass" as she put it, and I obliged!..After 15 years and several hundred of FKK visits I never went 1 time to the reception to complain, I am not sure that the girl can t charge what she wants for the extras knowing that it is clearly stated in all FKK that the girls are independent workers so they can also price what they want.
Hessen Bub
02-03-17, 13:12
Craiova: It's a different Olivia.
This one was blonde with long hair and did work at Atlantis in 2004, always hanging out with Polish Oase Victoria who now is at GoldenTime. Then she moved to World, quit the job and returned in 2010/11 for a short stint with short hair. Great session. But she left the business again years ago; so no, you will not find her at Oase.
HB.
After 15 years and several hundred of FKK visits I never went 1 time to the reception to complain, I am not sure that the girl can t charge what she wants for the extras knowing that it is clearly stated in all FKK that the girls are independent workers so they can also price what they want.It was more about when and how she did it that annoyed me. I went ahead with it because I am such butt fucker and could still remain within my budget for the session. Four girls so far this trip and three of them butt fucked. Not a bad average so far! How long can this anal rampage last? We shall see!
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