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Then do not come.
You can read what others write and make your own decision. It's your money and your trip. You decide that.
You don't need to be impolite and knock what others write.Like "he who shall not be named", he attacks other people's informative reporting and then calls it "Fake News. " What do you expect?
About Madi ex History. Ch, impossible to miss her big tattoo between silicon tits. She was a great GF at History for 149 CHF for 45 mn for our 3 rooms on December 2016, I left the room after 15 mn at Oase, refusing to pay 50 extra for kissing. Kissing is the way I judge how girls like me, from how they kiss me, some are passionate, so, if I have to pay extra, then girl doesn't interest me.Tattoo is a bit below, between her silicon tits. She was dark blond, model body.
ExpatLover
01-23-18, 20:49
I am a big fan of Oase, but my last set of visits was disapointing, I guess many girls not back from vacation yet. I know when it's not too crowded the girls have to upsell more to get their money's worth.
Tanya: good looking blonde, and good skills in the room, except stops to upsell every few minutes. Big turn off. She did try to upsell for BBBJ instead of CBJ which I didn't agree. It's probably my fault for staying in the room, either way no repeat.
Maria: before getting in the room, she casually says "for one hour it's 500 euros". So I politely declined. I am pretty sure I can get a high calibre escort at my hotel for less than that.
Not sure why the club asks you every time when you enter "do you know the prices" if so many girls don't follow the club prices. Either way, maybe isolated incidents, but two sessions in two days you can guess the LU was not so good. Will see next time.I need to confirm what you state, yes the LU is quite good optically but I tried in the last days some new girls and need to admit that service and up sell were always there, impossible for me to get any GFE even for 1 hour room, also even the girls are looking sexy most of them have a weak body because they are mother or just around 30 or more years old, or doing 0 sport. Overall the LU is not fresh enough for my taste under unfortunately there was not 1 new sexy girl there even in my 6 last visits. Most of the girls have many years in the P6 and are really lacking on sensibility, too pro, too mechanical fuck me and pay me a lot. Spoke today with some senior German mongers they are exactly on line with me and advice me to visit FKK ROM, it seems service is far better there and not so much upsell.
A few names of the among 110- 130 girls observed lately:
Adina.
Alexa (model mit brille).
Alexa (Ro / Thai).
Alice / Alyss1 (young, slim, pretty eyes / face).
Alice / Alyss2.
Aliona.
Amanda.
Amira.
Amy.
Ariana.
Add Alina (with red hair) to the list unless she's actually one of the others.
No Asians around when I was there. Are they victims of registration requirements?
ExpatLover
01-23-18, 21:46
Add Alina (with red hair) to the list unless she's actually one of the others.
No Asians around when I was there. Are they victims of registration requirements?Probably they don t want to register knowing that the risk exist for the future if you find a normal job that your employer could access to some information about your previous status as prostitute. The Asian girls want to protect from this, the Romanian girls don t care just because only few of them will ever get a normal job in Germany, most of them are prostitutes for many years and don't want and can t get a normal job. At Oase recently only a young girl from Jamaica, not attractive at all, with a very unhealthy skin, I will never be able to go in the room with her. Also the Asian girl is no more at world. In the clubs since beginning of January only veteran German girls and the crowd of Romanian girls with poor to average service level. Shark still 3 black women including yesterday a top model one.
Member #4585
01-23-18, 21:50
No Asians around when I was there. Are they victims of registration requirements?Are you sure?
I did not think EU are stopping Asians coming to Germany. If EU did then I am sure a few of the FKK clubs will go out of business for lack of customers particularly Oase.
Member #4585
01-23-18, 21:51
Like "he who shall not be named", he attacks other people's informative reporting and then calls it "Fake News. " What do you expect?I expect nothing more from a bad mannered person such as he.
I was suggesting the Asian girls were the ones that decided that it's time to call it a day when they need to register. Presumably they are German residents.
Are you sure?
I did not think EU are stopping Asians coming to Germany. If EU did then I am sure a few of the FKK clubs will go out of business for lack of customers particularly Oase.
Rogue Nation
01-24-18, 10:12
Are you sure?
I did not think EU are stopping Asians coming to Germany. If EU did then I am sure a few of the FKK clubs will go out of business for lack of customers particularly Oase.Asians have to comply with EU work regulations to be able to work here. Nothing changed in the last 10 years.
You guys sound so shill. LOL. This thread sounds like it's turning into a promotional thread.Actually I disagree. The FKK threads are the most informative in all of ISG and Oase is no different.
BadinSweet
01-24-18, 19:17
I would like to add Adele to your list.
Thanks Shark16 for the list. Not sure which day you were there but I don't think there were 110-130 when I visited (Ortos can confirm since he was also there).
Yes, Adele is back for maybe 2 weeks now (currently out with some dude).
I would also add Antonia (back two weeks now), Mira, Sugi, and Anna just got back yesterday.
Thanks Shark16 for the list. Not sure which day you were there but I don't think there were 110-130 when I visited (Ortos can confirm since he was also there).You're welcome. Neither were there 110- 130 girls on any day I visited (I did not say that), but if you add up you'll get there. I was there several days. Every day is a little bit different with new girls in attendance that adds up.
Generally speaking I don't think we should expect more than 50- 70 girls on any weekday or 70- 100 girls on the weekends. And that is at peak times. Holiday season may see less; some exhibiton days may see more.
There are definitively more girls I cannot name (60- 80) than girls I was able to list (50).
I may mix Mira with Amira. Sugi can possibly be my "Donna #1"?
Is Sugi, long time Suginella who was pretty in 2014/2015, but put big fat on ass later? She was friend with white skin Roxana, when they were fresh and pretty. Both could be good in bed.
I may mix Mira with Amira. Sugi can possibly be my "Donna #1"?Don't know if it is the same girl. But I just know an Amina. She has a tattoo saying 'Deniz'.
Member #4585
01-25-18, 01:33
Ortos,
I also have experience of Vera.
The deal is 50 is suck and fuck basic, once you come out you go.
If you want kiss with suck and fuck then that is one hour and total cost is 150.
Firm body, light up turned nose, adequate looks, black hair.
BadinSweet
01-25-18, 02:25
Siri, yes, that same Suginella. I also found her attractive back then but I have never been with her.
Shark16, we maybe talking about different Mira. The one I am referring to is short Romanian. She hangs out with Adele and Carla (they are actually living together).
There was also a blonde Mira at about 165-168. Claimed to be Ukrainian and had been to Sakura. Very pretty. She was booked all night when I saw her, so I didn't get to make a better inspection however.
Has anybody seen Nika lately? The German one with tattoo saying abdel.
ExpatLover
01-25-18, 16:22
Has anybody seen Nika lately? The German one with tattoo saying abdel.Not see her the last weeks, possible that she will be there from tomorrow it seems that there is a big fair starting and some girls even came from Samya.
ExpatLover
01-25-18, 21:04
Spent my whole day at oase (still there), thanks to free internet can report. Great LU due to the fair most probably, tried new girls but what a upselling never saw that in all my FKK career. Despite many efforts it was impossible to session a nice girl for 50 euros, only the less attractive accepted it. All the girls are asking 100 euros for 30 minutes. Some new girls coming from Samya for the fair. The management has to regain the control of the girls and not to let them refusing Cústomers for a basic 50 euros session.
Shark16, we maybe talking about different Mira. The one I am referring to is short Romanian. She hangs out with Adele and Carla (they are actually living together).No. My bad. This short blackhaired girl is exactly the girl I am talking about. My apoligies to Mira for spelling her name incorrectly.
Pistons,
Sorry, I do not know your blond Mira.
Nice report Be Wilder. I also find Beatrice very attractive. Not sure why she is not too busy. I was in Oase a few Sundays ago. It was a buyer market. Even Lara / Laura was not so busy. I had sessions with:
Anna - small ROM, dark hair, beautiful brown eyes, perky A / be, I find her attractive but for some reason she said Asian doesn't go with her. Weird, as I thought she would fit the profile. I hit it off really well with her and if my regular at Oase is not careful, she will leap over them.
Lara/Laura - I have been with her before and the session was good. Normally our timing does not always line up but this time she was freely available, all night. Had a passionate session with her.
Ada - ROM, somewhat tall, very fit, skinny body, A cup. It's funny, Lara actually dragged her to come talk to me and introduced her to me. Had a nice time with her.
I wanted to take Vicky and promised her I would take her before she leaves, which is normally around 10 pm. But I was with Anna from 7-9 pm. By the time I was out, I didn't see her until around 9:45 pm where she was in street clothes leaving the club..I'm planning a trip during the middle of February. Anyone seen Ada lately?
ExpatLover
01-26-18, 09:24
Ortos,
I also have experience of Vera.
The deal is 50 is suck and fuck basic, once you come out you go.
If you want kiss with suck and fuck then that is one hour and total cost is 150.
Firm body, light up turned nose, adequate looks, black hair.We should not accept to pay for kissing in a 1 hour session, prices are going sharply up since the new law and service is going down, we senior monger should be strict on that front, the only extra to be paid is anal and CIM all the rest have to be included.
After almost 2 years I was again a few days in the neighbourhood and so it was time again to visit this club. I have never been before on a Friday and am not completely convinced this is the best night to go. Sure there is more choice of girls on a night like this, but the overkill on men is ruining the view I also noticed since last time, way more man are walking around with their cellphone which is not a good sign and especially in the relaxing room it is very annoying. But on the other hand the whirpool is still warm and the sauna was very good and very hot, so there is still some good spots to relax in this club.
I have spend in total about 3,5 hours in the club and had 2 times fun with a lady on a room. First punt was with an Italian girl from Milan from whom I forgot the name. Not a very special punt, but effective to release some first pressure.
After some more relaxing I went back into the bar and after declining some woman I met with Jenny.
Jenny is a small spicy bulgarian woman*who got me very quickly interested and in the mood. We ended up on a sofa in the Kino and had a little talk and play. She is very clear in her options and does not like upselling which is def a pre.
Her options were pretty straight forward: €50,- half an hour standard, €100 half an hour with everything you can imagine.
Not a hard choice so I choosed the latter.
Jenny is a real porno animal and likes sloppy DFK and lots of position changes and options. She let you do all you want to her and the best moment was while pounding her nice ass in doggy having a finger up in her ass and the other one pulling her hair.
She told me from the beginning CIM was an option and this felt like the best way to end a session like this. She really drained me and I needed a few moments to gain energy again afterwards. The only downside for finishing this way, is that she turns around and starts spitting and gagging into the bin, which is a bit of a mood killer. But overall a very satisfying punt.
After this last punt I left the club around 1 am.
It is still an expensive club, and it takes some effort to work your way around all the girls, but if you dare to say no a few times it is mostly possible to find a good punt every time.
Her options were pretty straight forward: 50,- half an hour standard, 100 half an hour with everything you can imagine.Of the 11 sessions I had in Oase in January she was the absolute worst of them all. It must have been three years and 100+ sessions since I had such a bad experience at Oase!! Jenni is a notorious upseller. I guess it just shows how different we as gents are. :)
My experience:
50 E: She refuses DFK and DATY. Only CBJ/CFS.
100 E /60: She allows DFK, but refuses DATY, lacks enthusiasm, and her upselling for DATY/CIM is annoying.
100 E /30 or 150 E /60: Now she is all smiles and promise DFK / DATY / BJ / CIM / fingering "everywhere" (reminds me of my last Palace visit when I left unpopped, except CIM would have been another 50E extra at Palace of course). Of course no anal. I did not partake in this "offer".
Seriously, I am not sure why I went with her. Normally I don't go with girls that overweight. But I must admit she has a certain sexiness walking around.
I will NOT repeat. Ever.
p.s. Jenni must not be confused with Janey, Bul (Angus' "great find" from way back), who is still around.
O I guess it just shows how different we as gents are. Haha yes luckily we are, so that there is almost always an option for everybody.
Probably you are partly right that she just wants to have at least €100 for 30 minutes to be happy and it is a form of upselling, but I like that it is clear from the beginning, I hate upselling in the room. The first girl I asked 2 times before if she kisses on the room, she says yes, and then on the room she says no. Only for 50 eur extra for just kissing.
Jenni did offer me also anal for the 100 eur 30 min package. Maybe my dick was the right size for her.
but I like that it is clear from the beginning, I hate upselling in the room.IME she is NOT very clear before going to the room and is notoriosly upselling in the room unless you go for her 100 E /30 "offer". Oh man, she was awful.
But if she takes 30 mnts straight anal pounding for that price, I may reconsider. LOL.
Seriously, you could have done A LOT better at Oase.
Thanks for the discussion. This thread desperately needs more girl reviews.
ExpatLover
01-28-18, 12:59
Haha yes luckily we are, so that there is almost always an option for everybody.
Probably you are partly right that she just wants to have at least 100 for 30 minutes to be happy and it is a form of upselling, but I like that it is clear from the beginning, I hate upselling in the room. The first girl I asked 2 times before if she kisses on the room, she says yes, and then on the room she says no. Only for 50 eur extra for just kissing.
Jenni did offer me also anal for the 100 eur 30 min package. Maybe my dick was the right size for her.Oase management is unable to get any kind of control of the price policy implemented by the veteran prostitutes from Roumania, this week there are several fairs in frankfurt therefor absolutely not the right time to get a good balance between price and service. Oase is very close to become the new palace, expensive, unrespectful behavior from numerous girls and Oase is mostly targeting visitors from abroad mostly asian one.
Massimo Potente
01-28-18, 23:59
Shark16, we maybe talking about different Mira. The one I am referring to is short Romanian. She hangs out with Adele and Carla (they are actually living together).Could you maybe describe what Carla looks like? I remember a Carla in Oase and she was one of my top sessions in Germany ever and one of the most beautiful girls ever, although, she is a bit short.
Could you maybe describe what Carla looks like? I remember a Carla in Oase and she was one of my top sessions in Germany ever and one of the most beautiful girls ever, although, she is a bit short.It was a time when there were three Carlas at Oase. Only one left now, and that's the most beautiful one IMO. A clear optical highlight at Oase. Also a decent session IME (in a 60 mnts booking):
Early 20's, short, slim, long brown hair. Very beautiful face / eyes. Her most remarkable feature is her amazingly pointy B/C-cups. Fun personality. Good smile. Always cheering up the other girls.
She's been around 3- 4 years at Oase, I think. Last observation this very month.
(Ericarla, known for superb service, is out of business AFAIK. Carla the tits (with average service if I am nice) went to Palace a couple of years ago and I dont know her whereabouts right now).
p.s. Thanks a lot for your contribution in the Vienna thread. Very helpful and much appreciated.
Member #4585
01-29-18, 00:23
This thread desperately needs more girl reviews.Hang on. I have a report on the way.
Member #4585
01-29-18, 00:41
My experience:
50 E: She refuses DFK and DATY. Only CBJ/CFS.
100 E /60: She allows DFK, but refuses DATY, lacks enthusiasm, and her upselling for DATY/CIM is annoying.
100 E /30 or 150 E /60: Now she is all smiles and promise DFK / DATY / BJ / CIM / fingering "everywhere" (reminds me of my last Palace visit when I left unpopped, except CIM would have been another 50E extra at Palace of course). Of course no anal. I did not partake in this "offer".Sharks16,
Your experiences with Jenni from Bulgaria is similar to mine of Vera from Romania to whom also Ortos has had experience of.
Half hour for 50 euro session is frowned upon. You will be the most basic of services which may be CBK and CFS.
In a half hour session you need to pay 100 euros for DFK and for more happiness then its 150 euro for a 1 hour session.
Vera does look good with an upturned nose and dark hair, firm young body and perky breasts. There was no sale from my perspective. We still stay in contact.
Member #4585
01-29-18, 00:42
I am driving to Oase. I am thinking that there is WiFi there. I don't know why fully why Wifi is a draw for a club but it is.
I arrived at FKK Oase late on Friday night. The car park was semi full and I managed to find a car park on the upper level and not at the car park near the Oase building entrance. There was an electric feeling in the air for me. You could see the lit up Roman style statutes, the back lit signs of scantily clad women with FKK Oase logos.
My entrance fee to Oase was paid by prepaid card which works out at 46.67 euro per entry regardless of time of entry. Still beats the 50 euro entry before 4 pm Oase entry deal by 3. 33 euros which is a saving of 6.67% on the 50 euro and 23.33 euro (33.3%) saving on the normal 70 euros entrance. Compare this to the 950 euros for 20 entries deal at Sharks where it is 17.50 euros (26.9%) discount on the 65 euros normal entry.
Upon entering Oase I see what for me is a fucking amazing line up. I am here to see my German friends who say that when there is the overlap between the day time and night time shift there is over 100 girls here. Many day time girls start to leave just before 10 pm though.
Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays in Hessen FKK clubs can be really busy. Girls get booked up and become unavailable. Many girls may work midweek but skip the Thursday as a free day since they are saving their energy for the weekend from Friday to Sunday. This is where some ISG members coin the term shit Thursdays in the clubs.
So there will be competition for the girls now as its Friday.
I tell my friend who is at Sharks that he has to come to Oase. He says he may come to Oase later on another day. He is content at Sharks.
The Oase Girls are freely giving couch time. There are a lot of girls. Blondes, Brunettes, and a few red heads. There is enough for everyone.
I am hungry. I said to my friend all his talk of Doner Kebap has made me hungry.
I want a Doner Kebap from my favorite busy downtown RLD Doner Kebap shop. I have been on a vegetable diet the last few days with a tiny amount of meat. All I ate today is vegetables (fresh cucumber, sauerkraut cabbage, pickled cauliflower, peppers and celery) and 3 chocolate biscuits. Not the best diet for a monger. My mind though is set. It is pussy first and Doner Kebap for later.
After changing and showering I go into the lounge area and I meet my German friends. They are using their phones in the Kino area since phone use is allowed since everyone seems to be using their phone. So I get my phone to check up on things.
The DJ is right behind us and is taking requests from the Turkish and French boys from the suburbs of Paris. There are bottles of alcohol for all the Turkish and young suburban Paris French.
I am having a good time at Oase. My German group of friends are looking after me and giving me their insight into the line-up on which girls are up-sellers and which girls are good feed-back and which girls are so so for service. The Germans are like a piece of the furniture as they are in the clubs several times a week. The girls give them hours and hours of free couch time with no expectation of going to the room.
The ever popular Carla is booked all night by a corporate looking late middle aged American. But still she ran over to me to kiss me and say Hello, and talk to me for a bit.
Roaming among the girls making greetings I am coping so many free feels and couch time with girls. Being at Oase reminds me what this is all about. It is about fun and interesting times with naked girls.
I am freer in my mind now after the day at work earlier.
Fuck.
So I am ready to pounce.
I am seeing Blondes everywhere: slim ones, cute ones and average sized ones.
So I see Adele. She blows me an air kiss. Then goes to a fucking another man!
I see my target girl. I like her and she remembers a lot about me. Fuck. I make eye contact with her and as she walks in my direction then a man from across the lounge comes running up to nab her intercepting her before she gets near me. She goes with him to give the man extended couch time in the non-smoking couch area where the Asians have set up their court. It is what she does couch time. She is relaxed as it leads to business.
While I am frustrated sitting on a couch, a pretty slim girl with dirty blonde hair lies on me and she lets me fondle her for 20 minutes and then at the end gives me a kiss and says thank you for relaxing her saying I am the man with the magic touch. Last time I had naked girls in a line on the couch where I had to straddle their bare naked asses with my cock out resting on them giving massages. Guys were giving me the thumbs up for getting my cock on girls' asses and being able to pull their ass cheeks apart to see their pussy and assholes in all their glory.
I go see a blonde that looks like cute blonde Cosmina who used to work at FKK Sharks. Fuck. She rushes pass me since she only has eyes for old Turks. There is a whole couch of old Turkish men are taking turns fucking her.
Cool atmosphere. There is even a German guy has bought a drum kit into the club and is drumming with sticks on his kit as all the girls are dancing around him. It is party town. I mean this guy has a drum kit with stand with several drum panels. He has drumming gloves and has his robe sleeves rolled up. He is adding to the party atmosphere with the girls raising their hands in the air.
I see some of the men that shower cash on the girls who dance for them. These guys can dump between 100 to 1,000 euros on Oase girls to dance for them. It is cool to see. This show and the focus is about the man and not the girls. The eyes of both men and girls are on what the man is doing and there is so much interest in these men afterwards and for their subsequent visits. The girls continue to talk about the men who shower cash on the girls for dancing. They discuss their likes and dislikes. It is good to hear what the girls think.
As an alternative and it is not the same thing, is this 60 year old German man who is able to drum and you have the whole floor up dancing and the girls giving him attention since he is livening the party and having the time of his life. These are just two different ways of getting noticed by the girls.
My German friends are just smoking and smoking. Smoking is cheap in Germany.
I am bored.
I ate dinner in the Oase restaurant comprising of Fried fish, grilled lamb chops, cooked vegetables and chips.
Then since I am bored I order the special pizza from the bar man. The special pizza comprises of ham, salami, mushroom and onion. I don't need it. I am bored. I eat it all and even have a chips entre.
I eat when I am bored. Not good.
I need a girl bad to satisfy my hard on.
The Asians and Turks have all the girls. All the girls are going to these men ignoring the locals.
Incognito is here too. A man has booked her for hours and gave her several yellow 200 euros notes in payment. I guess he did not have anything smaller like green 100 euro or orange 50 euro notes.
It is getting late so I say to myself, "Do what feels right. You want only half hours then do half hours. ".
For me I tend towards the one hour bookings as I like to do all sorts of sex acts with a girl. It makes the booking memorable.
I found out later on that the petite bob haired blonde Cosmina look alike is called Eileen. She was nice to me when I asked her, "What was name?" She let me fondle her and pat her bare ass. I complimented her on her cute ass. I think she liked that. She will have to wait for next time. There were Germans who took her this time and not Turks or Asians.
Then I see my target girl again. I had been eyeing up this blonde with long straight hair, but she can have her hair in a curly / fuzzy style. She looks better when her hair is straight but I guess this is effort on her part to straighten her hair. She has brown eyes, an average build, pale skin, no tattoos and breasts of be cup size.
I will call her Unnamed. We went for 1 hour room with COB finish paid 150 euros.
Services:
DFK.
BBBJ with deep throat to the base amazing to feel her lips at the base of my cock.
BLS.
Fingering of vagina and anus holes allowed.
Nipple licking on me.
DATY to her orgasm.
All positions allowed including dead doggie with her flat on her stomach.
Allowed multiple tries to come in the time paid for and BBBJ episodes.
I could not come in a condom fucking with Unnamed. I had to wank myself on Unamed's ass and blasted all over her backside. Shit. My shot of come was like a puddle all over her ass which Peter North would be proud of. I got her digits. She has a fetish for certain types. I am back in monger mode. I still got it. I even got her pictures.
No names given for Unnamed due to the Ortos defence here:
I agree, under normal conditions. And I've always provided names with my pre-July '17 posts. But now, naming names would point the finger (and you wouldnt want that, right?) at girls who are in violation of the German Bundes BBBJ Law because, and let it be known here far and wide: I am a huge fan of BBBJ and I don't enter Zimmer with girls who don't. Capisce, Paesano?
I cannot replicate the good work of Sharks16, but this is what I could cobble together of the girls that I saw were.
Adele ro.
Alexa ro,
Beatiful black haired girl that claims she is Russian but is really Romanian.
Carla ro,
Eileen ro,
Unnamed girl I fucked.
Incognito,
Red head, a little bigger, been at Oase a long time.
Vera ro,
After my room with Unnamed and showering it was 4:15 am.
Food was cleaned up by 4 am.
In the main room it was Manele music and it was a merry go round of gypsy dancing with men (including staff) and naked girls dancing in a big circle around the pole.
You never see this at Sharks. You only get this at Oase or World. There is more heart in Oase than mindless commercial oriented Sharks.
Girls ask me to dance with them in the merry go round circle dancing. That was a lovely gesture and so friendly of the girl. I like to dance but I was winded after my one hour fuck with Unnamed.
My German friends had already gone leaving text messages on my phone that they had vacated Oase for their downtown Frankfurt riverside apartments.
I went to find Unnamed and we speak. Unnamed was more interested in me than continuing to work. It was nearly closing time and all the girls were just hanging out for when they can leave the club.
I went home.
At reception they ask that I had to give my wrist band indicating payment of the entry fee back to them but I could I take an orange Oase branded baseball cap and an Oase branded black umbrella.
I could have taken as many hats and umbrellas as I wanted. I was thinking of my friends would want an item of each for them, but I was not sure they would use an Oase baseball cap or Oase umbrella when going into the office. I thought it would be nice to have a cap and umbrella from Oase to go with my other FKK branded items.
So I scored a lot of freebies from Oase for 46.67 euro entry.
When I drove out onto the road I saw that the customers before me had plundered Oase umbrellas and Oase caps and after driving for some kilometers had realised what was emblazoned on the caps and umbrellas and had dumped them unceremoniously in the BHH village along its road. There were orange Oase caps strewn all along the pavement where they had been tossed out the window. You do wonder what the locals think of an internationally famous brothel situated in their midst.
When I got home I sprayed my balls with the anti-fungal spray to protect me from the wicked claw and to keep the vampires from my door.
I then checked my phone to see that Unnamed had been writing me like mad. She wants to see me Saturday and gave me her timetable for the next weeks. She sent me pictures. I am quite taken by Unnamed and she with me.
Fuck!
I told her I was going to Sharks. I am a loser.
The End.
Sharks16
Vera does look good with an upturned nose and dark hair, firm young body and perky breasts. There was no sale from my perspective. We still stay in contact.She did look better as a blonde though.
Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays in Hessen FKK clubs can be really busy. Girls get booked up and become unavailable. Many girls may work midweek but skip the Thursday as a free day since they are saving their energy for the weekend from Friday to Sunday. This is where some ISG members coin the term shit Thursdays in the clubs.Thursdays used to be fine at Oase in the past. It was just shot at sharks due to the cheapskate Wednesday there being busy. I hope it hasn't deteriorated at Oase compared to the other days, as it really used to at least work out well to go to Oase on a Thursday. Makes me wonder if this is related to my semiocre Oase visits the past 8 months. They were Thursday visits.
ExpatLover
01-29-18, 04:48
I am driving to Oase. I am thinking that there is WiFi there. I don't know why fully why Wifi is a draw for a club but it is.
I arrived at FKK Oase late on Friday night. The car park was semi full and I managed to find a car park on the upper level and not at the car park near the Oase building entrance. There was an electric feeling in the air for me. You could see the lit up Roman style statutes, the back lit signs of scantily clad women with FKK Oase logos.
My entrance fee to Oase was paid by prepaid card which works out at 46.67 euro per entry regardless of time of entry. Still beats the 50 euro entry before 4 pm Oase entry deal by 3. 33 euros which is a saving of 6.67% on the 50 euro and 23.33 euro (33.3%) saving on the normal 70 euros entrance. Compare this to the 950 euros for 20 entries deal at Sharks where it is 17.50 euros (26.9%) discount on the 65 euros normal entry.
Upon entering Oase I see what for me is a fucking amazing line up. I am here to see my German friends who say that when there is the overlap between the day time and night time shift there is over 100 girls here. Many day time girls start to leave just before 10 pm though.
Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays in Hessen FKK clubs can be really busy. Girls get booked up and become unavailable. Many girls may work midweek but skip the Thursday as a free day since they are saving their energy for the weekend from Friday to Sunday. This is where some ISG members coin the term shit Thursdays in the clubs.
So there will be competition for the girls now as its Friday.
I tell my friend who is at Sharks that he has to come to Oase. He says he may come to Oase later on another day. He is content at Sharks.
The Oase Girls are freely giving couch time. There are a lot of girls. Blondes, Brunettes, and a few red heads. There is enough for everyone.
I am hungry. I said to my friend all his talk of Doner Kebap has made me hungry.
I want a Doner Kebap from my favorite busy downtown RLD Doner Kebap shop. I have been on a vegetable diet the last few days with a tiny amount of meat. All I ate today is vegetables (fresh cucumber, sauerkraut cabbage, pickled cauliflower, peppers and celery) and 3 chocolate biscuits. Not the best diet for a monger. My mind though is set. It is pussy first and Doner Kebap for later.
After changing and showering I go into the lounge area and I meet my German friends. They are using their phones in the Kino area since phone use is allowed since everyone seems to be using their phone. So I get my phone to check up on things.
The DJ is right behind us and is taking requests from the Turkish and French boys from the suburbs of Paris. There are bottles of alcohol for all the Turkish and young suburban Paris French.
I am having a good time at Oase. My German group of friends are looking after me and giving me their insight into the line-up on which girls are up-sellers and which girls are good feed-back and which girls are so so for service. The Germans are like a piece of the furniture as they are in the clubs several times a week. The girls give them hours and hours of free couch time with no expectation of going to the room.
The ever popular Carla is booked all night by a corporate looking late middle aged American. But still she ran over to me to kiss me and say Hello, and talk to me for a bit.
Roaming among the girls making greetings I am coping so many free feels and couch time with girls. Being at Oase reminds me what this is all about. It is about fun and interesting times with naked girls.
I am freer in my mind now after the day at work earlier.
Fuck.
So I am ready to pounce.
I am seeing Blondes everywhere: slim ones, cute ones and average sized ones.
So I see Adele. She blows me an air kiss. Then goes to a fucking another man!
I see my target girl. I like her and she remembers a lot about me. Fuck. I make eye contact with her and as she walks in my direction then a man from across the lounge comes running up to nab her intercepting her before she gets near me. She goes with him to give the man extended couch time in the non-smoking couch area where the Asians have set up their court. It is what she does couch time. She is relaxed as it leads to business.
While I am frustrated sitting on a couch, a pretty slim girl with dirty blonde hair lies on me and she lets me fondle her for 20 minutes and then at the end gives me a kiss and says thank you for relaxing her saying I am the man with the magic touch. Last time I had naked girls in a line on the couch where I had to straddle their bare naked asses with my cock out resting on them giving massages. Guys were giving me the thumbs up for getting my cock on girls' asses and being able to pull their ass cheeks apart to see their pussy and assholes in all their glory.
I go see a blonde that looks like cute blonde Cosmina who used to work at FKK Sharks. Fuck. She rushes pass me since she only has eyes for old Turks. There is a whole couch of old Turkish men are taking turns fucking her.
Cool atmosphere. There is even a German guy has bought a drum kit into the club and is drumming with sticks on his kit as all the girls are dancing around him. It is party town. I mean this guy has a drum kit with stand with several drum panels. He has drumming gloves and has his robe sleeves rolled up. He is adding to the party atmosphere with the girls raising their hands in the air.
I see some of the men that shower cash on the girls who dance for them. These guys can dump between 100 to 1,000 euros on Oase girls to dance for them. It is cool to see. This show and the focus is about the man and not the girls. The eyes of both men and girls are on what the man is doing and there is so much interest in these men afterwards and for their subsequent visits. The girls continue to talk about the men who shower cash on the girls for dancing. They discuss their likes and dislikes. It is good to hear what the girls think.
As an alternative and it is not the same thing, is this 60 year old German man who is able to drum and you have the whole floor up dancing and the girls giving him attention since he is livening the party and having the time of his life. These are just two different ways of getting noticed by the girls.
My German friends are just smoking and smoking. Smoking is cheap in Germany.
I am bored.
I ate dinner in the Oase restaurant comprising of Fried fish, grilled lamb chops, cooked vegetables and chips.
Then since I am bored I order the special pizza from the bar man. The special pizza comprises of ham, salami, mushroom and onion. I don't need it. I am bored. I eat it all and even have a chips entre.
I eat when I am bored. Not good.
I need a girl bad to satisfy my hard on.
The Asians and Turks have all the girls. All the girls are going to these men ignoring the locals.
Incognito is here too. A man has booked her for hours and gave her several yellow 200 euros notes in payment. I guess he did not have anything smaller like green 100 euro or orange 50 euro notes.
It is getting late so I say to myself, "Do what feels right. You want only half hours then do half hours. ".
For me I tend towards the one hour bookings as I like to do all sorts of sex acts with a girl. It makes the booking memorable.
I found out later on that the petite bob haired blonde Cosmina look alike is called Eileen. She was nice to me when I asked her, "What was name?" She let me fondle her and pat her bare ass. I complimented her on her cute ass. I think she liked that. She will have to wait for next time. There were Germans who took her this time and not Turks or Asians.
Then I see my target girl again. I had been eyeing up this blonde with long straight hair, but she can have her hair in a curly / fuzzy style. She looks better when her hair is straight but I guess this is effort on her part to straighten her hair. She has brown eyes, an average build, pale skin, no tattoos and breasts of be cup size.
I will call her Unnamed. We went for 1 hour room with COB finish paid 150 euros.
Services:
DFK.
BBBJ with deep throat to the base amazing to feel her lips at the base of my cock.
BLS.
Fingering of vagina and anus holes allowed.
Nipple licking on me.
DATY to her orgasm.
All positions allowed including dead doggie with her flat on her stomach.
Allowed multiple tries to come in the time paid for and BBBJ episodes.
I could not come in a condom fucking with Unnamed. I had to wank myself on Unamed's ass and blasted all over her backside. Shit. My shot of come was like a puddle all over her ass which Peter North would be proud of. I got her digits. She has a fetish for certain types. I am back in monger mode. I still got it. I even got her pictures.
No names given for Unnamed due to the Ortos defence here:
I cannot replicate the good work of Sharks16, but this is what I could cobble together of the girls that I saw were.
Adele ro.
Alexa ro,
Beatiful black haired girl that claims she is Russian but is really Romanian.
Carla ro,
Eileen ro,
Unnamed girl I fucked.
Incognito,
Red head, a little bigger, been at Oase a long time.
Vera ro,
After my room with Unnamed and showering it was 4:15 am.
Food was cleaned up by 4 am.
In the main room it was Manele music and it was a merry go round of gypsy dancing with men (including staff) and naked girls dancing in a big circle around the pole.
You never see this at Sharks. You only get this at Oase or World. There is more heart in Oase than mindless commercial oriented Sharks.
Girls ask me to dance with them in the merry go round circle dancing. That was a lovely gesture and so friendly of the girl. I like to dance but I was winded after my one hour fuck with Unnamed..Great report but confirming that so many guys are spending huge amount of cash to the girls that I am afraid that those girls are not at all interested in 50 euros session, but I don't care I like sex but I can easily leave any FKK without a session. Mixing party, alcohol and sex is not at all my cup of tea, I like having the head clean and enjoying my time in the room, obviously the girls like when the guys are drunk and spending a lot for no sex. I don't care to have time on the couch, listen all those stupid and cheated things from the girls, none of them will never tell the truth, they just sit with us because the management told them to have social time with the mongers.
Thanks to Bitumenfor a great and very detailed write-up. Interesting how different people see the the same thing in a different way. For example, I personally had a negative reaction to the man with strange percussion set-up. To me, and several girls I spoke with seen to agree very strongly, he was some weirdo-nutcase who made the most obnoxious cacaphony that made it quite unpleasant to sit anywhere near the dance podium. But fair enough if others liked it, but it was really torture for some of us. One girl explained to me he was "a friend of the Boss" and has permission to do this whenever he visits the club.
In your wonderful post, you quote one of my own prior posts from a few weeks ago and call it "the Ortos defense," etc. I just want to clarify that what you quoted was a specific response to another member who was asking why I did not provide girls names in my post about having lots of "old school service" at Oase, and so you quoted me slightly out of context, but I couldn't tell whether you agree with it or if you are poking fun /"taking the Mick" at me and my approach.
Therefore, I wish to stress that it is simply my own personal view, perhaps shared here by some other members, which seems logical to me. But I respect that others might disagree with me and have there own approach to writing posts. In other words I don't want "to own" this defense, I just see it as a logical result to what might be happening more widely.
But thanks again for your great post.
ExpatLover
01-29-18, 09:30
Sharks16,
Your experiences with Jenni from Bulgaria is similar to mine of Vera from Romania to whom also Ortos has had experience of.
Half hour for 50 euro session is frowned upon. You will be the most basic of services which may be CBK and CFS.
In a half hour session you need to pay 100 euros for DFK and for more happiness then its 150 euro for a 1 hour session.
Vera does look good with an upturned nose and dark hair, firm young body and perky breasts. There was no sale from my perspective. We still stay in contact.This is exactly the my main concern 150 euros for 1 hour it is the price I am paying for a 1 hour session with a german student not a prostitute from roumania, a girl who is very happy to meet a man like me, giving me great service impossible to find with a pro of course, and also very interesting to speak with. I am switching more and more to KM just because 150 for a hour in a FKK is too much, never forget that most of the girls are veteran being prostitutes for many years and be sessioned 10000 or 30000 times, impossible for them to compete with german students having 2 or 3 customers a week and other activities that to seat hour and hours in a FKK smoking cigarette after cigarette. Those are not worth 150 for me at least. This is only valid for guys like me looking for GFE.
Of the 11 sessions I had in Oase in January she was the absolute worst of them all. It must have been three years and 100+ sessions since I had such a bad experience at Oase!! Jenni is a notorious upseller. I guess it just shows how different we as gents are. :)
My experience:
50 E: She refuses DFK and DATY. Only CBJ/CFS..Is it the new game at Oase? To improve arithmetic in room rather than enjoying real women who are so rare at Oase. With my little experience in FKK land, girls who behave like real women, usually don't upsell for kissing, DATY, fingers when done with manners, BJ, because it is just normal sex for them, on the other hand, little girls upsell because they don't like kissing, nor losing control on DATY, because pimp ask not to cum. I remember blond Lexi when she started on January 2015, how she lost control on DATY, she was really lost after, for sex.
100/30 mn and 150 for 1 h, is new GFE Oase rate? What Mady who was so great GFE at History Basel Liestal, asked me, so I preferred to leave the room after less than 15 mn, I said I refuse to stay 30 mn with her as she asked, then, after our 3 great rooms at History where she wanted to repeat with me on our first day, when a regular was running after her, he seemed angry in lockers, she didn't want I go with Lorena, she didn't like when Lorena gave me a bit of her diner, at Oase, she said I fucked her mind for the whole day. Later, she smiled again to me, but broken illusion, not anymore interesting for me.
Same with Lucy. De at Palace, but she came to me, as soon she saw me on this Saturday at GT, smiling, kissing, but I didn t go with her, when so many ran after her.
I don't pay, but I judge way to kiss, the most important for me, because the most intimate for girls, even more intimate than swallowing You or fucking her without condom.
Member #4585
01-29-18, 12:53
Thanks to Bitumenfor a great and very detailed write-up. Interesting how different people see the the same thing in a different way. For example, I personally had a negative reaction to the man with strange percussion set-up. To me, and several girls I spoke with seen to agree very strongly, he was some weirdo-nutcase who made the most obnoxious cacaphony that made it quite unpleasant to sit anywhere near the dance podium. But fair enough if others liked it, but it was really torture for some of us. One girl explained to me he was "a friend of the Boss" and has permission to do this whenever he visits the club.
In your wonderful post, you quote one of my own prior posts from a few weeks ago and call it "the Ortos defense," etc. I just want to clarify that what you quoted was a specific response to another member who was asking why I did not provide girls names in my post about having lots of "old school service" at Oase, and so you quoted me slightly out of context, but I couldn't tell whether you agree with it or if you are poking fun /"taking the Mick" at me and my approach.
Therefore, I wish to stress that it is simply my own personal view, perhaps shared here by some other members, which seems logical to me. But I respect that others might disagree with me and have there own approach to writing posts. In other words I don't want "to own" this defense, I just see it as a logical result to what might be happening more widely.
But thanks again for your great post.Hey Ortos,
Thank you for providing your comments.
The German man with the percussion set up I was just providing observation that he had a following of women who were dancing to the beats from the DJ or from him. Whatever the combination there were girls dancing the French were standing up from their couches moving to the beats he made.
As for my quoting of the Ortos defence this is not out of fun but good common sense as you refer to that if the law is such where a man getting uncovered services can be prosecuted and fined then it is best not to self incriminate by saying you had said uncovered services. I thought what you wrote was perfect as an answer to the ones which will ask who was the girl who BBBJ you similar to how you were asked can you provide names. It was totally in respect to you I name your quote as opposed to plagiarising your words.
I hope to make use of the same argument in future as it is the answer that many want is to not name the ones providing the banned services.
Despite new law which can prosecute only clients or clubs, but not prostitutes about services provided, but only about registration, so, most of WGs in German clubs still provide natural BJ. Many at Oase run for CIM for 50 more, then they finish rabbits in 15 mn for 100 , and save their little girl vagina.
Many real women don t provide CIM, but ask You to fuck her, after You drank her juice on DATY.
Real women are more attractive for me than little girls, and most often less expensive, not running for extras. With some, still possible to have great GFE for 100 for 1 hour.
That is perfect, Bitumen. Thanks.
Live long and prosper.
ExpatLover
01-29-18, 19:56
Despite new law which can prosecute only clients or clubs, but not prostitutes about services provided, but only about registration, so, most of WGs in German clubs still provide natural BJ. Many at Oase run for CIM for 50 more, then they finish rabbits in 15 mn for 100 , and save their little girl vagina.
Many real women don t provide CIM, but ask You to fuck her, after You drank her juice on DATY.
Real women are more attractive for me than little girls, and most often less expensive, not running for extras. With some, still possible to have great GFE for 100 for 1 hour.Fully online with you, there is no change just because the target of the law was not condom or not condom the target is to get all the girls register so possible to know everything about them, name, age, nationality. After to intensify the controls on them with income taxes for example and after to make some of them leave Germany just because they are upset by all this admi process what already happen many girls left and only few new young and fresh one are coming. The clubs are full of veteran prostitutes who have a fix address in Germany and don t care about their privacy. Yes you can get a 100 euro session with great GFE but believe me it is very difficult in the big Hessen one and mostly impossible for 50 euro.
Is it the new game at Oase?
100/30 mn and 150 for 1 h, is new GFE Oase rate? Sorry Siri, I have absolutely no idea about what you are trying to say here. Did you read my latest posts? Apart from Jenni Oase was great. I had a fantastic time over several days doing mostly 60 mnts sessions (MY choice) at standard rate (100 E). 10 great sessions with as much DFK / DATY / BJ / MPOS CFS as I wanted with some really sweet and goodlooking girls. Oase remains my #1 club. There is no other place I would rather be.
ExpatLover
01-29-18, 20:26
Sorry Siri, I have absolutely no idea about what you are trying to say here. Did you read my latest posts? Apart from Jenni Oase was great. I had a fantastic time over several days doing mostly 60 mnts sessions (MY choice) at standard price (100 E). 10 great sessions with as much DFK / DATY / BJ / MPOS CFS as I wanted with some really sweet and goodlooking girls. Oase remains my #1 club. There is no other place I would rather be.Obviously if you are ready to pay 100 each time you are getting better service but just to remind you that we should be able to get a correct one for 50 euro and 30 minutes.
Sorry Siri, I have absolutely no idea about what you are trying to say here. Did you read my latest posts? Apart from Jenni Oase was great. I had a fantastic time over several days doing mostly 60 mnts sessions (MY choice) at standard rate (100 E). 10 great sessions with as much DFK / DATY / BJ / MPOS CFS as I wanted with some really sweet and goodlooking girls. Oase remains my #1 club. There is no other place I would rather be.So, you are luckier than I was with Mady I knew from History. Ch where she was great GFE for club rate. Other guys I know, were also less lucky than you, for rates and services level. Many guys seem to tell about 100 asked for 30 mn. I don't like 30 mn rooms, I don't have enough time to really foreplay, sometimes take about 30 mn to make cum a girl on DATY, or maybe I m not good enough to be so long.
I agree with Shark: apart from a few odd bad apples, which can be easily spotted and avoided, there are some great girls at Oase right now, all for standard rates. I don't know what Siri is talking about because all girls I went to room with charged 50/30 mins. And 100/60 mins.
BTW Frenchman: there are girls at Oase now who "kiss like a woman" just the way you like, but you have to find them for your own tastes as attraction and chemistry is not universal. In my opinion you are missing out on a great lineup if you don't visit this club. But I imagine you have not visited recently.
ExpatLover
01-30-18, 02:10
I agree with Shark: apart from a few odd bad apples, which can be easily spotted and avoided, there are some great girls at Oase right now, all for standard rates. I don't know what Siri is talking about because all girls I went to room with charged 50/30 mins. And 100/60 mins.
BTW Frenchman: there are girls at Oase now who "kiss like a woman" just the way you like, but you have to find them for your own tastes as attraction and chemistry is not universal. In my opinion you are missing out on a great lineup if you don't visit this club. But I imagine you have not visited recently.Visited several times Oase in January and sorry it is not my experience, most of the girls are not willing to go for 50 euro 30 minutes including kissing and licking. But I am in the 60 and you are probably very sexy to get this great service, very happy for you.
Massimo Potente
01-30-18, 12:11
It was a time when there were three Carlas at Oase. Only one left now, and that's the most beautiful one IMO. A clear optical highlight at Oase. Also a decent session IME (in a 60 mnts booking):
Early 20's, short, slim, long brown hair. Very beautiful face / eyes. Her most remarkable feature is her amazingly pointy B/C-cups. Fun personality. Good smile. Always cheering up the other girls.
She's been around 3- 4 years at Oase, I think. Last observation this very month.
(Ericarla, known for superb service, is out of business AFAIK. Carla the tits (with average service if I am nice) went to Palace a couple of years ago and I dont know her whereabouts right now).
Thank you very much for the answer. If she really is still there I will choose OASE over SHARKS on most of my days off in Germany. Business trip coming and I will have a blast for sure!
p.s. Thanks a lot for your contribution in the Vienna thread. Very helpful and much appreciated.Certainly and I will carry on!
Are there any new stars then? As hot as the likes of Carla / Cheyenne / Ina (the hentai tits) etc? I read Denisa is back and Laura was mentioned on another board. But I thought someone here claimed not long ago that she was out of it for awhile? But any new ones in the same league? Lara though fine didn't quite do it for me chemistry wise. Miss Szanett.
Are there any new stars then? As hot as the likes of Carla / Cheyenne / Ina (the hentai tits) etc? I read Denisa is back and Laura was mentioned on another board. But I thought someone here claimed not long ago that she was out of it for awhile? But any new ones in the same league? Lara though fine didn't quite do it for me chemistry wise. Miss Szanett.Claudia is as hot as Cheyenne IMHO. Sometimes she's not 'in the mood' for a 50 euro session though.
ExpatLover
01-30-18, 20:45
Are there any new stars then? As hot as the likes of Carla / Cheyenne / Ina (the hentai tits) etc? I read Denisa is back and Laura was mentioned on another board. But I thought someone here claimed not long ago that she was out of it for awhile? But any new ones in the same league? Lara though fine didn't quite do it for me chemistry wise. Miss Szanett.Cheyenne a star, maybe you are too optimistic or you fall in love of her, she is just a prostitute no more no less than all the others, has many years (too many) in the business after so many clubs in Germany but also in Switzerland, no German senior monger will never go to the room with her this is a strong sign that she is not worth the money.
I agree with Shark: apart from a few odd bad apples, which can be easily spotted and avoided, there are some great girls at Oase right now, all for standard rates. I don't know what Siri is talking about because all girls I went to room with charged 50/30 mins. And 100/60 mins.
BTW Frenchman: there are girls at Oase now who "kiss like a woman" just the way you like, but you have to find them for your own tastes as attraction and chemistry is not universal. In my opinion you are missing out on a great lineup if you don't visit this club. But I imagine you have not visited recently.I visited twice in 2017, disappointing castings for look, and low level for sex, far below Ina. Lat, but maybe Oase is becoming new Heaven for 2018? Between ski Worldcup and my NRW girls, no time to visit again, but I will trust only my eyes and brain, for my pleasure.
Anyway, happy for you guys, if you have pleasure at simply the best.
BadinSweet
01-31-18, 00:05
Massimo Potente, as people stated here, if the Carla you are looking for is the same one I went with and the one people are talking about (who have been in the club for 3+ years), then she is around. I thought she look somewhat like to Emily Ratajkowski. Adele actually introduced her to me when I asked her who else I should go with. She is very observant and knew exactly who I normally go with. I only had time to take her for 30 mins session before closing but she was excellent and still provided DFK and everything else.
Ortos, if you stay til late the day when we were at the club last time, do you remember seeing these two girls, with like belly dancing skirt, at the end? One is a German girl?, with big tattoo that covers her upper back, very slim and nice body, long legs, wore black lingerie, I think she had silicon. The other one is also somewhat tall, perky be, very pale skin, long black hair, wear dark lipstick and look somewhat like Lorde, the singer. Anyone knows their name?
Massimo Potente
01-31-18, 02:08
Massimo Potente, as people stated here, if the Carla you are looking for is the same one I went with and the one people are talking about (who have been in the club for 3+ years), then she is around. I thought she look somewhat like to Emily Ratajkowski.I think there is a resemblence to Emily Ratajkowski. That's nice and good news!
It was a time when there were three Carlas at Oase....Carla the tits (with average service if I am nice) went to Palace a couple of years ago and I dont know her whereabouts right now)....One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.
ExpatLover
01-31-18, 21:08
One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.Even in World in 13/14 she went to some strong surgery, she was a very unstable girl, then left for few months to Oase, happy for her if she quit and have a normal life.
One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.If you are referring to Carla who went to palace from oase, aka the tits, yes she is pregnant again. And don't be sad she quit LOL. If you see her again in the club I bet you won't want to go with her. Don't look good anymore. I don't know how, but I stumbled onto her insta LOL.
ExpatLover
02-01-18, 07:19
If you are referring to Carla who went to palace from oase, aka the tits, yes she is pregnant again. And don't be sad she quit LOL. If you see her again in the club I bet you won't want to go with her. Don't look good anymore. I don't know how, but I stumbled onto her insta LOL.Obviously she is also getting older even 3 for 4 years back without make up her face and skin was bad, she also started very early esthetic surgery.
ExpatLover
02-01-18, 07:25
If you are referring to Carla who went to palace from oase, aka the tits, yes she is pregnant again. And don't be sad she quit LOL. If you see her again in the club I bet you won't want to go with her. Don't look good anymore. I don't know how, but I stumbled onto her insta LOL.At World there was another girl the name is Tina, I saw her 2 weeks back in World and was surprised by her face she is looking very old, tired. Not fresh at all, but the body is still fine. To be a prostitute has a lot of negative side effects the strongest one for me is the expression of the girls, their face is getting so sad year after year only few of them are able to manage all this well. Yesterday I met a girl 20 years old, 1 week in the job and she told me her brain is crazy.
Has anybody seen Nika lately? The German one with tattoo saying abdel.
Wow, it's been a week and no responses. That's sort of understandable -- she hasn't been active in the Frankfurt scene in years.
I think I last saw her at Oase three years ago -- so maybe many of the posters no longer know who she is.
I can PM you details if you clear your inbox.
Member #4585
02-02-18, 02:08
One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.I am glad I use to fuck her in the ass (and pussy) too. Baby making is harder if ass fucking her ass.
Wow, it's been a week and no responses. That's sort of understandable -- she hasn't been active in the Frankfurt scene in years.
I think I last saw her at Oase three years ago -- so maybe many of the posters no longer know who she is.
I can PM you details if you clear your inbox.Thanks inbox cleared.
I miss those group of girls and yes, about 3 years ago in Oase was last I saw her and Artemis before that.
Rogue Nation
02-02-18, 08:28
Carla with the coloured tattoo, small, skinny: She is working at Oase, she lost some weight, her tits aren't as full anymore as they used to be.
Carla who started at Word, had a short appearance at Globe, moved to Oase and Palace: I haven't seen her around for a while.
Erica aka Carla who started at Night & Day, moved to World, then Oase, had 3 stars above her eye, different hair colors including blue: She is out of business in Romania.
Nika, German girl who started at Artemis, moved to Palace and then Oase, heavily tattooed and silly cones: Haven't seen her for a while.
ExpatLover
02-02-18, 08:48
I am glad I use to fuck her in the ass (and pussy) too. Baby making is harder if ass fucking her ass.You are a real poet, if she is really pregnant maybe we can show some respect.
Steppenwolf11
02-02-18, 08:59
Wow, it's been a week and no responses. That's sort of understandable -- she hasn't been active in the Frankfurt scene in years.
I think I last saw her at Oase three years ago -- so maybe many of the posters no longer know who she is.
I can PM you details if you clear your inbox.Last year I saw her on the daily plan of Club Pearls in Trier (http://club-pearls.de/). But only for a short time.
Carla with the coloured tattoo, small, skinny: She is working at Oase, she lost some weight, her tits aren't as full anymore as they used to be..I managed to exchange a few words with her a little earlier in the evening. I feel that she either started very late of was busy all day. So she is here now and after some recovery I will ask her to go to the room with me. She is perfect. If the tits were even fuller before she must've been a perfect 10. Maybe disregarding her shortness.
She is wearing glasses today. That makes her easy to spot.
ExpatLover
02-03-18, 00:45
I managed to exchange a few words with her a little earlier in the evening. I feel that she either started very late of was busy all day. So she is here now and after some recovery I will ask her to go to the room with me. She is perfect. If the tits were even fuller before she must've been a perfect 10. Maybe disregarding her shortness.
She is wearing glasses today. That makes her easy to spot.Enjoy your time with her but never forget that she is not a queen or a princess but just a prostitute willing to take as much cash as possible form you.
RioDeJaneiro1
02-03-18, 21:14
Last year I saw her on the daily plan of Club Pearls in Trier (http://club-pearls.de/). But only for a short time.Hey Mr. Ho. FYI I was at paradise saarbrucken 2 weeks ago since I was told that Nika was there. I spent some time chatting with a girl who is an oldtimer at paradise. She confirmed that Nika was there but left like 6-8 months ago. I am looking for her like crazy. If anyone finds her. Tell us. I recall when I saw her the first time back in 2015 in Oase. She was something.
ExpatLover
02-03-18, 23:02
Hey Mr. Ho. FYI I was at paradise saarbrucken 2 weeks ago since I was told that Nika was there. I spent some time chatting with a girl who is an oldtimer at paradise. She confirmed that Nika was there but left like 6-8 months ago. I am looking for her like crazy. If anyone finds her. Tell us. I recall when I saw her the first time back in 2015 in Oase. She was something.Forget her and switch to another girl she is just a prostitute no more no less.
Member #4585
02-05-18, 23:56
I managed to exchange a few words with her a little earlier in the evening. I feel that she either started very late of was busy all day. So she is here now and after some recovery I will ask her to go to the room with me. She is perfect. If the tits were even fuller before she must've been a perfect 10. Maybe disregarding her shortness.
She is wearing glasses today. That makes her easy to spot.How was your session with Carla the brunette with perky breasts. She is good and works hard to please.
Friendly girl.
How was your session with Carla the brunette with perky breasts. She is good and works hard to please.
Friendly girl.Good but I found that with the kilos that she lost, some of her kindness and youthful cheer has been also lost.
Still recommended but far from the whirlwind of 1 year ago.
The Secretary look with the glasses becomes her, though.
Unbelievable but true, I officially like Oase over Sharks now even if it is just a momentary thing.
Had an intense session with Blackie Teresa and she might have been the best black girl I fucked yet. For sure in the TOP2 along with Sarah from Maxim Vienna. Hard to compare though because different type. Super good room with no upsell attempt at all.
Saw beauty Claudia again with new and improved haircut. Maybe I will take her for my final session or one other dark haired slim cutie whose name I forgot. Will post the final report in the morning.
Member #4585
02-07-18, 00:45
Good but I found that with the kilos that she lost, some of her kindness and youthful cheer has been also lost.
Still recommended but far from the whirlwind of 1 year ago.
The Secretary look with the glasses becomes her, though.I found that she still has that same joy having lost the kilograms and some of the bounce in her tits. Lord knows I need to lose some kilograms myself.
Carla makes up for it in other ways with public displays of affection and having a wide repertoire of services available for extra price that she happily provides.
I find Carla gets booked out by Americans a lot.
Member #4585
02-07-18, 00:54
Unbelievable but true, I officially like Oase over Sharks now even if it is just a momentary thing.
Had an intense session with Blackie Teresa and she might have been the best black girl I fucked yet. For sure in the TOP2 along with Sarah from Maxim Vienna. Hard to compare though because different type. Super good room with no upsell attempt at all.
Saw beauty Claudia again with new and improved haircut. Maybe I will take her for my final session or one other dark haired slim cutie whose name I forgot. Will post the final report in the morning.Looking forward to your final report in the morning with bated breath.
I find Oase is a good choice. A place to escape when Sharks becomes too much.
I keep missing Claudia.
I find Oase is a good choice. A place to escape when Sharks becomes too much.
I keep missing Claudia.She is here tonight and will be here all weekend for the Messe she says. She only works 3-4 days a week. Finally tried her and was a perfect room at 4 pm when the club was dead. She has an upselling reputation and has tried to push a 150 euro hour on me before but luckily I did not get any of that this time except a passing offer for Anal.
Actually had a better time at Oase than Sharks this trip. More couch time with top girls, but I went on a Monday / Tuesday.
Blond wing tattoo Anna and slim, tatooed, short hair Claudia with an improved ass provided exceptional rooms, while brunette, pretty face, dancing queen Ariana provided a great hour with some annoying attempts to extend time.
Funny observation, at one point all of the guys in the relax room were Asian. Some girls were looking in and trying to entice. I felt like I was in a Panda cage at the zoo, LOL.
Blond wing tattoo Anna and slim, tatooed, short hair Claudia with an improved ass provided exceptional rooms, while brunette, pretty face, dancing queen Ariana provided a great hour with some annoying attempts to extend time.This is the slim, small Claudia with a turquoise / orange tattoo?
This is the slim, small Claudia with a turquoise / orange tattoo?Sounds like her.
Member #4585
02-07-18, 01:28
She is here tonight and will be here all weekend for the Messe she says. She only works 3-4 days a week. Finally tried her and was a perfect room at 4 pm when the club was dead. She has an upselling reputation and has tried to push a 150 euro hour on me before but luckily I did not get any of that this time except a passing offer for Anal.
Actually had a better time at Oase than Sharks this trip. More couch time with top girls, but I went on a Monday / Tuesday.
Blond wing tattoo Anna and slim, tatooed, short hair Claudia with an improved ass provided exceptional rooms, while brunette, pretty face, dancing queen Ariana provided a great hour with some annoying attempts to extend time.
Funny observation, at one point all of the guys in the relax room were Asian. Some girls were looking in and trying to entice. I felt like I was in a Panda cage at the zoo, LOL.Jaysus. Are you still there Takedown?
Claudia needs a serious fucking and I am the man to do it. There is a serious boner aching for her butt hole (as well as Carla's).
There is a Messe? Jaysus, that may explain things then why it is like costs are skyrocketing to three times what I use to pay. Newbie mistake.
Ok, I just google it and its the Ambiente Messe from 9 to 13 February. Jaysus. That is a heavy Messe. No wonder the Sharks brand names are saying they are busy.
Nice that Claudia did a nice number for you for standard pricing. Man, plundering Claudia's ass hole must be heaven on earth for 100 extra bucks.
I know. Read my trip report a few pages down and you can feel the energy like it was my first day in the clubs. The girls were giving me couch time left right and center.
There was a German man with glasses making a cacophony on his drum kit that he bring into the club to act out his Ringo Starr fantasy and be the drummer. He make the girls raise their hands in the air and dance around the podium.
I need to keep an eye out for Anna and Ariana. I don't know who they are. Maybe Shark16 can help here.
When the crowds are going one way like Sharks maybe it is to become contrarian and head to the places beyond the rim and go to Oase.
I need to keep an eye out for Anna and Ariana. I don't know who they are. Maybe Shark16 can help here.Hey,
Too many Annas. I am clueless.
Ariana is decent IME: Early 20's, dark curly hair, medium height, slim, be-cups, pretty face with big striking eyes (her eye flirting makes me dizzy). Loves to dance (when the guy with the drum kit is around she is not far away) and can bring a lot of that rythm back into the room. Fond memories!
Member #4585
02-07-18, 02:23
Hey,
Too many Annas. I am clueless.
Ariana is decent IME: Early 20's, dark curly hair, medium height, slim, be-cups, pretty face with big striking eyes (her eye flirting makes me dizzy). Loves to dance (when the guy with the drum kit is around she is not far away) and can bring a lot of that rythm back into the room. Fond memories!I know Anna the day time black haired girl with the teenie body who like to wear the black hold up stockings.
I also knew a short haired blonde Anna too.
Yeah, I need to investigate which Anna that the man talk about.
Okay, Ariana like to dance to the German man with the drum kit that make a cacophony. She sound really nice. I like the eye flirting since that can charm the man big time. Jaysus. She be worth 100 bucks.
Looking forward to your final report in the morning with bated breath.
I find Oase is a good choice. A place to escape when Sharks becomes too much.
I keep missing Claudia.Had another small chat with Claudia and man was I tempted to do her again. But I didn't and went for Christina instead. Although she is very flat-chested I can day she is my type in a way. Sat down with her and even though we didn't have immediate chemistry later in the room we hit it off massively. No upsell attempt but tbh I didn't give her a chance to sell anything.
Absolute dear kind person. Very recommended. I stayed 1 hour because I needed it.
Oase has beaten Sharks, kicked its ass out of the stadium and stands tall.
Only downside, quite unfriendly receptionists as I left but hey, still a job well done Oase.
Had Sharks club not made me so insecure in the last couple of days I would have sessioned more but I admit it had an effect on me and I am not easily affected in such circumstances.
The upselling strategy is really an unprofitable one in the long run. Instead of 4-5 sessions I had just 2 today and the night before also. Less girls make money that way.
Member #4585
02-07-18, 03:58
MonSooner,
Thank you for the final excerpt from your report.
Had another small chat with Claudia and man was I tempted to do her again. But I didn't and went for Christina instead. Although she is very flat-chested I can day she is my type in a way. Sat down with her and even though we didn't have immediate chemistry later in the room we hit it off massively. No upsell attempt but tbh I didn't give her a chance to sell anything. Absolute dear kind person. Very recommended. I stayed 1 hour because I needed it. Good to know you liked to bag Christina. I am okay with flat chest but not to the point that the girl is like an ironing board. I cannot do that. Makes me feel like she is like a little boy and I cannot countenance such a travesty.
No need to repeat with Claudia, she is well hot and man she is well put together as a unit. I lust after her when she walks by me.
Only downside, quite unfriendly receptionists as I left but hey, still a job well done Oase. Are there still the Oase branded orange caps and Oase branded black umbrellas up for grabs from the receptionists?
Oase has beaten Sharks, kicked its ass out of the stadium and stands tall. Had Sharks club not made me so insecure in the last couple of days I would have sessioned more but I admit it had an effect on me and I am not easily affected in such circumstances. The upselling strategy is really an unprofitable one in the long run. Instead of 4-5 sessions I had just 2 today and the night before also. Less girls make money that way. These are my thoughts seriously.
I am sick of competing for the best girls at Sharks. There are like 50 pandas as McAdonis says hunting the 10 or so Asian hunting pole dancers. Then there are the Ottoman hunters who specialize in doing the Turkish men since they can handle the wear and tear and like the quick sessions. Then the American and Scandinavian contingent who are doing their thing too.
ExpatLover
02-07-18, 04:56
Jaysus. Are you still there Takedown?
Claudia needs a serious fucking and I am the man to do it. There is a serious boner aching for her butt hole (as well as Carla's).
There is a Messe? Jaysus, that may explain things then why it is like costs are skyrocketing to three times what I use to pay. Newbie mistake.
Ok, I just google it and its the Ambiente Messe from 9 to 13 February. Jaysus. That is a heavy Messe. No wonder the Sharks brand names are saying they are busy.
Nice that Claudia did a nice number for you for standard pricing. Man, plundering Claudia's ass hole must be heaven on earth for 100 extra bucks..In case of messe Oase is even getting more crowded than Shark but still many other places possible with no Asian guys destroying everything by overpaying for poor service.
MonSooner,
Thank you for the final excerpt from your report.
Good to know you liked to bag Christina. I am okay with flat chest but not to the point that the girl is like an ironing board. I cannot do that. Makes me feel like she is like a little boy and I cannot countenance such a travesty.
No need to repeat with Claudia, she is well hot and man she is well put together as a unit. I lust after her when she walks by me.
Are there still the Oase branded orange caps and Oase branded black umbrellas up for grabs from the receptionists?
These are my thoughts seriously.
I am sick of competing for the best girls at Sharks. There are like 50 pandas as McAdonis says hunting the 10 or so Asian hunting pole dancers. Then there are the Ottoman hunters who specialize in doing the Turkish men since they can handle the wear and tear and like the quick sessions. Then the American and Scandinavian contingent who are doing their thing too.Currently, no need to complete, IMO. Oase is just better now.
Rogue Nation
02-07-18, 08:52
Carla makes up for it in other ways with public displays of affection and having a wide repertoire of services available for extra price that she happily provides.
I find Carla gets booked out by Americans a lot.Carla goes for tourists only and avoids German regulars. This is because she doesn't like to kiss for 50 EUR and tries to avoid complaints by regulars. So expect 100 EUR to be the minimum amount for good service, and that is probably 100 EUR / 30 min.
Member #4585
02-07-18, 09:58
Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.
Rogue Nation
02-07-18, 13:35
Hearsay or personal experience? I didn't read any reports about BBBJ at Oase.
Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.I am a great fan of your posts but not so much of this one. Could we leave certain information to pms?
ExpatLover
02-07-18, 15:53
Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.I don't believe that CBJ is prevalent at least not for me, never a girl has put some condom, most German guys want no cover but don't want to pay 50 euro extra just for CIM so I am too, I stop paying for that the girls just put the sperm under their tongue and immediately split it in the dustbin and wash their mouth with Listerine no need to pay for that 50 euros.
Rogue Nation
02-07-18, 23:58
I am a great fan of your posts but not so much of this one. Could we leave certain information to pms?Since when? Here everybody is posting information about which clubs allow BBBJ and which don't. Encouraged and approved by admin.
Neurosynth
02-08-18, 05:19
Since when? Here everybody is posting information about which clubs allow BBBJ and which don't. Encouraged and approved by admin.Indeed. The current law is virtually unenforcible other than BBBJ in *public* areas. The law doesn't penalize the girls at all. Only the guys potentially. But there is essentially no way for cops to gather evidence. In general the local authorities consider it an imposition by politicians who like to posture.
The only way a law like this can have any effect is if we let it by helping to spread unnecessary fear and worry. There might be scattered reports of girls getting hassled by their management, but for every occurrence like that there are probably 500 BBBJs that go without any problems.
Member #4585
02-08-18, 05:54
I am a great fan of your posts but not so much of this one. Could we leave certain information to pms?Thank you Turgid for your support. It is appreciated.
PM is fine.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 05:56
Indeed. The current law is virtually unenforcible other than BBBJ in *public* areas. The law doesn't penalize the girls at all. Only the guys potentially. But there is essentially no way for cops to gather evidence. In general the local authorities consider it an imposition by politicians who like to posture.
The only way a law like this can have any effect is if we let it by helping to spread unnecessary fear and worry. There might be scattered reports of girls getting hassled by their management, but for every occurrence like that there are probably 500 BBBJs that go without any problems.The target of the new law was not to protect the health of the prostitutes this was just a cosmetic approach, I am quite that never any monger will have to pay for a BBBJ, but what is sure is that the German government has a exhaustive database of all the girls being prostitutes in Germany including names, addresses, passport number. What one day the authorities will do with it nobody knows even not themselves, but there is a high risk obviously there just have a look of what happen of the extreme confidential data of the owner of bank accounts in Switzerland. BBBJ is still available as before no change at least for me without asking something.
Member #4585
02-08-18, 05:57
Currently, no need to complete, IMO. Oase is just better now.Thank you Danny227. Gives me comfort for the future.
I hate competing for girls at Sharks to "complete" as you describe. There seems to be a queue of guys wanting the brand names like Helen, Mandy and Evita at Sharks.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 06:04
Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.Fully correct many times I heard in the recent weeks the girls at the reception explaining that CIM is 50, also the girls are more or less obliged to do BBBJ it is a competitive advantage against other clubs. If we refer to the new law CIM is forbidden but also the clubs are not allowed to fix the prices, they have to explain to the customers that everything is with condom and that the prices are done by each girl but nothing of that is happening in any club, again it confirms for me that the target of the new was not those one but to create a database of all the prostitutes in Germany and push some girls out of Germany by some admin harassment but never to support them, who cares about poor girls mostly coming from Roumania.
Rogue Nation
02-08-18, 08:15
Thank you Turgid for your support. It is appreciated.
PM is fine.You are spreading information about BBBJ at the clubs and now you thank another member for trying to do the opposite? How does that make sense?
KenzoTange
02-08-18, 09:35
Wow these reports make me think I need to go to Oase instead of Sharks this weekend.
How much is taxi price from frankfurt to Burgholzhausen? Also is the non-silicone lineup good?
Thanks!
Indeed. The current law is virtually unenforcible other than BBBJ in *public* area.And even that I might have spotted in one of the club's I was.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 11:33
Thank you Danny227. Gives me comfort for the future.
I hate competing for girls at Sharks to "complete" as you describe. There seems to be a queue of guys wanting the brand names like Helen, Mandy and Evita at Sharks.Forget all those brand names, they are not better or worse in the room, the key is the chemistry between people. My type of girl will probably not be yours and the contrary could be true also, no need to create the buzz around some girls, they are all just prostitutes, nobody is able to tell me the name of the stars 3 or 5 years back. Some girls are doing things with me but not with others and the contrary is also true, I will never understand why we always want to treat girls like a product with this and that features, if she has some stomach problem she will probably not do anal that day, if she has her days she will be different and not accept that or that position, so what can be the value of that or that report. All this songs very logical at least for me.
Since when? Here everybody is posting information about which clubs allow BBBJ and which don't. Encouraged and approved by admin.There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.
Hi guys,
How common and easy is it to have Com On Face with the ladies? Cost?
There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.Unfortunately, there are clubs where staff had briefing with girls to say to girls, they won t accept to receive complaints from clients. Most of girls understood the message, to be able to keep on their business.
FKK land is not wonderland.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 14:10
There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.You are wrong I heard several times in Oase and Shark the staff clearly explaining to the new girls that they have to do BJ without, it is a strong tool to bit the other clubs which are promoting CBJ.
Rogue Nation
02-08-18, 17:50
There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.The encouraging part was about the Forum policy.
IMO it's rare to be offered even though it does happen. The number that will accept it but not advertise that is higher. 50€ is the cost.
Hi guys,
How common and easy is it to have Com On Face with the ladies? Cost?
Unfortunately, there are clubs where staff had briefing with girls to say to girls, they won t accept to receive complaints from clients. Most of girls understood the message, to be able to keep on their business.
FKK land is not wonderland.To be clear, did the clubs have a meeting to encourage BBBJ or was the meeting to forbid it?
MikeSiler00
02-08-18, 19:13
Wow these reports make me think I need to go to Oase instead of Sharks this weekend.
How much is taxi price from frankfurt to Burgholzhausen? Also is the non-silicone lineup good?
Thanks!Me too, any way to get there from public transport.
Maybe we should split a cab.
Wow these reports make me think I need to go to Oase instead of Sharks this weekend.
How much is taxi price from frankfurt to Burgholzhausen? Also is the non-silicone lineup good?
Thanks!It will be around 50 e from downtown Frankfurt to Oase or you can take s5 to the end (Friedrichsdolf) and take cab for 10 e. Or Walk 40 min on google map if the weather is nice.
This Carla ro, assembles to Emily Ratajkowski, is the best "Carla" in Oase. I knew her for a while. She started to work in Oase since early 2015, on and off. Every time I went to Oase, I did try to give her at least one hour session. She claimed she was a tennis-player and once attended USTA tournaments at California!
Massimo Potente, as people stated here, if the Carla you are looking for is the same one I went with and the one people are talking about (who have been in the club for 3+ years), then she is around. I thought she look somewhat like to Emily Ratajkowski. Adele actually introduced her to me when I asked her who else I should go with. She is very observant and knew exactly who I normally go with. I only had time to take her for 30 mins session before closing but she was excellent and still provided DFK and everything else.
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Unfortunately, there are clubs where staff had briefing with girls to say to girls, they won t accept to receive complaints from clients. Most of girls understood the message, to be able to keep on their business.
FKK land is not wonderland.Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 19:43
Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.Right they are always on the side of the girls, but I don't care I blacklist those clubs.
Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.At GT, I saw a Romanian cutie arriving, she looked shy and lost. After 2 old Germans, she was said to leave. I asked desk to let me try her, they refused. It was my mistake to wait too long, but I thought she needed a bit of time.
Last Sunday, I was lazy, so one fat old was the first for a new girl, but no other second than me, and when I left I said to the desk to keep for me this Romanian model type I enjoyed, so wet in bed, and for diner she wanted we have together after, asking also I come to say Goodbye before leaving. Wish to see her again.
Neurosynth
02-08-18, 20:48
Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.The prevailing attitude is don't ask, don't tell, don't cause problems. Management considers loss of income as the only meaningful problem. Keep BB services behind closed doors, and everyone is happy.
Because these laws are unenforcible, the only way they can impact what happens behind closed doors is through irrational fear. And at this point the only folks spreading fear among we consumers is not the police, club management, or sex workers. The only folks spreading fear are other consumers on boards like this.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 20:58
The prevailing attitude is don't ask, don't tell, don't cause problems. Management considers loss of income as the only meaningful problem. Keep BB services behind closed doors, and everyone is happy.
Because these laws are unenforcible, the only way they can impact what happens behind closed doors is through irrational fear. And at this point the only folks spreading fear among we consumers is not the police, club management, or sex workers. The only folks spreading fear are other consumers on boards like this.The biggest concern is not what is happening in the rooms but the complete lost of control by the management of Oase and Shark of the price policy implemented by the veteran girls which will definitively one time or another impact their revenues.
Member #4585
02-08-18, 21:02
You are spreading information about BBBJ at the clubs and now you thank another member for trying to do the opposite? How does that make sense? On the contrary.
The primary point was I am thanking Turgid for his support in enjoying my posts. It is good manners to do so and being civil.
I will endeavor to continue to make my posts enjoyable for Turgid, among others.
Member #4585
02-08-18, 21:08
Hi guys,
How common and easy is it to have Com On Face with the ladies? Cost?
As Ararat as said below, I concur with his prognosis.
Come on face is possible, not always readily available for the girl with a layer cake of make up, but is at 50 bucks surcharge.
Member #4585
02-08-18, 21:09
And even that I might have spotted in one of the club's I was.The public action is rarer across all the clubs, but it is possible. Seen it in the public lounge or in the jacuzzi. Just ask your girl.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 21:22
Nothing of the sort. Where did I mention BBBJ in my post?
The primary point was I am thanking Turgid for his support in enjoying my posts. It is good manners to do so and for many does not need an explanation.No need to be angry about BBBJ or not, believe me nobody cares about it, no control nothing. It was not the main target of the new law.
ExpatLover
02-08-18, 21:23
The public action is rarer across all the clubs, but it is possible. Seen it in the public lounge or in the jacuzzi. Just ask your girl.I never saw public action except some HJ or light BJ may be possible late night in some circumstances but in the day I don t believe it is possible.
BadinSweet
02-09-18, 00:12
...and went for Christina instead. Although she is very flat-chested I can day she is my type in a way. Sat down with her and even though we didn't have immediate chemistry later in the room we hit it off massively. No upsell attempt but tbh I didn't give her a chance to sell anything.
Absolute dear kind person. Very recommended. I stayed 1 hour because I needed it...Is this Christina, small ROM, dark or Brunette, long hair, have a cross tattoo? I thought she has a very nice body. Though I don't normally take her, she always smile and say Hi to me. A very nice gal with no pressure outside the room.
Member #4585
02-09-18, 00:25
Oase girls are still approach happy. The good part is that when I went, it was not so busy so I got plenty of couch time before the room like Bitumen mentioned. Something like half an hour of couch time of dancing and flirting for a couple of girls I went with.Thank you Takedown for your report and your concurrence with my experience at FKK Oase on the prevalence of ample couch time even when no room is expected as a result. Many of the Oase girls are darlings and generous with their time. I do not get the same experience at Sharks which, to me, feels more commercial in mindset.
To be clear, did the clubs have a meeting to encourage BBBJ or was the meeting to forbid it?They say to their girls, despite new law, they don t want clients complain and don t return. Do you understand the message to girls? But club put information about law.
At GT, girls were said it s your business.
ExpatLover
02-09-18, 03:55
Thank you Takedown for your report and your concurrence with my experience at FKK Oase on the prevalence of ample couch time even when no room is expected as a result. Many of the Oase girls are darlings and generous with their time. I do not get the same experience at Sharks which, to me, feels more commercial in mindset.Sorry but when you say many of the Oase girls are darlings and generous I really can t agree with you, at least it is my experience after more than 100 of visits, in my case except some really sweet one the girls are quite aggressive if you don't go to the room with them if they consider you are their regular after several sessions. There is a kind of strong jealousy. Had this problem for example with Alina or Annah. I have a better experience on this front with Shark girls.
ExpatLover
02-09-18, 05:31
They say to their girls, despite new law, they don t want clients complain and don t return. Do you understand the message to girls? But club put information about law.
At GT, girls were said it s your business.The follow the law by advertising everywhere that condom is compulsory but on off they encourage the girls not to change their habits, in some FKK like Shark or Oase even they push the girls to act like before the 1st July 2017.
If anyone want to know what Carla ro looks like, please see attached photo. I think there is 80% resemblance. Haha.
If I would like to have a threesome for a full hour with lesbo show CIM anal how much will it cost?
Is this Christina, small ROM, dark or Brunette, long hair, have a cross tattoo? I thought she has a very nice body. Though I don't normally take her, she always smile and say Hi to me. A very nice gal with no pressure outside the room.No doubt. That is her.
I had a great time with her. I don't think, by default, that she offers all services always but with chemistry very good service for sure. Friendly and modest. Little bit jumpy.
Rogue Nation
02-09-18, 13:22
Because these laws are unenforcible, the only way they can impact what happens behind closed doors is through irrational fear. And at this point the only folks spreading fear among we consumers is not the police, club management, or sex workers. The only folks spreading fear are other consumers on boards like this.Wrong. The law may not be enforceable. Harassing clubs which are reported to allow BBBJ with controls and checks by authorities or police is an option that is happening. Take LivingRoom as an example.
They say to their girls, despite new law, they don t want clients complain and don t return. Do you understand the message to girls? But club put information about law.
At GT, girls were said it s your business.I am not in Germany now but perhaps some monger who is there should go to the room with a girl for 1/2 hr 50 E and ask her for BBBJ. If she refuses he should complain to management and report here what was management's response.
Massimo Potente
02-09-18, 13:48
I am not in Germany now but perhaps some monger who is there should go to the room with a girl for 1/2 hr 50 E and ask her for BBBJ. If she refuses he should complain to management and report here what was management's response.The response is easy to anticipate. This plan won't work that way. The guy can complain but not about services regarding condoms or none, I would imagine.
ExpatLover
02-09-18, 14:36
I am not in Germany now but perhaps some monger who is there should go to the room with a girl for 1/2 hr 50 E and ask her for BBBJ. If she refuses he should complain to management and report here what was management's response.If you are well know in the club or by the girl, if you are not very clean and a bit attractive no chance to get a BBBJ for 50 euro or the girl is very desperate. Now all the girls do the same as soon they believe the guy is not top clean they will put condom, for them mentally it is a strong protection they don t have the feeling to really have sex there is a barrier between their body and the monger, this point is extremely important.
VetMILFHunter
02-09-18, 20:12
So I was trying to book a hotel room for the 25th next month. I see a few that don't have that week available. Is something going on there that so many rooms are pre booked already. I'm trying to find nearest hotel to Oase. As I was trying to get VIP suite at Oase but nobody has gotten back with me as of yet on the price of that. It will be a Sunday that I go any one else plan on going this day we can possibly link up? As I'm leaving Monday to go towards Wurzburg then Bayreuth. See what kind of laudhaus or FKK I can find that way after I enjoy Oase from the time they open until closing.
Neurosynth
02-10-18, 00:16
Wrong. The law may not be enforceable. Harassing clubs which are reported to allow BBBJ with controls and checks by authorities or police is an option that is happening. Take LivingRoom as an example.From everything I've heard Living Room is an outlier. And there are lots of reasons other than this new law why clubs might find themselves harassed. Perhaps the club is run, say, by a motorcycle "club" and it's a way of getting at them. Or maybe there is local corruption. There were clubs being harassed at times before the law.
The cause and effect in this case is unclear, but whatever it is it's the exception not the rule, and exceptions are always possible, new law or not.
If anyone want to know what Carla ro looks like, please see attached photo. I think there is 80% resemblance. Haha.I didn't see long time at Oase, Carla on last Saturday at Oase.
So I was trying to book a hotel room for the 25th next month. I see a few that don't have that week available. Is something going on there that so many rooms are pre booked already. I'm trying to find nearest hotel to Oase. As I was trying to get VIP suite at Oase but nobody has gotten back with me as of yet on the price of that. It will be a Sunday that I go any one else plan on going this day we can possibly link up? As I'm leaving Monday to go towards Wurzburg then Bayreuth. See what kind of laudhaus or FKK I can find that way after I enjoy Oase from the time they open until closing.The nearest hotels to Oase are Hotel Arkadia (Kind of between service apartment and hotel) and Mecure Hotel Bad Homburg. You can book them from booking.com. I just checked for you. It will be around $80-70 for the night. When you search at Booking.com.Type in city name Friedrichsdolf. It will show all hotels close to Oase.
The VIP suite at Oase I had been quoted as E200 for two HR with Jacuzzi. There are two to three different type of VIP room. You can check with reception to get form price.
Have fun. I will be there on March 3 and 4. Let us know if LU is good. Give us some names of those LU.
Vito Corleone
02-10-18, 03:00
If I would like to have a threesome for a full hour with lesbo show CIM anal how much will it cost?It depends on the club. Most 3 some are generally lame. If you really want an all out lesbo show with double BJs with one working the head & the other working the shaft. Bernds is the best club for 3 some.
Rogue Nation
02-10-18, 10:31
Perhaps the club is run, say, by a motorcycle "club" and it's a way of getting at them. Or maybe there is local corruption. Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.
Maybe it was due to open reports about BBBJ. We read that doors were opened and couples were asked to use a condom.
Most 3 some are generally lame. If you really want an all out lesbo show with double BJs with one working the head & the other working the shaft. Bernds is the best club for 3 some.You my friend have never had your asshole licked while fucking another girl in the mouth🤗. Jk I wouldn't know what that's like. I'm too poor to afford that.
ExpatLover
02-10-18, 15:14
It depends on the club. Most 3 some are generally lame. If you really want an all out lesbo show with double BJs with one working the head & the other working the shaft. Bernds is the best club for 3 some.Most of the threesome are not worth the money it is just a good way for the girls to work less and get more money, technically the change of the condom is a spirit killer, most of the girls are not very lesbian oriented and will just touch and lick the breast of the other girl, very seldom their pussy. Personally after several attempts I completely stopped it just not worth the money.
Member #4585
02-10-18, 15:38
Made a change to Oase for Thursday of this trip.
The line up for me was hot.
There was a lot of guys. Maybe they are the early guys for the Messe come to set up and do meetings before the conference days. Asians and Turks.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
The rooms were busy so there was waits for the rooms.
Hardly any German House Guests.
Just Italian, Ottoman and East Asians. English was the language to communicate.
The line up was to my liking. A nice change to the Sharks line up that is getting stale.
As I said in my Friday Sharks report in its respective threads the Sharks line up has become boring.
I am even considering heading back to World and looking in on Bahama, Rom and Atlanta.
Mainhattan has had its recent reports of how hard it is to get the desired services.
But Oase is good. No need to negotiate services in my experience. Upsell is minimal and actually is it more about ask or a reminder that it's available.
Many times the extras do not come up. I just do it and pay the rate at the end. No surprises really with payment at the end. Always as expected.
No clock watching either too. 5 minutes and sometimes on a longer booking 10 minutes over is okay for many girls.
Maybe not for everyone.
Much to said of the line up again. It will take me a while to work my way through my wish list here.
Girls are friendly. Say Hello, and come over for a kiss and a hug. Not like dismissive prima Donna Sharks brand name girls of which I could name a long list of.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
Hardly any German House Guests.By chance, is this former Sharks Cosmina of the Evita and Irina group? Should have had more sessions with her when she was working.
Second comment is sad. Germans are needed to keep the girls in check.
Rogue Nation
02-10-18, 17:15
Cosmina and Irina are out of business. They were not working at Oase. Evita is still at Sharks.
From what hour did you experience a wait for the rooms?
Member #4585
02-10-18, 18:05
You my friend have never had your asshole licked while fucking another girl in the mouth.This service is available from the Sharks German girls. Pick the right ones.
Member #4585
02-10-18, 18:07
By chance, is this former Sharks Cosmina of the Evita and Irina group? Should have had more sessions with her when she was working.Man. Just did her again. She is tight just like Evita and Yra you mean. Love her pussy. She look like Cosmina. She is not Cosmina.
Man. Just did her again. She is tight just like Evita and Yra you mean. Love her pussy. She look like Cosmina. She is not Cosmina.Ah I understand, Eileen that looks like Cosmina. By chance does she have wing tats on her back? I described a girl that looked like Cosmina last week but thought her name was Anna.
I didn't see long time at Oase, Carla on last Saturday at Oase.She is at Oase today, with glasses and new hair color.
Also Michele / Shayen, Suginella now chesnut with less weight on ass, she looks better. Mady ex History. Ch but she broke magic she built there, with her Oase upselling, she should go to Globe. Also long time Alice silicon.
Many long time girls, some ex World. Friendly Juicy. Laura is off for a while, for a better life for her.
Oase is great for breakfast, to relax, and they play Eurosport.
Rogue Nation
02-10-18, 19:22
But Oase is good. No need to negotiate services in my experience. Upsell is minimal and actually is it more about ask or a reminder that it's available.
Many times the extras do not come up. I just do it and pay the rate at the end. No surprises really with payment at the end. Always as expected.
No clock watching either too. 5 minutes and sometimes on a longer booking 10 minutes over is okay for many girls.Interesting. I'd advice everyone to negotiate service and to watch the time spent in the room. 10 min over will rarely be accepted.
Some interesting reports about Oase. I booked hotel in Darmstadt. But I might think about going to Oase one day in my FKK vacation.
Neurosynth
02-11-18, 01:43
Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.
Maybe it was due to open reports about BBBJ. We read that doors were opened and couples were asked to use a condom.The point is we aren't hearing about this happening at 10 different places, we keep hearing about this same incident ten times.
When there is an outlier we should ask why they are different, and not assume they must be some kind of leading indicator. And especially so when so much time has passed with the law in place.
Member #4581
02-11-18, 04:04
The point is we aren't hearing about this happening at 10 different places, we keep hearing about this same incident ten times.
When there is an outlier we should ask why they are different, and not assume they must be some kind of leading indicator. And especially so when so much time has passed with the law in place.The "don't post" guys have lost the plot and are not making any sense anymore. Some of these guys will go to their graves with anger "I told them not to post about BBBJ and they would n't listen to me"....
Take just one club Oase; do the math. Roughly 80 girls on average daily, and say 5 blow jobs per day per girl. Conservative estimates. That is 400 per day, and in one month equates to 12 K. Cut it to 10 K to be even more conservative. In the 7 months since the law passed, that is at least 70 K blow jobs at one single big club like Oase.
Do this same math all across the land, you are looking at several million blow jobs in clubs alone. Not to mention, RLDs, Street walkers.
For the don't post crowd to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.
long time Carla is at Oase today, with glasses and new hair color. Less frog face with her new look .
Also Michele / Shayen , Suginella now chesnut with less weight on ass, she looks better. Mady ex History. Ch but she broke magic she built there, with her Oase upselling, she should go to Globe. Also long time Alice silicon.
Many long time girls, some ex World. Friendly Juicy. Laura is off for a while, for a better life for her.
Oase is great for breakfast, to relax, and they play Eurosport.Also Roxana and a blond looking like her older sister. It was nice to see Roxana and Suginella sitting together, reminds me end of 2014 when they turned around together.
Last Saturday, after blond, sweet Stefani. Ro, I discovered on late night because I didn't accept to pay 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 hour, good surprise, nice behavior, pretty Vera. Today, I think they spoke about me after my room with Vera, discovery of real beauty Adela who smiled to me for first time, a woman at Oase who likes we take care of her, I asked her if she wanted to repeat at 3 am, usually she doesn't run after business on late night, but she wanted to please me, and she improved in bed, even first room was already enjoyable. Not top NRW level yet, but maybe we can try to improve together when she will return.
I also saw thin Amanda asking 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 hour. A pretty girl in day team, saying she has no name, but even in a brothel, even with a prostitute, I can t go with a no name girl. She will have to change her behavior if she wants my business. Also Alexia is possible if her quite big tits are real.
Even I didn t see again a attractive girl with curly light chesnut hair and green eyes, seen last week, but quite good casting with 5 attractive girls for my eyes, not so bad.
Entry 50 before 4 pm. Yellow cat slept with me.
BigBuddy69
02-11-18, 06:13
So just go and do your reports as you wish but don't ask other people to do the same.
... do ... reports as you wish Apologies for continuing this off topic discussion, but I can't resist saying you have made, for me, the perfect principle.
Everybody here has a defensible rationale for their posting approach.
I find the balance of what to report difficult, especially when girls have specifically asked me not to report on compliance or non-compliance with legal requirements. They said that they feared the authorities might close their club down. There was enough worry for one to send me a middle of the night message. Just an anecdote from my limited experience, drawing no conclusions.
I don't suggest they are right, but clearly they were fearful, rightly or wrongly.
... to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.Agreed. You are 100% right that establishing a causal connection is almost impossible. I guess it is possible (I don't say probable) that in the longterm there could (not will) be a connection as RN suggests (authorities using rumours in their selection of which clubs to raid, or future legislation). I have no way of guessing what will happen given the huge variables involved in predicting the future
Just my 2 cents worth
Cheers.
The "don't post" guys have lost the plot and are not making any sense anymore. Some of these guys will go to their graves with anger "I told them not to post about BBBJ and they would n't listen to me"....
Take just one club Oase; do the math. Roughly 80 girls on average daily, and say 5 blow jobs per day per girl. Conservative estimates. That is 400 per day, and in one month equates to 12 K. Cut it to 10 K to be even more conservative. In the 7 months since the law passed, that is at least 70 K blow jobs at one single big club like Oase.
Do this same math all across the land, you are looking at several million blow jobs in clubs alone. Not to mention, RLDs, Street walkers.....
All t
For the don't post crowd to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.Posting about BBBJ at a club in general may or may not have repercussions but mentioning specific girls right now only causes problems, either for her with the club or her with other girls who want to upsell. Better to be vague and not kiss and tell all of the details, at least until the heat dissipates. But for the sake of the good provider, perhaps you shouldn't rat her out for literally all the world to see.
ExpatLover
02-11-18, 16:13
Posting about BBBJ at a club in general may or may not have repercussions but mentioning specific girls right now only causes problems, either for her with the club or her with other girls who want to upsell. Better to be vague and not kiss and tell all of the details, at least until the heat dissipates. But for the sake of the good provider, perhaps you shouldnt rat her out for literally all the world to see.In all the big clubs all the girls are doing BBBJ for extra or not, nothing have changed and I don't believe that he authorities are caring about that, they have reached their targets all the girls are more or less registered with name, address, phone number, ID card, passport, it will be so easy now to start the controls on taxe income or in the airports when the girls will fly back to Romania the customs officer could get a special info and practise a targeted control of the girls to see if they don't carry more than 10000 euros with them, the usage or not of condoms is really not the main priority for the German authorities but the cash transfer, the income tax yes of course and this will be so easy to do from now on.
The "don't post" guys have lost the plot and are not making any sense anymore. Some of these guys will go to their graves with anger "I told them not to post about BBBJ and they would n't listen to me"....
Take just one club Oase; do the math. Roughly 80 girls on average daily, and say 5 blow jobs per day per girl. Conservative estimates. That is 400 per day, and in one month equates to 12 K. Cut it to 10 K to be even more conservative. In the 7 months since the law passed, that is at least 70 K blow jobs at one single big club like Oase.
Do this same math all across the land, you are looking at several million blow jobs in clubs alone. Not to mention, RLDs, Street walkers.....
For the don't post crowd to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.Everyone has freedom of choice. Guys should be free to post all of their BBBJ experiences for the reading pleasure of other mongers. Feel free to name the girls who give you BBBJ. Also feel free to state that such and such club encourages their girls to do BBBJ. I will enjoy reading them for I will know which girls to go to for BBBJ and also which clubs I can expect more BBBJs from. I will read but I won't report accordingly.
Everyone has freedom of choice. Guys should be free to post all of their BBBJ experiences for the reading pleasure of other mongers. Feel free to name the girls who give you BBBJ. Also feel free to state that such and such club encourages their girls to do BBBJ. I will enjoy reading them for I will know which girls to go to for BBBJ and also which clubs I can expect more BBBJs from. I will read but I won't report accordingly.Way to think like a WG. Short term only and only of self. No thought on preserving a good thing and causing issues with good providers, thus screwing her over, others, and yourself in the long run. How hard is it to PM and keep the names out of general circulation for the world to see. But yes freedom of speech comes with freedom to be a selfish prick.
Rogue Nation
02-11-18, 18:45
Way to think like a WG. Short term only and only of self. No thought on preserving a good thing and causing issues with good providers, thus screwing her over, others, and yourself in the long run. How hard is it to PM and keep the names out of general circulation for the world to see. But yes freedom of speech comes with freedom to be a selfish prick.Fully agree. I don't get the rationale behind shouting out loud which club is allowing illegal practices.
ExpatLover
02-11-18, 19:45
Apologies for continuing this off topic discussion, but I can't resist saying you have made, for me, the perfect principle.
Everybody here has a defensible rationale for their posting approach.
I find the balance of what to report difficult, especially when girls have specifically asked me not to report on compliance or non-compliance with legal requirements. They said that they feared the authorities might close their club down. There was enough worry for one to send me a middle of the night message. Just an anecdote from my limited experience, drawing no conclusions.
I don't suggest they are right, but clearly they were fearful, rightly or wrongly.The police will close a club because of messages on a forum, no sorry they need evidences to go to the court to get a judgment deciding to close and not only rumors on internet. Who saw any official control of the usage or not of condom since the 1st July, sorry I was so often in the clubs and saw nothing, not 1 policeman and I know why it is just not the target of the new law, the target is to get a exhaustive database of all the prostitutes in Germany, to make them pay more income tax, and to control their capital transfer to mostly Romania. Just let us imagine the custom officer in the airports have access to this database it will be so easy for them to specifically check those girls to see if they are not carrying more than 10000 euros, same possibilities on the borders. What I am saying seems completely unrealistic, let us be pragmatic this will happen obviously it is just a matter of time.
ExpatLover
02-11-18, 20:10
Made a change to Oase for Thursday of this trip.
The line up for me was hot.
There was a lot of guys. Maybe they are the early guys for the Messe come to set up and do meetings before the conference days. Asians and Turks.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
The rooms were busy so there was waits for the rooms.
Hardly any German House Guests.
Just Italian, Ottoman and East Asians. English was the language to communicate.
The line up was to my liking. A nice change to the Sharks line up that is getting stale..Are you a shareholder of Oase, or simply the manager? Visited Oase 100+ times and I just can say that the club is on a strong downstream, upsell with most of the girls, also some girls quite aggressive mostly working the day shift, staff is a real nightmare so unfriendly, some days the LU is great but never a girl will stay 10 minutes more in the room with me.
Way to think like a WG. Short term only and only of self. No thought on preserving a good thing and causing issues with good providers, thus screwing her over, others, and yourself in the long run. How hard is it to PM and keep the names out of general circulation for the world to see. But yes freedom of speech comes with freedom to be a selfish prick.Ok, ok I'll share with you and others via pm. Now stop pouting.
Ok, ok I'll share with you and others via pm. Now stop pouting.Call it Reprimanding rather than pouting. Lost in text.
Neurosynth
02-12-18, 00:18
Posting about BBBJ at a club in general may or may not have repercussions but mentioning specific girls right now only causes problems, either for her with the club or her with other girls who want to upsell. Better to be vague and not kiss and tell all of the details, at least until the heat dissipates. But for the sake of the good provider, perhaps you shouldnt rat her out for literally all the world to see.Only causes problems? Show us some evidence of that. Without that, and in a quantity to be significant, it's speculation.
Wait until heat dissipates? What heat? It's been months and months. How much waiting is enough?
And in response to some other posts.
Of course everyone has the "right" to post as they want. (Although local management here has *objected* to guys posting that BB services should not be posted about.).
It's not a question of rights. Nobody is forcefully taking away rights. What is being suggested is that, in fact, self-censorship lowers the value of the board, helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire. Those who think posting about BB services is bad for the hobby are wrong. In fact it's not posting about BB services that chips away at the hobby. Ditto for those suggesting only bachkchanneling via messaging.
Only causes problems? Show us some evidence of that. Without that, and in a quantity to be significant, it's speculation.
Wait until heat dissipates? What heat? It's been months and months. How much waiting is enough?
And in response to some other posts.
Of course everyone has the "right" to post as they want. (Although local management here has *objected* to guys posting that BB services should not be posted about.).
It's not a question of rights. Nobody is forcefully taking away rights. What is being suggested is that, in fact, self-censorship lowers the value of the board, helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire. Those who think posting about BB services is bad for the hobby are wrong. In fact it's not posting about BB services that chips away at the hobby. Ditto for those suggesting only bachkchanneling via messaging.Plenty of stories of girls being reported by other girls that they do bareback that lead to them getting fired. See reports of Ariana from Sharks in October 2017. Someone on the board wrote that she provided bareback, other girls spread the rumors, she was subsequently fired.
Lucy at Palace Febuary 2017 reported here for being super hot and providing good service 50euro rooms, a unicorn at Palace, 2 weeks later was pressured to withhold services by Palace girls.
Current reports of Mainhattain mafia girls reporting new good service girls for bbbj and suggesting bareback was provided.
Point is, its a taboo topic in the club environment and you're attaching specific girls to those topics. Girls are aware, they surely have shown that they can use it as a tool against other girls in various ways. Just chill out for a while longer until the culture reveals itself.
Rogue Nation
02-12-18, 08:19
in fact, self-censorship ...., helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire.That's just wrong. It has worked perfectly over the last 20 years on German boards in regards to BB services in the clubs. It's not self-censorship, it is precaution to ensure those services in the future.
ExpatLover
02-12-18, 09:55
Plenty of stories of girls being reported by other girls that they do bareback that lead to them getting fired. See reports of Ariana from Sharks in October 2017. Someone on the board wrote that she provided bareback, other girls spread the rumors, she was subsequently fired.
Lucy at Palace Febuary 2017 reported here for being super hot and providing good service 50euro rooms, a unicorn at Palace, 2 weeks later was pressured to withhold services by Palace girls.
Current reports of Mainhattain mafia girls reporting new good service girls for bbbj and suggesting bareback was provided.
Point is, its a taboo topic in the club environment and youre attaching specific girls to those topics. Girls are aware, they surely have shown that they can use it as a tool against other girls in various ways. Just chill out for a while longer until the culture reveals itself.We all know that the target of many girls especially the oldest one is to give the less possible and to earn the most possible, fortunately there are also girls willing to please and giving good service but those girls are targeted by the mafia groups of veteran one putting them pressure to lower their services and increase their prices. In clubs like World the management has a better control of the things and girls but in Oase or Shark they completely let the girls control everything but we clearly see in which direction both clubs are going.
Less and less senior mongers, more and more tourists and guys with migration background, yesterday at Shark it was a good example what a FKK club should not be.
ExpatLover
02-12-18, 11:56
Everyone has freedom of choice. Guys should be free to post all of their BBBJ experiences for the reading pleasure of other mongers. Feel free to name the girls who give you BBBJ. Also feel free to state that such and such club encourages their girls to do BBBJ. I will enjoy reading them for I will know which girls to go to for BBBJ and also which clubs I can expect more BBBJs from. I will read but I won't report accordingly.Fully online, in Shark or Oase BBBJ is available as before the 1st July, no issue with 90% of the girls mostly included in a hour session sometimes in a 50 euro one. Of course if you go with Brenda for her everything is extra even touching her breast, she has too many asian guys that she is cheating so much. Usually if you choose a average good looking girl you will get far better experience that with the stars who usually are over fucked and not eager to invest in the relation. They prefer one time customer, paying a lot just because they want to fuck a ISG forum Star.
It's not a question of rights. Nobody is forcefully taking away rights. What is being suggested is that, in fact, self-censorship lowers the value of the board, helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire. Those who think posting about BB services is bad for the hobby are wrong. In fact it's not posting about BB services that chips away at the hobby. Ditto for those suggesting only bachkchanneling via messaging.What do you think about guys posting that they have done bare back full sex in the club where they have done so? That would be entertaining for readers wouldn't it?
Massimo Potente
02-12-18, 14:49
What do you think about guys posting that they have done bare back full sex in the club where they have done so? That would be entertaining for readers wouldn't it?Well, some forums who solely exist on the premise of discussing Bareback are still in existance. Entertaining or not, they have an audience.
Does that make it easier for authorities to go after those guys "breaking the rules"? Of course, this makes it trivially easy. But will forums like that cease to exist. I think not. That said, a little reporting about BBBJ here on this board may not be the smartest move but it doesn't relevantly factor into the problem. As long as ISG has no policy on it, I guess, we cannot forbid anyone to say it out loud.
Establishing some kind of code would be better, maybe, but who will becone the codemaster?
ExpatLover
02-12-18, 15:43
Well, some forums who solely exist on the premise of discussing Bareback are still in existance. Entertaining or not, they have an audience.
Does that make it easier for authorities to go after those guys "breaking the rules"? Of course, this makes it trivially easy. But will forums like that cease to exist. I think not. That said, a little reporting about BBBJ here on this board may not be the smartest move but it doesn't relevantly factor into the problem. As long as ISG has no policy on it, I guess, we cannot forbid anyone to say it out loud.
Establishing some kind of code would be better, maybe, but who will becone the codemaster?Are the authorities willing to go against BBBJ obviously not, it is just not the target of the new law, don t mix fantasy and reality, the girls can do what they want as long they are registered and paying the income taxes which will strongly increase for most of the girls.
The law is having an effect. Advertising of bareback in Germany has declined, with some sites carrying adverts now from Austria, forums dedicated to bareback have become shadows of their former selves, adverts very often now do not show addresses, girls are being registered and instructed about safe sex, prices for bareback are rising signficantly in some places, and some workers have left the business.
Future effects of the law cannot be known, but possibilities range from none beyond those already seen, to closure of clubs known to be facilitating illegal activities. For example a political storm could erupt as a result of an "investigative" reporter getting a scoop story based on internet forums: if I were a feminist reporter trying to make a name I would go for that. Look at the attacks aimed at the charity sector as a result of a scandal around Oxfam, or Weinstein aftereffects. Things are unpredictable: the business of prostitution has plenty of enemies looking for loose threads to latch on to
ExpatLover
02-12-18, 17:01
The law is having an effect. Advertising of bareback in Germany has declined, with some sites carrying adverts now from Austria, forums dedicated to bareback have become shadows of their former selves, adverts very often now do not show addresses, girls are being registered and instructed about safe sex, prices for bareback are rising signficantly in some places, and some workers have left the business.
Future effects of the law cannot be known, but possibilities range from none beyond those already seen, to closure of clubs known to be facilitating illegal activities. For example a political storm could erupt as a result of an "investigative" reporter getting a scoop story based on internet forums: if I were a feminist reporter trying to make a name I would go for that. Look at the attacks aimed at the charity sector as a result of a scandal around Oxfam, or Weinstein aftereffects. Things are unpredictable: the business of prostitution has plenty of enemies looking for loose threads to latch on toThe BM of the big clubs was to keep the demand high and steady by bringing new girls in every week, since January my feeling is that very few new and fresh girls are entering the big clubs in Germany, new girls are coming but mostly no young one, German senior mongers like me we don't like to fuck those kind of girls who were fucked 20000 or more times in their lives we prefer to go to sauna and let them being fucked by the tourists who are not aware about it. Probably you are right in the coming years half of the clubs could close their doors due to different reasons but one could be a lack of fresh girls stimulating the demand of the senior mongers with high level of expectations.
Basically assumptions are the mother of all fuckups, and we want to avoid handing the wrong people any assumptions. Right or wrong.
A few years ago at Artemis there was one girl who claimed another girl was doing too much in the room. They froze her out even if she hadn't done it. All based on an assumption. Even a wrong one.
ExpatLover
02-12-18, 22:08
Basically assumptions are the mother of all fuckups, and we want to avoid handing the wrong people any assumptions. Right or wrong.
A few years ago at Artemis there was one girl who claimed another girl was doing too much in the room. They froze her out even if she hadn't done it. All based on an assumption. Even a wrong one.But this is happening very often just because you should be aware that some girls are fucking with the managers of the clubs, for example in Oase, Shark or Artemis many girls told me about it but this never happen at World. After that very easy for the girls to push the managers to exit that or that girl who is creating too much competition. FKK clubs are a specific world with very specific rules, it is better that many mongers are not aware about what is behind the scene. The girls are prostitutes earning for some of them huge amount of cash obviously this is attracting a lot of guys around them let us not be too naive, clever and educate girls are not prostitutes or if not a long time. When a girl is more than 2.5 or even 10 years a prostitute believe me there is a big problem somewhere. Just think about your family. Friends. How many girls are prostitutes? Being a prostitutes is not a normal job and is not without strong collateral effects for most of the girls.
Thank you Danny227. Gives me comfort for the future.
I hate competing for girls at Sharks to "complete" as you describe. There seems to be a queue of guys wanting the brand names like Helen, Mandy and Evita at Sharks.Typo, I meant compete.
Made a change to Oase for Thursday of this trip.
The line up for me was hot.
There was a lot of guys. Maybe they are the early guys for the Messe come to set up and do meetings before the conference days. Asians and Turks.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
The rooms were busy so there was waits for the rooms.
Hardly any German House Guests.
Just Italian, Ottoman and East Asians. English was the language to communicate.
The line up was to my liking. A nice change to the Sharks line up that is getting stale.
As I said in my Friday Sharks report in its respective threads the Sharks line up has become boring..LOL, what are sharks brand names? Have not seen any brands at sharks in a very long time. The thing about Oase, it has not changed from previously, from my experience, as compared to many other clubs. LU and performance is much better than at Sharks ATM. This is highly subjective tho.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 13:50
What do you think about guys posting that they have done bare back full sex in the club where they have done so? That would be entertaining for readers wouldn't it?I would like more reports and posts about this topic please.
I would find the information more than entertaining especially if the information is actionable information.
Good idea. Thank you for raising the proposal to encourage this reporting.
ExpatLover
02-14-18, 15:35
I would like more reports and posts about this topic please.
I would find the information more than entertaining especially if the information is actionable information.
Good idea. Thank you for raising the proposal to encourage this reporting.We all know that nothing have changed since the implementation of the new law just may be a increase in the prices and more upselling and the possibility for the girls to refuse to do BBBJ with no clean or attractive guys that's all. No need to spend hours and hours to speak about that.
Speaking of bareback. I was offered this on my visit in mid-December for the first time ever. I'm not sure what I've done wrong previously to never have been offered.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 20:04
Speaking of bareback. I was offered this on my visit in mid-December for the first time ever. I'm not sure what I've done wrong previously to never have been offered.Cool. What else?
Who was she and what did your do? Did you fuck her AO and was it no extra money?
You are a lucky man. Go buy a lottery ticket right now.
Could you surmise what you were doing wrong previously such as asking for a condom or pulling for a condom from her purse since you want to fuck?
ExpatLover
02-14-18, 20:11
Speaking of bareback. I was offered this on my visit in mid-December for the first time ever. I'm not sure what I've done wrong previously to never have been offered.If you want to stay healthy it is better to refuse it, a little bit more pleasure with a prostitutes is not worth the risk taken, if she propose it to you she has done it to many others. I always refuse it and stop to go with this girl, even I don't want to kiss her anymore or to lick her.
In the end I decided to not go for it.
ExpatLover
02-14-18, 21:02
The price was 200 including the normal 50 for 30 minutes. I have no idea if that's fair or not. In the end I decided to not go for it.Best decision especially if you have wife or fix GF, too too dangerous and also the risk to transmit some disease to the people you love, little bit additional pleasure not worth it.
BigBuddy69
02-14-18, 21:33
So the extra cost was 150 euros? Better go in a real ao club, it's cheaper.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 21:51
So the extra cost was 150 euros? Better go in a real ao club, it's cheaper.How did you get 150 bucks when Ararat never mentioned a price tag?
Is that what is in your experience is the price of extra for AO?
Member #4585
02-14-18, 21:52
In the end I decided to not go for it.Would you share your reasoning to decline AO?
I know many guys turn it down but the reasons are anything from newbie nerves to I don't have the money. No one seems to raise the issue of disease is the problem.
How did you get 150 bucks when Ararat never mentioned a price tag?
Is that what you pay as extra for AO?Ararat edited his post. The original post said 200 e for half hour.
ExpatLover
02-14-18, 22:03
Would you share your reasoning to decline AO?
I know many guys turn it down but the reasons are anything from newbie nerves to I don't have the money. No one seems to raise the issue of disease is the problem.For me even for free I will not do it, one time a escort in Stuttgart proposed it to me I refused, my health is more important that some hypothetical additional pleasure, I don't want to do AO with prostitutes, this is something that I keep for me when I am in love, prostitutes are not worth it. Prostitutes are here to be fucked for the less money possible but sometimes guys are forgetting those very simple principal, I always repeat the same if you don't believe they are prostitutes, go to your favorite girls in any big club and tell her sorry today I have no money but I want to go with you to the room, guess what will be the answer. No money no sex for sure.
LOL, what are sharks brand names? Have not seen any brands at sharks in a very long time. The thing about Oase, it has not changed from previously, from my experience, as compared to many other clubs. LU and performance is much better than at Sharks ATM. This is highly subjective tho.I agree, there was a period when Oase girls were pushing for 150 euro hours that turnd me away. That thankfully has subsided and the girls seem happy with 100 euro hours.
For me a 1 HR room at Oase has generally been superior to Sharks' 1 HR rooms. There was something dirtier, more passionate with the Oase girls when they didn't hold back. I preferred Sharks for a while because I knew I was able to try new girls for 50 euro and would get their best before committing to 1 hour rooms. Now with the upselling from 19 and 20 year olds at Sharks, I'm better off spending my 100 euro on girls at Oase, who on average seem to be more sexually apt than the average Sharks teenie bopper.
Plus. All the mirrors in nearly every room.
BigBuddy69
02-14-18, 22:10
How did you get 150 bucks when Ararat never mentioned a price tag?
Is that what is in your experience is the price of extra for AO?No, the only time I experienced ao in a regular club it was for free, actually I even got a nice little gonorrhea as a bonus.
So the extra cost was 150 euros? Better go in a real ao club, it's cheaper.No interest at all to be the tenth of the day to bareback fuck a ugly girl at Dietzenbach, or F39 , but if you make cum a beauty with your foreplay, and if she forget the condom, trusting you and running into passion, then the game become interesting, and she doesn't even ask for extra money. On next time, you think she will think it was a mistake, but no condom proposed, and she says: I enjoy more like this. Then, you just have to be very careful for your health, meaning better not to risk with any girl, but only one you can really trust, and better to be careful about pregnancy.
Can be less expensive than 30 € in AO clubs.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 22:37
Ararat edited his post. The original post said 200 e for half hour.Cool. Now we have a pricing that one can anchor their expectations on.
I have heard all sorts of pricing from free to ridiculous prices. What a Ottoman would paid versus what an Asian would pay versus what an American would pay.
Does not seem a distinct pricing for Europeans. Random. The Youppie boys and our resident ex Youppie poet always boast and take pride about being cheap Charlies.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 22:41
No, the only time I experienced ao in a regular club it was for free, actually I even got a nice little gonorrhea as a bonus.Nice little reminder.
Always spray your cock and balls at the end of the night with anti fungal or that anti bacterial thing you get at the DM. You know the one. The one that says kills 99.9 percent of bacteria and germs. The label has got to be right.
Given you honest admission forgive me that I will not shake your hand when I meet you next then. No offence given. I have a clean slate and want to keep it that way.
I heard you can get AIDS off toliet seats too. Joking.
Rogue Nation
02-14-18, 22:52
Cool. What else?
Who was she and what did your do? Did you fuck her AO and was it no extra money?
You are a lucky man. Go buy a lottery ticket right now.
Could you surmise what you were doing wrong previously such as asking for a condom or pulling for a condom from her purse since you want to fuck?s this trolling around or seriously asking for names of girls who do bb?
Member #4585
02-14-18, 23:23
LOL, what are sharks brand names? Have not seen any brands at sharks in a very long time. The thing about Oase, it has not changed from previously, from my experience, as compared to many other clubs. LU and performance is much better than at Sharks ATM. This is highly subjective tho.Danny227,
These Sharks brand names are the girls that men fly half way across the world or the tourists that drive from OWL, NRW, Bayern, BW or Rhineland Pflaz to see a particular girl in Sharks.
These are the girls that men go to Sharks reception asking if Helen or Mandy is working today or can they point out that girl to them. Why.
Ou hear older gents at the bar tipping the bar maid and asking can she tell him which girl is Mandy or Evita?
These are the girls whose names are repeated over and over again by reporters asking about Mandy, Helen and Evita.
I agree that Oase is where it is at now. My euro bucks are coming to Oase.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 23:36
I agree, there was a period when Oase girls were pushing for 150 euro hours that turnd me away. That thankfully has subsided and the girls seem happy with 100 euro hours.
For me a 1 HR room at Oase has generally been superior to Sharks' 1 HR rooms. There was something dirtier, more passionate with the Oase girls when they didnt hold back. I preferred Sharks for a while because I knew I was able to try new girls for 50 euro and would get their best before commiting to 1 hour rooms. Now with the upselling from 19 and 20 year olds at Sharks, I'm better off spending my 100 euro on girls at Oase, who on average seem to be more sexually apt than the average Sharks teenie bopper.
Plus. All the mirrors in nearly every room😇.I know what you mean. Hey, I have been there, man.
Sharks sessions feel so clinical. The Oase sessions feel like you are dealing to a girlfriend. No words and no "No". Oase girls do not in general feel like they hold back their services like a Shark does. I can get lost into the session whereas the Sharks sessions I can feel my myself counting down the bucks I need to pay for the session as the price totes up in the market.
Sharks does have a lot of teens, if you like that sort of look, but they are not the best quality for looks. The Sharks pole dancers, although older on average than the teenie boppers are much better lookers in my opinion. That is why the Sharks pole dancer group are so popular with the Ottomans and Asians.
Nice little reminder.
Always spray your cock and balls at the end of the night with anti fungal or that anti bacterial thing you get at the DM. You know the one. The one that says kills 99.9 percent of bacteria and germs. The label has got to be right.You guys are hilarious.
I have seen that very spray in the Sharks toilets by the way. Now I know what it is for.
Anyways all the AO talk has become more intense now since it was recommended to not really discuss it. Truly hilarious.
Member #4585
02-14-18, 23:45
In the end I decided to not go for it.Ararat you have great restraint. Total respect.
I remember when there was a big disease with a little name: AIDS when it came out. There was a discussion among concerned citizens of the polis who all swore on oath that for all their sexual needs they would be using rubbers like they were the manna from heaven.
I was sat with my Dad who was a practical man. Little schooling but he was a realist. He heard this and was disgusted.
Then there was one smooth dude with the threads that make him look like the Don Johnson from the Miami Vice TV show. This man he say, this is all BS. What they fuck are you all smoking? This man say if in the heat of the night you have some lady open her legs to you, your cock is turning purple from its blood engorgement as it is so excited and she ask you to do it and you are going to say no? You are going to say sorry I need to go get a condom.
Great restraint is all I say. Man made in His image.
Neurosynth
02-15-18, 00:25
It's notable that other than the one reported raid that gets repeated over and over again, other reports of the impact of this new law do not actually involve the police.
Yes, of course some of the women who choose to not provide AO, or even BBBJ, are going to pressure and give a hard time to women who do. **They have always done this. Even before the new law. ** They put themselves at a competitive disadvantage, and rather than upping their game, they choose to drag the service of other girls down. Our favorite girls get yelled at by their inferiors for "doing too much. " They always have.
On German boards attitudes are split. Some tell other posters to not talk about BBBJ or AO. Some post freely. And then they argue about it. The Germans are split on this just like the Americans. This should not be surprising. They have no patent on insight or data.
To the extent that local management gets a say in this, they have occasionally posted that they don't want posters to tell other posters to not post about BB services.
I agree, there was a period when Oase girls were pushing for 150 euro hours that turnd me away. That thankfully has subsided and the girls seem happy with 100 euro hours.
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Plus. All the mirrors in nearly every room😇.Ah yes, I now remembering 2017 Oase. One ambitious teenie I ask her name. She snarl, share no name, and just say "100 euro pay first 30 minute." Such poor attitude, likely possible worse when in room (as in 100 euro and then she try to leave after 5 minute). Small amount of other girl demanding to pay before entering room, declined. Now in February 2018, I do not see these girl with such bad manner at Oase. Hope they have retire for good from all FKK.
Yes, so many mirror at Oase really enhance the experience, especially when receive double oral from two beautiful girl.
Member #4585
02-15-18, 03:17
You guys are hilarious. I have seen that very spray in the Sharks toilets by the way. Now I know what it is for.
Anyways all the AO talk has become more intense now since it was recommended to not really discuss it. Truly hilarious.MonSooner,
We aim to please and entertain you. Keep safe out there.
Lastly, please reconcile your last paragraph's comment with what Neurosynth has to say below:
To the extent that local management gets a say in this, they have occasionally posted that they don't want posters to tell other posters to not post about BB services.
Kosher Kowboy
02-15-18, 04:03
No interest at all to be the tenth of the day to bareback fuck a ugly girl at Dietzenbach.I would not want to be the tenth of the day either, being number fifteen or twenty is much more enjoyable :D
I would like more reports and posts about this topic please.
I was offered this highly desired personalized service at Oase on my first visit there in 2016 when I could not cum in the the condom. She told me 500 e and I was not interested finally she came down to 200 e. I have no clue if this meant 200 e total for the session including the 50 e room for a half and half or 250 e total.
In the event Oase becomes an Adult Day Care Center for the Affluent and Distinguished Gentlemen than I too would like to hear more about this topic.
AO was also offered at Artemis but declined (think she asked for 1000 e) and AO was also offered and perhaps enjoyed with one or two girls at Mainhatten.
However I can not provide reports nor names for the privacy of those that may have been a participant in a latex free session.
Or two or three.
Maybe four.
Both the 500 e initial offer at Oase and the 1000 e offer at Artemis happened on my very first visit to Germany and I remembered I answered ' yes' to the ' Is this your first time here' question they always ask. They were looking for a big pay day.
But it also leads me to assume with those offers that AO goes on constant and often at all clubs where Johns fuck the Classy and Elegant version of the Gypsies.
It's notable that other than the one reported raid that gets repeated over and over again, other reports of the impact of this new law do not actually involve the police.
Yes, of course some of the women who choose to not provide AO, or even BBBJ, are going to pressure and give a hard time to women who do. **They have always done this. Even before the new law. ** They put themselves at a competitive disadvantage, and rather than upping their game, they choose to drag the service of other girls down. Our favorite girls get yelled at by their inferiors for "doing too much. " They always have.The enforceability of the law itself is not the biggest issue.
The fact that it is an actual law rather than just club policy, with the clubs now actually having some legal liability, combined with the fact that there are explicit signs in FKKs all over Germany, it’s in the forefront of the girls’ minds. Breaking the Kondompflicht is used by competing WGs more ferociously.
The effect is not science its not common sense.
ExpatLover
02-15-18, 06:44
I would not want to be the tenth of the day either, being number fifteen or twenty is much more enjoyable :D
I was offered this highly desired personalized service at Oase on my first visit there in 2016 when I could not cum in the the condom. She told me 500 e and I was not interested finally she came down to 200 e. I have no clue if this meant 200 e total for the session including the 50 e room for a half and half or 250 e total.
In the event Oase becomes an Adult Day Care Center for the Affluent and Distinguished Gentlemen than I too would like to hear more about this topic.
AO was also offered at Artemis but declined (think she asked for 1000 e) and AO was also offered and perhaps enjoyed with one or two girls at Mainhatten.
However I can not provide reports nor names for the privacy of those that may have been a participant in a latex free session.
Or two or three.
Maybe four.
Both the 500 e initial offer at Oase and the 1000 e offer at Artemis happened on my very first visit to Germany and I remembered I answered ' yes' to the ' Is this your first time here' question they always ask. They were looking for a big pay day.
But it also leads me to assume with those offers that AO goes on constant and often at all clubs where Johns fuck the Classy and Elegant version of the Gypsies.AO was and is still available everywhere but only offered by the most stupid and desperate girls, now it is your choice to put your health at high risk, I will not do it my life is far more important that the little bit more pleasure to fuck a prostitute.
ExpatLover
02-15-18, 07:31
I know what you mean. Hey, I have been there, man.
Sharks sessions feel so clinical. The Oase sessions feel like you are dealing to a girlfriend. No words and no "No". Oase girls do not in general feel like they hold back their services like a Shark does. I can get lost into the session whereas the Sharks sessions I can feel my myself counting down the bucks I need to pay for the session as the price totes up in the market.
Sharks does have a lot of teens, if you like that sort of look, but they are not the best quality for looks. The Sharks pole dancers, although older on average than the teenie boppers are much better lookers in my opinion. That is why the Sharks pole dancer group are so popular with the Ottomans and Asians.Shark has a lot of teens, are you joking, there a very few girls under 20 believe me I checked it with the receptionist, the sessions are the same in Oase and Shark it just depends on the chemistry between the people. Mostly it is difficult to get the same quality of sex with a prostitutes than with your wife or GF just because the most important thing is missing love which boost the emotions and sex is in the mind. After so many years I am only getting great sex with a young German escort, but we meet every week and each time it is better but obviously nothing the compare with the sex in a club, the girls just sex too much every day to keep some freshness, imagine you can fuck for free so much you want your favorite in a club I am sure that after several days you will get bored.
Rogue Nation
02-15-18, 09:16
On German boards attitudes are split. Some tell other posters to not talk about BBBJ or AO. Some post freely. And then they argue about it. The Germans are split on this just like the Americans. This should not be surprising. They have no patent on insight or data.Not really. It is a little more complicated. Most "serious" boards have a strict policy to comply with the law and not post about BB services (BBBJ or BB) anymore. Those are the majority. So a report will say blowjob and that is it. As the law is CBJ it must have been that. There are boards with non public sections. In those you find reports about BB and BBBJ. Makes sense for me.
There are a few "AO" boards who never cared about the girls and openly posted (and still post) about BB services. Full BB and BBBJ. Causing trouble for girls and forum members as well. If you look at the level of discussion and choice of words plus the level of moderation you will see that those boards are crap.
Rogue Nation
02-15-18, 09:20
Sharks sessions feel so clinical. The Oase sessions feel like you are dealing to a girlfriend. No words and no "No". Oase girls do not in general feel like they hold back their services like a Shark does. I can get lost into the session whereas the Sharks sessions I can feel my myself counting down the bucks I need to pay for the session as the price totes up in the market.Nothing to generalize about. Oase service levels are not any better than Sharks. Lots of girls trying to cut down service time to 15 min or telling you the standard session 50 EUR /30 min does NOT include kissing, DFK or DATY, it is just BJ and sex. They will try to sell you half an hour for 100 EUR or at least get an extra sold in the 30 min session.
Danny227,
These Sharks brand names are the girls that men fly half way across the world or the tourists that drive from OWL, NRW, Bayern, BW or Rhineland Pflaz to see a particular girl in Sharks.
These are the girls that men go to Sharks reception asking if Helen or Mandy is working today or can they point out that girl to them. Why.
Ou hear older gents at the bar tipping the bar maid and asking can she tell him which girl is Mandy or Evita?
These are the girls whose names are repeated over and over again by reporters asking about Mandy, Helen and Evita.
I agree that Oase is where it is at now. My euro bucks are coming to Oase.Slightly disagree on the definition of brand name; I don't think that the girls that people drive for are all brand names, and but some are. For me Mandy service is not amazing, but she gives it all for 50 E and she is quite beautiful. Her skill level is not in the same ball park as Evita.
Evita is super service, super illusion and falls under brand name, but not many left at Sharks that are like Evita, if at all. Nothing comes to mind now.
Sharks became a collection of good looking mediocre girls in terms of service. The natural service culture changed and with so many girls coming from clubs across Germany. Each bringing a different service mentality. Sharks lost a bit of its personality (for example, oase we know what we get, we know palace, we know GT, we know Artemis) and turned in to a huge metropolitan city, hosting a tone of cultures. This is just my two cents.
Plus service level in the kitchen and bar is declining.
I know my answer is a bit more than discussed, but overall, yep, I don't visit sharks anymore as much, so I agree.
Girls at the "respectable" clubs like Oase who are believed by the management to do bareback or deal / take drugs have been bundled out of the clubs immediately, given only minutes to collect their belongings and leave. I have seen this several times, on two occasions I was actually with a girl who was evicted :( The new law and the political climate engendering the law, (the probability that the law is largely unenforcible in relation to the individual customers is a red herring) increase the incentives for the clubs to be seen as respectable and remove any hint of barebacking.
Like drug use, it will go on, but no girl or club will want to be identified with it (unless some bright spark works out a business opportunity to be made by challenging the law).
Nothing to generalize about. Oase service levels are not any better than Sharks. Lots of girls trying to cut down service time to 15 min or telling you the standard session 50 EUR /30 min does NOT include kissing, DFK or DATY, it is just BJ and sex. They will try to sell you half an hour for 100 EUR or at least get an extra sold in the 30 min session.I agree that 50 euro sessions at Oase suck, as much if not worse than at Sharks. However I think Bitumen and I were both reflecting on the fact that the average 1 HR room at Oase is superior than Sharks. Something about either the club itself or the current girls is dirtier in a good way.
Rogue Nation
02-15-18, 18:41
Idk if there is a big difference between Darmstadt and Burgholzhausen regarding service levels in a 100€/60 min session. Depends on the girl. Not so much the location.
ExpatLover
02-15-18, 20:28
Slightly disagree on the definition of brand name; I don't think that the girls that people drive for are all brand names, and but some are. For me Mandy service is not amazing, but she gives it all for 50 E and she is quite beautiful. Her skill level is not in the same ball park as Evita.
Evita is super service, super illusion and falls under brand name, but not many left at Sharks that are like Evita, if at all. Nothing comes to mind now.
Sharks became a collection of good looking mediocre girls in terms of service. The natural service culture changed and with so many girls coming from clubs across Germany. Each bringing a different service mentality. Sharks lost a bit of its personality (for example, oase we know what we get, we know palace, we know GT, we know Artemis) and turned in to a huge metropolitan city, hosting a tone of cultures. This is just my two cents.
Plus service level in the kitchen and bar is declining.
I know my answer is a bit more than discussed, but overall, yep, I don't visit sharks anymore as much, so I agree.The service level is going down everywhere just because it is always the same girls moving from 1 club to another and trying to reduce their service level but never forgetting to suck our cash. If a new girl is giving too much immediately the other girls will push her to reduce the service level, the girls have 0 respect for their clients, we just buy illusions nothing more. Are you aware how many girls are fucking even they have their red days? Sorry if they respect us they will not do it.
ExpatLover
02-15-18, 21:09
Nothing to generalize about. Oase service levels are not any better than Sharks. Lots of girls trying to cut down service time to 15 min or telling you the standard session 50 EUR /30 min does NOT include kissing, DFK or DATY, it is just BJ and sex. They will try to sell you half an hour for 100 EUR or at least get an extra sold in the 30 min session.Your report reflects exactly my own experience, difficult to get something nice for 50 euro, most of the girls are pushing a lot for extra this club is following Palace and Manhattan, for me just a no go club until the management will regain the control of the things but I seriously doubt about it.
....On German boards attitudes are split. Some tell other posters to not talk about BBBJ or AO. Some post freely. And then they argue about it. The Germans are split on this just like the Americans. This should not be surprising. They have no patent on insight or data. To the extent that local management gets a say in this, they have occasionally posted that they don't want posters to tell other posters to not post about BB services.I must commend ISG posters. So much talk about BBBJ and BBFS but no mention of girls' names nor clubs. Very entertaining and responsible. I am old enough to have had hundreds of bare back full sex sessions with working girls prior to the 80's. Then AIDS came around and I reluctantly had to cover up to protect my health. Now there is a law in Germany about no BBBJ and here I am in Brazil getting tons of BBBJ and as much DFK as I can stand. Still looking forward to visiting FKKland later this year though.
BadinSweet
02-15-18, 22:25
Anyone seen Elizabeth HUN lately? Have not seen her for a while. On a side note, Adele is in ROM and should be back next week.
Der Auslander
02-16-18, 00:27
But it also leads me to assume with those offers that AO goes on constant and often at all clubs where Johns fuck the Classy and Elegant version of the Gypsies.Happens in all FKK Sauna establishments including all the MEGA-clubs. Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.
Kosher Kowboy
02-16-18, 00:33
Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.I agree it goes on everywhere.
And they also use it to steal other girls clients especially if it is a high roller. Seems no different than any other market anywhere. There will always be a segment of guys in any locale or venue that desire bareback sex and there will always be a WG to soak up the profits from such desires.
Anyone seen Elizabeth HUN lately? Have not seen her for a while. On a side note, Adele is in ROM and should be back next week.I didn't see Elizabet. Hu on 2 last Saturday, but I saw Adela, far prettier for me.
Some good surprises, more for behavior than performances. After a great breakfast, Oase is becoming enjoyable about few attractive girls.
About the service Oase-Sharks discussion. Sharks used to be slightly above in average. But some of the new sharks girls lately are below the average Oase girl. Then again, there are still great sharks providers, so average is hard to work out. So I am also leaning towards this being a girl by girl case rather than a club by club case. For the time being at least.
Is this Christina, small ROM, dark or Brunette, long hair, have a cross tattoo? I thought she has a very nice body. Though I don't normally take her, she always smile and say Hi to me. A very nice gal with no pressure outside the room.I spent several hours with her on 2 separate occasions at Oase. She was kind of upselly but I had cash to burn and I find 19 year old with her body type irresistible. And her blowjob skills were some of the best I have ever experienced.
Member #4585
02-16-18, 05:32
I must commend ISG posters. So much talk about BBBJ and BBFS but no mention of girls' names nor clubs. Very entertaining and responsible. I am old enough to have had hundreds of bare back full sex sessions with working girls prior to the 80's. Then AIDS came around and I reluctantly had to cover up to protect my health. Now there is a law in Germany about no BBBJ and here I am in Brazil getting tons of BBBJ and as much DFK as I can stand. Still looking forward to visiting FKKland later this year though.But Turgid, if you read carefully you will see several clubs are mentioned.
Guys,
Has anyone seen Kathy lately?
ExpatLover
02-16-18, 09:33
Happens in all FKK Sauna establishments including all the MEGA-clubs. Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.True and it is showing how stupid the girls are, and also the mongers, paying more to get the risk to be sick it is a real nonsense.
I agree that 50 euro sessions at Oase suck, as much if not worse than at Sharks. However I think Bitumen and I were both reflecting on the fact that the average 1 HR room at Oase is superior than Sharks. Something about either the club itself or the current girls is dirtier in a good way.Absolutely.
Massimo Potente
02-16-18, 13:05
Happens in all FKK Sauna establishments including all the MEGA-clubs. Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.Of course and there isn't even anything wrong with it because it is normal. But it has never been offered to me, NEVER. That's why it is weird to me that I often hear people were offered it. Probably the girls find it unnecessary to offer it because I am easy like that.
ExpatLover
02-16-18, 15:38
Of course and there isn't even anything wrong with it because it is normal. But it has never been offered to me, NEVER. That's why it is weird to me that I often hear people were offered it. Probably the girls find it unnecessary to offer it because I am easy like that.Never offer to me too, but if you ask you can get it, that is for sure but probably not with the youngest and prettiest one, the girls who propose it are mostly desperate.
BadinSweet
02-16-18, 21:21
Thanks for the info about Elizabeth Siri.
Kathy = Kati (ex World Britney?) She is still back in ROM and doesn't really know when she wants to come back. She took many months off last time when she was home too.
Anyone seen Elizabeth HUN lately? Have not seen her for a while. On a side note, Adele is in ROM and should be back next week.How is the service level from Adele?
Der Auslander
02-16-18, 23:58
I agree it goes on everywhere. And they also use it to steal other girls clients especially if it is a high roller. Seems no different than any other market anywhere. There will always be a segment of guys in any locale or venue that desire bareback sex and there will always be a WG to soak up the profits from such desires.
Of course and there isn't even anything wrong with it because it is normal. But it has never been offered to me, NEVER. That's why it is weird to me that I often hear people were offered it. Probably the girls find it unnecessary to offer it because I am easy like that.Got to say KK even the best looking girls in the club will try to keep repeat business, specially if their customer is easy to manage and prepared to drop several hundred euros per visit, be that visit once a week or once a month or maybe even more often! Money in the Bank of WG so to speak and not necessarily any WG, sometimes the top girls if the regular financial inducement is of sufficient interest. That said the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the Money Guy probably will have to treat his WG like a Club Wife and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his WG Wifey might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.
Massimo P I got to agree with you when you say "normal" as I would imagine it rather hard to resist a top notch WG, if she's making eyes at you and more importantly making you special offers! Whats a poor guy (well actually a guy with enough cash) to do! So no frowns from me if someone takes up this type of special deal. Do I detect a hint of disapproval there Kosher K? That said, and like you and Massimo P, I can't say that I've had many of these offers myself as I prefer to butterfly with this type of lady but friends / acquaintances have been on the receiving end of a deal or two of this type.
Anyway, I think we are all more or less on the same page with this one!
ExpatLover
02-17-18, 03:38
Got to say KK even the best looking girls in the club will try to keep repeat business, specially if their customer is easy to manage and prepared to drop several hundred euros per visit, be that visit once a week or once a month or maybe even more often! Money in the Bank of WG so to speak and not necessarily any WG, sometimes the top girls if the regular financial inducement is of sufficient interest. That said the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the Money Guy probably will have to treat his WG like a Club Wife and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his WG Wifey might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.
Massimo P I got to agree with you when you say "normal" as I would imagine it rather hard to resist a top notch WG, if she's making eyes at you and more importantly making you special offers! Whats a poor guy (well actually a guy with enough cash) to do! So no frowns from me if someone takes up this type of special deal. Do I detect a hint of disapproval there Kosher K? That said, and like you and Massimo P, I can't say that I've had many of these offers myself as I prefer to butterfly with this type of lady but friends / acquaintances have been on the receiving end of a deal or two of this type.
Anyway, I think we are all more or less on the same page with this one!The girls are fucked so many times every days why should the guys stick to his favorite in the club, not long ago one girl told me at Oase that I have only to go with her, my answer was just okay but you do the same, but that is my job, I told her this is not a job to get fucked every day by every one putting 50 eur on the table. She stopped putting pressure on me and I stopped to go to the room with her as simple as that.
ExpatLover
02-17-18, 03:43
Got to say KK even the best looking girls in the club will try to keep repeat business, specially if their customer is easy to manage and prepared to drop several hundred euros per visit, be that visit once a week or once a month or maybe even more often! Money in the Bank of WG so to speak and not necessarily any WG, sometimes the top girls if the regular financial inducement is of sufficient interest. That said the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the Money Guy probably will have to treat his WG like a Club Wife and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his WG Wifey might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.
Massimo P I got to agree with you when you say "normal" as I would imagine it rather hard to resist a top notch WG, if she's making eyes at you and more importantly making you special offers! Whats a poor guy (well actually a guy with enough cash) to do! So no frowns from me if someone takes up this type of special deal. Do I detect a hint of disapproval there Kosher K? That said, and like you and Massimo P, I can't say that I've had many of these offers myself as I prefer to butterfly with this type of lady but friends / acquaintances have been on the receiving end of a deal or two of this type.
Anyway, I think we are all more or less on the same page with this one!The girls are fucked so many times every days why should the guys stick to his favorite in the club, not long ago one girl told me at Oase that I have only to go with her, my answer was just okay but you do the same, but that is my job, I told her this is not a job to get fucked every day by every one putting 50 eur on the table. She stopped putting pressure on me and I stopped to go to the room with her as simple as that. I am getting more and more upset by those prostitutes who are not to stay where they are that means on the bottom level of the society, everywhere you go starting in Roumania a prostitute is really badly considered which on 1 side makes some sense. They are always trying to cheat, you can t believe what they say, my mother is sick, I need to pay the loan. Please give me money.
the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the Money Guy probably will have to treat his WG like a Club Wife and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his WG Wifey might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.This happens all the time, yet it is the one thing I cannot completely understand with girls in FKK's. Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. But that is one big maybe. I just do not completely understand this in every case.
Had a girl telling me 'we go now, or I don't ever go with you again' on my last trip. And I've heard the same in the past a few times also. And it seems these things happen to other guys also. One thing is that we are men and can't fuck every hour. Another thing is that we are not married. If they want the marriage but we refuse, then will they also say no to our money? And if they want the marriage and we say yes, shouldn't that give us free sex outside of the FKK? LOL.
TankTank123
02-18-18, 02:44
Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. Well, I can give you one explanation. There was a girl in one of the Hessen clubs whom I always had 2-3 hour sessions with every time I visited that club. Then, during one of my visits, she arrived late and so I took another girl. This new girl was so good I spent the whole afternoon with her. And I took this new girl again for a long time the next day.
In my next visit the following week, the new girl had left the club. When I approached my old regular, she refused to speak to me again. That shut her out from an assured stream of future income. It was certainly not emotional attachment, and she was not making a point. I found out from another girl (and verified this with other girls) that she had to reject me out of pride, and embarrassment among her friends that I had preferred someone else to her. So she told the other girls: "I can do without him".
But this was a rare exception. In other cases where I skipped a regular 'wife', they would come back with increased fervour in subsequent visits to regain my favour so as to be assured of their income stream.
ExpatLover
02-18-18, 03:59
Well, I can give you one explanation. There was a girl in one of the Hessen clubs whom I always had 2-3 hour sessions with every time I visited that club. Then, during one of my visits, she arrived late and so I took another girl. This new girl was so good I spent the whole afternoon with her. And I took this new girl again for a long time the next day.
In my next visit the following week, the new girl had left the club. When I approached my old regular, she refused to speak to me again. That shut her out from an assured stream of future income. It was certainly not emotional attachment, and she was not making a point. I found out from another girl (and verified this with other girls) that she had to reject me out of pride, and embarrassment among her friends that I had preferred someone else to her. So she told the other girls: "I can do without him".
But this was a rare exception. In other cases where I skipped a regular 'wife', they would come back with increased fervour in subsequent visits to regain my favour so as to be assured of their income stream.Probably your club could be World, very good example demonstrating again how stupid those Romanian prostitutes are. They get fucked every day many times for some in theirs 3 wholes but they deny the right for their clients to session other girls, I always immediately blacklist those kind of girl a no go for me.
ExpatLover
02-18-18, 04:05
This happens all the time, yet it is the one thing I cannot completely understand with girls in FKK's. Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. But that is one big maybe. I just do not completely understand this in every case.
Had a girl telling me 'we go now, or I don't ever go with you again' on my last trip. And I've heard the same in the past a few times also. And it seems these things happen to other guys also. One thing is that we are men and can't fuck every hour. Another thing is that we are not married. If they want the marriage but we refuse, then will they also say no to our money? And if they want the marriage and we say yes, shouldn't that give us free sex outside of the FKK? LOL.Better we don't try to understand everything, those Romanian prostitutes are low educated, they are in the clubs because they are not able to do something else, there is no logic in their actions or behavior, we should never overestimate them. For ages the prostitutes belong to the lowest classes in the the society, it is still the case.
Der Auslander
02-18-18, 04:10
This happens all the time, yet it is the one thing I cannot completely understand with girls in FKK's. Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. But that is one big maybe. I just do not completely understand this in every case.
When I approached my old regular, she refused to speak to me again. That shut her out from an assured stream of future income. It was certainly not emotional attachment, and she was not making a point. I found out from another girl (and verified this with other girls) that she had to reject me out of pride, and embarrassment among her friends that I had preferred someone else to her. So she told the other girls: "I can do without him". But this was a rare exception. In other cases where I skipped a regular 'wife', they would come back with increased fervour in subsequent visits to regain my favour so as to be assured of their income stream.Well as they say "there's none so strange as folk! But you do come across all sorts in FKK / Sauna Clubs and all other such "dens of iniquity" or "palaces of pleasure" (depending on your viewpoint)! All sorts; be they those who frequent the clubs or those who work there! Over time I have seen some strange behaviors, from both the guys who visit and from the WGs who work in these establishments and difficult most of the time to figure out what is actually governing any such crazy behavior. In the type of instances we are talking about; hard to know what is going on in the head of a WG when she refuses a high paying customer on the grounds that he went with another club hooker! I've come across this type of occurrence on a number of occasions down through the years and generally speaking I put this behavior down to what is known as saving face which seems to be big driver of emotion in Oriental Culture but lesser understood in the Western Hemisphere. Of course there is always the possibility of some emotional attachment but generally speaking I would guess it more likely that the WG feels that she has been slighted by the Customer because he selected another in front of her WG colleagues! Obviously if the Guy is a regular and high paying customer who has spent a lot of time with the WG some emotional bond may have formed. She may have even formed some sort of emotional attachment to him or (more likely) his money! The girls who work in these clubs tend to come from tough enough backgrounds and may not be emotionally mature enough to handle any form of rejection or disappointment. The clubs themselves can be gossipy / bitchy places where not all girls get along and some WGs may delight in the downfall of another. Probably being put aside for another hooker in front of WG colleagues who you don't particularly like and also the loss of a pile of cash which should rightfully belong to her would put some WGs off their porridge and send them into an angry tailspin. To save face in front of their colleagues they just refuse to go with the customer again! My two cents!
Neurosynth
02-18-18, 06:00
Sex workers frequently have control issues. This, like sex work itself, can be a side effect of abuse. Sex work is an ongoing opportunity to rerun previous victimization, but this time ending up victorious. Or it could just be a reaction to the vulnerability or self-esteem damage that comes from having sex with large numbers of anonymous men. Nevertheless, control issues among sex workers is common.
Apparent irrationality on the part of sex workers becomes understandable once the control issue is factored in. The need for control will, for example, override profit motive.
So in this example, where a girl gives up apparently good money merely to spite a guy who stopped going with her for a while, it's about control. When the guy decides to stop seeing the girl he has taken control of the situation. And the girl just has to accept it. So when he comes back looking for a good time, the girl now has a chance to take control. She takes control by turning him down, even though it costs her money.
Keep in mind this notion that sex workers are often driven more by control issues than money. It explains a lot.
Euroknight
02-18-18, 09:29
I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?
ExpatLover
02-18-18, 10:13
I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?There was a Jamaican girl there 3 weeks ago, 22 YO went to the room also my first black, badly shaved, pussy smelling the none fresh fish definitively a no go for me, but very nice C cup natural.
ExpatLover
02-18-18, 10:35
Sex workers frequently have control issues. This, like sex work itself, can be a side effect of abuse. Sex work is an ongoing opportunity to rerun previous victimization, but this time ending up victorious. Or it could just be a reaction to the vulnerability or self-esteem damage that comes from having sex with large numbers of anonymous men. Nevertheless, control issues among sex workers is common.
Apparent irrationality on the part of sex workers becomes understandable once the control issue is factored in. The need for control will, for example, override profit motive.
So in this example, where a girl gives up apparently good money merely to spite a guy who stopped going with her for a while, it's about control. When the guy decides to stop seeing the girl he has taken control of the situation. And the girl just has to accept it. So when he comes back looking for a good time, the girl now has a chance to take control. She takes control by turning him down, even though it costs her money.
Keep in mind this notion that sex workers are often driven more by control issues than money. It explains a lot.Very interesting approach, I also believe that the prostitutes want to control their regular customer, it is at least one area where they can demonstrate some power otherwise they just open legs or mouth or asswhole and get fucked or penetrated without any control.
Massimo Potente
02-18-18, 13:33
I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?It was recently reported here that there are 2 or 3 black girls in Oase. And at least one of them is allegedly very good to session with.
Reef LostCause
02-18-18, 14:02
I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?I don't know what "puffy girl" means, but over the last year or so, I had sessions with both Tina and Queen (both from Ghana I believe), and they give excellent service.
There was another girl from Ghana that I got a good session from, with a strange name like "Blessings", but she was not as good looking and I'm not sure she's still there anyway.
I don't know what "puffy girl" means, but over the last year or so, I had sessions with both Tina and Queen (both from Ghana I believe), and they give excellent service.
There was another girl from Ghana that I got a good session from, with a strange name like "Blessings", but she was not as good looking and I'm not sure she's still there anyway.Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Back women provide better of service than most Romania in Osae.
ExpatLover
02-18-18, 15:49
Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Back women provide better of service than most Romania in Osae.Yes good GFE but not clean enough, bad pussy smell at least with me first time in 12 years, we have to admit that most of the Romanian girls are very clean at least one positive point.
BadinSweet
02-18-18, 16:59
Danny227, Adele service, depending on her mood, LOL. Though I am more connected with other girls, she is still one of my favorite girl there.
I have my own views regarding a girl who refuses a hitherto regular well paying client. In my very first visit to Rio de Janeiro many years ago I repeated with an extremely hot garota at a terma, then on my third visit there I saw an even hotter garota who I went directly to and avoided the first one, well, the first one pouted as hell. In my fourth visit I chose the first one who unhesitatingly went with me only asking why I did not go with her the previous time. My view is that when the first chosen girl refuses the regular client it means that she has gotten emotionally attached to that client and feels hurt that he avoided her. It means that she would have given up other clients for him in similar circumstances. Her refusal of him is her way of avoiding further heartbreak. Remember they are human.
Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Back women provide better of service than most Romania in Osae.Exactly. She was delightful and on top of it all she wasn't pushy at any point. She looks great, too.
Danny227, Adele service, depending on her mood, LOL. Though I am more connected with other girls, she is still one of my favorite girl there.I agree. When I saw Adele last time she told me she's retiring from this job and she will not be back. It's funny that she came back.
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