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Do any of the regulars know what has happened with Mandy? She is German, about 26, blonde and slim, about 1. 75m, always with an angelic smile
And you could never wish for a better time with any bird, total GFE plus!
Her handy # is no longer working either and as I live about 250 km from the PHG its a bit too far to "pop in " randomly without any known providers working on the day.
Saying that, the PGH is always a good bet, so if she is a goner, its time to go hunting again. Life is tough! Have fun out there!
Hollandmale
04-17-07, 05:24
Do any of the regulars know what has happened with Mandy? She is German, about 26, blonde and slim, about 1.75m, always with an angelic smile...... quite some time ago, due to a new relationship.
It remains to be seen how long this one will last,
but Mandy wasn't at PHG for at least half a year.
hm,
How come you know everything about FKK world? Your a mine of information!
C1
..... quite some time ago, due to a new relationship.
It remains to be seen how long this one will last, but Mandy wasn't at PHG for at least half a year.Many thanks for your reply,my worst fears are realised! Time for a road trip.
Cheers
Kiwi 69
When I've been in PHG for the 1st time, about NOV.05, I remember there was a little girl (about 1.50m), fake-blonde short haired, with a light strabism and dark eyes. I don't know why she was always booked, and saw her just a 2-3 times passing quickly, for disappear again?
So anyone know her? Why she was so requested?
CU,
Putantour
Hollandmale
04-20-07, 06:41
When I've been in PHG for the 1st time, about NOV.05, I remember there was a little girl (about 1.50m), fake-blonde short haired, with a light strabism and dark eyes. I don't know why she was always booked, and saw her just a 2-3 times passing quickly, for disappear again?
So anyone know her? Why she was so requested?..... 20 y/o Slovakian Jolanna; her excellent service is the reason for being booked often.
I met her last Saturday, when she joined me at poolside for a chat, massage and some DFK. Than we cuddled showering together, had an excellent 1,5-hour session with DFK, DATY, intercourse, BBBJ and CIM, wrapping up showering together once again. Afterwards Jolanna kept paying attention once and a while, passing by. Alltogether a very enjoyable little girl, 1.45 without shoes to be exact (!).
By the way, she changed her hair to redbrown, got a suntan and lost a few pounds.
She looks pretty cute now; certainly much better than a couple of months ago.
..... 20 y/o Slovakian Jolanna; her excellent service is the reason for being booked often.
I met her last Saturday, when she joined me at poolside for a chat, massage and some DFK. Than we cuddled showering together, had an excellent 1,5-hour session with DFK, DATY, intercourse, BBBJ and CIM, wrapping up showering together once again. Afterwards Jolanna kept paying attention once and a while, passing by. Alltogether a very enjoyable little girl, 1.45 without shoes to be exact (!).
By the way, she changed her hair to redbrown, got a suntan and lost a few pounds.
She looks pretty cute now; certainly much better than a couple of months ago.Yeah, thank you! I was suspecting that she must have a real good attitude, that is really more better than have a session with the last wonderful shiny model of refrigerator.
Just found out from the Dutch board that PHG, GT and LivingRoom got raided 2 days ago...all have re-opened but reports are that a firetruck blocked GT's street. Reports are that lots of girls have headed to YY.
Just found out from the Dutch board that PHG, GT and LivingRoom got raided 2 days ago...all have re-opened but reports are that a firetruck blocked GT's street. Reports are that lots of girls have headed to YY.
Wow, that is interesting. I would head up to Yin Yang if that is the case. Funny, I was thinking the other day of heading to that club. Maybe there was a reason that idea hit me out of the blue.
Apparently the raid at PHG was for a different reason than the one at GT. At PHG, the downstairs rooms were shut apparently because of fire code violations whereas at GT, the police made a splash to make sure the girls' papers were in order.
Hollandmale
04-28-07, 05:37
Reports are that lots of girls have headed to YY.I was in YY on Thursday, 55 girls attending, many familiar faces from PHG and GT.
I posted a report: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=747&page=1&pp=15
This was posted yesterday by Big30 from the RF.
Heute nachmittag gab es kaum Wartezeiten, am Abend vielleicht 15-20m !
Sonst eine Wiederholung von Freitag das heisst,
"BBQ/Essen war wie immer sehr gut , Schwimmingpool dazu , Beach-Party Stimmung und viele sehr schöne Damen , auch sehr viele Neuzugänge .
Heute mehr Frauen als am gewöhnlichen Sontagen. Trotzdem, das sich einige Gedanken machen ist klar.
Bauarbeiten wahrscheinlich etwa 2 Wochen.
Gruss,
Big30
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Fazit: There was no wait time in the PM, in the evening something like 15 to 20 minutes. It was a repeat of Friday: good food/barbecue, swimming pool, a beach party athmosphere, lots of chicks (many of whom were new). More women than normally are there on a Sunday. Construction will last about two weeks.
Holland Male:
I'm awed by your wealth of knowledge on the FKK clubs on the Dutch/German border? Whcih one do you think is the best? Goldentime, Planet Happy Garden or Yin Ynag? If you can't say which one is definitely best, how about a comparison of the three?
Thank you for your reply.
Canyon
This was posted yesterday by Big30 from the RF.
Fazit: There was no wait time in the PM, in the evening something like 15 to 20 minutes. It was a repeat of Friday: good food/barbecue, swimming pool, a beach party athmosphere, lots of chicks (many of whom were new). More women than normally are there on a Sunday. Construction will last about two weeks.
Thanks Jackyo. Good news indeed and very timely as I plan to be there next week.
Thanks Jackyo. Good news indeed and very timely as I plan to be there next week.
From the looks of it (and based on reports on the RF), things should be heading back to normal again.
Thanks Jackyo. Good news indeed and very timely as I plan to be there next week.There is still a problem with the rooms and that will stay for a very long time (I'm afraid of that) All the rooms downstairs remain closed.
The amount of girls is still rather high. Waitingtimes for rooms aren't that long. Food is still excellent. But you can see that there was a change in management.
Highlights : 3L or Lavinia, Louisa and Loredana (R)
Ciara, Ina, Miky, Monique all Rumanian
Katharina, Milana, Sylvia, Chris (H)
Martina, Alice, Sandra , Carmen (P)
Anja , Nadja, Lisa (Germany)
former Russia : Laura, Anita, Constanzia, Sascha
Patrizia (Nigeria)
Greetings Willem
From the looks of it (and based on reports on the RF), things should be heading back to normal again.
I am having trouble following. Is the point that YY had a lot of girls after the raid but the girls are returning to PHG and presumably GT also?
Hollandmale
05-15-07, 10:32
I am having trouble following. Is the point that YY had a lot of girls after the raid but the girls are returning to PHG and presumably GT also?Based on my latest findings yesterday in YY, yes, this seems to be the case.
The last 3 days there were 35 girls in YY, down from 50 in the last 2 weeks.
I am having trouble following. Is the point that YY had a lot of girls after the raid but the girls are returning to PHG and presumably GT also?
... current RF reports indicate that waiting times are not as bad as they were just after the Razzia.
... current RF reports indicate that waiting times are not as bad as they were just after the Razzia.That is indeed correct! Note that as already mentioned before there was no razzia in PHG, the front gate was removed because of fire code regulations and the cellar rooms cannot be used because of license related problems.
This will probably take more than the mentioned 2 weeks before it will be solved.
In general in PHG you will still find the typical PHG atmosphere which is little more relaxed than in Gt, the other club no more than 15 miles from PHG.
So far I could observe let us say no noticebla change in the PHG girls line-up.
Still a lot of girls to discover there which are not only optically apealling but also show good service in the room.
Food/Dinner as always can be considered as a Unique Selling Factor for PHG, most certainly when you compare it with Gt.
In general the atmosphere in PHG is a little more relaxed when compared to Gt (PHG has also no Kino with open sex)
It is not easy to answer which club is best: PHG, LR, GT, Freude, etc. in Germany NRW or YY Holland.
It is a personal preference I guess, also determined by the typical "guests" you will meet in a club or some club related yet sometimes disturbing "events", esspecially for the last 2 reasons I do not prefer YY.
Waiting times are longer at Fridays and Saturdays esspecially after diner and also when the weather is fine.
Fine weather always attracts more guests and then clearly waiting times will be more of a problem.
What girls you prefer is also difficult to answer, but clearly the list of Willem2 seems reasonable.
I would actually ad three names to the list. Ambra, Angie en Maya it just happens that they are all from Rumania.
Regards,
Big30
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
She most certainly was from Hungary. What a nice girl. She talked before the session, wasn't in a hurry to get to the room, and performed like a champ. I am hoping she was one of many good ones at PHG.Kitty has returned to Hungary, so far she has no plans to re-enter PHG or any other club.
Regards,
Big30
There was no Razzia here.
They had a building inspection.
That is indeed correct! Note that as already mentioned before there was no razzia in PHG, the front gate was removed because of fire code regulations and the cellar rooms cannot be used because of license related problems.
This will probably take more than the mentioned 2 weeks before it will be solved.
The cellar rooms are the rooms of preference imo. From memory that leaves only the outdoor rooms which are not very nice. That is not good as I was planning to be there next week.
The cellar rooms are the rooms of preference imo. From memory that leaves only the outdoor rooms which are not very nice. That is not good as I was planning to be there next week.I agree that some of the cellar rooms are most preferred in PHG. And as stated before and explained why, they cannot be used now and for a yet undefined period of time.
Please do no not forget that inside PHG you also have the rooms on the first floor, the cabins outside are OK as long as the outside temperature is acceptable (70-75 Degrees Fahrenheit). Predicted temperatures for next week actually are in the high sixties.
What I did not mention in my previous report is that the combination of nice temperatures and the outside swimming pool in PHG generally results in a what I would call "beach party atmosphere".
When compared with Gt is must be admitted that the Garden of Gt is much bigger, Gt has an inside whirlpool and also at Gt you will find more "party atmosphere" inside (and not only Kino but also outdoor sex!).
Although recently YY saw a considerable increase in the number of girls present, this has changed, most girls that hopped from Gt/PHG to YY have now returned.
When visiting PHG be prepared to see Fashion-TV on the LCD Flat Screens and to hear classical music on the restroom on the first floor.
Regards,
Big30
The cellar rooms are the rooms of preference imo. From memory that leaves only the outdoor rooms which are not very nice. That is not good as I was planning to be there next week.
There are also some rooms right above the Nachtcafe lounge. I also prefer the cellar rooms because they have mirrors and the number of positions you can do the girl in is only limited by your imagination. Can't say the same about the outdoor cabins.
There are also some rooms right above the Nachtcafe lounge. I also prefer the cellar rooms because they have mirrors and the number of positions you can do the girl in is only limited by your imagination. Can't say the same about the outdoor cabins.Room15 close to the showers has got lot of mirrors and also airco.
I will try to put a photo on this board from this room and Natasa :)
And than I have to add some girls on this forum : Dominica from Poland. 1.79m / blond long hair / slim / A/B-cup / 21-23years old.
Tatjana from Russia. 1.75m / red hair / B-cup / 28-30years old.
There are also some rooms right above the Nachtcafe lounge. I also prefer the cellar rooms because they have mirrors and the number of positions you can do the girl in is only limited by your imagination.
I also love the mirrors. If I find the right girls there I will survive though but I'm honestly disappointed. Any idea when the basement rooms become available again?
Any idea when the basement rooms become available again?
I really don't know but I will ask the staff when I go there next week.
I really don't know but I will ask the staff when I go there next week.I have asked Friday and again the answer that next week those rooms will be open again. I have my doubts. But they have been changing some fire-exits.
Last friday there were about 55 girls and not so many icebears. Hardly any waiting times for keyes. The massageroom is now also a normal room. They created extra rooms close to the swimmingpool.
List of girls : A(i)sha (Polen), Alini (Bra), Adella (Rumania)Alison/Alicia (Polen), Angelina (Rumania), Anna (Bulgaria), Beate (Polen), Carmen (Polen), Celina (Germany), Christina (Hungary), Constanzia (Russia), Cora (Polen), Cynthia (Hungary), Dasha (Russia), Deborah (Bra), Desiree ( Rumania), Dominica (Polen), Emma (Hungary), Emmy (Thailand), Gabi (Germany), Isa (Polen), Jaqueline (Tsch), Jeanette (Turkey, Jolanna (Slowakey), Katharina (Hungary), Kiara (Rumania), Kim (Russia), Laura (Lettland), Lavinia (Rumania), Lisa (Germany), Louisa (Rumania), Luana (Brazil), Milana (Hungary), Melanie (Russia), Melissa (Russia), Miky (Rumia), Milis (Kazachstan), Nadja (Germany), Naomi (Ghana), Nati (Ukraine), Noëlle (Germany), Patrizia (Nigeria), Sabrina (Belarus), Samantha (Tsch), Sammy (Germany), Simona ( Rumania), Soraya(Germany), Stella (Polen), Susi (Croatië), Tatjana (Russia), Viola (Polen), Yasmin (Iran)..............
Thanks Willem2! I hereby nominate you to be the editor of the PHG Daily Times, LOL!
Cheers,
WW
ILast friday there were about 55 girls and not so many icebears.
Hoi Willem 2,
Amazing, giving the complete line-up of a club with more than 50 girls!
Wat's next? Giving the names of all the ijsberen? ;)
Willem, there's a German girl with black hair, just below the shoulders, who is quite attractive. She has a beautiful model-type face and a delicious round ass. Does that ring a bell? If I could identify her I would ask if she's going to be working when I arrive this week. If she is as nice in the room as she is to look at I would be in for a treat.
Thanks Willem2! I hereby nominate you to be the editor of the PHG Daily Times, LOL!
Cheers,
WWThat's not possible because I'm only once every two/three weeks present. But there is a network ;)
Hoi Willem 2,
Amazing, giving the complete line-up of a club with more than 50 girls!
Wat's next? Giving the names of all the ijsberen?
Yep remeber me that I have to put it also on youppie.net. I only need some help to put the ladies passport in french.
Line-up of the ijsberen : Willi69, Babbel, JackD, Pipokoeien, JohnnyBravo, Hara1D, Rex......;)
Willem, there's a German girl with black hair, just below the shoulders, who is quite attractive. She has a beautiful model-type face and a delicious round ass. Does that ring a bell? If I could identify her I would ask if she's going to be working when I arrive this week. If she is as nice in the room as she is to look at I would be in for a treat.
Shit I missed one. I think she was also present last friday. I think her name is Nora. Nora is sitting among a group of german girls (Celina...) which are given lousy service . But this girl is an exception according to some internal reports.
Hessen Bub
05-21-07, 15:34
Is Sascha/Jill from Oase/Atlantis still working at PHG? Heard rumours that she is.
Hessen Bub
Is Sascha/Jill from Oase/Atlantis still working at PHG? Heard rumours that she is.
Hessen BubNo she isn't anymore. She has been in LivingRoom for a week and she is seen in Freude/Paradiso. But I don't know where she is at the moment.
Is Sascha/Jill from Oase/Atlantis still working at PHG? Heard rumours that she is.
Hessen BubEnde 2006 war Sie wieder in PHG bis ich glaube Februar 2006, in 2006 auch in Gt gespottet. Jetzt soll sie in Freude arbeiten.
Info: IJsberenforum.nl und eigene Observation.
Any idea when the basement rooms become available again?
I really don't know but I will ask the staff when I go there next week.You can always ask "the staff" although I doubt whether they will tell you all details. The answer will be, we are working hard on it and expect that the problem will be solved in 1-2 weeks, all girls and thekefrauen will give you that answer.
The only guy that can give you the real answer is the owner, I do not think he will be available for an answer.
As mentioned already PHG is working hard to solve the problems, some actions as described by Willem2 have already been taken.
They have a plan what to do and are working on that, the problem is that they need approval and licenses form the German authorities. If they do not have approval, they will face the same problems as they have now.
Meanwhile they are doing everything to have business as much as possible as usual. In my observation they still manage the problem with the reduced number off room well.
The number of girls present is still impressive (including most of the top-acts).
The moment more guests will be there (higher temperatures -> more guests -> non-acceptable waiting times), one can imagine that both girls and guests will start complaining about the waiting times, by that time I hope the problem will have been solved.
Regards,
Big30
Shit I missed one.
Can you teach me this trick? Do you keep cheat sheets and write them down? Do you manage the attendance list?
And still missed one. LOL
This took a lot of field research for which the research team deserves our thanks.
It takes work and dedication (plus time and money) to pull something like this together.
Now if only the girls would wear name tags, we can figure out who is who.
Is Sascha/Jill from Oase/Atlantis still working at PHG? Heard rumours that she is.
Hessen Bub
I saw her a few times at GT last fall, but have not seen her at any of the Golden Triangle clubs this year.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Can you teach me this trick? Do you keep cheat sheets and write them down? Do you manage the attendance list?
And still missed one. LOLYes, I can teach you the trick.
So I will start to answer the second question :). I don't write anything down in a club on a sheet. In the PHG I'm always speaking with members of any forum and ask about new girls or if they know the name of a girl I don't remember anymore. Furthermore I ask or speak with "Thekenfrauen"(barladies). After a whole day my head is full with a film of girls which I have seen that day. And know you play down your own movie and write down al the names you have seen ;).
And ofcourse you always miss one (and more) but than you have the help of members (Willi69, Big30, Horny_one).
@ Jackyo
It is taken some time but it is saving you money ;)
I saw a young model type German girl with black hair just below the shoulders with a very nice ass. Her name was Nina. It might be her.
Willem, there's a German girl with black hair, just below the shoulders, who is quite attractive. She has a beautiful model-type face and a delicious round ass. Does that ring a bell? If I could identify her I would ask if she's going to be working when I arrive this week. If she is as nice in the room as she is to look at I would be in for a treat.
I saw a young model type German girl with black hair just below the shoulders with a very nice ass. Her name was Nina. It might be her.Nina could also be the girl you are looking for. The problem with Nina is that you can't be sure that she will be there.
Thursday turned out to be the last sunny and warm day of the week and the club scene when I arrived at 2pm did not disappoint. About 50 girls and not nearly as many white robes. All the green lounge chairs around the pool were fully occupied while the Nachtcafe lounge was nearly empty. Later in the day, there was a grill set up outside to serve grilled meats with salad for dinner. This lasted past 9pm. PHG definitely trumps other clubs when it comes to food and setup like these.
Lisa, the busty German blonde with the model-quality body, came by to say hello. We chatted some about the closure of the downstairs rooms and she mentioned that while she didn't know when they would re-open, wait times are no longer an issue with more rooms being created by the pool and also above the Nachtcafe lounge.
My first session of the day was with Celina who's a fresh-faced 21 yo German blonde from Koln. Celina is about 5'6", 75B, really cute with some freckles on her face, tanned and smooth skin, with an ass to die for. The highlights of her service are the bbbj with cim and the doggy-style pounding giving you a full view of her awesome ass. We were given an outside cabin that felt like an oven inside so I wasn't in the mood for prolonged DATY. PHG management should be equipping these cabins with air-conditioning on days like these. GT ownership has already done that.
Later that evening I hooked up with Desiree, a petite Romanian with one of the best bodies in the entire club. Desiree is a 25yo with a super tight tanned body, about 5'5", long blonde hair, makeup on face, and often wearing either white or black lingerie. She doesn't speak German but her English is quite good. We had to wait around 5 min for the room later that evening. This time I got a big inside room just past the locker room. Service wise, I found Desiree's performance somewhat lacking. The bbbj was fine and there was some LFK. However, no DATY was allowed.
On this night, I also met a German punter who's a long time regular of this club and seems to know the PHG ownership well. According to him, the current owner will open a sister club similar to PHG and not too far from Oedt with the opening date slated for the fall of this year. As for the recent raid that led to the closure of the downstairs rooms, he stated that came about because of a telephone call from the previous owner to the Fire department. This German punter also introduced me to Beata, a Polish girl with shoulder-length dark blonde hair with a warm personality. Beata is in her mid-30s, 5'4", 75B, and provides great service including DFK, bbbj, DATY, digits. Around 23h, the wait for a key was around 10min. During this time, Beata was sitting on my lap and we were doing some LFK so it wasn't quite like a dentist office wait.
This being a Friday, there were more white robes than yesterday but the number of girls was as impressive as the day before, 50-55 girls. However, there was no outside grilling like yesterday because of the weather outlook. It was cloudy and often times ominous but the big rainstorm didn't arrive until around midnight.
My first session was with Lorredana (sp?), a 20yo Romanian with arguably the greatest hairdo in the club, e.g. long, thick, naturally curly, dark blonde hair. As with most Romanian girls, Lorredana speaks good English. She's about 5'5", 105lbs, A/B cup, with a super tight body and a perfect ass. Service-wise, I knew i was in for a treat in the first five minutes so anticipating a second SOG, I told her I was interested in extending the session to 1h. On the menu was DATY, rimming, DFK, and a superior bbbj. Lorredana is very vocal and enjoys taking a good pounding from behind. Anal and CIM were not available.
Shortly after dinner, I hooked up with Tatjana, a tall, red-headed Russian with big round green eyes and a model-quality body. The wait time for a room at this time was about 5 min. Tatjana is a polyglot and can speak English, French, German and Russian. Tatjana is 5'9", 34B, 120lbs and is somewhat new to PHG. That may explain why her service was average: LFK, DATY, average bbbj that uses too much hands, MPOS, no digits. Nothing exceptional except for her looks.
The final SOG for the night was with Simona, another Romanian. Simona is 21yo, 5'5" with shoulder length blonde hair, B-cup, and a great bubble butt. The wait time for a room key close to midnight was around 10min. I had a great session with her. This included all the acronyms associated with GFE service. Highlights of my session with her included DATY with her sitting on my face and her backing into me during doggy-style while I was holding on to that fabulous bubbly ass.
Vitoriabitter
05-31-07, 23:34
Hi,
I have sampled Samya & GT, but I still need definitive advice on which are the best clubs near Aachen.
I am considering Babylon, Ying Yang, Park Sauna...etc...can anyone give terrific advice on where & when to be.
Ill be there Fri/Sat/Sunday.
I liked GT, but I heard there are better places...and there are so many reports now...im totally confused.
Please help :)
For what it is worth - I received a glowing report on Ying Yang from an American traveller who was visiting the same club as I earlier this week.
His words, "I was knocked out by the overall quality of the line-up and found myself in great difficulty making purchases". He then proceeded to go into raptures over a Lady named "Sami or Samy". GFE to the extreme and full on sex. Again, this is a third hand opinion but very recent.
My own report on the Living Room to follow in the thread.
Hi,
I have sampled Samya & GT, but I still need definitive advice on which are the best clubs near Aachen.
I am considering Babylon, Ying Yang, Park Sauna...etc...can anyone give terrific advice on where & when to be.
Ill be there Fri/Sat/Sunday.
I liked GT, but I heard there are better places...and there are so many reports now...im totally confused.
Please help :)
Hey Vb,
PHG is a little bit out the way from Aachen but I would consider it a better club than GT. There are more Hungarian babes at PHG and the Romanian girls at PHG are also better looking than the ones at GT. Also, plenty of German girls at PHG.
Cheers,
WW
Lisa, the busty German blonde with the model-quality body, came by to say hello. Nice blowjob, no kissing.
My first session of the day was with Celina who's a fresh-faced 21 yo German blonde from Koln. Celina is about 5'6", 75B, really cute with some freckles on her face, tanned and smooth skin, with an ass to die for. Okay. She really looks nice and just look at here.
Desiree, a petite Romanian with one of the best bodies in the entire club. Desiree is a 25yo with a super tight tanned body, about 5'5", long blonde hair, makeup on face, and often wearing either white or black lingerie.She is almost the whole time together with.
Simona, another Romanian. Simona is 21yo, 5'5" with shoulder length blonde hair, B-cup, and a great bubble butt. And it is amazing for me that you had a really good time with infact both of them. They both look really beautiful and they are trying to be similar, kind of twin. But it is good to hear that you had a great time with them.
On this night, I also met a German punter who's a long time regular of this club and seems to know the PHG ownership well. According to him, the current owner will open a sister club similar to PHG and not too far from Oedt with the opening date slated for the fall of this year.Different owners. We will see.
.....dark blonde hair with a warm personality. Beata is in her mid-30s, 5'4", 75B, and provides great service including DFK, bbbj, DATY, digits.Beata isn't so beautiful as all the other girls you had but I think you had great sex with her. She is really nice.
My first session was with Lorredana (sp?), a 20yo Romanian with arguably the greatest hairdo in the club, e.g. long, thick, naturally curly, dark blonde hair. As with most Romanian girls, Lorredana speaks good English. She's about 5'5", 105lbs, A/B cup, with a super tight body and a perfect ass. ..... Anal and CIM were not available. Those services (Anal and CIM) are possible if she needs the money.
Shortly after dinner, I hooked up with Tatjana, a tall, red-headed Russian with big round green eyes and a model-quality body. The wait time for a room at this time was about 5 min. Tatjana is a polyglot and can speak English, French, German and Russian. Tatjana is 5'9", 34B, 120lbs and is somewhat new to PHG. That may explain why her service was average: LFK, DATY, average bbbj that uses too much hands, MPOS, no digits. Nothing exceptional except for her looks.
For three weeks I also had a session with her. It was quite good. I really liked her blowjob. You also really can talk with her but only during the session. She will not give any service after you paid and had your session.
Hey Vb,
PHG is a little bit out the way from Aachen but I would consider it a better club than GT. There are more Hungarian babes at PHG and the Romanian girls at PHG are also better looking than the ones at GT. Also, plenty of German girls at PHG.
Cheers,
WWAnd to also answer Vitoriabitter. It is almost the same as GT. Food is better in PHG, but in both clubs you can find really beautiful girls. For 3 weeks ago the line-up in PHG was a better but according to Tiga last weekend GT was better. So try it out.
( some other nice girls : Kiara (rum), Lavinia (rum), Milana (H), .......)
Nice blowjob, no kissing
Re: Lisa, also no DATY. The first time I met her three months ago, her first words were "no kissing, no lick pussy, OK?" Still that body and the bbbj still make a good tradeoff.
And it is amazing for me that you had a really good time with infact both of them. They both look really beautiful and they are trying to be similar, kind of twin. But it is good to hear that you had a great time with them.
If you re-read my post concerning Desiree, I wouldn't characterize the session with her as being "great". It was average at best, no DATY was allowed. Desiree is more beautiful than Simona but the latter's service was much better.
You also really can talk with her but only during the session. She will not give any service after you paid and had your session.
Regarding Tatjana, I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean in those two sentences.
Regarding Tatjana, I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean in those two sentences.Hmm it was late.
But you can have a great session with Tatjana. The only thing is that before and after a session with her, a normal conversation is hardly possible. If you start to talk with her she expects that you go almost immediately with her to a room.
Re: Lisa, also no DATY. The first time I met her three months ago, her first words were "no kissing, no lick pussy, OK?" Still that body and the bbbj still make a good tradeoff.
oh, yeah, that body is nice
(it is not a private picture, but taken from a public site of an establishment she used to work at so no need to cry out)
Hmm it was late.
But you can have a great session with Tatjana. The only thing is that before and after a session with her, a normal conversation is hardly possible. If you start to talk with her she expects that you go almost immediately with her to a room.
OK, thanks for clarifying. Good to know. I talked to her for 5-10 minutes in the Nachtcafe lounge, we went to a room to do the deed and after the transaction was over, every time I passed by her, we just exchanged some smiles. That's good enough for me.
What is the name of this tall (1,80m to 1,85m) and tanned girl with big tits? She's about 22yo, has shoulder-length, dark-blond hair and blue eyes. She worked last Thursday.
What is the name of this tall (1,80m to 1,85m) and tanned girl with big tits? She's about 22yo, has shoulder-length, dark-blond hair and blue eyes. She worked last Thursday.I think it is Anja, a german girl with rather good service. (CIM, Anal etc)
I will ask it also on the dutch board if they are coming with more names ;)
What is the name of this tall (1,80m to 1,85m) and tanned girl with big tits? She's about 22yo, has shoulder-length, dark-blond hair and blue eyes. She worked last Thursday.I think this is Justina. Very tall, big tits, and indeed dark-blond shoulder length hair, she is actually 19 years old. She is from the Tsjech Republic.
Regards,
Big30
To Big30,
Yes, i think that's her name. She also has a very pretty face. Will have to put her high on the to-do list for next time.
To Willem2,
Doesn't Anja often hang out with Lisa? If that's her, she has a great body and tiny tits and I don't think she's as tall as Justina.
Thanks to both of you,
WW
To Big30,
Yes, I think that's her name. She also has a very pretty face. Will have to put her high on the to-do list for next time.
I have asked Big30 and I think also that it's Justina. Anja wasn't there on that day. Willi69 was also coming with the name Yula (Polen).
To Willem2,
Doesn't Anja often hang out with Lisa? If that's her, she has a great body and tiny tits and I don't think she's as tall as Justina.
Thanks to both of you,
WWHmm I think that is Noëlle. She also likes champagne.
Anja is about 1.75-1.78m, blond, not that slim anymore and D-cup (sillicons). She isn't working that much anymore. But she gives good professional service.
I would like some advice about the daytime shift.
I will spend 1½ days in the neigbourhood sometime this summer. Plan is to visit both PHG and Yin Yang for the first time. Is one place better than the other regarding the early shift, assuming I must leave in the afternoon? Differences between weekdays and weekends?
Thanks
I would like some advice about the daytime shift.
I will spend 1½ days in the neigbourhood sometime this summer. Plan is to visit both PHG and Yin Yang for the first time. Is one place better than the other regarding the early shift, assuming I must leave in the afternoon? Differences between weekdays and weekends?
ThanksThere used to be much more girls in PHG than in YY. And in fact that is still the case. But in both clubs you can have fun. And how many girls do you really need ;)
Wednesday, thursday and friday are the days with the most girls. Saturday and tuesday it all depends. Think about 45-65 girls in PHG / YY about 30-45 girls.
Greetings Willem
PS a lot will also depend if PHG can re-open their rooms downstairs ;)
I find the early shift is many of the same girls that are there into the night. I have liked the early shift at PHG. If you want a second club to consider, Goldentime is probably better than Yin Yang. But if I were flying back tomorrow my first stop would be PHG. It's smaller than Goldentime but it's very nice.
http://www.goldentime.de/engl/
I would like some advice about the daytime shift.
I will spend 1½ days in the neigbourhood sometime this summer. Plan is to visit both PHG and Yin Yang for the first time. Is one place better than the other regarding the early shift, assuming I must leave in the afternoon? Differences between weekdays and weekends?
Thanks
Well I had to make a return trip since it had been 4 months since my vist to Happy Pussy Garden in March with my Dad.
Session 1: Romanian, Tall, Slender, Jet Black curly hair, blue eyes, C cup tits, nice tan. Awesome session, Mish, Doggie, Cowgirl. Had a pretty long first session since I had 4 girls the night before at FKK Labyrinth which has gone downhill somewhat since my last visit. I will post another report on this.
Looks: 8
Service: 8
Repeat Factor: Yes
Session 2: Tatiana, Russian, Fiery red hair, blue eyes, C cup silicone tits.
This is one of those girls who looks good in a swimsuit, but once the clothes come off and you squeeze the silicone tits is not what you expected. Mish, Cowgirl
Looks: 7
Service: 6
Repeat Factor: No
Session 3: Dasha, Lithuanian, 5'6", Light brown eyes, silky smooth skin. I had done a trip report back in March on her. She is definitely repeat material. She is one of those special girls maybe 1 in 80 who has an extra half inch of Labia which shimmeys across the top of your cock when you fuck her Doggie Style. A true turn on. She can also squeeze her clam when you screw Mish which is also very nice. Had the best fuck session of the day with her. A great fuck. Mish, Cowgirl, Doggie
Looks: 8
Service: 9
Repeat factor: Yes
Session 4: Isabella? Romanian, Blonde haired, blue eyed, Awesome natural C cup tits, nice ass A really good session. Mish, Doggie She looks great from behind when screwing doggie style.
Looks: 9
Service: 9
Repeat factor: Yes
(Missed out on a session with Lavinia, Romanian C cup tits, model slim body. Would like to go back and give her a try.)
Session 5: Maria Romanian, Dark tan, Black hair, Brown eyes, B+ tits. I was going to call it a night but I made my final round and Maria talked me into a session. Again this is a girl who looks good in a swimsuit but when she took off her top, her tits were droopy, Loppy ones, a true turnoff. Also, because of all my previous sessions, she was going to have to do something spectacular to get me hard and have a good session. Had a quick, Mish and Doggie then went limp. She just didn't do it for me and I ended the session. Wish I would have passed on this one.
All in all a good day. 3 good sessions out of 5. Missed the dinner buffet at 7PM which is one of the best around.
Session 1: Romanian, Tall, Slender, Jet Black curly hair, blue eyes, C cup tits, nice tan. Awesome session, Mish, Doggie, Cowgirl.
Session 4: Isabella? Romanian, Blonde haired, blue eyed, Awesome natural C cup tits, nice ass A really good session. Mish, Doggie She looks great from behind when screwing doggie style.Name of girl of sesions 1 very likely is Kiara (although she has B-cup).
Name of girl of session 4 could be Isabella, but she is from Polen. I know no girl form Romania in PHG that matches the profile you give, could be Andella or Lia although for the 2 of them have a C-cup and that does not give a match.
Dasha indeed gives a top-service, Ft is possible with her but that will not happen during a first visit.
Maria is a nice girl to talk and have fun with, in the room her service is let us say "mangelhaft" (not that good!)
I was told actually that the room problems will be solved within less than 2 weeks. Let us say seeing is believing.
Lavinia is now back in PHG (just as Shakira/Loredana actually), if you miss them in Happy great change that you can meet them in FKK-Haus close to Stuttgart!
Recently some very interesting girls from Polen showed up in Happy. Food in Happy certainly when compared with Gt is just great.
Line-up in PHG now is better than Gt. This is true only the last few weeks. Before I must admit Gt was better.
If you like girls from Romania (I do!) please be also aware of the good service of Angie and Maya!
Maybe if I can find some time, I will write more about what is happening now in PHG and some of the clubs close to PHG!
Regards,
Big30
Alkmar Punter
07-22-07, 10:39
Session 3: Dasha, Lithuanian, 5'6", Light brown eyes, silky smooth skin. I had done a trip report back in March on her. She is definitely repeat material. She is one of those special girls maybe 1 in 80 who has an extra half inch of Labia which shimmeys across the top of your cock when you fuck her Doggie Style. A true turn on. She can also squeeze her clam when you screw Mish which is also very nice. Had the best fuck session of the day with her. A great fuck. Mish, Cowgirl, Doggie
I can only confirm this , amazing how Dasha (she's mixed Russian) can squeeze , a banana in two halves definitely, once you're well into a nice fuck in mish she raises her butt slightly and with a naughthy twinckle in her eyes she 'squeezes her clam' when you have to stop very soon, in doggie she also applied it where I could forget about a third position on top .... also her blowjob is definitely for repeat.
Actually I noticed more girls squeezing like hell, they followed some training course or what ?
Alini , from Bahia de Salvador , little girl 20 years nice petit body often white bikini, maybe not the best looker but very effective session, squeeze factor almost like Dasha. Blowjob started too careful but after some fatherly encouragement I eventually had to stop her from climbing into my cock.
Said she would return to Brazil soon.
Jaqueline , from Pilzen Cz, friendly horny looker with a nice ass, mixed brown hair, she's not too tall, black lingerie, very good blowjob and also an amazing squeezing factor. Hope she'll soon return from Cz.
Session 4: Isabella? Romanian, Blonde haired, blue eyed, Awesome natural C cup tits, nice ass A really good session. Mish, Doggie She looks great from behind when screwing doggie style.
Looks: 9
Service: 9
Repeat factor: Yes
Sounds like Simona. A great ass indeed, more like a bubble butt that's well proportioned with her 5'5" frame.
Name of girl of session 4 could be Isabella, but she is from Polen. I know no girl form Romania in PHG that matches the profile you give, could be Andella or Lia although for the 2 of them have a C-cup and that does not give a match.
I think that's Simona he's talking about. She is Romanian.
Dasha indeed gives a top-service, Ft is possible with her but that will not happen during a first visit.
What is Ft?
Lavinia is now back in PHG (just as Shakira/Loredana actually), if you miss them in Happy great change that you can meet them in FKK-Haus close to Stuttgart!
Interesting. I thought they had moved to the new club Nanu.
Maybe if I can find some time, I will write more about what is happening now in PHG and some of the clubs close to PHG!
Regards,
Big30
Would love to hear the latest on my favorite club, PHG.
-Cheers,
WW
Warsteiner
07-23-07, 21:33
What is Ft?
FT = Französisch Total i.e. CIM (Cum In Mouth)
Would love to hear the latest on my favorite club, PHG.
-Cheers,
WW
I would like to add that I also really like PGH. It could be a little boring in the winter I suppose as it's a smaller club but in warm months and nights they have the barbeque going out by the pool it's outstanding... heaven on earth.
Warsteiner
08-09-07, 20:22
Guys,
I had a quick visit to PHG on Sunday 29th July. I arrived at about 2pm to find quite a few (Dutch) cars in the car park. After entering and changing I was a littel disappointed with the line up. Some of the women were quite old and there was a fair amount of silicon on show, which is something I am not in to. I hung around for a couple of hours and at 4pm the better talent showed up.
The first session was with Dominique (Poland), 5'10 tall, short blond hair and a silm athletic body. She had been working in the club for 6 days and was going back to Poland for 1 or 2 weeks the next day before returning. Good DFK, the BBBJ was pretty average but she is into rimming and can come during DATY if you rim her.
Looks - 9
Session - 8
Repeatability - 8
The 2nd session was with Loredana/Shakira. I'd spotted her during a previous visit in Jan and knew from the German/Dutch board that she was one of the stars. She is 5'6 tall, long blond hair, very pert B cup breasts and a tight arse. She does great DFK, BBBJ and is really into being on top.
Looks - 9
Session - 9
Repeatability - 10
Two great sessions but I was a bit disappointed in the line up as during my visits in Dec and Jan the club was full of stunners. Maybe this is more of a Winter club and GT is the place to be in the Summer.
Today the cellar rooms in Happy are finally back in business!
That 's all I have to tell.
Regards,
Big30
(short reply on message #316 by Woof Woof
- The Girl form Romania indeed is Simona, just forgot her!
- Louisa and Shakira were only for 1 day (at te re-start party) in nanu34, you can find them both still in Happy but also sometimes in FKK-Haus close to Stuttgart.
- Last month in PHG I found less satisfying (waiting times, not enough girls, "Ferien" for some of the girls.
- Some PHG girls were last month working in other clubs as for example Gt.
- Let us see what will now happen in Happy now all the rooms can be used.
- No further news on Villa Vertigo ... .)
Arrived at DUS airport last Wednesday at noon and from where I took a train to Düsseldorf main station. From the main station I took a train to Kempen (departure every 30 minutes, duration 37 min) and from the station in Kempen I took a cab to PHG for exactly 10 €. The last train back to Düsseldorf from Kempen departures at 23.15.
I don’t really enjoy sauna clubs I much more prefer true FKK clubs with totally naked women. But so many people are telling positive things about GT and PHG so I feel I have to visit both clubs to experience it with my own eyes. I’ve previously made a report on my visit to GT. You can read it here 627952 (basically I didn’t feel too comfortable at GT).
I now wanted to try PHG and in my opinion this club is better than GT. Or perhaps I should say that my so far only visit to PHG was better than my so far only visit to GT. A single visit is probably not enough to judge a club.
What I liked better than GT is basically:
1. In PHG it was much easier to get attention from the girls. The girls seem to pay attention to every customer no matter if he is a regular or not. No desperate approaching either.
2. PHG was not nearly as crowded as GT, it’s a smaller club but large enough for me.
3. Not such extremely short food supply.
First girl was Lisa from Germany, tall blond model body. I asked her to go to a room but first she told me no kissing on mouth and no DATY. She is a very honest girl and tells right away her restrictions so I have no problem with this. I agreed and we went to a room. Great blowjob and sex so I decided to go for 1 hour with CIM. Total cost 100 €, excellent value. Very nice girl and I would repeat if I visit this club again.
Second girl was Anja from Germany. She is a tall blond girl from Germany, big enhanced breasts. Looks very good but not as good as Lisa though. Nice girl and good professional service.
I enjoyed this place and I would recommend it for any groups of friends visiting the area. I myself will probably stick to true FKK clubs. If not PHG or GT will introduce a Nudity Day (opposite of the FKK clubs Dessous Tag) that is…
Again I think PHG is a really great place, but I still prefer true FKK’s.
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Alkmar Punter
09-03-07, 19:02
Last Saturday night was in the Happy Garden , entered the club at 6 pm and the parkinglot was full to both sides.
There was the big party going on, although I doubted the weather would be fine, it cleared up down South East and it eventually proved to be very favourable.
PHG reopened it's groundlevel section with kamers and was at full capacity now , of course this partying night gave easy twice as many men as girls , a total complement of some some 220 I guess , still there were no waiting times all night long.
I re united with the happy IJsberenclub under Willem2 , about all the prominents were around.
In the fooddivision there were several tables with many delicious starters , the cocktail bar was open , there was a dj and rockhard soundmachines , tombola events , dancing girls and some strippers. And this all at 50 Euros.
The maindish was the roasted pig on the spit , around 10 pm , many drinks to offer incl RedBulls , Corona's etc. At 11 delicous 'toetjes' , sweet as the pussies I managed to lick in due time.
At least that was Kinga again , I did her more, very cute Polish brunette, not a hard sucker but nice kisser , sweet tasting to both sides and ending up on top what was top.
Later I found Constanzia , a Russian brunette from Kaliningrad , 5 months in PHG.
While we were cockstiffing she was announced as 'Miss PHG , Willem2 came to lead her to the stage personally. later on we re united , well , now I know who Miss PHG is and and again what a perfect blow is. She was great , a nice kisser and a very perfect experience.
It was a good saturdaynight when after 12 I left the premises , doing some nice hugs and kisses with Jacqueline and Kinga .....
(. Continues from 2nd day at Yin Yang )
3rd day, Saturday 1 September: Planet Happy Garden, Toenisvorst (Oedt)
I know that Saturday is a risky day to go to clubs. I don’t like when it gets too crowded, the girls are pressed by many mongers, service tends to be quick and dirty and you don’t have space to relax. Last time, six months ago, I preferred to avoid going to Palace on a Saturday, I went instead at a regular "therme" to relax and recharge batteries. Usually in these places there is also an FKK area, where no sex is allowed, but one can mix up also with a lot of naked normal girls, which can be fun, and who knows.
This time however I planned to use all available days for visiting as much clubs as possible, so this Saturday I am directed to PHG, one of the first clubs to be born, about 12 years ago. There will be a party, I am quite in doubt if this will turn out to be good or bad, but I am curious to see. I am expecting there will be a lot of bears, but may be also more girls than usual, perhaps coming from other clubs for the occasion.
Really I am not in great shape. I had a very bad night, I couldn’t sleep enough and awoke several times all sweat. Damn German beds! Probably the experience with Melissa at Yin Yang has signed me, probably I have accumulated too much stress and fatigue in last days, a too sudden change with respect to my too regular life, well. I went through an arrhythmic crisis. There is something wrong in the control unit of my heart and every several months, since nearly 15 years I have to deal with this thing. Usually they don’t appear under effort but just when least I expect them. I can control them with a pill and hitherto they were not really dangerous, but after one of these crises I feel really weakened. As a matter of fact now I am feeling like if a truck passed over me two times :( .
I entered the place together with a brisk guy from Netherlands I readily get acquainted with. I spent the first times at PHG with him and his friends, so I got to learn some interesting things. I must say he is an absolutely normal guy, perhaps not even 30 years old, slim, of average height and perhaps above average look. Why I am saying this? Not because I turned gay suddenly, but to make clear that there are no reasons why he also couldn’t have a normal life, with a regular girlfriend or wife, etc. Instead he told me he doesn’t want this, that he is doing this life, going to clubs regularly 1 or 2 times a week, since at least 11 years, and that he is happy like this! Like him a lot of guys from Netherlands or Germany have done this choice. He said: "I don’t spend money in stupid things and I save it for going with the girls I like". Ok, I can understand him, he is living here in this area where this FKK thing is born and he has the possibility of doing so. Perhaps I would have done the same at his place, or rather I envy him and his friends!
Yeah, it’s true that going with these club girls is not like having a regular relation with an affective involvement, but many man can live without this, and prefer to have sex with girls they couldn’t otherwise approach and also change often the menu :)
Knowing that there are so many guys that have been doing this for 10 years or more, since the very beginning of the phenomenon, and also that this is the case also for many women (e.g. Saskia at Palace) led me to an interesting consideration. In fact I am somewhat worried by the risk of contracting STD. As a rule, all oral sex practices are made without protection in these places, and we know that a lot of diseases, in principle, can be transmitted this way, even if the most dangerous practice remains penetration, which is always protected. Well, the fact that so many men and women can be involved in these practices for such a long time, without contracting diseases, means that this risk should be quite low. Certainly the fact that personal hygiene is taken into high consideration by regular customers, that showers and saunas etc. Are practiced without parsimony, should help a lot. But maybe also that some of them had a disease and came out of it. Anyway, how they say here: "no risk, no fun". I agree. This don’t exempt us to take as much care as possible to preserve our health and that of others!
At a certain point also the big guy of the day before at Yin Yang showed up and turned out to be one of his friend. So I had chances not to get bored talking sometimes with these guys, but as far as the girls were concerned I couldn’t see any really attractive one. Most girls were of the thin/slender type without curves that doesn’t excite me, one girl has curves but I don’t like her face, one is pretty but has an obscene belly of beer drinker that’s awful to me, and so on.
Well, if they were for free ok, but, as I said in another occasion, if I have to pay them I need something special. Perhaps I have to change this attitude, because, as we have seen, beauty and physical attractiveness is not a guarantee of good sex. Not at all! Most likely we can have the best sex experiences not with the prettiest. Many other factors counts.
In any case I was feeling unmotivated, also the atmosphere was friendly but not sexy at all! Wherever I turned my head I could see tens of bears, but just a few girls!
The lunch time came appropriately, there was a rich buffet with grilled pork and a lot of good stuff. Making the siesta I saw a pretty girl who was having a late lunch, eating by herself. I noticed her also before. Blonde, with a pretty face and killer blue eyes, almost zero tits, but a well shaped body with long legs. Perhaps the only one I could be interested in. That could have been the good occasion to approach her and at least get to know her, but I was still not feeling good, waited too much and at a certain point the girl stood up and left the place. In the meantime my friends from Holland were pretty active. They were feeling at home here :)
Being a party, several animation events took place during the day, but in my opinion this wasted even more the atmosphere, from a sexual arousal point of view. Moreover it’s true that girls here don’t take the initiative at all, a rule which is quite enough respected. Here you certainly have to make the first step, girls simply wait and most of them don’t even look at you. I find this somewhat frustrating. Many useless hours were passing by and I started thinking that today I would have left the place without taking any session! My blonde seemed not to busy also, but she was spending her time with some girlfriends and perhaps regular customers she evidently was acquainted with.
At the dinner buffet I encountered a guy of Chinese origin, but coming from the USA, who I remembered was also at GoldenTime. At the opposite of me he was like a baby in a shop of candies! Really excited of the place! He told me of having had already 4 sessions with 6 girls, and was not done yet! He confessed me of taking the yellow pill too. Perhaps he took double dose ;) When I told him that I didn’t really like the girls present, he looked at me like at a fool and thought of not having well understood. Well, you know, the world is beautiful because it’s varied.
At a certain point in the evening my blonde showed up alone again and I could have caught at least that occasion. I was just about to move to her when an old man, that my friends told me to be a "mad professor" of something, approached her, kissing her (on the face). She hugged him and started caressing him. After a while also her girlfriend came and the three of them disappeared in a room.
I was so disappointed that I went for a sauna! Nobody was there. After a few minutes two guys went in. They were quite dark and could come perhaps from Turkey, but apparently they spoke Russian! They were Russians indeed. They told me that they were disappointed too by the quality of the girls and that in Russia they have Clubs which are much better! Well perhaps, after Germany, Russia is going to be the new Eden for mongers, but for the moment I wouldn’t compare the two. Russia should be still too a wild place for a relaxing vacation, I think. I was at the end of my capability of resisting in the sauna, but to them the place should seem too mild, so they started to throw water on the coals. A burst of heat hit me and I was forced to get out.
After a refreshing shower I went outside, were another show was going on. I saw my blonde also, but still with her girlfriend and the professor, after the session the two girls remained to cuddle him for a long time.
At about 22:30 I could estimate 150 bears for no more than 30 girls.
I thought the place could be defined at the moment as "a big meeting point for Dutch and German guys, plus some available girls". I was really bored and in bad mood. So I left.
Anyway, not all what is bad comes to hurt: I took a day off to recharge batteries and to relief my fatigued body and my... reddened cock :)
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You may or may not remember I’m a bit sceptic towards Saunaclubs, in particular Golden Time. Not willing to give up the concept prematurely though, I spotted a likeminded soul regarding GT, so Flodhast and I coordinated to meet at PHG to investigate further. Basically I agree with Flodhast's points below.
There is food, and later on pizza, enough for everyone. When I first ordered beer in the bar I got a glass with 15 cl. WTF, to get drunk here would take a lot of patience... Fortunately I found the bar downstairs that had self service:)
I was very cautious to begin with, as I had had a traumatic incident the night before. I wanted to be 110% sure I choose a friendly girl to start the day with. As I lay in a sun bed, I watched a topless girl in front of me. A topless girl has a tendency to capture your attention in a saunaclub... I was totally mesmerised and didn't notice anything else about her. She left, and after I while I went up looking for her. When talking to her I had to look at her face (finally:o), not stare at her tits. I discovered that her face wasn't really as much to my taste as I had thought. She is also a tiny girl - the shortest in the club - although her breasts are large (proportionately speaking) and natural. She seemed friendly enough though. Yolana, Slovakia, might even be described as a bit crazy, as she has a handbag in the shape of an elk that she discussed with whether to take me on as a client. All in a light spirited way, of course. A good session but not spectacular. She was a bit passive for me.
Next up was German Kelly. She had an Andie MacDowell (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000510/) kinda face and hair, but with tighter, smoking hot body. When talking to her I thought her to be more professional than GFE, but I couldn't turn down a looker like this. We went for an outside cabin, with smelled of manure. The perils of fucking in the countryside I guess. Not something that couldn't be fixed with some air refresher. Again not a spectacular session, but nothing negative either.
Third girl was blonde Polish Dominika, possibly a friend of Kelly. Sorry to say that she delivered a TJ (Tooth Job), and it wasn't light either. It was good in between, but about every 10 sec I moaned and squirmed with pain. She probably thought it was out of lust - the way I interpret those movements performing DATY;)LOL. Fucking on the other hand was better. Our genitals had a good fit, so it was nice. I asked about extending to an hour, but she declined as she had been in a three hour session before me:(. So I finished and went for some night pizza instead.
I’m not sure how well I managed to pick the girls. On ISG or other forums there are barely any negative reviews on PHG-girls... Do the rip-offs exist, or doesn’t anyone dare to tell he got sub par service?
I think PHG is the better club compared to GT. Facilities are better at GT, I give you that, but the atmosphere was friendlier at PHG, and the girls' attitudes were way better. Not so many Dutch frat parties and (as a consequence?) easier to get attention from the girl of choice. It probably helped to be part of a (small) crowd this saunaclub visit, but I gather even a lonesome cowboy would rather enjoy a visit here than in GT.
Conclusion: Out of the larger clubs in Viersen-Krefeld area I think PHG is the best, and I will be pleased to re-visit whenever in the area.
like everhard, this week’s visit was also my first.
i arrived at 17.00 and left at 23.00. it’s a medium-sized club with not the most modern facilities, but quite comfortable, when you get used to it. it’s confusing at first because the inside area is in an l-form, and anyone moving between the bar and night café bar area usually traipses through the men’s changing rooms. the outside area is quite large and appealing, but it was cool and raining at times, so little used that evening.
i was greeted on entering by a woman i would have gone with in a flash if she’d been available. she proceeded to give me the newbie ritual at about a thousand words a minute, so that by the end i was gazing into her eyes quite happily as she gabbled on about negotiating anal sex; but it was such a flood of information that i was really none the wiser at all, except that she wanted eur 50 from me. i didn’t really care, i needed a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and every club’s the same really. she disappeared for a couple of minutes and returned to give me my dressing gown, towel and shepherd me through to the changing area. all this time there were guys waiting outside to enter. surely this could be done more efficiently.
i was so disoriented i had to ask twice to find the showers, but after i settled at the bar things began to slot into place and i could scan the line-up. i was quite impressed. in the main bar it’s quite easy to get into contact with girls. elsewhere, not so easy. there were perhaps 30-35 girls, not many more men on average. something for everyone’s taste, although i must say that many were more on the chunky big-breasted side rather than the svelte nymphs that i tend to prefer. but i was not to be disappointed.
the main moan from me is – as always – that the girls are not naked. but ok, i’m not going to change that. the teeny element was covered by a string of bulgarian girls who paraded all along one of the large sofas, chattering among themselves. looked funny. in one corner of the bar was a useful polish contingent, and the rest were rep001tered around as usual.
the two bonuses for me – apart from the fact that i made three rather lucky choices – were the good food and the general atmosphere. much friendlier and more relaxed than gt, and the girls confirmed this too from their point-of-view on more than one occasion. for this reason alone i shall probably revisit phg before ever returning to gt. the hot food was served at 17.30 and was edible. can’t be said of all clubs. and later in the evening they threw a whole load of gambas on the barbecue and served them up with wine. good stuff.
my choices
melanie, lithuania
dyed blonde hair
approx. 1.65
around 30
b/c breasts, tuned, nice soft curves
melanie has a very attractive smiling face and is a good conversationalist. first-rate german. she’s been around the clubs, a good professional. the main trouble was that without seeing her naked, i couldn’t notice that the breasts were tuned, or that she had just huge, and quite worn, areolas. i didn’t like them at all.
but otherwise she was a good session. i’d checked very precisely, what services she provided, trying to tell whether she did them with conviction. well, i must say, she didn’t disappoint. her kissing was deep and long, and really got little tosc going nicely. and what i really liked (and this was the case with all the girls i was with), is that she was always happy to return to more kisses time and again. for me this is an important part of the illusion of gfe, none of this ok-we’ve-got-that-bit-over-with-now-let’s-go-down-for-the-blowjob-and-that’s-hopefully-it. you’ve all experienced that i guess. expert blow job and 69, and all the positions little tosc wanted. given the view of her chest, i spent most of the time carefully harnessing little tosc in doggie, and this position was supremely attractive visually. :-) after we finished she said we still had a few minutes left, so we schmusten on and i ran my hands around that delectable arse. nice touch. good value.
daria, poland
shoulder-length natural straight blonde hair
tall, 1.74, with long, long legs
i reckon about 20
a breasts with beautiful nipples
daria’s from katowice. german is pretty good, considering she’s not been in germany that long. she was previously in a laufhaus (my heart sank initially), but is a total convert to the fkks. she has a lovely mischievous smile, which eventually sold her for me. again no problem with my requests, so i took the plunge against my best instincts.
well, i was wrong. she was great, totally committed, and clearly enjoyed herself. not a gramme of fat on that long lean body, and i had my fun. surprisingly good bbbj for one so young, and after i’d eased her hand away, it got better and better. she was even asking if that was right now. good stuff. the crescendo after a good half hour was in cowgirl, long, powerful and sustained, until we collapsed back on the bed. so, a laufhaus girl came good. i never thought i would see the day.
i was seriously depleted on the sperm front after that and needed a couple of hours before i could reasonably go on the prowl again.
but it gave me a chance to observe. i parked myself in the changing rooms for about twenty minutes to observe the payment routines. i must say, most of the guys seemed pretty happy, judging by the smiles and banter with their partners. a good sign.
back in the bar, i was contemplating a hauntingly beautiful very tall, thin brunette who always sat on the same stool and never spoke with other girls. but a couple of guys walked away after talking to her, and she too brushed off a couple of approaches, so i wasn’t getting the right vibes at all. very, very thin. anyone know who she is?
as it happened i managed to get the attention of a girl who’d been very busy, and who had impressed me with the attention she was giving to her customers. this continued all evening. a very pleasant intelligent personality.
kimberly, duisburg
long frizzy natural auburn hair
about 1.67
i reckon about 25
great natural c breasts
i was convinced she must be ukrainian, but no, as deutsch as they come. she comes very close to my perfect body, and her attitude was exemplary too. great kissing, deep, deep bbbj. little tosc was up and running in a flash. only difficulty was that she had little strength in her arms so 69 had to be curtailed, which was a great shame. left more time for loads of athletic sex with a great female body. finished with cim. she well deserved her eur 75. pity she wanted to go and fuck loads of other men instead of coming back home in the car with me. you can’t win them all.
The teeny element was covered by a string of Bulgarian girls who paraded all along one of the large sofas, chattering among themselves. Looked funny. That 's the string of Romanian girls, you will find always as a group chatting. You find them sitting on the large brown sofas close to the pillar in the bar.
Back in the bar, I was contemplating a hauntingly beautiful very tall, thin brunette who always sat on the same stool and never spoke with other girls. But a couple of guys walked away after talking to her, and she too brushed off a couple of approaches, so I wasn’t getting the right vibes at all. Very, very thin. Anyone know who she is? Sure I know! That 's Angelina, she claims to be from Spain ... . To put it mildly you were not the only one not getting the right vibes with her.
For a Monday 30-35 girls is really not bad. Wednesday there were about 40 girls, last Sunday 30 girls but a lot of Icebears because the sun was shining and the weather was nice.
Regards,
Big30
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Back in the bar, I was contemplating a hauntingly beautiful very tall, thin brunette who always sat on the same stool and never spoke with other girls. But a couple of guys walked away after talking to her, and she too brushed off a couple of approaches, so I wasn’t getting the right vibes at all. Very, very thin. Anyone know who she is?
....Great report, thanks! I've also been with the lovely Melanie and I share your views. A great personality providing great service. She does not do CIM, and charges also EUR 50 for extensions (usually extensions are EUR 25 per half hour).
The beauty you describe could be Angelina. A beautiful woman, big dark eyes, early twenties. She's from Spain, I once went with her and it was one of the worst experiences I've ever had in Germany. She simply did everything wrong. No kissing, no DATY, no BBBJ (because of a tooth infection she said), no passion, no empathy whatsoever for what a man likes (and my likes are not so complex.), totally unsuited for this kind of work. She managed to let the condom snap to my cock, and I'm not into SM. I pity her boyfriend. But God, what a beautiful body! That and the doggy position gave me some fun in the end.
Because we were (according to her) 5 minutes over 30 minutes, she wanted EUR 60. I had checked the time though, and gave her 50, and that was that.
On the plus side, she is a nice girl really, and we did laugh, also in the room. But for sex? No thanks, not even for free. A better career option would be Thekenfrau (bartender).
From Thursday till Sunday Oktoberfest.
Warsteiner
09-24-07, 19:30
From Thursday till Sunday Oktoberfest.
I love the fact that the Oktoberfest is in September just to confuse tourists :)
Warsteiner
10-07-07, 11:49
I arrived at 1pm and headed into the club. There were about 20 women in the club and the quality was very good for the time of day. There was quite a big group of Rumanian women who were taking up almost half of the main room but Loredana and Lavinia were not amongst them :( I was visiting the club in the hope of having a session with both of these women but I knew that they may not arrive until 4pm.
I had a look around and some breakfast and decided to have a session in the hope that Loredana or Lavinia would arrive later. I spotted a slim/sporty looking girl and approached her.
Luisa is in her early 20's with short fair/blond hair, B-cup breasts and looks very sporty. I can't remember where she is from but she is East European. She works the 1 month on/1 month off cycle and this was her 4th day so she'll be around for a while. She was a bit cold in the main room but did lighten up in the room. Once we got to the room she was chatty and laughing but when I tried to kiss her she replied 'I don't kiss!'. This wasn't a good start to the session however she made up for it by provding a fantastic BBBJ with lots of ball sucking and her tongue darting everywhere. Sex in a couple of positions until I finished and then we were straight out of the room.
Looks - 9. Great looking if you like the sporty type
Session - 5. Doesn't kiss and doesn't tell you this until you're in the room but does provide one of the best BJs I've ever had.
Overall - 5 due to the BBBJ
Repeat - Not unless you're only interested in BBBJ and then it's best to ask if she does CIM.
I headed back to the main room and saw Loredana had arrived however it looked like she had just got out of bed. She was naked apart from a towel rapped around her, was wearing slippers and didn't have any make up on. She chatted to the Rumanian girls and then disappeared again. I'm sure very few of the girls in these clubs would be so brave as to appear without make up however Loredana still looks good without make up. I waited for her to reappear and she arrived just as the food was being served. We chatted for a while and then headed of to the room. Loredana is 20 (looks about 18) from Rumania with long blond/fair hair, extremely pert B-cup breasts, very slim with a really tight/pert ass. I've previously had one sesison with her, in August, and she remebered me, which is always nice. Good DFK, BBBJ, sex in various positions.
Looks - 9
Session - 9. She really gets into sex in the cowgirl position and will grind herself into you.
Overall - 9
Repeat - Yes. Loredana is a lot of fun and will constantly be laughing and joking during the session so highly recommended.
After the session I managed to grab the last of the great food that you get at this club, had a couple of saunas and then headed home. A good day and PHG is still my favourite club.
Loredana is 20 (looks about 18) from Rumania with long blond/fair hair, extremely pert B-cup breasts, very slim with a really tight/pert ass. I've previously had one sesison with her, in August, and she remebered me, which is always nice. Good DFK, BBBJ, sex in various positions.
Looks - 9
Session - 9. She really gets into sex in the cowgirl position and will grind herself into you.
Overall - 9
Repeat - Yes. Loredana is a lot of fun and will constantly be laughing and joking during the session so highly recommended.
....A good day and PHG is still my favourite club.
Warsteiner,
Sounds like you and I have similar taste as far as PHG and Lorredana. IMO, PHG has the most impressive lineup of Romanian girls in all of the NRW clubs (Lorredana, Desiree, Simona to name some of the top ones). Lorredana has probably the tightest body and the greatest hair--long, thick, curly blond hair--of anyone at the club. Not to mention that cute little butt to die for. Doggy style is her favorite position and she loves to pound. Woof Woof!!!
GabrielPontello
10-10-07, 15:17
glad to hear this starlet is back...
she'e really nice and apparently happy to work there
I had 3/4 sessions with her last year and will head back to PHG soon
she is the best performer in the romanina gang though the rest of the gang is not bad at all...
thanks for the interesting news
Been there 13 Oct.
Friday evening, cause of bad organization, arrived at h.23. Complete drama. We were in 6 and they give 3 locker, cause of too many guests. Girls were enough, but the quality was really poor, apart from 2-3 very goodlooking. Most of all there were a blond tall angel, but she seemed very tired or bored and the will to go passed in a second. Finally I've done sauna, 2-3 beers, a coffee, 3 showers, wear myself and go home. On 6, only 2 had session. That's all folks.
Lavina is most time in Stuttgart/Fellbach.
http://www.erosplanet.com/fkk-haus/girls/bianca_gr_2.jpg
As for now, Loredana will stay 'longer' in PHG. Whatever this means.
Lavina is most time in Stuttgart/Fellbach.
http://www.erosplanet.com/fkk-haus/girls/bianca_gr_2.jpg
As for now, Loredana will stay 'longer' in PHG. Whatever this means.The picture you show is of a girl that worked long in PHG and there had the name Louisa! That is not Lavinia!!
Regards,
Big30
Hollandmale
10-26-07, 07:36
The picture you show is of a girl that worked long in PHG and there had the name Louisa!....., the girl in the picture is Louisa-PHG, without a doubt.
Day 3. Once more into the breach. Thanks to a tip from Breadman, I headed north out of Koeln today to Planet Happy Garden. Once again, I found the place with no difficulty. Once again, gents, I must stress it's time to ditch the expensive GPSs for the cheap Google maps. When the Google map says turn right after 3.1 km, that's where I've found the turn each and every time. Not 3.2 or 3.0, 3.1.
After the busts that I found in both Bernd's and Samya, I found Planet Happy Garden to be nothing short of Disneyworld for horny boys. Good looking women of all sizes, shapes, and nationalities in healthy abundance. While not all were to my taste, clearly very few were downright unattractive as had been the case yesterday, though less so at Samya than Bernd's. If it's ethnic diversity you want, there's more than enough at the appropriately monikered Planet Happy Garden. If it's Eastern European girls you're looking for, look no further. The first woman I met was a live wire with a lithe body, a Medusa haired little Turkish girl who could have turned my little guy to stone had the time been right. She tried to seduce me within moments of my entering the joint and had she been 15 minutes later, she'd have been successful. I was, however, determined to survey the whole scene before getting down to business. Sadly, when I looked for her a bit later, she was nowhere to be found. I didn't see her again until I was on my way out the door. As I was chatting with Patricia, girl from Nigeria, Adela walked by turning my head as she passed. Patricia suggested, knowing she'd lost any shot at maintaining my interest, "You like blondes." Well, I do, as well as brunettes and redheads, but for the moment I liked this particular blonde.
Copping a seat on a couch with a direct view of Adela, who had by now taken a seat adjoining several of her Romanian friends, I saw, right smack dab in front of Adela, a bowl of apples. Getting up and walking across this little bit of Eden, I grabbed an apple, exchanged a smile with the bright eyed young woman, and went back to my couch and ate it slowly, my eyes one her all the while. Upon finishing the apple, I bade my perch farewell and joined Adela on the couch, greeted her with the customary, "Sprechen sie Englisch?" and was duly informed that she spoke no Deutsch and didn't care to learn. Fine with me, so long as she continued to speak her heavily accented English in a voice that, to me, was indistinguishable from Marlene Dietrich. Young Adela and I headed off to more private quarters.
And then there are girls who just look prettier smiling. Strolling around, I happened past a pretty brunette. So, it seemed to me, happening past her again might be just the thing to do and happen past her again I did, sooner rather than later. This time, I happened to make eye contact and smile at her, the smile shyly returned. As my knees turned to jelly, my distinguishing male feature turned hard in an equal and opposite reaction. I knew I had to have this woman and knew at the same time that I was in a place where I could. Disneyworld indeed, except that the ride that was Kiniga had no line. Off we went to the zimmer. Getting there, I hit her with the all important question, “Do you kiss?” And Kiniga replied perfectly, “Sometimes.” The face-sucking commenced as we alternately kissed and conversed, Kiniga in a delightful broken English, smiling sweetly throughout. Finally, she looked at me with her big beautiful eyes and asked, turning a simple gerund into a perfectly formed, eloquently phrased sentence, “Blowing?” “Yes,” I replied, not wanting to disappoint either Kiniga or myself, and this sweet young angel went to town. Kiniga spent several minutes down below, me in sheer adolescent delight, before she again looked up at me, inquisitively, conveying more with one word than Thomas Pynchon with 500 pages, “Fucking?” I responded, deadpan, “That’s a wonderful idea.” Her English was strong enough to detect the humor in my reply and she laughed, covered me, and reduced me to a mere shell of my former self.
Sadly, my day was now done as, when Kiniga and I went upstairs, her sister, whom she’d told me was working in the same club, was up in the locker room making out with another client. Looking nothing at all like Kiniga, the sister was probably the most stunning young woman, to my eye, in the club this day. Next time, perhaps.
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... I found Planet Happy Garden to be nothing short of Disneyworld for horny boys. Good looking women of all sizes, shapes, and nationalities in healthy abundance. ... If it's ethnic diversity you want, there's more than enough at the appropriately monikered Planet Happy Garden. If it's Eastern European girls you're looking for, look no further.
Very true. PHG has become a must-visit destination for me every time. Plenty of Hungarians, Romanians...and German babes too. The food is also the best there, especially during the summer months when they have the outside BBQ going.
After hitting FKK Oase, PT Dorsten, had to take my buddy over to Happy Pussy Garden. Told him that I loved the club do to the layout, first class facilities and by far the best dinner in FKK pussyland......of course the main reason is the women....
The lineup at PHG is top notch. Young model types, from all countries, are lined up ready for action.
First session was with a Ukrainian dark haired girl. Can't remember her name but when she walked me over to show me the morning buffet, as I walked closely to her tight body and nice ass, my dick started to tell me....you gotta fuck her. So off to the room we went. BBBJ, Cowgirl, Mish. Good session and cum number one.
Session number two was Loredana, curly blondish hair, blue eyes. She has that "I am here to fuck" walk. She along with Noel know how to walk with an attitude. Fucking Loredana doggie style was a true highlight of the day. With her ass pumping back and forth across my prick. Had a really funny laugh at the end of the session. As I came in her doggie, I held her tight enjoying the last few moments, it was at this second that she suddently arched her head back towards mine and banged the back of her head across the back of mine while still holding her doggie position. She suddenly then burst out laughing and I could litterly feel her pussy laughing against my cock. A good way to end the session.
Session number three was with Annette from Poland. Blondish hair, blue eyes, small tight tits. Real GFE experience sex. A good way to end the session.
My buddies mission of the day, was to fuck a tall Amazonion blonde with big tits. He got his mission accompished. Her name was Anja. 25 years old, German girl. Cowgirl, Doggie, Mish, DATY. He felt like a true champ and got many looks walking out of the Zimmer since he is on the shorter side and she was over one feet taller than him. I told him, he got to chop down the Amazon forest that day.
What day of the week were you there? I'll try to hook up with Anja next week.
First session was with a Ukrainian dark haired girl. Can't remember her name but when she walked me over to show me the morning buffet, as I walked closely to her tight body and nice ass, my dick started to tell me....you gotta fuck her. So off to the room we went. BBBJ, Cowgirl, Mish. Good session and cum number one.
Probably Tatjana. New girl 25-27 years old.
What day of the week were you there? I'll try to hook up with Anja next week.
Hey Woof,
Was there on Wednesday all day until around 8PM and Thursday Morning until 3PM. Saw Anja working on both days.
Probably Tatjana. New girl 25-27 years old.
Willem,
That name now rings a bell. I believe that is it. Good service, good company and speaks fluent Russian and pretty good English.
What day of the week were you there? I'll try to hook up with Anja next week.Anja works only 3-4 days a week. In the weekends she normally is not in Happy.
Big30
Kingwenslas
11-20-07, 17:59
Hi guys, I have not posted that many reports lately, so it’s time I got writing: -
Back in the summer I visited Happy Garden for the first time ever. Last Wednesday 7th November I went back. The first girl I did was Polish and looked a little bit like the actress Madeline Zima. Click here to see a picture http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0956526/ of this actress. The only difference I would say is that my girl had fantastically large and firm breasts, defying all laws of biology and physics. The sex was very good and I recommend her. I’m still daydreaming of her on top with her boobs wiggling in front of my face. Ah yes, what a session.
After a break two German girls talked me into doing a double session with them. I think their names were Sabrina and Nadia. One is a tall blond and the other a shorter brunette. This session was Ok but too close to my previous one, so I kept it down to half an hour.
Finally (and the main reason why you should read this report) I had a bad experience with a Polish blond called Magda. She is early 20s but looks late 20s. She has quite large breasts and has a classic hour-glass figure. She only speaks Polish. My whole experience with her illustrates how stupid we men can be when we only think with our balls (well, me anyway): -
Back in the summer I visited PHG for the first time with a friend of mine (Noskin). When we arrived we each popped a viagra pill and went and laid outside by the pool and had a conversation about how throbbing our penises were. Finally, when I could bear it no longer, I went inside and selected Magda for a session and it was fantastic as you could probably imagine. Noskin did not actually think Magda was that attractive, but this fact just made me even hornier for her. The only thing I didn’t like was that she was a complete clock-watcher, which was a bit self-defeating as I virtually always upgrade to an hour anyway. But not in this case.
When it came to having a session later in the day I should have used all my experience and judgement and not chosen her, but my balls told me otherwise. Once again the sex was fantastic, except she was determined to finish me off quickly after 15 minutes or so, and I wanted to stretch it out to an hour. Finally, about 22 minutes into the session she suddenly got up and walked out, indicating that 30 minutes were over. This was bad enough, you may think, but she then went out and told her Polish friends that I was one to avoid, and sure enough, later in the day when I wanted a session with one of them I was rejected. This was quite a blow and ruined my enjoyment of the club.
So guess what happened two Wednesdays ago? She was there, but I ignored her for the first few hours, but she was conciliatory and smiled a lot. And then, complete idiot that I am, only thinking with my balls, I selected her for a session, and asked her to bring along friend – you know just for fun.
When the three of us entered the room, her friend excused herself for a moment and Magda and I were left alone. She wanted to start, but I wanted to wait for the friend to come back. Basically 10 minutes later, yes 10 minutes later, the friend came back and I indicated that the 30 minutes should start now. Magda did not like this at all, saying that her time had started 10 minutes ago. So we got into an argument and then I left. It was my own fault, I should have known better. If ever you go to PHG then avoid Magda.
Toscana – I too contemplated the hauntingly beautiful very tall, thin brunette who always sat on the same stool and never spoke with other girls, and I too avoided her. Good to compare notes on this one.
Two more things – firstly I think I’m the only person I know who actually prefers the girls to be wearing underwear and swimsuits. I think it’s more like real life, if you know what I mean (I’m sure someone will have something to say about this, but on a website this size, it’s probably been said before).
And finally, yes, I prefer PHG to Golden Time too.
Kingwenslas
Got to PHG at 1pm to find more girls than punters. There were about 40-45 girls that afternoon. Not as many 8-9s compared to GT but enough doable babes for the day. I noticed quite a few Romanians including a couple whose first ever day at an FKK was that day. I believe PHG is the club with the most Romanian girls these days--about 20 to 25, according to a Romanian girl and a fellow Dutch punter whom I chatted with at the bar. I was also surprised to see Innes, the Polish girl formerly of GT. Innes has lost weight especially around the gut and butt areas, looks great, and no longer wears those wire-rimmed glasses she used to wear when she worked at GT. She didn't speak much English so our conversation was brief. Lorredana was there and looked smoking hot with that hair mane, and the long legs and cute little butt. Enough has already been written about her here.
My first session was with Paula, a 23yo, Polish girl from outside Krakow. Paula is about 1.70m, shoulder-length dark blond hair, with natural B-cup, tall and lean, with a girl-next-door look. She is in fact a country girl and told me she doesn't like big cities. She's been at PHG for about 3 months along with her sister who doesn't really look like her and sports black hair. In terms of service, I'd give her good grades for bbbj, DATY, and a tight kitty that I took woof woof style. On the other hand, she doesn't kiss, not even LFK and has a tendency to look somewhere else even when she talks to you. Because of those things, I'd rate my experience in the zimmer with her as mediocre.
Later, I sessioned with Brooke, a 24yo, blonde Scottish girl from Edinburgh with big natural tits and a gorgeous face and smile. Brooke is on the thick side with a big butt but her titty play and her sweet and enthusiastic attitude more than made up for the previous disappointing session. Brooke provides an excellent bbbj, enjoys DATY, playing with herself, and does anal for a premium charge. I finished with an intense COB on those big areolas, woof woof!
After getting an excellent massage from Udo, taking in a soccer match btw Germany & Wales on the screen in the Nachtcafe and a few more beers, it was time for the final shag of the night. As luck would have it, I found Sandy, a German blonde from Koln with a gorgeous face and a fine body including a bubbly butt. Sandy is 24yo, 1.68m, b-cup, speaks impeccable English, and told me she's the only German girl at the club that day. Sandy has a very pleasing demeanor and I ended up spending 1h30 in the room with her. Even though I only had enough for one SOG, it was time well spent as we spent a lot of time DFK and chatting besides the usual service on the menu: superior bbbj, DATY, MPOS, etc. Sandy is a real gem and is a sure repeat in the near future.
Does anyone recall a stunning German girl with black hair around shoulder length, about 5'8"/1.7m, gorgeous face and terrific round ass? I've seen her at both PHG and GT. I cannot remember her name and just wondering which club she might be working at now. I thought her home club was/is PHG. She speaks some English by the way.
This saturday there will be a Nikolaus-Party in PHG.
http://www.kiki-net.de/smilies/feiertage/tannenbaumtanz.gif
Eric Burden
12-09-07, 22:22
I visited PHG for the first time recently. Overall, it was a disappointment. It was crowded, the girls were uninspiring and the food was almost non-existent. Entry was the standard 50euro for N. Germany area.
The club has a small locker room/shower area that is always crowded. They have another room that has an ok sauna, self serve drinks (including beer) and the food area (not much there in early afternoon). A third area is the crowded and smoky bar area that the girls hang out. The girls were predominantly Eastern Europe and looked rough - heavy smoking, tats, piercing.
I picked up 23yr old Paulina from Poland. She was clean looking - no smoking or tatoos. We went to the room. She disappeared for 5 minutes to go to the toilet (usually a bad sign). The room was nice - big, clean, comfortable. She started with an okay BBBJ. Then I fucked her in several positions - cow girl, doggy, missionary and came in her. She was very pretty and accomodating but not passionate at all - very mechanical. Nice girl, but just in it for the money.
This club is okay but other clubs are much better - especially facilities, food and girls. Would not repeat.
EB
If your timing is bad I guess you could go hungry at PHG, but you would have to work at it.
Breakfast items are available until 4pm and dinner is usually around 6:30 or 7pm. On a busy night, if you are in a room during dinner you could get bypassed but there is also pizza later in the evening.
During the summer months there is an outdoor grill and food service is available until late in the evening.
Hook
Food Usually Not an Issue at PHG
No and last Saturday it was really good. It was a special occasion but the food was excellent and enough for everyone. There about 75 girls and also a lot of men. But the party was really nice.
Smal list of girls which where also at the party: Aleko (P), Alini (Br), Anja (G), Brooke/Sandy (Rus), Chris (R), Corinna (G), Denise (Lib), Dominica (P), Elly/Emmy (P), Eva (R), Eve (P) Georgiana (R), Gina (M), Ginger (G), Grace (R), Ina (R), Katharina (H), Kati (G, Ex-GT Anna), Kiara (R), Kimberly (G), Kinga oder Paulina (P), Kira (D), Laura (Lt), Lazarina (B), Loredana (R), Melana (H), Melissa (P, Ex-GT, Now Lisa), Natascha (Lit) Roxanna (P), Sandra (P), Simona (R), Sina (G), Tatjana (Ukr), Stella (G), Tina (G), Veronika (P), Yula (P) (G=Germany, P=Poland, R=Romania, H=Hungary, B=Bulgaria, Br=Brazil, M=Maroc.)
I went with a blond girl named Corinna. She is from germany and will give you a nice service. Nice blue eyes, nice breasts, about 27 years old. Most of time working on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
Dominica had some new breasts but they look really nice.
Some really nice girls from romania; Loredana, Kiara, Chris, Simona.
Special tip: Sina from Germany.
Nothing much to report other than I really like this club. It's small in the winter with the outside pool area not usable but still a very nice club. There's never any "attitude" and people are very nice. I visited PHG, GT, and Palace this trip and would say PHG in spite of being small had the best number of girls that I would categorize as girls I would be thrilled to have the chance to be with back home in the US. On Friday I counted 12-15 that I thought were very attractive to me and I would love to have had time, money, and fortitude to be with. I happen to like the Romanian girls quite a bit and find some of them very attractive and most of them pretty good in the room. I'm fond of all the girls at PHG really; a very nice setup.
Nothing much to report other than I really like this club.
Ok. So who did you go to the zimmer with? Names? Capsule reviews?
Ok. So who did you go to the zimmer with? Names? Capsule reviews?
Carina and Ava(Romanians) were visiting from Stuttgart. I was with both of them and Carina was especially a GFE.
Veronika(Poland) is a girl I knew from before and as usual very much a GFE and surprisingly talented. She looks like such a nice girl but she's a love machine to me. She's a little bit of a PSE I would say.
Monty Burns II
01-25-08, 14:27
I visited PHG again last week. I entered the club around 5. 00 pm on a quiet Wednesday afternoon. Kinda slow day, since a nearby club (Villa Vertigo) had just opened a few kilometers away. However, I still managed to have two excellent sessions.
#1. Kris from Hungary. Nice girl. Brunette, nice body/face, sexy grin all over the session. Steamy sex, I'd say a PSE kind of session. Maybe a bit too pushy outside the room, but she's a good provider. I think I would repeat.
#2. Bianca from Germany (? ). Cute young chick, nice body, sexy eyes. Wonderful 60 min session. BTW. This girl's very good at giving footjobs if that's your thing.
In my experience, these so called 'slow days' are definitely not that much of an issue, provided the selection's not too bad. The girls are more relaxed and apparently they give better service.
Monty, could you estimate how many girls were working? ...both day and nightshift.
I visited PHG again last week. I entered the club around 5. 00 pm on a quiet Wednesday afternoon. Kinda slow day, since a nearby club (Villa Vertigo) had just opened a few kilometers away.
Vertigo is only a few kilometers away? I thought it was located in Dusseldorf.
Vertigo is only a few kilometers away? I thought it was located in Dusseldorf.No, Villa Vertigo is just 5km away from PHG close to the airport from Grefrath/Oedt :);)
@ Breadman
It depends on the day but there are always 35 and more girls present. The latest report speaks about 60girls on a Friday.
Vertigo is only a few kilometers away? I thought it was located in Dusseldorf.
6.8 km to be exact (from Google maps).
www.villavertigo.de
I hope Vertigo does not pull so many girls from PHG and GT that you have to go to all three clubs just to get the same amount of girls the two clubs used to have.
Monty Burns II
01-26-08, 11:01
Hi Breadman,
I'd say 25 girls were present the day I was there, maybe 20 in the afernoon and 30 after, say, 8 pm. Very few icebears, too. Hence the unrushed service.
Technically, the area's really full of big clubs these days. PHG, VV, GT, LR. I wonder, too, if there's enough talent available to give each venue a nice line up.
I hope Vertigo does not pull so many girls from PHG and GT that you have to go to all three clubs just to get the same amount of girls the two clubs used to have.Some girls are not allowed to travel to all the clubs.
And there are still more girls coming everytime.
I wonder, too, if there's enough talent available to give each venue a nice line up.
If you are a person who lives in Germany/Holland and has plenty of time it is a non issue because you will just go to the club that suits you. But for us travelers who might have only a few days it was easy before- I just went to PHG one day and GT the next then picked my favorite for the third day. I am returning again next month and realize that if some of the girls I admire are not at PHG or GT I might have to try VV just to see if I am missing them but I would rather not have to. I know for a fact the management at PHG will not volunteer that a girl has moved to VV and I don't blame them. Until the dust settles this is just the way it is I guess. Before Vertigo opened I was under the impression it was going to be in Dusseldorf the city so I never considered it "cannabilizing" talent from PHG or GT.
I guess the other question I would have for measuring the impact of either club is how many girls did each club normally have present on average and how many now? I would say PHG normally had between 30-40 before.
Monty Burns II
01-26-08, 21:35
I guess the other question I would have for measuring the impact of either club is how many girls did each club normally have present on average and how many now? I would say PHG normally had between 30-40 before.Well I guess we'll just have to wait a couple of months and see. Provided there's no other new clubs opening in the meantime! I'm a traveller too, and I share your views on this. Last time I was in PHG I was looking for Loredana/Shakira (excellent provider imho) but couldn't find her. Was she just on holiday, or did she move to VV or what? Hopefully all the clubs will be packed with talent soon. Visiting 2 clubs in a day (door + cab) would be too expensive for me.
MB
Last time I was in PHG I was looking for Loredana/Shakira (excellent provider imho) but couldn't find her. Was she just on holiday, or did she move to VV or what?
MB
Shakira is back in Happy, she was just on holiday. She has no plans to move to VV.
In PHG you will still find 40-60 girls mostly. In Gt even more, depending of course a little on the day of the week!
Last Wednesday I spoke to some girls in VV that left that day Gt because 70-80 girls were there. But Ok Friday they were back in Gt.
The HW in VV (furniture, design, materials, decoration etc.) is A+++, really much better than PHG or Gt.
But we will have to wait a few months. Then it will become clear if VV has managed to have a attractive line-up!
I was in VV 3 times since they opened their doors, I was very satisfied!
Regards,
Big30
Monty Burns II
01-27-08, 10:23
Thanks for the news, Big30. Glad to hear Lori's back.
70-80 girls in GT? that must have been a lovely sight! Largest line up I've witnessed there was about 50.
MB.
I feel lost and need help! I'm flying in to Dusseldorf next week (Tuesday afternoon) and was thinking of driving to (and spending 5-6h) either at the Atrium or Arena both in the vicinity. I had an excellent stay at the Atrium back in May (three 22 yo beauties, owo, cim, 139 EUR in total). But now with all these nice reports on PHG, VV, and GT I feel confused. I have a meeting in Cologne the next day at 9am.
* Which one of these clubs (PHG, VV, and GT) has the best young-teeny line-up?
* Is it fixed pricing or do I have to negotiate, each time, OWO etc or is it 50E per 30 minutes? 25E to extend to 1h?
I guess any of these places will top the CL girls I Delaware.
I feel lost and need help! I'm flying in to Dusseldorf next week (Tuesday afternoon) and was thinking of driving to (and spending 5-6h) either at the Atrium or Arena both in the vicinity. I had an excellent stay at the Atrium back in May (three 22 yo beauties, owo, cim, 139 EUR in total). But now with all these nice reports on PHG, VV, and GT I feel confused. I have a meeting in Cologne the next day at 9am.
* Which one of these clubs (PHG, VV, and GT) has the best young-teeny line-up?
* Is it fixed pricing or do I have to negotiate, each time, OWO etc or is it 50E per 30 minutes? 25E to extend to 1h?
I guess any of these places will top the CL girls I Delaware.
PHG has a pretty good young line up. Very attractive and the rooms are some of the cleanest around. Take a phone number of a taxi service in the area with you. If you get lost, and believe me you will, you can call the taxi to help guide you to final destination. Unless you have GPS.
Look for a large construction type plant out in the middle of the country that sits near a 'Y' junction...PHG will be hidden right next to the junction.
As mentioned below I flew into Dusseldorf Tuesday two days ago (thanks for the suggestions). Landed at 3.30 pm (my goal was to have a first session at PHG at 4.15 :-), missed it by 15 minutes...Easy to find with GPS.
Everything went well and according to previous reports:
* 50 E at the door
Around 30 girls present: 10-15 Romanians (5 of them very young), 3-5 black/dark, Asian, a nice slim Spanish girl, 5-10 German girls (mostly chubbier and older i.e. 30-40) to mention a few.
Free beer, soft drinks, fruit and the dinner was ok (salad, meat, chicken, potatoes etc)
* Session 1 (50 E): Julia 22, Romania, OWO, great body, kissing etc
* Session 2 (50 E): another 20 yo Romanian, fantastic natural large boobs! Great OWO but did not kiss! -but wanted just 25E extra for rimming...what a strange world.
* Session 3 (50 E): there were a couple more young tight Romanians with fantastic "internet" bodies but I figured I had to try something different, I went with a tall blond girl, Francesca 21 (she could have been Anna Kournikovas younger sister, Polish/German), great session, OWO, kiss etc. Funny thing when I picked her up she was sitting with a guy that just ordered in a 300Euro champagne bottle for her and her friend...not sure if she went back to the champagne after our session :-)
I left a happy man! It’s a great value to visit a place like this. 3 sessions, 200E total damage. In comparison, a session with the last girl (Francesca), if you can find that quality, would in the US set you back $350.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-07-08, 23:48
Went to Planet Happy Garden for the first time. It’s a three-level house, with a bar area and lockers on the top level, a lounge area on the next level, and a self-serve bar/dining area and more rooms the next level down. I found the facilities to be very nice and spacious; I don’t know why others have found it small. It has a nice outdoor pool area but no Jacuzzi and no Kino. They also don’t have any porn, just a Fashion TV feed featuring male models, which is not what I, and presumably most customers, want to see. However, the food was excellent, especially the all you can eat large, baked, head-on shrimp they served from 10PM to 11:30PM. The server heaped the shrimp on the plate with a large ladle; he must have put about two dozen on my plate. Probably would have cost at least 15-20 Euros in a restaurant. One guy I saw ate his admission and more in shrimp- he had four plates of two helpings on each plate.
There were about 15-20 girls present, about half doable. My first selection was Josi, 24-year old German blonde with big tits and nice face and smile. Unusual for someone in her field, she would kiss but not allow DATY. Went with her anyway. Very good session, great time fondling and kissing her tits. Next up was Delia, 18-year old brunette from Rumania, with a cute face and big tits, still with some baby-fat on her. Kissed, did BBBJ and allowed DATY, but would not do 69, which seemed strange. Good session.
There were a couple of other girls I thought about choosing but one was always busy and the other I couldn’t decide if I liked her face enough. Around midnight these two started yakking with some other women in the second-level lounge. While I was waiting for them to stop talking so I could approach one of them, two women from the self-serve bar area kept on motioning for me to come on down. I waived them off for a while until I decided that the two I was interested in were finished for the night since they showed no signs of letting up on their conversation.
I thus went to the two women who had called me over and immediately recognized they were Latinas, so I spoke to them in Spanish, which surprised them. One was Helen, a 30-year old Dominicana who looked maybe 25, and the other was a Cubana. They tried to entice me into a threesome but I was not attracted to the Cubana. Although I try to fuck Europeans when I am in Europe, Helen had a striking face and very funny personality, so I went with her anyway. In the room she was very energetic and more PSE than GFE; an excellent session. Asked me to massage her for a while after the half-hour had ended. I did so and she seemed to enjoy it, commenting that now she was relaxed and would sleep well.
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Hi Everyone,
How is public transport from DD to Tönisvort?
Thnx in advance
They also don’t have any porn, just a Fashion TV feed featuring male models, which is not what I, and presumably most customers, want to see.I'm one of those guys who is very happy not to see these sometimes awfull pornmovies in the main rooms. In clubs like Oase for example, it's a big turn-off for me. It's another thing – of course – when they run them in the cinema a lot of clubs have.
Don't need to watch porn in clubs. I'm quite happy to see all the naked ladies in real ;–)
Thanks for your good report.
Globus
Hi Everyone,
How is public transport from DD to Tönisvort?
Thnx in advanceDD-Krefeld-Kempen and take a taxi.
I was at the Karnavalsparty from PHG last saturday. Thank God it wasn't that crowded but it was really nice. Not only was the food again excellent also the cocktails. Furthermore there was a striptease and later on you could also sing Karaoke.
I had a nice session with Samantha the little sister from Jacqueline. They keep the quality into the family. Nice blowjob and a good fuck.
List of girls ( about 45 ) : Aga/Agnieszka (Poland=P), Aische (Bulgaria), Aleko (P), Angelina (Spain), Anja (Germany=G), Anna (Rumania=R), Asha/Asia (P), Bella (R), Carina (R), Carolina (R), Celina ( R), Cheyenne (G/Egypt), Delia (R), Dilara (Turkey), Editha (P), Eva (R), Georgia (R), Gina (Marokko), Ginger (P/Germany), Ina (R), Isabell (P), Jagoda (P), Jana (Slovakia), Josie (G), Kathrin (R), Kiara (R), Kira (G), Loredana (R), Maria (R), Patricia ( Nigeria), Samantha (Czech), Sevka (Bul), Sina (G), Tina (G), Zoë (R) and .......
I was also monday at PHG. In the evening they had there Gamba's night made specially by Johnny :). I have to say with a glass of wine it was excellent.
I had very good sex with Patricia from Nigeria and with Jana from Slovakia. I haven't had such a good blowjob for the last two years.
There were not so many girls (25-30) but the quality was rather good and also not so many ijsberen.
Franceska from Poland is again in the PHG. At least she was there tuesday and friday. According to Willi69 yesterday there were about 58 girls and a lot of girls from Poland ( Alison, Dominica, Isa, Lisa, Sandra, Veronika.....)
Warsteiner
02-09-08, 16:03
Hi Everyone,
How is public transport from DD to Tönisvort?
Thnx in advance
Get the train to Kempen then it's a 10 minutes taxi ride from there. When you grab a taxi just as for Happy Garden and they'll know where to take you.
hand down it is leyla at the moment, a young turkish girl with bright eyes. she smokes more weed than any girl I have been with in years, and her constant need for music from her cell phone is a bit of a pain, but she gives fabulous head, ad has one of the smoothest pussy and asses out there, and she really gets into it, but I know she is absolutely a YMMV girl, and sometimes she smokes so much that she is a bit out of it.....don't expect a short session, but if you bring some time and money, and you click (even though she is dumb as rocks) you can have a great time.
She has curly hair and small breasts, and often wears a g-string.
There were not so many girls (25-30) but the quality was rather good and also not so many ijsberen.
Franceska from Poland is again in the PHG. At least she was there tuesday and friday. According to Willi69 yesterday there were about 58 girls and a lot of girls from Poland ( Alison, Dominica, Isa, Lisa, Sandra, Veronika.....)
Was this last tuesday? I was there almost the entire day...ended up leaving the club around 10pm. The talent level was pretty low in my opinion...maybe 30 girls at the most and only 10 of which were worth approaching. Most of these 10 I remember seeing from previous visits to GT and YinYang last year and the year(s) before. Of all the fkk/sauna clubs I visited on this trip, PHG seemed to have the least amount of talent of those I visited.
I kept on thinking "the night shift must really be stellar since the day shift was just lacking in talent". Id keep turning down girl after girl who just didn't get a rise out of little breadman. Not saying there weren't a couple during the day that could have passed muster...but they just didnt give me the urge to do any approaching. Couple of cuties showed up but figured id wait until the more showed so i could make a better selection. Then the food arrived and I figured id eat first and then decide...ate and looked around. Chose the best alternative....ate again. Ended up doing just one chick...a blonde with a killer body.
I wasn't really too impressed with the club and many of the day shift...but won't write off a revisit since the pool area was closed. Maybe next summer... and a p.s. question....what's with the girls going into the sauna for a minute or two?
a p.s. question....what's with the girls going into the sauna for a minute or two?Guess they use the sauna as a drier just after taking a shower, and leave before they'd start sweating.
Mario Veneto
03-10-08, 07:36
We used our GPS to find the PHG and landed in front of a private house in Butzenstrasse 28.
We had a very hard time to find this club and finally we gave up and went to Villa Vertigo.
We called the club twice and they couldn't or didn't want to help us. The cross street to the Bitzenstrasse they told us on the phone was the wrong one.
When I came back home I checked that on Google Maps.
My tip:
Instead of giving the full address on your GPS , just give the cross street names: Butzenstrasse/Tonisvorst Str. and the club is right on that intersection.
We used our GPS to find the PHG and landed in front of a private house in Butzenstrasse 28.
We had a very hard time to find this club and finally we gave up and went to Villa Vertigo.
We called the club twice and they couldn't or didn't want to help us. The cross street to the Bitzenstrasse they told us on the phone was the wrong one.
When I came back home I checked that on Google Maps.
My tip:
Instead of giving the full address on your GPS , just give the cross street names: Butzenstrasse/Tonisvorst Str. and the club is right on that intersection.
I also had a heck of a time finding the club the first time using Mapquest.de
Had my Dad with me and we ended up calling a Taxi to drive us to the final destination. That's one of my backup plans. If you get close and can't find it, just call a taxi or if you see one on the road tell them where you want to go and, follow it to the Sex Club. Taxi's don't care if you are in the vehicle or not as long as you pay them. I wondered if the new club Villa Vertigo had taken away the talent from PHG. I heard semi-good reports of Villa and your report sounds like the talent wasn't there the night you arrived.
Most mapping software does not always give an accurate location. See
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&t=h&om=1&z=16&ll=51.33391,6.398892&spn=0.005698,0.014291
For an hybrid view of PHG. The club is located just North of the V-shaped warehouses in the picture. You have to pull off the road marked K22 and into what looks like an industrial area to see the parling lot and the entrance. The first time I went there I kept going on K22 for a few miles before turning around and finally finding the entrance.
Hooknose
We used our GPS to find the PHG and landed in front of a private house in Butzenstrasse 28.
We had a very hard time to find this club and finally we gave up and went to Villa Vertigo.
We called the club twice and they couldn't or didn't want to help us. The cross street to the Bitzenstrasse they told us on the phone was the wrong one.
When I came back home I checked that on Google Maps.
My tip:
Instead of giving the full address on your GPS , just give the cross street names: Butzenstrasse/Tonisvorst Str. and the club is right on that intersection.
I've found the directions given on the club's website to be on the mark as long as you manage to get to the second circle and go toward Oedt. The club is indeed about 5km from there on the left. No need for GPS.
since villa vertigo opened in january all i have read about is the impending decline of phg, with many defections of both girls and service staff to the new club. i had made the initial visit to vv on a thursday evening and i had convinced myself that it was indeed a very nice facility and i could probably adapt, although i would miss the old girl i have been visiting for over four years.
so with great anxiety i arrived at phg on an early friday afternoon with about six cars in the parking lot. ringing the bell, the door was opened by an older woman i had not seen before. peeking into the bar did not decrease my anxiety as i didn’t spot any familiar faces. but wait, the woman returned with the key for locker #17, one of my favorite lockers. i sometimes ask for this locker or its nearby neighbors since it is located next to the mirror and out of the main locker room footpath. a good omen? yes, as it turned out.
meeting my friend richard in the nachtcafe
change my clothes and head down to the nachtcafe for a late lunch. there is one guy sitting in the chairs eating and the thekefrau is cleaning up behind the bar but it is quiet overall. there is a nice selection of sliced meat and cheese in small refrigerated coolers so i am standing at the cooler with a fork in my hand picking out some ham when this gentleman walks over, pulls the tray up out of the cooler and walks back to his chair without a word being said. i just stood there until he selected what he wanted and returned the tray to the cooler. not sure of what i did to this guy, i named him dick and went on with my lunch.
food
excellent and plentiful as usual. meat patties and boiled potatoes, some kind of fish, which i avoided, spaghetti and meat sauce, salads and cabbage slaw. about this time an activity commonly starts that i term high school sauna club. this is where adult men cut in line, pinch the girls, get their hands slapped, pinch the girls again and find it all hilariously funny. on saturday i was there for only half a day but the caterer had started roasting a whole pig outside on the patio.
lineup
monique – romanian - made a stroll through a sparsely populated main bar area and as i look up i spot a girl i had not seen for over a year, and from the literature i had assumed she had moved on to other clubs. she is petite, almost waifish, with long dark hair. i have been seeing her at phg for probably three years and to my ultimate surprise she remembered my name. there is something about familiarity that makes the experience rewarding because you are usually guaranteed a good time. she is always excellent in the room for me, highly recommended. she was not there the next day so i felt pretty lucky to see her.
anetta – polish - i see a familiar face sitting with a friend but she looks different in someway. from my vantage point it looks like she had a boob job, not too big but definitely enhanced. as i walked by i asked her name and she says anetta. i knew she speaks english so i told her she looked different somehow. this one did not remember me so i had to reacquaint myself for an extended session. her boobs look nice, not overly large but very hard. from my three days at two clubs it appears the girls are starting to jump on the silicone bandwagon. not everyone is basketball size like in the states but an unfortunate trend in my opinion.
luana– romanian – at least i think this is her name. i could not understand her pronunciation and after three tries i gave up on her name. she is young, tall, and has more of a farmgirl’s look than a model’s look. it was in the middle of the after dinner rush so i decided to go with the untapped potential theory and we went to a room. she is very quiet and reserved but certainly knows the business. a nice girl but would not repeat.
lazarina – bulgarian – also an old acquaintance. not ever what i would call slim, she seemed to be carrying some extra winter weight this time around. but she is warm and friendly and i have a relaxing, pleasant time with her.
sofie, moni – romanian – both young and petite, sofie has reddish hair and has the more sporty figure. moni has half-long blond hair and more of a full figure. i was starting to wrap up my business for the drive back to frankfurt on saturday when they came bouncing through, trying to sell a double-dip. i had seen them in the nachtcafe the day before and they seemed to be having fun, although not particularly busy. i was interested, but not as a pair, so i went with sofie first and then moni. since they are somewhat new to the business you will not be getting a seasoned experience, however they are fresh and energetic and offer sweet, tight romanian cookies.
hooknose
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Hooknose,
Would you say the lineup at PHG was about normal?
I was at PHG in February and my "favorite" girls were not at PHG. So, I went to VV to see if they were there and saw no familiar faces from PHG. I guess my PHG girls were just not working those days. My impression of VV is that it is an extremely nice club indeed but the talent was no where near PHG in numbers and quality. -
If anyone is able to post the current PHG lineup, thanks.
I was there again on a gamba-night (monday) and I think there were about 35-40 girls :
Adella (R), Alison/Alicia (P), Angelina (Spain), Ani (Bul), Asha/Asia (P), Chris (H), Dani (T), Eva (R), Emmy (Th), Georgiana (R), Grace (H), Jasmin (T EX-GT und Ex-LR), Jagoda (P), Joyce (G/M), Kasia (P), Kinga (P), Kira (G), Julia (R), Lazarina (B), Leila (Lit. after a long period back again), Leyla (T), Maria (R), Melanie (Lit), Moni (R), Paulina (P), Salome (C), Sheila (Cech), Sofie (R), Vanessa (P)......
I had a good time with Kira/Kyra and also with Sheila.
Fransesca is now working in Zürich but will go to Villa Vertigo under the name Veronica.
Also girls like Anja (G), Helen (Dom), Ina (R), Jaana (C), Kiara (R), Luana (R), Loredana (R) are still working at PHG.
Saturday I will go again to the party : http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/assets/images/bunny.jpg
Chicafan:
Bear in mind that I am biased toward PHG, but I thought the lineup at PHG was better than VV. Certainly not as good as before VV opened since there was some migration from PHG (and GT) to VV. I only know a handful of girls names so I am not much help in that department.
Maybe somebody knows where all the Russian girls went to. Probably is normal for girls to move around but in the last year several of my favorites (Agatha, Suzanna, Tatjana) have moved to other clubs or maybe quit the business.
Hooknose
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Maybe somebody knows where all the Russian girls went to. Probably is normal for girls to move around but in the last year several of my favorites (Agatha, Suzanna, Tatjana) have moved to other clubs or maybe quit the business.
HooknoseThe Russian girls have more problems because of their papers/passport then before.
Suzanna frum hungary or Croatie are both working in Golden Time.
Tatjana is working in Villa Vertigo.
DD-Krefeld-Kempen and take a taxi.
It will take you from the Kempen train station to just a few hundred meters from the club. It will stop past the corner where PHG sits.
The bus stop name is Graverdyk and the bus number is 66.
I was at PHG in February and my "favorite" girls were not at PHG. So, I went to VV to see if they were there and saw no familiar faces from PHG. I guess my PHG girls were just not working those days. My impression of VV is that it is an extremely nice club indeed but the talent was no where near PHG in numbers and quality.
As usual, the problem a new club faces is finding enough talent.
Its that usual chicken and egg problem: the women want to work where there are enough customers, the customers want to visit clubs where there is a good selection of women. But when a club starts out there aren't enough women and not enough customers and so on.
New clubs go through a shakedown phase. Give it time for the lineup to settle down.
Monty Burns II
03-29-08, 22:09
Hi Jackyo.
'The bus stop name is Graverdyk and the bus number is 66. '
I've always wondered if there's a chance to reach PHG by public transport from either Krefeld or Viersen. Taxis can be confortable at night but pretty expensive.
Do you know if there's a website with proper NRW bus service timetables and routes somewhere?
Thanks in advance.
Felipe2006
03-30-08, 04:50
Hi,
the website you´re looking for is www.vrr.de/de/index.html.
It's in German, English, French & Turkish. Hope this helps,
Felipe
Hi Jackyo.
'The bus stop name is Graverdyk and the bus number is 66. '
I've always wondered... [...] Do you know if there's a website with proper NRW bus service timetables and routes somewhere? Thanks in advance.
Meindorfer
03-30-08, 09:45
I've always wondered if there's a chance to reach PHG by public transport from either Krefeld or Viersen. Taxis can be confortable at night but pretty expensive.
Do you know if there's a website with proper NRW bus service timetables and routes somewhere?
Thanks in advance.http://www.bahn.de/international/view/en/index.shtml
from: Kempen
to: Graverdyk
Meindorfer
Monty Burns II
03-30-08, 14:09
Thanks Felipe,
The link you provided will be extremely useful next time I'm in the area.
Monty Burns II
03-30-08, 18:17
thanks to you too, Meindorfer! Hadn't seen your message when I replied earlier today - I thought bahn.de was just about trains....
:-)
Basketcase
04-02-08, 23:09
Hi,
the website you´re looking for is www.vrr.de/de/index.html.
It's in German, English, French & Turkish. Hope this helps,
FelipeHi Felipe2006,
How you doing?
Thanks for the weblink and the advice on buses and trains. I need to study it a bit.
Londonbasketcase
Basketcase
04-03-08, 07:42
http://www.bahn.de/international/view/en/index.shtml
from: Kempen
to: Graverdyk
MeindorferThank you for the link and how to put in the correct to and from destinations. This sort of detail really helps newbies like me plan their trips.
Thanks again,
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Thank You to all who have been so generous with your time and advice, Especially to WillemII, who I met at the PHG Easter Party. What a great guy who also introduced me to many of his Dutch friends.Yes, it was nice and rather full with IJsberen/Icebears from our forum. But nevertheless in the past it was much more crowded than it is nowadays. But everything was infact nice.
Line up ( about 50 girls): Alini, Angelina, Anni/Anna, Anja, Anna, Bella, Brenda, Brooke, Chris, Ciara / Kiara, Dani, Denise, Dominica, Edytha, Eva, Georgiana, Gina, Grace, Ina, Irina, Isa, Jana, Jenny, Julia, Kinga, Kira/Kyra, Lazarina, Leyla(T), Loredana, Moni, Natalja (russische), Naomie, Nicoletta, Nina, Ola, Patricia, Sofie, Sonja, Veronika, Victoria,...
I went with Denise ( Libanon, blond, 30y, B-cup, 1.70, slim, BJ) very good service and very nice girl.
Than I went with Leyla a turkish version. My God Beffen this is more a girl for you. Young and very beautiful, slim, long dark hair, 19-20years and a beautiful small ass ( lekker kontje.
The last one was Isa from Poland. Super figure , 26y, very blond, nice tanned, 1.70m, B-cup. Very good BJ and als nice kissing with her.
I checked the ISG forum this morning and read that WillemII was coming to PHG today because of an Easter Party so decided this would be my choice. For an all around Good Time this was the best time I spent at any club during my trip. Luckily for me I met Willem when I arrived at PHG. He told me many of his Dutch friends were in attendance and introduced my around. So when I say this was the best time it is from the whole experience and not just the sex. Most of the Dutch men I met spoke better English than me
Because of the Easter Party this was the busiest, most crowded and best of all the most number of girls I saw in one day. I would guess there was at least 50 girls, yes 50 girls! In your wettest, wildest dreams can you imagine 50 gorgeous girls almost naked all wanting sex with YOU! Here at PHG most of the girls wore underwear. It is a big place but the layout is akward because you have to walk thru the locker room to get from one side of the house to the other.
The food for the party was fabulous. A whole roasted lamb, chicken, turkey, and to many side dishes to name and if that were not enough at 10pm they brought out 5 different types of pizza. Seriously, the cost of admission is a Great Bargin without having sex. For 50euros, you can have 2 full meals, snacks, beer and all drinks, sauna, tv, jacuzzi, and the greatest show on earth-the girls. If I lived here I could imagine spending my weekends here watching football, : ))
Back to the girls, while talking to my new friends I had been looking at a very pretty smiling face of a blonde. One of them told me he knows her and she gives Good Service! Unfortunately she didn't speak english so my friend told me he would translate, LOL.
Her name is Victoria from Poland, but sorry guys that was her last day. Blonde, pretty happy face, sweet with a lucious body. Service I would say was great. All she wanted to do for me is was make me happy.
Here is a small hint for anyone who doesn't know Willem or his friends, if they say a woman gives Good Service you can take it to the bank.
Funny with so many great looking women and with friends there to help me screen I ended up only going with Victoria. Since this was the only club I talked with so many men and enjoyed the party atmosphere.
Glad I paid this club a visit.
Karena - romanian, nice athletic body, dyed reddish hair, nice firm tits, tan. Sweet girl. good time.
Spanish girl (sorry, forgot name) - Rail thin, small tits (mine are bigger), tall, real skinny. Session was terrible. Covered BJ. did not cum. Wanted to save my seed.
This took me a while to learn. Learn to cut your loses. The session was going nowhere. Why force yourself to cum? Save your pleasure for someone more deserving. Plus, more the 2 times in a night for me is my max.
Spanish girl (sorry, forgot name) - Rail thin, small tits (mine are bigger), tall, real skinny. Session was terrible. Covered BJ. did not cum. Wanted to save my seed.
This took me a while to learn. Learn to cut your loses. The session was going nowhere. Why force yourself to cum? Save your pleasure for someone more deserving. Plus, more the 2 times in a night for me is my max.Eeuh. It's a pity for you and this girl, named Angelina.She really doesn't like this job. I have never heard that someone is enthousiastic about this girl.
Mario Veneto
04-13-08, 08:06
I arrived at 2:30 PM on Saturday Apr 12th. The place was not very busy. I could count 15 girls and around 10 men. There was no food left. The breakfast stars at 11 and ends around 2 PM. On this Saturday there was a grill party starting at 5 PM.
When I asked the girls why there isn't more girls around ,I was told the place gets busier later around 6 PM.
I was too tired to stay until 6 so I had to shoot and leave the place.
There were around 6 Romanian girls, 3 Russians and 5 Polish girls.
From the Romanian group, Kiara hit my attention. She could be the younger sister of Catherina Zeta Jones. Young (20/22 ?) tall, skinny long legs, great ass and a wonderful face with long dark hair. The rest of the Romanians are below average.
From the Polish group Ixena was definitively the best.
Most of the girls are getting bored because of the lack of action and as soon as I started looking at them they were next to me asking if I want to go to the room.
Due to lack of time and energy, I knew I had only one bullet to shoot so I didn't want to make a mistake. I tried to put in practice all the knowledge I learnt from this forum. Start talking with the girls and find out if the chemistry is there. Who is GFE and who isn't.
I finally sat down next to a blond girl in a sexy red lingerie. Her name was Alexandra. She had an athletic body, great legs, small breast, tanned beautiful skin but her face was only 6 or 7. She didn't not start the conversation with something like "let's go to the room" and that was a good thing ! So we chatted about everything. She's from Russia, has a child and two university diplomas from Russia...She started in PHG yesterday (Apr 11th) and she likes this place. She was 30 and she's in this business for 10 years.
I always had very good experiences with Russian girls because they are so hot and energetic in bed. During my 1st visit at PHG I had great time with a girl from Lithuania. So when Alexandra said that she's Russian, I knew she was the ONE but still I continued to keep a conversation for another 10 minutes just to let her drink out her coffee.
The session in the room was great. She came in the room after the shower and started getting naked. I politely asked her to keep her sexy high heels which she accepted.
She started sucking and licking my balls because during our conversation I told her that I like that. Her deep sucking technique was the quality I was used to get from the Russians pros. Then she started riding on me. When she was on me I could appreciate her beautiful body, small cute breasts and sexy belly. Then we changed in doggy style and again she started to move and ride my dick. I didn't have to do anything, she was just eating my dick with her pussy. I saw her sweating and I was happy to have such an athletic girl in bed. At least I could have effortless but great sex ! By the time I took her in all my favorites positions she was totally sweating. I liked the idea of make her work but I couldn't stand any longer and decided to cum in her.
Unlike many other pros her first reaction was not to get my dick out of her pussy and remove the condom but she let me stay in her for a while. After a while I got out of her and she removed the condom gently. Then we stayed in the bed for another 10 minutes and chatted. I am sure we were over the 30 minutes limit but maybe because the club was so empty she didn't care to stay with me longer. When I asked her why she's sweating that much she told me in Russia we say "if you don't sweat while having sex, then you don't have good sex". I definitively love this culture!
An important detail for GFE lovers: Alexandra doesn't kiss with the tongue and she smokes.
I gave her the official 50e + 10e as a tip. That were my best 60 e I spent for sex since my last visit in Samya Club Cologne, last summer when I had a wonderful time with a Russian beauty Fiona.
After this session, as I was about to leave it was 5 PM and I saw some more girls coming in . From the 20 girls I could see, only two or three are doable for me, but I had to leave...
My second visit in PHG was very satisfying like the first one. Can't wait to come back.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I was also there at the same day as Mario Veneto and also the following girls : Aische (Bul), Alexandra (Rus), Alini (Bra), Angelina (Spain), Anni (Bul), Anna (Rum), Asha/Asia (Polen), Brooke (Rus), Carina (Rum), Chris (Hungary), Dani (Turkey), Delia (Rum), Denise (Libanon), Desiree (Rum), Dilara (T), Ebru (T), Eva (Rum), Flora ( Germany/T), Franceska (Polen), Gina (Marokko), Grace (H), Isa (P), Jana (Cz/SLW), Julia (Rum), Kasia (Polen), Kiara (Rum), Kyra/Kira (G), Lena (Cz/SLW), Leyla (T), Loredana (Rum), Luana/Maya (Rum), Maribelle (Rum), Melissa (G), Moni (Rum), Nancy (Marokko/Libanon), Natalie (Russ), Nicoletta (Rum), Ruby (Rum), Sevka (Bul), Sonja (Polen), Veronika (Polen), Xenia (G), Zoë (Bul) + .... ( about 50)
I arrived at about 5 o'clock and the already started with the BBQ. There was a small line of men waiting for some food so I decided to go to a room before eating. I saw Denise again and we went immediatly to a room. Sex was even better than the time before.
After the sex there was still enough to eat and time to spend with some ijsberen. ( Carpe diem, Tiga, Willi69, Flipper, Babbel, Bredero, JackD, naughtyboy, Rex, Randy, Extince, Hollandmale , Stano)
In the evening I should have gone to a room with Nancy ( I also went with her at Villa Vertigo) but there were no keys. All the rooms were full. So in the end I didn't want to wait any longer and said to her I will see you next time.
Mario Veneto
04-20-08, 06:19
Last Satuday, I was again in Viersen for business and told myself why shouldn't I drive those 20 KM which separates me from Oedt. So I programmed my navigation system and got into PHG at around 2 PM. Unlike last Saturday there was less men but about 15 girls.
At the entrance I saw Melanie, the Lithuanian girl I met in November. She left such a good experience that I decided to go again with her. We chatted first a little and when she finished smoking her cigarette we went into the room.
She started kissing with the tongue and kiss my body, then I drived her head toward my penis and she gave me a very good BBJ. Deep and energetic. I tried to make her lick my balls but her technique was not so good.
Then we started different positions: cowboy, doggy.... Compared to Alexandra (my last visit), she was not so active and she was not moving so well but still she let me shag her in every position as deep as I could.
While I was in her I could kiss her with the tongue and touch her silicon breasts.
Melanie is not the youngest in PHG and maybe not the prettiest , but her service is so good that you forget all this. She can be a real GFE if you know how to treat and respect her.
When I came out from the room I met Loredana. Damned she's hot !
She should be around 25 and she's from Romania. We chatted a little and it seems that Loredana doesn't like Italians (I am lucky to be only half Italian!). She has a very pretty face , unbelievable beautiful eyes and great skinny, petite body with small tits, long legs and smooth skin. I didn't have time for another session with her so I had to leave. I am wondering if her service is as good as her face ! Did anyone on this forum has an experience with her ?
In two weeks time I will be in Rio and Sao Paulo. I will visit the usual places: Quatro por Quatro, Monte Carlo, Centarion and in SP: Bomboa. I will report on all this, hopefully with some pictures when I get back.
Warsteiner
04-20-08, 19:46
When I came out from the room I met Loredana. Damned she's hot !
She should be around 25 and she's from Romania. We chatted a little and it seems that Loredana doesn't like Italians (I am lucky to be only half Italian!). She has a very pretty face , unbelievable beautiful eyes and great skinny, petite body with small tits, long legs and smooth skin. I didn't have time for another session with her so I had to leave. I am wondering if her service is as good as her face ! Did anyone on this forum has an experience with her ?
Loredana is well known on most of the forums as a great provider. Good looker, great sense of humor, eager to please and doesn't rush you. She is always on my to-do list whenever I visit PHG.
When I came out from the room I met Loredana. Damned she's hot !
She should be around 25 and she's from Romania. We chatted a little and it seems that Loredana doesn't like Italians (I am lucky to be only half Italian!). She has a very pretty face , unbelievable beautiful eyes and great skinny, petite body with small tits, long legs and smooth skin. I didn't have time for another session with her so I had to leave. I am wondering if her service is as good as her face ! Did anyone on this forum has an experience with her ?
Yes her service is good/very good! Loredana/Shakira is actually 21 years old. Highly recommended! Last saturday in PHG i counted 43 girls not 15 :-).
Regards,
Big30
Mario Veneto
04-22-08, 06:26
Thank you guys for the feedback, next time I visit PHG I will put her on my to-do list.
Is her name shakira in another club ?
Monty Burns II
04-22-08, 13:04
'We chatted a little and it seems that Loredana doesn't like Italians (I am lucky to be only half Italian!).'
This sounds new to me. I always had excellent sessions with Loredana. We always talk about Italians (like me) and Romanians having lots in common....
Last Friday I visited PHG and decided to invite a " blonde" Thai girl to a room.
On our way to the room we met her girlfiend. She asked if she could come along. So we went into the room together.
After a couple of minutes the grilfriend noticed the Thai girl was bleeding and pointed out this causes a health risk.
I agreed and mentioned I did not want to continue under the circumstances.
The Thai girl was angry and held the other girl responsable for ending the game.
The girlfriend was already dressed when I left the room.
Nothing had happened in those 4-5 minutes other than that my Johny
got himself a condom although a BBJ is supposed to be included in the price.
Half an hour later I was asked to follow the manager who mentioned I should pay both girls as we had been in the room 20 minutes.
One of the girls was supposed to have performed French on me.
I protested and explained the game had not even started, I was not the cause of the problem and nothing whatsoever was done to please me in any way. The stay did not last 20 minutes like the girls had mentioned but less than 5 minutes.
The manager did not believe me and asked me to leave the club.
I was given a "Hausverbot" meaning I am no longer welcome at PHG.
Being barred is not a problem. There are other FKK clubs to choose from amongst which the new Villa Vertigo. I passed that club on my way home.
When problems arise in a threesome you are on your own and stand no chance against two girls who are lying.
Apparently PHG sees fit to charge for the services the girls are supposed to give as soon as you enter the room.
It is not my habit to pay for services not performed even if the lady manager is accompanied by one of the strong arms of the club.
I am in my fifties but have a long background in Oriental Fighting sports.
There is little chance that somebody can impress me let alone succeed in touching me.
I would not consider another visit to PHG even if the "Hausverbot" was not given. My advice: stay away from girls that are new and under no cicumstances take two new girls to a room. You stand absolutely no chance against two lying bitches.
I protested and explained the game had not even started, I was not the cause of the problem and nothing whatsoever was done to please me in any way. The stay did not last 20 minutes like the girls had mentioned but less than 5 minutes.
The manager did not believe me and asked me to leave the club.
I was given a "Hausverbot" meaning I am no longer welcome at PHG.
Being barred is not a problem. There are other FKK clubs to choose from amongst which the new Villa Vertigo. I passed that club on my way home.
When problems arise in a threesome you are on your own and stand no chance against two girls who are lying.
I'm really surprised to hear this. The girls must have made it sound like you were being very disrespectful or something. That one was bleeding makes me think should concern management too. I like PHG but if they ever treated me like that I would not return either.
Warsteiner
04-23-08, 19:50
The manager did not believe me and asked me to leave the club.
I was given a "Hausverbot" meaning I am no longer welcome at PHG.
I saw an argument between a customer and the Manager last year in PHG and pretty much the same thing happened. I don't know the exact issue but one of the men was complaining about a girl that he had just been to the room with. He was saying that the service was completely unsatisfactory, etc. The steroid-pumped doorman was standing in his personal space as he was protesting to the Manager but she was having none of it. I don't know whether he ended up paying for the session or not but he immediately got dressed and was escorted out of the place.
After reading some reports of customers complaining in Palace it seems that the Manager always takes the side of the girls.
It's a good job we have boards like this then you can 'name and shame' the bad providers/rip-off merchants and 'name and praise' the good providers.
Thanks for the report Smokey3 and I'm pretty sure these 2 women (was her friend also Thai?) will not be making much money in PHG.
Basketcase
04-23-08, 20:01
Half an hour later I was asked to follow the manager who mentioned I should pay both girls as we had been in the room 20 minutes.
One of the girls was supposed to have performed French on me.
I protested and explained the game had not even started, I was not the cause of the problem and nothing whatsoever was done to please me in any way. The stay did not last 20 minutes like the girls had mentioned but less than 5 minutes.
The manager did not believe me and asked me to leave the club.
I was given a "Hausverbot" meaning I am no longer welcome at PHG.
Being barred is not a problem. There are other FKK clubs to choose from amongst which the new Villa Vertigo. I passed that club on my way home.
When problems arise in a threesome you are on your own and stand no chance against two girls who are lying.
Apparently PHG sees fit to charge for the services the girls are supposed to give as soon as you enter the room.
It is not my habit to pay for services not performed even if the lady manager is accompanied by one of the strong arms of the club.
I would not consider another visit to PHG even if the "Hausverbot" was not given. My advice: stay away from girls that are new and under no cicumstances take two new girls to a room. You stand absolutely no chance against two lying bitches.Smokey 3,
I am sorry to hear of your experience at PHG. I am making my maiden voyage to PHG this weekend probably attending its hallow halls on Sunday. I am look forward to a wonderful time seeing some beautiful sexual service providers and now I read this report of a difficult situtation where blows could be had but definitely lost of dignity and financial resources.
This does appear to be one big rip off by these two girls.
You do not fully describe the girls or mention their names. If you do this at least the rest of us can look out for these two again and shun their services. Please do let us all know.
I for one would not complain and pay the money and vow never to leave. The "Hausverbot" would be a nail in the coffin to my dignity and feelings.
I am just wondering how a "Hausverbot" is applied. Is there a wall of pictures of forbidden visitors. Is there camera identification or is just up to the lady manager and the heavy to recall seeing your face and remembering you the next time you attempt to enter again?
Please do not feel hurt or feel bad about the situation. I know I would so I can understand how it must feel. Good for you seeing the positive of other sauna clubs to visit. Villa Vertigo is also on my to do list this weekend pencilled in for Saturday with hopefully two other willing comrades in arms to punt/monger the night away (well to closing time at 1am anyway).
Wish me luck.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
Hi Warsteiner,
No her girlfriend was Caucasian, a brunette.
You are right about the short future these girls have as they do not understand or wish to accept the concept of PHG etc.
First thing the girlfriend did was put a condom over my little friend.
Nothing asked just the first thing she did.
It started the alarmbells at a low volume but the warning was there.
PHG management certainly acted very smart to trust the word of two newbees against that of a steady customer.
I have no ill feelings but forgetting is something not to be found in my dictionnary.
Just a word of warning to fellow mongers from an experienced hand at this game.
The steriod guy did not impress me much.
I am 1.95 m tall 122 kg and although in my fifties well trained.
This muscle man decided not to take any chances and left the scene.
Hi Londoner,
I had some pretty good times at PHG in the past.
In general the club management at PHG is quite well organised.
However this lady manager was a new face to me.
She did not know me either I believe.
She made a beginners mistake in management by listening to only one side of the story.
I made the same mistake as a beginning manager many years ago.
The fact that PHG management makes a confrontation out of nothing proves
it is not capable of running the joint.
Finding good management is not easy these days.
Just lately there have been more of those muscle man hanging around.
Not a very positive sign in my book.
In this business an intimidating atmosphere is not good.
Keep your eyes open, look for any signs in a girl you do not like.
Attitude is more important than looks as far as I am concerned.
Villa Vertigo is about 8 km from PHG.
It is a large place at a junction of "Bundesstrassen" outside the village.
I wish you a good time!
I would not consider another visit to PHG even if the "Hausverbot" was not given. My advice: stay away from girls that are new and under no cicumstances take two new girls to a room. You stand absolutely no chance against two lying bitches.I have been reading the whole story about Summer (thai) and Alia (German). My opinion : As soon as you have asked for a key and you are going to a room ; you have to pay. So in this way you always have to pay 100 euro ( 50 each minimum). It doesn't matter what they are doing in the room, you have made the deal. Infact that's normal in every club. The club can't see what is happening in the rooms.
In the past this club paid the bill when customers were not satisfied. By law that's not allowed anymore.
For your reassurance those girls were also send away and are now working again in Golden Time /(Living Room).
Greetings Willem
PS Have you seen the tattoo on the back of Summer?
Maybe you can imagine how this girl has to work.
Kingwenslas
04-24-08, 09:52
Hi Guys
A similar thing happened to me with two Polish girls at the end of last year and I wrote about it on 11.20.07 – the instigator’s name was Magda. My incident happened at the end of the day and it was going to be my last session anyway. Magda ran off to complain and I decided to make a quick getaway. The only problem was that a staff member has to let you out, so after indicating that I wanted to leave, I waited slightly nervously to see who would come over and open the door. Fortunately it was a female manager. She asked me if I’d had a good time and so I told her what had happened. She was sympathetic and bade me good bye.
Kingwenslas
Thanks Willem 2, you are obviously well informed.
I did not know about any "rules" as to the payment obligation.
As far as I am concerned it still makes no difference.
I do not pay for services that were not available.
I keep to my own rules meaning this activity is teamwork.
To be successful all players need to be well motivated and respect each other.
If the game turns out less satisfactory I pay without any hesitation.
That is the risk you take as a participant. With some research you will not likely be disappointed.
On the other hand if the game is spoiled on purpose by other participants I will not pay.
No matter what the consequences or intimidation.
I can understand PHG or any other club does not interfere with what is
basically a deal between a self employed girl and her client.
All the more peculiar they decide to give a "Hausverbot" to the punter.
My feeling there was not much future for these ladies at PHG turned out to be correct.
Good to know they are now working elsewhere.
Come to think of it, this reminds me of a situation I had at PHG a couple years ago. A girl charged me for a service other girls never ask extra for. I paid to avoid an argument at the locker then talked to management. They had her stand with me and told her she was wrong. I did not take the money back(25E) but I never saw her there again. Management was sympathetic.
So with what Willem has added, I cannot understand why management was not sympathetic in your case even if they could not require the girls to return your money. It seems like having you leave and not return was quite unreasonable since you were not being rude to anyone. If they would have explained their situation and apologized I think you might understand. Perhaps they could have even offered a free entrance on your next visit. That course of action seems far more reasonable assuming there were no confrontations between you and management or outright rudeness to the girls.
Chicafan You are absolutely right.
This is a case of bad management for which the owner of the joint is responsable.
At the risk of giving the impression I am an unpleasant customer two years ago
I had another less fortunate encounter with a girl at PHG.
A BBJ was not possible; the lady had been to the dentist that morning.
Of course this news hits you when you are already in the room and the match has started.
She was also wearing protection inside for her period.
I had been in the room with her about 15 minutes and decided I had enough of this.
It was not the kind of atmosphere that is inspiring to say the least.
We left the room I paid her the 50 and that was it.
I mentioned this to the manager as I was about to leave PHG.
She checked the story and gave me a ticket for a free entry.
I will not comment on girls that decide to work under these conditions.
Obviously as a monger you are regarded as a complete idiot by these ladies.
We all look for nice assets with a girl.
Finding a smart girl that does her job well is at least as important
I just received a reaction from PHG staff on this unhappy event.
PHG says they are sorry, it should not have happened.
I am no longer barred from their premises in fact they invited me to come back.
Apparently something went wrong for which they like to apologise.
It is not my habit to hold a grudge when people say they are sorry.
Any business where mistakes are made can only improve their standards if
they are informed about problems.
I wrote an email to PHG to explain my side of this unhappy event and mentioned
my surprise as this sort of thing is not what I am used to at PHG.
PHG deserves a compliment for the way they handled this matter now.
I just received a reaction from PHG staff on this unhappy event.
PHG says they are sorry, it should not have happened.
I am no longer barred from their premises in fact they invited me to come back.
A complimentary entrance?
Warsteiner
04-25-08, 19:58
I just received a reaction from PHG staff on this unhappy event.
PHG says they are sorry, it should not have happened.
I am no longer barred from their premises in fact they invited me to come back.
Apparently something went wrong for which they like to apologise.
It is not my habit to hold a grudge when people say they are sorry.
Any business where mistakes are made can only improve their standards if
they are informed about problems.
I wrote an email to PHG to explain my side of this unhappy event and mentioned
my surprise as this sort of thing is not what I am used to at PHG.
PHG deserves a compliment for the way they handled this matter now.
That's good news Smokey, as you say the Management should listen to both sides of the story. I'm sure there are men and women who try to get away with these types of things from time to time but it's good that PHG have apologised.
I've never had any problems in PHG and overall consider it to be the best club in NRW although I haven't been to VV yet :)
Basketcase
04-28-08, 23:21
I've also been with the lovely Melanie and I share your views. A great personality providing great service. She does not do CIM, and charges also EUR 50 for extensions (usually extensions are EUR 25 per half hour).Randy4711,
I was with Melanie twice this weekend and had a fantastic time both sessions at Planet Happy Garden. To me she was easily the best looking girl there. True she did not do CIM and I am a big fan of CIM finishes, but she made up for letting me finish another way on her (tit fuck) which in Hessen would have cost me €50 more and a a bit of explaining and sometimes moaning from the girl. I said €75 at paytime but she said no its only €50.
I saw her do lovey dovey a 4 hour session with a German gent and so missed a third session with her. I wonder how much he paid as she was out of bounds from 8:30pm to 12:30am and then for the last half hour hung out with him in the nachtcafe until closing time.
I did not want to spoil the scenario by asking for the last dance of the night and left them to it and sat back with some North Americans I met at Planet Happy Garden that same day. Hi guys if you are reading this. Remember me pining for Melanie as the three of us sat in the outdoor sauna lobby and also wondering what our other companion was doing with his large chested friend for so many hours?
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase
I've never had any problems in PHG and overall consider it to be the best club in NRW although I haven't been to VV yet :)
You are a lucky guy Warsteiner!
I must admit most of the time I am so horny I do not spend enough time to get acquainted and maybe decide too fast to move to more private quarters.
Good looks and some other assets are things that easily impress me.
An open minded and straight approach of the lady is at least as important to have a good time.
Ladies that have do not offer certain services like kissing and make that clear at the right moment are to be respected for that.
Lets see what tomorrow brings.
I have a visit planned in the afternoon.
I was welcomed at the door by friendly lady who accepted my business card.
Because Tanja of PHG had asked me to look for her at the next visit I was introduced to her a little later. Tanja was sorry this incident happened.
She was accompanied by the muscle guy who confirmed what hat happened.
It was a matter of a new manager that was not prepared for this kind of thing. She jumped to a conclusion. Unfortunately but mistakes can happen.
Apparently some of my girlfriends at PHG mentioned that I am OK.
Thanks Eva!
Travelerb69
05-02-08, 05:56
PHG- One of the great disappointments of the trip. I went there on a Saturday, which is supposed to be the best day regarding line-up. About may be 30 girls, I remember I would grade just one an 8/10, all the rest below that. Very strange atmosphere, I never felt confortable there. Girls were not pushy but I found them to be rather up-nosed. They are allowed to approach customers since I was by a few, but some doable ones not even looked at me. Also had the impression that girls prefer to go with regular customers. The main bar area does not help either, a very thin passage and not many places to seat. I recall I was at the secondary bar, the one near the sauna, I was on the lower level and this doable girl was hanging around in the upper level, obviously looking for a costumer, I waved at her to go downstairs and seat at the coach with me, at which she replied- no, too many steps, you come here… Of course I did not. I did not like its food either. I got there at about 4:00pm and by 6:00 the rate male/female was probably 4 men to 1 woman. I was horny, wanted to get laid, spent about 4 hours there but just could not, very strange. Did not like not even one girl, either for their looks or attitude. Just got angry and left the place at about 8:00, without fucking anybody, something very rare for me. Headed to Heavensgate, where I had a far better luck.
Since the place is one of the traditional ones in NRW and has good reports here, may be I was there at a bad day or something. I have no intent of returning there whatsoever, since I want to go to new clubs at least once to get to know them, repeat only the ones I really liked. No way it can compete with Golden Time even on a good day.
Next report Heavensgate.
Travellerb69 it works both ways.
If you show an attitude you will most likely not receive a friendly reponse.
Girls do not like to be commandered neither do you I presume.
PHG is a friendly relaxed place where you can meet all kinds of girls.
Of course the selection of girls varies.
You will see that in any of these sauna clubs.
Non of them is capable of offering large quantities of grade 8/9/10 girls all the time.
Try to appreciate not only looks but also a nice personality.
A former short lived fiancee once asked me to recommend her to a new guy.
I warned him to bring an alarm clock because he is most likely to fall asleep with her.
If you cannot see the fun of that, if you think your money buys you any thing you see you will go on being disappointed.
BTW I fell asleep after a good match not because the girl was boring just because I was very tired.
I woke up two hours later and yes I paid full time for it!
Travelerb69
05-02-08, 08:35
Hi Smokey,
Actually among the "classical" sauna clubs in NRW, PHG was the only club I did not like, just loved GT and LR, had a great time in both. I read your report on the issue you had with PHG and in the end they responded sensibly, at least they have a good management. As for line-up and girls' attitude, in my personal view PHG does not get even close to Golden Time, but of course each one has his own tastes and experiences.
Best regards, travelerb69.
PHG- One of the great disappointments of the trip. I went there on a Saturday, which is supposed to be the best day regarding line-up. About may be 30 girls, I remember I would grade just one an 8/10, all the rest below that. Very strange atmosphere, I never felt confortable there. Girls were not pushy but I found them to be rather up-nosed. They are allowed to approach customers since I was by a few, but some doable ones not even looked at me. Also had the impression that girls prefer to go with regular customers. The main bar area does not help either, a very thin passage and not many places to seat. I recall I was at the secondary bar, the one near the sauna, I was on the lower level and this doable girl was hanging around in the upper level, obviously looking for a costumer, I waved at her to go downstairs and seat at the coach with me, at which she replied- no, too many steps, you come here… Of course I did not. I did not like its food either. I got there at about 4:00pm and by 6:00 the rate male/female was probably 4 men to 1 woman. I was horny, wanted to get laid, spent about 4 hours there but just could not, very strange. Did not like not even one girl, either for their looks or attitude. Just got angry and left the place at about 8:00, without fucking anybody, something very rare for me. Headed to Heavensgate, where I had a far better luck.
Since the place is one of the traditional ones in NRW and has good reports here, may be I was there at a bad day or something. I have no intent of returning there whatsoever, since I want to go to new clubs at least once to get to know them, repeat only the ones I really liked. No way it can compete with Golden Time even on a good day.
Next report Heavensgate.
I was never really thrilled with the selection and of course, there were those two "denial of service" incidents I associate with this club. This is the only club I've had this happen to me.
The part about women waiting for regular customers is the problem. If you don't belong to this category, its very hard to make a connection at this club.
The contact area near the bar with the women sitting on bar stools doesn't help facilitate contact either.
Hey guys,
The selection of girls varies for all establishments.
What is more many girls move around the various clubs and often surface at another club after they left their former place.
I have not been to GT so I cannot comment on the offerings there.
To me it seems unlikely that PHG has less attractive ladies in general.
Two weeks ago I was blinded by a stunning brunette a straight 10 on my scale.
Not only a beautiful girl but also a very spontaneous person.
Girls are not waiting for regulars they are just waiting to make some euros.
Not being aggressive to score is positive to me. I am not fond of too much initiative from their part.
It takes all kinds, if you are happier elsewhere enjoy yourselves.
Girls are not waiting for regulars they are just waiting to make some euros.
This is what happened to me the first time I was denied service here:
I'd been there about an hour, had been looking around, picking out who I'd like to meet.
I had my eye on a stunning German blonde with a near perfect figure, waited to cross her path in the corridor near the front door and asked if she was free.
She said, "Nein, ich bin beschaeftigt" in a very abrupt manner.
I said to myself, okay, no problem.
For the next two hours I then saw her playing a video game, ignoring any and all males coming near her.
In walks a very large German dude (who had no doubt come out of a very large German car) who walks up to her, plants a kiss on her cheek and then they go off to the races.
I never saw her again all evening.
Yes, she could have made some money had she said yes to me. No, I was not ready to book several hours with her.
Some of these girls have a long established Stammkunde. They know that the tourist trade is not their bread and butter or Brot und Butter, if you will.
There are women who have to turn as many transactions as they can and there are those who have developed relationships and can pick and choose who they go with.
This is the only club I've been to where this has happened to me.
I am sorry to hear this happened to you.
Keep in mind the girls are free to turn down anybody for any reason.
Like any business success is built on returning customers. A smart girl knows that and treats her friends nicely.
Tourists are not likely to return. On the other hand not all foreigners are tourists. Most girls understand that.
This girl could have had an appointment with the German guy that turned up later.
Maybe he was late. Traffic is bad with roads under construction.
To cut it short. One incident, however unpleasant, is not a rule in any club.
To proof that: see my experience.
As a longtime fan of PHG, I am more surprised by the negative report of the food service. Lineups can certainly vary from week-to-week but I have almost never been disappointed by the food. Granted, the dynamics of the food service line are sometimes frustrating with an attitude of me first usually prevailing. The last time I was there in March a whole pig was roasting on an outside rotisserie.
Hooknose
This is what happened to me the first time I was denied service here:
She said, "Nein, ich bin beschaeftigt" in a very abrupt manner.
In walks a very large German dude (who had no doubt come out of a very large German car) who walks up to her, plants a kiss on her cheek and then they go off to the races.
I never saw her again all evening.
Yes, she could have made some money had she said yes to me. No, I was not ready to book several hours with her.
This is the only club I've been to where this has happened to me.
In any club you visit it is all about the money!
This girl apparently made a "business case" and you turned out to be not an attractive business case .... . So what??
Remember. It is exactly what you say, if a girl can make more money with a Stammkunde ofcourse she will do so!
Girls in Clubs do not work there to please us but to earn money.
Clearly this can and will happen in any other club you will visit. Believe me as long as they can make money the girls know that the tourist trade is also their bread and butter or Brot und Butter.
Regards,
Big30
In any club you visit it is all about the money!
This girl apparently made a "business case" and you turned out to be not an attractive business case .... . So what??
Remember. It is exactly what you say, if a girl can make more money with a Stammkunde ofcourse she will do so!
Girls in Clubs do not work there to please us but to earn money.
Clearly this can and will happen in any other club you will visit. Believe me as long as they can make money the girls know that the tourist trade is also their bread and butter or Brot und Butter.
Regards,
Big30
I agree: so what?
The only reason why I think this is worthwhile highlighting is that:
a) its never happened to me anywhere else (and I've been to probably forty different clubs in the past nine years, met several hundred women), and
b) it has happened to me twice at this club.
These two incidents set this club apart from all of the other clubs I've been to.
I do, however, take the philosophical point of view discussed on the Youppie forum: if she turned me down she probably didn't like me for one reason or another. I should, nonetheless, thank my lucky stars that she did so. If we had both gone into the room she would have delivered a lousy, even horrible session which she would then have been expected to be paid for.
In other words, she saved me money by turning me down.
The worst session I've ever had was with a German blonde, Katie, at Cocoon. Why? Because I'd ignored her warning signs when I went to talk to her at the bar there. She gave me one word answers, didn't want to have a conversation.
Nice woman to look at but absolutely Lustlos once we got to the room. She plunked on the bed, didn't want to take the initiative, started going on and on about how certain things were extras. The absolute worst, ever.
As the French say: C'est la vie.
This does not change my point of view of this club though. I am in no hurry to return to it. I am, however, not missing anything.
There are so many clubs and women to visit and to get to know and there just isn't enough time to do them all.
The only scenario I can imagine for my returning to this club would be that I go to visit GT, am disappointed with it and decide I want to visit another club.
But what are the chances I'd ever be disappointed at GT? Maybe when hell freezes over.
Nice to read that girls actually do men a favor by turning them down whatever the reason may be.
I appreciate an open honest approach by a girl.
Some do not engage in kissing let alone french kissing.
If these girls mention that they would like you to respect certain limitations before the start of the race all the better.
It is up to the interested party to accept any limitations or go elsewhere.
The fact that there is a financial part involved does not mean girls have to accept all potential prospects.
This may come as a surprise to some men but it is quite normal.
Short term engagements can only be succesfull if both parties feel good about it.
If we had both gone into the room she would have delivered a lousy, even horrible session which she would then have been expected to be paid for.
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Not exactly true...
Could be she knew this guy was going to show up on that day...but not know exactly what time. Could be he spends 5 to 6 hundred on just her alone...or more. If you would have met her on a day she didnt think this guy would show, she probably would have been busy the entire day with multiple guys and gave great service to each of them. You can't guess of the service unless you experience it firsthand or have good secondhand information.
A short term earnings of 50 euro's might have lost her the 600 euro booking....he shows up and she's "busy" he might go with another girl.
Not exactly true...
Could be she knew this guy was going to show up on that day...but not know exactly what time. Could be he spends 5 to 6 hundred on just her alone...or more. If you would have met her on a day she didnt think this guy would show, she probably would have been busy the entire day with multiple guys and gave great service to each of them. You can't guess of the service unless you experience it firsthand or have good secondhand information.
A short term earnings of 50 euro's might have lost her the 600 euro booking....he shows up and she's "busy" he might go with another girl.
... on how she responded to my question if she was free.
She was very abrupt, didn't smile, etc.. In other words, she sent off warning signs that she wasn't receptive.
I can respect that.
As I've said over and over again, this is the only club where I've had this happen to me out of probably forty clubs I've visited and over the time I've been visiting which is going on nine years. I've never been refused anywhere else but its happened to me twice on different occasions at this club.
... on how she responded to my question if she was free.
She was very abrupt, didn't smile, etc.. In other words, she sent off warning signs that she wasn't receptive.
I can respect that.
If you would really respect the warning signs of a lady that apparently made a choice not to make a room with you, then you would keep this info for yourself!
She made clear she did not want to go with you. Besides from earlier postings you explained that the girl already had an appointment with a regular guest that would pay her much more.
I really do not see your point! Ok you do not like PHG, but that also could effect the way girls in PHG make contact with you. Do not forget you had one a problem with a girl that just happened to work in PHG. She could have worked in any other club in Germany (now she probably does!) and you now blaim the club (what is not fair) and you blaim the girl (what is most certainly not fair because she is just doing her job!!!)
Anyway. Thursday May 1 I was In Happy because of the "Casino Royal" Party. Many guests and not a bad line-up of the girls in PHG. Food, ambiente, service were really top!
One of the best days I had in Happy and I had a lot of good days in Happy. I have been to parties in different clubs in NRW and the Hessen area. This was the best party I ever visited. Unfortunately I could not stay until the end.
Friday May 2, BHH was the next club in Germany waiting for Big30! E nu rua in Oase, cred e bine acolo!
Kind regards,
Big30
Interestingly, I've had both experiences at PHG.
A few trips ago a girl was with a guy for hours. It seemed she didn't want to leave his side as if she was his squeeze for the night. I caught her walking through the locker room and spoke, asking if she might possibly have some time for me. She politely said I will go with you but it has to be for an entire hour, as if that was the agreement she had with the guy. Sadly, I did not take her up on it because I did not know then how to interpret that and I had seen her my previous trip and with others planned I figured I would catch her later. Yeah, I should have gone especially because she was gorgeous and what's the big deal with an extra 25E commitment. I just did not want to get involved in an awkward or inflammatory situation in case she was really supposed to stay with this guy. FWIW, she was a pretty, fairly tall German girl with black hair a little longer than shoulders and a devine round ass. Damn!!! I have not seen her on any subsequent trips... this was probably 8 months ago and before that I had seen her at GT once also. Anyone recall this beauty?
OTOH, my last trip to PHG it was kind of late and I tried to get a blonde Romanian to go with me and she told me she was done for the night. I have a feeling that wasn't the case and she just didn't feel like going with me or whatever... No biggie in her case. Regardless of how they smile and flirt with other guys, if they don't see you as someone they want to work with it's not likely to be a good session anyway.
If you would really respect the warning signs of a lady that apparently made a choice not to make a room with you, then you would keep this info for yourself!
I don't get this logic at all! Let's drive this to its logical conclusion, and we will never make another post in this forum.
I don't get this logic at all! Let's drive this to its logical conclusion, and we will never make another post in this forum.
Explain first why you do not understand the logic! But before that, start reading and try to understand what is written!
Next you also explain why you arrive at such a "strange" conclusion not to post in this forum anymore???
Please give me the arguments for your statement! I promiss you I will try to understand them.
Kind regards,
Big30
Explain first why you do not understand the logic! But before that, start reading and try to understand what is written!
Next you also explain why you arrive at such an "idiot" conclusion not to post in this forum anymore???
Please give me the arguments for your statement! I promiss you I will try to understand them.
Kind regards,
Big30
I think Euro100's point is crystal clear. Indeed how could you not understand what he is talking about? If you, I or any other member of this forum, in the course of visiting this or any other club, come across a girl or girls who "give off warning signs" or other forms of negative behaviour, then it is very much in the interests of this forum to report this by posting it here. It's called Information Exchange. That's what this board is all about, oder?
In fact, one school of thought (not my own of course!) might hold: That only an "idiot" can't figure this out!
Ortos
Some of you, apparently two guys, have met girls at PHG that did not show interest to meet in a room.
This has nothing to do with PHG as the club does not interfere with the action going on.
Maybe these unfortunate guys think PHG management encourageous this kind of behaviour or especially invites girls that turn down men. That is another incorrect thought.
This discussion is leading nowhere and has no informative value at all.
Girls that turn down men in clubs for whatever reason can be found anywhere.
I have seen it happen elsewhere even in clubs where management has some control over the girls present.
In the end a girl has to agree to get involved. It may come as a suprise but the mere fact that she is paid does not change that in any way.
Any information about clubs and the girls that work there is valuable for other punters.
This continuing story is not.
Warsteiner
05-04-08, 13:34
I think there are some things that we (men) all need to know or remember:
- In PHG men can ring up and book a girl for a certain time i.e. I want this for a 2 hr session at 6pm on Friday. This may have been what happened when you were refused a session.
- Some women cannot have sex all day long. Lavinia who is now in Palace (I think) is one of these women. When I met her a couple of years ago in PHG she mentioned that she had also worked in World but preferred PHG as, "she didn't like a busy clit!" There was also another Rumanian girl I met in PHG who said that she couldn't have sex more that 3 times in one day. These women will have a long break between sessions unless they are feeling particularly horny.
- Some women prefer to go with older men as they think/know that younger men will be more demanding and they will have to work harder.
Other things to remember:
- This club normally has about 40-50 women present. If one girl doesn't want your money, move onto the next girl.
- There are plently of other clubs in the NRW area so you can always go to another club
And finally:
- Let's remember that this board is about reporting on the girls and get back to writing reports and sharing information rather than calling each other idiots and taking things the wrong way. Although the English being used in this discussion is very good it is obvious that some members are not native English speakers so read everything several times before jumping to the wrong conclusion and if someone really pisses you off just ignore them. There are more important things in life than arguaing with other members :)
On my first trip to PHG I reported that there were a limited amount of girls id consider going with, not 40 to 50 girls like reported....more like 20 to 25. So out of those girls, I really only found 6 worth doing...and one of those six basically told me she wouldn't go to the room with me....size issues with little breadman.
Has that happened in other clubs...yes. Its not an issue unless the number of girls that you want is so severely limited.
Should I post this now? I think the answer is yes. Should people post that Palace has sharks, that certain ethnic looks might keep you from getting into Goldentime etc, etc... All information is important to someone...do we get tired of hearing certain things?...answer is yes.
I really only found 6 worth doing...and one of those six basically told me she wouldn't go to the room with me....size issues with little breadman.
Has that happened in other clubs...yes. Its not an issue unless the number of girls that you want is so severely limited.
Should I post this now? I think the answer is yes. Should people post that Palace has sharks, that certain ethnic looks might keep you from getting into Goldentime etc, etc... All information is important to someone...do we get tired of hearing certain things?...answer is yes.
5 Girls available that meet your standards is not a bad score.
Nothing wrong with my appetite but this number is quite sufficient for me.
Information about girls that do not deliver, that try to cut corners, clubs that are not up to standard or refuse on etnic grounds is most welcome.
The fact a guy is too well endowed for some girls is personal and does not have relevant information for others.
And I had always thought that the women went with me because of my good looks and charming personality... :)
Girls that turn down men in clubs for whatever reason can be found anywhere.
But this is the point: I've never experienced it anywhere else.
Okay. I promise. Not another word. I just couldn't resist replying to this comment.
Hi Jackyo,
Now you are making sense!
I was wondering from what planet and I do not mean Garden Planet, you came from.
Of course women are interested in our financial condition.
Have you never wondered why most of them like to rest their head against your breast?
They do that because they like to be close to your wallet.
I like to have a little fun and try to let that go together with great sex.
For me PHG but that could well be any other club gives that.
Most girls will be happy to oblige but the game is often much nicer if she has a good sense of humour.
At least I still think they appreciate the jokes I tell.
The other thing is just like statistics:
You have statistics, bad statistics, and pure lies.
Once is pure chance, twice is bad chance three times and more is a pattern.
A very wise and educated man said that to me, my lawyer.
For the price of that lesson I could live a week in PHG and enjoy all the
facilities to the max.
Cheers!
Some guys live on their first impression, or last impression, of a club. I remember being at GT for two days in December and it was really weak with maybe 5-6 girls I thought were attractive. On the same trip I was counting 15+ girls at little PHG that were very good looking to me- that I would be thrilled to bed back in the US. I went to Palace one night that trips and didn't like the line up but I'm sure it changes and some nights are banner. I went to VV one night that trip and really didn't see a single girl I want to be with, but I know it deserves another visit. I have been only one time to Oase and found it awful yet I know it deserves another visit and can probably be very good. It just goes to show that not every night in every club is great and sometimes the girls have taken time off. I think we just have to keep moving around as hobbyists and take things as they come.
I agree we have to keep on trying. That is also the nicest part of this game.
Some of us are happy to stick to one club knowing that in the end the girls will move around.
Others do not take any chances and even visit two or more clubs a day.
I am a well trained dog that only knows a limited number of tricks.
That is why I try to find a place that suits me. I will stay unless urgent matters force me to move.
Chercherfemmes
05-06-08, 17:19
I'm just getting around to posting some reviews from my winter trip to Germany. Possibly out of date, but you never know.
During this trip (for work) I was only able to spend 2 days at FKKs (Planet Happy Garden and Oase) with short visits to Palace and K5 Relax (Prague). It was my first time at each of these places except for Palace.
I couldn't access the ISG from most of the hotels I stayed at. Yet I could access almost any kind of Internet porn. I suppose that words and opinions are more worrisome to the powers that be.
PHG and Oase were not impossible to find using Google maps, but they were still difficult. My rental car didn't do tenths of a km, so I had to guess many times. And the road signs mentioned in Google Maps are extremely difficult to see. I ended up going to these during the day rather than at night, so I was eventually able to read the signs. Usually on my second or third time past them. I doubt I ever would have found these places at night just using the maps.
PHG and Oase both have better facilities and SPs than Palace. Artemis in Berlin (not visited on this trip) also has great facilities. Palace is by far the easiest to get to from Frankfurt while Artemis is very easy to reach in Berlin. Palace has really gone downhill over the past few years imho. The shark percentage is up dramatically.
Slovakian girls rule.combined with my previous trip to Artemis in Berlin, I've had 5 great sessions with Slovakian SPs. All beautiful, passionate and GFE. Maybe I should just move to Bratislava.
I woke up on the Saturday morning refreshed, popped a Vitamin C to last me this day and the next, and drove out to Planet Happy Garden. As I mentioned in a previous post, it wasn't the easiest to find even during the day, but I managed. I was impressed with the facilities and the SPs milling about during the afternoon. There were a lot more SPs than clients when I arrived, and the ratio only evened out by 7pm when I left to drive down to Frankfurt. PHG has several main rooms and some outdoor space.
I had sessions with 3 women at PHG.
The first was with Samira, a very pretty 20 year old of mixed German and Sri Lankan background with B/C cups, long dark hair and sultry eyes. She approached me, and I figured she was a bit of a shark. However I don't mind this so much for my first session of a trip since I like to get the first SOG out of the way quickly. Like pretty much all of the SPs I met, Samira was a smoker. She also had some tatoos, one of which she told me was the name of her 35 year old boyfriend of 5 years. You can do the math and realize that he wasn't operating within the limits of the law during the 1st 3 years of that relationship. I also got the sense that she was currently working to support him. Samira was only into light kissing, and the session was the weakest I had at PHG. I believe she has moved on to another FKK in the area.
Next up was a very pretty German SP named Bianca. Bianca was 18 years old, dark hair, slim, around 5'2' with smallish b-cups and very tight. A perfect spinner. She was fully GFE and was the highlight of my entire trip. I spent an hour with her and had a great time. While many may argue that women's skills develop in their mid to late 20s, Bianca is a natural star. I would return to PHG just to see her again. I'm not even sure if she's a smoker, so another plus for Bianca. Interestingly Bianca asked me where my hotel was. She was disappointed to find out that I had to drive down to Frankfurt that night. I got the impression that off-premises extra-curricular activities would have been possible with Bianca. But I don't know this for sure. This is too bad since she could have cemented her position as my German ATF.
I had spent a good amount of time in the sauna between sessions trying to work out the effects of a long flight the day before, so it was getting dark when I chose my last companion at PHG. This was Elena (or Alayna), a bubbly 21 year old naturally blond Brazilian girl. Elena is around 5'4', A cups, and very slim. Another spinner. She was only into LFK, but that was fine with me. Otherwise she said she was fully GFE.
It was getting late when my session with Elena ended so I jumped in my rental car and headed down to Frankfurt. Since I arrived there kind of late, I didn't want to take a chance finding Oase in the dark considering the trouble I had finding PHG. So I saved that for Sunday. I'll post that in the Oase thread.
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Yesterday was a quiet day at PHG.
More girls than mongers. Happy, Thai girl, was anxious to get a key.
Sorry I was thinking of taking a sauna and looking at the BBQ first.
This was not a good idea according to Happy so we split.
As can happen anywhere a slow evening good to relax less good for sex.
I had sessions with 3 women at PHG.
The first was with Samira, a very pretty 20 year old of mixed German and Sri Lankan background with B/C cups, long dark hair and sultry eyes. I believe she has moved on to another FKK in the area.
Next up was a very pretty German SP named Bianca. Bianca was 18 years old, dark hair, slim, around 5'2' with smallish b-cups and very tight.
This was Elena (or Alayna), a bubbly 21 year old naturally blond Brazilian girl.
Samira does not work in Happy anymore (actually she worked also in Oase, YY, ...). Bianca also I did not spot in Happy anymore since March 2008.
Elena her correct name is Alini. She still works in Happy.
Regards,
Big30
I wondered why a large VV sign (Villa Vertigo) was clearly visible looking past the RH side of the outside sauna at PHG.
I suspected the new VV and PHG are of the same owner.
This is only partly true. The buildings from PHG belong to the owner of VV.
The owner of these buildings seems to have a business conflict with the current management of PHG.
Apparently the VV owner wishes tot take over the business of PHG and end his deal with current management.
The building adjacent to PHG were the sign is located is also owned by the same person.
This building serves as a fitness workout place for girls working at VV.
New developments to be expected soon including shared entrance at both clubs at a reduced rate.
Made a short, 3-day trip to PHG at the end of June. Not very busy on a Thursday and Friday but a bit more activity on Saturday. For the first time in many, many visits I was not that impressed with the selection. The majority were brunettes sporting big boobs, fake and otherwise. A few familiar faces but none of my favorites (Agatha, Natalia) that I had read were back on the scene. But the weather was good, the food plentiful and the facilities were excellent, and I was too lazy to go anywhere else.
Sampled:
Lazarina – Bulgaria – An old friend who provides a friendly, uninhibited experience. If you can get past the Jesus tattoo on her arm.
Laura – Germany – Only saw her the first night I was there. Pleasant but did not connect. She went topless on the walk back from the outside cabins; an unusual sight at PHG.
Tanja – Russia – She looked very familiar but I could not remember if I had been to a room with her. Friendly but very passive in the room.
Miriam – Poland – Petite blonde, but a little more stocky than svelte. I was sitting outside when she came by and immediately asked if I wanted to go to a room, which is a bad sign in my opinion. So despite the warning signs I signed up, I think because there was not a whole lot of availability at the time. In the room she tells me she charges €50 for the additional half hours and there is no DATY (due to an unfortunate biting incident in her past). I lost interest soon after and called it quits after 20 minutes.
Sammy – Germany – Not the tall, statuesque version from a couple of years ago but certainly able to match the passion of the older version. One of the better hours I have spent at PHG in recent memory.
Anna – Russian – Looked familiar but I would have remembered if I had been with her previously because she is dynamite. She is one of those that immediately attack you in the room, so when you can slow down the action a little bit it turns into a wild ride.
Kinga – Poland – I was familiar with the name as I had met her sister on my last visit. She is gorgeous and friendly but we did not connect. But at least now I can say I have done sisters.
Julie – Germany – Tall with medium length blonde hair. I met her on my last hour of my last day. For once I did not hesitate to approach her because as I sealed the deal another polar bear was waiting in line right behind me. She is a fresh face that has a bounce in her step. Friendly and responsive, an excellent end to the evening.
Hook
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Made a short, 3-day trip to PHG at the end of June. Not very busy on a Thursday and Friday but a bit more activity on Saturday.
Anna – Russian – Looked familiar but I would have remembered if I had been with her previously because she is dynamite. She is one of those that immediately attack you in the room, so when you can slow down the action a little bit it turns into a wild ride.
Anna started working in PHG end 2005. In 2007 she was not that often in PHG but a few weeks ago she returned in Happy. So not strange she looked familiar.
Regards,
Big30
The Russian girls, Tanya and Anna, can you describe them? I sessioned a few years back with this great redhead Russian sporting a bird tattoo on her shoulder. While others I know thought she was okay, we really connected and had a blast...it'd be great to see her back in the game.
Tanja has medium length blondish hair and Anna has almost black hair.
Neither has a large tattoo on the shoulder.
Hook
Thanks Hook.
But damn, I guess my little Russian redhead is gone for good. Guess I'll just have to try them all now.
Guess I'll just have to try them all now.
I can't think of a beter way to pass the time at PHG!
Thanks Hook.
But damn, I guess my little Russian redhead is gone for good. Guess I'll just have to try them all now.Hey Woofiee,
You may be in luck after all. I think your Russian Redhead is at Villa Vertigo now. I saw her there and she was mentioned in reports last week She has incredible eyes.
Woohoo!
They never really retire, do they?
Looks like VV is worth investigating. I'll check the threads.
Thanks!
Xavier Yves
07-10-08, 20:47
seems PHG management is transferring their girls to VV. These two clubs are one stone away anyway. So I got a chance to visit either of them, which one do you guys recommend?
Does VV and PHG have the similar pricing system as GT and LR? Pay 50 EUR to one club and pay only 30 to another one if the customer do the same day.
seems PHG management is transferring their girls to VV. These two clubs are one stone away anyway. So I got a chance to visit either of them, which one do you guys recommend?
Does VV and PHG have the similar pricing system as GT and LR? Pay 50 EUR to one club and pay only 30 to another one if the customer do the same day.
PHG management is not transferring girls! Girls transfer them selves or are being transferred by their "managers".
Tuesday I was in PHG and Wednesday I was in the Villa. Boths visits pleased me. I can recommend both, PHG has a more stable line-up and there you will find usually a little more girls than in the Villa depending on the day you visit the clubs.
The Villa is more exclusive, better ambiente and food. But PHG for me is always OK, no mather what day of the week I come there, I feel always relaxed and Happy there.
Both clubs do not share the same management although Marcus who has invested a lot in VV is still the owner of PHG, but he does not run Happy anymore.
So if you visit on one day both VV and PHG you pay 2 times 50 Euro, at least for the time being!
Regards,
Big30
Went to PHG on a Thursday. Line up seemed slim. Some girls and clients told me some girls were on vacation. I saw some familiar faces including Loreadana. Man does this girl know how to walk like a true professional Hooker. Her ass jiggles from side to side as she walks like a true pro: "Who wants to fuck me now"
Had sessions with Monique: Romanian. True GFE. Beautiful firm tits. Doggy, Cowgirl, Mish.
Standout sessions with:
Nancy, Morrocan, Medium Firm tits. Nice long torso and ass. Man she really gets into sex. She looks you firmly in the eyes as you fuck her doggy, Mish, porn star style. Definitely repeat material.
Eva, Porn style looks with porn style performance. Tall, slender, dark tan, Huge tits, Silicone. Half Yugoslavian, half Romanian. Pierced Clam, Nice nipples, several Tattoos. Doggy twice, Mish, Cowgirl. She had to work for her money with a good long porn quality fuck session. Finally exploded in her. Again, repeatable.
Thanks Hamboner, Good to read that Eva is back again.
I missed her a while thought she had moved to Villa Vertigo.
She has an extraordinairy body, slim with huge tits.
She is a very nice person too. I will give her a blast soon.
Basketcase
08-01-08, 21:05
Hey Woofiee,
You may be in luck after all. I think your Russian Redhead is at Villa Vertigo now. I saw her there and she was mentioned in reports last week She has incredible eyes.
Guten Tag Herr Woofiee,
Ich sah sie auch in der Villa Vertigo.
Sie schaut sehr gut zu ficken und lecken.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Londonbasketcase
Hello Londonbasketcase,
I am a loyal guy and have not visited Villa Vertigo although I missed Eva.
I left quite a lot of footsteps at PHG. I enjoy the atmosphere there and have come to appreciate management as fair and smart if ever a problem arises.
Being a steady customer has its advantages!
Thanks Hamboner, Good to read that Eva is back again.
I missed her a while thought she had moved to Villa Vertigo.
Eva actually never left Happy! Last Friday and Wednesday she was in Happy. She was never in the Villa.
July 30 there were about 45 girls in Happy and it was very good being there then, last Friday "war nicht so viel loss" in Happy.
Regards,
Big30
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the good info.
I'm at near Netherland & Germany border.
I've been to one of the famouse Frankfrut FKK.
I'm thinking about visiting PHG soon.
I did ok at Frankfurt, but sill little bit nervouse especaill not speaking any German and being an Asian.
Will I be OK at PHG?
Also, DFK is important to me. How's kissing at PHG?
My preference is freindliness, pretty slim Europeans, kissing available.
Any other good suggestions?
I'm also considering Club Ying Yang.
Any other sugges
Dreamer,
Stop dreaming and visit PHG or Happy Pussy Garden as it was called more correctly.
Enjoy the relaxed atmosphere. Take your time to get to know the girls.
Many are very friendly and not only business oriented.
It takes only 50 euro to find out what kind of performance they give.
Just ask them before you invite the girl to a room if kissing or French kissing
is available with the girl you have in mind.
The same goes for any other facilities you would like to enjoy.
Ask before you decide to go to the room with her.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the good info.
I'm at near Netherland & Germany border.
I've been to one of the famouse Frankfrut FKK.
I'm thinking about visiting PHG soon.
I did ok at Frankfurt, but sill little bit nervouse especaill not speaking any German and being an Asian.
Will I be OK at PHG?
Also, DFK is important to me. How's kissing at PHG?
My preference is freindliness, pretty slim Europeans, kissing available.
Any other good suggestions?
I'm also considering Club Ying Yang.
Any other sugges
I've visited probably close to 40 clubs (FKK and PT) and this is the only one I've been refused service at. It happened on two different occasions.
Will I return sometime? Maybe but its not on my list of must visit clubs and that won't happen any time soon.
If you read the Goldentime thread, GT is the only one with an established pattern of turning folks away at the door.
What does this leave you amongst the Grenzgebietclubs? Villa Vertigo and the former Parksauna Wildenrath (now named Pegasus).
Jackyo,
Your message is quite clear and has been repeated often enough for all who are interested in visiting PHG and GT.
Thank you!
Jackyo,
Your message is quite clear and has been repeated often enough for all who are interested in visiting PHG and GT.
Thank you!
.. than it is for those of you who follow these threads regularly.
I've visited probably close to 40 clubs (FKK and PT) and this is the only one I've been refused service at. It happened on two different occasions.
Will I return sometime? Maybe but its not on my list of must visit clubs and that won't happen any time soon.
If you read the Goldentime thread, GT is the only one with an established pattern of turning folks away at the door.
What does this leave you amongst the Grenzgebietclubs? Villa Vertigo and the former Parksauna Wildenrath (now named Pegasus).So, why were you refused? Refused at the door? or refused by some of the girls? Or refused certain service you wanted? Can you explain little more?
Thanks
So, why were you refused? Refused at the door? or refused by some of the girls? Or refused certain service you wanted? Can you explain little more?
Thanks
I was refused service by two girls on two separate occasion. Not refused certain services. Just refused service. Not refused entry at the door.
Some of the regulars on this forum have heard me describe this before. I'll not bore them (or you) with details.
You can look it up if you want to:
491987
738651
738455
I was refused service by two girls on two separate occasion. Not refused certain services. Just refused service. Not refused entry at the door.
Some of the regulars on this forum have heard me describe this before. I'll not bore them (or you) with details.
You can look it up if you want to:
491987
738651
738455
When i read this post,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491987&postcount=187
I must conclude your experience in PHG is let us say outdated. The message was posted 08-03-06 at 07:12 !!
As a weekly visitor of PHG for almost 3 years I have never experienced what you describe. I have no idee why all the time you like to mention this "old incident" which is now none relevant for PHG visitors.
Regards,
Big30
Ekliges Lauern
08-28-08, 00:34
And I had always thought that the women went with me because of my good looks and charming personality... :)
But this is the point: I've never experienced it anywhere else.
Okay. I promise. Not another word. I just couldn't resist replying to this comment.
You forgot to link to this post from 5-4-08. I'm sure the newbies are interested in this as well.
Even if his experience of some clubs may be old, at least Jackyo is taking time answering questions from new members of this forum. If you disagree or are bothered by it, I would suggest either ignore it or give some of your own experience that is different from Jackyo's as a counter measure.
Even if I sometimes have different view on some of the clubs and have different experiences, Jackyo is the one giving prompt and well intended answers to most of new guys that post here (most of it decent to good advice) and I am sure it is appreciated by them even it annoys some of the old timers. I for one am usually to damn lazy to answer many of them so I am glad he is taking the time. He is reciting his own experience and even if it is old or different from mine, it is at least something.
When i read this post,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491987&postcount=187
I must conclude your experience in PHG is let us say outdated. The message was posted 08-03-06 at 07:12 !!
As a weekly visitor of PHG for almost 3 years I have never experienced what you describe. I have no idee why all the time you like to mention this "old incident" which is now none relevant for PHG visitors.
Regards,
Big30
.. and you can be sure I won't be going anytime soon.
Do you know the band "Great White"? They are best known for their song "Once bitten twice shy". Why would I want to go back to repeat a bad experience? I'm not into masochism.
I've been around a lot and this is the only club its happened to me and it happened twice. If it happened to me regularly at other clubs, I'd think it were me but its not me, its this club. I've never been refused service at GT, World, etc. I can make a list which is quite long. I have visited clubs for almost a decade.
This forum is about posting opinions and different points of view. Please post a different point of view if you have one. Let the reader then decide.
What would eliminate this lingering bad taste in my mouth? Hmm.. if the next time I go two women throw themselves at me and ask me to f_ them for nothing. That would do it. Then I'd only write positive reports about this club.
Ekliges Lauern
08-28-08, 13:28
Even if his experience of some clubs may be old, at least Jackyo is taking time answering questions from new members of this forum. If you disagree or are bothered by it, I would suggest either ignore it or give some of your own experience that is different from Jackyo's as a counter measure.
Hehe, I never thought I would hear the "think of the children (newbies)" defense on ISG for obnoxious posting behaviour. If my pointing out that his posts are largely content free and repetitious bothers you, feel free to ignore me.
The exchange could be boiled down to:
Newbie: Should I go to PHG?
Jackyo: I'm carrying a grudge, you shouldn't go there.
Oldbie: Hey Jackyo, give it a rest. You've already gone over this endlessly.
Jackyo: But I'm doing it for the children (newbies). Let me post links to the original reports (two years old, very light on details, include such gems as recommedning PSW as a better alternative, I hope the newbies don't take that advise)
Radler: Here's another Jackyo post where he promised to stop rehashing this over and over.
I am concerned that the children (newbies) are taking what he says at face and getting a bum steer. For example, he recently stated that GT was the only club known to exclude based on race. This is simply not true. F39 does as well. I've discussed this personally with the door staff. I would hate to think of a newbie African man visited F39 based on Jackyo's advise.
Hmm. Getting little confused.
So, my experience was once at one of the big Frankfurt FKK. I think it was OASSE or something. Anyway, I was little bit nervous, but overall had good time.
I guess it being in a big internatinal city and famouse FKK, so many girls spoke ok English, and they seem friendly to Asians. There were two Asians including me at the time.
Now I'm near the Netherland / Germany border area. I did some research and I was considering Bernds or Babylon, but looks like they are small clubs, so I was little bit intimidated.
So, I did some more research, and though that PHG or Yin Yang sound be more appropriate for a newbie Asian guy like me.
I have a car so I'm willing to drive a hour or so.
My preference is slim white girls with pretty face, friendliness, and kissing
Any good suggestions?
Warsteiner
08-28-08, 16:08
Hehe, I never thought I would hear the "think of the children (newbies)" defense on ISG for obnoxious posting behaviour. If my pointing out that his posts are largely content free and repetitious bothers you, feel free to ignore me.
The exchange could be boiled down to:
Newbie: Should I go to PHG?
Jackyo: I'm carrying a grudge, you shouldn't go there.
Oldbie: Hey Jackyo, give it a rest. You've already gone over this endlessly.
Jackyo: But I'm doing it for the children (newbies). Let me post links to the original reports (two years old, very light on details, include such gems as recommedning PSW as a better alternative, I hope the newbies don't take that advise)
Radler: Here's another Jackyo post where he promised to stop rehashing this over and over.
I am concerned that the children (newbies) are taking what he says at face and getting a bum steer. For example, he recently stated that GT was the only club known to exclude based on race. This is simply not true. F39 does as well. I've discussed this personally with the door staff. I would hate to think of a newbie African man visited F39 based on Jackyo's advise.
I think this shows that people really need to make up their own minds about the clubs and not take the reports here as gospel. There are so many intangibles such as the attraction between the girl/man, the day you visit a club, etc. that it really is a case of YMMV.
It's difficult if you are only in Germany for a few days and you want to make the most of your visit but in NRW the clubs are so close to each other that you should always have a backup plan if you are refused entry or even if you have had a couple of crappy sessions you can always leave and go to another club for the rest of the night.
I suggested you put me on your ignore list but apparently you haven't done so.
I get on your nerves. You get on my nerves too.
So what else is new?
Not everyone has read my opinions on this club and if anybody asks me I will reply in the same way.
I think this shows that people really need to make up their own minds about the clubs and not take the reports here as gospel. There are so many intangibles such as the attraction between the girl/man, the day you visit a club, etc. that it really is a case of YMMV.
It's difficult if you are only in Germany for a few days and you want to make the most of your visit but in NRW the clubs are so close to each other that you should always have a backup plan if you are refused entry or even if you have had a couple of crappy sessions you can always leave and go to another club for the rest of the night.
.. a grain of salt.
Don't take my word for it. Ask around.
And then go find out for yourself.
If you would prefer, from now on there should be a footnote disclaimer to accompany posts with personal opinions, something in the nature of...
"The views expressed in this post are the views of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views or policies of the ISG nor those of the clubs reported on. The author makes no representation concerning and does not guarantee the source, originality, accuracy, completeness or reliability of any statement, information, data, finding, interpretation, advice, opinion, or view presented."
Ekliges Lauern
08-28-08, 18:41
Not everyone has read my opinions on this club and if anybody asks me I will reply in the same way.
I don't remember anyone asking your opinion of this club. Maybe I'm mistaken on this, but if memory serves, the question was "Will I be OK at this club?". You answered the question you wanted to answer, not the question that was asked. You might want to consider a career in politics.
Well, were it just me that was tired of your constant repetition, the ignore list would be fine solution. But, if you notice, there were others that commented on your repetition as well. So don't just think it is the Radler that finds this annoying.
Most people on this forum occassionally provide new information (reviews). They don't just repeat themselves over and over and over again.
First of all, does the club or any other club not welcom or refuse based on race? for example Asians or Blacks?
If that's not the case, I guess it's worth a visit and find out myself.
by the way, Villa Vertigo that Jackyo suggested actually even has Japanese page so obviouly they welcom Asians at least Japanese.
ok I'm leanig toward Villa Vertigo.
I'll read more Villa Vertigo thread.
Thanks guys.
I don't remember anyone asking your opinion of this club. Maybe I'm mistaken on this, but if memory serves, the question was "Will I be OK at this club?". You answered the question you wanted to answer, not the question that was asked. You might want to consider a career in politics.
Well, were it just me that was tired of your constant repetition, the ignore list would be fine solution. But, if you notice, there were others that commented on your repetition as well. So don't just think it is the Radler that finds this annoying.
Most people on this forum occassionally provide new information (reviews). They don't just repeat themselves over and over and over again.
...in the original post that started this unproductive flame war, Dreamer did ask for all of our opinions and specifically, as an Asian, if he will be OK at PHG:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the good info.
I'm at near Netherland & Germany border.
I've been to one of the famouse Frankfrut FKK.
I'm thinking about visiting PHG soon.
I did ok at Frankfurt, but sill little bit nervouse especaill not speaking any German and being an Asian.
Will I be OK at PHG?
So, Jackyo's specific experience at PHG is very relevant to this poster.
Jackyo, in all his best intentions was helping out a new visitor to these parts from his wealth of experience. What's the harm in that, even if some of us have read his opinion many times. Dreamer hasn't. As long as a poster doesn't post an opinion that is offensive, racist or otherwise demeaning, what's the harm caused?
In any case, this is supposed to be fun. It's great to be able to get a variety of opinions and base my own future journeys on those that have relevant information and come from posters whose opinion I've come to value, And, I take it all with a grain of salt since this isn't an encyclopedia here and the data is constantly changing. And besides, we're all humans here, with our own foibles and see things through our very own colored glasses.
If you've heard it already, move on to the next post. Let's keep the personal attacks away from here as they don't serve any constructive purpose other than to clutter up the board with non-informational posts.
Thankfully, in the 6 or 7 years that I've followed the FKK board, it's been pretty devoid of flame wars, which is remarkable compared to some of the other ISG threads. That's what's made this board really valuable and both Jackyo and Radler have been good contributors. Let's move on...
Hmm. Getting little confused.
So, my experience was once at one of the big Frankfurt FKK. I think it was OASSE or something. Anyway, I was little bit nervous, but overall had good time.
I guess it being in a big internatinal city and famouse FKK, so many girls spoke ok English, and they seem friendly to Asians. There were two Asians including me at the time.
Now I'm near the Netherland / Germany border area. I did some research and I was considering Bernds or Babylon, but looks like they are small clubs, so I was little bit intimidated.
So, I did some more research, and though that PHG or Yin Yang sound be more appropriate for a newbie Asian guy like me.
I have a car so I'm willing to drive a hour or so.
My preference is slim white girls with pretty face, friendliness, and kissing
Any good suggestions?
... there are many good clubs. As you may have read here some of the clubs may not be friendly to Asians as well as other non- German looking guests and there have been issues in the past. There's no clear policy though.
I have never heard of Yin Yang, Villa Vertigo, or Living Room having a selective door policy and they are all well less than an hour's drive. Bernd's, Samya and Babylon would certainly welcome you, but be aware that Bernd's (past Bonn) and Samya (in Cologne) are a further drive away. A smaller club is not neccesarily less inviting- you may actually feel more welcome there than at a larger club.
Njoy and let us know how it goes.
Although some clubs do seem to have a policy to refuse entrance to certain persons based on etnic grounds most clubs will not do so.
The club provides food, drinks and a pleasant atmosphere were men can meet girls and do whatever they agree to in rooms or cabins.
Girls are working for their own account and are in no way under management control.
If you are tired and decide to take a nap for an hour with a girl next to you it still means you have to pay for her time.
The girls can expect some kind of support or management decision in case a customer refuses to pay for her services.
Going to a room means the man has to pay for the services the girl offers.
Girls who cheat or treat visitors badly are recognised quite fast and will not be welcome at the club where they turned these tricks.
This game is a fun game where men that treat girls nicely will be rewarded.
They will have a good time.
Being paid for their services does not mean girls have to agree to meet any man.
Basketcase
08-28-08, 22:21
londonbasketcase's tips for dreamer:
so, my experience was once at one of the big frankfurt fkk. i think it was oasse or something. anyway, i was little bit nervous, but overall had good time.
good lad, you made it to oase - my spiritual home in germany.
i guess it being in a big internatinal city and famouse fkk, so many girls spoke ok english, and they seem friendly to asians. there were two asians including me at the time.
i have seen many asians in oase - turks, chinese, singaporeans, arabs, japanese, hong kong, indians, pakistanis, iranians, iraqis, etc... then there are the guys as well.
now i'm near the netherland / germany border area. i did some research and i was considering bernds or babylon, but looks like they are small clubs, so i was little bit intimidated.
are you in luxembourg if you are neither in nederlands or duitsland? man, there is nothing to do in luxembourg. i have been there many times and got stuck in town after 9pm and had to get a taxi to my hotel as the buses shut down just after 8pm. the luxembourgeoise love their cars and they champagne for some reason according to the locals that i deal with.
i have not been to bernds or babylon so i cannot comment. i tend to go to the large transactional faceless clubs that get critiqued by the oldbies here.
if you do go to bernds and babylon then please write a trip report for us here.
if you can then go to golden time in brueggen. man, that is my most facourite place in nord rhein westfalen. i generally have excellent times there especially when ijsberen find its me and take me under their wing and go touring the club with me.
so, i did some more research, and though that phg or yin yang sound be more appropriate for a newbie asian guy like me.
kein problem dude. dusseldorf has one of the largest ethnic japanese population in europe due to all the large japanese corporates based there for the last 30-40 years. you can get some really good sushi in town. i hear colleagues from the isles that i come from go there for the sushi. you actually now find the ethnic japanese are native germans now.
due to this fact and dusseldorf being an international city you'll find asians working in just about all the clubs. you'll also find asians as punters too.
i am not sure if you are in nederlands or in deutschland but nederlands and especially amsterdam is known to have the largest ethnic chinese population in europe - more than london and their bbcs (british born chinese). also britain has many sub continent asians from pakistan, india and bangladesh. you also find these people in germany too and then also in the clubs.
so for yin yang in the roermond/melick area you will also get some asians there. they have an open door policy and speak english - this is one great thing that i like about the nederlands.
then germany has about three million ethnic asians in the form of turkei people. i gorged on doner kebaps in berlin recently at about €2.50 a throw and bratwurst in brot at €1 a throw and currywurst with frites at €3.50 a throw. you will also find them in the clubs too although some have an exclusion policy for these asians.
i have a car so i'm willing to drive a hour or so.
cool. make sure you keep to the speed limits in nederland. one hour from luxembourg gets you some distance in duitsland. maybe saarland, trier for the roman and frankish remains.
if you can try to get to osnabruck (where the army of the rhine is currently based before being shipped home as they are needed for homeland security and operations in the middle east) you can visit the remains of the battle of the teutobourg wald where the roman lawyer background governor verus lost three good roman legions, auxiliaries and camp followers in an ambush in 9 ad.
my preference is slim white girls with pretty face, friendliness, and kissing. any good suggestions?
i think you will find many of these girls in the clubs. they'll be approaching you quick smart when they find that you are new blood with a brand new load that has to be blown. the first one is usually quick so the girls like that as its quicker money for them. just have a look and you will find many slim white girls with pretty faces.
chaos,
londonbasketcase
So, I did some more research, and though that PHG or Yin Yang sound be more appropriate for a newbie Asian guy like me.
I have a car so I'm willing to drive a hour or so.
My preference is slim white girls with pretty face, friendliness, and kissing
Any good suggestions?
Hi Dreamer
Just my two cents, concerning PHG: I've been numerous times at PHG and was always happy with service (except one or two times).
I've often seen Asians guests there, although Germans or Dutch are in majority, of course.
Never been to YinYang.
It has been stated that these clubs have refused men on etnic grounds.
Of course this can be an unpleasant and humiliating experience for those involved.
PHG has been mentioned in this respect without reason.
I visit PHG 3-5 times a month and see all colours of the rainbow there amongst visitors.
I have never experienced persons being refused at the door while being in the club or at the moment I was about to be admitted.
The fact that a particular girl in a club decides not to accept an invitation from a visitor like Jackyo suggested is her good right.
An attitude that gives the impression girls are for hire without their consent may well be an explanation for that kind of reaction.
Hi Dreamer
Just my two cents, concerning PHG: I've been numerous times at PHG and was always happy with service (except one or two times).
I've often seen Asians guests there, although Germans or Dutch are in majority, of course. And fwiw I've seen plenty of Asian men at GT. I wouldn't go to Yin Yang without stopping by GT. I don't feel like they are going to turn anyone away for being Asian.
Ekliges Lauern
08-29-08, 21:07
And fwiw I've seen plenty of Asian men at GT. I wouldn't go to Yin Yang without stopping by GT. I don't feel like they are going to turn anyone away for being Asian.
Depends which kind of Asian. East Asian, I would say no problem. If you are southern Asian (Indian or middle-Eastern), you should probably have a backup plan if going to GT.
First of all, does the club or any other club not welcom or refuse based on race? for example Asians or Blacks?
If that's not the case, I guess it's worth a visit and find out myself.
by the way, Villa Vertigo that Jackyo suggested actually even has Japanese page so obviouly they welcom Asians at least Japanese.
ok I'm leanig toward Villa Vertigo.
I'll read more Villa Vertigo thread.
Thanks guys.
So I don't repeat myself, here is a previous post. Yes, its dated.
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Jimmy Boy 99
09-07-08, 03:18
Nice to be there in summer when you can hang around the pool, although they should put in a Jacuzzi somewhere. As always, good free beer selection and they had a good barbeque. Nice selection of girls, maybe 25 in all, 8-10 doable (for me). First girl was Katya, a pretty Ukranian brunette. Very sweet GFE, spent an hour with her (Euro 75). Next was Alini, a Brazilian blonde; then Stella, a tall, beautiful Polish blonde, and then Alexandra, a pretty Rumanian brunette. All very nice, GFE sessions. Although not as good as GT (no Jacuzzi, small grounds, no WI-FI, half as many girls), it is still quite nice and worth going at least once during a visit to the NWR.
As always, good free beer selection and they had a good barbeque. This weekend Saturday I will visit PHG again because there will be a party: Oktoberfest. And for sure I will drink some beer.
Most of the time there are 40-55girls. You want names of girls who are a lot of times present: Adella, Aneta, Anna, Alini, Anja, Denise (special for me), Eva, Helena, Isa, Jane/Jenna (maybe the best one), Kaya, Kim, Kyra (the nicest one), Larissa, Laura, Lazarina, Loredana, Maria, Melanie, Michelle, Moni, Nathalie, Nina, Nora, Sabrina, Samantha, Sona, Veronika, Yula.
Greetings Willem
GabrielPontello
09-22-08, 10:17
after 2 years, I went to PHG hoping to find Loredana, a blond rumanian girl I was with time ago: a sure pick.
I heard from the other girls she's still there but unfortunately not in the last week...
The only girl I recognized from my last visit was Aline, a so so brazilian girl.
As usual fro the BR girls, she is very responsive and professional and we spent a nice 1/2 hour.
The choice was not great, I have to say, and then I tried a romanian girl (can't remember the name...) ABSOLUTELY TO AVOID.
She's fake blond, with B/C cups boobs, 1,60 tall.
She's a typical waste of time and money: doesn't kiss, tells to allow daty but she doesn't and so on.
After a so bad pick, I chatted a while with Ana, a tall, gourgeous tanned rumanian, with unbelievable green/blu eyes.
Finally we went to the room and it was a fine pick because she is friendly and warm.
At the end, nothing to write about home but an average day in PHG.
The best note is the excellent barbecue the place offered.
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