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This is not one of the best FKK clubs but sometimes has good merchandise
The good thing about this club is the low cost only 25eu per regular session.
Reports that some like it and some dont So its up to everyones personal tastes
Planet Happy Garden
Butzenstasse 41
47918 T?nisvorst/Oedt
Tel 02152-519103
Hours
Monday - Saturday 11am - 1am
Sunday 3pm - 1am
50Eu entry
25eu per session 30 minutes w/condom oral
50eu per session 30 minutes w/o condom oral
Drink included
Swimming pool, 2 saunas, yard, tanning booth, bar, beer, lunch and dinner buffet, sandwiches sometimes in the beer fridge.
Directions
This club is situated close to the dutch boarder north west of Dusseldorff and is difficult to get to by public transport and quite hard to find by car (it you are a tourist)
Take the A44 Krefeld - Monchengladbach, exit 23 (Munchheide), after leaving the autobahn turn left and drive straight on for about 10 km. You should see the sign with the direction "Oedt" to the left, Drive straight on at the next big junction until just before the second junction (end of this road), there's the entrance to Happy Garden.
Hi Wiz,
they no longer have a swimming pool. It's now turned into a very nice "Bar" with lots of sofas. Still you'll see no sofa action at all in this club.
The girls are all very good looking, but not all of them kiss. Most give a good service, but there are also a few "Don't dos" around. If in doubt, try to get into a conversation with some local regulars and get some recommendation.
Even though I live near that club and visit it once in a while, it's difficult to keep track of the girls there (20 - 25 are working during a normal shift there - altogether they have around 50 - 60 girls), also because there are always lots of girls coming and going. I either go there with a few friends to put our knowledge together or a talk to my favourite girls and always get good recommendations.
cu
kaleu
Hi guys!
After more then a year of using the info on the WSG forum I decided to give something back, thats why I'll write some experiances I had (in a few countries), starting with "Happy Garden".
First of all let me start by saying that finding the club is a b|tch! I'm not from germany and although Wizards info was quiet good I still wasted over an hour to find the place! And to tell you the truth I would probably have a hard time to get back there again. Anyhow, luckly for me just when I was about to give up I found the club. The first thing that hit me was the number and quality of cars standing on the parking infront of Happy Garden. All thoes porshes and mercedeses made me a little worried (that i wouldnt fit amongst the wealthy german ppl ;) But I decided to still give it a try, I walked to the door and rang the bell. After some time a nice looking woman opened the door for me. She started to look for a bathrobe that would fit me (Im VERY tall) and also gave me a towel, a locker key and sandals to wear around the house. I told her that it was my first time here and she explaind everything to me (prices, things you were expected to do and things NOT to do - very much the same things that are on Kaleus web page) she was very friendly and spoke okey english. I paid her the 50 euros entry fee and went to look for my locker ... after I changed into the bathrobe I took a shower, I noticed that there were quiet a lot of people in the house. The good thing was that the other "customers" didn't really care about eachother, they didnt look at me and I didnt look at them and that was fine. Nobody cared if I was big and slim or small and fat, etc. So, after the shower I went to the bar and got myself a drink (all the drinks and food is free) and decided to take a look at the ladies. I could not beleive my eyes!!! I thought I died and went to heaven, the amount of girls and the quality was much greater then in any other place that I ever saw (mind you this was my first time checking out the action in Germany) The girls were beautifull I had a hard time controling my self not to just run up to the first one and get a room ;) After an hour of checking out how the guys and girls interact I was ready for my first choice. I noded at one tall, blonde, good lookin girl. She came over and introduced herself as Jana from Russia. She spoke enough English for us to have a basic conversation. She was VERY friendly and after some time suggested that we get a room (who was I to say "no" ?) she went and got a key to the room while I waited (it didnt take more then a minute) We got comfortable in the room. She asked if I wanted the 1/2h for 25 euro or the one for 50E (with BBBJ) and told me that if I wanted to cum in her mouth that it would be +25. I wasn't in the mood for that ... so I just went with the 50 euro option. She was very energetic, did a great job on the bj also licked my balls, she also kissed me very pasionetly, also was very happy to do all the positions I wanted, it didnt take much for me to feel the preasue building up so I asked her if I can cum on her breast and she was more then willing. So when I looked at my watch, after we cleaned up, we had been there for 25 minutes. After some chit-chat we went to my locker and I gave her her well diserved 50 euros. I took a shower after giving her a goodbye kiss. When I was getting out of the shower I saw that the guys were busy with dinner (nothing fancy just some spagetti) I later learned that during the opening hours food is served 3 times, at 11, 19 and 22 ... after eating I decieded to have girl number 2. My choice was a very atractive polish girl named Monika. Mainly because she was very good looking and also bacause I am polish as well so we kinda hit it off ... Again I was faced with the dilema of chossing between 25 and 50 euros (no problem there) and again I had a great half an hour. She was very enthusiastic and a great fuck. Great bj and also kissed me without hesitation. After the second session I was one happy bastard, but I decied to stay for number three. But I needed some time to get my strenght back, I spent the next 45 minutes talking to my new polish friend. She told me about her work, about the girls etc. etc. and even helped me pick up nummero 3. When the choice was made I found myself in a room again with a gril from Russia, I didnt quiet get her name (something like Rada) she was very friendly and reminded me of my last girlfriend (so maybe thats why I choose her) She didnt speak english and her german was also very basic. But she did speak very good french (he he) and we got along quiet nicely. Again a great 30 min (although she didnt kiss). After paying her I had another quick shower and headed for my locker. I got dressed and said my farewell's and got on my way home.
I spent 6 hours there, the time went by like it was only a few minutes. The whole experiance was 200 euros and worth every cent of it. The grils were GREAT (I cant stress this enough) and this is a place that I will defenetly come back to. In my opinion a 10 out of 10 ...
keep up the good work guys ...
C ya later!
To give you an impression about the girls Maciorus is talking about:
This should be the Rada he is talking about
http://www.parksauna-wildenrath.de/Gallery/Girls_1/Bild_7/p_05300050.jpg
and this is Jana (the one to the left with green pants)
http://www.parksauna-wildenrath.de/Girls1/Bild_17/024_21A.jpg
Macorius, am I right! If not, you can see one of the biggest problems in clubs: The huge turnaround in girls. Changing names and girls moving from one club to the next.
cu
kaleu
PS: Jana and Rada also used to work at Parksauna Wildenrath. Happy Garden and Parksauna have the same owner.
Yup, you are right, not sure about Jana's picture but the first one is defenetly Rada (thou the picture doesnt give her justice). When I talked to Jana she told me about moving about two months back from Parksauna to Happy Garden. And I am so happy she did :) Anyhow like I said the amount of girls is overwhelming!
laterz! c ya!
Member #1465
11-30-02, 04:53
I was visiting this club a couple of weeks ago. It was difficult to find it but after some driving around I found it. I had a good time. Just wish I spoke some more german. First girl I tried was a girl who said she was from Indonesia. Her sucking was not the best but the sex was ok. She was nice and friendly. She asked if she could come back later and I said that was ok. I rested a bit and then I tried a girl from Marocko and her sucking was better and the sex was ok too. Then the indonesian came back and it was a bit to close between those too so I had to work hard to be able to cum. But with her help it was possible and it was the best one. It was a very good night and if I'm in Germany again I will probably visit again.
Hi, I just visited PHG for the first time last Tuesday. Quite cool place, but after all the reading I although ended up as kind of dissappointed. The girls where outnumbered by 1:2. Even though the average quality are good, I would prefere some more initiative from the girls. I know they're restricted from active selling, but some interest wouldn't harm in my opinion. (I'm not that ugly either!) I picked a dutch nice looking girl and experienced good enthusiasm and engagement. I thought we setteled for a E50 deal, but even after giving her E50 explicity expressing it was OK with me, she insisted on giving me E25 back. Still wonder if was due to poor spoken English or some "rules" of the house. Nevertheless it turned out to be an extreme P/E, so thats a great pluss if you're counting euros.
Maybe it's too naive to think about me being "alone" with all those girls, but how crowded will this place be in peak hours in week ends? Or is Tuesday the day all Germans goes out with business colleagues?
your U
That the girls don't approach the guests is a principle in most of the FKK and Sauna clubs and it's good that way. It's sometimes a problem if you are a first timer or if you are visiting a club alone, because it becomes some kind of boring beiing in the club for hours. If you are a regular it's a different story like everywhere.
The club is always full, but if it is really crowded and packed, you'll very likely have to wait for a key to the room for half an hour or even one hour.
December so far was really crowded in my favourite clubs. Guys spent their christmas gratification ;)
cu
kaleu
"That the girls don't approach the guests is a principle in most of the FKK and Sauna clubs..."
Kaleu,
Just wanted your opinion on this:
I recently visited several clubs in the Frankfurt-Main area and, in that region of FKK-land, at least, the norm is the direct opposite from what you describe, namely: in the FFM area clubs the girls normally DO approach the guests, some quite persistently! I cite Oase in particular and Atlantis also, where SOME of the girls make it a Modis Operandi to approach guests and go for the "a la minute! approach.
In your opinion, Kaleu, is there a regional difference in this approach between, say, FFM and Koln area clubs, where the former approach guests as normal practise, but in the northern clubs this is taboo?
BTW: During my journey to the clubs last weeks, I also hopped up the A3 towards Koln and a bit beyond to PHG. I had last been there in mid-October, but I went again last Weds night. I noticed, btw, that the girl line-up was not as impressive at PHG last week as it usually is. Maybe it was an off night, or maybe some of the major regualrs have taken a break, but I saw a difference.
Ortos,
It depends on how the club is run. The ones around FFM seem to allow the girls to actively solicit. I personally find it irratating at the Oase. PHG, Wildenrath and Babylon have told there girls that this is not allowed. In the massive factory size clubs like Oase and Atlantis this is normal, in the homey sort of clubs like FTL or PHG, where they are more reliant upon regular customers, this is frowned upon.
Also this is the time of year when a lot of the girls (especially the Eastern European ones) go home for Christmas. I recently saw an add in the Bild for the Atlantis saying "A lot of our regular girls are on vacation now, so come by for your chance to earn some big $$" (This was obviously an add for Girls, not for Males!)
Sorry for a late answer, but I was on vacation. I fully agree with Peter. It depends on the club. But the club standard in the Rhine Ruhr area is, that the girls are not allowed to aproach the customers. That's not true for all clubs, but for the old, true and real FKK/Sauna clubs it's true (Babylon, Wiago, Cocoon, Blue Note, Bernd's Sauna Club...) From time to time especially in PHG, Wildenrath, Sudbad... there are exeptions to the rule.
cu
kaleu
I'll be in the Rhine area for at least 5 days the first week of March. I've been to Dolce Vita & Babylon a few times each but never to Planet Happy Garden. Does anyone know which days or times are the best to visit PHG (or which won't be so good)??? Was thinking about maybe on Sunday (I know they don't open until 3pm) do you guys think Sunday would be a good day to visit (or should I choose another day)???
Hi travel100,
Sunday and Monday are slow days with less girls than on Friday and Saturday. Anyway, if you want to have a relaxing time it's ok to visit the club on a Sunday. Fridays and Saturdays are ussually very busy. Thursday is usually a good choice, many girls an not too busy.
cu
kaleu
Just came back from my regular visit to PHG. An other day in heaven with great sunny weather and selection of ladies.
PHG and Atlantis are, according to me, the best places worldwide; I prefer PHG because of the "private club atmosphere" and beacuse it's only a two-hour drive from Amsterdam where I live.
report card :
Alina : russian, 1m65, very nice C natural breast, good oral technique (very soft), OK sex.
Helena : russian from ST-Petersburg, 25 years old, 1M80, really thin model look alike. as always with Helena excellent service.
Katalin : hungarian, around 27 years old, 1m 75, thin and athletic, almost no breast, very "girl-friend experience".
Carmen : German, 28 years old, 1m 70, beautiful "frau" face, spent 1 hour and finish with a "franz Total" (the happy few will understand this german technical word)
Forgive my ignorance, but what city is PHG near? I know it is the Rhine area, but what city is it near? Or perhaps a better question would be how far is it from Kaiserslautern? I'm trying to find a place that is at least close to where I'm at, and having difficulty. Any help guys?
V
Valmont :
PHG is 20 km north of Monchengladbach, that is to say a good 3 hour drive from Kaiserslautern. For exact adress check kaleu's website.
Frans
PHG is near Düsseldorf or Krefeld. Pretty far away from Kaiserslautern. Never been to Kaiserslautern, but I have not read too much about action in that area. If you are in the Army (there are some around there) see how you can catch a ride to Ray Barracks, which is less than 10KM from the Oase (Near Frankfurt)
Peter
Doctor_Skank
05-22-03, 11:04
Anybody know current prices and quality of material at PHG?
Any info will be appreciated, thanks!
PHG has the same price structure they have had since the Euro was introduced:
50€ Entrance
25€ for a session Covered BJ & Full Sex
+25€ for uncovered BJ
+25€ each additional 30 minutes
Not sure about extras, rarely book them.
Right now PHG is getting the best reviews, for quantitiy and quality of women. I don't really like the club that much. I don't like the atmosphere, and I find the ladies a bit old for my taste, but most people are really impressed by the place at the moment.
Peter
Doctor_Skank
05-23-03, 08:09
Peter,
With Atlantis getting mixed reviews right now, what is your fave club? Oase? Just curious.
I haven't ever really been an Atlantis fan, but I recommend it to newbies because it has the most WOW! factor.
All clubs are getting mixed reviews at the moment. The economy here is really bad and it is keeping club traffic down, which is causing many women to reassess their career choices.
Atlantis and Oase still have about 40 girls on a good night, that should be enough for any man I have ever met. Some of the negative reports also result overexposure. They have gotten used to having 60+ top ladies and now with only 40 and a few less top quality Eastern Europeans they think it has all gone to hell.
I have been relatively disappointed by my club visits in the last 4 months. I haven't come across any Mascha's, Lucy's, or Deniz's in quite a while. Girls who deliver an experience so miles above anything else that you are disappointed by everything underneath that. I have a couple of girls with whom I get along very well. they work at Wildenrath, Fantasyland and Oase, I tend to frequent those girls over and over again. Every once in a while I like to try out a new club and see what sort of talent is there. I know that this is very hit and miss, and that is a large part of the appeal for me.
I like experiencing the differing atmospheres of the different clubs and am not that upset if it is not a great new experience. Right now the tendency in the german forums is that PHG is considered the best club at the moment. As I have said, it is not really my favourite club, but my taste and general public opinion are often different. If you are in the Köln/Düsseldorf area I would recommend Happy Garden, but I wouldn't drive 3 hours from Frankfurt to get there.
I am also still quite partial to Fantasyland in Gorgeshausen (halfway between Frankfurt and Düsseldorf. I am also excited about the new club opening up in Giessen, maybe that will have the best talent.
It is impossible to say where you will have the best time. I for example am going to go to one of the cheap Red Carpet Clubs tonight, because I want some cheap sex. Next week I plan on going to the opening of the new club (free entry), but if I don't like the atmosphere there I will head for either Atlantis/Oase or Fantasyland. If I spend more time in Frankfurt I might go to an innercity club there called Köbe because I heard the cute little Mercedes from Relax is now working there.
I know this answer didn't help, but I hope it explains why I don't like to pigeon-hole my answers and preferences.
Peter
There was a large Internet Summit at Planet Happy Garden Yesterday. I finally met Kaleu (real nice guy) and quite a few guys from Dexter Horn (Haven't posted there in forever). That was the good part of the evening...
After yesterdays experience I would call PHG Paradise for Homo's and Gays.
There were at least 60 guys there and they claimed 27 girls. there were long spells when I counted more thn 35 guys in the bar and for a 15 minute stretch not one single woman. There were only 2 girls there who appealed to my taste and they were continually booked.
Maja, a really skinny girly type, got booked for over 2 hours with the fattest ugliest guy I have ever seen in a club. Me and this other guy were both waiting outside the room for her, she had another reservation before us, and then looking at the watch meant we wouldn't both have enough time.
After 4 hours in the club I left without one single session. I went to Wildenrath where I had a great time.
I was very dissapointed in PHG. they claimed 8-10 girls didn't show up, but they kept letting guys in, including large groups. They also let about 10 girls leave at 10 PM. I know they can't force them to stay if they have been working the early shift, but when the place looks so much like a gay sauna club they should have done something, even if it had just been to stop letting more people in.
I complained quite openly, but was not very happy about the counter womans reaction. I aksed if she could call Wildenrath to see if that place had a better ratio, she wouldn't, she just had Silvia let me know that there are normally 15 girls there. I already knew that.
I have never had a good time at PHG, but this time was the worst on the woman front that I have ever experienced. I really liked meeting the large english speaking internet contingent, but I didn't need to pay 50€ entrance to meet you.
Peter
First of all, it was nice to meet you Peter!
Oh oh, poor boy ;)
I guess I had better luck than you on this "gay party" (I would simply consider it as busy day, as it can happen there on many Fridays and Saturdays) with my three sessions. Of course, frankly speaking our taste regarding girls is totally different and on that night I was lucky regarding exotic girls.
Anyway Peter, I agree to you, they shouldn't let in any new guys, when a certain girl:men ratio is not given anymore.
cu
kaleu
Doctor_Skank
05-26-03, 09:33
Guys,
Thanks for your info. Interesting report on your night at PHG...I agree that having to wait in line for a girl definitely detracts from the experience... can't imagine paying entrance and then not even having one go...seems like one should get their money back if there is nothing available, but a money back guarantee is the one thing you'll never get in this business! Actually knew a guy who once couldn't perform in Amsterdam and demanded his money back...he flew at least 5 meters out of that kamer...quite impressive.
I am always looking for good clubs in the Ruhr/Rhein area since I live close to Dortmund and Frankfurt is too far away to visit regularly. As always, keep the good info coming.
@Kaleu
I had a great time at Wildenrath, but there was nothing there for you. Mina was the darkest thing there. About the complaint with no kissing I talked to Nadeen and she told me that for the 50€ session kissing is standard. She said that it is not part of the 25€ package, but that all girls shopuld kiss for 50€. I get very deep kisses from Beate and Monica. I saw Mina and Romy kiss clients. It was quite full so I even saw quite a bit of couch action upstairs. But as I said before, 100% European Stock.
@Doctor
Why don'T you try some of the Red Carpet Clubs along the A40. They are cheap and some have a good selection of girls. I did fine in Bochum Freudenbergstr, and there are some very good reports on Arabella. The addresses are all listed in ads in the BILD newspaper.
If you are in Dortmund and willing to put in a little over a one hour drive I would try Park Schloss dali in Marsberg. It is 1 hour from Dortmund towards Soest and then through the countryside. It is a really big old convent with amazing facilities. The quality of women can vary, but the set up is great. The new club in Giessen should also be within 80 minutes of dortmund as well (Takes about as long to get to as Happy Garden.
Peter
@peter
I know Mina, she is also working at Tag & Nacht Cafe in Mönchengladbach from time to time. I liked her looks, but my friend JF had a session with her and his reporting after the session was a 100% no go for me.
cu
kaleu
PS: Kissing@Wildenrath: I was there the last time in December and a friend who was with me, had problems in finding girls who kiss. There is maybe a little discrepancy between "Rule and Reality" (and no, he doesn't have a problem with his dentist ;) )
Doctor_Skank
05-27-03, 09:47
Peter,
Thanks for the info, I will check out those places. I'm always looking for alternatives to my usual places...don't like to frequent a particular place too often as I really enjoy the excitement of someplace (and someone!) new...
Planet Happy Garden has a webpage now:
http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/
cu
kaleu
Is there anybody out there in a position to provide some fresh data --number/quality/service of girls currently working, general club rating and perhaps comments about specific girls-- about PHG? Haven't heard much about this club lately, and last time I was there was about a year ago, so looking for any updated info? Any new stars arrive since last year?
Thanks in advance for any help...
Hi Ortos,
I guess you know about some German boards, right? There is a German messageboard, that contains a full list of PHG girls, including their service and ratings.
Anyway, number and quality of girls is still high and unchanged since last year. PHG is still same league as Atlantis and BHH and a bargain regarding prices. I'm maybe too much into exotic girls, but nevertheless, here are my highlights of this year
Thai: We, Pia, Weena
Brazil: Adrianna, Daniela
Tunesia: Liz
In case of any trouble, drop me a note!
cu
kaleu
Thanks a mill, for that response, Kaleu.
Yes, I keep hearing about these elusive German boards, that track and give specific posts about my favourite clubs, PHG, Oase and Atlantis. But my every attempt to nail down which board(s) offer these data leave me unsuccessful. Once I found one that had good posts about Atlantis, but then my laptop comuter was stolen, so the web address was lost to me.
I know it's against protocol to list rival boards, but any hints would be most welcome. I am hungry for Information al fresco!
Should I e-mail you directly or can you post links here?
Thnks,
Ortos
I don't know if any of these might help altho I'm sure Kaleu will have more useful ones
http://www.roemerforum.de/ is useful altho it's agechecked and you'l need to join the agecheck system . I think it's worth it - I managed it despite a very limited understanding of German
http://www.hurenforen.to/ is free access and has some reports about some FKK
I agree if kaleu could give us at least a good hint (not to mention the link) it would do us a world of good :)
Keep up the good work!
I hope Jackson will forgive me ;) In the German section of my page, you'll find the link to "Rheinforum". That board includes a full list of regular girls.
No need to join any adult verification systems to enter the board(s):
Choose "ueber18.de" as your verification system (it's based on German ID card numbers)
Check out this page for a valid German ID card code: http://www.nemesis-sektor.de/service/personalausweis.phtml (down the page)
The rest should be selfexplanatory.
For translations check out http://www.worldlingo.com copy the German report in question, go to Worldlingo and choose machine translation, paste the report into the HTML form, select source and destination language, hit the translate button, ENJOY!
Hope it helps!
cu
kaleu
PS: Of course the machine based translations are by far not perfect, but you'll get the idea!
PPS: @shiatsu, drop me a note by e-mail, if you are still in Germany: fkkclubs@gmx.net
PPPS: @Ortos, if you want, you can also contact me off-list via e-mail (see above).
Danke, 1000 mal, Kaleu. This is invaluable information. I feel as though someone just handed me a map to treasured information! I shall proceed forthwith to do the following:
1. Open up a bottle of Cabernet Savinginon Red, in your honour!
2. Get myself a Deutshe Ausweis card code, or whatever, and start to plunge into these German sites.
The translation thing at wordlingo is nice to know about, aber vielleicht es ist noch besser um Deutsche zu lesen, so das Man macht besser seine sprach-talent. No? Uben macht heisser FKK nights!
Thanks again!
Ortos
Ueber18 used to work with a US passport too, at least that is how I got my verification
I also used my US passport to register at Ueber 18 about 2 years ago.
Peter, I'm in D-dorf Thurs - Sat. Let me know on email if you want to hook up.
US-ID cards are also working, you're right, but that was too easy ;)
cu
kaleu
Hi folks,
I've planned a trip to PHG in the last week-end of November. Could any regular please tell me if Friday or Saturday is best with regards to men/female ratio ? (In case you wonder, I'll prefer as small fraction as possible :-) Last time I had a hard time finding parking space outside !!!
wbr
your U
Just go early or earlish, say, 15/16.00. Then you will be able to find a parking space.
Kaleu,
That link you posted for German Id card numbers id not working. I have triewd a few times.
Any other way to get detailed info on FKK girls?
Thanks for your help.
Seems they have removed that page. Don't worry, you can also use US-ID cards to log in via ueber18.de
ci
kaleu
Hi,
the PHG address is:
http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/
BR, Zambo
Hello Planet Happy Men,
I just returned from my first visit to PHG over New Years, what a trip. Drove down from Amsterdam with a few friends on a monday. What a freakin stench, that rotting cabbage is obnoxious.
We all had some fun with the driving directions, laughed about "Wankum" we surely don't want to end up there!
We arrived at around 4:00 P.M, no parking issues. The entry procedure was interesting, kind of a visual shakedown.
We are all "mature" professional types, no problems. After getting the Jisrobe's and locker keys.
The lineup at 4:00 P.M was pretty decent,, around 25 girls, only about 15 men.
Not going to get into all the details about the various sessions, enjoyed the whole night, left at closing time.
One caveat, make sure and be available when they serve dinner, unless you eat prior to arrival. The food goes fast. I made it after my second session, my friends were in shock, no food, how will we make it until 1:00 A.M They ended up ordering Chinese delivered, all served nicely by IVE, one of the girlies.
Really enjoyed the scene, the food, the little "Hansel and Gretel" cabins in the back were nice.
I think I took about 15 showers,, 4 sessions, lots of beer.
Got pulled over by the German Police right after we pulled out of the parking lot, we were the last car to leave, good thing the designated driver had been eating pussy the last few hours instead of drinking. We chuckled about what he would "blow" in the breathalizer, probably just a few pubic hairs. LOL
WE made it to the Autobahn and headed back to Amsterdam by 5:00 A.M.
Quite a night!
Heading back in March during my venture from Prague to Frankfurt (Atlantis and Oase) then to PHG, ending in Amsterdam and Alkmaar.
Fun Fun Fun on the Autobahn!
Regards,
James
Ramster asked how to get to Happy Garden from Amsterdam Central Station. I dn't know if you have a car or want to travel by train. Train is probably the best way to get to Germany from Amsterdam, but I don't know where you are staying or anything, so advice is tough. I am posting the directions from my FAQ about PHG.
1. How to Get There / Directions
PHG is located in a small industrial park in the middle of nowhere between Krefeld, Kempen, Grafrath-Oedt, St. Tönis / Vorst and Viersen-Süchteln. Might be best to have a Taxi-Driver show you the way. Everyone that I have met has gotten very lost looking for this place the first time. I ended up going home because I could not find it. The directions below are good, but expect to drive past it at least once. The best map is available Kaleu’s Clubindex (http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de/kaleu/deutsch/detail.php?area=Viersen&file_name=happy-garden). At the driveway to the Industrial area there is a large sign with a number of the firms listed, at night you can notice the PHG by ist lights
Adress: Planet Happy Garden, Butzenstr. 41, 47918 Tönisvorst, Tel. 02152 / 519103
(1) From Koblenz / Mönchengladbach: Take the A61 towards Venlo until Exit 6 Süchteln. At the end of the exit turn right towards Viersen-Süchteln, continue down the hill (Warning: Radar trap at the town sign!) to the 2nd set of lights, where you take a right and follow the street to the end of town towards Vorst / Krefeld. At the next set of lights turn left towards Oedt, after a couple of Kilometers, turn right at the church in the direction of Krefeld / Kempen / St. Tönis, at the 1st intersection (no set of lights) turn right towards Krefeld / St. Tönis and after 30 meters turn right again. Then bear right until there is a sign for Guest Parking at PHG.
(2) From Köln: Take the A57 towards Krefeld, at the Autobahn Crossing Kaarst on the A52 (Towards Roermond, Mönchengladbach) until Autobahn Crossing Neersen (Exit 10) continue on the A44 (Towards Krefeld), Exit 23 Willich-Münchheide turn left onto L361 / Anrather Strasse (Towards Tönisvorst); after Tönisvorst turn left towards Oedt (via Reckenhöfe), 30 m before the next intersection (Left towards Oedt, Right towards Kempen) on your left is the Industrial Park where the PHG is.
(3) From Düsseldorf (alternative to the Köln way(2)): Take the A52 to the Neersen Crossing (Exit 10), take the exit towards Krefeld (A44) but do not go onto the A44, rather take the exit towards Neersen. At the end of the exit turn left towards Neerse after the 2nd set of lights turn right towards Grefrath / üchteln /Anrath, after appr. 12 km in Oedt turn right at the church towards Krefeld / Kempen / St. Tönis, the rest is under (1)
(4) From Ruhrgebeit: Follow the A40 (towards Venlo, Neukirchen –Vluyn) until Exit 5 (Kempen), take a left towards Kempen. At the 1st set of lights (before the McDonald’s) turn left onto the Kempener Außenring, at the 6th set of lights turn left towards Oedt. After ca. 2 km turn left towards Krefeld / St. Tönis, the rest as in (1)
(5) From [Eindhoven / Venlo[/b] via the A40 / E34 from Geldern / Straelen (L39): Exit 3 (Wankum / Grefrath) take a right towards Viersen / Grefrath (This is where the way from Geldern / Straelen / Aldekirk starts), after ca. 8 km take a left at the 1st set of lights towards Krefeld / Kempen / Oedt (B509), at the 4th set of lights take a right towards Oedt, after appr. 2 km take a left towards Krefeld / St. Tönis, the rest under (1)
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If you have problems give them a call and have them explain the way.
GPS-Coordinates (not liable for accuracy): 51° 20' 3" Nord, 6° 23' 57" Ost, lt. MS AutoRoute ca. 51° 33' 45" Nord, 6° 39' 92" Ost (If you happen to be in the Airforce please do not target this place for bombing, it would be a shame to lose it).
Public Transit: Closest Train Stations are Krefeld, Kempen and Viersen; There is an hourly buss (66) from Krefeld Trainstation and Viersen-Süchteln (M-F until Midnight, Sat. Until 9pm, Sunday 4x), the Busstop is Graverdyk. Walk a couple of hundred meters back towards Krefeld to the intersection then take a right and you are there.
Hope that helps,
Stephen
Thank you for the Directions to PHG, I will be going in Sept.
Hello Friends,
I am interested in finding Turkish women in Germany. Any ideas on where I can find the maximum amount of Turkish women in an FKK Club? Any links?
Thanks
Lover Boy #2
02-13-04, 08:05
Try Planet Happy Garden (Oedt). There are a lot of Turkish girls there, as well as a lot of other places. This is the second largest nationality in Deutschland. I would rec. DeLara as a starting point.
loverboy,
i had a wild experience with a turkish/morroccan girl at phg a couple of months ago, after our session, she followed me around for a while, wanted me to go with her again, followed me into the sauna, found her way into my robe and just about raped me.
hard to pass up, but a few russian girls had my eye, not to mention a few czech and germans as well.
those dark eyes in the turk's, wild looking exotic women.
have fun, i did, and will again in march.
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I will visit PHG now the 19/02/2004.
If any English speaking members are there, please notify me.
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This report is about my last visit, at 02/19/2004, I arrived at 12h00 with my buddy from belgium, it was his first time, so he was very curious.
We first eat lunch, than we went in to the bararea.
I was greeted by a Brazilian girl named Daniella, she asked what I wanted to drink, I asked for coffee.
My friend was amazed by the number off nice girls there.
First round, I chose Daniella.
Off to the room, Ii paid Daniella 75 €, so I could stay for 1 hour. Quickly she started to kiss me and presented her boobs to me. Than she give me a BBBJ, and finished with some nice athletics.
We chat for a while and same again for the second round. We went back to the bararea, my friend hat also been to a room and was very satisfied with his choise. We went to the sauna and meet other people from Holland.
For my second girl, I chose Sammy, a tall 20 year old german girl. She is nr. 1 there in PHG. No regrets afterwards, I paid 100€ for a nice performense, she acts like a pornactrice, I fucked her two times in her arse, she kept on chanching positions.
I was very tired afterwards!
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Greetings,
I will be traveling from Frankfurt to Oedt (Venlo) on Saturday March 20. I will be heading over to PHG for Saturday night, this will be my second visit to the club. If anyone is planning on attending that day, let me know. I will be taking the train from
Frankfurt via Dusseldorf to Venlo, checking into the Hotel Van der Valk along side the highway enroute to PHG. Then plan on taking a train from Venlo to some town close to Oedt, then taxi to the Club. On the return, I will be taking a taxi direct to Venlo for about 35 Euro. Plan on spending the whole afternoon and evening there to see Sammy, Leona, and a few other hotties.
Regards,
Carnal1
I was fortunate enough to spend a little time in heaven last month, and for me, heaven is the Planet Happy Garden near Krefeld, Germany.
Almost 6 months ago I found out that I would be spending about 6 days in the Dusseldorf area, so I logged onto the World Sex Guide to see what action might be available in the Dusseldorf area. I'm not at all into the 'street scene', so my extensive research led me to make Planet Happy Garden as my choice.
To set some background, I'm an American, I did NOT have an automobile, and I speak almost no German, but I wasn't going to let any of those facts stop me from reaching my goal.
With the most powerful information gathering tool in history at my disposal, I did a little research on the World Wide Web and put together my plan.
My only day free from business was Sunday, so when Sunday arrived, I took the well run German train system from Dusseldorf to my first way-point, Krefeld, the closest large town close to Planet Happy Garden.
From the train station in Krefeld, I called for a taxi, and when it arrived, I talked with the driver. His english was as bad as my German, and trying to direct him to my destination by address was not working well, so I asked him to take me to "Planet Happy Garden". He gave me a questioning look and I began to worry that my trip may have hit an unsurmountable obstacle. He then asked, "Happy Garden?", with a large, smile. I nodded and said yes. So if you're in the local area, and plan to travel to the Planet Happy Garden by taxi, it appears that most of the locals just call it "Happy Garden". He hit the meter and off we went on a delightful trip through the German countryside. About 15-20 minutes later we arrived at the small industrial park where Planet Happy Garden was located. The taxi fare was just over 25 Euros. I paid my driver and got out. The parking lot was empty. I was a bit worried, but I walked to the front door, and gave the bell a ring. The door was answered by a delightful blonde woman who informed me in broken English that they weren't open yet. I looked at my watch and I could see she was correct. It had taken me less time to arrive at the Planet Happy Garden than I had planned! I had a half an hour to kill before they opened! I thanked her and decided to take a short walk around the area. With the exception of PHG, the rest of the businesses in the local area are commercial and light industrial. The weather was not too bad so my walk was rather refreshing. As time came closer to the 3:00pm opening time, the parking lot began to fill. By the time 3:00pm arrived, I was waiting with a group of about 8 men waiting to get in. Finally the door opened, and we were allowed into paradise!
The blonde I spoke with earlier turned out to be the manager of the house. She spoke in German to the rest of the group and collected the house fee of 50 Euros from each of us. She then sized each of us up and gave us a wonderfully thick bath robe, towel, and sauna shoes to wear during our time at PHG. She also gave us a locker key on a wrist band. When the rest of the men went off toward the locker room, I flagged down the manager and explained that I don't speak German, and needed further explanation. She was incredibly nice and polite and explained the house rules: 50 Euros entry fee, 25 Euros for half an hour BJ & sex, both 'with condom'. 50 Euros for half an hour BBBJ & sex 'with condom'. Each additional half hour doubled the price. I thanked her, and headed off for the locker room. I found my locker, stripped and put on the robe and shoes. I left all of my valuables in the locker and assumed that working out payment with the girl would take place later.
Equipped for my adventure, I decided to tour the facility. Just past the locker room were showers and bathrooms. A tanning bed was available, but I'm not sure if it was free or not. I only ever saw one of the girls using it. Beyond that was a large room with a table, sauna, another shower area, and a large, sunken lounge area. I appears that this used to be an indoor pool. Patio doors lead out to the garden area, and I could see several small cottages that are probably nice to visit in warming weather. I think it was a good idea to change it over to a lounge area. At the far end of the lounge area was an open bar. Customers are encouraged to go behind the bar and help themselves to beer or soft drinks. I decided that I would take a shower before I proceeded to the bar area. The shower area was nice, with an area to hold your towel and bath robe. An added treat is that some of the ladies shower here as well. There appears to be a backstage area where the girls can clean up in privacy, but I think some of the girls use the 'public' shower for advertising purposes, and I had no problems with that! After showering, I decided to have a look at the ladies!
I proceded back through the locker area, back throught the entry foyer, and into the bar area. The bar was already quite crowded, but it was a target rich environment! The bar is a large-ish room with two small rooms set off from the bar. There is also a door to the outside, and to the 'backstage' area. I was lucky enough to get a seat at the far end of the bar. A good location to observe the ladies. There were probably 10 or more ladies already on duty. They included some obviously German ladies, a couple of asians, one african, a Brazilian, and several eastern European/Russian lovelies. As recommended on this forum, I was determined to wait for a while to make sure I saw what was available. Less than 5 minutes after I sat down, one of the ladies, a tall, blonde German went behind the bar and asked me, in German, if I would like a drink. I told her I didn't speak German. She told me she didn't speak English but we communicated well enough to get me a coca cola.
As I looked around, I made eye contact with several of the girls. As I would smile at them some of them would smile back, some wouldn't. I made note of which would. As I glanced at one of the asian ladies, she smiled at me, and made a hand gesture that could only be described as her giving a BJ. I'm not really into asians, so I smiled and moved on. About 5 minutes later, the Brazilian woman walked up and sat down next to me. I forget her name, but she was cute, probably a 6 out of 10, but she had a 'ridden hard and put away wet' look that doesn't appeal to me. We talked shortly and I asked her what the costs for a bit of her time would be. She started at 50 Euros for BBBJ, and did not appear to want to discuss the smaller amount. She became a bit insistant, so I finally told her that I was waiting a bit before I took the plunge. I thanked her and she moved on. I watched for almost an hour and finally decided to make a move on a blonde German when I saw for the first time, a young, beautiful eastern European girl with long brown hair. She was sitting at a group of stools on the wall opposite the bar. There was an empty stool next to her so I sat down next to her and began to talk. Her English was not so good, but I found out her name was Natalie. She was, IMO, a 9 out of 10. Slim, with smallish, but pert breasts, lovely eyes, and beautiful long hair. We spoke for a few minutes, when she leaned closer to me and asked if I'd like to have sex with her. I was so entranced by her beauty that I just nodded. She smiled, and told me to wait for her for a few moments. After a couple of minutes she returned with a key to one of the many rooms at PHG. We went downstairs and went into the room. The room was clean and dimly lit. She told me to take my robe off and that she would return shortly. I stripped and sat down on the bed. After a moment she returned in a robe. She then laid several towels down on the bed, which made sense to me for cleanliness sake. She quickly removed her robe and climbed onto the bed. I joined her and she began to kiss me with the softest, sweetest kisses. My hands began to roam about her body... the reality of her matched the promise offered in the bar area. In a short time, she moved down to my cock and begin giving me a wonderful BBBJ. I hadn't intended to go the 50 Euro/BBBJ route, but because I hadn't discussed it previously my decision had been made for me! After a while, she got me far too close to climax, so I pulled her away from my cock and we necked for a while longer. Finally, I asked her to put a condom on me, which she did, and we proceeded to fuck in several different positions, my favorites being plain ol' missionary, but with her long brown hair haloed around her beautiful face. I also really enjoyed her on top with her hair falling into my face, which is how I climaxed. Afterwards, she cleaned me up with a gentle, tender touch. We kissed and touched for a bit longer, and then it was time to go. We arranged to meet at my locker, where I would pay her 50 Euros. It was more than I wanted to pay, but it was worth every minute. At my locker I payed her the 50, she gave me a smile and a kiss, and off she went. I went to the shower, cleaned up, and began the tough decision on which lady I would spend time with next.
After a thorough shower, I went to the pool/lounge area to allow my middle-aged body time to recover for the next round. There was a buffet set out and I helped myself to some cheese and lunchmeat. I also tried a strange German beverage that appeared to mix beer with cola. It was different. I sat down on a couch in the pool/lounge and watched 'Fashion TV' which was playing on a plasma monitor on the opposite wall. After eating a snack and having a drink, jet lag got the best of me and I actually dozed off for a short time. When I woke up, I decided it was time to make my next choice.
I proceeded to the bar area, and now that it was later in the day, it was a LOT more crowded. Many of the ladies I saw earlier were still there, but none of them were to my taste. The only lady that struck my eye was a thin, well tanned, German lass with short dark hair. She was attentive without being agressive. Each time my glance went towards her, she would glance back at me and give me a very nice smile. She was sending me a message, she's available, all I have to do is ask. She was very nice, perhaps a 6 or 7 out of 10, with a wonderful body, but I was determined to follow the advice of this forum and bide my time. Almost an hour passed and my choices weren't getting any better. My young German friend with the good tan continued to smile in my direction, so I walked over to her. Her name was Eva or Ava. We talked shortly and agreed to grab a room and have some fun. She left and returned short time later with a room key. I was determined this time to keep it to the 25 Euro level... money doesn't grow on trees, and with the current exchange rates, the Euro isn't cheap! We arrived at the room and the procedure followed my previous experience, with the addition that this would NOT include a BBBJ. Soon we were on the bed kissing and touching. While Eva was not the most beautiful woman at PHG, she gets a 10+ for providing a GirlFriend Experience! She touched, rubbed, and licked anywhere and everywhere! Foreplay is a wonderful thing with an attentive partner! She gave excellent oral sex, and fucking with her was wonderful as well. While she was not as beautiful as Natalie, she made up for it with skill and enthusiasm. When I finally finished, she cleaned me up, and pointed out that we had taken more than half an hour, and she would have to charge me 50 Euros. I was upset for only a moment... it had been a wonderful experience, and I learned another valuable lesson. Eva was nice enough to stay for the rest of the hour and she rubbed and carressed my body in a wonderful way. She tried to bring me to an erection for a second go, but I had already cum twice in the last few hours, and my middle-aged body wouldn't cooperate. Our time up, I paid her the 50 Euros, showered, and returned to the pool/lounge area.
I debated whether or not to try and go a 3rd round, and decided to give it a try. After a short recovery time at the pool/lounge, I went back to the bar area. Again, it was much busier, and there were even more new ladies! After a short time perusing the ladies from my favorite spot at the end of the bar, I decided to move to a stool opposite the bar so I could get a better view in the crowded bar area. As soon as I sat down, an older lady, 30+ in my estimation sat down next to me. She was good looking in a professional way, and wore glasses, which is a look I really like. She immediately began licking her lips suggestively and all but grabbed me by the arm and dragged me to a room. Her antics caused a stirring in my loins, and I confirmed my smart decision to stay for another round with another lady. I talked with this woman for a while, but she wasn't my cup of tea, and I politely told her that I was looking for someone else. She smiled, gave me a kiss on the cheek and moved on to the next guy! I had spotted a young Russian looking lady at the end of the bar. I walked up to her and began to talk. She didn't speak hardly any English, and abrubtly got up and walked away. I was shocked for a moment in being blown off in such a manner, but I realized that perhaps I wasn't her cup of tea, and it wasn't like I was asking her out on a date or something. As I sat there slightly stunned, I spotted another Russian girl sitting on a stool next to a small table across from the bar. I walked up and sat down across the table from her. I tried to start up a conversation with her, but she showed no real interest. Wondering if I had become cursed, I was starting to look elsewhere when this incredibly beautiful, dark haired European beauty walked up, put her purse down on the table and began talking to the other girl in Russian. I had seen her in my second trip to the bar area, but she was so beautiful that she was quickly snapped up by someone before I could approach her. The previously non-talkative girl had no problems talking with the new beauty, who in the meantime was looking, and smiling at me! I asked her her name, and she replied Rada. It didn't take long before she asked me if I'd like to get a room with her. I gulped and nodded yes! She excused herself and went to get a room key. I looked up at my previous Russian target, and she looked surprised, so I just smiled at her and waited for Rada to return. While Rada was gone, I thought more about her. She was about 5' 4" tall, medium length brown hair, thin with perfectly sized and shaped breasts for her size. She had a bandana wrapped around her upper arm, probably covering a tattoo. Her make up appeared professionally applied, and in my opinion she was easily the most beautiful woman in the entire place. She was a 10+ for looks! I really don't like women with tattoo's or overly large or fake breasts, so it was probably lucky for me she was wearing the bandana on her arm. I actually found the bandana on her arm quite sexy. She was gone for an unusually long amount of time, and I began to worry that perhaps she had forgotten about me, when she showed up, kissed me and apologized for taking so long. She had a key and we proceeded to room number 1, which is right by the front entrance. She left for a short time and returned, and we agreed that this session would be for 30 minutes/25 Euros. I had to make sure I had enought money left to get back to Dusseldorf! She then did something different from the other girls. She kept her sexy lingerie on, and in a very much Girl Friend Experience way, she began to rub herself up against me as we stood together. She began to take her clothes off seductively and I helped her. We eventually ended up on the bed, and she began kissing me, perhaps not as enthusiastically as my previous two experiences, but god was she beautiful! We spent a wonderful half an hour in each others company exploring each others bodies. Rada's skills in bed were excellent and when I finally climaxed with her on top so I could look into her beautiful brown eyes and hold her perfect breasts, I thought that this was indeed a wonderful way to complete my visit to PHG. Rada met me at my locker, I gave her 30 Euros, she was worth twice that.
I showered, dressed, and asked the manager to call me a taxi. As the taxi drove me back to the Krefeld train station, I thought to myself that I had learned the following lessons:
1) Planet Happy Garden is the closest thing to heaven on Earth there is.
2) Make sure to negotiate with your lady what will go on before you go to the room.
3) Make sure you bring enough cash to take care of all of your plans. They don't have any kind of ATM on the premises, and the closest ATM is in a nearby small town.
4) Bring your watch with you when you go into the room and keep an eye on it if you don't want to get caught in the more than 30 minutes trap I was.
Summary of the ladies: at it's peak, there were probably more than 20-25 ladies of all shapes, ages, and sizes. You should be able to find at least one that will appeal to you.
Natalie: Looks - 9/10 -- Body - 9/10 -- GFE - 7/10
Eva: Looks - 6.5/10 -- Body - 9/10 -- GFE - 10/10
Rada: Looks - 10+/10 -- Body - 9/10 -- GFE - 7/10
Should I be lucky enough to ever return to the PHG, I would without hesitation spend time with any of these lovely ladies!
Good luck, and make PHG a destination on your next trip to Germany!
Cheers,
Lubert Das
Lubert,
Great report!
Couple of notes. The pricing scheme for more than half n hour is not right. You only pay the 25€ upprice for BBBJ or other services once, each half hour is 25€ additional. That means if your first session had gone one hour it would have been 75€.
The other correction is that there was no more than 30 minutes trap, she spent the full hour with you.
Just a tip to people that head there, Bring enough money and DO NOT go for the 25€ session, the girls reallydon't like ot much, and you might get much more hit and miss session. Go for the 50€ session and feel free to extend it. I find the sessions are best if there is no time pressure and the girls know this.
The girls who walk away from you might have so little english knowledge that they feel really uncomfortable. If you have been asking around for 25€ sessions word might have gotten around and girls can try to avoid you. The girls are also free to refuse service to any customer they don'T want to go to the room with. It is better that way, I don't like the forced feeling.
I know they offer the 25€ session, but unless you are really opposed to BBBJ it is not adviseable. As you said there are a lot of girls and a lot of customers, and the girls all mnage a decent number of rooms a night, but they would rather have 4 rooms @ 50€ rather than 8 @ 25€.
Those are just my comments, but your report was excellent.
Peter
Peter,
I completely agree with you, those girls go for the gusto when you extend up front, shit, only 75 E or one hour of raw BBBJ French Totale!
I did 4 sessions last trip, each one was between 45 and 60 minutes. The best club I have been to so far. Will be back in 10 days for some more fun.
Eva is quite a fun young girl, very good personality and goes the extra mile. Leona and Sammie are top notch as well.
Lover Boy #2
03-12-04, 07:04
The bandanna covers a scar from burning, not a tattoo on Rada from PHG. My friend tells me she does deep anal also. Have fun! This is a great place to start.
Hi,
I am also an assiduous reader of www.rheinforum.de and www.roemerforum.de, even if I need automatic translators like google to understand the reports, cause my german is very poor.
Unfortunately to post it is not possible to use these translators because the result will be not understandable for the other users.
So I post here, knowing that anyway the users of those forums are only a click away from this one, at least those of them who understand english.
I appreciate very much the Willy69 thread about PHG, and I know he know english so I think a lot of peaple like him will read my reports.
I was at PHG a week ago and the girls presents which I know (taken from Willy69 list) were: Laura, Sabina, Leona, Katalin, Nancy, Vivian, Carolina, Natasha.
Nancy told me she does not speak english, so even if she is very beautiful I search for more. Another girl from whom I received the same answer is ?Nosha? (I think I did not understood correctly, because she is not in any report but I know she have been there in the past): she is blonde, long hair, very pretty face, from Poland, friend of Carolina, a beautiful body with floreal patterns, about 165cm tall, young (about 22 y.o.). Anybody can help?
Carolina is about 170cm tall, black hair long to the neck, three tattoos (one on the back of the left shoulder with a “P”, a dolphin on the left tit and one (some hearts) on the right ass, belly piercing, tanned, about 24 y.o., a lot of make-up. I have read not good report about her, so I did not approached.
At the end I spent my time with Katalin but the performance was not so good, probably she was tired (it was late at night).
Bye.
Hi guys!
I’ll write a report about my last visit to PHG, because it was very nice and pretty eventful. I went there on Saturday the 20th. I was worried that it would be very crowded so I decided to get a head start. Took me about 2 hours to get there, as always finding the place was a nightmare, but luckily exactly at noon I was ringing the bell to the gates of heaven :) At that time it was very calm. About 15 girls no more then 8 guys.
After the normal routine I sat down and decided to take a look at the “potential” and I have to say, all was looking good. Out of the 15 girls, there were maybe two that I wouldn’t pay for (which doesn’t mean I wouldn’t get a room with them for free).
After a while I decided I would like some Asian. There were 3 Thai girls. One of them really struck my fancy. Her name was Lu (if I understood correctly). She didn’t speak very good English, but I didn’t need her for her linguistic skills. She was a typical Asian girl, rather small, long black hair, cute face with a bit too much makeup, but what I really enjoyed was her rack. She had large, for her size, tits and boy were they fun. We got a room and she was HOT! She kissed, but not too deeply, really good BBBJ and multiple positions. She smiled all the way through the act and in general was very friendly. After we were done I wasn’t really sure how long we were in the room. I thought It was a bit over the 30 min mark (40 min or so). So I decided to give her a little test. When we went to my locker to pay I gave her a 100 E bill and told her to bring my the rest. I figured we’ll see how much she will bring. And I’ll be damned! She brought me 50E so this made a good impression on me.
Overall grades:
Looks: 9 (no 10s sorry)
Attitude: 8.5 (for little kissing)
Sex: 9
GEF: 9
After my session I had a small break, during which I met two Dutch guys, who were very friendly and we had a bit of a chat. It was nearing 2:30pm and there much more girls and a few more guys. Throughout my stay (12-7pm) it wasn’t really crowded, though you could see that the “better” girls were swept away pretty quickly. Around 3pm more girls started working and I noticed my friend Monika from Poland. I had her before and really liked her. I decided to go talk to her, she remembered me, not by name but its okay, not like we were planning on getting married :) We got a room, I told her upfront I want an one hour session. So we started talking first and getting in the mood. After the foreplay we got down to business and she gave me such a good BBBJ (omg!) just seeing her head going up and down my dick was a priceless moment. She is really skillful. After that we went on to doggy and missionary which was really nice, but I got the ride of my life when she went on top. I was her first customer the day and she really had me holding on to the bed, she was wild. The only thing I didn’t like was again the kissing. Just like Lu she DID kiss, it just wasn’t full mouth, deep French kissing. But all in all a great lay. Cost my only 75E.
Overall grades:
Looks: 8.5
Attitude: 8.5 (again for little kissing)
Sex: 9.5
GEF: 9
Having had two session I was a bit tired, I needed some time to recuperate. But there wasn’t anything to do. I didn’t really know anybody and not knowing German didn’t help. But I heard one guy speak English so I decided to start a conversation with him. It turned out to be our buddy Carnal who is currently having what can only be described as “Tour de Puss” around Europe. He’s a very friendly guy and we had some nice time talking (cheers James! :) Around 5:30pm I was ready for another go, unfortunately James took the two best looking girls (Leona and Sammy) TOGETHER, for an hour! That lucky bastard! I envy him so much. So I had to look for other prospects. I was very confused, there were a LOT of nice girls and that was maybe my problem I didn’t know which one to choose. So I decided to ask one of the Dutch guys for help. He was more then willing (thanks Jack!). He pointed out Nadia from Germany, a rather tall blonde with a nice body, very natural, I liked her. After a bit of chit-chat I suggested we get a room. All in all she was VERY good. Kissed a LOT, really nice BBBJ and wasn’t afraid to give ma good time. When I finished (which wasn’t hard) she gave me a back rub (mmmm…) Half an hour = 50E.
Overall grades:
Looks: 9
Attitude: 9.5
Sex: 9
GEF: 9.5
After that it was time for me to go home, I said my goodbyes to James (who looked like the two girls drained every drop of life from his body) and went home.
In general I had a blast, passing the time between the session was a bit hard, but I managed. I had three session and they were all excellent. IMHO I would give PHG a 9.5 out of 10 (no 10s, sorry :). This is a place that truly is great!
Keep up the good work guys!
Bye
M
PHG is surely one of my favourite stops in Europe. I had the pleasure of meeting Marcious (sp?) during my visit and really enjoyed the fact that there was another English speaking visitor.
I spent a total of 9 hours, arriving around 16:00 and staying until closing. The club has a different vibe than the two previous clubs I had just visited in Frankfurt (FKK World and The Palace). Very laid back, great service from the girls and staff, and plenty of beer.
I had three sessions, first with Sammie and Leona toghether was one for the memory bank. These two moaned, groanded, licked, sucked and fucked me to a very happy finish. I spent about 75 minutes total in every possible position I could think off with two girls. The finale was with Leona sucking me while Sammie sucked my juevos at the same time, holy shit guys, what a experience.
The next session found me with a very erotic Indonesian/Italian girl for a great GFE in one of the outdoor cabins. The wind was blowing hard, quite a sensual sound, very "Romantica" according to my sweet dark vixen. She worked me over and wanted me to stay with her for the rest of the night, but I had some final plans of my own.
Towards Midnight I found Sammie alone, had to go one more round with her and she did her best to give me a good send off.
I was whipped, took the taxi back to Krefeld and crashed hard.
Will surely make PHG a regular venue from now on.
Regards,
James (Carnal and Lanrac)
Sunday, 18 April 2004
Landed in AMS, late afternoon, finished dinner and decided to check out PHG, after reading all the positive reports on here. It was raining intermittently and the traffic was rather slow and hence it took almost 3 hours to get to Grefarth/Oedt. It was about 11:00 PM, when I arrived there. It sure is a pain to find the place, even with navigation.
Once inside, I paid the EUR 50.00 and explored the place. It is quite a nice place outside, although the bar area is quite crowded and not ventilated properly. It was nice to be sharing the shower area in the back with the girls, as it was very informal and encouraged physical contact with the girls.
#1 Magda from Poland:
Very enthusiastic performer, although language skills in English is quite limited. Good BBBJ, although CIM and anal were not available options. DFK was done, although without much interest. Overall rating: 7/10
#2 Victoria from Brazil:
She was rather sleepy, as it was 00:30 by now. She had a sinus infection, which made her sneeze constantly and somehow spoilt the magic for me. In any case, average BBBJ and CG. Half way through, she wanted to include one of the Thai girls, but I refused as it was only 15 minutes to closing time. Overall rating: 6/10
Could someone clarify if the club actually closes at 1:00 AM or is the last order at 1:00 AM? When I left at 1:00 AM, a few customers were still hanging around at the bar. So, I was not sure about this. Overall PHG is good value for money, but cannot compare with the FRA area clubs for talent and/or facilities. If you are already in the area, it is a good choice for a relaxing evening.
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
Closing time is closing time. They do not mess around much in Germany and the staff will surely start moving you the door. The bar area is most likely the last stop for the regulars and probably get alittle lattitude from the management before they have to leave for the night. Most of the girls are quite exhausted by about midnight, you can see it in their faces as they congregate at the bar towards closing. Kind of like a last call.
Too bad your experiences were not better. Go with the girls that have been reported on and your chances of a GFE are much better. Ie. Leona, Sammie, Vera, Ive and a few others. Those thai girls looke appetizing but very stoic so I passed. Sammie and Leona will rock your world.
Regards
Carnal1 aka Lanrac
Day 1, Wednesday, April 14.
Around 10am went down to pick up my car rental with a navigation system. Drove to Wiago and arrived at 4:15pm. There were five girls and three was very pretty with nice body. One of the girls I recognized was Jessica, a tall blond from Germany whom I had met last year. I asked the bartender if Samantha or Christina was still working here and she said no. Bummer, these two ladies were the most attractive one there. Christina, a blond from Russia, was the best. Her service was the best that I had ever encountered and she was the reason why I spent all my time at Wiago last year. I decided to go with Jessica again and the session was pretty good. I think there will be more girls available and selection would be better on a Friday or Saturday. This will be my last visit to this club on this trip. I still have time to visit Happy Garden, Oase, World, and Palace.
Cost 115 euro, including entrance fee.
Day 2, Thursday.
Arrived at Happy Garden around 1pm and there were about twenty girls. Twelve ladies I would consider to be gorgeous, five very pretty, and three were average. Since the weather was warm and sunny, most of the girls and guys were outside. I usually don’t go up to a girl and start a conversation with them when there are a lot of people around. I just wait for the girl that I like to pass by or motion them over if we made eye contact. When she comes over I would ask her name and where she is from. My preferences are eastern european women.
Took my time and finally decided on Stella, a tall gorgeous blond from Poland. I notice she does not look around and make eye contact with the guys, but always smiling and talking to the other girls at the bar. Later, as I was standing near the patio, Stella came and sat at the table in front of the sauna. I went up to her and start a conversation. She spoke decent english and was very friendly. In the room, I extended the session to one hour since her service was gfe(french kiss, fingering, ball licking, and allow daty). I did oral on her which she seemed to enjoy very much. After the session we just relax and I asked her about Rada. Stella told me she has gone back to Russia. I was going to asked her about Sammy and Leona but I could not remember their name. Stella even offer to locate them for me if I do remember. What a nice gal.
Cost is 75 euro, plus 5 for tip, +50 euro entrance fee.
Camille is a petite blond from Russia who barely speaks any English. She performed an average bbbj, only light kisses, no fingering, and does not allow deep penetration since she is so small. Otherwise the session was good and she had a tight ass.
Cost is 50 euro.
Ilsa is a tall dark blond from Poland who doesn’t speaks English. I was attracted to her because of her looks. She never smiled and would sometime sit by herself. I was up for a challenge, but it got the best of me. In the room there was the language barrier and she seemed distant, but she did her best to get me off. The session was ok.
Cost is 75 euro.
Left at 7:30pm the place had a lot more girls and customers.
Day 3, Friday.
Arrived at 5pm and the place was rocking. More than thirty girls and about twenty two were gorgeous. Most of the girls were hanging around the bar and the men were outside. I was going to see Stella again but she was not there.
Katalin is a tall blond from Hungary, who speaks good English. She seemed friendly and always making conversation with others. This girl is an animal in the room and she likes it hard and rough, especially doggy style. I had to oblige to her request but ended up very tired and sheet-burned on my knees. I extended an hour with her and it was a great gfe session. We were sweating so bad that we had to take a break and got something to drink. One time during missionary we went at it so hard and bang her head against the wall. She said she’s ok and to keep going. Katalin is very vocal during the session. We had the outside cabin and with the window open I was afraid we might attract attention.
Cost is 75 euro, plus 10 for tip, +50 euro entrance fee.
Katalin told me Sammy is the girl with the dragon on her right shoulder. I tipped her the next day for the info.
Ellena is a very tall girl from Russia who does not speak any english. She has very short brown hair. She saw me standing near the front door and came over when I wave at her. In the room she was gfe and the session was very enjoyable, even with the language barrier. She uses hand signal to get the point across. She even asked if I wanted fran-total, but I turned it down.
Cost is 50 euro.
Day 4, Saturday.
I decided to save the best two ladies that I have read so much about for last day. I have been looking for Sammy and Leona for the last two days but did not know who they are until Friday night.
Sammy is a tall blond from Germany, who speaks good English. She always seemed busy. I was sitting near the office door when she walked by. I call her name and she turned around. She said she has to go clean up and come right back. She looked so beautiful when she return and I did not hesitate to ask her to the room. This girl is fantastic and I wish I had met her sooner. In the lounge area she seemed very quiet and shy, but in the room she is totally different. Sammy is an animal in bed. I think this girl love anal sex more than vaginal sex. She kept moving my hand down there to that spot and if my hand was not there then she would play with it herself. The session was total gfe.
Cost 50 euro, plus 50 for anal, and 10 for tip, +50 euro entrance fee.
Leona is a blond from Russia, who speaks decent English. She loves to French-kiss and licked me all over. This girl is tight all around, especially that ass. I squeezed and spank that ass throughout the session. Leona is a natural blond and has a thin landing strip to prove it. She is a total gfe girl who goes out of her way to please you.
Cost 75 euro, plus 25 for fran-total, and 10 for tip.
Rating 1-10.
Face Body Service
Stella 10 10 9
Camille 9 8 7
Ilsa 9 10 7
Katalin 9 9 10
Elena 10 10 9
Sammy 10 10 10+
Leona 10 10 10
I had a great time at Happy Garden. The facility was very clean and the staffs were great. The crew of six constantly goes around in picking up towels, glasses, trashes. Two of the ladies, Melanie and Maggie, are very pretty. If they were available I would gladly book some time with them. The seven girls I saw at Happy Garden have natural breast, which I love. These girls can easily be in Playboy magazine.
I never had the chance to go to any other club near Frankfurt like I had plan. I was going to stop by World on my way back to Frankfurt on Saturday night, but it was past midnight when I was near there. I decided to cancel since I thought they close at 1am.
Mr. James Bond, if you are on this board, Leona said hello and Sammy send her kisses. Sammy told me to kiss you myself, but I said it’s never going to happen.
Fan,
Amazing report!!!
Leona is Czech, not Russian.
World is open until 5 AM, but after midnight it drops off.
Hope to read more posts from you.
Peter
James Bone (Bond) chiming in to say thanks for the messages from my dear little blond hotties.
Regards,
Lanrac aka. Carnal1 aka James Bond
Hi Fan,
Great report. One thing I love about the FKKs is the fixed price structure and girls that do not expect tips. The hassle free environment just adds a new dimension to the whole experience compared to other establishments of similar activities.
That is why I always get a little annoyed when I read about the tips. Please do not spoil these girls into acting like American waitresses that get annoyed when they do not receive their 15-20% tip.
When the service is great and you feel the urge to give tips, rather extend the session and pay double or go with the same girl again later, give her compliments, tell her you will speak/write highly of her or something like that.
Member #1980
05-05-04, 00:58
Hi The Fan,
How far away PHG from Frankfurt? How long it will take to drive there from FKK Oase? How much for entering charge? Please advise.
Thanks!
CBGBConnisur
05-05-04, 02:58
I don't know about that, I was in Atlantis last summer, and some of the women expect tips for extra services or even good service. There was this one South American woman I remember who demanded and extra 50 Euros for a bareback blowjob and to kiss. This happened to a friend of mine at Oase where one of the ladies charged extra for bbbj. But anyhow the Ruhr area clubs are better than the Frankfurt clubs in that the women usually don't pull stuff like that. Even in Bernd's its pretty straightforward, although some women will charge for extras. Usually most Ruhr FKKs will offer a standardized pricing scheme that includes French kissing, BBBJs, and fucking in all positions. Some women will ask extra for cum in mouths, anal, etc.
Peter,
You are right about Leona being from Czech. I did asked and she told me from another town instead Prague. I told her I was in Prague a few year back and all the ladies I saw walking around the city were thin and attractive.
I do not tip the girls at Oase, Atlantis, or any of the other club I have been ton since the price structure is higher. Frantotal +50, anal +50 to 150, and another half an hour is +50. At Happy I was only charged frantotal +25, anal+50, and an extra half an hour only +25. The session with all of the girl, except for Camile, Ilsa, and Ellena, went a little past the time allowed. Therefore I consider a 5 or 10 euro tip is not that much.
CBGB,
Girls should be asking extra for CIM and ANAL and even if they don't men should be paying it. Part of the fair pricing scheme awaits that the men pay the fair price of their own volition. If they stay 45 minutes they should pay the hourly fee. If we expect the women to be fair we should be fair too.
If you ever get charged anything other than the fair price complain to the woman at the bar. Don't be loud, just be factual. Say what service you got and what you payed, if it is other than the set prices the girl will be called to give her side. If she overcharges you she will be told to give you the money back. If she does't do it, the club will give you the money back and deal with the girl on their own (if it happens often she will be asked to leave, recently 2 girls were asked to leave). This is clear at PHG and Wildenrath, and pretty much given in most Rhein/Ruhr clubs.
I want to complain about Member #1980. Please take the time to read through the posts a little. There is adequate info to hotels (your other question) and there is plenty of info on the pricing scheme at PHG in this section. It really bothers me when people just post the questions rather than do any research on their own.
I think there is some confusion in CBGB post between tips and extras.
I have to agree with Chivaz regarding tips. This issue has been discussed many times already here, and recommendation is that tips should never be given. German don't give tips in FKKs; as you are in Germany, courtesy dictates to follow their rules. As Chivaz says rightly, if you're happy with the girl, just take her again (or extend your time).
By tips, I mean the 5-10 euros that The Fan says he gives to the girls in addition to the standard pricing system. Nothing to do with the extras to be paid for additional services, which the girl tells you upfront.
I was at PHG the night the two girls were asked to leave.
It created quite a buzz at the bar. You could see fangs come out as the manager told the girls sitting at the bar what had just happened. I never quite understood what happened but your the last post tells all .
Sayanaro
I also have to agree with Chivas regarding tips. Five or 10 extra Euros might not sound like much, but this might encourage the ladies to pressure the clubs to raise the per-session prices. They can say "They already give me that much anyway" as justification.
If this does happen at any club, then look for the regular German customers to campaign hard for the club to maintain the pricing structure by keeping us foreigners out. Do we want this? I think not.
When in Germany, do as the Germans do. If they don't tip, then don't tip. Simple as that.
My M.O is to treat the girls with some respect, kindness, and mutual affection. If they understand English I always flatter them both before, during and after the session. This behaviour gets me more smiles and good service than any tip would in the FKK environment. No saying that, in the privat type clubs of Amsterdam and Prague, a small tip is generally well accepted (not expected) and does pay dividends on repeat visits.
This whole tip thing is interesting. Out of laziness I will tell a girl to keep the change if it is less than 10 E for instance, no need for her to run all over the club trying to change a small note.
My .02 Euro's
I wonder if I might respectfully point out that the statement: "Germans never tip!" is not 100% true.
Whilst it may well be fairly accurate to say that, in the FKK context, most German clients stick to paying the standard session prices without tipping, I have myself observed Germans to tip FKK girls on occassion. For example, the last time I was at PHG, I remember that while I was undressing in the locker room, just next to me a fairly well-to-do German man, in his late 40s/early 50s, handed one of the girls 80Euros (a fifty, a twenty and a tenner). She said: "I'll come back with your change." But the man just smiled and waved his hand sideways back and forth and said "Macht nichts." She beamed back and kissed him and went off with the full amount. Sounds like a rare example of a German tipping...
Also, outside of the FKKs, I have personal experience with German tourists on a daily basis. They tip me moderate to semi-generous amounts almost every day. Sure there are times when I do not get tipped by Germans, but most of the time they do tip. In my experience, Germans are some of the most consistent tippers in Europe. Certainly better tippers than the Brits, Belgians, Dutch, Danish or (no surprise here) East Europeans! Germans are second only to the Swiss in their generosity, at least when they go on holiday.
Just my 2 cents...
Ortos,
We are talking only about Germans not tipping in FKKs.
I fully agree with you that, as tourists outside their own country, they are very generous, and this is exactly what Arnie points out : When someone is in a foreign country, he should do as the locals do.
When the Germans are in France, they do as the French do : They tip. When the Germans are in Switzerland, they do as the Swiss do : They tip generously. So when we, foreign tourists, are in German FKKs, maybe we should do what the Germans do there : Do not tip.
I would hate to see girls starting to wait for a tip from me, because I'm a foreign tourist and other foreign tourists give tips, and look at me (and, more important, the local customers) as a "cheap" guy if I don't tip.
Jim
Guys,
I would like to post my not so good treatment at the club. Twice I went out to the club friday evening with a friend and was not allowed to enter. The lady at the door acted stupid as if she didn't speak english and let other locals enter right in front of us. Saying something like its a party. Two guys came out and confirmed no party inside. Now I wonder was this just screeing based on looks? My origin is from india, but not the dark type, fair and decent looking. I have had no similar problems at World or Atlantis.
Any info on as to why this should happen?
Cornelius
GandJim:
Exactly. We North American types run the risk of being seen by the ladies as soft touches: we are less accustomed to getting good service for such a favorable price, and, due to the language barrier, less likely to complain to management in case of bad service or unethical behavior. As such, we're more likely to throw money around without thinking about the long-term results.
The ladies who see enough of us come through the doors will begin to recognize us, and the more unscrupulous will try to exploit us. (I've had experience with this: a lady at one of the Frankfurt clubs tried to charge me 30 EUR extra for kissing. I politely told her to take a hike.)
If too many of us allow tipping/rip-offs to become a pattern, then yes, the ladies will begin to expect it from us and the situation you've described will become a reality. At that point, you can bet that the locals will petition the owners to keep us out and the owners will oblige. After all, who's more important to business? The locals who come in every weekend or the tourist who comes in once a year?
Yeah, okay, someone didn't have the exact amount and told the lady to keep the extra rather than run around the club trying to get change and bring it back. Better still to be educated about the prices and have the exact amount of money on hand. I really believe we should bend over backwards not to upset the order of things. After all, the clubs belong to the Germans. We're just visitors.
Cornelius:
Sorry about your experience at PHG. It happens. Once, three of us showed up on a weekend day. The racial mix was two caucasians and one Filipino/Vietnamese mix. The lady took one look at the Asian fellow and told us that he could not come in. But he's been here before, we explained. Not this time, said the lady.
We think that it had less to do with his race and more to do with his demeanor and choice of dress. He wore a sullen look as well as a dark knit cap. I think he reminded the lady of a gang-banger. The last time we showed up, he wore no such cap and got in without a problem.
If you yourself appeared unthreatening, then the problem was with the lady who happened to be on shift when you arrived. Some are more liberal than others. Maybe you should try to arrive when the club is less busy, perhaps on a weekday morning or early afternoon.
CBGBConnisur
05-19-04, 18:44
Most of the locals usually spend fairly modestly compared to visitors and people from out of town. The reasons are obvious, we don't usually have flesh banquets like these back home and for such low price per ride. 50EU for a half hour with BBBJ from a 20 something hardboy is a steal, back where I used to live you couldn't get a crack ***** for this amount of money.
As far as racism, Germany isn't very racist though it depends upon who you are. A black or hispanic person from North America won't have too many problems in Deutschland. In fact, German women like both, since the exotic factor works with many German women.
Most of the women in FKKs are Eastern European and can be a little bit biased.
There is a door check at PHG, if you look gaudy- gold chains, outlandish gangsta clothes, or are Arabic or Turkish looking- based on commonly encountered behaviors and rudeness among members of these groups which spoil it for many, , or exhibit raucous behavior or appear drunk, you will likely be denied. Dress conservative and act gentlemanly and you will be admitted.
Beffen
I was there many times recently and these are my suggestions:
- Nadia, german, blonds shoulder lenght, slim, nose piercing, english speaking
- Miriam, curly hair, brown-blond, german
- Sabine, german, black hair, young, not so tall
All of them offer good service.
Bye.
I saw Linda and Veronica yesterday. Linda is Mexican, a bit on the heavy side in the hips (as is common with Latinas), with a great smile and really nice tits. Excellent kisser, a good BBBJ, and a nice massage at the end. Her friend Veronica is a tall, dark-haired Bulgarian with an excellent body. Although her kissing wasn't up to the standard set by Linda, she delivered an excellent session. Both girls had passable English.
Overall, I was not that impressed with the selection of girls. I was scratching my head wondering how some of them made a living but I guess it comes down to building good relationships with regular customers to get past past the issues of physical beauty. A good attitude trumps physical beauty although it's hard to generate trial business without the latter.
The famous Sammy was in the house but I didn't session with her as she didn't appeal to me that much. It might have been a mistake as I was talking to another guy that who sessioned with her despite the same reservation and told me afterwards, "The Internet is right!".
Sammy is gorgeous, no question. A body that belongs on a NY fashion show runway with legs long enough that look like they can wrap around you twice.
I like her DFKs and the fact that she's aggressive in the room where you get one helluva sweaty workout with her. What I don't like about her is that she's a nonstop moaner. Real or not (it's kinda "fakey") it get's a little annoying after awhile.
Small price to pay tho...
My second posting on this forum after months of lurking. I am Brit living near Arnhem who (after bad punting experiences in the UK and the NL) is curious and fascinated by PHG. Does anyone on this list travel down to PHG from the Arnhem area? Fancy sharing travel costs / company??
Langsuan Man
07-05-04, 08:24
PHG FOR DUMMIES
Start point is the intersection of A3 and A66 in Frankfurt.
Proceed North on A3 for exactly 217 kilometers (approximately 56 kms from Köln and approximately 26 kms from Düsseldorf) and at EXIT 6 take A40 West towards VENLO for 28 kms exiting at KEMPEN.
After exit make a left and go straight ahead for 3.2 kms to a traffic light which is KEMPENER AUBENRING. Make a left and proceed straight exactly 6 lights / 6 kilometers. Turn left at the 6th light / 6th kilometer which is OEDER STRABE. Turn left again 1.8 kms after the light which will be BUTZENSTRASSE. (The first intersection left turn) then IMMEDIATELY make a right into the first driveway and then another quick right into the parking lot. Planet Happy Garden Sauna Club will be on your left behind large hedges.
Coming from Amsterdam get to A67 going East towards DUISBURG. (Will become A40 in Germany). Exactly 15 kilometers after the border your exit will also be KEMPEN and you will also make a left after exiting.
Discussion: Don’t understand why all the mapping programs (German and American) make it so difficult. My only concern is that I did not travel the route at night so I am not positive that all 6 traffic lights are working at night, therefore I have also given the distance in kilometers. I have also given you the names of the streets but the street names are not necessary since at night you will most likely not be able to read them.
I went to PHG and after I found it I then backtracked to find the easiest route, not necessarily the shortest one, trying to minimize the number of turns and changes in direction. For instance you could make a left at the 5th traffic light but that would require you to make a right at Butzenstrasse but then PHG would then be at the end of the road and easy to miss. The route I have given puts PHG at the beginning of the street thus minimizing the chances of getting lost. Plus all of you turns are lefts until you get to PHG. Conversely, all of your turns returning to the Autobahn will be rights.
Langsuan Man
@Langsuan,
Now you told us how you got there, how about telling us how you liked it...
Here is the beginning of a FAQ to Happy Garden which i never finished. The directions on how to get there are complete though!
Preface : This Club FAQ follows the same format as Parksauna Wegberg Wildenrath FAQ since it has the same author. At This point I must thank Laursone, one of the most active Planet Happy Garden customers for his help in putting this FAQ together and ensuring that it is accurate and up to date.
Table of Contents
How to Get There / Directions
Parking
Hours of Operation
Prices
Contact Areas
Atmosphere
Customers
Atmosphere
Meeting the Girls
Food & Drink
Cleanliness
Girls Behind the Bar
Best Times, Worst Times
Girls, Girls, Girls
Extras
Miscellaneous
1. How to Get There / Directions
PHG is located in a small industrial park in the middle of nowhere between Krefeld, Kempen, Grafrath-Oedt, St. Tönis / Vorst and Viersen-Süchteln. Might be best to have a Taxi-Driver show you the way. Everyone that I have met has gotten very lost looking for this place the first time. I ended up going home because I could not find it. The directions below are good, but expect to drive past it at least once. The best map is available [url=http://www.kaleus-clubindex.de/kaleu/deutsch/detail.php?area=Viersen&file_name=happy-garden]Kaleu’s Clubindex (http://www.rheinforum.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141). At the driveway to the Industrial area there is a large sign with a number of the firms listed, at night you can notice the PHG by ist lights
Adress: Planet Happy Garden, Butzenstr. 41, 47918 Tönisvorst, Tel. 02152 / 519103
(1) From Koblenz / Mönchengladbach: Take the A61 towards Venlo until Exit 6 Süchteln. At the end of the exit turn right towards Viersen-Süchteln, continue down the hill (Warning: Radar trap at the town sign!) to the 2nd set of lights, where you take a right and follow the street to the end of town towards Vorst / Krefeld. At the next set of lights turn left towards Oedt, after a couple of Kilometers, turn right at the church in the direction of Krefeld / Kempen / St. Tönis, at the 1st intersection (no set of lights) turn right towards Krefeld / St. Tönis and after 30 meters turn right again. Then bear right until there is a sign for Guest Parking at PHG.
(2) From Köln: Take the A57 towards Krefeld, at the Autobahn Crossing Kaarst on the A52 (Towards Roermond, Mönchengladbach) until Autobahn Crossing Neersen (Exit 10) continue on the A44 (Towards Krefeld), Exit 23 Willich-Münchheide turn left onto L361 / Anrather Strasse (Towards Tönisvorst); after Tönisvorst turn left towards Oedt (via Reckenhöfe), 30 m before the next intersection (Left towards Oedt, Right towards Kempen) on your left is the Industrial Park where the PHG is.
(3) From Düsseldorf (alternative to the Köln way(2)): Take the A52 to the Neersen Crossing (Exit 10), take the exit towards Krefeld (A44) but do not go onto the A44, rather take the exit towards Neersen. At the end of the exit turn left towards Neerse after the 2nd set of lights turn right towards Grefrath / üchteln /Anrath, after appr. 12 km in Oedt turn right at the church towards Krefeld / Kempen / St. Tönis, the rest is under (1)
(4) From Ruhrgebeit: Follow the A40 (towards Venlo, Neukirchen –Vluyn) until Exit 5 (Kempen), take a left towards Kempen. At the 1st set of lights (before the McDonald’s) turn left onto the Kempener Außenring, at the 6th set of lights turn left towards Oedt. After ca. 2 km turn left towards Krefeld / St. Tönis, the rest as in (1)
(5) From [Eindhoven / Venlo[/b] via the A40 / E34 from Geldern / Straelen (L39): Exit 3 (Wankum / Grefrath) take a right towards Viersen / Grefrath (This is where the way from Geldern / Straelen / Aldekirk starts), after ca. 8 km take a left at the 1st set of lights towards Krefeld / Kempen / Oedt (B509), at the 4th set of lights take a right towards Oedt, after appr. 2 km take a left towards Krefeld / St. Tönis, the rest under (1)
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If you have problems give them a call and have them explain the way.
GPS-Coordinates (not liable for accuracy): 51° 20' 3" Nord, 6° 23' 57" Ost, lt. MS AutoRoute ca. 51° 33' 45" Nord, 6° 39' 92" Ost (If you happen to be in the Airforce please do not target this place for bombing, it would be a shame to lose it).
Public Transit: Closest Train Stations are Krefeld, Kempen and Viersen; There is an hourly buss (66) from Krefeld Trainstation and Viersen-Süchteln (M-F until Midnight, Sat. Until 9pm, Sunday 4x), the Busstop is Graverdyk. Walk a couple of hundred meters back towards Krefeld to the intersection then take a right and you are there.
Taxi Can be called from PHG. Takes about 5-10 minutes and will cost you about 40€ to Düsseldorf
Bankmachines can be found in Oedt near the Church or in Kempen on the Inner-Ring.
An extensive list of the Hotels in the area is listed in Römerforum (http://www.roemerforum.de) under "Mitfahrgelegenheiten", "Hotels in der Nähe der Clubs" (Registered Users Section).
2. Parking
Ca. 40, with Closed Circuit Video, hardly visible from the street. It can be full in which case it is adviseable to park a couple of metres down the path in the Parking Lot of the Disco Halleluja (Usually closed), otherwise you can use the parking lot of the industrial park. The parking spaces directly in front of the entrance are reserved for the Handicapped (see pt. 6. Ambience).
3. Hours of Operation
Monday – Saturday: 11AM – 1AM, Sundays and Holidays: 3PM – 1AM. Entry until Midnight. Closed: Christmas Eve & New Years.
4. Prices
50€ Entrance, which includes all drinks and food (see point 10 Food & Drink), full use of the facilities (which include a large sauna and outdoor deck) including unlimited towels as well as use of a bathrobe and sandals. The entrance fee is paid upon entry, and you pay the individual women immediately after leaving the room. You have to get your sandals out of the shelves yourself. There is not tour planned, but the place is pretty self explanatory. When you leave please put all the stuff in the receptacles intended for them. This means there are hampers for the towels and bathrobes, and a big tub with antiseptic where you can deposit the sandals. The locker room is in the middle of the house between the main contact room and the Night Cafe/Sauna area. This means that it is a high traffic area. There are 2 sets of showers towards the back and the main meeting area is towards the front. Men wear bathrobes, women wear lingerie.
5. Contact Areas
According to Willy there are at least 4 contact areas. If you have been to any of the bigger clubs (ATL & BHH) you will think that this is being very generous. The main contact area is the bar at the front of the building. It is a long bar where the men seem to sit on the stools at the bar while the girls are lined up against the opposite wall. This place is not very wide, and to get through you have to say excuse me a lot and lightly brush by a number of girls. Then there is the Night Cafe at the back, which is made up like a nice cocktail bar. Willy considers the round table in front of the Indoor Sauna to be another area, but I consider it to be part of the Night Cafe. He is the expert and says that this table is a great place for real men to exchange war stories. He must know. In the summer there is also a quite large terrace where you can hang out. If it is a little cooler at night they have two kerosene heat lamps which make it quite pleasant. The main contact area is the bar mentioned at the beginning, this is where 90% of the women hang out. This is also where the video games are.
6. Atmosphere
PHG is a free standing bungalow in an industrial area that used to be a Couples Club. It has been in its current carnation since 1993, when it was one of the first clubs of this sort (together with Gelsenkirchen and Grimbergstraße). The changing room has 104 lockers and can be accessed from both the front and back rooms, which causes it to be relatively well ventilated. There are 2 bathrooms, 2 showers (with 4 heads each), a shower stall (intended for the girls), 2 pretty large saunas (one indoor, one outdoor), 18 rooms throughout the house plus 6 garden huts (heated). There is a (wo-)manned bar and a self service bar (Night Cafe). In the Night Cafe there are comfortable chairs and tables. There is also a tanning bed (costs money), a cigarette machine, 3 video games. There is a Patio with tables and chairs when the weather is good. Ambient music is piped throughout the house, but in the bathroom in the entrance it is classical. On the TV in the contact room Fashion TV is always on, but without sound.
Rooms: Varying sizes, from tiny (7,12) all the way up to Orgy Sized (17). Except for two all have a window, some also have a TV (if you just want to find a girl to watch TV with go to an old age home, don’t go here). There are no extras like a whirlpool or such, but almost all rooms have a dimmer, so you can really make it romantic. You won’t want to borrow any decorating tips for home, but the rooms are adequate.
The Cigarette-Machine (the stuff will kill you, and the money on this filthy habit would be better spent on your other filthy habit) is in the Private section, so you’ll have to ask a girl to get them for you. Willy would appreciate it if people would smoke less because it really makes the bar area smokey.
Aside from the showers and the Night Cafe all of the important facilities are on one level and easy for people with a handicap or in a wheelchair to access.
7. Customers
As with all FKK’s this place is also frequented by filthy *****-mongers like you and me (just seeing whether you are paying attention J)
Primarily German, but also Turkish, Dutch and increasingly some Asian guests. Anyone who seems dirty or drunk is turned away at the door. Many customers come in larger groups..
8. Atmosphere
Willy, who really loves this club and spends an inordinate amount of time there, says that this place offers a unique atmosphere that he has never experienced anywhere else so that it feels like a party and it is really easy to make contact with other guests and get into conversations. I feel almost the exact opposite about this. I find the tight and crowded atmosphere makes me want to find open space and run away from other guests. I have gotten into conversations with unknown customers in a lot of clubs, but PHG doesn’t elicit that feeling with me. Willy is this places most frequent customer and obviously he enjoys it here. It is sort of like a bar in Düsseldorf or Köln, if you like that sort of atmosphere, you’ll like it here. Because they have so many rooms and because the number of customers has been declining there is hardly ever a wait for a room key.
9. Meeting the Girls
You meet the girls anywhere in the club, but mainly they hang out in the bar. If you have any special requests youshould check the availabilty and price before you get to the room. These girls know what you are there for so asking them whatever you want, they have heard it all before. There is no public or couch action at this club. After the session you go to your locker, get your money and pay the girl directly. The girls will not approach you at this club, so if you are interested, you have to initiate contact.
10. Food & Drink
There is a breakfast buffet set up in the Night Cafe until 2PM (or as long as it lasts), at 6 – 6:30PM (Weekends 7:30 – 8PM) there is a warm dinner buffet later at night there is a fruit plate. Based on how quickly the food is gone you would think that most people come here just for dinner. If you happen to be in a room burning off some calories when dinner is served, there will probably be none left for you when you get out. In the summer there is a Grill Party on weekend nights. At 10PM the pizza guy delivers two pizzas. The Drinks: Non alcaholic beverages are available at the bar (Which is always manned), while alcoholic beverages are self-serve in large glass fronted refrigerators in the bar area and Night Cafe. There are a number of different beers for you to choose from. You can also order food in if you want (pay yourself). There is the possibility to order a bottle of Champagne, but it costs 300€ and hardly anyone ever does
Peter
Lover Boy #2
07-06-04, 01:44
I think you are right, everyone gets lost the first time! A friend of mine spent 3 hours driving in circles after I gave him very explicit instructions. My first time, I got lost too, and I was very familiar with this area. I got out of my car and asked an elderly man working in a local field if he could direct me. He asked me what I was looking for and I told him I was a squirrel looking for a "nut". I think he could see how frustrated I was. He started to laugh, came over to my car and went with me to the front of the place to show me where it was. It was only a very short drive. I told him that I would like to pay his entry fee, he told me that his wife would kill him (I could see his was not into the hobby at all), and I took him back to the pony field. Without this guy, I would probably still be driving around!
Just to make info complete, here is a cut and paste from a German Forum about hotels near PHG:
PHG
Hotel Haus Sittard
Rheinstr. 6, 41749 Viersen (Süchteln)
Tel.: 02162/ 6077
Fax: 02162/ 77442
Bettenzahl 26 (10 EZ, 8 DZ)
EZ mit Du/WC incl. Frühstück 38,- € ohne Frühstück 35,- €
Kegelbahn, Tagungsräume (20 / 30 / 50 / 70 Pl.), Parkplatz Ruhetag: Montag
Höhen-Hotel Gehring
Hindenburgstr. 67, 41749 Viersen (Süchteln)
Tel.: 02162/ 7277, 7278
Fax: 02162/ 80359
Bettenzahl 25 (6 EZ, 9 DZ)
EZ mit Bad/Dusche/WC 90,- / 130,- DM
DZ mit Bad/Dusche/WC 140,- / 180,- DM
Tagungsräume (15 / 20 Pl.), Garage, Parkplatz
Hotel-Restaurant Haus Berger
Lobbericher Str. 20, 41749 Viersen (Süchteln)
Tel.: 02162/ 6127
Fax: 02162/ 979994
Bettenzahl 14 (1 EZ, 6 DZ)
EZ mit Bad/Dusche 60,- DM
DZ mit Bad/Dusche 110,- DM
Tagungsraum (20 / 26 / 120 Pl.), Saal (120 Pl.), Garage, Parkplatz
Ruhetag: Montag abend, Dienstag (Hotel offen)
Hotel Gartz
Tönisvorster Straße 35 41747 Viersen, Süchteln
Tel. 02162/ 6067
Alle ca. 10 km vom PHG entfernt
Haus Vorst Kuhstraße 4 41918 Tönisvorst
Tel. 02156/ 7047
ca. 8 km zum Club
Hotel Haffmans Markt 12-14 47929 Grefrath
Tel. 02158/ 9166-0
Grefrather Hof Akzent-Hotel Am Eisstadion 47929 Grefrath
Tel. 02158/ 4070
Hotel Schumeckers Hohe Straße 36a 47929 Grefrath
Tel. 02158/ 3888
alle ca. 4 km zum Club
ETAP Krefeld
Hansastrasse 30
47799
KREFELD
GERMANY
Tel : (+49)02151/ 62 89 62 0
ETAP Willich
Jakob-Kaiser Strasse 5
Gewerbegebiet Muenchheide II
47877
WILLICH
GERMANY
Tel : (+49)02154 42 94 65
Preise: Einzelzimmer ca. € 35.---
Doppelzimmer ca. € 42,---
beide ETAP's ca 25 min vom Club entfernt
ETAP Hotels
Hotelverzeichnisse der umliegenden Orte:
Hotels in Grefrath
Hotels in Kempen
Hotels in Krefeld
Hotels in Tönisvorst
Hotels in Viersen
Hotels in Willich
Langsuan Man
07-07-04, 22:10
Peter
"Now you told us how you got there, how about telling us how you liked it..."
Did not go there to monger but had business in the area (Venlo) so thought I would go by PHG and try and give directions that were a little less confusing. (Which, IMHO are more simple, ergo PHG for Dummies).
Langsuan Man
I think Langsuan's dummy guide to PHG is well taken for first timers driving to PHG, especially for those newbies driving first time in Germany. He kept track of the number of Kilometers on the trip odometer and counted the number of traffic lights and number of turns instead of trying to remember the street names and follow those obscure route signs such as L361, B509, K.--, and the like. I remember my first time driving there. I followed the direction posted by Peter. I also had the printout of the mapping directions from different internet map sites. At first glance, those directions sounded relatively simple and easy to follow by looking at the map. The problem became apparent when I drove there and discovered that those road labels and exit number signs didn't seem to literally exist. Either they are placed far away from an exit or hidden some where in the corner. For instant, when the printout mapping instruction said "follow L379 for 2km and turn left to K13". I was like "huh! how the hec I know it's L379 if there isn't a sign saying so." Coming from Koln, I don't recall seeing the actual sign of "Exit 10" on A52 or "Exit 23" on A44 as I approached the exit. I don't think I ever saw the sign "L361" or "K13" on the street. Yet, I could clearly see L361 and K13 on the map. I was glad that I also followed the town/city names instead of just those street numbers.
One other important point I'd like to add to what Langsuan has made is that when you drive to PHG the first time, as soon as you find the place, don't go in there immediately. Instead, you should immediately backtrack to the road where you think it causes you to get confused or lost. I know. I know. We all want to get laid as soon as we get to the heaven gate and worry about how to get back later. Right? That can be a big problem when you leave PHG later at night and start figuring out how to get out when you can hardly see the street names and signs. When I found that place, I backtracked immediately. I literally spent an extra hour and half to drive back and forth even up to where I got off Autobahn A52 just to familiarize myself with the roads there. I basically kept practicing driving to this place. (After all, I don't know when I'll be driving back there again since I don't live in Deutschland.) I memorized the number of traffic lights, counted the number of turns, and kept track of the distances in Kilometers. When I left at night, it was so damn dark. Because I had already driven there couple times, I didn't even need to pay attention to the street names and look at the map. I simply followed what I remembered and got out easily. When I drove there few days later, I had no problem finding that place. I guess those practices really paid off. Sweet!
One last thing for the first timers, when you try to find this place, try it in the morning on a Spring/Summer day. If you get lost the first time as expected, you'd still have time to dig yourself out before it gets dark. When you get lost, just think of it as if you're taking a tour around the country side when the weather is nice and warm. Hey, there is always first time for every thing.
Have fun, stay cool, and get laid…
One little item of Advice. Be very carefull driving around PHG after it closes. The local Police do wait across the street from the Parking lot waiting for the club to close, watching as you exit to see if your impaired. Making alot of U-turns in the middle of the night may attract alittle attention as well. Ask Beffen1, been there done that Huh?
Saturday, July 3rd-Second visit ever to PHG.
My first visit to PHG was several months earlier and only one of the women I was with then was still there, Lea. The first time was a completely enjoyable experience including DFK and a full 30 minutes. This time she wouldn't kiss and was rushing the session. Not sure if she is becoming jaded or was just having an off day but I wouldn't repeat based on the second performance. She is from Russia and tends to wait at the first table by the door to the bar.
I was planning on a 3 woman visit and I wanted to see the night shift so I decided to relax for a while on one of the outside lawn chairs. At the Frankfurt area clubs, especially Oase, I've found that once I take a seat, I'll be accosted by a series of women, many of whom think no means yes. I must have jinxed myself as I was just thinking how nice it was that I could really relax for a while as the women can't approach the men at PHG when a member of the 20-20 club walks up. By 20-20 club, I mean she is 20 years to old and 20 kilos to heavy. Due to her heft and age, I can see why she has to aggressively pursue customers but NO MEANS NO. She left after a good 5 minute pitch promising to see me later.
After a short nap, I went into the bar to see if anyone new had arrived and a good number of new women were there. One in particular really stood out. While most of the women there are rather dour between sessions, this woman really lit up the room just with her smile. It took a while to get her into a room as she was booked solid for a while but it was worth it. Her name is Dilara. She grew up in Germany but is Turkish. She is early twenties at most and is absolutely gorgeous. The topper is she loves her job. She treated me like a long lost boyfriend even though we knew each other for all of 5 minutes before we went to the room. She said she lives near Cologne so hopefully she'll be there the next time I'm in the neighborhood.
After Dilara, I was drained, both figuratively and literally. She removed any desire for another woman that night and it was close to eight when they serve food so I decided to wait for that. While waiting, Miss 20-20 tries again. Where 'no thanks' should have sufficed, it again took over 5 minutes to convince her that no means no. The food was a collection of salads, breads, and what looked like the roasted hind quarter of a cow. Whatever it was, it was very tasty.
If you are ever in the area, I highly recommend this club. The only downside here is that this is not an FKK club. Outside the room, the women are always dressed, albeit usually scantily. Other than that, I believe PHG is as good as anything Frankfurt has to offer.
Just to put to bed the PHG doesn't let in Dark Skinned Customer debate. I was recently there with a close friend of Indian Origin, had no problem getting in. Even talked to the bar lady about it when I left, and she said that it is BS. She does choose who gets in, but it is like the door at a disco. On that day I saw her turn away a group of 5 GERMAN young men (all under 23). Looking at them they were dressed a bit flashy and young macho looking. That coupled with the fact that they were a group of 5 were sure signs they were not getting in.
Don't go in large groups, and don't act Macho, and I cannot imagine that you will have trouble getting in. If they don't let you in accept it and deal with it.
Peter
As a newbie to this forum, I agree with Peter. Also as a newbie to the FKK scene (with 3 visits so far), I have never had any problems because of my ethnicity ( which is oriental, or chinese for those that know the difference), or otherwise. Appearance, ie dress and behavior, is what makes the difference, i think.
Anyways, what I am interested in is that there has been no postings on PHG for sometime, any reasons? I was there a week ago, and still have not been able to identify Sammi or Leona. Can anyone tell me how to identify them? just ask any of the girls?
Cheers
Paddyo,
This is an English forum, so there tends to be a lot of posts about the Frankfurt area clubs, as that is where most are living or fling into.
If you can read german I would advise you check out www.rheinforum.de and if you can read dutch www.hookers.nl, I would say at least 30% of the reports on both those boards are about the PHG. It used to be 50% but now that the GT has opened it has gone down a little.
Leona is white blonde, and has a tatoo on her shoulder, and has a bit of a dumb look on her face, like the wife of Casey Kasum, who used to play the wife of Carla's ex husband on Cheers. I put a picture of Jean Kasem down at the bottom. Leona is around 24 years old, so she doesn't look as old.
I don't even know who Sammi is, as legendary as she is on the boards. I have never approached a girl by that name, so obviously whoever she is, she doesn't blow me away from the look alone. I anticipate she is a little more full figured, remember I like really tiny girly women (Size 26 Jeans are what I like).
Peter,
Many thanks for the info, especially your description of Leona, and I should now be able to recognise her when I get there next.
I have been to those websites that you mentioned, but my german and dutch language skills are such that I tend to get myself totally confused :-), oh well.
The few times that I have been to FKK clubs, I have gone alone and not out of choice, but because I do not know of anyone else that would want to go. I would prefer to have some company, to compare experiences, share info and tips, etc; after all what else could you do in between sessions? Are there any others that think the same way? and that there is a better way to enjoy our hobby?
Paddyo,
Leona is indeed white blonde but has a tatoo on her right buttock- I do not remember one on her shoulder. She has pouty lips and a great ass and legs and A cup breasts. One of the most affectionate cuddly kissers I've ever met. Leona has not been around for a couple of months now.
Sammi is very tall and thin with long legs yet incredibly curvy ass with natural C cups, long blonde hair and a supermodel sweet German face. She is up for anal and threesomes with Leona (missing in action) and Anja. You did not get attracted to her probably because she was busy all the time you were there. Only 20 years old, she acts like a porno queen in the room and a giggly girly afterwards. Sammi works almost every day. Try and dance with her just once.
Beffen1- former threesomes partner with Sammi and Leona
Went to PHG for the first time last weekend and had a session with Michelle. A nice looking brunette. She said she was from Holland.
Nice BBBJ and CIM. She was very eager to sell, maybe a little to eager. But all in all very nice session.
I noticed a strange thing she mentioned after tasting my specimen, that she could taste the last meal from the taste of the cum.
PHG was filled with many girls from the former Soviet Union countries.
I liked the location and it was not as difficult to find as I feared. As long as you know it is behind the Tennis Courts you will see it easy.
I was there on friday early and it was about 20 girls and 20 guys already at 12.00
Nice place and nice atmosphere although I prefer GoldenTime in that district.
paddy-o,
On the German and Dutch forums there are sections to arrange meeting times with other people from the forum in the clubs, or to carpool.
A number of members have pm'ed me or other people from the area to see whether we could head out together. It is often enjoyable to share experiences, but you can also just try and get in a conversation with soem people at the clubs.
Peter
I really like this FKK. This is may be the most suitable FKK to go to with a newbie (like a good customer for example). As in the category FKK with bathrobe policy instead of the more intimidating towel, PHG is probably the one offering the most quantity (so choice) and the highest standards in regard of the facilities. Yet, the first time I have been there, I have been ripp offed by one of the girls (wich usually nevers happened in FKK). She was a stuning young turkish babe with a perfectly curved and firm body (I rate her as a 9). The 30 min session was very good including kissing and BBBJ. But at the end, as I hadn't discussed price before (wich is usually not necessary in FKK), she asked me 100 Euro: 50 for FS and 50 for BBBJ. As it was my first session at PHG and as the service was very good, I just paid. Does anyone else have such experience, and what to do about it?
CBGBConnisur
09-21-04, 20:42
What is the name of the girl? Usually you should agree on the price before you have the session with her.
I don't remember her name, else I would have mentionned it. But again, may be my mistake, but I never discuss price in FKK, as it is supposed to be the regular session (30min FS including BBBJ). I have never experienced any misunderstanding about it before. I also don't notice other customers discussing price before.
Routard,
PHG is very clear on their pricing policy. If any girls makes up her own prices complain to the woman behind the counter. Explain how long you were in the room and what services were offered. She will check with the girl if she says the same time and service. If there is a discrepency on time they will chekc out the sign in and sign out time of the key (usually take off 10 minutes from that time for coming/going. If the girl charged too much they will make her give the money back, if she won't the house will refund you the money and you can believe the girl will not be there much longer. From what I have expereienced, witnessed and heard, at PHG they are on the side of the cutomer about 80% of the time. Wildenrath has the same policy. I have only ever complained once when a girl asked for 150€ for 2 hours and I thought it should have been 125€. I aksed her to ask in the office. She came back and it was clear it was 125€. She was pissed at me, but I didn't care, she was so/so anyway, it just took very long for me to figure that out.
If you ever hear a price that seems high, ask how it came about. If you don't believe then ask to have the girl at the counter explain it to you and the girl. That will keep everything honest. One of the many complaints about Atlantis at the end was that they were always on the side of the girls, whcih promoted a lot of girls to make up prices and diverge from established club standard. This is another reason why the Düsseldorf area clubs are better run. they keep better control of club standard.
Peter
Hi,
About possibilities for rippoffs: I have never been ripped off at fkk(and no girl has ever tried). This is in part thanks to a relativetely straight forward pricing structure of the fkk's, but also to a couple of rules I always consider:
a) I never admitt it is my first time at any place. Always research the place (f.ex. here at wsg), and you can act as you have been there before
b) always tell a girl that you are in town for an extended time (few weeks - few months), and you expect to visit often
These 2 simple rules tend to result in a better service.
Of cource once in a while one enters an unknown establishment with no reported experiences from fellow mongers. You can still try to lie your ass off ;-)
Chivaz
CBGBConnisur
09-22-04, 01:48
The normal pricing structure at PHG is usually 50EU for 30 min including Bbbj and 75EU for a full hour.
PHG Pricing
Each 30 minute segment is 25 Euros. The BBBJ option is a one time 25 Euro addition so two hours with BBBJ is 4x25 + 25 = 125 Euros.
Hessen Bub
09-22-04, 07:44
I heard that 25 EUR per 30 minutes incl. covered blow job is not an option any more, minimum fee is 50 EUR for the first 30 minutes including BBBJ. Can anybody confirm?
Hessen Bub
Wouldn't be a bad idea to drop it. The girls hate it anyway, and since Golden Time dropped it, Maybe they should do it to keep the girls from heading there.
I just called the club and asked. The 25€ CBJ & Sex is still available. If a girl is telling you that she is BS'ing too. But if you are asking for that you deserve bad service, cheap f__k!
Peter
Hessen Bub
09-23-04, 07:12
Thx Peter, I would never book a covered blow job if BBBJ was available.
Hessen Bub
I don't know, to each his own.
Suppose you have not had sex in a couple of weeks. You get to the FKK. It only takes you five minutes to shoot your first load. 25 bucks. Good deal. After that, you can get on with it and get the longer package.
So timestimes its good to get the quick shot in, adn I am glad that its available as an option.
By the way, there are many, many places where you can only get covered BJs. Sudfass in Frankfurt is such a place. It would otherwise qualify as an FKK, if it was not for the fact that all BJs are covered, and that there is no kissing. And they charge a heck of a lot more than 25 a pop ... and still stay in business just nicely. (I left many hundreds of dollars there before I knew better).
euro
Lover Boy #2
09-30-04, 07:01
Routard,
Don't feel bad, I know who you were with. She has an animal instict to smell the newer guest to the establishment. She tried this on my cousin, and made a big mistake. He got back some money, but of course they will never dance again. She upcharges whenever she can. If you are firm and explain that it won't work, she backs off.
Lover Boy 2
Thanks for your reaction. May be I even told her it was my first time, as I usually don't watch out when in FKK. But as I was really not disappointed about her service during the session, may be I'll even go again with her and agreeing clearly before about the price. By the way, do you now her name, as I don't remember it?
Lover Boy #2
10-03-04, 05:13
I don't remember but I think it started with an "S" for some reason. I also saw her shaking down a local guy who had a bit to drink. She just wouldn't let go of this guy, insisting that he owed more and really putting pressure on this guy. His face was very red and she was trying to belittle the guy in front of me. She was claiming that he had gotten some sperm on her body and therfore the guy owed extra. The guy was saying that he had to use his hand on his dick because she was claiming her pussy was sore, so who was to blame for the sperm accident. She kept trying to get me involved in the conversation, even though I don't know the guy and the whole thing was none of my business. I finally told her that the guy had a very good argument and she stormed out of the room. I will never go with her, even though she does look good. Who needs the aggravation.
Routard, LB and All,
Do all the guests a favour and report any girls doing this sort of thing to the woman behind the counter. If she is trying to shake you down, say you want the girl behind the counter to make the decision. Most girls who have had a repuation for doing this have been thrown out of the club. I have already witnessed 3 such firings. Don't ever try to scam the girls, but if the girls try to scam you report it.
Peter
CBGBConnisur
10-04-04, 15:01
Some of the girls in this club really have a KKK attitude, an African American friend of mine went here and they first said no to him. He was persistent and pulled out his Passport, Credit Card, as well as his wallet full of Euros and they let him in. I have been getting a better look at Germany and boy outside of FKKs this country sucks.
CBGB, Can I quote your postr in another section
I think homosexuals and feminists are in cahoots, there is a trio of bad influences ruining America. The queers and the feminazis are two of them.
My first question is who is the 3rd group? I have an inkling, but would like to know who you mean.
But of course only the girls in clubs have a KKK attitude.
It really doesn't interest me why you think germany really sucks, but just to humor all of us, what are the many reasons that Germany does not measure up to the penal colony paradise on the other end of the world?
Peter
Lover Boy #2
10-05-04, 04:20
CBGB,
I think you got a lot of good pussy in Deutschland to be complaining about the country and the people. Why say something like this? At the location of your origin (CBGB OMFUG NYC)....now that is where it really sucks. The bitches are all junkie crack heads, there are homeless all over the place and the air/environment is filthy. This is truely where the people suck. You never saw racism in NYC? (Please!). Is this what you found in Germany? I think not. Then you come from this hell hole to beautiful Germany on an airplane, only to complain. You screw in the FKK and then complain. Why not stay in NYC and fuck the crackheads? At least then you will save some money and not want to complain....right?
Peter, Lover Boy,
Why waste your time with this bullsh-t? Look back on his posts. Save your energy for the women who need it.
#2 of a series
As part of a series of reports from a sex week in Germany, I give you:
Day 2 Tuesday: PHG
Arrival.
I'd printed the directions given earlier in the forum, but since my rental car had excellent navigation system, directions weren't necessary. A general recommendation for all who've never used it: Ask for nav on your rental car, it's worth it even if you have to pay extra for it. It will save money in the long run with gas being $6 a gallon.
This was my first experience with one of the 'upper tier' FKKs. I've been to DV in Dusseldorf, and had a good time. THis time I could afford to step up a bit though.
THe facility.
I believe the club has been described in detail before, but I'll provide some observations.
The girls do tend to wander a bit, and can be picked up not just in the bar, but also in the back lounge/sauna/massage area. Compared to a later trip to Goldentime, the girls interacted more with the customers in a 'friendly' way, much like a regular bar. It is true that the girls were not pushy, but I found that they did initiate conversation.
From conversations with the bar woman whilst ordering drinks, several of the girls realized that I spoke English, and began a little chitchat. I was immediatle struck by a tall German girl with long light brown hair with blond streaks (which turned out to be extensions) and a sweet angelic face. She was very nice to me at the bar, and introduced herself as Sylvia from Recklinghausen. She also said that this was her first day working at this club. Our 30 minute session was sweet and enjoyable, GFE sex, but afterword, conversation turned to her personal life. In addition to university classes (do they all claim this?) she works at a doctor's office and was shocked 3 months ago when the doctor visited the FKK she worked in . She's now dating the guy, and claims to want to end the FKK work.
My second session was with a somewhat aggresive young lady who had earlier tried to sell me a 2-girl session with her friend. I really did't want to pay that much for a session, but came back to her later. I was intrigued by her confident attitude, good english and honesty about the club during the 'casual conversation' phase. He name was Ginger, a little heavier than most FKK girls, but not fat, and had many tattoos. I was finally conviced to go with her by the tongue stud, which I'd never experienced before.
GInger was into aggressive and energetic sex, and I really was very satisfied. THis was a great contrast to the sweet, GFE session with Sylvia. This was passionate, athletic sex that I really enjoyed. I suspect that Ginger would be even better with repeated visits as she learns ones sexual limits and desires. I'd go back to her next trip if I could.
Conclusion:
PHG had a more intimate feel than I later was to get at Goldentime. The downside of intimate, though was that the bar was crowded and smoky. But the girls sat against the wall within conversing range, as opposed to the awkward distance between girls and guys at some other FKKs. 150 Euros for two different, but enjoyable sessions.
Tokyo via AA
11-25-04, 13:17
I visited PHG last week. Honestly, when I left Dusseldorf, I hadn't decided whether to go here or Goldentime, but the exit for PHG came up first. The English directions on their website were useful, but the main thing is to note that they don't describe every possible landmark (two roundabouts yes, but several stoplights in-between, etc.). I arrived about 4 PM. Things were busy.
Unlike some of the Frankfurt area FKKs I've been to, the patrons here seemed much more local. Not much English spoken among the guys, though many of the girls did.
Layout-wise, I didn't love the club. 90% of the girls congregate in the bar, which made me feel like "fresh meat" walking the gauntlet in this area. I found it hard to scope out the girls in this format. We all know why we're here, but it feels a bit like window shopping this way. There's no "couch activity"...in fact, very little conversation even goes on. It's mostly "Hi I'm [girl], wanna fu*k".
There was quite a range of girls. When I arrived, I'd say there were 30 girls working. They ranged from 4s to 9s, with most in the 6/7 range. The older/uglier girls, as well as the blacks, were more aggressive. And like anywhere, they had their hangout buddies, so there were two beautiful (maybe 8s) blondes who I never felt comfortable approaching, because they were always together and seemed more interested in each other than going to the rooms. Maybe I should have suggested they both go with me :-0
Some real stunners, too, though they either seemed focused on regulars or on just being wallflowers. Not worth trying.
As for me, three trips to the room. First was with Suzanna, who spoke English but it really didn't matter. She was a hottie in bed, with big (apparently natural) breasts and an inviting style.
Second was with Katarina, a Hungarian girl who was maybe a 6/7. Her English was very good, but her kissing was better :). Wow, what a kisser. She told me that I should hang out until 6:30 or so, that dinner would be served then. Nice.
As 6:30 approached, the supply of girls seemed to dwindle. There were a couple of the hotter girls who I had hoped to save for round three, but they were gone by this point. So, I had the dinner and waited a bit for things to start happening again. They didn't right away, and I started to get a little impatient. Eventually, I made eye contact with Kitty during a pass through the bar. She's Estonian. She didn't kiss, but her BJ was amazing. I wanted to finish that way but she didn't offer CIM. Still, very hot and got me off surprisingly quick for the third round.
Frank White
12-24-04, 14:31
Update on Happy Garden from yesterday evening:
Very disappointing experience since the male/female ratio in the main bar area was at times 8 to 1.
Also among the few girls working I didn't spot any stunners, some even more better described as runners(run away from them!), seemed like the whole regular staff were off for X-Mas.
In the sitting area right off the bar little action going on, some guys were into DFK sessions with mostly eastern europe type girls.
On the plus side to mention the door&barmaid's nice attidude and the efficent supply with beverages.
Resumee: Went off after an hour or so without having been into any session and will avoid it for a while.
Frank
Frank,
Don't want to negate your experience, but Christmas Eve is not good in any club. Most of the girls do have some form of family and do go back to visit at this time of year. Basically from the 20th until the 4th of January is spotty at best in most clubs. There is also nothing a club can do to avoid this.
Peter
I returned to my "FKK Proving Grounds" once again just last week. This is the 4th trip (does not include back to back daily visits) to Happy Garden for me in the last 12 months and I was not dissappointed at all. I had less expectations due to the everpresent reports of girls going away for the Hollidays but alas,, the place was packed both days I visited, as it was the same time last year before New Years Eve when I made my innagural visit with Beffen1.
I drove down from Amsterdam with Wim (Holland Tour Guide) and two PHG virgins. Unfortunately the traffic was quite heavy en route so the trip took almost 3 hours. NO problem since we left early in the afternoon and brought along some nice NL Haze to smoke along the way. We were running late so I told Wim that I did not need to physically check into the Grefratherhof (Sporthotel) before arriving at PHG and we could call them from the Club.
Uppon arrival we noticed a packed parking lot. At first I thought that was a good sign but once we sauntered up to the entrance we soon found out that the club was packed with Icebears. We walked up to the door and waited along with a solo punter, now 5 of us are standing at the entrance like a pack of horny bastards. Two of the newbies had Grocery bags from Albert Heijn packed with food. I was worried that they would not allow us in as a "Group", ecspecially with those guys carrying Grocery bags. The girl blurted out in German that there were too many men already and not enough women "yet" ! I do not speak very good German but she recognized me and Wim so eventually she let us in.
Once we entered all I could see was a sea of White Robes, both at the Bar and the Nacthbar. I quickly changed, showered and went on a tour solo to do some inspecting. It looks like the club did some much needed Remodeling recently. They opened it up nicely by enlarging the Bar sitting area, removing a part of the wall where the girls sit and opening it up like a lounge. They removed the Beer Cooler by the Key room and added new couches that
made a very nice sitting area with a full view of the bar. The lighting, furniture, and bar had been upgraded as well. You can now order beer right at the bar, both on tap and by the bottle.
I wandered down to the Nacthbar and see that they are serving "Cocktails" tonight,, some kind of special promotion. Unfortunately the German version of Cocktails (at this club) was geard towards fruit drinks NOT Whiskey, Vodka, and Gin,,like I like ! Green, Pink, Yellow, Orange,,drinks...Yuck !
I was eager to have my first session so I started to survey the selections. I noticed Sammie staggering around the club with a glazed look in her eyes, Anja is sitting at attention by the bar, Ive is sauntering around, The Turkish Girls are sitting together,, no Thai girls,,no Africans, hmmm. I ended up taking a spin with a very petite blonde girl Alyssa (I think). She was very nice, BBBJ, DATY, Etc.. She would not allow me to CIM so I rode her hard
and had a nice reverse Cowgirl finish.
As I re-entered the bar area around Dinner I noticed a new crowd of girls and less guys. I assume that the Married men had to leave for home and at the same time the Night Shift was showing up. The dinner was typical and so non-descript that I cannot recall what it was ! The fun part is watching the men wait at the Nacthbar for the food to arrive, you can feel the anticipation! Next the girls hover around the railing waiting for their turn to
eat, like a pride of lions waiting for the males to gorge themselves and leave the leftovers to the weak and the females ! The noise level increases as well, like a pack of children standing in a line to ride a ferris wheel, the closer they get, the louder they get !
After dinner I had a chat with Meno (Club Manager) regarding the nice changes they had made to the Bar area. He offered to call the Sporthotel for me to verify that I would arrive (eventually). He is also a Consultant
for a Construction Investment Group in Germany and was quite interested in
the Development Opportunities my comany has in the States. We exchanged Business cards and promised to keep in touch. I did manage to ask where Leaona was and he mentioned that she was still on vacation and was due back sometime soon.l This guy is the nicest of all the Bar managers I have met at any club in Europe,, and I meet them all,eventually !
My last session of the Night was with Ive. She is a local German girl that has a three tiered combination of Sweetness, Innocence, and sexiness that is hard to find at any club. We spent almost two hours in one of the larger rooms behind the Nachtbar, chatting, smiling, licking, sucking, etc.. What else could you ask for. What a charming girl.
As the night came to a close, my friends had all disappeared for various amounts of time. One of the newbies took "ONE" girl to a room for 5 freaking hours. Unbelievable,, he had never been here before,just got caught up in the emotion (along with some X). He spent the entire time in the the room, not leaving even once for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). We noticed the girl coming and going many times for drinks and thought that she was sessioning inbetween his sessions :-) The other newbie grabbed a girl at 00:15, trying to beat the deadline. After Wim and I had changed and were waiting for both of them
we went back to the shower area to find them and see one of them showering with the girl around 01:10,,, shit,,, the bar hostess was getting pissed so we walked outside to distance ourselves from the "ass chewing" that these guys were going to get for keeping the staff late.
Once again,, we are standing in the parking lot waiting alone,, the last guys to leave, waiting for one last punter.
Tschuss !
Carnal1
Owner of FKK Happy to donate part of proceeds to tsunami relief fund, http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3153869a4560,00.html#121
Oosikiman,
The club you are referring to is not Happy Garden. Happy Garden is about 70km away from Dortmund. Must be a small unknown club, as I have never heard of it. But interesting idea.
Peter
I'll be spending as much as a week in the Krefeld area during the 2nd or 3rd week in March and I plan on making a return visit to "Heaven on Earth", Planet Happy Garden!
I've got a few questions that I'm hoping some regulars on the forums here can help me out with...
1) I'm hoping to fulfill every man's fantasy and arrange an hour with two lovely ladies if possible. Is there any kind of protocol for arranging this at PHG? Can I expect any kind of extra charge beyond the cost for the two ladies for the hour? Is there a time where this is easier to arrange than others?
2) I'll be in town on business from the USA, and it's probably next to impossible that my employer is going to allow me to rent a car and it's usually 20 Euros or more each way for a cab ride to PHG from my hotel. Is it possible to rent a motor scooter in the Krefeld area for several days?
3) Finally, are there any fellow forum members who might be willing to accompany me on my adventure to PHG? My schedule should firm up within the next week or so and I'll have firmer dates... I hope to visit PHG at least once or twice during my stay!
Cheers,
Lubert Das
Hope I can help.
First I would advise if you go twice, do PHG once, and Goldentime once!
1) I'm hoping to fulfill every man's fantasy and arrange an hour with two lovely ladies if possible. Is there any kind of protocol for arranging this at PHG? Can I expect any kind of extra charge beyond the cost for the two ladies for the hour? Is there a time where this is easier to arrange than others?
Not if you just want them both working on you. If you want a lesbo show where the two of them touch and kiss each other, then it is 25€ extra per woman. If you want a hard core lesbo show where they really eat each other out, then it is 50€ extra each. I am not a huge fan of 3somes, as they usually mean the girls work half as much for the same amount of money. Try and avoid girls that try and sell you a 3some as they usually want this exactly for the reason I described.
If you see a girl that you really like, you can ask her if she has a friend she likes to do 3somes with. That is the best way to find a good match. You don't want two girls who do not get along.
In PHG I have no recommendations for a good 3some, in Wildenrath I would tell you to go for Monica and Eva.
2) I'll be in town on business from the USA, and it's probably next to impossible that my employer is going to allow me to rent a car and it's usually 20 Euros or more each way for a cab ride to PHG from my hotel. Is it possible to rent a motor scooter in the Krefeld area for several days?
You can take a bus from Krefeld out to PHG. It is bus line 66 and it leaves the main Krefeld Trainstation on an hourly basis until midnight. You can conceivable take a bus both ways, then it will only cost a couple of bucks.
I cannot load the www.rheinbahn.de site at the moment. But there you can see when the bus leaves. The stop you want to get off at is Graverdyk, then it is a walk of a couple of hundred meters.
3) Finally, are there any fellow forum members who might be willing to accompany me on my adventure to PHG? My schedule should firm up within the next week or so and I'll have firmer dates... I hope to visit PHG at least once or twice during my stay!
Not sure if I am in town then. If I am I would be happy to take you to a club or two. PM me once you have your schedule set up. Right now I think I will not be in town though!
My giggest advice would be to check out two different clubs.
I am now planning my annual trip to PHG for this spring, summer, or early fall. I've been there about 20 times over the past 5 years. I had a hard time finding PHG the first time and this year I would like to try Goldentime since I hear it is close. Can anyone give me decent directions from PHG to Goldentime? I will be driving south from Amsterdam. Also, can I get BBBJCIM at Goldentime like at PHG for about the same prices? Due to the fall in the dollar can anyone recommend a good hotel, for a decent price, that I can make a reservation at by internet?
adikt,
Check out http://www.bahn.de for very good Hotel options in German(go to International guest ares. The best thing about this site is that you can reserve rooms without having to pre-pay or committ with a credit card. You can get the same rates or better than most other hotel booking sites, and they have more info on the local, smaller Hotels.. Good booking site if you tend to change plans often.
In and around Oedt/PHG I would suggest staying in Grefrath at the Grefrather Sporthotel. Only a short drive to PHG, nice rooms for around 60E per night including a full breakfast. Ask for a twin/double room if possible with a queen bed ILO single.
Krefeld has some low budget Hotels (Etap, Bayrischer, et..) for under 50E total including Breakfast. Krefeld is a better town to walk around in but I still prefer Grefrath.
Venlo would be another suggestion, plenty of inexpensive hotels there as well
Have fun,,
C1
GT is south and west of PHG. I don't know the rout from PHG, but from Holland, go to Venlo. In Venlo, cross the border and take the roads to Kaldenkirchen, this is also the first stop on the Regional Express train from Venlo Station. Get on the B 221 south about 8-10 km. Their directions are : A61 and A52 directly on the B221 in Brüggen-Genholt. Look on your right on the B 221 before you get to Bruggen for a home and garden center, the club is just north to the Garden Center next door.
GT has a kino where there is alot of public sex, especially when all the rooms are busy. Some girls go topless and there is a whirlpool for light foreplay. Many of the girls do BBBJ CIM "franzosische totale", it should be 25 but ask the girl first. It is 50 euro for the first 30 minutes and 25 each additional 30 minutes. Great place for long threesomes. The entry (50 euro) and prices are the same as PHG.
41379 Brüggen/NRW Heidweg 1.
(35km from Düsseldorf, 12 km from Mönchengladbach, 10km from Venlo(NL) ) Telephonnumber for personal informations:
0049-2163-8894760.
Businesshours:
Monday to Saturday: 11h am to 1h am.
Sundays an holiday 1h pm to 1h am.
e-mail: info@goldentime.de
The cheapest hotel I have found is Stationshotel Venlo for 38 euro for a single with breakfast.
beffen1
Thrill Seeker II
03-06-05, 11:05
i was in phg yesterday, my first fkk experience. i was drooling on the fkk forums seeing how good the places are but never made an effort to drive from holland to germany to check it out.
a friend of mine who was showing me around in asia when i was last there came over for a week and his first request was to go to an fkk.
so having had two desires against 200 kms drive it was a sure thing to go.
i was using tomtom navigator so i did not get lost at all, 2 hours after the departure we were standing at the doorstep of phg.
the parking lot was having roughly 12 cars, mixed dutch and german plates. it was at 16:00
after entering we were shown around the facility, explained the procedures (not that i did not know it by heart from the forum) then we went to the lockers to change.
the shower is very annoying because of the fact that you have to keep pressing it to keep the water coming. other than that very clean and nice.
took a stroll at he nachtcafe, checked out the sauna and the solarium then headed for the bar.kinda loud, disco/techno mix, reminds me of a party rather than a place where dry sexual business goes on. this was already a good sign.
asked for some mineral water and settled down with my asian friend looking at the selection.
after a few minutes spotted olga from poland. she is blond, short hair, blue eyes and very nice tits. she did not speak english so in my primitive german we started a conversation (lucky i watched a lot of german porn movies as an adolescent i knew the german words for action). after having cleared out the details and knowing myself that the first pop always comes fast we headed towards the room.
she gave me a decent blowjob, though she was was sniffing once in a while coz she was starting to have the flu. she did not kiss which is important for me, so the session was soon finished in a nice doggy style movement. i would rate it not too bad for shooting the first pop and learning my own lesson : start with a girl who you can engage in a conversation with.
so i did. i was walking on the corridor of the lockers when i heard hungarian words spoken. i started to chat with the girls who were very much astonished by the fact that someone speaks hungarian here.since i am hungarian it's very easy.
there are 6 hungarian girls working at phg at the moment, and as far as i heard from them half of the management, the cleaning ladies and the bar staff as well as the security also has hungarian ppl in the ranks. hungarian invasion here ? after having some chit chat with the girls i motioned one of them to the couch for some more small talk.
name is milan, she is 28, blond with beautiful tits and long, well-shaped legs. after discussing the issues at home (as it always happen when 2 homies meet) we went to the room as time was calling for it.
totally gfe this is how i could summ it up. she started to dfk me as soon as we got rid of the clothing, which continued in massaging my dick between her beautiful tits (with massage oil on it). after i got really hard i started to discover her body and ended up daty which she pretty much enjoyed tossing her clit around my mouth and trembling constantly. this was the point when i decided that i have to insert my member as she was soaking wet and i was anxious to go in. so i did.(after putting on a condom ofcourse). missionary, doggy, reverse cowgirl and the end was near. i ended up coming on her beautiful tits. very well worth the 50 eur i paid for the half an hour session. she got me a towel and a glass of mineral water before we parted.
it was getting late, food was reportedly imminent, majority of the guests spent the time between 7:30pm and 8:00pm in the nachtcafe waiting for it. it arrived shortly after 8:00pm, a lot of ppl queuing up for it like hungry wolves. a lot of ladies sneaking in the queue with "ladies first" but nobody bothered ofcourse. food was good and after having recuperated i started to look for my next partner.
in fact i did not have to look for anyone, as one of the hungarians approached me as i was sipping my mineral water on the couch in the bar, next to the entertainment boxes (find the discrepancies between the two pictures in a given amount of time - very entertaining).
she (name is zsuzsi) soon sat on my lap and started to stroke my chest which created a flow of blood towards my member. zsuzsi is tall, long legs, mid sized tits, reddish-brownish hair which is short, and big black eyes. attractive to summ it up in one word. after having had some chit chat to warm even more up we headed towards a room.
there was only free space outside in the bungallows, i did not mind as i did not even know they existed.was freaking cold outside so we rushed to the bungallow. she was cute in bed. she said she was kinda embarassed due to the fact that he is doing it here with one of his homies, this was melted by the good, gfe sex we engaged in. she gave me a fantastic blowjob, while motioning her pussy so i could always access it with my hands. she did deep throat which i would not expect due to her slender, fragile figurine.(i surely don't know how she could take it all in but she did). then i decided to explore her body, turned her over so that she could lay down on her belly and started to kiss her body. she was very well enjoying it and by the time i got down to daty she was wet already. she was a bit ticklish down there but excitement took over and soon she was moaning like hell.
insertion time i decided : missionary, sideways (beautiful legs), doggy, cowgirl. then back to missionary where started to masturbate. okay, why not :) we got on the top at the same time (or she was faking, i could never know). at the precise moment the light went out in all of the bungalows. we bursted out in laughing at the possibility that our vehement action could have caused this. laying there in the afterglow, exchanging kisses and the light was still out. she had her phone with her so dressed up at the light of the screen (that's what i call ambient :)). only outside i noticed i spent 1 hours with her. so i payed her accordingly. 75 eur.
she stayed with me for the rest of the night, chatting at the couch, giggling and fondling like old acquintances eventhough i told her 3 is enough for me per night. when at 11:00 pm i decided to look for my asian friend and leave she gave a good-bye kiss in a cutish way, wrapping her arms around me.
so we dressed up, handed back the keys to the small deposit box on the wall then were buzzed out by the receptionist after making sure that we had a good time.
so to summ it up : was a very good experience, i will sure come back and visit other clubs on my own.
Robert Munich
03-09-05, 18:19
Just to share my latest experiences :
I visited PHG twice in the last three weeks and it was pretty satisfying.
The first time, I went with Katharina, a blonde busty Hungarian. We were into action very quickly, she liked to suck me and allowed DATY without hesitating. Since she enjoyed it, we then had fantastic sex together. A good GFE which made me come back again for a second time.
( Later that night, I had a petite Russian - Lina - who sucked pretty well, but the rest was poor. Thus no recommendation at all ! )
So, I had another night in PHG yesterday and it was even better than before. I like this relaxed athmosphere where you start talking to a girl, you get to know each other before the final question comes up - so you have some background for your decision.
Well, Katharina was not there, so i started talking to a Jeanette, a German/Morokkan mixture. We had a long discussion on several issues before we went for the first round. "Chemistry" was perfect, so the action was enthusiastic for both : Sucking, licking, caressing, fondeling, 69 ....... climaxed into a furios adventure in various positions. It was hard not to come too early !!!
A second round later that night was much more into smooth caressing due to myself not really being ready again. However, it was another very private half an hour in one of those small garden houses.
Ciao - Idefix
I'll be in the Krefeld area for a week starting Sunday April 3rd. If any fellow board members are in the area and would like to join me for a trip to Planet Happy Garden, or perhaps Goldentime, or even Parksauna Wildenrath, please send me a private message!
Otherwise, I'd be happy to hear some recommendations for which ladies at PHG I should look for. I only speak English, so any tips on which girls speak English would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Lubertdas
Funny thing last night. I am currently on a three week tour of SE Asia, Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket and had a very vivid dream of being in PHG ! Searching for the elusive Sammie and Leaona trio !
I was amazed how after spending three weeks having sex with Asian Ladies that I would have a dream about PHG. I have been to quite a few FKK clubs and Euro Sex venues (Amsterdam, Prague,Budapest, Barcelona, etc..)and never once had a dream about any of them (Including PHG).
Something must be calling me back,,
Planet Happy Garden on Thursday 4/14.
I arrived at PGH after 4pm and there were more than 20+ ladies and 25+ men. Above half of the ladies were attractive. I want my first session to be with Leona or Sammy. I saw a girl who I thought might be Sammy but was not sure until I saw the tattoo on her back. As I was about to approach her, she got up from the table and disappeared for more than half an hour. When she returned I asked her to join me in the room. In the room she told me she had a headache and went to take a break. That explained why the session was not as good this time compare to the last. It was not all bad since she was up for anal.
Sammy told me Leona no longer works at the club. She now works somewhere close to Stuggart.
After dinner and sauna I had a session with Sandra, brown hair girl with blond streak. She is from Poland who understands decent English. This girl is a pleasure to be with and a total GFE. Sandra is a screamer, which she did throughout the session. We went at it for an hour and she told me she climax three times.
Friday
I was planning to go back to Frankfurt Friday morning but decided to go back to PHG after 6pm to see Sandra again. I did not dine on her yesterday since I did not know how many guy she had been with. I saw her and told her to get an outside cabin. We did 69 and she tasted great. The session was better than yesterday.
I decided to have another session before driving back to Frankfurt. I had saw Sylvia yesterday and she always smiled whenever we made eye contact. Sylvia is a tall skinny blond who speak good English and is also from Poland. Her service was GFE.
I saw Nadia, blond tall German who speaks good English, on both days and she look pretty as ever. I had a chance to see this beauty back in February and had a great time with her. Did not repeat this time with her since she was quite busy.
I left at 9pm and headed to Frankfurt.
I was there this week and I can confirm Leona is working at FKK Colosseum in Ausburg.
Sometimes (very seldom) she is coming back in the north (PHG or others clubs in the area like Yinyang in Roermond).
Bye.
Monty Burns II
06-30-05, 21:29
Hi folks,
I'm planning a short trip to PHG and Goldentime this summer, is early august a bad time to visit such clubs? Been there around january, march and april and the lineups were impressing.
Should I go around mid july instead?
Thanks.
No difference.
I am not promising that it will be great though. Both dates are in the middle of the school holidays in North Rhein Westfalia, so there will generally be less guests (they have to go on vacation with the wife and kids making it harder to find excuses to go to an FKK). this means that in the middle of the summer in all clubs there are less guests, which also means some girls take this as a chance to go on vacation.
If you hit both PHG and Goldentime in that time you should still find plenty of women to turn your head.
Peter
Monty Burns II
07-04-05, 11:07
Thanks for your reply, Peter.
I think I'll give it a try anyway, possibly avoiding Mondays, Tuesdays.
Even though I'm afraid that stunning supermodel-looking romanian heartbreaker called Claudia wont be in PHG by that time.
CBGBConnisur
07-07-05, 04:00
Monty, I am going to interject a little in this conversation, at one FKK club during the first week of August, I met the most amazing woman in the world. A few years later during the late fall, I saw the quality of women at the same club drop dramatically. It's luck of the draw really.
Went here yesterday adn was quite disappointed. The woman are nowhere near the quality they once were. I have never been the biggest fan of this club, but this time I really had trouble finding something to fuck.
I came at 5pm and left at 9:15 on a Saturday, so it should have been at the top of its game. There were plenty of men, but the women were sort of missing. About 20 when I came and probably about 50 when I left.
I did manage 3 rooms which were decent, but there were not a lot left on my to do list.
Mona Lisa - 23 Cameroon. Dark Black girl with long legs, a killer hard body ass which still maages a slight jiggle when she walks. She was fun in the room. I don't really dig black girls, but if the right sort of skinny black girl is around I'll try them out. This girl was really worth it.
Nicole - 18 Poland - I don't usually like them this young, but the body was irresisteble. She has a face so ugly she could sink ships, but her body will bring dead back to life. She is 174 and 47 KG and has the single best ass I have ever seen. She used to be a rhythnmic gymnast, and that body was put to its test. I hated the fact that she kept trying to kiss me with her cigarette stinking mouth and ugly face, I just wanted to fuck her doggy style, and then pull her legs out from under her. I think my hands felt all the way around her waist.
I couldn't find my old faithful Laura when I got back from the room and got some food in me, so I went for a short girl with those mysterious eyes and a hard stomach that kept laughing at me. She turned out to be Lucy - 22 Russian, from my favourite city in Russia "Omsk". Some of my all time greats come from here, and so did she. She turned out to be a great discovery for a first session. If she remains in the club, she might become another reason for me to visit this club.
By the time I wasfinished with all these sessions I was tired and wanted to go home, then I saw Laura, and I have to go to the room with her, she is the main reason i even visit the club. Turns out she was too tired too, so we both were happy skipping our room together. She might be heading down south to another club for a week next week. It seems it is harder to earn a buck in PHG.
The food was excellent, and the music has improved. I just wish they would stop serving the girls cake 2 hours before dinner. Most of the girls could stand losing a couple of pounds.
There was a little red-headed russian named Tatiana. Nice, tight body, excellent skills, perhaps 5' 5-6" and in her late 20s-early 30s. I saw her there 2 months back on a Tuesday, not before and I've not been back since. I'd be interested to see if she's still there.
I know this is a section for PHG. But I thought I should post here also, since GT is in the same area (I posted this in other FKK section also).
I have a trip to Germany coming shortly, and would like to get infomation about Golden Time -- mainly hotels and transportation. So far, the only hotel in the nearby area I found is Hotel Lenhsen in Elmpt. Are there any better hotels in the area (in terms of the transportation logistics). I will use train/bus from Frankfurt, then taxi between the hotel and the club. It seems I need to take a train from Frankfurt to Kolm, then to Monchengladbach, then a bus to Elmpt. Shall I stay at Monchemgladbach or Venlo? If so, any good hotel recommendation? I don't need a fancy place. Just a basic cleanliness would do.
Another question is if I should allocate one more day and check out PHG during the same trip. Would it be worthy of visit? It seems GT is much better place in the region nowadays.
Thank you in advance for your help.
http://www.brueggen.de/hotels.html
Great information about Bruggen hotels. Thank you so much. I need to repeat the question I asked at the other section here also.
I am planning to take a train from Frankfurt to the region. In order to go to a hotel/pension near GT, shall I take a taxi from Velno or Monchemgladbach, or is there a better train station elsewhere?
Furthermore, if I were to go to PHG, shall I stay at the hotel/pension in Bruggen two nights or any good (reasonably priced, yet clean) places to stay nearby PHG? I know having a rental car would solve a lot of problems, but I would like to avoid driving unless it's absolutely necessary.
Dick Rambone
10-25-05, 17:47
Kempen Banh station is close to PHG. Maybe 10 minutes. If you are going to GT or PWS you might want to stay at this hotel http://www.heide-camp-gastro.de/
Kempen Banh station is close to PHG. Maybe 10 minutes. If you are going to GT or PWS you might want to stay at this hotel http://www.heide-camp-gastro.de/Is that a german Saddam?
http://www.heide-camp-gastro.de/pics/big_start_figur.jpg
This pension was recommended by another member also. It must be a popular place for us, mongers who go to GT or PSW.
I checked the map and, yes, Kempen seems to be closer to PHG. But all things considered, I think the easiest option for me seems: 1) take a train ride from Frankfurt to Monchemgladbach; 2) take a taxi to the hotel you recommended; 3) take a taxi to GT; 4) take a taxi to PHG the following day.
I would appreciate if you have better suggestions (such as a good place to stay near PHG or bus between Monchemgladbach and Bruggen, etc). Otherwise, I will make my trip arrangement accordingly. I will be sure to report my experience at GT and PHG.
Dick Rambone
10-26-05, 16:41
I would go from Frankfurt to Wegberg and then go to the hotel below. I think that Wegberg is the nearest Bahn station. That hotel is walking distance to GT and PSW is short bus or taxi drive from there. To get to PHG go back to Wegberg and go to Kempen. Then taxi to PHG. I would not stay in Kempen since the two best ones are GT and PSW.
This club still is a sure heaven of pleasure reliable, and I can assure you after a number of visits. Good quality big choice. Girls
Stay in the Hindenburtg hotel at Viersen 80/90€ a night after your visit.
Hm, all this talk of GT has me interested. I'm not hearing much about PGH these days, and even in the PHG forum! I'm tempted to make a trip down there next weekend.
This, my 3rd visit to PHG, was the first in winter time. Obviously, my first 2 visits were good, or I wouldn’t have returned, but I found PHG busy and very crowed on a Sunday night. The summer patio and garden were closed. The main bar/meeting room consisted of a line of ladies on stools against the wall, a line of men at the bar and a small sofa area of men relaxing. Another room, a bristro/bar, was used mainly for dinner time or men relaxing. With the ladies and men relatively separated, what was missing IMO is the mixing of ladies & men that occurs at most other clubs. I personally like the opportunity for chit chat to size up the “chemistry” quotient. The apparent large numbers attests to the success of this “assembly line” format. For locals, this McDonald’s fast food approach works, especially if repeating with a girlfriend. For tourists like me, the Frankfurt clubs are more the “destination” clubs of choice, where you can literally spend 6 hours plus without any problem. Maybe I’m spoiled with the Frankfurt clubs but I found the average age of the ladies at PHG about 3 - 5 years greater on average. Also, CIM was not available with the 3 ladies I met which is standard fare at most clubs. Overall, kind of a bummer, but I’ll try again in the summer when the garden re-opens.
I found the average age of the ladies at PHG about 3 - 5 years greater on average. Also, CIM was not available with the 3 ladies I met which is standard fare at most clubs. Overall, kind of a bummer, but I’ll try again in the summer when the garden re-opens.What is your opinion on Golden Times just around the corner? Right now IMHO the place is rocking and the youngsters doing CIM are definately there. Have you been lately?
Hm, all this talk of GT has me interested. I'm not hearing much about PGH these days, and even in the PHG forum! I'm tempted to make a trip down there next weekend.I will be there at 01/19/06, report will follow.
I was there on Tuesday night - definitely rocking. Great selection of beautiful sp of all shapes, colors and sizes, good atmosphere, and pretty busy for a wet wintry night. And yes, I can confirm that CIM was definitely available at least with the young beautiful Czech woman that I asked.
Hi all,
I will be in Frankfurt for the weekend. Thinking about Oase one afternoon/evening, Golden Time another. Any preference Saturday to Sunday for one or the other?
What is the travel time via rail/taxi from Frankfurt Hbhf? Is it a day trip distance. Not exactly sure if GT is Dusseldorf based?
Much appreciated the club seems to be "hot" right now and I want to check it out.
S
As someone who dislikes GT for a number of Management related reasons, and sort of likes PHG as good large scale club in the Düsseldorf Area, I cannot stand seeing all this GT talk going on on the PHG thread.
But on to the question...GT is a Düsseldorf area club. I just checked the www.db.de site and see that it takes a train 2:51 to get to Kaldenkirchen from Frankfurt. From Kaldenkirchen it is a 10€ cab ride. The regular cost of the trip is about 65-71€ each way, although with the bahn you can often find deals, like if you firmly book a specific train each way you can get the round trip for the price of a one way and sometimes they have the 29€ anywhere in Germany deal or something like that.
So it is your call whether 3 hours each way (driving would take the same time) is a day trip for you or not.
If it helps your decision the entry charge in the Düsseldorf area is 15€ les than the frankfurt norm, and each additional half hour in a longer session is only 25€ instead of 50€ like in Frankfurt, and extras like CIM are 25€ instead of 50€, so depending on the way you monger you might make the train price back.
i recently returned to the nrw clubs for a two day visit after an absence of 1.5 years due to my addiction to frankfurt fkk's. unbelievably, i only spent 600 euro total on this trip- and that included amsterdam groceries and three nights in the hotel for me and wim. since i am making monthly trips lately, it is time to start budgeting. airfare was another $425 on delta and i had the exit row to myself on both flights and slept like a baby on the way over so i was rested and ready to hit the bricks.
yes, for the first time i couldn't get a gfe session on a trip. maybe i need the nudity and couch action of fkk's to make proper selections, maybe i was unlucky, but all of my five sessions had restrictions and professional attitude, there was no magic moment this time. at phg on saturday jan 14, the ratios sucked most of the day but there were many of my dutch friends gathered there for a reunion so that made the evening a lot of fun nonetheless. i think the manager has improved the smoke situation. the dinner was late, 8:30 pm and caused a major mob scene in the nachtbar, all the men waiting to eat afraid to miss the meal in the room. as for the girls, the comparatively sterile lineup of girls against the wall just looking as you walk back and forth wasn't working for me.
when i did choose, the sessions were cold and sterile. my first, a hard bodied blonde 24 year old polish farm girl named bianca provided athletic sex and very nice bbbj deep throat and ball licking . she had lovely high hard natural appearing but silicone c's but did not kiss or allow much daty, although deep fingering was ok. strange. (1 hour, first session of trip). second was a cute short romanian blonde dana who was shy and distracted in the room, had recently had a child, and spoke almost no english. again, a perfunctory 30 minute session. finally, near closing, i decided to try a cute blonde [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) who was busy all night. the 19 year old german melanie indicated kissing was fine at the bar but in the room made no attempt to provide any sort of genuine interaction and tried to tell me time was up at 20 minutes.
the second day at golden time was no better, although it's always fine to relax with buddies, enjoy the beers, saunas etc and the scenery. see the other fkk thread for details on gt.
beffen
I She had lovely high hard natural appearing but silicone C's but did not kiss or allow much DATY, although deep fingering was OK. Strange. Hi Beffen / P****. Its so strange not to call you P****!
Once again I am sorry to here of the lack of GFE. Can I say that my NRW trips ave been very GFE, with one exception recently at GT, but I walked out on the session with Kiene problem.
One thing www.worldlingo.com tought me, that I always slip in now before going to room is "Kussen sie in zimmer?" (IHAVE SINCE LEARNED IT SHOULD BE "DU") It always causes amusement and has always been respected with a straight answer and a smile - "yes I do" or "No, sorry."
I recommend picking up pices of pidgeon german from that site, because it does engratiate you with the locals. They always get great amusement at your absolutely TERRIBLE german. They think its cute.
The GT Ggirl Rocksana / Ocksana that blew my socks off at Christmas now regularly texts me in Deutsche and I can translate and text back. Its great fun and better than reading the same old porno stories on th emesage board. more productive too. (This is not a lecture - just sharing what works for me)
See ya later,
Mike
Hi Mike,
Sorry, but I had to laugh when you wrote this:
"One thing www.worldlingo.com tought me, that I always slip in now before going to room is "Kussen sie in zimmer?" It always causes amusement and has always been respected with a straight answer and a smile - "yes I do" or "No, sorry."
Because: "Kuessen Sie..." is the Formal, and "Kuessen" is a very intimate thing to do. So it sounds kind of weird not to use the Informal "Kuesst Du..." if you know what I mean.
But as long as you get your point across, I guess it's no big deal.
Btw: Why can't you practise "Kuessen" outside the room first, just to get a taste and make sure the "Kuessen" is the real DFK we all seek, as opposed to a peck on the cheek? That's what we do in the FKKs around Frankfurt, ja?
Ortos
Hi Mike,
Because: "Kuessen Sie..." is the Formal, and "Kuessen" is a very intimate thing to do. So it sounds kind of weird not to use the Informal "Kuesst Du..." if you know what I mean.Thats whay they always laugh, which just prooves what a complete ass I am and how unreliable automatic teaching tools are.
I do know about "Du" but I was always warned not to use"Du" because it can cause offense.
Thanks for the lesson. Got any more? Like when do I use Shiatzi and when do I use Suss? (Sorry - no esset on my keyboard)
Hi Mike,
Btw: Why can't you practise "Kuessen" outside the room first, just to get a taste and make sure the "Kuessen" is the real DFK we all seek, as opposed to a peck on the cheek? That's what we do in the FKKs around Frankfurt, ja?
OrtosThis is actually quite a good point and worth discussion on its own.
With not being a German speaker and with the NRW clubs having less English speakers in them, it is much harder to get a discussion and a "rapport" going first. The Girls also find it harder to judge if they have a "slae" or not I guess. After all, they don't just go around slurping over every guy in the place for no prospect of immediate gain do they?
So it can be hard, when you are struggling with basic phrases, to get intimate. I mean - what do yuo do? Ask, "tiefer Kuß bitte?" and pucker up LOL? It can be awkward and language is such an important tool that we all take for granted.
Usually aswell, because prices are cheaper, the Girls at NRW are visibly less inclined to give the free couch action before. By this, I mean you can plainly see the lack of couch action going on. the girls will sit and chat especially with known customers, but usually thats it, then its the room, the kino or the Garden when its usually all paid. However at €75 for the first hour and €50 per hour thereafter its hard to tell who is paying and who isn't. Its common for Girls to be booked for two hours or so.
So there you have it, English speakers are less likely to get GFE because we are at a disadvantage. Some girls will get smoochy with you beforhand, it DOES happen in GT etc... just a lot more difficult and the dreaded "Schlüssel" question arises typically very quickly as they get bored of you.
Mike
Hi Mike- Thanks for blowing my cover.
Ortos- Of course you know that is what I did, most times I asked about kissing and even stole a few samples at the bar. But once in the room, the kisses stopped. Admittedly there were no introductory DFK as one can find in FFM clubs so I guess I should have known. Just bad luck, my turn for a subpar trip I guess.
One thing about PHG is that when you are closing the deal, you are most always pressed cheek by jowl with everyone else in the bar, people trying to get by, reach the bar, talk to their friends, etc. Not really relaxing- more like a gauntlet. Ten days and counting until I return to the wide open spaces of FFM FKK's. Be there or be square.
beffen
Hi Mike- Thanks for blowing my cover.
I had no idea it was secret - Doh.... I have removed it before anyone else sees.
I will be there too at World. I want to use my nice new shiny red card and flights from Easyjet are like for nothig at the moment.
Mike
Hey Gents,
I made a short trip to PHG last night (Sat.) and must say that I was not blown away.
@Beffen: I also did a dance with Melanie and I would not repeat. Pretty dull session really. She also sang a song about how terrible it is to work at a club where she only gets 50 Euro per half-hour and that most guys give her at least 80.
I had a better time with a big blond from Hungary named Malina (I think that was her name). I would probably have another go at her.
PHG has always been a pretty good place but I was disappointed in both the line-up and the atmosphere; A first for me at this place. Let's hope that it is just a phase.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I had a better time with a big blond from Hungary named Malina (I think that was her name). It is probably MILANA ... very beautiful girl ... a Playboy model type. She was working for 5 years in the select Yab Yum (Amsterdam) before. A pretty good reference !
One thing about PHG is that when you are closing the deal, you are most always pressed cheek by jowl with everyone else in the bar, people trying to get by, reach the bar, talk to their friends, etc. Not really relaxing- more like a gauntlet.
Its way too crowded and has all the ambiance of Grand Central Station at rush hour.
PHG is not the best place to go. There is the bar where the girls hang out and that place is full of smoke. You can go the other bar area where the pool used to be, but eye candy is very rare. It's hard to get some conversation with the girls at the bar. The only conversation I got from that place is "Do you want to f**k me?"
No couch action, no foreplay in public, no fondling. Sure, some girls are hot but everything takes place in the room. They have a 25 and 50 Euro pricing option. And once you are with the girls they usually what the 50 Euro option, if you want the 25 Euro option, that have an attitute and usually don't give you a good service and sometimes rushed.
The only thing I like about this place is the beer is included to make up for the 50 Euro entrance that I paid.
They have a 25 and 50 Euro pricing option. And once you are with the girls they usually what the 50 Euro option, if you want the 25 Euro option, that have an attitute and usually don't give you a good service and sometimes rushed.
Two questions for whomever can help...I understand the rate is 25/25 for each half hour with bbbj being an extra 25. If i saw a girl say two hours would the rate be 125 or would the 25 bbbj charge come in for the next hour?
Also, is the food at PHG decent?
Warsteiner
05-05-06, 19:24
PHG – 1/5/06
Advantages of the club – good facilities, good amount of women available (20+) with several 8’s
Disadvantages of the club – the women can be aggressive and will not always take no for an answer, the rooms and huts are not air-conditioned.
After the disappointment of YinYang I decided to head to PHG to see if the day could be rescued. I’ve only been to PHG once before and this was about 2 years ago but there are plenty of reports on the German boards about this club.
I arrived at about 4pm and there were about 20 cars in the car park. After ringing the doorbell and being let in I paid my €50 and headed to the changing room. I had a quick look in the main contact room and was relieved to see about 15 women several of which were very attractive and there were also some decent looking women in the area by the sauna.
Name: Julietta
Nationality: Italian
Appearance: 5’4”, slim, shoulder length dark hair, B cup breasts
Looks: 8
Attitude: 7
Overall performance: 7.5
Performance type: good BBBJ, enjoys DATY
Languages: Italian and German
Juliette was sitting on one of the stools in the main contact area and after a quick chat we went of to the room. She has previously worked in a club in Dortmund and has been at PHG for about a week. She has lovely big dark brown eyes and is a very sweet girl. She kisses lightly and enjoys 69 and likes to be on top and take charge.
After looking around and having a sauna I noticed a very petite girl with a great figure messing around with a couple of the guests and having a good laugh. I waited until she was alone and then made my move.
Name: ???
Nationality: Romanian
Appearance: short dark hair with purple streaks, 5’0” tall with a very petite figure and B cup breasts
Looks: 7
Attitude: 9
Overall performance: 9
Performance type: great DFK, numerous positions, doesn’t watch the clock, CIM
Languages: Romanian and German
Unfortunately I cannot remember this girl’s name but after a quick chat we went off to the room. She has a fantastic attitude and really gets into the session with DFK and is very flexible and is happy to have sex in any position. After the strains of the last few days I was having a bit of trouble cumming and we spent at least 50 mins in the room but when we went back to the locker and I asked her how much it was she replied that it was just a normal session so €50.
After a sauna and a bite to eat I left the club to drive back to my hotel.
PHG – 3/5/06
I was driving back to the UK but had a few hours to spare before I had to head off and wasn’t really sure whether to visit GT or PHG. After my visit with the Romanian girl I decided to go back to PHG to see if she was there.
I arrived at about 11:30am and there were about 5 cars in the car park. There were about 12 women available but the quality was quite low with about 5 of these women being attractive and the rest showing too much cellulite or beer bellies. Thankfully the Romanian girl from my previous visit was there and after a quick sauna I approached her.
She suggested that we go to one of the huts outside as the weather was really nice and I agreed. Unfortunately the sun must have been shining on the hut all morning as it was about 30oC in the hut and there was no air-con. We opened a window but this didn’t help and even though the session was very good I felt myself wishing for one of the huts at GT, which has air-con.
Again we were in the hut for a good 50 mins and I ended up finishing with CIM and absolutely dripping in sweat. When we got back to the lockers I gave her €75 due to the CIM and expected her to ask for another €25 as we had been in the room longer than 30 mins but she looked at the money as if it were Christmas and was very thankful so she was probably only expecting €50.
If you get a chance to go with this girl you should take it as she is wild in the room and doesn’t expect extra money for a longer session or CIM.
Warsteiner,
I like your reports and you seem to be a nice guy, but why did you cheat this girl?
You were in the room for 50 minutes. You had BBBJ, Covered Sex and CIM. That is definitely a 100€ bill. If you only paid 75€, you shoplifted or cheated her out of 25€.
In all this talk about good service and no chating the customer and whether you should tip or not, I have to be an ass and say that I don't think it is EVER proper to cheat a girl and not pay what you know the price is.
Warsteiner
05-06-06, 20:07
Peter,
I did not cheat this girl! I paid what I thought was fair and was seeing if she was going to ask for the extra €25.
The previous session I had with this girl lasted 50 minutes and she only asked for €50, which means she was definately not a clock-watcher. This session also lasted about 50 minutes but with CIM I paid her €75. After paying her this money she looked as if I'd given her a very big tip and was only expecting €50 even with the amount of time spent in the room and CIM so of I would have given her €100 she would have expected this from everyone. As it is this girl will stay in the room for 50 mins and only expect €50 and even with CIM will not expect more than €75.
If she would have asked for €100 for 50 mins with CIM I would have gladly paid her but as she didn't was I so wrong to only give her €75? I would call this a bargain and the look on the girl's face told me that she was more than happy with €75 so was were both happy. Is this so bad?
I like your reports and you seem to be a nice guy, but why did you cheat this girl?
You were in the room for 50 minutes. You had BBBJ, Covered Sex and CIM. That is definitely a 100€ bill. If you only paid 75€, you shoplifted or cheated her out of 25€.Um, Sorry - but she asked for 50, and he gave her 75. He didn't cheat her - he paid her bill and then some.
This is before all a business, and as she is the seller demanding a price for her services, it's not his job to enforce price guidelines for all vendors, everywhere. Let's be real - "the prices" aren't the prices - they're the guidelines. Some women charge more, others give less services for the same price. That's the market - you pay what is asked.
She may have been a bargain, or perhaps she was also trying to create a better, repeatable relationship, to establish herself in the busy marketplace - any number of possibilities, and Juliette has now a good reputation as a solid provider. Sound like good advertising to me.
The basic fact is it's still up to the girl to set the price and for you to pay.
That's what makes this a business.
Warsteiner is completely in the right.
Public Transit: Closest Train Stations are Krefeld, Kempen and Viersen; There is an hourly buss (66) from Krefeld Trainstation and Viersen-Süchteln (M-F until Midnight, Sat. Until 9pm, Sunday 4x), the Busstop is Graverdyk. Walk a couple of hundred meters back towards Krefeld to the intersection then take a right and you are there.Tried to get to PHG from Krefeld Train Station and discovered that there is no bus 66 departing from the station. The report by Peter is quite old. It seems to the that the bus schedule has changed since then. As far as I understood there is no bus from Krefeld Train Station to Graverdyk.
Drove out to PHG and found it without too much of a problem using gps (although the address i entered was off by a 1/4 mile)...place in right on the intersection and in front of what looks to be a contruction business. Hit the buzzer around noon (thursday) and was informed the club didnt open till 3pm. Ended up heading south and visiting Goldentime instead.
Warsteiner
05-29-06, 11:06
Drove out to PHG ....informed the club didnt open till 3pm. Ended up heading south and visiting Goldentime instead.
Hi Breadman,
Last Thursday (25th May) was a Bank Holiday in Germany so they would have opened on Sunday hours but I'm sure you had a good time in GT.
Should also point out that the bank in Oedt has been closed...drove by, saw the sign and parked so i could get some cash out of the machine. Only to see an empty storefront.
They emptied the swimming pool a while back and turned it into a sunken seating area with buffet and such. Do they still have that? if so why stay in bar area which i agree is as bad as it gets in a Japanese underground. My reservations about PHG is that at weekends unless you are into drinking with your 'kumpels' forget it: some great looking girls have their regulars who clearly pay enough for them to wait around giving every other customer the 'stare' that says 'don't try it chum my cash machine arrives soon': the Dutch men are a problem bringing drugs into the club: otherwise during the week a good time is to be had. Careful which sunlounger you sit on though, made the mistake of taking the only empty one and being sworn at in German.Some fat bastard said it belonged to him! One of the girls explained later the guy came every day....every day!! Kids grown up, own business and a sick wife at home. At Finca there are a couple of guys who go there every day as well! unbelievable.
.. and so did Babylon and so did Bernds.
And there was also a pool at the Red Carpet Club at Herne-Horsthausen.
I guess one of the first things to go when a club renovates is its pool.
I never saw anyone making use of the contact area PHG made out of its pool though. But I haven't also been in a while.. this isn't on my list of favorites.
pools suck!
That is it plain and simple. No one likes them and no one uses them. Oase has one, so does World (they actually have 2) and Artemis does, and the only club in NRW that really has one is Cocoon (Heavensgate has a small one too).
they are dirty, and no one ever uses them, so who cares.
and marlows description of the dutch bringing drugs applies more to GT than it does to PHG in the meantime.
The hard core coke boys are staying at Ying Yang in the meantime to not take the risk of crossing the border.
pools suck!
That is it plain and simple. No one likes them and no one uses them. Oase has one, so does World (they actually have 2) and Artemis does, and the only club in NRW that really has one is Cocoon (Heavensgate has a small one too).
they are dirty, and no one ever uses them, so who cares.
Hey,
I take a dip in the indoor one at World now and then. Not sure that I would feel as comfortable using the one at Oase and I never really missed the one at PHG when the got rid of it.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hey,
I take a dip in the indoor one at World now and then. Not sure that I would feel as comfortable using the one at Oase and I never really missed the one at PHG when the got rid of it.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Yup, I use both of those pools every time. Its great.
After a sauna, because there is no plunge pool, the swimming pool has to do.
No pool = not a sauna club if yuo are really into Sauna that is.
and marlows description of the dutch bringing drugs applies more to GT than it does to PHG in the meantime.
The hard core coke boys are staying at Ying Yang in the meantime to not take the risk of crossing the border.
I was at GT 4 days in a row and didnt see any drug use whatsoever...plus it was raining most of the time so if they wanted to light up something it would have had to been under the patio or in one of the rooms. But i will admit...I wasnt looking for it either...was on the hunt for other things at the time.
I was at GT 4 days in a row Boy was there a huge sigh of relief? When I first saw your report from Golden Time I thought, is this Breadman character for real? Some kind of Superman from another galaxy?
Last club of the trip was Goldentime. [...] I probably sampled over 20 at this club…with only 2 repeats…and didn’t get to try out the other 30 that made it on my list. My belief is that no man can shoot his load 20 times in one day, unless he saved himself for a year or two. With the new info, you "only" did a remarkable accomplishment:) Great work and great reports, Breadman.
Cheers!
On The Road
07-05-06, 18:56
I went to FKK Planet Happy Garden last monday, around 7.00pm. Due of the day of the week I tought the place should be almost empy, but it was crowded! Not less than 40 customers.
Well, I have to say that I didn't had a good impression of the place.
Entrance was 50€, with everything included (good food and free beers) closing time was 01.00am. Good premises and a small pool.
All the girls were in bikini and the ugliest ones were pushy, while most of the most gorgeous gals seems to prefer well known customers instead of new one, and for my great surprise I saw some beautiful girls talking with a group of customers for 2 or 3 hours with no session at all, not even at the end!
By the way, I had three sessions there. Two of them were really great, one disappointed me.
Price structure was 50€ for 30m, 25€ for extras.
First session I had with Yelena, russian, not so young (I think she is in her late 20s or early 30s), but nice looking. Everything was available with her, fk bbbj daty, she was really friendly and passionate.
Because of that great session, I had another one with Svetlana, another russian gal that was a friend of Yelena really young and gorgeous!
So bad this session was not so good, and it was like having sex with a piece of ice! Please, for you satisfaction, avoid here even she is really beautiful!
The last session I had was with Dana, romanian girl 23yo. She told me that she uses to work at the FKK Parksauna in Wildenrath and was there just for the day. I saw that many frequent customers of PS in Wildenrath know her very well.
She is now blonde, petite, with an ass to die for. Very friendly and funny girl, a little bit on the crazy side, but I had with her maybe my best FKK session, and she earned a good tip.
Maybe next time I'll be in that area, I'll pay her a visit in Wildenrath!
YMMV, as usual.
George Assaii
08-03-06, 02:17
I have visited PHG on 16th July and (sorry a bit old). I saw approximately approx 14 girls. 4 german girls, 2 Russians, 1 Ukrainian, 1 Polish, 3 Bulgarians and I am not sure for others.
1 Polish girl from Katowice seems very much isolated from others, having no friends in FKK. She explained that most foreign girls are sleeping in FKK, and have rooms allocated within downstairs. She said that names are mostly fictious names, and most foreign girls works 1-2 weeks. Many of them have experience of baby sitting and girls who comes at FKK like to have small money for luxuary: never for desperate needs.
Now making excuse to her, I chatted with the Russian girl, who said is from Moscow. She speaks fluent English. seems 26-30. She is a good friend of the Ukraine girl, who claimed to be a 28 yo law student in German university, who is making MA. Certainly a bit assertive.
Comming back to the bar area, a slighly plenitudinous German girl, who is 18, was also left alone in the corner without friends. Assuming these isolated girls are not so 'contaminated', so I have selected this girl.
She was saying that she has too much concern on the hygine for BBBJ, but when we got to the room, she started BBBJ. This seems a standard ploy to camoflage herself as if naive fresh girl. She has agreed CIM, which was so similar to the fashion of pornographic scene, it was really exciting. However, after CIM, she just continued the servce, which made me to taste my own residual sperm. Just closely looking the mouse and tooth of her, it was well observed that she seems not cleaned tooth. I stopped the session.
Then comming back, the polish girl was still left alone, so I took her. She was shy, and does not speak English so far. She said she does not allow CIM, but BBBJ and others are OK. So followed the standard sex.
OK: and after the sesssion, I wonderd several points, which I wish to heed advises from FKK frequent flyer.
[1] Most FKK girls accept BBBJ+CIM. It means other client's residual of sperm could be in her mouse. Making deep kisses on her mouse are certainly dangerous in this case? (Some medical paper saids it is not risk unless sperm stays in digestion route, so even drinking sperm is not a risk of HIV)
[2] Most FKK girls allows licking their sexual organs. But most medical papers agrees that contact to the secretion of vigina (body fluid in her pushy) is high risk. Do you intentionally avoid this, or do not bother?
[3] How FKK girls check their health, particuarly HIV? For instance, the famous K5 (in Prague) has standard routine of 3 months check. But FKK girls are mostly new commer every week. Having heared that Ukrain has now highest HIV rate, I am alerted that they are somehow filtered.
[4] Some girls seems really amature. The Polish girl actually did not know how to handle the condom properly. Initially she was trying to inflate the cusp of condom, which is the opposite of best use case. I am bit concerned about these amateur girls, since they could be easily fooled. They are really young without exception.
I would appreciate for general advise. ]
GA
All the girls were in bikini and the ugliest ones were pushy, while most of the most gorgeous gals seems to prefer well known customers instead of new one, and for my great surprise I saw some beautiful girls talking with a group of customers for 2 or 3 hours with no session at all, not even at the end!
This is the only club I've been refused service and it has to do with the girls tendency to prefer their Stammkunde as compared to making themselves available to new customers.
I've been refused service here twice.
The last time I was so frustrated I drove back to Duesseldorf to Dolce Vita and found satisfaction there.
Some of the girls will spend hours with their known customers just talking or in a corner playing video games. It absolutely makes no sense at all that they would go to work and spend their time like that but they do it.
Add to this the ambiance of the narrow contact area and people coming and going in a very tight smoky space - it just isn't my favorite club. There also is no couch action here at all.
Wildenrath is a better alternative as it has a more edited selection of girls, is quieter. I'd wait to hear more about how it is after their last renovation though.
The last session I had was with Dana, romanian girl 23yo. She told me that she uses to work at the FKK Parksauna in Wildenrath and was there just for the day. I saw that many frequent customers of PS in Wildenrath know her very well. She is now blonde, petite, with an ass to die for. Very friendly and funny girl, a little bit on the crazy side, but I had with her maybe my best FKK session, and she earned a good tip.
You will upset the entire pricing structure for everyone if you get into a habit of tipping.
If you are pleased with a girl, book extra time with her.
Prices are meant to be all inclusive prices.
I've been there for my second time few days ago (Sunday).
The only bad thing of this place is that the girls stay with know customers too many time, and sometimes is difficult to take the girl you are interested for.
The place is relaxed, is difficult that a girl rush you, but it takes a second to let a girl approach you when you want. I have had a pair of saunas for relax (I've had a flight, and some km by cars), some showers, and then some nice beers. I've seen a pair of very good looking girls, best ones from Romania. I've been approached by a girl (Ramona, romanian, 20-22 years old), that seems to be a good affair, but while I was talking about buisiness, she ask me to wait just 30 min. cause she had to go for friend/customer that was calling her. Not very polite.
So I turned on a very friendly, and nice Venezuela's girl, aged late 20 /early 30. Good experience, nice company, nice action, friendly talking before and after.
HornySwede
08-22-06, 17:04
my fourth and final club visit on this trip was to planet happy garden on friday aug 18 from about 15.00 to about 23.00.
the location of the club is: n51 20.067 e6 23.943 (wgs 84).
a kmz-file for google earth with the house marked is attached to this report.
web: http://www.planet-happy-garden.info
this club is similar to goldentime in that it is not really an fkk. the girls wear lingerie and no couch-action at all.
one thing that made my visit to phg much more enjoyable than my visit to gt was the weather. which meant that one could spend the time between sessions outdoors instead of indoors.
my first impression of the girls when i arrived where not particularly good. they looked far to much like hardened pros. both regarding their age and the make-up they where wearing. but as the evening went by i saw many more very nice girls. and when i left the party where in full swing with many good-looking girls.
at phg i ended up having only two sessions and both with the same girl. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), from trinidad-tobago. definitly not your skinny little girl, but with the curves in all the right places. just like i like it. the first session was very good and she also seemed to really enjoy the daty. :-) the second session was also very good with a long nice 69 and some quite hard pounding in doggy.
the reasons i ended up doing two sessions with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) where ofcourse that she was good. but also when i where looking for my second girl, i had a short list of girls that i where interested in, but no one else where to be found anywhere. either they where booked or had already left.
my other visits on this trip were pt dorsten and goldentime, see my reports in the appropriate areas.
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hornyswede
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GabrielPontello
09-06-06, 00:48
I made my first visit to this club during the last week of august.
My expectations were poor and I had an amazing surprise noticing than the club was full of cute and nice girls with just some ugly girl.
I spent 1 hour with each of the following girls:
Michaela, 25, romanian, not the best looking girl of the club, but providing a very good service and a very nice person;
Loredana, 19, romanian, one of the most gourgeous girl I have met in my long life, blond and long-haired, a real sex-bomb;
Diana, 24, russian, a sweet lover and a very nice person to chat.
also had a regular session with Alina, 20, russian from kaliningrad, a typical russian beauty.
the atmophere of the club is very relaxing and the service is good.
food is served all day long and the free soft-drink bar is improved by a free beer self-service policy.
for those in that north Germany area, I suggest a visit to this club that is just slighty below the Frankfurt area clubs (that I definetely consider by far the top level in Germany).
Hollandmale
09-17-06, 10:23
I read some mixed reports, whether it's worthwhile to visit PHG.
On the Dutch and German forums, PHG is surely back on track.
A steady 50 to 60 girls recently, lots of pretty newcummers too :).
I was last week in GT en yesterday in PHG, PHG is back on track definitely. At 4 pm already 40 girls and they look very pretty( average rate 7-8). And much more pretty than the girls in GT. ( rate 6)
My first visit there for two years or longer. The club has changed its set-up and I think for the better. The garden is now a pool area with loungers and a bar. This has now become the focal meeting point, instead of the bar inside. Much more a fun atmosphere with one or two of the girls fooling around in pool with the boys. There must have been getting on for about 70 men there. PHG is really the boys club for the Dutch, and Germans out of Düsseldorf. I did hear a couple of American voices and came across a man who was on his way back from Slovenia, stopping off for a day at PHG and then on home to Amersterdam. So that shows you how far people will travel to get to PHG. The women are mostly east European and as always seems to be the case with PHG really stunning, tall and elegant. The owner seems to make a point of picking this type. As for service, well I think the casual visitor probably gets an average deal. PHG is so popular that the girls are spoilt for choice and usually have a list of regulars that they give special attention to - and indeed spend the time waiting for. PHG is known for men coming in groups of two or more and spending a couple of hours in a room with a few girls, drinks and refreshment being sent down to them. So we are talking big bucks being spent. Unlike World where you can have a hundred guests and think the place is empty and the girls clock up incredible mileage roaming the place looking for them, PHG is not large so falling into conversation with total strangers is easy and actually adds to the feeling of being in a very good men's club. In comparison World is somewhat cold.
You pay 50 Euros entry and 50 euros for thirty minutes. You are told upfront that some girls do anal and come in mouth, 50 extra for each. By and large you can't go wrong at PHG. The girls will not spin your through the door, or drop you back on the conveyor belt like unwanted luggage. My advice is to spend the day there, the food is good, the women plentiful and willing to spend time flirting with you before going to a room. Though chat too long and you can go off the boil in my experience. It is the sign of a good club when you learn that most of the women there have been working in PHG for two years or more.
(Sorry - dodgy didgit syndrome, put this in the wrong place to begin with)
PHG is really the boys club for the Dutch, and Germans out of Düsseldorf.
As for service, well I think the casual visitor probably gets an average deal.
PHG is so popular that the girls are spoilt for choice and usually have a list of regulars that they give special attention to - and indeed spend the time waiting for.
In comparison World is somewhat cold.
Hi Marlow,
I realize I keep repeating myself but the Stammkunde get the first choice here and this is why I have never felt at home at this club.
Yes, its kind of like a men's club and it is Gemuetlich because of the buzz of conversation going on in the background. You get the sense people are making connections at this club. Not so at other large clubs.
The stability of the "Frauschaft" as well reinforces the notion that this is a relationship-oriented club as opposed to a transaction-oriented club.
There is practically no couch action. There is nothing for those with exhibitionistic or voyeuristic tendencies.
World may have better facilities but the constant coming and going of the guys and gals on the prowl there can be a little annoying. I myself start to pace when I'm ready for my next session and I have often intercepted my prey as she passes in that narrow corridor leading to the stairway downstairs. If I don't find her there, I act like I'm going somewhere downstairs, hang out there for a bit then come back up the stairs again. Great place to waste some time.
ah, that well know medical condition often seen in FKK clubs known as TTT or to give it the full name, Towelled, Tagged and Twitching. The girls recognise it immediately as a sign that the testosterone has kicked in.
GabrielPontello
09-22-06, 14:08
My advice is to spend the day there, the food is good, the women plentiful and willing to spend time flirting with you before going to a room. Though chat too long and you can go off the boil in my experience. It is the sign of a good club when you learn that most of the women there have been working in PHG for two years or more.
Right description of the nice atmophere in PHG.
Though World is still my favourite club, PHG came up in my consideration thanks to this relaxed atmosphere.
Many customers look regulars and the most of the girls chat with them without pushing'em.
The only weak point in front of the Frankfurt area club is the absolute absence of couch action.
Anyway the place worths a visit.
GabrielPontello
10-09-06, 15:20
After a month from my last visit, the crowd was almost completely changed.
I recognized just few of the girls and heard that many went to other clubs or simply retired from the scene. What a shame !!
Anyway I found Loredana, a very nice romanaian, 19 y.o., with her flowing blond hair.
Great service again.
Then I was with a croatian girl, Susana, saw their best years in the past, but still horny and having a good technique.
For the love that I have for her home country I went with Miriam, a 20something brazilian from Salvador, very good at fuxxxng but not really a stunner.
Last pick was Andrea, a short hungarian/romanian, with big tits, so good in sucking that I could't stop and came in her mouth.
The club still continues to provide good food and drinks and definetely worths a while.
What I don't like is the small space available in front of the large people coming; if bigger, it could surely compete with the big club near Frankfurt.
Planet Happy Garden (PHG) has been on my radar for some time now as it is an FKK club with a reputation for lots of pretty girls, good service and very reasonable (by Australian standards) pricing. I fired up my VW Golf and headed the approximately 1 hour from where I was staying. Armed with Map Quest, I flew up the A roads at 140+ and as always, the last 3 kms were the hardest. What is it about Map Quest and small local roads. It gets too cute and you end up struggling to find your location!!
So after a bit of mucking around, I found the street and you would have thought it was all sorted. Not quite. There are no signs flagging up “Come on in to Planet Happy Garden and meet some sexy chicks”. In fact it is sort of in front and to the right of a set of industrial units (aren’t they always), and eventually all was well. It opens at 11am on a Saturday and I had been a bit slow off the mark due to a long sleep from the day before’s horizontal exercise, so I got there about 12.30.
I rang the doorbell at the same time as another guy arrived. The door was opened by a happy smiling face and we were ushered in. I asked for the English version and she asked me how I found the place. I now know that doesn’t mean “you must be Christopher Columbus because only he could find this new World”, and means you respond “from the internet, and I have come from Australia especially”. This always helps to get the chat flowing and she introduced herself as Tania. This pretty petite little dynamo is an absolute credit to the place (and whoever is the lucky guy she goes home too each night, is a lucky man), as in fact are all of the support workers who were beavering away all day tidying up and getting you drinks. Top marks here. Entry was E50 and for all the food and drink and the access to the beauties, this is super value.
So I decided to sit at the bar for a while and watch the World go by. Tania told me she wanted to go to Australia and I chatted to her for a while. She even pointed out the Australian flag flying over PHG for the 1 customer a year they get from Oz. I pointed out it was upside down but I appreciated they had put it up especially for me (NOT). She gave me the lie of the land and she said there was about 30 – 40 girls already there and more coming. Imagine, for those of you who haven’t been there, a Private movie where all those sexy girls are sitting around in lingerie, beautifully made up and exuding sexuality. This club proved to be the type where the girls don’t often approach you, so the guys have to make the first move.
As I watched, it became obvious that part of the selection criteria for being a PHG girl is that you have a butt that could launch a thousand ships and probably a thousand hard-ons too! The girls have some of the best butts I have ever seen, and those I have only seen in a picture. Every type of girl is here too, but there is a tighter criteria in that they are all very attractive and there are very few “plumper” girls as you often find sprinkled in other places. This may just have been my misconception, but I thought the girls were very good quality.
As always there are the 100% drop dead gorgeous blondes, some of which look like they may be too classy to be big givers. I don’t know if they are or not, but the girls I picked were not those, although they were very attractive all the same and picked for other reasons. But if you always wanted to bonk that 10 girl, you can do it here, in fact you could do two at once in a 3some if your feeling greedy.
By 2.30 I had seen enough and had to lose my PHG virginity so I had a quick chat with a Polish girl called Margita and we went to a room. Unfortunately the chemistry didn’t really work even though she was a great BBBJ exponent and had a nice body for fucking. The room was very hot and I was over-heating so I did what I rarely did, and just went for it. She finished me of in her mouth and I sprayed our bodies ready for yet another shower. We went back to my locker and paid her the E50.
I have to say that I have had more showers in two days than an English summer, and must be clean enough to eat off. The showers here are good. Use the communal one with the slate look tiles and apart from no coat-hooks to hang your robe and towel, it all works well. I then chatted to a Belgian guy in English who normally frequents Golden Times (GT), another A class location, and he told me of the differences between the two. He explained that they both had similar qualities of girls (where do they all come from you have to ask?) but at GT they tend to come over and chat to you for a couple of minutes just to warm you up.
As we chatted, one of those mega sexy butts wandered over and said hello. Her name is Jacqueline and she is from the Czech republic. She is this and has short dark gelled back hair and a super personality. We chatted about Prague (her English is pretty fair, and how come they all say they can’t speak English when they happily can) and she told me she is 21. Her sister also works at PHG and she came over. Her name is Samantha and she is 20. Samantha is a little shorter and not thin like Jacqueline, has curly fair hair and is not so outgoing as her big sister. Dangerous thoughts were now going through my head, as well as a “how come you didn’t get her 40 minutes ago when I really needed you and now I need some time to re-charge”.
I explained I would like to get to know her better in the non-biblical sense, but needed a chance to re-load. She hung around and chatted away which was very nice, kept turning around and letting her butt do some talking, so to speak, and all too soon I said, “I really like you, I want to go to a room, but we need to take it slowly”. Of course this was no problem, and as 1 hour is only E75, there was no financial issue either. I had another shower and she came back with the room key.
The chemistry was fantastic. She is sexy and giving and loved what I did to her and vice versa. The kissing was DFK and full on, and she kept saying “I like you” in her gravelly Czech voice which seemed as genuine as you can get under the circumstances. I liked her too and the sex was top quality, good BBBJ, several positions especially the doggie and lying down style doggy I love, with her sexy butt swallowing my hard-on. Why do girls have those sexy asses. It’s just fantastic. After ages she sucked me and finished me off, once more spraying everywhere. I was in no rush to move so she had a cigarette, I had my feast of passive smoking and eventually we left. I assume I had been in there over an hour and I paid her E100. Now if that’s not value, what is!
The one thing I would warm you about is that if you go before lunch, there is not a lot to keep you going food-wise before the main meal at about 8. By the time it arrived I was famished and the food was good. Washed it down with another Pilsner Urquel and started thinking of a final fling before driving home. My mind was going to a Jacqueline and Samantha happy family outing, but Jacqueline was nowhere to be seen. She is a good chatter and one flash of her butt would be enough to melt most men, so I had a quick chat with a half Thai, half Indonesian girl called Lee, who asked me if I knew what Thai massage was. “I certainly do” was my reply and she was very touchy feely which I like. After about 15 minutes chat, then thought of those oral skills that Thai/Indo girls know had my tent twitching. I asked her to get a key and off she went.
Before she came back Jacqueline came back creating one of those Homer Simpson “Doh” moments. Twice in one day with the same girl!! Not that this was a problem, I had decided to give Lee my full attenti0on and hope that my equipment would be up to the task.
She came back, I said “see you later” to Jacqueline and headed to the room with Lee. Lee knows her stuff in best asian fashion, great BBBJ, sex in several positions, on top, below, on top, below, and eventually off with the condom and blow in to her mouth. She then gave me a very nice massage using more of the baby oil she had liberally used previously on my cock. By the time she was finished I was relaxed and ready for the drive home. I paid her E100 for the 1 hour plus CIM and she was very grateful. Nice attitude. Of course, who did I bump in to in the locker room but Jacqueline who was being paid by another customer.
I wished them both a happy Xmas and headed of in to the night a very satisfied customer. Great place, good services, a lot of beautiful girls….heaven on earth. Will be back.
C1
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Warsteiner
12-19-06, 21:23
Sunday 17th Dec
There haven’t been many reports for this club recently so I thought I’d add this one.
I’d been to GT on the 15th Dec and was disappointed with the standard of the women and also the sessions that I had. I was originally planning to visit Samya on the 17th for their Xmas party but really couldn’t be bothered with the crowds so I though I’d give PHG a try. I’ve visited this club about 4 times in the last 18 months or so and although I’d had some good session I thought that this club was more for locals but I thought I’d give it a try anyway.
I arrived shortly after opening time at about 1:30 and there were about 20 women and a dozen or so men. After being disappointed with the standard of women in GT I was very pleasantly surprised with the quality in PHG. There were at least a dozen women that I would happily have a session with.
After a sauna and a couple of drinks I approached Natalie. She is 23 from the Ukraine about 5’10” tall, slim with B cup breasts and shoulder length fair hair. After a quick chat we headed off to the room.
Looks – 8
Attitude – 8
Session – 9
Repeat factor – 9
Natalie provided a great session with DFK, BBBJ and several positions and gets worked up when receiving oral. The only thing I could fault her for was that she used her teeth a bit too much during the BBBJ but it was still a good session.
Another sauna, a bite to eat and then I sat Valentina. She is half Italian and half Bulgarian, 5’0” tall, B cup breasts, very petite body and shoulder length dark hair.
Looks – 9
Attitude – 8
Session – 5
Repeat factor – 5
The session was very average with no kissing, too much ‘hand arbeit’ but she started to get into the session when she was on top and looking at her petite body with her perfect breasts bouncing up and down made this session worth while.
I was relaxing in the sauna and noticed a girl that had just arrived who was speaking Spanish/Portuguese to a couple of Latin American women. She wasn’t Latin American herself but just the way she looked caught my eye. After recuperating after the sauna I headed off to the main room to see if she was around. I spotted her sitting by herself on one of the couches and approached her.
Lavinio (not too sure about the name) is from Rumania and 5’9” tall, slim with B/C cup breasts, jet black shoulder length hair and has a ‘Goth’ look about her as she uses black nail varnish on her finger and toe nails, has black lipstick and black eye make up. Although she uses a lot of black make-up it is not over the top and she is very attractive.
Looks – 9
Attitude – 10
Session – 10+
Repeat factor – 10+
This girl is wild!!! She is extremely dominant, likes quite rough sex and knows what she wants. She really gets into receiving oral and loves being on top. I had a fantastic session with her and I’m sure I’ll be going back to PHG shortly next year to see her. The session with her is on a par, or maybe even better, than Regi of GT/Palace fame.
Monday 18th Dec.
I was traveling back to the UK on this day but had a few hours before I had to leave so headed back to PHG. Unfortunately I didn’t see Lavinio however Natalie was there and I had another good one hour session with her. There was another good display of women available right from 11am.
One huge advantage of going to PHG is the food. Compared to the other clubs that have pretty average food available PHG has great food, especially at the weekend. On the Sunday they have a cook available from 3pm who will cook omelets or pancakes for you. At 6:30pm they have a big buffet and on the Sunday it was pork with plenty of salad, bratwursts and potatoes. On the Monday I was there for breakfast there was the usual buffet however the cook arrived as I was leaving at 4pm so I’ve no doubt that the evening buffet would be of a good standard again.
W,
Good to see you had a fun time there. I was considering going to GT next time, but may just return to PHG. Maybe the grass is not necessarily greener!
C1
Hollandmale
12-20-06, 10:03
Lavinio (not too sure about the name)You're almost right, it's actually Lavinya :).
Warsteiner
12-21-06, 20:40
You're almost right, it's actually Lavinya :).
Do you have anymore information on her i.e. the days and times that she works? When I was there on the Sunday she didn't turn up until about 5pm so maybe she only works in the evening?
She also told me that she had worked in World for a while but she prefers PHG because it's a bit quieter.
Hollandmale,
It never fails to amaze me how you know the name of every girl in the pussy triangle. You are truly a mastermind.
Maerry Xmas,
C1
Hollandmale
12-22-06, 10:56
Do you have anymore information on her i.e. the days and times that she works? When I was there on the Sunday she didn't turn up until about 5pm so maybe she only works in the evening?Lavinya has been spotted at PHG during weekdays and weekends, both daytime and evenings.
On Sundays she may start late afternoon, as she does irregularly on various other days.
Someone who knows if the club is open during christmas?
Warsteiner
12-23-06, 06:59
Someone who knows if the club is open during christmas?
They had these details listed in the Club but don't seem to have pu them on their website. I'm pretty sure they were:
24th Dec - Closed
25th Dec - 1pm until 1am
26th Dec - 1pm until 1am
31st Dec - Closed
1st Jan - 1pm until 1am
The days in between Boxing Day and New Years Eve are normal opening times.
I must admit the though of spending Christmas Day in an FKK Club is quite appealing - wake up, open presents, eat turkey, go to FKK Club and get shagged senseless - what a perfect Christmas!!
I think these times will be pretty much standard for all clubs at this time of the year.
In a recent trip to PHG last weekend, I met a very tall Polish girl named Martha. She has brown hair and a very pretty face and body. Not a very outgoing personality, but a dynamite session in the room. Highly recommended.
There is currently a huge Romanian contingent at PHG. They tend to be a bit loud and rude at times. Had a very good session with a short Romanian (name sounds like Lina) with a gymnast's body. Huge tits that sagged alot when she was undressed, but very affectionate and sexually responsive. Would recommend a session.
Warsteiner
01-28-07, 20:30
Friday 26th
After my recent trip to PHG in December 2006 I couldn't wait to get back there so I managed to get a couple of days off work and headed over to Oedt.
I arrived on Fri 26th at about 3pm and there were about 20 cars in the carpark. Judging from the numebr plates the clientele were split pretty much 50/50 between Dutch and German.
The club was fairly busy and I had a mootch around to see what was happening. There were a couple of decent women but the real lookers didn't arrive until about 4pm.
Lavinia arrived and was with a friend who was not my type. I approached Lavinia but she said that she would only go to the room if her firend could come as well. As he rfirend was not my type (and I wanted Lavinia to myself) I declined and saw at least 3 other men do the same. Later in the evening her friend had disappeared and she was going to the room by herself however I didn't get the chance to go with her as she was always busy.
I decided to take the plunge and started talking to Ivana.
Looks – 7
Attitude – 7
Session – 6
Repeat factor – 5
Ivana is about 160cm (5'4") tall, has B cup breasts and long dark hair. She has previously worked in Yin Yang and has been at PHG for about 2 weeks.
The session was very average as she is quite unresponsive. At one point I had 3 fingers in side of her but still couldn't get a reaction!! She does DFK and FT but the session was very average.
After a sauna and a couple of drinks the stars of PHG had arrived and there was a group of Hungarians that were sticking together that I noticed. One of them took my fancy and I managed to seperate her from the group.
Looks – 8
Attitude – 8
Session – 8
Repeat factor – 7
Grace has been at PHG for about one week and speaks practically no German or English. She is 150cm (5') tall with shoulder length dark hair, C cup breasts and has quite elfin features. Even though it is difficult to communicate with her you can still tell that she has a good sense of humor and a good personality. She does DFK, BBBJ, DATY and really gets into the session.
By this time it was about 7pm and the place was starting to get busy. There were lots of groups of men arriving and I decided to take a break for a few hours to let things cool down. At about 10pm I was ready for another session and chose Malvina.
Looks – 8
Attitude – 8
Session – 8
Repeat factor – 8
Malvina has previously worked in Artemis and Palace. She is 170cm tall (5'8") with short red hair and B cup breasts. She also has a very large tribal tatoo on her left thigh. Her service changes depenidng upon how busy she is!! If she is very busy she told me that she doesn't do FT or DATY however she was not busy when I spoke to her so she did both of these as well as DFK and also does great BBBJ. She mentioned that she might only be staying at PHG for another 2 weeks before moving on.
While I was there I noticed that oen of the guests was complaining to the management about having to pay for a session. I think the session was with a girl named Jana however I can't be sure of this. The bouncer was also there and the guest was saying that he shouldn't have to pay if someone was so bad at their job. I'm not too sure if he eneded up paying or not but he left straigth after complaining and the impression I got was that the management took the girl's side.
Lisa from GT was also there on Friday looking stunning as ever. I'be no idea if she still provides a limited service (i.e. no DATY or DFK) but she was still looking good.
Saturday 27th
I was only at the club for a couple of hours on the Saturday (from 12 to 3) but had a session with Cassandra.
Looks – 7
Attitude – 6
Session – 6
Repeat factor – 6
Cassandra is 165cm (5'2") tall with shoulder length blond hair and B cup breasts. She is from Poland and speaks fairly good English. She had been at the club for 6 days and was going back to Poland for a week after finish up on the Saturday. She doesn't kiss but like to recieve oral and can be noisy during DATY and sex. She is only 20 years old and is a bit inexprienced but is worth a session.
Monty Burns II
01-29-07, 09:21
Thanks for the report, W.
BTW, was Kitty from Hungary there? I had excellent sessions with her last year. Also, was the place overcrowded after, say, 6 pm? I'd really like to visit it next weekend, but I know from experience it can really get too crowded on such days.
Warsteiner
01-29-07, 21:01
BTW, was Kitty from Hungary there? I had excellent sessions with her last year. Also, was the place overcrowded after, say, 6 pm? I'd really like to visit it next weekend, but I know from experience it can really get too crowded on such days.
You'll have to describe Kitty as I didn't run into her on my trip but may have seen her in the club.
The club wasn't too crowded on the Friday night (I left at about 4pm on Sat). Around 9 or so there was a 10 minute wait for a room, which isn't too bad and gives you a chance to chat with the girl more. I don't know if you have every been to GT but it was nowhere near as busy as that club can get on a Fri/Sat evening.
According to Malvina Thursday night was complete chaos with a wait of 1 hour for a room. No idea why, it wasn't a bank holiday or anything special. She also mentioned that a lot of men will arrive in groups and only have 1 session and spend the rest of the time chatting, drinking beer and going to the sauna and I certainly saw quite a bit of this on the Friday. There were quite a few people arriving between 6 and 8 after finishing work so it got busier then but it wasn't overally busy and just added to the atmosphere.
Monty Burns II
01-29-07, 21:17
Thanks again W.
A 10 min. wait is definitely ok with me, last time I was in GT it was something like 40 minutes! As for sweet Kitty, I think I'll call the club on the very day and ask if she's on duty.
Warsteiner,
Thanks for the update. Long time I have not been to PHG. How many girls were there in he evening?
Warsteiner
01-30-07, 20:45
Warsteiner,
Thanks for the update. Long time I have not been to PHG. How many girls were there in he evening?Hi,
On Friday evening there were probably about 50-60 women there and during the day about 20-25. The evening shift seems to start at about 4pm but there are some good sessions to be had during the day when it's quieter and the women are not as busy.
Hi,
On Friday evening there were probably about 50-60 women there and during the day about 20-25. 50-60 women for real? I have not been but went to GT in December and really liked it. I am returning to GT next week but was first going to spend a night at LR. I know there were nowhere close to 50 girls at GT in December either night I was there. If PHG really has 50+ women I may need to rethink my plans. Although, I haven't read anything negative about GT/LR. I doubt there were even 40 girls at GT either of the two nights I was there.
Hollandmale
02-25-07, 10:05
If PHG really has 50+ women I may need to rethink my plans.50 girls at night is very regular at PHG and 60 is no exception on Thurs / Fri / Saturdays.
During weekdays it hovers from 25 around noon till 40 late afternoon :).
Warsteiner
02-28-07, 21:19
50-60 women for real?
Yep, when I was there on a Friday in Jan I was waiting for a room for about 10 mins and there were 20-30 women still in the club and they have 30 rooms, which means that at least 30 women were busy in the rooms.
Yep, when I was there on a Friday in Jan I was waiting for a room for about 10 mins and there were 20-30 women still in the club and they have 30 rooms, which means that at least 30 women were busy in the rooms.I met a girl at LR who normally works at PHG and was just giving LR a try. She said there are always at least 40-50 on the floor with 20-30 in rooms so it sure sounds like a serious selection. Unfortunately I did not get to PHG last week but I sure plan to ASAP.
FWIW, this girl from LR was outstanding and I hope she's at PHG when I do go.
All I can say is Fucking WOW!!! I have found my favorite club so far in all of Germany. This club IMHO has it all, beautiful women, good service, ambience, good food, good facilities. You can read information in the forums and some meet your expectations and others don't. This one definitely exceeded my expectations. If you like to fuck women, I highly recommend you get yourself over there and see for yourself. I remember reading recently about an ISG member who went to PHG, which by the way should really be named (HPG)Happy Penis Garden or Happy Pussy Garden IMHO, and he said he spent 3 days straight there and didn't seek other clubs because he was satified there. Now I can see first hand why he said this.
First Day I had Seven Sessions.
Magda: Blonde hair, blue eyes, big tits. Cowgirl, missionary. Good session but not excellent.
Name? (Can't remember her name too many women) But blonde hair, blue eyes, nice figure, said she used to work at Palace. When I saw her, she looked really good but when we went in the Zimmer, either the saliva in her mouth while doing oral or her skin or something didn't turn me on. Ended up letting her suck me and I did DATY but I can't remember if I fucked her.
Mia: Blonde haired, blue eyed Romanian in her early 20s. Really good girl with great personality. DATY, DFK, Cowgirl, missionary. Good session overall.
Liz: Stunning looks, tall blonde haired blue eyed girl with tatoos on her body. At first she can seem stuck up, but once you talk to her, she opens up to you. Had one of my funest sessions of the day. Laughed my fucking head off with her all the while trying to fuck since as you know laughter makes the cock get soft. I asked her if she wanted a boy or a girl before I fucked her and that we would have to get in the correct sex position if she wanted a boy. Anyways, after this we were fucking laughing the whole time and it was hard to concentrate on fucking. Anyways, I did fuck her really good. Missionary, Doggie, Cowgirl (She does not offer DATY or DFK)
Looks: 8 Service: 8 Repeat factor: Yes
Ignata (Sp?) Bulgarian girl, dark black hair, big tits. DATY--By the way, isn't it a glorious site when you are doing 69 and all you see in front of your eyes is a beautiful anus and two cheek mounds on each side. Fucking awesome. Finished with Cowgirl, missionary.
Had just finished with Ignata when I was walking down the steps to the bar and couches below and there smiles back at me, Noel and Xenia. I sit down to my Father who just told me he fucked Allie in a 1 hour session--Brazilian Girl, young, petite figure, brownish hair and brown eyes. She said she was the only Brazilian girl there. I sit down at the couch and Noel and Xenia wave me back up to them. So I proceed and talk to them. Both have stunning looks especially Noel. Noel is half French and German, Brown hair, brown eyes, hard body, beautiful ass and legs. Looks 9 Service 10 Repeat factor: YES Xenia has shoulder length brown hair, brown eyes--her tits are a little too soft and floppy but she does have a great personality. Looks 8 Service 8 Repeat factor: yes Xenia wanted to smoke out in the cabana but I told them I don't smoke. They asked if I wanted to book a double session and I said Yes sure.
So the session proceeds: Xenia giving me a blowjob, then fucking me Cowgirl all the while I am eating Noel's beautiful pussy out while she is standing above my head. She told me prior if I could last with Xenia fucking me then I could get to fuck her next. Man did I want to fuck her. Xenia then took her condom off and then put another one on me. I then fucked Noels pussy Doggie style while she was eating Xenia's pussy out. It was a fucking beautiful site looking down at my stiff cock going in and out of Noels pussy, I could see about 3 or 5 milimeters of her outer Labia shimmy across the top of my cock as I pulled in and out of her. FUCKING AWESOME! I fucked both for almost 30 minutes and finally came.
Fucking awesome experience. I told my Dad we had to come back tomorrow and he agreed. Nikita from St Petersberg came over and said it was really nice to see a Father and her Son together at a place like this. I couldn't agree more. Many girls laughed when I introduced my Dad to them. I told them I left my Mom at home in German and they laughed even more.
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Started the club first thing in the morning. A little info on the club, it gets busy after 7PM when they offer dinner. So if you don't want to wait for a room (up to 20 minutes) I recommend fucking earlier in the day. Not as many men. Also, a girl told me they pay 100 Euros a week to get to use the club. The Zimmers are the cleanest around. 2 guys are constantly changing the bedsheets at night. This helps the fuck experience. Great room and beautiful women and you can't go wrong if the service is excellent.
Also, the make up is around 8 Hungarian Women, 15 Polish women, 10 Romanian women, 1 Brazilian and the rest German and others. Total women at the highest point in evening seemed like 45 or 50.
There is no Sex Kino and they just show the Fashion channel. I asked a SP and she said this is appealing to her. The ambience is like a good discotech with hot women that you can fuck. They give you a robe to wear instead of a just a bath towel. There is an outdoor swimming pool and a sauna and outdoor cabanas that you can fuck in.
6 Sessions
I had to have another session with Noel. She is beautiful and gives excellent service. Fucked her really good for 30 minutes straight before finally cumming. She commented that usually guys don't last long first thing in the morning for their first session. Cowgirl, Doggie (I had to see her labia shimmy across my stiff cock again--Wow!) Missionary
Jennifer--Black haired, dark brown eyes, big tits. Overall good service but no repeat factor. DATY, Cowgirl, missionary.
I was sitting below in the main room couch talking to my Dad when I noticed this stunning blonde with nice big natural tits leaning against the upstairs balcony (note: girls who are seeking to fuck will actively lean against the upstairs railing next to the slot machines) I waved her down and she sat down next to me and I introduced her to my Father. Her name was Adrienne and she was a 30 year old Hungarian with a stunning figure. I told my Dad later that if she looked like this at 30 after one child she must have been a fucking knock out when she was 20. Anyways we talked about the Russian Mafia controlling a lot of the sex clubs in Hungary. I had to ask if we could fuck and she of course said yes of course. My dick was getting stiff already staring at her beautiful ass and sexy legs walking to the room. She took off her bra and she had beautiful, perfect Cantaloupe sized melons--a perfect work of art. I had to touch those beautiful melons and began sucking them. Within seconds, I felt as if I was in an amature Hungarian Porn film. Adrienne began immediately making porn moans as she sucked my stiff cock. Then she moved into a postion I hadn't seen before. While standing above me backwards when bent all the way down continuing to suck my cock. While continuing to moan, she fingered her beautiful pussy behind her ass while she still sucked my cock. This girl knew what the fuck she was doing. I then fucked her missionary while speaking Hungarian to her. She then started moaning louder and louder so you could definitely hear her in the hallway. We switched to Doggie and man what a rockin body. Continuing to moan and scream Hungarian Fuck phrases. She then switched to another postion, I hadn't really experienced maybe once before. She was now in a missionary side ways/doggie side fuck position. She motioned me to fuck her sideways. I fucked her sideways all the while she kept moaning like we were in a porn film. We ended up fucking for the full 30 minutes and it was a good fuck workout. I ended the session without cumming. One of the best fuck sessions I have ever had. Looks: 9 Service: 10 Repeat factor: YES
Camilla--Polish Girl in her 30s, big tits, blue eyes. Fucked her in the outdoor cabana. Tits were not as firm as I would like. Fucked her 30 minutes straight without cumming, doggie, missionary, cowgirl.
5th session: Can't remember her name or body--too many women. But apparently, must not have been that good of a session.
Krysta--Hungarian Girl, early 20s dark hair, tanned skin, petite figure. Doggie, missionary, cowgirl.
Just before I left a German Girl named Stella was trying to convince me to fuck her next. I almost did but ended up leaving. Dad ended up fucking Allie, Brazilian girl again. We were going to go to a Partytreff in Ludinghausen the next day but during the day I had asked 3 Germans if Goldentime was as good as PHG. They all said no. Just before we left a Dutch person said that Goldentime was better. More women. He said up to 80 and pretty. There is only one way to find out. You can read all day long in the forums but until you get there, you can't make up your own mind. So the next morning, we drove to Goldentime. See next trip report.
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After having been at GT in the AM and Afternoon and not really satisfied I went back to PHG. Dad was tired and wanted to sleep and rest up after fucking so I left him at the hotel.
I entered the main room and all the girls pretty much knew me by name. I had fucked a good portion of them and I really enjoyed conversing with them. There in the main sitting area was Stella. She told me now that I came back we would have to fuck since I didn't fuck her the night before. I agreed and told her she would have to treat me really good since we had waited this long. Stella is a dark haired girl, big tits, with Chinese or Japanese charater tatoo on her lower back. A little heavy but still good body. She gave me a really good GFE with DFK, DATY (What lovely site!), missionary, doggie, cowgirl. Really had a good sex workout developing sweat while fucking. She had to work hard to finally get me to Cum at the end. She made several moans as if she also had cum.
I then noticed this beautiful, petite girl, sort of Italian looking with dark skin, light brown eyes, perky tits, nice legs. Her name was Katya, she was wearing a nice leapord skin skirt to show off her body. We went to the Zimmer and I fucked her missionary and doggie. She had a nice look from behind while I fucked her doggie. She had to work really hard but in the end she did make me cum.
With so many women in the past few days, I had a hard time remembering all the names. In my last post at PHG, I couldn't remember the name of a girl. Now I remember. She was fucking awesome. Her name was Nina, 20 years old, model type figure tight body, perky tits, dark hair with blue eyes. I fucked her 30 minutes straight without cumming. Doggie (She has a great way of arching her back while you fuck her doggie), missionary, cowgirl.
BTW, I thought it was ironic that while Dad was sleeping at the hotel and I as at PHG, the number of my locker was 76, my Dad's age. Yes, he is 76 but still knows how to bang young pussy. He has a distinguished military career with 7 court martials, one or two because of women in his quarters when he shouldn't have. Anyways, on with the Sessions.
Next day, I planned on taking my Dad to a partytreff for the first time. I should have taken him to PT Dorsten but I decided to try a new Partytreff that I noticed on the web. PT Ludinghausen. See next trip report.
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After getting disappointed at PT Ludinghausen, I decided to make one last run to PHG. All the girls knew my Dad and I at this point and laughed when they saw us show up one last time. It is interesting to see any new faces from the previous few days. I saw Noel near the entrance door and she smiled and asked me why I was back and I said I had to see her one last time. She said that she was ready to leave (it was around 7PM and dinner was going to be served but she said she would eat dinner then fuck me after dinner. What a nice touch. She would fuck my brains out after dinner--Thanks Noel!
Started with Noel. We ended up in a double room suite. After getting me hard with some excellent BBBJ. She started Doggie Style immediately--again what a lovely site! Then I proceeded to fuck her missionary. Really good deep penetrations, worked up quite a sweat. Session was lasting long with a good amount of fucking so she knew she was going to have to fuck me good to get me to cum but I knew if anyone could, she could do it. She then switched back to doggie. I think she knew I would cum seeing her lovely hips and ass move back and forth across my cock. She was right. I finally came. Noel made a comment before we left that the next girl was going to have a really hard time making me cum if at all possible.
Then I wanted to book a session with Eva, Polish girl, nice tits and dark hair and she was too busy and I was tired of waiting since I had a long drive ahead later in the night so I noticed a girl named Beatrice (Sp? ) 18 Year old Hungarian, black hair, blue eyes, medium sized tits. We ended up in the Zimmer after a short break eating pizza (Pizza is usually served around 10PM)
I fucked her for a long time working up a good sweat. BBBJ, Missionary, Cowgirl, Doggie. Then she asked me to switch to another position. One that I hadn't really tried. What is it, with these Hungarian women who know what to do and at such an early age! She proceeded to stand up leaning against the wall inching her ass towards my cock. I proceeded to insert my cock in her fucking her standing up while she told me to look in the mirror while I was doing this. Good fuck and really erotic. We then switched back to the bed fucking Cowgirl and missionary. She asked me to cum and I couldn't. I just kept fucking her more. She gave out several moans like she had cum. We ended the session with me not cumming. She was not happy about it, but I said I really had a good time anyways. I went to the locker room to pay and was not sure if I had gone beyond the 30 minutes. She told me I had and it was almost an hour in the Zimmer so I paid her 75 Euros. This was my last session on my sex tour with my Dad.
Dad ended up having another session with Allie, his favorite Brazilian girl.
Dad made a comment I would like to share. He said to make sure you savor the good times now, because you never know when it will be taken away from U. I couldn't agree more. Life is too short. Enjoy the moment. Be happy. Treat the girls with respect and they will treat you the same.
Thus, my sex tour with my Father ended on a happy note. I hope all you ISG mongers have good experiences like I did. Keep up the great reports and happy pussy hunting!
Cheers,
Hamboner
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Liz: Stunning looks, tall blonde haired blue eyed girl with tatoos on her body. At first she can seem stuck up, but once you talk to her, she opens up to you. Had one of my funest sessions of the day. Laughed my fucking head off with her all the while trying to fuck since as you know laughter makes the cock get soft. I asked her if she wanted a boy or a girl before I fucked her and that we would have to get in the correct sex position if she wanted a boy. Anyways, after this we were fucking laughing the whole time and it was hard to concentrate on fucking. Anyways, I did fuck her really good. Missionary, Doggie, Cowgirl (She does not offer DATY or DFK)
Looks: 8 Service: 8 Repeat factor: Yes
Hey Ham,
This has to be Lisa. She use to work at Golden Time. I had heard that she was back an action at the PHG. She is certainly a looker and makes a trip to Oedt all the more tempting.
Great report!
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hey Ham,
This has to be Lisa. She use to work at Golden Time. I had heard that she was back an action at the PHG. She is certainly a looker and makes a trip to Oedt all the more tempting.
Great report!
Cheers,
DedalusDedalus,
Thanks. It was great meeting you at FKK World a few months back. Happy Mongering!
Hamboner
I really think I am going to pass on GT and spend my NWR at PHG next trip. It just sounds like the girls are better. I do get the feeling PHG is a little more laid back and I might not find it to be as fun but I imagine the girls are better. OTOH, I could spend a night or two there and decide to move on, who knows. It just sounds great and I can't wait to get there.
I wish PHG had a whirlpool and kino although I don't really care about kino that much. Whirlpools are fun though.
Guys, I plan on being at PHG this Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. First time in almost two years. Will any of you guys be there?
Warsteiner
03-16-07, 21:13
Guys, I plan on being at PHG this Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. First time in almost two years. Will any of you guys be there?
You should post this in the Travel Plans section and you may be able to meet up with other members from the board. Even if you don't I'm sure you'll have a good time.
Whirlpools are fun though.
.. as I think of them as a kind of bacterial soup.
But this is just me.
... and you know what evil things thrive in Petrie dishes. Love the feeling of a whirlpool myself, but not in a FKK-Bordel.
... and you know what evil things thrive in Petrie dishes. Love the feeling of a whirlpool myself, but not in a FKK-Bordel.
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Facilities, food & drinks: The façade of the building belies how much space there is in the back. As you enter, you’re a greeted by a middle-aged lady who collects the 50 euros entry fee. Then you’re handed a bathrobe and a bracelet with a real key. The locker room is awkwardly located right in the middle of traffic between the bar lounge and the downstairs Nachtcafe lounge. Other than the cramped locker room area, I really like the layout of this club. There are shower stalls on either side of the hallway leading down to the Nachtcafe lounge. In the hall there is also a room with a tanning bed as well as a massage room staffed by a professional masseuse. Straight down the hall is the dry sauna as well as a seating area looking out to the outside pool. A flight of stairs takes you down to the Nachtcafe lounge which is a self-serve area. The fridge is well-stocked with Heineken and Warsteiner beer. As well, you can make your own cappuccino or coffee and get water or soft drinks from the soda fountain. This is also the area where they serve dinner (6pm) and pizza (10pm). The food is decent: plenty of grilled meat and the pizza comes with a choice of various toppings including my favorite Canadian bacon with pineapple. There is no Kino at PHG but in my opinion, this is more than compensated with a big screen projection behind the Nachtcafe that shows soccer matches. When I was there on a Friday night, it was nice to drink beer and watch a Bundesliga soccer match while resting in between sessions.
The outside of PHG is impressive. There is a pool that you can see from the bar and lots of cabins outside. I don’t know how many cabins there are but it seems there are more at PHG than at Golden Time.
The girls hang out in the bar upstairs to the right of the entrance. Most of them sit along the wall facing the bar. There are sofas at the other end of the bar room and this is a good spot to see which girl has been busy because they have to walk thru the area to get the room keys and to their personal lockers. When I visited this club on a Friday evening, there were about 40 girls working. Even if you didn’t speak the respective languages, it’s easy to see which group comprised of Romanians, Poles or Germans. Most were 6-8 in the looks department with maybe ten in the 8-10 category. I had four sessions there including a repeat, during my 8h stay there on Friday.
Liza – mid to late 20s, 5’10” German dunkelblond, centerfold-type of body, tanned, natural 34D cup, with an ass to die for. Liza is a standout headturner and she walks around to let everyone else know it too. She sports tattoos galore, including between her tits, inside her right arm and on her lower back. Her English is good. She told me she used to work at GT for 2 years and has been at PHG for 2 months. Service: Liza has a “no kiss and no lick pussy” rules of engagement that she communicates upfront. Even without DATY and DFK, there is plenty to love about this girl: excellent bbbj, MPOS, and a Russian finish which I did on my repeat session with her later that night. Repeat factor? With a killer body like that and those tits and ass, hell yeah!
Pia – 23yo German, 5’6” brunette from Koln, 34C cup natural. It turns out that this was only her second day at PHG. Her English is decent. However her service sucks. Used too much teeth and hands during BBBJ. Had a tendency to hold condom during various positions. DATY was allowed but she didn’t seem or act like she enjoyed it. So I ended up doing a self-serve ejaculation on her tits. Our session went slightly over 30 minutes so she demanded payment for 1h. I didn’t feel like arguing especially in a crowded locker room so I just handed her the 75 euros. Repeat factor? What a joke. Avoid this one at all costs.
Senya (or Sonia?) – 25 yo Polish brunette, 5’7”, tanned and well-toned, ex-GT girl. Her English is decent. Service: Excellent bbbj with good spitting action, DATY, fingering allowed, no CIM, LFK, greek. Repeat factor? Probably not as there are too many other girls whom I want to sample on my next return to this great club.
When I was there about 3 weeks ago, the large screen TV had gone from the nachtcafe. Whether it was broken or the girls had complained it distracted the blokes, I don't know. It had been there before though.
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Warsteiner
03-21-07, 21:55
When I was there about 3 weeks ago, the large screen TV had gone from the nachtcafe. Whether it was broken or the girls had complained it distracted the blokes, I don't know. It had been there before though.
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They have a large screen now that can be retracted if there isn't any sport. It's normally lowered for football, Formula 1, etc. but once the sport finishes they retract it.
Visited one of my favorite places in the world Monday and Tuesday afternoon and evenings (PHG). I felt the quality was not as good as two years ago. About 35 girls both days, only about 5 different each day. Most in the 5-6 range, a few 7-8, a couple 8-10. Not many 18-20 year olds like before. Saw better looking younger girls in the windows in Amsterdam. However, did not participate in Amsterdam because of the poor service. No BBBJ, short time etc. Just hung out to smoke weed mainly. Rather save my money for the FKK's.
Local german girl named Kathern ask me to go to the room. Everything included for the 100 Euros. Nice body, spoke good English. Not bad service, but she seemed to want to get home and I felt rushed. As a result I could not cum.
Tried Mia from a country that starts with A, I forget the name. Almost too thin a girl, spoke English not German, which suprised me. 20 years old, student. Said that she was only going to work two weeks at a time, then fly home. This was her first time working. Paid my typical 100 Euros but once we started she told me each cim was an extra 25. When did this stuff start? I have been to PHG at least 40 times over the past 6 years and never incountered an upsale. Very tight fuck and good BBBJ. I guess the extra 25 really made her work hard as I was able to cim twice. Actually the very long tight doggy fuck was also great. The service actually lasted an hour and a half. She was not a clock watcher so I do not regret the 150 total payment.
Long trip for so short a time but the service in Germany is so much better that I find in the States. Cim from a slim young girl here in Spokane or even Seattle is hard to find and much more expensive. Might try to make it back in the fall. Love PHG, but you can find younger girls cheaper in Brazil.
Love PHG, but you can find younger girls cheaper in Brazil.
Yeah, I know...you can also find them at GoldenTime down the road from PHG...
Paid my typical 100 Euros but once we started she told me each cim was an extra 25. When did this stuff start? I have been to PHG at least 40 times over the past 6 years and never incountered an upsale.
Typical protocol is you pay after service has been rendered. It sounds like you prepaid and just handed the girl 100 Euros at the beginning of the session. Now, that is atypical.
Warsteiner
03-25-07, 19:02
Adickt - It sound like you've been ripped off. The prices in PHG are €50 for 30 mins and €75 for one hour. Extras like CIM are €25 and anal is €50. You only pay after you've finished the session and the girl will follow you back to your locker. You shouldn't be paying any money before the session.
Adickt - Just a little odd that you say you had paid upfront, when it is generally know at PHG that one pays the normally the girl after a session.... And then you comment that the girl tried to upscale you.... One would have thought if you have been there many times that these things might have been odd?
Did you speak to the management about paying the girl upfront?
I have been there about fifteen times since 2004 and can't recall a temporary change of paying the girl after a session...
Just my two cents worth
I'm planning to visit PHG for the first time in a few weeks. I'm hoping to find better talent there than at GT where I visited December and January. I like GT, don't get me wrong. But I'd like a change. I met a girl at the LR in January who normally works at PHG. She and I had an incredible session together- I was in lust. She told me she was just trying out LR and really bragged about the line up at PHG. She said there are rarely fewer than 60 girls working and that many are very beautiful. We had a good rapport and I believe she at least believes she's telling the truth- she had absolutely no reason to lie. So with that in mind I wonder if there are really as few as 35-40 girls and from the sounds of it on this thread they aren't all that impressive. Am I reading some of the recent comments wrong? If I went by what my friend at LR said, I should expect 60-80 girls most nights at PHG and many would be very attractive and young like she was.
I'm planning to visit PHG for the first time in a few weeks. I'm hoping to find better talent there than at GT where I visited December and January. I like GT, don't get me wrong. But I'd like a change. I met a girl at the LR in January who normally works at PHG. She and I had an incredible session together- I was in lust. She told me she was just trying out LR and really bragged about the line up at PHG. She said there are rarely fewer than 60 girls working and that many are very beautiful. We had a good rapport and I believe she at least believes she's telling the truth- she had absolutely no reason to lie. So with that in mind I wonder if there are really as few as 35-40 girls and from the sounds of it on this thread they aren't all that impressive. Am I reading some of the recent comments wrong? If I went by what my friend at LR said, I should expect 60-80 girls most nights at PHG and many would be very attractive and young like she was.
... and at PHG are similar.
Its just a little harder to manuever at PHG because of the layout.
I'm planning to visit PHG for the first time in a few weeks. I'm hoping to find better talent there than at GT where I visited December and January. I like GT, don't get me wrong. But I'd like a change. I met a girl at the LR in January who normally works at PHG. She and I had an incredible session together- I was in lust. She told me she was just trying out LR and really bragged about the line up at PHG. She said there are rarely fewer than 60 girls working and that many are very beautiful. We had a good rapport and I believe she at least believes she's telling the truth- she had absolutely no reason to lie. So with that in mind I wonder if there are really as few as 35-40 girls and from the sounds of it on this thread they aren't all that impressive. Am I reading some of the recent comments wrong? If I went by what my friend at LR said, I should expect 60-80 girls most nights at PHG and many would be very attractive and young like she was.
Chicafan,
I was at PHG very recently on a Friday night and I'd estimate the number of girls at 50 max. So 60-80 girls seems excessive. As far as the quality, yes, the babes are beautiful including some real head-turners.
BTW, was it Michelle whom you saw at LR? She used to be at PHG for a while. She's right up there on my repeat list.
Chicafan,
I was at PHG very recently on a Friday night and I'd estimate the number of girls at 50 max. So 60-80 girls seems excessive. As far as the quality, yes, the babes are beautiful including some real head-turners.
BTW, was it Michelle whom you saw at LR? She used to be at PHG for a while. She's right up there on my repeat list.
The girl I saw is "Kitty". I don't know why she uses that silly name. She still works at PHG but said she just wanted to try it out. She speaks decent English also.
Monty Burns II
03-26-07, 20:29
'The girl I saw is "Kitty". I don't know why she uses that silly name. She still works at PHG but said she just wanted to try it out. She speaks decent English also.'
Was she from Hungary? If so, she's one of the best PHG girls I've ever met.
Was she from Hungary? If so, she's one of the best PHG girls I've ever met.
She most certainly was from Hungary. What a nice girl. She talked before the session, wasn't in a hurry to get to the room, and performed like a champ. I am hoping she was one of many good ones at PHG.
I'm sorry that you and others thought that I meant that I paid upfront. I had meant to say that I had always paid 100 E afterwords for an hour, and it included cim. I did not pay upfront but she started asking for more money during the session. If I had asked to change the deal like asking for anal, I would understand. In all other sessions the upfront negotations were never deviated from. I was not in the mood to talk to management because I had had a good time and I liked her personally. However, no matter how new she was, she must have been told the pay structure. I was just wondering if anybody else had experienced something like this, or was it now becoming commonplace.
Always stick to your guns and only pay exactly what is owed...if she complains tell her that the two of you can go to management to settle the issue.
Hope that you didn't take my comments personally as they were not intended to.
Girls certainly do know the structure prices but I guess as human nature is such, some will "try it on" and try to charge extra for example going over time and overcharging for extras....
I actually haven't been to PHG for over a year, but it brings back pleasant memories. The first time I was there, three years ago and I was sitting on a sofa in the Natch cafe watching the snow fall outside, thinking it doesn't get better than this!!!!
Hope you have better experiences at PHG!
Tony70
Can someone confirm the opening time for PHG on tuesday May 1st? I dont want to arrive again like my last visit and find they dont open for another 5 hours.
Hollandmale
04-14-07, 04:39
Can someone confirm the opening time for PHG on tuesday May 1st? I dont want to arrive again like my last visit and find they dont open for another 5 hours......a holiday, so PHG opens at 13.00: http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/
Warsteiner
04-15-07, 14:24
.....a holiday, so PHG opens at 13.00: http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/
Thanks Hollandmale, I'm planning to be over in NRW from the 5th - 9th May and was thinking that Mon 7th was a BH as it is here in the UK but in Germany it is the 1st May that is the BH and not the 1st Monday in May so... an extra 2 hours mongering and nowhere near as many people :)
FYI - here is an online calendar that I've found that shows all of the BHs for each country http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/index.html?year=2007&country=8
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