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Before I get hammered again for the lineup comment, please note that it was a weekday. Even Oase lineup was pretty dull yesterday (Monday). Somebody really should check them out on a weekend.
BTW, I was charged only 40 Euro for entrance fee and the food is cooked from scratch right in front of you. Good menu, they even had Thai chicken curry.Have no fear... Your comments about the line-up are fair and reasoned. I was there about 3 weeks ago with 2 other ISG members, on a Friday (approx. 25 girls present).
Das5element will not compete with the bigger Hessen clubs on line-up alone.
The club seems to have some stunners BUT it does not have 50 or more girls present.
However, Das5element does have some very impressive qualities such as excellent food, plush surroundings and very good and clean facilities.
If you want a change from Oase, Palace or World, it's a good place to go!
CD
Hello All,
Could anyone post some reviews about Das5 Element? There was a post about Janine (cannot find the report)
Has anyone seen Maria and Elena (judging from the photos posted on the site)? Any other reports about particular girls?
Also, there seem to be a discrepancy about the entrance fee. Is ir 65 EUR? 40 EUR?
Thanks in advance.
TR
Could anyone post some reviews about Das5 Element? There was a post about Janine (cannot find the report)
Has anyone seen Maria and Elena (judging from the photos posted on the site)? Any other reports about particular girls?
Also, there seem to be a discrepancy about the entrance fee. Is ir 65 EUR? 40 EUR?
TRTR
I am the author of the report about Das5element in which Janine features (also Sheva and Kelis).
The report can be found here: 992991
Creature2, Basketcase and Lastman have also been to Das5element and hopefully they might report on their experiences soon.
The €40 entrance fee seems to apply to early in the week when there seems to be less girls. The entrance fee seems to increase to €65 towards the weekend.
The club is worth visiting if you do not need a very big line-up. There seems to be approx 25 girls present in the club at weekends.
The food in the club is superb and of restaurant standard (cooked in front of you). The facilites are also second to none.
However the club is not as busy as the Big 3 FKK clubs (World, Palace and Oase) but is an ideal venue if you want a different experience.
Stick to visiting Thursday to Sunday for the time being.
CD
Hello All,
Could anyone post some reviews about Das5 Element? There was a post about Janine (cannot find the report)
Has anyone seen Maria and Elena (judging from the photos posted on the site)? Any other reports about particular girls?
Also, there seem to be a discrepancy about the entrance fee. Is ir 65 EUR? 40 EUR?
Thanks in advance.
TRNo problem,
I have visited DAS5 twice, once with Captain Dan, Creature2 and the very notorious Basketcase.
On my first visit I was blown away with the place. It was like visiting an upmarket spa with women to fuck. We entered in the middle / late afternoon and was very relaxing, the lineup was 25 girls with two from Oase and three girls from Palace. I haven't named the girls as they don't want to named, no real superstars looks wise, but many solid 8's.
The club is laid back with the girls not allowed to pressure the guys, so you can relax, there is a chief on hand and you get the choice of four dishes cooked fresh for you. To describe the quality the best example I can give is when they did pizza it was from fresh dough they made themselves, rolled it in front of you.
On my first visit I had four sessions Stella a six foot 2 blonde with a very tight body, german girl from Palace, who had flirted with a few times but never sessioned, and a Romanian, and the american that CD describes,
The rooms are great and the shop a good idea if you like to add toys / uniforms etc. I role played with a couple of the girls which I find you never get with the girls in palace/oase where it is more mechinal.
I found all the girls have said the same things there isn't a lot of bears but it is there favourite club to work and many thing it will be the place to be come summer.
I went with some German clients / early during the week and did find the entrance was cheaper, we actually held a couple of meetings but there was only around 15 girls and the greatest sessions with role playing with uniforms etc.
I would recomend guys to go but not if this is your only club and especially if you want a relaxing time with some sex on top and the not the pressure of the girls of the big three.
I don't post enough trip reports. Two reasons I find the defence and promotion of Oase complety ott, Oase is always dirty, smelly with food of a pet food standard unless the bbq is going. The showers don't work properly. Rooms small and smelly.
The smoke in the main room is overpowering and the girls can be just as aggressive in my experience more so than palace. So the only saving grace is the lineup and looks wise / numbers, three times I have gone and the lineup disappointing.
Compare with DAS5 which has everything facilities wise, but early in the week the lineup is small, although there was four. Five you would always happily fuck. Which generally means you won't be disappointed, it is the visual which isn't everything, so I agree with linga I did find the lineup small early in the week and the same problem at Oase.
Looking at the website, they now seem to be open 11-4 only Fri-Sat. Other days 11-2.
I don't post enough trip reports. Two reasons I find the defence and promotion of Oase complety ott, Oase is always dirty, smelly with food of a pet food standard unless the bbq is going. The showers don't work properly. Rooms small and smelly.
The smoke in the main room is overpowering and the girls can be just as aggressive in my experience more so than palace. So the only saving grace is the lineup.
Yes you are so right! Oase is dirty, it smells, the food is very often bad! But is has the best line-up of all the Clubs in Hessen and NRW! For me the only reason to visit Oase.
B30
Yes you are so right! Oase is dirty, it smells, the food is very often bad! But is has the best line-up of all the Clubs in Hessen and NRW! For me the only reason to visit Oase.
B30
Yes Big30 you are correct, unfortunately the hooker line-up is now the only reason to visit FKK Oase.
In the winter months the garden, which is a big feature of the club (just like GoldenTime in NRW) is not realistically in use and all that is left is the club itself,
which is rather cramped and badly designed.
The facilities and food are also very poor. Literally the only reason to go to Oase is for the hooker line-up, which is, as you correctly say, the best in Hessen.
You can get 60, 70, 80+ girls in the club, particularly at weekends. Many high quality girls. :)
However, you can also get 100s of guys at the same time. :(
Not quite as bad as GoldenTime, where sometimes all you can see is wall to wall Polar Bears.
But yes, Oase gets the crowd, both male and female. The Hoes go where the most wallets will be. :D
I know that Lastman, like myself, likes to spend on average 8 - 12 hours in a club, make use of the wellness facilities and bang some broads.
In Lastman's case, bang many broads! :cool:
You can do this is more comfort in some other clubs, particularly FKK World and still have an excellent selection of ladies to choose from.
It is good to visit Oase occassionally, but luckily there are other clubs to also go to! ;)
CD
No problem,
I have visited DAS5 twice, once with Captain Dan, Creature2 and the very notorious Basketcase.
On my first visit I had four sessions Stella a six foot 2 blonde with a very tight body, german girl from Palace, who had flirted with a few times but never sessioned, and a Romanian, and the american that CD describes,
I would recomend guys to go but not if this is your only club and especially if you want a relaxing time with some sex on top and the not the pressure of the girls of the big three.THANK YOU Lastman and Captain D. However, what nationality is Stella? And. Could you please be a little more descriptive of the services? Any DFK, BBBJ, how was she?
Also, I am very intrigued by Maria. Looking at the pictures makes me want to jump on a plane as well, bound for FRA Anyone spent time with her?
Thanks again. I am definitely considering Das5 Element now. I am a little concerned about weekdays, but hopefully I can learn more from you guys.
TR
Looking at the website, they now seem to be open 11-4 only Fri-Sat. Other days 11-2.
Yes Toscana, although I am a big fan of Das5element, this club does not (yet!?) appear to have a large throughput of visitors, particularly during the week.
Consequently the lady line-up does not not appear to have a lot of depth until the weekend (maybe 20 to 25 broads at the weekend, probably a lot less Monday to Wednesday).
My advice would be to visit from Thursday to Sunday.
The place is ok on the other days if you want to make use of the excellent club facilities and eat the fabulous restaurant standard food.
Also sometimes a few girls can be enough, provided that they are good quality.
CD
Yes Big30 you are correct, unfortunately the hooker line-up is now the only reason to visit FKK Oase.
I know that Lastman, like myself, likes to spend on average 8 - 12 hours in a club, make use of the wellness facilities and bang some broads.
In Lastman's case, bang many broads! :cool:
You can do this is more comfort in some other clubs, particularly FKK World and still have an excellent selection of ladies to choose from.
It is good to visit Oase occassionally, but luckily there are other clubs to also go to! ;)
CD
- I fully agree with your analysis!
- Oase has a lot of negative points that all have been mentioned many times on this forum. After the renovation wellness facilities increased a little but indeed cannot compare with for example World and Palace and although I have never been there also not with Das 5 Element I guess.
- Having said that and knowing that, I was many times in Oase, it has something special, yes the line-up but also some elements that are hard to describe in words.
- Many times before going to the Oase I first had dinner along the autobahn or in Friedberg and no we arrived before dinner in the Oase, that says a lot about the quality of the food (in Summer with BBQ it is OK!).
- Gt seems to be a little less overcrowded the last months partly probably caused by the fact that esspecially LR is now gaining more popularity. Few weeks ago on a Friday was in Gt and it was not so busy as before. And indeed in summer when you can use the garden things are different in GT (same remark for Oase!). The tent they have now in Gt would be a good idea for Oase but I am sure that will never happen there.
- When you look at the club scene in NRW then IMHO Acapulco and PSR have the best facilities but they are not the clubs that are most popular and most visited. This is also partly caused by the facts that thse clubs are less known, relatively new and located in less dense areas.
B30
THANK YOU Lastman and Captain D. However, what nationality is Stella? And. Could you please be a little more descriptive of the services? Any DFK, BBBJ, how was she?
Also, I am very intrigued by Maria. Looking at the pictures makes me want to jump on a plane as well, bound for FRA Anyone spent time with her?
Thanks again. I am definitely considering Das5 Element now. I am a little concerned about weekdays, but hopefully I can learn more from you guys.
TR
My advice for you Tr4440, with regard to Das5element, is to stick to going on Thursday to Sunday, particularly if you need a big enough line up (20 - 25 ladies).
If you make a lot of use of club facilities (sauna, whirlpool, pool, massage etc) and also want to experience the excellent food, perhaps just avoid Monday and Tuesday.
Do not go at all, if you need a line-up of 40 - 50 hookers. You will not find that on any day.
If you do go, let us know how you get on.
CD
- I fully agree with your analysis!
- Oase has a lot of negative points that all have been mentioned many times on this forum. After the renovation wellness facilities increased a little but indeed cannot compare with for example World and Palace and although I have never been there also not with Das 5 Element I guess.
- Having said that and knowing that, I was many times in Oase, it has something special, yes the line-up but also some elements that are hard to describe in words.
- Many times before going to the Oase I first had dinner along the autobahn or in Friedberg and no we arrived before dinner in the Oase, that says a lot about the quality of the food (in Summer with BBQ it is OK!).
- Gt seems to be a little less overcrowded the last months partly probably caused by the fact that esspecially LR is now gaining more popularity. Few weeks ago on a Friday was in Gt and it was not so busy as before. And indeed in summer when you can use the garden things are different in GT (same remark for Oase!). The tent they have now in Gt would be a good idea for Oase but I am sure that will never happen there.
- When you look at the club scene in NRW then IMHO Acapulco and PSR have the best facilities but they are not the clubs that are most popular and most visited. This is also partly caused by the facts that thse clubs are less known, relatively new and located in less dense areas.
B30
Big30, I find your attitude to FKK Oase very accurate and intelligent.
I laughed when I read that you had to stop off for food on your way to FKK Oase for fear of the meal that you might get in the club. :)
I could see myself doing the same!
I might head up towards NRW next trip. What is the current line-up like in Acapulco and PSR?
I am also considering paying a visit to VillaVertigo. :eek:
It might be another month or two before I get there, but I think that VV needs to be looked at again by a group of ISGers. I have heard that this club has improved, and would like to see for myself.
Cheers
CD
My advice for you Tr4440, with regard to Das5element, is to stick to going on Thursday to Sunday, particularly if you need a big enough line up (20. 25 ladies).
If you make a lot of use of club facilities (sauna, whirlpool, pool, massage etc) and also want to experience the excellent food, perhaps just avoid Monday and Tuesday.
Do not go at all, if you need a line-up of 40. 50 hookers. You will not find that on any day.
If you do go, let us know how you get on.
CDThank you Capt. D. I will make sure to report. I am planning to visit there on April 23 or 24.
However, could you (or anyone else), help me learn more about Stella and Maria. And about their services. Where are they from? And other details.
Thank you again.
TR
Bacon Sandwich
03-18-10, 16:18
Just a quick question: has anyone here ever stayed at the hotel at Pascha? Their site says its 200 euro per night, which includes entry to the nightclub, the fkk, and the brothel. Not sure if I'm going to do it, but just curious to see if anyone has had the experience.
Went to Das 5 yesterday with a friend whom had never experienced a FKK club before, needless to say he is still smiling this morning.
We got the club about 3 pm and I thought I had briefed him well on the "ways of the club". About 15 mins after sitting at the bar, one of the girls walks up and starts talking to us. I am sure she thought we were both "newbies", when she realized I had some experience, she zoomed in on my friend. He really had no chance and off they went within 30 mins of entering the door. He said it was a good session, but afterwards, he realized he should have waited to see what else was available. Her name is Narene, and she is Romanian.
Enjoyed the facilities, and my friend found a little Bulgarian spinner, this girl looks awesome if you like spinners, with a great butt. Her name is Darlene, and he was smitten, he took her for an hour and was VERY satisfied.
I saw a couple of girls getting the tour of the club, so it was obvious they were new to the club.
I spoke with one of the new girls,a Greek lady named Kristine, she has worked at a number of clubs in the area. She has blond hair, nothing really spectacular body wise, but great eyes and a pleasing manner. Had a great session with all the normal attributes, and she had a nice meaty butt that looked great from my perspective....
Enjoyed a well prepared meal, and my friend could not get over how much fun his girl had been. Much to my surprise his little spinner came back over with a tall 19 yr old lovely Bulgarian friend and joined us at the bar. She doesn't speak English, but we could communicate in Spanish, and I translated some for my wingman. I have to admit that I really wanted to tap that little spinner, but wasn't sure my friend was comfortable with that whole idea at this point.
I would up talking to a lovely German girl named Laura, really great session, and she has a great behind, with perfect little breasts and a very GFE type experience, what a treat!!
A couple of interesting things happened, first I was told by two different girls that if they get in the jacuzzi with you, it counts as a session and you are expected to pay as if you are in the room. This was a surprise, because on my previous visits, I had three different girls use the jacuzzi as a "test drive" much like a few moments on one of the sofas or in the kino. I guess the "manager" has recently instituted this policy. The second is that there were about 20- 25 girls max, and some real good lookers, but even on a Thursday there were a lot of times there were more girls than guys. I was surprised.
I spoke with one of the local guys and he mentioned that he liked a club in Polhiem, that had as many girls as Oase, is anyone familiar with this place?
Before we left my buddy took his little Bulgarian spinner back for another round......3 times with her in one trip....he got his money's worth for sure....LOL
I have had 4 great trips to this club and it is quickly becoming a favorite, the only downside for me is the distance from FRA airport. Still worth the drive! Maybe I can find a train somewhere reasonably close. Enjoy
In the interest of your self-esteem, I'll delete my post and you can do with yours as you choose.
I haven't seen my self esteem in so long, I wouldn't recognize it.....:-))
I hope that you didn't misunderstand. I meant I was the one that "opened my mouth and confirmed". Maybe it was a poor attempt at self-depreciation. I appreciated your information, just felt kind of silly after I realized the answer.
Thanks!
Sky
I spoke with one of the local guys and he mentioned that he liked a club in Polhiem, that had as many girls as Oase, is anyone familiar with this place?Sky, thanks for your report.
The local guy probably refers to FKK World in Pohlheim-Garbenteich (close to Giessen).
I have had 4 great trips to this club and it is quickly becoming a favorite, the only downside for me is the distance from FRA airport. Still worth the drive! Maybe I can find a train somewhere reasonably close. EnjoyHey there Sky Ryder, good to hear that you enjoyed your visits to Das5element.
This club must have the best food of any FKK or Sauna Club in Germany!
The facilities are also excellent; everything is new and clean.
With regard to a lady joining you in the jacuzzi and it counting as a session, that has also happened to me too!
Not sure if it is a club policy or a hooker policy! :D
I'm not sure if Das5element has established a big enough pool of male customers yet. Hopefully they will be able to maintain the 25 girls for more than just the weekend days.
I have heard that the number drops downwards on Monday and Tuesday especially. Still Das5element is a really excellent club and hopefully more guys will be as adventurous as yourself and risk a trip to Fulda.
Hopefully they will also report back on ISG. :cool:
CD
Basketcase
03-19-10, 21:31
I spoke with one of the local guys and he mentioned that he liked a club in Polhiem, that had as many girls as Oase, is anyone familiar with this place?
Sky Ryder,
Nice one visiting Das 5 Element and writing your report on it. Good work since reports like yours on this club are what brings these places alive for the rest of us.
The club in Polheim that the German man was talking about is a place called FKK World. There is a separate thread on FKK World on the FKK section of ISG.
Cheers,
Anybody knows where she is now.
She used to work at World and Royal.
maybe, alongside of having fun with fkk girls, maybe, one of the best part of frequenting the fkks, imho, is the freedom of cruising on german highways and discovering new clubs and new girls at each of your stopovers. last week, i was staying at mulhouse, france, with a buddy of mine. even we were tired of driving 600 km in french n roads, we found the necessary energy to cross the german border and hit some german fkk clubs. we drove all the way down, along the a5 from south to north direction, more than 200 km and return back to france to our hotel after midnight, so we covered an additional 400 km in a night, we made 1000 km in a single day both in france and germany, totaly. what a committement and dedication for a monger.
first, we checked a club in freiburg (aphrodites traum) that we saw at gandjim’s gorgeous map. when we reach there, we find out this former one is turned into an agentour so we didn’t walked in and head back to further north, some more 60 km, to reach offenburg.
club rubin
i read in the french forum, that former club rubin (which is located in the industry zone of offenburg) has turned into an fkk, namely fkk bereich, last year.
www.clubrubin.com/de
maybe it could be nice to get used to the cheap entry (35 euro). we found the club easily by gps. we rang, there was a hunky guy in the front desk, which wasn’t that friendly. we spoke in french but he had neither french nor english knowledge. he showed us a tariff in french that the entry was 50 euro, and the ½ hour service is 50 e, one hour is 100 euro. so, i realise they raised the entrance fee, shortly after their openning, last september. i asked how many girls were there inside, he said there were 6 girls, i asked whether they had food inside, they had only the softdrinks and the alcoholic drinks are to be paid. from that entrance section, i could see a part of the club, there were a red and dark atmosphere, i saw only a slightly mature women, the rest of the line-up should be in some other part of the club, where i don’t have a vision near the entrance. the atmosphere didn’t sound me good, and i guess there were not many customers when i checked the parking lots. there were nothing interesting for us in this former club rubin and we decided to check club lancelot which should be 6 km away from rubin.
fkk lancelot
when we reached fkk lancelot, we saw that the parking area was full and with mostly french plated cars.
http://www.fkk-club-lancelot.de/
those strasbougers are much luckier compared to the parisiens, they do have a short journey to reach those great german clubs to party, like they do everyday to cross the road from home to their office. we rang, the door opened. we heard the music of a nice party atmosphere, inside, even it was a slow sunday night. the lady in the counter was very friendly and she was speaking a very fluent french. she explained us the house ordnung. the entrance was 50 euro, they have buffet, barbecue at weekends, they have softdrinks but alcohol is to be paid separately. the service of the girls starts from 60 euro for half an hour and 120 euro for an hour. she even explained us the extras; sodomie (i guess this should be anal work) was 100 euro, cim 50 euro and cob was 30 euro, but it should be discussed beforehand with girl directly, whether she performs or not. i asked how many girls they had, she said 19 girls, and they were open until 3 am, on a sunday. from the part i saw the inside club, there were more punters than girls, we saw one black girl and a roumanian girl. all sounds perfect to me and actually i wanted to walk in. i have already seen its sister club pascha paradise in villingen schweningen (it was last september, but i didn’t report it yet) and i would like to discover this one too, as fkk lancelot is one of the most prefered one by the french punters. but my buddy was very curious about pirates park and he would like to see the line-up. he was curious because i already told him about pirates park a long time ago. so we didn’t checked in the fkk lancelot (even i regret) and i called the pirates park while my buddy already started to drive further north through karlsruhe and bruchsal.
ilina, the sweet thekefraus (sisters from serbia) of pirates park, opened the phone and informed me there were 9 girls in the house and they were closing at midnight. so, even we push the accelerator pedal to the carpet, we can have maximum two hours in the club. i asked whether they continue their short stay tariff, two hours for 30 euro, the reply was positive. i asked about ginger, bascha, celine and moni. ginger left but will return in two days, bascha is supposed not to return the club. moni went for a vacation to her homeland prag but would return next week and celine was there, that night. tashia told me they had new german girls and the line-up is formed mostly within german girls which is the thing i like about that small club.
fkk pirates-park
http://www.pirates-park.de
we reached bruchsal near 10 pm, we had to first, refuel because my buddy pushed very hard on the accelerator, with an average of 180 km/s (i hope we don’t have any speeding ticket with that french plated car in germany and unfortunately, our french navigation system didn’t show us the location of the german speed radars and safety cameras). actually, i knew that we had more or less two hours in the club and normally, i prefer to stay in the clubs longer than two hours. we had a cheaper option nearby, fkk point for 19 euro, more convenient for shorter stays, but my buddy was commited himself to see the pirates, so we each paid 30 euro and walked in (normal price for the whole sunday was only 40 euro). i had a discount coupon of 10 euro but it was valid only from tuesday to saturday, where they follow normal entry price which is 50 euro. inside, i realised they had implemented some new doors to separate the locker door and the inside of the club. they also placed new lockers next to the stairs, but maybe these are just for the girls and the crew. i also realised that cleanliness started to be an issue in this pretty small club or maybe the crew was lean on this time of late sunday evening, but the floors of the showers wasn’t that clean, new towels were sometimes missing, the toilets were not maintained in a good condition and i had a strange smell from the water of the upper floor jacuzzi, that is why i didn’t get used of it. i really wonder why the management operate always the smaller sauna if they have a second and bigger and more classy sauna? maybe, just to reduce the opearting cost? maybe, when they invest for this club at the end of 2008, they didn’t foresee the economical crise and the slowdown on the businesses.
the girls i saw that night;
vicki; a former point girl from bulgaria. i asked her about sarita of fkk point.
www.fkkpoint-bruchsal.de
hopefully, she was still in point, another good reason for me to visit this club on a monday. alex also was still in point. vicki told me fkk point is dirtier now, so she prefers to be in pirates. vicki was too skinny and dark skinned for my taste, i returned her countless offers to go to the kino.
sonja: i realise i remember this girl from somewhere. vicki helped me a bit on that. she was in fleigenblatt back in november 2008, but she kept some weight last year, especially in the buttocks area. and my friend travelerb69 had a fun time with her on the first day but he had a problem in the second encounter. i know that she could be a pain the ass, in the room, as t69 had also an issue with that girl. i prefered to speak with her instead of sessioning. she told me that fkk fleigenblatt is not good any more, there were lots of roumanian and bulgarian girls and she runaway from there. i asked why she didn’t go to fkk night and day which was closer. she says there were also those roumanians there. i assume not only the punters, but some working girls is also running away from that roumanian assault. i asked about the russian girl victoria, she says she was still there (my last visit to fleigenblatt was in last september. i saw russian vicki, another unnamed mature but very nice russian women and one more very cute ukranian girl and didn’t see a single roumanian girl, six months ago, there. so i don’t rely to sonja’s words unless i visit and see with my own eyes. (but i don’t think i will repet fleiganblatt any time sooner, as i had to do some other discoveries in that area).
nicole: a beautiful tall german blond, from mannheim. i had in mind to go for a room with her but i should first screen her. she showed me another tall blond and a bit mature girl from mannheim. i assume they were close friends. i scanned her by asking whether she does bj with or without condom (i know that some girls practice it here, with condom), she said she does without. oh, i gelt i started to climb the stairs for upstairs room, i put already the first steps to the rooms upstairs. i asked if she kisses, she says this is too private and she does it with her boyfriend and i wasn’t her boyfriend. the issue was not just the kisses, but i had a bad vibe from her answers that the session could be somewhat mechanical so i lost attention, thanked her and went to another corner to follow a pole dance. she even doesn’t reply my thanks, so i know now, i had a good decision not to taking her.
i had in mind another unnamed german girl (maybe tatiana) but as she was always occupied by a group of german punter, i couldn’t approach her. i still had the opportunity to have a chubbier fake blond girl, but when i talked, i find out she was roumanian and she was sleepy, all those signs were a “no go” for me.
oops, suddenly, i saw celine. she was previously busy by sessions and also with her dog (she changed and went to walk with the dog then she returned back). she had long hairs which suits her more than short hairs of last year, and her new hairs suits my taste, too. i thought it should be a safe bet to have her. when i sessioned with her last time, we had a really wide and long session. but this time, she was always unavailable and busy with a german punter.
the time is running after midnight, they started to close the lights, it was the time to call it a night. i was unsessioned because of my undecisive and unlucky attitude. my buddy, on the other hand, was lucky and happy, he had a small hungarian girl (her name was jasmine, if i recall well) and he had fun time upstairs. when in the locker room, he asked my listerine because he had daty with her and had fear of keeping something from that wet pussy. when getting out, tashia gave us two more 10 euro discount coupons. now, i had three of them. next time, i won’t do short stays, i am not that lucky in short visits. i should stay there the whole day and i am gonna try to do it on a saturday, in summer time, maybe they will have more girls and more party atmosphere.
fazit: pirates park is still a nice club with nice german girls on the line-up, in majority. they have to pay more attention to cleanliness and they have to update their web page. i saw all the previous girls pictures which already left the house but couldn’t see any new girls picture (except celine) which was present that day in the club.
Atlantik in Hanau,
Anyone have any idea if Atlantik has a dessoustag day? If so, what day might that be? And anyone have any idea what they charge for a beer?
dessoustag day?
My dear Herr Baron von Breadmann...If we are truly to believe that you are descended from German royalty, you'll have to watch the redundancy.
Anyone have any idea if Atlantik has a dessoustag day? If so, what day might that be? And anyone have any idea what they charge for a beer?
If we are to trust their website http://www.atlantik-fkk.de :
- Every Tuesday is a "Straps-Day" (whatever that is ...). The club does not seem to have a regular dessoustag day as we know it from the other clubs.
- It's 5 euro for the beer.
Vito Corleone
03-30-10, 03:22
Anyone have any idea if Atlantik has a dessoustag day? If so, what day might that be? And anyone have any idea what they charge for a beer?
It has been 3 yrs since I've been there, but I remember receiving a coupon for a free beer.
It has been 3 yrs since I've been there, but I remember receiving a coupon for a free beer.
Last year, I visited this venue three times and unfortunately, it seems they discontinue this offer, or they forget to give it to me.
I have been given no such things included in the entrance fee. And I should underline that the food was very bad, in all was visits, even worse than Oase.
Anyone have any idea if Atlantik has a dessoustag day? If so, what day might that be? And anyone have any idea what they charge for a beer?
As Shark 16 already mentioned, they had it on Tuesday, but the girls had soft and sexy lingerie or strips, not heavy underwears, so you can still check some details. I am not a big fan of dessous-tag, but in Atlantik, the dessous-tag was tolerable for me, thanks to the relax zone
The relax zone is in the upper floor, and it is very nice on voyeuristic opportunities. Either you are in the sauna, or in the jacuzzi, you can view the details of nude girls trying to convince punters to go to a room (even in a dessous-tag).
Today, I checked both web pages of FKK Pirates Park and Fkk Point.
First of all, the web page of Pirates Park is updated, today. Till mid of April, the entry price is decrised to 30 Euro. This is a real deal, I should say, compared to normal entry price of 50 Euro and in returns the facility they are providing. And the names and pictures of the girls are more accurate, now.
Then, I realised the web page of FKK Point is totaly changed. The new web page is easy to navigate and faster to check the pictures of the girls etc. But, I did realised that they raised the entrance to 24 Euro (which is still a deal) and they give you a 10 Euro discount coupon for your second visit. But, no more 10 Euro entrance on Mondays. I guess some of us (including myself) would be sorry to hear that, because it was appropriate to check inside for a couple of hours before heading to Pirates Park.
I am into a specific girl in FKK Point, namely Sarita. She is Romanian. Even I don't have a good chemistry with most of the Romanian girls, as general, this one is very different. She worked in London as a sw, then a call girl. I saw her last September on my visit to this area but somehow, she rejected me. That's why I went with Alexa (Bulgarian) and another unnamed (I should check my notes, I didn't report it yet) Hungarian girl. But I had still in my mind to have this girl and I will check-out when I will be in the area at the end of April.
When I was checking girls of each club, through web, I saw Sarita's picture in Point. But in FKK Pirates-park, I also see another girl named Annastasya, which I can swear she is the same girl Sarita of FKK Point; the pictures are here, it is up to you to compare and to decide if they are the same girl and you let me know.
http://www.pirates-park.de/de/girls.php?sg=1&girl=36
http://www.fkkpoint-bruchsal.de/de/sc-girls-39.html
So, I called both clubs. The lady in the phone of FKK Point was not able to speak English. I asked about Sarita. But I guess she didn't understand well, she says "nicht arbeite", I guess she left the club.
Then I called FKK Pirates Park. I asked about Annastasya. The reply was that Annastastya is very beautiful Romanian girl. I asked if she worked previously in FKK Point, but the counter lady didn't know her previous club, neither her previous professional name.
It will be my duty to find out the details when I am in the area three weeks later. And I will also check if she really kisses deeply or not, which she claim she does.
I also asked about the other girls; Ginger has returned, Celine was there, too. Moni wasn't (I guess she quitted). The counter lady told me there are very beautiful newcomer German girls. I will see and report back.
I made my maiden visit to Pirates Park last year in May, and since then, I had four different repeat visits there. Since last year, the club lost its first vibe since there are fewer German girls, now. Most of the time, I have been there on Monday. But I was always curious how it will be on a Saturday evening. This time, I will be there on a Saturday and see if there is more local German girls from Mannheim.
At the end of April, I will start my venture with FKK-safari in Fellbach. This is former and famous FKK-Haus which was converted into a trashy flate-rate Pussy-Club, which was, at the end, closed by the local authorities.
Actually, the premises was one of the best (not to compare Paradise and Flamingo Island, by size, of course) when it was FKK Haus. I will see if it is still any good under the umbrella of Safari.
http://www.fkk-safari.de/site/index.php?site=stuttgart_location
Actually, the chain holds also former FKK Planet in Pforzheim (it ain't good on my last visit, no food, paid soft drinks, only a few doable girls) and also a new club which I didn't visit yet in new Ulm.
http://www.fkk-safari.de/site/index.php
FKK Safari on Saturday afternoon. If I don't click any girl, I will switch to FKK Pirates-Park in the evening, cause it is open till 4 am.
For Sunday, I am between FKK Paradise and FKK Lancelot. What would be your recommendations?
Paradise has a strong line-up and a safer bet, but wanna do a dedicated tour to Lancelot (since I miss an opportunity to do it recently and since I did a visit to its sister club Pascha Paraidise in Schweningen-Villingen). Maybe I could do two hours of Paradise Stuttgart, then switch to Lancelot.
Always decisions, decisions, decisions... It is hard to decide if you have too many opportunities. But I feel good to have so many opportuniies, at hand, by the way...
Travelerb69
03-30-10, 18:02
Terrific reports, C2.
Always venturing on the new clubs... Man, you are probably the forum member with more mileage regarding number of clubs.
Funny that you met Serbian Sonia at a new club, so she is still around, even with a few pounds more as you reported.
Keep up the good work, those of us who can not be at the clubs now really enjoy it.
Best regards, T69.
http://www.fkk-69.de/
Only been open five days. Not heard any reports.
I was originally thinking about Penthouse Weinheim for today, but I was worried because their website is flaky and they actually listed 0 girls as "aktuel".
Based on C2's notes, I decided (since I was already at the Bruchal truck stop rest plaza) to try Pirates Park. Easy to find right off A5 a few minutes. It seems to advertise it is a big club, but it isn't and I am glad! More my style than the big loud clubs, the only drawback is that it is an all-smoking (it seemed) club with all the girls smoking all the time while waiting for someone to talk to or take them to a room.
The facilities are nice and clean and look well-done. Maybe they read C2's report and cleaned up their act! Nice fitness area, big clean showers, plenty of towels, showers are also in many of the rooms and some girls will shower with you. The food was simple but decent with a bigger salad selection than some, and a smaller meat selection. Coffee machine is in the open area so you can make your own. The bar is where most of the lounging and meet ups happen. There is a stage with a pole and girls take turn dancing. I didn't recognize any of the girls named on the site, although "Moni" could have been "Monica" if "Moni" is from the Czech Republic.
If you see my report on Der Popp Club/Haus 5 from yesterday in "Other Partytreffs" the big difference is the full-on GFE experience when you pay 50 instead of the more impersonal sessions when you pay half that. Popp was good for "just plain sex" but Pirates Park was more like serial romancing.
Patricia: The first girl who came up after I smiled at her was Patricia from Bulgaria (she said), warm, tender, started kissing my neck and rubbing my back as I took my first sip of Cola-Lite. She then planted a kiss on me and said, "Hi I am Patricia." Tattoo above her breast of some winged insect, and a tattoo down her spine. Thin but not skinny, perky breasts, a brunette. We chatted for quite a while as I got the sense of the place, and I was happy she made the first move as it was a great first move. Upstairs in the rooms, all reasonably done and quite clean, she re-introduced herself with a big kiss, and after DFK for a few, I played and sucked on her breasts before moving to several extended shudders for her during DATY. She then pulled me up, flipped me over and gave a great BBBJ, before wrapping and mounting. It was wonderful as I finished strong and she kept going for a bit and then slid down and we cuddled for a few before we went downstairs.
I had some of the buffet, rested a bit and then headed back to the bar area.
Tatiana: It wasn't too long before Tatiana, a rather tall blonde with striking features and wonderful English (she is a German from Heidelberg) came over and sat down. I wasn't sure how I would react to her at first, since I normally don't go for women that tall (or they don't go for me!). But she was incredibly warm and considerate, we chatted for quite a while as I nursed a cup of coffee, and as I felt the first awakenings I invited her to a room and off we went. Full GFE, no rush, kissing, DATY, and she really seemed to have reacted well. Even if she was faking, it was a wonderful fake and it made me feel good, so what the heck. She then started kissing me, and worked her way down to my first full deep throat in a long while. I have trouble cumming from oral, so I wasn't too worried about a quick CIM, and my earlier pop with Patricia extended me for quite a while after Tati got on top and even after we switched to me switching to take her from behind. Normally I can't really come a second time without a heckuva lot more recovery, but she managed to get it out of me. We showered together, kissed a lot more, and headed down.
Jessica: a petite Romanian brunette with little puppy paws tattooed coming out of her panties towards her navel! She said it was her chihuahua! Imagine a puppy and a pussy in doggie . . . well, it was what I was thinking. She was in no rush, and I was in no rush, so we cuddled on the couch and chatted for a while. After what could have been 1/2 hour, she wispered "zimmer?" and off we went. The lights in her favorite room weren't working well, so except for a night light it was almost pitch dark. It was fine as long as we were kissing, and I was giving her some DATY, which she said was too sensitive since she recently had her clit pierced, so after a few light licks, she took over for a great BBBJ, and then she hopped on for a while and then we switched. I was hoping to be able to get a better view of her as I took her doggie style, but the room was just too dark. try as I might, I couldn't get fully into it, and as great as it feels to be working a nice, tight, wet pussy, I just couldn't cum. I gave it a few hard final pushes and then I felt her twitch, and it almost put me over, but she collapsed flat before I could try to finish. We cleaned up and kissed and that was that.
Monica: I hoped to have "one more real pop" before heading home, and Monica was the last of the night. Lighter hair, but still brunette, from Czech Republic. She hit all of the "Mark" buttons. No pressure, nice conversation and stroking and caressing at the bar, no rush to go upstairs, but very responsive once we did. It was probably more than 30 minutes by the time we came down, but she didn't say anything and I even offered her double if she could guess my lock box. She giggled, guessed wrong, and I gave her the 50 and off she went to shower.
I noticed a couple more that I would love to come back for, but I was done for the night and headed north. The next exit was a Tank 'n Rast with a T-Mobile connection, so I stopped off to write this before I forgot the names.
What I have learned in 2 days:
PT style place
Good for fucking
CBJ + mish, ok at best
Few doable girls 4/6
No food, some drinks
Rooms are not so nice
4 sessions, 100 euro
FKK-style place (at least a small club)
Better for Sex
BBBJ, DFK, DATY, 69, great sex in mult. pos.
All beautiful girls, not all my style but very doable.
Great food, great variety of drinks
Wonderful decor adds to the sexual atmos.
4 sessions, 230 euro
---------------------------------------------------------- <------bottom line?
You get what you pay for.
I continue to enjoy finding the smaller full service FKK's, so thanks to C2 and other posters for sharing. I don't need 50 girls if I am only going to see 3 or 4. :) The added point of comparison is that in the several PT or pseudo-PT fixed price places I have been, the chance of girls speaking English is much lower than the FKK's in general, I think representing the higher class of girl working there.
YMMV, JMO, etc.
Mark
Hi Mark User,
Congratulations for this very nice report and update about the club. So, the self service coffee machine was repaired already. It was out of order when I recently visited more than a week ago.
And I am glad that you had nice time there, after all my recommendations. Moni (or Monica) was one of the first girl I had sampled in Pirates, back last year in May, and yes, she was from Czech republic, and as I recall well, she has nice DFK and she has one of the best BBBJ in the house (some girls even do covered BJ, there). The food, IMHO, is not that good. I prefer the one in FKK Point (but this is a personal taste).
Yes, at the end of the day, you get what you pay for it. In Baden Wurtemberg Partytreffs, you don't get much service in return of your 100 bucks (this is not NRW), but if you can spend another more 100 Euro, you can have a real fantastic day in a small FKK, with cheaper entry. I have done several nice day at FKK Point with 110 Euro (10 Euro entry + 2 good sessions of your chosen girl) quite the same spending of a trash Partytreff nearby, such as Muschi Club, in Karslruhe.
By the way, did you happen to see if Annastasia was there, the day you paid the visit?
Iceberg Slim
04-01-10, 11:04
New FKK Club in Hamburg (open since 27 March 23, 2010). No report yet
http://fkk-babylon.com/
Hi Mark User,
Congratulations for this very nice report and update about the club. So, the self service coffee machine was repaired already. It was out of order when I recently visited more than a week ago.
Like I said, maybe they read the board and acted on your recommendations! :)
...
The place was absolutely DEAD!, there were 14 girls max and to be honest, I almost left without a session. My friend didn't find anything to his liking, and for a moment I thought he/we might have a "thing" with one of the girls. ... I told her I couldn't justify a full 60 euro entry fee to get the kind of offering I saw. She agreed with me and said I should tell the manager. I told her I would if he had a moment.
The manager walked out and said to me, "are 14 girls not enough for you". I said that it wasn't just the number, but the quality wasn't as good as last time and that I probably wouldn't return absent some changes.
I tried Sharks tonight, and I could have written your report above and just changed the date. While there were two or three I found to my liking it took a long time for me to find them as they came on shift, most that were there when I arrived were chubs with way too much make up and way too pushy.
The two cutest never left the bar, just smoked and checked their handi's for e-mail and messages. I have no idea why they were in the place. They didn't session with anyone that I could tell in 4 hours.
The ones I went for were:
Morgana: short, blonde Bulgarian, intense DFK, excellent oral skills, tasty DATY, flexible. Seemed shy and only went with a few guys all night but she was good. I almost went for seconds.
Lucy: Blonde with a few piercings, also good kisser, reactive to DATY, very good.
Samantha: Blond Turkish wears her hair pulled tight in a small pony-tail, well-tattooed (including "eyes" on her shoulders that make taking her from behind interesting!!), great kisser and DATY and cuddler. She looks like she could be working the room, but she was great with me at least.
The ones I avoided: Valeria, Celina (could have been Serena), Marta.
Food was ok. First time there and it is a huge club and felt very very empty. Quite a few punters just sitting around without going to rooms with anyone, so it wasn't just me thinking the quality just wasn't there over all.
Mark
I tried Sharks tonight, and I could have written your report above and just changed the date.
I will be in Frankfurt in a couple of weeks and had placed FKK-SHARKS on my list of 'Alternative' clubs because it looks so simple to reach via Public Transit. But it would appear that even that perk cannot save it. The line up will still have to improve.
This is only my 2nd voyage to FKK land, (the 1st was last April), so I do not wish to waste precious moments, (not to mention Euros) on clubs that I am not sure of.
Thank you both, & the others who have reported on the 'new' clubs.
Myr.
http://www.das5element.de/
Entrance now every day in April is 40 Euro.
B30
I just want to be clear I liked the club, I found 3 girls I liked, but if your goal is to pick 3 out of 30 you could have liked, this isn't that club yet.
One thing I should mention is that there is couch action for the warm up. No BBBJ's, but DFK, mutual massage, breast play. At least with the three I went with. Maybe its just me, but I much prefer this warm up than the alternative, which is a girl jumps up as soon as you approach her and says "Zimmer" let's go to a room. . . .that almost always changes my mind!
So Sharks is on my "once per trip after others" list, but I wouldn't, for instance, be going back on this trip just to see the same 3 girls.
Hope this helps!
Mark
Okay, IMHO this is a little different than your first post:
... While there were two or three I found to my liking it took a long time for me to find them as they came on shift, most that were there when I arrived were chubs with way too much make up and way too pushy.
The two cutest never left the bar, just smoked and checked their handi's for e-mail and messages. I have no idea why they were in the place. They didn't session with anyone that I could tell in 4 hours.
I viewed the original post as a warning against Sharks, while the update seems to be more of a caution flag. And that's okay with me.
I too like to take a little test drive rather than commit instantly, it's part of shark (the girl, not the club) avoidance.
So, I guess I could put Sharks back on my Alternative, after all others, with caution list. Because in reality, if I 'do' more than 3 girls a night it would be a miracle, so to choose from 14 is not that bad if the quality is there. Too many to choose from and I'm like a kid in a candy store and over load.
Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
Myr.
yes, perhaps my jet lag made me shade things as a negative. The main point is everybody has different tastes, and there are certainly a few girls that remind you of the best at the best clubs. When I saw that you were scratching them off your list, I felt a bit guilty since *I* managed to have a good time after all; but I wanted guys on the list to know that the place is a nice place, but they haven't yet attracted large numbers of very attractive (in my opinion) girls. But they do have some, and your tastes may be different.
Heck seeing the "cave-shaped" rooms and the massive staircase may be enough to warrant going just to see :)
Mark
Finding myself near Bruschal, I was torn between a visit to Flaminko in Karlsruhe, or trying the Point near Pirates (or even going back to Pirates). A note from C2 convinced me to try the Point, and what a surpise to realize that I had actually been there some 5 or 6 years ago. It was bigger than I remembered from before; it seems to now have a larger shower area and sauna and jacuzzi and an extra room for resting. My earlier memory was of only the small bar room and the kino. There is a very small room where the food is put out (great food) but no tables to enjoy it; most of the guys (and there really weren't very many guys during my visit) went to sit in the bar to eat.
The bar was just as small as I remembered it, with girls taking up much of the space on the red vinyl benches. But the girls were friendly and cute. I could have seen myself sessioning with any of them. My plan for today was to see what happened by chance and not try to choose too much. I also planned to spend as long a day as I could. This describes my almost 7 hours in the Point.
Camilla: After showering and getting a sense of the place, I went to the bar and Camilla, a short brunette, asked what I wanted to drink and helped me get my key attached to my wrist in a more comfortable way. She came to sit with me, snuggled up, and just gave me a warm kiss, lots of little kisses, and caressed me as I nursed the cola-light. I decided to see how long this would last and the answer is at least 20 minutes of couch time with DFK, breast play her pushing under the towel to give a gentle hand job, and me rubbing her, too. We then went upstairs to a room, and it was another complete 1/2 hour of kissing, DATY, BBBJ, 69, mish, and her ending on top for a very extended sensual cowgirl ride. Afterwhich she kept me inside but leaned down and more kissing. So nearly an hour of time with the girl, but only the 1/2 hour in the room was charged; I wasn't sure until I gave her 50 euros she seemed just gave a big smile, another kiss, and I was off to the showers.
I resisted the invitation of Veronica (brunette with highlights) and Alina (blonde) who were in the jacuzzi to join them. Not sure where they were from but their spanish was at least as good as mine; it was too soon and I needed the shower and rest.
I tried the buffet, and it was quite good. At the bar, I met Vanessa (thin blonde) from Poland and Sinee (?) from Bulgaria, and while resting in the larger room was introduced to Roseanne from Turkey and Elizabeth from Bulgaria. I asked about Sarita and no one knew (sorry C2).
Sinee: After a bit of a nap, Sinee just came over and sat on my lap, rubbing herself, nibbling on my ear, kissing, and then just snuggling up. She is a thin, tall bruneete who wore here hair in a long braided tail that went down to her butt. Again my idea was to just see how far this would go and as long as I said "pauzen" and closing my eyes, she kept with the kisses and reached under my towel. I said "it's kaput" but sure enough after about 10 minutes, he came to life and she started grabbing it a bit harder while really kissing deep so I couldn't resist (nor did I actually want to. So upstairs, and I think I needed some time to recover still, so I gave her extended breast play and DATY, and she gave me an extended BBBJ and then swung her leg over for 69, and then she rode for a while before we switched and we finished in doggie.
Mia: light brown haired German, from Baden Baden. Excellent English, and she found me resting in the larger room, and we talked and cuddled and kissed on the couch for quite some time before heading up stairs. Again, the total time was about an hour. I could see why C2 likes this place. No rushing, pleasant, extended times, and the girls spoke enough English, Spanish or French that we could talk. I got to know some things about them as we spent time. The rooms with real beds were taken, so we ended up in the jacuzzi room upstairs that had a vinal raised area, which even with the towels we put down, just wasn't as conducive to fun. Mia was wonderful, she got me hard with amazing tongue and deep throat skills, but try as I might, I couldn't cum again so soon, but it was wonderful anyway. Maybe if the mood didn't break as we made noises on the plastic!
Vanessa: After a small snack, I really did need a nap, and I got one, maybe a full 1/2 hour of sleep. I was awakend with a kiss from Vanessa, who had at some point laid down next to me on the bigger couch where I was, and she didn't say much, just put her head on my shoulder and said it was ok if I just wanted to sleep! I moved my arm to hold her and caress her back, and we must have been there for easily half an hour or more. I noticed this with some of the other girls and older guys, they would be with them in this larger room on the 3 larger couches and no one seemed to be in a rush. We did find ourselves upstairs and because I had much more recovery time -and didn't cum with Mia as much as I wanted to- it was a good cum, and I decided I was done for the day.
Monica: This black-haired very thin striking beauty from Romania, who had spent 10 years in England, had other ideas. Because I wanted a second helping of the wonderful roast chicken and potatoes and dark german bread before I left, I was sitting at the bar as Monica was putting dishes away, and we chatted a bit, and she was so friendly and she got me a cola-light, and came around the bar and sat on a stool next to me while I ate, and she wrapped her arm around me, played with my hair, and I just couldn't help but notice her small firm breasts had the most perfect eraser nipples that just stood out and called to be sucked on. At that point, I decided I just had to hold out until I could recover and try; not to worry, she just stayed with me in the bar, then we went and laid down in the larger room, and only when I was ready did we go upstairs and end the evening with me pumping out a "dry cum" -not a fake, just hardly anything came out. I had been drained. I made a note that if I get back here before I leave, I would start with Monica and then Mia or Vanessa, or even any of the other girls I saw but didn't go with.
The 24 euro entrance is nice, and the fact that so few guys were around made it better for me. Maybe it was the holiday Satruday with guys spending family time, but it was great for me. I had plenty of time to recover between sessions. So close to Pirates which I had enjoyed (Industristrasse 22 vs. 6) earlier in the week, so Bruschal is easily on my list when working in the Heidelberg/Karlsruhe area.
Mark
I had actually decided to head to either Das5 or Rom, but as I got north of Mannheim there was a huge stau and I decided to try for the first time one of the small clubs that I had heard about but hadn't visited.
Between Heidelberg and Frankfurt, Night and Day is off 47 at the Lorsch exit on A5, a nice small club with a very nice "19 euro for 90 minute" special everyday. If you go even one minute over, they add 20 euro fee on exit (so 39 euro is the most you'd pay as a fee). The frau also emphasized two or three times that the girls work for themselves, and that one shouldn't even touch them without understanding what was charged and what wasn't. This may have been caution, but I found the girls were friendly, and at least in the one case here, only expected the usual 50 for the 1/2 hour in the room.
Pro: Very intimate, easy to move around, enough relax rooms and space to rest and a small kino if you want. Nice food, and a well-stocked bar. Massage available. Robes free. All the girls seem friendly and nearly all quite cute. Special Note for Americans living 2nd childhood: THEY HAVE REAL PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY!! You know, sometimes, it's great to just be simple.
Con (not for me today but just so you guys know what the situation is): very few girls in total; keep in mind this was a holiday Sunday so I don't know in general. But there were about 8 girls there. I was told that 10-12 would be the most on a normal day.
My plan: try for 2 in the 90 minute limit.
As soon as I got ready, I noticed a very cute blonde, Nicole from Czech, and we chatted just a bit in the hall; I thought she had finished with someone but it turned out she was just starting. Change of plans. I'd wait for her to session and rest and that would be my "one for the road."
I waited in the bar area, met Marsha from Poland (blond, zaftig), Kira from Romania (brunette, thin, C cup), and Suzie from Germany (black hair, thin, b cup, very erect nipples). As soon as some guy came in, apparently a regular, Kira and Suzie both went over to him, planted him with kisses and hugs, and stayed with him as he drained a pint. Then he ordered three pints and the three of them went off to a room leaving me to chat with Marsha just a bit.
After about 30 minutes, Nicole came in with a big smile and wearing nothing but Dior, came over and led me to a couch. 53 minutes left. We spent about 11 of them getting to know each other with light kisses and caresses, and stories about learning English and German, and then we went to a room. It was a very full half hour with wonderful kissing and DATY and 69 and then CG/Mish and finish from behind. Cuddling was fun, but now *I* was the clock watcher and I showered and left. 87 minutes. They clock you in on their register/computer so they really know when you clock out!
I was glad I visited. For 69 euro total for one really good session with one girl, I think it may be my "one shot" reserve special place.
Mark
I drove south after Night and Day and wasn't planning on stopping, but as I passed Weinheim, I decided to investigate whether Penthouse was really closed as it seemed to be from their broken website.
Penthouse is no more. It has been renovated as Ginger's FKK.
http://www.gingers-fkk-club.de/
Red-colored signs on all the windows give the whole inside a red "glow." The frau speaks excellent English (Ginger?) and is very nice, and very honest. She said there were only 2 girls because of the holiday, and one of them was busy. she said normally she tries to have 8-10 girls. She invited me to take a tour, and she showed me all the work she had done since January (they have been open since February) and I could see they fixed the shower, improved the sauna upstairs, refurbished the rooms, cleaned the place up. Alas, no buffet any more and they charge per drink including softdrinks.
The entrance fee, however, is only 10 euros. The website implies entrance is free, which it is, technically, but you pay 10 euros for the shower, shoes, and towel! The website has a link to a flyer that was available listing Tuesday's as really free entrance and other specials.
I decided not to stay after seeing the 2nd girl was a very short, but very wide girl, a decision I *almost* changed as I saw the first girl who had been busy as she was a real knockout. But with the taste and smell of Nicole still a fresh memory, I decided that I should go but would let you guys know that this former PT is now operating as a small but intimate FKK.
(I'll put this in Other Partytreff, too)
First of all, you won't regret you didn't make Flamingo Island. This place was one of the best in the area, untill Paradise near Stuttgart airport had been established in February 2008. After that, all the best girls went to Stuttgart and the punters followed them. Even the French punters push some more CO2 to reach to Stuttgart, instead of Karlsruhe, nowadays and FI lost its vibe, for me.
Regarding the girls attitude in Point: I already stated that the girls are very very friendly, there. Even not all of them were beautiful, they have all this easy-going attitude. Even if you had rejected some girls after having some couch time (because you don't have more stamina), this wouldn't be a problem, I guess.
There are some top girls alongside some less beautiful ones, but all girls asks about your needs, your desires, if you need any drinks or so, you feel yourself like a king, there, but wake-up, you are not in Thailand, you are in South Germany. I dream if we can just put the girls attitude into Pirates girls bodies, it would just be perfect. And if we could put this food in pirates food court, it could be perfect, too. Pirates has a nice arrangement on food court but the food simply doesn't match my taste.
Pirates has good facilities but the girls are sometimes distant, girls are friendly in Point but the facilities lacks. If we can put all together, it could be a perfect match, very close to Karlsruhe region.
I am glad that you had crossed Mia, the German girl, she doesn't do weekdays so I couldn't meet her, yet. She is reported very good if she have good chemistry with the guy but she can give also some crap service if she doesn't click with the punter. So, she is a though nut, but I can see you have cracked the shell and eaten the nut, inside. Sorry that you couldn't find a comfortable room while you are with Mia :)
Normally, Saturday should be more crowded (maybe, this is due to Easter) and when there is a show, it is supposed there should be more social time with the girls, because the girls also follow the shows within you.
I checked again the pictures of the girls; only three of them are familiar to me (including Mia and sarita). My last visit was in September, last year. I didn't report it yet, but would be useless if most of the girls has changed, already.
I wish I could ROD your series of report, but it is too complicated, as I am not that familiar with those computers. I am sure somebody else will do it.
You have also visited a club on my to do list, which I didn't make it yet; FKK Night and Day. But if I go, I would stay more than 90 minutes, inside, if the facilities are good enough. I have tested recently Pirates for two hours, and short stay didn't work for me.
Keep up the good work and do continue to discover more clubs in this area, Pal. Tantra could be a nice alternative and you could also go to Saarland where there are more clubs which didn't have enough report, yet.
improved the sauna upstairs, refurbished the rooms, cleaned the place up. Alas, no buffet any more and they charge per drink including softdrinks.
The upstairs relax area was fine, when I visited the place as it was FKK Labryinth. The sauna was out of order or somewhat, it was written something in German that I didn't get the meaning. I tried to turn on and heat the sauna and had some relax time inside. Then later, went done to shower and have more relax with Polish girls. Two hours later, one of the two thekefraus went to the lobby room, asked in german who did utilise the sauna and shouted like she was crazy something that I didn't understand. I guess I broke a rule of the club, but couldn't find the answer yet. Maybe, I aslo broke the heating system of the sauna, I don't know, or maybe, they didn't want to spend electricity for the sauna. But I still have big laughs, when I remember the fat woman spitting while shouting like crazy...
So, another PT in this area bites the dust. The recent reporst when it was Labyrinth was shitty, so, I didn't high hopes for Penthouse, as well.
I checked the web site and checked some of the Ginger's girls. Maybe, I can pay visit there, when in the area, in summer time. Did you ask the price per session, still 50 Euro/30 min?
Mark User, I can see that you started to have more taste to FKKs than Partytreffs. Of course, there is no real PT in this area, this is not NRW, in the end...
So, another PT in this area bites the dust. The recent reporst when it was Labyrinth was shitty, so, I didn't high hopes for Penthouse, as well.
I checked the web site and checked some of the Ginger's girls. Maybe, I can pay visit there, when in the area, in summer time. Did you ask the price per session, still 50 Euro/30 min?
Mark User, I can see that you started to have more taste to FKKs than Partytreffs. Of course, there is no real PT in this area, this is not NRW, in the end...
I was at Penthouse almost once/year and the upstairs sauna was out of order, and the showers needed work. I always found 2 or 3 and sometimes 4 girls to session with. I could count on it as at least 2 cheap good sessions for less than 100 euro. Clearly Ginger has upgraded the facilities so this is a "new start" I think in an old address.
50 euro per half hour standard.
Maybe I'll get to NRW someday, but for now, "arbeit macht frei" and I only have consulting work in the lower areas and very little off-time to drive 3 hours north.
Heading home today. No more for quite some time. The American military community continues to lower its presence in Germany, and so my time is proportionately smaller.
Crown Comfort
04-06-10, 21:20
Hi everyone,
I want to share my experience at the Harem Club in Erkrath near Duesseldorf. (http://www.harem-platinum.de)Before I go into the details, a couple of points I need to make.
This was my very first visit to an FKK Club. In general I value my privacy and I usually shy away from these clubs. But obviously, something that needs to be tried at least.
Secondly, Harem is a Flatrate club. You pay an entrance fee of 100 EUR and that gives you food, non-alcoholic drinks and as much sex as you like - no extra charges - for a total of 4 hours. There has been much debate about flatrate clubs in Germany how they devalue the girls or even force them to unwanted sex. Someone even suggested to enforce a law against flatrate clubs. What I could figure is that the girls do get paid for their services as they keep book who takes a client to a room and I guess they have some kind of formula to share the day’s takings. For me the flatrate concept was the key selling point as you know your losses when you enter the club so it was an easy one to try the concept of FKK.
General impressions of the Club
My impression this is a rather small club. There seems to be a sister club next door (Atrium Sauna Club). There is one main room with a bar and a separate (non-smoking) dining room. The changing room is quite small and the lockers are not exactly safe. Overall not new facilities but cleanliness is okay. The rooms are functional and have a door for full privacy. There is also action in the Kino (Telly) room and a small Sauna. Didn’t see a Jacuzzi which would have been a nice way to relax. The food is a daily menu and you order what you like. It was eatable but nothing special.
Girls Line-up
That was the main problem I had with this place. I got there at around 7pm and there were maybe a dozen girls. 3 blacks (one of them was fairly hot) I was not interested in unless as a last resort. Maybe 7-8 South-Americans which I would rate below a 4, so not doable for my taste. I got immediately harassed by a rather “large” example who was also quite rude. Took me some effort to free myself from her. So I decided to have some food first and see if there will be something better later on.
While eating my dinner, I spotted an Asian at the bar. She was slim, petite, nice legs and had a pretty face. She easily outshined the rest of them. There was also a horny blonde but she was easily 1.90m tall and looked like trouble.
Joy from Thailand
To start with the conclusion, Joy saved my evening and made me leave with a big smile. I rushed down my food and headed to the bar to speak to the Asian. Her name was Joy from Thailand. Hmm, Thai, normally my least favourate Asian flavor. (I’m not talking food, I love a good Thai Curry). But as Joy was pretty much the only girl in the club that made me horny I had my choice made. It turned out (haha how often did I hear that before but it seemed to be true as the staff didn’t know her name) to be her first day in the club. Well, congrats for hiring her.
I ended up having two sessions with Joy after which I left early but totally drained. She was a very very passionate kisser (DFK), very clean and good smell and taste, a proper PSE, excellent BBBJ with rimming, tight pussy and athletic skills.
Looks: 8-9
Attitude: 10
Service/Skills: 10
Repeat factor: 100%
So , this club gave an unbelievable value for money but I think I won’t become a great fan of FKK going forward. I may try it again but the overall set-up is not my cup of tea. The combination of flatrate and FKK is an interesting one but I truly believe I would have had a disappointing evening if it wasn’t for my luck with Joy.
Stay safe.
Thanks for the report Crown Comfort. The information that you have provided is very valuable. I have added your report to the Reports of Distinction thread.
You should try some of the bigger FKK Clubs near to Dusseldorf such as GoldenTime and LivingRoom before discounting all FKK clubs.
The flatrate type clubs are very different and much poorer by comparrison.
CD
Ok, this report was pending for maybe 6 months and I have decided not to publish it (because there is a constant turn-over for girls) but I had demands for some of those clubs which are not reported that often. So, now, I have decided to do a resumée, will cut it short, not many feedback on girls but about the premises and some more info about the pricing structues.
I have done this trip back to last September, during my visit to the FKKland for IAA motor Show, but I changed a little bit my itinerary to South (in order to get away from the madding crowd).
I have started with a former flat rate club in Heidelberg. Now, it is 25 Euro Club, 25 Euro to get in and each session for 25 Euro. I paid nearly 100 Euro for entritt and 3 sessions. It is a shithole, nothing to write home about and I can’t recommend this club to the forumers who has a taste of quality. Web site here;
http://www.25-euro-club.com/
and detailed report can be found here;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=940688&postcount=23
FKK Club Pascha Paradise
After this Heidelberg club, I drove further South, to find-out what is going out there, in Southern Germany. I drove to Karslruhe, then via A8 to Stuttgart and continue down the Black Forest further South, near the Swiss border and reached this pretty old (five years old) establishment and well known club by locals: FKK Pascha-Paradise (they converted the name now to FKK Pascha but they have still in their web a note of Pascha Paradise) in Villingen Schweningen. Because of its generic name, this club is always confused with
a) Paradise in Stuttgart (even it is newer, it is much bigger, had more success and word of mouth, and it is easier to reach, in a few miles from Stuttgart airport)
b) With the Pacha chain estabisled in Cologne and Munich
I have discovered those confusions even I checked the special thread Jackson opened already. The thread utilised mainly for Pascha in Cologne. So, I will put the same report on its proper thread, as well. The latest report is dated to 2007, so it would be a new discovery for me.
FKK Club Pascha (Villingen-Schwenningen)
www.fkk-pascha.de
It was a Saturday evening. I arrived at 8 pm, found the club easily by GPS. There was enough space in the parking area. Paid 50 Euro for the entrance and received key. The locker area is not so tight but this is an open area for passage to the room, not a special room arrangement. Got changed and checked the premises, line-up and also the food. I saw the food run-out already but later, I discovered they had barbecue outside (for the weekend-grilled pork, steak and wurz). The barbecue was delicious. After charging my batteries, I checked the line-up. There were more or less 20 girls. I think this should be maximum number of girl they had, because this was a weekend. In weekdays, expect some less girls. The main majority was Romanian girls, but there were also a few Polish, Chezch, Hungarian, Russian and Brazilian girls, I didn’t see much German girls, maybe the elderly MILF’y types were German but younger bloods were from the rest of the world. Some girls came from Globe (Zurich) so an approuved quality. The Romanian girls were one of the most beautifuls I have ever seen, across Germany. I guessed, as the club is close to Zurich, the clientele should be picky for pretty girls (as Zurich famous clubs are well known for their beautiful girls and extreme service quality).
Especially, the club seems to a barrack in adesert, from outside view and wasn’t so promising to me. The inside decoration also is dated and giving clue of the premises ages. In the entrabce, there is a small bar and the counter is a further away this bar. There is a medium sized contact area. The decoration and illumination reminds me I am in a cave. The small kino is constructed by divinding the countact room by pillars and some flowers, but actually, it is possible to interact with the other part of the club. After the contact lounge, there is a second area, close to the outdoor and it seems to me that the building extended recently by adding this area. There are also couches, a sauna and a pole for dancers in this area.
The outdoor is very nice actually, consisting of a second sauna, some cabanas, long chairs and a small pool. As this was chilly September, and since it was evening, I didn’t get used to it much but could be nice in a summer time. I like those outdoor facilities of FKK, if only summer was a bit longer in Germany. In contrast, in Spain, they have lovely weather but only a few club has outdoor and msot clubs opens its door in the evening time. A German FKK set up, in Spain (and especially close to the beach side) wouch be a perfect mix for summer, IMHO).
In Pascha Paradise and in its sister club FKK Lancelot, the price for a session of 30 min is 60 Euro. I guess, this is due that the clubs is close to Switzerland and Swiss clubs ar much more expensive. The only FKK in Germany, If I recall well, where you pay 60 Euro is FKK Artemis in Berlin. I don’t know if the services justify the price difference but the service in Pascha was a standart BBBJ, continued with several positions of sex.
In Pascha, I also saw that lots of local punters has tendancy to order a piccolo or a normal size Sekt. This, of course, extend your social time with the girl in the couch and maybe increase the quality of service you get in the room. But, in my case, I never done it. For me, to invest 150 Euro for a silly bottle of champagne, where you can buy it for 3 Euro, in the Aldi at the next corner, is really throwwing money down the drain. Instead of that, if I like the service of the girl, I can reebook her for an hour and spend my time in the room, but everybody has its own taste.
That night, I also saw some French speaking guy (as its sister club Lancelot is frequented much by the French punters, maybe this club makes a promotion for the visitor of Lancelot) but the majority of the clientele was pretty much local types (the club is very far to the big cities of German, it is not an easy reach for French punters, too).
I booked two girls that night. I went to a room with a slighlt well built Polish girl Sara. The room was ok and the session was also ok. This happen before midnight. After that, I rested in the kino and returned some very nice looking Romanian girls, in the kino (In kino, the girls can approach you and can touch you, but they are not aggressive, so, I was ok being touch and waken up, but didn’t go to a second room before recharching my batteries which are run-out because of the long driving time). They close the club at four am in the morning. At 3 am, I wake up, left the kino, checked my opportunities around, and I picked one of the most beautiful available Romanian girl to a room. This time, it was Gabriella. In this club, they have a strange habit like ringing a bell when a new room is booked. Gabriella choosed a really big room, with a big jacuzzi inside, maybe, the size of the room can let to organize an orgy party (actually, that was the only room available and I guess, if you want to book on a normal time, you should give some extra for this room, especially, but I don’t give an shit of that).
Gabriella was nice in the room but she was a bit stressed. She says this is very close to their closing time and she thinks that I can not finish in 30 minutes and she doesn’t wanna get trouble with the housemeister, just for that. I tried to relax her and tried to have fun in this limited amount of time. But she was right. I could hardly finished in her hands, but I needed that happy end, before I leave the club. I was one of the last people who leave the club, all together with another local punter who ordered a big bottle of champagne for a girl. When leaving the club, I realised that guy changed with a construction worker suit and drives a 20 years old wreck. Maybe he spends all his money to girls...
RESULT: It was a discovery and a goal for me to achieve. Been there, done that. So, you don’t have to (if you are not desperatly stuck in this area). The club didn’t justify my efforts to drive, neither the service of girls didn’t justify the price differentiation (price structure is 60 Euro/30 min) even they have a lovely and pretty small line-up. The best is the outdoor which can be an attraction point during summer time. Will also visit it sister club FKK Lancelot soon (just discover the reason why it is so freuented by French, just the distance from Strasbourg or are there any other quality in Lancelot?).
My opinion for Pascha; If you can drive further South Germany, drive some more to reach Zurich. You will have lots of nice clubs. Even it is much more expensive than Germany, sometimes, you get what you pay for it.
FKK Panorama (Villingen)
http://www.clubpanorama.de/
After my venture to Pascha, on Saturday, I wanted to visit a new club, still in this area. It should be not much than 6 km from Pascha. The name of the club is Panorama. This is supposed smaaller thaan Pascha, but the premises seems modern and shiny. But my GPS navigtion had always difficulites to locate the club, so I though maybe it was closed but the web page still working and up to date. The service is still 60 Euro/30 min. But as I couldn’t find it, another discovery is failed. And I returned to Black Forest to see my relatives and have a rest day this Sunday.
FKK Point again (Bruchsal) follwed by FKK Atlantik (Hanau)
On Monday, I drove again to North. The final destination was Frankfurt but I could do some stopovers along the road. I get used to cheap entry to Point on Mondays (it was 10 Euro, but unfortunately, it is discontinued and not available any more).
I saw a completely new line-up, compared my last visit (except Alex or Alexia).
I started with a nice looking Hungarian girl Paula. She had beautiul eyes. In the room, the service is mediocre.
After Paula, I spotted Alexia from Bulgaria. I gave a forumers (from a French forum) best regards to her. She was attracted, she offered to go to the kino, actually I prefer a room but I follewed her to the cinema. She started with a nice BBBJ, then slip a condom and set over me, But there were some viewers and she was distracted, couldn’t concentrate and rushed me. That is why we should finish it in 20 min. After the session, she excuse her and told it was a fault to do in the cinema. Yeah, I totaly agree, but only a 50 bucks thrown, that is still ok.
For a last round, before I had back the road, I had in mind a very pretty girl. Her name was Sarita, she had decent English. She told she was working as an escort in London. And this day in Point, she was on high demand, and it was not that easy to catch her alone. It was 6 pm, I should return to Frankfurt area to meet friends. At last, I saw Sarita sitting alone, I sat next to her and start so scan her. She had a rounded ass and lovely curves upstairs. We were nearly ready to go for a room, but later she checked my friend and she told she had a small pussy for it. I am really disappointed. I will still look for her, next week, when in the area, I guess she might be in Pirates, but who knows...
After this, I left the club and drove to Hanau. I suppose to meet friends in FKK Atlantik, I get used to happy hour entry for 39 Euro, between 8 pm and 9 pm. But my dear friends already left Atlantik and went to Oase, instead. I was alone again. I checked Sara. She was busy and soon, she left. Atlantik waas calm on that Mondy evening. I went to the relax zone and get some rest. Soon, a few girls tried to engage and join me, first a Dominican gir, later two Romanian girls. After I receive some free of charge treatment, I get ride of them saying I am tired and should relax. Later, a young Russian girl joined me. After a well 20 min soft action in the sofa, we went to a room. Her name was Valeria. She was good in the room. She had a small, tight and pale body, she says she was from Moscow. After a long, nice and slow BBBJ, she put a condom and rode me. I did mish later. She was kissng but not deeply and passionately. After doggie, I finished in spoon.
After having this last round, it was a time to call it another night, it was 1 am and I would have a long bussiness day, tomorrow.
Bahama Club - Maintal
http://www.bahama-club.de/
After a long and stressfull business day, I decide I deserve a special relaaxation treatment and went directly to Bahama Club. This iss a very small club in Maintal (east of Frankfurt). My oter friends went to World yesterday evening but the line-up weren’t so good, then they decided to go to Oase. They reported back to me, that the line-up in Oase was extremely well, with lots of platinium blondes. But I would like to be far away from the crowd so I choose to go to Maintal, alone again. As happy hour, I paid 25 Euro for entrance. This night, the buffet was very nice, even the buffet is very small. Actually, I had in mind to meet Janeta from Poland but she was always busy with a punter which he doesn’t let her gp. There were on the TV room, lying and watching. I utilised sauna, had some water later and decide to check the TV room, what is going there. Marie also was there, a very beautiful German girl. I take Marie as a second option. Janeta doesn’t seem to be free because she was going upstairs with the same guys, and during the recuparation, they were all together in the TV room (where they are also allowed to smoke). So, I deceided to give it up and try my luck with Marie.
Marie should be one of the main asset of Bahama. She was a nice discovery in the room, we had a very very long session, intimate kissing and fucking, it lasted more than 30 min. She says she worked formerly in Palace but she doesn’t like to be in big clubs (my reflection with a vagina). She is young, tight and has a lovely body. She could speak Polish, that is why I was confused. I told I was there to see Janeta but I was happy to be able to see. She told me, Janeta and she, was living together. First, I though, she was kidding. Later, she showed me a ring that Janeta gave her, they should be engaged. Marie was a good kisser and fucker, even for a lesbian girl. I wish to meet her again, if I have chance. She likes boys too, I suppose. This intimacy shouldn’t be only for job obligation, or Mary was also a good actresse. Somebody who know her, please advice. Both girls, Janette and Marie has their pictures in the web, but I am not sure if they are still there. The web page is not up to date for ages.
FKK Fleigenblatt – Worms
I had a few hours from the flight. A friend of mine wanted to see an FKK Club nearby. It could be wise to visit Fleigenblatt for a short stay (15 Euro entrance, drinks are paid, no food). Actually, I wanted a visit to Tantra (Kaiserslautern) but it could be so far, for this jurney. We reached the club at 12 am. They were a party that night, so there were enough girl for noon time. The lady in the counter told there will be more girls coming for the party in the evening, we explained we don’t have that much time. I gave my colleague a guided tour, where we crossed Vicki (Victoria) from Russia. I had lovely moments twice, a year ago, with her so I could recommend her to my friend. So, her took her (If he doesn’t took, I can rebook Vicki once more, happily, because she is a safe bet for me). And I had in mind an Ukranian girl but she told she doesn’t kiss and BJ is covered so I declined. There was another option, a MILFy well built Russian women, but she was busy all the time when I was there. I saw Christina of Poland, she kept some weight. There were enough other girls but there was nothing I fancy to go for a room. So, I waited my friend in the kino. He came down disappointed. Vicki didn’t let him kiss her nipples, no DFK, and as he had a PE, he take a second round with her and paid 100 Euro for a 30 min. He wasn’t that happy, but it was his first FKK experiment. I had totally different impression with Vicki, last year.
The trip continues after this Sharks visit;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=992825&postcount=2213
I previously heard the name of Fulda because of the business, this is a well known German brand of automobile tires. After starting my mongering career in Germany, I get used to the geography in that country. First things first, I learn where are the main cities, and where are located the main clubs, then it followed the best flight connections to those cities. The second phase was to learn the names and locations of some Federal German states, and also some smaller cities and even small towns I had to discover in order to visit those lovely clubs spread across the German countryside.
I know now that Fulda is not only a tire brand, also a mountain town in Hessen. Das5Element attracted my attention when BasketCase heads me up last year. I guess there were a story about an Oase girl who went there to get a job. Since then, I had in mind to see this new club. But I had to wait and had to do it until this winter time. The opportunity arrise when BasketCase propose to change their initial discovery plans and switched from Paradise (Stuttgart) to Das5Element. That plan suits me well because I didn’t feel I was capable and young enough to drive 250 km to South and return back for a single day visit (Fulda was also located 110 km away from Frankfurt airport, not that close enough, too).
http://www.das5element.de/
We had a get together in the newly opened The Sharks the day before and we suppose to meet the next day in Fulda for Das 5 Element, with Captain Dan, Basket Case and Lastman. The second day, I received an SMS from CD, at 5 pm. I was in a business meeting, I couldn’t answer. He says they are there and the club was nice. I take the road at 6.30 pm. As this was a Friday evening and weekend rush hour, the roads were jammy from the Frankfurt airport and near Frankfurt downtown but when I changed the autobahn in Hanau to North, I discovered the road to Fulda was quite calm. The last part (just last 10 km) of the road was still in construction and it is supposed to be finished not any sooner than 2013 (I hope I can continue mongering until then) and it was hilly. I reached the club at 8.00ish pm.
The club was located in an industrial zone. I get in and paid the 60 Euro entrance fee with my credit card (without any extra commission. This let me to have extra cash in the pocket for the girls). I received also a bathrobe for free of charge, as I had previously at Sharks (I really don’t get why some clubs charge for some extras for those silly bathrobes. But I should admit they are sometimes useful when it is cold in the clubs, especially in winter, and it is also handy to utilise the pockets).
In the locker room, I saw Lastman. He told they though I couldn’t make it and they were readying (Basket Case and Captain Dan are just having a last session for the road) themselves to leave. I asked whether they don’t like the club. He says the club is ok but there were more or less 20 girls and they could see more girls in Oase or World, in a given Friday night. I told I can do a second club with them with no big deal, even I didn’t see yet this one. So, LM offered me a guided tour of the club while waiting the others. This Das5element was also new and classy, like Sharks. The main lounge is divided by the main bar. The first part of the bar is the open kitchen where the chefs prepare your choosen food from the menu. The second part was the bar where you get the drinks. This Friday, there were two cooks, one of them was Italian, from Sardigne. I had two slices of steak while I get in the club, then in midnight I ordered a pizza from the menu. It was interesting to watch how kind of raw materials and additives the cooks utilises and how was the process of cooking your meal. Therefore, you can be sure that it was healthy, when you see it with your own eyes.
Let us head back to the guided tour... The girls are sitting either by the bar or over the couches but they are not approaching the customers, that much. I guess the house rule is that you take the first initiative and make the first approach. The main lounge is divided by a window gate from the wellness area where you will have two small jacuzzis and a big, indoor swimming pool sized jacuzzi. In the wellness area, you have also massage rooms and also some relax zone with long chairs, cabanat and hamacs. There is also an outdoor garden (which Sharks misses) which we couldn’t get used of it because of the obvious winter conditions. But in summer season, you can easily have some sunbathing even it is not that georgious compared to Oase’s and World’s outdoor. The interesting thing about the wellness of both Sharks and Das5Element, the girls are also utilising those facilities, much before than any club else. We ended up with the fact those facilities, especially the jacuzzis are all clean and well maintain. That’s why the girls are utilising them.
The Line-up
When I reached the club, it was 8ish and I saw 23 girls. Other guys informed me this was the same girls when they arrive at 4 pm. There is only one shift obviously and some girl work for long hours, I suppose. Most of the line-up formed again with the Romanian crew, but we saw also some German, a Polish, some other EE, some black girls and an Italian (or Romano-Italian) girl. As this was Friday evening, this should be one of the best day and maybe the whole line-up should be there. So, it would be wise to expect less girls in a weekday. There were not top model looking girls, but there are enough number of good looking ones. The remaining are only doable. One thing I didn't like about this club, the girls were not totaly nude, they have some strips, bras and panties. I prefer them nude, like in Oase and World. And I should add also that the costs per session were 50 Euro/30 min. The preliminary information should be wrong that the sessions were 60 Euro. Probably, somebody who didn't visit this club yet put an info who had by phone or from another punter who is drunk or so :)
I had two girls that night. There is already two hours I entered the club, I had my steak, I had a guided tour, so I had enough waited for an opening session, but which one? Captain Dan had gone with a Romanian one but he didn’t recommended to me. I rely on his taste, he recommended Alice in Shark and I really happy with that choice. But here, as he has not any recommendation, I have to find a target, and right now.
I had an eye on a Romanian girl, later I found she is Irina. She was always sitting at the bar with her girlfriend, which she wasn’t that bad, too. I showed her to LastMan, and he also approved my choice. I didn’t decided yet, first I had to talk to her. But while preparing to an approach, LM went towards her, the girl told him that I was looking to her, first, so she should wait me. LM told me that conversation and told he believes this is a good sign. I approached her, she was speaking decent English. I invited her to the couch, before I book, I should have some more conversation and try to get to know her. When she left the bar stool, I saw the below part is not as good as the upper part of her body, she was a bit chubby, and fat to my liking (Maybe, that is why she was always sitting on the bar). But this won’t let me return her, as I was horny enough and take her directly to the room upstairs. LM told me previously that the rooms are well decorated but the room we went was simple, with a bed and the other necessery stuff. Irina was a nice girl in the room, she gave me a nice BBBJ. She was a nice header but she wasn’t full of energy like Alice of yesterday, I had to work, also. The rest of the session is so so, she doesn’t DFK either but DATY allowed, after mish and doggy, finished in spoon. Will I repeat? Though question but I think I’m gonna go for a change.
After I released the tension with Irina, I had a well long rest, while doing jacuzzi with CD and BC. I must admit that three guys in a small jacuzzi is a bit funny. A pretty Romanian girl (I don’t have her name) must think the same thing, and came to us telling this wasn’t good a jacuzzi with full of guys, she could join us, if we like. CD invited her, she told if she dive in, she should remake her make up, so she wait a compensation like going to the room. CD told her, he can dive in, he will buy her time. We left them alone, they should been in the jacuzzi and later in the room, a well two hours. It seems Captain like her companion.
After CD rejoin us, it was very late. The other guys don’t have ambition to a new session but I felt I had to do a last round, for the road. I choose the Polish girl, Xenia, that BC has tasted before and recommended her to me. She was in the jacuzzi with another girl. I went a spoke some Polish word, I invited her outside the jacuzzi. She told my Polish sucks. I know but it sometimes help, even it is ackward. She told she try to approached me before, but as I was always having conversation with my friends, she couldn’t do it. No problem, this should be the right time. She proposed to start the session right there, in the wellness area, inside a tent. At this late night, I would like to be in a more comfortable zone like a silent room, we went upstairs. She was a discovery in the room, she kisses passinately. I like her and I guess she liked me. Soon, she reached the climax and later asked me, what have I done to her? The answer was so simple, I really like Polish girls, if the chemistry is on, this is a warranted fun time in the room, mutually. Would I repeat her? Hell yes. Thank you very much guys for heading me the right girls, last two days.
Even the others were ready to leave, and even our hotels and the itinerary were in two different locations, they waited my last session. I owe a thank to them, to show a true friendship and FKK brotherhood... Thank you CD, LM and BC, for organising this get together FKK tour and also waiting me to say a last hello before getting each our hotels. We all believe it was a good idea and we should repeat such discovery tours and visit new places –at least new for us, all together with the well estabished clubs. I guess they continued the tour with oase and World, where I left them on Staurday, to do a short visit to FKK Rom, before taking my flight back home in the evening time.
my trip of new discoveries, continues just after das5 element
this is a former fake-atlantis club (not the genuine atlantis, just the copy of it) which converted into fkk rom. the owner of fkk atlantik (in hanau) own this fkk rom, too. if they were not succesfull to get used of genuine atlantis fame (which was closed because of the partners legal issues) they now try to copy oase’s concept of roman time orgies and sex symbols and sex culture. but they done that just by adding some roman decoration inside the club, that’s all. the club is located just at the exit of a small village altheim, so if you go, be careful with the traffic lights, with the speed limits of 30 km/h and also, watch out for the safety cameras, inside the village.
http://www.fkk-rom.de/
when the owner converted this one, into rom, they didn’t changed the entry price, it was always 50 euro. but considering nowadays economics and the new competition in the area (newly built sharks might be a though thread for rom, if they can attract more people, in time) they decreased the entry to 30 euro. i get used to that reduced entry fee, but actually, i had in mind to do fkk night and day, if it wasn’t a longer jurney compared to rom. the lady in the counter tried to explain me, there is an offer on each thursday and there should be some croos promotions between atlantik and rom. but as i was aiming a single visit, for instance, i didn’t get a word of it. the owners obviously rewards loyality.
the club is a multi storey building but i only had chance to see a single floor. the locker room and lockers are pretty old stuffs, so they didn’t renovated there, but they should do it at once, imho. they were still improving some parts of the entrance and doing some construction works when i visited, so maybe, next steps would be the lockers. the showers also needs to have an improvement. this building should be a blooddy old one. who knows what was it before being fake-atlantis?
the main contact area is a bit like a labryinth, and it hasied some raised floors, in some parts. you had to, always jump steps to walk, watch your step. it wasn’t an issue as i visited the club between 1 pm to 4 pm, where the club gets inside, a part of the daylight but that may cause an issue if it is not well illuminated during night time. there is a small bar and a small food area, which accomplish the job. the food was only cold cuts and some kellogs, for breakfast time. they should have hot dishes for the evening, but didn’t asked.
after i passed the contac area, there is an independant area for a small indoor jacuzi, and later, it followed by another area for small sauna. there is a handy shower, full of towel, next to the sauna. and the club tour terminate with a big sex kino. i saw some simple rooms next to the contact area, but they should have some more rooms upstairs. i also saw there is a big garden and a swimming pool. it could be nice, if the girls get used of these outdoor facilities during summer time. for me, this is the real meaning of fkk’ing...
the girls
the lady in the counter told there were 5 girls at the moment, but they will come some more later (i should go to night and day. when i phoned them, they told there were 12 girls in the morning). inside rom, i saw too many young and very beautiful romanian and bulgarian girls, they were debutées and they should start the business here, they should be no later than 18 or 19 years old. i usualy saw such debutant in fkk world, too but i try to avoid them, they lack experience. but, this club should be nice for some of you, who prefer youth to experience.
all along the young ee girls, i also saw a medium seized dominican (which she told she was in atlantik, formerly, but strangely, i never see her in hanau, last year). later, there was an african black girl joined the team. i enjoy most of my time in the jacuzzi and also in the kino. kino was large and comfortable. all the girls came here to tease me, play with me in the kino, but as i didn’t see a girl to my liking, i left the club.
result: the club is newly renovated but still needs lots of improvement, especially when you consider the newly build-up sharks, nearby. the line up is formed of young and beautiful ee sweet eigtheens, if this is your thing. i certainly will not repeat it, while i have other options, in the area.
I just saw a link to this on the Dutch "polar bear" forum:
http://www.fkk-babylon.com/
The post on the Dutch forum also said that according to newspapers, it will be the largest FKK club in the world.
Anyone who knows more?
The web page looks a bit ridiculous with an image of Colosseum in Rome, considering the club is called Babylon. Also do they know there's another FKK called Babylon - or maybe they have the same owners?
A buddy of mine, visited this new FKK in Hamburg. He says it is bigger than Atmos. He visited the club last Friday, at 11.30 pm and stayed in the club at 5 am, where there were still some punters who was enjoying their stay in the club. It was open untill morning. The web site seems ok now, and the site says the indoor is 2800 square meter big. ıt is hard to believe when you look the photos, and it should be as big as World, if this figure is true;
http://fkk-babylon.com/
When he went, there were 12 girls (consider it is was near midnight), but some left after 1 am and only 3 or 4 girls stays in the club till late. The majority of the girls were from Poland, though, there were still some from Baltic, from Germany. There were no Romanian and Bulgarian girls, this is good if you are the one who wants to avoid them.
He says there were an indoor pool, which the girls didn't use it, but my buddy use the pool. He describe the whole atmosphere as a small Artemis and very clean premises (as this is new).
He take a Polish girl named Elena (her picture is on the web, the one who isdancing on the pole and who has red shoes). She was very dynamic in the room. He describes that she has acrobatic movement like Hannah of Oase (only the ones who already sessioned with Hannah would get the meanning of this:)
Myself, I will be in Hamburg in May and later in June. Thanks to Polish girls in majority, I might consider to visit this place, even I didn't put this one on my "to do" list, beforehand... So, if I can make it, I can give you some more information, over the first hand...
Masayama,
I hope this info might help And I hope this is not that late...
The lady in the counter tried to explain me, there is an offer on each Thursday and there should be some croos promotions between Atlantik and Rom.
After this, I left the club and drove to Hanau. I suppose to meet friends in FKK Atlantik, I get used to happy hour entry for 39 Euro, between 8 pm and 9 pm. .
I don't see this special anymore on their website...or any mention of the two club offer. They do have a 5 pass VIP card for 220 euro's (44 euro's each entry), but I wouldn't do that deal unless I knew id be returning to a club.
To many clubs with to many girls and most clubs and girls complaining about a decline in the number of guests. So yes it makes sense to open another new FKK :)!
B30
I agree for a club like Das5 and Shark club...the first is so far off the beaten path you have to wonder if they'll get their money out of it. The second has no outdoor area whatsoever and opened just before summer and is also pretty far off the beaten path of frankfurt.
But Mainhatten has some potential even if their outdoor area isn't as large as oase, they still have something to offer compared to Palace which is all indoors. And it really doesn't matter what 'area' they put the club in...as long as its close to the hotels and the downtown core. We really won't know what it will do until its been open for a couple of months...
Now if Oase was the one opening this club instead of World, would you have made the comment quoted above?
Now if Oase was the one opening this club instead of World, would you have made the comment quoted above?
That would not have made any difference! This club certainly has potential because it is almost downtown Frankfurt. But then they must be able to attract new guests. Because of the location I think that must be possible.
What I see in NRW is that when a new club opens, more a shift in guests than new guests coming to a new club. When VV opened in the beginning most guests I saw there I knew from other clubs, same is true for Acapulco or PSR.
All clubs in NRW now have less guests (except maybe GT and LR) as a result of the fact the last 2-3 years many new clubs opened.
But I agree that for a new club in the Frankfurt area things are different, there should be enough potential for a new club if they use the right marketing tools.
But les wait and see what happens. Hope they will serve a Manhattan cocktail.
I remember the start-up of GT when sometimes no more than 15 girls and 10 guests were present. Things have changed since then :)!
Mainhattea in Frankfurt am Main!
B30
What I see in NRW is that when a new club opens, more a shift in guests than new guests coming to a new club. When VV opened in the beginning most guests I saw there I knew from other clubs, same is true for Acapulco or PSR.
All clubs in NRW now have less guests (except maybe GT and LR) as a result of the fact the last 2-3 years many new clubs opened.
This reminds me of a restaurant phenomenon that I frequently observe. Many times popular restaurants expand and there is insufficient clientele to keep up the same standards. Then the business falls off and the formerly popular restaurant closes.
I don't know whether this applies to FKKs, but there does seem to be a certain level of activity needed to keep things interesting. Imagine walking into Oase, Palace, or World and seeing about a dozen bored ladies sitting around, with a handful of clients entering. Hopefully the new clubs won't deplete the talent pool because of the thin client base at a particular club.
I look at the monger map and I see heavy concentrations of clubs in the NRW...then I look at the Frankfurt area and notice that the clubs are pretty much spread out. If I see that, then im betting the club owners are seeing the same thing. Downtown Frankfurt needs some competition, Palace has a lock on it right now. I remember guys talking about Palace raising their entrance to 75 euro's...would they have done so with another club so close to downtown?
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5
Yes, there have been many new clubs opening these last few years...Villa Vertigo, Das5, Sharks club...and the renaming/rebranding of so many others that its hard to keep track which clubs are now called/charging for what. Im suprised some haven't closed their doors completely. As it is, not sure what will happen with Sharks and Das5 in a year or two...not sure Das5 will keep a chef on staff to cook fresh food if the guys quit showing up.
Hessen Bub
04-16-10, 07:19
We really won't know what it will do until its been open for a couple of months...
True. It will be essential to attract a decent number of attractive girls (with good service), otherwise there will be no guests what leads to no girls - vicious circle. I would not put to much hope into a new club in Hessen.
HB
Hessen Bub
04-17-10, 11:09
Club will not open before May.
HB
Anyone been to this place in Frankfurt?
I cannot find the price on the web-site. Any information?
Anyone been to this place in Frankfurt?
I cannot find the price on the web-site. Any information?
20 Euro to enter, minimum of 5 Euro obligatory first drink.
Girls, 30 min sessison/50 Euro standart service. Some girls offer covered BJ.
There are 12 to 20 girls according the day of the week, some latins and some EE girls, a few doable. Tuesday is dessous-tag if I recall well and they are open until 4 am in weekdays. I don't know how it is on weekends. I have always been there on weekdays.
I hope it helps
My big question is: Will the new Mainhattan, so conveniently located to central Frankfurt --hey, you can even drive right by Sudfass (the Sauna Club) on your way out to Hanauner Landstrasse, a route I used to frequent driving to the A45 and onwards towards the late, great Atlantis-- eventually become a redeposition ground for the talent at World? In other words, will the owners take lots of the top acts at World to the more lucrative location just outside central FFM and in doing so pillage the World line-up so much that Pohlheim no longer offers the delights it now does?
I hope not...
O
Actually, it makes sense that (at least in the beginning) they move some of their top talent from world to the Mainhatten location. World is a well established business. The new business is not going to thrive unless they get excellent reviews (and word of mouth) and that is not going to happen without good talent. If I am on the management board I would vote for that move while my recruiter is scouting out for new talent. :-)
Actually, it makes sense that (at least in the beginning) they move some of their top talent from world to the Mainhatten location. World is a well established business. The new business is not going to thrive unless they get excellent reviews (and word of mouth) and that is not going to happen without good talent. If I am on the management board I would vote for that move while my recruiter is scouting out for new talent. :-)
The location is one of my former favorites for small clubs with nice food/buffet set up, a nice bar and lounging areas, and nice rooms upstairs. in nice weather the outside portions were wonderful. If they restore it and update a little, the facilities could be a nice respite from the Palace and could rival World for feel. All they need are a nice collection of lovelies.
Actually, it makes sense that (at least in the beginning) they move some of their top talent from world to the Mainhatten location.
You'll probably see girls from the other clubs trying out the club as well, especially from Palace if business seems slow after the new club opens. I do wonder what will happen with the end of May party at World with this new club opening, how will it effect both clubs.
I would imagine that clubs located closer to the New Manhattan will be impacted more than will FKK World, which should continue to fluorish, provided that the standard of hooker frequenting World remains good.
With all these new clubs in the process of getting up and running, the Germans must be expecting a mass migration of Romanian lovelies! :D
Hessen Bub
04-20-10, 07:18
My big question is: Will the new Mainhattan eventually become a redeposition ground for the talent at World? In other words, will the owners take lots of the top acts at World to the more lucrative location just outside central FFM and in doing so pillage the World line-up so much that Pohlheim no longer offers the delights it now does?
Don't think so. Did not happen with Sharks in Darmstadt.
HB
My big question is: Will the new Mainhattan, so conveniently located to central Frankfurt eventually become a redeposition ground for the talent at World? In other words, will the owners take lots of the top acts at World to the more lucrative location just outside central FFM and in doing so pillage the World line-up so much that Pohlheim no longer offers the delights it now does?
I hope not...
OWhen enterprise HD opened their operation in Pforzheim a few years back ("World II" back then), they gave the girls in Pohlheim some sort of incentive to ship off down to Pforzheim for a while. Within a couple of weeks they were all back. In the end the girls will work where they want to.
To my mind they are trying to muscle in on Palace's lucrative central Frankfurt niche with the tourists. Others have gone before them, and largely failed. Whether they succeed on not, we shall see, but if it leads in due course to a tightening of service standards among providers and, shall we say, heightened management sophistication at Palace (to accompany the many things about Palace that are already excellent), we shall be well served.
Don't think so. Did not happen with Sharks in Darmstadt.
HB
Good point. I have not been there, but of what I understand, Shark's is a much smaller operation than World or proposed Mainhatten. Based on the square footage they are advertising, the place (Mainhatten) would look "dead" if they only had 25 girls but the same number might make Shark's look busy.
For selfish reasons I hope the management of the new club is reading all this. I like the talent and atmosphere at World but I don't like the drive to World.
Besides, when I am in FRA, I like to spend some time in the afternoon and leave early evening to go a nice restaurant and come back. It is for the food and is a nice break. I can do that at Palace but looks like Mainhatten would be even closer to the downtown restaurants.
Hessen Bub
04-20-10, 17:20
Good point. I have not been there, but of what I understand, Shark's is a much smaller operation than World or proposed Mainhatten. Based on the square footage they are advertising, the place (Mainhatten) would look "dead" if they only had 25 girls but the same number might make Shark's look busy.
FKK-Sharks is huuuugggeeee! Look at the website and you'll get an impression.
http://fkk-sharks.de/
Galerie -> Ambiente -> Lounge
HB
It will be interesting to see what kind of Eintritt fee Mainhattan charges. Will they match Palace's 75e? or go lower? Not higher, surely!
O
Would be interesting if they took the same vip pricing system to the new club that world has in place (5 pass vip with 1 free entrance for 260e)...you might then see Palace 'lower' their rate to keep guests coming in...
Hessen Bub
04-21-10, 07:44
Would be interesting if they took the same vip pricing system to the new club that world has in place (5 pass vip with 1 free entrance for 260e)...you might then see Palace 'lower' their rate to keep guests coming in...
Entrance fee of 75 EUR at Palace is due to location, location, location. World would not have the customer oriented VIP card prices if it were closer to Frankfurt, I talked to one of the guys running the place and he confirmed that.
So I don't think Mainhattan will have the World discount system (maybe similar structure but not absolute amounts). Let's see what they will charge for entrance - rumors about Sharks were that they wanted 80 EUR - they are way below that for now.
HB
FKK-Sharks is huuuugggeeee! Look at the website and you'll get an impression.
http://fkk-sharks.de/
Galerie -> Ambiente -> Lounge
HB
Thank you. I stand corrected and more enlightened.
So I don't think Mainhattan will have the World discount system (maybe similar structure but not absolute amounts). Let's see what they will charge for entrance -
HB
Im not the expert on what they charge, how much they charge...but I feel a large part of the fee is what they feel they can get the guys to pay and keep coming back. If the facilities are great, the girls number's are plentiful and the service of both the club and the girls outstanding then guys will pay whatever the door fee is... If the fee is high and the experience not worth the door fee, the guys won't be coming back for a repeat visit in the near future. Less guys, less girls...the circle of life...aka money for pussy, pussy for money. And in the end either the club keeps everybody happy or its downward spiral time. That's why some clubs have happy hours or discount days (2 for 3)...getting guys in the club early or when its slow will keep the girls happy.
Entrance fee of 75 EUR at Palace is due to location, location, location. rumors about Sharks were that they wanted 80 EUR - they are way below that for now.
HB
Competition, competition, competition. We'll see what some competition does to the location issue. Im sure Mainhatten will offer some kind of promotion to get things started, question is will they go with the 65 euro entrance fee charged by Oase and World...or jump to the 75 fee of Palace...have to wait to find out. Sharks might draw customers who stay at hotels near the airport, not sure if they'll draw them from the downtown hotels.
P.s. what's the entrance fee to Sharks now? can't find it on their website...any happy hour deals?
P.s.s. noticed parksauna residenz up near Cologne is offering new girls free entry. gets the girls to come in and try it out for free.
Angus Magee
04-21-10, 13:22
Competition, competition, competition. We'll see what some competition does to the location issue. Im sure Mainhatten will offer some kind of promotion to get things started, question is will they go with the 65 euro entrance fee charged by Oase and World...or jump to the 75 fee of Palace...have to wait to find out.
As I remember it, when Artemis opened its' doors they offered a special price for a month or two, starting in December, of about 40 euros, as opposed to 75 at the time. All you had to do was download and bring along a copy of a flyer they had on the website or bring in a copy printed in the paper.
Hessen Bub
04-22-10, 14:25
Im sure Mainhatten will offer some kind of promotion to get things started, question is will they go with the 65 euro entrance fee charged by Oase and World...or jump to the 75 fee of Palace...have to wait to find out. Sharks might draw customers who stay at hotels near the airport, not sure if they'll draw them from the downtown hotels.
I'm pretty sure they wil have some kind of promotion for the fist weeks/months. Hope it's a better deal than the 60 EUR promotion at Sharks for the first week. ;)
P.s. what's the entrance fee to Sharks now? can't find it on their website...any happy hour deals?
It's 51 EUR if I am not wrong.
HB
I'm pretty sure they wil have some kind of promotion for the fist weeks/months..... Fisting week...interesting ;-)
Hessen Bub
04-22-10, 17:09
Fisting week...interesting ;-)
Yeah, just drop by and I'll fist you - special price, just for you.
HB ;)
Kudos. BTW, it is not only 1000 reports...most of them have some useful information in them.
Kudos. BTW, it is not only 1000 reports...most of them have some useful information in them.
Pff found no any usefull info in all the reports of this HB :)!
Hi HB,
Wenn du mal irgendwo in NRW unterwegs bist, schicke mir ein PN! 29-4 Ich werde in Gt sein, 12-5 in LR, aber ich bin auch noch immer Happy fan!
B30
Hessen Bub
04-23-10, 08:35
Wenn du mal irgendwo in NRW unterwegs bist, schicke mir ein PN! 29-4 Ich werde in Gt sein, 12-5 in LR, aber ich bin auch noch immer Happy fan!
I will. I have to revisit PHG anyway after 5 or 6 years. ;)
HB
FKK Point again (Bruchsal) I get used to cheap entry to Point on Mondays (it was 10 Euro, but unfortunately, it is discontinued and not available any more).
Am I reading Points website correctly? It looks like the entrance is now 24 euro's but when you pay this entrance, they give you a 10 euro coupon off your next visit?
Eintritt nur 24,- €
+ 10€ Gutschein
Hessen Bub
04-25-10, 21:15
Correct. You get 2 vouchers, one for Point, one for First in Sinsheim.
HB
Correct. You get 2 vouchers, one for Point, one for First in Sinsheim.
HB
I don't see mention of Fkk First on Points website, but clicking on 'events' I do see that Monday is still discounted but now at 15 euro's...and you get a 10 euro voucher.
Mondays with us
Happy Day Happy Day
HAPPY DAY.... 15€ Eintritt + 10€ Gutschein HAPPY DAY .... 15 € + 10 € entry voucher
Chuckle One
04-27-10, 19:15
While in Germany recently I stayed over a few nights near Dormagen. On a free evening I was trying to decide between a return visit to Dolce Vite or something new. I knew that SaunaClub Arena used to be in the area so I did a little Google search and found that it was now called Harem. On the way there my taxi driver informed me they have a fixed price menu of 120 Euro for 3 hours with no tipping for extras necessary. The website says 99 Euro but I am not sure if that is a Day rate or maybe the driver was taking advantage of a foreigner. This seemed pretty decent to me as I have easily dropped 400 Euro or more in that same time frame in The Palace.
When you walk in you go straight to the bar pay your fee and learn the rules. A lady is appointed to bring you down to the shower area where you get the standard robe, towel and slip on sandals. First impression. The place is a dump compared to the only other two clubs I have visited. The shower area and change room is very small and cramped. The bar area upstairs is again very small and cold. The kitchen is one in name only with a sink, hot plate and several boxes of cold pizza on the counter.
And then there are the woman. Strictly low end B circuit to see circuit women. I arrived at 11:00 pm on a Wednesday night and there were around 15 – 20 girls there and I can honestly say that as I walked through the place I instantly regretted not taking the longer drive to the other side of The Rhein. I saw one girl who I would even remotely consider spending time with and she was being monopolized by a group of 4 Turkish men. After a few drinks and turning down several unwanted solicitations, I decided to pack up and get out of dodge. If it had been a cleaner facility with more places to sit quietly and relax like at The Palace I would have stayed to see what other ladies turned up but as it was I was too disappointed with the whole experience to remain.
When I returned to the bar to sign out they did ask me why I was leaving. I guess they record how many girls you take to the rooms etc etc and they knew I had not helped myself to any of their charming ladies. I explained that I had not seen anything much to my liking and was going to cut my losses and go home. They gave me a refund of 70 Euro which was better than I expected.
In the end I guess you have to beware of these one price all inclusive clubs because from my experience I you get what you pay for.
I don't see mention of Fkk First on Points website, but clicking on 'events' I do see that Monday is still discounted but now at 15 euro's...and you get a 10 euro voucher.
Mondays with us
Happy Day Happy Day
HAPPY DAY.... 15€ Eintritt + 10€ Gutschein HAPPY DAY .... 15 € + 10 € entry voucher
I can confirm that.
Last saturday, I was FKK point for their Frühlings party with two porn stars -Maria Belucci and Dorothy Black- (I guess frühlings should stand for "spring" or something like that, in German). The Polish girl in the counter told me that on Monday, entry price is 15 Euro, plus you get those two vouchers, 5 Euro for Point and 5 Euro for FKK First (which is in Sinsheim, not so far away from Mannheim. There is also an interesting open air Technology Museum, with real aircrafts on display -I must see next time- along the route from Mannheim to Sinsheim).
Correct. You get 2 vouchers, one for Point, one for First in Sinsheim.
HB
Last time, I rang the gate for FKK First (last year in June), they told me there was only five girls inside the house, so, I decided not to walk in.
But last weekend, a German girl I sessioned in FKK Point told me she regularly work in FKK First (she visited Point just for the party day) and she added that last weekend, there was 18 girls in First. This girl told me that the owners of two clubs are friends, that is why they do that cross marketing promotions.
I actually removed this FKK First in my to do list because of the lack of talents but if they have enough girls any given time, I might reconsider to do a full visit.
Haven't been in Hessen for a while and have a chance to visit a FKK on Sat. night or Sunday. Wanted to see if maybe anyone had been to Das 5 or Sharks lately and hadn't gotten around to making a report. Also any info on the opening date for the new FRA area club? TIA!!
Sky
Hessen Bub
05-01-10, 16:39
Also any info on the opening date for the new FRA area club?
If you are referring to FKK-Mainhattan - end of May.
HB
If you are referring to FKK-Mainhattan - end of May.
HB
Surprising. World spring party and the opening of a new club in Frankfurt. Alot to take on at the same time.
Then again, opening up the new club before the spring party might take away from one or the other. Maybe they'll have a shuttle running between the two clubs ;-)
Made the 225km round trip from FRA to Das 5 yesterday and it was a mixed bag day. I really like this place, but I didn't have expectations for a Sunday, hopes yes, expectations no.
Entered about 4pm and there were no more than 10-12 girls max. A couple I have seen every time I have been here in the last 6 mths and a couple of newbies (top me).
After a "vetting" process took Lauda. She is kind of a Jackie Smith similarity (yea I know dating myself with a Charlie's Angels ref, for those of you familiar with the USA T.V series from the 70's) Nice conversation, good BBBJ skills, a killer behind if you like round ones....:-) A good in not great session, but I enjoyed her company and would repeat the session with her.
After a bit of dinner and a great hot oil massage (they are including a 20 min massage in the 65 Euro entry on Sunday's, no more 40 euro entry special), I talked to another dark haired cutie, named Mandy, don't bother. This was probably the biggest disappointment I have ever had in a FKK, all nice and cuddly before we went upstairs, but about 2 mins of lackluster BBBJ and then she grabbed the cover and tried to ride me. I tried to prolong the session but it was obvious she wasn't going to make a lot of effort. We were done in less than 12 mins. NEVER AGAIN with this one.
I was going to leave, but decided to stay, hoping that some fresh ladies would arrive for the after 10 pm "rush"...it didn't happen. There is a very tall, shapely bottle blonde that I have seen many times here, but I had never sessioned with her. Her name is Stella and what a treat, I really missed the boat with this one by not trying her before. We had a great time and she made sure that even though it was my 3rd of the day, I got my money's worth. She was a professional volleyball player in her former life, and is a fit, toned and a classy lady. We chatted for an hour before and I will make her my first choice upon my return! What a set of legs and a great behind....yummy!
I will return to Das 5, but want to see what happens a little closer in to FRA, since I cannot always rent a car.
ps, saw something I had never seen in a FKK before yesterday. I guy from Russia was drunk and obnoxious, he wouldn't leave the ladies alone and it made for a very uncomfortable environment all around. I said something to the front desk and they told me they had cut him off an hour earlier. His friends tried to get his attention, but finally the security guard "escorted" him to the locker room and off the premises. This was the first time I ever saw a "problem" in one of the clubs.
Made the 225km round trip from FRA to Das 5 yesterday and it was a mixed bag day. I really like this place, but I didn't have expectations for a Sunday, hopes yes, expectations no.
Entered about 4pm and there were no more than 10-12 girls max. A couple I have seen every time I have been here in the last 6 mths and a couple of newbies (top me).
After a "vetting" process took Lauda. She is kind of a Jackie Smith similarity (yea I know dating myself with a Charlie's Angels ref, for those of you familiar with the USA T.V series from the 70's) Nice conversation, good BBBJ skills, a killer behind if you like round ones....:-) A good in not great session, but I enjoyed her company and would repeat the session with her.
After a bit of dinner and a great hot oil massage (they are including a 20 min massage in the 65 Euro entry on Sunday's, no more 40 euro entry special), I talked to another dark haired cutie, named Mandy, don't bother. This was probably the biggest disappointment I have ever had in a FKK, all nice and cuddly before we went upstairs, but about 2 mins of lackluster BBBJ and then she grabbed the cover and tried to ride me. I tried to prolong the session but it was obvious she wasn't going to make a lot of effort. We were done in less than 12 mins. NEVER AGAIN with this one.
I was going to leave, but decided to stay, hoping that some fresh ladies would arrive for the after 10 pm "rush"...it didn't happen. There is a very tall, shapely bottle blonde that I have seen many times here, but I had never sessioned with her. Her name is Stella and what a treat, I really missed the boat with this one by not trying her before. We had a great time and she made sure that even though it was my 3rd of the day, I got my money's worth. She was a professional volleyball player in her former life, and is a fit, toned and a classy lady. We chatted for an hour before and I will make her my first choice upon my return! What a set of legs and a great behind....yummy!
I will return to Das 5, but want to see what happens a little closer in to FRA, since I cannot always rent a car.
Thanks Sky Ryder for your update on Das5element.
I really enjoyed my own visit to this club back in February 2010 and hope to get back there sometime soon.
As a point of interest, Stella would appear to be the same girl that I met back in Feb, but then she was known as Janine.
The Janine in question was a tall girl from Romania (bottle blonde) and said she played volleyball too!
So perhaps Stella/Janine are one and the same!
Im putting your report in the reports of distinction because you keep us up to date with the clubs you visit and you also keep us informed about the girls.
CD
Captain Dan's Das5element report from Feb here: 992991
Tried FKK Europa on Monday, maybe not the best day to choose as a reference, but: Rather small ok club. But definitively lacks talent compared to most other clubs I have visited. But still, as far as I understand this is still the best option if you are in Leipzig.
http://www.fkk-europa.de/
Wolf
If you are referring to FKK-Mainhattan - end of May.
HB
Any updates on the exact opening date yet?
Has anyone been to this place recently? I went up about one year ago and it looked more closed than open. There were only some construction people working in the house and it was closed. I actually looked more like a village restaraunt than a wellness sauna. I will be in the area in June and would like to try it out but it can be difficult to get to.
Has anyone been to this place recently? I went up about one year ago and it looked more closed than open. There were only some construction people working in the house and it was closed. I actually looked more like a village restaraunt than a wellness sauna. I will be in the area in June and would like to try it out but it can be difficult to get to.No, can't help, sorry. But if you can read French, try the Youppie forum. The French are great fans of the club, not least on account of the excellent food.
Has anyone been to this place recently? I went up about one year ago and it looked more closed than open. There were only some construction people working in the house and it was closed. I actually looked more like a village restaraunt than a wellness sauna. I will be in the area in June and would like to try it out but it can be difficult to get to.My research indicates that Parksauna Residenz is strong on ambiance/decor and facilites but would not have a very strong hooker selection.
It is possible that the line-up, although not plentiful, could be good enough. The club seems to be comparable to Das5element in Fulda.
I have heard (unconfirmed stories) that the club is controlled by some "Eastern European Investors".
Whether the above fact is true or not, it is my understanding that Parksauna Residenz has recently attracted some tasty new totty!
I hope to visit sometime in the near future and would also be interested to hear from anyone who has been to Parksauna Residenz in the last 4 or 5 months.
CD
Has anyone been to this place recently? I went up about one year ago and it looked more closed than open. There were only some construction people working in the house and it was closed. I actually looked more like a village restaraunt than a wellness sauna. I will be in the area in June and would like to try it out but it can be difficult to get to.
I visited PSR recently, and had a great time. The facilities are marvelous, but the lineup is, unsurprisingly, second league.
I have a bunch of outstanding reports to write up, and PSR will be one of them.
Have Fun,
PL
I visited PSR recently, and had a great time. The facilities are marvelous, but the lineup is, unsurprisingly, second league.
I have a bunch of outstanding reports to write up, and PSR will be one of them.
Have Fun,
PL
Thanks for the comment. We all look forward to your report. Did the offer of free entry to new girls attract new talent?
Hessen Bub
05-14-10, 11:05
From colleagues I heard that PSR line-up is still second league. What a pitty, facilities and food are gread.
Regarding Mainhattan: No news.
HB
http://www.midland-wellness.de/wellness-home.html
Another new Club. Midland between Aachen and Cologne. Looks very impressive. It will open May 21.
Big30
http://www.midland-wellness.de/wellness-home.html
Another new Club. Midland between Aachen and Cologne. Looks very impressive. It will open May 21.
Big30
Thanks for the "scoop" on this new club. Its location is not too, too far for our NL friends to visit, right?
Btw: Where the hell are they getting the talent to fill all these new clubs?
O
Thanks for the "scoop" on this new club. Its location is not too, too far for our NL friends to visit, right?
Btw: Where the hell are they getting the talent to fill all these new clubs?
O
Yes is is not far from the border with Holland. But it is only closer for those people that live in the "Deep South" of Holland. For me it would mean travelling an additional 60 km. For most people in Holland Gt/VV/LR/PHG will remain closer.
But is certainly closer for those who live in Belgium and France and also not far from the Big Cities in NRW.
I spoke with someone who has been there and he was very impressed. When girls can make money somewhere and they start with free entrance for the girls as I understood they will, talent will not be much of a problem.
I read diner is a la carte just like PSR. Heard yesterday in PHG that liqour also would be free in Midland but do not think that will happen.
You know how many girls were in GT the first months after they opened? 5-15 and that changed very rapidly.
Due to the location and the facilities all I can say that this club has potential.
So far no plans for a visit but that can change! If I have more info from Icebears that visited this club I will report.
B30
Massimoweb
05-18-10, 16:31
on may 12, late afternoon (around 6 pm) i visited fkk relax in perlach.
the place is located far from munich city centre, but can be easily reached if you go by s-bahn. i took the s-bahn up to neuperlach station, then i looked for a taxi. i had to wait a little bit to find a taxi in that area, but, at the end, i got it (had to wait more or less 15 minutes). from neuperlach to the club i spent 8 euro taxi and less than 10 minutes.
club description:
the club is very small, with no kino (just a lcd tv in the main room), plus the shower area and the lockers room, plus the rooms for the "business" upstairs.
at the entrance, i was received by an old woman who did not speak english, so she had to call one of the working ladies to give me the ritual explanations.
i paid 60 euros for the entrance and i received the lockers keys and the towel.
all the girls were sitting in the main room, small, with music and a tv showing a porno movie. at 6 pm there were 10 girls, all naked, and other two customers. the place seemed to be dead.
regarding the girls, i would rate two of them as nice, other three or four acceptable, the others with a terrible look.
at the bar (they do not serve alchool) i was approached by a girl from romania, very kind and willing to please.
on the sofa, one of the girls was sleeping, the others were bored and talked each other.
so, after a couple of cokes, i went upstair with the romanian girl. the rooms upstair are clean, with king size beds, but without showers.
the romanian girl, in her early 30's, with natural see cup breasts, dark long hairs, slim (but with a scar and some stretchmarks on her stomach) was really willing to please. we agreed for the std service (75 euros) for covered bj, sex and massage, 30 minutes. bareback bj was proposed as option, subject to an extra charge, but i was not interested.
the deed proceeded smoothly, and after 30 minutes i was back to main room. i would rate this girl as good.
i was approached on the sofa by an hungarian girl, very tall, with long long legs, but with a terrible breast, and i declined.
after 15 minutes i approached a german girl (from frankfurt), young (25 years), with a killer natural see cup breast, dark hairs, beautiful round ass, dark long hairs. she was the only one very beatiful and young. we agreed to go to the room. what a big mistake! immediately tried to speed up the things, with a mechanical blowjob, without passion. after a minute sucking, she told me it was time to make sex. i fucked her in mish position, but i had the impression to fuck a plastic doll. a lot of a fake groans, then, after five minutes (!) she told me it was time to come. i was very disappointed, so i finished in her pussy and went back to the main room after only 20 minutes. this girl (if i remember correctly, her name should be deina or something like that) told me that she worked in a lot of fkk (including yin yang). the worst experience in my life of monger.
i then sat other 20 minutes in the main room, but i was so bored that i decided to go back to the hotel.
that's my experience.
Hi creature 2,
As I sit here drunk on a Saturday night (Sunday morning) at 3 AM in US sex prison, I have both envy and gratitude for your pioneering spirit in exploring the profusion of new venues springing up in Germany, springing up perhaps to accomodate the ever-burgeoning masses of economically disadvantaged females thrust by the EU economic woes into the lucrative but demanding profession of servicing, and thereby assuageing, the libidos of international horndogs.
You da man. Keep up the good work.
beffen- on the outside lookin' in, fates be damned
Hi Beffen,
I am so sorry, that I didn't see your post earlier and sorry to reply so late. I could only manage to finf the necessary time to read older posts.
Thanks for your good comments, too.
Maybe the best part of being in US sex prison, should be the way back to Europe. During the whole overseas flight (if not affected by the ash clouds), you might think all those beauties waiting you in FKKLand.
Cheers
C2
So end of May is out of the question. I don't even think they can make it for end of June.
Jim
Am 01.07.2010 eröffnen wir mit einer grandiosen Eröffnungsparty. Verlosung: 1 Wochenende Paris für 2 Personen inkl. Besuch des Moulin Rouge!
http://twitter.com/fkkmainhattan
B30
Am 01.07.2010 eröffnen wir mit einer grandiosen Eröffnungsparty. Verlosung: 1 Wochenende Paris für 2 Personen inkl. Besuch des Moulin Rouge!
http://twitter.com/fkkmainhattan
B30
thank you for the info. For non German speakers:
" we have grand opening party on July 1st, 2010. We have lottery for a weekend trip to Paris for 2 people including the Moulin Rouge"
Basketcase
05-24-10, 07:59
thank you for the info. For non German speakers:
" we have grand opening party on July 1st, 2010. We have lottery for a weekend trip to Paris for 2 people including the Moulin Rouge"
Thank you Vitrea for the translation.
The winner of the lottery may have some explaining to do to colleagues or family or friends if they win and are taking someone they know with them. They may ask, "so how did you win these tickets?"
You reply, "oh, I just won them at the grand opening of a new brothel in downtown frankfurt. Nice club."
As a point of interest, Stella would appear to be the same girl that I met back in Feb, but then she was known as Janine.
The Janine in question was a tall girl from Romania (bottle blonde) and said she played volleyball too!
So perhaps Stella/Janine are one and the same!
Hi Captain,
I guess Stella was the tallest girl in the club, which claimed she was Italian but LM and I, we guessed she was Roumanian (because apart the Italian she speak, she barely speaks a strange language with the other Romanian chicks. That was the tall girl that LM sessioned and recommended her to me. I guess I may try her next time, if I can see her. She has also a picture in the web of Das5 with name of Stella.
Cheers,C2
Hi Creature2
It seems that they are not the same girl, because to my best recollection Lastman and I did not take the same lady (on seperate occasions) the evening in question. It appears to be just coincidence that Stella and Janine are both tall, blonde, Romanian and also like volleyball!
CD
Hi Captain,
I guess Stella was the tallest girl in the club, which claimed she was Italian but LM and I, we guessed she was Roumanian (because apart the Italian she speak, she barely speaks a strange language with the other Romanian chicks. That was the tall girl that LM sessioned and recommended her to me. I guess I may try her next time, if I can see her. She has also a picture in the web of Das5 with name of Stella.
Cheers,C2
Anyone know anything about Fun Garden club In Emmerich?
http://www.fun-garden.de
Anyone know anything about Fun Garden club In Emmerich?
http://www.fun-garden.de
I went there about 18 months ago (There's a report somewhere here). It was a Sunday afternoon so the line up was quite small - though it did get busier later. Had two sessions there with a Eastern European (poor) and Brazilian (Emma - no longer there - excellent). The facilities were OK - and clean. It wasn't outstanding but is close to home (1 hours drive) so I would consider going again. If you go to Hookers.nl you can download a discount card.
good luck
Further to: 1025676
The day started well: my favourite waitress at my favourite deli actually remembered me from last year's visit. I was impressed.
For it's part. Heidelburg is a college town with a palace and a historic roman bridge. It was a great tour, though it did rain most of the day. We returned to Frankfurt just after 3 PM. I was back at my hotel & ready to go by 4 PM. I judged this too late for Oase for me & felt that it would be too crowded due to rain, (as well it was the last day of Messe). Palace was out - it was Dessous Tag & end of Messe. So I decided to check out FKK Sudfass Sauna - Wellness - Club. It is on north shore by the green arch bridge, ( Flosserbrucke, I think) and there is an excellent eros centre right next door. I toured the centre after I visited Sudfass & wish I had gone there first, though I am not a big fan of these types of place. But I saw pretty young blondes /brunettes of good looks, similar to those at Rotes Haus in the Hbf area RLD.
Went into Sudfass around 4:45. Entrance was 25 € & beverages varied in price, with soft drinks being 4 €. I was the only client with about 10 Romanians (& 1 Czech) ladies present. Most were in the class of 5 - 7. Two were rather young looking but they disappeared after a while. Over the couse of my stay 2 ladies tried to woo me. Again I felt like a puppy dog: they rubbed my back, chest, tummy & head. I neither encouraged them, nor did I discourage them. The ladies were dressed in lingere: Dessous-Tag is Tuesday & Thursday at Sudfass!
Finally, around 7 PM I paired up with one of the young looking Romanians, Christina, 20, just as another guest showed up. Normally I do not see anyone under 25, (should have stuck to my rules). The 3 ladies I spoke with all agreed to the usual menu for Hesse clubs. Two agreed to bbbj, but that was extra with Christina. All agreed cim, cob & anal were extra.
Christina was at best LFK & not overly responsive. I very quickly lost interest. In fairness, Christina was supportive & seemed disappointed though we did get a shot off.
Total Damages: Entrance of 25 € + (3 drinks @ 4 € ) 12 € + 50 € for Christina = 87 €.
Left & then toured the Eros Centre next door. Following that, being hungry and just across the river from the Sachsenhusen district, I went on to Adolf Wagner on Schweizer Str. for great ribs, sauerkraut & a couple of glasses of Apelwine. Great meal to end the day. Damages: 13 €.
a buddy of mine, which is more experimented in german scene, told me that this red carpet chain broke already years ago, so it would be non-sense to post these report in red carpet section. maybe this red carpet should also be locked in order not to mistake new fellow members (such as already done for atlantis thread). that is why i copied this report to other fkk thread. i will post the remaining day 2 report of fkk salome, also here, in other fkk thread. sorry in advance if any inconveniance occured.
fkk bel ami
day 1
this is my second visit to fkk belami. here it is my first time visit report back in december, last year.
http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=3022
as the girls are wearing bikinis in belami, it is rather a sauna club, actually. but some still call it fkk. it was different in sauna grimsberg in gelsenkirchen (it is once upon a time sister club) where all the girls were totaly nude (this should be actually an fkk). this is rather complicated.
even it is a sauna club or a fkk club, i really appreciated bel ami on my last visit. and it was on my radar when in the area. the chance to revisit there arised last weekend, when i was in the area to attend a messe.
http://www.belami-fkk.de/1.htm
i reached the club at 8ish. it was the friday and the parking lot was full. i buzzed and walked in. the thekefrau was different this time and she can speak fluent english. as the pricing structure change so quickly in these former red carpet clubs, i was suspicious about the price (once, i visited sauna grimsberg two consecutive days and the structure was different on both visit. and the real price is sometimes slightly different than announced in the web. no cheating but their web is not that accurate, so it is better to phone before showing up). the price choices this time was like that. this shows the price for the number of session (of 20 minutes each)
1x45 euro
2x70 euro
3x85 euro
4x95 euro
the thekefrau asked me my choice. i reply 4, she gave me a wristband, my key, two towels and my card for four sessions. this friday, there were 23 girls in bel ami.
in weekends, they serve food. so, before deciding, i get the food. there is a nice choice of giro and salad. the food is ok and this time, as the weather was nice in nrw, i had my food in openair. last time, i didn’t had the opportunity to discover the outdoor garden. now, i see that they have enough space but the garden needs some care. they have also a whirpool there, where two of the girls taking bath. when i was having my dinner outside, i saw that a group of girls eating, smoking and chating. this let me to survey and have a preliminary choice.
anastacia
this weekend, there were enough charming girls to fulfill my desire and to fulfill my wristcard, i though. i spotted a nice girl with blue eyes. at first sight, from a distance look, i though she may be joana i sessioned 7 months ago in villa venus-dusiburg, but when i looked her from close distance, i realised this is a much younger girl, according to web info, she is 23. i guessed she was german, but wrong guess. she told she was russian, this better works for me. she told that her name is anastassia, her pictures in the web, she has deep blue eyes and perfect skin. i asked her if the dfk is allowed, she confirmed that this is an extra of 5 euro. a real cheap extra, so gattonero should be right, but i couldn’t see any board announcing the tarif fort he extras, on the other hand.
i take anastassia as my first choice. in the room, i asked if i can buy the extra of dfk but she told she doesn’t do that and added; “you should ask other girls”. her english was broken but still ok. she has a nice skin, perfect, tiny and tight body. she rushed me a bit so i released my load in 12 minutes. her skills wasn’t that good as she was a teen, but more experimented girls has not the same tight body? or do they have?
after my first session, we went to theke and i paid 95 euro for all my four sessions, already, in advance. so, please be carefull and please read the deep note ps3. and everytime after your session, you come to theke and they write the name of the girl and if any extra taken or not.
gaby
second choice was gaby. she is a nice girl from poland. i surveyed her being always with guys in the couches. she had some admirer. i waited the right time when she was not busy and complimented her in polish language. she is also beautiful, on my scale. she is more beautiful than its pictures in the web. i take her immediately to the room. wow, in the room, what a super performance. a real sucker, nice and long bbbj skill. later, i turned it into mish, then doggy and spoon, because of her super performance and my suck was stil fully loaded, because of the horniest, i exploded into her after 15 min.
after this great performance, i knew i wouldn’t find the same service level from another girl in bel ami, so i considered to repeat here. but i was also in dilemma, because there were so many attractive girls in bel ami, and i had only two more place on my card. should i repeat the best service provider or should i screw some more beautiful pussies, even i know the next sessions would be crap. here is the conversation of this dilemma (credit to plover23 for the inspiration of brain-dick conversation)
brain says;” you should repeat gaby. it is hard to find this service level in a red carpet.
dick replies: “no, i should screw that lady in red, she is a stunner”
brain says: “she is a bulgarian. probably, it will be the worst session of the day”
dick replies: “i need to have her, otherwise i won’t obey your order any more, i won’t get it up and sleep all day long
brain complies.
bahar
she is the tall and slim lady in the red. she has a nice figure and a nice face. but when i speak to her, i get at once she is a shark (a shark in a red carpet? this is only 20 euro/session). she offered a trio with her bulgarian girlfriend which i didn’t accept. my crazy dick wanted her alone. if i don’t do with her, probably, it may punish me! before going to the room with her, i asked permission to go to the toilet to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), then i cleaned myself in the shower. when we gone to the room, she told my dick is not cleaned enough (this wasn’t true at all) and she will do cbj. i told i cleaned it in the shower but she put the condom for bj. then she says my dick was to thick form e and she forget her gelly at home. no problem for me, i told and i slided mine into hers, carefully. she told she has pain, i wish i could stop, my dick didn’t want to stop now. i convinced her to do some several positions and released my load after 20 min. even this should be a success to stay 20 min with a bulgarian girl in the room. my brain wasn’t satisfied at all but my dick was obviously satisfied. i can see the production.
melina
ok, this was my last chance (actually, it wasn’t the last chance. when your card finishes, you may still stay in the club and pay the girls directly 20 euro, after each sessions). should i repeat gaby? but dick has another option. there was another, very beautiful, bulgarian young girl, with the loveliest hip i have ever see in this club. she told me her name was melisa, but in the web, i found a picture of an italian girl named melina. i checked her picture and her buttock. she should be the same bulgarian girl. when she was walking in front of me the whole night, i was always thinking this should be the best butt in the world and if a man only have these to touch or sleep with, what else can dream.
i decided to speak with her and scan her. she told she was also bulgarian. this should be a “no go” under normal condition. this is a red flag for a bad service.
brain told; “no go, she isn't good. go and fuck gabi”
dick told; “gabi is not available right now”
brain told; “she will be available soon”
dick told; “melina would not stay alone. somebody else will take her, if you don’t do it”
brain told; “you will be disappointed after you go out the room”
dick told; “only jlo has the same butt, i should pump her, and beside, you can choose gabi as your fifth session, any time”
dick won the battle, i take melina to the room. service was crap, of course, but she has a lovely, white, pale body. in the room, dick pumped that white butt for about 20 min, until it is dead because of dehydration, it gave the last drops to melina. dick was happy before dying, brain wasn’t satisfied again.
brain was searching gabi, for a repeat session, but she was always busy. it was now 4 am and i was drained out, i called it a night. when changed and went out, it was dusk, early little birds singing their love songs in german. i take my german rental car, and hardly drove to my hotel on 15 km away (mainly because of the fatigue). when i get my hotel room, i slept with ease, because both my dick and my brain was tired but they were happy. i had a lovely whole night for just 95 euro. i like travelling across germany.
next day, day 2, will be followed by another former red carpet club fkk salome where i met some russian and some polish chicks. so, the addicted to polish and russians, stay tuned till next episode.
ps1: credit of brain and dick conversation to plover23. thanks again pal, to give this inspiration to write such a colorfull report.
ps2: i believe the majority of the customers were turkish but there were also some german customers in the club. the music, the speaking language by the clientele and by some girls is also turkish. i made some conversations with some of the turkish customers, they are mostly easygoing, funny guys. they says that bel ami was much better, before. and if there is a stunner and a high performer girl, the owner pick her to invest in another of his clubs. the former vitalis chain disappeared but there still should be some sort of chain, at least in nrw. i am disappointed, i couldn’t see those days with deutsche mark. maybe,those were the days… but i am still happy with those former red carpets, what it is today, as good as it gets…
ps3: those local regular turkish guys are very clever! i saw many of them entering the club by asking only one shot but later, they keep staying in the club for long hours and they check the line-up. if they click with some girls, or if they see new girls arrived, after their first session, they pay it directly to the girl. check the price list once more! the club always want to have its cut, even they says the entrance is free, they want to receive 25 euro as an entrance money, the rest is for the girls. if you want to do shoot two rounds, paying directly is more economical, and shooting once or three make no difference, either paying the whole amount to the club or to the girls directly, just bring with you some 20 euro notes, that’s all. only if you know that you will spend four rounds (which is the most cheapest per sessions) at any cost, just then you should commit for four rounds. otherwise, if you commit while entering four rounds and you don’t like the line-up, you may ruin your day.
A buddy of mine, which is more experimented in German scene, told me that this Red Carpet chain broke already years ago, so it would be non-sense to post these report in Red Carpet section. Maybe this Red Carpet should also be locked in order not to mistake new fellow members (such as already done for Atlantis thread).
There never was a formally chain of Red Carpet Clubs! But it is true in the past a lot of clubs in NRW and fkk40 were owned by one man and all those clubs had the same couches and yes had a red carpet! His name was "Der Blinde". He is still in Prison actually but still in controll of most of his clubs.
Belami, Arabella, Grimberg, Villa Romantika, Villa Venus. In the past also Mausis and Penelope and also he had some shares in Freude.
But that is all history! If you visit those clubs (I did, eek!) they all have the typical RTC apearence. Maybe only Freude after their new decoration excluded.
Penelope is now independent and is owned by Turkish owners that also own Acapulco. Freude is also "independent" now.
Belami, Arabella, Grimberg, Villa Romantika, Villa Venus were part of FKK-Vitalis but that also seems to be history!
Big30
There never was a formally chain of Red Carpet Clubs! But it is true in the past a lot of clubs in NRW and fkk40 were owned by one man and all those clubs had the same couches and yes had a red carpet! His name was "Der Blinde". He is still in Prison actually but still in controll of most of his clubs.
Belami, Arabella, Grimberg, Villa Romantika, Villa Venus. In the past also Mausis and Penelope and also he had some shares in Freude.
But that is all history! If you visit those clubs (I did, eek!) they all have the typical RTC apearence. Maybe only Freude after their new decoration excluded.
Penelope is now independent and is owned by Turkish owners that also own Acapulco. Freude is also "independent" now.
Belami, Arabella, Grimberg, Villa Romantika, Villa Venus were part of FKK-Vitalis but that also seems to be history!
Big30
Thanks for that clearification.
I like nostalgia, I do like such history, as well.
Maybe that is why, I like to reasearch wht it is used to be, in the past the German scene of NRW brothels.
By the way, last year, I wanted to find out Villa Romantika but couldn't find the place, by GPS. Last week, I called them but the phone number belongs to another place, now, still their info line works. Is this Villa is also history, now.
Maybe, I will visit Villa Erotika, in Iserlohn, next time I will be in the area.
Thanks,
C2
By the way, last year, I wanted to find out Villa Romantika but couldn't find the place, by GPS. Last week, I called them but the phone number belongs to another place, now, still their info line works. Is this Villa is also history, now.
Maybe, I will visit Villa Erotika, in Iserlohn, next time I will be in the area.
Thanks,
C2
Villa Romantika in Recklinghausen you mean:
http://www.fkk-romantika.de/home.html
or in Solingen?
http://sg-villa-romantika.de/
The one in Recklinghausen was part of the FFK-Vitalis chain that also included Villa Venus, Belami, Grimberg and Arabella. But now it seems all these clubs go there own way. In the past they had one webpage now not anymore.
B30
By the way, last year, I wanted to find out Villa Romantika but couldn't find the place, by GPS. If you mean the club in Recklinghausen, try: lat=51.59412, lon=7.22300 (see map (http://osm.org/go/0GMcClBUu-?way=30731944&layers=0B00FTFT))
Villa Romantika in Recklinghausen you mean:
http://www.fkk-romantika.de/home.html
or in Solingen?
http://sg-villa-romantika.de/
The one in Recklinghausen was part of the FFK-Vitalis chain that also included Villa Venus, Belami, Grimberg and Arabella. But now it seems all these clubs go there own way. In the past they had one webpage now not anymore.
B30
Thanks B30,
I meant the one in Recklinghausen. ( I am not aware, whether there is another Villa Romantika in Solingen). I had the GPS location and adress of Romantika in Recklinghausen. Last year, I intended to visit when I reached the adress, there were no clue or no sign for a Sauna club, on this street.
Last week, I called them, but it seems the number belong to someone else, now.
I will try to reset my navigation and will try to revisit the place, this week. I hope it is still in opeartion and may find the club. I f it happens, I will report, soon.
If you mean the club in Recklinghausen, try: lat=51.59412, lon=7.22300 (see map (http://osm.org/go/0GMcClBUu-?way=30731944&layers=0B00FTFT))
Thanks Varenne,
I will try again with that new long/latt information.
I meant the one in Recklinghausen
Went up on the Wednesday morning to check out the place. They indeed open at 11:00. This is an interesting place. It has a large restaraunt more common to a family dining establishment. There were about 10 girls there at the beginning all getting ready. Everyone shares on locker room so the girls were all primping in the mirrors.
This is NOT a FKK. The girls were almost all in bikini's. A couple were topless. There is a lot of room here and there are possibilities but it has a long ways to go to get to the level of other FKK's.
The girls spread out one to a couch and it was more reminicient of a farmers market each selling something. I wandered around for a while and did one session and left.
The shower is upstairs in a big common shower area near the sauna. It was interesting. By the time I left at 13:00 there were about 15-20 girls and maybe the same number of men.
This place is OK if you want a place to crash for the day and read the newspaper or a book. It did not have the quality of World. The service level of Bernds is hard to beat.
Hessen Bub
06-19-10, 10:45
Like most clubs in NRW PSR also is a Sauna Club, not a FKK Club.
PSR was a family sauna before. And I heard before that it was an African embassy.
HB
I haven't seen any recent reports for Bremen. I am not expecting much, but I have searched and found just one FKK club in Bremen: 5A FKK Bremen.
Does anyone know it?
Any other suggestions for Bremen?
EK
Basketcase
06-21-10, 23:39
Went up on the Wednesday morning to check out the place. They indeed open at 11:00. This is an interesting place. It has a large restaraunt more common to a family dining establishment. There were about 10 girls there at the beginning all getting ready. Everyone shares on locker room so the girls were all primping in the mirrors.
This is NOT a FKK. The girls were almost all in bikini's. A couple were topless. There is a lot of room here and there are possibilities but it has a long ways to go to get to the level of other FKK's.
The girls spread out one to a couch and it was more reminicient of a farmers market each selling something. I wandered around for a while and did one session and left.
The shower is upstairs in a big common shower area near the sauna. It was interesting. By the time I left at 13:00 there were about 15-20 girls and maybe the same number of men.
This place is OK if you want a place to crash for the day and read the newspaper or a book. It did not have the quality of World. The service level of Bernds is hard to beat.
Fly Bob,
I did visit Park Sauna Residenz ("PSR") on my tour of Nord Rhein Westfalen. I agree with your sentiments.
I would add that this club has great facilities and like Das 5 Element is a great place to come to recharge after a hard day at Palace or World or Golden Time. As one Ice Bear said it is a club that you come to if you do not want to fuck. The Ice Bear then did say if you can find one or two good girls that rock your boat then PSR becomes the best club in the world.
I did two sessions:
1. Sabrina (ro) a cute little blond for a fiddy. Sabrina was average build, a lot of fun and a good worker willing to do what had to be done to earn her euro. We did suck and fuck in the porno kino and not in the larger sports kino showing the World Cup football. We did kiss, she blew me, then we put a condom on and we did fuck first in cowgirl, missionary and then in doggie before I pulled out and we did some more kissing, fondling and DATY. More blasen and then another condom for more sex. Playful little thing and was tolerant of being fondled.
2. 1.5 hours in a room with a local girl with CIM finish for 200 euro. She had perfect natural B cups and a lovely ass on slim long legs, long blond hair, brown green eyes and a beautiful all over tan. She did spend a lot of social time outside of the room. with me. An all holes girl. Phenomenal kissing, licking everywhere including my nipples, her ass hole was open play. I think I got 5 bouts of blasen including some nice deep throat mouth fucking in one bout when I knelt over her mouth and I did fuck her mouth, ball licking, then two sessions of fucking, lots of body to body frottage. Then blowjob finish where a large dollop of come was deposited in her mouth which she held in her mouth savouring it. 100% repetition. I got her work program so I can find her again.
The Ice Bears known as "the Painter" or Picasso1 and Knabbel did give some good tips on how to get to Park Sauna Residenz and what to look out for.
I did meet other Ice Bears in the club who did not know I was going to be there. Hi guys.
I did not meet any German fuckers.
Thing to watch out for is the pricing is 50+50+50+50 as standard with CIM at 25 extra and anal sex at 50 extra. COB was not listed on the many price lists in the locker room from what I can work out.
Food was lovely with options like:
1. Minute steak with pilze and potato croquettes
2. omelette with spinach and cheese
3. rump steak with pommes and vegetables (gemuse)
4. pork fillet with pommes and vegetables
5. Tilapia fish filet with mouth watering crisp potato rosti and salad
6. grilled chicken breast and salad
There was cereals salads, speciality breads, desserts out all day.
The menu also had 4 types of a la carte desserts from cakes to banana splts.
For hot snacks you could order sausages in bread or tomato vegetable soup with noodles.
Please note on my visit that reception does not speak English so German was spoken to explain the set up until a thekefrau that could speak English came to guide us.
Day 2
Russian Standart in Salome
You may find Day 1; my first day adventure in Bel Ami; here and also a few post below...
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1030906&postcount=2377
This is also another former Red Carpet club, “once upon a time” brothel chain. This is located in Herne, a few miles north of Bochum centrum. Rumors says a Russian guy bought this club two years ago, from the Red Carpet boss and he invested much. He improved the interior decoration, he also extended the land. I wanted to visit this place since last summer, but always, I had other places to check, nearby. It is also only 1 km away from the cheapest Accor hotel Formule 1, where I mostly stays when in Bochum.
The club is opened till 3 am in weekdays and 6 am in weekends. The entrance is 30 Euro on week days, 35 Euro on weekends. The weekdays evening, after 6 pm, the entrance is again increased to 35 Euro. They serve food only in weekends, if I am not wrong. Actually, 35 Euro is not that cheap, you get only a few in rewards of your cash. You can go Freude for your 40 bucks and you have nice food, and more women, there.
http://www.fkksalome.de
When I arrive FKK Salome, it was 8ish. I was very surprised when I saw the car park and the nearby street. They were all covered with parked car, there are even too many cars from Netherland. The staff was bringing case of beers from a lorry to the inside of the club, so the main door was fully open, I sneaked in without buzzing. But in the counter, I had to wait, the thekefrau was absent. While waiting, I had the opportunity to chat with two Polish girls, they were smoking in the corner, they were lovely and talkative. I also checked inside, it seems live and fun, inside. Later, thekefrau arrived and I paid my 35 Euro entrance, received my key and went to the locker to change.
The interior decoration is relatively newer and with more taste, compared to other former Red Carpets. The owner wants to give a far eastern touch, inside the club. In every corner, you can see a Tantric item, it should have some similarities with FKK Tantra in Kaiserslautern. After the locker room, I saw a big alley with two separated showers and three non separated showers. The clientele is utilising just the separated one, so the other three stays unused for most of the times. After showers, you have the massage and wellness area. There is a Turkish bath (hammam) and also a very nice, tantric decorated steam bath. The sauna is very new, a large one, and reminds me one of the latest version I saw in FKK Sharks. There is also a small indoor pool (or whirpool) but it was empty, maybe it was also brand new, maybe that was in the process of building. Near the welness area, there were four more showers. And beside the wellness, there is a relax zone and a contact area with some couches. There is a big bar (out of service) and two flat screens here, showing MTV. Down the alley, there are some more couches and some rooms to play. And, here we go, we reach the main lounge. Actually, I made the tour counter-clockwise, but you can jump directly to the main lounge after you have changed. The club is based on a rectengular plan and there is an open air courtyard inside that rectengular, which is not utilised or decorated yet. But, on the other hand, the owner had an effort to open a summer garden, on the other side of the building, till next week. (I might be able to see the summer garden, in my next visit, who knows when it will be, maybe until end of June). A big crew of construction workers was doing the job, on that Saturday evening, till sunset.
The main lounge has a small bar, a small kitchen which they serve food, coffe and tea. There is a self service fridge (GT type, but no beer served here) inside this kitchen and there is also a second fridge close to the wellness area. There are also three tables to eat in a corner of the main lounge. The main lounge has dimmed light, not so easy to distinct the details of the girls, it is dark. There are lots of leather couches here (the new owner should have removed that famous old carpets and dirty textile couches).
I had two different surprise when checked-in this club; first, when I see the parking lots, I realised this is a popular place (my first visit was in noon time, they have just open the doors, I had spoke with the owner, he said there was 5 girls, then, now, this weekend, in the evening time, there is more than 35 girls, inside). My second surprise was to see how big was inside the club. From outside view, it is hard to guess this is that big.
When I regularly checked the web site, before visiting, I though the club might be closed or the management has been changed, because web site doesn’t work properly and gives not an important information except adress, phone number and working hours, that is all. But when I checked-in the club, I saw that this is a serious business, down there. It is even hard to call it a former Red Carpet club, because the owner has changed the whole persona and Red Carpet atmosphere, in it.
The Line Up
First of all, before describing the line-up, I should underline that, this club also has a set-up (like Bel Ami, previously visited) for mainly Turkish clientele. The boards are marked in German and Turkish, the music is Turkish, some of the staff are Turkish, and %95 of the customers I saw that day, were Turkish group of guys. So there is some Bulgarian and Romanian girls who speak barely Turkish and even some of the Polish girls learnt some words to connect the customer. I met a Romanian girl named Gabi, which I first met last year in March in PC Heidelberg, then PC Wuppertal, later at Pauschal Bochum. Now, she returned to her FKK carrier which she started in Spanish clubs, in Alicante (Las Palmeras and Pipos clubs). When I set next to her to chat, after a while, she proposed to go to a room. No, no, not to a room with a former flat-rate girl. I have made that mistake, once, in Atlantik Hanau, and I learnt my lesson, I won’t repeat that mistake, anymore, here. They tend to have their habit of serving partytreff standart of service even in an FKK.
Even there is Bulgarian and Romanian girls, there is enough amount of nice Polish girls, too. I saw some nice German girls, too. But my favore was the Russians, this time. I find a few of them, in Salome
Mercedes
She was sitting on a corner in the wellness area. She wasn’t that imposing compared to the other girls. She had a Baltic look, I greeted her in Polish saying “Cezch”, she replied me “Hi”. At first sight, I didn’t get it, I passed throug the alley but then, I returned to her and asked whether she knew English. She says she speaks a bit English. Her name was Mercedes, she’s from Kazakhistan, a former Soviet Union; for my book, she is Russian, so, she is a “Good to Go”, for me. She works on a normal office during the week, in Cologne, and for the weekend, she does this job for her hobby. I asked her previous clubs, she replied “Just Oase in Frankfurt”. She can’t cut at World or Palace, because the managements wanted her to work at least four days a week, obviously she can’t do that and working at the office simultaneously. So, she came to this small club. This should be first gem of the day, that I had discovered, in that tiny club. I thank her for this conversation and told I should get around the wellness and would see her later. She replied she will be there.
After a while, I returned this place, she was always sitting on the same bar stool, she even didn’t move for somewhere else. She seems bored. I asked I want to do a test drive with her Mercedes engine, she didn’t get the joke, I had to repeat, ouch. Then we head to a room. She said she doesn’t like the rooms on downstairs, they were noisy, she would prefer the one upstairs, it was ok for me also.
Today, as the Dick has a “sore cock” sympthomes because of yesterdays four sessions, now, Brains rules apply and Dick can only comply. Brain decided that Russian will be a nice start to that night...
Before deciding, I already knew it will be a nice session, but it was much better than my expectations. She lay me down, she kneeled on fours and started a BBBJ, without using her hands. She sucked me for about 10 minutes, but I never see her hands touching my dick, even to pull it to her mouth. Every movement of her has been done by her lips, tongue and mouth, I can feel every details of her juicy mouth, then she slipped all the way down to my balls, she licked them, again no hands. I kept her hands with my hands, in order to be sure he won’t use them, she just smiled.
After this awesome BBBJ process, she take a condom and I tried to pull my dick in order to ease the process of taking condom over it but she wave her head telling me “NO”, she want to put the condom without her hands and without my hands.
I go her deep inside, first in mish. She liked mine, I liked hers. She was all tight... Tight body, tight pussy, tight ass. She was a bit nympho, she started to scratch my back and my leg, she started to gently spank but it was uncomfortable for me, so she stopped. I turn her in four legs. It was nice to pump her ass in doggy style. We had to change the condom, which was removed, somehow. Then, a nice spoon style. The condom wasn’t very comfortable and she get this situation, she slipped it and started again a BBBJ, this time with the help of her hands. Does she tries to do a CIM as an extra? Maybe not but I can’t be sure of that. I was close to completion and take the dick and helped the ejaculation, but not to her juicy mouth. Maybe, she won’t charge it as an extra, because, we clicked, and she was a real nympho. She told me later that she felt also something and she continued. She later told, she does S & M in some special clubs but in an FKK, this wasn’t possible. That explains now all that scratches, spanks and so on. Even the normal sessions take maximum 20 min, there, we were slightly over it. I gave her 30 Euro and told, I want to see her again. She told, there were other girls too, and I should check the other, as well. Of course, I want to sample some others, but if I find a “safe bet”, I can go for it, again and again. This is Day 2 and now “Brain’s Rule Apply, not the Dick’s”.
After Mercedes, who drove me crazy, I should find a nice session quite similar to this previous one. I sat beside a chubby Polish girl and asked her if there were only Polish girls or there were also some Russian girls, in this club. She was a very honnest girl, she showed me the other corner of the main lounge, there were two more Russians (in fact, later, I found that one of them were Russian, the other one was Ukranian) but they were in high demand by customers.
Suzie
I saw that the Russian tiny blond girl was always busy, she was always in high demand. This shoul also be a good sign. She then went to a room with a Turkish customer. I waited her. They return fast. Does she process fast or a quick customer? Anyway, I should give her a try. I waited again the moment she returned from cleaning and greeted her in Russian, she replied me in Russian. When I looked closer, I though I saw her in Freude two years ago; is she Dashia, from Irkutsk? I asked her name, she said Suzie. My ackward Russian has its limits here, I asked whether she can speak some English, she replied she can speak only a few but I guess this would be managable. I invited her to sit somewhere, in order to get to know each other closer. She says she is from a surronding city of St. Petersburg. She worked previously in Penelope, she never gone to Freude, nor Golden Time but she heard about all those clubs, because she has some girl friends who works there. No, she wasn’t the same girl I met, two years ago, but I should admit there is a resemblance and similarities within typical Russian women; the shape of noses, the color of eyes, pale skin, the type of hair cut etc... This is not a stereotype but I guess I can detect a Russian women from a certain distance, with a high success ratio.
Suzie has a real nice personality, she always smile and reply your questions. If I wouldn’t invite her to room, she may sit beside me for a long time, to have more intimacy, free of charge. But I don’t have that much time and I don’t want to steal her time, as well. There were enough customers who were looking at her, challenging to be the next one, after me. So, we moved to a room. She showed me the rooms downstairs but I wanted to go again upstairs, which is more calm then here.
In the room, when she was totaly naked, it was nice to watch that Russian body, in dimmed light. She was nice to touch, to caress and kiss (no DFK, shallow ones). She has good skill at BBBJ, and at the sex, especially mish was very nice. It was so nice that we forget to cross the time barrier, actually, she doesn’t look to her watch, I was the one who was anxious about the timing. But after 20 min, I couldn’t cum. This is not her fault, I had too many sessions in two days. She decided to ride me, she tried to reach me to completion, then she continued with that nice, juicy BBBJ, for at least 10 more minutes. It was so nice but it was obvious that nothing left from my side, in those two days visits. So I apology and stopped her. She was a bit disappointed about me of not cuming but I know, even I continue one hour, I wouldn’t come, maybe only dry cum.
When we gone downstairs, to the lockers, I gave her 50 Euro note, I didn’t expect for a change, because it was already more than 35 minutes passed in the room, but she gave change of 20 Euro. She was honnest. But later, I felt myself bad, by stealing her time, actually, I should tip her. I know that in these club, customers generally stays 5 or 10 minutes in the room, that is why 20 minutes which is way short is not an issue for these clubs. I recall a German girl of FKK World, asking a 100 Euro, for the extra 5 minutes we have passed in the room (actually we weren’t). And that Russian girl of FKK Salome, charged me only 30 Euro for 35 wonderful minutes in the room (without any climax, my fault, not her).
After this session, I was indecisive whether to continue with that Ukranian women or should I give a try to Polish ones. I had also an eye to a stunning German blond girl, but after I had some conversation, I decided not to take her. It was 2.30 am, I wanted to have more sleep today, I called it that night.
During my stay, I had a conversation with an old local customer, 64 years old, and he kept mongering as he lives in NRW since 40 years. He surely had enough knowledge about that former Red Carpet chain. He told me about the new owner and the renovation he made recently in FKK Salome. He also told a funny story he had in a former RC club in Appleberk (this should be former Mausi’s, don’t forget to kiss the German flag while entering). He says BelAmi is in downhill since a couple of years. He also agree that Bulgarian and Romanian SPs are generally not honnest and they don’t keep their promises, he is a fan of German and Russian ones, in terms of services.
For my part, Yes, I do love Russian girls. They are attractive to my taste, they are generaly honnest and they give good service. Next time, I should search Penelope to find more Russian women, but Salome also would be on my list, I want to sample some of Polish chicks, I spotted there.
When returning home from Dusseldorf International Airport, in the Duty Free section, I saw that they made a special discount promotion for a Russian vodka Russian Standart Platinum. I like Russian Platinum blondes, so I bought two bottle of vodka. My favorite spirit is not Smirnoff any more, I switched to Russian Standart . With those Russki girls providing a high standart of service, it is hard to be disappointed, they will always be a safe bet for me, and I keep repeting them till I find the perfect girl friend experience (maybe a girlfriend in Moscow ?)
Fazit: Salome is not any more a low cost club, compared to Bel Ami or some others such as Villa Erotika, Grimberg Sauna, Villa Venus and FKK Penelope . The old punter told me they were going, once upon a time, to that kind of places for 20 Euro and now, they increased the entry to 30-35 Euro. If you pay a few more Euro, you may spend your time to Freude which is not that far, they have more food and more Baltic girls. You may even go to FKK Amnesia which has a big outdoor for just 19 Euro, which is also way close, in Castrop Rauxel.
Here in Salome, your damage for sessions might be as low as 30 Euro, but this is for 20 minutes, which is more or less the same cost per minutes. If you are that cost conxious, instead of Salome, you may go to FKK Acapulco, nearby, walk in as early bird for just 25 Euro, and spend 40 Euro for 30 min of session, you will have a bigger club atmosphere and some more girls, but food is as bad as in Salome.
I, on the other hand, want to sample, at least once more, FKK Salome. I want to see how this, long waited summer garden was finished and I want to sample a few Polish girls, there.
Even this is not a low cost, the total damage of that second night for me was as low as 95 Euro (35 E entrance + 30 E Mercedes + 30 E Suzie). It was another fun time for less then 100 Euro. In two days, I spent 95 Euro each day for clubs and girls.
First day, I have sessioned four times for 95 Euro, second day I had only two but memorable sessions for 95 Euro. If I have to compare both clubs and girls, I can say Salome is cleaner and has better and newer facilities in the promises. The quality and the number of the girls are quite similar, but there are less Romanian and Bulgarian girls in Salome.
When I consider my hotel room cost 79 Euro per night in Ibis Bochum zentrum, or when I consider one of my previous FKK visit was Artemis which I paid 80 Euro just for the entrance, 95 Euro per day for full of fun is not a big damage for my budget. Initially, I planned to sample some more expensive flat rate clubs in the area (150 Euro/day) in those two days, but as I had restricted time and energy, I am happy to have this availability of low cost clubs and the availability of “Russky Standart” in that part of NRW.
He also told a funny story he had in a former RC club in Appleberk (this should be former Mausi’s, don’t forget to kiss the German flag while entering).Now we are intrigued. So tell us (if that can be published), what was the funny story you heard ?
Not so funny is that the building in Aplerbeck has been recently (http://www.presseportal.de/polizeipresse/pm/4971/1634189/polizei_dortmund) destroyed by fire. The house had just been renovated and the new club FKK Extase (http://www.fkkclub-extase.de/) (which had been mentioned some time ago on Mausi's website as a gay club) was expected to open this week-end. Arson is suspected (http://freierjournal.com/?p=761), due to creeping wars between club owners. It wouldn't be the first 'accident' in the history of Bahnhofstrasse 5, anyway. The german flag is safe and sound in the new location of Mausi's club (http://www.mausi-und-team.de/).
The german flag is safe and sound in the new location of Mausi's club (http://www.mausi-und-team.de/).
Natuerlich.
Wir sind Deutschland!!!
Hessen Bub
06-27-10, 19:30
Advertisement on ladies.de doesn't show any signs off delays. Think they will open on Thursday. 10am.
HB
Now we are intrigued. So tell us (if that can be published), what was the funny story you heard ?
The guy went there with ayounger buddy. They paid each 42 Euro to enter. The price stucture was complicated, according to him. If there is less guest, you pay more and if there is more customer inside, you pay less. The place was under the management of Polish guys.
The younger guy went for a session and he returned too fast. He has poor ejaculatory control and he cum into girls mouth, by mistake. That was not a part of their deal. The girl shouted and went to the management to complaint. The young guy defend herself that was the girls mistake, she rushed him. But the management kick his ass to out. And old punter involve saying he is his friend, and they packed him also out. Then they objected saying they have paid the entrance and the management refund them 27 Euro each. If this story is for real, what is so funny about it, was the way how they calculate the entry price, and also how they found this amount of 27 Euro to refund. Do they count their time inside the premises? Are they mathematics or professors or so?
Even today, the pricing structure in those clubs are always complicated. I cehcked recently the web page of Bel Ami, and now, they have an offer of 5x110 Euro. But you can't be sure, unless you call them or you visit them.
An ISG comrade paid more or less 200 Euro to a top Polish girl for 2 hours in a low cost club in Dorsten. Sometimes, this are not that low cost, those small clubs...
I am in search of low-cost clubs, or in other words, former Rot Tappiche to visit in Germany;
I have already done FKK F40 (Dietzenbch)
F39 Freude (Bochum)
Sauna Grimberg (Gelsenkirchen)
Villa Venus (Duisburg)
Bel Ami (Dortmund)
Penelope (Essen)
Salome (Riemke)
In the list;
Villa Arabella (Entry not granted for the reason of not speaking German)
Villa Romantika (Couldn't locate the place at last my attempt, will try again later)
Villa Erotika (Next time)
Mausi's (Not speaking German, do not intend to try)
Are there any other small clubs in this area, that I might sample?
Connaisseurs advice needed?
http://web.archive.org/web/20060423070234/http://www.fkk-200nackedeis.de/index2.html
According this web archive map, there were some more clubs, which doesn't exist any more?
FKK Total is emerged by Freude, obviously.
What is Club Neby? Former Salome?
FKK Syburg is history, at the moment, I guess...
Hello!
Club Neby is getting a lot of attention and good reviews at Freiercafe.
I Köln the guys who runs Samya has opened a lowcost club Mondial. Just like Samya the service level is high and the girls are over average. Some of the girls are going back and forth between Samya and Mondial.
T
Advertisement on ladies.de doesn't show any signs off delays. Think they will open on Thursday. 10am.
HB
The advertisement shows nothing of the club. If they truely plan on opening in 3 days, you'd think they'd have some photo's of the club to entice people into visiting.
Someone also pointed out that with the world soccer going on, now wouldn't be the best time to try opening a new club.
What is Club Neby? Former Salome?
No, it's a different club:
Club Neby
Martener Straße 539
44379 Dortmund
Tel: 0173 24 66 100
Web: http://www.neby.de
If you like turkish oriented clubs, you could also try Fkk Club Cleopatra-Arena (http://www.cleopatra-arena.de) in Gelsenkirchen.
Creature2 -
New club just opened with so far no reports on german forums -
Club Ambrosia Ruhrstraße 10 45701 Herten-Westerholt (near Gelsenkirchen). No idea of prices.
http://www.club-ambrosia.de/
http://passion-angel.de/
Are there any other small clubs in this area, that I might sample?
Connaisseurs advice needed?
No that is about it, with the addition of Neby (see below).
Freude, although ex-RTC is not a typical low cost FKK currently.
B30
I read on the HP that at the day of opening entrance will be 40 Euro.
@Vitrea: The site is available also in the English language :)!
http://www.fkk-mainhattan.de/?menue=home_weiter
B30
Thank you. I Google translated it from the ladies.de site thinking that I am being helpful....not realizing that it is the same info on their website. Oops.
day 4
i had three days in nrw with lots of fun, sex and a sore cock; http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1038194&postcount=502
this was my fourth and last day and i had a flight in the early evening. i had a few options; either to go to fkk amnesia or to visit penelope in essen. of course, essen was closer to dusseldorf airport compared to amnesia which is located in castrop rauxel.
there was a stau in german autobahn, so i arrived a bit late than i supposed to be there. the club opened at noon time and i arrived there at 1 pm sharp. this would let me only two hours in this small club. i buzzed in. from the entrance and beside the theke, you can view the main lounge and most of the contact area. there were only two customers and it is supposed to be two girls at the moment (according to the thekefrau), but at first sight, i saw only one of them, a girl from turkey which is quite attractive on the looks department.
http://www.clubpenelope.de/
thekefrau asked if i would walk in or not, i decided to stay there, because my other option is going to castrop rauxel to fkk amnesia but i could spend only one hour there (for 19 euro, drink excluded) in order to be able to catch my flight. here, in penelope, i could spend two hours and less stress to drive fast to catch the flight back home. so, i decided to try penelope. i read many good things about the line-up, and this could be a preview of penelope for me, another discovery. i plan to visit this place in late july, for a longer stay, and i will see the line-up in the evening time.
in penelope, the entrence price is 20 euro during weekdays and 30 euro during weekends, and this is only in the morning time. and in the evenings, the entrance is raised to 35 euro. it is supposed to be some buffet in the evening but i didn’t see any of them, since i stayed only two hours in the afternoon. i had only some coffee and few cookies. compared to big clubs, there is nothing to justify this high entry price apart from the girls, which is supposed to be nice.
penelope should be also a part of that famous former red carpet, but now, it is supposed to be under the hands of a mob. i asked to thekefrau, whether there was a link, once upon a time, with belami, salome, villa venus and penelope. but i get she is not that comfortable about my interrogation, neither about the history, nor about now and then of this place. she says they have rules in this house and it is not that good to talk about the other places, inside penelope, and especially no talk with the girls on those subjects and the competitor clubs. i don’t want to get involve, myself, to any trouble, so i don’t return to this subject again, with her.
my curiosity is because of the nostalgia of ancient brothels, which raise my expectation of erotism. maybe this is influenced by some classical porn movies (with hairy pussies all around) that i prefer to view instead of the modern age ones private movies (with shaved pussies, lovely thin blonds). it was also nice to sit in a couch of penelope and to check the surrounding area, the red ancient brothel decoration, that classical brothel atmosphere is priceless for me. by the way, they have still that dirty red carpet on the floor, but they removed the fabric couches and switched to the leather ones.
in this time of the day, there was not much girls, but there is some customer ringing and getting in. so, thekefrau sent a girl to the girls dormitory to wake a few girls, because there are more customers now. some of the girls (mostly turkish, bulgaro-turks and romano-turks girls) sleep there, on the other hands, the other girls such as polish, russian, romanian who lives nearby comes later. there should be more than 40 nice girls in the peak time, maybe after 8 pm.
this place is real funny, i had lots of fun to watch the sleepy girls coming out their dormitory with half closed eyes, without make-up and without clothes but only a towel. i had some funny conversation with girls and also thekefrau was also fun to chat with, apart being too serious about business. i observed that the big majority of the customers were local turkish guys.
the place is a shithole; because the lockers downstairs and the showers are very dirty, stinky and old, worn-out pieces of shit. the rooms are also worn out but cleaner than the showers and toilets. the main lounge was ok on the cleanliness department and there were plenty of clean towel, all available during my whole stay. the design of the rooms and the display of the towels reminds me of sauna grimberg in gelsenkirchen.
when i first changed my clothes, i saw a sign that the customer should keep their valuable in the safe deposit, so i did it this way, this is also more practical to pay directly to the girl, here. in order to use the safe, they changed my locker key, but later, i found that this key is not operating the big lockers downstairs, again real funny.
since i stayed more or less two hours, till 3 pm, i didn’t see much girls to my liking. i was thinking to left the place without any sessions. maybe, may they refund some of the entry price? neee, i don’t think so. there were only two chubby bulgarian girls which nobody is taking away. but on the other hand, nice turkish girls was always busy and the local punters were always fast to take the girls to the room. as fast as a new nice girl enters the lounge, she has been taking immediately by a punter and went to a room. this didn’t let me the opportunity to observe and then approach my best option for the day. later i saw a new girl entered to the club, she has a different attitude and she has with some persona,. she was fast to change into her work dress and do the make-up. she was a very attractive, tall girl, with fake blond short cutted hair. but again, a local punter (they probably knows which girls are good to go with) take her so fast, to a room. i went to theke frau and asked her, where she comes from. her name is isabella and she comes from romania. bulls-eye! i asked without hope, whether she speaks english. thekefrau answered me isabella speaks so many languages, including english. i was convinced and waited her. i knew this won’t take too long because the sessions here are only 20 min, and some of the local punters were faster than that. she returns soon in the lounge area, she went to the bar, i was sitting in a couch and i smiled her, she smiled back to me. meanwhile, i saw another punter also readying himself to approach her. but hey, this is not a flatrate or partytreff, we are not supposed to challenge for girls. this should be a relax atmosphere, where we sit back and wait for the best options. i felt if i wait that long now, either i will loose the opportunity to get her, either i will miss my flight. so, i stand up, went to the bar (before the other punter did), invite her to one of the couch to have some more conversation. actually, she didn’t expect that invitation as the others always drag her directly to the room.
isabella
she speak a decent english, spanish and italian, wow, i am impressed, a smart girl in this shithole. after some of short conversation, she asked whether i would interested in going to the rooms. she is not used to kill much time in the lounge, she prefers the action. i replied i didn’t see yet the rooms, maybe she can guide me to one of them, then i followed her. in the room, when she was naked, i can see that her body is beautiful enough. i told her, beforehand, that i am not that quick like the local guys and i had too many sex the day before and i can’t finish in 20 min. she says; “no problem, if you don’t finish, i make you some more blowjob and handjob”. so, we began to get some serious action. she was good at giving head, she has nice bbbj skills, but it was a bit short/the total session should be short). later she put a condom on me, and start to ride me, but she was uncomfortable in this position, then i turned into mish. this is also not that comfy for me, so we began a fast doggy style. wow, this is really a fast and wild one, i felt i am tired and stopped. she checked the condom and saw i didn’t finished. she try to slip away the condom but i stop her and say i want to do one last round, that i felt i can finish. and i started to shag her in spoon, really fast, which i concentrated and reached into climax inside that romanian pussy. isabella, the lovely romanian girl, what did you do to me? after all those 4 days, 12 sessions and 8 cum, i can hardly believe that i could cum in twenty minutes, but i did my ninth orgasm, this was a real fast fuck. as an fkk comrade said earlier, “god bless those romanian girls”.
after the session, i paid her 25 euro and went ownstairs to shower and change where i get that i should change again the locker key. (in some previous reports, they says the price is 25 euro/20 min, with covered blow job, and you should pay a 10 euro extra for bareback blowjob. maybe this is history. now, i saw everywhere in the club, a german notice, saying 25 euro brings you a blowjob without condom and sex with condom). after changed the key and then changed my clothes, i return to the bar and returned my key to thekefrau. she says i am late for my flight. i hope there is no stau in this afternoon of saturday. before leaving, i asked if i return another day, after 6 pm, can i see some russian and polish girls, here. she says that polish girls already arrived and showed me a marvelous blond girl, that blondinka stood up and opened the main gate for me. ouch, i wish i could stay some more couple of hours. probably, i miss the real fun part of penelope, by leaving that early. but anyway, this was a preview for my next visit, to penelope, in late july.
ps: i shouldn't had speed that much in the autobahn, the roads were almost empty in midday. when i get dusseldorf airport terminal, to check-in and then boarding my plane, i saw lots of beautiful blond german girls. either this is frankfurt or dusseldorf, when leaving, after those handful beautiful sessions, i am always more hornier than, when arriving to germany. is this just me, or is this a common pain of a punter who had to leave this lovely country?
@ Big30, Tjhoo, Varenne, Cordelia Shiatsu,
Thank you for your reply on low-cost clubs. That Club Neby would be on my radar, when in the area at the end of July. If it any good, I will post the first report on that.
Creature2 - Ambrosia is 20E entry and 40E for 20 minutes (basic service). From reports on German forum it seems that it is like LaLuna in facilities and service, (but with less attractive workers?)
She says they have rules in this house and it is not that good to talk about the other places, inside Penelope, and especially no talk with the girls on those subjects and the competitor clubs. I don’t want to get involve, myself, to any trouble, so I don’t return to this subject again, with her.No surprise they were uncomfortable with that kind of question, especially while competitor clubs in Ruhrgebiet are bursting in flames (see the arson (http://freierjournal.com/?p=761) at Club Extasia at the end of June).
Creature2 - Ambrosia is 20E entry and 40E for 20 minutes (basic service). From reports on German forum it seems that it is like LaLuna in facilities and service, (but with less attractive workers?)I think basic service should presently be 25€ (special opening offer). Bareback service is quoted at 60€/20', 90€/30'. Only few girls in the line-up, and allegedly not that attractive either.
Villa Arabella (Entry not granted for the reason of not speaking German)
I recently visited club Arabella, where I had a long conversation in English in the hall with one of the girls (Julia), and we didn't get any nasty looking. It's otherwise true that Barbara, the Thekenfrau, will not try any effort to speak in any language other than German, and you shouldn't try to force her either. Walk to the counter, make an effort to greet her in German, read the board with the current offer over the counter (a list of entries in the "xx X yy€" form, pretty straightforward), point the finger at your choice, don't ask questions and keep your money at the ready. That should do the trick. Than turn your back and follow the "Umkleide" signal down the stairs, get changed, get back in hall, find a girl who speaks English and ask her any further question you might have. It's otherwise true that the clientele is mostly German, and so not that many girl are fluent in English. You should definitely expect a deny entry, and no matter how well you speak German, only if you are Muslim in appearance (not the management nor the girls welcome the Turkish clientele).
I entered the club at noon, and there where 9 girls. I was told more were due to arrive, but I couldn't witness any new arrival during my stay. The club was buzzing with local customers, a good sign (became quieter at midafternoon). The current offer was: 1x40, 2x55, 3x65. I choose the 3x variation and didn't regret, actually I think this was excellent value for money. I agree with Creature2 that at those prices, those low cost clubs can be an appealing alternative to Partytreffs, as far as the financial and service quality aspect is concerned (that is, if you're not that interested in open/group sex), unless you can devote a whole day to the visit. I asked Barbara if the current price offer was normal or just a special time limited offer. She couldn't give me a clear answer, and advised me to call before visiting to ask the current prices. I noticed that the boards, which I had seen on my previous visit, listing the prices for extras had disappeared. I had a session with Julia (a petite german), and two bulgarians (the chatty and sparkling Gaby, and the tall Sissy), all unrushed (I actually can't tell you how long are the session expected to last, as all the girls where willing to stay and chat in the room at the end of the proceedings). All of the girls provided DFK free of charge (it was quoted 5€ on my previous visit), BBBJ, fingering. Gaby and Sissy asked 30€ for BB (cum inside), while this was not an option with Julia. All of the sessions were procedeed by a fondling, kissing and blowing preamble on the couches (for the nostalgics, those are still the original RTC couches). As usual, food was limited to soup, bread rolls, and cookies. Nothing fancy, but more than enough to keep you from starving even if you plan a long stay. It's good that any payment is made at the counter (even for extras), so any dispute which might possibly arise would be immediately settled with the management (that means virtually stunt free service). There's a glass jar on the counter, filled with tightly wrapped sets of folded bancknotes. The girl will pick-up her reward directly from the jar.
Mausi's (Not speaking German, do not intend to try)This might be a wise decision, while lack of German would prevent you from effective conversing with a significant part of girls. But I like to point out that lack of german is not the basis for a deny entry. While Mausi is indeed pretty xenofobic, there's a whole range of nationalities which are noneteless wellcome in the club. Quite surprisingly (considering USA contribution to the defeat of the Nazis) this especially applies to North Americans guests (those who doubt it, have a close look at Mausi website (http://www.mausi-und-team.de/), and you'll find listed an address in Denver. Furthermore, whoever had a chance to visit the photo gallery in the old web site, might remember the star and stripes being granted the same dignity as the german flag). On the other hand, no chance if your appearance is Mediterranean/East European (once more, no matter how well you speak german). Pay also attention, even if you're fluent with the language of some of the east european service providers (Russian/Polish/Czech/Romanian ...), stricktly to refrain from using it in the common room, or you'll immediatley get a nasty looking from Mausi, possibly culminating in an Hausverbot.
While I have no prejudices toward any ethnic group, I tend to favour german oriented clubs for several (somewhat higly subjective) reasons:
- real FKK (though at Mausi's, some girls tend to stay wrapped from top to toe in towels; in winter time this might have something to to with savings on the heating expenses);
- action can normally start right on the couches (exhibitionists be aware though, nobody will pay any attention);
- DFK can generally be taken for granted (not so in the Turkish oriented clubs);
- girls are always easy to approach. Even if the girl of your choiche is engaged with a customer, they will soon enough disappear to a room. Otherwise, Turkish circles can monopolize the girls for hours on end. Several times I found myself close to the club closing time with an unused prepaid card, while the girls I had choosen had always been unapproachable;
- music background selection;
- drinks are more often than not self-service;
- last but not least, toilet conditions.
Yesterday I took one for the team and attended the Grand Opening of FKK Manhattan.
Location: Industrial area outside Frankfurt. Generally isolated.
No nearby public transit observed.
I recommend you take a taxi and get his business card, as I did not see any around the building. I drove and if not for my GPS would have had a problem finding it.
Ambience: Brand-new facility. However, it is like a maze when moving through the facility. Lots of separate areas that seem isolated from one another. Outdoor area includes a nice pool and refreshment bar with some food available. Inside dining area was small but adequate with a decent food selection.
Beer is Free and on tap.
Rooms were clean and functional. No pillows and limited to zero ventilation.
Girl / Guy ratio: I did not take a head count, but it seemed like at least 3-guys per girl.
Clients and girls: Seemed like mostly non-Germans. Lots of young guys (Turkish, etc.). Ninety percent (90%) of the girls were Romanians around 20-25 years old. Also a few older Dominicans and one Brazilian MILF.
My thoughts: It was an amusing visit and interesting to watch the stuff they had lined up for the Grand Opening such as: "Punk-Rock Elvis on Stilts" he was about 15 meters tall; A Transvestite "Party Announcer" who announced the raffles and periodic upstairs "Gang Bangs"; Lots of Pole dancers from Romania.
However, as much as I enjoyed the free beer and decent fried chicken, the place was not as erotic or relaxing as Oase or even Palace. It seemed as if the girls present were just checking the place for future possibilities. I also have the impression there may be some regulars that are recent imports from Romania and from the looks on their face not really excited about the job.
It also appeared that for many guys it was a “First Visit” to an FKK and they were somehow convinced to drop by for the Grand Opening.
Incidentally, I went with two girls: First a Romanian who had limited talents. Second, the MILF from Brazil who gave an OK massage but was generally not impressive.
Basketcase
07-03-10, 10:27
Options in West Willich
This is not about FKKs and sauna clubs per se but since the Etap hotel in West Willich is used by many here I thought I may add this since it may be of interest if you are feeling horny at 1:30 am after being frustrated at the 1 am closing of a local sauna club.
The Etap hotel in West Willich is a tried and tested place to stay for those visiting sauna clubs like Golden Time, Living Room, Planet Happy Garden or Villa Vertigo. Villa Vertigo is the club that the Etap hotel in West Willich is closest to. The Etap hotel is basic but clean and does the job since many of us are only staying a short while and only use it to sleep.
If you are feeling horny still then there are options within walking distance of the Etap hotel. You can always wander over the McDonalds down the road to sate your appetite with a hamburger. See picture attached. What you do is walk past the Jet petrol station and head in the direction of Willich village itself.
For those in the know you can always walk a little bit further down Siemenstrasse that is opposite the McDonalds and visit Eurogirls club brothel which closes at 05:00 on Fridays and Saturday nights. See picture attached.
If you walk around the corner from Eurogirls club brothel you come across a condom vending machine in the street and streetwalker action. Yes, it appears there are streetwalkers around here too and you can see the yellow telephone booths or secluded bushes where business can be conducted.
Further along Siemenstrasse you find a place to relax and unwind with maybe a happy ending with a nice local girl. Yes, there is Royal Massage parlour where extras are obligatory perhaps. See picture attached.
Purportedly from another ISG member there is a porno studio in the area where films are produced. Men can be propositioned to join in the filming of a gang bang as an extra cock that can be used to fuck the young actress.
So you can go to Villa Vertigo or Golden Time and then finish up at the Etap Hotel in West Willich for some local action at Royal Massage or Eurogirls club or from the local street action.
Details:
Etap hotel West Willich
Gewerbegebiet Jackob-Kaiser Strasse 5
47877 Willich
Germany
For those in the know you can always walk a little bit further down Siemenstrasse that is opposite the McDonalds and visit Eurogirls club brothel which closes at 05:00 on Fridays and Saturday nights. For added information: Eurogirls is Partytreff Willich. It just changed names. There is a dedicated thread to it under the Partytreff section.
Options in West Willich
EuroGirls-Club, Willich
Öffnungszeiten
Montag bis Donnerstag 11:00h bis 01:00h
Freitag und Samstag 14:00h bis 05:00h
Sonntag und Feiertags 14:00h bis 01:00h
http://www.eurogirls-club.de/
Was there last Saturday, was more than impressed! Lorena ex-VV is now working in Willich. Indeed Eurogirls is less than 1mile from the Etap Hotel in Willich!
But I never saw streetwalkers in that region! Walking from the Jet petrol station you cross the street but that is not the the route to the center of Willich. Then you must go to the left.
Eurogirls is a Flatrateclub.
B30
I know that World has several different VIP cards, the red vip card is 260 and the gold is 475. Why then only allow the gold vip card holders to use the card at both clubs? Also wonder how they will keep track of the vip usage? Call the club that has the vip information (world)?
Hessen Bub
07-06-10, 12:29
Ruhig, Brauner, ruhig. Easy! ;)
There will be a card available for sale at World and Mainhattan. Front showing World and Mainhattan logo and a holograph for security reasons. Back side showing 10 small circles that will be stamped at each visit, so they will be keeping track on your bonus card and not in a file at one of the clubs. Cost should be 475 EUR. But let's wait and see.
HB
Public transport should be available, Strassenbahn to Daimlerstrasse and a five min walk.
O je, o je, you Germans have a nice intelligent sense of humour: here in Paris, any place situated more than 200M from a fully integrated metro station counts as "out of reach of public transport". :)
But, I'll be in Hessen next week and look forward to sampling the Mainhattan. It looks to me like the people behind World are playing a two-horse raise. Possibility one: Palace has had a monopoly in FFM for too long, have jogged prices up too high and have allowed their working girls to become way too smart. Possbility two: Palace have got it right, there is room for premium prices and mediocre service in FFM. For this reason, there's plenty of space for a "garden club" to supplement Palace's nightclub ambience. Any which way round, Mainhattan is going to win. Strictly as a client, however, I hope that its the first concept that will emerge victorious. :)
Eric Cartman
07-07-10, 00:27
Wanted to throw a review of Ying Yang (NL) into here since it's so close to GoldenTime and I first heard about it on these boards.
Drove over to Ying Yang (in Roermond, NL) today from DUS -- was about 53KM I think, a straight shot pretty much on the road that runs to Bruggen. Funny thing was driving through the little town of Roermond, watching all the bicyclists! The road to Ying Yang actually is a sharp little turn that crosses a bike path and left us scratching our heads if we were allowed to drive there.
The facilities at Ying Yang are first-rate. Super nice bar area (indoor), outdoor upper deck with chairs/tables/sofas, lower deck area around a big pool (with I think a sauna room), some outside cabins in the shade of trees, a big indoor sauna area with whirlpools and steam rooms.
Arrived at 3pm. Same pricing as GT -- 50 Eur entrance, 50 for 30 mins, 25 for next 30 (unless the girl charges more).
The line-up was not ideal -- lots of older girls with "Rubenesque" figures, i.e., saggy bottoms, saggy middles / little flab, etc. Where were all the lithe 20-somethings? After about 40 mins of biding my time, saw a little spinner appear out of nowhere -- super thin body, small natural breasts, flat tummy, nice shoulder-length blonde hair. Grabbed her immediately and took a chance. Cynthia from Hungary. She didn't want to go to one of the outdoor cabins as they were "too hot" -- so to an inside room. Nice girl, aimed to please, but lackluster BBBJ -- wouldn't go down far at all (said she couldn't). She did do decent eye contact. Couple of positions made more interesting by the mirror on the ceiling. I think she actually came 2x while being fucked -- she got all red in the appropriate places, and it sure sounded like it. Surprised me. All in all, a great body to watch and a good but not great time. Plus ... she's 20! Half my age!!! Yay!! :)
Hung out for the 5pm BBQ -- cattle-call as all the girls and punters headed out to eat it. Nice spread.
Overall, worth the trip for some variety. Hotter girls (more of them) at GT and LR. My friend ended up with a very tall Blonde German girl who he said was great, and there were 1-3 more hotties, but at least on a Tuesday the Yin Yang selection was as described above.
Weird fact: on the way back to Germany, we cross the border and are cruising along in our C-class Mercedes when out of nowhere we see flashing lights behind us on a white BMW. They pull us over and 2 plainclothes dudes walk up to the car and say "Police. Passport check. Give us your passports." I'm like, um, you look like a 30-something German in street clothes and I don't see a badge ... where is your badge? Confusion ensues in the translation. Finally I get him to show me an ID which looks like a photocopied laminated card. I'm like, well, here goes nothing ... we turn over our passports, and they tell us to drive ahead of them to the next freeway exit. We get there, they come up to the car again, ask how long we were in Holland (a few hours), ask how long we are in Germany (1 week), and then give us our passports back. Then he says "Do you have any Hashish or Marijuana?" I'm like, um, why do you want some? ;) "No, not at all." Then they let us go. Super odd.
Ruhig, Brauner, ruhig. Easy! ;)
There will be a card available for sale at World and Mainhattan. Front showing World and Mainhattan logo and a holograph for security reasons. Back side showing 10 small circles that will be stamped at each visit, so they will be keeping track on your bonus card and not in a file at one of the clubs. Cost should be 475 EUR. But let's wait and see.
HB
They must have made the card especially for you! What prevents a few punters from sharing the same card to save on entrit fees? At World your name is in a book.
Hessen Bub
07-07-10, 06:53
They must have made the card especially for you! What prevents a few punters from sharing the same card to save on entrit fees? At World your name is in a book.
As I said, let's wait and see. The information posted is what one of the guys I know from World/Mainhattan management told me. He did even show the dummy card which did not yet have the holograph. Details for procedures will be available on their website in near future, I suppose.
BTW: At Palace you get 6 VIP-Cards for the price of 5. No personalization, you can share them with 5 friends. Who cares? They have their adavance payment, period.
HB
The road to Ying Yang actually is a sharp little turn that crosses a bike path and left us scratching our heads if we were allowed to drive there.
Weird fact: on the way back to Germany, we cross the border and are cruising along in our C-class Mercedes when out of nowhere we see flashing lights behind us on a white BMW. They pull us over and 2 plainclothes dudes walk up to the car and say "Police. Passport check. Give us your passports." .
Nice report. If memory serves me, the only way to get to the driveway of YY is to go on the bikepath. I remember driving up and down looking for the club and finally seeing the Ying Yang sign hanging from the tree's. Never would have found it had it not been for that sign.
The club is nice, the girls were decent on my two visits...but the chance of getting pulled over on the drive back keeps me from venturing back to this club.
Basketcase has brought this up before...alot of guys traveling to germany don't want to spend 475 euro's for 10 pass's. Its got to do with the amount of cash we can get out of a bank machine, a 475 bite the first day severely limits how much fucking we can do. Still might pick one up if that's the only card available next month, id rather pay 47 euro's than 75 anyday.
Basketcase
07-07-10, 22:13
Basketcase has brought this up before...alot of guys traveling to germany don't want to spend 475 euro's for 10 pass's. Its got to do with the amount of cash we can get out of a bank machine, a 475 bite the first day severely limits how much fucking we can do. Still might pick one up if that's the only card available next month, id rather pay 47 euro's than 75 anyday.
So right.
Reputable banks will place a limit on the amount of cash withdrawals that a client can make from an Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) and that limit can vary. My limit is so small since my bank is so much into safety and protection of its clients that I need to take a couple of different cards with me when I travel. This institution is one of those that are keen on austerity and impose it also on its clients. If you card limit is say 360 euro a day then basically that 475 euro up front payment has wiped out your first day's 360 euro and 32% of your second day's budget of 360 euro.
I do not take cash with me to exchange no more as the rates given are not very good on the continent. My bank does not charge me foreign exchange fees (can be 1%) or commissions (can be 2-3% depending), so I get the full rate.
It is such that it pays to have bank account in euro in addition. Useful when I am exiled to europe which happens a lot.
Breadman, so cool. You are going to Palace? The reason why I ask is that you say that you will be paying 75 euro for the entrance fee. 75 euro for entrance is what the rate is for Palace. It is Mainhattan and World and Oase have 65 euro entrance pricing.
If you do get the 10 visit VIP card for World and Mainhatten for 475 euro then indeed the average cost of entrance will reduce to 47.50 down from 65 euro if you did not have such a prepaid card. The Red VIP card at World is 260 euro for 5 entries making it 52 euro per entry down from 65 euro without the red VIP card.
The extra visit added on the 10 visit and 5 visit prepaid World cards is no longer available. The Thekefrau at World told me that it was a limited offer only.
I do not take cash with me to exchange no more as the rates given are not very good on the continent. My bank does not charge me foreign exchange fees (can be 1%) or commissions (can be 2-3% depending), so I get the full rate.BC, It is worth checking whether your bank converts the currency at the wholesale rate. Banks policies vary.
For example the Nationwide Bank uses http://www2.visaeurope.com/fxcalculator/ and 0% charges for converting Pounds into Euros. There is no ATM transaction charges for Germany. Banks that have similar polices provide the cheapest Euros that can be purchased.
For anyone who cannot take advantage of such good deals, alternatives are Travelex or better still city centre exchange bureaus often located near railway stations. These will offer 0% commision and can be very close to the wholesale rate (with 1.5% to 2%).
Member #4170
07-08-10, 01:00
If you do get the 10 visit VIP card for World and Mainhatten for 475 euro then indeed the average cost of entrance will reduce to 47.50 down from 65 euro if you did not have such a prepaid card. The Red VIP card at World is 260 euro for 5 entries making it 52 euro per entry down from 65 euro without the red VIP card..I would suggest that if anyone is planning on getting the card to use mainly at Mainhatten I would think a single visit first would be a good idea, was there tonight, will not be rushing back, nice enough place, strange layout, poor line up. Main problem rooms have no AC, not good in this weather. One girl/women said hello, maybe you buy me a picolo, I said thank you, but no thank you. Had one session with a world regular, nothing special, thru the motions. Room far to hot.
Card is good value for use at World.
Basketcase
07-08-10, 09:04
BC, It is worth checking whether your bank converts the currency at the wholesale rate. Banks policies vary.
Hi Talbot,
My bank does for retail customers convert currency at the wholesale rate. I check the institutional rate and when I check my bank statement I can see that I get pretty close to the institutional rate. This is one of the reasons why I bank with them. Many other banks wallop you with ATM usage fees, FX fees and commission fees that can eat into your euro once converted.
My main issue is that the daily cash withdrawal limit is quite small and the bank refuses to increase the limit since it is their standard policy, hence big up front payments on the first day of travel use up your cash euro budget.
You are going to Palace? The reason why I ask is that you say that you will be paying 75 euro for the entrance fee. 75 euro for entrance is what the rate is for Palace. It is Mainhattan and World and Oase have 65 euro entrance pricing
No plans to go back to Palace, I was pointing out the possible price variation between Palace's 75 euro's and Mainhattans 47 with a vip card.
Too bad to hear about the air conditioning issue, that's a big issue when the weather warms up. Notice they don't have any outside tents or cabins, so everything has to be done in those indoor rooms.
Does anybody know if the relationship between World/Mainhattan will possibly produce a deal similar to the GT/LR 50+25 combined Eintritt fee to both sister clubs? Like maybe 65+35 for entry into World and Mainhattan on the same day/night?
O
Does anybody know if the relationship between World/Mainhattan will possibly produce a deal similar to the GT/LR 50+25 combined Eintritt fee to both sister clubs? Like maybe 65+35 for entry into World and Mainhattan on the same day/night?
O
Valid question, would be good if someone checked it out.
When LR first opened, it was actually free entry to LR coming from GT at first. That was how many of us got to know LR and now it has actually become 1st choice of many when in NRW. I think the free entry to LR to start with and the discounted entry as follow up was a good strategy to get LR on the map.
The Vulcan
07-13-10, 09:24
Good day to all fellow mongers.
I shall be visiting Munich soon and wondering if anyone has had any previous experience in FKK Clubs in Munich.
I shall be staying for three days and would love to spend a couple of evenings in any FKK Clubs that are well recommended by someone who has been already.
Thanks again and happy mongering.
Vulcan
Your questions regarding FKK in the Munich area could be easily answered by taking some time and reading this forum. However, giving you the benefit of the doubt and in hope that you will possibly post a report or two on your possible adventures, I will tell you that there are not too many FKKs in the Munich area. However, not far from Munich (in Augsburg) is FKK Colosseum, which has an excellent reputation and IMO is by far the best FKK in Bavaria and on a par with the bigger Hessen clubs. The joint even has its own thread in this forum (Germany FKK Clubs).
Also see this link for FKK Colosseum Website: http://www.fkk-colosseum.de/
CD
Hessen Bub
07-15-10, 11:02
Main problem rooms have no AC, not good in this weather.
Take a room on the upper floor, next to the cinema. They should have A/C, as well as the rooms behind/next to the bistro.
You do now get a 10 EUR discount voucher each time you pay entry. Did not hear of any plans about a model like GT/LR.
HB
Member #4170
07-16-10, 05:30
Take a room on the upper floor, next to the cinema. They should have A/C, as well as the rooms behind/next to the bistro.
You do now get a 10 EUR discount voucher each time you pay entry. Did not hear of any plans about a model like GT/LR.
HBThanks HB for the tip about upper rooms. I did not get a discount voucher, I went on the last €40 day, and used the €5 voucher from World, so only paid 35.
I said to Franchesca in World on Saturday, that I had been and thought the place was very quiet, she said she thinks it was doing ok, never mentioned anything about a GT/LR system, I had asked her about that, 6 weeks ago, and told her what GT/LR do, she said she had no idea if they would do anything like that.
IPM
How can you travel to FKKMainhattan by transit?
It took me 35minutes to walk from Ostbanhoff
Does anybody know if the relationship between World/Mainhattan will possibly produce a deal similar to the GT/LR 50+25 combined Eintritt fee to both sister clubs? Like maybe 65+35 for entry into World and Mainhattan on the same day/night?
OJust out is a new combo-card with 10 visits to Mainhattan or World for 499 EUR.
Bit higher than the EUR 475 for 10 visits to World (I think I'm right on that price?), but I guess it's a way of trying Mainhattan more cheaply, and if it sucks, you can use the rest up at World. Worth a thought.
I haven't seen very many posts on the relatively new FKK Babylon in Hamburg so I figured since I've benefited quite a bit from all of your posts, I might as well share my brief first experience at Babylon.
When you first arrive near the area in the evening, there are actually quite a bit of working girls lined up on that street, west of the club. Not sure how that works, but they're usually just standing on the side of the road waiting for mongers to stop. And, they all seem to have a BMW or Mercedes parked right next to them with the lights on.
There's a small parking lot, but I've driven by a few times and there's always plenty of parking. Entrance fee is 65 euros, as listed on their website. Others are pretty standard (I. E. 50 for half hour, 100 for an hour, etc.) However, the "extras", which are usually pretty standard, such as BBBJ or DATY are 20 and 25 more, respectively. Could be the reverse (or one of them being kissing), I'm not 100% sure as I didn't agree to any of those.
The facilities are very new, so relatively clean compared to the other big club in Hamburg. The indoor area is big, with an indoor pool, sauna, food area (which I didn't try) and a non-alcoholic drink center station. There is also a very large outdoor area with lots of lounge chairs and couches so during good weather days, is very nice. The "VIP" area is just an area with a bar that serves alcohol and allows for smoking. The only other place you can smoke there is in the outdoor area.
It was a late Saturday night and there seemed to be about a ratio of 2-1 girls to guys. Talent probably averaged around a 7 or so. Talking to a few of them, they still feel that since the club is new, there aren't too many girls or customers at this point. It might take a few more months to catch on, if at all. Of the girls I came in contact with, there were some Romanians and Germans. Since the facilities were so large, if you stay lounging in one place, you probably won't get a good view of the girls, especially if it's dark outside. Maybe it was too warm on that night, but the girls seemed to just sit around in one place and didn't mingle too much. No one seemed overly aggressive so that was a plus.
The lockers are actual tall lockers made of metal. Showers and toilet nearby across the hallway. They handed me a robe at the front desk so all the towels were on shelves right outside the shower area. This was a new thing to get used to. Same thing with the shower near the sauna. You can hang your robe outside and take a couple towels in if you're used to that.
That night I went for a blonde spinner, forgot her name and country of origin, very nice body and face. I'd say overall, around an 8-9. 30 minute service with a covered BJ, reverse cg, cg, doggy to finish. Didn't feel rushed and was very pleasant.
Anyhow, didn't stay long as I arrive relatively late in the night. Club opens until 4am. In conclusion, I think this club has potential. May need to reduce the entrance fee a bit, and get rid of the "extras" that should be standard. And since it's closer to the Hamburg city centre compared to the other big club, it might have a shot. Who knows.
Hope this will help some of you and maybe more reports on Babylon will come out.
Just out is a new combo-card with 10 visits to Mainhattan or World for 499 EUR.
Thanks, Tosc, for this info. Whilst it is nice to have some sort of discount to encourage visiting both clubs, this is not exactly like the nice GT/LR arrangement; laying out virtually 500E in advance is not that friendly and certainly NOT what some of us are looking for. The arrangement you refer to seems to be more in the interests of the clubs' management than of the individual monger looking to spice up or extend his day/night play on one specific day.
But thanks because this is good to know...for some guys I guess.
Australiasucks
07-18-10, 12:45
With the heat wave cleared out by the morning rain, I decided to check out this new club on the other side of town from Palace. The club is easy to find even without GPS. It is located off a major road (Hanauer Landstr) with a lot of car dealerships. As you get off the 661 and head east, look for Daimlerstrasse on your right. Key signposts are the Peugeot dealership on your left. If you pass the Lexus dealership on the left, you've just missed Daimlerstr by half a block. Once on Daimlerstr just go down the street until it curves. The club is on the right. Location is industrial, reminds me of the location for Samya.
I arrived at 6pm and there were about 50 girls last night. The ratio of customers to girls was about 1:1. The club did not feel overcrowded. Standard club attire for customers is a large white towel whereas girls are fully naked so this is a true FKK. Besides the staff, the only other girls that are not naked are the dancers. They are also the better looking ones and unfortunately they are not available to take to the zimmer.
Girls: The overwhelming majority are Romanians (75%) with the rest Bulgarians or some Hungarians. Out of the lineup, there were no 9s and less than five 8s in looks. No Polish or German girls seen last night. I recognized Floria from LR (1. 70m, blond,. Ro) who's definitely an 8 in looks. Went to the zimmer with her. Solid service as before. She has been at Mainhattan for the last 5 days and is unlikely to return to LR. Another one of the 8s in my book was Victoria (20yo, blond, petite, natural see tits,. Ro). A tease outside the room, rushed service and too much acting in the room. Will not repeat. My best session of the night was with this petite 21 yrs old Hungarian/Romanian brunette who goes by the name of Jimena (sp?). She's been working at World for the last 3 years and it was her first day at Mainhattan. Prior to going to the room, we had quality couch time with some DFK and some messing around not to mention casual conversation in a mixture of English and German. In the room, this is one wild chick. It could be all those RedBulls mixed with alcohol. Top notch service including DFK, digits, DT, DATY, MPOS. No clock watching either. She even asked at the end whether I was happy with her service. This one is a gem. Later ended the night with a brunette with sparkling blue eyes and a nice smile (1. 60m, slim, C-cup, 7-8 in looks) from Bulgaria who doesn't speak German and only limited English. Standard but forgettable service.
Facilities: tastefully furnished, very modern and equipped with the latest technology. The majority of the rooms are upstairs and are keyless. There is a small electronic panel with three options: room is free, please. Clean the room, etc. Kino is also upstairs and is the site for gangbangs at 6pm and 10pm. The gangbangs last night were more like a menage a trois with some big size participants. Locker room feels more cramped compared to Palace. One end of the locker room gets you to the garden and the other end to the shower area which is connected to the bar. Garden is slightly larger than LR garden. There is a small outdoor pavilion where the food and BBQ are served. The pool is small and square and is next to the little pavilion. There is a jacuzzi area on a platform that could be covered in bad weather. The saunas (Finnish and wet saunas) and a resting area are down the hallway from the bar and adjoin the jaccuzzi. Overall, it's a well-designed layout that makes the most of the space and I'd give this club the edge over Palace.
Other: Quality of food is decent. Had Paella, grilled sausage, BBQ chicken brochettes, fresh fruits. Service staff attentive to details similar to GT and Palace. Very clean facilities.
Overall impression: The lineup needs some work. It would help to have more German, Polish and Russian girls in the line up. Cross-town rival Palace has a clear edge in the lineup. I like the fact that Mainhattan girls are not as sharky as some of the Palace girls. This club has potential as a worthy competitor to Palace. Will return within the next two months for another round of inspection of the lineup.Romanians and Bulgarians now dominate most of the lineups in many German clubs, nothing against them, but there used to be more variety at German clubs. Fewer Russian and Ukrainian girls at the FKK clubs might have to do with a lot of factors, especially the issue of work permits, its easier for Bulgarians and Romanians to get permits. GFE seems to be less common as well. Also many of the FKKs are now becoming sauna clubs and girls now wear clothes, that is a big thumbs down, the big appeal of FKKs are the nude girls.
Hessen Bub
07-18-10, 17:28
Himena is her name. You find quite a lot of reports about her on German boards. About 15 months ago I found her service so and so.
HB
Himena is her name. You find quite a lot of reports about her on German boards. About 15 months ago I found her service so and so.
HB
I agree with HB. She looks nice, but I found her services not memorable.
....... My best session of the night was with this petite 21 yrs old Hungarian/Romanian brunette who goes by the name of Jimena (sp?). ................... In the room, this is one wild chick. It could be all those RedBulls mixed with alcohol. ..........
Nice report. Thank you.
Is there Alcohol for sale at Mainhattan?
Hessen Bub
07-19-10, 17:47
Nice report. Thank you.
Is there Alcohol for sale at Mainhattan?
Yes. Beer is free - that mean Pils and Weizen.
HB
Nice report. Thank you.
Is there Alcohol for sale at Mainhattan?
Vitrea,
You're welcome. As HB has already answered this question, the only thing i would add is that all the beer is from the tap. No bottled beers available.
Himena is her name. You find quite a lot of reports about her on German boards. About 15 months ago I found her service so and so.
HB
Thanks for the correction on the spelling of her name. I think that the difference in our respective experience can be referred to as YMMV. The economics have also changed a great deal in the last 15 months. Essentially fewer paying customers for more girls. So those girls who are "so-so" service wise will have to improve their service to attract and retain new clients.
Hessen Bub
07-20-10, 18:05
As HB has already answered this question, the only thing i would add is that all the beer is from the tap. No bottled beers available.
They do have Becks Gold in bottles - you have to pay for it, same system as at World. And yes, Pils and Weizen are on tap, fortunately. And free.
HB
Basketcase
07-21-10, 00:08
Just out is a new combo-card with 10 visits to Mainhattan or World for 499 EUR.
Bit higher than the EUR 475 for 10 visits to World (I think I'm right on that price?), but I guess it's a way of trying Mainhattan more cheaply, and if it sucks, you can use the rest up at World. Worth a thought.
Yes, 475e is right for the 10 visit Gold VIP card for World.
The dual purpose visit FKK Mainhatten and FKK World card is called FKK2 (FKK squared). I did not check if the card allowed visit to both clubs in same day on same entry single ticket or if you had to use up two fo the tickets to do that.
Basketcase
07-21-10, 00:16
Thanks for the correction on the spelling of her name. I think that the difference in our respective experience can be referred to as YMMV. The economics have also changed a great deal in the last 15 months. Essentially fewer paying customers for more girls. So those girls who are "so-so" service wise will have to improve their service to attract and retain new clients.
I find Himena (hu) incredibly giving of her time. I spent one time on a party night over 2 hours socialising with her before going to the room for a 100e session since I COB finished on her. Pretty girl and she loves to dance (especially on the podiums at World) and really gets into it when you dance with her too. I take her for a few twirls on the World bar area near the podiums.
Still no reports on FKK Sharks. I still have some time till my fall trip, but the club has been open for some time now. From the pics on the web sites I think I will like FKK Sharks over Mainhatten. I had been a long time visitor to Oase, but based on recent reports, but the way the overall condition of the club is going down hill, I am not sure if I will visit Oase again.
Thanks Vitrea.
I'll try to post on Palace and Oase as well.
FKKnomad
Persian Fellow
07-22-10, 06:41
Hi all,
Could anyone tell me which one is better?
Zeus or DeJavu
www.fkk-zeus.de or www.saunaclub-dejavu.de
Thanks in advance,
Fellow
www.fkk-zeus.de
I was at Zeus several years ago, not sure if the quality of the girls will be the same but the club wasn't one where you could spend more than 6 hours at a time. No food, you have to pay for every drink. The layout of the club has lots of hallways and not a whole lot of large spaces to lounge in so as to watch the girls.
On the plus side there were several cute girls, the rates were cheap and they did the bbbj on the couch before heading off to the room. You payed at the end back then, the girl wrote the amount of time you spent with her and her name on a wrist card.
For example from Hbf take U4 line(Direction: Frankfurt (Main) Enkheim) to Bornheim Mitte stop. Then take Tram 12 (Direction: Frankfurt (Main) Hugo-Junkers-Straße/Schleife) to Daimlerstrasse stop. Walk about 300m down Daimlerstrasse to Schielestrasse 45. Simples
In fact, normally you can just take Tram 11 or Tram 12 from the centre of town in an easterly direction. (Note, though, that this summer line 11 is temporarily redirected for road repairs.) It takes more time, but may be easier for an FFM-newcomer.
Psr 24/7 2010
I made my first visit to PSR today and I can say that we did not match. The club is nice, the sauna facilities are top notch. The food is in a league of its own, it's fantastic. The staff is working their butts of to keep the place spotless. But.
But the place is in my opinion missing the sex-vibe. After two hours in Samya without sex I get horny wether I want it or not. The girls, the dancing, the trade makes it a sexy place.
PSR is more of a gentlemens club with women present. I guess its a perfect place to go a bunch of guys and hang out eat, swim, play pool and maybe have sex if someone nice drops by, But it did not fit me, a single traveller only in it for the sex.
But who am I to complain. If Sweden just had one PSR I would hang out there every weekend, but we don't, we just have stupid laws.
The line-up in PSR is not as good as in Samya or Living Room. I have a taste for young beatiful spinners. I found some to match my taste, and I went with one of them. Nely, 24 year old girl from Cologne, She is of persian decent, but is born and raised in Cologne. A very nice and social girl. We had a long nice chat on the sofa upstairs before we went to a room (the rooms in PSR are small and simple). In the the room we had an OK session, but it was missing something. The spark I guess.
The talk before and after sex was very GFE, but the sex itself was a bit "standard". But Nely is very beautiful and just to watch her fucking me in cow-girl was worth the 50E.
Nely has formerly worked in Samya and Living Room.
After sex it was time for food. I had a superb steak, with croquettes, pepper-sauce and fresh vegetables. When I ordered coffea after dinner I spotted a 10, a blond thin model-girl in a blck dress, that I really would have liked to session with. But when she was free I was with out steam. And when I got my steam back she was long gone. And I guess with the competition that she had at PSR that night she did not spend many minutes outside the room.
After reading two more chapters in "The dice-player" by Luke Rhineheart I left PSR with the feeling: "Did that. Done that. Not doing it tomorrow! "
T
Julia (Romania), Pronounced "Yulia", is a cute, petite brunette that loves to dance. She likes to move her hips to latino rhythms and on the day I saw her, wore a arabic style metallic waist band like the ones that belly dancers wear. She can move her hips like Shakira which was charming. The pickings were slim so I took her to the room. In the room, she jumped on the bed and the first thing she did was to take the condom out and proceeded to cover me. I calmly told her to please take it off because i like to start with a BBBJ. She acted shocked and said that BBBJ are not allowed in Mainhattan. Really my dear? I asked her how come I got several so far and no one mentioned it. She said that they are not supposed to do it and if the management finds it, they will get fired. This is getting funnier by the second. Now, "how will the management find out", I humor myself. She proceed to give me this BS story about hoe the maids check the trash bins etc. At this point, I stopped listening, pulled the cover (trashed it), grabbed the towel and calmly asked to go speak to the management. She agreed, which surprised me a bit as she is about to be caught with a blatant lie.
Once we walked down to the bar level, she casually turned left and walked away. I just let it go and chose not to complain to the management. Since I did not pay her anything, I did not loose anything except for 10 minutes of my time. I also gave her a bit of benefit of doubt that it may be a case of YMMV and she did not know how to handle it.
So, the whole point o this report is this: If you plan on taking her to the room check with her first if she will do BBBJ (if that is your thing)
Perfect example of how to handle a situation that isn't going the way it should. Just stop everything before you get too far along and have management sort it out. If there are guys coming in, the last thing they want to do is have a pissed off customer being forced to hand over a 50 that wasn't earned in front of guests.
Hb
Surely you jest?
Quite honestly, I enjoy having a bath robe, in inclement weather, I can go outside, enjoy the fresh air and nature, have a smoke, and be comfortable,. Whilst watching others in their towel, with perhaps a a towel on their shoulders, trying to stay warm. In addition, the robes have pockets, to hold cigarettes, lighter, cell phone, vibrators and other such entertainments.
Another bath robe bonus is that instead of laying a towel down on the bed, the reverse side of the bath robe can be used, and thus double your hygene! Of course, you may wish to ask for a new, nice warm robe after using your first bath robe as a hygenic barrier at Oase. Better to be safe than sorry.
TMK. Bath robes are not offered, but must be requested by knowledgable insiders. There is no extra charge.
Furthermore, some robes feature the club name/logo on the robes, which always make a nice souvenier or holiday gift for a friend. (just kidding on that bit.).
Regards,
Strato
No idea. Bathrobes are for pussies and noobies..
HB
Hessen Bub
07-31-10, 11:24
Hb
Surely you jest?
Quite honestly, I enjoy having a bath robe, in inclement weather, I can go outside, enjoy the fresh air and nature, have a smoke, and be comfortable,. Whilst watching others in their towel, with perhaps a a towel on their shoulders, trying to stay warm. In addition, the robes have pockets, to hold cigarettes, lighter, cell phone, vibrators and other such entertainments.
Positive. "Hessen Dress" rulez. ;)
HB
Okay, I will admit that while this report is technically about "other FKK Clubs", it is not about one in Germany. Yesterday I went to YinYang club just across the border in Roermond, Netherlands. The website is http://www.yinyang.nl/en/
All kidding aside, it was one of, if not the best FKK visits I have had in a LONG time. There were about 30 gals there, and it is not a big club. Of the 30, I found only a handful that were "out of limits" in terms of looks or size. It was a great mix of gals in their 20's with a couple of ladies in the early 30's range, but very appealing. They do wear bikinis or thongs, but I have to admit that I prefer this as I didn't see one girl with a towel wrapped around her.
I wound up doing 2 different German gals, which is something I rarely find at the FKK's I have been to in Germany. One was a young lass, couldn't be more than 20, (I will admit I don't know the legal age limit to work in an FKK) she told me she had worked less than a month and this was her first club. About 5'7", very shapely, dark hair, blue eyes, an ass to die for and breasts that only come on pre-motherhood gals, or after surgery. This gal had neither. While not exactly a GFE, she really enjoyed the "toys" I brought. Said it was her first experience with vibrators, and I believe her. Her lips were so soft, and the DT so good, I almost cost my self an extra for the CIM/COF charge. I finished staring at that magnificent ass as I "walked the dog home".
She told me she only had about a month left before, "moving to Berlin to start a new life", I wish her well and feel sorry for the man/men that fall under her spell.
The second gal was an experienced German gal that told me she worked at a small club in Germany I had never heard of that closed down. A real pro, that I noticed had a lot of customers, all of which walked away with a smile. I would also be in that group. She has blond hair, long shapely legs, and an angular face. Her oral skills only come from a lot of practice, and someone who enjoys what she does, and she obviously has both. I am sorry I don't remember name, but she only works Mon-Thurs.
The facilities are first rate, and the restaurant had a little twist. It closes for a few hours in the afternoon, and then reopens for dinner. The twist is you have to cook your own entree, the grill is hot and the raw meat in a buffet table, you can choose and cook what ever you wish. The entry fee covers beer as well as the normal drinks.
I will be returning to this place for sure, I was really impressed with both the line up and the facility. Entry is 50E, and 30 min sessions are 50, with the hour a 75E charge from all but one girl I talked with. Extras run 25-50 depending on the girl, but both I had wanted 25 for extras, except anal which was 50E.
I understand the Roermond train station is about a 8-10 E ride away for those who choose public transport. Almost all of the gals speak English as well, except for one I really wanted to session with. She either really didn't speak English, or pretended not to so that I would not pursue a session with her....who knows.
If you are in the LR area, this place is about 40K from Kaarst, according to my GPS. Have a great time!
Sir,
I decided last night, having recently returned from an FKK expedition that on my next expedition I would try Yin Yang, subject to some positive feedback from others.
Straight away I stumble accross your helpfull report.
I shall visit this establishment on my next expedition, subject to no objections from my gentleman travelling companion, The Elephant Man who will be accompanying me on what will be only his second FKK expedition.
Thanks again.
Z
Ps,
Probably most of you know this already but I have just been on their website and they give free entrance on ones birthday.
Z
Ps,
Probably most of you know this already but I have just been on their website and they give free entrance on ones birthday.
Z
I believe Bernds does the same thing:
"Geburtstags-Kinder" haben an ihrem Ehrentag freien Eintritt.
das 5 element: i will try to do as detailed a review as possible. my windows of opportunity to post are narrow and i may have to break it up into several posts.
day: monday. two for one special. i had an offer from another monger on the forum to drive to eichenzell from fra for company and to use the two for one offer but i could not hook up for various reasons. i showed up late afternoon and the lady at the front desk asked me if i wanted to wait a few minutes and if another single would show up so she could let us both in. it does not get anymore friendly than that. i passed but you can do that. btw, i met a guy inside who told me that he only comes on mondays, always comes by himself but always waits for another single. he said he usually gets one n 5-10 minutes but one day he had to wait 1 hour.
time: noon to midnight.
location: this has been posted previously with several excellent directions, which are accurate. all i would add is that if you use gps, it is easier. i went there twice. used two different gps systems and both nailed it perfectly. (unlike for world but that is a different story). it takes exactly 1 hr from downtown fra or 55 minutes from the airport. there are speed limits on parts of the hwy where there is construction.
parking: fewer spots than palace or world but more than mainhattan. you may have to park on the street, which does not seem to be a problem.
entry: 60 euro.
facilities: the safes for your wallets are right past the front desk. towels are next to the front desk. door to the left leads you to lockers and door past the lockers leads you to the bar. the showers are very nice but they do not have extra towels by the lockers. you need to go back to the front get them which is a bit inconvenient. mouthwash, body lotion, brushes and even hairspray. the showers are nice and hot with very good water pressure. easily the best facilities among all 10 or so fkks i have been to (not been to sharks).
note: i went twice in two weeks and they changed the towel system now. they give you a robe or a large towel plus three extra towels. but if you need more than that it is 1 euro extra per towel. i think it is a good system.
bar: they have a full bar. beer and soft drinks are included but you have to pay for hard liquor like vodka, tequila or rum. the bartender is super friendly and also doubles as dj, similar to how they had it at world. very nice bar, reasonably stocked and efficient service. very good espresso and the waiter is friendly. he remembered what i was drinking and kept my glasses full without asking.
food: this is one of the best parts of this place. other seniors rave about the made to order food through out the business hours and it is excellent. the chef is so good and so friendly it is unbelievable. i ordered pizza for snack and it was made fresh. i asked for if they had dried chili pepper. the chef had dried chili which he uses for other dishes. he thought that the chunks may be too big so he finely chopped them with a knife and further crushed them with the flat of the blade. i was blown away. i can go on and on about the food and facilities but i know that may be seen as digression. those alone are clearly worth the drive.
sauna: the finnish sauna and the steam room are excellent. the hot tub is hot.
pool: it is small indoor pool with a jet on one end, so you could swim stationary laps. i did not get in.
kino: it is on the ground floor. the projection and the picture quality are excellent and the room is dark.
rooms: fantastic rooms. nice large rooms and all of them are on the second floor (one floor above ground)
ambiance: the overall feel is classy, cozy and intimate. highly recommend. a must for fkk connoisseurs.
Nille Copenhagen
08-09-10, 11:59
How was the line-up on a Monday.
Numbers of girls and their looks and services?
Basketcase,
What is this Living Room?
Basketcase,
What is this Living Room?
Yes good question I also would like to know "What is Living Room (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2593)"
Basketcase,
What is this Living Room?
Living room is in Kraast, Northwest Germany and it has it's own thread. Not bad the last time I was there.
How was the line-up on a Monday.
Numbers of girls and their looks and services?
Details coming up my friend. I was not planning on writing about the club and not write about the girls. :-)
Hessen Bub
08-10-10, 09:34
They give you a robe or a large towel plus three extra towels. But if you need more than that it is 1 euro extra per towel. I think it is a good system.
Fuck them! They do charge 60 EUR and then towels are not included? This is (except for alcohol) an all-in offer! They are perverting the idea of a fkk-club. They should get rid of the "3 beers are free"-rule instead.
HB
Fuck them! They do charge 60 EUR and then towels are not included? This is (except for alcohol) an all-in offer! They are perverting the idea of a fkk-club. They should get rid of the "3 beers are free"-rule instead.
HB
Absofuckinglutely right, HB! Go get em!!! The head of the management that would endorse paying 1E extra for a towel --I don't care if it's my 10th towel in 2 hours!!-- is an echt Kluegscheisser! Right, HB?
O
Angus Magee
08-10-10, 18:02
Absofuckinglutely right, HB! Go get em!!! The head of the management that would endorse paying 1E extra for a towel --I don't care if it's my 10th towel in 2 hours!!-- is an echt Kluegscheisser! Right, HB?
O
I have to agree. Old Angus will (reluctantly) agree with all manner of pay hikes if it comes to pass. But charging extra for towels is an outrage of mammoth proportions. Truth be told, the only club I have been to that actually has towels in the abundance required for a comfortable visit is Artemis. My experience at Oase was that I several times spent time searching for a fresh towel before having to head to the desk and grab one from under the nose of the cashier scowl.
What next-a cleaning charge upon exit for my sandals? This might even merit a blog post;)
AM
Hessen Bub
08-10-10, 21:38
Palace, World, Artemis, Paradise, GoldenTime, VillaVertigo, LivingRoom - all these clubs have as many towels as you need.
What's next? They save on shower gel and give you one package? Or the showers are operated with 1 EUR coins? It's an all-in offer.
HB
Palace, World, Artemis, Paradise, GoldenTime, VillaVertigo, LivingRoom - all these clubs have as many towels as you need.
What's next? They save on shower gel and give you one package? Or the showers are operated with 1 EUR coins? It's an all-in offer.
HB
I have no problem with a low volume high quality club like 5th Element charging for extra towels beyond the first three. Their facilities are top notch, almost like a spa in a 5 star hotel. I was there on two different days and they had less than 10 guys one day and 20 guys on a two for one day. It is expensive to run an operation like that with small numbers.
The above places you mention are high volume and the facilities are sub par. for example, some of the the towels and robes at palace are kind of worn out. I just reported how bad the room cleaning service was at world.
-V
Hessen Bub
08-10-10, 22:40
Location location location. Fulda is in the outback. Not my problem. Weird business model they try to implement. They had 2(!) fuckable girls out of 10 (!) at my last visit: Ella/Ariana and Elisa.
Even the girls do only get 5 free towels. The facilities are not nicer than VV or Paradise or Sakura. And yes, they have made to order front cooking, but food qualkty was so so.
HB
I have no problem with a low volume high quality club like 5th Element charging for extra towels beyond the first three. Their facilities are top notch, almost like a spa in a 5 star hotel. I was there on two different days and they had less than 10 guys one day and 20 guys on a two for one day. It is expensive to run an operation like that with small numbers.
The above places you mention are high volume and the facilities are sub par. for example, some of the the towels and robes at palace are kind of worn out. I just reported how bad the room cleaning service was at world.
-V
With all due respect, you are missing the point, perhaps? The point is: you pay 60E to enter. That is a pretty hefty sum of cash. I know guys who earn that as a daily wage for multi-hours of hard work. Then you have to pay extra for towels? Wtf? No way! As AM says: am outrage! If they want more men to come and frequent the place, this is not the right strategy, imho...und ubrigens: I don't go there to eat the food...:)
O
They had 2(!) fuckable girls out of 10 (!) at my last visit: Ella/Ariana and Elisa.
HB
Both Romanian and x-World?
Hessen Bub
08-10-10, 22:47
Ella/Ariana yes, Elisa no. She's a 24 year old 182cm slim ex volleyball pro. ;)
HB
Basketcase
08-10-10, 23:59
Basketcase,
What is this Living Room?
It is a sauna club in Kaarst to the west of Dusseldorf. Recommended for shorter visits as it is not a large space where you can spend all day and night but it is packed with hookers considering the tiny space there.
Basketcase
08-11-10, 00:01
Fuck them! They do charge 60 EUR and then towels are not included? This is (except for alcohol) an all-in offer! They are perverting the idea of a fkk-club. They should get rid of the "3 beers are free"-rule instead.
Fuck that. That is shite.
I do not want to pay for my towels when I have already paid 60 euro for entritt.
Das 5 Element may have great food cooked to order in front of you but having to pay for towel use each time is inconvenient and makes you feel that you are paying twice.
The attraction of Das 5 Element is diminishing.
Towels: I did not think that the towel issue would bring out such passion. They do wrap the robe and first three towels in a red bow tie though :-) I do see your point and concede the debate.
Girls: Nillie Copenhagen, I was going to do a detailed report on the girls but Hessen Bub stole my thunder with his usual one liner. See below.
Completely agree that there are only two girls worth doing (fuckable sounds so dirty) :-)
Ella: She is a stunner and I was in love. She has beautiful body, face and smile. She is smart and articulate and loves prolonged DFKs. I had four sessions with her including three one hour sessions and CIM. It was better than any porn video I ever saw.
Elisa: She is beautiful as well. I did not realize that she was ex volleyball pro. Makes sense. She was my number two choice both in looks and performance. It was a bit mechanical and she was taller than me.
There was another cute dirty blonde. Forgot her name but she described herself as half German (mother) and Romanian (Father). I did not go with her because she was upfront about not kissing.
It is an unusual business model with all the girls staying on site with full board, I believe. Currently they have 14 girls.
The Michael O'Leary School of Management strikes again!
Ella/Ariana yes, Elisa no. She's a 24 year old 182cm slim ex volleyball pro. ;)
HB
She can play with my balls anytime.
They do wrap the robe and first three towels in a red bow tie.Well, for fuck's sake, that's completely different. Why didn't you say so in the first place? LOL.
Use the robe as the fourth towel and wrap the red ribbon around your Johnson.
Hessen Bub
08-11-10, 16:40
Use the robe as the fourth towel and wrap the red ribbon around your Johnson.
So how did you like 5E? Line-up must have been pretty poor except for Ella and Elisa - they should have been there, I assume.
HB
Kristoffer
08-11-10, 20:33
An afternoon visit.
My first time at this place.
I got there around 16:30 there was 3 guys and maybe 5 or 6 girls present.
A small a cozy place, I took a trip around and saw 2 girls I'd like to play with.
I went with Crissy a 23 year old Bulgarian girl.
Really nice tits, you could still see some of her former puffiness on her nipples mmmmm.
To the sex, she got me of the first time by blowing me, I did with rubber was possible without.
I normally never get of that way, so a star for her. I extended for another session I had to try her pussy.
We had a nice time in different positions with me finishing in doggy while watching her face in the mirror. If I had a chance I would not mind to repeat with her.
After that I waited a bit but could not see the other girl that I fancied so I left.
Damages entrés 50€ and then 50€+50€ to Crissy.
So how did you like 5E? Line-up must have been pretty poor except for Ella and Elisa - they should have been there, I assume.
HB
Pretty poor but they still had a few worth a go. Had tons of food to make up for oases quality, tried selling my remaining towels but had no takers.
This past weekend I had the chance to visit FKK Babylon in Hamburg. First, the good. This place is immaculate, very nice setup with large rooms, great food, two huge bar areas with any drink you could imagine. They also have a Kino with 3 Large King size beds. I took a nap while I was there
The Bad. I came here to see the beautiful German girls that Hamburg is so famous for. What a dissapointment! There were 4 only four girls in the entire place. One from Turkey, One from Iran, One from Trinadad & one from Brazil. Not that I don't like darker skin tones but I actually came to see the beautiful German girls that I hear so much about. Secondly, there girls were very agressive and are all over you the moment you step in. If you reject them, they have a very bad attitude towards you.
Entrance was 65 euro and 50 a pop. I sessioned with the brazilian as was not impressed. Left this place and directly to Atmos.
Ahh Heaven.
Nille Copenhagen
08-23-10, 08:42
This past weekend I had the chance to visit FKK Babylon in Hamburg. First, the good. This place is immaculate, very nice setup with large rooms, great food, two huge bar areas with any drink you could imagine. They also have a Kino with 3 Large King size beds. I took a nap while I was there
The Bad. I came here to see the beautiful German girls that Hamburg is so famous for. What a dissapointment! There were 4 only four girls in the entire place. One from Turkey, One from Iran, One from Trinadad & one from Brazil. Not that I don't like darker skin tones but I actually came to see the beautiful German girls that I hear so much about. Secondly, there girls were very agressive and are all over you the moment you step in. If you reject them, they have a very bad towards you.
Entrance was 65 euro and 50 a pop. I sessioned with the brazilian as was not impressed. Left this place and directly to Atmos.
Ahh Heaven.I was there on Thursday, about 15 girls in total, 4-5 nice german girls, Not so many guest.
I loved the brand new kino, and I did fuck in the Kino beds.
Price 50€ +20€ owo
I didn't see any bad attitude from the girls, I'm able to speak some German so it might had help.
The place is big and new so not so many guest and girls, I hope maybe in 6 or 12 months is getting better, but for now I wouldn't go agian.
Then I reather go to Atmos or Artemis
Nille
Hessen Bub
08-23-10, 09:50
Entrance was 65 euro and 50 a pop.
The 50 EUR session does not include BBBJ, right?
HB
Nille Copenhagen
08-23-10, 12:13
The 50 EUR session does not include BBBJ, right?
HBNope, BBBJ is 20€ extra so you'll end up with 70€ for ½H, expensive!
Then Artemis or NRW or Hessen club are better and cheaper.
Hessen Bub
08-23-10, 17:39
That's why I asked. I heard about the 70 EUR, which ist 20 EUR above Hessen or NRW standard and even 10 EUR above ARTEMIS!!! And this with a line up of 5 girls.
HB
Nille Copenhagen
08-24-10, 01:46
That's why I asked. I heard about the 70 EUR, which ist 20 EUR above Hessen or NRW standard and even 10 EUR above ARTEMIS!!! And this with a line up of 5 girls.
HBHamburg is not a particular turist magnet.
I don't know why Hamburg is more expensive and the service is not better for that reason.
I would not go to HH for sex anymore.
This was my 4th visit to a FKK in the Frankfurt area in 4 days.
I arrived on a Tuesday around 11am and paid my Euro 65 entry fee. They give you a Euro 10 discount card for your next visit. Staff were very friendly.
This place is very new and has only recently opened which is great. There are still a few minor items they are installing and finishing but generally this is not an issue.
First up to the lockers and showers. Lockers were of the usual standard and proceedure expected, i.e. one for the valubles (in view of reception) and the other for one's clothes. Into the showes and they are just great. There is that clean, new feeling, pump pack soap and lots of hot water. All good.
Next, I had a good look around. Kino is upstairs. Rather than the 'traditional' seating, there are around 8, podiums I would call them, for one to relax on and watch the film. Or get laid on.
On the ground level are 2 saunas, one traditional, the other called Krautsauna (that isn't correct I know) which is a Sauna with exotic herbs and delicious smells. Also a Steam Room and outdoor Whirlpool, although it is undercover.
Plenty of rooms and of course everything is new and very clean. Outside, there is a pool and bar. It is a small area but perfectly acceptable considering how close to the city one is. Unfortuneately, the establishment is close to a road used by trucks so there is a little noise. But the biggest issue about being outside is the unit block next door. Whilst there is a privacy screen and timber lattice work amd also some trees, the residents of the top floor or maybe top 2 (and anyone on the roof), has a good view of the proceedings happening in the garden and whirlpool. Just be careful! One of the girls told me she had already been photographed by a voyeur from next door (now - I can't really blame him, especially if a FKK pops up next door and there suddenly are all of these gorgeous naked women around!). She said she had seen herself on some website because of these photos. Be sure to wear your sunnies! And if getting a blowjob outside, put a towel over your face!
I am planning my sex trip to Germany for late October, and would like to check out FKK Sharks, facilities look great! No reports though makes me skeptical. Has anyone heard anything on this club?
Basketcase
08-25-10, 02:06
I am planning my sex trip to Germany for late October, and would like to check out FKK Sharks, facilities look great! No reports though makes me skeptical. Has anyone heard anything on this club?
DFWdude,
If you search the Other FKK forum you will find some reports on Sharks. I believe there is even one from me.
Between the famous Frankfurt and the well known Hanau is Maintal, which has (at least) 2 (rather small, but less expensive) FKK clubs. Anyone been to any of them?
DFWdude,
If you search the Other FKK forum you will find some reports on Sharks. I believe there is even one from me.I've been very remiss not submitting my report about Sharks in Darmstadt. I was there in the late spring.
First of all, it's not that easy to find. The address, Otto-Röhm-Straße 72, Darmstadt, is easy to find on a map, but, you have to enter a driveway to a car dealer and go all the way to the back of the driveway. The FKK is on your right. Do the satellite view on Google Maps and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's walkable from the train station, but, it's at least a mile.
The prices were standard for FKKs. The facility was impeccable and elegant. I got there pretty late after a dinner party, so I wasn't expecting to have my world rocked. The locker room & shower was large and very clean and I got into the uniform and went inside. The facility was huge with a very high ceiling. Downstairs was a large bar, segregated dining area, lots of sofas and chairs, and several session rooms. Up on the mezzanine was a spa, pool, several fantasy rooms, and another lounge area.
I had two sessions. The first was with a 20-something Ukrainian blond. She had sex like a 20-year old. Very rushed BJ with way too much teeth. She hopped on top and humped away for a few minutes and that was that.
My second session was much better. I saw a 30-something absolutely perfectly proportioned tall blond (bolt-ons, but that was OK at that time of night). The sex was much more experienced and mature. Her English was very good. We went to one of the rooms and had a great session. Lots of DFK, a long a sensuous BBBJ, 69 that lasted forever, and two positions.
I was spent after that, but will definitely be back.
Hello, excuse me for my english not very perfectI'm italian
I'have been to sharks last month at beginning of August. The club is at darmstadt. I'm been walking from darmstadt hbf 30 minutes. Than I been to club. I stay 12 to closed 04. So much time inside club. For come back there is taxi 10 euro to darmstadt hbf or walking. I walking I safe my money
The club is in the industrial area. The entry is 50 euro. The girl 50 euro also.
It's a big factory trasform in fkk
The club is big with 2 jacuzzi in the top(need to take upstairs), a hot swimming pool. And it's good. Usually swimmig pool is little bit cold in the fkk. 2 sauna., 1 big bar and the little place for take and eata food., outdoor facilities is not big like world or oase. There 1 more jacuzzi. 5 or 6 room and many bed, sunbed. For sitting and take sun.
Food is not bad. In the morning usually things. Bread, nutella, jam. Than in the afternoon in the outdoor the fresh steak and pork.
In the evening inside there is also some food like rise and cold pasta.
When I come there, where is only 3 girl and me. After few hour come some customers. And some girls. In the all day there is in total 16 girl. Not very much
The line up is very low. Not good. There is some sud america girl not very nice and friendly. Some romania so and so. Some bulgaria not good attitude. 2 Polish, 2 Hungarian.
I've been with 2 girl. 1 from romania. Name Andrea. Is blonde air very funny and nice attitude. The talk a little bit outside with her and his 2 friend. We kiss little bit than we go to the room.
In the room give me a fantastic BJ, a nice kiss, and only superficial DATY. We session was good untill last 5 minutes when she told me that she must go to toilette. Mah. So I finish but the session it's very perfect untill 25 minutes))
The second was anja from poland. Is blonde. I wrong choise. I must choise her friend no nice like her but more friendly. I wrong))
We arrive and she take a little shover. After 3 minutes she came. She give me a perfect BJ. I need come soon. So I stop her. Than the kiss but I not like how she kiss me. Than we have a session.
I've been with 2 girl. 1 from romania. Name Andrea. Is blonde air very funny and nice attitude. The talk a little bit outside with her and his 2 friend. We kiss little bit than we go to the room.
In the room give me a fantastic BJ, a nice kiss, and only superficial DATY. We session was good untill last 5 minutes when she told me that she must go to toilette. Mah. So I finish but the session it's very perfect untill 25 minutes))
The second was anja from poland. Is blonde. I wrong choise. I must choise her friend no nice like her but more friendly. I wrong))
We arrive and she take a little shover. After 3 minutes she came. She give me a perfect BJ. I need come soon. So I stop her. Than the kiss but I not like how she kiss me. Than we have a session.
I told her that I put my condom before if I take her condom I come soon. The poland girl she think and she understand that I come soon. So I think was better to take silence with her. So after 10 minutes session she was vey nervous becouse I don't come. So after little bit I come because I'm also very excited for her big boobs. But she begin to give me a bad word in Poland)
So we go down. I give her 50 euro and goodbye.
I wrong to choice the second girl. In general the club is nice but I need ti take some reklam and oase world and palace is too big but the atmosphere is very quite and nice not much noise and not much customer.
In the winter the girl is like 20-25 she told me one girl.
It's more an FKK than a PT, but prices are "reasonable":
40€ to get in.
40€ for each session, no one will look at the time you'll spent with the girl. The Thekenfrau told me that session stops when you come. So this is more the PT's spirit all you can fuck for a fix price but this club does it for each session.
I think this is the first report we have on this unique Bareback club
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1068084&postcount=3368
I think this is the first report we have on this unique Bareback club
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=1068084&postcount=3368And in the last 3 month this club was "hyped", I was there, too!
About 10 girls there, the club is very small, but very nice girls.
Had sessions with Melinda (all public in front of all fucking on a sofa,
Bareback-fucking, fully injection) and Mona (bareback and cum in pussy)
All girls are from Bulgaria!
Link: www.Dolce-vita-raubach.de
The prices: 40 E for entry fee, 2 E each drink, sessions with a girl 40 E,
Including BBBJ, BBfucking.
The girls don't look at the time during the session! That means, you can fuck
A girl more than 30 min., up to 50. For only 40 E!
All girls are from Bulgaria!
Link: www.Dolce-vita-raubach.de
The prices: 40 E for entry fee, 2 E each drink, sessions with a girl 40 E,
Including BBBJ, BBfucking.
The girls don't look at the time during the session! That means, you can fuck
A girl more than 30 min., up to 50. For only 40 E!The girls are not from Bulgaria but from the Romanian region close to the Hungarian border (information collected on German forums)
Dolce Vita is a very homely club - the girls will often be doing housekeeping!!! It tends to be quiet - often only two or three men. The main focus is on a crowded living room where it appears the girls are not allowed to pick up but instead resort to a range of facial and body signals.
The girls are ok looking but no stunners. The biggest drawback is the limited amount of English or German spoken.
The swimming pool is out of action
Nille Copenhagen
09-24-10, 17:25
Have anyone visit this club:
Haus Panthera Saunaclub in Dusseldorf/Ratingen
http://www.hauspanthera.de/index.php
I might go check it out during next week.
Any info is appreciated, thanks
Nille
Hessen Bub
09-25-10, 12:04
Nice club close to Essen. www.fkkacapulco.de Facilities not as top as Palace, Paradise or Artemis, but great value for money.
Entrance is 35 EUR, before 1pm only 25 EUR. Half hour is 40 EUR, CIM 25 EUR extra, anal 50 EUR extra. Clean, rooms are OK, outside facility available, food is crap but you can order from a delivery service if you want. Saunaclub, so girls do wear lingerie, no animation, girls have to sit alone on 2 seater couches so you can approach them easily.
Taylor from Germany has moved from Finca Erotia/PSR to Acapulco. Here's some pictures. Have fun.
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HB
Nice club close to Essen. www.fkkacapulco.de Facilities not as top as Palace, Paradise or Artemis, but great value for money.
Entrance is 35 EUR, before 1pm only 25 EUR. Half hour is 40 EUR, CIM 25 EUR extra, anal 50 EUR extra. Clean, rooms are OK, outside facility available, food is crap but you can order from a delivery service if you want. Saunaclub, so girls do wear lingerie, no animation, girls have to sit alone on 2 seater couches so you can approach them easily.
Taylor from Germany has moved from Finca Erotia/PSR to Acapulco. Here's some pictures. Have fun.
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HB
Place looks really nice. Like the sleeping chairs. How are the girls and the selection?
Hessen Bub
09-25-10, 18:03
Mainly Romanians, but also Latinas, Africans, Germans, Polish, Hungarians. 30 to 50 girls, above average in looks and service. Club does have a good quality management, they do ask about the girl's service and will tell non-performers to look for another club.
HB
Nice club close to Essen. www.fkkacapulco.de Facilities not as top as Palace, Paradise or Artemis, but great value for money.
Entrance is 35 EUR, before 1pm only 25 EUR. Half hour is 40 EUR, CIM 25 EUR extra, anal 50 EUR extra. Clean, rooms are OK, outside facility available, food is crap but you can order from a delivery service if you want. Saunaclub, so girls do wear lingerie, no animation, girls have to sit alone on 2 seater couches so you can approach them easily.
HB
Tsk, tsk Bub.
It makes you go blind (or blond) you know. Anyway, I am glad you like one of my favourite clubs, but you should consider posting here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3025
Its a good chill out venue, lesser facilities but better lineup then PSR. IMHO a couple of pops for 25+40+40 = €105 is better value than a PT.
Have Fun, and remember there is a forum beneath the top 5 entries. ;-)
PL
Hessen Bub
09-26-10, 19:50
Ups. You see, another pro new structure. :D
HB
Nice club close to Essen. www.fkkacapulco.de Facilities not as top as Palace, Paradise or Artemis, but great value for money.
Entrance is 35 EUR, before 1pm only 25 EUR. Half hour is 40 EUR, CIM 25 EUR extra, anal 50 EUR extra. Clean, rooms are OK, outside facility available, food is crap but you can order from a delivery service if you want. Saunaclub, so girls do wear lingerie, no animation, girls have to sit alone on 2 seater couches so you can approach them easily.
Taylor from Germany has moved from Finca Erotia/PSR to Acapulco. Here's some pictures. Have fun.
HBHi HB,
We've an existing Acapulco thread.Is this why you gentlemen are having discussions/thoughts about board reorganization?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3025
Hessen Bub
09-27-10, 09:38
Hi HB,
We've an existing Acapulco thread.Is this why you gentlemen are having discussions/thoughts about board reorganization?
No, I just missed out on that one. My fault.
HB
Basketcase
10-04-10, 00:18
Sunday we went 2 PSR great facility the best I've ever been 2, but the line up didn't match the place food was so nice indoor pool saunas and jacuzzi, didn't have any sessions that day noone clicked as the women varies from average 2 hideous. They were all warm and nice lots of action happening including an old guy banging a girl in the jacuzzi.
Its a shame that a place like that has no talents or very few 2 be more accurate.
Ladies Man69,
Thank you for the Park Sauna Residenz (PSR) on a Sunday trip report. I guess there was no one memorable or notable to mention there since you did not fuck any of them or talk to any of them?
Interesting to note for you that PSR is a fuck club that you went to and not fuck. LOL.
It does seem that the line up was not to standard. I may have to warn the crew to take PSR off our visit list if this is the case.
One good thing is that there was public sex going on in the cinema and as you observed in the jacuzzi. I always remember Yin Yang having a sign that says no fucking in the hot tubs please. LOL.
The German girl that I picked at PSR say she would normally do public sex in the main lounge but since there were perverted men that would come up real close as you fuck she did not want to do it. She said this to me after I saw an old guy be sucked and then fuck a late twenties blond on a couch in the main lounge as we were watching the televison.
Man, I have such horny memories of that German girl. I think she has moved to Villa Vertigo now. I spent two hours with her sucking and fucking and then more sucking and fucking. She kissed me like a long lost boyfriend and then I had to finish my coming in her mouth. Another one for the memory log.
FernandoAlonso
10-08-10, 08:54
Just open but seemed already have closed. Only a few lights on. Gate not open. No bell visible. No cars in the parkinglot. Internetsite under revision.
Fa
Have anyone visit this club:
Haus Panthera Saunaclub in Dusseldorf/Ratingen
http://www.hauspanthera.de/index.php
I might go check it out during next week.
Any info is appreciated, thanks
Nille
See they are occasional gangbangs. http://www.hauspanthera.de/events.html?5195b89f52891dc8143fdf5b04865f1d=d625e25419da8b06d601750e7b045c1c
any info?
Kevin Mart
10-19-10, 22:01
Hello all.
I will be around Dusseldorf area this Friday and would like to visit one of the FKK clubs around. I will hire a car so driving wont be a problem around 1 hour distance. And my main question is which FKK or FKK like club would you recommend me but with the girls walking around nude ?
I was thinking of visiting GT but i understand the girls are not naked. I want to see what will i have before going in to the room.
Can you advise me which of these FKK s (or any other you can advise ? ) i can see girls walking around naked like oase ?
GT
LR
VV
Samya
or even maybe acapulco and any other you may advise
Thanks in advance.
Markthomas1950
10-20-10, 08:08
Hello all.
I will be around Dusseldorf area this Friday and would like to visit one of the FKK clubs around. I will hire a car so driving wont be a problem around 1 hour distance. And my main question is which FKK or FKK like club would you recommend me but with the girls walking around nude ?
I was thinking of visiting GT but i understand the girls are not naked. I want to see what will i have before going in to the room.
Can you advise me which of these FKK s (or any other you can advise ? ) i can see girls walking around naked like oase ?
GT
LR
VV
Samya
or even maybe acapulco and any other you may advise
Thanks in advance.Kevin Mart,
None of the clubs you mention will have girls full nude; maybe semi nude (e.g. topless); but many in full lingerie sets or bikinis.
Nearest club that I can think where the girls are FKK naked is Bernds.
Kevin Mart
10-20-10, 08:49
Kevin Mart,
None of the clubs you mention will have girls full nude; maybe semi nude (e.g. topless); but many in full lingerie sets or bikinis.
Nearest club that I can think where the girls are FKK naked is Bernds.Thanks for the reply Mark,
Would Bernds worth going or should I stick to other clubs VV GT or LR
My intention is to spend couple of hours, at the mean time watching some nice women. Of course I prefer them naked but if I would have much more selection with more beautiful ladies I can take the bikini or lingerie. Which club would you go if you have to choose one?
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