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Lover Boy #2
08-04-05, 08:22
Mitfickzentrale, Krefeld;
I was at the bar of the Planet Happy Garden one afternoon about 1.5 years ago (this is not a current report, but I understand things are about the same now)...and a bunch of guys started talking about this place. We called up and found that they had two sessions per day
Uerdingerstrasse 64
47799 Krefeld
02151-602299
2 sessions per day; Mo-Fr 10-15 o'clock, Mo-So 16-24 o'clock
So we decided to get a change of pace and go get the 1600 start of the party.
This place is about 20 minutes from PHG. It is in a mixed commercial/residential area. You walk down a short alley to the front entrance and get greeted by a guy/bartender at the front entrance. I believe the entry was 100 for as much as you could eat/drink/fuck.
In the beginning, the eating and drinking was the best part. There were three girls present and about 9 guys. I was mildly upset by this factor and the fact that cleanliness did not seem to be the strong suit of some of those present. It is very hard to eat a buffet when the guy seated next to you smells like a turd. I must admit that one of the three girls was mildly attractive, the other two were middle aged and certainly not worth this trip. One of the old ladies tried to suck my penis, and I had to tell her to stop because I needed to save my sperma. I felt like an idiot and certainly hurt her feelings which was not my intent. I could see the way German was spoken, that all of these girls were visitors (Spain and Balkans I think). More guests and more girls did eventually arrive. There were 2 acceptable females total. There were two areas where the action took place, a mat room at the back of the club and "private rooms" to the left as you enter. There was also a woman who came with her husband to slurp some sperm. Although she was older than the professionals, there was something about her that was sexy. She was dressed in spike heels, black stockings and a very nice lingerie set. I decided that I would spend my fluid on her, as she seemed the most interested in a sincere sexual encounter. The details are sordid (too many guys standing around, too many dicks too close and too much sperm in the area making this very unpleasant...especially when a fee had been paid). And the most sordid part is that the husband asks me if it would be OK if I would shoot sperm on her pussy, so he could lick it. Well, this was a bit much for me...and not my scene...at all. However, being a cheap bastard (my favourite English term)...I decided that I would blast two nuts in some type of "normal" situation, or die trying. I became a crazed whoar fucker......mulling around looking for some good pussy in a sea of problems. By the end of the night, I was able to accomplish my task. I had to become extremely agressive, take the girl into a private room and have one of my friends guard the door to finish this job off. It was no fun at all. The funny part is that I could enjoy a gangbang, but there has to be some sort of rules with the shooting sperm and holding dicks near another guy while he is trying to fuck. I also did not like the general hygeine issues in this club.
Believe it or not, I was literally forced to go back to this place, as a guy I was babysitting (business!!) really wanted to check this place out. I gave him all the details, but he really wanted to go. The second visit was a carbon copy of the first.
I have to sort of agree with Peter in that the specific "Partytreff" is a bit too advanced for me...mainly because of too many guys and cleanliness issues. However, I have been to Beverly many times and had far fewer problems. I actually like Beverly very much and there are opportunities there to have good gangbangs and good fucking in a semi-private setting. (as a side bar...I was with a girlfriend from a guy on this board at Beverly one night. She was doing some very nice tongue action on me and was very passionate. Even she got extremely pissed off when a guy started swinging his dick around....right near us....and she works at Beverly!...so I think most people don't like this.)
I would not rec. this place, unless this is your style. It is a very specific thing. There are girls to fuck and this is not a "rip-off" by any means. I looked at two German boards briefly before writing this and it seems that a lot of guys feel the same about too many guys and the not too high quality of the women. If you have not been, I would save your hard earned money and go to a top tier FKK, not far from this place. If you want to get around 6 orgasms for not too much money, this might be a good venue as one price pays for all the activity in this type of setting. I think that should be the over riding factor (because quality would not be).
Does anyone have a current report on the Partytreff near the olde Atlantis?
LB2 - Thanks. well written report which had my stomach turning. It was that sort of thing which one night at Beverley, led me to make monkey noises at the men who were surrounding myself and a woman and were just looking and playing with themselves. I enjoy group sex but can't stand being watched by a load of penises - ok if they want to join in. I began to feel like a zoo exhibit - hence the monkey noises!!
Lover Boy #2
08-05-05, 06:23
It figures that I left out two things from this report;
1. I noticed that three of the girls working here were also working at Freudenbergstrasse 39 Bochum-Hamme FKK. These would be women at the end of their career and not the type of woman you guys would want.
2. In all honesty, and part of "soul pouring", I might add that I am probably more sensitive than most about the wanker situation. When I was 17 years, I was going to school in southern Germany. A classmate and myself were tired of the local scene and we took a road trip to Denmark. We went to a prive club and there were many beautiful women there. This was at a time that the worst disease you could catch would be cured by a few tablets, at least that was what we believed.....so the potential for a great time was there. To make a very long and bad story short, I was with three women who looked great and were happy to be with a 17 year old kid. It was very dark in this club. At one point I looked down and saw a man had been jerking my penus onto the lips of one of the women. Thanks!! I was very upset with this guy. Since that day I have been very aware of who is around me and what they are doing. Some might call this a risk of the job....I call it a gay guy who sneaked into the orgy.
As an update, recent pricing according to someone right nearby is 130 and a 10 discount on Sundays.
CBGBConnisur
08-05-05, 20:46
There was this one really crazy but fuckable blonde I met in Beverly, I was standing in the back checking out the action, and she grabbed me and like a Nazi yelled "Come here!!!". Luckily she's a woman, and I would tolerate this from a lady. I felt kind of special that she made move on me but that feeling went away when I saw two guys lying down who obviously fucked her. She kept grabbing my dick and rubbing it against her navel, and gestured to her girlfriend to a put a condom on my cock, I proceeded to fuck her and did it gently because I assumed a lot of Western European women prefer it this way. She started yelling "Cum!!!" after a few minutes and started grabbing my arms, I eventually came and she pushed away from me and went after someone else. It was the first time I met a European woman that could be as psychotic as those from the US. Still I can't turn away a decent looking woman who wants to fuck.
Beverly does have a night where homos are allowed in, and yes I have a big problem with homosexuals(as well as feminists). I believe fag day at the Beverly is Tuesday. I always thought of Germany as a very homophobic place.
Lover Boy #2
08-06-05, 09:07
For the most part, I have no problem with homosexuals.....as long as they keep their hands and penis to themselves or another who wants/ (agrees) to this type of thing.
The problems occur when these guys get mixed into a crowd where there is no definition of what is going on until it becomes apparent by a major incident (where there is a big argument, fight or worse). For example, if you attend a defined "gay night" at a club, it should be expected that gay guys will be looking for action with others. Then, you get what you deserve. If you are attending a Friday night heterosexual gathering, homosexuals mixed into the crowd cause a lot of problems for those that have no interest. Especially when the agressiveness leads to a grabbed dick (or worse!!). A board member once had a story where he was laying on a bed and suddenly realized that the wet mouth he was enjoying on his dick was that of another man. He had been fucking that same man's wife, so he just got up, terminated all activity and tried to forget what had just happened without bringing violence into the equation. I also heard that at Beverly, transvestites in black leather outfits/hoods have provided many blowjobs to the unsuspecting on heterosexual nights.
On a side note, I once noticed that a Thai ladyboy was working at Atlantis. I was 100% positive and consider myself an expert on this subject. I asked one of the Thai girls working there if I was right. She said that the guy had a sex change, was very beautiful and that no one realized what was going on (?). She also said that I should keep this to myself, as there could be "trouble" (??) I personally observed many guys going with the ladyboy, some of whom I am positive had no knowledge what was going on. It was usually an inexperienced, young US serviceman who got fooled into the exotic look and the great blowjob. What the fuck is this? My opinion is that this "ringer" should not be mixed in with the female population. If someone is looking for this that is one thing....but to trick a guy into getting a blowjob or lubed sex (by surgical pussy or ass) is very, very wrong. I brought this to the attention of two managers at Atlantis. They tried the angle that some guys want this. I told them that some guys were getting what they did not want. I was told an investigation would be conducted (yeah, right!!). This is a very bad policy.
Based upon some posts here, and also an experience tonight I think it’s the right time to reset expectations about Club Beverly.
Beverly is a SWINGER CLUB with a twist. “Swinger club” means that people who enjoy this type of lifestyle gather for both the social experience as for the sexual aspects. The TWIST is that they seem to make sure there are always women willing and available to entertain the single guys.
The women at Beverly are mostly housewives, secretaries, professionals etc. They are not models or professional escorts. Even the “single women” at the small bar have husbands who either work at Beverly or who usually come with them. That said – do not expect a lineup of 18-24 year old models. The age range of most of the “single women” is anywhere from 18-mod 40’s. You do not pay for sex and there is no guarantee you will get sex. But if you don’t it is your own fault – at least on Wednesdays, Friday’s and Saturdays. Other days I don’t know. They swear that none of the women are paid by the club – but I am sure there is some reward system because a couple of them act as if they are.
I was at Beverly this evening and met a young guy from San Francisco who came to Beverly for his first visit. I’ll call him Jim – not his real name. Jim was quite disappointed. We were sitting at the small bar talking and he said to me “I don’t think it is morally right to screw another guy’s wife.” I asked him why he came to Beverly. He said to f**k single women. I tried to explain to him that at the Beverly swinger club “you come to screw other guys wives…”. I tried to explain to him that virtually none of the “single women” come alone. Their husbands are in the club screwing some other guy’s wife. Jim was having a good time with a gorgeous women in her 30’s – a lot older than he was. Later in the night I was in the bar and saw them talking. I recognized her from a prior visit and joined the conversation. I asked her how her husband was and Jim looked surprised. “You’re married" she said "Yes – and my husband is here somewhere ... He’s around somewhere finding other women to play with.” She said her first time at Beverly she had a few drinks and made the rounds in the back alone. Jim was shocked. Jim said to her “this is a nice place to meet people. Do you meet people here and then continue a relationship outside?” I broke in and said said “Jim Beverly is like Las Vegas - what happens at Beverly stays at Beverly.” Our friend added – Her friends have no idea what she does at Beverly. She really would not like to have two-sets of friends – so NO – they do not socialize outside.
Sex at Beverly is not private – at least not 100% private. There are no doors on rooms but you can easily have 1 on 1 sex without a group joining in.
In summary – Beverly is not for everyone. If you don’t like open sex – don’t go. If you are looking for young models – then go to an FKK where you pay by the f**k and by the way – there is a surcharge for extras. If you like the idea of a totally erotic free-for-all where you can meet “other guys wives” and screw the hell out of them – sometimes watch a nice S&M show or a gang-bang then Beverly is for you.
CBGBConnisur
08-07-05, 06:23
I wonder what the outcome of the national election will do to the hobby in Germany. Bavaria is run by a very uptight conservative CDU, Bavaria incidentally is the worst place in Germany for hobbying, if this Angela Merkel( she looks like a big time ball busting bull dyke), gets elected I bet there will be nationwide dragnet on the entire scene in Germany. I recall Sweden made it illegal for a client to purchase sexual services, which completely destroyed the scene over there. I am wondering about Germany, anyhow FKKs and Partytreffs are predominantly found in NRW and Hessen, but I have not seen many outside these two states.
I haven't had much trouble finding women interested in me at the Beverly, but most people consider me to be very good looking(I lost over 70lbs after spending nearly five years in Australia cutting out carbs, lifting weights, I lost about 5 extra pounds in Germany from all the fun I had in the clubs, weighing 195lbs at 6'2") Contrary to the SF guy's experience I have met quite a few single women there. While it is a wild establishment, I don't think this place can compete with a decent FKK. There are an awful lot of ethnic women that go to the Solingen club as well as work there, I love trying to guess their nationalities. Almost always the women I believe to be Hispanic South American or Filipina turn out to Turks or North African. I have heard stories about Partytreff Osnabruck having a lot of very good looking women, as well as something about Dorsten.
Thank you Sorcerer for trying to keep this thread on track. You have done a good job of setting expectations - given the mass of irrelevant postings a few weeks ago. I am writing to back up what you say.
One minor personal opinion -I think the women at Beverly can be as good looking as any in an FKK - but the range is much much wider. If one is lucky at Beverly then one could meet a stunning 18 year old who loves sex, or a very attractive 50 year old who has experience as well as enjoyment (both have been my good fortune)
As for the issue about not having sex with someone who is married... did your friend think that girls in FKKs or bothels do not have partners/husbands?
Anyone who tries to say Beverly is not as good as an FKK is off the point . The point is, as you tried to say, it is different to an FKK, and whether one likes it or not deoends on what one is looking for
CBGBConnisur
08-07-05, 23:53
I have standards of beauty that tend to be off the charts, a woman would have to be extremely attractive or exotic to pique my interest. While I saw attractive women at the Beverly, I don't think I saw one that I would rate a 9 or a perfect 10, then again I have some very stringent standards. I have seen many ladies at various FKKs that I would rate in the 9-10 range(I would give a good number of women in Sydney brothels this grade), the majority of the very attractive women work as barstaff or are there as part of a couple. The SF guy would have been better off picking someone up in a nightclub or bar in Dusseldorf, I find at least for Americans its easy for us to pickup attractive European women. This is especially so with young African and Hispanic American guys. Of course not all Europeans speak English fluently, so there is a language barrier.
I just wasted 80 Euros and a night out. Sunday is party night at Beverly and good if:
1. You are a voyeur and like to watch OTHER people.
2. You are a beautiful lesbian looking for an encounter.
3. You are a couple and want to f**k your own partner in rooms closed to single guys.
I was warned last night buy a guy with a similar Sunday experience but I was sure he had a bad night. I tried and there was almost nothing going on of real interest. For those interested, WED FRI and SAT are guaranteed good nights. All of the rest are hit and mostly miss.
Well, honestly, I didn't waste the whole 80 Euro. The buffet was very good and the bar was open and free as usual.
I'm sure one of my "friends" who reads this forum is laughing herself silly. That's what I get for "cheating on her."
I have standards of beauty that tend to be off the charts, a woman would have to be extremely attractive or exotic to pique my interest. While I saw attractive women at the Beverly, I don't think I saw one that I would rate a 9 or a perfect 10, then again I have some very stringent standards. I have seen many ladies at various FKKs that I would rate in the 9-10 range(I would give a good number of women in Sydney brothels this grade), the majority of the very attractive women work as barstaff or are there as part of a couple. The SF guy would have been better off picking someone up in a nightclub or bar in Dusseldorf, I find at least for Americans its easy for us to pickup attractive European women. This is especially so with young African and Hispanic American guys. Of course not all Europeans speak English fluently, so there is a language barrier.
Where would you recommend going while in Australia?
CBGBConnisur
08-09-05, 04:29
Honestly, the better you look the more likely some couple or woman will pick you up at Beverly or any other European partytreff. Do you guys really think about the woman's personality at an FKK?? The first thing you see is her luscious nude body, she could have the intellect of a dodo bird(most FKK women are about as intelligent as one) and it wouldn't matter. Frankly most FKK women are borderline retards, occasionally you will find one from a highly ostracized ethnic minority that is only there because she faces a lot of discrimination in the normal job market.
Drink 8 glasses of water every day, cut out the empty calories from your diet, workout religiously, you will look and feel better, and you will notice women will look at you differently. Women look at a guy's features too.
"Frankly most FKK women are borderline retards, occasionally you will find one from a highly ostracized ethnic minority that is only there because she faces a lot of discrimination in the normal job market"
I have never read such a bigoted statement on this board. How can you label a whole group of people as retards!!. Reminiscent of the old racist statements that Black Americans were retarded - and just as wrong and unacceptable. If you believe they are retards, what are you doing visiting FKKs and exploiting retarded people - that makes you an abuser.
I respect many of the FKK girls and find them to be intelligent, and sensitive human beings - perhaps because I respect them they do not treat me like a retard (and before I am also labelled a naive retard - I have a good degree, and a high IQ - for what that is worth)
Shiatsu,
Why bother with that turd? he's back in full regalia across the board spreading his message of hate and insult against women and all races except his own.
Ignore!
Just for the record some of the "plastic women" that this guy describes are pretty bad sex partners due to an overwhelming opinion of themselves and a lack of experience with "ordinary men." My worst expereinces are with the type of women he describes.
I tend to favor women who I get to know and develop a nice relationship. And YES - this is possible at Beverly since it is not full of models there to show off their ASSets. I find that ordinary women (and that is NOT an insult) are much better at a sexual relatoinship since they are giving and taking at the same time.
And by the way - most of the women I know stay away from Mr. Hardbodies because these guys are usually into themselves and don't even try to satisfy them.
There is GOOD NEWS in this thread. I won't be running into CB since he will certainly never go to Beverly.
CBGBConnisur
08-09-05, 19:16
I didn't say they were retards, I said they were BORDERLINE retards, in other words most of the women I met in FKKs are so stupid that they are almost retarded. I have met a few women, almost always from Germany's auslander population, who are there only because German society doesn't accept them. Some of them were quite intelligent.
Yes I am into myself, I've become more selfish because it doesn't really pay to help others in this piece of shit world. When you remove attachments you lose the fear of loss.
I didn't say they were retards, I said they were BORDERLINE retards, in other words most of the women I met in FKKs are so stupid that they are almost retarded. I have met a few women, almost always from Germany's auslander population, who are there only because German society doesn't accept them. Some of them were quite intelligent.
Yes I am into myself, I've become more selfish because it doesn't really pay to help others in this piece of shit world. When you remove attachments you lose the fear of loss.
Of course I cannot say for sure, but it would not surprise me if the majority of Russian women that I have met in German FKK's have IQs that would body-slam yours.
Dedalus
CBGBConnisur
08-10-05, 02:29
Still with their high IQs they're stuck having to sell their bodies to ugly turds like you Dedalus and Isseeu.
Still with their high IQs they're stuck having to sell their bodies to ugly turds like you Dedalus and Isseeu.
Or to loudmouth, pencil-necked, blowhard, daft, xenophobic, yahoos like yourself. A fact that your mindless driveling on this board has proven time and time again.
Cheers,
Dedalus
i'm tired of this. i may take some heat from other board members about freedom of speech and your very occasional ability to write something lucid and on-point, but i just don't care any more. i'm guilty of having made fun of you in the past in the faint hope that it might influence your behavior somehow, but of course it doesn't. so now i'm going to try to do something about it.
this forum, to me, is a rare place to arrange to meet people in person who have an outlook on life similar to mine (i have done that, and am much the better person for it), and to monitor discussions with people i will probably never meet, people who are good at exchanging relevant information and interesting stories about the subjects that are of a common interest to myself and the other members.
the rare privilege this forum provides in the above respect is (to me) like people standing around a punchbowl filled with the finest rare 'champagne' of knowledge, being able to drink from it and toast each other with it and admire and enjoy its elegance. you, on the other hand, are like some small, spoiled, self-centered child who wants to continually come running up to dump turds in the punchbowl for some reason or other.
please go away. i don't want you here. i would venture to guess that the majority of board members don't want you here. having said that, i also would venture to guess that you somehow lack the capacity to really understand that. therefore, i am going to try to make you go away. i am pasting in a copy of a report that i have sent to jackson. i have never made a formal request to have a board member removed before. you are the first. i hope i never have to make such a request again. here is the request, which has already been sent:
cbgbconnisur
senior member
reports: 586 "frankly most fkk women are borderline retards. ... still with their high iqs they're stuck having to sell their bodies to ugly turds like you dedalus and isseeu."
jackson: my first formal complaint to you, really. this guy cbgb connisur is all over many boards with essentially the same recurring themes: belittling, taunting, and name-calling other board members, and making degrading sexist, classist, and racist remarks that he applies to groups as small as a couple of people and as large as entire countries. most of his 586 "reports" fall into the categories of flaming or disjointed meandering rants. he consistently riles up other members of the board, and i would guess that he takes pleasure in doing so.
please, please jackson, take a random look at a few of his reports and judge for yourself. this person needs to go.
thank you for your consideration.
whitey2
You say you are "selfish because it doesn't really pay to help others in this piece of shit world"
Well, that is a point of view. However this board is (I thought) supposed to be about sharing for the mutual benefit of everybody. As you don't believe in helping others that would explain why your posts are so unhelpful and why you tell us you are rich, intelligent, good-looking and that other members are turds).
By the way, as for non-attachment - you have misunderstood the meaning - it is supposed to be a compassionate thing, not full of hatred and contempt borne out of a fear of rejection (which is how I understand you to be describing yourself). Your contributions to the board reflect this
As for your bad experiences with other people - has it ever occurred to you that this might be a reflection of your own attitude? An intelligent girl would not react to you in a way which showed her intelligence - working girls quickly assess a client and whether or not he shows any respect to them.
Best wishes
Oh - and just to show I'm not very nice - why is it that a man of your calibre can't spell "connoisseur"?. Presumably the mis-spelling was intentional to show that you were not a connoisseur? (I apologise for writing this last sentence - my reaction to your posts has brought out the worst in me)
Can't Believe this Guy's Bullsh*t,
Coming from an A-hole like you, you should know a good turd when you see one.
smile when you squeeze...
Cbgb - have you ever met Iseeu and Dedalus?. I've met them and can vouch that they are in fact both rather goodlooking (forgive me guys but I'm not after going to a room with you!!) with no resemblance to ugly turds. However I've not had the fortune to meet you - not even on that time that you claimed to be at Beverly (not knowing that I was there on the date you claimed to be there) and made comments which nobody who had actually been there at that time could have made.
Is there no end to your offensive and inaccurate insults? Criticism is one thing - bigotry and gratuitous insults are another. I think that is why other wsg members are moved to reply to you in terms nearly as offensive as yours. Reap what you sow...
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Travelforfun
08-10-05, 16:41
Why can't all of us just ignore CBGB? I've been a regular reader of this wonderful board for a few month's now and i notice that this CBGB dude comes up with some weird remark now and then and the while board gets on talking about it and somehow I feel he sits back on his laptop reading and smiling away to glory over his it.
I think if we just ignore his comments sooner or later he's bound to shut up and layback.
But on a personal note somehow its intriguing and fun to read the counter comments as well :)
CBGBConnisur
08-11-05, 00:23
If we lived in a normal world we wouldn't need partytreffs, FKKs, and prostitutes. Come to think of it although I have enjoyed myself at FKKs in a weird way I wish I never entered one particular establishment on a Saturday afternoon in August 2001. I befriended and became quite attached to a particular FKK woman and after hearing of her untimely death last year, I wished I never met her and sometimes I wish she never existed. The thought of her gone from the world has driven me to the point close to insanity. Some of the sweetest and most wonderful women in the world work in these establishments, they have my sympathy, many of these women have pimps or other handlers that beat, intimidate, and exploit them. In a world this horrible I found someone really wonderful and pure and she happened to be a prostitute, she was one of those unlucky women who wound up on the wrong side of the tracks and I felt sorry for her and I thought I could offer a path away from such a life, in an insane world she was the sanest choice and now she's gone. I don't know what this wonderful woman did in her life to deserve such a fate, the only ladies I met who deserve this are American women.
Lover Boy #2
08-11-05, 05:06
This is really getting out of control. If some poor dog comes here looking for the information on a Partytreff, this entire thread is going to really confuse and depress the guy. This is not what this is for.
I vote that we ask Jackson to eliminate all these posts and get back on track. Or, maybe this can be moved to a "lounge" section where everyone can come to air their feelings? This whole thing is no good now.
Let's all make the request of Jackson - I already have reported the postings to a moderator.
Reluctantly I have also written to Jackson in the steps of Whitey2, Sorcerer, and Lover Boy2. I have concluded that CBGB's ravings are destroying the forum and that he needs to be excluded if we are to keep our freedom to communicate useful information. Perhaps Dedalus, Iseeu and others might add to our requests
I believe it will take Jackson some time to consider (he has other things to do I am sure)
CBGBConnisur
08-11-05, 17:04
You want me to be to fair, the average American, Canadian, Australian, and British woman all have the intellect of dodo birds. All four groups are easily subjugated by mind control and brain washing. I have no idea how I am a racist, as some other posters have accused me of being such. From most of my life I have easily interacted with people of different backgrounds. Some posters have even gotten offended for me simply saying that a lot of European women find black guys attractive.
Dear Dodo bird,
How about we examine your intellect.
You want me to be to fair, the average American, Canadian, Australian, and British woman all have the intellect of dodo birds. All three are easily subjugated by mind control and brain washing.Mr CB, you can't even count beyond three.
What a dodo!
Shiatsu and Cordelia: I apologise for publishing this CBGB dirtlist next to your very RELEVANT post. I wouldn't have done it at this time (or possibly not at all) if I had known at all that you were also about to post. My apologies.
whitey2
CBGBConnisur
08-12-05, 15:40
I always wondered why Australian women are overall very attractive while British women make me want to throw up in disgust. It seems as though British convicts(the ancestors of 85 percent of Australians) were the best looking people in Victorian England, and Australia was some kind of genetic experiment performed by the British government. There is also something different about the demeanor of British versus Australian women, Australian women tend to be happy and in good spirits while British women seem doped and depressed. Everytime I meet a woman in Australia that is in a sour mood or looks unhealthy chances are she is a British or American tourist.
CBGBConnisur
08-12-05, 18:45
Its actually most of the foreigner FKK women I find to be retarded especially the ones from Eastern European former Soviet bloc countries, they seem to confuse the term American with being a race. Most of the German women who work in FKKs, who tend to be a minority, are actually quite bright. The impression I get from the NRW area clubs is that they don't get a lot of foreign visitors, at some clubs I was the first American most women met in their entire lives or careers as FKK girls. I saw one American guy, acted kind of gay, in Beverly, was talking to a really fat German chic, kind of goofy looking. Frankfurt's a different story, since its more international and commercial with lots of foreign visitors, the women there are more accustomed to meeting foreigners and seem a bit more cosmopolitan and therefore colder than the women in the NRW.
Lover Boy #2
08-13-05, 05:29
CBGB,
Before all of this is deleted....I am curious what you are saying, because there seems to be conflict between the first and second posted comments. What does Ausländer mean to you? Which type of Ausländer is the intelligent one?
Charles, as a guy who has had some very interesting dialogue with you, can I ask where you are going with all of this? This is a thread devoted to Partytreff...so let me ask nicely...please post only things relevant to Partytreff.
You have had some intelligent contributions in the past. Why are you doing this?
Thanks,
Rolf
First; "I didn't say they were retards, I said they were BORDERLINE retards, in other words most of the women I met in FKKs are so stupid that they are almost retarded. I have met a few women, almost always from Germany's auslander population, who are there only because German society doesn't accept them. Some of them were quite intelligent".
Then; "Its actually most of the foreigner FKK women I find to be retarded especially the ones from Eastern European former Soviet bloc countries..."
From Shiatsu and Cordelia. Sorry to repost this (with an addendum). We a trying to focus on keeping this thread relevant
1. Beverly
"As you know we spent many happy evenings at Beverly in te last autumn and winter. In the intervening year we have had loads of PMs asking to meet us (or I guess more accurately Cordelia) at Beverly
We have finally booked in our diaries a date to go back at the end of September. We won't give the exact date here in view of the unpleasant nature of recent posts - if anybody is interested in making a party of the evening then PM us and we'll give the date (one night only - hopefully to be followed by more later in the year)
If anybody doesn't know what we are looking forward to then read our posts from late last year
Have fun"
2. Haus Eva
Has anybody by any chance been to this swingerclub in Marburg? Cordelia and I are thinking of going on her day off from World. Thanks
I was not involved in this fight, but watching it from outside I really am liking CBGB more and more. If there are that many people reporting him, I might have to report that I want to keep him.
The personal attacks from all sides are more farcical than anything else.
I would have to say from my experience that there are borderline retards among the German and the foreigners working in clubs. Some might be well over that border, but they just freak me out.
German girls who have an apprenticeship in Cosmetics or Hairdressing are not brain surgeons, and they do represent a lot of the german girls working there.
I have met some worldly wise girls and even a couple of genuinely brilliant girls who do this job, but let's not kid ourselves. Just because a girl is hot and understands us, does not mean she is einstein.
CBGB must be borderline retarded to think that he is more likely to run into hispanic and filipina girls in Germany than Turkish and North African. Look at general immigration patterns in Europe and how can you think that? If you are in Miami chances are they are not Turkish, if you are in Germany, chances are they are not hispanic.
I hope this gets back on track soon, so I can continue to ignore the whole "Partytreff" thread, as my one and only experience in this sort of establishment make me 100000000% sure I will never go again. Cordelian and Shiatsu were great, but everything else about the place sucked, except the buffet, that was OK.
CBGB's rants and raves remind me of Howard Stern, like when he says "Kill All Sharks" in response to shark attack reports.
I like his posts, and I don't get riled up about them. Everyone should leave otu the personal attacks, or not let them effect them.
And CBGB sounds so hot that I hope next time I am at a Party Treff, that he will wave his dick in my face.
Peter
Angela Merkel is not a bull dyke. She is an unfortunately ugly politician who is married but has no kids. She is from East Germany in Mecklenburg Vorpommern ( I Think that is where Templin is). He father was a protestant minister who moved from West Germany to a posting in the East when Angela was a small girl. She is not particularly prudish, and not looking to crack down on prostitution. In Germany there is no one really cracking down on the hobby. If there were some high profile cases of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) or something this might change, but there have been brothels in germany for forever, and the people don't care.
I have been to two FKK's in Bayern (Sylt, and yesterday Colloseum), they are fine. There is plenty of hobbying in the state, the prices are just high and the service levels are lower than what is available in other provinces. Hamburg used to be the epitome of tolerant, but the seervice level and price levels are not good for men there either. The state or federal government have no real effect on the level of prostitution in that state.
CBGBConnisur
08-13-05, 13:06
Peter I didn't say there were more Hispanics and Filipinas in Germany than Turks and North Africans, but they do have a similar appearance to one another, they all look alike to me. Now that you bring it up, they do parallel one another, the former two are a common immigrant group in the USA and the latter are common in Europe, they're all looking to mooch off us Westerners($$$$). There was an article about a British F1 driver and his wife who is French North African, Simone Abdelnour, I couldn't help but notice that she looks very hispanic looking. A lot of Turks have Asiatic features but most are hispanic looking. The girl I met I thought reminded me of a very stuck up Hispanic girl I knew from Connecticut, she told me her dad was German and her mom Turkish, from a photo her mom had a very Southeast Asian look. Turks though are actually the most racist people in Germany, I recall my driver to Babylon last October was a Turk and I told him I lived in New York, and he asked me "Are there lot of Nigger in New York!!!", these were his words not mine. At the same time he complained about being mistreated because of his ethnicity in Germany. Then the Turkish driver asked me "Can I come to America???". I told him that if he said the N word in a big US city, he could probably wind up with a lot of metal nuggets in his body and maybe a few cracked bones and punctured organs. Unfortunately, people as stupid and ignorant as this Turk come into the US each and everyday. A German I met at the train station who traveled to Turkey told me that the Turks in the West are extremely racist towards those from the East who are Kurds, he told me stories of Turkish soldiers beheading Kurds and keeping their heads as trophies, some scary shit.
Am I the only person left who is interested in Partytreffs?. I suspect that everybody has fled this thread and forum for other forums. If there is anybody interested in partytreffs, can I repeat my post of a day or two ago that Cordelia and I will be going back to Bev at the end of Sept and anyone interested injoining up could PM us.
Peter, thanks for the compliment. As I've said many times, the horrors of a forest of waving penises could put off even the most seasoned person.
Shiatsu
CBGBConnisur
08-13-05, 13:27
Actually come to think of it, some FKK girls are amazingly articulate, they speak better English than some Ivy League college students. I recall meeting a group of Cornell University women last fall at the New Yorker hotel in Cologne. They were talking amongst themselves using the terms "Like this is so cool" to describe European architecture. One of them noticed me and smiled but I ignored her. These valley girl types are going to become lawyers and surgeons yet they cannot speak decent English. I have met Jacqueline Kennedy lookalikes in FKKs who are probably going to wind up doing nothing.
Partytreffs are bullshit, you can bring your girlfriend or wife into most FKKs.
Travelforfun
08-13-05, 13:59
Pity I would miss the meeting by a few weeks. I hope to be in Beverly mid October. How is the Beverly scene these days? Anyways, its been ages since anyone posted a first hand report. The little I understand from all the posts looks dont matter as much at Beverly as far as scoring is concerned. Is it also possible that some "fun loving" girl accompanies me after the club closes? Vague question, but its just to keep my poor soul hopeful of some unlikely miracle. I doubt anyone has the strength and resolve to do aything after than club but its always nice to get up seein a girl by your side when you get up rubbin those balls in the morning :).
Checked out the web sites of few FKK's in Dusseldorf area, Labeda, Bluenote seems to have some real nice babes. Anyone been there lately?
Also read about this Partytreff Pegasus in Dusseldorf, seems like they only have Thai girls which I don't think would be value to money as compared to mongering in Thailand itself. :)
Shiatsu, peter buddies please don't scare me with the horror stories of "waving penises at my face". I'm already having nightmares about them and worse I dreamt mine was one of them and the smallest of all. Hahaha ;)
Cheers, lets get some life back to the room.
Sesameking - Sorcerer and (I think) Iseeu have both posted fairly recently about Beverly - you may need to scroll back several pages though. There have also been reports on Pegasus some way back - general view has been that it's fine but nobody ranks it at the top - and it s not a partytreff despite its name
I don't know about taking a girl home from Bev - I think that is very unlikely as all the women (apart from the regular women) are with a man. Perhaps one of the other members who is good at getting freebies might comment?
If you want something that sounds wild there are events around Dusseldorf organised by http://www.gangbangstudio.de - they shoot films. The site is in German and you have to e-mail to book. I have not been but it sounds interesting - not a partytreff but it doesn't fit in under any thread easily
Travelforfun
08-14-05, 07:49
Thanks Shiatsu,
I am a regular reader or your's, peter's and Iseeu's wonderfulr posts. Didn't miss any and so was eager and selfish for a few more.
About taking home a girl from Bev, please dont get me wrong I didn't mean it in a freebie kinda way, its just that I've never been there so have so many ques and fantasies floating in my mind. I'm no Brad Pitt or Ivy League kinds to get a freebie. Anyways, all life I've been a "BUY"sexual . Weather you pay upfront like in a FKK or weather you pay in kind by having a gf still counts as a "BUY"sexual activity as far as im concerned.Yet to fall in love or should i say yet waiting for someone to fall in love with me ;)
The link definetly sounds wild , wats the catch there. I'm ZIPPO in german so a little more explanation please if u dont mind. How much does this adventure cost?
CBGBConnisur
08-14-05, 15:25
They videotape that shit at Gangbang studio, frankly, I HATE PORN, I actually want to choke that fat porno dude Ron Jeremy to death, if I meet him. I guess at 6'2" and 200lbs and after five years of playing rugby I can kill a man easily.
Travelforfun
08-14-05, 16:09
CBGB,
I think you really need to see your shrink soon now.
You seem to have an opinion about anything and everything here. Who cares if you don't like PORN or you hate Ron Jeremy. At least he's good at what he does and probebly makes a good living out of it. I've seen a lot of 6'2" men biting dust after a kick up their balls from a girl, so get that misconception out of your head.
Damn , shaitsu you were right my friend its hard to ignore ignorance. I thought I would never stoop down to level's of toungue bashing anyone, but this man is outright obnoxious and has serious superiority complex problems.
CBGBConnisur
08-14-05, 18:10
Someone mentioned that I should get protection when I open my club in Amsterdam, wrong, its my competition that will need protection. I'm a pretty initimidating person, I have an awfully bad habit of frightening people.
Sesameking - Hi friend, just to let you know that I have PMd you (rather than say anything here) on the issues raised in your recent posts.
If anybody else wants a bit more info on the gangbang then I can PM a little.
Oh, forgot to put in PM - nothing wrong with getting a freebie. Just unlikely after hours at Bev
CBGBConnisur
08-14-05, 19:21
A bunch of Amsterdam hoodlums are going to scare me???? They're the ones that are going to need some really good protection and some body armor. I have been in a number of dangerous situations in my life before. I finally found the pimp of the girl I was to rescue, I took a nice blood sample from him with my fist.
1) Ignore (you know who)
2) Re freebie at Bev- As Shiatsu has written it's very improbable. Even the odd totally single woman (and not one of the house regulars) there usually comes with some friends, and leaves with them. It is possible with patience and probably some basic German to meet Beverly participants pre-party on the Bev forum and chat and to make friends that way. I know of one WSG monger who has done that and reported here on his experience. But as Shiatsu has written, Bev is not structured as a takeaway bar, more like an instant self- service deli with lots of luscious goodies for immediate consumption.
3) Of the current D-dorf area FKK, the best are out of town in the so-called Golden Triangle west of the city towards the Dutch border - GoldenTime, Planet Happy Garden, and Park Sauna Wildenrath. I have never liked Blue Note, Dolce Vita has fallen out of favor, and Tropicana which has moved out of the city, has been getting very poor reviews. PartyTreff Pegasus which had an interesting albeit different concept than the rest, and was good for some quick, decadent sex with very willing Thai women ( I love Thai women), changed management earlier this year and I have not seen any reports since then.
4) re waving penises - there is also a very active partytreff scene around D-dorf and at many of them the coup de grace finale at the end has all of the male clientele jacking off onto the lady at the center of the bed. Keep your distance but when in Rome...
Iseeu - a propos your point 4 - One thing I never had the nerve to post about my experience at Beverly is that of course Cordelia liking a group coming over her face/in mouth etc carries some risks. I like to be involved and also keep an eye on what is going on, and occasionally someone misses the target and I find some unwelcome fluid landing on me (oh well, if a woman can cope with it surely I should??) - or preferably in Cordelia's ear!!! I know this isn't really very informative but just wanted to lighten things up a bit. Look forward to seeing you at Bev sometime
Travelforfun
08-15-05, 08:09
Iseeu thanks for the info my friend.
1. Point noted - My AIM (Auto Ignore Mode) is up and working :)
2. LOL, very imaginative indeed," LIKE SELF-SERVICE" great way of explaining the whole things I get a clear picture in my mind already.
I think i'll make do just fine with the self-service and keep my finger's crossed that the day I land up, there's enough for everyone. I would be dissapointed to stand in line and then endup with leftovers.I would'nt mind standing in line for the Pudding. Anyways, the cherry maybe gone long but as far as there's some cream left I don't mind a thing.
3. I would'nt be mobile (no rental's for me, too afraid to drive in unknown territory) so I guess the golden triangle should be a problem gettin to, what do you say? Or are these places accesible easy by public transport? Who doesn't love the Thais. Aa nude body with a smiling face is a sight no man can resist. It gives you a feelin of money well spent kinda feeling.
4. When in Rome, thats exactly what I'm gonna do. (shaitsu) If some Roman gets his fluid on me, I'll make sure he gets back some of mine as well.
Cheer's people.
Thanks for the PM's Shaitsu.
SesameKing,
To point 3)
Planet Happy Garden can legitimately be reached by public transport. Take a train to Krefeld and from the main station there is a bus which stops 300yards from the door. Samya by Cologne can also be well accessed by public transport, as cocoon in Wuppertal.
And I don't like Thais at all, I mean sleeping with the girls from there. If I never get with one again I won't feel I have missed anything.
CBGBConnisur
08-16-05, 00:39
The easiest way to get to PHG, forget about driving in Germany, unless you like your car dented and dinged, I nearly ran over a dozen people near Bonn, I won't put my beauty on the AB, take a train to Krefeld from the Dusseldorf hbf, and then a cab. I believe a bus goes there too but bus service in that area is limited.
Hi Sesame and the rest of you,
quote: "no rental's for me, too afraid to drive in unknown territory"
I guess that only applies for cars as you are going to drive your member into pretty unknown territory, even as far as going into sperm war with your fellow hobbyists LOL.
But seriously, I see this a lot, that is that some of you guys can't think of driving in a foreign country. I just don't understand it. I like public transport every know and then for the fun and social aspect of it, but when doing the FKK route, I can't stand to loose the time or the convenience of private transport. Driving in Germany is just as easy as in the US or anywhere in N-Europe.
Hell, I am starting to sound like CBGB, ranting about trivial stuff that has no meaning whatsoever. Damn.
To make up for my rantings: If anyone is in need of a transport last weekend of August (World and Oase), PM me and we'll see if the plans fit. I have one available seat.
And back to the subject of this board: Has anyone been recently to the Xtreff in Altenstadt? Used to entertain the idea of a visit when driving to Atlantis in the "old days", but always opted in favour of the FKK experience.
Chivaz
Rent a car from Sixt - just did for a 2-day weekend - 51 Euro total for 2 days including a GPS Navigation system. Nice ford mini-suv (forgot the name) and drove great on the Autobahn from Frankfurt to Solingen-Burg. I bet a couple of trains and taxis cost at least that much.
ALSO - try renting from Sixti - discount on the Sixt site. Rent a Smart for 5 Euro on a weekend day. That is not a typo.
CBGBConnisur
08-16-05, 02:53
i have become used to us-like australian roads with conservative speed limits and wider lanes. the lack of good parking in germany makes me nervous about keeping a nice car.
WorldTraveller
08-16-05, 02:56
on my first trip to germany, i was a bit intimidated at the thought of renting a car. i did rent one with gps, i had no problems finding my way around. yes, you may get a few scrapes or dings, i had no problems returning the vehicle with no additional charge to me for the minor damage. i would rent a car there most definately next time i visit. i did take the train for the long distances (hannover to munich and then eventually to italy) but used a rental car for mongering.
Chivaz
Sorry we are going to mss you again
As for X-Treff - it is no longer at Altenstadt so you need to check out the new address on its website (x-treff.com). It is more difficult to get to but not that far away fromwhere it usd to be. U =I have not seen any reports in the last few months,but the last ones I saw were saying that it is ok and good value - but that the girls lack the motivation of partytreff girls or even FKK.
New address -Am Schulzehnten 7
63546 Hammersbach (Langen-Bergheim)
Cordelia and I are planning to try a partytreff at Marburg (about 30 minutes from World) on Friday this week. If anybody wants to take the risk of exploring a new place with us then PM us.
Travelforfun
08-16-05, 07:24
peter,
thanks for the road guidelines, sounds pretty much easy to follow and reach the place now.
chivaz :- yeah , no rentals just for the cars ;) its an old sayin " men have their brains between their legs" , i found it true to a certain extent how many people can concentrate on work or any chores with a stiffy ,lol so i guess my member is far more courageous to venture into unknow territory as compared to the rest of me.
i love to drive too driving is definetly fun, its not that im a bad driver :). thank god i've never ran over anyone or bumped into anything a few dings and scraches are forgiveable like worldtraveller pointed out its just that the new places can be a little confusing and intimidating im not much of an expert with the gps so that makes things even more complex.im more concerned about talkin a wrong turn or driving down th wrong direction more than anything. dont want to spoil my evening with a speeding or wrong turn/exit ticket.
sorcerer : will definetly check out sixt for their cheap offer, maybe rent for a day and drive around the less complex roads to get a hang of the road and get acostomed to the the gps before venturing out on the faster autoban.
btw chivaz , you sound just fine , there's is no comparisions.
its nice to see that everyone seem to have their aim(auto ignore mode) up for everyone knows who :)
cheers and good day everyone
CBGBConnisur
08-16-05, 17:42
Except for driving in the southern region which has the stereotypical alpine rural scenery, I found driving in Frankfurt and the NRW areas to be as irritating as driving in New York City, some areas are as rundown as some dodgier parts of New York, the traffic can be horrific during certain hours of the day. The streets in the city areas are very narrow and you have to be a lot more careful than in North America. Its better to leave the driving to someone else, spending 20 to 30EUR for a taxi might seem expensive but getting into an accident is a lot worse.
If you get a car with a GPS remember you can set it to work in ENGLISH. Just look at the head menus for the word "sprach" or something like that and it menas language. Select it and you will see ENLISH. press a presto - chango -- it is in English
Chivaz - just saw a report elsewhere saying it was a cheap location for third class service. I know one can't rely on one report but it indicates that some caution might be needed before payingthe 150E entry
Thanks for the info Shiatsu. In the past I have seen report ranging from bad to ok, but never great. Will skip until I get some positive info on the club
Chivaz
I have been to the 'old' X-treff four times and it IS definitely YMMV. Had wild times and mild times, and have posted on them long ago. Here are the directions to the 'new' X-treff in German. Tried to translate it, but free translators just garble up even mildly technical things. Maybe someone on the board who is fluent in German can decode it.
Wegbeschreibung:
wir sind im Industriegebiet Langen-Bergheim.Es ist sehr einfach zu finden da es nur eine Straße gibt.
Du fährst die A45, egal ob du aus richtung Hanau oder Giessen kommst ist auf jeder Seite der Autobahn eine Raststätte "Langen-Bergheim" ca. 5Km von der Ausfahrt Altenstadt entfernt.Du fährst auf die Raststätte "Langen-Bergheim",nach der Tankstelle kommt eine kleine Straße, die fährst du runter bis zum Industriegebiet " Am Schulzehnten".
Wir befinden uns in der 1 Halle im 1 Stock über dem Fitnessstudio. Der Eingeng zu uns ist genau auf der anderen seite des Fitnessstudios.
Parkplätze sind ausreichend vorhanden.
I hope my english is better than the one of Google.
wir sind im Industriegebiet Langen-Bergheim.Es ist sehr einfach zu finden da es nur eine Straße gibt.
Du fährst die A45, egal ob du aus richtung Hanau oder Giessen kommst ist auf jeder Seite der Autobahn eine Raststätte "Langen-Bergheim" ca. 5Km von der Ausfahrt Altenstadt entfernt.Du fährst auf die Raststätte "Langen-Bergheim",nach der Tankstelle kommt eine kleine Straße, die fährst du runter bis zum Industriegebiet " Am Schulzehnten".Wir befinden uns in der 1 Halle im 1 Stock über dem Fitnessstudio. Der Eingeng zu uns ist genau auf der anderen seite des Fitnessstudios.
We are in industry zone Langen Bergheim and easy to find since there is only one street.
Whether you drive A45 from Hanau or Giessen there is on both sides a restaurant called "Langen-Bergheim", you drive there and after the gas station there is a small strret that you drive down towards industry zone " Am Schulzehnten".
We are in Halle 1 on second floor above the fitness studio.
Hi all,
Been to Beverly last evening (Monday Aug. the 29th). It was the FKK night (all nude).
This is my 3rd visit to Beverly, the 1st 2 were last year in September 2004, and were much more pleasant.
I stayed from around 8:45 pm till midnight.
There were around 7 couples, one of them were about 25 years old, 2 couples were around 40's, and the remaining 3 couples over 55. In addition to that there were around 8 single males including myself, 2 single ladies, and one trans.
Atmosphere was very unfriendly, couples remained in groups of max 4 among themselves, mostly chatting in the bar than getting involved in any kind of action.
One couple then moved to the sado room, and they invited the trans. with them.
Later two couples moved to another room downstairs, and were followed by 2 single men, and some action went there but nothing to really mention.
The lady of a very popular couple at Beverly (they were there last year), she is a stunner called Anja (I rate her 9.5) was always going up and down in search for some solo action. But she was not pleased with any of the gentlemen there present including the undersigned.
She just did a CBJ to a Turkish guy, and that was it.
I managed to score with a +/- 45 year old lady who was alone, but nothing memorable as she seemed to be in a very depressed mood, drinking all the time.
To my surprise the buffet was a real fiasco. They had only a few varieties, and it seemed that they were leftovers from the previous night.
Last but not least, before leaving I went upstairs to check if anything new was happening, well, I found the trans. + three couples + one of the two single ladies watching a porn movie, all sitting on the big bed, and all seemed bored.
All in all, my impression this time was very negative.
I'm going to PT Osnabrueck tongiht, a report will follow soon.
Bye,
Tim
Been last night (30 Aug 2005) to PT Osnabreuck.
Arrived at Osnabreuck trainstation, took bus n. 91 to Neumarket bus-stop, then crossed the street and took bus n.71 from the same Neumarket bus-stop but section C.
note that the Neumarket stop is divided into A, B, C, and D.
You arrive at A, then take the bus from C to Wulfter Turm stop (about 15 minutes).
Booked at hotel Wittenhaus which is a 3-4 minute walk to the Partytreff.
Tel n. 0541/959030 . Single room is 40 Euro (breakfast incl.)
Walked to the PT around 7:30 pm, a Polish girl opened the door, she told me 100 Euro incl. (food and girls). She showed me around, and told me that tonight 7 girls are available. (she isn't one of them though).
I went to change, wrapped a towel around me, then went to the main bar lounge, there were around 9-10 men incl. myself.
The girls were 4 from Romania, one Polish, one German and one Jamaican.
I could feel some tension in the atmosphere as the Polish girl who greeted me, seemed to be the manager, and she was yelling all the time at the Romanian girls. In fact two of them got dressed later and left the place.
Anyway, hooked with one Romanian called Jasmine, she was a cute 19 years old, friendly, went upstairs and had a good session with her.
Showered, then back to the bar, had some drinks, food was (sucks), only rice, cheese, greek salad and cold cuts.
Started a conversation with the german girl (Jacquliene), she was about 30, nice body, very slim and very friendly, went upstairs, then the Jamaican girl (Vivian) joined, and it was a nice 3 some.
Showered again and back to the bar, a couple of drinks, then started talking with Vivian who is really fun to talk to, by the way, she is the only one who speaks English among the girls. My German is only basic, but with the Romanian girls I spoke in Italian, and they spoke in Romanian and we managed to understand each other with a 90% accuracy.
Back to Vivian, we went upstairs and had a wonderful session (BBBJ) and a very GFE conversation and session.
All in all, the place is OK, I was told by Vivian and a German gentleman that on Fri and Sat there are 15 to 20 girls, and much more people and more fun.
The negative points were the buffet, and the yelling -between the manager and the Romanian girls- everynow and then (though in private) but could be clearly heard.
Back home today
Good luck all.
Tim.
Kaare Olsen
08-31-05, 18:46
Hi,
I am travelling often via Frankfurt in con. with my work. I would very much like some information on the x-treff club (gangbang). I have been to nearly all FKK clubs in Frankfurt area, but now I would like to enter the 'party-scene'. I am 33 yaers old and stil good looking ;) Is this something for me? Is there anyone how have the telephone no. to the x-treff club?
Best regards,
K. Olsen
Kaare,
X-Treff has nothing to do with being good looking. It is not a partytreff where couples go. It is a one price fuck all you can club with Hungarian Porn stars working as hookers.
A real partytreff or swinger club is where your success depends on your looks, but not in x-treff.
Unfortunately FKK night at beverly is like this. You experienced the same thing I did a while ago and wrote in a report. Wednesday, Friday and Satirday are the best days at Beverly witha guarantee of a good time.
CBGBConnisur
09-01-05, 04:36
Either Friday or Saturday is the day to go at the Beverly if you are a single male.
To everybody who is planning to go to Beverly Bergheim
Sorry to say but I just learned from the discussion board of Beverly that the second club "Beverly Bergheim" is finally closed down now. They had a brake during the summer months and now they announced officially that the club is closed down.
Blue Eyes
We will be making a trip to Beverly on Friday Sept 30. If anybody else is going and would like to meet up and have some fun then PM us
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Hi everyone,
I'll be in Germany in early November. Going to cover Oase and World in Frankfurt and then head up to Dusseldorf for some time in Blue Note and partytreff action in Mettmann, Swinger Oase (Langenfeld) and Beverly.
I've been to Mettmann and Beverly so I know what to expect (and what I've been missing !!)
Does anyone have any feedback on Tina & Ralf's Swinger Oase in Langenfeld.
Each trip, I try to cover one new partytreff club. If you dont think Tina & Ralf is worth a visit, any recommendations around the Dusseldorf region.
If anyone's going to be in Frankfurt/Dusselsorf around the first week of November, drop me a note. Maybe we can hook up for a "joint expedition".
BTW I've always managed to travel to all the clubs by train. If anyone needs directions (by public transport), let me know.
Regards
Mike
Been reading (with anticipation) about German Partytreff Beverly. I'll be in Oberhausen in a few weeks and want to know if it's the closest to Oberhausen.
Thanks for any info
Hi Mike,
About partytreff Tina and Ralf in Langenfeld is only to say, that it is going down there since a few months.
A friend of mine visited the club about 3 weeks ago and told me, that there were only three girls - or better to say women in the age of 45-50.
Most of the other girls should have leaved to other clubs.
Two years ago my friend and me had joined one of the parties in langenfeld and it was yet very good. But now it will be not the same like before !
I myself meanwhile prefer the Partytreff in Mettmann, when I´m for business in Dusseldorf.
Two times I was there this year on a saturday ( June + August) and both times had a very horny evening with about 7or 8 girls different ages (20-40) and some couples.
I heard that the partyclubscene around Dusseldorf and Ruhr-Area has been gone down, so that a few clubs were closed. Some of the girls from the older clubs are now in Mettmann.
For my next visit in germany in december Mettmann will be a fixed date.
Have fun !
Zorbas
Hi Zorbas,
Thanks for the update on Tina&Ralf in Langenfeld. I was planning on going on the 1st Friday of November which is supposed to be Gangbang Night. Any idea if the club would be better on that night ?
I'm still keen on trying a new club - it's the excitement of doing something different. (That's how I found Beverley !!)
Any idea if MFZ Krefeld, Partyteff Colonia (in Cologne), or Partytreff Osnabruck are any good ?
Is there anyone who reads (and understands) the German forums. Would appreciate any tips on which partytreff is popular right now.
Zorbas - I definitely will be going to Mettmann. Hope you enjoy yourself in December.
Mike
Lover Boy #2
10-01-05, 04:40
"Beverly closest to Oberhausen
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Been reading (with anticipation) about German Partytreff Beverly. I'll be in Oberhausen in a few weeks and want to know if it's the closest to Oberhausen".
It's not the closest, but it is the best.
Any idea if MFZ Krefeld, Partyteff Colonia (in Cologne), or Partytreff Osnabruck are any good?
Is there anyone who reads (and understands) the German forums. Would appreciate any tips on which partytreff is popular right now.There is a general consensus among german forum for Wagenfeld; If you do not want to drive far to the north, Diepholz or Münster are an option. No news about MFZ it is closed or at least far down. Same for Mettmann, last time I was alone with one girl and four "ladies". PT Osnabrück has not a good fame but I did have a nice day last year. Lengede has same management (I hate the maedirerranean look of the guy who drives that!) as Os but better fame. I was not in mood when I visited in April but cannot say any bad.
Travelforfun
10-03-05, 15:38
Hi all once again,
Been a while since i was last here. Im reaching Dusseldorf next week can anyone guide me with directions to reach Mettmann and Tina & Ralf from Dusseldorf.
I'll be here for a week so if anyone here would like to accompany it would be great to have company :)
Im plannin to visit atleast the above 2 and Beverly on Friday the 14th. So if any of you are in town please do let me know we can share the cab and the girls there ;)
Shaitsu we are waiting for your updated 30th sept party news.Please do share and my reagards to cordelia. If you guys are in town then it would be awesome to meet up.
Sesameking - we are writing this very minute, Unfortunately we aren't around at the same time as you
Back to Beverly on a Friday night after a long absence
We arrived at 18.00 as it opened, and entered through the side door (the main door being used only on Saturdays). We paid our money, gave our names, and got a locker key. On our way to the locker room we were stopped several times by staff who welcomed us back in a variety of languages and body languages. We were very very touched that we should be remembered. One of the staff did his usual lecherous appreciative drool over Cordelia, who had arrived in over the knee boots and a very short skirt
As we changed we were still nervous as one never knows what is going to happen. We went to the buffet and chose from the seven hot main courses, several salads, several desserts, and two decent wines. Anyone used to FKK food would think they had gone to heaven.
At about seven we started to prowl, but decided that we would adopt a different tactic to normal. Instead of us starting together we let Cordelia pick up men one by one as they took her fancy. Unlike some nights there were a lot of regular working women (well over a dozen!) and not a large number of single men. This mean that there was little in the way of gangbanging for Cordelia but instead a lot of one man at a time – probably about ten over the whole evening.
The details would be boring, but included anal, sandwich, and cuminmouth (for Cordelia) etc. Cordelia found the overall quality of the men and the quality of the sex to be more adventurous than the FKK norm. There were some other diversions – Inessa as always took charge when we were in her room and started directing men to Cordelia with the instruction to lick or fuck and announcing that Cordelia was a "geile sau"(which is not the insult it sounds in English but the highest form of praise). At the same time she was sticking her fingers up Cordelia’s pussy and gettinglicked by Cordelia. Shiatsu joined in a little, but wasn't sure he could keep up with Inessa’s boisterous activity (having earlier been given an unmentionable invitation from her).
As the evening wore on the rooms were getting busy with couples. As usual they seemed to be keeping themselves to themselves. We didn’t explore the area reserved for couples as we find the process of getting involved to be incredibly tedious since 95% normally only want to play with themselves.
There were the normal weird things. Shiatsu started licking Cordeli after a man had finished with her, in the hope that someone else would come and take over. But instead we simply got a large appreciative audience of couples who stood silently and expressionless. When we looked up they avoided all eye contact and refused to return a friendly glance. So as usual we figured that if they wanted only to fuck themselves that’s what they could do – we didn’t need them. So we got up and rejoined the food. The couples then skulked off to do whtever they were going to do (if anything)
The food turned out to be very lively. Since part of it was protuding from Inessa’s lips as she made a long and provocative invitation to Shiatsu. At this point Shiatsu wondered whether Inessa was an exponent of post-modern irony or not. Cordelia says she was serious. However as it was the food room we stuck at a chaste kiss.
Suddenly we realised it was 12.30 – six hours plus of sex was enough for Cordelia after three weeks at World. So we went home to the hotel. And fucked.
The evening confirmed that Beverly is as interesting and fun as ever. There were a lot of “regular” women available for the single men, and of course the chance that they would find an extra bonus like Cordelia there. If a single man was interested in getting to join a couple then unless there is the rarity of someone like Cordelia it is necessary normally to introduce oneself to a couple at the bar or in the disco. And this can take some nerve and time.
So – if you are interested in a varied evening and don’t mind public sex (and that does mean other men around not you and lots of women), then Bev can be fun. You will have the opportunity to have more sex than you can manage, However it is not for everybody. If you want long meaningful conversations and private sex it is not suitable. Although there is no problem in getting one on one sessions which might last say 30 minutes
And to repeat the old point. The workers at Beverly are not FKK workers. This means that they will have as much sex as you want because they enjoy being there and are not counting your euros. They tend to be much older than the normal FKK worker and not in such good shape – so if you are fixed on 18 year old girls then Beverly may not suit you. Although as we have reported previously it is possible – and if you are lucky, where else would you get an 18 year old girl willingly having sex with you for free? (that is a rhetorical question, ok?)
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Hi all,
I just joined the forum and have been reading all the threads with great interest. Some experienced writers here! Keep it up for us new to this.
I will be in Dusseldorff 11-13 October and am definately visiting Beverley.
Is anyone going on any of these nights that speaks English, would be good to meet some of you, especially Shiatsu.
The workers at Beverly are not FKK workers. This means that they will have as much sex as you want because they enjoy being there and are not counting your euros. They tend to be much older than the normal FKK worker and not in such good shape
Shiatsu, excellent report as always,
What age would you say the average Beverly working woman is ???
I am 35 and prefer to stick to women under 40 if possible.
Thank you. Well - it's hard to guess. I guess the age range is from around 20 to 55. But if age is important to you it might be best to stick to FKKs (or if you want group sex go to one of the gangbang professional sessions which are around in Germany)
The main thing about a place like Beverly is that you have to accept what is on offer - and it will vary a lot from day to day
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Hi all, just joined the forum.
Impressed with all the comments and suggestions.
I am visiting Dusseldorff 11-14 Oct and definately going to Beverly!
Was just wondering if anyone is going during this period, if so would like to hook up and be able to get some experience and speak some English.
Would by keen to meet Shiatsu & Cordeliia after hearing so many good reports from them.
(Hi Cummin- we won't be back until November)
I would just like to dedicate our recent long post to Wizard - who Sorcerer says has died. Although I never met Wizard his posts were some of the earliest I read on the forum and some of the most inspiring (especially about Beverly)
Travelforfun
10-04-05, 13:52
Great report as always shiatsu.Im glad cordelia had lot of fun as well.
Your reports always tempt me more and more to visit beverly atleast once. Frankly speaking having read so much bout the place i dont even care if my visit end up being lousy as well ;) ( I strongly doubt that though).
Cummin , im around town during the same time as well and the only language i can speak is English so i guess we can plan to visit the place together.
You can PM me and lets see if we can fix up a meeting.
Take Care,
Sesameking
For a first visit for men going as singles then Friday or Wednesday are probably the best bets, Saturday is most expensive and a bit more couple orientated
Hi SesameKing,
Any updates on your trips to Mettmann and Tina&Ralf. (I'm sorry I didnt see your post earlier cos I could have given you directions to both clubs via train)
3 weeks to go for my trip. Mettmann and Beverly are definitely on my list. I'm still trying to decide on one more club.
Zorbas and Mufu have given valuable input. I'm now considering Partytreff Munster which has a special party on 5/11 with 2 "pornstars".
Beverly on SATURDAY is SUPER. Yes there are more couples, but there are also a lot more single women and couples who like to experiment. Also - if yo have never experienced an erotic disco - then you MUST go Saturday just for the eye-candy.
AND Shiatsu - thank you for the dedication to WIZARD. A good friend and also a friend of this and other forums.
Hi all,
As a recent first timer to Beverly, I thought i'd share my experiences. Being greedy and only being in the area for a few days I went to Bev three nights in a row:
Tuesday- First time, lives up in every way to what I've read! Even as a non German I was welcomed at the door and by the ladies in the club. Met some interesting couples as well. Being Bi night there were a few tv's ( not georgeous) but they mainly went with ladies and or a couple. Nothing to worry about as a straght guy, no one interefered. There was a little bit of bi action with a couple and a guy which most watched and the rest was get togethers with singles and couples. All in all a very pleasant evening, even with some of the girls who are employed. I felt quite at home and did not want the evening to end. One wife was stunning and ended up after a number of younger men while hubby watched on and joined in with later. Club was quite busy with a good mix of couples and single guys/ girls ( about 40-50 persons in all) Price Euro 70 for a single.
Wednesday- General get together evening, again welcomed back (this time) and found new girls working. Met some really nice people and some good couples and had another great time. Price Euro 100, closed at midnight. A little quit I was told as generally up to 90 persons but perhpas the football was on.
Thursday- slightly different - Leather and latex night, but single guys are permitted with shorts but should be black. Price Euro 110. No quite as good a crowd all round, mostly pairs and looked like a lot knew each other. Still managed to have some good fun and watch some light S & M. Closed at midnight, thank goodness, was worn out by then after three days on the trot. Upstairs was closed this night to singles - pity!
Summary - Ambiance good, food very good each night, people generally easy to meet and speak to even if your not German speaking. Definately one of the best clubs I have been to ever and will return when I get the chance.
Rgds
Will be visiting Hamburg beginning November, can anyone offer some info on similar club/s in Hamburg?
Cummin. Glad you ahd a good time.Sorry we missed you.
In case anybody wants to meet up - we are planning to go to Beverly on Friday 11 November and Saturday 12 November. PM us if you are around. Shiatsu and Cordelia
long over due report
I was at baldis party treff maybe 4 weeks ago. I think it was a very strange place. Price was on the site. Some nice girls some not so nice. all service was fast and protected. If you last longer than 2 min the girl gets impatiant and starts bitching. I saw one guy having a arguement about it.
I never saw any good sessions I also never saw any really group action.
so party treff baldis no good. and strange it was one of the weirdest expearances ever.
Member #3173
10-30-05, 08:07
Always wonder if Asian males will feel out of place in Party Treffs anywhere in Eurpoe. If okay I am sure more single Asian men will join in. We are not shy.
3173 - asian is not out of place at Beverly. Th only thing out of place would be any one who objected. I have seen asian men there - one of them was probably the best looking men ever to go to Beverly!!
Anybody _ Cordelia and I currently plan to go to Bev on Nov 11 and 12. Anyone else going might want to PM us?
A few questions about the Beverly club that i cant find in the forum.
1) How far is Beverly from Dusseldorf airport?
2) How far is Beverly from downtown Dusseldorf?
3) Does Beverly have showers?? (or sauna,whirlpool??)
4) What is the closest good FKK club to Beverly?
Thanks in advance
Fred (formerly user name Fred Mercury)
Fred (or Wan, or whatever):
Beverly is quite close to Wuppertal. You can find an exact map and address on Kaleu's Clubindex. I think it's Mollenkotten 243.
The closest FKK is FKK Cocoon - just a few blocks away, really. Nice little place (compared to the giant Frankfurt FKK's).\
...Amended info:
Nope - wrong about that. Mollenkotten 243 is Cocoon's address, which is listed in Wuppertal. Beverly is Eschbachstrasse 149 in D-42659 Solingen-Burg. Still pretty damn close together - maybe a 10 minute ride or less between the two. Wuppertal is sort of stretched out along a river valley and Cocoon/Wuppertal, Beverly/Solingen-Burg, and the location of the infamous yellow house that is Partytreff Solingen (formerly Tina & Ralf's) which is at Zum Strandbad 32 45549 Sprockhövel/Haßlinghausen are all really pretty close together, even though the addresses appear disparate.
Wan
Bev does not have whirlpool etc but it does have showers, Decor is not exactly modern sohistication.
It's not very far from Dusseldorf - more to the point is that the journey from that direction is a bit awkward. I think an absolute minimum of 45 to 60 minutes (and you will need GPS or a good map).
It's much easier to get to from Leverkusen (Cologne) or Wuppertal. As for FKK - if Wuppertal has Cocoon, Cologne has Samya. Leverkusen is 25 minutes from Beverly (mainly autobahn)
Wuppertal about 20 minutes (mainly autobahn) (well the nearest bit -it goes on forever along the river valley). Ex steel works town with rich history (Engels, elephants which jump oout of overhanging railways) but little for a visitor, unless interested in its enormous number of brothels (Cocoon although further away than Wuppertal itself is quicker to get to as it is almost on the autobahn)
Bigasslover
12-12-05, 04:50
On Thursday Dec 1 I went to the club only to be refused admission. The man who answered the door said "this is a private club". This was a real bummer as I had specifically travelled to Mainz from Frankfurt by train and taxi, and got a room at a hotel with the express purpose of visiting this club. I was really surprised as about 10 days ago I called before leaving the states, and I was told by a "Jergen" that there was no problem about a single male visiting, and the enty was 100 euros.
A real bummer!
CBGBConnisur
12-14-05, 20:27
Spritzhaus is not a club worth visiting for a single male, the best places are probably Beverly and Mettman. Otherwise go to an FKK club.
Can anyone tell me about FKK Night (Monday) at Beverly?
Visual,
here is a report from another member about an FKK night
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383555&postcount=568
Of course swingers clubs can be hit and miss, so you could actually have a better time than this guy.
Wan,
Beverly is easy to get to from Dusseldorf without a GPS. Follow these directions. This was may be more miles (km) but very easy and fast becasue it is all Autobahn.
Take A3 south towards Frankfurt to the A1. Take the A1 north until exit 96 - Wermelskirchen. Follow the Wermelskirchen exit - stay to the left each time there is an option. Finally at the "T" go left and follow this curvy road all the way to the bottom of a big hill. Beverly is on your left.
Enjoy ...
BTW I did not find FKK night very enjoyable. A lot to look at -but less people in a sharing mood.
Great time last Weds. at Bev. Got there after 9 due to late meetings and really miserable driving conditions. I thought that maybe the miserable weather would keep people at home, but as I approached the full parking lot, I realized that like the postal service , nothing can keep dedicated swingers from making their appointed rounds...
About 20 couples, 10 single men and 3 unattached women. While some of the couples kept to the couples only rooms, I enjoyed 3 play sessions with attached women, all after initial small talk and touching, and 1 with one of the unattached women, which was just a "Shpritz" asap. As always the people are very friendly to " the Americaner" and go out of the way to make me feel accepted. So even as a single without a partner to help me get into the restricted areas, I still had a great time.
Great place - just wish I could get back on a more regular basis and make more lasting relationships as they seem to be on a whole very nice and open people.
Business takes me back to Germany in a few weeks, and I won't miss an opportunity to spend any free time at Beverly. I'll be there first and second weekend in Feb. , but have to be in Munich during the week. I wouldn't call myself a regular, but I do manage a trip there every year or so. Anyone who'd like to meet there just PM me.
M2
In Germany checking out the FKK scene in Duesseldorf. First club visited was an interesting experience (http: //www. Club-dolcevita. De/). $100 euro entrance fee included food, drinks (had myself a couple of really good german beers. Until the cut me off after 4. Seems theres a limit). And all the sex you can handle until you decide to leave.
Several attractive women at the club. And several unattractive ladies as well. Kim from Prague stood out. A 9 in my book. 5 foot 7, blonde hair, large natural c´s, great ass. Had her twice. Two other id have to say rated about an 8. 5 on my scale. Had both of them a couple of times (one was a porn star or is. Great body). Several of the other ladies rated in the mid 6 to low 7"s. Not all that bad, just not my style or type.
To sum up this club. 100 euros included free food, four great german beers and unlimited regular drinks. And about 13 pretty good to awsome sessions with some very striking young ladies.
Breadman - good report. 13 sessions? How many v's or C's did you pop?
Just to clarify that Partytreff Dolce Vita should not be cofused with FKK Dolce Vita. PT DV is in Wagenfeld a good 200 km from D-dorf and actually closer to Hannover and Bremen. I was last there about 2 years ago and as reported here is a great club with possibility the nicest facility of all partytreff clubs. FKK DV is the familiar D-dorf area FKK that has gone downhill in the last 3 years.
Does anyone on this board have experience with the swinger club Caesar's Palace in Sprockhoevel/Germany? My hubby and I usually visit club Beverly in Solingen but we are curious to discover new fields.
Does anyone on this board have experience with the swinger club Caesar's Palace in Sprockhoevel/Germany? My hubby and I usually visit club Beverly in Solingen but we are curious to discover new fields.
I wrote a report on Feb 3rd 2005. Huge, good food, nice girls, but no swinging!
Hello everbody,
I would like to know if there are any BI FKK's or PArtutreff's in Germany or similar (shemale FKK's).
I read that Beverly has a bi or trans night on Tuesday's, anybody can reconfirm or talk about any experience there ?
MrGoodBi.
I went to Solingen on a tuesday last year. I believe that it would have been a sad experience even if I were BI. There was no single girls. A few couple had great swinging action but were not sharing. An awful lady was selling her (no less) awful husband.
Lover Boy #2
02-24-06, 06:15
Blue Eyes,
I have never been to Caesar's Palace, but I did have a conversation with someone about this place (actually 2 years ago, so the info might be stale)....but, I was told that it was a fun experience with a lot of activity (couple). This was in discussion with another couple, so they were expressing feelings as a couple. I was told that opportunity for a single visitor to this location was nil.
I went last thursday for a "black and leather night"; Entry was 110€, black underwears are accepted but leather is recommended.
There were a few couples who all went upstair; From what I have seen before it was closed to singles, there wa not a lot of swinging.
The ladies of the house were 3; 2 over 50 and a younger one Gaby who stayed all night with a male guardian faking as a sharing couple; she concentrated on BBBJ and did not accept FJ.
My first encounter was with Gaby and I was tricked, really believing it were a sharing couple. She did go to completion and I had to go to the restaurant to take some force; Here also, the quality went down although acceptable for a US citizen, meat is regular for a french gourmet. I went back to Gaby about 4 times and must agree that she made some effort.
As I did not want to leave without a fuck, I accepted the invitation of one of the 50-ager; the most exciting part was when two young leathered lesbians came to see us; I doubled my efforts to satisfy their seeing lust despite my lack of appetite.
I am looking forwards some new report but my feeling is that Beverly is going down.
After my deception in Beverly Solingen, I arrived fryday at 11am in Wulfen planning a full day stay in Partytreff Dorsten. The place is not easy to find; it took me 40 minutes even with a detailed map.
On entry, I paid 100 Euros and changed into blue towel and blue slippers.
The girls are 5, all from Poland but speak good german and all below 25 year old. I would rate them 8-9 except for Claudia who overpass the 10. Maybe Claudia Schiffer would have won the contest a few year ago but today surely not. The other ones were all nice; even if one would have won some supporters by loosing a few pounds, I am sure that she has a lot of fans.
The ambiance was a bit dull; there were about 10 patrons whith an average of 35 year old. The girls seems to be really in GFE with the younger ones but despite being 3 times older than some of them, I could not complaint. The girls are incredible in motivation: in a shift of one hour, they had 15 minutes downstairs to pause then they were upstairs again for 2 or 3 guys with shower inbetween.
As soon as I entered, I was caught on the "Wiese" and drained orally and manually by two ladies. After a not so successful session 20 minutes later, I asked for the key of my locker and complemented the Apcalis which I had in the morning by half Kamagra. I see no difference between K and V but I doubt that the content of Apcalis is similar to Cialis. This worked fine and I could fuck 5 or 6 times in the afternoon including 3 times with Claudia. The nice thing in Dorsten is that the girls do not object fucking and are not checking if you fainted or not!
I stayed until 8pm to check if the ambiance got hotter on evening but as no other patrons were coming, I went upstair a last time with the "not so slim" one for a real session. They nearly had to bring back to my car.
"Ficken bis der arzt kommt" (fuck until doctor comes) could really be the logo of this PT. highly recommendable.
How far is Partytreff Dolce Vita from Dusseldorf airport?? it seems like an amazing deal according to Breadman. 100 euro for entry, food, some beers, and unlimited sex.
Is there a downside to all this?
Is Partytreff Dorsten nearer to Dusseldorf airport?
Id like to visit some of these "all in" clubs soon. But I would prefer to not rent a car, so any suggestions??
I tried looking through quite a few screens to get more info, alas, I am lost!
It sounds like something to try, but can someone give good directions?
Thanks!
Mark
It sounds like something to try, but can someone give good directions?
Mark
http://www.gina-cam.com/
Anfahrt über A 43:Ausfahrt Haltern, Wulfen, Wesel, Lippramsdorf. Richtung Dorsten-Wulfen (B58), 3 Ampel rechts, Schilder Gewerbegebiet Beckenkamp folgen, links Beckenkamp einbiegen und schon fährst du auf unser Haus mit der großen "22" zu.
Exit Haltern, Wulfen, Wesel, Lippramsdorf on A43, direction Dorsten-Wulfen on B58 third redlight right then follow the indication "Gewerbegebiet Beckenkamp" turn left to Beckenkamp str. Look for the big "22".
There is also a conventional brothel adjacent which I never tried;
Dorsten-Wulfen - Gewerbegebiet Beckenkamp -
Beckenkamp 22
Info: 0 23 69 20 68 76 - Büro: 0 23 69 20 89 83
How far is Partytreff Dolce Vita from Dusseldorf airport??
Is Partytreff Dorsten nearer to Dusseldorf airport?
Id like to visit some of these "all in" clubs soon. But I would prefer to not rent a car, so any suggestions??
I think this was already mentioned: do not mix Partytreff Dolce Vita and FKK Dolce Vita. The first one is a well recommended PT in Wagenfeld 200+ km from Dusseldorf.
As for using the public transportation, at first sight I thought it is a half daytrip. after checking http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de it turns out to be a 2 hour trip:
Düsseldorf Flughafen 05.03.06 dep 10:16 IC 431 InterCity
Recklinghausen Hbf 05.03.06 arr 10:58
Recklinghausen Hbf 05.03.06 dep 11:13 Bus SB25
Bus Richtung: Dorsten ZOB
Marl Mitte, Marl (Westf) 05.03.06 arr 11:30
Marl Mitte, Marl (Westf) 05.03.06 dep 11:33 Bus SB26
Bus Richtung: Wulfen Großer Ring, Dorsten
Wulfen Mitte, Dorsten 05.03.06 arr 11:56
This is probably worth if you plan to have an hotel nearby; do not except to find a connection at night! If you plan to take a taxi at Recklinghausen it is a 10 miles course that probably will cost about 30 Euros
Mufu,
Thankyou for your help.
Can somebody be kind enough to breifly describe what really happens (or does not happen) in a PartyTreff club?I undertsand these are swinger'sclubs, which is fine, but what happens really once you have paidd yoyr entrance fee, and got into your towel and slippers? Is sex free? And are there pros? because I know by experience elsewhere that if you are a single in swinger club,you are unlikley to get in any action, so you may just be happy watching..Is that true as well in a PartyTreff club?
Thanks to anyone who can advise.
Can somebody be kind enough to breifly describe what really happens (or does not happen) in a PartyTreff club?I?
Thanks to anyone who can advise.
FKK: you pay a small entry for all day then pay ~50 E per half hour to go to private room with the girl you want when you want. Sauna and food are luxurious
Partytreff: you pay ~100E for all day, then you are chosen by one (or many) girl to go to the public ground and show your skill for 10~40 minutes; don't panic, they leave you some time to recharge before you go again. Sauna and food are basic.
In the Ruhr, the PT girls are ugly (except for some 4 hour places); quality increases north of Oberhausen i.e Dorsten, Osnabruck, Muenster, Wagenfeld and the Hannover Braunschweig area. There is no PT south of the Ruhr but they are 4 hour Gangbang around Frankfurt .
Swinger's club where singles pay much more than couple do not advertize as partytreff. Few may provide (ugly) single girls who are somehow 'compensated'.
hello,
i am jerrick from canada, a new subscriber to this forum, although a few-year enthusiastic visitor to germany and partytreff clubs.
first of all, let me pay a one-sentence tribute to two "mentors" of my partytreff career whose posts i just found above: wizard and kaleu - and to whom i will be "eternally grateful" for their pointers over the web-years, which led me to exploring partytreff. unfortunately, canada lags behind a bit in that department, but we are working on it.
the only partytreff club i got to know well has been mettmann - i've been there 10 times or so since 2000, with great cumming every time. sylvia is a very enthusiastic host, and whenever she is in command of the action, there is never a dull moment.
the club is very clean, nicely decorated, with rooms offering a few discrete corners (but then discrete sex is not what we go to partytreff for). food is basic but always fresh and tasty. i remember the club bar well but the memories go back to the sexy patrons in front of it rather than to the drink selection - i avoid alcohol in partytreff to keep as much stamina as possible.
the club is located in a quiet industrial area, distanced from the type of traffic that often overcrowds inner-city clubs. mettmann tends to attract relaxed and friendly regulars from various parts of germany and abroad. saturday parties are best chances to meet swinger couples, usually with the female being the really sex-hungry one.
as far as mettmann's hostesses - i have met a few who seem to have been there for years, and also a healthy mix of new faces. on average, i would rank the looks of the girls a bit below some front-line fkk clubs (which attract clients by having new bodies all the time), say l (looks) ranging from 5 to 9. however, their attitude and service are well above average - my ranking is a=9-10 and s=9-10. the staff ladies will always be friendly to you, and take you into wild party action (well, unless you have a bad luck and visit on a sunday after a really wild saturday), no matter how you look or what language you speak. i never left that place without being "fully drained"). an occasional gfe experience happens, too, but you should not expect that when the club is busy and the girls have to satisfy many clients (again, gfe is not what we go to partytreff for). on the other hand, once i met a german single lady there, who just searched for good times with sex and laughs - and so i had to go back the next day to make it up with the hostesses.
now, a question to those who may recently have visited mettmann on wednesdays - do you have any comments regarding their recently-advertised champaigner parties (i.e. natursekt or [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) party). i am not a natural in that department (tried it once with a sex provider in canada), but my next visit puts me in mettmann on a wednesday, so?
good luck partytreffing,
jerrick
near Hanau, I think from their directions. Sounds like an interesting arrangement, with 99 euro and 150 euro specials?
Any recent experiences? Any comments on their lineup?
Mark
NOT near Hanau. Near Altenstadt. Here are the directions in German:
Du fährst die A45, egal ob du aus richtung Hanau oder Giessen kommst ist auf jeder Seite der Autobahn eine Raststätte "Langen-Bergheim" ca. 5Km von der Ausfahrt Altenstadt entfernt.Du fährst auf die Raststätte "Langen-Bergheim",nach der Tankstelle kommt eine kleine Straße, die fährst du runter bis zum Industriegebiet " Am Schulzehnten".
Wir befinden uns in der 1 Halle im 1 Stock über dem Fitnessstudio. Der Eingeng zu uns ist genau auf der anderen seite des Fitnessstudios.
Parkplätze sind ausreichend vorhanden.
Just south of the Altenstadt exit a few kilometers are gas stations on both sides of the highway A45. BEHIND the buildings (exiting the non-highway side of the parking lots) on each side is a single-lane paved glorified cowpath that leads down to an industrial area near an overpass. You can't get back on the A45 at that overpass, but you can take either paved cowpath back up to the gas stations.
Now then, once down in the industrial park area you look for a building with a "1" on it that in my book looks like a "7." Just the way locals print their numbers. On the bottom floor is (or was) some sort of a karate gym. On the SECOND floor is X-treff. Parking and entrance are on the highway-side of the building.
Went there back in December. Open from 6p.m. to 10p.m. I stayed about an hour, then went to World. Two semi-decent women, 5 guys, all of us bored out of our skulls. Mechanical sex. Not like the old days when it was in Altenstadt (see my old reports). Could have just been a bad night. Check that. WAS a bad night.
What I have read on German forums echoes what Whitey2 says. That the number of girls on most nights in minimal. I have not been myself
I appreciate everyone sharing. Also got some private mails saying "don't bother." Maybe if things change. thanks for the directions, too, if I decide to try it for the experience.
Mark
Frankfurter
03-19-06, 00:14
Guys,
I am going to Germany in late April. Did anybody check out PP.Korrekt near Wadgassen/Saarlouis recently? Their web site is downfor a while now and I was wondering what the deal is.
The last time I was there the owner just came back from trip to Thailand and importet himself a local knockout beauty. Anyway, the down side was that he had to let go of his old wife who started the club with him.
I wonder whether they are still in business.
Any intelligence on this? Greatly appreciated,
Frankfurter
.......There is no PT south of the Ruhr but they are 4 hour Gangbang around Frankfurt .
Swinger's club where singles pay much more than couple do not advertize as partytreff. Few may provide (ugly) single girls who are somehow 'compensated'.There are PT south of the Ruhr districts. There are several in Cologne and Duesseldorf (Mettman probably the best known).
I like Fashion Privat Party in Hersel just north of Bonn on the AB555 and the Nr 16 trolley Bonn-Koeln, http://fashion-privatparty.de - Tel 02222 - 82597 (call after 18oo), opens at 20oo, every night. You must call to get invited.
They charge Eu75, couples and females free. They claim to have no hookers, but there are some 'regulars', looks 5-10. If you did not like the action they'll give you a raincheck and on three days a week ticket price includes a second night. All food (average but fresh) and drink (incl beer, wine, liquor) were included. Pool, sauna, gym equipment. Attendance varies from 5-150! Many students from BN uni. Wildest night I ever had there was on Christmas!
Can somebody be kind enough to breifly describe what really happens (or does not happen) in a PartyTreff club?I undertsand these are swinger'sclubs, which is fine, but what happens really once you have paidd yoyr entrance fee, and got into your towel and slippers? Is sex free? And are there pros? because I know by experience elsewhere that if you are a single in swinger club,you are unlikley to get in any action, so you may just be happy watching..Is that true as well in a PartyTreff club?
Thanks to anyone who can advise.PT and swing clubs are hit & miss, but some will offer 2 tickets for the price of 1, or some kind of satisfaction nguarantee. Once inside no more money exchnages. There can be lots of action or none. If the couples get active in the 'Darkroom', that means everybody is welcome to join and looks will not matter, only performance. So give 'em a try. My favorite is http://fashion-privatparty.de near Bonn. Lots of student fem/cpl from BN uni who want to eat, drink, swim, sauna and party for free and like sex too.
Hello,
Has anybody visited "Club 19" in Quadrath-Ichendorf?
I found its name on http://www.6relax.de/ and it looks worthwhile to visit there on my next trip to Germany.
Thanks in advance for sharing your info.
Travelforfun
04-13-06, 16:26
Thankfully i shall be in dusseldorf again this month end.
Can anyone give me directions to reach Partytreff metmann by Train from Haptbahnhof.
Sesameking,
The S-bahn train S28 goes from Düsseldorf Hbf to Mettmann-Stadtwald. From there you can walk or catch bus number 745 to the nearest stop to Industriestraße which is called Schöllersheider Straße.
Rail/bus map here: http://www.vrr.de/Uploads/Stadtlinienplaene/Mettmann.pdf
Timetable enquires here: http://www.vrr.de/en/
Just enter "Düsseldorf" / "Hbf" in from and "Mettmann" / "Schöllersheider Straße" in to, with your times of travel.
Travelforfun
04-14-06, 16:12
Thanks harvey, could'nt look for a easier route.
Any report on the place as well would be great.
Travelforfun
04-14-06, 16:35
Is there a FKK club near mettmann jus incase its a dull day there.
Sesameking, why dont you switch your partytreff choice to the Dorsten partytreff. Heavensgate is pretty much within walking distance (im guessing 15 minutes or so)?
http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/
http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/
I am going to visit Dusseldorf on the 24th and the 25th April with one mission in mind: Visiting PartyTreff Mettman.
Now from the reports i have read on the boards and from these photos it all looks pretty hot to me:
http://www.partytreff-mettmann.de/messeservice.asp
Now for my questions?
Does anyone know of a cheap hotel within walking distance (max 3 km) of this club?
Is the food enough there, should I eat before i go?
I believe they serve beer, is there a limit on this?
Now I know what to expect more or less from the reports I have read, and I have to been many Swingers clubs, FKK clubs etc, so I would like the idea of having alot of sex for a few hours and then some drinks, then maybe more sex if I can manage it.
Thankyou
Fred
Bigasslover
04-15-06, 05:08
Hotel Restaurant Am Rottgen
tel 02104-92070
www.hotelamroettgen.de
50 euro per night ,breakfast included when I stayed there in early December 05
the host is very freindly and helpful
less than 5 minutes away from the partytreff
Enjoy Wan King
Travelforfun
04-15-06, 10:29
Sesameking, why dont you switch your partytreff choice to the Dorsten partytreff. Heavensgate is pretty much within walking distance (im guessing 15 minutes or so)?
http://www.fkk-heavensgate.de/
http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/
Breadman, the places you suggest seem real good too. Can you guide me how to get to partytreff dorsten from Dusseldorf hbf .i have the weekend spare so i can try both the places on sat and sunday. Is it possible to get back late at night from the place with public transport?
What is the price structure is FKK heavengate?
SesameKing,
try this for directions by public transport http://efa.vrr.de/vrr/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en
The place seems awkward to get by public transport, not impossible though.
I was originally going to try http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/ cos of the good reports I had read. So I called the place and i got talking to an old guy with bad english, and
I asked him : How many women are present everyday? And he said " only 3 women"
Then he said "we are closed now, and open at 7 pm in the evening"
SO I told him, that I read in the website that they are open from 10 am, but he didnt seem to understand me.
Can anyone clear this up?? or maybe someone who speaks German could call the place, and find out the details. The number is +49 (0) 23 69 20 68 76
Thanks
Fred
Ps. At least when i called Partytreff Mettman, an English speaking guy was able to answer most of my questions, thats why I am going there.
Travelforfun
04-15-06, 14:10
Wan king
Thanks for the info mate , will be careful to check before i go there now.
I will be in mettmann on 29th and 30th so your first hand reports once you be there on 25th shall be most helpful.
Im the past 2 times i've been to dusseldorf , unluckily i could never go there and this time im in dusseldorf just to check out Mettmann. Lets hope its worth the wait.
Dorsten and Heavensgate seem like a good combo but i now that i know public route to Mettmann i can always combine it with my fav FKK bluenote in dusseldorf.
How far is alibaba/cocoon , wuppertal from mettmann? Any directions friends?
Wan King, I was at the Dorten partytreff in January and they had mabye 8 to 9 girls when i was there, think it was on a friday. Four out of the bunch easily high 7's or low 8's in my opinion. I was told by a couple of cute polish girls that they travel there for a week on and a week off...so if you pick the wrong week then the numbers might be off.
Im arriving at the end of May, will be hooking up with a buddy and driving to the Dolce Vita partytreff and then make a stopover at Dorsten. I'll likely check out Heavensgate first and see if its as good as Peter reported (coarse i'll be stopping in on a Monday).
The pricing at Heavensgate is really straight forward. You pay the entrance price. There is a Happy Hour entrance price of 25€. The girls get 25€ for covered FS and 35€ for BBBJ. The sessions are just 20 minutes so watch the clock. There is generally no public action and the time with the girl is often short before a jaunt to the room is suggested.
It is possible to take the train to Wulfen and walk from the station. It takes about 15 minutes walking. The train runs every hour until about 19:00. There are busses that run to Dorsten. Check the time for the last train when you get off in Wulfen. This is a very small train from a very small station. It works fine if you want to just go for the day and plan to be finished by 18:00.
I think this is probably the most value for the euro. It is basic, the food is good, the girls are very good, it can be crowded and the girls all wait to be approached. Some speak English well, some only a little and some not at all. In the summer there is a nice yard to relax in and a very small swimming pool. Downstairs, near the showers and sauna is a hot tub.
The hardest thing about this place is the difficulty in getting there. The last time I was there I rented a car and that took a lot of pressure off trying to get to the station for the hourly train. The drive is simple.
Bob
Breadman, the places you suggest seem real good too. Can you guide me how to get to partytreff dorsten from Dusseldorf hbf .i have the weekend spare so i can try both the places on sat and sunday. Is it possible to get back late at night from the place with public transport?
What is the price structure is FKK heavengate?
You can also stay at the local motel that if im not mistaken was about a 10 minute ride away (buddy drove so dont quote me on this). Coarse, you'd have to find the hotel and check in...and then find a ride to the club(s).
It is basic, the food is good, the girls are very good, it can be crowded and the girls all wait to be approached. Some speak English well, some only a little and some not at all. In the summer there is a nice yard to relax in and a very small swimming pool. Downstairs, near the showers and sauna is a hot tub.
Bob, do you have any idea how many girls usually work this club on an early weekday...did you visit closer to the weekend than a weekday?? And did you visit early or later in the day? (I plan on checking it out when they open). About their rates, would you know what the hourly rate would be?
Cocoon has the same pricing structure...25€/35€ for 20 minutes, gives me just the right amount of time to 'try out' the talent without risking too much cash on a bad choice. 40 minutes is only 50€ with cbj or 60€ with bbbj...if the girls very good i'll keep her for another 20 minutes. When i visited the girls never forced the issue about adding on the extra 10€ for bbbj, although i usually took that option.
Breadman,
I stayed in Marl at the Golden Tulip one time. They had a very good weekend rate and it is a very nice hotel. The drive is about 15 minutes to Heavensgate and it is easy to navigate. I did this with a hire car so it was easy to get around. The train runs from Dorsten so I guess you could look for a hotel there. DB has a good hotel search engine on their web site.
The number of girls has always been on the positive side of the ledger. It doesn't seem to make much difference between weekday and weekend. Sometimes the good ones are busy and you have to keep an eye out and pounce when they come back in the waiting room. I have been there mostly during the day and was impressed with the numbers. There is a second shift to comes in the afternoon.
As far as the hourly rate is concerned, they just add the 20 minute blocks together. So one hour would be 3x25€ or 3x35€. I went 40 minutes one time and it was just a simple 2x rate.
Hope this helps you. Have a nice time.
Bob
You can also stay at the local motel that if im not mistaken was about a 10 minute ride away (buddy drove so dont quote me on this). Coarse, you'd have to find the hotel and check in...and then find a ride to the club(s).
Bob, do you have any idea how many girls usually work this club on an early weekday...did you visit closer to the weekend than a weekday?? And did you visit early or later in the day? (I plan on checking it out when they open). About their rates, would you know what the hourly rate would be?
Cocoon has the same pricing structure...25€/35€ for 20 minutes, gives me just the right amount of time to 'try out' the talent without risking too much cash on a bad choice. 40 minutes is only 50€ with cbj or 60€ with bbbj...if the girls very good i'll keep her for another 20 minutes. When i visited the girls never forced the issue about adding on the extra 10€ for bbbj, although i usually took that option.
Wan King,
Mettman is a great club and I am a definate fan, having said that Monday and Tuesday are quite days (not only for Mettman). I have gone on a Monday a couple of months ago and there were only three women and a few men there. No comparison to the action that you will get on a Saturday for example. I don't know how flexible your itinery is but if you can manage a visit on a Saturday I would strongly recommend it.
They do serve food and drink. Mettman and Neandertahl (yes it's the place where they found the bones) are small towns, finding a hotel room could be difficult. The train from Dusseldorf doesn't take too long and it's a five minute taxi ride from the station to the club.
Xavier Yves
04-17-06, 17:46
The pricing at Heavensgate is really straight forward. You pay the entrance price. There is a Happy Hour entrance price of 25€. The girls get 25€ for covered FS and 35€ for BBBJ. The sessions are just 20 minutes so watch the clock. There is generally no public action and the time with the girl is often short before a jaunt to the room is suggested.
It is possible to take the train to Wulfen and walk from the station. It takes about 15 minutes walking. The train runs every hour until about 19:00. There are busses that run to Dorsten. Check the time for the last train when you get off in Wulfen. This is a very small train from a very small station. It works fine if you want to just go for the day and plan to be finished by 18:00.
I think this is probably the most value for the euro. It is basic, the food is good, the girls are very good, it can be crowded and the girls all wait to be approached. Some speak English well, some only a little and some not at all. In the summer there is a nice yard to relax in and a very small swimming pool. Downstairs, near the showers and sauna is a hot tub.
The hardest thing about this place is the difficulty in getting there. The last time I was there I rented a car and that took a lot of pressure off trying to get to the station for the hourly train. The drive is simple.
BobIf the pricing is exactly like this, it really should be the most value for money. Some FKK provide entrance fee promotion from €20-€30 but with limitied hourse of stay.
By the way, are there any FKKs near Aachen area?
Xavier Yves
04-17-06, 17:50
Wan King,
Mettman is a great club and I am a definate fan, having said that Monday and Tuesday are quite days (not only for Mettman). I have gone on a Monday a couple of months ago and there were only three women and a few men there. No comparison to the action that you will get on a Saturday for example. I don't know how flexible your itinery is but if you can manage a visit on a Saturday I would strongly recommend it.
They do serve food and drink. Mettman and Neandertahl (yes it's the place where they found the bones) are small towns, finding a hotel room could be difficult. The train from Dusseldorf doesn't take too long and it's a five minute taxi ride from the station to the club.Well, my first impression for Mettman club is their staff are kind of cold due to some emails exchange. the person who responded my email seems very impatient.
But anyway, since everybody says this is a good one to try out. Should seek some possiblities to visit it.
Britpop, good point about visiting early in the week. Didnt think to ask about that. Im visiting partytreff DolceVita on a Sunday and then the Dorsten partytreff club on a Monday (with a stopover first at Heavensgate). Does anyone know how many girls that might be around on those days??
Britpop, thanks mate, but im stuck with my days, so ill have to make the best of it. Fuck it , if there only one bird and 0 blokes, ill be happy at this stage :D
I know this may sound like a really stupid question but:
There is a morning party in Mettman from 10am-4pm and an evening party from 5pm-12am.
If I go to the morning party, do i have to leave at 4 pm , and then come back and pay again for the 5 pm party?? Or can i stay all day??????
Anyone???
Xavier Yves
04-18-06, 16:30
Britpop, thanks mate, but im stuck with my days, so ill have to make the best of it. Fuck it , if there only one bird and 0 blokes, ill be happy at this stage :D
I know this may sound like a really stupid question but:
There is a morning party in Mettman from 10am-4pm and an evening party from 5pm-12am.
If I go to the morning party, do i have to leave at 4 pm , and then come back and pay again for the 5 pm party?? Or can i stay all day?
Anyone???There are two seperated parties at Mettman? oups, I assumed we pay €100 and can stay there all the time.
Just called Partytreff Mettmann again to find out about the day and night parties.
So this guy with ok English said that from 10 am to 4 pm, you pay 80 euros and you can stay for a maximum of 3 hours. So if u arrive at 10 am u need to leave at 1 am, and if you arrive at 12pm you need to leave at 3pm he said. 3 women will be present. He didnt seem to understand when i asked about staying for the full 6 hours.
Then the evening party runs from 5pm till 12am, and he said its 100 euro for the full 7 hours. He said that in the early part of the week there would 3 to 4 women present and at the weekend there could be 6 or 7 women.
YOU CANNOT pay in the morning and stay all day, like in an FKK club.
So it probably will be pretty quiet when i get there next Monday and Tuesday.
Anyway cant wait to find out. Expect a very detailed report when i return.
Here is a partytreff in Wuppertal, that I have not seen reviewed anywhere
http://www.skyribar.de/
any info guys?
WK,
I have tried Skyribar once. 100Euro entrance, the place was shabby but the people friendly. Service and quality of the women was nowhere near Mettman. I left after one of the women said that she had stopped shooting up the week before. NOT recommended.
There are a quite a few FKK's in the Dusseldorf area which you could be interested in. Pick up a copy of the Express newspaper when you are there and you will find many listed.
Don't forget Beverly in Soligen Burg is not a million miles away.
Thanks for that advice mate.
Im suprised there isnt more said about the Dolce Vita partytreff and also the Dorsten partytreff. At DV there where at least 4 out of the 9 id consider solid 8's...one was almost a 10 in my book. At Dorsten id say out of the 8 working, 3 got solid 8's and one was a 9. Ive been in the hobby for many, many years now...mainly in Canada...so i know my rating system ;-)
Never been to Mettman, my buddy tried to talk me into going but the pictures on the website just dont do it for me. Can someone provide some info on what the girls look like? If they dont have at least 40% of the talent being both young and attractive id have to pass.
Never been to Mettman, my buddy tried to talk me into going but the pictures on the website just dont do it for me. Can someone provide some info on what the girls look like? If they dont have at least 40% of the talent being both young and attractive id have to pass.
There is no comparaison between Dorsten, Wagendorf and the Partytreff further south; Mettmann has no beauty to offer but sometimes it reminds the orgies of our gran-granfarher in Pompei!
If you are looking for beautiful girls keep to the north; PT Muenster is also an opportunity.
Travelforfun
04-21-06, 15:06
Will the clubs be open on 1st of May. I have no meetings and i plan to spend my time mongering.
Any info of hotel's near Partytreff Dorsten or FKK Heavensgate?
My plans have changed again.
I have decided to "Hell with poverty". I am heading to Dusseldorf in the morning.
i hope to hit Mettmann, Beverly, FKK cocoon, and sauna Blue Note over the next four days. Still not sure which order though. PM me if anyone is around. I cant wait !!!
Expect a very long and detailed report when i get back.
i was thinking of hitting Beverly on the Sunday night. But Sorcerer reckons its shit on a sunday night.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=378151&postcount=511
Anyone else got an opinion?? will there be some hired in women there on a Sunday night?? i thought the hired in women were there every night.
I am interested in knowing how you compare the Party Treff v the FKK scene. They seem to generally accomplish the same thing but the FKK would have more options. Let us know the number of SP at each place and generally how they would be on various days of the week. The pay once and play all day seems to be a nice option. However, the all day appears to be more like about four hours. Let us know how this works for you.
Bob
i was thinking of hitting Beverly on the Sunday night. But Sorcerer reckons its shit on a sunday night.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=378151&postcount=511
Anyone else got an opinion?? will there be some hired in women there on a Sunday night?? i thought the hired in women were there every night.
Sundays at Beverly are really bad. No "hired girls." It is possible to get some action, but you will spend most of the night watching others. I prefer in order:
Saturday, Friday, Wednesday.
FKK is a guarantee - mostly young paid women. So if you like sex with beautiful women who are on the clock FKK is for you. But you will pay for each action.
Partytreff is generally ordinary looking women but as much sex as you can stand. Partytreff sex tends to be more "public"
Thanks Sorcerer, looks like ill skip Beverly. Sunday night is the only night that suits me, but Im not going to pay 100 euro if Im not guaranteed sex.
Will the clubs be open on 1st of May. I have no meetings and i plan to spend my time mongering.
Any info of hotel's near Partytreff Dorsten or FKK Heavensgate?
We stayed at Hotel Haus Schuermann last time up...and this time around once again. There's another hotel around there but we couldnt find it but drove past this one...so stayed there instead.
Well I went to Partytreff Mettman last night.
Man it was incredible. I had sex with all 6 women there. 3 were ok and 3 were mingers.
it was great fun honry fun but more "Carry on film" than "Eyes wide shut" , ill write a very detailed report when I get home.
Tempted to go again today but I found out that the 3 women working are all mingers, so ill skip.
Xavier Yves
04-23-06, 14:50
Im suprised there isnt more said about the Dolce Vita partytreff and also the Dorsten partytreff. At DV there where at least 4 out of the 9 id consider solid 8's...one was almost a 10 in my book. At Dorsten id say out of the 8 working, 3 got solid 8's and one was a 9. Ive been in the hobby for many, many years now...mainly in Canada...so i know my rating system ;-)
Never been to Mettman, my buddy tried to talk me into going but the pictures on the website just dont do it for me. Can someone provide some info on what the girls look like? If they dont have at least 40% of the talent being both young and attractive id have to pass.ON 22nd April, there war a party at Partytreff dorsten. Anyway was there? The price was 125Euros, deserve it?
Also, anybody can share more information about partytreff-muenster? Their girls are really stunning! but not sure they present each night and don't know their timing and pricing structure
Xavier Yves
04-23-06, 17:04
My plans have changed again.
I have decided to "Hell with poverty". I am heading to Dusseldorf in the morning.
i hope to hit Mettmann, Beverly, FKK cocoon, and sauna Blue Note over the next four days. Still not sure which order though. PM me if anyone is around. I cant wait !!!
Expect a very long and detailed report when i get back.
why did you choose blut note?
http://www.saunabluenote.de/
anything special? seems their entrance fee is above the average
and what's the Beverly? a swinger club or partytreff? I cann't find its website. Do you have a one? Thanks a lot in advance.
I think this is it. Site is in German.
http://www.beverly2000.net/
Directions below are quoted from Sorcerer's 12/22/05 post on this thread:
Beverly is easy to get to from Dusseldorf without a GPS. Follow these directions. This was may be more miles (km) but very easy and fast becasue it is all Autobahn.
Take A3 south towards Frankfurt to the A1. Take the A1 north until exit 96 - Wermelskirchen. Follow the Wermelskirchen exit - stay to the left each time there is an option. Finally at the "T" go left and follow this curvy road all the way to the bottom of a big hill. Beverly is on your left.
Enjoy ...
Sounds like partytreff means you pay only once when you enter, but there are really 3 different types of club.
First there are swinger clubs, like Beverly, that might hire some professionals, but at least most of the women are unpaid. Lots of the sex is one on one or trios.
Second there are the orgy clubs, like X-Treff, Dorsten, or maybe Onasbrucke, where everyone gets on a bed and mixes it up together. There can be one on one, two on one, three on three, or whatever. The girls are all paid. I'm not sure if Mettman is in this category or the first one.
Third there are clubs where the girls are all paid, but there is little or no group sex. You go to a room with the girls just like in an FKK. The only difference is that you pay one fee instead of paying per session. I think Dolce Vita is like this.
Is this right?
Xavier Yves
04-24-06, 10:20
In my opinion, I think Partytreff and swinger club belong to totally different concept.
I had a look on some reviews about Beverly. It seems great but I don't understand why we spent so much time and efforts on this. Swinger clubs are everywhere in Europe and in my opinion somewhere around Mediterranean is the real heaven. Besides, if really necessary to talk about swinger club, we should open new post. But seems nothing about swinger in ISG so far.
And I assume that gangbang or one on one sex should be volunteered in all PTs. In UK, Belgium and France, I saw some parties that has real gangbang concept. It claims on the website how many man will be averagly for a girl. On PT's website, they will never say so.
Correct me if I'm wrong
Xavier,
Would you mind posting any of those websites?
What is a minger?
I've been to Mettmann several times.
The women aren't beauty queens (don't expect any 9s or 10s) but they make up for it in attitude. They have true group activity where if one of them is working on a guy and her ass is up in the air, you can feel free to start poking away at her.
They don't even turn around to see who it is.
All activities are done safely with protection.
I was once there and watching this guy finger some woman from behind, I felt like I just had to have her so I ask him if its okay to substitute my dick for his finger and he gladly backs out. I go right in and she is just amazing.
Where else on the planet would such a scenario take place? "Excuse me but can I poke at her?" "Why certainly."
Most of the women have terrific muscle control too (and I'm not talking about her biceps) and will milk you dry. I've been at this for years and its not easy to come across women who can do this so I remember who they are (there was one tall German blonde at the now defunct Atlantis who surprised me while I was coming - its always a treat as compared to the normal experience).
They allow Gesichtsbesamung (facials), Koerperbesamung (coming on her body), and Fransoezisch total (in the mouth but without swallowing).
All for one all-inclusive price.
And the food is genuinely edible and hot.
Staff is super friendly, will gladly take newcomers and show you around.
You can break away for one-on-one activity but the most activity is on one large communal bed.
What is a minger?
Minger = British slang term for an extremely unattractive person, usually a woman.
Xavier Yves
04-25-06, 17:06
Xavier,
Would you mind posting any of those websites?
you mean the website for gangbang party?
Hereby is one for UK
www.sacredroseparties.co.uk
For France and Belgium, the're more personal, for example, a msn space which has long history and high reputation in Bruxelles.
http://groups.msn.com/ISABELLELIBERTINE/_homepage.msnw?
Xavier Yves
04-25-06, 17:08
They allow Gesichtsbesamung (facials), Koerperbesamung (coming on her body), and Fransoezisch total (in the mouth but without swallowing).
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This is always the question I want to ask. They really accept this? CIF (cum in Face), COB (cum on body) CIM (cum in mouth)? even in a group sex? You might cum on other guys' bodies. hehe
Xavier,
Yes, that is what I meant. Thanks. Now I can answer one of yours.
Well, ok I've been to Mettmann once but didn't see what I liked so I didn't stay. Yeah, they let me look before deciding. They were really nice about it when I said I wasn't staying. But I was at X-treff which is also a gangbang club so I can talk about that. Some nights the girls wouldn't allow cim period. Other nights it was wild. I remember one girl not bad taking a porn style cim, getting it all over her face, dripping out of her mouth, and as soon as he was done she turned and started blowing me without cleaning up, just like a porno video. Yow! Too bad X-treff has been ruined. Next time I'm in Germany I'm going to try one of these new places, new to me anyway, like Dorsten or Osnabruck.
"They allow Gesichtsbesamung (facials), Koerperbesamung (coming on her body), and Fransoezisch total (in the mouth but without swallowing)."
Yes, they really do allow this. They do have lots of towels handy to wipe down with and if the Koeperbesamung gets messy, they get up to wash up before getting back into the action.
Its interesting to watch the rythmn of the activity. Someone takes one of the women into the back room, other guys follow to watch.. then the other women get into it and randomly walk the room looking for partners and then the whole mattress is full of thrusting bodies.. and then the earlier participants wear themselves out and are replaced by a second wave.. and then it stops when everyone is satisfied.
A short break for food or drink.. and then it starts up again..
There is some one-on-one activity in the room towards the front but otherwise all of the group activity is in the bedroom with the platform bed in the back.
There is a couch by the way in that room so you can just sit there and watch.. you will eventually be dragged onto the bed though as the waves of men are satisfied.
This is not for the shy or reserved.
I've been to Dorsten, Wagenfeld, Osnabrueck and Muenster as well.
My quick two cents: avoid Muenster (there are too few women, they aren't that great visually and they parcel out their services).
Its just not as freewheeling as at Dorsten and Wagenfeld where the women walk around asking: "Hast du Lust dazu?".. and hard to believe, most of the guys who are way too tired have to say no.
Where else in the world does that happen? Naked or near naked women asking if you want to do it.. and you have to say no because you are way too tired to get it up again.
Visit Osnabrueck only if you are in the area. I wasn't blown away by the selection here.
My two top picks for PTs are Dorsten and Wagenfeld in that order.
There was a time with La Bedo and Blue Note in Duesseldorf had Pauschalpreis parties too. Pay one price, do as much as you want during a specified period of time.
These were out in the open on a large mattress and were lots of fun. My first experiences with sex out in the open with spectators. You get used to it.
They've discontinued them though.
report is in the Photo Gallery section or click here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=458017&postcount=50
Now having been to Mettmann im really hooked on the Partytreff idea. My next target, probably in May is PT Dorsten.
Can someone please tell me the following.
What facilities does it have?
Sauna?
Garden?
Whirlpool? is it a proper Jacuzzi style whirlpool something like in the photo or just a bath like in Mettman? (i love to relax in a proper jacuzzi after sex)
what is the food like?
is it just snacks and bread and soup?
or is there a proper buffet style dinner?
How many girls on a week day??
The Reason I am asking these questions is that I might like to spend 2 or 3 whole days there. And knowing exactly what facilites they have would be a help.
thanks
Fred
Should mention that at Dolce Vita you walk into a nice large room with a huge circle bed covered in leather, can easily seat 5 or 6 'couples' going at it...or 4 guys and 10 girls (depending). Off that large room is the bar (supposably a two drink max...if you want more just wait till a girl takes over the bar), connected to the bar is the large tv room (showing sports) with about 4 couchs and a couple of large chairs (again, all leather). Off this room is the food setup area with a couple of basic tables with stools...leading off this is the extra rooms (maybe 4 rooms, no doors) and a shower area...reconnecting to the large room. Right after you re-enter is a hidden area with a chain 'swing' type setup where either you or the lady can try out that type of activity. You can also go down to the sauna area (leading outdoors) or into the indoor pool area. Basically, there's enough places to get some 'alone time'...hopefully with a hotty of coarse.
Dorsten Partytreff...you walk into this place and the first thing you see is the spiraling staircase. All the action takes place upstairs, showers are downstairs. On the main floor is the kitchen, beer tap (yes, keg system...all you can drink) food buffet area and several couch's together by some strange 'leg' chairs and a stripper pole. Right outside is a hot tub and a small outdoor seating area (covered). Looks like a large house/appartment in back so no outdoor activity like possible at Dolce Vita. Action upstairs takes place in one large room on one large bed (special chair in the corner) and a smaller room with room for two couples and maybe a third on the top section.
Did i miss anything Jackyo??
Where else in the world does that happen? Naked or near naked women asking if you want to do it.. and you have to say no because you are way too tired to get it up again.
I think I managed around 13 tries (stopped counting after 8 though) on our trip, did count the 10 minute bbbj at dorsten while sitting in the 'chair' by that hot blonde though... And wouldnt you know it, coming back in three weeks to do it all over again ;-)
Great report. Would you know the best Klub near Oberhausen? I've heard a lot about Heavesngate (FKK), but want to try the public aspect of this mongering activity.
Suggestions?
Europe74
This is a list of the women who I have met there.
Iris - blonde, large tits, a few tatoos and piercings
Petra - blonde, thin, tall (at least 5' 10")
Sylvia - The Sylvia who is part of the pair with Peter, dark haired, tanned, thin, small tits, amazing muscle control
Sabine - full size (das heisst, not petite but at least 5'8"), dark haired, nice figure and legs
Monika - brown hair, fairly plump, one of the few who preferred to do one-on-ones, speaks Dialekt (which I find funny)
Katja - kind of similar to Monika in built
Akasha - blonde, thin, she speaks English with an English accent
As I've said before, they aren't beauty queens but their level of enthusiasm can't be beat, all are very friendly and accomodating.
And so long as you can get it up, you will be serviced.
I have always left this club smiling (again, assuming you have no inhibitions about going at it in a room full of strangers).
All are German, by the way, which helps a lot because at least I can communicate with them - some of the women at the clubs don't speak a single word of Hoch Deutsch and you can barely get across what you want from them.
Wan King,
When are your plans to Dorsten, I may be in the area in May (11,12,13??). Have you been yet? Love your Showboat report from the other board.
Europe 74
Now having been to Mettmann im really hooked on the Partytreff idea. My next target, probably in May is PT Dorsten.
Can someone please tell me the following.
What facilities does it have?
Sauna?
Garden?
Whirlpool? is it a proper Jacuzzi style whirlpool something like in the photo or just a bath like in Mettman? (i love to relax in a proper jacuzzi after sex)
what is the food like?
is it just snacks and bread and soup?
or is there a proper buffet style dinner?
How many girls on a week day??
The Reason I am asking these questions is that I might like to spend 2 or 3 whole days there. And knowing exactly what facilites they have would be a help.
thanks
Fred
europe,
havent been yet, but i think it will be june or july when i get there at this stage
cheers
Fred
http://www.swingerclub-gourmet.de/index.htm
Has anyone ever been here?? Apparently its only 5 mins from Frankfurt airport.
http://www.swingerclub-gourmet.de/index.htm
Has anyone ever been here?? Apparently its only 5 mins from Frankfurt airport.No address on website.. just says no longer in Morrfelden Walldorf, and asks you to phone for address. I phoned. Lady asked if I wanted to come tonight. No later in the week I sadi. Asked me to phone back same day to get address.
Could be promising otherwise. Price decent enough to ensure that there must be some service.
Hi Wanking,
Been there. Small place, few people except on weekends. Nice people but very little sex going on. Not recommended.
Has anyone been to the Fashion-Privatparty in Bonn-Hersel (~20km S of Cologne) http://fashion-privatparty.de/ ?
The format is PT/swing club where only solo men pay. Open nightly from 8 pm (20oo). They claim: no professionals.
This place used to be my favorite, but things change and me and my buddies would appreaciate an update. Ambience, action, quality of females, policies, prices ect.
PM or post.
I plan to be in dorsten area from 14th - 19th June. I will hit Partytreff Dorsten.
Here are my plans:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=463095&postcount=49
I was in Frankfurt on Thursday the 12th. I called the number to get the address. The number on the website is a mobile phone. A guy answered. He spoke fluent english. I asked for the address, he asked if I wanted to come by tonight, I said yes. He said impossible for him to give me directions right now because he was way too busy with the people he had right now. I could hear a lot of people in the background. Not the sound of an orgy, more lke a crowded bar or restaurant.
The time I called was about 8:PM, two hours into "Fuck My Wife" Thursday.
I flew out of Frankfurt Friday morning.
Kaare Olsen
05-24-06, 11:37
I am planing to visit the treff-club, Treff 118, www.treff-118.de
Do anyone have any experiance with this club?
The lady I spoke with told me they have 3-4 singel girls and that is mostly young people coming to the club.
Best regards, O. Hansen
I am planing to visit the treff-club, Treff 118, www.treff-118.de
Do anyone have any experiance with this club?
The lady I spoke with told me they have 3-4 singel girls and that is mostly young people coming to the club.
Best regards, O. Hansen
You have to correct the URL to treff-188!
There is no good reports on all these GB evening clubs in Frankfurt area.
Basically, they all run on a 100~125 euro for a all-you-can-fuck 4 hour session with 2~4 eastern girls. M/F ratio is typically 4 to 1.
Less bad reports are on the Mainz club: www.spritzehaus112.de/
For real partytreff, you have to drive 100 miles north to Cologne, Ruhr or Ostwestphallen.
To be diplomatic about these places that offer a buffet for an all in price - they are an aquired taste. The women are usually older or nothing in the way of looks and the sessions are reminiscent of wagons being shunted around a railway goods yard. The ones in the Frankfurt area are simply not worth it. The chance of you turning up on a day when things are going well is minimal. The experience is more likely to cure you of mongering than turn you on.
To be diplomatic about these places that offer a buffet for an all in price - they are an aquired taste. The women are usually older or nothing in the way of looks and the sessions are reminiscent of wagons being shunted around a railway goods yard. The ones in the Frankfurt area are simply not worth it. The chance of you turning up on a day when things are going well is minimal. The experience is more likely to cure you of mongering than turn you on.
I agree with Marlow. Its definitely an acquired taste.
I went to PT Mettmann a couple of times last year, was there again on Thursday of last week. Its a long story but I had a very bad experience at Cocoon (I'll write about this later) and wanted a sure thing.
There were four women, one of whom I'd not met before. During the whole evening, there weren't more than a dozen men there in total - one could get as much as one wanted so long as one could get it up.
I was with Akasha a couple of times (she's funny, speaks English with an English accent), with Moni, Iris and Kira.
The highlight of the evening was an amateur couple showing up. He had a towel wrapped around him. She had on underwear and appeared a bit nervous at first. She was not bad looking, nice figure, nice face.
All eyes were on her to figure out what she was going to do as she was the best looking woman in the room.
A session starts up and everyone goes into the front room (which has been renovated, by the way). Iris goes down on the man of the amateur couple. Pretty soon, his partner takes off everything.
Now one of the single men in the sidelines happens to position himself very well and goes down right between her legs. She starts to enjoy it. Then he makes a motion with her to come with him into the second room (the really dark one) and off they go.
The rest of the guys in the room think she'll be taking on all of us and we all follow. Wrong! They draw a gate closed and he has her for the next hour or so.
We all go back to the bar disappointed. We walk by there every now and then but it seems that they aren't inviting anyone else.
Pretty soon, her partner goes into the room, the other guy leaves and they have their privacy.
This was the highlight of the evening.
Everyone was nice and friendly. If you sat alone on the couches near the bar, someone would ask you to come and join them.
It will be a while before I return to this club though as I've met the entire team there and variety is important to me.
Definitely an acquired taste.
I'll be in DUS next week and plan a PT session. I've been to Mettman many times and Beverly, of course. I'm thinking of trying out Dorsten. SHould I instead of Mettman or Beverly (it's a Tuesday night, bi- nite at Bev; not my cup of tea.)
Thanks 4 ur expert opinions.
I'll be in DUS next week and plan a PT session. I've been to Mettman many times and Beverly, of course. I'm thinking of trying out Dorsten. SHould I instead of Mettman or Beverly (it's a Tuesday night, bi- nite at Bev; not my cup of tea.)
Thanks 4 ur expert opinions.
I would strongly recommend Dorsten but the M/F ratio may be disappointing as tuesday is the day for rebate (89E). Some germans customers do not appreciate that turkish patrons share their polnish prays.
If you do not mind driving you can also go to Muenster or even Wagendorf's Dolce Vita.
If you are an "optik ficker", you may stay in DU and check the Pegasus; at 120 euro the 3 hour evening it is significantly more expensive but the girls are really beautiful and yet very cooperative.
I agree with Marlow that some PT do not have the best looking girls; however these four clubs have real lookers and the ambiance is unique.
I'll be in DUS next week and plan a PT session. I've been to Mettman many times and Beverly, of course. I'm thinking of trying out Dorsten. SHould I instead of Mettman or Beverly (it's a Tuesday night, bi- nite at Bev; not my cup of tea.)
Thanks 4 ur expert opinions.
I recommend Dorsten. I also recommend Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld.
Do not do Dorsten on a Tuesday or Saturday when they have reduced pricing. Then its total voll besetzt.
You will find them roughly equivalent though there is more one-on-one activity at Wagenfeld (you take her by the hand and can do her in one of the "private" rooms). I say "private" because their rooms don't have doors and anyone walking by can see you.
I don't recommend PT Muenster and PT Osnabrueck. There are a) fewer women, b) you get the sense that its being parceled out (you can't really do multiple sessions as often you want and with whom you want - you will find that they don't come around offering it up the same way that they do at the other two clubs above).
At Dorsten and at Wagenfeld the women will walk around a roomful of guys asking if they want some ("Hast du Lust dazu?") and you actually will see guys saying no because they are too tired. Where else does this happen on the planet?
You will have fun at Mettmann but don't set your expectations too high. I have never been to Beverly.
Bigasslover
05-27-06, 20:29
The fashion privatparty has been recommended here before. fashion-privatparty.de
I plan to vist the above July 27th Thu and or 28th Fri. I understand it is in Bonn-Hesrsel. I will be flying into and out of the Bonn-Cologne airport.
Would you recommend staying in Hersel? Bonn? Cologne?
What are the logistics of public transportation?
Any other partytreff, swingclubs in the Cologne area ?
Thanks!
Jackyo, Mufu,
Thanks both for your answers. Too bad that you both dissed Dorsten on a Tuesday night, because I wanted to try that out.
I've been to Pegasus before the new ownership and once since and found it much less user-friendly, but then I haven't been there in a while. Has it gotten better?
I've also been to Mettman and know what to expect and I haven't heard good things about Muenster. Wagenfeld is almost 200 km from Dusseldorf, so it's not really an option.
Is Dorsten that bad on a Tues. nite just because of the 10 Euro discount?
There is a new partytreff in Xanten. Not far away from the dutch german border between Oberhausen and Arnheim. The entrance fee is €99,99. It is nice to go there the girls are not very beautiful but also not ugly. Nice place to go. see the website www.partytreff-xanten.de
No address on website.. just says no longer in Morrfelden Walldorf, and asks you to phone for address. I phoned. Lady asked if I wanted to come tonight. No later in the week I sadi. Asked me to phone back same day to get address.
Could be promising otherwise. Price decent enough to ensure that there must be some service.I was looking for something different from the FKK during my layover. I called the phone number and the owner answered and said that anytime after 2PM was fine. I found a cab, had the cabbie call for directions and off I went. The building is about 15 minutes or 30 Euro from the airport. You get to the front door (had to call to make sure I was at the right front door) and get buzzed in.
You give the lady 80 Euro (the price changes depending on the day) and you change your clothes in a tiny dressing room down to your shorts and tshirt. You then go into the bar area. This afternoon there was 1 woman (aside from the owners wife I guess) and 3 other guys sitting at the bar smoking, drinking (booze and drinks are included) and chatting. Everyone was quite friendly and made an attempt at chatting in english.
Eventually the girl and one guy got up and went to the play room. The girl grabbed me on the way in. She had a cute face but was quite chubby. We went into the play room where she started a CBJ on me and the other guy while we played with her. We took turns DATY and FS until done. During that time other guys wandered in and out and eventually a couple other guys started in with her as I was finishing.
After we were all done with that session it was back to the bar for a rest - then, you guessed it, we all did it again. Pretty boring.
I did get to talk with the owner who said that friday night typically has about 30 people with a number of couples who are there to swing. Maybe I will try a friday one day but frankly I think I will stay with the FKK for now.
Xavier Yves
06-02-06, 07:07
Do not do Dorsten on a Tuesday or Saturday when they have reduced pricing. Then its total voll besetzt.
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Are you sure they have a reduced pricing on Sat as well? I don't see it from their webpage.
The fashion privatparty has been recommended here before. fashion-privatparty.de
I plan to vist the above July 27th Thu and or 28th Fri. I understand it is in Bonn-Hesrsel. I will be flying into and out of the Bonn-Cologne airport.
Would you recommend staying in Hersel? Bonn? Cologne?
What are the logistics of public transportation?
Any other partytreff, swingclubs in the Cologne area ?
Thanks!U-16 light rail runs from Hersel to Bonn and Cologne. BN is closer. Hersel has few facilities. So stay in BN or ask the club to let you crash on the premises. You get one ticket good for 2 nights usually, or a 'raincheck' if you did not like the action. Make sure to call for invitation and directions. Phone Nr at fashion-privatparty.de but their English is limited.
There are other Partytreffs in the area, but this one is my fave. The others follow a bar/pub/houseparty format. This one is like a small FKK club (pool, sauna ect) with REAL swinging couples and women.
I'd rent a small camper (cost 50-100 Eu, same a s mid size car).
I'll be back in CGN after June 22nd if you want a guide/interpretor.
Are you sure they have a reduced pricing on Sat as well? I don't see it from their webpage.
I was speaking to a couple of the regulars when I was there in January and this is what they told me.
There was a guy there who says he lives nearby and drops in on the club once a week. He even explained how the girls got paid.
Funny but he had no idea that Heavensgate even existed though its within a stone's throw of the PT. I talk to the other guys in these clubs and its interesting how this happens a lot - they typically don't know what the other alternatives are.
He even explained how the girls got paid.
SO Jackyo, how do the girls get paid?
SO Jackyo, how do the girls get paid?
According these guys I talked to they get a flat rate per additional guest, something like 10 euros per head.
So here is how it works: the club charges 100 and if there are 8 girls working, the owner has to set aside 80 to pay his team.
What remains is the owners and he uses it to pay for the food, utilities, drinks, etc..
The rule though is: if a customer complains even once about a girl, she's out of there.
When they have reduced pricing such as on Tuesdays and Saturdays, the owner makes less per customer because there are more women. There are, of course, also more customers so somehow he does better bottomline-wise.
The girls explained to me that they spend a month or two working, then drive back to Poland where they take a month or two off before returning.
Actually a guy in Mettman told me that there, the owner and the girls split the revenue. So the girls divide the 50% between them.
Are you sure they have a reduced pricing on Sat as well? I don't see it from their webpage.
XY,
You are right. There is no reduced pricing on Saturdays. They have a Megaparty and they actually charge 125 Euros.
The club on these party days is full of customers, I've been told, and its better to go on a day when they are a) not having a Megaparty, b) not offering reduced pricing.
I would like a lot to find a place where there are more mossibilities to have a look of two girls doing true sex themselves and later to partecipate too. Where do you suggest me to go to enjoy?
Thank you for yr help
Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
I am sorry but believe me, I was not writing in that way, I do not know how is happened.
Enjoy
Well, despite jackyo and Mufu dissing on Dorsten Tues. night, some German mongers highly recommended it, so I though that I'd try it.
The Tuesday night 88 Euro special brought in about 20 guys. But there were 11 women, and there was never a time when a guy had to hold his *** and wait. I don't know if those numbers are usual are not, but on the night that I was there, the SP-customer ratio was terrific.
Great vibes, nice place, constant action from 7:30 p.m. when I arrived until midnight, and as previously reported here there were actually times when the women were asking the men to come on the bed and guys were turning them down as being too "nackered".
Women range from so-so to hot bodies, 2 Cubans, 3 Polish, one Russian, the rest I believe were German, but each and every one is a sex machine whose only purpose is to get you off to completion using any possible means.
Great times had by all, and at 88 Euro for 6 pops and all of the soft drinks that you can hold, this has to be one of the all time great mongering values.
Definitely a winner and thanks to the other members here who brought it to our attention.
Xavier Yves
06-04-06, 12:39
The club on these party days is full of customers, I've been told, and its better to go on a day when they are a) not having a Megaparty, b) not offering reduced pricing.
But from Wang King's report, the Sat evening is highly recommended since other dates (such as Sun) are too slow
Xavier,
my report was about PT Mettman, which is a very different place to PT Dorsten.
the reason that saturday is recommended for Mettman is that you are almost guaranteed some good looking women, cos they have 7. But on all other days they only have 3-4 women and they are often the ugly ones. (well thats what a regular told me)
fred
Isseu, sorry for the wrong recommendation!
The moral is that you had a good time and i was punished since on the same day I was very disappointed in Westerwald.
Partytreff Westerwald is to my knowledge the oldest club with the partytreff concept. That's why I went there with Indiana john's mind of archeologic adventure. At 120 euro, the price is very steep but when it is for the sake of universal knowledge..
Three girls were present but only one was young enough to be in the trade; the other two should have retired. They were chatting in the salon about anything and sessions were just incidental. a young guy who came after me was told that he did abuse last time and that the number of sessions is limited to THREE.
There are a lot of places where you can get the same service for free or even be offered the dinner by ladies of the same generation. This one is to be avoided by all means!
Xavier Yves
06-13-06, 17:54
The club on these party days is full of customers, I've been told, and its better to go on a day when they are a) not having a Megaparty, b) not offering reduced pricing.
I still don't get why megaparty is not recommended. What's the difference between Megaparty and the events on other days (except Tue)?
How many girls ususally are presented on normal days (I mean except Tue and Sat) ?
From the website, I see them charge 100€ on normal days? Is that correct?
I still don't get why megaparty is not recommended. What's the difference between Megaparty and the events on other days (except Tue)?
How many girls ususally are presented on normal days (I mean except Tue and Sat) ?
From the website, I see them charge 100€ on normal days? Is that correct?
I was having a conversation with a regular there and he did not recommend going on those days because there are more customers and it becomes very crowded (at least according to him).
On a normal day there are from seven to eight women working there.
Yes, the entry fee on a normal day is 100 Euros.
During a Megaparty they charge more but also have more girls.
One other thing I've been told is that if you go towards the end of the month you will do better than at the beginning of the month. Customers have more disposable income at the beginning of the month and will do more club visits than towards the end of the month when they are waiting for their next paycheck to replenish their bank accounts.
Xavier,
I was there on a Tues. night and while there where more men than on a normal weeknight, there were also more girls, and as I wrote, there was never any downtime. Those beds were always being bounced on. So based on personal experience, not a 2nd hand opinion, Tues. night at PT Dorsten, if you're not shy, is great value.
In a net cafe in Dorsten now,
I spent 2 whole days in PT dorsten and it was fantastic. I sucked, fucked, and licked 11 women over the 2 days, some several times, loads of 2/3 somes. Endless and limitles sex.
overall club rating: 11/10
Taking a break today, but Im going to the big sat party tomorrow.
Big report when I get home
Fred
Ps. several amusing things happened in the club, and here is one:
I fucked this girl day one, and she French kissed. So I fucked her again last night, and she would not kiss. When I asked her why she says
"I am sorry, but I see u lick the bottom of nearly every girl today, you know where girl shit from"
I giggled at the response.
Wan King, can you provide the location and hours of the net cafe in Dorsten for those planning on visiting?
Wan King, can you provide the location and hours of the net cafe in Dorsten for those planning on visiting?
We were at one there in January, Breadman.
Find the Deutsche Bank in the center of town. There is a nearby church in an open area.
One of the store fronts facing the church is an Internet cafe.
"I am sorry, but I see u lick the bottom of nearly every girl today, you know where girl shit from"
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Wan King, of course we don't want to think about that when fucking, but she is damn right. Yes, not only does she kiss a mouth that just licked another ass or pussy, but did you realize you also may kiss a mouth that still has the taste of another dude's dick?
I love to DFK. I noticed during my last FKK tour an unusual amount of girls that warned me upfront not to kiss or that tried to avoid it during the session (especially in Prague, but not only). About 50% of the girls didn't want to kiss at first. But half of it agreed later during the session when they got more confident and noticed I had good hygiene. So I still managed to get 75% of sessions with DFK. This is reason enough to take care for good hygiene: shower after each session, brush teeth after each meal and rince mouth with antiseptic water after each session.
For the first time, I followed a mongering doctor's advice during this FKK tour. I took each 6 hours multivitamin and rinced my mouth after each session with antiseptic water. Not only could this help to prevent against minor STD like Chlamydia, but for the first time ever I came back from an FKK tour without flu or cold. Also as Shiatsu wrote earlier, any serious mongerer should considerer Hep A and B vaccination. And of course use condom for each vaginal or anal penetration. But who is stupid enough not to know this? ;)
And of course, have fun!
Routard
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Wan King, of course we don't want to think about that when fucking, but she is damn right. Yes, not only does she kiss a mouth that just licked another ass or pussy, but did you realize you also may kiss a mouth that still has the taste of another dude's dick?
Routard
If the girls aren't in the room, they typically walk you to the exit at Wiago and give you a goodbye kiss when you leave.
I was there once, paid my bill and was on my way out.
By some weird timing, one of the girls I was with had just stood up to take the dude she had gone down on on the couch into the room.
They call her name to announce one of her customers (me) is leaving.
She comes to me and plants a big wet one on my mouth.
I walk down the stairs and just then it occurs to me: just seconds ago she had that same mouth wrapped around some dudes dick.
Oh well.. these things happen.
Xavier Yves
06-19-06, 16:25
I was in PT dorsten as well. thank you for all infos shared.
However, according to my experiecen and what I observed, I noticed that most of sex are finised too soon. Normally girls won't allow you to have multiple positions (2-3 maximum) and if you last too long, another girl will come to you and help you to cum with hands.
Does somebody have the same feeling?
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For the first time, I followed a mongering doctor's advice during this FKK tour. I took each 6 hours multivitamin and rinced my mouth after each session with antiseptic water.
Routard
I do this, out of sheer paranoia. However after my last World trip I got tonsillitis.
My doctor told me that the antiseptic mouth washes and all the tooth brushing I can do are absolutely useless against tonsil problems and all the major STD's.
Ah well.
Fucking Hell !!!!
Just back from my 6 days of FKk and PT sex. Did 4 full days in PT dorsten, man i am in love with that place. I went on the saturday and it rocks, definitly worth the extra €25. Between a few women in heavens gate, and all the ones I did in the PT, I say I had nearly 20 women in the six days.
Anyway a detailed report in the next day or two.
.Wan King, of course we don't want to think about that when fucking, but she is damn right. Yes, not only does she kiss a mouth that just licked another ass or pussy, but did you realize you also may kiss a mouth that still has the taste of another dude's dick?
Oh im sure I smelt cock breath off some of the girls i kissed. What the hell !!!
I was in PT dorsten as well. thank you for all infos shared.
Xavier when were you there?
We were at one there in January, Breadman.
Find the Deutsche Bank in the center of town. There is a nearby church in an open area.
One of the store fronts facing the church is an Internet cafe.
Thats the one i was in I think. Dunno name or address
Fucking Hell !!!!
Just back from my 6 days of FKk and PT sex. Did 4 full days in PT dorsten, man i am in love with that place. I went on the saturday and it rocks, definitly worth the extra €25. Between a few women in heavens gate, and all the ones I did in the PT, I say I had nearly 20 women in the six days.
Anyway a detailed report in the next day or two.
Wow!
The thought alone makes me want to drop everything and hop the first plane to get there.
Just wondering: Did the lineup of women change significantly from day to day?
I did PT Wagenfeld twice on a trip but visited other clubs for the four or five days in between. The lineup stayed probably 80% the same.
I understand that Polish women at PT Dorsten work two weeks in a row, take two weeks of and then are back on for two weeks.
Jackyo,
just finishing the longest report i have ever wrote. the line up did change form day to day. i believe you are right about the 2 weeks and 2 weeks off. infact I got talking to a regular who told me all about the business side of the club and ill write another report about that soon too.
just finishing the longest report i have ever wrote. infact I got talking to a regular who told me all about the business side of the club and ill write another report about that soon too.
We can't wait to read your report.
Routard
Note: In a partytreff club, you have sex in a group environment, often with other guys looking directly at you. If you feel that you would be incapable of doing this, then this type of club may not be for you.
Ever since I was a horny, spotty teenager 20 years ago, I have fantasised about spending complete days having sex with groups of really sexy women, and last week that fantasy became true. Partytreff Dorsten is a really special place and in this article I will try to describe the place and my fantastic experiences. I spent 4 delicious days there: Wed 14th, Thurs 15th, Sat 17th, and Mon 19th June 2006, so please read on:
1) Pros/cons
2) Basics
3) How to get there
4) Where to stay
5) How the club works
6) Layout and facilities
7) Food and Beverages
8) Atmosphere
9) The Girls
10) The Sex I had there
11) Conclusion
1) PROS: Limitless sex with horny young Polish girls. Girls appear to be Nymphomaniacs as they constantly flash their vaginas in the bar and garden.
BBBJ and DATY are standard. Limitless Beer. Outstanding value for €100.
Sex is in front of everyone else.
NOT HAVING TO WATCH THE CLOCK LIKE IN AN FKK
CONS: Very few really. Some girls rush a little. Only a few girls do DFK. No CIM or ANAL. Sex is in front of everyone else.
2) BASICS
Name: Partytreff Dorsten
Address: Beckenkamp 22, Gewerbegebiet Beckenkamp, Dorsten-Wulfen
Tel: 0 23 69 20 89 83
Web: http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/ (website is out of date and really doesn’t do the club or its facilities justice)
Opening hours: Sun – Thurs: 10am –12pm
Fri : 10am – 1am
Sat: 12pm – 3am
Price: €100 for an all-exclusive entry(normally 8 women are present). €125 on Saturday when 4 to 7 extra women are present.
Alcohol: Limitless draught beer only
3) HOW TO GET THERE
From the Dusseldorf airport I took a total of 3 trains.
Train 1: From airport to Essen (35 mins)
Train 2: Essen to Dorsten (30 mins)
Train 3: Dorsten to Wulfen (8 mins)
The club is about 1.5 km walk from here. There were no taxis present at Wulfen station.
4) WHERE TO STAY
Near the club there are two options:
a) Hotel Humbert
Burghof 2
Tel. 02369-4109
http://www.hotel-humbert.de/
1.5km from the club
Hotel Pic (http://******************/?p=125)
b) Hotel Haus Schürmann
Dülmener Str. 163
Tel. 02369-4277
1 km from the club
I stayed in Hotel Humbert for several reasons. The owner speaks is a nice guy who speaks excellent English, Its only 3 minutes walk from the train station, and its in the centre of Wulfen, near shops and restaurants. There are three pizzerias within 200 meters!!! It is an excellent hotel for $35 per night, and this type of room would cost well over €100 in a big city. When I rang Hotel Haus Schürmann nobody spoke English, and I see from the map that it is in the countryside most likely away from shops etc.
Wulfen is a small pretty town, 7 km from Dorsten, hence they call it Dorsten Wulfen. Still it has some decent fast food joints, Pizzerias, and shops. There is a big Globus department store about 500 km from the Partytreff. Schmell and Lecker is an excellent little fast food restaurant on Dülmener Strasse selling terrific Cheese Burgers, Fries and Schnitzel. Some Dorsten and Wulfen pics can be found here (http://******************/?p=125).
5) HOW THE CLUB WORKS:
In this club, you pay a fixed price of €100 (€125 on Sat) and you can have unlimited all day sex but its in front of other people. Generally you will have sex with one to three girls at a time, but most often some other men will be standing nearby watching. There is no one on one action in a private room like in an FKK club, although there is a more intimate “cook house” type structure in the garden where you may manage some one on one time with a girl, but there are windows that people can look in. Normally 8 women are present all day expect on Saturday when up to 15 women can be in attendance. The women spend about 75% of their time on their backs, and the other 25% relaxing downstairs in the bar area. Sex normally takes place in two rooms upstairs. One room has a bed big enough to take about 15 people. The bed in the smaller room can take around 8 people at a squash. Men are free to watch the action, and it is against the rules to complain about having someone watch you, but remember that the men are most likely watching the girl and not you. The girls wear lingerie or bikinis when relaxing, and the customers wear a provided towel, and generally not black underwear that is the norm in Swingers clubs. The girls will offer themselves to the guys standing around when they have finished with their previous clients assuming they don’t go for a break. You can also book a girl for a session when she relaxing downstairs. There is always a manger and a barmaid present everyday. I saw 2 different managers, a plump woman of about 35, and big tall tough looking Bosnian guy around 40 years old. Both were very friendly, and the guy looked like he could handle trouble if happened. Also there are always some security men hanging around the house next door that accommodates the girls.
6) LAYOUT AND FACILITIES
The club is located in a small industrial estate, just outside the town of Wulfen. There are two large houses within the confines of the club, the club itself and the girl’s accommodation, which has the club offices behind it. You are buzzed in through a gate, and then met at the front door by the manager, who takes your money and gives you towels and a locker key. You then give your key to the manger who then takes your name. On the ground floor is the bar and relaxation area. The bar has space for about 5 people to sit in front of it. Opposite the bar is the buffet area. Then is an area with some arms chairs and a large wrap around sofa, which is opposite a rear projection TV, which shows mainly sport. There is also a dancing pole that doesn’t seem to get used anymore. Beyond this room is a smaller room that leads to the Garden, and there is a dining table here that the girls mainly use when eating. There is a toilet on each floor, and two showers in the basement. There is also a men’s shower upstairs. In the basement are the lockers and another entrance to the Garden. On the first floor are the two fucking rooms, a men’s toilet/shower, and two more bathrooms for the girls.
The Garden (http://******************/?p=135) is a nice surprise and should be featured on the club website. It contains a sunning area to the side, a sauna, a very nice 5 seater Jacuzzi made by Jacuzzi, a covered in seating area, and a sort of “cook house sauna” type construction that you can fuck in. They have two permanent barbecue ovens that were used for the Saturday party. The fishpond is dirty and has some dying looking fish in it. Coincidently FKK Heavens gate 1 km away has a very similar pond. But the biggest attraction in the garden is the old Football game, you know the one where players stand at either side and turn a series of handles to move the ball along. This game is amazingly popular with the girls and they get really into it, and often play a game between sessions. It’s nice to see that they have a hobby apart from sucking cock!!
7) FOOD AND BEVERAGES
The food is a reasonable affair. It’s certainly not like the extensive buffet of FKK Palace, but what is provided is easily enough to keep someone going all day. From 10 am to about 4 pm they have bread rolls, salami, and cheese. Then there is a buffet style dinner, two days it was Spaghetti Bolognese, and another day it was a chicken and rice dish (the chicken ran out well before the rice). Then on the Saturday there was the barbecue that ran for about 4 hours. There was pork chops, big German sausages the size of John Holmes cock (the girls were cracking some jokes about the sausages), and chicken fillets, along with various salads and breads. In all cases the dinner was very tasty, and I was pleasantly surprised. After the dinner they replenish the rolls, cheese and cold meat until the club closes. So there is always some sort of food available. On the Thursday there were some desserts, which according to the Manager are provided on days when “the Boss feels generous”. The girls and staff also eat the same food.
The only alcohol available is draught beer, but they also have bottled available if the keg runs out. This beer varies in quality depending on how full the keg is, and it is also a little warm. It is served in small 250ml glasses. Most guys drive to the club and don’t drink much beer. I drank around 10 glasses of beer most days there. After that it is Coke, Fanta, Mineral Water, Orange Juice, Tea or Coffee.
8) ATHMOSPHERE
The atmosphere is very laid back in this club. In the garden and bar area the vibe is really relaxing. The cliental for the most part were very friendly, and I did not come across (ha ha pun) anyone offensive or threatening. The guys ranged in age from about 25 to 70, with majority being under 40. I found plenty of nice guys willing to practise their English with me, and I only met one other foreign guy. He was a guy from England who travels to Germany on Business a lot. Upstairs the atmosphere was pretty sexual, but not as serious as people who have never been often assume these parties are. There were also a few funny moments:
When England were playing Trinidad and Tobago, there was a long shot of Victoria Beckham in the audience, and one guy muttered something which drew some laughs. I asked a guy to translate:
“He say that we should bring this Victoria Beckhams to this club and everyman gang bang her without condoms”
Another was a guys theory about male Turkish sexuality. There were a good few Turkish guys in attendance in the club, and I noticed how quickly they cum, and finish their sessions. I was talking to a local guy about this, and he said
“It is part of Turkish culture for the man to cum very fast. It is seen as a sign of great weakness If they cannot cum in under 5 minutes. Thousands of Turkish men commit suicide every year cos they cum slowly!!” okay its probably bollox but I thought it was funny.
The last funny bit was something one of the girls said. I had fucked this girl on day one, and she French kissed. So I fucked her again on the Thursday night, and she would not kiss. When I asked her why she says
"I am sorry, but I see u lick the bottom of nearly every girl today, you know where girl shit from" I giggled at the response.
9) THE GIRLS
Most of the girls are Polish, and a different line up appears everyday in the club. There was only one other girl who was German. She was a tall think blonde of about 30. At first I didn’t fancy her, but she really grew on me. I think her name is Nikki, and she has the softest skin, and one of the wettest pussies I have ever come across.
She also has a lovely soft little bottom, and really velvety asshole, that I licked for a long time. I met about 20 Polish girls in total, and had some sort of sex with 18 of them. All were young, mostly under 25, and had a sort of “Sexy girl next door” look. These girls are not at all sophisticated, and some had very cheap looking polish hairstyles, and most were wearing very minimal makeup which was nice.
They ranged between 4 to 8 for looks, and 6 to 9 for performance. I was highly attracted to about 8 of the girls, and found all the rest expect two to be fuckable if not overly so. All had completely shaved and very clean pussies. They also all had natural breasts, and no fake tit jobs were evident. Only two girls had big tits, but most had a nice handful. Only one girl had almost non-existent tits, but she made up for it with a great ass. About half the girls are slightly overweight the way I like them. English speaking girls amounted to two, and speaking some German or Polish would be an advantage, although I did fine with my limited verbal communication. The girls go for a wash after each session.
There was one girl who models herself on the singer Pink (http://******************/?p=138), and she does look a bit like her, and sort of had that same aggressive manner that the singer possesses, and a similar hairstyle. Well she was great until I discovered all these skin tags on her pussy, and between her ass cheeks. Skin tags are a harmless condition and I have some myself, but they are a turn off in a woman’s sexual area.
A lovely girl that stands out because she was the only one that was there all four days when I was there was this girl Michelle. She always seemed so friendly, and she is really pretty, with big blue eyes and brown hair tied back. This girl worked really hard to give a great service to all guys, and always enthusiastic and smiling.
Another great thing about the girls is the amount of time they spend flashing pussies while relaxing in the garden or in the bar. Most wear little skirts and no knickers, and they often cross their legs “Sharon Stone Basic Instinct” style or some just sit with their legs open while casually taking to each other or whatever. It is a major horny sight.
Because of the way these girls flash their vaginas, and because of how hard they fuck, I really believe that some of them are really into sex, and enjoy being fucked. Some of these girls easily perform sexual acts with up to 20 men per day. Although they do relax more when the male manager is off duty. They seem afraid of him, but not afraid of the female manager. I certainly don’t get the impression that they are in any way forced into this work.
10) THE SEX I HAD THERE
Ok, I was there for four days out of my 6 day vacation. I was there from 1pm to 12am on Wednesday, 11 am to 12am on Thursday, 4pm to 3 am on Saturday, and 11am to 5pm on Monday. Over 40 hours total. I was with 18 different women in that time, and some girls I was with several times. I had 13 cums, but I only had actual intercourse about 9 times. I preformed DATY about 30 times! And I received at least 20 BBBJs and loads of hand jobs. I had a lot of 3 somes, and even some 4 somes. I also spent a lot of time just lying there making out like a teenager, or giving girls back massages. Out of my 40 hours, I spent about 15 hours in some sort of sexual situation, and another 10 hours standing around watching the action. The remaining time was spent downstairs eating, drinking or socialising, or in the Garden, or watching football.
Having sex here is very different to a normal brothel. You don’t have to just play it out the normal way you might in an FKK club. i.e. She does oral on you, you do oral on her, and then you have intercourse. In this partytreff you can take a girl and just lie around kissing her for a while. Or you can have two women, and maybe lick one of them while the other gives you a BBBJ. Or you can take a girl and bend her over and lick her bottom if you want, and then go and have intercourse with another girl. Almost whatever you think of can be made possible.
Two of my more memorable situations were, after fucking one lovely girl I just wanted to lick some pussy. I didn’t feel like fucking anymore I just wanted to lick. So I licked 3 girls out, one after the other, about 20 minutes with each girl. While I was licking those girls, they were giving other guys BBBJS. Nice Eh? Then another time I was lying on my back while one girl was giving me a BBBJ, and another was sitting on my face. I was then fingering both of the girls who were on either side of me, giving guys BJs. This actually lasted for a minute until one of the girls I was fingering mounted her guy for a fuck. Normally the group activity doesn’t happen that much and not all girls are into it, but if you push for it, some will girls go for it. Generally speaking though in this club, its one guy and one/two/three girls at one time.
If the club is quiet you will get two or three women once. And if you start with one woman, then another will often join when she becomes free. Now the girls do have a sort of default plan in place, and that is to get the guy lying on his back and they do all the work to get him to cum fast. But if you want to do things differently you just have to let the girls know and they will go along with you. Sometimes if you are just spending a long time licking them or whatever, they may express a desire to take a break, and then you just wait for her to come back, or even better go and take another girl!!!
The performances of the girls obviously all vary. All do DATY and BBBJ. Only about 30% allow kissing and fingering. I encountered two girls who let me finger their anus. And strangely enough, two girls would not let me lick their anuses. CIM is total no no, and Anal also seems to be a no no.
11) CONCLUSION
This is the best sex club I have ever been to in my near twenty years of mongering. It’s just the sheer amount of sex with attractive young women that really does it for me. And some of the women really seem horny, constantly flashing their pussies in the lounge and garden. The memories I have accumulated will keep me masturbating for years to come (ha ha pun). I will be making a return trip in the next 6 weeks or so. Awesome value for €100
Overall club Rating: 11/10
Here are some photos of the club and the garden (http://******************/?p=135)
Sergeant Major
06-21-06, 15:59
wan king this is the one of the best reports I've read on this forum, thank you for that, I can't keep myself to go there. definetly next week I'll be there. It seem it really worths 100€,
this report could be your masters degree thesis.
I'll write my opinons when I got back.
Wan King, you are the King!
Excellent report, as usual. I's allready in the report of distinction. I have never done partytreff before, mainly because for the small amount of time I'm in Germany I prefer not to take any risk and head for the top FKK. I was ready to try it during my last FKK tour as I had more time than usual, but I was with FKK virgin pals I introduced into the FKK scene. Partytreff is not exactly the best club to start with! But after reading your report, I'm sure that my next club to visit will be Partytreff Dorsten!
One question however. It has been told that the girls in partytreff, for example in Mettmann are way less attractive than in regular FKK. What is your opinion about it? Are the girls more beautiful in Dorsten than in Mettman, and as pretty as in other FKK?
Routard
Thanks for the compliments guys.
Routard,
the women in Dorsten are way more beautiful than in Mettman. They are mostly young Polish girls under 25, and many are up to a good FKK standard.(they also work in an FKK club see below)
The mettman women are mostly worn out old slags over 40 years of age.
Despite the fact that they are both Partytreff clubs, they are quite different and run differently. Dorsten is a more commercial enterprise, and the girls are full time professional prostitutes, also they cannot refuse any clients, and must do DATY and BBBJ. Its all one on one action and there is little gang bang activity. It does NOT really resemble a swingers club.
Mettmann is more like a swingers club. Of course most of the women are hired in, but the club attracts more some genuine swinging couples. The Mettmann girls seem to be more voluntary, and are under no obligation to have sex with all clients. There have been reports where girls have refused guys. They also can do whatever services they want. Mettman also attracts an older cliental, and has more regulars who tend to socialise more than the Dorsten guys. The Mettmann girls spend more time at the bar than they do on their backs.
Also the owners of both clubs are much different, Dorsten is owned by a serious guy that also owns an FKK club called FKK xstasia in Münster, or so I was told by two people. (I cant find any info on this FKK xstasia btw)
While Mettmann is owned by a kind of hippie type guy, who is very laid back.
Dick Rambone
06-21-06, 21:00
Wan King,
Great report! I am going on my first FKK tour in November and after reading your report a visit to Dorsten is a must. I like the fact that most girls will do it with you and if there are not to many guys you can get two or three at a time. I would not like to hang around a club where you could be denied for whatever reason. Another plus is that they all do DATY and BBBJ. I will most likely due some FKK clubs and Dorsten.
Dick
During my four days in this amazing PT, I was curious about how the business works, and I was talking to several local guys about this, but the most informed seemed to be this accountant who has been a regular for 2 years and he says knows the boss. (I saw him and the boss chatting). Note: This accountant does NOT work for this company
A German guy owns the club, and is in his early 40’s. I was told his name but I forget it. He is about 175cm, bit of a belly and has sort of distinct looking grey hair, and has a thin grey mustache . He also has this fabulous young Polish girlfriend called Patricia. She is about 23, tall, slim, and blonde. And Beautiful isn’t the word for her; man she has the most gorgeous face I have ever seen. A serious 11/10. Although I am not that gone on her body, just too skinny even though she has had a boob job. Anyway she was a former hooker, who he took off the game and made his girlfriend. She now gets to cruise around him, in his new V12 Mercedes SL, while wearing designer clothes and sunglasses. She is the complete and utter envy of the other girls, with her expensive hair and makeup.
Apparently he owns the Partytreff and an FKK in Münster called FKK Xstasia, (I cant find any info on it). There is a stable of about 40-50 Polish girls that live in the building beside the Partytreff, and in a similar building beside the FKK. The girls alternate between the Partytreff and the FKK on a daily basis. Apart from Saturday, there are only 8 girls in the Partytreff, and maybe 15-20 in the FKK. Then a good few girls are back in Poland on their two weeks off. The accountant said the girls work 2 or 3 weeks and then go back to Poland for 2 weeks. The company sends a car or minibus to Poland on a weekly basis, both picking up and dropping off girls at some chosen point, just over the Polish border. The girls all tend to be from that part of Poland. At any one time, there are usually one or two girls sick with colds, flus, periods, headaches etc.
The accountant went on to say, that many of the girls like working for this guy, cos they don’t have to pay any money out, even when working in the FKK. They get their accommodation, food, transport to and from Poland all paid for. This is unlike the scenario in most FKKs where girls must pay per day or week to work in the club and then maybe rent a flat somewhere as well. The Polish hate paying out money and feel much better when they can just save. They are also love going to the Globus hyper market, which is only 500 meters from the partytreff before the club opens in the morning, cos stuff is quite cheap there.
The €100 euro entry fee is broken down this way. The girls get 40%, it takes 25% to cover club expenses including staff wages and the company nets 35%. There is an average of 40 guys per day during week, and up to 50 on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The average guy stays 3-4 hours, and cums twice. So at one time, there are only 10-15 guys in the club, and only half of those will be having sex at any one time. So that’s why there is no problem getting a free woman at almost any time. The weekly turnover of the club is about €30-35k per week, with the company netting over €10k per week. The girls make an average of €150-€200 per day in the Partytreff, and probably less in the FKK. But the account reckons most girls are making €1000+ per week, and that the German taxman is seeing fuckall of it. The girls are able to go back to Poland with €3 - 4k every 3 weeks, and they seem happy with that. He thinks many girls are supporting whole families back in Poland.
BTW one girl told me that she prefers to be fucking in the Partytreff, rather than sitting around in the FKK for hours on end sometimes. She said the day passes much quicker in the Partytreff.
With one on one sex with just one woman, I have always performed well, but it wasn’t always been that way in front of a crowd of people.
I can now finally say that I am almost fully into having sex in front of others. Although I still find it harder to cum when there is a crowd looking on. I find public sex much easier when everybody else is doing it, rather than standing looking at me. Being on a bed full of women is a major turn on, and I think I will miss all the extra women, when I have my next one on one, with just one girl.
But it wasn’t always this way. The first time I ever encountered any group sex was in the Paradise club, Amsterdam in 1995, when I was 25. I thought I would be into it but it really freaked me out. It was Thursday gang bang night and I can clearly remember the 3 women running the gang bang. I remember trying to get involved with one of the women and I just couldn’t get hard with all the guys standing around. I went back to the hotel that night depressed, and just reckoned swinging and group sex wasn’t for me.
My next episode, was in some Swingers clubs in Sydney in 1997. They had hired in gang bang women like in the Paradise club, and during those visits, I would get hard then go soft, then go hard again. I couldn’t cum infront of the crowd though.
Anyway between 97 and 2005, I have been to different swingers and gangbangs here and there, and things were much the same. Hard then go soft, then go hard again.
Then last year back in Oct 2005, I had a great session with a swinging woman in the showboat in Amsterdam, and I finally came in front of the crowd. I felt a great relief.
It had taken ten years, and now I could do it. I was a real man and it felt great.
So now it comes (ha ha pun) pretty natural, but I am still conscious of the other guys, and at times I found myself going a bit soft in PT Dorsten, but straight away I would bury my face in a vagina or anus, and I would regain my hard straight away again. Sometimes when someone laughs its easy to assume they are laughing at you, but usually they are laughing at something else.
Anyway, in Partytreffs or Swingers clubs, people would rarely comment on your performance, and if you feel guys are looking at you, remember they are usually looking at the girl you are with. I did see some guys who couldn’t get it up in PT Dorsten but most guys didn’t have problems.
According the one guy I was talking to, it’s a small minority of mongerers who go to Swingers and Partytreffs. The majority of guys out there in the world would have problems getting hard infront of a crowd. But I think its something you can get used to with time.
Excellent stuff again about your public sex experience. My public sex experience has only been in FKK so far. I usually try to avoid it, not because I feel uncomfortable with it, but because I don't want to bother anybody with it. When it happens, in kino, in the garden or when I need to share a big room with other people, it's no big deal, I don't even feel that others are looking. I have to say that usually people who are watching in FKK tend to do it in a very discrete way. Yes, both lookers and performers seem to be respectfull for others. Is public sex in Partytreff different than in FKK?
Is public sex in Partytreff different than in FKK?
Yeah, guys stand very close and really look intensely at the action. Much different to FKK. Some real voyeurs here who just come to look, and some serious perverts ( I felt right at home :D)
The girls are able to go back to Poland with €3 - 4k every 3 weeks, and they seem happy with that. He thinks many girls are supporting whole families back in Poland.
Absolutely, you can support five families with this kind of money in Poland. Average wage in Poland: €300/month.
Alkmar Punter
06-22-06, 07:43
Anyway, in Partytreffs or Swingers clubs, people would rarely comment on your performance, and if you feel guys are looking at you, remember they are usually looking at the girl you are with. I did see some guys who couldn’t get it up in PT Dorsten but most guys didn’t have problems.
According the one guy I was talking to, it’s a small minority of mongerers who go to Swingers and Partytreffs. The majority of guys out there in the world would have problems getting hard infront of a crowd. But I think its something you can get used to with time.I'm sure that the partytreff open sex thing is a next step for most FKK mongerers - if the crew is attractive it definitely must be thrilling!
Considering the price, a total at appr. 100 , must be a menace to the more conventional clubs, and it also clearly indicates how many many (Polish) women must be available in Germany.
Frankfurter
06-22-06, 11:58
Wan King,
This was excellent info, and a delight to read, which made me horny and change my travel plans and visit Dorsten for the first time next Tuesday, 06/27. (They seem to run a "special" that day, only 88 Euros.) If anyone wants to join.
A German guy owns the club, and is in his early 40’s. I was told his name but I forget it. He is about 175cm, bit of a belly and has sort of distinct looking grey hair, and has a thin grey mustache . He also has this fabulous young Polish girlfriend called Patricia. She is about 23, tall, slim, and blonde. And Beautiful isn’t the word for her; man she has the most gorgeous face I have ever seen. A serious 11/10. Although I am not that gone on her body, just too skinny even though she has had a boob job. Anyway she was a former hooker, who he took off the game and made his girlfriend. She now gets to cruise around him, in his new V12 Mercedes SL, while wearing designer clothes and sunglasses. She is the complete and utter envy of the other girls, with her expensive hair and makeup.
And we don't envy the girl, but the club owner. ;)
It's also interesting to read the business view of an account on an FKK or Partytreff. Excellent stuff.
Frankfurter,
The Tuesday is supposed to be the worst day to go, way too many men apparently, ( i forgot to mention that in my report) but it has been mentioned on the board before. Also 2 guys I was talking to there mentioned it aswell.
Id advise you to try a different day if you can, but if you cant you will still get pussy, you just might have to wait longer for it.
Anyway make sure to write a few lines here after your visit,
Fred.
PS I also forgot to mention that the girls clean your cock with a baby wipe before every session!! It actually feels very nice, and I just might start using them at home !!!
"I am sorry, but I see u lick the bottom of nearly every girl today, you know where girl shit from" I giggled at the response.
Sounds like they got to concentrate on the wrong body part...... LOL
Xavier Yves
06-22-06, 18:15
Xavier when were you there?
I was there on Friday, so it's a pitty I didn't meet you, man.
Your report is excellent. I strongly agree with you regarding the atomesphere and sex point of view. However, for girls, only few speaks Englishi that disappointed me. On the other hand, it's true that you can spent unlimited timing to licking the girls or playing some sex games, but I found most of girls rushed when you started having sex with them, 2-3 positions maximum for 10 mins, and they will let you laid down to mastrube you to cum. Of course you can deny and they won't argue too much, but not so comfortable with this kind of feeling.
Xavier Yves
06-22-06, 18:20
wan king,
alothout you were not there on Sunday, do you think it would be a good day to go there? I mean after Sat, probablly girls are tired. Also maybe there will be new faces showing up. Thanks for opinions.
Xavier,
You are right that the intercourse can be rushed, and again this is something I forgot to mention. In my 4 days i was talking to many local guys, and one young guy had a big cock, and he said that the girls dont like to have sex with him for too long at a time. But then there was this older guy, a nice old fella of around 60 who goes to the club about twice a week and has a needle dick, and he was fucking the girls for ages at a time. I saw him do girls missonary for almost an hour.
So it all comes down to pain obviously, the girls dont want a big cock pounding into them all night, while a needle dick is no problem.
Xavier, you must be a big boy!!!
Also being a regular helps. I noticed my service improving as the days went on a bit.
Sunday should be fine, it will be mostly different girls from sat.
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