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Cebu Local
10-15-06, 03:32
"Visit the Sex Islands where there are hundreds of working girls for the picking"

Cebu local, pardon my ignorance but I have never heard of the Sex Islands.

If I am in Zhuhai in relationship to the Lovers Road cafe area, how would I get to the Sex Islands? Do I just jump in a taxi and say "sex islands",etc.

Directions and or any other info would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Hi
These are islands off the coast of Zhuhai but within City Limits that have Basic hotels and hundreds of women,Patronized mostly by Taiwanese males.You have to go a travel agency to arrange a trip to the ferry terminal then take a ferry ride to these islands,Sorry I dont have their Chinese name because My partner just calls them Sex Islands for Tourists.Ask around I am sure somebody will know Johnny Help?????

Hoeman
10-15-06, 09:25
they are reliable,i do business regularly with these people.in fact the manager has been my guest in the philippines on a familiarization tour.

yup, cl... they are very efficient. i concur that they are reliable. the visa run i did yesterday was wonderfully smooth-running. i only waited 30mins for my 6-mth biz visa (no 30-day stay restriction). i must say their service is excellent, but the visa is quite pricey for 6 mths visa - hkd1,100
(i can get the factory manager to get it done for rmb500 in dongguan, but extremely hassling and takes 3-5days, and need to go to 3 different psbs to get official stamps).
well, guess one does have to pay extra for convenience and speed.

i spent 30mins crossing the border to macau (ard 15mins on each side), then 30mins waiting for visa to be done, and another 30mins to get back into zhuhai. the visa office is open until 10pm and the lady behind the counter said that if you get in just before 10pm, they will still try to get your visa done.

oh, did ask about visa application for us citizens/passport holders here on the forum. sad to say, they dun do visas for americans here. they told me americans have to go to the china consulate in macau to get visas done.

hoeman...

* spent abt half hour checking lotus rd out, but didn't see anything i like on the menu (i was there quite early, ard 4pm). did see the inner mongolian gal i did the previous trip but she was with some customer at one of the bars with the green umbrellas...

Laowai123
10-15-06, 09:40
@ hoeman


yup, cl... they are very efficient. i concur that they are reliable. the visa run i did yesterday was wonderfully smooth-running. i only waited 30mins for my 6-mth biz visa (no 30-day stay restriction). i must say their service is excellent, but the visa is quite pricey for 6 mths visa - hkd1,100
(i can get the factory manager to get it done for rmb500 in dongguan, but extremely hassling and takes 3-5days, and need to go to 3 different psbs to get official stamps).
well, guess one does have to pay extra for convenience and speed. [...]1) http://www.jta.biz/chinavisa/china_visa.htm
2) bring your passport (with your current visa) and one photo
3) wait 6 hours
4) pay hkd 650
5) get your new cn f visa, 6 month, multiple entry

above applies only when you are not from "special countries" or from us. see website for more informations.

if you have time, meaning you stay in hk, it will be cheaper.

lw

Minkfan1
10-15-06, 10:44
Don't go there after midnight because there are some girl with pimp will hook you up with their trap...

Hi Chung,

Care to elaborate on what type of scam your are referring to?

Last time in ZH I had an LT with a gal from LHL. Horrible experience, but anyways, she called mommy on the cell phone and told her my room number. She then asked me what my last name was and I gave her a fake one.

Any advice on safety when dealing with LHL gals?

thanks

Kranky99
10-15-06, 13:24
Hi,

These are islands off the coast of Zhuhai but within City Limits that have Basic hotels and hundreds of women,Patronized mostly by Taiwanese males.You have to go a travel agency to arrange a trip to the ferry terminal then take a ferry ride to these islands,Sorry I dont have their Chinese name because My partner just calls them Sex Islands for Tourists.Ask around I am sure somebody will know Johnny Help?????I think that the island you mentioned is called 'xia chuan dao'...it is a small island a few hours ride by bus and you get to a ferry terminal for a ferry ride which takes about 30min. When you arrive on this island, you will be taken to a 'village' where all the girls that you see are available. I was there many years back and it is overun by Taiwanese. Accommodation is very simple, nothing fancy but the seafood is cheap.

It is a good experience with the thought that any woman that you see walking without any partner is available. Back then, I had three woman and it was cheap. About RMB$300.00 for the whole night, but am not sure about the price now. Been wanting to go back to this island but never manage to.

Moody
10-15-06, 16:26
Ks457,

KTV in Guangdong usually starts pretty early, especially in the smaller cities. There are lots of KTVs that open at 6:30 or so and by 8:00 or so, most of the pretty girls have already been taken. It's a little different in Shenzhen, where you can show up at most places at 9-10 and still be able to find decent girls.

Also, just FYI, when they mention the room charge, that's usually, but not always, the room minimum. For example, if room minimum is 600, if you order 500 yuan worth of stuff, you still get charged 600. If you order over 600, you get charged whatever you ordered.

One last thing, taking girls back from KTV is big time YMMV. I've had really exceptional nights with KTV girls and nights where I just wanted to get the girl out of my bed ASAP. KTV is more about hanging out with buds and getting drunk than getting laid. You almost have to consider the getting laid part as a side dish rather than the main course.

Ks457
10-15-06, 18:24
Ks457,

KTV in Guangdong usually starts pretty early, especially in the smaller cities. There are lots of KTVs that open at 6:30 or so and by 8:00 or so, most of the pretty girls have already been taken. It's a little different in Shenzhen, where you can show up at most places at 9-10 and still be able to find decent girls.

Also, just FYI, when they mention the room charge, that's usually, but not always, the room minimum. For example, if room minimum is 600, if you order 500 yuan worth of stuff, you still get charged 600. If you order over 600, you get charged whatever you ordered.

One last thing, taking girls back from KTV is big time YMMV. I've had really exceptional nights with KTV girls and nights where I just wanted to get the girl out of my bed ASAP. KTV is more about hanging out with buds and getting drunk than getting laid. You almost have to consider the getting laid part as a side dish rather than the main course.Wow, pointers from the venerable Moody! Hahaha, I'm honored. Read many of your reports on the Shenzhen thread, and I gathered a lot of information from those also that I really want to try when I visit Shenzhen (if it wasn't for the large size of Shenzhen, and what everyone at work's telling me about the crime that happens there...)

Yeah, I figured the room charge would be more if I ordered hard liquor like scotch (though fake they may be), but as I said, I'm not a big drinker and I was happy with red wine.

It was the first time going to a KTV alone for me too, and yeah, I love going with a bunch of friends, getting drunk, singing karaoke, but I've heard so much about the "mob choices" in Chinese KTVs that I just had to try even if I was alone. KTV girls being YMMV, very true. My usual MO is to enjoy the KTV girl, usually a "gold fish" then get my release at the soapie baths once the fun at the KTV is over, as number of times I've done KTV girls, both ST and LT, it just never turned out to be a good exp, unless the girl was seduced over and became a freebie. What I mean is, if I didn't make an effort to seduce/impress the KTV girl, the FJ part afterwards is usually pretty lousy. But they are lower mileage than sauna girls, I guess.

Thanks for commenting on my report, and it would kick ass if we can meet up in SZ, DG, or CP for a night of par-tay!:)

KS

Csun213
10-15-06, 19:50
"Visit the Sex Islands where there are hundreds of working girls for the picking"

Cebu local, pardon my ignorance but I have never heard of the Sex Islands.

If I am in Zhuhai in relationship to the Lovers Road cafe area, how would I get to the Sex Islands? Do I just jump in a taxi and say "sex islands",etc.

Directions and or any other info would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Just to let you know that this Island is not worth going to. I have been there once. It is about 2 hour drive from Zhu Hai, then you have to take a ferry for about 1 hour over to the island. The hotels there are very small, mostly about 10-20 rooms. There is nothing special except the girls to there to work so their family will not find out about them. The cost is the same as other places like Zhu Hai, CP and SZ. It is 200rmb for short time and 400-500 for long time. There is nothing to do except there is a beach. Used to be a great place before lot of girls coming to work in ZH, CP and SZ. Now it is just a run down place with the same as all other places, just less to do and places to eat.

Fast Eddie 48
10-16-06, 00:49
I just got back from Zhu Hai afer 4 days trip. One question it seems the price for over night has gone up in Zhu hai, the ST is still 200 for LHL. but for overnight I could not get anyone for under 1000. is the normal or did I just get ripe off. this was my experence for all 4 days. I did 4 ST for 200 and 3 overnight for 1000 on LHL. even the KTV girl in wongFu ask for 1000 for overnight. Next time i think maybe I will go and place around ShenZhen.


to therman134

You should able to get Lt for 500-600 rmb on Liu Hua rd and 200 st unless it was saturday night most girl only like to go st , Ktv girl if they are hot can get 1000 a night .

fast eddie 48

Ks457
10-16-06, 03:50
golden sands ktv- plenty of girl and take home on cost 1000rmb. service are good, gfe are great.

i had a " handicaped meal" where those 17-18old girl will feed you during your lunch. peeling prawn, feed rice to you, what u need to do is just only busy with you both hand touching their boobs. tips only 100rmb for the whole session with them taking off their bra. lunch is about 150rmb per pax.

spa with 36 style is a new thing i had tried over there. scaring stunt perform with the automatic bed. the girl will perform some acrobatic stunt by hanging on the robe just on top of the bed and gave u a blow, what a experience. the total package is 500rmb with 2 pop.

the vilage (30min from zhuhai) zhong shan is another nice place to monger where all the ktv girl didn't need to wear makeup and they are so innocent and pretty. take home only cost 800rmb with they will stay with you till the next day 12pm.wow, that "handicapped meal" sounds interesting. although i've read the entire zhu hai forum, i don't think i've heard it mention. would you mind sharing more information about the place? i.e. where is it? do you get a selection of girls? etc. that would be something i'd definitely like to try out.

thanks!

Zhuhaifan
10-16-06, 06:00
I was planning to make a trip to Macau soon, and was wondering if anyone can recommend any saunas with a good selection of Russian girls?

If this is not the right place to ask questions about Macau, I apologize.

Bob Builder
10-16-06, 07:34
Not anywhere near Zhu Hai at all. At least 2 1/2 hours away by land and sea. It is near Toi Shan. Attraction is that the gals are RMB400 LT for a full 24 hours and will literally do anything including non-sex e.g. cook, clean and wash clothes.

Just hearing that Taiwanese frequent there puts me off, 'cause if there is a country that mongers come from that overpays that is it. Tightwads in business but showoffs and overpayers mongering. Why do you think KTV in Chiang Ping is well supported and more expensive. So for all those out there that give anyone a hard time for overpaying, you should spend more time logging onto Chinese sites and giving the Taiwanese a fecking hard time, not some newbie.

Hoeman
10-16-06, 09:40
@ Hoeman

1) http://www.jta.biz/chinavisa/china_visa.htm
2) Bring your passport (with your current visa) and one photo
3) wait 6 hours
4) pay HKD 650
5) get your new CN F Visa, 6 month, multiple entry

Above applies only when you are not from "special countries" or from US. See website for more informations.

If you have time, meaning you stay in HK, it will be cheaper.

LW

Thanks for the info, LW123. I will KIV the info for future use. One reason I used the Zhuhai/Macau run was bcos it's fast. I dun warrant staying 6 hours in HK, cos I know I will spend more on hidden costs like food, taxi, some shopping, & most probably some mongering ...hahaha... Also, as you mentioned, there is the time factor, the last buses from SHZ to Dongguan are usually at 8.15pm or so. That means I have to rush back from HK. If not, then have to pay extra for hotel accomodations...

Good to know that there are available options to do visas into China. After all, the reason for this forum is to share info...
Once again, thanks very much, LW123...

Hoeman...

Laowai123
10-17-06, 01:47
@ Hoeman


Thanks for the info, LW123. I will KIV the info for future use. One reason I used the Zhuhai/Macau run was bcos it's fast. I dun warrant staying 6 hours in HK, cos I know I will spend more on hidden costs like food, taxi, some shopping, & most probably some mongering ...hahaha... Also, as you mentioned, there is the time factor, the last buses from SHZ to Dongguan are usually at 8.15pm or so. That means I have to rush back from HK. If not, then have to pay extra for hotel accomodations...The funny thing is, that these visas are issued in Zhuhai...at least my new one just few days old.

You will have trains form SHZ to DG after 8:15pm, as I live in DG (Zhangmutou) and the last train to ZMT leaves at 10:30pm. Check this site http://train.chinamor.cn.net/cztt.asp - its in chinese but easy to handle when you can read Hanzi / Chinese characters or know the one of your destinations.

LW

Zhuhaifan
10-17-06, 23:37
Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has any stories to share regarding the cuties working in those sidewalk juice bars/cafes on LHL. Has anyone been successful in hooking up with one of them? I see a lot of drop dead young cuties there, they're even cuter than most of the streetwalkers. Last time I was there I was trying to strike up a conversation with one of the cuties at a juice bar. The problem is there were 2 other guys trying to hit on her at the same time. I was able to get a picture of her (she transferred it to my cell phone). Does anyone recognize her?

Hoeman
10-18-06, 01:40
@ Hoeman

The funny thing is, that these visas are issued in Zhuhai...at least my new one just few days old.

You will have trains form SHZ to DG after 8:15pm, as I live in DG (Zhangmutou) and the last train to ZMT leaves at 10:30pm. Check this site http://train.chinamor.cn.net/cztt.asp - its in chinese but easy to handle when you can read Hanzi / Chinese characters or know the one of your destinations.

LW

LW123, the train option isn't available to me, cos I live in Humen, DG. There is no train going thru Humen (I think the nearest station is in ChangPing and that is abt 50mins away by bus.

But thanks for the site to check out the train schedule. Never know when I might need it.

Hoeman...

Seeker A
10-19-06, 15:44
Dear Bros,

I will be going to Zhuhai year end. Would anyone be kind enough to share the full phone number of any Chang-ang hotel or New World Hotel near LHL?

Stayed there earlier this yr but misplaced d namecards. Lots of thanks in advance.

Looking fwd to a good time there.

Pyro27
10-20-06, 01:13
Dear Bros,

I will be going to Zhuhai year end. Would anyone be kind enough to share the full phone number of any Chang-ang hotel or New World Hotel near LHL?

Stayed there earlier this yr but misplaced d namecards. Lots of thanks in advance.

Looking fwd to a good time there.--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Maybe you can call to elong.net and ask the phone number.

0086-10-64329999 ext.6 or 400-810-1119(Mainland China only)

Sorry but other experts in ISG will help you.

Zhuhaifan
10-20-06, 06:27
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Maybe you can call to elong.net and ask the phone number.

0086-10-64329999 ext.6 or 400-810-1119(Mainland China only)

Sorry but other experts in ISG will help you.Phone number for Changan Good World hotel:

07568880222

You might have to drop the zero when making an international call.

BTW if you get a chance you should tip the bellboy there, he's a really nice chap!

Have fun!

Ks457
10-20-06, 11:59
Dear Bros,

I will be going to Zhuhai year end. Would anyone be kind enough to share the full phone number of any Chang-ang hotel or New World Hotel near LHL?

Stayed there earlier this yr but misplaced d namecards. Lots of thanks in advance.

Looking fwd to a good time there.The number to Chang An Hotel is 0756-8118828. I don't know why you'd ask, since if you speak Putonghua well enough to converse on the phone, you can just hop on the cab once you get there and go to get a room. Chang An didn't seem like a place that you needed a reservation for, unless you really wanted a cheap, central location for a weekend mongering.

Pyro27
10-21-06, 00:30
The number to Chang An Hotel is 0756-8118828. I don't know why you'd ask, since if you speak Putonghua well enough to converse on the phone, you can just hop on the cab once you get there and go to get a room. Chang An didn't seem like a place that you needed a reservation for, unless you really wanted a cheap, central location for a weekend mongering.KS457,

I already read your great reports (It was really great! Thank you!) and know you stayed in the hotel. So do you think we don;t have to make any reservation even during weekends? If yes, I will stay in the hotel.

Thanks again.

Pyro27

Chung 2
10-21-06, 05:48
Wow, that "handicapped meal" sounds interesting. Although I've read the entire Zhu Hai forum, I don't think I've heard it mention. Would you mind sharing more information about the place? i.e. Where is it? Do you get a selection of girls? etc. That would be something I'd definitely like to try out.

Thanks!The place is somewhere near Zhong Shan, about 20 minute drive from Zhuhai, lots of factory. Yes definately you can choose the girl. need to get a tourguide for you to get there. Lots of taiwanese know the place.

Moody
10-21-06, 17:49
if it wasn't for the large size of Shenzhen, and what everyone at work's telling me about the crime that happens there...

...it would kick ass if we can meet up in SZ, DG, or CP for a night of par-tay!:)

KS

Shenzhen is like any other big city. Yes there's crime I'm sure, but it's not like the wild wild west with guys holding you up on every corner. If you take just a little care, you'll be fine. Since I've been coming here (about 3+ years now) I've never once had anything happen. The worst that has happened to me was I got ripped off by 5 yuan by a cab driver who told me he didn't have change for a hundred....

If you feel like coming out to Shenzhen and I'm here, just let me know. We can meet up and hang. I have to admit though, lately, Shenzhen has been a bit boring. Lots more fun to be had in Dongguan.

Ks457
10-21-06, 18:23
KS457,

I already read your great reports (It was really great! Thank you!) and know you stayed in the hotel. So do you think we don;t have to make any reservation even during weekends? If yes, I will stay in the hotel.

Thanks again.

Pyro27Well, I guess it nevers hurts to prepare. The two trips I went to, I did not make a reserveration and walked straight in. The first time had a single room, no problem, and it was a saturday morning. The second time, on a Friday night, they had only a double room available, and no single room available (but the double was actually 50 yuan cheaper, maybe due to weekend rates), but that may have been because there is a KTV in the hotel and they use it up for the KTV patrons going LT.

As I said, doesn't hurt to prepare and make a reservation, but ChangAn Hotel is kinda old and dingy. The rooms are okay and clean, and will serve its purposes, but definitely not 4-5 star. GD Regency up LHL (and no, I don't have the number) looked a bit more upscale. Depends on what you're willing to spend, I guess. Enjoy!

-KS

Ks457
10-21-06, 18:29
The place is somewhere near Zhong Shan, about 20 minute drive from Zhuhai, lots of factory. Yes definately you can choose the girl. need to get a tourguide for you to get there. Lots of taiwanese know the place.Hmm, so you have no other information? Like the name of the place, address, or at least the name of the guide who took you there (a one that speaks English, preferably)? I've been to Zhu Hai only a couple of times and had a good time there, and I would have no problem showing a cab driver a piece of sheet with an address to drive me to Zhong Shan, but I do not speak any Chinese, and it'll be tough for me to try to find the place without any directions.

Also sucks for me that I work in HK and do not know any taiwanese...well, at least not the ones that I can ask this kind of question to! :( Would be great if you or any senior members knowledgeable in the Zhong Shan area can post more info on this/these types of places. In all my reading of the HK/Zhu Hai/Shenzhen/DG forum, it's the first time i've read about this kind of place, and would be a nice place for me to venture out to next!

KS

Rocket12
10-21-06, 22:19
Wow, after reading Ks457's report (both of them) I feel that if I dont make a trip to Macau and Zhu Hai at least once during my time in Hong Kong I'm really going to regret it. However, unlike Ks457 I'm not gutsy enough to make a weekend trip solo (only been in Hong Kong for 1 month). Is there any fellow partakers planning a weekend thing to M and ZH that wouldn't mind a monger buddy. It would be great if I could join you on another one of your trips Ks457. Sometimes mongering is more enjoyable with a monger buddy.

Cebu Local
10-22-06, 00:00
Shenzhen is like any other big city. Yes there's crime I'm sure, but it's not like the wild wild west with guys holding you up on every corner. If you take just a little care, you'll be fine. Since I've been coming here (about 3+ years now) I've never once had anything happen. The worst that has happened to me was I got ripped off by 5 yuan by a cab driver who told me he didn't have change for a hundred....

If you feel like coming out to Shenzhen and I'm here, just let me know. We can meet up and hang. I have to admit though, lately, Shenzhen has been a bit boring. Lots more fun to be had in Dongguan.Friend,I think this is Zhuhai.

Pyro27
10-22-06, 08:29
The place is somewhere near Zhong Shan, about 20 minute drive from Zhuhai, lots of factory. Yes definately you can choose the girl. need to get a tourguide for you to get there. Lots of taiwanese know the place.Ya! It will be great dinner party. Do you think I can not find the place by my self (alone)? If no, please give is more information (place name, guide info, contact info..).

Thanks a lot.

Ks457
10-22-06, 14:05
Wow, after reading Ks457's report (both of them) I feel that if I dont make a trip to Macau and Zhu Hai at least once during my time in Hong Kong I'm really going to regret it. However, unlike Ks457 I'm not gutsy enough to make a weekend trip solo (only been in Hong Kong for 1 month). Is there any fellow partakers planning a weekend thing to M and ZH that wouldn't mind a monger buddy. It would be great if I could join you on another one of your trips Ks457. Sometimes mongering is more enjoyable with a monger buddy.Rocket12,

Thanks for your compliment. FYI, I've been in Hong Kong for only 2 1/2 months as well. (about 2 months when I went on the trip). Although I'm an Asian American, I speak all of 5 words (literally) of Cantonese and Putonghua, and I got by on that trip just purely based on the information based on this forum. As you can see from my posts, I am a newbie to the forum as well, and for all other newbies, please just RTFF. I spent maybe total of 4 1/2 hours reading the entire Zhu Hai section, another 2 hours browsing through Macau section, creating a separate word document to cut/paste any maps, information I would need, and brought only that on my trip, and I had load of fun.

While I would love to go on another Macau-Zhu Hai run, I really can't find the time to go these days, and there are many other parts of southern China that I'd like to explore as well (Shenzhen, Dongguan (Changping), Zhong Shan - if I only can find the handicapped meal place!)... so I don't know when I can go. However, for HK mongers, Macau-Zhu Hai is very convenient, if not somewhat tiring. I think going on a solo trip can be very fun, but I guess that would depend on your personality. For me, I love the sense of openness, the thrill, and the adventure when going out into the unknown (abeit well-prepared and cautious).

HK is a great starting point for mongering in S. China, and ISG is a great resource. Take the time to soak in the wealth of information provided and I am sure that you'll be well rewarded. Cheerio!

-KS

YoungBoss
10-23-06, 03:00
I took the early boat on Sat morning to Zhu Hai, arrived around 10 and went straight to LH road. All the juice bars were open but very few SWs thus choice was limited. After finishing 2 glasses of the "freshly squeezed" juice, me and my buddy went for some dim sum at a restaurant located at end of LH road. On the way to the restaurant, we were aggressively followed by two 19 year olds with looks in the 7 category but we finally not to go as we were hungry and had many other venues in agenda.

After a cheap and not so tasty lunch, we decided go for a tour of ZH Saunas. After seeing ChangAn new world, XiangJing and Jing YU(the one opposite of ChangAn new world). We decided to try Jing YU first, the line-up weren't very impressive as they had only 6 girls at round 1:oopm on a Sat afternoon. I picked a sichanesse with a decent size pair of racks. Service was thourough but a bit too mechanical. So I banged her mechanical in return. I must the room was unique with mirrors installed 360 degree but wasn't clean enough.Cost was 298

At 3:30pm, My buddy wanted to go back XiangJing as we quite liked the rooms there during our earlier check out. Again very little choice, maybe only 2 line-ups of 5 each abeit a slight improvement in looks. this time I took a Petite Anhui girl. She was very tender and polite which I like. However, because she only weighs 80 something pounds and I am about 2 twice of the her size, she had a bit problem to breath during missionary position. we did 2 rounds and she had an orgasm during the 2nd and I was poped happily. It costed us RMB328 but I had somewhat better experience.

It was 5:00pm, we decided to take a taxi to ZhongShan for an overnight stay. After checking in at The International hotel which was nice as usual, we decide to go for dinner and then check out the night club scenes. The result of the search was the See Club(or the triumph club) as it is the biggest, newest and grandest club in town. It is located right behind the Interantional Hotel with very classy disco, KTV and sauna inside. The rooms were kind of expensive of RMB 880 but were very luxury. we decided to give a try. Any way to cut the story short I met a really GFE and sexy Hebei girl there and had one of the best fuck with her(3 times during nights with 3 orgasm from her)1000 was what I paid for but was worth every penny.

BTW, during this I took 10mg of Cialis first time and worked really well on me. but I am feeling a bit tired now..:)

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Henning
10-23-06, 16:04
As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.

Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?

Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.

Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?

I arrive in HKG around 4 pm and would like to go directly to Zhuhai.

Thanks for your input.

Pute Nut
10-23-06, 21:05
As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.

Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?

Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.

Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?

I arrive in HKG around 4 pm and would like to go directly to Zhuhai.

Thanks for your input.

It's a nice hotel right on LHL. Check out the two upper cathegories of rooms. Good value, although they may require a safety deposit which is a bit above the daily rate for each day if you don't use plastic (like 400 RMB/night for a 268 RMB room)

Chung 2
10-24-06, 04:27
Ya! It will be great dinner party. Do you think I can not find the place by my self (alone)? If no, please give is more information (place name, guide info, contact info..).

Thanks a lot.Call FEI MAO (fat cat) 13112909zerozero1 once you reach there. He will guide you with the price and appointment when you are there. Just Mentioned Yang ta ge from Malaysia gave u the contact.

Ask and find out the price from him as me just met him through net last time.

Regards,

Chung 2

Fast Eddie 48
10-24-06, 21:56
[QUOTE=Henning]As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.

Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?

Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.

Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?




to henning


Jin Yu hotel is not far from the border just take the taxi 10 rmb about 8 min,
if you never have red rope before Zhu Hai is not nearly as good as Shanghai I
have try the Dragon union sauna few week ago the girl is not as experience as they were in Shanghai and the service is not as good as Dongguan area sauna .

Pyro27
10-25-06, 02:01
Call FEI MAO (fat cat) 13112909zerozero1 once you reach there. He will guide you with the price and appointment when you are there. Just Mentioned Yang ta ge from Malaysia gave u the contact.

Ask and find out the price from him as me just met him through net last time.

Regards,

Chung 2Chung 2,

Thank you for the great information.

I just tried to send PM, but your PM box was full.

I think the place will be 'Must see' place.

Does 'fat cat' speak english?

And I understand there are several good KTV near Zhong Shan. Do you know any recommended KTV?

Thank you again.

Best Regards,

Pyro27

Pyro27
10-25-06, 02:05
Well, I guess it nevers hurts to prepare. The two trips I went to, I did not make a reserveration and walked straight in. The first time had a single room, no problem, and it was a saturday morning. The second time, on a Friday night, they had only a double room available, and no single room available (but the double was actually 50 yuan cheaper, maybe due to weekend rates), but that may have been because there is a KTV in the hotel and they use it up for the KTV patrons going LT.

As I said, doesn't hurt to prepare and make a reservation, but ChangAn Hotel is kinda old and dingy. The rooms are okay and clean, and will serve its purposes, but definitely not 4-5 star. GD Regency up LHL (and no, I don't have the number) looked a bit more upscale. Depends on what you're willing to spend, I guess. Enjoy!

-KSKS,

Thank you for the fast response.

I hope we can meet and hang out together someday.

Let's enjoy party!

Best Regards,

Pyro27

Raverboy
10-25-06, 11:37
Hi all,

Planning a short 4-day trip to ZH in early November. I've read this thread back to back but have a few more questions:

1) Planning on staying at the Changan Great Aim Hotel (chang2 an1 hua2 ce4) - has anyone stayed here and can comment on the quality of rooms/service, etc.?

2) Some of my impressions on reading this thread: ST and LT can be had for approx. RMB 200/600 respectively on LHL, RMB 1000 is the norm for KTVs. Anyone with any ONS or FL experience at the discos care to comment? I'm ok with high sound volumes so I'm game to hunt this way. ;)

3) Will be travelling alone but speak Putonghua fluently and can get by on Cantonese. Are KTVs out for the single hobbyist coz I don't want to look like a dork if going to them alone isnt the norm.

Thanks!

Legal Lad
10-25-06, 20:30
Hey Raver,

KTVs are possible for the solo member, I have done it a few times, but definitely its better with a few more friends.

I'll be in zhuhai around nov 7th or so for a few days. Shoot me your snailer in a PM if you want some company. I tried to PM you, but it looks like you cant receive em.

'lad

Ace Gallant
10-25-06, 20:45
Well .... nothing much to report about. OAH, Wadman and I rode into town, met up with Wheelock, Reader123, and Johnnykon.

We headed for LHL for couple of drinks. It was not until pass 10:30pm the mamas and SWs starts to come out and pester those drinking at the green Umbrellas. We did notice a few great looking ones.

It was kind of interesting that there were 6 ISG members ploughing down LHL looking for pussies. After which we had the honour of Johnnykon to show us couple of Saunas. Before I retire to my bedroom waiting for my previously arranged SWs to knock on my door.

The story is always the same with SWs from LHL. They will try to pester you to pay upfront before they start work. On refusing their proposal of down payment, they will go into those cock and bull stories about that they were cheated into working here in LHL and trying to make enough money to go home, blah blah blah… Heard these stories over and over again… I still refused to give in, I just told her; the door’s there, if she wants to go on, please leave. Seeing that she is not getting anywhere, she reluctantly does her work and try to get you off as fast as possible. I reminded her that I had her for LT and her tip will depends on her performance. After which I can see a change of attitude turning from “Its just a job” to “a little bit more GFE for the tip”….

3.5 hours and 3 pops later (Started at 12am), paid her 400 (including tips and transport) I kicked her out of the room telling her to think of some better stories next time. Well, the going rats at LHL was 200 for ST (1 pop) I knew, but I agreed on LT in the first place. If she was not such a story teller and a finish off fast girl, I would had kept her a little longer and paid her the market rate of 500 for LT. But that also means that she left me some time to post this report before I crash due of lack of sleep in the past few night of partying in Shanghai and taking an early flight out to here this morning.

Girls Data:

Name: Jiao Jiao
Age: Claimed 18
Origin: North Eastern China
Mama Cell# 137xxxxx777
Skills: 3/10
Looks: 7/10
Bust & size: B cups with Pink tits

Tomorrow; more stories to tell… time to crash!

AG

Special Thanks to Reader123, Johnnykon and Wheelock for the sightseeing tour of LHL and some Saunas.

John Siron
10-26-06, 17:07
The Holiday Resort Hotel isn't that nice. What is nice is their sauna which is located at the very back of their BIG complex. One whole building dedicated to entertaining you with their model looking girls.

We actually booked rooms at the Holiday Resort our first time in Zhuhai but then left after seeing the rooms and booked at another hotel.

The Holiday Resort Sauna is still my favorite, but it is definitely more pricey than the other saunas in Zhuhai.


I noticed the report on the Grand Bay hotel. I have never stayed there, but would consider it. However, on my last trip having read about the holiday resort hotel, I thought I would try it. Big mistake. I usually stay at the Harbor view hotel and will do so next time or the one just down the street from it the International hotel by the conference centre. The holiday resort hotel is overrated. Yes, you can have a masseuse come to your room. But that's it; don't expect anything other than a massage. It was an o.k. massage, a nice lady, but no intimacy and she seemed offended that I was on the bed totally nude and wanted me to cover up which I said no. The massage was pricey. I don't remember exactly, but what I did was have the foot massage downstairs in the spa area and the same lady come to my room for the body massage. That way I could decide who would be coming with me.

The next day I went to the spa at the Harborview and wish I had brought more cash with me. They had changed things a bit since the last time I was there. The receptionist had asked if I wanted a sex massage and quoted 800 RMB, I said no as I wasn't carrying that much cash with me expecting to pay only about 400 to 500 RMB inclusive of tip. Although it wasn't a full service massage, the lady was really nice, gave me an excellent massage and seemed to enjoy my caressing of her legs and made a point of letting me know that next time I come back, to ask for her. She was from Sichuan and had a wonderful touch.

I will be back in China the end of October and if there are any suggestions of where to go, please advise.

OldAsiaHand
10-27-06, 03:26
Henning,

Just stayed at the Jin Yu Hotel. Paid 318 RMB for the room. The room is very big with a separate sitting area, almost like a mini-suite. The bathroom had a big jacuzzi tub, but no enclosed shower stall so it floods when you take a shower. Contrary to what I had been told, the room I was in had not been renovated and the carpet and furniture was a bit ragged. The free broadband worked fine and the location right on LHL is great. Overall, the place was relatively good value for the money, but I might go a little more upscale on my next visit to Zhuhai.

The sauna was 298 RMB inclusive of FS. I took a girl from Shandong whose service was pretty lame and she was not very good with the red ropes either. Wadman had a similar experience. I will spare you all the details, however, I will not repeat at this sauna.

OAH




As a lover of the Red Rope treatment the Jin Yu Hotel in Zhuhai is on my list for Zhuhai next week.

Is the Hotel only good for the Sauna, or is it also a good hotel to stay?

Another suggestion of a good hotel is also welcomed.

Is the Jin Yu Hotel far away from Ferry pier or Gongbei customs?

I arrive in HKG around 4 pm and would like to go directly to Zhuhai.

Thanks for your input.

Wadman
10-28-06, 05:29
the sauna was 298 rmb inclusive of fs. i took a girl from shandong whose service was pretty lame and she was not very good with the red ropes either. wadman had a similar experience. i will spare you all the details, however, i will not repeat at this sauna.

oah"not very good" doesn't quite describe my experience at the sauna, so let me give a few more details.

- no bj in the shower (so obviously it was going to be single pop session only)
- no ar
- the body licking treatment was done very half-assed.
- red rope lasted for less than 5 minutes. the girl sits on the red rope (much like a child on a swing) and hangs onto the rope with her hands. after less than 5 minutes, she complained that her hands were getting tired from holding on.

after about 10-15 minutes of fs, girl complained that i am too big (in my dreams...) and that it hurts. since i am a bj lover, i said: fine, just take of the condom and do a bj. which she did for about half an hour. one thing she kept saying was "don't come in my mouth, don't come in my mouth". i jokingly said, well, how about on your face then?

at one point she said that since there were only 20 minutes left, she didn't think she could get me off and didn't want to be yelled at. so she proposed to switch to another girl (as in, have another girl take her place). initially, i refused, but after she bitched a few times i agreed (thinking that the service from her would be crap from now on anyway).

so in comes a female manager who tells me that it will be another 298 rmb if i want to switch girls. i yell: "what! but it's not me who wants to switch, it's her, and i am not paying an extra 298." so she says wait a bit, she will bring in the male (higher ranking) manager. this is the guy who showed us the girls in the line-ups. he too tells me it's another 298 rmb if i want to bring in another girl. i counter with "i never wanted to switch girls, it's she who wants to". the manager yells at the sauna girl a bit, and she says she will continue the service. all this happens in the sauna room, with me sitting on the bed, with only a towel draped over me.

anyway, after another 20 minutes of bj, i pop. the girl avoided looking at me until i hugged and caressed her. she then warmed up, and we talked for a bit. not sure why she did what she did, since i am always nice to the girls.

oh yeah, just before leaving, she said i could either pay her directly or at the counter. i asked her how much, she says 300 rmb. i handed over the money, and asked her if that included the room charge. she said no, and she did not know how much the room charge was either. at this point i wanted to avoid more arguments, so i told her to give me the money back and i'll pay at the counter instead.

tip 1: if the girl asks you if you have been to the town before, lie and say yes! say you live there now, or come very often. my theory is this will lead to better service.

tip 2: if the girl asks if you have been to this sauna before, lie and say yes! say you have been 3, 4, 5, whatever times. if she says she has never seen you, well, what a coincidence, you haven't seen her either. it just worked out that way. my theory is that if you say it's your first time there, she will skip a lot of steps since you don't know what the sop is anyway.

place: jin yu hotel sauna
girl: number 120
from: guanxi
looks: face 7, body 7
damage: 298 rmb (room+girl)

i do want to thank johnnykon for showing us around in zhuhai. in no way do i mean this sarcastically. there was a police crackdown going on at lianhualu, so we didn't see many sws, but it's not like johnnykon has control over that. as for the sauna, well sometimes you get a good experience, and sometimes you don't. again, thanks johnnykon for showing us the sws, sauna's, bbss, and restaurants.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Seeker A
10-28-06, 08:14
Thank you Pyro27, Zhuhaifan & Ks457 for the contact numbers.

Wil try to book rooms for year-end trip. ZH LHL SW n saunas are indeed exciting. Looking fwd.

Thanks again.

Dar425
10-29-06, 17:23
Hi all,

Planning a short 4-day trip to ZH in early November. I've read this thread back to back but have a few more questions:

1) Planning on staying at the Changan Great Aim Hotel (chang2 an1 hua2 ce4) - has anyone stayed here and can comment on the quality of rooms/service, etc.?

2) Some of my impressions on reading this thread: ST and LT can be had for approx. RMB 200/600 respectively on LHL, RMB 1000 is the norm for KTVs. Anyone with any ONS or FL experience at the discos care to comment? I'm ok with high sound volumes so I'm game to hunt this way. ;)

3) Will be travelling alone but speak Putonghua fluently and can get by on Cantonese. Are KTVs out for the single hobbyist coz I don't want to look like a dork if going to them alone isnt the norm.

Thanks!

Hey Raver,

My recommendations about picking up freebies or freelancers would be:

1) ShuiWan Bar Street ("ShuiWan Jiu Ba Jie"). About 6 nightclubs located next to each other. You will know you are in the right place when you see "Cohiba" restaurant and bar (cohiba is the cuban cigar name), and the Heineken signs/lamps along the street. It is a 10 RMB taxi from Gongbei, 5 minutes.

Here, you will probably check out the bar called "RED BAR". It's at the northern-most end of this lineup of bars/clubs. It usually has the most action.

2) Across the street from RED BAR, is another upper-class disco called "LV CLUB". Sometimes is worth checking out, but not always.. when you enter, to the LEFT is the BAR, and to the RIGHT is the KTV. I only know the LEFT/BAR side (never tried KTV here).

3) Also in Gongbei along the main road/Highway (Da Dao) that goes north/south from the Gongbei/Macau into Zhuhai is a bar/disco called "MingTian" ("Yesterday"). It can be worth checking out for freebies, freelancers. From LianHua Lu, it is also just 5 minutes and a 10 RMB taxi ride.

These are the 3 bars/clubs I reccommend. I also like to hunt for the local free girl experience. I've picked up girls in all 3 places. I think some were semi-professional who just liked me and shared herself for free... others asked me for money upfront or the next morning.

Let me know if you find any other good bar/club scene to try. One thing is I did not look into the 'ex-pat/foriegner' areas too much. I heard there is another bar street for ex-pat.. some bar named "Blue Tone", etc... it's possible some free girls go there seeking for some western men, but I don't know because I never went to there (I am a white/western man).

But most often I hang out on LianHua Lu. The girls are pretty, young, and 200 RMB, and no hassle. In the nightclubs, you buy 2 drinks for a girl (25 RMB/each?), and waste a lot of time hunting for a really cute girl. LHL is faster and easier MOST of the time.

Dar

Superforce99
10-30-06, 03:20
Good post by Dar, but I want to add my own details about theses places, just
to give additional views of the places:



Hey Raver,

My recommendations about picking up freebies or freelancers would be:

1) ShuiWan Bar Street ("ShuiWan Jiu Ba Jie"). About 6 nightclubs located next to each other. You will know you are in the right place when you see "Cohiba" restaurant and bar (cohiba is the cuban cigar name), and the Heineken signs/lamps along the street. It is a 10 RMB taxi from Gongbei, 5 minutes.

Here, you will probably check out the bar called "RED BAR". It's at the northern-most end of this lineup of bars/clubs. It usually has the most action.



This Bar Street is good for going with a group of friends to have an outdoor drink/meal since
the emphasis is on outdoor tables and seating. There are about 10 bars in this area, and the
emphsis is on bar, not really dancing/disco. Most of the places are more like an outdoor beergarden,
so if you're comfortable hunting for gals in this environment with no loud music, darkness, etc. as distractions
and/or cover, then this is your place. I have rarely seen any guy, Chinese or foreigner, brazenly walk up to another
table and chat up women. Remember, there is no music, darkness, or packed crowds to help you blend in. It'd be like
giving everyone an amusing experience. I guess I'm not the type of person to really relish this. Otherwise, the
majority of foreigners I see here (and this is definately the area with the most foreigners in Zhuhai) bring
dates here and don't find company here.

The Red Bar is loacted at the farthest end of this bar street and was one of the few places that DID have
good music, dark environment, attractive gals, and better possiblilty for real freebie action, but, sadly, has
been closed for the past few weeks because of some brawling/fighting incidents between Chinese and
foreigners. It doesn't seem permanently closed but I don't know when it will open again.




2) Across the street from RED BAR, is another upper-class disco called "LV CLUB". Sometimes is worth checking out, but not always.. when you enter, to the LEFT is the BAR, and to the RIGHT is the KTV. I only know the LEFT/BAR side (never tried KTV here).



I have to disagree with this recommendation because LV Bar was probably the most pathetic bar I've seen in
China, ever. The facilities and decorations aren't bad and the lounge-y environment is pretty comfortable
actually, but the last 4-5 times I've been there, it was 99% empty. And I'm talking about Friday nights, Saturday
nights...one time at 11:45pm, it closed early! Ha ha...I felt sorry for the bar staff, you could see they were
all depressed and was wishing they were somewhere else. I don't know why it's so empty, but, believe me,
being one of only two or three patrons in a blaring Chinese disco bar is funny for about 5 seconds and then
you'll leave.




3) Also in Gongbei along the main road/Highway (Da Dao) that goes north/south from the Gongbei/Macau into Zhuhai is a bar/disco called "MingTian" ("Yesterday"). It can be worth checking out for freebies, freelancers. From LianHua Lu, it is also just 5 minutes and a 10 RMB taxi ride.



Most Zhuhai locals prefer Yesterday or the huge Tian Di Ren Jian disco near the Gongbei bus station. Yesterday is a typical
Chinese bar with loud music and dim lighting. Nothing special about the facilities but there are always crowds here.
You can probably find freebies/freelancers here, about the same as any bar in any part of China. By the way,
Yesterday is right next to Tomorrow bar, by the way, ha ha...and yes, there is a Today bar on Shui Wan Bar
Street. I don't know if they are all owned by person with an smartass sense of humor, but it's a funny
"China touch" to the bar scene.

Overall, if you have limited time, avoid the bars if you're expecting gals to give you a freebie because you're a
foreigner. If you have "game" then you'll pick up gals in ZH bars like anywhere else in the world. All in all,
if you strike out at the bars or are looking for a sure thing, Lian Hua Road is 5 minutes away.

J

Night Dragon
10-30-06, 03:21
Hey Raver,

My recommendations about picking up freebies or freelancers would be:

1) ShuiWan Bar Street ("ShuiWan Jiu Ba Jie"). About 6 nightclubs located next to each other. You will know you are in the right place when you see "Cohiba" restaurant and bar (cohiba is the cuban cigar name), and the Heineken signs/lamps along the street. It is a 10 RMB taxi from Gongbei, 5 minutes.

Here, you will probably check out the bar called "RED BAR". It's at the northern-most end of this lineup of bars/clubs. It usually has the most action.

2) Across the street from RED BAR, is another upper-class disco called "LV CLUB". Sometimes is worth checking out, but not always.. when you enter, to the LEFT is the BAR, and to the RIGHT is the KTV. I only know the LEFT/BAR side (never tried KTV here).

3) Also in Gongbei along the main road/Highway (Da Dao) that goes north/south from the Gongbei/Macau into Zhuhai is a bar/disco called "MingTian" ("Yesterday"). It can be worth checking out for freebies, freelancers. From LianHua Lu, it is also just 5 minutes and a 10 RMB taxi ride.

These are the 3 bars/clubs I reccommend. I also like to hunt for the local free girl experience. I've picked up girls in all 3 places. I think some were semi-professional who just liked me and shared herself for free... others asked me for money upfront or the next morning.

Let me know if you find any other good bar/club scene to try. One thing is I did not look into the 'ex-pat/foriegner' areas too much. I heard there is another bar street for ex-pat.. some bar named "Blue Tone", etc... it's possible some free girls go there seeking for some western men, but I don't know because I never went to there (I am a white/western man).

But most often I hang out on LianHua Lu. The girls are pretty, young, and 200 RMB, and no hassle. In the nightclubs, you buy 2 drinks for a girl (25 RMB/each?), and waste a lot of time hunting for a really cute girl. LHL is faster and easier MOST of the time.

Dar

The Chinese name for the "Yesterday" night club mentioned above is 昔日情怀 xīrì qínghuái. There is also another night club at the beginning of LHL called 天地人间tiāndìrénjiān where a lot of the FL congregate.

Datiao
10-30-06, 17:34
Reached ZH about 5pm today. roam around LHL green umbrella area.

Very few girls, saw patroling car every half hour or so. WTF raid on a Monday?

Went for a meal, then managed to see some girls handling namecards.

Took a girl YanYan back for FS at hotel.

Bath , chatted for a while, bbbj then FS in a few position, finished mish.

Bath again chatted for a while and she left. 1.5hrs total time taken.

Overall Service is satisfactory at a good pace (those rush jobs just [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off)

bbbj --- 7
Fs --- 7
GFE --- 6
Cost --- 200

11pm went down to look for a LT deal. Again very few girls with patrol car around. Forget it post this report and maybe try my luck later.

Superforce99
10-31-06, 02:06
Hey All,

For those who have just arrived, just left, or are about to come to Zhuhai, just know that
there is a MAJOR crack down at the moment. It started early last week and will probably
continue until the end of this week (Nov. 4). There is the national Avaiation Expo and Air Show going
on right now, which I guess is a major deal in Zhuhai and China. Lots of foreigners yesterday
night hanging out by the green umbrellas (they have all become mostly white umbrellas by the way)
but few girls approaching them or any other mongers. Cops are everywhere and a paddywagon
goes up and down Lian Hua Road about once every 15-20 minutes. There are still a few gals, but
the numbers are about 10-15% of normal. Best to walk up to a gal immediately and make
a deal or call a mamasan. I have a couple of gals and mamasans I've posted about in the past, and
I think most of them still work.

But for safety, convenience, and service, you can opt to go to any of Zhuhai's numerous saunas, which
are doing booming business at the moment, obviously. At about 12:00 am yesterday, 99% of every
damn room at Chang An Good World was full! And since this is the "premium priced" suana in the LHL area,
you can bet that 100% of the rooms in the budget saunas were full. But don't worry, you wouldn't
have to sit more than 10 minutes before a room opens up. Have fun and stay safe.


J

Loso69
10-31-06, 02:58
Johnnykon666,

Bad news, but thanks for the info. Sure hope that everything will be back to normal by the time I arrive (Nov 8 or 9).

If any other members will be in town around that time, please PM me.

Loso

Ace Gallant
10-31-06, 05:58
Hey All,

For those who have just arrived, just left, or are about to come to Zhuhai, just know that
there is a MAJOR crack down at the moment. It started early last week and will probably
continue until the end of this week (Nov. 4). There is the national Avaiation Expo and Air Show going
on right now, which I guess is a major deal in Zhuhai and China. Lots of foreigners yesterday
night hanging out by the green umbrellas (they have all become mostly white umbrellas by the way)
but few girls approaching them or any other mongers. Cops are everywhere and a paddywagon
goes up and down Lian Hua Road about once every 15-20 minutes. There are still a few gals, but
the numbers are about 10-15% of normal. Best to walk up to a gal immediately and make
a deal or call a mamasan. I have a couple of gals and mamasans I've posted about in the past, and
I think most of them still work.

But for safety, convenience, and service, you can opt to go to any of Zhuhai's numerous saunas, which
are doing booming business at the moment, obviously. At about 12:00 am yesterday, 99% of every
damn room at Chang An Good World was full! And since this is the "premium priced" suana in the LHL area,
you can bet that 100% of the rooms in the budget saunas were full. But don't worry, you wouldn't
have to sit more than 10 minutes before a room opens up. Have fun and stay safe.


J

Boy am I glad I am back in Shaghai! Thanks Johnny!

Oh BTW: I have your Sauna VIP card with me. Weelock passed it over to me to be returned to you. May be see you in 2 weeks time?

AG

Superforce99
10-31-06, 07:31
It’s been a while since I had a chance to sit down write a long report, so here goes…

Over the past two weeks, I’ve probably met about dozen new mongers going
through Zhuhai, which is great, I totally love to meet new people and show them
the plentiful pussy options or just hang out. Finally met the infamous AG along a
bunch of new and old faces: OAH, Wadman, Reader123, Weeeelock, and a host
of other ISG members and non-members.

First off, the past week was definitely the worst time for a bunch of mongers to come
Zhuhai because of the National Air Show. Definitely not business as usual, and my two
regular favorite SWs weren’t even patrolling LHL because the police were being extra
zealous in rounding up gals with the paddy wagon. That, ofcourse, made for extra-super-
GFE sex when they called or I called for service. Even a major crackdown has a silver
lining, I guess. Don’t let this crackdown give you a bad first-impression of Zhuhai, though.

I think Changping saunas are the best in China, but I like to think that Zhuhai saunas
give 90% of service at 50% of the price. I guess I need to also the rules: "NEVER say it
is your first time at a particular establishment," "act like you normally get whatever
service you want", "let the girl know what service you want, exactly (for example, getting
a BBBJ during the beginning shower is NOT normally done, I’ve gotten it about 30% of the
time and it’s only as a warm-up, so if you want it, ask for it because essentially the
girl is supposed to do whatever you want)”. That being said, I’ve generally had great
experiences in Zhuhai saunas, about a 75% satisfaction rate, which I think is pretty high
compared to about a 30-40% satisfaction rate with general SWs.

I brought OAH and his band of merry minstrels around Zhuhai for a tour of various
saunas. One great thing about bringing a group of 6-7 guys to saunas is that you’ll get
lineups with minimum of 8-10 gals at once! OAH and Wadman decided to go with the
Jin Yu Hotel/Sauna (directly across from Changan Good World Hotel/Sauna) and they
both got mediocre service. It was disappointing to me because I’ve gotten great service
the couple of times I’ve been there. Their main attractions are newly renovated sauna
rooms, red rope service, and 5 minute walk from LHL. I thought the lineup of gals was
above average. OAH and Wadman have detailed their negative experiences in reports.

YET the very next day, I brought another couple of mongers to the same Jin Yu sauna,
and they had an EXCELLENT TIME! These two mongers got great enthusiastic service,
red ropes, and a second pop via BBBJ after finishing the first fuck vaginally. All this
shows is that what a crapshoot sauna service is and that and the sauna girl you choose
determines a lot of what kind of service you receive. I did tell the male captain that my
friends the day before had gotten shitty service and if my subsequent two friends I
brought also weren’t satisfied, I would never bring any customers again. He seemed to
take it to heart in a half-assed way, but he never spoke to the girls directly, so I don’t see
how my bitching led to directly to better sauna service. Following my sauna rules should
give a better guarantee of good sauna service, but then again, there are no guarantees in
this mongering stuff…

SAUNA UPDATES: I may or may not have mentioned it before, but the Communications
Hotel sauna (the one closest to the Gongbei Bus Station) is closed for renovations. I never
really liked their ratty-ass quality rooms or sub-par gals, but I guess you couldn’t beat
their standard prices of 218 RMB regular room all-inclusive and 238 RMB VIP room all-
inclusive. The “two dragon-horse” sauna (across the street and near the beginning of the
block from Golden Port Sauna at the Gongbei Border Crossing) is also closed for
renovations. This one I am sad about because it was one of my favorite sauna places.
No red ropes but their specialty was the vigorous scrub-down by the girl sports massage
style. You really got clean with that routine, and then she would give the soft, sensual
breast massage afterwards which is the best way to do it, I think. Price was all inclusive
for 298 RMB, so price wasn’t anything out of the ordinary.


Have fun and stay safe.


J

Superforce99
10-31-06, 09:16
A quick separate report on the infamous Da Ming Yuan, which I now conclude must be the most popular (but not necessarily the best) sauna in Zhuhai.

Over the course of 3 weeks, I visited this place 3 times and received different levels of service, quality of gals, and pricing, and it just goes to show you how strange the whole sauna scene can be, though it is definitely enjoyable nonetheless.

First, I had #209 (I think) a few weeks ago. It was late-ish, about 11: 30pm on weekday but all the regular VIP rooms were already occupied, so I had to go up to the 6 floor and use a regular hotel room. Selection of girls were limited and I just chose #209 based on her long thin legs. After stripping off her clothes, I realized the dim lighting had totally fooled me into picking one of the skinniest girls I had ever seen in my life. I was ready to give her a bowl of gruel, swat the flies away from her face, and donate 32 cents a day to improve her life. I was about to reject her but then I thought, "Hell, how often will I have a chance to fuck a Chinese Ethiopian gal? " so I kept her. Typical sauna routine and I'll note her BBBJ was great but not extended. Her pussy was pretty tight but I had to do her doggie in order not to focus on her protruding rib cages and stick-arms. Seemed like what little body fat she actually had was centered in her vaginal lips and pert ass, which suited the doggie position best. Finished and wanted her to give one more BBBJ but after a few minutes but she was stalling and I could tell it wouldn't be easy so I just gave up. Paid 270 RMB and left.

Next, I had #212 who was an absolute cutie. About 5'5 with a fresh 18-year old body including small perky tits with pink-ish nipples. She was actually 22 years old but had a round-ish innocent face. The funny thing was that day, I was actually joking with the taxi driver bringing me to DMY what a great bargain it was but unfortunately there were a high percentage of ugly sauna gals. Glad that DMY proved me wrong that day. Little cute gave great service and her BBBJ was excellent, better than #209. So much so that after a few minutes of missionary, I asked her to BBBJ CIM. She looked at the condom and said, "I can't put this in my mouth" and pulled it off then proceeded to BBBJ till the instant I came, upon where she expertly switched to a decent HJ finish. She said she didn't want come in her mouth, and then again, who does? And I have to add that Chinese skills are absolutely ESSENTIAL in helping the girls to warm up and give better service. I think it's because they feel more confident and assured that you are happy, you will be a repeat customer, you won't complain, and unexpected things (CIM, anal, bareback fucks) won't happen because there's a degree of understanding in speaking a common language. After resting a bit and watching TV, I said I was horny again and fucked her missionary, doggie, and finished with her riding cowgirl. This was at about 5: 45pm in the afternoon, so I got the special rate of 238 RMB for the VIP room, all-inclusive and the VIP card cannot be used during the promotional times (promo time is from 5: 00-7: 00pm, with prices 218/238 RMB for regular/VIP room service, all-inclusive).

Finally, I had #156 who is a real small, petit gal. About 5'3 and bubbly and happy from Sichuan. She gave great service and was very open to instructions to do requests and after a vigorous fuck, ended doggie. Paid the 260 RMB rate with VIP card (280 RMB without) and was very happy, mostly because I talked to her in more details about her sauna job and found out TONS of useful info that many girls wouldn't probably be so open about:

DMY gals are doing this mainly for quick money

She was "suggested" to do sauna work by her mamasan because this little gal had run up debts of 30, 000 RMB (they seemed totally unjustified, but the little gal seemed resigned to accept them)

This little gal knows that she needs to have a happy demeanor and act like a cutie to be popular to get more business to earn more money, and she is one of the top earners at DMY

She has a quota of 800 RMB she must reach to pay the mamasan. EVERYDAY

She actually reaches this quota, everyday! Each customer represents 150 RMB in earnings (more if they tip) so that means she needs to fuck from 5-6 guys a day to meet the quota. When asked what happens if she doesn't meet the daily quota, she simply and confidently said she works overtime as necessary, and she has never had to wait more than 15-20 minutes before a customer picked her.

She gets two days off per month, so in 6 months, she's been fucked anywhere from 828-996 guys! That's a damn lot 'o cocks.

During her best months, she can make 30, 000 RMB (including tips), for example, one Singaporean guy sees her twice a month and pays her a 500 RMB tip, and this kind of thing is uncommon. For guys who tip like this on a regular basis, y'all are retarded because she doesn't feel any more/less attracted to these guys, just sees more RMB signs in her eyes when they walk in the door.

She generally doesn't feel pleasure from the sex but every once in a while, she'll enjoy herself but it doesn't matter either way. She's thinking about making her quota during the whole time

She plans to go back to her village in Sichuan after making from 100, 000 to 150, 000 RMB in savings. She plans to buy a house and open a small restaurant or convenience store. When asked about her future husband's reaction to her unusually experienced sex skills or loose pussy, she laughed and said that men in the countryside only have sex to make babies so it didn't worry her. I laughed too, but I'm not sure whether for her naïve attitude or it's possible truth.

DMY sauna gals from Dongbei usually give worse service compared to gals from other regions.

You can ask the sauna gals to fuck you as many times as you want in 90 minutes. The best way is to say straight off the bat, "I want to fuck you twice. Do you have a problem? " If the girl does, you can switch, and if she lies and then doesn't perform after the first shot, complain (see below). It makes a huge difference in the girl's attitude and earnings.

At DMY, the gals are fined from 200-500 RMB for all sorts of BS rules infractions, most of which work to your advantage:

*Can't go to the "regular massage areas" in their sexy uniforms, 200-500 RMB fine
*Can't leave the sauna room early without the customer, 200-300 RMB fine *If customer complains during or after the session, 200-300 RMB fine
*Various uniform violations, 200-500 RMB fine
*Every minute late to work, 100-200 RMB fine

Working hard so you don't.

J

Raverboy
10-31-06, 12:02
Johnnykon666, Night Dragon, Dar425, Legal Lad:

Many thanks for your comments/input, I'll certainly keep them in mind. Meanwhile, the latest with regards to my travel plans is - I'm trying to decide between ZH and Jakarta for a quick weekend escapade, will be my first time to either !! Further comments welcome.

Legal Lad
10-31-06, 21:28
Ahh..

So it's the airshow that are making the hotel prices shoot through the roof. I had planned to playing a bit in Dongguan then going directly to zhuhai, but due to the increase in pricing, I will have to make a stop in Zhongshan for my mongering.

As an illustration, I normally stay at the Harbor View Hotel at around 600 RMB a night, i checked on ctrip last night and it was 2400RMB for a delux room, with "tight" availablity. Damn!

Oh well, will be in ZHuhai around the 7th or so. Send me a PM if you want to catch up.

'lad

Traveler1234
10-31-06, 22:04
It’s been a while since I had a chance to sit down write a long report, so here goes…

Over the past two weeks, I’ve probably met about dozen new mongers going
through Zhuhai, which is great, I totally love to meet new people and show them
the plentiful pussy options or just hang out. Finally met the infamous AG along a
bunch of new and old faces: OAH, Wadman, Reader123, Weeeelock, and a host
of other ISG members and non-members.


J

J666
Regular on LOS thread.

Great FR re sauna scene - hope to find excuse to visit one day. Heading to BJ and Shanghai in mid Nov but outside chance I might be able to make pit stop in Zhuhai.....

T1234

Superforce99
11-01-06, 01:56
Boy am I glad I am back in Shaghai! Thanks Johnny!

Oh BTW: I have your Sauna VIP card with me. Weelock passed it over to me to be returned to you. May be see you in 2 weeks time?

AGNo problem, see you in two weeks. Also, my offer to you stands, basically, I will pay for a deluxe hotel room and all your meals if you can seduce one of the "green umbrella" gals in one night with no direct money involved. See'mon, AG, get those magical freebie powers working overtime! I really want to see the possiblities!

Also, in two weeks, there should be plenty of LHL gals for you to do double-fly or triple fly with no problems.

J

Superforce99
11-01-06, 02:09
Went to bar street yesterday night and looks like Red Bar is open again. In my opinion, the best dance club in ZH with a good mix of music, mood, and non-pro women. Gets crowded quickly on weekends with their smallish size, though.

Also, the lame-ass bar to the left of Cohiba Bar/Western Restaurant has closed and another (probably lame-ass) bar is quickly being constructed in its place.

Anyway, I stand by my opinion that Shuiwan Bar Street a nice "hip" place to bring your dates and friends for a meal and/or beer in an open, garden-type atmosphere, but unless you love playing that stupid "dice guessing" game with dates and friends WITHOUT loud music and people dancing around you, then coming here for freelancers is limited (especially since LHL is 5-10 minutes away) and trying to score freebies is possible, but smaller "pool of targets" than I expect for such an area. Lots of cute waitresses and bar staff, but working on these type of targets is a real grind, I think.

J

Goowest
11-01-06, 02:20
As some guys are already reporting, there are little girls around LHL and some hotels around Gongbei area seems offering more pricy rate(10-50%) than usual.

There is no girls on LHL. Then I have been to Chang An Good World sauna.

My girls was No.115, 19yo from Yunnan.

Her technique was poor but super GF type and she has small but sweet fruity tits.

Superforce99
11-01-06, 03:09
Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back.

Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.

You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises, unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs. But this shit works! I was skeptical at first, but willing to try it out and was pleasantly surprised.

Overall, the effect is somewhere between Viagra and Cialis. I don't need these type of ED drugs but I like to use them from time to time as "recreational performance enhancers" as I've heard it eloqently put before. I think Viagra gives you a very hard, de-sensitized penis, like an artifical steel rod has been attached to your groin. If you want to fuck the shit out of a girl for a few hours, regardless of your own pleasure, then V is for you, in my opinion. Also, I get a slight headache and a dizzy feeling after using V which goes away by the next day. And I hate walking around with a "Viagra boner" which I can do anything about, especially if I need to do something in public, it's annoying and doesn't feel too good to have a hard erection straining against my pants. With Cialis, my experience is a 95% hard erection (compared to V's 110%) that feels more natural and I can control my ejaculations relatively well. No headaches or dizzy feelings and the effect is best on the first day and lasts for about 3 days for me, with each subsequent day losing about 10-15% effectiveness.

With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.

You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials (translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.

When taking these pills instead of real/generic see and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality pirated DVDs. Ha ha. But, well, that's China.

J

PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill.

Bnlee2
11-01-06, 03:21
With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection
that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than
with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a
little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.

You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine
taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials
(translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.

When taking these pills instead of real/generic C and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality
pirated DVDs...ha ha...but, well, that's China....


J

PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill...

I tried this last year and you are correct, the stuff is a cross between a V and a C with way less side effects. My friend told me that it is a mixture of natural herbs and non synthetic. good stuff. i took several times and i guess that there is no harmful effect. I am still alive and kicking.

OldAsiaHand
11-02-06, 04:24
Johnny,

I had a subsequent discussion with Wadman regarding our "less than great" experiences at the sauna. Living here, we do a lot of girls in China for comparison and our expectation bar may be higher than others. You and I have also discussed this very subject and compared the percentages of service levels among BBS girls and agreeing that more than half are below average. Having said that, sauna girls should be better service than BBS/SW. I would be keen to have your similar overall service assessment on Zhuhai sauna service. Another factor may be the frequency of encounter. For example, if you just pulled into town after a 6+ month dry spell in the USA, anything you might do could be "fantastic". This sometimes happens to me even after one week without any action.

On the other hand, it was obvious that my Shandong girl at the Jin Yu was trying to do as little as necessary. The reason I selected her was that she had a full set of big lips that I thought would be good for all the oral exercises. In the end, I only got a lame fire/ice BBBJ/AR, but with none of the other fluids that are standard in most DG saunas. I agree that the price is attractive in comparison with DG, but I found the service level far inferior.

Having said all that, I am still keen to come back down and give it another try.

Thanks again for showing as around. It was great to hook-up with you in Zhuhai finally.

OAH

Santa
11-02-06, 08:56
Hi Gang. After a six month dry spell in the US I finally arrived back in China. First stop is Zhuhai. I immediately went to LianHua Lu and you can imagine my shock and disappointment when I didn't see any girls parading up and down. What happened? :( Later I learned about the airshow and guessed what had happened.

While sitting in a restaurant, a girl came to my table and offered her services. She looked ok so I went for it, 200 ST. She was ok in bed but had saggy tits and tummy. Friendly enough, so not so bad.

The next day I got a call from JohnnyKon, who I have never met before. I expected he might be a big, macho, no nonsense yank. We met that evening and he was a friendly, polite and intelligent guy. He introduced me to a couple of girls he knew and they both came to my room for 2 hours, 400rmb. It would have been really great, except when I tried to do the second one it turned out to be the beginning of her period. Damn! It was ok though, they were so entertaining it really didn't totally ruin it for my.

The following evening I tried the Jin Yu Hotel Sauna. It is located down an alley immediately behind the Guangdong Regency Hotel. I had a girl named Chen #30. She asked me to recommend her to you guys, and I do. I was very happy with the service and the price was only 289rmb. I thought it was great, but then again, I have been stuck in the US for the past six months and I don't have the experience that OAH has.

Regarding prices of hotels, there are lots of cheap hotels in Zhuhai down many of the side streets. The Jin Yu is pretty good and singles starts at only 168rmb. During the airshow they start at 210rmb. For those of you who are new to China, you need to know that the prices are usually 35% less than the advertised price.

Here's a few non-mongering tips. There's a big and clean dental clinic on the corner opposite the Guangdong Hotel. You can have your teeth checked and cleaned for only 55rmb. I was lucky, she said I have "no calories" :) There is a good sex toy shop on the other corner.

There is a good seafood restaurant opposite the Xiang Jiang Hotel, this hotel also has a sex sauna. A western steak restaurant near the Xiang Jiang called the Indian Restaurant (american style). Also, a western buffet on the 29th floor of the Guangdong Regency.

Superforce99
11-03-06, 02:45
during dinner with santa yesterday, a petite cutie that i met from the bike-taxi mamasan called me up. i was kind of excited because i thought she was available to fuck (she had recently gotten a hotel job for some reason, thought it could all be bs). she wasn't free. but, she had a cute friend she wanted to "introduce" to me. well, that's an interesting bonus, so i met up with her friend who was a cute, 19-year old from anhui. she was with her older "sister" who may or may not have actually been her sister, but they were both from the same village in anhui, just like my petite cutie.

they were surprised santa was with me and i asked them to bring some more gals for him to choose from. she got one on the phone and who was "tall and beautiful" but she would be a bit more expensive because she just arrived to zhuhai and hadn't had any customers yet and, in general, wasn't sexually experienced. 300 rmb st instead of the usual 200 st. at this point, i noticed that this "older sister" was pretty hot, too. i guess i'm partial to slightly older gals at 25-30 years old and i was itching to do this older one. but, i got the distinct feeling (which turned out to be 100% correct) that the younger cutie would have nothing to do with foreigners.

santa agreed that older sis was attractive and took her back to his hotel and i took young sis back to my apt. her body was perfect, like an adolescent wet dream, with long, lean legs. soft-yet-firm 34c breasts. slight muscle definition all over her body from being naturally slim, and all wrapped up in flawless, soft skin. she gave a good bbbj and would even stop and giggle before continuing. this kind of gives you an idea of her "style" which could be defined as "happy teen who is ticklish as shit". i like touching and caressing a gal but that would cause her to go into convultions on my bed, thrashing and kicking and twisting and turning, so i kind of stopped and just got on with the fucking. her pussy was wet and tight and felt great and she was even open to me using lube to rub her clit and asshole during the fucking. really flawless looking pussy, ass, and asshole area, too, which is always a nice bonus when you're fucking a gal doggie.

overall, a nice, pleasant fuck, and i would recommend to those who are not in caressing the gals so much but mostly want to just pound a tight, wet pussy on a gorgeous young teen body. she plainly stated she is not going to go with non-chinese foreigners (she didn't know i was non-hk / non-taiwanese until i specifically told her), particularly white guys and black guys, sorry.

santa apparently didn't have that good a time with older sis, but i will write that off to "bad-service-for-foreigners" syndrome. it happens sometimes and that's why i like recommending gals that i know or can push to give great or equal service to.

i will fuck older sis and the inexperienced sis asap and report back. enjoy the pics of the gal, whose name i don't remember, ofcourse.

j

ps. with the aid of two chi-agra pills, i was able to pound this girl slowly and quickly with pretty good control of when i would come. good time for me and for her. and i used three chi-agras yesterday with another gal and it was too strong, and i could barely come and needed to bang the shit out of her at high speed just to do so. she was a regular gal i have and was totally fucked out afterwards (not necessarily a good thing) and was wondering what the hell was going on with me, ha ha. again, one of the best things about these pills are they seem to be out of your body within a few hours of use, so you don't go walking around with insta-boners all day long, which happens with me a lot if i use viagra/cialis.

Orientalovers
11-03-06, 05:00
Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back...

Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member
recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the
pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.

You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the
ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises,
unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs....but this shit works!
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PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill...

Dear Johnny

Thanks for your information on 'China-Viagra'. I will visit Zuhai very soon and would like to try some. Please letme know where can I find this 'Viagra'.

Thanks in advance.

Loso69
11-03-06, 06:29
She plainly stated she is NOT going to go with non-Chinese foreigners, particularly white guys and black guys, sorry.


What percentage of the girls in Zhu Hai think that way? And does that include 99.9% of the beautiful ones?

The PYTs get plenty of customers, and can afford to discriminate. The ugly ones can't afford to be picky and will go with anyone who's desperate enough to make them an offer. Right?

Loso

Superforce99
11-03-06, 06:44
Dear Johnny

Thanks for your information on 'China-Viagra'. I will visit Zuhai very soon and would like to try some. Please letme know where can I find this 'Viagra'.

Thanks in advance.


In ZH, any of those Chinese "sex toys" shops have had it as well as any general drug
store (kind of out of the way in the back). Haven't had the chance to look for it in other
cities yet.

J

Superforce99
11-03-06, 06:48
What percentage of the girls in Zhu Hai think that way? And does that include 99.9% of the beautiful ones?

The PYTs get plenty of customers, and can afford to discriminate. The ugly ones can't afford to be picky and will go with anyone who's desperate enough to make them an offer. Right?

Loso

The funny thing is that I would estimate from about 60-70% of the most beautiful gals in
ZH will have NO problem doing all kinds of foreigners, mostly because A) it's more volume of
business in general and B) foreigners tend to pay more and/or tip.

But that being said, the remaining 30-40% is still a high ratio of "no service" or, even more
of a bummer, "shitty service." I would say getting girls from a personal recommendation
like me or someone else with a bit of communicative history can help lower the odds of
no/low service to about 10-20%.

And you would be surprised how picky ugly gals can be, ha ha...


J

Santa
11-03-06, 07:21
Not man y girls around yesterday, because of the crackdown, but JohnnyKon called some on his mobile and they met us outside the Chang An Hotel.
The one I had was very pretty and had a nice body. However, when we got to the bed she refused a blow job, said that would be an extra 100rmb. I refused and so did she. I wanted to fuck her and decided it was my own fault for not asking earlier, so I decided to only shag. She was a good shag with lots of movements, contractions and groans. All a big act of course. Cost 200rmb

Went back to Lian Hua Lu and sat at an umbrella bar near the ChangAn Hotel and the late night food stalls. Several beers later, around 3:00 am, a whole bunch of girls showed up and started hanging on the corner. Slowly they all disappeared with one guy at a time. Finally, at 4:00 am, I took a pretty one wearing glasses. To my surprise she knew some english. I made sure this time that a blowjob was included.

So we get to my room, she is very friendly, and she starts giving me a very good blow job for about only 30 seconds. Then she starts reaching for the condom. I say, "please continue the blowjob", she answers, "no, you give me 100rmb tip and I give you very good service ok".

What should I have done?

MarkFalcon33
11-03-06, 07:33
Hi Johnny,

Actually It is legal to do 17 year olds and younger in many other countries like Cambodia,Holland etc.But It is against Jackson rules which he has to follow,might I suggest editing your post accordingly Cheers CLhttp://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

But even it is 14 for chinese, if you are from United States, United States law can still reach out and touch you. As in: YOU will go to jail the minute you walk back into the states if they know or find out.

GoldDragon
11-03-06, 09:34
Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the
pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.

...Hello Johnnykon666 ! One of my subcontractor recently went to China and brought back the same Chi-agra capsules to Malaysia . He gave me a box of nine capsules to try last week. I would give two thumbs up on the effectiveness of this product. Just as you have already described, it works best for a short term FJ without the after effect of having a boner thereafter inside my pant for the rest of the day. Similar as yourself , I find that taking two capsules is sufficient to give my didi the extra hardness it requires during FJ with any PRC mei-mei. Oh! Yes! We do have a lot of PRC mei-mei venturing to Malaysia as well. Good to read all your sexciting adventures in Zhuhai. Makes me wanna return to Zhuhai soon when the next opportunity arises.

There is a product information in the box and the following are extracts from it.

The product is known as the Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule.

It is an excellent product of new generation of strengthening and invigorating the kidney; it is refined with penis of cattle in Menchang, Anhui province mingled with rare Chinese medicines such as pilose antler and ginseng etc.

Material : Penis of cattle, pilose antler, ginseng, schisandra, fruit of Chinese wolfberry, semen cuscutae, barrenwort, cistanche salsa, arillus longan etc…

Quote “ After taking the medicine, men feel swell like flooding, going with the stream smoothly, having the sense of moisture, happiness and pleasure.”

OldAsiaHand
11-03-06, 11:25
Santa:

Being in this situation is always a tough call. You can ask her to leave, but run the risk that she will refuse to go and demand the money anyway even though you did not finish the deed. I will usually feel them out first by suggesting that you want to find another girl that gives longer BBBJ to see it that motivates them to improve their service. This works with BBS girls since they know you can complain to the mamasan. SWs are another story because there is nowhere to complain.

I never bend to extortion so if the dialogue fails, I just cover up and proceed to the FS. If they play these scams from the start, who knows what you will end up with even for more money. I just chalk it up to bad luck and go find another one.

I am a firm believer in avoiding confrontation in China. It is just too easy for someone to get 5-6 thugs to kick the shit out of you over a few RMB. Case in point last week when we witnessed a confrontation between 2 BBS girls in Zhuhai. Within 10 minutes, 5 guys showed up willing to kick the shit out of one of the girls only to be stopped by the other girl first.

Just my POV.

OAH








Not man y girls around yesterday, because of the crackdown, but JohnnyKon called some on his mobile and they met us outside the Chang An Hotel.
The one I had was very pretty and had a nice body. However, when we got to the bed she refused a blow job, said that would be an extra 100rmb. I refused and so did she. I wanted to fuck her and decided it was my own fault for not asking earlier, so I decided to only shag. She was a good shag with lots of movements, contractions and groans. All a big act of course. Cost 200rmb

Went back to Lian Hua Lu and sat at an umbrella bar near the ChangAn Hotel and the late night food stalls. Several beers later, around 3:00 am, a whole bunch of girls showed up and started hanging on the corner. Slowly they all disappeared with one guy at a time. Finally, at 4:00 am, I took a pretty one wearing glasses. To my surprise she knew some english. I made sure this time that a blowjob was included.

So we get to my room, she is very friendly, and she starts giving me a very good blow job for about only 30 seconds. Then she starts reaching for the condom. I say, "please continue the blowjob", she answers, "no, you give me 100rmb tip and I give you very good service ok".

What should I have done?

Ks457
11-03-06, 17:28
It's bad enough when they purposely try to rip you off (i.e. hide under the bed to go through your pants, run off with wallet while sleeping etc, etc), there is no reason to complicate things. Best to chalk it up to a bad experience, get the deed over with (or not) and part with the 200 rmb. I've spend much more for much less before, it's just not worth it. However, should not be a chump for the girls to take advantage of either.

I always just try to keep smiling, trying to joke with the girl, and have another go at getting what I want. I've begged (knees on ground, hands together begging...as a joke of course). Claimed it's my first time ever getting it (yeah, they always laugh at that one), or that she's the first one I've asked to do it, the list goes on...

But if a girl is just a shitty provider, then she's just a shitty provider. I know I'm just a newb and Santa's an experienced senior member, so I'm sure he knows all this, but if coaxing, begging, pleading, humoring doesn't work, and all she's trying to do is squeeze more RMB out of you, then I think there is nothing that you could've done, but just take it in stride and chaulk one up to bad experience.

I know OAH and Wadman recently had a bad experience in a Zhu Hai sauna, but they probably didn't waste their time and effort trying to get what they want at that sauna right there and then. Instead, I'm sure they headed out to the next stop where they CAN get what they want.

Just my two RMB.

-KS

P.S. I loved Zhu Hai - the SW, the sauna, the KTV (okay, maybe not the KTV so much, but heck, I've only tried one. there are many others) - I'm sure your next one will be good!

Orientalovers
11-06-06, 07:33
Johnny & Golddragon,

Thanks both of you for the information on 'Chi-viagra'.
Will try to search some and try soon. Now I am wondering can I easily get it in LHL area, cos my time is tight with schedule. Johnny, is there any 'sex shop' that sell Chi-viagra along LHL or Qiaoguang Lu ?

Thanks.

Superforce99
11-07-06, 01:59
Johnny & Golddragon,

Thanks both of you for the information on 'Chi-viagra'.
Will try to search some and try soon. Now I am wondering can I easily get it in LHL area, cos my time is tight with schedule. Johnny, is there any 'sex shop' that sell Chi-viagra along LHL or Qiaoguang Lu ?

Thanks.


If you are standing outside of the Yue Hai Hotel and start walking towards the green umbrella cafes
on LHL, every medicine/sex shop on the road has it. It's a little more expensive than if you went
away from LHL to buy, so expect to pay from 100-120 RMB for a box of about 12 (?) small bottles which
have about a dozen pills in each bottle.

Give me an email and I can show you if you have trouble. jkon666@yahoo.com

J

Hari Hara
11-07-06, 19:51
Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back...

Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member
recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the
pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.

You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the
ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises,
unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs....but this shit works!
I was skeptical at first, but willing to try it out and was pleasantly surprised.

Overall, the effect is somewhere between Viagra and Cialis. I don't need these type of ED drugs but I like to use
them from time to time as "recreational performance enhancers" as I've heard it eloqently put before. I think Viagra
gives you a very hard, de-sensitized penis, like an artifical steel rod has been attached to your groin. If you want to fuck
the shit out of a girl for a few hours, regardless of your own pleasure, then V is for you, in my opinion. Also, I get a slight
headache and a dizzy feeling after using V which goes away by the next day. And I hate walking around with a
"Viagra boner" which I can do anything about, especially if I need to do something in public, it's annoying and
doesn't feel too good to have a hard erection straining against my pants. With Cialis, my experience is a
95% hard erection (compared to V's 110%) that feels more natural and I can control my ejaculations relatively
well. No headaches or dizzy feelings and the effect is best on the first day and lasts for about 3 days for me,
with each subsequent day losing about 10-15% effectiveness.

With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection
that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than
with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a
little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.

You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine
taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials
(translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.

When taking these pills instead of real/generic C and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality
pirated DVDs...ha ha...but, well, that's China....


J

PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill...

Has anyone found out what is in this product. Would one of you daredevils open a capsule and see if the contents are dried herbs or some powder?

Thanks

Manfest
11-07-06, 20:56
Has anyone found out what is in this product. Would one of you daredevils open a capsule and see if the contents are dried herbs or some powder?DayNight and others have posted much detail about the product. Look in the "Living in China" thread as well. Here is one link, but there are other comments

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=526121&postcount=659

Superforce99
11-08-06, 06:02
Has anyone found out what is in this product. Would one of you daredevils open a capsule and see if the contents are dried herbs or some powder?

Thanks


It's nothing special, a bunch of Chinese herbs and powdered ox penis (though I doubt that,
since it would be a relatively expensive ingredient and this product is dirt-cheap). Definately
powder inside. Daynight made some detailed findings regarding it:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=526121&postcount=659

And, nobody says you have to try it, but it works, it's supposedly natural, and I don't have any
lingering side effects like I do with Viagra or Cialis. I actually had several "comparison fucks"
using Cialis and Viagra this week to compare with last week when I first starting using Chi-agra.
I am definately a believer in Chi-agra now and won't need to spend time/money/effort to get real
and/or generic C/V in HK or the US anymore. Ofcourse, your experience may vary, so if you're in
doubt, skip this stuff. Me, I guess I'm the kind to just dive in...


J

Spikingmany
11-13-06, 07:37
I have looked in every drug store and fuch shop and can't find the wonder drug.


Just when you thought you could get away, I'm back.

Anyway, I wanted to write a quick report on an interesting Viagra-like Chinese product that a non-ISG member recently introduced me to. I don't really know the Chinese name but I've included pics of the front, back, and the pills themselves so you can get a better idea about them.

You're supposed to take the pills about 1 hour before you fuck, similar to Viagra. I'm not sure exactly what the ingredients are (real smart, with me ingesting them, I know) but I'm sure it's some ancient mixture of turtle penises, unicorn horns, dried leaves, powdered Communist documents, and butterfly eggs. But this shit works! I was skeptical at first, but willing to try it out and was pleasantly surprised.

Overall, the effect is somewhere between Viagra and Cialis. I don't need these type of ED drugs but I like to use them from time to time as "recreational performance enhancers" as I've heard it eloqently put before. I think Viagra gives you a very hard, de-sensitized penis, like an artifical steel rod has been attached to your groin. If you want to fuck the shit out of a girl for a few hours, regardless of your own pleasure, then V is for you, in my opinion. Also, I get a slight headache and a dizzy feeling after using V which goes away by the next day. And I hate walking around with a "Viagra boner" which I can do anything about, especially if I need to do something in public, it's annoying and doesn't feel too good to have a hard erection straining against my pants. With Cialis, my experience is a 95% hard erection (compared to V's 110%) that feels more natural and I can control my ejaculations relatively well. No headaches or dizzy feelings and the effect is best on the first day and lasts for about 3 days for me, with each subsequent day losing about 10-15% effectiveness.

With this Chi-agra, the effect kicks in after about 30 minutes and the feeling was about a 99-100% hard erection that I could control pretty well, slightly less than with Cialis. Great feeling and sensation my penis, a bit more than with Cialis and much more so than with Viagra. No headaches or dizziness and there seems to be a little bit of spill-over effect on the next day, but I would probably need to take another dose for real effect.

You're supposed to take 3 pills for one dose, but I took two and the effects were pretty good. I can imagine taking three and really being able to fuck the shit out of a gal. Price is super cheap, with a huge box of ten vials (translates to about 100-120 doses) for 80-90 RMB.

When taking these pills instead of real/generic see and V, I really feel as though I am buying high quality pirated DVDs. Ha ha. But, well, that's China.

J

PS. Gotta love the words "Vigorous" printed on every pill.

Mc Fly XXX
11-13-06, 15:52
I have looked in every drug store and fuch shop and can't find the wonder drug.

Got it myself a week ago in Zhuhai - at a Pharmacy on LHL. As I stayed in Chang An Hotel just went out to LHL and to the right (opposite side of the umbrella bars) Then it was the first pharmacy on the right hand side. Just showed them the picture of the littel vial that JK has put up here. No problems at all.

And the best thing - it works on me.
Best value for money for sure.

Superforce99
11-14-06, 04:06
Been hanging out with an ISG member the past few days (sorry I forget his name on ISG)
but he's been great company and has more high-quality photos of his gals than you can imagine.

Happily for me, he ended up doing "porn star" I mentioned a few posts back. I really love this
girl's body and her face is nice, too. How he was able to make her look warm and happy instead
of the normal scowl and bitchiness, I don't know, ha ha...I didn't want to post his awesome pics
haphazardly, so I've added a watermark for the first time. Anyway, you can still get an idea of
what she looks like though no nude pics, which would have been great.

Enjoy.


J

Goowest
11-14-06, 08:53
And there is also blue color label of this bottle.

It is a bit pricy than red one.

I am going to try Blue Label next week.


Got it myself a week ago in Zhuhai - at a Pharmacy on LHL. As I stayed in Chang An Hotel just went out to LHL and to the right (opposite side of the umbrella bars) Then it was the first pharmacy on the right hand side. Just showed them the picture of the littel vial that JK has put up here. No problems at all.

And the best thing - it works on me.

Best value for money for sure.

Mixus
11-15-06, 08:53
Dear All,

First time to ZhuHai, but very experience in ShenZheng & HK.

Like to know which ktv provides the best value in terms of chicks, price and fun. Will be going in early Dec with a bunch of friends.

Heard that price range is 1000rmb for 6 gals just having fun without sex. Is it true? Hope to hear from fellow experienced guys.

Regards,

Mixus

Loso69
11-15-06, 10:36
The last couple of days, Johnnykon666 showed me around his home town of Zhuhai. He was an extremely generous host & great company. Thanks a million for taking the time to show a newbie to China the (red) ropes.

Thanks for introducing me to some culinary delights. Thanks for saving me from being scammed at the Da Ming Yuan sauna. Never mind that last night's experience at the Jin Yu sauna turned out to be a horrible ordeal.

Hope our paths will cross again. You're a true gentleman.

Loso

PS
I'm the guy who took the "porn star" pictures Johhny posted.

Azn Playa
11-15-06, 11:02
Thanks for saving me from being scammed at the Da Ming Yuan sauna. Never mind that last night's experience at the Jin Yu sauna turned out to be a horrible ordeal.



Any chance you can expand on some these things you mention?

Im sure many of us would like to learn from your experiences, regardless of whether they are positive or negative.
The negatives can be very useful information for future reference!

Santa
11-15-06, 11:37
Santa:

Being in this situation is always a tough call. You can ask her to leave, but run the risk that she will refuse to go and demand the money anyway even though you did not finish the deed. I will usually feel them out first by suggesting that you want to find another girl that gives longer BBBJ to see it that motivates them to improve their service. This works with BBS girls since they know you can complain to the mamasan. SWs are another story because there is nowhere to complain.

I never bend to extortion so if the dialogue fails, I just cover up and proceed to the FS. If they play these scams from the start, who knows what you will end up with even for more money. I just chalk it up to bad luck and go find another one.

I am a firm believer in avoiding confrontation in China. It is just too easy for someone to get 5-6 thugs to kick the shit out of you over a few RMB. Case in point last week when we witnessed a confrontation between 2 BBS girls in Zhuhai. Within 10 minutes, 5 guys showed up willing to kick the shit out of one of the girls only to be stopped by the other girl first.

Just my POV.

OAH

Thanks for your replies. So what did I do? I said "no, I only pay 200rmb". Then she said she would leave and wanted the money. I said "no". After a few minutes of pouting she finally continued the blowjob and then the fuck. However, the service was no longer girlfriendly. It's a pity, she was very pretty and had good skills.

I agree with OAH. Do not bend to extortion, but avoid angry confrontation. Be firm, polite and calm.

Yuba Shiri
11-15-06, 17:23
Could anyone suggest best value hotel(s) in ZhuHai with wireless internet in the room? Will be staying for a couple of nights. Preferably at a hotel near where the actions are (aka Lian Hua Lu)

Loso69
11-16-06, 07:52
Johnnykon666 took me to the Xiang Jing Hotel sauna, as he knew I wanted to take pictures of the red ropes treatment. But the captain only showed me 2 line-ups, with no decent-looking girls. When we asked to see more girls, none were supposedly available. Johnnykon666 thought that was BS and we were off to the next place.

The Da Ming Yuan sauna doesn’t have red ropes and the captain only showed us 2 line-ups as well, but at least there were a few pretty ones. I picked Her Bing (#015) and Johnnykon666 talked to her to make sure I would be allowed to take pictures.

This was my 1st sauna experience in China and I thought I received pretty good service, so I gave the girl 200 RMB (150 RMB + 50RMB tip). Afterwards, I discovered that I didn’t get complete service – she left out the ass rimming, probably her least favorite part of the routine.

When we went to reception, I expected only to have to pay for the room, as I’d already paid the girl. But she considered the whole 200 RMB as a tip and didn’t fill in the form, so I was asked for the full amount. Johnnykon666 talked to them & the girl came down with the 200 RMB. As she tried to scam me, she lost her 50 RMB tip and won’t receive the 150 RMB she earned until the end of the month.

And the 50 RMB she lost by being greedy paid for Johnnykon666’s foot and head massage!

PS
I collect pictures of girls I’ve fucked. And although I only realized it after the facts, Her Bing was the 1000th girl to be added to the collection. A landmark!

Loso

Mongerxx
11-16-06, 09:25
I collect pictures of girls I’ve fucked. And although I only realized it after the facts, Her Bing was the 1000th girl to be added to the collection. A landmark!Hey Loso glad to see you hooked up with Johnny in Zhuhai. Holy moly that is a smoking hot picture of HerBing. I have never seen a hottie like that at Dau Ming. Shoot now the cheapest place in town now has hotties of this claiber -- Damn. I may have to splash in your cum puddles next month give #15 a spin, and I will make sure she licks my ass too. Her punishment will just go on and on. LOL

Sorry I couldn't be there with you guys, but post Ramadan was epic this year in Jakarta with an incredible influx of fresh kampong talent. But Johnny I will be your way for Xmas and New Years and we will have to monger hard.

Speaking of hard. Johnny I see you are doing a good job of spreading the word about them chinese boner pills. I am skeptical of herbal medical products but those things do actually work. However, I find there is some inconsistency in the ingredient amounts. Some capsules just seem to have more kick than others. But I must say I usually find myself grabbing for those pills instead of the cialis more and more.

RasSpewtin
11-18-06, 21:18
Guys:

I have some business coming up in Doumen, which I believe is part of the Zhuhai area. I tried to google for more information, but it is vague.

Could someone who has experience with working in the Doumen industrial zone please contact me via PM? I have a few general questions to ask.

Happy to exchange tips on SZ and ChangPing in exchange.

Thanks!
Raz

Superforce99
11-19-06, 10:24
Guys:

I have some business coming up in Doumen, which I believe is part of the Zhuhai area. I tried to google for more information, but it is vague.

Could someone who has experience with working in the Doumen industrial zone please contact me via PM? I have a few general questions to ask.

Happy to exchange tips on SZ and ChangPing in exchange.

Thanks!
Raz


Hope this helps.


J

Member #4515
11-19-06, 10:50
Chang Ping Is Most Exciting Palce That I Ever Seen In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Raverboy
11-19-06, 12:22
Johnnykon666,

Wondering how the mongering situation is in ZH in late Dec. just prior to XMas - in terms of selection, etc.

Cheers

Member #4515
11-19-06, 13:53
The Most Exciting Town In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.

Hi,

I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...

Would you please STOP capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!

Jackson

Cebu Local
11-20-06, 01:17
The Most Exciting Town In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.I guess the guy did not get the message, 2 strikes and waiting for the third for your bye bye Adios Amigo.Btw Chang Ping is under the Donguan District.

Superforce99
11-20-06, 02:34
Johnnykon666,

Wondering how the mongering situation is in ZH in late Dec. just prior to XMas - in terms of selection, etc.

Cheers


As far as my experince goes, nothing special happening at that time and too early for
crackdowns for Chinese New Year. Should be business as usual, but then again, I
don't run the Chinese government, the mafia, or the anything else that would affect
the situation...ha....

Have fun and stay safe.


J

MpfsLover
11-20-06, 09:43
Chang Ping Is Most Exciting Palce That I Ever Seen In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.



Big Top,

Nice job. She is a beauty.

Mpfslover

One Wing Low
11-20-06, 09:55
...starting on Dec15. What are the best things to do for a monger? I have no clue.

Can one cover HK, Macau, Shenzhen, Donguan in 7 days? I'd rather have quality over quantity anytime since the big gun is getting old and needs much time to reload....

Any local monger cares to hook up?

Ray Black
11-20-06, 13:03
Chang Ping Is Most Exciting Palce That I Ever Seen In China. Welcome To Join Me Next Month.Big Top, you have found gold. The most beautiful female seen on this or any other site! More pics?

Ray Black

Bill Lee
11-20-06, 13:37
Quality is always a hit or miss. One provider may give you better service than another. Depending how you treat her, how you look, how she feels that days, etc.

Based my own personal experience, I find that saunas anywhere are better service than KTV or SWs.

You're not too far from ZH, and JK666 and others has written quite well of it. Go there and try their saunas. Fairly inexpensive.

BTW, Macau and ZH are a border away from each other.

In HK, I would try the ******.com board. At least you can see the girls' pic and price before getting there. Also, their maps and pics are a great help to find their places.

The rest of the places all have saunas too. But I would not leave out some other things to try before leaving Asia. The Lisboa Casino's beauty pageant walk found in the basement level, CP warehouses in Donguan, Sha Tsui alleys in Shenzhen. All those are in the low end pricing (well, Lisboa is 500 HKD) and the services are quickies. But the girls are young and beautiful. Young, meaning 18 and up, if that's your type.

If you have a visa with limited entry, go to HK and Macau first before heading into China.

If you didn't get your visa yet, I know they are issuing multi-entry visas in the US as of last month. That's a many times as you want in a year to go in and out for about $170. But a two entry visa ($50 to $70?) might do for you, if you plan on going into Macau from China. But the HK sauna boat package might be better for you. Price wise, it's inclusive of the boat ride and the sauna fuck.

Have fun and fund,
Bill




...starting on Dec15. What are the best things to do for a monger? I have no clue.

Can one cover HK, Macau, Shenzhen, Donguan in 7 days? I'd rather have quality over quantity anytime since the big gun is getting old and needs much time to reload....

Any local monger cares to hook up?

Superforce99
11-22-06, 02:57
Been busy traveling in and out of ZH and combined with doing a few of my favorite
regulars, not much new stuff to post. I did get a chance to go around with a couple
of guys to LHL recently and can confirm that there is no more “crackdown” going on,
but there are still the regular police patrols going on.

This one little gal kept pestering me (seems whenever I shave, the little/younger gals
pester me and when I let my facial hair go wild, the older/sluttier ones pester me) and
she was just so cute I had to do her. Name is Xiao Ling and a nice, sassy gal from
Wuhan. Don’t let her young, innocent face fool you, she’s definitely street smart and
has probably been on the game for some time, although she says she’s been in Zhuhai
for only a month. About 5’2, cute button face, tiny A-cup breasts, and probably the
tightest pussy I’ve ever had in China…but that means ever, actually. If fucking Cutie
Pie (who I wrote about in an earlier post) was like being with your high school sweetheart,
this would be somewhat like screwing her best friend, ha…

She gives good, not great, service and I’d do her again mostly for the perverse pleasure
of looking at her and flashing back to my H.S. days…she does have a weird way to do
BBBJ, where she puts about 2/3 of your dick in her mouth and literally sucks on it like
a nipple…ha, ha…the feeling isn’t really good but not bad either and after she finished
about 2 minutes of that, I was grinning, trying to stop myself from all-out laughing, but
she took that as a sign I liked it and added another two minutes. After that, I had to take
a Chinese dictionary and show her the definitions of words like “unusual”, “not standard”,
and “weird”, but apparently, that’s not a good way to give an backhanded compliment
since she, again, took it as a sign I loved her weird BBBJ, and she proceeded to give me
more…ha, ha....if someone could help me out with a backhanded compliment in Chinese
I can use next time that would get the point across, then let me know. I’m looking for
something along the lines of, “You have a heavenly skill from the gods! I wish you could
do it forever!...OK, I’ve had enough, stop.”

Then we fucked in several positions, though she kept requesting missionary mostly, then
she took a shower and left. She’s not into kissing, touching, or DATY, so no GFE feeling
really except afterwards when she was making fun of my Chinese, I was making fun of
her Michael Jackson-like vitilligo skin condition under her armpits, and we tickled each
other until she gave up and consented to the pics you see below. She’s smiling pretty
broadly since I guess tickling puts people into a smiley mode, ha…

J


PS. Enjoy, Big H...ha, ha...

SE Asia Joe
11-22-06, 03:55
Been busy traveling in and out of ZH and combined with doing a few of my favorite
regulars, not much new stuff to post
..... smiling pretty
broadly since I guess tickling puts people into a smiley mode, ha…
PS. Enjoy, Big H...ha, ha...

Johnny - its always a highlight of the day for me to see a new post from you. Always informative and fun PLUS the fact that you sometimes post pictures alongside the report. Yeah I like the regular photo gallery - but there's usually little/not lots describing the gals/deed accompanying the pictures. Thus making the photo just that - a photo!
Your report accompanied by a picture makes it possible for me to sort of "ride alongside" you - and what rides you get!! GREAT!! Thanks and keep up the good work
SE Asia Joe

Raverboy
11-22-06, 10:44
Hoping some of you senior members can help me out here:

So I've RTFF for Zhuhai and for Dongguan. Almost end-to-end for both - still working on it :) Planning a trip late Dec. for a pre-XMas getaway. Will be a first time visitor to these parts but not my first visit to China and I speak Mandarin fairly fluently.

Problem is, I'm intrigued by too many things to arrive at a decision between the two: the concept of LHL in ZH on the one hand and the 'catacombs' in DG on the other. I am also intrigued by the sauna scene in both cities, although I would probably favour street pickups or FL pickups in the discos over the saunas, with the exception of the infamous 'red ropes'.

Then there's Amazon. I am hesitant to miss a chance at walking the gauntlet between 200-400 mei meis vying for your attention.

So. An informal poll here if I may: Which would you recommend to a first time visitor given time constraints - I would only have 2-3 days and visiting both would likely be pushing it.

Thanks in advance!

(Also posted in the DG thread)

Superforce99
11-23-06, 04:19
Hoping some of you senior members can help me out here:

So I've RTFF for Zhuhai and for Dongguan. Almost end-to-end for both - still working on it :) Planning a trip late Dec. for a pre-XMas getaway. Will be a first time visitor to these parts but not my first visit to China and I speak Mandarin fairly fluently.

Problem is, I'm intrigued by too many things to arrive at a decision between the two: the concept of LHL in ZH on the one hand and the 'catacombs' in DG on the other. I am also intrigued by the sauna scene in both cities, although I would probably favour street pickups or FL pickups in the discos over the saunas, with the exception of the infamous 'red ropes'.

Then there's Amazon. I am hesitant to miss a chance at walking the gauntlet between 200-400 mei meis vying for your attention.

So. An informal poll here if I may: Which would you recommend to a first time visitor given time constraints - I would only have 2-3 days and visiting both would likely be pushing it.

Thanks in advance!

(Also posted in the DG thread)


If you only have 2-3 days and your intent is to fuck as many gals as you can from BBS, street,
KTV, and super-low end shit, then definately go to CP. It's a city built on the mongering industry
so you could fuck, eat, and sing to your heart's content for a few days before it gets boring.

Zhuhai offers less-intense concentrations of girls per square meter, but there is still plenty. The nice
thing is that there are nice seaside areas, hot springs, golf courses, and other attractions within
a reasonable distance in addition to pussy galore. All that non-pussy stuff is available around CP as well,
but not as close like they are to ZH. But since you're only in the area a few days, I'm assuming you
will want your cock in a mouth/pussy/ass, eat, sing, more cock play, rinse, and repeat, so it's kind
of a moot point anyway.


J

Crazier
11-24-06, 00:04
this one little gal kept pestering me (seems whenever i shave, the little/younger gals
pester me and when i let my facial hair go wild, the older/sluttier ones pester me) and
she was just so cute i had to do her. name is xiao ling and a nice, sassy gal from
wuhan. don’t let her young, innocent face fool you, she’s definitely street smart and
has probably been on the game for some time, although she says she’s been in zhuhai
for only a month

jk,

thanks for the time with us in zhuhai the other day and your helpful calls in recent days too.

looking at the timeline of this fr, (and these pics) i do not believe that this is the same truly young cutie that was pestering you when i was with you in lhl's outdoor cafe waiting on laguy.

that girl was even younger and in my eyes than almost ****!

however, as with this girl, a real born street smart "young adult" who knows exactly how to extract every ounce of yuan from your pocket!

perhaps, we might see you in cp this weekend?

Superforce99
11-24-06, 02:10
jk,

thanks for the time with us in zhuhai the other day and your helpful calls in recent days too.

looking at the timeline of this fr, (and these pics) i do not believe that this is the same truly young cutie that was pestering you when i was with you in lhl's outdoor cafe waiting on laguy.

that girl was even younger and in my eyes than almost ****!

however, as with this girl, a real born street smart "young adult" who knows exactly how to extract every ounce of yuan from your pocket!

perhaps, we might see you in cp this weekend?


hey crazier,

this is definately the same gal that was bothering me while you were "working" on softening up
your lookout gal...see what a difference putting her hair up/down will do? she actually had her hair
up when i first met her, giving her the super-young look we both spied initially, but after fucking/tickling,
she was a bit messier than when she arrived at my place.

i guess between her, the other zh petite cuties, and my little honey mamasan jr. in cp, you can
see i can't resist these types of gals, ha ha...

j

Crazier
11-26-06, 18:10
JK.,

I was trying to connect with you today before I left but your phone was off so I went and did the Jinyu Hotel sauna with the 2 hours I had at hand. Selected the same small girl No 102 again and she allowed me to film the "red rope" sequences that I missed the last time so it was worth the "distraction".

I had saved the "load" for my massage "darling" in Chang Ping but she called after work ad 3am to plead not to visit as she was TIRED out since it was a busy Sat for them in Chang Ping. Well. at least No 102 had her share of my "power-release!"

C.

Superforce99
11-26-06, 18:15
Crazier, glad you had a good time, somewhat, ha ha...

And to you, Crazier, and the other few people I was to have met over these past few days, sorry my phone
has been switched off. It just means I'm not in ZH at the moment. I'm in Northern China at the moment
and will be back sometime in the next week, I hope. Post a msg or PM me if you need any help or suggestions
in ZH and I'll do my best to help.


J

Azn Playa
11-27-06, 13:08
Hey Crazier,

This is DEFINATELY the same gal that was bothering me while you were "working" on softening up
your lookout gal...see what a difference putting her hair up/down will do? She actually had her hair
up when I first met her, giving her the super-young look we both spied initially, but after fucking/tickling,
she was a bit messier than when she arrived at my place.

I guess between her, the other ZH petite cuties, and my little honey mamasan jr. in CP, you can
see I can't resist these types of gals, ha ha...

J

Looking at the pics of Xiao Ling, and the info youve provided, Im sure she is the same girl that was hanging around me the other day. She had her hair tied back really tight, and lots of white makeup on her face which made her look quite different to your pics. Certainly had the look of experience to her. Chatted to some chinese locals who drink on LHL every night and they said she has been working the strip for about a year. She tried her luck with several taiwanese guys walking by, but they all flicked her and she ended up back to the spot next to where I was sitting. Think I need to give her some more attention this weekend and she what she is like for myself (will do my best to get some pics too, for comparisons).

Superforce99
12-01-06, 04:35
After a tepid experience in Beijing and North China, it was nice to return to the warmer
weather and warmer gals of South China. After putting my things away, I immediately
called up a regular LHL gal. She’s busy, ofcourse…well, well, well…what to do?

Luckily, I had a couple of new LHL numbers I horded last week while walking around
with a visiting monger. Totally forgot who is who and what they look like, but that just
adds to the fun of Russian roulette pussy. Called up Xiao Xiao and she somehow
remembered who I was and who I was with when she gave me her number based on
a general description of my physical appearance and my voice. Crazy, these girls should
be recruited by Hu Jintao for the Chinese secret police, if they haven’t already been.

She comes over to my place and I’m pleasantly surprised by her looks; a nice combination
of innocence and slutty in my eyes, ha ha…she’s sassy and playful but starts pestering
me to take her all night from the getgo, which mean, ofcourse, I won’t be. She also noticed
that another LHL had written her name on some scrap paper on my coffee table during
an impromptu Chinese character writing lesson. She said, “Hey, Xiao Ling, I know her.
When did you do her? Yesterday?” I tried to plead ignorance but she laughed it off. Then
She stripped to reveal a big flower tattoo on her left breast. I kind of laugh since it looks
pretty lame AND it’s fake. She seems to agree but she said it was her mamasan’s idea,
and when she wears low-cut clothing with a push-up bra, it works pretty well to attract
guys and as a conversation starter. I told her it was still lame, ha ha…


She’s about 5’3, plump almost to be chubby but not yet a fatty (she said she took 10 days
off recently because of her period and some other illness and did nothing but watch TV
and eat and eat…and eat). Good sized 34 C breasts and nice skin on her face and body.
We took a nice mutual shower where she insisted on washing everything and then onto
the bed for service. Interesting BBBJ where she kind of licks your balls and shafts in a
slow methodical way leading to a slow methodical sucking of the whole shaft. I’m making
it sound better than it is, but I’m wondering where these gals learn BJs and who’s filling
their heads with the opinion that they are actually good at it…anyway, after 10 minutes
or so of BBBJ, she looked up at me and said, “I know this is great service, right? Take
me for LT!” and I had to laugh again and tell her BBBJ was mildly good at best, which
meant no more BBBJ immediately, ofcourse. Well, no big loss there. The FS was good
and energetic and she was enthusiastic. Cleaned up, then she left with 200 + 20 for taxi.
OK experience, but I wouldn’t repeat, though I have the feeling that repeat sessions with
Xiao Xiao would get progressively better and more passionate, judging from her personality
and physical reactions.

At this point, I guess I could have gone to sleep or whatever, but the beauty of Zhuhai
is that there are so many options at your fingertips 24 hours a day. So, take a midnight
snack of BBQ and some chicken soup at a small restaurant near my apt and head off to
Da Ming Yuan. I only chose this place because it’s physically closest to where I live and
it’s dependable in a “middle-of-the-road-or-better experience everytime” way. Got
there and it was BUSY. Damn…Wednesday night, midnight-ish…guess all the time
is DMY time in ZH. Got a room after a 5 minute wait then looked through the lineups.
It was a pretty weak lineup, I gotta say. Saw about 25 gals and only even thought about
doing 1 or 2. Either get an ass-licking, dick sucking, pussy fuckingly OK time or go home…
well, I’ll opt for the former. Forgot the gal’s name but she was #691 from some small
village in Hebei and been working in DMY for 3 months after about 6 months working
in a Dongguan hotel. One thing that stands out about this gal is that she had a genuine
smile and was almost giddy most of the time. Not in a drugged out way, but just a naturally
happy person, I guess. It made everything more playful and relaxed. Her service is nice
and she pays attention to small details like gently washing your face in the shower, drying
you off after the shower, and just chatting with you in general. I did learn that a large
minority of foreigners that go to DMY usually opt for no liquids/licking/sucking service
and just have the girl give them a breast massage then give them a handjob while they
play with a girl’s breasts. Ha ha…not the ISG mongers that I know, but she said she hasn’t
had much experience herself, but all the gals talk to each other about customers and their
experiences.

Overall service was OK, nothing special. BBBJ was good, if not a little too enthusiastic,
and she was tight and wet and had nice plump body similar to Xiao Xiao. I pulled out and
asked her for a BBBJCIM but she insisted on a condom for CIM, so she finished me off
with a CBJ which was pretty good actually. I even asked her to use a vibrator to stimulate
my balls and shaft while she sucked, but it ran out of power after a few seconds, which gave
us both a chuckle. I suggested she stop using the vibrator on herself between customers
and she smile and kept sucking. In fact, I had several conversations with OAH at about
this time and she didn’t bat an eye and kept her mouth magic going on my balls and shaft.

Paid her 150 directly and then paid up 110 at the front desk with the VIP card. Went home
and had a nice restful sleep. Good to be back in ZH…

J


You can't really see it from her clothing, but this gal has some huge breasts. She said she wasn't
wearing as revealing clothing for now until she loses that extra weight she's gained recently...ha ha...

Chung 2
12-02-06, 09:08
Dear fellow member,

Going to Zhuhai and Zhong Shang at coming Monday 4/12-8/12.

Does anyone want to join?

Cebu Local
12-03-06, 23:43
Yes Southern China is defenitely more hospitable during Winter.As a Travel update,When the Sky Pier at HK airport is expanded,They will inaugurate direct ferry service between Zhuhai and HK Airport.So our beloved City will become more accesibile and While the Govt is cracking down on the Sex industry in Shenzen and GZ,It will continue to be tolerated within limits in Zhuhai,and Yes,If I sound Pro Zhuhai. I work with the Zhuhai Tourism Board as a Travel industry partner.My company is now one of the largest producers of Filipino Tourists to Zhuhai

One Wing Low
12-04-06, 22:49
I have 4 days in China starting in SZ. I want to visit the good mongering spots like Dongguan, ZHuhai, Macau etc...

What is the best transportation means to do this? How far are Dongguan and Zhuhai from SZ.

Please advise. Thanks.

Fast Eddie 48
12-05-06, 07:04
I have 4 days in China starting in SZ. I want to visit the good mongering spots like Dongguan, ZHuhai, Macau etc...

What is the best transportation means to do this? How far are Dongguan and Zhuhai from SZ.

Please advise. Thanks.


to one wing low

Dongguan is a large area it depend where in Donggguan , cp is far if you take
the new express way is about 2 hour by private car will be the fastest ,if you are in humen area west Dongguan is only 1hr 30 min , express bus take about
longer because stop to pick up customer last time I take the bus from cp it take almost 3 hr it make 2 stop in zhongshan .

fast eddie 48

Peterhk
12-08-06, 02:47
250 RMB regular room and 280 superior room

I went and they showed me about 20 girls or so. Keep remembering their numbers, you may want to call back if no bettter ones show up (they come in 4s). Don't feel shy to ask for seeing more girls.

First had a nice shower where she cleaned me well, then a hot/cold massage where she rubbed her titts on my back and front on a wet-bed in the shower.

Massage included rimming and extensive blow-jobs. Be carefull, they want you to cum here so no fuck is needed, but that... yeah!... is included as well. The blow job included fire&ice, and she had coconut milk as well. Afterwards she bubbled with cold water in her mouth around my whole body. Refreshing!

A great service for that price, can't be topped I guess.... Or maybe it can! Come together with 3 other friends (4 minimum), and you'll get a VIP card for discount on your next visit.

Dai Ming Yu rocks =)

Orientalovers
12-12-06, 04:27
Yesterday night received this issue:

HSA issues health warning on illegal penis erecting product
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 11 December 2006 1956 hrs

SINGAPORE : The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) has issued a warning against the use of an illegal penis erecting product.

HSA says the "Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule" is not a licensed product and has been found to contain Sildenafil, a substance that comes under the Poisons Act.

It says Sildenafil should only be taken when prescribed by a medical doctor.

Side-effects may include sudden loss of vision, or death in patients with heart conditions.

The public is advised not to consume the capsules, and to report sales of such illegal products to the authorities. - CNA /ls

Superforce99
12-12-06, 06:49
Yesterday night received this issue:

HSA issues health warning on illegal penis erecting product
By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 11 December 2006 1956 hrs

SINGAPORE : The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) has issued a warning against the use of an illegal penis erecting product.

HSA says the "Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule" is not a licensed product and has been found to contain Sildenafil, a substance that comes under the Poisons Act.

It says Sildenafil should only be taken when prescribed by a medical doctor.

Side-effects may include sudden loss of vision, or death in patients with heart conditions.

The public is advised not to consume the capsules, and to report sales of such illegal products to the authorities. - CNA /ls


Interesting....so I guess it's chemistry and not powdered bull penis that does the trick...

Oh, well, no adverse side effects (besides exhausted, satisfied females who think my
performance comes from being love with them) so I guess I will continue taking them.

Love live Chi-agra!


J

Superforce99
12-12-06, 07:00
I have 4 days in China starting in SZ. I want to visit the good mongering spots like Dongguan, ZHuhai, Macau etc...

What is the best transportation means to do this? How far are Dongguan and Zhuhai from SZ.

Please advise. Thanks.


I just took a private car from ZH to CP last Friday. Tons of available drivers around the Gongbei
border area and bus station. Just walk up and start discussing.. Opening price was 500 RMB one way
and I negotiated to 350 RMB. I think it should be closer to 300 or less but I was in a hurry.
Car was early 90's Audi and ride was OK, nothing strange went on and no "passing" my friend
and I to other drivers. Guy drove slowly out of ZH but once on the more remote parts of the
highway, he was burning rubber and we got to Miraton about 2 hours exactly. He didn't
know where the Miraton was exactly, so brought me to the CP train station where I took a private
car to Miraton 5-10 minutes away.

This method saves approximately 1 hour over taking the bus from ZH to CP but costs about
4x more (80 RMB vs 350 RMB) but after splitting with a friend, it was a bit more reasonable
(80 RMB vs 175 RMB), and, hey, 1 hour of my time is worth more than 95 RMB...

J

Santa
12-12-06, 19:04
SINGAPORE : The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) has issued a warning against the use of an illegal penis erecting product.

HSA says the "Santi Bovine Penis Erecting Capsule" is not a licensed product and has been found to contain Sildenafil, a substance that comes under the Poisons Act.

It says Sildenafil should only be taken when prescribed by a medical doctor.



For those who do not know, sildenafil is viagra.

Crazier
12-13-06, 01:20
I just took a private car from ZH to CP last Friday. Tons of available drivers around the Gongbei
border area and bus station. Just walk up and start discussing.. Opening price was 500 RMB one way
and I negotiated to 350 RMB. I think it should be closer to 300 or less but I was in a hurry.
Car was early 90's Audi and ride was OK, nothing strange went on and no "passing" my friend
and I to other drivers. Guy drove slowly out of ZH but once on the more remote parts of the
highway, he was burning rubber and we got to Miraton about 2 hours exactly. He didn't
know where the Miraton was exactly, so brought me to the CP train station where I took a private
car to Miraton 5-10 minutes away.

This method saves approximately 1 hour over taking the bus from ZH to CP but costs about
4x more (80 RMB vs 350 RMB) but after splitting with a friend, it was a bit more reasonable
(80 RMB vs 175 RMB), and, hey, 1 hour of my time is worth more than 95 RMB...

J

JK.,

Its A-OK for you cos you speak Mandarin fluently and, living there, you have a better sense about you and ability to constantly stay aware of the comings and goings of these locally based drivers many of whom have a reputation of 'doing the next idiot foreigner in".

I would not recommend an obvious "Kweilo" foreigner (who is new to Zhuhai / China and cannot speak local language) to use these drivers because anything can happen including being driven somewhere and being robbed.

The savings of 200-300 yuans off the costs of using a "well recommended and trackable" car from a reputable travel agent or provider is not worth the additional risk. 200-300 yuans is negligible when you consider what a person could lose overall.

Happy bonking!

Member #3918
12-13-06, 12:10
I would not recommend an obvious "Kweilo" foreigner (who is new to Zhuhai / China and cannot speak local language) to use these drivers because anything can happen including being driven somewhere and being robbed.

The savings of 200-300 yuans off the costs of using a "well recommended and trackable" car from a reputable travel agent or provider is not worth the additional risk. 200-300 yuans is negligible when you consider what a person could lose overall.

Happy bonking!Good advice. If you are new to Zhuhai and need assistance, please contact my friend Stanley at [Email address deleted by Admin]. He is a freelance tour guide.

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Superforce99
12-13-06, 18:40
My crazy CP freebie is gone now, so going to CP will be more free and pleasant now and
I am posting to see if there are any mongers in Zhuhai interested in going to CP on Fridays on a regular
basis. I will go via private taxi to CP because I hate the ZH-CP bus ride. Going this/next Friday and for
the foreseeable future. I think it's a safer, faster way to get to CP (and the bountiful pussy) from Zhuhai.

Anyway, cost would be about 160-175 RMB per person if only you + me, and then the cost per person goes
down about 40-50 for each additional guy who comes along. So, if 3 guys came via the private taxi, it'd be about
120 RMB/2 hours per person vs. 80 RMB/3 hours for the bus. PM or post if interested.

J

Crazier
12-14-06, 02:14
Hey JK.,

In case nobody takes up your offer,

The CTS bus goes direct from and to CP from Gongbei and the cost is 68 yuans. Its a decent bus which seems to be low on passenger load when I travelled and definitely something I could recommend as compared with the Xiangzhou - CP bus that I used many times in the past.

Call either :

+86 756 8328936

or +86 769 83918888

to enquire timings and to book.

The only drawback is the timings which I don't like but its a good service that I used my last trip back from CP to Zhuhai.

CP to Zhuhai - daily at 8.45 am

Gongbei, Zhuhai to CP - daily at 5.30pm (not sure of this timing but around that time). Might suit you cos you can finish work and still get to CP in time for the night's revelry just a little late!

C.

Superforce99
12-14-06, 03:08
Hey JK.,

In case nobody takes up your offer,

The CTS bus goes direct from and to CP from Gongbei and the cost is 68 yuans. Its a decent bus which seems to be low on passenger load when I travelled and definitely something I could recommend as compared with the Xiangzhou - CP bus that I used many times in the past.

Call either :

+86 756 8328936

or +86 769 83918888

to enquire timings and to book.

The only drawback is the timings which I don't like but its a good service that I used my last trip back from CP to Zhuhai.

CP to Zhuhai - daily at 8.45 am

Gongbei, Zhuhai to CP - daily at 5.30pm (not sure of this timing but around that time). Might suit you cos you can finish work and still get to CP in time for the night's revelry just a little late!

C.


Thanks for the info, C.

For me, it's more that I can't stand spending so much time in the bus. I've taken two different buses
to CP, one from Xiangzhou and another from near the Gongbei station. Both suck and take a long ass time.
I'm the type to pay more to save time but I know a lot of mongers don't mind the extra hour on the bus though.
But for those that do mind, let's save time/money together.


J

Crazier
12-14-06, 05:09
JK.,

This bus is not luxurious but, the clientele tend to be a higher end class of locals and some foreigners (usually foreign Chinese from Spore / Malaysia etc).

It was pretty empty (only 8 of us in a 25 seater) and it left CP at 8.45 sharp.

I was in Zhuhai by 11am underground at the Immigration point shopping centre and it was a Sunday late morning, last trip.

Perhaps you want to check it out yourself to see if it is an improvement to the other two buses, one of which I have used (Xiangzhou a few times).

For me, the major drawback of this is the early departure time in CP and the rather late departure time from GB.

My preference is for a good private MPV if I have at least 1 other person to share with. Unfortunately, on my last trip out, I was alone & the miser in me does not allow me to be paying 500 - 600 rmb alone. I found the ride out to be absolutely good in that bus that morning!

Bill Lee
12-15-06, 09:54
They were out by 2:00 p.m. I saw at least 20 Sws.

Damn, they were all out. Even the hot little one that I turn down last night was out.

There was also a cat and mouse show with the SW and LE.

I returned to the hotel and called Angie and she showed up 20 minutes later. All bubbly and ready to go.

After 20 of slow rumping, came and Angie treated me like an used rag. Got off top of me and proceeded to get dressed like a real pro that she is.

Damn nice session with her. Not the tightest pussy in the world but better than the loose pussy I had in BKK.

Bill

John Siron
12-20-06, 16:31
Was at Lianhua Lu this evening around 9pm. Sat down for coffee and the girls kept coming on to us non stop. I never pickup girls on LHL as I find it a little dangerous. The coffee girls told us that some guy got beaten up by some pimps recently for talking to a girl for awhile but not asking her out. Also, they also told us that a Malaysian guy got extorted by a pimp for 200rmb because he didn't want to take a girl she sat down to talk with him. He wanted to pay 50 but she wouldn't accept and then he offered 100 and she still didn't accept. At the end, the pimp asked for 200!

Also went to Junhao Hotel sauna (around 530rmb for one pop) to check out the quality of the girls. It is the same owner as the Holiday Resort Hotel sauna (around 888 for one pop). The quality wasn't that good so we then went to the Holiday Resort. At the end, both places weren't up to par. Usually the Holiday Resort Hotel sauna girls are model quality, but this week in Zhuhai.... something is wrong. They were pretty ugly and fat!

Came down to Zhuhai to play but at the end, didn't get to do much. We go for quality, not quantity. Too bad, so sad.... until next time...

Hippie
12-20-06, 18:19
I'll be spending NYE in Zhuhai, arriving about 10PM, then heading on to Angeles City the next day. I have only spent one previous night there, and it looked interesting but I was not feeling well. Anyone want to hook up, or are there any parties or anything going on? I'll be happy to buy a few drinks. I am staying at the Hotel Fortune right by the Macao entry port again, unless someone has a better suggestion.

Hey Crazier, I know MongerX said he is thinking about changing his holiday destination to Jakarta. What about you? Any chance you will be in Zhuhai?

One Wing Low
12-21-06, 00:41
I haggled with Sali about the fare going from Chong Ping to ZhuHai, finally agreed on 500Y. The drive from Chong Ping took 2.5 hours. The high way is 6 lanes of new, clean pavement. Road signs are all dual Chinese/English. On either sides of the highways are mostly vacant land with occasional industrial parks and univeritites.Traffic was very light. Sali was going at about 50 MPH.

ZhuHai is a leafy seaside resort town with fancy hotels, restaurants, stores... Got in at about 2:30, checked into the GuangDong Regency hotel on Lotus road, walked the 2 short blocks to the famous Luhoulu shoppping area. There were thousands of people strolling the street or sitting around open air bars, drinking.

Despite the recent crack downs, there were hundreds of very good-looking young, sexy girls strolling the street looking for johns. Girls are everywhere, wall-to-wall, some look very young and very pretty. I just sat down to have a cup of coffee. A bunch of sweet-looking girls swarmed around us, speaking long strings of Chinese, smiling shyly, tugging on me trying to sell their company. We seem to attract them like flies! They pass out little cards with their Chinese names and tel numers. The guys said it's 200Y for ST and 500Y all night. This must be a paradise. I should have skipped all other places in the world and come here first. The hundreds of young girls are extremely sweet-looking, probably the best in China, donning hip street clothes. Finally decided to go with Bin Bin, the sweetest-looking young girl, taking her back to the hotel. The guys said, do her or you may not see her again.

Bin Bin has a small, lean but proportionate body without blemishes. Her breasts are 2 round B-sized melons hanging way out in front of her small frame. She has the sweet face of models, always smiling sweetly. Besides some light eye shade, she wears no make up or fragrance. Her lips are naturally bright pink without lipstick. She was always giggling and very talkative with long strings of CHinese which I did not understand 1 word. We were kidding around in sign language, then she went for the shower. I waited with the camera ready as she came out with a towel around her lithe body. She immediately covered herself up, ran back to the toilet with long strings of protest and pouting.

Got her on the bed. She was playing with my dick, trying to get it hard with a BBBJ. She was smiling sweetly, making a lot of comments about my dick and the rest of my body which I did not understand. She got on me CG, closed her eyes and started pumping me. It was a very sweet sight. Pinned her down in bed, doing missionary. She had her eyes closed, both arms embracing my lower back, actively participated in each thrust. She was moaning and hissing out of her sexy mouth. I sucked on her soft and creamy breasts and her peachy young face. There was a faint smell of sweat from her silky black hair. I came big time and she was still bucking under me trying to prolong the ride.

Like other CHinese girls, she was really enjoying sex and not afraid to show it. This must be some of the best and cheapest sex I ever had. These Chinese girls are expressive, better looking, have better manners, feel much better in the sack, and seem to be much happier than street girls anywhere else.

ZhuHai would beat all other mongering locations in my book. I made plans to cancel future visits to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brazil, Argentina....This is the only mongering place worth going for my taste of beauties....

Azn Playa
12-22-06, 07:58
I haggled with Sali about the fare going from Chong Ping to ZhuHai, finally agreed on 500Y. The drive from Chong Ping took 2.5 hours. The high way is 6 lanes of new, clean pavement. Road signs are all dual Chinese/English. On either sides of the highways are mostly vacant land with occasional industrial parks and univeritites.Traffic was very light. Sali was going at about 50 MPH.

ZhuHai is a leafy seaside resort town with fancy hotels, restaurants, stores... Got in at about 2:30, checked into the GuangDong Regency hotel on Lotus road, walked the 2 short blocks to the famous Luhoulu shoppping area. There were thousands of people strolling the street or sitting around open air bars, drinking.

. . .

We were kidding around in sign language, then she went for the shower. I waited with the camera ready as she came out with a towel around her lithe body. She immediately covered herself up, ran back to the toilet with long strings of protest and pouting.

. . .

ZhuHai would beat all other mongering locations in my book. I made plans to cancel future visits to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brazil, Argentina....This is the only mongering place worth going for my taste of beauties....

Please dont consider this to be a flame - just some observations and comments:

You mention that the traffic was very light from CP to ZH yet your driver was travelling at 50mph = 80kmh. I would expect a driver to be hitting at least 100kmh or more on the highways. This is probably why it took 2.5 hours! And considering you spent 500RMB it doesnt sound like good value for money.

The girl's reaction to your camera is not surprising! As you couldn't give reasons to her in Chinese, it would appear to her that your sole objective for taking her is to get naked pics. Even if this is true, you should have tried to bring the camera out in a more subtle way after getting things started on the bed and made her hot and less caring about the camera being there. A good way to soften her up is to take some g-rated pics first with you in them with her.

Its good to hear that you liked ZH, but calling off other travel plans because of what you found in ZH is a bit extreme. Yeah some sweeties can be found on LHL but I feel that the GFE on average is lower compared to other places eg. Chang Ping, The Philippines and other SE Asian destinations.
This is because many of the hotter girls are more mercenary and trying to get back on the street as fast as possible (if going for a ST). Personally I think the Sauna girls in ZH are better value as you receive virtually guaranteed service and the time with the girl is fixed.

200ST/500LT = $25/$63 is not bad but I wouldn't call it cheap. $25 is more than you need to pay for LT in Cambodia and in Thailand you can find plenty of pussy for $27-40LT (and used to be cheaper before the THB gained strength). If you know your way around Saigon then girls can be had for $50 a night. Even less if you know a local resident (or make friends with one) who can give you one of his regulars.

Santa
12-23-06, 17:50
Despite the recent crack downs, there were hundreds of very good-looking young, sexy girls strolling the street looking for johns. ....

I think this is an exageration by a guy who was over excited at finding pretty pussy in China. There are never "hundreds" of girls strolling the street "looking for johns" on Lian Hua Lu. About 15 is more like it, 30 on a good night.

On a busy shopping day there may be hundreds of females, but they are not all hookers.

Also, many of them don't want white guys and they often give bad service.

Still, there are lots of sex workers in Zhuhai, mostly in saunas and ktvs, and it's a nice town to visit. One of my favorites.

Ace Gallant
12-24-06, 02:00
I think this is not true, and I think Johnny Kon will confirm. You will never see "hundreds" of girls on Lian Hua Lu looking for johns. The most I have ever seen was maybe thirty or forty, and that was on a very busy night about a year ago, at times I have seen only three or four.

The best time is around 2:30 am to 3:30am. At the north end of the umbrella stands about twenty sauna girls will gather on the corner looking for customers. The problem is, most of these Zhuhai girls do not want to fuck white guys and the service is often bad.

I think he counted in the girls in the Umbrella Bars, the girls in the tourist shops, the girls working in the restaurants, the girls working in the hotels and of course those female beggers.

I was there, met/monger with One Wing Low and therefore I can agree with One Wing Low that there were hundred of girls if you count in the above.

AG

Jon1211
12-25-06, 08:43
Special situation is that a deaf Chinese tourist / monger is supposed to sit and drink in the shopping mall or anywhere, five or more Zhu Hai girls come to him, there is no communications problem because they all can make the written communication in same Chinese language, they should give him their email addresses for instant message or email message if some of them know some simple basic English words. Their cell phones should contain email addresses that can setup. Have you heard about this situation?

Jon1211

OldAsiaHand
12-25-06, 13:21
Bill Lee and I drove down to Zhuhai from Guangzhou to hook-up with One Wing Low, Santa and AG. As it turns out, Santa missed the train from Shanghai and came in the following morning. Johnnykon666 had booked the GDH on the corner of YueHai and LHL for us. We paid 400RMB for deluxe rooms with great views of the bay. Bill, OWL and I met at LHL to check out the SW action while waiting for AG to come over on the ferry from Hong Kong.

As a laowai, I get an inferiority complex on LHL since 90% of the girls only approach the Asian guys. I reckon as high as 50% do not do white guys at all; YMMV. There was this one Hubei girl that approached OWL that I wanted to do, but she was not very laowai friendly. However, she hung around since I guess she was on the fence about it. OWL and Bill made their choices so I grabbed the Hubei girl anyway. It was all downhill from there. Service was rushed, after which she showered and dressed quickly. I gave her the standard 200 RMB and she threw the money at me. I picked it up and gave it back. She threw it on the floor again. She was pouting and started to tell me that foreigners pay her 300, 400, even 800 sometimes. I kept telling her that I was not them and I pay the same as Asian punters. She got very nasty and refused to leave. I called Bill over for reinforcement and after an extended shouting match and a bit of a struggle; Bill picked up the phone to call hotel security as she ran over and disconnected the line. This effort evidently scared her enough to ask for 10 RMB taxi fare (go figure) which I gave her as she stormed out of the room. I find myself in this situation a few times a year when I do not agree on the price upfront even though the rate is standard 200 RMB on LHL. Having said that, OWL paid 500 RMB evidently not understanding when Bill told him it was only 200 beforehand.

After AG and Johnnykon666 showed up, we had an excellent massage on LHL, followed by a great seafood dinner. One of Johnny’s regulars showed up and she was close to a 9. OWL and Bill were drooling and they both decided to do her later in the evening. Johnny obliged being the true gentleman he is. We took a tour of the BBS area and AG and I pulled some girls for 150 ST after the one I wanted to do attempted to extort 300 RMB from me thinking I just arrived in China the day before. My BBS girl’s service was again disappointing although I have to give her an “A” for effort. It was just a matter of inexperience on the job.

Continued on S. China - All Areas thread

Raverboy
12-25-06, 13:32
Am now in Beijing to maintain personal contacts and to establish new ones. Having read this thread (and the Dongguan one) from end to end and being intrigued by the opportunities that ZH and CP presented, I was initially hard-pressed to make a decision as to which to visit for the first time. Thanks to various inputs specifically from JK and OAH, etc. I decided on ZH and must say that in retrospect I was initially overwhelmed but overall slightly disappointed.

Logistics

Arrived in Guangzhou's Baiyun airport last Friday afternoon with a reservation at ZH's Chang An Great Aim Hotel ( 昌安华策酒店 ). The airport bus which runs every hour or so - I think there are 14 trips daily in total, took 2.5 hours and cost RMB 85 one way. The passengers were entirely Chinese and so be prepared for the art of Chinese queing / lining up, push and shove for your luggage and you'll be fine. The bus made two quick stops to let off passengers before arriving at its terminal just east of Gongbei port. There are two main bus terminals but the entire area north of the border crossing is a logistical nightmare of buses, taxis, motorcycles, pedestrians and touts - albeit demonstrating chinese travel efficiency at its best. If you face the border crossing complex on the ZH side the terminal for the bus to/from Baiyun airport is to your far left.

The walk from the bus terminal took all but 10 mins, less if I were to be perfectly oriented. Located one intersection north of where the pedestrian portion of LHL begins and at RMB 282 / night (weekend rate) for a standard single, the price and location was hard to beat. Just across the street was 天地人间 (tian1 di4 ren2 jian1), a busy disco that went to 8 in the morning on weekends. More about that later.

The Good

A little ironic that although my main purpose to visit ZH was to monger, I found 'the good' in a wonderfully new CLEAN sauna/spa complex located in the ji2 da4 ( 吉大 ) district of ZH about a 15 min. cab ride (20 RMB) from gongbei. I soaked to my heart's content in various hot pools (there are about 10 varieties), baked in the sauna, had a well-administered 2-hr aromatherapy massage and gave the masseuse a RMB 20 tip, all for the amazing price of RMB 148 !!! If you dispense with any massage services the door fee is RMB 78 which allows you the use of their facilities including mahjong rooms, movie theatrette and a buffet meal. However if you partake in 'chargeable' services that amount to a minimum of RMB 128, they waive the door fee. This is a gem of place which I will share with you here but please understand that this is a clean, 'family' type place also ideal for couples - massage rooms are set up with 2 massage tables which allow for couples to partake together. Did I mention they are open 24 hours? Do note that the customers are mostly local chinese and my fluency in mandarin allowed me blend in with the rest of them. In the main lobby all explanations and literature on their pricing system was in chinese but I hope the above will give non-mandarin speakers an idea of what to expect should you choose to visit.

Jiu Zhou shui hui (九州水会), literally "Jiuzhou water club". Same owners as or in parternship with the disco tian di ren jian mentioned above. Saw an ad or two for them on LHL. The cab drivers would know where.

The Bad

I have a whole stack of phone numbers given to me by LHL girls, and I did not ask for a single one. They'll come to you and you'd have a real problem should you not be approached! Sitting at the green umbrella cabanas does not give you any immunity from them at all. Even a quick glance or a split second eye contact gives them reason to approach you. The girls were mostly 5 or 6s with a few 7 or 8s. At RMB 10 / bottle of tsingtao I was content to while away the early evenings here while scouting talent.

Although a little overwhelming at first I quickly settled in. Took two girls (one each night) back for ST but found the service to be too quick - too business-like, unenthusiastic and uninspiring. zero GFE. I spoke with a fellow customer at the cabana and he called it kuai can ( 快餐 ) - fast food, and it was exactly that. Both girls tried for the upsell (to ON) within the first 10 mins of service. Declined both. I will dispense with the names and contact numbers as they are just not worthwhile.

The Ugly

Decided to check out the disco on my last night in the hopes of scoring a FL. Arrived very late as I just had my second 'fast food' - it was perhaps 2 or 3 am. I was prepared for the loud techno but not loud chinese techno. It got a little annoying after a while. When I sat at the bar it all went downhill quickly. Drunk bartender asked for RMB 48 for a whiskey and coke. It doesnt even cost that at some of the established discos in Beijing! Drunk bartender, thinking I'm from Hong Kong, tells me in cantonese she'll drink with me and tells me to order another for her. I was too polite to decline. She wants to play dice, but I can't even hear her shout my drink order in my ear let alone make conversation! She said she'll drink with me again but I quickly down my drink and make a beeline for the door. I circled the dance floor a few times but there was no noticeable talent. I was already uninspired by the interaction with drunk bartender so I cut my losses and called it a night.

Summary:

Someone (I think JK) mentioned that if you want variety of activities and availability of girls go to ZH and if all you want is to monger go to CP - based on this single visit to ZH I totally understand what he means. As a single traveller who speaks mandarin I offer the following comments to summarize:

FLs in discos (tian di ren jian) - If you arrive early enough there are probably 'FL's' on the disco's silent payroll who are interested in your expenditure at the establishment primarily, before they are interested in your wallet for activities outside the establishment.

BBS - did not partake, though I saw a few in the back alleys from LHL.

KTV - did not partake, though I suspect that this is where the real talent is to be found. A little difficult if you're travelling alone unless you take a small room and are prepared for the minimum expenditure or if they have a main hall.

LHL - cabana girls are not worth the cruising. they are probably hardened by what they observe around them day in day out. Those plying LHL itself - there are some lookers but service is zilch. Please let me know if you're a visitor and have found any who offer GFE here. The girls all have an 'aunt' and report accordingly before and after your session. I suspect they are all in debt to them for their passage to ZH and so they go for quantity not quality.

RTF - no, unless I return with a partner just to visit the spas and hot springs for a 'romantic' interlude or weekend!!

To follow: raverboy in China Part II - Beijing

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Superforce99
12-26-06, 04:58
Great report from Raverboy about the potential ups and downs of Zhuhai. I'll add some personal comments:


Am now in Beijing to maintain personal contacts and to establish new ones. Having read this thread (and the Dongguan one) from end to end and being intrigued by the opportunities that ZH and CP presented, I was initially hard-pressed to make a decision as to which to visit for the first time. Thanks to various inputs specifically from JK and OAH, etc. I decided on ZH and must say that in retrospect I was initially overwhelmed but overall slightly disappointed....


"Overwhelmed but overall slightly disappointed" is a great description of the average Zhuhai experience. There is a LOT of promise and potential in everything from the LHL gals, to the open-air bar gals, to bar freebies, to general freebies, but I've found that Zhuhai being a semi-resort town makes this all a slightly more difficult-to-capture-animal than in other cities. It takes some time and patience, both of which traveling mongers are usually short of.



I have a whole stack of phone numbers given to me by LHL girls, and I did not ask for a single one. They'll come to you and you'd have a real problem should you not be approached! Sitting at the green umbrella cabanas does not give you any immunity from them at all. Even a quick glance or a split second eye contact gives them reason to approach you. The girls were mostly 5 or 6s with a few 7 or 8s. At RMB 10 / bottle of tsingtao I was content to while away the early evenings here while scouting talent.


This is probably the most unique and enjoyable part of Zhuhai and you seemed to have taken full enjoyment of it...



Although a little overwhelming at first I quickly settled in. Took two girls (one each night) back for ST but found the service to be too quick - too business-like, unenthusiastic and uninspiring. zero GFE. I spoke with a fellow customer at the cabana and he called it kuai can ( 快餐 ) - fast food, and it was exactly that. Both girls tried for the upsell (to ON) within the first 10 mins of service. Declined both. I will dispense with the names and contact numbers as they are just not worthwhile.


I'm not sure if I was clear in my reports or PMs, but LHL gals are generally NOT known for GFEs and if you are looking for one there, you're playing a gambling game with really low odds. In very general terms (and this is getting to be less and less true actually), an average LHL gal looks better/younger than an average SW in any other part of China and that is their main draw, period. One thing you almost HAVE to do is string them along with a "I will take you all night...if your ST service is good. So, c'mon girl, show me your skills..." And this applies to both ST and LT. It doesn't work every time, but I guarantee that your ratio of good/bad experiences with LHL gals will go up instantly with this method. And if you're a foreigner, be sure to state you know the ST price is 200 RMB and that you want BBBJ/pics/anal/fisting or whatever BEFORE you get to the hotel room. It'll save you lots of grief later.

I've done at least 30-40 LHL gals by now and I'd say about 50% were OK or forgetable were 50% were good, 25% of that were great and worth repeating, and 5% of these became GFE (and this is only after repeated ST/LTs). I've had some one-off GFE on LHL, but it's like winning the lottery more than an equation of "Pay $ = GFE", so don't go into it expecting this equation. If you are, then CP is a better destination where this equation tends to be true much more often than in ZH.



Decided to check out the disco on my last night in the hopes of scoring a FL. Arrived very late as I just had my second 'fast food' - it was perhaps 2 or 3 am....I was already uninspired by the interaction with drunk bartender so I cut my losses and called it a night.


I would say Tian Di Ren Ja is a weird place...most of the LHL gals go there before/after work to drink and relax and also pick up additional customers, but usually just to drink and relax (ie. take ecstacy and shake their ass all night). It's so fucking crowded in there (sardine-style shoulder-to-shoulder on the dancefloor) that if you pick up a FL, it'd be an accomplishment, not to mention a freebie. The Yesterday Disco (more so) and the Shuiwan Bar street (less so) is much, much less crowded and a better place to pick up both FLs and freebies. And I know it's tough when you're alone in a bar, but I never place dice with the waitresses and especially don't buy drinks for them (to me, it's similar to me buying McDonalds chicken McNuggets and feeding them to the McCashier), unless I know them and/or have fucked them before and know it's a slow night businesswise for them.



LHL - cabana girls are not worth the cruising. they are probably hardened by what they observe around them day in day out. Those plying LHL itself - there are some lookers but service is zilch. Please let me know if you're a visitor and have found any who offer GFE here. The girls all have an 'aunt' and report accordingly before and after your session. I suspect they are all in debt to them for their passage to ZH and so they go for quantity not quality.


The cabana gals (I've referred to these places as green umbrella cafes and open air bars in the past) ARE doable, but it will take more time and money investment. A lot of them have Taiwan/Singapore/Malay/HK guys who are chasing them or who are already considered boyfriends but don't let that stop you. My recommendation is to flirt with them, play dice with them, and joke around with them while showing you are NOT interested in the girls on the LHL. Then take them out to dinner before/after their shift and come around to their cabana at different times to drink/dice/flirt/show you are NOT doing other gals and are interested in them. Add little gifts and keep pushing to go out with her to see some local sites. Eventually, you can bring her back to your room and fuck. I'd say it takes about a week or so but I get annoyed by even thinking about this arduous process...ha ha, but it works and I know other guys who have done it. If this process doesn't sound like it's for you, then these girls are probably not for you, either. I've also heard a very very select few do a straight "$=pussy" deal, like a more expensive LHL gal.

And for the almighty AG, my offer still stands to you, playboy! One night stand with one of these gals and you win what I told you last time, ha ha...

As for GFE from the LHL gals, one of the things I try to do to help guys who visit ZH is to give them recommendations of gals I've done before. I only keep in contact with ones worth repeating and these gals also recommend other gals with good service, who I then fuck, screen, and also recommend to visiting mongers, so it's kind of a win-win-win situation. I also know that lots of guys like to have the dreamy illusion in their mind that "I found this gal all by myself and I will be the first foreigner/dude to fuck her today/in her life/etc." but in my own experience, it's more satisfying to have a gal give good service who was recommended rather than roll the dice with an unknown. Actually, it's best to combine experiences and the prices are cheap enough in ZH where you can mix in unknown LHL gals, recommended LHL gals, sauna gals, disco FLs, and cabana gals without really busting a budget.


J

OldAsiaHand
12-26-06, 05:44
Raverboy,

I should say, "I told you so", but that will do you no good in hindsight. Your experience is pretty typical for ZH. I am no expert having only done a couple of LHL girls myself and never repeated with one, but all were in a hurry and had an attitude. I did not try the LT carrot on them. I have used this strategy in other places with pretty good success. I may try it on LHL the next time. Johnny is a regular in that area and all the girls know him as a potential repeater. Obviously, he will get better service than we do as occasional visitors.

I find the GFE ratio to be much higher in CP. Having said that, I am almost as much of a regular in the Yalan Hotel area shops as Johnny is on LHL. Repeat business, whether it is with a mama or a specific girl always results in better service over time.

Just my POV.

OAH

One Wing Low
12-26-06, 10:24
I was staying for a week in SZ and CP. Did a lot of eating and drinking. Everything was OK until I arrived at Zhuhai and had a cup of mixed coffee/tea with cream that Billy Lee bought me at one of the cabana bars. I quickly developed a bad case of diahrrea. Needless to say it took supernatural effort to enjoy sex with the ZH honeys.

The little girl Bin Bin was very pretty with an almost perfect lean body. I would prefer her to fill out with a little more fat. Her body was lean but her boobs were round and stood erect, defying the laws of gravity! She was very cute, very sweet, very helpful, very caring. She took the time helping me with the erection and the sex. she did not wear any make up or fragrance, so her hair smelled sweaty. She never rushed me. She acted surprised that I gave her more than 200Y. I recognized that but it was too late by then. She was kidding around with me a bit before she left. Very cute and fresh girl. Would do her again and again. If I had understood Chinese, the experience would have been even a lot better.

Yan was the girl Johnny recommended, a very pretty, sweet and pleasant girl. She has put on just a little bit of excess fat on her frame. Her boobs were slithtly droopy. Otherwise she was very nice, pleasant, communicative and helpful. I really enjoyed her company and her sexuality.

The main difference with Chinese girls is that they express their sexual pleasures naturally and abundantly, without any hint of faking. They really turn me on. Sex with these girls are a lot more satisfying than any race that I know.

Despite the fact that I cannot speak or understand Chinese, and can only give them 'Xie Xie, Wo Ai Ni ...' once in a while, both girls were very communicative throughout the encounters. They seem to have a natural inclination to care about other people, at least their fucking and paying johns any way, in similar manners as the girls in Argentina. I have to give them one of the best grade for being nice, sweet and congenial.

By the way, the SW were strolling in 3 and 4, giving me the eyes as they walked by. There were droves ofter droves of them. My quick estimate put the figure at about 100, not counting the regular people. I have not visited Yalan Hotel in CP. There is no other place in the world other than ZhuHai where you have such a large supply of fresh young girls that you can get so quickly and cheaply.

I had a great time with the bro's in ZhuHai. Would love to meet again soon.

Zamziv
12-26-06, 11:13
One Wing Low:

Hi there,

I will appreciate if you will explain me the place you found these gals.

Thanks

Raverboy
12-26-06, 16:02
...This is probably the most unique and enjoyable part of Zhuhai and you seemed to have taken full enjoyment of it...Yes, and I'd like to add a note here that it helps if you stick to one cabana. Once the staff know you you become a quick 'regular' although a temporary one. 3 afternoons there and the 3 staff were calling me by name and willing to run 'errands' for me (source for me a bottle of whiskey from their contacts, get me skewered snacks from across the street, fend off unwanted attention, etc.)


...I'm not sure if I was clear in my reports or PMs, but LHL gals are generally NOT known for GFEs and if you are looking for one there, you're playing a gambling game with really low odds. In very general terms (and this is getting to be less and less true actually), an average LHL gal looks better/younger than an average SW in any other part of China and that is their main draw, period. One thing you almost HAVE to do is string them along with a "I will take you all night...if your ST service is good. So, c'mon girl, show me your skills..." And this applies to both ST and LT. It doesn't work every time, but I guarantee that your ratio of good/bad experiences with LHL gals will go up instantly with this method...

I read your reports at face value and made a mental note that you live there and so that ups your odds compared to those 'passing through' such as myself. I had to be in Beijing and logistically the stopover was a no-brainer. I just had to decide on where... Admittedly if ISG did not exist I wouldn't have bothered. I guess I should've 'strung them along' but I guess I was too lazy. Go figure.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]...I should say, "I told you so", but that will do you no good in hindsight. Your experience is pretty typical for ZH. I am no expert having only done a couple of LHL girls myself and never repeated with one, but all were in a hurry and had an attitude. I did not try the LT carrot on them. I have used this strategy in other places with pretty good success. I may try it on LHL the next time. Johnny is a regular in that area and all the girls know him as a potential repeater. Obviously, he will get better service than we do as occasional visitors. True, and I did have that in mind. See above. I will admit though that I was under the impression (the wrong one in retrospect) that my ethnicity (overseas chinese) and fluency in mandarin would up my odds in scoring a GFE/FL nevertheless I made sure my expectations werent set *too* high. I was prepared to sweet talk and butter them up but I guess my forgettable encounters and lack of time were not in my favour.

Nevertheless, thank you OAH and JK for your input. I will do CP next when my travel plans permit.

Bill Lee
12-26-06, 18:27
Totally agree with you on that CP is so much better than ZH.

I think one major reason is that the girls in CP are accountable to their mamasans whereas it seems that all the LHL ZH workers are freelancers or their mama/papasan (more like pimps) just don't give a shit about good service or returning customers.

There's also a lesser chance of getting rip off by the CP girls. Most mongers here will testify that the CP mamasans are pretty hard on their girls that fuck up.

Being in a CP lineup recently, the mamasan did not take my 100RMB and told me that if I didn't like the girl's service at the end of the night, I didn't have to pay the girl or her (mamasan). I don't think I'll hear that from the ZH LHL workers and have them mean it.

Bill



Raverboy,

I should say, "I told you so", but that will do you no good in hindsight. Your experience is pretty typical for ZH. I am no expert having only done a couple of LHL girls myself and never repeated with one, but all were in a hurry and had an attitude. I did not try the LT carrot on them. I have used this strategy in other places with pretty good success. I may try it on LHL the next time. Johnny is a regular in that area and all the girls know him as a potential repeater. Obviously, he will get better service than we do as occasional visitors.

I find the GFE ratio to be much higher in CP. Having said that, I am almost as much of a regular in the Yalan Hotel area shops as Johnny is on LHL. Repeat business, whether it is with a mama or a specific girl always results in better service over time.

Just my POV.

OAH

Traveler1234
12-26-06, 18:52
Totally agree with you on that CP is so much better than ZH.
Bill

Where are you - still mongering in Asia? What the hell - your dick must be ready to fall off by now :)

Happy Holidays.

T1234

Bill Lee
12-26-06, 19:08
Cum to southern China. Guaranteed Happy Ending all night long.

Bill



Where are you - still mongering in Asia? What the hell - your dick must be ready to fall off by now :)

Happy Holidays.

T1234

Jowan
12-27-06, 12:48
Will be in ZhuHai and Macau from Jan.1 to Jan.5 (Mon - Fri), PM me if anyone wants to hang out. Happy New Year and Happy Endings to all!

Seeker A
01-02-07, 07:50
Wanted to post these pics from my prev trip to ZH but did not manage so till now. The girl in yellow is a sweet young SW from LHL while the white one was from the race course at Lisboa, Macao.

Happy mongering. ZH is still the best w many options.

Old Mean Dog
01-02-07, 08:29
Went to Zhuhai with a buddy and our gf's for 2 days over the New Year. First night stayed at the Swan Hotel on New Years Eve, this is a 4 star hotel, but is rather far away from the main areas of town. We booked it on elong.com for 298 rmb, good price, but you could tell it was NOT girl friendly plus had a rather long "walk of shame/fame".

Second night stayed at the South Pacific Hotel across the street from the Macau border crossing, 3 star hotel and rack rate was 268. This was a nice hotel for 3 star standards, rooms were big and clean. This hotel is certainly girl friendly as we noticed several waiting on elevators at various times and they have a KTV on the 4th floor so they have the greeter lineup in the evening inside the hotel lobby.

As gf's walked behind us, we were approached by a mommy outside the hotel area, also approached by SW on Bar Street and over by the shopping street that has all the little outdoor bars on it. Did not see much that looked very interesting and overall, the quality of girls in general seemed not as pretty as Shenzhen, but then again we really were not on that type of trip.

Hope to be flying solo next trip over.

-SZE

Eazy Guy
01-03-07, 20:29
dear bros,

could anyone share with the most interested places for mongering in CP & ZH? currently I am in SH and going to travel to HK and MC 2 weeks later.

your inputs are much appreciated.

eg

Crazier
01-06-07, 17:06
JK.,

Please check this out.

I went but due to poor mandarin as well as inability to read mandarin, I came out without the right answers.

This station is opposite the gongbei bus station about 100 metres away to the front left.

(See picture)


The 5th line on this signboard surely says Zhang Mu Tou and I also see Chang Ping there.

Can you find out:

1) Does the bus go to Chang Ping first before ZMT or the other way round.

2) How frequent and when does it begin and end.

Thanks.

Definitely an alternative to XiangZhou as well as the once a day CTS bus from the Underground Shopping Centre bus station (B1).

C.

Raverboy
01-06-07, 17:49
Allow me to help on the 'right answers'.

1) The bus stop in the first two pics attached in your post below is the correct bus stop for buses to Zhangmutou, Chang Ping, Guangzhou Airport and other destinations in southern Guang Dong. Interestingly the other destinations include Shantou, Taishan, Foshan, Shunde and Shenzhen. See my post (#884) below under 'Logistics'. This is the same bus station I refer to.

2) The fifth line first column (in red) says 'Zhangmutou' (you're correct). The 2nd column indicates the route which is 'Da Lang' followed by 'Chang Ping'. Presumably the bus goes to Zhangmutou last. The 3rd column indicates operating hours which is 0745 - 1935 hrs - 1 per 60 mins approx. I can't make out the header for the 4th column but it could be distance in kilometres. The 5th column indicates the type of bus but they look to be mostly 'Premium Direct Big Bus'! The next column of figures is the fare.

Hope this helps!


JK.,

Please check this out.

I went but due to poor mandarin as well as inability to read mandarin, I came out without the right answers.

This station is opposite the gongbei bus station about 100 metres away to the front left.

(See picture)


The 5th line on this signboard surely says Zhang Mu Tou and I also see Chang Ping there.

Can you find out:

1) Does the bus go to Chang Ping first before ZMT or the other way round.

2) How frequent and when does it begin and end.

Thanks.

Definitely an alternative to XiangZhou as well as the once a day CTS bus from the Underground Shopping Centre bus station (B1).

C.

Laowai123
01-06-07, 19:12
The 5th line on this signboard surely says Zhang Mu Tou and I also see Chang Ping there.

Can you find out:

1) Does the bus go to Chang Ping first before ZMT or the other way round.

2) How frequent and when does it begin and end.

Crazier,

I am not JK, but I take the liberty to answer what I know for sure and hope to know/think for right:

ad 1)
Geographically this cities are located from west to east in order DaLang, CP, ZMT. ZMT will be the end station with DL and CP as stations before. I also assume that this bus route is via HuMen, so DL will be before CP, and CP before ZMT on the route.

ad 2)
I am not sure, as my reading capabilities are not good either, but I will give it a try in the way that I would think it when I would stand in front of this table:

- first/last bus: 7:45(am)/19:35
- every 60 minutes
- the black digits I assume are the distances
- the last red digits I am not sure if it's the duration or the fare

Please correct me in case I am wrong.

Hth at least a bit.

LW

Crazier
01-07-07, 05:00
RB., LW.,

Thanks for the response.

Right now, I am quite happy with the CTS bus which takes a little over two hours between ZH and CP and its a great affordable service. Best thing is that the bus is often half empty making the journey most pleasant. Only gripe is the timings and schedule which is one a day each way.

I was almost desperate enough to check out this alternative but did not want to go round Dongguan before getting to CP.

If anyone has used this service between Zhuhai & CP., I'd be happy to hear of the time taken etc.

Based on your explanations, it seems this bus station provides a good alternative as opposed to going to Xiangzhou where the bus still goes to Dongguan Town and has an overall journey time of nearly 3 hours.

A problem with the public buses is that if you unlucky to journey and seat next to a "car-sick" local, he/she may start vomitting during the journey and that is awful. Has happened to me twice on the Xianzhou- CP bus! SHITS !

Thanks again folks.

Loso69
01-09-07, 00:10
Prelude

I didn’t go to sleep on my final night in Macau. I partied until the sun came up, made my way to Zhuhai and went to sleep, dreaming of the plethora of Chinese pussy that would be awaiting me by the green umbrellas.

By the time I woke up, it was 5PM already. I freshened up, had a quick bite to eat and went on the prowl... how I love the thrill of novelty, the excitement of a whole new P4P scene waiting to be discovered.

Lily

Lily was darn cute. I smiled at her a few times as she walked past me, but she seemed to be ignoring this frightening-looking laowai. But I finally caught her attention....

If you don’t speak Chinese (Mandarin), you better brush up on your... sign language. :) She stuck up 3 fingers. I responded with 2 fingers. Lily grabbed my arm and we were off to my hotel...

Lily revealed her tiny little body, escorted me to the shower and thoroughly washed me, as all Chinese girls do. I sucked on her tiny little titties and then let my tongue wander south... Lily stopped me. But she started getting wet as I was softly rubbing her clit, after which she loved my tongue caressing her nether region.

I asked Lily to give me a blowjob, but she wouldn’t. I put a condom on... and then she started sucking my dick. After a few minutes, she gently lowered herself onto my dick and slowly allowed it to slide in. She soon picked up a rhythm and turned out to be a decent jockey. I didn’t appreciate her dismounting me to answer her bloody phone, though.

Lily provided the kind of service I’d grown accustomed to from the China Dolls in Macau. No Kissing. Covered BJ. Pretty mechanical. I didn’t know it at the time, but for Zhuhai standards, Lily’s service was decidedly sub-par.

Liana

By the time I went back out, it was late on a busy Friday night and there didn’t seem to be a whole lot of talent about. Liana was no stunner, but cute enough. What’s more, she seemed really enthusiastic about the prospect of fucking a laowai. She immediately agreed to 200 RMB and was all smiles as we walked towards my hotel.

As soon as we were alone, Liana wrapped her arms around me and started French kissing me. A first! I put on some music and we started dancing together. After splashing around in the shower and making Liana even hornier than she already was by sucking on her clit, she started giving me a great BBBJ. Another first! But as Liana was giving me head, her mamasan came knocking on my door... time was up!

I told the b*tch to get lost and Liana got back to sucking my lollipop. Her mamasan may have been waiting, but Liana was in no hurry whatsoever. She was passionate as can be and a monster fuck.

Since I’d finally met a China Doll that provided great service, I wanted Liana to spend the night with me. I could tell she wanted to stay, but her mamasan wouldn’t let her. She wouldn’t even quote me a price. Liana is a wonderful girl, but her mamasan is a total b*tch!

Epilogue

On my first day in Zhuhai, I had a great looking girl and a girl that provided great service. If I could find some girls who combined Lily’s looks with Liana’s service, I could be happy in this town. There’s always tomorrow...

Loso

TheGun
01-09-07, 00:31
Loso,

You never fail to amaze me with your reports. I am truly envious.

If I could only get out of this country- USA for a little fun.

I hope to be in China sometime in the next 3 months if all works out, if not, I will be hating life.

Keep up the good reports, appreciate it.

Tile Man4
01-09-07, 02:56
Loso69,

I had to laugh at your cell phone problem while having sex with Lily. Western men need to learn , tell any Chinese woman that you are with , SHUT the cell phone OFF when you are with them. She may ask for another 50 RMB for this , but its worth it. These Chinese , mostly WG are only conducting business right under your nose , because most of us don't understand Chinese.

To be honest with you , I am not laughing , this hit a nerve with me. I met a Chinese woman 2 years ago , I have been to China 4 times. We are talking about marriage. Soooooo , my fourth trip , I brought my little digital recorder.

Every time she got a call , I put my little DR on. Shit , this woman is an ex WG from 12 years ago. She still has some good old customers that she chases. I don't get the BJ's from her that she must give her old customers. I get very little good sex from her , BUT , I was looking for a wife and not a *****. Shit , I am so stupid.

This blog is for all you guys that do want to marry a Chinese woman. "BE CAREFUL" You guys that go to hina only to play , "BE SMART" and have fun.

Thanks for reading my blog - From: the asshole of the year

Tilegpc4

Eazy Guy
01-09-07, 18:14
dear bros,

next week I will be going to starcruise for 2 days to earn some pocket money for mongering then reach ZH on 18-01-07 (thursday). SH-HK-MC-ZH so anyone is arround? lets' party in ZH!!!

cheers~

eg

Loso69
01-10-07, 23:54
Tilegpc4,

Great story!

Lily answered her phone as we were fucking. Luckily, Liana didn't have a phone yet... but her mamasan came knocking on my door. :)

Loso

Loso69
01-11-07, 00:01
Xiao Ping

Xiao Ping was another laowai-lover. We were French kissing from the start and she went totally wild as she was rubbing her pussy against my mouth. She gives the most wonderful BBBJs and loved to ride my dick with our tongues intertwined. Xiao Ping left a huge wet spot on my bed. This sex kitten comes highly recommended!

Xiao Deng

Xiao Deng was yet another China Doll who adored having her pussy eaten. Guess Chinese guys aren’t into DATY. After giving me a BBBJ for about a minute... she rushed to the bathroom... and threw up. Guess the vanilla lollipop didn’t agree with her.

She wasn’t averse to riding my dick, though, as she squatted on my boner and pumped it really hard. And she was pressing her body hard against mine as I was drilling her. Another passion-filled China Doll!

Xiao Lu

As soon as I walked out again, I met Xiao Lu, who spoke a little English. A rarity in China! Unfortunately, she wasn’t the best service provider. She gave me an OK BBBJ and was a decent fuck. But the passion was lacking, and she wouldn’t let me kiss her lips... either pair.

3 Little Piggies

Xiao Ping, Xiao Deng & Xiao Lu – 3 little piggies in one day. Actually, I don’t have a clue what their names mean, but Xiao means little & lots of Chinese girls are called Xiao something.

All 3 girls were wearing boots. I called them hooker boots!

Finally, Southern China does not have a year-round tropical climate. Dressed warm, yet sexy, I thought the Zhuhai streetwalkers looked great.

Loso

Pyjama
01-11-07, 00:21
Great pics, thanks for sharing! What camera did you use for these?

Take care
Pyjama

Azn Playa
01-11-07, 13:10
Hahahahaha!!!

Your writing style to go with those pics are fun to read (either that or I'm in a good mood tonight).

Yeah I had 'Xiao Ping' approach me quite aggressively a couple of times before on LHL (which doesnt happen that often) and this had me wondering why...
but from your account, a Laowai lover indeed! Might try her out one day (I think her number is buried in a shoebox stuffed with the little pieces of paper they use).

Im not overly keen to DFK these girls but sometimes you just get absorbed in the moment by a girl's wanton behaviour.

And you are right about those boots - they are frigging everywhere, especially on LHL. Now when I see any girl in China wearing them, I think the girl resembles a SW (although its probably the other way around, hehe!).

Keep posting the great pics.

Loso69
01-11-07, 20:41
azn playa,

i consider dfk to be the most essential ingredient of the gfe. in places where white customers are the norm (thailand, philippines...), dfk is standard. since most chinese customers don’t seem to want dfk, it’s not standard practice in china as yet. but that should get better as more laowai start visiting.

pyjama,

canon eos 20d digital slr camera. canon speedlite 580 ex flash. ef-s 17-85 is usm lens.

loso

Loso69
01-11-07, 23:47
Ya Mei

On my 3rd night in Zhuhai, I finally got a chance to meet Johnnykon666, who’d been out of town for a few days. There was a police crackdown that evening, and there were no girls to be found along LHL. But they magically reappeared, just before Johnnykon arrived.

Johnnykon tried to introduce me to Ya Mei, who had the body of a porn star. He wasn’t to know I’d already fucked her earlier that day... :)

Ya Mei had a wonderful pair of tits, but didn’t like my sucking on them. She did love having her pussy eaten, though, and got wet as can be. I had a magnificent view as she was squatting and dancing on my dick, and when she finally succumbed to DFK, my balls exploded.

Asha

After a drink in one of the green umbrella bars, visiting a couple of massage parlors and a nearby BBS, Johnnykon and I took a ride in his favorite mamasan’s cyclo. She made some phone calls and arranged a small line-up. I picked Asha...

Like Ya Mei, she had an impressive pair of tits. Like Ya Mei, she loved my tongue caressing her clit. Like Ya Mei, she reluctantly agreed to DFK.

But Asha spent a lot more time with my dick in her mouth. :) And, contrary to what you may think when you view her picture, she was a real sweetie.

Epilogue

I’d also met a girl I liked at a BBS. She was reluctant to go with a laowai, but Johnnykon convinced her I was a nice guy. She was supposed to pay me a visit after my ST with Asha, but Johnnykon was already asleep...

Loso

Csun213
01-12-07, 07:32
Hi Loso, just want to say aside from posting very pretty girls, your picture quality is some of the best I have ever seen. Keep up the good work. 3 more months before I will be in China to have fun again, meanwhile just have to read the posts and count the days.

Old Mean Dog
01-12-07, 09:38
Hi Loso, just want to say aside from posting very pretty girls, your picture quality is some of the best I have ever seen. Keep up the good work. 3 more months before I will be in China to have fun again, meanwhile just have to read the posts and count the days.

I agree 100%, great pics and reports....do I smell a website coming? I met Loso in Shenzhen when he was "on tour" here and he's a nice guy to boot! I don't know how you have so much stamina and energy to do this much shagging, but I will certainly buy a case of whatever it is your taking.

Azn Playa
01-12-07, 09:52
Azn Playa,

I consider DFK to be THE most essential ingredient of the GFE. In places where white customers are the norm (Thailand, Philippines...), DFK is standard. Since most Chinese customers don’t seem to want DFK, it’s not standard practice in China as yet. But that should get better as more laowai start visiting.

Loso

I used to kiss the girls a lot but am becoming more selective these days depending on where I get the girl from and how experienced she seems. For me its better to miss that then risk an infection.

GFE is less of a need for me and most girls I take are ST so they are only around for about an hour, but I can see you like it. I like to play around with the girls but not in an effectionate way.

Loso69
01-12-07, 19:44
Csun123,

You may not remember, but we met in Shenzhen. Santa and I, together with you and two young Chinese American mongers went to Hu Bei Xin Cun.... too early!

SZExpat,

Thanks for recommending the streetwalkers close to the Panglin Hotel over lunch. I got a great girl from there later that night. You’ll eventually see her picture,... but she’s number 42 in line. :)

Loso

Loso69
01-12-07, 23:33
Xiao Ni

Xiao Ni was tiny in every way... except for her big heart. I loved her ever smiling face. I loved the funny way she danced. Xiao Ni was a total sweetie who showed me heaven.

My room must have been her idea of paradise as well, as she was in no hurry to leave and gave me a relaxing massage afterwards. When I handed her a piece of paper, she drew a watch and indicated she wanted to stay with me around the clock... until 6PM the next day.

I’d never had a Chinese girl spend the night with me in China. I’m sure we would have had an amazing time together. But it was only afternoon and Johnnykon was going to continue the tour of the saunas later that night...

I thought about calling Xiao Ni as I went to sleep alone. But it was 3AM and I didn’t want to wake her up. I had no idea what to say to her anyway. The only Chinese I knew was “Laowai” and “Wo ai ni”. In retrospect, that may have been just what she wanted to hear.

BTW, Xiao Ni was the 999th girl to be added to my picture collection. Just one more and I’d reach the magic number!

Loso

Woxin
01-13-07, 02:53
Loso,

I admire your taste. She looks like someone I would be comfortable with spending the night as well with me.

By the way can you or anybody else in this forum pardon my ignorance and explain to me what DFK means.

Firebird
01-13-07, 11:51
Woxin - check out the "abbreviations" listing in the "top heading"


Loso,

I admire your taste. She looks like someone I would be comfortable with spending the night as well with me.

By the way can you or anybody else in this forum pardon my ignorance and explain to me what DFK means.

Loso69
01-13-07, 21:40
Her Bing

One of the saunas on Johnnykon’s tour was the Da Ming Yuan sauna. The captain only showed us 2 line-ups, but there were a few really pretty girls. I picked Her Bing (#015) and Johnnykon talked to her to make sure I would be allowed to take pictures.

The sauna girls in Zhuhai have quite a few tricks up their sleeve. This is the complete routine:

- I was asked to lie down on the massage table.
- Her Bing first washed the front, and then gave me a short body massage with her tits.
- After I’d turned over, she repeated the procedure on my back.
- Her Bing gave my back a cat bath, slurped as she deposited two lines of tea on my back and then proceeded to suck it all off.
- The same procedure (cat bath, slurping, sucking) was repeated on my ass cheeks and both my legs.
- The action moved to the bed, where I was asked to sit on all fours.
- Her Bing cleaned my asshole and then rubbed it with some kind of lubricant.
- Her Bing should have rimmed my ass at this stage, but skipped that.

Next came the famous Fire & Ice routine, where the girl sucks your dick with all kinds of liquids in her mouth: hot & cold water, hot & cold tea, Listerine...

Finally, Her Bing applied some K-Y to her pussy, squatted on my dick and popped up and down until I popped.

Johnnykon had explained to me that I could either pay the girl directly or pay everything together at reception. If you pay at reception, the girl will only receive the money at the end of the month. It’s a way of punishing the girl when you receive bad service.

This was my 1st sauna experience in China and I thought I received pretty good service, so I gave the girl 200 RMB (150 RMB + 50 RMB tip). Afterwards, I discovered that I didn’t get complete service – she left out the ass rimming, probably her least favorite part of the routine.

When I went to reception, I expected only to have to pay for the room (110 RMB), as I’d already paid the girl. But she considered the whole 200 RMB as a tip and didn’t fill in the form, so I was asked for the full amount. Johnnykon talked to them & the girl came down with the 200 RMB. As she tried to scam me, she lost her 50 RMB tip and won’t receive the 150 RMB she earned until the end of the month.

In fact, I totally forgot about my stats, so I only realized it after the facts. But after number 999 comes

1000! :D

The 1000th girl in my picture collection. A landmark!

Loso

Cebu Local
01-14-07, 01:16
Her Bing

One of the saunas on Johnnykon’s tour was the Da Ming Yuan sauna. The captain only showed us 2 line-ups, but there were a few really pretty girls. I picked Her Bing (#015) and Johnnykon talked to her to make sure I would be allowed to take pictures.

The sauna girls in Zhuhai have quite a few tricks up their sleeve. This is the complete routine:

- I was asked to lie down on the massage table.
- Her Bing first washed the front, and then gave me a short body massage with her tits.
- After I’d turned over, she repeated the procedure on my back.
- Her Bing gave my back a cat bath, slurped as she deposited two lines of tea on my back and then proceeded to suck it all off.
- The same procedure (cat bath, slurping, sucking) was repeated on my ass cheeks and both my legs.
- The action moved to the bed, where I was asked to sit on all fours.
- Her Bing cleaned my asshole and then rubbed it with some kind of lubricant.
- Her Bing should have rimmed my ass at this stage, but skipped that.

Next came the famous Fire & Ice routine, where the girl sucks your dick with all kinds of liquids in her mouth: hot & cold water, hot & cold tea, Listerine...

Finally, Her Bing applied some K-Y to her pussy, squatted on my dick and popped up and down until I popped.

Johnnykon had explained to me that I could either pay the girl directly or pay everything together at reception. If you pay at reception, the girl will only receive the money at the end of the month. It’s a way of punishing the girl when you receive bad service.

This was my 1st sauna experience in China and I thought I received pretty good service, so I gave the girl 200 RMB (150 RMB + 50 RMB tip). Afterwards, I discovered that I didn’t get complete service – she left out the ass rimming, probably her least favorite part of the routine.

When I went to reception, I expected only to have to pay for the room (110 RMB), as I’d already paid the girl. But she considered the whole 200 RMB as a tip and didn’t fill in the form, so I was asked for the full amount. Johnnykon talked to them & the girl came down with the 200 RMB. As she tried to scam me, she lost her 50 RMB tip and won’t receive the 150 RMB she earned until the end of the month.

In fact, I totally forgot about my stats, so I only realized it after the facts. But after number 999 comes

1000! :D

The 1000th girl in my picture collection. A landmark!

LosoLoso Congaratulations on reaching the 100th picture,You really have outstanding pictures.

TheGun
01-14-07, 01:24
Loso Congaratulations on reaching the 100th picture,You really have outstanding pictures.Loso is the man!

Congrats and someday I hope to get to China and meet you for a drink and some stories.

Loso69
01-14-07, 01:28
Aisha & Xiao Yi

During the first part of Johnnykon’s sauna tour, we visited the Jin Yu Hotel sauna. But I wasn’t carrying my camera and there were other places to be discovered, so I was just sightseeing.

Two days later, I went back on my own, planning to get pictures of the famous “Red Ropes”. Of course, I needed 2 girls for that – one girl to administer the red rope treatment & another girl to take pictures of the action.

The Captain was being difficult. For starters, he insisted there was a 70 RMB surcharge if you take 2 girls. That was simply ridiculous and I stubbornly refused to pay it. The stalemate ended when he finally agreed to give me a big room while paying for a small room, the difference in price being... exactly 70 RMB.

Next, I had to find 2 girls to my liking. The Captain would only show me 2 line-ups and there was only 1 girl that passed the looks threshold. When I quoted the numbers of pretty girls that I’d spotted on my first visit, they weren’t available. But I finally got a 3rd line-up and picked my 2 red rope girls.

Once we were in the room, I called Johnnykon and asked him to explain to the girls that I wanted them to take pictures of each other while they were performing the red rope treatment. That would earn them 100 RMB tip each. They agreed and Johnnykon asked me to get both girls to confirm our agreement by giving it the thumbs up and saying “OK”. They both did.

I snapped a few pictures of the girls first. The fact that both girls seemed camera-shy and hid their cleavage (one with her hair, one with her hands) definitely wasn’t a good sign. They’d be butt-naked when performing the red rope treatment... But Xiao Yi’s big smile as she was holding the red ropes gave me hope.

On to the shower. Aisha was designated as the girl who would shower me, but I wanted to feel both girls’ hands washing me at the same time. They never did.

Next was the cat bath. Again, I wanted both girls to give me a cat bath together, but they were hardly ever synchronized.

I did get both girls to lick up and down the shaft of my dick together, but they didn’t like that much. They both gave decent solo BBBJs, though.

On to the main event. I got my camera out to have the girls take pictures of each other while they were sucking my dick as they were hanging upside down from the red ropes. They refused... I got on the phone to Johnnykon again, but the girls told him... they’d changed their mind.

I was ready to grudge fuck the lying b*tches, but they wouldn’t let me fuck them either. They called the Captain, who told me that the house policy was that naked pictures were not allowed. When he requested I wait, I presumed I would be able to talk to someone with more authority or someone who spoke decent English. In the meantime, the girls still refused to be fucked.

As I noticed the girls giggling while pointing at the clock, I realized that the Captain was in cahoots with them and scamming me to waste time. I opened the door and called the Captain back, after which the girls finally agreed to fuck. But there was precious little time left and I was so agitated at this stage that I couldn’t get my dick up anymore.

The 2 scheming b*tches together with that bastard of a Captain scammed this laowai out of 568 RMB!

Loso

Loso69
01-14-07, 17:21
Getting There

I took a taxi from the Fortuna Hotel in Macau to the border (38 MOP). Without luggage, buses No 3, 5 & 9 will bring you to the Border Gate a lot cheaper.

After checking out of Macau, I walked to the huge Chinese immigration building. There were no less than 31 lanes, all of them manned. And I still had to queue up for some time...

The Chinese immigration officer checked my passport thoroughly. He even inspected it with a magnifying glass to make sure it wasn’t a fake.

When you walk out of the immigration building, take the escalator (if it’s working) or stairs down to the huge shopping arcade and follow the signs to the Lian Hua Street (Northeast) exit.

When you exit the shopping mall, cross the street and walk straight ahead to the promised land of Lian Hua Lu.

Hotel

Great Aim Hotel

Checking In

There are plenty of hotels on LHL. The first hotel I came across that had been recommended by other mongers was the Great Aim Hotel (Chinese name Hua Ce).

As I arrived on a Friday morning, the regular rooms were fully booked. They only had suites available on Friday and Saturday, but I could change to a regular room on Sunday.

I still hadn’t slept and didn’t feel like checking out other hotels, so I booked into a suite for 2 nights (580 RMB). The rate from Sunday to Thursday is 30 RMB cheaper.

I ended up staying for 5 nights, but never changed to a regular room. That would have required waking up in the morning, and I’m too lazy to wake up early when I’m on holiday.

Suite

My suite consisted of a living room and a bedroom. I had 2 fridges, 2 TVs and 2 bathrooms.

I had my own personal spa in the master bathroom! Apart from the regular shower head, the water could also come straight down from the ceiling. I could have my back massaged by water squirting from the side wall. Finally, I could sit down, turn on the steam (and the lights) and enjoy a sauna. The spa was good fun, but when I showed the additional features to the girls, it scared the shit out of them. :)

The wardrobe featured a large safe with a number lock and his & hers bathrobes.

Deposit

Chinese hotels require guests to pay their room charge in advance, as well as a deposit on top of that. Since I’d only checked in for 2 days, they bothered me with their “deposit” bullshit every time I walked past reception. I simply ignored them.

When they stopped me, I told them that I would pay one more time – when I checked out! They weren’t happy about it, but finally succumbed to doing things the laowai way.

Hotels on LHL

The attached map shows the location of a few hotels on LHL. There are plenty more.

Laundry

It took me a while to find a laundry shop (no English signs), but I finally found one right on LHL.

They charged:
- 7 RMB for pants & shirts
- 3 RMB for socks & underwear
- 2 RMB for handkerchiefs

They process every piece individually & when you go and pick up your laundry, they have to go through all the clothes in the shop to find yours. Their system is very inefficient and it took them a bloody long time to gather all my stuff.

Each piece of clothing is identified by a colored piece of paper, which you have to take off yourself. I had 29 pieces!

Shopping

There’s a huge shopping mall which you pass through when traveling from Macau. Foreigners will be quoted ridiculous prices. Bargain hard and try to pay about a third of the original asking price.

SIM Card

There are plenty of phone shops in town where you can buy a local SIM card. You don’t need your passport and there are no formalities.

China Mobile has good coverage all over Southern China.

The cheapest SIM cards cost 80 RMB. Lucky numbers (with 8s in them) cost more.

Haircut

I needed a haircut when I was in Zhuhai, which turned out to be a great experience.

- They shampoo your hair while you’re sitting in the barber chair.
- You also get a scalp, forehead and neck massage.
- You move to a different chair to rinse your hair.
- You move back to the barber chair to have a haircut.
- They rinse your hair again to get rid off the tiny hairs that cause itching.
- They massage your back.
- They blow-dry your hair.

All that for 15 RMB!

Every time I have a haircut, I feel itchy afterwards. Not in China! The Chinese do most things differently. Sometimes they do it better!

Foot Massage

After a horrible experience at the Jin Yu Hotel sauna, I met Johnnykon for dinner. Since I wasn’t in the mood to fuck, he recommended I have a foot massage.

At the start, it was rather painful. But after a few ouches, my masseuse took it easy on me, after which it was rather soothing.

Loso

Loso69
01-15-07, 01:09
disclaimer

this report was written by, and from the perspective of a middle-aged white guy who doesn’t speak a word of chinese. if you’re ethnic chinese, black..., you may have completely different experiences. my report is probably only relevant for fellow laowais.

timing

i was in zhuhai:

november 10 - november 14 (5 nights)

statistics

during my 5-day stay in zhuhai, i had:

st: 11
lt: 0
girls: 11

lian hua lu streetwalkers

general

fyi, lian hua lu means lotus rd. but since almost nobody in zhuhai speaks english, learning the english name is utterly useless.

the area between the min an hotel (where many singaporeans stay) and the chang an hotel is littered with streetwalkers.

the girls will aggressively approach unaccompanied chinese. if you’re a laowai, you’ll mainly be approached by the less attractive girls. but if you see a hottie molesting chinese punters, you know she’s on the game and you can approach her.

chinese only

according to johnnykon, about 30-40% of the lhl girls will only service chinese customers, and i would tend to agree with that.

unfortunately, quite a few of the lhl hotties would have nothing to do with this laowai. luckily, it’s not as if a laowai can’t get any of the beauties either.

an ji / angie, who johnnykon posted a picture of, was at the top of my to-do list. she truly is gorgeous and works lhl on weekends (friday & saturday) and goes lt on weekdays. unfortunately, she turned me down. :(

business cards

lhl girls will often hand you their “business card”. her name will only be written in chinese and unless you speak a common language, calling her may prove difficult. :confused:

anyway, a few examples of scanned “business cards” have been attached.

price

the standard st price is 200 rmb. some girls may initially ask for more if you’re a laowai, but will eventually agree to the usual fee.

the only time i agreed to pay 300 rmb was for a beauty called xiao che. she walked to my hotel at the speed of lightning, and started undressing immediately. when she refused having her picture taken, i invited her to leave. she had the nerve to ask for money for wasting her time. i simply started laughing and escorted her to the door.

some girls will expect a tip if you’re a laowai. the girls who provided great service got what they wanted; the others didn’t.

long time

according to my research, the lhl girls will go lt for 500-600 rmb. yet i spent each and every one of my 5 nights in zhuhai sleeping alone...

- the first day, liana’s mamasan wouldn’t let her spend the night with me.
- the second day, i had 2 great girls, but the 3rd one turned out to be a dud.
- the third day, i expected to fuck a 3rd girl, but couldn’t reach her.
- the fourth day, i couldn’t find any beauties after my sauna experience.
- the final day, i wasn’t in the mood after the ordeal at the jin yu hotel sauna.

in short, it simply didn’t work out. of course, xiao ni (my favorite girl in zhuhai) did offer to spend the night with me. but it was too early in the day and i had other plans...

service

french kissing

dfk: 5
no dfk: 3

some girls would not agree to dfk and others only agreed to it reluctantly. this can probably be explained by the fact that the chinese girls are not used to white guys and are oblivious to the fact that we have different needs and expectations than chinese customers.

blowjobs

bbbj: 7
cbj: 1
no bj: 0

fucking

good fuck: 6
sterile fuck: 2

overall

considering the fact that a laowai is a rare sight in zhuhai and that i couldn’t communicate with the girls at all, i would say the above statistics are pretty damn good.

mamasans

the lhl streetwalkers are not freelancers. most have mamasans, some of which are bitches. liana’s mamasan came knocking on my door when she considered my time was up and wouldn’t let liana spend the night.

some girls have male pimps, who can be total assholes. one girl was willing to go with me for 200 rmb, but her pimp wouldn’t let her go with a laowai for less than 500 rmb. naturally, i showed the piece of shit my little pinky and insulted the crap out of him. of course, the fucking idiot never understood a word i said.

raids

whenever a patrol car drives through lhl, you’ll see the girls run into the shopping malls and back alleys. usually, they come back out after just a few minutes.

an actual police raid may cause lhl to be devoid of streetwalkers for hours or even days. luckily, that only happened once during my 5-day stay in zhuhai.

green umbrellas

there are “beer bars”, sporting striped green and white roofs in the vicinity of the chang an hotel. there are a few more bars opposite the great aim hotel.

unlike in thailand, the waitresses in these bars are not hoes. they make commission off your drinks and love to share your drinks by playing a game called liar’s dice, which is designed to keep everyone drinking.

none of the girls were able to explain the game to me, but the rules are pretty simple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/liar%27s%5fdice

according to johnnykon, the waitresses are available “in a different way”. a lot of them have sponsors already, and bedding them will require time and effort. if you’re a laowai sex tourist who’s only in town for a few days, forget about chatting up the waitresses!

barbershops

barbershops (bbs) are basically brothels. there are a few in the alleys off lhl between the chang an hotel and the chang an good world hotel.

i was supposed to fuck a bbs cutie johnnykon introduced me to, but never got round to it.

saunas

chang an good world hotel sauna

location

the chang an good world hotel is right on lhl, a little past the green umbrellas.

the sauna is on the 3rd floor.

prices

for a standard room, the price is 388 rmb all-in.

red ropes

no!

experience

i visited this sauna with johnnykon and saw 4 line-ups, including a few pretty girls. but i was just sightseeing at the time, and never went back.

jin yu hotel sauna

location

across the street from the chang an good world hotel, also on lhl.

the sauna is on the 3rd floor.

prices

1 girl

regular room: 98 rmb (room) + 200 rmb (girl) = 298 rmb
deluxe room : 168 rmb (room) + 200 rmb (girl) = 368 rmb

2 girls

regular room: 98 rmb (room) + 2*200 rmb (girls) + 70 rmb (surcharge) = 568 rmb
deluxe room: 168 rmb (room) + 2*200 rmb (girls) + 70 rmb (surcharge) = 638 rmb

the jin yu hotel sauna levies a ridiculous 70 rmb surcharge if you want 2 girls. i was able to negotiate a deluxe room for the price of a regular room, thus avoiding the surcharge.

red ropes

yes!

experience

the first time i visited was with johnnykon. once again, i was just sightseeing.

when i went back the next day, there was some confusion over the price structure. when i called johnnykon to enquire about prices, he suggested we visit another sauna.

on my 3rd visit, i thought i’d finally get my red rope pictures. i got scammed by 2 lying bitches and an asshole of a captain!

xiang jing hotel sauna

location

this hotel is not walking distance from lhl. a business card to show to the taxi or cyclo driver has been attached.

the sauna is on the 7th floor.

red ropes

yes!

experience

the captain only showed johnnykon and me 2 line-ups, with no decent looking girls. when we asked to see more girls, none were supposedly available. johnnykon thought that was bs and we were off to the next place.

da ming yuan hotel sauna

location

this is another place that will require a taxi or cyclo. once again, a business card has been attached.

prices

regular room: 130 rmb (room) + 150 rmb (girl) = 280 rmb

i got a 20 rmb discount on johnnykon’s vip card.

the vip card only costs 30 rmb, and pays itself back after just 2 visits.

red ropes

no!

experience

once again, the captain only showed us 2 line-ups, but at least there were a few pretty ones. i picked her bing, who provided good service, except for skipping the rimming.

but her bing tried to scam me, by considering the whole 200 rmb i gave her as a tip. luckily, johnnykon was there to prevent her from succeeding.

general

according to johnnykon, the 1st line-up always consists of girls who seldom get picked. you generally need to see 3-4 line-ups before you get an eyeful of some quality girls.

a laowai visiting a sauna will never get to see any beauties. the captains resent laowais and the beauties are reserved for the (regular) chinese customers.

both times i visited a sauna, they tried to scam me. the first time johnnykon was there to prevent it. the second time, i was alone and they succeeded.

johnnykon

johnnykon was kind enough to show me around his home town of zhuhai. he was an extremely generous host & great company. thanks a million for taking the time to show a newbie to china the ropes.

thanks for introducing me to some culinary delights. thanks for saving me from being scammed at the da ming yuan hotel sauna. never mind that my final night's experience at the jin yu hotel sauna turned out to be a horrible ordeal.

i hope our paths will cross again some day. you're a true gentleman.

final words

if you’re a laowai, i would recommend you avoid the sauna scene in zhuhai, especially if you don’t speak the language and are visiting solo. you will only be presented the rejects and there’s a very real possibility you may get scammed. since you’re on their turf and can’t communicate with anyone, there will be precious little you can do about it.

the lhl streetwalkers are a totally different story. there are some hotties out there and the girls that will go with laowais generally provide great service. the lhl girls are way more beautiful than the sauna girls and you can fuck them in the comfort of your own room. they make zhuhai a destination worth visiting.

hooking up with johnnykon can greatly enrich the zhuhai experience. not only is he a wonderful host, he can also keep you out of trouble. and he won’t even let you pick up the tab for dinner... unless you’re very quick. ;)

loso

Superforce99
01-15-07, 03:37
After a lot of little things added up to a prolonged absence, I have finally found time to post again….

I just wanted to add some comments regarding Loso's great, detailed reports. I think/hope that Loso had a great time visiting Zhuhai and other parts of China, but there were some things I wanted to add which could make his (and other mongers’) next trip to Zhuhai smoother…

While I know that women and/or working women are similar the world over, there are limits to how similar they are. This becomes doubly true if you don't understand Chinese at all or, sometimes worse, when you understand just enough of the language to assume the wrong idea completely. For example, Loso mentioned that "Her Bing" from the DMY sauna tried to scam him, which may or may not have been true, but since I usually believe in the benevolence of people, I wanted to reserve judgment until I understood the situation better. In my subsequent visits to DMY, I chatted with this cutie whenever I saw her in the lineups (she is #15) and she told me that she assumed the money Loso gave her was a tip since many foreigners tip (many times wildly-over-generous), unlike most Chinese, then you have a pretty confusing situation with the potential to get very frustrated. This would suck because assuming (correctly or incorrectly) that someone tried to scam you probably puts a negative pall over the next few hours, if not days, in a mongering trip/destination. This might even snowball by causing you to develop a negative/confrontational attitude for the next gal/trip/ect. leading to a cycle of fulfilling your own prophecies of getting bad service/scammed. And since I’m a monger, too, I hate to see other mongers have a bad time.

Then the last (and most vital) details are if a particular monger has 1) patience and 2) realistic expectations. Without these last two things, the situation almost always goes downhill, quickly. By "patience" I mean talking slowly and simply (in Chinese or English), and trying to communicate SIMPLE, straightforward information (name, prices, length of ST/LT, telephone numbers, etc.). The gals want your money and you want their pussy, so take a couple extra moments to make sure about details. And don’t waste time trying to communicate shit like “You are the most beautiful hooker I’ve fucked in the last 24 hours so let’s go drinking and dancing and then I can give you massage and then I will go buy you a cute fake-Gucci purse then we can eat a nice lunch and then after that we can fuck for free. I love you.” And don’t assume that her reply in Chinese translates to, “OK, handsome man!” either.

By "realistic expectations" I mean that many mongers need to accept the fact that they are in China and people speak Chinese. The vast majority of the China sex industry doesn't need foreign cock or foreign money so that is why people in the industry don't need to learn English. If you think they need to learn English, then go ahead and take the time to teach the girl/pimp/captain/KTV workers, and you might even have a good time. This basically goes back to the “patience” idea. Also, don’t expect better service simply because you are a foreigner. In fact, you should probably expect slightly worse service because many foreigners have a “me king…you servant” and/or “you do XXX = $?? I give you $$$$$!!” mentality which has made things more difficult for non-retarded foreigners. That’s why you have an extra incentive to treat the gals/pimps with respect and to act like you know your head from your ass.

This post is NOT a direct criticism against ANYONE in particular, I am just getting some frustrating thoughts off my mind because I have had too many experiences in the past few months where a foreigner doesn’t have a good time and/or was totally frustrated about one or more situations and blames everyone and everything around him, even though the root of the problem stemmed from what I wrote about above. Can you have a good mongering time in China without patience and realistic expectations? Ofcourse you CAN, but why stack the deck against yourself?

Anyway, I am not saying that every foreigner I've met are ignorant buffoons, far from it. I just think there are simple ways that most mongers can greatly smooth and/or improve their experiences in China, yet these ways are often ignored or forgotten for one reason or another.

I am happy to have had the chance to meet with Loso and dozens and dozens of other mongers these past few months. It’s always interesting to experience Zhuhai through the eyes of someone who doesn’t live here and/or doesn’t speak the language because I learn a lot of things from the experiences which help me to have better times with ZH gals as well as being able to give better, more accurate advice to other mongers.

Stay safe and enjoy...


Johnny


PS. Sorry, I guess I've had it with helplessly watching George Bush's heavy handed tactics these past years from afar here in China (though I voted against him both times), causing destruction and chaos all over the world and causing me to be somewhat ashamed being American, since I get lumped into all his shit behavior. And seeing heavy handed mongering tactics gives me similar irritable feelings...

Crazier
01-15-07, 06:59
Disclaimer

And he won’t even let you pick up the tab for dinner... unless you’re very quick. ;)

Loso

I know how much time it can take when you have visitors most of who you have never met before when you are the "host" of a location!

JK is a great host and most generous of his time beyond the call of duty helping out here on the forum with info and on the gound!

If you have dinner with him, you should be quicker than quick unless you are not sincere about paying for the tab! (and I am sure you were!) .

Any visitor who allows his good helpful host to pick up the tab on dinner deserves to be "fed to the sharks".

Loso69
01-15-07, 21:08
In Zhuhai, I got scammed on both my sauna visits.
In Changping, I visited a KTV once. At the end of the evening, both girls sitting with me refused to leave with me. It cost me a bundle of money and I ended up with nothing.
In Shenzhen, I fucked 2 girls in the pink apartments, and got horrible service both times.

In Zhuhai, Changping & Shenzhen, I fucked loads of streetwalkers and BBS girls. When I took the girl to my room, I had nothing but positive experiences.

Every time I was on their turf, I had a bad experience. No exceptions.
Every time I took the girl away from her comfort zone and onto my territory, I had a positive experience. No exceptions.

The pattern is abundantly clear. As a laowai, you simply cannot afford to spend time on their turf. Finding a girl and taking her home straight away is the only way to go.

Why does a dog lick his balls? Because he can! Put a girl in a position where she can take advantage of you, and there’s a fair chance she will.

I will never visit another sauna in China. I will never visit another KTV in China. I will never fuck another girl in her room. No more away games!

A laowai in China is at a disadvantage from the start. Giving the girl home advantage as well is asking for trouble. As a laowai in China, you must make sure you have home advantage!

Loso

Loso69
01-15-07, 22:17
Johnnykon,

I wasn’t quite sure what happened at the DMY sauna. It was actually you who suggested Her Bing tried to scam me. I was prepared to let her keep her 50 RMB tip, but you said she didn’t deserve it as she provided incomplete service and tried to scam me. Since you seem to have second thoughts about the whole situation, I feel bad about not letting her keep her tip.

Her Bing wasn’t really a negative experience. I’d say it was a good experience with an unfortunate ending. The Jin Yu sauna situation was totally different, as the entire personnel ganged up on me in order to scam this laowai. I was in a foul mood for the rest of the night, but didn’t dwell on it. The next day, I moved to Changping thinking positive thoughts...

Even though I couldn’t communicate with them at all, I did have some great times with the China Dolls. The Chinese have a reputation of being obsessed with money, thinking about nothing else 24/7. But I found many Chinese girls to be sweet and affectionate and didn’t often see the $ signs in their eyes.

On this one month trip, I planned on spending some time in China and then heading for my favorite mongering destination (still the PI). But I stayed in China for the entire month and ended up skipping the PI. If I wasn’t having a good time, I could have rushed through 5 cities in 10 days. The fact that I didn’t is testament to the great looks and wonderful service provided by the China Dolls.

Loso

Crazier
01-16-07, 05:18
I will never visit another sauna in China. I will never visit another KTV in China. I will never fuck another girl in her room. No more away games!

A laowai in China is at a disadvantage from the start. Giving the girl home advantage as well is asking for trouble. As a laowai in China, you must make sure you have home advantage

Good point.
However, you do not take full advantage of all that China has on offer. If you take some effort to learn some rudimentary Mandarin & some ground rules, you might improve yr experiences in those places.
E.g. In karaokes you have 15 mins to interview her FOC & U can determine if she will go back with U b4 you keep her after 15 mins &, get mami agreement on that. Also yr sample of 1 karaoke is too small.
For sauna, the major problem is photos as far I know. If you dont force this issue, my own experiences on average are better, then again, I am not laowai so I may not be qualified to comment!

RCA Knight
01-16-07, 10:50
I also paid my tuitions at the saunas and KTVs when I started in China, but as you get familiar of the systems and get to know the faces of the managers of your favorite places, then they will not dare to scam you anymore.

I also bought a Chinese language tape to immitate some words in Chinese, especially vocabularies on money matter, and it really works , and these papas and mamas think I am a long time expert in this field.

I uaually know the prices before I go certain places now, and in KTVs, you just have to be straight that you want to screw a particular girl from the beginning, if she says cannot, then send her away immediately, no tip involved, this is normal in KTVs, do not be shy to send away anyone who has no interest to screw.

If you go a few more times, and get to know the systems and pricings, then they will not scam you. But paying some extra tuitions at the beginning is quite normal for all foreigners in the process of becoming China expert.

Azn Playa
01-16-07, 11:11
In Zhuhai, I got scammed on both my sauna visits.
In Changping, I visited a KTV once. At the end of the evening, both girls sitting with me refused to leave with me. It cost me a bundle of money and I ended up with nothing.
In Shenzhen, I fucked 2 girls in the pink apartments, and got horrible service both times.

In Zhuhai, Changping & Shenzhen, I fucked loads of streetwalkers and BBS girls. When I took the girl to my room, I had nothing but positive experiences.

Every time I was on their turf, I had a bad experience. No exceptions.
Every time I took the girl away from her comfort zone and onto my territory, I had a positive experience. No exceptions.

The pattern is abundantly clear. As a laowai, you simply cannot afford to spend time on their turf. Finding a girl and taking her home straight away is the only way to go.

Why does a dog lick his balls? Because he can! Put a girl in a position where she can take advantage of you, and there’s a fair chance she will.

I will never visit another sauna in China. I will never visit another KTV in China. I will never fuck another girl in her room. No more away games!

A laowai in China is at a disadvantage from the start. Giving the girl home advantage as well is asking for trouble. As a laowai in China, you must make sure you have home advantage!



Yes home advantage can help but it doesn't guarantee success. Sauna girls can be hit or miss at times and if it doesnt go to plan for me I just need to roll with the punches. I haven't been with that many sauna girls in ZH as I am normally passing through or visiting ZH at the busiest times (which prompts me not to visit) but most of them have left me very happy. Some were truely amazing - others tried to provide less. If they were in a rush to get things done, then I still intended to utilise the full 90 minutes (which we have paid for) and get a second pop. Some try to refuse this which needs language skills to fix the situation. I am completely screwed if they only speak cantonese though.

My expectations of what I want from a SW might be different to yours, but there have been some girls that I haven't been happy with - and they have been in my room to deliver the service. Problems often stem from something related to money, but if a girl is really new and doesnt want to give me a BJ then I won't try to force her. Its no big deal because then I can last longer with the FS (and some of these girls are ultra-tight).

If the girl is a scammer then there isn't much you can do, regardless of where you are, sauna or at home. I try my best to relax them as much as possible and try to joke around and sugar coat the sweetness at times. This can have a positive effect and has enabled me to take naked photo's of most sauna girls I have been with. Pulling out a camera too early can scare them off - I make it seem like I dont care either way (or if I'm desperate, pout and pretend to cry!) and they usually come around. Having a high-res phone camera can make it easier too and they appear to be less threatened by it than a proper camera. Appearing inexperienced with P4P girls and letting them drive the action can make them less suspicious you are a hard-core monger who plans to put all their pics on a monger board. Many girls that have asked me about the pics (and some are very graphic) will seem to believe that the pics are only for me. As some assholes report back to the girls about the pics they have seen on the net, it can get you into deep shit and possibly prevent you from having future success with another girl from that sauna/bar/bbs/ktv. This is why so many mongers are resistant to post revealing pics these days on any board, including me.

Loso69
01-16-07, 20:34
You do not take full advantage of all that China has on offer.

I only try and sample the different options on a first visit. On subsequent visits, I restrict myself to the ones I liked.

In Rio, the situation is totally the opposite. The termas girls provide the most amazing service, even though you’re playing away. The freelancers are nothing but trouble.

My return to Rio is my top priority for 2007. But I will never set foot on Avenida Atlantico. You won’t see me dead in Help Disco. I won’t even consider fucking a freelancer. Am I limiting my options? Maybe. But by doing so, I’m assuring myself of a hassle-free fun-filled holiday.


I also paid my tuitions at the saunas and KTVs when I started in China, but as you get familiar of the systems and get to know the faces of the managers of your favorite places, then they will not dare to scam you anymore.

That may be the Chinese way, but it ain’t my way. If I don’t get good service on my first visit, you’ll never see my face again.


If the girl is a scammer then there isn't much you can do, regardless of where you are, sauna or at home.

The hell there isn’t! If a girl doesn’t perform in my room, she won’t get paid and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about that!

They may feel comfortable on their home turf where they can get away with murder as help is just a shout away. But that won’t wash when they’re in my room,... and they bloody well know it!


Pulling out a camera too early can scare them off.

To make absolutlely sure I'll get the pictures, I never fuck a girl without obtaining photographic evidence first. I get better results that way as well, because the girls realize that it’s a deal breaker. If you fuck her and she refuses pictures afterwards, there’s nothing you can do. If she refuses pictures beforehand, I let her walk and don’t waste my money.

BTW, I don’t care about naked pictures. I’m into glamour photography and want the girls to model for me. A camera phone simply won’t do. I want quality pictures and use a bulky digital SLR camera.

Loso

Superforce99
01-17-07, 02:32
......

The hell there isn’t! If a girl doesn’t perform in my room, she won’t get paid and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about that!

They may feel comfortable on their home turf where they can get away with murder as help is just a shout away. But that won’t wash when they’re in my room,... and they bloody well know it!


Loso


Well, that would be good thinking if most of the sex business in Zhuhai wasn't controlled by a tasty combination
of the Chinese mafia and local police. I agree that you should stand your ground if you didn't get serviced at
all or get totally false service, but if she actually had sex with you and you're trying to pick bones about it and not
pay her, it's never a good idea, regardless of the hotel you are in (lower star hotels they can gain direct access to
your room and for higher star hotels, you're in for a nasty surprise as soon as you step out). This is not exactly a
legit business where you can go to the Better Business Bureau to complain if things go wrong, so if someone is getting
the short end of the deal, it's going to be the monger.

Anyway, I think that Azn Playa has his view of things (which is more similar to mine) and Loso has his view of thinking
which suits his needs. Whatever the view, just stay aware of your situation at all times, be respectful, and always be
ready to lose the price of a ST if things go wrong because $20-25 USD just isn't worth the potential consequences.
Live to monger another day I say...




Now to provide some (gasp!) information about the Zhuhai scene. Things are not bad at all right now and if I didn't read
about all the closures in Shenzhen, I would assume that nothing is going on. There are plenty of gals on Lian Hua Road
with a bump-up of about 15-20% on the busy Friday-Saturday-Sunday earnings period. I do notice that police van patrols
are a lot more frequently on LHL than before, but it's the same old routine of the gals hiding for a few minutes while the
van rolls by and then the girls coming back out on the street a minute or two later.

Went to visit several saunas yesterday, but only as a scouting/entertainment trip because an favorite regular LHL gal of
mine just returned from several months away and called me immediately to "get to familiar" with each other again. Went at
about 9:30pm and was pretty surprised at the higher quality (meaning average lookers of 6-8s, with more than a handful of 7-8s,
instead of the usual 4-7s, with a rare 7-8). The higher quality was true at the Jin Yue, Chang An Good World, and DMY saunas.
Actually, I was surprised that the cheapest sauna, DMY, actually had the best quality. In the past, I've seen some, ummm,
"interesting" alien species on duty at DMY, but I expect it since it's one of the cheapest, if not THE cheapest, sauna option
in Zhuhai so everyone from the budget conscious HK/Macau monger to the local taxi driver goes to DMY for some meat. And the
sheer number of gals at DMY is always impressive, especially if you come in the early evenings, where I have had at least 6
lineups of 8-9 gals (much to the annoyance of the captain).

Unfortunately, my old favorite, the Xiangjiang Sauna seems to be on its last legs. Every time I go there, it seems like I
recognize about 90-95% of the gals. Either that means the present workers give such good service that a unending stream of
regulars go there (no my experience) or perhaps no other gals want to work there? Anyway, I'm close to going on hiatus from
Xiangjiang for a few months in hopes that it will get gestate and change for the better. The "2 dragon horse" sauna that I
lovingly wrote about a while ago which had been closed for renovation was open again but the weird thing is that not one
thing seemed to have been renovated and every last detail looked the same/as grungy as before. I guess they may not have
made their payoffs to the mafia/cops or something. The girls were a lot lower quality than my last experience, about 4-6s.

Finally, on the recommendation of a taxi driver (who, ofcourse had never been there himself but his customers raved about it)
I went to the Year 2000 Hotel sauna. I didn't even know this hotel had a sauna, but I guess every big hotel in Zhuhai must
have one. Strangely, when I first stepped out of the elevator, the female captain was chatting with the front desk girl and
looked at me like I was lost. I said I wanted the sauna and she looked at me questioningly, and then led me to a room. I'm not sure
if I was too young looking, too much undercover-police looking, or business was so slow they were surprised anyone came. Anyway,
the facilities were pretty nice, almost like a fancy KTV room, except there's a bed in the middle of the room. Flat screen TV,
over-the-top gold foil-ish wallpaper everywhere, fake Italian renaissance furniture, etc. Obviously, the room had been recently
renovated as the bathroom was hilariously plain and classic 2-star hotel style with dingy-white tile and bare fluorescent lighting.
There was a weird, colorful plastic chair in the bathroom that looked liked it belonged in a preschool and I'm assuming it was
for the gal to wash/fuck/lick you during the shower. The captain brought 3 girls at a time and it was a slow-ass process, about
5 minutes per lineup. After the second lineup, average looks had been 5-7 thus far, I was about to leave when the mamasan talked
me into staying and she would bring "the best girls." True to her word, a minute or two later, three nice looking gals, about 7-8s,
came in. Petite, young, and nice looking, they were collectively the best I've seen outside of Dongguan. "Damn, Captain ****, what
took you so long??" I thought, as I looked at the now-smirking captain. I wasn't there for service, so I left. Prices aren't cheap
here, with a 268 RMB room fee + 300 RMB girl fee = 568 RMB fee. I'll try it out next time and see how it is.

One last detail I can add from a scouting trip a few weeks ago is that the Yue Hai Hotel (GD Regency) also has an in-house sauna.
The pricing structure is exactly like the Year 2000 Hotel and it took me about 4 lineups before I found any acceptable girl. The
male captain is a pretty slimy, slick character and would make a perfect car salesman caricature. The facilities are old, the girls
are acceptable at best, and the 568 RMB price is expensive for what's offered so I don't think I'll be trying this one out in the
future.


That's it for now. Stay safe and have fun.


J

Azn Playa
01-17-07, 13:18
I only try and sample the different options on a first visit. On subsequent visits, I restrict myself to the ones I liked.

But how would you know if you were unlucky the first time and normally should expect to enjoy it?

Miscommunication is rampant if two people don't speak each others' language.



That may be the Chinese way, but it ain’t my way. If I don’t get good service on my first visit, you’ll never see my face again.

Mongering in China needs time to take advantage of how good it can be.

Its like someone going to Pattaya for a night, having one bad experience, then saying the place sucks and never return. Surely if so many western mongers thoroughly enjoy mongering at one place in ZH it should be worth another try?



The hell there isn’t! If a girl doesn’t perform in my room, she won’t get paid and there’s absolutely nothing she can do about that!

Apart from getting 4 guys to jump you, rob everything you're carrying, then beat you within an inch of your life.



They may feel comfortable on their home turf where they can get away with murder as help is just a shout away. But that won’t wash when they’re in my room,... and they bloody well know it!

Ummm, unfortunately - no they don't.
An experienced street walker doesn't give a fuck about you and usually has many dangerous friends who can help her out.

Johnnykon has written lengthy reports about what to expect from ZH saunas and the fines girls can receive if they don't deliver. Be friendly to the captain and they will make sure you leave happy to ensure repeat business (but if you look like a one-time visitor to ZH/China and act in a way they don't like, then they won't help you and will want you to just pay and leave).



To make absolutlely sure I'll get the pictures, I never fuck a girl without obtaining photographic evidence first. I get better results that way as well, because the girls realize that it’s a deal breaker. If you fuck her and she refuses pictures afterwards, there’s nothing you can do. If she refuses pictures beforehand, I let her walk and don’t waste my money.

So if you meet a girl that give's you an instant hard-on (or even a 'fantasy' type girl) you won't fuck her without a photo first? If I see a girl I MUST have then I will worry about the pics later. If the girl is a FL and you're nice to her in bed, then she still has to wait for the money and some friendly insistant smiles always get me some pics (not always naked from Chinese FLs though).



BTW, I don’t care about naked pictures. I’m into glamour photography and want the girls to model for me. A camera phone simply won’t do. I want quality pictures and use a bulky digital SLR camera.

A large camera like that WILL make you look like a professional who is using the pics for another purpose than 'holiday happy snaps'. If you were into KTVs you wouldn't even get it into a room, which is why so many friends of mine like their trusty highres phones. My pocket digital camera takes great pics and I often carry it with me (unless I am planning on drinking that night).

AquaSponge1
01-17-07, 14:24
I broke my LHL cherry last week...finally! I can swear that I've never had this kind of experience before in China...stayed at the Holiday Inn, took a 20RMB taxi ride to LHL...walk less than 10 steps from the taxi and I was approached!

Decided to turn down the first SW to see what others are on offer...didn't take long for them to see that I was a mongerer. I do say that the offerings do vary from your average 5 to some 8's by my standard. After walking for 3 minutes, the first SW whom I turned down suddenly caught up with me. Apparantly, she was following me all the way down. Decided to reward her with her persistance (even though there were others better looking ones)...however, since I value a good attitude to good looks...I sensed that I will not be let down by this one.

200RMB for S/T. Uncovered BJ, several positions later..I blew my load. Nothing spectacular but I was not expecting much for a SW.

Unfortuantely, Johnnykon66 your mobile was switched off (probably out of town?)...will call you next time I'm in town.

I passed a street full of bars (was told it was called Bar Street by the cabbie). Looks like a cool place to hangout before hitting LHL...

Crazier
01-17-07, 14:25
AP.,

Took the words out of my mouth there!

C.

Loso69
01-17-07, 20:52
Azn Playa,

1) Saunas

If you go to a MP in Thailand, ALL the girls are sitting there for ANYONE to pick. In China, they show you line-ups according to your rank. As a laowai, I’m at the bottom of the food chain.

Saunas have male captains. There is no place for men in P4P, except for the punters. I couldn’t stand any of the slimy bastards.

You have to play away, while I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my own room.

I hated the system. I hated the captains. The girls’ looks were below par. I hated EVERYTHING about the saunas.

2) KTV

I can’t stand bloody karaoke singing.

The karaoke joint I visited had over 100 girls and the quality wasn’t any better than at the BBS.

KTV girls are definitely more stuck-up, even with Chinese punters.

KTV is bloody expensive.

I visited a KTV purely as a cultural experience. Once was enough to conclude I never want to subject my ears to Chinese singing again!

3) Pictures

I took over 10,000 pictures of 177 different girls last year. My way gets me 100% success rate and an average of over 50 pictures a shoot. When it comes to photography, I know what the hell I’m doing!

Johnnykon,

I’m not stupid. If I fuck the girl, I will pay her.

But if a girl refuses to fuck because my dick is supposedly too big (happened in Shenzhen), I won’t settle for a HJ.

If a girl refuses pictures, I’ll send her back without pay (Zhuhai) or exchange her at the BBS (Changping).

If a girl goes LT, wants to leave after 1 round and still expects to get paid in full (happened in the DR), she can forget about it.

If a girl goes LT (agreed to 2 rounds, sleep 8 hours) & wakes me up early morning, all dressed up and ready to go (also happened in DR), she’ll only get half the agreed amount as well.

Way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!

Loso

Fran123
01-17-07, 21:35
Azn Playa,

1) Saunas

If you go to a MP in Thailand, ALL the girls are sitting there for ANYONE to pick. In China, they show you line-ups according to your rank. As a laowai, I’m at the bottom of the food chain.

Saunas have male captains. There is no place for men in P4P, except for the punters. I couldn’t stand any of the slimy bastards.

You have to play away, while I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my own room.

I hated the system. I hated the captains. The girls’ looks were below par. I hated EVERYTHING about the saunas.

2) KTV

I can’t stand bloody karaoke singing.

The karaoke joint I visited had over 100 girls and the quality wasn’t any better than at the BBS.

KTV girls are definitely more stuck-up, even with Chinese punters.

KTV is bloody expensive.

I visited a KTV purely as a cultural experience. Once was enough to conclude I never want to subject my ears to Chinese singing again!

3) Pictures

I took over 10,000 pictures of 177 different girls last year. My way gets me 100% success rate and an average of over 50 pictures a shoot. When it comes to photography, I know what the hell I’m doing!

Johnnykon,

I’m not stupid. If I fuck the girl, I will pay her.

But if a girl refuses to fuck because my dick is supposedly too big (happened in Shenzhen), I won’t settle for a HJ.

If a girl refuses pictures, I’ll send her back without pay (Zhuhai) or exchange her at the BBS (Changping).

If a girl goes LT, wants to leave after 1 round and still expects to get paid in full (happened in the DR), she can forget about it.

If a girl goes LT (agreed to 2 rounds, sleep 8 hours) & wakes me up early morning, all dressed up and ready to go (also happened in DR), she’ll only get half the agreed amount as well.

Way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!

Loso

1st First you hate the Sauna.
2nd Then you can't stand any of the slimy bastards captains
3rd Then you can’t stand bloody karaoke singing and drinking
4th Sounds like you are a cheap bastard at a KTV
5th You got a big white Brockworth sauage that the girls don't normally see

Overall, you HATE EVERYTHING then you should stay out of China and be relieved of your frustrations. You are in a foreign country you should try to respect the cultural but that’s you own opinion. Best you go back to Rio.

I do agree way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!

Loso69
01-17-07, 23:40
Overall, you HATE EVERYTHING then you should stay out of China and be relieved of your frustrations.

I liked the SW in Zhuhai and loved the BBS girls in Changping!

No captains. No singing. Just pick up a girl and party in your own room.

Loso

Azn Playa
01-18-07, 11:29
Azn Playa,

1) Saunas

If you go to a MP in Thailand, ALL the girls are sitting there for ANYONE to pick. In China, they show you line-ups according to your rank. As a laowai, I’m at the bottom of the food chain.

Saunas have male captains. There is no place for men in P4P, except for the punters. I couldn’t stand any of the slimy bastards.

You have to play away, while I prefer to fuck the girls in the comfort of my own room.

I hated the system. I hated the captains. The girls’ looks were below par. I hated EVERYTHING about the saunas.


In Thailand, the best looking girls in a soapy are usually higher priced. Especially in the large ones where they sit on different steps or have different coloured badges. ZH sauna girls are the same price. If a TL soapy stunner hasn't had you as a customer before, you won't get the best experience from her anyway. Probably just average at best (unless the guy promises a large tip beforehand, which I never do).

Most of the captains I have had in ZH were female, and they got me the girls I asked for. If you tell her (in chinese) "tall girl, large breasts, young face" then she will arrange a line-up to try and match that. If you can't speak a word of chinese then it's not going to be easy! As Johnnykon says, always refuse the first line-up. It might take 3-4 line-ups to see a girl you like. Maybe more. If the place is busy then there won't be a good selection of any types of girl anyway. Go back the next day when business is slow and you will see some great looking girls.

Fucking a girl twice in a ST sauna session, receiving BBBJs and AR, body-to-body massage and (in some saunas) very plush decor - yeah, I can see why a person would 'hate everything' about saunas! Sheeesh!!

I can tell you though - I'm hooked!



3) Pictures
I took over 10,000 pictures of 177 different girls last year. My way gets me 100% success rate and an average of over 50 pictures a shoot. When it comes to photography, I know what the hell I’m doing!


Of course you get 100% success - you won't fuck them otherwise!
I think the last time I didnt get a decent pic of a girl that I fucked was back in 2004. I took one of her while she was turned away and then refused.

You mentioned almost all your pics are clothed? I haven't met a girl that wont let me take a clothed pic before she leaves. They are used to it.
The difficult job is to get them to allow naked pics and takes some skill which is a mixture of what I already wrote about. In China they are less willing to do this than most other Asian countries (from my experience). I still get them from many chinese girls though! :)

Minkfan1
01-18-07, 11:36
Hi all,

I'd like to chime in and say I agree with Loso 100%. Whether it's with an SW or at an establishment, if you are not a regular or don't know a regular, then the cards are stacked against you in terms of quality and/or service. Luck starts to take on a bigger factor. A friend of mine who went to some of the same places that I went to showed me pictures on his laptop. I surely did not see those beauties when I was there. Maybe it's his camera. He told me of stories how those ladies gave him complete GFE - long passionate DFK, bbbjcim, etc. Maybe his memory is warped because of all the pot he's smoked in his lifetime. But he did go with regulars who are big spenders at those establishments.

I've had experiences at saunas and ktvs where I wanted to tell the manager "this place is a piece of sh*t, all your girls are ugly." I've had horrible experiences with SW's who I wanted to say "hey b*tch, I wasn't born yesterday. Keep this up and I'll beat the sh*t out of you." Fortunately, my big head prevailed. I reminded myself that this is China, that face is important, and that people have been killed for pocket change. When sh*t hits the fan, by the time I reach in my pockets to call for backup, I may have sustained several stabs already.

Yes, the cards are stacked against you. But you can win. Stand firm, but let your opponent build a bridge to retreat. Be explicit about expectations up front. It won't work 100% of the time, but I believe it should work most of the time.

If I may, here's a couple of strategies that I've learned from others on this board and from experience to maximize the fun/cost factor.

KTV's
Why they can suck: relatively expensive, stuck looking at B team lineups, bad singing, drinking

How to minimize risk: If it is a larger KTV, usually there's a lounge where you can watch a performance and buy drinks individually, thus eliminating the minimum charge for private rooms. Buy a beer and ask a mommy for lineups. Stand your ground if you don't see anything you like. The mommies will BS you and say no more lineups. The lineups will keep coming. If you don't see anything you like, pay the bill, which should be around 50rmb to 100rmb and walk. When you finally pick, ask the girl if she will do ST/LT, depending on your preference. Then proceed to further questions such as bbbj, how long is the bbbj, how many shots, what time she'll leave if LT, pictures allowed, naked pictures allowed, etc. Be detailed. Be detailed. Be detailed. Specifically tell her that if she doesn't do what was negotiated she will not be paid. Ask her twice to confirm. This interview can sometimes backfire because it may make the lady feel like a piece of meet. From experience, they know they are hookers, but they don't like being treated like one. I think it is a tradeoff between time and directness. I have a friend who, like many mongers out there, spends most of his time in the KTV conversing with his ladies. By the end of the night he's able to tell which girl is willing to do what, but he does it in a smooth way. He gets the data points that he wants; She doesn't feel like dirt. Again, it is a tradeoff between time and directness. If you don't speak Chinese, have someone write your questions out. Yes, it's crude, but it gets the job done.

Saunas
Why they can suck: B team lineups, bad service

How to minimize risk: If you don't see anything interesting, just tell the manager maybe it is bad timing and you'll be back later. They may insist that you stay, maybe even insist that you pay for the room. Just tell them don't worry and that you'll be back later in the day, and keep walking. Smile. For bad service, such as lack of enthusiasm, just chalk it up to experience.

What if you just want to stick with SW's and BBS's. No harm done. The great thing about China is that it offers so many different avenues to experience. The pro/con, cost/benefit ratios are different for everyone. Some people like a variety of experiences, some people find their niche. Loso's experiences are valid. I speak close to perfect Mandarin, tip like crazy, and still have had my share of bad experiences.

So what should you do if the other party reneges on their promises? My advice is the same - stand firm, let the opponent build a bridge to retreat. If that doesn't work, it's up to you. But as I tell my friends, "BBFS is okay if you understand and accept the risks."

just my two cents,

minkfan

RCA Knight
01-18-07, 12:09
One big difference in the saunas in China and soapies in Thailand is the service menu. The China sauna girls are trained to followed a set of mandatory service menu but in the soapies in Thailand, is all up to the girl's feeling to do whatever she wants with the particular customer.

Most sideliners in Bangkok will not give bbbj and many won't even give any bj, after spending 3000-5000 bahts for a super sideline sometimes thats what you get, basiclly nothing. But China sauna girls will follow the set of service menu that are mandatory.

About ripping off, both countries will rip off newbies, Thai soapies sometimes even have double pricing for westerners, and sometimes reject Arabs, Indian, African or western customers or even all foreigners in some local shops.

This industry is very commercial, business-like in both countries, do not expect too much imtimacy. Should just treat it as money to buy a service.
Price-wise, China now has much better quality/price/service performance over Thailand which I consider its on quick decline.

To avoid rip off is you just have to know how much to pay for before you go. The prices are mostly quite standard in all saunas in Zhuhai, girls have same pricing basically. I feel quick comfortable in Zhuhai saunas after a few visits, and the mamasans all know I am not newbie, so they won't even dare to try to quote me extras.

Peterhk
01-18-07, 14:55
Went to Zhuhai SPA Club as my friend came over to visit and chose to book a room there. We tried the girls even though they asked 400 RMB per each (too much!), and were really disappointed. Hardly any lineup (6 girls at 11 pm), all ugly. Never again.

Headed to our standard Dai Ming Yuen and got the standard 280 RMB all inclusive deal: Shower, Sauna, BJ, Massage, Fuck and lots of gals to choose from.

Why choose 200 RMB streetwalkers when you can get this deal?? And no, I don't work for them =)

And chewie: If you show up with 4 friends for their service, all of you will get a VIP card that gives you 15% off in future. Anyone wanna go? PM me....

Loso69
01-18-07, 21:21
Azn Playa,

The target audience for my reports is newbie laowais who don’t speak a word of Chinese!

Things are totally different for Chinese. Things are different if you speak the language. Things are different for regular visitors. Where my target audience is concerned, my conclusions stand!

When I do research, I always focus on reports written by people of the same race and age category, with similar language skills. Only those reports are truly relevant.

BTW, I don’t want one pic. I want an actual photo shoot! In the Philippines, I’m disappointed if I don’t get at least 100 pictures of each girl.

PS
What’s your ethnic background?

RCA Knight,

My last soapie girl in Thailand fucked me bareback and insisted I come inside her. Afterwards, she told me she wanted to know what it would feel like. As a disclaimer, I have to say that I speak perfect Thai.

I wonder how Arabs, Indians & Africans would fare in a country as obviously racist as China. They probably wouldn’t be able to get laid at all. BTW, any black guys on the Chinese board?

Minkfan,

It’s obvious that saunas & KTVs are not the place to go for newbie laowais without language skills.

BTW, I have a theory that the good service I got from the Chinese girls can partially be explained by the fact that... I ate their pussies. Chinese men don’t, but most Chinese girls absolutely love it. Try it some day! :)

Loso

Player88
01-19-07, 03:09
Fantastic series of reports Loso. Just thought a quick thanks is in order as I shall be visiting this Chinese city in the near future so all the information you posted will likely come in handy. this is juat an advances thank you for helping provide a nice foundation of information.

Superforce99
01-19-07, 04:17
azn playa,
....

johnnykon,

i’m not stupid. if i fuck the girl, i will pay her.

but if a girl refuses to fuck because my dick is supposedly too big (happened in shenzhen), i won’t settle for a hj.

if a girl refuses pictures, i’ll send her back without pay (zhuhai) or exchange her at the bbs (changping).

if a girl goes lt, wants to leave after 1 round and still expects to get paid in full (happened in the dr), she can forget about it.

if a girl goes lt (agreed to 2 rounds, sleep 8 hours) & wakes me up early morning, all dressed up and ready to go (also happened in dr), she’ll only get half the agreed amount as well.

way too many mongers let the girls get away with anything!

loso


did i call you stupid in writing or in conversation?

all i was trying to emphasize was that mongers should be firm, to a degree, and get what they are paying for, but not
to have a "i'm the customer and customer is king" type of attitude where if you paid for "abcxyz for $$" and then raise
hell if you got anything less. it would be somewhat good advice for legitimate business transactions, but we're discussing
sws, so it's not. also, the sw action in zh is much more directly mafia-controlled than other parts of china,
so this "king" attitude could lead to some serious beatdowns, if not death. i think that expecting all people in the sex
industry to speak english and to be nitpicking about pictures was going down a slippery slope and i just hoped that you
stayed aware and safe. nothing more, nothing less.




btw, i have a theory that the good service i got from the chinese girls can partially be explained by the fact that... i ate their pussies. chinese men don’t, but most chinese girls absolutely love it. try it some day!



from my conversations with gals, not many native chinese mongers eat pussy, because they don't see why the
hell they should be putting their mouth near pussies that have seen hella strange cocks, ha ha...many have told me
that a majority of non-china mongers (including hk and japanese) and white foreigners do like perform daty, too.

and the girls don't necessarily like daty and give you better service because you do it. they told me that if a monger
does daty, there is a high chance that the monger only wants sex and not some other stuff like s&m, rep001/[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) play, etc.
they told me that some mongers want some really weird shit or can be violent or other stuff, so if they feel calm and secure,
then they'll usually give better service. but i'm sure there are some girls that give appreciate service because of your daty service so good for you and
good for them.



j

Crazier
01-19-07, 04:18
Hang on... what??

Is this your way of actually agreeing with something I posted on ISG?

Well I guess there is the first time for everything.

AP.,

Perhaps you were caught up in the exchanges not to read what I wrote previously carefully enough.

Look again, I did agree with you even before this!

C.

Loso69
01-19-07, 20:38
Johnnykon,

You didn’t call me stupid… but plenty of hoes did. :) I speak 4 languages fluently and can communicate in a few others. They speak nothing but Chinese, yet I was the stupid one. :)

The main reason why I eat the girls’ pussies is to get them wet. Nothing beats natural lubrication and it feels so much better to fuck a wet snatch. Or maybe I’m simply too cheap to waste my Astroglide. :)

Loso

Neuromancer
01-20-07, 17:44
Johnnykon,

You didn’t call me stupid… but plenty of hoes did. :) I speak 4 languages fluently and can communicate in a few others. They speak nothing but Chinese, yet I was the stupid one. :)

The main reason why I eat the girls’ pussies is to get them wet. Nothing beats natural lubrication and it feels so much better to fuck a wet snatch. Or maybe I’m simply too cheap to waste my Astroglide. :)

LosoLoso,

If you don't speak Chinese, how did you know that they were calling you stupid? :) Maybe they were telling you that they love you and wanted to have your children?

Ace Gallant
01-20-07, 17:57
Johnnykon,

You didn’t call me stupid… but plenty of hoes did. :) I speak 4 languages fluently and can communicate in a few others. They speak nothing but Chinese, yet I was the stupid one. :)

The main reason why I eat the girls’ pussies is to get them wet. Nothing beats natural lubrication and it feels so much better to fuck a wet snatch. Or maybe I’m simply too cheap to waste my Astroglide. :)

Loso


Loso, I think we met in CP.

IMHO: Rimming and Eating Sex workers pussies is a dangerous game. You never know who was in there before. The previous guy could have left something behind.

Enjoy Zhu Hai!
AG

Loso69
01-20-07, 19:46
Neuromancer,

I was accompanied by mongers who did speak Chinese…

Ace Gallant,

We did meet in CP. You’ll even get a mention in my report. :)

If it leads to better sex, I’ll take my chances...

BTW, are you suggesting that Chinese mongers don't cover up?

Loso

Neuromancer
01-20-07, 22:04
Neuromancer,

I was accompanied by mongers who did speak Chinese…

Ace Gallant,

We did meet in CP. You’ll even get a mention in my report. :)

If it leads to better sex, I’ll take my chances...

BTW, are you suggesting that Chinese mongers don't cover up?

LosoAre you sure that they didn't wanna bear your children? :)

Being a Chinese mongerer, I definitely prefer covering up. There was only one time that I didn't (in my 10 years or so of mongering) and it was with a girl who insisted on going bb (we had been hanging around for a few days or so, I guess that she wanted to bear my children). But even if everyone covers up, don't you think there's a chance of catching something? I suppose that when you DATY, if there is enough light, should atleast be able to notice anything obvious. Not criticizing you. I personally like to DATY as well, but not all the time. Sort of depends on the situation.

Went down on a regular 141 girl recently.-- she actually refused to kiss me on the mouth afterwards (it wasn't a problem beforehand). So I don't think it always leads to better sex. I think that about 75% of the time, I'm sure that the girl enjoys it, but also depends on what is your definition of better sex. Having the girl enjoy the sex is part of my definition, but DFK is as well. And if I had to choose, I would choose DFK over the girl enjoying the sex.

Ace Gallant
01-21-07, 05:14
Neuromancer,

I was accompanied by mongers who did speak Chinese…

Ace Gallant,

We did meet in CP. You’ll even get a mention in my report. :)

If it leads to better sex, I’ll take my chances...

BTW, are you suggesting that Chinese mongers don't cover up?

Loso

The Answer is YES!

A lot of Chinese or even local people who visit the BBS in CP do not use protection. Thanks to the country's poor sex education! Notice nowadays the Chinese government is stepping into sex education? Another big part is the sex education of these girls. They would want to use protection because they are just afraid of getting pregnant not becuase of diease prevention!

I had chatted with many BBS girls and they told me that we, foreigners, are usually "paranoid". They "think" they are clean after they wash themselve. If you ask them, a lot of CP BBS girl will take the risk of bareback if you pay them more! For that reason, I do not bareback them or even go near their pussies, ass, mouth with my mouth and dick. The girls told me that the local Chinese prefer bareback.

Enjoy and be safe!
AG

Loso69
01-21-07, 16:01
The Answer is YES!

I lot of Chinese or even local people who visit the BBS in CP do not use protection. Thanks to the country's poor sex education! Notice nowadays the Chinese government is stepping into sex education? Another big part is the sex education of these girls. They would want to use protection because they are just afriad to get pregnant not becuase of diease prevention!

I chatted with many BBS girls and they told me that we, foreigners, are usually "paranoid". They "think" are clean and believe that they wash themselve up, they will be "clean". If you like to try asking them, a lot of CP BBS girl will take the risk of bareback if you pay them more! For that reason, I do not bareback them or even go near their pussies, ass, mouth with my mouth and dick. The girls told me that the local Chinese prefer bareback.

Enjoy and be safe!
AG

Very interesting feedback!

Still, knowing this won’t stop me from engaging in DFK, BBBJ and DATY, which I consider to be essential ingredients of a GFE.

Loso

Ace Gallant
01-21-07, 17:29
Very interesting feedback!

Still, knowing this won’t stop me from engaging in DFK, BBBJ and DATY, which I consider to be essential ingredients of a GFE.

Loso

Well then; Good luck to you. Make sure you have a lot of Mouth wash in stock.

And do us a favor... get yourself blood tests every now and then. If you did catch something...please don't pass it on. The risk is yours to take but not at others fellow monger's expense.

Enjoy!
AG

Neuromancer
01-21-07, 18:49
Very interesting feedback!

Still, knowing this won’t stop me from engaging in DFK, BBBJ and DATY, which I consider to be essential ingredients of a GFE.

LosoI was with a regular 141 girl here in HK. On this one occasion, went down on her and afterwards, she refused to DFK (which wasn't a problem BEFORE the DATY). Asked her what the problem was, since it was her own juices so to speak. Couldn't really give me a clear explanation, just that she didn't want to be putting her mouth on my mouth after my mouth had been someplace dirty.

On another occasion at a sauna (also here in HK), had plenty of DFK and DATY. This time she was ok with DFK after the DATY. But she freaked out when I took the hot towel to wipe my face (it was a new towel which she brought to the room after leaving to clean herself up). Said that she regretted kissing me. This was sort of odd and I suppose that the only explanation is that I have bad hygene habits, since those sort of towels are used ONLY for wiping hands and/or asses. Told me to NEVER EVER do that again. Cause you never know. She mentioned that she had this one customer who was sort of nasty to her (didn't go into details). And she wiped his ass/groin with the towel and later on gave it to him to wipe his face.

Anyway, guess there's a reason for all of that scrubbing and washing involved with most Chinese services. Not that I fully agree with them, but it is what it is. If I had to choose between DFK and DATY, I would take DFK every time.

Loso69
01-21-07, 23:20
Neuromancer,

Some Filipinas are like that as well, refusing to kiss you after you’ve eaten their pussy. I go to the CR, wash my mouth & gargle with Listerine and DFK is back on the program. One time, as an experiment, I went to the CR, closed the door and just stood there for a couple of minutes. I got no complaints when I got back. It’s all in the mind. :)

Ace Gallant,

At least I use condoms to fuck them. You should be more worried about the Chinese brethren who don’t.

Loso

Ace Gallant
01-22-07, 04:00
Neuromancer,

Some Filipinas are like that as well, refusing to kiss you after you’ve eaten their pussy. I go to the CR, wash my mouth & gargle with Listerine and DFK is back on the program. One time, as an experiment, I went to the CR, closed the door and just stood there for a couple of minutes. I got no complaints when I got back. It’s all in the mind. :)

Ace Gallant,

At least I use condoms to fuck them. You should be more worried about the Chinese brethren who don’t.

Loso

Loso,

I think I am more worried about fellow mongers, including you, catching something from the girls than those "Chinese brethren". We are much better educated than them and there is no reason why we should act like them. We take risks but calculated ones. For those "Chinese brethren" there is nothing we can do about it, they are lowly educated, but hey! AIDS did not start in China, it came from Africa! (I am not suggesting anything here). However I think we should protect ourselves as much as possible.

Keep your raincoat on when you are fucking them! That’s good! Do not be like certain member of the Philippines Fight club threads, he knows he is infected, he would still purposely Bareback the girls and proceed to infect her. That is what I call compromising ours risks to obtain own pleasure!

OK, back to the topic of finding girls for sex!

Enjoy and stay safe! Keep those bottles of Listerine stock up!
AG

Superforce99
01-22-07, 05:03
...

Enjoy and stay safe! Keep those bottles of Listerine stock up!
AG


Interesting that more than a few mongers have mentioned using mouthwash as some kind of protection/preventative measure against STDs.
As far as I know, there has been no scientific study on this topic and I'm not so confident about its effectiveness, either. I'm curious because
I know more than a few mongers/working gals who gain a sense of "invulunerability" because of this mouthwash belief which leads to more barebacking
behavior...

Anyone can add something to this?


J

Weelock
01-22-07, 05:52
Interesting that more than a few mongers have mentioned using mouthwash as some kind of protection/preventative measure against STDs.
As far as I know, there has been no scientific study on this topic and I'm not so confident about its effectiveness, either. I'm curious because
I know more than a few mongers/working gals who gain a sense of "invulunerability" because of this mouthwash belief which leads to more barebacking
behavior...

Anyone can add something to this?


J

Not mouthwash but toothpaste. I have one girl used my toothpaste to wash her pussy I thought at the time was weird. It was my own large tube of toothpaste and NOT the hotel's.

For some mouthwash, it contains some fourm of alcohol which kills germs. One would think it might also kill STD. Sorry don't know for sure.

Superforce99
01-22-07, 07:00
Not mouthwash but toothpaste. I have one girl used my toothpaste to wash her pussy I thought at the time was weird. It was my own large tube of toothpaste and NOT the hotel's.

For some mouthwash, it contains some fourm of alcohol which kills germs. One would think it might also kill STD.


Thanks for your interesting anecdotal contributions, but any hard evidence or clinical studies?

Though hilarious, stories in the vein of "Well, sonny, I do recall that Jimmy Dang Dean's brother's uncle once..."
are of limited use if one wants to really learn about STD protection. For example, simply pouring diluted alcohol (mouthwash)
on the skin's surface does not effectively prevent most STDs, particularly viral infections. I'm hoping to find some
info that has hard data showing which specific STDs (if any) are affected by mouthwash, if at all.

Thanks again.

J

Azn Playa
01-22-07, 12:38
There is some info in the 'safe sex' forum on ISG.

This is part of one of the posts from that forum (I didnt know how to hotlink the post):

"Reports show that Listerine is just as effective, and perhaps more so, as iodine- why not wipe listerine on the skin?

A Canadian Defence study on destroying bacteria on diving equipment found Listerine was best:

"Virus: Exposure to Listerine for 30secs is antiviral against herpes simplex, type 1, herpes simplex 2 and influenza A. Completely inhibited HIV in 30 sec, and is able to kill Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureaus (MRSA) in 30 sec.
Bacteria: Listerine kills Staphylococcus aureaus completely after 30sec. Kills Staphylococcus mitis, Mycobacterium smegmatis and M Bovis in 20 min. Most of 54 bacterial strains die after 30 sec.
Fungi: kills Candida Albicans in 20 min."

Donjuan0514
01-22-07, 16:22
I'll be making my virgin trip to ZH on February 5th and flying out on February 12th in two weeks.

Are any of you ZH veterans going to be around. Would really appreciate meeting up and getting a rundown of the place. Never mongered in China before, but I speak Mandarin a little (as much as an ABC can anyway).

I'll be in town with an American friend, hopefully that will help my situation out since I'm Chinese American and look like I'm in my early to mid 20s, hopefully my White friend, in his 50s, will help my situation out with meeting up with the ladies.

Read up on all the posts up to June 2006, but with time running out, and trying to put notes together, it's getting a little confusing. LOL.

Anyway thx in advance.

Donjuan0514

Superforce99
01-22-07, 18:11
There is some info in the 'safe sex' forum on ISG.

This is part of one of the posts from that forum (I didnt know how to hotlink the post):

"Reports show that Listerine is just as effective, and perhaps more so, as iodine- why not wipe listerine on the skin?

A Canadian Defence study on destroying bacteria on diving equipment found Listerine was best:

"Virus: Exposure to Listerine for 30secs is antiviral against herpes simplex, type 1, herpes simplex 2 and influenza A. Completely inhibited HIV in 30 sec, and is able to kill Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureaus (MRSA) in 30 sec.
Bacteria: Listerine kills Staphylococcus aureaus completely after 30sec. Kills Staphylococcus mitis, Mycobacterium smegmatis and M Bovis in 20 min. Most of 54 bacterial strains die after 30 sec.
Fungi: kills Candida Albicans in 20 min."


Hey AP,

Damn, I'm trying to find some evidence to support this Listerine/STD link because I want it to be true,
but so far no conclusive evidence or any citation of specific studies about Listerine and STDs. I did
find these other (mostly useless) Listerine facts, though:

-named after Joseph Lister

-contains 21.6% alchohol

-studies have shown Listerine effective in killing common unsightly toenail fungus infections

-Listerine had to spend $2 million to correct packaging and ads touting it was as effective as flossing

-Listerine strips were found ineffective at killing bacteria and germs in the human mouth even though
in lab conditions it was 100% effective

Anyway, enough about Listerine. Let's not make the Zhuhai thread as ridiculous as some of the other
threads...


J

Bill Lee
01-23-07, 14:43
There's so much on the posts about the saunas and LHL. Just make sure you negotiate the prices and services to be expected beforehand with the SWs. Don't be shy and ask. I always ask if they will blow me until I come.

Most saunas will not rip you off but the girls make give you lesser service. Maybe skip the Anal Rimming.

Read the posts. That's as nice as I can say about your inquiry.

BTW, you're only a ten walk from LHL to the Macau border and a free casino bus trip to the Lisboa Casino areas where the Lisboa basement pageant of SW beauties can now be had for 800HK. Used to be 500HK.

But like my friend says, why go to Macau when you can have the same mainlanders in China for a 1/4 of the price.

But you should check out the fishbowl showroom in the Macau saunas like Darling. Just worth seeing so many girls in one showroom. But the sauna deals are best in ZH.

Enough said, there's so much more in past posts. Read more of them. Use LHL and sauna in your search to cut down the rest of the bs on the thread.

Bill


I'll be making my virgin trip to ZH on February 5th and flying out on February 12th in two weeks.

Are any of you ZH veterans going to be around. Would really appreciate meeting up and getting a rundown of the place. Never mongered in China before, but I speak Mandarin a little (as much as an ABC can anyway).

I'll be in town with an American friend, hopefully that will help my situation out since I'm Chinese American and look like I'm in my early to mid 20s, hopefully my White friend, in his 50s, will help my situation out with meeting up with the ladies.

Read up on all the posts up to June 2006, but with time running out, and trying to put notes together, it's getting a little confusing. LOL.

Anyway thx in advance.

Donjuan0514

Ace Gallant
01-24-07, 05:42
Anyway, enough about Listerine. Let's not make the Zhuhai thread as ridiculous as some of the other
threads...


J

Facts of Listerine:

Listerine* Antiseptic Mouthwash

Product Description
LISTERINE can reduce plaque and gingivitis by up to 34% over brushing and flossing alone.
The only mouthwash to be recognized by the Canadian Dental Association to reduce gingivitis? that you can buy without a prescription.
Comes with a child resistant cap.

Directions for Use
Rinse full strength with 20 mL for 30 seconds twice a day to kill the germs that cause gingivitis, plaque, bad breath, and sore throats due to colds. Both Cool Mint and Fresh Burst LISTERINE are as effective as Original LISTERINE.

Note: Cold temperatures may cloud this product; its efficacy will not be affected.

Ingredients
Medicinal Ingredients: Eucalyptol 0.091% w/v, thymol 0.063% w/v, menthol 0.042% w/v.

Non-medicinal ingredients (alphabetically):
Original: Alcohol, benzoic acid, caramel, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, sodium benzoate, water.

Cool Mint: Alcohol, benzoic acid, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.

Fresh Burst: Alcohol, benzoic acid, D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.

Readers can decide whether it is affective against STD or not. So let us get back to the Subject of "Mongering". Thanks.

AG

Buko Max
01-24-07, 08:41
Interesting that more than a few mongers have mentioned using mouthwash as some kind of protection/preventative measure against STDs.

Anyone can add something to this?
Hello,

Just wanted to add that if you are going to DATY on a questionable lady, the stuff to use is chlorhexidine gluconate. It will kill everything in the mouth, I guarantee. Dentists perscribe it to kill gingivitis so you need a perscription for it in most countries.

Superforce99
01-24-07, 09:40
Facts of Listerine:

Listerine* Antiseptic Mouthwash

Product Description
LISTERINE can reduce plaque and gingivitis by up to 34% over brushing and flossing alone.
The only mouthwash to be recognized by the Canadian Dental Association to reduce gingivitis? that you can buy without a prescription.
Comes with a child resistant cap.

Directions for Use
Rinse full strength with 20 mL for 30 seconds twice a day to kill the germs that cause gingivitis, plaque, bad breath, and sore throats due to colds. Both Cool Mint and Fresh Burst LISTERINE are as effective as Original LISTERINE.

Note: Cold temperatures may cloud this product; its efficacy will not be affected.

Ingredients
Medicinal Ingredients: Eucalyptol 0.091% w/v, thymol 0.063% w/v, menthol 0.042% w/v.

Non-medicinal ingredients (alphabetically):
Original: Alcohol, benzoic acid, caramel, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, sodium benzoate, water.

Cool Mint: Alcohol, benzoic acid, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.

Fresh Burst: Alcohol, benzoic acid, D&C Yellow No. 10, FD&C Green No. 3, flavour, methyl salicylate, poloxamer, propanol, sodium benzoate, sodium saccharin, sorbitol, water.

Readers can decide whether it is affective against STD or not. So let us get back to the Subject of "Mongering". Thanks.

AG



AG,

Ha ha ha ha...whether you know it or not, you gave me the best laugh I've had in a long time...thanks for being a lamb!


J

Superforce99
01-26-07, 03:15
I had a bit of time yesterday night and didn’t feel like going along LHL or calling up any regular gals plus it was that chilling cold where you just shiver if you stand still, so I headed down to my current regular/favorite sauna place, Da Ming Yuan. As I got out of the taxi at the front door, about 10 sauna girls dressed in their street clothes hurriedly streamed out….hmmm, shift change, eh? Then some more sauna girls streamed out, this time some just in their sauna uniforms with or without a jacket. Then more…and more…and more gals came rushing out like cockroaches, going every which way, dissipating like cigarette smoke. Damn, must be a raid. Well, better it happen now than in the middle of my session. I walked inside the DMY to take a look and there were several HK mongers slowly walking out the door, complaining in Cantonese to each other and on their mobile phones about “trouble” at DMY and they would need to head elsewhere for fun tonight. The weird thing is no police or security or any other sign of the authorities, just girls streaming out the building like a fire drill, which was pretty entertaining.

So, with DMY out, I decided to give the “two dragon-horse animals” sauna another chance after a long break and a lack of quality recently. Like a battered wife, it’s easy for me to keep giving second chances and I wasn’t disappointed… (I got the following short/long report from another ISG member on one of the European or Thai boards, I forgot, but if I remember, I’ll credit him)

SHORT REPORT:
Had #5, a cute, petite gal from Fujian. Gave a nice body wash, BBBJCIM, and SOP FS for 298 RMB total. Would recommend her and will try her again.

LONG REPORT:
Finally took the time to find out the name of the “two dragon-horse animals” sauna and it is Fu Hai Jiu Dian (福海酒店) and the sauna is on the 4th floor. Walked in and without question, the captain leads me up to the 5th floor rooms and lets me wait in a clean, spacious sauna room with two beds, TV, and large bathroom with a soapie bed. The room was at least 40-45 square meters and is slightly better than DMY’s quality but not as good as Chang An Good World, maybe considered a 2.5-star quality. Chatted with the male captain for a few minutes and he seemed like a nice guy as much as a slimy-sauna captain can be nice. He said he would recommend a good gal for me and 5 minutes later, a slim, petite gal showed up. She wasn’t a sex bomb, but cute and I decided to keep her.

She got the soapie bed ready while I watched some TV and chatted with her. A nice, demure gal and was open to talking about most things. Apparently, she had gotten to work at about 8pm (it was about 11:30pm at this point) and it was a slow night in general for the sauna and the captain promised to help her. She said she would give me good service, which is always good to hear from the gal’s mouth and not the captain’s. Her soapie was excellent with massage washing, body to body slide, and even a nice soapie HJ that she seemed eager for me to come, but for some reason I couldn’t so after about 10 minutes, she stopped.

We got to the bed and she got the tray of hot water, ice, tea, etc. to get ready for the oral services. She put some hot water in her mouth and just started sucking immediately, with no body kissing, etc. which was different, ha…she just kept sucking and sucking and after a few minutes, I assumed she would stop like most sauna gals, but she just kept sucking and sucking…it wasn’t a great BBBJ, but it wasn’t the worst either. I repositioned her into a 69 position so I could inspect her vagina as she kept sucking. Vagina looked nice, clean, and tight and I gave her a few minutes of light DATY which made her squirm and moan a bit. Then I repositioned her so I was sitting on the pillow and she continued her BBBJ. It must have been at least 15-20 minutes of non-stop BBBJ and finally I finished in her mouth and, the most surprising thing for me, she kind of kept my cock in her mouth until I finished. Then she spit into the garbage can and spent the next few minutes rinsing with some mouthwash. She came back to bed then asked me if I wanted to fuck now. Ha ha…what a gal. I had to wait a couple more minutes before I was “ready” so I chatted a bit with her and explored her body a bit. Heavenly natural soft/firm body that only exists on young girls…then it was a good FS session with missionary, sidescrew, and me finishing in doggie and she was very compliant the whole time. Overall, the feeling with this gal is almost like being in high school with a young girlfriend who’s having accommodating sex with you because she loves you and not necessarily because she loves sex…ha ha, it might be a turn on for some guys. And anyway, as I said, she’s very accommodating which isn’t always the case with working gals. I gave her a 50 RMB tip and she seemed so surprised as to look at the money and act mute then smiled and put it in her pocket. I paid 298 at the front counter and left a happy guy.


Also, walking around downtown Zhuhai afterward, it seems like the police are stepping up their patrols and I saw more paddy-wagons than usual patrolling LHL as well as the surrounding streets. There were fewer SWs on LHL than usual, but you could some and there were still a steady stream approaching guys. I think it was more a combination of the cold weather keeping customers away from the open-air cafes rather than just the police patrols, though. And the huge Tian Di Ren Jia disco on LHL has been closed down and a working gal told me it was to reduce the visibility of the rampant drug use that goes on there but the place will reopen after CNY. What the hell policy is that?? Anyway, enjoy and stay safe out there…


J

One Wing Low
01-26-07, 16:01
Hi Johnny,

Sounds like you are having a good old time in Zhuhai. I envy you!

If you can, please post a list of saunas, including address, number and quality of girls, pricing etc...

Can't wait to go back to Zhuhai.


anyway, as I said, she’s very accommodating which isn’t always the case with working gals. I gave her a 50 RMB tip and she seemed so surprised as to look at the money and act mute then smiled and put it in her pocket. I paid 298 at the front counter and left a happy guy.

Also, walking around downtown Zhuhai afterward, it seems like the police are stepping up their patrols and I saw more paddy-wagons than usual patrolling LHL as well as the surrounding streets. There were fewer SWs on LHL than usual, but you could some and there were still a steady stream approaching guys. I think it was more a combination of the cold weather keeping customers away from the open-air cafes rather than just the police patrols, though. And the huge Tian Di Ren Jia disco on LHL has been closed down and
J

Dar425
01-28-07, 08:19
Hi Guys, This is my 1st ever non-poon post.

In China I learned "jui-dian' = hotel.

But before this I thought 'Fan-dian' is the correct Potunghua !??
Then, later I heard 'Lu-guan' is the correct word.

Can someone tell which is best used to say 'hotel' ?


Also, I know 'da jiu-dian' = 'grand hotel'.



Dar

Laowai123
01-28-07, 09:18
In China I learned "jui-dian' = hotel.

But before this I thought 'Fan-dian' is the correct Potunghua !??
Then, later I heard 'Lu-guan' is the correct word.

Can someone tell which is best used to say 'hotel' ?

Also, I know 'da jiu-dian' = 'grand hotel'.For hotel: Jiu3 Dian4, Da4 Jiu3 Dian4 (not only "Grand Hotels call themselves in this way); Jiu3 = Alcohol
For restaurant: Fan4 Dian4; Fan4 = Meal

Dian4 = Shop/Store

LW

Santa
01-28-07, 10:03
Hi Guys, This is my 1st ever non-poon post.

In China I learned "jui-dian' = hotel.

But before this I thought 'Fan-dian' is the correct Potunghua !??
Then, later I heard 'Lu-guan' is the correct word.

Can someone tell which is best used to say 'hotel' ?


Also, I know 'da jiu-dian' = 'grand hotel'.



Dar

This request belongs in the Words and Phrases thread. Luguan is used in the north and Jiudian is used in the south. Fandian is not used much as it literally means "food room".

Weelock
01-28-07, 10:25
OWL you are certainly not a newbie considering your membership status.

Surely you can do what I did and read the entire forum and compile your own list?!?

The best saunas are regularly reported on (incl. the information you request) and are household names on this forum.

One Wing Low,

There was a listing of about 15 Zhahai saunas around two years ago. It was taken ( transfered ) from another website by somebody. The website is call s ********. Sorry I forgot whom this person was. It had the names in Chinese and English, pricing for rooms, girls and recommendations. I tried looking for it but I can find it on ISG.

It seems for some reason the website's name is censored in ISG.

Bill Lee
01-28-07, 18:49
Links to Competing Forums

"I think this may come as a surprise to some members, but you cannot use my forum to promote competing forums. This inlcudes Delphi, Google, or Yahoo groups."

Bill


One Wing Low,

There was a listing of about 15 Zhahai saunas around two years ago. It was taken ( transfered ) from another website by somebody. The website is call s ********. Sorry I forgot whom this person was. It had the names in Chinese and English, pricing for rooms, girls and recommendations. I tried looking for it but I can find it on ISG.

It seems for some reason the website's name is censored in ISG.

Superforce99
01-29-07, 03:57
One Wing Low,

There was a listing of about 15 Zhahai saunas around two years ago. It was taken ( transfered ) from another website by somebody. The website is call s ********. Sorry I forgot whom this person was. It had the names in Chinese and English, pricing for rooms, girls and recommendations. I tried looking for it but I can find it on ISG.

It seems for some reason the website's name is censored in ISG.


Weee,

Wasn't there another list of 19 Zhahai saunas around three years ago, too?


J

Superforce99
01-29-07, 06:47
was getting late sunday night (yesterday) and i decided to test my luck and go back to fuhai suana and try sweetie #5 again. streets weren’t as crowded as i expected but it was somewhat cold and breezy plus there seemed to be more police than usual on the streets. not exactly a crackdown, but just increased pig patrols…onto the meat and potatoes...

**short report

went to fuhai sauna and did gal #5 again who gave even better service than the previous session. she’ll be leaving the sauna in 3-4 days, so sample the sweet folds of her feminine roast beef lips before it’s too late. discovered that okomoto came out with a new version of their 0.03 condoms called “0.03 rf” and the rf stands for “real fit.” basically, it means the condom’s tip is shaped like a real penis, ala a “mushroom head” shape instead of a long blunted cylinder like the majority of condoms. in back-to-back fuck sessions this weekend, i used the 0.03 and 0.03rf condoms and i think they are not much different, though the 0.03rf condoms somehow feel thinner than the original 0.03; it should be renamed 0.028rf or something. and a 10-pack of 0.03rf costs $98hkd vs. $78hkd for the 0.03. then a helpful taxi driver brought me to some remote area in xiangzhou district (not the usual gongbei district where lhl and most of the famous saunas are). quality was pretty damn good, comparable to lhl, with price from 100-150 rmb. it’s pretty far from gongbei, though so taxi fare to go there plus taxi fare to return plus taxi fare for the gal would cancel any savings vs. getting a lhl gal.


*****long report

it was getting near 11:30pm on sunday night and i got a hankerin’ for some young tight pussy…decided to head to fuhui sauna and plow sweetie #5 again. earlier in the weekend, i had picked up the newest condoms from okomoto and was eager to try them out, too. these new condoms are named “0.03 rf” with the rf standing for “real fit.” the condoms come in a gold-metallic colored box (as opposed to the original’s silver-metallic box) and when unrolled, is shaped like a natural penis, with a “mushroom head” at the tip for a better fit, allegedly. they also have a roomier fit and, oddly enough, seem even thinner than the originals. i had the opportunity to try out the regular 0.03 condoms just earlier in the day, so, it would be a great condom combat showdown.

must not have been too busy at the fuhai because i was shown a sauna room on the 4th floor this time, and the rooms are about 40-50% smaller than the rooms on the 5th floor. same pricing structure, though, with 298 rmb inclusive fee covering room and gal. sweetie #5 (forgot her name) peeked through the door and seemed happy to see me again. i just love that she has kind of a goofy unawareness of her sexiness, almost like cameron diaz in “there’s something about mary”. anyway, her long slim legs and tight bubble ass are definitely her best assets and her unusually short dress basically gives clear access to anyone with two eyes. we show and chat a bit and find out that things are not going to well for her. the electricity was shut off from 3pm -9:30pm in the entire hotel, robbing her lots of business. on top of that, she lives about 30 minutes from the sauna, so after coming to work for about an hour at 7pm, she went home, then was called back at about 9:45pm. and there were no customers for her until me. and she had decided to go back to fujian later this week because “zhuhai isn’t very fun”, which loosely translated means “i have fucking guys in saunas” and/or “i am not making enough money.” so, if you’re going to be zhuhai in the next few days, enjoy this cutie and treat her well.

like the last visit, we had a nice mutual shower but this time skipped the body wash routine. after drying off, we conversed for a few minutes about generalities before she suddenly started sucking my cock. it was funny, like:

“so, do you like football?”

“not really, but most guys who come here like to watch so i know a little bit about football.”

“manchester united is doing surprisingly well---“

“[no more talking, mouth sucking my cock]”

again, her service isn’t fantastic, it’s just rare to have this weird feeling like the first girlfriend who you have sex with (for me anyway). she doesn’t use any of the teas, milk, ice, etc. that is provided for the oral services. she just simply sucks and sucks and sucks, then sucks more, basically until you cim or you tell her to stop. i watched about 10 minutes of the soccer match while enjoying this feeling, knowing she wasn’t going to stop. didn’t want to cim so i stopped her and gave her some body kissing and light daty which she liked. when i took out the 0.03rf, her first reaction was to say, “wow, that’s thin. is it safe?” good fucking varying between slow grinding and piston pumping with a warm, intimate missionary embrace to finish. very nice and one of the reasons i could repeat with her every week on a regular basis. after a mutual shower, we rested on the bed and i fell asleep in her arms. overall opinion on the 0.03rf condoms is that they are thinner, bigger, and shaped better than the original 0.03, but the increased cost and negligible difference in performance makes 0.03 the clear winner.

i woke up, still in her arms, after about 10 minutes to see her watching the football on tv. she noticed i woke up and asked if i wanted any more. i asked her to give me another bbbj and she began with no hesitation. i switched to a face-straddling position and she was lightly pulling forward on my buttocks to face fuck her, which was great. after several minutes, i sat on the edge of the bed and she knelt down and continued with the bbbj. after about 5-6 minutes, i felt great and relaxed, but i was pretty sure i wouldn’t be able to come again, especially after too much fucking during the weekend, and earlier in the day, too. i had her stop and explained i was done and why. she seemed relieved to hear it wasn’t due to her bad service.

dressed and left after paying 298 at the counter. they are sloooooow to give you the 2 rmb change, and i jokingly made fun of the two cute front desk girls saying each “smart egg” deserved a 1 rmb tip. outside, i took a taxi home and after confirming i had just been in the fuhai sauna, he began discussing the general sauna situation in zhuhai with me. he says there are about 200 saunas in zh which sounds impossibly high. he also told me about a highly recommend sauna called the “shanghai- something” i forget. since he said the price was 998 all inclusive (which again sounds impossibly high) i don’t think i will try this one out anytime soon. then he convinced me to visit a cluster of bbss he promised were “excellent; the choice of macau and hk mongers”. after about 16rmb on top of my usual fare home, (i live about a 14 rmb taxi ride away from the border crossing in macau) we finally arrived at a short dead-end street with 5 bbss. i was skeptical at first and was about to cuss out the driver before seeing that the first few gals were pretty good looking. hmm…and a few were outside playing badminton or sitting and chatting. not as gloomy and zombie-like as many bbss i’ve seen. i got out, took a quick look around and confirmed that 150 or lower was the pricing. when i walked off, a few of the mamasans offered 130. if i didn’t just have a sauna experience, i’d definitely have picked a gal. the problem with this place is i’m not entirely sure how to get there. i’ll have to try to retract the taxi ride later this week. also, i’ve got the taxi guy’s number.

so, all in all, a good night where three birds where killed with 1 stone:

1. confirm that sweetie #5 would give good service on a repeat visit
2. test the new 0.03rf condoms
3. discovered new area for gals in zh


stay safe out there.


j


ps. on some other notes, i was shopping in zhuhai and noticed that there are many "sony" usb thumbdrives of up to 16 gb available now. the 16gb models were 190 rmb and the 8 gb models were 90 rmb, both with little/no bargaining. luckily, i had my laptop with me and tested them out. they seem to have the physical storage size of 8 or 16 gb, but damn, the transfer speeds are slow as shit. i tried transferring a 700 mb movie file to the 8 gb drive and the transfer window showed 14 minutes as the expected time....anyway, i guess it'll do as a cheap-ass form of mass storage for some. and i'm not saying everyone can get this price, but chiagra could/should be 8 rmb per bottle or less.

One Wing Low
01-29-07, 07:20
Hi Johnny,

You know a lot of girls in Zhuhai.

Please get pics and share with your bros.


Was getting late Sunday night (yesterday) and I decided to test my luck and go back to Fuhai Suana and try sweetie #5 again. Streets weren’t as crowded as I expected but it was somewhat cold and breezy plus there seemed to be more police than usual on the streets. Not exactly a crackdown, but just increased pig patrols…onto the meat and potatoes...

J

Superforce99
02-02-07, 04:50
Hi Johnny,

You know a lot of girls in Zhuhai.

Please get pics and share with your bros.


I love to share pics but my phone's camera is woefully pathetic and my digital camera is dearly departed...I'd be happy to accept donations for a new camera! The JK-Zhuhai Camera fund is open and ready for donations! PM me for details...

J

Superforce99
02-02-07, 04:54
*SHORT REPORT
Found a new cluster of BBS in an outlying district from Gongbei that is a good alternative (for me) to LHL but not totally sure about specific directions yet. SOP service, affordable prices, and most importantly, smokin' hot gals available. And Year 2000 Hotel sauna is overpriced and disappointing.


***LONG REPORT
Delivering a report about a new area (to me) in Zhuhai. Chatted up a young, slimy taxi driver about places for gals, basically the best kind of bastard to find out this kind of info from. He recommended all kinds of places new and familiar to me but mostly saunas. I asked him about BBSs and he started talking about some new places I’ve never heard of and pretty far from Gongbei but not too far from my apartment. Ended up going to this place that I’m still not sure of the exact location, but it is in the Xin Xiangzhou district. First landmark is the Vanguard supermarket. If you get to that, look for the Agricultural Bank down the block. The BBSs are around the end of the block where the bank is. That’s as specific as I can get since I haven’t gone back yet on my own. I’ll probably have better directions in a future report.

Now for the gals…they are OK, in my opinion about a notch below the average BBS girl from CP. For me, the average CP girl is about a 6.5 with the range from 3-8. At this Zhuhai BBS cluster, I rate the average gal a 5 with the range from 2-8. There are 5 different shops and the feeling is very similar to the dearly departed Ramada BBS in Guangzhou. Each shop had anywhere from 5-10 girls and a lot of them looked at Santa’s “laowai-ness” with curiosity, revulsion, fear, or a combination. Prices should be from 120-150 RMB I’m pretty sure, but with Santa in tow and the slimy taxi driver having hush-hush discussions with the mama/papasans, I was getting quotes from 200 ST – 800 LT, basically ridiculous.

The last shop on this BBS row had 5 girls and as soon as I saw them, I was doing back flips in my mind. I don’t think Santa really noticed, but I was more than turned on by every one of the gals in this particular BBS, which never happens. (That’s why I spent so much time talking about BS and just kind of stalling at this shop, Santa, ha ha…). So, this shop is the only one with a papas an, so I’ll refer to it as Papa’s BBS. Anyway, Santa didn’t want to pick anything up, even though one of the cutest gal started practicing her limited English trying to entice him. We left to go get some dinner and then he went for a few beers at the LHL umbrellas and I went home and got take out from this shop.

Called up the papasan and easily negotiated 150 RMB + taxi fee for delivery of the gal to my apartment. My tall cutie was waiting and took her to my place for shower and sex. The service was only OK, with no BJ and not very warm or sensual sex (though she was bubbly and friendly when conversing with me). But her body was so damn smokin’ hot it’s one of those rare situations where the visual delight makes the SOP sex worth it. I mean she was designed in the ISG lab of wet dreams: 19 years old, Hunan honey, 5’6, large magnificent 34 C or D breasts, long firm legs, springy bubble but, soft smooth white skin, innocent face with a touch of naughtiness…I mean, I was just looking at her and touching her for at least 15 minutes before she asked me if something was wrong, ha ha…

Anyway, I plan to go back and fuck every one of papa’s girls and I will be getting a camera sometime soon, so pics, I promise. Can you tell I’m excited, finally???

J


PS. I also went with Santa earlier in the night to the Year 2000 Hotel Sauna for a look. The facilities are pretty new and about the same or better than the upscale digs at the Chang An Good World sauna. The weird thing is that the price is 268 RMB for the VIP room + 300 RMB for the girl, so at 568 RMB, it’s the same price as the saunas in CP. The girl line up was nothing special, about the same as a budget sauna and there was maybe one I would have done, but with that price, I was expecting significantly higher quality vs. the 260-300 RMB saunas. There was an interesting “500 RMB model” worker who ended up just being a tall gal, maybe 5’10-5’11. She still wasn’t outstanding looking, just a solid 7 to me. There was also some meeting for a HK company that night, so it was pretty busy and that may have lead to a lack of quality gals but the dregs remaining were totally overpriced.

Santa
02-02-07, 05:38
Johnny and I visited those five new shops he discovered and there were some great looking girls there, not many, but enough. There were also some dogs.

The girl I wanted was in a shop owned by a young pimp. For some reason, I don't mind handing money to a mama, but I hate giving money to male pimps. I think selling pussy should be womens work. So I sadly declined.

Went back to Lian Hua Lu and saw a police van and very few working girls. But one plain clothed girl approached me while I was drinking beer. A cutie from Sichuan. I love Sichuan girls! When I got her to my room I was amazed to see I had another white tiger. I told Johnny about her and he of course had done her before, knew her name and age, etc. Hardly a girl in this town he hasn't fucked already! That's why we call him the King of Zhuhai.

Superforce99
02-02-07, 05:58
Oh, yeah, Santa reminded me...

For any current or future Zhuhai visitors, there seems to be a medium-intensity crackdown right now, so many KTVs and discos are closed and the LHL streetwalkers have been reduced to 5-10% of normal. There isn't a very heavy physical police presence, but the LE must have let it be known ahead of time to keep things quiet, so the pimps and girls are basically complying. About half the regular LHL gals I know have gone back to their hometown already but there are still many around because CNY is a good time for business, too. Let me know if any of you out there want numbers.

Yesterday was the first time I've ever walked down LHL and not seen double-digit SWs. Maybe 3-4 at the most. This was about 10:30pm so should have been nearing primetime (about 11:00pm - 2:00 am I consider primetime). Santa was on LHL during primetime and things didn't get much better. Even the BBSs near LHL are pretty low on numbers now.

The saunas are still the cheapest, safest option for a sure thing and are always available.

So, stay safe if you're in/coming to ZH...

J

One Wing Low
02-02-07, 06:27
Damn. Just when I am about to go to CHina too.

I dont like Saunas too much. I prefer to pick the meat on the streets.


Oh, yeah, Santa reminded me...
For any current or future Zhuhai visitors, there seems to be a medium-intensity crackdown right now, so many KTVs and discos are closed and the LHL streetwalkers have been reduced to 5-10% of normal. There isn't a very
So, stay safe if you're in/coming to ZH...

J

Santa
02-02-07, 10:01
There are still a few girls available on Lian Hua Lu. They don't walk along the middle of the road as before, they walk along the sidewalk near the Chang An Hotel. Best time is after midnight. They run away when they see the police.

This crackdown business is going to ruin this country. :(

Santa
02-02-07, 18:18
Went to the JIn Yu Sauna and the service was terrible. She was mostly interested in watching TV and having a nap. I had to turn the TV off 4 times. I could have gotten better service from a streetwalker.

I had a girl in this sauna three months ago and the service was great, so my expectations were high.

These girls have to do this shit all day, everyday. Easy to see how they become totally bored with this fucking job and avoid giving service when they can.

Loso69
02-02-07, 21:24
My sentiments exactly!


The girl I wanted was in a shop owned by a young pimp. For some reason, I don't mind handing money to a mama, but I hate giving money to male pimps. I think selling pussy should be womens work. So I sadly declined.

Chopsuey
02-03-07, 03:42
To my China friends and others that may be in the know. I love Zhuhai for many reasons although at times I wish it wouldn't be that boring. I hope to be there around the Chinese New Year. What is happening with the Sauna scene.

Has anybody had a recent experience at the Harbor View Hotel or the main buisness hotel down the street from the border crossing. I can't remeber the name for the moment, but if you cross the border from and go straight into Zhuihai walking a few blocks approximately six, you come to a main intersection where if you turn right, you end up at the bar street and the water. At that intersection is a cicular hotel, that's the one that I am referring to.

Of all my experiences in China, from that hotel in the Sauna, I met a lovely bauty who at the time was 19. I invited her to dinner with me and a friend and his fiance and that led to a wonderful encounter.

Cheers!

One Wing Low
02-04-07, 01:57
Johnny and the regulars at the BBS should train the girls so they willingly let us take some pics every time.

Loso, a laowai, was able to take pictures of every girl he boinked, so this task is possible.


*SHORT REPORT

Anyway, I plan to go back and fuck every one of papa’s girls and I will be getting a camera sometime soon, so pics, I promise. Can you tell I’m excited, finally???

Jthat night, so it was pretty busy and that may have lead to a lack of quality gals but the dregs remaining were totally overpriced.

One Wing Low
02-04-07, 11:01
Some have very beautiful bodies but would not let me take their pics naked, with or without face. What a waste.

Perhaps the bros, who can speak good Chinese, can start convincing the girls that we would do them no harms with the pics of their beautiful bods.


I take a few pics of every girl I have.
They never refuse me (although sometimes need a bit of convincing).

The difficulty is getting them to agree to naked pics (esp. with their face included).
The LHL girls are particularly resistant to this (and I can understand why, as most only go for ST then never see the guy again).
My best success has been with ZH Sauna girls, some are even happy to let you take pics during the act.

I realise some guys don't care about this, but occassionally you meet a girl with a body to die for.
My memory seems to get worse the older I get, so I do the best I can to shoot a bit of skin ;)

Santa
02-04-07, 11:39
I think these LHL girls are in the right place at the right time, therefore financial winners. I see them going and returning very quickly and, as far as I can tell, they get to keep the full 200.

They probably have lots of customers wanting pictures and they are not entertained by the idea. They are only interested in getting back to the street as quickly as possible.

Last night, at 3.00 am, I saw a whole bunch of girls on the corner near ChangAn Hotel. I think the reason I didn't see so many before was not because of the police, it was because the girls were already taken. Not enough girls to go around, and others have gone home for the holidays.There are lots of lonely guys drinking beer at the umbrella stands, mostly taiwanese.

I just came in from walking on LHL, 7:00 pm on a sunday. The street was fairly crowded but I only saw one working girl and I have already done her. I called a girl I met the night before and she came to my room. Slim pretty body and beautiful tits, but her service was terrible and she had a really bad attitude. It couldn't get any worse than this. Xiao Min, a small gal from Hunan.
This is a girl who hates her job and her customers.

Loso69
02-04-07, 16:08
I think these LHL girls are in the right place at the right time, therefore financial winners. I see them going and returning very quickly and, as far as I can tell, they get to keep the full 200.


The LHL girls do have mamasans, so I very much doubt that the whole 200RMB goes to them.

Loso

Mark Mason
02-05-07, 02:23
The LHL girls do have mamasans, so I very much doubt that the whole 200RMB goes to them.

Loso

According to girls that I have asked, the split is generally 100 for each. The mamasans also generally charge the girls for their keep, food, clothes and lodging. They also may be paying back the loan made to their families back in their hometown. So generally the girls do not get much of the money. Therefore, they are very happy with a tip of 10 or 20, which may be the only actual cash they have to spend.

Santa
02-05-07, 05:39
These girls are all streetwalkers and I have only seen one with a mama. They also seem to be having a fast turnover rate. Only standing around for ten minutes waiting for a trick, she goes with him and returns in only 30 or 40 minutes.

Right now I think there are fewer girls and more punters, so it's a sellers market.

Bossberry
02-05-07, 06:34
Some have very beautiful bodies but would not let me take their pics naked, with or without face. What a waste.

Perhaps the bros, who can speak good Chinese, can start convincing the girls that we would do them no harms with the pics of their beautiful bods.I think its pretty hard to convince them, most of them known they may be posted on the net, so most are scared to expose their face even their body.

Bossberry
02-05-07, 06:38
There are still a few girls available on Lian Hua Lu. They don't walk along the middle of the road as before, they walk along the sidewalk near the Chang An Hotel. Best time is after midnight. They run away when they see the police.

This crackdown business is going to ruin this country. :(Last time when at Zhu hai, while we are negotiating with a LHL girl, the police drove by, all she did was just acted naturally and holded my hand. The police will not give a hard time since they think your girl/boy friends.

Santa
02-05-07, 13:04
Noticed a lot more girls on LHL tonight, monday night, mostly around the McDonalds icecream shop. And a lot less guys. I guess the HK and Macau guys had to go home.

Just when I was about to write Zhuhai off as a waste of time, I meet Xiao Lian. Very pretty 19 year old from Hunan. On the way to the hotel a mama caught up with us and asked her the price.

Lovely body and good service. Friendly and smiling. During the service she tried to get me to go up on the price by 100rmb, but I calmly declined. I think this a common trick in this town. Start giving a really good body lick and blowjob, and then ask for extra money. If he declines, then continue the blowjob for only a minute or two. If he agrees to pay extra, then give him extra. Extortion!

These girls know how to work it.

Xiao Lian. 13824158222. 200rmb

Azn Playa
02-06-07, 13:03
Congrats to all ISG members who helped the ZH board reach 1000 posts.

An honourable mention goes to the 'King of Zhuhai' Mr. Johnnykon666 who has trailblazed so much of the action where others once feared to tread.

You have provided so much detail on Zhuhai that it can now be simply regarded as the hotpot of sun, sea and sex.

And yes its true Santa, if you give LHL girls an inch, they will take a mile!

Xin Nian Kuai Le!

Bill Lee
02-06-07, 14:59
At least not on LHL.

Don't think the police don't recognize a regular hooker on the street and you holding her hand will take their attention away. You may have seen this tout for the first time, but the police have seen her hundred times on LHL. Do you really think that the police think you're her boyfriend?

Perhaps, they may not want the hassle of dealing with a foriegner who is her customer or just didn't want to make arrest right then and there.

When the police does show up, the girls will most likely tell the truth to the police about the situation.

I would just walk away when the police are nearby and not speak with a tout.

Bill


Last time when at Zhu hai, while we are negotiating with a LHL girl, the police drove by, all she did was just acted naturally and holded my hand. The police will not give a hard time since they think your girl/boy friends.

Zincbreaker
02-07-07, 03:48
Does anyone ever spend time in Zhuhai during Chinese New Year. Is it all quiet or business as usual at LHL?

Weelock
02-07-07, 04:10
Last time when at Zhu hai, while we are negotiating with a LHL girl, the police drove by, all she did was just acted naturally and holded my hand. The police will not give a hard time since they think your girl/boy friends.

In the middle of LHL next to the green umbrella cafes, I noticed there are at least one "black security camera" above. I believe there are others. Therefore, I would assume the local security or police would know who is working the streets. From the cameras, the security or police would notice a girl talking and going from one guy to another. In general, they would know who is a "regular" SW on LHL. Your are correct, Bossberry, they most likely leave a boy/girl alone but it is impossible to say she is your girlfriend to the police because all the questions going to be asked and then the cameras.

When I was there, the girls would run in the middle of talking to a guy if a hint of police was coming. It really depends on the girl if she wants to run or not. I have seen the police van stop on LHL and chase down a few girls.
By the cafes, usually some run and some don't. A few sat right next to me when police was near. One time one took my drink and starting drinking from it. I think it was because we seen each other a few times. I then gave her a WTF look.

Weelock

AngrySnake
02-09-07, 09:09
guys they fake in the control panel, admin tools, computer managment , disk managment: look at the sony drives and you will see 8 gig allocated 120 gig unallocated. the memory is only 128mb but they hacked the usb interface to tell the computer it is more. if it is a real good deal on electronics .... it is fake.

ps. on some other notes, i was shopping in zhuhai and noticed that there are many "sony" usb thumbdrives of up to 16 gb available now. the 16gb models were 190 rmb and the 8 gb models were 90 rmb, both with little/no bargaining. luckily, i had my laptop with me and tested them out. they seem to have the physical storage size of 8 or 16 gb, but damn, the transfer speeds are slow as shit. i tried transferring a 700 mb movie file to the 8 gb drive and the transfer window showed 14 minutes as the expected time....anyway, i guess it'll do as a cheap-ass form of mass storage for some. and i'm not saying everyone can get this price, but chiagra could/should be 8 rmb per bottle or less.[/quote]

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hi angrysnake,

it appears that you inadverently forgot to correctly place the quote tags in this report. usually i can fix this sort of thing before it's displayed, but i don't have a clue as to how you intended this report to appear.

the quote tags are simple to use, all you have to do is look for them in the text. anything that you want to appear in quotes must start with "[quote]" and end with "[/quote ]". it's that simple.

in addition, you can preview your report before it's posted, so it's easy to check if you got it right before it's displayed in the forum.

thanks,

jackson