South China - Zhu Hai

[RasSpewtin]

AG:

Hey, don't get me wrong. I was not diss'ing you, just agreeing to disagree...to some extent. The key is, whatever works for a guy is what works for him, whatever the method.

But that being said, I honestly do regret that some guys drop tips wherever they go, and thus re-create the economic reality in that country for the rest of us foreigners. But hey, if you wanna tip you're gonna do it.

And you know, just today there was this shy and gorgeous hostess in a dim sum restaurant in Zhuahi who was flirting with me. She asked for my number, with the pretense being her needing English lessons. When she brought the bill, I actually lost my mind due to infatuation and tried to tip her 10 RMB for a 80 RMB bill. And she wouldn't take it. Awe shucks...I guess I got rejected.

Raz


Here's a Tip:
How do you think I get all these Waitresses or Hotel staff as "freebies"?
Think about it........ :D
Enjoy!
AG

[ABCinLA]

I was walking down the middle of the road where the outside bar stands are and saw plenty of SWs got approached 4 times. Even though its pouring rain its almost close to old times IMHO. It does appear better if one is walking versus sitting down at one of those outside bars. But you guys are making me feel bad I had a shoe repaired by a street worker for 5 rmb but gave him 6.5 rmb. Oh back to the main topic most of the girls appear new from my last visit in 1/07.

[Santa]

So why tip the Xiaojies?I agree. Why? The price has already been agreed to. I will only give her the taxi fare back to where I found her. If her attitude and service was really bad I let her pay her own fare home. If her service was good I will recommend her to others.

[Ace Gallant]

I wouldn't call that a tip, it's more like a down-payment :D

A tip is when you have already gotten what you wanted, at the price you agreed to, and then pay extra.

You are partially right, second part only.

Example;

Part 1: I ate at the restaurant, I got good service from the waitress, and I gave her a generous tip. I walk out creating opportunity for my second visit.

Part 2: When I walk in to the same restaurant again, I am sure I get special smile, her cell# and a date after work. During the date I fucked her for free.

Essentially, in part 1, I did get a good service from her as a waitress (which is the fact that I gotten what I wanted anyways), so I tipped her. But in part 2, she returned me with her body. So the conclusion was; a little tip could open the door to a great opportunity.

Most of the time, it not only open the door, it opens her legs! Sometimes, I can even get a date on first go without visiting the restaurant again.

Enjoy!
AG

[ABCinLA]

To make sure it was the right place I had the guy at the internet cafe copy the business card previously posted by Johnnykon666 (Jiang Nan Sauna). It really is pretty far away 25 to 30 rmb taxi ride each way. Definitely an unimpressive line up or they figured they'll give me what nobody else wants but after some effort managed to get a "6". Its a great place for a very detailed protocol session which includes alot of stuff I see in Japanese porn videos so not bad for 238 rmb but if one includes the cab right from the border its like 300. The place next door to the Chang An Good World is a much better deal at 298 as one might get an "8" with most of the stuff. While GAGW is 100 rmb more its only for the first session as you'll leave with a 50 rmb discount coupon for your next trip.

[Member #2001]

I went down there the last few days. Its changed since the first time I went down there. There are no more girls running every 5 minutes there at the end of the green tent bars. Now they all approach you while sitting at the bar and hand out their phone numbers. Some of them just keep walking by because I am a lawoi.

Last night I was on the hunt on LHL. I had a few beers and wanted to checkout a BBS that I ran across last week. I think it was closed, because I did not see it. It was kind of disappointing. Then I took a stroll down by the jaing an hotel (I think it’s called) and saw a bunch of SWs there but I did not bite. I also took a stroll on those side streets or alleyways. I am not exactly sure how you would call them here. Anyway I did see one sw that was there but she wanted 500 RMB WTF? She would be lucky go get 50 from anyone else.

So anyway after a disappointing night on the LHL I thought I would try a spot that is on ninxi road. I really don’t like going there to hunt for pussy, but just like to watch the girls and see how they act. Well anyway, I found a girl that did not look bad in the dark, LOL and did not speak any English except fuck and suck.

Well I took her to my apartment which was about a 10 minute walk for me. Maybe its 15 minute walk for Chinese because I have longer legs then Cantonese. And about 4 minutes into the walk she was complaining about how far it was. Yea right and bla, bla bla. Anyway we got up to my apartment and then she wanted me to pay upfront, wrong!! I told after and pointed to the word in the dictionary. I mean really this girl could not even understand written English. So ok and we take off our clothes. WOW. ! I am thinking where has this girl been with all those cigarette burns. She must have had about 10 burn marks on her body. Not only that she would not suck like she said and only would do one position. I could also see the look of disgust or anger at the whole process. So what I did not care about her dissatisfaction with the encounter. I am not usually so cold, but when I see that the SW changes her attitude once we take off our clothes then my attitude also changes. Ok so just for her attitude I stick it in and bang away to quote lucky left on another board "jackhammer style". This girl was also extremely dry. One of the driest SWs I have ever done. Her faults not mine. Anyway it showed on her face because I could see that she was not enjoying it. I did not really care with her attitude.

Ok so after we finish up she wanted more money. I am thinking this girl really has a lot of nerve. She went though my pants pocked and found nothing, lol. When she was in the toilet I stashed some money away expecting exactly this type of response from the girl. So she left disappointed that she could not scam more money out of me and I showed her to the door and that was it.

I will still be looking for another BBS while I am here, because I want to try one. That one I say near LHL was interesting and maybe I will go back there to see if its open, but I still like to see what else is available for me in this town.

Peace out

[Superforce99]

ABCinLA,

Sorry you didn't have as good a time as I usually do. Actually, if you had contacted me sometime this week, I would have actually recommended you NOT go to that sauna anymore. Since the last time I posted about it, Jiang Nan had half it's girls quit over salary problems and management issues. Even my favorite gal left and went back to her hometown, too. Overall, it's become a mess of it's former self. Also, as I wrote in my original post, it is NOT worth a taxi ride all the way there if you are staying in Gongbei (as 99% of visiting mongers usually are) but I happen to live/work close by.

I was going to post an update, but it slipped my mind. Seems like everytime I look at the board, 99% of the posts are mindless fluff between buddies and/or written masterbation so you can understand why I lack the drive to post stuff recently, though I assure you Zhuhai is still hopping with action in the P4P, sauna, freebie, and every scene in between.


Blkdragon,

The problem with a sauna list is that it's almost obsolete as soon as it's made. Off the top of my head, I'll say my 5 favorite places are:

5. New Chang An oil massage (138 rmb may/may not include HJ)
4. Chang An Good World Sauna (338 RMB, upper mid-tier price range and good value)
3. Shan Hai Sauna (348 RMB, upper mid-tier price range and good value)
2. Jun Hao Sauna (548 RMB, upper tier price range but good)
1. Da Ming Yuan (230-260 RMB, unbeatable value though quality varies a lot)

You ask me again next week and I'm sure the list will be different. Actually, these are just places that I would go for "professional service" but in the past few weeks, a variety of different types of gals (steady gals, factory gals, newly arrived SW gals, off-LHL gals, friends of LHL gals, etc.) have taken up most of my time and sperm. I'm glad to introduce others to this, but I'm not going to post up any specific info because I've gotten burned in the past doing this.

Enjoy all ZH has to offer...

J

[Lex Moon]

Hahaha - yeah maybe in your dreams 'Fabio'.

You don't - try telling the truth for once.

{Here's a Tip:

Post Zhu Hai specific comments here, otherwise stop cluttering the Zhu Hai board with erroneous/factless information.}I have used the same approach before AG mentioned it here.

So it really works and not a dream.

Probably not just the tips but a person's personality & look applies here too.

I am sure freebies prefer fun loving and good looking guys.

[Blkdragon]

Johnnykon666, for the sauna listing. I understand w/ you being 'burned' in the past.

You mention in an earlier post that you were going to check out Zhongshan. Do you have any P4P recomendations for that city? The info I have picked up on this board is limited for ZS. Info being SW near the International Hotel and sauna at XS hotel opposite side of the street.

Just a little background info that will relate to the above question. I will be with a group of 3 total and are going to meet up with a guy who is from Zhongshan. I don't personally know this guy; he is my friend's acquaintance. This ZS guy is in his 50's while I am 37. I don't know at this point how good his P4P knowledge is. I like to have as much P4P info as possible before hand and from different sources since my time in China will be limited. In trade I'll send you names of establishments/pricing in ZS that were good and a Macau lady hotel which had good quality with a reasonably clean room. Local rate being 200 MOP/HK-30 min. I am sending an email to you right now.

Laters dude

[Ace Gallant]

I have used the same approach before AG mentioned it here.

So it really works and not a dream.

Probably not just the tips but a person's personality & look applies here too.

I am sure freebies prefer fun loving and good looking guys.

I only agree with you partially, Personality is important but I think looks is not one of the most important. I, myself is not good looking and I know several of those in met from ISG aren't that good looking too. I can summarize the following:

Tips: Shows how generous the person is, also tells the girls that you are a potential target. Of course target of what??… I am sure you guys are experience enough to tell. A generous tip also indirectly means the thickness of his wallet. Although it might not be entirely true.

Personality: Shows the girls how approachable you are and how well can you treat them. Of course they do not want to end up sleeping with a man that might beat them up or ill treat them!

Humorous: Girls love guys that are humorous, it show that this guy is entertaining and nice to hang around with. Likely they will not get bored with a person who is humorous.

Looks: Only certain girls would fall for the looks, especially those in the younger range. But the guys have to be exceptionally good looking in order use it as a tool to get freebie.

Dressing and things that you carry and use: The way you dress and the thing you use (example; Cell phone) also plays a part in the magnetism on the girls. IMHO: All girls are materialistic. Using Real Branded products, expensive product is a show of status and thus your first step of making into their list of potential persons they are willing to sleep with.

The company you are with: Although a lot of people did not notice this point, but it is very important point. The people you hang around with play a part in the attraction on the girls. Try hanging around with a person who is suspicious looking and act like he is an undercover cop and see what happens???? 

Your facial expression; some girls reads you like a book! Especially the pros! They know whether you are hunting, desperate, windows shopping or already taken. Try to stay away from the first two or your chance of freebie is reduced. Even it is a pro you are talking about, your chances of getting a good price is reduce if you are on hunting and desperate mode.

Of course there are many other factors but these are basically the few main ones.

Happy Hunting and Enjoy!
AG

BTW: I've learnt how to ignore kids on this board who does not even knows how to get laid and launch personal attacks on members. Just wait for them to grow up and they will understand.

[Ace Gallant]

Dr. T,

Considering the post you are referring to is more than 2 years old your input is somewhat outdated. But I am happy to report that I am alive and quite healthy. Thanks!

AG,

Considering the thousands of freebies who fall for you based on your charm and good looks you should be a bit more concerned about your own health!! hehe

Thanks but Charms maybe.... looks ??? Never!

Of course Health is the most important factor!

Enjoy!
AG

[Tile Man4]

Dr. T,

Considering the post you are referring to is more than 2 years old your input is somewhat outdated. But I am happy to report that I am alive and quite healthy. Thanks!

AG,

Considering the thousands of freebies who fall for you based on your charm and good looks you should be a bit more concerned about your own health!! heheYes Ramsey , this was an old Forum of yours , But ACE or OldAsiaMan keep telling me to RTFF hehe. There is a lot to learn here. So I do read when I have time.

We all need to be careful , no matter where we play. My life is a gamble , my business is a gamble. There are no risk in life if we take no risk. Life is boring without risk.

You all be safe and good luck Its nice to know that your still alive.

Tile man

[Ace Gallant]

Yes Ramsey , this was an old Forum of yours , But ACE or OldAsiaMan keep telling me to RTFF hehe. There is a lot to learn here. So I do read when I have time.

We all need to be careful , no matter where we play. My life is a gamble , my business is a gamble. There are no risk in life if we take no risk. Life is boring without risk.

You all be safe and good luck Its nice to know that your still alive.

Tile man

He is Old Asia Hand! Not Old Asia Man! Give this super senior some respect by naming him correctly will you? RTFF and you wouldn't got it wrong!

:D :D :D

Just poking around with you..... hahahaha

Enjoy!
AG

[Zhuhaifan]

I was on LHL this afternoon. Looked around a bit and saw a single SW making her rounds. Since I was desperate I tried to walk by her to get her attention. She just completely ignored me. Tried a few more times and everytime she approached other men besides me. Tried smiling at her, giving her the 'look', etc. I was almost desperate enough to just go up and talk to her, but that would be so pathetic I would probably die from shame. Sigh and there were no other SWs in sight for hours on end. When will LHL ever get better?

[One Wing Low]

I had sex on first dates many times with American girls. They are easy to convince. They are also very passionate in bed, not shy of asking for what they want.

Chinese girls are a lot more prudish. If you look like a good target, they even play harder, aiming for full-blown marriage etc...not just casual sex.

Last 2 times I was in SZ, I took a girl to lunch then back to my hotel. I got as far as kissing her, squeezing her boobs, rubbing her crotch...but was unable to take her panties off... And she was only average looking. Fuck it. Needless to say, I never return her phone calls or email again. I dont stay long enough in China for these non-pro's to be worth the time and effort.

I had 2 girls, recent Beijing U graduate on my arms, taking me to dinner, cruising SZ and show etc...We had a great time together, but none of them would hit the sack with me. Both of them were sad that they dont have BF. These girls should realize that they would never have a BF if they are sexless. Someone ( like AG!) should start educating Chinese girls that they would never be able to start serious relationships with anyone by witholding sex. In fact I nominate AG as CHina's new Minister of Education where sex will be the main subject with lots of lab works and home works.

When in China for business, I would skip the dining and entertaining by female hostesses where I know I would be stuck without a sex partner and big blue balls. I would head straight for the abundant KTV's where drinking and carousing with the girls are a lot more real and fun than the thick bull shit put up by so-called good girls. Some of the KTV girls are very pretty, classy, sweet and sincere. I would rather have them as friends than the bull shit 'good girls.' They would probably fuck like rabbits every night but still claim to be virgins hoping to dupe someone into marrying them!

You 've lost your war once you live with or marrying any girls. Just borrowing or renting them for as long as you can.

[Tile Man4]

I had sex on first dates many times with American girls. They are easy to convince. They are also very passionate in bed, not shy of asking for what they want.

Chinese girls are a lot more prudish. If you look like a good target, they even play harder, aiming for full-blown marriage etc...not just casual sex.

Last 2 times I was in SZ, I took a girl to lunch then back to my hotel. I got as far as kissing her, squeezing her boobs, rubbing her crotch...but was unable to take her panties off... And she was only average looking. Fuck it. Needless to say, I never return her phone calls or email again. I dont stay long enough in China for these non-pro's to be worth the time and effort.

I had 2 girls, recent Beijing U graduate on my arms, taking me to dinner, cruising SZ and show etc...We had a great time together, but none of them would hit the sack with me. Both of them were sad that they dont have BF. These girls should realize that they would never have a BF if they are sexless. Someone ( like AG!) should start educating Chinese girls that they would never be able to start serious relationships with anyone by witholding sex. In fact I nominate AG as CHina's new Minister of Sex Education.

When in China for business, I would skip the dining and entertaining by female hostesses where I know I would be stuck without a sex partner and big blue balls. I would head straight for the abundant KTV's where drinking and carousing with the girls are a lot more real and fun than the thick bull shit put up by so-called good girls. Some of the KTV girls are very pretty, classy, sweet and sincere. I would rather have them as friends than the bull shit 'good girls.' They would probably fuck like rabbits every night but still claim to be virgins hoping to dupe someone into marrying them!

You 've lost your war once you live with or marrying any girls. Just borrowing or renting them for as long as you can.Lie to them, the same way they lie. Tell them you will marry them. Tell them you love them. Chinese woman will say "I love you" on first email, first date, first fuck. Trust me they all lie

The minute she put you on an airplane back to your country, she is off with another one (Chinese or Foreign).

Oh and I must say MOST women, not all are like this. But, you must learn to play the game.

Good luck,

Tile man

[Tile Man4]

I only agree with you partially, Personality is important but I think looks is not one of the most important. I, myself is not good looking and I know several of those in met from ISG aren't that good looking too. I can summarize the following:

Tips: Shows how generous the person is, also tells the girls that you are a potential target. Of course target of what??… I am sure you guys are experience enough to tell. A generous tip also indirectly means the thickness of his wallet. Although it might not be entirely true.

Personality: Shows the girls how approachable you are and how well can you treat them. Of course they do not want to end up sleeping with a man that might beat them up or ill treat them!

Humorous: Girls love guys that are humorous, it show that this guy is entertaining and nice to hang around with. Likely they will not get bored with a person who is humorous.

Looks: Only certain girls would fall for the looks, especially those in the younger range. But the guys have to be exceptionally good looking in order use it as a tool to get freebie.

Dressing and things that you carry and use: The way you dress and the thing you use (example; Cell phone) also plays a part in the magnetism on the girls. IMHO: All girls are materialistic. Using Real Branded products, expensive product is a show of status and thus your first step of making into their list of potential persons they are willing to sleep with.

The company you are with: Although a lot of people did not notice this point, but it is very important point. The people you hang around with play a part in the attraction on the girls. Try hanging around with a person who is suspicious looking and act like he is an undercover cop and see what happens???? 

Your facial expression; some girls reads you like a book! Especially the pros! They know whether you are hunting, desperate, windows shopping or already taken. Try to stay away from the first two or your chance of freebie is reduced. Even it is a pro you are talking about, your chances of getting a good price is reduce if you are on hunting and desperate mode.

Of course there are many other factors but these are basically the few main ones.

Happy Hunting and Enjoy!
AG

BTW: I've learnt how to ignore kids on this board who does not even knows how to get laid and launch personal attacks on members. Just wait for them to grow up and they will understand.Ace is right on this one. I don't need to kiss Ace's ass, because if I think he is wrong I will say so. I have said 3 or 4 times in this forum. You must learn about giving FACE in China. This is why these woman are the most materialistic women in the world.

My ex Chinese GF told me that she needed a BEAUTIFUL new cell phone. Even a beautiful cell phone will give a woman face. Good looks of a man mean nothing for most Chinese women.

If you really want to score in China, study "giving face" and "losing face" in China and maybe all of Asia. This is not easy for western men to understand.

Be careful, many women want you to give them face but many will not give you the same respect. I find that 70% of Chinese women and 99% of Chinese men. Don't know the difference between their own culture and morals and values.

I will give you one good example. A single Chinese woman who is (bao ernai) second wife to a married man does not think she is a WG. Most Bao ernai will put down a street walker or KTV girl.

In the USA we say "A spade is a spade". No fucking exceptions.

Try to learn the culture of Asia and use it. You will get what you want.

Happy FACE to you all.

Tile man

[One Wing Low]

I know lying to them would be easier to get them in bed. However, I can pay 1000RMB and pick a pretty and willing bed partner in the KTV's. I would rather pay than wasting time with the all the bull shit other girls put up.

As long as they are sincere and honest with me, the KTV girls are no less respectable to me than any other girls. I would rather hang out with them than the bitches who withhold sex to play respectable.

In that sense, I prefer American girls who are very straight about the fact that they want sex as much as I do and not pretend they dont need it. If a girl would not give me sex freely soon after we go out, I assume I will get shit out of them in the long term, therefore I would just drop them.

I would buy but would not beg for sex.


Lie to them, the same way they lie. Tell them you will marry them. Tell them you love them. Chinese woman will say "I love you" on first email, first date, first fuck. Trust me they all lie

The minute she put you on an airplane back to your country, she is off with another one (Chinese or Foreign).

Oh and I must say MOST women, not all are like this. But, you must learn to play the game.

Good luck,

Tile man

[Tiger 888]

I know lying to them would be easier to get them in bed. However, I can pay 1000RMB and pick a pretty and willing bed partner in the KTV's. I would rather pay than wasting time with the all the bull shit other girls put up.

As long as they are sincere and honest with me, the KTV girls are no less respectable to me than any other girls. I would rather hang out with them than the bitches who withhold sex to play respectable.

In that sense, I prefer American girls who are very straight about the fact that they want sex as much as I do and not pretend they dont need it. If a girl would not give me sex freely soon after we go out, I assume I will get shit out of them in the long term, therefore I would just drop them.

I would buy but would not beg for sex.In addition to that, when you start lying you always have to remember what lies you told where. Takes way too much effort besides putting youself down to that level.

[Tile Man4]

In addition to that, when you start lying you always have to remember what lies you told where. Takes way too much effort besides putting youself down to that level.We don't need to lie to a Ktv worker, this I know. But One Wing Low was lied to about the price of 1000. I don't know what city he was in, but in many cities he could have had 2 or 3 women that night and his 1000.

OWL is just driving the price up for all of us. But, this is his business, not mine or any other monger on this site. If the next morning, OWL was asked to go shoping with ktv worker. Do you think she used her 1000 to shop? No fucking way. It just goes on and on with many of these WG's and non WG's.

If you read between the lines of OWL. He is getting pissed of being used. Same as me when I was in China. So, sometimes we do need to stoop to their level. I have said before. Anyone fuck over me, I will return the favor.

They all just laugh at many of us western men. I bet my two balls that they don't laugh at OldAsiaHand or Ace anymore. They both may not admit it, but I am sure they had their "fuck over" days when they were younger.

I am the most generous man in the world, but don't fucking steal from me. Just ask me for the money and I will give. I a sure that OAH and Ace will relpy to this forum and teach all of us the way to do business in China.

It took me 4 trips to China to learn and I am sure that I will still fuck up on number 5 trip.

I wish you and One Wing Low the best.

Tile man

[OldAsiaHand]

Tile man,

It is obvious that you have been fucked over by a Chinese girl and feel alot of resentment about it.

I also think it is not fair to lie to the girls. I may not tell them everything about myself at first, but if they ask me something, I usually answer truthfully. Yes, you will lose a lot of opportunities this way, but you will save a lot of hassle later.

I did a freebie in SZ once that had a great attitude about this. When it came to the subject of our personal lives, she preferred to leave the subject untouched. I never asked her and she never asked me. I did her a few times and we both moved on.

Just my POV.

OAH aka Old Asia Hand!



Lie to them, the same way they lie. Tell them you will marry them. Tell them you love them. Chinese woman will say "I love you" on first email, first date, first fuck. Trust me they all lie

The minute she put you on an airplane back to your country, she is off with another one (Chinese or Foreign).

Oh and I must say MOST women, not all are like this. But, you must learn to play the game.

Good luck,

Tile man

[Hk Dog]

I agree. Why lie to a girl? I am always upfront and never make promises. Of course you lose out on some but at least the ones that stay know the score and the relationship is much better.

Whats the point of lying? To me that shows alot of insecurity in the man and no character. I have found the hotter the girl is the more they know the bullshitters. I have bagged many a freebie stunner by telling them the truth such as I have a gf etc. Sometimes it is a relief to them not having some loser saying they love them every 10 seconds.

[Fast Eddie 48]

After spending 3 days mongering in CP with Bill Lee, Santa and Rising Son, it was hard to leave but after spending my first night in Dai Ming Low with the speical 160 rmb service with a 15 min AR and a 15 min BBBJ.

I am going back to Ming Hao Sauna tonight and stay overnight in the VIP Room for only 298 rmb all inclusive, large round bed with mirror on the ceiing, large tv, very nice room. I was there last night pock Wong Mei from Guangxi, a tall young girl with dragon tatoo on her back, very fun girl. They offer table shower and body to body massage Thai style for 1hr 30 min ar and BBBJ. The girl here is younger and much better looking than in Dai Ming Low. I guess you get what you paid for.

Ming Hau Sauna 2nd floor, transportation, hotel, new managment, open 2 month ago behind the Gongbei Bus stations. 298 rmb VIP Room. You can stay over night after 12mid night. Phone 86 8884474.

Fast eddie 48

[Superforce99]

fast eddie,

thank you, thank you for a post that actually contained information...about zhuhai, even!

in my effort to try to keep the momentum going, here's some more info:

for the da ming yuan (referred to mostly as "dmy") the management has wisely decided to try and make the service more consistent by making the girls show all the customers a "service list" before they begin the proceedures. basically, it is a laminated card showing the 21-steps of services they will be performing on different parts of your body from head to back to ass to cock. so, even for newbies going to dmy it's as simple as asking the girl for the card (they should give it to you to check out before beginning, but if these gals can get away from not doing it, then...) and then pointing to each one before or after she does it. if she doesn't do something, you can pretend to take the card to ask the manager or something, ha...

dmy made this change about a month or two ago i think and the service is dramatically more consistent. gal #105 is an older, mid-20s gal from harbin, but goddamn, she tongue-[CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) your asshole, vaccums sucks your dick, and vaginally clenches your cock like she means business. anyway, just choose a pretty gal you're attracted to and roll the dice. the service is more consistent now and with happy hour prices at 160 rmb for a shower-less room for 90 minutes and two pops (228 for vip room)...that has to be the best deal in all of china.

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for an update on lhl, the girls are back in a limited capacity and it's hard to say specifically when they are around, but just take a walk down lhl around the 8pm-11pm period and make intense eye contact with any gal you're really interested in. they do not approach you as aggressively as before. a few approached me only because i fucked them before, but in general, it is a very cautious scene. if you're in zhuhai, i still have about a dozen lhl gal numbers that work, so let me know.

***

walking around the lhl bbss located parallel and besides lhl (different from the non-gongbei bbs i've mentioned), i discovered that they are 130 rmb, not 150 rmb, so keep that in mind when paying. also, zhuhai bbss are much more firm on applying a "laowai surchage" making bbs takeout prices 150-200 rmb st (even got 300 rmb st quoted for a white buddy). many of them really don't see laowai customers, ever, and the girls actually demand more money from the mamasan for doing such customers. also, if you live more than a few minutes away from the bbs, there will usually be an additional charge.

oh, yeah, that reminds me, after talking to a few bbs gals, i realize that the majority of them learn "sex skills" by watching western porno with a very small amount of practice on real guys before actually becoming pros. hence, in their minds, all foreigners (ie. black or white guys) have huge cocks, have long stamina, and want cim/cof/anal...that's where their fear comes from. ha ha ha....just listening to these delightfully ignorant young gals air their thoughts regarding foreigners (ie. porn stars in the flesh) was hilarious. another funny thing was listening to them describe that most chinese bbs customers last 2-3 minutes total pumping time (!) and so an attractive gal can have 7-10 customers a day (!!). i guess it's not too bad having to fuck that many guys a day since it's quick, but if you suddenly start putting non-chinese customers who last more than 2-3 minutes and are more demanding into that mix, you can see why the gals feel the way they do...


j

[Fast Eddie 48]

fast eddie,

thank you, thank you for a post that actually contained information...about zhuhai, even!

in my effort to try to keep the momentum going, here's some more info:

for the da ming yuan (referred to mostly as "dmy") the management has wisely decided to try and make the service more consistent by making the girls show all the customers a "service list" before they begin the proceedures. basically, it is a laminated card showing the 21-steps of services they will be performing on different parts of your body from head to back to ass to cock. so, even for newbies going to dmy it's as simple as asking the girl for the card (they should give it to you to check out before beginning, but if these gals can get away from not doing it, then...) and then pointing to each one before or after she does it. if she doesn't do something, you can pretend to take the card to ask the manager or something, ha...

dmy made this change about a month or two ago i think and the service is dramatically more consistent. gal #105 is an older, mid-20s gal from harbin, but goddamn, she tongue-[CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) your asshole, vaccums sucks your dick, and vaginally clenches your cock like she means business. anyway, just choose a pretty gal you're attracted to and roll the dice. the service is more consistent now and with happy hour prices at 160 rmb for a shower-less room for 90 minutes and two pops (228 for vip room)...that has to be the best deal in all of china.

****

for an update on lhl, the girls are back in a limited capacity and it's hard to say specifically when they are around, but just take a walk down lhl around the 8pm-11pm period and make intense eye contact with any gal you're really interested in. they do not approach you as aggressively as before. a few approached me only because i fucked them before, but in general, it is a very cautious scene. if you're in zhuhai, i still have about a dozen lhl gal numbers that work, so let me know.

***

walking around the lhl bbss located parallel and besides lhl (different from the non-gongbei bbs i've mentioned), i discovered that they are 130 rmb, not 150 rmb, so keep that in mind when paying. also, zhuhai bbss are much more firm on applying a "laowai surchage" making bbs takeout prices 150-200 rmb st (even got 300 rmb st quoted for a white buddy). many of them really don't see laowai customers, ever, and the girls actually demand more money from the mamasan for doing such customers. also, if you live more than a few minutes away from the bbs, there will usually be an additional charge.

oh, yeah, that reminds me, after talking to a few bbs gals, i realize that the majority of them learn "sex skills" by watching western porno with a very small amount of practice on real guys before actually becoming pros. hence, in their minds, all foreigners (ie. black or white guys) have huge cocks, have long stamina, and want cim/cof/anal...that's where their fear comes from. ha ha ha....just listening to these delightfully ignorant young gals air their thoughts regarding foreigners (ie. porn stars in the flesh) was hilarious. another funny thing was listening to them describe that most chinese bbs customers last 2-3 minutes total pumping time (!) and so an attractive gal can have 7-10 customers a day (!!). i guess it's not too bad having to fuck that many guys a day since it's quick, but if you suddenly start putting non-chinese customers who last more than 2-3 minutes and are more demanding into that mix, you can see why the gals feel the way they do.

jto johnny,

dmy is a value sauna. the girl that i got is old, early thirty, but she is the best looking one after i saw about 10 girls. alot of make up but ar is great. she told me dmy service average about 300 customer a day so this a volume place. if you don't care about look just service dmy is the best. if you like younger girl, go to ming hao and changan new world, but my favorite is still dragon union sauna for look and red rope service. tost is 348 rmb with 2 shots and 2 hr. the only problem is that it's 20 min away from gongbei.

another sauna i heard is very good is changan holiday. it just opened. my hk friend told me cost is 428 rmb and the girl there is hot. no time to try and it is far away from gongbei.

fast eddie 48

[RasSpewtin]

Just a quick update on a current favorite sauna of mine. I am talking about the place next to the Jusco. Those of you who come to Zhuhai, or plan to come to Zhuhai, probably know the one that I mean.

My buddy and I saw two lineups last night, consisting of a total of 8 girls. At least half were easily doable, and one particular young lovely from Guangxi really caught my eye. She was an easy 8.5 to 9 in looks. A very pretty face, 36D-24-34, and only downgraded a little because her ass was not solid enough to split almonds. A minor flaw, I admit.

The standard routine here is generally one hour of “massage” and show, and only 30 minutes of whoopy. I hinted early on that I was there for some participatory fun, and was not that interested in the red ropes and hanging from the ceiling stuff this time. She was more than compliant, and in no time we were singing in the shower and getting ready for some good clean fun.

This girl was so gorgeous that I just had to DATY her. Yup, I just had to. She gave me a longer-than-usual BBBJ, and it was good, for maybe 10 minutes or so. She then asked what I wanted next, which is a nice touch for a control freak like me. So I spun her around while still lying on my back, and DATY’ed the heck out of her while she did a wonderful job of playing flute. After my neck got tired of the strain, and rolled her onto her back and continued the much session for another 15 minutes. She loved it, and so did I.
After that it was another 3 or 4 positions of whoopy. It was a joy to see her pretty face and beautiful bouncing boobs while I lifted her legs up and pumped her while on my knees, ala the Japanese porno flicks. What a sight! I tipped this one 50RMB (yes AG, I broke my rule). A little rare for me, but she was exactly what I needed.

A note to all that this place will be raising their rates from 300 to 390 RMB after June 8. I kinda thought that the 300 deal was too good to be true for the quality of the lineups, so I view that as an introductory special that I was lucky enough to capitalize on twice.

Raz

[Tanky]

Thanks for this info,

I went to find this place, as soon as Iread your post.

I tried #12, good fun, and yes you are right about they are much better than DMY.

$298? Somehow I paid $348, but then again it's worth it.

Ccheers,

Tank


After spending 3 days mongering in CP with Bill Lee, Santa and Rising Son, it was hard to leave but after spending my first night in Dai Ming Low with the speical 160 rmb service with a 15 min AR and a 15 min BBBJ.

I am going back to Ming Hao Sauna tonight and stay overnight in the VIP Room for only 298 rmb all inclusive, large round bed with mirror on the ceiing, large tv, very nice room. I was there last night pock Wong Mei from Guangxi, a tall young girl with dragon tatoo on her back, very fun girl. They offer table shower and body to body massage Thai style for 1hr 30 min ar and BBBJ. The girl here is younger and much better looking than in Dai Ming Low. I guess you get what you paid for.

Ming Hau Sauna 2nd floor, transportation, hotel, new managment, open 2 month ago behind the Gongbei Bus stations. 298 rmb VIP Room. You can stay over night after 12mid night. Phone 86 8884474.

Fast eddie 48

[Round Two]

Yeah, there are wankers on this board that also write fake reports or vastly glorified ones at that--some with very vivid imaginations. Sometimes these wankers even tend to talk badly behind the backs of other wankers for many unknown reasons. Such wankers should look in the mirror sometime. Usually avoid it as the sight is not pleasant, even to themselves.

I believe that appearance and charm go a long way towards dating attractive ladies. But, as for prostitutes that will have sex for money with a man, they will most likely do or say anything to get to the cash. One can be fugly with a missing limb and if they know you will spit out the cash, they will try to hook up with you. Simple as that. A person can say the stupidest or cheesiest things and feel that he is the life of the party. Yeah, since that person is paying for the party, his guests should politely pretend to enjoy themselves.

Attractive ladies will date and sleep with young attractive men for nothing, or even support them in times of need sometimes with later regrets. This idea is reversed when a man is old and unattractive--the man basically needs to support the girl if he wants to sleep with her. Now make that same man old, unattractive, and without cash and see if he has an easy time scoring with the gals only armed with his charm. Oh, "charm" does not mean being a liar throughout the entire conversation. Good luck!

Men can have an easier time convincing or bullshitting naive young girls from the provinces with a higher dependency for their personal quest for a better life (for them and their family). The same men will have a much more difficult time convincing or bullshitting educated women with strong family backgrounds. Choose ones targets wisely fully knowing ones own capabilities to save time on your hunt. Then we come back to the wankers that boast about having a stable of "freebies" from the provinces. I thought this was a P4P info board. Where do such freebies come into this equation unless we are talking about gaining an inside edge on a well known girl in town or tips on obtaining a F4P. Now, this might be valuable information, but if not it's most likely more ego boosting bullshit and useless chatter on this board. More material that can be uploaded to some of the other sites out there.

This is a P4P information board. Let's not con ourselves into thinking anything otherwise. I agree with BL, rating people belongs at a different site. It's fun to pretend sometimes, but at the end it all winds down to "You know I have the cash so let's fuck and I will give you some of it after we're thru."

As for F4P tips, I have been learning that it's cheaper to go the P4P route with much less drama in my life.

[Ace Gallant]

Yeah, there are wankers on this board that also write fake reports or vastly glorified ones at that--some with very vivid imaginations. Sometimes these wankers even tend to talk badly behind the backs of other wankers for many unknown reasons. Such wankers should look in the mirror sometime. Usually avoid it as the sight is not pleasant, even to themselves.Hi RT buddy,

How are you doing, getting bored in the Philippines? So bored that you want to start playing on the board with the small kids?

As you will be dropping by Zhuhai and in case I miss you there; here are some advice:

The problems with Zhuhai is that it is becoming to be like CP. There too much publicity. This causes embarrassment to the Chinese government and thus the clean up operations recently in Zhuhai. However these does not stops the Pros. It is a very old trade and they will find it back to the street very soon after the cleanups.

While mongering out with Johnny, OAH and Bill Lee sometimes back, Johnny had shown us some BBS in the backlanes of LHL. I hope they are still there and not been cleanup too. If you are in ZH you might want to check with Johnny on the location of those BBS.

Saunas in ZH are ok as rated against those in Shanghai, but you pay a little less. Unlike Shanghai, not every ZH saunas offer Red Ropes is that is what you fancy.

Oh by the way: You should try Airforce One in Pasay City very near the Airport. And take the first class package. you be enjoying yourself! But warning there is no Red Ropes like those in ZhuHAI.

Enjoy!
AG

[Admin]

Greetings everyone,

In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Azn Playa his own thread titled "Azn Playa in China".

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2641

Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.

I also cleaned up this thread by deleting several reports that were generally argumentative in nature. This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Jackson

[AznEagle]

Hi RT buddy,

How are you doing, getting bored in the Philippines? So bored that you want to start playing on the board with the small kids?

As you will be dropping by Zhuhai and in case I miss you there; here are some advice:

The problems with Zhuhai is that it is becoming to be like CP. There too much publicity. This causes embarrassment to the Chinese government and thus the clean up operations recently in Zhuhai. However these does not stops the Pros. It is a very old trade and they will find it back to the street very soon after the cleanups.

While mongering out with Johnny, OAH and Bill Lee sometimes back, Johnny had shown us some BBS in the backlanes of LHL. I hope they are still there and not been cleanup too. If you are in ZH you might want to check with Johnny on the location of those BBS.

Saunas in ZH are ok as rated against those in Shanghai, but you pay a little less. Unlike Shanghai, not every ZH saunas offer Red Ropes is that is what you fancy.

Oh by the way: You should try Airforce One in Pasay City very near the Airport. And take the first class package. you be enjoying yourself! But warning there is no Red Ropes like those in ZhuHAI.

Enjoy!

AGFirst time poster, anyways, just back from Zhuhai and Macau trip couple days ago. The saunas, hookers. etc services are still everywhere. Don't really need to worry about anything.

ZhuHai girls are good and not as expensive as Shanghai, the quality might even be better than the ones in Shanghai.

1st class beauties - Macau, Hong Kong, overseas.
2nd class beauties - Shenzhen, Zhuhai
3rd class beauties - Guangzhou, Shanghai

[Ace Gallant]

First time poster, anyways, just back from Zhuhai and Macau trip couple days ago. The saunas, hookers. etc services are still everywhere. Don't really need to worry about anything.

ZhuHai girls are good and not as expensive as Shanghai, the quality might even be better than the ones in Shanghai.

1st class beauties - Macau, Hong Kong, overseas.
2nd class beauties - Shenzhen, Zhuhai
3rd class beauties - Guangzhou, Shanghai

Beauty in the eyes of the Beholder.

IMHO: What one thinks is a 10/10 may end up as a 5/10 in others eyes. In China there are beauties everywhere if you know where to look. Whether its Macau, Hongkong, Shenzhen, Zhuhai, Shanghai or anywhere else, there are beauties. I don't think it is fair to classify them into classes.

Whilst, I do not agree on the fact that Beauties in Shanghai are more expansive than those found in Hongkong and Macau. Especially in Macau where the whole city is based on Entertainment in which it’s a Man’s world; but the cost of beauties are still generally much higher than Shanghai. Take for example: It will cost you 1200 – 2000 for an enjoyment in a Sauna but it would cost half the price in Shanghai. As for Zhuhai, generally I found the girls in Zhuhai are priced almost the same as those that can be found in Shanghai. Shanghai although not as "open" as in Zhuhai. They are all there if you know where to look for them. All you need to do is RTFF on the Shanghai threads. As you said; "the quality might even be better than the ones in Shanghai." The word "might", implied either you do not know Shanghai well enough or you still have little doubt about what you are saying.

Of course I do agree with you, in general, the quality of the entertainment places in Macau are way higher than those you find in Shanghai. After all; as I said; Macau is built based on entertainment industry. However in Zhuhai, it is otherwise. Its the same; every big city has its "high end" and "low end" places. And I also agree with you; Beauties are everywhere, if you know where to look. The only worrying part is: Members get ripped of paying for overpriced beauties. Or newbies get the wrong impression that girls in China can be picked up for free as they are a foreigner and/or they have a pretty face which will make them totally Irresistible to the girls. That is what this forum is all about; sharing information and experiences. If a newbie care to RTFF, they will not go wrong.

Enjoy!
AG
BTW: Yah... I am back... I never announced my retirement did I? This board would be much better with lesser wankers posting flaming posts and much better with people posting informative ones.

[Tanky]

Went there again a few days ago, and had the opportunity to try #12 again, which was again mentioned by the captain, she's one of the best there.

Anyway, cut story short, did everything you could imagine, and with dildo, and even let poke my finger up her arse.

(hmm, maybe can train her)

Still paying $348, got the bigger room, and stayed the night.

The only thing about staying the night is you need to settle the bill first, unlike junhao where you can settle when you wakes up in the morning. But it's a different league all together.

Tank

[Fast Eddie 48]

Went there again a few days ago, and had the opportunity to try #12 again, which was again mentioned by the captain, she's one of the best there.To tanky

The last time I was there my girl # 55 try to use her dildo up my ass and I told het no way I am into that but the AR is very good, you need to ask the manager for the 50 rmb discount coupon up front, the problem about going late at midnight the line up is not as good at around 6pm.

Fast eddie 48

[Tanky]

Thanks for that,

I'll check with the manager next time.

I also realised about going there late, as #12 actually came back, she was at home already when they called her.

{I'm thinking of checking out the scene in Goodworld Chang AN as well)

Tank


To tanky

The last time I was there my girl # 55 try to use her dildo up my ass and I told het no way I am into that but the AR is very good, you need to ask the manager for the 50 rmb discount coupon up front, the problem about going late at midnight the line up is not as good at around 6pm.

Fast eddie 48

[Fast Eddie 48]

Thanks for that,

I'll check with the manager next time.

I also realised about going there late, as #12 actually came back, she was at home already when they called her.

{I'm thinking of checking out the scene in Goodworld Chang AN as well)

TankTo tanky,

I been to Changan good world 2 time I like MingHao better is a newer sauna and the thai style body massage, cost is about the same both allow you to stay over night after midnight, I will try #12 next time if she is still working there.

Fast eddie 48

[European]

Ming Hao is realy good. Went there Friday night. Will go again.

By the way I am looking for some place where they do first a professional body massage (1-2 hours) and afterwards they will finish with a good HJ.
(Gongbei prefered)

EU

[Chopsuey]

Ming Hao is realy good. Went there Friday night. Will go again.

By the way I am looking for some place where they do first a professional body massage (1-2 hours) and afterwards they will finish with a good HJ.
(Gongbei prefered)

EUMy suggestion is the Sauna at the Harborview hotel. I;s across from the sea by the International convention center and about a 20 RMB cab fare from the Gongbei area. It's an excellent hotel to stay at as well.

I am not familiar with the Nighao as I do not know where it is and have never been there.

The massage at the Harborview hotel is excellent. I have never had a bad experience there. You can enjoy the massage and the options are yours.

Bring about 1000 RMB and that should cover it for you as the last time I was there it was in the range of 800 or so RMB and I don't remember the exact chage.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Ming Hao is realy good. Went there Friday night. Will go again.

By the way I am looking for some place where they do first a professional body massage (1-2 hours) and afterwards they will finish with a good HJ.
(Gongbei prefered)

EUTo european

Do you mean hand massage, not body to body massage? Across the st from Ming Hao the Gonbei Binguan have a massage place that offers a one hr massage and options for HJ or FS. I think the massage and room is 98 rmb and FS is 300 rmb, not sure aout the cost on HJ. I think 100 rmb tip is good .

Fast eddie 48

[European]

To european

Do you mean hand massage, not body to body massage? Across the st from Ming Hao the Gonbei Binguan have a massage place that offers a one hr massage and options for HJ or FS. I think the massage and room is 98 rmb and FS is 300 rmb, not sure aout the cost on HJ. I think 100 rmb tip is good .

Fast eddie 48

Hi Eddie

I mean hand massage (for the body to body I go to Ming Hao).
For the hand massage I pay normally around 30RMB/hour but at the place (place is good for massage ) I went there was no final HJ available. Maybe I will try the place you mentioned. Thanks

EU

[European]

My suggestion is the Sauna at the Harborview hotel. I;s across from the sea by the International convention center and about a 20 RMB cab fare from the Gongbei area. It's an excellent hotel to stay at as well.

I am not familiar with the Nighao as I do not know where it is and have never been there.

The massage at the Harborview hotel is excellent. I have never had a bad experience there. You can enjoy the massage and the options are yours.

Bring about 1000 RMB and that should cover it for you as the last time I was there it was in the range of 800 or so RMB and I don't remember the exact chage.

Hi Chopsuey

Thanks for the hint. I know harbourview. But to be frank 800RMB for a HJ is to expensive. When I found a place with reasonable price I let you know.
By the way you should try Ming Hao. (see attachment)
Cheers
EU

[Tanky]

Fast eddie,

Do you by anychance know any salon in Zhuhai that does waxing for man?

Cheers

Tank

[Moody]

Fast eddie,

Do you by anychance know any salon in Zhuhai that does waxing for man?

Cheers

Tank

A bit disturbing of a request... but I'm pretty sure they will do it for you at any salon that does waxing. Just tell them, "Wo yao tuo mao." They'll probably ask you where... and to be honest, I don't want to know...

[Tanky]

Hahaha,

Thanks moody, don't worry it's not that bad.

It's just annoying to go in and ask, only got rejected.

They always give excuses, not comfortable doing it.

Well, thanks anyway.

Tank.


A bit disturbing of a request. But I'm pretty sure they will do it for you at any salon that does waxing. Just tell them, "Wo yao tuo mao. " They'll probably ask you where. And to be honest, I don't want to know.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hahaha,

Thanks moody, don't worry it's not that bad.

It's just annoying to go in and ask, only got rejected.

They always give excuses, not comfortable doing it.

Well, thanks anyway.

Tank. To Tanky

Wax on wax off how hard can that be, show them the US dollar and I am sure they will be line up to offer you the service, I never have any girl in Zhu Hai turn down money before.

Or maybe having alot of hair is a good some girl think it is a turn on, my girl friend alway tell me why I don't have chest hair like Sean Connery and I told her all my ex had them pull off one by one.

Fast eddie 48

[Crazier]

Hi Chopsuey

By the way you should try Ming Hao. (see attachment)
Cheers
EU

Was in Zuhai for a night yesterday on the way out to catch my regular Air Asia flight and checked out this place with JK.

Sat through 3 line ups and although others who like the bigger framed & taller ladies might think the line ups are pretty good, it was just OK for my "Asian eyes".

Picked number 11 who had a pretty face (just trite more make up for me; i.e. any make up is too much for me) and a slightly "getting plump" figure.

Without clothes, her body was A-ok but I do like them slimmer and smaller overall. Note the capital A I used. Nice pinky nipples with a larger left breast than right.

Service was about 5.5 to 6.5 and yet I could not "nut". In fact, I went soft mid session and ended up massaging her and trying to bring her via G-Spot to an orgasm in my massage routine. I do like to see them squirm myself. If its real, it gets me back hard again!

I suppose if my girl in CP had not milked me dry over the same morning and previous night, I might have enjoyed the session more.

Overall, I would recommend the place cos its newly renovated with nice clean and "new " facilities and a very enthusiastic and horny sounding mami.

When I hesitated after sitting through 3 line ups, she gave me the promo price (which had ended) of 298 rmb. Certainly a bargain anywhere in the world!


Thks once again JK for your time. Cya soon if I can fix that mid July date and decide where to go. Anyone been to Dan Shui?

[Jimmy Wng]

I am new in Zhhai, need help finding the place to go.

Please assist

[RasSpewtin]

I am new in Zhhai, need help finding the place to go.

Please assist

Hi, Jimmy Wing:

Wow, we are all so glad that you posted today. In fact, it is probably the best first post that I have ever seen! There are so many other new members that waste their time by doing some research first, but you did the right thing here. You have just come right out and asked the all-important question: What should I do in Zhuhai?

Well….gosh golly and gee, Jimmy, today is your lucky day. I have been sitting in front of my computer screen all day, just waiting for a question like yours. So here it is, buddy. Your very own episode of the Top Ten List from the David Letterman Show, just for you. Christ, my heart is pounding so hard right now. It’s like we are on TV!

TOP TEN THINGS TO DO IN ZHUHAI
Number 10: Ask the concierge at your hotel if he can introduce you to Chairman Mao.

Number 9: Ask the staff at the front desk if you can get Chinese take-out delivered to your room.

Number 8: Hop into the nearest taxi, and tell the driver to take you to someplace really fun. A little warning here: He may give you a confused look, and pretend that he doesn’t speak English. Just speak loudly and slowly, and he will understand after a while. They all speak English now, thanks to us!

Number 7: Get a part-time job distributing shaving kits to the local young ladies. Chinese girls like nothing better than being clean shaven. You will be wealthy sooner than you ever dreamed.

Number 6: Place an ad in the lonely hearts section of the local newspaper, “Rich American gentleman seeks Chinese wife”. Make sure to include your mobile phone number in the ad.

Number 5: Go to the nearest neighborhood restaurant. Bring a picture of a yummy hamburger. Show the waitress the picture, and nod your head 5 times. Then wait to see what she brings you.

Number 4: Tell the concierge at your hotel that you want to go to a sauna. When you get there, make sure that you go straight to the steam room. Sit there and sweat for 90 minutes. Refuse to leave until they bring you the bill.

Number 3: Go and visit the Pearl Lady on the lake. Proposition her, take her back to your room, and make mad passionate love to the biatch. I hear that she is stone cold at first but warms up real quick with the right guy.

Number 2: Put on a trench coat, and nothing else. Stroll down Lover’s Lane with your pecker hanging out. Wait until a happy couple walks by, and drool at the guy’s girlfriend. Practice your Gung Fu.

And…….

Number One: Take the ferry back to Hong Kong. By the time you get through the first nine, you are gonna need a flight back home.

Welcome aboard Jimmy, and keep those great posts coming!
Raz

P.S. Do you mean "Zhhai" as you wrote, or "Zhuhai"? Maybe you found another similar city in a parallel universe?

[Tiger 888]

I am new in Zhhai, need help finding the place to go.

Please assistPoor guy, has a few keys missing in his keyboard. Just go to accessories, system tools, character map, find the 'u', copy it and paste it into your Zhhai. then do the forum search again.

[Ace Gallant]

Hi, Jimmy Wing:

Wow, we are all so glad that you posted today. In fact, it is probably the best first post that I have ever seen! There are so many other new members that waste their time by doing some research first, but you did the right thing here. You have just come right out and asked the all-important question: What should I do in Zhuhai?

Well….gosh golly and gee, Jimmy, today is your lucky day. I have been sitting in front of my computer screen all day, just waiting for a question like yours. So here it is, buddy. Your very own episode of the Top Ten List from the David Letterman Show, just for you. Christ, my heart is pounding so hard right now. It’s like we are on TV!

TOP TEN THINGS TO DO IN ZHUHAI
Number 10: Ask the concierge at your hotel if he can introduce you to Chairman Mao.

Number 9: Ask the staff at the front desk if you can get Chinese take-out delivered to your room.

Number 8: Hop into the nearest taxi, and tell the driver to take you to someplace really fun. A little warning here: He may give you a confused look, and pretend that he doesn’t speak English. Just speak loudly and slowly, and he will understand after a while. They all speak English now, thanks to us!

Number 7: Get a part-time job distributing shaving kits to the local young ladies. Chinese girls like nothing better than being clean shaven. You will be wealthy sooner than you ever dreamed.

Number 6: Place an ad in the lonely hearts section of the local newspaper, “Rich American gentleman seeks Chinese wife”. Make sure to include your mobile phone number in the ad.

Number 5: Go to the nearest neighborhood restaurant. Bring a picture of a yummy hamburger. Show the waitress the picture, and nod your head 5 times. Then wait to see what she brings you.

Number 4: Tell the concierge at your hotel that you want to go to a sauna. When you get there, make sure that you go straight to the steam room. Sit there and sweat for 90 minutes. Refuse to leave until they bring you the bill.

Number 3: Go and visit the Pearl Lady on the lake. Proposition her, take her back to your room, and make mad passionate love to the biatch. I hear that she is stone cold at first but warms up real quick with the right guy.

Number 2: Put on a trench coat, and nothing else. Stroll down Lover’s Lane with your pecker hanging out. Wait until a happy couple walks by, and drool at the guy’s girlfriend. Practice your Gung Fu.

And…….

Number One: Take the ferry back to Hong Kong. By the time you get through the first nine, you are gonna need a flight back home.

Welcome aboard Jimmy, and keep those great posts coming!
Raz

P.S. Do you mean "Zhhai" as you wrote, or "Zhuhai"? Maybe you found another similar city in a parallel universe?

Ras,

I hereby award you the official title of the Zhuhai ISG helpdesk!

If every member treat the board like a helpdesk, there is no need for us to post information anymore!

Enjoy!
AG

[Datiao]

Had never and wanted to try the saunas in ZhuHai after reading so much good postings contributions.

On 26/6 took a coach near GZ train station costs 65rmb and reached GongBei in slightly over 2 hrs at 4.30 pm. After having a bowl of noodles took a taxi to DMY sauna. Took a VIP room, sat on the couch and waited for the lineups.
First line up had 6 girls was poor mostly 5s on looks only a 6.5. Ask for a second line up and was worse than the first. Ask whether there's anymore and after a while the first line up was brought in again. Took the 6.5 as there were limited choice.

Asked me is it my first time here and I told her I came a few months ago.
she began with a wash up of my body and then using her breast to do it which feels good dry up and proceed to the bed.
She took out a card and showed the description of services but I took a brief look, then she proceed with the services.

Catbath , hot/cold bbbj, and others and cap me ready for the deed. No kissing on lips or breast, mish only and I came in 10 mins. Wash up, lie on the bed and look at the time WTF only half an hour had past. I know that she had notice my behaviour that I am new to the place and she had missed out at least 50% on the services to be provided.

I took out the card from her purse and pretend to look at it and asked her is that all? She started to explain about the services pointing at the card but I told her it seems like the service should last at hour excluding the deed and ask her what are we going to do for the remaining hour. She showed an unpleasant look and begin to massage my thighs.

I told her why not give me a blowjob. She ask we if I wanted a second pop and I said yes as I do not want her to get away with it so easily.
She put on the cap and started to make me erect by mouth but after 5 mins I told her to do bbbj as there is not much feeling to get aroused. She does as told and after another 5 mins I got a half erection and she put the cd on. Again only mish took around 20 mins to finish off, wash up and left. Her attitude was good when I changed and hook my arms going to the cashier. Maybe she was afraid I make a complain which I did as I was asked by the manager about how the service. Anyway paid the 228rmb and left for Macau.

Did not experience the full service which is actually what I wanted but managed to get 2 pops sort of make up for it.


Girl no. 21 from Hunan around 155cm tall (shortest of the lineup I saw)
Face 6.5
Body 7
bbbj 7
FJ 6 mish only but manage to pop twice
GFE 3 no kissing even on nipple
Attitude 3 try to short change on service

Will return but will not look for her
Maybe will try Ming Hao when return from Macau

[Datiao]

Went to Macau and spent a night visiting the few popular casinos but sort of break even gambling. Visited the Lisboa basement SW and indeed quality were much higher than Zhuhai umbrella area. Were approached by basically all of the girls but did not take any as I was tired after the Zhuhai 2 pops and knowing the great likelihood of getting a looks only rush service at 800rmb fs.

Next morning Went to a restaurant to have lunch and make my way back to Zhuhai and went to MingHao sauna.
Greeted by a lady manager and brought me to the room to wait for the viewing. She says to recommend me a girl with good service and brought her in. 7 inlooks and body I told her I wanted to see more before deciding. Saw another 2 lineups of 6 girls and were almost the same, so decided to take the one recommended.

no.129 Zi Ling from AnKui at 165 height
That time the service provided were so much better and longer than DMY I experience the day before.
breast soapie, catbath , AR with lips and vibrator, hotcold bbbj , asked me whether to do the deed, requested for more bbbj and she proceeded for another 5mins , DATY,doggie and mish finished about 15 mins later. She later told me she felt stomach pain after doggie, maybe due to too much force exerted.


Tip her 30rmb for the good service and paid the 298rmb at the counter and left.

Looks 7
Body 7
Service 8
bbbj 8
FS 7
Attitude 8

Will return to look for her unless some stunners turn up

[Derim]

Hello, I have few questions about Zhuhai:

- are there still BBSs near LHL? Any other areas with BBSs?

- at what time saunas open? What time is the best to visit them (less local customers = better lineup)?

- when is the happy hour in DMY sauna?

- what is the pricing structure in DMY? I've seen here prices ranging from 160 to 228 for a happy hour session

- it seems that price for Ming Hao sauna includes a room for a whole night. But what if I don't want to stay for whole night, can I get lower price in that case?

- are two shots usually guaranteed in those saunas?

- is Gongbei best district for hotel? Any hotel recommendations? Are hotels usually guest friendly?

- are there some popular local discos for finding ordinary girls?

Thanks for any assistance!

[RasSpewtin]

Derim:
I will answer what I can here.

1. Are there still BBSs near LHL? Any other areas with BBSs?
Raz sez: Check out some of the alleys that run off LHL. I have seen a few BBS there, with differing quality. Yes, there are other BBS in Zhuhai, but I have not seen the likes of what we once had in Shenzhen.

2. What time saunas open? What time is the best to visit them (less local customers = better lineup)?
Raz sez: They open sometime in the morning, and stay open until around 2:00am or so. Weekend nights and some days of the week are busy. Try going in the early afternoon. Less customers does not necessarily mean more girls. They sometimes bring in more girls when there are more guys waiting to f*ck them.

3. When is the happy hour in DMY sauna?
Raz sez: Happy hour is during the first 60 minutes of the session, before I pop. Seriously, I think that the cheaper hours are from 12 midnight to 7pm, something like that.

4. What is the pricing structure in DMY? I've seen here prices ranging from 160 to 228 for a happy hour session.
Raz sez: Happy hour should be 160, period.

5. It seems that price for Ming Hao sauna includes a room for a whole night. But what if I don't want to stay for whole night, can I get lower price in that case?
Raz sez: I have no idea. Ain’t been there yet. Going this coming week, though.

6. Are two shots usually guaranteed in those saunas?
Raz sez: That all depends on you. Try soya lecithin and vitamin E, I hear that stuff is good nut nutrition. If you are lucky enough to pop twice in 90 minutes, then ask her ahead of time if she is OK with it. If you don’t ask, she may not be so cooperative after the first pop.

7. Is Gongbei best district for hotel? Any hotel recommendations? Are hotels usually guest friendly?
Raz sez: Good hotels in Gongbei and Jida. Try the Grand Bay View. As long as you have a credit card and your guest is not behaving badly, the staff will be friendly to her. In fact, the concierge may be a little more guest friendly than you would prefer.

8. Are there some popular local discos for finding ordinary girls?
Raz sez: Try Bar Street, lots of “ordinary” girls there. I picked up one girl from a bar there who was so ordinary, that she was just a little shy of homely. Johnny asked me why I picked a homely one that night. I told him that I felt sorry for her, and more importantly, she was pretty much a sure thing.
Raz

[Ace Gallant]

Just got into Guangdong Hotel in Zhuhai and was surprise and disappointed that they are having renovation. The whole main entrence was a mess and you will have to climb the stair up to the second floor before taking the elevator!

That is not so fun for serious mongering!

The current main entrence had been moved to the former restaurant entrence by the side and thus it is very small. Imagine if you were to bring girls back to the hotel, you cannot avoid the walk of shame! Beside with the elevators to the room on the second floor... can't imagine how you will make it up if your legs are weak from continuous shagging .... :)

However the newly renovated rooms are nice and that just about all!

Enjoy!
AG

[Derim]

Thanks for an advice Raz!

[Fast Eddie 48]

Thanks for an advice Raz!To Derim,

I understand that you are a newbie you should take some time and read the form more , and only way you can learn is to go hunting yourself RAZ is being a nice guy to take time answer all your question that is already post here and most senior member to tell you to go to hell .

Fast eddie 48

[Superforce99]

Since Jackson was kind enough re-adjust my moderated status, I want to make
some minor corrections to Raz's info since I don't want anybody confused or
to have the wrong info:




Derim:
I will answer what I can here.

1. Are there still BBSs near LHL? Any other areas with BBSs?
Raz sez: Check out some of the alleys that run off LHL. I have seen a few BBS there, with differing quality. Yes, there are other BBS in Zhuhai, but I have not seen the likes of what we once had in Shenzhen.
Raz

There are actually a lot more BBSs in Zhuhai than many people realize. There
are about half a dozen located within the alleyways of LHL and there are other
areas in Xiangzhou and Jida that have a smattering of BBSs. The standard
pricing at BBS is 130 RMB for ST on-site or at a local Gongbei hotel. It could
be more, 150+, the farther you live from the BBS.



2. What time saunas open? What time is the best to visit them (less local customers = better lineup)?
Raz sez: They open sometime in the morning, and stay open until around 2:00am or so. Weekend nights and some days of the week are busy. Try going in the early afternoon. Less customers does not necessarily mean more girls. They sometimes bring in more girls when there are more guys waiting to f*ck them.
Raz

Saunas are usually open for business starting at 12 noon, though it can vary
from place to place, but 12pm - 1pm is a safe bet. DMY, for example, is open at
9AM. Coffee, eggs, toast, and pussy....the breakfast of champions...



3. When is the happy hour in DMY sauna?
Raz sez: Happy hour is during the first 60 minutes of the session, before I pop. Seriously, I think that the cheaper hours are from 12 midnight to 7pm, something like that.
Raz

9AM - 12 noon is happy hour #1 and 5pm-8pm is happy hour #2.



4. What is the pricing structure in DMY? I've seen here prices ranging from 160 to 228 for a happy hour session.
Raz sez: Happy hour should be 160, period.
Raz

220-238 RMB is the happy hour price for the better rooms (shower, sauna,
etc. all in-room). 160 RMB is for the no-frills room with a bed and nothing else.



5. It seems that price for Ming Hao sauna includes a room for a whole night. But what if I don't want to stay for whole night, can I get lower price in that case?
Raz sez: I have no idea. Ain’t been there yet. Going this coming week, though.
Raz

Apparently, Ming Hao does NOT let you stay overnight if you have a sauna
session. Overnight in the room costs 50 RMB extra. I guess the new facilites
must have been to expensive and they need to make their money back.



6. Are two shots usually guaranteed in those saunas?
Raz sez: That all depends on you. Try soya lecithin and vitamin E, I hear that stuff is good nut nutrition. If you are lucky enough to pop twice in 90 minutes, then ask her ahead of time if she is OK with it. If you don’t ask, she may not be so cooperative after the first pop.
Raz

Two shots are not guaranteed at any sauna, in general. As with most
businesses, it's about the people...so it's hard for me to recommend any
sauna based on service because each gal differs from another gal and even
the same gal can give you different service on different visits.

The best thing is let the gal know you expect two shots, definately before you
attempt the first shot. The key is talking to the gal directly and not the
captain or the manager and also to "state it expectantly" instead of "a request"
if you know what I mean. Better to state it like something you already know
she must do and you're just informing her. Basically, you tell her that you will do
two shots. Being bossy and an asshole just gets your farther in China, what
can I say? But anyway, at DMY it will be "no problem" with 99% of the gals
there. With other saunas, the acceptance rate is lower and many girls will
tell you no second shot unless you pay extra.



7. Is Gongbei best district for hotel? Any hotel recommendations? Are hotels usually guest friendly?
Raz sez: Good hotels in Gongbei and Jida. Try the Grand Bay View. As long as you have a credit card and your guest is not behaving badly, the staff will be friendly to her. In fact, the concierge may be a little more guest friendly than you would prefer.
Raz

Depends on what kind of hotel you are looking for. There are by far the most
number of short-time hotels located in Gongbei...



8. Are there some popular local discos for finding ordinary girls?
Raz sez: Try Bar Street, lots of “ordinary” girls there. I picked up one girl from a bar there who was so ordinary, that she was just a little shy of homely. Johnny asked me why I picked a homely one that night. I told him that I felt sorry for her, and more importantly, she was pretty much a sure thing.
Raz

There are several bar streets in Zhuhai and the most popular one would be
Shuiwan Bar Street down the block from Bu Bu Gao Hotel in Gongbei. It's a
collection of about 7-8 bars that are right next to each other. That is
also, incidentally, where many of Zhuhai's expats hangout at night so if you
need to find some native English-speaking friends, there you go.

The Tian Di Ren Jia disco near the Gongbei Bus Terminal is the most popular
with teens, LHL gals, wannabe gangsters, and most of the early 20s-something
population of ZH. Yesterday Disco is across the street from the Overseas
Chinese hotel. The patrons are mostly in their late 20s-early 30s.


Thanks again to Raz for even taking the time to answer inane questions that
have been answered in this thread over and over again...


J

[Ace Gallant]

Since Jackson was kind enough re-adjust my moderated status, I want to make
some minor corrections to Raz's info since I don't want anybody confused or
to have the wrong info:

There are actually a lot more BBSs in Zhuhai than many people realize. There
are about half a dozen located within the alleyways of LHL and there are other
areas in Xiangzhou and Jida that have a smattering of BBSs. The standard
pricing at BBS is 130 RMB for ST on-site or at a local Gongbei hotel. It could
be more, 150+, the farther you live from the BBS.

Saunas are usually open for business starting at 12 noon, though it can vary
from place to place, but 12pm - 1pm is a safe bet. DMY, for example, is open at
9AM. Coffee, eggs, toast, and pussy....the breakfast of champions...
9AM - 12 noon is happy hour #1 and 5pm-8pm is happy hour #2.

220-238 RMB is the happy hour price for the better rooms (shower, sauna,
etc. all in-room). 160 RMB is for the no-frills room with a bed and nothing else.

Apparently, Ming Hao does NOT let you stay overnight if you have a sauna
session. Overnight in the room costs 50 RMB extra. I guess the new facilites
must have been to expensive and they need to make their money back.

Two shots are not guaranteed at any sauna, in general. As with most
businesses, it's about the people...so it's hard for me to recommend any
sauna based on service because each gal differs from another gal and even
the same gal can give you different service on different visits.

The best thing is let the gal know you expect two shots, definately before you
attempt the first shot. The key is talking to the gal directly and not the
captain or the manager and also to "state it expectantly" instead of "a request"
if you know what I mean. Better to state it like something you already know
she must do and you're just informing her. Basically, you tell her that you will do
two shots. Being bossy and an asshole just gets your farther in China, what
can I say? But anyway, at DMY it will be "no problem" with 99% of the gals
there. With other saunas, the acceptance rate is lower and many girls will
tell you no second shot unless you pay extra.

Depends on what kind of hotel you are looking for. There are by far the most
number of short-time hotels located in Gongbei...

There are several bar streets in Zhuhai and the most popular one would be
Shuiwan Bar Street down the block from Bu Bu Gao Hotel in Gongbei. It's a
collection of about 7-8 bars that are right next to each other. That is
also, incidentally, where many of Zhuhai's expats hangout at night so if you
need to find some native English-speaking friends, there you go.

The Tian Di Ren Jia disco near the Gongbei Bus Terminal is the most popular
with teens, LHL gals, wannabe gangsters, and most of the early 20s-something
population of ZH. Yesterday Disco is across the street from the Overseas
Chinese hotel. The patrons are mostly in their late 20s-early 30s.

Thanks again to Raz for even taking the time to answer inane questions that
have been answered in this thread over and over again...

J

Welcome back JK.....

Just a couple of questions:

1) I noticed that most of the Hotels in Zhuhai does have a Sauna, While speaking to my foot massage girl told me, 100% of the Saunas in Zhuhai give extra services. Is that true?

2) Someone told me that there are private club-house in Zhuhai that offer Sauna and KTV, two in one kind of place. Is there such a place?

3) While walking on LHL in my last trip last week, there are much lesser girls on the street as before. Earlier in the evenings; they do not approach unless you give them eye to eye contact. However late in the night, I was approached by a SWs whom I took back to the hotel. Now; Is this normal nowadays?

4) There are more male touts the before; are these touts for real? or will they lead you to some place to be ripped off? As a rules of thumb; Never follow the touts! But I am just wondering; does the clean up causes the trade to be pushed to male touts? (Just side-track; every time a tout came towards me, I look at him fiecely and he seems to understand that I do not want to be disturb. That's the reason why I asked you, whether do I looked like a undercover police).

Enjoy!
AG

[Superforce99]

Welcome back JK.....

Just a couple of questions:

1) I noticed that most of the Hotels in Zhuhai does have a Sauna, While speaking to my foot massage girl told me, 100% of the Saunas in Zhuhai give extra services. Is that true?


Yes



2) Someone told me that there are private club-house in Zhuhai that offer Sauna and KTV, two in one kind of place. Is there such a place?


Not sure about private clubs, but I was in a place yesterday where KTV was on 2nd Floor and Sauna was on 3rd floor and you could get the sauna girls to sing/ect. with you at KTV first before going upstairs with them. Imagine that, KTV play then sauna service from the same gal...all for usual Zhuhai prices of 200-300 RMB inclusive for sitting fee + beers, and 268 RMB inclusive for 90 minutes sauna service...

This place is across the street from the Year 2000 Hotel, but don't remember the name exactly. If you or anyone else is around in ZH, I can take you there. From what I'm told, this is a lower-fee place for locals and budget-conscious mongers. There are higher-end places but I'm not interested in these types of double-trouble pleasure places anyway, so I'm not going to go exploring...



3) While walking on LHL in my last trip last week, there are much lesser girls on the street as before. Earlier in the evenings; they do not approach unless you give them eye to eye contact. However late in the night, I was approached by a SWs whom I took back to the hotel. Now; Is this normal nowadays?


Yes



4) There are more male touts the before; are these touts for real? or will they lead you to some place to be ripped off? As a rules of thumb; Never follow the touts! But I am just wondering; does the clean up causes the trade to be pushed to male touts? (Just side-track; every time a tout came towards me, I look at him fiecely and he seems to understand that I do not want to be disturb. That's the reason why I asked you, whether do I looked like a undercover police).

Enjoy!
AG

Most of the male touts are real but you can get scammed if you use their short-time rooms. If you are staying in a 3-4 star hotel, bring your girl back there and you should have no problems.

And you don't look like an undercover police in anyway, more like a friendly uncle, ha ha...I'm sure the touts are smart enough to understand when they have an uninterested customer.


J

[OldAsiaHand]

Two shots are not guaranteed at any sauna, in general. As with most
businesses, it's about the people...so it's hard for me to recommend any
sauna based on service because each gal differs from another gal and even
the same gal can give you different service on different visits.

The best thing is let the gal know you expect two shots, definately before you
attempt the first shot. The key is talking to the gal directly and not the
captain or the manager and also to "state it expectantly" instead of "a request"
if you know what I mean. Better to state it like something you already know
she must do and you're just informing her. Basically, you tell her that you will do
two shots. Being bossy and an asshole just gets your farther in China, what
can I say? But anyway, at DMY it will be "no problem" with 99% of the gals
there. With other saunas, the acceptance rate is lower and many girls will
tell you no second shot unless you pay extra.

First, let me qualify this post by saying that I am not a sauna expert but I do reckon I have had about 100 visits over the years in different parts of China.

I have found that foreigners are at a disadvantage for the following reasons:

1) The girls reckon that you don't know what to expect and many will provide the minimum service they think they can get away with.

2) The girls think that you are a "one time" customer and are unlikely to see you again.

3) The girls think that you are either unable or unwilling to complain to the management.

As JK has said, you need to give them the impression that you visit saunas all the time and know exactly all the services that should be provided. I often find the girls trying to skip some of the routine on me and getting lazy after the first pop just waiting for the time to run out. Even though it may ruin some of the "romantic" nature of the experience, if you want good service, you must demand it.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Ace Gallant]

Thanks JK for the ever enlightening answers! I am sure the readers of ZH thread are pleased that you are back, we should have more people like you and less wankers on the board.


Yes

This place is across the street from the Year 2000 Hotel, but don't remember the name exactly. If you or anyone else is around in ZH, I can take you there. From what I'm told, this is a lower-fee place for locals and budget-conscious mongers. There are higher-end places but I'm not interested in these types of double-trouble pleasure places anyway, so I'm not going to go exploring...



Sure looking forward for this.




And you don't look like an undercover police in anyway, more like a friendly uncle, ha ha...I'm sure the touts are smart enough to understand when they have an uninterested customer.

J

Hahaha... no wonder those girls over the LHL bars are talking to me about been their sugar daddy! I really look old enough to be one of those stupid old man who is just about to lose all their money to the young smart girls!

Enjoy!
AG

[RasSpewtin]

Regarding some of the comments here about how to get better service at the saunas, I have a little story to relate from last night that will stand as a shining example of what not to do.

I started last night’s search at the Emerald sauna, where I had one good and one great experience previously. In fact, I didn’t even bring along any of the business cards of some other saunas just in case; I was so sure that I would find someone to my complete satisfaction, based on that past experience. Oops. Turns out I either caught them on a bad night, or they are going downhill in quality. Mistake #Zero: Always have a backup plan, in the form of cards from more than one sauna. You never know when a joint is gonna have a dry night.

The manageress brought out two lineups of two girls each, as compared to 5 or 6-girl lineups on previous visits. I recognized a few of them, because they were girls that I had declined before. There were no lookers to be had. I told the mommy that I liked them to be shapely, and drew a picture of an hourglass figure with my hands in the air. I didn’t care if they were tall or short, white skin or dark. I just like them shapely. Not skinny and not fat, just shapely. And so she calls in this fat da-peng-zi from Hubei, and I damn near tossed a gut full of Hunan food all over the floor. With that, I promptly stood up and left.

I had been meaning to check out the Ming Hao sauna anyway, and managed to find it with the help of some SMS advice from some new guy that has just rejoined the board (hahaha). Now the Ming Hao was another story. I saw 3 lineups of 5 or 6 girls each. There were at least 2 girls that were do-able in each of the lineups. I picked #33 from Guangxi, because she was the best looker in my eyes. Mistake #1: Don’t pick the best looker when you want good service. Pick the one that gives you some good eye contact and happy vibes.

We got into the session after a longer-than-usual bath and lame massage routine. Then she asked me if it was my first time there, and I admitted that it was. Mistake #2: Never tell them that it is your first time, or at least find a way of telling them that you are familiar with the services that should be offered. Well, once she had figured out that I was a first-timer to the Ming Hao, she almost immediately took the little tray of fluids and liquids and put them aside.

After 15 minutes of lame massage, I pointed to the cup of hot water that was still on hand, and told her to get busy and give Raz some head. She complied. When she paused for longer than 5 seconds, I told her to keep giving Raz head until he said stop. I gotta say, her pretty mouth seemed nearly picturesque on my dick. Those renaissance dudes could have painted a real swell picture of that pastoral scene. But there was no other kinky stuff, such as a cat bath, ball licking, or tongue-in-bum action. Why not? See Mistake #2 above.

Next we were doing the dirty deed, and only 1 minute into it she was sternly reminding me that there would only be one pop on the menu, and no more. Mistake #3: If you want a second pop, you must remember to tell them of that expectation before the party starts. Come to think of it, I was uncharacteristically submissive last night. I gotta channel back into my control-freak side.

So after a few minutes of bumping her pretty noggin against the head board, I popped and paused. She promptly yanked me out, and showered. Five minutes later she was dressed. This was 60 minutes into what should be a 90-minute session. I was bored with her attitude by that time, so I figured fuck it and dressed to leave. And yes, just like OAH said, I didn’t bother with complaining to the manager. In fact, OAH hits the nail on the head on every one of his points.

So there you have it. My best advice to all of you who seek the best service that you can get at a sauna is to do as I say, not as I do. Feel free to learn from my mistakes.

Raz




First, let me qualify this post by saying that I am not a sauna expert but I do reckon I have had about 100 visits over the years in different parts of China.

I have found that foreigners are at a disadvantage for the following reasons:

1) The girls reckon that you don't know what to expect and many will provide the minimum service they think they can get away with.

2) The girls think that you are a "one time" customer and are unlikely to see you again.

3) The girls think that you are either unable or unwilling to complain to the management.

As JK has said, you need to give them the impression that you visit saunas all the time and know exactly all the services that should be provided. I often find the girls trying to skip some of the routine on me and getting lazy after the first pop just waiting for the time to run out. Even though it may ruin some of the "romantic" nature of the experience, if you want good service, you must demand it.

Just my POV.

OAH

[SE Asia Joe]

Welcome back Johnny - practically even stopped checking the Zhuhai thread when you went away for a while!
NOw I got another reason to make it to Macau and Zhuhai soon - or at least as soon as I can come back from my usual "summer back Statesides"
Welcome back!
SE Asia Joe

[Grassy Knoll]

Raz,

Been there done that. I agree that the best looker is to be avoided if you're looking for service. Wouldn't it be great if we could read thier minds, and then we could all save ourselves a lot of time and money?

I just returned to my home in Hong Kong from Singapore where afer two days I zeroed in on a fantanstic girl from Sichuan who works the free lance Chinese-oriented KTV bar scene. She's a sweet girl who delivered whenever I asked. Expensive by China standards but I am one who is willing to pay for GFE service. No regrets.

Good hunting,

GK

[Jimmy Triharder]

Hello,

Thanks Raz for showing me around. Your wisdom and humor is delightful. I am sorry that you could not join me this next week. I hope that Johnny will let me buy him a beer or dinner at the seafood place in exchange for showing me the ktv/sauna combination. What do you think Johnny?

[Superforce99]

Was with Raz on LHL from about 4pm - 6pm-ish and there were at least 30+ young, delicious gals making the LHL patrol and being mid-level agressive in approaching customers. I would rate the typical gal at about a 7/10, so somewhat higher than the average CP gals (I rate the average CP gal a 6/10 for all you CP lovers who want a comparison). No cops or paddywagons in sight.

Came back to LHL around 9:30pm - 10:30pm and there were less than 5 cautiously patrolling LHL. But we checked out the LHL alleyway BBSs and they had a good amount of gals available. And remember, 200 ST for LHL gals and 130 ST for BBS gals (price is for on-site service in their BBS ST rooms, they will ask 150+ if you live in a hotel more than 5 min from their shop). But also, no cops or paddywagons in sight.

So, if you want to see a larger number of LHL gals walking about, make a pre-dinner stroll over to LHL...


J

[Fast Eddie 48]

Was with Raz on LHL from about 4pm - 6pm-ish and there were at least 30+ young, delicious gals making the LHL patrol and being mid-level agressive in approaching customers. I would rate the typical gal at about a 7/10, so somewhat higher than the average CP gals (I rate the average CP gal a 6/10 for all you CP lovers who want a comparison). No cops or paddywagons in sight.

Came back to LHL around 9:30pm - 10:30pm and there were less than 5 cautiously patrolling LHL. But we checked out the LHL alleyway BBSs and they had a good amount of gals available. And remember, 200 ST for LHL gals and 130 ST for BBS gals (price is for on-site service in their BBS ST rooms, they will ask 150+ if you live in a hotel more than 5 min from their shop). But also, no cops or paddywagons in sight.

So, if you want to see a larger number of LHL gals walking about, make a pre-dinner stroll over to LHL.

JTo Johnny,

I think the best time is still after midnight quality and the quanity is the best but it is still a hit and miss less police at this hr and most girl are leaving the disco , they come and go like ghost one minute there are 20 and next minute they are gone .

Fast eddie 48

[RasSpewtin]

Any other members interested in a trip from Zhuhai to Chang Ping this weekend? If so, it would be good if we could split the cost of a private car to CP and back. Anyone interested in sharing a cab in either direction please send me a PM. I am thinking of leaving either late Friday afternoon or sometime on Saturday morning, depending on the amount of interest shown. As an FYI, you can figure that a private car one way is around 450 RMB.

The talent was exceptional when I was there two weeks ago, so now is the time to get over there!

Raz

[Ace Gallant]

Any other members interested in a trip from Zhuhai to Chang Ping this weekend? If so, it would be good if we could split the cost of a private car to CP and back. Anyone interested in sharing a cab in either direction please send me a PM. I am thinking of leaving either late Friday afternoon or sometime on Saturday morning, depending on the amount of interest shown. As an FYI, you can figure that a private car one way is around 450 RMB.

The talent was exceptional when I was there two weeks ago, so now is the time to get over there!

Raz

Raz,

You might want to contact JK as I know he will be coming up to CP too. The last time the car we took is 400RMB one way. But we gave him a little extra for been nice and going out to fetch JK too.

See you in CP this weekend.

Enjoy!
AG

[Superforce99]

Was at LHL about 5pm - 6pm yesterday afternoon. About 30+ gals aggressively approaching single/older/tourist-looking males. I would rate the average girl a 6/10 but there were a few 7s and 8s (both the girl in blue dress and girl in black dress fall here...I'm assuming you couldn't help me out, Raz? ha ha...)

Was on the road around 10pm and was pretty crowded with people, but might have been 5 LHL gals total and happened to pass by again at about 1am coming from bar street. There were more girls at that early hour than at 10pm but overall (and many from earlier in the afternoon still workin' it, damn...), but the quantity/quantity were best in the late afternoon.


J

[One Eyed Monger]

I've read through the forum and done searches but I've come up with nothing so I will ask the question here with the hopes that I don't get flamed.

What does LHL stand for?

I'm able to figure out that it is stands for the name of a street, but doing a search for "LHL" only gives me all the posts where "LHL" is used, it doesn't provide me with the knowledge of what it actually means. I've tried searching it with various other words but to no avail. I've looked at online maps and maps in my books but can't seem to locate it either.

So, as a last resort, I'm asking here. I realize I risk being flamed and being told "RTFF", but I have and wasn't able to come up with anything. My appologies for annoying anyone with this question. And thanks to anyone who is able to help me out.

OEM

[Ace Gallant]

I've read through the forum and done searches but I've come up with nothing so I will ask the question here with the hopes that I don't get flamed.

What does LHL stand for?

I'm able to figure out that it is stands for the name of a street, but doing a search for "LHL" only gives me all the posts where "LHL" is used, it doesn't provide me with the knowledge of what it actually means. I've tried searching it with various other words but to no avail. I've looked at online maps and maps in my books but can't seem to locate it either.

So, as a last resort, I'm asking here. I realize I risk being flamed and being told "RTFF", but I have and wasn't able to come up with anything. My appologies for annoying anyone with this question. And thanks to anyone who is able to help me out.

OEM

Good that you had RTFF and did a search.

LHL stands for Lian Hua Lu (Road of Water Lily) :D

It starts from The Guangdong Hotel all the way to Gong Bei customs.

Enjoy!
AG

[Round Two]

I've read through the forum and done searches but I've come up with nothing so I will ask the question here with the hopes that I don't get flamed.

What does LHL stand for?


I learned it from going to the supermarkets, "Lianhua" in Shanghai. I got curious and looked it up to be water lillies. Not sure if it's of any importance to know the meaning of the street name, but I guess your Mandarin vocabulary is one word larger now.

I think I got here too early. If you are nearby LHL, maybe you can join me for a beer. I am staying at the Yindo which looks good on the outside, but a real shithole inside. I don't mind staying in shitholes as long as they look like it on the outside. When they look nice outside, and dirty inside. I feel like I was tricked.

[Ace Gallant]

I think I got here too early. If you are nearby LHL, maybe you can join me for a beer. I am staying at the Yindo which looks good on the outside, but a real shithole inside. I don't mind staying in shitholes as long as they look like it on the outside. When they look nice outside, and dirty inside. I feel like I was tricked.

It is never too early for LHL, unless you are talking about 6am - 11am time period. There are alway lots of activities go on mainly because it links directly to the Gong Bei customs into Macau and ZH bus station. It is the major tourist shopping area of ZH.

Yindo is an old hotel but one of the many local 5-star hotels. Yah... the rooms are shitholes! I would like to recommend you to stay in Guangdong hotel but they are under renovation right now. Guangdong Hotel (formerly Guangdong Regency) is right at start of of where the action is! LHL!

Enjoy!
AG

[Bill Lee]

The street is called Lotus Road.

Good luck and happy hunting.

More detail link: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=581248&postcount=1077

Bill


I've read through the forum and done searches but I've come up with nothing so I will ask the question here with the hopes that I don't get flamed.

What does LHL stand for?

I'm able to figure out that it is stands for the name of a street, but doing a search for "LHL" only gives me all the posts where "LHL" is used, it doesn't provide me with the knowledge of what it actually means. I've tried searching it with various other words but to no avail. I've looked at online maps and maps in my books but can't seem to locate it either.

So, as a last resort, I'm asking here. I realize I risk being flamed and being told "RTFF", but I have and wasn't able to come up with anything. My appologies for annoying anyone with this question. And thanks to anyone who is able to help me out.

OEM

[Hat Trick]

............ I am staying at the Yindo which looks good on the outside, but a real shithole inside. I don't mind staying in shitholes as long as they look like it on the outside. When they look nice outside, and dirty inside. I feel like I was tricked.

Haha, that's funny. :D

Incidentally, all hotels on or near that block are shitholes, so are their saunas. They all look like Hiltons on the outside.

Use elong.com or ctrip.com to find 4-5 star hotels near LHL. Take away 1.5 stars for U.S. hotels comparison.

Cheeers

[Fast Eddie 48]

Haha, that's funny. :D

Incidentally, all hotels on or near that block are shitholes, so are their saunas. They all look like Hiltons on the outside.

Use elong.com or ctrip.com to find 4-5 star hotels near LHL. Take away 1.5 stars for U.S. hotels comparison.

CheeersTo Hattrick,

What the f you expect from a small city like Zhu hai , There are a few 4 star resort hotel away from gongbei border , Guangdong regency is the best in the area or if you want expensive just go across the border to wynn Macau.

Fast eddie 48

[Weelock]

Haha, that's funny. :D

Incidentally, all hotels on or near that block are shitholes, so are their saunas. They all look like Hiltons on the outside.

Use elong.com or ctrip.com to find 4-5 star hotels near LHL. Take away 1.5 stars for U.S. hotels comparison.

Cheeers

In my opinion, the best hotel closest to LHL is Grand Bay View. You have an excellent view of the bay, rated 5 stars, about 70-90USD a night, about a 5-7 min walk to bar street. The hotel is about a 15-20 min walk to LHL. I ate dinner at the hotel a few times. There's a sauna at this hotel also. Sorry I didn't try. I remember once there were around 25 SW in the street and by the park that’s front of the hotel. I came back a few months later, nothing.

Grand Bay View Hotel Zhuhai
Shuiwan Road
Zhuhai 519020
Guangdong

Tel: (86-756) 8877998
Fax: (86-756) 8878998

For great saunas, there are lots of great sanua but you are going to pay for it. I once posted a list of high end saunas. The prices range from 700-1000RMB.

There are many other 5 star hotels in Zhuhai but they are not near to LHL/border. You can try Zhuhai International Convention Center Hotel. This hotel is famous for it’s Japanese orgies. :D It's futher away, about a 15-20 ride by taxi from LHL. You can tell the hotel you want to plan your own orgy for an ISG Convention soon. :D

[Chopsuey]

In my opinion, the best hotel closest to LHL is Grand Bay View. You have an excellent view of the bay, rated 5 stars, about 60-80USD a night, about a 5-7 min walk to bar street. The hotel is about a 15 min walk to LHL. I ate dinner at the hotel a few times. There's a sauna at this hotel also. Sorry I didn't try. I remember once there were around 25 SW in the street and by the park that’s front of the hotel. I came back a few months later, nothing.

Grand Bay View Hotel Zhuhai
Shuiwan Road
Zhuhai 519020
Guangdong

Tel: (86-756) 8877998
Fax: (86-756) 8878998

For great saunas, there are lots of great sanua but you are going to pay for it. I once posted a list of high end saunas. The prices range from 700-1000RMB.

There are many other 5 star hotels in Zhuhai but they are not near to LHL/border. You can try Zhuhai International Convention Center Hotel. This hotel is famous for it’s Japanese orgy. :D A little far, about a 15-20 ride by taxi from LHL. You can tell them you what to start your own orgy. :DWeelock,

I don't think the international convention center hotel has a sauna, at least they didn't last time I was there or else I didn't notice it.

I recomend the Harborview Hotel Sauna which is across the street and the hotel is as well. Both hotels have excellent restaurants.

[Waterfish7788]

Regarding some of the comments here about how to get better service at the saunas, I have a little story to relate from last night that will stand as a shining example of what not to do.

I started last night’s search at the Emerald sauna, where I had one good and one great experience previously. In fact, I didn’t even bring along any of the business cards of some other saunas just in case; I was so sure that I would find someone to my complete satisfaction, based on that past experience. Oops. Turns out I either caught them on a bad night, or they are going downhill in quality. Mistake #Zero: Always have a backup plan, in the form of cards from more than one sauna. You never know when a joint is gonna have a dry night.

The manageress brought out two lineups of two girls each, as compared to 5 or 6-girl lineups on previous visits. I recognized a few of them, because they were girls that I had declined before. There were no lookers to be had. I told the mommy that I liked them to be shapely, and drew a picture of an hourglass figure with my hands in the air. I didn’t care if they were tall or short, white skin or dark. I just like them shapely. Not skinny and not fat, just shapely. And so she calls in this fat da-peng-zi from Hubei, and I damn near tossed a gut full of Hunan food all over the floor. With that, I promptly stood up and left.

I had been meaning to check out the Ming Hao sauna anyway, and managed to find it with the help of some SMS advice from some new guy that has just rejoined the board (hahaha). Now the Ming Hao was another story. I saw 3 lineups of 5 or 6 girls each. There were at least 2 girls that were do-able in each of the lineups. I picked #33 from Guangxi, because she was the best looker in my eyes. Mistake #1: Don’t pick the best looker when you want good service. Pick the one that gives you some good eye contact and happy vibes.

We got into the session after a longer-than-usual bath and lame massage routine. Then she asked me if it was my first time there, and I admitted that it was. Mistake #2: Never tell them that it is your first time, or at least find a way of telling them that you are familiar with the services that should be offered. Well, once she had figured out that I was a first-timer to the Ming Hao, she almost immediately took the little tray of fluids and liquids and put them aside.

After 15 minutes of lame massage, I pointed to the cup of hot water that was still on hand, and told her to get busy and give Raz some head. She complied. When she paused for longer than 5 seconds, I told her to keep giving Raz head until he said stop. I gotta say, her pretty mouth seemed nearly picturesque on my dick. Those renaissance dudes could have painted a real swell picture of that pastoral scene. But there was no other kinky stuff, such as a cat bath, ball licking, or tongue-in-bum action. Why not? See Mistake #2 above.

Next we were doing the dirty deed, and only 1 minute into it she was sternly reminding me that there would only be one pop on the menu, and no more. Mistake #3: If you want a second pop, you must remember to tell them of that expectation before the party starts. Come to think of it, I was uncharacteristically submissive last night. I gotta channel back into my control-freak side.

So after a few minutes of bumping her pretty noggin against the head board, I popped and paused. She promptly yanked me out, and showered. Five minutes later she was dressed. This was 60 minutes into what should be a 90-minute session. I was bored with her attitude by that time, so I figured fuck it and dressed to leave. And yes, just like OAH said, I didn’t bother with complaining to the manager. In fact, OAH hits the nail on the head on every one of his points.

So there you have it. My best advice to all of you who seek the best service that you can get at a sauna is to do as I say, not as I do. Feel free to learn from my mistakes.

RazRaz,

How much did you pay for the services?

Thanks.

Regards,

Waterfish

[One Eyed Monger]

Thanks for the replies and answers! It is much appreciated. I'm in HK but have been itching to ferry over to Zhuhai so once I get over there I'll definitely post up a good report for everyone.

Cheers,

OEM

[RasSpewtin]

I have a couple of interesting experiences to relate from the last week here in Zhuhai. They were on opposite ends of the GFE scale. As GFE as was the first experience, the second was equally EBE (yes, that’s a new acronym for Evil BIATCH Experience).

Now the DMY may be the McDonald’s of saunas in Zhuhai, but even Ronnie McD gets it right sometimes. Case in point: world class French fries. This was actually the second time that I had a really good GFE in DMY, and also the better of the two: world class ass.

This girl was not only cute, she also had a nice tight round bum that is somewhat unusual for Chinese girls. When she saw me place two condoms on the bed table, she asked if I intended to go for 2 rounds. I replied that I would like to, yes. To that she smiled and said “no problem”. I was in lust. She was really enthusiastic about the session, and absolutely knew how to build up a guy’s ego. Whether or not it was an act is not the point; the point is that it was convincing enough to make the time really enjoyable.

After the first pop, I rested for a bit. Normally, the sauna girls are quite content to let you rest, because they would rather that one pop was the only pop. Then she asked how many times I could really do it in one session. I admitted that although I can often manage two or occasionally three in an all-nighter, I rarely yielded a maximum of two in a 90-minute sauna session. She asked me what it would take for me to get it up again, because she wanted more. This was more than unusual to me for Chinese girls. I mean Thai girls, sure. They will often encourage you to go another round. But this girl was truly rare for a working girl in China. Truly first class Zhuhai ass.

But the second experience with the EBE (Evil BIATCH Experience) made the balance tip back towards the center. Sunday afternoons have some eye candy at LHL these days, even if the numbers of talent are 10 to 20 at peak afternoon times. The scene can be comical these days. The girls walk up and down past the row of umbrella bars, looking for prey. Then the motorcycle cop is be seen by one girl, and as if by some form of telepathy, they all instantly darted for cover in unison. Then a couple of minutes pass, and then all reappear, only to have the cycle repeat.

For some reason today, they only approached the Hong Kong guys at the umbrella bars, and I did not see one approach a lao wai. I should have taken this as a harbinger of things to come, but I was somewhat clueless at the time, perhaps because of the Deadly Sperm Buildup Retention Disorder (DSBRD) that I had developed. I picked one that seemed to not have a problem going with a lao wai, and back to the hotel we went.

Her service was scripted, mechanical, but pleasant nonetheless, owing mostly to the fact that she looked really nice naked. After an admittedly brief session in which I was able to cure my DSRBD in an embarrassingly short 30 minutes, we returned to the shower to wash our respective naughty bits. I placed the requisite 200 RMB plus 20 for the cab next to her purse.

As she returned from the shower, she freaked and told me that she always charged 300 for foreigners. Stupid me, I tried to use logic to explain to her that it was always 200 for an hour with an LHL girl, and gosh golly gee this was only half an hour. After 10 minutes of listening to her BIATCH and moan and call me a huai dan (bad egg), I told her to kuai zou. She understood the polite way of saying “get the fuck out of here” and then did just that, calling me huai dan all the way out the door. Ah well, love was fun while love lasted.

And so ends another week in Zhuhai. From GFE to EFE, they are all to be found here. Even if you are a bad egg.

Raz

[Donjuan0514]

Hey all, just spent the weekend RTFF, while I'm in ZH.

I'm one of those guys whose afraid to take a dip until I know exactly how deep and how cold the water is.

I think I've forgotten more than I remember, there's soooo much information from 2002 till now.

I'm a Pattaya guy. So I'd like to know, from those of you ZH guys that have spent time in Pattaya, how all of you feel about Pattaya girls versus ZH girls in terms of GFE?

I like Patts alot because of the amount of GFE's I come across, can the same be said about ZH girls? I've read lots about pricing, location, type of service and looks, but very little about GFE types.

Anyway myself and another Patts expat are thinking of dropping into ZH for a weekend in October.

I've got names and location of saunas jotted down, with DMY as a must see. Looking forward to comparing a Chinese Sauna with a Pattaya Soapy Massage.

And it seems to me that LHL short time is gonna run 200 to 300 for my Laowai friend and 150 to 200 for myself (ABC that speaks Mandarin).

Would like to hit the BBS run by the Papasan in Xiang Zhuo that JK reported on, but wondering on the logistics of getting the girls to our hotels
way back in the Gongbei area.

In anycase, if the trip turns out good, the two of us might become ZH regulars, given that it's just a 3 hour flight and less than US$200 R/T airfare. It'd be like a weekend trip on Southwest, but with the ladies being 10x cheaper than Vegas.

[Santa]

I'm a Pattaya guy. So I'd like to know, from those of you ZH guys that have spent time in Pattaya, how all of you feel about Pattaya girls versus ZH girls in terms of GFE?

I like Patts alot because of the amount of GFE's I come across, can the same be said about ZH girls?

And it seems to me that LHL short time is gonna run 200 to 300 for my Laowai friend and 150 to 200 for myself (ABC that speaks Mandarin).
.

These ZH girls generally do not want to hangout and be your girlfriend. It's all business and they want quick tricks. Since you are a mandarin speaking ABC you might have better success in the GFE area.

Pattaya girls like to sit with the guys and horse around. ZH girls do not.

The Laowai price was also 200, but that has been ruined by others. If your friend try's to negotiate the price down he may get bad service. It might be better if you do the negotiating for him. As Raspewtin's post shows, many girls in ZH prefer asian guys and now expect lao wais to pay more.

Has Johnny stopped posting?

[RasSpewtin]

DonJuan:

I am in ZH now, have spent several weeks in ZH thus far this year, and coincidentally did go to Pattaya after my previous trip to ZH last month. There is no doubt for me that your chances of finding GFE in Pattaya are far greater than in ZH for the average guy.

During last month’s trip to Pattaya I did the unthinkable, and had the same girl for the entire week. Never done that before in Patts, but she was so much fun and such a great girl that I just couldn’t get enough of her. I have never had anything remotely close to her here in Zhuhai, although I have in Shenzhen.

I find that the key challenge in ZH for me is the language. I speak so-so Chinese, and very few girls here speak English. However, if you are fluent in Mandarin, ZH could be a very different experience from my own.

But even at that, there are some comparisons that still make Pattaya a better bet for GFE. ZH is most noted for the saunas; they are plentiful. But your chances of a GFE that can meet you outside of her sauna work for extracurricular activities would be slim in my opinion. The LHL girls are cold and distance in my experience, and their service and attitude sucks. I hear that KTV girls can be GFE at times, but they are money sponges one and all. You won’t find anything even close to the fun and easy-going Pattaya beer bar girl here.

But you might find a good GFE experience with a local non-working girl. You’d need to invest some time to get her to that point, and I’m not sure that you want to spend your precious vacation time on trying to warm a girl up. But if you are fluent in the language, who knows?

I was you and had the choice, I would choose to spend more time in CP and just a couple of days or so in ZH. CP has lots of fun girls, and the price is always right. And failing that, Pattaya is still the best anywhere.

Raz

[Santa]

Most of the Pattaya girls speak english and they enjoy hanging out. They hope to find a sugar daddy who will take care of them, or a sucker that will keep sending them money.

The Zhuhai girls, and most chinese hookers everywhere in China, are strictly business ladies. They fuck you, suck you only if they must, grab the money and run. You need to have the same attitude when dealing with them. It's not always like that, but most of the time it is.

But as Ras says, if you are really fluent in chinese then maybe it's different.

That's how I see it, but I'm ok with it. Just fuck 'em and say bye bye!

I also think many of the Pattaya girls are ugly and worn out. Over-the-hill-gang. Many of the chinese girls are cute and fresh. But for most of them we are just atm machines.

[Donjuan0514]

Hey guys, thanks for confirming what I was seeing in ZH.

Before going to Pattaya I had my experiences with Chinese girls (pros) back in the states. At the time I thought it was WAY better than American pros, until I got to Patts. Now I'm sold on Patts and really can't see myself enjoying this hobby more than in Patts.

But as Santa put it, in terms of looks Isaan girls don't stand a chance when put next to their Chinese counterparts.

But so long as their affectionate in the bedroom that'll do it for me. Don't need them to hang around or stuff. If they're smart enough to read the various customer types, and what each of us likes. I'll still enjoy it.

In anycase appreciate the response and answers to my question.

BTW - It is entirely possible to find some seriously hot looking girls here, but they're usually quite busy (a customer 5 days a week) or rather pricey (400-500 RMB for the whole night).

[GreenHornet]

Dear bros,

Me and some friends are coming over to Zhu Hai & Macau for some guys fun in mid-September. Need some advise from you fellow bros the recomended saunas to visit where we can hv some action as well. :)

What are the normal charges like? IS there any extra charge for 2 shots? I once been to Dongguan where the session is 2 hrs and you can do the girls as many times you want. I dunno if its the same here.

Your advise and recommendation is much appreciated.

[Chung 2]

Dear bros,

Me and some friends are coming over to Zhu Hai & Macau for some guys fun in mid-September. Need some advise from you fellow bros the recomended saunas to visit where we can hv some action as well. :)

What are the normal charges like? IS there any extra charge for 2 shots? I once been to Dongguan where the session is 2 hrs and you can do the girls as many times you want. I dunno if its the same here.

Your advise and recommendation is much appreciated.Can contact me, got few nice place will recommend you. cheap and reasonable.

[Bill Lee]

Can contact me, got few nice place will recommend you. cheap and reasonable.

Why do you even bother telling this newbie to contact you for "few nice place"? You and GreenHornet don't have PM function.

C2, why don't you just answer him now with all the nice places?

GreenHornet, if you Read the Forum First, you wouldn't have to ask.

Bill

[Macho Dik]

dear fellow mongers,

i need some of your kind guide on my questions about how to get to hsia chuan tao "下川島" from hong kong.

i will be traveling to hong kong and i understand there is a turbo jet boat that travel the hkia to nacau but from macau i can not remeber how and what is teh best and fastest way for me to take to reached hsia chuan tao "下川島". i want to take either speed boat or bus but i am hesistating to take those personal taxi that i am not sure if they will bring somewhere else to rob.

please provise your kind advises and also give me some more idea how and what is the damage for those actions girls in that island.

thanks

md

[Tiger 888]

dear fellow mongers,

i need some of your kind guide on my questions about how to get to hsia chuan tao "下川島" from hong kong.

i will be traveling to hong kong and i understand there is a turbo jet boat that travel the hkia to nacau but from macau i can not remeber how and what is teh best and fastest way for me to take to reached hsia chuan tao "下川島". i want to take either speed boat or bus but i am hesistating to take those personal taxi that i am not sure if they will bring somewhere else to rob.

please provise your kind advises and also give me some more idea how and what is the damage for those actions girls in that island.

thanks

mdi found the following:
http://www.taishan.com/english/tour/island.htm

it does not look like too muc of a mongering destination to me any more.
hopefully i am wrong.

there are tours from shenzhen for 2 days, taking a 4 hour bus ride to tai shan and then the boat to xia chuan.
http://www.sztour.cn/way/show.asp?id=159

by the way, since the destination is in the prc it woud be much clearer if you used proper pinyin. (the way you wrote it it looks to me that you are taiwanese).

[Tiger 888]

I found a very interresting site for checking bus connections.

There is a bus at 8 am from Zhuhai to Tai Shan Guang Hai for 18 RMB.
No English, sorry.

http://www.checi.cn/

A little google does miracles.

here you can find all the citybus routes in major cities with their stops named.
http://www.checi.cn/gongjiao.html

[GreenHornet]

Why do you even bother telling this newbie to contact you for "few nice place"? You and GreenHornet don't have PM function.

C2, why don't you just answer him now with all the nice places?

GreenHornet, if you Read the Forum First, you wouldn't have to ask.

BillBro C2,

Thank you for trying to be helpful. Like bro Bill mentioned, I can't PM you, so I will first go through the posting before asking further.

Bro Bill, thanks for the advise.

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Hi GreenHornet,

Are you suggesting that a sophisticated world traveler such as yourself can't afford a $13 subscription to support this forum and all the work I do to keep it maintained?

Come on dude, a forum subscription is less than 50 cents a week.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Derim]

Had some very good and very bad experiences in Zhuhai.

DMY:

Picked a decent looking girl from the second lineup, we undress and she says "you too big pick another girl" and basically runs away. I pick another girl based on looks (I know that I'm supposed to pick a girl that gives me some kind of contact, but it's hard to do when all girls are staring blankly at the wall...), the girl was clearly dissatisfied that I picked her and provided very lousy service. After a quick catbath she pulled out a vibrator and asked me if I wanted that, when I said no she skipped whole AR part. Fire&ice BBBJs lasted maybe 20 seconds per liquid. Everything was over in maybe 25-30minutes and she was ready to leave. Following advice given here, I took her card, started to pointing to different things and asked more, however it was difficult since she spoke only few words of english, she didn't want to do second round either (you too big blahblahblah). After much arguing (and making a big deal of writing her number down) she relucantly agreed to a second round of quick & lousy BBBJs and sex (only in missionary position). Afterwards I tried to complain about her services to the management, don't know if that made any difference since management spoke only a little of english.

Despite such bad experience, I deciced to try DMY for a second time. From the second lineup found a passable looking girl that smiled a little at me, and she gave me a totally different experience! First, she pulled out her card herself and started to explain different things there (in Chinese so I couldn't understand). Then she gave me a short body massage (including eye massage with a nipple), catbath, nice AR and very nice BBBJs. Everything was done without hurry. She enjoyed herself during first round and was ready for a second round. Very friendly and good service! Terrific value for a 160rmb eventhough she wasn't good looking.

Some other sauna experiences: Yi Hai Lou hotel in Jida has a sauna on the 4th floor for 298rmb. Rooms were nice (shower, big bed and mirror on the ceiling) and they had a very cute girl in the lineup. However, service was average and AR was done through the plastic sheet.

Had one bad experience in LHL BBS. I found a BBS with young, very cute girl, we agree at 130rmb price for sex, go inside a room nearby (provided by BBS). Then girl says: no kissing, no fingering and then: "no FS, you too big"!??! I ask for BBBJ, she declines, offering only CBJ or HJ!?!? I try to argue with her, but she still says no (doesn't even want to try), then I had enough, I go to dress, the girl runs to the window, shouts for a mamasan, I don't know what's going on so I'm slow to react, mamasan storms in, locks the door and demands 30rmb for the "massage"! I try to argue that we agreed on sex, and since girl isn't willing to provide sex I shouldn't pay anything, eventually she accepts 10rmb and she lets me go.

Later I found another BBS in the LHL area with a young, very cute girl. Service was average, but at least she gave me FS for 130rmb without issues.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Superforce99]

Derim's experiences remind me again how A) having a large cock and B) having a larger, more muscular body are
worth significantly less in China than in western countries. I would even go as far as to say having "A" is a bit troublesome
in China while "B" is of limited advantage. I can't say much about A, but B is from my personal experience where girls may like
a nicer looking body, but if your wallet is muscular, that's more desirable.

******

Also, I wanted to post that I've notice a significantly large number of new gals working at the infamous DMY in recent visits.
I don't think I recognized more than 2-3 gals from my last visit 2-3 months ago, which is more a good thing than a bad thing.
Also, noticed that a lot of the girls offer bareback FS than before, or it's just my bad/good luck to choose those that do.

A couple of new saunas opened up in the Xiangzhou area nearby the JUSCO, too. My favorite is one that offers a 268 RMB deal for
standard 90 minutes of service similar to DMY. Two pops are the usual but not necessarily guaranteed, so just make sure
with the gal first. This one is somewhat behind the "One Hundred Percent Mall" down the street from JUSCO. Once you get
to this mall, search the alleys running perpendicular to the mall. It's the only sauna in this general area so it's hard to miss,
especially at night when it's all lit up. It is located on the second floor.


J

[Phil1980]

Hi,

I have been in Zhuhai for several days. The hookers here are the prettiest I have seen in China and the going rate is 200 RMB ST. The only problem is that many of them don't seem to care for Western foreigners. They prefer the Taiwanese. Or maybe they just don't like ME, who knows. E.g. one of them called me "wai lao" on the street, another threatened to kill me, if I didn't tip her "ruguo ni bu gei xiaofei wo you banfa si ni" or something like that. This is a pretty girl from Shandong with silicone breasts, who hangs around the same bar street area every evening chatting up men.

Anyway, this city is great in my opinion. In my experience in smaller Chinese cities most of the girls are basically fresh from the countryside, they refuse to give blowjobs, want to switch off the light during sex etc., here most of the girls appear very professional by comparison. I have had anal intercourse for the first time in my life here, for that she wanted a 100 RMB tip.

[Phil1980]

Oh, one more thing, many guys here seem to enjoy fucking without condoms. I also had one girl from Chongqing who said she didn't carry condoms! I assume I'm not the first guy she did without, I didn't even ask her for it. I wonder if I have some disease now.

[Crazier]

Oh, one more thing, many guys here seem to enjoy fucking without condoms. I also had one girl from Chongqing who said she didn't carry condoms! I assume I'm not the first guy she did without, I didn't even ask her for it. I wonder if I have some disease now.

No need to wonder, go get tested!

And if you do have something bad, you deserve it too!

BTW, BB anal sex has a higher chance of HIV than normal sex ! Ask Freddie Mercury about that!

[Weelock]

Oh, one more thing, many guys here seem to enjoy fucking without condoms. I also had one girl from Chongqing who said she didn't carry condoms! I assume I'm not the first guy she did without, I didn't even ask her for it. I wonder if I have some disease now.

How do you know many guys do it without condoms because working girls do NOT carry them? One of the main reason they do NOT carry condoms is being caught with them by the police. If you have not notice some hotels have them in their rooms for emergencies. Is this true in the USA? If there are not in the hotels, condoms can be found in all 24 hr convenience stores like 7-11.

I strongly agree with “Crazier”. Sorry for preaching but you should know better than an uneducated poor farm girl. When I read a post about going bareback, I think about the German guy in Thailand who got AIDS. He then paid girls extra to go bareback to get even, knowing he had AIDS. The guy’s dead now. It's estimate he had sex with over 500 girls. I also wanted to find the old pictures of a working girl with genital warts by “Cronin” to show you but I can’t find them. I was hoping to scare you with the gross out pictures.

[Phil1980]

One of the main reason they do NOT carry condoms is being caught with them by the police. If you have not notice some hotels have them in their rooms for emergencies. Is this true in the USA? If there are not in the hotel, condoms are in all 24 hr convenience stores like 7-11. How do you know many guys in China do it without a condom because she doesn't carry them?

I strongly agree with “Crazier”. Sorry for preaching but you should know better than an uneducated poor farm girl. When I read a post about going bareback, I think about the German guy in Thailand who got AIDS. He then paid girls to go bareback to get even, knowing he had AIDS. The guy’s dead now. I want to find the old pictures of a working girl with genital warts by “Cronin” to show you but I can’t find them.



Is "I was drunk" an excuse?

[Owl_]

My Hong Kong friends tell me that most all the working girls in ZhuHai are from inland China so they speak mainly Mandarin. The Taiwanese also speak Mandarin so there no communication loss between the working girls and the Taiwanese. This is one reason they get along because they speak the same dialect of Chinese. Where as most Southern China Chinese speak Cantonese and these girls have almost no knowledge of the English language. My Hong Kong friends knows both Cantonese and Mandarin so we were able to get along with girls using his as a translator.


Hi,

I have been in Zhuhai for several days. The hookers here are the prettiest I have seen in China and the going rate is 200 RMB ST. The only problem is that many of them don't seem to care for Western foreigners. They prefer the Taiwanese. Or maybe they just don't like ME, who knows. E.g. one of them called me "wai lao" on the street, another threatened to kill me, if I didn't tip her "ruguo ni bu gei xiaofei wo you banfa si ni" or something like that. This is a pretty girl from Shandong with silicone breasts, who hangs around the same bar street area every evening chatting up men.

Anyway, this city is great in my opinion. In my experience in smaller Chinese cities most of the girls are basically fresh from the countryside, they refuse to give blowjobs, want to switch off the light during sex etc., here most of the girls appear very professional by comparison. I have had anal intercourse for the first time in my life here, for that she wanted a 100 RMB tip.

[Crazier]

Is "I was drunk" an excuse?


This is not high school my friend, its your life and do as you like ya!

I have close friends who think its safer than crossing the road and it's their choice.

Me, too much have happened for me and I am older and perhaps, wiser!

JUst think of the young girls who you are perhaps victimizing as you expose yourself for the incremental pleasure!

All in the mind man!

[ABCinLA]

Boy the sauna in the Jin Yu Hotel has gone down big time from what I remembered earlier in the year. I think they use to provide a table wash inside the shower area now they just give you a shower. Overall really rushed service by red dress number 30 made me want to leave the room after only 20 to 25 minutes or so. Also girl count on Lotus Road seems down more from a few months ago.

[ABCinLA]

Went to Chang An New World Sauna, it was ok but overall level of service was lower than before. Got a very petite cutie "8 plus". But I remembered how I use to boast about how the service level was higher than Macau. Of course its only 338 with the 50 discount coupon. Have not got an AR yet plus a covered BJ from the cutie but she was friendly. I stand corrected on the street action as it does pick up quite a bit after 10pm. We were eyeing one hottie from one of the second story restuarants on Lotus Road whom my newbie friend found very attractive and when we went down she came up to me. I then proceeded to say in English my friend likes you alot. Thereby she says "NO" and took off. He is a fellow ABC so we figured it was either the English or he looked liked an undercover cop.

[Superforce99]

Yeah, the weird thing was about 1-2 months ago, the ZH government decided
to ban all shower beds from sauna establishments because it was a sign of
"immoral activities" or something totally ridiculous like that. The sauna gals were
laughing when I asked them about it. So, go and look in most of the saunas in
Gongbei and you'll see the shower beds are gone. The girls now usually just
wash you while you are standing up. And yes, most girls are delighted that they
no longer have to provide breast washing for the clients, ha...

LHL has no real dependable schedule so some days it is very crowded with WGs,
like Saturday early afternoon from 4-6pm, but sometimes, it is almost barren,
like Sunday night 9-11pm. If you live nearby, the best thing to do it take frequent
walks down LHL and make agressive eye contact with a gal you like and get her
telephone number for later.


J






Boy the sauna in the Jin Yu Hotel has gone down big time from what I remembered earlier in the year. I think they use to provide a table wash inside the shower area now they just give you a shower. Overall really rushed service by red dress number 30 made me want to leave the room after only 20 to 25 minutes or so. Also girl count on Lotus Road seems down more from a few months ago.

[ABCinLA]

Finally met up with Johnny (this man needs a touch football league) who was very gracious to show my friend and I other saunas outside of the Lotus Road area. My friend took one at DMY I wanted to take one but she got taken by someone else when I waited a minute too long. We did go over to Jun Hao hotel which was 538 or so. Didn't take one as I had a real cutie at Chang An Good World earlier in the day and all didn't look better. Plus I wanted to try a SW.

Well after meeting up with my cop looking friend later we proceeded to walk up and down Lotus Road. Only one approached me. Did talk to a older male pimp who offered to get me a girl to my specifications. Well since I had the cop with me I figured we could get out of a tight situation even in an apartment. Well he just phones them over right on Lotus; when I found one to my liking he mentions 200. I assumed he meant that was the total price but it was his fee on top of the girl charge of 200. The SW (cute petite 18; 7.75) verified this in the elevator on the way to my hotel room. I said no way max would be 200 or she doesn't get into the room. Well she agreed to it. I need a good long BBBJ after that hassle which she provided. Saw the pimp again on the street later that night and he didn't mention anything to me. BTW alot of SWs then started to attack my friend as the word got out that he wasn't undercover.

[Superforce99]

...Well since I had the cop with me I figured we could get out of a tight situation even in an apartment.


Ha ha ha...dude, I hope to hell you are joking about this because there is no way in
hell that your friend looking like a cop (and only in passing if even that) would get
you out of any serious jam. The only advice I have for you is to not get into serious situations
in the first place. And if you do, just pay up, chalk up your losses, and learn from any
mistakes. The mafia is wide-ranging and deep in Zhuhai, so don't be a badass...

It was good meeting up with you and your "cop" buddy, you should have let me know
you wanted SWs, too, I have about a half dozen on call including some semi-pro factory gals
if you are interested.



...proceeded to say in English my friend likes you alot.

This may shock you, but the LHL gals have no interest whatsoever in you liking them,
engaging in English chit-chat, or anything besides turning the most number tricks. Just
say, "Zhou ba?" (Chinese for "let's go" ie. "let's go fuck"). Add in the "Liang ba kuai ba?"
(Chinese for "200 RMB, right?") Sorry to burst your romantic visions, ha...in fact in
general, I've found the ones most friendly on the street usually give the most mediocre
service but they are also the ones who improve the most with repeat sessions.


J

[Daved35]

Hi Johnny,

Can you give me your email as I need some advice in relation to a Zhuhai situation?

Thanks in Advance


Ha ha ha. Dude, I hope to hell you are joking about this because there is no way in hell that your friend looking like a cop (and only in passing if even that) would get you out of any serious jam. The only advice I have for you is to not get into serious situations in the first place. And if you do, just pay up, chalk up your losses, and learn from any mistakes. The mafia is wide-ranging and deep in Zhuhai, so don't be a badass.

It was good meeting up with you and your "cop" buddy, you should have let me know you wanted SWs, too, I have about a half dozen on call including some semi-pro factory gals if you are interested.

This may shock you, but the LHL gals have no interest whatsoever in you liking them, engaging in English chit-chat, or anything besides turning the most number tricks. Just say, "Zhou ba? " (Chinese for "let's go" ie. "let's go fuck"). Add in the "Liang ba kuai ba? " (Chinese for "200 RMB, right? ") Sorry to burst your romantic visions, ha. In fact in general, I've found the ones most friendly on the street usually give the most mediocre service but they are also the ones who improve the most with repeat sessions.

J

[Bill Lee]

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Unless you're a paid member and have Personal Message, you're on your own. Or you post your questions openly on the board.

Bill



Hi Johnny,

Can you give me your email as I need some advice in relation to a Zhuhai situation?

Thanks in Advance

[Phil1980]

Has anyone else here had a girl from Jilin called "Ke'er" 可儿 who walks the streets in Gongbei in Zhuhai?

[Superforce99]

Hey Phil,

It's better to include a physical description because the majority of the gals on or near LHL use multiple names, depending on the customer/day/mood, whatever, so it is kind of difficult to identify Ms. "Ke'er"? .

Also, you asked the question about LHL gals on another part of the board, and definately YES, they ALL have pimps. The only "true" freelancers you'll find are in the discos (and they are not always true freelancers either) or talking a massage gal to go home with you for a fee. I guess you could use your silky-smooth "can I have your number" mobile phone move here. Or not, ha ha.

If you notice all the 20-30 year old guys along the edge of LHL, those are the "street soliders" who patrol certain designated areas on LHL, acting as lookouts/spotting customers for the gals/resolving trouble. These guys report to an area boss that is usually in one of the nearby restaurants playing cards or drinking tea. This guy reports to a bigger boss usually not in the area at all. And yes, these girls are on LHL to make money, so they'll be there anytime from as early as 6AM to as late as 4AM. The more popular ones can pull 8-10 customers per day. Many of them hate the job, ofcourse, but my take is if you are unsettled by their situation, don't expose yourself to the whole situation by drinking coffee/beer on LHL or fucking these gals. A majority of these gals are using prostitution as a way to earn quick money and will tell you all sorts of lies to make you think otherwise. It's true that there are a few who are were tricked into it and working unwillingly, but much more rare than you would assume.

Bill,

Thanks again for reminding me why you are the "grouchy Uncle Billcey of ISG", ha ha. Jackson should give you a banana or bowl of mashed potatoes (anyone who has worked in a retirement or convalescent home should be smiling).

J

[Phil1980]

Hey Phil,

It's better to include a physical description because the majority of the gals on or near LHL use multiple names, depending on the customer/day/mood, whatever, so it is kind of difficult to identify Ms. "Ke'er" 可儿.

JShe claims to be 19 years old, slim figure, long hair, I just liked her service and wondered what others thought. She usually stands in front of a shop in what I think is called the Shuiwan Road (same road where the Gongbei Hotel is located) and chats up men there at night, if you walk by.

I have a video of the two of us having sex, I just feel a bit uncomfortable uploading that kind of stuff.

If you look at this map
http://www.holidaycity.com/nanyang-seascape-zhuhai/map.gif
she walks the streets about where the Nanyang seascape hotel is located up to the corner of the Yue Hai Dong road.

[Kevin H]

Hi All,

I was in Macau, figured dropped by ZhuHai to try those infamous saunas. I was walking over LHL and could not find Emerald nor DMY.

Would anyone be so find to let me the address of these saunas?

What are the chinese names for these sauna?

Thanks in advance.

I will sure write report for others' reference once I get to visit these places.

[Eazy Guy]

dear bros out there, is HKD accepted in ZH? need to clarify as I am leaving HK on coming wed and going to ZH before HangZhou. thanks~

eg

[Fast Eddie 48]

She claims to be 19 years old, slim figure, long hair, I just liked her service and wondered what others thought. She usually stands in front of a shop in what I think is called the Shuiwan Road (same road where the Gongbei Hotel is located) and chats up men there at night, if you walk by.

I have a video of the two of us having sex, I just feel a bit uncomfortable uploading that kind of stuff.

If you look at this map
http://www.holidaycity.com/nanyang-seascape-zhuhai/map.gif
she walks the streets about where the Nanyang seascape hotel is located up to the corner of the Yue Hai Dong road.To Phil 1980,

Most girl work in Zhu hai don't stay long I think you looking for a needle in a hay stake , no picture and I don't know why you did not give her cell phone if you want to stay in touch she is long gone by now .

Fast eddie 48

[Tiger 888]

dear bros out there, is HKD accepted in ZH? need to clarify as I am leaving HK on coming wed and going to ZH before HangZhou. thanks~

eg
Ratewise you will be better off to change RMB in Hong Kong.
I will answer you in the Hong Kong forum with directions how to change.

[Phil1980]

To Phil 1980,

Most girl work in Zhu hai don't stay long I think you looking for a needle in a hay stake , no picture and I don't know why you did not give her cell phone if you want to stay in touch she is long gone by now .

Fast eddie 48


I have her cell phone number, and I had her only 4 days ago or so, so I doubt she's gone. I liked her service, because I think she's pretty and she gave me BBBJ and let me do her on camera without asking for any tip, total price only 200. Also, she was pretty wild in bed, wonder whether she takes drugs to be that way?

I regret not having asked her for her QQ number, however, since she may change her cell phone number when moving to another location. Also, I would have liked to chat with her, since I never talked to a Chinese prostitute on a personal level so far, like ask her why she does this work, when she began etc.

Oh well, such is life, at least I have the memory on video camera.

[Kef321]

Hey guys, I'm coming back to ZH after a 3 month rest back here in the states! First I'll be stopping by BKK for a week and then I'm coming to ZH on Oct 5th for the staying for the most of the week before journeying to CP.

Question, what is the best way/fastest to go from ZH get to CP? My options are Taxi/Bus/Taxi, Taxi/Ferry to SZ/Taxi, or Taxi - in order of expense. How much would a Taxi ride be from ZH to CP?

In CP, I'll be staying at the Hui Hua International Hotel with a couple of bros fromhere. You're welcome to join me.

[Weelock]

Hey guys, I'm coming back to ZH after a 3 month rest back here in the states! First I'll be stopping by BKK for a week and then I'm coming to ZH on Oct 5th for the staying for the most of the week before journeying to CP.

Question, what is the best way/fastest to go from ZH get to CP? My options are Taxi/Bus/Taxi, Taxi/Ferry to SZ/Taxi, or Taxi - in order of expense. How much would a Taxi ride be from ZH to CP?

In CP, I'll be staying at the Hui Hua International Hotel with a couple of bros fromhere. You're welcome to join me.

Around 2 to 3 months ago there was several reports ( posts ) on how to get from Zhuhai to CP. and from Macau to CP. Try doing a search. If you can't find then I will try to find them for you. I even had some maps.

[Weelock]

Sup bro,

I looked before I posted.... the search in this forum sucks because it doesn't take you the page, only the thread.

If you can let me know the best way to CP, I appreciate.

By the way are you still in ZH? I saw/met you last time I was there in LHL, you were with my buddy XXXXX and I was with my XXXXX friend.

I just used the Advance Search function and found some info. You need to learn how to use it. Play around with it. Make sure it checked for "reports" and not for "threads". This is for other newbies also. Sorry for making you an example.

I recall meeting 7-10 guys on LHL, who left without me to a Disco or Bar. I didn't care to go because I was too busy trying to talk with the girls at the cafe.

The fastest way would be take a private car from a hotel. "AG" posted some info on it. Cheapest way is by bus, read my post for info. There were others who left input on transportation from ZH to CP around the same time frame.
If you are with a few people, then the best way is private car. With a few people generally you don't have to worry about, "taken for a ride".


No, I'm not in China now.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=633449&postcount=3370

[ABCinLA]

Hey guys, I'm coming back to ZH after a 3 month rest back here in the states! First I'll be stopping by BKK for a week and then I'm coming to ZH on Oct 5th for the staying for the most of the week before journeying to CP.

Question, what is the best way/fastest to go from ZH get to CP? My options are Taxi/Bus/Taxi, Taxi/Ferry to SZ/Taxi, or Taxi - in order of expense. How much would a Taxi ride be from ZH to CP?

In CP, I'll be staying at the Hui Hua International Hotel with a couple of bros fromhere. You're welcome to join me.

There's a 630on bus from the second level of the large two story underground shopping center right across the Macau border in ZH which will put you right at Hui Mei Hotel and it only costs 60 rmb. The other bus stations are harder to use as they have numerous stops before CP and you end up having to pay at least 20 rmb more to a private van/car to get you to your hotel.

[Manfest]

---cut---
I was walking over LHL and could not find Emerald nor DMY.

Would anyone be so find to let me the address of these saunas?

What are the chinese names for these sauna?

DMY is on Jian Ye Road 5, BeiLing GongBei
telephone 0756-8132233

If you search the thread, you'll find it written in Chinese for you, I cannot replicate it now for some reason.

I have not been to Emerald, but it was described as right next to JUSCO. Find that, and you should be in business.

As promised, please report. Have fun.

[Crazier]

There's a 630on bus from the second level of the large two story underground shopping center right across the Macau border in ZH which will put you right at Hui Mei Hotel and it only costs 60 rmb. The other bus stations are harder to use as they have numerous stops before CP and you end up having to pay at least 20 rmb more to a private van/car to get you to your hotel.

This is the CTS Cross Border Company bus which is superb but its only once a day and last time I used it, was at around 6pm. Best to check latest departure time. For public transport, it is the BEST service between Zhuhai and CP with half full coaches which means comfort for the passenger overall. Takes about 2 hours and 20 minutes most times. You need to buy the ticket ahead of the travel time to ensure that you don't miss the bus esp during peak periods. There is a small ticketing and admin point at the basement level of that shopping centre. Tel: +86 756 8328936

The private taxi ride is normally quoted at 400 rmb one way for a car and 500-600 rmb for an MPV.

If you have a contact of the taxi network people, you can sometimes arrange for a "returning to Dongguan area taxi" for 300 - 350 rmb.

I hate to send you on a wild goose chase try Hua Zai at 13728232318; you need to speak mandarin and also arrange for an appropriate meeting point and give them a local number to call you. A day's advance notice is required. In my experience, there was this guy calling me as I crossed the border at Macau and he was telling me to meet at a hotel which I did not understand and finally, I went to a policeman to talk to the driver and he pointed out to me where to walk! Such times could be stressful if your mandarin is not up to scratch, thus not worth the money saved!

[Iceman2812]

Hi guys, hows things.

I've been back in the UK for 4 months.

What a great time I had. I met up with Kef321 and his friend and my mates in ZH. Here's me on LHL chatting away to one of those lovely girls and he want to ruin it, because the man was jeolous!

But why man, there's so many out there?

But any way. I met a lovely nice 19 year old who was on her first day working on the unbrella stand, so cute (my freebie). Oh my didn't we has a good time. And so did my cool friend Kef321.

We fuck around Zh every night. Went to k bars, saunas, . You name, we did it! We went to DMY, it was wicked, but didn't have many to talent to choose 288 all inclusive was good for money

Do you remember me now Weelok? (I'm Liam)

I've posted a msg awhile back. And I do not bull shit about having 3-4 girls back there.

And I always get my freebies.

Isn't that true Kef321?

Well, I'll be going to ZH again next June, and of you bros like to meet me and Kef321 there?

[Wapec]

Was recently in Zhu Hai and took a bus from the ferry pier to Jusco to see how Emerald compares to my normal haunts in and around GB & LHL. Although described as right next to Jusco it wasn't immediately obvious where that could be since Jusco has a lot of wide open space (frontage, car parking etc). Strolled around but to no avail.

My Mandarin is pretty good (having lived in China long enough to learn) but I don't read characters. Anyway, directions or clues most welcome.

Jin Yu Sauna has always held its own. Its on my regular list and being a regular does improve the service levels in terms of "laoban" recognizing a loyalty customer. Even mret some of the sweeties outside the office on their day off but it takes time to gain their trust for a less controlled situation.

Hope to post an update soon on Emerald.

Many thanks!

W

[Eazy Guy]

Good morning to all bros out there, I was in ZH for 4 days trip since 30th Sept. I would like to say it is a place where mainly for peoples from Macau, Hong Kong and Taiwan but foreigners are welcome, I would like to compare Zhuhai and Hattyai/Danok in Thailand as I had to been both places and found that possibilities of getting girls we like go to hotel with us is very very high, from Saunas, KTVs and on the streets, mainly LHL! I don't want to repeat about those progess that I had for the trip as it would be more or less like what we all are getting from those pretty chicks over the world.

I have stayed in Chang An Holidays for the 1st night but it was not worth the value as it was a bit far away from LHL, taking 12 mins walk is abit lazy for me. Taxi ride? No, those drivers in ZH will not take us during peak hours! But if the hardware is your choice, then this hotel would be taking into consideration. 2nd night I have picked a nearer hotel from LHL, Hong Do Hotel, nothing to say about the hotel as it was about average. 3rd night I have stayed in "Jin Yu" which is just about 3 mins walk to LHL and I will go back to this hotel once I return to ZH. Why? Just because of the setup and also the value of $.

Chang An Holiday (5 Stars) - RMB480 (Breakfast included)
Hong Do Hotel (3 Stars) - RMB330
"Jin Yu" Hotel (3 Stars) - RMB238 (Highly recommended, you won't feel like staying in a 3 stars hotel, just the lifts was abit old)

Basically I had a few girls from LHL and also a few from those chicks in "Tian Di Ren Jian" KTV which is the most happening and must go spot in ZH. Total damage for 4 days 3 night was about RMB6,000! which is very reasonable, right? Anyway, just an idea, if any bros visiting Thailand or China, both places are worth visiting. If I were you, I will visit both places and enjoy over there. ZH, I will be back as soon as possible!

Cheers,
eg

[Phil1980]

Hong Do Hotel (3 Stars) - RMB330




Buddy, may I say that you have been had?

I asked at the Hongdu Hotel myself and they offered me a room for 220 RMB. In Chinese hotels you need to bargain down the price, most hotels will go down 20-30 percent if you haggle with them.

I don't know how your Chinese skills are, but if you can bargain in Chinese you will notice similar results in many hotels that you have when bargaining with the girls.

Also spending 6000 RMB in 3 nights in Zhuhai appears like overkill to me, does that include hotel costs? If it doesn't that amounts to like 20-40 girls, depending on location.

I assume you're one of the foreigners who drive up prices, am I right?

[Eazy Guy]

Phil1980,

I totally agree with you and I am a overseas Chinese. Why the price is damn high on that day because it was the national day for PRC + weekend or maybe they saw my passport so just simply raised the price. If I could enjoy my nights with a lower prices, I think it would be better as I hope to enjoy more nights in ZH. Maybe next time when I plan for my trip, I should get bros in ZH help me out for sourcing. Hey, RMB6,000 could get me about 8-10 girls in SH saunas so with RMB6,000 in ZH could get me 3 girls in KTVs and 6 girls in ZH saunas I would rate it as reasonable.

If I have drive up the prices in ZH, sorry guys, I am new to ZH.

Cheers,
eg

[Wapec]

Folks was wondering if more detailed location guidance could be had for Ming Hao & Emerald Sauna's in Zhuhai ? Best i can figure is that Ming Hao is back of Gongbei bus station (the square plot at the very start of LHL) ; went by Jusco to target Emerald two weeks back and my eyes must be going but it wasn't clear. For Emerald even asked locals for help (my Mandarin is fairly decent).

As for general reports on Jin Yu Sauna this is a regular haunt and quite often I can negotiate an extension on the discount ticket expiry because they know me as a regular. Service tends to improve once you build up the loyalty "brownie" points ; I've even managed LT with some of my favourites after a few in house sessions and they feel safe to venture outside the sauna.

Gals I have a liking for are #3, #33 & #36 ; recently had a session with #52 who was a bit quite until she saddled the pony and thereafter got quite a jockeying. She certainly was energetic in a number of positions and on the 2nd pop slid off ground our bones which kinda dented the experience as the moment was lost. But I would definitely try her again to go the course (also #52 was recommended by one of favourites, #3, that knows my tastes).

Jin Yu is on the upper stretch of LHL past the umbrella bar area and opposite Chang An Great World. Happy lurking.

Thanks for any guidance on the location details above. Will be munching around over the weekend so hope to get a bit closer to the mark.

W

[Superforce99]

Folks was wondering if more detailed location guidance could be had for Ming Hao & Emerald Sauna's in Zhuhai ? Best i can figure is that Ming Hao is back of Gongbei bus station (the square plot at the very start of LHL) ; went by Jusco to target Emerald two weeks back and my eyes must be going but it wasn't clear. For Emerald even asked locals for help (my Mandarin is fairly decent).

W


Min Hao is the Communications Hotel (Jiao Tong Da Sha) behind the Gongbei Bus station.

Emerald is next to Jusco. Don't go to the front door of Jusco, stand on the sidewalk facing Jusco (about 2 minutes walk from the actual Jusco entrance) and then look to your left. That building is Emerald Sauna and Massage. The entrance is near the end of the block. If you get to the KFC, you've gone too far, go back about 15 meters. Sauna on 5 floor, foot/body massage on 4 floor.

** UPATE: I've been told that Emerald Sauna is closed and has moved to the LHL area. The body/foot massage services still available. I haven't personally confirmed any of this info. **

J

[Yelopan]

Spent a quality three days in ZHuhai. Started out staying at the Jihao Imperial Hotel (Imperial Holiday Hotel) which is on the wrong side of the tunnel (opposite Gong bei). The sauna here is first rate and about 438 gets you a nice room and 2. 5 hours of action. They brought in 6 girls for me to choose from and that was at 5:45am. They were 6-9s. I chose a 8 body & face but 9. 5 service. Was from Hubei and quite tall. Did BBJ and multiple positions. Also, had a nice shower session. Girls are not allowed to go back to hotel rooms. I didn't tip her because she gets 300 and the sauna takes 138.

Second night picked up a SW near my new hotel, THe Guangdong Hotel. Sexy as all hell from Dong Bei. She really wanted her friend to join us but I was tired and figured one would be enough. 600 for all night and she stayed from 11 to 7am.

Final night got two girls for all night 800 total. One was from Dong Bei the other was from Inner Mongolia. They were a riot and both about 19 or 20. The inner Mogolian was a solid 9 in everything where as the Dong bei girl was a nice 7 but a 10 for performance. I had to leave early on Wednesday but they wanted to stay we were in the room from about 3am to 11am. Much later than usual.

It being a holiday weekend the selection was down but still had enough girls and very attractive cruising the streets.

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[AquaSponge1]

Min Hao is the Communications Hotel (Jiao Tong Da Sha) behind the Gongbei Bus station.

Emerald is next to Jusco. Don't go to the front door of Jusco, stand on the sidewalk facing Jusco (about 2 minutes walk from the actual Jusco entrance) and then look to your left. That building is Emerald Sauna and Massage. The entrance is near the end of the block. If you get to the KFC, you've gone too far, go back about 15 meters. Sauna on 5 floor, foot/body massage on 4 floor.

** UPATE: I've been told that Emerald Sauna is closed and has moved to the LHL area. The body/foot massage services still available. I haven't personally confirmed any of this info. **

J

Hi JK666,

Glad to see your update that it has closed. I had some fond memories since you introduced me to Emerald Sauna. Look forward to catching with you soon in ZH.

Cheers!
Aqua

[European]

Yesterday I found a nice place where I got a very good oil massage with a great final HJ.

Two hours, 108RMB for the room and the oil (tui you) and 100RMB tip.

If you like a good body massage (not only the pseudo massage of many girls)
go to tis place. I enjoyed #68.

It is the Greenery Hotel, Zhuhai
君悦来酒店
Address
45 Jieda Haibin Nan Road, Zhuhai, China
吉大海滨南路45号

Take the KTV entrance right of the Hotel entrance, inside on the right.

EU

[Bill Lee]

Are you serious? Or does that include the service charge? What was the service charge?

Cause at 100RMB tip, you really know how to screw up the body massage and HJ market for others. Now the big news in that shop is that foreigners tip big. So ask for it.

You are the type of foreigners that we foreigners are worried about. Flaunting your 9.41 Euro dollars around.


Just my opinion.
Bill



Yesterday I found a nice place where I got a very good oil massage with a great final HJ.

Two hours, 108RMB for the room and the oil (tui you) and 100RMB tip.

If you like a good body massage (not only the pseudo massage of many girls)
go to tis place. I enjoyed #68.

It is the Greenery Hotel, Zhuhai
君悦来酒店
Address
45 Jieda Haibin Nan Road, Zhuhai, China
吉大海滨南路45号

Take the KTV entrance right of the Hotel entrance, inside on the right.

EU

[European]

What service charge are you talking about?

When I asked in July about places for a good body massage with HJ
there were posts offered me places for 800RMB, certainly to much.
Actually I did not get any good hint form you.

I don't know what you expect to pay for a professional 2 hour body oil massage including a HJ in a separate room with private shower?

208RMB is maybe not the cheapest offer but quite reasonable.

I am always open to learn so I am looking forward to your proposal for a cheaper and better place.

EU


Are you serious? Or does that include the service charge? What was the service charge?

Cause at 100RMB tip, you really know how to screw up the body massage and HJ market for others. Now the big news in that shop is that stupid foreigners tip big. So ask for it.

You are the type of foreigners that we foreigners are worried about. Flaunting your 9.41 Euro dollars around.


Just my opinion.
Bill

[Manfest]

What service charge are you talking about?

When I asked in July about places for a good body massage with HJ
there were posts offered me places for 800RMB, certainly to much.
Actually I did not get any good hint form you.

I don't know what you expect to pay for a professional 2 hour body oil massage including a HJ in a separate room with private shower?

208RMB is maybe not the cheapest offer but quite reasonable.

I am always open to learn so I am looking forward to your proposal for a cheaper and better place.

EU

There is a wide range in prices, as you know. Here is what you paid:
price = 108 RMB. tip = 100 RMB.

The question is if the 100 extra was a charge for the HJ, or you truly threw in 100 as tip for the whole service. Whatever your own practices and price points are, tipping is not the custom/norm in China.

Examples of pricing (my experience in Shenzhen) are RMB 65-150 for 2 hour full body massage (clean), 35-100 for foot massage AND HJ. Details are fully available on this site if you search.

[Neuromancer]

There is a wide range in prices, as you know. Here is what you paid: Price = 108 RMB. tip = 100 RMB.

The question is if the 100 extra was a charge for the HJ, or you truly threw in 100 as tip for the whole service. Whatever your own practices and price points are, tipping is not the custom/norm in China.

Examples of pricing (my experience in Shenzhen) are RMB 65-150 for 2 hour full body massage (clean), 35-100 for foot massage AND HJ. Details are fully available on this site if you search.Another way of thinking about this, European overpaid 50RMB (about USD6. 75 or EUR5. 40). I understand the concerns of locals who view 50RMB as a lot of money, but lets say I paid you 50RMB/USD6. 75/EUR5. 40 to read the RTFF for me. Would you do it? If you answered yes, then you have every right to complain about European for overpaying. But if you aren't willing to take that 50RMB to RTFF, then.

Whether or not he RTFF is not the point. You could RTFF and find the details you refer to or maybe he can't. Either way, how long would it take him? What search words would you use? "HJ" and "Massage"? How long would it take you to find the exact information you're looking for?

A footie here in HK costs HKD198 in Central, HKD88 on the Kowloon side. A full body "tui you" quite a bit more depending on what sort of place you go to. Personally, I think that RMB208 for a "tui you" with HJ finish is really not such a bad price. Wish there was that option at those prices here in HK.

[Bill Lee]

"Two hours, 108RMB for the room and the oil (tui you) and 100RMB tip."

So you paid 108RMB for the room, oil and the service you got as the 2 hour massage?

For 108RMB, was it already acknowledged to include the HJ? Or was the 108RMB strictly for the room, oil and massage? And you gave her 100RMB for the HJ? I mean, did she winked winked at you and you both agreed on 100RMB for a HJ?

I just find it hard to believe that someone would tip (not as an extra payment) almost 100% of the agreed price in China or anywhere in the world.

Being not tipping is the norm in China and I don't have a problem with tipping in China, I'm more annoyed by foreigners tipping almost 100% of the bill.

This truly ruins the market for all even at the low-end HJ level. I can see the same tipping scale being passed on to the BBS, KTV and SW by the likes of such foreigners.

If you tell me that 100RMB was the agreed price for a HJ, I don't have a problem with that. But to say that 100RMB was tip. That's just something that needs to be heard out on the board.

This is not about RTFF or whether he should tip or not. It's about the tipping scale that he used.

Unless you have money to burn or drunk out of your mind, when did we ever tip $100.00 for a $108.00 meal or bar tab?

Bill


What service charge are you talking about?

When I asked in July about places for a good body massage with HJ
there were posts offered me places for 800RMB, certainly to much.
Actually I did not get any good hint form you.

I don't know what you expect to pay for a professional 2 hour body oil massage including a HJ in a separate room with private shower?

208RMB is maybe not the cheapest offer but quite reasonable.

I am always open to learn so I am looking forward to your proposal for a cheaper and better place.

EU

[Superforce99]

Hmmm...

Maybe I can help settle this. My feeling is that European made a mistake labeling the 100 RMB a "tip" and, instead, should have referred to it as a 100 RMB "additional charge."

I have had two oily body massages in the past 3 days, and the first one was 138 for the 2 hour massage + 100 for the HJ. The second time at another place was 110 + 55 for the HJ. The extra HJ charge was never referred to as a "tip" in word or thought, because the massage girl simply said, "a HJ will be XX RMB extra"...it was not optional and not "I hope you give me a big tip" type of statement.

I usually don't regularly partake in oily body massages except after long flights or intense workouts, but I find the oily body massages in Zhuhai superior to any I've gotten in GZ or SZ or DG because it seems like the girls work on the muscles deeper and harder, whether you are a new or regular customer. They are usually sweating by the end of the massage, ha...

_____


In other news, I've discovered two nice saunas nearby JUSCO to replace the now-confirmed closed Emerald Sauna. I'll write a report after another 1-2 sessions to confirm whether it's worth going, but the first time was decent.


J

[European]

After reading all the related messages I think there is a misunderstanding.

"Tip" is the wrong expression in this case. The 100RMB extra was the agreed price for the HJ. Normally I do not pay tips just for nothing.

In this case it seem 208 was not extremely overpaid. But of course next time
I will consider your experiences (50RMB) in regards of prices for HJ.

By the way Johnny I am interested to get the information regarding the
new places you mentioned and the the place with the "oil massage for 110 + 55 for the HJ".

EU




Hmmm...

Maybe I can help settle this. My feeling is that European made a mistake labeling the 100 RMB a "tip" and, instead, should have referred to it as a 100 RMB "additional charge."

I have had two oily body massages in the past 3 days, and the first one was 138 for the 2 hour massage + 100 for the HJ. The second time at another place was 110 + 55 for the HJ. The extra HJ charge was never referred to as a "tip" in word or thought, because the massage girl simply said, "a HJ will be XX RMB extra"...it was not optional and not "I hope you give me a big tip" type of statement.

I usually don't regularly partake in oily body massages except after long flights or intense workouts, but I find the oily body massages in Zhuhai superior to any I've gotten in GZ or SZ or DG because it seems like the girls work on the muscles deeper and harder, whether you are a new or regular customer. They are usually sweating by the end of the massage, ha...

_____


In other news, I've discovered two nice saunas nearby JUSCO to replace the now-confirmed closed Emerald Sauna. I'll write a report after another 1-2 sessions to confirm whether it's worth going, but the first time was decent.


J

[Superforce99]

Here’s an update regarding the HJ place I mentioned…

Now I’m terrible at giving directions (ask OAH) because I’m more of a visual person, so I can see a clear picture/video in my head about how to go somewhere and my success at helping someone find a place depends on how well I can recreate this pic/video with words, so here goes:

First, we begin at the JUSCO (check past posts for location) and if you are facing the JUSCO, the Emerald Massage (without the sauna now) is to your left. To the left of the massage place is a KFC. Keep walking down the street away from the JUSCO and towards this KFC and then to the end of the block which about 20-30 meters from the KFC. Make a right and go all the way down the street. You should now be facing the ocean and this corner of the street, on the second floor, is the massage place. Great foot massage, decent shower rooms where there are no homoerotic attendant boys trying to give you homoerotic service to get a tip, and, ofcourse, the HJ. Now, regarding the HJ, it’s not as straightforward as in some other places. I chatted with my gal in Chinese for a while, joking and being open with her, got her comfortable, and just kept joking that she kept forgetting to massage my cock. She gave a great oily body massage for the first two hours and was giving an interestingly exciting HJ near the end of the second hour of the massage. Apparently, she isn’t supposed to do it because there was a small window in the door that wasn’t covered, so lots of start/stop HJ action under a towel covering my lower body. She asked if I wanted to add a third hour and I did and she spent the whole hour giving me the start/stop HJ which was a pretty erotic and finally finished by using her body to shield my crotch while she finished. Obviously, you couldn’t just say “body massage and HJ, please” in a place like this. BUT, there are some weird rooms I saw (and she recommended) where there are 1-2 foot massage chairs and then ANOTHER separate room in the back with a body massage bed with a separate door within the room. One of the few places where your friends/gf/wife could be getting a foot massage and you could be getting a BJ/HJ/FS literally in the next room. Again, cost was 55 RMB per hour, so 3 hours x 55 = 165 RMB. She didn’t ask for a tip and I didn’t give one.

************

Now, to add to this, I discovered a new sauna (Mai Hao Sauna 迈濠国际酒店) that actually adds to the jargon we use to describe sauna services…black ropes. Actually black ropes AND bamboo pole…

This sauna has so much shit available in their rooms, there are actually BLACK ropes in addition to the red ropes. Not only that, there are also several cushions to aid in fucking the gal as she goes through all the different positions (at least half a dozen utilizing the ropes), and then another first, a bamboo pole, ha ha (I'll leave it for you to discover how this is actually used...it's pretty funny, actually)…I was laughing when I first walked in the room and saw the setup with all the gear everywhere. The girl (and captain) boasted the gals have a list of 42 services/positions, which is actually about right.

The girls? Well, the first time I went they were decent, not great, about an average girl rating of 6 so I compare that to Jin Yue (I rate an average of 6.0-6.5) and lower than the Chang An Good World (I rate an average of 6.5-7.0). She was good and went through all the services, positions, etc. She was actually pretty tired after going through the whole hanging, sucking, and other steps but was professional about it all. Forgot her name and number but wasn’t bad but also not worth repeating. A side note is that these girls actually give you a semblance of a massage that takes up at least 15 minutes, including arm, leg, and foot massage. It’s not terrible, but when you are naked and she is naked, massage isn’t what I’m after, but that’s me…so if you want to save some time, tell them to cut that out.

Went a second time and the lineup was slightly better but the service was worse. Forgot her name but I think number was 115 or 155. I remember her clearly cause she wore a padded bra which hid the smallest breasts I have ever seen in my life…wow, calling them two mosquito bites would be insulting to mosquito bites. I’m not a breast man at all, but damn, I don’t want a teenage boy’s body either…She was friendly and seemed happy that I told her to cut out the beginning massage part, but she took it to mean cut out everything, I guess. I had to tell her to do each of the 42 steps, and after step 13 (or was it 14?) I just fuck it and fucked her. She seemed naturally into the sex which was nice but it was still annoying that she skipped a lot of the service. Like the gal before, she wasn’t bad, but not worth repeating.

It’s more expensive than other places at 348 RMB for a room with no shower and 388 (?) for a room with a shower. I took the 348 RMB option both times. After my second time, they gave me a club card without asking for one. Apparently, the card is good for 50 RMB off each sauna session.

How to get to this place? Well, once you get to the massage place mentioned above, it is on the same street, just walk down as if you are headed back towards JUSCO. When you get to a large glass-paneled hotel advertising an international buffet at 48 RMB per person (not bad, actually) then it is this hotel’s sauna which is attached to it.

Be warned that this is not nearby Gongbei at all, so if you are visiting/staying in Gongbei, it’s about a 15 minute taxi ride, one way.


J

[European]

Thanks Johnny, your video is great and motivating,

I need to try these places.

EU

[Babaluba]

Hi,
long time ago someone posted here a list of major saunas in zhuhai (about 20 with chinese characters as well).

Although I searched hard I can not find it anymore, maybe it was too long ago. Can someone post it again or pm it to me?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Babaluba

[Tiger 888]

Hi,
long time ago someone posted here a list of major saunas in zhuhai (about 20 with chinese characters as well).

Although I searched hard I can not find it anymore, maybe it was too long ago. Can someone post it again or pm it to me?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Babaluba I don't know why you couldn't find it, I could. Anyway here is the link to Night Dragon's sauna list
440825

[Babaluba]

I don't know why you couldn't find it, I could. Anyway here is the link to Night Dragon's sauna list
440825

thanks a lot tiger, i must be stupid or maybe the hangover from last night ...
b.

[OldAsiaHand]

Most inbound mongers don't seem to get the point. They continue to convert the prices into their home currency e.g. US$ or Euro and find it cheap. This is the fundamental problem. You are in China paying in RMB. Just look at it of equal value and do the math as Bill Lee has suggested, or take it as a percentage. For example, you pay 50 Euro for a pop in FKK in Germany. If the girl asked for 50 Euro more for the same pop, would you agree? This is 100% more!

Contrary to experience posted here, I find that most HJ places that I go to in S. China do not require a tip. It is included in the price of the massage. This certainly applies to SZ, GZ and DG. I have less experience in ZH.

Just my POV.

OAH

[European]

Today I tried the Mai Hao Sauna. It is an interesting place.

I kind of acrobatic fucking. I had a very nice girl from Chongqing
with beautiful tits.

By the way I could not find the first place you mentioned. When I faced the ocean I already arrived at the Mai Hao Hotel. Obviously I missed the place.

Can you give me some info how far from the KFC corner (half way down?)
Is it on the right or the left of the street?

EU




Here’s an update regarding the HJ place I mentioned…

Now I’m terrible at giving directions (ask OAH) because I’m more of a visual person, so I can see a clear picture/video in my head about how to go somewhere and my success at helping someone find a place depends on how well I can recreate this pic/video with words, so here goes:

First, we begin at the JUSCO (check past posts for location) and if you are facing the JUSCO, the Emerald Massage (without the sauna now) is to your left. To the left of the massage place is a KFC. Keep walking down the street away from the JUSCO and towards this KFC and then to the end of the block which about 20-30 meters from the KFC. Make a right and go all the way down the street. You should now be facing the ocean and this corner of the street, on the second floor, is the massage place. Great foot massage, decent shower rooms where there are no homoerotic attendant boys trying to give you homoerotic service to get a tip, and, ofcourse, the HJ. Now, regarding the HJ, it’s not as straightforward as in some other places. I chatted with my gal in Chinese for a while, joking and being open with her, got her comfortable, and just kept joking that she kept forgetting to massage my cock. She gave a great oily body massage for the first two hours and was giving an interestingly exciting HJ near the end of the second hour of the massage. Apparently, she isn’t supposed to do it because there was a small window in the door that wasn’t covered, so lots of start/stop HJ action under a towel covering my lower body. She asked if I wanted to add a third hour and I did and she spent the whole hour giving me the start/stop HJ which was a pretty erotic and finally finished by using her body to shield my crotch while she finished. Obviously, you couldn’t just say “body massage and HJ, please” in a place like this. BUT, there are some weird rooms I saw (and she recommended) where there are 1-2 foot massage chairs and then ANOTHER separate room in the back with a body massage bed with a separate door within the room. One of the few places where your friends/gf/wife could be getting a foot massage and you could be getting a BJ/HJ/FS literally in the next room. Again, cost was 55 RMB per hour, so 3 hours x 55 = 165 RMB. She didn’t ask for a tip and I didn’t give one.

************

Now, to add to this, I discovered a new sauna (Mai Hao Sauna 迈濠国际酒店) that actually adds to the jargon we use to describe sauna services…black ropes. Actually black ropes AND bamboo pole…

This sauna has so much shit available in their rooms, there are actually BLACK ropes in addition to the red ropes. Not only that, there are also several cushions to aid in fucking the gal as she goes through all the different positions (at least half a dozen utilizing the ropes), and then another first, a bamboo pole, ha ha (I'll leave it for you to discover how this is actually used...it's pretty funny, actually)…I was laughing when I first walked in the room and saw the setup with all the gear everywhere. The girl (and captain) boasted the gals have a list of 42 services/positions, which is actually about right.

The girls? Well, the first time I went they were decent, not great, about an average girl rating of 6 so I compare that to Jin Yue (I rate an average of 6.0-6.5) and lower than the Chang An Good World (I rate an average of 6.5-7.0). She was good and went through all the services, positions, etc. She was actually pretty tired after going through the whole hanging, sucking, and other steps but was professional about it all. Forgot her name and number but wasn’t bad but also not worth repeating. A side note is that these girls actually give you a semblance of a massage that takes up at least 15 minutes, including arm, leg, and foot massage. It’s not terrible, but when you are naked and she is naked, massage isn’t what I’m after, but that’s me…so if you want to save some time, tell them to cut that out.

Went a second time and the lineup was slightly better but the service was worse. Forgot her name but I think number was 115 or 155. I remember her clearly cause she wore a padded bra which hid the smallest breasts I have ever seen in my life…wow, calling them two mosquito bites would be insulting to mosquito bites. I’m not a breast man at all, but damn, I don’t want a teenage boy’s body either…She was friendly and seemed happy that I told her to cut out the beginning massage part, but she took it to mean cut out everything, I guess. I had to tell her to do each of the 42 steps, and after step 13 (or was it 14?) I just fuck it and fucked her. She seemed naturally into the sex which was nice but it was still annoying that she skipped a lot of the service. Like the gal before, she wasn’t bad, but not worth repeating.

It’s more expensive than other places at 348 RMB for a room with no shower and 388 (?) for a room with a shower. I took the 348 RMB option both times. After my second time, they gave me a club card without asking for one. Apparently, the card is good for 50 RMB off each sauna session.

How to get to this place? Well, once you get to the massage place mentioned above, it is on the same street, just walk down as if you are headed back towards JUSCO. When you get to a large glass-paneled hotel advertising an international buffet at 48 RMB per person (not bad, actually) then it is this hotel’s sauna which is attached to it.

Be warned that this is not nearby Gongbei at all, so if you are visiting/staying in Gongbei, it’s about a 15 minute taxi ride, one way.


J

[AZN Man]

Johnny and gang, I miss you guys too much and coming for 2 days staying at HongDu. Anyone around?

[Chewy001]

Hey Guys,

I'm new to the forum and wanted to introduce myself. I've actually visted ZH 3 times already. Had a blast in each of the 3 times. I'm actually getting to ZH for my 4th trip on Oct 26. Have been exposed to the action on LHL and wanted to get some recommendations on other forms of action besided LHL. I don't want to resort to my usual girl that works our of Macau. Thanks guys! Maybe I can get to know some of you guys. I know a couple of guys already out in ZH and two girls that work at the coffee bars on LHL.

Chewy

[Frankeee69]

I have searched and searched. Where is Jusco located? I am going to be staying at the GD Regency end of the month.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hey Guys,

I'm new to the forum and wanted to introduce myself. I've actually visted ZH 3 times already. Had a blast in each of the 3 times. I'm actually getting to ZH for my 4th trip on Oct 26. Have been exposed to the action on LHL and wanted to get some recommendations on other forms of action besided LHL. I don't want to resort to my usual girl that works our of Macau. Thanks guys! Maybe I can get to know some of you guys. I know a couple of guys already out in ZH and two girls that work at the coffee bars on LHL.

ChewyTo chewy

I was in Zhu hai during the golden holiday and LHL is dead even after midnight only saw a few girl the disco and KTV have alot of girl but I think the best deal in Zhu hai is the sauna there are so many of them and cost start at 160 rmb to 500 rmb defend on your budget.

There is many thing to do here day trip to Macau, Zhongshan, new ren ming yuan and the hot spring resort and the bar st.

Fast eddie 48

[RasSpewtin]

Most inbound mongers don't seem to get the point.
OAH

OAH, you make a good point here. Some guys fly into southern China, and suddenly feel like millionaires. Dropping 100 RMB tips like they were shitting tea leaves!

I'll never forget your best quote ever, when you heard me claim that I could get a better GFE if I brought a Shenzhen Sha Zui or Jusco girl back to my 5-star hotel room: "You think those girls give a rat's ass about your fancy hotel room and DVD player? They'd rather be playing Mao Jang with their friends in a rat infested bungalow than spending 5 minutes with you in your fancy hotel room watching DVD's while you fuck 'em."

Priceless....

Raz

[Hua Ge]

OAH, you make a good point here. Some guys fly into southern China, and suddenly feel like millionaires. Dropping 100 RMB tips like they were shitting tea leaves!

I'll never forget your best quote ever, when you heard me claim that I could get a better GFE if I brought a Shenzhen Sha Zui or Jusco girl back to my 5-star hotel room: "You think those girls give a rat's ass about your fancy hotel room and DVD player? They'd rather be playing Mao Jang with their friends in a rat infested bungalow than spending 5 minutes with you in your fancy hotel room watching DVD's while you fuck 'em."

Priceless....

RazRaz,

These guys you're referring to ARE indeed millionaires and some even multi millionaires. In kuai kekeke. Perhaps most career globetrotting mongers playing native resident just need to accept the fact that as a destination becomes more well known by general word of mouth it will attract more tourist mongers. Trying to persuade/teach the majority of tourist monger not to convert local currency to home currency is unrealistic and practically impossible; 99. 9% of tourist in general always compare the place they visit to back home; it's as natural as waking up with an erection in the morning or price inflation in a heated market. What is China if not a heated economy.

Perhaps the guy in the 5 star hotel is staying there because HE actually enjoys staying in a nice clean place and watch a DVD while he is fucking his girl and he doesn't give a rats ass if the girl is impressed beause he is paying for everything and this is about him and not the least bit about her. "gfe me if you want a chance at a repeat customer otherwise fuckya and leave ya girl! " hedonism and narcissismin in harmony kekeke

Just reporting an alternate perspective to "Backpacking mongering in China for under 100 kuai. 2004 edition"

Can't just have left wing views reported kekeke

[Santa]

Most inbound mongers don't seem to get the point.


and find it cheap. This is the fundamental problem.

OAH

Did you see in the Shanghai Thread how some twat supposedly (first time in China) paid 3500 rmb for ST with 2 girls from Craigslist.

[Wapec]

this is a follow up to my earlier request for help and directions. dedicated to johnnykon666 with thanks! here is my update after a long and hard weekend's worth of humping and pumping.

first off arrived by ferry and hopped on a bus into gongbei looking for hing hao at jiao tong da sha. bullseye found it on the 2nd floor. nice decor and good selection of keen, nubile, and naughty gals. anyway, took my time chatting as i waited to be shown to my love nest (mostly 6.5-7 range but subjective). i was just lucky arriving to a lobby full of gals. they went indoors to their waiting room but it gave me chance to talk and size up the environment.

a couple of questions from mamasan on my way to the room sets up my requirements and sets expectations. boss lady does well and two line ups later i am settled in with a 21 year old hottie from chongqing (#28). medium build for china (petite if you're not familiar), firm pointy tits, curvy as hell, long hair down to her hips, and very chatty. being my first time at this place i made it clear that i wanted a friendly chatty chick so that i could also gather intel. after all it was also a research session.

process was fairly standard for the sauna scene. strip, shower (with quite a bit of extended nether region hand action - set the tone but well controlled), dry down, and so to bed. it was her first time with a non-asian which was unusual for zh. turns out that she was fairly new in town so goes some way top explain that!

quite a few comments on the size differences between chinese, japanese, malaysian and occidentals. basically, along the lines of the difference between slim tree stems and thick trunks. not the first time i've heard this but sharing for those with less experience of china as helps to explain why there is some reluctance by these gals to taking an extended pounding by a "foreigner". she was, however, quite graphic and descriptive demonstrating perceived size and length differences benchmarking against my manhood ("liang bai jin" ha! ha!). not being nor wishing to become so skilled in measuring my peers i trust in the veracity of her experience.

continuing with fire and ice, more bbbj, bls, ar, lots of touching and stroking (very rhythmic - soft/vigorous etc), some nice fingering of her slit (not particularly hairy more of a soft muff), she seemed responsive and opened a bit more so i fiv'ed (she was moist) and gently matched this with stroking her fov/gsm (she got more moist and eventually quite wet). although we kept talking & joking through the session she was now issuing instructions on speed and pressure the man on the boat was on the high seas. it was a sight to behold watching her hoist her legs up, pull her lips open and lubing up for some three finger action. what an absolute star! she even managed to slurp my cock & balls while she was being fingered. slurp, slurp, slurp, yes burp i popped, slurped in her mouth. by now i was really into it beyond initial expectations and asked was she up for extending another hour which took a quick phone call to arrange not to be disturbed.

bear in mind this all happened against the backdrop of choosing a fairly chatty girl to start with (covered lots of topics not just sex and even got to know her background ; general note taking the time to relate at this level doesn't always work but its always worth trying but you gotta be able to tell if you're being fed a line), the earlier banter in the lobby, and indicating to the mamasan that i was a zh regular and with a good first experience there was good chance of repeat visit (even asked for the loyalty card straight off to show that i knew my way around). i've had such experiences where things just click with the girl and snap into place. usually, though i've been with the girl a couple of times and we both get comfortable before pushing things. never happened on the first visit for p4p !!! wha'd'ya gonna do ? just gotta go with the flow ....

moved on to multiple penetration positions. indicated that the fake groaning wasn't a turn on and if she didn't mind it could be skipped. she mentioned that its part of the training and i explained that i understood but being friends i could ask her to be more relaxed. she smiled and complied: cowgirl, asian cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, ds, mish, and sideways scissors fuck where i shot for the second time and slowly kept going until fully emptied. hot, sweaty, exhausted, and well exercised and that was just her. a little clean up, we both fell back on the bed to catch our breath, kissed and hugged (very gfe by now). satisfied all around!!! talk and cuddle then off for a shower. paid up at the desk - rmb 550 (remember 3 hours). noticed my girl still in lobby sitting in an alcove and was motioned over. she was sitting with two girlfriends starting a gossip session. she introduced me and not forgetting that i was researching it cost nothing but time to chat. not unexpectedly my girl mentions we finished a session. she gets questioned on my size and she proudly pronounces that she is no longer a tree trunk virgin. we all laugh and move on to other subjects. turns out they went shopping together earlier in the day and the other two had just come back from eating. they also come from around the chongqing area so being from back home they have something in common. nice girls, friendly and we could have just been hanging out except for the address. objective achieved and two potentials for my next time listing. i leave saying i was hungry too but would see them again (soon).

went for a bite to eat up the road at a vietnamese joint and take my time watching life and people parade by. now past mid night but i am in no rush still recovering. finish up eating around 1:45am and head over to the jin yue for a sleep over. arrive around 2am, confirm "guoye" and ask my usual contact what's happening. get told that there is a new girl, would i like to try polishing the rough edges and welcome her to the stable ? i am not too sure of myself on the stamina front but the manager assures me that i'll be impressed by the enthusiasm. so i cave in ...... #18 comes in. tall, leggy, slim with blonde highlights and a girlish round face with a big smile. quick shower down (again) and so to bed ..... (again). very good hot/cold bbbj and excellent dato action she moved on to the red ropes. red ropes oral always concentrates the mind and focuses concentration. i confirm that enthusiastic she certainly was giving an excellent vertical bbbj with push ups to add emphasis. being a bit courageous i flipped her around and slipped it in but lost momentum. guess earlier in the evening took its toll and going to completion was going to take a little coaxing.

she swung down off the ropes and asked if i was tired ? nodded yes and she said i worked too much and should rest on the weekend. so polite! anyway, she started some serious bls action and things started looking up after 15 minutes or so. she continued performing a slow and thorough bbbj varying the tempo depending on the tightness in my crotch. she definitely was making me hard but it wasn't driving me anywhere. i communicated this to her but rather than taking this as a cue to retreat it was like i laid down a personal challenge. she latched onto my dick like a limpet, sucking hard and deep, tickling and cradling my nuts in her hand. and combining this with a 360 degrees hj suction combination. the gods were truly smiling on me and after more than 30mins of constant adoration shot number three whimpered forth. it was without doubt the heiicopter 360 degrees suck fuck that hit the spot. bingo - full house! she sucked it up took a mouth of water, spat into side bag, and went back to sucking & licking my shaft dry. she wasn't happy until i was absolutely. completely milked dry. she finished cleaning up, brought out the duvet, kissed me on the cheek and whispered that the manager said she was enthusiastic and giggled. i wouldn't disagree one iota. jin yu has always been a solid performer, looked after me well over time. this is helped by being a regular and one first name basis with most folks there. had a quick shower down and slept through until late morning - rmb 290 (after loyalty discount).

wandered out into the light of day. dire need of a coffee. swiftly followed by lunch and a lazy hour or two in a lhl coffee shop. about 5pm decide its time to head towards jusco to check out johnnykon666 review of mai hao. hop on bus #2 (#99 also heads this way) from the gongbei gate bus stop. hop off at jusco (been here before) head down towards the sea (jk666 is visual but i get the general direction) and hunt about a while until i find the entrance. walked back into the hotel lift and sent to the sauna floor. still feeling the strains from the night before i appreciated the steam room and rest areas. its the mileage not the years! order a light snack for my evening meal. doze off. left undisturbed. around 8pm'ish get shown to a room for my massage. whoa! what a room .... shaped cushions, bamboo pole, rails on the ceiling, mirrored wall and ceiling, saw red ropes hanging out of a closet. isg descriptions were spot on. bingo!

along come the line ups. chose #12 a tall slinky chick but when the door closed an attitude started and 3 minutes later i was asking for another line up having returned #12. explained to the laoban that i was there on recommendation as wasn't interested in the attitude as a paying guest. took a while for the next line up to arrive but was promised there would be no attitude. chose #155 from jilin, 18 years old, nicely curvy, medium length hair done up in a bun, "feiji chang", but smiling and chirpy. took a little while but she settled me down after #12. she confirmed the 40+ steps and went on to describe/demonstrate each including the black ropes (which were well hidden and a nice surprise). she was a little acrobat twisting and twirling on either the red or black ropes. making little jokes as she went along or suggestions. as she got down off the ropes she asked what services i wanted. well, i was overwhelmed like a little boy in a candy shop and needed to think. she suggested a little hj action saying it may help to clear the mind. one thing led to another, as they do in these situations, she graduated onto bls, hot/cold bbbj and newly invigorated i asked for another demo of the ropes. first time around she rang through them at such a pace so i asked for a slower walk through. she smiled and obliged asking me to help her up.

she wrapped her legs around the red ropes. hung upside down she pulled my hips closer and slip my length into her mouth. too late i dove between her legs for a little vertical 69. legs getting weak (hers and mine, i think) she swings over onto the black ropes - one leg in each stirrup holding onto the red ropes lifting and swaying her body. didn't need it explained to me what the sway motion was for so again standing up i slip between her legs while she controls the action with her swaying. clenching her wholesome ass as we move in synchronised motion (harder than you think but fun none the less). tired and panting she slips out of the stirrups and flips back on the red ropes to get down. her long back stretched down to her ass exposed (all her magnificent curves displayed perfectly) with her legs balancing her hammock style in the red rope. caught her by surprise doggie style from behind in the hammock. she was game though. we built up a steam with her swing from the ceiling in a red rope hammock. i lifted her out and slid onto one of angled cushions continuing reverse cowgirl by now audibly grounding into each other. i pulled her hair clip out and unwound her hair to drape down over her shoulders. she slowed down and i thinking she was tired needing a rest slipped out of her to let her get off for a rest. she grabbed my dick, stuck it back in, swung around facing me and started riding me again. wonderful if you can keep up! spreading her legs wide in a squat she levers her pounding on my dick. she leans forward, i can feel her breath on my neck and as she increases frequency i pull her mouth close to mine, her tongue darts into my mouth finding mine. locked exploring her mouth for what seemed like an age i shoot my load. knees trembling i slow to a gentle pounding while she wriggles on my hips, half lifting herself a couple of times until she dismounts. pulls off the umbrella, cleans up thoroughly, tidies up around before coming back to kiss the tip of my cock and licking from my balls up to slit to make sure its clean. what a clean up job. she still smilingly asks "jiao shuang shemme?". i would if i had anything left inside me. - oil fields are dry.

a moments rest before going for a much needed shower. pay on the way out rmb 350. laoban steps in and gets the price cut to rmb 300 apologising for the inconvenience earlier. this is an impressive display of service for china. undeterred i ask for a loyalty card. i'll be back for a little more adventure with some of the girls (6-6.5 range in general). went for a drink with a mongerer from macao i met inside and was put in the know about some places in dongguan. another time and another report.

in summary, an extraordinary weekend and unusually active by my standards. excellent guidance and location advice from isg and johnnykon666, in particular. hence, the post.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[RasSpewtin]

hua ge:

i don’t pretend for a second that anyone on this board has the power to change the spending habits of every monger visiting china. if a guy is paying more than market value for goods and services in china, it is usually for one of two reasons:

1. he doesn’t know any better.
or
2. he is aware of the going rate, but has lots of cash and will spend it as he sees fit.

my writings are targeted are those in the former category, because the ones in the latter don’t need my advice. if they want advice, then they can go out and buy it.

it is the general motus operandi of myself and my peers in china to only provide advice to those who want or need it. past that, we cannot affect change.

and yes, i am one of those guys in the 5-star hotel with the nice dvd player. usually, the girl doesn’t care or notice, and that is ok too.
raz


raz,
perhaps most career globetrotting mongers playing native resident just need to accept the fact that as a destination becomes more well known by general word of mouth it will attract more tourist mongers. trying to persuade/teach the majority of tourist monger not to convert local currency to home currency is unrealistic and practically impossible;

[OldAsiaHand]

Frankee69,

You are searching on the wrong thread. Jusco was a former area of BBS behind the Citic Plaza in Shenzhen. It is no longer relevant for mongering purposes.

OAH






I have searched and searched. Where is Jusco located? I am going to be staying at the GD Regency end of the month.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Frankee69,

You are searching on the wrong thread. Jusco was a former area of BBS behind the Citic Plaza in Shenzhen. It is no longer relevant for mongering purposes.

OAHTo OAH / frankee 69,

I think he is taking about the Zhu Hai jusco I went there 2 week ago to the Emerald hotel the sauna is closed move to the GDH hotel in LHL road in Gonbei , if you take taxi is about 15 min north east of Gonbei border forgot the st name .

Fast eddie 48

[RasSpewtin]

Franky:

There is indeed a JUSCO in Zhuhai, and this is the one that has been referred to in several posts from Johnnykon666 and others. I forget the name of the district in Zhuahi in which it is located. but the concierge in your hotel should definitely know it. Failing that, get in the cab and ask the driver to take you to Ji Zhi Dao. There is only one in Zhuhai.

Raz


I have searched and searched. Where is Jusco located? I am going to be staying at the GD Regency end of the month.

[Weelock]

I have searched and searched. Where is Jusco located? I am going to be staying at the GD Regency end of the month.

There is a Jusco in Zhuhai. There's a McDonalds at this Jusco. I also found a Jusco in Dongguan City. Zhuhai's Jusco is about 15 mins north of GD Regency by car. It's about 5 min walk north of a large computer mart area. There is no large concentration of BBS at Zhuhai's Jusco. There are few BBS and saunas. Johnny and RasSpewtin knows more about this area.

Edit: It seems like Ras just beat me by one min. in his post.

[RasSpewtin]

Hey, OAH:

Your PM inbox is full. Also, I lost you email address when I changed PC's. Can you please send me a PM with your email address?

Raz

[Superforce99]

There is a Jusco. There's a McDonalds at this Jusco. I also found a Jusco in Dongguan City.


I also found a Jusco in Guangzhou and Beijing, too.



J

[Superforce99]

Great post Wapec, your post is the type that persuade me to keep coming back and posting new/relevant info. I just can't stand the absolute bullshit posted on this thread and other China threads, but I can't contol other peoples' idiotic tendencies...



*****SHORT VERSION
The sauna is called Jing Du Sauna ( 晶都 ) and it is about 1 minute from the Feng Huang Bei bus stop ( 凤凰北 ) in Xiangzhou district.

228 RMB (no shower bed) and 238 RMB (shower bed) for 90 minutes of service, two shots seem the standard. Girls young but quality/service is mediocre.



*****LONG VERSION
Saw some flyers earlier last week advertising discount prices at a sauna I've never been to in Xiangzhou and hard to say no to 228 RMB for 90 minutes of sauna service during 12pm-7pm promotional period. The place is called Jing Du Sauna ( 晶都 ) and it is about 1 minute from the Feng Huang Bei bus stop ( 凤凰北 )which is the final station for several buses. If you are at Jusco, you walk about 15 minutes down the street until you reach the Bank of China (same side of the street) or you see the Vanguard supermarket (see pic). If you are staying in the Gongbei district, I don't recommend you come all the way out there for this place, it's not worth the time/money, unless you HAVE to go to a suana you've never been to before...

The sauna is on the third floor and feels older and semi-run down but apparently is was almost full when I went there at 1:45pm. The manager is nice enough, friendly, and efficient in showing you to a room and bringing the lineups. The girls were, in general, not polished looking and mostly in their regular street clothing, which can be a good thing/bad thing depending on your taste. The lineups gave me the amusing feeling that the management had just gone on the street and gathered the first dozen 18-20 year old gals they saw and told them to give me a lineup. The majority were young, nervous, and shy looking and looks ranged from 4-7. I took the 7 and she seemed not exactly happy about being chosen, but her attitude wasn't any better than the other gals and I accepted the fact I would need to "warm her up" with conversation.

There are shower beds in this sauna (don't know why the majority in Gongbei don't have them) but I didn't want to use them. The difference between a room with a shower bed and without is 238 vs. 228, so keep that in mind if you want to save that 10, and I know there are plenty of you out there who want to...

The gal was nice and polite but not GFE. After the shower, she even asked me if I wanted one shots or two shots, and when asked about the difference, she said the service level wasn't the same, which sounded weird. She gave a good BBBJCIM but I think she wasn't expecting the CIM since her reaction wavered between spitting in the garbage can and cussing me out, ha...but after a long rest chatting, she gave me some body licking and a very brief BBBJ to get me hard, got the condom, and we fucked until we were done which was almost at the 90 minute mark. I guess the difference in service means none of the vaccum treatment with the liquids in her mouth/fire+ice BJ/anal probing which is fine, since I usually skip that stuff anyway.

Forgot her number but I don't think she actually had a number tag on her but she's not worth repeating anyway. She's about 5'3, past-shoulder-length black hair, medium build, and from Changsha in Hunan. Went to the front desk paid the 228 bill and left.


J

[Tiger 888]

SHORT VERSION

The sauna is called Jing Du Sauna ( 晶都 ) and it is about 1 minute from the Feng Huang Bei bus stop ( 凤凰北 ) in Xiangzhou district.

228 RMB (no shower bed) and 238 RMB (shower bed) for 90 minutes of service, two shots seem the standard. Girls young but quality/service is mediocre....Johnny,

Don't forget to type a space between the Chinese character and the bracket.

Otherwise the smilies will hit.

[Superforce99]

A quick update on the Mai Hao Sauna which I reported on in an earlier report, as did Wapac. One more way to notice this place (at night) is a huge flashing neon sign with a bunch of Chinese and an obvious "MH" in the middle of the sign.

Anyway, got there at about 11pm and the place was packed, almost every room was occupied...surprising. But it doesn't "feel" crowded like DMY can feel, though it may take a few minutes to get a room ready and I only saw a total of 8 girls in two lineups that night. Quality was just OK, maybe ranging from 4-6.5, maybe a weak 7. Captain recommended one gal and she was smiling so picked her. Got along very well with her once in the room and she in turn became relaxed, chatty, and playful then showed me so many services, I lost count. It was one of the few times I actually use the entire 90 minutes in a suana and not totally finish. From what I experienced, this is a complete/semi-complete list of all the services in the order I recieved them (though I'm sure my hazy memory has caused me to leave out a step or two). I post this because I know many times foreigners/inexperienced customers will get shortchanged on the whole "list of services" so if you go to this place, use this as a cheat sheet and let your girl know that she is skipping one or more services you'd like to try:

-light massage of feet, legs, body, arms, and finished with face massage using her breasts
-various liquid slurping/sucking on back and front of body
-various liquid slupring/sucking on feet and toes
-prop your body face-forward on a triangular pillow to give her easy access to your ass for rimming
-use the bamboo pole for something I'll describe as "fire/ice rimming"
-various liquid slurping/sucking on cock and balls
-standing against wall BJ
-red ropes BJ
-black ropes BJ
-fucking agains the wall
-fucking using red ropes
-fucking using black ropes


The thoughtful gal even suggested we fuck first then do the services, in case we couldn't finish everything, she wanted to make sure I had an enjoyable fuck first, ha ha...

And she was right, I was at "fucking using red ropes" when the phone rang to let us know time was up. She got off the ropes, answered the phone, then came back next to me and said, "No problem, let's try to finish your second time." She got setup in the black ropes and I fucked her for a bit that way until I realized that fucking her on the bed would be much more conductive to finishing. In all, I estimated we fucked another 15 minutes or so after the phone rang without any rush from this gal, which is very good service and I felt bad that I was wearing PJs and my wallet was in the locker so no tip was available for her. But then she seemed more eager to have me come back for another session rather than a tip when I told her my thoughts, so I'll definately pay a return visit. I'll keep her number private but gladly share it with anybody who has posted something useful in the past and/or hasn't posted something totally idiotic and useless recently.

Also, the management seems to be out of sauna club cards (50 RMB discount, free membership) so my buddy couldn't get one, but we both could use my card for the discount (338 - 50 RMB = 288 RMB total for 90 minutes) and they even gave me a couple of discount coupons for 218 RMB sessions before 8pm or past 12 midnight. At that price, I dub the MH sauna the new "budget sauna king", taking the crown from DMY, but I still feel DMY has the highest possibility for a "nasty porno chick" experience in ZH...


J

[Poytsa 69]

Ohhh man whatever you reported is great.

I will visit this place soon.

Could you please give me her number.

Take care!


A quick update on the Mai Hao Sauna which I reported on in an earlier report, as did Wapac. One more way to notice this place (at night) is a huge flashing neon sign with a bunch of Chinese and an obvious "MH" in the middle of the sign.

Anyway, got there at about 11pm and the place was packed, almost every room was occupied...surprising. But it doesn't "feel" crowded like DMY can feel, though it may take a few minutes to get a room ready and I only saw a total of 8 girls in two lineups that night. Quality was just OK, maybe ranging from 4-6.5, maybe a weak 7. Captain recommended one gal and she was smiling so picked her. Got along very well with her once in the room and she in turn became relaxed, chatty, and playful then showed me so many services, I lost count. It was one of the few times I actually use the entire 90 minutes in a suana and not totally finish. From what I experienced, this is a complete/semi-complete list of all the services in the order I recieved them (though I'm sure my hazy memory has caused me to leave out a step or two). I post this because I know many times foreigners/inexperienced customers will get shortchanged on the whole "list of services" so if you go to this place, use this as a cheat sheet and let your girl know that she is skipping one or more services you'd like to try:

-light massage of feet, legs, body, arms, and finished with face massage using her breasts
-various liquid slurping/sucking on back and front of body
-various liquid slupring/sucking on feet and toes
-prop your body face-forward on a triangular pillow to give her easy access to your ass for rimming
-use the bamboo pole for something I'll describe as "fire/ice rimming"
-various liquid slurping/sucking on cock and balls
-standing against wall BJ
-red ropes BJ
-black ropes BJ
-fucking agains the wall
-fucking using red ropes
-fucking using black ropes


The thoughtful gal even suggested we fuck first then do the services, in case we couldn't finish everything, she wanted to make sure I had an enjoyable fuck first, ha ha...

And she was right, I was at "fucking using red ropes" when the phone rang to let us know time was up. She got off the ropes, answered the phone, then came back next to me and said, "No problem, let's try to finish your second time." She got setup in the black ropes and I fucked her for a bit that way until I realized that fucking her on the bed would be much more conductive to finishing. In all, I estimated we fucked another 15 minutes or so after the phone rang without any rush from this gal, which is very good service and I felt bad that I was wearing PJs and my wallet was in the locker so no tip was available for her. But then she seemed more eager to have me come back for another session rather than a tip when I told her my thoughts, so I'll definately pay a return visit. I'll keep her number private but gladly share it with anybody who has posted something useful in the past and/or hasn't posted something totally idiotic and useless recently.

Also, the management seems to be out of sauna club cards (50 RMB discount, free membership) so my buddy couldn't get one, but we both could use my card for the discount (338 - 50 RMB = 288 RMB total for 90 minutes) and they even gave me a couple of discount coupons for 218 RMB sessions before 8pm or past 12 midnight. At that price, I dub the MH sauna the new "budget sauna king", taking the crown from DMY, but I still feel DMY has the highest possibility for a "nasty porno chick" experience in ZH.

J

[Eaglestar]

Could you please give me her number.



Can you read Poytsa???? What did he say?

And I quote "I'll keep her number private but gladly share it with anybody who has posted something useful in the past and/or hasn't posted something totally idiotic and useless recently."

ES

[Tonedog]

Hi there.

Got a question to those of you who know Zhuhai well, especially JK666.

Will be flying out and returning through Macau (Air Asia to BKK), and with my dep and arrival time, I'm thinking instead of renting a hotel and going out to a sauna shag (something I will be doing anyways), I thought I would just mull around Zhuhai a little bit, have a bite to eat, and then go to a sauna late in the evening say around 10 pm or so, and when finished, sleep in the room until morning.

My question is. Which saunas around/near the Gongbei area allow 'customers' to sleep through the morning?

I think I read a report sometime back that there's one particular sauna that has a dinner buffet included in the price, and at different intervals in the evening, the girls would all come out where the lounge area is and do a short dance routine so the guys can see the 'inventory' available. Which sauna is this? Does this one allow guest to sleep through.

This place would be ideal for me as I get into Macau around 7 pm. I can head over to Zhuhai, have a buffet, watch the girls show off their stuff, then pick one to get a nice 'massage', and then rest in the room till morning. Sounds like paradise. He he he.

Thanks in advance for any feedback

Tonedog

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi there.

Got a question to those of you who know Zhuhai well, especially JK666.

Will be flying out and returning through Macau (Air Asia to BKK), and with my dep and arrival time, I'm thinking instead of renting a hotel and going out to a sauna shag (something I will be doing anyways), I thought I would just mull around Zhuhai a little bit, have a bite to eat, and then go to a sauna late in the evening say around 10 pm or so, and when finished, sleep in the room until morning.

My question is. Which saunas around/near the Gongbei area allow 'customers' to sleep through the morning?

I think I read a report sometime back that there's one particular sauna that has a dinner buffet included in the price, and at different intervals in the evening, the girls would all come out where the lounge area is and do a short dance routine so the guys can see the 'inventory' available. Which sauna is this? Does this one allow guest to sleep through.

This place would be ideal for me as I get into Macau around 7 pm. I can head over to Zhuhai, have a buffet, watch the girls show off their stuff, then pick one to get a nice 'massage', and then rest in the room till morning. Sounds like paradise. He he he.

Thanks in advance for any feedback

TonedogTonedog,

Most sauna in Zhu hai offer free overnight stay after midnight or 1 am some don't offer this on Saturday night if too busy. In gongbei area Changan new world at LHL offer after 1 am cost 320 rmb, Ming hao halth center 298 rmb after midnight last time I show up at 11pm no problem I am a regular customer nice room large bed ceiling mirror and gold coast sauna next to the hotel just left to the border 5 min walk after midnight small place 288 rmb very small room.

DMY offer free overnight stay also but after 3 pm and 10 min taxi from border go for the vip room 218 rmb ok room and all this included 90 min FS best deal and I do this all the time spend whole day in Macau and head back to Zhu Hai at night read all my pass post for more info.

Fast eddie 48

[Tonedog]

Thanks Fast Eddie.

Much appreciated on the info give.

A follow-up question:

That different times you mentioned on your post. For example Ming Hao after midnight. So does that mean if I start my FS massage at around 11pm, and finish around 12:30 am, I can then stay in the room till morning?

Or, the "after midnight" means I have to start my FS massage after 12am, in order to qualify for the free stay-over?

And again, can anyone tell me which sauna has the girls dancing in the lounge area every hour or 2 to show off the inventory to the customers while they are eating and lounging in the rest area?

Thanks again.

Tonedog

[Fast Eddie 48]

Thanks Fast Eddie.

Much appreciated on the info give.

A follow-up question:

That different times you mentioned on your post. For example Ming Hao after midnight. So does that mean if I start my FS massage at around 11pm, and finish around 12:30 am, I can then stay in the room till morning?

Or, the "after midnight" means I have to start my FS massage after 12am, in order to qualify for the free stay-over?

And again, can anyone tell me which sauna has the girls dancing in the lounge area every hour or 2 to show off the inventory to the customers while they are eating and lounging in the rest area?

Thanks again.

TonedogMing hao,

I am a regular customer at Ming hao don't know about newbie like you , I told you to read my pass post for more info , this is not macau sauna so no floor show they bring you the lineup at your room , they do bring you free food and drink to your room and you can stay until 10 am in the morning.

Fast eddie 48

[Superforce99]

For Tonedog, I'll add a little bit to Fast Eddie's helpful comments:

Most saunas in Zhuhai (and China in general) allow customers to stay overnight in the room if you finish your services after 12am midnight, so that means if you begin your 90 minute session at about 10:30pm - 11pm that will be perfect. A few of the higher-end saunas may charge an extra fee for overnight stay, but the majority of the places do not. If in doubt, ask the manager as he/she shows you the way to your room and before you begin the service.

And as far as I know, there are no buffet meals or general parades of girls in a public area since, well, this sauna thing is supposed to be illegal in Mainland China, ha ha. Guys and girls don't really want to be seen and heard in too open a manner while visiting/working at these places. You can order specific drinks and food for delivery to the room, much like room service in a hotel. There are usually complimentary drinks included in the sauna service price but not food.

In Macau, it's much more out in the open, so for buffets, parades, and chocie of non-Chinese girls (and 5-10x the price of Zhuhai) go to Macau's saunas.



J

[Superforce99]

Since this recent experience was kind of inspired by ISG, I'll share it here...

I had gone to a certain massage place near my apt twice and gotten the same masseuse each time. Her massage skills were excellent and she gave me a HJ the second time which was OK. Nothing really special about her in the looks department, either; I would describe her as from Hunan, about 5'4, relatively large breasts, mid-30s, slightly overweight, unhappily married, Chinese woman...

...for some reason I totally thought about Eaglestar and his infamous AFF conquests because the AFF women he gets very very generally fit the description above.

So, inspired by ES, I simply told her to come over to my apartment for a massage. She had been messaging and/or calling me a few times a week during this time, asking me to come get a massage with no other implied meaning, as far as I could tell. It had been about 2-3 weeks since I last saw her when I requested she come, and when she showed up, I almost cancelled my little plan, but soldier on, soldier...

One of the first things she told me when she arrived was that she "took a shower", an odd piece of information which basically sealed the deal in my eyes. After giving her a short tour of my apt, we ended up in the bedroom where she lamely asked, "Shall we watch some TV now?" which I answered with a hand on her ass and my tongue in her mouth. Now, she either slapping my face or grabbing my ass, I wouldn't have been surprised...luckily it was the latter so the fun ensued.

Though it totally reeked of screwing an aunt, a janitor lady, or some other mid-30s Chinese woman, she was actually pretty good. She probably hadn't had any sex in years, so she was going apeshit with every touch and caress and nibble, so that was a big turn on for me. I went bareback with her with her encouragement (her age + plus low chance she wants a kid) and it was seriously one of the tightest, wettest pussies I've had in a long time, put many gals I've had to shame. BBBJ, DATY, 69, rimming, etc ensued...

After we were done, we were taking a shower and she was so turned on, she gave me a BBBJ in the shower and was desperately trying to get me to CIM, but, alas, there was too much light in the bathroom (unlike the bedroom) and the light splashed some harsh reality into my eyes. I didn't have the gall to ask her to turn off the bathroom lights, ha ha...

Anyway, she dressed and left after the shower without much more chatting, though she said she wanted to come back to my apt for more "massage". Hmmm, not sure about that...but if anyone out there wants her number and wants to try their luck, contact me.

I gave a mental high-five to Eaglestar although at this point, I realized I forgot to do the reverse face fuck! Damn!


J

[Tonedog]

Hey JK and Fast Eddie.

Thank you both for the info on sauna that allow guests to sleep over.

Going to a sauna and sleeping over in their relatively clean and comfy rooms is not only practical in terms of saving hotel costs, but for a lazy dude like me. After getting a nice FS massage, the last thing I feel like doing is getting up, getting dressed and hike back to whatever hotel I'm staying.

I'd much rather just roll over after the deed, and fall into a deep slumber like a baby. Maybe it's just me. But that's PARADISE man. !

Thanks again guys.

Tonedog

[Superforce99]

Adding to the Eaglestar experience I posted about earlier, I decided to call her up again last night and do the reverse face fuck I neglected the previous time...

Ha ha, this second time, she was much more coy and suggestive when I asked her to come over, asking me stupid BS like "what should I come over for? Massage or something more?", "How much do you want me to come over?"...geez, I was 5 seconds from telling her I just wanted do a reverse face fuck and kick her out...

Anyway, she came over, we fucked, and I actually finished CIM while doing reverse face fuck and while she wasn't too happy about that, she asked me if it was true that swallowing would be good for her complexion, which the answer from me was, ofcourse, yes.

Now Mission Complete has been hung across my mental aircraft carrier deck...thanks for the inspiration again, Eaglestar, ha ha...


J

[SE Asia Joe]

Adding to the Eaglestar experience I posted about earlier, I decided to call her up again last night and do the reverse face fuck I neglected the previous time...

Ha ha, this second time, she was much more coy and suggestive when I asked her to come over, asking me stupid BS like "what should I come over for? Massage or something more?", "How much do you want me to come over?"...geez, I was 5 seconds from telling her I just wanted do a reverse face fuck and kick her out...

Anyway, she came over, we fucked, and I actually finished CIM while doing reverse face fuck and while she wasn't too happy about that, she asked me if it was true that swallowing would be good for her complexion, which the answer from me was, ofcourse, yes.

Now Mission Complete has been hung across my mental aircraft carrier deck...thanks for the inspiration again, Eaglestar, ha ha...


J
Johnny:
Now you're going to be MY inspiration!
SE Asia Joe

[Eaglestar]

Adding to the Eaglestar experience I posted about earlier, I decided to call her up again last night and do the reverse face fuck I neglected the previous time...

Now Mission Complete has been hung across my mental aircraft carrier deck...thanks for the inspiration again, Eaglestar, ha ha...


J

Happy to know how inspirational I am Johnny. I am sure my wife would be proud of me if she only knew:)

30 somethings are great in my books, especially married, neglected ones.


ES

[Eaglestar]

BTW, more inspiration from old ES for JohnnyK.

My relatively new AFF/CFF freebie (the 37 year old one) just called and wants some company tonight and tomorrow before she leaves for a one week business trip to Tokyo. Likely get another reverse face fuck again.

Pics later if so :)

Is it an omen that this post is 469 (for 69) ha ha

ES

[SE Asia Joe]

Happy to know how inspirational I am Johnny. I am sure my wife would be proud of me if she only knew:)

30 somethings are great in my books, especially married, neglected ones.


ES
Hey ES - the original inspiration!!
Now I've not only gotta watch out for the young bucks, I've got to also watch out for the Not-So-Young bucks like you. You stay away from my wife!!
Damn - that means I gotta stay at home more nowadays!!
Tally Ho Gents - and happiness to one and all!
Se Asia Joe

[AsnDragon]

I had a question about ZhuHai. I haven't been there for about 3 years now. I usually stay in the regular places in CP- and Shenzhen and all. But when I was there 3 years ago, I went to this one place, where there was like 50 street walkers, all from different regions, like Hubei, Hunan, Haerbing groups of girls that surround you in a circle and ask you to pick them. I was there with my friend and he felt overwhelmed by all these girls crowding over him. But I thought it was quite cool. And a large number of hotties.

I was thinking of treking over there to Zhuhai on my next trip, but I wanted to know if these SW's are still working the same way like they use to?

I went to a KTV there once and after I got in a taxi, being dead drunk, I noticed even hotter SW's outside of this KTV joint.

I find these SW's to be the most memorable part of my trip. Wondering if this still exists or if it's proliferated even more so today?

Appreciate some pointers.

P.S.. I'm not talking about Lotus street, this SW scene was where they had guys in cars drive by to pick up girls. They even had these two russian girls there that looked really worn out.

[Eaglestar]

Hey ES - the original inspiration!!
Now I've not only gotta watch out for the young bucks, I've got to also watch out for the Not-So-Young bucks like you. You stay away from my wife!!

Se Asia Joe

'Not so young bucks'? Shit, try old toads............

You got no worries from me SEAJ


ES

[Tonedog]

Hey JK666.

Read a lot of Zhuhai's postings over the last 5 hrs. And my eyes are burning red right now. Tough research, but worthwhile.

My question is I read in one of your recent reports that Zhuhai gov't has banned WET SHOWER BEDS in all Zhuhai saunas? Please tell me this ain't true in all saunas in ZH. I was looking forward to going to Fu Hai (2 dragon-horse place) and Ming Hao, as they both were reported to have the Thai-style shower bed massage (a favorite of mine, from experiences in Thailand). Love having a chick with a decent rack rubbing all over my body. What paradise!

So, can anyone tell me if there are ANY sauna (s) left in ZH that still has the wet shower bed.

Tonedog

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hey JK666.

Read a lot of Zhuhai's postings over the last 5 hrs. And my eyes are burning red right now. Tough research, but worthwhile.

My question is I read in one of your recent reports that Zhuhai gov't has banned WET SHOWER BEDS in all Zhuhai saunas? Please tell me this ain't true in all saunas in ZH. I was looking forward to going to Fu Hai (2 dragon-horse place) and Ming Hao, as they both were reported to have the Thai-style shower bed massage (a favorite of mine, from experiences in Thailand). Love having a chick with a decent rack rubbing all over my body. What paradise!

So, can anyone tell me if there are ANY sauna (s) left in ZH that still has the wet shower bed.

TonedogTonedog,

My self and Johnnykon have post about this 3 week ago , the city of Zhu hai has outlaw table shower massage about 2 month ago , Ming Hao have this before and I love the thai body massage on the table but last month when I was there they take it out and told me they might bring it back soon , maybe you should spend another 5 hr.

Fast eddie 48

[Tanky]

Fear not guys,

Apparently a few rooms in lvl 3 of Ming Hao still comes with the massage table. I saw it last week, was on the last room on level 3.

Tank


Tonedog,

My self and Johnnykon have post about this 3 week ago , the city of Zhu hai has outlaw table shower massage about 2 month ago , Ming Hao have this before and I love the thai body massage on the table but last month when I was there they take it out and told me they might bring it back soon , maybe you should spend another 5 hr.

Fast eddie 48

[MegaPoint]

Hey JK666.

My question is I read in one of your recent reports that Zhuhai gov't has banned WET SHOWER BEDS in all Zhuhai saunas? Please tell me this ain't true in all saunas in ZH. I was looking forward to going to Fu Hai (2 dragon-horse place) and Ming Hao, as they both were reported to have the Thai-style shower bed massage (a favorite of mine, from experiences in Thailand). Love having a chick with a decent rack rubbing all over my body. What paradise!

So, can anyone tell me if there are ANY sauna (s) left in ZH that still has the wet shower bed.

Tonedog

Spent two days in Zhuhai earlier this week. I tried the Mai Hao, and they do not have a shower bed, but rather a 'shower chair', a big plastic lounge chair with a towel...you sit on it, and the girl runs hot water from a large, old-fashioned shower head directly above, and rubs herself all over you while kneeling in front...I had No. 58, lovely face and a dead ringer for HK pop singer/actress Joey Yung, but a bit overly efficient, she seemed to want me in and out as fast as possible, and I dun like that rush. A bit heavy for me, from Harbin, big hooters and a porn actress attitude. The red/black rope stuff, as reported by other bros, is entertaining as theater, but with my bad 50-y.o. knees, damn girl, let's get down on the matress!!

Damage: 518 RMB for 90 minutes, but I wasn't there for the full time. Seems expensive by mainland standards, but a few miles south in Macau it would be almost 3 times as much.

Warning: Afterwards, I had a terrible time finding a taxi at 6 PM to get out of Xiangshan district and back to my hotel. Be warned that the Mai Hao International Hotel, to which the Sauna is attached, doesn't actually seem to have any guests...just a skeleton staff and one very stupid bellhop who can't even find a taxi after 40 minutes...

There's been some confusion about the address of the Mai Hao. It's on the corniche which runs the whole length of Zhuhai:

Mai Hao International Healthy Sauna Centre
3/F, 91 Middle Lover's Road
Zhuhai SEZ

The phone is 86-756-381-2888. The manager I met gave me his card, his name is Wong Chi (maybe Wang Ji in putonghua). There's even a web site, <www.maihaohotel.com>, and an email address, maihaosauna@126.com

Cheers,
Mega

[Superforce99]

Hey JK666.

Read a lot of Zhuhai's postings over the last 5 hrs. And my eyes are burning red right now. Tough research, but worthwhile.

My question is I read in one of your recent reports that Zhuhai gov't has banned WET SHOWER BEDS in all Zhuhai saunas? Please tell me this ain't true in all saunas in ZH. I was looking forward to going to Fu Hai (2 dragon-horse place) and Ming Hao, as they both were reported to have the Thai-style shower bed massage (a favorite of mine, from experiences in Thailand). Love having a chick with a decent rack rubbing all over my body. What paradise!

So, can anyone tell me if there are ANY sauna (s) left in ZH that still has the wet shower bed.

Tonedog


To sum up in very general terms, if the sauna is in the Gongbei District, there is a good chance it will NOT have shower beds available, and if the sauna is not in the Gongbei district, it WILL have shower beds available.

Now, to show you the inexact nature of this generalization, I can think of at least two places off the top of my head in Gongbei that have shower beds, including Chang An (old CA, not Good World) and Golden Port.

And by the way, the Fu Hao is not worth going to anymore. For a good mix of the different types of saunas available in ZH, I would recommend you try all of the following: Chang An Good World, DMY, Old Chang An, and Mai Hao. Individually, I rank them from good to great but in different ways and trying this group gives you a better feel for the wide range of sauna types available in ZH.

Shower beds have never been a deciding factor for me personally so I don't pay too much attention to whether a place has them or not, so I don't have much more specific info.


J

[Tonedog]

Again, thanx to all the wonderful feedback to my sauna q's. I have a few more follow-ups.

1. JK, why has Fu Hai (2 horse-dragon) been 'down-graded' in your opinion? Is is the service, the quality of girls, and/or the prices?

I think I fell in love with this place after you wrote about it so lovingly. With the sensual breast massage by the 'scrub/wash' girl, the shower bed, and excellent price of under 300rmb.

2. I see on the Ming Hao business card, the place is located in the Communications Building/Hotel. Isn't that the same address or place/building as the Communication Sauna, which you have also written about, and placed it on your sauna list? Are both of these saunas located in the same building/complex?

And what is the updated price of Ming Hao? I have seen someone reporting under 300RMB, as well as others reporting 350RMB?

3. With so many "Chang An" hotels in the city. Where is the Old Chang An (the one that JK mentioned still having the shower beds)?

And what is the latest pricing at this joint (anyone who's been there recently)?

Thanks again.

Tonedog

[Superforce99]

Answering your questions in order:


1. I don't know what happened...you know how a favorite restaurant, cafe, or woman can suddenly age and metaphorically fall off a cliff? That's what happened with this place. If you're dead set on trying it out, report on how it is now; who knows, it might have gotten better. This is China afterall and things change by the day...

Go to the "black ropes" sauna I've mentioned if you want a good total service package that would do my nostaligic "Dragon Horse" memories proud. With the 50 discount card that a manager can discreetly give you (insist on it while in the room) the cost is 288 for a room with no shower (you will use the public shower/locker facilities instead which is clean and basic).

2. The Communications Sauna was shuttered, razed, and the Ming Hao built almost from the ground up in the old location. Hence, it looks and feels brand new because it is.

And the price is 350 but insist on 300 by either saying your friend told you that price or you didn't bring the coupon, etc. It works 100% of the time for me when I bring new people there.

3. The old Chang An is right at beginning of the beginning of the outdoor LHL cafes, down the street from the McDonalds. It's simply called "Chang An Jiu Dian" and I guess you can say "Lao Chang An Jiu Dian" to a taxi driver to emphasize it is the old one.

One confusing thing is the sauna is around the corner from the hotel and not in the hotel itself. It's right behind the 3rd or 4th outdoor cafe, just look for the bored gal standing by the wood podium waiting for clients.

Pricing is 220 for the smallest room, then 280, then 300, then 350 for increasingly larger rooms.


J

[Tonedog]

Thanks so much JK, for clarifying on the details. I'm sure the updated info you and others have given in recent days is appreciated and pertinent to not just me, but others who are interested in the ZH scene.

Cheers.

Tonedog

[Ero Sannin]

Hi everyone I'm a long time reader and have made the jump in getting the membership subscription. This is also my first post and review.

Anyways last week I went to macau by bus which cost me 55rmb from Panyu area. Arrived nearly 2 hours later. Went to Century hotel in Macau and ate the buffet provided free with my tour bus ticket deal.

Afterwards I headed back over to Gongbei and being the first time there I was kinda lost. However I've been doing my homework and walk around for nearly an hour. I had found the LHL bars and tents that every one seems to talk about. During my searching I had found the old Chang An hotel it seems but decided to keep on walking and then stumbled on the Jing Yu hotel.

Once in I was assured I was in the right place on the 3rd floor. The price was 300rmb for 90 mins. Had 2 line ups of 5 girls each. Picked a sad looking on the 2nd line up and banged her good. Her number was #16 and has a real good body. Although upon waiting the line up I saw a solid 9 with big natural tits but she was not part of the line up. Anyways once don't with her my total bill was 750 because I kept adding hours and had my cock sucked for like 4 hours.

Paid and mamasan gave me 2 coupons which deducts 146rmb each on my next visit. I will be going there again this Sunday I think.

[Dave Ten]

Thanks for the info provided by the senior member in this forum. Really appreciate it. I am reporting live from JinYu Hotel now.

LHL is back and alive again but might not be as good as what other member have expereinced. Following is my FR.

I travelled from GuangZhou to Gongbei by bus this afternoon. I reached Gongbei Station around 7:30pm and took a cab straight to the JinYu Hotel. Upon Check in, I went directly to LHL to take a stroll (8pm). Before I pass by the umbrella area I was approached by 4 SW separately. I don't want to decide so early so I rejected their offers. When I pass by the umbrella area, I notice at least 50 SW standing or sitting beside the stall. I further explore all the way until I reached the Gongbei bus station. On the way back, I was approached by another 1 SW. But the look not really impressive so I rejected. I was kind of hungry so I decide to take my dinner at a Taiwanese fast food stall opposite JinYu. When I was crossing the road a cute SW approached me and ask me " Dai wo hui qu hao ma? " (can you bring me back? ). Her look convinced me to take her for a chat. I brought her to dinner. She is very cooperative and patient. She ordered a drink and we have a really good chat and I manage to get a company for dinner.

After that we go back to hotel and that's where all the action start. Her catbath is below average but did pay a lot of attention on BBBJ. I challenge her to make me CIM, so that I will upgrade from ST to LT. She did put in lots of effort, like fire/ice, but too bad skill is not there. Then we proceed to pumping and finish the job.

Name: Xioa Fang
Look: 8/10
Body: 6/10
BBBJ: 7/10
FJ: 7/10
CIM: yes
AR: didn't ask
GFE: yes
Damage: rmb200 ST

She asked for rmb800 for LT but I don't agree with the price so I rejected.
Any ISG member willing to update me on the price for LT? I understand it should be around rmb400, right?

[Dave Ten]

Just a suggestion to put an index of the number of SW at LHL. The index should include date, time and the number of SW during that period of time to be the SW index. The number should be in the range of

0 -5: extremely low
6-20: low
21-100: average
100and above: high

The idea of doing this is to provide an indication to fellow member who is going to visit Zhuhai on the number of SW on LHL.

My first update:
Date: 22 Nov 07
Time: 0136
Sw index: average

Hope other member can help to update the index from time to time.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Just a suggestion to put an index of the number of SW at LHL. The index should include date, time and the number of SW during that period of time to be the SW index. The number should be in the range of

0 -5: extremely low
6-20: low
21-100: average
100and above: high

The idea of doing this is to provide an indication to fellow member who is going to visit Zhuhai on the number of SW on LHL.

My first update:
Date: 22 Nov 07
Time: 0136
Sw index: average

Hope other member can help to update the index from time to time.Newbie,

I don't know who you are and where you are from if you want all this detail you should go to Zhu hai yourself , you want all this detail no one member is going to have the time to write a fxxxxx book for you .

[Superforce99]

...I brought her to dinner. She is very cooperative and patient. She ordered a drink and we have a really good chat and I manage to get a company for dinner.

....She asked for rmb800 for LT but I don't agree with the price so I rejected.
Any ISG member willing to update me on the price for LT? I understand it should be around rmb400, right?


Dave,

I'm glad to hear that after bringing that LHL girl to dinner, you took her back to your hotel. I've had more than a few friends who came to Zhuhai, chatted with an LHL girl over dinner, then not take her back to the hotel causing all sorts of problems. These LHL girls are around only to make money, so their time is limited and their pimps are pressuring them ceaselessly to earn. Essentially the girl can't do anything against you if you take them to dinner then leave them high and dry, BUT "the word" can get around quickly to the other LHL girls and you'll potentially be offered terrible service from all the other LHL gals.

LT price can range from 600-800 depending on the girl and time of night; the prettier the girl and the earlier in the night, the more expensive, obviously.


J

[RasSpewtin]

I visited the sauna that has now become semi-infamous (thanks for Johnnykon) as the Black Ropes Sauna. Had a GREAT time.

I saw two line-ups, each with 6 or so girls. Average quality of appearance was 6 to high sevens. Picked the only one who made smiling eye contact, from Jiangxi. Turned out to be a good choice.

It had been way too long since I had last done the deed, so I asked her if it was OK if we did the grind first to relieve some stress, and then experience the myriad of services after. She was OK with that, but we never actually got past the making out part. Fine with me in this case.

She was very open and had few limitations, other than not wanting to kiss. That was likely OK, as I had a pretty good idea of a couple of places where those lips had been.

Top notch service. The only weird thing about this place is that for the average quality rooms, you need to shower in a communal facility, and then put your clothes in a locker. So you need to remember if you want to bring anything with you, such as your own raincoats or a small tip for the lady.

Total cost was 288 RMB after giving them a 50 RMB coupon. I got another coupon in return, so susequent visits should always be 288.

Highly recommended! Next time I go, and there will definitely be a next time, I will just lay back and actually let the gal go through the black ropes rituals.

Raz

[Jm 6379]

Really have to thank Johnnykon, Megapoint and Wapac for their exciting reports and directions to the Black Ropes. I just returned from Zhuhai and must say I had the most interesting f**k of my life so far!

Took #056, she wasn't much of a looker but had a fantastic body, very skillful and service was excellent.

Too bad I won't be going that way again anytime soon. Miss Zhuhai already.

[Jm 6379]

I'm a new poster here but really want to thank Johnnykon, Megapoint and Wapac for their reports and directions to the Black Ropes.

Can only say I just had the most interesting f**k of my life!

Took #056. She wasn't much of a look but had a smoking hot body. Her skills and service are excellent!

I'm back home now and don't see myself heading out there again anytime soon... Missing Zhuhai already.

[Charged Red]

First I'm going to admit I overpaid my hotel because I wasnt rtff. In my defense, I was so worned out from fxing so thats my excuse/reason I didn't read.

Edit, going to stick around for a few days, so if anyone is here and want to meet up PM me. Most of the seniors around here know who i am by now.
Nice change from CP.

So theres a few different Chang An hotels as mentioned. I ended up at Chang An Holiday hotel's (hotel is 5 stars, not sure why, maybe the decor of the KTV? ) steamy. 168 daytime special or plus 1 after 7pm plus the usual tip. Lineup had several 7's, actually pretty good for sn lineup. Good routine technique, all over water bubbles but no "gear work. " Room was also very clean. As I was leaving, saw some stunners in the lobby, so the KTV must do well with its 10/12/15 Lt rates per C/B/A teams

After a bit of rest, I wondered over to LHL. Saw the row of umbrellas but not approached by anyone. Was later told that there was a crack down in affect. I did see a few customers with company around the outdoor bars but certainly no handlers or lineups of any sort. Maybe some customers have regulars or maybe I just wasnt so approachable. I did see several 8+ leaving one 2F bar on the road with the tw big beetle nut sign.

Also felt that the girls in ZH don't wear as much of that crazy white makeup thats so common around CP. Similar stunners around the bar street. But all taken. Passed Club 8, its really too bad the pricing structure makes it so KTV arent discussed on this thread much. Getting nowhere in LHL, hailed a cab to find JK recommendation.

So jusco isn't that close, but got to see the other sn/KTV along the way. MH is a bit of a loner, had to ask 3 cabs till I found one that knew where it was, JK's directions are dead on. Arrived and requested a vip room w shower. 888 is a bigger room, so if you are going to pay extra, ask if this one is available. Manager offered overnite stay as well as 50 coupon. Line up was 6. 5 tops, higher if you don't look at face AT ALL. Politely held the two girls I was interested in and manager tiebroke by offering the more skilled girl out of the two. I didn't see any listed of the proverbs they use for all 42 plus activities. But she did do alot, even some I've never seen. Stopped her when she tried to light the dom on fire (would have been fun trying to explain that at the ER). Left happy with a better coupon, no room fee for next visit. So if they run out or don't offer the 50 off next vist, ask for one of these.

I think the play/variety was refreshing, but it really destroys the mood. She wasnt overtly methodical, but with so many skills/positions it was the dead oppisite of GFE.

Next few days will be spend locating stunners. Let me know if you have any advice. I've been reading the past discussion. The best looking ones, at least for me, haven't been the worst performers. The uglier ones do try harder to please. I guess the real question is, are they 15K beautiful.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Superforce99]

I just wanted to thank Charged Red for a hilarious time a few nights ago...

If anyone needs a smart and generous guy who is a great bullshiter in Chinese or English, a wingman, and 70s kung fu star lookalike, he's your man...

...and I now have a new classification of drunk, "Charged Red Drunk", which is likely the most fucked up I have ever seen someone without passing out, ha ha...


J

[Ero Sannin]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the forums.

I just got back from Zhu Hai last week and went to the sauna near the old Chang An. Got the VIP card there, so now every visit is only 260rmb ; also the friends I bring also get the same discounted price.

I have to go to Zhu Hai every 30 days, so if any members heading up mongering I'd love to tag along.

[Superforce99]

Anyone around ZH on Saturday morning want to split a private car ride to CP? There should be 2, maybe 3, so far, so your share would be about 110-130 RMB for a 2 hour ride there.

Planning to leave about 10am, arriving about 12 noon. Let me know ASAP.



J

[Ace Gallant]

Anyone around ZH on Saturday morning want to split a private car ride to CP? There should be 2, maybe 3, so far, so your share would be about 110-130 RMB for a 2 hour ride there.

Planning to leave about 10am, arriving about 12 noon. Let me know ASAP.

J Man. Johnny. For a post like that I bet you there will be some wankers out there who would start flaming you saying that it is likely you are make money out of this taxi and I bet you; he will be saying that he will be able to get the taxi cheaper than you do and perhaps you are paying Laowai price? Hahahaha. Just a Joke!

To those wankers: Save it! We already seen those kind of posts before! Don't need to flame our King of ZH or you risk been attacked on the board by all of us, the supporter of Johnny!

Anyways. Just for info; in amiss of all those suspicious posts about raids in CP; I had called into my regular mummies and BBS bosses (whom I know) They told me that there was some minor raids because of some complains at the police station about BBS having below permitted age girls, girls stealing from guest hotel rooms and also mummies harassing customer for more money or refusing to let customer out of their BBS unless they take one of their girls. Everything is back to normal the every same day or rather every same hour after the "Raids".

Two weeks ago, after I received the usual; "Where you? I missed You" Text from a ZH SWs (I had her twice before and is still in contact), I gave her a call. She had told me that she was rounded up recently in ZH but the police let her off after her mummy came to pay up a 500RMB fine for her. She had also said that there are more police /undercovers on the LHL these days but they hardy do any rounding up of girls.

Truth is, during this time of the year, they need to hit their quota and thus conduct more raids. The police know that they will not make the money out of us but it is the mummies and WGs they are targeting. So just keep your eyes and ears open, you’ll be fine. Do not let those posts scare you off!

Johnny, you are the man in ZH, what’s the situation like down there now? Updates please?

Enjoy!

AG

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[Old Mean Dog]

Man. Johnny. For a post like that I bet you there will be some wankers out there who would start flaming you saying that it is likely you are make money out of this taxi and I bet you; he will be saying that he will be able to get the taxi cheaper than you do and perhaps you are paying Laowai price? Hahahaha. Just a Joke!

To those wankers: Save it! We already seen those kind of posts before! Don't need to flame our King of ZH or you risk been attacked on the board by all of us, the supporter of Johnny!


EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Nobody would flame Johnny, I have met him and he is a a great guy and a wealth of knowledge. Looking forward to mongering with JK when he returns to CP or I get out to ZH.

Now,

Can someone tell me how a report like this gets a tag for Report of Distinction? Do the mods award it based on how many times a person can use the word "wanker" in a report?

Or

Do certain members, cut and paste the tag from legitimate RoD's, just to stroke their own egos??

Inquiring Minds Want to Know?

-CPE

BTW: Santa, Bill Lee, Gentilman Jim, myself and others are in CP 24/7, we see these raids, notice the heavy presence of cops and lack of mommies in mommy areas. Take it with a grain of salt.

[Bill Lee]

Do you guys recalled that recently that someone questioned the same poster how he got a RoD on his report and our poster showed off in a reply post that his one line reply could contain a RoD footnote?

But now that reply post is suspiciously gone.

I urge no one to use that technique. It would just ruin the system and pissed off our benefactor.

Bill

[Tiger 888]

Do you guys recalled that recently that someone questioned the same poster how he got a RoD on his report and our poster showed off in a reply post that his one line reply could contain a RoD footnote?

But now that reply post is suspiciously gone.

I urge no one to use that technique. It would just ruin the system and pissed off our benefactor.

BillThis game got a few of us into the moderation queue for some time a few weeks ago in the Shanghai thread. It even caught me, despite the fact that I wrote: Author's note in stead of Editor's note and that I added the word not.
It looked something like this, but in blue. Since Jackson didn't understand my joke, I post the specimen more colorful now not to violate any rule anymore.

Author'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will not post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Note: This was/is meant as a Joke and is now clearly marked as such!!!

[Admin]

Hi Guys,

I can't believe that I have to say this to my Senior Members, who I would normally assume, due to their long association with this forum, would simply know better, but here goes:

Don't mimic my comments. Don't do it in jest. Don't do it for fun. Don't emulate it with something similar. Don't even get close. In fact, don't post anything in small and / or colored fonts, don't post anything below your "signature", and don't post anything with the exact or similar words "Editor's Note".

I have enough work to do managing the Forum's many idiots. I DO NOT need my experienced Senior Members adding to my workload.

Get It?

Thanks,

Jackson

PS: Please report ALL violations of this limitation to me and I will delete the perpetrator. Thanks.

[Ace Gallant]

If I had put the Editor's note to my own report, Jackson would have deleted it. The fact that why Jackson did not delete it makes it obvious enough.

My advice to members: Please read the ROD FAQ, this is one mistake which many Senior Members also made; they assumed too much and thinks that they know it all.

Regards,

AG

[ABCinLA]

DAR425 and myself hit Lotus Road at about 130pm monday and IMHO its better than ever or close to it with numerous hotties. I would say I did an 8 from there at 4pm great BBBJ skills. DAR425 who has been going to this particular area longer says its been even better but we both agreed that it has much improved from its recent history. I had intended to hit the saunas; however, too many hot SWs to pick from.

[Dar425]

Me and ABCinLA were hanging out on LHL. Sometimes I walk between my hotel and the cafes so many times a day that I feel like a SW myself!


One of the flowers on LHL picked me up; her name is YangYang from Hubei (or Huban; I forget which). She was sitting between me and ABC for quite a long time really wanting me to take her. At this immediate time I didn't take her because me and ABCinLA had other upcoming plans, but she said I can call her 24x7, even if I want to play at 9am (there is usually not much action at 9am, so it's nice to have a few numbers you can call outside of the busy hours).

YangYang told me she has been here about 1 week, so she's new around here (asking if she likes LHL she was just kind of so-so about it). I'd put her about a 6 - 6.5 in the looks department. I know if I was sitting in a bar in the USA I'd rate her higher, but hey this is LHL!

ABCinLA, myself, and JohnnyKon hung out for a while, at it soon became about 3am. I was VERY VERY exhauted from lack of sleep over the previous few days an in dire need of sleep.. but when I got back to my hotel and showered, I decided that blowing my nuts would guarantee I would fall asleep this night, so I called YangYang who came to my room in about 5 minutes.

Guys, if you're looking to a NAUGHTY girl who loves to give REALLY naughty BBBJ, this is the girl !! She is aggressive in her sucking, and actually enjoys if you grab onto her head and thrust your dick in/out of her mouth. I'm not sure but she might've gagged a slight bit, but she didn't pull away and seemed to actually enjoy it. We did some kissing, and 69/DATY, and we were getting ready to do FS, when I decided that this BJ QUEEN who likes BBBJ and CIM needs to know the Dar Full Meal Deal, so I told her get back to her sucking of me and told her I was gunna shoot my nuts in her mouth. About 10 minutes more of some aggressive, fast BBBJ from her and I blew my nuts into mouth (CIM). She held me in her mouth until I was completely done (the got up and spit in the sink).

Other bonus is her English is actually pretty decent. I don't see too many LHL girls who can speak English, so it was a nice bonus. She said she learned English in college, where she studied 'computers' for 2 years... but 2 years was not enough to time to complete her education.

If you need her contact number, let me know in a PM.

As a last note, do know that she smokes. I did not smell it on her, but after the CIM and some laying together and talking, she asked if she could smoke in my room, which I said NO to her.

Dar

[Bill Lee]

We all recalled how one member showed off in putting a RoD note on an one liner post reply recently and now that post has suspiciously disappeared.

We don't need that person to lecture us on the rules when apparently the same rules don't apply to him.

A case of the sinner casting the first stone.

Bill

[Dar425]

Guys, sorry to make 2 posts in a row simply reviewing 2 of the LHL girls, but I am finding oral talents on LHL that seemed rare to find in the past.


Today I picked up XiaoLin, a 19yo Guangdong cutie. I rate her as cute, but not beautiful.

She gets the Dar distinction of being the DEEP THROAT QUEEN of LHL. I'm probably not the longest gentleman, so I challenge some of you snake charmers to find her limits, but it was an amazing feeling (and surprised me) when she took me all the into her mouth. Oh My God!! That last inch or so you can feel something amazing happen around the tip of your dick as she takes in ALL of you.


I met her the day before when sitting with ABCinLA at the umbrellas. She was sitting directly behind and playing a game of pushing the back of her chair up against me, and I'd reach around behind me without looking, and tickle her to get her to stop. It was her way of getting my attention.

She followed me around a bit, and I asked for her phone number (thinking to call her later) but she didn't have a phone at that time. Later in the evening that day she dropped a phone number in my lap. I called her up the next afternoon just after ABCinChina left for some Sauna action.

Guys, if you haven't experienced a deep throat BJ, give her a call.

Other services were LFK, some good CG action, and I ended things with more DeepThroat and CIM (she spits). She's a cute little sweetie. Not a perfection beauty queen, but I'll probably do her again for the DT experience!

You can PM me for her number, I'm keeping this one on 'do again' list.



Dar

[Old Mean Dog]

We all recalled how one member showed off in putting a RoD note on an one liner post reply recently and now that post has suspiciously disappeared.

We don't need that person to lecture us on the rules when apparently the same rules don't apply to him.

A case of the sinner casting the first stone.

Bill

Isn't that what that person is famous for? Do as I say, not as I do?? As many of us have speculated, maybe this person has a magic mod access, some RoD buddy and probably banned themselves for those 2 weeks, because they was losing the flame battle with another member (AP) just to rally supporters around him.

Of course I will be assaulted with "wanker" this and "wanker" that, but seems to me the only real "jack off" (I'm an American not Brit) is the one who won't let go.

-CPE

[Thuanvo]

I have US passport. Is it possible to get a VISA to Zhuhai at Macau International Airport? Do I need to go through Macau Immigration?

Thank you.

[OldAsiaHand]

There is visa service at the border crossing between Macau and Zhuhai. I think I remember some posts about it in the past. I cannot remember how US passports work. I have never done it, although I have friends that have. Some passports take only 30 minutes, while others take a couple of hours.

Maybe some other members can shed some light?

OAH


I have US passport. Is it possible to get a VISA to Zhuhai at Macau International Airport? Do I need to go through Macau Immigration?

Thank you.

[Asiaguy28]

Hi Dear Brother Dar425,

Can I have the Yang Yang phone num? I like you post very much, I wish I can have a try.

Thanks

[Ero Sannin]

There is visa service at the border crossing between Macau and Zhuhai. I think I remember some posts about it in the past. I cannot remember how US passports work. I have never done it, although I have friends that have. Some passports take only 30 minutes, while others take a couple of hours.

Maybe some other members can shed some light?

OAHThe visa place at the border does not do US passports. Only Australian, Canadian and others are applicable. If you carry a US passport you need to go to the Chinese embassy near the Sands Hotel.

[Ero Sannin]

Just a question to all you guys who are so lucky to get SW in Zh. I see them everywhere and can't get them to approach me. Sometimes I wish I had a t-shirt that says zuo ai or 150rmb take it or leave it. I dunno. Everytime I'm here I always go saunas. But that sorta experience is getting too repetative now. I mean I RTFF. The whole ZH forum. Perhaps I just look too young, but then again is 27 too young? Grrrr fustrated

Sorry for wasting everyones time who reads this. I just wanted to rant a bit from the new world chang an hotel.

BTW this hotel is really nice. I will be staying at this one from now on.

[Superforce99]

Just a question to all you guys who are so lucky to get SW in Zh. I see them everywhere and can't get them to approach me. Sometimes I wish I had a t-shirt that says zuo ai or 150rmb take it or leave it. I dunno. Everytime I'm here I always go saunas. But that sorta experience is getting too repetative now. I mean I RTFF. The whole ZH forum. Perhaps I just look too young, but then again is 27 too young? Grrrr fustrated

Sorry for wasting everyones time who reads this. I just wanted to rant a bit from the new world chang an hotel.

BTW this hotel is really nice. I will be staying at this one from now on.


I had that problem when I first came to Zhuhai, and believe me, it's not really luck/looks but more a combination of method and time of day.

I found out the problem was mostly the SWs thought I was an undercover cop (I have relatively clean cut looks and an athletic body) and I was very passive in my approach to them, hence I was seen as UC. But once you take one, the others will quickly get word and the next time you walk down the street will be very different than the first few frustrating times. Also, I've found early evening before 6pm and late night after 11pm are easier to pick up the SWs. And they are out there until about 2-3am at night. A lot of mongers have told me that LHL quality/quantity has improved a lot in the past few months, but I can't confirm this first-hand since I haven't mongered on LHL for a long while and have been busy working on my non-LHL stuff.

The easiest methods to SW success is: 1) sit at the open-air cafes on LHL and stare hard at the SWs you like 2) casually walk up to an SW and ask if she has a phone number (this has a double use in the case that the girl is not a SW but gives you her number anyway, ha...) 3) I can PM you some numbers and you can simply call them over to your hotel room.

_____________________

Also, anyone who wants to take a new comfortable sedan OR new 6-seat minivan from ZH to CP can contact me for the number of a cool regular driver I use. 350 RMB total for either the sedan or the minivan, a great deal especially for the minivan.

You can also keep this 350 number in mind when negotiating with drivers in the Gongbei area to drive you to CP. You could probably bargain down to 300 if you're willing to include a second passenger in the car with you. Most of the time, they will open at 600-700 RMB for a drive to CP, so now, you know better...



J

[Kenneth1979]

Hi bro,

Any good hotel recommendation for location and ambience.

4-5 star.

Thanks

[Kenneth1979]

Any good recommendation for hotels good location for pick up of gals and shopping nice ambience.

4-5 star in Zhuhai as I will be making my maiden trip there in Jan.

Thanks

[Waterfish7788]

Hi guys

Had being reading the forum for the past 3 hours and did a bit of research about where to go and wat to do.

Since this is Zuhai tread so i would only post the questions related to Zuhai here. Have a choice of hotels from the zuhai official trourism website and three of these had being shortlisted. Just wondering if any senior here can give a bit of comment or recommendation.

金都酒店
岐关大酒店
步步高大酒店

As i will be arriving late through macau. My worries are that they give my room away as i had read in some report stating such incident when rooms are given to other when the hotel can't contact the guest to comfirm their arrival. I will be arriving on the 5th Jan and around 7:30 pm.

Will be leaving for GuangZhou the next day and return to macau on the 8th again to pick up a few friends to start tour of macau, zuhai and shenzhen. Any members would like to hang out together for sauna and KTV just PM me.

Thanks

Waterfish7788

[Zhuhaifan]

Just a question to all you guys who are so lucky to get SW in Zh. I see them everywhere and can't get them to approach me. Sometimes I wish I had a t-shirt that says zuo ai or 150rmb take it or leave it. I dunno. Everytime I'm here I always go saunas. But that sorta experience is getting too repetative now. I mean I RTFF. The whole ZH forum. Perhaps I just look too young, but then again is 27 too young? Grrrr fustrated

Sorry for wasting everyones time who reads this. I just wanted to rant a bit from the new world chang an hotel.

BTW this hotel is really nice. I will be staying at this one from now on.But hey, ABCinLA just said a few posts down that there are hot SWs everywhere right now on LHL. I don't understand why you're having so much trouble, maybe you're just unlucky enough to be there on a day right after a raid/bust?

BTW, when I was in Zhuhai in 2006 there was no problem finding SWs on LHL. They would run up to me without me doing anything. But things got worse in 2007 and usually the only people who approach me are the annoying aggressive pimps. One thing I tried is to look more like a tourist, like carrying a backpack, a camera, act if you're clueless, or something like that.

[Zhuhaifan]

Just a question to all you guys who are so lucky to get SW in Zh. I see them everywhere and can't get them to approach me. Sometimes I wish I had a t-shirt that says zuo ai or 150rmb take it or leave it. I dunno. Everytime I'm here I always go saunas. But that sorta experience is getting too repetative now. I mean I RTFF. The whole ZH forum. Perhaps I just look too young, but then again is 27 too young? Grrrr fustrated

Sorry for wasting everyones time who reads this. I just wanted to rant a bit from the new world chang an hotel.

BTW this hotel is really nice. I will be staying at this one from now on.Also I just want to say man. Even if you're having a hard time finding SWs. GET OUT THERE. Do something, anything. Don't stay in your hotel room! You need to use every minute of your precious vacation time wisely!

[Ero Sannin]

Back from ZH and wanted to post a short report.

Mentioned in my earlier post that I couldn't get the SW to approach me. Well I finally got approached. By a SW who I would give a solid 4. The SW approached me around 3am as I was leaving from the old chang an sauna. Now I was in a pretty pissed off mood because one of the girls I chose at the old chang an was a ***** and gave me a ***** attitude towards the end because I took too long to finish. Her number was #111. Careful guys. Shes cute on the outside but a ***** on the inside.

Damn I hate mongering by myself. Sorry I'm just ranting again

Btw being a real perv and forcing yourself to check out the SW really works in getting their attention. I guess I was eye shy before. Since I'd only look at them when their not looking at me.

[OldAsiaHand]

Kenneth1979:

There are no good hotels in Zhuhai. All of them are far away from the action. All the shopping is a rip-off. If these statements sound unbelievable then:

RTFF.

OAH





Any good recommendation for hotels good location for pick up of gals and shopping nice ambience.

4-5 star in Zhuhai as I will be making my maiden trip there in Jan.

Thanks

[Hainanien]

Yea, in most locales with SWs, ya gotta let them know you're interested, either by looking with interest, approaching one in view of the others, taking one to your room or getting numbers.

There is a short, thicker but not fat girl workin there I took back once, pretty good English & big tits. She sounded & looked good walking to my room but after a couple minutes she complained about pain/size to the point of making it no fun anymore. If you meet one matching this description, ask her if she can handle a normal sized guy & make sure to let her know before that she'll not get full fair if she doesn't let you get all the way in & stay there any length of time.

Also, it's common for the girls there to use up or pocket some of the pricy hotel soap things for sale on the bathroom counter, at 10rmb a sachet, easy to find over 50rmb tacked onto your room bill at check out. I put them in the closet or someplace out of easy view before goin out.

Mongering alone takes out some of the available options for me too, I'm shy & feel awkward going into establishments, so often, I find the SWs. Witch is not a bad thing, specially in cities with plenty choice & low costs.

[Qball]

You don't need a 'make love' shirt, that is just unwanted attention. However if you walk around with a shirt like this one you'll get approached and to top it off, you'll probably get a few giggles because they'll know what's up and you'll know what's up, and the world is a happier place.

Comes in black or white, printed on american apparel shirts.


Just a question to all you guys who are so lucky to get SW in Zh. I see them everywhere and can't get them to approach me. Sometimes I wish I had a t-shirt that says zuo ai or 150rmb take it or leave it. I dunno. Everytime I'm here I always go saunas. But that sorta experience is getting too repetative now. I mean I RTFF. The whole ZH forum. Perhaps I just look too young, but then again is 27 too young? Grrrr fustrated

Sorry for wasting everyones time who reads this. I just wanted to rant a bit from the new world chang an hotel.

BTW this hotel is really nice. I will be staying at this one from now on.

[Chopsuey]

Any good recommendation for hotels good location for pick up of gals and shopping nice ambience.

4-5 star in Zhuhai as I will be making my maiden trip there in Jan.

ThanksFor whatever it is worth. I prefer to stay at the Harborview hotel which is a five star hotel and has a very nice sauna and massage service. It's by the International Conference Center. There are a few nice restaurants around there to choose from as well as those of the hotels.

At the sauna, it will cost you about 1000 rmb inclusive of tip unless the prices have been raised.

The hotel is a bit out of the way in relationship to the downtown area, but it's an easy 10 to 20 minute cab ride away and about 20 rmb.

As for shopping, go to Hong Kong, much better selection.

[Manfest]

You don't need a 'make love' shirt, that is just unwanted attention. However if you walk around with a shirt like this one you'll get approached and to top it off, you'll probably get a few giggles because they'll know what's up and you'll know what's up, and the world is a happier place.

Comes in black or white, printed on american apparel shirts.

Nice! Where do I get one?

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi guys

Had being reading the forum for the past 3 hours and did a bit of research about where to go and wat to do.

Since this is Zuhai tread so i would only post the questions related to Zuhai here. Have a choice of hotels from the zuhai official trourism website and three of these had being shortlisted. Just wondering if any senior here can give a bit of comment or recommendation.

金都酒店
岐关大酒店
步步高大酒店

As i will be arriving late through macau. My worries are that they give my room away as i had read in some report stating such incident when rooms are given to other when the hotel can't contact the guest to comfirm their arrival. I will be arriving on the 5th Jan and around 7:30 pm.

Will be leaving for GuangZhou the next day and return to macau on the 8th again to pick up a few friends to start tour of macau, zuhai and shenzhen. Any members would like to hang out together for sauna and KTV just PM me.

Thanks

Waterfish7788To waterfish 7788,

Zhu hai have many hotel the one on your list is all 3 star near Gongbei border cost is about 200 rmb a night 30% higher on friday and saturday zhu hai get many weekender from Hong kong an Macau and most of hotel have sauna with full service cost is 300 rmb average for 3 star and there are over 150 of this sauna all over Zhu Hai.

Fast eddie 48

[MegaPoint]

Kenneth1979:

There are no good hotels in Zhuhai. All of them are far away from the action. All the shopping is a rip-off. If these statements sound unbelievable then:

RTFF.

OAH

Unlike almost every other city in China, Zhuhai has been laid out with some attention to civic planning, and it is spaciously conceived. As a result, EVERYTHING is far from everything else. So there is no use complaining about hotels being far from the action. Just take a taxi when you want to get somewhere.

If you're not into the cheaper hotels in Gongbei, I recommend the Harbor View Resort Hotel , it's centrally located on the seaside corniche between Gong Bei and Xiang Zhou, girl friendly, very comfortable and has a grumpy German master chef who makes sure the food is good (by Western standards) and lays on an exemplary buffet breakfast. There is a sauna there, which I have not tried. Next time.

[Kenneth1979]

Hi bro Waterfish7788

Care to meet up?

I will be in Zhuhai from 8-11 Jan.

Arriving in the evening

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[John Smiley]

SW on main drag near Seascape hotel are getting better and better. Picked one that was a 7 and as had no room she found a hotel around the corner for R40 for the hour. Her fee was R200 and would not budge . She did waste a lot of time finding the room and using her ID card to book the room so gave her some latitude on charging extra. Still from the 5 SW there they were really chatty, smiling and joking with this white guy and I wished I had the energy to have fun with them all.

[Superforce99]

Megapoint,

FYI, OldAsiaHand was kidding around...it was his way to tell Kenneth1979 to read the forum and not ask lame-ass, useless info-leech questions.



Now a few ZH-related updates:

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A strange experience last week at the infamous DMY. Brought a white, non-Chinese speaker to the sauna, negotiated to have a two-girl session (380 RMB, 90 minutes, the best deal in ZH hands-down) but after I left, he called me up saying the girls left after the manager interrupted them during the initial shower. The manager went on to explain to me over the phone that due to a "special Christmas policy", there was no sauna service available and my friend would have to leave. The manager had already refunded my friend's money at this point. Nothing I could do, so he got dressed and left. I went back with the same guy but added two Asian-looking foreigners and got a strange runaround where they claimed no sauna was available and foot massages would be arranged immediately. As we all left, plenty of Chinese mongers with their green tags being shown to the sauna rooms downstairs...

As a test, the two Asian-looking foreigners went back on their own a hour or so later and...no problems.

This has NEVER happened before with the dozens of white, non-Chinese speakers I've brought to DMY, so my question is: What's up with you white, non-Chinese speakers I don't know who are fucking things up at DMY??? Ha ha...it doesn't affect me at all, but your white monger brothers are paying for whatever stupid/annoying/ignorant shit you fools are doing...

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I've seen a relatively large influx of new girls onto the LHL scene in the past month or so. I'm not into the LHL scene and haven't done a girl from there in almost 8-10 months now, but I've been going to LHL an unusually high number of times recently to meet up and hang out with visitors to ZH. And I still update my list of numbers from ISG guys who come to Zhuhai and have good experiences with LHL gals, so let me know if you need some contacts, though I can't personally vouch for them.

And if you want to find/fuck one of these LHL gals, make it easier for yourself by making it easier for the girls. Make HARD eye contact with anyone you're interested in. Don't be a wallflower/shy/etc...everyone on LHL knows what you are looking for if you're talking to these girls, the "normal girls/people" see it everyday and don't care, and if you're shy about it, you shouldn't be on LHL looking for LHL gals. Go to a sauna instead.

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ZH-related tips: if you are in Gongbei/LHL area and want to head up to Xiangzhou to try out the black ropes, other local saunas, the Wan Zai Sha Computer City, or go to JUSCO for whatever reason, you can bargain with a taxi driver to bring you there for a 20 RMB flat rate (the later at night, the better this works). It will usually take anywhere from 25-30 RMB using the taxi meter. In addition to saving money, it entices the taxi driver to get to your destination much faster. And this pricing works in reverse going back to Gongbei, ofcourse. Save that 10 RMB on a couple of beers, sodas, light meal, or whatever.

And also, if it's after 12 midnight, the taxi meters in ZH go from 10RMB to 13 RMB. But if you're anywhere in Gongbei and want to head to DMY, offer 10 RMB. The first or second taxi driver may refuse, but you'll find a taker in less than 1 minute. And this pricing works in reverse going back to Gongbei, ofcourse. Save that 3RMB for a beer, soda, or whatever.

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Nothing much else to report on the ZH since a recent spate of back-to-back-to-back-to-back freebie experiences has taken up all my time/energy/sperm, and that's not even suggesting it's a good thing, just different and not much use to the forum guys. Though I can say that asking friends, male and female (including P4P gals), to introduce you to available/interested gals has worked wonders this past month.




J

[ABCinLA]

Ah, back in China after a couple of weeks of family holiday stuff. Hit Lotus Road running. I normally spend alot of time in the nearby saunas; however, ran into too many Lotus Road SWs with 8 plus bodies. But as always its hit and miss depending on the time of day. However, it does appear they work in shifts and the day shift girls appear to be much better looking or my sorry ass ancient eyes can make out their figures better in the light of day. Better yet if they hassle me while I'm sitting at one of the bars I take it as an opportunity to grope them to check out real tit size and true waist measurements and let them know I like "big tits on a small frame". In fact I passed on one who had some serious padding to "El Doktor" who doesn't care for the big tits as much as I do but she did have a very cute face. I did run into a 9.5 plus body with a cute young face in need of dentures whose on lotus road in the day time hours. Her skills weren't great especially in the BJ area as she's young/new to the business; but I'll be happy to pass on her mommie's cell to senior members. I was with "El Doktor" who got scammed by a SW with great BBBJ skills who promised all night at 400 but skipped after one session. Her name was Yang Yang and El Doktor had paid her after one session (she was really good in story telling to El Doktor) when they both took off to the nearby internet cafe.

[Beijing Lover]

I'm a caucasian, I don't speak a word of Chinese and I was in DMY on Wednesday without any problems.
Service was great.
The girl was amazing and I was given the normal treatment by the manager and other staff.
I'm a regular there since I visit the place at least once a week, usually during the afternoon.
I know that we have to understand and and respect the girls limits and not demand certain services which may not be available.
DMY, for me, is still the best deal in town.

Beijing Lover





A strange experience last week at the infamous DMY. Brought a white, non-Chinese speaker to the sauna, negotiated to have a two-girl session (380 RMB, 90 minutes, the best deal in ZH hands-down) but after I left, he called me up saying the girls left after the manager interrupted them during the initial shower. The manager went on to explain to me over the phone that due to a "special Christmas policy", there was no sauna service available and my friend would have to leave. The manager had already refunded my friend's money at this point. Nothing I could do, so he got dressed and left. I went back with the same guy but added two Asian-looking foreigners and got a strange runaround where they claimed no sauna was available and foot massages would be arranged immediately. As we all left, plenty of Chinese mongers with their green tags being shown to the sauna rooms downstairs...

As a test, the two Asian-looking foreigners went back on their own a hour or so later and...no problems.

This has NEVER happened before with the dozens of white, non-Chinese speakers I've brought to DMY, so my question is: What's up with you white, non-Chinese speakers I don't know who are fucking things up at DMY??? Ha ha...it doesn't affect me at all, but your white monger brothers are paying for whatever stupid/annoying/ignorant shit you fools are doing...


J

[Fast Eddie 48]

I'm a caucasian, I don't speak a word of Chinese and I was in DMY on Wednesday without any problems.

Service was great.

The girl was amazing and I was given the normal treatment by the manager and other staff.

I'm a regular there since I visit the place at least once a week, usually during the afternoon.

I know that we have to understand and and respect the girls limits and not demand certain services which may not be available.

DMY, for me, is still the best deal in town.

Beijing LoverBejing lover,

I been to DMY many time and I agree is the best Sauna deal in china and laowei is welcome and I have been there with my american friend many time ,I think is just during Xmas they don't want any problem because too much drinking and drunk laowei around .

Fast eddie 48

[El Doktor]

I did get scammed, but I knew it was BS going in. 400 for all night was obviously not going to happen. Yang Yang was relentless at the bar, pushing for all night, when what I really wanted was to wander off to a sauna, so when she "agreed" to 400 for the night I went along with it. A friendly girl, as ABCinLA says, good oral skills, but she took a powder at the internet cafe.

As I say, I knew she was going to rip me off going in. This way the damage was limited to paying an extra 200 for short time. It could have been worse.

Also, when ABCinLA was writing up his report, she wandered past us in the wang ba. She seemed a bit uncomfortable, so there's that.

[Wapec]

had a day off work on the 21st dec before hopping on a plane the 23rd heading to europe. had post-new year plans set for a monger trip to germany so what better way to get the party started than a zh sauna binge ?

the primary goal was to fit in as many sauna's back to back in 24 hours. a secondary goal was to be able to compare them within as a close a time period as possible assuming my balls didn't run dry or explode.

establishments frequented include: new chang an, jin yue, ming hao & mai hao. all were in gongbei except mai hao which is in xiangzhou. i bussed my way around which you're unlikely to do if you can't speak chinese so i won't waste time with directions; more can be found in the forum. the report is not complete and i plan to do a follow up also covering da ming yang (did once long ago was non-plussed so due a revisit) & old chang an.

new chang an (nca)

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walk in the hotel, head for the lift and guess the floor. 3 is always a good bet. another is to look for the sauna poster in the lift and guess the floor from the chinese character strokes. spoke to the laoban and explained that i was on an investigative mission of great import (yanshi - erotic adventure) which spurred much discussion and banter. we agreed that the stakes were high and the pride of her establishment was on the line.

brought in a couple of line ups. chose #26 from the 4th line up - ms. qian from icy cold harbin about 1 month in zh. nothing wrong with the previous line ups except that on principle i never choose from the first two (based on personal experience). in fact nca quality is a step above that around gongbei.

went for a shower, we washed each other, i used the opportunity to strike up a conversation (also since this is non-actionable time it makes sense to use it to get a rapport), dried each other down and so the experience begins. good massage front and back (i asked for oil on my back and talc on my front). suction suck from my shoulder, back to knee. followed by watery cat licks which i indicated could be dispensed with since its a hard slog for a gal as i am hairy monster (i usually joke by saying that i am their little teddy bear before giving them a cuddle again to keep the friendliness/intimacy going).

odd thing happened next. she stuck cling film (plastic sheet like you wrap sandwiches in) on my feet and started sucking, teeth skating & tonguing them. i nearly kicked her in the face as it tickled so much but on this she wouldn't give in no matter what i said. she said it would build my endurance and sensitivity (mingan). onto bbbj which was masterfully done.

there has been much comment about the quality, ability to give and / or cultural affinity to provide bbbj. in my experience, generally foreplay (qianxì) is not highly rated within china (even between married people) for reasons exacerbated by the cultural revolution (the reasons existed beforehand too). so to obtain extended play does require a little patience and explanation with the gal involved. encouragement goes a long way as does specific instruction. if she shows an interest and is attentive then you can also consider explaining the reciprocal benefits in terms of her self pleasure (ziwei or shouyin but definitely not zidu which has negative conoctations). whether it is wise to reciprocate with a professional is a personal decision that each monger must weigh for themselves.

much is to be said for the advice shared by oah (i think) of encouragement along the lines of "wo juede hen hao". in ms qian's case i saw that she was inspecting me whilst wiping my jade viper (yubang) before pressing the tip to her chin. so taking a chance i suggested that she caress (fumo), lick (shunwen), suck (suo) & swallow/lick/spit (tuntu-shunza). as i said, time was invested upfront and strategically building a friendly rapport to enable this type of conversation. whilst gently stroking her loins, i explained that even in ancient times chinese courtesans (shengmiingjì) would be praised & prized by their master for playing an instrument (chui laba [horn] / xiao [flute]). to be honest, i don't know whether its the words that work or the fact that a foreigner takes the time to speak to them about such topics in dynastic terms they can relate to ? to be more honest i don't care so long as i got ms. qian inbetween my legs (chakoujiao), hearing me say it feels good (kuaigan) and not to make me gush forth (bu laijingluan / bu penchu). anyway, ms. qian got the message and gave my pecker a full 40 mins of individual attention with enquiries about which movements were most compelling. it was amongst the best bbbj's that i've received and i'd go so far as to say that she was infatuated with the little man (chimi xiio didi).

finished up with a couple of positions - reverse cowgirl (dui niu shangwei shi), tit fuck (ruqiu jiao), missionary (chuan jiao shi) and girl on top (qi cheng ti). finally, laying her on her side, holding open one of ms. qian's legs i sideways (tuigujiao) fucked her to a climax (xinggao chao).

we hugged and spoke for the time that was left before showering down again.

looks: 8/10
service: 7/10
expertise: 7.5/10
attention: 9/10
height: 5' 9"
hair: black shoulder length
eyes: large
breasts: typical mounds (rufeng)
body: athletic well conditioned
revisit: yes
facilities: 8/10

nb: unusually they didn't have a loyalty card but did offer a repeat business discount voucher. anybody has more comment to share ?

jin yue (jy)
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not universally rated but jy is always on my list as worthwhile for consideration. mostly 'cos i've been going there a couple of years now and receive a great welcome from the management and girls alike. guess its like a armistice where all sides come to a mutually agreeable arrangement. i rang first to check if one of more regular girls was working. she was which was great on two counts: i didn't have to go hawking to another district to meet close to her home and i could deliver her xmas present.

was met out of the lift by #3 with a big hug, smile and a peck on the cheek. it had been a couple of months since i saw her but we'd been in touch by sms. we sat by the pagoda area in a corner nook chatting for 30 mins or so. lots to catch up on - like two mandarin ducks (yuanyang). let's not be coy and foolish here. there is no fooling myself or her that this was a romantic liason. it wasn't but we enjoy each others company with sex that rates from good to fantastic (from time to time).

we went to a quiet room away from the main customer room corridor and had a good hot time. no wasting time with another shower just said i was busy earlier (piaochang), no recriminations or complaints. she just called me seguilang [sex pervert]. only thing to do was to make her pay for the comment and did she work up a sweat. lust, passion, heat, oils, chocolate sauce, whipped cream, spice and all things naughty and nice. a good session but one that can't fully described due to special circumstances with the lady. if anybody visits her be nice and be a gentleman; the lady deserves the respect. (note: i've been deliberately vague about the details of #3).

washed up and was walking out when i was reminded about the xmas prezzie. the boy done good and earned some brownie points. who can argue with a clamped hug and a tongue down the throat ? agreed to meet up early in the new year since she promised a special treat. hmmn ..... duty free is a wonderful thing really.

looks: 7/10
service: 9/10
expertise: 9/10
attention: 10/10
height: 5' 6"
hair: black waist length
eyes: small but crystal clear
breasts: milk balls (ruqiu) [global average but good/well proportioned for a chinese gal]
body: curvey
revisit: multiple times
facilities: 6.5/10 [in general]

discount voucher is the norm here for next visit.

ming hao (mih)
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off for a bite to eat and coffee to build up the strength. ok and to dry out my hair before sauna number 3 mih. this was a bit of a revelation on my last visit but i considered it in isolation. how does it stack up against the competition ?

toddle up to the 3/f. walk in, show the loyalty card i garnered from the last time. announced to the lăoban that this was my last visit on my investigative journey for that night. my quest for top establishment was roundly discussed by all of the welcome crew and i was assured that i was at a place that came highly recommended. more laughs when i asked to see the recommendations & were they from anybody that i knew. warmly shown to a room which i explained wasn't to my liking as planned to sleep over -it was well past mid night. shown to another room that was better.

3 lineups later i chose #891 - ms. li from shandong 7 weeks in zh. the level of eye contact and engagement by the gals during the selection process was exemplary. nca was also high but a little more reserved or deferential depending on your tastes. what is it about northern gals ?

during the initial shower as she washed my diao and cleaned out my ding things took a turn for the better and all deference disappeared. she washed the soap off with a slowly rythmnic bj , ball suck (kougaowan), and ar (gugou piyan koutian). i was unexpectedly rock hard (cucuqiaoqiaoyingying) so early on. in fact, i was led slippery and wet (jianhua) to the bed and towelled dry whilst with one hand she lubed my tool (shounianye). frankly, i was taken a back by the dominance (changsan). turns out that ms. li had some experiences with foreign men from which she concluded being assertive was a winner. i pointed out that i could not disagree with the impact as i was hard (shiyin) but that i did not want the fire of desire (yu huo) to peter out before i had made this spicy girl (la nu) my bedmate (tongfang wan ban ren).

ms. li was a trooper if nothing else. she stopped pounding my knob and clenched my left nipple (naitou) between her teeth and teased me wickedly. she slipped between my legs and proceeded to deliver a hip fuck (tunbu jiao) ie: holding my jolly roger between her thighs and molesting my foreskin (baopi). protesting that i was already tired after two earlier trysts met with the response from ms. li straight to my face that i wouldn't be coming quickly so just enjoy it (lai gan wo pei bengguo gen yunyu keshi chachazi nide shejīng bu hen kuai). this made me stop and think because the references she used were to pieces of poetry - bengguo = beating pots & yunyu = mingling of water and clouds. she clearly must have had her own fantasy as its not a reasonable expectation for her to think i would know such cloaked references to classical chinese poetry. i don't know much poetry just bits and pieces that i picked up from a poetry major in beijing in my innocent distant past so long ago that i have my doubts it ever existed). my response is as it should have been to grope (monu) this budding flower girl (huaniang).

reverse cowgirl (dui niu shangwei shi), tit fuck (ruqiu jiao), missionary (chuan jiao shi), girl on top (qi cheng ti), she pulled by buttocks apart and dove into the depths giving ar (gugou piyan koutian) all the way around this dingdong xiaojie went to tease my prenium (guitou) and laying her on her side i shafted her sideways (tuigujiao) before turning her over on her front and began doing her doggy style (hou jin shi / gou pa shi). she lifted herself up and back breathing deep with sweat running down her back. ms. li had the most slender hourglass waist, hips and ass (mìfengman) that my cock swelled (jība pengzhang), as i put my finger into her asshole (choucha houhu), massaged her rear cave (anmo li xiaojie de dongxue) and my meat stick (roubang) shot its wad in her meat dungeon (rouqiu). she swayed slowly for what felt like an eternity and i released her ass hole by removing my finger. we fell on the bed beside each other, caught our breaths, kissed longingly and fondled each other.

20 mins later i went to move to the shower and she said second shot (shuang feng as opposed to shuang fei [double team]). i was jizzed out and another round wasn't in me or so i thought. she asked if i knew about budha's hands (bofo shou). i didn't but i do now. basically, she jacked me off (nalu) but the twist comes in the combination of multi speed, synchronised hand switches with rotating the cock 360 dgrees forward / backward / sideways. it must have been 25 to 30 mins of spit and polish before i squelched out a miniscule dribble with a whimper (shenyin).

we washed. she got out the bed clothes and ordered some food & drinks before leaving. she did mention that it was a slow night and she felt like she had lots of energy pent up. i asked if she still felt that way and she confirmed that she was relieived. i on the other hand was definitely relieved - stressed and relieved. she left and fell into a deep sleep until the following midday.

looks: 8/10
service: 9/10
expertise: 9/10
attention: 9/10
height: 5' 4"
hair: black knee length
eyes: large round piercing
breasts: flat but not dead flat (bu feiji chang)
body: slim, petite, curvy - waist / ass curvature is amazing on such a small frame
revisit: yes - goddess (shennu)
facilities: 8/10

mai hao (mah)
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woke up, went for lunch near jusco and did a spot of shopping. 4 hours before i had to head back home. wandering into mai hao on you guessed which floor. took out the loyalty card and presented it to mr. xu ting ting who is indeed a chatty chappie. was shown to my room - shower etc included. what the hell, guys, i am grading on a curve anyways!

4th line up presented and i choose #681 - ms. lee from jiangxi 3 months in zh. a bit of a pocket rocket in a tiny tied up parcel. mah is known for its extensive and some would say exhaustive repetoire comprising of more than 40 menu items. i had visited previously but only got thru about 15 menu items. not so under the controlling ms. lee - she was a woman on a mission.

short summary for those tired reading. this gal fucking ravaged (zaota) my ass to the point where it could have surrendered and applied for a greek passport. i had to take her to task and calm her down for the sanctity of my rectum.

shower followed by a sitting mild bbbj seated under the cascading water. dry down and to the bed. there were cushions, red ropes, black ropes, fire and ice, ice cubes, parafin bulbs lit on my foreskin, handcuffs, vibrator (which i had target practice on her while suspeded on the ropes), a dildo with an 18 inch extension (more suspended animation) and even a bamboo shaft water experience !!!! yes i kid you not. it was nothing short of overwhelming. 5 blowjobs in 5 different positions: on top, underneath, sideways, vertically & suspended !!!!! i did learn a new word (yangju = sex tool). though i must say that my dictionaries are enquired upon under less stressful conditions.

whilst suspended my ass was washed. cleaned and dug out before i was surrendered to one of the three angled cushions where ar, licking, sucking and vacumning noises ensued. intimidating as it was the sound of a battery powered appendage required a halt to proceedings. my ass was at stake and i wasn't going to be enveigiled over a cushion waiting for god knows what to happen or not. i got up took the electrical device from her nimble hands and asked if she, the teacher, would like to submit ? she was somewhat taken a back and protested that she had a menu list to comply with. i told her that i was an unruly student and about the rebel against the teacher authority figure.

i held her across my knees and gently spanked her bum. repeating all the while "naughty teacher must learn" (huai laoshi gai xuede). this was enough time for me to gather my thoughts, keeping her at bay without freaking her, so i tickled her and made her laugh. she sat up and i suggested that she not worry so much about the menu list or keeping to schedule. she was, however, worried about the management (guess they must keep tight tabs on service and performance levels) but i calmed her by saying that i'd been there before and would give a good report for good service.

ms. lee visibly relaxed and i ended up asking lots of questions where happily took on the role of guide answering things like how, what and lots of if's. she had a decent personality, good perspective and lots of interesting stories to tell from a long list of experiences. wow ! she been and done an awful lot for such a young tiny gal.

we ended up having an extended time, good session where there was more room for give and take. but it was simply overwhelming due to the start. wouldn't reflect negatively too much on ms. lee though. first time in a long time that i've had to take control of a situation to stop it gaining a momentum i wasn't completely comfortable with.

kept my word and delivered a good report to mr. xu and suggested that they allow some flexibility to the roster so that variety could be introduced. was very careful that i presented it as a management strategy to benefit customers and allow the gals some room for creativity.

looks: 7.5/10
service: 7/10
expertise: 9/10
attention: 6/10
height: 5' 0"
hair: black short with mini pigtails
eyes: medium
breasts: nice rack on a diminuitive frame
body: firm and petite
revisit: probably with the benefit of doubt - its undoubtedly an experience
facilities: 9/10

anyway, i chilled out reclining in the main seating area chatting with customers, waitresses and management for an hours or so before hopping into a taxi to catch the boat home. picked up my case, ticket and made my way to the airport for xmas in europe. see my post under germany (bernds and samya) of my stop over on the way back to asia (the second week of my three week binge before i go into hibernation). still have old chang an and dmy to visit and compare in zh.

editor's note: i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Sparky Boy]

That was a great post Wapec, thanks for all that information.

I've never been to Zhuhai but will go to Zhuhai soon. I've been reading the Zhuhai threads a bit and just wanted to ask a quick noobie question.

Is the Jin Yu hotel and the Jin Yue hotel/sauna the same place or not the same?

I managed to find a travel agent link to Jin Yu hotel http://www.easyzh.com/en/detail~id~62.html

Thanks.

[Cavechu]

thanks Wapec, fine piece of field reporting with attached Chinese wording usage lesson, for non-chinese speaker. Definitely a Reports of Distinction material.

[RasSpewtin]

I made my third visit to the Black Ropes place a few days ago. And to tell you the truth, I still have absolutely no idea what those fucking black ropes are actually used for. Now you would think that after 3 visits, I would have experienced it approximately 3 times, and would fully comprehend their purpose. Nope. Why not? Well, it kinda goes like this……..

Last night’s lineups were really quite decent. I saw only two lineups before making my selection, and each lineup had 5 girls, of which 2 were quite attractive (or as Johnny likes to say, they were quite do-able). I chose a 21-year-old cutie from Sichuan province. She was tall and sweet. When she undressed she revealed matching underwear. I appreciate that in a girl. They always get extra points for knowing how to wear a matching tie and handkerchief.

She asked if I wanted to experience the full menu of service, and I answered that yes I would. And so out came the black ropes, and she tethered them to the metal rack that is attached to the ceiling. She opened up the large and clumsily square-shaped Pandora’s Box that they all carry for transporting their goodies, and out came enough antibacterial sprays and potions to kill a small army of nasty microbes. She proceeded with the cat bath, which was fun enough. She embellished her slurps with believable giggles that added to the sense that this was going to be a mutually playful experience.

And then she removed her bra, and I saw two of the supplest breasts and perfectly appointed nipples that I have yet to see. She asked if I wanted her to continue with the service (what the fuck do they call it, fu-mu or fu-u, I can never tell). I glanced upwards at the rather gothic-looking contraption of steel bars and black ropes overhead, and imagined how she would hang upside down from that while she struggled to get my dick into her mouth. Then I glanced at her flawless body, and imagined how easy it would be to position myself over her face and stuff it into her mouth without the need to struggle with the aid of paraphernalia. I hadn’t had any in a while, and this was quickly turning into a no-brainer.

She asked me again, “What would you like?” I replied that I wanted to be her boyfriend for the next hour or so. As dumb as that must have sounded to her, it seemed to work. She turned into this warm and responsive sex bomb that every guy wants his girlfriend to be.

And so ensued an hour of tangled arms and limbs, with her saying something about her head being in the sky, and me uttering nasty dirty boy phrases in English that made as much sense to her as Swahili does to me. It was exactly what I needed.

At the end of the session, I slipped a small wad of 10’s into her Pandora’s Box, and she asked me why I had tipped her. I looked at her with a puzzled expression, and replied, “Because I like you.” Yeah, I know what you guys are thinking. Aw gosh and golly gee, isn’t Raz a sap! Thanks for the compliment, and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off.

Raz

[Superforce99]

Just got a chance to read Wapec's report and...wow. Not only very detailed and educational on several levels, he actually had four good sauna experiences back-to-back-to-back-to-back, which is the most amazing thing of all, from my standpoint.

Ha ha, ladies and gentlemen, there he goes, the King of ZH Saunas, Wapec...


J


PS. Wapec, how could you not enthrall your readers with details concerning the "light your dick on fire with alcohol" service at Mai Hao?? Ha ha...insane-sounding but essentially harmless

PPS. Yes, the Jin Yu sauna is in the Jin Yu Hotel. Same deal with the New Chang An, Old Chang An, DMY, and most of the sauanas in ZH. They are usually part of an actual hotel but independently managed.

And ofcourse that means if you stay in the hotel, it's super convienent to go down a few floors for a sauna or just call a sauna gal directly to your room (usually at a discount, too).

[Wapec]

Raz,

You sweetie the world needs more people like you. Fuck anybody that says otherwise. Well maybe not actually fuck them unless they're female ....

Joking aside what matters is that a session or any session works both in the head and in the bed. Sorry my teenage years and twenties are behind me.

My experience of the black ropes was that she hung me by my ankles with my torso on one of the angled cushions. kinda like forming a two sided triangle. She positioned herself under my cock and proceeded to suck and slobber. You need a good back for it as you definitely come away stretched - front and back.

The other variation that happened was for me to put my arms through the black ropes and my legs in the red ropes. Only way I can explain it is that I tried to flap like a birds wings. I know what a fucking image (I'm not a slim whippet either so it was not a pretty sight) but there you go. She sits under you and sucks away or fondles you. This required a huge amount of concentration not only to balance yourself spread eagled hanging outta the ceiling but also to not fuck up the flapping and come down and whack the gals heads off. I'll try most things once but this is not for me.

Well you get why I was intimidated and concerned. Taking control of the situation was the only answer. My first time experience was much closer to yours.

Guys

Appreciate the comments etc but I doubt very much that I am the King of Saunas. Well maybe a legend in my own mind. I approach my tours of duty usually with a positive frame of mind 'cos I am off the leash only a couple of times a year so I just approach things like one big excessive party.

I read a couple of months ago on an European thread somebody's mongering philosophy which ran like: something new, something old and something tried and tested. To me that about sums up the ideal approach to this game.

Important part is managing coming down off the high to return to the real world somewhat normal (and hopefully without any visible love bites tee hee hee). I'd be more moderate (logically I think so actually I'm not so sure) if it was more regular. 2 weeks down and one more to go.

Your indentured student of life and amateur gynocologist!

Wapec

[Superforce99]

Was chatting with my on-again/off-again sauna freebie and always a riot because she loves to tell me about the weird/sick/disgusting customers her colleagues and herself have had recently.

Apparently, the most recent was just a day ago where some "ugly, old white-skinned foreigner" came to the sauna (one in Xiangzhou that I've rarely mentioned) and after going through the lineups, chose my cute little friend. She was immediately turned off by his dirty-ass, long blond hair which seemed to not have been washed in sometime. His body was also half covered with tatoos, which made her uneasy. And then, the cherry on top, he busted out with an electronic translator, ha ha ha...which made her nervous, enough to call me on the phone to translate for her, which in turn probably freaked out the guy, ha ha...suddenly you hear a native English speaker on the end of a sauna gal's phone asking you what specific experience you seek.

In the end, he promised to give her a big tip for excellent service...but his huge, thick cock (apparently the thickness of my little friend's wrist) made her balk at sucking or fucking it. She could barely get him off with a HJ. And he still gave her a tip along with a "thank you, I appreciate" translation on the machine, ha ha....

Later on, my little friend found out that this guy was a regular customer and had gone with several of the other girls at the sauna. He chose her because he had never seen her before in the lineups and her colleagues were all cracking up when she went back to the waiting room for the girls. Just thought this whole experience for her was amusing (for me) and unfortunate for her...also made me glad that my cock isn't the thickness of a wrist, ha ha...

Anyway, Mr. Dirty Blond, are you on ISG at all?

J

[RasSpewtin]

Apparently, the most recent was just a day ago where some "ugly, old white-skinned foreigner" came to the sauna ...dirty-ass, long blond hair which seemed to not have been washed in sometime. His body was also half covered with tatoos...

Anyway, Mr. Dirty Blond, are you on ISG at all?
J

Johnny, I must confess that was me. The long blond hair was a wig, and the tatooes were temporary ones that I had applied for effect. Damn it, and the girls are all laughing behind my back? This is a real heart breaker for sure.

Hahahaha...

Raz

[Tanky]

After reading FR from Wapec, I decided to go and pay a visit to #891 in Ming Hao, but what to do, she's gone back to home town, I don't get to try.

Having made up my mind that i have to find someone new that night, i was introduced to 858.

Anyway, cut story short, this girl "squirts"!

Yes, its like those in Jap AV.

Would rate her as 7 on looks.

Guys,

Is there a different between Jin Yu and Jin Yue?

Tank