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Da Dicknotist
07-10-08, 20:04
Good to see SuperForce posting with a vengeance.
It's not like I was an economics major or anything (wait, yes I was) but because of lower demand, you should *lower* prices to increase the quantity and hence make the same amount of money. But these LHL girls are instead charging more that ever before. I'm getting quoted 1000 RMB which is absolutely ridiculous. I can name only a couple of KTV girls that charge that much in Shenzhen.
SuperForce says SZ is less expensive than ZH. Hell, I must be going to the wrong places in ZH then, because I can't fuck a hot one for 125 like I can in SZ. I've always found ZH more expensive, but the scene in SZ is really dead, so might make a weekend trip there to see an old flame.
Mongoose. (I think) I also know Fei Fei the Dongbei chick. IMO the hottest LHL girl there is, and one of the best street walkers I've seen anywhere in China. I have a Northern accent so she was friendly, so I had a couple of drinks with her at the umbrella bars. I don't recall the nasty breath, prolly cause she had a couple of drinks.
After a mediocre BBBJ I did her doggy style while she played on her phone, but after 5 (! ) minutes she kept on trying to hurry me. Fine fine, I nutted within a couple of minutes, was real polite.
The next day, about an hour before going to LHL I took a whole bottle of Santi dick pills, found her on the road and took her back to my hotel. Made sure to put her clothes and phone in the bathroom this time, and must've fucked her for 90 minutes straight. She was complaining about me taking too long and having her pussy hurt, but I couldn't really make out the words because I was blasting music from my laptop. As I'm sure you'll confirm, she deserved it.
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Superforce99
07-14-08, 08:27
It'll be a good day to see you visiting and posting more in ZH, Mr. Woshilaozi...I'm just an old man meandering along,
trying to help others not fall into some of the sandtraps in ZH. You're the Indiana Jones of pussy, baby...and from what I've read,
you qualify for Gigalo Indiana Jones status...go work at Tian De Rian Jie, that's where all the ducks hang out, waiting to get picked
by rich ladies old and young (Several sauna and LHL SWs I know hire "ducks" on a semi-regular basis...their reasoning was the same
as most guys, actually, "...I want to hang out with and fuck someone good looking, too!")
Well...I guess you're right about being able to find/fuck attractive chicks for 120-130 RMB in SZ...the best you could really do in
ZH is to find a really cute chick for about 130 in the alleyway BBSs behind LHL or in the outlying BBSs in Xiangzhou and Xin Xiangzhou.
The BBS chicks in ZH don't have the same slutty/hot look that's well known in SZ's Seibu, that's for sure...
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For those who care about bars in ZH, Red Bar is open again after a several month hiatus which was necessary after two people,
including a foreigner, was killed in some bar fight. I don't know the details nor do I really care too much, but anyway, Red is open
with a new design, better music, and hotter dancers.
Also, Yesterday Bar on Yinbing Road is getting to be quite a rip off now. I actually like that bar because it has a good mix of
OK music, good ratio of lots of hot girls/less lame guys,
and regular music/dance performances to break up the monotony of the usual China club experience of drink/dice/drink...so you can
have drink/dice/watch show/drink/dice/watch show...ha ha, it might sound strange but it actually makes a big difference. But they
seem to be adding a service charge to drinks now, so a single can of Red Bull almost came to 48-50 RMB...ridiculous.
Oh, and the ZH government is working on trying to make the ZH-Macau border 24 hours, but as of now, it's still 7am - 12 midnight.
SF99
SF99
Is that a tone of disillusionment or non-chalence one detects in your recent posts ? Keep up the spirits and maintain your Zen like guru status of all things Zhuhai ....... There are dark forces everywhere and the light of good will always triumph.
Somebody actually downed a full bottle of Santi pills without passing out because the blood went South! Bloody hell.
Wapec
Jayagopal50
07-16-08, 11:18
I am coming to Macau at midnight from US,[september sunday night]I was planning to stay one night @Grand Lisboa and was wondering if it is possible to go over to Zuhai next morning and monger for a non mandarin speaking Indian subcontinent descent person.I was planning on staying in a better hotel as recommended by the Board members.I have single Entry china Visa and planning to go on to Changping and then onward to Shangai and Xian.Any tips appreciated and Ace Gallant"s help is acknowledged.
Da Dicknotist
07-16-08, 19:07
SF,
I would counter that you've been meaning to come to SZ forever, and I just rented a 2 bedroom apartment right next to the Queen Spa that you're more than welcome to share in.
Now that Seibu's in house service is dead, I've been resorting mostly to exploring new joints. It's mildly bothersome that all the mamasans know me and don't stop pestering, and a lot of the bike dudes also pause to talk. As I'm part of the neighborhood, I feel obligated to return their pleasantries.
Even with Seibu dead though, I'd still say that SZ is at least equivalent to ZH in mongering, and many many times greater for freebies.
Tell me about Tian Di Ren Jian. I've actually never been inside there (or any club in ZH). Just never bothered. You go stag to shag? Do P4P girls approach you, or do I have to dust off my game? Can't imagine it being so hard, but would like a briefing on SOP.
I am in Venetian hotel at present been here a 3 days there are more and more p2p girls on casino floor there are lot 8. 9. Most don't like talking to westerners price Quote 1000 ST got them to 700 to much.
Heading over to ZH Saturday night what is the Red Bar like. Is it night club disco what price are the girls asking?
It'll be a good day to see you visiting and posting more in ZH, Mr. Woshilaozi. I'm just an old man meandering along, trying to help others not fall into some of the sandtraps in ZH. You're the Indiana Jones of pussy, baby. And from what I've read, you qualify for Gigalo Indiana Jones status. Go work at Tian De Rian Jie, that's where all the ducks hang out, waiting to get picked by rich ladies old and young (Several sauna and LHL SWs I know hire "ducks" on a semi-regular basis. Their reasoning was the same as most guys, actually, ". I want to hang out with and fuck someone good looking, too! ")
Well. I guess you're right about being able to find/fuck attractive chicks for 120-130 RMB in SZ. The best you could really do in ZH is to find a really cute chick for about 130 in the alleyway BBSs behind LHL or in the outlying BBSs in Xiangzhou and Xin Xiangzhou. The BBS chicks in ZH don't have the same slutty/hot look that's well known in SZ's Seibu, that's for sure.
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For those who care about bars in ZH, Red Bar is open again after a several month hiatus which was necessary after two people, including a foreigner, was killed in some bar fight. I don't know the details nor do I really care too much, but anyway, Red is open with a new design, better music, and hotter dancers.
Also, Yesterday Bar on Yinbing Road is getting to be quite a rip off now. I actually like that bar because it has a good mix of OK music, good ratio of lots of hot girls/less lame guys, and regular music/dance performances to break up the monotony of the usual China club experience of drink/dice/drink. So you can have drink/dice/watch show/drink/dice/watch show. Ha ha, it might sound strange but it actually makes a big difference. But they seem to be adding a service charge to drinks now, so a single can of Red Bull almost came to 48-50 RMB. Ridiculous.
Oh, and the ZH government is working on trying to make the ZH-Macau border 24 hours, but as of now, it's still 7am. 12 midnight.
SF99
Superforce99
07-17-08, 10:16
SF,
I would counter that you've been meaning to come to SZ forever, and I just rented a 2 bedroom apartment right next to the Queen Spa that you're more than welcome to share in.
Finally, we can have that 10-girl orgy I keep bothering you about...
Now that Seibu's in house service is dead, I've been resorting mostly to exploring new joints. It's mildly bothersome that all the mamasans know me and don't stop pestering, and a lot of the bike dudes also pause to talk. As I'm part of the neighborhood, I feel obligated to return their pleasantries.
Well, this good attitude and consistency will lead to something(s), I'm sure of it...and is true in business, girls, etc.
Even with Seibu dead though, I'd still say that SZ is at least equivalent to ZH in mongering, and many many times greater for freebies.
Actually, I consider SZ many times greater for mongering and agree about the freebies...
Tell me about Tian Di Ren Jian. I've actually never been inside there (or any club in ZH). Just never bothered. You go stag to shag? Do P4P girls approach you, or do I have to dust off my game? Can't imagine it being so hard, but would like a briefing on SOP.
TDRJ's dance floor is a fucking mosh pit more or less. At capacity, it's about 200-300 people packed like sardines (sardines
who are mostly high on drugs) and very little room to move. The music is that sucky trance shit prevalent in lower-tier
China clubs. The ducks for hire hang out in one corner, literally preening themselves. I tried to order one before as a joke,
but apparently, no manager took my order seriously. There aren't many freelance working girls at TDRJ because it's too fucking loud to
do business but there are plenty of guys who bring working girls with them to the disco. The house working girls are basically the KTV girls
who work upstairs. Mingling around the club, you should see plenty of familiar faces (sauna/BBS/LHL gals/LHL bar girls) who go to TDRJ,
and it's widely considered the most popular place for locals/less afluent people to go party because of the lower prices and
lack of snobby atmosphere. The KTV rooms are upstairs and the prices are actually higher than I expected for ZH: sit/fuck/all night
fees were 200/500/1000 if I remember correctly. You should be able to find a cute/hot gal, mostly because of the big selection of gals.
There are definately higher-end places with hotter girls though.
In general, p4p gals rarely approach me in ZH bars. I guess I'm not old/fat/desperate looking, hence I don't have the
"fish in a barrel" appeal for these gals. But with open, widespread availability of LHL gals and saunas in ZH, p4p in bars
seems less widespread than other major cities. More likely than not, if a gal approaches you in a ZH bar, she is just looking
for a fuck. But then if you are an old, fat, desperate fish, then toss that idea out the window...
Red Bar, 88 Bar, and Yesterday Bar all have good atmospheres, decent music (depends on the day of the week and time of night),
and young, hot girls in my opinion, and are definately places to get your game in gear...
SF
Da Dicknotist
07-17-08, 18:46
Doesn't really sound like the place to go. Have been to most of the other places you mentioned though, and it's kind of eh. The thrill of the chase is great and all, but now that I'm busting my ass with work I'd rather go get a massage/go to a sauna and get laid. Next time, will try though. Max 20 minutes a girl, and just be like, hey, wanna fuck?
The whole duck thing is interesting. I wonder if I can get a hot girl to pay for me - shouldn't be that hard, right? Although, I'm wondering if the managers/mamasans will kick my ass if I don't register in the P4P book first.
Just got back from a 4 day stay in Zhuhai. Due to my visa limitations I have to exit China every 30 days so this time round I decided on Zhuhai as opposed to Shenzhen. Good choice. Prior to my trip I had studied this forum and it proved very useful. I'd like to thank guys like Fast Eddie, Superforce, SE Asia Joe and all the others for all the great info they've put on here.
Based on my research I had broken my list of sauna's down to DMY, Chang An (any or all of them) and the black rope place.
DMY was 1st on my list. On the way, the taxi driver suggested another sauna – repeatedly. This happened on most of my taxi journeys, leaving me to suspect some kick back action with many of the drivers. DMY was much as I had imagined. After the business of undressing and showering, I was led to my room. I thought the rooms were very good considering the price, although the mirrored parts were too high – no chance of seeing yourself in action. I was shown 3 line ups of girls, each line up better than the last. I opted for a Hunan chick, claimed to be 21, 7 in looks and body. The girl showed me the red "service card", detailing all the various services on offer. Unfortunately I cannot read Chinese, so I just looked at it and shrugged. She started with the cat bath thing – which was ok, then surprisingly she asked me to finger her. She seemed to enjoy it but after 10 minutes of this I told her to continue with her duties. Her BBJ was good, I’ve had better but I enjoyed her technique. She did the spinning thing where she rotated around me with my cock in her mouth – quaint. Although there was some arse cheek licking and kissing, I was surprised there was no AR whatsoever from her. On with the action. Started with her on top, after which we switched a few times, finishing with doggie. Cleaned up and chatted for a while. My Mandarin is crap (I’m BBC and can only speak Cantonese), so it was a struggle. Even if I could remember her name or number I wouldn’t repeat with this girl as she had a slightly lazy attitude. All in all, DMY is well worth the 210 RMB and I can see it as being a regular joint for me.
Went to the LHL umbrella bars and it started raining heavily. I ducked into the first bar and had a few JD’s while waiting for the rain to stop. Despite the rain I noticed quite a few SW’s hanging around with umbrellas. I have to say that many of them are lookers and I was kind of tempted when approached. Christ, these girls are aggressive! I did find the handing out mobile numbers thing a nice marketing thing on their part. From experience and reading a few reports on here – I decided not to do business with any of them.
It was getting late and I had spent too much time downing JD’s so I decided to hit the black rope place. I had lost my note book with all my info on sauna’s and such so I had to resort to asking the taxi driver. Maybe it was my lack of language skills but he said he’d never heard of it and suggested another place. The sauna we arrived at seemed a bit more polished than the ones I had seen. A doorman opened the taxi door and ushered me in. I was informed the rate was 458 RMB – so I asked to see a room. Yes the room looked nice but I wasn’t there for the décor so I asked about the girls. The manager replied that I’d only know after trying – what the fuck kind of answer was that? I laughed and strolled back out into the lobby where I noticed the taxi driver talking to the doorman – kickback action for sure. Walked onto the main street and hailed another cab who took me to another place. I was extremely tired by now and just wanted a decent fuck and then sleep – employing the "sleep at the sauna after midnight" advice given in this forum. In hindsight I should’ve just went back to the LHL area but I just opted for where the driver took me. I should apologize as I have no idea what the sauna was called or where it was – all I know is that it was at least 10 mins away from LHL. 2 line ups – that were mediocre to say the least. The manager told me it was all that was on offer considering the time – I was too tired to be bothered and opted for an ok looking chick from Sichuan. Face I’d say was a 6 at most, nice firm body but lacking in the chest area. She washed me down on the shower table thing, it sort of woke me up a bit although it seemed a bit mechanical. Again, it was very step by step routine; not as many acts as DMY but near enough. She did wrap my feet in cling film and start lick and sucking – not into that at all. Her BJ was too not too smooth and somewhat rough so I decided to rush the whole thing through and get some sleep. Lack of sleep and too much JD had caught up on me and the fuck seemed to go on for ages. I don’t think she was used to such an extended shag session as I noticed her white knuckles gripping the pillow. As per my usual routine, we finished in doggie with her collapsing in a heap. Cleaned up and fell asleep almost straight away.
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Dude
Good post! Important to share. Recognise the enthusiasm and energy that went into writing it up.
Yeah! I remember the intro to the action and getting down and dirty when feeling my way around ZH. Oh the mammaries roll back .... rock on!
Wapec
SF99 & Woshilaozi
10 gal orgy in China ? Waste of cash, time and Ill wager technique ! Understand the great swell it bring in fantasy land but in China ? Nah ! Even lesbian action is very hit and miss in my experience. Japan if you want multiple instances of Asian gash at the same time.
If you guys are into that then I'd really recommend Amsterdam in the suburbs, Antwerp (again the burbs), Geneva (more common than you'd think) or a Southern German country erotik club hausse. Personally, of the four Southern Germany was the best 'cos it was the most natural with a much higher percent of non p4p gals. In Geneva met folks at a club and went back to their house a couple times that week. The wife had gf's she offered to invite over and did !!! Weird and something I could do regularly for only short periods postversion (doesn't qualify as preversion or perversion only postversion).
Expensive though when you add in the travel, hotel & club fees but for an authentic experience you'll look back on when old and frail and the ole codger doesn't march to attention any longer - very well worth it. Like many things in life its all about planning & attention to detail.
Keep rocking and knocking.
Wapec
Finally, we can have that 10-girl orgy I keep bothering you about...
Well, this good attitude and consistency will lead to something(s), I'm sure of it...and is true in business, girls, etc.
Actually, I consider SZ many times greater for mongering and agree about the freebies...
TDRJ's dance floor is a fucking mosh pit more or less. At capacity, it's about 200-300 people packed like sardines (sardines
who are mostly high on drugs) and very little room to move. The music is that sucky trance shit prevalent in lower-tier
China clubs. The ducks for hire hang out in one corner, literally preening themselves. I tried to order one before as a joke,
but apparently, no manager took my order seriously. There aren't many freelance working girls at TDRJ because it's too fucking loud to
do business but there are plenty of guys who bring working girls with them to the disco. The house working girls are basically the KTV girls
who work upstairs. Mingling around the club, you should see plenty of familiar faces (sauna/BBS/LHL gals/LHL bar girls) who go to TDRJ,
and it's widely considered the most popular place for locals/less afluent people to go party because of the lower prices and
lack of snobby atmosphere. The KTV rooms are upstairs and the prices are actually higher than I expected for ZH: sit/fuck/all night
fees were 200/500/1000 if I remember correctly. You should be able to find a cute/hot gal, mostly because of the big selection of gals.
There are definately higher-end places with hotter girls though.
In general, p4p gals rarely approach me in ZH bars. I guess I'm not old/fat/desperate looking, hence I don't have the
"fish in a barrel" appeal for these gals. But with open, widespread availability of LHL gals and saunas in ZH, p4p in bars
seems less widespread than other major cities. More likely than not, if a gal approaches you in a ZH bar, she is just looking
for a fuck. But then if you are an old, fat, desperate fish, then toss that idea out the window...
Red Bar, 88 Bar, and Yesterday Bar all have good atmospheres, decent music (depends on the day of the week and time of night),
and young, hot girls in my opinion, and are definately places to get your game in gear...
SF
Thanks fella, always good to get a compliment from a senior member.
B888
Dude
Good post! Important to share. Recognise the enthusiasm and energy that went into writing it up.
Yeah! I remember the intro to the action and getting down and dirty when feeling my way around ZH. Oh the mammaries roll back .... rock on!
Wapec
Second day. I spent most of the afternoon at the LHL bars drinking coffee and chatting to the bar girls. Much to my surprise there were a few SW’s strolling around, a couple of them approached me – I took their numbers just to get rid of them. I recognized a few from the night before – business must’ve been slow I guess. Evening comes and I’m looking for Old Chang An sauna. Without my notes I was at a loss so I eventually went into the Jin Yu Hotel.
Exiting onto the sauna’s floor and I’m greeted by a Cantonese speaking manageress (at fucking last). Tells me the going rate, 300rmb and I’m led to a room. After the previous nights session with the not so good looking girl, I’m gunning for a looker. Second line up and I see one that fits the bill. She was from Chongqing, easily an 8, body 7 and she informed me she was 23. This girl was very lively and talkative, she could speak a modicum of Cantonese so that helped. Oral technique was spot on; slow with lots of tongue movement. Again no AR and she was a bit too forceful with that mouth vacuum thing they do across your body. For the main course she mounted me first, switched to mish and I guess I must’ve got hypnotized by her facial expressions as I shot my load before I could flip her over. She asks me if I want to go again or rest a while, I light up a Marlboro and tell her I’ll have a cig first. In hindsight I should have at least asked her if there was any extra charge as we didn’t get to do a second shot. (Anyone with any insight on this? ) She did however offer me a 2 girl session which she said was lots of fun. Price was apparently 500RMB – I can’t recall if she offered this pre or post fuck. I declined as I wanted to conserve my energy for another sauna. Definite for next time though, be it here or at Old Chang An where I was also offered it. Kind of chilled out for the rest of the session, bit of groping, stroking and chatting. Had a coffee in the sitting area, was given a discount voucher and then headed out.
Strolled around Gombei and the surrounding areas and I must say that I quite liked it. More chilled out than Shenzhen I’d say and a hell of lot cheaper than Macau. Back to LHL and some more JD’s. More rain and the same amount of SW’s strutting around. There was the odd LE patrol every 30 minutes but if you were hunting for SW’s the words "kid" and "candy store" spring to mind. Got friendly with one bar, stayed there a while as there was a stunner there. Met a bloke from Taiwan, after some subtle hints I gathered that he was into calling the girls to his hotel room and knew squat about saunas. Ah well, made some shitty excuse and ditched the Taiwanese bloke and strolled to the front of the Old Chang An Hotel. Bought a drink from the mini store near the hotel entrance and noticed they sold all manner of sexual enhancement drugs – never tried, don’t know jack about them so I stuck to my bottle of Vanilla coke. There was a gang of about 5-7 girls standing on the corner and they noticed me, one by one they took it in turns to approach me. Even with my earphones in, they walked right front of me, gave me their sales pitch, shoved their numbers into my hand and walked off. Based on looks I would’ve fucked any of them and probably bought some pills to assist me, but I resisted and decided to head back to Jin Yu with the intention of staying overnight.
Unfortunately, Jin Yu was hammered. The manager apologized and said that I’d have to wait for a room. Back outside, I’m approached 3 times by girls before I’m back at the umbrella bar area. I notice Mr. Taiwan is still at my fav bar so I sneak towards another bar. It was then I noticed a girl standing in a doorway behind a wooden podium thing – this must be Old Chang An sauna! Bit too close to the bars for my liking, but screw it – I went in regardless. The manager tells me its 300RMB and I head upstairs to my room. I don’t know if it’s the usual practice here but he brings what he claims is every girl available. There were about a dozen and to be honest I was overwhelmed. I opt for cute looking one from Hunan; a cute 7 in looks and high 6 for body. Shy at first but seemed to ease into things as we progressed. As mentioned earlier, I was offered a second girl here – price was the same as Jin Yu I think. Again I decided to leave that till my next trip. In terms of overall eagerness, she was the best that I’d had so far. She spent an eternity blowing me with all manner of stuff – including a fizzy drink. Did the cat bath action very slowly and methodically, no AR yet again although she got close. Call me whatever you like but I’m partial to some AR – quite disappointed that I didn’t get any in any of my sauna visits in ZH. She then got the red rope stuff set up and started with her routine. First time I’ve had that done and I gotta say I quite liked it. The main course was great, nice and slow and with her making all the right noises. Went into doggie for the final lap and finished with a big grin on my face. Showered again after some chit chat and fell asleep feeling good about my sessions that day.
Part 3 on its way
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Exited Old Chang An the next day – I seriously wish they had a more discreet entrance! Again there were plenty SW’s around, occasionally sitting next to you at the bars and offering themselves. I didn’t do much in the way of mongering during the day, spent most of the time getting wasted at the bars.
Later on in the evening, I bumped into the Taiwanese fella again at the same bar. He mentioned that there were better bars along bar street with "dancing girls". Intrigued, I decided to join him. I think we hit about 4 bars, all the same kind of thing. A couple had girls dancing on the stage but nothing to make me stay. Plenty of fine looking chicks though with many being freelancers working the scene. Not my sort of thing to be honest and considering my company, I had no chance catching a freebie.
Back to the LHL area, a few more drinks and off I went back to Jin Yu. Being a Monday, it wasn’t as busy as the night before. Unfortunately my coupon wasn’t valid after midnight so I had to pay the whole 300RMB. Not a big deal as I was planning on staying the night; a shag and nights stay for 300RMB who’s arguing? Manager informed me there wasn’t much on offer considering the time but he did manage to show me 2 line ups of decent fair. I opted for a Sichuan girl from the 2nd line up. Not as cute as the girl from my last visit, I’d say a mid 6 for face and same for body. Performance was routine, slightly mechanical maybe. Can’t recall much from this session, so it must not have been too great but nothing that warranted a negative report.
Last day: Walked around a bit more on my last day. I can walk for miles and did so for a couple of hours. One thing I must say about this place, you are never that far from a hotel/sauna. There’s plenty more to sample for a sauna junkie like me, damn it I might even relocate for a while LOL.
I decided on DMY again as a second session is always good to get a decent overview of a place. I can’t recall it happening last time but they offered me a choice of massage or sauna which a corresponding yellow or blue tag to go with your choice. Anyone care to enlighten me on the choice options? Anyway, had a shower dried off and went to the sitting area in the PJ’s they give you. A few guys were sitting around, some fully clothed, some in PJ’s and a couple having their feet massaged. After 5 mins I’m led downstairs. DMY seemed busy that night, plenty of coming and going and lots of girls passing me in the hallway. Out of curiosity I ask to look at a VIP room which was essentially a slightly larger room with a shower. I had already showered so stuck with the regular room. Down to business and I choose a moody looking girl from my second line up. She was quite cute to be fair, on par with my first session at Chang An. No idea where she was from as communication was a struggle with her. She did a lot more in terms of acts compared to my first visit here, albeit in a robotic manner. At one point she asked me go on all fours so she could access my rear, she then blew me and licked my balls a bit. She wiped my backside with some wipes then stuck what I think were cotton buds up there! I got a decent fuck out of her though, she was quite tight and I enjoyed doing her in all the positions. After clean up, we sort of tried to chat but it was hard going. Funny thing is, the girl fell asleep at one point! I let her be and caught a few minutes myself. I had originally thought of an overnight here but decided to leave as it seemed to busy.
After a quick bite to eat from the BBQ stand on LHL and a drink or two, I wandered off to another sauna. This one was near the coach station near the Gombei border; if you’re standing with the station on your left the sauna is on your immediate right. The girl behind the podium ushered me to the lift and up I went. From the décor I could tell the place had been there a while, clean enough though. Price was 280RMB. Line up wasn’t great with only 6 or so girls available all of which were average at best. I chose a tall looking one who was decent looking, 6 at the most with a slender body. Turns out she was from Yangjiang and could speak fluent Cantonese – which made for things somewhat. Performance wise she was ok; bit too much teeth action during the BJ but other than that she was ok. Very talkative this chick, telling me how many of the working girls don’t send money home like they are supposed to and instead spend it on drugs or to keep a boyfriend. Don’t know if there is any truth to this but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were girls who fucked strangers all day just to keep their lazy ass, spikey highlighted haired boyfriends happy. Anyway. After the average shag and the bit of banter, we cleaned up and off she went. Conclusion.
Yes I will be returning to Zhuhai, next time I want to definitely try one or two other places such as the black rope joint. Any suggestions from the veterans here on where’s decent at the moment would be welcome. Doubt I will try a SW but it’s nice to know they are there if need be and its good eye candy for when you’re having a beer on LHL.
DMY: Hit and miss I’d say but a bargain nonetheless.
Jin Yu: Again its down how lucky you are with your choice of girl but worth a visit. Old Chang An: Definitely return here – potentially for the 2 girl action.
Happy Mongering All
Banana888
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Took a mid-week break that ended up w0ith me swinging thru ZH over the weekend before heading on back to work.
Went to Old Chang An sauna Saturday night and chose two gals scheduled one after the other. First gal was #23 medium build but very friendly and easy to settle down with. Very gfe with a long gentle succulent bbbj th0at felt like it went on forever. She was a gobbler and took it all in and worked the baopi with her throat muscles. Damn I almost came .....
Next got around to a few standard positions. Got into some doggie and noticed something twinging. Got my attention until i figured her pussy muscles were squeezing on my dick. So I checked by asking her and hey presto she was so endowed. I quickly flipped her over and we did the scissors crab position ie: I dipped my wick in and out and she did her thing. Its a scream to have a gal grip onto your dick and work it ......... Must have been 40 minutes of playing around and every minute was full of sheer fun and pleasure. I can only describe it as a slow and easy pleasure to be savoured. But when I switched gear and wanted to make some serious noise banging our bones together she was a true professional. She made all the right noises and moved up and down gear in perfect synconisation. A little pocket rocket. I first came across a chick with this skill in Xiamen. Santa if you're reading its not as dead as you think !
Took a half hour rest and ordered #128 who was a taller fuller bodied wine for the tasting. Went by the name of Gao Dan to whom I introduced my gao wan. Nice gal and we discussed the Chang An menu at length.
Note 1 - 4 is cat licking, 5 - 7 prick teasing, 8 & 9 anal teasing (yes AR is available), 10 - 14 various bbbj action, 15 - 16 using a dildo on her, 17 is the red ropes (this gal didn't want to do that 'cos she was tall and singing off the ceiling is a bit akward), there is 18 - 22 but to be honest I just wanted to jump her by this time and we threw the menu out the window. She was not as responsive as #23 but good in her own way. She definitely buttered my biscut. Job done and time to negotiate the sleep over since I didn't have a hotel - two fucks and an overnight bed.
Woke up around 6 am when #23 dropped in to let me know she was off duty. I had a quick shower to wake up while she waited for me to dress. I had offered her to go for breakfast when she was off duty. Nothing major planned this time. Objective was to get her to relax, open up and talk about herself and soften her up for some off site duty when I am next in Town. Sweet girl outside her office ! Breakfast was as tasty as she was too .....
Hung around from 10 am and fell asleep on a bench until about 2pm as I was dog tired. Wandered around and did some shopping and had a bite to eat. Took it easy until 4 pm before swinging by the Jin Yu to say "hi" some of of my more regular friends. The one I really wanted to shake hands with was busy so I asked a Manager for a couple of line ups. He brought in a few and I chose a new gal #52, tall, long hair and nice eyes and proporionately big round titties. Made my order.
Things went down hill from there when we were alone. She didn't want to do bbbj, no rub down or boudi (tit massage) and she kept squuezing my crotch with her nails. I was not impressed on top of being tired from an early morning. I got dressed - she thought I was leaving - I wasn't. Went and asked for my favourite Manager who wasn't in but I rang her number at the front desk. She remembered me as she always does. Complained about the poor service and said #52 needed to be trained like a new gal how to keep a man happy. Asked for a tag team with #52 and my special friend who was now available. Also, got the tag team at a discount because #52 was going to be trained to be a professional. I poped a pill .....
And boys did she get a training session. One time to illustrate and one time to practice. Practice and practice she did. Kissing, licking, sucking, ball bouncing in her mouth, tit fucking, a little girl on girl (a special gift from my friend who is a bit dom), some KY and I fingered her until #52 started to squirm (must have been 25 minutes or so) and then onto sex switching between each gal. Deposit, withdraw, & accrued interest to boot. It was nasty but consensual and she brought it on herself trying to pull a fast one at the place where I have some steadies.
The stage was set for her introduction to the red ropes. 30 minutes later and 5 positions later on the ropes I withdrew, pulled off the condom and spunked between her legs, up and over her stomach, and then wiped myself clean on her bush. Finished up my massaging my load on her breasts. Student had graduated.
We all washed up. Sat #52 down and asked her if she knew why the Manager set the session up this way. She recognised that she was originally outta line, apologied and it wouldn't happen again. I tipped her a small amount, confirmed no hard feelings, and did provide the Manager with a good report in her presence.
Moral of the story is no need to be nasty or agressive. When you are a regular or known customer you just lodge a complaint and talk it through. The loss of revenue and repeat business is enough to ensure a hearing and effort at restitution. Normally, I am an easy going guy but I sure don't believe that anybody has the right to get something for nothing. I know these gals come from varied backgrounds but they do have choices and should not put themselves out as goods not fit for purpose.
I will go back and try #52 again and if she provides better service then treat her like the lady always looked to be.
Hi all,
I have a good friend going to Zhu Hai but he has never been there before so need some ideas as I have never been there either. I searched the thread and found some recommendations but have some questions.
Chang An Good World Hotel was one of the recommended hotels but since he is CBC and has very very basic mandarin skills I was trying to help him find a hotel that had a decent sauna and KTV. Is there one out there that stands out? He is a little flexible on price but would like something in line with Miraton/HH in CP.
Also, which area of ZH is best suited to a newbie/non-native speaker? Does speaking some cantonese help? Any suggestions would be much appreciated and reviews will be posted afterwards of course.
Cheers
Wapec,
Very informative report – I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for answering some of my questions in your report too.
Now I need to research pills and start getting friendly with the managers.
Cheers,
Banana888
Try the GDE Hotel opposite New Chang An and beside Jin Yu. Unable to PM you more details. Perhaps, you can subscribe if you want more eg: phone numbers of the hotel.
Otherwise, happy hunting.
Hi all,
I have a good friend going to Zhu Hai but he has never been there before so need some ideas as I have never been there either. I searched the thread and found some recommendations but have some questions.
Chang An Good World Hotel was one of the recommended hotels but since he is CBC and has very very basic mandarin skills I was trying to help him find a hotel that had a decent sauna and KTV. Is there one out there that stands out? He is a little flexible on price but would like something in line with Miraton/HH in CP.
Also, which area of ZH is best suited to a newbie/non-native speaker? Does speaking some cantonese help? Any suggestions would be much appreciated and reviews will be posted afterwards of course.
Cheers
motivated myself for another wicked weekend in zhuhai. funny how knowing you're gonna be working like a monkey for peanuts makes one make the most of precious time. arrived zhuhai friday night at 10:30pm with the target of nailing six gals over the weekend and head straight to lhl.
one
dropped off at the corner of lhl by the bar street. not interested in looking around. straight into old chang an sauna. arriving on the first floor announce that i am going straight to the second floor and to bring me three line ups. waiters had to rush to keep up with me.
waiter looked sleepy and i said that i was going through the first door that was open. wham bang walked into an empty room, put my stuff down, slumped into the seat, put my feet and shouted for a 7 up and xiaojie, xiaojie, xiaojie ....... think i overwhelmed them and not without reason – the clock was ticking and the night was young.
choose a cute looker from the second line up. only choose her after seeing the third line up though just to be sure. also, prospecting for future potentials..no. 118 cute short compact gal from henan.
nice shower with soapy action. cleaned off didi with a water filled bbbj. she allowed me to clean her parts including a good fingering. todger was at attention as i dried him off. moved to the bed. a little massage, talking, touching, cat bathing, stretching of arms and legs. houston looking good!
gentle kissing leading to some more serious petting. she was quite into this and we didn't rush things along. we kissed everywhere and i mean everywhere. she was not only hard core but also multi core ie: neck and wank me at the same time. eventually i got around to mounting her about an hour into the session. fuck the clock !
she was an absolute star. very gfe and a real professional. tried every position slowly and vigorously. she even tried to teach me a new one. well i've seen it and tried before. never really worked for me. didn't this time but she didn't give up for want of trying. this session was becoming one where not only did i want to satisfy myself but also her. it was like fucking an old girlfriend that you'd broken up with and just back together with for one night before being friends again. warm, familiar and natural where you knew each other's rhythm. anyway, the new position didn't work but it was fun trying. another example of her willingness and natural ability was screwing her legs crossed on her side and she just squeezed herself closed as i thrust down and wrapped her legs tighter around mine on the release. quality service with attention to detail. when you find it only a fool would ignore.
excellent session from a small bodied, baby faced but very willing athletic 20 year old. well up there in my top ten. yes i got her phone number and know her days off :)
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as #118 was leaving she rang through the laoban to say the session was over. i asked for the phone and then asked for them to send up #23 in 20 minutes.
up she came and after a little bit of coaxing so did i. see my last post for the special charms that #23 has and i wanted her to bring her skills to this week's party. she did and i finished up a happy man again :)
three
left the old chang an around 1:30am slightly behind plan but in need of pacing myself. decided on gaining some recovery time. so headed to the least busy bar 'cos i wanted to sit and be mellow while watching the world go by. anyway, got chatting with the bar girls and found out that lhl has been getting quieter and quieter. apparently, it is down to two factors – more people going to beijing for the olympics and more le surveillance. still the sw's seemed to me to be more forward than usual and more open selling their wares. but even the sw's and mama's i know said the same as they came over for a chat. i made it clear i was resting after a long day but was happy for them to sit and catch up. the sw scene never really did it for me but i keep good relations. you never want to burn your bridges and not have diversification opportunities.
about 2:15am i wander into jin yu thinking of a quickie before sleeping over. the favourite manager is on duty tonight and we sit in the internet area on a couch catching up on events and news. anyway, i confirmed i wanted to sleep in and asked who was still on. got an update and decided that i'd save us all some heartache and asked to go see the gals in their waiting room.
normally piaoke's aren't allowed into the waiting room. for one its not done up and is spartan and for another gals need to have their own space in such a charged environment. anyway, i knew more than one gal on that night so i sauntered down and in to see them. opened the door to howls and shrieks. until some of my gals recognized me and pulled me in closing the door behind me. had a good time laughing and giggling with them. had fun listening to them chatter about punters coming in the entrance – there are cameras for them to watch. they have vivid imaginations and some get into a tizzy trying to out the other with mad imaginations.
saw a newish gal #16 who is twenty years old that caught my eye and went over to her for a closer look. what caught my attention was that she was wearing glasses and looked like the studentish nerdy type. you know the bookish gal in school that nobody goes near, thinks is inexperienced but is silently repressed. anyway, i am keen to swing with her. as we go to a room, i ask one of the gals that i've done some offsite activity with to drop by if she wants when i am finished.
#16 has a great sense of humour and sense of fun..really a perfect counterpoint to the other two i did earlier and much less a hardened pro experience. we played and joked around. she confirmed that i wasn't the only one with the bookish student assessment but she was cheeky enough to say that what she learned wasn't in any books that she'd read. made me laugh out loud. we had a good session, she was very pleasing and acomodating. very good at asking questions and taking direction in an unhurried way. willing and able with just the right amount of personality and naughtiness to round out a nice evening. i was tired and fading but a session on the red ropes led to a vigorous ending and a squeezed out the last drop for tonight. afterwards she confessed that i was her first foreigner and i joked that i tried to be gentle 'cos i knew she was a virgin. she smiled and went all proud like fucking a westerner was an achievement. what the hell i fuck chinese chicks all the time maybe i'd puff up the plumage if i fucked a western chick now too ?
cleaned up, she brought in the duvet and clean towels, kissed me goodnight and left as my offsite gal came in. manager popped by check all was ok and i asked if it was ok new gal to stay with me no action. since she finished at 3am and stayed back to see me by choice there was no issue but still polite to ask (and more importantly to be clear i am not paying for this).
note: #16 is not body perfect and does have a scar on her left buttock. imho her personaility and gsoh more than make up for this. i've fucked model types that were no better than wooden logs and would rate this gal way above those for a good time experience with a couple of laughs in between.
four
fell asleep in each others arms and woke up about 7am.half asleep my sleeping partner says why don't we go back to her place since her room mate starts at 8-9am for the morning to early afternoon shift. some gals prefer to take the less busy shifts because with less gals around if they are half decent looking they can cull more piaoke's per visit so make the same money for less effort and time. hey don't fool yourself into thinking these gals are doing it for a higher reason – its a business. anyway, we get dressed and i go to settle up on the bill for #16 and the room.
we arrive at her place. go in settle down, have a cup of tea while she makes up the bed for two, i make her a tea too. she is pleased. coo's and purrs says she missed me for a long while but kept my sms's. yeah and how many others ....... she feigns annoyance and proclaims that for this moment she loves me only. we make out in the kitchen / dining room before moving into the bedroom. damn i am surprised that i am able to do anything at this stage. after a good while trying with no ending we cuddle up and sleep again. next thing i remember i waking at 2pm with her sucking my dick and tugging my balls. well this ends up with the inevitable ending but by now i am more recharged and can actually unload into her.
we hang out for the afternoon, go to eat, i go shopping with her and buy her something nice to wear she is happy. i am pleased. we are sleeping fuck buddies pretending to be friends. its pleasant and civilised. i think to myself if only all sexual encounters were like this then the world wouldn't have any major problems 'cos we'd all be too busy fucking to our hearts content. we go back to her place, i chill out while she does chores and puts the shopping away. her room mate comes back after her shift and my gals goes to work to clock in.
this gals identity is deliberately concealed and activities kept ambiguous to protect her from you stealing mongering pre-verts out there.
five
i wander back to lhl and find a place to have a bite to eat. nicely located joint on the second floor overlooking the main drag. great vantage point to eat while looking at the sw action below. patterns and strategies emerge when you watch long enough. fascinating to watch and i marvel at the thought that i am watching this networked chain of events unfold as i am eating my dinner. i truly do enjoy china and all the variety of experiences that it provides. the wild wild east is an entertaining monument onto itself. i finish eating, order an outrageously over priced coffee and kick back to watch the wildlife.
an hour or so later i pay my bill and wander out into the fresh pollution..thought that i'd check out the dvds and software selections..get waylaid by tsai hong a sw who i have been intimate terms with. we get chatting, one thing leads to another, and instead of being waylaid i am thinking of being laid again. we talk about it and i say i am interested but i am tired and have done a few already this trip and was going to do a little shopping. she offers to come shopping and says no pressure. she is tired and wants a break anyway. so off we go. nothing special in the shops well nothing that i haven't before but its a nice break and tsai hong is nice company of the clock. i buy her two dvd's – not my scene its those long meandering chinese epics that tell a story in six hours that i could recite in five minutes. still twleve kuai to put a smile on her face and make her feel happy.
wander back and she drops off the discs with her mommie. i ask her to go to a st hotel and she immediately switches back to her pro persona. remind her that its me and she laughs and says its the training. we off together, get a room and play around. tsai hong is not an astounding looker but if you just want to play with a big pair of titties and weigh the pros and cons of big tits in your hands then they don't come much better. hers are just fantastic to play with .....
i just want to play with her and tell her as much. she is cool and says its more fun that way to not have to always perform. i finger her and she starts pulling me, i caress her left breast she sucks my right nipple it goes on. i feel her nipple getting harder over time and she wets up and i am releasing juicy fluids slowly too. she works her way down and speeds up while i stand on the bed. she feels me shudder and puts my cock in her mouth and gobbles to completion. we lay down and i play with her clit. we chat before showering and getting dressed. settle the bill at 200 plus a tip. relaxed and easy it is but she has to put food on the table and no trying to sneak a freebie.
we go downstairs and pay for the room. she starts talking in broken english which is kinda freaky 'cos i remember her only speaking chinese. i complement her and notice that its pretty good in a broken english kinda way. she laughs saying she prefers chinese but learned english for business. well there you have – the internationalisation of the zhuhai sex scene by foreigners or zh the next bkk soapie. i do so hope not. it would be shame to loose some of the charm of the place.
see previous post for a pic of tsai hong.
six (bingo)
back on lhl we peck kiss each other goodbye and go our separate ways. i decide to grab some beef and pork skewers from a shop on the main bar street area. drop some off with the bar girl stand i hung out at last night. decided to hop on a bus and go out to jusco and the mai hao international. always a fun experience taking a local bus in china. got out near jusco and walked down to the waterfront to the mai hao hotel. went in a decided to have dinner and laze away the sunset and early evening. nice enough meal and i was in no rush to do anything.
about 8 – 8:30pm i take the lift up to the spa floor (the usual lucky number 3) and am asked whether i want a normal or deluxe room. having done both and considering i am looking to sleep over again i plump for the deluxe. being hurriedly ushered into a room puts me off and i say that i want to relax, watch tv and get a foot massage first. so i walk back out and find a seat looking out the window and over the sea on the other side of the road. settle in with my drink, order my footie and set up my personal tv. this is the end result of thousands of years of civilisation and china is one of the world's great civilisations. doze off and wake up around 11-11:30pm.
ready for action. i indicate that its time for the games to begin and i am not talking about the olympics. off we go down the yellow brick road and into a room. i take a look around, not happy i walk out just as quickly. turning arund to the laoban i say that i want a front facing room with a window overlooking the bay. he says there is no such room. i say follow me and off i go and prove him wrong. i look at him and confess that i've been here before and show him my member card (which they no longer give out). he is smart enough to cut his losses. i drop my stuff, sit ion the side of the bed and ask him to bring in some gals. a couple of minutes later some other creep brings me one gal saying she offers good service. i have no idea but i ain't born yesterday and want to choose one from the many not one from the one. i scold him too and say don;t come back with less than twelve gals or i am leaving and complaining.
real quick the room fills up and i am a happy camper welcoming the gals in and walking the line up shaking their hands. trying to chat and decide which ones are keen. make a few assessments and dismiss the rest before investing some time in remaining line up. i ask a few questions, ask preferences, and make some small jokes (i don't think they're funny but they usually get a chuckle from the chinese). anyway, i hone in on one but haven't finished getting jollies just yet. yes i do get off as much as the next guy on a cheap thrill. so i walk the line cupping breasts, squeezing and feeling up a pussy or two before i declare my decision which is the one gal i didn't feel up. tee hee hee and there is some logic to that she now thinks that i treat her special in front of the others so she has some face. even in a sauna ***** house the relativities matter in china. he is from dongbei, is 28 years old and #162. the thing about the mai hao is that it has an extensive menu of forty or so activities and each gal is trained to work meticulously through the menu. this includes, black straps, red ropes, dildo's, and lighting a flame on your foreskin. oh and i haven't mentioned five or more styles of bjs. it can be quite acrobatic and overwhelming, well it was for me the first couple of times. in one instance i got concerned and took control of the situation – if the gal is pro i am happy enough to lay back and enjoy myself being active isn't going to be fun than being passive.
#162 was real nice and had the right mix of experience and homeliness to be the girl next door that moonlighted as a back seat car ****. good shower. she cleans my ass and is a good sign that ar is on this menu. allows me to clean her snatch inside and out smiling at me as i manouver my fingers. i know i am in for a good session and she doesn't disappoint. bbbj while showering for about 10 minutes. dry off and slip back on to the bed. pours oil over me and gives a half decent massage; we chat away and i find out that hse has been in zh for 6 years done a variety of jobs and zh is basically better than what is available back home. she is content and such is her simple uncomplicated life. pleasant company.
she takes some cushions puts them on the bed and motions me to kneel over them. she continues with the massage on my back works her way to my ass crack. next thing she is cleaning my hole before i know she has slipped in under me blowing me while playing marbles with my sack before moving back to some serious ar. she spreads my cheeks and goes in full frontal licking all the way from my sack to the top of my crack. geronimo!!! didi is back on song and singing the whole hymn book in her praises.
she does a handstand and motions me to fuck her with a dildo.i dutifully do so and ask if she likes it. she is lukewarm and so i ask her why are we bothering? let's keep to the things she is into and does in her normal life. then i dive into her bush and start eating her out. musty muff and i think of the john denver song “country roads”. ironic since cowboy style is on the menu along with cowgirl positions too. yea haa !!!! we have a good rapport by now and talk and chat through the bumping and grinding. time passes easily by for us both.
spanking, wanking, finger licking good, straps, ropes, swinging and multiple bed sex positions later i popped her. it was tough going and we stopped three time for me to get my breadth back and for her to harden me up to continue. it ended up as a 2 ½ hour session with a lot of sweat and fluids (there was a call after about 90 minutes and i indicated we were having a extended booking). one of the really good things about a prolonged session is watching a gal's physical changes as she gets wetter, nipples harden, pussy gets flushed with colour, and breathes deepen. its also close to a miracle when a gal can re-excite me to keep hardening until the i drip a few pea sized milk pearls from my dick.
a wonderful thing happened as we were finishing the session off, i was standing and she was hanging outta my neck while wrapped around me. we'd definitely figured out the archimedes principle and put it into practice. while boning each other i thought that i slipped and almost fell over with no support to keep us upright. luckily i recovered and later we found that one of the lats in the bed had broken which is why we slipped. damn we fucking broke the bed fucking did we ?
cleaned up and she brought in the duvet. i showered and ordered some food, a drink and invited her to do the same. paid the bill upfront at this point – usual for an overnight stay. we sat, watched tv and had some food. after some cuddling and light kissing she said good night and i fell asleep. was woken up at 11:30am by a knock on the door.
seven
not happy i grumpily woke up and swore at the dip weed that knocked on the door. skulked under the shower and switched it on to clear my head. sent sf99 a sms to meet for lunch. somewhat refreshed and reinvigorated i noticed mr. wiggly at attention and decided why waste it. so i put on my trousers and ordered another line up.
don't remember much about the line up. chose a decent enough gal. at least, she was more awake than i was and kicked off the day by opening the curtains. low and behold the sun was up and this room did indeed have a warm seaview. i remembered that then that my plan was to have a morning fuck by the seaside and so it came to pass. didn't do too much off the menu with this gal. ended up telling her that i wanted a suck and fuck start to the day and would she mind if kept to the key topics of fucking and sucking. she did.
a solid if unspectacular performance more down to my limitations of tiredness, keeping to my plan (albeit having surpassed my original goal of six gals), and thinking with my dick first thing after waking up. pretty vigorous and energetic fucking where she had to keep pushing herself the headboard or i dragged her down to the middle of the bed. she really open up and i rammed into her as deep as could be until my morning complement of regenerated sperm exited into the condom while deep in her swelling liquid pussy. hello good morning and how are you world ?
banana888 have posted some pics with this post of the black stirrups and red rope as encouragement for you to try. as fast eddie says something which the novelty quickly wears off but worth trying for the hell of it.
misse hooking up with sf99 down to my schedule and needed to back home for sunday evening. will catch up with sf99 another time - well we always say that one day we'll actually meet up :) you are the zh dude par excellence.
eight
left zhuhai via dong men customs into macau. took the bus into the city square and meandered back to the quays. checking out the last hotel on the stretch a real meat market on the corner. a few gals standing or sitting lazily around. approached one hot looking one for fun and to see if the general attitude had improved since i last this joint out. no change – they stubbornly refused to bunch from m$500 a pop. not worth it given the variability involved in the service levels offered. guess i am too used to the quality just over the border gate. continued walking around the london hotel, walk in and gawk at the fashion display on the walk up steps. some nice cuts of meat there and decided its worth a gander. singled out a sweetie, with long flowing hair with blonde highlights and curves to boot. she started at m$400 but i said that i knew the scene better and she'd better get real if she wanted to compete with her sisters in zhuhai who went for rmb200 a pop an hour. showed her my passport with the visa stamp just an hour or so ago.
she intimated we go upstairs. i whispered that if she was wasting my time i'd be disappointed and she held my hand to walk me up. behind closed doors we negotiated on m$250 which considering exchange differences and that the standard foreigner rate arund here is m$300 was a good compromise. bear in mind i speak decently good mandarin and years of experience giving face in a negotiation.
stripped, showered and moved to the bed. opened the windows to let some air in as there was no air conditioning. good hj, followed by a sufficient bj, ample groping a young fit body with decent c cups. she mounted me on top, rode me crouched over before i pushed her up and back kung fu panda style. jez just seeing this chick lying back on my bended knees while banging me is an image worth keeping burned in my mind. well as long as until i bang another for longer and harder and wetter. she really worked her magic shaker. did a few more positions before putting in a good doggie effort. spun her around and inserted with her legs on my shoulders, going at it again while moving her to the splits. she pushed against my every thrust and looking deeply into her eyes and i shot a dribble of a load from well shot dry nuts. but i shot her while looking into her never ending deep eye pools and her hair wrapped out over the bed. no better way to cum.
cleaned up and went home two above target. dick now in splints and in need of an oily daily massage to help him relax in a supple relaxed state before ....... wapec rides again :)
Sukhumvitter
07-29-08, 01:58
Cleaned up and went home two above target. Dick now in splints and in need of an oily daily massage to help him relax in a supple relaxed state before ....... WAPEC RIDES AGAIN :)
Fcukin' A Wapec. You're a machine! :-)
GREAT report!
Thanks
Agree with Sukhumvitter. Much respect.
Thanks for the pics Wapec, unfortunately I cannot access them as my paid subscription ran out some time ago. I will renew once I can access this site without the need of a proxy which I am forced to use whilst living in China.
Anyways. Mai Hao is definitely on my agenda for my next trip although I do have reservations about having my knob set alight.
B888
Do any of you know where to get a low price on soft contact lenses- Johnson & Johnson Acuvue contact lenses?
Price and amount per box? Seems like they sell the 3 per box in Zhuhai, good for 3 months.
In the USA they no longer sell the 1 month type, but the 2 weeks per lens and 6 per box.
Thanks all.
ZhuHai seems to be much cheaper than Guangzhou. I will be visiting Zhu Hai/ Guangzhou next month and I was wondering if anyone will also be going so we could hit the clubs/places together.
Just to clarify, the Old An Chang Suana place, you pay and can sleep there for the night with the girl.
I am American Chinese so language won't be a problem, but in hitting the night scene in China, I am still very new. Hopefully I'll gain some much needed experience.
Also I was wondering, how do you tell which girls you can solicit and which you can't at a dance club? I am always curious about it, maybe I shouldn't be so shy and just ask any lol.
I am confused about KTV's as well. I can't tell if you go there to sing and drink or if you can get a girl to go home/solicit.
Any advice or help would be much appreciated.
Thanks all
Fast Eddie 48
08-01-08, 16:41
[QUOTE=Maxkwalat]ZhuHai seems to be much cheaper than Guangzhou. I will be visiting Zhu Hai/ Guangzhou next month and I was wondering if anyone will also be going so we could hit the clubs/places together.
Just to clarify, the Old An Chang Suana place, you pay and can sleep there for the night with the girl.
I am American Chinese so language won't be a problem, but in hitting the night scene in China, I am still very new. Hopefully I'll gain some much needed experience.
Also I was wondering, how do you tell which girls you can solicit and which you can't at a dance club? I am always curious about it, maybe I shouldn't be so shy and just ask any lol.
I am confused about KTV's as well. I can't tell if you go there to sing and drink or if you can get a girl to go home/solicit.
Any advice or help would be much appreciated.
Makawalt
Most saunas in Zhu Hai offer a 90 min section with the girl,If you get there after midnight, most saunas allow you to sleep overnight, but it also depend how busy they are.
Zhu Hai sauna is cheaper than Guangzhou because there are more avalible ,
If you know where to go there are many bbs and houses locals go to that you can get action for under 100 rmb .
Freelance are all over Zhu Hai SW, bar and disco are a good place to look but many have been close down the last few yr and ktv are still avalible but very expensive, so sauna is the best deal in town.
Fast eddie 48
FE,
My host took me to new Gladden KTV in Jiangmen not to far away from ZH. Classy and very impressive KTV with typical show theater. Met really nice girl last night and she's spending the weekend with me in SZ. She's new to business, very passionate, loves sex and give long BBBJ. Kind a looks like Korean movie star from Winter Sonata...
Have a good time as I'm off to KL and Taipei and return home just in time for start of Olympics.
Cheers
KTV drink, sing and bang bang. Best way is to ask at the front desk as you enter. Most will be 2/4/6 or 3/5/7 in ZH. However, no use going alone as the KTV's work best with a small to medium group.
2 = sit and chat for the night
4 = ST take home (sometimes can do onsite in an upstairs room or in a hotel close by)
6 = LT take home
With experience comes wisdom. Or as they say in China you cross teh river by feeling the stones. BTW, the info that you requested has already been posted and can be searched for. It just takes time to look for it and note it down or join it up. Happy hunting & experience gathering.
GZ is much duller than ZH and the action is harder to find. IMHO
ZhuHai seems to be much cheaper than Guangzhou. I will be visiting Zhu Hai/ Guangzhou next month and I was wondering if anyone will also be going so we could hit the clubs/places together.
Just to clarify, the Old An Chang Suana place, you pay and can sleep there for the night with the girl.
I am American Chinese so language won't be a problem, but in hitting the night scene in China, I am still very new. Hopefully I'll gain some much needed experience.
Also I was wondering, how do you tell which girls you can solicit and which you can't at a dance club? I am always curious about it, maybe I shouldn't be so shy and just ask any lol.
I am confused about KTV's as well. I can't tell if you go there to sing and drink or if you can get a girl to go home/solicit.
Any advice or help would be much appreciated.
Thanks all
Tried to PM with info but not able to. Have you signed on for PM's ?
There are different levels to KTVs. High end KTV in SZ/DG and even new Gladden in Jiangmen north of ZH is 800 for ST and 1200 for overnight for stunner model types. Lower end gritty KTVs are much cheaper and you won't find stunners. Girls at naked KTV I went last April in Humen/ChangAn costed 600 for ST and 800 for LT.
Left my heart with KTV beauty from JiangMen. Falling head over heel over a new KTV girl at new and very nice Glidden KTV. Last time this happened was 2003...
She was picked by my host's boss who owns of sizable electronics factory. He is a KTV guru and he grabbed her as she passed by with her mommy. This dude has knack for recognizing very beautiful girls.
She's new to the business (2 months) and 20 yrs old tall stunner even without any makeup. We spent the weekend together and I swear tons of dudes were checking her out when we were out together. What more is she loves sex and one of few girls I met in my life who enjoys giving looong BBBJ. I had to stop blowing me so I can pump her and she would finish me by jerking/licking/sucking me off. :)
It was true GF actions... She was so passionate and into french kissing (lips and tongues were literally tied). She looks like, get this, Korean moviestar from "Winter Sonata"! She agreed to spend the weekend (Fri night to Sun afternoon) for 3,000 RMB. It was bliss... I ended up buying her pricey shoes and gave her 500 RMB extra plus 100 RMB ferry ticket. I just hope she wouldn't get tainted by KTV lifestyle as she hates drinking, smoking and general KTV environment. Any rich man who makes her his 2nd wife will be one lucky SOB.
Sure this is damn pricey since 3 other mongers from ISG and I went to Lohu BBS last night for only 150 but it's dirt cheap compared to getting girl like her in Korea or Japan and US.
KTV drink, sing and bang bang. Best way is to ask at the front desk as you enter. Most will be 2/4/6 or 3/5/7 in ZH. However, no use going alone as the KTV's work best with a small to medium group.
2 = sit and chat for the night
4 = ST take home (sometimes can do onsite in an upstairs room or in a hotel close by)
6 = LT take home
With experience comes wisdom. Or as they say in China you cross teh river by feeling the stones. BTW, the info that you requested has already been posted and can be searched for. It just takes time to look for it and note it down or join it up. Happy hunting & experience gathering.
GZ is much duller than ZH and the action is harder to find. IMHO
Thanks for all your replies. It really clarifies alot of things.
I can't wait till September when I go, will definitely share my adventures with all.
Will be signing up for PM's soon.
Anyone going to be there during september?
Fast Eddie 48
08-04-08, 01:54
There are different levels to KTVs. High end KTV in SZ/DG and even new Gladden in Jiangmen north of ZH is 800 for ST and 1200 for overnight for stunner model types. Lower end gritty KTVs are much cheaper and you won't find stunners. Girls at naked KTV I went last April in Humen/ChangAn costed 600 for ST and 800 for LT.
Left my heart with KTV beauty from JiangMen. Falling head over heel over a new KTV girl at new and very nice Glidden KTV. Last time this happened was 2003...
She was picked by my host's boss who owns of sizable electronics factory. He is a KTV guru and he grabbed her as she passed by with her mommy. This dude has knack for recognizing very beautiful girls.
She's new to the business (2 months) and 20 yrs old tall stunner even without any makeup. We spent the weekend together and I swear tons of dudes were checking her out when we were out together. What more is she loves sex and one of few girls I met in my life who enjoys giving looong BBBJ. I had to stop blowing me so I can pump her and she would finish me by jerking/licking/sucking me off. :)
It was true GF actions... She was so passionate and into french kissing (lips and tongues were literally tied). She looks like, get this, Korean moviestar from "Winter Sonata"! She agreed to spend the weekend (Fri night to Sun afternoon) for 3,000 RMB. It was bliss... I ended up buying her pricey shoes and gave her 500 RMB extra plus 100 RMB ferry ticket. I just hope she wouldn't get tainted by KTV lifestyle as she hates drinking, smoking and general KTV environment. Any rich man who makes her his 2nd wife will be one lucky SOB.
Sure this is damn pricey since 3 other mongers from ISG and I went to Lohu BBS last night for only 150 but it's dirt cheap compared to getting girl like her in Korea or Japan and US.Soulman,
There are many low cost ktv in Shenzhen at Huangang and Ha sha area.
Small room start at 200 rmb with a bucket of beer, and lady is start at 300 rmb for take out, but rooms are small.
I think your Jiangmen beauty is looking for a sugar daddy.
Do you have the address on Gladden ktv?
I only been Jianmen once.
It is a nice town with many Taiwanese who own factories there.
Fast eddie 48
Anybody interested in joining for a quick tour in CP, Chang An or Zhuhai?
Am in CP now and for a couple of days more and want to go to Zhuhai starting from next weekend 9 or 10.8.
If you are going to or are from/in Zhuhai than I would be happy if you could PM me. Maybe we can meet in ZH or you could introduce me to some major Sauna, BBS, (or KTV) places in ZH .
BBS, KTV, naked KTV, Sauna, "Massages", etc.
I know all the well known and some self discovered places in CP and speak some chinese.
Just PM me.
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It was true GF actions... She was so passionate and into french kissing (lips and tongues were literally tied). She looks like, get this, Korean moviestar from "Winter Sonata"! She agreed to spend the weekend (Fri night to Sun afternoon) for 3,000 RMB. It was bliss... I ended up buying her pricey shoes and gave her 500 RMB extra plus 100 RMB ferry ticket. I just hope she wouldn't get tainted by KTV lifestyle as she hates drinking, smoking and general KTV environment. Any rich man who makes her his 2nd wife will be one lucky SOB.
Sure this is damn pricey since 3 other mongers from ISG and I went to Lohu BBS last night for only 150 but it's dirt cheap compared to getting girl like her in Korea or Japan and US.
Sorry I have to flame you. I would guess you just spent 4000-5500RMB on her. You just ruined it for the next regular guy. This is a girl you just met only once during a weekend. You don't really know her yet. Are you planning to see her again, most likely NO! If I want to take her out now, she would expect the same payment and treatment. She developed an attitude about money and foreigners. You just spooled her. I remember reading a post where a girl called someone a cheap baster because he gave a tip less than his friend who did her a week earlier.
Yes, it is cheaper than other places but the cost of living is different. Most people only make about 600-800RMB in a resturant. Then 800 to 2000 in a factory. A college grad entry level job is 1500 to 1800 starting. These working girls in China make equivalent to what doctors and lawyers make. Would you play a working girl, lawyer or doctor an extra $1000USD for good service in the USA? Your friend just made in one weekend what an average worker makes in three to four months. Don't feel sorry for these girls especially the very pretty ones because they make the most. You should feel sorry for the maids and other common service workers with low wages.
I know other members would agree with me and I can give you examples. This subject has been take about before, overpaying. Then if you add the drop in the exchange rate, it's getting expensive. The rate is expected to drop even more, then price of oil going higher, making it even more expensive in the future.
I am guilty of over paying too but it's only after I known the girl for some time but not that much. Believe me they are happy to get repeat customers because they know you and know what to expect. Then giving them a larger and larger tip each time.
Please don't over tip and look like a foreign sucker. People like you who just drop by once in a while and spool it for the rest. A big example is during the Canton Fair. Prices are higher because guys are willing pay their stupid asking price, what a BSD. It seems like you don't care.
Superforce99
08-04-08, 07:50
Sorry I have to flame you. You just ruined it for the next regular guy. This is a girl you just met only once during a weekend. You don't really know her yet. Are you planning to see her again, most likely NO! If I want to take her out now, she would expect the same payment and treatment. She developed an attitude about money and foreigners. You just spooled her. I remember reading a post where a girl called someone a cheap baster because he gave a tip less than his friend who did her a week earlier.
Yes, it is cheaper than other places but the cost of living is different. Most people only make about 600-800RMB in a resturant. Then 800 to 2000 in a factory. A college grad entry level job is 1500 to 1800 starting. These working girls in China make equivalent to what doctors and lawyers make. Would you play a working girl, lawyer or doctor an extra $1000USD for good service in the USA? Your friend just made in one weekend what an average worker makes in three to four months. Don't feel sorry for these girls especially the very pretty ones because they make the most. You should feel sorry for the maids and other common service workers with low wages.
I know other members would agree with me and I can give you examples. This subject has been take about before, overpaying. Then if you add the drop in the exchange rate, it's getting expensive. The rate is expected to drop even more, making it even more expensive in the future.
I am guilty of over paying too but it's only after I known the girl for some time but not that much. Believe me they are happy to get repeat customers because they know you and know what to expect. Then giving them a larger and larger tip each time.
Please don't over tip and look like a foreign sucker. People like you who just drop by once in a while and spool it for the rest. A big example is during the Canton Fair. Prices are higher because guys are willing pay their stupid asking price. I would guess you just spent 4000-5500RMB on her, what a BSD.
Weelock, I couldn't really let this one slide by without sharing my thoughts...
Yes, Soulman paid what seems like a high amount to spend time with
his dream gal, but, well....if you can, then you do it. How many times in
your life can you actually CHOOSE to pay and spend time with a beautiful
gal who will fuck you into blissful oblivion and actually make you feel like
she likes it as well? I don't know how your life is working out, but I think the
majority of men don't get many chances like that. We all can pay for fucking/sex,
especially in China, but rarely does that mean a temporary GF experince in and
out of the bedroom.
Did Soulman ruin it for the next guy trying to take her out of the KTV for a
good time? It's hard to say...
Is the next guy a fat, ugly, cheap bastard? Well, yeah, then Soulman ruined
the chances for that guy...*boo* *hoo*...fuck that guy
Is the next guy an ugly, cheap bastard? Well, yeah, then Soulman ruined
the chances for that guy, too...*boo* *hoo*...fuck that guy with a stick
Is the next guy a cheap bastard? Well, yeah, then Soulman ruined the chances
for that guy, too...*boo* *hoo*...fuck that guy with a thorny stick
Is the next guy an interesting guy, charming and not broke? Well, then studly
Soulman has helped this guy in a very positive way...
Basically, Soulman just showed this gal that going out for an extended time with
a guy she meets in a KTV can actually be fun, satisfying, and rewarding, not just fucking
a lame loser that she usually feels is the end result. So, in fact, we should all be happy
and THANKING Soulman, not flaming him. I mean, how many fat, ugly, cheap bastards
have already taken this girl out? I'm sure they've offered her many many thousands of
RMB just to dine/fuck with them and whether she accepted or not, I'm sure she didn't
give a shit because girls work in KTV to make money, not for enjoyment, so she was
making money. And yes, being with Soulman is another chance to make money but also
to enjoy herself. In essensce, Soulman got a fantasy fulfilled while fulfilling one of her
fantasies as well.
Now, the next time a nice, presentable guy offers to take her on a fun weekend somewhere,
she can remember that stud Soulman and actually think about it and maybe even accept
the invitation.
The only people who might be upset about this situation are fat/ugly/cheap/lame/sloppy
bastards...so what type are you?
SF99
The only people who might be upset about this situation are fat/ugly/cheap/lame/sloppy
bastards...so what type are you?
SF99
I'm all the above. You forgot OLD fart, POOR boy and SHORT stack. I'm also losing my hair.
Humm, I remember you were complaining about me and others over tipping and it wasn't for that much.
This is not the first time Soulman overpaid with deep pockets. After reading some of the older posts, I don't think he negotiated but I might be wrong. I think Soulman just agreed with the first quoted price from her, most likely towards the high end but I am just guessing.
Clean Gene
08-04-08, 08:36
Sorry I have to flame you. I would guess you just spent 4000-5500RMB on her. You just ruined it for the next regular guy.
Prices are higher because guys are willing pay their stupid asking price, what a BSD. It seems like you don't care.
I have in the past ruined it for other guys. And I felt good. Like I have paid for tuition or hospital bills. (I will take a look, first hand of course. Just call me "sucker".)
Guys
Can we get back to the real topic of good pussy ? I can see validity in Clean Gene, SF99, Soulman & Weelock's pov. Each to their own since they all seem to know their way around China.
Pls let's move on to hunting and punting again honourable bro's:)
Dear all friends,
I've heard a lot of good things about DaMingYuan but I have no idea where it is. Any of you can give me direction to go to DaMingYuan starting from the "umbrella bars", I'd appreciate it.
Thank's guys.
Guys,
We have different views and valid points when it comes to overpaying on both sides. I'm glad we can talk about it like gents and not in flaming fashion as "overpaying" is rather hot topic like talking politics in the ISG arena. I ought to know as I've been WSG/ISH member starting 1997 when it was rather simple and unknown with 2 major format changes. I've been semi-active here since the last major format change in 2003.
Hey Weeklock, did we meet before? Perhaps thru OAH on cruising around the SZ BBSs or DG KTVs?
SF99, I agree completely and at the same time understand where Weelock is coming from. By the way, Weelock's points represent majority of the mongers in SZ/DG/ZH message boards. Fellow monger Sukhumvitter and I shared a taxi ride after fun and satisfying (rare as all 4 of us had good BBS actions!) BBS actions with Santa and Wadman last Sunday night and he shared Weelock or majority's views. This view is strong among those mongers living in China vs. visitor like me who show up every 3 months or so on business and wouldn't mind paying for nice service as I'm comparing to what I'd pay in US and for that matter Korea where I also visit often.
Did I spoil my girl? You bet?
Was she blown away by me spending 4,000 RMB on her? Absolutely.
Did I ruin it for next moger? Yep.
Was she worth it? Completely!
Would I see her again and spend 4k RMB for blissful weekend with stunning beauty who loves to have sex with me? Hell yeah, worth every stinkin RMB.
Again no problem paying for truly memorable GFE experience with stunner... She got me horny and I lasted long time and really enjoyed hot repeated passionate sex and yeah I've been around to know when girls "pretend".
Thanks SF99 for following quotes:
"Basically, Soulman just showed this gal that going out for an extended time with a guy she meets in a KTV can actually be fun, satisfying, and rewarding,"
"How many times in your life can you actually CHOOSE to pay and spend time with a beautiful gal who will fuck you into blissful oblivion and actually make you feel like she likes it as well?"
PS - I'm in Penang now and off to Taipei for a day before returning to the states. Man, I miss my love and will count the days till I return to see her in Oct. Hopefully she is not taken than.
Cheers bros
I have in the past ruined it for other guys. And I felt good. Like I have paid for tuition or hospital bills. (I will take a look, first hand of course. Just call me "sucker".)Gents,
I have 2 young daughters. They're lucky they were born to good parents and don't need to work as working girls. It's cruel life and sometimes we make "bad" choice but who the hell we to look down on those making "bad choice"?
Girls are doing this as desperate choice. They hate rude, vulgar, cheap assholes. They appreciate kind men who show respect and kindness and understanding. They all have sad stories why they do what they do and CG is spot on. Sick family member and putting younger brother or sister to school.
So guys, be kind and understing and show respect to all you meet including working girls.
Now I'll get off my soapbox.
DMY is not within walking distance of the umbrella bars. Best bet is to hop in a taxi and just say the magic three words DA MING YANG
Post on your results and impressions. Some love the place others are only so so.
Dear all friends,
I've heard a lot of good things about DaMingYuan but I have no idea where it is. Any of you can give me direction to go to DaMingYuan starting from the "umbrella bars", I'd appreciate it.
Thank's guys.
Superforce99
08-05-08, 15:07
DMY is not within walking distance of the umbrella bars. Best bet is to hop in a taxi and just say the magic three words DA MING YANG
Post on your results and impressions. Some love the place others are only so so.
Actually, it's "Da Ming Yuan", but I'm sure the taxi driver will understand you anyway.
And by the way, DMY is the only place I've ever heard of where taxi drivers actually go, too, ha ha...it's that cheap. I had a short discussion one time with a taxi driver about the place; his take on DMY was that it was cheap, good service, and OK-but-not-great girls, which is essentially a good assessment. So now you know what you/me/we have in common with a Chinese taxi driver! Ha ha...
SF
Superforce99
08-05-08, 16:53
And last comment on this "spoiling the market thing", since I've gotten some, *ahem*..."confused" PMs...
What Soulman did is not spoil the market. The girl he was with came from a high-end KTV and that is her market. There will be plenty of guys after her and they will be paying 1200+ RMB a night for her and more to spend several days together. Nobody is going to be paying 130 RMB to fuck her ST is my point. So Soulman spent a relatively big amount of money to be with her, but it was more or less within the market for a girl like her. That's why I don't get this "spoiling the market" accusation. It's not like he found a Seibu/BBS gal and paid that price.
Now, if Soulman were to offer this gal 10,000 RMB to give him a HJ in the KTV bathroom in between songs, then, yes, he's spoiling the market. If Soulman were to offer the gal 5000 RMB to spend a night with him, then, yes, he's spoiling the market. But he didn't and isn't....
IMFs (ignorant mother fuckers) are everywhere and both local and foreign, and they are IMFs because they follow the definition of spoiling the market by knowing the prevailing/going price and yet paying a higher price for no reason. It's not the simple action of spending lots of money on a girl that makes you an IMF, it's that you spend MORE than you SHOULD.
Did Soulman go beyond the normal rate? Not really. Did he tip her a few 100 RMB extra and buy her some shoes? Sure, but it sounded like the girl gave him something above and beyond paid sex...satisfaction and bliss. I can buy a hot piece of ass anytime for 3000-4000 RMB in China, but if I could buy satisfaction and bliss for only a few 100 RMB and shoes, I'd do it all the damn time...
So if you put it into perspective, he paid the general rate to spend time with a top-shelf KTV gal. And then he gave her a nice (not crazy) tip and some shoes because she was such an awesome experience.
I think lots of mongers forget that p4p in China means you'll get sex...that's it. It certainly doesn't mean you'll like it or or even have a good time...you'll get sex. Period. That's why I don't get when mongers are angry that she was a dead lay/didn't like touching/didn't allow kissing. She's not fucking you out of desire, it's desire for $. So when you get something more emotional, well, people show their delight/happiness/satisfaction/bliss in different ways....money, shoes, bags of oranges, ugly sweaters, moon cakes, etc.
So, anyway, my point is that Soulman found a top-shelf KTV gal, paid her a reasonable market price to spend time with her, and gave her a very nice tip. The next guy who takes her out will need to pay about the same price to take her out for a few days, but she will probably not expect a very nice tip...but if that next guy is as nice, fun, and charming as Soulman, then she might expect one. But if this guy really is as nice, fun, and charming as Soulman, then this guy would give a very nice tip anyway, I believe. So, my long soapbox rant can be boiled down to:
Is the next guy a cheap, boring bastard? Well, yeah, then Soulman ruined
the chances for that guy...*boo* *hoo*...fuck that guy with a broom handle
and give him directions to Seibu....or DMY...or his hand...
*****************
OK, no more on that stuff above, I promise...
So for a little nugget of ZH information, I can let you know that there are fewer LHL gals than normal and during the prime time hours of 8-12midnight, there are few patrolling and they are very careful and quick in approaching mongers on LHL. After about 2am, there are a lot standing in front of the Old Chang An Hotel's entrance, about 10-15 and you can just walk up and chat to the one you like.
Also, a white-skin foreigner friend had trouble at DMY a few days ago and could not get service. I think because of the Olympics they are trying to cut down on the visibility of certain saunas. I say certain saunas because he had no trouble going to Chang An Good World a few minutes later and getting service. Not sure about the other saunas, so those non-Asian members who have had good/bad experiences in saunas recently, please post.
Stay safe,
SF99
And what a jewel of a garden it is too ..... soapbox or not ...... nice to know being taken for a ride is the common ground between myself and a Chinese taxi driver.
Actually, it's "Da Ming Yuan", but I'm sure the taxi driver will understand you anyway.
SF
The is a price for everything in China where nobody knows the value of anything :D The only market is the market for LOVE (or something like it)
Clean Gene
08-06-08, 07:42
[QUOTE=Wapec]Motivated myself for another wicked weekend in Zhuhai. Funny how knowing you're gonna be working like a monkey for peanuts makes one make the most of precious time. Arrived Zhuhai Friday night at 10:30pm with the target of nailing six gals over the weekend and head straight to LHL.
ONE
Nice shower with soapy action. Cleaned off didi with a water filled bbbj. She allowed me to clean her parts including a good fingering.
Real quick the room fills up and I am a happy camper welcoming the gals in and walking the line up shaking their hands. Trying to chat and decide which ones are keen. Make a few assessments and dismiss the rest before investing some time in remaining line up. I ask a few questions, ask preferences, and make some small jokes (I don't think they're funny but they usually get a chuckle from the Chinese). Anyway, I hone in on one but haven't finished getting jollies just yet. Yes I do get off as much as the next guy on a cheap thrill. So I walk the line cupping breasts, squeezing and feeling up a pussy or two before I declare my decision which is the one gal I didn't feel up. Tee hee hee and there is some logic to that she now thinks that I treat her special in front of the others so she has some face. Even in a sauna ***** house the relativities matter in China.
GOOD GOING DUDE!
Brings me back happy memories of Vietnam. We'd stop the Chinese women, drop their pants and search them for "contraband". Fun watching the faces of the gals and of their companions.
Jettsetter
08-06-08, 19:31
Guys,
We have different views and valid points when it comes to overpaying on both sides. I'm glad we can talk about it like gents and not in flaming fashion as "overpaying" is rather hot topic like talking politics in the ISG arena. I ought to know as I've been WSG/ISH member starting 1997 when it was rather simple and unknown with 2 major format changes. I've been semi-active here since the last major format change in 2003.
Hey Weeklock, did we meet before? Perhaps thru OAH on cruising around the SZ BBSs or DG KTVs?
SF99, I agree completely and at the same time understand where Weelock is coming from. By the way, Weelock's points represent majority of the mongers in SZ/DG/ZH message boards. Fellow monger Sukhumvitter and I shared a taxi ride after fun and satisfying (rare as all 4 of us had good BBS actions!) BBS actions with Santa and Wadman last Sunday night and he shared Weelock or majority's views. This view is strong among those mongers living in China vs. visitor like me who show up every 3 months or so on business and wouldn't mind paying for nice service as I'm comparing to what I'd pay in US and for that matter Korea where I also visit often.
Did I spoil my girl? You bet?
Was she blown away by me spending 4,000 RMB on her? Absolutely.
Did I ruin it for next moger? Yep.
Was she worth it? Completely!
Would I see her again and spend 4k RMB for blissful weekend with stunning beauty who loves to have sex with me? Hell yeah, worth every stinkin RMB.
Again no problem paying for truly memorable GFE experience with stunner... She got me horny and I lasted long time and really enjoyed hot repeated passionate sex and yeah I've been around to know when girls "pretend".
Thanks SF99 for following quotes:
"Basically, Soulman just showed this gal that going out for an extended time with a guy she meets in a KTV can actually be fun, satisfying, and rewarding,"
"How many times in your life can you actually CHOOSE to pay and spend time with a beautiful gal who will fuck you into blissful oblivion and actually make you feel like she likes it as well?"
PS - I'm in Penang now and off to Taipei for a day before returning to the states. Man, I miss my love and will count the days till I return to see her in Oct. Hopefully she is not taken than.
Cheers bros
I really don't see such thing as "overpaying" for an experience like that. It's really what you can get away with. if you she wouldn't have gone with you unless you paid that much, then you are not overpaying. You may be perceived to be by her as a "sucker," if she's just inflating the market, but if you want a good, and it's only available for a certain price, and you really want it, then that's what you have to pay.
The next guy that comes around, will set his new bar. She will have to make the decision on whether she stays firm or not.
I think this scenario - a GFE weekend where you take her away somewhere is completely different than the average "ST" where you either pay 250 or 200 or 150... and you agree to always pay on the high end...
Honestly though, girls don't like stingy guys... might you guys get better service the less stingy you are? I think yes. But every girl is different... if it's just about the conquest and the lay without regard to the "experience" i.e. GFE vs. mechanical... then I guess it's like buying a cigarette... same difference, doesn't matter what kind you get.
But with girls it's a little different.. I've seen girls turn from hot to cold when you try to be stingy with them. In the end, for great service, I always give them a little more. I'm not the only guy...
Ask a girl who she prefers to be with and who she'd give better service to, and they categorize them by races, and most of the time, it's based on the level of "generosity" on some level.
Look, if you were a waiter, and someone was generous to you, you'd give them better service, no? it's just human nature... not to say you wouldn't provide your basic level of service, but that generosity creates that fondness... sorry, but true.
So I don't see this as "ruining" the market. IF the girl wants to eat, and nobody is willing to pay what Soulman paid, she will have to restructure her market. But so long as there is a market for the prices being offered, she will continue to demand it. Plain and simple.
As such, to each his own in my opinion. I don't want to bang the girl that my taxi driver bangs.... so while I could go to the Catacombs and get a 35 RMB girl, I'm not going to... it's not just about the price, but quality and experience.
For that same reason, I'd rather go get a KTV gal who's doing it once a day as opposed to a BBS girl who's doing it 3-4 times a day...
All differences of opinion, but I see the other side about staying firm on the market and letting the buyers rule the market... however like with all other things, when you have gems or things that are better quality, you're willing to pay more for it, which sounds like what Soulman got and went after.
Don't kid yourselves guys, there are plenty of rich chinese, hong kongnese, singaporeans, who keep girls in CP at the rate of 8000-15000 RMB per month, put them up in a place and have them to themselves... are they ruining the market? I don't think so because for every girl that is kept, there are 5 others to replace the void they left. There are way more girls than mongers in CP, so you'll always have the upper hand.
I think it just depends on the type of girl and honestly, TIMING.
just my two pennies.
-Jett
Let's focus on the pussy not the personality. Where is the pussy and how good is it ?
Let's focus on the pussy not the personality. Where is the pussy and how good is it ?
Correctamundo. Some like the infamous CP catacombs (UGH and never again for me), BBS, SW, freebie GF and 3-star to 5-star KTVs. All at different price points and may I say level of pleasure. :)
So where's the good SW actions in ZH? I was in ZH twice in 2004 and had a good time picking up few SWs based on the posts here.
I'm in BORING Taipei now on my way back to US. Will be back in Oct and would like to hold mini ZH monger party at where else but JM Gladden KTV.
Cheers
Well said Jett,
Sorry we didn't cross this time but maybe next time.
As for quote on BBS girls, 3 to 4 times for hot BBS girls over her 20 hr shift on busy weekend is an understatement. All BBS girls want is for you to come ASAP so they can freshen up and get another john. I heard 8 to 10 per day... It's all business or economics. KTV girls don't fuck as much. Of course it all depends on each girl but 3 to 4 times weekly for hot girl is what I hear as many local men rather grab SW or BBS girls rather than shell out 800 for ST.
I also heard about well to do dude putting up their choice girls in their flats plus generous stipend in 8k to 15k ranges. No kiddin as these guys want nice GFE actions and really don't want their girls to be well, *****s.
If I came often and had little bit of money than I'd put up my new GF in JM too.
Cheers
As such, to each his own in my opinion. I don't want to bang the girl that my taxi driver bangs.... so while I could go to the Catacombs and get a 35 RMB girl, I'm not going to... it's not just about the price, but quality and experience.
For that same reason, I'd rather go get a KTV gal who's doing it once a day as opposed to a BBS girl who's doing it 3-4 times a day...
All differences of opinion, but I see the other side about staying firm on the market and letting the buyers rule the market... however like with all other things, when you have gems or things that are better quality, you're willing to pay more for it, which sounds like what Soulman got and went after.
Don't kid yourselves guys, there are plenty of rich chinese, hong kongnese, singaporeans, who keep girls in CP at the rate of 8000-15000 RMB per month, put them up in a place and have them to themselves... are they ruining the market? I don't think so because for every girl that is kept, there are 5 others to replace the void they left. There are way more girls than mongers in CP, so you'll always have the upper hand.
I think it just depends on the type of girl and honestly, TIMING.
just my two pennies.
-Jett
I will be going to South China (Guangzhou, ZhuHai, DongGuan) During early September. I would love to meet up with people at some of these places to be initiated at a KTV place so hopefully other ISG members will also be there. Also I am wondering how the more experienced members take pictures of their girls. I thought alot of places don't let you bring a camera. I am assuming those girls are all taken into your own hotels and thats where pictures are taken. Also I do not have a China Drivers License or Identification card so will I still be able to book into a hotel?
I guess its a noobie question and I apologize before hand. Hopefully someone can help me, and hopefully when I go during September I will be able to party with some of you people
Good night
Superforce99
08-08-08, 10:47
A few nights ago, I went to get a body massage and experienced what could only be categorized
as Olympic ridiculousness...
First, there was a Chinese posting on the front door informing customers of new policies in
effect since Aug. 1. I didn't really pay attention except for the closing time of 2:00am
whereas before the place was essentially 24 hours a day.
It was a humid, muggy night so I was sweating a bit, but not too much. I wanted to take a
shower before the massage as I sometimes do and was informed that one of the new Aug. 1
regulations was showers are permitted only AFTER the massage. Made no sense to me, but then
if I let ever non-sensical thing in China get to me, I'd be insane long ago...
As I was getting the massage, I notice that the opaque film that used to block the glass on
the door had been removed so you could clearly see what was going on inside the rooms. Also,
without prompting her, the girl informed me that she could no longer lower the lights in the room.
I've never gotten FS or attempted to get FS in this particular establishment, and it was 99%
legit (no place in China is 100% legit...) as far as I knew so it was pretty extreme and shows
how far-reaching the decrees from Beijing's Central Government have gone...
After the massage, the girl sheepishly said I could now take a shower and then left the room.
By the time I was done, it was about 2:10am and I actually had to take the back entrance out
of the place because the front door was locked.
"One world one dream" of no extras at the massage joints! Checked out a nearby sauna place later
on and no problems, though...
SF99
A few nights ago, I went to get a body massage and experienced what could only be categorized
as Olympic ridiculousness...
First, there was a Chinese posting on the front door informing customers of new policies in
effect since Aug. 1. I didn't really pay attention except for the closing time of 2:00am
whereas before the place was essentially 24 hours a day.
It was a humid, muggy night so I was sweating a bit, but not too much. I wanted to take a
shower before the massage as I sometimes do and was informed that one of the new Aug. 1
regulations was showers are permitted only AFTER the massage. Made no sense to me, but then
if I let ever non-sensical thing in China get to me, I'd be insane long ago...
As I was getting the massage, I notice that the opaque film that used to block the glass on
the door had been removed so you could clearly see what was going on inside the rooms. Also,
without prompting her, the girl informed me that she could no longer lower the lights in the room.
I've never gotten FS or attempted to get FS in this particular establishment, and it was 99%
legit (no place in China is 100% legit...) as far as I knew so it was pretty extreme and shows
how far-reaching the decrees from Beijing's Central Government have gone...
After the massage, the girl sheepishly said I could now take a shower and then left the room.
By the time I was done, it was about 2:10am and I actually had to take the back entrance out
of the place because the front door was locked.
"One world one dream" of no extras at the massage joints! Checked out a nearby sauna place later
on and no problems, though...
SF99If someone had told me that some day I would hate the Olypics, I would have called him names. But the Chinese can achieve many unimaginable things. But Olympic ridiculousness is still an exclusively Chinese privilege.
Nuts... SF99's experiences for body massage sounds idiotic so far away from BJ (that's BeiJing guys).
Back home watching CBS news and got a chuckle or 2...
Few no nos during Olympics - no outside cafes, all bars close by 2 AM (most "intreresting" bars are closed all together) and of course limit outside gathering by prohibiting the use of large outside screens on the parks forcing people to watch the opening ceremony at home.
I worked in 1984 LA Olympics as security guard during the college years and it was let's say festive and fun. Exchange cigarettes for pins in UC Santa Barbara dorms for rowers/kayakers and confisticate liquors at LA Coliseum turnstile and get drunk on the job. And some girl volunteers screwing athletes. :)
Guess the idea is that us mongers are left to only dream ..... that would opaque the door window no doubt ?
Slower Better
08-09-08, 20:07
Hi All,
Was in Zhuhai and had no problems with DMY. Had 693 (top 10) with very good service and no condom action Also understand that number 5 is now one of the top 10.
Was also introduced to number 12, who has been there about a month. Allegedly 16 years old, very cute, but somewhat sedentary.
I have uploaded a couple of pictures of a local 21 years old gal from a BBS. For those interested, I have a telephone number of the BBS and there are quite a few nice girls I have picked up from there. Please PM me for the number.
Superforce, how about an unidentifiable picture of the current girl friend after all of the raving and ranting. Please and pretty please?
For those of you watching the 2008 Beijing Olympics and interested in a souvenir, I have a friend who has access to quite a few of these shirts in various sizes and will mail them to you for postage only. About 12-16 USDollars.
Slower Better
08-09-08, 20:42
Hi All,
Was in Zhuhai and had no problems with DMY. Had 693 (top 10) with very good service and no condom action Also understand that number 5 is now one of the top 10.
Was also introduced to number 12, who has been there about a month. Allegedly 16 years old, very cute, but somewhat sedentary.
I have uploaded a couple of pictures of a local 21 years old gal from a BBS. For those interested, I have a telephone number of the BBS and there are quite a few nice girls I have picked up from there. Please PM me for the number.
Superforce, how about an unidentifiable picture of the current girl friend after all of the raving and ranting. Please and pretty please?
For those of you watching the 2008 Beijing Olympics and interested in a souvenir, I have a friend who has access to quite a few of these shirts in various sizes and will mail them to you for postage only. About 12-16 USDollars.
Superforce99
08-10-08, 04:21
Hi All,
Was in Zhuhai and had no problems with DMY....
Let's see here...
1. White skin? ...negative
2. Chinese language? ...fluent
3. Familiarity with DMY? ...first name basis with most managers
Ha ha, Mr. Manimal, if you ever have a problem with DMY, that will be the real doomsday...
SF
Hi All,
Was in Zhuhai and had no problems with DMY. Had 693 (top 10) with very good service and no condom action Also understand that number 5 is now one of the top 10.
Was also introduced to number 12, who has been there about a month. Allegedly 16 years old, very cute, but somewhat sedentary.
I have uploaded a couple of pictures of a local 21 years old gal from a BBS. For those interested, I have a telephone number of the BBS and there are quite a few nice girls I have picked up from there. Please PM me for the number.
Superforce, how about an unidentifiable picture of the current girl friend after all of the raving and ranting. Please and pretty please?
For those of you watching the 2008 Beijing Olympics and interested in a souvenir, I have a friend who has access to quite a few of these shirts in various sizes and will mail them to you for postage only. About 12-16 USDollars.Cool shirts but I doubt it they have them in us sizes, China sizes are quite different than us. Even 2xl will not fit someone who normally wear a us large. But still interested in where I could purchase them.
Da Dicknotist
08-10-08, 09:48
Soulman: 3000 RMB from Friday night to Sunday afternoon , eh? A hot girl at a nice KTV would make that Friday and Saturday night - 1500 LT is a very fair price on busy nights for top notch ass in a top notch joint. And then considering the shoes and the 600 RMB as cost for her day time hours... Rather than the criticism that you overpaid, I think there's a valid point that you probably paid *below market* for a spectacular time.
Max: a lot of places don't allow a camera, but you can still get them in as they don't search you. Most of the pics here are from camera phones. You don't need a China ID to book a hotel, but you will need your passport. There are a couple of guys that can waive that requirement as well, as I'm sure you'll find out.
No sympathies about the Olympics. I couldn't even get a bloody massage in Shanghai at a couple of venues. They restricted their customer base to only those who had a VIP card, could speak Shanghainese, or could order a masseuse by number. Supposed to be a legit place too. Fuckin A. In good old Shenzhen though, everything is insane. Seibu is absolutely off the hook, there's now a small contingent of WGs in front of the Sunshine hotel, and the Internet bar across the street from Seibu is 50% WG.
Wrong thread, but since there's no action in the SZ thread I'll post it here - I found bliss: sauna style service attitude at a BBS price. The girl's brand new to the Sha Zui area BBS, just got out of one of the saunas in Luohu, and still has the sauna treatment in tact. Not sure why she left the sauna as it's probably a lot more lucrative.
General question - all the good porn sites are blocked. What do you guys use in China?
Superforce99
08-10-08, 12:29
Superforce, how about an unidentifiable picture of the current girl friend after all of the raving and ranting. Please and pretty please?
Raving? Ranting? How could I do that when you haven't called me in ages!! Ha ha...but anyway, since you know the magic words and used it 2x, I'll attach 2 pics...
By the way, I threw away that ugly panty/bra set after that pic. She usually lounges around in that kind of stuff but now I just have her walk nude around the apt instead. Little wonder it seems like "one thing leads to another" and we fuck several times a day, everyday...
And looks like we like the same kind of body on a gal, eh? Fit, trim, and perky breasts. I love fucking her in a semi-missionary position with her laying down and I'm on my knees because her firm stomach muscles are a real visual turn on...
SF99
Hi All,
Was in Zhuhai and had no problems with DMY. Had 693 (top 10) with very good service and no condom action Also understand that number 5 is now one of the top 10.
Was also introduced to number 12, who has been there about a month. Allegedly 16 years old, very cute, but somewhat sedentary.
I have uploaded a couple of pictures of a local 21 years old gal from a BBS. For those interested, I have a telephone number of the BBS and there are quite a few nice girls I have picked up from there. Please PM me for the number.
Superforce, how about an unidentifiable picture of the current girl friend after all of the raving and ranting. Please and pretty please?
For those of you watching the 2008 Beijing Olympics and interested in a souvenir, I have a friend who has access to quite a few of these shirts in various sizes and will mail them to you for postage only. About 12-16 USDollars.I am interested, where can I get those?
Dude,
Glad to hear you had a "ball" in SZ.
I used anonymizer site to access ISG:
http://tntproxy.com/
Ah miss my love so damn much. Called her and she was so excited and happy to hear from me... Nice girl with only 2 months into biz and one of best lay I've had - damn good out of this world GFE actions... Worth every stinkin 4k RMB! Can't wait to see her in Oct.
Yep was in Seibu week ago Sun night with fellow ISG mongers old timer Santa, Wadman who I partied at naked KTV 3 months ago and Sukhumvitter. Shops were closed but girls were out front and corners grabbing arms. Many cute ones too. We decided to go to another BBS near Lowu. Sorry forgot the name of the joint. We cruised around and found our dates. I chose older girl and man she really liked to fuck. I didn't think I can get it up after blissful weekend with my KTV darling with a BBS girl in grimy room but she got me going initiating different positions. I even went down on her. Joined the other 3 mongers and I guess I took longer than other 3. Heck unsual for me to screw that long at BBSs. Funny thing is all 4 of us had good lay for stinkin 150 RMB. :)
So venture out to SZ boys! I had no prob getting sexy massage at my hotel in Jiangmen. I did decline after seeing my choices. Price was 600 RMB.
Soulman: 3000 RMB from Friday night to Sunday afternoon , eh? A hot girl at a nice KTV would make that Friday and Saturday night - 1500 LT is a very fair price on busy nights for top notch ass in a top notch joint. And then considering the shoes and the 600 RMB as cost for her day time hours... Rather than the criticism that you overpaid, I think there's a valid point that you probably paid *below market* for a spectacular time.
In good old Shenzhen though, everything is insane. Seibu is absolutely off the hook, there's now a small contingent of WGs in front of the Sunshine hotel, and the Internet bar across the street from Seibu is 50% WG.
Wrong thread, but since there's no action in the SZ thread I'll post it here - I found bliss: sauna style service attitude at a BBS price. The girl's brand new to the Sha Zui area BBS, just got out of one of the saunas in Luohu, and still has the sauna treatment in tact. Not sure why she left the sauna as it's probably a lot more lucrative.
General question - all the good porn sites are blocked. What do you guys use in China?
SF99,
Dude you know how to pick the babes. Man she had awesome body - just the kind I pick. Good taste! What a pleasure for you to have babe like her run around naked in your pad.
By the way, I threw away that ugly panty/bra set after that pic. She usually lounges around in that kind of stuff but now I just have her walk nude around the apt instead. Little wonder it seems like "one thing leads to another" and we fuck several times a day, everyday...
And looks like we like the same kind of body on a gal, eh? Fit, trim, and perky breasts. I love fucking her in a semi-missionary position with her laying down and I'm on my knees because her firm stomach muscles are a real visual turn on...
SF99
RasSpewtin
08-11-08, 06:28
Just a short note to confirm that all white-skinned foreign types should avoid DMY, at least until the end of the Olympics. I visited there about a week ago, and it was very evident by the number of customers and girls that it was business as usual. My non-Caucasian friend was even asked if he had a particular choice of girl for his visit.
However, as soon as one of the captains saw me, we were immediately informed that there was no service other than massage available. I asked him why he couldn’t just admit that the policy had changed as soon as he noticed that I was an obvious foreigner, but it was really pointless to get him to fess up to the truth. This is the way things are in China, and as an obvious foreigner you either accept it or go nuts trying.
I suspect that they will ease up on this policy by September or so, and will provide an update here the next time I go there (which frankly is not that often). In the meantime there are other very good options, including the CA venues.
Raz
Meiguoguizi
08-11-08, 13:56
Partial to late morning moaning and the proximity of firm flesh while I sleep, I tried to negotiate 3am to late morning companionship from several of LHL's finest. My thoughts were that they would have little income at that time and would prefer an air conditioned kingsize bed to the communal hundun bowl.
I offered 400 for the 5 hours, and once or twice had to go to 600.
But everytime the 'Boss' was on the cellphone at 8am, once even sent another female staff member at 7:30am to knock on my door to collect the night's fee.
Despite each girl's desire to sleep, their fear/obediance to 'lao ban'r' motivated them to whimper and bail. Got to give these guys credit for management skills. Only once by taking out the cellphone battery, was I able to sustain a late morning marathon. And I felt guilty that likely she was in for disciplinary action.
Sitting in a second floor restaurant, I chatted with some of these 'managers'. Mostly Dongbei dudes in their late twenties and thirties, they were an amiable bunch. The one young thing I met with a back full of bruises had an 'auntie' instead of a male laoban. As usual, the Chinese women are the true enforcers.
Superforce99
08-12-08, 07:50
an excellent post by se asia joe who was actually re-posting some information from the japan board, but it definitely applies to china as well.
for those mongers out there who usually don't get good service or any service at all, then become a fussy asshole about it all, then begins a new vicious cycle.... please fucking read this post. it's a great primer on how to possibly change those circumstances and even make you into a better person...
*****************
"just a reminder that just because you're mongering in china, don't mean that you're entitled to act like a bsd.... the way i've witnessed some acting here.
fact is that i've seen some pretty atrocious behavior by foreign mongers in lots of localities i.e. thailand, philippines, vietnam, cambodia, indonesia etc but not in japan - why????!!!"
seaj quote:
[originally posted by azure knight:]
hi. you may all remember me as the guy who had a terrible call rate at tobita. "had" being the operative word here.
i went last night for the first time in a little while. my last time, i got to go with a true master - just watching him work the streets was an incredible lesson from the pros. i decided to try and emulate his tactics, see if i couldn't improve my call rates. and let me tell you, it worked wonderfully! there were, of course, girls who immediately looked away and were impossible, but forget them - i had about a 60-70% success ratio going. some of the mamasan would look away, or start to snicker, but a simple smile and "konban wa" was the perfect disarming tool, and once that happened i was just another potential customer.
i walked up the main street once slowly, just smiling and making eye contact, mentally marking girls i liked. i found two - an absolute stunner in one shop, and a girl wearing a nurse's outfit with a really cute smile in another. i came back down the street to get a better look at them both, then decided on the stunner. while the mamasan never called out to me, i simply walked up, smiled, and gave a konban wa. then the mamasan asked if i'd like to come in. from here, both she and the girl started to realize i could handle myself in japanese - but at this point i'd already gotten in with little more than a smile, eye contact, and a simple greeting.
the girl (forgot her name!) is, without question, the hottest woman i have ever experienced. if you don't mind fake tits, an absolute 10. i was a bit surprised to find that she offered the 15 minute, 11,000 yen course - most shops on the main street don't. i opted for 20 minutes, and boy was i glad that i did! i could tell the exact point at which she genuinely started to enjoy herself as well, and i'm pretty sure she got off too. she had a mirror at the head of the futon perfectly positioned for doggy, and in between looking down at her nice ass, and then looking in the mirror at the rest of her, i was in heaven! she worked hard to get me off within the time - after cleanup we talked some more. i'll defininitely be paying her a visit again soon!
as i left the shop, the mamasan was extremely friendly to me. even the new girl sitting out front, also a hottie, seemed interested in me. i started to make my way out of tobita, but i couldn't get the other girl out of my mind, the one in the nurse's outfit with the great smile. i actually doubled back (making sure to avoid the shop i'd just been in), but i found that the nurse girl wasn't quite as attractive as i'd remembered - i think having experienced near-perfection before this poor girl suffered in the process. oh well, that works better for my wallet. as i walked, many more mamasan were actively calling out to me. i greeted them, smiled, and gave them a friendly "next time".
i haven't done a whole lot of mongering in tokyo, so i'm not really familiar with the scene out there, but i think that if you know where to go, osaka can definintely compete. i'm content.
and on that note - the isg is certainly a wonderful resource, i know i wouldn't have found my favorite spots without it. and i know there are a lot of people reading who aren't necessarily posting. i'm not sure what went down at toukaen, but something apparently made them change their policy from "hey, all foreigners ok!" to "no foreigners allowed!" for us foreigners, mongering in japan is not a privilege. there are many things that japanese men can get away with and we can't. that's why we have to be at the top of our game. finding a place that we can actually go to means that either the tencho or girls are open-minded and ok with us, or some monger before you has paved the way. let's not ruin these resources for ourselves, those who came before us, and those who may come after us.
some basic, common sense stuff -
- always be polite and friendly. treat not only the girl, but other staff there as well, with respect.
- even if you feel the girl/shop ripped you off or gave you terrible service, don't get angry/belligerant there. pay them, leave, and then come back here and write a rep001hing report about it. vent to us, not them. your anger towards them won't make them think "man, i feel bad about shafting this guy!" instead, they'll think "of course, we shouldn't service foreigners here." remember, we're not awarded the same luxuries as the locals.
also, remember that when you play, you're not just playing with the girl you choose/was given to you, in essence you're playing with the whole shop. if you feel that her service is terrible and you start chewing her out for it, or you start making demands she doesn't really want to acquiese to, she's going to go back to her tencho and the other girls and tell them that foreigners make for terrible customers.
hits and misses are just a part of the industry. striking out with one girl may not mean the whole shop is bad, and striking out at one shop may not mean the entire area is bad; yet your behavior with one girl can influence your treatment at the whole shop, and your behavior at one shop can influence your treatment in the entire area. and not just for you - but for all of us as well.
- don't go anywhere in big groups of foreign guys. foreigners draw attention here in japan, and these businesses operate on the down-low. the police will look the other way a lot regarding this business, but if a shop starts to get showy, then they'll be forced to make moves. this goes double for foreign-to-foreign p2p. as my tencho friend yoshi explained to me, the cops attitude is "neither the girl or john are japanese; why are they doing this on japanese soil? go back to your own country and do that there!" even if you are by yourself, but you see the cops loitering around a place you want to go to, you may want to lay low and play it safe.
- learn some basic japanese. you don't need to be fluent, but just a few conversational phrases to help things along. good evening, how much, how long, thank you for the service, etc. it will go a long way.
its unfair in that i suspect many, if not most japanese customers, are guilty of many of the things above. rude, pushy, inconsiderate japanese guys get to have their behavior only affect them - while we're affected on the whole. however, we can actually turn this around to our favor. because the japanese guys can be so gruff, the girls and tencho may be more appreciative of a nice, polite customer - especially the girl. and that will translate into wonderful service and quirks. and open more doors to places that we couldn't go otherwise. the mongering industry in japan will treat you well if you treat it well first.
just my two cents. i figure most of the forum regulars know this already, so i hope that some of the lurkers read this and take it to heart. i want to report about nice new places i've found and not worry about whether some guy who found the place thanks to my report is going to ruin it for all of us.
agreed. those who act like animals pls stay in your dog house and not bring it here. i come from a small country and i get tired being tarred with the same brush or being compared to stereotypes of assholes from larger countries.
show respect. sw, bbs, sauna, ktv gals are service providers and good service begets high respect.
an excellent post by se asia joe who was actually re-posting some information from the japan board, but it definitely applies to china as well.
for those mongers out there who usually don't get good service or any service at all, then become a fussy asshole about it all, then begins a new vicious cycle.... please fucking read this post. it's a great primer on how to possibly change those circumstances and even make you into a better person...
*****************
"just a reminder that just because you're mongering in china, don't mean that you're entitled to act like a bsd.... the way i've witnessed some acting here.
fact is that i've seen some pretty atrocious behavior by foreign mongers in lots of localities i.e. thailand, philippines, vietnam, cambodia, indonesia etc but not in japan - why????!!!"
seaj quote:
[originally posted by azure knight:]
hi. you may all remember me as the guy who had a terrible call rate at tobita. "had" being the operative word here.
i went last night for the first time in a little while. my last time, i got to go with a true master - just watching him work the streets was an incredible lesson from the pros. i decided to try and emulate his tactics, see if i couldn't improve my call rates. and let me tell you, it worked wonderfully! there were, of course, girls who immediately looked away and were impossible, but forget them - i had about a 60-70% success ratio going. some of the mamasan would look away, or start to snicker, but a simple smile and "konban wa" was the perfect disarming tool, and once that happened i was just another potential customer.
i walked up the main street once slowly, just smiling and making eye contact, mentally marking girls i liked. i found two - an absolute stunner in one shop, and a girl wearing a nurse's outfit with a really cute smile in another. i came back down the street to get a better look at them both, then decided on the stunner. while the mamasan never called out to me, i simply walked up, smiled, and gave a konban wa. then the mamasan asked if i'd like to come in. from here, both she and the girl started to realize i could handle myself in japanese - but at this point i'd already gotten in with little more than a smile, eye contact, and a simple greeting.
the girl (forgot her name!) is, without question, the hottest woman i have ever experienced. if you don't mind fake tits, an absolute 10. i was a bit surprised to find that she offered the 15 minute, 11,000 yen course - most shops on the main street don't. i opted for 20 minutes, and boy was i glad that i did! i could tell the exact point at which she genuinely started to enjoy herself as well, and i'm pretty sure she got off too. she had a mirror at the head of the futon perfectly positioned for doggy, and in between looking down at her nice ass, and then looking in the mirror at the rest of her, i was in heaven! she worked hard to get me off within the time - after cleanup we talked some more. i'll defininitely be paying her a visit again soon!
as i left the shop, the mamasan was extremely friendly to me. even the new girl sitting out front, also a hottie, seemed interested in me. i started to make my way out of tobita, but i couldn't get the other girl out of my mind, the one in the nurse's outfit with the great smile. i actually doubled back (making sure to avoid the shop i'd just been in), but i found that the nurse girl wasn't quite as attractive as i'd remembered - i think having experienced near-perfection before this poor girl suffered in the process. oh well, that works better for my wallet. as i walked, many more mamasan were actively calling out to me. i greeted them, smiled, and gave them a friendly "next time".
i haven't done a whole lot of mongering in tokyo, so i'm not really familiar with the scene out there, but i think that if you know where to go, osaka can definintely compete. i'm content.
and on that note - the isg is certainly a wonderful resource, i know i wouldn't have found my favorite spots without it. and i know there are a lot of people reading who aren't necessarily posting. i'm not sure what went down at toukaen, but something apparently made them change their policy from "hey, all foreigners ok!" to "no foreigners allowed!" for us foreigners, mongering in japan is not a privilege. there are many things that japanese men can get away with and we can't. that's why we have to be at the top of our game. finding a place that we can actually go to means that either the tencho or girls are open-minded and ok with us, or some monger before you has paved the way. let's not ruin these resources for ourselves, those who came before us, and those who may come after us.
some basic, common sense stuff -
- always be polite and friendly. treat not only the girl, but other staff there as well, with respect.
- even if you feel the girl/shop ripped you off or gave you terrible service, don't get angry/belligerant there. pay them, leave, and then come back here and write a rep001hing report about it. vent to us, not them. your anger towards them won't make them think "man, i feel bad about shafting this guy!" instead, they'll think "of course, we shouldn't service foreigners here." remember, we're not awarded the same luxuries as the locals.
also, remember that when you play, you're not just playing with the girl you choose/was given to you, in essence you're playing with the whole shop. if you feel that her service is terrible and you start chewing her out for it, or you start making demands she doesn't really want to acquiese to, she's going to go back to her tencho and the other girls and tell them that foreigners make for terrible customers.
hits and misses are just a part of the industry. striking out with one girl may not mean the whole shop is bad, and striking out at one shop may not mean the entire area is bad; yet your behavior with one girl can influence your treatment at the whole shop, and your behavior at one shop can influence your treatment in the entire area. and not just for you - but for all of us as well.
- don't go anywhere in big groups of foreign guys. foreigners draw attention here in japan, and these businesses operate on the down-low. the police will look the other way a lot regarding this business, but if a shop starts to get showy, then they'll be forced to make moves. this goes double for foreign-to-foreign p2p. as my tencho friend yoshi explained to me, the cops attitude is "neither the girl or john are japanese; why are they doing this on japanese soil? go back to your own country and do that there!" even if you are by yourself, but you see the cops loitering around a place you want to go to, you may want to lay low and play it safe.
- learn some basic japanese. you don't need to be fluent, but just a few conversational phrases to help things along. good evening, how much, how long, thank you for the service, etc. it will go a long way.
its unfair in that i suspect many, if not most japanese customers, are guilty of many of the things above. rude, pushy, inconsiderate japanese guys get to have their behavior only affect them - while we're affected on the whole. however, we can actually turn this around to our favor. because the japanese guys can be so gruff, the girls and tencho may be more appreciative of a nice, polite customer - especially the girl. and that will translate into wonderful service and quirks. and open more doors to places that we couldn't go otherwise. the mongering industry in japan will treat you well if you treat it well first.
just my two cents. i figure most of the forum regulars know this already, so i hope that some of the lurkers read this and take it to heart. i want to report about nice new places i've found and not worry about whether some guy who found the place thanks to my report is going to ruin it for all of us.
SE Asia Joe
08-14-08, 07:21
An excellent post by SE Asia Joe who was actually re-posting some information from the Japan board, but it definitely applies to China as well.
For those mongers out there who usually don't get good service or any service at all, then become a fussy asshole about it all, then begins a new vicious cycle.... PLEASE fucking read this post. It's a great primer on how to possibly change those circumstances and even make you into a better person...
Agreed. Those who act like animals pls stay in your dog house and not bring it here. I come from a small country and I get tired being tarred with the same brush or being compared to stereotypes of assholes from larger countries.
Show respect. SW, BBS, Sauna, KTV gals are service providers and good service begets high respect.
Superforce:
Thanks for taking the trouble of reposting my original post in the China General Info thread and a bigger Thanks for agreeing with me and for reminding others that discrimination - of any form - is abhorent; especially when it is economic bigotry, which is what I perceive is the actual reason for the different attitudes shown in different countries.
In various boards - including the China one - there are threads on discrimination, with Western/Foreign punters complaining/feel indignity about how they feel discriminated against. On the Japan board, discrimination is practically revered by us same foreign punters - with even guides on proper behaviour when dealing with Service Providers like the one I quoted.
WHY/WHAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE????!! It's because FOREIGN mongers in Japan KNOW that they are definitely NOT Big Swinging Dicks - flushed with money that gals are so eager to get to because of the dire economic necessity in other mongering destinations. And yet.... whether it's a girl from Tokyo or one from Dongguan or Manila or Bangkok, they provide the same service.
Would appreciate it if you guys reading this will keep this in mind the next time you go out there. I'm not asking you to practically kiss ass as is required in Japan to get serviced - but at least to show the modicum of respect as you SHOULD show to another human being.
I know that I've also probably been guilty of acting like an asshole in the past just because I was dealing in the "Water Trade" in some locales - and this is most likely attributable to the so unfairly balanced equation there and the fact that these service providers - being so disadvantaged - had needed to "go down" as far as they could, just to get the deal done. As such, even I need this reminding myself.
Thank You
SEAJ
Good to hear from you SEAJ,
Thanks for posting the "rules". There're many cheap rude foreign assholes out there... Girls from all different countries say they hate the cheap bastards the most. It's service industry, OK? So be nice, understand that girls don't enjoy what they do, be gentle and most importantly show respect and you too will be treated well.
I usually pay SW and sometimes BBS girls extra 50 RMB tip before the session and this may explain better service. That said, I've been flamed one too many times here accused of driving the price up and recently asked not to post the "new" BBS joint as not to drive the price up. Yeah for stinkin 150 RMB... So much for ISG credo of helping each other.
Soon the foreign mongers may face more blatant "discrimination" which is norm in Japan and Korea. As SEAJ states, being nice makes the difference.
Cheers
Superforce:
Would appreciate it if you guys reading this will keep this in mind the next time you go out there. I'm not asking you to practically kiss ass as is required in Japan to get serviced - but at least to show the modicum of respect as you SHOULD show to another human being.
I know that I've also probably been guilty of acting like an asshole in the past just because I was dealing in the "Water Trade" in some locales - and this is most likely attributable to the so unfairly balanced equation there and the fact that these service providers - being so disadvantaged - had needed to "go down" as far as they could, just to get the deal done. As such, even I need this reminding myself.
Thank You
SEAJ
Found an intresting 13 min video clip. Says at the end there're 6 to 9 million sex workers in China. And yeah ganstas out on prowl...
http://shanghaiist.com/2008/01/02/chinas_booming.php
Clip from DG might be CP take out van girls? Clip from SZ might be Rio nightclub.
Takeaway is that it's all about RMB.
Uh we all ought to watch our back on the gangstas which control the industry. I got my taste 11 years ago in BJ when I was dumb enough to follow a girl for cheap massage/sex and ended up with 1,000 RMB bill for a room and a girls and some fruit. I tried to leave immediately and that's when 2 thugs came in. Good thing I only had 250 RMB which they took and charged my card 800 RMB which I disputed. Uh, they decided to be a nice guys and give me 20 RMB cab fare. Returned to my Great Walls Sheraton only to discover warning about not following touts on my desk. :)
Ouch,
Deported for fucking too many girls? Hmmm...
http://www.teachabroadchina.com/dating-and-sex-in-china/
Yep the downsides of freebies in China. My ex-colleague met a crazy ***** from love.com and she showered him with expensive gifts. Of course she was awesome in bed and yeah GFE max. He even met her family twice - MISTAKE. He kind a freaked out being happily married dude and when he tried to dump her, well, she demanded money for the gifts and "good times". When he refused, told him to watch his back 'cos it's easy and cheap to find hitmen.
As for me, I had my round of freebies and it all came with lots of baggages not to mention embarassment for the girl. Had a GF for 9 months 7 years ago. She was secretary at my 1st tier supplier. I made it clear I'm married with kids and she was OK with that. We were spotted couple of times in public and slept in my hotel room. She was more worried about her reputation for seeing married man... We separated when she found a nice local dude and she got married in few months. Also had couple of wackos freebies too. Funny as these wackos are realy good in bed but hey they're crazy and not the kind you want to dump and constantly watch your back.
Read on as it's suck to get deported...
Dating and Sex in China
Written by Robert Vance on May 25, 2008 – 10:16 pm
“Two American men were deported for sleeping with too many girls,” a foreign friend reported to me sometime ago. “They gave a number of girls hope about marriage and traveling to America and the girls willingly gave themselves to the guys.” My friend was a teacher in a small town in Central China were news always traveled fast. She explained that when the girls realized that they had been ‘used’, they complained to the local authorities who promptly arrested the men and sent them out of the country.
While such stories are relatively rare in China, there is little doubt that Chinese women are regularly taken advantage of by a handful of the thousands of foreigners who are living and working in China. Some foreigners arrive in China with the attitude that this country is a ‘playland’ and that taking advantage of Chinese women will have no consequences. Still, there many more foreigners in China who just happen to meet a nice girl that they are truly interested in. Thus, the million dollar question presents itself. Is it a good idea for foreigners to date Chinese women?
The simple answer to this question is ‘yes.’ But wait. don’t close this page quite yet. There are a few tips that you should have in your mind before you step into the Chinese dating scene.
* –Be honest with your girflfriend about your intentions. If you are only going to be living in China temporarily, make sure that she understand this. Do not lead her on by giving her false hope for the future. Doing this could cause trouble for you later on.
* –PDA (Public Display of Affection) is still highly frowned upon in many parts of China. Kissing and even holding hands in public is considered improper by the older generation.
* –Going to visit your girlfriend’s hometown is often seen as a serious step towards marriage in China. If you are invited to visit your girlfriends’ hometown during a holiday, be careful. Accepting the invitation may send the wrong message to her and her family.
* –In traditional culture, the fewer boyfriends that a girl has before marriage, the better. Ideally, a girl should marry her first boyfriend.
* –Having multiple girlfriends in China is never a good idea. As I wrote about earlier, acting ‘the playboy’ in China could have serious consquences on the status of your visa.
A quiet yet powerful sexual revolution seems to have been spreading through China since the turn of the millenium. Attitudes about sex before marriage are gradually changing amongst the younger generation. I wrote about this change a few months ago in an article entitled Sex and Hypocrisy - The Edison Chen Scandal. However, engaging in sexual activity with a Chinese girl is still not a wise decision for the following reasons:
* –If your girlfriend’s parents discover that you are involved sexually with their daughter, there may be ‘hell to pay.’ Chinese parents are often extremely protective over their ‘adult’ children and you could find yourself in serious legal and physical danger. I have heard stories about enraged parents who have taken matters into their own hands if they feel that their daughter’s honor has been somehow compromised.
* –If the local police happen to notice that a young lady is spending an inordinate amount of time at your apartment, they may suspect that she is a hired prostitute. I have heard stories of foreigners being deported on the basis of that very suspicion.
* –Impregnating a Chinese girl is a serious matter in China. Do not assume that because you are a foreigner that you will be able to just leave the girl and let her ‘fend for herself.’ Passports of foreigners who impregnated Chinese girls have been blocked before so don’t count on leaving the country.
* –For most girls in China, having sex is a sign of a serious relationship that is headed towards marriage. While there are always exceptions, most Chinese girls do not want to be simply used as a ‘plaything.’ Thus, engaging in sex should never be taken lightly.
Never forget that you are a guest in China. You are an unofficial representative of your country and every action that you take will be scrutinized by someone. It is also important to remember that Chinese girls, like any other girls around the world, have feelings. In a country where boy-girl relationships are not taken lightly, being given hope by a foreigner, used for ‘pleasure’, and then abandoned, could destroy a girl’s outlook on life. You also need to understand the concept of ‘family shame’ in China. Bringing shame upon a Chinese girl will also bring shame upon her family. In some areas of China, such shame could result in the girl being treated as an outcast in her family and village or even being subjected to physical abuse.
There is nothing inherently wrong with having a girlfriend in China. Such a relationship can you help you become better acclimated to the culture and learn more about your city. It can also be a good way for you to have a positive impact on a Chinese girl’s life. However, it may be a good idea to treat this relationship more as a friendship unless you are seriously considering marrying the young lady. Just be careful and think about the consequences of your actions not only for yourself but also for the Chinese girl and her family.
Superforce99
08-15-08, 10:01
I have to say that certain member of ISG (he can identify himself if he wishes) has been a real soldier lately...
Not only has he been exploring different saunas and massage joints based on my recommendations, but he continues to try out other ones even though he's been disappointed. I have to blame the less-than-great experiences on the Olympic crackdown, time of day (too early/too late), and just plain bad luck. But the important thing is to soldier on...
So far, as a Chinese-speaking foreigner, he hasn't had any denial of service problems at the saunas, so I guess it's a good sign and shows that the government is tolerating the ZH saunas and allowing them to operate as usual. HJ massage joints and private massages in your hotel room haven't been a problem, either.
But he also went to explore the local BBSs in Xin Xiangzhou district and found them all to be closed down...I couldn't believe it when I heard it because those were totally local BBSs that probably have seen less than 5 foreigners, ever (and I probably brought 4 of them there). I guess it's just a part of the general Olympic crackdown and the locals there have to make do with their wife, their hand, their dog, or going to some secret BBS location.
SF99
I really don't see such thing as "overpaying" for an experience like that. It's really what you can get away with. if you she wouldn't have gone with you unless you paid that much, then you are not overpaying. You may be perceived to be by her as a "sucker," if she's just inflating the market, but if you want a good, and it's only available for a certain price, and you really want it, then that's what you have to pay.
The next guy that comes around, will set his new bar. She will have to make the decision on whether she stays firm or not.
I think this scenario - a GFE weekend where you take her away somewhere is completely different than the average "ST" where you either pay 250 or 200 or 150... and you agree to always pay on the high end...
Honestly though, girls don't like stingy guys... might you guys get better service the less stingy you are? I think yes. But every girl is different... if it's just about the conquest and the lay without regard to the "experience" i.e. GFE vs. mechanical... then I guess it's like buying a cigarette... same difference, doesn't matter what kind you get.
But with girls it's a little different.. I've seen girls turn from hot to cold when you try to be stingy with them. In the end, for great service, I always give them a little more. I'm not the only guy...
Ask a girl who she prefers to be with and who she'd give better service to, and they categorize them by races, and most of the time, it's based on the level of "generosity" on some level.
Look, if you were a waiter, and someone was generous to you, you'd give them better service, no? it's just human nature... not to say you wouldn't provide your basic level of service, but that generosity creates that fondness... sorry, but true.
So I don't see this as "ruining" the market. IF the girl wants to eat, and nobody is willing to pay what Soulman paid, she will have to restructure her market. But so long as there is a market for the prices being offered, she will continue to demand it. Plain and simple.
As such, to each his own in my opinion. I don't want to bang the girl that my taxi driver bangs.... so while I could go to the Catacombs and get a 35 RMB girl, I'm not going to... it's not just about the price, but quality and experience.
For that same reason, I'd rather go get a KTV gal who's doing it once a day as opposed to a BBS girl who's doing it 3-4 times a day...
All differences of opinion, but I see the other side about staying firm on the market and letting the buyers rule the market... however like with all other things, when you have gems or things that are better quality, you're willing to pay more for it, which sounds like what Soulman got and went after.
Don't kid yourselves guys, there are plenty of rich chinese, hong kongnese, singaporeans, who keep girls in CP at the rate of 8000-15000 RMB per month, put them up in a place and have them to themselves... are they ruining the market? I don't think so because for every girl that is kept, there are 5 others to replace the void they left. There are way more girls than mongers in CP, so you'll always have the upper hand.
I think it just depends on the type of girl and honestly, TIMING.
just my two pennies.
-Jett
I understand there are “high end and low end places”, but OVER PAYING everywhere, then there is a problem. After this post, I am NOT going to reply back because this subject of overpaying has be talked about before. I am also guilty of overpaying but after getting to known the girls. I do feel sorry for these girls.
I am not talking about the local Chinese. I'm talking about the foreigners, especially white. If a foreigner go to a BBS and pays 500RMB ST, you are saying he is “NOT ruining the market”. Soulman, you paid 500RMB at Seibu. The normal price at BBS like Seibu is 150RMB. Another example is paying 80RMB for a handjob when knowing the price was 40RMB.
When somebody doesn’t even bother to negotiate the price and just pays what is being asked is “NOT ruining the market”, I don’t believe so. They will try to get as much as they can from the next foreigner because the other guy just paid it. If no foreigner is going to pay their ridiculous asking price, they are less likely to try it again. If you say one guy or few guys are not going to ruin the market. How many white monger are they?
These tourist monger who just come by once a while, overpays or don’t come back, they ruin the market. They think it’s cheap compared to back home in Europe, USA and Japan. Now the Japanese are known to over pay because they can afford it. They are known to spoil the markets everywhere. Yes, I guess you can call me a cheap mother fucker if you look at it the other way. You can also call about 5-7 other ISG members the same.
I can understand trying to get good service by telling her I will give a BIG tip for good service at the end. I have done this and recall reading a few others have done this too. In this way they should try harder. Humm, I think I should try this in Macau at the Lisboa basement. Too many stories of bad service there.
If I get bad service, I will pay the negotiated price ( no tip ) but I will also complain to your mommy. I suggest paying even for bad service but complain because you don't want a few guys waiting for you downstairs.
Just a note, I believe a lot of the KTV girls are former BBS girls. Most KTV girls have to pay a fee to get in especially the popular big KTV's.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=654039&postcount=1058
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=946&page=101&pp=15
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=654302&postcount=1071
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=653986&postcount=1057
Weelock, Weelock, Weelock...
Dude, I think you're too wrapped up in this "overpaying" mentality. It's free market, OK? Price for service rendered is often agreed up front by sellers(girls) and buyers (johns like us). It's diffferent story IF they try to stick you extra charges. Seen this happen at KTVs if it's first visit. Hey sometimes mongers get ripped off but it's rare.
As for "negotiating", my Mandarin is [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor and even it was good I don't care for cheap ass "kick" out of negotiating for few RMB off. I have and still negotiate multi-milion dollar contracts as part of my job and know when to push or fold, must have/would like and figuring out what the other side really wants (true net 30 wired or 50% downpayment, etc). That said negotiating over what is fair and openly acknowledged going rate price is different story. It's called CHEAP and yeah don't complain about lousy service. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY and when deal involved us humans, little touch of being nice and showing respect with monetary tip goes long way.
I often walk away from business deal or somtimes monger transaction if price is too high. Just happened on my last trip to Jiangmen. Noticed a cuti come to front desk to ask where the elevator was as I was checking in around midnight. I went to my room and took quick shower and went downstairs to exchange money to go to sauna. I saw the same girl as she exited from the elevator. She was sweating on her forehead and it must have been a real "quickie" and she didn't even bother to take shower. I offered her 400 RMB as not willing to pay more for say sloppy 2nd and went up to 500 RMB. This ***** initially thought I offered her 400 USD. LOL Anyway, she demanded 800 RMB and I walked away knowing I can get a decent fuck and massage for 600 RMB at the sauna.
Hey what kind of KTVs do you hang out at? 5-star KTV girls are former BBS girls? Now that's got to be funniest thing I've heard in ISG for a while. Uh, maybe grimy and dirty 3-star KTVs, maybe.
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Just a note, I believe a lot of the KTV girls are former BBS girls. Most KTV girls have to pay a fee to get in especially the popular ones.
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PS - Yep I'm the "guilty" one who paid 80RMB for a handjob in Seibu last year with "masta monger". I was charged another 40 RMB for fingering the girl's wet pussy. She did let me play with her hairy hole and rode my fingers literally in heat. Worth another 40 RMB, for sure. :)
Finally I hope you enjoyed reading my past posts. LOL
Yes Weelock,
Based on the many posts here from felllow mongers (Superforce99, Wapec, Jettsetter) in last couple of weeks concerning your asnine cheap statements you are what you say. It's cheap johns like you who gives "foreigners" bad name.
[QUOTE=Weelock]
Yes, I guess you can call me a cheap mother fucker if you look at it the other way. You can also call about 5-7 other ISG members the same.
Just a note, I believe a lot of the KTV girls are former BBS girls. Most KTV girls have to pay a fee to get in especially the popular ones.
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New subject. where do KTV girls come from?
If I had to guess, I would say at least 40%, maybe more are recruited from BBS. "Moody" should know since he is the KTV king of Southern China.
In Dongguan KTV most are word of mouth from other girls working in factories. Don't know the percentage but it's high.
A small percentage are tricked into believe they will be working at good jobs or to repay loans.
Hey what kind of KTVs do you hang out at? 5-star KTV girls are former BBS girls? Now that's got to be funniest thing I've heard in ISG for a while. Uh, maybe grimy and dirty 3-star KTVs, maybe.
Dude,
Moody happens to be my best ISG pal and we have been to 15+ KTVs together since 2004. We only go to 5-star KTVs but lowerd our standard for naked KTV in ChanAn with AG and Wadman 4 months ago. We had a ball at that naked KTV. :) We went to Goodview hotel KTV in Tangxia same weekend. We also went to Korean Chinese KTVs in SZ few times in last couple of years. I didn't connect with him on last trip as he was back in the states.
As for your question about where the KTV girls come from or leave - who the heck cares? Not BS anecdotal "I heard duh"... No worries as I doubt you hang out at 5-star KTVs. Besides, it's out of your price range.
By the way, I introduced few ISG members to KTVs for the 1st time including Raz back in 2003. I would like to invite many of ZH mongers to JiamgMen's brand new 5-star Gladden KTV in Oct. Room, drinks and food will be taken care of. No cheapskates please. :)
New subject. where do KTV girls come from?
If I had to guess, I would say at least 40%, maybe more are recruited from BBS. "Moody" should know since he is the KTV king of Southern China.
In Dongguan KTV most are word of mouth from other girls working in factories. Don't know the percentage but it's high.
A small percentage are tricked into believe they will be working at good jobs or to repay loans.
80% of the girls are gone, go home or stop working after 6-7 months. A Huge turnover.
I've been RTFFing for a while now, and have decided on making Zhuhai my initial trip to China. I love going to Macau, and decided since Zhuhai is close in proximity and after reading great posts from guys like JohnnyKon and SF99, I wanted to see for myself if Zhuhai was as good as it was made out to be.
I'm staying at the GD Regency, and have all my info booked, and planned. I'm going to be doing lots of Sauna visits, maybe sample a SW or two if I like, but really I'm looking for some KTV pals. All my buddies are married, and don't monger, so I've never even tried the KTV, but would love to try. I'm definitely not a cheapskate, and I'm ready to have fun. I don't really drink though, so don't know if that's a bummer when goin KTV. Love to party, and molest cute asian girls while I sing poorly to whatever crappy tunes they've got to offer. I like to drink, but find I can't get the job done after (if you guys know what I mean).
I've been mostly going to HK, Macau and Thailand, and really just came across ISG recently. Been posting lots on 141, so not sure if any of you guys are familiar with that site.
Happy mongering to all.
Joebanker01
08-17-08, 18:15
Soulman,
Do you have a list of the good 5-star KTVs in Zhu Hai? I'm planning on visiting Zhu Hai later this month and was looking for high-end KTVs similar to Mansion No. 8 in Beijing and Paradise in Shanghai. I'd like to see the best Zhu Hai has to offer.
If anyone is around the last week of August and would like to meet up for some KTV action, let me know!
Dude,
Moody happens to be my best ISG pal and we have been to 15+ KTVs together since 2004. We only go to 5-star KTVs but lowerd our standard for naked KTV in ChanAn with AG and Wadman 4 months ago. We had a ball at that naked KTV. :) We went to Goodview hotel KTV in Tangxia same weekend. We also went to Korean Chinese KTVs in SZ few times in last couple of years. I didn't connect with him on last trip as he was back in the states.
Superforce99
08-18-08, 14:48
Amazingly, the almighty DMY Sauna is closed for now. And from what I'm gathering from a few other mongers, all the major saunas mentioned here are closed: DMY, Jin Yu, Chang An Good World, Communications Hotel, etc. All the local saunas around where I live are closed, too. I guess saunas became a little too high profile for it's own good in Zhuhai? Maybe the Olympic Equestrian events in HK are having an effect? I have no idea...
Interestingly enough, only the Old Chang An sauna is still open...I guess that is a testament to the power of the guy(s) who own it. Also, the girls are not in uniform anymore either, and are in street clothes when they show up for a lineup, which ensures an easy escape for the girls out the back door if necessary.
There do seem to be more LHL girls (a few veterans but a lot of new girls as well) these past few days. But they kind of peak at about 5pm (about 20-25 patrolling LHL), reduce to a handful by 7-8pm, and virtually none about 10-11pm, and then back out mostly by about 2pm. It was a weird few days for me recently where I spent lots of time around/on LHL so I was able to see and compare times (but not partake), ha...
SF99
PS. It was great to meet Tightway and Eggsalad these past few weeks. In completely different ways, they are interesting, intelligent, speak Chinese, and are experienced mongers who are not "babies" or "retarded motherfuckers", so it was a pleasure giving them info, tips, and whatever was needed to have a good time in ZH. It'd be great to hook up with you guys in mongering spots you are more familiar with someday.
Superforce99
08-20-08, 07:28
As far as I can tell, all the saunas in ZH are closed until the end of the Olympics, including the last man standing, Old Chang An.
If anything changes, I hope someone updates. Plenty of LHL gals patrolling the streets, though.
SF99
PS. Tightway seems to find the most interesting/weird freebies in ZH, ha ha...but I'll let him explain if he so desires...but he is the king of unintentional freebies, I'll say that.
SF99
Thank you for the compliment. I had a great time sharing stories with you while visiting ZH. Although there was no action on LHL that night, your help with the Saunas more than made up for LHL. Don't forget, we have to hit Pattaya together next time I'm around. Can't wait to show you my favorite place like you did for me. For now, take care.
Egg
PS. It was great to meet Tightway and Eggsalad these past few weeks. In completely different ways, they are interesting, intelligent, speak Chinese, and are experienced mongers who are not "babies" or "retarded motherfuckers", so it was a pleasure giving them info, tips, and whatever was needed to have a good time in ZH. It'd be great to hook up with you guys in mongering spots you are more familiar with someday.
Johnny Chan
08-20-08, 11:14
As far as I can tell, all the saunas in ZH are closed until the end of the Olympics, including the last man standing, Old Chang An.
If anything changes, I hope someone updates. Plenty of LHL gals patrolling the streets, though.
SF99
PS. Tightway seems to find the most interesting/weird freebies in ZH, ha ha...but I'll let him explain if he so desires...but he is the king of unintentional freebies, I'll say that.
I was at Old Chang An last night and it was business as usual. Jin Yu, my first choice, was closed for "renovations" until around the 25th...
Superforce99
08-21-08, 08:54
Some info that might be useful:
You can buy foreign-made birth control pills (Marvelon, one month supply 18 RMB) off the shelf at any Watsons in the birth control/condoms section. Also available are foreign-made and Chinese emergency contraception pills, which are used to prevent pregnancy 24-72 hours after unprotected sex. Local versions of these things are available at any Chinese pharmacy as well, but just being able to pick it up off the shelf and read instructions in English may help make some people feel more comfortable.
SF99
Superforce99
08-21-08, 09:06
Exchange of the week, courtesy Tightway and I:
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Me: "Well, you can't look at freebie anal sex and complain, right?"
Tightway: "Yes, I guess you're right."
SF99
OldAsiaHand
08-22-08, 05:51
Gentlemen,
Another 3-4 pages flaming war on the above subject started from a row between Weelock and Soulman.
First of all, I have known both of these guys personally for a long time.
IMHO, we are dealing with very different personalities and sets of circumstances here.
Weelock spends a lot of time in China on a limited budget. Soulman comes in for short business trips with a huge expense account.
Soulman is prone to fall in love with a particular P4P girl and wants to make her his girlfriend. I remember lending a shoulder to him a few years back over one KTV girl from Houjie. I took him out in SZ to get laid in a typhoon.
Weelock is looking for a long term relationship with normal girls and mongers in the low end to fill in the gaps. 4,000 RMB for a weekend is something he would never dream of doing or could even afford to do very often. He considers it an absolute waste of money.
My personal opinion is that the 4,000 RMB is on the high side if you figure the KTV was a 2/5/8 place in JM. 2-3k + bus fare would have been more in line with my thinking.
That said, I do have issue with the attitude, "It's my money and I will spend it as I like". It does have some spill over effect on pricing in general, albeit not as much as many senior members may contend.
I also agree that generosity, in moderation, can result in better service. I believe that human kindness can also result in better service. And, I also believe that repeat business at market prices can result in better service. It is a combination of factors.
I saw Moody mentioned as a reference. I've also known Moody for quite some time. He is a high roller, but he never pays more than the market price for service.
I agree with the theory that overpaying too much is viewed as foolish by most service providers. Tipping an appropriate amount for exceptional service excepted.
As I have posted on another thread, "Why would you go to the market to buy fruit, pay more than the market price and tip the shopkeeper?" How many of you tip a waiter more than the 15-20% standard in the USA?
Just my POV.
OAH
Superforce99
08-22-08, 07:56
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My personal opinion is that the 4,000 RMB is on the high side if you figure the KTV was a 2/5/8 place in JM. 2-3k + bus fare would have been more in line with my thinking.
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As I have posted on another thread, "Why would you go to the market to buy fruit, pay more than the market price and tip the shopkeeper?" How many of you tip a waiter more than the 15-20% standard in the USA?
Just my POV.
OAH
A couple of things:
1) I think Soulman's KTV girl worked under a standard cost of 800 ST and 1200 LT.
2) We're not getting BJ's from fruit nor fucking fruit (well, at least I'm not...). But just like fruit, the shopkeeper will put the best looking fruit in a prominent position because it sells best, while discounting the bruised/misshaped fruit because someone will buy it. And then it gets all muddled because not everyone has access to buy certain fruit even if they wanted to because the shopkeeper doesn't want to sell or the fruit doesn't want to be bought...
3) A great waiter is different from a great p4p.....and a big difference is I think the majority of waiters EXPECT a tip, regardless of level of service (and that's if it's not already automatically tacked onto the bill) while a p4p will not necessarily have that attitude.
I think trying to reduce the p4p dynamic to fruit and waiters is a bit too simplistic. Mongers are people (some less than others...) and p4p gals are people. And people are always going to be that unknown variable in the "pay the going rate" equation that fucks everything up. Why? Because people have emotions and even though personalities have certain patterns, it's largely a crapshoot when two strangers meet and fuck. Especially strangers with different language, cultures, and education.
I don't think guys should overpay for SOP service or even better-than-average service, something like having a 300 RMB sauna gal and then tipping her 200 RMB or a 150 BBS gal and then giving her 100 RMB tip or a 1000 RMB KTV gal and then giving her 500 RMB extra in the morning...that kind of stuff is ridiculous.
But then if you spend an extended amount of time with a p4p, give her a generous tip and buy her a few gifts, it's what you would do for any girlfriend who rocked your world, right? Just like she gave you you extra-great sex, chatting sweet nothings with you, and spending time with you, it is what she would do for any boyfriend she liked. I feel that this type of service/experience is NOT a standard p4p experience and would deserve a non-standard p4p payment. It also gets taken out of the area of "standard p4p market rates" into that nebulous region known as "case by case basis price". Now am I crazy for thinking this way?
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OK, off my soapbox....it's high as fuck, I know...give me a second or two...
Now with some ZH information so this board doesn't become too fucked up like the other China threads...
From what I can gather, all of the saunas in ZH are closed until after the Olympics. The only unconfirmed sauna that may be open is the Old Chang An (I've had conflicting reports of it being open/closed from different friends but haven't confirmed myself).
While it is now a great time to make a private transaction with sauna girls on the street, bars, etc., also remember that many of them have left Zhuhai and gone home until after the Olympics. The typhoon hitting here today doesn't help matters either.
I have a few numbers of BBS/LHL/sauna gals for those interested but I can only give them to members I'm familiar with or others can vouch for since I've been burned in the past for freely giving away info.
SF99
OldAsiaHand
08-22-08, 11:28
I think trying to reduce the p4p dynamic to fruit and waiters is a bit too simplistic. Mongers are people (some less than others...) and p4p gals are people. And people are always going to be that unknown variable in the "pay the going rate" equation that fucks everything up. Why? Because people have emotions and even though personalities have certain patterns, it's largely a crapshoot when two strangers meet and fuck. Especially strangers with different language, cultures, and education.
I don't think guys should overpay for SOP service or even better-than-average service, something like having a 300 RMB sauna gal and then tipping her 200 RMB or a 150 BBS gal and then giving her 100 RMB tip or a 1000 RMB KTV gal and then giving her 500 RMB extra in the morning...that kind of stuff is ridiculous.
But then if you spend an extended amount of time with a p4p, give her a generous tip and buy her a few gifts, it's what you would do for any girlfriend who rocked your world, right? Just like she gave you you extra-great sex, chatting sweet nothings with you, and spending time with you, it is what she would do for any boyfriend she liked. I feel that this type of service/experience is NOT a standard p4p experience and would deserve a non-standard p4p payment. It also gets taken out of the area of "standard p4p market rates" into that nebulous region known as "case by case basis price". Now am I crazy for thinking this way?
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SF99:
I was not trying to equate P4P with buying fruit literally. Obviously, there is a human factor involved.
That said, many of us forget that it is still a commercial transaction and cannot be equated with a girlfriend. Yes, I would, and have, spent 4k RMB on a weekend with a freebie, but not payment for service provided. It includes the hotel, meals, drinks, entertainment, a small gift, etc. Just a couple of months ago, I took one freebie along with me on a business trip to Shanghai so I had to tag the airfare on, as well. I reckon I spent well over 4k RMB for 3 days. However, these freebies I have known for awhile not a KTV gal I met for the 1st or 2nd time.
IMHO, the biggest difference is that the freebie does not do this everyday and become hardened by the process. I have known too many P4P gals over the years to learn that they have their guards up. They hear so many stories and promises from punters. Many of these punters are using the sweet talk instead of their money thinking it will result in better service. Only a lucky few gals end up with a sugar daddy looking after them and even less a real long term relationship with a punter.
Also, IMHO, I do not believe for a second that P4P girls "like" you. Some of them are just better actresses than others and some provide better service; for commercial purposes. It is that simple most of the time. I've had great service from 100 RMB BBS girls and shitty service from high class escorts and vice versa. It is the luck of the draw the first time you meet them.
Just my POV.
OAH
As reported here ealier - the action is thin on the ground.
Jin Yu - I can confirm they are "renovating".
Old Chang An - Tuesday night, I was informed by the girl behind the podium that no rooms for overnight stays were available, but services were otherwise normal.
Chang An Good World - Services were available but I was asked to select a girl then take her to one of the hotel rooms upstairs. Weird thing, all the doors were off the hinges - I asked why and the manager told me that overnights were a no go in any ZH sauna. Nothing decent to pick from so I didn't stay.
Popoko - I was told there were no girls available.
Like Superforce, I spent a lot of time hanging around LHL over the last few days and can confirm the hordes of girls. Due to sauna limitations I actually tried 2 of them - which I'll report on later.
Old Chang An was still doing business as I had visited on Wednesday night. When I left this afternoon (Friday), the lights were still flashing and the girl behind the podium was still there despite the typhoon.
Meiguoguizi
08-22-08, 14:07
SF99:
I was not trying to equate P4P with buying fruit literally. Obviously, there is a human factor involved.
That said, many of us forget that it is still a commercial transaction and cannot be equated with a girlfriend. Yes, I would, and have, spent 4k RMB on a weekend with a freebie, but not payment for service provided. It includes the hotel, meals, drinks, entertainment, a small gift, etc. Just a couple of months ago, I took one freebie along with me on a business trip to Shanghai so I had to tag the airfare on, as well. I reckon I spent well over 4k RMB for 3 days. However, these freebies I have known for awhile not a KTV gal I met for the 1st or 2nd time.
IMHO, the biggest difference is that the freebie does not do this everyday and become hardened by the process. I have known too many P4P gals over the years to learn that they have their guards up. They hear so many stories and promises from punters. Many of these punters are using the sweet talk instead of their money thinking it will result in better service. Only a lucky few gals end up with a sugar daddy looking after them and even less a real long term relationship with a punter.
Also, IMHO, I do not believe for a second that P4P girls "like" you. Some of them are just better actresses than others and some provide better service; for commercial purposes. It is that simple most of the time. I've had great service from 100 RMB BBS girls and shitty service from high class escorts and vice versa. It is the luck of the draw the first time you meet them.
Just my POV.
OAH
For the benefit of providing some price comparison, and at the risk of being flamed, I frequently acquire an extended GFE by transporting a working girl whom I've patronized on early business trips to China to my current location (I work in different cities each year). Sometimes she's close enough to take a bus or train, Jilin to Dalian; sometimes it requires a plane, Dalian to Sanya. I do this in cities that are less than ideal mongering experiences (like Sanya and Dalian), and when my work keeps me too busy for late nights trolling and landing new game.
I've paid as much as 10,000 RMB plus airfare for a week. Or as little as 6000 including the trainfare for 5 days. Keep in mind these are top caliber, young and beautiful, working girls, who can often make this kind of money in a good week, though one has recently 'retired' to find a husband. Additionally, this entitles me to round the clock access and very specific services that they have become accustomed to. Obviously, I only select someone who has performed wonderfully on prior occasions. Additionally, I'm partial to sleeping closely with someone and to morning sex. My experience is that most young Chinese working girls have difficulty sleeping well while in the bed with a client. I also enjoy having someone to walk around town and have dinner with, watching her deal with the stares and disapproving looks is always entertaining.
Because I'm in China for months at a time, these 'visits' do not take up my whole trip, but are rather a break from locating new short-term talent. I've found that seeing a local girl several times is just not the same; she's usually looking to finish me and hang-out with her friends or add to her earnings by answering her cellphone. If she's 2000 miles from home in a new city, she doesn't have those distractions.
I found that a week is usually too long a period of time for me, by the last two days it's sometimes like having another nagging wife, though a young hot one. But for these girls who are making a long trip, the "yi wan" number is compelling. I'm careful to be clear that I have several 'good friends' in China to each visitor, but of course each would like to have a more 'frequent flyer' deal since they know I'm in China each year several times.
I've been told by several providors that they've had similar arrangement with other clients, often Koreans and Japanese and Taiwanese businessmen.
Well said Meiguoguizi. Indeed this is often what the other Asian men do including HK dudes and especially Japanese.
Jilin? I prefer the facial features of the taller DongBei girls but hard to find them in the south. Plenty of them in BJ along with Mongolian girls. Also in SHAGhai high end KTVs.
Dude, Sanya is full of working girls! Uh, except where I stayed in Holiday Inn Sanya far away from downtown. Had to bribe bellboy to bring me stable of girls for me and my buddy to choose from back in 2002. You should have seen their reactions when my buddy and I changed rooms while they took shower as I let him pick the best of the lineup. They called their pimp and all she can say was "mo mony". LOL We settled with our date of choice for 2 days though.
I think we need to distinguish "hired" GF and "1 shot" encounters. My preference is "hired" GF for companionship and to me it's reasonable when I consider how many hours they spend with me vs. say $150 RMB/hr at BBS. Fucking aside, it's pleasant to walk around with beautiful girl and amusing to see other dudes check out yout "hired" GF. Woman are different than man and they get more into sex if they feel comfortable and like you as a person. My "hired" GF will always remember me for taking her to Windows of the World, shopping at the new mall, walk/drive around SZ and ice skating all for the 1st time. It's refreshing for me to call her couple of times to hear that excitement and happiness whenever I call her.
For the benefit of providing some price comparison, and at the risk of being flamed, I frequently acquire an extended GFE by transporting a working girl whom I've patronized on early business trips to China to my current location (I work in different cities each year). Sometimes she's close enough to take a bus or train, Jilin to Dalian; sometimes it requires a plane, Dalian to Sanya. I do this in cities that are less than ideal mongering experiences (like Sanya and Dalian), and when my work keeps me too busy for late nights trolling and landing new game.
I've paid as much as 10,000 RMB plus airfare for a week. Or as little as 6000 including the trainfare for 5 days. Keep in mind these are top caliber, young and beautiful, working girls, who can often make this kind of money in a good week, though one has recently 'retired' to find a husband. Additionally, this entitles me to round the clock access and very specific services that they have become accustomed to. Obviously, I only select someone who has performed wonderfully on prior occasions. Additionally, I'm partial to sleeping closely with someone and to morning sex. My experience is that most young Chinese working girls have difficulty sleeping well while in the bed with a client. I also enjoy having someone to walk around town and have dinner with, watching her deal with the stares and disapproving looks is always entertaining.
Because I'm in China for months at a time, these 'visits' do not take up my whole trip, but are rather a break from locating new short-term talent. I've found that seeing a local girl several times is just not the same; she's usually looking to finish me and hang-out with her friends or add to her earnings by answering her cellphone. If she's 2000 miles from home in a new city, she doesn't have those distractions.
I found that a week is usually too long a period of time for me, by the last two days it's sometimes like having another nagging wife, though a young hot one. But for these girls who are making a long trip, the "yi wan" number is compelling. I'm careful to be clear that I have several 'good friends' in China to each visitor, but of course each would like to have a more 'frequent flyer' deal since they know I'm in China each year several times.
I've been told by several providors that they've had similar arrangement with other clients, often Koreans and Japanese and Taiwanese businessmen.
Hi OAH,
Sorry we didn't connect on my last trip. Hope you had a good vacation back in the states and your family is doing well. I finally met Santa. There were 4 of us and we all had a good time at BBS near Lowu after checking out Seibu on my last night in China.
I really appreciate you being there couple of times when I was feeling down with my other KTV GF back in summer of 2003. That's what friends are for.
I come to China 3 to 5 times per year on business for about 5 days. I also visit Korea, Taiwan and Malaysia whenever I come to China and must say China is hell of a bargain. It's amusing to see mainland working girls in Taiwan and Malaysia, and they ask 2 to 3 times the China rates. Korean girls are snotty and expensive.
You're right and I agree with your points. Working girls can get spoiled. That said I think it really comes down to supply and demand or classic price elasticity - Econ 101. Girls will lower price on slow days and will raise price on non-regulars and especially foreigners. That said, it's all money. Girls will try to get the most they can and johns the least which is fine for say BBS "SOP" sex. Many of us are used to tipping for good service and I often pay 50 RMB tip before the service with SW. Does it always result in better service, NO. But I think girl puts out little more 'effort cos of tip up front IMHO. I have and tend to pay above market.
OK gents, let's drop this subject and focus on mongering in the ZH area.
Cheers
I give up guys ..... you all are uncontrollable ..... Jez talk about not letting a dying man drift off in peace :D
For the sweet love of Christ and all that is holy and unholy in this World can we pls get back to the pussy hunting and stop the verbal menstration. We have enough to deal with with the Olympic drought. PUSSY PUSSY PUSSY big or small, tight or loose, wet or dry, hairy or smooth, young or old, ......... its called PUSSY.
Children, I'm off to sulk now and have a wank :(
Back now good wank by all standards. Bit of a bugger not having any tissue to wipe up with though !!! Asia Carerra & Kobe Tai you gals did me proud.
Children, I'm off to sulk now and have a wank :(
What a bummer to resort to wanking your monkey watching infamous porn stars in China... :)
Hey questions for all of you. Where's good place to find SWs? I picked couple of them in 2004 and forgot which street it was near some hotel. It was uh rather uneventful SOP actions.
Back now good wank by all standards. Bit of a bugger not having any tissue to wipe up with though !!! Asia Carerra & Kobe Tai you gals did me proud.
I managed 3 sauna visits during my 5 days in ZH - mostly due to the limitations on saunas at the moment. Well, let’s all hope it’s just for the moment.
All my visits were at Old Chang An. Unfortunately I can't recall much of the first visit, they all sort of blur into one memory for me. My second visit was with #129 from Shanxi. There no was no lineup - the manager assured me that she was good. She was cute, 7 in looks maybe, 5ft tall with a decent body. I thought what the hell and went with the manager’s recommendation. She didn’t disappoint. Usual thorough wash down in the shower, paying particular attention to the major areas. Both of us dried off and then onto the bed. She showed me the service card as per usual and being as I cannot read Chinese I just told her that I had seen it before. Nice cat bath without excessive spitting, which is always a big turn off for me. She managed to lick the whole of my back, arms and fingers – not just the usual quick 5 minutes of licking then turn over. Damn it she even spent a good few minutes rimming me – which is a first for me in ZH. Flipped over and she continued with her tongue examination of my body – marvelous. All the time I had great access to her tits and pussy – prepping her up for the main course. Her BBBJ was very very good, fantastic tongue flicking technique which forced me to ask to her pause and pay some attention to my balls. She asked if I wanted the red rope action, which I decided against this time around. Shag time and we started off with her on top. This is where she was a bit of a letdown. She mounted me and sort of just shook her hips a little without much rhythm; needless to say I motioned for her to switch positions. Again there was a little lack of movement on her part during mish so I just pounded her and enjoyed the view. Eventually finished with doggie which seemed to get some decent response from her.
Cleaned up and chilled out watching the Olympic repeats. I made a point of asking her number and she joked that all punters forget as soon as the girls exits the room. To be fair, in my case she was right. Saying that, I will definitely repeat with this girl.
Tuesday night and I find out that the no overnight rule has come into play throughout ZH. So there I am standing near the Old Chang An Hotel thinking what to do. A couple of girls approach me and I tell them I’m not interested – they weren’t great lookers. Then one girl that had forced me to take her number earlier in the day recognized me and asks why I haven’t called her. Her name was Wan Wan (I think), usually dresses in very short denim pants and a white t-shirt that’s always unbuttoned to show cleavage. She’s quite noticeable in the fact that her tits are always jutting out in a Lara Croft kinda way when she walks. She tells me the going rate, 200 rmb and points out that we can use Old Chang An hotel for the deed. I recalled reading on here that this was girl friendly hotel so I thought what the heck and said ok. Hotel was 200rmb, which I had talked them down to from 240rmb. It was blatant that I was with a working girl but the staff didn’t say a thing so yes this is a girl friendly joint.
The room was nice enough considering what I paid. Condoms next to the bed, snacks and a rotating advertisement thing on the shelf showing 3 massage offers. As I can’t read Chinese I don’t know if they were for in room services; I made out that 2 had the Chang An logo, one being 3 star and the other being 5 star. Wan Wan stripped off almost as soon as we got in the room and I followed suit. Showered, dried and jumped onto the bed. I told her that she was my first street pick up in ZH and that I usually hit saunas, she misunderstood and thought I wanted another girl and reached for her phone. Eventually she understood but it’s nice to know that it’s available. Very nice body, nice firm tits which I think were silicon jobs, slender body and a lovely butt. She gave me a partial cat bath, focusing mainly on sucking my nipples. A good enough blowjob, on par with most of my sauna visits. Some nice eye contact and good variations on area and sucking and licking. She reached for the condoms but I inform her that I have my own and I whip out one of my 003’s. On it went and then on she went. Man she was tight! Great humping technique and again some nice eye contact, so much so I was tempted to finish so I could see her face, but I’m a creature of habit and she had great ass… So my first SW in ZH was a hit, bargain at 200rmb in anybody’s book.
I stayed at the same place the next night but didn’t see much in way of girls that I liked so I popped into Chang An sauna. The manager lined up 3 girls that were no way up to standard, he tells me that’s all there is so I tell him I’m off. The muppet of a manager then asks me to wait a few minutes, so in comes a better line up. I take an ok looking girl from Guangxi, curly hair and slightly chubby. Decent session; this time with the shower bed which is always nice. Quite a routine performance from this girl although she did give me some AR and got quite heated up when I used the dildo on her. After we finished up I confirmed with her the whole thing about not being able to stay at saunas overnight. She told me that it had made business a bit slow for them.
On my way out I overheard the manager talking with a guest in Cantonese. It went something like, “Ok so I’ll be out of here before 12 noon” – “Good – don’t tell anyone”. It’s who you know I guess.
At the LHL bars again the next day and I notice the girls start parading around 1pm. Usual routine of one of the lookouts shouting out and all the girls diving for cover when the local enforcement are around. A lot of the times they sit next to me, although quite a few know my face now and won’t waste a sales pitch on me. One caught my eye though, tall girl with long hair. Goes by the name of Annie or something similar, great chest on her, always wearing blue jeans and a white top. Despite the good session with Wan Wan, the whole “great looks, shit service” thing is playing on my mind. Anyways, I get talking with a chap at the bar and it’s clearly evident that he’s been with a few on LHL. Annie walks past and he mentions that she’s good, doesn’t rush you and emphasizes her great body. 20 minutes later I’m in my room with Annie. Lovely face with big eyes, one or two acne spots which are covered by her slightly heavy makeup. She stripped off and all I could do was stare. Potentially the best tits I’ve seen on a Chinese chick – fuck it, any chick. Beautifully slim body with great legs and such a pert rear. Not much action pre blowjob but I wasn’t too fussed as I just wanted to sink into this girl. Blowjob was good, nice all over licking of my balls and surrounding areas. Something about the satisfaction of having a girl that you’ve been eyeing up all day naked and ready to be fucked is always a winner for me. I went straight for doggie this time, grabbing her lovely orbs as I pounded away and I didn’t stop till I was done. A definite repeater for me this one!
So the lack of sauna action has sort of helped me discover another produce section in ZH. Two sessions with SW’s in ZH and both good.
A quick hi to someone who I often drink with on LHL, you know who you are. Funny when you discover someone you know is a member here – it’s like finding an old school mate.
Good hunting all.
B888
If its ZH then its probably on Lian Hua Lu itself or up at the corner of the Guangdong Regency Hotel which is right at the top of the LHL intersection and almost directly opposite to New Chang An Hotel.
Less street oriented is the Bar Street (not the umbrella strip) where I imagine they slip in and out of the bars looking to hook a fish. Not being an drinker and not having the patience to wait when I am horny I am not familiar with that scene.
SF99 you have some more local spots to advise or comment on ?
Asia Carerra and I go back a long way. One of my more enduring female relationships :D
What a bummer to resort to wanking your monkey watching infamous porn stars in China... :)
Hey questions for all of you. Where's good place to find SWs? I picked couple of them in 2004 and forgot which street it was near some hotel. It was uh rather uneventful SOP actions.
B888
Nice post and well done. Sounds like you found your feet and had a ball!!! Good on you - its what its all about.
For future reference there is a ST hotel further down LHL beyond the McDonald's ice cream stand which is RmB 50. If you're at Old Chang An its a bit of a walk. May be worth trying on another trip. I've also done the Old Chang An ST and its not a bad place.
On the muppet manager. Yeah that goes on lots. After a while you kinda just get immune to it and keep asking for line ups after line ups. Sometimes I just ask for the want of being a major asshole when I take a particular dislike to a Manager. Although on the whole they are decent and just making a living. Its probably a bit sparse with the Olympics too.
Impressed you hit two for two on the SW scene. That's pretty good. Its been a bit more variable for me but I tip my hat to you. Maybe I can learn something :D This ole dog learns new tricks quick !!!
Thanks again for the post :)
\W
I managed 3 sauna visits during my 5 days in ZH - mostly due to the limitations on saunas at the moment. Well, let’s all hope it’s just for the moment.
The muppet of a manager then asks me to wait a few minutes, so in comes a better line up. .
So the lack of sauna action has sort of helped me discover another produce section in ZH. Two sessions with SW’s in ZH and both good.
Good hunting all.
B888
Superforce99
08-24-08, 05:46
B888,
Great report and good to hear some positive reports about the LHL girls. I personally haven't gone with an LHL girl in a long time now, but I used to only do LHL gals and had a 70/30 split of good experience/bad experience, but talking with other people who have gone with the gals in the last 6-8 months, rarely have they had a good fuck.
Also, I was up and down LHL yesterday and there are a lot of LHL girls now, and starting their patrol early as B888 said, as early as before lunchtime. I recogize a couple of the girls as long-time regulars, but I would estimate 20-25 girls that I have never seen even as recently as 1-1.5 months ago. Selection is the best in the late afternoon and early evening then kind of thins out between 8-12midnight then goes up again later at night.
SF99
Thank you for the nice feedback gents. My adventures in ZH are based on research from here so it is you chaps I must thank.
Yes, I’m quite happy that I found another route to pussy and count myself lucky that I got 2 good hits, however I am pretty sure that this ratio will change for the worse as I progress. Prior to my last visit I was just a wary spectator on LHL; now I know at least there’s decent action with the right girl. Thanks for the heads up on the ST hotel Wapec, I’ll keep it in mind for my next trip – always good to have alternatives.
SF99, you must have been around LHL the same times as me, must have walked past each a few times. Really need to sort out my subscription here so I can at least communicate with you guys. That’ll be done once I get to country where I don’t need to use a proxy.
2 weeks and counting and I’ll be back there.
B888
Superforce99
08-25-08, 08:58
I introduced another ISG member to the Santi pills (mostly referred to on the board as Chi-agra, a Viagra substitute made with herbs and other things) and he came up with some bad news regarding fake pills. It is kind of a bummer with so much fake shit in China, but keep in mind the following things:
1) I've personally used the pills for more than 1 year now with no side effects that I can tell
2) I've introduced the pills to over a dozen ISG members who have not reported any side effects
3) the news story centers on Singapore
4) I don't have diabetes nor do I take any related medication
5) the friend started researching news stories after finding out that the production serial numbers didn't match up (you can check them online at the Santi website)
Overall, I'm going to conclude that REAL Santi pills don't pose a problem, it's the fakes that do. But the more difficult thing is to determine which are fake. I guess next time, bring an internet-connected device to the shop and check out whether the stuff is real or not before buying.
the news story:
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"New 'deadly' sexual enhancement products have been found in Singaporean markets and can cause serious side effects on users.
The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) announced the presence of the illegal drugs, known as Power 1 Walnut, Santi bovine penis erecting capsule, Zhong Hua Niu Bian and fake Cialis, which have been discovered over the past 3 months. Santi bovine penis erecting capsule has been found to contain high amounts of glibenclamide, a potent drug used to treat diabetes. The tablets also contain sildenafil and tadalafil - potent western medicines used to treat erectile dysfunction. Zhong Hua Niu Bian also contains sildenafil and glibenclamide.
High consumption of the tablets can be potentially deadly as the glibenclamide in the capsules can lead to drastically reduced blood sugar levels which can lead to seizures, stroke, coma or death. Consuming half of a Power 1 Walnut capsule has led to unconsciousness and frothing at the mouth.
Consumption of Power 1 Walnut has led to the death of a middle age man last week who fell into a coma. Currently, one death and two cases of coma have been reported from the total of 89 hospitalised cases linked with the consumption of the illegal drugs. It has been revealed that patients obtained the drugs by purchasing them from illegal peddlers located in various parts of Singapore.
The HSA has advised people to stop consuming the drugs and to report on any cases of consumption to them."
SF99
Johnny Chan
08-27-08, 07:48
I was at Jin Yu sauna last night and can report that it is back in business. The lights outside are still off, and no girl at the podium, but services are available, and have been available since the 25th.
Another note, the coupon they hand out at the end of the session has changed. You now get one good for varying prices depending on time. Before 8pm - 198 rmb, Before midnight - 238 rmb, and after midnight - 268 rmb. This is compared to 60 rmb off of 300 for all hours before.
One more thing, their night shift girls start at 8pm, so I think the best time to go, for the best selection, is a few minutes past 8. The day shift girls are still there and plus you get "fresh" night girls as well.
Hey Johnny,
You seem to be quite Zhuhai sauna expert now, for JinYu at least. Must be all those visits there, haha.
I was at Jin Yu sauna last night and can report that it is back in business. The lights outside are still off, and no girl at the podium, but services are available, and have been available since the 25th.
Another note, the coupon they hand out at the end of the session has changed. You now get one good for varying prices depending on time. Before 8pm - 198 rmb, Before midnight - 238 rmb, and after midnight - 268 rmb. This is compared to 60 rmb off of 300 for all hours before.
One more thing, their night shift girls start at 8pm, so I think the best time to go, for the best selection, is a few minutes past 8. The day shift girls are still there and plus you get "fresh" night girls as well.
Johnny Chan
08-27-08, 14:07
haha... come to Zhuhai my friend, I'll even let you use my coupon!
Hey Johnny,
You seem to be quite Zhuhai sauna expert now, for JinYu at least. Must be all those visits there, haha.
"Overall, I'm going to conclude that REAL Santi pills don't pose a problem, it's the fakes that do. But the more difficult thing is to determine which are fake. I guess next time, bring an internet-connected device to the shop and check out whether the stuff is real or not before buying."
Shit happens as everyone does not react exactly the same to every known herbal combination known to mankind. A few years back I purchased Yohimbe at a chain store in the states (GNC). This was to enhance my Valentine date with my girlfriend at that time. Of course numerous articles have been written about it as a extremely popular substance. Well after taking one dose my heart rate felt like it stayed at between 160 to 200 bpm. When I attempted to get on top of her I felt my heart was about to explode out of my chest cavity. Needless to say I did not have an enjoyable Valentine. Obviously I never took that substance again.
Superforce99
08-28-08, 15:21
I got these pics from some buddy a while back. I guess it is from one of the high end saunas in Macau. Can anyone comment?
SF99
Fast Eddie 48
08-28-08, 16:59
I got these pics from some buddy a while back. I guess it is from one of the high end saunas in Macau. Can anyone comment?
SF99SF99,
I think you got this photo from a HK magazine.
The picture look nice.
A girl this hot must be from a sauna in Macau.
There are many girl like this at Sauna 18.
Fast eddie 48
I've been a long time lurker on these pages and I'm finally going to Zhuhai this November. I've seen lots of great reports on the "old" Chang An. When I check for Chang An hotels in Zhuhai I've found 5 (4 in Gong Bei).
Chang An Hotel ★★★ No. 196-200, Lianhua Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Chang An Good World Hotel ★★★ No. 327, Lianhua Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Zhuhai New Chang An Hotel ★★★ No. 1023, Jiuzhou Avenue, Zhuhai
Zhuhai Chang An Holiday Hotel ★★★★★ No.2130 Middle Yuehai Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai, Guangdong
ZhuHai Chang An Greataim Hotel ★★★ No. 1, Qiaoguang Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Which of these is the "old" Chang An? Thanks!
Panettone,
It is the first one on the list.
About a 10 minute walk from Gongbei Bus Station.
LianHua Lu at the North end of the umbrella stands, there is always a host of motorbike-cabbies and taxis waiting to pick up customers at ths intersection. You can also see a Agriculture Bank of China.
"Old" ChangAn Hotel is diagonally across the bank.
It is interesting this street corner turns into a row of 6-8 barbeque vendors after 10PM every night.
SF99, Johnnykon666 and Wapec added in previous reports ...
Do not use the main hotel entrance.
Enter the sauna on the side (behind the umbrella stands)
You might miss this 6 foot wide entrance if not for a bored looking girl (sometimes 2 girls) leaning behind a stand. It leads up-stairs.
Pannettone
“Old” Chang An hotel is the top one on your list – heres the url http://www.zhcahotel.com/changanen/index.asp . Take note that the sauna is not in the same building. If you’re standing at the corner where Chang An hotel is, head back up LHL where the umbrella bars are. The entrance is about 5 or 6 bars down on the left hand side; there’s usually a girl standing behind a wooden podium.
Good luck
B888
I've been a long time lurker on these pages and I'm finally going to Zhuhai this November. I've seen lots of great reports on the "old" Chang An. When I check for Chang An hotels in Zhuhai I've found 5 (4 in Gong Bei).
Chang An Hotel ★★★ No. 196-200, Lianhua Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Which of these is the "old" Chang An? Thanks!
Superforce99
08-29-08, 09:26
I've been a long time lurker on these pages and I'm finally going to Zhuhai this November. I've seen lots of great reports on the "old" Chang An. When I check for Chang An hotels in Zhuhai I've found 5 (4 in Gong Bei).
Chang An Hotel ★★★ No. 196-200, Lianhua Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Chang An Good World Hotel ★★★ No. 327, Lianhua Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Zhuhai New Chang An Hotel ★★★ No. 1023, Jiuzhou Avenue, Zhuhai
Zhuhai Chang An Holiday Hotel ★★★★★ No.2130 Middle Yuehai Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai, Guangdong
ZhuHai Chang An Greataim Hotel ★★★ No. 1, Qiaoguang Road, Gongbei, Zhuhai
Which of these is the "old" Chang An? Thanks!
Panettone,
The first hotel, it's easy to tell because it's located directly on LHL.
Fast Eddie: I didn't get them from any magazine.
Can anyone tell from the room/facilities if it is from a Macau sauna?
SF99
El Doktor and myself recently tried the Jin Yu and felt the overall service was just fair at best. Its like they drafted a bunch of SWs and told them to get to work. Overall for us it was not much more than a good BBBJ plus the ending. Definitely no detail protocol for services to be rendered. I'll go back only because of their discount coupon. Later I went over to the Chang An Good World and can report they are open also; but at 385. I have an old 50 rmb off coupon and will give them a go tomorrow. I had tried the old Chang An and found it to be much better. Of course it helped when the girl asked me if this was my first time and I stated I was a long term customer. She was a true 8 and then proceeded to show me the protocol list and asked which of these I liked and/or wanted extensive time with.
I was at Jin Yu sauna last night and can report that it is back in business. The lights outside are still off, and no girl at the podium, but services are available, and have been available since the 25th.
Another note, the coupon they hand out at the end of the session has changed. You now get one good for varying prices depending on time. Before 8pm - 198 rmb, Before midnight - 238 rmb, and after midnight - 268 rmb. This is compared to 60 rmb off of 300 for all hours before.
One more thing, their night shift girls start at 8pm, so I think the best time to go, for the best selection, is a few minutes past 8. The day shift girls are still there and plus you get "fresh" night girls as well.
Macauzhuhaiboy
08-31-08, 05:08
Apart from the sex massage centres, I luv dating those from 'clean' msaage parlours
Tried Milan Spa located at Milan Hotel
Tried this sweet babe and had a wonderful time with her
Badge No : 113
Origin : Szechuan
After only 1 foot massage with her, was able to invite her out for dinner, shopping, drinking, disco and later (u know what!)
No : 113 - damn girl-friendly feeling, damn sweet, please be nice to her
Pierre Lantenaq
09-01-08, 18:24
Hi All,
I need some help from you to spend the best time in Zhu Hai. I'm going there next week for 2 weeks. I have some questions for anyone who can help me.
I'm very much in BBBJ and CIM and I don't know if it's ok in China. Can you update me on this ? In BK, I spend every nights in Eden Club and it was. Great!
Is that possible to invite a girl in my hotel room whithout paying for 2?
Does the hotel waiters propose girls?
Where to go to have the best services?
Thank you for your help.
I promess, I'll make a report when I'm back.
Hi All,
I need some help from you to spend the best time in Zhu Hai. I'm going there next week for 2 weeks. I have some questions for anyone who can help me.
I'm very much in BBBJ and CIM and I don't know if it's ok in China. Can you update me on this ? In BK, I spend every nights in Eden Club and it was. Great!
Is that possible to invite a girl in my hotel room whithout paying for 2?
Does the hotel waiters propose girls?
Where to go to have the best services?
Thank you for your help.
I promess, I'll make a report when I'm back.Pierre,
There are a lot of information already posted on this thread. If you take the time to search and read you will find all of the information you requested. I tried to send you a private message but you are a non subscribing member. Many senior members like myself do not post telephone numbers address on public forum but may send you a private message if you are a subscribing member. No, we do not get a cut from the forum if you are wondering.
Many of us senior member resents freeloader on this board. Seeing that this is your first post and already putting your hand out does not present yourself well. The Zhu Hai forum has a wealth of information already on it.
Superforce99
09-03-08, 08:49
Hi All,
I need some help from you to spend the best time in Zhu Hai. I'm going there next week for 2 weeks. I have some questions for anyone who can help me.
I'm very much in BBBJ and CIM and I don't know if it's ok in China. Can you update me on this ? In BK, I spend every nights in Eden Club and it was. Great!
Is that possible to invite a girl in my hotel room whithout paying for 2?
Does the hotel waiters propose girls?
Where to go to have the best services?
Thank you for your help.
I promess, I'll make a report when I'm back.
1. It's common for sauna girls and LHL girls will give you a BBBJ and CIM, but ask for it specifically or you probably won't get it.
2. No hotels in Zhuhai will charge you for two people if you bring a girl into your room.
3. There is nothing like Eden Club in ZH....or should I say anywhere else in the world? But there are plenty of other p4p options, just read past reports.
SF99
Superforce99
09-03-08, 08:55
I was wondering how many guys out there think this type of body is a bit "thick" for their liking?
It's also interesting how the body shape for this girl looks kind of different with clothing and without...
I was wondering how many guys out there think this type of body is a bit "thick" for their liking?
It's also interesting how the body shape for this girl looks kind of different with clothing and without...
Thick???? Not in my books, Solid 9
ES
I think its just that the waistline is deceptive. First pics she is leaning to one side and gives the impression she has a more shapely hip area and slimmer waistline ie: hour glass. I'd still do her (respectfully asking) if available ?
I was wondering how many guys out there think this type of body is a bit "thick" for their liking?
It's also interesting how the body shape for this girl looks kind of different with clothing and without...
Macauzhuhaiboy
09-03-08, 15:12
[QUOTE=Superforce99]1. It's common for sauna girls and LHL girls will give you a BBBJ and CIM, but ask for it specifically or you probably won't get it.
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For clean massage, try Milan Spa
Chick No : 113 damn sweet, friendly & chatty
My Hongky even managed to date her after the 2nd massage session
Went drinking, singing, disco etc etc
Superforce99
09-04-08, 08:05
[QUOTE=Superforce99]1. It's common for sauna girls and LHL girls will give you a BBBJ and CIM, but ask for it specifically or you probably won't get it.
====================================
For clean massage, try Milan Spa
Chick No : 113 damn sweet, friendly & chatty
My Hongky even managed to date her after the 2nd massage session
Went drinking, singing, disco etc etcI'm not sure why you keep posting about this massage girl, especially since she isn't p4p and most likely would not appreciate random guys from ISG coming onto her because you posted information about how to find her...the whole thing is kind of fucked up, actually.
SF99
Macauzhuhaiboy
09-04-08, 15:55
I'm not sure why you keep posting about this massage girl, especially since she isn't p4p and most likely would not appreciate random guys from ISG coming onto her because you posted information about how to find her. The whole thing is kind of fucked up, actually.
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She's a value for $$$ massage.
How do you know she does not appreciate random guys from ISG coming to look for her?
Why do you say the whole thing is so fucked up?
My Hongky friend is trying to find more business for her so that she can earn more & it also benefit bros
So what's so fucked up about that?
The subtle point being made is that the this Forum thread is about sex, girls that are willing to open their legs or other orifices and relieve guys of their juices through a number of sexually oriented actions whether for pay or natural inclination.
Concern is that she may be put in a situation where the expectation is more than a value of $ massage. Suggestion and clarification is made to protect your friend, the girl and the ISG'er.
Please take the comment and feedback in that light. SF99 has everybody's best interests at heart and is being respectful.
Now mongers get out there find pussy and provide updates on conquests, locations and news about the feats of wonder with the fresh meat :)
\W
I'm not sure why you keep posting about this massage girl, especially since she isn't p4p and most likely would not appreciate random guys from ISG coming onto her because you posted information about how to find her. The whole thing is kind of fucked up, actually.
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She's a value for $$$ massage.
How do you know she does not appreciate random guys from ISG coming to look for her?
Why do you say the whole thing is so fucked up?
My Hongky friend is trying to find more business for her so that she can earn more & it also benefit bros
So what's so fucked up about that?
OldAsiaHand
09-05-08, 14:42
I was wondering how many guys out there think this type of body is a bit "thick" for their liking?
It's also interesting how the body shape for this girl looks kind of different with clothing and without...
I'm with Eaglestar. Very nice.
OAH
Here are some tidbits regarding my mongering experiences in LHL over the past few days.
First, regarding the Old Changan Hotel sauna, mentioned in previous reports, I was quoted 270 and 300 depending on type of room. It turns out there are also rooms for 220 on the 4th floor. Service is 90min regardless of room.
Second, regarding SWs, I find them to be nice enough, some will approach me and some won't, but speaking_Chinese generally helps. Standard deal, 200rmb, 45min,_one shot FS. I guess it includes BJ but I usually skip_that (personal preference). The girls I found are_generally honest, but, stupid me, I did get cheated_by one. I should have paid attention to several obvoius_warning signs, one was that I didn't get a particularly_friendly feeling from her, and the other is that she_insisted on 300rmb. I ignored the warning signs because_I was totally captivated by her body.
This girl is kind of short, although made up for it with high heels (most of them wear flat shoes because they walk so much). She has big tits, maybe considered a bit fat by Chinese standards, and has several tattoos (around the ankle, maybe back, etc.). And she doesn't smile.
Although we had agree on the price, she kept bringing up the question in order to waste time. Then, she wouldn't allow me to use a feminine wipe on her pussy (99% of them let me). With all the arguing, it took me a while to get hard, and when I finally was ready to enter, she magically got a phone call saying time was up. There was a big argument, and she called her laoban, and I grabbed the phone out of her hand to talk to the guy myself, but communication was difficult. She tried to grab the phone back, and it dropped, breaking into pieces (although she put it together and it was still working). She demanded the original 300, plus 100 for breaking her phone. So I gave her 400 to just get this thing over with.
Don't bother flaming me, I've already flamed myself. Best bet is to heed the above warning signs next time (i.e., only go with someone you feel is friendly, stick to the standard deal, and confirm it in advance). Even still, as you guys probably know, there is a certain risk that with SWs, you will have no one to complain to in case things go wrong. In any case, good luck to all.
Fast Eddie 48
09-08-08, 02:26
Here are some tidbits regarding my mongering experiences in LHL over the past few days.
First, regarding the Old Changan Hotel sauna, mentioned in previous reports, I was quoted 270 and 300 depending on type of room. It turns out there are also rooms for 220 on the 4th floor. Service is 90min regardless of room.
Second, regarding SWs, I find them to be nice enough, some will approach me and some won't, but speaking_Chinese generally helps. Standard deal, 200rmb, 45min,_one shot FS. I guess it includes BJ but I usually skip_that (personal preference). The girls I found are_generally honest, but, stupid me, I did get cheated_by one. I should have paid attention to several obvoius_warning signs, one was that I didn't get a particularly_friendly feeling from her, and the other is that she_insisted on 300rmb. I ignored the warning signs because_I was totally captivated by her body.
This girl is kind of short, although made up for it with high heels (most of them wear flat shoes because they walk so much). She has big tits, maybe considered a bit fat by Chinese standards, and has several tattoos (around the ankle, maybe back, etc.). And she doesn't smile.
Although we had agree on the price, she kept bringing up the question in order to waste time. Then, she wouldn't allow me to use a feminine wipe on her pussy (99% of them let me). With all the arguing, it took me a while to get hard, and when I finally was ready to enter, she magically got a phone call saying time was up. There was a big argument, and she called her laoban, and I grabbed the phone out of her hand to talk to the guy myself, but communication was difficult. She tried to grab the phone back, and it dropped, breaking into pieces (although she put it together and it was still working). She demanded the original 300, plus 100 for breaking her phone. So I gave her 400 to just get this thing over with.
Don't bother flaming me, I've already flamed myself. Best bet is to heed the above warning signs next time (i.e., only go with someone you feel is friendly, stick to the standard deal, and confirm it in advance). Even still, as you guys probably know, there is a certain risk that with SWs, you will have no one to complain to in case things go wrong. In any case, good luck to all.Night cat,
Sorry to hear about your bad experience LHL girl are a hit and miss most of the girl service are rush ,for the money is much better to go to the sauna in ZH don't waste time here on SW .
Fast eddie 48
to follow up what night cat said i myself haven't had a good lhl sw experience lately. i do notice very very few girls approach me now versus almost all would on my prior visits earlier in the year. i wonder if its because i caught a veteran tall girl with good size breasts (hangs around mcdonalds) peeking into my dresser drawer back a few months ago. i proceeded to take pictures of her naked; she probably was off balance after getting caught. i almost posted them but changed my mind. i'm sure she said some negative things about me to her mommie and the other sws. as for old chang an i get the 300 sauna room for 280 and of course some of the rooms have shower beds still. i've yet to use my 198 jin yu sauna discount as they've been closed on my last 3 visits. i was told each time they were about to reopen but haven't.
Meiguoguizi
09-08-08, 16:52
to follow up what night cat said i myself haven't had a good lhl sw experience lately. i do notice very very few girls approach me now versus almost all would on my prior visits earlier in the year. i wonder if its because i caught a veteran tall girl with good size breasts (hangs around mcdonalds) peeking into my dresser drawer back a few months ago. i proceeded to take pictures of her naked; she probably was off balance after getting caught. i almost posted them but changed my mind. i'm sure she said some negative things about me to her mommie and the other sws. as for old chang an i get the 300 sauna room for 280 and of course some of the rooms have shower beds still. i've yet to use my 198 jin yu sauna discount as they've been closed on my last 3 visits. i was told each time they were about to reopen but haven't.
last month during 5 days in zhuhai, i chose 5 or 6 (or 7?) lhl strollers, 2 favorites multiple times. i am partial to young and cute, so performance is frequently a problem. but i was pleasantly surprised. everyone provided bbbj without complaint. the usual whining about the didi size, but multiple positions never a problem. time is an issue, but for 200rmb how can you complain? 400 will get you two hours. as i mentioned in an earlier post, overnight is a hassle and expensive by zhuhai standards.
my friend who travelled with me doesn't speak any mandarin and is, well, rather large. he had difficulty upon occasion getting bbbj, but it may have been a communication issue.
i was in the chang an holiday hotel (overpriced and too far from lhl and under renovation). the lhl ladies were happy to meet me at the room at a specified time, which keeps the clock watching accurate and spares the lobby stroll and cab ride.
stay at the nice hotel at the end of lhl and you can do 5 genuine young cuties a day for 1000.
the girls do chat. and their bosses chat. so if you are a laowai and get a bad rep, your selection options will be severly limited. on the other hand, if you tip the first one you pick, you will be routinely approached at the umbrella bars since 'laowai' are easy to 'tag'.
Presently in Zhuhai having arrived last night. LHL seemed pretty quiet for a Friday night, not many punters out and fewer WG’s than my last visit.
I popped into Old Chang An after my beer session, the girls at the podium told me there were no rooms whatsoever. No idea if they were genuinely that busy or if it was some sort of crackdown. Ah well, off to Jing Yu which had been reported as back in business. It seemed pretty busy when I walked in but there were rooms available. The girl that led me to my room asked me if I was staying overnight so it appears the ban on overnights is now over – for this place at least. On the way to the room I passed what must’ve have been where the girls all doll up and hang around. I sneaked a look and saw about 20 or so girls- all non uniformed and as ABCinLa had reported, they looked like SW’s doing temp work. I’m pretty certain this is a new batch of girls, good or bad thing I don’t know. First lineup was ok I guess; all in wearing casual clothes. No greeting whatsoever from the girls and it didn’t look like the manager was expecting it from them either. As it had been a couple of weeks since my last sauna visit I wanted a decent session so I told the manager to usher the girls away. I then informed the manager that I was a regular and wanted a good session on this return visit. He brought in a girl from Hunan who was a 6, not overly pretty but I was informed she was good. The only reason I went with her was that she was grinning from ear to ear and seemed very bubbly. 128 was her number, not the greatest in terms of body with not much happening on the tit side. She was very attentive throughout the whole session, helping me undress and helping me dress after the deed. Thorough wash in shower accompanied with 5 mins of BJ which I’ve rarely had here in ZH. She dried me off then proceeded to take a quick shower herself. Very thorough and stimulating cat bath, including a tongue probe of my ears. In terms of the blow job, it was passable – but she gave some decent AR which made up for things. Maybe it was because I hadn’t dipped my wick in a while but I thoroughly enjoyed the main course. We chatted for a while when we were done then hit the shower for the post shag rinse down. Again this was thorough and I mentioned before she helped me dry off and dress.
Saturday; throughout the day the ladies were out in full force again. In one hour, I saw at least 25 individual girls patrolling. I would say there are about 5 that I hadn’t seen before and a few usual suspects were no longer there. I have noticed that there are 2 girls who I swear must be twins or at the very least sisters. Short girls, with short hair and ample chests for their heights. I didn’t see them actively approaching punters together so I am not sure if that specialty is on offer.
It was pretty late when I left the bar on LHL on Saturday so I had my first night in ZH with no shag. , first time for everything I guess. There were plenty of girls around still but I am always hesitant to take the last chicken in the shop – pun intended.
Hovered around LHL again on Sunday. Bumped into a pair of newbies who were looking for action here but somehow I don’t think they wanted to take my advice. They sat next to me at the bar and as soon as it was obvious they wanted some lady fun, swarms of SW’s gathered shoving their numbers into the guys hands. Funny as I overheard the girls quote prices from 200 (the going rate) to 300, I even heard one say she was overnight only. Well I hope they got what they were after.
Took a room at Old Chang An hotel again and called up Annie who I had did on my previous visit here. I wanted to see if the sequel was as good as the initial session. She had me approached a few times throughout the day, hugging me and rubbing me up. Thanks love, make it obvious to all and sundry that I’m a punter!
She knocked on the door 10 minutes after I called her and started stripping straight away. Showered together but it was more of a rinse than anything thorough. Started to dry off and she immediately dropped to her knees to started to blow me – superb. Knee trembling time so I told her stop – I doubt she would have stopped unless I had asked her to! Bit more blowing on the bed then on came the condom. I mentioned her great chest in my last report and was looking forward to a nice eyeful and grope. Maybe I had built her up a bit too much in my head but her tits did not seem as great, don’t get me wrong they were still top drawer knockers but not as great as I had previously made out. She mounted me initially and started humping very fast and making crappy moaning noises. Flipped her over for the finish and again she was making the noises – although she was great at humping back. All in all I felt this time it was quite rushed and definitely not as good as the first session I had with her. Do take note it was 4am though – so the rushed feeling may have been due to her tiredness. Nonetheless I will repeat with her.
Monday evening and again Old Chang An sauna is full or that was what I was told by the girl outside. Slightly disappointed I wander over to Jin Yu for a repeat with #128. I’m shown to my room and the manageress brings in what seems to be the entire posse of girls available. This time there was the customary bowing and greeting – all initiated by the manageress. I’m told that #128 was busy so I choose a cute looking girl, #63 from Hubei. Essentially the session was a carbon copy of my session with #128 which leads me to think that there is some quality control at play here despite the change of staff. I had a decent chat with this girl trying to find out if everyone here was new – unfortunately she had only been in ZH for 2 weeks and didn’t know much.
Slept over at Jin Yu and presently typing up this report drinking coffee LHL. 2pm and I haven’t seen one SW’s yet. .
Spent some more time on LHL and there seems t o be a lot of LE presence. I’ve noticed a few vans go past with a handful of girls inside and the motorbike patrols are very frequent. Someone pointed out that there are undercover police here too – still I have to hand it to the girls for their persistence. I saw Annie run down LHL – this girl should’ve competed at the Olympics. I noticed a few new girls too with varying degrees of attractiveness.
I didn’t bother trying Old Chang An again and headed straight for Jin Yu this time. I had either #128 or #63 in mind but neither were available, so again I resorted to asking the managers recommendation. In comes #23, now I wouldn’t usually opt for this type of girl. She was early 30’s I’d say, not greatest of lookers – maybe a 5 and slightly plump. Variety is the spice of life they say. Ah what the heck I said yes. Routine was again a mirror image of my last two sessions, inclusive of the in shower BJ. Her body was a slight turn off for me, but I guess it’s relative to what I’ve had here. She spoke decent Cantonese which is always a bonus for me; she told me she’d been at Jin Yu for half a year. So I’m guessing not all the girls here are new. As a veteran I expected her to give a good BJ and fuck me did she – it was pretty high up there in my book. Lots of slurping and tongue action, including a good 10 minutes exploring my arsehole with her tongue. The oral action pre empted an early finish for me, so the shag was rather quick but she’s worth it just for the blowjob. Clearly this was a case of experience being a major factor. Pending my mood I will repeat with her, I have her number so I may be tempted to do an outside of work session.
I may follow up with additional reports depending on the length of my stay here.
B888
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Macauzhuhaiboy
09-13-08, 04:35
[QUOTE=Banana888]Presently in Zhuhai Slept over at Jin Yu and presently typing up this report drinking coffee LHL. 2pm and I haven’t seen one SW’s yet. .
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U may want a good healthy foor and body massage
Can try Milan Spa (3 or 4 level of Milan Hotel)
Tag : 113
Feedback : Pretty + good skills + damn friendly
OldAsiaHand
09-13-08, 05:07
So I gave her 400 to just get this thing over with.
Night Cat,
IMHO, the LHL girls are not very laowai friendly and the ones that do go with us, think we should pay more.
I had a very similiar experience with a LHL girl in the past which I posted before. I made the mistake of not discussing the price in advance thinking that it was 200RMB standard for ST After the deed, she told me that all laowai give her 400 RMB ST and refused to leave my room. I had to call a friend over and threaten to call the hotel security. Finally, she agreed to leave with 10 RMB more and stormed out of the room. I think she thought that even with 10RMB, she did get more and did not want to push her luck with hotel security. It was a very unpleasant experience. And, on top of it all, her service sucked.
Frankly, most of my Zhuhai experiennces, albeit rather limited, have not been that great. I get the feeling that the P4P industry as a whole is not that foreigner friendly. I was turned down service after one line-up in DMY one time and the other sauna experiences I've had were mediocre at best. The other LHL girls I've done were all below average service and in a hurry. And, the one BBS girl I wanted to do, rejected me.
Just my POV.
OAH
RCA Knight
09-14-08, 08:04
The level of LHL street workers has gone down a lot recently. A few years back, it was easy to find super stunners with good attitude, but these days its getting hard. But still there are quite a few semi cuties, but atitude wise is hit or miss, more misses now.
Jin Yu is the best bet, a previous poster was wondering if there is a certain set of compulsory service, yes, they have. I talked to a girl there before, she said all girls have to follow a set of standard services. If they fail to do and receive customer complain, they get bonuses deducted.
Macauzhuhaiboy
09-15-08, 14:53
The level of LHL street workers has gone down a lot recently. A few years back, it was easy to find super stunners with good attitude, but these days its getting hard.With the easing of visa travels, the LHL chicks are travelling - Macau, HK, Singapore, Penang, KL, Jakarta, and even NZ and Aussie
Some even went to Maldives!
Old Chang An seems to be extremely busy at the moment; I’ve yet to have a session there. Damn shame as I would like a repeat with at least one of my past girls from there.
My ISG friend invited me to a club called Yesterday on Mid Autumn festival day. Only 2 non Chinese there, both of whom were with me but everyone in there seemed friendly enough. The place played a combination of upbeat RnB, Chinese and the odd live performance. Some super sexy looking dancing girls there which made for some nice eye candy. I was told by my friend that there were many freelancers there, but as I was with company I was not approached. The freelance scene is not my cup of tea but might be worth a visit for those who are.
The same evening we hit Chang An again with no luck; we were inform that there was a wait of 40 minutes or so. I might have waited but my friend wanted a quick session before he went home. So it was back to old faithful – Jin Yu. The same manager was on duty and I tried to ensure my friend was looked after before my line up came. I picked #18 from the second line up. Cute looking girl from Guangxi with nothing in the way of a chest – bee stings if anything. Performance wise she was a disappointment. Too much teeth during the oral and generally a rushed session – not a repeater. My friend said he had fun despite the fact he was somewhat inebriated so that was cool.
Tried a place that was recommended to me which about a 10 minute taxi ride away from LHL. The name has 2000 in it – unfortunately I cannot read Chinese so can’t make out the rest. I was told that this place had 2 levels of girls and was favored by one of my friend’s bosses – I wanted to try it just for some variance. Unfortunately the girl at the reception informed me that the sauna services were off and only massage was available; 298 RMB for a 90min session. I didn’t want to risk having a non full service session so I left. Headed back to LHL for a beer or two, my friend was back at our favorite bar area and we sat around commenting on the SW’s. Lots of new talent around with several being well endowed up top although there’s a couple that barely look legal so be warned. Later on I walked past Old Chang An, no girl at the front and the flashing lights were off. Walked around to Popoko and was told that all the girls had gone home for the Mid Autumn festival. Back to Jin Yu AGAIN. The manageress recognized me and told me straight away that #128 was back so I nodded, winked and headed to a room. I’m somewhat chuffed that the manageress now knows me and knows which girls I tend to like. It goes without saying that is so far this is my favorite sauna. The session with #128 was essentially a repeat of my previous visit with her although the oral part seemed a bit rushed. After the action, we chatted for about 10 minutes then she showered, dressed, pecked me on the cheek and left. I got one of the attendants to order me some take out, ate then slept.
B888
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[QUOTE=Banana888]Presently in Zhuhai Slept over at Jin Yu and presently typing up this report drinking coffee LHL. 2pm and I haven’t seen one SW’s yet.
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U may want a good healthy foor and body massage
Can try Milan Spa (3 or 4 level of Milan Hotel)
Tag : 113
Feedback : Pretty + good skills + damn friendlyOnly really interested in girls that are guaranteed to open their legs for a set amount of cash.
I can see some movement into the right direction. When i crossed the border to Zhuhai yesterday, they had removed the lines leading to customs control. It is no longer necessary to put every handbag into the x-ray. No streetwalkers on LHL though. Lets hope that other relaxations follow soon.
Still quite a heavy LE presence on LHL – the night of the 18th in particular was bad. Since then the girl patrols have been sporadic although the last few nights there seem to be more girls and more frequent patrols. Last night I noticed a few more new faces amongst the girls.
Been to Jin Yu a couple of times since my last post so things do seem normal there, aside from the night of the 18th when I had to wait till after midnight for some action.
B888
Importculture
09-25-08, 13:14
Hi guys,
It looks like the major saunas are still not in business.
Popoko and Minghao are still closed.
Any idea when it will be reopened.
Tomdickharry
09-26-08, 02:52
Jameschong,
What do you expect?
SE Asia Joe
09-26-08, 04:25
I am from Singapore
I can be considered a Zhuhai sifu as I have been there more than 5 times liao! .......................
We Singaporeans are educated, well mannered, caring, speak English, very gentleman unlike the Taiwanese or HongKong men! ..........
Sorry.... but I really can't help it.....
A Zhuhai Sifu??? Been there more than 5 times........??
I've (and many others here) been to Zhuhai God knows how many more times than you and I consider myself very much a novice and wud ask for companionship and directions from the true Sifu's of Zhuhai like Superforce et al. Five times huh???
And what's this ..... us Hong Kongers - and Taiwanese - are all un-educated, bad mannered, don't speak English .... and NOT gentlemen??
You got some nerve..... and deserve whatever you got.
Why dontcha just concentrate on Kiasu-ing my ass back in La-La land - where boorish - and egostitical and stupid behaviour as yours is probably more acceptable?
Sorry guys - cain't help it, really cain't help it - but this guy's paintin' just too many with too broad a brush - including our wonderful sisters who's got more sense, wile and smarts than Mr. James!!
SEAJ
That's what happens when you become emotionally involved with "working girls", you learn that their priority is making money. They have learned from past experiences that you guys will not really take them as wives or girlfriends. You only want her for a short time rental.
You want her to love you, but then you will dump her. She's a poorly educated girl and she has very little chance of you taking her to Singapore to be your wife.
So why shouldn't she use you if she can and take what you give?
She is not heartless, she is just doing what she thinks is necessary to survive and make a few bucks.
It seems that Singapore guys often have an inflated opinion of themselves. Don't worry about it too much though, you will learn that we all shit and die just the same.
I am from Singapore
When in Zhuhai, she told me Singaporeans are the best!
I regretted buying her the handphone (more than $300! )
So be cheated by Zhuhai girls! They are heartless!
SE Asia Joe
09-26-08, 08:35
It seems that Singapore guys often have an inflated opinion of themselves. .
Actually..... I know lots of Singapore guys who are good guys - its only this 1 post wonder James Chong who doth thinks too much of himself.
Like I said - Kiasu my ass James!
SEAJ
So James Chong,
After being flamed in ********Forum you came here posting the exact same post. What the hell do you want?
You want us not to go to Zhuhai because you got stuffed there?
You can keep your sifu or whatever title. The fact that you got stuffed there shows that you are a pidly newbie. So go to your corner and cry!
Actually..... I know lots of Singapore guys who are good guys - its only this 1 post wonder James Chong who doth thinks too much of himself.
Like I said - Kiasu my ass James!
SEAJ
I know the world, I have been to cinema.
Joe, doesn't it ring a bell that recently so many posters with several posts write so much rubbish in several asian threads? Just don't react or you may feed the trolls again. I was tempted to answer when I read it this morning but then decided not to.
Siu ah lah JC
Please grow up and mature a little. Singapore is a fine place and you guys have done well. But its just a country like any other no better or worse.
Go get pussy and keep a stack of Nokia's. Jez ..... wet one just off the boat ! Sling 'em back the sprat.
\W ;)
And what's this? Us Hong Kongers - and Taiwanese - are all un-educated, bad mannered, don't speak English, and NOT gentlemen?
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The Zhuhai grils think this:
Taiwanese are rough and calculative.
HongKonger are showoff and petty.
Malaysians are stingy and bastard.
Macaunese are poor yet demanding.
Singaporeans are the best as we do not have these poor qualities.
The Zhuhai girls think highly of Singaporeans, esp property consultants, as we splash them with gifts inclduing brand new Nokia
She told you what you wanted to hear, "that you Singaporean guys are the best!" and then she used the phone to call the other guy!
Dude, they are hookers. She flatters you and fucks you for money! Don't expect fidelity and loyalty from a streetwalker.
I don't know about the other guys here, but I will confess to being a little bit biased against the Singapore guys. I read that racist shit some of them wrote on the ******** forum. It caused me to think they are arrogant showoffs.
I think there might have been a misunderstanding regarding your earlier post. I think your intention was to tell us that the girl said "Hongkongers and Taiwanese are not as good as Singapore guys", but that was not your own opinion. Correct?
Anyway JamesChong, I'm not trying to flame you here, just saying that if you throw lots of cash and gifts at these hookers they will of course call you "the best", but they will do the same to any guy with deep pockets. As soon as your pocket is empty she will run to the next guy.
Of course I don't expect her to return me the handphone!
But I expect her to be faithful to me because I gave her the handphone Ia brand new Nokia ok!)
We Singaporeans are very loyal and faithful and we expext the same standard
From the way you talk, you sound like some showoff Hongkonger, Howlian Taiwanese or some cheapskate Malaysian
Worse of all, you sound anti-Singaporean!
Fast Eddie 48
09-26-08, 17:40
Still quite a heavy LE presence on LHL – the night of the 18th in particular was bad. Since then the girl patrols have been sporadic although the last few nights there seem to be more girls and more frequent patrols. Last night I noticed a few more new faces amongst the girls.
Been to Jin Yu a couple of times since my last post so things do seem normal there, aside from the night of the 18th when I had to wait till after midnight for some action.
B888to B888,
I was in Zhu hai on the 18th and I saw a girl with attiude got pepper spray and put in the partol wagon and 2 hr later she was on the st again ,actions is bad in Zhu hai right now most of my favorite sauna is not offer full service right now .
Ming hao is offering service raise the price to 338 rmb but cut back on their service and quality is poor ,I was told by dai ming yuan they will be back in business by end of the month.
Fast eddie 48
Singaporeans are the best as we do not have these poor qualities.
The Zhuhai girls think highly of Singaporeans, esp property consultants, as we splash them with gifts inclduing brand new Nokia
No, they don't think highly of you. They think you are suckers.
From the way you talk or think though, you're not the brightest bulb in the lamp. Come on.... you give her a $300 Nokia (which isn't even a high end phone, it's not like you got her an iPhone), and you expect her to be faithful to you? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!
Let me ask you this, let's say some random woman comes up to you on the street. She gives you a $300 Nokia phone and tells you, "don't have sex with other girls." What would you do??? I'll tell you what I would do, I'd take the phone, say, "sure honey, whatever you say." Then I would go down the road and pick up a girl, or two, all the while thinking to myself, "what a STUPID woman."
Here's something else for you to think about.... I'm Korean. I get told by hookers all the time, "Koreans are the best looking, much taller and handsomer than Chinese men." I don't think a single hooker has NOT told me that, every one of them has said something to that effect. Do I believe them? HELL NO!!! You know why? I'm not a sucker.
DON'T BE A SUCKER!!!
Have sent you a PM to privately update you please change topic & keep the thread going along for the benefit of the community. Thanks! Wapec
Does anyone know where he is - gone AWOL? I send him pm and also email but no reply. Someone pm me, thanks.
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SE Asia Joe
09-27-08, 05:21
And what's this? Us Hong Kongers - and Taiwanese - are all un-educated, bad mannered, don't speak English, and NOT gentlemen?
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The Zhuhai grils think this:
Taiwanese are rough and calculative.
HongKonger are showoff and petty.
Malaysians are stingy and bastard.
Macaunese are poor yet demanding.
Singaporeans are the best as we do not have these poor qualities.
The Zhuhai girls think highly of Singaporeans, esp property consultants, as we splash them with gifts inclduing brand new Nokia
Hmmmm... this from the Zhuhai sifu - right?? yeah - sifu or si faat?
seaj
Ok. Let's stop berating JamesChong. He tried to make a girlfriend out of a Zhuhai hooker and she ran off with his $300 phone. So, what's new? We have all "been there and done that" in the same way or another.
Maybe her pimp now has the phone. All of these Zhuhai hookers are controlled by pimps who take a portion of the money. When you sit at the green umbrella bars on LianHuaLu you will see a network of pimps standing by the shop doorways, often playing with their phones and carefully watching the actions of every john and girl. They know who she went with, where to and for how long.
OldAsiaHand
09-27-08, 06:35
When I crossed from HK at HuangGang yesterday, they were still checking everybody with a bag. Let's hope they relax this crossing soon too.
OAH
I can see some movement into the right direction. When i crossed the border to Zhuhai yesterday, they had removed the lines leading to customs control. It is no longer necessary to put every handbag into the x-ray. No streetwalkers on LHL though. Lets hope that other relaxations follow soon.
OldAsiaHand
09-27-08, 06:47
I can't help but add my 2 fen on the subject of Singaporean mongers. I was on a Singapore airlines flight from Guangzhou to Singapore last year sitting behind a bunch of guys that had been mongering in China. I could not help but overhear their conversations.
They way they talked about KTV girls was like they were their girlfriends. They couldn't wait to come back to China to see these girls since they were waiting exclusively for them and had promised not to work in the KTV. These guys had been told that they were better than all the other punters the girls had met, Singaporeans are the best, etc. I could not believe how naive these guys were.
I am old, fat and ugly, but all the girls that I do tell me I am young, fit and handsome. It is part of the job.
There has been substantial dialogue on this forum regarding this so I will not belabor the point, only to post my favorite quote again, "You can take a girl out of a bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl".
Just my POV.
OAH
Hey James. Hope these posts don't cause you to not post anymore. Your story about the girl getting the phone was informative and the girl's story about "Singapore guys being better" created a useful debate.
In reality, these hookers don't give a damn about who we are or where we are from, they just think about the money. That's their job. Some of the new girls may have romantic ideals, but that is soon abandoned when the reality sets in, "I'm a hooker".
Learn from the experience, learn from the criticism, learn from this forum, agree or disagree, and move on to more fun.
Hey James. Hope these posts don't cause you to not post anymore. Your story about the girl getting the phone was informative and the girl's story about "Singapore guys being better" created a useful debate.
In reality, these hookers don't give a damn about who we are or where we are from, they just think about the money. That's their job. Some of the new girls may have romantic ideals, but that is soon abandoned when the reality sets in, "I'm a hooker".
Learn from the experience, learn from the criticism, learn from this forum, agree or disagree, and move on to more fun.You just gotta sit around the umbrellar bars and see how the mamas are chasing the girls around.
It doesn't take long to recognize. That's mafia organized and the girls have no decision to make once they are there. I believe half of the people standing around LHL are involved in the background into control and protection (from LE).
Macauzhuhaiboy
09-27-08, 13:45
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Importculture
09-27-08, 14:29
Hi Fast Eddie 48,
Any idea if Da Ming Yuan sauna is open? I read previous posts that you need to take a cab to DMY. How much is the cab fare? And how much do they charge for a 90 min session? Hope you can shed some light and a million thanks!
I believe half of the people standing around LHL are involved in the background into control and protection (from LE).
I had been to LHL many times and had never taken much notice of the sideshow, until our friend Johnny Kon (Superforce) pointed it out to me. Guys casually standing around the entrance to the shops texting each other are watching us and the girls.
When the LE shows up the girls run into those very same shops for protection. I think the LE does not want to close down the show, they just keep the pressure on, so the whole protection routine keeps on rolling.
I don't know why Singaporeans are trash talking other people on this board. But in terms of how Singaporeans translate to working women, i must tell you that Singaporeans are well liked by working girls because they are suckers. They overpay on everything and they are easy to be tricked into coughing up large sums of money to working girls. Singaporean guys are easy to be milked and thrown away- an easy money tree.
It is almost effortless for the girls to trick singaporean guys. Look, you just spent more than $300 on a nokia phone for your girl that blew you off.
You should wise up! Don't ruin the market by overpaying. And please don't judge people by what nationalities they are. The more you spoil these girls the more they take advantage of you. It is the jungle out here in China, and sympathy will only result in you having an empty wallet.
AsnDragon
Here's something else for you to think about. I'm Korean. I get told by hookers all the time, "Koreans are the best looking, much taller and handsomer than Chinese men." I don't think a single hooker has NOT told me that, every one of them has said something to that effect. Do I believe them? HELL NO!!! You know why? I'm not a sucker.
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Moody Korean, do you know that Koreans are ranked even lower than Malaysians in Zhuhai?
Maybe you are on par with the occasional Blacks in Zhuhai
The fact is Singaporeans are the most popular in Zhuhai, especially high-earning professionals like property consultants inclduing myself.
Here's something else for you to think about. I'm Korean. I get told by hookers all the time, "Koreans are the best looking, much taller and handsomer than Chinese men." I don't think a single hooker has NOT told me that, every one of them has said something to that effect. Do I believe them? HELL NO!!! You know why? I'm not a sucker.
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Moody Korean, do you know that Koreans are ranked even lower than Malaysians in Zhuhai?
Maybe you are on par with the occasional Blacks in Zhuhai
The fact is Singaporeans are the most popular in Zhuhai, especially high-earning professionals like property consultants inclduing myself.
Man.... you really got an obsession about this ranking nonsense....LOL
Who cares???
And hey, if you're a high earning professional, good for you... personally, I'm just a low earning construction worker getting by on 30 RMB a day. I can't even afford the hookers on LHL and I certainly can't buy a girl a $300 Nokia phone, especially ones from Singapore, because those are extra special and much better than the ones from Hong Kong.
And you are right of course, the girl completely wronged you. You gave her a Nokia phone from Singapore.... that means something!!!! Once she accepted that from you, she should have sworn to never look at another man and to bear you at least 8 sons. $300 Nokia phone means bonded forever!!!
You are also 100% correct about your girl. Girls who work at clean massage centers NEVER go out with clients. They NEVER get messages from clients. They NEVER get phone calls from clients. They NEVER get gifts from clients. The fact that you gave her a $300 Nokia phone means she's yours, bought and paid for.
Here's a little joke I like to tell every now and then:
A guy sees a really pretty woman in a bar, and he goes up to her and says, "hi there, I just won the lottery and I wanna ask you, would you have sex with me for a million dollars?"
The girl thinks about it for a minute and decides, hey, a million dollars is a lot of money, she says, "ok, I'll have sex with you for a million dollars."
The guy then says, "listen, you look like a nice girl, so I'll tell you the truth. I didn't win the lottery, but I got $10 in my pocket that I can give you if you have sex with me."
The girls looks shocked and says, "what kind of girl do you take me for?"
The guy answers back, "oh, I know what kind of girl you are..... now we just negotiating on the price."
And finally, thanks for telling me where my ranking is. I guess if I'm ranked lower than a black guy in Zhuhai, I should go hang out on the beaches and try to get a really dark suntan. Maybe that'll improve my social standing and help me get some girls. I'm gonna have to just try to get by on my looks since I'll never be able to give a girl a Nokia phone, especially the really good $300 ones from Singapore.
P.S. Are you Long CU's long lost brother? Any relation to OWL?
[QUOTE=Santa]Ok. Let's stop berating JamesChong. He tried to make a girlfriend out of a Zhuhai hooker and she ran off with his $300 phone. So, what's new? We have all "been there and done that" in the same way or another.
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[Deleted by Admin] Santa!
My girl is not a LHL hooker!
She's working in a clean massage centre and she's a babe
Maybe your girl is a LHL hooker!
I fucked her on the phone showing her we Singaporeans are not idiots like you Hongkongers, Taiwanese or Malaysians!
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any personal attacks or derogatory comments directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.Let's try to get a little logic going here.
First: I assumed you were talking about a working hooker, since that is the primary topic of this forum. If she is or was your "loving girlfriend", a regular girl, why are you talking about her on this forum? Many of the guys on this forum have wives or true girlfriends and they do not post about them on this website. Anyway, if this girl is working in a "clean Zhuhai massage" then I suspect she might also be available for some extra activities with financial benefits.
Second: It's a well known fact that chinese girls and their parents, who are seeking foreign husbands, have their ideal preferences. Most of them would prefer to find a chinese guy who speaks mandarin and is successfull financially. So naturally Singaporeans fit that profile.
Taiwanese, Californians and Australian chinese, who speak mandarin, would also be very desirable. HongKong guys speak mostly cantonese. There is nothing new here, most of us already know this. Naturally, Malaysians and especially Koreans do not fit the profile.
But if we are talking about Zhuhai hookers then it's a completely different story. Most of them don't give a shit about you, what you do or where you are from.
PS. I agree with Tiger and this will be my final reply to JChong. He seems to be just another antagonist looking for an audience.
OldAsiaHand
09-28-08, 04:26
Guys, would you pelase stop feeding the trolls, leave this idiot alone and get back to the subject. It was clear from his very first post what he was up to.
Greetings from Koizumi, Flushpump and the alikes.
Since you guys are so nicely reacting, he started so spread his stupid story on the Shenzhen and Guangzhou thread.
I used to do a "legit" Hubei footie girl in Shenzhen when I was living there. I would take her to eat at the Blue & White (next door to the footie) for around 20-30 RMB every time I did her and I bought her a pair of shoes once for 168 RMB in WalMart. That was my total investment for around 3 months of sex whenever I wanted it; 1-2 times a week. Oh, I had to rent a ST room too since she was staying in joint accomodation provided by the footie. She never asked me for more. I finally got bored. Luckily, she moved back to Hubei and that was the end.
Call me a cheapskate if you will, but I am curious how many times JamesChong did his "clean babe for the 300$ phone.
OAH
Here's something else for you to think about. I'm Korean. I get told by hookers all the time, "Koreans are the best looking, much taller and handsomer than Chinese men." I don't think a single hooker has NOT told me that, every one of them has said something to that effect. Do I believe them? HELL NO!!! You know why? I'm not a sucker.
I don't understand, first you said you are Singaporean then you said you are Koerean. I might have to read everything again.
I have met a few Singaporean guys and they are very nice. The problem is most working girls will try to take advantage of you if you are too nice. For example, asking for more money, telling their stories about sick parents, sending money back home. They will lie. You don’t know if they are telling the truth. But James’s girl was not a working girl.
I think James got used and is mad about it. I think he wanted a serious relationship with the girl and got dumped. Like most guys, including me, buy them gifts and thinking there is a relationship while there are other guys. She made you look like a fool and BROKE YOUR HEART. This has happened to me and a billion other guys. It is time to move to another girl. You can look at it a different way, you got into her pants for $300RMB.
It would have been nice to read some of the deleted/Edited post by others.
After all Singaporeans are most prized in Zhuhai
Oh no, not again!
Would someone please throw this "prized" monkey a banana. :D
Fast Eddie 48
09-28-08, 11:31
Hi Fast Eddie 48,
Any idea if Da Ming Yuan sauna is open? I read previous posts that you need to take a cab to DMY. How much is the cab fare? And how much do they charge for a 90 min session? Hope you can shed some light and a million thanks!To import,
I went there on Sept 15, they told me 19th.
I went back on the 20th, they told me end of Sept.
You should call ahead.
They have not been offering any FS since the Bejing Games as of most saunas in ZH.
The cab fare is around 15 rmb, a short 15 min from the Gongbei border.
If you go during Happy Hour (5pm to 8 pm), the prices are 168 rmb and 218 for vip room, 90 min, all included.
It's the best deal in town, but I was told if they reopen some service will be cut.
I'm not sure if AR will be one of them.
Fast eddie 48
Greetings to all my fellow forum members.
I'm going to be coming to Zhuhai in a couple weeks, and I've heard recently that alot of the saunas are closed. Just wondering if anybody could give me some advice on this. Is the current situation for mongering in Zhuhai any good at the moment? I love saunas, and can't wait to try out the Zhuhai scene, but don't want to come if all the saunas are closed.
If anybody wants go to KTV together PM me.
Cheers
Greetings to all my fellow forum members.
I'm going to be coming to Zhuhai in a couple weeks, and I've heard recently that alot of the saunas are closed. Just wondering if anybody could give me some advice on this. Is the current situation for mongering in Zhuhai any good at the moment? I love saunas, and can't wait to try out the Zhuhai scene, but don't want to come if all the saunas are closed.
If anybody wants go to KTV together PM me.
CheersThe problem is that you ask the question today, but need an answer for in a couple of weeks. Things may change on a daily basis now. Today LHL was crowling with SWs, as opposed to a couple of days back when it was dead. The only thing you can be sure about in China, is that things keep changing fast. You need to try your luck by just hoping things will be better than yesterday. I have some confidence.
I said that Koreans are ranked down the popularity ladder!
Yeah, that's why everybody watches Korean TV dramas, buy Korean DVDs, listen to Korean music...
Question: Who's the No. 1 music star in China?
Answer: Rain!!!
Question: Where's he from?
Answer: Korea!!!
Question: How many Singaporean singers do Chinese recognize by name?
Answer: 0
Question: How many Singaporean celebrities make ads for KFC and Pepsi?
Anwer: 0
Ask any girl if they know the names of any Korean celebrities, they'll give you dozens... I bet they can't do the same for Singaporean celebrities...
Dude, the girls just tell you what you want to hear.... If you were Vietnamese, they would tell you the exact same thing. If you were Thai, Indian, or Filipino, they would tell you they love dark skin. If you were a dwarf with a cleft foot, they would tell you they love that too....
Like I said before, don't get too high on yourself and don't be a sucker.
And please..... don't talk about a $300 cell phone as if it's some huge thing... It makes you sound poor.
Tomdickharry
09-29-08, 03:24
Of course I don't expect her to return me the handphone!
But I expect her to be faithful to me because I gave her the handphone Ia brand new Nokia ok!)
We Singaporeans are very loyal and faithful and we expext the same standard
From the way you talk, you sound like some showoff Hongkonger, Howlian Taiwanese or some cheapskate Malaysian
Worse of all, you sound anti-Singaporean!Hmmmmmm. You got the nerve to flame me and others and all from my reponse "what do you expect?" I was trying to be sympathetic, no more no less.
TDH
to B888,
I was in Zhu hai on the 18th and I saw a girl with attiude got pepper spray and put in the partol wagon and 2 hr later she was on the st again ,actions is bad in Zhu hai right now most of my favorite sauna is not offer full service right now .
Ming hao is offering service raise the price to 338 rmb but cut back on their service and quality is poor ,I was told by dai ming yuan they will be back in business by end of the month.
Fast eddie 48Fast Eddie,
Thanks for the information.... I myself have been sticking to Jing Yu sauna which seems to be 100% operation wise and service is just as good as before Olympics. Old Chang An seems to be normal but I haven't been there for a month now.
LHL girls - I am seeing more and more new girls every night - maybe in response to the limited sauna action.
B888
Importculture
09-29-08, 11:19
Thanks Fast Eddie for your reply.
To Banana 888, I went to Jin Yu on 21st but it was still closed. They will only open after 12 midnight. Any idea what are the rates they're charging.
Are you referring to the sauna located at Jin Yu Hotel -http://www.easyzh.com/en/detail~id~62.html
Bull Dozer
09-30-08, 02:50
I was in Zhuhai on 9/22/08, the hotel manager Jack where I stayed took me over to DMY, I was surprised when Jack said lets just get one room, I had no problem with that, so we picked out two girls, I had to get two line ups to choose my girl, the first lineup, girls looked too much of a pro. The Girl in the first lineup I wanted, Jack also picked the same one, so I was able to find a much prettier & younger looking girl from Hubei. It is fun to watch the other girl fuck her brains out, Jacks girl was really a good performer in all aspects, I think her experience counted. My girl was OK but was not so much into it, that pretty face was good but her performance lacked quite a bit. Overall it was a lot of fun. The Damage was 500RMB, for separate rooms it would have been 280each. May be the prices have gone up at DMY since the Olympics.
Thanks Fast Eddie for your reply.
To Banana 888, I went to Jin Yu on 21st but it was still closed. They will only open after 12 midnight. Any idea what are the rates they're charging.
Are you referring to the sauna located at Jin Yu Hotel -http://www.easyzh.com/en/detail~id~62.htmlImport.
Yes thats the correct sauna - the 3rd floor of the Jin Yu hotel. No idea why it was closed on 21st, although I do know it was closed on 18th. I went in around 11:30pm on the 18th and had to wait till after midnight for action. In terms of pricing, the last 2 times I went they have ceased giving out coupons so its 300rmb. I was there lastnight (29th) with a friend, we went in after midnight and all seemed ok. As an alternative you could try Old Chang An which seems to doing business as normal. I saw about 5 Chinese chaps enter when I was drinking on LHL. Of course with the national holidays all this information could be invalid now.
Good luck
B888
Fast Eddie 48
09-30-08, 16:43
Hmmmm.... you paid for Jack to get screwed too?? Hmmmm...
JoeSE Asia Joe,
Even at 258 for one person he got screwd.
The VIP Room is 218 rmb from 5pm to 8 pm all inclusive.
There is no way DMY can double their price.
They will not have any business.
There are so many saunas in ZH.
I don't know why Go Joe paid this price.
He is a senior member that reads the forum and should know better.
Fast eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
10-01-08, 06:49
SE Asia Joe,
Even at 258 for one person he got screwd.
I don't know why Go Joe paid this price.
He is a senior member that reads the forum and should know better.
Fast eddie 48
Actuallly...... I'm more "bemused" by the fact that he paid for Jack's screw rather than the thing about the price of the Sauna. Now you're confirming that even on the price, good Ole Go Joe (anybody with a name Joe cain't be all that bad can he??) also got screwed?? Wonder if there's commissions involved?
A Giotto Jack ain't huh?
SEAJ
I tried Jin Yu Sauna (3rd floor of Jin Yu Hotel building) on sunday night, around 11pm.
Was offered a lineup of five girls (mamasan had suggested just bringing one in but I asked to be able to select). None of them smiled or gave much eye contact, so choose who appeared to be the cutest one. When they introduced their province when in the lineup this girl said she was from Sichuan.
She had quite a nice body (reasonable breasts on a small body). I told her she could skip the fire and ice stuff as in Shanghai previously I found the sex is better if you start with some conversation first and then 'warm them up'. I don't know how many she'd already had that day however as she didn't get warmed up at all. In fact she took the idea that she could skip the fire and ice to mean that we were skipping sex as well, which was not the idea at all...
Anyway once we got going it was actually not bad, despite her need for lubricant. She was happy with different positions and we finished up after about five or so different ones.
Even though it was a very average experience I'd still prefer to spend 300 here rather than 200 on a girl from outside who in most likeliness would give crap service and risk of an STD.
Bull Dozer
10-01-08, 23:33
Looks I did get screwed & also paid for Jacks girl, but it was OK, he helped in other ways in getting more girls, I got two girls from Their foot massage for free. I went back to his hotel & got preferential treatment just a small investment. But I will be careful from now on.
GJ
SE Asia Joe,
Even at 258 for one person he got screwd.
The VIP Room is 218 rmb from 5pm to 8 pm all inclusive.
There is no way DMY can double their price.
They will not have any business.
There are so many saunas in ZH.
I don't know why Go Joe paid this price.
He is a senior member that reads the forum and should know better.
Fast eddie 48
Bull Dozer
10-01-08, 23:38
Guys,
I will be in Zhuhai Oct.11th &12th lets hangout, please PM me before 8th with phone number if you have one, lets hit the saunas or KTV or whatever works.
GJ
Superforce99
10-02-08, 04:30
Since I know Jack and introduced him to Go Joe, let me say that I don't think Jack screwed Go Joe at all. He basically greeted Joe from the time he arrived in ZH, to giving him a good hotel room/massages at a discount, to personally bringing him around different spots in ZH. Does it still sound like one guy screwing another? If it was me doing all this, I wouldn't have asked for Joe to pay for a sauna session, but then again, that's just me.
Also, for Fast Eddie: Joe/Jack had the actual hotel rooms up on the 4/5 floor of DMY, so the pricing is not the same as the smaller VIP rooms in the basement of DMY, so the pricing is correct.
Basically, don't feel bad Joe, nobody took real advantage of you. If you don't know your way around a place and someone personally helps you around, thanking that guy is not him screwing you.
SF99
PS. What the fuck is up with the Zhuhai board recently?? Goddamn there is a lot of useless BS being posted...
Superforce99
10-02-08, 04:45
Wanted to explore some lesser-known saunas in the Gongbei area recently so I headed to near the Gongbei Border crossing area, near the Fu Hai Hotel. Lots of construction going on in the area so it was hard to navigate, but onward and upward...
Walked to the first massage/sauna place I saw, which has a huge, narrow first floor with the front desk and the facilities on the second floor. Asked for sauna and was brought upstairs past some old-ass worn massage chairs, past some old-ass worn exercise machines (reminded me of a Chinese rip-off Soloflex), and then past some secret door and up some stairs to the huge, old-ass, worn sauna rooms...notice a pattern? Was shown a line up of a few girls and they seemed OK but not great. Decided to try it out for the sake of it.
Overall, the girl was OK, but once she stripped, I was less impressed with her body. Her quick BJ was lame and I just wanted to fuck and get outta there. The funny thing was that she had a relatively strong orgasm because I told her to skip all the "slurping liquid" services, the lame BJ didn't really get me going that much, and I had to fuck her for maybe 10 minutes or so before finishing. She told me most guys finish in 2-3 minutes max and fuck too rapid-fire style. WTF?? Well, I guess one of us had some kind of fun...
Overall, lame as shit and not worth going back there. Now I know why these other saunas have no reputation or press...they suck. Forgot the name, but it's basically directly across the street from the Golden Port Massage/Sauna. Cost was 288 RMB for 90 minutes but I think I was there 45 minutes tops.
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In other news, the local BBSs in Xin Xiangzhou district are all gone now. All the BBSs have been converted to second-hand electronics shops or convenience stores. Too bad, they were great while they lasted and one of the few large concentrations of BBSs in Zhuhai where 130 RMB quickies could be had with young cute gals.
SF99
Bull Dozer
10-02-08, 23:48
Super Force is correct, I had a great time in Zhuhai, I think Jack was very good to me, he did not ask me but it was my own gesture to pay for him.
Jack treated me very well & I have no regrets. There are many girls who rip you off, or if you don't get what you want ,or the girl doesn't do anything for you, what can you do, just pay & move on, thats the risk you must take in the mongering business. Where in USA can you get a 22 year old girl to fuck you for $30.00, just a regular body massage costs $60-$75.00. So be happy & hope for the best.
Go Joe
Since I know Jack and introduced him to Go Joe, let me say that I don't think Jack screwed Go Joe at all. He basically greeted Joe from the time he arrived in ZH, to giving him a good hotel room/massages at a discount, to personally bringing him around different spots in ZH. Does it still sound like one guy screwing another? If it was me doing all this, I wouldn't have asked for Joe to pay for a sauna session, but then again, that's just me.
Also, for Fast Eddie: Joe/Jack had the actual hotel rooms up on the 4/5 floor of DMY, so the pricing is not the same as the smaller VIP rooms in the basement of DMY, so the pricing is correct.
Basically, don't feel bad Joe, nobody took real advantage of you. If you don't know your way around a place and someone personally helps you around, thanking that guy is not him screwing you.
SF99
PS. What the fuck is up with the Zhuhai board recently?? Goddamn there is a lot of useless BS being posted...
Superforce99
10-04-08, 18:23
Been meaning to make a post about this for a few weeks now, but I kept forgetting to download the pics to my
computer. Anyway, I was shopping in Watsons one day and saw an unfamiliar condom being sold.The brand name is
Manix and it's a French company. There is a relatively wide variety of Manix type condoms available, from special
ribbed, 0.03, to 0.02.Decided to see how the Manix 0.02 stacked up. The 0.02 condoms are not cheap, by the way,
about 98 RMB for a box of 12 and the 0.02 variety are also the most expensive Manix.
Tested them with a bunch of gals and my opinion is that they are OK; not good, not bad. Definitely inferior to
Sagami 0.02 and even Okomoto 0.03, and that's not even factoring in the expensive price yet. They are lightly
lubed and feel somewhat thinner than a regular condom but slightly thicker than an Okomoto 0.03. For some reason,
there is a light vanilla flavoring to the condom, too, which makes for an...interesting...scent in the room if
you are fucking like an animal for a long time...kind of like B.O. meets Glade Air Freshener...
Attached are pics of the condom box and the condom packaging. They are better than the Chinese condoms by far,
but when I finish off this box, I won't be a repeat Manix customer. The best condoms are still Okomoto Nude 0.03
(not the Okomoto Platinum 0.03) and then Sagami 0.02 a close second. In fact, I had two girls this week ask me
for an extra Okomoto Nude 0.03 condom after our fuckfest as a keepsake because they thought it felt so good and
wanted to have one for special occasions...
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In other ZH findings, I recently discovered an interesting oil massage place where the masseuse uses her inner thighs
to massage your whole body. It's quite sensual and a real turn on so by the time she is almost done with the massage
and finishing with the HJ, you'll be in heaven. It's nearby the Holiday Inn Hotel in Jida district. If you exit the
hotel, turn left and walk down the street about two blocks. When you see a Circle K convenience store, you're in the
correct general area. Look across the street and there should be a Thai massage place. I don't remember the name, but
it's done up in some fake gold colors and the greeting girl outside should be wearing some fake-looking Thai traditional
clothing. She'll bring you upstairs and a male captain should greet you. Tell him you want an oil massage and he'll
bring you to a private massage room. Tell him you have been there before/a friend recommended you, and you want the
158 RMB total package ("quan tao tui you" in pinyin). And that's the total price for a 1 hour massage plus HJ inclusive.
You can tip if you want but it's not required or asked for. The girls have ranked from plain to cute, but none that
I would really call hot.
SF99
El Minetero
10-05-08, 05:09
On the subject of condoms, some have reported that the 'Inspiral' spiral shaped condoms have a pleasing effect for both partners.
KT
SE Asia Joe
10-06-08, 07:39
In other ZH findings, I recently discovered an interesting oil massage place where the masseuse uses her inner thighs
to massage your whole body. It's quite sensual and a real turn on so by the time she is almost done with the massage
and finishing with the HJ, you'll be in heaven.
SF99
Oh wow! Is she naked or clothed when massaging you with her inner thighs?
(since it's a HJ place). Seems a real good deal/cheap!
During full saunas - I always enjoy having the gal using her bush as a Loofah to "scrub" my body as well as when we're in bed and she runs her bush lightly all over my body!! This is especially the case when the gal is FULLY bushed/real hairy (And yeah - you guys who love to mutilate our gals by shaving them - STOP THAT!!) like the one I just had at Tung Fong Mei Li CA. Jeez - she was nice and bushy and really knows how to use "it".
On top of everything else, this gal was a real Pro and had started the session by going down on me - straight off the bat! I mean, she didn't tell me to bathe first or anything, just started to stroke my little pecker, had a good look at it, sort of sniffed it and started blowing me!!! First time this happened to me!
So I then needed to know - and asked me how many times I can come - and her reply .... up to you, as many times as you want within the 2 hours! and of course that.... to me.... was a great invitation to CIM!! what a real pro!!
Nice!!!
SEAJ
Oh wow! I just started to stroke my little pecker, had a good look at it, sort of sniffed it and started blowing!!!
Nice!!!
SEAJ
This is why we call him "Little Joe".
:D Ho,ho,ho!!! Lol!!! ROFL!!!
SE Asia Joe
10-06-08, 08:12
This is why we call him "Little Joe".
:D Ho,ho,ho!!! Lol!!! ROFL!!!
Yes Hoss!
Wait till you get back here and I tell all the gals that you're hung like a Hoss - let's see how much action YOU're gonna get!!
SEAJ
Ps. from the increasing frequency of your posting here of late, do I detect your increasing disatisfaction with the scene in good Ole cleveland - and how unassailable the temptations of the beauties of Southern China really are? Are you actually starting to hear them waft their siren calls for your soonest return??
dmy
revisited dmy a few days ago as i wanted a change from jin yu. jumped in a taxi, said the magic words and off i went. exited the lift on the 3rd floor and was given the choice of vip or regular room, i plumped for the vip option and was led back to the elevator for the 4th floor. the room was nice enough although lacking on mirrors for those who like to watch themselves in action. was shown 2 line ups of 4; the first was not up to scratch so i eventually went with a guangxi girl. 667 from the second line up. she was petite, could be called cute but not a stunner. slim body with nice smooth skin.
667 was quite friendly and started by sitting on my lap as i tested the goods with my eager hands. talked a bit but i sensed some delay tactics from her part so i told her to get on with shower part. she asked me to undress her which was a first for me in saunas. obviously i took full advantage of this. the shower was routine although i got the feeling she was taking her time somewhat. a little polite coaxing from me and she soon speeded things up. onto the bed and it was the usual step by step licking thing they all run through at dmy. funny though, when it came to my behind, she asked, "do i have to? ", no need to inform you of my answer. the part when she did that vacuum thing on my back was somewhat painful, i've never found this a turn on at all so i told her stop. rolled over and then more licking and slurping. her bj technique was quite good, leaving my tool in her mouth as she flicked around with her tongue. i quite enjoyed the main part as she made nice eye contact as i was pumping her. finished from behind as per my usual routine then it was the habitual cigarette and chat. all in all a good session and who can complain at 280rmb? i've heard of a top ten list of girls here which i might investigate on my next visit.
lhl
obviously the recent weather has had an effect on the lhl activities. during the calmer weather periods i have noticed some of the new girls have disappeared as well as some of the usual suspects. i'm guessing the hoilday period has something to do with this. i had session with one of the more familiar girls from lhl a couple of nights ago. somewhat of a bizarre scenario which i cannot go into. suffice to say it was a delivery as opposed to a pick up. when i first saw her at the door, i thought oh shit no you as i was pretty sure she was a girl who had a bad rep. cute looking girl, usually has her hair tied back, wears white "***** shorts", a black tracksuit sleeveless top and she has a tattoo on one of shoulders. session was ok. nothing to write home about but in nothing to complain about considering the price. 200 yuan. thank you very much. hoping i can bang 10 lhl girls without having to write a bad report.
b888
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ManonsanBoy
10-06-08, 22:04
Dmy
Revisited DMY
LHL
Obviously the recent weather has had an effect on the LHL activities. During the calmer weather periods I have noticed some of the new girls have
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Not in abbreviation list
ManonsanBoy
10-07-08, 01:35
Can some one post a google map of all the usual spots?
ManonsanBoy
10-07-08, 02:40
I am reading the forum. When you guys say 300, is that total or just the cost of the room? What do you give the girls?
Superforce99
10-07-08, 09:55
I am reading the forum. When you guys say 300, is that total or just the cost of the room? What do you give the girls?
Zhuhai saunas are usually cheaper than other places, particularly Dongguan and Shanghai. The price that usually referred to in ZH reports is the total price for room + girl. You can tip the girl if you want, but mostly they don't ask/expect...unless you want to start training them to...
SF99
ManonsanBoy
DMY = Da Ming Yuan - a popular sauna discussed very often here.
LHL = Lian Hua Lu, Lotus Road,Situated in Gombei, famous for the umbrella bars and infamous as a prime spot to pick up SW's.
Attached are 2 maps of Gombei with various hotspots highlighted; one is a Googlemap and the other is a satellite image. Hope this helps you or any other punters new to Zhuhai.
Happy Mongering
B888
ManonsanBoy
10-07-08, 20:17
ManonsanBoy
Attached are 2 maps of Gombei with various hotspots highlighted; one is a Googlemap and the other is a satellite image. Hope this helps you or any other punters new to Zhuhai.
Happy Mongering
B888
You are a champion! Thanks.
Gombei Maps...
Let's please keep the names as they are in Pinyin, not to add confusion. It's difficult enough that the Chinese have a different name in every dialect.
The name is Gongbei ( 拱北 ), not Gombei.
SE Asia Joe
10-08-08, 04:58
Let's please keep the names as they are in Pinyin, not to add confusion. It's difficult enough that the Chinese have a different name in every dialect.
The name is Gongbei ( 拱北 ), not Gombei.
Tiger - I doth protest!!
I usually only know the Cantonese names - and thus its Kung Pak!!
Hahah!!
SEAJ
OldAsiaHand
10-08-08, 12:34
Zhuhai saunas are usually cheaper than other places, particularly Dongguan and Shanghai. The price that usually referred to in ZH reports is the total price for room + girl. You can tip the girl if you want, but mostly they don't ask/expect...unless you want to start training them to...
SF99
I only have limited experience but I will say that although the prices for ZH saunas are definitely cheap, the quality of the talent and level of service cannot compare to those in Dongguan. I suppose many of the local ZH experts would agree.
That said, the ZH saunas are certainly better value for money. To quote a legend of the ZH mongering scene, "You get 80% of the service for 50% of the price."
Just my POV.
OAH
SE Asia Joe
10-09-08, 07:21
I only have limited experience but ....
OAH
You?? You have limited experience??!! Who you tryin' to kid?
I'd say that - like any other mongering activities - a lot's got to do with your luck/talent in spotting a good provider; but that one does have a helluva advantage in Zhuhai saunas' cheap pricing. There, one can cheaply and quickly get back on the saddle if a session does not satisfy!
SEAJ
Ps. anybody around in zhuhai this week-end to show me the ropes?
Superforce99
10-09-08, 09:33
You?? You have limited experience??!! Who you tryin' to kid?
I'd say that - like any other mongering activities - a lot's got to do with your luck/talent in spotting a good provider; but that one does have a helluva advantage in Zhuhai saunas' cheap pricing. There, one can cheaply and quickly get back on the saddle if a session does not satisfy!
SEAJ
Ps. anybody around in zhuhai this week-end to show me the ropes?
I agree with SE Joe that in ZH, you are basically guaranteed 90 minutes/FS with a sauna girl for about 240-300 RMB (I'm not going FastEddie-style and doing the 160 RMB no-shower rooms at DMY, ha ha....the girls hate doing those guys because they usually don't wash well or at all). And if it's not that good, then you can try another sauna without much monetary loss or fuss.
Also, I'm always here to show Uncle Joe the ropes...red or black, your choice, ha ha...
SF99
Up until now, I've just been a lurker on this forum, but last night I had an interesting encounter worthy of reporting. Myself and a fellow ISG member met up with Superforce in Lian Hua Lu. My friend and I had sampled many of the various methods of mongering in Zhuhai, and was hoping that Superforce could provide us with some new avenues to explore, I was not to be disappointed.
After a drink and a chat at one of the umbrella bars, we headed for a quick tour of some of the local BBS's. Heading down a laneway to the left, just after the Macau end of the umbrella bars (nearly opposite McDonalds ice cream store), we entered a place we have nicknamed "Bacteria Alley", due to the abundance of dodgy street food available. We have eaten here many times, but never ventured more than 40 meteres down the alley. Superforce then introduced us to 5 BBS within about a 200 metere walk. The quality of the girls was nothing outstanding, with most displaying little interest, but one girl at the second BBS we were shown gave me great eye contact and a smile, so I made a note to return later. The pricing of these places was great, about 140 for ST on premises, with 200 being the standard for takeaway ST.
My mate and Superforce decided to go relax and exchange more info, while I was interested in some action. We returned to the BBS where the good eye contact had been made, and negotiated a deal for ST, starting at a quote of 500 (lao wai price apparently), quickly getting the price down to local standard of 200.
Whilst doing deal, it began to dawn on me that I knew this girl from somewhere, but I couldn't remember where and she didn't seem to know me. My fellow mongers left me to head off home with girl in tow. I began chatting with girl in my fractured putonghua trying to nail where I knew her from. I eventually worked it was a girl who was a friend of a friend, one who I had taken out to several discos and KTV's with a good LT deal afterwards. The problem was that she had no idea who I was, which striked me as strange as we had been very friendly on the occasions we had been together. We continued to chat after arriving home, to the point that my hour was basically over, when the missing pieces of the jigsaw began to fall in place. After learning her English and Chinese names, I realised they were not the same as the girl I'd known, but very similar. I enquired about her sister's name and what do you know, this girl was my friend's sister. After enquiring further about whether it was her older or younger sister, it turns out that she's a twin. Without hesitation I asked her to the stay the night for 500, I was going to do twins, although not at the same time.
Spent the next few hours having some great sex and a few laughs. I made sure to get her number in the morning, with the promise of making contact again. Unfortunately, her sister is out of town at the moment, but you can bet my balls I'll being making contact with both of them with the intent of fulfilling another fantasy.
This place ceases to amaze with the the variety of pleasure on offer, and last night proved anything is possible. Hopefully I can post an update if I manage to get these two in the same place together.
A big thanks to Superforce for introducing me to some new places, and inadvertantly making this happen. Now, if you think I'm going to give any details so you can get in on this action, you must be fooling yourself, I'm keeping these two to myself. On the other hand, I'll say this, if you're after some basic cheap action then the local BBS's may well be the way to go.
Although I only saw a few girls that I was interested in, every night is different and everybody has different tastes. I know my mate and I will be heading back to "Bacteria Alley" to see what else these BBS have on offer.
Happy mongering.
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Just like to say thanks to Superforce for an informative evening and showing myself and Philthy the BBS's as mentioned in Philthy's post. I was tempted to follow Philthys lead and take home a BBS girl but then decided to leave it to another night. I was more intrigued with the sauna info that SF99 shared as thats my prefered route for punting. I will definitely try these sauna's as well as the BBS shops as I did spot a few girls worthy of a shot.
As far as recent action goes, I had a mediocre session with #110 at Jin Yu. Average looks, decent body and spoke Cantonese. The routine was quite mechanical and a bit rushed so I doubt I will repeat with her. I did enjoy her reciting stories of some of the odd goings on that have happened there. One particular story of a punter who insisted in showering by himself and having the lights off but not mentioning that he had a false arm made me laugh.
More recently I had a session with a SW from LHL. Cute girl called Mei Hwoi who said she was 20 years old. Decent enough BBJ although I did have to tell her to continue when she reached for the condom. Took her in a quite a few positions and she obliged without hesitation so that was a plus. Weird though, out of the handful of LHL girls I've done, shes the only one who hasn't approached me again.
Now onto new avenues....
After learning her English and Chinese names, I realised they were not the same as the girl I'd known, but very similar. I enquired about her sister's name and what do you know, this girl was my friend's sister. After enquiring further about whether it was her older or younger sister, it turns out that she's a twin. Without hesitation I asked her to the stay the night for 500, I was going to do twins, although not at the same time.
If one of the girls is named something like "Xiao Lin" or "Shao Leen", I think I know who you are talking about.
If I'm wrong about the name, then just be aware that both sisters might not know about what the other is doing (shagging guys for RMB), so if you bring them together in the wrong way there's a chance that both might lose face in front of each other and turn their surprise/anger toward you.
Dar
In other ZH findings, I recently discovered an interesting oil massage place where the masseuse uses her inner thighs to massage your whole body. It's quite sensual and a real turn on so by the time she is almost done with the massage and finishing with the HJ, you'll be in heaven. It's nearby the Holiday Inn Hotel in Jida district. If you exit the hotel, turn left and walk down the street about two blocks. When you see a Circle K convenience store, you're in the correct general area. Look across the street and there should be a Thai massage place. I don't remember the name, but it's done up in some fake gold colors and the greeting girl outside should be wearing some fake-looking Thai traditional clothing. She'll bring you upstairs and a male captain should greet you. Tell him you want an oil massage and he'll bring you to a private massage room. Tell him you have been there before/a friend recommended you, and you want the 158 RMB total package ("quan tao tui you" in pinyin). And that's the total price for a 1 hour massage plus HJ inclusive. You can tip if you want but it's not required or asked for. The girls have ranked from plain to cute, but none that I would really call hot.
SF99Please help to share the location.
Thanks!
Hit LHL around 9pm tonight - I haven't seen so many WG's strutting around in a long time. At least 10 new faces I had not seen before with varying degrees of attractiveness, with at least 30 girls in total parading up and down. I talked to a chap I had met before who happens to read this forum and we discussed various punting topics. He’s somewhat of a LHL veteran so our conversation was often broken up by girls or mamasans approaching him. This worked in my favour as I got a number from a girl I have been eyeing up for a long time but for some reason she’s never approached me. I pocketed the number and added it to my options of girls to do later in the evening. I’ve had a few days break from the hobby and had in mind any sauna that I hadn’t tried, a bbs chick or potentially a KTV girl (pending opportunities). My friend pointed out one girl and warned me off her as she had semi-scammed a friend of his once, turns out it’s Mei Hwoi, the last LHL girl I did. I didn’t get any trouble from her when I had her so it goes to show it is a lottery when picking these girls.
Philthy rings me and invites me to join him at a KTV, I inform him that I will join him later as I was enjoying discussing the ins and outs, up’s and downs of mongering with my friend. I sit for half an hour or so then make my way to the KTV. Philthy – who was heavily intoxicated, meets me outside and we head back inside the KTV. Inside, Philthy’s two friends have 3 girls between them and Philthy has three waiting for him - keeping his options open no doubt. He informs me he is paying for three anyway so it’s my call if I want to add another or just mingle in. I start playing dice with one cutie from Mongolia – both Philthy and I agree that she looked like she would be a demon in bed. After a couple of hours I take her number but decide not to take her out on this occasion. Philthy takes his choice out and I make my way back to LHL.
After sitting at one of my regular bars I decide to see if the WG I took the number from is around. After fending off a couple of other girls I spot her and motion for her to jump into a taxi with me. I made of point of settling the price - 200 rmb, and off we went. Pre shag I’m kind of buzzing from the alcohol I had at KTV , the fact I haven’t succumb to temptation in a while and that I’ve finally got this chick. Weird really as she’s a cutie but isn’t drop dead gorgeous – it was just that she wouldn’t approach me on LHL. Anyway – quick shower together and then it’s time to seal the deal. She offers a threesome – I decline, she offers overnight for 600 rmb, again I decline. I am wary of both these offers as I know they often lead to scam type antics. As with many of the LHL girls – her use of bra technology has me deceived, just less than a handful, nice round rear and a slight belly. Starts off with a pretty decent BBBJ, as with Mei Hwoi I have to tell her to continue when she is reaching for the condom, she obliges. We start with missionary and I smile to myself for finally getting what I want. For a kick I ask her if A’levels are on offer (it’s been a while and it would have been the icing on the cake), unfortunately she was scared it would hurt. We switch about 4 times, ending with me standing at the edge of the bed and her semi bent over it, marvelous. In reality it was probably an average session but with all the buildup – I enjoyed it as much as any of my other sessions.
So 5 LHL girls and no serious complaints yet….
B888
Hi All
Long time lurker and first time poster. I will be in Macau / Zhuhai next week:
1. While in ZH the plan is to stay either at DMY (proper hotel room) or Chang An. Are safe deposit boxes available? Is walk-in the most cost-effective way to book a room? Other than saunas, I need a hotel thats conveniently located near LHL and KTVs.
2. As you can guess I plan to spend a significant amount of my time at DMY. If anyone who's been there recently can share an update I'd appreciate it. Top ten list?
Feedback appreciated. Better yet, do let me know if anyone is keen on a meet up.
Fast Eddie 48
10-18-08, 01:46
Hi All
Long time lurker and first time poster. I will be in Macau / Zhuhai next week:
1. While in ZH the plan is to stay either at DMY (proper hotel room) or Chang An. Are safe deposit boxes available? Is walk-in the most cost-effective way to book a room? Other than saunas, I need a hotel thats conveniently located near LHL and KTVs.
2. As you can guess I plan to spend a significant amount of my time at DMY. If anyone who's been there recently can share an update I'd appreciate it. Top ten list?
Feedback appreciated. Better yet, do let me know if anyone is keen on a meet up.RSX,
DMY is a 2 star hotel room is a dump no inroom safe ,the sauna on 3 th fl are a good value not a good area to stay but room is cheap start at 180 rmb and up,the old chan an is right there at LHL room go for 320 rmb or the new chan an new world down the st is better .
Fast eddie 48
RSX
I'll be in ZH next week and can meet up with you.
B888
Member #4247
10-18-08, 13:36
Long time lurker and first time poster. I will be in Macau / Zhuhai next week:
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I will be in Zhuhai on 22 Oct for my 6th trip this year.
The chicks at LHL are going crazily happy knowing I will be there
JC
Your behaviour is not appreciated. You've been reported to the moderator for being a general nuisance to all in the China thread.
\W
Long time lurker and first time poster. I will be in Macau / Zhuhai next week:
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I will be in Zhuhai on 22 Oct for my 6th trip this year.
The chicks at LHL are going crazily happy knowing I will be there
ManonsanBoy
10-19-08, 09:59
Corssed to Zuhai from Macau. Usual offers for transportation. Got 20 RMB to Chang An Holiday hotel. Good. Bad news was Zhang Li says 268 plus 300 or 500 for girl. Too horny to argue. Had girl from Hubei who was perfectlly OK. Facilities were OK.
Still, almost 600 for FS in a massage palour is high.
Went to DMY last night just after 1am. The place was heaving as usual; I had to wait about half an hour even though I asked for a VIP room. I was shown one line that was sub standard to say the least – I guess most first line ups are. The manager pulls one girl in and asks me if she’ll do – she was semi cute with an ok body so I said ok. Her number was 618 and I think she said she was from Sichuan. Immediately she asks me if I want to add an hour – I took this as a bad sign and I was right. She didn’t show me the service card that ALL the girls are supposed to, instead she went straight into a half hearted routine. Service was very similar to a SW, all clock or TV watching. To cut a short story even shorter, after the crappy session and with still half the time to go I told her I was going. Only then did she realize I was pissed off with her – bit late for that darling. She then started to offer a full cat bath and a massage – AFTER the shag?? Maybe if she offered a second shot I might have been tempted. I got dressed and walked out. 618 chased after me down the corridor but I just walked up the stairs and straight to the payment area. I told the manager about the shit service and made sure he knew I was pissed off by saying rather loudly that it was worst service I’ve had there. I got the usual “oh next time I will recommend a good one for you”. Will be a while, if ever before there is a next time for me there.
Sunday 19th, went for a few beers at LHL – absolutely devoid of SW’s when I arrived at 9pm. A handful showed their faces after 11pm but nowhere near the numbers that been around over the last few days.
B888
...Sunday 19th, went for a few beers at LHL – absolutely devoid of SW’s when I arrived at 9pm. A handful showed their faces after 11pm but nowhere near the numbers that been around over the last few days.
B888There was a cleanup yesterday. Saw several police cars with girls inside. That must have been around 8pm. Shortly thereafter: Many policemen with helmets walking down LHL and 2 of them coming back with several girls a few minutes later.
Tonight I was invited by Philthy and another monger to a sauna session in 2000 Years Hotel Sauna. The hotel is in the Xiangzhou district of Zhuhai, about 15 minutes by taxi from Gongbei. Philthy’s friend is a regular here and Philthy had been once or twice – both had given thumbs up to his sauna so I was itching to go.
Exited the lift on the 4th floor, the regular rooms are to the right but we were led down a flight of stairs to the group vip rooms. The manageress greats us and exchanges pleasantries with Philthy’ friend – apparently she had called him recently to tell him services were back to normal. We were then led to our block of rooms. The group rooms are essentially three adjoining rooms that share a sitting area made up of 2 couches, coffee table and a LCD TV. Chinese tea was brought to us, but you can ask for juices, fizzy drinks etc – all gratis. The manageress then brings in a line up for us. The girls here all wear a uniform that is very similar to an air stewardess outfit; all they needed was hats and a trolley …. Just out of sauna habit, we ask for a second line up – unfortunately the manageress informs us that the only other girls available are the model types which cost an extra 200 yuan. So we each pick girls from the line up standing in front of us. Philthy picks one he’s seen here before but never done, our friend picks one he eventually finds out he’s done before and I pick a cutie who’s smiling at me. The rooms here are similar to other saunas here in ZH, mirrors all around, bars on the ceiling, LCD TV etc; décor and general tidiness were probably a notch higher than my usual haunts though.
As with all the saunas now, the session was very much a step by step thing but in no way was this mechanical or rushed. I was washed thoroughly in the shower, all over including my feet. She did the body writhing thing, licked my chest and back and then a quick BBBJ – so far so good. She dried me off then went to quickly shower herself. Despite my limited Mandarin, we did build some rapport so we were both in a comfortable mood. The whole thing had a nice flow to it despite all the switching of positions and her reciting the names of the acts she was performing. I wasn’t that keen on the feet licking and toe sucking and I declined the use of a toy on my rear but I enjoyed the rest of it immensely. During the toe sucking, I hear screams of pleasure from one of the nearby rooms – I was pretty sure it was Philthy but was confused as I was only on the starters and he seemed to be finishing his main course!?! I brought my attention swiftly back to my session and my girl had put a condom on my big toe and told me to toe fuck her while she went down on me – I couldn’t get a decent rhythm up and eventually just stopped. I loved the part when I got to use a dildo on her while she gobbled me – definitely a look in the mirror moment. Whilst giving it to her from behind over a red cushion type thing some football highlights come on the TV …. I was in Nirvana. After the deed we snuggled and chatted for while, showered and went back to the sitting area. Philthy’s pal was already out and eating some noodles with his girl next to him. I get him to order me some food, free of course, and compare sessions with him. Philthy exits his room 10 minutes after I do, the girls sit for a while and then leave. After exchanging stories ( Philthy was the noise culprit) – we all agreed we all had a top notch time; I would go as far as to say that this was my best sauna session in ZH. We settle our bill – 198 for the room plus 300 for the girls, so 498 RMB each. I think the regular rooms are 138, so you are looking at 438 for a session here; slightly more than I usually pay but damn worth it based on this one visit.
Went back to LHL after the sauna for a couple of drinks, there were a handful of girls patrolling but not a great deal. All the new faces I had seen recently were absent, so the raid that Tiger888 mentioned must have been a big one indeed. There were more regular police patrols than usual but there were still the odd brave SW’s floating around. Both Philthy and I were tempted at taking a SW but agreed not to ruin a good night by a potential bad session with a SW.
B888
Member #4247
10-24-08, 15:42
[QUOTE=Banana888]Tonight I was invited by Philthy and another monger to a sauna session in 2000 Years Hotel Sauna. The hotel is in the Xiangzhou district of Zhuhai, about 15 minutes by taxi from Gongbei.
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Try Hua Jun Spa
Also Milan Spa
Both at Gongbei
I am a favourite among the chicks too.
Just mention James or An Zai from Singapore - they all know me lah!
OldAsiaHand
10-25-08, 03:30
Try Hua Jun Spa
Also Milan Spa
Both at Gongbei
I am a favourite among the chicks too.
Just mention James or An Zai from Singapore - they all know me lah!
Did you give all the sauna chicks mobile phones too?
OAH
I am a favourite among the chicks too.
Just mention James or An Zai from Singapore - they all know me lah!
Maybe they love you, but the rest of us think you are... Full of Shit! :D
I know, I shouldn't respond, but couldn't help it.
I am a favourite among the chicks too.
Just mention James or An Zai from Singapore - they all know me lah!
I’ve read some of your posts on another forum – they are comical and quite frankly weird . You really need to tune into Sanity FM man! These girls “love” you as you’re splashing cash around like it’s going out of fashion (so you claim). If get an erection from stirring shit on forums – then oh woe is me for getting sucked into replying, not sure how I will get over it; then again at least it didn’t cost me a $300 phone.
Member #4247
10-25-08, 14:32
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Did you give all the sauna chicks mobile phones too?
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I give them Merlion (symbol of Singapore) keychains as meeting souvenirs
After that I buy them T-shirts, dinner and drinks
Small gifts but they love us generous and sporty Singaporeans
If she treat me well, of course I buy them handphones.
Condo and shop comes next
What about you cheapskates?
Fast Eddie 48
10-26-08, 00:19
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Did you give all the sauna chicks mobile phones too?
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I give them Merlion (symbol of Singapore) keychains as meeting souvenirs
After that I buy them T-shirts, dinner and drinks
Small gifts but they love us generous and sporty Singaporeans
If she treat me well, of course I buy them handphones.
Condo and shop comes next
What about you cheapskates?James C,
The girl in china have dollar sign in their head ,they don't care for gift like chocolate or perfume they want RMB as tip but they will take USD also .
Fast eddie 48
Meiguoguizi
10-26-08, 14:46
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Did you give all the sauna chicks mobile phones too?
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I give them Merlion (symbol of Singapore) keychains as meeting souvenirs
After that I buy them T-shirts, dinner and drinks
Small gifts but they love us generous and sporty Singaporeans
If she treat me well, of course I buy them handphones.
Condo and shop comes next
What about you cheapskates?
Jimmy, you da man! You are right! Everyone is jealous of sporty singaporeans!
Superforce99
10-27-08, 15:23
[QUOTE=Jameschong]
Jimmy, you da man! You are right! Everyone is jealous of sporty singaporeans!
Damn you M! I almost spit out my coffee upon opening that pic...ha ha ha...
SF99
RSX
I'll be in ZH next week and can meet up with you.
B888Hi there Banana888
Thanks. Would've taken you up on it had my travel plans not changed last minute.
Based on the last few reports, wouldn't have missed much esp on LHL eh?
Hi there Banana888
Thanks. Would've taken you up on it had my travel plans not changed last minute.
Based on the last few reports, wouldn't have missed much esp on LHL eh?
Yes you’re quite right; it’s been hot and cold in terms of SW’s along LHL. The last few days especially; one minute there’s girls everywhere and the next it’s totally empty. There’s still action to be had though, if you have telephone numbers. Not sure about the status of the saunas though, Old Chang An has been open but without the flashing neon sign. There were a few girls in the BBS’s when I walked past but nothing that caught my eye – not that I was really paying attention.
B888
Member #4247
10-31-08, 04:53
You must be damn unpopular to have the chicks avoiding you.
I was there last week and the street angels surround me every night, not 3 or 4 but 7 to 8 at one go
Singaporeans are the most popular in Zhuhai, especially if you a top-earning property consultant.
The massage spas, shops, restaurants, hair salons and the LHL stall mei mie know me by now. James Chong aka An Zai from Singapore
You carry on to eat your banana.
Waterfish7788
10-31-08, 09:04
Hi all,
My mate and I will be arriving at Zuhai through Macau on the 7th Nov. Will arrive at Macau around 5:15 pm and hopefully cross the border by 7pm. We will be back again on the 11th Nov as our main destination is CP.
I had being to Zhu Hai several time but mostly just stop over to other places and this time is no different. We will be staying at Jin Ye Hotel just across the road from the border.
I had tried POPOKO Hotel sauna the last time round and it is not bad. Price around RMB 320 for VIP room. For this coming trip. I would like to try out Old Chang An or Jin Yu. I know where old chang an is but i am not sure where Jin Yu is located. Is Jin Yu same as Jin Ye where i will be staying? If not, how far is it from LHL? Our plan was to hit the sauna after we check into our hotel and hang out at the umbrella stand along LHL for some beer or maybe some more actions.
Thanks in advance,
Waterfish7788
LHL was back to full flow again yesterday, I was out during the day and saw 20 – 30 girls patrolling. Met SF99 around 2am and there were still a fair number of girls out. SF99 had invited me to join him on a visit to Chang An Good World, I was busy at the time so we decided on meeting up after his visit. He informed me Good World was closed and he had to go elsewhere. Chatted for a while and we both decided on checking out DMY. Went to the 4th floor “VIP” rooms all of which had no doors on them, resulting in people having to use towels to cover the entrances. Not put off by this we went about checking the line ups. 3 or 4 line ups later we decide to check out another place as the quality was not great. On the way out, one of the attendants mentioned there were better girls on the 5th floor – we leave anyway. We then checked out the place he had visited that night, unfortunately from the time SF99 had left this place till the time we went back – the number of girls had halved. What was left wasn’t all that great, maybe one or two I would’ve picked if I was on a solo mission but being as SF99 had already had a couple of shots that night, he stated that he would only be picking a girl of at least particular grade so off we went. Next was Jin Yu, again we were not overly impressed. So now Old Chang An beckoned - it’s rare that I get the opportunity to check out OCA when all the bars outside are closed so I was quite eager. OCA was closed, no girl outside, the stairwell was dark and no lights from the windows. The sauna at the Communications building was also closed as was Popoko. Desperate times! Earlier at DMY, SF99 had mentioned a couple of girls – one of which was busy when we went, so like the persevering punters we are – we went back to DMY. Yet again the girl was busy so we went to investigate the 5th floor. Here, the rooms had the doors still on as this floor is essentially part of the hotel and separate from the sauna. The line ups got to be a joke as we were seeing the same girls over and over to the point where it got embarrassing for punter and girl. These so called captains don’t have a clue. The captain eventually drags in one girl that is up to scratch; I decide to go for it. SF99 then went to another room to continue his selection process while I get to know my choice a bit better.
Girl was from Nanning and claimed to be 23 yrs old. She was cute, a high 6 I’d say with a decent rack. Service was probably the best I’ve had at DMY; this I ascribe to some tips I got from SF99 who is much more of the sauna veteran than I am. I informed her to cut out a lot of the stuff which I see as wastes of time and managed two shots with plenty of the groping, licking, sucking between the rounds. Great session – just what I was looking for that night.
So in a nutshell – LHL is hot and cold (what’s new?) and some of the saunas seem to be clamped on again.
B888
31/10 Arrived in ZhuHai around 9pm after landing in Macau and crossing the border.
LHL was busy with girls running around giving contacts.
I wanted a sauna to relax so went to the Old ChangAn. It was closed.
I went to the Hotel nearby to enquire but was told by the attendant he was not sure. Likely there's a raid I thought, but to play safe I went to a Internet Cafe nearby to get info saw the isg posts here.
So I thought the best bet is still DMY and after a light supper I took a cab.
Took a lift to the 3rd floor and was told to wait in the lounge as rooms are fully booked. After 5 mins , I was led to a room on the 4th floor and 5 girls were brought in. I asked for another lineup but was told these are the ones left at the moment.
As it was 1am and tired , I settled for #79 a high6 in looks and body.
The water bed was removed due to raid and the girl told me she only works after midnight as it's less likely to be caught.
Without the waterbed, a brief shower by the girl and off we went to the bedroom.
She asked whether I want to start services on my back, I chose to skip.
So after a sensual breast massage on front, fire/ice bbbj, st in several positions and the 1st session ended around half an hour.
Washup and chatted in bed for 20mins with the ZhanJiang 30 yearold (looks younger) Was told the raid will be over in a few days time.
Then started the 2nd round similar to the first.
Got to say without the water bed , the sauna experience is halfed, though her attitude and service quality I would grade 8s.
Paid 280 at the cashier and took a rest at the resting lounge area.
Dozed off while watching TV and left in the morning.
Waterfish7788
11-03-08, 06:33
From what I had read so far, I think i will be arriving Zhu Hai at the wrong time. The aerospace expo is making the hotel increase their room rate and the sauna closing (judging from the past few report on old chang ann being closed) and lack of talent. I wonder what are the alternative for me just in case my favorite sauna are closed.
Waterfishh7788
From what I had read so far, I think i will be arriving Zhu Hai at the wrong time. The aerospace expo is making the hotel increase their room rate and the sauna closing (judging from the past few report on old chang ann being closed) and lack of talent. I wonder what are the alternative for me just in case my favorite sauna are closed.
Waterfishh7788
Waterfish – Old Chang An has had its shutters down the few days with a notice written on it, I'll see what it says when I get the chance. I have PM’ed you regarding directions to Jin Yu which was open when I last looked – 4 days ago. DMY is still running, I went there again on the 2nd (mediocre session not worth going into detail). But as we all know, this is China and things could have changed by tomorrow.
LHL is still hot and cold; I had a coffee there this afternoon and no girls, got back from HK at just after 11pm and there were a handful but lots of LE patrols too. Walked past Old Chang An hotel at 2am and there were about a dozen or so girls sitting on the steps.
Jimmy Chong – You were amusing for a while, now I just pity you. I will follow suit with the other members of this forum and not waste another byte of bandwidth replying to your nonsense.
B888
JC
Your behaviour is not appreciated. You've been reported to the moderator for being a general nuisance to all in the China thread.
\WHi Wapec and everyone in the forum.
Sorry for this Off Topic post, but I wanted to shed some light on this James Chong fella.
Firstly, basically, I have my doubts as to whether he is really a Singaporean at all. I'm Singaporean myself and this sort of behaviour is really rare beyond the age/intellect of 12. I guess the anonymity of the internet encourages this.
Secondly, he has also been making such posts in a local Singaporean mongering forum (which I'm sure some of you have been to before). Generally. Making an ass of himself.
So to conclude, don't feed the troll. Just ignore him. And if he really is a Singaporean. Well. Goes to show, there are black sheeps in every community.
Met up with Old Asia Hand & SE A Joe who were introduced to me via SF99.
Unfortunately, SF99 had to go back to the office after dinner so it was just the three of us for a sauna mission. After some discussion we decide to try DMY, OAH is slightly dubious as his last visit turned up a blank. His instincts were spot on….. SE A Joe and I exited the elevator first and were immediately hit with the regular / VIP room question, I respond that we want the 5th floor VIP rooms. The staff must have realized OAH was with us as they immediately started saying, “oh, its massage only tonight – NO sauna service”. The change of attitude was quite blatant and to be honest – laughable. Despite our protests and seeing other punters walk past us – they refuse to give in. Disgusted – we head back out. Just to verify the blatant discrimination, OAH send myself and SE A Joe back up and wouldn’t you know it, we were welcomed back to a full service sauna… We were asked to wait for VIP rooms but obviously we just walked out again. Tossers.
Next up is Chang An Good World, which I hadn’t tried. SF99 had kindly passed us coupons for this place so we were getting 50 RMB off the regular 388 RMB. Selection time and we get to the 3rd and final line up. Overall the girls were not that hot here, a few I would’ve done but Joe and OAH are slightly more selective (I found out today why…). The final line up had a girl who was not in uniform, the mamasan explains but I’m not paying attention and OAH doesn’t understand Cantonese too well. The girl was a trainee and available for an extra 100 with any other girl – Joe, who was paying attention snaps this deal up. He picks another girl and disappears to his room. Damn! Gutted and envious, OAH and myself end up with girls from an earlier line up that we had asked the mamasan to remember for us. I had girl 55, who wasn’t great looking but who I choose as the other girls weren’t much better. I should’ve picked anyone but this girl – crap session, rushed, mechanical and generally not much of a turn on. Thinking I’m newbie to ZH and / or sauna’s – after the session the cheeky cow says, “oh you haven’t given me my service fee yet”. I smile and tell her that it is my first time there but I was regular at Jin Yu, DMY and Old Chang An now and again. She leaves and Joe turns up not long after then OAH about 10 minutes after him. We exchange results and it appears both had good times; Joe getting a double girl session and OAH getting a double pop. Naturally I make a point of telling the mamasan of the turd service I got, whether or not my complaints will be followed up is another thing.
Back at the dynamic duo’s hotel we bump into Go Joe who had arranged to meet up with OAH earlier. We decide to sit at a bar on LHL for a while – as per recent reports LHL has not one single SW. We bump into Philthy who is having a drink or 10 at a bar. After introductions and a drink, Philthy decides to head home and the 3 ZH visitors want to check the BBS talent. I tag along to show them the way and help if needed. We visit 4 or 5 shops and each pick a girl after the usual debating and bartering. Deals done so they go back to the hotel and I head back to whatever bar takes my fancy. I got a call from OAH after half an hour informing me his girl hadn’t turned up, when I got the shop she was from, she tells me she didn’t know where the hotel was. So why the hell did she say she did earlier?? Anyway, after escorting the girl to the hotel I start to see the LHL ladies start to come out – it’s all about timing.
I was kindly invited by Joe & OAH to join them on a jaunt to CP where I had never been to before – so I met up with them the next day. Hit and miss as far as the BBS girls for the trio – although apparently Go Joe whacked his girl for 5 shots during his overnight.
Writing this up in Swan Lake hotel in CP after a very eye opening day which I will report on via the Donggaun thread. Big thanks to the ever helpful SF99 for hooking me up with SE A Joe and OAH.
B888
So many helpful info here, tks again, any hotel to recommend on staying in Zhuhai? Probably will be stopping by there after Macau in Jan next year.
Tks in advance
Member #4247
11-08-08, 10:27
U can ignore me. Who cares?
The Zhuhai girls don't ignore me, in fact they love me.
They ignore you as you are thr typical how lian cheapskate Singaporean.
Cheongsters who make a fool and disgrace themselves in Zhuhai.
I'm proud to be a high-spending Singaporean. James Chong aka An Zai. Famous in Zhuhai.
I'll be in Zhuhai November 26-28th for mongering holiday. If anyone wants to meet up for a sauna or KTV mission, please PM me. I've been a long time reader of this forum and I thought this holiday would be the highlight of my mongering career but judging from the recent posts I'm too late! Just my luck.
I'm staying at the Grand Bay View as I am splashing out a bit. Does anyone know if the Grand Bay View sauna is still offering FS during this crackdown? Anyone been there recently?
FYI, I'm a 35 yr old Aussie electrical engineer with about 2 years of Mandarin study (ie not beginner but not really intermediate either). I've only done one sauna in China before so I'm sure I'll get ripped off. I've never done the KTV thing before so I'm hoping someone is up for a mid week KTV session (even though I don't really drink much).
Of course I'll post my adventures after my visit.
Panettone
U can ignore me. Who cares?
The Zhuhai girls don't ignore me, in fact they love me.
They ignore you as you are thr typical how lian cheapskate Singaporean.
Cheongsters who make a fool and disgrace themselves in Zhuhai.
I'm proud to be a high-spending Singaporean. James Chong aka An Zai. Famous in Zhuhai.In this past few weeks, I've asked many LHL girls & also checked with a few "manager" at several saunas in the Gongbei area. None of them have heard of your name or know any high spending Singaporean.
Guess all the money you have spent in Zhuhai aren't as much as you think. LOL
SE Asia Joe
11-10-08, 05:01
Met up with Old Asia Hand & SE A Joe who were introduced to me via SF99.B888
Yup - OAH and I decided we really need a break from our usual haunts and decided on Zhuhai - mainly becoz SF99 is there and we all know how helpfull he is.
True to his reputation, SF99 met up with us bearing gifts - and each and every one of the items he gave us were GREAT and very very useful!!
On top of that, knowing that he needed to be at work, SF99 had made it a point to introduce us to BNN888 - who is also very accomodating. Hmmmm... wonder why guys in Zhuhai are so much more accomodating and laid back!!! Must be the Sun, Sea and Sand there!!
On the RMB100 Extra for the Trainee I got - I really got a GREAT deal!! SF 99 had armed us with RMB50 OFF coupons for the CA good world and we were to have paid RMB338 - i/o 388 - for each gal. When the Mommie introduced the trainee, I had asked if she was the usual RMB100 extra charge and emphatically asked if my price for the 2 gal would be RMB438 total. Confirmed.
when it came to paying the bill at the counter, the same mommie was of course fawning over us and doing her PR bit. OAH and BNN888 paid their RMB338 each and I then gave the cashier RMB 440 - which was when it was established that the RMB50 OFF coupon does NOT apply for my 2 gal combo!!
Embarrassed looks from the mommie, non-chalance from me - and more embarrassed looks coupled with weak apologies.... met with more non-chalance - and not much else - from me!!! And she breaks down and meekly told the cashier to take the RMB50 from her own account!!
Gals.... I do not enjoy beating down their price or whatever - but Mommies??!!! Yeah.... Love it!! Really Love it!!
SEAJ
Superforce99
11-10-08, 09:17
Went back to the "oily thigh" massage place near the Holiday Inn last week and wanted to make a quick post about the experience before I forget.
I've posted about the location and type of service at this place, so do a search for more complete details but basically, it's an oily body massage with a HJ included for 158 RMB total but instead of just plain body massage, the girl spends about half the time massaging your body with their thighs.
That day I went, I got assigned #810, who is short and cute, probably better looking than any other gal I've had at that massage place. The problem is, she was tired, had a bad attitude, and basically didn't want to do the job or be there. I tried to fight the tide, but alas, I was washed over by her lameness and ended up with a decent (but not great) oily massage and a clinical HJ. Maybe if you get her earlier in the night (it was about 1:30am when I arrived, though that's never been a problem in the past) or you are up for a challenge, but be aware of what you're heading into if you see #810 walk into the room. You don't get lineups at this place, so it's luck/unluck of the draw, too.
I haven't written this place off yet, just this particular girl.
SF99
PS. One last thought, regarding massage girls in general, I've had a 100% success rate with getting sexual services from older massage women and I'm putting this out there as a general tip to other members. I feel like most of the time, I get the best massages from older (30+), less attractive masseuses, the ones nobody thinks of fucking. I guess they get little/no sexual interest from anyone else, so when you give them a little bit of flirtatious attention, it works wonders. And they are usually not expecting any big tip or cash injection at the end of things. You don't need to take them out for fun, for dinner, or anything and they usually aim to please. Nothing beats a great massage ending with a BBBJ finish, I say. Although it's kind of like getting a BJ from an aunt or someone similar at the end, ha ha.
To all of the Seniors,
Which hotel is the best tp provice this service in ZhuHai? I stayed at Chang An last time and they didnt have shit as far as internet goes. Anyone up for a mongering day on this Sunday?
Pls pm me if your free.
PC out
Member #4247
11-11-08, 13:42
In this past few weeks, I've asked many LHL girls & also checked with a few "manager" at several saunas in the Gongbei area. None of them have heard of your name or know any high spending Singaporean.
Guess all the money you have spent in Zhuhai aren't as much as you think. LOLObviously you are not in the top league nor has well connections. Stick to your stall mei mei and stop disgracing Singaporeans there
OldAsiaHand
11-12-08, 02:54
to all of the seniors,
which hotel is the best tp provice this service in zhuhai? i stayed at chang an last time and they didnt have shit as far as internet goes. anyone up for a mongering day on this sunday?
pls pm me if your free.
pc out
pc,
i stayed at the spring hotel last week and the internet speed was surprisingly fast. the room was good and the price was right. seems to be the best value on lhl nowadays.
just my pov.
oah
pc,
i stayed at the spring hotel last week and the internet speed was surprisingly fast. the room was good and the price was right. seems to be the best value on lhl nowadays.
just my pov.
oahoah,
many thanks! what was the rate please? last time i was in zhuhai, i was swarmed by sw all nite albeit it was raining real hard and maybe they were cold, lol. i did the chang an sauna and had a very cute little girl from a rural area that i forgot.
i will try the this hotel this weekend then as i need to internet in the room.
anyone in zh this weekend?
pc out
I've been a long time reader of this forum and I thought this holiday would be the highlight of my mongering career but judging from the recent posts I'm too late! Just my luck.
I'm staying at the Grand Bay View as I am splashing out a bit. Does anyone know if the Grand Bay View sauna is still offering FS during this crackdown? Anyone been there recently?
Panettone
From what I can tell, the crackdown has eased off. I was on LHL lastnight and the girls are back - albeit wrapped up now due to the cold weather. Old Chang An sauna appears to be back in service as the shutters were not down like they have been recently.
Gonna pop out now and see if theres any new meat on LHL.....
B888
Calvin Hobbs
11-12-08, 18:14
From what I can tell, the crackdown has eased off. I was on LHL lastnight and the girls are back - albeit wrapped up now due to the cold weather. Old Chang An sauna appears to be back in service as the shutters were not down like they have been recently.
Gonna pop out now and see if theres any new meat on LHL.....
B888I'm staying in Chang An next week. Where is Chan An sauna? Can you tell me about it?
I'm staying in Chang An next week. Where is Chan An sauna? Can you tell me about it?
Chang An sauna is literally around the corner from Chang An hotel - I've posted exact location details and a map not so long ago.
I drank at a bar opposite the entrance lastnight, the shutters were open and there was a girl standing outside but the lights upstairs looked off and I didn't see anyone venture up. No idea what the exact status of this joint is. Plenty of alternatives if it closed though...
B888
OAH,
Many thanks! What was the rate please? Last time I was in Zhuhai, I was swarmed by SW all nite albeit it was raining real hard and maybe they were cold, lol. I did the Chang An sauna and had a very cute little girl from a rural area that I forgot.
I will try the this hotel this weekend then as I need to internet in the room.
Anyone in ZH this weekend?
PC out
Went for a foot massage at the Spring hotel lastnight with a fellow ISG'er who was staying at the hotel. Very good service; we switched to a full massage for the second hour and it was just as good. As with most hotels with massage - the girls can come to your room to massage you. As far I know, this is a legit massage service only though. Think my friend paid circa 200 rmb for his basic room.
B888
Member #4247
11-13-08, 12:29
OAH,
Many thanks! What was the rate please? Last time I was in Zhuhai, I was swarmed by SW all nite albeit it was raining real hard and maybe they were cold, lol. I did the Chang An sauna and had a very cute little girl from a rural area that I forgot.
I will try the this hotel this weekend then as I need to internet in the room.
Anyone in ZH this weekend?
PC outI too get swarmed by the babes every time I'm there.
In fact the massage chicks having been calling my Singapore mobile non-stop since I returned.
Me famous in Zhuhai by now - James Chong aka 安仔, the generous top-earning property consultant from Singapore!
Anyway I will be in Zhuhai for my 8th trip this year!
OldAsiaHand
11-13-08, 13:02
OAH,
Many thanks! What was the rate please? Last time I was in Zhuhai, I was swarmed by SW all nite albeit it was raining real hard and maybe they were cold, lol. I did the Chang An sauna and had a very cute little girl from a rural area that I forgot.
I will try the this hotel this weekend then as I need to internet in the room.
Anyone in ZH this weekend?
PC out
PC,
We paid 308 RMB because of the Air Show in town, but we had the big corner double rooms. I think the single rooms are 198 and 228 RMB normally.
OAH
Friday night; a warmer evening than the last few nights and it appears as if it’s business as usual as far as the LHL chicks are concerned. At almost 4am I decide to call it quits on the drinking, get a bite to eat and get some shut eye. After my burger I start to feel “toey” as my Australian buddy puts it. I rifle through my list of LHL girl’s numbers and decide to call up Wun Wun who I had bumped into earlier in the day and who was the first LHL girl I did (see an earlier post for details). Ten minutes and she’s at the door, if only pizzas were this fast! While she was stripping, there’s the usual offers of overnight or a second girl, I declined both. She then tells me that I could add a second girl for an extra 100 rmb ! Too good to be true? Well I know business isn’t great for the LHL girls at the moment, you can tell this just by the number of punters drinking at the bars. 300rmb for 2 girls, I knew I would kick myself later if I didn’t take this offer up so I nodded to her. Second girl arrives; I’ve seen her on LHL but she’s never been one I considered doing – a high 5 at best for looks. But like I always say, I’ve paid a lot more for a lot worse. In the room, the girls start gossiping away furiously; one stripping while one is naked on the bed. I found it quite an amusing scenario really. In terms of the action, well I knew what I was going to get to be honest. I knew I was never going to get a porn film experience, especially at the price and definitely not from a pair of LHL girls. Both licked my nipples for a few minutes then took it in turns to blow me, I had semi hoped to get a proper double header BBBJ but I knew it was unlikely. I banged Wun Wun first, her on top then a bit of missionary. Change of condom, and then I banged the 2nd girl from behind with Wun Wun stroking my balls till I shot my load. Like I stated earlier, not a porn film experience by any stretch of the imagination and I doubt it was anywhere as good as SE A Joe’s duo session at Chang An Good World sauna. But.... 2 pairs of hands, 2 pairs of legs, 2 mouths and 2 pussies for 300rmb, I ain’t complaining!
B888
OldAsiaHand
11-15-08, 08:01
Friday night; a warmer evening than the last few nights and it appears as if it’s business as usual as far as the LHL chicks are concerned. At almost 4am I decide to call it quits on the drinking, get a bite to eat and get some shut eye. After my burger I start to feel “toey” as my Australian buddy puts it. I rifle through my list of LHL girl’s numbers and decide to call up Wun Wun who I had bumped into earlier in the day and who was the first LHL girl I did (see an earlier post for details). Ten minutes and she’s at the door, if only pizzas were this fast! While she was stripping, there’s the usual offers of overnight or a second girl, I declined both. She then tells me that I could add a second girl for an extra 100 rmb ! Too good to be true? Well I know business isn’t great for the LHL girls at the moment, you can tell this just by the number of punters drinking at the bars. 300rmb for 2 girls, I knew I would kick myself later if I didn’t take this offer up so I nodded to her. Second girl arrives; I’ve seen her on LHL but she’s never been one I considered doing – a high 5 at best for looks. But like I always say, I’ve paid a lot more for a lot worse. In the room, the girls start gossiping away furiously; one stripping while one is naked on the bed. I found it quite an amusing scenario really. In terms of the action, well I knew what I was going to get to be honest. I knew I was never going to get a porn film experience, especially at the price and definitely not from a pair of LHL girls. Both licked my nipples for a few minutes then took it in turns to blow me, I had semi hoped to get a proper double header BBBJ but I knew it was unlikely. I banged Wun Wun first, her on top then a bit of missionary. Change of condom, and then I banged the 2nd girl from behind with Wun Wun stroking my balls till I shot my load. Like I stated earlier, not a porn film experience by any stretch of the imagination and I doubt it was anywhere as good as SE A Joe’s duo session at Chang An Good World sauna. But.... 2 pairs of hands, 2 pairs of legs, 2 mouths and 2 pussies for 300rmb, I ain’t complaining!
B888
B888,
You experience is typical of what I get when I take 2 girls like that. I can count on less than one hand, the good doubles I have had in China. But, I keep on trying to match the one I had from sisters in a BBS in Qingyuan a couple of years back.
Call me selfish and uncaring, but I hate the change of condom. I guess it is the same as going bareback for the second girl, but it just kills the mood for me. That said, I very, very rarely get a pair to agree to one rubber.
Just my POV.
OAH
Don Mattingly
11-15-08, 08:06
Hello, first time poster, occasional reader here.
How are LHL & the spas during Chinese New Year? I hear a lot of girls head back home for the week (Jan 26).
Stupid me didn't check when CNY was before booking the flight. I was just so excited to return to "The Motherland" as my friend refers to it. This will be my fourth trip, and my friend's sixth, and two newbies will be accompanying us.
Would love to meet some fellow mongers for food, drinks, KTV, whatever. I'll bet that we've seen some of you and vice versa, from our previous trips. We might have even chatted at the umbrella bars.
Thanks!
E. T.
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