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Rich888
10-18-18, 16:04
I have been to the Waldo Hotel several times but only ever around every 12 months. Despite the girl (Nina 808) being the best I have had for many a year, the rest of the experience was rather depressing and just so expensive. I just walked up so did not have a 'package' - not sure what I would have saved if I had bought a package at the Hong Kong ferry terminal, as I have done in the past. The greeters were all very friendly and after a shower (the showers have been refreshed but nothing else has changed), I was shown to the main room that was near empty. Many more staff than punters. There was no 'assistance' with the shower as was a feature in the past with a short BBBJ if you were lucky. There were several bored looking girls waiting near the showers and one even walked over when I could not get the water to run hot but that's all.

After getting changed and comfortable, had a beer (extra) and a shoulder massage (extra) while waiting for the show. Got talking to a guy from Hong Kong who mentioned that the Chinese are not coming in the same numbers except on Friday and Saturday. I was there around 1930 on a Thursday. There is also a lot of competition around. The show was the same as a year ago. Some of the girls walk around and stop by each client for a bit of a feel and finishing on a short BBBJ but they obviously hate the whole experience. The girls then change and come back with more of the model types for a parade. Mostly Vietnamese and Chinese but I need a girl with some English so that restricted the selection. Anyway, I'd talked briefly with Nina as I walked in and she was definitely one of the best of the 20 girls in the parade. A few tall model types and a few very thin Chinese girls but the number and quality was way down on my previous visits. I guess if the clients are not there, the quality of the girls is also limited.

Anyway, the night improved from there. Nina was beautiful and had the most amazing breasts considering her petite size. Not too large but firm, round, perfectly shaped and real. A nice smile, some conversation (she is from Hanoi in Vietnam) and so enthusiastic. She was also nicely trimmed rather than being too hairy. My tastes are fairly straight and she delivered it all. A nice long BBBJ in the shower, she allowed me to go down on her with the necessary moaning (but not too much. She got very wet), more vigorous BJ, ball licking and rimming and general foreplay before even putting a condom on. She was also most enthusiastic in various positions until I came and then was happy to lie and chat for a while. The best overall girl and experience for a long time. I came away happy til I reached the desk on the way out.

Unfortunately, the cost was a real surprise MOP 2800 so this will be my last visit.

Travel Lucid
10-31-18, 11:00
Flying visit. Thanks CX for an unexpected cheap flight offer. Stayed at the Holiday Inn (not the Cotai one). Not expensive and convenient. But do not bother with the restaurant or swimming pool.

Holiday Spa was shut. Notices outside seems to be notifying of facility turn-off, so someone maybe not paying the bills. (My Portuguese is nill, and my Mandarin even worst.) So if this was not temporary, RIP Holiday Spa. And Windsor Spa for those that remember.

Usual visit to FNS. Really good time with usual thigh massage and massage ladies both in one evening! I never seem to make it to the working gals these days.

Visited Emperor Spa. I think I reviewed this place before and was not that impressed, but really enjoyed it this time. Spa area ladies are rather pushy, so be prepared. I had a Japanese Shower. Very good fun with a very chatty Viet.

A they have a 'butt massage', like a thigh massage, but the other way around, and it in a private room. Until you turn around that is. Very nice way to spend a few hours in the afternoon.

One Spa much the same. It well fitted out, welcoming staff. One of the ladies who I got to know ages ago seems still working there. Came to my hotel room the next day before work. A real blast. Some people just love f*king!

That is. Do not find myself in this part of the world that often these days. Thank god, I cannot afford it too often. But there is something about the easiness of having sex in Macau that I still like.

Maybe next time Jakarta.

StinkyFeet
10-31-18, 16:24
Unfortunately, the cost was a real surprise MOP 2800 so this will be my last visit.I stopped doing Macau saunas because the novelty isn't there anymore. This was back in 2012. I was a avid east spa customer from 2006 - 2010 but seeing the services decline, the Showtime is few and far between, the quantity and quality of girls are decline, and the last kicker the price increase from 1200 mop to 2600 mop excluding the BS 15% misc fee.

I don't know what it will take for the customers to stop going so east spa can either be forced to improve or shut down.

Captain Solo
11-12-18, 17:12
To Stinky feet.

I was not impressed with the quality of girls in saunas in Macau and Shenzhen. In about 2012 I was with a bunch of business friends and went to Queen's Spa in ShenZhen after dinner. Their line up was pretty poor at 8 PM. The girls wore fancy dresses but look homey, sad, depressing. The stars were more expensive just because they were taller, not more beautiful, but also looked old, homey and tired. I took one since there were no better choices. She went through the whole menu of suck, lick, fuck ect, but I was not sexually excited by her older and worn appearances.

But one time a friend took me to a sauna in a small town outside ShenZhen, called Dalien Business Resort, a five-star hotel with large rooms complete with a sauna, bath, large king bed and large screen TV. They had a stage and by 3 PM they started a fashion show, only half a dozen HK guys were there, drinking tea, ogling the girls. About 30 girls started parading in party dresses, most looked plain. I picked the yongest and hottest girls, she said 18 from ShenZhen. Her name was Xiao Xien, or Little Xien. It costed about $160 for 90 minutes, which included 2 shots.

She steamed, bathed me then we went to the bed for the massage and sex. She tookk care of me like a baby, did everything in the menu, including spreading toothpaste in my anus for a rim job. I really enjoyed her beauty and youthfulness. After the first shot, she steamed me again and blew me bareback to get me hard again. I started penetrating her bare back, shot again, but did not feel tired. Got to admit it felt good and rejuvenating. She made sure I understood that more shots would cost more money, but I liked her so much and felt so good that I quickly agreed. She blew me BB again and I did 2 more shots BB with her. Overall I did 4 shots with her in 90 minutes, still feeling wonderful, satisfied, energetic at the end. It was amazing how this young girl managed to coach 4 shots out of me in a short time. I would definitely spend money for those kinds of exquisite sexual pleasures.

She quickly exited the room at the end to go back to the line up for more business. I paid the resort about $240 for the session and went to their cafeteria for free chow mein and beers to recoup with my friend. A line of 8 male and female resort managers in suits walked pass my table, looking at the 4-shot monster with their conspiratory smiling hehe. Some of those female managers were in their mid 30's, wearing suit and skirt uniform like Asian flight attendants. They look nice, clean, smart, sexy enough to fuck.

That was my best sauna experience, well, the best sexual experience ever, 4 shots with the same sex partner feeling totally relaxed, rejuvenated. That young girl knew what she was doing and was better than 1,000 doctors. She could be the secret to livinglong and sexually strong. Don't know if Dalien Business Resort still operates but I wish I can find similar facilities with same girls and would definitely spend money for the same pleasures.

SpikeBites1
11-13-18, 06:32
Okay, let me preface this by saying that I didn't go at the optimal times for Macau. I was on a 3 day trip to HK for some business and had a free spare day, so I decided to hop on the ferry to Macau at 10 am from HK and I arrived at Cotai port. I was told to go to Lisboa Hotel which ended up being on the other side of Old Macau, so I took the bus to the other side and started wandering around Lisboa hotel looking for this "Racetrack" that my friends tell me about. I walked for an hour around both Lisboa hotels (they are across the street from each other), and no girls in sight. I was confused and annoyed I didn't see what Macau had to offer. But then I quickly realized it was probably the wrong time of day to be looking for girls since it was about 130 pm in the afternoon.

Then my friend told me to check out the Sauna at Rio Hotel which was a short 15-20 minute walk from Hotel Lisboa. My cell phone wasn't roaming properly so I had no access to internet only texts so I couldn't do any proper research about the Rio Sauna. I arrived at around 2 pm, and was given the rundown on how the sauna works. The man in front showed me a poster that had prices listed from about 6000 MOP, down to 1150 MOP. The 1150 MOP was basically just to use the shower / sauna / relaxation room. Or more or less the entry fee. Then they had a list of other items like, "Mainland China, Vietnamese, European Beauties, and all the way at the top Japan AV Porn Star. " I was like wow this seems interesting even though for the price its 4-5 x more expensive than what I usually experience in Tijuana's Hong Kong bar. So I went in, undressed and they told me to put on a robe and take a shower. After that is done, they escorted me into a room with nice comfortable chair beds, gave me a free drink and asked me to wait. Since it was only 2 pm, they said that "shows" don't start for another hour. So I waited, relaxing. While every 5 minutes someone different would come up to me offering to massage a specific body part of mine. Whether it be foot, legs, thighs, head, chest, pretty much everything. Then someone would ask if I wanted pedicure / manicure. I passed on all of that. I was already expecting to pay about 3500 MOP for a European beauty. I dislike Asian girls in general being Asian myself, and so I am basically tired of always eating rice.

So the first show starts and about 7 girls come out onto stage with rave music blaring. A few other guys grab some girls and off to the room they went. I didn't like any of the options since they were all mainlanders so the MMS told me that the next show was in 30 minutes. So I agreed and went back to my chair bed and waited again. 30 minutes pass and another show started. It was the same girls in addition to maybe 2 other mainlanders. By now it was 330 pm, and I knew I was screwed for time since I needed to be back in HK by 7 pm for a dinner meeting. I knew full well I still needed to visit a few places in Macau before heading back to HK so I reluctantly agreed to take a mainland Chinese girl back whom the MMS quoted 2800 MOP for. BTW, I asked the MMS when the European beauties would arrive and she then tells me 5 pm!! Ugh. I could've used that information earlier and avoided the place had I known no european girls would be available during my visit.

Anyways, I get escorted upstairs to room with this weird bathtub bed. This mainland asian girl spoke no English so I had to use my limited Mandarin to speak to her. It sucked. She leads me to this bathtub bed and starts to mix this white liquid which I was later told was Milk into this bathtub. She asked me to lay in the tub and begins to do a pseudo nuru massage rubbing her body against mine. I thought it was kind of meh. Useless really. Didn't enjoy it. I also didn't like the fact that she had boltons. Huge turn off. After the bath, back onto the bed we went and while I lay there she has this bucket placed next to the bed and what she ends up doing is taking a mouthful of ice water into her mouth and starts spitting and sucking it back into her mouth while kissing my body. It was a weird experience, but she would keep making this spitting sound into the bucket. That was a huge distraction. Then she did it while giving me a BBBJ, okay nice, Interesting I thought.

What I did like was the mirror on top of the bed. It was pretty cool to look down at myself while getting a blowjob. First time I've had that experience. So, after that weird water sucking thing, she started giving me a handjob. I was trying to finger her while she did that but she wouldn't allow it. UGH. WTF. After a bit of coaxing, she agreed but only after she stuck a condom on my fingers LOL. Well, I was already annoyed about the experience and the fact that I dislike mainland Chinese girls, it was very hard for me to get hard let alone stay hard. She finally got me up and slapped the condom on. After a few minutes I lost my chubby and she got off, and started stroking me to completion.

After the first pop, she told me that I am allowed two pops for 80 minutes total. (forgot to mention that was told to me as we were walking up to the room, but I didn't understand it properly because the MMS' English was very bad). So the girl said we can go again but I told her that I was already pressed for time and I needed to leave. She said fine, and we both got dressed. As I was getting ready to pay, they all notice that I was in and out very quickly and asked if anything was wrong. I told them that I had to leave because I have other plans. He gave me the bill and it came out to be 4800 MOP! I'm like WTF. I was expecting to pay 2800 for the mainland Chinese girl, which was already about $400 USD, which is clearly overpriced compared to what we pay here in Socal or Tijuana, and now my bill was 4800 MOP which is about 600-700 USD! I asked the manager how did it become so expensive. He basically explained that it was $2800 for the girl, along with like $600 MOP for the "milk bath" which I didn't request or even agree to. And there was another charge for something, I don't remember but the total came out to 4800. So basically I paid 6-700 USD for one pop and a subpar experience. Then to make matters worse, I asked the manager why there were no European girls, and he told me they don't come in until 8 pm!

So yeah, I would've been even more upset if I waited til 5 pm for the euro girls and none showed up until 8 pm. I was already late enough as it is. So lesson learned, don't venture into Macau to monger during the daytime. Only go during the evenings. And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.

Member #4698
11-15-18, 13:12
So lesson learned, don't venture into Macau to monger during the daytime. Only go during the evenings. And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.That is it in a nutshell. Prime time Rio Sauna (8 pm to 11 pm) is a totally different place from the afternoon Rio Sauna you described. For starters there are at least 70 to 80 girls in the lineup with some major stunners. I was not impressed with Rio's collection of Euro girls, however, but many of the Asian girls were quite outstanding and true "model" quality. In my opinion November 2018 Rio Sauna had a better looking lineup of girls than I had seen in comparable bordellos in Bangkok (La Belle & the Lord) or in Jakarta (Malioboro & 1001 Hotel) this trip. More expensive too. 555.

The hottest Rio girls, IMHO, were in the Chinese Super Model and Korean Model category. Familia Nobre currently has a gorgeous Ukrainian Model who is a real stunner. I was tempted to take her even though I never go for Caucasian girls in Asia, but her price was astronomical (4400 mop). Maybe you should have gone to FN if Caucasian was what you were looking for. The milk massage at Rio is not worth the time or money as you describe, but in all my visits to Rio, I have always been asked if I wanted it and it was never foisted on me. Perhaps you should have RTFF a little more carefully before venturing forth. LIve and learn I guess.

Macau prices Are exorbitant. I suffered sticker shock my first night back due to the fact that since my last visit in 2016 prices have soared 35%. The amazing thing, however, is both Rio and Familia Nobre still have plenty of customers, mostly Chinese and I was in Macau from Sunday night to Friday morning. I would imagine that on weekends both places are jam packed with few lounge chairs free. I don't blame the sauna for the price hike. I believe the price increases go straight to payoffs of government and police officials in order to stay in business. P.S. the police closed down the Lisboa Racetrack a couple of years ago. I miss that set up. It was entertaining to watch all the eye candy, Lions Bar in the MGM is gone as well. That used to be a good place to pick up high quality Indo FL's. And MP3 is gone as well or maybe it just moved. I am not sure.

I bought a Rio Sauna one year membership my 1st night back for 80 or 90 mop. This entitled me to 300 mop off the price of any girl and 1 free massage of my choice each and every night including a thigh massage. In addition, as a member if I wechatted the manager before coming, he would send a sauna limo to my hotel to pick me up and I would get an additional 300 mop off my girl, any girl. Thus the Rio membership was worth 900 mop per visit. Rio prices were still high, but the prime time girls are amazingly hot and service is excellent, at least in my recent experience this November. My trip report will follow shortly.

Joe Karnavic
11-22-18, 01:22
It was cloudy and cool afternoon in Macau as we reached to our Ferry terminal by Cotai ferry. The Ferry Terminal looked better than my last visit in 2014. Bigger halls and Immigration was smooth, no questions asked. There were less tourists in the hall. Maybe it was working day or the business was slow no way of knowing. We took taxi to our hotel Rio. The taxi drivers in Macau hardly speak English so I carry hotel booking paper which has Hotel name in mandarin script which he understood.

I have been planning this trip for some time, done RTFF many times. My last visit I did Sauna18 which was great experience. I still can not forget group of Japs in bathrobe with laptops in some intense discussion and then suddenly jumping up and running when the showtime bell goes off. Wish we had such corporate comradery LOL.

This trip I had important friend who never been to Asia and I wanted him to have best experience. Many previous posts by seniors helped but Natty Bumpo had many good informative post on Macau Saunas. Thanks to you sir. I went back reading his posts till September 2017 which helped in making decision. His recommendation on all Saunas was useful. He quoted " *I recommend Rio if you are looking for the hottest Chinese, "Japanese & Korean" girls. " So it has to be Rio, since we had one Friday night and less time to try different saunas. I booked Rio hotel so that we don't have to move out of hotel.

After checking in at 1 pm we went to have look at Rio Sauna, there was not much happening there. The guy told us the best time to come there is about 7 pm when we can see their best talent. We went out walking to Sanado square, So many tourists were walking around the square. Old Macau buildings has distinctive Portuguese influence, this country being their colony for hundreds of years. We had Portuguese food in Boa Mesa which was delicious. The octopus, grilled cod was delicious, a good Portuguese red added to our holiday mood in Macau. We came back to hotel, rested well and met downstairs at 6. 30 pm.

As soon as we entered the Sauna a guy in suit who spoke good English took us in the hall where showtime has just started. It was crowded with mostly Chinese and few of us foreigners. There were 50-60 stunning girls in line up which was constantly moving. Chinese, Japanese and Koreans were most beautiful in the lineup, there were Russians and East European as well. We felt like kids in toyshop bewildered at the huge choice of pretty girls to play around. Prices quoted were from 3100 mop to 4000 mop. Natty Bumpo was right in saying that prices have gone up in last few years. I remember we paid 1800 in 2014 at Sauna 18 for Viet girl. As Natty has said it may be to cover bribes to be paid to local officials to keep business going. It is also may be because of the fact that Chinese economy has done well in recent years and young people, executives, businessmen have surplus income to splurge on everything. Branded Watches and Jewelry prices in Macau and HK were much higher as compared to other fashion capitals of world. Inspite of that the places were busy.

The quality of girls were model like, tall sexy and beautiful. We decided on tall sexy Chinese girls. The lineup was constantly moving, not enough space on stage. I told my friend to find the girl who looks into your eyes and gives you slight smile. I chose no 285 with name Happy and he chose Lulu. Both girls were young, tall and pretty. Happy could speak some English which was a surprise. She was holding my hand as we walked into the hall. The Chinese man was saying very good choice etc maybe his usual sales pitch. We were ushered in the lounge and asked to wait till the rooms are prepared. In 15 minutes we walked to the room and there she was wearing sexy black lingerie She hugged me and I moved my hand over her body. She had tight ass and body of a young woman. The vibes were good. She was less than 21 years of age but refused to tell me her exact age, she had nice laugh of a teenager and was really a Happy person. She removed her lingerie She had medium natural breasts and smooth shapely body. She asked me to wait till she prepared the bath. There were mirrors on the ceiling and porn movie was on creating an erotic atmosphere. The bath was big rectangle tub made into bed with mattress soaked in warm water. I was asked to lie face down which I did slowly because things were getting slippery. The feeling of warm water was soothing and I was enjoying it. She used hand shower with soap to wash my back which was relaxing. She then applied nuru kind of gel and started sliding on my back, could feel her tits in my ass crack and sliding upward, she was good at it. I was rock hard and worried that I may puncture the mattress haha. The slide continued then she soaped my back with fragrant soap foam and washed me again. She asked me to turn which I was sure waiting for. I turned over and grabbed her wet sexy body, what a pleasure to run hands all over her firm natural medium tities and round ass of a young girl. She put foam and started sliding, she was pure delight to watch breathing down my neck with her wet hair and beautiful face smiling and giggling as her north south slide continued especially titillating the erogenous zones. It was a Nirvana moment. She allowed me to touch and put fingers carefully in her wet tight snatch. She was humming while I was enjoying the feel of her pussy. She now started moving from my toes upward slowly licking everything, first she moved her tongue all over my balls holding the fully erect mast and then she started a slow BBBJ. It was really good. She then gave me what is now standard in saunas here ice / fire blowjob. First cool mint like liquid in her mouth and then warm water alternating to give blowjob. It is different enjoyable in part but did not enjoy much may be because she was spitting in between. Next course was warm milk treatment. Warm milk was poured over my legs, cock, balls upto chest. She then licked it slowly slurping the milk. She was now focusing on my cock, she gave wonderful blowjob slurping that milk, She repeated milk and gave blowjob again this time it was deep throat. It was slow and I could see it in the mirror above. I was on the edge and did not want to blow it there. I stopped her and said I want now to fuck her because the mast is at it's largest. She giggled. On to the bed, she expertly put the condom. I went down and sucked her, she smelled and tasted young, sweet. She seems to be enjoying the DATY. I took her in mish, she guided me well into her after she put some lube saying you are not big but large. She must have seen bigger cocks than mine but they must be saying to feel you better and get harder LOL. She spread her legs and I humped for good amount of time longer than normally I last. It was very satisfying sex in mish, I even did not change the position. It was the perfect fit in her tight young snatch. It took me long time to come but stayed hard and large for sometimes before I collapsed on top of her as she was holding me affectionately. She again washed me thoroughly. We had 5 minutes left to one hour mark. I told her to give me foot massage which was good.

She walked me to the hall and left me at the entrance with hug and smile. I saw my friend was on lounge chair with one Viet in red top giving him Thai massage and other one shoulder massage. He was beaming with happiness. He told me repeatedly that this was his best sauna experience. He could not stop talking about his girl Lulu. I was pleased that he has thoroughly enjoyed the experience. As soon as I was on the lounge chair the Massage girls, the nail cutter man started pestering me. I anyway wanted thigh massage. I had some good memories of it from Sauna18. I said yes to pretty viet for thigh massage and ohhh she was so good. She had that sexy look in her eyes when she massaged my cock under the towel with cream. She made me hard with her nice hand motion around twigs and berries. It is fun to do this under the towel in public area. There were other viet girls with tight skirt showing their ass. The were deliberately bending near the counter to entice men relaxing on lounge chairs. My Viet girl was teasing me into taking one more girl since I was hard and large under the towel LOL. But we did not take another girl, we were happy and we left. The total damage per person with extra services like thigh massage, pedicure, shoulder massage was about 3800 mop.

We went to Cotai strip by taxi. The strip has changed a lot since my last visit. Walked from Sands, Parisian to Venetian and visited all casinos. They were massive with thousands of Mainland Chinese having great time, it was noisy and impressive interiors. Between Parisian and Venetian saw many SW mostly Chinese. They were approaching everyone boldly. One good looking girl got hold of my hand and said 1000 , one hour boom boom!! Some SW were doable, some looked Vietnamese. I am not sure about this SW, I will still stay with Saunas. Sad to know the Lisboa race track is closed. In last visit we stayed at Lisboa and watched those well dressed pretty Chinese girls walking in shopping arcade. We sat in corner caf and watched the fun. 30-40 girls constantly walking. It was unique.

Yes, Macau has become expensive and there are many better options but Macau Sauna leaves good memory. I did FKKs, Bangkok fishbowls, Barcelona incall places with Jacuzzi. Each has it's own charm. But there is something about Macau Saunas which makes me feel going back again. A concept of total Girl friendly experience with prettiest girls, options of thigh massage, pedicure, manicure, shoulder massage etc under one roof.

My friend said it is full service in real sense. He was the happiest man and could not stop talking about it even at 38000 feet standing at bar with drink as we flew back. !!

Tallitguy
12-06-18, 00:01
Any advice on doing the Rio Spa on a Sunday vs a Monday? Is Monday a day off for many of the girls?

(I could potentially do Saturday, but my guess is it's super crowded then?

My #2 pick is the One Sauna at Landmark, any compelling reason to choose this over the Rio for my first sauna try? I do like a good pool / spa & I absolutely hate being pestered / upsold.

Thanks!

FictionalSpace
12-09-18, 03:56
Quick question for those with more Macau experience than me. Trying to get a visit in today and interested in starting at Hou Va for some savings. Does anyone know what time they open and if going around lunchtime on a Sunday is a bad decision?

FictionalSpace
12-09-18, 12:08
Visited Hou Va today, arriving around 2 pm. Was greeted by papasan who summoned two girls and walked me through the menu. Pricing was 698 or 988-ish for the regular and model girls, respectively. I chose the mode girl because she was definitely in the upper tier looks department. Alas, service was mechanical. It got the job done, but I wasn't impressed with her or the facilities. Glad I stopped in, but next time I'll pony up more dough for a sauna experience.

Horny Cock
12-13-18, 13:36
I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.

Globalnomad5
12-16-18, 16:58
I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.Centro Massagens Eléctrico Hou Va.

Rua de Ferreira do Amaral 19.

Across the part from Park Royal hotel.

Horny Cock
12-22-18, 06:27
Is it possible to take out a girl at night from Hou Va paying the sauna for one-hour charge and then ask her to stay overnight with me?

Red Rider
01-10-19, 03:25
Is it possible to take out a girl at night from Hou Va paying the sauna for one-hour charge and then ask her to stay overnight with me?You can take them out for a surcharge. But I suspect that they are "on duty" for the establishment all evening and most of the night.

Lefeu
01-10-19, 09:12
...started wandering around Lisboa hotel looking for this "Racetrack" that my friends tell me about. I walked for an hour around both Lisboa hotels (they are across the street from each other), and no girls in sight...First, that was a nice, detailed report. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

Too bad you did not know that the racetrack has been closed for a few years now. Whoever sent you there should have known that.


....And in terms of service and selection, to me at least the Hong Kong bar in Tijuana is a much better experience and more affordable.I would agree that the Hong Kong club in Tijuana can be more affordable, but better experience? I doubt it. I have visited both locations, many times, and I always found the sauna experience in Macau superior. In addition, I always end up spending more money at the HK club, when I add up the drinks for the girl and other miscellaneous fees.

Pistons
01-12-19, 23:55
I used to frequent Macau a lot between 2011 and 2014, but have since stayed away. My favourite saunas's were 18, Emperor, FN, East and Sanado (closed now. I was the last day it existed too). Never liked Rio girls except one due to excessive facial surgeries sending them far into the uncanny valley. One one Rio girl was hot in 3-4 years.

But the prices back then was 1800-2200 for a coupon bought at shun take ferry terminal, and there were no reason to buy more than that.

1. How is the prices for lets say 18 sauna and Familia Nobre now? And do you always have to pay more than the initial coupon price even if you go for the short chinese 1 XX girls at 18 sauna?

2. Do they still handpick out the prettiest 9-10 girls in all these saunas and keep them away from the saunas and into the racist KTV's that only show the pretty ones to local Chinese men? And then ugly 1-5's to the foreigners such as happened to me both at Golden Dragon (18 sauna), and at 8 different changping KTV's and Bangkok KTV's? Or is the racism on retreat?

Member #4698
01-15-19, 20:22
Hey Pistons, if you have not been to Macau since 2014 you are in for a real sticker shock. I had not there since 2016 and upon my return in November 2018 I found prices were up 25% across the board in all the Saunas. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, given this is Macau, the increased prices seem to have no effect on consumer demand. The saunas I visited in prime time were full of customers. There were no racial incidents of any kind. No girls were held back from showtime lineup. I had the opportunity to select whoever I wished. Usually I was the only Caucasian present and I was always treated very well, especially in Rio Sauna, were the manager took me aside the 1st night and told me about the advantages of becoming a Rio Club member and the substantial cost savings: 300 mop off the price of any girl, 300 mop off any service including thigh massage. (Essentially a free massage), and an additional 300 mop off the bill any time I called ahead and requested a limo pick up from my hotel.

Rio had the best-looking girls this trip. Their model category Chinese and Korean girls were top quality (8 plus *). Familia Nobre had a super model quality 8. 5* Ukrainian girl and some very attractive 7. 8 * Singapore and Taiwanese girls

Familia Nobre Prices:

Vietnamese girls - 2588 mop.
Chinese girls - 2788 mop.
Taiwan / Singapore girls - 3088 mop.
Australian / EUR/ Russian - 3888 mop.
Chinese Model - 4088 mop.
Japanese / Korean / Ukranian Model - 4588 mop.

(Note: taking any FN girl above entitles customers to a free massage of any kind including a thigh massage.).

Rio Sauna Prices:

Vietnamese girls - 2120 mop.
Chinese girls - 3008 mop.
Asian Model - 3121 mop.
European girl - 3232 mop.
Emperor Model (Chinese Model / Korean girl) - 3442 mop.
Japanese / Korean Super Model - 4537 mop.

(Note: with the purchase of a 90 mop Rio Membership there is automatic 300 mop off any girl listed above & on all future visits for 1 year, 300 mop credit for any massage service, plus an additional 300 mop off any girl when a free limo pickup is ordered in advance. So, a Chinese Emperor Model is 2842 mop with membership and that includes a free thigh massage before or afterwards.).

So, are these crazy prices justified? No. Of course not. Are the Chinese, Korean, Singapore, Taiwan models beautiful? Some are, yes and a few are spectacular. Did I have a good time (5 nights / 7 girls)? You better believe I did. Am I planning to return? Not in 2019. I plan to focus on BKK, RGN, CGK, and MNL. But I don't rule out a 2020 visit. LOL. I was very happy with my 2 Rio Chinese models and my Familia Nobre Singapore girl. In fact, I repeated twice with one of my Rio Chinese girls and with my FN Singapore girl. I liked them both so much. I am still in contact with my favorite Chinese model although I doubt I will ever see her again. Sadly I bungled the WeChat profile set up and lost my Singapore girl's number. It would have been fun to see her again in Singapore one day. Looking back, I wish I had done one of Rio's Korean models, one in particular was super sexy, and that FN Ukranian girl was unbelievably hot! I still think about that one with her tall, thin, body with large natural tits, blond hair and a very beautiful face. Oh La La! But Ukranian's price WAS astronomical. So that is Macau 2019. LOL. My advice is don't go there unless you are willing and able to pay up for top quality and enjoy the place.

Rick Rock
01-16-19, 02:39
Hey Pistons, if you have not been to Macau since 2014 you are in for a real sticker shock. I had not there since 2016 and upon my return in November 2018 I found prices were up 25% across the board in all the Saunas. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, given this is Macau, the increased prices seem to have no effect on consumer demand. The saunas I visited in prime time were full of customers. There were no racial incidents of any kind. No girls were held back from showtime lineup. I had the opportunity to select whoever I wished. Usually I was the only Caucasian present and I was always treated very well, especially in Rio Sauna, were the manager took me aside the 1st night and told me about the advantages of becoming a Rio Club member and the substantial cost savings: 300 mop off the price of any girl, 300 mop off any service including thigh massage. (Essentially a free massage), and an additional 300 mop off the bill any time I called ahead and requested a limo pick up from my hotel.Great field report! Thanks for the price list, rarely seen anymore. Very interesting that FN now seems to be more expensive than Rio. That seems like a complete reversal from the past. So what happened here? FN raised their prices a lot while Rio only raised theirs a little? I believe FN has a membership program too.

Rick Rock
01-16-19, 02:42
I will be visiting soon. Where is Hou Va sauna? Tried the advanced search and google map but don't find the address. Thanks.As an experiment, I just went to Google and searched "hou va massage macau". The first ten results were about Hou Va and at least half showed the location of the place. One result was from this very forum.

ElChantor
01-19-19, 15:35
Had a lot of trouble deciding which sauna to visit. Rio, FN. Finally decided on 18 Spa in the Golden Dragon hotel. A local man I met on the plane waxed enthusiastically about this place, so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm actually writing this report from their dining area.

After heading up to 6th floor of the Casino building (not the hotel building), if you look legit they'll open the door for you. Go in to locker area where they will show you the price list for everything while you're changing. I was a bit sticker shocked, but I saw another bro below post the prices for FN and Rio, and they are the same at 18 Spa. Methinks the spas have informally gotten together the price fix their services.

Next is the hot pool area where you can take a nice soak. Other services on offer are they wash you and body scrub. I declined as most of the service women were old and around a 3/10. A few 6/10 with nice bodies, but I prefer to spend my money on other services.

After soaking and taking a shower three of the Viet girls proceeded to help me change. They then tried to ask for a tip and were extremely aggressive. They are 4's and 5's out of 10, so I recommend completely ignoring them. If they latch on to you just forcefully pull away. This really turned me off, but fortunately, this was the only point in my visit where this happened.

Next, the lounge room. It's large and spacious, with many sections. They have a lot of free drinks and food on the menu, so sit back, relax and order something. I arrived around 7 pm and service was nearly non-existent. The busy time hadn't started yet so most of the lounge girls were just chatting with themselves and ignoring the few customers sitting there. Once 8 pm hit there were a lot of guys there and the girls were actively moving around asking guests if they wanted extra services. I got a little cutie to give me the inner thigh massage, and another to hit me up with a neck massage.

On to selection, every 30 minutes, they'll have 5 girls dancing on some second floor platform in the hot pool area, then 50+ girls will come out and line up. Chinese, Viet, Koreans, Japanese, and a few Russian / Ukrainian looking foreigners. The foreign girls were at best 7's in my book but the Asian girls ranged from 7 to near perfect 10! This place has a huge selection. I caught the eye of a cutie immediately, but decided to relax for a bit. After watching two more line ups, I finally picked her out. She was of the "Chinese model" level, around 2700 HKD. Short hair, beautiful big eyes, great smile, nice skin.

The rest is pretty standard for anyone who's been to a spa so I'll skip to the action. Great tit / pussy rub and cat bath, then on to one of the best BBBJ I've ever had. She tried to mount me at that point but I told her to wait as I knew I'd blow my load too quickly. We proceeded to kiss and neck a bit, then she mounted. After a bit of cowboy I turn her around for doggy, then flip her over for missionary. At this point she's already naturally wet and I decide to go down on her. She allows and I eat her box for a good 5 minutes while she's moaning crazy and clenching my hand so tight it almost hurts! Finally I go back in and finish her in missionary.

All in all, a great session. Not quite GFE, but close. Definitely knows her stuff and knows how to please.

If sauna prices across the city are on par with each other these days, then I highly recommend 18 Spa just for the sheer selection and excellent service. You won't be disappointed! Note YMMV. I am of Chinese descent and speak nearly fluent Mandarin, and basic Cantonese.

Rick Rock
01-21-19, 03:43
Good report. Chinese usually gets you better service. I used to think 18 was overrated and too expensive. You're right that prices went up in a lot of other saunas though, so now it's getting close to parity. I still think there are better options for your Patacas, but glad you enjoyed.

ElChantor
01-25-19, 13:35
After my romp at 18 Sauna, I decided to book a room at the Masters Macau. For those of you who don't know this hotel, it's the perfect place to stay. It's right on the edge of Senado Square with great food options around. The rooms are cozy, well appointed, and some of the cheapest you'll find in the city. But best of all Darling 1 is located on the third floor (via a separate elevator).

Darling 1 is not a sauna. You can't spend the night there, and there is no showering or hot pool area or other services such as body scrub. It's a classic "fishbowl" style massage parlor. You go in, get your massage, then leave.

Take the Darling 1 elevator to the third floor and as soon as you step in you'll see all the girls sitting in the center for your viewing pleasure. I went up there and some rude mamasan tried to push girls on me without explaining anything. I looked them over for a few minutes then decided to go for dinner instead. She was pissed and said something vulgar as I left. I came back a few hours later and a nice gentleman sat me down and explained everything to me.

They have two price levels. Regular girls wearing heart-shaped tags are 1800 MOP for 75 min. "Model" girls wear stars and are 2120 MOP for 75 min. All come with full service and one shot. For me, the models are simply taller girls, not necessarily prettier. Viet, Thai, and Chinese girls are distinguished by the color they wear, but there is no price difference between them.

I spotted a bubbly looking heart wearing cutie in the back and went for her. Her heart color indicated she was Vietnamese (blue I think). She spoke limited English but decent Mandarin so we got along just fine.

The rooms here are enormous and far better than their sauna counterparts. Large heart shaped bed with mirrors all around and on the ceiling. Gigantic bathroom with a huge triangle shaped hot tub. Only downside is absolutely no smoking anywhere on the premises.

Not going to to go into too much detail on the service, but catbath, BBBJ, rimming, all kinds of shenanigans in the hot tub with lots of bubbles, then finally onto the FS in multiple positions until the end. Service was excellent and on par with the more expensive sauna places, just without all the extra frills. The girl really seemed to like me and gave me good GFE. I even ended up with her Wechat contact afterwards.

Girls are just a notch lower in quality than the saunas, but I think most bros won't have any problem finding someone they like here.

Rick Rock
01-26-19, 03:25
The rooms here are enormous and far better than their sauna counterparts. Depends on the sauna and how much you pay. Some saunas have fantastic big beautiful rooms.


Only downside is absolutely no smoking anywhere on the premises.Many would call that an upside. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/31/smoking-declines-around-world-countries-set-miss-targets-report/.

Good report.

K3936
01-26-19, 14:03
Centro Massagens Elctrico Hou Va.

Rua de Ferreira do Amaral 19.

Across the part from Park Royal hotel.Found this pretty easily thanks. Went in about 2 PM, 4 Vietnamese girls available all nice looking, no English to speak of. Took the youngest looking one #203. Very slim firm body, pretty face and good attitude. Would repeat. The place is pretty run down though. 900 HK for 1 hour 1 pop.

Rick Rock
01-27-19, 01:44
Found this pretty easily thanks. Went in about 2 PM, 4 Vietnamese girls available all nice looking, no English to speak of. Took the youngest looking one #203. Very slim firm body, pretty face and good attitude. Would repeat. The place is pretty run down though. 900 HK for 1 hour 1 pop.I remember not long ago the price was just half that. The world really is changing. Anyway, did she have baby damage? Every time I try there they unfortunately do.

Turgid
01-27-19, 19:57
............... Do they still handpick out the prettiest 9-10 girls in all these saunas and keep them away from the saunas and into the racist KTV's that only show the pretty ones to local Chinese men? And then ugly 1-5's to the foreigners such as happened to me both at Golden Dragon (18 sauna), and at 8 different changping KTV's and Bangkok KTV's? Or is the racism on retreat?You got me stumped with the Changping bit. I can't recall ever being deprived of seeing certain girls at CP KTVs; however, I was charged more than Chinese punters for similar service.

FLT09
01-31-19, 16:02
Heading to Macau tomorrow and will spend my share of time in Rio. This might be a dumb question but I read something on another site which got me confused. Are the thigh massages in the lounge to completion? Like I said, probably a dumb question but always like to know what I am getting into. Thanks.

FLT09
02-01-19, 16:11
Dove right in and got the answers I was looking for. Solid first day. Hit up the MGM and made my sauna money with some blackjack. Sauna with house money makes it so much more enjoyable. Did a few massages. The thigh massage from Shelly, can't remember her number but a real fun girl. Took her to the private room after my round with the girl I chose. Had a good time with her and always nice to not have to do any work for the second go around.

For the girl, I went with a Viet girl Yun, 917. She is 26 but looks 18. Amazing body and great attitude. Would definitely spend more time with her but so many others to choose from. I do like having opposite preferences to the Chinese clientele. All the most expensive girls they like aren't my type so keeps the price down. Took the number of a nice looking Chinese girl that I will go back for tomorrow. Got the card as well since you basically get 600 off each visit so a no brainier there. Also staying at Rio was a good choice. Plenty of offers for a late night rendezvous but quite tired from the events. Will capitalize on that before I go.

I planned on checking out some others but knowing me, when I find something I like I usually just stick with it. FN might be the only one I go for if I make it out of Rio.

Thanks for all the info on here from others, definitely RTFF before I arrived and it was quite useful.

Not much of a report I know, I don't really go crazy in the room and just let the girl do her thing. Yun was a blast though, great personality and everytime time the lineup walked past the rest of the night her and her friends kept on flirting which is always fun.

Saunas have always been my favorite form of entertainment and Rio tops the list to this point.

Member #4698
02-01-19, 18:13
For the girl, I went with a Viet girl Yun, 917. She is 26 but looks 18. Amazing body and great attitude. Would definitely spend more time with her but so many others to choose from. I do like having opposite preferences to the Chinese clientele. All the most expensive girls they like aren't my type so keeps the price down. <snip> Saunas have always been my favorite form of entertainment and Rio tops the list to this point.FLT09, that's a good update on Rio. Sounds like you had a great time. Coincidently it goes hand in hand with what I posted to a Jakarta buddy about the Viet's in Macau a few days ago.


if you like Vietnamese girls, I think you would still enjoy Macau and your best bet would be to visit Darling 1 which operates like a Thai soapy massage parlor. Your 2nd best option would be to visit Rio Sauna or Familiar Nobre Sauna to check out their very large line up of Viet girls. These two bordellos are the best saunas in Macau and appropriately priced as such, BUT like I said previously, the Viet's are at the lowest price point so it might be a real bargain for you Viet lovers, relatively speaking. Ha Ha.Unfortuntaley for me, I can't resist a few of the Chinese and Korean super models in Rio. They are great girls and a lot of fun in the room, but their price is stratospheric. Either way, Viet or NE Asian, stay thisty and rock on!

FLT09
02-02-19, 02:01
Unfortuntaley for me, I can't resist a few of the Chinese and Korean super models in Rio. They are great girls and a lot of fun in the room, but their price is stratospheric. Either way, Viet or NE Asian, stay thisty and rock on!There is definitely some lookers. Might splurge one of the days as I do like the tall long legged ones they have. Another successful day at MGM will make the choice easier of course haha. I have 3 more days, will definitely update with the route I take each day.

Rick Rock
02-02-19, 13:13
Heading to Macau tomorrow and will spend my share of time in Rio. This might be a dumb question but I read something on another site which got me confused. Are the thigh massages in the lounge to completion? Like I said, probably a dumb question but always like to know what I am getting into. Thanks.Not usually. They just keep you stimulated for the time period allotted. Some of them will finish you off if you ask though. I think it's "allowed" after the third thigh massage, or if you pay extra. But I once had a Viet I repeated with many times over a week get me off for free once. She actually dared me not to cum. I almost won until she started with some cork screw maneuvering!

FLT09
02-09-19, 07:21
Finished up the trip in good fashion. Had 4 nights and spent all of them at Rio. Walked past a number of the others while on the way to the casinos but being that Rio was the hotel I was staying at and the first night went well, I just stuck with it out of convenience. It was also pretty empty since it was Chinese New Year weekend so I had almost free reign of the place. I good see the lineup and go sit down with a list of numbers to decide and whenever I was ready the girl would be ready since no one else was there to pick them. Second and third night I went with Chinese girls, 257 and 269 respectively. 257 was cute and spoke some English. She was a nice girl and easy to get along with. However, she lacked in her shower skills. I know some don't care about that but it is why I like Saunas over escorts. I absolutely love soapy massages. Still, very pretty and a fun time. The next night I went for one of the girls that looked more experienced, 269, and I was right in my observation. She was a blast. Very skilled in every aspect of the experience and a lot of fun. She spoke a lot of English which always helps. She also asked if I wanted another go during the time for 300 more which I agreed and enjoyed. I would see all of them again but I love variety, although I would slightly regret that at the end.

The last night I went Vietnamese again, picking 919. She was newer to the sauna but very pretty, a little older but had a great smile and had been staring at me every night. She has the fake bolt ONS which I am not a fan of at all but she seemed interested so that always leads to a good experience. We get in the room and she asked if her friend good join, 918. All the Viet girls had been eyeing me and joking with me the first 3 nights and I wanted a go with each one. I asked how them perform together and she said well and she was coming off very freaky so I agree. The second girl is discounted 500. I already had a 600 discount each night by getting the card, 300, and having them pick me up in their car from a different hotel, 300. So the 2 of them was still cheaper than their model girls. 918 comes in and she is even crazier. They get a long great and I the soapy massage was the best one I have had, and I have had many. Go to the bed and they take turns on me. They play with each other a little but they focused on me. If you had the 2 of them in your hotel, it would be a wild time. If it wasn't my last night, I probably would have arranged that. After the first round, time was running short, they asked if I wanted to go again, but I just wanted to get of another shot with a BBBJ and strapping up again would take a long time, which I didn't have. 918 wasn't begging for anal but time wasn't allowing it. Finished up with them and headed back out to the lounge to relax.

3 nights I got a HJ finish as well. If you get 5 thigh massages then you go to one of the side rooms and get the finish. I did it at the end of each night so the girls definitely had to work. Had a really run girl the first night but she was gone the next 2 nights. Got a little younger and cuter girl instead who was great. Great way to relax and chat while getting a great massage. Getting the 5 massages gives you 2 hours with the girl and you can use all of the time at your leisure. Also, with the card you get 1 free massage of your choice each visit and the first visit after you visit you get an additional 4 free massages. So basically, the first trip to the room can be free.

The last night I went out of my hotel around 3 and that is when all the girls are leaving. This is a great time to see the real difference in the girls. I saw all the models after they washed off all their makeup and it is night and day, which is obvious, but with Chinese and Korean girls it really sticks in the back of your head when seeing them in the lineups. They are a lot older most of the time and tend to be more mechanical. I spent a lot of time in Korea so those type of girls don't interest me. After I saw them, a few of the Viet girls left, including 917 the girl from the first night. This is where the regret crept in. She was in her normal clothes and was absolutely stunning. Looked even better on the street than in the sauna all dressed up. Made me wish I went another night with her and exchanged some information. She was always the best looking to me in the lineup, but I can't help myself being a butterfly.

All in all, great getaway. I went for a relaxing weekend of gambling and sauanas and that was accomplished. My feet feel great from all the foot massages which were much needed given the amount I walk in dress shoes. I know some people talk about the price increases and what not and how it is getting expensive but I think the price is fine. I had a lot of fun each night and the most I spent, which was the last night with 2 girls, was under 5000 hkd. Most places aren't PI and Thai where prices are low, and exceed what they are in these saunas. I much rather spend 3000 hkd for massages and a room girl with the relaxing and food then the same or more you spend for girls in most places to come to your hotel for a quick in and out session. Also, the girls at these places get much higher prices for less service in places like China and Korea. This will be a go to for me now for short weekend getaways for sure.

MadisonGuy
03-26-19, 21:11
I'm very curious about Macau, my buddy is visiting me in the Philippine and we decided to check another place out. I knew nothing about Macau but he mentioned it and it seems like a place I will like. We will be staying at Rio, but curiosity has me wondering 1. Why don't many people post about this place? And 2. Wouldn't it being legal drive prices down and I would think girls working in casinos would be the most popular thing to do. Considering how many hookers are working the casino's in vegas which is illegal I figure it will be a lot more working there. Or is the something I am missing? I do realize it is a little pricey compared to some areas, but just wondering is all options available or is it really Sauna or nothing? Any websites with freelancers or anything?

Member #4698
03-26-19, 22:29
I'm very curious about Macau, my buddy is visiting me in the Philippine and we decided to check another place out. I knew nothing about Macau but he mentioned it and it seems like a place I will like. We will be staying at Rio, but curiosity has me wondering 1. Why don't many people post about this place? And 2. Wouldn't it being legal drive prices down and I would think girls working in casinos would be the most popular thing to do. Considering how many hookers are working the casino's in vegas which is illegal I figure it will be a lot more working there. Or is the something I am missing? I do realize it is a little pricey compared to some areas, but just wondering is all options available or is it really Sauna or nothing? Any websites with freelancers or anything?MadisonGuy, Macau and Vegas are very different places. Sadly, I think you are a few year's late if you are looking for hot FL talent in Macau casinos. Without going into a lot of history, try a Google search for the Lisboa Race Track or Lion's Bar, MGM Macau. Great, great pick up places of yore.

Today the Macau Casinos frown on FL's so they are rarely seen inside any of the casinos although you might occasionally spot one in and amongst the slot machines. Good luck on that. Ha Ha. You will need it.

So currently the best source for FL's is WeChat or 141.com. You can find some real hotties there. And at the low end, there are still plenty of SW's roaming around if you know where to look, but they are fairly fugly IMHO and not particularly cheap. I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.

So, where does that leave a discerning international punter? It leaves one with the Saunas where you will find some of the best Chinese & Korean talent available in SE Asia. No exaggeration. Thus, if you are planning to visit Macau, I say know in advance it is going to be very expensive and if you still want to go, do it right and hit the Saunas. Don't hold back and try to conserve your money, always choose the most attractive girls in the various sauna lineups.

Note: If you don't think Chinese or Korean "super" models are worth the price, then don't visit. Stay in the PI or visit Jakarta. For example, Manila has many great girls and they offer Filipina GFE which is very nice. I love Filipinas. The Chinese, Korean, and Viet Macau sauna girls, on the other hand, will stick their tongues up your ass hole as far as it will go, perform multiple fire & ice BJ's per session, shag you in any position you can think of (no anal), and they look really hot!

So, ponder this conundrum: A sexy Burgos bar girl (top of the line) will run you approx. $135 give or take depending on the bar and her popularity vs. A Chinese or Korean Macau sauna girl (top of the line) that will cost $350 to $425 and you decide. All I know is I had a great time on my last visit in November which capped off an amazing 10.5-week swing thru LOS, Yangon, Jakarta, and Singapore. My two Rio Chinese "super" models rate very high on my 2018 hit list as does my sexy Singapore Familia Nobre girl, but so does my favorite super-hot Pattaya Go Go girl, my BKK RB4 Atomic Blond (maybe my favorite new girl of 2018), several of my Jakarta Bordello girls, and last but not least, my sweet, skinny Yangon FL all of which cost a fraction of my Rio and FN sauna girls. Like I said, I spent a small fortune in Macau. Was it worth it? Hell Yeah! LOL. And not really. But I am glad I went and had a great time.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. " ― George Best.

So, if you decide to go to Macau, go to the best saunas (Rio &, Familia Nobre), pick the best-looking sauna girls, don't hold back, do two girls a night if you feel like it, and have a great time! And report back.

MadisonGuy
03-27-19, 15:51
MadisonGuy, Macau and Vegas are very different places. Sadly, I think you are a few year's late if you are looking for hot FL talent in Macau casinos. Without going into a lot of history, try a Google search for the Lisboa Race Track or Lion's Bar, MGM Macau. Great, great pick up places of yore.

Today the Macau Casinos frown on FL's so they are rarely seen inside any of the casinos although you might occasionally spot one in and amongst the slot machines. Good luck on that. Ha Ha. You will need it.

So currently the best source for FL's is WeChat or 141.com. You can find some real hotties there. And at the low end, there are still plenty of SW's roaming around if you know where to look, but they are fairly fugly IMHO and not particularly cheap. I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.

So, where does that leave a discerning international punter? It leaves one with the Saunas where you will find some of the best Chinese & Korean talent available in SE Asia. No exaggeration. Thus, if you are planning to visit Macau, I say know in advance it is going to be very expensive and if you still want to go, do it right and hit the Saunas. Don't hold back and try to conserve your money, always choose the most attractive girls in the various sauna lineups.

Note: If you don't think Chinese or Korean "super" models are worth the price, then don't visit. Stay in the PI or visit Jakarta. For example, Manila has many great girls and they offer Filipina GFE which is very nice. I love Filipinas. The Chinese, Korean, and Viet Macau sauna girls, on the other hand, will stick their tongues up your ass hole as far as it will go, perform multiple fire & ice BJ's per session, shag you in any position you can think of (no anal), and they look really hot!

So, ponder this conundrum: A sexy Burgos bar girl (top of the line) will run you approx. $135 give or take depending on the bar and her popularity vs. A Chinese or Korean Macau sauna girl (top of the line) that will cost $350 to $425 and you decide. All I know is I had a great time on my last visit in November which capped off an amazing 10.5-week swing thru LOS, Yangon, Jakarta, and Singapore. My two Rio Chinese "super" models rate very high on my 2018 hit list as does my sexy Singapore Familia Nobre girl, but so does my favorite super-hot Pattaya Go Go girl, my BKK RB4 Atomic Blond (maybe my favorite new girl of 2018), several of my Jakarta Bordello girls, and last but not least, my sweet, skinny Yangon FL all of which cost a fraction of my Rio and FN sauna girls. Like I said, I spent a small fortune in Macau. Was it worth it? Hell Yeah! LOL. And not really. But I am glad I went and had a great time.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds, and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. " ― George Best.

So, if you decide to go to Macau, go to the best saunas (Rio &, Familia Nobre), pick the best-looking sauna girls, don't hold back, do two girls a night if you feel like it, and have a great time! And report back.Thanks man. Holding back has never been my problem. I'm really hoping to get a Russian, I'll be in philippines for a month so it would be a nice change of pace. Definitely doing sauna, I like day and night action. My buddy and I will want some arm candy at the casino. Seeking doesn't seem to be that great in that area I will try the sites you listed for non sauna time.

Member #4698
03-27-19, 16:19
Thanks man. Holding back has never been my problem. I'm really hoping to get a Russian, <snip> Definitely doing sauna
While I normally have zero interest in Caucasian girls while touring Asia, there was this Ukrainian head turner I saw in Familia Nobre back in November. She was nothing short of amazing. Tall, blond, thin, with well-endowed natural ta ta's combined with a beautiful face and a warm, demure smile. I was sorely tempted. Hell, I still think about that one - the one girl I let slip away. Ha Ha.

I don't know if she is still there in Macau, but it would be worth a look/see to find out and if she is still in the lineup, you can't miss her. She is such a stand out being as good looking and attractive as some of the sexiest MetArt and MPL internet soft porn models. Bing search "mpl Danica" for example and see the quality level I am talking about ie Model Quality!

Choyce
04-09-19, 21:48
So I just wanted to post my disappointing experience. I was in Macau for 2 nights. I was there with wifey and 3 kids. Got a fairly good deal at the Wynn Macau side, in the Encore actually. Anyways the 2nd night there, I wanted sneak away to experience a fishbowl. Told her I was going to gamble after the kids went sleep. I end up catching a taxi downstairs in front MGM. I told Darling 1, Masters hotel. As we are driving he tells me all the saunas have been raided and shut down for the time being. Only one is open, thought he was bullshitting, but whatever. He takes me to this spot, crowded as fuck outside. Walk in and reminds me of strip club, mama says you want 2400 $ girl or 3200 $, I say 2400 hun. I like see girls too I say. As walk through, it was strip club like with stages and poles, and booth seating where girls were sitting with customers. There wasn't one Chinese hooker, I asked mamasan she say no more. All I see is mainly white and few black. I decide to leave and take taxi back.

I gamble at MGM playing craps (which have different rules BTW, frigging hilarious IMO). Then I think to myself that taxi guy was probably full of shit about police crackdown. Catch another taxi and him deliver me to Darling 1. We pull up to Masters Hotel side entrance and speaks to guy there outside who appears to work there in Chinese. And he seems to confirm they got shut down, as well as darling 2. Supposedly all the big name ones shut down at the time. The taxi was going to take be back MGM but he stops at Hotel Fortuna. Mamasan in front of hotel takes me and escorts me up elevator to sauna inside. At reception the manager type fella says only older lady available. I bail and walk back across street to the Wynn.

Ended up super disappointed, but woke the wifey up and gave her the good frustration fuk haha. I'm from Hawaii BTW, mixed nats, tanned skin. Maybe they was just hating on me IDK. But I did find in Asia times that they busted 150 something people at a few places for sex trafficking in Macau around a day or too before we arrived.

AugustChrist
04-14-19, 06:25
I would recommend trying Familia Nobre for their foreign talent. I spent two days in Macau a month back and whilst I had a blast with a Viet spinner at Rio, Familia Nobre had a few eastern European girls I today regret not going for. Why would one go for a Caucasian beauty in this region of the world right? That was my first reaction yet in retrospect, I regret not footing the bill for one of those gals.

Don't be there too early however -I'd say not before 10 ish.

On a side note, the cute Viet suggested we catch up outside of the sauna and she'd be glad to spend the night at my hotel (she precised she just arrived. Go figure). Since we had nothing to write her number on, she made me learn it by heart LOL.

Can't wait to go back to Macau.

Stay safe and enjoy!

Cheers.


Thanks man. Holding back has never been my problem. I'm really hoping to get a Russian, I'll be in philippines for a month so it would be a nice change of pace. Definitely doing sauna, I like day and night action. My buddy and I will want some arm candy at the casino. Seeking doesn't seem to be that great in that area I will try the sites you listed for non sauna time.

RagingRabbit14
04-24-19, 10:30
I recently visited Darling 2.

I see lots of reports written here about Darling 1 but none on Darling 2, so thought I'd add my experience.

I was in Macau for a day trip. I realize that the lineups are probably better at night, but that was not an option for me.

I visited three saunas before making my choice.

First, I visited Hou Va. The prices seem to have gone up from what is reported elsewhere in this forum. Currently is 850 for regular, and 1088 for "models". There were 4 girls when I visited around 3 pm. Most were 5's. One "model" was a 6 or 7. I did not partake.

Next, I visited Darling 1 at about 4 pm. Prices were the same as reported elsewhere in this form. 1800 for regular, and 2100 for "models". There were about 6-8 girls. Mostly 5-6's, none of them above a 7. I left disappointed.

Finally, I visited Darling 2 at about 5 pm. Prices are significantly lower than Darling 1. 1398 for regular, and 1800 for two girls, or for one model. More importantly, the girls at Darling 2 were hot. Way hotter than at Darling 1. There were 8-10 girls in the fishbowl, and they were all at least 7's, with several 8-9's. I had a hard time deciding, but eventually chose a young looking girl (number 178), who in my book was a 9, and priced in the regular category.

Number 178 was very pretty. A near perfect face, looks 18, her stated age 25, and a sweet, sexy, slim body with a trimmed kitty, bubble butt, and perky, natural be cups. We communicated in Chinese.

She gave me a cat bath, BBBJ, some breast licking and pussy fingering, and fucked in mish and cowgirl. It was hard to keep from coming fast.

I was in and out the door in 45 minutes. She was very friendly through the catbath, but when it came to fucking she seemed to be not that into it, and seemed to be glad when it was over. I wish she'd been a little more into it, but I don't blame her too much. I still got what I was looking for, and enjoying fucking this beautiful young piece of ass. She asked for a tip and I gave her 100.

My first time in a Macau sauna. A lot more expensive than I used to pay for similar or better service in mainland China, but then in 2019 the sex saunas in mainland China are pretty much all shut down. More expensive than the 141 walkups in Hong Kong, but I like the the fishbowl style and am willing to pay more for it, and also the girls were hotter than most of the Hong Kong 141 girls I've seen. More expensive than the fishbowl girls in Thailand as well, but again the girls were also much hotter.

Darling 1 maybe has a better selection of hot girls at nighttime, but the price at Darling 2 is much better. Some of the girls in the fishbowl were giving me bigger smiles than 178, so maybe if I'd chosen different I would have gotten more mileage.

Anyway, I was happy with the fuck, and would recommend Darling 2 to others.

Whomer
05-11-19, 21:56
Before flying to Europe I wanted to have a nice time in Macau.

Arrived from shekou by ferry at 14:45.

Checked in to HKIA ferry at 19:45 and left my bag at the ferry counter for free.

10 min walk to Dragon hotel.

Sauna 18: Know it well, it is an easy choice for me bc it is close to ferry terminal.

As I arrive without voucher or membership card at S18, staff always try to sell membership card to me; I never bought one.

S18:

Enter it, go for a shower, select service from pool ladies (today; Body scrap in the open canbanas, or washing (inclding ball crawling) at the pools.

I went for 3-times sauna and cold water bassin.

BTW: S18 offers a real sauna ( 90°C), have seen this only at boss sauna.

S18: Pool girls showy ou their backs and sometimes a smile.

Watching a lineup from the sauna brings you watching 20 nice backsides.

Finally choosed a gil.

Standard procedure from entering backstage to walking to FS room.

It was now the 5 (th in row that I had a girl speaking some English.

Very nice session, no standard, #757 went with the flow as I dd.

I miss the blowjob in the body scrub cabin or the shower. A real pity that management is strict on this.

Had an excellent time, had a 10 k walk afterwards, went for HKIA, had good beer.

Overall: Excellent way to leave China via HKIA.

ScoobieDiver
05-18-19, 20:22
Next, I visited Darling 1 at about 4 pm. Prices were the same as reported elsewhere in this form. 1800 for regular, and 2100 for "models". There were about 6-8 girls. Mostly 5-6's, none of them above a 7. I left disappointed.By the way, Darling 1 discounts the price by around $300 if you show up during off hours, which I think may be approx 1 am to 11 am. Selection is not as good during these hours but still good.

LoveShibuyaGirls
05-19-19, 09:42
Is there a base entry fee just for entry at saunas? Or are the only fees for services you buy?

Melor
05-19-19, 10:11
Is there a base entry fee just for entry at saunas? Or are the only fees for services you buy?There IS an entry fee which is however waived if you took a girl for FS.

LoveShibuyaGirls
06-02-19, 02:38
Hi All -.

Is DFK standard service at saunas?

The reviews always mention BBBJ but most don't mention DFK.

Hong Kong Boy
06-02-19, 03:24
Hi All -.

Is DFK standard service at saunas?

The reviews always mention BBBJ but most don't mention DFK.I never get a DFK in a saunas!

Skepti10
06-02-19, 04:15
Hi All -.

Is DFK standard service at saunas?

The reviews always mention BBBJ but most don't mention DFK.Definitely not part of standard service.

LoveShibuyaGirls
06-09-19, 05:37
What is the uniform color code at Eighteen sauna?

Red = Mainland China?

Etc.

AnalInvaeder
06-11-19, 21:59
MadisonGuy, Macau and Vegas are very different places. Sadly, I think you are a few year's late if you are looking for hot FL talent in Macau casinos. Without going into a lot of history, try a Google search for the Lisboa Race Track or Lion's Bar, MGM Macau. Great, great pick up places of yore.

Today the Macau Casinos frown on FL's so they are rarely seen inside any of the casinos although you might occasionally spot one in and amongst the slot machines. Good luck on that. Ha Ha. You will need it.

So currently the best source for FL's is WeChat or 141.com. You can find some real hotties there. And at the low end, there are still plenty of SW's roaming around if you know where to look, but they are fairly fugly IMHO and not particularly cheap. I wouldn't waste my time or money on them.

So, where does that leave a discerning international punter? It leaves one with the Saunas where you will find some of the best Chinese & Korean talent available in SE Asia. No exaggeration. Thus, if you are planning to visit Macau, I say know in advance it is going to be very expensive and if you still want to go, do it right and hit the Saunas. Don't hold back and try to conserve your money, always choose the most attractive girls in the various sauna lineups.I have some questions about Rio.

1. Is MSOG allowed, or is there an extra fee per extra shot?

2. How much time is given for each girl?

3. Can you just lounge around the area and eat after you're done? Do they kick you out if you haven't purchased a service in x minutes?

4. For Rio specifically, is there any cons for staying at the hotel? It's seems pretty affordable (in the grand scheme of paying 2400 MOP for P2P) and gives shuttle service from the port, but I see a lot of posts mention that they take taxis there.

5. Can you charge by credit card so I don't have to exchange for cash?

Gromit8
06-21-19, 06:32
1. for all girls other than 600 series, price is based on 1 shot. 2nd session is discounted 500 MOP. For 600 series girls price quoted is for 2 shots per session.

2. 45 minutes is standard. 600 series girls allow 60 minutes.

3. you can lounge around for as long as you want after you are done with a session. You can go upstairs and sleep overnight in one of the sleeping rooms near the desk at the top of the stairs. If you haven't purchased a service at all for the night you will be reminded but not overly pressured. Last showtime is sometime around 2 am. There is an entrance fee of around 1100 MOP if you do not take a girl.

4. never stayed at rio but it seems like a decent 4 star hotel. Elevators are small and slow. I prefer to stay on the cotai strip.

5. yes can pay with credit card.


I have some questions about Rio.

1. Is MSOG allowed, or is there an extra fee per extra shot?

2. How much time is given for each girl?

3. Can you just lounge around the area and eat after you're done? Do they kick you out if you haven't purchased a service in x minutes?

4. For Rio specifically, is there any cons for staying at the hotel? It's seems pretty affordable (in the grand scheme of paying 2400 MOP for P2P) and gives shuttle service from the port, but I see a lot of posts mention that they take taxis there.

5. Can you charge by credit card so I don't have to exchange for cash?

DonBusch
07-01-19, 06:42
I have some questions about Rio.

1. Is MSOG allowed, or is there an extra fee per extra shot?

2. How much time is given for each girl?

3. Can you just lounge around the area and eat after you're done? Do they kick you out if you haven't purchased a service in x minutes?

4. For Rio specifically, is there any cons for staying at the hotel? It's seems pretty affordable (in the grand scheme of paying 2400 MOP for P2P) and gives shuttle service from the port, but I see a lot of posts mention that they take taxis there.

5. Can you charge by credit card so I don't have to exchange for cash?Nothing wrong with Rio but it's in a boring area. Sheraton Cotai has good rates too and is a much nicer hotel. Macau is small and easy to get around esp if you know how to work the various casino shuttle buses. Why credit cards? No one thinks in MOPs, just use yr HK dollars. Better still, if you're coming via the ferry, buy the sauna voucher.

VivaMattyVegas
07-13-19, 14:48
After doing a lot of research, I'm interested in the concept of "leg massage" as it seems as it's a cost effective way of getting some touching, though clearly not FS. Is there anywhere members can recommend for this? Also, anywhere that won't break the bank for just a BBBJ (CIM optional)? I'm most likely doing a day trip to Macau while staying in HK, so I'm not looking for a spa to spend all day at.

Thanks in advance.

AlfonsoStronzo
07-13-19, 19:43
Prices in Macau seem to be insanely high when it comes to sauna experiences. I stayed at the Rio but when they told me how much it was I thought that no provider can be so good that this price is justified. I don't need the facilities, pools, etc. I need girls and a room and good service. So after doing some RTFF, I went to Darling 2 by taxi. According to my little market research, it is supposed to be one of the more affordable ones. The word cheap does not come over my lips in Macau. Inside, there were about 20 girls in the fishbowl, all from Vietnam. In average quite pretty. I hoped for some Chinese pussy because since the crackdowns in China I find it difficult to fuck nice young Chinese pussies. But OK, the Vietnamese also have light skin and fine looks. So I chose a slim, young one with a pretty face. Price per girl is 1.360 MOP or the same in HKD for a session of 70 minutes. We went to the room which are nice with a big bed and huge bathtub. She got naked while the bathtub was getting full and already liked me a bit when she asked whether I want to have two girls. The second one is MOP / HKD 550 and joins the full session. I agreed, the first threesome in my life and another think I can check off from my bucket list. Girl #2 came in, she was tall and slim. Her services were well performed but her attitude was not as good as the one of girl #1. There was sometimes something strange in her eyes and comments. Never mind, excellent BJ session with both girls in the tub, and on the bed both girls were very willing to be fucked in any position. When I fucked one, the other immediately started to lick me, play with my balls and ass or ears. Having a threesome looks good in the mirrors but in reality the second girl can also be a kind of distraction. And some time gets lost with changing the condoms when switching from one girl to the other. All in all a very satisfactory 70 minutes session with two beautiful and easygoing girls.

In case that I would repeat the threesome again, I would ask for it at the fishbowl and choose the second girl by myself. After the session girl #2 ask for tips white pushy. I gave 60 HKD each because the situation was strange. Normally I never tip. Perhaps some taxi money for an outcall, but that's it. All in all I think this is a good option in Macau, both price-wise and performance-wise. The threesome is not a must. It is a pity that they do not have Chinese girls but the overall performance, especially of girl #1, was very good. However, as you know, it does not even come close to the original Shanghai sauna experience. But I think also the Macau hotel saunas do not come close to that, as far as I learnt from the other posts.

Later in the evening I have seen some (Vietnamese) hookers in the Holiday Inn casino, near to the Rio Hotel. They were standing in groups between the Baccarat tables and were obviously not interested in the game. I did not ask for prices since they did not actively search eye contact or anything. I guess they waited for the some rich Chinese guys and not a "poor" Western guy. Perhaps I would have approached them if I had not already have a threesome two hours before.

Truescot1975
07-14-19, 02:26
Just in the middle of a two day trip to Macau and wanted to explore the Sauna scene, first night I went to Familia Nobre easy to find and the guy at the entrance up the stairs was very good talking through the menu services and prices. Facilities are good and once entering the changing area into the pool jacuzzi sauna area I was the only person using the sauna and it's great if you like a sauna highly recommend the cold pool after. Shower girls are cute one of them actually moved around when I took a shower and watched me which kind of turned me on.

Then down to the lounge reception where the girls will take your towel and give you a robe and slippers again kind of a turn on to just get naked in front of them but that's just me.

When I say in the sofa an older lady came over asked if I'the like some water followed by a younger care shortly after who asked if I'the like a massage showed me the menu and then took me to a side room.

She sat in front of me and then took the shorts of my legs spread them so they were on hers and then gave an oil massage to my legs and plenty on cock and balls, she did ask if she wanted to wank me off but then assisted with selecting a model for full service.

As we made our way to the corridor I'm estimating 30/40 girls a mixture of Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and about 5 Russian. Sit into prices for supermodel and Chinese and Japanese Korean higher priced. I was tempted by one of the Russians but found a stunning Chinese model which meant I paid a fuller fee.

She was pretty incredible shower laying down was fun and soapy with her breasts massaging me was good she sucked my cock give me a soapy tit job and then licked my body head to toe in short she very good at the service. We dried off and she prcedded to pay attention to my nipples sucking, licking and kissing then gave me a blow job swapped it up with some ice which was great and sucked each ball in her mouth looking me straight in the eye this was a great experience then we fucked which also was great.

It's not a cheap experience but don't go to Macau if that's what your after but it is a great experience total paid just over 4000 hk dollar I went about 7.30 pm.

That night I went out to a club D2 to meet a girl I met on tinder who seemed up for it, there were plenty girls there who I'm pretty sure if approached would be up for some and bonus was a naked strip show about 2. 30 am. I left and as Darling 1 was opposite my hotel I went over there at that time in the day I didn't expect much obviously so was met with 4 Vietnamese and 3 Chinese think he said Vietnamese 1600 and Chinese 1800.

Picked a Vietnamese girl who seemed cute, once in the room she asked me to take my clothes off starts to run the bath then came over to start sucking my cock, she had no limits let me finger her pussy and her arse and then wanted me to fuck her, we had a great fuck then took me to the bath washed me nothing special to be honest then asked me to fuck her again, don't know if that's normal or I just got lucky she just seemed to love getting fucked and fingered.

Looking to go somewhere today leaning towards Rio was trying to find out more about big boss or other saunas so all in all familia Nobre is well worth it just spend time there and relax.

DonBusch
07-14-19, 07:54
Prices in Macau seem to be insanely high when it comes to sauna experiences. I stayed at the Rio but when they told me how much it was I thought that no provider can be so good that this price is justified. I don't need the facilities, pools, etc. I need girls and a room and good service. So after doing some RTFF, I went to Darling 2 by taxi. According to my little market research, it is supposed to be one of the more affordable ones. The word cheap does not come over my lips in Macau. Inside, there were about 20 girls in the fishbowl, all from Vietnam. In average quite pretty. I hoped for some Chinese pussy because since the crackdowns in China I find it difficult to fuck nice young Chinese pussies. But OK, the Vietnamese also have light skin and fine looks. So I chose a slim, young one with a pretty face. Price per girl is 1.360 MOP or the same in HKD for a session of 70 minutes. We went to the room which are nice with a big bed and huge bathtub. She got naked while the bathtub was getting full and already liked me a bit when she asked whether I want to have two girls. The second one is MOP / HKD 550 and joins the full session. I agreed, the first threesome in my life and another think I can check off from my bucket list. Girl #2 came in, she was tall and slim. Her services were well performed but her attitude was not as good as the one of girl #1. There was sometimes something strange in her eyes and comments. Never mind, excellent BJ session with both girls in the tub, and on the bed both girls were very willing to be fucked in any position. When I fucked one, the other immediately started to lick me, play with my balls and ass or ears. Having a threesome looks good in the mirrors but in reality the second girl can also be a kind of distraction. And some time gets lost with changing the condoms when switching from one girl to the other. All in all a very satisfactory 70 minutes session with two beautiful and easygoing girls..Thanks, good report. I did the duo before, waste of money. Often times, the girls are more restrictive during duos as they don't want to get accused of being 'WG'. Funny right?

I have never tipped the ladies in Macau. Only time I tip is for the mamasans at the nightclubs.

Think you did well going with the Vietnamese. Many of the light skin ones have Chinese blood anyway. For a western guy, some Chinese ladies actually take advantage and give subpar service.

For the hookers, it's just a quick session whereby they're done once you come. Oftentimes, it's CBJ. Lots of them at Venetian too when I went last time. You can also try wechat.

Pcpc1688
07-23-19, 18:35
Having been to Macau no less than 60 x, I found that the small massage shops with Viet girls are the best bang for the buck and will come to your hotel for GFE as well. Cost me 800 to 1000 MOP. After reading what saunas are charging now, I remember the good old days a Familia Nobre for 800 MOP special.

PC out.

VivaMattyVegas
07-23-19, 22:23
Can you provide your recommendations on which small massage shops you prefer?


Having been to Macau no less than 60 x, I found that the small massage shops with Viet girls are the best bang for the buck and will come to your hotel for GFE as well. Cost me 800 to 1000 MOP. After reading what saunas are charging now, I remember the good old days a Familia Nobre for 800 MOP special.

PC out.

Pcpc1688
07-24-19, 20:40
Can you provide your recommendations on which small massage shops you prefer?Walk around the area around the Ferry Mall. Also, always Houva across the garden from Royal Hotel.

The Viet places are the best bet though. Not going to any Saunas now, shit these prices are fucking stupid....

PC out.

Travel Lucid
08-13-19, 14:33
Last trip to Macau I reported that Holiday Spa was closed, well it's open again. Looks like someone paid the bills.

In fact, as a 'budget' Sauna, I found it rather good.

Staff have a nice vibe. On the two visits I just made, on both occasions was told "new boss, very nice".


Flying visit. Thanks CX for an unexpected cheap flight offer. Stayed at the Holiday Inn (not the Cotai one). Not expensive and convenient. But do not bother with the restaurant or swimming pool.

Holiday Spa was shut. Notices outside seems to be notifying of facility turn-off, so someone maybe not paying the bills. (My Portuguese is nill, and my Mandarin even worst.) So if this was not temporary, RIP Holiday Spa. And Windsor Spa for those that remember.


....

Charles Dickin
08-17-19, 13:15
Despite the girl (Nina 808) being the best I have had for many a year

Nina was beautiful and had the most amazing breasts considering her petite size. Not too large but firm, round, perfectly shaped and real. A nice smile, some conversation (she is from Hanoi in Vietnam) and so enthusiastic. She was also nicely trimmed rather than being too hairy.If she's the same Nina I enjoyed in East Spa a few years ago then I know exactly what you mean. She was 70 back then.

My Nina was hanging around near the changing rooms and looked so pretty in her uniform despite the harsh lighting. If I'd met her in other circumstances I think I would have ruined everything and asked her to marry me within minutes. What can I say I was "young" and in love.

During and especially after the session I thought East Spa was the best place on earth ever.

I tried to have a second session with her the same evening but she wasn't in the showtime line up any more. I went back to East two days later and asked for her by number. Manageress Sarah said something that I think was the girls change numbers all the time.

I went back to East a few more times over a few years but sadly never saw Nina again. Every time I returned East Spa went down in my rankings. It's not great when the best part of the visit was chatting to the ladies in the outer changing areas.

Charles Dickin
08-17-19, 14:15
As I have said elsewhere Nina Vietnam was awesome but my general experience of East Spa much less so and getting worse each time.

To make up for the disappointment of no more Nina I tried the AV package. It promises much as the lady turns up in a leather outfit with a small whip but she takes it off almost immediately once in the room. Part of the package is an all sorts of BBBJ done with a variety of materials. Included is some kind of chewy candy but it wasn't at all erotic. I usually did AV sessions over all my visits in case it went wild. It never did. The last time my Chinese girl opened all the candies and ate them all. She said she liked them. I noticed.

Another session I picked the air stewardess fantasy but the girl didn't have all the uniform and like AV took it off almost immediately once in the room. I was hoping she'd at least wear the hat. But she didn't turn up with one. I did ask and she disappeared for what seemed like forever but did come back with a hat of some sort. It looked more like a fast food hat than cabin crew. Waste of money and especially time.

East had multiple lounges. One is VIP only and is behind closed doors. The first lounge I name the arrivals lounge as it is for men who haven't been with a girl yet. After your session you are returned to the second lounge which I name the departure lounge. There are no shows in there. Shows are in the arrivals lounge and maybe the VIP I don't know. The arrivals lounge has maybe 40 beds so if you go when it's busy on a weekend and you are not a VIP or look like super rich Asian then you will be put straight to the departure lounge. It happened to me twice. If it happens to you then immediately after a show go to the arrivals lounge and grab a seat. Don't let the staff put you back in the departure lounge. They tried that with me.

No I wasn't drunk. Yes I was cleanly showered and always polite. When in Asia I call everyone sir just in case they are ladyboys.

Both the arrival and departure lounges are filled with staff who will pester you for massages. It's hard to order food and drink in the departure lounge as the waitresses don't visit it very often. Even harder to send the order back because they brought you the wrong thing.

On two visits I was met with some resistance when I tried to return to the arrivals lounge even though both times I went ahead and took a second session.

Manageress Sarah was very nice but only saw her my first two times. The second visit when I first arrived she said I looked very tired and said I should go to the sleeping area first. They have two dormitory rooms filled with fat old guys who do awesome chain saw impressions. Each dorm has a bathroom with a shower that doesn't work and a toilet that doesn't flush. There are bottles of drinking water. Each bunk has a mini safe which should contain a packet of ear plugs. These are essential if you have any amount of hearing.

I met Sarah at the payment desk on my way out and she gave me a coupon for a discount next time.

The other managers were unhelpful. After the show there is a cattle market where guys are yelling girls numbers out and managers are coupling people up in descending order of volume or wealth. If you don't speak Chinese you are ignored until the end. There should be some ladies left but probably not the ones you liked.

The shows such as they are have been described before. Vietnamese and the shorter Chinese girls spend a minute or so on your lap before moving to the next station. I don't consider these girls to be low end, some of them are beautiful and others gorgeous but the marketing and local culture considers Viet and South Chinese to be the least desirable.

If the arrivals lounge is full and it probably is because it is small then there won't be enough Viet and South China girls to go around. Although shows are about every 90 minutes it always seemed that I was the guy who missed out on the sample BBBJ. I don't know why. The girls know how many beds they will visit in the show and so some of them must have been calculating. In one show though the manager moved some girls which meant I was denied the finale but the Chinese weren't. I guess they were regulars or customers they were hoping to be. I understand but it was still disappointing to be left out.

You can imagine my happiness then when one time all the customers in the arrivals were sent out to the spa area for a special blow job round. I'm nervous at the best of times so deciding where to stand was a worry. I did what I was recommended in my school days for success at the school dance and stood next to the ugliest guy to make me look better. I was pleased with my tactics until the shorts came off. Not all Asian guys are small. This guy may have been short of stature in some ways but he also a three legged stool. Lesson learnt.

The circle that sucked was followed by a special deal for something called Queen Bathing. I had no idea what it was so I asked a manageress. Just my luck to get the one with almost no voice. I eventually figured out from trying to lip read in the semi dark that if you took a girl you got a free bathing session first. But it took so long to figure out that all the good girls were gone. Also it was an all in bathing session. I really didn't like the idea of sharing one bath with 50 sweaty men so I passed.

There were many things I didn't like about East. The final visit probably my fifth or sixth was particularly annoying. Ignored by the managers every show, missed out in the shows, every food and drink item initially came wrong, when I did get the correct food it was often taken away before I'd finished. The air stewardess wasting time looking for a hat although the rest of the session was decent. The first session was AV and the girl was constantly stopping to eat the candy. To be fair the Chinese girls were otherwise decent service and I found both very attractive which is why I picked them.

The final straw was paying. I'd had two cosplay sessions which came to well over 5000 MOP and yet there two lots of 17 MOP or some such silly numbers at the bottom of the slip. I asked what they were and was told condom charges. It just seemed stupid all round. Stupid of them to put a trivial amount on a big total and stupid of me to complain about it. But it's just the way the experience had made me. Normally I don't care.

I thought I'd never go back but if the same Nina is back.

VivaMattyVegas
08-21-19, 14:17
On Google Maps, I noticed there seem to be 2 "Royal Hotel" in about the same location, with slightly different wording.

Do you happen to have any link for this Houva spot? I can't find it in any map findings.


Walk around the area around the Ferry Mall. Also, always Houva across the garden from Royal Hotel.

The Viet places are the best bet though. Not going to any Saunas now, shit these prices are fucking stupid....

PC out.

Charles Dickin
08-22-19, 22:17
Do you happen to have any link for this Houva spot? I can't find it in any map findings.I think the silence from most members means they'd like you to try harder to look for yourself.

I'm an old softie, mostly, so try the following internet search.


google maps macau saunas and massageThis should give a link to a custom map. It's old but some things are the same. Hou va is near Jardim Garden Vasco daGama.

Unless Hou va has improved its facilities then go for outcall. It's a few years since I've been but it stank of tobacco even worse than before the new management. The girl I took complained about it too. She insisted on keeping her hair tied up because it smelt of tobacco. I offered to shave her head military recruit style. Thinking about it now that might have ended our relationship as I never saw her again.

The previous female management spoke little English. The new male management spoke good English but the price had gone up and the smell had gotten worse. I preferred the old regime but that's just a sign of ageing. You don't have to read many threads on here to see that things were always better in the past.

If you do outcall and need a taxi then stand on the corner marked "seafood restaurant" Amaral / Henrique / Calcada. For some unknown reason the girls don't like standing right outside their office.

Or stay at the Royal Hotel and walk. If you are big spender VIP customer with the right connections maybe they will let you use their underground gold plated moving walkway tunnel direct between Hou vu and Hotel. The "tunnel of love" is the stuff legends.

At least one piece of information in this guide is fictional to encourage members to do some research. This is left as an exercise for the reader and should be taken in good humor.

VivaMattyVegas
08-23-19, 11:22
I greatly appreciate the map suggestion and that does help immensely. In terms of RTFF and research, I've done more than I care to admit, the issue is much of it is either outdated or conflicting.

The "sauna" concept is not something that exists in the USA and doesn't seem to exist in many Asian countries at all, that's why this has me curious for details.


I think the silence from most members means they'd like you to try harder to look for yourself.

I'm an old softie, mostly, so try the following internet search.

This should give a link to a custom map. It's old but some things are the same. Hou va is near Jardim Garden Vasco daGama.

Unless Hou va has improved its facilities then go for outcall. It's a few years since I've been but it stank of tobacco even worse than before the new management. The girl I took complained about it too. She insisted on keeping her hair tied up because it smelt of tobacco. I offered to shave her head military recruit style. Thinking about it now that might have ended our relationship as I never saw her again.

The previous female management spoke little English. The new male management spoke good English but the price had gone up and the smell had gotten worse. I preferred the old regime but that's just a sign of ageing. You don't have to read many threads on here to see that things were always better in the past..

Ryouko
08-24-19, 07:15
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Ryouko
08-24-19, 07:20
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Rio.

I stayed in the hotel at Rio, which had everything to do with its famous sauna. The hotel is actually quite good and the best cheap, decent-quality option in the area. Amusingly it's located right next to the PLA military base skyscraper; wonder if the sauna has anything to do with that.

After a really long series of flights, I needed to sleep a bit but decided first to see the sauna floor. I went to the floor, walked in, and walked out, despite them begging me to go inside haha. But I needed the sleep!

Later I went inside, my first time in any Macau sauna. I was quite nervous. The thing where you change in the locker room I didn't like, but I already knew about that. I just faced the corner and did it quickly. Also you'll see other men walking around naked. I knew about that too, so I just averted my eyes and didn't look, and it went okay.

I first went and got a Turkish bath, not knowing fully what it was. It was very nice, and the girl was from Thailand. She washed me thoroughly with warm water and soap. I groped her and her breasts a bit and she was okay but not willing to go too far. She said she wasn't one of the ones that had sex.

I saw a hot pool with a man inside. There may have been a girl standing outside; I'm not sure if there were any services related to the pool. Next time I'll find out.

I then went and had a Vietnamese girl wash my feet and two not-pretty Vietnamese women help me change. Both asked for and got tips, although the ones who changed my clothes didn't really deserve it.

Then I was in the seated area and gathered my bearings. The assistants who do massages are mainly Vietnamese and in their late 30's and 40's. I asked one to do a hand massage. Apparently hand massages are supposed to be very firm and painful. I told her not to do that. So she softly massaged my hands, while telling me in dissatisfaction that the real thing was much more painful haha.

The line-up was called (I think it comes every 20 minutes) and I came out to see the girls come. It was just like the videos you see on YouTube, and for a moment I just stood amazed that I was actually standing in real-life in a line-up able to fuck any of these beautiful women. For the first line-up I just observed and saw how things went.

The second time I tried to see which girls smiled and held my gaze. I picked a beautiful tall Chinese model. Then she held my hand and we walked hand-in-hand. She left and I sat in a bar near the back, waiting. A male assistant guided me to the room and tried to upsell some strange type of condom and a milk bath, which I rejected.

The girl walked in and we stripped. Then she washed me and we had a soapy massage. It was very nice. I had purposely not masturbated for several weeks, so I had to deliberately pinch myself several times to prevent from an unwanted early pop. Then she kissed me all over and gave me a BBBJ, while I held her hands. She wasn't happy when I grabbed her breasts though and told me to do it lighter.

Then she dried me and we went to the bed and had sex. I think we did cowgirl, doggy, and then missionary. Then I popped inside this beautiful woman. I remember she was quite impressed by the amount of cum.

Afterwards I actually had a bad case of refractory period. She asked if I wanted a second round (seems that is common) and seemed surprised when I said no. So instead she gave me a normal massage while I lay on the bed, both of us naked. Then we walked out, my arm around her waist. I felt quite nice but guilty at the same time (especially seeing her excited to return to the line-up, which was just ending).

Total: 4646 pataca.

Charles Dickin
08-24-19, 12:05
In terms of RTFF and research, I've done more than I care to admitAh ok. You should have admitted it.

If you want the short version of my advice:

1 if you're going to do it accept that it's EXPENSIVE. You can't do it on a small budget and if you try you will not enjoy it and will have wasted your money. You can do cheaper incall in Macau with Darling 1 and 2, Houva, Viet massage shops, and some pensions I think they are called. I don't know where the massage shops are or exactly what the pensions are, if that's even the right name. I read it somewhere probably here because some members contribute good quality intel.

2 Do your research for which saunas you might visit and how to get there. Buy a small waterproof pouch that you can keep your valuables in while showering. Maybe get something that allows you to conceal cash in the pouch too so you can buy some off the menu extras. You can take your own condoms in this way. But maybe the lady will insist on using her own.

3 go visit several saunas: try Beverly because it's more relaxing, try Nobre because it's a bit cheaper, try Rio for the large line up, try East for the AV session, try Golden for the interactivity with the service girls who stay in the lounge then try some other saunas not normally reported here.

4 now that you're a veteran sauna man, write some reports to help other newbies especially about saunas not normally listed.

I'm told by a non-service Indonesian woman at Emperor that either Boss or Big Boss is terrible. They are two different saunas but the names make them hard to distinguish.

Brace yourself, long version is starting.


the issue is much of it is either outdated or conflicting.I haven't been for a few years now so I don't have fresh info. Before my last trip there was a crackdown, the Lisboa Racetrack was closed, freelancers were removed from casinos and saunas asked for cash not credit card. Also Family Nobre no longer did line ups in the lounge. You have to get up and walk down a corridor. But they did do shows for VIP members.

But when I went back a year later saunas were taking credit card payments again. I didn't notice any freelancers in casinos but I don't spend much time there. But they were probably back. The racetrack was still closed. You can relive the glory days with online videos.

I don't think any saunas have closed. Maybe some have renamed.


The "sauna" concept is not something that exists in the USA and doesn't seem to exist in many Asian countries at all, that's why this has me curious for details.There are detailed reports on the internet if you look. You probably have but haven't admitted it.

Do your research for which saunas you might visit and how to get there. Streetview or the Chinese QQ version are your friends. Buy a small waterproof pouch that you can keep your valuables in while showering. Maybe get something that allows you to conceal cash in the pouch too so you can buy some off the menu extras. You can take your own condoms but the lady might insist on using hers.

The main things to remember are:

Everyone from the obligatory middle aged women hanging out outside the front door to the obligatory middle aged women on the payment desk to the waitresses knows why you are there.

Don't be tempted by the onslaught of massage offers you get in the lounge unless you really want them.

Learn how to take advantage of the show times to get a better seat in the lounge or to get a better line up of service girls.

A basic walkthrough:

1 arrive trying not to look too embarrassed having had to fight your way through a crowd of middle aged women lurking outside the door for no obvious reason. The Houva you are so interested in isn't a sauna and so desn't have the middle aged women outside. But it is opposite a school so if you feel shy then don't go at school closing time because you'll have to fight your through a school of spotty unshowered teenage boys.

2 go the payment desk and hand over VIP number or optionally join as VIP. Ask about VIP costs and benefits and make your own mind up if it's worth it.

3 you'll be given a locker key with a number. Don't lose the key as the number is your new name. Go to changing area, find your locker, put your stuff in the locker and change into a towel and flip flops. Some saunas have men usually from Vietnam to help you some have women usually from Indonesia or Philippines. You might be able to make private arrangements to meet them but expect to pay close to sauna shag prices because the staff know the prices you are obviously willing to pay.

4 waddle to the showers in your towel and get clean. Some saunas like Golden and Family Nobre have bikini women who will help you for a fee added to your final bill. It's worth doing your first time just for the experience but what experience you will get depends. At Golden you sit on a stool and get a hand job in front of all the bikini women who want to watch and giggle. Great if you're an exhibitionist. At Nobre you get a body wash on a table in a private room with the door open.

4-a as well as showering you can also brush your teeth and shave.

5 waddle to the second changing area where more bikini women will help you change for a tip added to your final bill. You don't have to tip at all but they will make you feel guilty and suggest quite a big tip. They will give you new flip flops just as uncomfortable and ill fitting as the first pair. You will also get a pair of stupid shorts with no fly and an ugly robe. This is the customers uniform and although the style was out of date in the 70's already you should wear it with pride. Shorts come in two sizes, too big and too small.

6 waddle into the lounge and be directed to a seat.

7 spend 10 minutes trying to understand a nonsense menu written in Engrish and fending off constant attacks from massage women and some male staff.

8 these massage women and maybe some male staff will be offering various things. The men tend to offer nail cutting and foot massage and maybe hair cutting. Each women tends to do only one of ear cleaning, neck massage, shoulder massage, leg massage or thigh massage. Thigh massage is code for a halfway hand job. Sometimes this is in the main lounge sometimes in a private room. If you sneak some cash in you might be able to get some full extras. But this is going to risky for the woman and expensive for you. As with the changing room staff the massage women know the price of a sauna shag.

9 before agreeing to any massage of any type talk to a manager (they usually wear jackets) to see what's what. Some saunas like East give you a free massage after you have had a sex session but that might not be for every session. The rules such as they are fast and lose. I am told this especially true for 18 Sauna at the Golden Dragon where all staff are "on the take" if that's the right phrase. I'm told that all staff is asking for cash on the side. I am told that if you go with cash in hand and the right attitude this can be entertaining in its own way.

10 the menus at all saunas are confusing at first. They refer to things like "Korean style" and "Shanghai style". The price is the clue. Shanghai style is a regular massage done in the Chinese style which is basically a military attack on your body. If you want to know what it's like to be beaten up by a middle aged Asian women using only her hard as nails fingers then this is your once in a lifetime experience. The other styles of massage are the horizontal jogging sort and the style refers to the nationality of the girl. I'll put a bit more about this later.

11 there is food and drink on the menu. If no price is shown then there is no extra charge. If a price is shown this is an extra added to your final bill. The choice of food differs a lot between saunas. The quality ranges from ok to poor. Don't go to one of Macau's Michelin star restaurants first because the come down will be just too much.

12 some saunas like Beverly have no shows. These lounges are the best for relaxing.

13 older saunas like Emperor and Rio (I'm told same owner and Emperor was the first in Macau) have shows in another room and you have to surrender your lounge seat to go and see. If you don't choose a service girl after the show you can go back to the lounge but you might not get any seat if it's busy. You can use this to your advantage if you couldn't get a seat before a show. Either ignore the show or leave as soon as it is finished.

14 newer saunas like East and Golden have the show in the main lounge but only for those who already have seats. Shows might only be on busy nights to Thursday thru Saturday and from maybe 9 pm until maybe 1 am. I think it depends how many big spenders are in residence.

15 some saunas like Nobre only have shows for VIP members.

16 you can read and watch examples of shows on the internet.

17 you can pick a girl after a show but the competition from other customers is fierce. Think desperate cattle market. If you can't shout numbers in Chinese then you're going to be the last guy to be asked.

18 you can ask for a girl line up at any time. For half an hour to an hour after a big show the line up will be reduced. Between 2 am and either noon or 6 pm the line up will be small maybe as small as just 2 girls.

At saunas you have to expect a certain amount of what I consider cultural racism. Priority will be given to wealthy Chinese customer then wealthy customers from other places in Asia. However some of the managers especially the Indonesian and Burmese ones can be very friendly towards westerners. Like all businesses worldwide some managers are crap while others are really crap but some actually understand customer service.

The other cultural racism thing you will encounter is the pricing. Vietnamese girls are the cheapest but in a sauna nothing is that cheap except maybe an overnight stay instead of paying for a hotel. The price of a Shanghai attack massage usually gets you a free or heavily discounted stay overnight in a private room. This is often a similar price to a 3 or 4 star hotel but with worse facilities. For even less money you can try the sauna's dormitory. Fucking good luck getting any sleep in there.

The Vietnamese are considered by the Chinese as not very physically attractive. Personally I think the Vietnamese are sexy. But one hot as hell older Indonesian pro told me you have to be wary of the Vietnamese because.


everything Vietnam girl is imitation, hair, contact lens, cheeks, tits, assI have usually found the Vietnamese to be very attentive but I had some er disappointments with some at Nobre. But the first one I had there was awesome.

The southern Chinese are the second cheapest because they are shorter and darker skinned. This is less attractive to the Chinese but I like the look.

The northern Chinese are taller and paler and more expensive. They can be very pretty but it depends on what you like. Some of the ones I've seen marketed as Mongolian looked more like Mongolian warriors. But some where beautifully feminine.

At the top end are the Koreans and Japanese. One Korean guy in East told me they are definitely not Korean girls but Chinese who look a bit Korean to the untrained eye. If you are doing a nationality bucket list then try Korea or Japan for the authentic product. If all you care about are looks then these ladies are definitely beautiful. But whether they are a $1000 beautiful is your decision. If you got for one, forget the cost and dive into the experience. If your mind is on the money you won't get your moneys worth.

There might also be a few girls marked as Malaysians or Singaporean. And there may be some exotic imports. There are reports of Nobre having a Ukranian. I once had a Jamaican at Nobre. I could tell by the accent that she wasn't. She might have been Dominican or maybe a black South American. She didn't sound African. She wasn't very good at the business but she did have beautiful skin. Golden had a black Brazilian with very long very permed bleached blond hair.

The best two tips I can give you are 1 forget the money and 2 be clean. The service girls really appreciate a really clean guy with fresh breath. You have to over do it not just be clean but be seen to be clean. So I always revisit the shower area after I've picked a girl for teeth cleaning while she's gone to get her toolkit. Exception is Nobre because of where the line up happens. I ask for the line up and go freshen up while the line up forms. If you read reports about reluctance from the girl then you have to wonder whether the guy had done his best to be clean especially breath. And if he was polite enough.
You're paying but you're not buying outright ownership of her. You are not buying a guaranteed good time. You are buying the OPPORTUNITY to have a good time. Be obviously clean and gentlemanly and do what the lady likes. As you get experienced you can learn what she really likes like which breast or nipple is more sensitive. Ticklish or not. Clit or g spot. How fast or slow she likes it. Shallow or deep. That's how you have a good time.

I am sure this is more than enough information for you to get started. The sauna is an expensive experience. Don't nickel and dime. Just go jump in with both feet and fresh breath. You'll remember the experience longer than the cost. Well probably. It IS expensive.

Charles Dickin
08-24-19, 23:51
I've been giving it some thought over the last few hours.

It's best not to overthink and overplan your trip. You've done some research so pick a sauna and go through the process. Post a report here. Then rinse and repeat.

If you're really shy start with the Beverly Plaza Hotel. If you're slightly shy try the Emperor first. If you're modest then try Family Nobre. If you're a little excited then maybe Rio although I hate the place for reasons I might put in another post. If you're excited then try East. If you're really excited go to Golden. If you're nuts go to 18. If you're adventurous try a sauna not normally listed here. Definitely post a report.

Beverly Plaza hotel has male helpers but they leave you alone to get changed and there are no service girls in the lounge. You have to go up another floor for that when you're ready. Walk in off the street go straight over to the elevators. I can't remember the floor. I think 2 is the main spa entrance called Millionaire Club and 3 is the floor for going straight to the knocking shop. If you take a suitcase with you then the spa main desk might try to redirect you to the main lobby. Just say you want the spa. If you want to stay in the spa overnight you need to have had a Shanghai style massage or a sex massage to qualify for a room. You will need ear plugs but will have to take your own. So try to acquire some from your long haul flight.

Emperor has modest size line ups in a room that's not the main lounge. I don't remember if the changing room helpers are male.

Nobre has shows only for a few VIPs at a time. The line-up is in a corridor. The changing room helpers are male.

Ryouko has just posted about Rio.

East has female changing room staff. I tried to get one to ogle me once but she refused.

I can't remember if Golden's changing room helpers are male. The main attraction with Golden is that the Vietnamese and cheaper Chinese service girls constantly prowl the lounge looking for trade. The shows were also frequent Thursdays thru Saturdays. Sometimes they did a bonus length show where the blowjob finale was long enough for some of the Asians to CIM. I don't know if long shows still happen.

I forgot to put in my other report that the washing facilities in the service rooms vary wildly. Beverly is just a normal shower and a tiny bed. East is just a shower in a bath so hope you are mobile enough. It's a big bed. You might even get a round bed. I can't remember Emperor facilities but I was told it was the first one in Macau so it's probably just a normal hotel bedroom. Nobre and East have special big shower area beds. You'll see when you try. The Rio room I had was a jacuzzi bed. Lying on the nozzles was fucking agony. It's how I imagine lying on a bed of nails is like. It was even worse when the girl got on top. Golden has a shower bed like a gym bench.

I also forgot to say in my other report that although it costs about a million dollars for an hour session in a Macau sauna, that's a Macau hour which goes quicker. Little of that time is spent playing sink the alligator in the swamp. Most of the time is the girl getting her kit, arranging the bed towels, arranging the kit, rearranging the kit, showering you, showering herself. If she's Chinese especially model category then she'll spend time complaining you are too big and trying to find a condom to fit. A lot of time can be given over to her showering you. It depends on the sauna's setup. At Nobre it's quite a long time and Golden it's most of the time. I enjoy this part if the girl knows what she's doing. I love it if she really knows what she's doing.

If you have multiple girls at once then probably only one will shower you while the rest have a sly smoke. The one who washes you will be the one you fancy the least. Them's the rules.

If you do the AV package at East then a lot of time goes on various types of blow job. It's worth doing once.

In my experience Vietnamese girls are way better at the washing part. Some have it to an art form. There was one I nearly stayed the whole time in the shower with. It wasn't conventional sex but it was sexcellent.

Ok you definitely have enough info now. So come on in the water's lovely. When are you going?

Charles Dickin
08-25-19, 00:10
I felt I should post why I didn't like Rio. It's just my one and only experience.

Many reasons.

I'm told the owner is the same as Emperor. Emperor I'm told was the first sex sauna so the design was mainly several areas. One for washing and one for lounging. The sex takes places in hotel bedrooms. The shows were probably an afterthought so they take place in the washing area. When a show takes places girls with bells walk through the lounge and disturb you. You have to get up and go to the washing area where a line up takes place.

Rio has the same set up and came later. So much for evolution. The first problem is that the disco lights which make it difficult see properly. The girls walk around but their number badges are on the opposite side to where you stand. So it's really hard to see them. There are so many girls that they have to walk quickly which makes it even more harder to see the number. And then the flashing lights make it nearly impossible if you don't have excellent night vision. Also the managers who take your order will probably ask the Asian men first so you get left out. There's no shortage of girls but you bet the one you really wanted has been picked already.

At the end of the parade I found myself standing near a tall Chinese model who I thought was very beautiful. I thought I would take her. I smiled and waved at her. She looked at me icily and turned away. Ouch. I suppose that's how the girls feel all the time when a customer chooses someone else.

I picked another girl. She was still pretty. She was nice but she had a bad cold. I've since learnt that in some parts of Asia it is rude to blow your nose. The correct procedure is to constantly sniff the green goo from nostril to nostril preferably so loudly they can hear you next door. It's important for everyone in a mile radius to know you are being polite and not blowing your nose. There's no way she should have been at work.

As I said in a previous post the shower bed has jacuzzi nozzles. The stupid head who designed it has obviously never lay on one. It's torture. When he dies and surely goes to hell I hope he is made to lay on one of his creations for all eternity. Preferably with a big fatty sitting on top of him.

But my main reason for hating Rio was the first part of the show. There were like a 100 girls in a line up and maybe 50 guys. So that's quite an audience. Two girls were forced to do a striptease. One was clearly terrified. It wasn't sexy like in movies. It was shameful. When the stripping was over the manager refused to give the girl her clothes back or a towel to punish her for not doing a good striptease. It was degrading. It's just my opinion. Don't bother telling me if you disagree. But for that reason alone I wouldn't give my custom to Rio again.

VivaMattyVegas
08-25-19, 12:28
I have plans to be in HK for 8 nights in November, hope to get over to Macau for probably 3 of those. All up in the air though as the situation in HK sadly continues to worsen.

What I seek when it comes to the saunas are all the little things that just don't happen in the States. The lounge idea with food and drink while you're getting a handy is what appeals to me the most. If a BBBJCIM isn't Earth shattering expensive, then great. I'm not there for FS, that much I know. Also, the concept of having a hot woman (or a woman period) washing you greatly intrigues me.

Macau1
08-25-19, 18:10
Wow, how do you get lucky to spend almost two weeks in Macau, I've been to Macau three times prior, the longest being 11 days.

November will be my next trip but only for 5 solid days, leave from USA on a Thursday and arrive Macau on a Saturday, then leave on a Thursday. Enjoy reading the reviews, I know of all or most of the places mentioned in this Forum but somehow I've found other places and never partaked at Rio, 18 Sauna, Emperor, Familia Nobre.

There is a place called Sauna One in the Grand Emperor hotel that seemed to be high end or pricey and pretty good quality there, but didn't partake, haven't heard a lot of reviews on Sauna One here.

Have been to Darling 1 and tried Houva, Golden Sauna, Beverly, and Big Boss. Then there's my budget go to sauna Holiday Spa.

I'll provide some reviews later.


Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

VivaMattyVegas
08-25-19, 20:28
I did some research for "Holiday Spa" and couldn't come up with anything solid. Is it located on the premises of a Holiday Inn hotel? If so, it appears there's two in Macau.


Wow, how do you get lucky to spend almost two weeks in Macau, I've been to Macau three times prior, the longest being 11 days.

November will be my next trip but only for 5 solid days, leave from USA on a Thursday and arrive Macau on a Saturday, then leave on a Thursday. Enjoy reading the reviews, I know of all or most of the places mentioned in this Forum but somehow I've found other places and never partaked at Rio, 18 Sauna, Emperor, Familia Nobre.

There is a place called Sauna One in the Grand Emperor hotel that seemed to be high end or pricey and pretty good quality there, but didn't partake, haven't heard a lot of reviews on Sauna One here.

Have been to Darling 1 and tried Houva, Golden Sauna, Beverly, and Big Boss. Then there's my budget go to sauna Holiday Spa.

I'll provide some reviews later.

Charles Dickin
08-25-19, 22:30
There is a place called Sauna One in the Grand Emperor hotelI think Grand Emperor Hotel is Excellent Sauna. Please report if it is excellent by nature.

I think Sauna One or The One is the Landmark Hotel which is now the New Orient Landmark.


Have been to Darling 1 and tried Houva, Golden Sauna, Beverly, and Big Boss. Then there's my budget go to sauna Holiday Spa.

I'll provide some reviews later.I'm looking forward to your reports on the Holiday Spa and Big Boss.

I heard there's a new spa called Majesty at the Harbourview Hotel if you're feeling adventurous.

Charles Dickin
08-25-19, 23:35
I have plans to be in HK for 8 nights in November, hope to get over to Macau for probably 3 of those. All up in the air though as the situation in HK sadly continues to worsen.If it's that bad you can go straight to Macau from HK airport. Direct via ferry or take a bus to the bridge and then another bus to Macau.


What I seek when it comes to the saunas are all the little things that just don't happen in the States. The lounge idea with food and drink while you're getting a handy is what appeals to me the most.In that case you need a sauna where the thigh massage is done in the lounge. Saunas probably won't let you take food into the rooms. Golden sauna won't even let you take drinks to the rooms.


If a BBBJCIM isn't Earth shattering expensive, then great.I don't know if that's possible in a sauna. Maybe the service oriented girls from Vietnam or Thailand or south China. You might have to sneak some extra cash in. Or make arrangements for a private visit in your hotel. Or see my tip below.

A HJ to completion in a sauna seems to require at least 3 thigh massages possibly plus an extra fine. This makes it at least as expensive as FS. The massage girls are not supposed to finish you. If you read back through the forum you will see it can be done. But again you probably need to sneak cash into the room.

If these are your sauna goals I fear you will be disappointed.


Also, the concept of having a hot woman (or a woman period) washing you greatly intrigues me.Now that you will enjoy and should be the main aim of your sauna visits. Family Nobre and Golden are probably your best choices. They have the best washing areas in the service rooms. A Viet or south China girl is probably the best choice. You can ask for the whole session to be in the shower room. Probably no point having multiple girls at once because probably only one will wash you. You can try the assisted wash in the changing room too. If you want to show off a bit then Golden sauna washing is more public.

If you like the idea of a sexy wash then try K Pressure in HK. They tend to be women rather than girls. There's also Akane in Bangkok. It's probably your perfect place because it's mostly washing and no FS. I had a duo and it's the cleanest I've ever felt. So if you can't go to HK and Macau try BKK.

Back to your BBBJCIM Macau fantasy. There was an Indonesian at Hou Va who did just that. I didn't ask for it. Fulfilled a fantasy I didn't even know I had. As I was obviously about to finish she whipped the condom off and dived on me mouth first. She held me in her mouth until I stopped then held it there some more just to make sure. Then dribbled it all down the shaft while looking me directly in the eye. Now ladies THAT is how it's done. No sprinting to the bathroom hand over mouth like you're vomiting and then spitting so loudly the deaf guy next door bangs on the wall to keep the noise down. I don't blame you ladies for wanting to react that way but it does kill the mood.

When the Chinese girl I was licking at Golden unexpectedly squirted about 5 gallons I didn't run the toilet and spit loudly. She said after she was pleased I hadn't and had kept licking because she was really riding the crest of a wave. So was I. It wasn't bravery or gentlemanly. I'd never had that happen before and I was too shocked to get up and run away. I didn't really mean to keep licking it was just a reflex trying not to drown. That's the danger of being on an island like Macau. All too easy to drown. Happy days!

Member #4698
08-26-19, 02:34
I have plans to be in HK for 8 nights in November, hope to get over to Macau for probably 3 of those. All up in the air though as the situation in HK sadly continues to worsen.

What I seek when it comes to the saunas are all the little things that just don't happen in the States. The lounge idea with food and drink while you're getting a handy is what appeals to me the most. If a BBBJCIM isn't Earth shattering expensive, then great. I'm not there for FS, that much I know. Also, the concept of having a hot woman (or a woman period) washing you greatly intrigues me.Why are you planning to visit HKG for 8 nights? If you have a reason for going other than getting laid or being a tourist ie a business purpose, postpone it, or government purpose, so be it, just keep yourself abreast of the political situation and be prepared to change your plans at a moment's notice. It could get real bad there fast and at any time.

But, If you are going to HKG for primarily mongering purposes, ie recreational reasons, then I strongly advise you to reconsider. 1st, now is not the time to visit. And 2nd, even if a crackdown was not imminent, HKG sucks as mongering destination and has for some time. In fact it is one of my least favorite girly destinations in all of Asia. Macau, on the other hand, is great, albeit expensive and both MNL & BKK are much more entertaining and fun alternatives than HKG. The last time I was in HKG, approximately 10 months ago, I could not believe how bad the girly situation had become there. I checked out the most popular bars in Wan Chai and all the girls except maybe 1 or 2 were undoable, fat, old, and fugly! Don't go! But if you do go, don't say you were not warned.

Penetrador
08-26-19, 12:18
Why are you planning to visit HKG for 8 nights? If you have a reason for going other than getting laid or being a tourist ie a business purpose, postpone it, or government purpose, so be it, just keep yourself abreast of the political situation and be prepared to change your plans at a moment's notice. It could get real bad there fast and at any time.

But, If you are going to HKG for primarily mongering purposes, ie recreational reasons, then I strongly advise you to reconsider. 1st, now is not the time to visit. And 2nd, even if a crackdown was not imminent, HKG sucks as mongering destination and has for some time. In fact it is one of my least favorite girly destinations in all of Asia. Macau, on the other hand, is great, albeit expensive and both MNL & BKK are much more entertaining and fun alternatives than HKG. The last time I was in HKG, approximately 10 months ago, I could not believe how bad the girly situation had become there. I checked out the most popular bars in Wan Chai and all the girls except maybe 1 or 2 were undoable, fat, old, and fugly! Don't go! But if you do go, don't say you were not warned.What's the worst that can happen in HK? Those protest are just protest I would go to the building were girls are waiting behind the door, Fiji building I believe saw hot girls from videos of those kind of buildings around Hong Kong.

VivaMattyVegas
08-26-19, 13:09
No, the intention of the trip is not purely for mongering. You're correct that Manila or Bangkok would serve that purpose much better. Believe me, if I could get out of going to Hong Kong, I would, but the hotel and airline are throwing up roadblock after roadblock when it comes to refunds or even working with me for credit. The US State Department would basically have to tell US citizens not to go to Hong Kong at all before I can get some relief. HK just happens to be in the middle of a 3 country, 1 month tour of Asia, so that makes changing plans even harder than had it been at the beginning or end of the trip.


Why are you planning to visit HKG for 8 nights? If you have a reason for going other than getting laid or being a tourist ie a business purpose, postpone it, or government purpose, so be it, just keep yourself abreast of the political situation and be prepared to change your plans at a moment's notice. It could get real bad there fast and at any time.

But, If you are going to HKG for primarily mongering purposes, ie recreational reasons, then I strongly advise you to reconsider. 1st, now is not the time to visit. And 2nd, even if a crackdown was not imminent, HKG sucks as mongering destination and has for some time. In fact it is one of my least favorite girly destinations in all of Asia. Macau, on the other hand, is great, albeit expensive and both MNL & BKK are much more entertaining and fun alternatives than HKG. The last time I was in HKG, approximately 10 months ago, I could not believe how bad the girly situation had become there. I checked out the most popular bars in Wan Chai and all the girls except maybe 1 or 2 were undoable, fat, old, and fugly! Don't go! But if you do go, don't say you were not warned.

Charles Dickin
08-26-19, 14:03
I did some research for "Holiday Spa" and couldn't come up with anything solid. Is it located on the premises of a Holiday Inn hotel? If so, it appears there's two in Macau.I haven't been to this sauna. There are two Holiday Inns but the one in question is on Rua de Pequim. So NOT the one on Cotai. The spa doesn't seem to be part of the hotel but I don't know for sure.

The information I found was 2046155.

I also found info on other websites.


a place called Holiday Spa which is located near Holiday Inn Macau. It is located along a foot traffic only lane. Proceeded upstairs and did the usual undressing and showering. I did find a non-English website maybe Chinese or Japanese that had some photos of the foot traffic only alley. But I can't find it again.

VivaMattyVegas
08-26-19, 18:06
I'm going to say tanks rolling in from Mainland China. Have you not been watching the news? It's much more than just "protests" While no one has died thankfully, if tanks roll in, I expect that to sadly change.


What's the worst that can happen in HK? Those protest are just protest I would go to the building were girls are waiting behind the door, Fiji building I believe saw hot girls from videos of those kind of buildings around Hong Kong.

VivaMattyVegas
08-26-19, 18:07
Thanks for the link to the post, I was able to find it on Google Maps thanks to that information. Much appreciated.


I haven't been to this sauna. There are two Holiday Inns but the one in question is on Rua de Pequim. So NOT the one on Cotai. The spa doesn't seem to be part of the hotel but I don't know for sure.

The information I found was 2046155.

I also found info on other websites.

I did find a non-English website maybe Chinese or Japanese that had some photos of the foot traffic only alley. But I can't find it again.

VivaMattyVegas
08-27-19, 03:33
I wanted to thank everyone for their time and advice the past couple of days about Macau. I hope that others will be able to use the info as well. I've decided to cancel the Hong Kong portion of the trip. I don't see the situation in HK getting better in any reasonable period of time and for my own peace of mind, I changed my plans.

Ryouko
08-27-19, 05:16
Wow, how do you get lucky to spend almost two weeks in Macau, I've been to Macau three times prior, the longest being 11 days.

November will be my next trip but only for 5 solid days, leave from USA on a Thursday and arrive Macau on a Saturday, then leave on a Thursday. Enjoy reading the reviews, I know of all or most of the places mentioned in this Forum but somehow I've found other places and never partaked at Rio, 18 Sauna, Emperor, Familia Nobre.

There is a place called Sauna One in the Grand Emperor hotel that seemed to be high end or pricey and pretty good quality there, but didn't partake, haven't heard a lot of reviews on Sauna One here.

Have been to Darling 1 and tried Houva, Golden Sauna, Beverly, and Big Boss. Then there's my budget go to sauna Holiday Spa.

I'll provide some reviews later.Well I do have PTO and am using up a lot of it for this trip. This is my first vacation this year, sadly. Originally I intended to go in September but we have a project deadline due October 1st.

Wish we could have met if you were there in October! Sometimes it gets a bit lonely in the layovers between banging hot sauna girls. That's why I'd love to meet fellow mongers.

I would really recommend Rio and Familia Nobre. Those are the best. Familia Nobre is cheapish as well.

Ryouko
08-27-19, 05:34
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Familia Nobre

The next night I went to Familia Nobre, the second famous Macau sauna.

Before going inside the sauna I took a look at some of the pictures. The male attendant didn't like that and hurried me along.

The sauna was very nicely empty and quiet when I arrived, after changing. I ordered the cheapest food in the menu and ate some small okayish portions. In hindsight I should have ordered something better and more expensive.

Then I had a thigh massage. One of the very pretty young small Vietnamese girls took me to a separate room. The massage was nice. I asked her to join me afterwards, since I heard a lot of sauna girls are happy to do so. But she wouldn't do it and kept on saying in a flirting tone that she wasn't one of the ones that had sex.

So then I went to see the girls who do have sex, haha. They called a line-up in the hall, and honestly it was an amazing shock to see so many beautiful girls standing close to you asking you to pick them.

I turned away from the more expensive Korean and CIS options and chose from a group of young beautifully half-naked girls dressed in blue, who were the least expensive. Later I found out they were Vietnamese.

My chosen girl took me hand-in-hand and gave me the full service. She washed me and took care of me for a very long time. Before we got to the bed, I actually had to go to the restroom since I'd just drank a lot of water for dinner.

Then, when she got naked she let me hold her and kiss her all over, while she smiled, which was very nice. Then she put herself on top of me, and we both moaned and went at it wildly. I think that she thought I had cum during cowgirl, so she was surprised when I flipped her over and we continued in doggy (if I remember correctly) and missionary. We actually really deeply connected, and it was the best sex I've ever had.

After that she let me hold her perfect body and kiss beautiful hair again. She also seemed amused and made gestures of our sex and said that she had previously had clients like that. Then I was nervous and tried to ask her to come to my hotel. She intuited it first and asked for my WeChat. We added each other, and she said that she'the come at 7:00 am, after her shift ended. We walked out arm-in-arm, and she kissed me on the lips before leaving.

Total: 2621 pataca.

Member #4698
08-27-19, 13:00
What's the worst that can happen in HK? Those protest are just protest I would go to the building were girls are waiting behind the door, Fiji building I believe saw hot girls from videos of those kind of buildings around Hong Kong.I agree with you that 141 walk-ups and 141 dot com hotel reservation girls are your best bets in HKG these days since the bar girls are of such low quality. On my recent 2 night layover I took a sex break the 1st night since paying a bar girl that resembles my 50 year old Brazilian house maid back home was not on to do list. LOL. On my 2nd night I hooked up with an attractive Taiwanese 141 dot com hotel reservation girl for 1,800 HKG Dollars. She was fine, but not near as fine as my Macau Chinese model girls and her session was more or less ordinary. YMMV. It depends on the girl.

But "What's the worst that can happen in HKG?" The tanks roll in, and after a series of brief street battles in which hundreds are killed / thousands beaten up and arrested, the city goes under a tight lockdown with strict curfews enforced. Meanwhile the airport is shut down. No planes in or out. What are the odds of the China military moving in and taking over? Pretty good in my humble estimation since I do not see the demonstrators quitting and I do not see the mainland communist government giving in. But I could be wrong. Nobody knows what's going to happen. That's the point.

Member #4698
08-27-19, 13:17
No, the intention of the trip is not purely for mongering. You seem to have a pretty good handle on the situation. I hope you have a safe journey. I would still advise you to arrange your itinerary so as to spend as little time in HKG as necessary.

Note: Macau is best on weeknights Sunday night to Thursday night. The crowds descend on Macau on the weekends driving hotel prices through the roof and crowding up everything including the saunas. Rio Sauna is very enjoyable on weeknights, for example, with plenty of time during the lineup (Showtime) to select the girl you want. I have never experienced racial preferences or prejudices on the part of the managers (hosts) or the girls when I have been there.

IMHO Rio has the best lineup followed up closely by Familia Nobre. Darling 1 also has a few possibilities, but Darling 1 is not a sauna. It is like a BKK Soapy. Excellent Sauna in the Emperor Grand Hotel is a small, but 1st class joint. Victoria Sauna & Club 9 both in the L'Arc Hotel (separate entrances) are very high class and worth checking out. Emperor Sauna in the Emperor Hotel & The One the Landmark Hotel both get very good ISG reviews from time to time. I have never been there. And lastly East Spa in the Waldo Hotel and East Castle Spa round out the list of high class Macau bordellos. I used to frequent East Spa a lot when I first started visiting Macau, I had a lot of good times there, but I kept finding better looking girls in Rio and Familia Nobre, so I stopped my visits to East and have not been there in a few years.

Read my Macau Trip Report based on my Oct/Nov 2018 trip. I had a great time once I accepted the outrageous price point and I hooked up with a number of really attractive and memorable girls in both Rio and FN. I am still in touch with one of my Rio girls, a real beauty.

Ryouko
08-29-19, 05:31
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Viet Girl Long Time

My Familia Nobre Viet girl agreed to meet me for long-time in my hotel, after the best sex in my life and adding WeChats.

What was shocking was her WeChat however. In the picture I saw a middle-aged woman and a young boy. Had I just had sex with a 45-year-old without knowing it? There were more pictures of that woman. I puzzled about it and was relieved upon her arrival to see that she was definitely not 45-years-old.

Her WeChat also had her seemingly sick all the time. Her WeChat Moments were her arm wrapped in gauze, medicine, scratches on her legs, red patterns on her back (later Googled to be a Vietnamese way of treating colds), and remarks Google translates to "Oww. " and "Pain. " I guess prostitution really does suck for the girl.

She also had some pictures of two to three really ugly girls and dark skin hanging out. Was the angel I'd just fucked actually ugly in daylight? It's actually still puzzling to compare her WeChat Moments brown skin and ugliness to the white skin and perfect figure I saw in the sauna and hotel. The magic of make-up?

While I was scared by her WeChat, we also bargained. She gave a high price several thousand pataca above market-rate and I gave a low one. She finally accepted 2000 after I didn't respond for a while to her message (not on purpose).

When she arrived, I was really relieved to see that she was as beautiful as I'd seen in the sauna. However, I was thinking maybe we should just cuddle and spoon. I was worried about STD's and her being sick. I also noticed her right eye was completely red after she took out her contacts.

Anyways, I held her and we conversed. I quickly found out her Chinese was much worse than I'd thought. So we ended up doing Google Translate using out native tongues (English and Vietnamese). I'd say a good 75% of our meaning was lost, especially when I tried to make a joke. She said she needed money for her sick son in the hospital. She said she was sick, and was I scared? I was definitely scared but said it was okay.

Then we got naked, and what do you know, we did end up having sex. Shocking how it just happens when you're in bed with a beautiful sweet naked girl. I kissed this angel and held her all over. Then she put her condom with KY jelly on me. During missionary I found it harm to cum since I'd just had sex. So I thought and thought about impregnating this girl (hey, it's what turns me on) and marrying her. And then I came inside this angel.

She seemed to find me saying "Oh my god" quite funny and grabbed my neck after orgasm while repeating that. Haha. I also noticed that the front picture of her phone had a young guy. Her pimp / temporary boyfriend?

Then we slept arm in arm. It felt amazing to sleep with a girl all night like that. However, I found it a bit hard to actually sleep, especially since I'd gotten several hours of sleep beforehand.

I woke up and tried to wait for her so we could have lunch. I did computer work for several hours, waiting, until 4:00 pm. She was still sleeping. I decided to go to lunch and rouse her. We hugged outside the hotel and parted. Afterwards she asked if I was angry. I said no; I just have Resting Asshole Face. I said I wished we could have married in different circumstances.

Afterwards she messaged me once or twice with "Hi!" or "Ha. " But whenever I say, "What does 'Ha' mean?" she doesn't respond. Anybody familiar with Vietnamese girls able to explain the "Ha" phenomenon?

Total: 2000 pataca (probably lower than market price).

Ryouko
08-31-19, 03:44
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Darling 2

I spent the next day touring all over Macau. I'd put together a very long list of places (way too long, in hindsight) to visit from Lonely Planet. I got through around half of them and plan to hit the other half next time in Macau.

I looked at Darling 1 but was determined not to go for a reason I forget. Anyways I saw that the women sitting in the terrace were really hot and was tempted. In person they are a lot hotter than what you see in the Youtube videos. But I kept my libido in check and left, which I regret. I eventually did visit Darling 1.

In the middle, I visited Darling 2 - as I wanted the threesome experience and had heard about it. The place was located in the middle of nowhere, at B1, No. 87-89 Avenida do Ouvidor Arriaga. It was a pretty mediocre-looking place in a busy street. Actually I tried to open the door twice, feeling extremely embarrassed as there were tons of people walking in that street. But the door was locked. Then somebody came and opened it for me.

Inside the sampling was definitely smaller, maybe a couple dozen girls, sitting down spotlighted by colored lights. The quality, as I'd expected, was decent but not extraordinary. But I was there for the threesome, not the quality.

I picked a good-looking Vietnamese girl and asked her to pick her companion (as recommended by ISG). She picked an older girl, who ended up taking over.

Inside the room, the two girls stripped naked, and I lay in-between them. However, the atmosphere was kind of strange, businesslike. The older girl kept on talking in a friendly but completely non-sexual manner. It was as if I was talking with a couple of female friends, who were completely uninterested in me, about the weather. When I caressed them and grabbed their breasts, there was also basically zero reaction (probably because of surgery). It was weird to touch their breasts and just see no reaction.

We went in the bath and the older girl gave me a blowjob and offered to get me to pop. She was in front, while I was laying on the younger girl. I agreed. The blowjob was great, but the older girl cleverly redirected me away from her mouth just as I came. So it was basically a hand job.

After we came back to the bed, I actually couldn't get it back up. I started feeling pain deep inside and had to drink water, then go to the restroom. The girls were puzzled. I also found out that the younger girl could't speak any Chinese (and obviously not English). She'd smile and everything, but when I finally started talking with her rather than the older girl, she didn't understand anything I said.

Eventually the pain became too much and I just put my clothes on and left, but not before telling the older girl how clever she was. I've felt this type of pain very occasionally after masturbating, so wasn't too concerned about any health issues. I think it was because of too much sex, haha. In hindsight walking for hours in the hot sun, trying to go through dozens of locations to check off my Lonely Planet list, definitely also contributed.

I'm also really surprised how some people here apparently can pop two or three times in an hour, when they're middle-aged. I think there's some exaggeration.

All in all, Darling 2 was, as previously noted in ISG, full of decent but not great girls. The threesome was strangely dispassionate, as also noted previously in ISG. My conclusion from this experience is that women are biologically repelled by threesomes. I think most find the sight of another woman's naked body a turn-off, especially when that women is banging their man.

Darling 2 was a bad experience, but I do want to go one more time. I do want to try a full threesome, if only once.

Total: 2676 pataca.

Charles Dickin
09-01-19, 17:02
as I wanted the threesome experience and had heard about itI once tried a threesome at Darling 1. A Viet girl with big boobs picked me. I then chose a second girl who turned out to be Thai. The Viet was quite taken with me and the Thai was quite taken with the Viet's big naturals.

There was no girl on girl action. I didn't expect it. I was just following the advice of letting the girl pick the customer. But I wasn't sure I found the Viet attractive enough because I couldn't see her well enough from where I was sitting. I was too shy to try the comically giant binoculars that D1 provides. So I picked one I definitely did like the look of. I figured that if I didn't like looking at the Viet then I could look at the Thai. Also if the Thai turned out to be too artificial then I could at the Viet's naturalness. Both girls were very sweet natured and had good work ethics. They were both also good looking up close.

The best thing was that they spoke English to each other so I knew what they were saying. That's why I know the Thai loved the Viet's boobs. She was too shy to touch them though. I wish I'd encouraged it but enjoying a threesome takes training. I have tried a few times with threesomes in other places. But it's never been the threesome you want in your head. When the girls speak the same language they can easily waste much of the time chatting.

I don't think there's much chance of success with threesomes. Maybe if you practice and if you book pornstars or special escorts or girls from go-go lesbian shows. But it probably is never as raunchy as you dream.

I did find an alternate way for a good time multiway. At Golden Sauna I went with The "Golden" Girl a couple of times. I don't remember her name but it was something related to rain or showers. Very fitting. She could put out fires with that skill. The third time I visited she said that she had two friends who liked me. She brought them over one at a time. I hadn't given either a second glance before because neither were my type. Hair too short for a start. But I figured as they wanted me or at least wanted some income then it wouldn't hurt. I thought it would be fun. Even though I didn't fancy either friend enough on her own, one had a cute face and the other just enough curves. Both were typical Asian slim. Miss Squirt I did fancy so she definitely had to join us. She also had an excellent work ethic.

On our way out of the lounge a fourth girl tried to get herself invited to the party. I could hear my credit card groaning under the strain already so I didn't accept. I sometimes wonder if I should have. But I think that the more girls, the less time each one spends servicing you for the same fee.

You're maybe reading this for the dirty details. It wasn't really a foursome. It was just having sex with separate women in rapid succession. It was exhausting. My hopes went south right at the start. While her friends went for the towels, Miss Squirt gave me strict instructions banning DATY. She said she didn't want her friends to get jealous or something. I didn't want to upset her so I obeyed. Don't bother writing in if you think different. I had found a repeat girl that I didn't want to fall out with. I sometimes think what might have happened if I had been a naughty boy. But I can't imagine it would ever have led to the ladies loosening up and going no limits.

Only one girl did the wash route. One stood about in the shower as if waiting for a bus. Miss Squirt lay on the bed waiting. It was basically basic sex positions. New condom for each girl. Apart from being able to see multiple naked girls at once, the only event that made it different from one on one intercourse. While doing cowgirl, Miss Squirt stuck her tongue so far up the mine shaft that she could probably tickle my tonsils from underneath. I never had that before. I made a mental note never to kiss her again. I had previously enjoyed DFK with her on previous sessions. But now that was another memory ruined.

I don't remember names and numbers or costs. I remember it was as expensive as it was exhausting. And exciting and disappointing in equal amounts. All three girls were mainland China. Miss Golden Rain must have been 24 years old because she had a red rope round her waist. Although she had the ability to drown you with squirting, she was actually dry for intercourse and needed a lot of lube. I read here that's a turn off for many. But she did have a great work ethic. She was always asking "kiss this?" or "touch this?" or "make love?" She knew she was there to work.

Member #4698
09-01-19, 19:35
Threesomes are, in my humble experience, NOT something that you can order off the menu and hope to get good results. All my satysfying threeomes came about by chance and developed slowly over time while I was minding my own business LOL focusing on repeat sexual encounters numerous times with a favorite Go Go girl and then along the way met her girl friends, bought her GF's drinks in the bar, and was subsequently offered the threesome possibility by my repeat girl and her GF. It was always their idea. Currently I have two threesome GFE pairs that I am very fond of: my two Bottoms Bar, Burgos St, MNL girls & my two Crazy House, Soi Cowboy, BKK girls. It is going on 3 & 4 years respectively with both sets of girls.

In the Bottoms Bar situation I began shagging one girl over two consecutive trips to Manila and then one night when I returned, she was not in the bar, so I chose another similarly attractive girl to barfine. After our session, the 2nd girl saw that I had the other girls ID on my Viber app and she said that they were good friends. I took that with a grain of salt, but when I showed up in Bottoms the next night, both girls were waiting for me, Ha Ha, together, and it turned out that they were indeed best friends and both were very happy to see me. What good fortune! I told them that I would barfine the other girl that night to even the score, but they both so sweetly, with their tops off and their tits in my face, begged me to barfine them both, so I could not refuse and the rest is history. The three of us are going on 3.5 years. But the sex is 2 on 1 ie no lesbian action, just one girl initially blows me or rides me cowgirl while the other girl sits on my face. Then after I orgasm, we take a break, I order room service, we eat, we drink more Tequila, and then we start up again with the girls trading positions.

It is a similar story with my two Crazy House Thai girls except that in this case I was barfining the 1st girl many times over repeat trips to Thailand before she suggested that I could also barfine her sexy little friend if I wanted to. It then turned out that the sexy little friend is a little bit interested in exploring her bi-sexual tendencies with her GF, my original barfine, so many times the two of us are down chest high kissing my original girl's tits at the same time, but the straight girl never lets it go much further than that. Ha Ha. Except one time when the girls and I had consumed near a fifth of Tequila and the bi girl friend and I went down town on the original girl's pussy. It was a short menage a trois DATY moment before the straight girl caught on to what was happening and stopped it, but it was a fun! And thus far it has never happened again.

But in contrast to these two very enjoyable threesome relationships, my experience with ordering instant menage a trois off the menu is that it never works out to my complete satisfaction, so I think it is a big waste of money and time. I did it a couple of times 4 or 5 years ago in Devils Den in Pattaya, a bordello dedicated to threesomes, but I never really liked both girls equally and I found it was a drag having a threesome when I only liked one of the girls. As a result I only ordered one girl take out from Devils Den after those initial threeways because there was only one girl in that bordello that I really liked and wanted to shag. Then when she retired I stopped going there.

It is also a drag when the girls are not into servicing me at the same time ie when the threesome devolves into 2 sequential shags where one girl waits in the shower or on the balcony while I get it one with the 1st girl and then the girls trade places so I can get it on with the 2nd girl while the first girl waits on the balcony or in the bathroom. This situation usually occurred in Go Go's or bars when I tried to rush the 3 way arrangement in one or two nights and not let it develop on its own over time. So I believe that if a punter does not have the time to let the threesome possibility come about on its own over time as I outlined up above, he will most likely not experience a satisfying session let alone a real menage a trois. It takes time. It can't be ordered off a menu or rushed into being. At least that's my two cents on the subject. But of course, YMMV. Good luck.

Ryouko
09-02-19, 02:43
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

East Castle

I went to East Castle pretty late in the night. I kind of wanted to sleep but decided that I needed to have some sex first, haha.

East Castle was a short walk in a typical big Macau hotel, which was kind of empty that late at night.

Inside they had the pretty typical sauna scene. I don't remember much to make it stand-out. I do remember getting a Vietnamese girl to give me a shoulder massage, which was the nicest part of the experience. I asked her why there are so many Vietnamese in Macau, and she said that Macau was well-known and offered jobs. I showed her a Vietnamese friend I have in America.

I asked for a line-up and I remember it being pretty good, probably lots of 8's and 9's. As usual I tried to get the girl who smiled at me. She was tall with long legs.

I wanted to try COB, and I planned to ask management to force my girl to do that if possible. Before doing so I told the lady what I wanted to do, and she agreed but lectured me about how management couldn't know. She said there were some things you could do but not tell the managers. I'm not sure if she was telling the truth or lying.

She also gave me a list where you do role-play. I chose an airline role. Unfortunately, the lady was very annoyed by my Chinese skills during the role-play, which are okay but not great. She constantly said that I couldn't understand her and that we had communication issues. And oh my god how could she overcome this difficulty? I was pretty annoyed because I think I understood most of what she said. Some Chinese people say this stuff about my Chinese, but most think my Chinese is adequate. And the other Chinese girls I'd fucked did not express this belief.

She tried to put on a condom during the blowjob but I rejected, which annoyed her more, especially since I'd misunderstood her and accepted the CBJ when she asked. Yeah she was right that I don't know the Chinese slang for condom. Most Chinese don't say that in ordinary life; I can't memorize every bit of specialized Chinese vocabulary.

Anyways the sex was good as usual, especially the doggy style. And she was quite hot. When I was about to cum, I pulled off my condom and tried to cum on her breasts. But what happened next was really surprising. I slowly lost my erection and couldn't do it. It was not at all like what they show in pornography. I guess porn lies haha.

After that we got into another argument. I tried to continue having sex with her but she refused. After a lot of confusion and Youdao translate I found out that she was saying the session was over since I'd cum, which I definitely had not. We argued and I learned a brand new word in Chinese!

After a lengthy but insistent discussion she agreed to bang until I popped. She came and licked my nipple while stroking my member and got it up. Then we had sex until I popped. Then we left, her pretty annoyed.

Overall this was a frustrating session, and I will not go back to East Castle. Still, it appears that they do have some form of quality control. Like she could have just refused the BBBJ or refused to continue after I'd pulled out but failed to do COB. But there was something making her afraid of a customer complaint, something forcing her to continue until her job was done.

Overall, having arguments about my Chinese level with an arrogant prostitute was not enjoyable. On the other hand, I did get to doggy-style and cum inside her, which is not something you can say for most beautiful women who ***** at you. This experience also permanently imprinted the Chinese word "cum" inside my mind, which I had not known before. Positives and negatives.

Total: 3366 pataca.

Ryouko
09-02-19, 02:46
With that experience complete, I'm still not sure what the proper procedure to get COB or CIM in saunas is. Is it allowed in saunas?

Do you talk to management, and then they tell the girl to do it? Or do you talk to the girl without telling management?

Ryouko
09-04-19, 04:20
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Rio Room Service

Rio has an advertisement in which they shown a beautiful naked woman enjoying a room service massage, with a big phone number invitation. Knowing just what exactly Rio's massages actually are, I was pretty excited and decided to try it out.

When I called the number they said that they would send somebody, making it very explicit that it would be a normal massage. I was kind of disappointed and asked if there was anything more. They then directly talked about sex and said they'd send a girl.

I kind of expected to get a girl who'd been having trouble attracting customers, and I'm pretty sure I got that. The girl didn't look very impressive (heavily made up and older looking, although still much better than anything I could catch at home). She was accompanied by a male attendant. He asked if she was okay. After some hesitation, I said yes and paid him.

The "massage" was pretty typical of the sauna experience (enjoyable and she took good care of me). I think that it might have been a bit short. The lady said the bed was too soft. The sex was enjoyable, and we got into a nice rhythm where she would squeeze just as I pushed inside her. This was the pattern that eventually made me cum.

After that she seemed excited to leave and asked if she could go, which I affirmed. Before leaving, I told her that her make-up made her look much older (I think she mentioned she was in her young twenties). She told me that she knew and had been told that repeatedly, but that the make-up was necessary for her to get noticed in the huge line-up.

All in all, it was nice that I didn't have to go all the way down to the sauna and spend an hour getting changed / going through the pre-services. But sometimes the girl won't be the most beautiful.

Total: 3180 pataca.

Ryouko
09-04-19, 04:21
Also I noticed that the Rio room service girl was another tall Chinese girl, who gave not great service. Anecdotally a lot of the tall Chinese girls from the northeast were somewhat arrogant and seem to think that they were better because they are taller. I remember consistently receiving better service from short girls.

Ryouko
09-07-19, 07:43
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Golden

My final sauna was at Golden. I'd heard that the ladies walk among you talking to you first and looked forward to it.

The sauna was smaller and cozier and located in an independent building just a few minutes away from Rio. All the saunas are actually located in walkable distance actually. The first thing I noticed was that it had a lot more people. There were dozens, compared to the fairly empty places I'd been to before (probably because it was Friday).

When I entered, I was immediately accosted by a plump and sadly ugly lady, who tried to hug me. I dodged the hug and went to the seat (she glared at me later after my session).

I saw some people getting baths in seated showers and tried it out after awkwardly moving to the showers and being conspicuous. Sadly, I was next to two other naked guys and intently did not gaze at them. The girl was young and decent, dressed in only a bra and panties, and I enjoyed her hands on my member. She dodged when I lightly groped her.

I saw a hot young girl approaching different customers. I gazed at her, and she moved on to talk with me. We then went hand-in-hand to boom-boom.

The service was very nice and pleasurable per the usual. She kissed and touched me all over and gave me BBBJ. I could look in the mirror and just watch in amazement as this beautiful nymph, who I could never get outside a sauna, got on her knees and just sucked my dick with all her ability. It was just like a JAV, except it was happening in real life.

Then we fucked, which as usual was great. I loved the missionary (my favorite position) and went in varying positions, slower and faster, which she seemed to enjoy very much.

The unfortunate part, however, was that again I couldn't pop. I think it was just too much sex and the condom made it difficult. So afterwards we were lying naked together, and I asked her for long-time outside the sauna. She said 5000 pataca, I said an outrageously low number, we haggled. Finally she said 3500 pataca. I thought about it and finally accepted, as this naked beautiful sauna girl hugged me tight and pleaded. We agreed to meet at 3:00 am, after her shift ended.

Then I was kind of embarrassed and tried to ask for CIM. I know some girls don't like it. But she accepted with a naughty smile and did a very good job of sucking me; she was very experienced. But sadly I lost my erection and just couldn't pop.

Afterwards I ate, next to another man joking with a sauna girl. He was from Hong Kong, and I remember she said his Chinese was terrible. They had a final call at 1:30 am for several girls. A lot of them lined up and I was tempted, but wanted to wait for my girl. I saw her talk with another person beside me and walk with him to the room. I felt no jealousy, as that was simply her job.

At around 3:30 am her shift ended and we met and then walked, hand-in-hand, to my hotel.

Total: 1923 pataca.

Ryouko
09-09-19, 02:32
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

China Girl Long Time

After arriving in the hotel room, I offered her some Portuguese egg tarts that I'd bought, but she wasn't interested. She undressed. I remember that, lying on the bed, she put her breasts together and said that they weren't fully firm and upright due to their natural weight. I told her natural was best.

We had sex and, as usual, it was enjoyable. Unfortunately, I again wasn't able to pop. Part of it was probably too much sex, and part of it was probably mental at this point. Additionally, she had this habit of trying to squeeze hard when I softened, which unfortunately just made me soften even more.

After that we lay together and slept. Again, it was very pleasant. I love the feeling of cuddling lying naked with a girl after sex and going to sleep. Sadly, I haven't had much experience doing that and again found it hard to sleep. I could feel her heartbeat, but somehow the only thing I could concentrate on was that instead of sleeping. She also coughed occasionally.

Sometime in the morning I was roused again, and I started stroking her. She caressed me back, and we ended up having sex again, her mounting me in the dark. I'm surprised at how skillfully she was able to do all that while putting a condom on me at the same time! But again I wasn't able to pop. I think she was somewhat disappointed in being unable to fulfill her womanly duty, since she mentioned it once or twice. Of course I was also disappointed. A lot of it was probably mental to be frank.

Afterwards I joined her in the shower together (she didn't like that and left quickly; probably she considered the shower a private moment for herself). Then we went on to have lunch, paid by me of course. The conversation was okay but not great; she took selfies and seemed to kind of have a mental shield that made everything seem like "business. " Can't blame her for that. I paid; then she wanted to purchase some snacks before going back to work, kindly paid by me of course, and eagerly added some more items just before I paid (including Portuguese egg tart). Then we hugged and she went her way.

Then I went back to my hotel and finally was able to sleep. I slept all afternoon and woke up after all the tourist sites I'd planned to visit were closed.

In this writing it may seem like long-time was a bit of a disappointing experience. But it wasn't; I really enjoyed it and will try to book her again and pop inside her successfully this time, haha.

Total: 3864 pataca (3500 long-time, 364 meals, probably higher than market price).

Ryouko
09-11-19, 06:21
Context: I went to my first trip to Macau last year, hearing of the famous saunas, which supposedly offer the best of all of East Asia. I enjoyed it a lot and plan to go again soon. I'm a younger ABC (American-Born Chinese), and I'm going to write some of my reviews in the following posts.

I'm also going to Macau from October 6th to October 19th. If anybody is in the area I would really love to meet. PM me.

Darling 1

It has my last day in Macau, and I was leaving that afternoon. Since the passionate but peopless experience with my China girl, I really wanted to have sex and pop one last time before leaving this paradise. However, most of the saunas have nobody in the mornings.

I decided to go to Darling 1, as I heard it does business 24/7 and I still remembered the hot women the other time. It was located in the Masters Hotel, pretty far away from the other saunas. The building wasn't anything nice to look at.

There were a lot fewer women, of lower quality, in the morning. I tried to look and chose a Vietnamese girl who looked hot. We went to the room.

The light was not very bright, but in person she looked a lot worse than from afar. Was she in her thirties? I'm not sure. Her make-up also was painted in a way that seemed to make her look really tired and abused, especially her eyes. Or was that my imagination? It was really hard to tell in the light. Finally on her back she had those bloody patterned scratches that the long-time Vietnamese girl had also had.

I was afraid I couldn't get it up, but of course I had no problem once the darling went to work. The session was the usual. One very unfortunate thing I noticed was a cockroach crawling on the floor during the session.

Another thing that I noticed was that she chewed some gum and then kissed me, probably in preparation for DFK. But I dodged and just did a light kiss (I'm afraid of herpes, haha). She seemed pretty amused by that and kissed me on the lips a couple of times during the end.

We had sex, and to my surprise I came early inside her during cowgirl. It was pretty nice as usual.

Afterwards I tried to ask her about the bloody scratches on her back. But we couldn't communicate, sadly. Later I Googled it and found out that it's called "gua sha" for treating colds.

I'm still thinking of going back to Darling 1 during the afternoon, when there are beautiful girls. Funny there are so many saunas that I want to go back to!

Total: 1600 pataca.

Ryouko
09-11-19, 06:24
So, is anybody reading these reports? I know Natty Bumpo and Charles Dickin have commented (thanks guys). Other than that, I seem to be typing into a vast emptiness haha.

Joe Karnavic
09-11-19, 19:39
So, is anybody reading these reports? I know Natty Bumpo and Charles Dickin have commented (thanks guys). Other than that, I seem to be typing into a vast emptiness haha.Yes Ryouko, I am reading your extensive reports with interest. Thanks for detailed reports. I was in Macau few months ago and had some lovely tall Chinese models in Rio. Superlative experience. I posted a FR then.

Keep up the good work.

Charles Dickin
09-12-19, 01:38
So, is anybody reading these reports?Keep it up Ryouko.

I'm interested to read about your next trip. Perhaps you will try some of the non standard saunas and maybe the pensao.

Skepti10
09-12-19, 07:44
So, is anybody reading these reports? I know Natty Bumpo and Charles Dickin have commented (thanks guys). Other than that, I seem to be typing into a vast emptiness haha.I'm also reading (here and on s141). Excellent stuff!

Whomer
09-23-19, 00:56
So, is anybody reading these reports? I know Natty Bumpo and Charles Dickin have commented (thanks guys). Other than that, I seem to be typing into a vast emptiness haha.You didn't.

Your reports are one of the best here since a long time. I like how you describe your experiences and in particular how respectful you write about women and girls.

I'm around here since decades, have written some reports, and got only a few feedbacks.

So, don't be too disappointed if there isn't so much reaction, but you can be sure that your posts make a difference for many others.

TC & SS.

Whomer.

Whomer
09-23-19, 01:20
Why are you planning to visit HKG for 8 nights? If you have a reason for going other than getting laid or being a tourist ie a business purpose, postpone it, or government purpose, so be it, just keep yourself abreast of the political situation and be prepared to change your plans at a moment's notice. It could get real bad there fast and at any time.

But, If you are going to HKG for primarily mongering purposes, ie recreational reasons, then I strongly advise you to reconsider. 1st, now is not the time to visit. And 2nd, even if a crackdown was not imminent, HKG sucks as mongering destination and has for some time. In fact it is one of my least favorite girly destinations in all of Asia. Macau, on the other hand, is great, albeit expensive and both MNL & BKK are much more entertaining and fun alternatives than HKG. The last time I was in HKG, approximately 10 months ago, I could not believe how bad the girly situation had become there. I checked out the most popular bars in Wan Chai and all the girls except maybe 1 or 2 were undoable, fat, old, and fugly! Don't go! But if you do go, don't say you were not warned.100% agreed. Living since long time in Dongguan / Shenzhen area I always loved to go to HK for a few days. As Natty wrote, HK 2019 isn't anymore HK 2009 or 1999 reg. Mongering and girls in general. While there had been still some places where you can go for mongering, the current political situation isn't fun. I'm awaiting that countries will raise travel warnings for HK soon. I was now three times trapped in protests (at HKIA, Wanchai and Prince Edward), and believe me -even I fully understand why people are angry and was they want to fight for- I'm going to avoid to be involved in which way ever into a HK protest.

Follow Natty's advice.

Gaaraownzz
10-06-19, 01:26
So, is anybody reading these reports? I know Natty Bumpo and Charles Dickin have commented (thanks guys). Other than that, I seem to be typing into a vast emptiness haha.Hey,

I'll be visiting Macau for on 10/12-10/14. Interested in meeting up? In the process of upgrading for PM. Hopefully it clears soon.

MacauAdventure
10-10-19, 20:04
Hello everyone,

Headed to Macau next month for my first time and am very excited. I've read through the threads / forum, and still have some questions.

I am a Westerner, a little apprehensive but excited to check out 5-6 Saunas.

1) Do they accept cash, or only Credit Card. I know they keep track of everything you buy and charge you ate the end, but is there a service charge as well? Do you tip then? Do you tip as you go?

2) I know Cleanliness is VERy important, but I also know that I am going to probably deal with some Western Discrimination. I have a beard, and I also heard providers may not like that. But, if I do not know Chinese, bit am wiling to pay top dollar after the "shows" to get the higher end girls, will tipping managers help?

3) Are Cell Phones allowed in Saunas? I would be nervous to leave it in a locker.

4) Do I have to bring identification to the Sauna? License. Passport. Etc.

5) Do the Thigh Massages in the main room usually end with you cumming. Or are they really just to get you ready for a FS session.

6) I am very intrigued by this East Spa and the Games and Party. Can someone elaborate on that?

7) At east spa. Whats an AV Session?

I am sure I will have more questions. But any help you can provide is VERY helpful.

Charles Dickin
10-11-19, 13:38
I'm sure all of this is in the forum somewhere. In case it wasn't, it is now.


1) Do they accept cash, or only Credit Card. I know they keep track of everything you buy and charge you ate the end, but is there a service charge as well? Do you tip then? Do you tip as you go?Usually both. Ask at reception when you enter. Also about service charge. Ask to pay in MOP because it's extra expense if you let them convert from MOP to your card's currency. Also ask about becoming VIP because sometimes it's worth it even if you only go once.



2) I have a beard, and I also heard providers may not like that. But, if I do not know Chinese, bit am wiling to pay top dollar after the "shows" to get the higher end girls, will tipping managers help?Then go for the ones who make eye contact with you. You should do that anyway. I don't know if it's possible to tip anyone except the ones who hand you the 1970's robes. You write the amount on a piece of paper and it gets added to your bill.

From my experience flashing the cash in the sauna is frowned upon. Look back for Natty's report on the banana massage lady at Rio.



3) Are Cell Phones allowed in Saunas? I would be nervous to leave it in a locker.Yes. They will even provide cable and charger and a small table for your laptop. Bring a waterproof cover for your electronics when you are in the shower. You will have a starring role in Big Trouble in Little Sauna if you try filming anything. Remember no one knows you went there.


4) Do I have to bring identification to the Sauna? License. Passport. Etc.No. Well maybe if you look 16.


5) Do the Thigh Massages in the main room usually end with you cumming. Or are they really just to get you ready for a FS session.They are very skilled at hitting the brakes just in time. In some cases they will let you on the third consecutive massage. But that makes for a VERY expensive HJ.


7) At east spa. Whats an AV Session?Probably an overpriced minor disappointment or maybe something a bit better than you expected. It's a role play. Get in the swing. Jump in with both feet. Say yes to whatever the lady offers. Otherwise you're not getting value for money. But don't fantasize about it in advance or you might be disappointed.

It might take you more than one session to get into it. Also some of the ladies don't make use of the full toolkit. So do two AV sessions. Pick a Viet for one and a non-model Chinese for the other. I don't think the super expensive models do AV anyway.

MacauAdventure
10-11-19, 15:14
I'm sure all of this is in the forum somewhere. In case it wasn't, it is now.

Usually both. Ask at reception when you enter. Also about service charge. Ask to pay in MOP because it's extra expense if you let them convert from MOP to your card's currency. Also ask about becoming VIP because sometimes it's worth it even if you only go once.

Then go for the ones who make eye contact with you. You should do that anyway. I don't know if it's possible to tip anyone except the ones who hand you the 1970's robes. You write the amount on a piece of paper and it gets added to your bill.

From my experience flashing the cash in the sauna is frowned upon. Look back for Natty's report on the banana massage lady at Rio.

Yes. They will even provide cable and charger and a small table for your laptop. Bring a waterproof cover for your electronics when you are in the shower. You will have a starring role in Big Trouble in Little Sauna if you try filming anything. Remember no one knows you went there..Thank you for all your help. Very informative and helpful. I am sure more questions will pop up. Just anxious about making the most out of my time there (and not getting ripped off of course).

Charles Dickin
10-11-19, 21:03
Just anxious about making the most out of my time there (and not getting ripped off of course).Nothing to be anxious about. All sauna prices are a rip off if you only count the FS. But if you count the quality of the line up, lounge, spa facilities and inclusive food and drink it's not so bad. Think of it as a very expensive lousy meal with "attentive" service on the side.

If you believe the reports the real rip off is 18 Sauna at the Golden Sauna. Everyone is on the take.

Don't overthink your trip and stay flexible. Otherwise you will ruin your own trip.

If you are scared and want to experience a girl-free lounge with little pressure for massage then start at Beverly. It's a gentle introduction but not the best of anything. If you think you might be too shy to call for a line up then try Nobre because the line up is in the corridor away from the lounge. Or go to Golden because the service girls approach you. Only the Viet and non-model Chinese will approach you. The super expensive ones stay in the back.

Golden also has interactive shows for everyone Thur thru Sat maybe Sun if its busy. Evenings only, times vary. Usually you've just missed one. East has also interactive shows for everyone maybe every night. Nobre shows are for VIP only. Rio and Emperor just have line ups. If you're new to saunas and don't speak any form of Chinese then you won't get the pick of the girls in a line up or after a show. So pick about 20 min before you think there will be a show. Once the show has been advertised by changing the lightning or music you probably can't ask for a line up.

All saunas are crazy busy weekends. They are all 24 hour but the line up is minimal from 6 am to 2 pm. Maybe only 2 to 4 girls.

Honda Nsx90
10-14-19, 15:03
It's one of the lesser known spas, so I thought I give a review / contribution to this forum. It's in the INN Hotel Macau Taipa. The name is 帝28246;27700;30274; (dihu shiuliao). I couldn't find much review in the Western forums and only few in the Chinese / Japanese sites.

This spa / sauna is located in the INN Hotel Macau (28595;38272;30427;19990;37202;24215 on Taipa side. The name is 帝28246;27700;30274; (dihu shiuliao), or literal translation means Imperial Late Spa, but I saw the door small plate with "Oceanic Royal Spa" at the entrance. The shower area is fairly clean but small (9-10 shower booths) and a 8-10 people hot spa / pool. At the front of the bath area is the show stage with a pole (later on that). The space is more for about 20 girls and 20 guys, but the 8 pm show had 50-60 girls and probably 30-40 guys -- very crowded.

Show time supposed to be from 8 pm and on every hour (but I think they had a 9:30 pm squeezed in probably due to the weekend crowd. The crowd is more PRC than the usual Rio, 18, FN, or No. 1 mainstream SG / Malay kakis. The rest area has few "zones" and adds up to roughly 30 seats.

Call ahead for the free car pick-up (they pick-up pretty much anywhere within Macau) and you get the "member price". Member pkg prices range from HKD / MOP2,088 - 5,700 with double-fly for HKD / MOP1,500-1,700. Each session is 60 min, but I ended short of 40 minutes -- felt a bit rushed, but I think this is typical of Macau spa / sauna scene. The member pkg prices include a clean massage (your typical foot, head / shoulder or thigh). Food is basically complimentary with few dishes that you are supposed to select one out of 2-3 choices as member pkg.

Here comes the line-up. The 8 pm show had roughly 50-60 girls from SE Asia (Vietnam, Thai), PRC (various levels), Eastern European and Korean / Japanese (price range see above). The show starts with one of the sexy girl pole dance followed by rest of the girls catwalk in (though the stage is very small). I was surprised by the sheer amount of girls available. The MC did all the introductions of various levels of girls and prices as they parade in -- like Tokyo's Tsukiji fish market. If you like the girls, just raise your hand and shout out the girl's number to one of the managers / mama-san / papa-san, and they will take your wrist number and you go upstairs for your 60 minute session.

I usually like to wait for the 2nd show to pick (9 pm), but all my friends picked their's, so I caved in under peer pressure. I picked a PRC model (HKD / MOP2,500 range) from Chengdu - 25 yo. Nice be+ pair of melons.

The room is small (had a queen size bed and water bed, typical setup) compared to Rio or No. 1, but nice and functionally clean. The girl came in and did the usual small chit-chat. She asked if I wanted to do double-fly for an additional HKD1,700 -- she was trying to "push" her friend to join. I kindly declined, as I wanted to enjoy her service for 60 minutes and was thinking of having a second session with a different girl later in the night. The water bed wash is your standard SOP. She did gave me a very nice BBBJ while on the water bed and she knows when to stop. The 10 min water bed scene quickly switched to bed. She asked for the second time if I want to do double-fly with her friend, and I kindly declined again.

She asked me to lie face down so she can start her procedures. She went through the usual cat bath and AR. She asked me to turn around and she asked me for the 3rd time if she can bring her friend in for double-fly. She said her friend likes to get DATY. This is no getting a bit annoying for being asked 3rd time, so I say I prefer to DATY her. I flipped her and touched her meimei and she had already applied her KY jell while she did the preparation after shower. Did a bit of fingering on her, but she didn't like to be fingered. She capped me and we did missionary for a while she did her fake moans. I tried the rear entry for a bit but she didn't like that, so went back to missionary and I popped. We quickly washed up and she quickly dashed off so she can join the 9 pm catwalk. So my overall session was around 40-45 minutes. Short of the advertised 60 min.

Impressions:

- Facility is small but clean.

- Big hall only has around 30 seats for resting.

- Surprised by the amount of girls available (50-60). Per my girl, she said more PRC girls come to Macau now as China side has cleaned up these services and due to HK protests, girls all come to Macau to work instead. I also wonder if due to after China National Holidays, all the girls are back to work as well.

Maybe other members in this forum can comment on their experience.

Charles Dickin
10-15-19, 14:04
It's one of the lesser known spas, so I thought I give a review / contribution to this forum. It's in the INN Hotel Macau Taipa. The name is 帝28246;27700;30274; (dihu shiuliao). I couldn't find much review in the Western forums and only few in the Chinese / Japanese sites.Thanks for the report on somewhere different. It belongs to the Emperor and Grand Emperor group.

Buksida1
10-15-19, 16:45
So, is anybody reading these reports? I know Natty Bumpo and Charles Dickin have commented (thanks guys). Other than that, I seem to be typing into a vast emptiness haha.I have read your report and found it informative and entertaining.

Penetrador
10-20-19, 13:29
Is Portuguese spoken in the saunas or in the city?

FKKLife
10-21-19, 04:54
Hi all,

Went to Rio spa based on the reports here, one tip is to try to get the membership In advance for 88 mop so it can save you anywhere from 300 mop to 800 mop for the girl you choose and you will need it cause it's crazy expensive here. Went on a Saturday night around 7 pm, a relaxing time with a good number of girls to choose from already. When you first get in you walk into the spa area and I saw the showtime right away, my first impression was I was OK it will probably get better I hope. I saw a couple standouts but not what I was expecting since the price is sky high. At first I thought that was all there was to this place, saunas, jacuzzis and pools, no one even mentioned the back area where I happened to stumble upon and that's where you can relax in lounges and eat and drink here. Food is not bad they have a buffet spread at the early dinner time and also choice of foods from menu, there's also a menu that charges for food, no thanks since you already paying over 2500 mop at a minimum here, take the freebies. So every 45 minutes or so a showtime happens and I watched a few of them before I finally chose a girl. It wasn't getting better after each show, pretty much the sake girls except for a few that would that you may have been with another customer but out of around 30 girls only 2 were attractive To me and one was 3500 and the other was 4500 mop! I took the 3500 Chinese and away we go. She was only 20 so great firm bod and young pretty face, she gave a good shower rub and BBBJ later to the bed for another BBBJ and sex. It was a good time but after checking out other options in Macau I recommend you being open minded and checking other saunas, like FN or go to darling 1. Had to check out Rio to see what the hype is all about but honestly I thought the others were better, at least on this trip, I'll give Rio one more chance to prove me wrong since I have the membership ha. Oh also met a hot street walker around the Wynn / starworld walking areas, got here down to 1500 mop, so keep your eyes open for these opportunities!

Stl Danish
10-22-19, 06:21
Is Portuguese spoken in the saunas or in the city?No. You'll see it on some signage, for streets and government stuff, but I found it really hard to navigate around Macau without knowing Cantonese. I thought knowing a little Portuguese might help, but it really was very little assistance.

Mobymogli1264
11-01-19, 16:04
Anyone know if there are saunas with theme rooms like hospital, flight etc?

Charles Dickin
11-02-19, 11:34
Anyone know if there are saunas with theme rooms like hospital, flight etc?Yes. The info is further back in the forum. Once you find it and use it please post reports of your trip.

Mobymogli1264
11-02-19, 22:08
Hi,

I have been to Rio and was charged upfront of around 1 k+ mop in the past. This is waived only if you got FS which is never my interest. I usually go for experiencing normal massages, shower from girls, shoulder or head massages with probably HJ multiple times and take alcohol. Last time my bill came up to 2800 with no FS and still my entrance fee wasn't waived.

Few questions.

1) any saunas which have lower fees like 400 or 500 HKD?

2) saunas which waive entrance fee in case the personal bill cross the fee?

I tried searching but this info isn't clear to me yet.

Thanks for your suggestions and I will report my feedback next week once back.

Also not much on east castle spa and big boss? How are they? Any detailed reports?

Thanks.

Charles Dickin
11-03-19, 17:05
Also not much on east castle spa and big boss? How are they? Any detailed reports?There are detailed reports in other places on the internet but nothing I could find from this year or last. Just try them and post a detailed report. You might need to try multiple different themes at East Castle. The reports I've read say the theme rooms are very varied in comfort. Some girls don't seem to like to the car wash.

Ryouko
11-05-19, 07:19
Hi,

I have been to Rio and was charged upfront of around 1 k+ mop in the past. This is waived only if you got FS which is never my interest. I usually go for experiencing normal massages, shower from girls, shoulder or head massages with probably HJ multiple times and take alcohol. Last time my bill came up to 2800 with no FS and still my entrance fee wasn't waived.

Few questions.

1) any saunas which have lower fees like 400 or 500 HKD?

2) saunas which waive entrance fee in case the personal bill cross the fee?

I tried searching but this info isn't clear to me yet.

Thanks for your suggestions and I will report my feedback next week once back.

Also not much on east castle spa and big boss? How are they? Any detailed reports?

Thanks.1) Probably not. Maybe Golden?

2) Only for FS.

East Castle: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1117-Sauna-Reviews&p=2365919&viewfull=1#post2365919.

Ryouko
11-05-19, 07:23
I finally had the chance to go to the famous 18 Sauna. Some people have said that its location at the Golden Dragon Hotel was run-down, but I didn't find the bottom floors that way; it seemed the hotel was a hotel.

Before going into the sauna, I took a look at the two other places mentioned alongside 18 - Golden Dragon Night Club and the Crazy Happy Show.

Layout

What was surprising to me was the lay-out of the place. From previous reviews I kind of expected a club and bar-like atmosphere, with music and people drinking; a Crazy Happy Show on one floor, and maybe 18 Sauna alongside KTV up some stairs.

It was not that way at all. Crazy Happy Show, Golden Dragon Night Club, and 18 Sauna are located on three different floors at the top of the hotel. They are completely isolated from one another.

Crazy Happy Show

I didn't actually go in here. Contrary to my expectations, Crazy Happy Show is not an open-style bar with performances. When the elevators open, there's a single attendant and a pair of thick purple doors to the right. You have to pay to go in. The outside is quite small, empty, and austere.

Golden Dragon Night Club

Next I wanted to check-out KTV and went to the floor for Golden Dragon Night Club. Again, there was an empty and austere entrance, with a few depressed-looking attendants and rows of empty KTV rooms behind heavy doors.

I fumbled around asking for girls without obviously sounding like the sex tourist I am, and they understood my intention when I started asking about the price.

I was directed to an empty room and a madam came to speak with me. She said it was about 6,000 pataca for overnight until 10:00 am the next day, with maybe 1,000 pataca for other charges. We could stay as long as we wanted in the room.

The madam seemed quite embarrassed and repeatedly said that the selection of girls was quite poor. That was surprising seeing as it was late night.

I asked for the girls anyways, and six sad-looking women came and lined up. After dismissing them, I asked her if this was normal; I got the feeling that it was. She recommended that I go to Club 9 and seek out the madam "Ke Er. " PM me if you want her WeChat contact (and are willing to spend a lot of money).

I was the only customer there during the entire time, before leaving.

Ryouko
11-06-19, 20:43
Okay, let's get down to the good stuff. This review kind of got away from me, especially the attempts at humor, so I hope you bear with me.

Overall, I'd say that I didn't like much 18 - the non-girl service was poor, the layout was not great, the lounges had you facing facing other men. The only thing I liked was the ladies. The ladies were hot and there was a very wide selection.

When stripping into a towel, I very unfortunately found myself next to several very excited young male attendants speaking fervidly to me. I still don't understand why saunas hire male attendants to watch over undressing customers. Safety?

After walking past the pool and putting on a sauna robe (with way too small pockets for my cellphone), I found myself in the lounge. The lounges are arranged in a square shape, meaning that you have a very clear and unpleasant view of your fellow male mongers. I'm very glad newer saunas arrange their seats in rows, so that that doesn't happen.

I was determined to clear up a point of confusion from my previous trip, which is what exactly the menu items Japanese Style Bathing and Female Scrubbing Service are. I went to the service ladies in the front and forgot the terms, went back and took a picture of the menu, and asked them what in the world "Japanese Style Bathing" is.

The young small genki Vietnamese girl I was speaking to smiled widely and said she had no clue, as she could not read English, Chinese, or Japanese. She floundered for awhile, before finally a colleague told us.

Just for clarification, here is what those terms mean:

Japanese Style Bathing: You sit in a toilet-like seat without a bottom and get showered and soaped by the girl. It ends with her sexually harassing your private parts.

Female Scrubbing Service: You get in a room and get a massage / scrub with the girl, again with lots of sexual harassment.

Being a fan of Japan, I asked for Japanese Style Bathing with the genki Vietnamese girl. The washing was on a seat located to the side of a wide circular room with the pool. Halfway through, a line-up started. I ended up naked and being washed in the middle of a line of sauna ladies, with more than a dozen mongers and several managers intently staring in my direction while they chose ladies.

For those excruciating ten minutes, I could only think that man, 18 Sauna really sucks.

Genki girl was very excited and wanted to give me another service. She kept on saying something like "xitou," "xitou". I had absolutely no idea what it meant. It kind of sounds like "wash head" in Chinese, but the next service she gave me was the Female Scrubbing Service. I initially didn't want it, but we did have a very stimulating conversation. I found out her salary was fairly low, something like 4000 pataca a month (or was it 3000? 7000? - I forget). I asked if she wanted to be one of the beautiful women who'd just lined up, but she expressed a lack of interest in being a prostitute.

Speaking about prostitution, let's talk about the line-ups themselves. They came every thirty minutes and were very large, maybe more than 50 ladies (the largest I've seen of all the saunas). In fact, the line-ups were so large that they stretched way past the line-up area and across the entire room. You couldn't see all the ladies on the far side. The women were hot too.

Before each line-up, you had four randomly selected naked girls dance on a see-through raised platform above. You could walk underneath them and take a look, and flashlights were provided to shine at them if you wished to do that. They then went in a room to hurriedly dress and were the first to appear in the line-up.

I heard 18 Sauna sometimes has games, but I didn't see that when I was there.

I picked a hot young girl in a strapless dress, who smiled at me during two line-ups.

In the room, I was shocked to see that close-up my chosen girl was extremely ugly. She looked used, with tired deep eyes. Her age was completely unknown from the make-up, but she might have been in her thirties. She also went from tall to being a head shorter than me once she took off her high heels.

I am still shocked at how make-up can turn such ugliness into beauty from afar. How do those girls do it?.

My chosen girl, who was Vietnamese, would randomly laugh during our time together; probably (an understandable) coping psychological mechanism. I was very afraid our session wasn't going to be good, given her used and tired face.

But it was. It turned out the lady was very very skilled. We went through the normal routine of a shower, cat-bath, bare-back blow-job? (don't remember), drying, going to the bed, more cat bath, and then bare-back blowjob.

Just before the bang, she put on a black slinky see-through dress, which was very effective in getting me hot. Then she got a condom and got on top of me. We did cowgirl and maybe reverse cowgirl.

I could see, staring at the mirror above, her bouncing up and down and grinding on me. As she did cowgirl, her body didn't go past my thighs. The oft-used term "little brown fucking machine" came to my mind. I pondered whether the term fit her. My lady had appeared white in the line-up, but up close was a shade of brown (not totally), being Vietnamese.

We went on to missionary. The sauna girl was so skilled, and I was so fired up, that I completely forgot how ugly her face looked. She had a technique of lightly squeezing her pussy and moving her legs from one side to another side as I pounded her. I couldn't stand it, and quite soon I came inside this little brown fucking machine.

After she took off her see-through dress, I went and asked her to put it back on. I flipped it over her stomach and admired how effective its slinkiness and see-thoroughness had been at arousing me.

We showered; she went down and did her make-up. I was a bit abrupt in the chatting because she couldn't speak Chinese. Then we walked out arm in arm, her occasionally engaging in unwanted sexual harassment by grabbing my dick in amusement and laughing.

I took some time to admire the ladies during the next line-up, just before leaving. I saw the sauna girl I'd just fucked. Amazingly she was once more very hot and young-looking from a distance (which was not very far at all, to be frank). I am still astounded as to the power of make-up.

I caught her eye and grinned at her a couple of times. At first, my sauna girl smiled at me. After a time, she tried not to look back, in order to get a second customer. I also saw another really pretty, demure lady smile at me multiple times. Sadly, given my exhaustion, I was probably physically unable to have sex again that night. So I went out.

As I was going out, there was a big commotion. It was genki Viet girl! She and her friends surrounded me, jabbering loudly and with great abuzz. She hugged me.

Next she pointed at my cellphone. I opened it, where my wallpaper is a picture of Asuna and Kirito from Sword Art Online. For all you old guys here, Sword Art Online is a beautiful cyberpunk Far Eastern love story set in medieval Europe-ish. I highly recommend that you watch the Alicization Arc, which is airing right now.

So anyways, where was I? Oh yeah, I was in the middle of a brothel. Genki girl was furiously pointing at my picture of Asuna and Kirito and jabbering with her friends, who surrounded me. I decided, hey, why not, I can go ahead and explain Sword Art Online to her. It probably is somewhat popular in Vietnam actually. The language barrier would be hard, but I was willing to make the sacrifice to talk about my favorite subject: anime. If she was not already familiar with it.

Genki girl pointed at Kirito and said, "You". She pointed at Asuna and said, "Me".

Then I understood. So we added WeChats. I guess she actually is interested in being a sauna lady. Women, always saying one thing and doing another.

Sadly, we never got to fuck (although I genuinely looked forward to putting my schlong in her young and innocent looks). She was kind of scatterbrained and didn't know when she got off work after I messaged her (I think the time is around 4:00 am).

I tried to arrange a time, and she agreed. But I was too tired that day and didn't follow up.

On my last day in Macau, I tried again, but she said, "Sorry I'm coming menstruation".

A couple of days later she sent me a message, but I was back in America. To which she responded, "See you again".

Which we will, if I decide to go back to Macau, that is.

3365 pataca.

Ryouko
11-18-19, 02:24
I tried going to this place in my search of KTV. Fortuna Night Club is not KTV; it's a strip club that has only foreign women (who can be banged).

Fortuna Night Club is located in Hotel Fortuna, on the same floor as Supreme Sauna. The entrance is small and gaudy; it has a gaudy steel door which you can't see through. On top is a sign "Foreign Girls Specialty Shop".

I asked the one to two attendants about the club. They said that the club has a number of shows; I decided to take a look and paid 798 pataca.

The inside of the club was very small, dark, and empty. It was basically a bar with a raised platform to see performances. There were only two other customers, apart from myself. It was quite silent, as nobody spoke.

A fairly fat and not-very-good-looking Eastern European woman came and started dancing. Seeing as there were only three people, she didn't seem very enthusiastic; neither were we. I was quite surprised when she actually stripped naked and danced for a couple more minutes.

Then she finished, went around, and asked for tips. I gave her 20 pataca, lower than the other customers.

I left, quite disappointed. However, I'd noticed another person paying large amounts of money. I thought that there must be something more going on than a strip show. After lots of awkward asking, the attendants revealed that there were ladies available for banging.

I went for a line-up in the same small, silent bar (except in a room behind). There were only around five women; one of them, to my surprise, was the one who had just danced on the stage. Half were Eastern European; half were Asian.

In hindsight, I should have asked more about the Asians. They were tall and darker-skinned. I wonder what countries they came from. My initial belief was Central Asia. They seemed too physically large to be Southeast Asians; they seemed too brown to be Japanese, Korean, or Mongolian.

Anyways, I'd come to sing KTV and did not really find the line-up hot. Disappointed, I dismissed the ladies and left.

818 pataca.

P.S. For those visiting Macau, I'd love for more information on the nationalities of the Asian girls in Fortuna Night Club. You don't even have to pay; just ask for a line-up, ask their nationalities, and then say you're not interested and leave.

Whomer
11-19-19, 02:59
I tried going to this place in my search of KTV. Fortuna Night Club is not KTV; it's a strip club that has only foreign women (who can be banged).

Fortuna Night Club is located in Hotel Fortuna, on the same floor as Supreme Sauna. The entrance is small and gaudy; it has a gaudy steel door which you can't see through. On top is a sign "Foreign Girls Specialty Shop".



Okay, let's get down to the good stuff. This review kind of got away from me, especially the attempts at humor, so I hope you bear with me.

Overall, I'd say that I didn't like much 18 - the non-girl service was poor, the layout was not great, the lounges had you facing facing other men. The only thing I liked was the ladies. The ladies were hot and there was a very wide selection.



I finally had the chance to go to the famous 18 Sauna. Some people have said that its location at the Golden Dragon Hotel was run-down, but I didn't find the bottom floors that way; it seemed the hotel was a hotel.

Before going into the sauna, I took a look at the two other places mentioned alongside 18 - Golden Dragon Night Club and the Crazy Happy Show.

Layout

Ryouko, awesome reviews. Great job.

Wanted to add, to your 18 Sauna review:

Body scrub or "Female Scrubbing Service": The rooms you get the scrub don't have doors. They had been remove some years ago. So, everyone can watch what the girl is doing to you, and what you do. Furthermore it is a bit cold inside, due to the cold air coming from the main room.

While I always liked the scrub service at 18, because in most cases you get an additional BJ in between or at the end for an extra tip, the management closed this door by making the scrub more or less public. Today I opt for the scrub only if 'I'm in the "don't care" mood, but it is nice anyway.

Ryouko
11-20-19, 07:25
I've read several very sparse reviews of Club 9. I was determined to try out this mysterious KTV place, which was apparently the best sex KTV in Macau. I also wanted an experience similar to the famous Dongguan KTVs.

Club 9 is actually not mysterious at all; it's just very very expensive, which is why most mongers don't go there. You can find it going up the main elevators of L'Arc Hotel, on the fifth floor.

The club is very fancy and dark, with lion-like statues to the sides as you go in. There are lots of rooms and a fair amount of activities going on, mostly groups of people walking in and out. Some people just ask for line-ups and bring the ladies to their hotels, without any singing. I was told the ladies are separate from those in Victoria Sauna.

I asked for "Ke Er" (PM me and I can give her WeChat). I had thought she would be the same person as in Golden Dragon Night Club and was surprised when a different person appeared.

I forgot a lot, but here are the approximate prices I remember:

120

One pack of beer ("Ke Er" paid for two packs).

800

Singing.

0? OR 1200?

Sitting, one hour (given to Club 9).

300

Sitting, one hour (given to lady).

3000?

Long time with lady (given to Club 9).

3000

Long time with lady (given to lady in morning).

Yes, it's quite pricey (almost 1000 USD for two girls to sit and one to long time). And those who go in groups still have to pay around 1000 USD. But this was a once-in-a-lifetime experience for me, and I make a lot of money, so I was willing to do it.

The room was absolutely enormous. It was way too big for me, and I asked for a smaller one. They said there were no smaller rooms. So I ended up singing KTV with two ladies in this stadium-sized empty space.

"Ke Er" brought line-ups of around 6-8 girls each. From reading reports I expected the best girls to be last. Indeed, the first line-up was truly hideous.

The second and third were also quite ugly. I asked "Ke Er" in concern whether she only had ugly ladies.

Fortunately the pretty ones started coming around the 4th line-up. I think I chose one then. Around the 6th line-up I chose another.

I thought it would end then, but "Ke Er" brought more line-ups. In the 8th line-up I saw a beautiful girl from my home province and embarrassingly replaced the lady to my left.

That wasn't it, however. "Ke Er" seemed to have an unending supply of line-ups with exquisite girls. Finally, by the 10th line-up, I said to stop.

I had one lady, dressed in a really hot dress, from my home province to my left. To my right was another lady, with long legs left open by her dress. I had a lot of fun groping those legs.

Ahead of time, I told both that my Chinese was not great and to leave if they were uncomfortable with a foreigner. Language proved a problem throughout. My Chinese is just not good enough to flirt, and so our communication was strained.

I started singing a couple of my favorite songs, mostly in English, after they helped me figure out the KTV machine. Unfortunately there was no KTV Girlfriend Experience. The ladies remained polite but somewhat distant and uninterested in my world-renowned singing abilities. I found it's also impossible to hold a microphone and grope two girls at the same time.

The ladies refused to sing when I invited them. I was really surprised, as from the Dongguan reviews KTV girls apparently love to. But these KTV girls refused.

Instead they seemed to be interested in playing dice games. I learned and played several rounds with them. Dice games seemed more interactive and aroused a bit more of their interest.

Afterwards, I sang again; after all, I'd come here for KTV, not dice games! Again I invited them to sing their favorite songs, and they refused again. As the hour ended, the lady to my right (at first quite warm towards me) started coldly looking at her smartphone. This was probably because I'd admitted the one to my left was from my same hometown, meaning I wouldn't choose her (she was correct).

Throughout I drank a bit of beer, albeit not much. The ladies drank little to none. No drinking, no singing. What chaste women!

I experienced some of that famous Dongguan trickery as the ladies were very skilled at filling our cups. I didn't even notice them doing it once. Fortunately we ordered only two packs. However, I can see how they could go through a dozen packs in one KTV outing in order to increase the customer fee.

After our lukewarm hour ended, with no real flirting but me enjoying the opportunity to grope two hot girls, I called "Ke Er". The two ladies left, and "Ke Er" asked how was the experience, to which I admitted language problems. I then chose the lady from my home province.

As my hometown lady returned with a smile, we held hands and walked out the hotel. I actually found this really hot, even despite the lukewarm KTV. Something about being kind of drunk and holding hands with a beautifully dressed girl you've been with for an hour, and then taking a taxi to your hotel, knowing that you'll have sex. It's an experience.

In conclusion, Club 9 was expensive. It's meant for groups, but each person still pays 1000 USD for the lady. And if you're not Chinese, you won't get a Girlfriend Experience.

7159 pataca.

Ryouko
11-22-19, 05:53
Once in my room, the KTV girl undressed. Sadly, like many prostitutes, she looked much more emaciated and older than indicated from her dress, with a tattoo. She was probably in her late twenties. Later she said that if she took off her make-up, I'd be scared. Fortunately, that nightmare scenario never occurred (I believe a lot of prostitutes keep their make-up on during long time while sleeping, to avoid this situation).

Generally speaking, her body was still pretty hot. It would have been hotter if she'd had more curves. Previously I've been a fan of the thin archetype, but after so many emaciated prostitutes I'm really starting to see why Renaissance Europe and the Tang Dynasty appreciated fat women. Sex really is better with a woman with curves.

We showered, dried, and had sex.

KTV girl long time sex is quite different from sauna girl long time sex. A sauna girl kind of gives you her sauna performance, except in your hotel shower and bed. She goes through her routine, and at the end her body vacuums out your lifeforce. KTV girl sex is much more natural. Although with KTV girls you do a lot more of the work; they kind of do nothing, lie there, and smile while you're inside them.

I caressed my KTV girl and kissed her all over: between the breasts, the breasts, the stomach, the inner thighs. Unlike with a sauna girl, with a KTV girl it was a lot more like hooking up with a girl in a club. She asked if it was the first time that I'd had sex in a long time. Actually it'd been only two days, haha. I said it was a few days.

I took out a condom, but she gave me her own (which was quite oily). I had a bit of trouble unwrapping it in my excitement (and, sadly, inexperience). She said "sha bi". Haha.

Then I was not erect because of the condom. Probably having seen this before, she gave kind of a slow handjob, which did the job.

We did missionary, which was very enjoyable as usual. Probably the highlight of a young man's life is doing missionary with a beautiful girl, haha. Then I came inside her.

We showered. Annoying, as we went to sleep she wrapped a towel around herself (probably a trick to prevent me from wrapping my arms around her while sleeping). When I asked why, she said something I didn't understand (the next morning, I searched for it: apparently something to do with a facial mask).

I was actually okay with not cuddling as we slept. From experience I find it incredibly hard to sleep that way. Do any of you have the same experience?

We woke up much later than the 10 am deadline for long time. According to Club 9's contract, I was due morning sex. However, I usually can't cum twice that way, so I didn't insist. She was probably pretty delighted not to do her womanly duty (she asked me in suspicion what I was doing as I dressed).

My home province lady dressed in her beautiful outfit. We added WeChats. Sadly, she never posts pictures, and I can only see three days of her history. I'm having a hard time remembering her face, which is sad.

We hugged (I made sure to hug her; I love doing this to beautifully dressed and perfumed ladies). Finally it was good-bye.

GalaxyWynn6969
11-25-19, 22:16
I have just returned from a lengthy trip in Macau where I visited Rio, Supreme, East and 18 Sauna.

First time in Macau, and this forum has been very helpful in preparing me for one of the better trips of my life. While I understand that YMMV, I am surprised not to see more love for East Spa. After going to Rio two times, I was convinced that the Sauna experience couldn't get any better. I was wrong.

East Spa is located in the Waldo Hotel. When first arriving, you are greeted as usual with a man / boy who escorts you to a locker. Gives you an arms band with your locker number and helps you disrobe. I still don't get why all the Saunas use men for this part of the process, but it is something I got used to after many visits. From there, you are brought back to the first group of clothed girls who ask if you want a shower. East also offers a unique experience of VR bathing. That's right. Virtual Reality. They bring you over to a Superman Cut Out near a wall that has a Glory Hole in it. They put on your VR goggles and you watch a video of an Asian women being fucked while a women (YesI checked) scrubs your man parts and sucks your penis a bit. I was taken back but oddly excited by the whole thing. Once clean, I was escorted to an area where you would be dressed in a robe and shorts next to three in ground pools / Jacuzzis. To my surprise I saw an amazingly attractive girl enter the pool with a patron. I asked right away what the deal was as this was a unique experience for me. So for $505 MOP you can pick a girl to spend 20 naked minutes in the hot tub with. Most of the time she is rubbing up against you and jerking you off. But she also spends a few minutes sucking your dick on the side of the pool. I loved this! It allowed me to experience a taste of each of the girls before taking one to the back.

Once I was done with the pool, I took a seat on one of the 25-30 leather couches in a dimly lit room. Small but much nicer than the Rio. The manager spoke English and was very helpful. I was offered a drink and some food while I waited for the show to begin. You had your option to get head, shoulder, thigh and feet massages like other places. But once ShowTime started, things changed. Rather than your typical lineup, the girls here take turns circulating in their French maids costumes from guy to guy. Each one doing something a little different varying from licking your nipples to sucking your cock and everything in between. Once the show is over, you are brought out by the pools and see the entire line up. I chose my girl (one of the ones I took in the pool. #26.). I can't say enough about her. She was great and I saw her 3 times throughout my trip. Pricing was approximately 2800 MOP. After selecting your lady for the night, you can select one of 3-4 outfits for then to wear. A Librarian. Stewardess. Leather Bondage or French Maid. I went with Librarian and was escorted to a room that had a shower and looked like a library. It had a desk and chair, and a nice bed. Books around the wall.

Once I got settled in, a knock at the door came and it was one of the other girls I had pooledwith. #26 told me that the first ten minutes with the second girl was free. But if I wanted her to stay, it would be an extra 1600 MOP. I for sure said yes! We all showered and they scrubbed me down. And then began giving me a BJ. After ten minutes they asked if she should stay or go. I of course said STAY and continued to have 30-45 minutes of amazing sex with the both of them. I am getting older, but I gave it all I had and loved it all. The next two times I came back I chose to be with #26 and a second girl. Every time better than the last. I was in a regular room and then a huge room upstairs that had chains and handcuffs on the bed.

Unlike most of the other Saunas I visited on this trip, this is the only place that really seemed like the girls were having fun. And weren't slaves. Of course, maybe they were, but they hid it well. It is less of a sauna and more of an experience, one that I would definitely recommend.

Ryouko
12-04-19, 06:39
I went to The One Sauna late at night. I'd delayed going several times due to various reasons, but I finally went.

The One Sauna is located in the New Orient Landmark Hotel, in the Macau sauna district.

The first time I tried scouting the location, I actually got lost. I searched everywhere in the hotel and couldn't find it. It's not in the normal elevators, which lead to a legitimate sauna. I saw a corridor next to a restaurant with sauna advertisements, but this led to a blocked entrance. I also asked an attendant about the sauna, but he redirected me to the legitimate sauna. I actually concluded that the sauna was closed.

The second time I walked everywhere again. Finally, after embarrassingly asking for its location, I was directed to the right side of the hotel (going in from the entrance). After going up maybe two escalators, I found it in a secluded part of the hotel, just before the stairs to the casino.

I've gone to a lot of saunas, and after awhile the memories kind of blur together. The top Google result shows a number of pictures of the sauna, taken by presumably the architecture firm that designed the sauna. I remember the sauna being somewhat smaller than the pictures implied.

After the changing room, there's an enormous television facing the pools. There are several great hot pools, of differing temperatures. The One's pools are definitely the best of all the saunas I've gone to. The resting area also has rows with big televisions; it's pretty nice.

At the sauna, my experience was kind of ruined by the need to go to the restroom continuously. I've noticed this sometimes happens to me in saunas. Partly it was from drinking too much water that day; partly it was mental; hopefully it wasn't an STD. I will get tested for this.

As usual, there were lots of annoying attendants attempting to sell services. I went to the pool and relaxed a bit in the great heated water. Afterwards, a massage girl helped me put on my sauna robe again. Her kindness was the only reason I accepted her massage, when I'd been determined to reject the extras. She insisted on doing a thigh massage, which I really didn't want due to my restroom needs. I insisted on a shoulder massage, and she finally agreed after much reluctance. She probably was a thigh massage specialist and didn't do shoulder massage.

My masseuse said that she was 25. Looking at her face, I said no way and that she was at least 30. She pretended to cry. She also asked me to go out with her to my hotel room. I refused, considering that she looked over 30. We had an interesting conversation, in which she said that she didn't want to be a sauna girl because sauna girls can't choose their customers (whereas she can).

It was riot day in Hong Kong, and as she gave me a shoulder massage we watched the riots live. When I saw the rioters throw a Molotov cocktail, I went "Woah!" My masseuse took a look and then turned away. Like most God-loving, patriotic Chinese, I assume she desires for the PLA to shoot the protestors and all their lot.

The first line-up was in a wide area behind the pool. There were a number of ladies, perhaps 30. I remember that the quality was a bit below Rio (and perhaps 18). The most annoying thing was the dim lighting, meant to hide the flaws of ladies.

I waited for another line-up. This second took forever to come (more than an hour; it was really late). I looked closely at the ladies and chose a girl who didn't stand out immediately and was kind of brown and small. The main reason I chose her was because she looked obviously young and didn't wear too much make-up.

This turned out to be a great decision. It was one of only two times during my visit when I correctly chose a hot lady in the sauna line-up.

Before sex, I made sure to go to the restroom again. I was a bit worried I couldn't cum, feeling as if I had pissed away all the liquid in my body. This proved not to be an issue.

My lady, from Guangdong, was waiting for me in the room. She was the second hottest lady I banged during my visit; the hottest was a Rio girl who refused to do long time after a private session in my hotel room (fuck her, although I literally did do that twice). My lady looked very young, and I swore she was 18 years old. I was amazed when she said that she's 25.

She asked if I wanted a threesome; I declined mostly because of my restroom needs and worries.

The service was good as usual. I forget a bit of what she did, it being late at night. Sadly, the sauna sessions kind of blend together. I know she gave a soapy massage, her tight young body going up and down my body. I might have then pissed in the shower yet again.

We dried and went to bed. Next was probably cat bath and bareback blowjob. She got a condom and went on top of me. It's a shame my memory of banging this hot girl is so blank.

Missionary felt great as always, and we ended with me on top of her. Like the 18 Sauna lady, this girl's pussy was very skilled. She too was able to squeeze lightly and move her pussy from side to side as I pounded her. It was probably her technique to get customers to cum faster, and it definitely worked for me.

I came deep inside her and kept on cumming for what seemed like half a minute. Probably because of my multiple restroom trips, it felt a bit like pissing. During the whole release, I gradually lost my erection but still kept on pounding (and cumming inside) that 18-year-old-like tight body. My sauna lady took the pounding like a champ.

We probably showered and dried. My lady asked if I wanted another round. I said no way and out of curiosity asked how many customers can do two rounds. To assuage my manhood, she probably lied and said that very few customers do. Would be interested in any accounts discrediting her claim.

Next was the usual postcoital conversation. She grinned and laid on top of my chest. She held her pretty-looking face in her hands, smiling and looking at me. Actually when a woman does this it's quite heavy (despite her small body).

Asked of my plans, I said that I was eating a reserved dinner at "The 8 Restaurant" tomorrow. My lady said how about she join. We added WeChats and continued chatting. To be honest, I think that all sauna ladies are down for a paid rump in your hotel room, as long as the session goes okay. I said to her seriously: join me tomorrow.

Later, my sauna lady messaged me and gave me her price: ten thousand pataca for a full day! I believe it's less for only doing her after work. Even for me ten thousand pataca is too much, and I let her know. I hope to bang her next time. But no way am I paying ten thousand!

After the session, I felt famished and ordered some food, which turned out to be mediocre. I ate, watching protestors set fire to Hong Hong. Eating the bread ended up leaving a huge mess on the sofa arm. When I came back, I noticed the sofa arm clean again. I'm impressed by how quickly and thoroughly The One staff cleaned everything.

Finally, I went to the pool. It was around 3:00 am, and things were mostly empty. I relaxed in the tranquil heating water.

Here I was, naked after sex with a hot young tight sauna girl, in a comfortable hot (perhaps too hot) sauna pool. As I relaxed, I got a good view of the enormous television screen. It was showing some more protestors destroying Hong Kong. Surreal.

3390 pataca.

Turgid
12-05-19, 17:00
.......................she might have been in her thirties. She also went from tall to being a head shorter than me once she took off her high heels.

I am still shocked at how make-up can turn such ugliness into beauty from afar. How do those girls do it?.

My chosen girl, who was Vietnamese, would randomly laugh during our time together; probably (an understandable) coping psychological mechanism. I was very afraid our session wasn't going to be good, given her used and tired face.

But it was. It turned out the lady was very very skilled..................There are always advantages and disadvantages. Young girls usually come with the con that they are inexperienced and give poor service. Older women have the pro that they are skilled and provide a satisfying experience.

AugustChrist
12-06-19, 15:34
Very nice report GalaxyWynn69!

I've never heard of such experiences and definitely remain eager to try!

If you don't mind me asking, when you take the 20 min hot tub naked service, does the girl actually jerk you off or blow you off till you cum or its just a tease?

Stay safe and enjoy!

Cheers.

AC.


East Spa is located in the Waldo Hotel.... To my surprise I saw an amazingly attractive girl enter the pool with a patron. I asked right away what the deal was as this was a unique experience for me. So for $505 MOP you can pick a girl to spend 20 naked minutes in the hot tub with. Most of the time she is rubbing up against you and jerking you off. But she also spends a few minutes sucking your dick on the side of the pool. I loved this! It allowed me to experience a taste of each of the girls before taking one to the back...

Ed Haskell
12-14-19, 14:38
Hadn't been to Macau in a few years, so I decided to check out the sauna scene again. Can't say I had a great experience, but there are a lot of options, so luck plays a big part.

First, I can vouch for the HZMB bridge route compared to the ferry. Particularly with the unrest, I wasn't sure how well the ferries would be running and since I had landed at the HKG airport already, it seemed like a huge waste of time to go all the way to Kowloon on the Airport Express train, and then another hour on the ferry.

There is a TurboJet ferry from the airport directly to Macau, but it only runs twice a day now, and I would have had to wait six hours to catch the next one. That's a non-starter. So I opted for the bus over the bridge, with the process as described below. It worked fine, and the bridge was completely devoid of traffic. A far better way to get to Macau, and not very expensive.

I checked into the Rio hotel (room was comfortable, but a zoo at check-in), then decided to go back to Darling 2, where I had had a good threesome experience years ago. Upon arriving around 5 pm, there were only about 12 girls in the fishbowl, all laying down napping when I came in, and not at all enthusiastic to be woken up, it appeared! And not good quality, mostly 6-7's at best.

So I pick the one cute one, with an 8. 5 face and 9 body. The classic petite Viet spinner with a pretty face, small and perfect bolt-ONS, and a really tight body. For some reason I took a second girl, not nearly as cute or thin, hoping the 3-some would make it worthwhile. It did not.

The cute one was very quiet and almost sullen, although she warmed up a bit as the session went on. The not-so-cute one looked at her phone a lot. Did the bath + BBBJ, then they took turns going to work on my cock. Not into kissing or much other foreplay, and certainly no interaction between the two of them, which I knew not to expect. The overall chemistry wasn't good, and with only one of them really turning me on much, it wasn't much of a session. Don't recall the cost, but it was the usual duo for an hour rate.

Of course, while leaving the room we pass a super-hot girl coming up the stairs with another customer, and of course she wasn't in The fishbowl when I arrived. Just my luck.

Penetrador
12-28-19, 15:12
Hadn't been to Macau in a few years, so I decided to check out the sauna scene again. Can't say I had a great experience, but there are a lot of options, so luck plays a big part.

First, I can vouch for the HZMB bridge route compared to the ferry. Particularly with the unrest, I wasn't sure how well the ferries would be running and since I had landed at the HKG airport already, it seemed like a huge waste of time to go all the way to Kowloon on the Airport Express train, and then another hour on the ferry.

There is a TurboJet ferry from the airport directly to Macau, but it only runs twice a day now, and I would have had to wait six hours to catch the next one. That's a non-starter. So I opted for the bus over the bridge, with the process as described below. It worked fine, and the bridge was completely devoid of traffic. A far better way to get to Macau, and not very expensive.

I checked into the Rio hotel (room was comfortable, but a zoo at check-in), then decided to go back to Darling 2, where I had had a good threesome experience years ago. Upon arriving around 5 pm, there were only about 12 girls in the fishbowl, all laying down napping when I came in, and not at all enthusiastic to be woken up, it appeared! And not good quality, mostly 6-7's at best..Do you guys have any photos or footage of the girls in Line up? The ones on youtube seem to be outdated.

Mike B
12-28-19, 19:56
18 Sauna.

I found myself in Macau with some (non-mongering) friends, which was a frustrating experience. Finally, they were leaving for Hong Kong and I found a plausible excuse to stay in Macau for an extra night.

After seeing my friends off at the ferry terminal, I pondered where to go. The Golden Dragon Hotel and 18 Sauna is just a short stroll away. It has been a couple of years since I last visited 18, so why not.

I arrived around 8 pm, and after a quick shower, headed to the lounge area. If I remember right, the girls line up once an hour, so I'll probably have to wait awhile. I hate waiting. Oh, well, I might as well have dinner first.

It's a familiar routine. Eat dinner, find an open lounge chair, say no to the swarm of attandants offering foot massages, manicures, ear cleaning, etc. I'm just not in the mood tonight. I ordered a drink and, like everyone else, browsed on my smartphone while waiting for the lineup.

To my surprise the wait wasn't long at all. The "show" started and tonight looks to be a good night. After the brief show, all the girls started to line up. Wow, tons of really hot girls tonight.

I spotted a really sexy Chinese girl. She's petite (the way I like it) and too short to be ranked as a "model", which is good for me since the "model" girls are more expensive. But honestly, she's way prettier than most of the taller "models".

Our eyes met; she winked and seemed really eager for me to pick her. Good sign, me thinks. Some of the Korean "models" won't even meet my gaze. I asked the attendant for her with a quick confirmation sealed the deal.

Rooms were available so after a short while the girl escorted me to the room. To my surprise, her English is pretty good. Turns out she lived overseas when she was a kid and picked up English growing up.

In the room, we quickly undressed, and while she filled the tub with water we had a nice chat. I feel GFE vibes coming from her.

Then things went completely downhill from there.

Suddenly, she was all business. Uh, oh. She turned away when I tried to kiss her. I noticed her man-made breasts. Sucking on them was "too sensitive". Her motions are very mechanical. She's trying to get me off as fast as she can.

Damn, damn, damn. I know exactly how this session will turn out. I'll be honest; it's very hard for me to cum with an SP. Tonight, I'd be lucky if I will cum at all, even with just a handjob.

She is a very pretty girl, though, so I resigned to through the motions. We get to the bed and in no time the cover goes on.

She's now trying to ride me cowgirl but I'm not even hard. I can't even tell if I'm actually in her, or if she's just humping on top of my dick. She's making fake aah, ooh sounds which is even more of a turn off. Fuck! Not in a good way.

Still, I looked at her, and she is quite sexy. The all mechanical sweet young thing. Why do I do this to myself? Again?

Then something happened.

Amids her dry humping and fake sounds, suddenly I felt myself entering her.

She's bouncing up and down, and with each thrust, I felt myself going in her deeper.

Wow, now I'm getting really hard. My dick feels big.

She grinds her pussy on my dick and WOW. I'm so deep in her. I glanced at her face and her ashtonished eyes betrayed her. She felt that too.

That's right, * feel it! Her mechanical act is all gone now. I'm fucking her deeply and furiously and she's losing it. I guess I was so frustrated that she was so mechanical, that now it's like I want to force her to like it. I want her to enjoy this. I want her to admit defeat.

Her breathing is ragged. She's totally losing it. My dick is still getting harder, I'm pumping deep into her and I can see that she's about to cum.

Then I lost it. I came hard and I can see that she did too. Wow, this is really rare for me.

After we both calmed down, she finally rolled off me. I looked at my dick and at once came understanding and terror: the condom had broke.

Yup, there was a bit of condom left at the base, but the rest of my dick was bare. So that's what happened. The condom probably split during her humping and I entered her bareback. No wonder.

I looked at her and I can see my cum dribbling down her * and on her stockings. She went to remove my condom and went, "oh".

I wondered if she was going to freak out but to my surprise, this didn't faze her at all. She just chuckled and then started cleaning up like nothing had happened.

I don't know if I won or lost this round. I guess I'll get tested in a few months. (Spoiler: all clear).

Joe Karnavic
12-29-19, 05:34
18 Sauna.

I found myself in Macau with some (non-mongering) friends, which was a frustrating experience. Finally, they were leaving for Hong Kong and I found a plausible excuse to stay in Macau for an extra night.

After seeing my friends off at the ferry terminal, I pondered where to go. The Golden Dragon Hotel and 18 Sauna is just a short stroll away. It has been a couple of years since I last visited 18, so why not.

I wondered if she was going to freak out but to my surprise, this didn't faze her at all. She just chuckled and then started cleaning up like nothing had happened.

I don't know if I won or lost this round. I guess I'll get tested in a few months. (Spoiler: all clear).Fascinating report Mike. You have won in the end! I have been to Sauna 18 many times and had some great sessions. It is about time to visit Macau again.

GH480
12-29-19, 16:35
I had only been to houses in Nevada (Sheri's, Chicken, Mustang, Bunny, Love Ranch North, Kit Kat, Sagebrush), just started seeing US escorts, and this was my first time partying internationally so I apologize if I use the wrong terminology. I decided on Darling 1 because the reports I've read here say saunas are best experienced at a leisurely pace over several hours.

I arrived at Masters Hotel which is located next to the water around 4 PM. Enter the sliding double doors that face the street and turn to your right; keep going around the restaurant seating area and there will be a dark room to the right that has large posters of girls. Get in the elevator and go to the third floor. I was greeted by an East Asian lady who asked if it was my first time. I think there are 4 rounded couches, each with a table that has binoculars on them. About 15 to 20 feet away are all the girls. I counted 23 girls sitting on a "bleacher" with 2 girls standing on 1 side, and 1 on the other. She leads me to a couch and asks if I want a drink even though I'm carrying a water bottle. She says each party is "75 minutes and 1 shoot", and that the different badge shapes that the girls wear indicate their nationality. The sitting girls were Chinese, Vietnamese, and Thai and cost 1800 MOP, while the standing girls were Japanese and Korean and cost 2100 MOP (these didn't look more attractive to me). I didn't feel rushed to make a selection.

I choose #227, a short and slim 22 year old Chinese girl says she's been there for 3 months. She's a be cup with a tiny butt. She speaks very little English so we used a phone to translate. The party starts with a massage, moves to the tub, then back to the bed. Party included BBBJ, hot / cold BJ (either I don't think this is anything special or she wasn't good at it), COB and a bunch of positions. She had a lot of rules. No kissing, no DATY, no CIM, no fingers, she wouldn't masturbate herself, only very light touching (imagine using your fingertip trying feel how sharp a knife is or trying to get a hair off your eyeball. Basically if I tried to touch her harder than that downstairs she would say it was too rough), and she does a lot of fake moaning which turns out is a literal boner killer for me. Afterwards we clean up and as she leads me to the elevator it looks like there are 35 or so girls available.

I've been doing this for about a decade and have figured out I'm a GFE guy and that a lot of this is YMMV (I've been with some ladies in the Nevada houses who were highly regarded by members on another forum but they were among the worst parties I've ever had). If you're looking for a hot girl to bang and don't care if she's enjoying it, then I highly recommend #227.1 bad party isn't enough for me to start avoiding a house so I'd probably visit again.

Even though this was my only international brothel visit there are some advantages the Nevada houses have for a GFE guy like me.

-- You can talk to the girl beforehand and get to know her a little first to at least see if there's some chemistry before going to her room for negotiations.

-- During negotiations you can figure out what her rules are before you've paid any money.

-- There are a few fit / athletic girls in the Nevada houses while the girls at Darling 1 are slim I didn't see any that seemed to work out. To be fair, I didn't use the binoculars.

-- The girl can turn a customer down instead of giving a bad party.

Darling 1 has some advantages over Nevada.

-- You know the price beforehand and it's a lot cheaper than Nevada so it doesn't cost as much to strike out.

-- If slim girls are your thing, Darling 1 wins hands down. The Nevada houses are filled with heavier girls. A girl's figure isn't everything (among my current favorites is a mid 20 year old flat chested runner I take on hiking and camping trips, to a 40 year old curvy Russian smoker with enhanced breasts) but there is a distinct difference between the body types at Darling 1 and Nevada houses.

-- Darling 1 has more girls. Even if you go to a large Nevada brothel with a full house it generally doesn't approach 25 girls on shift.

-- The fishbowl isn't as "aggressive" as the Nevada lineups. Maybe it's because they're sitting or the vibe is just different in Macau. Unless the Nevada girls recognize you as a regular, they don't like being objectified and there's a palpable "why are you taking so long" or "why are you wasting my time if you aren't going to pick me" vibe during lineups. Most of Nevada girls I've talked to prefer the bar approach and don't like being called for lineups even if their house is primarily a lineup house.

-- The girl showered before and after. 1 is a small sample size but there have been a few ladies in Nevada who returned to the bar area after I partied with them with didn't take a shower before or after.

I was hoping someone could answer some questions I have about the Macau brothels.

1. "1 shoot" means once you finished the session is over or the sex is over?

2. Is there any way to find out what a girl's rules are before paying?

3. What happens at Darling 1 if I say it's not my first time? I choose a place to sit myself? I have to wave someone over when I want to make a selection?

4. Is it rude to ask if the girls know English before picking them? Can I ask "raise your hands if you speak English" before I pick? Casual conversation makes parties more enjoyable for me.

5. Are the full service rooms at the saunas as darkly lit as the rooms at Darling 1?

6. Is it possible to get a GFE at Darling 1 or the saunas? Do the Macau brothels have no "get to know each other" phase like the Nevada houses?

7. What's the going rate to ask a Macau girl to meet outside her work? In Nevada the house cut is 50% so you know her rate if she meets you outside the house.

Lefeu
12-30-19, 07:11
I had only been to houses in Nevada, just started seeing US escorts, and this was my first time partying internationally so I apologize if I use the wrong terminology. I decided on Darling 1 because the reports I've read here say saunas are best experienced at a leisurely pace over several hours...I am from the SF Bay Area, and I am fairly familiar with the houses of fun in Nevada. I've also been to Macau numerous times, including D1. Here are some answers to your questions:

"1. "1 shoot" means once you finished the session is over or the sex is over?

Yes, basically no more sex. For example, if you pay for 60 minutes, you can come only once but your are entitled to stay with the girl for the full 60 min. She can give you a massage, and most of them do. You can also chat with her, using an app.

"2. Is there any way to find out what a girl's rules are before paying?

Unfortunately, D1 is not set up to easily chat with a working girl. You can try and ask the manager, once you know which girl you want. Some places will make an effort to accommodate you.

"3. What happens at Darling 1 if I say it's not my first time? I choose a place to sit myself? I have to wave someone over when I want to make a selection?

No, first you can sit wherever you wish. You can change seat for a better viewing. It used to be that way a few years ago but it seems things have changed. I have not been there in many tears, at least 5.

Once you are ready to select a girl, your just mention her name (or number) to one of the helping managers.

"4. Is it rude to ask if the girls know English before picking them? Can I ask "raise your hands if you speak English" before I pick? Casual conversation makes parties more enjoyable for me. ".

This is practically the same as question 2 above. Also, a girl can say she speaks English, but she really does not.

"5. Are the full service rooms at the saunas as darkly lit as the rooms at Darling 1?

Honestly, I don't remember this being an issue. It is possible that they are doing this to prevent customers from filming their session with the girls, which is not allowed normally.

"6. Is it possible to get a GFE at Darling 1 or the saunas? Do the Macau brothels have no "get to know each other" phase like the Nevada houses?

Yes, you need to develop a connection with the girl first, via repeat visits, but there are exceptions.

"7. What's the going rate to ask a Macau girl to meet outside her work? In Nevada the house cut is 50% so you know her rate if she meets you outside the house. ".

I did that before but I don't remember how much I paid. If you read / search the forum, you will find the answer. Keep in mind that the girl has to finish her shift at the club before coming to your hotel room, usually after 3 am.

Vodich
01-31-20, 09:02
Originally, I was supposed to be in Korea for a week forvwork but all the meetings and workshops were canceled because of the coronavirus so I have 3-4 days open. I was thinking of going to Macau for those open days, however, I'm reading that Macau is currently a ghost town because of the virus. Does anyone know how the virus is affecting the saunas and whether it's a good or bad time to go? I'm debating on whether it's better to better to go somewhere else for mongering purposes.

Mike B
02-04-20, 14:59
Originally, I was supposed to be in Korea for a week forvwork but all the meetings and workshops were canceled because of the coronavirus so I have 3-4 days open. I was thinking of going to Macau for those open days, however, I'm reading that Macau is currently a ghost town because of the virus. Does anyone know how the virus is affecting the saunas and whether it's a good or bad time to go? I'm debating on whether it's better to better to go somewhere else for mongering purposes.Macau government announced that all casinos will be shut down for at least two weeks. So Macau's entertainment business is effectively dead right now.

Not to mention, travel in / out and between of China, Macau, and Hong Kong are being severely restricted right now. The Hong Kong Macau ferry is no longer operating. Bus service to / from Macau also severely curtailed. Many airlines have cancelled flights to / from the region.

Many of the girls who went home to China were unable to come back to Macau. With no customers anyway, I think even the non-Chinese girls are leaving Macau now.

I guess if one is already in Macau, easy pickings among the girls who are stuck there.

As of a couple of days ago some of the saunas were still open (they were doing temperature checks on guests) but now most if not all will close I think.

Member #4698
02-04-20, 20:15
Originally, I was supposed to be in Korea for a week forvwork but all the meetings and workshops were canceled because of the coronavirus so I have 3-4 days open. I was thinking of going to Macau for those open days, however, I'm reading that Macau is currently a ghost town because of the virus. Does anyone know how the virus is affecting the saunas and whether it's a good or bad time to go? I'm debating on whether it's better to better to go somewhere else for mongering purposes.Your current viable options are Manila, Jakarta, or Bangkok / Pattaya. Lots of girls. No Chinese. And if you are really risk averse - South America.

Weelock
02-05-20, 23:06
Many of the girls who went home to China were unable to come back to Macau. With no customers anyway, I think even the non-Chinese girls are leaving Macau now.

As of a couple of days ago some of the saunas were still open (they were doing temperature checks on guests) but now most if not all will close I think.I my opinion, Macau should also shutdown saunas and other forum of play like massages parlors. People are way too close for contact with each other, unfortunately. Short term like 14 days for shutdown. A temperature check will not do it, since the
virus can live for a few days before and after a high fever.

Vodich
02-06-20, 07:18
Thanks for the info! Luckily, I didn't buy a plane ticket.


Macau government announced that all casinos will be shut down for at least two weeks. So Macau's entertainment business is effectively dead right now.

Not to mention, travel in / out and between of China, Macau, and Hong Kong are being severely restricted right now. The Hong Kong Macau ferry is no longer operating. Bus service to / from Macau also severely curtailed. Many airlines have cancelled flights to / from the region.

Many of the girls who went home to China were unable to come back to Macau. With no customers anyway, I think even the non-Chinese girls are leaving Macau now.

I guess if one is already in Macau, easy pickings among the girls who are stuck there.

As of a couple of days ago some of the saunas were still open (they were doing temperature checks on guests) but now most if not all will close I think.

Mike B
02-07-20, 08:05
I my opinion, Macau should also shutdown saunas and other forum of play like massages parlors. People are way too close for contact with each other, unfortunately. Short term like 14 days for shutdown. A temperature check will not do it, since the
virus can live for a few days before and after a high fever.Yes, everything is closed now in Macau.

Chief Executive Order no. 27/2020

(preamble)

The following special measures were taken as of 00:00 on February 5, 2020:

1) Venues authorized for the practice of gambling activity by the Government of the Special Administrative Region of Macau are closed, as provided for in article 2 of Law no. 16/2001.

2) Cinemas, theaters, amusement parks, games arcades, internet cafes, billiard and bowling venues, saunas and massage establishments, beauty salons, gyms, health clubs, karaoke establishments, bars, night clubs, discotheques, dance and cabaret rooms, are closed, as provided for in Decree-Law no. 47/98 / M, of 26 October, and in Decree-Law no. 16/96 / M, of April 1.

Member #4698
02-07-20, 14:03
Yes, everything is closed now in Macau. Chief Executive Order no. 27/2020
Macau must look like be a ghost town. Wow!

Mike B
02-21-20, 00:58
Although Macau casinos were allowed to re-open in stages starting yesterday at midnight, other "non-gaming" businesses including saunas and night clubs remain closed by government order.

With mainland China still in effective lockdown, it may take months before business in Macau return to normal. Many hotels are now accepting reservations for March onwards but expect tourist activity to be down at least 50% compared to last year.

It is unclear for how long the saunas will remain closed. However, there are reports that some saunas have terminated their staff contracts (mainly affecting staff from the Philippines, Indonesia, etc.) -- suggesting a prolonged shutdown may be in the cards.

Penetrador
02-21-20, 14:07
Although Macau casinos were allowed to re-open in stages starting yesterday at midnight, other "non-gaming" businesses including saunas and night clubs remain closed by government order.

With mainland China still in effective lockdown, it may take months before business in Macau return to normal. Many hotels are now accepting reservations for March onwards but expect tourist activity to be down at least 50% compared to last year.

It is unclear for how long the saunas will remain closed. However, there are reports that some saunas have terminated their staff contracts (mainly affecting staff from the Philippines, Indonesia, etc.) -- suggesting a prolonged shutdown may be in the cards.Well that sucks, do the Casinos have prostitutes inside them or out? I'm talking about MGM, Venetian, Wynn palace, City of dreams, Galaxy etc.

Mike B
02-24-20, 15:31
Well that sucks, do the Casinos have prostitutes inside them or out? I'm talking about MGM, Venetian, Wynn palace, City of dreams, Galaxy etc.Right now the casinos don't even have customers.

I read the other day, when City of Dreams reopened, only about 10 customers showed up to gamble. Truly mind boggling, given the size of the complex!

For the time being, there are also severe restrictions being placed inside the casinos. All staff and all guests must wear face masks at all times. Staff have petitioned that guests are not served food and drinks so they don't take off their masks while eating. Right now most of the of the casino tables must remain closed, and the remaining ones are spread out to prevent crowding. And seats have been removed to keep distance between customers playing games.

I doubt there would be any girls under those circumstances.

Skepti10
03-02-20, 00:30
Based on the wechat of one of the managers, it seems Rio is opening tonight. I assume it's a severely depleted line-up, but if you're really in the mood then perhaps worth checking out.

Penetrador
04-29-20, 14:12
Based on the wechat of one of the managers, it seems Rio is opening tonight. I assume it's a severely depleted line-up, but if you're really in the mood then perhaps worth checking out.Yo what's up with the Saunas are they open? Also which sauna has more Russian and Korean pussy?

MissionAsia
07-11-20, 10:24
Hey guys,

A report from East Castle. I heard about this I think from either this forum or another review site.

I was in Macao right when the Corona virus was starting, and attended East Castle Spa and it was a blast! Don't speak a word of Chinese, but it worked out fine.

Service: costume massage. Maid.

Provider: name was Elena, don't recall number, doesn't speak a word of English.

Looks: 5/5.

Body: 5/5.

Service: 4.5/5.

WIR: yes.

I found the entrance in a side lift (not the main elevators). Entered into the club and went to the locker room as usual and slipped into some flipflops and a robe. No dudes watching me get naked and shower, which was nice.

Went to the seating area and relaxed for a bit. Had a drink and a smoke. Some cute philipino girls came by with a menu for the massages, and I went for the thigh massage, which feels really good.

She rubbed my inner thighs and tugged at my dick and balls under a towel with some oil for about 15 m without letting me cum, while I watched TV sitting between some Chinese guys. They had some pools you can dip in, but I didn't go for it.

I asked for a lineup, and they took me to another area that was decorated like an airplane cockpit! I sat in an airplane chair and they brought out the girls.

They had some really statuesque, model-looking girls. I picked one with nice soft big fake tits and jet black hair. They were all wearing evening-gown style outfits with heels. Looked quite classy.

I picked a french maid option (they had other options like nurse and stewardess) and she led me to a room, wearing the outfit. The room had a circular bed and hardcore porn on the TV.

She lay me down, played around with a feather duster for a bit, then we went at it. Her on top at first, and some good hard doggy to finish. She was really hot. Maybe one of the hottest girls I've had had sex with, and not a starfish either.

We relaxed and played google translate on our phones for a bit, watched some porn (massive dick just jackhammering a girl, ballcam angle), then she showered me and took me upstairs by the hand. I relaxed in the lobby for a while longer, turned down another thigh massage from some disappointed attendants, then headed out.

Penetrador
07-11-20, 16:32
Hey guys,

A report from East Castle. I heard about this I think from either this forum or another review site.

I was in Macao right when the Corona virus was starting, and attended East Castle Spa and it was a blast! Don't speak a word of Chinese, but it worked out fine.

Service: costume massage. Maid.

Provider: name was Elena, don't recall number, doesn't speak a word of English.

Looks: 5/5.

Body: 5/5.

Service: 4.5/5.

WIR: yes.

I found the entrance in a side lift (not the main elevators). Entered into the club and went to the locker room as usual and slipped into some flipflops and a robe. No dudes watching me get naked and shower, which was nice.

Went to the seating area and relaxed for a bit. Had a drink and a smoke. Some cute philipino girls came by with a menu for the massages, and I went for the thigh massage, which feels really good..How much was it? I want that thigh massage handjob sounds great!

MissionAsia
07-12-20, 10:31
How much was it? I want that thigh massage handjob sounds great!Don't recall exact price and exchange rate, but the thigh massage was about 30-50 dollars (included with entry I think? The food was free, the sex was about 250? It was a total blur to me, and I paid with credit card and the bracelet.

VagigiLover
08-09-20, 04:50
Two trips to Asia, one in December 2019, ultimate destination Singapore (to see a long-time girl, half Dutch, half Chinese-Singaporean, with a perfect round ass and perfect see-cups). The other trip was to Bali, to close-off lifetime platinum status with Marriott staying at Four Points Sheraton Ungason for a month. A plethora of European and Russian girls were everywhere at the hotel and they do not wear bras. Hard nipples in tropical weather were impressive. I fucked two of them.

Used United in December, and Cathay in February. Just before the PRC released coronavirus on the world (dumb fucks). Anyway, I always find a way to Macau and take advantage of the splendor and to reward myself for hard work back in USA. LAX or SFO to HKG. No exception for these two trips.

After RTFF, I decided to try The One Sauna (first time) and three months later Emperor Sauna (also first time). I was an expat living in Singapore in 2005-07, and not aware of Macau saunas. Tis, tis.

The One was as the forum described. Indulged in thigh massages, all but one by the TM girls. I asked a line-up girls – it was now 0300 – if she would provide and she said yes. She was a stunner, and I was on TM number eight or so, so I told her I might explode. She performed the caressing of my swollen and very sensitive cock for the allotted time without towel cover. I loved watching her stroke it. And toward the end she started increasing pressure and pace, and I unloaded everywhere. She loved it, and no one knew. I always stash some $HKD in my phone case, and rewarded her for an unexpected job well done. She was a stunner which made the ejaculation even more exciting!

Emperor was decent, not overly busy. I indulged again in as many TMs as I could handle. The TM girls performed in the lounge without towel, which I love so I can watch. And then offered release in a private room. I always took them up, and taught them what I liked. Squeeze the base to mushroom the head, twist on the head, until can take no more! Loved the flying cum, so did they. I blew at least five times in during the visit, I could cum no more after the fifth.

During all the pleasure, the ear cleaning is so amazing. Ear cleaning with TM is even more intense but can be overwhelming and I don't want to make a sudden move with her instruments in my ear canal. Facial and TM is awesome too. They are so eager to have a big, 'pink color' cock in their hands. I recorded video and posted to PornHub. I love to share the link with the ladies. Works like a charm!

I cannot wait for the next trip.

Penetrador
11-14-20, 20:57
Two trips to Asia, one in December 2019, ultimate destination Singapore (to see a long-time girl, half Dutch, half Chinese-Singaporean, with a perfect round ass and perfect see-cups). The other trip was to Bali, to close-off lifetime platinum status with Marriott staying at Four Points Sheraton Ungason for a month. A plethora of European and Russian girls were everywhere at the hotel and they do not wear bras. Hard nipples in tropical weather were impressive. I fucked two of them.

Used United in December, and Cathay in February. Just before the PRC released coronavirus on the world (dumb fucks). Anyway, I always find a way to Macau and take advantage of the splendor and to reward myself for hard work back in USA. LAX or SFO to HKG. No exception for these two trips.

After RTFF, I decided to try The One Sauna (first time) and three months later Emperor Sauna (also first time). I was an expat living in Singapore in 2005-07, and not aware of Macau saunas. Tis, tis.

The One was as the forum described. Indulged in thigh massages, all but one by the TM girls. I asked a line-up girls it was now 0300 if she would provide and she said yes. She was a stunner, and I was on TM number eight or so, so I told her I might explode. She performed the caressing of my swollen and very sensitive cock for the allotted time without towel cover. I loved watching her stroke it. And toward the end she started increasing pressure and pace, and I unloaded everywhere. She loved it, and no one knew. I always stash some $HKD in my phone case, and rewarded her for an unexpected job well done. She was a stunner which made the ejaculation even more exciting!.Is the Virus gone in Macau?

GuyBrusg1957
02-22-21, 03:37
Are the Sauna's friendly towards westerns? What about English Only Speaking Westerners or Americans? Would a trip for three or four days be long enough for the Saunas?

MichaelSamuel
02-22-21, 04:27
I can't speak to any availability now or attitudes post corona, but before the world stopped spinning there were no problems with westerners in Macao anywhere. China probably more so than other asian countries is so capitalistic now that all that matters is "green" and never is that more true than in the las vegas of asia. You will typically find at least one floor manager who speaks english and plenty of the massage girls will as well since they aren't from China. You won't find a lot of english amongst the PRC working girls but if you were looking for conversation you are in the wrong place. I do suggest that you keep your mobile with you so you can use translate if need be, and all the saunas have wifi.

All that being said one of my last times in the sauna's, which is like 3 years now, I did have the worst session ever. Had a girl who decided I was too well hung without even trying and wanted to do only a HJ maybe BJ which at sauna prices is a joke. The management handled it well enough, but was sort of a mess a really awkward and put me off. But that was 1 visit out of dozens so I chalk it up to bad luck.


Are the Sauna's friendly towards westerns? What about English Only Speaking Westerners or Americans? Would a trip for three or four days be long enough for the Saunas?

GuyBrusg1957
02-23-21, 02:45
That's super interesting, I'm kind of stuck between making a trip to Bangkok or Macau but if it's just as easy then this seems like a worth while trip for a few days for a different part of the world.

The only two questions I have left is how come this isn't much information online about these clubs? Outside of places like Darling 1, Familia Nobre and Rio is there outside of these? Are they like a FKK where I can stay there for a few hours?

Faceless78
02-27-21, 19:51
Are the Sauna's friendly towards westerns? What about English Only Speaking Westerners or Americans? Would a trip for three or four days be long enough for the Saunas?Just don't worry too much about the language problem. Saunas have managers with all languages and they are desperated for business. Also, many girls can speak some english, especially the girls from Thai and vietnam.

I belivee 3-4 days is enough, since Macau is a tiny city and there isn't much to do there beside casinos and spas. Everytime if I stay over 3 days, I start to feel bored and miss my bed back home.

Faceless78
02-27-21, 19:52
I visited to Golden Spa at the begining of this month and met 709, a short vnm cutie with apple face and great boobs, who left me a great impression (honestly several girls in Golden all impressed me). I asked her FB yet she refused to add customers, so I don't have her contact.

Yet she disappeared after the chinese new year. Front desk each time reply she's still in vacation, yet I don't really believe one WG can talke holliday long as 15 days, since everyone is stuck in this tiny city and nowhere else to go.

SO, has anyone met her in other spas? This is probally the most logic guess. Many thanks for any informations.

GuyBrusg1957
02-28-21, 05:01
Just don't worry too much about the language problem. Saunas have managers with all languages and they are desperated for business. Also, many girls can speak some english, especially the girls from Thai and vietnam.

I belivee 3-4 days is enough, since Macau is a tiny city and there isn't much to do there beside casinos and spas. Everytime if I stay over 3 days, I start to feel bored and miss my bed back home.Interesting, I don't gamble but it would still be interesting to visit. The only reason I'm debating going now is due to all the political stuff going on with HK and whatever else. Looks like the State Department is recommending against it.

Faceless78
02-28-21, 14:47
Interesting, I don't gamble but it would still be interesting to visit. The only reason I'm debating going now is due to all the political stuff going on with HK and whatever else. Looks like the State Department is recommending against it.Honestly speaking, now it's not the best time to have fun in HK or Macau, especially Hk since they haven't got the epidemic under control. Macau on the other hand, is "clean" on this point, no new patient for half years or sth. If you have other business in town or somehow despearte for some action, it's always worthy a try. Foreigners are even more welcomed in some spas.

Now the lineup in Macau is 20-30% comparing to its peak time, the small ones have around 10-20 girls, the best ones may around 40-50 girls: in 2019 this number could easily be doubled or even more. What's more, there was a high "turnover" in these dozens of spas, you'll always see fresh faces each time. But now, most of the girls are stuck there for more than a year, only girls from mainland could join the line and the number is still limited. The good news is hotels and everything is damn cheap now, 5 stars room could cost only 50-80 usd.

In a normal day, I would have my sex trip in Thai, vnm or even Germany, for now, Macau is still an option better than nothing and I had some great time there.

GuyBrusg1957
03-07-21, 01:59
Sounds like it's best to wait until Macau, HK and even Thailand get the vaccine distributed before travel.

That's good to hear foreigners are welcome is in some spas, hopefully some of them speak English well.

Whomer
03-16-21, 13:02
Honestly speaking, now it's not the best time to have fun in HK or Macau, especially Hk since they haven't got the epidemic under control. Macau on the other hand, is "clean" on this point, no new patient for half years or sth. If you have other business in town or somehow despearte for some action, it's always worthy a try. Foreigners are even more welcomed in some spas.

Now the lineup in Macau is 20-30% comparing to its peak time, the small ones have around 10-20 girls, the best ones may around 40-50 girls: in 2019 this number could easily be doubled or even more. What's more, there was a high "turnover" in these dozens of spas, you'll always see fresh faces each time. But now, most of the girls are stuck there for more than a year, only girls from mainland could join the line and the number is still limited. The good news is hotels and everything is damn cheap now, 5 stars room could cost only 50-80 usd.

In a normal day, I would have my sex trip in Thai, vnm or even Germany, for now, Macau is still an option better than nothing and I had some great time there.My experience is quite the opposite. Macau and Hong Kong and China are places where you should be now. European countries, SA or NA are worth reg. Covid. Of course, there is less business now in MK and HK, therefore there are less girls. Travel is complicated or not possible.

In Europe hotels are closed more or less, sauna are closed, brothels are closed. Where do you want to go there?

Christian G
03-16-21, 14:25
In Europe hotels are closed more or less, sauna are closed, brothels are closed. Where do you want to go there?Some FKKs in Swiss are open with good line up. Also brothels in Spain are open.

Faceless78
04-25-21, 17:42
My experience is quite the opposite. Macau and Hong Kong and China are places where you should be now. European countries, SA or NA are worth reg. Covid. Of course, there is less business now in MK and HK, therefore there are less girls. Travel is complicated or not possible.

In Europe hotels are closed more or less, sauna are closed, brothels are closed. Where do you want to go there?Yes I agree, I was just saying, under the current situation, it's meaningless to travel from US to Macau just for sex. But if you have other reasons to be there, then yes just as you mentioned.

Faceless78
04-25-21, 17:42
Some FKKs in Swiss are open with good line up. Also brothels in Spain are open.Do the Germany FKKs still open?

Christian G
04-25-21, 18:52
Do the Germany FKKs still open?No. Only some FKKs in Swiss are open.

Penetrador
04-25-21, 21:52
Honestly speaking, now it's not the best time to have fun in HK or Macau, especially Hk since they haven't got the epidemic under control. Macau on the other hand, is "clean" on this point, no new patient for half years or sth. If you have other business in town or somehow despearte for some action, it's always worthy a try. Foreigners are even more welcomed in some spas.

Now the lineup in Macau is 20-30% comparing to its peak time, the small ones have around 10-20 girls, the best ones may around 40-50 girls: in 2019 this number could easily be doubled or even more. What's more, there was a high "turnover" in these dozens of spas, you'll always see fresh faces each time. But now, most of the girls are stuck there for more than a year, only girls from mainland could join the line and the number is still limited. The good news is hotels and everything is damn cheap now, 5 stars room could cost only 50-80 usd.

In a normal day, I would have my sex trip in Thai, vnm or even Germany, for now, Macau is still an option better than nothing and I had some great time there.Do any of the Saunas have websites? Also where in Macau can I find street prostitutes? New casino tracks? Yeah I know the Lisboa track was shutdown for some reason!

Faceless78
05-03-21, 20:05
Do any of the Saunas have websites? Also where in Macau can I find street prostitutes? New casino tracks? Yeah I know the Lisboa track was shutdown for some reason!I'm not really into street girls but most of them they've gone. No tourists coming for about a year, including the girls. I've several heard some of them back but it's won't be a good choice for the moment.

And I;ve never checked a sauna website because its meaningless. You can only see the girls on the spot.

Faceless78
05-06-21, 10:28
No. Only some FKKs in Swiss are open.Too bad, I'm going back to Europe soon.

I've never been to swiss FKK, could you name 2 or 3?

Penetrador
06-14-21, 21:59
I'm not really into street girls but most of them they've gone. No tourists coming for about a year, including the girls. I've several heard some of them back but it's won't be a good choice for the moment.

And I;ve never checked a sauna website because its meaningless. You can only see the girls on the spot.Is Macau open for travel now? ! I'm want to go to a sauna in the cotai strip! Any recommendations?

Faceless78
06-19-21, 16:29
Is Macau open for travel now? ! I'm want to go to a sauna in the cotai strip! Any recommendations?If you mean travel without quarantine, now it's only for tourists starting from mainland China.

for the moments, Familia Nobre, Golden, dailing1 have the best lineups and most girls

VagigiLover
11-23-21, 18:03
If you mean travel without quarantine, now it's only for tourists starting from mainland China.

for the moments, Familia Nobre, Golden, dailing1 have the best lineups and most girlsHopefully soon. Need my bi-annual fix. Last time was Dec 2019 and Mar 2020. As always enjoyed the spa treatment and the though massages. Eventually shooting was inevitable! And it happened several times!

Faceless78
11-23-21, 23:23
Hopefully soon. Need my bi-annual fix. Last time was Dec 2019 and Mar 2020. As always enjoyed the spa treatment and the though massages. Eventually shooting was inevitable! And it happened several times!I did enjoyed my "peachful moment earlier this year in macau, when even the popilar girls were hunting for customers.

Sadly now I'm in europe again. With less fun.

Penetrador
11-27-21, 12:32
Hopefully soon. Need my bi-annual fix. Last time was Dec 2019 and Mar 2020. As always enjoyed the spa treatment and the though massages. Eventually shooting was inevitable! And it happened several times!When will they open? Don't tell me the variant will close them again?

Web7788
01-03-22, 13:36
I was just in Macau for a short stay over the New Year.

Golden.

This was my first sauna I visited. First thing as you enter is the counter where you pay at the end. They directed me just around the corner to a small desk that is the entrance to the changing room and shower area. I asked that person what the prices are, he said it was around 1400/1600/1800 so I said okay. Not aware of the other procedures.

The changing room is basically a large room that is all open. Half changing / half shower area. Once you take off all your clothes, one of the washer girls will offer to wash you for free. That involves sitting in a chair without a bottom and having them give you a handjob a couple of times, but not until you pop. I think all the wash girls are Vietnamese and my girl was quite funny, liked to joke around. Once you're washed you go to the drying area where some older women will dry you down and use a hair dryer on you and dress you in pyjamas. I couldn't understand why she was waving a hair dryer in my face when I hadn't washed my hair. This is all completely unnecessary and it's because they then ask you to tip them. Next time I would not tip them for what is essentially a 1 minute job that I can do myself. Up to you if you do.

Then you go into the next room which is a rectangle in shape. It's all very small and cramped. The entrance to the room is the base of the short side of the rectangle. The central long area is a row of seats back-to-back where the girls sit waiting. Around that area is seating for the customers. I was directed to a seat directly left to the entrance. Immediately all the girls stood up and then one tall Chinese girl from DongBei comes over and sits on my lap and starts saying that I should pick her and that her service is great. I'm able to look around and see what the other girls are like and she seems to be more attractive than the ones that I can see. Not sure if I would pick her in a line up, but there didn't seem to be anyone better that I could see. She then had to go around the corner, perhaps for a line-up. She then came back and tries to get me to pick her. As I still don't see anyone better, I agree. She then goes away, perhaps to arrange the room. While she is away another girl, shorter and not bad, in a plain, cute way, came over and sat on my lap and said that I should pick her as well to do a threesome. As I'm not into threesomes I decline.

Once the room is arranged we go to the end of the rectangle and off to the right is another narrow corridor which is basically the kitchen area where you can get free food. Once you pass that part you are in the narrow section where the rooms are. The rooms are small and cramped and a bit seedy. There is small area partitioned where you can wash. Then there is a mattress with a TV installed high up on the wall tilted down so you can watch while lying down. There is s sort of curved chair in the shower area where she will wash you again. Then you go to the bed area and do your business. Was pretty unremarkable and fairly sort of mechanical. Very routine service. It didn't seem like she was enjoying the actual sex so I tried to finish as quickly as possible. I'm sure I could kept on but it doesn't give me any pleasure if the other person doesn't seem to be enjoying it.

You then get a 25 min massage from a different person included in the price, but they will ask for a tip. That masseur told me that they often have shows, and the one that evening would start at 11 pm and involve all the customers getting free BJ's from the girls and if they made you cum then you pay 500, if they don't you pay nothing. Then there is a raffle and whoever wins gets a free girl. It was 8 pm at the time, so I wasn't going to stay there until then.

When I come back out, I sit down in the restaurant and ordered a Pork Sandwich. I can see some of the other girls that I didn't see before. There were probably 2-3 that I would have picked over the one I chose, but I hadn't seen them. Perhaps better to wait next time and see a proper line up before choosing. Then I left. So, not great but you can't expect amazing things on every visit.

I found the whole set up there to be a bit cramped, disorganized and seedy. Just a bit too rundown. All the areas bleed into one another without separation. When you sit in the eating area, which is like a depressing rundown canteen, you can see all the girls waiting on the right, some are literally right next to you. They then have to pass you with their customers to get to the rooms. You then have to go past all the girls to get back out and walk through the wash area again. It's so narrow that only 1 person can pass at a time, so if there is line up you have to wait for them to sit down before you can go through. Never got to speak to the main person to get any explanation of how things operate or anything. Seems a bit too impersonal and perhaps like a treadmill, although there were not exactly a lot of customers.

The price was 1640, plus any other tips you might want to give to the washers or massage people.

Darling 1.

I went here one time at 3-4 pm in the afternoon. Once you enter you are in a large room, to the front on the left is the front desk. Further in to the right the room expands to the right and that is where all the girls sit waiting. Just in front of the girls are a row of seats where you will sit and can choose who you want. Although the distance between you and the girls is not far at all, they have binoculars you can use to look at them. I'd feel pretty silly using them, but I actually might at a later time. When I visited there were only 3 girls in there and the man said they were from Thailand, the price 1300. They seemed over 30 and not that attractive so I asked when is the best time to come, he said 6-7 pm.

So on another day I came back at 7 pm. This time the mamasan was there and she patiently explained how the pricing worked and the colour of the numbers. Roughly from what I remember the pricing was something like 14-16-800, certainly around that region. The red and yellow was for Thai and Vietnamese. There seemed to be a about 10-15 people there. Perhaps 7-8 on average, all pretty decent. I had a hard time choosing but eventually settled for a cute Thai girl who smiled like crazy every time I looked at her.

You then go upstairs to where the rooms are. These are large rooms with round beds and a bath shower area. She will give you an oil massage. Then wash you in bath and BBBJ. Then on the bed and another BBBJ and then down to business. She was great, really cute, feisty and quite funny. She started kissing me during the massage bit so we made out a bit as well.

I came back to the Darling 1 on my last day and the selection was less good then my first visit, so I chose her again. Same kind of thing.

I certainly prefer this type of set up to the other sauna set up, because you don't have to deal with all the washers, clothes changers and massage people, which in my opinion is just a distraction from the main event!

Darling 2.

I visited here, and it seemed to be shut down. The lights were out so I have to assume it's not operating for the time being.

Familia Nobre.

I visited here and asked about their services. Judging from the front desk and price list in the lobby, this is a top tier sauna with prices to match. I would expect the inside to be as nice as the outside. Reading the price list it struck me that this was essentially the racist hierarchy of the sauna world written down plainly for all to see. [Deleted by Admin]

I decided it was not worth it for me. At most I would pay probably 3000 or something for a Vietnamese "model" or something. Perhaps next time I'd go into see what's on offer. They also have all the other add-ons in addition to this price list.

VagigiLover
07-02-22, 14:50
I am ready to travel end on 2022. I have been emailing Macau customs and it may now be open to forenginers. Any updates from Asia?

Enter The V
12-27-22, 15:50
I am ready to travel end on 2022. I have been emailing Macau customs and it may now be open to forenginers. Any updates from Asia?I hope Macau is open and ready for Mongers to come? I need updates on the Saunas? How many girls on the line ups? Any new Fishbowls in the city?

MrClark203
10-16-23, 11:37
First time coming to Macau. I have about 24 hours to relax in a sauna.

I'm hearing I should do Golden or Familia, but I'm open to any suggestions. All the Rockit reports are very old.

Here is what I need:

1. A place to sleep that's reasonably private. Can you sleep in the Full Service rooms after the service is done? I'm really bad at sleeping in a place with light and noise.

2. Ideally I'the like a place that does the thigh massage privately but it's not a deal breaker.

Any recent visitors care to chime in? Familia seems to have a place to sleep, so I'm leaning that way.

MrClark203
10-24-23, 12:24
First time in Macau, had a full day and night to spend in the city, decided to check out the spa situation.

Decided on Familia nobre, primarily because rocket reports claimed you can sleep there. Entrance was what was expected. Staff is very kind especially if you speak a little Chinese, but this is not necessary. Shower area is very clean saunas hot tubs are very nice. There are three rooms off of the hot tub area where Vietnamese women who are not particularly attractive we're giving scrubdowns. The doors are open while they're doing this, and it looked at one point like a girl was giving a guy a blow job but I'm not sure. The girls were on attractive enough that I wasn't really interested.

Went to the lounge, which is quite long, has three rows of chairs, and on a Saturday night was absolutely jampacked with Chinese guys from the mainland. I was the only non-Asian there, although I do think there were some Malaysian or Filipino men as well. The staff was really busy, at about 9 PM. I only saw three girls in the short black dresses that indicate thigh massage. All were Vietnamese all quite pretty. I waited about 30 minutes for one to get free. She has scored me to a private thigh massage room. She didn't speak much English so we communicated in Chinese. She was cute but also absolutely exhausted, and about if I massage was great, she was really not into it. It also was nowhere near 25 minutes which was disappointing. I didn't say anything as I wasn't watching the clock.

I decided to go right from the phone massage to full-service. There was a massive lineup of women. I generally fine Vietnamese women very attractive, so I was actually looking for a viet girl. Unfortunately, I think the Chinese guys were taking advantage of the lower end of the price range, as there were only four Vietnamese girls at the lineup when I went. I will say the selection at Familia is absolutely out of this world. If money is no object, this is the place for you. My original intention was to spend the night and maybe do two full services, so at this point, I was looking to keep it reasonable. However, I did walk up and down the entire lineup of at least 50 girls. The high-end was absolutely out of this world both mainland, Chinese beauties and beautiful Japanese and Korean girls all for 5 to 7 K. There were also some very attractive Russian girls, but I can get the same quality in hongkong for half the price.

I settle on a shapely and beautiful Vietnamese girl, she seemed a bit nervous, we went into a room. The room has mirrors on the ceiling, and on one wall very well appointed small. Again, she didn't speak English so we communicated in Chinese. It does seem Familia has switched to catering to Chinese clients. I could tell the girl was not too into it, and mostly mechanical to start, but then, after the BJ, I asked her if I could go down and dine at the why. She hesitated, but then agreed. She got on her back and let me service her. And this is where things got interesting.

I'm guessing that the Chinese clientele are not big fans, but I don't think this girl has had her pussy correctly ever. I must have spent about 20 minutes down there all told, through multiple screaming orgasms. I think she almost lost control and wanted me to go bareback, of course I didn't put on a condom went out in about four different positions for a good 20 minutes more. The blue pill really makes you a porn star. (Ok ciallis since I planned on a long night).

After finishing with the girl chatting a little bit, I showered off and return to the lounge for some free food, which was fairly good. I had asked both of my massage girl and the full service girl if they're still were rooms to sleep in and both seem to say yes.

At this point it was approaching 11:30 I was pretty tired had a long day and asked the floor manager where I could sleep. He told me that the place has been redesigned and they no longer have the sleeping rooms and it was too busy to sleep in any of the other private rooms. The indication being when it's not too busy, they would let clients sleep in the thigh, massage rooms, and the full service rooms, which are plentiful. Unfortunately I just cannot sleep in the presence of light and other people, quite disappointed I booked a inexpensive hotel room (550 RMB) add one more thing I massage with a much prettier girl, who was a bit more attentive, had another soak more food, got to my hotel by 1 AM.

Overall damage was 4100.288 for thigh massage (One was comp I guess?) and 3800 for the Vietnamese model quality 60 minute FS.

If I could've slept there, I'the be a convert. Otherwise, not the amazing experience I expected it to be.

Enter The V
10-30-23, 12:16
First time in Macau, had a full day and night to spend in the city, decided to check out the spa situation.

Decided on Familia nobre, primarily because rocket reports claimed you can sleep there. Entrance was what was expected. Staff is very kind especially if you speak a little Chinese, but this is not necessary. Shower area is very clean saunas hot tubs are very nice. There are three rooms off of the hot tub area where Vietnamese women who are not particularly attractive we're giving scrubdowns. The doors are open while they're doing this, and it looked at one point like a girl was giving a guy a blow job but I'm not sure. The girls were on attractive enough that I wasn't really interested.

Went to the lounge, which is quite long, has three rows of chairs, and on a Saturday night was absolutely jampacked with Chinese guys from the mainland. I was the only non-Asian there, although I do think there were some Malaysian or Filipino men as well. The staff was really busy, at about 9 PM. I only saw three girls in the short black dresses that indicate thigh massage. All were Vietnamese all quite pretty. I waited about 30 minutes for one to get free. She has scored me to a private thigh massage room. She didn't speak much English so we communicated in Chinese. She was cute but also absolutely exhausted, and about if I massage was great, she was really not into it. It also was nowhere near 25 minutes which was disappointing. I didn't say anything as I wasn't watching the clock.

I decided to go right from the phone massage to full-service. There was a massive lineup of women. I generally fine Vietnamese women very attractive, so I was actually looking for a viet girl. Unfortunately, I think the Chinese guys were taking advantage of the lower end of the price range, as there were only four Vietnamese girls at the lineup when I went. I will say the selection at Familia is absolutely out of this world. If money is no object, this is the place for you. My original intention was to spend the night and maybe do two full services, so at this point, I was looking to keep it reasonable. However, I did walk up and down the entire lineup of at least 50 girls. The high-end was absolutely out of this world both mainland, Chinese beauties and beautiful Japanese and Korean girls all for 5 to 7 K. There were also some very attractive Russian girls, but I can get the same quality in hongkong for half the price.

I settle on a shapely and beautiful Vietnamese girl, she seemed a bit nervous, we went into a room. The room has mirrors on the ceiling, and on one wall very well appointed small. Again, she didn't speak English so we communicated in Chinese. It does seem Familia has switched to catering to Chinese clients. I could tell the girl was not too into it, and mostly mechanical to start, but then, after the BJ, I asked her if I could go down and dine at the why. She hesitated, but then agreed. She got on her back and let me service her. And this is where things got interesting.

I'm guessing that the Chinese clientele are not big fans, but I don't think this girl has had her pussy correctly ever. I must have spent about 20 minutes down there all told, through multiple screaming orgasms. I think she almost lost control and wanted me to go bareback, of course I didn't put on a condom went out in about four different positions for a good 20 minutes more. The blue pill really makes you a porn star. (Ok ciallis since I planned on a long night).

After finishing with the girl chatting a little bit, I showered off and return to the lounge for some free food, which was fairly good. I had asked both of my massage girl and the full service girl if they're still were rooms to sleep in and both seem to say yes.

At this point it was approaching 11:30 I was pretty tired had a long day and asked the floor manager where I could sleep. He told me that the place has been redesigned and they no longer have the sleeping rooms and it was too busy to sleep in any of the other private rooms. The indication being when it's not too busy, they would let clients sleep in the thigh, massage rooms, and the full service rooms, which are plentiful. Unfortunately I just cannot sleep in the presence of light and other people, quite disappointed I booked a inexpensive hotel room (550 RMB) add one more thing I massage with a much prettier girl, who was a bit more attentive, had another soak more food, got to my hotel by 1 AM.

Overall damage was 4100.288 for thigh massage (One was comp I guess?) and 3800 for the Vietnamese model quality 60 minute FS.

If I could've slept there, I'the be a convert. Otherwise, not the amazing experience I expected it to be.How much sex with the Russian? Did you try other Saunas.

Melor
12-28-23, 21:30
Overall damage was 4100.288 for thigh massage (One was comp I guess?) and 3800 for the Vietnamese model quality 60 minute FS.
Thank you for this precious update. Could you please clarify whether above numbers are in HKD or RMB (it doesn't make a big difference but I'm still curious). And what is exact meaning of '4100.288', seems some typing mistake?

If I remember correctly from my Familia Nobre experience quite a few years ago, when customer takes a girl for FS, other services go complimentary indeed. I usually took some hygienic procedures like manicure, then one thigh massage and one FS. There was a Chinese girl who I still remember, she made me really happy back then. Prices were more affordable, total damage was equivalent to 370-400 USD.

MrClark203
01-04-24, 12:25
Thank you for this precious update. Could you please clarify whether above numbers are in HKD or RMB (it doesn't make a big difference but I'm still curious). And what is exact meaning of '4100.288', seems some typing mistake?

If I remember correctly from my Familia Nobre experience quite a few years ago, when customer takes a girl for FS, other services go complimentary indeed. I usually took some hygienic procedures like manicure, then one thigh massage and one FS. There was a Chinese girl who I still remember, she made me really happy back then. Prices were more affordable, total damage was equivalent to 370-400 USD.HKD. The thigh massage was 288.4100 was my total. Sorry.

Corpo
02-12-24, 18:48
It's been roughly 6 years since my last. After reading recent reports, seems like many saunas have closed.

Besides Familia Nobre and Darings, is there anything open in Rio, Emperor or other places?

Does anyone know?

Also can someone recommend where some of the semi-pro hang like MP3, DD2 or other clubs?

Reef LostCause
02-12-24, 22:08
It's been roughly 6 years since my last. After reading recent reports, seems like many saunas have closed.

Besides Familia Nobre and Darings, is there anything open in Rio, Emperor or other places?

Does anyone know?

Rio has closed, as well as the namesake Casino.

Still open (that I've been to last October) were: 18, Emperor, Golden Sauna + a new one (nameless or chinese name only) located near Fortuna casino.

Corpo
02-13-24, 14:57
Rio has closed, as well as the namesake Casino.

Still open (that I've been to last October) were: 18, Emperor, Golden Sauna + a new one (nameless or chinese name only) located near Fortuna casino.In your opinion, how is the selection. In my previous visits there was always 40-50 in 18 and other Saunas.

Sky Ryder
03-11-24, 15:01
I haven't been to Macau since before covid, but am heading over this Friday morning. There has not been much info that is current, but I appreciate the short list of saunas that were open a few months ago at least.

If anyone has something more current I would be keen to find out and I would really like to find out if someone could point me to a legit (mostly) nice massage place that may or may not offer a bit of naughtiness. I have been surprised at how little is available from a G search at all. Even the usually reliable ****** website (Macau page) is lacking.

TIA to any recent updates.

Best,

Sky.

Corpo
03-13-24, 16:31
This as close as I could find and relevant info. I am going late April.

https://macau-go.com/macau-sauna-list/

If you end up using this, please comment as to the accuracy.

Let us know if you see any activity with freelancers at MP3, Lions Bar or other clubs.


I haven't been to Macau since before covid, but am heading over this Friday morning. There has not been much info that is current, but I appreciate the short list of saunas that were open a few months ago at least.

If anyone has something more current I would be keen to find out and I would really like to find out if someone could point me to a legit (mostly) nice massage place that may or may not offer a bit of naughtiness. I have been surprised at how little is available from a G search at all. Even the usually reliable ****** website (Macau page) is lacking.

TIA to any recent updates.

Best,

Sky.

Enter The V
03-15-24, 13:06
This as close as I could find and relevant info. I am going late April.

https://macau-go.com/macau-sauna-list/

If you end up using this, please comment as to the accuracy.

Let us know if you see any activity with freelancers at MP3, Lions Bar or other clubs.Looks like a lot of saunas filled with girls! We need more reports see Mon. Mongers!

Sky Ryder
03-19-24, 10:01
This as close as I could find and relevant info. I am going late April.

https://macau-go.com/macau-sauna-list/

If you end up using this, please comment as to the accuracy.

Let us know if you see any activity with freelancers at MP3, Lions Bar or other clubs.First, thank you to Corpo for providing that link. That article helped a lot. I did not stay long enough to try the clubs. Sometimes I hear people say they "took one for the team, but after seeing my bill for the 8 hours or so at the sauna, I may now "own" that team.

I hadn't been in a Macau sauna since 2019. All I can say is big picture they have reliable services from some very pretty ladies, but make sure to bring a substantial amount of money if you feel like having a really good time. The Excellent Sauna is located on the 10 floor of the Grand Emperor Hotel. The facilities are new, clean and comfortable. All the staff I interacted with are friendly and very helpful and do NOT expect tips. The manager told me that all the public areas have cameras and the management very much discourages employees taking tips. Of course what happens in the rooms is not watched, according to her and I cannot imagine a business taking the chance of a customer finding out they are being recorded in intimate moments.

The dollar amounts I am giving are all in HKD and are rounded up. The basic entry fee is $1800. You can add a 90 massage for a $2100 entry fee, and I did this after speaking with the manager. There are some options for when you are in the relaxing area with the reclining chairs. All of these services are $288 and that is billed in 20 minute increments. These services include, ear cleaning, head and neck massage, foot massage, manicure / pedicure, and my personal favorite a "thigh massage". The thigh massage is done by a lady dressed in a very short dark blue skirt, high heels and a dark blue top that affords some nice views as she performs her tasks. I wound up having three of these done, all by Vietnamese ladies. The first by #99, who was a total smoke show, I would have loved to choose her out of a line up, but not to be. The goal as far as I can tell is to massage your manhood all the way to the brink of completion, but that is not allowed to happen in the public areas. All three of these ladies were excellent at this task. #99 is very pretty and she kept asking me to extend for another 20 minutes, but I was not going to be able to last that long and other plans. #77 was also very good and was the only lady that didn't wrap a towel around her waist during the massage. The towel prevents the customer from staring up that short skirt for the entire time of the massage and allows some touching moments on occasion as well. I was told I could take the thigh massage girls into a private massage room, they would get naked, but no sex allowed with them. Only a hand job. I am sure it would have been an epic hand job, but the fees are up to the lady and I was quoted a fee that ranged from $8000 to $4000 (those are not typos). 20 minutes for $288 was a bargain.

The prices for the line up full service ladies range from $3100 to $6400 for a 50 minute session. Now that number does include the basic entry fee, so choosing one of the less expensive girls is $1300 more than the basic entry fee. The top end are the Korean and Japanese ladies. There was one each at about 7:00 pm and while pretty did not push the meter to pay that kind of money. I chose #780 a petite Viet (the Viet girls are the lowest priced) Chinese next, then Thai (I didn't see any) Singapore, then Korea and Japan). Each group has levels inside the group. They also have a manager to tell you what the color tags they wear mean for pricing. We got to the room and she asked if she could bring her sister for a threesome. I originally said no, but she was persistent and said it really was her sister (which happens to be / was a bucket list item for me). I finally said yes and her sister came to the room. It cost and additional $1300 for her to join us. The service was actually pretty good from both, but changing condoms really messes with the whole timing of things. I won't do two at the same time again. I'the take either of them one on one again though. After we finished I took a shower, soaked in the hot pool, got something to eat (all included, but they do not sell alcohol) and went back out to relax. The foot massage and neck massage girls are relentless, but I declined. After about an hour I did get another "thigh massage", again a real looker and then asked for another line up. This time I chose #702, another Viet with nice curves and natural breasts. Her BBJ was other worldly and if I hadn't wanted to see her ass bounce off of me I would have let her CIM me. Repeated with the hot pool and food and went back to the relax chairs. I then got my 90 minute massage from a 35-40 year old Viet lady that did a nice massage, but I was sure if there was more on offer. She tickled the boys some, but I wasn't really into a HJ. I did go back and get a thigh massage from #77 who I had seen earlier but was not able to connect. She was a lot of fun and I was surprised that she was able to revive the little one. That was really my intention with the massage to see if there was any life left. After my 20 minutes I showered and dressed and headed out. I knew I had run up a tab, but it exceeded my expectations by more than $1000. The girls were $1300 each. The thigh massages were $288 each, and then they charged me $1000 for the 90 minute oil massage. I thought it was included with the extra $300 entry fee, and that is what the manager told me. I missed one word she said.she said the massage was "discounted" and I even asked before if that meant I got it as part of the upgraded entry fee. I spoke with a higher level manager, but in the end it wasn't worth the hassle. Overall I had a great time, they have some really stunningly beautiful girls and I would go back again. I won't include the massage this time and limit myself to one or two ladies. The thigh massages are epic and I would highly recommend trying them. I might try 18 Sauna next trip just to compare. With the girls, I would have paid a little more if there was one that really moved me, but I was happy with all the ladies I saw. Hope this helps and again appreciate the information. I will keep up with the replies and see what else is going on in Macau.

Sky.

Corpo
03-19-24, 13:58
Thanks for the report. So to understand correctly, $1800 for basic entry and then on top of that 3100-6000 extra for a full service girl?


First, thank you to Corpo for providing that link. That article helped a lot. I did not stay long enough to try the clubs. Sometimes I hear people say they "took one for the team, but after seeing my bill for the 8 hours or so at the sauna, I may now "own" that team.

I hadn't been in a Macau sauna since 2019. All I can say is big picture they have reliable services from some very pretty ladies, but make sure to bring a substantial amount of money if you feel like having a really good time. The Excellent Sauna is located on the 10 floor of the Grand Emperor Hotel. The facilities are new, clean and comfortable. All the staff I interacted with are friendly and very helpful and do NOT expect tips. The manager told me that all the public areas have cameras and the management very much discourages employees taking tips. Of course what happens in the rooms is not watched, according to her and I cannot imagine a business taking the chance of a customer finding out they are being recorded in intimate moments.

The dollar amounts I am giving are all in HKD and are rounded up. The basic entry fee is $1800. You can add a 90 massage for a $2100 entry fee, and I did this after speaking with the manager. There are some options for when you are in the relaxing area with the reclining chairs. All of these services are $288 and that is billed in 20 minute increments. These services include, ear cleaning, head and neck massage, foot massage, manicure / pedicure, and my personal favorite a "thigh massage". The thigh massage is done by a lady dressed in a very short dark blue skirt, high heels and a dark blue top that affords some nice views as she performs her tasks. I wound up having three of these done, all by Vietnamese ladies. The first by #99, who was a total smoke show, I would have loved to choose her out of a line up, but not to be. The goal as far as I can tell is to massage your manhood all the way to the brink of completion, but that is not allowed to happen in the public areas. All three of these ladies were excellent at this task. #99 is very pretty and she kept asking me to extend for another 20 minutes, but I was not going to be able to last that long and other plans. #77 was also very good and was the only lady that didn't wrap a towel around her waist during the massage. The towel prevents the customer from staring up that short skirt for the entire time of the massage and allows some touching moments on occasion as well. I was told I could take the thigh massage girls into a private massage room, they would get naked, but no sex allowed with them. Only a hand job. I am sure it would have been an epic hand job, but the fees are up to the lady and I was quoted a fee that ranged from $8000 to $4000 (those are not typos). 20 minutes for $288 was a bargain.

The prices for the line up full service ladies range from $3100 to $6400 for a 50 minute session. Now that number does include the basic entry fee, so choosing one of the less expensive girls is $1300 more than the basic entry fee. The top end are the Korean and Japanese ladies. There was one each at about 7:00 pm and while pretty did not push the meter to pay that kind of money. I chose #780 a petite Viet (the Viet girls are the lowest priced) Chinese next, then Thai (I didn't see any) Singapore, then Korea and Japan). Each group has levels inside the group. They also have a manager to tell you what the color tags they wear mean for pricing. We got to the room and she asked if she could bring her sister for a threesome. I originally said no, but she was persistent and said it really was her sister (which happens to be / was a bucket list item for me). I finally said yes and her sister came to the room. It cost and additional $1300 for her to join us. The service was actually pretty good from both, but changing condoms really messes with the whole timing of things. I won't do two at the same time again. I'the take either of them one on one again though. After we finished I took a shower, soaked in the hot pool, got something to eat (all included, but they do not sell alcohol) and went back out to relax. The foot massage and neck massage girls are relentless, but I declined. After about an hour I did get another "thigh massage", again a real looker and then asked for another line up. This time I chose #702, another Viet with nice curves and natural breasts. Her BBJ was other worldly and if I hadn't wanted to see her ass bounce off of me I would have let her CIM me. Repeated with the hot pool and food and went back to the relax chairs. I then got my 90 minute massage from a 35-40 year old Viet lady that did a nice massage, but I was sure if there was more on offer. She tickled the boys some, but I wasn't really into a HJ. I did go back and get a thigh massage from #77 who I had seen earlier but was not able to connect. She was a lot of fun and I was surprised that she was able to revive the little one. That was really my intention with the massage to see if there was any life left. After my 20 minutes I showered and dressed and headed out. I knew I had run up a tab, but it exceeded my expectations by more than $1000. The girls were $1300 each. The thigh massages were $288 each, and then they charged me $1000 for the 90 minute oil massage. I thought it was included with the extra $300 entry fee, and that is what the manager told me. I missed one word she said.she said the massage was "discounted" and I even asked before if that meant I got it as part of the upgraded entry fee. I spoke with a higher level manager, but in the end it wasn't worth the hassle. Overall I had a great time, they have some really stunningly beautiful girls and I would go back again. I won't include the massage this time and limit myself to one or two ladies. The thigh massages are epic and I would highly recommend trying them. I might try 18 Sauna next trip just to compare. With the girls, I would have paid a little more if there was one that really moved me, but I was happy with all the ladies I saw. Hope this helps and again appreciate the information. I will keep up with the replies and see what else is going on in Macau.

Sky.

Sky Ryder
03-20-24, 11:18
Thanks for the report. So to understand correctly, $1800 for basic entry and then on top of that 3100-6000 extra for a full service girl?I really tried to figure out how to best say how the pricing works and I did not do a good job. Entering the Sauna costs $1800, the price for the first girl you choose will include that $1800 entry fee. If you choose a girl priced at $3100 your total bill will be $3100. Any additional services will be added to that fee (or whatever the price is for the most expensive girl you choose if more than one). As an example, if you got two 20 min thigh massages for $288 each, the total would be $3100+288+288. Any additional girls would be the price of the girl minus $1800, example another girl in a $5100 price group would cost you an additional $3300, ($5100-1800=$3300.) They will add an additional $3300 to your total bill. The entry fee is only charged once.

I hope this explains it better. I'll be curious to read reviews if anyone tries a different sauna.

Best,

Sky.

Corpo
03-20-24, 13:38
Thanks. That makes sense now. About $400 USD min for a full service girl. It's been over 5 years for so as expected prices have gone up.


I really tried to figure out how to best say how the pricing works and I did not do a good job. Entering the Sauna costs $1800, the price for the first girl you choose will include that $1800 entry fee. If you choose a girl priced at $3100 your total bill will be $3100. Any additional services will be added to that fee (or whatever the price is for the most expensive girl you choose if more than one). As an example, if you got two 20 min thigh massages for $288 each, the total would be $3100+288+288. Any additional girls would be the price of the girl minus $1800, example another girl in a $5100 price group would cost you an additional $3300, ($5100-1800=$3300.) They will add an additional $3300 to your total bill. The entry fee is only charged once.

I hope this explains it better. I'll be curious to read reviews if anyone tries a different sauna.

Best,

Sky.

Axel Heyst
03-20-24, 14:22
I hadn't been in a Macau sauna since 2019. All I can say is big picture they have reliable services from some very pretty ladies, but make sure to bring a substantial amount of money if you feel like having a really good time. The Excellent Sauna is located on the 10 floor of the Grand Emperor Hotel. The facilities are new, clean and comfortable.

<snip> The top end are the Korean and Japanese ladies. There was one each at about 7:00 pm and while pretty did not push the meter to pay that kind of money. I chose #780 a petite Viet (the Viet girls are the lowest priced) Chinese next, then Thai (I didn't see any) Singapore, then Korea and Japan). Each group has levels inside the group. They also have a manager to tell you what the color tags they wear mean for pricing. We got to the room and she asked if she could bring her sister for a threesome. I originally said no, but she was persistent and said it really was her sister (which happens to be / was a bucket list item for me). I finally said yes and her sister came to the room. It cost and additional $1300 for her to join us. The service was actually pretty good from both, but changing condoms really messes with the whole timing of things. I won't do two at the same time again. I'the take either of them one on one again though. After we finished I took a shower, soaked in the hot pool, got something to eat (all included, but they do not sell alcohol) and went back out to relax. The foot massage and neck massage girls are relentless, but I declined. After about an hour I did get another "thigh massage", again a real looker and then asked for another line up. This time I chose #702, another Viet with nice curves and natural breasts. Her BBJ was other worldly and if I hadn't wanted to see her ass bounce off of me I would have let her CIM me. Repeated with the hot pool and food and went back to the relax chairs. I then got my 90 minute massage from a 35-40 year old Viet lady that did a nice massage, but I was sure if there was more on offer. She tickled the boys some, but I wasn't really into a HJ. I did go back and get a thigh massage from #77 who I had seen earlier but was not able to connect. She was a lot of fun and I was surprised that she was able to revive the little one. That was really my intention with the massage to see if there was any life left. After my 20 minutes I showered and dressed and headed out. I knew I had run up a tab, but it exceeded my expectations by more than $1000. The girls were $1300 each. The thigh massages were $288 each, and then they charged me $1000 for the 90 minute oil massage. I thought it was included with the extra $300 entry fee, and that is what the manager told me. I missed one word she said.she said the massage was "discounted" and I even asked before if that meant I got it as part of the upgraded entry fee. I spoke with a higher level manager, but in the end it wasn't worth the hassle. Overall I had a great time, they have some really stunningly beautiful girls and I would go back again. I won't include the massage this time and limit myself to one or two ladies..
I really tried to figure out how to best say how the pricing works and I did not do a good job. Entering the Sauna costs $1800, the price for the first girl you choose will include that $1800 entry fee. If you choose a girl priced at $3100 your total bill will be $3100. Any additional services will be added to that fee (or whatever the price is for the most expensive girl you choose if more than one). As an example, if you got two 20 min thigh massages for $288 each, the total would be $3100+288+288. Any additional girls would be the price of the girl minus $1800, example another girl in a $5100 price group would cost you an additional $3300, ($5100-1800=$3300.) They will add an additional $3300 to your total bill. The entry fee is only charged once..Great posts, Sky. I am glad to hear that Macau is still alive post-covid. I checked out Excellent Sauna on my last Macau visit in June, 2019. Your description of the place is accurate. I think of it as a smaller, high-end bordello with very friendly girls. When I was there, I chose an attractive Malaysian girl, my 1st from that country, and she was memorable.

If I were in Macau I would go back to Excellent in a heartbeat. But not before I go to Familia Nobre. 555. Rock on,

A. H.

LoveShibuyaGirls
04-01-24, 23:43
Seems like saunas are not cheap - 3,000 HKD = 400 USD.

Do you get GFE? DFK and BBBJ?

I went to 18 in 2012 and if I recall correctly, I had a nice looking Chinese lady with DFK and BBBJ. Is that still standard play?

Sky Ryder
04-03-24, 05:38
Seems like saunas are not cheap - 3,000 HKD = 400 USD.

Do you get GFE? DFK and BBBJ?

I went to 18 in 2012 and if I recall correctly, I had a nice looking Chinese lady with DFK and BBBJ. Is that still standard play?NOT cheap, but at least my visit the selection was worth the cost.

I did three girls at Excellent Sauna and 2 were DFK, all were BBBJ. Not a large sample size, but that was my experience. I suspect the DFK is 100% YMMV.

Enter The V
04-03-24, 12:01
NOT cheap, but at least my visit the selection was worth the cost.

I did three girls at Excellent Sauna and 2 were DFK, all were BBBJ. Not a large sample size, but that was my experience. I suspect the DFK is 100% YMMV.Are there any cheaper options?

Sky Ryder
04-04-24, 07:36
Are there any cheaper options?From what little recent research I can find, I doubt it. Some Saunas charge $1500 entry instead of $1800. Everything I read was the girls all start at about $1300. I don't know how much the "extra massages", like ball massage, foot massage, etc cost at other places but it has to be competitive. I don't see how you can get out of the sauna for less than about $3000.

VagigiLover
04-05-24, 02:53
From what little recent research I can find, I doubt it. Some Saunas charge $1500 entry instead of $1800. Everything I read was the girls all start at about $1300. I don't know how much the "extra massages", like ball massage, foot massage, etc cost at other places but it has to be competitive. I don't see how you can get out of the sauna for less than about $3000.Usually $550 HKD for an entry fee, and then lineup girl around 1400 HKD. I love thigh massage, I think its around $230 HKD. I'll be in Nacau ssson and will check out prices of a fw. Prob FN, 18, or The One.

Sky Ryder
04-06-24, 02:28
Usually $550 HKD for an entry fee, and then lineup girl around 1400 HKD. I love thigh massage, I think its around $230 HKD. I'll be in Nacau ssson and will check out prices of a fw. Prob FN, 18, or The One.I am very interested to find a sauna in Macau that has an entry fee of $550 HKD. Every sauna I researched was charging between $1500-1800 HKD. The charge for one of the ladies for a 50 minute session was in the $3000 HKD range, but that fee for the first lady would include your entry fee. So one session with a lady would be a total charge of about $3000. Any additional ladies would add about $1300 and up, depending on the "classification" of the lady. If you can find a place to have a sauna experience for $2000 HKD in Macau that will an awesome find!

TIA.

Sky.