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Went to Teen 3 VIP on Soi 33 looking for Boom as a repeat customer - no longer in the book but still on the website. Chose Tengmoo instead. Turns out she is based in Teen 2 (Soi 24/1) so had to wait for her.Nice smiling face when she arrives and she's stripped off and in the shower with me straight away, no questions from her about "specials" first. She's advertised as 18 in the book and told me she was 18 as well but her body looks to have more miles on it than that - stretch marks on her breasts and a bit saggy, a bit of a belly and more stretch marks - so I guess she's had a baby. Saying that, she's got a very nice looking and tasty pussy.She started a massage on my back that wasn't up to much and didn't bother with massaging my front at all, straight into action when she flipped me over. CBJ (wouldn't budge on that) and usual positions. I was tired after a long flight so took a while finishing but she put plenty of effort into it. Asked a few times "is this good", "is that good" and genuinely seemed interested in customer satisfaction.Looks 7Body 5Effort 9Attitude 8
An early afternoon visit to Angels. My three pre-visit choices either day off, booked or "not in yet" (i.e. late). Chose Boom from the book. She actually looks better in real life than her picture in the book and on the website.Big change in standard procedure since my last visit 9 months ago. You now have to pay the room fee (600Bht for 1.5hrs) and 1500Bht for the girl up front at the desk - you always paid the girl in the room in the past on the 500/1000/1500Bht sliding scale. I asked Boom in the room why this started and if she gets all the money but she couldn't / wouldn't answer, maybe a language barrier. Assuming the girl does get all she is due, I can't make up my mind if this is good or bad as I almost always go for the 1500 option anyway but I spent too long thinking about this during the session and it put a bit of a damper on it. If you know about it upfront it shouldn't be an issue, I guess.Anyway, back to Boom. 22 yrs old, absolutely cracking body on her, ripped and solid stomach, 32 / 34 C cups pointing in the right direction, no fat on her except where it should be. Gets to work in the shower with plenty of close contact and caressing in both directions. Good oily body-to-body rub down with her breasts getting everywhere, front and back. Good engergetic horizontal action. Only negatives are CBJ and playing with her pussy discouraged.Looks 9Body 9.5Effort 8Attitude 7Had an evening session at Dream Heaven on Soi 33. Totally different body shape compared to Boom (spinner) but a good looker and great fun. BBJCIM, almost anything goes, great attitude, a keeper. Please excuse me for not revealing her name but I will be repeating so don't want to reduce chances of her being free when I turn up. I'll post her name when I'm gone.
Traveler1234
12-08-09, 21:50
Had an evening session at Dream Heaven on Soi 33.... Please excuse me for not revealing her name but I will be repeating so don't want to reduce chances of her being free when I turn up. I'll post her name when I'm gone.BESTARD ;)
BESTARD ;)Got to take your opportunities as they arise and load the dice in your favour whenever possible.She is goooooood! "Tell me what you like." "Tell me what you want to do to me." "Tell me what to do to you." "Tell me, tell me!" Goooooood!Any plans for you to visit BKK in near to mid future?
NicFrenchy
12-09-09, 15:00
Anyway, back to Boom. 22 yrs old, absolutely cracking body on herYou really meant BOOM or BEEM? they have both.
.....Had an evening session at Dream Heaven on Soi 33. Totally different body shape compared to Boom (spinner) but a good looker and great fun. BBJCIM, almost anything goes, great attitude, a keeper. Please excuse me for not revealing her name but I will be repeating so don't want to reduce chances of her being free when I turn up. I'll post her name when I'm gone.And when are you leaving?Just so someone can remind you of your promise -:)
Superb FR.
Shower up and some bye bye kisses. She did ask if I would see her again and I said that I would. I don't know when I'll return to Mango but I will book Bo when I do. She's got superstar written all over her.
You really meant BOOM or BEEM? they have both.Definitely Boom. I know I was looking for Boom in Teen 3 VIP but it was Boom in Angels as well. Pure coincidence.The three I had in mind before heading there were Rina (off), Wine (late) and Cherry (busy). Picked Boom from the book.Daddy San - got a couple of days in BKK next week then off home. Will let you know, don't worry. Or maybe not, just to be a bestard. ;)
Hi everybody,First of all a big thanks to this forum. Thanks to you guys I had some great sessions in a few amazing places like Tulip, Sazanka or Emanuelle. Won't make a long report about it. Just have to admit that Tulip never desapointed.Now a question for the senior members of this board. I have an asian girlfriend, not thai. I speak a bit of thai, she doesn't. We visited Thailand quite a few times together and she seems to be up for a 3some with a thai girl. Not sure how to proceed.We watched porn together and she seemed to like the idea of a more experienced girl (like 30's) taking care of her. Any suggestion? Actually I'm a bit hesitating between places like tulip, or Annie's where the service should be good (is there any girl known to be into lesbian?) but where the crappy rooms may be a turnoff for her and soapies where we can get a great room but with a hit or miss for the service. Of course we could also take the girl to our Hotel.Any recomendation, places, name of girls known to be good at this. Would be great.Thanks to all,CheersKaraoke22
Traveler1234
12-10-09, 17:23
Got to take your opportunities as they arise and load the dice in your favour whenever possible.She is goooooood! "Tell me what you like." "Tell me what you want to do to me." "Tell me what to do to you." "Tell me, tell me!" Goooooood!Any plans for you to visit BKK in near to mid future?Unfortunately no :(
NicFrenchy
12-11-09, 01:57
Any recomendation, places, name of girls known to be good at this. Would be great.1. I think the best is to be in your Hotel, your girlfriend will be more comfortable than in a dingy room like at Tulip for example.2. The best place that I know of is Eden Club. Go there, and choose a girl to be barfined for the night. it's 3,000 from 22:00 to 06:00. She will also come with a range of Dildos adn stuff.3. You could always go to the Eden Club. Ladies can join for free.Pick any 2 ladies, and up you go... all the 4 of you. If it's too much, ask one girl to tape the thing on camera. Maybe the girls can take turn?Anyway, Eden club would definately be my place of choice for this.
Merci beaucoup Nic Frenchy,I guess that would definitly be an interesting option and a sure way to get an experienced and enthousiastic girl that will lead the operations.I'll keep that idea preciously, but in case I feel it's a too hardcore option for a first time next time we're in BKK, do you have any idea of a girl known to be good at kinky oil massage to girls. I heard a lot about Rin of Hana 22, would she be able to do her magic to girls? Is there someone else that you could think of? Or a soapy girl that would be into that?Thanks again!Karaoke22
Member #2041
12-11-09, 15:45
i have to put in a great review for a provider named dream at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in bangkok. she gave me the best bj of my life today. i was having a hard time finishing, due to over-use of that muscle in the past few days, and i was ready to tell her to stop, as it was my fault i wasn't finishing. she took it as a point of professional pride to get me home. she literally worked herself into a state of virtual exhaustion, and was sweating profusely by the time i came - after what was probably 40 minutes or so. what a doll. and it doesn't hurt that, unlike just about every other lady at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), dream is also quite beautiful, something in the 8.5-9 range on looks, compared to most of the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) crew that tends to run in the 3-7 range. i tipped her 500 for a job exceptionally well done.
Member #2041
12-11-09, 15:49
I happened to be in the Patpong area yesterday (I was buying fake watches) when I stopped by S-O-L yesterday, to see my old friend Rabbit. I ended up not going with her. I am said to say it, but I believe that several years of swallowing semen from thousands of men may actually be taking it's toll on her well-being - if you can imagine that.
Hi everybody,First of all a big thanks to this forum. Thanks to you guys I had some great sessions in a few amazing places like Tulip, Sazanka or Emanuelle. Won't make a long report about it. Just have to admit that Tulip never desapointed.Now a question for the senior members of this board. I have an asian girlfriend, not thai. I speak a bit of thai, she doesn't. We visited Thailand quite a few times together and she seems to be up for a 3some with a thai girl. Not sure how to proceed.We watched porn together and she seemed to like the idea of a more experienced girl (like 30's) taking care of her. Any suggestion? Actually I'm a bit hesitating between places like tulip, or Annie's where the service should be good (is there any girl known to be into lesbian?) but where the crappy rooms may be a turnoff for her and soapies where we can get a great room but with a hit or miss for the service. Of course we could also take the girl to our Hotel.Any recomendation, places, name of girls known to be good at this. Would be great.Thanks to all,CheersKaraoke22I think you should contact Aey at Annie's Massage and arrange for the most suitable lady with her. You can find her e-mail address at the bottom of this web page:http://www.anniesbangkok.com/FAQ%27sAnnies.htmlSome time ago somebody posted a report on this website about his threesome experience with his wife and a massage lady at Annie's Massage. And from the sound of it, it was a mutually enjoyable experience for all three of them. The Annie's Massage lady was probably a bisexual. Because she did a good job on both the guy and his wife. His wife she aroused to the point where the wife was more than ready to fuck. And then the massage lady invited the wife to fuck her husband, with some sensual massage for the couple from the massage lady during the ride.A big concern in a situation like this is that your girlfriend might feel left out and in competition with the massage lady for your attention. And that certainly would be a big turn-off for her. That's why you need to go with an experienced massage lady who knows what she is doing and tries to facilitate a great fuck between you and your girlfriend instead of coming in between the two of you and ruining the day for your girlfriend.
NicFrenchy
12-12-09, 07:30
I heard a lot about Rin of Hana 22, would she be able to do her magic to girls? Oh yes, she would be able to do more than you can imagine! She is totally comfortable with girls and this would not be her first threesome. There was a report of a Threesome with Rin some time ago.Keep in mind she is older, but I am sure your GF will feel safe with her.
Thanks a bunch to NicFrenchy and Dan7373 for their responses. You guys totally understood the main issue which is not to put her in a position where she would feel threatened or in competition with the girl.So it's really important that I find an older girl really into lesbian. The idea of an oil massage to her seems better for a start than a full porn 3some. If she respond well to the stimulation of the girl, then I may try to participate, with me and the girl both focusing on pleasuring my girlfriend.I don't think she would find fun to see me fucking some girl just in front of her and I totally understand that. So yes, the spirit is totally finding a girl to arouse her leading to us having sex while the girl keep on caressing and kissing her.It seems to me than Rin may be the woman for the job. Any other suggestions in that range of girls?Thanks again!
Many of the girls at Mango and Snow White do lesbian (I think all Mango girls do ?).Anyway, you can try there, or take away.As ever, phone them up first, tell them what you want.Last time I was at Snow White a couple were in the rooms on the same floor, the girl in one room with a girl, the guy in another with a girl.....not exactly a 3 some but a different angle to try perhaps to let her get used to the girl first, and then arrange a 3 some back at the hotel later.http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/http://mangomassagesoi24.com/
Member #3428
12-13-09, 17:06
Many of the girls at Mango and Snow White do lesbian (I think all Mango girls do ?).Please.... You are still promoting your second rate wh@re houses I see. There is a HUGE difference between a wh@re (mango and snow white and every other venue in BKK) who will sex anything including a water buffalo for money and a girl who will willingly enjoy a bisexual experience. And an even greater difference in finding a girl who will make your GF feel comfortable, teach her, guide her, and move her into threesomes and bisexual experiences. For that you can't walk into any wh@re house you promote and find that. Getting a girl to be comfortable with your GF, and getting your GF comfortable with a wh@re is not as easy as waling into Mango and saying please fuck my GF. Even Nice at Tulip is not right for every girl and she is good at going with other ladies. I've experienced Rin, four different Tulip Girls, one Snow White girl, some girls from annies, and countless others in threesomes, foursomes and more with my GF. The one place my GF would NOT pick a girl was Eden but of course I've tasted their offerings but without the GF. And I have to tell you that Rin, a girl from Beer Garden, one girl form annies, and a girl from Cowboy were by far the best experiences we had. But finding the right match to not intimidate the girl, make it enjoyable and such is hard to do especially at first. And no, not all girls at annies who say they will do lesbians are good or enjoy at doing this. Repeatedly I've been told by even annies girls that they offer lesbian / bisexual experiences but they are only acting. Just like most girls. You really need to find the "right" girls at all locations and venues and walking into mango is not going to cut it. Once your / his GF is more dominate in her demands with another girl then it is easier as she is looking for a wh@re, which is exactly what 90% of these girls are. Wh@res out for a little money. Including your vaulted Mango which is only another wh@re house that offers nothing different then any other place... The last place I'd look for a joiner for my GF would be Mango or Snow White. Those are places guys go for three holes (along with going to Tulip). I take a few weeks off for work in SEA and I come back to see you promoting the same shit. Next think you will be telling folks they get 100% refund if not happy at Mango. You are as bad as the two folks you slam repeatedly.
Member #4698
12-13-09, 23:10
Please. You are still promoting your second rate whatre houses I C.. (mango and snow white.)Hey Tansak,I am taking no sides in this forum war, but since you have written some very informative reports in the past, I am just asking: since you consider Mango a 2nd rate place, what do consider as a Premier Class place? I would put forth the high end Soapies like La Belle, Long Beach, and Tarawadee qualify. And I really like them.But I also enjoy the oily parlors, although I have to admit I judge them on less critical criteria than the Soapies. All I want at an oily massage parlor is a good selection of girls, consistent service, and clean rooms. If I get that then I am satisfied and rate the place highly.I have not been to Mango Massage yet. It opened after my last visit. The consensus seems to be that although the atmosphere (rooms) is not too great and the girls could be better looking, the service provided is top drawer. So I am planning to visit as soon as I arrive. I will also go back to my favorite places like Angel Massage. So the issue is, are there any 1st rate oily massage parlors in BKK?
NicFrenchy
12-14-09, 02:25
I completely agree with Tansak. Rin is a Masseuse, she has given me GREAT deep tissue massage so I can guarantee she knows what she is doing. I am not sure the Wh@res @ Mango and Snow white would know how to massage.Also, I am not certain the girl necessarily need to be a lesbian, it is all about getting his Girlfriend to feel relaxed and not rushed (something I feel a 20 years old from Mango would not be able to do).Places like Mango adn Snow white are all about sex, from the moment you enter to the one you leave. Guys never have massages there so my guess is the ladies don't have the first damn clue about massage.RIN, on the other hand, can be very patient, do a good massage for a good hour before even starting the kinky stuff.There was a review somewhere praising her on a threesome, the guy was so happy with how Rin massaged the girl and the guy and then everything came naturally as they had sex.I hope it goes well for you and please post a review
Well, this is the "Except Tulips and Annies" so its the right thread for a start, something a lot of people like you fail to keep to.All I will say is make your own mind up, call up the place ahead, prepare the girl you want, make the arrangements and off you go.Quite a number of couples do go to SW and Mango (as I am sure some do to that place starting with "A") and therefore there are girls ready and able to do what you need, who are indeed bi (and not just doing it for the money).Tansak says "And I have to tell you that Rin, a girl from Beer Garden, one girl form annies, and a girl from Cowboy were by far the best experiences we had"And of course, all of those got paid money and are working girls, but he says do not use working girls.On that note I will leave you to work out who the emotional fool is who should engage the brain before the typing fingers.And please note this thread is """""""""""""Except Tulips and Annies" """"""""""""And you go and menton both of them. LOL
Please. You are still promoting your second rate whatre houses I C.There is a HUGE difference between a whatre (mango and snow white and every other venue in BKK) who will sex anything including a water buffalo for money and a girl who will willingly enjoy a bisexual experience. And an even greater difference in finding a girl who will make your GF feel comfortable, teach her, guide her, and move her into threesomes and bisexual experiences. For that you can't walk into any whatre house you promote and find that.Getting a girl to be comfortable with your GF, and getting your GF comfortable with a whatre is not as easy as waling into Mango and saying please fuck my GF. Even Nice at Tulip is not right for every girl and she is good at going with other ladies.I've experienced Rin, four different Tulip Girls, one Snow White girl, some girls from annies, and countless others in threesomes, foursomes and more with my GF. The one place my GF would NOT pick a girl was Eden but of course I've tasted their offerings but without the GF.And I have to tell you that Rin, a girl from Beer Garden, one girl form annies, and a girl from Cowboy were by far the best experiences we had. But finding the right match to not intimidate the girl, make it enjoyable and such is hard to do especially at first. And no, not all girls at annies who say they will do lesbians are good or enjoy at doing this. Repeatedly I've been told by even annies girls that they offer lesbian / bisexual experiences but they are only acting. Just like most girls. You really need to find the "right" girls at all locations and venues and walking into mango is not going to cut it.Once your / his GF is more dominate in her demands with another girl then it is easier as she is looking for a whatre, which is exactly what 90% of these girls are. Whatres out for a little money. Including your vaulted Mango which is only another whatre house that offers nothing different then any other place.The last place I'd look for a joiner for my GF would be Mango or Snow White. Those are places guys go for three holes (along with going to Tulip).I take a few weeks off for work in SEA and I come back to see you promoting the same shit. Next think you will be telling folks they get 100% refund if not happy at Mango. You are as bad as the two folks you slam repeatedly.
Member #3428
12-14-09, 07:58
hey tansak,i am taking no sides in this forum war, but since you have written some very informative reports in the past, i am just asking: since you consider mango a 2nd rate place, what do consider as a premier class place? i would put forth the high end soapies like la belle, long beach, and tarawadee qualify. and i really like them.but i also enjoy the oily parlors, although i have to admit i judge them on less critical criteria than the soapies. all i want at an oily massage parlor is a good selection of girls, consistent service, and clean rooms. if i get that then i am satisfied and rate the place highly.i have not been to mango massage yet. it opened after my last visit. the consensus seems to be that although the atmosphere (rooms) is not too great and the girls could be better looking, the service provided is top drawer. so i am planning to visit as soon as i arrive. i will also go back to my favorite places like angel massage. so the issue is, are there any 1st rate oily massage parlors in bkk?war? i did not know there was a war going on... i'm just sick and tired of different sides slamming each other and doing self promotion especially on multiple boards. it's gotten so lame that many posters, myself included are starting to care less and not posting any useful information anymore. but as an older group of posters fade away a new crop comes up to take over so all is good. just waiting for the new crop to show up and take over. but the constant attacking of places and promotion of other is childish. giotto promotes his operation but he promotes others as well if you followed his reports in the past and talk to him he provides valuable information and supports all venues in bkk. i've even tried to meet the so called pro multiple times but he refuses the invites... i actually think he and i would agree on more then he imagines. honestly i think we agree on many items but we view them form different angles so there is no war, i'm just a peaceful rabbit. anyways... to me mango, snow white and tulip are second rate massage joints. not because of their service, their service is pure sex. the girls are not the best looking and you walk in and you get your three holes and you are out the door. they are pure performers that you go to just get your nuts off and leave. yes some girls you can establish relationships with and i have taken many out after work and during their days off. they are nice girls some of them when you get to know them. but for joe punter who shows up in bkk they are a three holer wham bam leave the cash on the table bye bye type girls. do you really think you will get top performance from these girls if you show up one day and then leave. they are working, it is mechanical and a job to them. they sometimes are great actresses and let you fullfill your fantasy but they surely are not happy about taking your dick up their ass all day long. the statement by the pro was that mango girls are lesbians... that is pure bull shit, they are not lesbians but most girls at many places will do a girl for the right price. however these same girls would suck off a water buffalo for the right price so that does not help the poster who wants to slowly introduce his girl to bisexuality it only self promotes his interests. you want to slowly introduce your gf to bisexual experience with a hardened pro who just took a dick up her ass while she sucked off a water buffalo??? you use the tulip, eden, snow white, mango girls for your gf to be the dominate one and use the girls for what they are, working girls. and yeah i should take back calling them wh@res as i know most of them and enjoy many of them, but when they are working, on the clock, that is what they are. soapies... personally i dislike them... i want multiple shots pure session. you can get that from some girls at soapies but walking into most soapies (looking like a farang but not really being one) you are mostly offered one shot and get out. you need to spend time to establish your relationships with the location and the girls. that's not my cup of tea. they are fun once in a while when i feel lazy but for the most part, a good soapie is performed in your suite with it's own jacuzzi or bathtub where a girl can give you hours of attention and satisfaction. best top rated places... there are some nice places but like everything else it is the chemistry you establish with the girl. it won't happen first visit, and most mp's try to limit you to one shot (except, annies, tulip, mango, snow white, eden, some others) and you need to build up a history with the establishment and the girls. biggest mistake people make is thinking the girls do not talk and that they will forget you. girls talk and word spreads if you treat them nice or if you tip or if you are an ass or not. i have a great girl at aviva that i know provides terrible service to others, but we click so for us it is great. does that help you or other readers? you like angle, many folks do, but you sound like you know the place and have invested in it, that is what you need to do to find top enjoyment. my biggest pet peeve is when people pm me or read reports and think that because one guy got a girl to do something and had a great time then that girl will do the same for everyone. it has nothing to do with a girl or a report, it has everything to do with the connection you establish with the girl and what works for me will not work for every one else. what i find attractive is not what others find attractive. but we can all find what we like in sea. so there's no war, just difference of opinions. the best sex you will get is if you frequent places, establish a history with the ladies, treat them nice, and take them out of the mp to your own place. plane and simple. but for 99.999% of the wankers out there that only get one trip per year or one trip per five years and want pure sex... go to eden, tulip, annies, mango, snow white, etc... as they are just sex factories.... but there is a lot better out there when you find the right ladies. for me, i'll never find top drawer sex at any mp or oily... the top performances are all take out, before work, or after work. i use former girls to find new girls, as former girls know me, know my style, know what i will do to the girls and what i like etc... so for me, treating girls nice (and yes that nasty word for many tipping) and having them set up girls for me works the best. in two weeks i'm shipping in three girls from lao as i found the pussy taste delicious on non working lao girls :d nothing like taking sand to the beach but wtf... gotta try everything once in life. i figure shipping in some outside talent who only want a boy friend, some shopping, food and holiday for 800 baht bus ride and they know i'm going to go be a complete wh@re at mp's and bars is worth the investment to try it out.
NicFrenchy
12-14-09, 13:24
Biggest mistake people make is thinking the girls do not talk and that they will forget you. GIRLS talk and word spreads if you treat them nice or if you tip or if you are an ass or not. Well what the fuck else can they do other than talking when they are all cramped in their cubicle waiting for punters?YES, they talk, and a lot! and about EVERYTHING... form your dick size to your hair, if you have power or not, if you are gentle, if you're a total ass, how much tip you left... In a setting like Mango, ALL the girls see you when you go in so they will remember next time. For me, I always treat the girls nice but don't accept bullshit so the girls are also warned that they can't pull a fast one on me. Also, I TIP very well if efforts are made.
In two weeks I'm shipping in three girls from Lao as I found the pussy taste delicious on non working lao girls :D Well the same can be said from non P4P Thai girls, but then again, one has o really waste a lot of time on TLL, Camfrog and the likes... but always able to pull girls. Sex is at a 50% success rate for me on the first date so not too bad and the vast majorty want a repeat.Problem with these is that I Am a lying asshole and make believe I really am into them. I try to be as smooth as possible in my talk (Same as Thai guys), giving them compliments about everything. There is nothing a Thai girl loves more than a guy who is interested in HER... it is all about HER and how you make HER feel. I remember one time I called a lady employee over to my desk, I said "Miss Pretty girl, come here", and then gave her a strict talk because she did not do her task properly. At the end, instead of feeling ashamed or disappointed, she was radious! smiling from Ear to ear... she gave me a very big "wai" and said "thank you very much for call me Pretty girl". She then went on in the office and started to tell everyone. I am not even sure she listened to the rest of what I said. TIT.
Member #4698
12-14-09, 14:50
The best sex you will get is if you frequent places, establish a history with the ladies, treat them nice, and take them out of the MP to your own place. Plain and simple. But for 99. 999% of the wankers out there that only get one trip per year or one trip per five years and want pure sex. Go to Eden, tulip, annies, mango, snow white, etc. As they are just sex factories. But there is a lot better out there when you find the right ladies.For me, I'll never find top drawer sex at any MP or Oily. The top performances are all take out, before work, or after work. I use former girls to find new girls, as former girls know me, know my style; know what I will do to the girls and what I like etc. So for me, treating girls nice (and yes that nasty word for many TIPPING) and having them set up girls for me works the best.I think you hit the nail on the head here. Let me add this:Guys like me, though fairly knowledgeable and experienced (I am no cherry boy. I have been to BKK at least a dozen times since '89 and cumulatively have spent around 60 days here) can never or almost never get to the graduate level because we don't live in LOS and do not speak the language. The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.As to treating the massage girls right Absolutely. If you are a nice to them, they will remember it. Many times a girl will want to exchange cell numbers with me in order to hook up for a repeat session or date if you will. They often ask me where I am staying and suggest meeting there. If you have the time and like the girl, it is usually a good idea because the sex can be even better the 2nd and 3rd time. Most of the time, however, I like to fool around and hit a lot of different venues when I roll into town. It is Bangkok after all and you dah man! The clock is ticking. 45 days before takeoff. I can't wait!
The statement by the PRO was that Mango girls are lesbians. That is pure bull shit, they are not lesbians but most girls at many places will do a girl for thePut your glasses on old man. My post says "DO LESBIAN" and not "ARE LESBIAN".What I said means they will do it, yes, getting paid for it.Just like Rin or any other girl.I do not attempt to say they are lesbian, although some are swinging both ways by choice, not for the job only.Doh. Learn how to read before you start your emotional tirades, its very tiring.
Hey everyone,I've always been a big fan of this board, but this is my first time writing in. I'm based in Vietnam but will be making some frequent trips to Bangkok for business in the upcoming months. I was wondering what the scene is like in some of these massage parlors if you just want a BJ and no FS. Is that OK? Obviously the girl wants as much money out of you as she can get, but is there somewhere that gives a decent massage with a nice shower and a full on BJ to finish? Recommendations?I should specify that I've already been to Akana, and while I like it, I've always found the girls to be a bit below par on the looks side of things. Some of these places (Angel, Mango, Snow White) are getting good reviews, and so I was wondering if they would be good places for this kind of activity. One-price places seem out because it wouldn't be very smart on my wallet. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. And also, what's the story on photographing some of your exploits? Does anyone know a girl that's open to that, in the room? Just something I like to keep a record of when I can. Ha ha.Some great info on this board and I look forward to contributing what I can.
Traveler1234
12-14-09, 19:14
i was wondering what the scene is like in some of these massage parlors if you just want a bj and no fs. is that ok? do a search for [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and star of light - they are the two more traveled bj bars. any mp can service you - just talk to the papasan and tell him you want someone will be give you good bj and no fs required.your wallet will be empty either way you go....
do a search for [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and star of light - they are the two more traveled bj bars. thanks for the reply traveler. think i'd rather go to an mp than a bj bar though. at least from what i've read!
M P Lurker
12-15-09, 04:16
Hey everyone,I've always been a big fan of this board, but this is my first time writing in. I'm based in Vietnam but will be making some frequent trips to Bangkok for business in the upcoming months. I was wondering what the scene is like in some of these massage parlors if you just want a BJ and no FS. Is that OK? Obviously the girl wants as much money out of you as she can get, but is there somewhere that gives a decent massage with a nice shower and a full on BJ to finish? Recommendations?I should specify that I've already been to Akana, and while I like it, I've always found the girls to be a bit below par on the looks side of things. Some of these places (Angel, Mango, Snow White) are getting good reviews, and so I was wondering if they would be good places for this kind of activity. One-price places seem out because it wouldn't be very smart on my wallet. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give. And also, what's the story on photographing some of your exploits? Does anyone know a girl that's open to that, in the room? Just something I like to keep a record of when I can. Ha ha.Some great info on this board and I look forward to contributing what I can.Plenty of guys go to Oily MPs for BJ and don't bother with full sex. But the massage may be a bit ordinary.But its probably difficult to get expert massage and expert BJ in the same place. Can be found though if happen to know the right girl well trained in massage.I have no great interest in massage so I'm not expert.I don't think its a good idea to get a haircut and BJ in same shop! So why not get good massage and good blow job in separate venues too?
After being disappointed (okay, not disappointed, just not had 1st/2nd/3rd choice) on many visits to Angels I finally managed to bag Cherry. From later conversation, today was a low Japanese count day - she is normally taken by Japanese and I was her first farang customer for a long time. Oh lucky day.On first glance, when she appeared at my side, I was a wee bit taken aback, she was not quite what I was expecting from the photos on the website or in the book - shorter and older. Saying that, upstairs after a few minutes, I could see what I was looking for. After some chat I learn that the photos were taken when she started at Angels 4 years ago and were ?close-up? giving the impression of being taller. She is short - 4?6?ish. Saying that, when undressed she has a cracking body on her, a very small belly and very good handful of firm breast.Cherry is good fun and always chatting away. She has some English but that doesn?t stop her chatting. She really is good fun. In the shower she is asking a lot about the water temp. I had to ask her why and she starts telling me about a (Japanese) customer who decided to shower before she got back to the room with her basket of ?stuff?. The room had a dodgy shower thermostat but the girls knew about it -the customer didn?t. After much wailing the said customer was whisked of to hospital missing the top layer of skin from his ?? You can guess the rest.I must admit to laughing a lot at this point but holding my nuts at the same time. She wasn?t too impressed at the laughing so tactfully asked her for no more details.Back to the service. As I have said, Cherry is good fun. She has a fit body on her as well. On this visit to BKK compared to the last 9 months ago, the oily body slide seems to be the norm (good stuff). Cherry does this then leads into the cat-bath (nice as well). Flipped over, more body slide and cat-bath and I thought I was into a BBBJ but looked down to see she had slipped a condom on (skilful). A good few positions follow with happy ending for both, I think, good for me anyway.Some more chat afterwards before the shower and she is asking why farang want to come on her face or chest and not in condom inside her. Seems this is a cultural thing. Only explanation I could offer was porn ??..Looks 8.5Body 8.5Effort 8.5Attitude 9.0Would I repeat - hell yeah!
Satrai2000
12-15-09, 21:05
. Guys like me, though fairly knowledgeable and experienced (I am no cherry boy. I have been to BKK at least a dozen times since '89 and cumulatively have spent around 60 days here) can never or almost never get to the graduate level because we don't live in LOS and do not speak the language. The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it..Bro,What you are longing for is quite natural. In fact there is little to no excitement in bonking a straight-to-the-point p4p-gal. The real excitement is first to "conquer" a lady by means of conversation/drinks/dinners/whatever. That's the real thing. Bonking a p4p-gal is too easy, you only need a dick and some money. There's nothing wrong with that, but like you already stated: the real prize is getting it on with a regular gal.Don't feel offended but I am always amused by those stories of dudes who talk as if they are great heroes because they bonked some massage-gal.
You are not missing anything!Its just like anything else, when you cannot have it you want it, when you can have whenever you want it its suddenly not that appetising anymore.Thai girls can be clingy and demanding, and therefore its why the P4P scene is so big here. You pay the girl to "go away". Eg you finish your fun and pay her and she goes. She goes not call you, bother you, SMS you or whatever.When you start in the non-P4P girls you meet lots of clingy girls who want you only, want this and that, want you to do this and that and at the end of the day they have a pussy thats remarkably like a P4P girls pussy.Whilst some men might say its all the "challenge" of bedding a non-P4P girl, you will not find these same men going out with a spear to find their dinner. They buy it.I find the hassle of bedding a non-P4P girl quite boring now, too much effort and at the end of the day it more often than not costs you more money for exactly the same thing, and thats a pussy to dump your load into.And. To be honest. Most Thai non P4P girls are lousy in bed if you are used to having P4P girls.So you will spend all that effort, all that time and end up with something not as good as you can "buy for 1500baht".But, it takes all sorts.
Guys like me, though fairly knowledgeable and experienced (I am no cherry boy. I have been to BKK at least a dozen times since '89 and cumulatively have spent around 60 days here) can never or almost never get to the graduate level because we don't live in LOS and do not speak the language. The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
...The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels.I've had several serious relationships with Thai women. They were not, however, beauties. On the other hand they were middle class educated women in professional jobs or business, not working in shopping malls, restaurants, or hotels. I think a relationship with those kinds of girls, particularly a beautiful one, will almost certainly cost you more than P4P.
Member #4698
12-16-09, 15:44
I've had several serious relationships with Thai women. They were not, however, beauties. On the other hand they were middle class educated women in professional jobs or business, not working in shopping malls, restaurants, or hotels. I think a relationship with those kinds of girls, particularly a beautiful one, will almost certainly cost you more than P4P.Two of my closest friends have had long term relationships with educated professional class Thai women so I kind of know what you are talking about. These girls treat their men well.
The real prize is getting it on with a regular gal.Don't feel offended but I am always amused by those stories of dudes who talk as if they are great heroes because they bonked some massage-gal.Satrai, I'm not offended in the least. Bragging about getting laid in BKK is ridiculous. If you can't get laid here something is seriously wrong with you. Still it is a hell of a lot of fun.There are way too many men living under the tyranny of the Vagina back in the Western world. 50 to 60 years of propaganda and brainwashing political correctness has ruined large numbers of western women. They look great. They fuck great. Then they spoil it by berating their men and trying to control them. Too bad. Escaping to Thailand, PI, Macau, and Sao Paulo once or twice a year helps keep my head on straight. Visiting BKK makes me a better lover back home in the USA.
NicFrenchy
12-17-09, 01:56
The true test is if you are able to have a relationship with a non p4p Thai girl. We all see these beauties working in shopping malls (department stores), restaurants and hotels. Sometimes if they smile at me and make eye contact; I will engage them in pleasant conversation. If that goes well I ask them out for a casual drink, but so far I have not been successful in getting them into my bed. I have had some great sexual adventures in LOS and have no complaints, but the real prize would be getting it on with a regular girl. Anyway, that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.Trust me, I have bedded more than a few of these "department stores, stores, sales" girls and they aren't necessarily better than the P4P ones. They do come with a lot of Drama attached to it. But I agree with you, I also much prefer non-P4P pussy :)
Member #3428
12-17-09, 02:14
But I agree with you, I also much prefer non-P4P pussy :)It's the chase / challenge / effort whatever you want to call it. I also like to try to get a P4P to show up after work, before work, or on call / demand for no charge :D
M P Lurker
12-17-09, 04:12
I think a relationship with those kinds of girls, particularly a beautiful one, will almost certainly cost you more than P4P.I agree. Unless GF has a very well paid job, she will often work out to be more expensive, per sex session, than P4P.So what's the point in a GF unless she provides for herself and family and doesn't require expensive presents?Unfortunately, most GFs I have had that were completely self-sufficient, were not so great in the bedroom department, or if they were great in bed, then they were of average looks.Guys who find a very inexpensive GF who is great on the bed and beautiful and sexy, are lucky!Clearly the competition to get these girls is very tough.
I agree. Unless GF has a very well paid job, she will often work out to be more expensive, per sex session, than P4P.So what's the point in a GF unless she provides for herself and family and doesn't require expensive presents?Unfortunately, most GFs I have had that were completely self-sufficient, were not so great in the bedroom department, or if they were great in bed, then they were of average looks.Guys who find a very inexpensive GF who is great on the bed and beautiful and sexy, are lucky!Clearly the competition to get these girls is very tough.There are millions of beautiful girls in Thailand. Ones that are not in the P4P trade. Just normal working girls, earning 12-15 k per month. They won't cost you 2000 baht a day for a two hour session and have been fucked by the whole world and its dog!If they are not great in the bedroom, then teach them! How do you think working girls learn?I have just left my wife and started a new life with a real stunning lady from the North. She is a Human Resource Manager, she has all the qualities one would love in a woman, as well as skills that suit my sexual needs.I don't feel I am unique in finding a normal Thai woman. I have friends that have found the ideal match. But then maybe it depends where you are looking for them?Take a look at Thailand, you might be surprised!
..Guys who find a very inexpensive GF who is great on the bed and beautiful and sexy, are lucky!...Finding one of this kind is not an impossible mission, but usually, you will have to marry her (which might become expensive in the long term anyway)... and you won't be allowed to (openly) be a "butterfly" anymore (or it might cost you your "dearer asset")! :D
NicFrenchy
12-17-09, 12:07
Finding one of this kind is not an impossible mission, but usually, you will have to marry her (which might become expensive in the long term anyway)... and you won't be allowed to (openly) be a "butterfly" anymore (or it might cost you your "dearer asset")! :DNot so true. I agree with Andy Abs, there are a lot of Thai girls, middle working class who would really relish the opportunity to be with a farang. Some are scared but interested, it's all about how you approach them.Money is really secondary because they want to have fun first. Goyave, no, you will not have to marry her, many girls not give their pussies away before marriage (a lot of them do so on the first date). However, MP lurker is correct about one thing, to bed a good thai lady, one would have to fork a little bit of cash in the begining.
Not so true. I agree with Andy Abs, there are a lot of Thai girls, middle working class who would really relish the opportunity to be with a farang. Some are scared but interested, it's all about how you approach them.Money is really secondary because they want to have fun first. Goyave, no, you will not have to marry her, many girls not give their pussies away before marriage (a lot of them do so on the first date). However, MP lurker is correct about one thing, to bed a good thai lady, one would have to fork a little bit of cash in the begining.I was mainly joking in my previous report, but it's true that most of the local good, young (19 to 25-year old) and beautiful non-P4P girls with a regular job and no kids who used to chase me when I was an available target in the single Farangs' market were real virgins (not kidding here!) and wanted to marry me! And those are no easy fucks: it's a real performance to get only a blow job from one of these girls (I failed more than once, and after several dates!). However, these girls will easily invite (along with several of their friends) several times a Farang at their own expenses (they are the ones who will fork some cash in the beginning, and they will be proud to do so).But I've also been with several other young Thai girls who are not working as prostitutes, but they are (at least in my eyes) more or less into P4P nonetheless, even if they are not directly requesting money. To summarize, I may say that I'd rather spend a few hours in a brothel than in a shopping mall with one of this other kind... and you certainly know what I mean. There is another kind of local girls and this kind certainly provides the easiest fucks outside the P4P market: girls who have been dumped by a Thai husband or boyfriend, and they are even easier targets when they have one or several children. But I'm not cynical enough to take advantage of those girls. Of course, YMMV, and the opportunities with "real" non-P4P girls might be more numerous in Bangkok than they are up country. Anyway, my own experience incites me to avoid the "real" (and "semi-real") non-P4P girls: much less drama with prostitutes for me.
...there are a lot of Thai girls, middle working class who would really relish the opportunity to be with a farang. ..Money is really secondary..Really? Why would they 'relish the opportunity to be with a farang'? Maybe if the farang is 25 years old and extremely handsome. But attractiveness and class status being equal, the vast majority will prefer a Thai man.
Member #3428
12-17-09, 21:00
Really? Why would they 'relish the opportunity to be with a farang'? Maybe if the farang is 25 years old and extremely handsome. But attractiveness and class status being equal, the vast majority will prefer a Thai man.Can not claim on the majority but I have a few girls 25 years old range that have been messed over by Thai guys (like farangs are any better :D ) that want a mature (35-45 year old) foreign guy that WORKS in Asia or is associated to asia (ie that knows about asian culture more then joe tourist). My university identical twins are masters students and are like this for example. Raised by a family of teachers, middle class, have cars, nice home, etc... They go out with thai friends (girls, guys, gays etc..) but they both refuse to enter relationship with thai guys. It took me a while to bed them and the one is now engaged to an American but the other one still sleeps over. She's even willing to travel from BKK to Pats to spend time with me. The parents are even happy she is in "relationship" with a "older" foreign "professional" guy. Quite a few ladies like this. Unfortunately, while the sex is very enjoyable it is more sensual and passionate but lacks the qty per day and she wants to be the ONLY girl in my life (which past history proves to be impossible for me to abide by).
M P Lurker
12-18-09, 02:56
I don't feel I am unique in finding a normal Thai woman. I have friends that have found the ideal match. But then maybe it depends where you are looking for them?Take a look at Thailand, you might be surprised!I have looked at Thailand for many years and have had normal Thai GFs (several). But as I said, the ones who cost me less than P4P were not expert in bed. Not enough experience. Others were more expensive than P4P.Its not easy to keep changing GFs till find a super fucker.Girls who don't do blow job often are probably not going to be expert. They often just do a token blow job and then complain jaw hurts.I prefer girls who are very experienced in the sex department. I am not going to worry about how many guys they got the experience from. That would be hypocritical!But seriosly the number of super looking, super cheap, super fuckers available to a 53 year old guy who doesn't live here asll the time is not a great percentage.I can get 2 out of the 3 criteria satisfied very easily. but getting all 3 is tough. I often berate myself for being so picky about looks.
Member #3428
12-18-09, 03:08
But seriosly the number of super looking, super cheap, super fuckers available to a 53 year old guy who doesn't live here asll the time is not a great percentage.I can get 2 out of the 3 criteria satisfied very easily. but getting all 3 is tough. I often berate myself for being so picky about looks.That's the fun of the chase... Half the fun is going out with each other and analyzing the talent and moving around looking for the top pick. But it's always best to have a back up girl no matter what she looks like as long as she is a top screw available for you. And when we were there last time you picked pretty damn quick (afraid I'd pick the girl maybe???) every time we were out together. Hell the one time I had not even sat down and you had already picked a girl and she met your requirements... I guess I"m just good luck for you :D
Have had some good luck with girls from Soi Cowboy recently. 5 out of 5 girls have been good and enthusiastic in bed. Girls came from Midnight, Baccara and Suzie Wong.I have more respect for some bar girls than for MP girls, as the better bar girls are able to knock back customers that don't appeal to them or don't offer enough money.The very pretty Baccara girl said she only goes with guys that are clean and respectful and give her a good viB. The reason is that most nights she has several guys vying for her. If the guy offers 3K for LT she is not interested, as she knows she will get two short times at 2K each very easily. So her LT fee is 4K minimum. She has a lot of regular customers too.I note many guys refuse to pay this much. The girl has every right to be not interested in the free market.Not all of the girls have this much control, but quite a few are not keen to go LT unless all conditions are right for them.
M P Lurker
12-18-09, 03:26
and when we were there last time you picked pretty damn quick (afraid i'd pick the girl maybe???) every time we were out together. hell the one time i had not even sat down and you had already picked a girl and she met your requirements... i guess i"m just good luck for you :dah, i do get lucky sometimes!its very rare for me to pick a girl so quickly. she turned out well. very nice body, face was at least a 7 out of 10, and was hot in the room. thought i was going to be raped in the bath! definitely a repeat girl. not suprisingly, she already has a bf.sometimes i have chosen a stand out girl (in my view) quickly for fear of someone else choosing her first and me being left with an ordinary selection. very selfish! ;) yesterday got a call from an ex-utopia girl, now supported by an old thai man. she must be bored and looking for some action, and remembering our hot sessions of the past (or maybe just my wishful thinking).
Went over to Aurora Massage on soi 22 the other day. Hadn't been there for a few years but they usually have some pretty attractive girls working there - much better looking than the skanks in the other MPs on this soi. Anyway I walked in and chose the lovely Fa - she's young, fit, and from Korat. She's got a kid but her body is still smokin'. Paid 300 baht for an oil massage. The rooms at this place are actually pretty decent. She showered me and then off we went. Unfortunately I only had about 1100 baht on me so I didn't think I could get anything "special". But she said I could have the body to body massage for 800. I said okay and she went to get changed. Came back with a towel on and she stripped - awesome body. She started giving me a B2B massage and then started a BBBJ as I fingered her shaved pussy. After a few minutes I whispered in her ear, "I want to fuck you". She said okay no problem - 800 was fine. Had an awesome fuck session with her - she can definitely fuck. Total damage was 800 + 300 (for massage).
Went over to Aurora Massage on soi 22 the other day. Hadn't been there for a few years but they usually have some pretty attractive girls working there - much better looking than the skanks in the other MPs on this soi. Anyway I walked in and chose the lovely Fa - she's young, fit, and from Korat. She's got a kid but her body is still smokin'. Paid 300 baht for an oil massage. The rooms at this place are actually pretty decent. She showered me and then off we went. Unfortunately I only had about 1100 baht on me so I didn't think I could get anything "special". But she said I could have the body to body massage for 800. I said okay and she went to get changed. Came back with a towel on and she stripped - awesome body. She started giving me a B2B massage and then started a BBBJ as I fingered her shaved pussy. After a few minutes I whispered in her ear, "I want to fuck you". She said okay no problem - 800 was fine. Had an awesome fuck session with her - she can definitely fuck. Total damage was 800 + 300 (for massage).Thanks for the info about the lady Fa at Aurora Massage. Her usual price is probably more than 800B. But it's nice to know she has a good heart, and she is good looking too. Perhaps your few minutes of fingering lady Fa during the massage made her such a good fuck. I found from my own experience that massaging the lady's pussy with a well-lubricated hand for a few minutes usually sets her up for a good fuck. This is a form of clitoro-labial masturbation for the lady that can actually bring her to orgasm if you do it well enough and long enough. But this is also a good way to arouse the lady to the point where she physically wants to fuck. Which makes her a great fuck. Even an experienced lady usually needs good foreplay from her guy to give him a good fuck. Because it's hard for her to get excited about fucking a stranger, when she does this every day several times a day. But if that stranger happens to masturbate her well to the point where she physically wants to fuck. Then excited about fucking him she certainly will be. And she can get excited like that several times a day, if need be. Because physical masturbation causes physical arousal every time.The only thing is that some ladies don't let guys masturbate them like that. Perhaps it's like kissing. They don't want to fall in love. They want to keep their psychological distance from the guy. But for me sex isn't real, unless I know the lady wants to fuck. And the only way I can know that is by masturbating the lady to the point where I can see with my own eyes that she is aroused, panting, and ready to fuck. And it's nice to know about lady Fa at Aurora Massage. She sounds like the kind of lady who will let her guy masturbate her every time. And she is good looking too. Which puts her on my list of ladies to do.
NicFrenchy
12-19-09, 08:06
They don't want to fall in love.So when they say they love me, you think they actually mean it? Wow, I mean, I always knew I was a good fuck, but not that good. I'll have to re-think my strategy and fuck them badly so as not to break their heart when I don't return to love them back. :D
Well done on being on topic and correct to the thread header.Looks like NicFrenchy and boyfriend Tansak KTV are missing the limelight and cannot chat as they do on the lodge thread, they have to start infecting other threads with pathetic comments and off topic crap.It would be nice if the moderator removed half the crap and sarcastic BS they post on threads thats off topic and just "give me some attention" type posts.
Went over to Aurora Massage on soi 22 the other day. Hadn't been there for a few years but they usually have some pretty attractive girls working there - much better looking than the skanks in the other MPs on this soi. Anyway I walked in and chose the lovely Fa - she's young, fit, and from Korat. She's got a kid but her body is still smokin'. Paid 300 baht for an oil massage. The rooms at this place are actually pretty decent. She showered me and then off we went. Unfortunately I only had about 1100 baht on me so I didn't think I could get anything "special". But she said I could have the body to body massage for 800. I said okay and she went to get changed. Came back with a towel on and she stripped - awesome body. She started giving me a B2B massage and then started a BBBJ as I fingered her shaved pussy. After a few minutes I whispered in her ear, "I want to fuck you". She said okay no problem - 800 was fine. Had an awesome fuck session with her - she can definitely fuck. Total damage was 800 + 300 (for massage).
Thanks for the info about the lady Fa at Aurora Massage. Her usual price is probably more than 800B.Her original price was 1500. She'll come down to 1000 if she likes you or needs the money.
Her original price was 1500. She'll come down to 1000 if she likes you or needs the money.The massage business probably isn't as good this year as it was in previous years. Fewer tourists are coming to Thailand now due to high unemployment in many countries. And for this reason many massage ladies probably are willing to accept lower prices and attract more customers their way this way.But I wouldn't bargain with a lady like that or try to lower her price. Because in Thailand P4P relationships most often aren't strictly business the way it is in the West. It's more like friend with benefits type of relationship. That's why P4P Thai ladies often give such a good GFE experience for their guys. But haggling with the lady about her price spoils that friend with benefits type of relationship and makes it strictly business. Which is a turn off for me.
So when they say they love me, you think they actually mean it? :DOf course they do! Don't you remember they also want you to reciprocate and ask you "do you love me long time?"
So when they say they love me, you think they actually mean it? Wow, I mean, I always knew I was a good fuck, but not that good. I'll have to re-think my strategy and fuck them badly so as not to break their heart when I don't return to love them back. :DTruly good sex involves some real chemistry and mutual passion between the lady and the guy. This isn't quite the same as falling in love. But it is half-way to falling in love. Because that's the kind of sex people in love normally have with each other. People in love genuinely and sincerely want to fuck each other. You can't have passionate sex the way people in love have sex and not feel some of the same feelings that people in love feel. It all comes down to whether the lady is there with you in both body and mind, or whether she is there only in body and her mind is elsewhere. A lady who lets you masturbate her with a well-lubricated hand or lick her pussy is a lady who is willing to be with you in both body and mind. Because her clitoris and her labia provide a direct nerve connection to her sexual feelings and passions in her brain and in her mind. And she can't help but feel some sexual desire for you, when you masturbate her like that. But a lady who won't let you masturbate her or lick her pussy is a lady who is willing to let you do what you will to please yourself. But she doesn't want to feel the way you feel. It's not much different from having sex with a plastic doll. Because it's only a physical union without any meeting of feelings and minds. It's like the lady lets you masturbate yourself using her body. Because she doesn't participate in her feelings with you.Perhaps this isn't so much about falling in love or not falling in love. But this is about how much the lady likes her work and how much of her heart she puts into it. Or in other words it's all about attitude. You can accurately judge the lady's attitude towards you by whether she lets you give her some genuine foreplay and masturbate her half-way to orgasm before having sex with her, or not.
Dextro Sol
12-20-09, 18:50
Truly good sex involves some real chemistry and mutual passion between the lady and the guy. This isn't quite the same as falling in love. But it is half-way to falling in love. Because that's the kind of sex people in love normally have with each other. People in love genuinely and sincerely want to fuck each other. You can't have passionate sex the way people in love have sex and not feel some of the same feelings that people in love feel. Great post!! Very accurate description...
NicFrenchy
12-21-09, 01:37
Looks like NicFrenchy and boyfriend Tansak KTV are missing the limelight and cannot chat as they do on the lodge thread, they have to start infecting other threads with pathetic comments and off topic crap.It would be nice if the moderator removed half the crap and sarcastic BS they post on threads thats off topic and just "give me some attention" type posts.Don't be jealous, the Pro, I love you too.
....... off topic and just "give me some attention" type posts.Sage thoughts, my friend. It is just a pity that half your posts fall into this category as well.
Got an update email from TMM with new profiles of girls at various soapies. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with any of these girls:La BelleD5 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001246Looks kinda tall and slim... interestingColonze86 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001241Something about her smile...UtopiaM15 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001250The dimples are getting to me.Looking at more of them. May edit to add some more to ask about.
NicFrenchy
12-22-09, 01:19
Got an update email from TMM with new profiles of girls at various soapies. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with any of these girls:La BelleD5 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001246Looks kinda tall and slim... interestingColonze86 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001241Something about her smile...UtopiaM15 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001250The dimples are getting to me.Looking at more of them. May edit to add some more to ask about.D5 @ La Belle: I would gladly fuck, and several times. She looks exactly my type.86 @ Colonze: thanks, but no thanksM15 @ Utopia: This girl looks 15. Not saying she is, but she looks like it.
Any suggestions on where I can get a legit 4 hands oil massage?
Any suggestions on where I can get a legit 4 hands oil massage?Levana spa on Soi 12. Walk past King & I, then Darling and then you'll arrive at Levana. Before 1PM I think they will give you breakfast as well.
Have had some good luck with girls from Soi Cowboy recently. 5 out of 5 girls have been good and enthusiastic in bed. Girls came from Midnight, Baccara and Suzie Wong.I have more respect for some bar girls than for MP girls, as the better bar girls are able to knock back customers that don't appeal to them or don't offer enough money.The very pretty Baccara girl said she only goes with guys that are clean and respectful and give her a good viB. The reason is that most nights she has several guys vying for her. If the guy offers 3K for LT she is not interested, as she knows she will get two short times at 2K each very easily. So her LT fee is 4K minimum. She has a lot of regular customers too.I note many guys refuse to pay this much. The girl has every right to be not interested in the free market.Not all of the girls have this much control, but quite a few are not keen to go LT unless all conditions are right for them.So let me get this straight. After spending a small fortune travelling a hellish distance half-way around the world; I am suppose to be happy that some third world prima-donna working girl (made that way by weak minded desperate punters) will then proceed to "knock me back" or demand 4000B for her golden laden pussy?WTF!
So let me get this straight. After spending a small fortune travelling a hellish distance half-way around the world; I am suppose to be happy that some third world prima-donna working girl (made that way by weak minded desperate punters) will then proceed to "knock me back" or demand 4000B for her golden laden pussy?WTF!Dear Monopoly,Your attitude fully qualifies you as one of those "weak minded desperate punters" who "spend.. a small fortune travelling a hellish distance half-way around the world" for some "golden laden pussy"I don't particularly like the phrase "male chauvinist pig", but it seems like it was invented just for you.Yours sincerely,Daddy San
Yep, you would have to be a complete cnut to pay 4K.But then, new mug punters are born everyday.
So let me get this straight. After spending a small fortune travelling a hellish distance half-way around the world; I am suppose to be happy that some third world prima-donna working girl (made that way by weak minded desperate punters) will then proceed to "knock me back" or demand 4000B for her golden laden pussy?WTF!
So let me get this straight. After spending a small fortune travelling a hellish distance half-way around the world; I am suppose to be happy that some third world prima-donna working girl (made that way by weak minded desperate punters) will then proceed to "knock me back" or demand 4000B for her golden laden pussy?WTF!Its a negotiation. If either party is not happy, no need to continue!I could get a cheaper girl easily on the street mate. I wanted the prettiest girl that lots of other guys also wanted. She was superb fun as well. I was prepared to pay more. My time is too valuable to waste it on ordinary girls.4K is incredibly cheap for the whole night with a dream girl (not just an average bar girl). Many tourists would pay that much for their Hotel room, but not me!Last week wanted to see the same girl but she had been booked for whole week by some guy and taken to Phuket. Yes she is good enough to be not bored with her for a whole week. The top girls are in demand and can get higher money easily!Anyway I am sure you can move on to Pataya and find some uglies really cheap, or better still move on to Cambodia where its even cheaper. In Nigeria or Tanzania you will probably get girls for less than 1 tenth of the price.Did you come to the right place, half way round the world?
M P Lurker
12-24-09, 07:24
Yep, you would have to be a complete cnut to pay 4K.But then, new mug punters are born everyday.You can always shop somewhere else.4K LT is probably the normal asking price for top busy girls in Baccara (a very busy bar) and some other bars. 2K is their ask for ST. Obviously girls with a shortage of customers will take less. Lots of Japanese customers there too.Its the same as model Naomi Campbell being far more expensive than other ordinary models.Have you ever observed several guys in a bar all wanting to take the same girl? You can see girls get BFed so fast its like lightning strike. Some guys get really pissed off when the girl gets stolen away by an opponent.
M P Lurker
12-24-09, 07:39
Got an update email from TMM with new profiles of girls at various soapies. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with any of these girls:La BelleD5 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001246Looks kinda tall and slim... interestingColonze86 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001241Something about her smile...UtopiaM15 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001250The dimples are getting to me.Looking at more of them. May edit to add some more to ask about.I glad we all have different tastes.The LaBelle girl is quite nice, but I prefer Jip (same venue).The 3rd girl is cute. Nic is worried her tits haven't grown yet. What about these that appeal to me:http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=000344http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001147http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=000047http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=000210http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001162I have only tried one to date, but some of the others have good star ratings and so I hope would be hot!I shouldn't publish my to do lists for fear of copycats :D
NicFrenchy
12-24-09, 09:33
nic is worried her tits haven't grown yet. it's not just the tits. yes, usually that is the only thing i look at :dbut that girl really looks ****.
Any suggestions on where I can get a legit 4 hands oil massage? nearly everywhere!
http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001162This one looks like the pick of the litter. Just gorgeous. Can imagine a 60 yo like me having premature ejaculation problems just seeing her naked in the room. Love your taste in women. Did not see Jib on the website. Now she's a really good looking lady.Slim
What about these that appeal to me:http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=000344http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001147http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=000047http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=000210http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001162 :DM P Lurker, you have a great taste in women but if you are who I think you are :-), I knew that already! :-)
NicFrenchy
12-24-09, 11:41
nearly everywhere!not really... in a lot of places, the girls will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) him :d
Dextro Sol
12-24-09, 12:05
This one looks like the pick of the litter. Just gorgeous. Can imagine a 60 yo like me having premature ejaculation problems just seeing her naked in the room. http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/hom...p?mod_id=001162Love your taste in women. Did not see Jib on the website. Now she's a really good looking lady.SlimExactly my taste too... I like that innocent face... reminds me of Run at SW... such a cutie...
M P Lurker
12-24-09, 12:29
Love your taste in women. Did not see Jib on the website. Now she's a really good looking lady.SlimThere are plenty of Jip pics in the Photo Gallery of course!She certainly turns heads in the street too!I like slim girls even though I'm not so slim myself anymore.Nothing a lot of sexercise wouldn't help cure ;)
Colonze86 - http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001241Something about her smile...In the 3rd picture down the smile is what I'm finding attractive.
This one looks like the pick of the litter. Just gorgeous. Can imagine a 60 yo like me having premature ejaculation problems just seeing her naked in the room. Love your taste in women. Did not see Jib on the website. Now she's a really good looking lady.SlimI'll echo Slim's comments. This girl was the only one that did it for me. I'm surprised as I reckoned our taste was more similar.
There are plenty of Jip pics in the Photo Gallery of course!Thanks for reminding us how great she looks. She lloks like she is taking very good care of herself.Slim
Richard 2008
12-26-09, 16:22
This is my first post in this forum. At first, I want to thank all masters on this board for your great contribution. The useful information you shared make me save a lot of time and money of course.Now, it is my responsibility to post what have just experienced in BKK.I just took a 3-day vacation in BKK. I went to 3 different soapies and some bars in Soi Cowboy. I will share some up to date information to your guys. Since I am still a newbie and not from a English speaking country, please forgive me if I cause some confusing and misleading.1st dayI arrived in BKK at 2PM. Quickly, I withdraw some cash in the ATM. After checking out the airport express bus, I believed getting a taxi to the hotel in Sukhumvit road is a better idea. Since the bus also cost 150B, the taxi cost around 250 plus toll charge. But taxi is faster. I was planing to catch a taxi on the arrive floor. Last time, I did it in the later evening. But now lots of polices there. The taxi drivers were afraid and refused to take me. So I went to the airport taxi service.There weren't many guests waiting for the taxi while the taxi drivers were waiting for business. The girl at the counter wrote down my destination on a note and gave it to me. Then I followed a driver to his car. Once in the taxi, the driver want to make a all-in price with me. I refused and insisted him on putting the meter down. He seemed not happy about it but did it anyway. Every time I left BKK to downtown, I found out the drivers all drove very fast, nearly 120km/h. When reached the highway toll charge counter, I gave the guy 1000B note in order to get some small changes. The toll charge cost me 70B totally. We met traffic jams on Ploen Chit road Where lots of cars makes left turn to Sukhumvit road. We waited almost a half hour at this point. Finally, we reached Soi 8 Sukhumvit road.The meter shows 280B, a bit expensive than I thought. I blamed it for the bad traffic.I planned to stay in Citidans on Soi 8. I used to stay in Citidans on Soi 11 once. The room are modern and staff are nice. Most important, it's girl friendly. The walk in rate for a studio room is 1900B net, not a good deal compare with Agoda. But I took it, since I felt tired at that time. After taking a shower in the room, I was eager to go to my favorite soapy, Nataree on Ratchadphisek road. The hotel is at the end of Soi 8, thank god they have the free Tuk-Tuk service to NaNa station. From There I walk 15 minutes to MRT Sukhumvit station. Headed to Huai Khwang Station, Took exit 4, Nataree was right there.It was around 5PM when I stepped into the places. There were many cute girls both one the sideline and inside the fish tank. I talked with the Papasan for a while. He told me the latest price. Sideline girls varied from 2200B t0 2400B. I didn't bother the girls inside the fish tank, because the sideline girl are much hooter. It took me a while to decided the girl as they were all beautiful in my eye. At last, I choose a girl from Ching Rai. She was very hot and polite. But she couldn't say a word of English, neither my own language. The price was 2600B.The room of Nataree is not good compare other places I went. The management hadn't decorated the place since my first visit 3 years ago. I bought the girl a drink. We talked with the body languages. I could speak a little Thai, not well, but enough to make the girl smile. She washed me in the tube patiently, dry me with the towel and gave me a massage. After that is the real deal. It really take a while for it. I was surprised as I was tired after the long flight. We laid on the bed, joked a while. All of a sudden, she hold my thing and massaged it. I was surprised because I 've never seen a massage girl offered second service as a volunteer. She smiled and put the rubber on. Oh, this really make me excite immediately.After the second round, we showered and put the clothes on. I planned to tip this lady well because of the nice service. But she seemed didn't know this thing. Before I say, She hold my hand and walked outside the room. I didn't understand and planed to put the tip into her bag. But some other girls and guests were in the elevator. She gave me a kiss goodbye and left without mentioned any tip. I wondered was it because I over paid at the counter, so she didn't need the tip? I left the place like a total cheap charlie.From Nataree, I went to Siam Paragon to get some food. I ate some delicious Thai food and caught the latest Movie Avatar. Cost me 200B for a 3D movie. The price is reasonable and the movie is awesome. I love it.The movie finished on 1am. I planned to check out spasso bar inside Hyatt Hotel. 10 minutes walk to there. Good news is no entrance fee From Sun to Thr. I took a beer and watch scene. The band there was great, really made the guests very high. Also, there were many good looking Thai girls hanging around. They all had the elegant dresses. I talked with some girls, they seemed not into me. Maybe because I looked broke and too young to have that money to paid them. So after the beer, I left. Took the taxi back to my hotel. God I was exhausted.2nd dayWake up around 10am, I took some food on the street vendor for my breakfast. The food is delicious and cheap. Then I went to the Central world. It was really a big mall having two department stores and many shops. I bought some on sale stuffs and finished my lunch.Watch the hot ladies inside the mall, I started to feel horny again. I missed the B-course in Cupity. The Cupity doesn't have a good reputation on this forum. But I always have a good time there. It is in the Entertainment Plaza on Petchburi road, not far from Central world. I took a taxi to Price hotel and walk to Cupity after the hotel. This would save me some money course the management would give kick back to the driver.When I walk in, there are nearly 50 girls on the sideline, and another 30 girls in the tank. I have to say that Cupity still had the most beautiful girls among the massage places I have ever seen. Even better than the Macau 18 Saunas. I sat down and ordered a drink. The papasan there was hard to negotiate, even I knew the price. After some bargain, I took a girl from sideline who was smile to me when I stepped in. That is a good sign. The price is 2600B. I thought the price is a little rip off, but I really want to enjoy the body slide.The room is better than Nataree. This girl I took is cute and friendly. Maybe she was not the most beautiful one, but I always choose the girl who smile to me. I don't want the starfish. The good thing for this girl is that she can speak English, so we talked a bit. She told me that the main customer of Cupity is East Asia people. Mainly from China, Japan and Korea. That's true, because in my view, most girls there have white skins and cute face, that was meet my standard.She washed me inside the tube and then give me a body slide on the inflatable mat. The girl used her body to massage you. You goona love it. Then we do the deal on the bed. Nice service. I enjoyed it.I gave the girl 500B for the tip. She looked happy about the amount.Then I caught a taxi back to Central world. During the traffic jam, I started to talk with the driver. He gold me a lot of information about Bangkok. Some bars and massage places. He mentioned some people from certain countries they didn't like. I myself did hear of some bad news about this people. He also told me his experience with some Russian hot girls in Rajai hotel in Soi 4. Cost him 2900B, he looked like very enjoy it and suggested me to try once. I though the price was only for one pop. But the price is ok.In central World, I have took some food and catch another movie 2012. I never got the chance to see it. After the movie, I went to Soi Cowboy via BTS. The Soi Cowboy is full of people. I checked out Spice girl and Shark, not many girl I like, Then I went to Talic. Once inside, My eyes were caught by the hot dancers on the central stage. I took a beer and watch the show. I found out the the all the hot girl in my view didn't have the tag. I asked the tender about it, she told me that the dancers were only dance there, they couldn't be barfined.That's disappointing, because these girls are very hot and their bodies were perfect. Even better than the Thai ladies in Spasso. So I just talked with other girls in the bar, but didn't find someone I liked. After 2am, the hot dancers left, and all the bars in Soi cowboy prepared to close. I walked back to the hotel. A lot of street venders had their open bars on the street. A cute girl grapped my arms and begged me for having a beer. She had a cute smile, so I agreed. Many girls hang around and asked me if they could go home with me. It was late that time, so I just finished the beer and go back to the hotel.3rd day.Got up around 11am, I went to the Siam Paragon for the final shopping. The X'mas sales are all over the mall, I found the price were good.After a quick lunch in the food inn, I planed to check out the Poseidon which have a long time reputation of a high end places. The Poseidon was also on Ratchadphisek road. I took MRT to Huai Kwang station and walked towards north. After 10 minutes walk, I realized that I should get off on Sulthisan station which is much near. Finally, I reached the 10 floors high building. I walked in and went to the second floor. There was a big fish tank there. The Papasan greeted me politely and told me about the price. The girls inside the tanks were divided into 3 groups 2000B, 2200B and 2500B. All for 2 hours services. I thought the price is reasonable and the girls were cute. But I also wanted to check the sideline girls upstairs. I asked the papasan if I could check out the sideline girls first?He said no problem and showed me the way to the elevator.3rd floor was a lounge, some guys were sitting there and drinking. By the time I arrived, there weren't many sideline girls there. Only 6 girls sat on the coach and they looked no difference between the girls inside the tank. The mamasan greeted me and ask if I wanted some drinks. I asked for a coke and talked with her about the deal. She told me that many hot girls would arrived after 6am. She also show me a album to check out how hot the girls were. I looked at the pictures of these girls, some pictures are the magazine cover, most girls were pretty. But I was afraid that these pictures are photoshoped, besides, the attitude of these girls seems bad. So I politely left and went back to the 2nd floor.The papasan was still there. I checked the girls in the tank, then I made up my mind. I told the papasan my choice, he called the girl out. But he may got confused by my poor description and asked for the wrong girl. When I noticed him that, he changed the girl immediately without saying a word. What a service.The girl I selected was taller than normal Thai girls, the face are pretty. The room of poseidon was slightly better than the last two places I went. The girl turned on the TV, it shows the fish tank downstairs. You can check the girls come and went. That's nice. This girl can speaks English fairly good. She told me a lot of funny story. I asked her about the Farang surcharge, which is 500B for the 2nd floor girl, 1000B for the 3rd floor sideline girl. She told me Thai girls thought that Farang got bigger Penis than Asia guys. I was curious about that for a long time and ask her about her opinion. She said some were big some were small. I asked what about mine? She laughed and told me now it was ok, but need more tip when get inside. That's funny.Then we took a bath in the tuB. She did body slide in the tube, that's nice. The left were the routines, but I have a good time. I gave her 500B for tip, she was happy.Left Poseidon, I went back to the hotel, packed my stuff because I had a early flight to catch. I planed to go to Soi cowboy after the shower, but I found out the English premier league was live on ESPN. Man you was on the show. So I just sat on the coach, ate some snack and watched how Man lost the game, until 12am. Sadly, it was better if I went to the bar.On next morning, I got up on around 6am. Checked out and asked the door man to find a taxi to BKK. This time only cost me 270 including the toll and take me 20 minutes to get the airport. There were a long queue in front of Thai airways' check-in counters. Lucky me to get to the airport early. I bought some stuffs in the duty free, then boarded my flight. Hope I could go back to BKK soon.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Dark rainy night here in Phuket, HDD browsing old stuff. Lots and lots of old stuff.OK, Nic said that this A24 girl "isn't as cute as her pic and her skin color is darker than on the picture", so you guys can all look, but he can't.Barko,Booked Jiap the other day. Yes its still possible on occasions.Her looks have changed, not for the better. Still very cute but now has added bolt-ons. I thought her original smallish breasts were superb.
Richard 2008
12-27-09, 05:23
This is my first post in this forum. At first, I want to thank all masters on this board for your great contribution. The useful information you shared make me save a lot of time and money of course.Now, it is my responsibility to post what have just experienced in BKK.I just took a 3-day vacation in BKK. I went to 3 different soapies and some bars in Soi Cowboy. I will share some up to date information to your guys. Since I am still a newbie and not from a English speaking country, please forgive me if I cause some confusing and misleading.1st dayI arrived in BKK at 2PM. Quickly, I withdraw some cash in the ATM. After checking out the airport express bus, I believed getting a taxi to the hotel in Sukhumvit road is a better idea. Since the bus also cost 150B, the taxi cost around 250 plus toll charge. But taxi is faster. I was planing to catch a taxi on the arrive floor. Last time, I did it in the later evening. But now lots of polices there. The taxi drivers were afraid and refused to take me. So I went to the airport taxi service.There weren't many guests waiting for the taxi while the taxi drivers were waiting for business. The girl at the counter wrote down my destination on a note and gave it to me. Then I followed a driver to his car. Once in the taxi, the driver want to make a all-in price with me. I refused and insisted him on putting the meter down. He seemed not happy about it but did it anyway. Every time I left BKK to downtown, I found out the drivers all drove very fast, nearly 120km/h. When reached the highway toll charge counter, I gave the guy 1000B note in order to get some small changes. The toll charge cost me 70B totally. We met traffic jams on Ploen Chit road Where lots of cars makes left turn to Sukhumvit road. We waited almost a half hour at this point. Finally, we reached Soi 8 Sukhumvit road.The meter shows 280B, a bit expensive than I thought. I blamed it for the bad traffic.I planned to stay in Citidans on Soi 8. I used to stay in Citidans on Soi 11 once. The room are modern and staff are nice. Most important, it's girl friendly. The walk in rate for a studio room is 1900B net, not a good deal compare with Agoda. But I took it, since I felt tired at that time. After taking a shower in the room, I was eager to go to my favorite soapy, Nataree on Ratchadphisek road. The hotel is at the end of Soi 8, thank god they have the free Tuk-Tuk service to NaNa station. From There I walk 15 minutes to MRT Sukhumvit station. Headed to Huai Khwang Station, Took exit 4, Nataree was right there.It was around 5PM when I stepped into the places. There were many cute girls both one the sideline and inside the fish tank. I talked with the Papasan for a while. He told me the latest price. Sideline girls varied from 2200B t0 2400B. I didn't bother the girls inside the fish tank, because the sideline girl are much hooter. It took me a while to decided the girl as they were all beautiful in my eye. At last, I choose a girl from Ching Rai. She was very hot and polite. But she couldn't say a word of English, neither my own language. The price was 2600B.The room of Nataree is not good compare other places I went. The management hadn't decorated the place since my first visit 3 years ago. I bought the girl a drink. We talked with the body languages. I could speak a little Thai, not well, but enough to make the girl smile. She washed me in the tube patiently, dry me with the towel and gave me a massage. After that is the real deal. It really take a while for it. I was surprised as I was tired after the long flight. We laid on the bed, joked a while. All of a sudden, she hold my thing and massaged it. I was surprised because I 've never seen a massage girl offered second service as a volunteer. She smiled and put the rubber on. Oh, this really make me excite immediately.After the second round, we showered and put the clothes on. I planned to tip this lady well because of the nice service. But she seemed didn't know this thing. Before I say, She hold my hand and walked outside the room. I didn't understand and planed to put the tip into her bag. But some other girls and guests were in the elevator. She gave me a kiss goodbye and left without mentioned any tip. I wondered was it because I over paid at the counter, so she didn't need the tip? I left the place like a total cheap charlie.From Nataree, I went to Siam Paragon to get some food. I ate some delicious Thai food and caught the latest Movie Avatar. Cost me 200B for a 3D movie. The price is reasonable and the movie is awesome. I love it.The movie finished on 1am. I planned to check out spasso bar inside Hyatt Hotel. 10 minutes walk to there. Good news is no entrance fee From Sun to Thr. I took a beer and watch scene. The band there was great, really made the guests very high. Also, there were many good looking Thai girls hanging around. They all had the elegant dresses. I talked with some girls, they seemed not into me. Maybe because I looked broke and too young to have that money to paid them. So after the beer, I left. Took the taxi back to my hotel. God I was exhausted.2nd dayWake up around 10am, I took some food on the street vendor for my breakfast. The food is delicious and cheap. Then I went to the Central world. It was really a big mall having two department stores and many shops. I bought some on sale stuffs and finished my lunch.Watch the hot ladies inside the mall, I started to feel horny again. I missed the B-course in Cupity. The Cupity doesn't have a good reputation on this forum. But I always have a good time there. It is in the Entertainment Plaza on Petchburi road, not far from Central world. I took a taxi to Price hotel and walk to Cupity after the hotel. This would save me some money course the management would give kick back to the driver.When I walk in, there are nearly 50 girls on the sideline, and another 30 girls in the tank. I have to say that Cupity still had the most beautiful girls among the massage places I have ever seen. Even better than the Macau 18 Saunas. I sat down and ordered a drink. The papasan there was hard to negotiate, even I knew the price. After some bargain, I took a girl from sideline who was smile to me when I stepped in. That is a good sign. The price is 2600B. I thought the price is a little rip off, but I really want to enjoy the body slide.The room is better than Nataree. This girl I took is cute and friendly. Maybe she was not the most beautiful one, but I always choose the girl who smile to me. I don't want the starfish. The good thing for this girl is that she can speak English, so we talked a bit. She told me that the main customer of Cupity is East Asia people. Mainly from China, Japan and Korea. That's true, because in my view, most girls there have white skins and cute face, that was meet my standard.She washed me inside the tube and then give me a body slide on the inflatable mat. The girl used her body to massage you. You goona love it. Then we do the deal on the bed. Nice service. I enjoyed it.I gave the girl 500B for the tip. She looked happy about the amount.Then I caught a taxi back to Central world. During the traffic jam, I started to talk with the driver. He gold me a lot of information about Bangkok. Some bars and massage places. He mentioned some people from certain countries they didn't like. I myself did hear of some bad news about this people. He also told me his experience with some Russian hot girls in Rajai hotel in Soi 4. Cost him 2900B, he looked like very enjoy it and suggested me to try once. I though the price was only for one pop. But the price is ok.In central World, I have took some food and catch another movie 2012. I never got the chance to see it. After the movie, I went to Soi Cowboy via BTS. The Soi Cowboy is full of people. I checked out Spice girl and Shark, not many girl I like, Then I went to Talic. Once inside, My eyes were caught by the hot dancers on the central stage. I took a beer and watch the show. I found out the the all the hot girl in my view didn't have the tag. I asked the tender about it, she told me that the dancers were only dance there, they couldn't be barfined.That's disappointing, because these girls are very hot and their bodies were perfect. Even better than the Thai ladies in Spasso. So I just talked with other girls in the bar, but didn't find someone I liked. After 2am, the hot dancers left, and all the bars in Soi cowboy prepared to close. I walked back to the hotel. A lot of street venders had their open bars on the street. A cute girl grapped my arms and begged me for having a beer. She had a cute smile, so I agreed. Many girls hang around and asked me if they could go home with me. It was late that time, so I just finished the beer and go back to the hotel.3rd day.Got up around 11am, I went to the Siam Paragon for the final shopping. The X'mas sales are all over the mall, I found the price were good.After a quick lunch in the food inn, I planed to check out the Poseidon which have a long time reputation of a high end places. The Poseidon was also on Ratchadphisek road. I took MRT to Huai Kwang station and walked towards north. After 10 minutes walk, I realized that I should get off on Sulthisan station which is much near. Finally, I reached the 10 floors high building. I walked in and went to the second floor. There was a big fish tank there. The Papasan greeted me politely and told me about the price. The girls inside the tanks were divided into 3 groups 2000B, 2200B and 2500B. All for 2 hours services. I thought the price is reasonable and the girls were cute. But I also wanted to check the sideline girls upstairs. I asked the papasan if I could check out the sideline girls first?He said no problem and showed me the way to the elevator.3rd floor was a lounge, some guys were sitting there and drinking. By the time I arrived, there weren't many sideline girls there. Only 6 girls sat on the coach and they looked no difference between the girls inside the tank. The mamasan greeted me and ask if I wanted some drinks. I asked for a coke and talked with her about the deal. She told me that many hot girls would arrived after 6am. She also show me a album to check out how hot the girls were. I looked at the pictures of these girls, some pictures are the magazine cover, most girls were pretty. But I was afraid that these pictures are photoshoped, besides, the attitude of these girls seems bad. So I politely left and went back to the 2nd floor.The papasan was still there. I checked the girls in the tank, then I made up my mind. I told the papasan my choice, he called the girl out. But he may got confused by my poor description and asked for the wrong girl. When I noticed him that, he changed the girl immediately without saying a word. What a service.The girl I selected was taller than normal Thai girls, the face are pretty. The room of poseidon was slightly better than the last two places I went. The girl turned on the TV, it shows the fish tank downstairs. You can check the girls come and went. That's nice. This girl can speaks English fairly good. She told me a lot of funny story. I asked her about the Farang surcharge, which is 500B for the 2nd floor girl, 1000B for the 3rd floor sideline girl. She told me Thai girls thought that Farang got bigger Penis than Asia guys. I was curious about that for a long time and ask her about her opinion. She said some were big some were small. I asked what about mine? She laughed and told me now it was ok, but need more tip when get inside. That's funny.Then we took a bath in the tuB. She did body slide in the tube, that's nice. The left were the routines, but I have a good time. I gave her 500B for tip, she was happy.Left Poseidon, I went back to the hotel, packed my stuff because I had a early flight to catch. I planed to go to Soi cowboy after the shower, but I found out the English premier league was live on ESPN. Man you was on the show. So I just sat on the coach, ate some snack and watched how Man lost the game, until 12am. Sadly, it was better if I went to the bar.On next morning, I got up on around 6am. Checked out and asked the door man to find a taxi to BKK. This time only cost me 270 including the toll and take me 20 minutes to get the airport. There were a long queue in front of Thai airways' check-in counters. Lucky me to get to the airport early. I bought some stuffs in the duty free, then boarded my flight. Hope I could go back to BKK soon.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
What would be the best time to show up at most MP? I know that if you show up around 1pm might be too early for some places and after 10pm would be too late and some girls might be too tired. So what would be the best time to show up? Would 2-4pm be a good time where the girls just showed up?
What would be the best time to show up at most MP? I know that if you show up around 1pm might be too early for some places and after 10pm would be too late and some girls might be too tired. So what would be the best time to show up? Would 2-4pm be a good time where the girls just showed up?Usually in MP the 2nd shift starts at 4pm, so if you want the biggest choice I think you better show up about that time.
Usually in MP the 2nd shift starts at 4pm, so if you want the biggest choice I think you better show up about that time.Thanks, so around 4-5pm would be a good choice?The other question I have is that from what I read here on the forum, most of the guys do not get a massage so why do most choose the oil massage instead of the cheaper Thai massage? It just that I had oil massage before and it is very tough getting the oil off my body. Does the girls have something that will wash off the oil easily?
Member #3428
12-28-09, 03:35
Thanks, so around 4-5pm would be a good choice?Really depends on what type of massage you are talking about... if you are going to a soapy then yeah I agree 4-5 is a good time but 3 you can get lucky sometimes; however if you are going to tulip or snow white or such you could be the girls third customer of the day at that point. I personally don't like sloppy seconds, sometimes the girls are tired and have had it rammed up their arse two times already etc... so I like to know who I want and go early so I'm first in line (that day). For some girls I get to know their start time and such and arrange to be their first customers of the day. Depending when you go and what location your chances of being 2nd, 3rd or first varies. Most soapies I will say I am usually their first customer of the day later on in the day, but you don't really get to talk to them as they are in fish bowls. For MP's if you go later at night you could end up being just a link in a chain for that day. Some girls at some establishments do NOT get into work until later, noon, 2, 4, etc... Some girls do have various hours especially side liners. That is totally hit and miss unless you pre arrange meeting time. And if you're doing that with a side liner you mind as well arrange it at your room not at work.
I was planing to catch a taxi on the arrive floor. Last time, I did it in the later evening. But now lots of polices there. The taxi drivers were afraid and refused to take me.So far I've always been lucky. I do see more traffic cones, less place for the taxis to stop, but I've never had a problem getting into a taxi just as the previous passenger(s) were leaving.
So I went to the airport taxi service.So in the end you paid 280 + 70 toll + 50 surcharge, which makes it 400 vs 150. The bus sits in the same traffic as the taxi. For me it's mainly the wait for the bus to leave that's irritating.
She gave me a kiss goodbye and left without mentioned any tip.I think I've never had a Nataree girl expecting a tip, but I have given tips for very good service. Not for just going through the motions.
After a quick lunch in the food inn, I planed to check out the Poseidon which have a long time reputation of a high end places. The Poseidon was also on Ratchadphisek road. I took MRT to Huai Kwang station and walked towards north. After 10 minutes walk, I realized that I should get off on Sulthisan station which is much near.Honestly, even from Sutthisan it's a hot boring walk (though you'll pass Pasaya fashion massage and one or two other places). Ratchada must be one of the least interesting roads to walk in Bangkok. A motocy from Huai Kwang would probably be worthwhile. By the way, just after the temple on the corner to the north of Huai Kwang, there's a little "kapoo" massage place called Pretty Lover I think. Pretend massage and HJ for 1000 baht, very cute girls. Nice for a change. Thanks for the detailed report, always interesting.
Friar Tuck
12-28-09, 10:12
Thanks, so around 4-5pm would be a good choice?The other question I have is that from what I read here on the forum, most of the guys do not get a massage so why do most choose the oil massage instead of the cheaper Thai massage? It just that I had oil massage before and it is very tough getting the oil off my body. Does the girls have something that will wash off the oil easily?Howdy,while it is a little more expensive, and, many places don't offer it, a lotion massage provides the same feel as oil, but washes off in the shower quite easily. Especially with a little help. :-)Much better for fur bearers like myself!Tuck
Member #4285
12-28-09, 14:16
Akane? I dont know if it's right spelled but its on Soi 33. After a lunch at LL one of the guys (Nic) showed me the place. I went in, and of course I picked the only girl that was not smiling or even looked at me :DBut most because she was very good looking and she had just finished with a guy that left with a big smile. When I picked her all the rest of the girls looked mad. Maybe she tried to look as unattractive as possible to give the rest of the girls a chance, or she just did not like me. After I picked her she smile and were very friendly.Anyway, I tooke the SP3 and thats 60 min with the girl you choose and when 30 minutes is left a second girl arrive. Of course they send up the girl I found less attractive (IMO) in the lineup.DFK, DATY, BBBJ and HJ from the first girl and we having fun (at least me) and then the second girl arrives. Not finnished my first shot yet so I send her out and ask her to come back in 10 minutes. More BBBJ and HJ and I shot. Then she arrives and tries to give me a second shot with BBBJ and HJ when I playing with the first girl. But the second girl dont make me horny and even moans when she gives me HJ. I ask, you coming too? :)No, I did not came more then one time and only with the girl I choose. If you want 2 girls, choose them directly from the start but then the price goes up too, but you have them for 90 minutes. The "suprise girl thing" did not work out for me.I think I will return for the girl I choosed, maybe.
Richard 2008
12-28-09, 16:40
Dear RocksoffThanks for your comments, I really learn a lot.I took the AE once, if my memory serves well, it was the AE3. It didn't go via the high way but the long Sukhumvit road. I met a big traffic jam at that time. Cost me nearly one hour and a half. So this time I took Taxi instead. If I got the taxi in your way, it would cost me less.For the Nataree part, It was my fault. I was always tipping the girl well. I can't remember what I was thinking then. I act like a jerk. I believe that I can't go to Nataree for a long time.If the girl recognize me, she will notice her friends I am a bad person.Thanks again for sharing more information. I will check them out next time in BKK.Have a nice day and enjoy season's greeting.
So far I've always been lucky. I do see more traffic cones, less place for the taxis to stop, but I've never had a problem getting into a taxi just as the previous passenger(s) were leaving.So in the end you paid 280 + 70 toll + 50 surcharge, which makes it 400 vs 150. The bus sits in the same traffic as the taxi. For me it's mainly the wait for the bus to leave that's irritating.I think I've never had a Nataree girl expecting a tip, but I have given tips for very good service. Not for just going through the motions.Honestly, even from Sutthisan it's a hot boring walk (though you'll pass Pasaya fashion massage and one or two other places). Ratchada must be one of the least interesting roads to walk in Bangkok. A motocy from Huai Kwang would probably be worthwhile.By the way, just after the temple on the corner to the north of Huai Kwang, there's a little "kapoo" massage place called Pretty Lover I think. Pretend massage and HJ for 1000 baht, very cute girls. Nice for a change.Thanks for the detailed report, always interesting.
Isg Not Msg
12-29-09, 07:04
In Bangkok my first stop after checking into the ever comfortable Livingstone?s was Akane?s (33). The ?snow? was cute but I still have some in my shoes. The joint was pretty busy but no need to wait. The lineup presented a few choice picks and I chose the prettiest smile (Karen) ? a choice well worth repeating. Chose the 50-minute fashion massage, plenty of time to get what I came for. She was great, plenty of oil, bbbj and HTUMA. I?m not a big fan of the second joiner towards the end but she did mention that her younger sister works there also. That may be enough to make me reconsider my second joiner policy on my next visit.Could have saved 100B had I reserved online.
M P Lurker
12-29-09, 09:24
Watch the hot ladies inside the mall, I started to feel horny again. I missed the B-course in Cupity. The Cupity doesn't have a good reputation on this forum. But I always have a good time there. It is in the Entertainment Plaza on Petchburi road, not far from Central world. I took a taxi to Price hotel and walk to Cupity after the hotel. This would save me some money course the management would give kick back to the driver.When I walk in, there are nearly 50 girls on the sideline, and another 30 girls in the tank. I have to say that Cupity still had the most beautiful girls among the massage places I have ever seen. Even better than the Macau 18 Saunas. I sat down and ordered a drink. The papasan there was hard to negotiate, even I knew the price. After some bargain, I took a girl from sideline who was smile to me when I stepped in. That is a good sign. The price is 2600B. I thought the price is a little rip off, but I really want to enjoy the body slide.Thankfully we don't all have the same taste and Cupidy girls probably appeal more to Asians.To me they mostly look Chinese with round faces and many slightly pudgy which don't appeal to me. Fake noses and Silicone also don't appeal to me. O.K. I must admit its a while since I was last there.But what puts many guys off is the rip-off style of the papasans to Farangs, the frantic waving and winking of the girls as if to say "I'm sure you must be here for me!"The level of acting up by the girls is a huge turn off to me but some guys probably like it or they wouldn't bother.Its very hard to sit quietly contemplating whether any girls appeal while getting extreme levels of hassling by the papasan. Maybe I exaggerate, but I have felt very uncomfortable in there, which doesn't happen at other places.
M P Lurker
12-29-09, 09:32
For the Nataree part, It was my fault. I was always tipping the girl well. I can't remember what I was thinking then. I act like a jerk. I believe that I can't go to Nataree for a long time.If the girl recognize me, she will notice her friends I am a bad person.Of course you can go to Nataree. If you meant to tip her, you can do it up front next time you take her and explain you forgot to. I'm sure she will be happy with that! :DJust say "Last time I go with you, I forgot to tip. Here!"But tipping is not expected as mandatory at places with an all in price. However she probably deserved something for the great performance!
Coriolanus
12-29-09, 10:15
Hi all,Just back from a trip to Bangkok with family. In my limited spare time, I managed to fit in visits to three of the establishments mentioned in this forum, plus a new one that I happened to enter by mistake ? and enjoyed anyway.Annie'sThat was my first night out in Bangkok, and I wanted to check out the famous Annie's. I was greeted by someone I take to be Aye herself, who explained that there were girls at two price ranges, 2,500 baht or 1,700 baht, separated in two different areas across the glass. Yet, although there were quite a few girls (some 20, I reckon), the selection was pretty lame. I decided for one from the 2,500 baht group, paid in advance and was led to a room. The room was rather ugly and poorly lit. The routine includes a bath and the bathtub area felt dirty ? I can put up with all that, no problem, but I guess it wouldn't be too hard to give the place a better look. Of the four places I visited during this trip, Annie's had by far the dirtiest look.The girl was a bit less attractive than I first though (again, part of the lighting issue of Annie's), but was willing to please. Service included two pops, with BBBJ, AR, and CIM. No anal, but she took a finger up her ass with no complains. No tip was asked, but I left her 300 baht anyway. Somehow I felt that this girl gets only a small share of what I have paid upfront.Love TeenThis place is in Soi 33, on the left side as you walk on Soi 33 from Sukhumvit Road. I was actually looking for one of the Teen Massage places discussed elsewhere in this forum, and ended up mistaking this place for one of them. I don't know if it has been reviewed before. As it happens, it was a great find.I came in by 11pm, saw a number of girls waiting outside, chatting. At the desk, I was told that the room for a two-girl massage, at 1,000 baht, was larger and more comfortable. I chose two ladies from the photo book (sorry, I don't remember the names), who promptly came out of the group chatting at the front door and led me to a room downstairs. It was indeed a nice room, with a large bathtub and some country decorations that made it look a bit like a mountain cabin. The girls were very attentive and fun, and soon after we arranged the price (1,500 for each girl for full service) I was given a bath and a quick massage (because I was in a hurry to get to the best part). Service was unhurried and sexy, with the girls willing to do a lot ? BBBJ, some AR, sex in different positions. I'm pretty sure CIM was available at an extra price. No anal, though.Overall, a great two-hour experience for 4,000 baht (1,500 baht for each girl plus 1, 000 for the nice room).In part 2, I will report on other two places: Teen 3 and Eden Club.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Coriolanus
12-29-09, 10:17
This is the second part of my report on BKK massage parlours, visited last week.Teen Massage 3Now, this is the place I had read about and wanted to check out. I know that many mongers out there don?t fancy the massage scene, preferring to choose a girl from one of the many nightspots in Bangkok. But that?s not really an option for guys with limited time (and on holiday with family), for whom the massage places come in handy. Teen 3 is on Soi 33, right side if walking from Sukhumvit Road, a little further down after Love Teen, described in part 1. At the front desk, you are shown the massage options and the photo book. I chose the cheapest massage, for 600 baht, one and a half hour. The selection of girls was much better than anywhere else, with cuties that were either very young or very good at looking the part. I made my choice and was taken to a small room with no bed, just a mattress on the floor, a tiny shower and a ceiling mirror. The place was real small, but clean. My girl arrived a little later, even prettier than in the pictures. Very cute, nice attitude, perfect curvy body. We arranged for ?special massage? at 1,500 baht and proceed to undress and shower. I asked to go straight to the sex part and maybe a get a massage later. Service was real nice, the only GFE I had in Bangkok. In the shower, she offered me Listerine mouthwash, which, as I realized, is a good indication that DFK is included. I don?t usually enjoy kissing a WG, but I had to make an exception in this case. After sex, we still had time for a very good massage ? her tiny hands were impressively strong. She never asked, but I left her a 300 baht tip.Altogether, 2,400 baht for my only GFE in BKK. Eden ClubThis place is in Soi 7/1. For those that don?t know (like me), let me explain that ?7/1? means that it is not on Soi 7, but on Soi 7 and a half, the next small Soi off Sukhumvit Road. It is a little down Soi 7/1 on the right side, as you walk from Sukhumvit Road. I arrived at about 11pm, and saw all ladies hanging out at the front door. At the bar area, the mamasan explained the works while the girls were taking their positions. There was a yellow line dividing the opposite wall of the bar in two areas. To the left were the ladies that did anal; to the right, the ladies that did not. The Eden Club has a two-girl combo policy. You are always supposed to choose two girls, not only one. I chose two girls from the left side of the yellow line, and was quoted 3,200 baht. I did not ask if the girls that don?t do anal were cheaper. Girls at the Eden Club had the most bordello look and attitude of the four places I visited. They dressed in skimpy clothes, high heels and heavy make-up. Selection was not that great, and while choosing I noticed they had a tendency to try and present themselves to you in pairs (usually a better looking one next to a less attractive one), since you were supposed to choose two girls anyway. After making my choice, my two girls and me took an elevator to another level were the rooms were located. The room was large, well lit and clean. Service was good, but nothing outstanding. After Bangkok, I spent a few days in Koh Samui. Will soon report on what little I could explore of the island.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Akane? I dont know if it's right spelled but its on Soi 33. After a lunch at LL one of the guys (Nic) showed me the place. I went in, and of course I picked the only girl that was not smiling or even looked at me :DGood to meet you at LL that day. Thanks for the report! I think we both screwed up our first trips to Akane. I haven't been back yet. Too bad you didn't make it to La Belle with us. Thinking about another Soapy excursion tomorrow.
Richard 2008
12-29-09, 16:36
Dear M P lurker.Thanks for your insights.For the girls? part, I admit that they look appeal to me, maybe because of the light and make up. I can?t speak on behalf of my country man, but every time I was there, there were some guys from my homeland. Even the papasan can speak our language. The girl also mentioned people from our country are the main customers recently.I myself also believe Cupidy is a rip-off place. To tell you the truth, on my first travel to BKK three years ago, I was taken to Cupidy. Off course by the Tuk-Tuk driver. When I walked in, I was like a little kid in the candy store. Because I never got the chance to see such a big amount of girls sitting there and waiting for your selection. Needless to say, the papasan quoted the freaking high rate 3500B to me for the sideline girl and refused to bargain. I was pissed of and left.. Lucky me.Then I found this great forum and start to understand the real price. So for the next few times. I could have the normal rate from 2300B to 2500B for a sideline girl. But I never got the price which told by the masters here. In my opinion, it depends on which papasan you were dealing with and your bargain skill.. Besides, I can?t travel to Thailand often, so sometimes, I just pay the little rip-off rate in order to keep my mood. So far as I know Cupidy is the only massage place where provides B-course. I hope before my next time to BKK, I can find out a better choice from this forum.Thanks again. Have a nice day.
Thankfully we don't all have the same taste and Cupidy girls probably appeal more to Asians.To me they mostly look Chinese with round faces and many slightly pudgy which don't appeal to me. Fake noses and Silicone also don't appeal to me. O.K. I must admit its a while since I was last there.But what puts many guys off is the rip-off style of the papasans to Farangs, the frantic waving and winking of the girls as if to say "I'm sure you must be here for me!"The level of acting up by the girls is a huge turn off to me but some guys probably like it or they wouldn't bother.Its very hard to sit quietly contemplating whether any girls appeal while getting extreme levels of hassling by the papasan. Maybe I exaggerate, but I have felt very uncomfortable in there, which doesn't happen at other places.
Richard 2008
12-29-09, 16:40
Like I said below, I can't go to Thailand often. I hope next time I go to Nataree, this nice lady is still there. Then I will follow your lead. Thanks.
Of course you can go to Nataree. If you meant to tip her, you can do it up front next time you take her and explain you forgot to. I'm sure she will be happy with that! :DJust say "Last time I go with you, I forgot to tip. Here!"But tipping is not expected as mandatory at places with an all in price. However she probably deserved something for the great performance!
M P Lurker
12-30-09, 01:44
Like I said below, I can't go to Thailand often. I hope next time I go to Nataree, this nice lady is still there. Then I will follow your lead. Thanks.O.K. I misunderstood.
NicFrenchy
12-30-09, 07:04
Akane? I dont know if it's right spelled but its on Soi 33. After a lunch at LL one of the guys (Nic) showed me the place. I went in, and of course I picked the only girl that was not smiling or even looked at me :DBut most because she was very good looking and she had just finished with a guy that left with a big smile. When I picked her all the rest of the girls looked mad. Maybe she tried to look as unattractive as possible to give the rest of the girls a chance, or she just did not like me. After I picked her she smile and were very friendly.Anyway, I tooke the SP3 and thats 60 min with the girl you choose and when 30 minutes is left a second girl arrive. Of course they send up the girl I found less attractive (IMO) in the lineup.DFK, DATY, BBBJ and HJ from the first girl and we having fun (at least me) and then the second girl arrives. Not finnished my first shot yet so I send her out and ask her to come back in 10 minutes. More BBBJ and HJ and I shot. Then she arrives and tries to give me a second shot with BBBJ and HJ when I playing with the first girl. But the second girl dont make me horny and even moans when she gives me HJ. I ask, you coming too? :)No, I did not came more then one time and only with the girl I choose. If you want 2 girls, choose them directly from the start but then the price goes up too, but you have them for 90 minutes. The "suprise girl thing" did not work out for me.I think I will return for the girl I choosed, maybe.Yes, the "surprise Girls" isn't always the cutest of the bunch but generally they can give very good Blowjobs.Akane is a real fun change of pace and maybe next time you need to try the S3 session (without the joiner girl). And by the way... you can't choose the second girl for the S3P, but you can get a V session (2 girls right from the start).
NicFrenchy
12-30-09, 07:15
Akane? I dont know if it's right spelled but its on Soi 33. After a lunch at LL one of the guys (Nic) showed me the place. I went in, and of course I picked the only girl that was not smiling or even looked at me :DBut most because she was very good looking and she had just finished with a guy that left with a big smile. When I picked her all the rest of the girls looked mad. Maybe she tried to look as unattractive as possible to give the rest of the girls a chance, or she just did not like me. After I picked her she smile and were very friendly.Anyway, I tooke the SP3 and thats 60 min with the girl you choose and when 30 minutes is left a second girl arrive. Of course they send up the girl I found less attractive (IMO) in the lineup.DFK, DATY, BBBJ and HJ from the first girl and we having fun (at least me) and then the second girl arrives. Not finnished my first shot yet so I send her out and ask her to come back in 10 minutes. More BBBJ and HJ and I shot. Then she arrives and tries to give me a second shot with BBBJ and HJ when I playing with the first girl. But the second girl dont make me horny and even moans when she gives me HJ. I ask, you coming too? :)No, I did not came more then one time and only with the girl I choose. If you want 2 girls, choose them directly from the start but then the price goes up too, but you have them for 90 minutes. The "suprise girl thing" did not work out for me.I think I will return for the girl I choosed, maybe.Yes, the "surprise Girls" isn't always the cutest of the bunch but generally they can give very good Blowjobs.Akane is a real fun change of pace and maybe next time you need to try the S3 session (without the joiner girl). And by the way... you can't choose the second girl for the S3P, but you can get a V session (2 girls right from the start).
Traveller China
12-30-09, 16:19
following the writing about akane, and the link provided from nic, i really had no choice but to try!so after a long flight, early arrival and almost the whole day in the office, off to akane off sukhumvit soi 33 i went. not the easiest place to find, seeing as it is hidden away inside what seems to be a car-park surrounded by massage establishments (and what an idea. talk about businesses with synergies!). as i approached akane, one of the girls opened the door for me and soon i was seated sipping a cold drink and spending a gooooood 2 seconds making up my mind.a friend of mine in china lives by the motto that everything in life needs to be tried at least once, with the exception of man-on-man action. it is a motto which adds spice to life, that much can at least be said. so in that spirit i had landed on option v3. not a secret doomsday weapon from a bunker underneath berlin, that would be far too sinister an interpretation. no, think of v3 as a rocket with two hot engines going in parallell and this rocket has but one purpose in life: to give you pleasure! so i picked rika and ryoko in student uniforms and off we went.in spite of the careful write-ups from other members, i still felt like an utter newbie. fortunately, rika took it upon herself to deliver a total gfe with lots of friendly teasing and she loved it when it was reciprocated. ryoko headed off to the bathroom to get the bathtub filled and herself washed off.so for newbies, this is how it proceeded for me: first i got a towelled massage while waiting for the tub to fill up. i never mind a massage, and this was ok. once the tub looked like overflowing, we moved in there. ryoko kneeling in one end, me with one leg up on the wall on each side of her and rika becoming a human mattress behind me. ryoko proceeded to wash every square nanometer of my hide, thoroughly, while rika and i engaged in some rather passionate dfk. and i always appreciate it when the girls taste of mouthwash.soon ryoko was focusing on the guest of honour, with bbbj, tit-rubbing and plenty of licking around. i was fingering rika at the time, and she was heating up in every sense of the word.we proceeded to the bed, where ryoko continued her expert ministrations while rika and i played long-lost lovers. soon rika had turned 180 degrees and we both started eating. i had two mouths on my favourite soldier. some heaty sounds had started emanating from rika. ryoko got adventurous and suddenly discovered that she had a playful finger, which was prodding and stroking rather than penetrating. and in the middle of all this, me. we were supremely unhurried, and we took our time building this slowly. it took longer than expected, maybe due to some earlier same-day emergency relief at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)?:.dbut like spring following winter, juices started bubbling and dams started breaching. dambreach is in fact more accurate than juice bubbling, from a volume point of view. poor ryoko hoovered it all up like a trooper, without stop.this was followed by lowered lights, and the sensation of two naked women massaging and caressing me to sleep.verdict: akane is on the side of mainstream p4p in bangkok. the girls i enjoyed as companions were well trained and delivered. looks we can discuss until the pacific dries out, but these two worked for me. i will keep akane as an option when i want a break from the more humdrum issues.thanks to all who have posted and shared, in order for me to get my butt to akane for the first time.editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
NicFrenchy
12-31-09, 04:33
thanks to all who have posted and shared, in order for me to get my butt to akane for the first time.excellent review, glad you found your way to akane (or should i say peep in, since you took the vip course).
Howdy,while it is a little more expensive, and, many places don't offer it, a lotion massage provides the same feel as oil, but washes off in the shower quite easily. Especially with a little help. :-)Much better for fur bearers like myself!TuckHi, I think there is a mis understanding here. My question is that most guys do not go there for massage but for sex only. If that is the case, why do we pay for the oil massage when Thai massage is cheaper. I am assume there must be a reason to pay extra for the oil massage when you are not getting a massage anyway. Is this so the house would make more money and not be mad at all the guys? The difference is very small but I am just wondering.If I want to be first or 2nd customer at busy place like Tulip or Mango, what time would you guys recommend? I have never been there so would not have a preference to the girl since I have not seen any of them. I just don't want to get a girl that is too tired to give me a good service.
M P Lurker
12-31-09, 15:53
Hi, I think there is a mis understanding here. My question is that most guys do not go there for massage but for sex only. If that is the case, why do we pay for the oil massage when Thai massage is cheaper. I am assume there must be a reason to pay extra for the oil massage when you are not getting a massage anyway. Is this so the house would make more money and not be mad at all the guys? The difference is very small but I am just wondering.If I want to be first or 2nd customer at busy place like Tulip or Mango, what time would you guys recommend? I have never been there so would not have a preference to the girl since I have not seen any of them. I just don't want to get a girl that is too tired to give me a good service.There are many shops where the girl does not expect to have sex for the full session and expects to give a massage too. Could be a surcharge for oil/lotion used but really Thai massage should be more tiring for the girl and therefore dearer.Another problem is that some girls don't do Thai massage either because they are not trained or just don't want to do it (too tiring).Its not unusual for the girl to make absolutely nothing from the massage fee paid downstairs and only make money from sexual services. There is normally no salary too.I once took a girl at Angel just for 1 hour, as she had a booking following. We obviously had no time at all for a massage. So the type of amssage booked would have been totally irrelevant.Don't go late in the evening as the girl may be tired. 3PM should be safe.
Don't forget, that the fee for the massage goes (mostly) to the shop and covers the room etc and oil, shower, water, towels, oil, lotion etc. as appropriate for the type of massage.I know that in Chiang Mai, the girl giving you a 250 THB foot massage will net 100 THB.For a thai massage, you normally don't get a shower or a private room.The girl's "tip", whether for HJ, BJ, FS or whatever other extras she may offer, goes exclusively to her (unless she is being shaken down by the shop)
Traveller China
12-31-09, 18:16
Was strolling down soi 19 from my Westin lodging recently. I was not really looking for anything at all, but when walking back I looked down a dark side-soi and saw a lit-up sign "Exclusive Spa & Massage". While sauntering towards it to see what could possibly be exclusive in what was a relatively run-down area, a Japanese looking fellow emerged with a satisfied grin on his face. Intrigued by this, I went inside.A reception area with a small enclosure on the side and a staircase leading upstairs is what I found. I decided to play stupid, so just pointed to the oil massage with scrup option on the menu and 30 secs later a short, cheerful and slightly chubby Chiang Mai girl was leading me up the stairs.I was asked to strip and head for the shower, which I did. She did join, but wrapped by a towel... Once on the bed, she showed that she really knew how to give a massage. I was floating. She massaged and scrubbed the back side, had me flip over and went on. When she approached more strategic parts, she slopped two handfuls of oil all over and proceeded with a penis massage the likes of which I have never had. This was interspersed with balls massage, which I still remain skeptical of. It requires supreme skill and touch not to make me wince just thinking about it. This girl came close, and she was having fun pushing my nuts upwards to resemble two delicate eggs.After 15 minutes of teasing massage, she popped the magical question. HJ, bodyslide and FS were on the menu. I asked her to start with the bodyslide and proceed to the FS. When I moved to remove her top, she gently pushed me back and told me she had to complete the massage and scrub first - with a teasing glint in her eye.The massage and scrub being finished, we washed off and she oiled us both up and started sliding. I have had better bodyslides, I must admit. After 10 minutes she capped me and gave a very perfunctory BJ. Not her thing, and when that is the case it is not my thing either. After no more than 30 secs of BJ she hopped on and started riding. La-di-da-di-da-di-da, pretty straightforward stuff. And through it all she did not offer or respond to attempts of kissing, which is a big turn-off for me. I must quote John Cleese from "The Meaning of Life" when talking about foreplay: "What's wrong with a kiss?"Once finished, we hit the shower again and she cleaned me up thoroughly. So 3 showers in 90 minutes, an excellent massage/scrub and a so-so FS. if nothing else, at least it is available.For those interested in sampling other girls there (I saw 4 of them when leaving and they were not shabby looking when compared to other MPs in Bangkok), the place is down a side street off Soi 19. When walking away from Sukhumvit it is on the right, approx 400-500 meters down Soi 19. There is a pet shop in the same side soi, if that helps in locating the right one.Happy new year to all readers and may 2010 bring with it knee-shaking releases, smiling ladies and a plethora of opportunities to indulge!EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
....If I want to be first or 2nd customer at busy place like Tulip or Mango, what time would you guys recommend? I have never been there so would not have a preference to the girl since I have not seen any of them. I just don't want to get a girl that is too tired to give me a good service.Not all massage ladies come to work at the same time. If you come early in the day. Then it might not be busy. But you also might have fewer ladies to choose from. More ladies come to work towards the rush hour, around 5 pm. And more customers also come at this time. Which means that you might have more ladies to choose from, if choose quickly and don't let the other guy choose the lady you like before you do.Perhaps it's not just the time of the day that matters. The day of the week and the time of the year is important too. On some days of the week and during some times of the year it's less busy for the massage ladies. And then you probably can have more choice and less tired ladies.
....Verdict: Akane is on the side of mainstream P4P in Bangkok. The girls I enjoyed as companions were well trained and delivered. Looks we can discuss until the Pacific dries out, but these two worked for me. I will keep Akane as an option when I want a break from the more humdrum issues....From your description, I gather that you didn't get to ride either one of the two Akane ladies you had massage with. I've checked out the Akane Massage website. And I found a footnote saying "You may not negotiate for sexual intercourse."http://akane-corp.com/english/eng_menu_33.htmlWhich probably means that unlike at other massage places, the Akane ladies don't offer full service.I suppose, Akane type of massage with partial service is okay too. But it can be frustrating for guy to get masturbated by a sexy lady and not be allowed to mount her and give her a good ride. And for the kind of money they charge you at Akane Massage, you can get full service at other massage places.
Member #4537
01-01-10, 14:44
From your description, I gather that you didn't get to ride either one of the two Akane ladies you had massage with. I've checked out the Akane Massage website. And I found a footnote saying "You may not negotiate for sexual intercourse."http://akane-corp.com/english/eng_menu_33.htmlWhich probably means that unlike at other massage places, the Akane ladies don't offer full service.I suppose, Akane type of massage with partial service is okay too. But it can be frustrating for guy to get masturbated by a sexy lady and not be allowed to mount her and give her a good ride. And for the kind of money they charge you at Akane Massage, you can get full service at other massage places.I know it says you cannot negotiate for full service. However, I was able to get FS twice from two different girls at the soi 33 Akane...
I know it says you cannot negotiate for full service. However, I was able to get FS twice from two different girls at the soi 33 Akane...Did you have to negotiate for it and give these ladies a lot more money? Or did they offer you full service without any negotiations, and it was up to you to give these ladies a good tip?I suppose, when they say you can't negotiate for sexual intercourse. Then this doesn't necessarily mean that the ladies can't offer it to you without any negotiations at all.But this still leaves me a little confused about Akane Massage. Do only some of the ladies offer full service and not others? And if so. Then how would a guy know which lady to go with, if he wants full service?
Member #4537
01-01-10, 14:58
Did you have to negotiate for it and give these ladies a lot more money? Or did they offer you full service without any negotiations, and it was up to you to give these ladies a good tip?I suppose, when they say you can't negotiate for sexual intercourse. Then this doesn't necessarily mean that the ladies can't offer it to you without any negotiations at all.But this still leaves me a little confused about Akane Massage. Do only some of the ladies offer full service and not others? And if so. Then how would a guy know which lady to go with, if he wants full service?Did not have to negotiate at all, just got offered inside the room. She told me to keep quiet. Did not even leave a tip. Maybe has to do with my age.
Did not have to negotiate at all, just got offered inside the room. She told me to keep quiet. Did not even leave a tip. Maybe has to do with my age.Perhaps the rules at Akane Massage don't allow full service. And if you take two ladies at the same time. Then they probably both will follow this rule for fear of being ratted upon to the management by the other girl who doesn't spread her pussy for the guy.But if you go with one lady only. Then there are no witnesses. And quite often she might encourage you to ride her. Because this is the most natural and the quickest way for her to get you off. And this probably saves her a lot of extra work trying to make you cum with her mouth and hands.Using foreplay only to get you off isn't the most natural or an easy way for the lady to get you off.
M P Lurker
01-01-10, 15:14
But this still leaves me a little confused about Akane Massage. Do only some of the ladies offer full service and not others? And if so. Then how would a guy know which lady to go with, if he wants full service?Is it the thrill of the illicit?Otherwise, why not just go to a place that offers FS? I have never found it necessary to go to Akane. I would never put up with a non-selected girl, for example!
I've checked out the Akane Massage website. And I found a footnote saying "You may not negotiate for sexual intercourse."http://akane-corp.com/english/eng_menu_33.htmlWhich probably means that unlike at other massage places, the Akane ladies don't offer full service.I suppose, Akane type of massage with partial service is okay too. But it can be frustrating for guy to get masturbated by a sexy lady and not be allowed to mount her and give her a good ride. And for the kind of money they charge you at Akane Massage, you can get full service at other massage places.Officially they do not offer FS but it varies with each girl and with each customer. Once you are in the room alone with these girls anything can happen. I've never had anyone open the door to see what all the moaning and groaning was about in the room.
Did not have to negotiate at all, just got offered inside the room. She told me to keep quiet. Did not even leave a tip. Maybe has to do with my age.What, no tip? You're in trouble now, the ISG tipping police will be calling on you forth-with.
What, no tip? You're in trouble now, the ISG tipping police will be calling on you forth-with.A big tip would be called for, if the lady had worked extra hard to please him. Her giving him full service probably meant that he did all the work for the cum-shot. Which was a good deal for both. She didn't have to work that hard. And he got the kind of service most guys naturally want with a lady.I would give a good tip for a lady like that, if she lets me have two rides and two cum-shots with her. Because my second ride with the lady usually lasts a long time. It's not easy to work up that second cum. The lady usually gets it hard and fast for a sweaty 20 minutes or so. And for all that wear and tear she deserves a good tip.
A big tip would be called for, if the lady had worked extra hard to please him. Her giving him full service probably meant that he did all the work for the cum-shot. Which was a good deal for both. She didn't have to work that hard. And he got the kind of service most guys naturally want with a lady.I would give a good tip for a lady like that, if she lets me have two rides and two cum-shots with her. Because my second ride with the lady usually lasts a long time. It's not easy to work up that second cum. The lady usually gets it hard and fast for a good 20 minutes or so. And for all that wear and tear, she deserves a good tip.Not sure what a big tip is but for offering a (FS) service not on the menu; yes I agree, he should have tipped her, regardless of his age which I suspect had little to do with her offering of FS.
Member #4537
01-01-10, 16:32
Not sure what a big tip is but for offering a (FS) service not on the menu; yes I agree, he should have tipped her, regardless of his age which I suspect had little to do with her offering of FS.One of the reasons I like going to Akane is because of the 'standard' rimming practise. So if I get FS on top of that, I think I get excellent service.The reason I don't tip was because I left my wallet in the locker.
Not sure what a big tip is but for offering a (FS) service not on the menu; yes I agree, he should have tipped her, regardless of his age which I suspect had little to do with her offering of FS.The usual price for full service in Thailand is about 1000 Baht for the lady, on top of any payment to the establishment. And this is true even in places where the ladies don't normally offer full service. Apparently even at some Traditional Thai Massage places, it's possible to get full service from the lady for about 1000 Baht. Not every lady will do it. But those who do, usually take the horny guy to the private washroom. Which isn't the best atmosphere for sex. But it has it's attractions. Being in the washroom with the lady like that gives both of you a good excuse and motivation to try out some standing and acrobatic sex positions with each other.
The reason I don't tip was because I left my wallet in the locker.Every one place their wallet/valuables in the locker. When you?re ready to leave you retrieve your valuables and pay while the girl stands at the door to wai you good bye and wait for her tip.
Ralph Kramden
01-02-10, 07:18
Just arrived home from a week of mongering in BKK. I am not inclined to shop around that much so I proceeded directly to Nataree on Xmas day arriving at about 6:30. I was astounded by the many cute sideliners available, perhaps at least 50. However, I didn't see nearly that many the rest of the time. I suspect a lot of them started drifting home for the holidays. The papa greeted me warmly and complained about bad business. Their extremely poor facilities have still not been improved at all and hot water is still hit and miss. My first selection was a good choice. I decided to continue to go there until I had a reason to look elsewhere. Here is my overall impression of the girls there after sampling 5 (one I repeated). They are very inexperienced as how to really effectively service a man's needs. They are mostly interested in processing the customer in a timely manner and getting back to the sales floor. They will let you do it, but they are very reluctant at receiving DATY. I didn't attempt romantic kissing or erotic fingering as I supposed it would not be that well received. But one girl was inclined to kiss and most of the others seemed quite interested in my cock. And another seemed to really appreciate it when I soaped her standing up while applying liberal hand massage to her two most vital orifices. CBJ seems mandatory with varying degrees of skill, or lack thereof. But all things considered I am attracted to the youthfulness of the sideline Nataree sex dolls. Nataree seems to be favored by mostly Asians, both Thai and Japanese, and I am surprised I didn't see many European looking guys lurking around.Of course your service may be quite different than what I received if you are a hot looking 20 something stud. I am old enough to be many of these girls' grandfather (by Thai norms anyway), but I was very friendly and smiling towards them which they responded to. It pays to be nice to them as they will return the favor. It also pays to tip the papa a 100 and have him say something to the girl in your favor about receiving good service.It was a mistake to repeat with the one hot bodied girl who really got into the humping action the first time because she had a poor attitude the second time around. Another notable performer was a 21 year old college student studying for a tourism degree who had a fully natural 40 inch bust. And BROTHER she knew how to use those rascals in the bath by giving me a hellacious tit masturbation with a technique that was new to me. I really enjoyed her and looked for her other times but to no avail. She told me she had a Japanese boyfriend which led me to believe she was strictly a some-timer working to earn extra money to study Japanese in Japan.I have had good luck at High Class on other visits, but nothing caught my fancy this time around. On New Years Day both High Class and Nataree were empty of girls so I ventured into Emmanuale. My choice of #28 was about a 6.5 in looks and body but she really made up for it in the service she provided. She finished me off with a really expert Thai massage utilizing some chiropractic maneuvers. I exited well satisfied customer. Now if those Nataree girls could be trained to perform only half as well as #28, they would really be stars.I ventured into the Beer Garden a few times to absorb some of the local color. I can't imagine how all those 30 and 40 something looking used up old dish rags can conjure up any business, but I guess they do as there was no shortage of prowlers on hand. I only saw one working girl there that I would be even remotely interested in, and not surprisingly she was busy with a john every time I saw her (she of a lovely caramel colored boxom).
NicFrenchy
01-02-10, 08:20
Every one place their wallet/valuables in the locker. When you’re ready to leave you retrieve your valuables and pay while the girl stands at the door to wai you good bye and wait for her tip.Absolutely. Girls always accompany you until you are outside.Well, if no tip, it is your choice but I doubt that any of the girls will be offering you anything extra in the future. Things like this spread like a fire, they are usually quick to warn the other girls about the no tip guys.anyway, yes, FS is available but not Authorised. I had FS at both Akane Locations, in the room and also in the shower. I always tipped well after FS.
M P Lurker
01-03-10, 02:16
De Lila on 6th Floor of Plaza Entertainment is now called Aquahttp://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plazaent.com%2Faqua.php&sl=th&tl=enSelene (ex Malaryn/Maleena) (400m north of Mengjai Junction) is now called Love Plus and is next to Tharn Thong (Thai & Oil massage with a fishbowl)http://www.loveplusmassage.com/
Boinky Boinky
01-04-10, 05:32
Absolutely. Girls always accompany you until you are outside.Well, if no tip, it is your choice but I doubt that any of the girls will be offering you anything extra in the future. Things like this spread like a fire, they are usually quick to warn the other girls about the no tip guys.anyway, yes, FS is available but not Authorised. I had FS at both Akane Locations, in the room and also in the shower. I always tipped well after FS.Please excuse a noob question, Nic. How much would you say is a fair tip after good FS?
around 10am this morning i was walking down surawong road with no particular plan in mind other than to get a therapeutic thai massage and to have breakfast. i had just kissed my latest sexy bar girl goodbye up by the twilo club after an evening and morning of sexercise. i was feeling pretty good as she tried to turn down payment (she wants to be my new gf). i stopped in a "7" to buy a bottle of water near the turn to silom soi 6. when i walked out a smiling woman grabbed my arm and said "happy new year!" it was khun b., a cute 30ish woman from the lisa massage shop next door. pai nai? "where are you going?"hmmm...other than walking by the shop, i hadn't seen b. in awhile. i know her well from the another lisa massage shop on silom (near the sofitel hotel). remembering b.'s extra special skills, i said, "how 'bout a massage?" with her smile growing bigger, into the empty shop we went, up the stairs two floors to a room with a big massage table, a shower and a big mirror at the head end of the table.b. gives a great oil massage. after about 45 minutes, having worked her way to my crotch, she says quietly, "you want?" i nod, and away she goes with a very spirited bbbj. i'm wondering if she doesn't moonlight at the star of light. after a few minutes of quick bobbing, "you have condom," she asked? i said no (mai kit), as more sex was the last thing i was thinking about when i left my apartment over an hour before. she switches now from oral to manual mode and starts a hj just as good as the bj. not feeling like i'm even close to finishing, i'm just going with the flow here. another 10 minutes go by and she smiles knowingly, takes a condom out of her little bag, slips it on me and starts to suck again, only harder. i'm feeling less now with the condom on, but it's not bad. she tips her head up with a pretty smile and says coyly, "i want you to fuck me." since i've been with her before i know what this means. i get up and position myself standing at the foot of the table facing the mirror. b. hikes up her little white mini skirt, pulls off her panties, and assumes a froggy position with her soft, ample rear pointed upward for my pleasure. i slip into her wet pussy and away we go for another 15 minutes or so. i finally give up on a explosive finish as i've had two shots in the previous eight hours and i'm not a young man like the rabbit (despite daily doses of soy lecithin and apparently being hansum). watching oneself in a mirror screwing a happy little korat princess from the rear is a bit like starring in one's own private porno movie. priceless. in the end it was all quite spontaneous fun. i stepped back out onto to surawong, walked back up a little soi to silom, bought some fresh fruit and a loaf of bread, and in a couple of minutes was home enjoying my breakfast. the price of fun: 500 baht oil massage & 1000 baht 'tip' for b. i've had a couple of the other women at the silom shop, so i can only assume that they are all willing and able to please. fon tok says, check it out!
M P Lurker
01-04-10, 15:24
... After a few minutes of quick bobbing, "you have condom," she asked? I said no (mai kit), as more sex was the last thing I was thinking about when I left my apartment over an hour before. ....She tips her head up with a pretty smile and says coyly, "I want you to fuck me." I first I thought you misspelled "fuck" so that a search for this word would not find your post, but then you spelled it right later. Puzzling :confused:Thankfully Thais pronounce "fuck" correctly. :)Its a class of vegetables. ;) e.g. "Fuck Thong" is Pumpkin.Did you know sometimes "fuck soup" is on the Thai menu although they may spell it differently?BTW,Normally, "leum" (loom) is Thai for "forgot". This is slightly better Thai than "mai khit" which means "am not thinking" (present tense).Perhaps "not thinking" is appropriate after all.I guess the small head was doing the thinking. :DP.S. "Mai dai khit" means "did not think" (past tense)
I first I thought you misspelled "fuck" so that a search for this word would not find your post, but then you spelled it right later. Puzzling...There's a silly drinking song that some of the bargirls sing to mock their customers. "I want to fuck you, but I don't know you..." They drag out and emphasize "fuck" in the song. It sounds a little bit like Tony Montana (Al Pacino) pronounced it in Scarface.
BTW, Normally, "leum" (loom) is Thai for "forgot". This is slightly better Thai than "mai khit" which means "not thinking".Thanks Mic for the Thai grammar check. In this particular case I did mean to say "mai kit," that I was not thinking, as I was not. B. knew this, too, as her grabbing me as I walked out of the "7" was the only reason I was in there. Funny thing, I wasn't even thinking about a massage when I left my apartment to walk my friend to work. Just part of the joy of living The Life of Riley in Bangkok.
around 10am this morning i was walking down surawong road with no particular plan in mind other than to get a therapeutic thai massage and to have breakfast. [...]fon tok says, check it out!dammit! i stayed on surawong one night last week. couldn't have had this experience earlier? ;)
Its a negotiation. If either party is not happy, no need to continue!I could get a cheaper girl easily on the street mate. I wanted the prettiest girl that lots of other guys also wanted. She was superb fun as well. I was prepared to pay more. My time is too valuable to waste it on ordinary girls.4K is incredibly cheap for the whole night with a dream girl (not just an average bar girl). Many tourists would pay that much for their Hotel room, but not me!Last week wanted to see the same girl but she had been booked for whole week by some guy and taken to Phuket. Yes she is good enough to be not bored with her for a whole week. The top girls are in demand and can get higher money easily!Anyway I am sure you can move on to Pataya and find some uglies really cheap, or better still move on to Cambodia where its even cheaper. In Nigeria or Tanzania you will probably get girls for less than 1 tenth of the price.Did you come to the right place, half way round the world?O.K. I guess your right. If the girl was very hot and nice then I guess she would be worth the extra baht.Happy New Year everyone!
Asiaplayer
01-06-10, 11:19
It's been awhile since my last report as I have settled down in my new life in a new country and finally had a chance to come back to BKK.However, since it was a short business trip, I decided to go for something familiar which was Akane at 33. I found the place and went in like I never left BKK even though my last visit was like 1. 5 years ago.Proceeded to select the 50 minute massage as I was in a rush to get to an appointment. Proceeded to select the girls, there were about 10 of them and I proceeded to select the one who was slightly taller and slimmer and what a find it was. Her name was Mika (only knew her name when the receptionist gave me the stamp card when I paid).We showered, she did some anal probing and it certainly worked for me. We proceeded back to the room and her skills are excellent from ball suckling, to AR to BBBJ and finally CBJ, all the while I was fingering and fondling her.Didn't try DATY but think it is possible. Did I mention her breast. Those are certainly nice and ample, just the way I liked them.The thing is when during the selection, she was wearing a tube top with a jacket covering her breasts while the other girls were showing off in more revealing outfits. Noteworthy to say that their breasts were not as big. I think they have a policy of girls with larger breasts to hide them in the selection. So, imagine my surprise when she came into the room showing the ample breasts!So, with all the slurping and moaning, we finally finished the deed with a BBBJ.Tipped her on the way out, and she was so sweet to clean the 'snow' off my shoes!All in all, it was a very good welcome home experience! I'm glad to be back!
FlyingVisitor
01-08-10, 15:51
By the way, does anybody know if there has been a change within the staff of SOL ?Will be back there last week of January. Hope to enjoy publicity as before.FV
Imready777
01-09-10, 03:05
Brief report on my recent 3 days in BKK:Best #1. Sally at AkaneAkane has been well reviewed here but have to give a special mention to Sally who gave probably the best experience ever - both in terms of quality of service and also her friendly and willing personality. Sally deserved 10/10 and if you go see her you will not be disappointed! Especially if you like lots of rim/bbbj/cim.Actually I was lucky to find out as I chose Fuyu who was poor but for the last 30 min option took a 2nd girl which turned out to be Sally. She just took over and the rest is history. Outstanding!Best #2. Apple at Teen 24-1Not comparable to Sally (above) but still a good more simple massage experience on soi 24-1. Took basic 1 hour oil and after shower Apple spent the 1 hour focusing on taking care of one area - very slowly and softly and expertly. If you like that, she is good. This was the 500 tip option, and she was naked. More may be available.Worst of BKK #1. Benz at Love Teen soi 33Not sure exact name of shop but on soi 33 on left hand side on way up from Suk, just after entrance to Akane. Anyway avoid Benz, she had no enthuiasm, no skills, not at all friendly and only interested in money from start to finish. Why bother...? Avoid her - and maybe this shop? So many better options nearby.That's my 3 days. You win some you lose some... even in BKK :)EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Soi Walker
01-09-10, 05:03
Soi Walker had just returned to Bangkok and was trying his best to get onto the time zone faster than usual. Coming so many time zones by air, it usually takes him a week, but with plenty of exercise and ample sleep at the proper time of the day maybe, just maybe the transition could be faster. That means, don?t give in to the impulse to sleep at 4 PM or to eat at midnight.So he started to walk the soi on his first day after the long air flight. That was one week ago. Walking is good, and exercise at the MP is even better. His plan was to choose his MP before 4 PM because he couldn?t fall victim to the urge to sleep while under the stimulation of a lotion massage, right?Being away for a few months meant he had to revisit the places he knew, because a few months can bring a world of change to Sukhumvit and its soi?s. January 2nd being part of a long holiday made it a challenge, with some places closed and so many employees away for the long weekend, but his legs (all three) were up for the task.A stroll down 24/1 was a let-down, as it seemed no one was home. He stopped into Snow White on 26, as he had read so much about it on this thread, and though the half dozen ladies on duty seemed friendly enough, none knocked his socks off, so he continued to walk. Soi 33 was his next destination. He went straight to Dream Heaven where he was delighted a few months ago. Alas, his favorite went home for the holiday, but wait -- who is this lovely new one in the picture book? ?She?s your favorite one?s little sister, and they went home together.?Disappointed, but not discouraged, he went next door, to Love Teen, where Ying blew him away a few months ago and Walker was so impressed he wrote about her on this thread. Ying was busy, but the manager had just welcomed a serious regular who wanted to see the line-up, so ?please sit down and join?. Seven or eight ladies paraded in front of us, and you know, not one of them was recognizable from the pictures in the book. Soi Walker had noted Golf?s photo as the one other than Ying who would be acceptable that day, so he asked, ?Who is Golf?? When she spoke up it came as quite a surprise. ?Did they put someone else?s picture in the book?? he thought.Now discouraged, he left and thought about walking another soi, maybe 31, but toward the top of 33 he decided to walk down the little lane that has Jack&Betty, M.M.S. and Geisha MPs. Jack&Betty was closed. MMS came next, and a pretty but chubby masseuse was outside to beckon customers. Inside were only three more, but one seemed to be pleasing, though she wouldn?t come down for an interview, just a throwing a smile from the open window on the 2nd floor above.Well, in this place the menu is what Soi Walker likes, and he has written about it here before, where you pay downstairs only for the room, and anything else is private up above. The choice is therefore yours, whether to use her hands, her mouth, her center of life or just enjoy a massage if the special chemistry is missing.The manager did not require advance payment, and that was welcoming. The lady was dressed fairly casually, and not very attractively, but Soi Walker is not one to judge a book by its cover artwork, so he followed her up -- three sets of stairs to the top floor. The room was small, and clean, with useful shelves at the head of the bed to safely stow your gear. The shower was over-sized, and the A/C worked well, not too cold not too hot.She helped in the shower, but she was fully dressed. ?Are you afraid you will make your pants wet?? he asked. ?I take off my pants after I go to get the oil.? Okay. They never bring the kit with them, and others in this thread have commented on this practice, and it?s still a wonder why.She came back five minutes later and took off her jeans, smiling and seeming to express a certain shyness that seems so out of place, but, well, she doesn?t know Soi Walker yet and he hasn?t yet spoken about ?special?. She left on her cute panties, and wrapped a towel around her waist. Walker was enjoying it, as he didn?t yet know the girl and didn?t know what to expect, and that?s part of the fun, especially for the first time after several months of being away.She asked the Walker to turn over, for a back massage first. Well, Soi Walker promised Willie to never squeeze him between the mattress and Walker?s rock-hard abdomen. Willie likes to see the light and feel the fresh air. So he told her that we?ll do the back later in a position he?ll show her later.She started with the feet and ankles, and what came next was a first for Soi Walker. She sat with her knees apart, straddling his right foot, and she placed his right foot between her thighs so that his big toe was touching her clitoris, or very near it, and the palm of his foot was all over her pussy. Of course, a white towel and her cute panties were in between. Walker started to laugh and she asked why, so he wiggled his big toe and asked if she liked it. She smiled but kept silent, but she didn?t adjust the foot?s position. That made Willie get interested, and he raised his head a bit to have a look.The leg massage was nice, but the objective was to avoid falling asleep, so Soi Walker marked a region above mid-thigh and below his abdomen and told her that?s where she should spend the next 90 minutes. She asked if that meant Willie and the great balls of fire, because she?s not one to make an assumption, and Walker still had not said the special word. ?Yes, of course,? he replied, and she did not start to recite a menu of prices -- another good sign that luck had returned.She gladly got into it, though still wrapped in cloth. That?s was okay, as Walker wanted to stay awake until 6 PM. She had nimble and expert fingers, and she seemed to like playing with Willie and his boys. She varied her pace and moved from region to region, thighs, hips, abdomen then back to the center of the universe, time and again. At one point she stepped up the pace as if she wanted to provoke the fountain of youth, but she backed off on command, and went into lower gear again. This lady knows how to stoke the engine, and how to cool it down. She was careful to ask where it felt good, where it did not, and it?s a good guess that she could bring about a happy ending at any moment of her choice. That?s a comfortable thought in case of a fire or other emergency: you want to evacuate fast, and better yet evacuate happy.It was getting too hot, so a change of pace was needed. Walker had her sit behind him, doing a reach-around HJ for a while. Then he asked her to take off her top, so he could rest his head on her breasts. At this time he told her he would tip her for ?special? and not to worry. She was worried that her breasts are too small, and while quite average in size they were firm and her nipples were A-1 in quality, IMO.So she?s still doing a reach-around, and Soi Walker took her right nipple into his mouth. No complaint, and better yet, in about 30 seconds her face changed noticeably and she started to use her mouth on Willie instead of using her hands. It was getting very steamy at that point, as she seemed to be getting turned on, and that just heightened the frenzy.Now we?re not quite in a 69, as Soi Walker likes breasts, and sometimes lips, if the chemistry is really good, and he prefers to have Willie have fun with his matey instead of diving in with his face. She?s getting very energetic now, so much so that Walker had to ask for a pause. Now he showed her how to do the back and shoulder massage, sitting behind him, with her legs wrapped around him. Walker stroked her legs and thighs all the while and finally agreed to her suggestion of putting on a condom, and then she took off the towel and panties.Well, the rest is usual and standard and personal to one?s taste. The adventure was just what Soi Walker had wanted, and so much so that he wanted to contribute this account to the ISG Forum on Bangkok. That it was a shared experience was evident in the way she tightened her jaws and made little grunting sounds as she rocked and raised and pressed and squeezed from above then rolled on command for a fierce and sweaty finish.She gave a second glass of iced tea to Soi Walker as he laced his shoes downstairs, and waited patiently to see him to the door after paying the room charge. She asked when he might come again, and as someone else pointed out in this thread, that?s the sign of a happy server and a happy customer who will be welcomed back at any time.It was near 6 PM and the mission was accomplished: He had not fallen asleep in those deadly hours for jet lag recovery; the exercise made him hungry for a meal at the proper meal time; he would be relaxed and ready for sleep by his normal bed time; and he would fall asleep assured of sweet dreams.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Soi Walker
01-10-10, 02:37
Brief report on my recent 3 days in BKK:Worst of BKK #1. Benz at Love Teen soi 33Not sure exact name of shop but on soi 33 on left hand side on way up from Suk, just after entrance to Akane. Anyway avoid Benz, she had no enthuiasm, no skills, not at all friendly and only interested in money from start to finish. Why bother...? Avoid her - and maybe this shop? So many better options nearby.You can't know a book is good by the attractiveness of its cover. It's happened to me, too, perhaps the subject of another post regarding a recent stroll down Sukhumvit 31.However, IMO Love Teen is not a bleak desert of windswept sand and camel dung. I wrote about Ying some months ago, and she's still there, with white skin, sweet smile, agile fingers and adept lips and tongue, and though she's got a little more hip mass than her slim body would suggest, it makes for a fine cushion or pillow or saddle or whatever use you'd like to make of it.The fault I find is that the photos too often don't match the reality, and that's a problem up and down MP street. Even Ying's picture looks younger, but the face is a good match. I can attest to her personality and work ethic, and surely she needs the promise of "special" tip before she'll take off her clothes, but she delivers, happily.I've had two others there, one being as sincerely interested in serving as Ying, but the other unfortunately a factory worker bored with the routine and going through it by the numbers.It happens to everyone. Good luck next time, and keep walking the soi's. I do.Soi Walker
HiI am visiting BKK next week and will be putting up at the Centara Grand at Centralworld Mall. I beleive the address is 999/99 Rama 1 Road, Patumwan, BangkokJust needed some old experienced hands to point me to the good soapy/oily massage place near the hotel. Wont have much time as traveling wit the wife ;) Please pretty please. I love you long time and I will post a FR too.
M P Lurker
01-11-10, 04:42
HiI am visiting BKK next week and will be putting up at the Centara Grand at Centralworld Mall. I beleive the address is 999/99 Rama 1 Road, Patumwan, BangkokJust needed some old experienced hands to point me to the good soapy/oily massage place near the hotel. Wont have much time as traveling wit the wife ;) Please pretty please. I love you long time and I will post a FR too.The nearest Soapies recommended are Annies, ChaoPraya 2, and Sao Botan (in that order). Annies is just under 2km away. You would need a motorcycle to return in a hurry.Venus may be closer (if still operating) but I can't recommend it.Centara Map (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Centara+Central+World,+Rama+1&sll=13.745867,100.540309&sspn=0.011151,0.019355&gl=au&ie=UTF8&radius=0.65&filter=0&rq=1&ev=p&hq=Centara+Central+World,+Rama+1&hnear=&ll=13.74791,100.54076&spn=0.011151,0.019355&z=16&iwloc=C)Nearby Soapies (http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&gl=au&ie=UTF8&radius=1.13&rq=1&ev=zo&hq=Centara+Central+World,+Rama+1&hnear=&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.748639,100.539837&spn=0.022302,0.03871&z=15)Map with Oilies (http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.745972,100.548205&spn=0.022302,0.03871&z=15)
I've checked it out once or twice, and taken buddies there, but this is the first time I actually went upstairs. There was a kawaii-looking girl in the album, and she happened to be sitting right there on the couch. She was lovely, friendly and cooperative, looking innocent but no holds barred. BJ in the shower, sex in standing, missionary, froggy, doggy, etc positions, and an unhurried HJ (at my request), while cuddling, as encore. Solid.
Tricky3000
01-11-10, 05:42
HiI am visiting BKK next week and will be putting up at the Centara Grand at Centralworld Mall.Just needed some old experienced hands to point me to the good soapy/oily massage place near the hotel. Wont have much time as traveling wit the wife ;) I think your fastest getaway will be Akane Fashion Massage, right off of Chitlom BTS Skytrain station. It's on Mick's oilies map.Just walk through CentralWorld Mall to the Skywalk (the walkway bridge under the Skytrain) and down to the shop on a small lane off the main road below the Chitlom station.http://akane-corp.com/english/english_top.html
Bkk Bummer
01-11-10, 15:20
My girlfriend likes to watch and I can't seem to find any mention of MP's on which have double massage rooms and that the ladies are up for FS or BJs. Any one come across those? She just likes to watch while getting a nice massage.
NicFrenchy
01-12-10, 01:43
My girlfriend likes to watch and I can't seem to find any mention of MP's on which have double massage rooms and that the ladies are up for FS or BJs. Any one come across those? She just likes to watch while getting a nice massage.Rin @ Hana (soi 22) would do it.If you are not especially into massage, then Eden is your best Bet.Lady guests (your GF) join Free.3800 for 90 minutes with 2 thai girls, Anything goes (if you choose Anal Girls).
Bkk Bummer
01-12-10, 09:08
Rin at Hana (soi 22) would do it.If you are not especially into massage, then Eden is your best Bet.Lady guests (your GF) join Free.3800 for 90 minutes with 2 thai girls, Anything goes (if you choose Anal Girls).So I just walk in with my girlfriend? Are the rooms at Eden nice? Or is it bare basics?
I've checked it out once or twice, and taken buddies there, but this is the first time I actually went upstairs. There was a kawaii-looking girl in the album, and she happened to be sitting right there on the couch. She was lovely, friendly and cooperative, looking innocent but no holds barred. BJ in the shower, sex in standing, missionary, froggy, doggy, etc positions, and an unhurried HJ (at my request), while cuddling, as encore. Solid.and her name would be...?
and her name would be...?Haaa, just go see if someone catches your fancy ;-) There's only about 6 girls in the book ..
My girlfriend likes to watch and I can't seem to find any mention of MP's on which have double massage rooms and that the ladies are up for FS or BJs. Any one come across those? She just likes to watch while getting a nice massage.
Rin @ Hana (soi 22) would do it.......If you are not especially into massage, then Eden is your best Bet....Nick,If you are referring to my rare FR of 2 years back (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=729664&postcount=109) about the 3-some with Rin and my then-GF, then the situation here might be different.Bkk Bummer seems to be looking for someone he can fuck, while his GF is watching. Getting a massage at the same time would require an additional masseuse (or masseur?). I don't know that Hana has a room large enough to bed 4 or even 3 comfortably. I also doubt, that Rin, with all her experience and qualities, would to let herself be fucked, while another stranger is watching.In my case, Rin was actually demonstrating her fabulous Ball Massage technique to my GF, with me being the the only naked one, i.e. the specimen.At no time had it been my intention to fuck Rin in front of my GF, who would have torn off my dick right there.It was only later on, when things had gotten somewhat out of hand, that Rin encouraged me to fuck my GF and offered some invaluable assistance.@Bkk BummerYou can always try Rin, but you should also know that she is around 50 y.o.Let us know if it worked out.I also think Eden would be your best bet.Good luck!PSI'll be arriving in BKK in 3 weeks around noon.As a welcome present to myself, I have already phoned Rin and made an appointment later that same afternoon. She not only remembered me, but also inquired, if I would be wanting to ......... as usual (i.e. my favorite perversion)!
Bkk Bummer
01-12-10, 15:01
Nick,If you are referring to my rare FR of 2 years back (http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=729664&postcount=109) about the 3-some with Rin and my then-GF, then the situation here might be different.BKK Bummer seems to be looking for someone he can fuck, while his GF is watching. Getting a massage at the same time would require an additional masseuse (or masseur?). I don't know that Hana has a room large enough to bed 4 or even 3 comfortably.I also doubt, that Rin, with all her experience and qualities, would to let herself be fucked, while another stranger is watching.In my case, Rin was actually demonstrating her fabulous Ball Massage technique to my GF, with me being the the only naked one, I. E. The specimen.At no time had it been my intention to fuck Rin in front of my GF, who would have torn off my dick right there.It was only later on, when things had gotten somewhat out of hand, that Rin encouraged me to fuck my GF and offered some invaluable assistance.AtBkk BummerYou can always try Rin, but you should also know that she is around 50 year oldLet us know if it worked out.I also think Eden would be your best bet.Good luck!PSI'll be arriving in BKK in 3 weeks around noon.As a welcome present to myself, I have already phoned Rin and made an appointment later that same afternoon.She not only remembered me, but also inquired, if I would be wanting to. As usual (I. E. My favorite perversion)!Thanks guys. I can't see myself doing a 50 year old woman. It's like eating the week old fish when there is fresh seafood on the buffet. But I'm sure she's good at what she does.To tell you the truth we've been to Thai House at Diamond Grand and my masseuse gave me a HJ, ball massage while my GF was getting her massage and she kinda enjoyed the show. But they don't have private bathrooms and you have to walk through a common area to take a shower and they have lots of Chinese tour groups which made it noisy. That's why we're looking for a new place.Would like to have other places to consider other than Eden.
Thanks guys. I can't see myself doing a 50 year old woman. It's like eating the week old fish when there is fresh seafood on the buffet. But I'm sure she's good at what she does.I believe that they have other younger girls working at the same place. Rin is just the owner and seem to be very good at ball massage.It is the first thing I am going to try when I get to Bangkok is Rin's ball massage since I have heard so much about it.
I believe that they have other younger girls working at the same place. Rin is just the owner and seem to be very good at ball massage.It is the first thing I am going to try when I get to Bangkok is Rin's ball massage since I have heard so much about it.I was there yesterday for a massage by Rin, and let me just say that the picture on her website is several years old, and has been photoshoped. Her ball massage is really excellent, but she is at LEAST 50, and the years have not been expecially kind. Just don't set your expectations too high in terms of her physical appearance, and you'll enjoy.
I was there yesterday for a massage by Rin, and let me just say that the picture on her website is several years old, and has been photoshoped. Her ball massage is really excellent, but she is at LEAST 50, and the years have not been expecially kind. Just don't set your expectations too high in terms of her physical appearance, and you'll enjoy.Are there other girls there that can give the same ball massage?
Thanks guys. I can't see myself doing a 50 year old woman. It's like eating the week old fish when there is fresh seafood on the buffet. But I'm sure she's good at what she does.Old fish is some places considered a delicacy. :)From Wikipedia:Rakfisk (Norwegian pronunciation: [rakfisk]) is a traditional eastern Norwegian fish dish made from trout or sometimes char, salted and fermented for two to three months, then eaten without cooking.Surstr?mming ([ˇsʉ:rʂtr?m:iŋ] "soured (Baltic) herring") is a northern Swedish dish consisting of fermented Baltic herring, just like Japanese Kusaya fermented fish such as the horse mackerel, the flying fish, or the sharks. Similar fish is made world wide.[1] Surstr?mming is sold in cans, which often bulge during shipping and storage, due to the continued fermentation. When opened, the contents release a strong and sometimes overwhelming odour, which explains why the dish is often eaten outdoors.Yummy, not really
So I just walk in with my girlfriend? Are the rooms at Eden nice? Or is it bare basics?Yes, you just walk in with your gf. You'll sit at the bar and the girls will be called in for a lineup. The girls on the left of the yellow line do anal and those to the right do not. You and your gf will select 2 girls and head upstairs. Many people select one and let that girl select the second. The rooms are decent. Fair size with bathroom ensuite. The ceiling has mirrors. Lots of toys are available. Everything from vibes to strap-ons. Costumes if you'd like. TVs with porn of that helps you.
Hi everybody,I allready posted about that a while ago but i still wondering between different options without one seeming clearly better thant the others.I'll be soon with my girlfriend (asian, non thai) in bkk. And she seem to be willing to try a little bit of lesbian action. In order to start slowly i figured out that the best would be her being massaged by a girl while i'm watching.I tought Rin could be the one but 1.she seems to look quite old (my girfriend is about 25) 2. i'm not sure she knows/is willing to massage woman.If anybody has an idea of a woman a bit youger (30's 40's) who give good massage and who would enjoy take care of a girl, please let me know. Is there not a single lesbian massage salon in Bkk? Hard to believe.Which fun to all.Thanks in advance!
Are there other girls there that can give the same ball massage?I've found that almost all massage girls can give this excellent service....Just show them what part of your package you would like to receive special treatment. The Thai girls are all so willing to please. One of the Teen places on Suk Soi 33 also advertises this service http://www.geocities.jp/bkkteen/eg/index-eg.htmGood luck!!!
Dextro Sol
01-14-10, 10:06
Old fish is some places considered a delicacy. :)Surstr?mming ([ˇsʉ:rʂtr?m:iŋ] "soured (Baltic) herring") is a northern Swedish dish consisting of fermented Baltic herring, just like Japanese Kusaya fermented fish such as the horse mackerel, the flying fish, or the sharks. Similar fish is made world wide.[1] Surstr?mming is sold in cans, which often bulge during shipping and storage, due to the continued fermentation. When opened, the contents release a strong and sometimes overwhelming odour, which explains why the dish is often eaten outdoors.Yummy, not reallyYummy, YES!!! Everybody should try it!!! Sorry for OT....
...If anybody has an idea of a woman a bit youger (30's 40's) who give good massage and who would enjoy take care of a girl, please let me know. Is there not a single lesbian massage salon in Bkk? Hard to believe.Why do you want to start with a massage? Seems like a lot of bother to get to what you really want. There's lots of lesbian action in BKK for the adventuresome soul. Just go around to some of the bars and talk to the girls.I suggest you go to the Suzie Wong Club on Soi Cowboy. SW is well known for it's nightly g-on-g show. Lots of wild young bi-girls work there (check out hot Nuan from Nong Kai). Talk to the mamasan named On. She's the fat chunky woman who speaks very good English. Buy her a drink or two, and tell her what you are looking for and she will take care of you. Take your time, pick a couple of dancers that you like, have them come over (naked) and play with your girl, pick one and pay the barfine (600 baht), take her back to your hotel, turn on some dance music, pour some drinks, and let your girlfriend have a good old time (ST 2000+/- baht). Take two girls and you'll all have fun. It's as easy as that.Rin at Hana is like fine old wine. You have to know what you are drinking to truly appreciate it. She's the best at what she does, but it is not for everyone!
Haaa, just go see if someone catches your fancy ;-) There's only about 6 girls in the book ..Oh FFS. I do go there often and there are some girls (of the 12 that are on the books) that take my fancy. I just thought that since this was a forum for exchange of information you could actually exchange some information. Otherwise saying 'I went to Mango Massage and had a good massage' is not adding much to the sum total of human knowledge...Let me guess that the cute girl was Game.
oh ffs. i do go there often and there are some girls (of the 12 that are on the books) that take my fancy. i just thought that since this was a forum for exchange of information you could actually exchange some information. otherwise saying 'i went to mango massage and had a good massage' is not adding much to the sum total of human knowledge...why are there always so many guys on this forum who write like someone didn't change their [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131)? sure it's uncomfortable, but you can do something about it and you'll feel much better. i don't need you to tell me what to share. if i think something is useful, i'll report it, as i often have. i don't think which girl i like at mango is relevant. another guy may try her and be unhappy. i do think that another positive vote for mango, from someone who had not gone upstairs there before, is worthwhile. if i thought the girl was bad enough to be avoided, and not just having a bad day, i may have named her. if i got off on imagining other guys going to do the girl i just did, i may have named her. what exactly did your post contribute to our knowledge?
Thanks Fon Tok for your informative post. I'll keep that in mind but the thing is my girlfriend has no experience into lesbian at all and i don't want to rush her into the full thing just like that. Moreover, a youg and attractive girl may look like competition for her and the feeling of being threaten by an other girl may waste the experience and cause more harm than fun for me in the long run (she will assume i'm confortabel dealing with prostitutes and will do so everytime i go to bkk...).That's why i need to move slowly, see what she is confortable with and can't rush her into porn action with a gogo girl just like that. The idea of the massage was to arouse her gently and to make her feel that she is at the center of the action...Nevertheless i'll take her there to watch the show and see if it turns her on!But anyway any information about a Rin like masseuse who could give a very good oil massage and then gently caress and masturbate her would be great!
Isn't Mouse1 just telling you politely to shut up, unless you have something meaningful to contribute, which, in the post he is referring to, you clearly do not?This is very good general advice and should be adopted as ISG Forum Rule #1
I do think that another positive vote for Mango, from someone who had not gone upstairs there before, is worthwhile.Well, I think you're wrong, but let's leave it there.Look, I'm happy if you want to criticise my posts, and I will comment / criticise other's as I see fit. But why the rapid descent into childish personal abuse? Really a bit pathetic...
Bkk Bummer
01-14-10, 17:38
Old fish is some places considered a delicacy. :)From Wikipedia:Surstr?mming ( "soured (Baltic) herring") When opened, the contents release a strong and sometimes overwhelming odour, which explains why the dish is often eaten outdoors.TB... good one but above last sentence really does it. I'm going for the fresh seafood. Don't know if Rin would do it outdoors!! :) I'll try Eden then. Sounds like the best bet.
...but the thing is my girlfriend has no experience into lesbian at all and i don't want to rush her into the full thing just like that...Moreover, a youg and attractive girl may look like competition for her and the feeling of being threaten by an other girl may waste the experience and cause more harm than fun for me in the long run (she will assume i'm confortabel dealing with prostitutes and will do so everytime i go to bkk...).You might consider that ISG is not a couple's relationship resource. I think you need to evaluate the strength of your relationship and exam your motives before you move forward with your plan. Playing around in Bangkok's P4P scene is not for "maybes." You are either here to play or you're not.Talk to your girl and tell her what you are thinking and what you want her to to consider doing (e.g., "I want to watch you lick another woman's pussy..."). If you don't, and you try to serendipitously "ease" her into g-on-g action, you may lose her. On the flip side, if she bolts on you because she's uptight and thinks you are a kinky SOB whoor monger, then you will be free to organize as many BKK threesomes or foursomes as you like. Sounds like a win-win to me!
Talk to your girl and tell her what you are thinking and what you want her to to consider doing (e.g., "I want to watch you lick another woman's pussy..."). If you don't, and you try to serendipitously "ease" her into g-on-g action, you may lose her. I second, third and fourth this strategy. If she's not into swinging and not into girls then you are going to have a problem on your hands. You will have to hide your trips to BKK and elsewhere. Do y'all talk about adding playmate in your pillow talk?There is a swinging forum here on ISG that you may want to explore to understand the risks you are running and the wonderful experiences you may have. But do your homework or you may end up in a situation you didn't expect and are not happy with.
Has anybody been to Arina Two Massage, Sukh. Soi 23 recently?. I've read about matresses for bodyslide, sounds interesting, if the girls are pretty and slim (no website). Are Riraku's services similar to Sazanka's? Prices are almost the same, but I have not found out if HJ is als included. How are the girls there? I am also interested in JJ Fashion, massage and HJ only, but some the girls are cute on the photo.Thanks!
SexWithSmile
01-17-10, 03:05
Going to Bangkok about twice a year. I know May, a previous long-timer super performer from Tulip, for 3 years now. She now moved to Snow White (together with April) so I decided to pay her visit. She is a cool girl, and always brings some "students" (the new girls just starting) for some educative new session.This time it was Icy. Let me put straight: good Icy does not have a very pretty face. She also has not gone through the cosmetic surgery routine. So body is acceptable, but nothing to rave about. She does not speak a world of English. However, read on.First, Snow White is totally similar to Tulip, rooms are basic but clean, bed is a bit small, and there are convenient mirrors on the wall.Usual shower routine and on to the business. May brought her small vibrator. Let us start with the "education" of Icy. She follows May instructions for the double blow job, they pour some oil on me. The routine, always pleasant.Then Icy lays down, waiting to receive. No moving, classic missionary position. But whhhaaaaattt a pussy! Gets wet naturally, immediately. Narrow, responsive. That was enough to make me come.Turn to May, who uses her vibrator as I shake up. May of course has more mileage but is fun.I take a rest, and Icy and May restart to give me double blow job. I could not resist to make Icy adopting a 69 position with me. I touch around (am a bit scared of using my tongue and finger due to risk of infections) and am wondering: is this ash for a grab?Let us try. I take Icy on a doggie, first in the pussy. Nice and moaning. And I ask to May whether I can go on the backdoor. She smiles and says "yes yes, must learn". She takes the lube and pours it liberally on Icy.Time to go anal then. Now I define myself as a Gentleman, so I go slowly, asks a few time to May and Icy if she is OK. Of course I feel a bit guilty as I am aware it hurts the beginners. But needless to say that this is very good once inside. Especially as May consoles good Icy by rubbing and kissing her while I am performing.Then May laughed and told me that it is Icy's first time. Not sure I should believe this, but I agree that she was not experienced. I remember with C, anal was like trampoline.Well, 2 hours gone, time to dress up. I book them again on Tuesday night for a movie and bowling starter, then on to the real game in my room at Livingstones (jacuzzi and big bed).With that kind of experience, who cares about stunners and high class premises?Cheers to all,SWSEDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
NicFrenchy
01-17-10, 05:59
With that kind of experience, who cares about stunners and high class premises?Very Nice Review SWS... :) I think miss Icy will be solid booked for the next few months... Many mongers will love to be among the first to enter her Ass...
HiI am visiting BKK next week and will be putting up at the Centara Grand at Centralworld Mall. I beleive the address is 999/99 Rama 1 Road, Patumwan, BangkokJust needed some old experienced hands to point me to the good soapy/oily massage place near the hotel. Wont have much time as traveling wit the wife ;) Please pretty please. I love you long time and I will post a FR too.Staying at Central World you're not in the direct vicinity of oilies/soapies (except maybe Akane Chitlom branch which definitely is a pretty good option but no FS). However CW is very central and it won't take you too long to go to many entertainment centers. For oilies just take the BTS to Phrom Pong station and they are all there. A somewhat pricy but good soapy option is Infinity JC on Suriwongse Road. Take the BTS to Sala Daeng, walk down Patpong 1 or 2 until you reach Suriwongse Road and it's on the other side of the road. For more soapies (and more choice) you'll have to go to Ratchada. Two possibilities here: BTS to Asoke and then MRT to Huay Kwang or the bus (yes it works) in front of Central World and driving to the north: #73, #73ก and #514 will all drive you to Huay Kwang.
M P Lurker
01-17-10, 13:04
A somewhat pricy but good soapy option is Infinity JC on Suriwongse Road. Take the BTS to Sala Daeng, walk down Patpong 1 or 2 until you reach Suriwongse Road and it's on the other side of the road. For more soapies (and more choice) you'll have to go to Ratchada. Two possibilities here: BTS to Asoke and then MRT to Huay Kwang or the bus (yes it works) in front of Central World and driving to the north: #73, #73ก and #514 will all drive you to Huay Kwang.Yes that would be nice but unfortunately Infinity JC has closed.
M P Lurker
01-17-10, 13:13
La Belle has recently introduced Farang surchage (which really means surcharge for all guys that are not East Asian looking). Its 1000 Baht.500 to the girl (Farang cock tax), and500 to the management (Farang discrimination tax).Perhaps they believe management is compensated when girl is away from work with a damaged pussy.The starting price for East Asians is 2200 I believe, and so 3200 Baht up for Farangs.If you (non East Asians) normally tip the girl an extra 500, then you don't need to any more, as she will get it automatically via the surcharge. Normally, Farangs tip better than Asians.
Yes that would be nice but unfortunately Infinity JC has closed.Ha! My bad! My bad luck too!OK then walk up half way back on Patpong 2 and head for Star of Light.
La Belle has recently introduced Farang surchage (which really means surcharge for all guys that are not East Asian looking). Its 1000 Baht.500 to the girl (Farang cock tax), and500 to the management (Farang discrimination tax).Perhaps they believe management is compensated when girl is away from work with a damaged pussy.The starting price for East Asians is 2200 I believe, and so 3200 Baht up for Farangs.If you (non East Asians) normally tip the girl an extra 500, then you don't need to any more, as she will get it automatically via the surcharge. Normally, Farangs tip better than Asians.I plan to visit Bangkok in Februrary, still doing research from the 100s of posts on this website so far. If you more experienced fellows have anything to share with me please do.And as titled, do I get charged the Farang tax if I don't speak a lick of thai, I am East Asian?
I've visited the Homm massage and SPA which is adjusted to the Soprano club. I went there because there web site was specially mentioning massage for gentlemen and I've read in another forum that some very pretty girls are there. I have to say that it was one of the biggest rip offs I've ever had in Bangkok. The place is really strange. First you are allowed to choose the girl (which I've done). Then you are accompanied to a very nice room that has a double bed and not the special massage tables. At this moment you have the impression that at least a HJ is offered for the 1350 Baht aromatherapy massage and maybe other services are negotiable. The girl asked me to take a shower, she left the room and when she came back she started giving me a very average (even below average) massage. In the middle of the session I've tried to open a discussion and I've said that the 1350 price is quite expensive for just an aroma massage. She told me that massage is the only thing that it is offered. Despite this I've tried (when I was laying in my back) very politely, to signal her that I needed at least a HJ and I've tried to expose my genital area when she was massaging my leg. Immediately she covered me with the towel and she seemed offended. Of course I didn't made any other attempt and we just finished the massage and I left. As I said is not only the absence of any additional service that pissed me of but also the fact that the massage was very very average and extremely expensive. My advise: do not go there!
Going to Bangkok about twice a year. I know May, a previous long-timer super performer from Tulip, for 3 years now. She now moved to Snow White (together with April) so I decided to pay her visit. She is a cool girl, and always brings some "students" (the new girls just starting) for some educative new session....Probably there are some Thai P4P ladies who want to sex-work with farangs and make money that way. But they don't know any English or other foreign languages. And they don't have much experience in the massage business.But if they join the massage business as assistants to experienced ladies like May. Then they can learn from their experience and eventually become experienced themselves and able to work with farangs on their own.And for farang massage customers, it is a special experience to bang 'the inexperienced massage student' under the direction and supervision of the more experienced massage lady. Lady May's student isn't going to be doing it for the first time with every customer. But it will take some time for her to become experienced and able to work on her own. And in the meantime, it will be a special experience for May's customers to bang her very willing-to-learn 'student'. A supervised 'student' like that probably will let her horny guy take his time inside her pussy and/or ass at his own leisure without hurrying him up, the way some of the more professional ladies sometimes make you cum faster. I certainly would love to do it with a supervised 'student' like that where both I and she depend on the more senior experienced massage lady for our interaction. The student might not be the best at giving a good BJ. Her teacher would probably do it better. But when it comes to riding the lady, the student lady probably will be more patient with you and let you ride her just they way you like, not just to please you but to prove herself to her teacher too.
The MP girl just returned to Bangkok from spending 4 weeks with her folks in Chiangmai. She was so horny that she couldn't wait till her MP opened in the afternoon. So came to my room this morning. After the workout, she said she was not used to strong sex now after 4 weeks break and so would rest and only start work tomorrow.
SexWithSmile
01-18-10, 11:41
Probably there are some Thai P4P ladies who want to sex-work with farangs and make money that way. But they don't know any English or other foreign languages. And they don't have much experience in the massage business.But if they join the massage business as assistants to experienced ladies like May. Then they can learn from their experience and eventually become experienced themselves and able to work with farangs on their own.And for farang massage customers, it is a special experience to bang 'the inexperienced massage student' under the direction and supervision of the more experienced massage lady.Lady May's student isn't going to be doing it for the first time with every customer. But it will take some time for her to become experienced and able to work on her own. And in the meantime, it will be a special experience for May's customers to bang her very willing-to-learn 'student'. A supervised 'student' like that probably will let her horny guy take his time insI'de her pussy and/or ass at his own leisure without hurrying him up, the way some of the more professional ladies sometimes make you cum faster.I certainly would love to do it with a supervised 'student' like that where both I and she depend on the more senior experienced massage lady for our interaction. The student might not be the best at giving a good BJ. Her teacher would probably do it better. But when it comes to rI'ding the lady, the student lady probably will be more patient with you and let you rI'de her just they way you like, not just to please you but to prove herself to her teacher too.Fully agreed. Tulip and Snowwhite are specialist in recruiting shy Thai girls, who are quite happy to undergo the training and work in a well controlled environment for the prospect of making quite a decent money. Even if the average customers request much more than the usual go-go experience, the teacher brings some security.As for the BJ, I must say that she was quite biting. But we can redress the situation with a smiling remark, and the teacher will instruct her accordingly. I do not wish to make her shy.As for Miss May, I always found her a very enthusiastic teacher. If we get married, we should all bring to her our wives.Cheers,SWS
PorkLobster
01-18-10, 16:24
La Belle has recently introduced Farang surchage (which really means surcharge for all guys that are not East Asian looking).Its 1000 Baht.They always had a 500 baht surcharge, didn't they? At least, that's what I had to pay when I was there a year ago, when it was brand new.Curiously, their English homepage doesn't mention any surcharge at all.
Satrai2000
01-18-10, 20:33
I've visited the Homm massage and SPA which is adjusted to the Soprano club. I went there because there web site was specially mentioning massage for gentlemen and I've read in another forum that some very pretty girls are there. I have to say that it was one of the biggest rip offs I've ever had in Bangkok. The place is really strange. First you are allowed to choose the girl (which I've done). Then you are accompanied to a very nice room that has a double bed and not the special massage tables. At this moment you have the impression that at least a HJ is offered for the 1350 Baht aromatherapy massage and maybe other services are negotiable. The girl asked me to take a shower, she left the room and when she came back she started giving me a very average (even below average) massage. In the middle of the session I've tried to open a discussion and I've said that the 1350 price is quite expensive for just an aroma massage. She told me that massage is the only thing that it is offered. Despite this I've tried (when I was laying in my back) very politely, to signal her that I needed at least a HJ and I've tried to expose my genital area when she was massaging my leg. Immediately she covered me with the towel and she seemed offended. Of course I didn't made any other attempt and we just finished the massage and I left. As I said is not only the absence of any additional service that pissed me of but also the fact that the massage was very very average and extremely expensive. My advise: do not go there!Homm is a "high-so" massage-place and they DO NOT offer special services.Don't feel offended but I think it was wrong exposing your private parts to her after she told you that massage is the only thing offered. An unwritten rule. There is a reason why those girls work there and not in a "naughty" mp.On the other hand: I can understand your feelings because I also felt frustrated the first time I went there. A very pretty girl who didn't offer specials. Damn.
Soi Walker
01-19-10, 02:35
I?ve written about her (see my post on 10 January), recommending her, and so I decided I had to make sure the recommendation still holds. And it does. She remembered my face, and she remembered the particulars of the massage four or five months ago; one aspect about it was unique and it proved her memory. She had just returned from Pitsanulok and was fresh and ready for fun.Just to make sure, I asked if I was her first customer, as it was about 3 PM and I like the girls fresh and ready for frenzy. She honestly replied ?No.? So I had to ask if the first customer paid for special, as I wanted to assess her energy level. She said it was HJ only. I decided to accept the answer even though I had lingering doubts, though I planned to evaluate her energy level as we got into it. I was convinced before too long.Her skin is very light, her smile is wide and delightful, and she has a playful way about her that keeps you wondering what she?ll do next. Actually, she?ll do almost anything. Mind you, I don?t ask for much, other than 90 minutes of naked body massage using every soft part she has. She?s a willing partner, unlike one at a soi 31 shop last week who complained, ?Two hours hand and pussy massage? I don?t know I can. Do special now.?I knew I was going to have a great time when Ying changed position to start lip massaging my boys and Willie, who was now standing guard over them. She straddled my left leg and positioned her pussy right on top of my ankle bone. I didn?t have to ask if that had been intentional because in a few moments it was confirmed by the moist coating that now covered the ankle bone.The rest is personal and probably a bore to readers anyway, except to say that I think she doesn?t get into it this much with everyone. However, if she knows you?re going to reward her, and believes you enjoy her more for her smile and bright eyes than for her massage talent, she?ll give you the same treatment.One guy obviously liked her a lot, as he paid out-service rates of 2,500 per day to the shop, plus 2,500 per day to her for a three-day beach vacation, and then tipped her 15,000 for the three days on top of that. I don?t think she was making up the details, as she had no reason to think I was shopping for a price for a three-day date, just answering my question about her favorite types of customers.If you?re interested, please know that she?s probably close to 30; her breasts are a little soft, but a good handful nevertheless; her hips are a little wide, but she makes a fine flesh pillow. Some guys don?t like white skin, so keep that in mind. Ying even said that the Japanese customers prefer dark girls, something I did not know. I told her I told some friends (readers of this forum, though she thinks ?personal friends?) about her, so if anyone feels like building on a connection, tell Ying you heard about her from Henry (I don?t get anything of value in return, just maybe confirmation that someone is reading and using the information I post here).Henry is just my nom de rue for this posting, taken from the old Herman?s Hermits song about Henry the Eighth. This was my second verse with Ying, and it was just as good as the first.Soi WalkerEDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
homm is a "high-so" massage-place and they do not offer special services.don't feel offended but i think it was wrong exposing your private parts to her after she told you that massage is the only thing offered. an unwritten rule. there is a reason why those girls work there and not in a "naughty" mp.on the other hand: i can understand your feelings because i also felt frustrated the first time i went there. a very pretty girl who didn't offer specials. damn.yes i agree it was not very clever from my side; but it was a last attempt. just to clarify i didn't exposed my private parts; i just tried to move a bit the towel. in any case it still doesn't make sense to me how this place exists. i've been in many spas (including up-scale places) and served by very beautiful ladies and i never tried to get something more than a massage. but the whole setting in these spa was very clear and comprehensive. when you read a website that claims that their massage parlour is a place specialised in "serving gentlemen" and in were "beautiful and well trained therapists will treat you" you expect something more. on top of this when the receptionists ask you to choose a girl and when the room is set up as a hotel room with a double bed then you are almost sure that extra is offered.so my whole point is that homm massage really cheats the clients and probably it is very successful on doing this since it is still in business.
Revisited this old school cheap MP yesterday. Once the price was 800THB 5 years ago. Now they quoted me 1200THB. Still one of the cheapest in BKK i guess.Girl quality was ok.
PorkLobster
01-20-10, 08:44
Is there any good oily that stays open even after midnight? Or alternatively, some place that opens early, say at 9 in the morning?I know that most places seem to be open from 11 to 11 or so, but are there any worthwhile exceptions?Thing is, I'll be passing through Bangkok in two weeks time, but my flight arrives rather late in the evening, and then I have to be back again at the airport around noon the next day. It would be nice to be able to squeeze in a session, though.
M P Lurker
01-21-10, 14:15
Today at 5.30PM La Belle had about 30 girls available and seemingly almost no customers. I've rarely seen such a good line up. I reckon 50% were doable.Still hard to reccomend for Farangs due to price policy but good for guys of east Asian appearance or for guys where price is not a major concern.
Today at 5.30PM La Belle had about 30 girls available and seemingly almost no customers. I've rarely seen such a good line up. I reckon 50% were doable.Still hard to reccomend for Farangs due to price policy but good for guys of east Asian appearance or for guys where price is not a major concern.Do you think the extra fee is scaring off customers? From your(?) and other reports, this seems like a higher class MP. It would be a shame for greed to kill a good thing.Slim
Do you think the extra fee is scaring off customers? From your(?) and other reports, this seems like a higher class MP. It would be a shame for greed to kill a good thing.SlimIt's not only about greed. Who's willing to pay up to 40% more than other customers because of their ethnic background?Besides, La Belle is not known to be a place where service is consistent. I'd gladly pay 2K for a lottery ticket but 4-5K? I don't think so...
It's not only about greed. Who's willing to pay up to 40% more than other customers because of their ethnic background?Besides, La Belle is not known to be a place where service is consistent. I'd gladly pay 2K for a lottery ticket but 4-5K? I don't think so...Sorry Slim, I've just realised that you were probably referring to La Belle owners' greed. My bad.
Ralph Kramden
01-22-10, 13:52
If 50% are doable, or about 15, then that is not a bad deal in my opinion. Thanks to MPL's intelligence gathering we know your real price is 2700 plus a 500 tip. LaBelle's facilities are among the best available. That compares favorably to other MPs.
M P Lurker
01-22-10, 14:17
Do you think the extra fee is scaring off customers? From your(?) and other reports, this seems like a higher class MP. It would be a shame for greed to kill a good thing.SlimWell of course. Now that Farang surcharge has gone up to 1K its going to reduce Farang customers. I think they are crazy to do this without enough business to keep all the girls busy. But this is LOS. Who can fathom?I believe cheapest girls are 2200 but 1K extra for farangs.
Is there any good oily that stays open even after midnight?Dream Heaven Massage just down Soi 33 is open until 02:00. You can get take-out from there as well. www.dhm33.com
Well of course. Now that Farang surcharge has gone up to 1K its going to reduce Farang customers. I think they are crazy to do this without enough business to keep all the girls busy. But this is LOS. Who can fathom?I believe cheapest girls are 2200 but 1K extra for farangs.I wouldn't go to a massage place with a farang surcharge, unless they have a lady I'd really like to get acquainted with in the private room. But I can see why some massage places might want to discourage farangs from coming to their place. A lot of farangs aren't very good at foreplaying the ladies and preparing them for the fuck. Which can result in sex-injuries for the ladies due to excessive friction between a poorly lubricated condom and the lady's dry, unexcited pussy. And I'm not joking here. I'm ashamed to say that I've been guilty of some poor foreplay like that which has led to condom-related sex-injuries for the lady. I know this for sure because I've staid with my lady long enough to know. Perhaps Asian, non-farang customers have smaller dicks. Or more likely, they might be better at foreplaying the lady before having sex with her. And that's why they are more welcome at massage places than farang customers are.It doesn't take a genius to understand that the lady needs good foreplay too and not just the guy. But a lot of farang customers simply have a poor attitude towards the ladies. They think that since they are paying the lady. Then it's up to the lady to please them. And they don't care to do much for the lady.Of course, there is nothing to stop the lady from masturbating herself to prepare herself for the guy. But that's pretty hard to do, when the farang demands undivided attention from the lady for his own pleasure. And a lot of massage ladies are either too shy to masturbate themselves in front of the guy, or they don't understand well enough that this is a good way to avoid condom-related sex-injuries.
M P Lurker
01-23-10, 06:39
But I can see why some massage places might want to discourage farangs from coming to their place. A lot of farangs aren't very good at foreplaying the ladies and preparing them for the fuck. Which can result in sex-injuries for the ladies due to excessive friction between a poorly lubricated condom and the lady's dry, unexcited pussy. And I'm not joking here. I'm ashamed to say that I've been guilty of some poor foreplay like that which has led to condom-related sex-injuries for the lady. I know this for sure because I've staid with my lady long enough to know. My information from Thai girls is that some Farangs (but not all) are far better at forplay than Thai men. Thai men do not do DATY in general.e.g. A Thai girl that really likes kissing (as much as Brazil girls) and DATY and is slow to come. She says she has no use for Thai men at all. Certain Farangs however are excellent for her.Condoms require lubrication. Lube gel to avoid friction is important even if girl is very wet.
My information from Thai girls is that some Farangs (but not all) are far better at forplay than Thai men. Thai men do not do DATY in general.e.g. A Thai girl that really likes kissing (as much as Brazil girls) and DATY and is slow to come. She says she has no use for Thai men at all. Certain Farangs however are excellent for her.Condoms require lubrication. Lube gel to avoid friction is important even if girl is very wet.The most effective way to sexually excite a lady is to masturbate her with a well-lubricated hand. Because everyone has a lot more control and skill in his hand for touching and massage than in his tongue, which isn't designed for this kind of thing.And masturbating the lady with a well-lubricated hand is what Asians do a lot more than DATY.I don't think any Thai lady would be stupid enough to say to her farang customer than she likes Asian or Thai men more. Of course she will always say to her farang man that he is a good man in bed, even when this isn't true.As for the use of lubricants, I found from my experience that they are no substitute for good foreplay for the lady. Because water-based lubricants dry out quickly. At best, such lubricants only assist natural lubrication from the lady but they can't substitute for it. And lubrication isn't the only thing good foreplay does for the lady. The lady's pussy expands and changes shape to accommodate sex, when the lady gets sexually excited. And that's not something any artificial lubricant can help the lady with.
Can anyone suggest after what time shall one visit the MPs in order to get a good selection of ladies. Are the places fully working in th mornings or the selection of ladies grows at afternoon.Thanks all
La Belle has recently introduced Farang surchage (which really means surcharge for all guys that are not East Asian looking). Its 1000 Baht.500 to the girl (Farang cock tax), and500 to the management (Farang discrimination tax).Perhaps they believe management is compensated when girl is away from work with a damaged pussy.The starting price for East Asians is 2200 I believe, and so 3200 Baht up for Farangs.If you (non East Asians) normally tip the girl an extra 500, then you don't need to any more, as she will get it automatically via the surcharge. Normally, Farangs tip better than Asians.Glad I got in there before they introduced the extra 500. 1K is just too much in my opinion.
Member #4698
01-23-10, 15:09
1K is just too much in my opinion.?Discrimination is a sociological term referring to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.?I am against organized boycotts on principal since I believe in free markets. It may sound controversial to some, but I think La Belle has every right to charge whatever they want. By the same logic, I have every right not to contract for their services. This 1000bt extra charge based on ethnic origin is too much for me to swallow and I am sure it is too much for the vast majority of readers. I for one will not continue to spend my hard earned dollars in La Belle. There are too many other places that value my patronage.Students of economic discrimination theory know that those firms that practice discrimination in either labor relations (hiring) or customer relations lose their competitive advantage in the long run and are forced to end their discrimation practices or go out of business. It won't bother me if La belle goes out of business. The economic pressure may already be occurring. How many girls where unengaged at 5:30pm? They want to discriminate against us, I say let them! Let?s see how long they stay profitable and in business.
Traveler1234
01-23-10, 15:36
Can anyone suggest after what time shall one visit the MPs in order to get a good selection of ladies. Are the places fully working in th mornings or the selection of ladies grows at afternoon.Thanks allMany of us like to go btw 4:30-5:30pm. Most of the girls will start at that time and you get first pickings.
Ken_Apples
01-24-10, 15:42
Gents!I have been following the thread looking for the 2010 prices on La Belle and The Lord establishment.As there is reports about farrang taxes implied now, what is the farrang prices at these places?And also - as farrang tax is implied, does that means tipping is included in the price now?Some clarification on this matter would be great.Thanks in advance, Ken Apples.
well, unfortunately, Ken - the "ra-ka farang" (falang price) is just an add-on BECAUSE we falang have more money, It goes in line with the Thai park charges (where they print out the THAI price in WORDS, which some of us CAN read). The "tip" isn't really included since the house gets the increase.
Actually, I think the girl gets 500 and the house gets 500 of the 1,000 baht surcharge.
well, unfortunately, Ken - the "ra-ka farang" (falang price) is just an add-on BECAUSE we falang have more money, It goes in line with the Thai park charges (where they print out the THAI price in WORDS, which some of us CAN read). The "tip" isn't really included since the house gets the increase.
I decided I was a bit restless and an Oily Visit was in order.First called in a Geisha Massage. Unfortunately the very cute Guitar is long gong. Two girls in the picture folder looked O. K. So asked to meet the real thing. Unfortunately neither looked quite as good as their photoshopped pics, so I declined.Next went for a look at Thonglor 2. Found 3 girls in pic folder were looking cute: Bee, Boom, and Ga. Unfortunately Boom and Ga hadn't started work yet. A bit too early. So, never mind; Bee's pic was stunning. Mamasan called Miss Bee out. Oh my god. The real thing was well overweight, and had bad looking teeth. Nothing like her "model" pic at all. I just couldn't go with her as probably wouldn't be able to get it up.Time to move on. I really should check out "Mango Massage". June was the receptionist and she introduced me to? (I forget), Ice, Candy, and Bow. None were stunning, but Miss Bow had a naughty saucy look and a little darker skin than the others. So decided on Bow, a slim girl with quite small breasts.Nice blow job in the shower (Tulip style), followed by massage (also Tulip style). Her tits are not big so she uses her bottom and pussy to do the soft oily slide massage. Heavenly!Turns out she is a powerful girl even though small. The sex session was very vigourous in a variety of positions. She had no fear of doing damage to herself and would impale herself quite forcefully. Seemd to know the right technique to do it safely and seemed orgasmic too. By the end we were both somewhat legless.A performance equal to the famous super-stars of Tulip, but even more of a sexercise workout.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
well, unfortunately, Ken - the "ra-ka farang" (falang price) is just an add-on BECAUSE we falang have more money, It goes in line with the Thai park charges (where they print out the THAI price in WORDS, which some of us CAN read). The "tip" isn't really included since the house gets the increase.Yep, I always pay the Thai prices (the advantage of learning the Thai numbers).I simply refuse to pay the other price quoted and point the Thai price telling the girl what it says, also in Thai.99 times out of 100 they will say "ok" and you pay the Thai price. It is at their discretion.
Seems like these theree are somewhat similar in the services they provide. If I am looking for light skinned, curvy ladies (good size tits a must) that provide the proverbially great GFE service, which one would you recommend? Wish I had more time but since I am there only for a day, I will have to choose.Thanks in advance.
Seems like these theree are somewhat similar in the services they provide. If I am looking for light skinned, curvy ladies (good size tits a must) that provide the proverbially great GFE service, which one would you recommend? Wish I had more time but since I am there only for a day, I will have to choose.Thanks in advance.Not sure Thailand is the best place to find light-skinned, curvy entertainment providers but if you really need to be so picky about your specs, just go to the 3 places, the selection is not too big in each of these places and they're close to each other.
PorkLobster
01-26-10, 08:09
Dream Heaven Massage just down Soi 33 is open until 02:00. You can get take-out from there as well. www.Dhm33.comThanks!I think I went by there fairly late one night a year ago during a similar trip. At that time, there was only one girl available and she was not really my type so I passed (and went back to my hotel and slept, actually).But now I notice that DH has gotten some good reviews lately, so maybe I'll give it another try!
Soi Walker
01-27-10, 05:01
I decided I was a bit restless and an Oily Visit was in order.First called in a Geisha Massage. Unfortunately the very cute Guitar is long gong. Two girls in the picture folder looked O. K. So asked to meet the real thing. Unfortunately neither looked quite as good as their photoshopped pics, so I declined.Next went for a look at Thonglor 2. Found 3 girls in pic folder were looking cute: Bee, Boom, and Ga. Unfortunately Boom and Ga hadn't started work yet. A bit too early. So, never mind; Bee's pic was stunning. Mamasan called Miss Bee out. Oh my god. The real thing was well overweight, and had bad looking teeth. Nothing like her "model" pic at all. I just couldn't go with her as probably wouldn't be able to get it up.I have made the same observation, in many MPs, but especially between Sukhumvit soi 31 and soi 26. I actually believe they put someone else's picture in the album, or it's a picture from high school six to ten years ago.Now I insist on talking to the ladies first, "to check their English ability". Sometimes they bring out the whole troop for a visual check. I wrote about one experience recently, when I had to ask "Who is Golf? " and was really surprised with the hand went up.In particular, I agree with you about Geisha (first sub-soi off 33). Ryoko (alias, can't remember her real nickname just now) is the prettiest IMO, but still quite off the photo in the album. In fact, Mamasan/cashier would be my choice, but she doesn't do massage.
In particular, I agree with you about Geisha (first sub-soi off 33). Ryoko (alias, can't remember her real nickname just now) is the prettiest IMO, but still quite off the photo in the album. In fact, Mamasan/cashier would be my choice, but she doesn't do massage.Ryoko was one of the girls I called out. No where near her picture, so even she didn't pass my spec. I was urged to try the new girl "Taeng-mo" but I didn't call her out.Previously Guitar and Soda were both good looking but both gone now.I agree that the mamasan is stunning. I would gladly take her on any time. Its very annoying when they have a pretty tease girl out the front who cannot be taken.
?Discrimination is a sociological term referring to the treatment taken toward or against a person of a certain group that is taken in consideration based on class or category.?I am against organized boycotts on principal since I believe in free markets. It may sound controversial to some, but I think La Belle has every right to charge whatever they want. By the same logic, I have every right not to contract for their services. This 1000bt extra charge based on ethnic origin is too much for me to swallow and I am sure it is too much for the vast majority of readers. I for one will not continue to spend my hard earned dollars in La Belle. There are too many other places that value my patronage.Students of economic discrimination theory know that those firms that practice discrimination in either labor relations (hiring) or customer relations lose their competitive advantage in the long run and are forced to end their discrimation practices or go out of business. It won't bother me if La belle goes out of business. The economic pressure may already be occurring. How many girls where unengaged at 5:30pm? They want to discriminate against us, I say let them! Let?s see how long they stay profitable and in business.Asians and Thais are more welcome at some massage places than farangs are probably because a lot of farangs demand un-clean kind of sex from their Thai ladies.I've had a conversation about this with my Thai lady recently. And she told me that performing DATY or a blow-job makes you un-clean not just physically but spiritually too. "Buddha will not want to help you, when you do this", my Thai lady told me.Perhaps for non-Buddhist farangs this issue might sound trivial. But this certainly isn't trivial for many Thai ladies who really do believe that doing a blow job on a guy might condemn her to bad luck in this life and to a hellish after-life, when she dies.Masturbating the lady with your hand, and having her do a hand-job on you is okay according to Buddhist tradition. This is what many Thais and Asians do with their Thai massage ladies. And this makes them better than farang customers as far as many Thai massage ladies are concerned.
What a load of bollocks.Could you please point us all in the direction of the Buddhist text that says blowjobs are bad and handjobs are good?
Masturbating the lady with your hand, and having her do a hand-job on you is okay according to Buddhist tradition. This is what many Thais and Asians do with their Thai massage ladies. And this makes them better than farang customers as far as many Thai massage ladies are concerned.
M P Lurker
01-28-10, 04:59
Asians and Thais are more welcome at some massage places than farangs are probably because a lot of farangs demand un-clean kind of sex from their Thai ladies.I've had a conversation about this with my Thai lady recently. And she told me that performing DATY or a blow-job makes you un-clean not just physically but spiritually too. "Buddha will not want to help you, when you do this", my Thai lady told me.Perhaps for non-Buddhist farangs this issue might sound trivial. But this certainly isn't trivial for many Thai ladies who really do believe that doing a blow job on a guy might condemn her to bad luck in this life and to a hellish after-life, when she dies.Masturbating the lady with your hand, and having her do a hand-job on you is okay according to Buddhist tradition. This is what many Thais and Asians do with their Thai massage ladies. And this makes them better than farang customers as far as many Thai massage ladies are concerned.Yes Thai men don't do DATY in general because its either "unclean" or they are too lazy. But many if not most Thai girls love it.But Thai men will happily receive a blow-job. O.K. Some Thai girls don't like BJ too. They may be too lazy or their jaw hurts or are scared you will come in her mouth, or the dick is smelly unclean. Buddhist principals is a silly excuse in my view.The Buddhist principals are: Don't drink alcohol, don't gamble, be faithful (don't fuck around), don't take drugs, don't associate with killing, etc.Most Thais are happily violating some or many of these principals on a daily basis. Mai bpen rai! :DSome religious principals (not just Buddhist) become very antiquated, and are outdated in the modern world.Its useless to tell girls they must not fuck before marriage and therefore have no requirement for birth control. That's why there are so many teenage pregnancies!So who cares about silly old fashioned beliefs about oral sex? I like oral a lot and like girls who are really into it too. Hand jobs don't interest me, probably because most are too firm or too fast for my liking. I will give the girl a hand job if she wants it, or more often a combined DATY with concurrent finger manipulation of the G spot. Girls usually love this once they trust you.Girls are often scared of putting a finger in due to being dirty or having sharp nails or hard skin. Receiving a good licking is less scary because your tongue is soft.Kissing on the mouth is actually more dangerous for passing on viruses than licking pussy or arse. But I like to kiss too. I am willing to take the risk.
Soi Walker
01-28-10, 08:30
That MP ladies working in FS shops are required by the shop owner/manager to do FS with any and every customer who wants it, that is, they have no choice in the matter?So says an Akane lady who walked with me from the food shop at the top of soi 33 back to the MP zone where Akane, Love, Dream and Teen are located. She probably noticed a lean and hungry look on my face as I caught up to her and her take-out bag of food. "Go where? " as she says in Thai. "Massage" I reply. "How about Akane? " she invites. "No, thank you, I don't like the system there, as I understand it. Is it true you do not have sex with customers? " That's right, and she explained that the owner there thinks it's bad for a girl to have too much sex. "You can decide how many each day, or maybe just two or three each week, up to you, " I countered. "No, not allowed. All the other shops make you sek every time. No choice. "Well, that is different from what a cashier at the Teen group (24/1 and 33) told me. She herself gave me really special massages more than several times, and she told me that she limits her special exercises to two per week.I'd like to know what you know or have heard.BTW, if I were an MP worker and could have Soi Walker every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, I would not put a limit on my special work.Happy walking to you.
What a load of bollocks.Could you please point us all in the direction of the Buddhist text that says blowjobs are bad and handjobs are good?I'm no expert on Buddhism. But my Thai lady is Buddhist. And she knows what she is talking about. Because her beliefs about this are consistent with the general principle of Buddhism, which considers lower parts of the body less clean than higher parts of the body. That's why pointing at someone with your foot is considered an insult in Thailand, and so is touching another person on the forehead with your hand.
Had a session with Bow this afternoon before reading your post. Not only I confirm all what you reported but I add that there is probably nothing that she is not willing (and happy) to do. Bow is not a beauty but she is undoubtly a great performer.
I decided I was a bit restless and an Oily Visit was in order.First called in a Geisha Massage. Unfortunately the very cute Guitar is long gong. Two girls in the picture folder looked O. K. So asked to meet the real thing. Unfortunately neither looked quite as good as their photoshopped pics, so I declined.Next went for a look at Thonglor 2. Found 3 girls in pic folder were looking cute: Bee, Boom, and Ga. Unfortunately Boom and Ga hadn't started work yet. A bit too early. So, never mind; Bee's pic was stunning. Mamasan called Miss Bee out. Oh my god. The real thing was well overweight, and had bad looking teeth. Nothing like her "model" pic at all. I just couldn't go with her as probably wouldn't be able to get it up.Time to move on. I really should check out "Mango Massage". June was the receptionist and she introduced me to? (I forget), Ice, Candy, and Bow. None were stunning, but Miss Bow had a naughty saucy look and a little darker skin than the others. So decided on Bow, a slim girl with quite small breasts.Nice blow job in the shower (Tulip style), followed by massage (also Tulip style). Her tits are not big so she uses her bottom and pussy to do the soft oily slide massage. Heavenly!Turns out she is a powerful girl even though small. The sex session was very vigourous in a variety of positions. She had no fear of doing damage to herself and would impale herself quite forcefully. Seemd to know the right technique to do it safely and seemed orgasmic too. By the end we were both somewhat legless.A performance equal to the famous super-stars of Tulip, but even more of a sexercise workout.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Yes Thai men don't do DATY in general because its either "unclean" or they are too lazy. But many if not most Thai girls love it.But Thai men will happily receive a blow-job. O.K. Some Thai girls don't like BJ too. They may be too lazy or their jaw hurts or are scared you will come in her mouth, or the dick is smelly unclean. Buddhist principals is a silly excuse in my view.The Buddhist principals are: Don't drink alcohol, don't gamble, be faithful (don't fuck around), don't take drugs, don't associate with killing, etc.Most Thais are happily violating some or many of these principals on a daily basis. Mai bpen rai! :D....The thing about this Buddhist belief is that doing DATY on the lady harms only you and not her. Because you defile your head by going down on her pussy. Which is why a Thai lady might not object to receiving DATY from you, as long as you are a stranger and your fate isn't intertwined with hers the way it would be if you were her husband.And the same is true for Thai men receiving a blow-job from the lady. The blow-job harms only the lady and not the guy. And as long as she is a stranger and not his wife, a Thai man might want to get a blow-job from the lady.And another thing to keep in mind is that breaking Buddhist prohibitions doesn't necessarily harm you permanently. You can undo the harm by doing something good, such as helping the poor, giving money and food for Buddhist monks, taking care of your parents, and many other things that involve some kind of sacrifice and expense for you.Which explains the farang surcharge at some massage parlors. The massage ladies who do blow-jobs for farangs have to spend money to undo the harm they've done to themselves. And due to this extra expense for massage ladies, they need to charge farangs more money than they charge Thais and Asians who don't demand blow-jobs.
Sorry to interrupt your sociological topic, but I have a more down-to-earth question.The mamasan at Dream Heaven (soi 33) calls herself Ying.Can someone pls describe her?Is she known, on occasion, to "help out" with a massage or more, when the other ladies are busy, or maybe just for fun?thanksDS
Member #3428
01-28-10, 14:14
Because her beliefs about this are consistent with the general principle of Buddhism, which considers lower parts of the body less clean than higher parts of the body.From my learnings, and it is all about what we are taught. Think you are mistaken about the oral sex parts of Buddhism. Buddhism has a habit to make lists of things, almost everything has a list, but surprisingly they are silent for a list about sexual acts. They do not say anything or put any details into accepted or unaccepted sexual acts. There is a statement to not crave sensual pleasure, refrain from committing sexual misconduct also. But there is no definition of what is sexual misconduct so it is left up to interpretations. It is a broad term and viewed differently by many. Hence some people can teach or be taught that oral sex, masturbation, anal sex etc.. is sexual misconduct. However... Buddhism is about showing love and caring... so if a person indulges in oral sex because of dissatisfaction with vaginal sex with their partner then that is a way to show love and affection and be supported under the principals. Again the scriptures are full of issues about sex in terms of power and desire but not about the physical acts of different ways of having sex. And like most religions you can play semantics and twist words around to make it fit what you want to believe. It's a can of worms and open to your own view points. But you can not say Buddhism says you are unclean if you have DATY or BJ. Your lady might have been taught it and believe that but it isn't listed out.
Guys,Does anyone know where one can get a good nuru prostate massage in BKK? Ogodo was a disappointment, I was told. Three friends are coming to LOS, brainwashed by Japanese colleagues, and want to try it.
From my learnings, and it is all about what we are taught. Think you are mistaken about the oral sex parts of Buddhism. Buddhism has a habit to make lists of things, almost everything has a list, but surprisingly they are silent for a list about sexual acts. They do not say anything or put any details into accepted or unaccepted sexual acts. There is a statement to not crave sensual pleasure, refrain from committing sexual misconduct also. But there is no definition of what is sexual misconduct so it is left up to interpretations. It is a broad term and viewed differently by many. Hence some people can teach or be taught that oral sex, masturbation, anal sex etc.. is sexual misconduct. However... Buddhism is about showing love and caring... so if a person indulges in oral sex because of dissatisfaction with vaginal sex with their partner then that is a way to show love and affection and be supported under the principals. Again the scriptures are full of issues about sex in terms of power and desire but not about the physical acts of different ways of having sex. And like most religions you can play semantics and twist words around to make it fit what you want to believe. It's a can of worms and open to your own view points. But you can not say Buddhism says you are unclean if you have DATY or BJ. Your lady might have been taught it and believe that but it isn't listed out.Perhaps you are looking at it too much from a Christian culture point of view. Unlike Christians who read the Bible, most Buddhists aren't in the habit of reading Buddhist scriptures. Buddhist monks read the scriptures and decide how to interpret them. While the rest consult the monks about the proper way to live.And when something isn't clearly and specifically defined in the scriptures and people ask questions about it. Then the monks decide on what to say according to the general principles of Buddhism. And as I've said earlier, one general principle of Buddhism is that lower parts of the body are less clean than higher parts of the body. And you can defile your head by excessive and deliberate contact with lower parts of the body, such as during oral sex.A good example of how Buddhists in Thailand deal with defilement is killing. Killing anything, including chickens and pigs, defiles the people who kill. And for this reason, butchers in Thailand usually have to compensate for their defilement by doing good deeds according to Buddhist traditions. Which includes sacrifice and expense for them. And butchers normally include this extra expense in the price they charge for killing and butchering animals.And it works the same way in massage parlors, when they include an extra charge for farangs for oral sex that defiles the ladies.
According to Dan7373's theory I should be able to pay the Asian rate at La Belle if I am not interested in BJ but only in DATY. I'm sure the papasan(s) will be keen on this debate too. Might be interesting to get a monk involved as well. Pretty much looking forward to it! :D
According to Dan7373's theory I should be able to pay the Asian rate at La Belle if I am not interested in BJ but only in DATY. I'm sure the papasan(s) will be keen on this debate too. Might be interesting to get a monk involved as well. Pretty much looking forward to it! :DThe massage ladies probably assume that all farangs want a blow-job from them. And they go right ahead with it, when they get a farang customer.Which means that you need to talk with the lady and persuade her that a blow-job isn't something you want from her. And the thing about doing DATY is that you might still defile the lady by doing DATY on her first and then kissing her on the cheeks and lips during the intercourse that follows. Which means that the lady might not trust you to keep it clean the way she would trust a Thai or an Asian man.
Soi Walker
01-29-10, 07:34
The mamasan at Dream Heaven (soi 33) calls herself Ying.Can someone please describe her?Is she known, on occasion, to "help out" for fun?ThanksDSThere might be more than one, but the one I know is thin, relatively tall, dark, has an oval face, bad facial complexion, and doesn't seem to smile. Wouldn't want her help (imo) and doubt she'd help for the fun of it.Next door has two cashiers, a man (English, I think) and Dtai (rabbit) who is friendly and charming.
PorkLobster
01-29-10, 16:00
Which means that the lady might not trust you to keep it clean the way she would trust a Thai or an Asian man.This surely seems a bit specious.The Japanese, who are both Asian and technically Buddhist, LOVE oral sex. A major part of the Japanese sex industry is specifically dedicated to oral sex, since (vaginal) intercourse for money is illegal - while oral (or for that matter, anal!) sex is not.The average Japanese mongerer would definitely expect both BJ and DATY, and preferably kissing too, but would still pay only the Asian rate.Has anybody actually asked the staff at La Belly why they raised the farang price? Perhaps they simply had a bunch of obnoxious hooligans coming in and ruining the fun for all the rest of us.
This surely seems a bit specious.The Japanese, who are both Asian and technically Buddhist, LOVE oral sex. A major part of the Japanese sex industry is specifically dedicated to oral sex, since (vaginal) intercourse for money is illegal - while oral (or for that matter, anal!) sex is not.The average Japanese mongerer would definitely expect both BJ and DATY, and preferably kissing too, but would still pay only the Asian rate.Has anybody actually asked the staff at La Belly why they raised the farang price? Perhaps they simply had a bunch of obnoxious hooligans coming in and ruining the fun for all the rest of us.Obviously, not all Buddhists are the same. Just like not all Christians are the same. Thai Buddhism is probably different from Japanese Buddhism in many ways. Just like Christianity in Sweden is different from Christianity in Mexico.Perhaps Japanese customers buy more drinks and tip the massage ladies a lot better than farang customers tip. And to make up for the difference, some massage places have introduced the farang surcharge.But your idea that some farangs are abnoxious and impolite is probably true too. I've passed through Japan a few times. And one thing that surprised me the most there was how polite the Japanese there were with me. Japanese are very polite, even more polite than Thais are. And Japanese expect similar politeness from those around them. Which means that farangs and Japanese customers at massage places don't mix well. Even one obnoxious farang can spoil the atmosphere for Japanese customers and turn them away. And for this reason, some massage parlors choose to serve only Asian and Japanese customers. And they discourage farangs from coming there by raising prices for them.I know of one bar in Pattaya (Suzie Bar on Soi 4) that specifically welcomes Japanese customers only. And farangs aren't welcome there, no matter how much they are willing to pay. And it makes sense that some massage parlors might want to specialize like that too.
Member #3428
01-30-10, 03:11
Obviously, not all Buddhists are the same. EXACTLY... Finally from your own mouth. So what your GF tells you might not be what everyone else believes, is taught, or understands. It is what she understands (or what she tells you) not necessarily what everyone else goes by. What you hear at one temple in Sisaket is not always what you hear at a temple in Surin. You can hear two totally different interpretations of the same thing by different monks. You want to accept and respect your ladies belief that is fine. But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!! The reason for the sur charge is not to clean the soul it is get extra cash because some guys are stupid enough to pay it. Yes many Farang are a larger size and sex more forceful and some guys are actually Sadists but the sur charge is because Farang's can pay it and many are just stupid enough to be like sheep and accept the charges. Must be fun to have a ring in your nose to be lead around by.
.... But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!! It's not so much about cleansing as it is about balancing out the bad with good. And doing good doesn't necessarily involve going to a Buddhist temple. Helping the old and the poor counts as good deeds too. And a lot of massage ladies do send their money home to help their parents and poor relatives. They are doing this not just as a duty but as good deeds that will bring them good luck from Buddha and will make their after-life better, when they die. That's where most of the sacrifice from massage ladies goes and not for Buddhist temples.
So any reports about massage joints or are we just going to rename the thread into Thai Buddhism 101?
Tricky3000
01-30-10, 06:53
EXACTLY... Finally from your own mouth. So what your GF tells you might not be what everyone else believes, is taught, or understands. It is what she understands (or what she tells you) not necessarily what everyone else goes by. What you hear at one temple in Sisaket is not always what you hear at a temple in Surin. You can hear two totally different interpretations of the same thing by different monks. You want to accept and respect your ladies belief that is fine. But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!! The reason for the sur charge is not to clean the soul it is get extra cash because some guys are stupid enough to pay it. Yes many Farang are a larger size and sex more forceful and some guys are actually Sadists but the sur charge is because Farang's can pay it and many are just stupid enough to be like sheep and accept the charges. Must be fun to have a ring in your nose to be lead around by.Everything absolutely spot on, Tansak. Good lord, this boring thread is dying a slow death.The only other thing I can add to the increased surcharge aspect is that it's 'very Thai': business goes down, and so owners raise the prices where they can to make up for the lost income, instead of dropping the price as a temporary promotion to increase volume to make up for the lost income. Funny how they end up losing more business when they raise the prices (and then go out of business completely).
Members requested to post their recommendations on traditional Thai massage places around Sukhumvit area. Any useful websites or links?
Members requested to post their recommendations on traditional Thai massage places around Sukhumvit area. Any useful websites or links?I can recommend Rosmarin on Soi22. No happy ends but great massages.http://rosemarin.com/Cheers
Member #3428
01-30-10, 09:02
Members requested to post their recommendations on traditional Thai massage places around Sukhumvit area. Any useful websites or links?The name is escaping me but there is a very legit and good thai massage off of Soi 22, in that little cut street that leads to Sazanka, Washington Square behind the old Mambo place. You can PM Giotto he turned me onto it years ago. It is, or can be, a very very strong and in depth thai massage that can actually hurt like an SOB but great to stretch you out. Friggin incredible compression and mobilization. But you'll probably want a follow up as you might be sore the next day and need more stretching afterwards if they really work you. King and I (soi 12 maybe) is a decent place for a Royal Massage but not as strong and their thai massage is only so so in my book. Asia Herb Society has three places in BKK, one is on Soi 24 but that is better as a more package and lighter massage. A good couples massage place. But for the most part, I've gone into a few little massage places and found good folks that really know how to use their angles and such to stretch the heck out of me. I'm assuming you want only a THAI massage not a sports massage or oil massage or such. You can hit up I think Wat Po for a few hours of a massage as well.
EXACTLY... Finally from your own mouth. So what your GF tells you might not be what everyone else believes, is taught, or understands. It is what she understands (or what she tells you) not necessarily what everyone else goes by. What you hear at one temple in Sisaket is not always what you hear at a temple in Surin. You can hear two totally different interpretations of the same thing by different monks. You want to accept and respect your ladies belief that is fine. But please do not tell folks that DATY and BJ by a foreigner will defile a lady and she must go to temple to cleanse herself such the reason for extra farang sur charges. A good number of working girls do not even go to temple except for their temple at their HOME, so you are telling me they save up a sur charge for 1,000 customers until they go home and donate it all to their local temple just to cleanse themselves? Total Bollocks!! The reason for the sur charge is not to clean the soul it is get extra cash because some guys are stupid enough to pay it. Yes many Farang are a larger size and sex more forceful and some guys are actually Sadists but the sur charge is because Farang's can pay it and many are just stupid enough to be like sheep and accept the charges. Must be fun to have a ring in your nose to be lead around by.Wait, hold the phone, you mean to say that these people make shit up as they go along? And, not only that, they make shit up as they go along to make extra money utilizing nefarious means to do so? Wow, amazing! Now there's a new concept. Tansak KTV, I like the way you use the word 'stupid', well done! ;)
First things first, my thanks to MP Lurker for his advise, may he live long and his tribe multiply.Session 1: Colonze 2 at Ratchada Road.Wanted to start of with a nuru nuru experience before covering the soapies and the oilies so hopped over from the Holiday Inn to Colonze2There are two things good about this place, it does not add a taxi driver surcharge for showing up in a taxi, it is away from the main road and does not attract too many people.Entered and saw 3/4 side liners at 2500 THB and 3/4 fish bowl at 1900 THB 2 hours. Nuru Nuru Surcharge is 500 THB and only a few ladies from the fishbowl do it. Selected No 448, about 5'7" with a well endowed body and a not so so good face.Made the payment, was taken up to a room, lots of action while waiting to get the room setup, it was kind of exciting doing heavy petting and fondling while a legion of maids kept walking in and out bringing stuff.On to the service that consisted of a heavenly BBBJ getting undressed, BBBJ and 1 load CIM + Swallow while getting soaped, 1 more BBBJ + CIM on the open table with the nuru gel.Was not quite sure that I would rise up to the occasion a third time, but was taken on to the bed that had a huge towel on it. More nuru gel was lathered on and the slippery slide game began.Managed to rise to the occasion a third time given the enthusiastic performance and lots of oral stimulation. Did it MISH + Cowboy and then again a BBBJ + COF for the finale.Cost : Fishbowl 1900 + Nuru 500+ Tip 1500Body: 8/10Face: 6/10Performance: 10 /10The sheer dedication and enthusiasm was amazing, 3 times in 2 hours without pharmaceutical assistance is priceless. Staggered out and got a dry hump in the lift but all i could think of was to go to sleepThe place is highly recommended, however YMMV.
Ended up going to Nataree based on the advice of a friendly german I met today.Reached there in a taxi about 5 PM to find an assortment of about 10 girls. I was met by a somewhat over aggressive papasan who wanted me to pick one fast without taking my sweet time. Really did not like it.The quality of women was good, a number of 8/10 were on display. Chose one and papasan quoted 3500 THB, and the girl was not even a sideliner or a model. I told him that he needs to get his eyes checked and walked away.Outside I found the same taxi and driver that I had taken. Probably was waiting for his cut. The quality of girls at nataree is 2 steps above most places but one has to wade through a lot of crap once you get in.
Traveler1234
01-30-10, 15:48
Members requested to post their recommendations on traditional Thai massage places around Sukhumvit area. Any useful websites or links?Celfle - Soi 33, opp The Office - in the small soi across from Livingstone's LodgeTotally legit, excellent place
I Am Wondering Where I Can Get A Very Good Massage That Leads Up To An Explosive Handjob? I Am Not Looking For FS Or BBBJ But A Real Seductive Massage And A Hot Handjob. Please Tell Me Any Places That Do This.EDITOR's NOTE: This report was originally written in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING and thus it was edited tonormal case lettering. In the future, please do not write reports in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING. Thanks! ====================================== Hi Thickcumm, I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but... Would you please refrain from WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS! It's difficult to read and it's time consuming to fix. On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You! Jackson
Here's one I don't mind mentioning. I went by Snow White last night and was told they have some new girls who weren't in the album yet. I scanned the album and asked about the new ones, and in a few moments had a lineup of 5 or 6 candidates (including some album girls) standing by the counter. I picked the one said to have started on that very day, June, clearly a bit nervous and unsure of herself. She was sternly told "borigaan dee dee" before we left the counter. She's 23 and has a son, but she's quite lovely, tall for a Thai girl, sweet boobs, and anxious to do everything right. Wouldn't let me take my own shoes off, folded my socks, and so on. Her face became quite flushed during our workout, and her breathing and responsiveness made me cum much sooner than I thought I would. She decided that I was jai dee, and from then on it was just a dream of gentle playfulness. I found her accent quite hard to understand. I guess she speaks more broad Isaan than I'm used to. If I understood her right, she's been working in a factory sorting car parts for 9 years, with a fake ID. Her husband left her a month ago, and I guess she just thought it's time for a change and a chance at some money. She said "cheewit puying thai naasongsarn" (the life of a woman in Thailand is pitiful), but of course in a resigned Buddhist kind of way, not making it sound like a sob story. We were done a few minutes early, and she asked me to wait until the time was up so that she wouldn't get scolded.Guys who can treat a girl nicely, and like beauty more than pornstar service, should be happy with June. Oh, on the way out after affirming that June's service left nothing to be desired, I was asked to pay again. When I said that I had already paid beforehand the response was oh, yes, of course, but I'm sure many guys must have paid a second time in the heady daze of afterglow. ;-)
Ralph Kramden
02-02-10, 13:06
Boy did they see you coming at Nataree. By my reckoning the taxi driver's tip was going to be 1300 Bht.Nataree is less than a five minute walk from a subway stop. And had you really RTFF you could have sauntered over to Hi-Class and got your rocks off for 1700 with a decent looking lass who more than likely would have given you pretty good service.
.... I picked the one said to have started on that very day, June, clearly a bit nervous and unsure of herself. She was sternly told "borigaan dee dee" before we left the counter. She's 23 and has a son, but she's quite lovely, tall for a Thai girl, sweet boobs, and anxious to do everything right....Guys who can treat a girl nicely, and like beauty more than pornstar service, should be happy with June.... The better looking the lady is, the less skill she needs to please the guys. Because when the lady has a really nice body. Then guys naturally prepare themselves and her for the ride by groping her nice body. The groping is foreplay for her. And her good looks alone are exciting enough to arouse most guys for the ride with her. All she needs is a good attitude in terms of letting the horny guy grope her and willingness to spread her legs with a nice smile for him, when she is ready to fuck as a result of all that groping and heavy petting from him.June sounds like a pretty good lady to see, despite her lack of experience. She has the looks. And she is willing to please. And as long as you are willing to be the top guy and do most of the sex-work with her. Then you are bound to have a good time with her.
Virgin Lover
02-08-10, 06:45
With a few days in Bangkok, I went to Annies (I posted my review on the Annies section). I checked out Mango, Snow White and Tulip, which got a lot of reviews on here, but the selection just wasn't to my taste. While checking out Snow White, I saw the sign for Thonglor II, next to the Emporium shopping mall. Little did I know that I'd like the look and services provided that I try 3 of the girls, on 3 different sessions.I must say that the facilities are very nice and clean. Must better than some of the others I saw or tried. My first session was a 90 minute oil massage for I think was 650 baht. Why pay more for a lotion or other type of massage, when you're there for the "special. "My first session was with "My". It looks like on the website she goes by the name of Keeta. The rooms are small, but nice, and the shower is clean. The girls provide you a free drink, if you didn't get one in the reception area. The standard operating procedure is for the girl to soap you up in the shower while they wear their bra and panties. After showering, I laid face down on the bed for the oil massage. The massage was relaxing and after a while, My asks me if I want the "special". She quoted me 2000 baht. I thought that was a bit much, but decided to go for it. If anyone else goes with her, I'd negotiate 1500 baht instead. Once the negotiations are done, the girl will shower herself (by herself). She then proceeded with a CBJ and Covered FS. She was okay. As I mentioned in my Annie's post, it takes me a long time to finish, so with time up, I had to go without finishing. Again, not her fault. My had a nice little body. I didn't expect a Covered BJ, but I was okay with it.My next session a few days later was with Rung. The standard drink and showering at the start, then after the massage, she quoted me 1500 baht for the "special". Rung had tiny breasts, but she had a nice tight body and a cute face. She had a good attitude, and I enjoyed her company. She started with a BBBJ and CFS. Again, to my dismay I was able to last, but not finish. She asked if I wanted more time, so she quoted me 200 baht for 45 more minutes. Still couldn't finish, but enjoyed my time with Rung. She let me take some photos of her when I offered her 200 baht. I may post later.On my last day in BKK, I arranged to have Max meet me at my hotel. By the way, I found a great deal for the Le Meridien on Surawong road across the street from Patpong for only $91 a night. Anyway, I wasn't sure if the Le Meridien was girl friendly, so I met her outside the Tawana Hotel so we could walk in together. I'm asian, so it would be less conspicuous. Nobody noticed, nor did they stop her for her ID. The price for take-out service was 3000 baht, split 50/50 between the girl and the shop (for 2 hours). Max spoke good english. She had gone to the university and was married before. She said Thai men "no good. " She likes Singapore/Asian customers as Europeans can be too big. She said she doesn't like hotels because reception gives her a hard time. She's actually funny and talkative. While having sex, she makes a face and said she smells garlic, like someone cooking with it, not my breath. We were in a nice hotel, so doubt someone was cooking.Anyway, we took a shower (both naked this time). We washed each other, then proceeded with the massage. The "special" was included in the price. Went the massage was done, she took another quick shower and lowered the lights, "because she was shy. " She started with a quick BBBJ then covered for some cow girl. She said she liked being on the bottom, so we switch to missionary and a few other positions. Was getting tired, so she took the condom off and proceeded with a BBBJ and a HJ. FINALLY, I was able to finish.We showered and she had to rush out, as she had to go back to the shop to give them their split of the baht.Anyway, I would highly recommend the girls at Thonglor II. The girls are cute and accomodating, though YMMV and everyone has a different definition of cute. I checked out Thonglor I as well. The girls there were limited, but they could have been occupied. I checked out the book for both locations, and I preferred the girls at Thonglor II.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
I went to Naree Massage in Soi 4 a while ago and have a great time with a lady called Meaw. Anyone knows about her contact since she is no long in the shop. I would to see her again when I am in Bangkok next.
Yesterday was a slow day so I decided to see what fun could be had in the afternoon. Went to the fruit place called Mango off soi 24. It had been recommended to try Bo. As I entered a little lady walk up to me and asks if I want a massage. Sure I do, what is your name. My name is Bo. Great, just who I was looking for. 600 baht for 1 1/2 hours. Upstairs and offered a drink. Water was fine and out the door she goes. Soon a knock and the water is delivered. Bo returns with her basket. She helps me get undressed and proceeds to get naked herself. Into the shower we go. After applying the soap and water she squats down and applies a lip lock. In and out and all around. Meanwhile the water from the shower is streaming onto her pussy. I bet that felt good to her and helped her get the juices flowing. On to the bed and the massage of the legs. Not bad I am thinking. Soon she applies the cat bath and all areas were covered that needed to be covered. On to the flip. She starts with the feet and moves up. Soon she is into the lip lock again. She turns around as I had started playing with her pussy. A little DATY and she is ready for the main course . On goes the cover and away we go. She has it all to offer and does so. I decline the ass but continue with the rest. After we finish we again head to the shower and clean up. I must admit this lady is average looking but has a cute smile. A small body but very nice. The really ggod part is she gives one of the best bj's I have had. The FS was also great. Again, attitude plays a big part and this girl has a wonderful idea of what service should be like. She must have worked in customer service before and was wel trained.
MrSunnyHills
02-09-10, 13:28
Nice Report Macklin,What tip did you leave?Thanks, Mr. S
Yesterday was a slow day so I decided to see what fun could be had in the afternoon. Went to the fruit place called Mango off soi 24. It had been recommended to try Bo. As I entered a little lady walk up to me and asks if I want a massage. Sure I do, what is your name. My name is Bo. Great, just who I was looking for. 600 baht for 1 1/2 hours.Upstairs and offered a drink. Water was fine and out the door she goes. Soon a knock and the water is delivered. Bo returns with her basket. She helps me get undressed and proceeds to get naked herself. Into the shower we go. After applying the soap and water she squats down and applies a lip lock. In and out and all around. Meanwhile the water from the shower is streaming onto her pussy. I bet that felt good to her and helped her get the juices flowing.On to the bed and the massage of the legs. Not bad I am thinking. Soon she applies the cat bath and all areas were covered that needed to be covered.On to the flip. She starts with the feet and moves up. Soon she is into the lip lock again. She turns around as I had started playing with her pussy. A little DATY and she is ready for the main course. On goes the cover and away we go. She has it all to offer and does so. I decline the ass but continue with the rest.After we finish we again head to the shower and clean up. I must admit this lady is average looking but has a cute smile. A small body but very nice. The really ggod part is she gives one of the best BJ's I have had. The FS was also great.Again, attitude plays a big part and this girl has a wonderful idea of what service should be like. She must have worked in customer service before and was wel trained.
I left her a 500 baht tip. I felt it was a good tip but not unreasonable. She seemed very happy with it. But remember to leave what you think it was worth.
M P Lurker
02-12-10, 08:30
I left her a 500 baht tip. I felt it was a good tip but not unreasonable. She seemed very happy with it. But remember to leave what you think it was worth.What about the 1500 minimum expected for FS? She would not be happy to make a total of 500.
Tricky3000
02-12-10, 09:09
What about the 1500 minimum expected for FS? She would not be happy to make a total of 500.The discussion was about tip, not the provider's service fee. Of course the girl wouldn't let someone walk away without paying that.
I was in BKK last week for a few days, but because of business commitments I only had random times available to pursue mongering. I ended up sampling Mango, Tulip, and Snow White. All three visits were terrific experiences, with rock-my-world sex in each session. When I visited Mango, Ms Nestle was there and was happy enough to see me that ? just for a moment ? I thought I?d tempt her to join me at my hotel. But life is filled with disappointment, right? She chose well for me from among the available ladies, however.At Snow White, I had a great session with one of the girls who reminds me a lot of a miniature Nong ? which is a heckuva compliment. Really pretty, nice figure, GREAT in bed.I missed having any time with my favorite flower girl but it couldn?t be helped. Next time?. ~TTG
Member #4537
02-12-10, 14:40
What about the 1500 minimum expected for FS? She would not be happy to make a total of 500.I don't think there is any 'minumum' expected but you just have to leave some kind of tip if you do FS, or 'special'. I went with Ice yesterday and gave 1000 baht for 2 shots and she seemed genuinely pleased.By the way, I have to say her looks are dissapointing. She looks nothing like she does on the site and they did some heavy Photoshop work. And to whoever said in an earlier post that she was 27 was wrong, because she told me she was 32.
I don't think there is any 'minumum' expected but you just have to leave some kind of tip if you do FS, or 'special'. I went with Ice yesterday and gave 1000 baht for 2 shots and she seemed genuinely pleased.By the way, I have to say her looks are dissapointing. She looks nothing like she does on the site and they did some heavy Photoshop work. And to whoever said in an earlier post that she was 27 was wrong, because she told me she was 32.
I left her a 500 baht tip. I felt it was a good tip but not unreasonable. She seemed very happy with it. But remember to leave what you think it was worth.Now that's new to me! Some guys go to oilies, indulge in FS and don't give at least 1,5K ? I am genuinely wondering if this is really possible...
PorkLobster
02-12-10, 16:04
1. 5 K is certainly the standard rate for FS. Many of the oilies have homepages in Japanese, where this is often spelled out quite clearly.This is after all how the girls earn their money. They don't get a single baht of the "massage" fee. Any "tips" would be on top of the "special" charge.I was in Bangkok a few days ago and was talking with a girl (at Thonglor II) about these things. I asked her how often it happened that some naive guy walked in who didn't know the routine and just wanted a massage without any extras. Apparently it does happen, but not very often. "Maybe one in a hundred", she told me. And then there are the cops, of course, who request freebies.
The discussion was about tip, not the provider's service fee. Of course the girl wouldn't let someone walk away without paying that.I just wanted Mackin to be absolutely clear so that newbies wouldn't misunderstand completely.
I went with Ice yesterday and gave 1000 baht for 2 shots and she seemed genuinely pleased.No NOT pleased. All the girls will be told you are Cheap Charlie and to be avoided.
No NOT pleased. All the girls will be told you are Cheap Charlie and to be avoided.Not true, there is no choice in the matter, you are not made "avoided".I have given girls 1000 baht at times, based on their performance, if its not up to scratch its your right as a customer to pay accordingly.This is why I detest places where you are forced to pay up front and then have no come back in the event of poor performance or the girls trying to get you out early.Oilies are very simple, the girl gets 1500 baht for FS, you give it her when you leave. The price for time to the house is 400 baht for 1 hour, 600 baht for 1.5 hours and 800 baht for 2 hours.HOWEVER, if the girl turns out to be useless, you are within your right to call off the session, give her 500 baht and walk out.If you have FS but its lame and poor, you are within your rights to give her 1000 baht, explain you were not very happy, and leave.Do not get ripped off by bad service or high prices for standard service. You are the customer.
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