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Complaints about the price are to be expected, but 2 girls. 2 hours, and heavy drinking leads to a 12000b tab. But dude, I love the vivid descriptions: makes for a very pleasurable read. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
I fancy keeping my nuts in their little sack and not wearing them in my eye sockets.
My mucho bravado that I wear every day was napalmed by these girls I can see the smouldering wreckage of it on the floor and try not to step on it.
a smile that could melt tungsten and turn you soul inside out.
I engaged spunk mode 1000 and entered the blurry eyed zone of tranquillity and erupted.And my personal favorite:
I treat girls like princesses or priceless jewels I like to look after them and watch them glisten with sweat.
Cherry – Su was wonderful, though did not look like her photos, but just fine and dandy. Vodka has lost a little weight, has a young 20 year old's body and a less than 20 year old's mind / maturity (*). She now has a toy for in calls. Candy may have gained some weight.
Snow White – Nana was great as usual. June on the other hand was both beautiful, very good but her wise cracking big mouth may exceed her service.
Tulip- Go to that forum!
(*) A quick note here – I have gleaned from reading here that many of the ladies are working hard to make money to support their families. They may be making more than I thought or that is just not their 1st priority. Vodka pulls out a new iPhone 5 during our visit, which costs considerable more than. Well you fill in the blank. How can she afford that and need money for her family, too?
(*) A quick note here – I have gleaned from reading here that many of the ladies are working hard to make money to support their families. They may be making more than I thought or that is just not their 1st priority. Vodka pulls out a new iPhone 5 during our visit, which costs considerable more than. Well you fill in the blank. How can she afford that and need money for her family, too?Ha Ha! These girls are making good money okay Remember I was girl's 4th customer at 4:30PM. After 5 customers the girl may call it quits or keep going if still has any power left. Takes less than a week to pay off an iphone 5. However its possible they may be on a package to pay so much per month anyway rather than buy outright. To a young Thai girl, a smart phone and playing facebook, Youtube, Google+ etc, is a big priority. Certainly higher priority than the sick buffalo. LOL.
To some girls, having 64Gig of memory store on phone is very important too. LOL
Carpediemyes
08-17-13, 10:46
An iPhone is around 20, 000 baht. Many of these girls can make 75, 000 baht a month easily [2 customers per day]. So saving 10% each month will get them one of the best phones out there. But I agree, they should be more frugal if they have family that is in dire need of financial support from them. Logic and rationality are not traits of a typical massage or bar Thai girl.
I have gleaned from reading here that many of the ladies are working hard to make money to support their families.
They may be making more than I thought or that is just not their 1st priority. Vodka pulls out a new iPhone 5 during our visit, which costs considerable more than.
Well you fill in the blank. How can she afford that and need money for her family, too?
Streetwalker7
08-17-13, 12:13
An iPhone is around 20, 000 baht. Many of these girls can make 75, 000 baht a month easily [2 customers per day]. So saving 10% each month will get them one of the best phones out there. But I agree, they should be more frugal if they have family that is in dire need of financial support from them. Logic and rationality are not traits of a typical massage or bar Thai girl.I phones at 600$. LOL. Where do some of these girls who seemingly don't get customers get money to buy silicone implants. Do the family all save and look at it as some kind of investment?
Where's that Kumbu write-up on that Baccara girls finances. Thats one I'm waiting for. I'm interested in everthing but the sex. LOL.
I think you missed the point. Normally I am the doer and I like ladies that relax and go with the flow. Most do. However, Vodka was avoiding the foreplay and trying to get me to lie down so she could service me. Not what I like at all. Not my style. However I humoured her for a bit until I got bored, as her BBBJ was initially crappy and was about to leave. Things managed to improve after that but no real kissing, DATY avoided, etc. So it was not GFE and she did not want to be stimulated for first 40 mins at least. Appeared to start enjoying herself better once the sex got going.
By all means try, but as I said, much hotter and prettier girls are around. Take my tip and check out Bai-Fern at Yorimichi some day, if you don't need anal. Will stir your desires within seconds. She says likes Farangs a lot despite shop getting mainly Japanese.Thanks for the recommendation of lady Bai-Fern at Yorimichi Massage. I found their website, and they do have some ladies worth checking out. Their website is in Japanese, but if you are using the Chrome browser from Google, then it can automatically translate the whole website into English for you.
http://yorimichimassage.com/ladies
I really like Vodka's looks in her pictures at the Cherry Massage website. But as someone said, she lost some weight since those pictures were taken, and this changed her looks. Perhaps someone should tell her that she needs to eat more and gain some weight, which is normally easier than losing weight.
I've read some recent research where scientist have found that cocaine interferes with storage of body fat and often makes cocaine addicts look emaciated. I hope this isn't the problem with lady Vodka.
But the fact that lady Vodka started enjoying herself better once the sex got going is revealing in itself. She probably wasn't in the mood for sex at first, because she wasn't getting any foreplay for herself. But once she let you in between her legs for a ride with her, then she got some stimulation that aroused her sexually and got her to enjoy the sex with you.
I think women usually need more foreplay than men, even at the massage parlor, or perhaps I should say, especially at the massage parlor. Because it's hard for an attractive woman to get excited about a guy whom she doesn't know well and who might not be that good-looking either. You need to compensate for the less than arousing situation by giving the pretty lady some extra-arousing foreplay.
All hands with the lady's pussy and clit is the way I try to be to get her panting in heat with me. I think this works a lot better than cunnilingus, because your arms and hands are a lot more capable and versatile than your face and tongue is. You don't even need the lady to get into any special position for it. Because you can reach her clit with your fingers and hand from almost anywhere, as long as she is close to you. Sometimes I don't even wait for the lady to take off her panties with me. I just plunge my hand inside, find her clit and finger it, so that she already is a little flushed in the face and has a clitoral erection going by the time she is taking off her panties with me.
You are much more likely to get your way with the pretty lady, when she has to opt out rather than opt in. Because when you are already fingering her clit by the time she realizes it, then she is already feeling the pleasure while she is deciding whether to slap your hand away from her pussy and hurt your feelings in the process. More often than not, she will just let you continue, even though she might've said 'no' if you had asked her.
But with cunnilingus you usually need ask the lady to get into position for it, which makes it easy for her to say 'no'. A 'no' in this situation is more acceptable and less hurtful for you, than is slapping you hand way from her pussy, while you are fingering her clit. You are a lot less likely to get your way with cunnilingus, because you have to get the lady to opt into it rather than opt out, after you start doing it.
Momay and Eq from Snow White when I visited them about 3 months ago. Momay was fantastic and a real 3 holer pse.
I really like Vodka's looks in her pictures at the Cherry Massage website. But as someone said, she lost some weight since those pictures were taken, and this changed her looks.Its easy for girl to lose weight due to a lot of additional exercise on those stairs LOL. Vodka looks reasonably like the web pics, but has a rather big nose (I suppose its not strange for Isaan). The nose and small tits would be her weak points for looks. Otherwise pretty good, but no stunner.
I am tempted to try Su next time, even though a bit bigger than what I normally go for, or perhaps should see what Jenny looks like.
Bai-Fern still seems to be away sick, which is a disappointing. Hope it wasn't anything I did.
Cherry – Su was wonderful, though did not look like her photos, but just fine and dandy.okay Now we know what she doesn't look like, can you give us a bit more detail about what she looks like and what things she was really good at.
Traveler1234
08-17-13, 23:29
I am tempted to try Su next time, even though a bit bigger than what I normally go for,Not sure if appearance wise she meets your standard. But service wise, excellent.
Member #4698
08-18-13, 00:31
Not sure if appearance wise she meets your standard. But service wise, excellent.I am not sure if any of the girls on the web site meet my standards. It looks pretty borderline to me especially knowing the photos have been photo shopped. Apple, Ann, and Ploy look like possibilities, but I won't know for sure until I go there and see the girls in the flesh. Anyway it is good to know there are some talented performers at Cherry Massage. I am going to check the place out next time I am in BKK.
okay Now we know what she doesn't look like, can you give us a bit more detail about what she looks like and what things she was really good at.Thinner, and was PSE.
Ha Ha! These girls are making good money okay Remember I was girl's 4th customer at 4:30PM. After 5 customers the girl may call it quits or keep going if still has any power left. Takes less than a week to pay off an iphone 5. However its possible they may be on a package to pay so much per month anyway rather than buy outright. To a young Thai girl, a smart phone and playing facebook, Youtube, Google+ etc, is a big priority. Certainly higher priority than the sick buffalo. LOL.
To some girls, having 64Gig of memory store on phone is very important too. LOLI'm not just saying someone shouldn't be able to enjoy ones work, but come on, if they enjoy it that much, and some do, someone is charging too much or someone (s) are paying too much.
It looks liks Bo left Mango to switch to EZ2. http://www.ezmassagebkk.com/ladies/bow.html Maybe she got tired of multiple pops.
i'm not just saying someone shouldn't be able to enjoy ones work, but come on, if they enjoy it that much, and some do, someone is charging too much or someone (s) are paying too much.i am not sure i understand your point. its hard for the girl to keep enjoying when it gets to the 4th customer (in my case). that could explain why she was doing her best to not get too involved in it at first. perhaps that is not relevant to your point.
is it wrong for girls to make good or big money from something they enjoy doing? the more she seems to enjoy, the bigger the tips could be. there are rewards for great gfe i reckon. when i have really been raped by girls cowgirl when they are clearly moving for their own superior pleasure, i can really appreciate that too unless its just too forceful. lol i would never claim the girl should be paid less because she had good time. i just think she is lucky to be able to get her rocks off and make money too. some working girls (not confined to thais here) actually admit that they like sex more than the average girl, but while they cannot get pleasure from every session, they are able to have fun often enough.
i asked gaew at pink how often she actually gets to enjoy it. she replied usually every day at work at least once.
one slovak girl seemed exceptional horny one day (i had seen her a few times) and orgasmed very quickly, surprisingly. i asked her how come? she claimed she had already orgasmed with 3 different customers same day, which was even exceptional for her. this was a long time very expert pro, but a fairly honest girl not prone to bullshitting! must have been the horny time of month.
some guys have working girl gfs, and believe it, when gf says she and all her friends would never ever have a good time while working. ha ha! i am not believing these stories so easily. the special thing about thai working girls for me, is that such a good proportion of them are able to enjoy their work on occasions. some are secretly horny girls, especially if the bar girl has been away up country several weeks missing out on sex and has just got back.
It looks liks Bo left Mango to switch to EZ2.
http://www.ezmassagebkk.com/ladies/bow.html
Maybe she got tired of multiple pops.Never interested me once she had the boob job.
Never interested me once she had the boob job.+1 to that. Wasn't pretty enough to forgive the addition of coconuts.
Check out the new "Bambi" type Naam (from Surin) upstairs at Dollhouse. Slim and hot and I will repeat. Reminded me just a bit of your ex GF.
Traveler1234
08-18-13, 13:38
I am not sure if any of the girls on the web site meet my standards. .there are some talented performers at Cherry Massage. I am going to check the place out next time I am in BKK.My earlier comment was directed at Syzygies and Su, given I know him personally and mongered with him in years past. ;)
Based on my limited experience, most oilies offer service not looks. Girls that I've had good sessions weren't always the 'best lookers'. Soapies have larger selection of SYT but service isn't always match their looks. Only exception are the EZ girls, most are both 8/10 in looks and service. But they normally offer only shot.
Maybe I'm just getting old and lazy...LOL
YMMV.
Streetwalker7
08-18-13, 13:46
Based on my limited experience, most oilies offer service not looks.
YMMV.Beware you may have to be eliminated. LOL.
You letting the secret out of the bag. Based on my less limited experience than you I wholeheartedly agree. Lookers with service is like oil is to water.
Wolvenvacht
08-18-13, 14:06
I'm not just saying someone shouldn't be able to enjoy ones work, but come on, if they enjoy it that much, and some do, someone is charging too much or someone (s) are paying too much.That is a nice idea. Remind me to inform your boss that you like doing your job and gladly will take a pay-cut. ;)
Member #4698
08-18-13, 14:50
My earlier comment was directed at Syzygies and Su, given I know him personally and mongered with him in years past.T1234,
I know you were responding directly to Syzygies. I just horned in on the conversation to contribute my 2 bahts worth. I suppose my point was rather obvious i.e. that most pictures of oily girls on the websites are way off. You have to go to the massage parlor and see for yourself if there are any girls that you find attractive. Maybe it's just me, but if I don't find the girl attractive, it does not matter how good her service is. I become passive on the bed and just let her do me. The session can still be real Porn Star; I will always remember friendly little Por from Mango burying her tongue in my ass for at least 20 minutes, and although I liked her as a person LOL, I never felt like a repeat with her. But on the other hand, when I am attracted to a girl, I become much more proactive DFK and 69 wise and I have a much better time.
EZ has some cuties for sure. I plan to take Candy and a couple of other EZ girls for outcall when I return to BKK. I used to really like Amy at Mango. She always looked pretty good to me and gave great sessions. I have not found a suitable Mango replacement for her. Too bad! Amy, I miss U. ;) And I want to check out Cherry Massage. From what you guys are saying, it sounds promising, but I will have to go there to find out for sure.
Maybe it's just me, but if I don't find the girl attractive, it does not matter how good her service is. I become passive on the bed and just let her do me. The session can still be real Porn Star; I will always remember friendly little Por from Mango burying her tongue in my ass for at least 20 minutes, and although I liked her as a person LOL, I never felt like a repeat with her. But on the other hand, when I am attracted to a girl, I become much more proactive DFK and 69 wise and I have a much better time.Why do you say it does not matter how good the service is? If the service is shit, you don't care? In that case why take the girl at all? I would have said,"If I don't find the girl attractive, it does not matter how good her service might be or is reputed to be, because I won't bother at all".
Meanwhile very attractive girls with great service do exist, provided you don't need a porn star, and even then the odd one may have existed.
I think June at SW is not gorgeous but looks are adequate and service is good. Different if you need big tits though. I have some very nice looking girls at Soapies that perform well including Annies. Gaew at Pink was hot but has been missing for a while. Bai-Fern at Yorimichi is both very good looking and great service (when she returns from sickness). I do not have a really special looker at EZ but some of them were missing I guess.
That is a nice idea. Remind me to inform your boss that you like doing your job and gladly will take a pay-cut. ;)Think about it, time and your health are the 2 things we need most, so why screw around with a job that could mess with either. I've chosen in the past to maximize both at the cost of my pay. It's a delicate balancing act, sort of like risk / reward.
I know many guys back in the States who travel great distances back and forth to work so their quality time with their kids is in a favorable environment, I. E. Working for the same amount of money but not for an 8 hour day but a 10 + hour day because of travel actually cuts your pay per hour or in other words your annual pay is the same but you work for a longer time per year.
I know you were sort of joking, but maybe some young pup will read this and get the message.
i am not sure i understand your point. its hard for the girl to keep enjoying when it gets to the 4th customer (in my case). that could explain why she was doing her best to not get too involved in it at first. perhaps that is not relevant to your point.
is it wrong for girls to make good or big money from something they enjoy doing? the more she seems to enjoy, the bigger the tips could be. there are rewards for great gfe i reckon. when i have really been raped by girls cowgirl when they are clearly moving for their own superior pleasure, i can really appreciate that too unless its just too forceful. lol i would never claim the girl should be paid less because she had good time. i just think she is lucky to be able to get her rocks off and make money too. some working girls (not confined to thais here) actually admit that they like sex more than the average girl, but while they cannot get pleasure from every session, they are able to have fun often enough.
i asked gaew at pink how often she actually gets to enjoy it. she replied usually every day at work at least once.
one slovak girl seemed exceptional horny one day (i had seen her a few times) and orgasmed very quickly, surprisingly. i asked her how come? she claimed she had already orgasmed with 3 different customers same day, which was even exceptional for her. this was a long time very expert pro, but a fairly honest girl not prone to bullshitting! must have been the horny time of month.
some guys have working girl gfs, and believe it, when gf says she and all her friends would never ever have a good time while working. ha ha! i am not believing these stories so easily. the special thing about thai working girls for me, is that such a good proportion of them are able to enjoy their work on occasions. some are secretly horny girls, especially if the bar girl has been away up country several weeks missing out on sex and has just got back.i full agree with most of your thoughts and my biggest turn on is getting them to cum. i always ask what turns you on or something like that and they mostly say ' make you happy' – right?
it can be hard to explain to all the ladies that there pleasure is mine (makes me happy) , but we try our best and succeed (i think) more times than not.
Ha Ha! . Certainly higher priority than the sick buffalo. LOL.
To some girls, having 64Gig of memory store on phone is very important too. LOLThe sick buffalo is our priority!
Looks like a new dedicated Prostrate Massage place is coming soon.
"Analisa Massage" opening on 6th Sept it seems, somewhere on Sukhumvit Soi 22.
I like the name, clever.
It looks liks Bo left Mango to switch to EZ2.
http://www.ezmassagebkk.com/ladies/bow.html
Maybe she got tired of multiple pops.I think it's more likely that she is still doing the multiple pops, but she has a lot less competition from other women now.
Because not every lady at EZ Massage does multiple pops with guys, which means that when customers ask for it, then they get directed to her.
Bo went from being an average chick at Mango Massage to being a star at EZ Massage. Because whether you are average or a star depends on your competition.
AssLover945
08-19-13, 16:56
I think it's more likely that she is still doing the multiple pops, but she has a lot less competition from other women now.
Because not every lady at EZ Massage does multiple pops with guys, which means that when customers ask for it, then they get directed to her.
Bo went from being an average chick at Mango Massage to being a star at EZ Massage. Because whether you are average or a star depends on your competition.Talking of Bo There is a girl similar in looks and body type (but no fake boobs like Bo) Her name is BB. Checkout her pics in the cherry websites. Very nice BJ skills and much younger than Bo.
Traveler1234
08-19-13, 17:15
Talking of Bo There is a girl similar in looks and body type (but no fake boobs like Bo) Her name is BB. Checkout her pics in the cherry websites. Very nice BJ skills and much younger than Bo.Bo was superstar before her boob job ruined her.
BB is not a superstar but should be!
AssLover945
08-19-13, 17:32
Bo was superstar before her boob job ruined her.
BB is not a superstar but should be!I don't know how to define a superstar, but I have definitely enjoyed the raw sexuality of this girl BB. She is quite busy and at times I have had to make bookings for her. Guys expecting GFE should not go to her, but those expecting PSE should. She has that "come fuck me" look OR "Are you man enough to plough me hard?".
Traveler1234
08-19-13, 19:15
I don't know how to define a superstar, but I have definitely enjoyed the raw sexuality of this girl BB. She is quite busy and at times I have had to make bookings for her. Guys expecting GFE should not go to her, but those expecting PSE should. She has that "come fuck me" look OR "Are you man enough to plough me hard?".Too bad neither she nor Su will do overnight session, LOL.
Member #4698
08-19-13, 19:28
Why do you say it does not matter how good the service is? If the service is shit, you don't care?No I care, but "no matter how good the service" means even if an unattractive girl's service is out-fucking-standing, the session will be less pleasurable to me than a session with an attractive girl doing 75% to 80% the same thing. The difference being that in the later case, I am turned on and passionately involved. It goes without saying that if an unattractive or plain girl's service is no good, there is no point in even considering her.
Once in a while I meet a borderline girl, this happens more in the PI than in Thailand, a girl that I do not find unattractive, but whom I also do not find all that attractive either and it is her personality and sexuality that turns me on and seduces me as it were. On those occasions I am amazed how passionate the sex can be with a 5. 5* girl.
BhargavRohit80
08-19-13, 19:40
Was mongering in BKK a couple of months back. Wanted to share a great place. http://www.101premiermassage.com/en/masseuses/
Amazing women. Picked up "New", true GFW.
Looks. 7/10.
Boobs. 9/10.
Service. 10/10.
Spent 45 mins doing the act, DATY, Rimming, Doggy, Missionary and the remaining time lying nude and talking.
An excellent trip. Will surely repeat.
Visited Fern again yesterday. Cute 155cm only. Slim very curvy A cups. Great GFE and fun. Recommended. She has just returned from sickness.
Looks 9 Tits 8 Fun GFE Service 9
Was mongering in BKK a couple of months back. Wanted to share a great place.
http://www.101premiermassage.com/en/masseuses/
Amazing women. Picked up "New", true GFW.I suppose GFW is a GFE when you miss the E button. You should give a bit more detail. Did New look like her pic? What was she good at?
Something strange with the web site. Jessika appears twice.
In one case she is 21 and 155cm. In another case she is 25 and 165 cm LOL. Can some of those girls with large tits (in pic) actually have chest measurement only 32? hard to believe.
So even though I am thinking May and Dasy pics looks nice, Its hard to really believe.
Did try them once and my girl chosen (forget the name right now. Appears in past report) was very timid and poor in the room. Perhaps scared of big Farang.
Traveller747
08-20-13, 10:31
Because of a recommendation I visited this place in June. It is mostly used by Japanese customers and you select the girl from a photobook. I was forewarned about heavy photoshopping of the pictures (you can see it on their webpage already) , but willing to take the risk.
The girl, who showed up, only partially resembled the picture I saw. But she was friendly and, as it turned out later, willing to go the extra mile. During initial smalltalk, she told me I was her first western customer. In the shower she appreciated the size of my male equipment, compared to the Japanese she was used to.
We started with BBBJ and when I touched her pussy, I was surprised to find it already soaking wet. She took the initiative and started pumping and grinding in CG-position so enthusiastically, that I was worried about the internal integrity of this 155cm skinny girl.
On the other hand, she was obviously having so much fun, that I thought: she should have to pay me!
Conclusion: once again not the selfaware beauty, but the average-looking and motivated girl gives the best performance.
Other day tried Ploy at Snow White as June was having a day off. Ploy is short. Face okay Belly and natural B tits a bit saggy and a few stretch marks. So if girls were nude like in a gogo I probably would not have picked her. I don't like the way the girls are seated when making a selection. Would be easier if they stood up. Ploy's face was best of a rather ordinary bunch at the time. LOL.
Performance was really quite good. Not deep throat but okay BBBJ. Enthusiastic about DATY and sex. She seemed a bit spent at the end.
Face 7, Body 6, Performance 8. Overall a 7+ so better than my experience with Vodka at Cherry. June still definitely preferred at SW, with much better body and maybe slightly superior performance.
Utopia and La Belle soapies have new web sites.
E. G.
http://www.utopiabangkok.com/model/praii-ccc
Traveler1234
08-20-13, 14:17
Was mongering in BKK a couple of months back. Wanted to share a great place.
http://www.101premiermassage.com/en/masseuses/
Spent 45 mins doing the act, DATY, Rimming, Doggy, Missionary and the remaining time lying nude and talking.
An excellent trip. Will surely repeat.Really? Website pretty lame, no pricing, website has lots of links that go nowhere?
BhargavRohit80
08-20-13, 15:47
Really? Website pretty lame, no pricing, website has lots of links that go nowhere?Agree, I don't think building websites are really their strong suites.
But the girls at the site are. Place is quite neat and clean as well.
On the other hand, she was obviously having so much fun, that I thought: she should have to pay me!
Conclusion: once again not the selfaware beauty, but the average-looking and motivated girl gives the best performance.LOL That's a funny one!
I had a very poor performer from 101, so it clear that in the end, its all about the particular girl and not so much the shop. So promoting the shop doesn't help much. Naming the girl would be of much more use.
Also its clear that selecting girls out of the picture book may not have the expected result.
To celebrate my arrival in BKK I booked two ladies from Cherry: Ploy and Su, and Ice from Mango. To summarize: I would rate Ploy best, then Ice and then Su:
Ploy has a young firm body, mid-sized brests, a small but firm ass. She was quite eager to please, but would refrain from anal, since, as she said, she ate too much and too spice som tam. She was quite participating coming three times, as she said. If faked, she was good in it. Don't know, if I would repeat, the chemistry for me was not optimal, but it was a positive experience.
Ice then in the evening: I know her since quite a time and I like her. This time, her service was to nervous for my taste: She would not remain steady for one activity, changing positions, techniques, etc. Then she kept on chatting and chatting distrcting me from the issue. I don't think I would repeat any more, not because her age and looks about which there has been said here enough, but because of the service which was not up to the former experiences.
Today Su from Cherry. She has sagging breasts, more than appear in the pictures, a large tattoo all across her belly, and for me the positive point in appearance, a big generous ass. She wanted to start with a massage, but I insisted on special first. BJ was so so, she did not very much appreciate DATY, fake moaning, but trying to stop after a short time, The best fucking position was doggy with her ass in sight. After the first round, she proposed a massage which took almost the rest of the time and then she wanted to finish me with a HJ. I insisted on some more fucking, but gave up after a while sensing that she was not really into it. Would not repeat.
Today Su from Cherry. She has sagging breasts, more than appear in the pictures, a large tattoo all across her belly, and for me the positive point in appearance, a big generous ass. She wanted to start with a massage, but I insisted on special first. BJ was so so, she did not very much appreciate DATY, fake moaning, but trying to stop after a short time, The best fucking position was doggy with her ass in sight. After the first round, she proposed a massage which took almost the rest of the time and then she wanted to finish me with a HJ. I insisted on some more fucking, but gave up after a while sensing that she was not really into it. Would not repeat.okay Thanks for this. My buddy suggested Su body would not be a match for my taste and I think you have confirmed.
I think I am pretty happy with my regular girls right now, but have acquired just a few new ones that I really like.
Traveller747
08-21-13, 12:08
The day after my positive experience at 101 Premier I tried Nataree. At 5 pm there were about 10 girls in the fishbowl and at least 30 sideliners. There was no stunner or real beauty, who caught my eye, so it was difficult for me to come to a decision.
Finally I gave in to the papasan, who advertised an 18 year-old cutie. We took the crowded elevator to the room, where she prepared the bathtub and I had time to notice: renovation of the rooms is overdue for a long time!
The girl had the charm of the youth, but she was not into it, very passive and no kissing. So this event could not be booked under positive.
When I left, I noticed that not only the quantity of sideliners had increased, but the quality also.
Finally I gave in to the papasan, who advertised an 18 year-old cutie. We took the crowded elevator to the room, where she prepared the bathtub and I had time to notice: renovation of the rooms is overdue for a long time!
The girl had the charm of the youth, but she was not into it, very passive and no kissing. You should not except the girl promoted if you don't know the Papasan. He has other motives.
Had a bit of time before the airport, so went to La Belle. Papasan Oscar knows me but usually recommends girls that are not my spec. Today his recommendation looked okay Natural tits and a nose job but a good one, looked okay He said her service is good and since I couldn't find any girl better looking, I accepted. Unusual for me.
S15 Mint from Udon. Face 8, body 7. 5. She yakked a lot which meant the bath overflowed before we got in. Sex play in bath including BBBJ and tit slide was nice. On the bed her BBBJ was very good 9 points. I nearly wanted to cum in her mouth, the BBBJ felt so good. Tight pussy and good sex. 8.
Overall score an 8. Worst feature was really just talked too much and prone to exaggerate, maybe trying a bit too hard. Not exactly GFE feel. This puts me off her slightly. I prefer everything to feel real and natural.
On way out spotted natural lookers S33 and G19, so probably will try one of those next time.
Had a bit of time before the airport, so went to La Belle. Papasan Oscar knows me but usually recommends girls that are not my spec. Today his recommendation looked okay Natural tits and a nose job but a good one, looked okay He said her service is good and since I couldn't find any girl better looking, I accepted. Unusual for me.
S15 Mint from Udon. Face 8, body 7. 5. She yakked a lot which meant the bath overflowed before we got in. Sex play in bath including BBBJ and tit slide was nice. On the bed her BBBJ was very good 9 points. I nearly wanted to cum in her mouth, the BBBJ felt so good. Tight pussy and good sex. 8.
Overall score an 8. Worst feature was really just talked too much and prone to exaggerate, maybe trying a bit too hard. Not exactly GFE feel. This puts me off her slightly. I prefer everything to feel real and natural.
On way out spotted natural lookers S33 and G19, so probably will try one of those next time.Thanks for this info; La Belle does look nice, what is the price level?
Thanks for this info; La Belle does look nice, what is the price level?Expensive for Farangs. See their web pages etc. I don't have the price bands
Thanks for this info; La Belle does look nice, what is the price level?Http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php#soapy-044
They don't seem to publish the girl prices. If the price is an issue, better to choose somewhere cheap like Bangkok Cozy, Nancy, Catherine.
Member #4698
08-23-13, 16:31
La Belle does look nice, what is the price level?Yeah, La Belle is nice. It is probably the best soapy in town. The rooms are large and very posh. There is usually a very good selection of girls and I have never had a bad time here. But, La Belle is expensive, especially for Farangs. For some reason the web site took down the price list, but here is the price list for Utopia, the sister soapy. Utopia's price list has a very similar pricing structure. They just use different letter codes for their classifications. Remember La Belle and Utopia will automatically add on a Farang tax of 1000bt to the price of your girl. So for example, an "M" girl in the list below will be quoted to you for 4700bt not 3700bt.
I once questioned the Farang surcharge to a Mamasan at La Belle as I was about to pay for my session. I told her, you know me. I am a good customer. Why you charge me more. All I got back was excited Thai circular logic. It was like talking to an animated brick wall so I gave up trying to persuade her not to charge me extra or to even give me an explanation for it. I had a pretty girl smiling innocently by my side at the time and I thought it prudent not to blow the vibe. It was not the appropriate time to argue about the charge. Just pay your bill white boy and go up and have a great time. Which is what I did. In conclusion, I would say that aside from the onerous Farang tax, La Belle has always treated me very good. I have met some great girls here and always had a good time. I have a couple of favorites and it is always nice to see them again. The last time I was there in March, I picked D37. What a beauty she was and a really nice girl. She had one of the most beautiful pussies I have ever had the pleasure to lick. 5700bt (4700bt + 1000bt) was charged to the old credit card, but it was worth it. She is easily on my top 5 girls of Asia 2013 list. I am going to look her up again when I get back to town.
Http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php#soapy-044
They don't seem to publish the girl prices. If the price is an issue, better to choose somewhere cheap like Bangkok Cozy, Nancy, Catherine.Offers what Cherry, Mango, Snowwhite, and Tulips does?
Offers what Cherry, Mango, Snowwhite, and Tulips does?None of them. Most have better looking gals, but the performance is hit and miss, and never really the PSE experience that you have at those three.
Bartchamdo
08-24-13, 07:59
Ice then in the evening: I know her since quite a time and I like her. This time, her service was to nervous for my taste: She would not remain steady for one activity, changing positions, techniques, etc. Then she kept on chatting and chatting distrcting me from the issue. I don't think I would repeat any more, not because her age and looks about which there has been said here enough, but because of the service which was not up to the former experiences.This reminds me of an experience I had with Ice a couple weeks ago.
Youth is not important to me. I greatly prefer an experienced older lady to an inexperienced younger lady. I've been reading about Ice for a while, so decided to book a session with her. Unfortunately she was busy at the time I wanted, so I scheduled for after she was finished. After I made the appointment I kept wondering if it was a good idea. Wouldn't she be too tired to do well if she'd just had a session? In the end I decided to keep the appointment, hoping that she was such a pro it wouldn't matter if I was the second (third? Fourth?) of the day.
So I arrive at the appointment and go to the room with her. She immediately leaves to get her kit and I sit there waiting for quite a long time. 5 or so minutes. The room has some sweet smelling incense burning which I don't really like. I'm not into incense and am wondering why they have it burning. I've been to Mango before and they didn't do this. Was the customer before me a smoker or something?
Ice comes back to the room, and I point out the incense to her and ask if we can switch rooms. She replies with "Okay, you no like me. No problem. You can go." I tell her that I do like her. I just want a room that doesn't smell like incense. We have a brief conversation during which she says "You don't like me" something like 4 or 5 times and doesn't seem to hear when I say I do like her. She starts talking about upselling me to a VIP room for extra money. Then she turned it into moving to a VIP room, but she would pay the extra charge. It took about 2 minutes talking to her to realize she's kind of crazy. How could I like or dislike her after spending only a few seconds around her? She looked just fine.
After she kept telling me that I didn't like her, I got the hint. She was either very insecure or wanted to get rid of me. I wasn't about to waste my money on a session with somebody more interested in getting rid of me than getting me off. I told her flat out that she was acting crazy, put on my shoes, and we left. While she was walking me out she seemed fairly relieved. She said "I have booking too much."
I guess I should have gone with my initial impulse to cancel the appointment. She acted burnt out and neurotic from the beginning. I'm glad I got out of there.
Body? (Hard to say. Never saw her undressed.)
Face 5 (Not an issue. I was after her experience, not her face.)
Attitude 1.
Technique? (No idea)
I left Mango, went to Cherry and had another session with Candy. It was a great time. She's a good lady with a very pleasant attitude. A bit chubby, which isn't a problem for me, but will turn off some people.
I haven't had much luck with Mango in general. I'll try other MPs for a while.
So I arrive at the appointment and go to the room with her. She immediately leaves to get her kit and I sit there waiting for quite a long time. 5 or so minutes. The room has some sweet smelling incense burning which I don't really like. I'm not into incense and am wondering why they have it burning. I've been to Mango before and they didn't do this. Was the customer before me a smoker or something?
Ice comes back to the room, and I point out the incense to her and ask if we can switch rooms. She replies with "Okay, you no like me. No problem. You can go." I tell her that I do like her. I just want a room that doesn't smell like incense. We have a brief conversation during which she says "You don't like me" something like 4 or 5 times and doesn't seem to hear when I say I do like her. She starts talking about upselling me to a VIP room for extra money. Then she turned it into moving to a VIP room, but she would pay the extra charge. It took about 2 minutes talking to her to realize she's kind of crazy. How could I like or dislike her after spending only a few seconds around her? She looked just fine.Patience man! 5 mins is like a split second in "Thai time".
Its unfortunate. I am a guy that often has a somewhat deadpan look and Thais may interpret that I am in a bad mood. But actually am just relaxed and chilling out. Would be great if all the girls had the same relaxed and chilled out style, especially for you and me. After they get to know you, all should be well, but sometimes they are too worried initially.
Maybe Ice is a bit too hyper for you or I. Some other girl may be nicely chilled out and going with the flow. Even a lazy girl can sometimes be better for me than one that is just too hyper, or too much of a bullshit artist, or too fidgety, to changeable, etc.
I recently was not happy with Vodka as she could not relax, go slowly, and kept changing what she was doing, perhaps searching for something to change my deadpan look.
FlyingVisitor
08-24-13, 11:04
Good Morning,
Do you offer in your establishment also "open" BJ? It means that I can get the service in some area where other ladies and / or customers can have a look on me?
This would be a great chance also for you to compete with SOL or Kangaroo.
Regards.
FV
Looks like a new dedicated Prostrate Massage place is coming soon.
"Analisa Massage" opening on 6th Sept it seems, somewhere on Sukhumvit Soi 22.
I like the name, clever.This place sounds like it holds some promise as a Rin or Akane alternative. Please keep us updated.
SL
Good Morning,
Do you offer in your establishment also "open" BJ? It means that I can get the service in some area where other ladies and / or customers can have a look on me?
This would be a great chance also for you to compete with SOL or Kangaroo.
Regards.
FVHi,
I don't offer the kind of service you are looking for unfortunately. This area has changed quite a bit with respect to what bars can get away with. For example to the best of my knowledge there are no "real" ping pong shows around here anymore. Because of their location we don't really compete with SOL or Kangaroo, at least not directly. Unless someone can shed some light on the subject I think you will need to go to Patpong for this kind of service.
Regards,
BJ
This reminds me of an experience I had with Ice a couple weeks ago.
Youth is not important to me. I greatly prefer an experienced older lady to an inexperienced younger lady. I've been reading about Ice for a while, so decided to book a session with her. Unfortunately she was busy at the time I wanted, so I scheduled for after she was finished. After I made the appointment I kept wondering if it was a good idea. Wouldn't she be too tired to do well if she'd just had a session? In the end I decided to keep the appointment, hoping that she was such a pro it wouldn't matter if I was the second (third? Fourth?) of the day.
So I arrive at the appointment and go to the room with her. She immediately leaves to get her kit and I sit there waiting for quite a long time. 5 or so minutes. The room has some sweet smelling incense burning which I don't really like. I'm not into incense and am wondering why they have it burning. I've been to Mango before and they didn't do this..."I have booking too much" statement is the key to this issue. My guess is that she was just exhausted or in pain and could not take anymore. I have had a working "GF" for about 8 months and have a unique insight as to how some of the shops work and how the ladies are treated. The average day including travel time is 11-12 hours, six days a week. If there is a holiday where alcohol cannot be served the day off is cancelled and everyone works. Some of the ladies arrive at the shop at 9:30 to make buddha and have to stay until 23:00. If a customer comes in just before they leave they have to stay over. Sometimes a customer want them for all night and they have to go. If they are sick and want to go home they have to pay. Leave at 21:00 and it costs 1000 baht. Two "period" days a month cost 1500 baht each. A full day off cost 3000 baht. So a lot of the ladies that are sick just tough it out so they don't have to pay. They also have to pay the shop for the "privilege" of working there but that is another story.
Fucking four or five men a day can be hard work and I don't know how they do it. Another aspect is that the ladies are often in pain from rough or prolonged sex. My "GF" told me of a man that fucked her continuously for two hours and also about one (outcall) that wanted some type of continuous sex for over four hours. Some of these women are small and getting pounded hard with a big dick that hits their uterus hurts. I know of instances where they were bleeding from rough anal sex (big dick or jamming four fingers into their ass) , choked when giving a blowjob by someone forcing their head into their crotch, etc. The list goes on. I think we get remarkable service from these women and need to have a little empathy and understanding when there is a problem.
AssLover945
08-25-13, 15:07
Good Morning,
Do you offer in your establishment also "open" BJ? It means that I can get the service in some area where other ladies and / or customers can have a look on me?
This would be a great chance also for you to compete with SOL or Kangaroo.
Regards.
FVYou can't get it anywhere except in SOL. I one did it with a mate and 3 girls with girls being interchanged. While my mate was on the barstool, I was on the sofa. And another guy was in the next sofa with 2 more girls. It is huge turn on to have 5 naked girls, while getting sucked you way to glory with cold beer on hand dude. Hahahaha
You can't get it anywhere except in SOL. I one did it with a mate and 3 girls with girls being interchanged. While my mate was on the barstool, I was on the sofa. And another guy was in the next sofa with 2 more girls. It is huge turn on to have 5 naked girls, while getting sucked you way to glory with cold beer on hand dude. HahahahaSOL maybe the only place to have full sex in the public bar but there were Cowboy bars where could at least get BJ. Toy Bar and one other (forget the name) for example, although perhaps my experience is too long ago.
Paul Kausch
08-26-13, 23:28
I've been reading about Ice for a while, so decided to book a session with her. Unfortunately she was busy at the time I wanted, so I scheduled for after she was finished.
She replies with "Okay, you no like me. No problem. You can go."
I guess I should have gone with my initial impulse to cancel the appointment. She acted burnt out and neurotic from the beginning. I'm glad I got out of there.
"I have booking too much" statement is the key to this issue. My guess is that she was just exhausted or in pain and could not take anymore.
Fucking four or five men a day can be hard work and I don't know how they do it. Another aspect is that the ladies are often in pain from rough or prolonged sex.
I think we get remarkable service from these women and need to have a little empathy and understanding when there is a problem.Thank you Nakbin for clearly explaining the working conditions of the typical MP girl. Your girl friend confirms what I've always thought these ladies must cope with. One thing I conclude from your post is that it is wise to look for a lady who looks eager to go with you and avoid booking a lady who has just finished with one client. As Ice has been in the business for a long time it's understandable why she acted burnt out and neurotic. If she's around forty she's probably been subjected to this for half her life.
As a woman ages the walls of her vagina become thinner and are more easily injured from vigorous vaginal sex. I remember many decades ago taking an elective sociology course in "social deviancy." In the unit on prostitution I read that "common prostitutes" who have several clients a day prefer giving the johns a BJ to save the wear and tear on their bodies. I suspect this is one reason some ladies work in the BJ bars. Sucking off a dozen guys a day is much easier than 5 two-hour sessions a day with guys who are hell bent on giving them a "hard pounding."
Thank you Nakbin for clearly explaining the working conditions of the typical MP girl. Your girl friend confirms what I've always thought these ladies must cope with. One thing I conclude from your post is that it is wise to look for a lady who looks eager to go with you and avoid booking a lady who has just finished with one client. As Ice has been in the business for a long time it's understandable why she acted burnt out and neurotic. If she's around forty she's probably been subjected to this for half her life.
As a woman ages the walls of her vagina become thinner and are more easily injured from vigorous vaginal sex. I remember many decades ago taking an elective sociology course in "social deviancy." In the unit on prostitution I read that "common prostitutes" who have several clients a day prefer giving the johns a BJ to save the wear and tear on their bodies. I suspect this is one reason some ladies work in the BJ bars. Sucking off a dozen guys a day is much easier than 5 two-hour sessions a day with guys who are hell bent on giving them a "hard pounding."I don't think it's fair to generalize about what's typical from anecdotal stories like this. Because people usually talk about the bad stuff, and they don't say much when everything goes well.
It's like picking up a newspaper and getting a false impression that your city is full of crime, because the newspaper reporters deliberatly looked for the worst stories they could find and didn't report anything that went well.
I've recently spent some time among personal care workers who didn't have much to do and were gossiping a lot. They kept talking about all the bad incidents they've had with their clients going back not just months but years. And they were talking about it, as if it happened only yesterday, because they've been telling the same stories so many times over the years that they've learned to tell them really, really well.
When something bad or unpleasant happens, then it's normal for people to remember it for a long time and keep talking about it. But they keep talking about it because it's so unusual that it's interesting for people to hear and not because this is their typical experience.
Also, the thinning of vagina usually happens as a result of menopause and not gradually as a result of aging. For most women, menopause happens around 45-50 years of age. Their bodies decrease production of sex hormones, and this adversely affects the parts of their body that depend on those hormones, including vagina.
Paul Kausch
08-27-13, 03:17
I don't think it's fair to generalize about what's typical from anecdotal stories like this.
Also, the thinning of vagina usually happens as a result of menopause and not gradually as a result of aging. For most women, menopause happens around 45-50 years of age. Their bodies decrease production of sex hormones, and this adversely affects the parts of their body that depend on those hormones, including vagina.Dan,
An anecdotal story is "A story based on casual observations or indications." Nakbin was describing his girlfriend's account of what it is like to work in an MP. Unless it is fabricated, this is an account by a sex worker of the working conditions in a Bangkok MP. As such, it is not an anecdotal story; and considering the details about the hours worked, fees due to the MP, details that are common practices, I'm inclined to believe his story. It is consistent with what I learned over forty years ago in my class readings about prostitution; and it is consistent with what sex workers I have know over the years have told me.
If you read through the old posts on this thread, you will come across a post about a conversation an ISG member had with Apple about how she was weary of how her reputation encouraged too many clients to be too rough with her too often. As I recall, she remarked that she really didn't enjoy having several fingers simultaneously inserted in her ass. Surprise, surprise! A fairly recent post commented that Ploy does not do a-level with every client. I believe the person writing the post speculated this was due to discomfort from previous sessions or the size of the current client's cock. Pain or a fear of pain is the reason Ploy is selective when and with whom she offers her ass.
Scour the internet and you will find unedited, real time videos of the shooting of porn videos. There is one in which Kobe Tai is doing a threesome with anal. Watch it and notice how slowly and carefully the male actors initiate penetration. Listen to the female director imploring them to proceed slowly. Watch the grimace on Kobe's face when one actor begins trying to penetrate her rectum. It's not very sexy so none of this makes it into the edited version with audio dub that gets distributed for viewing.
Bottom line, Nakbin's post confirms common sense, that on days these girls see several clients and some of them get rough, their performance declines as the day wears on. I'm merely suggesting we look at the situation from the perspective of the sex worker.
As for my statement about the thinning of the walls of a woman's vagina, I am not a medical doctor. I am repeating something a doctor I used to date told me, and that is that by the times a woman is in her twenties, the thinning of the vaginal walls, called vaginal atrophy, which is caused by reductions in estrogen levels, begins. Menopause causes a dramatic change in estrogen levels and therefor extreme vaginal atrophy, so extreme that intercourse can be very painful and cause vaginal tearing in some women. However, anything that reduces estrogen levels, such as pregnancy, lactation and a woman's menstrual cycle will cause the walls to temporarily thin. By the time a woman is in her thirties she is considered perimenopausal, her estrogen levels will begin to show a gradual decline and the vaginal walls will begin to permanently thin.
Paul
Streetwalker7
08-27-13, 03:36
Stop with the anal guys. The anus was not made for commercial use. LOL. Perhaps the girls should give the guy anal first by offering to stick a pencil up the guys asshole. LOL.
Question. Why don't girls just stop the rough pounding. Just say no! They are in the mp venue not in the privacy of the guys hotel room, they could scream "fuck off you bastard", I'm sure help would be on its way. LOL.
Whenever I bring a girl to my room if they don't want to do something they just say so. And we don't do it.
Wolvenvacht
08-27-13, 06:56
SOL maybe the only place to have full sex in the public bar but there were Cowboy bars where could at least get BJ. Toy Bar and one other (forget the name) for example, although perhaps my experience is too long ago.In "After School" in Soi Cowboy, you can get a public BJ in the naughty boys corner.
I don't think it's fair to generalize about what's typical from anecdotal stories like this. Because people usually talk about the bad stuff, and they don't say much when everything goes well.Why is that some guys concentrate on negative stories? I get accused on hyping up some girl, merely when I report that everything went exceedingly well. LOL
On the other topic:
I think the bar girls working sex life is somewhat better as many are not getting BFed every night and some do only 1 customer per night. The ones that do many customers are hoping for a 5 min quickie. Contrast this with a Tulip or Cherry girl, like Vodka, who had to take a pounding from 3 customers before I arrived at 4:30PM. Its hardly surprising that she wasn't up to scratch at the start of that session but managed to improve later. I would have been far better to take her first booking I am sure.
Despite some guys refusing to do bar girls, some of them are fucking fantastic, IMHO. My last girl at Dollhouse had a fabulous ass and was a fabulous fuck, and enthusiastic (I took her very early in the night). I could imagine booking her on successive days for LT easily.
Sorry this is MP thread but just pointing out bar girls can be the fresh girl alternative with much less wear and tear.
I don't think all MP girls are very busy, even attractive and talented ones. That is what they often tell me in any case. Terwagne
CorporateMalaya
08-27-13, 16:29
Yeah, La Belle is nice.Can someone throw some light on the genuineness of the pics on sites such as thaimassagemodels, which links into poseidon, utopia and many of the others posh MP's based on their first hand experience. Their server has been super slow of late, and refuses to load.
Streetwalker7
08-27-13, 17:06
I don't think all MP girls are very busy, even attractive and talented ones. That is what they often tell me in any case. TerwagneI bet all the baht in the world- no matter where you go the principle remains the same. Whoever the prettiest are-and the market tells you who they are-they are very busy.
Street girls. The pretttiest get most of the action.
Beer bar.the prettiest get most of the action.
Nursing home type girls-the prettiest get most of the action.
The problem with pretty girls telling how busy they are is that they won't. LOL. You have to actually see them in action and then bring it up and then they will admit they are superstars. LOL.
Paul Kausch
08-27-13, 17:17
Why is that some guys concentrate on negative stories?
Contrast this with a Tulip or Cherry girl, like Vodka, who had to take a pounding from 3 customers before I arrived at 4:30PM. Its hardly surprising that she wasn't up to scratch at the start of that session but managed to improve later. I would have been far better to take her first booking I am sure.
Despite some guys refusing to do bar girls, some of them are fucking fantastic, IMHO.
Just pointing out bar girls can be the fresh girl alternative with much less wear and tear.Guess I started this with my post about overly busy MP girls. I wasn't trying to be negative, just suggesting (1) we look at things from the girl's perspective and (2) it's a good idea to look for the fresher girls, a point you make about bar girls. By the way, I was thinking about your post about being Vodka's 4th customer by 16:30 when I was writing my post. While I generally prefer the MP girls over the bar girls, I think as a rule the MP girls perform better, I've had some very good romps with bar girls.
I don't think all MP girls are very busy, even attractive and talented ones. That is what they often tell me in any case. TerwagneYes, I highly doubt that getting 5 guys a day is a usual occurence for any massage woman. It probably happens once in a while around holidays, when more customers come. But this probably ins't the usual occurence even for attractive massage women.
At the Massage parlors where I've been, massage women usually greatly outnumber the customers. Which can be intimidating for the customers. Because it's like one guy looking at 20-30 women, and they are all checking him out too. Many women there probably don't get any customers at all on some days.
Why is that some guys concentrate on negative stories? I get accused on hyping up some girl, merely when I report that everything went exceedingly well. LOLThere is a scientific explanation for this. A recent study has found that some people focus on the negative aspects of their experience all the time, while others focus on the postive aspects. It's a part of their personality, and they do this consistently.
Which means that you need to read the reports about the massage ladies with a grain of salt. Because whether you get a postive or a negative report depends a lot on the personality of the reporter and not just on how good the woman is with guys.
The authors of this study say,"This surprising and novel discovery expands attitude theory by demonstrating that an attitude is not simply a function of an object's properties, but it is also a function of the properties of the individual who evaluates the object".
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130826123147.htm
Paul Kausch
08-27-13, 18:47
Yes, I highly doubt that getting 5 guys a day is a usual occurence for any massage woman. It probably happens once in a while around holidays, when more customers come. But this probably ins't the usual occurence even for attractive massage women.
At the Massage parlors where I've been, massage women usually greatly outnumber the customers. Which can be intimidating for the customers. Because it's like one guy looking at 20-30 women, and they are all checking him out too. Many women there probably don't get any customers at all on some days.A recent documentary, Wh*re's Glory By Michael Glawogger, starts with a segment in one of the big Thai-centric MPs. In it there is a conversation between two WG in which one says to the other,"I hope I get a Customer tonight." At the other extreme Syzygies was Vodka's 4th customer of the day and it was only late afternoon. Not that long ago there was a post on the Tulip thread about one of the popular girls seeing 60 customers in the previous 2 weeks.
My modus operandi with the MPs is to either book a popular girl for outcall or to walk in and look for a girl who appears eager. My reasoning with the popular girls is to give her a chance to get out of the parlor and the commute time as a break. I figure the eager girl in the parlor is having a slow a day and is raring to have a go with me. I can't say every session with an MP girl is great, but generally I'm happy at the end of two hours.
The age issues is relevant with someone like Ice. A 40 year old p*ssy can't take as much pounding as a 22 year p*ssy. Ice is very skilled, but at the end of even one or two vigorous two hour sessions, she may be a little sore. I base this in part on experiences I had with a girl friend in her early forties. While she was a great f*ck, her p*ssy would need a day to recover after a particularly long and vigorous romp in the hay.
While I generally prefer the MP girls over the bar girls, I think as a rule the MP girls perform better, I've had some very good romps with bar girls.Well I might disagree. Its much easier to find MP girls that are terrible LOL. No I joke a little. The real problem with girl selection at MPs is you get a line up, and generally not much time to talk to them to make a choice, if at all. Indeed I was virtually kicked out of Eden because they expected me to make an almost immediate choice while girls stood in line. Very tough since none of them were that pretty. Normally I make a wise crack and gauge the reactions a bit.
In a bar you can call a girl over for a drink and chat and then if chemistry is not working, you let them go back to dance and consider another girl. I called one DollHouse girl over on two occasions but chemistry wasn't going great. I decided I liked her body O. K, face mediocre, and attitude I just didn't get a good vibe. Let her go. Later I was able to choose a girl where chemistry was good and she turned out to be exceptional.
Crazy House I took a newbie girl so full well realised she would not know much, but I was willing to train her. Equally I could have decided not to take her based on her lack of experience. At least I knew what to expect. At an MP, you usually don't know what to expect unless a few others have already reviewed in detail.
Its quite some time since I had a bad bar girl session (without expecting too much from the newbie girl) , but weak to so-so MP sessions are far more frequent for me.
The percentage of great repeatable girls I ever had at Nataree, Poseidon, La Belle, La Defense, etc. Is not great at all.
Oilies maybe a better success rate than Soapies, but still some total duds, e. G. At 101 Premier, and quite a few non-memorable girls I would not repeat.
Traveler1234
08-27-13, 19:11
A recent documentary, Wh*re's Glory By Michael Glawogger.Http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/28/*****-s-glory-an-interview-with-michael-glawogger.html
My modus operandi with the MPs is to either book a popular girl for outcall or to walk in and look for a girl who appears eager. My reasoning with the popular girls is to give her a chance to get out of the parlor and the commute time as a break. I figure the eager girl in the parlor is having a slow a day and is raring to have a go with me. I can't say every session with an MP girl is great, but generally I'm happy at the end of two hours.
The age issues is relevant with someone like Ice. A 40 year old p*ssy can't take as much pounding as a 22 year p*ssy. Ice is very skilled, but at the end of even one or two vigorous two hour sessions, she may be a little sore. I base this in part on experiences I had with a girl friend in her early forties. While she was a great f*ck, her p*ssy would need a day to recover after a particularly long and vigorous romp in the hay.Yes, choosing only among ladies who appear eager to go with you is a basic pre-requisite for having a good experience. Because the choice needs to be mutual for mutual enjoyment. It's hard to be happy with someone, who isn't happy with you.
I used to go for the best-looking lady in the room for a good boom-boom. But after a few bad experiences, I've learned to choose only among women who show some positive interest in me.
You can't really know how many customers the lady had just by looking at her. But she knows, and she shows it with her desire or lack of it to go with you. The lady knows something you don't know, and that's why you need to pay attention to her clues. Which isn't possible when you choose the lady without seeing her, such as when you book an appointment to see her.
But about the older ladies, I actually found they are better at taking a good pussy-pounding from me than the younger ladies are. Because most older ladies have had children by natural birth, which stretched out their pussies and made it easy for them to take on guys, who are big in the cocky department. Some of my best experiences have been with ladies in their late 30s, because my pussy-pounding they took really well and seemed to enjoy it too.
If you want to pussy-pound a sexy lady for a good half-hour or more. Then you are better off going with an older lady than a younger one. But if it's massage, BJs, DFKs, and DATYs you mostly want, then a younger woman might be just as good as an older one.
Paul Kausch
08-27-13, 22:31
Yes, choosing only among ladies who appear eager to go with you is a basic pre-requisite for having a good experience. Because the choice needs to be mutual for mutual enjoyment. It's hard to be happy with someone, who isn't happy with you.
But about the older ladies, I actually found they are better at taking a good pussy-pounding from me than the younger ladies are. Because most older ladies have had children by natural birth, which stretched out their pussies and made it easy for them to take on guys, who are big in the cocky department. Some of my best experiences have been with ladies in their late 30s, because my pussy-pounding they took really well and seemed to enjoy it too.You make a good point about women who have had children by natural birth; and I do think generally a woman in her thirties or early forties is a better f*ck. My comment was directed towards situations where the SW has had a lot of clients, e. G. Syzygies experience with Vodka and Bartchamdo's experience with Ice. Both these ladies had busy days. At first Vodka, in her early 20's, was not enthusiastic bu Syzygies was able to coax a good performance out of her. Ice did everything she could think of to get out of the session. I think the difference was she was more than just tired; she was beginning to experience discomfort, which I attribute to her age.
I don't want to beat the issue to death. I think your first sentence sums up my main point very nicely.
Paul Kausch
08-27-13, 22:43
Well I might disagree. Its much easier to find MP girls that are terrible LOL. No I joke a little. The real problem with girl selection at MPs is you get a line up, and generally not much time to talk to them to make a choice, if at all.I don't think anyone who doesn't already know who to book and who to avoid should go to the Ratchada soapies expecting great sex. The venue is the appeal. I think enough is written about the girls at the oilies catering to farang's that you can go in with some knowledge of who is generally good. If one of those girls looks interested in going with you, there's a high likelihood the session will be good.
I don't have as much experience with the gogos as you. Like you, I will always spend some time with the girl to see if the chemistry is right. On my last trip to NEP I did ST with two girls; great chemistry with both; great sex with one; lousy sex with the other. That's a small sample and a. 500 batting average, but I wasn't playing baseball. Perhaps you guys who know the gogos well have better luck. As I tend to roll into town for a couple of weeks a couple of times a year, I expect to have good sex with some of the MP girls and especially with the escorts. I view the bars and clubs as opportunities to have some fun hunting for a good girl and if I find one I consider her icing on the cake.
I don't think anyone who doesn't already know who to book and who to avoid should go to the Ratchada soapies expecting great sex. The venue is the appeal. I think enough is written about the girls at the oilies catering to farang's that you can go in with some knowledge of who is generally good. If one of those girls looks interested in going with you, there's a high likelihood the session will be good.
I don't have as much experience with the gogos as you. Like you, I will always spend some time with the girl to see if the chemistry is right. On my last trip to NEP I did ST with two girls; great chemistry with both; great sex with one; lousy sex with the other. That's a small sample and a. 500 batting average, but I wasn't playing baseball. Perhaps you guys who know the gogos well have better luck. As I tend to roll into town for a couple of weeks a couple of times a year, I expect to have good sex with some of the MP girls and especially with the escorts. I view the bars and clubs as opportunities to have some fun hunting for a good girl and if I find one I consider her icing on the cake.Some good points. My batting average for gogos is way higher than 50. A couple of tips for anyone interested:
* A very sexy or raunchy dancer is often good on the bed. A very lazy dancer can either be bad or good in bed, but not likely to be super energetic.
* Girls that are willing to do very sexy shows like lesbian show, are almost always good (I don't refer to ugly shows like ping pong, smoking etc.).
* Don't take girls that are too aggressive or pushy. Avoid drunks or drugged girls.
* When I already know a great girl, I often ask her which other girls she thinks are very hot.
* For bars where I know the serving staff, I can even get tips from some of them. Like I mention a girl and I get a thumbs up or thumbs down from staff that I give good tips to. E. G. Although Lai at Suzie Wong looks good, she dances a bit strangely (like disco style) and none of the girls like her. I went with her once and didn't like her over acting.
* give the girl a couple of tequilas, if she hasn't had any already, to get her relaxed but not drunk preferably. Don't buy tequilas for girls who are not used to it.
* evaluate how the girl is when sits with you. Willing to cuddle up or sit on lap? Or stand-offish?
* Prefer experienced girls that have developed good skills.
I struggle to remember the last bar-girl I took that was poor (bad memory) , but rejected quite a few at the drinks stage. The weakest performer I took recently, I still repeated because she looked so good, even if her BJ was sub-standard, I could still enjoy the overall session.
Every single girl I took from Dollhouse turned out good or excellent, but I got lucky with one who I selected after spotting her for all of about 3 seconds. Just too hot for me to ignore.
You make a good point about women who have had children by natural birth; and I do think generally a woman in her thirties or early forties is a better f*ck.Bear in mind there are many Thai girls fucking since they were 16 and a mother before 18, etc. They can already be extremely experienced by the age of 21 or so. So being 30+ is not really a requirement.
Francesco24
08-28-13, 12:32
As the discussion seems to be on oilys vs bars. I just want to add my limited experience few nights ago in Soi Cowboy.
In the last couple of months I didn't have a chance to visit any massage shop sadly, but few days ago some friends from my country were visiting Bangkok and one night I showed them around Soi Cowboy.
We spent about 1 hour in Suzie Wong from 11pm until midnight. (on a weekday)
There was no lesbian show during that time, but otherwise it was quite nice. No girls pushing for drinks and decent showing on the stage. Many nice girls available.
My friends (who are in their early 30s and quite good looking and fit) asked a couple of nice looking girls the price and were quoted 3000 baht for ST.
So from my limited experience in the gogo scene (I am married here with no freedom at night time anyway), the quality was there for sure.
In general terms, I would be happy to get sometime a very cute gogo girl (even with average service) over a average looking oily girl (with good mango / cherry / etc level of service).
Maybe what's stopping some people who prefers oily (and that's stopping me too) is the price.
On average the price for 1 hour session in a oily shop is 1900 baht.
From what I saw in Suzie Wong the price for 1 hour session is 3000 baht for the girl. 300-400 baht for ST hotel. 600 baht for barfine. 200-500 baht for drinks. So a total of about 4200+ baht. (which also starts to be in the range of many BKK escorts for a 2 hour session and also not so different from the prices for loft girls in some western Europe countries)
Even if maybe the normal gogo price is 2000 baht for ST and the 3000 baht was intended for a 2 hour session, there is still a lot of difference compared to the 2300 bath needed for a 2 hours session in a oily shop.
Of course this is probably mostly the point of view of people with limited money available for mongering. If I had more I would certainly try the gogo scene more and the more upscale massage parlors too.
Bear in mind there are many Thai girls fucking since they were 16 and a mother before 18, etc. They can already be extremely experienced by the age of 21 or so. So being 30+ is not really a requirement.I don't find frequency to be an indicator of good. Plenty of well seasoned working gals in BKK are not that amazing in the sack. I have found that Thai girls regardless of when the started having sex, seem to really blossom in their late 20s and early 30s. They also tend to develop goos skill sets later than most Western women. Perhaps it is because many local dudes are less demanding, but no way to know. Not to say that the early 20s gals are frigid, but they lack that refined nastiness that I desire. Rarely do I find Thai women of any age who like to talk dirty, role play, have fetishes, etc. Some of it is cultural. Thailand is still conservative sexually. I remember asking a well seasoned bar girl to role play once and she replied,"I am not a dirty girl." Really, how many times do you have a gal come out of the shower, walk on all fours across the room and say filthy things? Thought so, not much. It is just not the nature here.
Of course I think a lot of this is socio-economic. If you have to worry about getting enough to eat when you are young, it is less likely you will develop fetishes and perversions. If we were sleeping with the "rich folks," it might be different.
Paul Kausch
08-28-13, 16:49
Some good points. My batting average for gogos is way higher than 50. A couple of tips for anyone interested:
* A very sexy or raunchy dancer is often good on the bed. A very lazy dancer can either be bad or good in bed, but not likely to be super energetic.
* Girls that are willing to do very sexy shows like lesbian show, are almost always goodSyzygies,
Thanks for the tips.
Forty years ago when I was a kid cruising the dance clubs in the USA looking for a girl to pickup we used to look for good dancers believing they were better in bed. The girls did the same to evaluate the guys. For what it's worth, the lousy f*ck on my last trip was the most energetic dancer in Spanky's that night. It was weird, she passed all the tests with flying colors and then was a dude.
I found the girl who was the great f*ck in Billboard. Didn't see her dance. She approached me in a very sweet manner, didn't push me to buy more than one lady drink, was very touchy and affectionate, and had a genuine appearing happy reaction when I asked her for ST. I had a feeling she would be good. She spent about 90 minutes with me: great BBBJ, DATY, FS and offered a-level but we didn't get around to it. I noticed when we finished she didn't go back to the Billboard; said she was going to another club looking for a friend. Should have asked her and the friend for a threesome as round 2, but I was spent. Ha Ha.
My personal experiences, in multiple countries, are consistent with your tip about girls who do lesbian shows.
Paul
Jeeez, I hate when that happens.
Syzygies,
It was weird, she passed all the tests with flying colors and then was a dude.
Paul
The girls did the same to evaluate the guys. For what it's worth, the lousy f*ck on my last trip was the most energetic dancer in Spanky's that night. It was weird, she passed all the tests with flying colors and then was a dude.
I found the girl who was the great f*ck in Billboard. Didn't see her dance. She approached me in a very sweet manner, didn't push me to buy more than one lady drink, was very touchy and affectionate, and had a genuine appearing happy reaction when I asked her for ST. I had a feeling she would be good. She spent about 90 minutes with me: great BBBJ, DATY, FS and offered a-level but we didn't get around to it. I noticed when we finished she didn't go back to the Billboard; said she was going to another club looking for a friend. Should have asked her and the friend for a threesome as round 2, but I was spent. Ha Ha.
My personal experiences, in multiple countries, are consistent with your tip about girls who do lesbian shows.
PaulNo one criteria is foolproof of course. Please distinguish between very sexy dancers and energetic dancers. I meant the first one. Girls that dance disco style in gogos are not showing a "sexiness" exactly. Slower style of sensuous dance is more sexy. This can be difficult if the music is all wrong. Your Billboard girl obviously gave some very good signs based on the other criteria.
They also tend to develop goos skill sets later than most Western women. Perhaps it is because many local dudes are less demanding, but no way to know. Not to say that the early 20s gals are frigid, but they lack that refined nastiness that I desire. Rarely do I find Thai women of any age who like to talk dirty, role play, have fetishes, etc. Some of it is cultural. Thailand is still conservative sexually. I remember asking a well seasoned bar girl to role play once and she replied,"I am not a dirty girl." Really, how many times do you have a gal come out of the shower, walk on all fours across the room and say filthy things? Thought so, not much. It is just not the nature here.
Of course I think a lot of this is socio-economic. If you have to worry about getting enough to eat when you are young, it is less likely you will develop fetishes and perversions. If we were sleeping with the "rich folks," it might be different.You look for a completely different type of girl I'm sure. I hate girls that talk dirty and have had to tell the odd Thai girl to shut-up as it feels like a big act. No role play, perversions or fetches required for me. Overall I find Thai hookers perform better than western ones, especially those in my own country, where they are totally hopeless (90%). I haven't done enough western non-hookers to know much. My ex-wife (Farang) had no special skills.
I had plenty to eat when young, but my fantasies are so plain, would not be regarded as perversions or fetishes at all.
Perhaps you would be better of in South America or Carribean, with a much different wilder culture? Why Thailand, if the girls are too tame?
Paul Kausch
08-28-13, 17:58
As the discussion seems to be on oilys vs bars. I just want to add my limited experience few nights ago in Soi Cowboy.Francesco,
Thanks for the Soi Cowboy report. BTW, the reason all the reports in this thread are about oilies is because this is a massage parlor thread. Generally, you'll find the gogo bar reports in the Bangkok Reports thread. None the less, appreciate your post.
Paul
You look for a completely different type of girl I'm sure. I hate girls that talk dirty and have had to tell the odd Thai girl to shut-up as it feels like a big act. No role play, perversions or fetches required for me. Overall I find Thai hookers perform better than western ones, especially those in my own country, where they are totally hopeless (90%). I haven't done enough western non-hookers to know much. My ex-wife (Farang) had no special skills.
I had plenty to eat when young, but my fantasies are so plain, would not be regarded as perversions or fetishes at all.
Perhaps you would be better of in South America or Carribean, with a much different wilder culture? Why Thailand, if the girls are too tame?To each his own. I like true drooling porn stars in bed. Not a lot of that here, although I have had a few. The flip side is that IMHO Thai women tend to be quite easy to get along with. Having a relationship with one is a far easier than with a fiery Latin or a controlling American woman. The trade off is the sex. And truth be told when in Thailand sex does not have to be one of the main factors in choosing a mate as it is readily available. I get bored with gals quick. No matter how great they are I don't repeat for a month or so at least. Why Thailand? I chose this country for other reasons as well. When looking for a place to live women were important, but certainly not the only factor. BKK is the best food town on the planet, the cost of living was very low when I moved here 13 years ago, and if one exercises a bit of good judgement, Thailand can be a fairly safe place, although that is changing. Also you have to deal with Christianity in Latin America, something I abhor.
Having a relationship with one is a far easier than with a fiery Latin or a controlling American woman. The trade off is the sex. And truth be told when in Thailand sex does not have to be one of the main factors in choosing a mate as it is readily available. I get bored with gals quick. No matter how great they are I don't repeat for a month or so at least.Yes, I hate fiery and controlling (think of Farang ex immediately). My Thai girl is rather quiet and undemanding. That is what I like, but need more sex. She only flares up occasionally. So yes, I had to make the trade-off. Accept that sex drops off with any long term partner and play up some. I am not bored with GF. Would gladly fuck her nearly every day if possible.
I am yet to find the perfect woman as a partner and also for sex. Getting both to be great (and frequent enough) , and the right age, is very difficult I think. I am happy to take sexually rampant girls for 2 hours or maybe overnight but most of the would be very unsuitable as a GF. On of my favourites bar girls drinks too much, gambles, smokes and takes Ice, talks too much and can be loud. What else could be wrong? Well she got pregnant and had a baby (nothing to do with me). She recently impressed me that has given up smoking and Ice. I have only 2 vices: sex and laziness. Crazy girls are good for just ST (regularly).
Streetwalker7
08-29-13, 04:12
As the discussion seems to be on oilys vs bars. I just want to add my limited experience few nights ago in Soi Cowboy.
In the last couple of months I didn't have a chance to visit any massage shop sadly, but few days ago some friends from my country were visiting Bangkok and one night I showed them around Soi Cowboy.
We spent about 1 hour in Suzie Wong from 11pm until midnight. (on a weekday)
There was no lesbian show during that time, but otherwise it was quite nice. No girls pushing for drinks and decent showing on the stage. Many nice girls available.
My friends (who are in their early 30s and quite good looking and fit) asked a couple of nice looking girls the price and were quoted 3000 baht for ST.
So from my limited experience in the gogo scene (I am married here with no freedom at night time anyway) , the quality was there for sure.
In general terms, I would be happy to get sometime a very cute gogo girl (even with average service) over a average looking oily girl (with good mango / cherry / etc level of service)...Price police chiming in here. LOL.
Something not right about st 3000 quotations at Suzie Wongs. Do your friends look like hooligans? Top Rainbow and Baccarra girls go for less than 3000. I highly doubt the girls were quoting for 2 hours-that,s not how agogo girls operate.
Please don't let a guys looks cloud the picture. They are prostitutes. LOL. Good looks not number 1 for hooker.
I fully agree on your comparison between agogo girls and mp. I use that as a base for my decisions not to bf agogo girls that much.
Don't fret over lack of money so much. We all have budgets. Agogos girls are just plain bad value.
For some reason I have a mental block in that I don't want to go over$100 for an agogo girl. LOL.
Yes, I hate fiery and controlling (think of Farang ex immediately). My Thai girl is rather quiet and undemanding. That is what I like, but need more sex. She only flares up occasionally. So yes, I had to make the trade-off. Accept that sex drops off with any long term partner and play up some. I am not bored with GF. Would gladly fuck her nearly every day if possible.
I am yet to find the perfect woman as a partner and also for sex. Getting both to be great (and frequent enough) , and the right age, is very difficult I think. I am happy to take sexually rampant girls for 2 hours or maybe overnight but most of the would be very unsuitable as a GF. On of my favourites bar girls drinks too much, gambles, smokes and takes Ice, talks too much and can be loud. What else could be wrong? Well she got pregnant and had a baby (nothing to do with me). She recently impressed me that has given up smoking and Ice. I have only 2 vices: sex and laziness. Crazy girls are good for just ST (regularly).So true sir, qualities that make a great sex partner normally are not ones that are conducive to a great relationship. Took me a long time to learn that.
So these reports took a bit of time, but I had one crazy time over in the LOS back in July and what's to follow is a series of threads titled "Bangkok in July". If this one tickles your fancy then there is plenty more to post from my two weeks here.
First up, after reading some posts and getting good support from ISG members, I ordered a double outcall form cherry's. Originally I had picked Apple and Nadea, but due to a delay in my date of arrival I could not reschedule Nadea and Cherry suggested Ann.
Ok. The girls are very punctual, showed up right on the clock. For anyone who has experienced Apple, we all know how bubbly and chatty she can be. First thing was this was an overnight, so the moment they showed up they wanted some food. Actually it was Apples idea to stock up for the night, and I was game.
First, Ann though. She is nothing like the pics. Great body and ass, but aged, prolly a smoker too as I can could guess from her smile. Although slightly disappointed, her attitude was bar none. The quite type, but gets very very freaky in a very sensual way. Makes you want to cuddle with her after. As for Apple. Similar to the pics, great body and all that good stuff.
So after stocking up with booze and various foods on skewers, the girls were ready to play. Apple rushes to clean up in the bathroom while I chat with Ann on the bed. She kept feeling up my member and I was eagerly awaiting Apple to get back for the much anticipated BJ and Rimjob. But she seemed to take her sweet time, which got Ann frustrated and before I knew it, ripped my shorts off to reveal a hard-on very much need of some loving. The girl did not start slow, she went DP right from the get go. No complaints here.
Off comes Apple from the bathroom to witness Ann all covered in spit and precum, going at it like she's got the muchies. Apple jumps on the bed, takes the ravenous Ann of me, puts her hands in under my legs, spreads my butt cheeks and pokes an ever so gentle poke right in nether regions with her wet fingers. After a very short finger massage, she licks her fingers dry, complimenting on the gourmet tastes provided by my rear. It was right here, that I think it was universally established in my mind that this is one of the freakiest girls I have ever been with.
And the raunchiness continued. Ann has a very nice ass, nice form and curvation, IMHO better than Apples and I was all up in it. Took it nice and deep while Apple was eating her out. I really think these two girls have a deep bond with each other. Meaning they are good friends and seem to know each other on an intrinsic level. This really helps in a 3-some because the last thing you want is two lezzies who are not into each other. Spoils everyone's fun.
And alas the night continued. Apple pulled some toys of an Anal nature form her purse and I went to town on her. She really does have a very nice ass. Clean and bouncy it make you just want to destroy it in every which perverted manner possible.
Girls were champs. No bad attitudes, chatty, friendly and up for anything. Can't recommend this duo enough guys. Ann's not much of a looker, but she has a great body and the combo with Apple makes this duo one of the most dynamic in LOS. Enjoy.
Next Report: "Bangkok in July" Ice from Mango
So these reports took a bit of time.Great report, thanks.
How much did an overnighter with 2 Cherry girls set you back?
I'm going to Bangkok in November, and it sounds well worth a try to do a Cherry duo.
Great report, thanks.
How much did an overnighter with 2 Cherry girls set you back?
I'm going to Bangkok in November, and it sounds well worth a try to do a Cherry duo.I think it was 3 grand per girl. No tips. Gave the six grand before they left in the morning.
AssLover945
08-31-13, 02:08
So these reports took a bit of time, but I had one crazy time over in the LOS back in July and what's to follow is a series of threads titled "Bangkok in July". If this one tickles your fancy then there is plenty more to post from my two weeks here.
First up, after reading some posts and getting good support from ISG members, I ordered a double outcall form cherry's. Originally I had picked Apple and Nadea, but due to a delay in my date of arrival I could not reschedule Nadea and Cherry suggested Ann.
Ok. The girls are very punctual, showed up right on the clock. For anyone who has experienced Apple, we all know how bubbly and chatty she can be. First thing was this was an overnight, so the moment they showed up they wanted some food. Actually it was Apples idea to stock up for the night, and I was game.
First, Ann though. She is nothing like the pics. Great body and ass, but aged, prolly a smoker too as I can could guess from her smile. Although slightly disappointed, her attitude was bar none. The quite type, but gets very very freaky in a very sensual way. Makes you want to cuddle with her after. As for Apple. Similar to the pics, great body and all that good stuff.
So after stocking up with booze and various foods on skewers, the girls were ready to play. Apple rushes to clean up in the bathroom while I chat with Ann on the bed. She kept feeling up my member and I was eagerly awaiting Apple to get back for the much anticipated BJ and Rimjob. But she seemed to take her sweet time, which got Ann frustrated and before I knew it, ripped my shorts off to reveal a hard-on very much need of some loving. The girl did not start slow, she went DP right from the get go. No complaints here.
Off comes Apple from the bathroom to witness Ann all covered in spit and precum, going at it like she's got the muchies. Apple jumps on the bed, takes the ravenous Ann of me, puts her hands in under my legs, spreads my butt cheeks and pokes an ever so gentle poke right in nether regions with her wet fingers. After a very short finger massage, she licks her fingers dry, complimenting on the gourmet tastes provided by my rear. It was right here, that I think it was universally established in my mind that this is one of the freakiest girls I have ever been with.
And the raunchiness continued. Ann has a very nice ass, nice form and curvation, IMHO better than Apples and I was all up in it. Took it nice and deep while Apple was eating her out. I really think these two girls have a deep bond with each other. Meaning they are good friends and seem to know each other on an intrinsic level. This really helps in a 3-some because the last thing you want is two lezzies who are not into each other. Spoils everyone's fun.
And alas the night continued. Apple pulled some toys of an Anal nature form her purse and I went to town on her. She really does have a very nice ass. Clean and bouncy it make you just want to destroy it in every which perverted manner possible.
Girls were champs. No bad attitudes, chatty, friendly and up for anything. Can't recommend this duo enough guys. Ann's not much of a looker, but she has a great body and the combo with Apple makes this duo one of the most dynamic in LOS. Enjoy.
Next Report: "Bangkok in July" Ice from MangoAppreciate taking effort to write a good detailed report.
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 02:28
I think it was 3 grand per girl. No tips. Gave the six grand before they left in the morning.I'm curious about the no tip. Two hours inhouse would normally cost 800. A standard tip is 1500 for a total of 2300. Two hours outcall is 1000 with a standard tip of 1500 for a total of 2500. Double this for two girls for two hours and you get 5000.
Three thousand per girl for overnight, excluding tip sounds right. But I strongly suspect they were expecting a tip, probably triple the standard 1500; and it sounds like they deserved a tip. So each girl may have been expecting as much as 7500 for a total of 15000.
By comparison, Bangkok Gold would charge 20000 for two girls for four hours. The girls would appreciate a tip but do not expect one. Bangkok Escorts, formerly Viagra Girls, charges 18000 for two girls for ten hours, plus an extra 2000 per girl for a-level, which without a tip is 22000.
Apple and Ann may have left your room with a smile on their face and cursing you under their breath. Sounds like you got a fantastic screw and then proceeded to screw them. Sorry to be so blunt, but there is plenty of information on ISG about fair tips for good service.
I'm curious about the no tip. Two hours inhouse would normally cost 800. A standard tip is 1500 for a total of 2300. Two hours outcall is 1000 with a standard tip of 1500 for a total of 2500. Double this for two girls for two hours and you get 5000.
Three thousand per girl for overnight, excluding tip sounds right. But I strongly suspect they were expecting a tip, probably triple the standard 1500; and it sounds like they deserved a tip. So each girl may have been expecting as much as 7500 for a total of 15000.
By comparison, Bangkok Gold would charge 20000 for two girls for four hours. The girls would appreciate a tip but do not expect one. Bangkok Escorts, formerly Viagra Girls, charges 18000 for two girls for ten hours, plus an extra 2000 per girl for a-level, which without a tip is 22000.
Apple and Ann may have left your room with a smile on their face and cursing you under their breath. Sounds like you got a fantastic screw and then proceeded to screw them. Sorry to be so blunt, but there is plenty of information on ISG about fair tips for good service.Paul, I never tip more than 1500, whether an hour. 90 min, or 120 and always get great service, but perhaps on an all nighter I would give a bit more.
Paul, I never tip more than 1500, whether an hour. 90 min, or 120 and always get great service, but perhaps on an all nighter I would give a bit more.Well said. Over-tipping and paying too much is not "normal". If the girl accepts it then that is it. You will know if you have not given enough as they will not accept it.
1500 is fine and no need to anymore.
It will not be so much as the girl leaves with a smile on her face and cursing you under her breath if you pay 1500 baht. Its more of a case if you are a mug and pay too much she will leave with a smile on her face and be singing "Another stupid farang who pays too much. Yeee-hahhh. What an idiot, I love idiots" all the way back home.
Apple and Ann may have left your room with a smile on their face and cursing you under their breath. Sounds like you got a fantastic screw and then proceeded to screw them. Sorry tobe so blunt, but there is plenty of information on ISG about fair tips for good service.So are you saying I should have tipped them them triple the going rate? Isn't that a little too excessive? Besides I asked Cherry about the tipping policy and she said its not required. It was also my first MP outcall in BKK so I was not sure about tip protocol. Cherry never mentioned anything along the lines of "tips not required but will be appreciated" she said the price is all inclusive and I went with that. For future reference, what is good tipping percent? I still think triple the rate or 15000 is a bit much. I will be in BKK next week, and not the type to knowingly screw anyone so advice will be appreciated.
Apple and Ann may have left your room with a smile on their face and cursing you under their breath.I doubt that. 3.000 THB is the going rate for overnight outcall at Mango Massage and Cherry Massage. All inclusive. But usually you can't make a booking before 10pm. Treat the girls nicely, go out with them eating, drinking, dancing, whatsoever and they will be more than happy with 3. 000 THB.
I doubt that. 3.000 THB is the going rate for overnight outcall at Mango Massage and Cherry Massage. All inclusive. But usually you can't make a booking before 10pm. Treat the girls nicely, go out with them eating, drinking, dancing, whatsoever and they will be more than happy with 3. 000 THB.3k is a fair price.
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 06:13
We could debate this ad nauseum. Personally, I wouldn't leave triple the standard tip, but I believe something more than the standard 1500 is probably appropriate. It comes down to performance. How many shots did you get and over how long a time? Did you get another shot in the morning? I don't believe in over tipping, but I think one should be fair to the girls.
Paul, I never tip more than 1500, whether an hour. 90 min, or 120 and always get great service, but perhaps on an all nighter I would give a bit more. A bit more than 3K for all night or do you mean a bit more than 1.5K?
I agree with PK that 3000 per girl is not enough for all nighter. They won't be really happy with that, no matter what the others say. You have to allow for what the shop takes (probably at least 1K) and give the girl a fair price for LT. I would say they should get a good tip on top of the 3000, to be truly happy. Otherwise they would prefer to just take a 2 hr. booking, then go home.
By all means ask the girl how much she expects. Some are too shy to say ("up to you" types) , but some will. I would be very surprised if any say just the initial 3000 is fine for all night including 2 or more sex sessions.
We could debate this ad nauseum. Personally, I wouldn't leave triple the standard tip, but I believe something more than the standard 1500 is probably appropriate. It comes down to performance. How many shots did you get and over how long a time? Did you get another shot in the morning? I don't believe in over tipping, but I think one should be fair to the girls.This night was only one pop. No fuck in the morning, they got up and left. The girls seemed tired after the first round. They we were lying about and they fell asleep. I was expecting more in the morning but they woke up and said they had to be back at Cherry's. I gave them the money and left. Still though, if Cherry had said a tip would be appreciated, then sure. I had a feeling they wanted to have a good night rest.
AssLover945
08-31-13, 08:13
I doubt that. 3.000 THB is the going rate for overnight outcall at Mango Massage and Cherry Massage. All inclusive. But usually you can't make a booking before 10pm. Treat the girls nicely, go out with them eating, drinking, dancing, whatsoever and they will be more than happy with 3. 000 THB.3000 THB is a fair price. Don't listen to the tourists who would compare the prices to western prices and habitually leave 500 THB as tips. Surprisingly in their own countries they would not even leave 5 USD tip at a restaurants, But they come to Thailand and they become over generous.
Besides the food and drinks (even a trip to 7-11 is good enough, and local food court or kuey teow stall is good enough, no need to take to expensive restaurants). Take it from me, I live here.
AssLover945
08-31-13, 08:16
We could debate this ad nauseum. Personally, I wouldn't leave triple the standard tip, but I believe something more than the standard 1500 is probably appropriate. It comes down to performance. How many shots did you get and over how long a time? Did you get another shot in the morning? I don't believe in over tipping, but I think one should be fair to the girls.1500 (lady fee compulsory) + 600 (establishment fee compulsory + somtam Tip 100 THB)
I get 3 shots or atleast 2 depending on my interest and energy level And all girls are happy.
Toursts might want to splurge, but frankly no need for more than that
I doubt that. 3.000 THB is the going rate for overnight outcall at Mango Massage and Cherry Massage. All inclusive. But usually you can't make a booking before 10pm. Treat the girls nicely, go out with them eating, drinking, dancing, whatsoever and they will be more than happy with 3. 000 THB.Recently I got an outcall from Snow White, the gal came around 7pm to my hotel for 2 hrs session, before leaving, she asked me if she can stay for overnight or not.
I was told if after 9pm you want the gal for long time, just need to give extra 1000b to the shop + original 2hrs session (2500b) = 3500b.
At the end, the gal stayed until next morning 10am, I paid total 4000b. 2k to the shop and 2k to the gal. Is this rate ok?
AssLover945
08-31-13, 08:23
I'm curious about the no tip. Two hours inhouse would normally cost 800. A standard tip is 1500 for a total of 2300. Two hours outcall is 1000 with a standard tip of 1500 for a total of 2500. Double this for two girls for two hours and you get 5000.
Three thousand per girl for overnight, excluding tip sounds right. But I strongly suspect they were expecting a tip, probably triple the standard 1500; and it sounds like they deserved a tip. So each girl may have been expecting as much as 7500 for a total of 15000.
By comparison, Bangkok Gold would charge 20000 for two girls for four hours. The girls would appreciate a tip but do not expect one. Bangkok Escorts, formerly Viagra Girls, charges 18000 for two girls for ten hours, plus an extra 2000 per girl for a-level, which without a tip is 22000.
Apple and Ann may have left your room with a smile on their face and cursing you under their breath. Sounds like you got a fantastic screw and then proceeded to screw them. Sorry to be so blunt, but there is plenty of information on ISG about fair tips for good service.Hey stop preaching. Do what you feel like with your money.
I do the same. I give what we agreed upon.
3000 THB = 100 USD, It is good enough for me.
About Escort services only 20000? I know of escorts who would charge double of that. You and your money do whatever, But stop comparing.
Hey stop preaching. Do what you feel like with your money.
I do the same. I give what we agreed upon.
3000 THB = 100 USD, It is good enough for me.
You and your money do whatever, But stop comparing.The most boring posts are those arguing that "X" paid 'too much. ' There is enough information on guideline payments here to make any further discussion a non-event.
I don't care if it is Thailand, that the WG comes from the rice fields of Issan, indeed that she is a WG. A decent f*ck in the UK is £100-£150 / hour (Baht 4,500. 6,750).
If I get a good ST for a couple of hours and pay less than a third / half of the UK cost I am happy- and I don't give a sh*t about the moaners who claim I am running the whole Thai prostitution industry. Yep, I and a couple of hundred readers of ISG are competing with every Jumbo jet that lands every half hour at Swampy a quarter full with potential mongers.
So dropping $100 on a WG is my concern and nowt to do with anyone else (plus I tip, of course, provide a few drinks and pay taxi money).
AssLover945
08-31-13, 09:19
The most boring posts are those arguing that "X" paid 'too much. ' There is enough information on guideline payments here to make any further discussion a non-event.
I don't care if it is Thailand, that the WG comes from the rice fields of Issan, indeed that she is a WG. A decent f*ck in the UK is £100#150 / hour (Baht 4, 500. 6750).
If I get a good ST for a couple of hours and pay less than a third / half of the UK cost I am happy- and I don't give a sh*t about the moaners who claim I am running the whole
Thai prostitution industry. Yep, I and a couple of hundred readers of ISG are competing with every Jumbo jet that lands every half hour at Swampy a quarter full with potential mongers.
So dropping $100 on a WG is my concern and nowt to do with anyone else (plus a tip, of course, a few drinks and taxi money).You proved me right just now, You are a tourist and will give more tips easily because back home you are used to shitty service at 3 times the service.
You may call us residents moaners, But we know for sure the WGs here look upto you as easy to withdraw ATMs. And don't you worry, we get the same or better service than what you get, for less money.
We understand your case where you are so starved that you want to get as many girls as possible within the 3 days that you can manage to get leave from your pathetic job and save for 6 months to blow up here. You do enjoy, bt the Wgs enjoy even more having jokers who would tip so easily. Enjoy mate!
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 09:24
Don't listen to the tourists who would compare the prices to western prices and habitually leave 500 THB as tips. Surprisingly in their own countries they would not even leave 5 USD tip at a restaurants, But they come to Thailand and they become over generous.I'm not sure what you base this opinion on.
In major USA cities with significant restaurant scenes 20% is a pretty standard tip, and some people leave more at the upscale restaurants if the service is exceptional. People in the USA are generally generous tippers. In cities like Miami Beach, visited by a lot of foreign tourists who try to avoid leaving a tip, it is common to automatically add 18% tip to the bill.
I do agree, Thailand is different and one need not tip as generously as in the USA. Some escort services charge enough to warrant no more than a small tip. Cherry's pricing structure assumes the girls will get a pretty generous tip. Annie's has a different price structure. The basic charge is much higher than at Cherry's so the tip need not be as generous.
Familiarity with the different price structures and common sense should be the guide.
If Bangkok Escort charges 11000 per girl for a-level escorts staying overnight and Bangkok Gold charges 10000 per girl for four hours, what would have been fair for Ann and Apple? I know Bangkok Gold is generally fully booked and the duo service is popular, so there is plenty of demand for a duo at 20000. This is a valid indicator of the high end of the market.
If I had great sex with Ann and Apple at night when they arrived and then again in the morning before they left, I'd probably tip them double the standard tip. I'd say 12000 total for two good looking a-level girls who are enthusiastic about the bisexual action, stay overnight and give me three or four shots is a good deal. If I took them out on the town with dinner, drinks and a visit to a club I might consider that part of the tip and give them a bit less.
Appreciate taking effort to write a good detailed report.You quoted his full report to add a one line kudo. Have a heart for those trying to read the forum on tablets or smart phones. Rant Off.
Slim
AssLover945
08-31-13, 09:29
If I had great sex with Ann and Apple at night when they arrived and then again in the morning before they left, I'd probably tip them double the standard tip. I'd say 12000 total for two good looking a-level girls who are enthusiastic about the bisexual action, stay overnight and give me three or four shots is a good deal. If I took them out on the town with dinner, drinks and a visit to a club I might consider that part of the tip and give them a bit less.Hahaha LOL ROFL go ahead.
We can manage with a lot less. !
AssLover945
08-31-13, 09:31
You quoted his full report to add a one line kudo. Have a heart for those trying to read the forum on tablets or smart phones. Rant Off.
SlimHahaha You need to read some of my longer reports!
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 09:37
You proved me right just now, You are a tourist and will give more tips easily because back home you are used to shitty service at 3 times the service.
You may call us residents moaners, But we know for sure the WGs here look upto you as easy to withdraw ATMs. And don't you worry, we get the same or better service than what you get, for less money.
We understand your case where you are so starved that you want to get as many girls as possible within the 3 days that you can manage to get leave from your pathetic job and save for 6 months to blow up here. You do enjoy, bt the Wgs enjoy even more having jokers who would tip so easily. Enjoy mate!Au contraire, mon frère. We tourists tip excessively so the girls will recognize you cheap bastards for what you are, a bunch of down and out expats who can't afford to live in the developed world and worry about tipping US$5 too much. Just joking mate. Maybe some guys over tip because they've had too much to drink and have lost their senses; others because they want to feel like a big shot; and still others because they genuinely feel sorry for the poor girl's water buffalo back home. Hell, I don't know why they over tip. My point is that by RTFF one can get a sense of the tipping norms.
AssLover945
08-31-13, 09:41
Au contraire, mon frère. We tourists tip excessively so the girls will recognize you cheap bastards for what you are, a bunch of down and out expats who can't afford to live in the developed world and worry about tipping US$5 too much. Just joking mate. Maybe some guys over tip because they've had too much to drink and have lost their senses; others because they want to feel like a big shot; and still others because they genuinely feel sorry for the poor girl's water buffalo back home. Hell, I don't know why they over tip. My point is that by RTFF one can get a sense of the tipping norms.You are right again, we el cheapos need to drink everyday, have some good food, go for our our usual fuck fix with a sweetie AND we got over that water buffalo story long time back. We left those stories for tourists!
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 09:47
Hahaha LOL ROFL go ahead.
We can manage with a lot less. !Dear Ass,
Guess I am a bit generous. When I was struggling to get started in my career I encountered plenty of bastards who tried to take advantage of me; and over the years I've encountered many more people who enjoy exploiting others. A long, long time ago I made up my mind I was not going to treat people that way. Funny thing, I find people who I deal with on an ongoing basis appreciate how I treat them and find ways to make it up to me. What goes around comes around.
Sincerely, PK
Streetwalker7
08-31-13, 10:01
Do girls really respect cheapness and frown at big tippers?
I think this concept is perpetuated by guys who know they are miserly.
Being generous is one - good - thing, overpaing is another - bad - thing.
When you send an email to the shop and ask about the rate for overnight outcall, you get 3. 000 THB as reply. So imho there's no need to think that the girls are not satisfied with what they get. When I go to a barber shop and ask about the rate for hair cut, I also don't double up what they tell me, just because I think that poorirl/guy that cuts my hair doesn't earn enough. I've read dozends if not hundreds of reviews about guys shagging girls from Tulip, Mango Massage, Cherry Massage, Snow White or even Victorias Massage. I never read that one single girl asked for more money than 1. 500 THB for 2 hours or 2. 000 THB for overnight, I never read about a girl complaining about getting not enough money. And you can be sure that with all those cheap charlies around in these forums, if it had happened it would have had come up.
The comparisions of escort girls and girls from massage shops is kind of useless when it comes to the rates. Different services, different rates. There's a simple reason why the girls work at Mango Massage et. al: they can make a lot of money by fucking a lot of fat and ugly farangs like me. And they probably would earn significantly less as an escort girl (yes, I know , it's just an assumption).
I stick with my plan. I fuck the girls, I take them out, get something to eat, get something to drink, have fun at a bar or a night club, fuck them more. No girl I had booked in the past ever complained about this. They all left me with 3. 000 THB in her wallet and with a big smile on her face in the morning.
While you all labor on about the intricacies of tipping here's the next post as promised. Not a fun one, this.
Oil from Mango.
After many a recommendation, out-called Oil for a 2 hour session. Many reviews about her Brazilian like butt and how she takes it like a champ had me excited for this encounter, needless to say I ended up disappointed.
Here's why.
Firstly. Nothing like the pics. The girl is short. Very short. And for me who is over 6'5, this was going to be awkward. Ok, I don't mind short girls, they are "bouncy" and very malleable especially for a tall guy like myself and they have PSE attitudes, but not this one. She seemed in a grim mood when she showed up.
Came in and exchanged very few pleasantries. Went straight to the bathroom to get cleaned up and she seemed to take ages. I actually had to go in and find out what was taking so long only to find her just sitting under the shower.
After some laborious attempts to get her out, she succumbed and came onto the bed. I asked for a massage as I lay on my front. I wanted her to massage my back and head down to my ass for some good rimming but this was one of the most lazy, stiff and dreadfully boring massages of my life. She had no incentive to even try. It almost felt like she was just leaning her hands and body against mine.
Ok. So no biggie. Besides freaky sex triumphs the massage anytime. So I shot that experience aside and was looking to get all up in her. Mediocre BBBJ, no enthusiasm same like the massage. This should have been a dead giveaway that the rest of the session was going to go downhill. Chicks who give bad BBBJ's do not fuck well. Period.
But I labored on. She put on a condom and into her pussy. Not bad with her juicy ass bouncing all up around me. But just then, Blood! Freaking blood on the condom, blood on the sheets at my hotel which I just checked in an hour ago. She was on her period I think. I freak. First I make sure the condom is intact, no tears and what not. Rush to the bathroom for a quick clean around my genital area. Needless to say I am a bit freaked out but felt assured that no blood got on me.
Oil also cleaned up, came back to the bed and demanded I do her up the ass. I wasn't really in the mood after all that, but went through the motions. To be quite honest the only thing on my mind was blood, blood, blood. After a few thrusts in her ass, I pulled out, cummed on her back and sent her on her dismal way. She seemed very out of place, disoriented and it occurred to me she did not want to be there. I get it that most people don't like their job but it's part of that job responsibility to put on an act for paying customers. And this was not even the case.
She took her money and left, no goodbyes, nothing. I was still stuck with "blood," "blood," "blood" running thru my mind. Took another shower and got some seafood. It always seems to calm me down.
Now I am reluctant to try Mango again.
Next "Bangkok in July Report". Candy from Cherrys.
AssLover945
08-31-13, 11:15
Dear Ass,
Guess I am a bit generous. When I was struggling to get started in my career I encountered plenty of bastards who tried to take advantage of me; and over the years I've encountered many more people who enjoy exploiting others. A long, long time ago I made up my mind I was not going to treat people that way. Funny thing, I find people who I deal with on an ongoing basis appreciate how I treat them and find ways to make it up to me. What goes around comes around.
Sincerely, PKNow we all know where you are coming from to be so generous. And it is great to know yoy compare your career with prostitute!
Loved the analogy!
You are indeed hilarious
You proved me right just now, You are a tourist and will give more tips easily because back home you are used to shitty service at 3 times the service.
You may call us residents moaners, But we know for sure the WGs here look upto you as easy to withdraw ATMs. And don't you worry, we get the same or better service than what you get, for less money.
We understand your case where you are so starved that you want to get as many girls as possible within the 3 days that you can manage to get leave from your pathetic job and save for 6 months to blow up here. You do enjoy, bt the Wgs enjoy even more having jokers who would tip so easily. Enjoy mate!1. I do not pay for shitty service. Based on ten years of visiting Thailand I have overall had worse service in Bangkok than in the Uk and Europe.
2. It is a characteristic of 'residents' on this board that they moan; maybe you get better service cheaper but that is subjective!
3. I have no wish to spend my time in Thailand just f*cking WGs (that seems to be the main activity of residents!). I come to enjoy the culture and the country (and to f*ck a WG a couple of timesa week). Where is this pathetic job you think I have and where do you get the idea that I save for six months. Unfounded generalisation after unfounded generalisation.
I repeat. Tourists who post on ISG are so few in number that they have no influence on WG prices. That is reality.
PS In November I plan to meet with Gulliver's pick up from last year. A local dinner for two, a few drinks and what turned into an overnight (and elevenses). All for Baht 2, 000 (all I had in my wallet.
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 18:04
Now we all know where you are coming from to be so generous.People in the service industries who deliver good service deserve good tips. It is only fair to be generous with these people. They've earned it. I think 1500 is a fair tip for a couple hours of good service with a girl at Cherry's. On an extended stay, if there are multiple sessions with the girl, more is appropriate.
If one booked a girl for a session and at the end of the session tipped the girl 1500, then went to get something to eat, then went back and booked the same girl for a second session, at the end of that session one wouldn't say: "I tipped you last time so no tip this time."
And it is great to know yoy compare your career with prostitute!
Loved the analogy!
You are indeed hilariousHuh? An analogy is: "A resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike." I did not use an analogy in my previous post.
So, for the mentally challenged, I'll try to make it simpler. I have dealt with people who like to take advantage of others. I do not like these people. I am not one of these people. This approach has served me well.
Traveler1234
08-31-13, 18:14
So, for the mentally challenged, I'll try to make it simpler. I have dealt with people who like to take advantage of others. I do not like these people. I am not one of these people. This approach has served me well.Paul - Well said ;)
When one is young and handsum, one thinks charm has some monetary value.
When one get to our age, time is money, and a few extra dollars is not important.
For the provider, that extra few dollars is meaningful and more often than not appreciated.
AssLover945
08-31-13, 18:29
While the argument and accusations continue, Let Paul and his tourist friends continue paying whatever they feel can make them stand out. We residents will continue with our ways, we will live here for pussy only (LOL) and the tourists will come here for culture LOLOL. I really enjoyed pushing the jokers up the wall (and I am doing it again here right now. Please do reply we are enjoying the POVs) Amen!
Paul Kausch
08-31-13, 22:11
While the argument and accusations continue, Let Paul and his tourist friends continue paying whatever they feel can make them stand out. We residents will continue with our ways, we will live here for pussy only (LOL) and the tourists will come here for culture LOLOL. I really enjoyed pushing the jokers up the wall (and I am doing it again here right now. Please do reply we are enjoying the POVs) Amen!Dear Ass,
You are interesting in an an odd sort of way.
Let me clarify something. I do not travel to Asia as a tourist. I have been doing business in the region for the past 25 years. I have lived in Asia. I enjoy Asian food, culture and women but that is not the reason I visit Asia. I spend time in Asia because I make a lot of money in Asia. I squeeze in a little mongering when I have the time.
I'm not advocating excessive tips. I'm pointing out what anyone who reads the forum can figure out, MPs like Cherry and Mango charge 800 for 120 minutes and the girls typically get a 1500 tip for good service. EZ charges 2400 for 120 minutes; Annie's charges 2500 for 120 minutes. These establishments build the tip into the upfront fee. A guy may leave a small tip on top of this for good service, but these establishments have already decided how much you will tip the girl. My recollection is years ago Annie's price structure was like Cherry and Mango. If I am correct I suspect their current price structure is in response to the guys who tried to get away with a cheap f*ck. Some of you other old timers may have a better memory than me and wish to confirm or correct me.
The problem with the smart asses is that they encourage MPs to do business like EZ and Annie's and build an automatic tip into the price of the service. Personally, when dealing with an MP girl I'd rather decide how large a tip the lady deserves.
Unfortunately dumb ass smart asses are unable to connect two thought and don't get it.
Sincerely, PK
Member #4698
08-31-13, 23:45
MPs like Cherry and Mango charge 800 for 120 minutes and the girls typically get a 1500 tip for good service. EZ charges 2400 for 120 minutes; Annie's charges 2500 for 120 minutes. These establishments build the tip into the upfront fee.I can't agree with what you are saying, Paul. Thai girls frequently interchange and confuse the terms 'tip' and 'service charge' because they do not fully understand the English language. There is no reason for us to do the same.
Cherry, Mango, and most oily massage parlors have a basic charge as in your example above of 800bt for the room and a straight massage or conversation that goes along with it. A few years back and even now in many places, a punter selects a girl he wants and goes upstairs with her. No one is committed to sexual congress. After a little back massage, the girl will usually turn the customer over, and start to massage his legs and upper thighs and maybe accidently on purpose touch his erogenous zone. At this point she will ask if he wants extra service. They can either agree on a price for it or not. Then and only then after an agreement has been reached will the girl expect to receive 1500bt for her sexual services. That 1500bt is not a tip.
Again, the confusion comes from the fact that Thai girls and other Asian girls may call this service charge a tip, but it is not a tip. It is a misuse of the English language. A tip or gratuity is a voluntary additional payment made for services rendered. There is nothing voluntary about the oily massage service charge. If you don't agree to pay it, the girl will not boom boom you. End of story.
Example 1: Cherry & Mango and many, many other oily massage parlors have the 800bt. Room + basic massage charge plus a 1500bt service charge. Total cost for boom boom is 2300bt. In some places like Mango the girls will perform multiple shots. In some parlors there is only a single shot. In either case, you can tip a girl anything you want afterwards. I will usually tip 300bt to 500bt for very good service. 100bt for ok service, and Zero BT for lousy service.
Example 2: EZ and Annie's have combined the room and basic massage fee with the service fee. In these places both the girl and the punter have pre agreed to the extra service (boom boom) and price before they get to the room. The girl is not going to ask you if you want to boom boom. There is no need for negotiation. The deal has already been struck. That is the only difference. Afterwards, just like in the other case, you can tip anything you like, but I will tip 300bt to 500bt for very good service. 100bt for ok service, and Zero BT for lousy service.
Example 3: A 2 hour outcall at EZ is 3000bt. This includes the basic charge plus the service charge for sexual congress. And as in my other examples, I will tip 300bt to 500bt for very good service. 100bt for ok service, and Zero BT for lousy service. This is not rocket science.
Example 4: An overnight outcall from anywhere will include the basic charge plus the service charge, so if the price is quoted at 3000bt from 10pm to whenever morning wakeup time, then that is the all-inclusive price. Here is an example of what I am talking about from one of my favorite joints, Devil's Den:
Single Escort Outcall: 90 minutes is 2, 000bt; 2 hours is 2, 500bt; 3 hours is 3, 500bt; 4 hours is 4, 500bt; *Full day is 7, 000bt; and Over Night (10pm to 6am) 3, 500bt. And please note that the overnight outcall price is less than a 4 hour during business hours outcall. Again, I assure everyone reading this that a voluntary tip (there is no other kind of tip) of 300bt to 500bt for very good service. 100bt for ok service, and Zero bt for lousy service will be very appreciated by your DD minx. You can give the girl a 1000bt to 3000bt tip if you want to; not me.
Example 5: Bangkok Gold Escort service: up to 8 hours overnight 12000bt. Now that is pretty expensive, but it includes as many shots as you want (within reason) and the girls are supposedly hotter and of higher quality than your average Go Go girl or oily massage girl. Maybe that is true and maybe it isn't. My point with this example is that once again the price quoted is the all-inclusive price. And in the morning a tip is still voluntary. For a great night I might leave such a girl a 10% tip, but I am pretty sure that a 300bt to 500bt tip for very good service would still be appreciated. The BM who said it is right, "tipping is not part of the Thai culture." A 100bt for ok service would be fine, and Zero BT for lousy service would be most appropriate considering the upfront non negotiable price.
Fast Eddie 48
09-01-13, 00:12
Dear Ass,
You are interesting in an an odd sort of way.
Let me clarify something. I do not travel to Asia as a tourist. I have been doing business in the region for the past 25 years. I have lived in Asia. I enjoy Asian food, culture and women but that is not the reason I visit Asia. I spend time in Asia because I make a lot of money in Asia. I squeeze in a little mongering when I have the time.
I'm not advocating excessive tips. I'm pointing out what anyone who reads the forum can figure out, MPs like Cherry and Mango charge 800 for 120 minutes and the girls typically get a 1500 tip for good service. EZ charges 2400 for 120 minutes; Annie's charges 2500 for 120 minutes. These establishments build the tip into the upfront fee. A guy may leave a small tip on top of this for good service, but these establishments have already decided how much you will tip the girl. My recollection is years ago Annie's price structure was like Cherry and Mango. If I am correct I suspect their current price structure is in response to the guys who tried to get away with a cheap f*ck. Some of you other old timers may have a better memory than me and wish to confirm or correct me.
The problem with the smart asses is that they encourage MPs to do business like EZ and Annie's and build an automatic tip into the price of the service. Personally, when dealing with an MP girl I'd rather decide how large a tip the lady deserves.
Unfortunately dumb ass smart asses are unable to connect two thought and don't get it.
Sincerely, PKTo Paul.
I think tipping is up to customer if they got good service from the girl, the girl at Annie ask and demand for a tip even service is bad that is why I no longer go there extra service charge should be there tip, I go to Tulip they never ask for extra tip and I alway get good service there is up to the customer.
Fast Eddie 48
I can't agree with what you are saying, Paul. Thai girls frequently interchange and confuse the terms 'tip' and 'service charge' because they do not fully understand the English language. There is no reason for us to do the same.
Cherry, Mango, and most oily massage parlors have a basic charge as in your example above of 800bt for the room and a straight massage or conversation that goes along with it. A few years back and even now in many places, a punter selects a girl he wants and goes upstairs with her. No one is committed to sexual congress. After a little back massage, the girl will usually turn the customer over, and start to massage his legs and upper thighs and maybe accidently on purpose touch his erogenous zone. At this point she will ask if he wants extra service. They can either agree on a price for it or not. Then and only then after an agreement has been reached will the girl expect to receive 1500bt for her sexual services. That 1500bt is not a tip...There are two separate transactions in the typical oily massage shops like Mango or Tulip. The shop charges 400 baht for each hour and that is all they are interested in. The girl gets 100 per hour of that. If it is an outcall the shop charges 500 baht each hour and the girl gets 200 per hour. The second transaction is between the girl and the customer. The 1500 baht is for services and and she keeps all of it. It is expected if she gets naked and only gives a hand job, blow job or full sex. Where my girlfriend works she has to pay the shop 260 baht for the first customer of the day and 70 baht for each customer after that to help defray operating expenses. She also has to buy the condoms, oil, soap, boxes of tissue, mouthwash and any other supplies from the shop. In addition are costs such as transportation and food, hiv checks etc. Ladies with no customers pay 90 baht a day for showers, getting hair and makeup etc. Also as I had mentioned in a previous post the are a lot of punitive fees if the girls are late, or want time off. Fees and expenses really add up during the course of a typical month. Tips for my girlfriend range from none (because some mistake the 1500 as a tip) to 6000 baht and never once did she complain of the level of tipping or lack of and she is a real PSE performer. The big tippers were generally repeat customers.
Traveler1234
09-01-13, 01:49
Example 1: Cherry & Mango and many, many other oily massage parlors have the 800bt. Room + basic massage charge plus a 1500bt service charge. Total cost for boom boom is 2300bt. In some places like Mango the girls will perform multiple shots.
Example 2: EZ and Annie's have combined the room and basic massage fee with the service fee. In these places both the girl and the punter have pre agreed to the extra service (boom boom) and price before they get to the room. The deal has already been struck.
Example 3: A 2 hour outcall at EZ is 3000bt. This includes the basic charge plus the service charge for sexual congress. And as in my other examples, I will tip 300bt to 500bt for very good service. 100bt for ok service, and Zero BT for lousy service. This is not rocket science.
I've had completely different experiences but agree it is not rocket science:
1. Oilies [mango, cherry, tulip, snow white] all used to charge 800 for two hrs and no minimum tip but everyone knew to give at least 1500. Then some idiots underpaid, so now the standard charge is the 2300, plus whatever extra you wish to tip. And multiiple shots is the NORM. A couple of years ago I had 3 shots in two hrs. Getting older and if I get 2, am exhausted, LOL!
2a. Annies has a set price plus extra tip -- and it's the norm to get two shots. If you're lucky, sometimes more.
2b and 3. EZ is different, the norm is NOT multiple or even two shots. You have to ask ahead of time and often they charge extra for multiple shots and +A. I had outcall back Oct 2012, one shot. I emailed management afterwards and was told only certain girls provided two shots [not multiple] and +A was additional extra charge. I have their emails still on file. For +A, girls were charging extra 1000.
Service is not guaranteed....only the amount of time and shots. Over the years, I've had only a few bad ones. Whereas with soapies, it's more hit and miss. Everyone has their own preferences. Some like oilies, others go-go/bars, etc......
As always, YMMV
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 02:36
I can't agree with what you are saying, Paul.Natty,
Thanks for the detailed, very clear, well organized presentation. I learned a lot. I appreciate the distinction you make between a service charge and a tip. Sorry about my sloppy language.
For what it's worth, my recollection is that back in the late 80's and 90's when the discussion started about upgrading the massage the girls established what I wanted and that I was going to pay extra but then left the amount "up to me." After the girl got to know me we skipped this whole discussion. The base charge was next to nothing; and with the "tip" the total cost was a few hundred bahts, slowly inflating over the years. Across the board, the bargirls, MPs and FLs always left it up to me and trusted me to treat them fairly. I recall the girls being very sweet, pretty and not the least bit mercenary. Of course this was too good to last; or maybe it was not as good as I remember it. On my trip last December, which was my first trip to Bangkok that included mongering in a few years, things had changed.
Of course all of this is irrelevant, though I enjoy having an opportunity to reminisce.
I have no experience at Cherry, it had just opened when I was last in Bangkok; I have no recollection of ever visiting Mango; and I didn't make it to Tulip. On my last trip I visited a couple of MPs in the Soi 24-26 neighborhood and was always charged 2000+ upfront. At the end of the session I "tipped" the girl a couple hundred on top of that if I liked her. I'm glad I read your post before my next trip. Now I'm clear on the expectations of the girls' who work at Cherry and Mango, two venues I'm planning to visit.
I'm reconciling the relatively low cost of an overnight booking for a girl from Devil's Den or an MP. I guess it's because the girl expects to sleep most of the time. I've read and heard reports that these girls get pretty testy if you expect them to f*ck all night or wake them in the middle of the night for another round. For what it's worth I've booked high end escorts who were pretty, provide excellent service and delivered that service all night. Not that I can f*ck all night, but from beginning to end we were either screwing or cuddling and kissing, and when I was exhausted they massaged, caressed and coaxed me until I was ready for another round. I think their ability to keep me going all night was a source of pride for them.
Thanks again, Paul
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 02:49
To Paul.
I think tipping is up to customer if they got good service from the girl, the girl at Annie ask and demand for a tip even service is bad that is why I no longer go there extra service charge should be there tip, I go to Tulip they never ask for extra tip and I alway get good service there is up to the customer.
Fast Eddie 48Fast,
Absolutely.
As I mention in my reply to Natty's post, I remember when the girls never named a price or asked for a tip. They were sweet, not at all mercenary and trusted me to treat them fairly. I think we're the ones who spoiled a good thing.
I think of Tulip as a Bangkok institution. It's been a few years since I went there so I can only rely on what I read. Damn I wish I knew about ISG a few years ago. Tulip's ladies' performances sound as raw and kinky as ever. The only criticisms seem to be that some of the ladies are getting pretty old and are not the prettiest gals in town. I plan to find out for myself in December.
Paul
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 03:00
I've had completely different experiences but agree it is not rocket science:
Guy with the red umbrella,
It seems you and Natty agree it's 800 plus 1500 plus a small tip for good service.
1. Oilies [mango, cherry, tulip, snow white] all used to charge 800 for two hrs and no minimum tip but everyone knew to give at least 1500. Then some idiots underpaid, so now the standard charge is the 2300, plus whatever extra you wish to tip.This is why I get p*ssed at the smart ass dumb asses who like to stiff the girls. See also my two previous posts about what it was like twenty years ago when the girls were sweeter and more trusting, and the grass was greener and the skies were bluer. Etcetera. Etcetera. And you should hear my high school chums talk about what Pattaya was like in '70 when they were on R&R.
Paul
P.S. I'll be impressed if you know what I mean by the red umbrella.
Guy with the red umbrella,
It seems you and Natty agree it's 800 plus 1500 plus a small tip for good service.
This is why I get p*ssed at the smart ass dumb asses who like to stiff the girls. See also my two previous posts about what it was like twenty years ago when the girls were sweeter and more trusting, and the grass was greener and the skies were bluer. Etcetera. Etcetera. And you should hear my high school chums talk about what Pattaya was like in '70 when they were on R&R.
Paul.
P. S. I'll be impressed if you know what I mean by the red umbrella.Stiffing and overpaying are both to be blamed. Either screws up a good thing. One produces resentment and the other sky high expectations.
Fast,
Absolutely.
As I mention in my reply to Natty's post, I remember when the girls never named a price or asked for a tip. They were sweet, not at all mercenary and trusted me to treat them fairly. I think we're the ones who spoiled a good thing.
I think of Tulip as a Bangkok institution. It's been a few years since I went there so I can only rely on what I read. Damn I wish I knew about ISG a few years ago. Tulip's ladies' performances sound as raw and kinky as ever. The only criticisms seem to be that some of the ladies are getting pretty old and are not the prettiest gals in town. I plan to find out for myself in December.
PaulTulip is great for performers, but the ageing talent pool can be quite hard on the eyes these days. When it was the only game in town and all the gals were service oriented, it was marvellous. Of course Baron's really was the best.
Oilies [mango, cherry, tulip, snow white] all used to charge 800 for two hrs and no minimum tip but everyone knew to give at least 1500. Then some idiots underpaid, so now the standard charge is the 2300, plus whatever extra you wish to tip. And multiiple shots is the NORM. A couple of years ago I had 3 shots in two hrs. Getting older and if As always, YMMVBeen a customer for a long time and have never paid upfront. Always hand the total fee to the cashier on my way out: 1900, 2100, or 2300. Never paid or "tipped' over that no matter what the service level and have always had magnificent repeats.
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 04:45
Stiffing and overpaying are both to be blamed. Either screws up a good thing. One produces resentment and the other sky high expectations.Goat,
You're right. A good reason why ISG should be a reliable source for information about tipping norms.
My last trip I was giving the MP something around 2200 to 2500 as I recall; and at the end of the session I gave the girl another 200-300. The girls seemed okay with that. Sounds like I was in the ball park. I didn't know if this was a customary tip at the time. It just seemed about right to me. I now understand that at Mango and Cherry I can expect 800 + 1500, and may wish to tip a couple hundred baht on top of that, which, total cost, is in the same range as what I was paying with tip last December.
I don't mind it when a girl expects a generous tip for performing like a super star. I couple hundred baht more is less than US$10 and encourages her to continue performing at a high level. I get angry with girls who assume a tip for a lackluster performance or a large tip for a mediocre performance. This is why I liked Natty's description of the different amounts he tips depending on the girl's performance.
Paul
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 05:00
Been a customer for a long time and have never paid upfront. Always hand the total fee to the cashier on my way out: 1900, 2100, or 2300. Never paid or "tipped' over that no matter what the service level and have always had magnificent repeats.A while back wasn't their a ruckus about having to pay up front and didn't you report that you refused to go along with this. I also seem to remember the shops claimed they started the practice because too many customers were stiffing them. At least that's what I seem to recall. If I'm correct, I think because you're a regular the shop knows they can trust you. Years ago we always paid on the way out. I paid the shop its fee and then I gave the girl her "tip" as I was leaving.
If I lived in Bangkok and had a few girls I saw on a regular basis, I don't think I'd feel obligated to tip them. Airlines award me frequent flier miles. Businesses I buy large quantities of products from give me volume discounts.
We "tourists" should know the norms and avoid over-tipping, but I don't think we should expect the same treatment as you regulars.
To Paul.
I think tipping is up to customer if they got good service from the girl, the girl at Annie ask and demand for a tip even service is bad that is why I no longer go there extra service charge should be there tip, I go to Tulip they never ask for extra tip and I alway get good service there is up to the customer.
Fast Eddie 48FE,
Just because one girl is bad, you blame them all? Its your right to do as you please. Its not about the place, its about the girl.
1500 (lady fee compulsory) + 600 (establishment fee compulsory + somtam Tip 100 THB)100 Baht tip is suitable for a mamasan / papasan for advice, but to the girl, it demonstrates your class level. I would prefer not to tip her at all rather than a 100 Baht tip.
How long did you live here? LOL
I good service would still be appreciated. The BM who said it is right, "tipping is not part of the Thai culture."This maybe true, but tipping could be part of the Mongers culture. For example if you are American, tipping is ingrained in that society from tipping hairdressers, to the best buy dude who lugs your flat screen into the car, to even door men in NYC condominiums. European, UK, Australian, Asians, Indians, In my experience are not used to giving tips, usually its already added into the upfront costs and mostly only in restaurants. And its not necessary to tip every service provider like it is in the USA. This in turn will reflect on the way we tip when we are outside our societies. Sometimes, we tip more as we want to enhance that stereotype when we are travelling "Americans are good tippers," which in turn creates high expectations for the service providers. Slowly it will turn into a society where every service expects a tip regardless of the price. In my mind a tip is something that is given if service is above and beyond what is required from that service provider. In a 3 star Michelin restaurant you have to expect nothing less that stellar service, so whats the need to tip? Same goes for well established MP's and Escorts. They built their reputation on their service and if it was beyond your expectations, sure by all means leave an appropriate tip. If they performed what was expected of them then you have paid them for their service. Why more? Having grown up in the States I am so used to tipping waiters, regardless of stellar service. Its almost a cultural necessity over there. I was very surprised when I went out for dinner with some of my Thai friends here in BKK, who happen to be very very financially stable and they did not even leave a tip. They even picked up the coins leftover from the change from the bill. And this was extremely stellar service. The waiter was always on our beck and call. This is the norm here. If we change it over-zealously, then we will have to tip everyone and everything like its done in USA.
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 08:20
100 Baht tip is suitable for a mamasan / papasan for advice, but to the girl, it demonstrates your class level. I would prefer not to tip her at all rather than a 100 Baht tip.Szygies,
Natty tips 300-500 for good service and nothing for poor service, on top of the 800 + 1500. Do you think this is reasonable?
Last December I went to couple of places on Soi 24 or 26 that as I recall quoted me something around 2300 to be paid upfront. When we finished I'd give the girls a tip of 300 for fairly good but not stellar service. Do you think this was fair?
I've always tipped the papasan at the Ratchada soapies for help, but I've never tipped the girl at the desk at the oilies around Sukhuhvit. I tip the papasan at the soapies because the first time I went to one it was with some Thai businessmen and that is what they did. At the oilies I've always picked out my own girl and never asked for help other than to make sure the girl offered a BBBJ and a-level, which I usually determined by asking the massage girl. I never felt the girl at the desk did anything to warrant a tip. Do you think this is right?
Thanks, Paul
100 Baht tip is suitable for a mamasan / papasan for advice, but to the girl, it demonstrates your class level. I would prefer not to tip her at all rather than a 100 Baht tip.
LOLYou mean old git! I always drop baht 150 ($5) for the m'san or p'san and regard baht 350 - 500 as the minimum tip for the lady if, and only if, the service meets my expectations. I usually try to explain , politely to a lady if I am not tipping, why I am not tipping.
100 Baht tip is suitable for a mamasan / papasan for advice, but to the girl, it demonstrates your class level. I would prefer not to tip her at all rather than a 100 Baht tip.
How long did you live here? LOL100 baht is 100 baht if they don't want it they can refuse to take it or give it back. I think the prices are getting to high as it is. MHO!
A while back wasn't their a ruckus about having to pay up front and didn't you report that you refused to go along with this. I also seem to remember the shops claimed they started the practice because too many customers were stiffing them. At least that's what I seem to recall. If I'm correct, I think because you're a regular the shop knows they can trust you. Years ago we always paid on the way out. I paid the shop its fee and then I gave the girl her "tip" as I was leaving.
If I lived in Bangkok and had a few girls I saw on a regular basis, I don't think I'd feel obligated to tip them. Airlines award me frequent flier miles. Businesses I buy large quantities of products from give me volume discounts.
We "tourists" should know the norms and avoid over-tipping, but I don't think we should expect the same treatment as you regulars.Paul, you are correct, good memory. Yes, I will not pay upfront. Well, I would pay an oily fee upfront, but not a fee for service.
Had two occasions were this has served me well, not due to bad service, but due to the fact that the gals I had chosen had warts. I had no sexual contact with them and politely told them what was wrong, showed them in Thai on my phone, and left. Glad to report that both gals took a "holiday" and got treatment before coming back to work. Sadly, one had a recurrence, left, and has never returned.
Francesco24
09-01-13, 10:29
I think everyone should be free to tip as much as they want. For sure that will make the girl happy!
Also I don't think that will drive the prices up in itself. Prices will go up anyway as everything else based on offer and demand mostly.
That said, I really think is not good for posters her to give rules about tipping. An advice can be nice, but most people make what they write sound like a rule (and if you tip less than that it makes people sound as shit).
Just for the sake of it, I really would like if some of the guys who like to tip (in the 500 baht range) would just try to go to a new shop / girl and try to repeat her a couple of times without any kind of extra tips and see if you'd get any worse service.
I mean, you are very free to give tips to make the girl more happy (or to make yourself feel better for whatever reason). But it is really not needed if the reason is to expect a better level of service. And before not agreeing with me, please try it yourself a couple of time first.
You mean old git! I always drop baht 150 ($5) for the m'san or p'san and regard baht 350 - 500 as the minimum tip for the lady if, and only if, the service meets my expectations. I usually try to explain , politely to a lady if I am not tipping, why I am not tipping.You clearly missed the point entirely. Sure 350 to 500 is a more suitable tip. If I am going to tip a girl, I would look stupid in her eyes (and mean) to give 100 Baht.
100 baht is 100 baht if they don't want it they can refuse to take it or give it back. I think the prices are getting to high as it is. MHO!Mostly they are too polite to throw it back in your face.
Once I suggested an amount (a little naïvely low) for all night to a high class Soapy girl, and rather than say it was not enough or suggest another amount, she just hung up the phone and would not accept any more calls. LOL Clearly she could get a lot more than what I thought.
The truth is the amount needs to be commensurate with quality of the girl and how desperate she is for money. Guys who think every girl commands exactly the same money are silly in my view, if they want to make special deals outside the standard arrangements.
You clearly missed the point entirely. Sure 350 to 500 is a more suitable tip. If I am going to tip a girl, I would look stupid in her eyes (and mean) to give 100 Baht.I think Baht 100 to the M'san / P'san makes you, politely said with a smile, a miserable old git. $15. $20 (Baht 450-600) is the sort of tip a satisfactory performance warrants.
And I would rather ip generously for satisfactory performance and not atall for sub-standard performance (my totally subjective standards of course). Mediocre performance does not warrant a mediocre tip.
Traveler1234
09-01-13, 12:29
Been a customer for a long time and have never paid upfront. Always hand the total fee to the cashier on my way out: 1900, 2100, or 2300. Never paid or "tipped' over that no matter what the service level and have always had magnificent repeats.I didn't say 'upfront', I said the total fee charged was 2300. Years back, when you finished, cashier would only collect 800 and assume you tipped properly the 1500 to provider. Now they ask for 2300 . If you gave the 1500 in the room, she'll then just take the 800.
And yes, I've never paid up front to any shop or girl; always afterwards. Only exception are the soapy MP; some collect upfront, others afterwards.
Mostly they are too polite to throw it back in your face.
Once I suggested an amount (a little naïvely low) for all night to a high class Soapy girl, and rather than say it was not enough or suggest another amount, she just hung up the phone and would not accept any more calls. LOL Clearly she could get a lot more than what I thought.
The truth is the amount needs to be commensurate with quality of the girl and how desperate she is for money. Guys who think every girl commands exactly the same money are silly in my view, if they want to make special deals outside the standard arrangements.I have had a girl. I think she was from Eden. Who actually asked for a tip. Very strange I thought considering the price for their services. I gave her about 200 I think. She left with it no complaints.
AssLover945
09-01-13, 15:30
Some people have called me low class, dumbass, smart ass etc etc. If I pay 100 bahts somtam tip I am low class. If someone pays 300 Bahts (less than 10 US Dollars, as said by Paul) he becomes high class?
Hahaha Enjoy guys
Give whatever you feel like guys. Lets all enjoy with whatever makes you feel good. Even if I give 100 Bahts for somtam, I am still welcome by the same girl, because repeat business is more worth than one time customer.
But whatever be the conclusion I have made my point about tipping.
I think Baht 100 to the M'san / P'san makes you, politely said with a smile, a miserable old git. $15. $20 (Baht 450-600) is the sort of tip a satisfactory performance warrants.
And I would rather ip generously for satisfactory performance and not atall for sub-standard performance (my totally subjective standards of course). Mediocre performance does not warrant a mediocre tip.okay What you wrote before was certainly not clear as to which thing was making me a "Miserable old git", and being a joke, I assume many others missed the point too. I did not say I tip the mamasan / papasan 100 Baht either, only that it was the sort of tip range. It depends on the level of assist.
Your latest post now suggests you would tip the P'san 450-600 Baht for a satisfactory performance. He didn't give you a hand job! I guess you don't mean that either and was supposed to be relevant to the girl.
Your last point. You tip generously for satisfactory performance. That's just you or me. I am sure we are both generous by standards of the mean force. For me she gets what she deserves. Good performance should be rewarded. Others argue she will get more business anyway, but I don't want to a see a good looker with crap performance get same money as a girl with great performance.
Paul Kausch
09-01-13, 18:42
Some people have called me low class, dumbass, smart ass etc etc. If I pay 100 bahts somtam tip I am low class. If someone pays 300 Bahts (less than 10 US Dollars, as said by Paul) he becomes high class?
How much street food will that extra 200 buy? In a USA restaurant if I tip 7% I insult the waiter if I got good service. If I tip 20% the server feels I left a fair tip.
How much street food will that extra 200 buy? In a USA restaurant if I tip 7% I insult the waiter if I got good service. If I tip 20% the server feels I left a fair tip.2. 100 baht buys a lot of street food if you know where to go.
3. This is not the States.
4. Remember they are carrying I-phones, hell they are earning plenty or are not spending wisely.
Paul Kausch
09-02-13, 01:42
2. 100 baht buys a lot of street food if you know where to go.
3. This is not the States.
4. Remember they are carrying I-phones, hell they are earning plenty or are not spending wisely.The point of the restaurant tip is 1/3 of a standard tip is pretty insulting for good service.
I have had a girl . I think she was from Eden. Who actually asked for a tip. Very strange I thought considering the price for their services. I gave her about 200 I think. She left with it no complaints.Yeh, that's Eden class girl.
4. Remember they are carrying I-phones, hell they are earning plenty or are not spending wisely.It's not your business as to what a girl spends her money on, or where she got her iphone. However assuming she can afford one (and many can't) it shows that a 100 Baht tip ("taxi money") will mean little to her. A top girl can make 100K per month, so some are making plenty, others are struggling. I think there are more massage girls than customers sometimes.
Paul Kausch
09-02-13, 03:31
That said, I really think is not good for posters here to give rules about tipping.
Remember they are carrying I-phones, hell they are earning plenty or are not spending wisely.
It's not your business as to what a girl spends her money on, or where she got her iphone. However assuming she can afford one (and many can't) it shows that a 100 Baht tip ("taxi money") will mean little to her. A top girl can make 100K per month, so some are making plenty, others are struggling. I think there are more massage girls than customers sometimes.Personally, I'm not looking for tipping rules. I just want to have a sense of what other guys tip to guide me. I don't want to tip too much or too little.
As Syzygies points out, many SW make very little. A while back I wrote a post that contained part of a conversation between two real MP girls who worked at a Ratchada soapy. These girls shared a room about the size of a large walkin closet. On the way to work one said to the other: "I hope I get a customer tonight." At the other extreme I know an escort in Bangkok who over the last couple of years has made enough money to buy herself a new Toyota sedan and her father a new Toyota pickup, taking advantage of the government program to encourage vehicle purchases. Now she is building a nice house for her family in Udon Thani. And she's paid cash on the barrel for all of this. Smart girl.
Bottom line, it's none of our business how they spend their money. It's a question of how much the service is worth. They rent their bodies to us for a couple of hours. If they give us pleasure, how much is that pleasure worth? It's in our selfish interests that they earn a good wage. We want attractive young women to see being a SW and pleasing men well as a good way to make good money.
Ask yourself. Is a guy making enough money to blow a couple hundred thousand baht on Bangkok hookers a couple times a year being over compensated for the work he does? I think we'd all agree, it's no one else's business what he does with his disposable income. It may be foolish to spend money on hookers rather than saving for his retirement, but that's his choice.
Michelangelo
09-02-13, 07:25
Is this about tipping or about Oilies?
It's not your business as to what a girl spends her money on, or where she got her iphone. However assuming she can afford one (and many can't) it shows that a 100 Baht tip ("taxi money") will mean little to her. A top girl can make 100K per month, so some are making plenty, others are struggling. I think there are more massage girls than customers sometimes.Her phone is a bad indicator to gauge how much she makes. Most of the time, these are gifts or even "tips" by fellow mongers. Sure they can make a healthy penny, but I think this only applies to some popular MP girls and escorts. I feel there is a lot of competition on the bar girl side of things. I know most gogo girls, especially from a club like baccara have a sugar daddy, most likely a jap taking good care of their needs. I once pulled a girl from Shark who said she has a Japanese customer, who never has sex with her, just pays her for her time, lets her lounge about in his luxury hotel, go shopping on his expense card and all that stuff. So she may get a lot of fancy gifts but I highly doubt many make hardcore cash money.
After a recommendation from Apple for girls who give great rim jobs and are spectacular anal performers, I decided to go with Candy. Called her over for an overnight.
I called Cherry's quite late, maybe about 5 minutes before they actually closed. A girl picked up the phone and said there was only Candy available. What luck. Just who I wanted. Asked her to send her over. Later I found out the gal who answered the phone was actually Candy herself.
It took a while for her to find my hotel. For a second I thought she bailed, but apparently there was a confusion with the hotel receptionist. Heck it don't matter. She showed up!
Like the pictures she was on par face wise, but not the body. She is "thick" but fat does not come to mind. I know for some guys this is the ideal size for a girl. Great ass, full and rounded. Looks like it can take a good pounding. I prefer the tall, skinny types myself, but always open to a new body types (within reason).
One stellar thing about this girl is her attitude. It's just really bubbly and friendly and I feel that's her true personality. She is not just putting up an act. Also her English is good. You can actually converse with her and she gets what you are saying. Which helps me get into the girl a bit more.
Onwards to the action!
Usual stuff. Shower, with a nice cleaning in the nether regions. Boom! Onto the bed. She wastes no time. Some DFK and then went down to spend some time with the boys. God. She was good. Very very wet. My balls were dripping. Maybe it's a personal choice but I have a thing for very wet, salivating BBBJ's and she provided.
This transformed into a rimjob par none. She has this spectacular way of giving a rimjob all the while making sure my dick is still wet and dripping. Fantastic. It's hard to explain. Just try her. It seems to me like she enjoys it too. That's a plus for me. I always repeat on a girl who enjoys (or does an excellent job pretending) to lick my ass and make it as kinky as possible. That's my gauge for a good performer.
First pop with not even a fuck. She was that good down there. After, she got out of the bed, walked towards me, turned her ass to my face and uttered "next round, you go in here." Needless to say I was a giddy camper that night. Bangkok this Friday. Defo a repeat.
Wolf Hound
09-02-13, 14:23
Nice report Morris. She has unfortunately now left Cherry Massage.
AssLover945
09-02-13, 16:57
Nice report Morris. She has unfortunately now left Cherry Massage.She still works
AssLover945
09-02-13, 16:59
The point of the restaurant tip is 1/3 of a standard tip is pretty insulting for good service.So now you wanker have decided to set the standard for tipping a WG?
LOLOL nice job!
Enjoy being your own boss
You are seriously hilarious man!
Paul Kausch
09-02-13, 18:40
So now you wanker have decided to set the standard for tipping a WG?
LOLOL nice job!
Enjoy being your own boss
You are seriously hilarious man!Dear Ass,
Again, huh? Are you drunk or do you have diminished mental capacity?
I would have expected even a simpleton to understand my point. Let me make it very, very clear. Person deserves standard tip. Person gets one-third standard tip. Person mad. Whether the amount of the tip is THB500 or US$50 is irrelevant. By the way, irrelevant means not applicable or pertinent. Do I need to define pertinent for you?
Sincerely, PK
personally, i'm not looking for tipping rules. i just want to have a sense of what other guys tip to guide me. i don't want to tip too much or too little.
as syzygies points out, many sw make very little. a while back i wrote a post that contained part of a conversation between two real mp girls who worked at a ratchada soapy. these girls shared a room about the size of a large walkin closet. on the way to work one said to the other: "i hope i get a customer tonight." at the other extreme i know an escort in bangkok who over the last couple of years has made enough money to buy herself a new toyota sedan and her father a new toyota pickup, taking advantage of the government program to encourage vehicle purchases. now she is building a nice house for her family in udon thani. and she's paid cash on the barrel for all of this. smart girl.
bottom line, it's none of our business how they spend their money. it's a question of how much the service is worth. they rent their bodies to us for a couple of hours. if they give us pleasure, how much is that pleasure worth? it's in our selfish interests that they earn a good wage. we want attractive young women to see being a sw and pleasing men well as a good way to make good money.
ask yourself. is a guy making enough money to blow a couple hundred thousand baht on bangkok hookers a couple times a year being over compensated for the work he does? i think we'd all agree, it's no one else's business what he does with his disposable income. it may be foolish to spend money on hookers rather than saving for his retirement, but that's his choice.paul-you might find some of the data i collected interesting regarding tips to massage shops. to determine how much my working gf actually made i had her keep an accurate record from july 24 to august 22 of number of customers and time with each plus tips if any. included was the 100 baht in house or 200 baht outcall for each hour paid by the shop out of the 400 or 500 baht shop charge. 1500 baht was paid directly to her and expected if she got naked regardless of the service provided. the numbers here reflect about a month after she took 5 weeks off work and wasn't back up to speed and in contact with repeat customers which is much of her business. also it is the off season and business was slow.
total number of customers: 62x1500 for services =93, 000 baht.
hours charged 78. 5 and fee paid by shop=7, 150 baht.
tips=21,500.
total income for period=121,650 average tip per hour worked= 275 baht and average tip per customer =346 baht. the amount of tips ranged from zero to 4000. never once did she complain of the amount of the tip or lack of with the 1500 service charge being the key and sometimes misunderstood for a tip instead of a service charge.
It's not your business as to what a girl spends her money on, or where she got her iphone. However assuming she can afford one (and many can't) it shows that a 100 Baht tip ("taxi money") will mean little to her. A top girl can make 100K per month, so some are making plenty, others are struggling. I think there are more massage girls than customers sometimes.Some of you say to tip more but at the same time you brag about a 700 baht BJ or a 800 baht f*k on beach road? Which is it great value or spend spend spend?
Wolf Hound
09-03-13, 02:43
Ass Lover 945, I can assure you she does not. I was in there yesterday afternoon chatting to the girls and manager.
You are a very rude little man. Are you in Bangkok now? Would love to meet for a coffee.
Is this about tipping or about Oilies?Oil is a lubricant.
A tip is a lubricant too in many cases.
Some of you say to tip more but at the same time you brag about a 700 baht BJ or a 800 baht f*k on beach road? Which is it great value or spend spend spend?No I don't brag about a super cheap BJ. I don't even state my price normally. Some guys have compassion for the girl. Others don't. That's easy. Some guys want to do the girl one time and treat her badly. Others like me may want to meet her many times, and have her actually eager to go with me. Bar girls make a bee-line for me as I treat then well. I help them with their monthly drink sales quotas. I pay them well. They have a good time. I take them away from the gogo dancing boredom. If they have to work harder than normal they might get extra above normal payment. I am not trying to pay minimum dollar for a piece of meat to stick my cock in.
Some of my regular girls become like a semi-girlfriend in a way (yes I know a real GF is not supposed to cost money). We can have a good time together, but neither party has issues with the other fucking other people. Okay I know the girls are hard up and have bills to meet, so I am helping with that, in a fair way, by paying for their time. Plenty of them like the sex too. Those who think the girls never get it off are naïve just like those who think the girl enjoys every fuck. They enjoy it sometimes. Some bar girls are actually quite horny little things, even if they don't want to admit it.
Its just my style. Other guys do things completely differently and its all about getting a fuck for the lowest possible money. I have limited time for mongering. I therefore want a dream girl, and the best price is not so important. My time is more valuable than my money. For others completely the opposite is true. I suppose I am a semi-tourist monger as only live in Thailand 4 months of each year, and much of my time is in family situation and I have to work. I cannot monger every day like retired guys.
My real GF comes from a poor background, limited schooling, and doesn't speak English. 8 years together, on and off. She grows plants and sews clothes, and has spent a lot of time nursing a dying father. In the end, she costs far more than my mongering girls do, on a per fuck basis. I am not fortunate to have a rich GF. A younger sexy thing like my GF, if had plenty of money, would never be selecting the likes of me. LOL I am a boring old fuck always stuck on the computer. In the end mongering makes sense to me (as a sex addict).
Don't think for a minute that 100 Baht is a really good tip for a girl after great sex session. Even drinks waitresses can get a 100 Baht tip on occasions, and they did not have to fuck. Even a papasan might get a 200 Baht tip on occasions for giving you just a few minutes of his time and assistance.
Some guys go into a bar and they waste money on a basket of ping pong balls to throw around. For each ping pong ball collected, the girl makes 50% and the bar gets 50. What a waste. Its much better to buy selected girls a drink to help with their monthly quota, or give them a cash tip.
Some girls who get BFed a lot will never make their monthly drink quota and so may not care about the drink slips and give them away to friends. Its good to know what each girl's agenda is, I. E. Does she want a commission drink or does she want a beer instead.
Phil Fogg88
09-03-13, 09:03
Hi,
About halfway between Sukh and the Grand President, there are a few girls on the sidewalk who tout a massage parlor, which is apparently located inside a little mall / covered shopping gallery. Several of the gals are quite attractive, and the way they're dressed (not uniforms though) I assume that they also are the massage girls.
Is there a thread in this forum on this subject? I looked it up with "Soi 11" as a keyword (I don't know the name of the parlor) but I didn't get any results on that search. I'm looking for basic info on whether or not it's a viable option or a clip joint.
Thanks in advance for any info.
P
AssLover945
09-03-13, 16:00
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
AssLover945
09-03-13, 16:10
Ass Lover 945, I can assure you she does not. I was in there yesterday afternoon chatting to the girls and manager.
You are a very rude little man. Are you in Bangkok now? Would love to meet for a coffee.I called up just now, she is indeed taking a break, I was told she will be back soon.
Wolf I didn't mean to be rude man. Cheers.
Paul Kausch
09-03-13, 17:52
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Paul Kausch
09-03-13, 18:14
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
You misuse words.
You'd really need to raise your level, but with some hard work and practice you could learn to be the dummy?Even dummies have some intelligence. I would not give up your day job and become a ventriloquist with this poster as your dummy.
Wolvenvacht
09-03-13, 19:47
(yes I know a real GF is not supposed to cost money)Sure man! Isn't that what we all wish?
If I calculate what I spend on my Thai GF (mainly her and her daughter's travel costs to Europe, the excursions we make here, the presents for them and the family) , I can get a lot of pussy (even at German FKK prices) , but I think every penny is well spend on her. Love and mongering are two different things and many would do well to keep that in mind.
Hi. About halfway between Sukh and the Grand President, there are a few girls on the sidewalk who tout a massage parlor, which is apparently located inside a little mall / covered shopping gallery. Several of the gals are quite attractive. Snip-
Thanks in advance for any info.
PHi Phil. I wrote a report on these MPs a few years ago, but if I can't find it, don't bother to search. (The report may have been deleted along with many others in one of the Forum "clean up" actions.) I went into one of the shops actually wanting a foot massage, ended up getting laid in the back room, on-the-floor mattress situation. Nice looking lady, older than you might (or I might) think. A few weeks or months later, I ran into the same woman on the street, took her back to my room for another romp. I doubt she is still working, but her working name is Apple and worth the time. TTG
Paul Kausch
09-04-13, 01:07
Sure man! Isn't that what we all wish?
If I calculate what I spend on my Thai GF (mainly her and her daughter's travel costs to Europe, the excursions we make here, the presents for them and the family) , I can get a lot of pussy (even at German FKK prices) , but I think every penny is well spend on her. Love and mongering are two different things and many would do well to keep that in mind.How true. In the long run hookers are cheaper f*cks, but only a fool expects to find love with a hooker. It may happen. You may win the lottery. More likely you'll get struck by lightening. Love is so illusive. If you are lucky enough to find it and keep it, it is priceless.
Paul Kausch
09-04-13, 01:09
Even dummies have some intelligence. I would not give up your day job and become a ventriloquist with this poster as your dummy.Good advice. On second thought, should he try to take me up on the offer, I think I'll decline.
Phil Fogg88
09-04-13, 08:04
Hi Phil. I wrote a report on these MPs a few years ago, but if I can't find it, don't bother to search. (The report may have been deleted along with many others in one of the Forum "clean up" actions.) I went into one of the shops actually wanting a foot massage, ended up getting laid in the back room, on-the-floor mattress situation. Nice looking lady, older than you might (or I might) think. A few weeks or months later, I ran into the same woman on the street, took her back to my room for another romp. I doubt she is still working, but her working name is Apple and worth the time. TTGHi TTG, Thanks for the reply. I see the gals in the street showing a massage price list, and a few more under the "gallery" at what I suppose is the shop's entrance; they're dressed like streetwalkers, so it doesn't quite look like the standard mp setup, hence my curiosity.
P
Hi TTG, Thanks for the reply. I see the gals in the street showing a massage price list, and a few more under the "gallery" at what I suppose is the shop's entrance; they're dressed like streetwalkers, so it doesn't quite look like the standard mp setup, hence my curiosity.
PSee report #10769 in the Bangkok thread. Goes back to 2010 and I picked up the 2d girl in the late great Big Mango Bar. TTG
How true. In the long run hookers are cheaper f*cks, but only a fool expects to find love with a hooker. It may happen. You may win the lottery. More likely you'll get struck by lightening. Love is so illusive. If you are lucky enough to find it and keep it, it is priceless.Hookers do fall in love, but not because the guy is a good fuck LOL. As long as sex and love are not confused. They are somewhat unrelated.
As to priceless, I would say pricey more so, and just a damn nuisance.
Plenty of my regular girls are great fucks but would make terrible GFs. Take them in very short doses is better.
Hookers do fall in love, but not because the guy is a good fuck LOL. As long as sex and love are not confused. They are somewhat unrelated.
As to priceless, I would say pricey more so, and just a damn nuisance.
Plenty of my regular girls are great fucks but would make terrible GFs. Take them in very short doses is better.Love comes with LT. Sex with ST!
Too many who take a WG long time wake up feeling 'in love. ' but getting a wake-up BJ is not love but just more sex (for the extra tip* you are going to give her).
*See extensive discussion on tips!
Regular girls for regular (ST) fucks is cheaper than 'love. '
MasterKama
09-05-13, 18:32
Hi,
About halfway between Sukh and the Grand President, there are a few girls on the sidewalk who tout a massage parlor, which is apparently located inside a little mall / covered shopping gallery. Several of the gals are quite attractive, and the way they're dressed (not uniforms though) I assume that they also are the massage girls.
Is there a thread in this forum on this subject? I looked it up with "Soi 11" as a keyword (I don't know the name of the parlor) but I didn't get any results on that search. I'm looking for basic info on whether or not it's a viable option or a clip joint.
Thanks in advance for any info.
PThose girls at the spot you refer to carry on their massage business in a long, varied and interesting row of small shops lining a corridor around the Ambassador Hotel. I am not sure if you could really sink into a tranquiil massage in a cramped shop. No sir. Those are really meant for extras and the like, going all the way to full service. Not saying they're not good. I have been there a few times and was catered to well on two out of three occasions. Those girls are good and do their best to satisfy you. But I wouldn't advise it if you are looking for a genuine massage ahead of the X action. But do go if you have no illusions and are up for a quickie. Be forewarned though. I did say it's a varied selection, didn't I? You just might land up with a really cute looking chick and then, when there is no turning back, you realise that she is. Err. Ahem. Well, it was enjoyable damnit.
Paul Kausch
09-05-13, 19:29
Hookers do fall in love, but not because the guy is a good fuck LOL. As long as sex and love are not confused. They are somewhat unrelated.
As to priceless, I would say pricey more so, and just a damn nuisance.
Plenty of my regular girls are great fucks but would make terrible GFs. Take them in very short doses is better.I'm not suggesting hookers don't fall in love. I think their profession makes some of them even more more needy for love. I'm referring to the stereotypical poor old and overweight punters who fall in love with a gogo bar girl and gets taken to the cleaners. When it comes to my own life I've transitioned from looking for love to being cynical about love to enjoying the freedom that comes with being happily single. Still, I've known a few people who were truly in love and in very happy life-long relationships. I think they are very lucky. They are very rare.
When it comes to ladies you succinctly sum up my attitudes and practices. I have a few long term female friends. I don't have sex with them. For sex partners I like variety. A few f*cks with one girl and I'm ready to move on to then next. If she was very good, after a break it's nice to hook up again, but after awhile I tend to get bored with the same girl.
Paul Kausch
09-05-13, 19:31
Love comes with LT. Sex with ST!That's one of the best one-liners I've read recently. Bravo!
Traveler1234
09-05-13, 19:31
This thread is getting BORING. :(
Phil Fogg88
09-06-13, 09:23
See report #10769 in the Bangkok thread. Goes back to 2010 and I picked up the 2d girl in the late great Big Mango Bar. TTGHi T,
Thanks, but that number does not compute.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports/page74
Phil Fogg88
09-06-13, 09:35
Those girls at the spot you refer to carry on their massage business in a long, varied and interesting row of small shops lining a corridor around the Ambassador Hotel. I am not sure if you could really sink into a tranquiil massage in a cramped shop. No sir. Those are really meant for extras and the like, going all the way to full service. Not saying they're not good. I have been there a few times and was catered to well on two out of three occasions. Those girls are good and do their best to satisfy you. But I wouldn't advise it if you are looking for a genuine massage ahead of the X action. But do go if you have no illusions and are up for a quickie. Be forewarned though. I did say it's a varied selection, didn't I? You just might land up with a really cute looking chick and then, when there is no turning back, you realise that she is. Err. Ahem. Well, it was enjoyable damnit.Hi MK,
It sounds like the right spot, and I might give it a shot (while heeding your warning) , if only because I walk by there quite often and what the hell.
Thanks,
P
MasterKama
09-06-13, 15:43
When it comes to my own life I've transitioned from looking for love to being cynical about love to enjoying the freedom that comes with being happily single . For sex partners I like variety. A few f*cks with one girl and I'm ready to move on to then next. If she was very good, after a break it's nice to hook up again, but after awhile I tend to get bored with the same girl.You're a man after my own heart, Paul. I have gone through the same transition and your words fit me to a T!
MasterKama
09-06-13, 15:59
This is on the main Sukhumvit road somewhere between Phrom Phong and ThongLo stations, on the even side. Has a glass door and a massage menu displayed outside. Since I was trudging up and down in the hot sun a couple of times looking for a spa that I had seen in this stretch several years ago, and didn't find it eventually, I decided to try out this. A fairly clean place with reclining chairs on the road level with an upstairs room with attached shower. A middle aged slim lady catered to me. While asking me to shower she left a black disposable underwear on the bed to change into and I kissed all thoughts of a hedonistic ending goodbye. I must say this is the first time ever in Thailand that I have been given a disposable skivvy to wear for a massage and I felt distinctly slighted even!
But I made bold to ask the lady if it was alright to not wear it. She gave that unique Thai reply "Up to you" and I was pleased again. The massage was fairly good, her soft hands sloshing oil all over my bare back, legs, thighs. I was pleasantly surprised at her handwork. Deftly she grazed and suddenly action began hotting up. She gave me a great HJ for 500 Baht. The bonus was allowing me to feel her up which so aroused her that she lifted her top and bra and let me play with her tits. Then when I ventured to pull her pants down she readily obliged and pulled down her panty as well. As I fingered and massaged her pussy she stiffened, groaned then came in a copious flood all over my fingers. What a gem.
Guys I am not into the typical massage scene so I got some queries this time, Guys I m in Bangkok and ready to try atleast 3 to 4 massage parlors this time specifically between Phom Phong and Thonglor. The posts I read previously read about Mango massage and Snow White clearly indicates me that guys have a standard of 1500 tip for full service inclusive of anal if the girl is into it. Many guys here have posted they got 2 to 3 pops easily during a massage session of 1 5hr or 2hr. My question is. Did they get all the deal for 1500 tip? I mean I know the massage parlor charges of 90mins or 120min are an for the parlor and fixed charges. But other than that. Tipping a girl 1500 got all the package with it 3pops with anal. Damn. Thats value for money, I would like someone to shed light on this. So its 600+1500=2100thb for so much fun of 90mins? WoW.
Damn! 3 pops. You guys are fit.
Well I would like to try myself out as well and see if I can blow up three times as well. LOL
I mean I know the massage parlor charges of 90mins or 120min are an for the parlor and fixed charges. But other than that. Tipping a girl 1500 got all the package with it 3pops with anal. Damn. Thats value for money, I would like someone to shed light on this. So its 600+1500=2100thb for so much fun of 90mins?Yes, you've got the concept and the arithmetic.
Paul Kausch
09-07-13, 00:38
You're a man after my own heart, Paul. I have gone through the same transition and your words fit me to a T!Thanks.
My take is that society messes with our biological imperative. Our life's mission is to impregnate as many women as possible. Or at least go through the motions. I few f*cks should be sufficient to accomplish that; if not, she's not fertile so it doesn't matter. Regardless it's time to move on, find another f*ck and get her pregnant. In contrast, the woman wants to ensure she and her child's survival so she tries to keep us around for food and protection. Society advances; children need a father and role model; families are formed; fidelity is a virtue; sex, love and responsibilities get all mixed up; life gets complicated.
Guess I've learned to enjoy thinking and behaving like a primitive, uncivilized man. Ha ha!
Guys I am not into the typical massage scene so I got some queries this time, Guys I m in Bangkok and ready to try atleast 3 to 4 massage parlors this time specifically between Phom Phong and Thonglor. The posts I read previously read about Mango massage and Snow White clearly indicates me that guys have a standard of 1500 tip for full service inclusive of anal if the girl is into it. Many guys here have posted they got 2 to 3 pops easily during a massage session of 1 5hr or 2hr. My question is. Did they get all the deal for 1500 tip? I mean I know the massage parlor charges of 90mins or 120min are an for the parlor and fixed charges. But other than that. Tipping a girl 1500 got all the package with it 3pops with anal. Damn. Thats value for money, I would like someone to shed light on this. So its 600+1500=2100thb for so much fun of 90mins? WoW.
Damn! 3 pops. You guys are fit.
Well I would like to try myself out as well and see if I can blow up three times as well. LOLIn one of the shops mentioned there are basically three parts to the transaction. The first is with the shop. They charge the customer 400 baht per hour for use of the facilities and that is all they are interested in. The lady gets 100 baht per hour of that. Second is the service charge of 1500 baht, not to be confused with the tip. This is expected by her if she gets naked no matter what service you want after that. The key here is if she gets naked. She keeps all of the service charge but has to pay the shop to work there. 260 baht for the first customer of the day and 70 baht for each after that. She also has to pay for all supplies such as condoms, oil, soap, mouthwash, boxes of tissues, HIV tests etc. Which really add up. The third is the tip. Thats up to you but if you are getting three pops and give 100 baht that doesn't even cover the cost of the condoms. Also, if you are the first guy of the day they are actually only getting about 1100-1200 (35USD) baht after expenses. Not a lot for some great sex. I have a "GF" who works in the industry and gets tips that range from nothing (fairly common) to 4000 baht. The high end generally from repeat customers. Regarding the anal, a lot depends on how big you are, if you seem aggressive, if they are hurting from a previous encounter or maybe not feel well or if they have had a negative experience from you during a previous visit. If so, most of them will know about you.
When it comes to ladies you succinctly sum up my attitudes and practices. I have a few long term female friends. I don't have sex with them. For sex partners I like variety. A few f*cks with one girl and I'm ready to move on to then next. If she was very good, after a break it's nice to hook up again, but after awhile I tend to get bored with the same girl.This is where I don't quite agree. I must be a weird one. I still enjoy fucking a Soapy girl I first did maybe 8 to 10 years ago. There is one girl in home country I still do occasionally after maybe 20 years.
I am moving more and more towards getting new girls, but I don't see any reason to blow them off, if they are still brilliant. The top 5 to 10% are worth hanging on to. What makes a new girl better? The continual urge to find a better girl will start being unsuccessful more often than not.
I know there is male instinct to impregnate everything that moves but I think I got past that somewhat.
Yes, you've got the concept and the arithmetic.thanks dude! Actually been into mongering scene in patts for quite sometime, but would you guys believe me if I said I never ever tried the MP side. Yes! I v never been with a massage chick, well this is it now. I am quite bored of the typical just sex scene of patts and now decided that this time its going to be BKK only as I am busy with some work. So its going to be a a guy who knows the mongering scene of bargirl / gogos / fl but is a newbie for a massage parlor scene.
Any advise guys could give about Mango or Snowwhite. Some do's and dont's? LOL
Paul Kausch
09-07-13, 05:05
This is where I don't quite agree.
I am moving more and more towards getting new girls, but I don't see any reason to blow them off, if they are still brilliant. The top 5 to 10% are worth hanging on to. What makes a new girl better? The continual urge to find a better girl will start being unsuccessful more often than not.
I know there is male instinct to impregnate everything that moves but I think I got past that somewhat.In what way are we in disagreement? In my previous post I wrote: "For sex partners I like variety. A few f*cks with one girl and I'm ready to move on to then next. If she was very good, after a break it's nice to hook up again, but after awhile I tend to get bored with the same girl."
You like to find new girls. I like variety. I think we are saying the same thing. You like to hang on to the best ones. After a break, I like to return to the very good ones. Sounds about the same to me.
I think you do make two very good points I did not touch on in my post. The first is the frustration that follows continually trying to find a better girl. That is a dangerous trap to fall into. I'm no longer trying to find a better girl. A few years after my divorce I learned that as I moved from my ex to the first girl friend, to the second girlfriend, etc. I was just trading one set of good and bad qualities for a different set of good and bad qualities, and I was never satisfied, Then I had an epiphany. I realized the problem was me. I simply was not happy in a long term relationship. Next I discovered I really enjoyed my own company: the freedom to do more or less as I pleased, not feeling burdened by the demands of a relationship. This freedom did mean I had to continually look for women to temporarily satisfy my sexual needs, but I discovered this was easier (and cheaper) as an unencumbered single man.
As I age I am starting to notice a change in me. Now that I'm in my 60's sex is like a long drink of cool, crisp water when I'm thirsty rather than a desperate gasp for air when I'm out of breath, which is the second point I really liked in your post. As we grow older and our testosterone levels diminish and we are less driven by our biological imperative to procreate.
Syzygies, as always, I enjoy your posts.
MasterKama
09-07-13, 08:45
This is where I don't quite agree. I must be a weird one. I still enjoy fucking a Soapy girl I first did maybe 8 to 10 years ago. There is one girl in home country I still do occasionally after maybe 20 years. I am moving more and more towards getting new girls, but I don't see any reason to blow them off, if they are still brilliant. The top 5 to 10% are worth hanging on to. What makes a new girl better? The continual urge to find a better girl will start being unsuccessful more often than not. I know there is male instinct to impregnate everything that moves but I think I got past that somewhat.Syzygies, I guess the continuous urge is to find a "different" girl rather than a "better" girl. I cannot say if this applies to the male as a species. I only know what drives my urge and since it matches so closely with Paul's, I guess this is what drives his as well. I have often found myself wondering why, after thoroughly enjoying a session with a bargirl or a massage girl, and rating her as one among my finest experiences, I don't feel the urge to return to her too many times. Maybe some would view this as typical of a conquistador, but I would explain it as typical of an explorer rather. Having tasted an exciting little food you move on in search of more variety. As Paul put it, I might come back for another lick or munch, then another, but not too many times. For me it would be foolish to let one exciting sexual session descend into the monotony of routine. Hell, we already have our marriages to achieve that same result!
Any one could advice me a heavy squirting girl in a massage shop? I would love to discover this pleasure.
Thanks for help.
The expected payment levels for services is really:
500 baht for a HJ.
1000 baht for a BJ.
1500 baht for Full Service.
If you go to Snow White / Tulip / Cherry the 1500b level is expected, and most punters just go for that. As you are going to the room tell the girl you want a "special massage" so she knows you are not some lost newbie, and take it from there.
SunLover
Thanks.
My take is that society messes with our biological imperative. Our life's mission is to impregnate as many women as possible. Or at least go through the motions. I few f*cks should be sufficient to accomplish that; if not, she's not fertile so it doesn't matter. Regardless it's time to move on, find another f*ck and get her pregnant. In contrast, the woman wants to ensure she and her child's survival so she tries to keep us around for food and protection. Society advances; children need a father and role model; families are formed; fidelity is a virtue; sex, love and responsibilities get all mixed up; life gets complicated.
Guess I've learned to enjoy thinking and behaving like a primitive, uncivilized man. Ha ha!That's why chimps have such big balls, need lots of sperm to impregnate all those red assed females.
Slim
How true. In the long run hookers are cheaper f*cks, but only a fool expects to find love with a hooker. It may happen. You may win the lottery. More likely you'll get struck by lightening. Love is so illusive. If you are lucky enough to find it and keep it, it is priceless.Love is so hard to find because it's not some object lying around somewhere on the street. Love is good feelings within a relationship, and a relationship is something you build, create, and maintain rather than find.
Expecting to find love is like expecting to find shelter somewhere in the jungle. Sure, you might find something that's better than nothing. But it can never be as good as something you deliberately build, create, and maintain.
Some recent studies have found that both men and women get a surge of the Oxytocin hormone and Dopamine in their body during sex and physical affection. Which affect people's brains and makes them bond emotionally with each other. But orgasm brings down the levels of these neurochemicals and stops their effects.
Which means that having lengthy massage sessions and sex that doesn't lead to orgasm for a long time is liable to make you fall in love with the lady and her with you. Orgasm brings down these neurochemicals and stops the bonding process. But if the lady rejuvinates you with her mouth and hands and gets you to ride her for your second orgasm, then this causes another surge of the neurochemicals and the bonding process restarts.
Basically, prolonged sex and affection that doesn't lead to loss of sexual desire is what leads to emotional bonding, also known as love. But to make this love mutual and not just one-sided, you need to please the lady as much as she pleases you. Because her surge of neurochemicals and the bonding they cause also depends on her getting prolonged physical affection and sex from you. If the sex is one-sided, and she is doing most of the pleasing, without getting much pleasure herself, then this bonding is liable to be one-sided, with only you developing feelings for her but not the other way around.
I think it's possible for a guy to go after a massage lady he really likes and keep massaging her pussy and body without bringing her to orgasm too much for a long time every time. And if he does this regularly, more or less every day, then she is bound to develop some feelings for him and be willing to go with him for a permanent relationship, if that's what he wants. Of course, to maintain her feelings for him, he would need to keep giving her those lengthy pussy and body massage sessions every night, when she goes to bed with him. The trick is to delay the lady's orgasm, while keeping it very pleasant for her, because this is what leads to the prolonged surge of the bonding hormones in her body and keeps up her feelings for you.
You like to find new girls. I like variety. I think we are saying the same thing. You like to hang on to the best ones. After a break, I like to return to the very good ones. Sounds about the same to me.Well I am not feeling the need for a break in a real hurry. Yes some variety, but am keen to see the very most exiting ones again as soon as possible. If your break merely means alternating between best girls, then okay
Paul Kausch
09-07-13, 18:13
Well I am not feeling the need for a break in a real hurry. Yes some variety, but am keen to see the very most exiting ones again as soon as possible. If your break merely means alternating between best girls, then okayYeah, that's basically what I meant. On a mongering trip I might try to hook up with a favorite or two from the last time I passed through; I might see a couple of new ladies a couple of times each; and I might see a couple of ladies who I am not motivated to have repeat engagements. For me the perfect mix is a few favorites whom I see regularly and a few new ladies. Over time I may lose contact with a regular and one of the new acquaintance may become a regular. I think this is pretty typical for many of us. I do get bored having sex with only one woman month after month; and I've grown into like my freedom so much that I'm lousy in a long term relationship.
Yeah, that's basically what I meant. On a mongering trip I might try to hook up with a favorite or two from the last time I passed through; I might see a couple of new ladies a couple of times each; and I might see a couple of ladies who I am not motivated to have repeat engagements. For me the perfect mix is a few favorites whom I see regularly and a few new ladies. Over time I may lose contact with a regular and one of the new acquaintance may become a regular. I think this is pretty typical for many of us. I do get bored having sex with only one woman month after month; and I've grown into like my freedom so much that I'm lousy in a long term relationship.Of Bangkok, and Thailand in general for the visitor is the opportunity for a change. Unless I mis-read punters on here most have a punting life back home with their ownlocals (I certainly have the sort of description given above wrt to Thailand).
The fun of Bangkok and elsewhere is MPS where there is no wsws during a massage. FS is pretty well guaranteed in most MPs (and also in my favourite hairdressers off Skvt). Sex at Gullivers, the Beer Garden is a dead cert unlike my local pub and bar (and most nightclubs).
Thus I use the opportunity in Bangkok for change, for raunchy sex equally with slow GFE sex an, in a month I get a lot of variety. And bluntly, the next year I start over again.
Of Bangkok, and Thailand in general for the visitor is the opportunity for a change. Unless I mis-read punters on here most have a punting life back home with their ownlocals (I certainly have the sort of description given above wrt to Thailand).Not all. I have given up sex in my home country except for occasional with one girl when her BF is away. The value for money is too poor for hookers. Fortunately I am not there for long. Many of us have our main woman in Thailand and therefore playup time is limited.
Sent you Pm. Did you get it.
. FS is pretty well guaranteed in most MPs (and also in my favourite hairdressers off Skvt). Sex at Gullivers, the Beer Garden is a dead cert unlike my local pub and bar (and most nightclubs).Interesting discussion!
After missing my yearly mongering trip to SEA this year, I can't wait to go again in January.
I am a great fan of Tulip, Mango and Snow White and will add Cherry to that list.
Also I like to trawl semi-legit MPs for prospects, which, although low yield, has turned up some rare gems.
Also, and that is the immediate reason for this post, I want to try some barber shops.
The only one I know, where FS is available from some of the ladies, is Friends Massage & Barber on Suk Soi 19, but there must be others.
Can you guys please share some barber shops where FS is available, be it on the "special" menu?
Thanks.
DS
AssLover945
09-11-13, 19:54
Last 2 weeks roundup.
2 more new girls after Jenny. One named Game and the other's name I forgot. Game has a good set of tits, for tit lovers. The other girl tall and slim, not my type but I guess a lot of people dig for it.
Snowwhite 2 girls both did fantastic, Benz and Janny. Benz is quite a looker and what a dedicated service provider, due to her edging, I did 3 times in 1. 5 hours which has been sort of a record for me. Janny not a looker, but oozes sex and very playful.
BigCharles22
09-12-13, 01:26
Hi,
Just wondering with your knowledge if you know of any sauna clubs in BKK and if so, do thay do the FS etc?
Best Regards,
BigCharles22
Last 2 weeks roundup.
2 more new girls after Jenny. One named Game and the other's name I forgot. Game has a good set of tits, for tit lovers. The other girl tall and slim, not my type but I guess a lot of people dig for it.
Snowwhite 2 girls both did fantastic, Benz and Janny. Benz is quite a looker and what a dedicated service provider, due to her edging, I did 3 times in 1. 5 hours which has been sort of a record for me. Janny not a looker, but oozes sex and very playful.
BigCharles22
09-12-13, 05:59
Hi AssLover945,
Please advise the address for this Jenny if you would be kind enough to share the details as I will be in BKK early next month.
Regards,
Bigcharles22
After work was just loitering around in Suk area, when my foot became loose and headed into soi 24/1, passed by the shops with girls frantically calling in for business. Since I was not horny and I didn't find any of them convincing enough (or rathjer my little one didn't.) , until I reached the end of the soi, and where I was about to exit when the owner of cherry massage near the end of the soi, spotted me and asked me to join for a mug of beer right at the door where she was having her somtam dinner, having seen me come in many times, we have become acquaintances. As I sat down for beer with her and 2 other girls, apple and SU, We absolutely did not discuss sex, but being right in the honey pot, I could not escape notice Apple's popping boobs which were inviting and she was naughty naughty to start caressing my little one right there under the table. Su too was looking ravishing and was giving me the eye.
Not before long a guy came and all 3 ladies went inside, he seems to have chosen Apple and the other 2 girls continued their dinner. After 2 cans of chilled Chang, the owner asked if I wanted to see the new girls, and even before my nodding yes, she shouted out calling someone, while they were coming out, I told her I was tired out and wanted to rest and go back, to which she assured me that there was no pressure to take any girl, she just wanted to show me her new girls...
Will be in BKK next week. Going to try out Cherry massage for sure. My last massage 2 years ago was with Apple's sister Cherry at Mango. So I'm thinking of booking an appointment with Apple. Unless anyone recommends another provider.
Bartchamdo
09-12-13, 11:46
I tried to book an appointment with Apple at Cherry for the same reasons I wanted to book an appointment with Ice at Mango. I like ladies who know what they're doing in bed. Through the months I've tried 4 times and I've finally given up.
First try. Made the appointment, but then they emailed me back and cancelled it because she had a booking for a few days and wasn't available. No harm done.
Second try. Stopped by in person, but it was her day off (Wednesday)
Third try. They told me she was sick, but should be better in a week.
Fourth try. A week later I tried again, made the appointment, showed up, and was told she had an accident and wasn't there. The girl who told me this suggested I have a session with her instead. Not a chance. Bait and switch is a turn off.
Maybe it's bad luck or maybe they just don't want my business. Regardless, I've given up trying and am less likely to go back to Cherry Massage in the future. Lesson learned. Perhaps I don't really want to have a session with a superstar. Even if they are available they are likely to be tired. Another lesson learned. Maybe booking in advance isn't the way to go.
After finding out Apple was gone, I headed to Snow White. The lineup looked good, and I narrowed it down to two lovelies who were making nice eye contact with me and had nice figures. Then I noticed another good looking lady next to them who I chose. Mistake! I should have gone with one of my first choices.
The lady I chose is named Cash. She's cute, has a great body, wore very sexy lingerie and knew what she was doing. The booking was for 2 hours. Things didn't start off well when she refused DFK. She said she could do it, but only wanted a tiny peck on the lips. She wasn't into kissing with tongues. Fortunately she open to anything else I wanted, but not that. The sex was good, but she didn't have a great attitude. She told me from the beginning that she wouldn't be at Snow White next time I visited. She told me she had a lot of problems. The first hour of the session was fine, but things got worse after the first pop. She wanted me to cum again right away, which I couldn't physically do. She told me she hadn't eaten breakfast and was really hungry. She pretty much wanted me to cum again instantly, and end the session. It was annoying. The whole session lasted shy of 90 minutes, even though I paid for 2 hours. Would not repeat with her.
Cash.
Face 8/10.
Body 7/10.
Attitude 3/10.
Technique 8/10.
The good part, though, was that she was totally open to helping me find a better lady for next time. After the session she showed me the book of girls and suggested 7 different ladies to me. 4 of them aren't on the website. She told me that they were "cooler" than her, did DFK and pleased their customers. I will return.
Question for the group. When measuring the length of the session when does the clock start ticking? In my mind it starts after the girl brings her gear and is with you alone in the room and the clothes start coming off. I think the massage parlor might want to start the clock ticking from the second you walk into the business before you even choose a lady.
I tried to book an appointment with Apple at Cherry for the same reasons I wanted to book an appointment with Ice at Mango. I like ladies who know what they're doing in bed. Through the months I've tried 4 times and I've finally given up.
First try. Made the appointment, but then they emailed me back and cancelled it because she had a booking for a few days and wasn't available. No harm done.
Second try. Stopped by in person, but it was her day off (Wednesday)
Third try. They told me she was sick, but should be better in a week.
Fourth try. A week later I tried again, made the appointment, showed up, and was told she had an accident and wasn't there. The girl who told me this suggested I have a session with her instead. Not a chance. Bait and switch is a turn off.
Maybe it's bad luck or maybe they just don't want my business. Regardless, I've given up trying and am less likely to go back to Cherry Massage in the future. Lesson learned. Perhaps I don't really want to have a session with a superstar. Even if they are available they are likely to be tired. Another lesson learned. Maybe booking in advance isn't the way to go.
After finding out Apple was gone, I headed to Snow White. The lineup looked good, and I narrowed it down to two lovelies who were making nice eye contact with me and had nice figures. Then I noticed another good looking lady next to them who I chose...Apples' disappearing act is not surprising. She now works only part time (read as only for bookings from her regular clients). There is a change in ownership at Cherry, and Cherry (Apples sister) and the erstwhile owner is no longer involved. Hence, very likely that one will see less and less of Apple.
Traveler1234
09-12-13, 13:30
The whole session lasted shy of 90 minutes, even though I paid for 2 hours. Would not repeat with her.
Question for the group. When measuring the length of the session when does the clock start ticking?Most of the service oriented girls don't watch the clock. 90 minutes means you got short-changed. If and when it happens again, pay for 90 minutes and not the 2 hrs.
Bartchamdo
09-12-13, 14:33
Most of the service oriented girls don't watch the clock. 90 minutes means you got short-changed. If and when it happens again, pay for 90 minutes and not the 2 hrs.In the room Cash claimed it had been 1 hour 45 minutes, though my clock showed it was 1 hour 25 minutes. I considered refusing to pay for a full 2 hours. When we got downstairs Cash was very helpful showing me other girls I might like. One of those girls was standing behind the counter and we chatted a bit. I could have objected to the 2 hour price, but it was a small difference in money and I didn't want to get into an argument or look cheap in front of the girl I wanted to go with next time.
Bartchamdo
09-12-13, 17:31
Apples' disappearing act is not surprising. She now works only part time (read as only for bookings from her regular clients). There is a change in ownership at Cherry, and Cherry (Apples sister) and the erstwhile owner is no longer involved. Hence, very likely that one will see less and less of Apple.Thanks for the information! I wish Cherry Massage was more straightforward about these things.
Apples' disappearing act is not surprising. She now works only part time (read as only for bookings from her regular clients). There is a change in ownership at Cherry, and Cherry (Apples sister) and the erstwhile owner is no longer involved. Hence, very likely that one will see less and less of Apple.I emailed Cherry massage to book Apple next week. They responded to confirm the appointment. Then I received a second email about 20 minutes later asking to reschedule for a few days later or I choose another girl as Apple will be going to her hometown. Unfortunately the date they wanted to reschedule to is the same morning I fly out to the Philippines. Sad to say as I was really looking forward to seeing Apple.
I emailed Cherry massage to book Apple next week. They responded to confirm the appointment. Then I received a second email about 20 minutes later asking to reschedule for a few days later or I choose another girl as Apple will be going to her hometown. Unfortunately the date they wanted to reschedule to is the same morning I fly out to the Philippines. Sad to say as I was really looking forward to seeing Apple.You can't afford to focus on one girl unless she is your GF. Maintain a list of 10 favourites. Keep their private phone numbers in you longer phone. I rang one bar girl. She is not avail tonight but ok for Sunday. So check some one else on the list for today.
Perhaps you do something like this already. Always have several backup girls.
Thanks for the information! I wish Cherry Massage was more straightforward about these things.I do believe this is the one thing standing between them and ISO 9001:2008 certification.
After receiving and regular massage decided it was time for the special so headed to yorimuchi massage. He girl I was looking for was out for a week or 2 they said. Moved on to Cherry. Small group at 5:30 available. Ended up picking Ben. Very average looking but looked more filled out. Not pretty go and not fat, just average. Turn out the tits were quite nice. Everything was offered but the BJ was utstanding. Warm and wet and she sucked for real. NO just moving her head with lips wrapped around you little head. Took the full thing. After trying every position available ended up with cim. Can recommend her as a 6 out of 10 for most things, BJ would be a 9 or 10. Finished out the time with an actual good massage. She used the full time. Let me know at 10 minutes to go so then shower and head out. If this helps someone good. If not try anther one.
Cherry Massage is running some promotions right now: http://cherrymassagebkk.com/promotions/
Plus the bonus card is back: http://cherrymassagebkk.com/new-bonus-cards-arrived/
My regular girl was not there so took May-Lee. 5 ft nothing and just 20. Cute nose and biggish tits not sillies. Whitish skin comes from Chiangmai. She was a slightly timid but we had fun soaping each other in the shower. Nice body slide using the tits. BBBJ was a bit weak. DATY went well and sex was good. Had to start very slowly as she tight and needed stretching. No porn star but overall quite good. Not for power fuckers. 3 girls from this shop tried. No total duds so far and all 3 were cute.
She gets both Japanese and Farangs. Says Japanese always cum within 5 mins Farangs can be significantly longer.
Wolfie0066
09-15-13, 03:51
Are there any good massage parlors near the Chatuchak weekend market. I'm planning on being there all day on a Saturday, but I'd like to take a break from shopping at some point.
My usual girl at Amsterdam Yok (Chiang Rai) was away. So picked out a girl called Moey (rising tone) (sounds a bit like Marie without the are). Very strange name. Never met anyone named like this before. All natural gazelle with cute nose. No. S63 or something like that.
Bubbly playful girl. Probably will repeat, but next time might take her after no sex for a couple of days as it seemed she did not have the stamina for a long fuck. Said she doesn't kiss customers, but she did kiss me, however not much DFK. BBBJ no problem in the bath too.
The line-up seems at its best about 6PM or so.
Cherry Massage is running some promotions right now:
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/promotions/
Plus the bonus card is back:
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/new-bonus-cards-arrived/I wonder if the promotion is valid with a booked appointment? They scheduled me for a 2pm on Wednesday.
Had a very small window of opportunity on Saturday between 9pm and 11pm, and I was torn between Soi Cowboy and visiting a MP. With time so limited and no MP visited during this trip yet, I decided to give Yorimichi a try. I knew from the day before that Ms Fern Leaf would not be there, so I just had to try my luck. But I actually walked straight past Yorimichi and accidentally entered next-door Paradise instead. Had a couple of pleasant sessions there in the past but before I could even think about changing my plans, the mama-san told me "fully booked." Well, Saturday night.
So next door to Yorimichi instead where the selection was also quite small. Chose three girls for a mini line-up, Piano, Sunshine and another one. None of them quite my specs but what the heck, I needed to get laid. So chose Sunshine for the nicest smile and petite body despite a slight skin problem. She proved very chatty (good English) and quite naughty. 26 years. Straight to fooling around in the shower. Turned out she had quite nice boobs for a petite body so perfect for a bit of body slide, and then proceeded to sex, no thought wasted on massage. She was passionate, maybe a bit overacting. After a long cowgirl ride changed to missionary and second condom (first one came off) , then to doggy. Very nice ass and tight, so despite best efforts could not hold for much longer. When I pulled out to shoot my load I had to discover that the condom had broken. Damn, I hate that situation but at that moment, so dazzled that I still came. Couldn't have been broken for too long after changing to doggy but still not ideal.
Overall, a solid session but also a bit rushed because girl pretended to be so horny. I like them a bit more shy and slowly warming up to the situation. With a larger and better line-up would probably choose another girl next time, saw some interesting ones coming down the stairs with their customers. This place is definitely popular with Japanese, although I saw one more farang there when I left.
Plan a visit next week into BKK. Looking at Mango website, specifically Bee. Looks like the same girl from Aviva. If yes, definitely a good bet. If not, any comments on her.
Had a fun time with Pae on Saturday. Got there about 10 minutes after opening. Got the 4 girl lineup, all decent, but number 1 caught my eye. Went with the VIP service. Given what the ladies get for a 1 hour nuru stateside, the VIP is a great bargain. Pae has a decent body with a little meat on her, which I actually welcomed after a couple of thin ones earlier this trip. Body slides felt fantastic, moved to a decent BBJ. After a few minutes, had her get the condom and hop on for a little cowgirl. Snug with good muscle control, popped and into the shower. On to the bed for a cuddle and a little kissing. Was pretty depleted and at my age, one pop is about it. Surprisingly, Pae got things firmed up and had a second pop. Cleanup and goodbyes. All in all a pleasant nooner.
Are there any good massage parlors near the Chatuchak weekend market. I'm planning on being there all day on a Saturday, but I'd like to take a break from shopping at some point.LOL. This is amusing as I doubt any guy wants to be at the market all day. Dragged there by "She who must be obeyed" most likely. Massage places tend to be everywhere just a matter of how densely packed.
Its probably just under 4 km or so to Ratchadapisek Soi 17 called "Santi" (by motorcycle. Not by taxi) which contains Copa Cabana Soapy Massage parlour. So you could get a motorcycle there fairly quickly, but cross over to East side of Phahonyothin road first may be best, or cross to south side of Kampaeng Phet road first. Perhaps only 15 mins if traffic not too bad. Poseidon is also just round the corner in Ratchadapisek road. Another way to get there is take MRT from Chatuchak station to Sutthisan (4 stops) and motorcycle or walk from there. Might take about the same time depending on wait.
You probably need to be able to return in a hurry, so motorcycle return to Chatuchak maybe the best option. I often use motorcycle to go as much as 4 km to get to a difficult location soapy like Utopia, reasonably quickly.
Of course my suggestion is not so great if you want real massage. I am not an expert on real massage places. This is a mongering thread.
A simple Google Maps search for "Spa near Chatuchak" came up with this as nearest option (gives phone number too) :
RudeePathai.
202/5 PrachaUthit 54
Thung Khru, Jatuchak, Bangkok 10900, Thailand.
Which appears to be on Kampaengphet Soi 2 side of the market area itself.
Another option from simple Google Maps search:
Thai Massage Metro Mall No. 30 in Kampaeng Phet Underground (MRT) station in south end of the market.
No idea if they are naughty or not. There are a couple of other options < 1Km. away. e.g. D.D. Massage, Union Mall, Phahonyothin MRT Station.
So no matter where you are in Bangkok, Google Maps search can find nearby "Massage".
Just to update my friends about a 5 star soapy msg centre in BKK. Its called The Lords Palace.
You can't imagine how lux it is. Simply superb. But too. Expensive.
Try once. All the girls look like models.
I went to Mango Massage today. After 3 days of bad sex (from my side) in Pattaya, I needed a fresh start. No one's better suited for that than the great girls from Mango Massage.
None of my favorites (Cream, Ice, Mild, Bee) was available, so I took a deep look at the lineup and finally choosed a girl who I thought must be new, because I never noticed her before in the shop or on the website. But I was wrong, just because the pics on the website. One again. Are misleading.
I choosed Aom, but I never have recognized her from the pics. Yes, we all know the pics on the website are photoshopped, but they are photoshopped in a bad way.
Aom is 26 years old (but IMHO looks a little bit older) , from Si Sa Ket. 165 cm tall, great slim / skinny body, a 32 to 34 body size, a small A cup, long brown hair, that are much thinner than on the pics, , looks rather Chinese, decent to good english skills. The pics are heavily photoshopped and don't do Aom any justive. In reality she looks much better than on the pics, but this is just my very own opinion because I really like pooying lek lek.
Ok, that's the "hardware", now to the "software"
Aom is a great service provider, right in line with the best from Mango Massage. You name it, she does it and she does it with a broad smile on her face.
Started with a nice foreplay in the shower with DFK and BJ. Back to the bad, more DFKs, more sucking BJs, took care of her pussy with my skillful tongue. Than fucked her pussy in several positions, before taking care of her ass as well. She definately can take a good pounding. Finally she kneeld down before the bed, me standing in front of her and giving her a nice CIM. If I really want to nit pick something, than it's that Aom kept on sucking and didn't let me pull my cock out of her mouth to come on her face. But that's really nit picking.
All in all it was a great sesssion, we both had great fun, it was a great time.
As usual I left Mango Massage as a happy (and relieved) man. Aom is a great girl who made an old, fat and tired guy look like Rocco Siffredi. You can't ask for more for your money.
CorporateMalaya
09-19-13, 12:02
Just needed a quick poll on the best MP currently, time for the best lineup, which ones gives 2 pops without surcharge and what is the average charge for an over-nighter. Does A+ on the website mean they give Anal ? How honest are the pics on the site to the reality.
As usual I left Mango Massage as a happy (and relieved) man. Aom is a great girl who made an old, fat and tired guy look like Rocco Siffredi. You can't ask for more for your money.Aom is a very common female Thai name meaning to "encircle","embrace", or can mean to go a very round about way when referring to a taxi ride. Be careful how you pronounce though. Say it with a little emphatic emphasis and an open mouth.
If it is said too flat and with a fairly closed small mouth, it can sound like "Om" which means to "keep in the mouth" or suck on something, like a lolly or dick for example."Om" is the Thai word that can be used for giving a blow job. LOL.
"Khor Om Noi" means literally "please suck (me) a little bit".
Just needed a quick poll on the best MP currently, time for the best lineup, which ones gives 2 pops without surcharge and what is the average charge for an over-nighter. Does A+ on the website mean they give Anal ? How honest are the pics on the site to the reality.
Best depends a lot on what you want, and are you East Asian looking or not. Different guys are looking for very different things. Read some reports.
Some opinions:
6PM.
2 pops Annies, maybe Nataree, Catherine, I don't really know.
O/n 5000+ (e. G. Annies. Equivalent of 2 normal sessions) Most soapies have no overnight (officially).
A+ yes.
Honesty of pics varies a lot.
Since Zauber just touched the topic of photoshoped pics on MP websites, I just noticed today that Cherry's new site has added real photos of the girls along with the old photoshoped ones. I think it's safe to say that this is much appreciatet among fellow mongers.
Speaking of Cherry's, is it possible to take one of the girls for a full day, and if so, how much would such a thing cost me?
Bartchamdo
09-20-13, 13:42
Just needed a quick poll on the best MP currently, time for the best lineup, which ones gives 2 pops without surcharge and what is the average charge for an over-nighter. Does A+ on the website mean they give Anal ? How honest are the pics on the site to the reality.Interesting question and I'd love to hear everyone's experience.
These aren't soapy massage places, but.
* Cherry quoted me an overnight charge of 3000 baht for 8 hours (9pm to 5am) with a lady. Then after more discussion they mentioned the "overnight" hours were 9pm to 1am. (4 hours) Very confusing and inconsistent. This is partially why I don't like Cherry massage. Does overnight mean 4 hours or 8 hours? Let's get it straight. And if the session stops at 5am does that mean there will be more sex at 4am? Most of the time I'm not thinking of sex at 4 am. Do all the Cherry Massage girls like to travel home at 5 am? Sounds a bit inconvenient to me.
No idea about the all day charge.
* Snow White quoted me an overnight charge of 4000 baht. 1000 for the business and 3000 for the lady. I was told it would start at 9 pm or 10 pm and no ending time was mentioned. I was told the charge for an entire day is 6000 baht.
I'd love to hear other the quotes other mongers were given.
I'd love to hear other the quotes other mongers were given.In the past, I had outcall bookings with girls from Snow White, Cherry Massage and Mango Massage. No girl ever left earlier than 9am. Just keep in mind that they have to be back at the shop at 10am
Bartchamdo
09-20-13, 15:35
In the past, I had outcall bookings with girls from Snow White, Cherry Massage and Mango Massage. No girl ever left earlier than 9am. Just keep in mind that they have to be back at the shop at 10amWhat did outcall cost you?
Interesting question and I'd love to hear everyone's experience.
These aren't soapy massage places, but.
* Cherry quoted me an overnight charge of 3000 baht for 8 hours (9pm to 5am) with a lady. Then after more discussion they mentioned the "overnight" hours were 9pm to 1am. (4 hours) Very confusing and inconsistent. This is partially why I don't like Cherry massage. Does overnight mean 4 hours or 8 hours? Let's get it straight. And if the session stops at 5am does that mean there will be more sex at 4am? Most of the time I'm not thinking of sex at 4 am. Do all the Cherry Massage girls like to travel home at 5 am? Sounds a bit inconvenient to me.Hi Bartchamdo,
Thanks for the interesting post.
I know some of the Cherry Massage owners. Who was the lady, which told you overnight ends 1am already?
That's 100% wrong.
Overnight at Cherry Massage is from 9pm until 5am (minimum), can be also 9am, depends to the lady.
Cheers,
Jim
What did outcall cost you?3. 000 THB at Mango and Cherry, at Snow White I had a "personal agreement" with the girl because a 2 hours outcall prolonged itself a little bit, so what I paid there can't be used as a benchmark. I was also quoted 4. 000 THB at the shop, which I refused to pay, because I thought the going rate was 3. 000 THB
Can you recommend some Nuru massages? Are they worth to try or they are just more expensive than oil massages but provide more les the same service?
Paul Kausch
09-20-13, 22:59
So Cherry Massage has a new owner.
Interesting that the new website is "powered by WordPress." Oh well, there is more content and I think the real photos of the ladies are a big improvement. Is it just me or do they actually look much prettier than in their heavily Photoshopped photos.
I was sorry to read that Apple is not readily available to anyone other than her regular customers. Can anyone confirm this?
Have any of you guys who are regular customers noticed any changes, either for the better or the worse?
Curious minds inquire.
Wolvenvacht
09-21-13, 09:21
Can you recommend some Nuru massages? Are they worth to try or they are just more expensive than oil massages but provide more les the same service?Depends on how you define "more or less the same service".
The Nuru gel is waterbased so it rinces off more easily than oil.
It is also much more slippery than oil, so if you like the feeling of a naked girl sliding over your body, you will really like it.
But it is not a real "massage": because it is so slippery it does not allow any proper massage techniques. But then again, do we go to these MPs for the massage?
So Cherry Massage has a new owner.
Interesting that the new website is "powered by WordPress." Oh well, there is more content and I think the real photos of the ladies are a big improvement. Is it just me or do they actually look much prettier than in their heavily Photoshopped photos.
I was sorry to read that Apple is not readily available to anyone other than her regular customers. Can anyone confirm this?
Curious minds inquire.Indeed the new website is a revelation. And a welcome one. Fully agree that the many of the ladies look much better minus photoshopping. Apple is mostly off limits now, except for a privileged few.
Only hope other shops (read Mango, Snow White) will also follow Cherry in providing ladies images (before and after). Talking of Mango, had asked for any input on Bee?
Bartchamdo
09-21-13, 11:11
I know some of the Cherry Massage owners. Who was the lady, which told you overnight ends 1am already?
That's 100% wrong.
Overnight at Cherry Massage is from 9pm until 5am (minimum) , can be also 9am, depends to the lady.Hi Jim. I was told this via email. The emails were signed "Cherry Massage", so I can't tell you who wrote them. I assume it's the management or whoever does the booking.
This is what they sent me Saturday August 24 evening:
"Do you come to the shop or prefer 2h Outcall (2. 500THB) or overnight 9pm-5am (3. 000 THB)?"
Then I asked about doing a longer afternoon booking. They sent me this around midnight the same day:
"Yes, we could offer 4h for 4. 500 THB eg. From 2pm until 6pm, but I think it's a high price. (from 9pm-1am it would be just 3. 000 THB)"
A couple of days ago I was at Snow White. About 8 to 10 girls available at about noon time. Girls from very young and sexy to kind of mature. I choosed the one who smiled at me the most.
Apple was her name. 25 years old (but could be older) , from Khon Kaen. 155cm tall. 34 bodysize, nice B cup, long black hair, very broad nose. Turn down might be her public hair which is unshaved. Far from being a stunner, but good looking enough for me. English skills not great, but ok for nice chatting.
Her performance in the room was good. No foreplay in the shower, but nearly everything else was on the menu once we headed back to the back. DFKs, body kisses, decent BJ, great fucking, both her pussy and her ass, she didn't shy away from anything. Also she likes to get pleased herself. Great time for both of us until I finally filled the rubber.
Once again a very solid, a very good performer at Snow White. Apple is a very nice girl who is definately eager to please her customer. Definately worth for repeating.
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