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Ken_Apples
02-05-14, 07:34
I just stepped out and walked towards Nataree, which was my most likely destination anyway.
Many girls there, including quite a few lookers. The first one at the entrance was making smiles at me, but I kept on going. The Papasan had them all priced at 2600, whereas the previous time some of them were at 3200. Either the 3200 ones had not arrived yet,
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Anyway, good service? Definitely not! I didn't leave a tip. Possibly one of the least enthusiastic girls I've had in Bangkok. But, perversely, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed that her supple, lean body was all mine for an hour to do as I pleased, regardless of what she thought or wanted. Clearly I'd never have her in a million years if it wasn't through Nataree, and she was beautiful enough that her mere presence turned me on. Proof is, I had no trouble cumming, I didn't have to imagine I was with Charmane Star.
Would I repeat this girl? No way! Would I repeat Nataree? As often as I can. They have girls who are so hot that they just need to undress to turn me on. Would I take the Papasan's advice again? Definitely not, he's useless: I could tell she was cute but uninterested just by looking at her. I just need him to tell me the prices.For you who don't know the looks of Charmane Star, just google "NuruMassage Charmane Star".
Regards, Ken Apples.
Ps: I think there is nuru gel massage to be had in BKK and Pattaya, if you want to try a change from the traditional massage oil routine. Any forum member with field experience / knowledge are most welcome to share some info.
Wolvenvacht
02-05-14, 08:20
Then we fucked in a few different positions. I came when she was lying on her back at the edge of the bed and I was pounding her pussy while standing up with her legs pointing at 10 past 10. I'm sure one of you experts will tell me there's a name for that position too.Of course it has a name. "V for Victory", I like to call it.
http://www.sexinfo101.com/victory.shtml
Ralph Kramden
02-05-14, 14:12
I went to Huay Kwang for a soapy massage in the early afternoon. Stepping out of the MRT station I checked out Emmanuelle. There were only 3 girls, all uglies, and the Mamasan quoted crazy prices like THB 3700. I just stepped out and walked towards Nataree, which was my most likely destination anyway.
Many girls there, including quite a few lookers. The first one at the entrance was making smiles at me, but I kept on going. The Papasan had them all priced at 2600, whereas the previous time some of them were at 3200. Either the 3200 ones had not arrived yet, or business was slow and prices had adjusted accordingly. Anyway, he pointed out to one young, slim, pretty girl saying "Good service". She didn't seem too thrilled, but I figured I'd give it a shot just for curiosity's sake.
When we went up there, the bath took forever to fill up. What do you guys do during this time? I don't like to start the activities before cleaning up. I guess some people might do small talk, but her English was as nonexistent as my Thai. She said her name was Tha-knoow, or something like that. She looked 23 years old, very pale skin for a Thai. 1m60 without heels, I'd say 43 kilos, small A-cup breasts. Anyway, I said we should shower even as the bathtub was filling up.
Then she lay in bed next to me, like a girlfriend would. But she wouldn't let me kiss her on the mouth, so I asked her to give me a back massage instead. It was evident she'd never given one before. After a while we lay next to each other again, a bit of mutual fondling, then she gave me a CBJ which was not bad. Then we fucked in a few different positions. I came when she was lying on her back at the edge of the bed and I was pounding her pussy while standing up with her legs pointing at 10 past 10. I'm sure one of you experts will tell me there's a name for that position too.
Anyway, good service? Definitely not! I didn't leave a tip. Possibly one of the least enthusiastic girls I've had in Bangkok. But, perversely, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed that her supple, lean body was all mine for an hour to do as I pleased, regardless of what she thought or wanted. Clearly I'd never have her in a million years if it wasn't through Nataree, and she was beautiful enough that her mere presence turned me on. Proof is, I had no trouble cumming, I didn't have to imagine I was with Charmane Star.
Would I repeat this girl? No way! Would I repeat Nataree? As often as I can. They have girls who are so hot that they just need to undress to turn me on. Would I take the Papasan's advice again? Definitely not, he's useless: I could tell she was cute but uninterested just by looking at her. I just need him to tell me the prices.
Generally I prefer Oilies. They are cheaper, and you can find good-looking gals that are well trained and know how to please. But most of the times there is either zero or one hot chick in the line-up, so it's a bit hit-and-miss and I have to walk out. By constrast, Nataree, in my (relatively limited) experience, has always multiple cute chicks in the sidelines, so when you walk in, you know you're going to consume. For an extra 500 Baht it's not a bad deal.Keep trying because the law of averages will catch up to you. Out of five tries in December two were grand slam home runs, two were like yours and one was in between. Don't bother if they don't bother making eye contact with you and smile with a beckoning motion.
AssLover945
02-05-14, 18:25
i don't see any announcement of angie as a new girl at cherry on the web site. perhaps she decided that a pse shop was not for her? i am not sure. guess will have to phone to check. body was a flawless 10 with great natural big b cups (close to c) and lara croft type curves. so its not easy to forget her even though was only cbj. right now my thoughts are more occupied by super fucks: noi at dollhouse, faai at spanky, and goon (atdrbj). i don't actually like these 2 bars i mentioned, but sometimes, the girl takes priority over how boring the bar is. otherwise for oily massage lookers, soi 24/1 and boss massage in particular has the cutest line-up for me. everywhere is a bit quiet but superstars with many regulars still can be quite busy.syzygies i did her today and whole heartedly agree she a damn good girl and what nice curves man! my vote : 10 out of 10 for that bomb of a body. my junior is getting up again just thinking of her. even though i just did her some 4 hours back.
i went back for yaya, (who i think is one fucking hot and fun loving girl) , but unfortunately she was at work, i made a mental note to book her before hand next time, and was about to leave when a gorgeous bundle entered the shop. at first it seemed like someone from the hi fashion street had walked in into the massage shop by chance. i made a you-turn for the desk and asked the receptionist who she was, and surprise surprise it was angie! it reminded me of your report and i could immediately connect. i booked her immediately and she took me to the room with her civilian clothes on her. in the room, as she peeled off her dress items one by one, my jaw dropped and almost touched the floor, she must have noticed my intense gaze and must have seen my junior almost tearing through my pants to be freed, because she was feeling shy or was it her inexperience?
what followed is best left to your imagination.
while resting and waiting for the 2nd session, i did small talk with her and found her very intelligent and pleasant to converse with, she told me she did not start working regularly yet, but would like to start. she was honest in saying that she was not prepared to take on more than 2 or 3 customers at the most per day. she has not yet made up her mind to be regular, but the cherry owner / management have allowed her to test it out before she makes up her mind finally.
honestly syzygies a big thank you for the heads up on this discovery! still grinning like as ass.)
syzygies i did her today and whole heartedly agree she a damn good girl and what nice curves man! my vote : 10 out of 10 for that bomb of a body. my junior is getting up again just thinking of her. even though i just did her some 4 hours back.
i went back for yaya, (who i think is one fucking hot and fun loving girl) , but unfortunately she was at work, i made a mental note to book her before hand next time, and was about to leave when a gorgeous bundle entered the shop. at first it seemed like someone from the hi fashion street had walked in into the massage shop by chance. i made a you-turn for the desk and asked the receptionist who she was, and surprise surprise it was angie! it reminded me of your report and i could immediately connect. i booked her immediately and she took me to the room with her civilian clothes on her. in the room, as she peeled off her dress items one by one, my jaw dropped and almost touched the floor, she must have noticed my intense gaze and must have seen my junior almost tearing through my pants to be freed, because she was feeling shy or was it her inexperience?
what followed is best left to your imagination.
while resting and waiting for the 2nd session, i did small talk with her and found her very intelligent and pleasant to converse with, she told me she did not start working regularly yet, but would like to start. she was honest in saying that she was not prepared to take on more than 2 or 3 customers at the most per day. she has not yet made up her mind to be regular, but the cherry owner / management have allowed her to test it out before she makes up her mind finally.
honestly syzygies a big thank you for the heads up on this discovery! still grinning like as ass.) how was the performance?
Western787
02-06-14, 17:18
I haven't been that often to Nataree as they usually don't match my service expectations. The last time I went I was the only Farang customer. .You can go into Alaina, The Lord, Colonize 4, Emanuelle, La Belle, Poseiden, and (often) Nataree any random night, and you will generally not see a Farang. That's true most places. Its genereally Japanese and Thais, and the business in general is way off due to the political situation and has been for at least 2 months, and worse since the "Shutdown" began a month back. Nataree has one advantage in that with all the sideliners you can get a feedback as to what the probable vibe will be with the girl before you pick her. You can't do that with Poseiden or Emanuelle (both behind glass on the low cost girls in Emanuelle) and The Lord IMHO as a business (while the girls are out in the open) in general doesn't seem to like Farangs.
In this buyers' market more stunners typically available in for example Bacarra, (Soi Cowboy) and Rainbow 4, Rainbow 1, and sometimes Mandarin 2nd and 3rd level, Rainbow 3, and on good nights Club Asia and even the (non go go) Soi 4 clubs than in the the soapies these days, and you can get some feedbackfrom the stage or after buying drinks before selecting them.
Lets say a girl is at least a low end stunner, they can sit in that fishbowl all night, and sometimes only 10 to 20 customers are going to show up all night to check her out versus a go go club where even on an off night 100's of customers (500 plus in R4 i'd guess) would be seeing her and visually checking her out. Much easier to build a business including OTC for her in go go's than soapies these days. Note the go go prices generally all run between 2k to 3k vs in the (high end) soapies the stunners often can be priced around 7k.
Western787
02-06-14, 17:33
How was the performance?You pose a legitimate question.
However, taking a step back, if a girl has a drop dead body and face, combined with a good attitude, tries hard and perhaps even is a bit shy, I'd say to hell with performance. This is a real buyer's market around town these days. While difficult for the people of Bangkok and I wish them well as many are very upset with the existing government, simply stated the negative impact on tourism is keeping apartment prices low and the supply of hot ass high.
Paul Kausch
02-06-14, 17:34
Lets say a girl is at least a low end stunner, they can sit in that fishbowl all night, and sometimes only 10 to 20 customers are going to show up all night to check her outA recent documentary about the sex industry in Thailand, Bangladesh and Mexico opened with a Thai-centric soapy in Bangkok. At one point the viewer was able to eaves drop on two young ladies on their way to work. One said to the other, "I hope I get a customer tonight."
You pose a legitimate question.
However, taking a step back, if a girl has a drop dead body and face, combined with a good attitude, tries hard and perhaps even is a bit shy, I'd say to hell with performance. This is a real buyer's market around town these days. While difficult for the people of Bangkok and I wish them well as many are very upset with the existing government, simply stated the negative impact on tourism is keeping apartment prices low and the supply of hot ass high.Sorry man, for me no matter how "hot" the gal is, if she is not a performer, I am not interested.
Western787
02-06-14, 19:40
A recent documentary about the sex industry in Thailand, Bangladesh and Mexico opened with a Thai-centric soapy in Bangkok. At one point the viewer was able to eaves drop on two young ladies on their way to work. One said to the other, "I hope I get a customer tonight."That came out in 2011 and was Hi Class (massage) to the right of Emanuelle, and very likely when business was better than now, and the two girls were IMHO were average by soapy standards, with better selection at Nana parking lot each night at 11 pm at only 1500 baht. I wouldn't be surprised if average girls go multiple nights without customers. At least at Nana they could have 1000's of potential customers looking at them each night. And Nana parking lot even has the occasional stunners also.
Western787
02-06-14, 19:54
Sorry man, for me no matter how "hot" the gal is, if she is not a performer, I am not interested.Believe me I understand what you mean. And no harm in looking for it.
In terms of required hoops to jump through though,"Aebolit" (who posted last year) seems to have the highest P4P demands of anyone I've ever seen in this forum, basically drop dead gorgeous 18 to 23 year old long legged pretty model 9 and 10 level types, with great attitudes and peformance.
Paul Kausch
02-06-14, 19:56
That came out in 2011 and was Hi Class (massage) to the right of Emanuelle, and very likely when business was better than now, and the two girls were IMHO were average by soapy standards, with better selection at Nana parking lot each night at 11 pm at only 1500 baht. I wouldn't be surprised if average girls go multiple nights without customers. At least at Nana they could have 1000's of potential customers looking at them each night. And Nana parking lot even has the occasional stunners also.I didn't realize it has been that long since it was released. Time has a sneaky way of zipping past me. I was pulling my hair trying to remember the name of the soapy they worked in. Do you recall the name of the documentary? I agree with your assessment of the ladies. They were average fishbowl girls.
Western787
02-06-14, 20:32
I didn't realize it has been that long since it was released. Time has a sneaky way of zipping past me. I was pulling my hair trying to remember the name of the soapy they worked in. Do you recall the name of the documentary? I agree with your assessment of the ladies. They were average fishbowl girls.Yes, I know the name but we cannot use the (nasty)"W" word on this site, so I will call it "Working Girls Glory"
Think of "Bore's Glory"
Member #4263
02-06-14, 21:20
I saw the Thai part of the documentary on YouTube. Didn't know it was Hi-Class. I'm wondering about that massage place now.
Paul Kausch
02-06-14, 22:18
Yes, I know the name but we cannot use the (nasty)"W" word on this site, so I will call it "Working Girls Glory"
Think of "Bore's Glory"Yes! That's it. Thanks.
Ralph Kramden
02-07-14, 16:45
I saw the Thai part of the documentary on YouTube. Didn't know it was Hi-Class. I'm wondering about that massage place now.Hi-Class was shut down for a year or more but has reopened. I visited in December. The selection was spotty and the prices are higher than before. But still it takes less than 5 minutes to see what is on offer while one tours the good selection of neighborhood soapies. You never know what might be available at any given time.
Western787
02-07-14, 17:01
I saw the Thai part of the documentary on YouTube. Didn't know it was Hi-Class. I'm wondering about that massage place now.Its still open as far as I know and is one of the few that seems to always have a few touts hanging outside trying to get you to go in.
With the political mess, the question is how long can some of these soapies continue to stay in business. Note the convention business in Bangkok (deemed just too risky by corporate risk depts) has been decimated, probably down 70%, and these soapies have always have been dependent on large groups being bused in, some apparently connected to the convention business. Yes, some are just travel groups, but I'm think all tour business is off.
Not sure how much business the soapies have lost in recent months, but I heard Sept to Nov was strong, but at present how long will it be before they can't pay even their basic utility bills etc? If this extends into the summer, I would think some could close up.
Paul Kausch
02-07-14, 17:53
Yes, I know the name but we cannot use the (nasty)"W" word on this site, so I will call it "Working Girls Glory"
Think of "Bore's Glory"
I saw the Thai part of the documentary on YouTube. Didn't know it was Hi-Class. I'm wondering about that massage place now.Yes, the entire 2 hour documentary is on YouTube. Just do a search by the title. The first third of it is set in Bangkok. I found it very interesting and recommend it to anyone with an interest in Bangkok's sex industry.
AssLover945
02-07-14, 17:59
How was the performance?On a scale of 1 to 10 (with one being lowest) I would place Angie at 7.
I gave very good head but it was covered. The backside was not available, but I don't care much. The attitude was great and at point of time did she say No to this or that. I was literally molesting her to the point of being too selfish, yet It was all taken with a smile.
On a scale of 1 to 10 (with one being lowest) I would place Angie at 7.
I gave very good head but it was covered. The backside was not available, but I don't care much. The attitude was great and at point of time did she say No to this or that. I was literally molesting her to the point of being too selfish, yet It was all taken with a smile.Sounds like a winner, once she gets over the CBJ thing.
AssLover945
02-09-14, 15:40
I went to mango the other day, for my usual girl Prae. But the receptionist was really pushing hard for "two-lady na", I do partake the two-lady thing once in a while, but since I am a local here, I am in tearing hurry to get all the honeys in the shortest possible time (which is what the toruists would usually do). Aldo at Mango I found a lot doors wide open (meaning no customer busy inside).
This isn't just the care with Mango, but Tulip and Snow and EZ too. The EZ mamasan / katoey pushed me for "come everyday na" and being extra sweet, which I had never seen before. Land of smiles in my opinion has never been a better place since my mongering days began almost a decade back!
I swear I have never seen these places so so eager for customers. So guys It is our market, so the prices are not going to come down to the levels of say Cambodia or Vietnam, but still we are bound to get good service.
Just MHO though, YMMV.
Snow White 2 has opened in Sukh. Soi 24/1.
Went in to see the lineup, and to see if there was any of the "missing talents". Lineup was quite good but I didn't go for any of them.
I had Nancy on my mind (Cherry) but was told that she no longer works at Cherry. So I choose Tongmo instead. Not very tall and she is a little bit curved (not petite). She is a sweet and chatting girl with a very limited english. Very Cute, and good service. I am not into +A so I dint ask.
WIR? Maybe I would.
Wider smiles is one thing.
Lower prices quite another.
I have not noticed lower prices anywhere yet. Hotels / mps / FLs all are still asking for same $.
I went to mango the other day, for my usual girl Prae. But the receptionist was really pushing hard for "two-lady na", I do partake the two-lady thing once in a while, but since I am a local here, I am in tearing hurry to get all the honeys in the shortest possible time (which is what the toruists would usually do). Aldo at Mango I found a lot doors wide open (meaning no customer busy inside).
This isn't just the care with Mango, but Tulip and Snow and EZ too. The EZ mamasan / katoey pushed me for "come everyday na" and being extra sweet, which I had never seen before. Land of smiles in my opinion has never been a better place since my mongering days began almost a decade back!
I swear I have never seen these places so so eager for customers. So guys It is our market, so the prices are not going to come down to the levels of say Cambodia or Vietnam, but still we are bound to get good service.
Just MHO though, YMMV.
Tried Snow White 2 Saturday evening. Rooms are normal, nothing special. I quickly seen the boss and she mentioned some VIP room coming, I insisted on Jacuzzi and Pammy confirmed later that Jacuzzi should be on the way for 2 VIP rooms. If they add Wifi, I'll maybe move for a monthly rent.
Anyway, I did not really check out the line up as Pammy jumped on me. All SW standard with a smile. They have split the girls between the 2 shops and they move to one or the other according to management schedule. I've seen Nestle was here but she was in original shop last Thursday. If you want a girl, really need to call and choose the shop, they can move according to your favorite. As I'm a fan of super long BBBJ on sofa, I'll stick to first shop until they open the new VIP rooms.
About girls, Yuki is my favorite of the moment, she is in holidays but back soon. Pammy told me that a bunch of new girls arrived, I have to check.
Following comments bellow, yes the business is very quiet. I went to my favorite massage place yesterday ev on Soi 22, I was the first customer of the day. They even run after girls customers now! Soi 22 is very down as Asok is very close.
Meanwhile, I've been to Black Pagoda in Patpong Friday night, my favorit spot for my customer entertainment, it was busy and the whole area looks going ok.
I swear I have never seen these places so so eager for customers. So guys It is our market, so the prices are not going to come down to the levels of say Cambodia or Vietnam, but still we are bound to get good service.I don't think the ladies and the Massage Parlors are going to lower their prices, because they have bills to pay, and many of them probably can't afford to work for less money. If they can't have enough work and business, then it makes sense for them to quit and find something else to do for money.
But this slow-down is probably temporary, and they'll probably stick around, until customers come back. If they quit, then getting back into the business would be hard for them, and for this reason they'll probably stay around for while at least.
I think the biggest advantage for guys in Bangkok now is that even the best-looking ladies at massage parlors aren't busy and are available. Now is the time for guys to search out the best looking chicks and nail them with their dicks. Because once the massage business gets better, then the best-looking ladies will be busy again. They'll be harder to find and even harder to take for a ride.
Traveler1234
02-12-14, 20:57
Tried Snow White 2 Saturday evening.
Meanwhile, I've been to Black Pagoda in Patpong Friday night, my favorit spot for my customer entertainment, it was busy and the whole area looks going ok.Help refresh an old man's memory, where is SW 2, near the original?
Help refresh an old man's memory, where is SW 2, near the original?Yes, it's located at Soi 24/1
Member #4263
02-13-14, 00:49
Hey,
I noticed I can't find a lot of recent info on Darling Massage. Is this place still active?
Tried Snow White 2 Saturday evening. Rooms are normal, nothing special. I quickly seen the boss and she mentioned some VIP room coming, I insisted on Jacuzzi and Pammy confirmed later that Jacuzzi should be on the way for 2 VIP rooms. If they add Wifi, I'll maybe move for a monthly rent.
Anyway, I did not really check out the line up as Pammy jumped on me. All SW standard with a smile. They have split the girls between the 2 shops and they move to one or the other according to management schedule. I've seen Nestle was here but she was in original shop last Thursday. If you want a girl, really need to call and choose the shop, they can move according to your favorite. As I'm a fan of super long BBBJ on sofa, I'll stick to first shop until they open the new VIP rooms.Is there any website for SW 2?
Paul Kausch
02-13-14, 19:19
Is there any website for SW 2?I searched for a website and came up empty. It's on Soi 24/1 close to the original SW.
While resting and waiting for the 2nd session, I did small talk with her and found her very intelligent and pleasant to converse with, She told me she did not start working regularly yet, but would like to start. She was honest in saying that she was not prepared to take on more than 2 or 3 customers at the most per day. She has not yet made up her mind to be regular, but the cherry owner / management have allowed her to test it out before she makes up her mind finally.Yes I agree. She has the class and intelligence (but no porn-star) , that make her seem out of place in a normally PSE shop. When I say the girl has a 10 body, I don't tell fibs, as you saw. Lets hope we can see her become a little less classy and more wayward.
She had a regular job in a fashion / photo agency before, but I think she said the business went bad due to owner's wife being a Psycho case. Seems she was introduced to Cherry by Film (her friend).
I think it can be great to collect a variety of girls, some wayward Pornstars, some with pussy squeeze box, some pretty faces, and some with amazing bodies. Its very unlikely you can have absolutely everything in a single girl.
AssLover945
02-14-14, 08:37
Hey,
I noticed I can't find a lot of recent info on Darling Massage. Is this place still active?Since we don't have any reports about darling, your help would be appreciated, we encourage you to make a trip and share a field report.
AssLover945
02-14-14, 08:41
Is there any website for SW 2?No new website for SW2. All girls are listed in the old website FYI.
BTW SW2 is in the same location as EZ2, seems EZ2 has closed, and the girls all moved to "All stars Bangkok" which is owned by the same people who own ez1 in soi24 and "all stars" in 24/1 and "my massage girl" in 24/1
AssLover945
02-14-14, 08:42
Help refresh an old man's memory, where is SW 2, near the original?SW2 is in the same location as EZ2, seems EZ2 has closed, and the girls all moved to "All stars Bangkok" which is owned by the same people who own ez1 in soi24 and "all stars" in 24/1 and "my massage girl" in 24/1
AssLover945
02-14-14, 08:44
I don't think the ladies and the Massage Parlors are going to lower their prices, because they have bills to pay, and many of them probably can't afford to work for less money. If they can't have enough work and business, then it makes sense for them to quit and find something else to do for money.
But this slow-down is probably temporary, and they'll probably stick around, until customers come back. If they quit, then getting back into the business would be hard for them, and for this reason they'll probably stay around for while at least.
I think the biggest advantage for guys in Bangkok now is that even the best-looking ladies at massage parlors aren't busy and are available. Now is the time for guys to search out the best looking chicks and nail them with their dicks. Because once the massage business gets better, then the best-looking ladies will be busy again. They'll be harder to find and even harder to take for a ride.Dan I haven't seen the prices move up or down by much in the last decade more or less. If you looking for pocket friendly pussy, I suggest you hit Cambodia, Vietnam, dunno about Laos and Myanmar though.
Help refresh an old man's memory, where is SW 2, near the original?It's the first shop you see when entering 24/1 from Suk, on the RHS immediately before Allstars. You would have to be the fourth member of the optically challenged rodent family to miss it.
Okay session with Bee. A wee bit pum pui and chest a bit deflated. Nice face and good fun. CBJ though. Wouldn't repeat. CBJ not for me.
I try to get one session with Wine whenever I visit Bangkok. Got her today as her first customer which is good because she can get lazy after a couple of customers. She's been at Angels a few years now and knows her business; she always manages to get me off quick regardless of what mood she's in. I think today was a record, in and out of the shop within 40 minutes. YMMV with Wine but she will continue to be on my "to do" list.
Can anyone recommend an A+ girl with a nice body? For me that means young, slim and no signs of childbirth. Not too worried about the face as long as she doesn't look like a ladyboy. Some of the Mango girls in the lingerie party photos look doable, like the one in the first photo dressed in pink (is that Cream?). Difficult to tell what their bodies are like though. Not too worried about PSE or GFE - just want to bang her arse and go.
Can anyone recommend an A+ girl with a nice body? For me that means young, slim and no signs of childbirth. Not too worried about the face as long as she doesn't look like a ladyboy. Some of the Mango girls in the lingerie party photos look doable, like the one in the first photo dressed in pink (is that Cream?). Difficult to tell what their bodies are like though. Not too worried about PSE or GFE - just want to bang her arse and go.I'm sorry I can't help except to identify the girl in the first photo as Amy. She fit your description but is long gone from Mango (and I don't know if she is still working anywhere).
Excellent "straight" Thai massage at Cefle this evening. 250BHT per hour. Highly recommend it. I just hope it wasn't a mistake doing it the night before an 11 hour flight tomorrow morning, I think I may be a wee bit stiff (no pun intended).
Traveler1234
02-14-14, 22:30
Excellent "straight" Thai massage at Cefle this evening. 250BHT per hour. Highly recommend it. I just hope it wasn't a mistake doing it the night before an 11 hour flight tomorrow morning, I think I may be a wee bit stiff (no pun intended).Damn, we missed each other again! Landing Tuesday mid-day and single for two nights before mrs. Arrives
Damn, we missed each other again! Landing Tuesday mid-day and single for two nights before mrs. ArrivesAh, too bad. Maybe Giotto will be back from his country estate by Tuesday. Enjoy your trip (before the missus arrives :p).
I'm sorry I can't help except to identify the girl in the first photo as Amy. She fit your description but is long gone from Mango (and I don't know if she is still working anywhere).Thanks. I bet she wasn't an A+ girl anyway. Is Cream the one in the middle photo with the black dress with white hearts? The real photos and photoshopped ones are so different it's difficult to identify the girls. Her face is nice enough but has she got a body to match?
Thanks. I bet she wasn't an A+ girl anyway. Is Cream the one in the middle photo with the black dress with white hearts? The real photos and photoshopped ones are so different it's difficult to identify the girls. Her face is nice enough but has she got a body to match?Well, as I said Amy fit your description so she was an A+ girl. But she appears to be long gone so no matter. And yes, Mango does have a severe photoshopping problem thereby making their photos all but worthless in terms of pre-selecting a girl. Contrast this with Cherry Massage's real photos (which rather strangely are presented alongside photoshopped photos, with the difference being clear).
Thanks. I bet she wasn't an A+ girl anyway. Is Cream the one in the middle photo with the black dress with white hearts? The real photos and photoshopped ones are so different it's difficult to identify the girls. Her face is nice enough but has she got a body to match?Oh Ammy was an A+ gal, and one of the best performers in Mango.
Bartchamdo
02-15-14, 12:43
Bamboo's website has been updated with pictures. When they opened they only had pics of 3 of their ladies. Now they have pictures of 11. Vodka seems to be gone, but when you visit Toey's page you see Vodka's name. I don't know if it's the same lady. Likewise, click on Pink and you see a page for Soda. Another new lady is Yaya. Is she another former Cherry lady who moved on?
http://www.bamboomassagebkk.com/14443913/see-the-bamboo-ladies
Ralph Kramden
02-15-14, 14:49
Bamboo's website has been updated with pictures. When they opened they only had pics of 3 of their ladies. Now they have pictures of 11. Vodka seems to be gone, but when you visit Toey's page you see Vodka's name. I don't know if it's the same lady. Likewise, click on Pink and you see a page for Soda. Another new lady is Yaya. Is she another former Cherry lady who moved on?
http://www.bamboomassagebkk.com/14443913/see-the-bamboo-ladiesPink has a couple of handfuls.
Paul Kausch
02-15-14, 15:44
Bamboo's website has been updated with pictures.Toey is the lady who went by Vodka at Cherry Massage. She has been working at Bamboo since the first of the year. Prior to the new pictures, some of her old pictures from the Cherry Massage website were on her page in the Bamboo website, as was the case with Ploy. Ploy also has new pictures.
Toey is the lady who went by Vodka at Cherry Massage. She has been working at Bamboo since the first of the year. Prior to the new pictures, some of her old pictures from the Cherry Massage website were on her page in the Bamboo website, as was the case with Ploy. Ploy also has new pictures.Toey (Vodka) pics look a little less shopped than some of the others, however they certainly clean up marks and blemishes. In other girls, the eyes are blown up to look like dolls.
I don't go for Ploy's picture looks, even though I may not have met her, due to the apparently strange nose job. But I am weird. Many guys don't mind the nose jobs, no matter how strange they look to me. I don't even like silly cones, unless very subtle. Sometimes we just have to put up with these things (sigh).
Hey,
I noticed I can't find a lot of recent info on Darling Massage. Is this place still active?Yes there was one or two relatively recent reports.
Paul Kausch
02-15-14, 18:27
Toey (Vodka) pics look a little less shopped than some of the others.
I don't go for Ploy's picture looks, even though I may not have met her, due to the apparently strange nose job.Just before they left Cherry there were a number of un-photoshopped photos of Vodka and Ploy on the website. I think Vodka looked better in those pictures than in the new ones on the Bamboo website. Ploy got a nose job between working at Cherry and Bamboo. I also think she looked better before the facial editing.
Could you kindly let us know if Amsterdam's foreigner subcharge is 500 baht for all categories or just for sideliners?
I checked the Thai massage models website and it seems they only have sideliners and models, no fishbowl is this correct?
Prices start for the 'S' category at 2, 600 + 500 foreigner surcharge.Farang / foreigner surcharge is always "all categories".
Fish bowl? Well Amsterdam and some other places do not have the girls behind glass enclosure like an aquarium. Really the glass doesn't make much difference, however at Amsterdam the girls can see you very clearly while you are looking at them. Its not dark. It is an expensive up market place. Many of the girls are frankly not worth it, but I still go there to try to find something special.
Bamboo's website has been updated with pictures. When they opened they only had pics of 3 of their ladies. Now they have pictures of 11. Vodka seems to be gone, but when you visit Toey's page you see Vodka's name. I don't know if it's the same lady. Likewise, click on Pink and you see a page for Soda. Another new lady is Yaya. Is she another former Cherry lady who moved on?
http://www.bamboomassagebkk.com/14443913/see-the-bamboo-ladiesWow, those are some really awful pics. Whoever manipulated the images needs to have an eye exam or a refresher course in Photoshop. Still say kudos to Cherry for real pics.
Fast Eddie 48
02-16-14, 14:14
On a scale of 1 to 10 (with one being lowest) I would place Angie at 7.
I gave very good head but it was covered. The backside was not available, but I don't care much. The attitude was great and at point of time did she say No to this or that. I was literally molesting her to the point of being too selfish, yet It was all taken with a smile.To Asslover
I have a session with Angie last month at Cherry she is a eye candy with a very hot body, the best looking girl I have at Bangkok massage ever like Asslover said don't expect a porn star experience only offer CBJ cannot touch her pussy or her small tittie but she give an passion french kiss and she speak perfect english I ask if she have a farang boyfriend she told me no and she handle herself very well she told me she only have a high school education.
Fast Eddie 48
AssLover945
02-16-14, 14:17
Snow White 2 has opened in Sukh. Soi 24/1.
Went in to see the lineup, and to see if there was any of the "missing talents". Lineup was quite good but I didn't go for any of them.
I had Nancy on my mind (Cherry) but was told that she no longer works at Cherry. So I choose Tongmo instead. Not very tall and she is a little bit curved (not petite). She is a sweet and chatting girl with a very limited english. Very Cute, and good service. I am not into +A so I dint ask.
WIR? Maybe I would.Nancy is very much working there, I saw her today, I asked the receptionist if she had stopped working, but she was there, though I would book her soon, today I was there for my current fav yaya in cherry.
:P
AssLover945
02-16-14, 14:22
To Asslover
I have a session with Angie last month at Cherry she is a eye candy with a very hot body, the best looking girl I have at Bangkok massage ever like Asslover said don't expect a porn star experience only offer CBJ cannot touch her pussy or her small tittie but she give an passion french kiss and she speak perfect english I ask if she have a farang boyfriend she told me no and she handle herself very well she told me she only have a high school education.
Fast Eddie 48Fast Eddie, good for you, that you got to enjoy her fruits. Today I had gone there with Angie in mind, but as I had not booked her in advance, I was out of luck. Receptionist said she will come today around 4, but I was in no way waiting for 3 hours, particularly so when yaya was right there with her slithe gazelle like body. Yaya has absolutely no fat it seems, no stretch marks, no tattoos, no piercings and what naughty eyes.
Anyway talking of Angie, yes I would give her body 9 out of 10, some would even give a 10 out of 10, YMMV.
Phil Fogg88
02-16-14, 15:07
To Asslover
I have a session with Angie last month at Cherry she is a eye candy with a very hot body, the best looking girl I have at Bangkok massage ever like Asslover said don't expect a porn star experience only offer CBJ cannot touch her pussy or her small tittie but she give an passion french kiss and she speak perfect english I ask if she have a farang boyfriend she told me no and she handle herself very well she told me she only have a high school education.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks for the warning. I'm had to shake my head and tried to figure out if it were some kind of a joke as I read it, but yes, thanks for the warning.
Fast Eddie 48
02-16-14, 15:57
Fast Eddie, good for you, that you got to enjoy her fruits. Today I had gone there with Angie in mind, but as I had not booked her in advance, I was out of luck. Receptionist said she will come today around 4, but I was in no way waiting for 3 hours, particularly so when yaya was right there with her slithe gazelle like body. Yaya has absolutely no fat it seems, no stretch marks, no tattoos, no piercings and what naughty eyes.
Anyway talking of Angie, yes I would give her body 9 out of 10, some would even give a 10 out of 10, YMMV.To Asslover945.
I think 10 out of 10 is overrated I got a girl at Angel a few week ago have a nicer body I rate her 8 out of 10 maybe Angie is 7 out of 10 I like tall spinner with long leg and small ass and Angie have a little strech make on her butt, but one a beautiful classy girl I don't think she will be in this business for very long let me know if you decide to go BBBJ.
Fast Eddie 48
AssLover945
02-16-14, 17:31
To Asslover945.
I think 10 out of 10 is overrated I got a girl at Angel a few week ago have a nicer body I rate her 8 out of 10 maybe Angie is 7 out of 10 I like tall spinner with long leg and small ass and Angie have a little strech make on her butt, but one a beautiful classy girl I don't think she will be in this business for very long let me know if you decide to go BBBJ.
Fast Eddie 48I don't dispute your rating for angie, and as I said YMMV.
For those of you who need some eyecandy, today all girls at cherry were dressed like students. See attached pic.
Damn!
Traveler1234
02-17-14, 00:56
No new website for SW2. All girls are listed in the old website FYI.That website and all the pictures look like it did two years ago. Unless I found the wrong site?
http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/
Francesco24
02-17-14, 04:10
Fast Eddie, good for you, that you got to enjoy her fruits. Today I had gone there with Angie in mind, but as I had not booked her in advance, I was out of luck. Receptionist said she will come today around 4, but I was in no way waiting for 3 hours, particularly so when yaya was right there with her slithe gazelle like body. Yaya has absolutely no fat it seems, no stretch marks, no tattoos, no piercings and what naughty eyes.
Anyway talking of Angie, yes I would give her body 9 out of 10, some would even give a 10 out of 10, YMMV.I have been exchanging mails with Cherry shop for the past week and I am told every time that Angie is not there at the moment and they still have no idea if she will come back (last email they even said maybe she got a new boyfriend.)
Guess I'll try again to see if what they told you yesterday is true and she really come back!
Eric Swiss
02-17-14, 07:57
I went to Bamboo Massage shortly before lunchtime. Only 3 ladies there. I picked one whose name was given to me as "Nana" (if memory serves). Hot body, older face, maybe around 35 years old. I figured once the lights were dimmed I wouldn't notice. I was right.
The shower is very small, she squeezed in next to me and we started kissing. It felt very natural. Once outside I got a nice back massage, with special attention to my balls and perineum. Then she lay down next to me and more kissing. It really felt like having a regular girlfriend, although regular girlfriends seldom pay as much attention to maintain you in a constant state of arousal. I fingered her clit quite a bit and she liked it.
Then she asked if I wanted a condom. I told her I wanted a blow job. She put some lubricant on my cock (but no condom) and started to give me a BBBJ. First time I've seen that. Surely it can't taste that good. But whatever, from my point of view it worked.
Then when the time came to proceed to full-on intercourse, she discovered she didn't have any condom! I had to laugh. Anyway, she went downstairs quickly to fetch one, and the operations proceeded smoothly thereafter. Cowgirl, Asian cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, and then I took her missionary with lots of kissing like a real girlfriend to shoot my load.
All in all a fantastic time, but I would not repeat as I normally prefer20yr girls. But I do not regret the experience and even recommend it! Damage: 600 for lotion massage + 1500 for FS + 200 tip = 2300 baht, which I paid on my way out.
Bartchamdo
02-17-14, 09:19
That website and all the pictures look like it did two years ago. Unless I found the wrong site?
http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/Google "snow white Bangkok". It's quicker than asking us.
This is the newer website, but it's not completely up to date:
http://snowwhitesoi26.com/
OsakaGin11
02-17-14, 11:52
I don't dispute your rating for angie, and as I said YMMV.
For those of you who need some eyecandy, today all girls at cherry were dressed like students. See attached pic.
Damn!I am not sure who those gals are on the photos but today I visited Cherry to book either Film or Angie, only to find out the disappointing news from the front desk staff that they no longer work there. The next thought was to book Su who was scheduled to work from 3. 00 pm but she didn't turn up for some unknown reason.
So instead I booked a short Issan TG by the name of Night from Premier 101 Massages. The BJ was average and the sex and massage was OK but I wouldn't revisit her again as I know that there are a lot better female options to spend 2100 Bhat than her.
I am not sure who those gals are on the photos but today I visited Cherry to book either Film or Angie, only to find out the disappointing news from the front desk staff that they no longer work there. The next thought was to book Su who was scheduled to work from 3. 00 pm but she didn't turn up for some unknown reason.
So instead I booked a short Issan TG by the name of Night from Premier 101 Massages. The BJ was average and the sex and massage was OK but I wouldn't revisit her again as I know that there are a lot better female options to spend 2100 Bhat than her.Um. Wonder why Cherry has such a high turnover?
Fast Eddie 48
02-17-14, 13:33
I am not sure who those gals are on the photos but today I visited Cherry to book either Film or Angie, only to find out the disappointing news from the front desk staff that they no longer work there. The next thought was to book Su who was scheduled to work from 3. 00 pm but she didn't turn up for some unknown reason.
So instead I booked a short Issan TG by the name of Night from Premier 101 Massages. The BJ was average and the sex and massage was OK but I wouldn't revisit her again as I know that there are a lot better female options to spend 2100 Bhat than her.
To Osakagin 11
Sorry to hear that I guess myself and Asslover are the lucky one got to try Angie out, she is a intelligent and classy girl I already know she don't last long there think she got a better job and move on.
Fast Eddie 48
I was at Snow White 2 today, and had a session with May, who just moved there from Tulip. Interestingly, she told me Dao of Tulip also just moved to Snow White (I believe the girls rotate between the two Snow White locations, although I'm not sure about this). Although I never had a session with Dao at Tulip as her looks never appealed to me, I know she has the reputation as a "super star" and great performer and some of my friends who have been with her have verified this. So, the exodus from Tulip continues.
OsakaGin11
02-17-14, 16:23
To Osakagin 11.
Sorry to hear that I guess myself and Asslover are the lucky one got to try Angie out, she is a intelligent and classy girl I already know she don't last long there think she got a better job and move on.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks for that Eddie.
I was just wondering if anyone knows if the big massage parlours such as La Belle, Nataree, Utopia or Emmanuel etc take Visa or MasterCard
Or they are cash only?
Thanks in advance.
I definitely paid with a credit card at La Belle.
Thanks for that Eddie.
I was just wondering if anyone knows if the big massage parlours such as La Belle, Nataree, Utopia or Emmanuel etc take Visa or MasterCard
Or they are cash only?
Thanks in advance.
Um. Wonder why Cherry has such a high turnover?I understand that the new management brought in conditions which weren't to the liking of many ladies.
Bartchamdo
02-17-14, 16:41
Um. Wonder why Cherry has such a high turnover?Cherry's turnover is remarkable. From what I read here and what I've discussed with working girls it seems the new management at Cherry isn't popular, so girls quit. I haven't heard specifics or much ill will. Almost all the massage girls are collected, mature, positive, and, most of all, uninformative when talking about past employers.
Some ISG folks who know Cherry keep mentioning "Nadia". Not sure who she is or what her relationship is to Cherry Massage.
Paul Kausch
02-17-14, 17:25
Some ISG folks who know Cherry keep mentioning "Nadia". Not sure who she is or what her relationship is to Cherry Massage.Prior to the change in ownership there was a lady named Nadia working there. She got some pretty good reviews as I recall. My understanding is she is now working under the name Anita at Bangkok Escort Girl.
Cherry's turnover is remarkable. From what I read here and what I've discussed with working girls it seems the new management at Cherry isn't popular, so girls quit. I haven't heard specifics or much ill will. Almost all the massage girls are collected, mature, positive, and, most of all, uninformative when talking about past employers.
Some ISG folks who know Cherry keep mentioning "Nadia". Not sure who she is or what her relationship is to Cherry Massage.Nadea is the owner. She bought it from Cherry. Nadea is a ex-Tulip.
AssLover945
02-17-14, 18:05
I am not sure who those gals are on the photos but today I visited Cherry to book either Film or Angie, only to find out the disappointing news from the front desk staff that they no longer work there. The next thought was to book Su who was scheduled to work from 3. 00 pm but she didn't turn up for some unknown reason.
So instead I booked a short Issan TG by the name of Night from Premier 101 Massages. The BJ was average and the sex and massage was OK but I wouldn't revisit her again as I know that there are a lot better female options to spend 2100 Bhat than her.I think there is some serious miscommunication going on there. Either the person at desk says something in Thai and you don't understand OR the girls have really left? Well I speak thai and I just checked Angie still works there. Film has taken a vacation, Nancy is there, Su, Candy, Yaya, Tengmo, hava etc etc are all there. A few days back another dude reported that nancy hed left, but she is very much there.
Dunno what :P I am happy I speak thai. 5555
That seedy bar across from bamboo, whats up with that place? Any one know?
Never seen any one there except some older thai people giving you a very bored stare as you walk past.
OsakaGin11
02-18-14, 00:33
I definitely paid with a credit card at La Belle.Cheers for that Pita, I will pay a visit to La Belle (and maybe other parlours in the area) today or tomorrow.
BTW does anyone have a favourite sideling gal at La Belle or other parlours in that area they could recommend and have seen recently?
I like them busty, nice face and most importantly provide an enthusiastic and energetic blow job.
OsakaGin11
02-18-14, 00:56
I think there is some serious miscommunication going on there. Either the person at desk says something in Thai and you don't understand OR the girls have really left? Well I speak thai and I just checked Angie still works there. Film has taken a vacation, Nancy is there, Su, Candy, Yaya, Tengmo, hava etc etc are all there. A few days back another dude reported that nancy hed left, but she is very much there.
Dunno what :P I am happy I speak thai. 5555
Hi AL ... well I am not really sure when you checked out the present situation but I was there early afternoon yesterday the 17th of Feb. And at first I spoke to a young girl whose English skills were just passable, but I sure she understood my question about me wanting to book either Film or Angie and she told me that they had quit and no longer worked there.
So I went for a look at some other massage venues and I returned to Cherry around 3. 00 pm as I wanted to book Su, but she wasn't there.
Again I asked the staff about Angie and Cherry and this time a young man in his 20s who spoke quite good English, give me the same definitive answer in English that Film and Angie no longer worked there at Cherry.
So did the staff misunderstand my question? . I don't think so!
Did I misunderstand their answer? . I don't think so either!
If they still worked there, why would they go so much trouble to tell me such a blatant lie that they had quit and left Cherry? Maybe I don't understand Thai culture then?
I just wondering if any other mongers have to been to Cherry in the last few days and have seen either of these two gals?
[QUOTE=OsakaGin11; 1533467.
I just wondering if any other mongers have to been to Cherry in the last few days and have seen either of these two gals?[/QUOTE]I was there three or four days ago. Film was not in the line-up but I can't speak to the other girl. I had a session with BB, who has been working there about a year (I know because I saw her when she first started working).
Overall, the lineup was rather mediocre, with about six or seven girls.
Prior to the change in ownership there was a lady named Nadia working there. She got some pretty good reviews as I recall. My understanding is she is now working under the name Anita at Bangkok Escort Girl.
Two Cherry ladies independently told me this, but of course, I have no idea if it's true.
Nadia (ex Tulip, I can remember enjoying her excellent service there some 5 years ago) the 40-ish, very attractive and unfortunately no longer active buxom lady, frequently tending the reception, is the manager & (co-) owner of Cherry.
The guy, also frequently at the reception, is her husband and the son of Dow @Tulip!
As the Italian saying goes: "Se non è vero, è ben trovato"
Eric Swiss
02-18-14, 09:02
I went to sample some of the Phrom Phong oilies at 1pm. Veredict:
Snow White: 3 girls, none even moderately attractive.
Cherry: 2 girls, neither even moderately attractive.
Addict: 10 girls, including quite a few hotties.
Go, Addict, go!
In addition, the uniforms at Addict are really cute, and the rooms are new and clean.
Obviously I stopped the research at Addict. I went with Oil, the girl I reviewed a couple of weeks ago. Same excellent performance on her side, only difference is that I lasted a lot longer. Maybe it was the beer?
Fast Eddie 48
02-18-14, 15:21
Hi AL. Well I am not really sure when you checked out the present situation but I was there early afternoon yesterday the 17th of Feb. And at first I spoke to a young girl whose English skills were just passable, but I sure she understood my question about me wanting to book either Film or Angie and she told me that they had quit and no longer worked there.
So I went for a look at some other massage venues and I returned to Cherry around 3. 00 pm as I wanted to book Su, but she wasn't there.
Again I asked the staff about Angie and Cherry and this time a young man in his 20s who spoke quite good English, give me the same definitive answer in English that Film and Angie no longer worked there at Cherry.
So did the staff misunderstand my question? . I don't think so!
Did I misunderstand their answer? . I don't think so either!
If they still worked there, why would they go so much trouble to tell me such a blatant lie that they had quit and left Cherry? Maybe I don't understand Thai culture then?
I just wondering if any other mongers have to been to Cherry in the last few days and have seen either of these two gals?To Osaka gin 11.
I am not at all suprise Angie is no longer there like I been sayig all along, she is a hot Classy girl don't last long in this business and I am happy that she got and better job hope the best for her just wish I can have a few more session with her and got her cell number. Girl in this business have high turn over rate I normally don't like to repeat but Angie is hot girl.
Fast Eddie 48
I went to sample some of the Phrom Phong oilies at 1pm. Veredict:
Snow White: 3 girls, none even moderately attractive.
Cherry: 2 girls, neither even moderately attractive.
Addict: 10 girls, including quite a few hotties.
Go, Addict, go!
In addition, the uniforms at Addict are really cute, and the rooms are new and clean.
Obviously I stopped the research at Addict. I went with Oil, the girl I reviewed a couple of weeks ago. Same excellent performance on her side, only difference is that I lasted a lot longer. Maybe it was the beer?There's no one called Oil on the website but thanks for bringing the place to the board's attention. I wonder why there are not more reviews of this place if the girls are as cute as depicted on the website.
Paul Kausch
02-18-14, 20:54
There's no one called Oil on the website but thanks for bringing the place to the board's attention. I wonder why there are not more reviews of this place if the girls are as cute as depicted on the website.At the bottom of the services and rates page on the Addict Massage website there are prices in Japanese. It appears they have a two-tier pricing policy that does not favor farangs.
Member #4263
02-18-14, 21:18
At the bottom of the services and rates page on the Addict Massage website there are prices in Japanese. It appears they have a two-tier pricing policy that does not favor farangs.I just noticed. This is probably the 1st oilie that behaves like a soapie. Open two-tier policy. How sad.
Western787
02-18-14, 23:34
To Osaka gin 11.
I am not at all suprise Angie is no longer there like I been sayig all along, she is a hot Classy girl don't last long in this business and I am happy that she got and better job hope the best for her just wish I can have a few more session with her and got her cell number. Girl in this business have high turn over rate I normally don't like to repeat but Angie is hot girl.
Fast Eddie 48As you said last week "eye candy with a very hot body, the best looking girl I have at Bangkok massage ever" The fact that she has disappeared in effect proves your description.
Is that a picture of her below posted with 2 other girls?
Sounds like a mistress quality level beauty, and perhaps a spotter (paid to find beauties) saw her and she's now setup in a Condo by some rich Thai or foreigner, perhaps Japanese, or (or as will soon happen more and more) a wealthy Chinese business guy. Some of these guys can have a half dozen or more girls stashed in the city, and they can fly them into Hong Kong or wherever.
Alternatively perhaps a customer directly met her on the job, and makes her an offer too good to refuse. He may or may or not be super wealthy, just willing to dump a lot of cash on her, and may or may not be near her age. Once they taste the big money, I don't think they want to work "another job" so I believe its a variation of the same job, but perhaps one a little less debasing, as is doesn't involve having sex with strange men (basically anyone with the bahts) all day long. so they consider it a step up.
Same happens at G clubs and Go Gos'. You see a drop dead beauty, they stay a few weeks, and they vanish just like that.
As you said last week "eye candy with a very hot body, the best looking girl I have at Bangkok massage ever" The fact that she has disappeared in effect proves your description.
Is that a picture of her below posted with 2 other girls?
Sounds like a mistress quality level beauty, and perhaps a spotter (paid to find beauties) saw her and she's now setup in a Condo by some rich Thai or foreigner, perhaps Japanese, or (or as will soon happen more and more) a wealthy Chinese business guy. Some of these guys can have a half dozen or more girls stashed in the city, and they can fly them into Hong Kong or wherever.
Alternatively perhaps a customer directly met her on the job, and makes her an offer too good to refuse. He may or may or not be super wealthy, just willing to dump a lot of cash on her, and may or may not be near her age. Once they taste the big money, I don't think they want to work "another job" so I believe its a variation of the same job, but perhaps one a little less debasing, as is doesn't involve having sex with strange men (basically anyone with the bahts) all day long. So they consider it a step up.
Same happens at G clubs and Go Gos'. You see a drop dead beauty, they stay a few weeks, and they vanish just like that.Yep, good assumption. This seems to be more and more the case, as Thais have more money to spend. See a really hot girl in BKK and chances are she is not with a Western dude. Far less stigma being with an Asian.
Was at an Izakaya last Sunday and saw a Thai dude early 30s with a really hot white skinned chick. Not the type he would take home to mom, but the type you meet at a G Club. He had a brand new Benz and I am sure a wife and kid at home. Good on him.
The real hotties are just not available to us dudes over 40. I do however see younger farang guys with some pretty smokin' hot chicks. Gals that are obviously not working girls. Most all of my younger friends here would not even consider P4P.
Eric Swiss
02-19-14, 10:33
I just noticed. This is probably the 1st oilie that behaves like a soapie. Open two-tier policy. How sad.Well, not quite. When I got up from the couch after selecting Oil from the line-up to pay the Mamasan, I noticed a plastified flyer on the counter giving exactly the same promotion as the one you noticed at the bottom of the "Services & Rates" webpage. Except it was not just in Japanese, it was also translated into English! Now I agree that it is not well advertised, and the random walk-in customer would never be steered towards the "Promotion".
So it seems to me that if you're a respected repeat customer, even if you're white, and you ask for the promotion point-blank, you may be able to get it. Obviously I don't know what comes with it. It says body-to-body massage for 1500 Baht, I don't know if that includes BBBJ and full service. I can't honestly say I've tried, as I prefer to slightly overpay to have a slightly better pick of girls and a slightly better service, but I'm also not saying I will never try.
At the bottom of the services and rates page on the Addict Massage website there are prices in Japanese. It appears they have a two-tier pricing policy that does not favor farangs.The sneaky little shits blocked scripts on the page so google translate doesn't work. Anyway, here's what the Japanese text says:
"Promotion
************** * 1700B / 40 minutes Thailand / oil / lotion massage
************** * Thailand / oil / lotion + hand job 1000B / 1
************** * 1800B / 1. 5 hours Thailand / Oil / Lotion + Body TO Body 1500B / 1 hour
************** * VIP Room 200B"
It doesn't seem to make much sense to offer 1700 baht for 40 minutes and 1800 baht for 1. 5 hours. Maybe we should all send them an email and ask if the promotion is available for everyone.
Eric Swiss
02-19-14, 10:45
There's no one called Oil on the website but thanks for bringing the place to the board's attention. I wonder why there are not more reviews of this place if the girls are as cute as depicted on the website.You have to click through to the second page.
This is Oil:
http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/258006/OIL.html
The picture on the website does not do justice to her pretty face due to too much gaudy make-up (red on the cheekbones). But it gives a good idea of her body.
The one on the right is slightly better except that her tits are between A-cup and B-cup, not anywhere as generous as the picture makes them look. However her nipples stand almost a full inch proud, and half-an-inch in diameter, very black in contrast to her very white skin. Very alluring in a raw animalistic kind of way. And, once again, when you see her face up-close, it has not been deformed into a sort of anomalous Photoshop pose, so it looks very nice and normal and sexy. If she appears to be slim in this pic, it is because in the real world (meaning: Addict Massage Parlor) she really is.
Francesco24
02-19-14, 15:53
Yaya at Cherry Massage, a short review:
She looks nice and has a nice body. Not really a stunner / spinner but the Sweet Young Thing name fits her I think.
The sex itself was very nice, she didn't fake too much or it looked natural anyway. Many positions, some dirty talk etc. Also DATY was very nice and she seemed to enjoy too.
But there are 2 very negative things for me:
1) she just did very short deep kissing in the beginning. After DATY she really avoided my mouth 100, really touring her face as soon as I was getting closer etc. Don't know if it depends on me or whatever, but without kissing for me it loses every meaning to meet a young cute girl.
2) the BBBJ was very very short and she actively tried to move to other things. After a couple of minutes, I gave up and moved on. The technique itself was nice (if you like more licking on the side compared to normal sucking. Which I do, but sadly I'd like it last a lot longer and without the need to bring her back to it everyone minute or so)
So, it may be nice for people caring mostly about the sex itself with a nice young girl. But I seriously doubt I would repeat.
About Addict special price: when I was there once many months ago (there should be my report about Sinam) , I got the special price for the 40minutes course. I just pointed it on the menu. (I am caucasian)
About Bamboo surcharge for anal: it was confirmed by email from the shop and also from a girl working there (chatting on the phone, I haven't met her since she moved from Cherry).
Fast Eddie 48
02-19-14, 16:46
As you said last week "eye candy with a very hot body, the best looking girl I have at Bangkok massage ever" The fact that she has disappeared in effect proves your description.
Is that a picture of her below posted with 2 other girls?
Sounds like a mistress quality level beauty, and perhaps a spotter (paid to find beauties) saw her and she's now setup in a Condo by some rich Thai or foreigner, perhaps Japanese, or (or as will soon happen more and more) a wealthy Chinese business guy. Some of these guys can have a half dozen or more girls stashed in the city, and they can fly them into Hong Kong or wherever.
Alternatively perhaps a customer directly met her on the job, and makes her an offer too good to refuse. He may or may or not be super wealthy, just willing to dump a lot of cash on her, and may or may not be near her age. Once they taste the big money, I don't think they want to work "another job" so I believe its a variation of the same job, but perhaps one a little less debasing, as is doesn't involve having sex with strange men (basically anyone with the bahts) all day long. So they consider it a step up.
Same happens at G clubs and Go Gos'. You see a drop dead beauty, they stay a few weeks, and they vanish just like that.To western 787.
Maybe she is working in Macau or Singapore making the big buck hot girl like Angie can make 300 USD a day at a high end Macau sauna, she have a much better chance meeting a rich sugar daddy there.
Fast Eddie 48
You have to click through to the second page.
This is Oil:
http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/gallerys/258006/OIL.html
The picture on the website does not do justice to her pretty face due to too much gaudy make-up (red on the cheekbones). But it gives a good idea of her body.
The one on the right is slightly better except that her tits are between A-cup and B-cup, not anywhere as generous as the picture makes them look. However her nipples stand almost a full inch proud, and half-an-inch in diameter, very black in contrast to her very white skin. Very alluring in a raw animalistic kind of way. And, once again, when you see her face up-close, it has not been deformed into a sort of anomalous Photoshop pose, so it looks very nice and normal and sexy. If she appears to be slim in this pic, it is because in the real world (meaning: Addict Massage Parlor) she really is.Do you get more than one shot?
Eric Swiss
02-19-14, 19:09
Do you get more than one shot?No, although it might be because I never asked for it.
Eric Swiss
02-20-14, 02:40
The sneaky little shits blocked scripts on the page so google translate doesn't work. Anyway, here's what the Japanese text says:
"Promotion
* * 1700B / 40 minutes Thailand / oil / lotion massage
* * Thailand / oil / lotion + hand job 1000B / 1
* * 1800B / 1. 5 hours Thailand / Oil / Lotion + Body TO Body 1500B / 1 hour
* * VIP Room 200B"
It doesn't seem to make much sense to offer 1700 baht for 40 minutes and 1800 baht for 1. 5 hours. Maybe we should all send them an email and ask if the promotion is available for everyone.I disapprove of you calling these people such bad names. On my computer the Google Translator for Firefox 2. 1.0. 3 Add-On managed to translate the page with no problem at all.
For 1700 baht in 40 minutes you get to penetrate the masseuse's pussy with your dick, whereas for 1800 baht in 1. 5 hours you do not: it is only body-to-body rub. That makes complete sense.
I recommend against sending Addict an email to ask if the promotion is available for everyone. Speaking for myself, I am definitely not emailing them about that.
I disapprove of you calling these people such bad names. On my computer the Google Translator for Firefox 2. 1.0. 3 Add-On managed to translate the page with no problem at all.
For 1700 baht in 40 minutes you get to penetrate the masseuse's pussy with your dick, whereas for 1800 baht in 1. 5 hours you do not: it is only body-to-body rub. That makes complete sense.
I recommend against sending Addict an email to ask if the promotion is available for everyone. Speaking for myself, I am definitely not emailing them about that.Why not? I'm just suggesting asking them so we can see what kind of people they are. Do they consider non-Japanese customers to be second class? If not then great but if so we should take our custom elsewhere.
Eric Swiss
02-20-14, 04:13
Why not? I'm just suggesting asking them so we can see what kind of people they are. Do they consider non-Japanese customers to be second class? If not then great but if so we should take our custom elsewhere.If I want to find out whether the promotion is available to a White customer such as myself, I will do exactly what Francesco24 did: I will go to the counter of Addict Massage in person, point to the promotion on the menu, and ask the question face-to-face. Given that it worked for him, I expect that it will work for me. But that is just my way of doing things here.
Paul Kausch
02-20-14, 04:14
Yaya at Cherry massage short review:
But there are 2 very negative things for me:
1) she just did very short deep kissing in the beginning. After DATY she really avoided my mouth
2) the BBBJ was very very short and she actively tried to move to other things.Yaya is described as being 20, young and fresh, which I take to mean she's new to the game. My experience is DFK, DATY and BBBJ do not come naturally to Thai women. One's mouth is not used as much in sex as in North America and Europe. My observation is after they have some experience they discover DFK and DATY is very pleasurable and a BBBJ is a lot less working than FS.
Thanks for the clarification on a-level at Bamboo. In December I was not charged extra for a-level.
About Addict special price: when I was there once many months ago (there should be my report about Sinam) , I got the special price for the 40minutes course. I just pointed it on the menu. (I am caucasian)Thanks, that seems to clear things up. I don't know why they don't put it in English to avoid ill-feeling.
Why not? I'm just suggesting asking them so we can see what kind of people they are. Do they consider non-Japanese customers to be second class? If not then great but if so we should take our custom elsewhere.I sent them an email to book one of the girls and if I understand their reply correctly these prices, at least the 1800 for 1 1/2 h I was asking them about, only include HJ, not full service. So if anyone goes and checks with them, better make sure what these prices include.
Yaya is described as being 20, young and fresh, which I take to mean she's new to the game. My experience is DFK, DATY and BBBJ do not come naturally to Thai women. One's mouth is not used as much in sex as in North America and Europe. My observation is after they have some experience they discover DFK and DATY is very pleasurable and a BBBJ is a lot less working than FS.
Thanks for the clarification on a-level at Bamboo. In December I was not charged extra for a-level.On the risk of dropping myself in with Bam I have never been charged the much discussed A+ surcharge and was there yesterday.
Francesco24
02-21-14, 18:50
On the risk of dropping myself in with Bam I have never been charged the much discussed A+ surcharge and was there yesterday.Maybe it depends on the girl. But the official policy of the shop (from their email reply) seems to be 500 baht extra for A+.
The girl who also confirmed it to me privately on the phone chat was Ploy. Maybe she is one of the girls charging for it extra (or at least with some people. Me for example I guess 555).
On the risk of dropping myself in with Bam I have never been charged the much discussed A+ surcharge and was there yesterday.Interesting. I was after a session with Cheer in early January and Bam even showed me the fine print on the "menu."
Maybe it depends on the girl. But the official policy of the shop (from their email reply) seems to be 500 baht extra for A+.
The girl who also confirmed it to me privately on the phone chat was Ploy. Maybe she is one of the girls charging for it extra (or at least with some people. Me for example I guess 555).That might be correct that it is left to the discretion of the girl. Never been with Ploy or Vodka
Traveler1234
02-23-14, 02:55
I had only 36 hrs before the mrs joined me and only had time for one session. My hotel knows the wife so couldn't do room srvice. Took bts, tried first at Cherry for line-up, pretty poor, then walked back to snow white 2. Only 5 to choose from but two looked good to me. Almost went for double. Had nice two hr session, no surcharge. Nice GF action and all holes available.
Only difference is they both had laminated price list of massage + 1500. Ladyboy at counter asked me to pay up front. I merely smiled and said: when I am done, will pay. No hassles from them.
If mrs goes shopping today, might try to sneak out. Or wait till next trip in late March or early April. YMMV
This is my second time in Bangkok but my first time mongering.
I'm 27, 178cm and average body and looks.
First stop Soi Cowboy per the recommendations from this forum my friend and I started at Baccarat, the girls for the most part were stunning, a bit on the small side in general but gorgeous none the less. In a weird way I appreciated that they were still wearing clothes however minimal it's a bit sexier that way.
After a few drinks we did a pub crawl down the strip getting progressively drunk as we went, ended the night in a bar that escapes my memory, but do remember the sexy girl who was playing with me for the last 3 hours before I called it a night, unfortunately the mamasan didn't let me barfine but a great night all the same damage for the night 6500 baht for me and about 3k for my friend.
Second day of mongering, realistically second day ever, after reading a review by atexguy I think that his name, I decided to give Emmanuelle a go, went in at roughly 1245pm day time, there were slim pickings only 3 girls two at 3100 and one at 2800 but I can't explain the pricing because the girl at 2800 was by far sexier than the other two. She a wicked smile and when I picked her the other two giggled and clapped. Very cute, we went up and started with a great massage in the bath and she seemed to love kissing which was great! Once we got down to business she was way to to sexy for me to handle and I finished in about 5 minutes!
Round two started a few minutes later and a combination of finishing minutes ago and a second condom that was way to tight meant this time I was struggling to come at all 30 minutes later was exhausted but to her credit she never stopped she was like a sexy energiser bunny.
A few uncovered and covered blow jobs later and I still couldn't keep my hands off her!
We were playing around me having already ripped the too tight condom of and just playing and kissing when things started to intensify again, but this time we just went for it and forgot the condom for a bit at first she was saying can't but she didn't stop me and continued to grind me from on top, as I was starting to get closer she seemed to cum for the 5th or so time and got off me to out a condom on, we slowed the pace and I came for a second time.
I was really pleased with the girl and her perpetual smile and insatiable lust and great kissing, but I was a bit confused at the end, as we were going downstairs she told me there was a 500 baht tip required for two times and then asked me to also give her a tip as she wouldn't keep the 500, gave her 1000 total above the 2800 plus a drink which I didn't mind because she definitely earned it but I thought this tip thing was a bit suspicious all the same? Any insight?
Member #4237
02-23-14, 15:09
Decided on a 2 hour at Bamboo, arriving at 6 PM. When I got there, only one girl was available (Dao). Instead of waiting or going somewhere else, I decided to just go with it. I've only been at this for a few weeks and I need to have a better sense to walk away when a choice isn't presented, but I had already decided I was going to get a 2 hour massage +extra, so I went with it.
The picture on Bamboo's site either shows a different girl or is massively photoshopped. She is darker than the pictures, sporting B cups. Her English skills were nonexistent. She asked me where I was from, and I said the name of the state and she had no idea what that was (and it was one of the States most people know).
Still, we got undressed and got in the shower. She washed my front and back and then washed herself. She was amicable to DFK. Though after a minute or two, when she got back to washing, she offered me some Listerine! It would have been insulting, but I brushed my teeth and used mouthwash before coming over, so it was really just part of her routine. She also took a swig and we were back at it.
As we were drying off, the room seemed very cold, so she adjusted the temperature. She started with me on my stomach and she went through a massage routine of my legs, back and shoulder using baby oil. She was using her full body, including rubbing her tits all over my backside (from calves to shoulder) and then using her ass to massage from calves to shoulder. Then she turned me over and really did a cursory rubbing over my front side before starting a BBBJ. She is quite adept at this with her mouth, but doesn't seem to know how much more she can increase the enjoyment with proper synchronization of her hand and mouth. She did move around a bit, giving me the opportunity to explore her pussy and asshole with my hands.
After a bit, she climbed aboard. We went through a variety of positions, each of which she seemed to enjoy. For my part, though, it wasn't a great experience. There were times when it felt like fucking a glass of water. Really no sensation to it. Still, I worked a variety of positions with her and she was eager to do whatever it took. When I took her from behind, I spent quite a bit of time exploring her asshole with my thumbs. She didn't make any efforts to stop me and I probably could have made the transition to anal, but I kept at it.
Eventually, I coaxed her into going back to BBBJ, which was her strongest suit. I finished with CIM.
The post coital shower was actually pretty nice. She was tender and not in a hurry to get it over with. After she took a bit more Listerine, we finished with more DFK and my time was up.
The damage was 2500 BHT, plus a tip. As I walked out, I saw much more attractive girls waiting. I must have just visited at the wrong time. Not my worst experience. She was very eager to please and had some unique massage stylings, but if I make it back to Bamboo, I'll have to try someone else.
Bartchamdo
02-24-14, 14:35
Decided on a 2 hour at Bamboo, arriving at 6 PM. When I got there, only one girl was available (Dao). Instead of waiting or going somewhere else, I decided to just go with it.In December I hung out with the girls briefly and I remember Dao well because she had the best English. She was actually translating for the women. Dao's English was so good you'd think she lived in the USA for a couple of years.
However, you say she had "non-existent" English. This makes me think that maybe the previous Dao moved on and was replaced by another woman. Either that or when she was with you she was faking having poor English for some strange reason. I looked at her picture on the website. It looks vaguely like the lady I remember, but as you point out all those pictures are heavily photoshopped. Plus in the case of more experienced girls they're often a few years out of date. Overall, I'm still confused if it's the same lady or if someone else took her name.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-24-14, 16:03
I was really pleased with the girl and her perpetual smile and insatiable lust and great kissing, but I was a bit confused at the end, as we were going downstairs she told me there was a 500 baht tip required for two times and then asked me to also give her a tip as she wouldn't keep the 500, gave her 1000 total above the 2800 plus a drink which I didn't mind because she definitely earned it but I thought this tip thing was a bit suspicious all the same? Any insight?She scammed you. Why would management care how many times you came? Further, how are they going to know how many times you came unless they have a video camera (doubtful) or count the condoms. Even if they do the latter, it is easy enough for her to dispose of the second one or make up a story as to why she needed two condoms without your coming twice.
Still, we got undressed and got in the shower. She washed my front and back and then washed herself. She was amicable to DFK. Though after a minute or two, when she got back to washing, she offered me some Listerine! It would have been insulting, but I brushed my teeth and used mouthwash before coming over, so it was really just part of her routine. She also took a swig and we were back at it.Why would that be insulting? I usually offer it to the girls who stay with me. Perhaps I'm insulting them?
Her English skills were nonexistent. She asked me where I was from, and I said the name of the state and she had no idea what that was (and it was one of the States most people know).I could retort that you probably don't know the names of any regions in Thailand, and you are in their country. But I guess it's a fair comment. Just don't forget the education level of these girls is quite low, and most of their knowledge of the West comes from talking to customers and watching TV. I guess most will know New York and San Francisco, but probably not much beyond that. I am always surprised by their lack of curiosity about me and where I come from, but I guess if you see 1000 customers a year you stop being interested.
Western787
02-24-14, 22:21
First stop Soi Cowboy per the recommendations from this forum my friend and I started at Baccarat, the girls for the most part were stunning, a bit on the small side in general but gorgeous none the less. In a weird way I appreciated that they were still wearing clothes however minimal it's a bit sexier that way.
Perhaps your are using certain terms in a very loose sense. No big deal.
However I've been in Baccarra dozens of times, but I have yet to see the majority ("for the most part" as you state) as truly "stunning" or "gorgeous" And note I am one that over and over again points out that P4P (low 8 and up) hotties abound in Bangkok for those willing to find them, and this includes girls in (non Go Go) regular bars and many other venues. To me for a woman to be "gorgeous" (which IMHO is high 8 level pushing into the 9 level) she needs near head-spinning or double take looks, including a very pretty face, great complexion, slender but often still with a nice ass, long legs relative to height. small waist, although breast size IMHO is irrelevant most times.
In Baccarra generally no more than 5% or (being generous) 20% on a typical night fit anything close to that
Yes, there are a fair amount of (high 7 or perhaps low 8) "hot" girls and even more "cute" or somewhat cute girls, but IMHO "gorgeous stunners" just are not that common
Member #4263
02-24-14, 22:56
Perhaps your are using certain terms in a very loose sense. No big deal.
However I've been in Baccarra dozens of times, but I have yet to see the majority ("for the most part" as you state) as truly "stunning" or "gorgeous" And note I am one that over and over again points out that P4P (low 8 and up) hotties abound in Bangkok for those willing to find them, and this includes girls in (non Go Go) regular bars and many other venues. To me for a woman to be "gorgeous" (which IMHO is high 8 level pushing into the 9 level) she needs near head-spinning or double take looks, including a very pretty face, great complexion, slender but often still with a nice ass, long legs relative to height. Small waist, although breast size IMHO is irrelevant most times.
In Baccarra generally no more than 5% or (being generous) 20% on a typical night fit anything close to that.
Yes, there are a fair amount of (high 7 or perhaps low 8)"hot" girls and even more "cute" or somewhat cute girls, but IMHO "gorgeous stunners" just are not that commonI read that some (not all) models in high-end soapies can be gorgeous stunners, so it looks like I made a right choice to focus on MP's rather than Go Go's. I'm very "fussy about pussy" so I'm pleased to know that Baccara is not all that. This video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzglD9K807s
Is perhaps the best video for Baccara on YouTube. You can see some faces, but they are not all that "gorgeous", fat legs too. However, they look pretty good to me for just for eye candy.
Compared to the videos of other bars, these women seem to be quite attractive. However, if you check the net for pics of models or even high-class sideliners at high-end MP's like La Belle, Emmanuelle, Poseidon or Utopia it's a different story. I assume that Baccara girls would be the low-end sideliners in a high-end soapy, with maybe Rainbow 4 girls being a little better?
Western787
02-25-14, 04:26
I read that some (not all) models in high-end soapies can be gorgeous stunners, so it looks like I made a right choice to focus on MP's rather than Go Go's. I'm very "fussy about pussy" so I'm pleased to know that Baccara is not all that. This video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzglD9K807s
Is perhaps the best video for Baccara on YouTube. You can see some faces, but they are not all that "gorgeous", fat legs too. However, they look pretty good to me for just for eye candy.
Compared to the videos of other bars, these women seem to be quite attractive. However, if you check the net for pics of models or even high-class sideliners at high-end MP's like La Belle, Emmanuelle, Poseidon or Utopia it's a different story. I assume that Baccara girls would be the low-end sideliners in a high-end soapy, with maybe Rainbow 4 girls being a little better?Even the giant soapy MPs these days seem unable to produce on a consistent basis authentic true (in other words 8. 75 plus flat out gorgeous) stunners. Its generally sporadic these days. A few things could be happening 1. Upon application the Soapies desperate for cash are referring these ultra hot girls directly to rich Thai, Japanese, or Chinese business guys willing to pay huge finder fees. 2. or they are being kept as private stock by the Soapy only for select clientele. 3, its just following the larger mega trend where ultra hot Thai women have better non P4P options in life w/o being penalized in financial terms. Yes, some will slip through but they just not commonly being presented, or at least not to walk-in clients.
This is true of the Ratchada (Huai Kwang Station) clubs including The Lord, Colonze 4, Emmanuelle, Poseiden and Alaina and (New Petchburi Station) La Belle. Now Nataree which is also a Huai Kwang based soapy has a large amount of sideliners and the reason they are doing good business while the others fight for customers is that they consistently have cute girls and borderline stunners, most at reasonable prices
One can easily walk between the major Soapies near and around Huai Kwang, and drop in and in a matter of a few hours check out the inventories any night. Girls mostly arrive after 5 pm, with Fri and Saturdays usually better, but business off due to the protests. Getting to Huai Kwang use to be very simple, now takes a bit longer because of the mess at Soi 21
Have you ever met a squirter in one of the shops? I will be thankful for your help 'cause I have been looking for a long time.
Paul Kausch
02-25-14, 07:59
It was soon clear that Bo was right about Cheer. She is one horny lady. After a while Bo and I decided we would try to see how many times we could make Cheer come. Both ladies laughed and thought this was a great idea. So Bo and I proceeded. Over the next hour or so we managed to coax five orgasms out of Cheer. Each successive orgasm came more quickly and was more intense. Cheer remarked that cumming makes her want to cum even more. On the last two orgasms, as her orgasm approached she arched up into a wrestler's bridge with only the bottom of her feet and head touching the bed. On the last orgasm she squirted. Not a lot but enough to wet the bed. Cheer said she always did that after she's had several orgasms.
Have you ever met a squirter in one of the shops? I will be thankful for your help 'cause I have been looking for a long time.Note the paragraph above from a prior report on Bo and Cheer from Bamboo.
Member #4263
02-25-14, 09:03
Getting to Huai Kwang use to be very simple, now takes a bit longer because of the mess at Soi 21I thought all you need to do is get the MRT from Sukhumvit and get off at Huay Kwuang. Am I missing something?
Western787
02-25-14, 20:46
I thought all you need to do is get the MRT from Sukhumvit and get off at Huay Kwuang. Am I missing something?
Entering the Sukhumvit subway stop by definition generally requires being in close proximity to the protest site. In fact that's why the PDRC selected key intersections.
In non rush hour times the pass thru can still be done quickly quickly, but the intersection of Soi 21 and Sukhumvit has been an encampment and protest site and has been clogged up since Feb 12th, and while the odds are low, the recent deaths near the SIAM shopping area (a few miles west on Sukhmvit) prove that even those not involved in the protest (example shoppers) can be randomly killed merely by being near such sites.
So what used to be simple is now a bit more complicated.
I read that some (not all) models in high-end soapies can be gorgeous stunners, so it looks like I made a right choice to focus on MP's rather than Go Go's. I'm very "fussy about pussy" so I'm pleased to know that Baccara is not all that. This video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzglD9K807s
Is perhaps the best video for Baccara on YouTube. You can see some faces, but they are not all that "gorgeous", fat legs too. However, they look pretty good to me for just for eye candy.
Compared to the videos of other bars, these women seem to be quite attractive. However, if you check the net for pics of models or even high-class sideliners at high-end MP's like La Belle, Emmanuelle, Poseidon or Utopia it's a different story. I assume that Baccara girls would be the low-end sideliners in a high-end soapy, with maybe Rainbow 4 girls being a little better?Taste of the customers varies a lot. Japanese customers in Baccara will call over a "stunner" who is downright ugly to my taste because of the seriously altered face (and tits) that makes the girl look: not Thai, barbie doll or sometimes ladyboy like, I. E. The very last girl I would consider. Bacarra and Sharks have very few naturally beautiful girls and 95% are not at all stunning to me.
Having said this, the high end soapies also have a very high percentage of girls with fake nose jobs and a moderate percentage with fake tits.
If you like severely altered girls, you will be in heaven either way. I am harder to please so I pick natural lookers. Even in Rainbow 4 I am not seeing that many girls whose looks really appeal immensely, but its definitely better than Bacarra and Sharks for me. I also get put off with very doll like hairdos.
Most guys will see a very young girl with a pretty good body and label her "stunning" regardless of how ordinary the face looks. Newbies to Thailand may well think 50% are stunning, compared to the hags and buffaloes back home.
Piggy noses and bird beak noses (after opps) are a big turn off for me.
A really top class soapy should have a few very beautiful girls (to someone's taste) , once the line-up gets good at 6PM, so that is a reasonable bet. Check out everything and decide your own preference is best.
Member #4263
02-25-14, 21:45
Entering the Sukhumvit subway stop by definition generally requires being in close proximity to the protest site. In fact that's why the PDRC selected key intersections.
In non rush hour times the pass thru can still be done quickly quickly, but the intersection of Soi 21 and Sukhumvit has been an encampment and protest site and has been clogged up since Feb 12th, and while the odds are low, the recent deaths near the SIAM shopping area (a few miles west on Sukhmvit) prove that even those not involved in the protest (example shoppers) can be randomly killed merely by being near such sites.
So what used to be simple is now a bit more complicated.Yes, I types "Bangkok protest locations" on Google and found out what's happening in the Asok intersection.
The best solution (as I figured it out) that would help for all times would be to get the BTS to Mo Chit and then walk to MRT Chatuchak Park (2 min. I guess) and then take the MRT from Chatuchak Park to MRT Huay Kwuang. I know it takes much longer than 15 min. Like 40 min or so but it's much safer.
I absolutely adore the BTS website. It gives you times, price and it's just so easy to figure out.
Member #4263
02-25-14, 21:50
Taste of the customers varies a lot. Japanese customers in Baccara will call over a "stunner" who is downright ugly to my taste because of the seriously altered face (and tits) that makes the girl look: not Thai, barbie doll or sometimes ladyboy like, I. E. The very last girl I would consider. Bacarra and Sharks have very few naturally beautiful girls and 95% are not at all stunning to me.
Having said this, the high end soapies also have a very high percentage of girls with fake nose jobs and a moderate percentage with fake tits.
If you like severely altered girls, you will be in heaven either way. I am harder to please so I pick natural lookers..It seems we have similar tastes then. Good to know. I really don't like nose jobs and your review on Amsterdam Entertainment Complex, as well as pics on the net I found made me realize I would've been really upset to see these Amsterdam chicks with nosejobs. I really like it natural best. Personally, I can accept a titjob, but not a nosejob. I don't care much about tits at all. Also, the face to me is of utmost importance. It's what I look at first, followed by legs.
Western787
02-25-14, 23:50
Make that Jan 12th not Feb 12th as to when the SHUTDOWN began
Western787
02-26-14, 00:17
Taste of the customers varies a lot. Japanese customers in Baccara will call over a "stunner" who is downright ugly to my taste because of the seriously altered face (and tits) that makes the girl look: not Thai, barbie doll or sometimes ladyboy like, I. E. The very last girl I would consider. Bacarra and Sharks have very few naturally beautiful girls and 95% are not at all stunning to me.
Having said this, the high end soapies also have a very high percentage of girls with fake nose jobs and a moderate percentage with fake tits.
If you like severely altered girls, you will be in heaven either way. I am harder to please so I pick natural lookers. Even in Rainbow 4 I am not seeing that many girls whose looks really appeal immensely, but its definitely better than Bacarra and Sharks for me. I also get put off with very doll like hairdos.
Most guys will see a very young girl with a pretty good body and label her "stunning" regardless of how ordinary the face looks. Newbies to Thailand may well think 50% are stunning, compared to the hags and buffaloes back home.
Piggy noses and bird beak noses (after opps) are a big turn off for me.
A really top class soapy should have a few very beautiful girls (to someone's taste) , once the line-up gets good at 6PM, so that is a reasonable bet. Check out everything and decide your own preference is best.If one included fake breasts, that would rule out most of the Miss Universe contestants, most NFL cheerleaders, and probably the majority of Playboy models, so to me breasts, fake or otherwise are all the same.
On a side note Dancer #31 at Rainbow 4, who seems as far I can tell to have disappeared from the scene, has a very strong resemblance to Miss China 2011, so much so (especially in facial terms) that someone unfamiliar with her could easily pick her out on stage merely after being shown a photo of Miss China. Admittedly she did act somewhat crazy at times, and certainly had a frenetic dancing style. Perhaps she has been sponsored full time as she did seem to be soliciting for someone to do so, so maybe a Japanese or Chinese dude has her stashed away somewhere
http://missuniversechina.com/2011/wp-content/uploads/luo-zilin-evening-gown1.jpg
Member #4698
02-26-14, 00:39
If one included fake breasts, that would rule out most of the Miss Universe contestants, most NFL cheerleaders, and probably the majority of Penthouse modelsThat's right. It's been decades since I was attracted to those pumped up fake type girls. One of the great breakthroughs of internet porn was the introduction of large numbers of really nice looking women with natural A cup / B cup breasts and freedom from the Hefner ideology of what a good looking sexy women is all about."Free at last! Fee at last! Thank God Almighty, We are free at last!"
I guess this is a another example of how ratings about girls vary greatly person to person. My 7 might be the next guy's 5 or 4 even and vice a versa. But if big titty girls turn any of you guys on then I say go for it and I recommend giving Brazil a try. It is out of control in Sao Paulo and Rio.
Western787
02-26-14, 00:50
That's right. It's been decades since I was attracted to those pumped up fake type girls. One of the great breakthroughs of internet porn was the introduction of large numbers of really nice looking women with natural A cup / B cup breasts and freedom from the Hefner ideology of what a good looking sexy women were all about."Free at last! Fee at last! Thank God Almighty, We are free at last!"The point I am making making is one should not rule out a girl with fake breasts any more than one might rule out a girl with caps on her teeth. It doesn't make much sense to me, but hey if one isn't attracted to a girl merely because of fake breasts, fine with me..
If one included fake breasts, that would rule out most of the Miss Universe contestants, most NFL cheerleaders, and probably the majority of Playboy models, so to me breasts, fake or otherwise are all the same.Me too. Don't care if they are fake or real, big or small, as long as they are nice. But the a* is far more important.
Western787
02-26-14, 01:05
T.
I guess this is a another example of how ratings about girls vary greatly person to person. My 7 might be the next guy's 5 or 4 even and vice a versa. But if big titty girls turn any of you guys on then I say go for it and I recommend giving Brazil a try. It is out of control in Sao Paulo and Rio.Large breasts don't do anything for me, however to each his own, but I don't rule girls out because they have fakes, and in fact some girls are smart enough to add fakes that are "small C's" anyways, and they can look quite real.
In regard to the issue that female beauty is really subjective, that is a myth, There are perhaps 10 to 20% of males that like "thick" or "phat" or stubby legs with avg face but with giant tits or whatever other thing turns them on, but they are in a distinct minority, and with 70 to 80% of males they know exactly what a smoking hot (9 level)"stunner" looks. The criteria are well known and easily predicted, and when a woman has such attributes, the vast majority of males will define her as gorgeous. There is no big mystery and this also crosses most cultures, so were' talking a global standard for beauty that is near universal.
That's right. It's been decades since I was attracted to those pumped up fake type girls. One of the great breakthroughs of internet porn was the introduction of large numbers of really nice looking women with natural A cup / B cup breasts and freedom from the Hefner ideology of what a good looking sexy women is all about."Free at last! Fee at last! Thank God Almighty, We are free at last!"
I guess this is a another example of how ratings about girls vary greatly person to person. My 7 might be the next guy's 5 or 4 even and vice a versa. But if big titty girls turn any of you guys on then I say go for it and I recommend giving Brazil a try. It is out of control in Sao Paulo and Rio.I'd say that a lot of guys like women's boobs for their big female nipples, regardless of the woman's breast size. But such nipple attractiveness is totally hidden from view, when the lady is covering up her boobs with her bra and clothing. Which is pretty much everywhere, except in the private room, where the lady undresses with you.
I've learned from my experience that a woman with small boobs often looks a lot more attractive to me, when she undresses. But the attractiveness of women with big boobs doesn't change much, when they undress. You get what you expect.
I just concluded a trip to LOS. I do agree with a poster here that mongers are way too generous with grading. I must have encountered at least 400-500 girls during my week in Pattaya and Bangkok. Out of these 500, not one was stunner or even a 8/10. Perhaps the best looker was no more than 6/10.
I restricted myself to mostly freelancers but did visit Baccara in both places. Last year there were at least 2 stunners. 8.5/10 type but none this year. Nada. Rien. The beautiful girls are aplenty in LOS in malls / metros / markets but WGs are, I am afraid, all, fuglies.
If one included fake breasts, that would rule out most of the Miss Universe contestants, most NFL cheerleaders, and probably the majority of Playboy models, so to me breasts, fake or otherwise are all the same.
On a side note Dancer #31 at Rainbow 4, who seems as far I can tell to have disappeared from the scene, has a very strong resemblance to Miss China 2011, so much so (especially in facial terms) that someone unfamiliar with her could easily pick her out on stage merely after being shown a photo of Miss China. Admittedly she did act somewhat crazy at times, and certainly had a frenetic dancing style. Perhaps she has been sponsored full time as she did seem to be soliciting for someone to do so, so maybe a Japanese or Chinese dude has her stashed away somewhere.
http://missuniversechina.com/2011/wp-content/uploads/luo-zilin-evening-gown1.jpg
Note the paragraph above from a prior report on Bo and Cheer from Bamboo.Thanks but I do not agree with Bamboo policy (extra money for anal) so will not visit the place. Still looking for another option.
Paul Kausch
02-26-14, 06:19
Thanks but I do not agree with Bamboo policy (extra money for anal) so will not visit the place. Still looking for another option.Yes, the anal surcharge sucks. You might try sending an email to several of the reputable escort agencies and ask if any of their ladies are squirters. Good ones that come to mind are (in alphabetical order) Bangkok Escorts, Bangkok Gold and Pure Bangkok Escorts. There may be other good agencies. These are three agencies I've had good experiences with.
Thanks but I do not agree with Bamboo policy (extra money for anal) so will not visit the place. Still looking for another option.Glad to see that many are on board about this. Really made me mad on my first and only visit. Whoever is still going there might want to mention to Bam that she is getting some negative press on the boards and has lost some customers. Tried to tell her this would happen, but I guess she did not listen.
Tried to tell her this would happen, but I guess she did not listen.Maybe because there are still plenty of mongers out who don't care about the 500 THB surcharge and pay it with a smile and maybe we're just the nickle & dime minority.
Worst case scenario: it works out for Bamboo and will be adopted by Mango, Cherry and Snow White
Member #4263
02-26-14, 09:52
That's right. It's been decades since I was attracted to those pumped up fake type girls. One of the great breakthroughs of internet porn was the introduction of large numbers of really nice looking women with natural A cup / B cup breasts and freedom from the Hefner ideology of what a good looking sexy women is all about."Free at last! Fee at last! Thank God Almighty, We are free at last!"
I guess this is a another example of how ratings about girls vary greatly person to person. My 7 might be the next guy's 5 or 4 even and vice a versa. But if big titty girls turn any of you guys on then I say go for it and I recommend giving Brazil a try. It is out of control in Sao Paulo and Rio.For big titty guys, I would also recommend giving FKK Artemis in Berlin (pound for pound the best FKK around IMHO) and FKK The Palace in Frankfurt have some of the hottest Rumanians and Bulgarians. .
This is almost a sure a way to get 9's and 10's. Artemis and The Palace really have high standards.
Member #4263
02-26-14, 10:04
Maybe because there are still plenty of mongers out who don't care about the 500 THB surcharge and pay it with a smile and maybe we're just the nickle & dime minority.
Worst case scenario: it works out for Bamboo and will be adopted by Mango, Cherry and Snow WhiteThing about the anal surcharge is that All Star Massage (it belongs to the same group of EZ1 and EZ2) also has it and it's an extra 1, 000 baht.
http://www.allstarsbkk.com/index.php?p=ladies
Scroll down and you'll see the ladies who anal. It says "extra 1, 000 baht".
http://www.allstarsbkk.com/index.php?p=services
It's also listed in their services.
I can't even find a single post on the forum about All Star Massage that is located in the same Soi as Cherry, Apple, Dream Heaven and EZ2. I guess it's not popular for foreigners, but if it's still in business (maybe a forum member residing in BKK can check) it means that there are plenty who will pay the surcharge or perhaps it's not an issue for them since it's meant to be a teen massage place like Loveteen and Dream Heaven. Bamboo probably learned from them since All Star has been around for a little longer.
Hi guys,
What would you say is a fair price for an overnighter?
This would be around midnight, after she finishes work and would go home anyway, so a "shopfine" is not an issue.
The lady in question is one of the top acts from the Tulip-Mango-SW-Cherry-EZ class of MPs.
We've been together several times and seem to click.
In the shop, she gets a very generous extra tip, so money is never discussed, but I hate this "up to you" situation.
On the other hand, I don't want to overpay outrageously, as that spoils the market.
Thanks for your input.
DS
Maybe because there are still plenty of mongers out who don't care about the 500 THB surcharge and pay it with a smile and maybe we're just the nickle & dime minority.
Worst case scenario: it works out for Bamboo and will be adopted by Mango, Cherry and Snow WhiteCould be, but I kind of doubt it. Seen several postings of dudes unhappy with the extra charge. Soi 8 has also proved to be a tough location.
Seen several postings of dudes unhappy with the extra charge.Yes, maybe you're right. But what if just a minority of customers takes part in the internet world, no matter here, or another forum or Bangkok Rough Guide or any other forum?
I'm unhappy with the surcharge as any of you but maybe this is just the beginning
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What would you say is a fair price for an overnighter?3. 000 THB, that's you have to pay for an overnight outcall from 9pm or 10pm until sunrise.
. and would go home anyway, .I'd bet my money rather on "go out to Climax, Club Insanity, Mixx, etc. for freelancing"
Maybe because there are still plenty of mongers out who don't care about the 500 THB surcharge and pay it with a smile and maybe we're just the nickle & dime minority.
Worst case scenario: it works out for Bamboo and will be adopted by Mango, Cherry and Snow WhiteIf the extra 500 THB goes to the lady, then this is sure to encourage more ladies to start having anal sex with their guys.
It needs to be a regular surcharge to persuade the ladies, because it's not easy to start having anal sex at first. It takes some practice and experience, before the lady becomes good at it. Which means that if you offer a 500THB tip to a lady who has never done anal before, then she'll probably reject it, because it's such a hassle to do anal for the first time ever. But if the lady knows that she'll get an extra 500 THB every time for anal sex with a guy, then she has a much better reason to go through the trouble of having anal sex for the first time and getting better at it with practice.
If you want to have more and better-looking women who are willing to take a good anal drilling from their guys, then this is the way to do it.
If the extra 500 THB goes to the lady, then this is sure to encourage more ladies to start having anal sex with their guys.
It needs to be a regular surcharge to persuade the ladies, because it's not easy to start having anal sex at first. It takes some practice and experience, before the lady becomes good at it. Which means that if you offer a 500THB tip to a lady who has never done anal before, then she'll probably reject it, because it's such a hassle to do anal for the first time ever. But if the lady knows that she'll get an extra 500 THB every time for anal sex with a guy, then she has a much better reason to go through the trouble of having anal sex for the first time and getting better at it with practice.
If you want to have more and better-looking women who are willing to take a good anal drilling from their guys, then this is the way to do it.I doubt many oily girls are anal virgins. I'm sure the ones who don't do it have tried it and decided it's not something they want to do several times a day.
I doubt many oily girls are anal virgins. I'm sure the ones who don't do it have tried it and decided it's not something they want to do several times a day.Ploy and Vodka were for sure not anal virgins before they started to work in Bamboo. Both served A+ in Cherry massage without any extra money. BTW, I heard (is this true?) that co-owner of Bamboo is Boo (ex-Mango girl). If this is true then I had a pleasure to visit her back door also without +1000Bath. Of course if girl is nice and work hard then the tip is natural thing.
I doubt many oily girls are anal virgins. I'm sure the ones who don't do it have tried it and decided it's not something they want to do several times a day.I've just read a post (#2326) from the Annies Massage thread about this issue. Someone there e-mailed Aey to ask for her A+ recommendations, and Aey replied that none of the ladies at Annies Massage offer this kind of service.
Anal sex for women is very uncommon in Thailand, much less common than in other countries. It's something some massage ladies learn to do in response to interest from foreign customers.
I'd say that most Thai massage places don't offer anal sex, it's not available there, and most of their women probably never had anal sex.
If the extra 500 THB goes to the lady, then this is sure to encourage more ladies to start having anal sex with their guys.
If you want to have more and better-looking women who are willing to take a good anal drilling from their guys, then this is the way to do it.Everything you write sounds very legit. But. Assuming you are right why do only girls from Bamboo that provided anal sex "for free" in other oil massage shops (Bo, Cheer, Ploy, Toey / Vodka) do it now for a surcharge? Why aren't there more girls who provide anal sex?
My best guess is that Bo (or who ever runs this shop) is just trying to raise the bar for the rates.
Anyway time will tell what the real reason is and how it will play out. Even I'm not happy with the surcharge I'm still considering booking Cheer for an outcall.
Fast Eddie 48
02-26-14, 16:36
Everything you write sounds very legit. But. Assuming you are right why do only girls from Bamboo that provided anal sex "for free" in other oil massage shops (Bo, Cheer, Ploy, Toey / Vodka) do it now for a surcharge? Why aren't there more girls who provide anal sex?
My best guess is that Bo (or who ever runs this shop) is just trying to raise the bar for the rates.
Anyway time will tell what the real reason is and how it will play out. Even I'm not happy with the surcharge I'm still considering booking Cheer for an outcall.To Zauberfree.
I have a good session with a cute girl at Tulip a few week ago this is the first girl that I know don't offer anal at Tulip she is new only been there for 2 week a young girl is rare there but good BBBJ and cim very good GFE.
Fast Eddie 48
AssLover945
02-26-14, 17:04
I hereby boycott bamboo for its attempt to raise the charge in oilies,
The same girls while working in other oilies used to charge 1500, I am not paying 2500 for the same service.
I have options. I repeat "I HAVE OPTIONS"
Call me cheap charlie if you want, be my guest.
I am firm in my resolve not to play into the hands of people who want to raise an already high price.
Paul Kausch
02-26-14, 18:12
I've just read a post (#2326) from the Annies Massage thread about this issue. Someone there e-mailed Aey to ask for her A+ recommendations, and Aey replied that none of the ladies at Annies Massage offer this kind of service.
Anal sex for women is very uncommon in Thailand, much less common than in other countries. It's something some massage ladies learn to do in response to interest from foreign customers.
I'd say that most Thai massage places don't offer anal sex, it's not available there, and most of their women probably never had anal sex.Well, Aey may say this but I can testify that #24 Aor is a-level and really gets into it. She loves DP, a cock in one hole and a big vibrator in the other. I have no knowledge or experiences with her as to whether she feels the same about two dicks. :D
Number 41 also told me there are a-level ladies working there. She said something to me about the young ladies at Annie's who let you do anything to them. She's not one of them.
Aor must have a reputation for good a-level because on a follow-up outcall with her after a busy weekend her ass was really sore. I'm sure I've read posts about other Annie's ladies that mentioned a-level. The mamasan is the person you need to talk to about this. She doesn't answer emails, but you can call and talk to her. She comes across as being unfriendly, but she tries to be helpful.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1537125]I hereby boycott bamboo for its attempt to raise the charge in oilies,
The same girls while working in other oilies used to charge 1500, I am not paying 2500 for the same service.
I have options. I repeat "I HAVE OPTIONS"
Hi AL,
I was at Bamboo, Soi 8, 2 days ago and paid 900 baht for a 2 hours oil massage and 1500B for Cheer. Plus a 300b tip. The session was nothing exceptional, except Cheer is friendly and the time was well spent. No anal involved. The rooms are refurbished than what it was during the Aviva days. I am surprised they asked 2500B from you for the extras. Even when you call them for an outcall, they ask for all inclusive 3000B. I never get hooked to one place. With so many options around, its a buyers market.
Regards,
Z.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1537125]I hereby boycott bamboo for its attempt to raise the charge in oilies,
The same girls while working in other oilies used to charge 1500, I am not paying 2500 for the same service.
I have options. I repeat "I HAVE OPTIONS"
Hi AL,
I was at Bamboo, Soi 8, 2 days ago and paid 900 baht for a 2 hours oil massage and 1500B for Cheer. Plus a 300b tip. The session was nothing exceptional, except Cheer is friendly and the time was well spent. No anal involved. The rooms are refurbished than what it was during the Aviva days. I am surprised they asked 2500B from you for the extras. Even when you call them for an outcall, they ask for all inclusive 3000B. I never get hooked to one place. With so many options around, its a buyers market.
Regards,
Z.If you don't engage in anal, they don't pop you for the extra 500 baht. I spent an hour with Cheer in late Dec and was charged 2500 baht. 1500 plus 500 butt penalty, and 500 for the hour oily fee.
Ploy and Vodka were for sure not anal virgins before they started to work in Bamboo. Both served A+ in Cherry massage without any extra money. BTW, I heard (is this true?) that co-owner of Bamboo is Boo (ex-Mango girl). If this is true then I had a pleasure to visit her back door also without +1000Bath. Of course if girl is nice and work hard then the tip is natural thing.The owner of Bamboo is Bam. Bam used to work at Aviva (Bamboo is in the old Aviva location) and then moved to Mango.
if the extra 500 thb goes to the lady, then this is sure to encourage more ladies to start having anal sex with their guys.
it needs to be a regular surcharge to persuade the ladies, because it's not easy to start having anal sex at first. it takes some practice and experience, before the lady becomes good at it. which means that if you offer a 500thb tip to a lady who has never done anal before, then she'll probably reject it, because it's such a hassle to do anal for the first time ever. but if the lady knows that she'll get an extra 500 thb every time for anal sex with a guy, then she has a much better reason to go through the trouble of having anal sex for the first time and getting better at it with practice.
if you want to have more and better-looking women who are willing to take a good anal drilling from their guys, then this is the way to do it.my guess it that 500 baht will not encourage "more and better-looking women" in the oilies to start taking it up the tradesman's entrance. the better looking women don't work at the pse joints. it is as one poster said, bam's attempt at raising the bar. soi 8 is a tough location. she is already 100 bath more on her oily fee. with the nice rooms, i can see her rational, but add the butt-penalty and all of the sudden you are 600 baht above the other shops. that's 30% over the other shops. now if it really was a better looking gal, then i would have no issue with it, i would gladly pay it, but it is not. it is the same old gals that have been taking it in the pooper for quite a time, especially in the case of bo and cheer.
To Zauberfree.
I have a good session with a cute girl at Tulip a few week ago this is the first girl that I know don't offer anal at Tulip she is new only been there for 2 week a young girl is rare there but good BBBJ and cim very good GFE.
Fast Eddie 48Who was she?
yes, maybe you're right. but what if just a minority of customers takes part in the internet world, no matter here, or another forum or bangkok rough guide or any other forum?
i'm unhappy with the surcharge as any of you but maybe this is just the beginningall regular customers are going to be at least a bit peeved.
my guess it that 500 baht will not encourage "more and better-looking women" in the oilies to start taking it up the tradesman's entrance. the better looking women don't work at the pse joints. it is as one poster said, bam's attempt at raising the bar. soi 8 is a tough location. she is already 100 bath more on her oily fee. with the nice rooms, i can see her rational, but add the butt-penalty and all of the sudden you are 600 baht above the other shops. that's 30% over the other shops. now if it really was a better looking gal, then i would have no issue with it, i would gladly pay it, but it is not. it is the same old gals that have been taking it in the pooper for quite a time, especially in the case of bo and cheer.in porn films, porn stars who have anal sex get paid more money. it's a well accepted practice there, because not every porn star is willing to have anal sex.
it's all about supply and demand. people wouldn't be paying extra money for nothing, if this didn't encourage more and better-looking women to have anal sex with guys. and if it works this way in porn, then it's reasonable to say that it works the same way for other sex-workers too, uncluding massage ladies in thailand.
i've encountered thai ladies before who offered me anal sex in exchange for extra pay. and that extra pay they asked for was 500 bht. this was actually a number of years ago. i'm surprised that sex-prices haven't gone up in thailand, despite the inflation of prices for living expenses.
Paul Kausch
02-27-14, 01:30
In porn films, porn stars who have anal sex get paid more money. It's a well accepted practice there, because not every porn star is willing to have anal sex.
I've encountered Thai ladies before who offered me anal sex in exchange for extra pay. And that extra pay they asked for was 500 BHT. This was actually a number of years ago. I'm surprised that sex-prices haven't gone up in Thailand, despite the inflation of prices for living expenses.Good point about the porn industry, which also pays extra for DPs, gangbangs, etc.
There are escort agencies with ladies who do MMF gigs, e.g. Bangkok Hot. They get paid double. Does that surprise anyone or seem unreasonable?
Some of the escort agencies charge extra for a-level, in fact I believe most do, for example Bangkok Escorts. A few do not, e.g. Bangkok Gold.
I'm ambivalent. I don't like paying the extra charge, but understand that economically it is logical. Some ladies do it but don't like it. Naturally they will want something extra. But what about the ladies you actually like it? Right off the top of my head, three ladies immediately come to mind. If the lady really likes to take it up the ass, should she get more for doing it? Of course it's not what the lady likes and dislikes. It's what the market will support.
I'm surprised that sex-prices haven't gone up in Thailand, despite the inflation of prices for living expenses.Prices at the oilies and soapies have not risen (well Soapies went up 100 baht when a new tax was imposed) , but gogo prices and FL prices have doubled since I moved here in '99. Soapies and oilies were traditionally more expensive than gogos and FLs. BG gals were 500 baht ST and any gal could be had at Thermae for 1k, and many would go for 500 baht as well. Now that is not the case. I remember when Baron's first opened. I think that was 03. The thought of spending 2300 baht for 2 hrs was well, a bit of an expensive thought compared to gogos where every gal would go for 1k and the bf was 500 baht at most. Now oilies seem like a bargain, and there is the added bonus of not really having to worry about getting good service.
There are escort agencies with ladies who do MMF gigs, e.g. Bangkok Hot. They get paid double. Does that surprise anyone or seem unreasonable? It's what the market will support.The entire point of Baron's and then Tulip was the mantra,"all girls do everything" and here is the price. That was the selling point. You went, you paid, and you got everything. There were no levels of service. That is what made them so great. If you chose to work there, you provided three hole service, CIM, rimming, etc. As a punter you did not have to worry about bad attitudes or lack or service.
I have no issue with what Bam want to charge, but put it in the fee. The extra thing is really annoying and really changes the entire model of what a PSE place is all about. The slippery slope started when gals who were not A+ started to be employed at these shops. Performance has been effected.
Paul Kausch
02-27-14, 02:52
The entire point of Baron's and then Tulip was the mantra,"all girls do everything" and here is the price. That was the selling point. You went, you paid, and you got everything. There were no levels of service. That is what made them so great. If you chose to work there, you provided three hole service, CIM, rimming, etc. As a punter you did not have to worry about bad attitudes or lack or service.
I have no issue with what Bam want to charge, but put it in the fee. The extra thing is really annoying and really changes the entire model of what a PSE place is all about. The slippery slope started when gals who were not A+ started to be employed at these shops. Performance has been effected.Goat, generally I agree with you. I have no problem if a venue has no a-level ladies or only a few, and if it wants to charge extra for a-level, that's the owners choice; and I will make my choice. I'll go to Tulips, where I know I can count on a-level, though I did read a very recent post that said their is a non-a-level lady there now; or I'll go someplace that has some ladies who do and some who don't, but there is one price for everyone. I may pick an a-level lady. I may pick a lady who is not a-level. That is my prerogative. I may choose to give a bigger tip if the lady gave great service, but that's also my prerogative. At the end of the day I'm just one customer who has no singular influence on the market. As others members have pointed out, it will be interesting to see if SW, Mango and Cherry, to name a few venues, adopt a surcharge for a-level. Unless there is an MP cartel, if too many do, at least one establishment will buck the trend, get a lot of business and the trend will reverse.
Eric Swiss
02-27-14, 09:49
This is a report on a new girls at Addict. Her name is Numwan. I have never seen her before. She says she has only been working one week, and there is enough freshness in her manner that it is entirely believable.
I picked her out of a line-up of a dozen girls around 1pm. There were a couple of Asian dudes sitting on the sofa before I walked in, but they complained there was nobody to their liking, so they just walked out. All the while, I was sitting on the side next to the mamasan and Numwan was making eye contact with me and smiling.
She is 20 years old , about 1m63 tall, and slim (45 kilos). She is from Isaan, and her skin color is similar to what a white woman would have at Saint Tropez. Her body is gorgeous, and her face is very pretty. She has small-ish tits, maybe between A and B cup. Between her slim, body and her face, she is way above 90% of the other oily massage girls in terms of looks. Quite a find.
I paid THB 2,100 for a one-hour lotion massage. Inside the room she was very inexperienced. It has its charm, but definitely not PSE. Maybe it will come once she has more experience, if she stays in this business. Shower OK, then back rub. She did this weirdly erotic thing whereby she was massaging my skull with her hands while massaging my back with her pussy and buttocks. Both ends were moving rhythmically at the same time!
Then she flipped me, I got a hand job, sort of a BBBJ but not fully, then a more professional CBJ. Then she climbed on top of me for a cowgirl, I flipped her around for a missionary, and finally doggy style. Watching her flawless ass and slim waist, markers of youth and nubility, made me come. She was very friendly afterwards, laying down on the bed by my side.
After the second shower, we walked down together and she held my hand all along, as if she wanted to be friends, one thing that the other masseuses do not do.
Anyway, if you want a looker fresh off the boat this is for you, if you want a pornstar this is not. Would I repeat? Probably not for a while, as there is a lot of choice at Addict, and generally the other girls know how to behave in the sack better than this one. But I'm glad I banged her at least once just for her looks.
Surely the solution is simply for all anal connoisseurs to avoid Bamboo and go to the other massage shops that don't have the anal surcharge. When they realise they've lost custom they'll drop it.
Paul Kausch
02-27-14, 11:04
Surely the solution is simply for all anal connoisseurs to avoid Bamboo and go to the other massage shops that don't have the anal surcharge. When they realise they've lost custom they'll drop it.I think that is what some of the guys are doing. As for all the posts on this topic, we wouldn't want to pass up an opportunity to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan now would we?
The slippery slope started when gals who were not A+ started to be employed at these shops. Performance has been effected.There is a good reason why these shops started employing women, who weren't A+. Anal sex for women is more of a taboo in Thailand than in many other countries. It's hard to find Thai women who are willing to start having anal sex with guys. These shops probably couldn't find enough A+ ladies to service all of their customers.
But the good thing about mixing A+ and non-A+ ladies in the same shop is that ladies tend to learn from each other. Many non-A+ ladies eventualy become A+, when they stay in a mixed shop like this. And of course it helps a lot to persuade the non-A+ ladies, if the A+ ladies get paid more money. Because it's natural for people to get jealous about the money and try to get the same pay as others are getting.
There is a good reason why these shops started employing women, who weren't A+. Anal sex for women is more of a taboo in Thailand than in many other countries. It's hard to find Thai women who are willing to start having anal sex with guys. These shops probably couldn't find enough A+ ladies to service all of their customers.
But the good thing about mixing A+ and non-A+ ladies in the same shop is that ladies tend to learn from each other. Many non-A+ ladies eventualy become A+, when they stay in a mixed shop like this. And of course it helps a lot to persuade the non-A+ ladies, if the A+ ladies get paid more money. Because it's natural for people to get jealous about the money and try to get the same pay as others are getting.Anal sex for women is not really a taboo in Thailand. Most Thai women will do what they have to to keep their man happy, and there's no doubt Thai men enjoy anal sex as much as the rest of us. It may not be as widespread as in Brazil but I'd hardly call it a taboo.
Franciscass
02-27-14, 14:31
I think that is what some of the guys are doing. As for all the posts on this topic, we wouldn't want to pass up an opportunity to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan now would we?What a business charges is their prerogative. That's how the market works. That said forums such as ISG are so popular because they educate and provide fact based knowledge to enable informed choices, avoid rip offs, false advertising and overpriced service. Simple fact, Bamboo is mostly staffed by hardcore older providers who neither before nor now care which orifice is being used while they are contemplating whether to have rice or noodles for supper. IMHO to charge 500 more for anal while accepting it as their right to do so falls under the category of rip off. To call this "pissing and moaning' is being disingenuous.
Paul Kausch
02-27-14, 16:36
What a business charges is their prerogative. That's how the market works. That said forums such as ISG are so popular because they educate and provide fact based knowledge to enable informed choices, avoid rip offs, false advertising and overpriced service. Simple fact, Bamboo is mostly staffed by hardcore older providers who neither before nor now care which orifice is being used while they are contemplating whether to have rice or noodles for supper. IMHO to charge 500 more for anal while accepting it as their right to do so falls under the category of rip off. To call this "pissing and moaning' is being disingenuous.My fault. Should have used a smiley to make it clear I was being facetious. Read my other posts on this topic and you'll see I made the same point you made about this being the venue's prerogative, but I wouldn't be one of their customers because this policy.
Fast Eddie 48
02-27-14, 21:05
Who was she?To Goatscrot.
I forgot her name she is very young 22 yr old with a pony tail rare for Tulip I went back week later she is no there so I went to Cherry and got Angie, I have got some hot pretty girl at massage place on this trip more hot girls avalible during the shut down.
Fast Eddie 48
Franciscass
02-28-14, 01:18
My fault. Should have used a smiley to make it clear I was being facetious. Read my other posts on this topic and you'll see I made the same point you made about this being the venue's prerogative, but I wouldn't be one of their customers because this policy.Got it. Incidentally I enjoy reading your insightful posts on the politics here.
To Goatscrot.
I forgot her name she is very young 22 yr old with a pony tail rare for Tulip I went back week later she is no there so I went to Cherry and got Angie, I have got some hot pretty girl at massage place on this trip more hot girls avalible during the shut down.
Fast Eddie 48Sounds like you had a great trip! I am finding that the oilies are slow and most girls are available on most days. A good thing.
Anal sex for women is not really a taboo in Thailand. Most Thai women will do what they have to to keep their man happy, and there's no doubt Thai men enjoy anal sex as much as the rest of us. It may not be as widespread as in Brazil but I'd hardly call it a taboo.I've read a study about HIV in Thailand and various risk factors, including anal sex. And the researchers found that only 1% of female sex-workers had anal sex with their clients in a North-East region of Thailand, also known as Issan. Here is a PDF file of it:
http://www.aidsdatahub.org/dmdocuments/sex_work_hiv_thailand.pdf
If only 1% of female Thai sex workers had anal sex, then this means that anal sex was probably even less common among non-sex workers.
When you compare this 1% among Thai female sex workers to 15% of women in USA among general population having anal sex, then anal sex for Thai women sure looks like a taboo to me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/27/women-having-more-types-of-sex-survey_n_4349406.html
This taboo is probably cultural, which includes both heterosexual men and women. Such low prevalence of anal sex among heterosexual in Thailand is probably due to both men not wanting it and women not willing to do it.
Sure, Tulip, Mango are a sure thing for PSE with rimming, anal etc, but you usually get seasoned pros, who have been doing this day in day out for years, months or weeks.
(I know there are exceptions, who even after 2 months on the job remain delightfully fresh).
What I find much more exciting is trawling seemingly legit MPs, off the beaten track, for women, whom I personally feel attracted to.
Out of 6 in the past 5 weeks, only one did not hop into bed with me in my hotel room, after the initial foot massage, followed by an oil massage in private at the shop.
Since the legit shops don't allow it, these ladies don't normally have sex with customers, they do mostly give HJs.
Not having boyfriends because of their job, they frequently go without sex for months! And when they do have sex with someone who teats them as a person and not as a hoe, they let you feel it!
Much more gratifying, than the meat markets at Tulip etc.
Of those 5 which 'gave in', be it without much persuasion. 4 (four) made their rear entrance available on our second date with just a little coaxing and the last one, who is due in half an hour has already agreed beforehand! That is 4 out of 5 doing anal sex.
Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.
Another tidbit, referred to only obliquely on ISG:
Condoms must be becoming highly uncool in BKK.
Aside from the one above, who scorned me and therefore does not count in this context, all 5 'legit' MP ladies plus 3 'stars' from Tulip, Mango and Cherry, took some convincing and only then, grudgingly, would use condoms.
That is 8 out of 8 'ladies' I fucked in the past 5 weeks (2 of them multiple times) who wanted to go BB by default!
Maybe it's out of reverence for my age!
And when they do have sex with someone who teats them as a person and not as a hoe, they let you feel it!Agree 100%
Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.It's your personal word against a research study pulished in a respected health journal, which people can check out for themselves at the link I've provided.
Bangkok isn't exactly Isaan. In Isaan, female sex workers work almost exclusively with Thai men. While in Bangkok, millions of foreign tourists come every year from other countries.
It's possible that anal sex is more common among female sex workers in Bangkok than in Isaan. But I highly doubt that it's as common as you say. Because if what you say is true, then Bankgok massage parlours wouldn't be having so much trouble with recruiting A+ women to work for them.
Franciscass
03-01-14, 01:58
Of those 5 which 'gave in', be it without much persuasion. 4 (four) made their rear entrance available on our second date with just a little coaxing and the last one, who is due in half an hour has already agreed beforehand! That is 4 out of 5 doing anal sex.
Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.
Another tidbit, referred to only obliquely on ISG:
Condoms must be becoming highly uncool in BKK.
Aside from the one above, who scorned me and therefore does not count in this context, all 5 'legit' MP ladies plus 3 'stars' from Tulip, Mango and Cherry, took some convincing and only then, grudgingly, would use Condoms.
That is 8 out of 8 'ladies' I fucked in the past 5 weeks (2 of them multiple times) who wanted to go BB by default!
Maybe it's out of reverence for my age!Regular HJ masseuses all doing anal and all insisting on not using a condom! As a long time resident I can tell you unequivocally your experience is not the norm and I would be more than surprised to find another member with a similar story. I sense this is a wind up to get some attention.
Paul Kausch
03-01-14, 02:52
It's your personal word against a research study pulished in a respected health journal, which people can check out for themselves at the link I've provided.
Bangkok isn't exactly Isaan. In Isaan, female sex workers work almost exclusively with Thai men. While in Bangkok, millions of foreign tourists come every year from other countries.
It's possible that anal sex is more common among female sex workers in Bangkok than in Isaan. But I highly doubt that it's as common as you say. Because if what you say is true, then Bankgok massage parlours wouldn't be having so much trouble with recruiting A+ women to work for them.I skimmed the article. First, it is not a published article in a refereed health journal. It is a report released by an NGO. The report may be based on rigorous methods, but that can not be ascertained as they do not provide a detailed description of their methodology. Also much of the data they site, condom use and anal sex, is based on self-reports, which are generally unreliable, especially when people are asked about such sensitive topics as anal sex and safe sex practices. I would expect these behaviors are significantly under reported by the people they surveyed.
I'm not sure what you mean by it being Daddy San's personal word. Unless you think he was making it up, what he described were his actual experiences.
Daddy San wrote about the success he has with non-pros working in regular massage parlors. I'm not that surprised many of the women willing to have sex with him are also willing to try anal sex with him during a subsequent session. First, these women apparently liked the first experience and were willing to repeat it. Though these women are not sex workers they are drawn to a profession that is based on human touch. Then he manages to ferret out the women interested in having sex with him. This suggests to me these are women drawn to sensual experiences who are adventurous by nature. A curiosity about anal sexual and willingness to try it does not surprise me. I think a representative cross section of young women who are not sex workers or working in a regular massage business would yield a much smaller percentage of women willing to try anal sex.
As for the difficulty MPs have recruiting a-level women, having anal sex once or even once every few days is very different from having it several times a day every day. Read my reports from a couple of months ago on Annie's #24 (Aor). On the first outcall she clearly enjoyed anal sex a lot; however, on my second outcall with her it was very painful for her after having spent the entire weekend having constant back to back sessions with men performing anal sex on her.
Some women genuinely enjoy anal sex. As the sex workers will say, it depends on how the woman is wired.
As for bare back sex, based on more limited experiences with gogo girls and FLs, and more extensive experience with MP girls and escorts, my experience is it is almost impossible to get an escort to go BB. Among the other groups of woman more than half of the time I have to stop the action and ask for a condom, otherwise I believe I could have proceeded without one. In my mind this makes it very obvious riding BB is very risky. Several months ago I exchanged some PMs with a nice fellow who I understood was Asian, and may have been Thai, living in Bangkok. He told me he had had girl friends who worked in the oilie MPs and was friends with many of the girls. He claimed the majority of them seldom had sex with a condom and very few always used a condom. He went on to claim these women have a fatalistic attitude about contracting an STD, which most of them do from time to time. Of course I cannot verify the validity of his statements, but he seemed like a logical and credible person.
Thank you Paul, it is good to see that at least some people are capable of understanding what is being written and then articulate a meaningful comment.
I was indeed reporting a purely personal experience and not implying its universal validity or contesting statistics.
As to the availability of anal sex, yes, I also tend to believe that one is less likely to find it in Isaan than in Bangkok, but then look at the pics by HotShaneHot (eg. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2859-Isaan-Region-(including-Udon-Thani-KK-Khorat)&p=1537685&viewfull=1#post1537685 and many others).
Are his anal mates all 'outliers' in the statistical sense, like mine?
As far as the prevalent condomophobia goes, it is good to remember 2 things.
1. The farther you go from what we like to think is the highly developed 'Western Civilisation', the less native use of condoms and contraception you'll find.
2. People who use condoms do so in an attempt to avoid HIV and other nasties and certainly not because they LIKE it.
The overwhelming majority of sex workers are not anal virgins. Do you really think it's possible to sleep with hundreds of men without one "accidentally" slipping it in the wrong hole? And the more dick they get up them the more broad-minded they become. That doesn't mean they all do it regularly but the idea of them being anal virgins is a bit fanciful.
Franciscass
03-01-14, 07:54
I'm not sure what you mean by it being Daddy San's personal word. Unless you think he was making it up, what he described were his actual experiences.It is everybody's right to be believed except when what is being said flies in the face of reality. Sure some providers do anal some go bareback both here and in Essan (paradoxically you're less likely to find anal in Essan but more likely to find bareback) , but 8 for 8. I visit oilies at least twice a week and have done so now for going on 10 years and excepting those shops that specialize in anal I. E. Tulip et al it is far from the norm. But let's accept that he got lucky and found 5 regular masseuses willing to take it up the ass I cannot buy 'they took some convincing and only then grudgingly would use condoms' scenario. At the end of the day who gives a rat's ass whether it happened or not it's simply for me not credible.
Paul Kausch
03-01-14, 08:24
The overwhelming majority of sex workers are not anal virgins. Do you really think it's possible to sleep with hundreds of men without one "accidentally" slipping it in the wrong hole? And the more dick they get up them the more broad-minded they become. That doesn't mean they all do it regularly but the idea of them being anal virgins is a bit fanciful.Also, a woman new the business spends all day with other ladies, some of whom are anal veterans. Naturally the ladies talk. Natural the uninitiated become curious. They hear some ladies describing how they enjoy it, which will motivate them to eventually try it. There are ladies in MPs who do not advertise they are a-level, but with at least some customers offer it. When a woman gets comfortable having sex with me and I have her aroused enough it is surprisingly easy to get her to try it. Then again in spite of what she says, whose to say it really was her first time? ;)
The overwhelming majority of sex workers are not anal virgins. Do you really think it's possible to sleep with hundreds of men without one "accidentally" slipping it in the wrong hole? And the more dick they get up them the more broad-minded they become. That doesn't mean they all do it regularly but the idea of them being anal virgins is a bit fanciful.Ha Ha. I suppose you have done a survey. LOL Don't forget all the Thai oriented Soapy shops. I believe a high percentage have never done it. I certainly know many girls that I believe are far to conservative to try that. It goes against Thai culture.
Wolvenvacht
03-01-14, 09:49
Daddy San wrote about the success he has with non-pros working in regular massage parlors. I'm not that surprised many of the women willing to have sex with him are also willing to try anal sex with him during a subsequent session. First, these women apparently liked the first experience and were willing to repeat it. Though these women are not sex workers they are drawn to a profession that is based on human touch. Then he manages to ferret out the women interested in having sex with him. This suggests to me these are women drawn to sensual experiences who are adventurous by nature. A curiosity about anal sexual and willingness to try it does not surprise me. I think a representative cross section of young women who are not sex workers or working in a regular massage business would yield a much smaller percentage of women willing to try anal sex.I think Paul hit the nail right on the head. Sex workers are not your "average" woman and I think it is safe to assume that even among sex workers there are lots of sub-categories where the prevalence of willingness to engage in anal sex is much different from the "average".
I do not know of any strictly controlled statistical study of these sexual practices and can only offer my own experience. For good understanding, I have no interest in engaging in anal sex, so I have never asked for it from any woman, pro or non-pro. On the other hand, in my 30 years of mongering in Europe (mainly Belgium and Germany) and about 5 years in SEA, it has been offered to me only once by a woman in a German Partytreff (I politely declined and she never offered it again) and never in SEA. As I am also an avid visitor of swinger clubs and the public in a swinger club must surely rate among the most sexually liberated and least inhibited, I am still surprised to note that anal sex is very very rare (and I mean really very very very rare) in swinger clubs. I have actually seen it done once in a club in Austria (DP: anal and vaginal) and a few months ago in a swinger club in Belgium and elderly Pinay offered her ass to me (again I declined but she accepted me fucking her doggie style). During that same evening I discretely watched her and she did not get any anal sex from anyone.
This all leads me to believe that anal sex is very minor in practice, but is largely over-reported by those few who engage in it. For sure it may interest a lot of people (I confess it holds a certain fascination, even though I would not engage in it) but that is still quite something else from saying and proving that it is widely practiced.
Again I say, these are *my* findings only, it is no better than anyone else's opinion and even though it is based upon 30 years of experience "in the field", it remains anecdotal.
Western787
03-01-14, 10:45
I Among the other groups of woman more than half of the time I have to stop the action and ask for a condom, otherwise I believe I could have proceeded without one.And when they do mention it, it often seems to be right before the event and in the form of a question......."condom"? (like you have a choice or something) Nor do they ever seem to carry one.
Western787
03-01-14, 11:07
I Among the other groups of woman more than half of the time I have to stop the action and ask for a condom, otherwise I believe I could have proceeded without one.And when they do mention it, it often seems to be right before the event and in the form of a question."condom"? (like you have a choice or something) Nor do they seem to ever carry one.
I skimmed the article. First, it is not a published article in a refereed health journal. It is a report released by an NGO. The report may be based on rigorous methods, but that can not be ascertained as they do not provide a detailed description of their methodology. Also much of the data they site, condom use and anal sex, is based on self-reports, which are generally unreliable, especially when people are asked about such sensitive topics as anal sex and safe sex practices. I would expect these behaviors are significantly under reported by the people they surveyed.I'd say that you didn't scan it well enough. At the bottom of page 6, it says that 1% of sex workers had anal sex with their clients, and it gives reference #19, which is at the end of the article. Reference #19 you can find on page 10 of the article and it's cited as follows:
Ungchusak, K, et al, Determinants of HIV Infection among Female Commercial Sex Workers in Northeastern Thailand: Results from a Longitudinal Study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 1996. 12: p. 500&8208; 507.
This reference comes from a medical journal published by medical professionals.
If you say that Thai sex-workers try to hide their anal sex even when health professionals ask them about it, then this clearly means that there is a taboo against such sex Thailand. Which was my point right from the start. It seems that you support my view, even while you are trying to discredit credible information.
I'd say that you didn't scan it well enough. At the bottom of page 6, it says that 1% of sex workers had anal sex with their clients, and it gives reference #19, which is at the end of the article. Reference #19 you can find on page 10 of the article and it's cited as follows:
Ungchusak, K, et al, Determinants of HIV Infection among Female Commercial Sex Workers in Northeastern Thailand: Results from a Longitudinal Study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr. 1996. 12: p. 500&8208; 507.
This reference comes from a medical journal published by medical professionals.
If you say that Thai sex-workers try to hide their anal sex even when health professionals ask them about it, then this clearly means that there is a taboo against such sex Thailand. Which was my point right from the start. It seems that you support my view, even while you are trying to discredit credible information.The study is almost 20 years old and is about women working in wood shack brothels with limited sanitation facilities. I wouldn't want anal sex in that kind of place. And one study doesn't prove much. Probably each of us on this forum has slept with more Thai women than the number in that study, so our anecdotal evidence is no less valuable. You're completely delusional if you believe Thai sex workers are sexually conservative little princesses who have never let a man anywhere near their arses. I remember once I really did accidentally probe the arse of an 18 year old Pattaya girl. Her only reaction was to ask me to lube up with saliva. Some of you clearly let the girls take you for a ride. They're probably acting the part of the innocent little anal virgin to you and then letting some other guy shaft them up the arse.
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Paul Kausch
03-01-14, 18:38
I'd say that you didn't scan it well enough.I have a Ph. D. In multivariate statistics and applied mathematics. While in academics I served on dozens of grant review committees, reviewing over a thousand grant proposals in a variety of scientific disciplines. I've written successful grant proposals, some with medical doctors to conduct medical research. I have been a reviewer for scientific journals. I have published scientific articles in refereed journals. I scanned the article thoroughly enough to find all the information I needed to draw my conclusions. You are looking at how many women they report having anal or unprotected sex. That is meaningless in and of itself. I am looking for the method of data collection. That is what is important. Bottom line, the conclusions are based on self-report data. Considering the population and the variables being examined it has to be taken with a grain of salt. This was a public relations report designed to help this NGO secure future funding. I didn't need to dig up any of the articles in the reference section. That would have only further confirmed my conclusions. Considering this is just a sex forum for mongers, I didn't bother. I'm not putting down the report or criticizing the organization that published it. I'm just pointing out some things that are obvious to me.
Of course anal sex is taboo. Isn't that part of the appeal? Doesn't a nice tight pussy feel better than an asshole? In anal sex once you've pushed past the sphincter you're in a big cavity. Think about why doing it turns guys on. Same for women. They're doing something kinky and naughty, which is also a turn on for them; plus for many women it is very pleasurable, especially when combined with vaginal and / or clitoral stimulation. Some women really do get into a DP, whether with two guys or one guy with a nice big vibrator. A non-sex worker in Bangkok who is interested in having casual sex with a farang also has a rather liberal attitude about sex, and probably really likes to fuck. Which is true of most women everywhere who haven't been fucked up by sexually repressive religions. While still somewhat taboo, anal sex is a pretty common part of the sexual dialogue. Many non-sex worker knows a lot about it and may have like-minded friends who have tried it. As for a young girl in a Bangkok MP, need I say anything? I would not put the poor girls working in the filthy brothels catering to lower class Thai men in the countryside in the voluntary sex worker category. They're sex slaves. I've never set foot in one of these places. I've read enough descriptions to detest the people who run them and feel much pity for the girls forced to work in them. Guys pay next to nothing to climb on top of a young girl and thrust their cock in and out of the girl's pussy until they come. It's over in a few minutes and then the next guy climbs on top of her. It's nothing like what goes on in an MP on Soi 24 or a soapy on Ratchada for that matter.
How about "educating" those in the Phils for a while and abstain from here till your next visit?
Western787
03-01-14, 20:57
The You're completely delusional if you believe Thai sex workers are sexually conservative little princesses who have never let a man anywhere near their arses.That is a fair statement, and this even includes young university hottie type part-timers, yup its being offered at times, even BB (which while crazy is true) My guess is these girls are curious about western things and experiment with their Thai boyfriends and apparently some like it and put it on their menu.
Western787
03-01-14, 21:10
this clearly means that there is a taboo against such sex Thailand.Its innate to the species and its survival that in absolute terms young women (lets say 18 to 23 year old for this discussion) in fact have very high sex drives irregardless of (often pop culture hype) about it peaking 10 to 15 years later, and while having no procreation purpose apparently either find it kinky and/or sufficiently acceptable in some cases to use it as a draw to get repeat Farang business, with the prospect of future cash flows IMHO acting as a type of turnon for some. Its a buyers market especially for guys in Bangkok a lot of their time or living here, and these girls know it.
Paul Kausch
03-01-14, 23:36
Human are not the only primates who engage in anal sex, orgies and other kinky shit. Primatologists observe this behavior in the wild, especially among the Bonobo chimps. Males chimps will even gang bang willing (eager) female chimps. Male chimps in captivity get into chimp porn, have their personal favorite female chimp porn stars, and prefer watching porn to bananas as a reward for performing various tasks. I'm not surprised young, liberated, non-pros in Bangkok are interested in trying anal. And some no doubt discover they like it.
Paul Kausch
03-02-14, 01:41
I find anal sex to be quite a curiosity. As I mentioned in an earlier report, in general I think vaginal sex feels better than anal sex. At least when it is being performed on a woman with a tight young pussy, something these days I'm highly biased towards. Sometimes I have no interest in doing anal, even if the woman offers it. At least that is the case when the offer is by the lady nonchalantly asking if I want it. It's an entirely different matter when the lady makes it clear she really wants it. This could happen when I'm in the mood and say something polite like, "Hey honey, do you mind if I ream your ass?" If the lady replies with something sweet and demur like, "Hell yes big guy, give it to me deep and hard," then I immediately feel my cock get harder in anticipate. :D
More often in the course of foreplay I engage in a little ass play with my fingers and tongue, and an appropriate toy if one is handy. If the lady gets into it, as in my experience many will, I will see how far I can take it. I've had ladies who later tell me they were anal virgins say at the time they couldn't figure out exactly what I was doing. All they knew was it was different and felt good. Of course the anal connoisseurs know exactly what is going on and encourage me to escalate the play. It is these ladies who really make my blood rush.
As for the anal virgins, I like to make a remark like, "Hmm, you like that don't you." Usually, the reply will be a yes interjected between pants and moans. Then I suggest we take it to the next level. I'll assure her I won't push her farther than she's prepared to go. I don't think I've ever had a lady who I've gotten that far with say no. Then a little doggy with a finger up her ass is in order; more than one if she gets into it. If and when she's willing to take two or three fingers, without asking I'll just initiate anal penetration and tell her to start playing with her clit. If the lady experiences discomfort I stop immediately. Sometimes I'll let the lady relax and then try it again, often with success. I think at that point the lady trusts me and relaxes. Some ladies will even ask me to try again. The key is don't force it. Let it happen naturally. Some ladies may later tell me they are glad they tried it but it was not one of their peak sexual experiences. Others clearly really get into it and have one or more really intense orgasms before we're done. Often they'll tell me these feel different than what had been a typical orgasm for them. These ladies, if I see them a few more times, make it clear they want it again. :)
Twenty years ago I didn't run into many women who were receptive to any of this. Over time I've discovered more and more non-pros have or are interested in trying anal. In Bangkok I only do pros and semi-pros; but I've found semi-pros who like it and had at least a few pros who do not list anal on their menu offer it or have no objection when I take it; and then they clearly enjoy it. I think there are some sex workers who do not enjoy anal. I think there are some who do not particularly enjoy sex. I think most sex workers enjoy getting fucked and most enjoy at least an occasional fuck in the ass. In this respect they are like the non-pros, who don't like it on a daily basis but like it with some regularity.
I'm also curious why some women enjoy it so much. I understand it has to do with all the nerve ending around the anus; but what shocks me is there are women who achieve an orgasm just from anal. If you scour the porn videos you can even find women who squirt from anal with no other sexual stimulation. I can only explain this by concluding some women must have one hell of a powerful imagination.
While for me a prostate massage with a blow job or while fucking another woman produces a more intense orgasm, I don't enjoy having the probe penetrate my ass. I only enjoy it after the tip is in and the lady is rubbing my prostate; and then I need to have my dick in a mouth or a pussy or an ass before I really start to enjoy it. For this reason I prefer a prostate massage during a threesome.
There is no doubt some women really enjoy the challenge of taking something really big up their ass; and once it's in they really, really get into it. I've met at least of few of these ladies in Bangkok. There are more a-level ladies out there than we may realize.
Of those 5 which 'gave in', be it without much persuasion. 4 (four) made their rear entrance available on our second date with just a little coaxing and the last one, who is due in half an hour has already agreed beforehand! That is 4 out of 5 doing anal sex.
Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.
Condoms must be becoming highly uncool in BKK.
Aside from the one above, who scorned me and therefore does not count in this context, all 5 'legit' MP ladies plus 3 'stars' from Tulip, Mango and Cherry, took some convincing and only then, grudgingly, would use Condoms.
That is 8 out of 8 'ladies' I fucked in the past 5 weeks (2 of them multiple times) who wanted to go BB by default!I think your statistics are a little unrepresentative. It is well known that Thai ladies of weak education (and even some educated but not smart ones) are often not requiring condoms in a dating type situation despite the risks. I find very few hookers are offering me bareback over many years, so they don't require any persuasion to use condoms at all. There is more risk catching something from non-hookers who fuck around than from hookers who are careful.
I don't think your anal willing girls is a representative sample either. You have to consider what types of girl are in this situation (and possibility of fluke). Clearly more adventurous types. I have known several Thais girls in a girlfriend type situation that are definitely not even considering anal even slightly. They are not sex bomb types either. For girls that are sexually adventurous, I find many girls will not offer anal because of size and duration of the typical sex. Others just believe its dirty. One girl I met thinks licking balls is dirty.
One other thing to consider. How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? Right, not many.
Western787
03-03-14, 00:18
Sure, Tulip, Mango are a sure thing for PSE with rimming, anal etc, but you usually get seasoned pros, who have been doing this day in day out for years, months or weeks.
(I know there are exceptions, who even after 2 months on the job remain delightfully fresh).
What I find much more exciting is trawling seemingly legit MPs, off the beaten track, for women, whom I personally feel attracted to.
Out of 6 in the past 5 weeks, only one did not hop into bed with me in my hotel room, after the initial foot massage, followed by an oil massage in private at the shop.
Since the legit shops don't allow it, these ladies don't normally have sex with customers, they do mostly give HJs.
Not having boyfriends because of their job, they frequently go without sex for months! And when they do have sex with someone who treats them as a person and not as a hoe, they let you feel it!
Much more gratifying, than the meat markets at Tulip etc.
Of those 5 which 'gave in', be it without much persuasion. 4 (four) made their rear entrance available on our second date with just a little coaxing and the last one, who is due in half an hour has already agreed beforehand! That is 4 out of 5 doing anal sex.
Now either there is something wrong with the anal sex statistics you have been quoting, or I must have had 5 'outliers' in a row.
Another tidbit, referred to only obliquely on ISG:
Condoms must be becoming highly uncool in BKK.
Aside from the one above, who scorned me and therefore does not count in this context, all 5 'legit' MP ladies plus 3 'stars' from Tulip, Mango and Cherry, took some convincing and only then, grudgingly, would use Condoms.
That is 8 out of 8 'ladies' I fucked in the past 5 weeks (2 of them multiple times) who wanted to go BB by default!
Maybe it's out of reverence for my age!Excellent post with some good insights and creative ideas. In some sense your comments are within the realm of the more general semi pro market, one of the things that makes the Bangkok market so interesting, and this includes may part-timers including college girls and all sort of other types that just don't do offer paid FS everyday, but one that quick-visit typical sex tourists have less access to.
The numbers in any case are definitely far higher than 1%. As to another poster claiming " How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? "? Last I checked women don't have dicks to shove in, and its been this way for millions of years. So I am not sure what the point is. While there is no procreative purpose per se, while actually procreating or "practicing" the dick was around the same female body zones for eons, so there is arguably some history and track record in an evolutionary context for females getting a dick shoved in once in a while at least..
As for lack of condom use could be: 1. HIV perceived as being less fatal, probably not smart but that is the perception 2. an ongoing buyer's market.
As you said "and when they do have sex with someone who treats them as a person and not as a hoe, they let you feel it" In all situations that is always a net plus, but obviously more useful away from meat grinder venues.
Paul Kausch
03-03-14, 00:47
One other thing to consider. How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? Right, not many.
The numbers in any case are definitely far higher than 1%. As to another poster claiming " How many of you guys would be willing to try being fucked in the ass? "? Last I checked women don't have dicks to shove in, and its been this way for millions of years. So I am not sure what the point is. While there is no procreative purpose per se, while actually procreating or "practicing" the dick was around the same female body zones for eons, so there is arguably some history and track record in an evolutionary context for females getting a dick shoved in once in a while at least.Anal sex has been practiced for a very long time in every culture. I bet it has been around for as long as ours species has been on the planet and was practiced by our specie's ancestors. As I mention in a previous post, other primate species perform anal sex. Some female chimps get really angry when a male chimp tries to stick it in her ass. Other females chimps act as though they like it. I doubt if very many ISG members like getting fucked in the ass, but ask that question on a forum for guys who prefer a katoey and you'll get a different response. Though a minority, some heterosexual men get into having a girl use a strap-on on them. They like the stimulation of the prostate. I've always wondered if these guys are really homosexuals. A guy I knew who taught sex courses at the university I once taught at claimed at least some were not. His statement no doubt was based on self report data, of which I am rather suspicious. ;)
Ok, after lots of off topics, non topics and chit chat let's get back to P4P with TG.
I probably will be back in Bangkok for a short stay at the end of this month. I'm looking for an overnight outcall with a girl from either Mango Massage or Cherry Massage. A girl who is isn't shy at all in bed, does have a fun attitude and likes to go out for a little bit of partying. Does someone have a recommendation for this kind of girl?
Any recommendation based upon own experience is appreciated
Regular HJ masseuses all doing anal and all insisting on not using a condom! As a long time resident I can tell you unequivocally your experience is not the norm and I would be more than surprised to find another member with a similar story. I sense this is a wind up to get some attention.I can second Daddy San. I regularly go off the beaten track for fresh anal girls. In the past month I've fucked 10 girls who worked in regular massage shops or were friends of girls who worked in regular massage shops. Ages 18-32 and from all parts of Thailand. Only one even mentioned a condom and eight of them took it up the ass. As the saying goes,"Closed mouths don't get fed". I ask for anal and I get it. The onus of condom usage falls on both parties, if I wouldn't have had my own condoms and insisted on using them then there would have been a lot of bareback buttfucking going on.
I find anal sex to be quite a curiosity. There are more a-level ladies out there than we may realize.Well put and all absolutely true. You reminded me of wonderful Som, that in the bedroom and not even undressed yet, said quietly "you can fuck me what you want. You can fuck my mouth, my pussy, and my ass". I'm not sure if she knew what a blood rush that can cause to a men. I still whish I could have more of that.
Though a minority, some heterosexual men get into having a girl use a strap-on on them. They like the stimulation of the prostate. I've always wondered if these guys are really homosexuals. A guy I knew who taught sex courses at the university I once taught at claimed at least some were not.It used to be a regular practice at the Eden Club (and I haven't been for 5 years now) that the girls would offer to fuck you with a strap-on. I did let them try once but stopped pretty quick because it hurt. And many guys enjoy a prostate massage massage with a finger in the ass.
I really fail to see why enjoying a particular sexual stimulation should label you homosexual. To my mind there is a universe of difference between a guy and a girl having fun together, using whatever toys and skills they have to have fun, and two guys having sex. To think otherwise relegates sex just to a mechanical thing, which most of us know it's not. I guess the most mechanical situation would be having a blowjob through a glory hole. I guess I could do it, but if I then found out the mouth was male I would be pretty sick!
Paul Kausch
03-03-14, 23:47
It used to be a regular practice at the Eden Club (and I haven't been for 5 years now) that the girls would offer to fuck you with a strap-on. I did let them try once but stopped pretty quick because it hurt. And many guys enjoy a prostate massage massage with a finger in the ass.
I really fail to see why enjoying a particular sexual stimulation should label you homosexual. To my mind there is a universe of difference between a guy and a girl having fun together, using whatever toys and skills they have to have fun, and two guys having sex. To think otherwise relegates sex just to a mechanical thing, which most of us know it's not. I guess the most mechanical situation would be having a blowjob through a glory hole. I guess I could do it, but if I then found out the mouth was male I would be pretty sick!I believe I posted some time ago about an ex-girlfriend who said as she let me fuck her ass I should let her do the same to me with a strap-on. Before doing the deed we watched a video she rented about a woman performing anal on her husband with a strap-on. I consented and tried it for a few minutes. I found it very unpleasant.
In my case I think my personal issue with the sexual orientation of guys who like to get butt fucked is seated in homophobia. Consciously, I am tolerant and have know gay men whom I considered my friends. At a less conscious level I admit to having deep seated prejudices. I am a product of the time and place I was raised. One of my fantasies is to participate in a gang bang during which I perform double penetration on a girl with another guy. Oral with anal or vaginal turns me on. The thought of sliding my dick in and out of pussy or ass while another guy's dick is sliding in and out of the other orifice is something I can't imagine doing. I may take some of my hangups to the grave.
Spent two weeks in Huai Khwang area. Went to Nataree 6 times and Alaina twice. The pursuit of young and fresh is expensive. I have to say that in all
The visits to Nataree I was blown out twice by my luck in finding a girl both cute and open to sexual exploration of the most basic kind. The rest of the
Times were quite ordinary, with perfunctory service, rushed and hardly adequate. Many people have written about this place, including me, and we all
Seem to agree, but here is an updated list of faults:
It's 2, 600 to geez. 10, 000 be for `virgins`.
The place is a stinking hole- it should be condemned and torn down. And I don't mean stinking metaphorically.
Some girls are cute and young, but the service is generally woeful. This is forgiveable if you are enjoying the vibe of compliant, sweet and generous girls, but disappointing if, once she gets her kit off, you realize that she's not quite what you bargained for. Plus some real lookers in the room will sulk, get
On their phones etcetc.
The worst is that you pay so much for about an hour of `service`. I've made it be more time when the vibe was good and settled for less when I just
Wanted to get out of there. However, given that you get 2 hours with a generally good massage and total professionalism with a 2, 300 be oily, it's just
Much better bang for the buck. If you waste 2, 600 be for one hour of indifferent and fumbling service at a soapy, the two don't even compare.
Alaina is like an upmarket hotel: it's almost new, it's huge and the rooms are fabulous. It's midway between MRT stops Huai Khwang and Thailand Cultural Centre. The first time I've forgotten, but tonight I had A50, a sweet Isaan girl with quite large real jubblies and a bit of experience. She gave BBBJ and
Pretended convincingly to be enjoying any position (no anal). It was good, but not hugely memorable for 2, 700b.
Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There
Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90
Minutes, then it'll be a palace.
Ralph Kramden
03-06-14, 14:33
Spent two weeks in Huai Khwang area. Went to Nataree 6 times and Alaina twice. The pursuit of young and fresh is expensive. I have to say that in all
The visits to Nataree I was blown out twice by my luck in finding a girl both cute and open to sexual exploration of the most basic kind. The rest of the
Times were quite ordinary, with perfunctory service, rushed and hardly adequate. Many people have written about this place, including me, and we all
Seem to agree, but here is an updated list of faults:
It's 2, 600 to geez. 10, 000 be for `virgins`.
The place is a stinking hole- it should be condemned and torn down. And I don't mean stinking metaphorically.
Some girls are cute and young, but the service is generally woeful. This is forgiveable if you are enjoying the vibe of compliant, sweet and generous girls, but disappointing if, once she gets her kit off, you realize that she's not quite what you bargained for. Plus some real lookers in the room will sulk, get
On their phones etcetc.
The worst is that you pay so much for about an hour of `service`. I've made it be more time when the vibe was good and settled for less when I just
Wanted to get out of there. However, given that you get 2 hours with a generally good massage and total professionalism with a 2, 300 be oily, it's just
Much better bang for the buck. If you waste 2, 600 be for one hour of indifferent and fumbling service at a soapy, the two don't even compare.
Alaina is like an upmarket hotel: it's almost new, it's huge and the rooms are fabulous. It's midway between MRT stops Huai Khwang and Thailand Cultural Centre. The first time I've forgotten, but tonight I had A50, a sweet Isaan girl with quite large real jubblies and a bit of experience. She gave BBBJ and
Pretended convincingly to be enjoying any position (no anal). It was good, but not hugely memorable for 2, 700b.
Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There
Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90
Minutes, then it'll be a palace.I agree entirely Dan. But there is something about Nataree that keeps me going back. Quite probably it the enjoyment of banging the puddin out of a soft skin lass who still has youth on her side. Apparently you didn't try Madame which is on the opposite end of the strip mall that Nataree is in, and just across the side street from the Emerald Hotel. I had a great experience there in December and will return next Wednesday for one more week. I will stay at the Le Concorde for the first time so access will be easy.
Western787
03-06-14, 18:24
Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There
Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90
Minutes, then it'll be a palace.The question has always been, how does Nataree manage to get all these young and (often quite) hot girls and also offer them at a reasonable price? Obviously the splits going to the dancers have to be better than normal. The building rent or mortgage is probably low enough to allow them to pass on the savings to the girls. However if you put them in Alaina (and its new building) the splits would have to change, so they would lose many of the girls. Now nearly all the soapies are currently operatiing below capacity, so in theory they could move many to Alaina, but it won't' work longer term when the Japanese return in large numbers.
Of course Alaina like many of the high end soapies many nights has live entertainment, and that cost gets passed on also
If one included fake breasts, that would rule out most of the Miss Universe contestants, most NFL cheerleaders, and probably the majority of Playboy models, so to me breasts, fake or otherwise are all the same.
On a side note Dancer #31 at Rainbow 4, who seems as far I can tell to have disappeared from the scene, has a very strong resemblance to Miss China 2011, so much so (especially in facial terms) that someone unfamiliar with her could easily pick her out on stage merely after being shown a photo of Miss China. Admittedly she did act somewhat crazy at times, and certainly had a frenetic dancing style. Perhaps she has been sponsored full time as she did seem to be soliciting for someone to do so, so maybe a Japanese or Chinese dude has her stashed away somewhere.
http://missuniversechina.com/2011/wp-content/uploads/luo-zilin-evening-gown1.jpgNo 31 at Rainbow 4 was a fave of mine as well and she does seem to have disappeared since mid January. She used to be one of the 'star' dancers at Tilac before and used to dance way better than she did at Rainbow.
Ralph Kramden
03-07-14, 16:07
The question has always been, how does Nataree manage to get all these young and (often quite) hot girls and also offer them at a reasonable price? Obviously the splits going to the dancers have to be better than normal. The building rent or mortgage is probably low enough to allow them to pass on the savings to the girls. However if you put them in Alaina (and its new building) the splits would have to change, so they would lose many of the girls. Now nearly all the soapies are currently operatiing below capacity, so in theory they could move many to Alaina, but it won't' work longer term when the Japanese return in large numbers.
Of course Alaina like many of the high end soapies many nights has live entertainment, and that cost gets passed on alsoApparently Nataree has established a well used pipeline with Chiang Rai and other northern Thailand areas. I suspect it is associated with the parents of the girls who work there in the form of loans or other payments. This allows them to be picky about hiring more local girls. A high quality product, low overhead and relatively low prices keep the customers coming back.
In fact the sideline girls are well trained to not give a BBBJ and minimal service, with exceptions, in order to keep the customer flow going smoothly. Each individual girl cares little if you come back to see her because she knows there will be a different john waiting in the wings. Therefore she is not penalized by a lack of effort. It all operates in a pattern. She can even ignore the customer by talking on her phone while the tub fills.
It is a sound business model except when the flow of customers slows for various reasons. But then everyone hurts for business when that happens.
Western787
03-07-14, 17:31
No 31 at Rainbow 4 was a fave of mine as well and she does seem to have disappeared since mid January. She used to be one of the 'star' dancers at Tilac before and used to dance way better than she did at Rainbow.IMHO if #31 would just slow down her dancing style, she would have gotten a lot more customers. One time I saw a few of the girls on the right side making fun of her dance style by mimicking her on stage, and it got kind of nasty after awhile as they wouldn't lay off making fun of her.
In regard to the other extreme, super slow dance styles, there is a very hot dancer who works the left side (usually at the extreme left) at R4 (with almost a Burmese look)and she wears red platform heels and always has fishnet stockings. She barely moves, no shuffle or steps at all, just moves her hips very very slow with a sligtht rotation every few seconds, and given her great ass and shapely hips it looks amazingly sexy
Western787
03-07-14, 17:50
No 31 at Rainbow 4 was a fave of mine as well and she does seem to have disappeared since mid January. She used to be one of the 'star' dancers at Tilac before and used to dance way better than she did at Rainbow.As for her English, not so good, and probably less than 6 or 7 sentences ("you have a girlfriend yet"?"condom?","ok take care of ME now" (directing you to go down on her). Now as far as her kissing, very very good, and would even full mouth lingering kiss you right out in the open at the club
Spent two weeks in Huai Khwang area. Went to Nataree 6 times and Alaina twice. The pursuit of young and fresh is expensive. I have to say that in all
The visits to Nataree I was blown out twice by my luck in finding a girl both cute and open to sexual exploration of the most basic kind. The rest of the
Times were quite ordinary, with perfunctory service, rushed and hardly adequate. Many people have written about this place, including me, and we all
Seem to agree, but here is an updated list of faults:
It's 2, 600 to geez. 10, 000 be for `virgins`.
The place is a stinking hole- it should be condemned and torn down. And I don't mean stinking metaphorically.
Some girls are cute and young, but the service is generally woeful. This is forgiveable if you are enjoying the vibe of compliant, sweet and generous girls, but disappointing if, once she gets her kit off, you realize that she's not quite what you bargained for. Plus some real lookers in the room will sulk, get
On their phones etcetc.
The worst is that you pay so much for about an hour of `service`. I've made it be more time when the vibe was good and settled for less when I just
Wanted to get out of there. However, given that you get 2 hours with a generally good massage and total professionalism with a 2, 300 be oily, it's just
Much better bang for the buck. If you waste 2, 600 be for one hour of indifferent and fumbling service at a soapy, the two don't even compare.
Alaina is like an upmarket hotel: it's almost new, it's huge and the rooms are fabulous. It's midway between MRT stops Huai Khwang and Thailand Cultural Centre. The first time I've forgotten, but tonight I had A50, a sweet Isaan girl with quite large real jubblies and a bit of experience. She gave BBBJ and
Pretended convincingly to be enjoying any position (no anal). It was good, but not hugely memorable for 2, 700b.
Alaina is apparently owned by the same Chinese mob that own Nataree. At the moment the only problem with Alaina is the the narrow selection. There
Were about 20 girls on a Wednesday, compared with 40 at Nataree. If they move everyone to Alaina and train all the girls to give better service for 90
Minutes, then it'll be a palace.According to their own website http://www.alainamassage.com/ The A girls are 2000 baht so it looks like you paid the farang surcharge.
As for girls chatting on mobile phones in Nataree, I've never experienced that nor would I put up with it. Just tell her to turn it off.
For all my bitching about Nataree, there I was, lump in my pants and back for more last night. Struck gold. A young petite beauty from Chiang Mai who gave a great massage while the bath was filling, then abnam, then BBBJ and any position, no anal etc. But afterwards we just lay around for half an hour hugging and playing like kids. So of course, if they like you, if you present as a compassionate male rather than a support system for a cock, you often get a great GFE. 90 mins and I was spent and thoroughly charmed. (I speak enough Thai)
As for phones, yes, I always politely say, kor mai mutu, (please no phone). As for Alaina, the prices are 2, 500 to 3, 300 despite what the website says. I know because I've seen the touts cheatsheets, which are in Thai. I wouldn't imagine there's one just for farang. There were no sideliners when I went, just the bowl, and many more staff (yes, including the band) than girls, all hanging about doing nothing. I was the only customer. I also tried Colonze 2, and Madames and that other place next to Nataree. Don't bother. If you're bored with Nataree, try Alaina: it's only 10 mins walk.
Ralph Kramden
03-08-14, 05:30
For all my bitching about Nataree, there I was, lump in my pants and back for more last night. Struck gold. A young petite beauty from Chiang Mai who gave a great massage while the bath was filling, then abnam, then BBBJ and any position, no anal etc. But afterwards we just lay around for half an hour hugging and playing like kids. So of course, if they like you, if you present as a compassionate male rather than a support system for a cock, you often get a great GFE. 90 mins and I was spent and thoroughly charmed. (I speak enough Thai)
As for phones, yes, I always politely say, kor mai mutu, (please no phone). As for Alaina, the prices are 2, 500 to 3, 300 despite what the website says. I know because I've seen the touts cheatsheets, which are in Thai. I wouldn't imagine there's one just for farang. There were no sideliners when I went, just the bowl, and many more staff (yes, including the band) than girls, all hanging about doing nothing. I was the only customer. I also tried Colonze 2, and Madames and that other place next to Nataree. Don't bother. If you're bored with Nataree, try Alaina: it's only 10 mins walk.One needs to keep in mind that out of four experiences at Nataree, one will likely be a home run like yours, one will be a near disaster and the other two will be in between. That has been my experience over the long haul of several years. And no question about it, having Thai language skills helps your chances. Even if they know hardly any English, almost every girl asks me "You speak Thai?" Also acting like a gentleman will improve your chances. And immediately tell the girl to turn off the tv if she switches it on.
Eddie Munster
03-08-14, 10:09
I can second Daddy San. I regularly go off the beaten track for fresh anal girls. In the past month I've fucked 10 girls who worked in regular massage shops or were friends of girls who worked in regular massage shops. Ages 18-32 and from all parts of Thailand. Only one even mentioned a condom and eight of them took it up the ass. As the saying goes,"Closed mouths don't get fed". I ask for anal and I get it. The onus of condom usage falls on both parties, if I wouldn't have had my own condoms and insisted on using them then there would have been a lot of bareback buttfucking going on.Have any tips for spotting ones who would be open to it? Are the massage places where these girls are located in one particular area, etc? Are you paying them for their time or is it a non-pro situation? Do you just get their Line ID or something and hit them up later?
Very curious to give it a whirl. I'm not the smoothest guy, so any help is appreciated.
In other news, I went with Pummy at Snow White the other day. Beautiful, open to A+, great BJ, but goes a little too slow for me at times. Nice body, but breasts slightly underwhelming.
One needs to keep in mind that out of four experiences at Nataree, one will likely be a home run like yours, one will be a near disaster and the other two will be in between. That has been my experience over the long haul of several years. And no question about it, having Thai language skills helps your chances. Even if they know hardly any English, almost every girl asks me "You speak Thai?" Also acting like a gentleman will improve your chances. And immediately tell the girl to turn off the tv if she switches it on.I agree completely. Too many crap girls there. That is why I avoid Nataree for 2 to 3 years now. Some other places I manage a better hit rate. La Belle is also on my low hit rate list.
TooManyLol
03-09-14, 12:14
Anyone in Bangkok want to head down to Ratcha? A little bit bored travelling alone.
Thinking of hitting either Emmanuelle, Nataree or Alaina. Been to Nataree and Alaina so might try Emmanuelle.
Have any tips for spotting ones who would be open to it? Are the massage places where these girls are located in one particular area, etc? Are you paying them for their time or is it a non-pro situation? Do you just get their Line I'd or something and hit them up later?
Very curious to give it a whirl. I'm not the smoothest guy, so any help is appreciated.I'm not smooth either but you're going to need a little courage to get what you're after outside of the usual places like Tulip. To answer your questions: there isn't any particular area to peruse or way to spot the ones who would be open to it but I just go after the ones I like (I'm pretty picky) and then go from there. Also, not all P4P either. The only caveats would be that I'm young and I speak Thai. I'll give an example though this actually happened in Hua Hin not Bangkok.
I went to a legit massage parlor away from the main strip area. I walked in and then some old hag of a masseuse walked in behind me thinking she would massage me, I told her no and the picked the cute one with the nice ass that I was eyeing from across the street. She asked me why I chose her and I told her in the most polite way possible that I picked her because I liked her butt. This simple comment set the tone and got her to giggle. I got the Thai massage and it was great. When I flipped over and she was doing my thighs I got the inevitable woody and I caught her staring at it. She giggled again, read my body language and then said "No special here" with a sly smile. I laughed and said "that's ok, I don't like hand jobs anyway". Five minutes passes and she asks "why you don't like?" I reply "because it doesn't feel good to me and you said no special already". This leads to her to change her tune and say "Ok, can boom boom but have to be quiet. 1,500 baht ok?" I tell her I'll give her 1, 500 total, including the massage (the massage was 400 baht already) but only if it includes for anal. She says no, I say never mind then. She asks a few more times for regular sex, I tell her no since it doesn't get me off. Eventually she says ok but tells me to go slow and stop if it hurts. Huge grin on my face at this point. I bend her over and lick her ass to relax her and she's moaning softly. I can tell she likes it from the moans and the fact that her pussy is getting soaking wet but when I asks if it feels good she tells me "no" in between moans. The ultimate display of cognitive dissonance. I lube her up and go straight for the ass, she's uncomfortable but I take my time and after a few minutes I'm in. A few more minutes and she's moaning again, a few more and I'm leaned over deep french kissing her while really plowing her asshole. Her butthole is tight and smooth and I don't last much longer since she's moaning and kissing me like this. I can't believe my luck so I make sure to get her number. That was few months ago and I've been fucking her regularly since then and to this day I've yet to fuck her pussy. Always anal. She loves it, I love it. Now I get her for very long time for 1, 000 baht. And before anyone asks or jokes, I'm above average size. You'd be surprised what can fit inside these girls under the right circumstances.
In this situation if I wouldn't have asked for what I wanted, then there is no way I would be banging this 19 year up the butt on the regular right now. She's one of my favorites at the moment but by no means is this the only example I have. I do use Line and What's App by the way. Both apps are absolute gold mines. Easy to keep in touch and free for the girls. Like I said, be up front with what you want and know that you don't have to settle. It's easy to find.
i'm not smooth either but you're going to need a little courage to get what you're after outside of the usual places like tulip. to answer your questions: there isn't any particular area to peruse or way to spot the ones who would be open to it but i just go after the ones i like (i'm pretty picky) and then go from there. also, not all p4p either. the only caveats would be that i'm young and i speak thai.what's a nice way to tell a girl you want anal sex in thai? there are some suggestions on the tlc website but they often give formal phrases not used in everyday speech. here is what they suggest for anal intercourse:
khaof bpral dtuum langr
ruaamf phaehtf thaangm thah waanm nakl
lenf dtuutl
what's a nice way to tell a girl you want anal sex in thai? there are some suggestions on the tlc website but they often give formal phrases not used in everyday speech.if you can't come up with a way to say it in thai, i suggest english is better, as your thai may not be good enough.
If you can't come up with a way to say it in Thai, I suggest English is better, as your Thai may not be good enough.My Thai is pretty good but asking for anal sex is obviously not something that appears in your average language book nor would they teach it in a language school.
Asking for it in English would be completely pointless if the girl doesn't understand English.
My Thai is pretty good but asking for anal sex is obviously not something that appears in your average language book nor would they teach it in a language school.
Asking for it in English would be completely pointless if the girl doesn't understand English.Thais like to speak a little indirectly about grubby stuff.
"Ao doot" would be quite direct.
"Ao khang Lang" slightly less direct.
I am not actually raising this type of phrase with girls however they did mention in Thai occasionally. I don't recall exact phrases they used.
what's a nice way to tell a girl you want anal sex in thai? there are some suggestions on the tlc website but they often give formal phrases not used in everyday speech. here is what they suggest for anal intercourse:
khaof bpral dtuum langr.
ruaamf phaehtf thaangm thah waanm nakl.
lenf dtuutli'm sure you're familiar with register. words good for one situation may be inappropriate for others. with that said, i've used two of those phrases on occasion. the first one means something like "go in the back door" and is a bit playful. the second one is way too formal. it's something a doctor would say. the third one is a tad bit vulgar but as i said if the girl speaks this way to you in this register in private then roll with it. dictionaries will be cautious and warn you that nearly all the words describing this are vulgar but it's not the case in reality. for example the word "uh/เออ" is seen as a rude way to signify agreement but you'll notice friends using this word amongst themselves all the time instead of the "ka / krab" used with elders, superiors, customers and sometimes strangers. i've used this the "uh/เออ" with friends and most of the time it's cool but sometimes a girl will snap back at me saying that's a rude word, even though she was just using the same word herself just minutes before. it's got more to do with her being threatened by the fact that i know even the slang thai words than it has to do with the word sometimes being seen as rude. but that's neither here not there. as someone already mentioned "ao dtuut/เอาตูด" seems to be the phrase that must young girls use for the act and it's also my personal favorite. you can also fall back on boom boom bum bum or something other while pointing at her butt if you can't get the pronunciation right.
I'm sure you're familiar with register. Words good for one situation may be inappropriate for others. With that said, I've used two of those phrases on occasion. The first one means something like "go in the back door" and is a bit playful. The second one is way too formal. It's something a doctor would say. The third one is a tad bit vulgar but as I said if the girl speaks this way to you in this register in private then roll with it. Dictionaries will be cautious and warn you that nearly all the words describing this are vulgar but it's not the case in reality. For example the word "uh/เออ" is seen as a rude way to signify agreement but you'll notice friends using this word amongst themselves all the time instead of the "ka / krab" used with elders, superiors, customers and sometimes strangers. I've used this the "uh/เออ" with friends and most of the time it's cool but sometimes a girl will snap back at me saying that's a rude word, even though she was just using the same word herself just minutes before. It's got more to do with her being threatened by the fact that I know even the slang Thai words than it has to do with the word sometimes being seen as rude. But that's neither here not there. As someone already mentioned "ao dtuut/เอาตูด" seems to be the phrase that must young girls use for the act and it's also my personal favorite. You can also fall back on boom boom bum bum or something other while pointing at her butt if you can't get the pronunciation right.
TLC claims "ao dtuut" is for "male-male anal intercourse" but that website is often wrong. If I said "ao dtuut dai mai?" would that be understood as me wanting to penetrate her or may she pull out a strap-on?
TLC claims "ao dtuut" is for "male-male anal intercourse" but that website is often wrong. If I said "ao dtuut dai mai?" would that be understood as me wanting to penetrate her or may she pull out a strap-on?"ao dtuut" is still an affirmative sentence,"ao dtuut dai mai?" is an interrogative sentence
Thais like to speak a little indirectly about grubby stuff.
"Ao doot" would be quite direct.
"Ao khang Lang" slightly less direct.
I am not actually raising this type of phrase with girls however they did mention in Thai occasionally. I don't recall exact phrases they used.Add in some humor- Pratu lang puut mai?
Add in some humor- Pratu lang puut mai?Ah yes,"Yaak ja khao pratuu Lang" is a good indirect way
"ao dtuut" is still an affirmative sentence,"ao dtuut dai mai?" is an interrogative sentenceI know but "ao" can mean both want and take so I'm confused whether "ao dtuut dai mai?" means "Can I give you one up the arse?" or "Can you give me one up the arse?" Same with "yaak ao dtuut". Does it mean "I would like to give you one up the arse?" or "I would like you to give me one up the arse?"
I know but "ao" can mean both want and take so I'm confused whether "ao dtuut dai mai?" means "Can I give you one up the arse?" or "Can you give me one up the arse?" Same with "yaak ao dtuut". Does it mean "I would like to give you one up the arse?" or "I would like you to give me one up the arse?"These phrases are ambivalent because the subject lacks. But if we add the subject or, better, if we specify the owner of the object (ตูดของหนู dtuut kong noo. Your arse) , everything becomes clear
I know but "ao" can mean both want and take so I'm confused whether "ao dtuut dai mai?" means "Can I give you one up the arse?" or "Can you give me one up the arse?" Same with "yaak ao dtuut". Does it mean "I would like to give you one up the arse?" or "I would like you to give me one up the arse?"It means "can I take your ass". The word "your" is understood when you say "dai Mai". Use "Chuay" to ask someone to do something to you.
It means "can I take your ass". The word "your" is understood when you say "dai Mai". Use "Chuay" to ask someone to do something to you.Chuay means help. Do you mean "hai"?
These phrases are ambivalent because the subject lacks. But if we add the subject or, better, if we specify the owner of the object (ตูดของหนู dtuut kong noo. Your arse) , everything becomes clearSounds good. Do you use "noo" with the girls? I usually use "nong" but maybe that's a little too polite?
Chuay means help. Do you mean "hai"?When you request someone to do something, you preceded the sentence with "Chuay" and yes it means help or assist. E. G."Chuay ao duut phom dai Mai" means "can you please fuck my ass?"
Sounds good. Do you use "noo" with the girls? I usually use "nong" but maybe that's a little too polite?Noo and nong are about equal as far as politeness goes. The thing is both are used for when you're speaking to someone younger than yourself. The girls aren't always younger than me in my case so I'll just leave that out or just refer to them in third person or use tuh/khun, depending on how well I know them.
Back to your earlier question about specific areas for anal girls. If you go to any of the massages places in the Arab areas (both Bangkok and Pattaya) your chances for anal skyrocket. Don't know why I forgot to mention it before. Bring your own lube though since they usually only have baby oil.
LoverboyJerico
03-11-14, 03:46
Guys, I'm planning to land at the Swarnabhoomi Airport and head directly to Pattaya. Can you please suggest some good soapy massage parlours near the airport where I can get a nice massage and a tight fuck. My family will be waiting for me in Pattaya so I can't take exceptionally long to reach. Or would you advice me to go to Pattaya and do it. Also note I will be carrying a peice of luggage. So will the places have space to keep that? Hope you help. Thanks in advance
Guys, I'm planning to land at the swarnabhoomi airport and head directly to Pattaya. Can you please suggest some good soapy massage parlours near the airport where I can get a nice massage and a tight fuck. My family will be waiting for me in Pattaya so I can't take exceptionally long to reach. Or would you advice me to go to Pattaya and do it. Also note I will be carrying a peice of luggage. So will the places have space to keep that? Hope you help. Thanks in advanceYou're heading directly to Pattaya but want a massage near the airport? Yes, I would advise you to get your massage in Pattaya especially since you're heading there directly.
Sounds good. Do you use "noo" with the girls? I usually use "nong" but maybe that's a little too polite?"nong" is sometime too polite."Noo" (mouse) is more confidential."nong" works to all both sexes. You can refer to a man as well as a woman.
"noo" is used to women or to young children, both male and female.
AssLover945
03-11-14, 17:38
Guys, I'm planning to land at the swarnabhoomi airport and head directly to Pattaya. Can you please suggest some good soapy massage parlours near the airport where I can get a nice massage and a tight fuck. My family will be waiting for me in Pattaya so I can't take exceptionally long to reach. Or would you advice me to go to Pattaya and do it. Also note I will be carrying a peice of luggage. So will the places have space to keep that? Hope you help. Thanks in advanceDevil's DenatSoi LK Metro
"nong" is sometime too polite."Noo" (mouse) is more confidential."nong" works to all both sexes. You can refer to a man as well as a woman.
"noo" is used to women or to young children, both male and female.I think I'm too old to use Nong. I usually just use their name if I can remember it or Khun if need a pronoun 2nd person. I don't belie e their is any real problem with this system. I might use Nong for the waitress perhaps.
I think I'm too old to use Nong. I usually just use their name if I can remember it or Khun if need a pronoun 2nd person. I don't belie e their is any real problem with this system. I might use Nong for the waitress perhaps.Exactly, dear Syzygies, if you're very old, "nong" is perhaps not very appropriate to use it to a very young girl, but it is recommended that you use it with a waiter (both male or female) or with a shop clerk, generally speaking.
Exactly, dear Syzygies, if you're very old, "nong" is perhaps not very appropriate to use it to a very young girl, but it is recommended that you use it with a waiter (both male or female) or with a shop clerk, generally speaking.I would have thought noo or rao would be more appropriate than khun for an old guy to use with a young girl.
I would have thought noo or rao would be more appropriate than khun for an old guy to use with a young girl.Khun is a very general polite pronoun for you. There is no problem being a little more polite than necessary. Using the girl's name is always good. For a monk or very high person you should "than" instead or sometimes "ajaan" for a monk means teacher. Khun is not sufficient.
Rao officially means we. You should not use it much. I don't hear Thais use it much. If you know a girl really well can use "another site" like Thais do for meaning "you", or more likely "ti rak" or darling.
Thai girls have called me "jar" (rising tone) but I am not sure it really means you exactly.
Member #4263
03-12-14, 16:55
For all my bitching about Nataree, there I was, lump in my pants and back for more last night. Struck gold. A young petite beauty from Chiang Mai who gave a great massage while the bath was filling, then abnam, then BBBJ and any position, no anal etc. But afterwards we just lay around for half an hour hugging and playing like kids. So of course, if they like you, if you present as a compassionate male rather than a support system for a cock, you often get a great GFE. 90 mins and I was spent and thoroughly charmed. (I speak enough Thai)
As for phones, yes, I always politely say, kor mai mutu, (please no phone). As for Alaina, the prices are 2, 500 to 3, 300 despite what the website says. I know because I've seen the touts cheatsheets, which are in Thai. I wouldn't imagine there's one just for farang. There were no sideliners when I went, just the bowl, and many more staff (yes, including the band) than girls, all hanging about doing nothing. I was the only customer. I also tried Colonze 2, and Madames and that other place next to Nataree. Don't bother. If you're bored with Nataree, try Alaina: it's only 10 mins walk.Wait so Alaina actually has a foreigner surcharge? I'm a little suprised since the owners of Alaina also own Nataree. Is this sort of the 'high-end' sister joint vs 'low-end' sister joint type of business operation? Oh well, I've erased both from my 'to-do' list. Too many bad reviews of Nataree on ISG and other forums (hot chicks, lackluster performance) and the likes. I've reached a point in my life where I simply cannot tolerat defiances likes this. I expect the highest level of transparency.
Oh well, at this point I might as well accept the foreigner surcharge and head to Emmanuelle.
Member #4263
03-12-14, 17:06
Sure, Tulip, Mango are a sure thing for PSE with rimming, anal etc, but you usually get seasoned pros, who have been doing this day in day out for years, months or weeks.
(I know there are exceptions, who even after 2 months on the job remain delightfully fresh).
What I find much more exciting is trawling seemingly legit MPs, off the beaten track, for women, whom I personally feel attracted to.
Out of 6 in the past 5 weeks, only one did not hop into bed with me in my hotel room, after the initial foot massage, followed by an oil massage in private at the shop.
Since the legit shops don't allow it, these ladies don't normally have sex with customers, they do mostly give HJs...San,
Are some of those 'seemingly legit' located in Nana by any chance? Also, I'm sure it's possible in massage places, but I wonder if there any Spas that do so? I have doubts that some of those high-end and 'seemingly' really reputable Spas like Healthland would offer such services, but if they do hoooray!
if you know a girl really well can use "another site" like Thais do for meaning "you"That was corrupted by forum software."Another site is not what I typed at all. Should been "t e r". This word seems to be banned.
Eric Swiss
03-13-14, 03:56
Went back to Addict around lunchtime. I brought a friend who is new to the Bangkok oily scene, but no stranger to Working Girls. He selected one of the girls I've been with before, and whom I reviewed here. I picked a new girl named Noon who's only been here for 6 days and comes from Chiang Mai. She has light skin and a bit of Chinese type. She looks a bit older, maybe 28, and is short, I'd say 1m57. Her English is really excellent.
In the room she said "you look so interesting, it's your eyes" and asked me to spell my name, if I was married, what I field worked in, and what company I worked for. I smelled a rat. I gave fake answers to the first three and point-blank refused to answer the last one. I would certainly not disclose such private information to a masseuse. This is the kind of girl who thinks Farangs are stupid enough to fall in love with massage parlor girls. Well, statistically she may be right, but she'd fallen on the wrong guy. I don't want to be stalked.
Anyway, it was all going fine, she was very bubbly, talkative and funny, seemed genuinely at ease and pleased to be here. She undressed me very sensually, which was the best part of the massage, and started soaping me up. At some point in the shower she discovered I liked Thai food and blurted out: "Then you need to marry a Thai wife so she can cook Thai food for you!" Clearly she meant a Thai woman such as herself. What would you have answered to that, dear readers?
I answered "No, I'll hire a Thai cook instead, it's much cheaper". She made the face of not understanding what I was talking about, so I clarified: "Marriage is very expensive". For some reason, that completely killed the good vibe between us. From then on she did not speak, tried to prolong the non-sensual part of the massage beyond what I know to be reasonable, tried to keep her towel on while she was massaging me, and tried to make me come very quickly once the act was underway by licking my nipples. All of which I parried as best I could. In the end I took control and started pounding her doggy style. I made her sweat and I made her face get flushed red, so that must have made some kind of impact. But I couldn't care less to make her come against her will, so I just shot my load in her.
No tip for Noon, and no repeat business from me, as you can guess!
Lover Boy #2
03-13-14, 04:39
Read here a while back that Yok was working again. This is the one pictured that looks the part. I think it is her.
Read here a while back that Yok was working again. This is the one pictured that looks the part. I think it is her.If you refer to the Yok of tulip, she was working for a time at Cherry but not now. I can't predict the future.
Member #4263
03-13-14, 17:56
Went back to Addict around lunchtime. I brought a friend who is new to the Bangkok oily scene, but no stranger to Working Girls. He selected one of the girls I've been with before, and whom I reviewed here. I picked a new girl named Noon who's only been here for 6 days and comes from Chiang Mai. She has light skin and a bit of Chinese type. She looks a bit older, maybe 28, and is short, I'd say 1m57. Her English is really excellent.
In the room she said "you look so interesting, it's your eyes" and asked me to spell my name, if I was married, what I field worked in, and what company I worked for. I smelled a rat. I gave fake answers to the first three and point-blank refused to answer the last one. I would certainly not disclose such private information to a masseuse. This is the kind of girl who thinks Farangs are stupid enough to fall in love with massage parlor girls. Well, statistically she may be right, but she'd fallen on the wrong guy. I don't want to be stalked...It's funny I read this today.
If anyone (not just a sex worker) ever tried that on me I would've done the same. You did well. I think I would've dodged the answers with "it's a Thai company" for the last question and a "maybe, one day" to "Then you need to marry a Thai wife so she can cook Thai food for you!", knowing that she would've changed mood if I had said "no" or anything else.
The trick is to play along and avoid direct answers and give her a sense that you're not refusing.
Since you can't get your money back and leave at this point you might as well get the service you want. Once the service is over and she asks to exchange numbers, emails etc. Just give her something fake and leave.
I say it's funny I read this today because a neighbor (who never asks anything and is always private and respectful) dared to ask me where I was heading today. Ofc, I didn't answer, ignored him and left.
I answered "No, I'll hire a Thai cook instead, it's much cheaper". She made the face of not understanding what I was talking about, so I clarified: "Marriage is very expensive". For some reason, that completely killed the good vibe between us. From then on she did not speak, tried to prolong the non-sensual part of the massage beyond what I know to be reasonable, tried to keep her towel on while she was massaging me, and tried to make me come very quickly once the act was underway by licking my nipples. All of which I parried as best I could. In the end I took control and started pounding her doggy style. I made her sweat and I made her face get flushed red, so that must have made some kind of impact. But I couldn't care less to make her come against her will, so I just shot my load in her.You are just stupid. Just play along, lie if needed. Don't be an ass and she won't treat you like one,
In the room she said "you look so interesting, it's your eyes" and asked me to spell my name, if I was married, what I field worked in, and what company I worked for. I smelled a rat. I gave fake answers to the first three and point-blank refused to answer the last one. I would certainly not disclose such private information to a masseuse. This is the kind of girl who thinks Farangs are stupid enough to fall in love with massage parlor girls. Well, statistically she may be right, but she'd fallen on the wrong guy. I don't want to be stalked.You found the one bubbly friendly girl in BKK who was perhaps genuinely interested in you, and you pissed her off. Do you have many friends back home in Switzerland?
Edit: Apologies, you are not from Switzerland because I see you made the other cretinous comment recently: "Her name was Dan, which was a bit weird because in the US it's a guy's name but This Is Thailand so I guess anything goes."
Holy moley, I also met a girl called Apple. Now that is really weird because in the US that is a computer!!! What a crazy wacky place Thailand is!!!
You found the one bubbly friendly girl in BKK who was perhaps genuinely interested in you, and you pissed her off. Do you have many friends back home in Switzerland?LOL he has serious trust issues.
ConquerorVal
03-13-14, 19:29
This is the kind of girl who thinks Farangs are stupid enough to fall in love with massage parlour girls..No tip for Noon, and no repeat business from me, as you can guess!The only think I can guess from your report is that you are a young, mean spirited, narcissistic fool.
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