Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Tiger 888]

Tipped her 150 bht since she was a trooper. A 150 Baht Tip is worse than none. I would possibly tip this amount to show the girl that she was no good.

[NicFrenchy]

A 150 Baht Tip is worse than none. I would possibly tip this amount to show the girl that she was no good.I was being Sarcastic, obviously, I failed LOLI usually give 500 as a minimum if the performance was good, and 50 to the maid.

[Daddy07]

...I usually give 500 as a minimum if the performance was good, and 50 to the maid.If the underlying charge for the service is 1500, then 150 is 10% -- and therefore an adequate, if not overly generous tip IMHO. A 500 baht tip for the same service is 33% and excessive by any reasonable standards. But if it's worth it for you, by all means, go for it! It's your money.

[Russell Crowe]

I had made an appointment for one of my favorites at Angels and when I arrived she was not quite ready for me. I was a little annoyed until the fireworks started. A Japanese customer came down the stairs and he was pretty agitated. He kept saying: "she don't ask me for special". He even addressed me to try and gain my sympathy. I just looked at him and laughed. At first, I thought he was upset that he had not received the special service. However, he had screwed the girl, he just thought it was on the house since he didn't state that he wanted the special. I found this to be pretty funny. No massage parlor girl is going to screw you and not expect to get paid, you have to be an idiot to think otherwise. George Clooney could walk in there and not get free pussy.An argument played out between him and the mamasan. Him, adamantly stating: "she no ask me for special", and her stating: "why don't you stop her, if you no want sex". He proceeded to threaten to post his experience on the Internet and that she would have no customers. What do you think? You think he is not going to get flamed and laughed off any Japanese board of mongers who have been to Angels? Someone had retrieved the condom at this point, which was a bit gross, to prove that he had screwed the girl. He never denied that obviously, so this was just added mayhem.I had been sitting on the couch by the door and soon he came down and sat near me on the chair right by the door. I think he was angling to make a run for it, but soon all the girls from the bullpen area came out and blocked the door. After a while, and many heated exchanges, the Mamasan came down to 2000 Baht and he finally agreed to pay, probably realizing he was going to have a hard time getting out the door. At this point he started to leave, but another Mamasan came over with a camera to take his photo at the same time. He was half way out the door and they grabbed him, he struggled and one of the girls kicked him in the ass as he got away.This was definitely one for the mongering memoirs. Who says Thai women are passive? There was a whole mob of them ready to kick this guys ass.

[Mauldid]

I was being Sarcastic, obviously, I failed LOLI usually give 500 as a minimum if the performance was good, and 50 to the maid.Nic,She gave the cleaner 20 so that why I gave her 50 plus the hundred to cover it. As a tourist I get ripped off when buying t-shirts and hopping into a taxi. Rather tip people who are some what honest, well at least the price as advertised. Not a cheap charlie and would have given her more but didn't want to ruin it for other people. Tipping is optional but it doesn't hurt our pockets if we do it for good service. Again, everyone thanks for all the advices. This is my best trip to LOS yet.

[Dan7373]

This is my first trip to Bangkok and I am INDIAN, so I kindly request to give me some suggestions regarding massage places or bars or escort services, as I got to know that thai girls don't treat indian people properly....I can believe there is some prejudice in Thailand against Indian people. Some of it is based on misunderstanding. I had to argue with my Thai lady some time ago when she said that all Indians are muslims. She had some encounters with Bangladeshis and Pakistanis. And she confused them with Indians because of similar looks.But the reason why she had something against men who looked like Indians was because a female friend of hers at a Pattaya bar got pregnant from such a man when he persuaded her to have unprotected sex with him. This friend of hers for one reason or another didn't have an abortion. She gave birth to the baby. And now she sex-works even harder than before to support her baby without any help from the father of the baby. This prejudice is more than just misunderstanding. Many Thais see light skin color as attractive and dark skin color as unattractive. And of course many Indians have dark skin color.I've seen some Indian men go to massage parlours in Pattaya. And they seemed to be happy when they came out. Perhaps if you pay the lady well and don't ask her to do anything risky in terms of pregnancy and health. Then she will respond well to you and let you have some fun with her. It's all a matter of being persuasive enough. And giving the lady some extra money as a way of introducing yourself will certainly go a long way to persuade her.

[Satrai2000]

I can believe there is some prejudice in Thailand against Indian people. Some of it is based on misunderstanding. I had to argue with my Thai lady some time ago when she said that all Indians are muslims. She had some encounters with Bangladeshis and Pakistanis. And she confused them with Indians because of similar looks.But the reason why she had something against men who looked like Indians was because a female friend of hers at a Pattaya bar got pregnant from such a man when he persuaded her to have unprotected sex with him. This friend of hers for one reason or another didn't have an abortion. She gave birth to the baby. And now she sex-works even harder than before to support her baby without any help from the father of the baby.This prejudice is more than just misunderstanding. Many Thais see light skin color as attractive and dark skin color as unattractive. And of course many Indians have dark skin color.I've seen some Indian men go to massage parlours in Pattaya. And they seemed to be happy when they came out.Perhaps if you pay the lady well and don't ask her to do anything risky in terms of pregnancy and health. Then she will respond well to you and let you have some fun with her. It's all a matter of being persuasive enough. And giving the lady some extra money as a way of introducing yourself will certainly go a long way to persuade her. Thank you very, very much for this outstanding explanation. You really opened my eyes, you opened a new world for me.

[Easy2007]

Excellent post, and great story. Its these kind of idiots, and the ones who walk out of bars without paying their bills who mess things up for the rest of us.Hopefully the photo will be passed around a few massage places, and this bloke will be refused entry.
I had made an appointment for one of my favorites at Angels and when I arrived she was not quite ready for me. I was a little annoyed until the fireworks started. A Japanese customer came down the stairs and he was pretty agitated. He kept saying: "she don't ask me for special". He even addressed me to try and gain my sympathy. I just looked at him and laughed.At first, I thought he was upset that he had not received the special service. However, he had screwed the girl, he just thought it was on the house since he didn't state that he wanted the special. I found this to be pretty funny. No massage parlor girl is going to screw you and not expect to get paid, you have to be an idiot to think otherwise. George Clooney could walk in there and not get free pussy.An argument played out between him and the mamasan. Him, adamantly stating: "she no ask me for special", and her stating: "why don't you stop her, if you no want sex". He proceeded to threaten to post his experience on the Internet and that she would have no customers. What do you think? You think he is not going to get flamed and laughed off any Japanese board of mongers who have been to Angels? Someone had retrieved the condom at this point, which was a bit gross, to prove that he had screwed the girl. He never denied that obviously, so this was just added mayhem.I had been sitting on the couch by the door and soon he came down and sat near me on the chair right by the door. I think he was angling to make a run for it, but soon all the girls from the bullpen area came out and blocked the door. After a while, and many heated exchanges, the Mamasan came down to 2000 Baht and he finally agreed to pay, probably realizing he was going to have a hard time getting out the door. At this point he started to leave, but another Mamasan came over with a camera to take his photo at the same time. He was half way out the door and they grabbed him, he struggled and one of the girls kicked him in the ass as he got away.This was definitely one for the mongering memoirs. Who says Thai women are passive? There was a whole mob of them ready to kick this guys ass.

[Tiger 888]

I was being Sarcastic, obviously, I failed LOLI usually give 500 as a minimum if the performance was good, and 50 to the maid.Of course I know that you have been sarcastic. Still I couldn't resist this comment. I should have quoted the OP's post instead of yours. I have fixed that.

[MilesToGo]

.....cut...... This was definitely one for the mongering memoirs. Who says Thai women are passive? There was a whole mob of them ready to kick this guys ass.maybe there is more than what meets the eyes in this report --perhaps this was his total fantasy, what is he doing right now with those memoirs????

[M P Lurker]

On Rama 9 freeway today passed the tall thin Chai Lai (Soapy building) on the right. Its just before Colonze 1 on the left. It had a great big banner up:Colonze 4 ("ko-loan-Say see" in Thai)"look at me".So looks like Chai Lai is to be renamed Colonze 4 (its part of Colonze group) if I intrepreted correctly.If thats the case, potentially Nancy may become Colonze 3.The Soap MPs Map has been updated to show thatthat Nancy is now also known as Colonze 3 and Chai Lai as Colonze 4.I am yet to go into Colonze 4 (Chai Lai) but will check it out in 2 or 3 weeks.Soapy MPs Map (http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ll=13.755643,100.575628&spn=0.124386,0.22934&z=13&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b)

[Enjoy58]

I can believe there is some prejudice in Thailand against Indian people. Some of it is based on misunderstanding. I had to argue with my Thai lady some time ago when she said that all Indians are muslims. She had some encounters with Bangladeshis and Pakistanis. And she confused them with Indians because of similar looks.But the reason why she had something against men who looked like Indians was because a female friend of hers at a Pattaya bar got pregnant from such a man when he persuaded her to have unprotected sex with him. This friend of hers for one reason or another didn't have an abortion. She gave birth to the baby. And now she sex-works even harder than before to support her baby without any help from the father of the baby.This prejudice is more than just misunderstanding. Many Thais see light skin color as attractive and dark skin color as unattractive. And of course many Indians have dark skin color.I've seen some Indian men go to massage parlours in Pattaya. And they seemed to be happy when they came out.Perhaps if you pay the lady well and don't ask her to do anything risky in terms of pregnancy and health. Then she will respond well to you and let you have some fun with her. It's all a matter of being persuasive enough. And giving the lady some extra money as a way of introducing yourself will certainly go a long way to persuade her. I am an Indian who has been visiting Thailand for the last 8 years. I have faced no discrimination, except once a very cute girl was very hesitant to do LT with me. But she finally agreed and later stayed with me for 4 more days, took me to her place in Bangkok and travelled with me to Patteya, which she proposed.When I subsequently asked her regarding her hesitation, she said that her one past experience with an Indian was not satisfactory, as the person was very crude.Well, all nationalities come with their weirdos. Please treat the Lady well and you will get excellent response. And money is often not the only motivator.

[M P Lurker]

I was being Sarcastic, obviously, I failed LOLI usually give 500 as a minimum if the performance was good, and 50 to the maid.No failure, I think we got it, despite the lack of a smilie/emoticon of some sort.We can see from your numerous reports that you are willing pay extra but only AFTER receiving the great service. You are not noted for being willing to risk high sums before the service is provided, which is fair enough.I am willing to take a moderate gamble but prefer to repeat with really great girls as much as possible so that really disappointing sessions become a rare thing.RCA appears to have that gamblers syndrome of being addicted to losing, by continually paying out very high sums that have a good probability of not being good or worth it.Diverging:At LL Sports bar, someone specially asked a girl with mini skirt to get up on a table top, and do a really sexy dance (not nude). Anyway, my jaw dropped when he tipped her 20 Baht. I think she had to control herself rather than throw it at him. I was an irrelevant bystander but I thought I better chip in another 100 Baht out of embarassment.No one else chipped in though.

[SE Asia Joe]

For those who've never been to a Bangkok Sauna - herewith picture of the fishbowl at Bangkok CozySE Asia Joe

[M P Lurker]

For those who've never been to a Bangkok Sauna - herewith picture of the fishbowl at Bangkok CozySE Asia JoeI would describe it as a Soapy (Turkish Bath) fishbowl (aquarium) even though there are no fish :)I don't usually refer to Turkish Baths as "Saunas" as have never been in a Sauna at such a "Soapy" venue.Do they actually have a Sauna? Are Saunas popular in Thailand? Can't imagine why they would be. Isn't the outside weather a Sauna anyway? German FKK clubs usually have saunas which are used by both customers and the girls, but I don't understand the desire to get cooked.

[M P Lurker]

I had made an appointment for one of my favorites at Angels and when I arrived she was not quite ready for me. I was a little annoyed until the fireworks started. A Japanese customer came down the stairs and he was pretty agitated. He kept saying: "she don't ask me for special". He even addressed me to try and gain my sympathy. I just looked at him and laughed. Did he think he was such a spunk that he would maybe get a freebie? LOL :D

[SE Asia Joe]

I would describe it as a Soapy (Turkish Bath) fishbowl (aquarium) even though there are no fish :)I don't usually refer to Turkish Baths as "Saunas" as have never been in a Sauna at such a "Soapy" venue.Do they actually have a Sauna? Are Saunas popular in Thailand? Can't imagine why they would be. Isn't the outside weather a Sauna anyway? German FKK clubs usually have saunas which are used by both customers and the girls, but I don't understand the desire to get cooked.Got me there!! OUCH!!Too used to China where we have Massage Parlours referred to by the locals as being Saunas! Or rather - Sau Las!So the correct terminology for LOS would be a Soapy Fishbowl - right??(or perhaps bowels for some of the crappy places?)SEAJ

[M P Lurker]

Thank you very, very much for this outstanding explanation. You really opened my eyes, you opened a new world for me.Do I likewise detect a wink here, since you seem to be an expert on MPs and Thai girls? ;)Maybe you could write us a little dissertation for us on modes of behaviour to overcome Thai predudice about Indians, or have you done this already? Well are there any special measures that are not completely obvious ones?

[NicFrenchy]

Diverging:At LL Sports bar, someone specially asked a girl with mini skirt to get up on a table top, and do a really sexy dance (not nude). Anyway, my jaw dropped when he tipped her 20 Baht. I think she had to control herself rather than throw it at him. I was an irrelevant bystander but I thought I better chip in another 100 Baht out of embarassment.No one else chipped in though.Sad story, really. I would also have given her something for the show if it was enjoyable. I never would have guessed that the LL had cheap charlies LOL, Maybe it's time for Giotto to increase the prices a little more (That's a joke, don't kill me guys)

[Greatall]

Got me there!! OUCH!!Too used to China where we have Massage Parlours referred to by the locals as being Saunas! Or rather - Sau Las!So the correct terminology for LOS would be a Soapy Fishbowl - right??(or perhaps bowels for some of the crappy places?)SEAJToo be more precise, massage palours in LOS are divided into (i) Soapies and (ii) Oilys :) I guess the names says it all on what the massage involves the usage of.

[Satrai2000]

For those of you interested in steam-bathsI have been a few times to Rajadamri Spa, located behind Big C, Thanon Rajadamri. You can take a 2 hour package consisting of scrub, oil massage and a mini steam bath. It's a mini-steam bath because actually it's a kind of box, closed on all sides, only your head sticks out.At the end of the massage the lady gives you a hj; actually I did not expect this to happen in such a spa.The massage ladies are not attractive, rather old. However, there are some cute darlings at the reception.

[TimTimGuy]

Maybe it's time for Giotto to increase the prices a little more (That's a joke, don't kill me guys)I wouldn't kill you, but the idea of maiming you crossed my mind!Seriously, Giotto knows he has a good thing going.- a great thing, in fact.- but prices are near the limit. I'm not a "cheap Charlie", trust me. Or, ask the girls in the sports bar! I would visit tonight if I could and pay a heckuva lot more than the going rate. Too much ocean between me and that dream, unfortunately.I want to visit in July and will gladly correct the undertipping for dances on tables. Sigh!

[M P Lurker]

Too be more precise, massage palours in LOS are divided into (i) Soapies and (ii) Oilys :) I guess the names says it all on what the massage involves the usage of.Precise? These terms are very loose euphemisms at best.I prefer to refer to Oilies as "Massage Shops" as the establishment usually has a shop like front with something for sale and usually has some form of massage. Oil Massage is usually available.Often Thai Traditional Massage also available (Nuat Paen Boraan)"Soapies" are known as "Aap Op Nuat" in Thai (Clean, Heat & Massage) and "Turkish Bath" is probably the closest we get in English.Some of them are just called "Entertainment Complexes" to cover Karaoke, dance and stage entertainment provided in addition to baths, sex and massage. Of course only some of the Soapy girls know how to massage.

[SE Asia Joe]

Precise? These terms are very loose euphemisms at best..You guys.... methinks that all of us here probably got toooooo much time on our hands..... talkin' about precise terminology etc.!!!!!You know what, last time I made a similar remark, I really got skewered. Skewered!! Please please.... show me that you guys on the Thailand threads are more forgiving and with a touch of humour!!!yeah yeah yeah!!!SEAJPs. OH WOW!!!! I just now noticed that this is my 700th post. How appropriate. Another one of my totally useless post... the 700th!!

[M P Lurker]

You guys.... methinks that all of us here probably got toooooo much time on our hands..... 2 weeks will change that. Will be back in BKK.

[Boy Toy]

visited akane (soi 3)twice as a part of annaual trip, will like to say this probably is the best massage experience and the girls are willing to please on my first instance i had chosen fashion massgae (s3), with haru (she looks better in person), gave excellent service and good bath, later was joined by another girl who later i saw was the cashier at the reception the next time i came, she was not a loooker, came in put on a condom and blew my load in minutes, was hoping it would have lasted more, however the experience with haru was excellent she was a good looking fair girl with a very nice and pleaseing attitude, something i feel is missing at all soapies, all the girls i the line up seem very willing to please, tipped both 100 b, and left, returned after 10 days at 12:30 in the morning with two other frends and the establishment was already quite full with both ladies and customers, since my friends were visiting the place for the first time, i gave them the first choice my first friend chose hiro (she looks amazing i envied my friend hope she had been with me) and rika (who he said had good boobs) hiro even gave him a bbbj in the bath, probably becuse he and i chose vip course in the peep inn hotel much better than the fashion massge girls do more here, no use of condom at all, always chose this one, it is much better and where else do you get 2 women for 2600 b, good really i was given the similar good treatment, my contenders were yui and ilyn (who apparently is the singing sensation of akane, kept singing all the while in the tub, shower and on the bed), the experince was great was offered 2 shots, came back totally contended, my 2nd friend went for the fashion massage with haru as my recoomendation, came back very content, overall each of my friends were very happy came back laughing and giggling, friends this the place i would reccomend for thre mornings, start your day with a bang enjoy yourself.cheerseditor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Bnlee2]

For those who've never been to a Bangkok Sauna - herewith picture of the fishbowl at Bangkok Cozy.SE Asia JoeI remember going to the infamous Mona Lisa MP in Bangkok and seeing their fishbowl. I was like a kid in a candy store and looking at all the yummy all around. It took me over thirty minutes just to decide. That was over fifteen years ago in the early nineties.Have fun. Heading back to China next month.

[Run Mann]

Visited akane (soi 3)twice as a part of annaual trip, will like to say this probably is the best massage experience and the girls are willing to please on my first instance I had chosen fashion massgae (s3), with Haru (she looks better in personAkane is actually on Soi 33, not Soi 3 and although they are both superior service-oriented shops, I prefer Akane Chitlom but have received excellent service at both locations.

[NicFrenchy]

my first friend chose hiro (she looks amazing i envied my friend hope she had been with me) and rika (who he said had good boobs) hiro even gave him a bbbj in the bath, probably becuse he and i chose vip course in the peep inn hotel hiro is a star, see my previous report with her (with photos) ;)http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=714651&postcount=3662

[Daddy San]

visited akane ....... hiro even gave him a bbbj in the bath, probably becuse he and i chose vip course in the peep inn hotel much better than the fashion massge girls do more here, no use of condom at all,.... i don't want to start yet another bb dicussion. it is everyone's own decision to play russian roulette. what bothers me, is that those who decide not to gamble, are actually being forced to take similar risks (and without enjoying the undeniably superior pleasures). it's just like passive smoking! that's why i try to avoid the places/girls who, to my best knowledge, go bb. so akane is off my list! pitty, misato was great...

[Run Mann]

I don't want to start yet another BB dicussion. It is everyone's own decision to play russian roulette. What bothers me, is that those who decide not to gamble, are actually being forced to take similar risks (and without enjoying the undeniably superior pleasures). It's just like passive smoking! That's why I try to avoid the places/girls who, to my best knowledge, go BB. So Akane is off my list! Pitty, Misato was great...Daddy, Are you kidding? You should find a safe partner and live a monogamous life if you want to be safe. Anyone who partakes in mongering is playing Russian roulette. Don?t believe for a second that any of these places or girls are safe, some are just safer, BBBJ is not uncommon in Thailand.

[Punter 127]

Daddy, Are you kidding? You should live find a safe partner and live a monogamous life if you want to be safe. Anyone who partakes in mongering is playing Russian roulette. Don’t believe for a second that any of these places or girls are safe, some are just safer, BBBJ is not uncommon in Thailand.I agree but forget the safe partner, abstention is the only true safe sex. :eek:

[Seydlitz]

I don't want to start yet another BB dicussion. It is everyone's own decision to play russian roulette. What bothers me, is that those who decide not to gamble, are actually being forced to take similar risks (and without enjoying the undeniably superior pleasures). It's just like passive smoking! That's why I try to avoid the places/girls who, to my best knowledge, go BB. So Akane is off my list! Pitty, Misato was great...I always fail to see that logic. The fact that other men do not practice safe sex might increase the risk of MSTs to the working girls, but NOT to the responsible safe sex practitioner.It seems logical to assume that irresponsible behaviour of other punters is only a concern to the punter who would love to be the only one going bareback and engaging in otherwise unsafe and irresponsible sexual practices, p4p or otherwise.

[NicFrenchy]

So Akane is off my list! Pitty, Misato was great...Great, one Less customer to worry about LOL (ok only Kidding)Misato IS great and very service oriented :)The rest of your post has Nothing to do in this Thread, there is a SAFE SEX IN THAILAND thread for the Bareback discussions. you can find it here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1035&page=1 Thanks

[NicFrenchy]

Akane's old Url is no longer working, they have revamped their website and you can find the new link here: http://www.pink-project.com/akane/english/

[Krum Lov]

Hi guys, Any action (BJ bars, happy-ending massages etc) close to Suvarnabhumi Airport? I will be in transit and have about 3 hrs to spare.Cheers.

[Daddy San]

It seems logical to assume that irresponsible behaviour of other punters is only a concern to the punter who would love to be the only one going bareback and engaging in otherwise unsafe and irresponsible sexual practices, p4p or otherwise. I agree, that probably most punters nurture that kind of romantic fantasy/dream which is a potentially deadly falacy.I tend go "semi-steady" with my p4p providers, i.e. on a non-exclusive basis. When I find one I really like and where the sympathy seems mutual, I return many times, often over years. I have 2-3 such "Faves" in each of the countries I travel to regularly and visiting all each time, does tend to stretch my "resources". What I am getting at is this: Over the past 20 years, I cannot remember a single one, who after several visits did not offer or even "demand" BB sex, which I politely decline. I have no illusions, that they do not offer similar perks to other steady customers. It's happened to me in BKK on the the 3rd visit of one of the top providers, much praised in this forum (my "fucking miracle"). But I guess the HIV-awareness in LOS is not that high.I'ts happened to me again only this week in Prague, where the offer was actually repeated after having been very gently declined on my last visit.I am not a Romeo and could have grandfathered most of these women, so these recuring offers are good for my pride, but in fact it is really very sad!

[NicFrenchy]

It looks like Miss Apple (formerly Aviva) is now working at Luxury Massage (sukh Soi 19) as I saw her in the Luxury Massage Book earlier this week.For those who don't know, I have had bad experiences with her in the past at Aviva adn some other people as well so it looks like she is quite a Rotten Apple after all.Feel free to try her and report back.

[Marad39]

HiI need help from the experienced seniors.I will be in BKK this month end. I will be able to spare 3-4 hours in the evening and may be few hours in the night.I have dreams to visit one of those soapy massages (fish bowl girls). Can you kindly suggest a couple of good quality names of massage parlours? Also wants to visit those shows where live sex is performed, in addtion to many other actions. Can any one suggest few names here also?Thanks in advance...

[Satrai2000]

HiI need help from the experienced seniors.I will be in BKK this month end. I will be able to spare 3-4 hours in the evening and may be few hours in the night.I have dreams to visit one of those soapy massages (fish bowl girls). Can you kindly suggest a couple of good quality names of massage parlours? Also wants to visit those shows where live sex is performed, in addtion to many other actions. Can any one suggest few names here also?Thanks in advance...There is no such thing like a "bad quality massage parlour". So just choose one or more of the dozens of MP's listed in this forum.You can follow this link: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701187&postcount=3416

[M P Lurker]

I have dreams to visit one of those soapy massages (fish bowl girls). Can you kindly suggest a couple of good quality names of massage parlours? The best place for a large selection of YOUNG girls is Nataree.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701177I don't often go there myself as most of the girls have ordinary faces to my taste and I probably prefer a slightly older girl. Other places not far away from Nataree that you could also have a look:Emmanuelle, Colonze 2, Copa Cabana, Poseidon, Hi Class. Be aware that often the best girls will be already upstairs at the moment that you arrive. Waiting around for a while can allow you to see some hotter/prettier girls coming out.Don't go late at night or you will find only the least desirable girls remaining, but very few (if any)! I have mentioned my favourite places many times before.

[M P Lurker]

Hi guys, Any action (BJ bars, happy-ending massages etc) close to Suvarnabhumi Airport? I will be in transit and have about 3 hrs to spare.Cheers.Being a Soapies person, I would probably try Tarawadee which is about 2km from Airport expressway entrance/exit and about 15km from the airport. If not near peak hour, the expressway can be very fast. Tarawadee is significantly East of normal mongering places, not quite half way to the airport but probably can be reached from airport in half the time would take to get to Nana Plaza.There will be a massage place at the airport. I don't know any details, but this sort of question has been asked before so do a search of the ISG.

[Marad39]

Hi MLYou are too good man, the whole report is like a very big efforts by you and must have spent tons of time and commitment to write. Thanks a load for the info and I will sure repay this by a field report once I am done with...Take careAny idea about those live sex shows and other items they show?Cheers
The best place for a large selection of YOUNG girls is Nataree.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701177I don't often go there myself as most of the girls have ordinary faces to my taste and I probably prefer a slightly older girl. Other places not far away from Nataree that you could also have a look:Emmanuelle, Colonze 2, Copa Cabana, Poseidon, Hi Class. Be aware that often the best girls will be already upstairs at the moment that you arrive. Waiting around for a while can allow you to see some hotter/prettier girls coming out.Don't go late at night or you will find only the least desirable girls remaining, but very few (if any)! I have mentioned my favourite places many times before.

[Marad39]

Hi SatraiThanks a lot for the info, the link leads me to a well written write with complete info for a new person in BKK.Take care and I will put a report once I am done with...Cheers
There is no such thing like a "bad quality massage parlour". So just choose one or more of the dozens of MP's listed in this forum.You can follow this link: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=701187&postcount=3416

[M P Lurker]

Any idea about those live sex shows and other items they show?CheersGo to "Bangkok Reports" thread, Click on "Search this thread" on top right side. In the search box that opens try typing "sex show"with the quotes and see what happens.

[Marcusbkk]

Anyone had any experiences with Rajdamri Spa? http://bkk2000.com/rspa/There are vague references to extras being available on other sites but nothing definite.Thanks in advance.

[Satrai2000]

Anyone had any experiences with Rajdamri Spa? http://bkk2000.com/rspa/There are vague references to extras being available on other sites but nothing definite.Thanks in advance.See my post:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=740668&postcount=4102You can also do a search from the menu-bar.

[Satrai2000]

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[Fon Tok]

What do you do in Bangkok on a Friday afternoon at 3pm after an entertaining and educational visit to the Red Cross "Snake Farm?" Answer: Wander over to JC Infinity Massage for a bubble bath and a good time!This was my first time to a Bangkok "soapie." Many thanks to Mick, Nic, and the rest of the ISG krewe for piquing my curiosity, and providing important directions and tips. JC is a short walk from the newly modernized "Snake Farm." Just jaywalk across Rama IV and cut through the Montien Hotel parking lot. JC is past the hotel on the right. Ride up the escalator and a greeter guides you to the left. JC's lobby is a cavernous, welcoming place with a very large and well-lit "fishbowl."Sensing a newbie, when asked about prices, the papasan said 3000 baht. Sensing a farang surcharge, I asked, "is there a 2500 baht selection?" He said that the price varied for the available girls ? ?2500 and 3000 baht?. After an iced coffee and about 10 minutes of watching 10 pretty, well-endowed women interact and move around, I selected a sweet-looking, quiet girl (Anne) sitting alone in the back row. The price was 2500 baht at the register (reading ISG reports saved me 500 baht).Anne is very pretty. She has a curvaceous body, beautiful jet black hair, and a lovely face. After paying, the trip up the elevator to the clean, spacious room was pleasant enough. Hoping to break the ice, I spoke a little Thai, she spoke a little English. She said she was 23. and was surprised a farang would choose a lady with such light white skin. I said I thought she was "suai," etc.The bubble bath was very pleasant. I love the sweetness that Thai women exude when they bathe a man. Moving onto the bed, I was horny and wasn't expecting a GFE. The sex was pleasant, albeit, less than enthusiastic (DATY, a brief BBBJ, a few different positions). Anne was a little mechanical with her service but my expectations were not very high based on ISG reports. Nevertheless, I enjoyed it for what it was. After I "finished" and Anne showered me, I relaxed on the bed while she gave me a gentle, languorous massage that was a pleasant follow-up. Before leaving the room, I tipped her 500 baht. On the way out she gave me 100 baht to give to the papasan (I had forgotten this recommended protocol at the counter on the way in -- my bad).All in all, not a bad Friday afternoon. A visit with the King and a bubble bath with a young Thai princess. Next time though, at JC Infinity, I think will pick the little ?brown? girl with the big smile, perky breasts, and a mischievous look in her eyes. Ah, Thailand!EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Easy2007]

Pleased to report that a new larger photo book is in in use, with photo that are more "up to date".Also, a number of new girls in the line up.On levels of consistency, its hard to beat, although the line up was a bit of a downer sometimes, well, some new faces there now.

[Marcusbkk]

See my post:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=740668&postcount=4102You can also do a search from the menu-bar.Many thanks, I have searched everywhere but not much information. I will check it out over the weekend and make a report.

[Gfighta]

I've had June before and I can second everything the previous posters wrote. She's a lot of fun and really enthusiastic. Does anal too if you want.

[Marad39]

Hi Seniors,Thanks for the support provided last week on the soapy massages in Bangkok. Now it is decided that I will in the area called "Khet Pathumwan". My hotel will be booked around this area where I have couple of business meetings. Can you guys please let me know which soapy massage is nearby in this area? I checked the link provided earlier but I can not get this area anywhere. Also checked the google maps, and it seams that this area falls in siam square ? Please guide me so that I can use my minimum time for the maximum benefit and sure I will put out a nice and true report after doing my deed.Cheers

[Traveler1234]

Hi Seniors,Thanks for the support provided last week on the soapy massages in Bangkok. Now it is decided that I will in the area called "Khet Pathumwan". My hotel will be booked around this area where I have couple of business meetings. CheersNot familiar with the area and suggest you go to Mick Licker's posts. He set up a great google map and this should tell you what's around your hotel and area.

[1Ball]

The Phatumwan hotel is attached to MBK. Siam BTS is minutes away. From there, you can get pretty much anywhere you want to get to, with relative ease. Nana is 10 minutes away, Cowboy 15. Soapies all over the place. As T1234 suggests, go to Mick's map and reports, and you will find anything you like up and down Sukhumvit.

[M P Lurker]

Hi Seniors,Thanks for the support provided last week on the soapy massages in Bangkok. Now it is decided that I will in the area called "Khet Pathumwan". My hotel will be booked around this area where I have couple of business meetings. Can you guys please let me know which soapy massage is nearby in this area? I checked the link provided earlier but I can not get this area anywhere. Also checked the google maps, and it seams that this area falls in siam square ? Please guide me so that I can use my minimum time for the maximum benefit and sure I will put out a nice and true report after doing my deed.CheersFuther to 1Ball's comments, Pathumwan is the district including Sa-yaam (Siam) Center, Siam Paragon, MBK (Mah Boon Khrong), Suan Lum (Lumphini Park) Night Bazaar, etc.Here is the Soapies map.Pathumwan should right in the middle:http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.748973,100.540352&spn=0.047772,0.090294&z=14Soapy MPs on the very edge of Pathumwan are: Versailles, Infinity JC, Sao Botan. Can use the BTS to get to first two if you are near a BTS station.Some of the more popular Soapies are somewhat further away as you can see on the Map.Wikipedia defines the boundaries nicely.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_Pathum_Wan.pngTo find a Hotel in Pathumwan on the Google Maps,there is a search box on the top left. Type the name of your hotel, like this:******* Hotel Pathumwan, Bangkokand click on the Search Maps button.Alternatively leave out the stars (representing Hotel Name) to get lots of different Hotel markers (after clicking next page a few times).Please bear in mind that many markers are incorrectly placed.So when you find say 15 markers all for Pathuwan Princess, some will be wrong, but majority will cluster on the correct place just south of MBK Center.

[Mauldid]

I've had June before and I can second everything the previous posters wrote. She's a lot of fun and really enthusiastic. Does anal too if you want.She offered that hole and I did partake. I slid in with no problem. Sorry left that part out.

[Satrai2000]

Mick Licker,Once again: great map!What about adding Embassy in Petchaburi soi 39 (right hand side coming from the main-road; about in the middle of the soi).

[Pillage]

Anyone had any experiences with Rajdamri Spa? http://bkk2000.com/rspa/There are vague references to extras being available on other sites but nothing definite.Thanks in advance.Hi,I'm a first time poster on this forum and have recently left BKK after living there a while.Re Rajdamri Spa, have been there quite a few times over the last couple of years. Had FS twice, body massages and CBJs on other occasions and simple HJs the rest. Oil massages are 700THB for 90 minutes and std prices apply for extras.Some girls are more up for it than others, and they usually select girls for you if you can't remember numbers from last time. Some girls are quite old. I usually reject them (politely) when they come to the room and ask for younger talent.Hope this helps.

[Satrai2000]

Has anybody any experiences at Homm Aromatherapy Massage Club.It's located at Sukhumvit Soi 26 next to Sopranos.http://www.hommbangkok.com/eng/home.php

[Forever69]

Went there, had a beer and tried to make a selection, the management pretty pushy so that eventually the girls got up and left the fishbowl. I noticed that the girls looked much better when not behind glass and took Ann (? ) a slim, young 26, childless. Tight and fun. She said she was partied out from the night before and how could I pick her since she didn't look lively in the bowl. I told her she was beautiful, which she is. She was very pleasant and gave great service inside the tub and out all the way to the front door. Bargain deluxe. I'll be back.

[M P Lurker]

Has anybody any experiences at Homm Aromatherapy Massage Club.It's located at Sukhumvit Soi 26 next to Sopranos.http://www.hommbangkok.com/eng/home.phpHomm หอม means fragrant or aromatic. I would spell it "hawm".Nothing to do with men or homos.

[M P Lurker]

Mick Licker,Once again: great map!What about adding Embassy in Petchaburi soi 39 (right hand side coming from the main-road; about in the middle of the soi).I have never investigated Embassy and for some reason assumed that it was long ago closed like Atami, for example .It seemed to be listed only on web-sites noted for out of date info.Have you been there recently and confirmed that it is worth listing?http://www.soapy-massage.com/embassy-massage-new-petchaburi-bangkok.html#Embassy_Massage_Parlor_&_Turkish_Bath_House_-_New%A0PetchaburiI suppose I could just ring up and ask if they are operating.

[Gfighta]

Today I was in the area and had a few hours to kill midday so I decided to walk around and see what was available. I haven't spent much time in and around the PP area so I don't really know what's open during the day. I walked past the Plaza massage and saw that it was open so I decided to see what was inside. I usually stick to soi 33 or cowboy and the few times I've been to PP I haven't been impressed with the attractiveness ladies but walking in I was pleasantly surprised to see 5-6 very attractive ladies in the fishbowl. The papasan came over and apologized that he had so few ladies available. I asked about the price and he said the same as you paid before. That answer caught me off guard and he saw that and realized I was there for the first time so he quoted me 2000 THB for 2 hours. I countered with 1600 THB and we agreed on 1800 THB but I'm sure some of your sharper negotiators could probably get that lower.The girl came out and led me to the room which was another surprise as this was probably the cleanest massage room I have seen in BKK. The bed, couch, tub, lighting, everything looked spotless and almost hotel like. The service was pretty standard soapy stuff. The girl fills the tub, cleans you, on to the bed for massage and more. After I finished we still have an hour left and she asked if I wanted a second round. The funny thing is I was actually very tired and those damn hotel like pillows in the place made me want to take a nap! So I told her that she can watch TV and give me a foot massage while I slept for an hour. She laughed and thought that was the strangest thing ever but gave a decent foot massage and I nodded off. I know risky as hell but when I woke up and got dresses every Baht was still there. So if you're in the Patpong area I would recommend the Plaza massage. If you're coming off the BTS and walking towards Patpong I think it's off Patpong 2. Sorry the directions are more clear but I'm not really familiar with that area.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Satrai2000]

I have never investigated Embassy and for some reason assumed that it was long ago closed like Atami, for example.It seemed to be listed only on web-sites noted for out of date info.Have you been there recently and confirmed that it is worth listing? Well. Last time I was there was Februari 2008. And it should still be operating.B. T. W. : it's still listed at gdiary.com. Very popular with tax-drivers.
Homm? Means fragrant or aromatic. I would spell it "hawm". Nothing to do with men or homos. I know that, but "Homm" is the name of an (upmarket) spa in sukhumvit soi 26. I only wanted to know if anybody has experiences at this spa.

[Retired Army]

Very popular with tax-drivers.And, this is a good thing?

[M P Lurker]

Well. Last time I was there was Februari 2008. And it should still be operating.and ...? Come on - How many girls? Pretty? Young or Old? Was it good or waste of time? Prices start at?
B. T. W. : it's still listed at gdiary.com. Good point! That site is usually reasonably up to date.
Very popular with tax-drivers... in what sense popular? Taxi drivers get kick backs, or petrol money by taking a customer there, or the drivers themselves are serviced by the girls ?

[Retired Army]

.. in what sense popular? Taxi drivers get kick backs, or petrol money by taking a customer there, or the drivers themselves are serviced by the girls ?You can't blame the taxi drivers. Can you imagine how hard it is to make a living with the high price of fuel and low government mandated fares? I wouldn't want to be a taxi driver in BKK trying to support a family.

[Satrai2000]

and ...? Come on - How many girls? Pretty? Young or Old? Was it good or waste of time? Prices start at? Embassy, Petchaburi Soi 39.Rooms are old but spacious. Haggish room-maids. Awful papasans and mamasans. There should be a small fishbowl in there but I've never seen it. Only went to the (old) lounge area which had some 30 girls at nighttime. Prices for these girls started at about 2000Baht (that is: quoted to me!). I have seen pretty ones and not so pretty ones, most are young (20-25 years).Last time I was there I had a good session with a friendly and very beautiful girl who had the body of a latina! Personally I like the Ratchada MP's better. And remember: when you go there with a taxi you'll pay at least 500 Bht commission.

[NicFrenchy]

The girl no. 10 was reckon by mamasan ....Oh well, the girl was definitely above average interm of English communication for the trade and If they did not Change the numbers, #10 should be Miss NAM, with couple tatoos on her back? I had her last time and she was fantastic

[M P Lurker]

Embassy, Petchaburi Soi 39.Rooms are old but spacious. Haggish room-maids. Awful papasans and mamasans. There should be a small fishbowl in there but I've never seen it. Only went to the (old) lounge area which had some 30 girls at nighttime. Prices for these girls started at about 2000Baht (that is: quoted to me!). I have seen pretty ones and not so pretty ones, most are young (20-25 years).Last time I was there I had a good session with a friendly and very beautiful girl who had the body of a latina! Personally I like the Ratchada MP's better. And remember: when you go there with a taxi you'll pay at least 500 Bht commission.Thanks. Thats what I what to here rather than a teasing one liner.

[Sainter21]

Nice report. Yeah, I paid a visit there once on each of my first 4 trips to Bkk. The first time was great, one of the best mp's experiences that I've had. On each return visit, service slowly declined and on my last few visits, I didn't bother. Maybe, like everywhere, I just had some bad luck on my selections. Maybe I'll try again next visit. Thanks again for the good report.
Today I was in the area and had a few hours to kill midday so I decided to walk around and see what was available. I haven't spent much time in and around the PP area so I don't really know what's open during the day. I walked past the Plaza massage and saw that it was open so I decided to see what was inside. I usually stick to soi 33 or cowboy and the few times I've been to PP I haven't been impressed with the attractiveness ladies but walking in I was pleasantly surprised to see 5-6 very attractive ladies in the fishbowl. The papasan came over and apologized that he had so few ladies available. I asked about the price and he said the same as you paid before. That answer caught me off guard and he saw that and realized I was there for the first time so he quoted me 2000 THB for 2 hours. I countered with 1600 THB and we agreed on 1800 THB but I'm sure some of your sharper negotiators could probably get that lower.The girl came out and led me to the room which was another surprise as this was probably the cleanest massage room I have seen in BKK. The bed, couch, tub, lighting, everything looked spotless and almost hotel like. The service was pretty standard soapy stuff. The girl fills the tub, cleans you, on to the bed for massage and more. After I finished we still have an hour left and she asked if I wanted a second round. The funny thing is I was actually very tired and those damn hotel like pillows in the place made me want to take a nap! So I told her that she can watch TV and give me a foot massage while I slept for an hour. She laughed and thought that was the strangest thing ever but gave a decent foot massage and I nodded off. I know risky as hell but when I woke up and got dresses every Baht was still there. So if you're in the Patpong area I would recommend the Plaza massage. If you're coming off the BTS and walking towards Patpong I think it's off Patpong 2. Sorry the directions are more clear but I'm not really familiar with that area.EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[M P Lurker]

Thanks. Thats what I what to here rather than a teasing one liner.That was supposed to be:"That's what I want to hear, ..."Must have been called to board my flight.

[NicFrenchy]

Perhaps you would care to tell everybody in what way was Miss NAM fantastic? What was it that made her so good?I made a mistake, After looking at #10's picture I can guarantee it is not her. It is more like #14.Her name is Nam so you can just ask for her. Below is a report of my first encounter with her and I went back to see her 3 times since (obviously, she got better with time)http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=709282&postcount=406

[NicFrenchy]

Looking at the Akane Website it looks like a couple girls are gone: 33 Branch: No more MIKA and HOTARUChidlom Branch: MIKI is gonehttp://www.pink-project.com/akane/english/english_top.html Can anyone confirm?

[NicFrenchy]

I was curious about this place so I decided to pay them a visit a couple weeks ago: It is in the same parking lot area as Akane 33. Upon entering, you need to walk up a flight of stairs before arriving into a nicely done vestibule area with couches, coffee table adn large LCD TV. Very nice welcome from an older lady/mamasan who right away came to me with a glass of water and a cold towel (same same as Akane). I asked for the book and was given 2 books, a little messy overall as one book explains that the price is all inclusive and that the ladies are not allowed to ask for money as all is included.The prices are higher than Akane and the service levels are not clear. For example, the only course that they seemed to have available was a 2500 thb 90 minutes special whatever name massage and when I inquired about what was included, the mamasan was very evasive.I wanted to tell her that for 2,500 I could have a 2 ladies 90 minutes at Akane but did not bother. They had about 5 ladies in the book and 3 of them were said to be busy, leaving 2 not so great looking ones available.I politely excused myself and asked if I needed to pay something for the water and towel but they smiled at me and told me to please come again.The warm welcome was definitely a positive point for Nyan Nyan but they will need to review their Modus Operandi if they want to steal from Akane's Market Share, because from what I saw, Akane has nothing to worry about.http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010702

[NicFrenchy]

last week i paid a visit to thonglor 2 http://www.thonglormassage.com/index1.html to see if miss oil was available but as usual, she wasn't.i was the only customer and the mamasan brought me the catalogue, but i wanted to see the ladies in flesh so i asked to see the lineup of ladies available. there was about 10 of them and my eyes locked on jj http://www.thonglormassage.com/jj.html.she was happy i chose her and i was satisfied that she looked quite energetic but little did i know because, unbeknownst to me this was the last time i was going to smile during this session.1 hour oil and up we go.jj (forgot her thai name) is from issan and has an ok but not stunning body. i ask her to join me in the shower and she does without any complaints. once on the bed, i tell her i ma not interested in a massage and want to start with the special right away, she seems uncomfortable and tells me that this is the first time that a customer has asked this and she was not sure she could do 1 hour of sex. i explained that i liked to take my time and did not want to rush for a quick fuck on the last 15 minutes of our session (as it usually happends).the whole session was a disaster, she gave a quick bbbj and complained that i was too big and that she was going to "hurt". she applied a lot of ky both to her vagina and my penis and during sex, she would always position herself so that i could not penetrate her fully. i tried many positions but she would always block with her legs and the best i could do was enter half of my dick. i removed the condom and told her that either she let me screw her properly or gives me a bj. she happily agreed to do a bj. after a few minutes of sucking, she started a hj and would no longer suck, just rubbing er tits against my dick. i stopped her, told her that i was not interested in a hj and asked her to resume the bj. she had the audacy to tell me that "handjob is good, better than bj".i smiled, kept my cool and told her that a hj would only get her a 500 thb for the special. she told me that as we had sex it was going to be 1,500. i am not usually an asshole but this time i decided that i wasn't going to take that crap from her. i told her that if she wants the 1,500 then she has to let me have proper sex and not block me halfway, the choice was hers to make.she reluctantly proceeded to give me a bj and after a long 20 minutes, i came.i could see she was disappointed and she also could see i was not satisfied. i paid her 1,000 for the bj and she had the nerve to ask for a tip. she just stood there, looked at me and said "no tip?", this was enough for me to come out of my silence and tell her: "tip is for good service, you not good, i give you 1,000 but you only deserve 20thb for your attitude".i am not sure she understood everything but as i said it in a very casual (not angry) manner, she might not have got the message.the only positive about jj, is that upon leaving thonglor 2, it was pouring rain so she grabbed an umbrella, asked me to wait inside and went on soi 24 to get me a taxi. i was left speechless, how can such a bad service provider in the room be so serviceable?i thanked her for the cab and she asked me to come back again, i will certainly do so but, not to see her.

[Giotto]

...I could see she was disappointed and she also could see I was not satisfied. I paid her 1,000 for the BJ and she had the nerve to ask for a tip. She just stood there, looked at me and said "No Tip?", this was enough for me to come out of my silence and tell her: "Tip is for Good service, you not good, I give you 1,000 but you only deserve 20thb for your attitude"....NicFrenchy,Bravo! Everybody should act like this (though I believe that most of the girls will not get the message!)Thonglor 2 is somehow a strange place, the rooms are ok, selection is ok, they offer a variety of types of massage - but I never had a real good experience there up to now.Giotto

[M P Lurker]

....It was definitely more enjoyable than a 2130baht I spent at the Angel 22 on soi 24/1 which was the worst MP. That I have visited in BKK in term of facilities and girls services.If you look on the Map, you will see that Angel 26 is on Soi 24/1 (near Soi 26) and Angel 22 is near Soi 22.http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.731569,100.566992&spn=0.007358,0.011158&z=17

[M P Lurker]

NicFrenchy,Bravo! Everybody should act like this (though I believe that most of the girls will not get the message!)Thonglor 2 is somehow a strange place, the rooms are ok, selection is ok, they offer a variety of types of massage - but I never had a real good experience there up to now.GiottoEven though her massage was weak, I am still missing a girl from there. The sex was good. I mean to get back to her soon. Certainly won't bother with massage next time.See you tomorrow night or maybe the next morning.

[Dan7373]

You sound like Dr Phil LOL....Ooops! I didn't mean to reveal my real identity on the internet like this.

[Siam150]

I do not often post but I agree with other members about Bangkok Cozy that it is a place not to be ignored. Mostly Thais visit this place but the staff is quite friendly to falangs and there is no upcharge. I have had the pleasure of several providers here and all have been good. I would suggest that Sa is quite good..a larger girl but well proportioned. She is tall and has huge tits, natural and her service is excellent. If you prefer a normal Thai girl Yu is excellent and enjoys bbbj for as long as you can last. You tell them both that I recommended them as I told them both I would post for them. If they forget tell them that I came with my good Thai friend the other day and we got a private suite with the two of them. Not to be missed and important that we visit these places so as not to lose them.

[Sosoi]

Hi All,This is my first post and I''m looking for some advice please. I have just moved to the Udom Suk Sri Makarin area and was wondering if anyone knows of any good oilies up that way, and plces for ladies.Udom Suk is full of karaokes and clubs, but are they farang friendly, and what about rates etc?Any info will be gratefully received,Cheers.

[NicFrenchy]

Matsutake Massage Soi 24/1 http://www.raku2.tv/ad/matsutakeNow has a VIP room and Claims to have Changed all its girls. They are now saying to be proud of having very service Oriented Young providers. Can anyone confirm?

[Ralph Kramden]

Siam150This was copied from another website concerning Bangkok Cozy. Would you say it is accurate? If so, it looks tempting.Bangkok Cozy Massage - 2368 New Petchaburi Road, next to a Toyota dealer. It is across the road from Soi Soon Vijai and the Hawaii and Riveria Massage parlours.Ph: 314-0731Comments: Sign in English as well as Thai. A mid-size place of about 40-50 girls in the fishbowl. It is fairly luxurious and also has large karaoke bar attached. The girls are divided into 3 sections, cost is 1,200, 1,500 or 1,700 baht. Sideline girls in the lounge area are 2,000 baht, while girls in the VIP room are 3,000 baht.

[Satrai2000]

Matsutake Massage Soi 24/1 http://www.raku2.tv/ad/matsutakeNow has a VIP room and Claims to have Changed all its girls. They are now saying to be proud of having very service Oriented Young providers. Can anyone confirm?In the past I went there quite a few times and always got "excellent service from service Oriented Oriental Young providers".

[ShadowJ]

Aside from Eden, where can I get a massage that includes an enthusiastic rimjob? I saw some reviews of Akane seem to suggest this is available. But I've also seen reports that say they use fingers... ouch! I've also seen mixed reports on Rin of Hana Massage (although it sounds like the service is only available to regulars). So, where is the best place to get AR with my massage? (I don't even care about FS).

[Siam150]

Siam150This was copied from another website concerning Bangkok Cozy. Would you say it is accurate? If so, it looks tempting.Bangkok Cozy Massage - 2368 New Petchaburi Road, next to a Toyota dealer. It is across the road from Soi Soon Vijai and the Hawaii and Riveria Massage parlours.Ph: 314-0731Comments: Sign in English as well as Thai. A mid-size place of about 40-50 girls in the fishbowl. It is fairly luxurious and also has large karaoke bar attached. The girls are divided into 3 sections, cost is 1,200, 1,500 or 1,700 baht. Sideline girls in the lounge area are 2,000 baht, while girls in the VIP room are 3,000 baht.Qutie accurate as I recall..think the highest inside girl is 1800 but no big deal...great out of the way place but be kind to the girls and low key as most Thais are that visit.

[M P Lurker]

Mick - take one for the team and tell us how it went?Well I have a full screwing schedule right now, but I might get to it if they have someone very cute.

[Johnthescot]

Does anyone know the name of the massage place to the left of Eden? Might even be next door? Has a nice open bar? Been a few times and had a beer but have never had a girl there. If you can give me the name I'll do a search on the site for reports.thanksJohnthescot

[TimTimGuy]

Mick,Let me tell you, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart, how much we all hate you! And I?m sure I speak for hundreds of readers.Just kidding, of course. Your field reports are great and make my day.TTG

[Bhudda Gonewrong]

Mick licker, Thanks for the info.Hey, I usally stay in China and they aren't as open about the sex in saunas. So that was why I asked about take out.If you had only 2 days in Bangkok, what MPs would you say I must try? You know, one that is safe for my wallet and passport and of course, one with great ladies and service.Again thanks for the info.

[M P Lurker]

Some of my plans for today got screwed due to girl has the flu, but always have plenty of backup plans.Went to Utopia today to see my regular Side Line girl for a GFE. She is getting a bit too close now (questions about my status and past with girls are starting), and performs no different to a real GF or perhaps better due to skilled blowjob. At 2.30 there were already 6 girls in the fish bowl and 8 on side line. SL swelled by 3 within a few minutes. When I cam out at 4.15PM, there were a good 16-18 girls in the fishbowl and nearly as many on sideline.Of the fish bowl girls I would say 2 were very pretty, and about 5 more doable. The rest were either ordinary or ugly.SL had about 2-3 pretty girls. A lot of girls were spoiled by nose jobs and tit jobs in my personal view but doesn't seem to worry most of the customers.Quite a wothwhile place for East Asians but expensive for Farangs. On the way home called into Thonglor 2 to book an out-take with a little cutie (who obviously fucks good) in the comfort of my room later on. Need to rest for a few hours first.

[Mark17]

Does anyone know the name of the massage place to the left of Eden? Might even be next door? Has a nice open bar? Been a few times and had a beer but have never had a girl there. If you can give me the name I'll do a search on the site for reports.thanksJohnthescotI forgot the name, but they offer massages, and you can see from the back they are connected to Eden. Not sure what it consist of the girl I talked to about it did into give much detail, and said it was not like eden.(plus she was not my type, just trying to get some info).Maybe Evil knows if they are run by the same owners?

[M P Lurker]

Does anyone know the name of the massage place to the left of Eden? Might even be next door? Has a nice open bar? Been a few times and had a beer but have never had a girl there. If you can give me the name I'll do a search on the site for reports.thanksJohnthescotThe Ring Fashion Massage (not sure if its good or not - maybe satrai2000 will know) is just after Eden I think and just before it is "Tharnthip Healthy and Massage"This photo says it all:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93400

[M P Lurker]

Mick,Let me tell you, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart, how much we all hate you! And I?m sure I speak for hundreds of readers.Just kidding, of course. Your field reports are great and make my day.TTGShall we call it "Diary of a sex addict"?

[M P Lurker]

I haven't had the pleasure of meeting any of the ladies you've mentioned. But I've checked out their pictures at Angel Massage website. And lady named 'Kristin' looks very interesting to me. The attitude she shows in that picture really stands out from the rest of the girls there.Her pretty smile looks inviting and sincere. And the way she strategically arranged that spectacular cleavage of hers leaves no doubt in any man's mind as to what she is inviting him to do with her.Gorgerous figure, pretty face. And she looks like someone who has a really good attitude in bed with the horny man. I'm very interested to know if she is as good in bed as that picture of hers so obviously suggests.Any reports about her I would greatly appreciate. She is definitely someone I'd like to get acquianted with, intimately that is.The bad news boys is that Kristin is gone.Looked too pretty and too hot to last long I guess.Did any ISG member have the pleasure of doing her?I'll just have to fall back to some other girl.

[Johnthescot]

The Ring Fashion Massage (not sure if its good or not - maybe satrai2000 will know) is just after Eden I think and just before it is "Tharnthip Healthy and Massage"This photo says it all:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93400Thanks"The Ring"?? Oh no sounds like one of Shadowj's weird stuff places again!Johnthescot

[NicFrenchy]

The bad news boys is that Kristin is gone.Looked too pretty and too hot to last long I guess.Did any ISG member have the pleasure of doing her?I'll just have to fall back to some other girl.Yes, unfortunately I knew this too and the mamasan told me she wasn't coming back. As I have never tried her, I can't say I am sad.Haven't been able to pick a girl from Angels in ages, despite a few visits: All the pretty ones are always busy.

[M P Lurker]

Yes, unfortunately I knew this too and the mamasan told me she wasn't coming back. As I have never tried her, I can't say I am sad.Haven't been able to pick a girl from Angels in ages, despite a few visits: All the pretty ones are always busy.Went to Angel 26 today. Similar problem.Kristen gone.Lisa (ex-Exclusive) on all day booking.Roma on holiday.Tip not there yetNicole busy.Wine (I forget what happened to her).Pan was the only one left who looked good to me in the computer enhanced pics. A slim type.Then name is pronounced like "bparn" not like "pan" at all.She came out in the flesh and was no stunning beauty, but figure was in good shape. Very small breasts, a few dark marks of edges of the face but acceptable to me. Her looks are not competing with my favourite soapy girls at all, but I decided to try her anyway, since impossible to get to any really pretty girls at Angel.She started off very silent as if not sure how to react to me. But later we warmed up to each other and a bit of light teasing banter started in Thai. She comes from Korat and claims to be 27. Her lotion massage was very good. Her blow job was also good but I made the mistake of changing to 69 which got her worked up quickly so that she wanted to screw already.The blow job was so good that I would have liiked some more of that first.However she was a superior screw too. So I had a good time. Started with cowgirl, then standard girl on top, then mish, then doggy, etc. All really feeling fabulous.Her pussy was just right for me. I don't like very tight or very short pussy (too hard to get it all in :D ).She seemed to be orgasmic but I can't be sure. Wasn't unmistakable wild spasms, so could have been faking or could have been real.So all in all, a very good session with Pan but she is just not quite pretty enough to get me really hooked.I still prefer girls with pretty faces or fab bodies (preferably both) even if they can't even massage properly.I find it easier to get a better looking girl at Thonglor 2 than at Angel to date.The problem with Angel in my opinion is that its impossible to book a pretty girl ahead sight unseen, because the photos are so unrealistic compared to the actual girls. So booking a girl off the photos would be a big gamble.But such a gamble might be the only way to get to the best girls unless you fluke it.As for Matsutake, that someone was suggesting to try, I seem to remember it was on a No-No list. I didn't even see it as I walked into Soi 24/1. Saw the other ones though like Rynda, Menthol, Happy, Lanna, Dara, etc. Perhaps I forgot the correct location.

[Mangofan]

find it easier to get a better looking girl at Thonglor 2 than at Angel to date.The problem with Angel in my opinion is that its impossible to book a pretty girl ahead sight unseen, because the photos are so unrealistic compared to the actual girls. So booking a girl off the photos would be a big gamble.But such a gamble might be the only way to get to the best girls unless you fluke it.This is why I stopped going to Angel. All the girls in that book have been photoshopped (some rather heavily). I walked in there a few months ago. Said I wanted to see three girls. They were stunning in the photographs. 3 monsters stepped out. I walked out of the place and haven't been back. They need to put proper pics of the girls in that photo book -- I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks we're being lied to by the photos.

[M P Lurker]

This is why I stopped going to Angel. All the girls in that book have been photoshopped (some rather heavily). I walked in there a few months ago. Said I wanted to see three girls. They were stunning in the photographs. 3 monsters stepped out. I walked out of the place and haven't been back. They need to put proper pics of the girls in that photo book -- I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks we're being lied to by the photos.At least at Aviva the girl I had was quite realistic to the photo. Might try a nice looking girl there soon who got a great recommendation from Nic too.Then I would be prepared to book her without actually sighting her first.

[Pointy Stick]

Yes it certainly has been covered.Come off it. Someone who has been on the forum for a long time and 68 reports should surely know how to browse a thread and how to search a thread or maybe even try thread tools.Did you notice a search box to the top right????Which I have dutifully used and have failed to come up with a definitive answer. Really, why do you even bother to post if you haven't got anything of value to say. Don't bother replying because you're on my ignore list so I won't have to be exposed to such a point waste of bandwidth again.

[Retired Army]

Which I have dutifully used and have failed to come up with a definitive answer. Really, why do you even bother to post if you haven't got anything of value to say. Don't bother replying because you're on my ignore list so I won't have to be exposed to such a point waste of bandwidth again.That's too bad. Mick Licker actually has some pretty informative posts.

[Traveler1234]

Which I have dutifully used and have failed to come up with a definitive answer. Really, why do you even bother to post if you haven't got anything of value to say. Don't bother replying because you're on my ignore list so I won't have to be exposed to such a point waste of bandwidth again.PS - with all due respect and no flame intended, you picked the wrong guy to put on your ignore list ;) Mick is probably THE expert on MP. His expertise and conributions (eg posts) have not been duplicated by anyone in the past few years. Many of us who know him personally can vouch for his MP voracity....LOLIf you did nothing else but read only his posts on this subject, you'd know more than needed about every damn soapie and oil joint worth visiting in Bkk. At one time I even asked whether his posts should be published!

[Traveler1234]

I am certainly pleased to be on someone's ignore list. It shows certain experience for someone to think of and do this.Such subtle sarcasm...ROFLMAOI know why you responded like you did to PS - you were too tired from the last 36 (or has it been 48) hrs and 5 TG ;)

[M P Lurker]

Such subtle sarcasm...ROFLMAOI know why you responded like you did to PS - you were too tired from the last 36 (or has it been 48) hrs and 5 TG ;)No, surely that has only put me in a good mood :DBut everyone must have a breaking point ...I look back fondly now to when I was new here and reported a bad experience with the papasan at Cupidy (didn't even book a girl), and you filled me in about Entertainment Plaza just round at the other entrance. Later I had a few good sessions at EP.But some of the old Soapy posters don't show up much now. Where is Meaty for example?

[Satrai2000]

The Ring Fashion Massage (not sure if its good or not - maybe satrai2000 will know) is just after Eden I think and just before it is "Tharnthip Healthy and Massage"This photo says it all:http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93400You're right, bro! I went there in 2006 or the beginning of 2007, forgot the exact month. Three girls were standing outside, one was inside. One of them plainly told me that she "would suck me for 1500 Baht" (all passers-by in the soi could hear this) but it seemed that including the massage and everything I would end up paying much more that this 1500 Baht.So. I only had a drink inside the bar and a very intellectual conversation in perfect English with another lady about the life and nightlife in Singapore (seemed she spent quite a few months in that city).

[AsiaTraveler2]

I had a chance to visit Poseidon and I must say that the lineup has either slipped down a few notches or they were very busy. Maybe both. I was late, around 9pm, and that's usually a no-no. There were only 15 to 20 girls in the fishbowl and about 10 girls in the bar area. As I was hungry and thirsty, I selected Nim? (I know I should have written it down) at the bar area. I got a few bites and a beer for 600 baht and change and off to the room we went. Very nice eyes, attractive, but a bit too thin for my tastes. Decent performance, very nice gal, but not a rock your world kind of girl. Won't repeat, but certainly don't regret spending time with her. Her price was B2,900 and I left her with a fair tip.Peace,AT2

[Johnthescot]

When you see a post by Mick Licker, click on his handle (user name) and select "find more reports by". A few months back, Mick posted the definitive guide to the Soapy scene and it lists all of the known MP's and info like the infamous Bodyslide's and who offers them. It's a dying art, even in BKK. I really think you need to rethink the Mick on the ignore list thing. All you need to know, you can gather, simply by going through all of his prior posts. AT2I agree his posts are legendary and when I first joined the site, even not being a newbie, within a few days I realised that he was the master of all info on MP. BUT why be so arrogant, rude and condescending about it. Probably the most prolific and well intended poster on the site, and I've certainly learned a lot from him and other senior members in my very short time on the site, even though I've been to Bangkok and Pattaya over 20 times. Maybe it's just a personal thing. I've always hated bullies since school. Guys that take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in front of their mates cause they know they will back them up. Luckily never had it myself but still I have never tolerated it either. There are a bunch of hangers on that are primed to jump into each others defence regardless of what was said. Do a search. It has happened time and time again. You guys that PM me know what I mean. The clique back each other up all the time.We are all (100% without exception) deviant sex tourist pervert prostitute addicts. Thats a pretty small club as far as I know (or maybe not). Think a bit more tolerance in the club is in order. So what if someone doesnt RTFF. I dont feel the need to comment on that. Only some people do. Very small group actually. Do a search (oh i forgot you dont know how to, You total fucking newbie twat, fcuk off and leave us senior members alone!! ML will point out the error of your ways though if you didn't realise) Either give the info requested or not. Or ignore the question. I personally dont see why some senior (and not so senior members) need to beat their chests and show they are the alpha males of the site. And anticipating the likely responses. - so fucking what if someone has posted a gazillion posts about rimming in GSpot in the toilets etc. That absolutely doesn't give them the right to be arrogant twats just cause they have been on the site longer than me.If I was sitting in a gogo bar in NEP or Walking Street and someone spoke to me the way some guys on this site think they can then I'd be amazed if they walked out the bar without a broken nose. Or worse!! Seriously!!! So I should just take their arrogant wanky comments just cos they have been going to that gogo bar for 2 years longer than me?? I dont think so. And I'd back up any guy that smacked them too :-) Same with the site. So easy on email, forums and SMS to just say what you want with no consequence. And admittedly sometimes it is taken out of context or seems to have more vehemence than was intended. A quick bit of text in response to an annoying question and a quick send without a reread can easily be taken in a much different way. Yeah yeah, you usual gang can all circle the wagons as usual ( and all my PMs know who that gang are) and say "BUT x posts the best posts about pissing on girls in the street etc" so you'd be missing out by putting him on your ignore list even though he has no social skills at all and we all like to be in the senior best buddy club" Thing is about a dozen PMs have already said who that little clique is. It's so obvious. I aint passing comment. Everyone knows. You can check it out on most of the forums here e.g. (try http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036). amazing. They'd argue with themselves just to prove a point. Oh and and why is someone such a prolific poster in that thread who blatantly doesn't do P4P now??? Bizarre!!Anyway just my ramblings on a boring Friday night with some beer a week before I head back to BKK!! Keep posting the info Mr Licker. Class. And I'll even buy you a beer to say thanks! Just dont tell me to RTFF!! :-)Johntheargumentativescot

[Traveler1234]

Maybe it's just a personal thing. I've always hated bullies since school. Guys that take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in front of their mates cause they know they will back them up. Luckily never had it myself but still I have never tolerated it either. There are a bunch of hangers on that are primed to jump into each others defence regardless of what was said. Do a search. It has happened time and time again. You guys that PM me know what I mean. The clique back each other up all the time.Keep posting the info Mr Licker. Class. And I'll even buy you a beer to say thanks! Just dont tell me to RTFF!! :-)JohntheargumentativescotAnyone who has ever personally met Mick knows he's a gentleman. I'm sure he had his reason for the RTFF post.As far as the comments re the 'clique' - it just happens that ever once in a while some of us leave this virtual world and meet up in the real world, and put a face to a handle. Many times we become 'friends'. To accuse someone to be a bully or act as group to protect one another is a little over the top.Nothing personal John - maybe we'll meet up, maybe we'll never meet up, who knows? Maybe you already think I'm a bully, again who knows or cares? In the meantime, to make sure we don't intentionally or unintentionally insult each other, I'll put you on my ignore list and you can do the same. No harm, no foul :D

[Johnthescot]

Anyone who has ever personally met Mick knows he's a gentleman. I'm sure he had his reason for the RTFF post.As far as the comments re the 'clique' - it just happens that ever once in a while some of us leave this virtual world and meet up in the real world, and put a face to a handle. Many times we become 'friends'. To accuse someone to be a bully or act as group to protect one another is a little over the top.Nothing personal John - maybe we'll meet up, maybe we'll never meet up, who knows? Maybe you already think I'm a bully, again who knows or cares? In the meantime, to make sure we don't intentionally or unintentionally insult each other, I'll put you on my ignore list and you can do the same. No harm, no foul :DI guess he must have thought I was talking about him!! some people have such guilty feelings :-)Fair enough!!Johnthescot

[Johnthescot]

I guess he must have thought I was talking about him!! some people have such guilty feelings :-)Fair enough!!Johnthescotup to you mate but think thats extreme. I haven't even put anyone on my ignore list yet and loads of people annoy me :-) And there was me going to buy you a beer and kiss and make up too. Guess I'll just have to keep them all for Mr L instead to make up for my rant!!Hey wait a minute just realised whhile typing this that I'm a senior member now.!! Yeeeehaaaaa!! Waheeeeyyy!! Get in There!!!!!RIGHT!!Fuck off!! In fact, fuck RIGHT off!! RTFF newbie scum!! I have licked more rims than everyone on this site!! Twice!! So there. My knob is bigger than yours!! Trust me :-) Learn to fcuking search!! have you never used the internet before you twat?? GHYFT!! (just made that one up to annoy the powers that be so dont bother looking in the abreviations!! :-)hee Hee!! Johnthenebriatedscotp.s. Do you think Traveler1234 will forgive me tomorrow when I'm sober and repentant? Hope so. Was just spouting my Scottish mouth off in frustration at having a week left to go till BKK!! :-)

[M P Lurker]

I'll try to stick to the best approach in future.That is answer the questions that interest me or people in general, if I know anything worthwhile that is, and ignore the boring, or silly questions, or those I simply don't know the answer, and leave them to someone else.

[Retired Army]

Thanks for that Retired Army. I'm sure your answer was more helpful than some of the high fiving, playground bully behaviour by the usual culprits!!CheersJohnthescotp.s. Just wish the wankers didn't give such useful information most of the time!!I'm not an expert on Thai massage parlours. I've been to a few, but don't really care for them all that much. They are a good place to go if you don't want to be seen and recognized in the regular areas you visit (like me because the thai wife has her sources of information). If I want "female company" for a while in BKK I go to the Pegagus Club. I have been a member for years.I just responded to the Newbie's question because I felt it was the right thing to do. When I was new to the forum I asked a question about the China World Hotel in Beijing and some Senior Asshole told me to RTFF. When I did, I found that my question had never been addressed before and there was no information available. Apparently none of the China experts had any experience with a five star hotel in Beijing.

[Inch15]

Do the girls in Sabai Sabai massage soi 11 take off the tops while giving hJ or BJ. tnx

[Cunning Stunt]

[QUOTE=Johnthescot] Hey wait a minute just realised whhile typing this that I'm a senior member now.!! Yeeeehaaaaa!! Waheeeeyyy!! Get in There!!!!!QUOTE]Congratulations mate, you can play with the big boys now, metaphorically speaking of course, you can leave my big boy alone:D.As to the rest of your posts - how dare you have a go at our 'master of the soapies' (and on his own thread as well!), didn't you know that he is a legend in his own lunchtime. Just because he a w*****, doesn't mean he is not a well informed wanker (OK fed up already of the asterisks, guess you know my opinion of Brucie). GHP.S I for one think that it doesn't have to be all dry as dust info sharing - some light hearted banter between the members adds to the fun.

[AsiaTraveler2]

I guess the best solution for all would be an upgrade to the ignore option. In addition to not seeing a members post, they would not be able to see your posts and that would solve everyone's problem. In essence, each member could decide who they want to be in the same room with.Unfortunately, this is a party that everyone can jump into and of course there will be personality conflicts. I'm not taking sides here, just tired of this bullshit that goes on sometimes. From both cliques, since there seems to be two of them.AT2

[Dreams]

I agree his posts are legendary and when I first joined the site, even not being a newbie, within a few days I realised that he was the master of all info on MP. BUT why be so arrogant, rude and condescending about it. Probably the most prolific and well intended poster on the site, and I've certainly learned a lot from him and other senior members in my very short time on the site, even though I've been to Bangkok and Pattaya over 20 times. Maybe it's just a personal thing. I've always hated bullies since school. Guys that take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in front of their mates cause they know they will back them up. Luckily never had it myself but still I have never tolerated it either. There are a bunch of hangers on that are primed to jump into each others defence regardless of what was said. Do a search. It has happened time and time again. You guys that PM me know what I mean. The clique back each other up all the time.We are all (100% without exception) deviant sex tourist pervert prostitute addicts. Thats a pretty small club as far as I know (or maybe not). Think a bit more tolerance in the club is in order. So what if someone doesnt RTFF. I dont feel the need to comment on that. Only some people do. Very small group actually. Do a search (oh i forgot you dont know how to, You total fucking newbie twat, fcuk off and leave us senior members alone!! ML will point out the error of your ways though if you didn't realise) Either give the info requested or not. Or ignore the question. I personally dont see why some senior (and not so senior members) need to beat their chests and show they are the alpha males of the site. And anticipating the likely responses. - so fucking what if someone has posted a gazillion posts about rimming in GSpot in the toilets etc. That absolutely doesn't give them the right to be arrogant twats just cause they have been on the site longer than me.If I was sitting in a gogo bar in NEP or Walking Street and someone spoke to me the way some guys on this site think they can then I'd be amazed if they walked out the bar without a broken nose. Or worse!! Seriously!!! So I should just take their arrogant wanky comments just cos they have been going to that gogo bar for 2 years longer than me?? I dont think so. And I'd back up any guy that smacked them too :-) Same with the site. So easy on email, forums and SMS to just say what you want with no consequence. And admittedly sometimes it is taken out of context or seems to have more vehemence than was intended. A quick bit of text in response to an annoying question and a quick send without a reread can easily be taken in a much different way. Yeah yeah, you usual gang can all circle the wagons as usual ( and all my PMs know who that gang are) and say "BUT x posts the best posts about pissing on girls in the street etc" so you'd be missing out by putting him on your ignore list even though he has no social skills at all and we all like to be in the senior best buddy club" Thing is about a dozen PMs have already said who that little clique is. It's so obvious. I aint passing comment. Everyone knows. You can check it out on most of the forums here e.g. (try http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036). amazing. They'd argue with themselves just to prove a point. Oh and and why is someone such a prolific poster in that thread who blatantly doesn't do P4P now??? Bizarre!!Anyway just my ramblings on a boring Friday night with some beer a week before I head back to BKK!! Keep posting the info Mr Licker. Class. And I'll even buy you a beer to say thanks! Just dont tell me to RTFF!! :-)Johntheargumentativescot...cyberspace.

[Johnthescot]

[QUOTE=Johnthescot] Hey wait a minute just realised whhile typing this that I'm a senior member now.!! Yeeeehaaaaa!! Waheeeeyyy!! Get in There!!!!!QUOTE]Congratulations mate, you can play with the big boys now, metaphorically speaking of course, you can leave my big boy alone:D.As to the rest of your posts - how dare you have a go at our 'master of the soapies' (and on his own thread as well!), didn't you know that he is a legend in his own lunchtime. Just because he a w*****, doesn't mean he is not a well informed wanker (OK fed up already of the asterisks, guess you know my opinion of Brucie). GHP.S I for one think that it doesn't have to be all dry as dust info sharing - some light hearted banter between the members adds to the fun.fuck off and RTFF etc etc. talking about your 'big boy', isn't it a bit disturbing that I've only known you for a few weeks and I've seen your dick already?? Normally I have to be waaaay better friends than that before I see someones dick!! :-)Johnthescot

[Johnthescot]

Ok now I'm in a sober hungover state maybe I was a BIT harsh last night. It's cyber-rage!!ML I apologise for my rant. I will buy you a beer if we ever bump in to each other. Stranger things have happened. I've bumped into guys I knew from UK in New York!!Love and kissesJohnthescot.

[Retired Army]

Do the girls in Sabai Sabai massage soi 11 take off the tops while giving hJ or BJ. tnxFor the right amount of money they will take off anything you want.

[AsiaTraveler2]

Do the girls in Sabai Sabai massage soi 11 take off the tops while giving hJ or BJ. tnxInch,Go with the takeout option. It costs about 100 or 200 baht more, but it is well worth it. I paid 900 baht for a 2 hour takeout. Since it was 2am and the girl clocked out at 5am, she was mine for the night. She stayed with me past 5am. The girls feel way more comfortable with the privacy. If you have not been to Sabai Sabai yet, you will find that the rooms are separated by a curtain only. You can hear everything that's being said in the next "booth", some of it can often be very entertaining.In the hotel room, I have had the "special", which is massage, bj, and fs (fully nude of course ;)). I just had one that was a great experience. Just shy of 30, so not a young pup, but attractive IMO. Nice bod, great hands and lips, etc., etc., etc. Did a body to body oil slide. Great fun!AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

I walked into Pasaya on my way to Poseidon. There were only 2 girls available and while they were ok in the looks department, they did not pique my interest with so many other options available in BKK. I asked the Papa-san some questions and it appears to be the standard oil massage setup. The website shows some very nice rooms, but I never got that far. Part of the Lord Group.Pasaya Massage website (http://www.pasayamassage.com/)AT2

[NicFrenchy]

Ok now I'm in a sober hungover state maybe I was a BIT harsh last night. It's cyber-rage!!It was about time. So now that you're a senior member, and sober, you can contribute something to the massage parlors section.I went to Luxury yesterday and the usual cashier was not there so I did not get the VIP Treatment (Coffee on arrival with extra water, plus upgrade to a Spa Room with Jacuzzi).Had a go with my usual lady and she was as good as ever! She freaked me out a little when she started impaling me right there in the Jacuzzi, but fortunately the big head prevailed and I asked her for a condom.I have been seeing her many many times and I think she is getting comfortable enough to allow herself to screw without rubber. We went 20 minutes overtime and she explained the new cashier that I was a regular, so, the new girl did not charge me for it (which I thought was a very nice gesture)I will certainly be back to Luxury

[AsiaTraveler2]

<cut>I went to Luxury yesterday and the usual cashier was not there so I did not get the VIP Treatment (Coffee on arrival with extra water, plus upgrade to a Spa Room with Jacuzzi).</cut>Nic,We may have crossed paths without knowing it. I planned on hitting Luxury yesterday, and got as far as the entrance. Since I was short on time left in LOS, I went back for the sure thing I had set up. No regrets, as I had a great session, but BKK always leaves visitors like me wishing for more time. Damn you, for having access to this 24/7/365! LOL! ;)AT2

[NicFrenchy]

Damn you, for having access to this 24/7/365! LOL! ;)Haha, what can I say, I am indeed lucky! LOLAlthough lately I have done a lot of non P4P and it is a very nice change. I hang around a lot at All season's place, and the ladies there are all very nicely dressed and some are just stunning beauties. If I find the time I will write a couple of stories that happened to me :)I don't take photos as I find it quite weird to ask a non P4P to take pictures on the first sex session

[Marad39]

Hi ML,I owed this FR to the forum after all the help you and others provided.The first thing I did on 29th after checking into the hotel was to head towards famour Natari. YOur directions of a BTS to Sukhamvit an them Metro to Hau station was just perfect. A few meters walk and I was into a fishbowl with lots of beauties. Imddly was taken up by what seamed like a manger. He hassaled to choose fast but I took some time. There were plenty of hot girls on the side as well. Wanted to try soapy so selected a girl who seamed to have a large tops.. but that was my mistake.. when she opened up, it was not that great and she was only sitting and bending in the fishbowl, it emerged a large. So be careful, big top lovers. She filled in the tub and started the cleaning part.. Which was great and closed my eyes and I felt like in heaven with two hands cleaning and massaging me all over. The little fellow was already tighta and up. She understood it and looks like finished the soapy faster. I wanted to fuck her and I could not control. Sex was not that great.. covered BJ and she rode me and I came along on the missionary style. We still had one hour to kill while I finshed the first of the three shots I had that day... She then brought the slides and gave me a slide massage and then followed with oily massage. Overall a good experience. On the hindsight, I think should have been a bit patience, just like suggested by the seniors and then should have selected the right one... which was kind of coming in my next report...So Natari enterance B story was like the above and I would still recommend the same to anyone with the above precaution as I wrote...
HiThanks for the excellent direction and the search help. I was able to find lots of useful info on my own. I owe you a full FR once I have done it by by end of this month.Cheers mate...

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi Class prices started at 1700 when I went there not that long ago. 2500 suggests an attempted rip-off.We generally suggest Nataree due to large number of girls. But then the choice of girl can make a big difference.Emmanuelle is difficult due to best girls usually being busy, and often nearly all the girls busy, but it is more classy then Nataree and Hi Class.Mick,The last time I when to Hi class is 2005 it cost is 1500 bht then.I will not go back the room and the bath tub are small.The girls are average and service is lousy.They get all the reject from Emmanuelle (same owner).Fast eddie 48

[NicFrenchy]

By the looks of their website, it looks like they have many many ladies, and they start as early as 10 am...From their site: ( MONDAY-FRIDAY ) AT 10:30 am ABOUT 10 LADYS . AT 12:00 am ABOUT 20 LADYS - 30 LADYS . AT 14:00 pm ABOUT 45 LADYS . ( SATURDAY- SUNDAY ) WEEK END EARLY LADYS COME AT 10:00 am ABOUT 20 LADYS . AT 12:00 am ABOUT 30 LADYS - 35 LADYS . AT 13:00 pm ABOUT 55 LADYS .

[NicFrenchy]

I am planning on visiting Angel next week (Friday the 13th) and looking at the web/girls, I think the Maguro (Tuna) looks quite fresh and apetizing. Did anyone try her? how are her services?

[Easy2007]

I am planning on visiting Angel next week (Friday the 13th) and looking at the web/girls, I think the Maguro (Tuna) looks quite fresh and apetizing. Did anyone try her? how are her services?Be careful with Angels at the moment. After a very good run of good performing girls, the last two visits I have had "new" girls, and the service has been disappointing. Both of them "looked" pretty and young, but were very lacking in their abilities compared to the more "experienced" Angels girls.

[NicFrenchy]

maybe I'm a bit out of touch but isn't B2500 a bit steep for 2 hours of ST sex. Thats what I'd expect to pay for LT.As I said MPs not really my thing so only been a few times.Well, let's get one thing straight, the price was 1,500 and not 2,500. Goatboy55 chose to give a generous 1,000 thb tip but the actual price for the 120mn ST was 1,500. I think that 2,500 is not a bad deal at all for 3 shots.

[M P Lurker]

Well, let's get one thing straight, the price was 1,500 and not 2,500. Goatboy55 chose to give a generous 1,000 thb tip but the actual price for the 120mn ST was 1,500. I think that 2,500 is not a bad deal at all for 3 shots.Very fair indeed. Lets remember that of the 1500 the girl gets a small portion. The house gets most of it which is paying for the room/setup and is like a bar fine of 1K but with the room included. Without the nice tip the girl would be virtually working for peanuts.

[NicFrenchy]

From their website: Akane 5Year's Promotion at 33BranchUntil 25/Jun-V-course 60min 2LadiesNew Style Service & Promotion Price = 1680B Only =FYI, for the exact same price, you can have a 90 minutes -S- course where a second lady joins for the last 30 minutes.Enjoy

[Daddy07]

GOGO BAR (Example Shark): Total 4,180Price: 2,500Barfine: 600Drinks: 600Food: 400ST Room: 0 (LT @ Hotel)Condoms: 80Sex Experience: 2 shotsTip: 0Soapys are not that steep after all ;)GOGO BAR (Example Living Dolls): Total 1,620Price: 1,000Barfine: 400Drinks: 100 (1 lady drink)Food: 0Condo or Hotel 0Condoms: 20Sex Experience: typically 1 but sometimes 2 shotsTip: 100Pattaya go-go's ain't that steep either ;)

[M P Lurker]

GOGO BAR (Example Living Dolls): Total 1,620Price: 1,000Barfine: 400Drinks: 100 (1 lady drink)Food: 0Condo or Hotel 0Condoms: 20Sex Experience: typically 1 but sometimes 2 shotsTip: 100Pattaya go-go's ain't that steep either ;)Daddy,You are very thrifty. No drink at all apart from lady drink and only used one condom? Or can you get them for 10 Baht each?

[Daddy07]

Daddy,You are very thrifty. No drink at all apart from lady drink and only used one condom? Or can you get them for 10 Baht each?Thrifty guys can do very well in Pattaya. I don?t count drinks I buy for myself and would consume anyway. Happy hour drinks at Living dolls are only 39 baht, and my limit is two, so not much is added to the cost. I generally eat dinner before I hunt. Condoms aren?t necessary for me since my preference is mutual oral followed by BBBJ CIM. But the best part is the second and all subsequent meetings with a favorite pretty young go-go girl: GOGO BAR (Example Living Dolls): Total 1,000Price: 1,000 ST (1-2 hours)Barfine: 0Drinks: 0 Food: 0Condo or Hotel 0Condoms: 0Sex Experience: typically 1 but sometimes 2 shotsTip: 100 (sometimes)I've not checked out any of the several soapies here -- too expensive!

[Mangofan]

Thrifty guys can do very well in Pattaya. I don?t count drinks I buy for myself and would consume anyway. Happy hour drinks at Living dolls are only 39 baht, and my limit is two, so not much is added to the cost. I generally eat dinner before I hunt. Condoms aren?t necessary for me since my preference is mutual oral followed by BBBJ CIM. But the best part is the second and all subsequent meetings with a favorite pretty young go-go girl: GOGO BAR (Example Living Dolls): Total 1,000Price: 1,000 ST (1-2 hours)Barfine: 0Drinks: 0 Food: 0Condo or Hotel 0Condoms: 0Sex Experience: typically 1 but sometimes 2 shotsTip: 100 (sometimes)I've not checked out any of the several soapies here -- too expensive!That is extremely cheap. How did you avoid the barfine?

[Daddy07]

That is extremely cheap. How did you avoid the barfine?Easy. They give me their mobile numbers and then visit me before going to work, generally at 8pm. That way I can enjoy a nice session of sex before dinner and still have plenty of time to hunt for new prospects in the early evening.

[M P Lurker]

Sorry folks about the lack of Mongering posts. My GF has been with me full-time for a week non-stop. Sneaked out yesterday for a quick session at Emmanuelle. But won't bore with the details. It would be just a repeat of a previous post.

[Joe Nailer]

Sorry folks about the lack of Mongering posts. My GF has been with me full-time for a week non-stop. Sneaked out yesterday for a quick session at Emmanuelle. But won't bore with the details. It would be just a repeat of a previous post.You being a committed monger, why do you bring a GF? :)Or Take her to one of those places, why not?

[M P Lurker]

You being a committed monger, why do you bring a GF? :)Or Take her to one of those places, why not?My GF, being Thai is always here. It just depends on how much free time I get.I have taken her to some bars in Nana Plaza once with her friend who is a ladyboy and wanted to check out the NEP. She enjoyed the Angel Witch show. I was somewhat more uncomfortable in Cascade with all the LBs but had GF for some protection.Anyway my GF is liberable and does allow me the odd soapy visit, especially as her period goes for nearly a whole week. But I dont like to make it obvious when mongering.

[Easy2007]

Thai girls are quite liberal I think, when it gets down to it and a few drinks loosed them up. I took a friend who is an air hostess on an international airline (a bit Hi-so) down to KC3 in Patpong as she wanted to see the ladyboys in the bar etc. (she is Thai). She ended up enjoying herself, having a good grope of different ladyboys tackle etc. I though she was going to barfine one if it went on much longer. But I got her out before that happened.If you remove the sometimes "prissy" attitude that a certain element of society has (inbred due to the desire to be "Hi-so". Some Thais would in general prefer to be unhappy and presumed respectable, as opposed to letting their hair down and having fun). They are underneath it all, quite like the bar worker cousins. Very liberal with the sex and attitudes to it.
My GF, being Thai is always here. It just depends on how much free time I get.I have taken her to some bars in Nana Plaza once with her friend who is a ladyboy and wanted to check out the NEP. She enjoyed the Angel Witch show. I was somewhat more uncomfortable in Cascade with all the LBs but had GF for some protection.Anyway my GF is liberable and does allow me the odd soapy visit, especially as her period goes for nearly a whole week. But I dont like to make it obvious when mongering.

[Saint Jack]

By suggestion from a local friend, I decided to try the subject venue last week which was said to be a local joint on the cheap side.The place is on New petchburi Road end just before hitting the railway track and u-turn place under the bridge going to Pattanakarn.Arriving after 20:00 with 9 inside the fish bowl but more than 10 of the customers sitting on sofa watching. Only 2 price levels here; 1,000 Baht and 1,300 Baht for 2 hours (Asian Price but for farang this will go up almost double as I was told), but the duration here is 2 horus instead of 1.5 hrs like most other places in Bangkok.Selection is not particularly great especially compares to Poseidon, Copacabana or others in the same class; I picked one which suited my taste most and there we went.Room is acceptable but of course not as nice as the higher class ones; what can you ask for more with this price? No TV, so my girl used her mobile phone with speaker to provide some music all through the session.Standard package of service here at mentioned price includes 2 shots; 1 bj while bathing and another FS. So, overall you get good value for the money.My girl did a not too bad bbj with CIM which she sucked til the very last drop.The FS was not bad either with quite enthusiastic service. My girl told me that here is not the place to look for great lookers but have steady customers due to it service; I quite agree to what she said.All in all, this is the only MP in Bangkok I had been to that provide 2 shots in one session and no where else at this price; so may worthwhile for those who fed up with the upper class MPs and want to try something different...

[Palatkik]

Easy. They give me their mobile numbers and then visit me before going to workSo you missed out the cost of using your phone card. Mine costs at least 25 satang a minute - after the first minute. Or are you such a handsome bastrd they call you ALL the time?I wouldn't classify sex as CIMM BBBJ either... but that depends on what the definition of is is?Cheers!

[Daddy07]

...I wouldn't classify sex as CIMM BBBJ either... but that depends on what the definition of is is?Cheers!Yeah, that's what Bill Clinton thought and he almost lost his job over it.

[M P Lurker]

By suggestion from a local friend, I decided to try the subject venue last week which was said to be a local joint on the cheap side.The place is on New petchburi Road end just before hitting the railway track and u-turn place under the bridge going to Pattanakarn.Arriving after 20:00 with 9 inside the fish bowl but more than 10 of the customers sitting on sofa watching. Only 2 price levels here; 1,000 Baht and 1,300 Baht for 2 hours (Asian Price but for farang this will go up almost double as I was told), but the duration here is 2 horus instead of 1.5 hrs like most other places in Bangkok.Selection is not particularly great especially compares to Poseidon, Copacabana or others in the same class; I picked one which suited my taste most and there we went.Room is acceptable but of course not as nice as the higher class ones; what can you ask for more with this price? No TV, so my girl used her mobile phone with speaker to provide some music all through the session.Standard package of service here at mentioned price includes 2 shots; 1 bj while bathing and another FS. So, overall you get good value for the money.My girl did a not too bad bbj with CIM which she sucked til the very last drop.The FS was not bad either with quite enthusiastic service. My girl told me that here is not the place to look for great lookers but have steady customers due to it service; I quite agree to what she said.All in all, this is the only MP in Bangkok I had been to that provide 2 shots in one session and no where else at this price; so may worthwhile for those who fed up with the upper class MPs and want to try something different...I agree that this place can be good for East-Asians provided you are O.K. with slightly more mature girls. Doesn't compete with Nataree or Catherine for youthful girls.I didn't find the girls too stunning (at the time) so the Farang jacked-up price was not worth it for me. To be fare some girls looked O.K. and better ones could have been busy.I think Nancy accross the road is a better bet for Farangs.

[Dan7373]

My GF, being Thai is always here. It just depends on how much free time I get.....Anyway my GF is liberable and does allow me the odd soapy visit, especially as her period goes for nearly a whole week. But I dont like to make it obvious when mongering.I've had a similar experience with my liberal Thai GF. She gave me premission to have some occasional fun at the massage parlour. But I was a little too open about it with her. And when the time came for me to go. I could see that she was very unhappy about it. And I ended up not going.Liberal or not, no Thai lady likes to see her man go with another woman even for a short time. The lady always has mixed feelings about it. And you do have to sneak away from your lady discreetly even after she gives you permission.

[NicFrenchy]

Liberal or not, no Thai lady likes to see her man go with another woman even for a short time. The lady always has mixed feelings about it. And you do have to sneak away from your lady discreetly even after she gives you permission.That goes without saying. The lady might give you the illusion that she "allows" a little massage now and then, but in reality she expects you to refuse and tell her you are happy just with her. I see it in my office every day, my female staff are even upset when one of their Gik (not even a boyfriend) has another Gik, they just can't handle the fact that they are not the only girl.I think it has nothing to do with the guy, it is more to do with their ego

[M P Lurker]

That goes without saying. The lady might give you the illusion that she "allows" a little massage now and then, but in reality she expects you to refuse and tell her you are happy just with her. I see it in my office every day, my female staff are even upset when one of their Gik (not even a boyfriend) has another Gik, they just can't handle the fact that they are not the only girl.I think it has nothing to do with the guy, it is more to do with their egoI might be weird but I prefer any Giks to have other guys as well as helps keep them out of my hair a little.Unfortunately Miss P claims not to have any other guys right now, (might not be true), and Miss S (Thai-Yai from Burma mountains and just returned from living in Japan for 4 years) seems to have no-one and desires to get significant long-time out me that I cannot really provide. If these girls could pick up some other guys, would take the pressure off me. Now my GF is heavily supported by me (even though she is not P4P, costs more than P4P), so I would not be happy if some other guys were getting it for free (would be unfair). If she was P4P and did it with someone else for a nice fee that would not upset me (providing all safe). One can never be sure what GFs or Giks do when we are not there, so why worry about it? Jealousy is really just a curse to make people unhappy.

[M P Lurker]

I sure hope your training of the ladies includes teaching them to use lots of water-based lube for the condom and for herself. One dry condom is all it takes to put the good lady out of action for a while. And I'm talking from personal experience here.One would think that P4P ladies know about this kind of thing. But I've met some P4P ladies who have been at it for years and still didn't know how to deal with a less-than-well-lubricated condom. Instead of understanding the problem and fixing it, these ladies blamed the men. 'Too big' for her is what these ladies said about the men. Water-based lubricants dry out quickly. And without more lube, the man gets too much stimulation, which means that he doesn't last long. But if he manages to last a long time anyway. Then the lady more than likely gets injured from the increased friction.Condoms are good for safe sex. But there is nothing like a dry condom to spoil the fun for both the lady and the man. And I'd say that ignorance about how to deal with this problem is the most common reason why the P4P lady may have some difficulty with "jumping off the roof and bouncing off the mattress with amazing technique".Usually it's the man and not the lady who does all the jumping and all the bouncing. Plenty of lubrication makes it good every time. And all the good lady needs to know is how to make herself available for the horny man in various positions.If there is a single most important thing all P4P ladies need to know. Then I'd say that recognizing poor lubrication and fixing it effectively is the most important thing they all need to know well. Not only does good lubrication make the ride very good and enjoyable for the man. But good lubrication also keeps the lady in good shape and free of any friction-related injuries that can put her out of action for some time.I always supply my own just in case she hasn't got any or doesn't know how to use it or has got that horribly sticky KY which I think is just about the worst brand available.The lubes from Germany are very impressive such as Condomi and Ritex. Thos generally available in Thailand aren't the greatest but I get by with Durex Play if can't find anything better.The guy should also know when the condom is getting dry and take action before she is complaining of friction pain.Some girls are naturally very wet but it usually doesn't last a long time. Lube is essential with condoms (on the outside).

[Satrai2000]

I didn't find the girls too stunning (at the time) so the Farang jacked-up price was not worth it for me. To be fare some girls looked O.K. and better ones could have been busy.I think Nancy accross the road is a better bet for Farangs.Were the girls as stunning as these ones: http://www.asian-oriental-london-escorts.com/gallery.htm

[Retired Army]

Were the girls as stunning as these ones: http://www.asian-oriental-london-escorts.com/gallery.htmIt's amazing what a professional photographer can do with some make up, proper lighting and an airbrush. You can make the mamasan at the corner som tom stand look like a Playboy centerfold. They are selling a fantasy, but reality knocks on your door.

[M P Lurker]

The problem for the guy is that he doesn't get as much friction as the lady gets. The ride may feel okay to him. And if the lady thinks he is simply too big for her and she doesn't recognize the lubrication problem. Then she will grit her teeth, endure the ride, and complain about it later. Experienced guys should have a reasonable idea whats going on.But keep the lube out on display so she can go for it easily if needed.

[Delwand]

Have been pretty inactive here the last year due to being in a comitted relationship. Now Im a free man again and happened to be passing thru Bangkok on business.So as I had some free time on my hands today I decided to visit darlings. I know there are mixed feelings about the place on this forum but I have always gotten good service there so imo it is worth the trip to suhkumvit.I walked in about an hour after opening and was suprised to find a healthy amount of girls in the fishbowl ( about 20 ). I quickly picked Oy who carries the number 3 as she was allready jumping up and down, smiling and waving. turns out my pick was just right. she was a fun girl alltough had a little hint of a belly but a rock hard perfect ass so didnt matter. received a great BBBJ in the tub and then DFK, BBBJ and FS on the bed. all in all I got 3 pops in. for the most part she was very skilled and knew what to do. only minor issue I had with her was that she tried to squirm a bit when being penetrated to deep. but she only weighed 45kg so was pretty easy to pin her down. overall I would recommend this girl as she can provide both GFE and a bit of a porn experience also if wanted.Darlings is still a decent place in imo.

[Fun Dog]

new placewas having lunch at jim thompson cafe in soi saladaeng 1, the same row as sri sathorn service apartments/chin service apartments in silom. there is a spa called [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) spa (you can see the sign board on your right as you stand outside the cafe looking outwards) and true to its words, the girls are between 18-20 only and charges thb800 for a 2 hour massage. only hj and they also have a masturbator machine (from japan) which is the disposable type for additional thb500. the girls will expect a tip for the hand job and they will shower you as you finish undress when you enter the room. the girls can also be persuaded to take off their tops for you to perform some mammary action and some rubbing with their shorts still on. they wear those bicycle shorts as to prevent our hands from moving too fast. the girls are ok looking with one or two large tits girls from the parade. the mamasan do not speak any english and the girls also do not speak any english. hand movements with very very sparse basic english is available.hope this will be something for those looking for young looking school girls looking type. fd

[NicFrenchy]

Experienced guys should have a reasonable idea whats going on.Absolutely. Don't kid yourself about training in regards to lubrication Dan7373, it doesn't happen so entirely up to us to ensure the girl is not "damaged".As Mick so intelligently put it: best to bring your own condoms and Lube to ensure a great time is had by all parties and, trust me, the lady will realise the difference. Punters who ram the ladies with a dry condom and hurt them might get a negative reputation in the MP adn result in the other girls being reluctant to service them.

[NicFrenchy]

Only HJ and they also have a masturbator machine (from Japan) which is the disposable type for additional THB500. The girls will expect a tip for the hand job and they will shower you as you finish undress when you enter the room. The girls can also be persuaded to take off their tops for you to perform some mammary action and some rubbing with their shorts still on. They wear those bicycle shorts as to prevent our hands from moving too fast. Thanks a lot for the report.I stopped going to places that only offered HJ as most of the times I can't come and end up wanting a BJ or FS. It's really a pain to want FS in a HJ only place as I end up getting frustrated.

[M P Lurker]

new placewas having lunch at jim thompson cafe in soi saladaeng 1, the same row as sri sathorn service apartments/chin service apartments in silom. there is a spa called [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) spa (you can see the sign board on your right as you stand outside the cafe looking outwards) and true to its words, the girls are between 18-20 only and charges thb800 for a 2 hour massage. only hj and they also have a masturbator machine (from japan) which is the disposable type for additional thb500. the girls will expect a tip for the hand job and they will shower you as you finish undress when you enter the room. the girls can also be persuaded to take off their tops for you to perform some mammary action and some rubbing with their shorts still on. they wear those bicycle shorts as to prevent our hands from moving too fast. the girls are ok looking with one or two large tits girls from the parade. the mamasan do not speak any english and the girls also do not speak any english. hand movements with very very sparse basic english is available.hope this will be something for those looking for young looking school girls looking type. fdwould be useful to compare it to ogoto also at soi saladaeng 1 which has a bigger range of service including fs i believe. so then it depends if ogoto girls can compete in the looks department.http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=utf8&oe=utf8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.73851,100.544086&spn=0.032308,0.05476&z=15&iwloc=00044848f1808dcd835a1

[Fun Dog]

Mick,You are right as Ogoto has a wider range of services and they have a larger selection of girls. I have been to Ogoto twice and the service varies. (I have posted a previous FR on Ogoto). Ogoto has around 10 girls to choose from and my complaint is that the showers are located outside the rooms where you have to walk a briefly down a corridor and the rooms have no lockers/drawers for your valuables.Whilst the general security are good as I have been very lucky as my years in Bangkok, I have not met with any girl whom is a thief and maybe better luck than some punters whom i read was not so lucky in Yaowarat. I guess common sense prevails as in all punting situations around the world.The range of ages for girls at Ogoto probably goes from 21 to mid 30s as we know how well they preserve their looks. NicFrenchy,I know how sometimes when the HJ is not satisfactory and it becomes a up down motion rushing for completion, it pisses me off too. I would then politely tell the girl "mai pen rai" and suggest that we stop there and I move on to shower to clean myself and tip the girl slightly less but not depriving her of the tip. With the small head thinking and the big head not responding to reason, I then always move on to either Soi Cowboy or NEP to pick a all nighter. (The rush to get someone sometimes makes my level of decision something I regret in the morning especially when i realised their looks are so different with a few beers and the next morning without makeup look)FD

[NicFrenchy]

with the small head thinking and the big head not responding to reason, i then always move on to either soi cowboy or nep to pick a all nighter. (the rush to get someone sometimes makes my level of decision something i regret in the morning especially when i realised their looks are so different with a few beers and the next morning without makeup look)fdi usually go straight to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in order to relieve myself and allow the big head to prevail when i arrive @ sc or nep :)

[Daddy07]

i usually go straight to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in order to relieve myself and allow the big head to prevail when i arrive @ sc or nep :)man, i envy you young studs. with old guys like me, after [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) its time to go home to bed. :)

[M P Lurker]

Mick,You are right as Ogoto has a wider range of services and they have a larger selection of girls. I have been to Ogoto twice and the service varies. (I have posted a previous FR on Ogoto). Ogoto has around 10 girls to choose from and my complaint is that the showers are located outside the rooms where you have to walk a briefly down a corridor and the rooms have no lockers/drawers for your valuables.Whilst the general security are good as I have been very lucky as my years in Bangkok, I have not met with any girl whom is a thief and maybe better luck than some punters whom i read was not so lucky in Yaowarat. I guess common sense prevails as in all punting situations around the world.The range of ages for girls at Ogoto probably goes from 21 to mid 30s as we know how well they preserve their looks. NicFrenchy,I know how sometimes when the HJ is not satisfactory and it becomes a up down motion rushing for completion, it pisses me off too. I would then politely tell the girl "mai pen rai" and suggest that we stop there and I move on to shower to clean myself and tip the girl slightly less but not depriving her of the tip. With the small head thinking and the big head not responding to reason, I then always move on to either Soi Cowboy or NEP to pick a all nighter. (The rush to get someone sometimes makes my level of decision something I regret in the morning especially when i realised their looks are so different with a few beers and the next morning without makeup look)FDThats a good warning about Ogoto showers.Sorry I didn't search and see your previous posts.Maybe I will now to look for comments on the "beauty" ratings which are all important to me.I would simply take my valuables with me to the shower.Obviously they can't actually go in the shower but could be in a plastic bag hung somewhere where can be seen and safe from passer-bys.I never leave wallet, passport, camera etc. in an unattended room just in case.

[M P Lurker]

i usually go straight to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in order to relieve myself and allow the big head to prevail when i arrive @ sc or nep :)in what way do you want the big head to prevail? :confused:isn't the main purpose of sc and nep to find a fuckable girl?is it just that you want to take more time to make a better choice? i guess i am not in quite such a hurry as you. no matter how sex starved i am, i know i will get it, so taking time to make a good choice is not a problem (and i don't have to get up for work the next day). if i choose wrong, no matter, there is always time to get another one, unless gf is awaiting my return. in that case i usually go for known performers who never dissappoint.

[NicFrenchy]

in what way do you want the big head to prevail? :confused:isn't the main purpose of sc and nep to find a fuckable girl?is it just that you want to take more time to make a better choice? was just replying to fun dog who said his little head did the talking when he was not able to get satisfaction at an mp. choosing too quickly was i think his problem.as far as i am concerned, if i go to an oily and cannot come, i need satisfaction immediately so obviously [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is the best choice. after [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), i am more relaxed and can enjoy a few drinks at sc or nep before i select a girl (or move on to a date with my gik)

[M P Lurker]

was just replying to fun dog who said his little head did the talking when he was not able to get satisfaction at an mp. choosing too quickly was i think his problem.as far as i am concerned, if i go to an oily and cannot come, i need satisfaction immediately so obviously [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is the best choice. after [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), i am more relaxed and can enjoy a few drinks at sc or nep before i select a girl (or move on to a date with my gik)you are wise to have giks instead of a nearly full time gf.i only lasted 1 year with giks, after last gf split, before one of them slipped into being a gf. i must be too soft hearted that i was happy for a girl to be with me for days on end with no breaks. but this caused me to have to dump the other more frequent gik.but i am real bad at burning bridges with girls that are nice. some giks i have known for many years now and they are still enjoyable.one former gik just returned to thailand after living in japan for 4 years although she is asian but not thai. at a recent dinner , i spoke to her in thai (as her english is very weak), she spoke to her filippeana friend in japanese (which i don't understand), and i spoke to her friend in english. total chaos as i was the only one using my prime language and the others were struggling to remember which language they were supposed to be using.sorry to stray from massage theme but this non-thai girl once worked in massage before taksin swept out all the non-thais. it's now tough for her to find work in thailand of any type with no thai id card. so i wonder what happened to all the non-thai massage girls that we used to have a few years back?

[Canyon]

Mick:I think a lot of them went back to Burma after the crackdown. I'm afraid some of them may have been hurt in the recent disaster. One of my favorites was Burmese who worked at J-1. She was great, and I'd see her each time I came to Bangkok. Unfortunatley, they fired all the girls without ID cards. Canyon

[M P Lurker]

Mick:I think a lot of them went back to Burma after the crackdown. I'm afraid some of them may have been hurt in the recent disaster. One of my favorites was Burmese who worked at J-1. She was great, and I'd see her each time I came to Bangkok. Unfortunatley, they fired all the girls without ID cards. CanyonI think they were mostly "Thaiyai" from the northern mountains of Burma close to China and persecuted by the Burmese. So probably not in the Irrawaddy district (mostly).Mine was so young, sweet and innocent, but worked at CP2 for a while. May even know your girl.She returned to Burma for many months to get a passport (quite difficult) but then exited Burma again.See may go back to visit her father who she hasn't seen for years but still helps support by sending money home now and then when she has some. Not quite my ideal for a GF, but we have somehow managed to stay in occasional contact after 5 years.A lovely girl.

[One Tree Hill]

Was at Nataree today. As I walked to the fishbowl this guy starts telling me to be careful. He got as far as the room and discovered his she was a he - post op katoey. This was my first time there and this puts me off a bit. Is this normal?I took an older, big breasted LADY and had a good time. But it pisses me off that they would offer shemales to unsuspecting customers.

[Canyon]

Was at Nataree today. As I walked to the fishbowl this guy starts telling me to be careful. He got as far as the room and discovered his she was a he - post op katoey. This was my first time there and this puts me off a bit. Is this normal?I took an older, big breasted LADY and had a good time. But it pisses me off that they would offer shemales to unsuspecting customers.Although another customer told you she was a katoey, it seems to me that this is unlikely. The customer could have had a hidden agenda. Nataree has so many young, cute girls that are natural, that they don't need to hire katoeys. I suppose it's possible that one got in without management's knowing it, but I also find this unlikely. Besides, if they knowingly hired a katoey, it would be very bad for business. I think you should chalk it up to an unfound rumor.Canyon

[M P Lurker]

Although another customer told you she was a katoey, it seems to me that this is unlikely. The customer could have had a hidden agenda. Nataree has so many young, cute girls that are natural, that they don't need to hire katoeys. I suppose it's possible that one got in without management's knowing it, but I also find this unlikely. Besides, if they knowingly hired a katoey, it would be very bad for business. I think you should chalk it up to an unfound rumor.CanyonI agree that while its possible it is extremely remote.Nataree could not afford to spoil its reputation by knowingly allowing a ladyboy.No one has reliably ever reported finding a Gatoey at a Soapy before. So heresay is not evidence.When girls get hired at soapies, they are required to strip completely and have their body reviewed by experienced staff. This is used to decide if they will be hired and whether they go into model category etc.Customer was probably pissed off over something else and made it up.Once we had an emotional ISG poster complain that Soi Cowboy was absolutely rive with ladyboys. If he had said NEP then no problem but there are very few LBs in Soi Cowboy. Most bars do not allow it. I only ever saw 2 or 3 LB dancers in Deja Vu (not counting the Suzi Wong mamasan) although there are plenty of bars I have never been in.But never choose a girl who looks slightly strange, just in case!

[Daddy07]

...When girls get hired at soapies, they are required to strip completely and have their body reviewed by experienced staff. This is used to decide if they will be hired and whether they go into model category etc...This, I suppose is the celebrated procedure whereby papasan's study and decide exactly what to advise customers concerning the attributes of each girl. Now if the soapies would only start hiring farang papasans. :)

[NicFrenchy]

I agree that while its possible it is extremely remote.Nataree could not afford to spoil its reputation by knowingly allowing a ladyboy.My thoughts exactly. I think they would have a lot to lose.

[NicFrenchy]

Now if the soapies would only start hiring farang papasans. :)I am not sure I would want this job even if it was available.First, the pay is probably very low and second, you'd have all the Farang lowlifes coming to you trying to get a discount.Thanks, but I prefer to stay a customer ;)

[Canyon]

Was at Nataree today. As I walked to the fishbowl this guy starts telling me to be careful. He got as far as the room and discovered his she was a he - post op katoey. This was my first time there and this puts me off a bit. Is this normal?I took an older, big breasted LADY and had a good time. But it pisses me off that they would offer shemales to unsuspecting customers.This reminds me of an incident that took place about five years ago in Baccara Bar in Soi Cowboy. I was sitting with a very interesting young woman who was Thai, but had lived in Switzerland and spoke good English. I really liked her and was just about to barfine her, when two American guys came in and sat next to me. They complained to the mamasan about something that had happened the previous evening. After that, they looked at me and said, "Hey, Bro, do you know that your girl is a ladyboy?" Naturally, this unnerved me quite a bit. I talked with the girl, and she said she wasn't and offered to let me inspect her. The two Americans kept creating a scene and with all the confusion, I decided to leave. Now, I'm sure my companion was not a ladyboy, and I should have taken her back to the hotel. Given her nice body, attractive face and good personality, I'm sure I missed out on an enjoyable night. The two guys who accused her of being a ladyboy succeeded in disrupting her business and causing a commotion in the bar. I still regret being influenced by them.

[Sushiman23]

Do Thai girls think farang with a foot fetish are weird?

[Duniawala]

Do Thai girls think farang with a foot fetish are weird?Yes, some think so. But then again...........

[1Ball]

Sushiman, the Thais view the feet as the lowest part of the body, and as such dirty, and not even to be touched. You might find a lady who has been with guys who like feet, and will let you have fun that way though. I have found most girls there have rather unattractive feet though, very wide, and broad. I have no idea how they jam them into those high heels. Ouch !!!

[Sushiman23]

Sushiman, the Thais view the feet as the lowest part of the body, and as such dirty, and not even to be touched. You might find a lady who has been with guys who like feet, and will let you have fun that way though. I have found most girls there have rather unattractive feet though, very wide, and broad. I have no idea how they jam them into those high heels. Ouch !!!Duniawala and 1Ball , Thanks for your replies . Sad to hear that so many Thai girls have ugly peds . I heard the same thing from an Italian guy in Phuket just yesterday while we were chatting on Windows Messenger . The Japanese girls , for the most part , have lovely feet , and are happy to let one indulge in one's predilection . I've dug feet since I was a little kid . Who knows how these things begin.

[Daddy07]

...the Thais view the feet as the lowest part of the body, and as such dirty, and not even to be touched...Yes, I keep hearing this over and over, (always from westerners) so I wonder why there are so many foot massage shops around LOS where touching and feeling of the feet is the main specialty. Are the women who perform this service viewed as "lowlifes" by the Thais?

[1Ball]

you make a good point, daddy07. i think it is probably due to the fact that a foot massage is "medicinal", due to it's therapeutic results, versus a foot fetish, which is sexual.

[Duniawala]

you make a good point, daddy07. i think it is probably due to the fact that a foot massage is "medicinal", due to it's therapeutic results, versus a foot fetish, which is sexual.ok, here goes.1. the foot is both low and high. it is considered a respect to touch an elder's foot with the hand. however, it is an insult to touch someone with their foot or point their foot.2. the foot by itself is not dirty. however, the foot is dirty as it has traveled all over, gathering dust and whatever else.3. giving a foot massage is therapeutic.4. a foot fetish is considered weird as it is not the norm in a world where missionary sex is probably the most prevalent art form. ::)5. some girls do like their foot massaged. however, most feel that it is their duty to please you and not the other way around.me, i'd rather get a foot massage any day. i am the one paying, right? :d

[Run Mann]

Do Thai girls think farang with a foot fetish are weird?This girl told me that a Falang once paid her 500b to kiss her toes, she laughed because it was "jac ka chee" and said the whole thing was odd. How much would you pay Sushiman?

[NicFrenchy]

Yes, some think so. But then again...........Most of the Thai non-P4P gigs I have been with (and still see) love to have their feet caressed during Sex (and foreplay). Yes they might initially think this is weird but once they realised how sensual it is and the pleasure it brings them I guess they grow to like it. One girl even wanted me to suck on her toes

[M P Lurker]

Sushiman, the Thais view the feet as the lowest part of the body, and as such dirty, and not even to be touched. You might find a lady who has been with guys who like feet, and will let you have fun that way though. I have found most girls there have rather unattractive feet though, very wide, and broad. I have no idea how they jam them into those high heels. Ouch !!!Agreed!Yes once you have sucked toes she might then think your mouth is dirty. Unless you find a willing girl who really likes it, keep your foot fetish for another Country.Ticklish girls won't get turned on anyway. A good foot massage may be liked by some girls but they won't consider it to be sex-play if done properly.If a girl was sucking my toes, I would suggest she gets back to the cock instead.

[Daddy07]

...If a girl was sucking my toes, I would suggest she gets back to the cock instead.Then I suggest you might be missing out on some highly sensual foreplay. There is always time for the cock too. A beautiful woman wanting to suck fingers and toes is, IMHO, displaying the ultimate erotically sexually submissive behavior to her man. I'm getting aroused just thinking about it. :)

[LittleBigMan]

I'm not into getting my toe's sucked but when I have her on her back with her legs on my shoulders LBM, find it hard to resist not giving his partner toe's a good licking over! Never had a complaint yet from a Thai women. Of course I stay away from women that have feet like a man!LBM

[Sushiman23]

This girl told me that a Falang once paid her 500b to kiss her toes, she laughed because it was "jac ka chee" and said the whole thing was odd. How much would you pay Sushiman?I'd have to see the face that goes with the toes ! ; )

[Sushiman23]

Then I suggest you might be missing out on some highly sensual foreplay. There is always time for the cock too. A beautiful woman wanting to suck fingers and toes is, IMHO, displaying the ultimate erotically sexually submissive behavior to her man. I'm getting aroused just thinking about it. :)Arigato ! You get it!

[1Ball]

Hey, toes can be fun. My GF gave me a foot job a couple of weeks ago, a bit of lube, and massaged me to completion with her feet. She then sucked her toes clean, with that naughty look in her eyes. Let me tell you, even at my age, that got me going right away, and I pounced on her again.Amazing to me that a girl is so limber she can put her feet in her mouth......

[NicFrenchy]

Amazing to me that a girl is so limber she can put her feet in her mouth......I'm only half surprised as most Thai girls I know are all into Yoga. Must help. ;)

[1Ball]

Actually Monsieur Le Francais, she is Indo, not Thai, but same build as most Thai girls. She can put her knees on either side of her ears, while lying on her back. Talk about open access to everything, while in that position. Amazing

[M P Lurker]

HAmazing to me that a girl is so limber she can put her feet in her mouth......Big deal! I am not very flexible at all but I can get the left big toe to my mouth but it doesn't smell nice right now so I won't lick it. The right foot goes close but not quite. A limber girl is one who can lick your balls while you are fucking her (by arching backwards into a circular ring shape).This has been known to be possible for special girls.

[Run Mann]

Kornwan Massage has changed their URL and name to Rose Massage but all else, including the girls appears to be the same. I have always found this to be one of the better Massage shops, but some of the girls on the site are long gone including my favourite girl Yumi.http://www.roseno1massage.com/

[1Ball]

Big deal! I am not very flexible at all but I can get the left big toe to my mouth but it doesn't smell nice right now so I won't lick it. The right foot goes close but not quite. The point was Mick, that she was licking my cum off her feet at the time. It certainly made it more interesting than just watching her put her big toe in her mouth ;)

[Lord Farquard]

Kornwan Massage has changed their URL and name to Rose Massage but all else, including the girls appears to be the same. I have always found this to be one of the better Massage shops, but some of the girls on the site are long gone including my favourite girl Yumi.http://www.roseno1massage.com/under construction------- :(

[Delwand]

What is Miss C's full name?Actually she just goes by the name "C".I asked for her real name but forgot it allready. however if u just say C the mamasan will know. or ask to see the photo album and she is on the right side page.

[M P Lurker]

What is Miss C's full name?Unusual as most Thai girls names start with "N".I guess it must have been "Cute Girl" :)Or, just speculating, there is a Thai name Sri (with a silent r) which is pronounced like "Sea" so could be respelled as "Cee" or even just "C".I have gotta get back there soon. Still didn't get to "Fa" yet.The mongers "to do" list seems to get out of control easily :D

[Run Mann]

under construction------- :(They are back online Lord. :)

[Old Thai Hand]

They are back online Lord. :)Yes. And at least they've done away with that New Age music on their site. Used to be quite annoying.

[Run Mann]

Yes. And at least they've done away with that New Age music on their site. Used to be quite annoying.They are updating the site and adding some new faces, business must be picking up.

[Dinghy]

ah, but ask "C" to kian pa-saa thai. (if you can read Thai)

[M P Lurker]

ah, but ask "C" to kian pa-saa thai. (if you can read Thai)Probablyศรี

[Casparza]

Hi there,I'm interesting sensual massage and I saw from reports and MP's websites, most of MP does balls/testicle massage. Which one is really good ? What is your favorite MP fot really seductive massage ?

[NicFrenchy]

Hi there,I'm interesting sensual massage and I saw from reports and MP's websites, most of MP does balls/testicle massage. Which one is really good ? What is your favorite MP fot really seductive massage ?Can't beat Hana massage soi 22 and its superstar RIN.She is Older though so if you look for a youngling to do this, then I would suggest Orchid on Soi 31

[Casparza]

Can't beat Hana massage soi 22 and its superstar RIN.She is Older though so if you look for a youngling to do this, then I would suggest Orchid on Soi 31thank you NicFrenchy.I guess RIN is mamasan of Hanamassage, which you are talkign about. I dont have any insist of young ones, I'll try mamasan the RIN. BTW, Do you have any girl suggesstion in Orchid?

[Love Sex 22]

Two days ago decided to check out Nataree for the first time . I got there about 6 PM . I was shocked when I walked in . There were at least 100 side liners look like 18 to 25 years old among them many where very pretty and sexy. And in the fish bowl I think around 25 girls medium looking girls and 5 nicer girls.The place was packed with I think was a tour bus from japan , like a mad house standing room only wall to wall people . I wanted to have a soapy massage so I picked up Ao from the fish thank very fast, since I understand that the side liners don't do that service. I paid 2000 baht and we got to the room . Ao told me she is 25 years old . She is petite girl and cute face and talk English very good . After preparing the plastic mattress on the floor and the soap she asked me to lay down and from here on is was the worst service I ever had . 30 second on my stomach with she slides on my back . Turn over another 30 second front side , Get in the bath she washed me for 30 minutes and didn't stop telling me at least 20 times how big I am . Got to the bed 30 second of Covered BJ and proceed to sex with a lot of fake moaning sounds that I really hate . After 5 minutes I asked to stop . Take a shower and left. 2 mistakes 1- I should have left when I saw the huge crowed.2- I should have picked a side liner and take my time. I have to give another try to this place I hope is not so crowded always is hard to pick up a girl when you have so many customers around you.

[Ralph Kramden]

LoveSex22Between 3 and 6 PM the Japanese tour bus crowd was either busy snapping photos of reclining gold statues or getting soused in anticipation of their Nataree visit. That is when you should been there taking plenty of time for your selection and then plenty more time to enjoy yourself.

[M P Lurker]

Two days ago decided to check out Nataree for the first time . I got there about 6 PM . I was shocked when I walked in . There were at least 100 side liners look like 18 to 25 years old among them many where very pretty and sexy. And in the fish bowl I think around 25 girls medium looking girls and 5 nicer girls.The place was packed with I think was a tour bus from japan , like a mad house standing room only wall to wall people . I wanted to have a soapy massage so I picked up Ao from the fish thank very fast, since I understand that the side liners don't do that service. I paid 2000 baht and we got to the room . Ao told me she is 25 years old . She is petite girl and cute face and talk English very good . After preparing the plastic mattress on the floor and the soap she asked me to lay down and from here on is was the worst service I ever had . 30 second on my stomach with she slides on my back . Turn over another 30 second front side , Get in the bath she washed me for 30 minutes and didn't stop telling me at least 20 times how big I am . Got to the bed 30 second of Covered BJ and proceed to sex with a lot of fake moaning sounds that I really hate . After 5 minutes I asked to stop . Take a shower and left. 2 mistakes 1- I should have left when I saw the huge crowed.2- I should have picked a side liner and take my time. I have to give another try to this place I hope is not so crowded always is hard to pick up a girl when you have so many customers around you.I agree with Ralph that earlier is better, but there is always a chance of selecting a bad girl. Many would say that fish bowl girls are just as good as side-line girls and may be more experienced in general.If I should happen to get a bad girl, I would terminate the session quickly, go down stairs and choose another one. It will be obvious that the first one was no good even without saying anything.Bad luck hits us all sooner or later.P.S. The body slide skill can vary a lot, but I have never had one that bad I think. Can ask who gives exceptional body slide I guess or who is powerful.Very petite girls may be too weak to give good body slides but I have had some wonderful exceptions. Petite but strong is O.K.

[Canyon]

Mick:You're right that anyone can have bad luck with a pick. I was intrigued by your suggestion to terminate the session as soon as possible, go downstairs and pick someone else. I've never had the nerve to try it, but it makes sense. Usually, you can tell pretty soon if it will be a bad session, but sometimes it takes a while---like after you're both undressed and in the tub. In general, what's the latest point at which you can termnate the session and still pick someone else?Canyon

[M P Lurker]

Mick:You're right that anyone can have bad luck with a pick. I was intrigued by your suggestion to terminate the session as soon as possible, go downstairs and pick someone else. I've never had the nerve to try it, but it makes sense. Usually, you can tell pretty soon if it will be a bad session, but sometimes it takes a while---like after you're both undressed and in the tub. In general, what's the latest point at which you can termnate the session and still pick someone else?CanyonYou might have misunderstood. I paid for the 2nd session as well. But I would rather waste some extra money and leave with a good feeling than than be grumpy.My time is usually more precious than the money, so if the girl is doing badly I have terminated well before full time so that I can get a different girl without delay.At a very expensive place, I wouldn't get another girl. I would probably move to a cheaper venue.

[Daddy07]

...I would rather waste some extra money and leave with a good feeling than than be grumpy...To each his own, I suppose, but I would continue on with the session until it expired, all the while trying in a friendly manner to get the girl to do at least a decent job. I might have to leave grumpy, however, when we're talking about a couple thousand baht, wasting that kind of extra money would make me leave with a bad feeling anyway, i.e., very grumpy indeed.

[Canyon]

Mick, I did misunderstand you. I thought that if you terminated early, they would give you a session with another girl free of charge. I didn't realize you had to pay for the second session as well. When I first started visiting soapies about seven years ago, I found that about 25% of my sessions were mediocre because I picked the wrong girl. Aboout 30% were wonderful and the rest were pretty good. I wanted to reduce the number of the mediocre sessions, so I tried two things. First, I took my time picking the girl and only chose ones that responded positively to me from the fishbowl, i.e. they smiled, made eye contact, looked interesting, waved (but not too much), laughed, etc. This helped reduce the number of poor performances. The other thing that I found useful was talking to the girl for a few minutes before proceeding to the room. At Tarawadee, Nataree, J-1, Poseidon, Emmanuelle, Amsterdam and others, they let me have 15 minutes to talk with the girl before I make a decision. Usually, I never need more than five minutes to decide. These two things have reduced my mediocre sessions to around 5-7%. I haven't eliminated them entirely, but they are now down to an acceptable level. One difficulty is that it's hard to refuse the girl after talking with her. One time, I talked with a girl, discovered she was not right for me, but I didn't have the nerve to send her back because she was so nice. We went to the room and it was a terrible session. I couldn't even come. I went next door and picked another girl. The second girl was beautiful and gave me great service, but I still couldn't come---even with her. The experience with the previous girl had so unnerved me that I couldn't function sexually. Sex, of course, is as much a psychological function as it is a physical function. From that day on, I stopped being a coward. Whenever I talk with a girl who I discover is not right for me, but who's very nice and wants to go with me, I screw up my courage by thinking about the terrible time I had with the girl from the past that I didn't send back. That stiffens my backbone every time. Sometimes, I'll pick another girl in the same establishment, but other times, I'll leave and go elsewhere. Either I'm embarrassed or I don't want the girl to lose face by picking one of her co-workers. One time, I felt so bad about not choosing a very nice girl, I faked a stomach ache, said I didn't feel well and left. Another thing I've done is tell the papasan that he'll get a tip if the service is good. I'll pick three or four girls that look interesting, then ask the papasan for his comments on each one. This has worked reasonably well. I never tip the papasan upfront. Of course, if you know the papasan and are a repeat customer, he'll usually steer you in the right direction. Even with a papasan I know, I don't always get a wonderful experience, but I have never received a mediocre one.

[M P Lurker]

Another thing I've done is tell the papasan that he'll get a tip if the service is good. I'll pick three or four girls that look interesting, then ask the papasan for his comments on each one. This has worked reasonably well. I never tip the papasan upfront. Of course, if you know the papasan and are a repeat customer, he'll usually steer you in the right direction. Even with a papasan I know, I don't always get a wonderful experience, but I have never received a mediocre one.I think this is good advice. You can't let the papasan choose for you but you can be influenced to some degree and its best if his good tip is dependent on good advice.I'm not sure I can always choose the right girl from talking to them. I have met a couple who were tremendously good fun to talk to but still lousy on the bed. And in contrast I have had an incredibly good time with a girl who looked disinterested in the line up (maybe was in her own little world somewhere else).All I can really say is that I avoid girls who make ugly faces when talking to their friends and also avoid girls who seem to be acting fake or too excited.

[Love Sex 22]

After my disappointing visit to Nataree ( I will take your advises and go a little earlier next time and will take my time to make a selection ) I visited Tullip again and picked up Ben . She is also in the small size and here tits were to small for my taste . After the shower all the usual, BBBJ, some rimming a lots of ball licking and the sex , didn't try anal thinking she would give me a second round. she gave me a very nice and long oil massage till I realize that the time was over . A little disappointed that she escaped from second round . Any recommendations on a girl from Nataree that has exceptional service will be appreciated guys.

[Montecristo]

Went recently to Angels soi 26, had a session with an Angel :)I was really impressed (despite the fake boobs), by the end of the session, she repeatedly said would like me to choose her again, even talked about the possibility of booking previously.I really want to repeat, but after a close inspection to their website, a part of me would like to buterfly one or two times, soon i will leave Thailand, and might be a chance lost forever.By other side, it really annoys me to be choosing a new girl if she is there, we all have talked about the "girl losing her face", but i wonder if thats really true or a kind of bullshit ?If buterflying in Angels is not so correct, still have the rest of parlours in Bangkok to buterfly.ThanksMonteCristo

[M P Lurker]

Went recently to Angels soi 26, had a session with an Angel :)I was really impressed (despite the fake boobs), by the end of the session, she repeatedly said would like me to choose her again, even talked about the possibility of booking previously.I really want to repeat, but after a close inspection to their website, a part of me would like to buterfly one or two times, soon i will leave Thailand, and might be a chance lost forever.By other side, it really annoys me to be choosing a new girl if she is there, we all have talked about the "girl losing her face", but i wonder if thats really true or a kind of bullshit ?If buterflying in Angels is not so correct, still have the rest of parlours in Bangkok to buterfly.ThanksMonteCristoI prefer to butterfly ar other establishments if I have developed a "favourite". If the favourite is not there I might choose someone else. Repeating helps me to keep a "special" relationship with the girl.If I have no favourite any longer, then I will butterfly.Others will disagree, but I reckon I get more GFEs this way.Now if you have found another girl at Angel26 that you simply must have, then be prepared for the 1st girl to "cool off" a little (but they are used to this sort of thing happening).

[Washburn]

Mick, I did misunderstand you. I thought that if you terminated early, they would give you a session with another girl free of charge. I didn't realize you had to pay for the second session as well. When I first started visiting soapies about seven years ago, I found that about 25% of my sessions were mediocre because I picked the wrong girl. Aboout 30% were wonderful and the rest were pretty good. I wanted to reduce the number of the mediocre sessions, so I tried two things. First, I took my time picking the girl and only chose ones that responded positively to me from the fishbowl, i.e. they smiled, made eye contact, looked interesting, waved (but not too much), laughed, etc. This helped reduce the number of poor performances. The other thing that I found useful was talking to the girl for a few minutes before proceeding to the room. At Tarawadee, Nataree, J-1, Poseidon, Emmanuelle, Amsterdam and others, they let me have 15 minutes to talk with the girl before I make a decision. Usually, I never need more than five minutes to decide. These two things have reduced my mediocre sessions to around 5-7%. I haven't eliminated them entirely, but they are now down to an acceptable level. One difficulty is that it's hard to refuse the girl after talking with her. One time, I talked with a girl, discovered she was not right for me, but I didn't have the nerve to send her back because she was so nice. We went to the room and it was a terrible session. I couldn't even come. I went next door and picked another girl. The second girl was beautiful and gave me great service, but I still couldn't come---even with her. The experience with the previous girl had so unnerved me that I couldn't function sexually. Sex, of course, is as much a psychological function as it is a physical function. From that day on, I stopped being a coward. Whenever I talk with a girl who I discover is not right for me, but who's very nice and wants to go with me, I screw up my courage by thinking about the terrible time I had with the girl from the past that I didn't send back. That stiffens my backbone every time. Sometimes, I'll pick another girl in the same establishment, but other times, I'll leave and go elsewhere. Either I'm embarrassed or I don't want the girl to lose face by picking one of her co-workers. One time, I felt so bad about not choosing a very nice girl, I faked a stomach ache, said I didn't feel well and left. Another thing I've done is tell the papasan that he'll get a tip if the service is good. I'll pick three or four girls that look interesting, then ask the papasan for his comments on each one. This has worked reasonably well. I never tip the papasan upfront. Of course, if you know the papasan and are a repeat customer, he'll usually steer you in the right direction. Even with a papasan I know, I don't always get a wonderful experience, but I have never received a mediocre one.Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?

[Washburn]

P.S. The body slide skill can vary a lot, but I have never had one that bad I think. Can ask who gives exceptional body slide I guess or who is powerful.Very petite girls may be too weak to give good body slides but I have had some wonderful exceptions. Petite but strong is O.K.Oin, at Nataree.

[Startrek]

Bangindhi, I saw few stunning babes on Angel's web page, I'm visiting BKK next month, any forum member has experienced Angel SOI 26 babes, any hot babe in particular.Please Share

[M P Lurker]

Bangindhi, I saw few stunning babes on Angel's web page, I'm visiting BKK next month, any forum member has experienced Angel SOI 26 babes, any hot babe in particular.Please ShareClick on "Search this Thread"Then enter:Angel+26 and do a searchAlso try (to cover variations in spelling):Angels+26 Angel26That should give you a pretty good list of experiences to start with (although not covering very new girls).

[Canyon]

Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?When I first went to Bangkok, someone told me that the girls could not see out because there was one-way glass. In seven years of visiting soapies, I've only been in one where the girls could not see out. If you stand next to the glass, they can almost always see you. If you stand away from the glass, it's hard for them to see you, because it's darker outside than inside the fishbowl, because the fishbowl lights are brighter. When I pick a girl, I always stand close to the glass, so I can get a good look. The girls can see me, and I always get some kind of reaction from them. The ones I've had the most success with are ones that make eye contact with me, smile and look interested without waving and gesturing wildly. I avoid both those who have no reaction to me and those who are trying too hard to get my attention.In the early years, I never tipped the papasan. Later on, I found that tipping could help, but I never tip up-front. I tell the papasan I will tip him if I like the girl's service and his comments are accurate. I always keep my end of the bargain by tipping him if I get really good service. That also helps the next time I come in. The papasan will try hard to recommend a girl who will give you good service. I don't ask for a recommendation per se, but I will pick three or so girls that I like, then ask for comments from the papasan on each one. I would recommend you try this because it's worked well for me. You don't have to tip a lot. My range is 200-300 baht.

[NicFrenchy]

Bangindhi, I saw few stunning babes on Angel's web page, I'm visiting BKK next month, any forum member has experienced Angel SOI 26 babes, any hot babe in particular.Please ShareSadly, my #1 fav there (miss Donut) has gone... back home.Hopefully her money will run out in a few months adn she'll be back LOL (Am I evil?)

[AsiaTraveler2]

Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?Washburn,They can see you, some do make eye contact (sometimes a good sign), they do and will smile at you in some cases, and sometimes laugh if you do something silly or out of the ordinary (like go near the glass and drool!). ;)I can't say that the tipping of the papasan'smamasan's help at all. I have not had better experiences when I did in my early days and have not done it in years. My suggestion would be to keep your money and tip the girls for great service. They do all the work. Maybe others may feel different.AT2

[M P Lurker]

Umm... although the girls in the fishbowl look like they can see out, it's really one-way glass isn't it? They can't make eye-contact with you, can they?I mean, I've never been a fishbowl girl so I don't know for sure but that's what they tell me.Also, how many people here tip the papasan or mamasan at MPs? I've done it in a bar, when they've been really helpful, and even then I think the money would be better spent on the girl, but never at an MP. Should I be tipping the papasan?Its not one-way glass and Canyon explained very well.I always like to stand back a bit in the dark so that the girls can't see me (from their brightly lit fish-tank). I don't want them to put on their best behaviour just because I am there. I prefer to see their normal facial expressions. I don't mind giving a small tip to the papasan/mamasan for services rendered since they have to make money too. I prefer to tip afterwards if I don't know them as being reliable and then only if they did not steer me towards a dud girl. If they know you will tip O.K. for good service then they are more likely to give good service next time.We always need help at times to check where our favourite girl is. Out the back, or not at work today, or coming in 30 mins etc.

[M P Lurker]

Oin, at Nataree.Is that the name of a great girl for body-slide or one to be avoided?

[Mad Harry]

Mick can you please let me have your comments on the plan below, do you think it is workable as i only have couple days before & after Phuket HolidayI am landing at BKK airport at 15.30 on the 25th of December, I will pushed for time as the Mrs is with me, I have booked the Sheraton Hotel Shukumwit , should I have enough time to have a haircut, shave etc and get to Akane center soi 33 or Subway, I am probably jet lagged after a 12hrs flight from Lon and therfore do not need FS, or am I better of going to Aviva massage in soi 8. The Mrs is expecting me to take her out for a meal that evening. Any nice restaurants near the hotel, I was thinking of cabbages and condoms or any other suggested restaurant nearby. Next day if i can get away head to Eden for my 1st visit i fancy spanking a couple of ladies bottoms any suggestions of names i can pre-book, any one tried this before. Any help fully appreciated

[Washburn]

Is that the name of a great girl for body-slide or one to be avoided?Sorry - didn't mean to be cryptic!Oin is great. Very strong and amazing body slide and massage. I had her as part of a twosome and the girl who picked her (I picked her based on her looks and asked her to pick a friend) said she chose Oin so she could watch her technique and learn from her.

[John Euro]

I am landing at BKK airport at 15.30 on the 25th of December, I will pushed for time as the Mrs is with me, I have booked the Sheraton Hotel Shukumwit , should I have enough time to have a haircut, shave etc and get to Akane center soi 33 or Subway, Any help fully appreciatedI stay most of the time in that Sheraton and if Mrs is travelling with me and I only can have a short ?prison escape ? under the excuse to catch ? fresh BK air outside ? this on a non business day , I just go across the road from Sheraton , in to Soi 19 , after 500m on yr right there is Friends barber & massage , and a few good looking girls , extra?s available , a good service at a all in at one address . http://www.friendsmassage.com/ There are a lot more in the area and more fun orientated like Aviva only 2 blocks away, A 1 hour service at Akane or Sazanka (which is a more special experience) will cost you at least 2 hours away from your life guard even if you walk or go on sky train.On your RH, 50m in Soi 19 is a very good Italian restaurant, La Gritta, les expensive than the Italian one in the Sheraton and good food if you want to stay in the near. Condoms and Cabbages is quality wise ok but I went there with my partner last time figured it was not such a good idea, the theme is more condoms than cabbage, when you ask for the bill, they give you 2 condoms instead of a sweet candy or peppermint, you can't believe how fast she as thrown these 2 in to the bin ones when back in our room. And I though they are for a men?s safety. (don?t try to understand a women?s mind LOL)John Euro

[M P Lurker]

mick can you please let me have your comments on the plan below, do you think it is workable as i only have couple days before & after phuket holidayi am landing at bkk airport at 15.30 on the 25th of december, i will pushed for time as the mrs is with me, i have booked the sheraton hotel shukumwit , should i have enough time to have a haircut, shave etc and get to akane center soi 33 or subway, i am probably jet lagged after a 12hrs flight from lon and therfore do not need fs, or am i better of going to aviva massage in soi 8. the mrs is expecting me to take her out for a meal that evening. any nice restaurants near the hotel, i was thinking of cabbages and condoms or any other suggested restaurant nearby. next day if i can get away head to eden for my 1st visit i fancy spanking a couple of ladies bottoms any suggestions of names i can pre-book, any one tried this before. any help fully appreciatedsome others are better placed to answer some of these questions and have done so."subway"? i wouldn't recommend "subway" massage in ratchada if thats what you are referrring to. nearby to subway is nataree which is popular with isg members. but will take a fair bit of time to get there have a session and get back. allow 2.5 hours minimum. darling is much closer to you if you are looking for a soapy mp.akane 33 probably has shorter time period bookings if needed.[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) blow job bar is nearby for a real quick blowjob but not my preference. eden is also very close by but you nneed more time.aviva is a good idea. nic recommends cher, who i plan to try soon, and i found nana to be good looking and o.k. performance but not super.make sure you take some light relaxant pill to help you get some sleep on the flight and drink plenty of water. i always want fs after my 9 hrs flight. i am very much a fs man and rarely take any less.take a vitamin "v" if necessary if you think you are too tired :)jet lag usually takes effect 1 to 2 days after the flight. not so much immediately after the flight.there is an italian restaurant that i have had great food at near your hotel. its on the left front corner of the korean plaza on sukhumwit road. "la casa". the "seafood palace" near your hotel is very expensive and has thai dance and music (annoying for me - too loud).i haven't been to "cabbages & condoms".just the name puts me off.search "general" thread for restaurants.nothing happens in bkk on dec 25 (xmas day), but coming into the new year many girls start leaving to spend new year up country. bkk starts to empty out but probably still plenty of girls on dec25. p.s. soi cowboy is real close, but your mobile phone (cell phone/handy) wont work there due to very tall buildings adjoining.

[Mad Harry]

Thanks for your advice, between Friends, Aviva and maybe Akane (on the sky train from Ashoke is only 2-3 stops should not take that long) Which do you think is my best bet to get a BBBJ, Riming and maybe a decent massage?

[NicFrenchy]

Thanks for your advice, between Friends, Aviva and maybe Akane (on the sky train from Ashoke is only 2-3 stops should not take that long) Which do you think is my best bet to get a BBBJ, Riming and maybe a decent massage?Akane. Without the shadow of a doubt.but then again, I have to be fair and tell you that after bad experiences I have crossed Aviva off my list so I an a little biased LOL.Do a search for Akane on the forum or look at their website and you will surely enjoy the experience.I usually go for the S3 (90 minutes and minimum 2 shots, sometimes 3).Akane web:http://www.pink-project.com/akane/english/english_top.html

[Link NL]

Damn there is so much information that I still wonder where I should go.So please, what is the best oils massage with fs on Sukhumvit?Thanks for all the info, the whole is a bit overwhelming.

[Joe Nailer]

I just go across the road from Sheraton , in to Soi 19 , after 500m on yr right there is Friends barber & massage , and a few good looking girls , extra?s available , a good service at a all in at one address . http://www.friendsmassage.com/ There are a lot more in the area and more fun orientated like Aviva only 2 blocks away, A 1 hour service at Akane or Sazanka (which is a more special experience) will cost you at least 2 hours away from your life guard even if you walk or go on sky train.John EuroHi John Euro, I will be staying in that area this weekend and I desperately need a hair cut and the additional service.Can you recommend a girl who can cuts hair and provide a FS. I prefer a decent looking girl who has a good figure, a little chubby is ok, tits not too big; size B is ideal.Is a girl who would give you an FS must be the same girl who cuts your hair?Imagine this situation.I walk in asking for a hair cut. A ugly one (or someone I dont get excited) may take up the task and she would ask if I want the special. What would I say without upsetting her? How does it work?anyone? ThanksNMG

[Traveler1234]

Akane.I usually go for the S3 (90 minutes and minimum 2 shots, sometimes 3).Akane web:http://www.pink-project.com/akane/english/english_top.htmlBtw, BJ (some BB others with condom) and Rimming are part of the service but FS is not guaranteed with every girl.

[1Ball]

Btw, BJ (some BB others with condom) and Rimming are part of the service but FS is not guaranteed with every girl.it's interesting T1234, that the girl will happily stick her tongue up a guy's ass, but might refuse to have sex with him. I don't get it

[Traveler1234]

it's interesting T1234, that the girl will happily stick her tongue up a guy's ass, but might refuse to have sex with him. I don't get itHe he....last visit with very attractive girl, she insisted on condom even for BJ and denied 'entrance', saying no no no ;)Haven't returned since...

[AsiaTraveler2]

Hi John Euro, I will be staying in that area this weekend and I desperately need a hair cut and the additional service.Can you recommend a girl who can cuts hair and provide a FS. I prefer a decent looking girl who has a good figure, a little chubby is ok, tits not too big; size B is ideal.Is a girl who would give you an FS must be the same girl who cuts your hair?Imagine this situation.I walk in asking for a hair cut. A ugly one (or someone I dont get excited) may take up the task and she would ask if I want the special. What would I say without upsetting her? How does it work?anyone? ThanksNMGNMG,Sorry to disappoint you, but the girls who do the cutting are not the same girls who do the massages. They are trained to do what they do, and that's understandable. Besides, a girl with a pair of Scissors near your privates would be quite dangerous! (joke) ;). The normal routine is to get your hair cut, pay the mama-sancashier and then ask for the massage. The location near Soi 6, you go upstairs for the massage. After the massage, you come down and pay for it. Tips are appreciated of course.Have fun!AT2

[John Euro]

Hi John Euro, I will be staying in that area this weekend How does it work?anyone? ThanksNMGFair chance that AT2 is right, a haircut is a bit a different skill from massage but I am sure they all can do a HJ. I had only had once the same girl for massage and a pedi- & manicure at Friends Barber, the pedicure was the camouflage for being there, the few times I have been there I have chosen always the girl from the group that is sitting outside the shop and asked if she could do a good massage, asking twice " really good " massage and looking in there eyes so that she understand you are looking for extra service. Go for massage first with the one you like and ask later for the haircut, when it?s a girl that turns you off, no problem now, the most important deed is already done.Look at there website, picture 1 and 2, the girl below left, I had here a few times, thought here name was Ami, was OKAT2 is absolutely right about the oil problem, small massage shops don?t provide always a shower, at Akane and Sazanka, surly no problem with that, lotion comes easily off and shower afterwards.JE

[NicFrenchy]

it's interesting t1234, that the girl will happily stick her tongue up a guy's ass, but might refuse to have sex with him. i don't get ityou don't need to get it, the girls are just doing what they are told.akane has a very strict no fs policy and the girls will get fired on the spot if caught. i also know that rivalries exist there and that some girls would jump at the occasion of exposing one of their colleagues.fs can be had with certain akane girls, but you need to go to the peep in hotel (therefore ordering the vip course). if fs is so important, then best to skip akane altogether and head to a place that offers it. i have been fortunate enough to see an akane girl outside the shop and have sex with her on her "off time", but she told me she won't allow it while working. fair enough and we should not push/force them for fs.

[NicFrenchy]

in to Soi 19 , after 500m on yr right there is Friends barber & massage , and a few good looking girls , extra?s available , a good service at a all in at one address . http://www.friendsmassage.com/ Do they have showers? I am always very cautious about massage places without showers, means the girls cannot wash properly between customers.
Condoms and Cabbages is quality wise ok but I went there with my partner last time figured it was not such a good idea, the theme is more condoms than cabbage, when you ask for the bill, they give you 2 condoms instead of a sweet candy or peppermint, I think that what Cabbage&Condoms is trying to do is very noble. You need to know that the restaurant is very average, the food is cheap and not very exciting for Expats (still ok for tourists). The restaurant is managed by the Population & Community Development Association of Thailand. The restaurant incomes help fund population control, AIDS awareness, and a host of rural development programs. That's why such a strange name. They also have a hotel in Pattaya.

[Bhudda Gonewrong]

Mick or others, Newbie questions. I will be in Bangkok for the first time in sept.I am Asian-american with no accent. So what hotel is say in a very convient area for Nataree and Angel 26? Do these 2 charge foreigners more? Also, is it polite to just ask the manager up front what the charge is for sex? Who has better models between the 2 and what is the going rate for the models? Oh, what about my belongings like passport, wallet? CAn I take this into the massage room? I had some money stolen from me in China when I used one of their spa lockers.Thanks, mick and others.

[Mark17]

Mick or others, Newbie questions. I will be in Bangkok for the first time in sept.I am Asian-american with no accent. So what hotel is say in a very convient area for Nataree and Angel 26? Do these 2 charge foreigners more? Also, is it polite to just ask the manager up front what the charge is for sex? Who has better models between the 2 and what is the going rate for the models? Oh, what about my belongings like passport, wallet? CAn I take this into the massage room? I had some money stolen from me in China when I used one of their spa lockers.Thanks, mick and others.Sorry to be so blunt, but do a search, you can find the routine, then ask some questions.

[John Euro]

Do they have showers? I am always very cautious about massage places without showers, means the girls cannot wash properly between customers.Nick,As far as I know, non, have not seen one but to be honest I did not ask for it also, at least not seen as a annex to the room, the sweaty walk from Friends to the Sheraton is only a few minutes, upon arrival I mainly went straight away to the pool and jump in it to get the sweat and oil off me. I guess that the girls must have a private shower since I did not have any doubt whit there hygiene so far. But again, this place is only ok if time is on the emergency plan, the main targets here are all the barber things and massage (+ HJ) and for the real FS are far better places if one as time enough to kill and walk or BTS a bit more distance, the MP next door will offer the same service (not Chivat Chivi, that?s straight).On other occasions in other small MP?s everwhere in TH, I asked to use the shower before or after it and the girls guided me mainly to there own, toilet / shower / storage place, full with laundry and stuff, at least they have had one to use, so must be here the same situation since every square meter will used to the maximum, as you know, small massage cubicles will give you always a first impression on how the place is. When the shower is at the other end I have always a bad feeling of leaving my belongings in the cubicle and I just take the them with me if needed.John

[John Euro]

This is very true, in my experience too. Personally, when in Bangkok, and if I can escape for an afternoon, I want to get the best sensual massage experience available. I never heard of the to Asia Herb Association on Soi 24. Is a happy ending available there, of is it totally straight and legit ?Asian Herb in Soi 24 is with just a excellent massage, the have 2 shops there but the bigger one the RH side when coming from is SUK is the best, never believe they do extra?s and even did not try since there massage is perfect and professional.One block more on the LH, next to Marlies Deckers bra shop is another very good one (straight only) name ARBORA, inexpensive for 2h massage, very clean, a bit older ladies but well trained. As Nick say?s, it?s one or the other if you want the best out of it.JE

[M P Lurker]

Mick or others, Newbie questions. I will be in Bangkok for the first time in sept.I am Asian-american with no accent. So what hotel is say in a very convient area for Nataree and Angel 26? Do these 2 charge foreigners more? Also, is it polite to just ask the manager up front what the charge is for sex? Who has better models between the 2 and what is the going rate for the models? Oh, what about my belongings like passport, wallet? CAn I take this into the massage room? I had some money stolen from me in China when I used one of their spa lockers.Thanks, mick and others.There is no Hotel that is close to both Nataree and Angel26.Normally we catch the MRT (Underground Rail) from Sukhumwit Station to Huay Khwang to get to Nataree.I find Livingstone's Lodge to be a possible choice as can walk to MRT or Angels from there. Some would say its too far to walk. Can catch a taxi instead on Sukhumwit Road to MRT. There are other possibilities.Maps:http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.732048,100.570049&spn=0.015383,0.016544&z=16http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.765897,100.578804&spn=0.06194,0.079651&z=14The prices at Nataree are all inclusive.At Angel26 the girl will be expecting 1500 tip for FS, 1000 for BJ only, or 500 for HJ. They prefer to do the full service for full tip of course. You can give extra tip if you think the girl was exceptional.I usually carry passport in my bag or leave it in Hotel room.In normal MP rooms with shower or bath there is no need to leave it unattended so don't worry. I have never had anything stolen in living memory but I don't do anything too crazy.Others are not so lucky. I'm not sure why.

[Run Mann]

Mick or others, Newbie questions. I will be in Bangkok for the first time in sept.I am Asian-american with no accent. So what hotel is say in a very convient area for Nataree and Angel 26? The Emerald Hotel is within walking distance from Nataree, Subway, Ceasers Entertainment Complex, and several other Massage Parlors in that area. You can actually spend your whole trip in that area and have a blast without venturing into the lower suk ghetto. http://www.emeraldbangkok.th1.org/

[Joe Nailer]

Fair chance that AT2 is right, a haircut is a bit a different skill from massage but I am sure they all can do a HJ. . from the group that is sitting outside the shop and asked if she could do a good massage, asking twice " really good " massage and looking in there eyes so that she understand you are looking for extra service. Go for massage first with the one you like and ask later for the haircut, .Look at there website, picture 1 and 2, the girl below left, I had here a few times, thought here name was Ami, was OKJEThanks JE, AT2 for the note.I suppose I am interested in experiencing the process of how a mundane thing like having you hair cut develops into a full blown sex. It is a fantasy thing.Anyway, I would try Ami or someone who understands my needs. :)TaNMG

[Fun Dog]

Syedlitz,The Asia Herb Association is a quality (legit) place for massage (oil, aroma and style) including full course of massage, scrubs, baths and massage with basic to 3-4 hours package with prices ranging from THB1000 to THB2500 per person.The place is professionally managed where the reception will take an appointment and is frequented by Korean/Jap expats and a number of mid-so Thais (as opposed to Hi-SOs). You will get a frequent visitor card to stamp each visit. It is pricey compared to most massage places but not to the high end spas in hotels.Most quality providers are of mid-30s to 40s. I went there with my gik (part-time thai girlfriend) and we did the 4 hour course with full facial, scrub and massage. In between showering and changing, you have some privacy time which you may do a quickie with your partner (the thrill of knowing you might be caught or that the provided is right outside waiting for you to shower/change). I was at the couple room and am not sure about the general areas. You pay at the reception before you begin and they conduct a brief questionnaire to ensure you specify the hardness of the massage and any specific areas which you want the massage to focus on. very professionally managed IMHO. My gik mentioned that it is pricey for Thai standards and there are other similar locations which has the same quality but cheaper. I guess it was convenient as it is located 10m from Emporium Thonglor Soi 24.FD