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Member #4698
07-09-15, 19:25
the landscape has dramatically changed. It certainly has. 4 or 5 years ago my favorite Oily was Angel Massage. They had nice girls and service was good and always included 2 shots in 90 or 120 minutes. The last time I went there was either 2011 or 2010. I took a good looking girl upstairs and she gave me a very good shag. Afterwards as we were cuddling and kissing, I suggested we take another shower so we would be ready for jam #2. She smiled and said, "only one boom boom per session". I was stunned and I didn't take her seriously so accustomed was I to the two shot session. So instead of negotiating or anything, I just laughed and said something like OK darling, don't kid me. We go boom boom one more time now. But she politely refused so I changed my tactics a little and suggested we take a shower together figuring I would seduce her with whatever it took in the shower. But no, as I started to soap up her ta ta's, she moved away and declined my advances. So I let her just clean me up and then I met her back on the bed.

We still had around 25 minutes left on the clock so I asked her what she wanted to do if not boom boom. She offered to give me another massage. I let her start to massage my back, but as I lay there I became frustrated and a little mad so after no more than 5 minutes I ended the session and began to get dressed. The girl was nonplussed. From her point of view she had done nothing wrong and had provided good service. Looking back I have to agree with her. The problem at the time was my ignorance of the policy change. No one told me! LOL. So I paid my tab downstairs at the counter which was around 2000 bt and change, but I did not tip her. She was still acting amenable and friendly like there was nothing wrong. As I was leaving, she stuck a lollipop in my mouth and asked me to come back to see her sometime. But I never went back to Angel Massage. I guess I took the session protocol change real personal and I never forgave that shop, my favorite oily at the time, for the much larger Paradigm Shift affecting all of BKK. In the meantime, the scene was changing in many ways with a lot of new shops opening up in the proximate neighborhood, some like Mango offering porn star service with multiple shags. Things change. I wonder how many other customers Angel lost that year.

Anyway, the bottom line is I am thinking it is probably long overdue that I go back and check out Angel again, if I can find the time. From their website it looks like they might have a few girls worth shagging. Who knows?

http://www.angelbangkok26.com/en/gallery.html

Paul Kausch
07-10-15, 05:04
If you don't know the difference between the words offer and get then who is the moron?Young man I used to tell my children the problem with the first lie is you have to keep lying and fudging what you really meant to weasel your way out of that first lie. I made it very clear from the beginning of this asinine argument the reason I am pissed off at you is because you are creating the false expectation that half the time without asking for it you will be offered a BBBJ at Nataree. Offered versus got. F**k you. It makes no damn difference. You are telling people they have a 50-50 chance of walking into Nataree and getting a BBBJ if they accept the offer. And by implication if the girl reaches for a condom by saying you want a BBBJ perhaps your odds of getting one will be better than 50-50. Whether they accept it or turn it down is irrelevant, idiot.

Perhaps if you are East Asian, a really good looking young guy fluent in Thai who has totally charmed the young lady by the time you are in the room or once in a while if you are lucky enough to pick the right girl you will be offered a BBBJ. And perhaps you are a really good looking young guy who is fluent in Thai; or maybe you have to compensate for something by telling tall tales; but for the average farang guy being offered a BBBJ at Nataree is unlikely.

Once upon a time the point of this forum was to share mongering experiences around the world, to pass on useful information and answer other mongers questions. That no longer seems to be the case. Now most posts seem to be arguing about tipping, how too many people overpay and ruin the market, that the quality of the girls has declined, that Bangkok sucks, or how great the girls are at the shop that hired you to promote it; oh and to claim a girl who got a good recommendation in a report is not worth seeing so you can discourage others from booking her because you found she was indeed very good. And here I am wasting forum space arguing with you. Frankly, had I stumbled upon this forum in the last year or so rather than several years ago I would have thought it a waste of time and never gone back. In fact it has reached the point I ask myself, why do I still bother wasting my time here? I'm recalling a discussion I had with a fellow a couple of years ago. He lamented that eventually the good contributors get feed up and stop writing reports. I've been thinking more and more about his comment over the past few months. He said that 2 years ago. I wonder what it was like 4 years ago; and what it will be like in another 2 years. By the way, I am not claiming to be one of the good contributors. Others can read my reports and decide for themselves.

I spent the better part of May and the beginning of June in Bangkok and had enough interesting experiences for a dozen or more informative field reports. I can not motivate myself to write them. Finally I decided to write about a visit to Nataree, because after many visits (I've been visiting Bangkok for going on 20 years) during which neither I nor any of my friends, some of whom live in Bangkok, had ever been offered a BBBJ at Nataree I finally got one. And I wanted to share how it happened. By the way since this stupid argument began I sent emails to a few of these friends about being offered a BBBJ at Nataree. All said it had never happened to them.

Hell! F**k it! Okay all you newcomers to ISG who are looking for information about the soapies along Ratchada, *man is right. Go to Nataree for your BBBJs. Your odds of being offered one are as good as getting an odd number on a roll of a dice. And don't waste your money tipping people when they offer you a little extra help.

Thankfully, in six months Bangkok will be my home base for leisure travels in East and Southeast Asia; and I will have plenty of time to discover what I need to know for myself. No city is perfect, I've lived in plenty, but Bangkok has a lot to offer and it is filled with many wonderful ladies, a few of whom I am lucky enough to meet on every trip.

Uncle Volodya
07-10-15, 05:32
It certainly has. 4 or 5 years ago my favorite Oily was Angel Massage. They had nice girls and service was good and always included 2 shots in 90 or 120 minutes. The last time I went there was either 2011 or 2010. I took a good looking girl upstairs and she gave me a very good shag. Afterwards as we were cuddling and kissing, I suggested we take another shower so we would be ready for jam #2. She smiled and said, "only one boom boom per session". I was stunned and I didn't take her seriously so accustomed was I to the two shot session. So instead of negotiating or anything, I just laughed and said something like OK darling, don't kid me. We go boom boom one more time now. But she politely refused so I changed my tactics a little and suggested we take a shower together figuring I would seduce her with whatever it took in the shower. But no, as I started to soap up her ta ta's, she moved away and declined my advances. So I let her just clean me up and then I met her back on the bed.

We still had around 25 minutes left on the clock so I asked her what she wanted to do if not boom boom. She offered to give me another massage. I let her start to massage my back, but as I lay there I became frustrated and a little mad so after no more than 5 minutes I ended the session and began to get dressed. The girl was nonplussed. From her point of view she had done nothing wrong and had provided good service. Looking back I have to agree with her. The problem at the time was my ignorance of the policy change. No one told me! LOL. So I paid my tab downstairs at the counter which was around 2000 bt and change, but I did not tip her. She was still acting amenable and friendly like there was nothing wrong. As I was leaving, she stuck a lollipop in my mouth and asked me to come back to see her sometime. But I never went back to Angel Massage. I guess I took the session protocol change real personal and I never forgave that shop, my favorite oily at the time, for the much larger Paradigm Shift affecting all of BKK. In the meantime, the scene was changing in many ways with a lot of new shops opening up in the proximate neighborhood, some like Mango offering porn star service with multiple shags. Things change. I wonder how many other customers Angel lost that year.

Anyway, the bottom line is I am thinking it is probably long overdue that I go back and check out Angel again, if I can find the time. From their website it looks like they might have a few girls worth shagging. Who knows?

http://www.angelbangkok26.com/en/gallery.html555!!

I was just thinking about that place NB! This is the very place where I busted my Thailand Cherry my first trip out to LOS in 2008. Lovely experience! Ended up repeating with another girl and even taking her out LT. Great memories!

I've been meaning to check the place out but I spend most of my time in Pattaya these days.

Maybe my next trip? I fly out in 3 weeks and will spend a month in Patts. I want to get to BKK to do a little shopping so maybe I will stop by for an afternoon delight.

BkkMick
07-10-15, 07:41
Young man I used to tell my children the problem with the first lie is you have to keep lying and fudging what you really meant to weasel your way out of that first lie. I made it very clear from the beginning of this asinine argument the reason I am pissed off at you is because you are creating the false expectation that half the time without asking for it you will be offered a BBBJ at Nataree. Offered versus got. F**k you. It makes no damn difference. You are telling people they have a 50-50 chance of walking into Nataree and getting a BBBJ if they accept the offer. And by implication if the girl reaches for a condom by saying you want a BBBJ perhaps your odds of getting one will be better than 50-50. Whether they accept it or turn it down is irrelevant, idiot.

Perhaps if you are East Asian, a really good looking young guy fluent in Thai who has totally charmed the young lady by the time you are in the room or once in a while if you are lucky enough to pick the right girl you will be offered a BBBJ. And perhaps you are a really good looking young guy who is fluent in Thai; or maybe you have to compensate for something by telling tall tales; but for the average farang guy being offered a BBBJ at Nataree is unlikely.

Once upon a time the point of this forum was to share mongering experiences around the world, to pass on useful information and answer other mongers questions. That no longer seems to be the case. Now most posts seem to be arguing about tipping, how too many people overpay and ruin the market, that the quality of the girls has declined, that Bangkok sucks, or how great the girls are at the shop that hired you to promote it; oh and to claim a girl who got a good recommendation in a report is not worth seeing so you can discourage others from booking her because you found she was indeed very good. And here I am wasting forum space arguing with you. Frankly, had I stumbled upon this forum in the last year or so rather than several years ago I would have thought it a waste of time and never gone back. In fact it has reached the point I ask myself, why do I still bother wasting my time here? I'm recalling a discussion I had with a fellow a couple of years ago. He lamented that eventually the good contributors get feed up and stop writing reports. I've been thinking more and more about his comment over the past few months. He said that 2 years ago. I wonder what it was like 4 years ago; and what it will be like in another 2 years. By the way, I am not claiming to be one of the good contributors. Others can read my reports and decide for themselves.

I spent the better part of May and the beginning of June in Bangkok and had enough interesting experiences for a dozen or more informative field reports. I can not motivate myself to write them. Finally I decided to write about a visit to Nataree, because after many visits (I've been visiting Bangkok for going on 20 years) during which neither I nor any of my friends, some of whom live in Bangkok, had ever been offered a BBBJ at Nataree I finally got one. And I wanted to share how it happened. By the way since this stupid argument began I sent emails to a few of these friends about being offered a BBBJ at Nataree. All said it had never happened to them.

Hell! F**k it! Okay all you newcomers to ISG who are looking for information about the soapies along Ratchada, *man is right. Go to Nataree for your BBBJs. Your odds of being offered one are as good as getting an odd number on a roll of a dice. And don't waste your money tipping people when they offer you a little extra help.

Thankfully, in six months Bangkok will be my home base for leisure travels in East and Southeast Asia; and I will have plenty of time to discover what I need to know for myself. No city is perfect, I've lived in plenty, but Bangkok has a lot to offer and it is filled with many wonderful ladies, a few of whom I am lucky enough to meet on every trip.Paul, well stated. I thought moaning and bitching was confined to the Bangkok report forum. Now it has reached the Oilies Forum as well.

Seems to me that for one constructive report there are a dozen of useless arguments and newbies that cannot be bothered to RTFF.

I have given up writing reports because there are none of value in return and if anything as you know, too much information given got me into hot water with the girls because some idiots here on the forum that misconstrue the information and abuse it.

EihTooms
07-10-15, 08:16
Young man I used to tell my children the problem with the first lie is you have to keep lying and fudging what you really meant to weasel your way out of that first lie. I made it very clear from the beginning of this asinine argument the reason I am pissed off at you is because you are creating the false expectation that half the time without asking for it you will be offered a BBBJ at Nataree. Offered versus got. F**k you. It makes no damn difference. You are telling people they have a 50-50 chance of walking into Nataree and getting a BBBJ if they accept the offer. And by implication if the girl reaches for a condom by saying you want a BBBJ perhaps your odds of getting one will be better than 50-50. Whether they accept it or turn it down is irrelevant, idiot.

Perhaps if you are East Asian, a really good looking young guy fluent in Thai who has totally charmed the young lady by the time you are in the room or once in a while if you are lucky enough to pick the right girl you will be offered a BBBJ. And perhaps you are a really good looking young guy who is fluent in Thai; or maybe you have to compensate for something by telling tall tales; but for the average farang guy being offered a BBBJ at Nataree is unlikely...Just for clarification, can we get a bit more of a definition of terms on this issue re Nataree and perhaps other soapys? By "BBBJ" are we merely talking about oral foreplay before a condom is slipped on for whatever follows that leads to a finish? Or are we talking about BBBJ to completion or, better yet, to a cum in mouth finish? I know there are specific abbreviations for these terms, like BBBJ CIM (Bare Back BJ with Cum In Mouth) and BBBJTC (Bare Back BJ To Completion). But I have noticed the term BBBJ is bandied about on many of these message boards as though it is one or the other of those activities, when more often than not it is neither.

So, when someone says they were "offered a BBBJ", I immediately think they are talking about a BBBJ that finishes more or less orally, and is not merely oral foreplay. Would a girl at Nataree actually stop what she is doing during the course of foreplay, massaging, cuddling, kissing the chest or whatever and then "offer" to engage in mere oral foreplay with or without a condom, up to the customer? My god, are they really so formal and, worse, formulaic in Nataree?

On the other hand, I could see a soapy provider (or a papasan) asking a customer if he wanted a BJ instead of FS and that leading to a more specific question or offer of "with" or "without" a condom.

I suppose this is as much if not more a question for *man as it is for you, Paul Kausch. So I would be interested in his input on this too.

As for the difference between "offering" and "getting" a BBBJ at Nataree is concerned (in my case, a BBBJ CIM), I can attest to the fact that there was a HUGE difference between the two the one and only time I visited Nataree a few years ago. LOL. I asked the papasan which girl would provide a BBBJ CIM during the massage, he pointed to a couple of attractive young girls, I chose one and there was not a BBBJ CIM to be had in that room. I said, "the papasan said you would do that for me. " Her response was the all purpose "No can. " It would take a lot of convincing and a whole new set of house rules in Nataree for me to set foot in that place again. I am all for honoring a girl's wish not to do whatever the hell she doesn't want to do. But I hate being lied to about it from her or from a papasan / mamasan.

Scorchin
07-10-15, 08:34
Seems to me that for one constructive report there are a dozen of useless arguments and newbies that cannot be bothered to RTFF.

Well said. Some months I posted that it seemed to me that 'reports' were either one line questions or one line comments but thre were very few REPORTS.

Seems to me that too many can't be bothered to go through a year's posts to gather information before asking / commenting on another post.

Kuratla
07-10-15, 10:16
Aye. There are far too few. The main reason I check this forum is to see about any new places or nymphos out there. To see if they seem interesting enough for me to visit or not.

Unfortunately, my own written reports have been few as I don't monger so much these days (concentrating more on working out and lifting) and, usually, when I do monger it's with a few regulars whom I've already written about so there's no point in writing reports about the same girls over and over again.

AirlineCrew
07-10-15, 11:46
I am trying to put up a post whenever I monger somewhere but I just fail to put any energy in it.

Maybe it's because of the feeling that I'm saying nothing that has not been said before but what really puts me down is the reactions I sometimes get from people in my inbox.

I had a fun session in Nairobi and wrote a report on it, even stating that I can't go out of my hotel for security reasons and that I had to set up my dates online. And yes apparently I paid the girl 3 x as much as normally is the case when you get a girl from a bar. You would not believe the flak I got from other punters, this really puts me off and ever since my reports have become less and less. I'm not on these boards to be called names by other guys that I don't even know or know me.

This forum has helped me a lot in my first years of mongering, but I'm at a point now where I don't need it anymore and know my way around most places I visit. Still I feel obligated to write in whenever I find something new or can tell a funny story. But when I get pm's that my reports are too long or that there was nothing in there worth reading, or this forum is solely meant for p4 p and not for freebie fucks, I just lose interest in going here anymore.

And for anyone that also feel this is not a forum for freebies, the point is getting laid right?? I always provide the information where I found my freebie. 99% of the time I don't write any freebie report because there is nothing new to tell. Sites like DIA or Thaifriendly are well known so I don't write about it but if I find a freebie in a way that I never hear anyone else speak off I think it's worthwhile mentioning.

I feel we need to be more respectful and less demanding or trying to lay down the law just because they feel the forum should be how they want it to be (of course I'm not talking about the forum rules). Although the newbies are a pain and the bullshitting and boasting should stop.

On Nataree though: I can only say that my first time there was terrific, I did actually get a BBBJ, not two shots though. The two times after where not that great, covered BJ and poor service compared to the massage shops. I'm at a point of not going there anymore if it wasn't for the gorgeous girls I see there everytime.

Traveler1234
07-10-15, 14:10
Maybe it's because of the feeling that I'm saying nothing that has not been said before but what really puts me down is the reactions I sometimes get from people in my inbox.
.... You would not believe the flak I got from other punters, this really puts me off and ever since my reports have become less and less. I'm not on these boards to be called names by other guys that I don't even know or know me.

And for anyone that also feel this is not a forum for freebies, the point is getting laid right??

Well said. Yep, it's not LOS that has gone downhill, it's ISG. POV.

Member #4698
07-10-15, 15:20
I was just thinking about that place (Angel Massage) NB! This is the very place where I busted my Thailand Cherry my first trip out to LOS in 2008. Lovely experience! Ended up repeating with another girl and even taking her out LT. Great memories!

I've been meaning to check the place out but I spend most of my time in Pattaya these days.

Maybe my next trip? I fly out in 3 weeks and will spend a month in Patts. I want to get to BKK to do a little shopping so maybe I will stop by for an afternoon delight.Have a great trip Uncle V. I know you will. Pat in the rainy season can't be beat. NO TOURISTS! It's too bad our orbits are not going to cross this season because I think it would have been fun to hit I-Bar / Insomnia together.

Let me know how it went if you decide to check out Angel again. We all remember where our cherries got busted. For me, it was in Queens Castle, Patpong 1 back in '89. Rock and' Roll was still played in the Go Go's and pussy was hairy. I remember the girls dancing appropriately enough to "Honky Tonk Woman". I had a memorable time.

"She tried to take me upstairs for a ride
She had to heave me right across her shoulder
'Cause I just can't seem to drink you off my mind"

Traveler1234
07-10-15, 17:04
We all remember where our cherries got busted. 1977, at old Darling, Patpong across from Dusit Thani. Worse MP experience of my life but thank god made up for it the next day at MP that my host took me to. They had to call us after 2+ hrs to finish!

Biffduff
07-10-15, 17:30
My cherry got popped at Baron around Thonglor in about February of 2005. The famous Saeng was the provider and I still cringe when I remember how many times she had to tell me to 'relax' - total newbie at that point, but I learned quickly! Nestle and some other superstars from the (most recent) good old days followed after that and I'm still finding ways to have a blast.

I must agree with some of the folks who have posted recently about the lack of useful information (not just in this particular section of the forum). It gets a bit tedious wading through arguments and pissing contests when I'm really just looking for some up-to-date information. I try to post when I have memorable experiences (all too infrequent lately) and I don't think it's a bad thing to re-confirm information that is already 'known'. We all know that the scene can change on a dime, so sometimes just a post saying that the status quo is still in effect isn't such a bad thing.

Regardless, I hope the zeitgeist of this board has not been irrevocably changed. There are so many different experiences to share and so much aggregate useful knowledge that I really hope we can all just get along!

Turgid
07-11-15, 03:27
I had a fun session in Nairobi and wrote a report on it, even stating that I can't go out of my hotel for security reasons and that I had to set up my dates online. And yes apparently I paid the girl 3 x as much as normally is the case when you get a girl from a bar. You would not believe the flak I got from other punters, this really puts me off and ever since my reports have become less and less. I'm not on these boards to be called names by other guys that I don't even know or know me......
I feel we need to be more respectful and less demanding or trying to lay down the law just because they feel the forum should be how they want it to be (of course I'm not talking about the forum rules). Although the newbies are a pain and the bullshitting and boasting should stop.
Most people who give others flak on this board are people who scout ISG seeking to do just that. You will see them posting in many different countries most or all of which they have not visited. I suspect they are either people with physical or mental health issues or cannot afford to travel. It is best to ignore them.

Whoreman
07-11-15, 07:37
This forum was great years ago and it's still great. There's a wealth of information about different MPs and providers. There's always been newbies asking basic questions and discussions about tipping that never really get anywhere. If that's so bad for you that you need to start abusing other posters then you clearly need to take some time off from the forum. One thing's for sure, calling others posters liar, moron and telling them to f* o** isn't adding anything to the forum. Nor are the long, tedious rants about a golden age that never was.

Whoreman
07-11-15, 07:56
So, when someone says they were "offered a BBBJ", I immediately think they are talking about a BBBJ that finishes more or less orally, and is not merely oral foreplay. Would a girl at Nataree actually stop what she is doing during the course of foreplay, massaging, cuddling, kissing the chest or whatever and then "offer" to engage in mere oral foreplay with or without a condom, up to the customer? My god, are they really so formal and, worse, formulaic in Nataree?
That is exactly what some of them do. The modus operandi of a lot of girls is to get you to lie down, start kissing your neck, kiss down the chest, lick the nipples, kissing and licking down the stomach and then some of them will literally pause and pick up the condom and a CBJ follows. Others will kiss their way down to your cock and balls which I take as an indication she's happy to give a BBBJ (although I put on a condom regardless). For me oral has always just been a prelude to full sex in Nataree.

LA Guy 5
07-11-15, 10:56
That is exactly what some of them do. The modus operandi of a lot of girls is to get you to lie down, start kissing your neck, kiss down the chest, lick the nipples, kissing and licking down the stomach and then some of them will literally pause and pick up the condom and a CBJ follows. Others will kiss their way down to your cock and balls which I take as an indication she's happy to give a BBBJ (although I put on a condom regardless). For me oral has always just been a prelude to full sex in Nataree.Actually, in my experience some girls will kiss their way down to your cock and balls, do a little bit of sucking, nibbling or tongueing on the side and underside of the cock without putting the tip in their mouth, and then as they work their way up the cock will eventually put the condom on before putting the cock in their mouth. Accordingly, until they have your cock in their mouth, you cannot really know whether or not the BJ is going to be covered or not unless you have pre-negotiated for a BBBJ, which I understand you don't do.

Syzygies
07-11-15, 12:40
Let me know how it went if you decide to check out Angel again. We all remember where our cherries got busted. For me, it was in Queens Castle, Patpong 1 back in '89. Rock and' Roll was still played in the Go Go's and pussy was hairy. I remember the girls dancing appropriately enough to "Honky Tonk Woman". I had a memorable time.
Wow that long ago and you can still remember. I have been to QC but probably in about 91 or so.

I struggle to remember my first real full sex in Thailand. Possibly 1991 and maybe a bargirl in Cowboy. LT price was 500 and some girls went for only 400. BF, I forget. Maybe I went to the Thermae Soapy Massage first before the bar. It all fades for me. I do remember the girls though. Thermae Coffee Shop was great. The Grace coffee shop, not so great. Nana Plaza either did not exist or was not yet popular. A few Pat Pong bars were O.K., especially Kangaroo bar for lunch time BJ and maybe full sex too.

I can still contact my Thermae Massage girl. She is over 40 know and retired many years ago. One of her close pretty friends, that I never sessioned with, has HIV after many years of bare backing.

In about '81 I was in Thailand and did have two soapy massages with naked girls, one in BKK and one in Chiangmai, but neither was full sex. I was really paranoid about catching an STD as wife was in Thailand too. In case of the first one, I did not know the price and did not have much money with me, and the girl had no English whatsoever. LOL. Was an accidental encounter. Was a Soapy MP in perhaps Soi 2 of Sukhumvit (not Annies), but no one can even remember this place or exactly where it was. Possibly called the Golden Gate. Possibly not. Even the "Midnite Hour" historians know nothing about Soapy Massage places that long ago, and perhaps Aey's mother Annie will know. I need to talk to "the Matriarch".

All this talk about CBJs mystifies me. I haven't had one for years. Its a while since I took a girl at Nataree too, so who knows.

I hope most will forgive us a little reminiscing. I normally am mindful that posts ought to contain useful information about good places to go, or hot girls to check out. I am sure I will back to a little mongering in a couple of weeks. My mongering in Thailand did drop seriously away for a while with most of my favourites stopped working, leaving me with no Soapy favourites, maybe one MP semi-regular girl and 2 or 3 favourite bar girls. Even our favourite Suzie girl has stopped working for now and may be being loyal to a sponsor. I believe she has invited me to just go out for dinner. LOL I still have 2 or 3 girls at Crazy House (hopefully they are still there) that are pretty good for me, one of them needs a few Tequilas though before she goes wild. Another performs great, but badly if drunk. Ha Ha. Different strategy for different girls.

My very most favourite girls have retired. One I would have considered settling down with, she was so wonderful. So I am a bit sad.

LA Guy 5
07-11-15, 22:25
All this talk about CBJs mystifies me. I haven't had one for years. Its a while since I took a girl at Nataree too, so who knows.
Nothing to be mystified by. To the best of my recollection the only place I have had a CBJ in Bangkok the last ten years is Nataree. Then again I rarely go to soapies and perhaps ninety percent of my sessions are at the PSE oilies, with a smathering of go-go experiences thrown in.

Canyon
07-11-15, 23:19
I just finished looking at the website for All Stars, and it took away my breath. Most of the girls are beautiful. I haven't been there for several years, but I don't remember there being so many beauties there. Could someone who has been there this year let me know if the girls look as good as the photos or are the pictures even close? Also, how was the service?

Canyon.

Whoreman
07-12-15, 00:14
I like All Stars. On the website they have photoshopped and unphotoshopped pictures and the girls look the same as in the unphotoshopped ones. Last time I was there I told the mamasan I was looking for a young girl with no babies and only Jin matched that description. I don't go looking for a PSE but the service was good enough for me.

To be honest, they have some nice girls but definitely not breathtakingly beautiful. if you're expecting that you may be disappointed.

Blanquiceleste
07-12-15, 04:38
We all remember where our cherries got busted. For me, it was in Queens Castle, Patpong 1 back in '89. Rock and' Roll was still played in the Go Go's and pussy was hairy. I remember the girls dancing appropriately enough to "Honky Tonk Woman". I had a memorable time.Ahh. Those cherry memories. Mine was at Electric Blue back in 1999. Clubs played real music back then, and I remember the girl too. Mana. I took her back to the hotel and I kept her with me for the next 3 days. I think I was young and naive back then and I thought I was in love. LOL.

You're as smooth as Tennessee whiskey.

You're as sweet as strawberry wine.

You're as warm as a glass of brandy.

And I stay stoned on your love all the time.

And then the next session was a real wild one. The soundscape changed.

I was shakin's at the knees.

Could I come again please.

And the ladies were too kind.

You've been. Thunderstruck!

Cheers to good times gents!

LachieDog
07-12-15, 07:14
Paul, well stated. I thought moaning and bitching was confined to the Bangkok report forum. Now it has reached the Oilies Forum as well.

Seems to me that for one constructive report there are a dozen of useless arguments and newbies that cannot be bothered to RTFF.

I have given up writing reports because there are none of value in return and if anything as you know, too much information given got me into hot water with the girls because some idiots here on the forum that misconstrue the information and abuse it.The only reason I ever joined ISG was to read tales of those fortunate enough to be in a place I would love to be, shagging girls I'd like to be shagging. Living the dream through others. I have been to Thailand many times and usually do my own exploring and adventures. ISG has been useful to find some places I would never have gone to with out reading about them and some places I have no interest in going to. It has provided me with information on some of the ladies that I knew I wanted to meet. Sadly I can't meet all of them and many of the one I have read glowing reports about are now retired or sponsored or both. I have had opportunity to pay many of them a visit in past trips but got side tracked and also had the belief that they would be there on the next trip. Bad mistake-one should strike while the irons hot. One of my most memorable experiences was Dao from Tulips and she was a lady I finally tracked down and got over my initial coyness and she lived up to expectations. That is the reason I read and follow ISG. To be updated on the whereabouts of certain ladies and the performance of others and what oilies etc are the best to go to. Unfortunately there is a lot of fantasists and bullshitters on here who want to carry on about insignificant things just to read there own post. BKK Mick you are not one of these. I have read most of your posts on this forum and have enjoyed all your field reports and tales as well as your on the ground updates. I hope you continue to write some reports as there would be many guys on here who really enjoy reading them and also your information from the coalface. I respect your decision not to pass on personal details of the ladies without asking them but it would be much appreciated to have the number of Ice as she is another lady that I have read good reports of and would like to have the Ice experience. PM of course if you so decide.

AirlineCrew
07-12-15, 10:03
I like All Stars. On the website they have photoshopped and unphotoshopped pictures and the girls look the same as in the unphotoshopped ones. Last time I was there I told the mamasan I was looking for a young girl with no babies and only Jin matched that description. I don't go looking for a PSE but the service was good enough for me.

To be honest, they have some nice girls but definitely not breathtakingly beautiful. if you're expecting that you may be disappointed.I have to admit, I've never been there myself. I guess once you get good service from some girls at a certain shop you just go back to that one. I've only been to snowwhite and cherry myself. But now that I've seen their website I have to agree, there are some girls on there that I would really like to try sometime.

Since you have been there could you tell us if the service is the same like the shops I mentioned before. Recently there have been these talks of one shot only and the extra charge for anal. And all stars seems to add 1000 baht for anal service WTF!

That alone is reason enough for me not to go there we should not encourage shops to try that out, before you know it all shops hop onto that bandwagon and it will be common to pay extra for anal. Not that I do that a lot, but from time to time.

Syzygies
07-12-15, 10:19
I just finished looking at the website for All Stars, and it took away my breath. Most of the girls are beautiful. I haven't been there for several years, but I don't remember there being so many beauties there. Could someone who has been there this year let me know if the girls look as good as the photos or are the pictures even close? Also, how was the service?

Canyon.I think you exaggerate somewhat. A few are beautiful after makeup, photo shopping etc. If your expectations are too high, you will be disappointed. I have been to this shop to compare reality with pics before. Some nice girls. I am sure I will look again.

Always tough to find stunners in the Oilies. Occasionally find one but they don't seem to last that long on average.

Syzygies
07-12-15, 10:39
Since you have been there could you tell us if the service is the same like the shops I mentioned before. Recently there have been these talks of one shot only and the extra charge for anal. And all stars seems to add 1000 baht for anal service WTF!
As prices have been stagnant for many years, extras are the normal way girls find to make more money. Supermarket bills are always on the rise.

Also they generally don't want to be fucked in the ass. So charging for it is a way of discouraging those types of customer. They probably prefer a different type of customer, or they probably don't mind doing anal for Asian customers who are more likely to be willing to pay the extra.

I think the objective is to drive away certain types of customer to the more PSE shops. These customers are probably considered to want far too much for 1500 (actually probably 1400 to the girl less expenses).

If you want a good priced PSE, you will go to Tulip, Snow White, etc. If you want a more middle of the road service with maybe slightly better looking girls then All Stars maybe the go. I am looking for really beautiful girls with almost perfect bodies or at least something very special, so I tend to mostly go elsewhere, and I expect to pay more. I am happy if can find them in Oilies but it is very rare. I don't need a PSE. Prefer a dream girl for looks with GFE.

Benchen
07-12-15, 11:55
Would any of you know if there would be saunas in Bangkok that are similar to East Castle Spa in Macau?

Not sure if anybody knows this place but they have themed rooms in which they simulate a car wash, an airplane. And off course you can do your thing there with the girl you picked earlier.

I've checked the forum and other websites intensively and so far didn't find anything that sounds to be similar.

Appreciate the help.

Traveler1234
07-12-15, 12:30
I like All Stars. On the website they have photoshopped and unphotoshopped pictures and the girls look the same as in the unphotoshopped ones. Last time I was there I told the mamasan I was looking for a young girl with no babies and only Jin matched that description. I did a FR couple years back on them.AllStars and EZ are related and both do have real nice line-up.

I had two room service visits by EZ gals and they were both better looking in person and GFE. BUT strictly 1 shot policy. Others have reported getting lucky with 2 shots but if you visit, make sure before hand.

Eric Swiss
07-12-15, 12:57
Given how often Mango is mentioned on this forum, I thought I would give it a try. I had Snow White and Cherry lined up as back-ups in case the line-up wasn't to my taste, given that they are in the same PSE category and just around the corner. However that turned out to be unnecessary because out of the 8 or 9 girls shown to me, there were a few that were do-able. I picked May, who was the only one not wearing a red top. She wore white with red polka dots, although her skirt was regulation-red.

Her pictures on the Mango website are faithful, but since her face is blurred, I can tell you the inside scoop: her face looks very good! She has a great smile, lively eyes, and speaks good English. She is 28, but I would have given her 2-3 years less. Her body is in great shape. Tits small, though, so be warned.

The premises at Mango are more worn-out than at Addict, but still clean.

Everybody's got his fantasy, and mine is to be able to fuck a girl as long as I want. So I did three things I do not normally do: 1) I chose a PSE shop (Mango), 2) I paid for 1 h30 instead of 1 hour, 3) I said boom-boom first then massage instead of the opposite. Normally I like to build up tactile rapport, but sometimes you've got to bend the rules.

BBBJ was OK, condom on, she started to fuck me cowgirl style, and then my dick took over. I was flipping her through all the positions in the book (the five I know at least, unless Reverse Asian Cowgirl counts as different from Reverse Cowgirl? And then, right in the middle of it, I thought: this is a PSE shop, I've got 1 h30 in front of me, I can go on banging like this forever.

This feeling of being able to just go on banging the chick forever: priceless. Well, 2100 Baht actually, but that's a detail.

Anyway, fast forward: release, mini-shower down there, very decent massage, honest try for second pop but I left her off the hook easily.

Overall: Really liked her looks, her attitude was a bit detached, not quite as into it as I am accustomed to getting from some of the other girls. Would I repeat? Mango yes, her probably no.

One regret: I should have asked for the book where they say what each girl does. Then, had I known, I would have banged her up the ass just for the heck of it.

Eric Swiss
07-12-15, 13:28
I am looking for really beautiful girls with almost perfect bodies or at least something very special, so I tend to mostly go elsewhere, and I expect to pay more. I am happy if can find them in Oilies but it is very rare. I don't need a PSE. Prefer a dream girl for looks with GFE.You are being tantalizingly mysterious! Please do give a hint to those of us who may be looking for the same Graal. Nataree sideliners? Climax freelancers? Pattaya? Would ask you this by PM but sadly it does not seem to be an option.

Member #4698
07-12-15, 14:25
Allstar has a detailed price list for various "extras". I do not know of any other massage parlor with such an extensive list of "extras". The list turns me off (what will they charge extra for next - DFK ? Licking a girl's nipples ? Making her cum? LOL! ). Fortunately I prefer straight sex with a pretty girl: DFK, BBBJ, possibly some DATY depending on the girl, and vaginal intercourse in various positions to completion with a little passion or at least some friendly relations shown throughout. If a punter is seeking anal or he just wants to cum on a girl's tits or face for some reason, I suggest he go to a nearby porn shop.

I have never been to Allstar although I am a semi regular EZ massage parlor customer. As Traveler1234 has pointed out, the 3 shops are related. I like a couple of the EZ girls and their service by my standard was always pretty good. I now notice that EZ has an extra price list too:

*extra 1000B for "COF","CIM",lesbien and anal (1-2hours)
*extra 2000B for "COF","CIM",lesbien and anal (3hours over)

What is this world cuming to? 555.

Traveler1234
07-12-15, 15:42
You are being tantalizingly mysterious! Please do give a hint He has extensive FR, just got to look and read. For instance, besides the PSE oilies on Soi 24 and 26 there are a number of other shops that offer younger, better looking gals but 1 shot and slightly higher premium pricing.

Hint: Big Boss is one :D


I am a semi regular EZ massage parlor customer.
What is this world cuming to? 555.

On the plus side, EZ booking on-line is very professional and prompt. Whoever is answering the email inquiries makes a real effort to answer all your questions, etc. The two times I had room service, it was all done on-line. So when I landed from states, 1 hr after checking into hotel, dessert was served!

Eric Swiss
07-12-15, 16:28
He has extensive FR, just got to look and read. For instance, besides the PSE oilies on Soi 24 and 26 there are a number of other shops that offer younger, better looking gals but 1 shot and slightly higher premium pricing.

Hint: Big Boss is one :D

OK, thanks for the hint!

Canyon
07-12-15, 20:12
I think you exaggerate somewhat. A few are beautiful after makeup, photo shopping etc. If your expectations are too high, you will be disappointed. I have been to this shop to compare reality with pics before. Some nice girls. I am sure I will look again.

Always tough to find stunners in the Oilies. Occasionally find one but they don't seem to last that long on average.Syzgies:

I don't think I'm exaggerating about the photos on the website. They are much more beautiful than any of the similar sites. However, you may be right (and probably are) that they are not as good-looking in real life, as they are in the photos. In any case, even if the photos are enhanced, they still seem to be the best-looking ones I've seen in the other places. That's why I posted-to see if the photos were close to reality or not. I would appreciate any comments from patrons of All Stars in terms of the looks of the ladies. In any case, I plan to try All Stars when I'm in BKK in August and I'll report back.

Canyon.

Whoreman
07-13-15, 05:08
I've had a few of those girls on the website and they all looked better in real life than in the photos. But when I ask to see the line-up most of the girls are fairly average-looking to me. Most of them have had babies, which is a no-no for me. They get a lot of repeat Japanese customers who often book the better-looking girls in advance.

Look carefully at the photos on the website. Look at Tartar for example:

http://www.allstarsbkk.com/index.php?p=profiles&n=14.TATAR

There are 4 photoshopped pictures and 1 non-photoshopped. Obviously, her real appearance is the same as the non-photoshopped one. Hardly 'breathtakingly beautiful' is she?

It's not a PSE place so if you want stuff like deepthroating and anal you should stick to Mango, Cherry etc. It's more comparable to places like Addict and Touch of Class. Have you checked out those websites? There are plenty of places in the area that have girls of a similar standard.

Wolvenvacht
07-13-15, 07:05
http://www.allstarsbkk.com/index.php?p=profiles&n=14.TATAR

There are 4 photoshopped pictures and 1 non-photoshopped. Obviously, her real appearance is the same as the non-photoshopped one. Hardly 'breathtakingly beautiful' is she?
Nothing that cannot be solved with some beer and soft light in the room. ;)

HoleScout69
07-13-15, 08:57
Any recent good experiences on Soi 11? For anal girls.

I was recently doing a country trip to Nakhon Panom to check out the ladies there were most of the best porn star performers come from. Now I'm about to start checking out Soi 11 for any deep throat or anal girls and if none are found I will train one then report back for any less experienced members to try out and report back on.

Sunlover2
07-13-15, 11:23
Look carefully at the photos on the website. Look at Tartar for example:

http://www.allstarsbkk.com/index.php?p=profiles&n=14.TATAR

There are 4 photoshopped pictures and 1 non-photoshopped. Obviously, her real appearance is the same as the non-photoshopped one. Hardly 'breathtakingly beautiful' is she?Good example. To my eye there is a quite a difference in the four more professional photos of Tartar and the one more candid snapshot.

On an average day the PSE shop ladies do not get overly dolled up when waiting for customers. I prefer candid shots as I find they are closer to the way the girl will appear. In my experience they will then look even better in person, and I like to have my expectations exceeded.

And when it comes to pictures I concentrate more on the body type anyway which is harder to gloss over. I look for skinny arms which equals to a petite skinny lady.

SunLover.

Francesco24
07-14-15, 09:58
I had an 1 hour session with Kim at Cherry massage shop.

She looks quite good overall. More kind face than in the pictures, still a bit on the mature side. The body is really spinner / petite / firm, really good and better than many younger girls. Boobs are silicon but not so hard (when not lay down).

Good DFK, good BBBJ (no DT, actually quite not deep at all), good sex. No rimming. Didn't ask for anal nor I was offered it. Not really PSE.

PRICE 1500+400.

Overall was good, if I had more money available I would repeat her too. But with my limited 2-3 times per month I usually prefer to find someone new. Anyway may repeat for sure as a second option.

Kuratla
07-14-15, 16:35
Still don't have multiple pics of the individual girls (just one per) but nice to see some up-to-date pics. Nana is showing off her greatest assets and looks like Nook is getting into position for a good rooting.

Christian G
07-14-15, 16:56
Any recent good experiences on Soi 11? For anal girls.Last month I interviewed 3 nice and young girls in the massages shop in soi 11 next to Villa Market, when I ask for anal they said absolutely NO!

Kuratla
07-15-15, 00:55
I had an 1 hour session with Kim at Cherry massage shop.

She looks quite good overall. More kind face than in the pictures, still a bit on the mature side. The body is really spinner / petite / firm, really good and better than many younger girls. Boobs are silicon but not so hard (when not lay down).

Good DFK, good BBBJ (no DT, actually quite not deep at all), good sex. No rimming. Didn't ask for anal nor I was offered it. Not really PSE.

PRICE 1500+400.

Overall was good, if I had more money available I would repeat her too. But with my limited 2-3 times per month I usually prefer to find someone new. Anyway may repeat for sure as a second option.Good stuff, mate. I admit that her pictures in the site have caught my eye and my interest. I'm a sucker for MILFs anyway. But good to know her skills are solid and her body is fine.

Jean Sean
07-15-15, 03:29
Wow for sure, business must really be down for EZ2 to resort to paid advertisements, LOL!


Went to EZ2 today on Soi 24. My mate told me about Ning, so I had a try. Was unsure as seemed a bit tired but in the room and in the shower a switch flicked. Very hot body, great tits. The massage was pathetic but the sex was as close to a GFE in a massage place I've had. Anyway, she must have been really horny, sometimes it just all works out!A little month ago I was on my way to Bongkot to repeat a visit from the day before, but the heat in Bangkok (or was it that my 6th consecutive daily fuck) was taking it's toll and I felt physically miserable. So changed plans and headed towards EZ2, hoping to be nursed by a nice looker (3rd EZ visit that week).

Picked Ning, up in the room before showering we talked a lot, about this and that, another EZ-girl from Chiang Mai I wanted to meet again, and so on. Ning is from Bangkok, an easy talker, her English is OK, she's a confident young lady. Only a small tattoo on her neck, decorative braces, I saw no stretch marks.

I don't know if massage is pathetic as reported above as there wasn't any massage at all. After shower she lay down and wanted action right away.

I started out softly, she's got a great body and confirmed: great tits, maybe not quite as big as they look in her pictures but firm, non-damaged. Then DATY for a long time, I mean really long time, fine teen-ish taste and smell, she was soaking wet, liked good tongue fucking as well. No fingering though. Then she stopped, grabbed a towel and cleaned up my smeared face, flipped me over, and with her hands on the wall she indulged into face-sitting, still soaking wet her juices all over my face, I had to lift her a couple of times for breathing. Then reverse still face-sitting that eventually turned into 69. Time for condom, then CG, reverse CG. I swapped her condom with one of my own before fucking her in doggy, then missionary until I finished. She went straight in the shower, no sweet bedside talking. Which was good as I was so exhausted that I couldn't talk anyway.

Once in the sack Ning was a naughty little surprise. Probably the best fuck I had in BKK that whole week.

Meaty
07-15-15, 07:07
Been a while since I've hit an oily, been using some regulars from CL to meet at a ST hotel to 'quench my thirst'.

A few weeks ago I found myself with time in the Suk Soi 26 area, around 12 pm.

I quite fancied the Otemachi office uniform massage, but I couldn't find enough details / reviews, my fear was it was a 1 shot place charging 1,000 be more than a normal oily.

Baron's and Tulip are old favourites of mine so I went to Snow White.

Greeted nicely, I enquired for a lady skilled at deepthroat, the desk lady usehered me into the back room where the girls were and asked those that could DT to put their hands up.

Surprisingly 6 out of the 7 girls raised their hands. I'm not convinced!!

I settled on a bigger framed lady, Pooky, she appeared to have huge breasts and a naughty look. I also quite liked the look of Pimmy, very small frame, cute. I went up with Pooky and when we reached the room I asked her if she could work with Pimmy. Lesbian and the like, she assured me that would be no problem, so off she went to collect Pimmy for me.

They both gave me a great shower, very pleasurable, and it was clear they could easily work together, they kissed, touched and they dolled out a few arse slaps to each other.

Pimmy did start with a nice deep BBBJ in the shower while Pooky tried to remove my tonsils with her tongue!

Onto the bed and Pimmy decided it was her turn to see how far down my throat her tongue could go while Pooky started licking and rimming her.

The action was passionate, they both faked very well!

I took them both in turn, both A+, but honestly on and off condoms is such a buzz kill, (but I get the safetly aspect).

At one point Pooky checked to see what I'd had for lunch, its a strange sensation, lieing on your back with your legs pushed towards your stomach, the act itself feels nice, but the position is not!

I'd only asked for the 1 HR, knowing if things were great I could simply extend (and that they would get down to business nice and quickly).

My parting shot was sandwiched between them both as our 3 tongues entwined together and a thouroughly strong and fast HJ was administered. I felt bad that some of my enjoyment landed on Pooky's hair!

It was a fun time, a lot of seriously passionate DFK, Pimmy could DT, and was good, Pooky could not but she had a great wet mouth technique. Both girls felt tight in all 4 holes, medically induced perhaps?

I left to the sound of begs to extend my stay, but in all honesty, the 1 hour had done it for me, and I was needed elsewhere.

I paid and tipped the girls and gave them the fee for downstairs as well, they asked me to come back tomorrow!

Side notes: Pimmy has no breasts, she also has VERY sharp teeth, didn't feel them once during the BJ, but during the DFK it was noticeable.

Pooky is a little nuts, won't let you rest until she cum's. Again great actress! And don't be fooled by the very technical bra, she has small breasts as well, I was very shocked as they simply disappeared as the bra came off!

I'd repeat, but only if in the area.

Devinn38
07-15-15, 10:34
Does anyone know if outcall can be arranged from Nataree? Nataree does not have a website. I have RTFF and also done a search but can find nothing. Any information would be appreciated.

Syzygies
07-17-15, 15:18
Syzgies:

I don't think I'm exaggerating about the photos on the website. They are much more beautiful than any of the similar sites. However, you may be right (and probably are) that they are not as good-looking in real life, as they are in the photos. In any case, even if the photos are enhanced, they still seem to be the best-looking ones I've seen in the other places. That's why I posted-to see if the photos were close to reality or not. I would appreciate any comments from patrons of All Stars in terms of the looks of the ladies. In any case, I plan to try All Stars when I'm in BKK in August and I'll report back.

Canyon.I would say 3 of the girls look quite okay When you check out their un-photo-shopped pics, by drilling down. But not really stunning. It is not easy to compare to other sites since some don't have any non-photo-shopped pics. Comparing the normal pic with other sites I don't see anything so exceptional.

Best way is to go there at a good time of day, and just go into all of the shops on Soi 24/1 and also SW and also Mango and others around there and see which place really has a super looker of any type, for your taste. Next problem is the gamble. You haven't seen her with gear off yet.

I am happy to look for very beautiful girls in bars like Crazy House, because I get to see them dance for a while under bright lights. I get to see the entire body naked. I can call over 2 or 3 prospective girls for a drink and see if I like the personality. Then I still have to gamble on her abilities and willingness to let herself go, and of course I get no pornstars for sure.

Success rate is 50% for okay Session and less for great session, but at least I am getting the looks I require.

If the looks are really so-so, I lack the motivation. The simple reason is have managed to experience some really great looking girls with great performances else where, so I can't compromise my looks requirements much. Girl must have either great face or great body, and preferably both if possible. I can't do an ugly face at all nor even an ordinary one. Has to be well above average.

In the end we all have to take gambles, and if works well, collect a new regular girl.

I have not been with a really stunning Oily girl since Bai-Fern at Yorimichi, must be about 2 years ago or so, and she was great fun too. She did not last there long. Stunning ones are not easy to find. There was also Angie at Cherry (if I got the name right). Only got the 1 session before she disappeared.

Syzygies
07-17-15, 15:26
Does anyone know if outcall can be arranged from Nataree? Nataree does not have a website. I have RTFF and also done a search but can find nothing. Any information would be appreciated.With Soapy girls they are not generally allowed to meet customers outside work (officially). Contract girls at Nataree may be closely guarded by the pimps. At soapies, once you know a girl well, she my be willing to meet you secretly outside for an all night private booking. Assuming you can communicate of course. I have certainly done that with several soapy girls in the recent to distant past. I can speak Thai though so that helps.

Normally you should be content with fucking her on the premises unless you are considering getting into a relationship. I don't see a great need for outcall unless you want the girl all night or want to take her on holidays, and then private secret arrangements are better (providing she does not get caught).

Devinn38
07-17-15, 21:57
With Soapy girls they are not generally allowed to meet customers outside work (officially). Contract girls at Nataree may be closely guarded by the pimps. At soapies, once you know a girl well, she my be willing to meet you secretly outside for an all night private booking. Assuming you can communicate of course. I have certainly done that with several soapy girls in the recent to distant past. I can speak Thai though so that helps.

Normally you should be content with fucking her on the premises unless you are considering getting into a relationship. I don't see a great need for outcall unless you want the girl all night or want to take her on holidays, and then private secret arrangements are better (providing she does not get caught).Syzgies,

Thank you for this helpful information. I owe you and all other BM's a debt of gratitude for the collected knowledge of the BKK scene. Presently I am in Bangkok enjoying my first visit.

As to the Nataree question, last Monday I chose a 4 K sideliner with an absolutely beautiful face. Classic beauty that could easily find a home as the cover girl on any international fashion magazine. The body looked very good clothed. I was hoping for the rare double dip: face and body at the highest level. In the room when the bath was drawn and the massage completed, she removed her towel. I was breathless and speechless. I have seen bodies like hers in photos from Helmut Newton and other similar high fashion / art photographers. But never have I seen a body like that nude, beckoning me to join her in the warm bath. Needless to say, I hurried back for more. Today I was able to schedule our second encounter by using my phone, Line and Google translate. I wrote messages to her using Google translate. You can then choose to send the translated message via various social media including Line, email etc. I had gotten her Line I. The. During our first meeting so I simply set up a private chat and sent messages that arrived for her in Thai. The only catch is when she replied her messages arrived in Thai. I am not yet capable in her language. Also, when using my phone, I'm not able to cut and paste from the Line message into Google translate. I was able to rely on my driver's assistance this morning and after he departed I got a bartender at the hotel to help. It all worked out perfectly and she was waiting for me this afternoon when I arrived exactly at our scheduled time.

Sunday night I have a special event planned. Since a date would be expected, I asked her to accompany me to the event and spend the night at my hotel. She readily agreed. My only concern now is your comment re: "the pimps". I know nothing of that world and I have no desire to get involved. Any additional information you might be able to offer would be welcomed. I'm for a little adventure as long as the Yakuza is never involved.

Thanks

Syzygies
07-18-15, 14:28
Today I was able to schedule our second encounter by using my phone, Line and Google translate. I wrote messages to her using Google translate. You can then choose to send the translated message via various social media including Line, email etc. I had gotten her Line I. The. During our first meeting so I simply set up a private chat and sent messages that arrived for her in Thai. The only catch is when she replied her messages arrived in Thai. I am not yet capable in her language. Also, when using my phone, I'm not able to cut and paste from the Line message into Google translate. I was able to rely on my driver's assistance this morning and after he departed I got a bartender at the hotel to help. It all worked out perfectly and she was waiting for me this afternoon when I arrived exactly at our scheduled time.

Sunday night I have a special event planned. Since a date would be expected, I asked her to accompany me to the event and spend the night at my hotel. She readily agreed. My only concern now is your comment re: "the pimps". I know nothing of that world and I have no desire to get involved. Any additional information you might be able to offer would be welcomed. I'm for a little adventure as long as the Yakuza is never involved.

ThanksI use Thai language on LINE app, because I can type Thai, but I would not recommend Google Translate, it does a lousy job. I use English to all girls that have any English, as its much easier. I suggest you would be better to use English unless she cannot find any trustworthy friend to help her with English. You getting someone who speaks Thai to help is the other option which you used already.

Most Thai girls do not message me in Thai, other than ones that have almost zero English. If your girl has zero English, then don't know how well your dates will go. However I have a buddy from Canada who eventually married a girl he met in a Soapy, and now has kids, and initially she had zero English and he had zero Thai. I believe he met her in a Hat Yai Soapy MP. So anything is possible. She was motivated to learn English quickly after they met. LOL.

Warning. She may be stunning but come with various problems. Do your best to enjoy without falling badly for her. It takes a very long time before you really know a Thai girl's character deeply. Many will be looking for a sucker to get them out of a massive debt that has landed them in Nataree in the first place. I don't say every girl in Nataree is bad, but a large percentage are effectively slaves under a contract problem and owned by some pimp / manager. Its not exactly the most ideal place to meet a girl. I don't really know what dangers both you and her will face, as I never took up with a girl under a massive debt problem. Perhaps I did a long time ago. Two girls I met from Mona Lisa seemed to have severe restrictions on when they could safely meet me and where. Probably had a contracts and were supposed to stay/live in some location with other contracted girls. I only met these girls once or twice. Memory fades. Very long time ago. If she isn't a slave under some contract debt, she may well have a fancy Thai boy living off her. He will guard what he "owns" too. So go carefully. Just pay her for her time and service to start with. You will have to work out what is fair. If she needs to borrow a lot of money from you, best forget it, you won't get it back. Guaranteed. Many girls will very quickly get around to ask you for help with the rent, medical problems, etc.

I have met Soapy girls outside the club on several occasions. Sometimes something lasted several years. Sometimes I got bored with her character very quickly and moved on. One girl from 23 years ago, I can still contact, but she is not right for me. Initially I fell for her a bit, but she had far too many boyfriends and picked some other guy. Now she wants me back. Ha Ha. Its far too late now.

I have never hooked up with a Nataree girl, purely because never met one good enough. Maybe you did better.

I know of a bar girl in Suzi Wong that has a car and apartment paid for by a Farang guy, yet she still works the bar. She has a Thai boy on the sly who is on drugs, and bashes her if she doesn't supply him with money. Why did she hook up with that Thai boy? Who knows? She isn't even pretty and has an ugly body to my taste with sillies. Somehow some Farangs like her. No idea why. She can do as she pleases while her support Farang is away. This is not relevant, but I just want you to be clear that many Thai girls are very tricky. Not all. Some are very honest too. It will be a lot harder to find those in Nataree. Imagine the worst with your girl, be sceptical, and if I am proven wrong, and she is really in a better circumstance, that will be a bonus.

The more money you give a girl, the less likely you are to see her again very soon, except when she is looking for more money. If you pay for service too far in advance, the service will evaporate. These are the golden rules. Hard but true.

Ixgzca
07-18-15, 15:27
Perhaps I did a long time ago. Two girls I met from Mona Lisa seemed to have severe restrictions on when they could safely meet me and where. Probably had a contracts and were supposed to stay/live in some location with other contracted girls. I only met these girls once or twice. Memory fades. Very long time ago. If she isn't a slave under some contract debt, she may well have a fancy Thai boy living off her. He will guard what he "owns" too. So go carefully. Just pay her for her time and service to start with. You will have to work out what is fair. If she needs to borrow a lot of money from you, best forget it, you won't get it back. Guaranteed. Many girls will very quickly get around to ask you for help with the rent, medical problems, etc.

I have met Soapy girls outside the club on several occasions. Sometimes something lasted several years. Sometimes I got bored with her character very quickly and moved on. One girl from 23 years ago, I can still contact, but she is not right for me. Initially I fell for her a bit, but she had far too many boyfriends and picked some other guy. Now she wants me back. Ha Ha. Its far too late now.

I have never hooked up with a Nataree girl, purely because never met one good enough. Maybe you did better.

I know of a bar girl in Suzi Wong that has a car and apartment paid for by a Farang guy, yet she still works the bar. She has a Thai boy on the sly who is on drugs, and bashes her if she doesn't supply him with money. Why did she hook up with that Thai boy? Who knows? She isn't even pretty and has an ugly body to my taste with sillies. Somehow some Farangs like her. No idea why. She can do as she pleases while her support Farang is away. This is not relevant, but I just want you to be clear that many Thai girls are very tricky. Not all. Some are very honest too. It will be a lot harder to find those in Nataree. Imagine the worst with your girl, be sceptical, and if I am proven wrong, and she is really in a better circumstance, that will be a bonus.

The more money you give a girl, the less likely you are to see her again very soon, except when she is looking for more money. If you pay for service too far in advance, the service will evaporate. These are the golden rules. Hard but true.As you have said there are some places that may still have the indentured servant type contract but they are few and far between. I would argue most foreigners never meet a girl under such conditions. Most of the time if a girl gives you a bunch of excuses as to why she can't meet you outside of work it's because she isn't interested and would rather you just come to see her at work and be a cash cow that she doesn't need to go above and beyond with.

The old way of pimps controlling girls work lives and free time is long gone. It isn't a viable business method in the Bangkok of today. The police and military aren't that inept. All these girls have cellphones with the instant ability to record video and voice, take photos and call the police or family. There is no getting around that issue unless the girls are literally chained in a basement.

I'm young and speak Thai and have been out with girls from a multitude of establishments and it's quite simple. If she likes you she'll go. If she thinks you'll make it worth her while financially she'll go. If she doesn't feel like one those requirements are met then she will give you an excuse that's crafted in such a way that you won't feel rejected. This is were all the work excuses come from.

Syzygies
07-18-15, 16:02
As you have said there are some places that may still have the indentured servant type contract but they are few and far between. I would argue most foreigners never meet a girl under such conditions. Most of the time if a girl gives you a bunch of excuses as to why she can't meet you outside of work it's because she isn't interested and would rather you just come to see her at work and be a cash cow that she doesn't need to go above and beyond with.

The old way of pimps controlling girls work lives and free time is long gone. It isn't a viable business method in the Bangkok of today. The police and military aren't that inept. All these girls have cellphones with the instant ability to record video and voice, take photos and call the police or family. There is no getting around that issue unless the girls are literally chained in a basement.

Yes but Nataree is one of them. I have had conversations with Nataree girls in the room (I speak Thai well for 15 years now) in the past and they told me they were on contract. Yes they can lie, but I got a pretty consistent story that I am not hearing from other Soapies. Don't make assumptions about Nataree unless you know the workings of this place in great detail. No they are not chained to the basement. I have not been much to Nataree for last 2 years, but I doubt it has changed much.

Why do you think Nataree has so many young girls from the North? Why do the girls have run if there is a Police raid? Debt Contracts of Nataree girls is a well known thing. We are not generalising here. We are talking specifically about Nataree.

The standard scenario is girl or family initially receive a significant amount of money to get them out of a severe financial problem, and girl does not actually receive much from her part of the session fee. It goes to the debt Manager. Other girls may be just paying some guy significant money to provide her with food and accommodation in Bangkok and transport to and from work. She is in agreement with these arrangements mostly. What percentage of girls at Nataree are actually free to go and work at any place they please?

I don't know if all the non Thai girls have been forced out and all the girls in the other problem category that can't be mentioned here, since I have not attended recently.

Jimmy Boy 99
07-18-15, 17:26
Yes but Nataree is one of them. I have had conversations with Nataree girls in the room (I speak Thai well for 15 years now) in the past and they told me they were on contract. Yes they can lie, but I got a pretty consistent story that I am not hearing from other Soapies.
Why do you think Nataree has so many young girls from the North? Why do the girls have run if there is a Police raid? Debt Contracts of Nataree girls is a well known thing. We are not generalising here. We are talking specifically about Nataree.
What percentage of girls at Nataree are actually free to go and work at any place they please?Why would a Debt Manager only apparently choose Nataree to send his girls? If she is paying the debt herself, then any soapy would do. Perhaps Nataree management is the only one willing to collect the money for them and contol the girls' movements. Or perhaps Nataree is the Debt Manager itself and that is how it recruits girls.

Wolvenvacht
07-18-15, 19:38
As you have said there are some places that may still have the indentured servant type contract but they are few and far between.This happens everywhere in the world, even in Europe, so why would Thailand be an exception? It probbaly happens more in countries where prostitution is forbidden as the WG has to "buy" so-called protection to be able to work to redeem her debt.

Syzygies
07-18-15, 22:53
Syzgies:

I don't think I'm exaggerating about the photos on the website. They are much more beautiful than any of the similar sites. However, you may be right (and probably are) that they are not as good-looking in real life, as they are in the photos. In any case, even if the photos are enhanced, they still seem to be the best-looking ones I've seen in the other places. That's why I posted-to see if the photos were close to reality or not. I would appreciate any comments from patrons of All Stars in terms of the looks of the ladies. In any case, I plan to try All Stars when I'm in BKK in August and I'll report back.

Canyon.Based on unphotoshopped pics, I could potentially try New, Cherry, or Nadia. The rest probably not, but a few have no normal pic to judge properly from. I have been with Rose several times, so I know how she looks. Not exactly stunning but okay.

Jean Sean
07-19-15, 00:28
Based on unphotoshopped pics, I could potentially try New, Cherry, or Nadia. The rest probably not, but a few have no normal pic to judge properly from. I have been with Rose several times, so I know how she looks. Not exactly stunning but okay.Canyon,

I can't figure if you're asking for general advise or personal only, anyway here's my 5 eurocents:

Rose: Very different from the photos, and she joked about it herself when I visited her (I saw her twice). IMO in reality she's quite a beautie, her face is more roundish, like many Thais with Chinese mixed genes. She's from Chiang Mai, and might have that. She intelligent, likes to talk, and knows a lot about the world. My favorite among the All Stars girls I visited recently.

Cherry: Slight resemblance with photos. She's from Issan. Contrary to the info, she doesn't speak much English, basically no English at all, just so you know. She offered me duo-pop, maybe because my first pop was a little hmm fast. So she gave me a BBBJ in the exit shower as well. I would not see her again though, due to the lack of English.

Ning: Like the photos, but more beautiful in real!! She's from Bangkok, more petite than she looks in the photos. Cute decorative braces. And she's wild in the sack!

Ixgzca
07-19-15, 06:11
Yes but Nataree is one of them. I have had conversations with Nataree girls in the room (I speak Thai well for 15 years now) in the past and they told me they were on contract. Yes they can lie, but I got a pretty consistent story that I am not hearing from other Soapies. Don't make assumptions about Nataree unless you know the workings of this place in great detail. No they are not chained to the basement. I have not been much to Nataree for last 2 years, but I doubt it has changed much.

Why do you think Nataree has so many young girls from the North? Why do the girls have run if there is a Police raid? Debt Contracts of Nataree girls is a well known thing. We are not generalising here. We are talking specifically about Nataree.

The standard scenario is girl or family initially receive a significant amount of money to get them out of a severe financial problem, and girl does not actually receive much from her part of the session fee. It goes to the debt Manager. Other girls may be just paying some guy significant money to provide her with food and accommodation in Bangkok and transport to and from work. She is in agreement with these arrangements mostly. What percentage of girls at Nataree are actually free to go and work at any place they please?

I don't know if all the non Thai girls have been forced out and all the girls in the other problem category that can't be mentioned here, since I have not attended recently.I'm well aware of the up-front payment for that the girls get but, being in debt is not the same as having your every movement controlled. A girl's debt situation is irrelevant to whether or not she will see you outside of work, which is what my post was about. Not allowing a girl freedom of movement does nothing to guarantee repayment of a debt. In fact it would probably push the girl to leave if the work environment is too oppressive. This goes back to statement about cell phones and such. In the past you could realistically keep a girl in the dark about what's going on around her but not anymore. Too much easily accessible information and too easy to contact family, friends or the authorities if something is not on the up and up.

I am very much familiar with Nataree and I also speak, read and write Thai to the point that all my conversations with Thai girls on Line are written in Thai so there are no misunderstandings on my end or faulty translations. I have no doubt that the girls give you a similar story about having contracts because they do have contracts to repay a debt. That contract does not extend to their freedom of movement however. I have at least three Nataree girls currently in my contacts right now, who knows how many I deleted. Only one lives alone. The other two live with other Nataree girls. All three come and go as they please if they aren't working. This has been the norm for every girl that I've ever met there and some of them gave me the same "can't meet outside work" spiel that you're so familiar with. That has always changed on the second visit to "call me at this time" or "on this day when I'm free".

As far as your direct questions:

1. What percentage of girls at Nataree are actually free to go and work at any place they please?

Difficult to calculate a percentage but in short, if they have a contract and a debt to repay then going to work somewhere else is difficult but, not because the mafia will kill their families or something silly like that. It's because selling ass is the only way most of those girls could ever make enough money to pay back the significant debts they have raised.

2. Why do you think Nataree has so many young girls from the North?

The owners are appealing to Asian customers mainly and you need poor families to in order to entice with an upfront payment. Isan has poor families but the owners (wrongly) assume that girls from Isan are ugly. So that's a no. The south isn't as poor as Isan but girls on average still have relatively darker skin. So that's a no. The deep south is muslim. So that's a no. Bangkok girls are more well off. So that's a no. That leaves you with the north where girls are relatively poor but with whiter skin that appeals to Asian customers. With that said, I regularly meet girls there who are from other parts of Thailand but they lie about where they are from to keep up the allure. I knew girls from Nakhon Sawan and Korat that worked there but both would say Chiang Mai if anyone asked. As far as the age, of course the girls are young because guys like young girls. If tastes shifted and 30 year olds became all the rage then they would properly adjust their business methods.

3. Why do the girls have run if there is a Police raid?

The main reason they run is because they are working inside of business known for prostitution which is illegal in Thailand(ostensibly). They don't want to be arrested or have their pictures splashed on the news. Other reasons they run could be money or drugs. I know girls that have had their money stolen by the police during raids and also girls that had drugs and were busted during a rather routine police walk through. Some of the girls could also no yet be 18 and they run to save the owners as much as much as themselves. Last but not least, I have seen police raids all over Thailand in all types of businesses and for the most part everyone runs because the police corrupt. If the business is raided then you can almost guarantee that whether everything was legit or not, the police will still be taking some tea money from anyone they can. People want to avoid that.

RyosaeBabkk
07-19-15, 08:13
I recently read a post from Goatscrot about how hard it has become to find really good looking SW.

Well I think you should try Meena in Mango, she is in the same class as Angie (who I managed to screw only one time too.), not as beautiful but really in the same league (which means almost an alien to the usual PSE SW).

Meena offers good service, willing attitude, especially the CIM or COF (what a pleasure to jizz on her beautiful face or shoot directly in her throat). No anal though but with a girl like that I don't need that extra kinky stuff to be horny as a dog for the whole session!

Anyways I wouldn't usually share that because of all the dogs lurking on ISG (me included) but I recently engaged in a business venture that doesn't leave me much time anymore for the P4P scene and I have a feeling Meena won't stay too long until some sugar daddy arrives.

Cheers

Turgid
07-19-15, 09:22
Syzgies,

Thank you for this helpful information. I owe you and all other BM's a debt of gratitude for the collected knowledge of the BKK scene. Presently I am in Bangkok enjoying my first visit.

As to the Nataree question, last Monday I chose a 4 K sideliner with an absolutely beautiful face. Classic beauty that could easily find a home as the cover girl on any international fashion magazine. The body looked very good clothed. I was hoping for the rare double dip: face and body at the highest level. In the room when the bath was drawn and the massage completed, she removed her towel. I was breathless and speechless. I have seen bodies like hers in photos from Helmut Newton and other similar high fashion / art photographers. But never have I seen a body like that nude, beckoning me to join her in the warm bath. Needless to say, I hurried back for more. Today I was able to schedule our second encounter by using my phone, Line and Google translate. I wrote messages to her using Google translate. You can then choose to send the translated message via various social media including Line, email etc. I had gotten her Line I. The. During our first meeting so I simply set up a private chat and sent messages that arrived for her in Thai. The only catch is when she replied her messages arrived in Thai. I am not yet capable in her language. Also, when using my phone, I'm not able to cut and paste from the Line message into Google translate. I was able to rely on my driver's assistance this morning and after he departed I got a bartender at the hotel to help. It all worked out perfectly and she was waiting for me this afternoon when I arrived exactly at our scheduled time.

Sunday night I have a special event planned. Since a date would be expected, I asked her to accompany me to the event and spend the night at my hotel. She readily agreed. My only concern now is your comment re: "the pimps". I know nothing of that world and I have no desire to get involved. Any additional information you might be able to offer would be welcomed. I'm for a little adventure as long as the Yakuza is never involved.

ThanksReminds me of the most delightful 19 year old beauty I sessioned with in Nataree last week (4000 B). Beautiful face and immaculate skin. I did what I very rarely do and invited her to meet me at an external venue to which she did not respond. I left it alone thinking that girl like that and myself walking in public will attract too much attention even though its Bangkok. She was a genuine 19 yr old.

Ralph Kramden
07-19-15, 14:06
Reminds me of the most delightful 19 year old beauty I sessioned with in Nataree last week (4000 B). Beautiful face and immaculate skin. I did what I very rarely do and invited her to meet me at an external venue to which she did not respond. I left it alone thinking that girl like that and myself walking in public will attract too much attention even though its Bangkok. She was a genuine 19 yr old.I had a similar and marvelous session with a 2600bht young lass with extra large tits who spoke decent English. She told me she didn't go to hotels even though it was right across the street and I think she was not on a debt contract. I won't soon forget that fabulous tit massage she gave me in the tub.

Goatscrot
07-19-15, 17:06
I recently read a post from Goatscrot about how hard it has become to find really good looking SW.

Well I think you should try Meena in Mango, she is in the same class as Angie (who I managed to screw only one time too.), not as beautiful but really in the same league (which means almost an alien to the usual PSE SW).

Meena offers good service, willing attitude, especially the CIM or COF (what a pleasure to jizz on her beautiful face or shoot directly in her throat). No anal though but with a girl like that I don't need that extra kinky stuff to be horny as a dog for the whole session!

Anyways I wouldn't usually share that because of all the dogs lurking on ISG (me included) but I recently engaged in a business venture that doesn't leave me much time anymore for the P4P scene and I have a feeling Meena won't stay too long until some sugar daddy arrives.

CheersGlowing review. Will have to take a punt on that one! Gracias.

Syzygies
07-19-15, 18:21
I recently read a post from Goatscrot about how hard it has become to find really good looking SW.

Well I think you should try Meena in Mango, she is in the same class as Angie (who I managed to screw only one time too.), not as beautiful but really in the same league (which means almost an alien to the usual PSE SW).

Meena offers good service, willing attitude, especially the CIM or COF (what a pleasure to jizz on her beautiful face or shoot directly in her throat). No anal though but with a girl like that I don't need that extra kinky stuff to be horny as a dog for the whole session!

Anyways I wouldn't usually share that because of all the dogs lurking on ISG (me included) but I recently engaged in a business venture that doesn't leave me much time anymore for the P4P scene and I have a feeling Meena won't stay too long until some sugar daddy arrives.

CheersLast visit to Mango, on way out I noticed they did a couple ofwell above average looking girls based on a quick glance, to my taste. Do not know the names. However I think it is worth a look.

RyosaeBabkk
07-19-15, 18:28
Glowing review. Will have to take a punt on that one! Gracias.Don't expect crazy sloppy skull fucking though but other than that you shouldn't be disappointed.

Syzygies
07-19-15, 18:33
I'm well aware of the up-front payment for that the girls get but, being in debt is not the same as having your every movement controlled. A girl's debt situation is irrelevant to whether or not she will see you outside of work, which is what my post was about. Not allowing a girl freedom of movement does nothing to guarantee repayment of a debt. In fact it would probably push the girl to leave if the work environment is too oppressive. This goes back to statement about cell phones and such. In the past you could realistically keep a girl in the dark about what's going on around her but not anymore. Too much easily accessible information and too easy to contact family, friends or the authorities if something is not on the up and up.Some girls are transported to and from work by pimp types. I am not implying the girls are sex slaves. However secretly meeting Farangs outside of work is not likely to be something permitted by the debt managers nor Nataree. Doesn't mean its impossible, however girls will be trying to keep it very secret, and maybe there are limits to their availability. Girls that receive a very tiny portion of the session fee (due to debts) are all the more keen to find ways to secretly get some extra cash in hand, in my experience.

Anyway, its just something to be aware of as a possibility. I am not saying I would not meet a girl If I wanted to spend serious time with her. I once used to secretly meet a Thai girlfriend of a Hells Angels member, with obviously some care over secrecy. She had to be careful to make sure she wasn't seen. Nothing to do with Nataree.

SpDelhi
07-20-15, 10:52
I had a similar and marvelous session with a 2600bht young lass with extra large tits who spoke decent English. She told me she didn't go to hotels even though it was right across the street and I think she was not on a debt contract. I won't soon forget that fabulous tit massage she gave me in the tub.The debt contract works like as the girl or family has taken a loan from someone and has to payback now. The girl is to work solely for this pimp or person to repay the amount.

I met a girl who explained these things. She was a WG then at Sahara and told how she worked earlier for a person for two years to pay loan of her husband who died in a accident.

The girl was very sweet and gave very good service. I paid her 1300 bhat for 1.5 hrs (2 shots) and a tip of 300 Bhat without her asking.

Whoreman
07-21-15, 17:24
Anyone tried out Neko, the new A+ girl at Mango? She looks quite nice for an A+ girl but I hope her body is OK. It's unusual to find an A+ girl with a nice face and body.

Goatscrot
07-21-15, 18:09
Anyone tried out Neko, the new A+ girl at Mango? She looks quite nice for an A+ girl but I hope her body is OK. It's unusual to find an A+ girl with a nice face and body.Hard to tell about the body with that dress on. Could be some bad baby drag on those tatas and that gut.

Meaty
07-22-15, 05:44
Lovely set of silicones, nice and big, but felt quite soft, curvy bum, slightly plump, but not fat.

Great Deepthroat BBBJ while sitting back on the PVC couch in the room, watching her on all fours in the wall mirror opposite using her fingers to explore herself quite openly! She took it all in nicely. But then came the surprise, CIM, but a full swallow, I mean the whole lot, all swallowed down followed by the words. "Yummy! And not a single prompt from me.

Can't comment on her other talents as I didn't try them.

Standard rates are still in play here (HJ 500, BJ 1000, FS 1500) however because of the ability to explore each other I still pay the 1,500 even just for the BJ.

About half a dozen nice lookers in the waiting room when I left.

KiJang
07-22-15, 13:22
Sitting across Dr BJ at the Aussie pub I observe a new talent with glasses, pouty lips, curvaceous body, big ass and the big boobies. Who is this new talent? Any one care to post a report?

BigWorld
07-22-15, 13:58
Lovely set of silicones, nice and big, but felt quite soft, curvy bum, slightly plump, but not fat.

Great Deepthroat BBBJ while sitting back on the PVC couch in the room, watching her on all fours in the wall mirror opposite using her fingers to explore herself quite openly! She took it all in nicely. But then came the surprise, CIM, but a full swallow, I mean the whole lot, all swallowed down followed by the words. "Yummy! And not a single prompt from me.

Can't comment on her other talents as I didn't try them.

Standard rates are still in play here (HJ 500, BJ 1000, FS 1500) however because of the ability to explore each other I still pay the 1,500 even just for the BJ.

About half a dozen nice lookers in the waiting room when I left.I tried Nana in my last Bangkok trip and I wrote a report in the past in ISG here. If I remember correctly she released me 5-6 times through awesome BJs / FS (both holes).

She is a gem and feels good that she is in same form as I had taste her performance in 2013.

BudgeRigar
07-22-15, 16:27
Went to Nataree a few months back during a 6 hour stopover in Bangkok.

Hurried through immigration, hopped on the train, switched to the MRT and wandered in in the early afternoon on a Saturday. I had expected it to be quite empty based on other reports I'd read, but there were a lot. Papasan mentioned the price list, but it was a bit confusing as the girls were all mixed in together. Ended up with a 2,600 girl who had given me a big smile. Small, dark, bit of a spinner, just what I wanted.

Went up to the room, had a chat. I asked if it was two pops or one (knowing that it's only one in Nataree), but she said we could do two if I tipped 500, to which I agreed.

Very quickly she took off my clothes, folded them neatly, and proceeded with a BBBJ while I was still sitting on the couch. After a couple of minutes she stood up, pulled her undies to the side, put a cap on and sat down on me, straight to business.

A bit of cowgirl on the couch, followed by mish on the bed (she was small enough I could carry her to the bed without breaking contact), then doggy to finish.

We went to the bath, had a bit of a wash down, lay down on the bed for a short while and she started stroking me to start session number 2. She very enthusiastically moved from the hand to another BBBJ.

It looked like it was going to work for a little while, she was working very hard, but I didn't have enough reset time, and had a plane to catch.

Got dressed, paid the tip (as she'd tried her best and she had a great attitude), and then downstairs to get back to the airport for the next plane.

Didn't get the name.

Would I repeat? Yes, but probably worth trying a few others first.

Rupreck
07-23-15, 00:49
Here in BKK for work again. Time is short so ordered in from Mango the other night. Requested Meena on the advice of another on this site. Was quite surprised to meet her in my room. Gorgeous. The kind of girl that I could easily have on my arm in a top restaurant or bar.

Meena.

- small frame.

- dark skin.

- gorgeous ass.

- small natural boobs.

- beautiful face.

- good English.

- soft touch.

She was with me for a couple of sublime hours. No shower together for some reason, but I was OK with that. Girls sometimes get a bit shy on an outcall. Massage was soft and sensuous. She really turned me on with those hands and the feel of that gorgeous pussy on my butt, legs, feet. Great BBBJ followed by 69 and then a long DATY. I could honestly lick that pussy all night. Missionary sex (haven't done that for a while!) which felt very GFE, but in a good way. 2nd round is rarely successful for me, but we gave it a good go anyway. Lots of doggie etc. All good. She's not A+, not that I always go the back door, but I like the idea of it being available if you know what I mean. On this occasion I really didn't care less. I could have honestly spent an hour just looking at her and been happy.

Probably sounding a little too glowing, she won't be everyone's type, but a real treat if you want time with a Thai beauty.

I'll definitely go again. But may need a more 'normal' PSE session with Opor before hand!

Canyon
07-23-15, 02:44
Thank you, Jean Sean. I was asking for personal reasons. I will be in Bangkok next week and I was doing some preparation work and I came across the All-Stars site. I was impressed by the beauty of the girls-more so than other sites. I wanted to know if the girls were actually that good-looking and how they performed. Your post was very useful to me. Thank you.


Canyon,

I can't figure if you're asking for general advise or personal only, anyway here's my 5 eurocents:

Rose: Very different from the photos, and she joked about it herself when I visited her (I saw her twice). IMO in reality she's quite a beautie, her face is more roundish, like many Thais with Chinese mixed genes. She's from Chiang Mai, and might have that. She intelligent, likes to talk, and knows a lot about the world. My favorite among the All Stars girls I visited recently.

Cherry: Slight resemblance with photos. She's from Issan. Contrary to the info, she doesn't speak much English, basically no English at all, just so you know. She offered me duo-pop, maybe because my first pop was a little hmm fast. So she gave me a BBBJ in the exit shower as well. I would not see her again though, due to the lack of English.

Ning: Like the photos, but more beautiful in real!! She's from Bangkok, more petite than she looks in the photos. Cute decorative braces. And she's wild in the sack!

LachieDog
07-26-15, 07:03
I was just looking at BongKot website and noticed a lady called Nice. She resembles Fa from Snow White massage. Also I read a post on this forum a while ago and have spent hours trying to find it that Pim or Pond from Tulips is working there using different name. Perhaps this is the lady Nice. Can those in the know confirm either of these questions and does anyone have pics of Pond or Pimheers.

OldPhart
07-26-15, 08:18
Can anybody suggest a pair of ladies who work well together with each other and the customer in a VIP room with bath and who take the initiative?

At Eden, I've never been good at "being a director. " Does anybody use a "script" in this case?

Syzygies
07-26-15, 12:59
Can anybody suggest a pair of ladies who work well together with each other and the customer in a VIP room with bath and who take the initiative?

At Eden, I've never been good at "being a director. " Does anybody use a "script" in this case?I did not like Eden as girls, in my try there long ago, as were clearly following a program or script. All obviously very fake and mechanical. I prefer go with the flow type of girls who interact without a specific program. Find some true bisexual ladies works better. I had much better two or three girl experiences from Suzi Wong girls. It wasn't exactly porno though, so if you just want to copy porno movies, go to Eden I guess.

Goatscrot
07-26-15, 18:35
After all of the glowing reports on Meena, I just had to take a shot myself. Meena is very Isaan looking, but none the less a very attractive girl. Very small breasts but quite an amazing tush, and very soft albeit dark skin. Nether regions are also quite nice with a pretty lippy snatch. No kid so the body is quite firm.

Tried to temper my expectations after the glowing reviews and was glad I did. While a pretty nice looker, Meena is really not a very enthusiastic provider. BBBJ was just OK, with her mouth rarely going beyond the head. No rimming at all; just a little manual stimulation of the ole chocolate starfish. For dudes that like a very "soft" touch, she would be ideal, but for me she was quite a bit less than my spec. Hell, the last time I was with one of my oily regulars she pulled out a dildo and with a look of delight in her eye asked me if she could put it in my keister, so a mellow "nicer" gal with a less polished skill set is just not as interesting. That being said, I was able to manage two shots on the great body alone. WIR? Don't' think so. I need a nasty nasty gal.

Gardelito
07-26-15, 23:47
I'll be in Bangkok in a couple weeks and was hoping to try out Taragon Massage. Has anyone had any recent experience at Taragon to report on? I haven't come across much information online and the Google street view images don't seem to match the facade pictured on their website (old street view images perhaps? I've tried Nataree and Amsterdam in the past and found the selection of younger, slim girls to be good and I'm hoping Taragon has a good selection as well.

OldPhart
07-27-15, 00:04
I need a nasty nasty gal.I'm not in Bangkok for the foreseeable future. I'm in the provinces now and will soon exit the kingdom. But, I'll visit Angel City next month. I hope to squeeze in one visit to a holes of happiness oil massage parlor.

Between SW, Cherry, Candy, Bamboo, Mango, Bongkot, Honey Bee, Hana, or even the Dr. BJ places, is there a girl (or are there two girls) who one would put in the scar-you-for-life super aggressive and nastier than Tulips or Eden category?

LA Guy 5
07-27-15, 00:58
I was just looking at BongKot website and noticed a lady called Nice. She resembles Fa from Snow White massage. Also I read a post on this forum a while ago and have spent hours trying to find it that Pim or Pond from Tulips is working there using different name. Perhaps this is the lady Nice. Can those in the know confirm either of these questions and does anyone have pics of Pond or Pimheers.I am pretty sure based on the picture and the fact Fa's has been removed from the Snow White website that Nice is Fa. Also, it looks like Mony at Bongkot is May, formerly of Tulip, Snow White 2, and Cherry; the pictures though look like they were taken some time ago, so it is difficult to be sure.

I'm also wondering whether Cash at one time went by a different name at Snow White, maybe April or something like that? She looks familiar.

And as long as we are discussing these sorts of things, does anyone know what became of Creme at Snow White? I used to see her every now and then and remember she did say a few years ago she wanted in a year or so to move back to her home city and open a hair salon. Any chance she did this (or perhaps is working somewhere else)?

JokerInter
07-27-15, 05:17
I am pretty sure based on the picture and the fact Fa's has been removed from the Snow White website that Nice is Fa. Also, it looks like Mony at Bongkot is May, formerly of Tulip, Snow White 2, and Cherry; the pictures though look like they were taken some time ago, so it is difficult to be sure.

I'm also wondering whether Cash at one time went by a different name at Snow White, maybe April or something like that? She looks familiar.

And as long as we are discussing these sorts of things, does anyone know what became of Creme at Snow White? I used to see her every now and then and remember she did say a few years ago she wanted in a year or so to move back to her home city and open a hair salon. Any chance she did this (or perhaps is working somewhere else)?I've been here a few times. Cash, the girl at the front says her sister owns Snow white and some of the girls bounce back and forth. I never been to Snow White so I can't confirm. I like this place and never had issues with any of the girls. Its not a rush place and not super busy. Cash does have a nice petite body, that I can confirm. I do recommend Sara, she is older but a good fuck and great BBBJ skills.

Goatscrot
07-27-15, 05:22
'm also wondering whether Cash at one time went by a different name at Snow White, maybe April or something like that? She looks familiar.
And as long as we are discussing these sorts of things, does anyone know what became of Creme at Snow White? Yep, that's April. Cream former of SW has moved home to the best of my knowledge. She was a pretty gal and quite a performer. Nice as well.

GanjaBreed
07-27-15, 08:58
Have already posted regarding my take out from SOL in an earlier post. Since I was staying on Soi 8 I decided to hop into Bamboo Massage. Mamasan said welcome and a break down of their pricing structure. I asked for a photo book and she said "No have, you take a look inside. " I didn't see any lookers but Mamasan recommended Gibsy. "She have big ass. " Sold. Anyways, up to the room and she went off to get her accessories for the session. Showered together where she proceeded to give a pretty decent blow job. Just the right amount of slobbering. We moved to the bed where I went below to heck out the wares. Well trimmed Bush and give her a good licking. Switched to 69 with her on top. I really enjoyed her grinding her pussy on my face. Popped a load in her mouth and she claimed she 'finit' too. I sure hope so Anyways, a quick rinse off and massage ensues. Flipped me over and junior was ready for another round. Some blow job action and on with the rubber. She had a decent shaped ass and what a view while doing her doggy style. She rode me hard and moved her hips well. In missionary I was banging her hard when she grabbed my hips and started grinding against me. I don't know if she came but it was hot. She got on her knees again on the bed and lubed up her ass. I was hesitant to pay the 500 extra fee for anal but in the moment I lost control and entered. Finally came and took another quick shower. We still had some time on the clock and had another pop in her mouth. All in all a great session with Gibsy. It was a nice sweaty fuck because I had asked the air con to be turned up a little because it was too cold, and we never reset it until after. I was surprised she didn't ask for the 500 extra charge for the A+ service, but she was happy with the 200 tip I gave her.

Will be in Bangkok again in 3 weeks and will be staying on Soi 8 again. Really want to try out Bongkot Massage since I haven't been there yet. Any recommendations? Fasai, Nook and Cash pretty tasty. But Nice and Nana have the big tits. Decisions decisions.

Nongpagba
07-27-15, 10:12
Here are some old Snow white pictures to compare.


I am pretty sure based on the picture and the fact Fa's has been removed from the Snow White website that Nice is Fa. Also, it looks like Mony at Bongkot is May, formerly of Tulip, Snow White 2, and Cherry; the pictures though look like they were taken some time ago, so it is difficult to be sure.

I'm also wondering whether Cash at one time went by a different name at Snow White, maybe April or something like that? She looks familiar.

And as long as we are discussing these sorts of things, does anyone know what became of Creme at Snow White? I used to see her every now and then and remember she did say a few years ago she wanted in a year or so to move back to her home city and open a hair salon. Any chance she did this (or perhaps is working somewhere else)?

RyosaeBabkk
07-27-15, 11:42
After all of the glowing reports on Meena, I just had to take a shot myself. Meena is very Isaan looking, but none the less a very attractive girl. Very small breasts but quite an amazing tush, and very soft albeit dark skin. Nether regions are also quite nice with a pretty lippy snatch. No kid so the body is quite firm.

Tried to temper my expectations after the glowing reviews and was glad I did. While a pretty nice looker, Meena is really not a very enthusiastic provider. BBBJ was just OK, with her mouth rarely going beyond the head. No rimming at all; just a little manual stimulation of the ole chocolate starfish. For dudes that like a very "soft" touch, she would be ideal, but for me she was quite a bit less than my spec. Hell, the last time I was with one of my oily regulars she pulled out a dildo and with a look of delight in her eye asked me if she could put it in my keister, so a mellow "nicer" gal with a less polished skill set is just not as interesting. That being said, I was able to manage two shots on the great body alone. WIR? Don't' think so. I need a nasty nasty gal.I am pretty sure that.

1/ you caught her on a bad day.

But most probably.

2/ she already got an attitude, from nice and willing (she even sang my favourite song: "garg gluub garag grr glub" I'm sure you know it from the first notes).

LOL) to jaded and lazy. Well I am not too surprised. Too bad.

Syzygies
07-27-15, 12:38
Based on unphotoshopped pics, I could potentially try New, Cherry, or Nadia. The rest probably not, but a few have no normal pic to judge properly from. I have been with Rose several times, so I know how she looks. Not exactly stunning but okay.New (Niw) indeed has a stunning face, cute upturned nose, and good body apart from small tits a bit saggy from breast feeding. Just 20. Almost no English.

Service is quite inexperienced and no kissing. Scared of dick a bit, but realised I was just a gentle giant. So enjoyed the fuck anyway despite her lack of skills.

She is so pretty, even when grimacing. LOL. Her web site pics do not lie much she is in truth the prettiest girl I saw in a an Oily for the last year, although I did nor attend that much. So not really GFE and and certainly not PSE, just the pretty face.

I could find a girl with better overall face and body at Crazy House though, with kissing and seeming much more horny.

Will try to meet Nadia soon. I am told she can speak English well.

Goatscrot
07-27-15, 15:42
I am pretty sure that.

1/ you caught her on a bad day.

But most probably.

2/ she already got an attitude, from nice and willing (she even sang my favourite song: "garg gluub garag grr glub" I'm sure you know it from the first notes).

LOL) to jaded and lazy. Well I am not too surprised. Too bad.My feeling is that was just the type of service she provides. She was "willing" I think; I am sure she would have taken a shot in the mouth, but truth be told there was no way that her BJ could have even gotten me close. Just not up that high on the intensity meter. A bit too soft. One of my biggest issues with Meena was no rimming. FFS, I even shaved right before I went for the sesh! A little humor there. Aside from the gal who wanted to shove a dildo up my tail another of my regulars delights in putting me on all fours and pouring coconut oil on my ass before diving in like a starving sea lamprey, all the while telling me how much she loves eating a*.

Meena told me she worked at a massage place in Soi Thaniya, which of course caters to our Japanese brethren. I do think their expectations are a bit different. They prefer a demure gal pretty gal who gives good service but does not act like a "sl*t. " Whereas I like a very aggressive gal who attacks me and screws like a rabid wolverine with juices, spit, lube, and everything imaginable ground into the sheets and both bodies covered in who knows what.

Hey, she is a nice gal, and actually quite fun to talk to. I could see her being a great companion for dinner, drinks, and then some fun for dude's who prefer GFE to PSE. In fact, I think you mentioned that. But for me, just not what I am looking for at the PSE shops. Those of you that frequented Baron's and Tulip in the early days can remember that "all girls do everything" meant just that. Don't think I had a dud for the first 4 years or so. But I would say the highlight time for oilies was Mango during it's first two years of operation. Cherry, Apple, Bo, Ammy, and Ann were amazing looking gals who were all just superstar performers. You just could not believe that you were balls deep up the turd cutter of gals this good looking. There was just about nothing these gals would not do to please the customer. CIM, ATM, you name it. They did it. And they at least acted like they enjoyed it. I sure miss 'them.

Syzygies
07-27-15, 19:58
Based on unphotoshopped pics, I could potentially try New, Cherry, or Nadia. The rest probably not, but a few have no normal pic to judge properly from. I have been with Rose several times, so I know how she looks. Not exactly stunning but okay.New (Niw) indeed has a stunning face, cute upturned nose, and good body apart from small tits a bit saggy from breast feeding. Just 20. Almost no English.

Service is quite inexperienced and no kissing. Scared of dick a bit, but realised I was just a gentle giant. So enjoyed the fuck anyway despite her lack of skills.

She is so pretty, even when grimacing. LOL. Her web site pics do not lie much she is in truth the prettiest girl I saw in a and Oily for the last year, although I did nor attend that much.

I could find a girl with better overall face and body at Crazy House though.

Will try to meet Nadia soon. I am told she can speak English well.

MatKong
07-28-15, 06:18
Heading to BKK (again) this week-end and want to try the nuru thing, I had many soapies, oilies etc. But I am curious and want to try now the nuru stuff.

Any advice on the best place among the oilies of soi 24/26 to get a decent nuru? And maybe a girl in particular with good body and technique? (no Dr BJ Nuru please).

I heard Dream Heaven is quite good for that as they have good service, pretty gals, and the nuru slightly cheaper than other places. Can anyone confirm that?

PedroSki
07-28-15, 07:40
With Soapy girls they are not generally allowed to meet customers outside work (officially). Contract girls at Nataree may be closely guarded by the pimps. At soapies, once you know a girl well, she my be willing to meet you secretly outside for an all night private booking. Assuming you can communicate of course. I have certainly done that with several soapy girls in the recent to distant past. I can speak Thai though so that helps.

Normally you should be content with fucking her on the premises unless you are considering getting into a relationship. I don't see a great need for outcall unless you want the girl all night or want to take her on holidays, and then private secret arrangements are better (providing she does not get caught).This is fascinating, I would like to add though I had 3 girls from Nataree (at different times) come to my condo after only one prior visit to the establishment each obviously how I met them. Only 1 charged me. I'm no super stud.

I should add though all 3 whilst inside Nataree would not give me their line whilst in the room. I put my ID into their phone. Also 1 was adamant at the time if I want to see her I have to go there but after I left the building her tone changed.

I often see soapy girls outside of their work. Terawadee is also a good one for this.

GhamiBoon
07-28-15, 10:16
The more seasoned girls like May are still great fun and performance is guaranteed. Only disadvantage is May's very small breast. But how are the newer girls like Neko and Yok?

Does anyone has sampled this two beauties?

Syzygies
07-28-15, 14:04
Heading to BKK (again) this week-end and want to try the nuru thing, I had many soapies, oilies etc. But I am curious and want to try now the nuru stuff.

Any advice on the best place among the oilies of soi 24/26 to get a decent nuru? And maybe a girl in particular with good body and technique? (no Dr BJ Nuru please).

I heard Dream Heaven is quite good for that as they have good service, pretty gals, and the nuru slightly cheaper than other places. Can anyone confirm that?In my experience the place is irrelevant, as long as it is acceptable. Its up the chemistry, style, and skills of the particular girl. Once you find the right girl, she will make others look ordinary.

Had a lot of crap body slides in my time from girls that move too fast.

Sunlover2
07-28-15, 14:24
Heading to BKK (again) this week-end and want to try the nuru thing, I had many soapies, oilies etc. But I am curious and want to try now the nuru stuff.

Any advice on the best place among the oilies of soi 24/26 to get a decent nuru? And maybe a girl in particular with good body and technique? (no Dr BJ Nuru please).
No first hand experience, but the branch location of Analisa Massage advertises nuru services for a reasonable price: http://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/service/.

SL.

Oterri
07-28-15, 15:05
I love big naturals so wondering if there is any chance of finding some natural busty working girls in oilies or freelancer hangouts like beergarden. I have heard of reports that one may find them in Thai oriented massage places but I would prefer to find in Tulip Mango Snow White etc.

Syzygies
07-28-15, 20:01
This is fascinating, I would like to add though I had 3 girls from Nataree (at different times) come to my condo after only one prior visit to the establishment each obviously how I met them. Only 1 charged me. I'm no super stud.

I should add though all 3 whilst inside Nataree would not give me their line whilst in the room. I put my ID into their phone. Also 1 was adamant at the time if I want to see her I have to go there but after I left the building her tone changed.

I often see soapy girls outside of their work. Terawadee is also a good one for this.This is also fascinating. So what reason do you suppose they wanted to meet you outside? Surely they are not just looking for the extra sex? LOL. Are they so horny? Ha Ha! Even if I gave the girl copious orgasms, I still don't think she would come to me just for sex.

I would guess they are either looking for more money, even if too shy to say so, or are looking for a good guy for a more serious relationship. Even working girls can be lonely and looking for a warm hearted boyfriend. Are there major possibilities, that I forgot?

I have had a long term relationship with a Soapy girl for 4 years, after being her regular customer firstly, and also had some casual girls, so not without experience.

One girl was quite pissed off, after I had stayed with her a couple of days, and then decided I had had enough, as her personality wasn't what I wanted. All her friends at the Soapy refused to take me after that, so I don't know what she gossiped to them. The simple truth was, I had had enough of her, after initially being attracted, without knowing her well. I remember she had nice tits and a fairly good face, but it wasn't enough. I did pay her what I thought was fair. So did not rip her off in my view.

So how many extra times did they come to you for free? I find this behaviour a bit odd. And what were they looking for?

MatKong
07-29-15, 03:48
In my experience the place is irrelevant, as long as it is acceptable. Its up the chemistry, style, and skills of the particular girl. Once you find the right girl, she will make others look ordinary.

Had a lot of crap body slides in my time from girls that move too fast.Thanks Syz for your reply, yeah I guess the key for a good nuru is the girl more than the place. Any particular girl you're thinking about who gave you a memorable body slide experience?

Looking on Dream Heaven website (24/1 branch), Koy looks really hot, will pop-up by the place and check her out, if anyone had a session with her I would be grateful for a quick feedback.

And of course my report will follow.

Ixgzca
07-29-15, 11:11
This is also fascinating. So what reason do you suppose they wanted to meet you outside? Surely they are not just looking for the extra sex? LOL. Are they so horny? Ha Ha! Even if I gave the girl copious orgasms, I still don't think she would come to me just for sex...
I would guess they are either looking for more money, even if too shy to say so, or are looking for a good guy for a more serious relationship. Even working girls can be lonely and looking for a warm hearted boyfriend. Are there major possibilities, that I forgot?...
So how many extra times did they come to you for free? I find this behaviour a bit odd. And what were they looking for?That question could be asked of any relationship. I can't count how many working girls (or regular girls) have wanted to spend time with me outside of work. Of course it's not always about sex but, Syzygies, you as a senior monger would know that all sex is not equal. You have girls that you prefer over other girls and you can believe that the girls prefer certain guys over other guys. Nothing strange about it. I'm thinking of a few specific cases at the moment, where girls have pursued me outside of work for nothing more than a good time. Just sex, going out and being around someone their age who they felt at ease with. The girls were from all walks of life as well. I'm talking milfs, corporate, soapy, university, gogo and even oily girls. Oily girls behaving this way would be the most weird I guess, since they make good money and have lots of sex. The thinking would be why would they go out with a guy for free outside of work? Each girl has their reasons but, a girl doing it because she simply likes a guy isn't as rare as you might think.

Dan7373
07-29-15, 12:28
I love big naturals so wondering if there is any chance of finding some natural busty working girls in oilies or freelancer hangouts like beergarden. I have heard of reports that one may find them in Thai oriented massage places but I would prefer to find in Tulip Mango Snow White etc.Lady by the name of Run at Snow White massage might be someone you'd like to meet.

http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/lady/run/run.html

She is busty by Thai standards. And her pictures suggest that your oral and handy attention to her tits she would more than welcome. Which isn't always the case with some women.

Sucking the lady's tits is something I like to do every time, regardless of how big or how small the lady's tits are. And I can say from my own experience that many women are so sensitive, when it comes to a guy touching and sucking their tits, that they can't stand it, unless you masturbate her clit with your hand, while you suck her tit with your mouth. This seems to do the trick every time even for the most sensitive women I've met.

It actually took me a long time to discover this. For a long time, I couldn't understand why some women were so reluctant to let me touch and suck their tits. I thought they didn't want sex, or they weren't interested in me. But now I know better. Because masturbating the reluctant lady's clit immediately changes her attitude towards my tit-sucking every time. It's like she becomes very comfortable with it and starts enjoying it, even if just a minute ago she was squirming under it and could hardly stand it.

My motto now is that the way to any woman's tits is through her clit. Because for every lady who shows some discomfort with your tit-suck, there might be many more ladies who manage to hide their discomfort and pretend that they like it. Which means that the only way to make sure the lady is enjoying your tit suck on her is to masturbate her clit, while you go after her tits with your mouth and your other hand.

Syzygies
07-29-15, 14:35
Oily girls behaving this way would be the most weird I guess, since they make good money and have lots of sex. The thinking would be why would they go out with a guy for free outside of work? Each girl has their reasons but, a girl doing it because she simply likes a guy isn't as rare as you might think.And you don't think Soapy girls get enough sex? The good looking ones certainly do. I appreciate that much of it will be shit sex, but I still don't think their objective in a meeting a guy after work is just for sex. It's quite unlikely. Yes they do it for other reasons, and for many it will be for extra money, for some, they are lonely or want a boyfriend. Not for a casual fuck. Most unlikely.

An Emmanuelle girl once invited me to be her date for the Christmas party. For sure she was looking for some male company for dancing etc. And maybe to supply some booze. She was not looking for sex, either paid or not. She had fucked me at her work already.

Oilies can be more quiet than Soapies. Oily girls have told me they had days with zero customers. A good looking Soapy girl will almost never miss-out on a customer.

Sunlover2
07-29-15, 15:07
Lady by the name of Run at Snow White massage might be someone you'd like to meet.

http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/lady/run/run.htmlI believe the SW link you referenced is well out of date. Currently in use and updated is:

http://snowwhitesoi26.com/

SL.

Dinotrex
07-29-15, 15:14
What exactly is a Nuru massage?

Scorchin
07-29-15, 17:27
What exactly is a Nuru massage?'google' "Nuru Massage" you will find more information than can be accommodated in posts on here.

As to how each and every Thai massage parlour interprets "nuru massage," go ask them.

Francesco24
07-29-15, 18:26
My feeling is that was just the type of service she provides. She was "willing" I think; I am sure she would have taken a shot in the mouth, but truth be told there was no way that her BJ could have even gotten me close. Just not up that high on the intensity meter. A bit too soft. One of my biggest issues with Meena was no rimming. FFS, I even shaved right before I went for the sesh! A little humor there. Aside from the gal who wanted to shove a dildo up my tail another of my regulars delights in putting me on all fours and pouring coconut oil on my ass before diving in like a starving sea lamprey, all the while telling me how much she loves eating a*.

Meena told me she worked at a massage place in Soi Thaniya, which of course caters to our Japanese brethren. I do think their expectations are a bit different. They prefer a demure gal pretty gal who gives good service but does not act like a "sl*t. " Whereas I like a very aggressive gal who attacks me and screws like a rabid wolverine with juices, spit, lube, and everything imaginable ground into the sheets and both bodies covered in who knows what.

Hey, she is a nice gal, and actually quite fun to talk to. I could see her being a great companion for dinner, drinks, and then some fun for dude's who prefer GFE to PSE. In fact, I think you mentioned that. But for me, just not what I am looking for at the PSE shops. Those of you that frequented Baron's and Tulip in the early days can remember that "all girls do everything" meant just that. Don't think I had a dud for the first 4 years or so. But I would say the highlight time for oilies was Mango during it's first two years of operation. Cherry, Apple, Bo, Ammy, and Ann were amazing looking gals who were all just superstar performers. You just could not believe that you were balls deep up the turd cutter of gals this good looking. There was just about nothing these gals would not do to please the customer. CIM, ATM, you name it. They did it. And they at least acted like they enjoyed it. I sure miss 'them.I had similar experience with Meena few days ago. She is nice but nothing exceptional in my opinion.

About Mango, while Cherry, Bo, Ice, etc where all nice and super service. God knows how much I miss Ann even now. Would pay my whole monthly mongering budget to meet her just once a month.

Ixgzca
07-29-15, 19:11
And you don't think Soapy girls get enough sex? The good looking ones certainly do. I appreciate that much of it will be shit sex, but I still don't think their objective in a meeting a guy after work is just for sex. It's quite unlikely. Yes they do it for other reasons, and for many it will be for extra money, for some, they are lonely or want a boyfriend. Not for a casual fuck. Most unlikely.

An Emmanuelle girl once invited me to be her date for the Christmas party. For sure she was looking for some male company for dancing etc. And maybe to supply some booze. She was not looking for sex, either paid or not. She had fucked me at her work already.

Oilies can be more quiet than Soapies. Oily girls have told me they had days with zero customers. A good looking Soapy girl will almost never miss-out on a customer.I never meet with the girls that ask for money. If I want to have sex with them and they want money then I'll just see them at work. Less of a hassle. I also don't go out with a girl who will bring friends along and then expect me to pay. I'm very socially aware and I won't allow myself to be used. So at least in my case the girls aren't hitting the jackpot. I've had the girls that wanted me to be their boyfriend. It comes up early and often in those cases and I inform them of why it can never be and they usually accept it and move on or they accept it and continue coming over and ending up in my bed. I've had the lonely girls as well and they usually become clingy. Once they become too clingy I have to distance myself. So I really only deal with the girls looking for something casual.

The larger soapies have tons of girls and Japanese and western clientele have declined. So some soapy girls may get plenty of sex but, most don't get nearly as much as you think and even when they do they're not being worked over for two nonstop hours in all three holes like some of the oily girls. So that's the only reason why I said it would be a little more strange(though definitely strange for an oily or soapy girl) in the case of an oily girl wanting sex after work. I have just this situation at the moment though. A certain girl from Mango would come to my place almost every day after work if I let her. There is always sex. There is never any money involved and this has been going on over six months now. I turn her down when I want a quiet night or if I'm seeing someone else. If she's not looking for a casual fuck then I don't know how else you would explain it. This isn't an isolated incident either. Before this started with the Mango girl I had an identical situation with two soapy girls. One eventually quit and moved home and the other changed jobs and now has a nice Thai boyfriend. I wish them both the best. This all started from first meeting them at work and then just communicating a bit. You'd be amazed at what a little time investment on Line can get you these days.

Ixgzca
07-29-15, 19:20
Lady by the name of Run at Snow White massage might be someone you'd like to meet.

http://www.snowwhitemassage.com/lady/run/run.html
Man, you really dug that site up from the grave. I'm surprised it's still functioning. They must have purchased the domain outright instead of renting like most other sites. My first time in Snow White was with Run. So many years ago. Session was notable only because she pooped all over my phallus during the anal. A series of unfortunate events to say the least. Felt bad for whoever had to clean up that mess. The room was absolutely rank.

Asian Phetish
07-29-15, 20:32
Hi all,

Considering there is a public holiday Today and Tomorrow and also an alcohol ban, will the soapy massage places like Poseidon, the lord, nataree etc be open for business during this holiday?

Thanks in advance.

Mer Zues
07-30-15, 01:02
For anyone interested, Wan is back at Mango. Check their website.

Goatscrot
07-30-15, 08:09
God knows how much I miss Ann even now. Would pay my whole monthly mongering budget to meet her just once a month.Yes, she was just amazing. One of the most beautiful gals ever to work in an oily and such an amazingly dirty (in a good way) gal. She always got so wet and had such a devious look in her eye. She really enjoyed having a man at her mercy.

Francesco24
07-30-15, 09:10
Yes, she was just amazing. One of the most beautiful gals ever to work in an oily and such an amazingly dirty (in a good way) gal. She always got so wet and had such a devious look in her eye. She really enjoyed having a man at her mercy.Since then my quest has been to find a similarly looking girl with similar service but I never got even close once ahaha.

At least I took some videoclips with Ann I can rewatch sometime LOL.

SpDelhi
07-30-15, 11:58
I believe the SW link you referenced is well out of date. Currently in use and updated is:

http://snowwhitesoi26.com/

SL.Thanks for the correct link. Very helpful.

Will surely go there on my next trip coming along shortly.

BTW what is the damages for the full service and massage there.

Any recommendations for the best massage girl at this place.

Dan7373
07-30-15, 12:55
Man, you really dug that site up from the grave. I'm surprised it's still functioning. They must have purchased the domain outright instead of renting like most other sites. My first time in Snow White was with Run. So many years ago. Session was notable only because she pooped all over my phallus during the anal. A series of unfortunate events to say the least. Felt bad for whoever had to clean up that mess. The room was absolutely rank.Anal sex can easily lead to this kind of stuff with any lady, if she isn't ready.

I've read the interviews of some anal porn-stars. And these porn-stars say that they don't eat overnight and throughout the day, until their anal scene is finished. Only after it's finished, then they eat a lot to make up for their previous fasting.

They have to do it this way, because the digestive system automatically starts moving its contents as soon as you eat something. Which means that if the Thai lady you've been with had a good meal before you went to bed with her, then your anal sex with her could easily lead to the kind of situation you've described.

But this isn't a bad reflection on the lady. All it says about her and you is that both of you didn't quite know what you were doing, when you decided to have anal sex.

Ignorance isn't a virtue. But it's not something to blame people for either. Because everybody is ignorant about something. Nobody knows everything. And of course, people learn from their experience. Which means that lady Run is probably better now, if she is still willing to have anal sex with guys.

Dan7373
07-30-15, 14:25
What exactly is a Nuru massage?Nuru massage is a body-to-body massage that's lubricated with a water-based lubricant called Nuru. The active ingredient in this lubricant is a seaweed extract. And the name Nuru originates in Japan, which is where this lubricant is originally from.

In terms of the feel and lubrication, I'm not sure if you can tell the difference between Nuru and the K-Y Jelly, which is also a water-based lubricant. Both of these lubricants tend to dry out, because human skin and mucous membranes absorb water from the lubricant. But you can easily make it slippery again by splashing some water on it.

This water-based lubricant is good for more than just a body-to-body massage. It's also excellent stuff to put on the flat of your hand and massage your lady's pussy to get her up and going after your cock. Which is the thing to do during a Nuru massage, because this stuff is right there in front of you and so is her pussy. You just need to dip your hand in some water if it starts to dry out.

From my own experience I can say that using this lubricant on the lady's pussy with plenty of water enables you to do something extra with her. This stuff is so slippery that you can massage your lady's pussy with your hand really fast, without making it uncomfortable for her. And the thing about massaging the lady's pussy really fast is that this makes her lose control during the ball. The variety of pleasant sensations come at her brain so fast that she can no longer keep up with it in her mind. All she can do is feel these sensations as they come at her and accept them as they come in their raw form. This is the same as being lost in the moment of primal pleasure. Because her higher brain centers are no longer processing her pleasure. She feels this pleasure in its raw form, without any inhibitions at all.

Speed is of the essence to make this work. Because you need to make it so fast that the lady's higher brain centers can no longer predict what will happen next and prepare to process the information. It's a way to make her feel the raw, primal pleasure without any distractions or inhibitions by higher brain centers.

I suppose this works like a denial-of-service attack on a website. The attacker sends so many messages to the website computer that it can no longer keep up and stops working. Except in this case it's the lady's higher brain centers that stop working, which leaves only her lower brain centers to feel the raw, animal pleasure.

And of course, lube is very important for making this work. Because without the lube and plenty of water, a really fast pussy-massage would cause too much friction and pain for the lady, rather than pleasure.

Syzygies
07-31-15, 04:37
I turned up to Crazy House at 10 pm or so on Wednesday. Was busy. My mistake partly as best girl or two already had a customer. It's much better to get there early. Noticed girls changing customer. Many guys hope girl will go to him after work and pay no bar fine. Ha ha. Many don't want to pay the girl's price. She can easily move on and get someone who will pay, when she is one of the best girls. One I think of looked good and had natural DCups.

Turgid
07-31-15, 05:15
I used to contemplate taking one for the team at one of the Soi 23 massage places as there are no reports on them here but an experience has gotten me negative on that. On Wednesday evening I was walking past one when a massage girl grabbed my hand entreating me to enter, I pulled her hand to my lips to kiss it and she pulled her hand away saying "200 Baht"; that was 200 Baht to kiss her hand. That was her mindset and I suspect it is the same with the other Soi 23 girls. I doubt a good session can be had with such a girl.

Robert Long
07-31-15, 06:47
I turned up to Crazy House at 10 pm or so on Wednesday. Was busy. My mistake partly as best girl or two already had a customer. It's much better to get there early. Noticed girls changing customer. Many guys hope girl will go to him after work and pay no bar fine. Ha ha. Many don't want to pay the girl's price. She can easily move on and get someone who will pay, when she is one of the best girls. One I think of looked good and had natural DCups.Many stars on stage in there. What is the going rate BF and ST for these ladies? Do you have to use the back rooms or can you take out?

Thanks.

RL.

Wolvenvacht
07-31-15, 06:53
I used to contemplate taking one for the team at one of the Soi 23 massage places as there are no reports on them here but an experience has gotten me negative on that. On Wednesday evening I was walking past one when a massage girl grabbed my hand entreating me to enter, I pulled her hand to my lips to kiss it and she pulled her hand away saying "200 Baht"; that was 200 Baht to kiss her hand. That was her mindset and I suspect it is the same with the other Soi 23 girls. I doubt a good session can be had with such a girl.I think it is unfair to the girls of Soi 23 to generalize one "experience" to all. I remember I had once a quite nice session at Se Daeng (in front of the Citadines hotel). They have good rooms, although the airco was too cold and I asked to switch it off. Everything was available for (if I remember well) for a fee of 1500 baht to the girl and 300 baht to the house for the massage and room. Including the tip, I spend 2000 baht for a nice hour.

Turgid
07-31-15, 08:55
I think it is unfair to the girls of Soi 23 to generalize one "experience" to all. I remember I had once a quite nice session at Se Daeng (in front of the Citadines hotel). They have good rooms, although the airco was too cold and I asked to switch it off. Everything was available for (if I remember well) for a fee of 1500 baht to the girl and 300 baht to the house for the massage and room. Including the tip, I spend 2000 baht for a nice hour.Thanks for this. I am back to contemplating. However, just looking at these girls as they attempt to lure gents into their lair smacks of a con. I will eventually succumb but I so hate to be scammed, it puts me in a very foul mood.

OldPhart
07-31-15, 10:22
I used to contemplate taking one for the team at one of the Soi 23 massage places .That's very noble of you.

I find that even Soi 22 is tourist-infested and prone to higher prices for poorer service, EXCEPT for Bongkot, Hana, and Honey Bee.

For this reason, if I return to Analisa / Tantric, I think it will be to Sensual Massage on Soi Udomsuk. Full service is on the menu, sounds worth a visit.

http://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/service/

Scroll down to tantric full service.

I'll be back in KT on Mother's Day.

Wolvenvacht
07-31-15, 20:02
However, just looking at these girls as they attempt to lure gents into their lair smacks of a con.Is that in any way different from NEP or Soi Cowboy or any other Red Light District?


I will eventually succumb but I so hate to be scammed, it puts me in a very foul mood.I which case it would be far better to stay away: you will never have a good session if you are in a foul mood to start with.

EihTooms
07-31-15, 20:23
Many stars on stage in there. What is the going rate BF and ST for these ladies? Do you have to use the back rooms or can you take out?

Thanks.

RL.I doubt the person you asked knows the answer to your questions so I'll jump in if I may. There are always exceptions but the general drill at Crazy House is 700 baht to the bar, 2000 to 2500 baht to the girl for short time. Most girls will start at 2500 baht if asked. Don't let the mamasan get involved in the negotiation if you can help it because the CH mamasans are notorious for jacking up the asking price for the girl and pocketing the excess as her "translation" commission. Worse, she'll try to collect the girl's portion up front.

The girl can be taken to the adjacent short time rooms or taken out, up to you and the girl.

Also, it is quite common for the several Crazy House girls I have taken out to work side deals with me before shift, after hours and on their days off so I don't pay a barfine. And then they are even happy with my paying them less than the going rate. I've got a couple of popular CH dancers who quite regularly stay long time, all night, with me in my apartment, until noon or later the next day, for 2000 baht and sometimes less. But I wouldn't say that is something every regular customer ought to expect. But I assure you it happens no less often with Crazy House girls than others.

Syzygies
08-02-15, 00:33
Many stars on stage in there. What is the going rate BF and ST for these ladies? Do you have to use the back rooms or can you take out?

Thanks.

RL.I have been away on an Island.

There are no back rooms. Yes can take out. There are short time Hotels nearby. 700 BF.

I don't discuss prices in general. However I believe the standard starting price that girls ask for ST is 2500. Some girls will go for less. Some want more possibly. You can't assume same price for all. Some you lookers can get Japanese or Korean customers easily. So price is more related to looks than service level.

One girl did not want to go with me recently. Price not even discussed. She commented she would rather go to the disco, me than go have sex. Maybe she likes young handsome customers. Its unusual to get a refusal but she probably had some guy lined up. The disco would have to close midnight no alcohol.

Sunlover2
08-02-15, 01:43
Thanks for the correct link. Very helpful.

Will surely go there on my next trip coming along shortly.

BTW what is the damages for the full service and massage there.1,500 baht is the amount to give to the lady after your session is over. Just to make it clear to her before you start - tell her you want a "special massage. ".

This is in addition to the amount you pay the house (for the room) before you go upstairs: 1 HR /400 baht, 1. 5 h /600 baht, 2 h /800 baht.

For one hour you normally get 1 pop. Longer than that you get multiple pops. Based on VFM most guys choose to go for longer than one hour.

SL.

Alexander Viv
08-02-15, 05:33
Is there any massage parlor where the full service is provided by the Russian or European ladies?

Jimiau
08-03-15, 01:46
Hi guys,

Been a while since I was in BKK. In the past I would see girls like Bo, Apple, Cherry and Ann. At Mango and Cherry. Last saw Bo at Bamboo massage.

Sadly it looks like a like they have all moved on or retired. Can anyone recommend any girls in BKK who give the same amazing service that these great girls were so well known and loved for?

Thanks

Jeremy101
08-03-15, 16:59
Hi guys,

Been a while since I was in BKK. In the past I would see girls like Bo, Apple, Cherry and Ann. At Mango and Cherry. Last saw Bo at Bamboo massage.

Sadly it looks like a like they have all moved on or retired. Can anyone recommend any girls in BKK who give the same amazing service that these great girls were so well known and loved for?

ThanksTry Sora at Yorimichi, let her pick a friend and make it a threesome, the girl's a freak (at least she is with me). She could make a sailor blush.

http://www.gdiary.com/traditional-massage/よ12426;36947;12510;12483;12469;12540;12472;-yorimichi-massage / bowvi.

Mjen1970
08-03-15, 17:25
Hi guys,

Been a while since I was in BKK. In the past I would see girls like Bo, Apple, Cherry and Ann. At Mango and Cherry. Last saw Bo at Bamboo massage.

Sadly it looks like a like they have all moved on or retired. Can anyone recommend any girls in BKK who give the same amazing service that these great girls were so well known and loved for?

ThanksDid you write any reviews for bo, apple, cherry or Anne?

Syzygies
08-03-15, 20:16
I have not been to MPs that much this year. Looked in EZ first after 6 PM Monday. Nadia not working today. Rose was there but no makeup looking rather plain. I have known her for a few years. Others not interesting to me. Don't like big sillies.

A couple of OK looking girls outside Mango. Then went to Snow White. 12 to 15 girls. All pudgy to fat to my eye. Passed some Soi 24/1 shops. One girl outside All stars looked reasonable. 2 to 3 good lookers outside Boss. Rest of the shops had ugly girls outside, including Cherry.

Then to Yoremichi. Line up about 10 girls or so. One girl appealed Ying. Pretty face, good body, not quite slim but almost Ccups, dark skin. Turned out she wasn't so great in the room, a cleanliness freak. Cannot kiss mouth after kissing pussy. Unreponsive to DATY. BBBJ quite okay Nice and soft. A DS (Dick Scared) girl and I meet plenty of them. Despite lots of lube and insert extremely slowly, she is screwing up her face after only 2 inches is in. Girls just imagine this "pain". Its not real. Its just the anticipation of what will happen when it goes all in. Her legs were a bit on the stiff side, but not the worst case around. Never managed full insertion naturally, despite her pussy not feeling particularly tight.

As her body and tits were good, I managed to get it off eventually. Naturally no repeat. Actually she had a nose job, but was such a good one, as I couldn't tell. This is rare.

My usual problem. Its hard to find any lookers that perform great in the Oilies. Will keep looking. New, at All Stars last time, was a DS girl but was sufficiently better to be a possible repeat.

Banana Boi
08-03-15, 22:23
A DS (Dick Scared) girl and I meet plenty of them. Despite lots of lube and insert extremely slowly, she is screwing up her face after only 2 inches is in. Girls just imagine this "pain". Its not real. Its just the anticipation of what will happen when it goes all in.

imagined "pain". lol Syzy

Syzygies
08-04-15, 04:54
Can anyone explain the logic as to why a girl can suck on a dick, can also kiss me, fastidiously cleans her pussy, but cannot kiss me after I have kissed her pussy. Both of us are non-smokers.

I guess not. Is just female crazy thoughts. I can kiss the girl after she sucked my dick. No big issue. Anyway fortunately most girls can still kiss after pussy has been licked very thoroughly indeed.

Francesco24
08-04-15, 05:20
Can anyone explain the logic as to why a girl can suck on a dick, can also kiss me, fastidiously cleans her pussy, but cannot kiss me after I have kissed her pussy. Both of us are non-smokers.

I guess not. Is just female crazy thoughts. I can kiss the girl after she sucked my dick. No big issue. Anyway fortunately most girls can still kiss after pussy has been licked very thoroughly indeed.Honestly I used to feel the same in the past. I didn't like to kiss a girl after she sucks my cock.

Now I don't care anymore, but honestly if the sessions isn't going very well (for whatever reason I not feel excited enough) even now I may avoid kissing.

FiddyCent
08-04-15, 06:26
Can anyone explain the logic as to why a girl can suck on a dick, can also kiss me, fastidiously cleans her pussy, but cannot kiss me after I have kissed her pussy. Both of us are non-smokers.

I guess not. Is just female crazy thoughts. I can kiss the girl after she sucked my dick. No big issue. Anyway fortunately most girls can still kiss after pussy has been licked very thoroughly indeed.Hello Syzygies.

Logically speaking, is the girl afraid of her own pussy juice? She won't kiss you after DATY, but will she lick your fingers that you have inserted during DATY? I have read that Thais in general do not allow you to touch their heads. If that is the most important part of their body, then does bringing something up from a lower part of her body make her reject it? I guess holding a girls' head during BBBJ is out of the question too.

FiddyCent.

Dinotrex
08-04-15, 06:31
Just wanted to confirm with the pros here. I've been RTFF of the recent posts. Is it true that at the massage places, the average cost is about 1500 b? And for the bars there's a bar fine of about 400 b and 2500 b for the girl?

Are the bar girls that much better that they'd charge 1000 b more than a massage joint? (That's not even including the bar fine. That's almost 3000 b for a bar girl) which would be DOUBLE. At least with the oilylies or massage places, I'd get a pseudo massage out of it too.

Any comments on the issue?

Syzygies
08-04-15, 06:36
I have read that Thais in general do not allow you to touch their heads. If that is the most important part of their body, then does bringing something up from a lower part of her body make her reject it? I guess holding a girls' head during BBBJ is out of the question too.

FiddyCent.Thais girls do not like guys pulling on ponytail. The head taboo is only a mild one. I never hold a girl's head during BBBJ, regardless of her nationality. However some Thai girls have been known to pull on my head during DATY when they are getting close to orgasm and want it a bit stronger. Intimate people are allowed to touch each others heads as long as it is done nicely. You would not touch someone's head, who you do not know though.

Dinotrex
08-04-15, 06:40
Then to Yoremichi. Line up about 10 girls or so. One girl appealed Ying. Pretty face, good body, not quite slim but almost Ccups, dark skin. Turned out she wasn't so great in the room, a cleanliness freak. Cannot kiss mouth after kissing pussy. Unreponsive to DATY. BBBJ quite okay Nice and soft. A DS (Dick Scared) girl and I meet plenty of them. Despite lots of lube and insert extremely slowly, she is screwing up her face after only 2 inches is in. Girls just imagine this "pain". Its not real. Its just the anticipation of what will happen when it goes all in. Her legs were a bit on the stiff side, but not the worst case around. Never managed full insertion naturally, despite her pussy not feeling particularly tight.

As her body and tits were good, I managed to get it off eventually. Naturally no repeat. Actually she had a nose job, but was such a good one, as I couldn't tell. This is rare.

My usual problem. Its hard to find any lookers that perform great in the Oilies. Will keep looking. New, at All Stars last time, was a DS girl but was sufficiently better to be a possible repeat.Is there any point to complaint to the mamasan afterwards?

Better question. In your opinion, (if you can), One out of How many girls would you say are DS (dick scared)? Percentage wise? That would be a mood killer if she'd stop you after just putting in 2 inches. This is why IMO that pros are better than the non-pros.

Syzygies
08-04-15, 07:00
Just wanted to confirm with the pros here. I've been RTFF of the recent posts. Is it true that at the massage places, the average cost is about 1500 b? And for the bars there's a bar fine of about 400 b and 2500 b for the girl?

Are the bar girls that much better that they'd charge 1000 b more than a massage joint? (That's not even including the bar fine. That's almost 3000 b for a bar girl) which would be DOUBLE. At least with the oilylies or massage places, I'd get a pseudo massage out of it too.

Any comments on the issue?Bar fines are typically 600 or 700 Baht. At a massage joint you will pay for the massage separately plus 1500 minimum for full sex, assuming no extra tip. Alternatively you can pay maybe 2200 Baht all inclusive, plus any tip.

It is true that bar girls are generally more expensive. Few girls will go with you short time for only 1500 Baht, I suspect, especially if they are good looking. 2000 Baht is more common. Some of the bar girls may be good looking and have good bodies, possibly considered to justify a higher price.

Some of the top lookers maybe expecting 2500 even 3000 Baht. Believe me, they can get it, if they are in the top 3%.

You can get a crap service anywhere, whether Oilies or Bars. Can get dick scared girls in both Oilies and bars. Maybe the PSE Oily shops have less girls girls giving poor service, however I have experienced poor service in a PSE shop on occasions. Vodka at Cherry was one example. Sometimes Oily girls can be too tired or just fucked out. This is less likely with bargirls.

My big problem with Oilies, is finding a super looker with good service, and not with ugly fake nose or tits. If I do find one I will keep repeating. I find this combination easier to find in the bars. If you don't need the fabulous looks, then Oilies is the cheaper option.

Syzygies
08-04-15, 07:09
Is there any point to complaint to the mamasan afterwards?

Better question. In your opinion, (if you can), One out of How many girls would you say are DS (dick scared)? Percentage wise? That would be a mood killer if she'd stop you after just putting in 2 inches. This is why IMO that pros are better than the non-pros.She did not stop me after 2 inches its just the face is screwed up like she is struggling to stand it. LOL No chance of a GFE. I still managed to cum in the end. She was however wanting me to finish quicker.

I meet a lot of DS girls, in bars or Oilies, much less so with PSE Oily shops, and much less so with older girls like 30 plus. Even girls that have had babies can be very tight and still dick scared. To put a percentage on is difficult. With western hookers its only about 20%. With Thai girls that are not in PSE type shops, its getting close to 50%. Could be higher. I don't keep a tally. Obviously it cuts my success rate markedly and makes every new girl tried a gamble. I therefore have excellent reasons to keep repeating my favourite girls that like dick and are not scared. There are also girls reluctant because I tend to take a long time to cum and therefore, even though a soft fucker, its a long duration sex that scares some on them. Again PSE type shops would be more used to lengthy fucking.

No point to complain to mamsan. She could just say "Anaconda" and everyone would be happy with her excuse. In Thailand you even get girls refusing you, before they have even seen you without pants on. At one Oily in Soi 24/1 the girl was very pretty. She however told me straight off that she likes small dicks and would not take me unless I was small. I suppose she wanted to see it first. LOL

I believe I am actually only slightly above the western average, compensated for by being a slow and soft fucker. No Sadist. So I just don't understand the problem. I understand much better that girls do not like to fuck for a very long time.

FiddyCent
08-04-15, 07:18
Thais girls do not like guys pulling on ponytail. The head taboo is only a mild one. I never hold a girl's head during BBBJ, regardless of her nationality. However some Thai girls have been known to pull on my head during DATY when they are getting close to orgasm and want it a bit stronger. Intimate people are allowed to touch each others heads as long as it is done nicely. You would not touch someone's head, who you do not know though.Thanks for identifying the boundaries, Syzygies.

Normally, I never tug on a girl's ponytail, especially during doggy. I prefer to grab a hold of both her arms in locked position for a greater pull and thrust. I do like to cradle a girl's head during BBBJ. I like to gently caress her hair and sometimes brush it back so that I can see her pretty face while she works on me.

I will make sure she grabs my head when I give her DATY. Much prefer that over her giving me the straight arm, pushing my forehead away. LOL.

FiddyCent.

Goatscrot
08-04-15, 07:43
She did not stop me after 2 inches its just the face is screwed up like she is struggling to stand it. LOL No chance of a GFE. I still managed to cum in the end. She was however wanting me to finish quicker.

I meet a lot of DS girls, in bars or Oilies, much less so with PSE Oily shops, and much less so with older girls like 30 plus. Even girls that have had babies can be very tight and still dick scared. To put a percentage on is difficult. With western hookers its only about 20%. With Thai girls that are not in PSE type shops, its getting close to 50%. Could be higher. I don't keep a tally. Obviously it cuts my success rate markedly and makes every new girl tried a gamble. I therefore have excellent reasons to keep repeating my favourite girls that like dick and are not scared. There are also girls reluctant because I tend to take a long time to cum and therefore, even though a soft fucker, its a long duration sex that scares some on them. Again PSE type shops would be more used to lengthy fucking.

No point to complain to mamsan. She could just say "Anaconda" and everyone would be happy with her excuse. In Thailand you even get girls refusing you, before they have even seen you without pants on. At one Oily in Soi 24/1 the girl was very pretty. She however told me straight off that she likes small dicks and would not take me unless I was small. I suppose she wanted to see it first. LOL

I believe I am actually only slightly above the western average, compensated for by being a slow and soft fucker. No Sadist. So I just don't understand the problem. I understand much better that girls do not like to fuck for a very long time.Yea, some of these gals have just chosen the wrong line of work. Had a sesh for the first time with the infamous Sandy at Addict recently and we spoke a bit about the lack of performance from so many of the oily gals these days. Sandy mentioned that she has tried to coach some of the girls at Addict but to no avail. And then they ask her why she has so many customers and are perplexed about it. I guess some of these gals think they can get by just on looks, and perhaps with certain demographics they can. Sandy of course seems to really enjoy sex and enjoy her work. She delights in having a man in the palm of her hand and delivering pleasure and fun. As Sandy said to most of the gals now it is just "work. ".

The average farang has about a 5 inch pecker or there abouts. If you are packing 7+ then for many of the gals it is a bit daunting, especially if they don't like sex. If they do it can be a real treat for them. Great thing about most PSE shop gals is they can take a pounding and in many cases enjoy it.

Syzygies
08-04-15, 08:25
Yea, some of these gals have just chosen the wrong line of work. Had a sesh for the first time with the infamous Sandy at Addict recently and we spoke a bit about the lack of performance from so many of the oily gals these days. Sandy mentioned that she has tried to coach some of the girls at Addict but to no avail. And then they ask her why she has so many customers and are perplexed about it. I guess some of these gals think they can get by just on looks, and perhaps with certain demographics they can. Sandy of course seems to really enjoy sex and enjoy her work. She delights in having a man in the palm of her hand and delivering pleasure and fun. As Sandy said to most of the gals now it is just "work. ".

The average farang has about a 5 inch pecker or there abouts. If you are packing 7+ then for many of the gals it is a bit daunting, especially if they don't like sex. If they do it can be a real treat for them. Great thing about most PSE shop gals is they can take a pounding and in many cases enjoy it.Thanks for the insights. I think the girls at Oilies have generally declined in service markedly over the last few years. When I first started in Oilies, quite late since I did Soapies for years before that, I was probably using Tulip, Thonglor 2, Angel occasionally, and a few others, I forget the names, and most of the girls were pretty much okay It was only the top looks difficult to find. These days it is a lot more miss than hit unless in PSE shops.

Finding Bai-Fern at Yoremichi a couple of years back, I now realize was a super fluke, since she was stunning in face and body, and a very bubbly fun GFE. I believe she only lasted a couple of months and left reportedly to get married. Could not last. Gaew at Pink lasted a lot longer. Her body was fabulous and face quite nice but service a bit lower. Still great though due to visuals. Angie at Cherry had incredible body and only lasted only weeks, if that long. If her service wasn't really top, I didn't care. I liked Cat at Mango and June at SW, so even though not stunning, these girls were good enough looking and fun for me. Any girls like those around these days? I would be happy enough with that standard, if no sillies. I was okay With Niw at All Stars. Very pretty. Its just a pity she is hampered by being DS, and I think BJ was a bit ordinary.

I had assumed the average was like 6 inches, and less for Asians. I do still find girls that like sex though and don't care much what size the dick is, as long as not like a poor guy I know with a dick like a coke bottle. Its not at all impossible for hookers to enjoy sex if they like the customer. Even those that don't get it off, can still give customer service if they want. Thinking of some of the famous super stars.

I never give girls a pounding. So its hard to understand their trepidation. Some are mothers and a baby already popped out of there. I always assumed that girls would be much more scared of a pounding since uterus is not that deep (maybe only 4 to 5 inches) and could get badly bruised. I can't fuck girls with padding sponge inserted into pussy during the period, since if put fingers in I can feel it at 3 to 4 inches in. It just completely spoils the feeling of sex for me, but strangely many guys don't seem to know that girls have these things inside them. Girls are always surprised by me knowing something is wrong straight away.

Goatscrot
08-04-15, 10:14
I never give girls a pounding. So its hard to understand their trepidation. Some are mothers and a baby already popped out of there. I always assumed that girls would be much more scared of a pounding since uterus is not that deep (maybe only 4 to 5 inches) and could get badly bruised. I can't fuck girls with padding sponge inserted into pussy during the period, since if put fingers in I can feel it at 3 to 4 inches in. It just completely spoils the feeling of sex for me, but strangely many guys don't seem to know that girls have these things inside them. Girls are always surprised by me knowing something is wrong straight away.I don't mean "pounding" literally, only figuratively. Just talking about gals that liked to be screwed intensely. The day after a good sesh my pubic bone is usually a bit bruised from the gal grinding on me and me grinding on her. It is incredible that gals who have had a kid would have issue with a penis. But, if they are not into it and dry, it is understandable.

The sponge is a no go for me as well. I can tell instantly and even with a condom on they can abrade the pecker.

Syzygies
08-04-15, 11:42
I don't mean "pounding" literally, only figuratively. Just talking about gals that liked to be screwed intensely. The day after a good sesh my pubic bone is usually a bit bruised from the gal grinding on me and me grinding on her. It is incredible that gals who have had a kid would have issue with a penis. But, if they are not into it and dry, it is understandable.

The sponge is a no go for me as well. I can tell instantly and even with a condom on they can abrade the pecker.I think it is obvious what pounding means. Sure vigorous sex which makes a mild bang bang sound on collision. I have felt discomfort when girls have pounded me in cowgirl position from the force. One girl from Thonglor 2 years ago pounded me in Cowgirl position and was bleeding afterwards. Not my fault. I wasn't in control. My current Crazy House favourite likes to be pounded a bit, but I am probably not powerful enough for her preference. She likes DATY quite hard at the climax in order to cum. I would say she orgasms with difficulty but maybe be easier for an experienced pounder to get her there. Definitely seems enthusiastic on the bed and I like how she tongue kisses too. Not meeting many girls that want the hard fucking though. Could be too dangerous to their health.

Abrading the condom is common. Sponge broke the condom for me many years ago so I know this danger all too well. After condom abraded, next it is your cock. Sponges are dangerous. I don't care if there is a little color coming out on the condom, when girl has a period.

I use heaps of a very high quality non-sticky lube from OS that does not dry up quickly, unless girl wants to use her own. So never do dry humping. I like the very slippery feel. Natural juices last for just a short time, but lube is essential with condoms. I even argue for more lube when girl wants less.

I know one girl who doesn't like lube because she has strong pussy muscles and she likes to get a real grip on your cock. The lube weakens her vice like grip. She is not in Thailand, so no use to ask where to find her. She is known as the Squeezebox on another forum.

Goatscrot
08-04-15, 12:08
I use heaps of a very high quality non-sticky lube from OS that does not dry up quickly, unless girl wants to use her own. So never do dry humping. I like the very slippery feel. Natural juices last for just a short time, but lube is essential with condoms. I even argue for more lube when girl wants less.

I know one girl who doesn't like lube because she has strong pussy muscles and she likes to get a real grip on your cock. The lube weakens her vice like grip. She is not in Thailand, so no use to ask where to find her. She is known as the Squeezebox on another forum.Big fan of lube. I put it on my pecker before I put on the condom and I find that I have far fewer failures. Some gals think that it will slip off, but that never happens. It also keeps the latex from abrading me as well.

I have found that very few Thai gals have good control over their pubic muscles. The Kegel is not well known here. Contrast with the US where almost every woman does them.

Syzygies
08-04-15, 12:34
I have found that very few Thai gals have good control over their pubic muscles. The Kegel is not well known here. Contrast with the US where almost every woman does them.I only know the one Thai girl with a strong squeezing pussy. Older girl Noi last seen at Mercury in Nana (ex Hotlips and Dollhouse). Great toned body small tits.

Dinotrex
08-04-15, 17:04
What's a Kegel??

Red Kilt
08-05-15, 03:44
What's a Kegel??Dino.

Have you never heard of "Google"? Very simple look up before you ask such a question.

From Wiki:

Pelvic floor exercise, also known as Kegel exercise; consists of repeatedly contracting and relaxing the muscles that form part of the pelvic floor, now sometimes colloquially referred to as the "Kegel muscles". (There's a picture too if you need more detail).

Turgid
08-05-15, 04:03
I like kegel but only when a constant pressure is maintained throughout. When the pressure varies repeatedly I enjoy the session less. But that is just me. The best practitioner of this art for me was a German girl at an FKK who no longer works there.

Turgid
08-05-15, 04:12
Big fan of lube. I put it on my pecker before I put on the condom and I find that I have far fewer failures. Some gals think that it will slip off, but that never happens. It also keeps the latex from abrading me as well.I'm a lover of lube myself. In my travels I have encountered some girls who do not like it. I have not met a Thai girl who does not. I have never rubbed it on my boy then put on the condom but will give it a try.

Goatscrot
08-05-15, 04:40
I like kegel but only when a constant pressure is maintained throughout. When the pressure varies repeatedly I enjoy the session less. But that is just me. The best practitioner of this art for me was a German girl at an FKK who no longer works there.I like a gal that can squeeze and massage with her snatch.

Canyon
08-05-15, 05:54
Syzgies,

Please check your message box.

Canyon.

Syzygies
08-05-15, 06:39
Syzgies,

Please check your message box.

Canyon.I did check earlier. LOL and again now. You can call me. Sorry forum. Some things are urgent. Alas I most of my favourite girls have disappeared, retired, or whatever. Won't know have much good advice for old buddy Canyon who likes a service a bit different to my style I fear.

I am searching for new super girl talent too. Not many dream P4P girls around. LOL Compromise on the looks or on the service? Which is better? I tend to compromise on the service more so, but not not always and not for a really regular girl. I can always compromise on the body a little, but an ugly to really ordinary face is just not an option. Also cannot do any really fat ass girls. I can stand it, if tits are not great, the normal sag after a child, and can stand silicones sometimes. Really convex hard sillies are not an option. Too many MP girls seem to have a bad hard tit job. I need some softness. Don't like straight boy type figures, girls that look like ladyboys.

Each time I arrive or leave the ST Hotel on Asoke, I am amazed by the number of customers with a LB, whether Asian or Farang guys. I wonder if they always know what they have got.

John Doe69
08-05-15, 08:23
I am amazed by the number of customers with a LB, whether Asian or Farang guys. I wonder if they always know what they have got.I'm quite certain they are. At least if the LB is pre-op. Why should the LB risk tricking someone who is only interested in genuine girls? That would be a definitive call for trouble and the risk of no payment. LB are not that stupid.

Post-Ops might try and get away with it when they prevent the guy from looking / touching. But in that case: Why bother when you have enjoyed your session?

Jeremy101
08-05-15, 10:49
A new MP called Analisa has a number of "kinky massage services" including "kidnapped from the airport" and training" (I'd be good at that). Pretty funny.

http://www.analisamassage.com/kinky-massage

Goatscrot
08-05-15, 12:33
I did check earlier. LOL and again now. You can call me. Sorry forum. Some things are urgent. Alas I most of my favourite girls have disappeared, retired, or whatever. Won't know have much good advice for old buddy Canyon who likes a service a bit different to my style I fear.

I am searching for new super girl talent too. Not many dream P4P girls around. LOL Compromise on the looks or on the service? Which is better? I tend to compromise on the service more so, but not not always and not for a really regular girl. I can always compromise on the body a little, but an ugly to really ordinary face is just not an option. Also cannot do any really fat ass girls. I can stand it, if tits are not great, the normal sag after a child, and can stand silicones sometimes. Really convex hard sillies are not an option. Too many MP girls seem to have a bad hard tit job. I need some softness. Don't like straight boy type figures, girls that look like ladyboys.

Each time I arrive or leave the ST Hotel on Asoke, I am amazed by the number of customers with a LB, whether Asian or Farang guys. I wonder if they always know what they have got.Funny, I am just the opposite when it comes to compromises. I can take a marginal face, but a marginal body won't work for me. I will also compromise on looks rather than service these days. I also find really dim gals a turn off. I have found that the smarter better educated gals are also better in the service dept for the most part. It is just impossible to find great looks, great performance, some smarts, and amazing attitude all in one package these days.

I noticed the increased number of dudes with LBs a couple of years ago. Perhaps that is due to the declining numbers of gals.

Kuratla
08-05-15, 17:51
Hi brothers.

I've been chatting on ThaiFriendly with a girl who works at Kinnaree massage and spa on Suk soi 8. Wondering if it's a legit place or if specials go on there.

Basically want to know if she's a working girl or not.

Cheers.

Tomasb
08-05-15, 21:29
The only full service massage place on SOI 8 that I am aware of is Bamboo, which on a small alley directly off Soi 8. There are several massage places at the beginning of Soi 8 but all offer straight massages with no full service or even he. However, I have found a few gals at the massage place just a few steps from the Kiwi bar that will offer a he. This is not the case in every instance but think the girls there are the most attractive in that Soi.

Of course, there are the BJ' bars adjacent to SOI 6 including the infamous named one.


Hi brothers.

I've been chatting on ThaiFriendly with a girl who works at Kinnaree massage and spa on Suk soi 8. Wondering if it's a legit place or if specials go on there.

Basically want to know if she's a working girl or not.

Cheers.

Syzygies
08-06-15, 03:44
I'm quite certain they are. At least if the LB is pre-op. Why should the LB risk tricking someone who is only interested in genuine girls? That would be a definitive call for trouble and the risk of no payment. LB are not that stupid.

Post-Ops might try and get away with it when they prevent the guy from looking / touching. But in that case: Why bother when you have enjoyed your session?You can't apply logic to these things and expect to get the right answer.

Sorry, but LB trickery is very well known. My bar girl N from Crazy House likes Koreans (handsome, small dick and quick fuck) but tells me they are a bit dumb and often do not know they have got a LB. She was with a group of 6 Koreans that had picked up their ladies from different places. She said that 2 of the 6 girls were LBs, and that the men didn't seem to know and of course the Thai girls could not say anything or the LBs would have been very angry.

If pre-op, the LB may try to blow the guy only without taking knickers off, or my girl suggested that the LB will often be fucked in the ass.

My Thai girl N doesn't like Farangs much. Says she had some bad experiences of sadistic guys who wanted to choke her throat or slap her. I can't understand this behaviour myself. Are the guys just copying porn movies, or are they really into making a girl suffer. Maybe someone on the forum who does this stuff can explain it? She is a little scared to be with me thinking I fuck too long, however she still goes with me as needs the money to pay the rent.

Meanwhile I understand why Crazy House had such a great line up on Monday. 3rd of each month is pay day. Last night at 8 PM the line up was a bit weak, but girls kept drifting in late. By 9 PM or 9. 30 the line up had improved significantly. My best girl O had day off. However plenty of other girls I could do.

Dragonrider
08-06-15, 04:18
I'm coming to Thailand in a month (after a 30 year hiatus). My last day, my flight leaves at midnight. So I'm asking for ideas as to what to do that last day.

My initial thought was to meander from massage parlor to massage parlor until it's time to head to the airport around 8 pm. At the moment I don't have a preference for soapy vs oily. Initially I was going to go for a bunch of sessions at the oily's on Sukhumvit 24/1 Alley (Allstars Massage, Apple Massage, etc) but then there are the soapy's on Rachadapisek.

If it were you, what would you do?

EihTooms
08-06-15, 06:41
The only full service massage place on SOI 8 that I am aware of is Bamboo, which on a small alley directly off Soi 8. There are several massage places at the beginning of Soi 8 but all offer straight massages with no full service or even he.The only massage shop on Soi 8 that I have not tried over the past year or so is the first one on the right at the corner where you turn to go to Bamboo Massage. Don't remember the name of it. Happy Foot or something like that. But in each one of the other massage shops on both sides of Soi 8 all the way down the Soi until you get to Monsoon restaurant, I have been offered my choice of either handjob or blowjob happy ending.

Goatscrot
08-06-15, 07:54
My bar girl N from Crazy House likes Koreans (handsome, small dick and quick fuck) My Thai girl N doesn't like Farangs much.Interesting because most of the gals I know in the oilies don't like the Koreans so much, mainly because they are sullen and unresponsive. A couple of gals have told me they have Korean customers who will not say a word during a session. Also, many smoke and are not the most hygienic of dudes.

Syzygies
08-06-15, 13:22
Interesting because most of the gals I know in the oilies don't like the Koreans so much, mainly because they are sullen and unresponsive. A couple of gals have told me they have Korean customers who will not say a word during a session. Also, many smoke and are not the most hygienic of dudes.Interesting the variety in generalisation. Some girls like Farangs and not Koreans. The class of Koreans she meets in the bar may be very different to those in a PSE shop. I am sure she would avoid any that don't appeal to her. Girls in Oily can't escape so easily.

Of course Koreans may not say much. They may not be able to speak the language or even English. I can joke around with any Thai girl since I speak Thai. If the girl talks too much I try to get a dick in her mouth. LOL

I believe the Thai girl I refer to has a little Korean and may be even studying it just a little. She tells me the Koreans dress very well and its the Japanese that tend to smell bad (from Smoking, beer, strong fish or onions - her ideas), not so much the Koreans, who are better. Gross generalisations of course based on just a girl's opinions. I do not know anything much from my own knowledge.

Any girl's views could be overly affected by individuals in too small a sample of course.

Daddy San
08-06-15, 16:56
Hi brothers.

I've been chatting on ThaiFriendly with a girl who works at Kinnaree massage and spa on Suk soi 8. Wondering if it's a legit place or if specials go on there.

Basically want to know if she's a working girl or not.

Cheers.Hi,

Google, your friend, locates Kinnaree at:

Kinnaree Spa & Massage.

8, Sukhumvit Road, Klong Toey, Khet Klong Toey Bangkok, 10110 Thailand.

While this might seem to designate Sukhumvit SOI 8, it is actually 8, SUKHUMVIT and is located adjecent to J. W. Mariott on the west side.

I have never been there, but an ex-TGF went to work there after we split up, after fucking like rabbits all February for 2 years running.

Before I met her, she was definitely not a WG. After we split, well, I don't know.

My guess is, that while Kinnaree caters for the high-end clientele of J. W. Mariott, you can get everything your heart desires, provided you are discreet.

Goatscrot
08-06-15, 17:34
Any girl's views could be overly affected by individuals in too small a sample of course.Such true words there Syz. Most have such little experience outside of the Johns they service.

Sunlover2
08-06-15, 22:39
I'm coming to Thailand in a month (after a 30 year hiatus). My last day, my flight leaves at midnight. So I'm asking for ideas as to what to do that last day.

If it were you, what would you do?Many hotels will charge you a 'day room' rate (50% of the nightly rate) and allow you to check out at 8 pm. My regular hotel offers this option and I normally take it. I can spend the day relaxing by the pool (or mongering) and then freshen up before heading to the airport. You should ask about it where you are staying. Especially in low season it should be possible.

You can also consider going to a mall (see a movie and get something to eat) which would kill around 4 hours in aircon comfort. Add in a 2 hour happy happy massage and you are pretty much set.

SunLover.

Tomasb
08-07-15, 01:36
Google, your friend, locates Kinnaree at:

Kinnaree Spa & Massage.

8, Sukhumvit Road, Klong Toey, Khet Klong Toey Bangkok, 10110 Thailand.

While this might seem to designate Sukhumvit SOI 8, it is actually 8, SUKHUMVIT and is located adjecent to J. W. Mariott on the west side.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew that I had seen the name somewhere. As it turns out, I used to walk by that massage place frequently, which is why the name was familiar. The massage ladies always made a point to beckon me inside but I. Never used the place. The gals seemed a bit older but I imagine that for the right tip anything is possible.

BKKguru
08-07-15, 04:49
Kinnaree Massage actually faces Sukhumvit. If you walk past Nana Plaza, make a left at the 4 way intersection with Sukhumvit. Walk past the gas station and Chemist shop and Kinnaree will be on your left.

I have been to Kinnaree. The ladies working there start very high for a Happy ending - 2500 to 3000 Baht. If you are good at bargaining, they will come down.
But be warned they get clients from JW Marriott who pay 2000+ Baht for a Happy ending (on top of the 700 or 800 Baht for the actual massage).

I never went back to Kinnaree again.

~BKKguru.


Google, your friend, locates Kinnaree at:

Kinnaree Spa & Massage.

8, Sukhumvit Road, Klong Toey, Khet Klong Toey Bangkok, 10110 Thailand.

While this might seem to designate Sukhumvit SOI 8, it is actually 8, SUKHUMVIT and is located adjecent to J. W. Mariott on the west side.

Thanks for the clarification. I knew that I had seen the name somewhere. As it turns out, I used to walk by that massage place frequently, which is why the name was familiar. The massage ladies always made a point to beckon me inside but I. Never used the place. The gals seemed a bit older but I imagine that for the right tip anything is possible.

Kuratla
08-07-15, 10:04
That's all for the replies and PMs.

Said girl told me that HJs are available at the shop but not full sex. She is open to coming to my room though.

I'm not looking to pay cash for sex from girls on Thaifriendly though. Dinner or transportation, sure, but not straight forward prostitution. So many other places to get that and quality is pretty much guaranteed. Not so with the random girl from TF.

That site is bloody weird. Get the occasional message asked me to meet up and fuck them. No strings attached. Listening to my dick, I follow through and, sure enough, she's just looking for dick for the night. Can't argue with that.

OldPhart
08-08-15, 00:59
My senile eyes have just noticed that Belle has left Cherry.

I'll be back in Bangkok in a week, and I'm really torn about where to go for my next indiscretion. Mango has a lot of new girls on the site, as does Honey Bee. Analisa's Sensual Massage on Udomsuk looks intriguing. May / Momay of Cherry is now at Bongkot? I'm ready to buy an Ouija board to decide for me.

But, if Belle is still to be found, I think that would be a good choice. Is she at another shop?

I have limited time and a limited budget and a watchful spouse all conspiring against me. Any intel would be most welcome.

Syzygies
08-08-15, 12:31
Snow White has a new girl, just 4 days. Emy frim Khon Kaen. One of the few slim girls. Body wise she can replace June. Similar height and similar body. Slightly more curvy. Acups almost Bcups. Thigh slightly bigger and very nice ass. No baby no sag anywhere. White skin. Face is different to June. Brown hair. Has nose job but did not bother me too much.

Inexperienced but responded very well to my coaching to go slower. Was enjoying her a lot in the shower sliding on each other and tongue kissing.

Her body is definiey superior and pussy nicely padded and can take deep dick. She responded well to DATY and I would describe her as a horny girl if chemistry is good.

Cowgirl first and fuckrd very enthisiastically making a great GFE performance.

A good choice for guys looking for a sweet GFE. Says she has never been fucked in the ass as yet.

June was my regular girl. Emy can be the replacement, not yet skilled like June but good attitude with a guy if you are nice.

Syzygies
08-08-15, 14:25
Missing data about Emmy. Sure I don't know how to spell it, perhaps double M is better. No idea if she can massage at all. Guys should be ashamed of themselves if they choose SW for a great massage. This is a sex shop. Merely a question of which girls are PSE with A+ and which are not. She says she has a little English. I did not test her English conversation ability at all.

Traveler1234
08-08-15, 15:51
Snow White has a new girl, just 4 days. Emy frim Khon Kaen.Too bad the earlier Emmy left the business and SW. Prior Emmy was a lotta of fun and great in bed.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 04:07
I tried a new girl at Annies. Just 4 days. I tried Emmy at SW just there 4 days. This was totally coincidence. They both told me 4 days. Neither smoke. Both slim bodies, Emmy has the better body. Both enjoyable fucks for me.

Canyon
08-09-15, 05:33
I just finished a five-day trip to Bangkok, and overall it was enjoyable. I had dinner one night with Syzgies, and he looks in pretty good shape, except that he's having trouble with his significant partner (maybe ex? I guess that's why he's visiting all these places as per his reports. However, he did not tell me about Emmy at Snow White. Unfortunately, I did not find anybody I liked at SW. Faces were either plain or the bodies were a little pudgy. In fact, I visited 7 or 8 oilies in the Soi 24-26 neighborhood, and I didn't even find one. It seems as if the quality at the oilies has gone down quite a bit.

I decided to go upscale in search of better lookers. I found a good one at Spasso's in the Hyatt and I took her back to the hotel for a great two hours. Cost was 6,000 baht. I know some ISGers will complain that I paid too much, but I would rather pay up for good quality. In any case, 6,000 be is only $200 US, which is pretty modest. The next night I thought about going back to Pegasus for another upscale treat. However, the last time I was there, the service was terrible when I brought the girl back to the hotel. She was very pretty, but did not perform. In previous years, I had great service from Maya at Pegasus, but she no longer works there.

Instead of Pegasus, my next move was to go to La Belle, a soapy on Petchaburi. It's very upscale, and I can always find a stunner. With me, LaBelle has an unbroken track record of great service (unlike Pegasus). Although LaBelle is a little expensive, the quality is worth it. I picked S-46, Beu (as in beautiful) and she was great. She speaks excellent English and has a great body. She was a lot of fun and service was top-notch. The cost of S girls is only 3,800 baht, but service was so good that I gave her an extra 1,000. I went with her a second time, and the service was even better. She will be leaving in October to start an ice cream shop (Miss Snowy), so if you want to visit her, you should go now.

For my money, the most beautiful one at LaBelle is the-38, Nadea, who is really a stunner. Quite often, the stunners are somewhat arrogant, but Nadea was not. She was great fun and the service was awesome. She's highly recommended. The-models go for 6,000 baht and I gave her a 1,000 baht tip.

In addition to the high-end ones at Spasso's and LaBelle, I picked up a couple walking through Soi Cowboy. Service was great and the price was only 2,900 including barfine, tip and takeout. Except for a brief stop with Syzgies, I did not go into the Cowboy bars, since the music is too loud for me. I had to apologize to Syzgies for leaving early from Crazy House. I just pick them up on the street and the results were fine. However, I must say that I prefer the upscale girls and the extra charge is well worth it for me. It was good value for the better experience.

Best wishes to Syzgies.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 06:10
Instead of Pegasus, my next move was to go to La Belle, a soapy on Petchaburi. It's very upscale, and I can always find a stunner. With me, LaBelle has an unbroken track record of great service (unlike Pegasus). Although LaBelle is a little expensive, the quality is worth it. I picked S-46, Beu (as in beautiful) and she was great. She speaks excellent English and has a great body. She was a lot of fun and service was top-notch. The cost of S girls is only 3,800 baht, but service was so good that I gave her an extra 1,000. I went with her a second time, and the service was even better. She will be leaving in October to start an ice cream shop (Miss Snowy), so if you want to visit her, you should go now.

For my money, the most beautiful one at LaBelle is the-38, Nadea, who is really a stunner. Quite often, the stunners are somewhat arrogant, but Nadea was not. She was great fun and the service was awesome. She's highly recommended. The-models go for 6,000 baht and I gave her a 1,000 baht tip.

Best wishes to Syzgies.Well sorry I did not know Emmy at the time. Can you give a little more detail about the girls, Fake noses? Silicones? Small narrow face or round face? Hook nose or upturned? Waist size? Slim or thick legs, etc. ? Tits high or saggy? Need to know more to decide if worth taking a look at these girls. As you know I am often a little allergic to excessive nose jobs or excessive boob jobs.

I have mostly failed to find a nice natural beauty at La Belle that also performs. So many were too tense / stressed. I do know one papasan Oscar there, I could phone and ask him. Unfortunately his taste is very different to mine. Ones he finds stunning, I find to be of no interest.

Gardelito
08-09-15, 06:58
I'll be in Bangkok later this week. Any recommendations on the best soapies to visit during the afternoon? I hear that 6-7 pm is the best time to arrive for the most selection, but I'd like to get some action during the afternoon as well if there are some good options available. Will be happy to share reviews after.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 09:43
Some guys complain when they email a place to make a booking and get no reply. I laugh because I know how hopeless is the reception at many MPs and especially if the normal person is away on holidays or sick.

I hate to ring the receptions as well. Mango has a bad line. Hard to hear. Much easier to just contact the girl direct. EZ had an annoying male receptionist in the past. I could not understand his English. It was bad and leads to misunderstanding. He refused to speak Thai mostly.

Today I called Snow White at 12.2 reasons. To check new Emmy was working and to make sure she would be available at 12.30. When I get there thet tell. Me she will start at 13.30. Typical crap reception spoils business. It was not the ladyboy receptionist who is probably better. Bad luck for the girl.

Ended up having a look at other shops. Can Cam in Soi24/1 had a very cute girl outside. I would not have gone inside looking since I never heard of this shop.

Male recptionist was Japanese, but he had some English. Ha Ha. I asked the girl if was scared of Farangs. She have a big grin and said no. Turns out her skin shade is slightly too dark to be Spec for asian guys, however her face was light maybe good makeup, and extremely cute. I could see she had sillies, but body was generally good, so decided to put up with sillies. Name was May. No numbers for girls. Upturned nose, narrow face, big black eyebrows. Small waist, no sag anywhere or mybe slight ass sag but not noticable.

Room was very nice standard. Would shit on SW rooms for elegance and size. They even had a big blowup mattress for the massage but no Nuru. Oil or Gel. May got undressed. Had a bit or Bush for those who don't like shaved, but trimmed short. No special action in the bath. She said she liked big dick. I hardly ever hear that so was encouraged.

On mattress she gave a very nice massage lightly. I asked her to swith to body to body with lots of gel and use her big tits enhanced and cute ass. She did well sliding on me. Her pussy felt very soft sliding on me too. At one point my dick accidently slid straight into her pussy maybe 2 inches. We both pretended nothing happened. She had kissed reluctantly at first but was now starting to open mouth a little and give a little tongue.

In the bed she was not scared. Into it big time. Selected position ith my legs on the outside to get maximum action on her pussy. She was looking for an orgasm and did indeed get there. She then suggested we could cum together when I am ready if possible. Her kissing had improved by now. Licking her tongue was allowed.

I just remebered that we had so much fun in the sliding part with her tits on my balls, that I forgot to ask for a BBBJ. Only did a short DATY.

Her pussy was perfection for me. Could take it all. Maybe not the tighest girl around.

Has a regular office job in marketing so only works Saturday, Sunday, and sometimes Friday. Is saving up for a holiday to Australia where she has a friend. No smoking.

Despite the enhancements, I found her exceptional looking and a lot of fun. Good enough GFE. Definite repeat. Gave me her Line ID to help stay in contact.

Not many girls on this Soi with a face so cute to my taste. Short slim girl. Nice ass.

Prices a bit higher than SW but room quite big. Stay in other shops for PSE I guess. I nay have got big room because I asked for room with Jacuzzi instead of shower. Costs more.

Have been lucky last few days. No crap sessions. No dick scared girls. My luck must have turned. LOL Last few girls have been over 25. This seems to help. However May looked about 21.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 10:35
Today I called Snow White at 12.2 reasons. To check new Emmy was working and to make sure she would be available at 12.30. When I get there thet tell. Me she will start at 13.30. Typical crap reception spoils business. It was not the ladyboy receptionist who is probably better. Bad luck for the girl.
That was supposed to read "Called at 12 midday. Two reasons. " Typing on phone is not easy for me.

Feel sorry for Emmy. New girl. I was only her third customer yesterday. She could use the money I am sure, but missed a booking with me today, purely because Reception stuffed up and should have told me she was not yet at work. I could have made the trip there an hour or two later no problem. I speak Thai well so no misunderstanding. They just did not know and did not care to check first.

Gave me a chance to meet another girl and collect another new favourite. I have been in new favourite collection mode now due to problems with girlfriend and due to most of my old favourites having disappeared, retired, or not available. One such girl had me so hooked, I could think of other girls only when she was not available. Went on a holiday with her and was blissful. She had the warmth and personality that my GF was missing. Had to think about getting serious, but some other very special rich guy won the contenders battle. She had several BFs I am sure. She merely had to choose the best guy. I probably came in second due to less rich and having a girlfriend already, and being a bit too old. She didn't tell me what my "on bed" score was, but I know that mattered to her. She likes good sex. I know my DATY is very good but other aspects ay be just ordinary. Girls don't tell us much about our performance. She is hard to replace.

For every report on a girl here, would be great if the girl had the right of reply, and could rate the customer from a number of aspects, looks, figure, performance, relaxed or stressed, humble or arrogant, nice or prickly, able to turn her on or not, fucked too short or too long, generous or stingy, etc. Would be fun I reckon, especially if the girls could be really honest, rather than overly diplomatic or overly revenge oriented. Obviously many guys would be scoring badly in some aspects. LOL. Pity those that score badly for everything.

I think I have enough experience to be able to tell mostly when inexperienced girls are really into it and want to cum or not. For very experienced girls, its more difficult, since they can become great actresses. The best actress of all would need to be inconsistent, sometimes reaching orgasm more quickly, and sometimes with much more difficulty. I believe not many are good enough to show the levels of inconsistency they come with reality, rather than acting. So I tend to believe girls that are inconsistent, like sometimes having an orgasm and sometimes clearly not quite getting there. If girl is exactly the same every time, chances are she is putting on an act, or maybe (unlikely in this business) just very sensitive indeed.

Sorry for my rambling about things I think about in a session, like is the girl very real, or just acting. Obvious acting with too much moaning and ooh-aahing doesn't work for me. It needs to feel very real, to be too my liking. I like girls who seem to be able to have fun. I know others just don't care. A very clinical performer never seems to interest me for any great length of time, even if she has superior skills. Its not just about being serviced for me. I prefer a two-way interaction, even though I pay. That is why I go to a BJ joint so rarely. I normally want to be more involved in the action. Would rather fuck the girl, and have been known to forget about getting a BJ.

Some girls can pull off a bit of over the top acting as a sort of satirical comedy act, where we both get a laugh out of it. It's sort of like she is showing her act she uses for the dumb accepting customers that don't turn her on, and knows very well its too exaggerated. She would only do it for a short time as a joke, then switch to more honest mode, and try to get herself off for real.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 11:08
http://www.gdiary.com/traditional-massage/can-cam-massage

Unfortunately May isn't listed. Probably a newer girl. Looks slightly like Ferm (but isn't Ferm), but has darker hair, whiter face, cuter nose, and a bit older. I went with Pupe once when she worked at Boss. Cute little thing. However not good enough to repeat. May have been dick scared.

https://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://cancam-massage.com/system/&prev=search

In this website, May is listed but no pic. Momo looks really good too if she still works there. Is this a Momo I have seen mentioned before? perhaps not since, a thread search seems to indicate Momo is a massage shop on Thonglor area with girls whose pics look less exciting than this girl Momo to me. If only her D cups may be real??? (I guess that is hoping for too much LOL).

Syzygies
08-09-15, 12:07
http://thai-nl.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=79&page=1 This website shows pics of girls over many pages. Not more than 20% look moderately attractive to me. In fact I exaggerate. Only 3 of the girls pictured looked really good for me. Mint, Nan, and Z? Canyon's Nadea was not shown. Girl I used to like Jip also not shown.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 12:13
Canyon,

I found pics of two girls at la Belle called Bew (sounds like Bear-oo with a rising tone). Are either of these S-46 that you sessioned? For the first one, don't like the nose job at all. 2nd one looks O.K. for me. Not stunning but well above average. Rather cute perhaps.

Syzygies
08-09-15, 12:52
Canyon,

Found this pic of a Nadia who happens to live very close to La Belle according to web site. Could not be your Nadia by coincidence? Is your Nadia this hot? My La Belle Papasan Oscar tells me Nadea is natural and big tits.

I am puzzled. I must have weird taste that I find so few of the La Belle models to be really pretty. Fake looks just don't work well for me, generally, and some of the girls look so ordinary to me.

TempStories
08-09-15, 15:57
Mango site has recently added new girls. Has anyone tried them?

Syzygies
08-09-15, 19:33
Went to La Belle to see how good is Nadea? Etc. They said tomorrow. Decided that G10 was actually quite cute. G is for Gold class. Have Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond. Farang dick surcharge is 1 k. This makes the place rather too expensive.

G10 is Aom. Sounds like Oarm. When she gets undressed I see I got lucky. Although 25 looks like 19 in body and face. Nice upturned nose. Big eyes. Generous A cups and slim. No sag whatso ever. No fat. Nice BBBJ in bath with tots brushing on the balls.

On the bed a very sensitive girl. DATY got her to cum on no more than 3 minutes. She likes dick a lot. Possibly had a 2nd orgasm. I finished in Doggy position after a few other positions. She went with it well. Gave excellent tongue kissing whenever I wanted it.

My first really good La Belle girl within several tries. Definite for repeat. Sometimes its just luck. Highly recommended but too expensive for Farangs with surcharge.

On way out get into lift. Also very short Indian guy gets in with us and my girl 155 cm in heels is taller than him. His girl in heels is almost as tall as me. 184 cm. Makes a funny contrast.

Member #4698
08-09-15, 21:10
La Belle is my favourite soapy. The last couple of years I have been taking model sideline girls. I never plan it that way. I just pick the most attractive girl I see. Model girls sure are expensive, but I have been very happy with the quality of the girls and they have provided some really excellent, almost Rio Macau style, sauna service. I hate the Farang tax. I think it is designed to keep the riff raff away. But other than having to pay the surcharge I have detected no other discriminatory anti-Farang attitude from management or the girls. Everybody always treats me very well.

All that said, I was a little disappointed on my 1st visit back to La Belle this March. I arrived at around 7 pm and there were less than 10 girls in the fishbowl and no sideline girls. I ordered a beer and sipped it slowly for 30 minutes waiting for the talent to arrive. When none appeared I left La Belle and took a taxi over to Nataree which was bursting at the seams with activity and a ton of girls and customers. I know it is like comparing apples and oranges, but the difference in the level of commerce going on at Nataree compared to lack of commerce at La Belle that night was extraordinary.

About a week later I tried La Belle again, this time at around 8 pm. The selection was better, although less in numbers than what I am used to seeing on prior visits. I picked a beautiful sideline girl from Chiang Mai. She was one of 4 side liners and she made me happy. I particularly liked the prolonged 69 we engaged in and shagging a top quality 25 year old Thai women as opposed to the young girls at Nataree. I like young Thai girls too, but just saying, I liked my almost elegant La Belle model. She was a different class of girl.

Incidentally, I also stopped by Utopia one night at around 8 pm. The lineup was even worse than what I witnessed at La Belle the 1st night. There were 3 fishbowl girls and 1 sideline girl, total. I spoke to a young host about the lack of girls and he explained that there were many girls in the building, but they were all entertaining customers. I found that explanatin a little hard to believe. Anyway, one of the fishbowl girls was going to enormous lengths to get my attention. She had a nice face, but was a little bit on the pudgy side. I never take pudgy girls, but the host explained that she loved Americans so rather than leaving I decided to take one for the team. Ha Ha. It turned out to be a good gamble on my part because my girl turned out to be a real trooper from the moment she lead me to a room and I had a fun time with her. It just goes to show, you never know what can happen with a girl until you give her a try. Enthusiasm can make up for a lot.

But the point I am trying to make here is how unusually disappointing the lineups were at both La Belle and Utopia. I had never witnessed such a low turnout before in either establishment and especially compared to all the business and excitement Nataree was generating everytime I went over there. As a consequence I began to wonder if this was a sign that La Belle and Utopia are having tough times and finding it difficult to stay in business.

I am glad to read your two positive experiences, Syzygies and Canyon. I would hate to see La Belle go downhill. I have had some great times there. I can't wait to go back. My fingers are crossed.

Syzygies
08-10-15, 04:02
Natty,

Which are sideline girls? Those sitting near the bar?

You don't ID the girl. Makes report less useful. I was once a Utopia customer. I had one particular very enthusiastic and hot girl there. Utopia was in its heyday and had good business specially Friday and Saturday nights.

My girl put on weight and her service declined. She went through a few Boyfriends went to Chiang Mai fir a period. She wasn't wanting to cum any more. She always had a princess like attitude meaning she felt she was a princess.

With this decline, there was also the Utopia decline. Not many of the girls were really pretty for me. Too much fake stuff. Business kept going downhill. Similar to CP2, which was my top soapy for many years till it went into decline. I stopped going there about 10 years ago. The arrival of Taksin caused a sweep out of the girls not Thai citizens and also the girls too young.

At La Belle since its opening, I had my favourite Jip who I knew from elsewhere. Over years she became more expensive, she put on weight, and service declined. In the end stopped contacting her. Meanwhile almost every other La Belle girl I tried was disappointing either for figure hidden by outfit or for service. Dick scared girls was a common problem that I experience often in Thai or Asian oriented soapies. Thais are smaller and that is what girls get used to. No anacondas thankyou.

Girls in CP2 were used to Farangs years ago. Did not have DS problems there.

Many soapies have gone downhill. Emannuelle line up is well down from what they had a few years ago.

Nataree is one of the few not on decline. Amsterdam seems reasonably steady but line up is not huge. Have not ventured out to Tarawadee for a few years. La Defense had some pretty girls but mostly DS and hard to get great service for me.

I have been getting so lucky with service in a number of miscellaneous venues recently. Mostly my visits to Nataree in the past were unlucky. Managed to get mostly hopeless inexperienced girls. Its clearly the right hunting ground for others but I am far better of with girls aged 25 to 35. No "teens" please.

I have to admit one enthusiastic power fucker at Crazy House is only 21 but this is an exception. I am usually less lucky with overly young girls.

Turgid
08-10-15, 04:05
... Anyway, one of the fishbowl girls was going to enormous lengths to get my attention...My experience in Thailand is that this is a guaranteed sign of a great shag unlike some other countries where she may just be desperate for money and may not give good service. Just my experience.

Syzygies
08-10-15, 04:29
My experience in Thailand is that this is a guaranteed sign of a great shag unlike some other countries where she may just be desperate for money and may not give good service. Just my experience.Ha ha. It's not going to suck me in. She has to have the look I am looking for. Can't pay big money for looks I don't like or body that will not do it for me.

Canyon
08-10-15, 07:02
Syzgies,

That's Nadia. I think she's beautiful.

Canyon.


Canyon,

Found this pic of a Nadia who happens to live very close to La Belle according to web site. Could not be your Nadia by coincidence? Is your Nadia this hot? My La Belle Papasan Oscar tells me Nadea is natural and big tits.

I am puzzled. I must have weird taste that I find so few of the La Belle models to be really pretty. Fake looks just don't work well for me, generally, and some of the girls look so ordinary to me.

Canyon
08-10-15, 07:05
Syzgies,

The second one is Beu, but she's better looking in person than in the photo.

Canyon.


Canyon,

I found pics of two girls at la Belle called Bew (sounds like Bear-oo with a rising tone). Are either of these S-46 that you sessioned? For the first one, don't like the nose job at all. 2nd one looks O.K. for me. Not stunning but well above average. Rather cute perhaps.

LA Guy 5
08-10-15, 07:15
I've noticed discussion of some of the soapies that have a farang surcharge. For better or worse I stay away from these, which may be unfortunate given at least some of the good reports about some of them.

My question is other than Nataree, are there any soapies in that area of town that do not have a farang surcharge and are possibly worth visiting? And although I am not comfortable with even a 500 baht surcharge, I suppose it is better than a 1,000 baht surcharge. So, are there any, again in that area of Bangkok, where the surcharge is 500 baht rather than 1,000 or more?

Canyon
08-10-15, 07:16
LaBelle is my favorite and I can always find at least one to my liking. Service has always been good for me at LaBelle. I like LaBelle much better than Nataree. Although Nataree has lots of cute, young, girls, I have found the performance to be mostly disappointing. Also, I don't like the facilities at Nataree which are run-down. This detracts from the overall experience.

I agree with Natty that a girl who looks at you enthusiastically will probably give good service. While Syzgies has a point that you still have to like the looks, I think Syzgies misses the point that an enthusiastic greeting from the fishbowl will probably mean good service.

Natty, It was good to see your posts again. Try Nadia (D-38) and Beu (S-46) the next time you're in Bangkok. I think you'll like the looks and service at LaBelle. If you don't find anyone you like, ask Oscar to book Nadia or Beu for you.

Canyon.

Syzygies
08-10-15, 11:10
Syzgies,

That's Nadia. I think she's beautiful.

Canyon.In that case its a bit of a fluke I found that pic. Looks amazing in that pic.

Here is something more puzzling. Gulfcruise later posted on the Escorts thread this link.

Please look at:

http://www.luxuryhotgirl.com/index.php/sanya

Are the 4 pics all of Nadia or perhaps of two different girls? One pic is the same pic I posted previously as Nadia. Puzzles me. Gulfcruise said that Sanya in this escort site had very saggy tits.

I attach a pic of Sanya from that website. To me Sanya in black does not look so beautiful as Nadia in blue, specially the nose job. I don't believe Sanya and Nadia can be the same girl.

Syzygies
08-10-15, 11:22
I agree with Natty that a girl who looks at you enthusiastically will probably give good service. While Syzgies has a point that you still have to like the looks, I think Syzgies misses the point that an enthusiastic greeting from the fishbowl will probably mean good service.
It seems everyone is agreed, except for sceptical me. I think is clear the girl is very enthusiastic to get your money and clearly wants a session. I don't see it as a guarantee that session will be good. Could be she is just thinking of the cash. I see some positives. It probably means she does not hate Farangs at first sight.

I have had fantastic girls with nice big tits, who had style, talked well, fun in the bath, everything was good, right up till it came time to fuck and then suddenly she changed to a girl who did not want it. LOL This is the Dick Scared syndrome I guess.

Some shy disinterested girls turned into a Tiger on the bed, so I don't like to discount the shy ones. I think it stands to reason that a girl in right mood will tend to look prettier though.

If a girl pays little attention to me, I generally ask the cheer person to ask her if she likes Farangs. Usually I am the only Farang there. If that gets a favourable reaction, then I am happy enough.

Canyon
08-10-15, 11:25
Syzgies,

I don't recognize the three girls in black. The one in blue looks like Nadia. How did you find the photo? It doesn't have her name and it's not linked to LaBelle. Why did you ask me if that is Nadia?

Canyon.


In that case its a bit of a fluke I found that pic.

Here is something more puzzling. Gulfcruise later posted on the Escorts thread this link.

Please look at:

http://www.luxuryhotgirl.com/index.php/sanya

Are the 4 pics all of Nadia or perhaps of two different girls? One pic is the same pic I posted previously as Nadia. Puzzles me. Gulfcruise said that Sanya in this escort site had very saggy tits.

I attach a pic of Sanya from that website. To me Sanya in black does not so beautiful as Nadia in blue.

Syzygies
08-10-15, 11:33
Syzgies,

I don't recognize the three girls in black. The one in blue looks like Nadia. How did you find the photo? It doesn't have her name and it's not linked to LaBelle. Why did you ask me if that is Nadia?

Canyon.On that website all 4 pics are supposed to be Sanya, but clearly the one in blue is not. I found Nadia on a different website with a simple google web search. It had a little map with a pointer to a spot just on other side of the Khlong from La Belle.

As it had a phone number and email on it, I won't publish. I can send you a PM.

Anyway it seems may be possible to meet Nadia for escort/outcall cheaper than La Belle price. I will try at la Belle first if get a chance. I can ring to book her. I agree she is stunning and the type we both go for, based on past experience (not so skinny category). LOL

Canyon
08-10-15, 11:40
Syzgies,

I doubt if Nadia put that picture up. I think Sanya or her agent grabbed the photo from the Internet and posted it.

Canyon.


On that website all 4 pics are supposed to be Sanya, but clearly the one in blue is not. I found Nadia on a different website with a simple google web search. It had a little map with a pointer to a spot just on other side of the Khlong from La Belle.

As it had a phone number and email on it, I won't publish. I can send you a PM.

Anyway it seems may be possible to meet Nadia for escort/outcall cheaper than La Belle price.

Syzygies
08-10-15, 11:44
Syzgies,

I doubt if Nadia put that picture up. I think Sanya or her agent grabbed the photo from the Internet and posted it.

Canyon.Yes the escort web sites can't be trusted. There is a lot of "bait and switch" going on. Better to meet her at La Belle first, and check what is really going on.

Syzygies
08-11-15, 18:19
Speaking of trusting websites.

http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=97

If you view this using Google Chrome to translate to English, you will see it lists all the girl services. Great. It also list which days she will be working and time.

Shows Momo will work today from 12:00. However I ring up and Japanese Papasan says she is not there will probably work from 4 PM. Actually he has no clue. Later calling into the shop other girls told me she collected her stuff to go back to her province (probably for mother's day).

So web site has no clue when girl really works. Some other girls present looked quite like the web pics, e. G. Lek. So that is encouraging. Lek was reasonably pretty should have tried her.

Went into Pink Massage. Their website is very far out of date. There were about 6 to 10 girls at 4 pm. I decided I would like to meet 3 of them based on Photos. Only Cartoon was remotely like her pics. Other two extremely photo-shopped (normal). The stunner Gaew (Geo) is long gone I think.

Went to La Belle in search of 4 girls recommended by others (Canyon and NattyB). None were there and did not show up. Tuesday before a public holiday is not good. Of 25 to 30 girls including about 7 sideliners (who are supposed to be extra beautiful), nothing was to my taste except for a girl or two pre-booked. Was shocked to see an old favourite Jip (once slim and cute with big tits) has a very long nose job. Could not even recognise her. No longer beautiful with the weird nose. Wasn't getting selected by anyone. Another recommended girl I apparently just missed as she had a customer already.

Eventually I found a cute natural slim girl with no nose job and no sillies (very difficult indeed). Name was Op (strange name. Never heard it before). S57 I think. Says that Canyon's Biw (rhymes with Few) S46 is her friend. She even remembered Canyon visiting, as I had told her I was looking for a certain couple of girls recommended by my friend and failed to find them.

My girl Op had very high sort of conical natural tits, slim, cute nose, all real. Cute ass too. Performed very well and put up with me taking a long time. Quite good BBBJ in bath with tits brushing my balls. Very sensitive girl to DATY. I was very happy with her.

Checked the line up again. Nearly all the same girls as before that had no customer when I went upstairs were still sitting there not busy. Even the most of the super star sideliners were still there. My girl from Sunday G10 was absent. Overall pretty crap line up today. Its a bad choice of day. I am sure can be better.

Called in Crazy House about 8 PM. Crap line up also. Sunday was far better. By 9 pm had improved a lot, but still miles behind 3rd of month which is monthly pay day. One girl I like was BFed before 8 PM and other good ones missing. Generally weak day.

GanjaBreed
08-12-15, 09:24
All set for my trip to BKK. Touching down on Sunday and made reservations at Phachara Suites based on recommendations from the forum. Usually stay at Adelphi, but thought to change it up this time.

Will be visiting the some of the oilies as well as hitting up the go-go's and discos. Since I got a nice big room I'll be doing a lot of incalls, more relaxing that way. Lots of new additions in a lot of the shops. Its going to be fun. Read a few reports on Bongkot Massage. Never been there so would like to sample. Any recommendations will be highly appreciated.

Hoping that it will shape up to be a wild and exciting one week. Already looking forward to writing up a few more reports.

Canyon
08-12-15, 10:24
Syzgies:

Your mailbox is full. After looking carefully at the photo, I've concluded that the two Nadeas are not the same. At first, I thought they were the same girl with the picture having been photo-shopped. Upon reflection, I think they are two separate girls, but there is a striking resemblance. In any case, it doesn't matter. Go ahead and try both and let me know what you think.

Canyon.

ThugDada
08-12-15, 12:33
Hi,

Need some help.

How much full service in bongkot? Website show massage price only?http://www.bongkotmassagesoi22.com/index.php?mode=price.

Plus no email to contact. Not in Thai right now. Can't call.

And how many shot if I take 2 hour Thai massage?

Thanks

Syzygies
08-12-15, 12:40
Syzgies:

Your mailbox is full. After looking carefully at the photo, I've concluded that the two Nadeas are not the same. At first, I thought they were the same girl with the picture having been photo-shopped. Upon reflection, I think they are two separate girls, but there is a striking resemblance. In any case, it doesn't matter. Go ahead and try both and let me know what you think.

Canyon.Several girls I would like to try, but they don't show up to La Belle. I don't yet like La Belle at all, but a stunning girl could suddenly change that.

I will probably give up on La Belle eventually unless I can meet one of the stunners, if they have any, most of the cast there have very ugly fake noses. In general, the look, is just not my style. Have met two girls that were quite good, but not really super special. With the Farang surcharge it makes the price a bit high, and wastes too much time looking for a girl there that meets my spec. The 2nd problem being the biggest. Just too low a percentage of girls that interest me, and who knows when they will show up. I can do better between Soi 24 and Soi 26. That area is more convenient for browsing, and I can find the odd pretty face, but if not easier to look elsewhere. Tuesday I possibly arrived a little early had had to wait an hour to choose a girl non-fake, and in the end, she was nice, but still not as pretty as I would like.

I just don't want to make the time for Soapies any more, until I get a special girl that I can phone to book. The La Belle girls try to look a bit Western, but its not working for me. I prefer the real Thai look.

I am happy with Crazy House, because quite a few pretty girls, and I know some that are good fucks. Will keep trying some of the prettier girls I can find. I think I should move to Thonglor area to be closer to action.

To be honest I am getting bored with fucking girls that are not fabulous in one way or another, preferably for face, body, and performance. My big problem is having previously had a regular girl, now retired, that was pretty, and fabulous performer, and having a special spark. Its hard to find the replacement that measures up.

I think you have to visit a Soapy, day in and day out, to really get to see their best lookers. The odd visit my me is not really working. One day, I will try the tactic of getting the papasan to phone me when the super girl shows up.

Would be better if the Soapies had a book of pictures of the girls like Oilies do, and have a schedule showing the girls working today on the website. Thing is most customers will take a girl at a Soapy no matter what, even if she seems very ordinary to me. You have to be lucky to find the very best girls when they have no bookings. I don't know if many girls are really worth 6 K. Escort Nadia looks pretty good and goes for 5 K for 2 hours, I think was 8 K overnight. That could be a better deal for me. I will try to try out some day. I can take an escort if really stunning, however too many seem to be in the less than stunning looks category, and I don't want to pay big money for fake tits or fake noses which seem to dominate.

The really great thing at Crazy House, is I see what I am getting in very fine detail naked, before choosing. Then its only the performance that is not guaranteed. The girl has to have a great face or great body, or nothing doing. I can try pretty girls in Oilies too, since it is far less time and money wasted if she turns out to be crap. If she is not great by the 30 minute mark, I will cancel, and avoid further time wastage. I never take massage before sex, unless its a turn-on type bodyslide.

Jean Sean
08-12-15, 16:17
Hi,

Need some help.

How much full service in bongkot? Website show massage price only?http://www.bongkotmassagesoi22.com/index.php?mode=price.

Plus no email to contact. Not in Thai right now. Can't call.

And how many shot if I take 2 hour Thai massage?

ThanksMy damage was 600+1500 for 90 minute incl. FS and a+ when I was there last month.

So expect it's same level as SW, Mango, Allstars etc.

It's multipop, don't know if we're talking "as many as you manage" or only 2-3 - not relevant for me.

JustTalk979
08-12-15, 19:36
Hi gentlemen,

Just a quick question, I have a strong thing for sexy legs and feet.

Which girls would you say have the best legs and feet and would welcome some feet fetish?

Mjen1970
08-12-15, 20:44
Hi,

Need some help.

How much full service in bongkot? Website show massage price only?http://www.bongkotmassagesoi22.com/index.php?mode=price.

Plus no email to contact. Not in Thai right now. Can't call.

And how many shot if I take 2 hour Thai massage?

ThanksI was in Bongkot in June. I took Nooknik, she was a little bit chunky but she really worked hard. She was willing to do whatever it took to make me happy, she was particularly good at taking it in the ass. I am heading back to Bangkok in 9 days, The 4 places at the top of my list are mango, snow white, bongkot (for PSE) and Nataree for some eye candy.

TConor
08-13-15, 00:22
I was in Bongkot in June. I took Nooknik, she was a little bit chunky but she really worked hard. She was willing to do whatever it took to make me happy, she was particularly good at taking it in the ass. I am heading back to Bangkok in 9 days, The 4 places at the top of my list are mango, snow white, bongkot (for PSE) and Nataree for some eye candy.Is A+ extra? MSOG ok, too?

TConor
08-13-15, 00:26
Is A+ extra? MSOG ok, too?Is Meji really Fa from snow white?

ThugDada
08-13-15, 01:49
My damage was 600+1500 for 90 minute incl. FS and a+ when I was there last month.

So expect it's same level as SW, Mango, Allstars etc.

It's multipop, don't know if we're talking "as many as you manage" or only 2-3 - not relevant for me..Thanks Jean Sean & Mjen1970 for the reply!

Have 2 question more (sorry, my first time going to BKK).

- can I do multipop in one hour package (bongkot) or in others MP?

- they provide condom if I manage to do 2-3 shot? Or I need to bring own?

- others massage parlor provide multipop besides bongkot?

Thanks

Jean Sean
08-13-15, 06:04
Thanks Jean Sean & Mjen1970 for the reply!

Have 2 question more (sorry, my first time going to BKK).

- can I do multipop in one hour package (bongkot) or in others MP?

- they provide condom if I manage to do 2-3 shot? Or I need to bring own?

- others massage parlor provide multipop besides bongkot?

ThanksI don't know for 60 minutes, but 90 minutes is multipop at least in these oilies (there are people here with much more experience in BKK than myself):

Bongkot, Mango, Snowwhite, Cherry, Candy (at least should be) and a couple more. Just read through the thread, there are recent discussions based on other peoples evidences.

Expect generally + 1500 baht for the "special massage" if not included in the price already. Eg. EZ1-2/ Allstars list the total price (but generally one pop only. Although sometimes you're offered more).

A+ is only "mandatory" at Bongkot, at the other ones you need to check girl by girl if A+ is on the menu.

They have condoms, but always bring your own quality ones as spares, I have never been refused using my own ones, even for A+.

Read through the thread, it's packed with valuable information from generous contributors!

GanjaBreed
08-13-15, 06:12
Thanks Jean Sean & Mjen1970 for the reply!

Have 2 question more (sorry, my first time going to BKK).

- can I do multipop in one hour package (bongkot) or in others MP?

- they provide condom if I manage to do 2-3 shot? Or I need to bring own?

- others massage parlor provide multipop besides bongkot?

ThanksPop as much as you can haha. And they are stocked with rubbers. Tulip, mango, cherry, snow white and bamboo other multi-pop places. But bamboo's site says 500 baht extra for A+, though I didn't pay this the last time I was there. Enjoy your trip. I can't wait to touch down on Sunday myself!

McPaul
08-13-15, 08:44
Hey Gents,

Back in town on a brief overlay before going back home. Been a long time it's great to be back!

Would like to hit Crazy House and a couple others on Cowboy early.

When they open, so I could get semi-sated and have the itch scratched.

Before I meet up with a friend to catch up.

So the main question is -- what's a good (Earliest) time to go catch a majority of the lineup that will be there for the full night?

And / or what time do they actually open the doors?

LA Guy 5
08-13-15, 15:14
Pop as much as you can haha. And they are stocked with rubbers. Tulip, mango, cherry, snow white and bamboo other multi-pop places. But bamboo's site says 500 baht extra for A+, though I didn't pay this the last time I was there. Enjoy your trip. I can't wait to touch down on Sunday myself!Interesting that you did not pay the 500 baht backdoor surcharge in that I (I suspect along with others) don't patronize Bamboo as a sort of protest against the surcharge. Perhaps this is having an effect. Can anyone else who recently frequented Bamboo report whether they were charged the 500 baht surcharge for A level?

ThugDada
08-14-15, 02:26
Pop as much as you can haha. And they are stocked with rubbers. Tulip, mango, cherry, snow white and bamboo other multi-pop places. But bamboo's site says 500 baht extra for A+, though I didn't pay this the last time I was there. Enjoy your trip. I can't wait to touch down on Sunday myself!Thanks bro,

Is A+ is free of charge at other MP? Like Tulip, Mango, Cherry & Snow White?

LA Guy 5
08-14-15, 05:00
Thanks bro,

Is A+ is free of charge at other MP? Like Tulip, Mango, Cherry & Snow White?At the places you mention it is free of charge in that you don't have to pay extra for it, but limited, of course, to those girls who do it (not all girls at these places do).

GanjaBreed
08-14-15, 12:15
Thanks bro,

Is A+ is free of charge at other MP? Like Tulip, Mango, Cherry & Snow White?No problem! Yes, its inclusive at the other places. As already mentioned by LA Guy, not all girls provide A+. You'll have to find out at the shop from the mamasan or take a look through the sites. Have blast!

TempStories
08-15-15, 02:47
I was in Bangkok last week. Went to cherry massage and booked yaya for 1 hour. Costed 1900 bhat. Yaya told me she is 23 years old and sister of BB.

It was a first for me to have fucked 2 sisters, though in separate sessions.

She has a schoolgirl body, not voluptuous but firm. Her blow job was world class. She did whatever I asked her to do. Kept deep throat for 30 seconds without any complaints.

Licked me all over including rimming. I stopped multiple times in between or else would have blown in her mouth. Started fucking her in miss position.

Finally it was time to get into her asshole. It was an amazing experience. Not too tight and perfect fit for me. Banged her in multiple position. At end of 45 min, she wanted to finish it was late in the night.

She got on top, took me in her ass and finally I came.

Total fun. Surely recommended.

WIR. Too many options in Bangkok that it does not make sense to repeat.

GanjaBreed
08-15-15, 03:17
I was in Bongkot in June. I took Nooknik, she was a little bit chunky but she really worked hard. She was willing to do whatever it took to make me happy, she was particularly good at taking it in the ass. I am heading back to Bangkok in 9 days, The 4 places at the top of my list are mango, snow white, bongkot (for PSE) and Nataree for some eye candy.Thanks for the info. Going by the website, she's got the prettiest face and looks very slim! Then again, we go to these places for hardcore action. But a nice face and body never hurts! Will check out Bongkot this weekend.

Crocodilexp
08-15-15, 04:39
Thanks for the info. Going by the website, she's got the prettiest face and looks very slim! Then again, we go to these places for hardcore action. But a nice face and body never hurts! Will check out Bongkot this weekend.Nook has a remarkably pretty face. Unfortunately, her body is flabby and nowhere close to slim, so don't have high expectations in that regard. That said, her sweet attitude and hard work more than makes up for any flaws. She's one of the sweetest girls in any of the oilies, and also up-to-par on the technical PSE side. I'm definitely planning on going with her again.

Manfield04
08-15-15, 06:37
Anna will happily oblige at Mango. I did her two years ago.


Thanks bro. Is A+ is free of charge at other MP? Like Tulip, Mango, Cherry & Snow White?

Manfield04
08-15-15, 06:41
Haven't been to BongKot yet but planning to do so in 3 weeks' time. Any idea about Mony? Her services and what to expect?


Nook has a remarkably pretty face. . . . I'm definitely planning on going with her again.

Sinofaguo
08-15-15, 06:52
Its almost always the same PSE oilies and Nataree which get reported here.

I was wondering if nothing in between could be found so I tried atouchofclassbangkok.com which is right next to the other oilies reported here on Soi 24.

The experience is very different. I felt it was closer to what you get at Nataree but based in sukhumvit and perfect rooms.

The place looks good when you enter, the girls too which made the choice a bit harder (they first give you a book but then showed me the girls live which is much better IMO). They all seem to speak a certain level of English.

The girl I picked was named Cake. I took 90 min nuru and as suggested by the front desk switched to jacuzi room to get bigger size room and bed for nuru. Her English was great.

The room looked brand new everything so shiny, way better than the other oilies and the ran down Nataree.

Cake's face was average OK but her body was OMG perfect.

In a way the experience is pretty close to what you get at Darling (Macau) but adding a nuru after the bath for those who know this place.

Things start in the jaccuzi and then you move on to the bed where Nuru is performed. She doubled checked with me if I really wanted nuru (ohoh. Not a great sign of enjoyment on her sign if she pushes for oil). I simply said "Oil is good but I love nuru and massage and came here for a long lasting one. ". From there she said "OK no problem", and while it might not have been on the top of her preferred list, she performed an awesome nuru for a good 10 min, making perfect use of her be to see tits and bubbly ass. The feeling of those massaging you and OMG seeing her killer body as a whole and her smile at the effect it produces made the whole experience just great. As for the finish line all the conventional options are included (covered by default which I didn't ask otherwise as it is the only way I do it as well).

Face: 7/10

Body: 9,5/10 just not to give her 10.

Skill & Service: 7/10.

Definitely more GFE than PSE (and I wouldn't recommend this place for PSE lovers).

Price & Session Length: 2800 THB for 90 minutes with nuru option and jacuzzi option.

I added 200 THB tips which seemed to surprise her and when I asked why she said tips are not mandatory there and they don't always get them as price is all included. But it felt fair to give her the same smile she left on my face at the end of this session!

WIR: for sure.

BigWorld
08-15-15, 11:25
I was in Bangkok last week. Went to cherry massage and booked yaya for 1 hour. Costed 1900 bhat. Yaya told me she is 23 years old and sister of BB.

It was a first for me to have fucked 2 sisters, though in separate sessions.

She has a schoolgirl body, not voluptuous but firm. Her blow job was world class. She did whatever I asked her to do. Kept deep throat for 30 seconds without any complaints.

Licked me all over including rimming. I stopped multiple times in between or else would have blown in her mouth. Started fucking her in miss position.

Finally it was time to get into her asshole. It was an amazing experience. Not too tight and perfect fit for me. Banged her in multiple position. At end of 45 min, she wanted to finish it was late in the night.

She got on top, took me in her ass and finally I came.

Total fun. Surely recommended.

WIR. Too many options in Bangkok that it does not make sense to repeat.Why you said "I stopped multiple times in between or else would have blown in her mouth". As far I know Cherry is a multipop MP where you can have as many pops as you can. Once I had 4/5 pops in a 2 HR session. He he. So why you bother to stop her. You can easily cum and enjoy dude.

Just curious to ask never mind.

Member #4373
08-15-15, 12:00
Hi guys!

My wife and I are travelling to Thailand this month. We are in a bit kinky mood. Any good places for couples?

A male masseur for her would be better.

TimTimGuy
08-15-15, 12:08
As far I know Cherry is a multipop MP where you can have as many pops as you can. .I read the report as coming from a guy who had one pop left in him. He tells us it was late at night, etc. And he wanted to make it happen the way he wanted it to happen. TTG.

Sunlover2
08-16-15, 01:28
I was in Bangkok last week. Went to cherry massage and booked yaya for 1 hour. Costed 1900 bhat. Yaya told me she is 23 years old and sister of BB.I can confirm YaYa is a good service provider. I had a session with her last year when she was new at Cherry. Good to hear she has not lost her zeal for the job.

SunLover

OldPhart
08-16-15, 03:03
The girl I picked was named Cake. I took 90 min nuru and as suggested by the front desk switched to jacuzi room to get bigger size room and bed for nuru. Her English was great.

Cake's face was average OK but her body was OMG perfect.

Face: 7/10

Body: 9,5/10 just not to give her 10.

Skill & Service: 7/10.

Definitely more GFE than PSE (and I wouldn't recommend this place for PSE lovers).

WIR: for sure.There used to be a girl at Pretty Massage by Thong Lo. Her name was Cake. She fits your description. She did BBBJ, which a lot of the Pretty girls do not do. Mamasan showed me her customer feed back cards. She was the "#1 service provider" and blow job queen.

I opted for the VIP (with bath) room and she was very very nice and it was one pop. I didn't realize that she did not do CIM and that was frustrating when I shot into air. She was willing to go for a second, but a condom was not ready and by the time she got one ready I was flaccid.

She spoke English and was studying Japanese.

When we first got into the tub she said she would take care of me. She did. It was a GFE and the young lady was very nice to the old man.

Lee66
08-16-15, 06:14
Nataree girls seem to need condoms a lot,(especally the sidliners) what about atouchofclassbkk?

Arjun31
08-16-15, 15:32
Hi Guys,

Its been over a year that I visited Bangkok. In all my 3 previous visits never tried any gogo bars. Its always been the soapies, Nuru or Outcalls (only tried 1 pick up). Huge fan of outcalls. LIke the comfort of my hotel room. Tried all the stars who left mostly (Apple, Vodka, Pinky, Candy etc) and a few agencies.

Having done some research in the forum, Thanks to Syzygies, Paul and all the seniors and other members who contributed to the forum. Crazy house seems to be on top of my list, and a couple of escorts from the agencies. Thanks to Gulf. Also would like some suggestions on outcalls from Mango, Cherry, Bamboo etc (The new girls, I have no idea who is good). Probably meet Candy and see how her new shop is running. SHe keeps chatting with me once is a while. She was my first A+ so have that connection.

Would really appreciate if you guys could give me some suggestions on clubs, gogos, complete newbie when it comes to those 2. Will be staying on Soi11.

Thanks guys.

Later.

AR.

TempStories
08-16-15, 16:22
I wanted to try one more girl that night. Went to Hermes and selected a 20 year old. It was fun. Only CBJ and no anal. But tight skin & butt, lack of experience makes it worth it for me. They all.

Start by saying don't bite and all, but once these young ones start fucking, they loose the inhibitions. So that is how my night ended that day. That was the reason I did not want to 2 pops in yaya.


Why you said "I stopped multiple times in between or else would have blown in her mouth". As far I know Cherry is a multipop MP where you can have as many pops as you can. Once I had 4/5 pops in a 2 HR session. He he. So why you bother to stop her. You can easily cum and enjoy dude.

Just curious to ask never mind.

TempStories
08-16-15, 16:26
Went to Cancam reading these reports. Arrived at noon today. Only 3 girls, but liked one of them. Her name is also yaya. She is 23-24 year. Smaller size boobs but firm and large perky nipples.

Her ass is also very firm, stomach is flat (not curvy) and non baby signs. Enjoyed my time with her. Gave her 20-25 minutes of anal pounding as well. She took it sportingly. Finally drained myself in the rubber and said bye to her.

Will surely recommend to ISG brothers.


http://www.gdiary.com/traditional-massage/can-cam-massage

Unfortunately May isn't listed. Probably a newer girl. Looks slightly like Ferm (but isn't Ferm), but has darker hair, whiter face, cuter nose, and a bit older. I went with Pupe once when she worked at Boss. Cute little thing. However not good enough to repeat. May have been dick scared.

https://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://cancam-massage.com/system/&prev=search

In this website, May is listed but no pic. Momo looks really good too if she still works there. Is this a Momo I have seen mentioned before? perhaps not since, a thread search seems to indicate Momo is a massage shop on Thonglor area with girls whose pics look less exciting than this girl Momo to me. If only her D cups may be real??? (I guess that is hoping for too much LOL).

Daddy San
08-16-15, 16:45
Hi guys,

I wonder if some of you in the know can report on mongering opportunities beyond (east of) soi 26.

I keep reading vague, matter of fact mentions of MPs farther up Sukhumvit (and I don't mean Tulip at Thong Lo).

There are 'inhabited' areas around Ekkamai, even Udom Suk, Bang Na and beyond so surely there must must be some places to get 'relief'.

Last year, I had contact with a lady from CraigList, who offered incall somewhere on Soi 101 (which is between Punnawithi and Udom Suk). I didn't partake, but it means that there is a customer base in that area.

Your input would be greatly appreciated.

DS.

Mjen1970
08-16-15, 17:14
Haven't been to BongKot yet but planning to do so in 3 weeks' time. Any idea about Mony? Her services and what to expect?I'm heading to Bangkok next weekend. I've got a mony and cash threesome lined up. I'll feedback how they perform.

Syzygies
08-16-15, 17:14
Hi guys,

I wonder if some of you in the know can report on mongering opportunities beyond (east of) soi 26.

I keep reading vague, matter of fact mentions of MPs farther up Sukhumvit (and I don't mean Tulip at Thong Lo).

There are 'inhabited' areas around Ekkamai, even Udom Suk, Bang Na and beyond so surely there must must be some places to get 'relief'.

Last year, I had contact with a lady from CraigList, who offered incall somewhere on Soi 101 (which is between Punnawithi and Udom Suk). I didn't partake, but it means that there is a customer base in that area.

Your input would be greatly appreciated.

DS.I used to live near there. There are a couple of places in Sukumwit in that area but I never tried them. A bit close to home. There are also many night entertainment venues in Udom Suk. Bangkok Eyes web magazine posted a report on Udom Suk once.

These places would be geared to Thais. I haven't used anything. I am not even game to go in Pimalee Spa with Aroma massage close to home.

Syzygies
08-16-15, 17:22
Went to Cancam reading these reports. Arrived at noon today. Only 3 girls, but liked one of them. Her name is also yaya. She is 23-24 year. Smaller size boobs but firm and large perky nipples.

Her ass is also very firm, stomach is flat (not curvy) and non baby signs. Enjoyed my time with her. Gave her 20-25 minutes of anal pounding as well. She took it sportingly. Finally drained myself in the rubber and said bye to her.

Will surely recommend to ISG brothers.When I attended there were generally abour 5 or 6 girls available. Slower times. Some could have been busy if only 3 available. Generally superior looks. More than one was doable.

Robin1980
08-16-15, 17:27
Names of MPs and pick up points near Bang Na

Syzygies
08-17-15, 01:43
Names of MPs and pick up points near Bang NaMaybe English is not your language. I assume you try to ask a really vague question. Have you ever heard of Google Search?

To spoon feed just a little, Google Search for Bangkok Eyes or for Midnite Hour.

An excellent upate on Nana Plaza bars will come up this month. Click on Archives tab. Then find in the page (text search) articles on entertainment in Udom Suk and Sri Nakarin South. These are a few years old so things may have changed a little bit but shows you where all the entertainment joints mainly for Thais are. I don't know the exact bounds of Bang Na area.

www.Bangkokeyes.com Midnite Hour has lots of good info. Worth taking a look regularly, especially for newbies, but also for old timers like me. Its just facts. No mongering reports.

I like the historical aspects as the reports go back more than 20 years to my early days in Bangkok.

Forever69
08-17-15, 10:04
As the header says, I was trying to find a map like the ones mick licker fashioned of the massage shops on 22 and 24 couldn't find it -any body?

Francesco24
08-17-15, 12:26
I'll start saying she was one of the worst services I have had in Thailand in general and for sure the worst at Mango itself.

Looks: her face looks cute / young, her body is not exactly tight but still acceptable with very small boobs (which I don't dislike at times). So overall was good.

Service: no Kiss (deep or light), no rimming, no anal, no CIM. She spent literally 5 minutes and 10 tissues trying to wipe any wet from my cock before even starting a BBBJ. She finally tried to take it in her mouth, spent few seconds on it and then tissue again. After 2 or 3 times of this bullshit I asked if she preferred to continue the BJ using a condom. After she happily took a condom the most mechanic BJ started (any request to lick on the side was ignored and she kept going up / down as fast as human possible until I stopped her). At this point I tried to move her on the bed and pretended to move my face for DATY (which I had no intention at all, just wanted to see her reaction); of course she reacted by covering her pussy with both hands. Finally fucked her in missionary and doggy. At the end I tried my best to cum and finished in missionary while trying to suck her nipple (which she somehow denied too at this point, while before was OK. Maybe she was thinking I was taking too much time or so). All in all at most 25 minutes on the bed, 10 minutes in the shower / waiting. With about 20 minutes left, no offers for a massage was made and she started showering and then dressing straight away. (again at this point no problem at all, just to give an idea of her attitude).

If for some reason someone not believes me or thinks I may have been rude / bad looking / whatever to cause her behavior. I invite you to go try her and waste your money too: the.

Usually I not fault the Shop if a girl is so bad, and even if Mango is famous for being a PSE shop I not really expect real PSE from young / cute girls (I am OK with no anal, no rimming, no deep throat, no kinky stuff, etc) but at least deep kissing and a semi-decent BBBJ should be expected at Mango. This kind of girl should be working in some of the semi ripoff massage shops along Soi 23 or similar. Not at Mango. For sure she isn't making them any good.

Christian G
08-17-15, 16:46
As the header says, I was trying to find a map like the ones mick licker fashioned of the massage shops on 22 and 24 couldn't find it -any body?Look here: http://bangkokredeye.com/bangkok-oily-massage.html.

Traveler1234
08-17-15, 17:42
As the header says, I was trying to find a map like the ones mick licker

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3017-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-TULIP-ONLY!&p=810246&viewfull=1#post810246

Maybe the author will update it:D

Kuratla
08-17-15, 20:08
I'll start saying she was one of the worst services I have had in Thailand in general and for sure the worst at Mango itself.

Looks: her face looks cute / young, her body is not exactly tight but still acceptable with very small boobs (which I don't dislike at times). So overall was good.

Service: no Kiss (deep or light), no rimming, no anal, no CIM. She spent literally 5 minutes and 10 tissues trying to wipe any wet from my cock before even starting a BBBJ. She finally tried to take it in her mouth, spent few seconds on it and then tissue again. After 2 or 3 times of this bullshit I asked if she preferred to continue the BJ using a condom. After she happily took a condom the most mechanic BJ started (any request to lick on the side was ignored and she kept going up / down as fast as human possible until I stopped her). At this point I tried to move her on the bed and pretended to move my face for DATY (which I had no intention at all, just wanted to see her reaction); of course she reacted by covering her pussy with both hands. Finally fucked her in missionary and doggy. At the end I tried my best to cum and finished in missionary while trying to suck her nipple (which she somehow denied too at this point, while before was OK. Maybe she was thinking I was taking too much time or so). All in all at most 25 minutes on the bed, 10 minutes in the shower / waiting. With about 20 minutes left, no offers for a massage was made and she started showering and then dressing straight away. (again at this point no problem at all, just to give an idea of her attitude).

If for some reason someone not believes me or thinks I may have been rude / bad looking / whatever to cause her behavior. I invite you to go try her and waste your money too: the.

Usually I not fault the Shop if a girl is so bad, and even if Mango is famous for being a PSE shop I not really expect real PSE from young / cute girls (I am OK with no anal, no rimming, no deep throat, no kinky stuff, etc) but at least deep kissing and a semi-decent BBBJ should be expected at Mango. This kind of girl should be working in some of the semi ripoff massage shops along Soi 23 or similar. Not at Mango. For sure she isn't making them any good.Thank you, bro. This is exactly the kind of reports we need to read.

Syzygies
08-18-15, 03:48
As the header says, I was trying to find a map like the ones mick licker fashioned of the massage shops on 22 and 24 couldn't find it -any body?Unfortunately it takes significant time to keep Maps up to date and continuous research. Changes in the massage shops names ans ownership are frequent.

Mick Licker probably has not been mongering in Oilies that frequently and no time to try them all.

With all these new shops becoming popular, like Bamboo, Bongkot, Analisa etc.

There was a Map of Oilies but very out of date and I think it had weak coverage of Soi 22. There are so many massage parlours around. What to include and what to leave out. There are a huge number of shops on Soi 23 and I haven't a single one of them. Of course if I was horny and spotted a stunning girl sittung outsise, I would go for it. This is cause a heavy looks orientation.

Still some use for newbies:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zSwFcBcbnzww.ktUBr9Cd5bKI&hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&ll=13.729943,100.567389&spn=0.014549,0.018775&z=16

Bangkok red eye map of Phrom Pong is more up ro date but rhey did not make it a Google Map possibly for fear of copying and left out Soi 26 I think.

Phrom Pong seems to be considered the main area.

Syzygies
08-18-15, 04:30
Pity about Lek at Mango since she is pretty. However I guess ahw ahould be at a differenr shop if she doesn't want to do Mango Service. I might not try in a hurry after all. Challenge to get her to kiss or DATY moght be too much. I do admit to occasionally fucking beautiful girls regardless of all these weaknesses, but its too much missing for a Mango girl, and hare to repeat a really crap girl. I guess she may not last long being so unsuited or might have to improve. She even be fired if continues to give the shop a bad publicity. Other girls will hate her stealing the customers with looks only and causing customers to get bad feeling about Mango.

Goatscrot
08-18-15, 11:24
I'll start saying she was one of the worst services I have had in Thailand in general and for sure the worst at Mango itself.

Looks: her face looks cute / young, her body is not exactly tight but still acceptable with very small boobs (which I don't dislike at times). So overall was good.

Service: no Kiss (deep or light), no rimming, no anal, no CIM. She spent literally 5 minutes and 10 tissues trying to wipe any wet from my cock before even starting a BBBJ. She finally tried to take it in her mouth, spent few seconds on it and then tissue again. After 2 or 3 times of this bullshit I asked if she preferred to continue the BJ using a condom. After she happily took a condom the most mechanic BJ started (any request to lick on the side was ignored and she kept going up / down as fast as human possible until I stopped her). At this point I tried to move her on the bed and pretended to move my face for DATY (which I had no intention at all, just wanted to see her reaction); of course she reacted by covering her pussy with both hands. Finally fucked her in missionary and doggy. At the end I tried my best to cum and finished in missionary while trying to suck her nipple (which she somehow denied too at this point, while before was OK. Maybe she was thinking I was taking too much time or so). All in all at most 25 minutes on the bed, 10 minutes in the shower / waiting. With about 20 minutes left, no offers for a massage was made and she started showering and then dressing straight away. (again at this point no problem at all, just to give an idea of her attitude).

If for some reason someone not believes me or thinks I may have been rude / bad looking / whatever to cause her behavior. I invite you to go try her and waste your money too: the.

Usually I not fault the Shop if a girl is so bad, and even if Mango is famous for being a PSE shop I not really expect real PSE from young / cute girls (I am OK with no anal, no rimming, no deep throat, no kinky stuff, etc) but at least deep kissing and a semi-decent BBBJ should be expected at Mango. This kind of girl should be working in some of the semi ripoff massage shops along Soi 23 or similar. Not at Mango. For sure she isn't making them any good.It's a shame that the owner lets the girls get away with this kind of service. PSE shops are just that. If I paid 2100 Baht for 90 min of that I would be furious. In fact, I would have gone downstairs after the first few minutes and complained. If a gal is not A+ I get it. Everything else must be on the menu.

This is exactly my point about service in BKK. Paying the same or more and getting less.

Kuratla
08-18-15, 12:04
It's a shame that the owner lets the girls get away with this kind of service. PSE shops are just that. If I paid 2100 Baht for 90 min of that I would be furious. In fact, I would have gone downstairs after the first few minutes and complained. If a gal is not A+ I get it. Everything else must be on the menu.

This is exactly my point about service in BKK. Paying the same or more and getting less.As mongers we need to be firm in our expectations. If the girl's a dud, don't be afraid of a loss of face and request a new girl. Way back when, in Mango's early days, I can't remember which girl I took one day but she was horrible. No kissing, wanted to do a covered BJ, would not let me eat her out. When my dick went soft with a complete lack of interest, I told her I wanted to change ladies.

She was fine with it and brought up a book of pics for me to choose from. I chose Bo and she blew me away. First time with her and she was amazing. Partially because she was a great performer anyway and probably also because a higher expectation was placed on her to perform after the first girl.

Addendum: Actually, now that I think on it, my first time with Nice at Tulip was also mind-blowing because they overbooked and I arrived at the shop for a session with Tuk but she was already with a customer. I was a bit peeved but still stayed and took Nice. She was told to provide me with top service (I overhead Saeng telling her in Thai) and Nice was mind-blowingly good.

Francesco24
08-18-15, 12:10
It's a shame that the owner lets the girls get away with this kind of service. PSE shops are just that. If I paid 2100 Baht for 90 min of that I would be furious. In fact, I would have gone downstairs after the first few minutes and complained. If a gal is not A+ I get it. Everything else must be on the menu.

This is exactly my point about service in BKK. Paying the same or more and getting less.In the end I not even think that Mango / Cherry are really PSE shops anymore. But still I believed them to have at least a minimum standard of service. My mongering budget is really not much at about 3000 baht per week, so usually I try to visit only the few famous shops (Mango, Cherry, Addict, Snow White, Tulip) and nothing else. Even if nowadays it's difficult to find a real PSE from a semi cute girl, usually at least the basic services are available and I never had a really crappy experience before that made me leave angry.

I guess it's not really safe anymore and should ask for available services even at those shops. (especially for really cute girls. Which really have no point for me if they not deep kiss good).

Jimmy Boy 99
08-18-15, 12:58
In the end I not even think that Mango / Cherry are really PSE shops anymore. But still I believed them to have at least a minimum standard of service. My mongering budget is really not much at about 3000 baht per week, so usually I try to visit only the few famous shops (Mango, Cherry, Addict, Snow White, Tulip) and nothing else. Even if nowadays it's difficult to find a real PSE from a semi cute girl, usually at least the basic services are available and I never had a really crappy experience before that made me leave angry.

I guess it's not really safe anymore and should ask for available services even at those shops. (especially for really cute girls. Which really have no point for me if they not deep kiss good).After choosing the girl (and sometimes before), but before going to the room with her, I always discuss with her (and sometimes the mamasan or papasan if her English is poor) what can do during the session so that she knows and agrees to provide what I want.

Crocodilexp
08-18-15, 17:23
After choosing the girl (and sometimes before), but before going to the room with her, I always discuss with her (and sometimes the mamasan or papasan if her English is poor) what can do during the session so that she knows and agrees to provide what I want.Avoiding that discussion is the entire point of a PSE shop. Sure, discuss A+ and any really unusual stuff beforehand, but staples (DFK, decent BBBJ, DATY, even rimming) are standard, or at least that's what those few shops built their reputations on.

Member #4591
08-18-15, 22:58
Nataree girls seem to need condoms a lot,(especally the sidliners) what about atouchofclassbkk?Could you elaborate on condom issues? If you are complaining about condoms during full service, I think that's the norm. If you are talking about during the blow job it's about 50/50.

Margaya
08-19-15, 01:45
Had a chance to try out this new lady from Mango. Chose her from 8/10 girls in evening. Girls were not attractive but not too bad also. Chose her due to ok face and what seemed like more than avg sized boobs. She was shy and straight away proceeded to shower after bringing her kit. No playing around, no kiss, removed clothes and invited me in shower. Started to rub me with soap as soon as I entered the shower stall so I had to ask her if she is new. Yes 1 week. Still I think Mango should train girls better as we expect a lot more their girls. Told her to start with a kiss which she did and session was all right from here onwards. Dark isan body, no kids, good kisser, be cup boobs. A plus. Truly finger right pussy. She worked quite a sweat in women on top position and gladly let me pound her in the ass for several minutes.

So session was above medicine but I expected much much better from Mango. Was told I was first customer she got since starting work 9 hours ago so obviously things are dead slow. Very few punters but then why fly halfway around the world for service that is not out of this world!

OldPhart
08-19-15, 03:28
I did a fashion massage with Nana at Hana.

Hana has very firm natural breasts. She's in the top five of all sets of boobs I've ever squeezed.

She got naked immediately and did a good job in the shower, squatting frequently, and doing the first BBBJ.

Afterwards, she actually gave a massage, and allowed her hands to be guided as well.

I used a toy. She had her own and held it on her clit while I fingered both holes. Shooting her full of lube was not a problem.

Next BBBJ, and when I needed help coming, she took position midway down the bed without hesitation and allowed a forced fellation throat fuck. I pounded hard enough that she was rubbing her nose afterwards. No complaints from her about it.

She gave me every second of the hour, finishing with a real massage.

She has a wonder attitude, nice skill set, is very accommodating, and the only thing I regret is not shaving her. I tipped her 200, putting one note in each bra cup.

I would ask for her again, and show up with a tube of Veet and a better selection of toys. She was tight, so I'll opt for full service. Instincts at this place tell me that some of the girls are PSE.

Dinner at The Office sports bar on Soi 33. Some ladies are available for take out. Our waitress was not, but she had a wonderful personality. I was happy with the burger and my friend referred to the fish & chips as "tasty. ".

Crazy House lived up to expectations. One can take the girls home, of course, so I'll mention it here.

Yes, they are all young, like girls at EZ or All Stars or Nattaree.

Yes, they are pretty much all naked.

The first girl I saw had the most perfect breasts. Even the vaginas on these girls were good lucking. They didn't cover themselves with one hand or avoiid the lights. Some even arched backwards to put their lips on public display. There were no dangling lips. Everything was tight and minimal, like they were all factory fresh. It was absolutly unreal. My monger friend bought one drinks. Totally nude beside him and groping was okay.

These girls not only looked young, some of them acted young. I don't know who recruits for this place, but he / she has done well.

Upstairs at Dollhouse was closed. Lone Star had cosplay dancers and they got naked, but they were not in Crazy's league.

Soi Cowboy was some real lookers for welcome girls, but aside from Crazy House, things were rather dead in the bars. I'm not surprised. How can one compete with perfection?

Syzygies
08-19-15, 07:09
These girls not only looked young, some of them acted young. I don't know who recruits for this place, but he / she has done well.

Upstairs at Dollhouse was closed. Lone Star had cosplay dancers and they got naked, but they were not in Crazy's league.

Soi Cowboy was some real lookers for welcome girls, but aside from Crazy House, things were rather dead in the bars. I'm not surprised. How can one compete with perfection?When Crazy House first opened, they had a relatively small number of girls but all were very superior looking. I believe their approach was to pay higher monthly salaries. They must have rejected many girls in the early days.

Of course when you have very hot girls dancing naked you attract customers. The place built the customer turn up gradually and also gradually added more girls. 60 girls on pay day 3rd of month is not unusual now. Unfortunately they could not maintain the initial standard. There are the really hot girls, not always present on quiet nights or early times, and there are quite a number of more normal girls, still mostly well above average and catering for some range of taste. I would say their best 10 girls are really hot. Not necessarily all a good fuck though, and some dick scared. There are some fake tits and fake noses but they don't really dominate like at Bacarra. Hair styles are not so silly as Baccara. They don't need hair that hides much of the face because they are pretty in a real Thai look sort of way. Customers are therefore 65% Asian and 35% Farang maybe, at a guess.

Lineup can be weak early on a quiet day like Tuesday. Lineup is best on Friday and the weekend and on pay day whatever day that happens to be. I like to get there early so less male competition for the best girls. E. g. Ging with natural D cups is not most pretty girl but still good looks (cute slim playful and big lips) and she is excellent on the bed for me. Pussy feels exceptional. She gets called out by customers very frequently and quickly. Getting there early gives me a chance to call her and get her barfined. My other favourite Oom (93 maybe?) has small tits but pretty face and a tigeress on the bed. Both young girls I suspect, but well past legal. The short very curvy blonde Naen is older but a very good fuck. Pussy just a touch small for me. May-Lee was super hot face and body but unfortunately gone. She performed well after a few tequilas to loosen her inhibitions. Sadly missed. Plenty of hot girls not yet tried. Also plenty of crap girls on the bed. Try to sus out girl a bit first. See if she will kiss nicely even in the bar. If she does its a good sign. If she doesn't kiss in the bar its not conclusive but ask her what she likes doing on the bed. I doubt if many girls will go for less than 2500, among the top lookers. For average looking girls I have no idea. I don't want an ugly girl for a bargain price. Some girls are asking for 3000. Some of these will not be worth much. It just depends on what Asian customers are willing to pay. Naam wants 3 K for a quick fuck and poor service. She looks good but not worth it. Most girls don't even specify a price with me. I am well known and fair to generous for excellent session. Of course Naam may be more motivated by a handsome young Korean dude. She says she likes small dicks and quick fucks. Ha ha. I take far too long.

Music is a bit too loud in the base thump. It is possible to move away and sit not so close to the speakers. My favourite seat has changed for this reason. I am a naked beauty addict, so that is why I attend often. I haven't found any other bar that comes close for standard of the natural looks. Some guys are taking flamboyant "Thaleung" but very average to ugly face girls. I take more time and look for more quality in the face or body, and fun attitude but not usually doing excessively ugly behaviour. The more raunchy the girl behaves, the more its an indicator of being more desperate and usually more ugly. I am going for special looks more so than excessively raunchy behaviour. Some guys asked about a really raunchy girl that had lots of tats including the ass, but for me her face was strange and looked like a ladyboy (too much surgeries or big jaw). I am attracted to unquestionably feminine looks. Some ugly girls hook customers easily just by being really raunchy and assertive or pushy (not what I like at all). Some customers (usually Farangs) have bad taste (in my opinion of course). LOL. Some Farangs don't know how to avoid an assertive girl. They haven't developed their rude streak to just ignore girls that arrive without the customers request. Some staff are trying to suggest certain girls. Not for me. I am willing to listen but know my own taste and which girls attract me. If a girl asks to sit with me, I simply say no, unless I happen to be keen on her (unusual). I don't buy drinks for girls that are too pushy in requesting them. I don't buy for unwanted girls. I avoid the fat mamasan. I have no need for a mamasan. I won't negotiate with girls with a mamasan present and do not like negotiating at all. If I barfine a girl I just give the BF to the girl and let her go deal with mamasan. It is helpful I have good Thai so there are no misunderstandings that can occur when girls have weak English.

Just one time I was concerned that my bill seemed high, so I started counting drinks after that. Have not had a wrong number of drinks since I started doing that, so no evidence that they try to rip me off. Its possible there was a mistake on the bill just once or my bad memory. I don't get drunk and am regular so would be no incentive to rip me off. New drunk people maybe could happen. If worried, just count your drinks and check the bill often.

I don't like the upstairs as much as has less girls, usually short ones, and angle of viewing girls is better downstairs.

I have probably covered most useful topics about Crazy House. I just try to give some understanding of what this bar is like. I have a special favourite waitress that is not a ladyboy. She gets some good tips and the odd drink.

I agree that some other bars in Cowboy have some stunners front of house, but how to get fuck them? Not sure how many are available. Fanny's is a bar I never entered but had a stunner in the front that tempted me severely. Some Coyote girls are really good looking but its only 10 to 20% of them. Cowboy 2 has barfinable Coyote girls but the looks are not that special. Some of Cowboy's Coyote girls are just not good enough in looks or dancing ability. Its like the Coyote rejects in some bars. I need to do a real survey of the bars sometime. Have spent so much time in so few places.

I do ST in Asoke Place rooms typically. Many customers are Asian guys. I significant percentage of them are with a ladyboy (surprising since few LB bars). Less Farangs with ladyboys. Don't know why that is. It's a pity since years ago there were no ladyboys in Cowboy. Crazy House has ladyboy waitresses but not in the dancers.

Syzygies
08-19-15, 07:48
Had a chance to try out this new lady from Mango. Chose her from 8/10 girls in evening. Girls were not attractive but not too bad also. Chose her due to ok face and what seemed like more than avg sized boobs. She was shy and straight away proceeded to shower after bringing her kit. No playing around, no kiss, removed clothes and invited me in shower. Started to rub me with soap as soon as I entered the shower stall so I had to ask her if she is new. Yes 1 week. Still I think Mango should train girls better as we expect a lot more their girls. Told her to start with a kiss which she did and session was all right from here onwards. Dark isan body, no kids, good kisser, be cup boobs. A plus. Truly finger right pussy. She worked quite a sweat in women on top position and gladly let me pound her in the ass for several minutes.

So session was above medicine but I expected much much better from Mango. Was told I was first customer she got since starting work 9 hours ago so obviously things are dead slow. Very few punters but then why fly halfway around the world for service that is not out of this world!We seem to getting few reports about untrained girls at Mango lately. Owners should smarten up and get girls to understand what is expected. I had a newbie girl Emmy at Snow White recently and while she no anal experience at all, and I didn't ask for it, her general GFE service was pretty good. She did mention some training received about the service. She was fun in the shower. Nice body sliding started there.

I think we fly to Thailand and expect a high percentage of girls to be good, only a few exceptional, and hopefully not too many duds. Its then bulk sex for the next week (s). Unfortunately I have to work as well at times. But I agree that we are not expecting completely weak service at Mango. I have not had too many real duds in any of the PSE shops. I remember just one at Tulip many years ago and just Vodka at Cherry, last year? Usually my disappoint in PSE shops is when the body or looks turn out worse than what I was expecting. However I expect only good service in a place like Mango. Maybe they start to comprise to get prettier girls in?