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In the end I not even think that Mango / Cherry are really PSE shops anymore. But still I believed them to have at least a minimum standard of service. My mongering budget is really not much at about 3000 baht per week, so usually I try to visit only the few famous shops (Mango, Cherry, Addict, Snow White, Tulip) and nothing else. Even if nowadays it's difficult to find a real PSE from a semi cute girl, usually at least the basic services are available and I never had a really crappy experience before that made me leave angry.
I guess it's not really safe anymore and should ask for available services even at those shops. (especially for really cute girls. Which really have no point for me if they not deep kiss good).3000 Baht per week seems an incredibly low budget. 100 bucks. Phnom Penh might be better for you, unless you are really in Bangkok for other reasons. I earn vastly more than 3000 per day after tax and not expecting to retire for some time to come. However when I was young in a Farang country I got to monger just once per week for 1 hour. So I guess I understand what its like, and I did want a sure thing. These days I am spending over 3000 Baht per day (average) and expect some hit and miss. I am willing to try unreviewed girls if they look good enough. Its only part of the year I am in Thailand. GF clearly doesn't fuck me enough to keep me from mongering regularly.
If we had more girl reports, from these shops, you could simply take only girls highly recommended on the forum. I know you are reviewing the girls tried. Some others are clearly not pulling their weight and posting girl reviews. Reviews don't have to be long. Just some idea of overall service would be great and something about body under the clothes. I always review new girls tried and again if performance changes. Would be great if everyone did.
Francesco24
08-19-15, 12:01
3000 Baht per week seems an incredibly low budget. 100 bucks. Phnom Penh might be better for you, unless you are really in Bangkok for other reasons. I earn vastly more than 3000 per day after tax and not expecting to retire for some time to come. However when I was young in a Farang country I got to monger just once per week for 1 hour. So I guess I understand what its like, and I did want a sure thing. These days I am spending over 3000 Baht per day (average) and expect some hit and miss. I am willing to try unreviewed girls if they look good enough. Its only part of the year I am in Thailand. GF clearly doesn't fuck me enough to keep me from mongering regularly.
If we had more girl reports, from these shops, you could simply take only girls highly recommended on the forum. I know you are reviewing the girls tried. Some others are clearly not pulling their weight and posting girl reviews. Reviews don't have to be long. Just some idea of overall service would be great and something about body under the clothes. I always review new girls tried and again if performance changes. Would be great if everyone did.I live in Bangkok, I am married. My income allows me to spend about 3000 baht a week on mongering. So usually a 2 k oily and a 1 k BJ bar or some semi-pro friends. Honestly I wouldn't need more than 2 times a week, just would be nice if I had something more to spend to try something new or a bit more expensive without regretting a bad session much.
For sure would be nice if there were a bit more reviews here I would like to try the Emy you reviewed recently but talking with Snow White on the phone has always been troublesome for me. Wish they had email for booking (Cherry does a really good job about it with very quick replies even at night time for next day early morning bookings).
Haven't been to BongKot yet but planning to do so in 3 weeks' time. Any idea about Mony? Her services and what to expect?She's been working quite some time at Snow White, before that at Tulip, under the name of May. The picture should be about 10 years old. But she gave very good service.
Went to Candy at about 2 pm, most ladies in the lineup were more on the heavy side. So I choose Guitar. Nice boobs and ass, quite soft. She likes to kiss, BJ was so so, sex was good, she comes easily, but she has to learn to pump on top. After a long first session, we both fell asleep. Could not come in the second round, but it was all in all a nice GF-like experience.
For sure would be nice if there were a bit more reviews here I would like to try the Emy you reviewed recently but talking with Snow White on the phone has always been troublesome for me. Wish they had email for booking (Cherry does a really good job about it with very quick replies even at night time for next day early morning bookings).I don't recommend a booking. If you are not too far away then just show up and see if Emmy is available. She won't be taking too many days off in her first month of any. Probably a 12 hour shift. I don't imagine she is massively busy yet. Inexperienced newbie but good attitude. Don't know if she will try anal or not.
She's been working quite some time at Snow White, before that at Tulip, under the name of May. The picture should be about 10 years old. But she gave very good service.Having become curious about her I went to Bongkot today at about 1 pm. When I saw her, I almost changed my mind. She has gained some weight and I couldn't associate her with the May I had known at Snow White. I'm not 100% sure, but I think her silicone enhancement is recent also. Up we went and she started a BJ even before showering like Pond and Daw did at Tulip. This went on in the shower together with body to body rubbing. What followed on the bed was more than 1 hour fucking and sucking only interrupted after the first shot by about 10 minutes of massage. Did not try the back door, but am sure it would have been available. I time allows, I would repeat.
Having become curious about her I went to Bongkot today at about 1 pm. When I saw her, I almost changed my mind. She has gained some weight and I couldn't associate her with the May I had known at Snow White. I'm not 100% sure, but I think her silicone enhancement is recent also. Up we went and she started a BJ even before showering like Pond and Daw did at Tulip. This went on in the shower together with body to body rubbing. What followed on the bed was more than 1 hour fucking and sucking only interrupted after the first shot by about 10 minutes of massage. Did not try the back door, but am sure it would have been available. I time allows, I would repeat.I've known her from Tulip, then Snow White II, then Cherry. She's had her sillies for quite some time, certainly going back to when she worked at Snow White. Didn't have them at Tulip though, at least not when I saw her there quite a few years ago. And yes, her back door has been open for business since the Tulip days.
....Started to rub me with soap as soon as I entered the shower stall so I had to ask her if she is new. Yes 1 week. Still I think Mango should train girls better as we expect a lot more their girls. Told her to start with a kiss which she did and session was all right from here onwards. Dark isan body, no kids, good kisser, be cup boobs. A plus. Truly finger right pussy. She worked quite a sweat in women on top position and gladly let me pound her in the ass for several minutes.
So session was above medicine but I expected much much better from Mango. Was told I was first customer she got since starting work 9 hours ago so obviously things are dead slow. Very few punters but then why fly halfway around the world for service that is not out of this world!I'd say that lecture kind of training cannot make people good at what they do. It takes practice and experience, in addition to training.
Perhaps the problem is that new ladies get only lecture kind of training, before they go off on their own with a guy. In healthcare for example, a new student, who starts working with patients, usually goes with an experienced staff member. The experienced staff member lets the student do all the work and acts as a kind of coach, who tells this student what to do and gives this student pointers about how to do it well. And only after a few days of such supervised work, does the student go off on his own to work with some patients.
This is the kind of training that would make new massage ladies good, soon after they start. And I'm sure many guys wouldn't mind taking on a lady in training like this. I certainly would enjoy having such an experience with a new lady.
But I have to say that any new lady who lets you pound her nice ass even for a few minutes is bound to become good with guys in the future. Because she is already more willing to take a good drilling than many other ladies are. Not every lass will do A+.
....When I saw her, I almost changed my mind. She has gained some weight and I couldn't associate her with the May I had known at Snow White. I'm not 100% sure, but I think her silicone enhancement is recent also. Up we went and she started a BJ even before showering like Pond and Daw did at Tulip. This went on in the shower together with body to body rubbing. What followed on the bed was more than 1 hour fucking and sucking only interrupted after the first shot by about 10 minutes of massage. Did not try the back door, but am sure it would have been available. I time allows, I would repeat.I think your experience with Mony shows something that not many massage ladies realize. The way the lady behaves with her guys can be even more important than her looks.
A lot of guys like sexually-aggressive women, who grab their cock, make it like a rock, and then keep maintaining the guy's cock with their mouth and hands during their session, to make sure he doesn't go soft on them.
Because when the lady is grabbing you and fondling you all over the place, then you aren't going to be shy about grabbing her and fondling her either. Such a lady makes you loose your social inhibitions with her and really nail her the way you want. She brings out the man in you, so to say. And it is a sexually liberating experience for a guy to have.
Candy just sent me pictures of 5 new girls that have started with her. Check them out. Anybody who is familiar with Candy and her high standards will know that all of these girls are expected to give excellent service!
Went to Candy at about 2 pm, most ladies in the lineup were more on the heavy side. So I choose Guitar. Nice boobs and ass, quite soft. She likes to kiss, BJ was so so, sex was good, she comes easily, but she has to learn to pump on top. After a long first session, we both fell asleep. Could not come in the second round, but it was all in all a nice GF-like experience.Does she resemble her web site pic? On web site several girls look doable for my slim taste: Guitar, see, Yaya, Namwaan, Nene. However are any of them anything like those looks? I have been past Candy plenty of times obviously, and probably been inside at least once or twice, but so far I believe have not seen anything measuring up to web site pics.
So I don't recall actually taking anyone to date. Do girls tend to sit outside or stay inside??
Candy just sent me pictures of 5 new girls that have started with her. Check them out. Anybody who is familiar with Candy and her high standards will know that all of these girls are expected to give excellent service!I did a quick search (maybe not exhaustive) and couldn't find clear answers to the following questions about Candy Massage:
(1) Is it a consistent multi-pop shop (meaning it doesn't have to be negotiated with the girls, and also assuming a 2-hour session is booked)?
(2) Is A-level service provided, and, if so, by approximately how many of the girls (and, assuming some of the girls do this, is there a surcharge)?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
Member #4591
08-21-15, 06:25
Candy just sent me pictures of 5 new girls that have started with her. Check them out. Anybody who is familiar with Candy and her high standards will know that all of these girls are expected to give excellent service!Thanks for coming out mate but nothing here catches my eye. They look like the current line up from Tulip.
JackieChino
08-21-15, 07:06
I'd say that lecture kind of training cannot make people good at what they do. It takes practice and experience, in addition to training.
Perhaps the problem is that new ladies get only lecture kind of training, before they go off on their own with a guy. In healthcare for example, a new student, who starts working with patients, usually goes with an experienced staff member. The experienced staff member lets the student do all the work and acts as a kind of coach, who tells this student what to do and gives this student pointers about how to do it well. And only after a few days of such supervised work, does the student go off on his own to work with some patients.
This is the kind of training that would make new massage ladies good, soon after they start. And I'm sure many guys wouldn't mind taking on a lady in training like this. I certainly would enjoy having such an experience with a new lady.
But I have to say that any new lady who lets you pound her nice ass even for a few minutes is bound to become good with guys in the future. Because she is already more willing to take a good drilling than many other ladies are. Not every lass will do A+.Very true.
When I had my first session with opor, she told me that in the beginning Ice / Lisa used to bring her to her sessions for some lesbian /3 some action. Opoe told me that while she was shy in the beginning, she was amazed at the performance and service provided by Lisa / Ice and that she learnt a lot.
I did a quick search (maybe not exhaustive) and couldn't find clear answers to the following questions about Candy Massage:
(1) Is it a consistent multi-pop shop (meaning it doesn't have to be negotiated with the girls, and also assuming a 2-hour session is booked)?
(2) Is A-level service provided, and, if so, by approximately how many of the girls (and, assuming some of the girls do this, is there a surcharge)?
Thanks in advance for any answers.Yes Candy Massage is a multi-pop shop. It operates to the same service standard as Snowhite.
A-level is provided. But you might want to enquire exactly who is offering it. From personal experience I know that B-M, Ya Ya and of course Candy are A+.
No extra fee for A+.
All the girls at Candy are new to the Sukhumvit scene and have not been recycled from other shops. Which means they are not jaded yet.
Most of them are new to the industry. Anybody who met Candy will know that she has high service standards which she is expecting from her team. I found them all friendly, willing and eager and a good atmosphere at the shop.
From a very subjective POV my choice is more based on service quality and enthusiasm rather than looking for a super model. But everyone has different expectations.
Thanks for coming out mate but nothing here catches my eye. They look like the current line up from Tulip.No problem. At least these are non photoshopped pictures.
And BTW. Knowing how busy the top ladies at Tulip are, there are obviously plenty of customers that still like what's on offer.
Thanks for coming out mate but nothing here catches my eye. They look like the current line up from Tulip.Knowing Ice / Lisa only too well I think the "training" was more for her own benefit than that of Opor :-)).
A few weeks ago before she left for Malaysia I met with her and another good friend for an overnight session. She just loves eating pussy!
From a very subjective POV my choice is more based on service quality and enthusiasm rather than looking for a super model. But everyone has different expectations.I would agree. IMO attitude is twice as important as looks. For me it works out to something like:
Looks 10 and attitude 7 = 24/3 = overall 8.
Looks 7 and attitude 10 = 27/3 = overall 9.
Candy Massage will be on my radar come October for sure.
SunLover
Is there any MP in BKK having Russian / European Girls with all the services?
After a Google search I found only few escort agencies and not MPs.
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All the girls at Candy are new to the Sukhumvit scene and have not been recycled from other shops. Which means they are not jaded yet.
Most of them are new to the industry. Anybody who met Candy will know that she has high service standards which she is expecting from her team. I found them all friendly, willing and eager and a good atmosphere at the shop....
I think it's important to point out that some of the so-called "jaded" ladies are much better in bed with their guys, than any new lady can be.
It's true that some experienced ladies get burned out, and they stop caring about pleasing their guys. But this isn't the case with every experienced lady. Many experienced ladies like what they do, and they are pretty good at it too.
I remember one time I wanted to take my experienced massage lady in an unusual position. We were lying on the bed side-by-side, face-to-face. I pulled her top leg over my hip and tried to enter her pussy with my cock. But I just fumbled my cock between her legs, and I didn't get anywhere with her.
Fortunately, this lady knew what to do. She took my cock with a firm hand, carefully put it against her vaginal opening which she found by feel, and then she suddenly slammed her pussy hard on my cock. I went right inside her alright, almost all the way to my balls. I was so surprised by her sudden move that I looked at her face. And pleased with herself she certainly was. She obviously knew what to do. This probably wasn't the first time she took a fumbling-bumbling guy with her pussy like this.
And needless to say, I really got to have my way with this pretty experienced lady in our side-by-side, face-to-face position. The big advantage of this position is that you don't need to fight against gravity, when you are banging the lady. The bed supports your weight, and you can just roll your hips back and forth to nail the lady with your cock.
This position is so easy on you that you have a lot of control with the girl. You can vary your speed a lot. Hard and fast. Then take it easy for a while to make yourself last longer with her. And then back to hard and fast. You don't get physically tired in this position. And this means that you can last with your lady for a long, long time. All you need to do is slow down with her, when you feel that you are about to cum inside her.
This position is also pretty good if you want to play with her ass, while you are nailing her. Her ass is yours for the taking, as far as your hands are concerned, especially if you put your bottom arm under her body to reach for her ass. You can nail the lady better, when you hold her ass. And you can give her some anal experience by spreading her cheeks and pressing her anal sphincter against your moving cock inside her pussy. You can actually feel your cock move inside her, when you press on her anal sphincter with your hand.
This position has many advantages, including the fact that you can suck on her tits, and you can even reach between you and her to play with her clit a little, while you are nailing her pussy. When you are relaxed and you don't need to fight against gravity, then there are a lot of things you can do with the lady, while you are nailing her pussy with your cock. And you can last with her for a long time too.
The only thing about this position is that the initial penetration is pretty hard to achieve, unless your lady is experienced and she knows what to do with you.
And that's the value of being with an experienced massage lady, as opposed to being with somebody new. If you know what you are doing, then you can nail an experienced massage lady a lot more and a lot better than any lady who is new.
Is there any MP in BKK having Russian / European Girls with all the services?
After a Google search I found only few escort agencies and not MPs.I did see one Caucasian girl in Amsterdam soapy a few months ago. In the model section. A blonde. The mamasan said she was English. Strangely enough, she seemed exotic as the lone white girl in an MP full of Thai girls. I didn't travel all the way to Bangkok to be with a white girl so I didn't go with her. Not aware of any other places with Euros.
I think it's important to point out that some of the so-called "jaded" ladies are much better in bed with their guys, than any new lady can be.
It's true that some experienced ladies get burned out, and they stop caring about pleasing their guys. But this isn't the case with every experienced lady. Many experienced ladies like what they do, and they are pretty good at it too.
I remember one time I wanted to take my experienced massage lady in an unusual position. We were lying on the bed side-by-side, face-to-face. I pulled her top leg over my hip and tried to enter her pussy with my cock. But I just fumbled my cock between her legs, and I didn't get anywhere with her.
Fortunately, this lady knew what to do. She took my cock with a firm hand, carefully put it against her vaginal opening which she found by feel, and then she suddenly slammed her pussy hard on my cock. I went right inside her alright, almost all the way to my balls. I was so surprised by her sudden move that I looked at her face. And pleased with herself she certainly was. She obviously knew what to do. This probably wasn't the first time she took a fumbling-bumbling guy with her pussy like this.
And needless to say, I really got to have my way with this pretty experienced lady in our side-by-side, face-to-face position. The big advantage of this position is that you don't need to fight against gravity, when you are banging the lady. The bed supports your weight, and you can just roll your hips back and forth to nail the lady with your cock.
This position is so easy on you that you have a lot of control with the girl. You can vary your speed a lot. Hard and fast. Then take it easy for a while to make yourself last longer with her. And then back to hard and fast. You don't get physically tired in this position. And this means that you can last with your lady for a long, long time. All you need to do is slow down with her, when you feel that you are about to cum inside her.
This position is also pretty good if you want to play with her ass, while you are nailing her. Her ass is yours for the taking, as far as your hands are concerned, especially if you put your bottom arm under her body to reach for her ass. You can nail the lady better, when you hold her ass. And you can give her some anal experience by spreading her cheeks and pressing her anal sphincter against your moving cock inside her pussy. You can actually feel your cock move inside her, when you press on her anal sphincter with your hand.
This position has many advantages, including the fact that you can suck on her tits, and you can even reach between you and her to play with her clit a little, while you are nailing her pussy. When you are relaxed and you don't need to fight against gravity, then there are a lot of things you can do with the lady, while you are nailing her pussy with your cock. And you can last with her for a long time too.
The only thing about this position is that the initial penetration is pretty hard to achieve, unless your lady is experienced and she knows what to do with you.
And that's the value of being with an experienced massage lady, as opposed to being with somebody new. If you know what you are doing, then you can nail an experienced massage lady a lot more and a lot better than any lady who is new.I believe you have just described the scissors position which I used to do many decades ago with a girlfriend in the days when I could have done it 8 times a day. However, I prefer the spooning position where you are lying next to each other but her back is to you. The downside of p4 p is that pros are reluctant to do multiple positions, they are really for gfs.
From a very subjective POV my choice is more based on service quality and enthusiasm rather than looking for a super model. But everyone has different expectations.Unfortunately I am warped toward super models and very pretty faces, which rules out the vast majority of PSE shop girls and I have to make time to look in lots of places if possible, be prepared to pay more, and have plenty of failures. I can forgive some defects especially as not a tit man, but girls have to be slimmish and well above average looks and fun.
I do however appreciate that other guys are looking for performance. I can understand that lots of MP girls need that to be able to make a living. Many have ordinary looks.
Guys report an ordinary line up often, at various shops. No MP has more than a few stunners if they have any at all. So I don't understand why some posters need to get so vitriolic about seeing a weak line up at any particular time. Its situation normal for me. I was a bit surprised that Natty, spending big money of top of the range La Belle models, really needed to use the "hideous" word for a line up that is probably better than Tulip (based on one visit to Tulip which maybe unfair).
I din't see why its necessary to bash poor girls who lost their figure through pregnancy and are a bit older. Thai girls are generally not taking abortions for religiouus reasons, and don't seem to be smart enough about morning after pill or doing bareback because guy insists. The guys having their fun don't care what happens to the girl or the babies.
I hate more, the photo shopping web sites that try to con us that the line ups are stunning when in reality they are not. So apprecaite if Candy is using some real photos honestly. Some of the Candy website line up girls do make me want to take another look.
Having had a superb looking GF, with good body even though older, its just hard for me to be excited by a lower standard.
I have taken older super star PSE girls like Dao, Cheer, etc. but they just don't do anything for me any more. For some reason, a stunner with average to good performance works better for me. We can't all be the same.
It's so fortunate that we all don't have the same taste. Some say the line up in Sharks and Baccara is the best. I want to vomit instead. Very few doable natural girls for my taste. Someone said a particular Suzi Wong girl had a great figure. For me she was built like a tank and one of the worst girls in the shop for personality. I might take instead a slim girl with no tits and others would be equally mystified.
So I would like to see a little more respect from posters about what others guys like that may not agree with our personal taste. A little less shit dumping. I may have been guilty myself on occasion being mystified with another person's choice and too critical. It is hard to stand a rave about a less than average girl.
We also have different behaviours as well. Sometimes I go to a bar with a buddy and I amazed how polite he can be with unknown girls that assertively show up uninvited, where I don't put up with girls I don't know and did not request. It interferes with my ability to access desired targets. I can be quite rude by Thai standards, I guess.
Wolvenvacht
08-22-15, 07:40
I believe you have just described the scissors position which I used to do many decades ago with a girlfriend in the days when I could have done it 8 times a day. However, I prefer the spooning position where you are lying next to each other but her back is to you. The downside of p4 p is that pros are reluctant to do multiple positions, they are really for gfs.I guess I must have been lucky!
I never had any issues with doing multiple positions with P4P girls. They all readily accepted my suggestions to switch to whatever position I wished. Actually, some GFs were more lazy in that respect or perhaps they were more fond of the more intimate positions such as missionary or spooning and less keen to do the "porn" moves (doggy, cowgirl, . . .)
Francesco24
08-22-15, 08:11
I first went to Snow White looking for Amy but she wasn't working. Line up quite bad, so moved to Cherry. At Cherry was looking for Yaya or Angie but both weren't working, again line up quite bad. Went to Addict, line up was a lot better and choose Ice (even if my first choices Sandy / Oil weren't working too).
She looks quite better than her only picture on the website, was smiling the most in the lineup and also in the room was initially fun with slim / firm body when naked and cute face. After shower the service started to be bad straight away. Kissing was "available" at first but she opened her mouth just about half centimeter and just stood there (after that when I tried again later on she didn't even open her mouth that half centimeter). BBBJ was mechanical and after a minute or so she asked to cover before continue it a few more minutes. Of course sex too was nothing special, she just lay down there. Finished everything in 40 minutes (include shower at the end) and wasn't offered any massage and just walked downstairs.
Looks like last time wasn't enough to learn my lesson and at least ask about kissing availability before selecting her (well, this never happened to me before in many years. But looks like I'll have to adapt). At the end, a cute girl just doesn't do much for me if she not allows kissing and she's good at it showing (or faking) some interest / passions.
I guess I must have been lucky!
I never had any issues with doing multiple positions with P4P girls. They all readily accepted my suggestions to switch to whatever position I wished. Actually, some GFs were more lazy in that respect or perhaps they were more fond of the more intimate positions such as missionary or spooning and less keen to do the "porn" moves (doggy, cowgirl, . . .)Yeh WTF, I agree. Pros are much more likely to by to do various positions than GF. My GF is conservative abd doesn't do cowgirl. Basically its mish. Sideways scissors, spooning, doggy. She like to be in submissive role and for me to be the energwtic one. She likes DATY but lazy to do much of a BJ straining her jaw.
She is extremely sensitive and gets off very quickly multiple times. No difficulty to orgasm at all. Cowgirl giving the girl control is not necessary for her. She prefers to be totally relaxed and just get serviced.
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Looks like last time wasn't enough to learn my lesson and at least ask about kissing availability before selecting her (well, this never happened to me before in many years. But looks like I'll have to adapt). At the end, a cute girl just doesn't do much for me if she not allows kissing and she's good at it showing (or faking) some interest / passions.You definitely need to ask. Open mouth kissing (much less DFK) is not prevalent in the Thai culture. Basically they prefer to hold their heads close together and more or less sniff each other. Maybe they think they are kissing correctly or what they are doing is enough of a stretch from their norm, but it is indeed a reasonable farang expectation at a PSE shop.
SL
I first went to Snow White looking for Amy but she wasn't working. Line up quite bad, so moved to Cherry. At Cherry was looking for Yaya or Angie but both weren't working, again line up quite bad. Went to Addict, line up was a lot better and choose Ice (even if my first choices Sandy / Oil weren't working too).
She looks quite better than her only picture on the website, was smiling the most in the lineup and also in the room was initially fun with slim / firm body when naked and cute face. After shower the service started to be bad straight away. Kissing was "available" at first but she opened her mouth just about half centimeter and just stood there (after that when I tried again later on she didn't even open her mouth that half centimeter). BBBJ was mechanical and after a minute or so she asked to cover before continue it a few more minutes. Of course sex too was nothing special, she just lay down there. Finished everything in 40 minutes (include shower at the end) and wasn't offered any massage and just walked downstairs.
Looks like last time wasn't enough to learn my lesson and at least ask about kissing availability before selecting her (well, this never happened to me before in many years. But looks like I'll have to adapt). At the end, a cute girl just doesn't do much for me if she not allows kissing and she's good at it showing (or faking) some interest / passions.These gals will continue to provide poor service unless we the punters complain. I have gotten to the point where if the session is not satisfactory I complain to the mamasan. Enough complaints and the gal will either get it together or will probably find another line of work, because the mamasan wants customers to return and we won't if the service is not good. If I am paying 2100 Baht for 90 min, I expect 90 min of good service. Sandy and Oil seem to be the only good providers at Addict. Had a sesh with Sandy a few weeks ago and asked her is she every tried to train the other gals. She said she has attempted. But she says they don't listen and then are upset that Sandy is always booked. She also said that most of the gals there do not really want to be doing what they are doing. That was the same story I heard from Evelyn, who was just as amazing as Sandy.
You definitely need to ask. Open mouth kissing (much less DFK) is not prevalent in the Thai culture. Basically they prefer to hold their heads close together and more or less sniff each other. Maybe they think they are kissing correctly or what they are doing is enough of a stretch from their norm, but it is indeed a reasonable farang expectation at a PSE shop.
SL.Honestly, I have had very few gals in my 16 years here that were averse to DFK. A few yes, but very few. I would say that most enjoy the attention.
I believe you have just described the scissors position which I used to do many decades ago with a girlfriend in the days when I could have done it 8 times a day. However, I prefer the spooning position where you are lying next to each other but her back is to you. The downside of p4 p is that pros are reluctant to do multiple positions, they are really for gfs.I have had almost no issues getting P4 P gals in LOS to do multiple positions. The only issue I have at times is when they contort their body to avoid deep penetration. The two main being when they flatten out while in mish and the "Angry or Scared Cat" when in doggy. Nothing is less inviting than that. Preferable is the "Cat in Heat. ".
Member #4698
08-22-15, 13:53
Guys report an ordinary line up often, at various shops. No MP has more than a few stunners if they have any at all. So I don't understand why some posters need to get so vitriolic about seeing a weak line up at any particular time. Its situation normal for me. I was a bit surprised that Natty, spending big money of top of the range La Belle models, really needed to use the "hideous" word for a line up that is probably better than Tulip (based on one visit to Tulip which maybe unfair).
I din't see why its necessary to bash poor girls who lost their figure through pregnancy and are a bit older. I hate more, the photo shopping web sites that try to con us that the line ups are stunning when in reality they are not.
Some say the line up in Sharks and Baccara is the best. I want to vomit instead. Very few doable natural girls for my taste. Someone said a particular Suzi Wong girl had a great figure. For me she was built like a tank and one of the worst girls in the shop for personality. I might take instead a slim girl with no tits and others would be equally mystified.
In retrospect I agree that "hideous" was the wrong choice of words. Usually I like to use the word "plain" to describe girls I consider 5* or less and that I personally consider un-doable. The last thing I want is to be mean towards decent working girls. Actually I have known a couple of "plain" girls intimately and they were very very sweet and gave a lot of themselves to me during our time together. One such girl was Wei #35 from Annies. I knew her before she had her breast enhancements. IMO she was borderline doable in looks, 5.5* at best, but she was the best looking girl in Annie's fishbowl at the time. Wei turned out to be an incredibly sweet shag. A friend of mine really liked her and thought she was a looker, so there you are: everybody has different tastes. My friend took Wei out overnight several times. What prompted me to use the word "hideous" in describing Annie's lineup was my reaction to another negative field report from that joint and my desire to encourage newbies to look elsewhere, but like I said above I think "hideous" was too strong a term.
On Baccara: I think you and I will have to agree to disagree. 555. I like the place. For me, Baccara is like home. I have known a bunch of Baccara girls for a long time and a couple of waitresses as well, so I always get taken care of very well. In addition, Baccara has so many girls to choose from that I never have trouble finding 3 or 4 shag worthy girls. Crazy House is a welcome addition to Soi Cowboy and I now prefer it slightly over Baccara. They are two very different types of establishments. I like the nudity in CH and some CH girls are very hot, plus things can become much more wild in CH compared to Baccara especially when you take a girl up to the 2nd floor, but CH is a much smaller place and the head mamasan is a pain. No place is perfect.
I too know what I like when I see it. I think I am pretty particular about who I shag, but I am also sure that some guys would be quite mystified with my choices. I like pretty faces, natural Thai bodies, and demure, friendly personalities.
I believe you have just described the scissors position which I used to do many decades ago with a girlfriend in the days when I could have done it 8 times a day. However, I prefer the spooning position where you are lying next to each other but her back is to you. The downside of p4 p is that pros are reluctant to do multiple positions, they are really for gfs.I suppose, anything is possible, including a girlfriend who is better in bed, than an experienced massage lady. But some time ago, I've seen an interview of a P4P lady in USA. And she said that one big reason why a lot of married men came to her was to try various positions with her. And she had no problem with this at all. She said that what these guys asked of her was so easy that it was stupid to see these guys cheat with her. The wives of these guys could've easily done the same things she did and prevented all that marriage trouble they ended up in.
But of course, you don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. And the other side of this is that a lot of guys aren't good at pleasing their lady in bed. And a lot of guys don't even try to please their woman. Why would a woman want to have sex with her guy, when it doesn't do much for her? A P4P lady would say, it's her pay. But a married woman or a girlfriend doesn't get paid like this. Her only reason might be the guy being good in bed with her. Which quite often isn't the case. And for this reason I would say that guys are to some extent to blame for this problem. Because guys can learn to be good in bed with their ladies. It's a solvable problem. All you need is some interest and some motivation.
You are right to some extent that even experienced P4P ladies might appear to be reluctant to do anything unusual with you. That experienced massage lady, whom I've described in my earlier post, actually expected me to take her in the missionary position. She lay on her back and spread her legs for me. But I was a little bit emotionally unstable at that time, and I showed such obvious disappointment that she asked me how I wanted to do it with her. And that's when I went for the face-to-face, scissors position with her. This wasn't my first time with her. I actually developed some feelings for her. And what I really wanted was a very intimate fuck with her. You can really hug your sexy lady in that face-to-face, scissors position and kiss her on the cheek, while you are nailing her with your dick.
And that's the thing about experienced P4P ladies. They can't read your mind. They know that you want to get laid. But how you want it, they have no idea. It's up to you to say and perhaps show her a porn-clip on your smartphone to explain what you want. Showing her rather than telling her works better, especially when you have a language barrier.
Virtually all guys watch porn nowadays. And some people say that this isn't the way people normally have sex with each other. And right they are, when it comes to boyfriends and girlfriends and husbands and wives. But P4P ladies have an edge to maintain over other women. Or else guys might as well stay with their wives.
P4P ladies specialize in doing the things that you see in porn movies. Because at least some of their guys are avid porn-fans, who want to do with them something they've seen in a porn movie. That's why you see some massage ladies doing A+ nowadays. And many ladies are also willing to take a good drilling in various positions. All you need to do is show and ask. The only thing to remember is that just because you've seen something in a porn movie doesn't mean that you know how to do it well. If you don't know what you are doing, then you can potentially injure the lady. And that's why you need to proceed with caution, when you go outside of your usual experience.
AssLover945
08-22-15, 18:07
Location right at the entry of soi, first shop on right had side on entry.
Number of girls activ currently: 8-10.
Owner / manager. Candy, works herself there, so sometimes may not be at the desk.
Quality - 6-8 mostly (YMMV), 2 absolute gems. Yaya and Guitar, Tall & Svelte.
For people who love big girls (Not fat) - try Pang and Kiwi.
BBBJ available with all ladies, (Fon is fantastic at that)
Anal, rimming, duos, trios are all available, Complete PSE oily place.
Rooms OK OK. But who goes there for rooms!!
NOTE: Not all ladies are on website. Sometimes rooms can get quite busy with only 2-3 girls available.
Best time to see all girls: 1 - 2 PM.
Location right at the entry of soi, first shop on right had side on entry.
Number of girls activ currently: 8-10.
Owner / manager. Candy, works herself there, so sometimes may not be at the desk.
Quality - 6-8 mostly (YMMV), 2 absolute gems. Yaya and Guitar, Tall & Svelte.
For people who love big girls (Not fat) - try Pang and Kiwi.
BBBJ available with all ladies, (Fon is fantastic at that)
Anal, rimming, duos, trios are all available, Complete PSE oily place.
Rooms OK OK. But who goes there for rooms!!
NOTE: Not all ladies are on website. Sometimes rooms can get quite busy with only 2-3 girls available.
Best time to see all girls: 1 - 2 PM.Both are worth a visit, but on different grounds. To cut it short, Yaya is more professional, Guitar more GF experience. I prefer Guitar.
I can't believe the situation is so bad now that next time I will have to ask girl whether she kisses or not. This is not the service I used to get in Thailand
I first went to Snow White looking for Amy but she wasn't working. Line up quite bad, so moved to Cherry. At Cherry was looking for Yaya or Angie but both weren't working, again line up quite bad. Went to Addict, line up was a lot better and choose Ice (even if my first choices Sandy / Oil weren't working too).
She looks quite better than her only picture on the website, was smiling the most in the lineup and also in the room was initially fun with slim / firm body when naked and cute face. After shower the service started to be bad straight away. Kissing was "available" at first but she opened her mouth just about half centimeter and just stood there (after that when I tried again later on she didn't even open her mouth that half centimeter). BBBJ was mechanical and after a minute or so she asked to cover before continue it a few more minutes. Of course sex too was nothing special, she just lay down there. Finished everything in 40 minutes (include shower at the end) and wasn't offered any massage and just walked downstairs.
Looks like last time wasn't enough to learn my lesson and at least ask about kissing availability before selecting her (well, this never happened to me before in many years. But looks like I'll have to adapt). At the end, a cute girl just doesn't do much for me if she not allows kissing and she's good at it showing (or faking) some interest / passions..
Unfortunately I am warped toward super models and very pretty faces, which rules out the vast majority of PSE shop girls and I have to make time to look in lots of places if possible, be prepared to pay more, and have plenty of failures. I can forgive some defects especially as not a tit man, but girls have to be slimmish and well above average looks and fun.
I do however appreciate that other guys are looking for performance. I can understand that lots of MP girls need that to be able to make a living. Many have ordinary looks.
I have taken older super star PSE girls like Dao, Cheer, etc. but they just don't do anything for me any more. For some reason, a stunner with average to good performance works better for me. We can't all be the same.
It's so fortunate that we all don't have the same taste.
So I would like to see a little more respect from posters about what others guys like that may not agree with our personal taste. A little less shit dumping. I may have been guilty myself on occasion being mystified with another person's choice and too critical. It is hard to stand a rave about a less than average girl.Yes, thankfully we don't all have the same taste or needs. Personally it is getting harder and harder for me to find much of anything I am satisfied with. I think many of us old "oily" guys became really spoiled with Barons, Tulip, and Mango / SW back in the day. There was that wonderful combination of looks and stellar performance that is so hard to find. Truth be told whether I have a sesh with a gal who is not that much of a looker but a great performer or a good looker who does not perform, I leave less than satisfied, often thinking that I would have been better staying home, whittling the puppet, and saving the 2100 Baht. Rare is the sesh I leave with legs ready to buckle thinking that it could not get any better.
A few posts about Candy Massage here lately. I have made several passes through and even thought I am sure the performance is great, I just can't really get past the looks of most of the gals. Same holds true for Tulip now as well. I do see some lookers hanging out at some of the more Asian oriented venues on 24/1 but know that the performance is not going to be up to snuff, so again, I pass. Sadly my two regular oily gals have just left the biz. One off to lands where she will make more and the other back home to open a club. I am not optimistic about finding replacements, although I remain hopeful. Up until a few years ago I never really had regulars at the oilies. I would go into Snow or Mango and there would be a host of lookers and they would pretty much perform up to standard.
My expectations are also tied in with what the tariff is. Was in Pattaya last weekend and made my first visit to Kinnaree Place. Quite a few gals that were very good looking. Some could easily be stars at most BKK GoGos. Even Syz could find something to his liking. ST was 1 k plus 350 for the room. Of course you don't get PSE performance, more of a pretty good standard ST, but at 1350 that is ok. Boost that up to 2100 for 90 min in the oilies and I expect a bit more, which in many cases I am not getting.
Sadly my two regular oily gals have just left the biz. One off to lands where she will make more and the other back home to open a club. I am not optimistic about finding replacements, although I remain hopeful. Up until a few years ago I never really had regulars at the oilies. I would go into Snow or Mango and there would be a host of lookers and they would pretty much perform up to standard.
"host of lookers" is slightly optimistic. LOL I don't actually find any super lookers in Snow White these days. Who would they be in case I just failed to meet them? New Emmy was a good enough case (despite nose job).
Favourites disappearing is also my big problem. They don't usually last very long in the business. Just too good looking to stay.
A favourite soapy girl from many years ago, still at La Belle today, got older, service declined badly, and recently when I saw her, I could not recognise her with a new very long "Nixon" nose. First pic is 2008, 2nd is 2011 and already girl looks slightly different. Right now I don't even recognise her any more. Legs got too big as well. Natural tits and never needed a nose job now which makes her look silly.
On Baccara: I think you and I will have to agree to disagree. 555. I like the place. For me, Baccara is like home. I have known a bunch of Baccara girls for a long time and a couple of waitresses as well, so I always get taken care of very well. In addition, Baccara has so many girls to choose from that I never have trouble finding 3 or 4 shag worthy girls. Crazy House is a welcome addition to Soi Cowboy and I now prefer it slightly over Baccara. They are two very different types of establishments. I like the nudity in CH and some CH girls are very hot, plus things can become much more wild in CH compared to Baccara especially when you take a girl up to the 2nd floor, but CH is a much smaller place and the head mamasan is a pain. No place is perfect.
I too know what I like when I see it. I think I am pretty particular about who I shag, but I am also sure that some guys would be quite mystified with my choices. I like pretty faces, natural Thai bodies, and demure, friendly personalities.Its a simple thing. Guys that like Baccara and La Belle, most likely are not minding girls with nose jobs. I hate these beacons on the front of the face mostly, will sometimes tolerate one, if all other things are good. I don't mind an undetectable nose job, which is less than 10% of them unfortunately. I am not at all impressed by big fake coconuts too. Also these establishments typically have girls with a different type of semi-Farang look and sometimes a doll like look, often with weird contrived hairstyles, neither of which I go for, but others do. I have had a couple of nice girls out of Baccara in the far past, but I get bored in their very quickly in rare recent visits. It is tough to find a good natural girl in there. I also get bored very quickly in Tilac, and most bars unless I have a special girl or two. I mean bars are generally pretty boring, right. You need to have something a bit special to tweak the interest.
Another problem with Baccara downstairs. Tend to be so many girls packed on the stage, that its very hard to see many of them properly without doing circuits of the stage, and even then they still have tits covered (no good).
In Thai Lakhorn (TV soapy series), in the modern day, most of the actresses have a nose job. Its very well accepted. In the old days, like 15 to 20 years ago when I watched these shows to improve my Thai understanding, very few had nose jobs, and I got used to natural beauty looks. Fortunately some older stars return sometimes. Teya who starred in 2000 series "Prissana", still looks good in Lakhorn "Seua", 15 years later. Well over 30 now.
"host of lookers" is slightly optimistic. LOL I don't actually find any super lookers in Snow White these days. Who would they be in case I just failed to meet them? New Emmy was a good enough case (despite nose job).
Favourites disappearing is also my big problem. They don't usually last very long in the business. Just too good looking to stay.
A favourite soapy girl from many years ago, still at La Belle today, got older, service declined badly, and recently when I saw her, I could not recognise her with a new very long "Nixon" nose. First pic is 2008, 2nd is 2011 and already girl looks slightly different. Right now I don't even recognise her any more. Legs got too big as well. Natural tits and never needed a nose job now which makes her look silly.Neither do I and that is the problem. I was referring to the "host of lookers" when SW and Mango first opened.
Actually I find her look in 2011 far more to my tastes than the 2008 pic. "Nixon" nose! Love that expression. Most excellent.
The amazing thing about most of the original Tulip and Barons cast that are still around today; absolutely no decline in service level. Those Nakhon Phanom gals were such wonderful providers.
Location right at the entry of soi, first shop on right had side on entry.
Number of girls activ currently: 8-10.
Owner / manager. Candy, works herself there, so sometimes may not be at the desk.
Quality - 6-8 mostly (YMMV), 2 absolute gems. Yaya and Guitar, Tall & Svelte.
For people who love big girls (Not fat) - try Pang and Kiwi.
BBBJ available with all ladies, (Fon is fantastic at that)
Anal, rimming, duos, trios are all available, Complete PSE oily place.
Rooms OK OK. But who goes there for rooms!!
NOTE: Not all ladies are on website. Sometimes rooms can get quite busy with only 2-3 girls available.
Best time to see all girls: 1 - 2 PM.Do you have any comments on Cee, Namwaan, and NeNe? Not seen, or seen but not slim like their pics, or severely photoshopped?
I guess Guitar is the obvious one for me to try.
Honestly, I have had very few gals in my 16 years here that were averse to DFK. A few yes, but very few. I would say that most enjoy the attention.I would have to guess that your sample is very unrepresentative due to liking PSE girls. I find a lot of girls not into DFK. I don't mean any where near 50% but its still significant. Even my GF is not that big on DFK unless she gets sexually aroused. She will be worried her mouth is not clean and bad breathe (a smoker).
I find a few tequilas can loosen up the inhibitions of plenty of bargirls though, making them suddenly horny and forgetting the possible boyfriend, and suddenly the DFK starts up when they loose themselves. First session with May-Lee, a stunner at Crazy House, was very ordinary with restrictions. 2nd time after a few tequilas, she was passionate, into it, and restrictions disappeared. Massive change.
Many Thai girls seem to think they should save DFK for a guy they are in love with. Others think they will get sick from it, which is technically wrong. More likely to catch a virus from being breathed on at close range.
I would have to guess that your sample is very unrepresentative due to liking PSE girls. I find a lot of girls not into DFK. I don't mean any where near 50% but its still significant. Even my GF is not that big on DFK unless she gets sexually aroused. She will be worried her mouth is not clean and bad breathe (a smoker).
I find a few tequilas can loosen up the inhibitions of plenty of bargirls though, making them suddenly horny and forgetting the possible boyfriend, and suddenly the DFK starts up when they loose themselves. First session with May-Lee, a stunner at Crazy House, was very ordinary with restrictions. 2nd time after a few tequilas, she was passionate, into it, and restrictions disappeared. Massive change.
Many Thai girls seem to think they should save DFK for a guy they are in love with. Others think they will get sick from it, which is technically wrong. More likely to catch a virus from being breathed on at close range.Actually Syz my first seven years here were strictly GoGo gals and FLs (mainly Nana Disco and Thermae). Probably racked up about 500 gals during that time. I really never had many issues with DFK. Almost all liked it or were at least good actresses. And I will add that most of my running buddies never had issues with DFK either. Amazing how we can have such different experiences. Of course during that time I was always the one to run the show. The minute the ST hotel room door would close I would be all over them like horny teenager, kissing, fondling, and the like. Often I would hear, "shower, shower," to which I would reply, "after, after." As you stated a few drinks loosens the mood and bit and I always had a drink or two with the GoGo gals and the FLs. Most were about as ready as I was when we got to the hotel, with action in the taxi more often than not. Yes, there were a few duds, but very few. Times have certainly changed. Most of the gals at that time were looking for a BF or sponsor. When they found out I lived here and we hit the room; the sales pitch was on. Now some of the good ones make so much it tends to be assembly line sex. The last thing they want is to get involved with either the sex or the dude.
Honestly, I have had very few gals in my 16 years here that were averse to DFK. A few yes, but very few. I would say that most enjoy the attention.Then you must be a so handsome man Goatscrot! Seriously though I think a lot of it has to do with chemistry and personal attraction. The ladies are human after all, and for a working girl kissing can be considered a more intimate act than giving a BJ or fucking.
If kissing is a high priority with the OP he might be better off looking for a club lady where the build up is longer, she chooses you as well as you choosing her, and better chemistry can be formed.
I can't believe the situation is so bad now that next time I will have to ask girl whether she kisses or not. This is not the service I used to get in ThailandI think we are talking about relative expectations here. There is kissing and there is kissing. I have generally not had an issue with getting some lip locking and tongue action within a session. That is all I am really looking for. But if you are talking about extended non-stop DFK like she is your long lost love that is IMO probably less likely to occur in a shop session. And if you go down on her she will likely be reluctant to kiss you directly after that unless you do the mouth wash rinse thing.
SL.
Wolvenvacht
08-23-15, 12:13
But of course, you don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. And the other side of this is that a lot of guys aren't good at pleasing their lady in bed. And a lot of guys don't even try to please their woman. Why would a woman want to have sex with her guy, when it doesn't do much for her? A P4P lady would say, it's her pay. But a married woman or a girlfriend doesn't get paid like this. Her only reason might be the guy being good in bed with her. Which quite often isn't the case. And for this reason I would say that guys are to some extent to blame for this problem. Because guys can learn to be good in bed with their ladies. It's a solvable problem. All you need is some interest and some motivation.Last time I checked, women could actually still talk! If she isn't happy with his performance, why doesn't she just say so, in a friendly way of course? You seem to assume that it is always the guy who has to "take care" for the success of sex in a relationship.
Wolvenvacht
08-23-15, 12:34
Then you must be a so handsome man Goatscrot! Seriously though I think a lot of it has to do with chemistry and personal attraction. The ladies are human after all, and for a working girl kissing can be considered a more intimate act than giving a BJ or fucking.Comparing like with like, it is my experience that I got more P4P girls do DFK in Thailand (or SE Asia in general) than in Europe.
Hookers in Europe almost never allow kissing on the lips and invariably their reason is that such is reserved for lovers only. DFK they might perhaps do for an extra fee. They seem to be able to divide "love" (with their lover only) from "sex" (with is just a job with their clients) and DFK, especially when they are paid for it, becomes part of their job somehow.
European style kissing in Thailand has for long been kind of strange for Thai girls. They just were not "in" to it and found it somewhat "icky". Mouths are for talking and eating (two favourite passtimes for Thai girls), but kissing and oral sex have to be taught to them. On the other hand, kissing does not automatically come with the cultural baggage of "love" we Westerners understand it to have. So Thai pros are more easy to add kissing to their repertoire without reserving that for their Thai boyfriends only. Unless of course they have become so westernized that kissing equals love in their minds.
Many years ago I spend about a week learning a Thai GF how to kiss, DFK and enjoy DATY and BJ. Strangely enough, kissing remained clearly linked to sex in her mind. Kissing her (and DFK even more so) really makes her horny and gets her love juices flowing. That never happend with any European girl I have known.
Last time I checked, women could actually still talk! If she isn't happy with his performance, why doesn't she just say so, in a friendly way of course? You seem to assume that it is always the guy who has to "take care" for the success of sex in a relationship.A lot of guys are so bad in bed that their woman either never has orgasm, or it happens very rarely.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a28359/orgasm-deficit/
Which is a very different situation from the way it is for guys. Guys have orgasm virtually 100% of the time. And this is why guys are usually more into sex, than women are.
How is a woman to know that her not having orgasm is a problem, when orgasm was never a part of her experience to begin with? It's not as if women are born with the knowledge that sex is supposed to be pleasant for them. Women rely on their experience to know what's normal or not. And if all of their sexual experience hasn't been that pleasant for them, then that's what becomes normal for them. They don't expect anything different from their guys. And telling their guy about it makes no sense. Why would they tell their guy about something that's "normal"?
The only way to know that something is good or bad is to have both kinds of experiences, so that you can tell the difference. And if your experience is bad every time, then this just becomes normal, and you don't know anything different.
Member #4698
08-23-15, 13:36
girls with nose jobs.... I hate these beacons on the front of the face mostly, will sometimes tolerate one, if all other things are good. I don't mind an undetectable nose job, which is less than 10% of them unfortunately.
In Thai Lakhorn (TV soapy series), in the modern day, most of the actresses have a nose job. Its very well accepted. In the old days, like 15 to 20 years ago when I watched these shows to improve my Thai understanding, very few had nose jobs, and I got used to natural beauty looks. Fortunately some older stars return sometimes. Teya who starred in 2000 series "Prissana", still looks good in Lakhorn "Seua", 15 years later. Well over 30 now.I prefer natural noses too, but I am not as opposed to a nose job as much as you are as long as it is not totally obvious and calls attention to itself and especially if as you say, "all other things are good."
A while back I reported on a friend of M's, a very sweet Baccara girl, who I used to think I would one day get around to shagging. Between my 2014 and my spring 2015 visit little Dom had a nose job that completely transformed her face so much that I did not recognize her when I first saw her again post operation. Initially she was waving at me from across the room and I had no idea who she was, LOL. I did figure it out though by the time she sprinted over to my table. Prior to the operation Dom had a cute little Thai nose. Now she sports a Tom Cruise high ridge Aquiline nose which just does not fit her round face. It looks just awful on her and sadly I can't see myself shagging her anymore. IMHO her surgeon should be sued for malpractice and I doubt she will recoup the cost of the operation from any increased business although that was the plan. She asked me if I liked her new look. What could say? I told her she looked great.
I get a kick out of the Thai soapies too. M and I like to watch her favorite shows before we boom boom. There are a lot of very attractive actresses on those shows that I would love to meet and I don't care what they cost. 555. I can usually tell who has seen the doctor and who has not, but in a lot of examples, the girls still look pretty good to me. The thing I object to most is silly cones.
Member #4698
08-23-15, 14:08
I find a few tequilas can loosen up the inhibitions of plenty of bargirls though, making them suddenly horny and forgetting the possible boyfriend, and suddenly the DFK starts up when they loose themselves. Tequila works for my gals. Two shots really warms a girl up and gets her in the mood for love. Of course some girls don't need to loosened up. Ha Ha. But I would rather buy a girl a Tequila than some sugar water. I just wish the Go Go's stocked some high quality aged 100% Blue Agave Tequila like 1921 Reposado or Casa Noble Anejo. Last trip I brought a bottle of Casa Noble with me from the USA wrapped in bubble wrap and plastic in my suitcase. The bottle made the journey intact.
Then you must be a so handsome man Goatscrot! Seriously though I think a lot of it has to do with chemistry and personal attraction. The ladies are human after all, and for a working girl kissing can be considered a more intimate act than giving a BJ or fucking..Sure there is chemistry involved, but I let's not forget Thais are very visually oriented and to the gals appearance counts for a lot. Grooming also. I am amazed at some of the punters I see out and about. I am shocked any gal would go anywhere near them.
AssLover945
08-23-15, 17:02
Do you have any comments on Cee, Namwaan, and NeNe? Not seen, or seen but not slim like their pics, or severely photoshopped?
I guess Guitar is the obvious one for me to try.I personally get a huge hard-on whenever someone says Nene. She looks different in real life than shown in the website, Maybe because she has had a haircut.
She does amazing PSE positions man! And very playful and talkative (at least talks to me. But that maybe because I have made attempts to be friendly). And may I say a very caring lady, does whatever I ask for!
Here is a pic of her.
And Guitar yes of course the tall svelte and all smily girl. God I miss her, need to go again soon.
AssLover945
08-23-15, 17:07
Both are worth a visit, but on different grounds. To cut it short, Yaya is more professional, Guitar more GF experience. I prefer Guitar.Well in my case Yaya has treated me superbly well. I will rate her as one of the highest GFE in recent months for myself. I have great vibes with Yaya. I should not compare her with Guitar.
Guitar is the bubblier one while Yaya is the one who I would rate as a very young girlfriend. Haha.
Well in my case Yaya has treated me superbly well. I will rate her as one of the highest GFE in recent months for myself. I have great vibes with Yaya. I should not compare her with Guitar.
Guitar is the bubblier one while Yaya is the one who I would rate as a very young girlfriend. Haha.I had a chat with Candy on Line, and She was very thankful to you guys and was very happy knowing that Yaya and Guitar are a star at our forum.
Anyway I have promised her to book both of them shortly.
Wolvenvacht
08-23-15, 19:54
A lot of guys are so bad in bed that their woman either never has orgasm, or it happens very rarely.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a28359/orgasm-deficit/
Which is a very different situation from the way it is for guys. Guys have orgasm virtually 100% of the time. And this is why guys are usually more into sex, than women are.
How is a woman to know that her not having orgasm is a problem, when orgasm was never a part of her experience to begin with? It's not as if women are born with the knowledge that sex is supposed to be pleasant for them.
They don't know? Then it must be that Cosmopolitan (and the vast majority of women's magazines) are only read by men.
I personally get a huge hard-on whenever someone says Nene. She looks different in real life than shown in the website, Maybe because she has had a haircut.
She does amazing PSE positions man! And very playful and talkative (at least talks to me. But that maybe because I have made attempts to be friendly). And may I say a very caring lady, does whatever I ask for!
Here is a pic of her.
And Guitar yes of course the tall svelte and all smily girl. God I miss her, need to go again soon.Is that really Guitar in the picture? Looks different.
A lot of guys are so bad in bed that their woman either never has orgasm, or it happens very rarely.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a28359/orgasm-deficit/
Which is a very different situation from the way it is for guys. Guys have orgasm virtually 100% of the time. And this is why guys are usually more into sex, than women are.I think this has more to do with the biology of procreation. Basically males need multiple shots on goal to ensure pregnancy of the female; hence the stronger desire driven by comparatively higher physical pleasure.
So blame mother nature and thousands of years of evolution, but you won't read that amongst the pandering drivel that is Cosmo. I guess the lesson for woman is they should be kissing more if they want to achieve their elusive pleasure. LOL.
SunLover
I personally get a huge hard-on whenever someone says Nene. She looks different in real life than shown in the website, Maybe because she has had a haircut.
Thanks to all for the pics. Helps me understand the degree of photo shopping and make my expectations a bit more realistic. Some girls that appear doable on website may just not measure up in real life, being excessively fussy.
I will have a look in there soon. Maybe I will still go back to Can Cam girls though, that are probably a bit prettier overall.
I haven't had a PSE session for a few months now so may succumb to that eventually.
Well in my case Yaya has treated me superbly well. I will rate her as one of the highest GFE in recent months for myself. I have great vibes with Yaya. I should not compare her with Guitar.
Guitar is the bubblier one while Yaya is the one who I would rate as a very young girlfriend. Haha.How are the bodies on Yaya, Guitar, and Nene? I really am turned off by gals who have a lot of "baby drag. ".
How are the bodies on Yaya, Guitar, and Nene? I really am turned off by gals who have a lot of "baby drag. ".Yaya has had one baby. But her body shows minimal signs of this. In fact, I initially thought she had none until I asked her, found out she had one, and then looked at the belly area more closely. But unlike my reaction to most girls who have had kids, this did not bother me at all given the truly de minimus damage..
As to her boobs, they are small but also without apparent wear and tear. Hopefully she will resist any pressure to get sillies. I started the process of trying to prevent this (by telling her her boobs were fine and don't get sillies as most men don't like them much), but I made a similar effort with Bo (while she was at Mango) and look at how successful that effort was.
A friend treated me to a night out. That included an hour at Bongkot. How we wound up there is a story in itself.
The legend, Miss Mony (aka May aka Monay) was there. I've heard wonderful things about Nana and Neena and other girls. I once had a session with Ice at Cherry, and I really wanted to have one with Mony.
We chatted a little about Ice / Lisa and Cherry and Tulip. She commented on how I knew her but she didn't know me. Such is the life of a monger's celebrity.
I was tired, even by my standards of being able to remember the dinosaurs. She was happy and enthusiastic. She was simply wonderful.
Wonderful squatting BBBJ in the shower and she just kept it up.
While she certainly does CIM, I'm not sure that she really cares for it. In any event, she transfered the deposit to a tissue (as opposed to swallowing and saying yummy) and carried on. All three holes were in play. She really is ideal.
I was out the door before I realized I hadn't tipped her, and she certainly was entitled to an extra 500. I hope to return, I want to tip her. Better late than never.
AssLover945
08-24-15, 15:11
Is that really Guitar in the picture? Looks different.Yes This is Guitar. See pic attached.
For my money, the most beautiful one at LaBelle is the-38, Nadea, who is really a stunner. Quite often, the stunners are somewhat arrogant, but Nadea was not. She was great fun and the service was awesome. She's highly recommended. The-models go for 6,000 baht and I gave her a 1,000 All, sorry to report a disappointing start to my time in Bangkok. I went to La Belle and tried Nadea. Agree with Canyon that she is one of the prettiest in line up. Besides 19 I saw who I didn't try. But I am not sure if it was me or lack of connection (believe me I tried, gave her a massage back as well) no DFK or LFK or DATY or BBBJ.
I guess YMMV. I am bit like Sygies. Sucker for good looks (natural, no plastic) and can deal with medium service. Will keep trying. If anyone can pm and share some girl contacts, will appreciate.
More later (writing from handheld).
I think this has more to do with the biology of procreation. Basically males need multiple shots on goal to ensure pregnancy of the female; hence the stronger desire driven by comparatively higher physical pleasure.
So blame mother nature and thousands of years of evolution, but you won't read that amongst the pandering drivel that is Cosmo. I guess the lesson for woman is they should be kissing more if they want to achieve their elusive pleasure. LOL.
SunLoverI agree that anatomical differences between men and women make sex a lot more pleasant for men than for women. And this is a major reason why guys want sex more than women do.
The most pleasurable zone of the woman's body is her clitoris. But normal sexual intercourse doesn't usually stimulate the woman's clitoris enough to make her orgasm. And that's why so many women seldom if ever have orgasm with their guys.
This is a physical limitation built in by nature. But unlike dumb animals, people can overcome their physical limitations, if they put their mind to it. And a good example of this is people's ability to live in cold northern climates. The human body is physically incapable of tolerating such cold temperatures. But people get around this natural limitation by making and wearing warm clothing.
It's the same thing with women's anatomical limitations for sexual pleasure. Guys aren't dumb animals to accept this as their fate. When a guy understands that his cock doesn't provide enough clitoral stimulation for his lady, then he can massage her clit with his fingers and hand, while he nails her pussy or ass with his cock. Not every sex position is good for this, of course. And that's where the guy's understanding and skill comes in. And the sexual pleasure doesn't need to be simultaneous. The guy and the woman can take turns at pleasing each other, until they both orgasm in the end. That's where cunnilingus comes in, or your well-lubricated hand-massage of the lady's pussy.
It's true that women have anatomical limitations, which make it difficult for them to enjoy sex. This is a biological adaptation to make women choosy and reluctant to have sex with guys. Because this gives women a reproductive advantage for choosing the best mate. But what is a reproductive advantage for women can be a disadvantage for guys. Because when women are choosy and reluctant to have sex, then guys don't get to have as much sex as is most advantageous for them.
And that's why guys need to go out of their way to please their women. Women's evolution is working against guys in this case. And guys need to be smart to deal with it, instead of just accepting it as their disadvantage.
It's a lot more fun to be with someone who enjoys it as much as you do. And that's why it makes a lot of sense to please your lady, even when you are paying her.
JasonBen84
08-26-15, 15:55
Same question as raised to dear OldPhart, Candy claims Mony doesn't do Anal. Please see attached. Is this Mony? I'm planning for an outcall LT. Sorry for the repeat of quest, just curious. Please advice.
I've known her from Tulip, then Snow White II, then Cherry. She's had her sillies for quite some time, certainly going back to when she worked at Snow White. Didn't have them at Tulip though, at least not when I saw her there quite a few years ago. And yes, her back door has been open for business since the Tulip days.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-26-15, 17:43
I agree that anatomical differences between men and women make sex a lot more pleasant for men than for women. And this is a major reason why guys want sex more than women do.If you take the word of an old Greek, Tiresias, who in Greek mythology was supposedly a man, then a woman, and then back to a man, women get 9 times as much pleasure in sex as men. It also appears to be confirmed by science: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/913/who-gets-the-most-pleasure-from-sex-the-man-or-the-woman.
I agree that anatomical differences between men and women make sex a lot more pleasant for men than for women. And this is a major reason why guys want sex more than women do.Absolutely not true. How many orgasms can a woman have in one hour? A man? Right. Women can have far more. The only reason sex is not pleasurable for women is the cultural taboos that men have placed upon it. Women and their sexuality have been subjugated since the advent of agriculture when we (men) decided that private property was a good thing. Women have been property ever since.
Same question as raised to dear OldPhart, Candy claims Mony doesn't do Anal. Please see attached. Is this Mony? I'm planning for an outcall LT. Sorry for the repeat of quest, just curious. Please advice.That is not Mony from Bongkot unless Mony recently quit and the same name was then assigned to another girl (this, however, is not reflected on their website). Given you referred to Candy, is it possible you are referring to a Mony at Candy Massage, which is run by Candy?
JasonBen84
08-27-15, 07:06
That is not Mony from Bongkot unless Mony recently quit and the same name was then assigned to another girl (this, however, is not reflected on their website). Given you referred to Candy, is it possible you are referring to a Mony at Candy Massage, which is run by Candy?Thanks LA Guy. Ah my bad, so you referred the Mony from Bongkot message!
Yes indeed the photo I shown is from Candy Message -Candy. I will refer to the Bongkot massage and will try Mony tonight. Hope she lives up to the performance mentioned by you and this forum.
That is not Mony from Bongkot unless Mony recently quit and the same name was then assigned to another girl (this, however, is not reflected on their website). Given you referred to Candy, is it possible you are referring to a Mony at Candy Massage, which is run by Candy?I second this. Mony in bongkot certainly takes it in the backdoor, I spent a good hour pounding away at it on Monday. Interesting update from bongkot is that cash is not working any more. I was gutted as she is a little cracker.
JasonBen84
08-27-15, 10:07
I second this. Mony in bongkot certainly takes it in the backdoor, I spent a good hour pounding away at it on Monday. Interesting update from bongkot is that cash is not working any more. I was gutted as she is a little cracker.Thanks Mate! I'm going to have Mony for overnight at my hotel to start my week long Thai fun in a awesome way. Since you said, how is Cash? Is she bubblier and fun to be with?
If you take the word of an old Greek, Tiresias, who in Greek mythology was supposedly a man, then a woman, and then back to a man, women get 9 times as much pleasure in sex as men. It also appears to be confirmed by science: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/913/who-gets-the-most-pleasure-from-sex-the-man-or-the-woman.If what you say is true, then women would be paying men for sex, instead of the other way around.
The fact is that only 57% of women consistently have orgasm, when they have sex. And it probably has something to do with their men being good in bed.
http://mic.com/articles/113334/these-are-the-new-orgasm-statistics-every-woman-should-see
If you want to know the truth, then look at the money. Who is paying whom? Because this tells you who is enjoying it more.
People can lie with their words, but they don't lie with their money.
Absolutely not true. How many orgasms can a woman have in one hour? A man? Right. Women can have far more. The only reason sex is not pleasurable for women is the cultural taboos that men have placed upon it. Women and their sexuality have been subjugated since the advent of agriculture when we (men) decided that private property was a good thing. Women have been property ever since.The woman's ability to have orgasms is totally useless, when her guy doesn't care about her pleasure, and he doesn't make much effort to make her orgasm.
The guy needs to be good in bed with her for her to enjoy it. And the fact, that only 57% of women are having regular orgasms with their guys, tells you a lot about how bad many guys are in bed with their women.
http://mic.com/articles/113334/these-are-the-new-orgasm-statistics-every-woman-should-see
It's true that women have been treated unfairly in the past. And male-dominated society punished many women for having sex outside of marriage. But this kind of thing is no longer stopping women from having sex with guys, the way it did in the past.
Women are now free to go on a fucking spree. And the only thing that's stopping them now is their lack of pleasure with guys, who are no good in bed with them.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-27-15, 17:13
If what you say is true, then women would be paying men for sex, instead of the other way around.
The fact is that only 57% of women consistently have orgasm, when they have sex. And it probably has something to do with their men being good in bed.
http://mic.com/articles/113334/these-are-the-new-orgasm-statistics-every-woman-should-see
If you want to know the truth, then look at the money. Who is paying whom? Because this tells you who is enjoying it more.
People can lie with their words, but they don't lie with their money.Lest we beat this topic to death, perhaps we can agree that men can orgasm more easily than women, but when a woman does manage to orgasm, it is much more intense and longer-lasting, and leave it at that.
Lest we beat this topic to death.............. and leave it at that.'about time says I. Many yeras ago in a book called "Ideal Marriage" the author described exactly what you have posted.
RIP.
Thanks Mate! I'm going to have Mony for overnight at my hotel to start my week long Thai fun in a awesome way. Since you said, how is Cash? Is she bubblier and fun to be with?Cash. I have no idea mate, have never had the pleasure. She was behind the counter in Bongkot on Monday without makeup or 'uniform'. I told her I wanted to fuck her in the ass, she smiled and declined saying she stopped work. Maybe she has retired or didn't appreciate my smooth chat up lines 😁128513;128513;128513;. I do find her very very attractive in an impish way but think that that ship has sailed. I had to make do with a mony-nooknik duo.
JasonBen84
08-28-15, 03:18
Cash. I have no idea mate, have never had the pleasure. She was behind the counter in Bongkot on Monday without makeup or 'uniform'. I told her I wanted to fuck her in the ass, she smiled and declined saying she stopped work. Maybe she has retired or didn't appreciate my smooth chat up lines 128513;128513;128513;. I do find her very very attractive in an impish way but think that that ship has sailed. I had to make do with a mony-nooknik duo.Indeed, Mony is a try. Had her last night. Man top notch PSE in recent times. Looks wise, she says 32 but she should be 35-36. But done sillies, awesome soft big ass. I stay near the Bangkok shop, she drop by 10 ish, without a bra in a black top. First thing she did coming into the room is grab my minion. One true champ eh. Passionately kissing, groping all over before we hit the shower. Play time in shower, DFK, nice log and wet BBJ, face fuck and CIM. Didn't swallow but she spit and spread in her boobs. Damn nasty!
Tight ass and pussy, she can squeeze the cock like a champ in both ass and pussy. I'm sure you won't last longer with a girl like her. 3 times in 1.5 hrs. And then she took me to a bar for drinks near holiday inn. That was one awesome night. Thanks to you and LAGuy for the help!
BTW, cash Tok over the ownership if I'm not wrong, and cash ass is available as well. Get Mony and you get cash as well. I'm on that direction already treat Mony well, say Ben said Hi when anyone meets her next time.
People really need to stop kissing hookers. It's just going to cause more STDs (sexually transmitted disease). Yes, tonsillitis is an STD if you transmitted it while having sex, and performing risky (kissing hookers) sexual practices. A lot of these girls don't even use condoms, as they are *asking* if you want to use one.
Cash. I have no idea mate, have never had the pleasure. She was behind the counter in Bongkot on Monday without makeup or 'uniform'. I told her I wanted to fuck her in the ass, she smiled and declined saying she stopped work. Maybe she has retired or didn't appreciate my smooth chat up lines 128513;128513;128513;. I do find her very very attractive in an impish way but think that that ship has sailed. I had to make do with a mony-nooknik duo.Can you pm me the line ID for bongkot massage so that I can chat? There is nothing in their website except phone No. To contact them, No email, no line ID.
Thanks,
Member #4591
08-28-15, 18:34
People really need to stop kissing hookers. It's just going to cause more STDs (sexually transmitted disease). Yes, tonsillitis is an STD if you transmitted it while having sex, and performing risky (kissing hookers) sexual practices. A lot of these girls don't even use condoms, as they are *asking* if you want to use one.You know I really am getting sick and tired of these lurkers who have 4 posts complaining about other punters, asking for information, but contributing absolutely nothing to our forum. Please keep your remarks to yourself and if you feel the need to open your trap , copy the post you want to complain about and post it in the safe sex thread.
Member #4591
08-28-15, 18:38
Can you pm me the line ID for bongkot massage so that I can chat? There is nothing in their website except phone No. To contact them, No email, no line ID.
Thanks,You don't need the ID mate. Just store the phone number in your contacts and then sync your contacts with the line app. As long as you have selected that setting then the shops line account will automatically appear. Hope that helps.
You know I really am getting sick and tired of these lurkers who have 4 posts complaining about other punters, asking for information, but contributing absolutely nothing to our forum. Please keep your remarks to yourself and if you feel the need to open your trap , copy the post you want to complain about and post it in the safe sex thread.I have contributed, just check my posts. I recommend a great place recently. My latest contribution is to avoid getting STDs, probably my best contribution yet. DFK is totally understandable to not provide. It's sad that you somehow feel entitled that others, both men and women who engage in P4P (and share the same diseases), should endanger their health to suit your inadequacies.
People really need to stop kissing hookers. It's just going to cause more STDs (sexually transmitted disease). Yes, tonsillitis is an STD if you transmitted it while having sex, and performing risky (kissing hookers) sexual practices. A lot of these girls don't even use condoms, as they are *asking* if you want to use one.Please click on Front Page. Then on Forum Policies and Guidelines under Quick Links. You will see that the rules require safe sex criticising posts to appear in the Safe Sex Thread only. The reason for this is many readers don't wish to read your type of posts too regularly and may not open the Safe Sex thread at all.
If you repeat offend, your posts may get deleted by Admin, or in extrene cases you could get banned from the forum.
And Guitar yes of course the tall svelte and all smily girl. God I miss her, need to go again soon.Is guitar a+? Tall svelte smiley and anal are rare, just checking my luck. I could get only a finger in most cases 😣.
Erasmushall
08-30-15, 06:47
Is guitar a+? Tall svelte smiley and anal are rare, just checking my luck. I could get only a finger in most cases .If one had to make a list of the top 10 PSE Massage Parlour Sex Performers. Who would you choose?
I would include:
Ying (Tulip).
Opor (Tulip).
Kitty? (SW).
Anyone else I forgot.
I am talking of consistent top 10 performers or top 5.
Robert
If one had to make a list of the top 10 PSE Massage Parlour Sex Performers. Who would you choose?
I would include:
Ying (Tulip).
Opor (Tulip).
Kitty? (SW).
Anyone else I forgot.
I am talking of consistent top 10 performers or top 5.
RobertI might have a bit of mongoloid gene in me. Prefer tall fair svelte, shapely ass, and shy PSE is not my type buddy. Opor from addict used be one fiery cat. Not sure if she still works there.
I don't drink much to have my head clear, so can still delude myself that I am first to a beautiful working girl.
AssLover945
08-30-15, 16:43
Is guitar a+? Tall svelte smiley and anal are rare, just checking my luck. I could get only a finger in most cases .I never tried A+ with Guitar. My advice as always "ASK" and don't be shy they have heard it all.
AssLover945
08-30-15, 16:49
Same question as raised to dear OldPhart, Candy claims Mony doesn't do Anal. Please see attached. Is this Mony? I'm planning for an outcall LT. Sorry for the repeat of quest, just curious. Please advice.This girl is not Mony, her name is Kiwi and what a girl. All of 20 year old, She is a big girl Big Ass and nice Boobs. AND my most importantly, She still enjoys sex! Get her while you can at CANDY.
http://www.candy-massage.com/ladies.html
Crocodilexp
08-31-15, 03:28
Is guitar a+? Tall svelte smiley and anal are rare, just checking my luck. I could get only a finger in most cases.
Yes, she is A+. Quite good at it too.
Is guitar a+? Tall svelte smiley and anal are rare, just checking my luck. I could get only a finger in most cases .She does A+, assuming we are talking about Guitar at Candy Massage. In fact, Candy pointed to her when I arrived and said "she does everything" and so I picked her.
However, she is not exactly svelte although at the same time not fat.
Yes, she is A+. Quite good at it too.How to be good at it? LOL. Loose or relaxed or just not stressed out by it? Maybe depends on cock size and duration?
She does A+, assuming we are talking about Guitar at Candy Massage. In fact, Candy pointed to her when I arrived and said "she does everything" and so I picked her.
However, she is not exactly svelte although at the same time not fat.Saw her last time I was in there and would not call her svelte. Opted for Yaya who is not svelte either, not by a long shot. I must say that Candy is an excellent host and that the gals are all very friendly and do their best to provide good service, but if you are more focused on looks, it probably is not the place for you. Yaya certainly gave it her all. A for effort. Her skill set is not as well developed as some of my favorite providers of the past, two of which just recently moved on, but perhaps she will improve. Some gals just have a knack for it and are in tune enough to read guys excitement levels and can play you like a violin. That is what I seek. Getting harder and harder to find. The combination of looks and performance that made the oilies so appealing in the first place is kind of well, gone.
If one had to make a list of the top 10 PSE Massage Parlour Sex Performers. Who would you choose?
I would include:
Ying (Tulip).
Opor (Tulip).
Kitty? (SW).
Anyone else I forgot.
I am talking of consistent top 10 performers or top 5.
RobertMomay in her snow days. Haven't seen her for a couple of years. Apparently she now works in Eden. Pure filth!
Momay in her snow days. Haven't seen her for a couple of years. Apparently she now works in Eden. Pure filth!She was just magnificent. One of the best ever. Perfect combination of great looks and unsurpassed performance. And as you stated so well, "Pure filth. " Exactly what I am looking for when I go to an oily.
Saw her last time I was in there and would not call her svelte. Opted for Yaya who is not svelte either, not by a long shot. I must say that Candy is an excellent host and that the gals are all very friendly and do their best to provide good service, but if you are more focused on looks, it probably is not the place for you. Yaya certainly gave it her all. A for effort. Her skill set is not as well developed as some of my favorite providers of the past, two of which just recently moved on, but perhaps she will improve. Some gals just have a knack for it and are in tune enough to read guys excitement levels and can play you like a violin. That is what I seek. Getting harder and harder to find. The combination of looks and performance that made the oilies so appealing in the first place is kind of well, gone.I agree with a lot of this, and wrote something about the skill sets at Candy's when I wrote my earlier post, but decided to delete it before posting as I didn't want to embarrass anyone. But, on reflection, and given your post, I'll go ahead with the hope Candy will read this and perhaps learn something from it.
I have been with both Yaya and Guitar, and had the same reaction to both. They are friendly, they want to please, etc. , but they seem to be lacking in training. When I go to an oily I look forward to getting a back massage that starts out hard or medium, but after a few minutes becomes soft and sexy. This latter part includes stroking with a soft touch, including my private parts, some light kissing, and hopefully then some rimming. After a while of this the girl suggests turning onto my back, at which time she continues with the soft touch, ball licking, BJ, etc.
In contrast, with both Yaya and Guitar while I was on my stomach what I got was a medium to hard massage with no attempt to arouse me. I suppose it was like Wat Po light without the clothes. Then I was told to turn around onto my back.
Interestingly, when I was on my back both did some ball licking and a bit of rimming, indicating the girls were not adverse to rimming on principle. But for this to work the customer has to get into a somewhat uncomfortable position and frankly it is much more enjoyable when this takes place while lying on one's stomach.
So Candy (if you monitor this board) teach your girls some of this, most particularly, your customers are not there for medium to hard massages, unless they are a prelude to a soft sexy massage. I guarantee if you do you will have a greater number of repeat customers. OTOH, if anyone disagrees, let's hear it.
She was just magnificent. One of the best ever. Perfect combination of great looks and unsurpassed performance. And as you stated so well, "Pure filth. " Exactly what I am looking for when I go to an oily.If we are talking about May / Mony, formerly of Tulip, she now works at Bongkot, at least as of a few days ago. Then again, after a period of working at Tulip for what seemed like a few years, she did develop the tendency to bounce around from place to place, so it wouldn't be shocking (although I would be a bit surprised) if she were now at Eden.
Then again, with all the different spellings it is possible we are taking about different girls.
If we are talking about May / Mony, formerly of Tulip, she now works at Bongkot, at least as of a few days ago. Then again, after a period of working at Tulip for what seemed like a few years, she did develop the tendency to bounce around from place to place, so it wouldn't be shocking (although I would be a bit surprised) if she were now at Eden.
Then again, with all the different spellings it is possible we are taking about different girls.Yes, different girls. I had a session with mony and nooknik in Bongkot on Monday. Haven't seen Momay in quite a while.
So Candy (if you monitor this board) teach your girls some of this, most particularly, your customers are not there for medium to hard massages, unless they are a prelude to a soft sexy massage. I guarantee if you do you will have a greater number of repeat customers. OTOH, if anyone disagrees, let's hear it.Guess we are all wired a bit differently when it comes to massage. Massage for me is between rounds 1 and 2. And I like a good hard Thai style massage, no oil, and not a lot of sexy stuff. After I flip over on my stomach, then it is time for some attention to little Goat. There were several girls at Tulip that could give a massage almost as good as a traied masseuse. Ann springs to mind. Very few have the skills these days.
JamesBkk99
08-31-15, 11:35
I might have a bit of mongoloid gene in me. Prefer tall fair svelte, shapely ass, and shy PSE is not my type buddy. Opor from addict used be one fiery cat. Not sure if she still works there.
I don't drink much to have my head clear, so can still delude myself that I am first to a beautiful working girl.Opor is now the mamasan at Addict, or co-mamasan. Get misty thinking about some of my sessions with her last year. She was beyond amazing, when she was in the mood.
Guess we are all wired a bit differently when it comes to massage. Massage for me is between rounds 1 and 2. And I like a good hard Thai style massage, no oil, and not a lot of sexy stuff. After I flip over on my stomach, then it is time for some attention to little Goat. There were several girls at Tulip that could give a massage almost as good as a traied masseuse. Ann springs to mind. Very few have the skills these days.Yes, I guess we are all wired a bit differently re what we want from a massage. I don't disagree about a massage between rounds 1 and 2 and, in fact, Pammy at Tulip, for example, goes right into that after round 1, showing a level of energy I admire. But I still like a pre-round 1 massage, but not one that takes much time before moving to the sexy stuff.
JamesBkk99
08-31-15, 14:17
I might have a bit of mongoloid gene in me. Prefer tall fair svelte, shapely ass, and shy PSE is not my type buddy. Opor from addict used be one fiery cat. Not sure if she still works there.
I don't drink much to have my head clear, so can still delude myself that I am first to a beautiful working girl.Opor is now the mamasan at Addict, or co-mamasan. Get misty thinking about some of my sessions with her last year. She was beyond amazing, when she was in the mood.
AssLover945
08-31-15, 15:51
I agree with a lot of this, and wrote something about the skill sets at Candy's when I wrote my earlier post, but decided to delete it before posting as I didn't want to embarrass anyone. But, on reflection, and given your post, I'll go ahead with the hope Candy will read this and perhaps learn something from it.
I have been with both Yaya and Guitar, and had the same reaction to both. They are friendly, they want to please, etc. , but they seem to be lacking in training. When I go to an oily I look forward to getting a back massage that starts out hard or medium, but after a few minutes becomes soft and sexy. This latter part includes stroking with a soft touch, including my private parts, some light kissing, and hopefully then some rimming. After a while of this the girl suggests turning onto my back, at which time she continues with the soft touch, ball licking, BJ, etc.
In contrast, with both Yaya and Guitar while I was on my stomach what I got was a medium to hard massage with no attempt to arouse me. I suppose it was like Wat Po light without the clothes. Then I was told to turn around onto my back.
Interestingly, when I was on my back both did some ball licking and a bit of rimming, indicating the girls were not adverse to rimming on principle. But for this to work the customer has to get into a somewhat uncomfortable position and frankly it is much more enjoyable when this takes place while lying on one's stomach.
So Candy (if you monitor this board) teach your girls some of this, most particularly, your customers are not there for medium to hard massages, unless they are a prelude to a soft sexy massage. I guarantee if you do you will have a greater number of repeat customers. OTOH, if anyone disagrees, let's hear it.Well your point may appeal to some punters here. But I have a different take on it. I take a long time for round 2, so I want to go straight into boom boom within say 10-15 minutes of getting ready, After round 1, I take time to connect with the girl if I am doing her for the first time, I do ask them about their families, kids etc in between and I like them to lay down besides me and do some pillow talk which can be emotional to plain naughty talk, infact I learned a lot of Thai words and sentences from there and the ladies love to teach and correct your grammar etc.
For me I am very happy with the ladies at Candy or cherry or SW etc. They have had their basic training and that is to be as PSE as possible & allow customers to cum as many times as they want. I do not go to these establishments for getting a massage, I go there for some action and I get that. If I want a massage, I go to Healthland. ,. Just my POV, just saying YMMV!
La Guy,
Your post makes me laugh. You can train the girls yourself to your special requirements. Most Oily girls are not trying to turn you on while on stomach. They are not in hurry to get to the sex.
I say to them we will do special first and massage later if any time left. I don't actually like real massage at all. Just a bullshit thing to me.
Jimmy Boy 99
08-31-15, 20:57
La Guy,
Your post makes me laugh. You can train the girls yourself to your special requirements. Most Oily girls are not trying to turn you on while on stomach. They are not in hurry to get to the sex.
I say to them we will do special first and massage later if any time left. I don't actually like real massage at all. Just a bullshit thing to me.I don't recall ever getting a massage at an oily or soapy. If there is a massage, it's what I give them to warm them up for sex. If they mention giving me a massage, I tell them I can get one for 300 Baht, so I'm not paying Baht 2000-2600 or more for one from them.
La Guy,
Your post makes me laugh. You can train the girls yourself to your special requirements. Most Oily girls are not trying to turn you on while on stomach. They are not in hurry to get to the sex.
I say to them we will do special first and massage later if any time left. I don't actually like real massage at all. Just a bullshit thing to me.Syzygies, here I previously thought you were an experienced and knowledgeable monger, but laugh away in your ignorance if it makes you feel good. I've been going to oilies for more than ten years, would estimate I have been with at least fifty oily massage girls, including at Tulip, Barons, Snow White, Mango, Victoria, and Cherry, and what I described is what I regularly got in the past as a matter of course, and often get presently. It is what the girls were in the past trained to do, and many these days still do (e. G. , Pammy last week at Tulip).
Now if your point was that many men rush to the "big event" and forego a sexy massage at the beginning, that would be legitimate as I have known men who opt out of the initial massage. But if your point is something else, like that oily girls generally will not try to turn you on while you are on your stomach, usually including with rimming, you are ignorant about this, which you in substance admit when you say you tell the girls not to give you a massage at the beginning. I suppose your knowledge about what the girls do during the initial massage, which is so reliable in your own mind that you deem it appropriate to "laugh" at my post, is somehow divined from the clouds given you admit you don't even partake in an initial massage.
Incidentally, I have never gotten the same sort of sexy massage, particularly with rimming and so forth, between rounds 1 and 2, only before round 1. I guess that is how they are trained.
It, of course, is fine for people here to respond to my post by saying they really don't care whether the girls are trained to give a sexy massage at the beginning of the session because they don't partake in the initial massage anyway. But to say, as you do, that you typically shun an initial massage, while claiming I am wrong about what it typically entails, is disordered thinking..
Member #4591
09-01-15, 03:57
Now now boys. I can't believe people are arguing about whether or not a massage at the beginning of an oily session is the norm. La Guy you are just too dam sensitive and Syzgies you often make comments that are really not needed. I think the best idea would be to meet up for a 300 Baht massage and kiss and make up. Just a joke to get you too to quit. Both you guys have a wealth of knowledge to contribute to the forum So just contribute so we can all learn from you two and stop bickering about stupid stuff.
Incidentally, I have never gotten the same sort of sexy massage, particularly with rimming and so forth, between rounds 1 and 2, only before round 1. I guess that is how they are trained.The good ones can change on the fly according to the customers wishes. I never take a massage before round 1, preferring to get "right to the action. " However, I find that a good firm Thai massage between rounds relaxes me and lets me recharge for round 2, which if the gal is good enough will be a BBBJCIM. As I stated the good ones will "monitor and adjust" according to the wants of the customer. All the old Tulip gals were magnificent at this. Plus they could all give a pretty good massage. A few I would put up against many of the "real" massage gals out there.
Well your point may appeal to some punters here. But I have a different take on it. I take a long time for round 2, so I want to go straight into boom boom within say 10-15 minutes of getting ready, After round 1, I take time to connect with the girl if I am doing her for the first time, I do ask them about their families, kids etc in between and I like them to lay down besides me and do some pillow talk which can be emotional to plain naughty talk, infact I learned a lot of Thai words and sentences from there and the ladies love to teach and correct your grammar etc.
For me I am very happy with the ladies at Candy or cherry or SW etc. They have had their basic training and that is to be as PSE as possible & allow customers to cum as many times as they want. I do not go to these establishments for getting a massage, I go there for some action and I get that. If I want a massage, I go to Healthland. ,. Just my POV, just saying YMMV!Regarding massages at Healthland vs. the PSE oilies I think we are talking about apples and oranges here. Although I have never had a massage at Healthland, based on what I have heard about the place I think it is unlikely the girls there do rimming, for example, during the massage. It used to be fairly standard at places like Barons, Tulip, Mango, and Snow White, but it seems these days perhaps a bit less so.
Regarding massages at Healthland vs. the PSE oilies I think we are talking about apples and oranges here. Although I have never had a massage at Healthland, based on what I have heard about the place I think it is unlikely the girls there do rimming, for example, during the massage. It used to be fairly standard at places like Barons, Tulip, Mango, and Snow White, but it seems these days perhaps a bit less so.I have been to Healthland a few times and it was completely legit each time. I wasnt looking for anything more so didn't even try but, there wasnt even a hint that anything more was available.
If we are talking about May / Mony, formerly of Tulip, she now works at Bongkot, at least as of a few days ago. Then again, after a period of working at Tulip for what seemed like a few years, she did develop the tendency to bounce around from place to place, so it wouldn't be shocking (although I would be a bit surprised) if she were now at Eden.
Then again, with all the different spellings it is possible we are taking about different girls.This has to be Monay, surely?
OMG that girl was amazing. If it is her, I am so grateful for the update on her whereabouts. Only ever went with her once whilst she was at Tulip, and then on my next trip she had moved on.
Back in Bangkok in early October and will definitely try to see her!
Syzygies, here I previously thought you were an experienced and knowledgeable monger, but laugh away in your ignorance if it makes you feel good. I've been going to oilies for more than ten years, would estimate I have been with at least fifty oily massage girls, including at Tulip, Barons, Snow White, Mango, Victoria, and Cherry, and what I described is what I regularly got in the past as a matter of course, and often get presently. It is what the girls were in the past trained to do, and many these days still do (e. G. , Pammy last week at Tulip).
Now if your point was that many men rush to the "big event" and forego a sexy massage at the beginning, that would be legitimate as I have known men who opt out of the initial massage. But if your point is something else, like that oily girls generally will not try to turn you on while you are on your stomach, usually including with rimming, you are ignorant about this, which you in substance admit when you say you tell the girls not to give you a massage at the beginning. I suppose your knowledge about what the girls do during the initial massage, which is so reliable in your own mind that you deem it appropriate to "laugh" at my post, is somehow divined from the clouds given you admit you don't even partake in an initial massage.
Incidentally, I have never gotten the same sort of sexy massage, particularly with rimming and so forth, between rounds 1 and 2, only before round 1. I guess that is how they are trained.
It, of course, is fine for people here to respond to my post by saying they really don't care whether the girls are trained to give a sexy massage at the beginning of the session because they don't partake in the initial massage anyway. But to say, as you do, that you typically shun an initial massage, while claiming I am wrong about what it typically entails, is disordered thinking..I was thinking of Oilies in general. The shops you mention are probably all PSE shops that work differently.
I am not indeed experienced in massages at PSE shops. In fact I never had a massage at a PSE shop at all. There was never time for that or I prefered to just rest after a sex workout and allow the girl to rest since time remaining was short.
I have experienced massages in non PSE shops so that is where my experience comes from. This was not a good experience generally. Most of these massages were of little interest to me.
Naturally the other poster mentioning Healthland for a real massage, was not referring to a place for sex play. I thought that was only too obvious. Many guys like a real massage and don't go to a PSE shop for that.
I also thought is was strange to criticise a PSE shop girl whose massage procedure was not exactly to your personal specifications. In fact you wanted a sex play semi massage thing which is not really a massage at all. Like the other guy, I go to a PSE Oily for full on sex. Massage no.
Your assumption seemed to be that whatever you like, for a procedure at a PSE, must be the correct one that should be provided, and girls will all have been trained to give precisely the same.
As Goatscroat points out, the very best girls could adapt to each customers likes and needs, once she finds out what they are. She will have to be told or learn that gradually. Its not pure instinct to know exactly what each customer needs. I do tell them or sometimes I just start doing things, as I lead rather than follow. I have trained plenty of girls in special things I like. E. g. To brush tits and nipples on my balls while giving the blowjob. Most don't use this manoeuvre without being told. Of course only works if tits are big enough.
Some PSE shop girls may be massage experts too, but its unrealistic to think they will all be good at it. Many of us just don't care if the girl has any massage ability or not.
If a PSE shop girl gives a non sexy massage, it maybe because she comes from a more regular Oily where I have expereinced many non sexy massages.
So apologies for considering standard practice in normal average Oily MPs. PSE shops don't dominate my visits any more becaise the girls just aren't pretty enough for me, and as I aaid, I never take massage in PSE shop at all. In Tulip in the past it was always sex from start to finish.
Is every PSE shop girl trained to give rimming? Not in my experience. I don't recall receiving it that often. Maybe it has to be requested. However I never asked for it. Do girls understand the word "rimming"? I don't know since I don't speak English to girls and I don't know if Thais have any special word for it other than the literally explicit "lick asshole". I perform rimming on most girls unless they obviously want to dodge it. I receive it far less often, even in PSE shops.
I was thinking of Oilies in general. The shops you mention are probably all PSE shops that work differently.
I am not indeed experienced in massages at PSE shops. In fact I never had a massage at a PSE shop at all. There was never time for that or I prefered to just rest after a sex workout and allow the girl to rest since time remaining was short.
I have experienced massages in non PSE shops so that is where my experience comes from. This was not a good experience generally. Most of these massages were of little interest to me.
Naturally the other poster mentioning Healthland for a real massage, was not referring to a place for sex play. I thought that was only too obvious. Many guys like a real massage and don't go to a PSE shop for that.
I also thought is was strange to criticise a PSE shop girl whose massage procedure was not exactly to your personal specifications. In fact you wanted a sex play semi massage thing which is not really a massage at all. Like the other guy, I go to a PSE Oily for full on sex. Massage no.
Your assumption seemed to be that whatever you like, for a procedure at a PSE, must be the correct one that should be provided, and girls will all have been trained to give precisely the same.
As Goatscroat points out, the very best girls could adapt to each customers likes and needs, once she finds out what they are. She will have to be told or learn that gradually. Its not pure instinct to know exactly what each customer needs. I do tell them or sometimes I just start doing things, as I lead rather than follow. I have trained plenty of girls in special things I like. E. g. To brush tits and nipples on my balls while giving the blowjob. Most don't use this manoeuvre without being told. Of course only works if tits are big enough.
Some PSE shop girls may be massage experts too, but its unrealistic to think they will all be good at it. Many of us just don't care if the girl has any massage ability or not.
If a PSE shop girl gives a non sexy massage, it maybe because she comes from a more regular Oily where I have expereinced many non sexy massages.
So apologies for considering standard practice in normal average Oily MPs. PSE shops don't dominate my visits any more becaise the girls just aren't pretty enough for me, and as I aaid, I never take massage in PSE shop at all. In Tulip in the past it was always sex from start to finish.
Is every PSE shop girl trained to give rimming? Not in my experience. I don't recall receiving it that often. Maybe it has to be requested. However I never asked for it. Do girls understand the word "rimming"? I don't know since I don't speak English to girls and I don't know if Thais have any special word for it other than the literally explicit "lick asshole". I perform rimming on most girls unless they obviously want to dodge it. I receive it far less often, even in PSE shops.To answer one of your specific questions, I never have asked for rimming and never needed to. What happens is the girl and I leave the initial shower, I say I would like an oil massage first (or sometimes the girl asks me first), and then I lie down on my stomach on the bed and play the role of a beached whale for a few minutes. That is it.
For whatever reason, the girls would do rimming during the initial massage, but did not (I suppose unless asked, which I never did) do so during the between rounds massage even if at one point they were trying to arouse you for the second round. I found this curious, but that is the way it has always been.
To put some substance on this, here is a list off the top of my head of some of the girls who then proceeded to give me a medium / hard massage for about five minutes, then a soft sexy massage followed by rimming, with the girl then telling me to turn over (there is a small chance my memory is wrong and one or two of these girls did not do exactly what I am saying, but I doubt it). This sequence was extremely similar across all these girls:
Fa, Snow White ("SW").
Creme, SW.
Grace, Victoria.
We, Baron / Tulip.
Cat, Tulip.
Teena, Tulip.
Jane, Tulip.
Or, Tulip.
Pammy, Tulip.
See, Tulip.
Bo, Mango (although after becoming famous, sometimes avoided the rimming).
Amy, Mango.
Ice, Mango.
Bo, Cherry (fairly certain she did rimming as part of the massage).
April, SW, now Bongkot (fairly certain she dd rimming as part of the massage).
June, Tulip.
Nestle, Tulip.
May, Tulip then Snow White, now Bongkot.
Fa, Tulip.
Pim, Tulip.
There are many more but these are the ones that come to mind and whose names I can remember.
At least during the time around 2005-2008, and probably after as well, most girls at Tulip came from Nakon Phanom, and from what I understand when they first arrived they slept on the premises (although this latter information is based on hearsay). Senior girls would then train them and it was not uncommon for the senior girls to ask trusted customers whether they wanted to do a three-some with a senior girl and a new girl in training (this was one way the training worked). I have read accounts of the senior girl barking out instructions during these training sessions of what the new girl should do at various points (I'm not enamored with three-somes so never participated as a training "guinea pig") . As a result of this system, the girls (with the exception of those who could not be well-trained) performed similarly, including during the initial massage.
Later, Snow White started up and a couple of the Tulip girls went there and trained the Snow White girls. Similarly for Mango. And Victoria. And I believe Cherry as well. Bongkot has a couple of ex-Tulip trainers I believe, although they were at some other shops after leaving Tulip and before joining Bongkot.
However, some of these second-generation shops (actually third-generation because Baron's preceded Tulip) have lost some of their original trainers, and it seems the level of service and presumably training has become less consistent as a result. I had become accustomed to a certain level of service at PSE shops previously, this was given as a matter of course at PSE shops (without having to ask for it at all). I have, however, very recently noticed that at least at some PSE shops this level of service (or, if one prefers, type of service) can no longer be relied upon.
My preference in this regard is to receive the same type of service that has been routinely given at the PSE shops, and still is to a lesser extent. I'm not asking for anything more, or anything less and to the extent this represents a personal preference, it is a preference that has resulted from receiving this type of service routinely for over a decade without ever having to ask for it. As I noted earlier, I had this type of service at Tulip last week and I did nothing but ask for an oily massage and then lie on my stomach. The girl did the rest, following in what is now a more than decade-long tradition of what service at a PSE shop entails (but, again, a tradition that it is beginning to seem is no longer uniformly followed).
To answer one of your specific questions, I never have asked for rimming and never needed to. What happens is the girl and I leave the initial shower, I say I would like an oil massage first (or sometimes the girl asks me first), and then I lie down on my stomach on the bed and play the role of a beached whale for a few minutes. That is it.
For whatever reason, the girls would do rimming during the initial massage, but did not (I suppose unless asked, which I never did) do so during the between rounds massage even if at one point they were trying to arouse you for the second round. I found this curious, but that is the way it has always been.
To put some substance on this, here is a list off the top of my head of some of the girls who then proceeded to give me a medium / hard massage for about five minutes, then a soft sexy massage followed by rimming, with the girl then telling me to turn over (there is a small chance my memory is wrong and one or two of these girls did not do exactly what I am saying, but I doubt it). This sequence was extremely similar across all these girls:
Fa, Snow White ("SW").
Creme, SW.
Grace, Victoria.
We, Baron / Tulip.
Cat, Tulip.
Teena, Tulip.
Jane, Tulip.
Or, Tulip.
Pammy, Tulip.
See, Tulip.
Bo, Mango (although after becoming famous, sometimes avoided the rimming).
Amy, Mango.
Ice, Mango.
Bo, Cherry (fairly certain she did rimming as part of the massage).
April, SW, now Bongkot (fairly certain she dd rimming as part of the massage).
June, Tulip.
Nestle, Tulip.
May, Tulip then Snow White, now Bongkot.
Fa, Tulip.
Pim, Tulip.
There are many more but these are the ones that come to mind and whose names I can remember.
At least during the time around 2005-2008, and probably after as well, most girls at Tulip came from Nakon Phanom, and from what I understand when they first arrived they slept on the premises (although this latter information is based on hearsay). Senior girls would then train them and it was not uncommon for the senior girls to ask trusted customers whether they wanted to do a three-some with a senior girl and a new girl in training (this was one way the training worked). I have read accounts of the senior girl barking out instructions during these training sessions of what the new girl should do at various points (I'm not enamored with three-somes so never participated as a training "guinea pig") . As a result of this system, the girls (with the exception of those who could not be well-trained) performed similarly, including during the initial massage.
Later, Snow White started up and a couple of the Tulip girls went there and trained the Snow White girls. Similarly for Mango. And Victoria. And I believe Cherry as well. Bongkot has a couple of ex-Tulip trainers I believe, although they were at some other shops after leaving Tulip and before joining Bongkot.
However, some of these second-generation shops (actually third-generation because Baron's preceded Tulip) have lost some of their original trainers, and it seems the level of service and presumably training has become less consistent as a result. I had become accustomed to a certain level of service at PSE shops previously, this was given as a matter of course at PSE shops (without having to ask for it at all). I have, however, very recently noticed that at least at some PSE shops this level of service (or, if one prefers, type of service) can no longer be relied upon.
My preference in this regard is to receive the same type of service that has been routinely given at the PSE shops, and still is to a lesser extent. I'm not asking for anything more, or anything less and to the extent this represents a personal preference, it is a preference that has resulted from receiving this type of service routinely for over a decade without ever having to ask for it. As I noted earlier, I had this type of service at Tulip last week and I did nothing but ask for an oily massage and then lie on my stomach. The girl did the rest, following in what is now a more than decade-long tradition of what service at a PSE shop entails (but, again, a tradition that it is beginning to seem is no longer uniformly followed).Great post. Felt a bit nostalgic reading that list of names, most of whom I had the pleasure on enjoying on many occasions. Methinks training is a rare thing these days, even at some of the old school PSE places. One gal who just "retired" from one of them told me that training of the new girls amounts to almost nothing.
I too have been frequenting the oilies for nigh on a decade now and I miss the service we received in the "good ole days. " No matter who you took, you knew it was going to be up to a certain standard. And just as important as you stated, you did not have to ask for it. Saeng's would say, "All ladies do everything. " And that was spot on. I really dislike having to ask. "Hey, will she lick my a* I find that kind of crass really.
Nowadays it's a crap shoot at most places.
Great post. Felt a bit nostalgic reading that list of names, most of whom I had the pleasure on enjoying on many occasions. Methinks training is a rare thing these days, even at some of the old school PSE places. One gal who just "retired" from one of them told me that training of the new girls amounts to almost nothing.
I too have been frequenting the oilies for nigh on a decade now and I miss the service we received in the "good ole days. " No matter who you took, you knew it was going to be up to a certain standard. And just as important as you stated, you did not have to ask for it. Saeng's would say, "All ladies do everything. " And that was spot on. I really dislike having to ask. "Hey, will she lick my a* I find that kind of crass really.
Nowadays it's a crap shoot at most places.Thanks for the kind words and sharing some of your memories. For whatever reason, I too would find it crass and a bit embarrassing to ask for rimming and I never have asked for it. In fact, I used to be a bit embarrassed to ask whether a girl did anal, which some, almost certainly a minority until recently, of the PSE girls did not do. However, now that many of the PSE shops adopt the term A+ to describe this, and advertise it as such on their websites, I have little embarrassment asking which girls do A+.
I mention this because it brings to mind what I considered a humorous thing that happened during my recent session with Yaya. I had already gone two rounds to completion with her, rested a bit, and all of a sudden she pointed her ass in my direction, turned her face around to me, and asked "A+?" essentially trying to get me to go for another round. At least I found her use of that terminology amusing in that context.
But there is another point that follows from this. It is precisely because Yaya and Guitar were so willing to try to please that training of the sort that used to be routine at PSE shops could really up their game. Basically, they have raw talent and good attitudes, but some PSE-style training could bring their performance to a higher level. And frankly, it should not be up to the customer to provide it.
LA Guy,
It starts to make more sense now. I see you asked for a massage first.
Standard procedure in a PSE shop for me was a BBBJ starts in the shower. On the bed straight into sex play and sex. Never commencing with a massage. If a girl offers me a massage first up, I would not have been impressed.
I have not tried any of the PSE girls you mentioned. I had my favourites but different girls and largely based on looks first up and based on performance for repeats.
DwayneJohnson
09-03-15, 19:35
Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?
I have tried Victoria, Taragon, Copa Cabana and Emanuellle so far but did not find girls listed except in case of Taragon where all girls were pretty hot.
Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?
I have tried Victoria, Taragon, Copa Cabana and Emanuellle so far but did not find girls listed except in case of Taragon where all girls were pretty hot.Normally Tarragon is spelled with double letter-R I guess in English.
I did not recognise Taragon so looked it up. It appears (Google Maps) to be either a funny English approximation or a new name for Tharnthong (paired with soapy section at one point called "Selene" near MengJai intersection that I have visited before a small number of times. Its a very Thai oriented place. Has a Soapy oriented section and an Oily massage oriented section, a bit like Nataree has two sections. I thought I was the only Farang on ISG to ever go there. LOL.
In former times this place was called Maleena. Google Maps still shows the Tharnthong sign in Thai writing.
http://www.tharnthong.com/
Its possible the Tharnthong line up is above average, if attending at the right time, however I never managed to get a girl that was so good, I needed to keep returning for her.
Some bootylicious ladies listed on site. How legit is this? Anyone has experience?
Thai Models probably lists girls that were really once at the place, although they rely of the establishment supplying the pics to be honest.
Pics are photo shopped. Many of the hottest girls are hard to find. May work very little or have left the place long ago. I have recognised some girls shown though.
I also had a great deal of problem finding any of them after making a short list of my favourite 20 girls pics from various sites and going to the establishments looking for them. Victoria was particularly disappointing in terms of line up well below standard of the pics.
I went to an Emanuelle Christmas party many years ago, so I know they once has a few good looking girls. However the line up has dwindled a lot, and 90% have bad nose jobs now, plus maybe tit jobs as well.
Many places have seriously declined compared to say 15 years ago. Actually the biggest decline in Soapies probably came when Thaksin came to power in 2001, as all the non-Thai and low age girls got cleared out. Most soapies went downhill steadily since then.
Utopia is an example of a once great club, that is in its dying stages. Emanuelle line up is vastly smaller too. Nataree is an exception still going strong. La Belle was envisaged to be a large successful club when it was built, but never reached its potential. I still miss its predecessor Mona Lisa, even though was a known rip off place (for newbies).
It would be nice if we had access to real pics of girls that really work there. Never going to happen.
The stunning Gaew still appears on the Pink Massage web site. No incentive to take her off even though she left there long ago. So yeh, the Oilies do it too. Lots of massively inflated line ups on web sites.
Normally Tarragon is spelled with double letter-R I guess in English.
I did not recognise Taragon so looked it up. It appears (Google Maps) to be either a funny English approximation or a new name for Tharnthong (paired with soapy section at one point called "Selene" near MengJai intersection that I have visited before a small number of times. Its a very Thai oriented place. Has a Soapy oriented section and an Oily massage oriented section, a bit like Nataree has two sections. I thought I was the only Farang on ISG to ever go there. LOL.
In former times this place was called Maleena. Google Maps still shows the Tharnthong sign in Thai writing.
http://www.tharnthong.com/
Its possible the Tharnthong line up is above average, if attending at the right time, however I never managed to get a girl that was so good, I needed to keep returning for her.Syzygies,
Seen the website seems quite interesting. Looks like very luxurious ambience, good service with quality stuff and that too quite cheap. Google map shows it is only 10 kms from Nana.
Any more detailed review about the services and so called models? Do they allow multi pop session, do they allow A+? Are the rates all inclusive or you need to pay separately for extra services. Can they communicate in English?
Thanks,
.... For whatever reason, I too would find it crass and a bit embarrassing to ask for rimming and I never have asked for it. In fact, I used to be a bit embarrassed to ask whether a girl did anal, which some, almost certainly a minority until recently, of the PSE girls did not do. However, now that many of the PSE shops adopt the term A+ to describe this, and advertise it as such on their websites, I have little embarrassment asking which girls do A+. ....
I'd say that your kind of embarrassment and shyness with the ladies is lot more common than you think.
Because the lady is basically your hostess, and you are her guest. Being a guest means that you don't just barge in and start asking for things that you want. You wait to be invited to do this and that. Because this is the polite thing to do. Such politeness is so ingrained in people's minds, that they do this every time.
It's like when you are a guest in a stranger's home and you feel hungry, then you don't just go to the fridge and start eating whatever you want. You wait to be invited. And if your hostess doesn't invite you, then you just wait patiently and go away hungry. That's what most people would do.
And that's what happens with many massage ladies and their guys. The guy feels like a guest with the lady. She is his hostess in her home for the day, so to say. This guy doesn't feel free to ask her for anything, just like any polite guest. He needs her to invite him to do this and that with her. Or else he feels like he is barging in and being impolite.
Of course, there are exceptions to this rule. Because not every guy is polite. Some guys don't have any problem with being rude. And even if you are polite, then you might start feeling more at home with your massage lady in her massage place, after you come to see her several times.
And the lesson massage ladies need to learn from this is that when their guy is reserved and shy, then they need to invite him to do things with them. Or else this guy will go away unhappy, just like a hungry guest goes away, when he isn't invited to eat.
This isn't so much about sexual training, as it is about social understanding. The lady needs to understand that she is the sexy-hostess, and the guy is her cocky-guest. Which means that she needs to invite the guy to take her in this position or that position for a ride. And if she is okay with the guy taking her ass, then she should also invite him for some A+. She needs to do this to make him feel welcome with her. Or else he won't feel welcome and probably will never come back.
And of course making the guy feel welcome is more than just the lady being good in bed. How she parts her company with the guy is important too. If the lady kisses the guy on the cheek, after he puts away his dick, then chances are good that he will come to see her again. Because he will feel so welcome with her.
One quick question. I am coming in on a late flight and won't hit my hotel until at least 1 AM. I'll be staying on Soi 8. Will I be able to find a massage shop open anywhere in the area? I would prefer on Soi 8 but crossing over to Soi 11 is not a problem either. I'm am not looking for oily / sex shop massage but a decent rub with a possible happy ending but emphasizing the massage to work out the kinks of a long flight. Any chance I'll find something open?
Thanks,
Pogo.
Any more detailed review about the services and so called models? Do they allow multi pop session, do they allow A+? Are the rates all inclusive or you need to pay separately for extra services. Can they communicate in English?
Thanks,I wrote reviews before. No idea what the dates were.
Most of your other questions are silly really, but we can forgive you if you haven't much Soapy experience. I speak Thai very well, so I have no idea if they speak English. Its not a requirement in very Thai oriented places. You don't go looking for A+ in Thai oriented Soapies, and multi pops is a bit strange also but girl dependent, and I am sure tip dependent. Soapies always have all in pricing these days. Many years ago, you could get a Booran (real Thai style) massage for one fee, and tip girl extra 1 K for sex, but those times are long ago, I think. Once worked that way at Chaopraya 2.
Based on your questions, you should stick to PSE Oily shops or Annies, Dr. BJ Nuru, in my opinion.
Member #4591
09-05-15, 09:12
One quick question. I am coming in on a late flight and won't hit my hotel until at least 1 AM. I'll be staying on Soi 8. Will I be able to find a massage shop open anywhere in the area? I would prefer on Soi 8 but crossing over to Soi 11 is not a problem either. I'm am not looking for oily / sex shop massage but a decent rub with a possible happy ending but emphasizing the massage to work out the kinks of a long flight. Any chance I'll find something open?
Thanks,
Pogo.Your best bet is to book a massage girl in advance from one of the oily or soapy shops. She will meet you at your hotel and do whatever you want. If all you want is a good massage and HJ then she will do that. If you change your mind and opt for full service after the massage she will do that. The only issue for you might be the rate. The shop will charge you the standard outcall rate whether full service or massage and HJ is offered.
Another option is there are a couple of shops open late on lower suk between Soi 3 and Soi 7 but there is a mix of ladies and ladyboys and for this reason I have always stayed away.
Finally you could go to Soi 11. There are many small massage shops open in the massage Arcade. They all offer whatever services you want. A mix of ladyboys and real ladies as well so I have never partaken during the night but did have a good experience there during the day.
Your best bet is to book a massage girl in advance from one of the oily or soapy shops. She will meet you at your hotel and do whatever you want. If all you want is a good massage and HJ then she will do that. If you change your mind and opt for full service after the massage she will do that. The only issue for you might be the rate. The shop will charge you the standard outcall rate whether full service or massage and HJ is offered.
Another option is there are a couple of shops open late on lower suk between Soi 3 and Soi 7 but there is a mix of ladies and ladyboys and for this reason I have always stayed away.
Finally you could go to Soi 11. There are many small massage shops open in the massage Arcade. They all offer whatever services you want. A mix of ladyboys and real ladies as well so I have never partaken during the night but did have a good experience there during the day.Thanks,
I'll probably cruise the arcade. I just wasn't sure if they would be open that late as I am usually an early monger. I've never had a problem with the LBs there. My radar is pretty good and if I am in doubt, I just ask. So far every massage girl I've had in the arcade was born that way!
Cunning Stunt
09-05-15, 17:53
Thinking of arranging an outcall from Mango. Prae and Mud stand out and both are A+ but as is the won't of these places, the photos appear to be heavily photoshopped. Do either of these girls remotely resemble their images and if so, which is the prettier (highly subjective I know) and more importantly, who gives the better service? If anyone has experience of either, or both (maybe at the same time), your help and advice would be welcomed.
Thinking of arranging an outcall from Mango. Prae and Mud stand out and both are A+ but as is the won't of these places, the photos appear to be heavily photoshopped. Do either of these girls remotely resemble their images and if so, which is the prettier (highly subjective I know) and more importantly, who gives the better service? If anyone has experience of either, or both (maybe at the same time), your help and advice would be welcomed.Mud is an amazing performer, but she has a very bad case of "mommy body. " That is why I never took her a second time. One of my pet peeves is I really dislike "baby drag" on a gal. My take on Prae is that she goes through the motions pretty well, but with very little fire.
I was in Bangkok back in 2007 and I didn't know ANYTHING about how soapies or oilies worked back then. But somehow I remember strolling into a Soapie, I don't remember the name of the place though. I remember getting in a tub and the girl basically soaped me down and washed me, then we headed over to a bed where I thought the sex would come. For some reason because of the language barrier, I couldn't understand but we ended up not having sex. Is this normally how Soapies work? Or did I just get really bad service? I don't mean to boast but could it have been she saw the size of my shlong and didn't want to do it?
If it was bad service, would there be any point in telling the mammasan / pappasan?
Cunning Stunt
09-06-15, 04:35
Mud is an amazing performer, but she has a very bad case of "mommy body. " That is why I never took her a second time. One of my pet peeves is I really dislike "baby drag" on a gal. My take on Prae is that she goes through the motions pretty well, but with very little fire.Cheers for that. I'm not really into crinkly tums either although if the service is exceptional, I could maybe put up with it. Amazing how they have hidden that on all her gallery pics. Who would you recommend for performance and looks (any oily but preferably one that offers outcalls)?
I was in Bangkok back in 2007 and I didn't know ANYTHING about how soapies or oilies worked back then. But somehow I remember strolling into a Soapie, I don't remember the name of the place though. I remember getting in a tub and the girl basically soaped me down and washed me, then we headed over to a bed where I thought the sex would come. For some reason because of the language barrier, I couldn't understand but we ended up not having sex. Is this normally how Soapies work? Or did I just get really bad service? I don't mean to boast but could it have been she saw the size of my shlong and didn't want to do it?
If it was bad service, would there be any point in telling the mammasan / pappasan?Where was your Soapy? Did the girl get undressed and into the tub with you? There are places that do not have sex but a bed is always an indicator that sex should be available. How much did you pay? The amount paid would clearly indicate if sex was included or not.
In some places in the past, sex was not included in the base price, so you would not get sex unless you asked for it and paid the girl an extra tip. She would say how much.
You can tell the papasan you got no sex. I don't see that it would help you much.
Yes there are plenty of dick scared girls around in Soapies. If you really are a Godzilla, you might be better off picking an older girl who has a baby already, and a Soapy with predominantly non-Thai customers. No guarantee, but they are less likely to be dick scared. Even could ask the Papasan which girls like big dicks. Annies maybe a good venue for you. The mamasan could ask the girls who like big dicks to stand up. I have never had a bad service at Annies yet at most other Soapies it is hit and miss. The disadvantage at Annies is not many pretty girls, and other ISGers really bash Annies, because they just love shit dumping exercises. Lets be clear though Annies is not my favourite place and have only been there a few times for very specific girls. For me the place matters little. It's merely about the target girls.
This isn't so much about sexual training, as it is about social understanding. The lady needs to understand that she is the sexy-hostess, and the guy is her cocky-guest. Which means that she needs to invite the guy to take her in this position or that position for a ride. And if she is okay with the guy taking her ass, then she should also invite him for some A+. She needs to do this to make him feel welcome with her. Or else he won't feel welcome and probably will never come back.
I might be a little shy. LOL I get A+ very rarely, since I could count on one hand the number of times a girl invited me to take her ass, despite many visits to Tulip, Mango, Snow White and Cherry.
I suspect that not many girls are really into it that much, especially if they see your size and know you like fucking for a long time before cumming. I once tried jamming three fingers into my own, just to see how difficult it was. I could not get it in past the knuckles, so I can easily understand that anal can be not at all pleasurable for most girls. Guys should all try getting a dildo up the ass so they know what it is really like before expecting too much from girls.
To get anal regularly, I would definitely need to request it, and even then I suspect quite a lot of refusals. I did suggest it once with a girl who did not want to fuck due to her period, and knowing she offered it sometimes.
I still have the receipt cause I charged it, September 6, 2007. Some place called embassy cocktail lounge, New Phetburt 39, Bangkok. I paid 3150 baht. Anyone know of this place? I tried google mapping this place but it looks like a hostel now. Not surprising since this was 8 years ago.
Where was your Soapy? Did the girl get undressed and into the tub with you? There are places that do not have sex but a bed is always an indicator that sex should be available. How much did you pay? The amount paid would clearly indicate if sex was included or not.
In some places in the past, sex was not included in the base price, so you would not get sex unless you asked for it and paid the girl an extra tip. She would say how much.
You can tell the papasan you got no sex. I don't see that it would help you much.
Yes there are plenty of dick scared girls around in Soapies. If you really are a Godzilla, you might be better off picking an older girl who has a baby already, and a Soapy with predominantly non-Thai customers. No guarantee, but they are less likely to be dick scared. Even could ask the Papasan which girls like big dicks. Annies maybe a good venue for you. The mamasan could ask the girls who like big dicks to stand up. I have never had a bad service at Annies yet at most other Soapies it is hit and miss. The disadvantage at Annies is not many pretty girls, and other ISGers really bash Annies, because they just love shit dumping exercises. Lets be clear though Annies is not my favourite place and have only been there a few times for very specific girls. For me the place matters little. It's merely about the target girls.
If it was bad service, would there be any point in telling the mammasan / pappasan?That is one of the advantages of a shop; you have some level of recourse. It might help and it might not, but if the experience was that bad it gives you an outlet to vent your frustration.
I don't make a fuss unless I felt it was an intentional rip-off by the provider. Poor sexual chemistry would not qualify; but with your situation a deliberate non-performer would.
It has only happened to me twice where I felt compelled to say something. At one shop I was offered a gratis do-over. At the other shop I was basically told to pound sand.
SL.
Cheers for that. I'm not really into crinkly tums either although if the service is exceptional, I could maybe put up with it. Amazing how they have hidden that on all her gallery pics. Who would you recommend for performance and looks (any oily but preferably one that offers outcalls)?Used to always ask first thing in an oily about which gals did not have kids. Going to go back to that policy. To tell you the truth I am searching for new "regulars" myself. Of the two that I saw most often, one headed off to Korea because biz is slow here and the other headed home to open a business. It's interesting, as I get older I need the right combination of looks and performance to really enjoy a sesh. And I am becoming more discriminating in both departments. If either are lacking I leave unfulfilled, which seems to be the majority of the time these days. Really stung to lose two regulars in two month's time. One I had been seeing for 5 years the other for 3. And in the last three years have never found another one that "did it" for me enough to become a regular. There have been a few "almosts" but they are still "not quites. ".
I might be a little shy. LOL I get A+ very rarely, since I could count on one hand the number of times a girl invited me to take her ass, despite many visits to Tulip, Mango, Snow White and Cherry.
I suspect that not many girls are really into it that much, especially if they see your size and know you like fucking for a long time before cumming. I once tried jamming three fingers into my own, just to see how difficult it was. I could not get it in past the knuckles, so I can easily understand that anal can be not at all pleasurable for most girls. Guys should all try getting a dildo up the ass so they know what it is really like before expecting too much from girls.
To get anal regularly, I would definitely need to request it, and even then I suspect quite a lot of refusals. I did suggest it once with a girl who did not want to fuck due to her period, and knowing she offered it sometimes.I'd say that almost any sex act can be unpleasant or difficult to do, when you aren't prepared for it, and when you don't have much experience with it either.
Starting to have vaginal sex without good foreplay often is unpleasant and even painful for the woman. And it's no different with anal sex. You really need to foreplay the lady to make it pleasant for her. And anal foreplay is of course different from vaginal foreplay. Just because you know one, doesn't mean that you know the other.
It's true that A+ isn't popular among Thai ladies. Most massage ladies don't have much experience with it. They don't know how to do it well with a guy, and that's why they are often reluctant to do it. And of course, it's up to the lady to decide whether she even wants to learn how to do it well or not.
But I'd say virtually every massage lady wants to have repeat customers. And if she wants her guys to repeat with her, then it makes a lot of sense to make them feel welcome with her. And the most effective way for a lady to make a guy feel welcome with her is to invite him with a smile, not just inside her room, but inside her pussy too.
I've been with an experienced massage lady who would make me ready, then she would turn around and invite me to pound her pussy in the doggy position. She made me feel so welcome with her, that I had no worries or anxieties anymore. And that's what I'm talking about, when I say that massage ladies should make their guys feel welcome with them.
When the lady waits for the guy to ask her for this or that, then this can make the guy feel unsure about whether she even wants to be there with him. It's normal for a guy to have doubts like this, unless the lady goes out of her way to make him feel welcome with her.
Of course, you might want to do something different from what the lady invites you to do. But just the fact that she invites you for any kind of intimacy makes you feel welcome to ask her for other things too. It's the lack of any invitation from the lady at all that makes her guy feel unwelcome with her.
Used to always ask first thing in an oily about which gals did not have kids. Going to go back to that policy. To tell you the truth I am searching for new "regulars" myself. Of the two that I saw most often, one headed off to Korea because biz is slow here and the other headed home to open a business. It's interesting, as I get older I need the right combination of looks and performance to really enjoy a sesh. And I am becoming more discriminating in both departments. If either are lacking I leave unfulfilled, which seems to be the majority of the time these days. Really stung to lose two regulars in two month's time. One I had been seeing for 5 years the other for 3. And in the last three years have never found another one that "did it" for me enough to become a regular. There have been a few "almosts" but they are still "not quites. ".I am glad to see you admit to getting more picky. This happens to many of us. I am embarrassed when I look at photos of some girls I did in yester year. I guess some bar girls looked okay In the dark but not that great in daylight.
I certainly identify with loosing favourites. I lost three this year in a matter of months, that I did not want to loose. One of them, I would have taken for a wife in the right circumstance, she was just so nice (better than the GF by a significant margin). It hurts. I always wish I met some of them earlier, so I would have had more time with them.
The best two girls for looks that I ever had from Crazy House, both have gone. One I only got to fuck 1 time, and the other only twice. They could have easily been favourites if they stuck around long enough. So this is a problem for finding new favourites. The super girls rarely last long. There are not so many you can keep for years.
Right now I am left with no favourites in the massage shops and only 2 or 3 favourites in bars. I think have to do a girl at least 3 times and have intention to continue, to call a girl a favourite.
Girls leaving to get married, or become a permanent couple, or have a baby, is a big problem. Guys are stealing them away.
I am glad to see you admit to getting more picky. This happens to many of us. I am embarrassed when I look at photos of some girls I did in yester year. I guess some bar girls looked okay In the dark but not that great in daylight.I also think the combination of looks and performance is harder and harder to find. Since I only frequent the oilies, that is all I can comment on. It is almost if you have to choose one or the other. Nowadays more often than naught, I choose neither.
I also think the combination of looks and performance is harder and harder to find. Since I only frequent the oilies, that is all I can comment on. It is almost if you have to choose one or the other. Nowadays more often than naught, I choose neither.I can only remember 5 stunners in Oilies, ever for me (all gone). Gaew at Pink, Bai-Fern at Yoremichi, Guitar at Geisha?, Angie at Cherry, and ? at Thonglor 1. Gaew was the only one that lasted any significant time, and she was the weakest GFE performer of the lot. None were PSE. In an Oily, you need the girl to stand to have any major clue about her figure, and even then its a gamble. PSE shops have a shortage of slim girls with natural tits. Places like Tulip, had no stunners.
In bars, you find a lot more stunners, but tastes vary, so while the other guy likes Sharks girls, they are probably not for me, being a different type of look, including most rather fake. Bars have very few PSE girls at all, only 50% or less are repeatable, and a much smaller percentage really top GFEs. The drawback of bars is it costs more and no PSE. The advantage is I check out girls naked very carefully for a significant time before deciding that she is really a possibility. You can't tell in advance though, who will be dick scared. This significantly reduces the percentage of repeatable girls. For GFE, you can get some idea (which may prove wrong). If a girl will DFK you in the bar (most won't), it's a very good sign.
For many punters, young = pretty, but not for me. Many young girls with good bodies have very plain faces. I am willing to take girls over 30 if they looked after themselves well. Girls with pretty face and good body can still have it at 35, with only minor deterioration. I am forced to take a lot of mothers, as they tend to be less dick scared compared to girls never pregnant, however most of my favourites are not mothers.
In Soapies, real stunners do appear in low numbers. Even Nataree has very few. Performance, is hit and miss much the same as bar girls. The disadvantage is not getting to see them naked first, and rarely knowing the personality. One girl at Amsterdam was very pretty, sleak curvy, big naturals, fabulous to talk to and fun, all the way right up to when it came time to fuck, she was very dick scared and therefore ended up being hopeless on the bed for me. Possibly quite OK for other customers. What a disappointment. Strangely a couple of soapy girl that were excellent for me 8 years ago, are no longer good for me. One has a bad nose job these days, both put on weight, GFE reduced, and both don't like to fuck for more than a few minutes any longer. In the old days, 15 to 20 years back, I used Chao Praya 2 for Soapy girls as they had a very big and varied line up in the fishbowl, including body slide girls in one section. Never needed to go anywhere else. There is no Soapy that good in the modern day, for my taste.
Cunning Stunt
09-07-15, 05:42
Fetched up at Bamboo yesterday. This was more down to terminal lassitude rather than anything else as its hotter than hell in Bangkok at the moment, I'm still jetlagged and staying nearby. Decided on an outcall to my palatial squat (courtesy of Airbnb) so took a gentle stroll along to their shop and after discussing my requirements with the lovely and very friendly receptionist (I think her name is Bam and if she had been available, I'd have taken her like a shot) we settled on Ja who, according to their website is "Young, cute with real Thai massage skill, works hard to please. One of Khun Bo's best students! A+ big natural boobs and good figure. Book early!". I'd have to agree with all apart from the big boobs bit, they are shapely and in proportion to her small frame. So I asked for her to be wrapped up and delivered to me in 15 minutes, which she duly was.
Ja is a little minx. Seemingly shy and diffident in personality on the surface, but get her anywhere near a mattress and her personality changes instantly into that of a man devouring nymph. She seemed to know all the things that send me into orbit. And everything she did was prefaced with a 'Chorp, Mai?' with which I inevitably responded 'Chorp'! So she licked me all over, concentrating on my nipples. She spent an inordinate amount of time teasing me by lapping at my balls and the shaft of my quivering manhood, all the time maintaining eye contact which drove me to distraction. She kissed properly in the French style, something many Thai working girls will not do any more. And, of course, every hole was open for business. I was dubious about such a small and petite thing taking my not inconsiderable parts up her tight little jacksy without splitting her from ass to breakfast, but no she speared herself right up to the hilt and then rode me so well that if it had been the Derby, we would have won by a street.
A consummate performance well deserving of a tip on top of the 2500 + 500 A+ charge (bit contentious I know but I was happy to pay).
Yes the very pretty girls disappear fast. I can only guess where they go. Some find a sponsor. It must be related to higher standards of living in Thailand, more job choices and better salaries in other occupations. More international careers? But let us not complain: lots of talented girls in Bangkok. We get older, become more picky and harder to please.
I also think the combination of looks and performance is harder and harder to find. Since I only frequent the oilies, that is all I can comment on. It is almost if you have to choose one or the other. Nowadays more often than naught, I choose neither.
I can only remember 5 stunners in Oilies, ever for me (all gone). Gaew at Pink, Bai-Fern at Yoremichi, Guitar at Geisha?, Angie at Cherry, and ? at Thonglor 1. Gaew was the only one that lasted any significant time, and she was the weakest GFE performer of the lot. None were PSE. In an Oily, you need the girl to stand to have any major clue about her figure, and even then its a gamble. PSE shops have a shortage of slim girls with natural tits. Places like Tulip, had no stunners.Never really was preoccupied with "stunners" but I like a gal who is easy on the eyes. A marginal face and a rocking body does it for me any day. Whereas I will pass on a marginal body and great face. Sadly I don't really see gals with marginal faces and great bodies at the PSE oilies much anymore.
To my eyes there were some amazing lookers at the oilies years back. Mango had Ann, Cherry, Mook, and to a lesser extent Apple and Bo. SW had a few as well. Tulip had some ok gals. Nestle in her prime. Nong was not bad either. Of course every dude has a different idea of what a stunner is. When you posted the pics of the gal from LaBelle I much preferred her look in the later pics. I like my gals very "slutty" looking. I have no issue with a nose job if its done well and think that good sillies do nothing but enhance a figure. I prefer gals well made up as opposed to "natural. " I like the gal next door look, that is if I live next door to a brothel.
Fetched up at Bamboo yesterday....
Ja is a little minx. Seemingly shy and diffident in personality on the surface, but get her anywhere near a mattress and her personality changes instantly into that of a man devouring nymph. She seemed to know all the things that send me into orbit. And everything she did was prefaced with a 'Chorp, Mai?' with which I inevitably responded 'Chorp'! So she licked me all over, concentrating on my nipples. She spent an inordinate amount of time teasing me by lapping at my balls and the shaft of my quivering manhood, all the time maintaining eye contact which drove me to distraction. She kissed properly in the French style, something many Thai working girls will not do any more. And, of course, every hole was open for business. I was dubious about such a small and petite thing taking my not inconsiderable parts up her tight little jacksy without splitting her from ass to breakfast, but no she speared herself right up to the hilt and then rode me so well that if it had been the Derby, we would have won by a street.
A consummate performance well deserving of a tip on top of the 2500 + 500 A+ charge (bit contentious I know but I was happy to pay).
I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.
http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/
I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.
But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.
When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.
I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.
If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.
Cunning Stunt
09-07-15, 17:26
I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.
http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/
Actually Dan, she is not as good looking as in her profile pics. She is cute enough facially and has a banging, tight body (no babies) but her photos have obviously been 'improved'. But you cannot photoshop great attitude and application both of which she has in abundance.
I agree with your point about the extra charge for A+. In most other places that I've punted, anal attracts a premium charge. In UK for example, you would be charged extra anything from £20 - £100 for a go at a WG's ass with the median figure being about £50. So its dirt cheap here in comparison. Few girls truly enjoy a big cock up their shitter, despite what some guys maintain. It can cause discomfort and outright pain. Plus it requires some prior preparation by the girl if you want to avoid the disgusting phenomena known as brown hatting on withdrawal!
Francesco24
09-07-15, 17:35
I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.
http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/
I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.
But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.
When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.
I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.
If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.I really really strongly disagree with everything you wrote.
Wolvenvacht
09-07-15, 18:43
I agree with your point about the extra charge for A+. In most other places that I've punted, anal attracts a premium charge. In UK for example, you would be charged extra anything from 20 - 100 GBP for a go at a WG's ass with the median figure being about 50GBP.That's exactly why I think it is a bad idea to pay extra for A+. Not that I am interested in anal sex, but it might just give the girls the idea that there are many extras they can charge separately. Think of CIM, COF, BBBJ or even BJ. In Europe most pros charge extra for all this. Hell, I once even had to pay extra to get her to take off all her clothes. Surely we don't want that to happen in LOS?
I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.
http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/
I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.
But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.
When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.
I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.
If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.Disagree with you 100% here Dan. It simply opens the door for up-charges on everything.
That's exactly why I think it is a bad idea to pay extra for A+. Not that I am interested in anal sex, but it might just give the girls the idea that there are many extras they can charge separately. Think of CIM, COF, BBBJ or even BJ. In Europe most pros charge extra for all this. Hell, I once even had to pay extra to get her to take off all her clothes. Surely we don't want that to happen in LOS?Here here. That is why the Baron's Tulip model has been so great. One price; all girls do everything. I have no issues if gals don't want to do A+, up to them. But charging extra is a slippery slope that we don't want to head down.
Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.
So you are saying that something that in the lady's mind normally would be considered perverted, somehow becomes normal because not only does the man want it, but he wants it so bad he is willing to pay extra for it? You really believe this?
Here here. That is why the Baron's Tulip model has been so great. One price; all girls do everything. I have no issues if gals don't want to do A+, up to them. But charging extra is a slippery slope that we don't want to head down.However most shops are moving toward one price for all in, and that price varies by duration of session and whether its Oily or Gel, etc. There is no way to get a cheaper session for HJ or BJ only for all-in price shops. I believe all shops will move to all-in price eventually. This means girl's share of 1400 will gradually increase upward over time as overall price rises occur.
Those who want BJ only will be forced to go to BJ shop or accept paying more for it.
If some shops do not go to all-in price, may increase entry fees gradually, and start giving the girl part of entry fee, so she could make more than 1500 for sex part. I am just speculating, but clearly prices cannot remain fixed forever. Super market bills keep rising, rent keeps rising, quality of the PSE shop girls probably goes down. We see some places offering A+ for extra fee. Since not every girl is forced to provide it to get customers, extra incentive made be needed to make them consider doing it. Some girls clearly don't want to give it, even to attract extra customers.
I think prices have to rise, one way or another. The discrepancy between what the Oily girls make for a ST and what bargirls make for less work is getting wider. Bargirls realistically have more choice of customer as well. Being an Oily girl gets less and less attractive, especially for pretty girls. Are any girls in PSE shops making big money? I don't know about this. Not attending regularly enough.
I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.
http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/
Not stunning for me. Face a bit too round and tits a bit too round too. LOL I would not go specially looking for her, but if she is for your taste, great. A+ certainly no great surprise.
Never really was preoccupied with "stunners" but I like a gal who is easy on the eyes. A marginal face and a rocking body does it for me any day. Whereas I will pass on a marginal body and great face. Sadly I don't really see gals with marginal faces and great bodies at the PSE oilies much anymore.
To my eyes there were some amazing lookers at the oilies years back. Mango had Ann, Cherry, Mook, and to a lesser extent Apple and Bo. SW had a few as well. Tulip had some ok gals. Nestle in her prime. Nong was not bad either. Of course every dude has a different idea of what a stunner is. When you posted the pics of the gal from LaBelle I much preferred her look in the later pics. I like my gals very "slutty" looking. I have no issue with a nose job if its done well and think that good sillies do nothing but enhance a figure. I prefer gals well made up as opposed to "natural. " I like the gal next door look, that is if I live next door to a brothel.I can compromise somewhat on either face or body, but never on both. Something needs to be well above average, and not too many things below average.
Angie at Cherry, I mentioned, had 10 out of 10 body but face was only an 8 (still very good). However I don't go as low as really marginal faces. Cherry at Mango had a great body maybe close to a 9, but face was only a 7 at best. Not really an amazing looker as such, but good enough for me. For face, Cat was far cuter but body a little bit puffy. When Cat first worked at Mango, she was the prettiest face there by a considerable margin and trimmer at that time, and I did not session with any others. I guess Cherry arrived somewhat later. I have a photo of Cherry somewhere and face is above average by not so much. Bo was fairly ordinary looking but at least no fat. Sillies wrecked it.
When I first met Nestle at Tulip, around 2006 or 2007, her face looked too adjusted which put me off. Her looks appeared to improve greatly years later, when she had retired. Rumours were she had some face enhancement removed, but maybe bulldust since I don't know any details or really understand. I never actually had a session with her.
I liked June at SW, since while not a stunner, she was well above average in all categories, face, body, and performance. In time became A+, although not originally. Very reliable. I would probably rate her higher or at least equal to Cherry even though tits were smaller.
I can compromise somewhat on either face or body, but never on both. Something needs to be well above average, and not too many things below average.
Angie at Cherry, I mentioned, had 10 out of 10 body but face was only an 8 (still very good). However I don't go as low as really marginal faces. Cherry at Mango had a great body maybe close to a 9, but face was only a 7 at best. Not really an amazing looker as such, but good enough for me. For face, Cat was far cuter but body a little bit puffy. When Cat first worked at Mango, she was the prettiest face there by a considerable margin and trimmer at that time, and I did not session with any others. I guess Cherry arrived somewhat later. I have a photo of Cherry somewhere and face is above average by not so much. Bo was fairly ordinary looking but at least no fat. Sillies wrecked it.
When I first met Nestle at Tulip, around 2006 or 2007, her face looked too adjusted which put me off. Her looks appeared to improve greatly years later, when she had retired. Rumours were she had some face enhancement removed, but maybe bulldust since I don't know any details or really understand. I never actually had a session with her.
I liked June at SW, since while not a stunner, she was well above average in all categories, face, body, and performance. In time became A+, although not originally. Very reliable. I would probably rate her higher or at least equal to Cherry even though tits were smaller.Personally I found Cherry at SW to be more attractive than June when it came their faces. Body wise and performance wise Cherry gets the nod as well. June was cute though and had an amazing body despite having one child. Always enthusiastic and seemed to enjoy the act, but found her BJ to be a bit toothy at times.
AssLover945
09-08-15, 16:48
I checked out lady Ja's picture, and she is good-looking alright.
http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/ja/
I'm surprised that a good-looking lady like Ja is now doing A+ with guys. This is one positive change in Thailand now compared to before. More massage ladies are now doing A+ with their guys. You can now actually ask a good-looking massage lady to do A+ with you and not feel embarrassed about it.
But this increasing popularity of A+ among massage ladies is probably no accident. That 500B surcharge for A+ probably has a lot to do with it. Because the lady has a financial incentive to do A+ with her guys and become good at it too. When the hot lady gets paid extra for A+, then she is liable to invite you for some A+ with her, rather than be reluctant about it and perhaps say 'No' to you.
When you ask the lady to do some A+ with you for free, then this makes you feel like a beggar. It's an embarrassing thing to do. Because you are asking her for an extra favor, without doing anything extra for her. But when you know that the lady gets paid extra for it, and she might even want to do it with you, then this makes you feel free to go on an ass-banging spree.
I never would've thought before of going A+ on every hot lass at a massage place like Bamboo. But now this might be the thing to do. Not every lady there does A+ with her guys, but most ladies do. And these ladies aren't going to look at you as some kind of pervert, when you ask them for it, not when you are paying them an extra 500B for it.
If you like A+, then it makes a lot of sense to pay the ladies extra for it, even when the lady does it routinely, and she is unlikely to say 'No' to you. Because by rewarding her, you make an example out of her for other ladies to follow. Your A+ lady has many friends, and she probably boasts to them about making extra money by doing A+. It's an incentive for other ladies to start doing A+ too.If Bamboo is to be similar to its originators like tulip, mango SW etc, the upcharge on anal etc has to go. Period.
Cunning Stunt
09-08-15, 18:23
... tits a bit too round too. Hahaha...sorry mate, had to laugh at this statement. So you go for girls with square tits do you, Syz? Or maybe triangular boobs? The mind boggles! Think that I'll stick with good old fashioned round knockers.
Hi Guys, I need your help to refresh my memory.
At the start of my yearly stay in BKK in January, I did some scouting on the MPs in Soi33.
On the lot where Hotel S33 is (former Peep Inn, where Akane used to be), on the RHS as you enter from the Soi, there is a Japanese style MP.
I think you have to go up one stairs, but I am not sure any more.
It seemed very worthwhile visiting, but my steady TGFs kept me permanently exhausted, so I never made it and now I cannot remember the name of the MP.
Can anyone help me withe name / website of the place? Any personal experience would also be most welcome.
Thanks.
DS.
I have been patronizing the Ratchada soapies a lot lately. I have pretty good intel on them. I will start with the most reviewed / recommend as I feel they are not that good anymore and this should be brought up since they are too often (incorrectly) recommended on highly trafficked blogs.
Nataree: I go here a lot. I obviously like the place. In fact I do like the place. I can recommend it IF you want a really good looking younger Asian woman (not the fake gogo hustler type). Reluctantly, I can recommend Nataree. Especially because they have so many women working, and many of them are good looking. You're find your type most likely. They have a good supply line basically. However, the performance is really drab. Only about 25% give me BBBJ and that's probably just because I frequent the place fairly often. If they do perform BBBJ, it's always like. Bad. Many times, sex is about getting me off so they can get back down-stairs. They are obviously servicing a lot of customers and this place has kind of a fast food business practice. I go here sometimes on weekdays and I must admit, the selection is actually pretty underwhelming. The better looking ones only seem to work on the busy nights. Also, lots of Jap tourist buses quickly fill this place up.
Prices: 2600 - 3200. I almost always pay 2600 because any more and the girl is probably just not my type (pale / tiny /18). Definitely do not get any of the models at Nataree. They are "near virgins," and are really only appealing to the foreign Asian clientele.
Bottom line: Yeah go to Nataree and see for yourself. There is something about the women there that seems unmatched by their competition. But only go on a busy day like Friday / Saturday and BEFORE 9 pm. Definitely avoid Monday / Tuesday / Wed. Only the bland / fatter ones working then. It's just like any place but with high prices and low quality if you don't go on the busy night. But get there before the jap tourist vans fill it up.
Poseidon: Model lounge. Looked more like a retire lounge for hookers. I visited at 5 PM and it was really 'meh'. No boner material, I think the only thing these women excel at is their education level. It seems like not being from a farm is an important distinction for Thai's with money to through around. Like a caste thing I recon. Being a 100% superficial person, I would say the model lounge is crap. Went to the normal fish bowl. High prices for falang (500 baht more, so it's 2700 and 3200). Service is quite good here. I saw I lady I liked and saw her a few more times. Sadly, I think I kept picking her because all the other women were so bad looking. Also, she wasn't like hot. She was 30+ but really cool and I liked her.
Bottom line: Really bad selection. Even if there are many women and you go at a prime time, so many of them are below average looking.
Colonze 2: Holy crap, this place is awesome. 1800 for women who are almost on par in looks with the 2600 sideliners from Nataree. And honestly, not a bad selection either. Lots of women here. As for the model lounge, they only cost 2600 - 3200 baht when I was there. Many of them looked kind of okay. Not much boner material. Seemed like they were higher class than anything else because the women down stairs looked quite good, and these women didn't seem much better. There was also only about 10. I found only 1 I liked, and she was really nice looking. And great, great performer all-around, no questions asked, high enthusiasm throughout (something Nataree almost never provides, except their fat chicks which I guess aren't picked as often and therefore aren't as tired). Been here 2 times, both times BBBK no questions asked, very accommodating women. I recon they aren't high mileage per day in terms of clientele so that helps.
Bottom line: By walking for 10 minutes from Nataree, which is sort of a Jap trap, you can get 2 x better service at almost half the price.
Alaina: Another winner in my book. Only went once, but it's really great place. The building is new, so it's not run down like many of these places. The women seem a bit older than those who work at nataree, but I think it's the same women because both are owned by the same person. Prices are good, only 2300 baht. I think the price is helped since they aren't unloading van loads of drunk japs. Mamasan was very accommodating, the girl I picked was great and really took her time.
Copa Cabana: I went only once, and it was the day before a 4 day Thai holiday / weekend so maybe it was an off day. Not a lot of women. I picked a model for 5500. She wasn't my type after all, once the clothes came off. I mean she wasn't ugly, she was a model. I could see her being on TV or something (except that her nose surgery didn't really turn out that perfect.). Overall, not impressed with their low selection. The women here seemed to be more pale than beautiful. I was expecting models, I mostly saw above average by Thai standards. However, I'm more into busty / darker Thai's so my word probably isn't that helpful about this place. I wouldn't rule it out.
Meree: This place is really good IMO. Probably my second personal favorite. Prices are kind of low, about 2400 baht. The women are in the 24-25 range, so more of my type. A lot of really good looking women in that they aren't knockouts, but they are so far above average in looks. Kind of like "that fairly hot chick on the subway" look. Only drawback is the distance to get here. One of my favs. Great attitude by the staff and usually the women working there.
Avita / Evita: Usually I can't find anything here I like, so few women are in the fishbowl since most are booked. Really low prices, like 1800-2200 baht. Great service the one time I went (BBBJ in bath). It's next to Meree so worth stopping by if you can speak Thai.
Ceasars: I used to really favor this place, probably #1 for me a year ago. I stepped in after a year hiatus. I was really unimpressed with their lineup. Most of the women had nose surgery and were simply not great looking. I'll have to stop by again later and see.
Bottom Line: I hope others can prove me wrong, but I'm going to say avoid now. They used to be a great place to get super hot models for 4200 baht (instead of 5500 baht at The Lord). I think they are more of a tourist destination / trap now.
Emmanuelle: I hate this place. Can't stand the papasan pressuring for tips / not handing me my change back. Pressured to by drinks. Really poor selection compared to 2 years ago. The girl I picked a few months ago wouldn't stfu about tipping her 1 k baht for a second baht. She simply was not letting it go. Place seems to really be suffering due to Nataree.
Cupidy: This place is a meth lounge. Super shady and I have heard some pretty scamming / bad reviews. I went once and got 2 women, one of them was clearly coked up. She demanded that I tip her because she needed money for food (she was rather fat).
Will never check out (I've only heard bad reviews): Amsterdam, Hi-class.
Haven't checked out yet: The Lord, Utopia, La Belle. These are the high end places. I haven't really had the model / high-end itch much lately.
Reef LostCause
09-08-15, 20:43
Hi Guys, I need your help to refresh my memory.
At the start of my yearly stay in BKK in January, I did some scouting on the MPs in Soi33.
On the lot where Hotel S33 is (former Peep Inn, where Akane used to be), on the RHS as you enter from the Soi, there is a Japanese style MP.
I think you have to go up one stairs, but I am not sure any more.
It seemed very worthwhile visiting, but my steady TGFs kept me permanently exhausted, so I never made it and now I cannot remember the name of the MP.
Can anyone help me withe name / website of the place? Any personal experience would also be most welcome.
Thanks.
DS.Sounds like Mitu Massage (http://mitubangkok.com/), although that would be the LHS if you enter the Soi from Sukhumvit.
I went there 1 1/2 year ago, so you can probably search my posts from this era for the review. However, the website and the girls seem to have changed completely since then, so not sure that would be helpful to you. The prices also seem to have risen dramatically...
I have been patronizing the Ratchada soapies a lot lately. I have pretty good intel on them. I will start with the most reviewed / recommend as I feel they are not that good anymore and this should be brought up since they are too often (incorrectly) recommended on highly trafficked blogs.
Nataree: I go here a lot. I obviously like the place. In fact I do like the place. I can recommend it IF you want a really good looking younger Asian woman (not the fake gogo hustler type). Reluctantly, I can recommend Nataree. Especially because they have so many women working, and many of them are good looking. You're find your type most likely. They have a good supply line basically. However, the performance is really drab. Only about 25% give me BBBJ and that's probably just because I frequent the place fairly often. If they do perform BBBJ, it's always like. Bad. Many times, sex is about getting me off so they can get back down-stairs. They are obviously servicing a lot of customers and this place has kind of a fast food business practice. I go here sometimes on weekdays and I must admit, the selection is actually pretty underwhelming. The better looking ones only seem to work on the busy nights. Also, lots of Jap tourist buses quickly fill this place up.
Your post is quite confusing to me. You say you like Nataree and recommend it, but the performance of the girls is really drab. That is precisely why I don't go there. Girls being mostly dick scared and giving poor performance. I don't find that many girls there to my taste either. Many many girls above average looks but not many truly pretty.
It would help a lot more if you specified the size of the line up for each place and what time of day you attended. It seems strange to dislike some place based on a single visit. I have generally liked Copa Cabana, even if line up can be a bit ordinary.
I have been to Colonze 2 a couple of times, some time ago, and the line up was very small (no more than 12), no girls pretty enough for me. However it sounds like you are saying there is an upstairs model section. I was not aware of that.
I have had visits to Meree in the past where there were doable girls.
Don't bother with Utopia unless you are East Asian looking guy. Its expensive for Farangs and line up is shrinking.
Thanks,
I'll probably cruise the arcade. I just wasn't sure if they would be open that late as I am usually an early monger. I've never had a problem with the LBs there. My radar is pretty good and if I am in doubt, I just ask. So far every massage girl I've had in the arcade was born that way!I am happy to report that I did not need to worry, Bangkok never disappoints. I didn't get to my hotel until 2 am. Had a quick shower and headed over to Soi 11. The massage girl gauntlet was as intense as ever. There was one absolute stunner but unfortunately her feet were larger and voice was deeper than mine. I finally found one very sweet and fairly attractive girl and had a halfway decent massage and a very nice handy, which is all I wanted. 1000 baht all in including a tip.
Your post is quite confusing to me. You say you like Nataree and recommend it, but the performance of the girls is really drab. That is precisely why I don't go there. Girls being mostly dick scared and giving poor performance. I don't find that many girls there to my taste either. Many many girls above average looks but not many truly pretty.
It would help a lot more if you specified the size of the line up for each place and what time of day you attended. It seems strange to dislike some place based on a single visit. I have generally liked Copa Cabana, even if line up can be a bit ordinary.
I have been to Colonze 2 a couple of times, some time ago, and the line up was very small (no more than 12), no girls pretty enough for me. However it sounds like you are saying there is an upstairs model section. I was not aware of that.
I have had visits to Meree in the past where there were doable girls.
Don't bother with Utopia unless you are East Asian looking guy. Its expensive for Farangs and line up is shrinking.The times I attended all of these places is 5-6 PM. I know they can have pretty bad lineups before then. Sometimes I visit at 7 PM, but never later.
Yes I definitely have mixed feelings about Nataree. I'll revise my opinion to a "Do not go to Nataree at all". Here's why. If you are in Bangkok for vacation (not a sort of resident), don't bother going to Nataree (tourist trap kinda). Instead, go to The Lord, Alaina, Meree or Colonze 2. If you are in Bangkok for a long awhile, you're going to end up at Nataree on curiosity alone. In that case, just any FYI, it's about 80% poor performers. Probably because they are so tired from doing bus-loads (literally) of customers. The plumper chicks tend to perform better IMO because they aren't picked as much.
Colonze 2 must have changed a lot by then. I went on a Tuesday at like 7 pm and the place was filled to the brim with hotties on the first floor. Probably 40-50 girls ready to be picked. The second floor had about 10 "models. " Only one of them was rather good looking in my falang opinion. So, I also visited on a Friday at 6 PM and it was fairly decent, but not as good as Tues 7 PM. Maybe because they don't really get busy until 7-8 PM? Maybe because Friday is the night that the locals pre-book their favorites? Colonze 2 appears to be areal gem in the rough, and it's been kind of rough lately in the Ratchada soapy scene. It's insane that they are about 1000 baht lower than their competition (not comparing to the ultra-upscale), and have a great line-up to boot.
Overall, if I can condense my soapy advice. I would say to visit Colonze 2/ Alaina / The Lord since they are all right near each other. And avoid the more popular ones that are closer to the MRT exits (Nataree / Emmanuelle / Ceasars / Poseidon).
Sounds like Mitu Massage (http://mitubangkok.com/), although that would be the LHS if you enter the Soi from Sukhumvit.
I went there 1 1/2 year ago, so you can probably search my posts from this era for the review. However, the website and the girls seem to have changed completely since then, so not sure that would be helpful to you. The prices also seem to have risen dramatically...Can't imagine why Daddysan wants to know?
They seem to be promoting lbclubmitu .com outcall for all night. Can we assume lbclub means ladyboys? or is it just an unfortunate abbreviation?
I suggest instead, trying Dream Heaven round the corner in Soi 33. I have had the odd nice girl from there.
AssLover945
09-09-15, 18:27
Can't imagine why Daddysan wants to know?
They seem to be promoting lbclubmitu .com outcall for all night. Can we assume lbclub means ladyboys? or is it just an unfortunate abbreviation?
I suggest instead, trying Dream Heaven round the corner in Soi 33. I have had the odd nice girl from there.Asking because in 2 hours I usually cum twice. Do they allow it?
Wolvenvacht
09-09-15, 19:05
They seem to be promoting lbclubmitu .com outcall for all night. Can we assume lbclub means ladyboys? or is it just an unfortunate abbreviation?Yep, ladyboys and they are quite open about it, with all details (pre or post-op; estrogen therapy; implants, . . .).
See for an example http://lbclubmitu.com/miki.php.
Assassins88
09-10-15, 04:16
Hello,
Was wondering if anyone could guide on any sexual experience at any nice parlour for a couple.
Thanks!
Gannaton48
09-10-15, 06:47
I have been patronizing the Ratchada soapies a lot lately. I have pretty good intel on them. I will start with the most reviewed / recommend as I feel they are not that good anymore and this should be brought up since they are too often (incorrectly) recommended on highly trafficked blogs.
Nataree: I go here a lot. I obviously like the place. In fact I do like the place. I can recommend it IF you want a really good looking younger Asian woman (not the fake gogo hustler type). Reluctantly, I can recommend Nataree. Especially because they have so many women working, and many of them are good looking. You're find your type most likely. They have a good supply line basically. However, the performance is really drab. Only about 25% give me BBBJ and that's probably just because I frequent the place fairly often. If they do perform BBBJ, it's always like. Bad. Many times, sex is about getting me off so they can get back down-stairs. They are obviously servicing a lot of customers and this place has kind of a fast food business practice. I go here sometimes on weekdays and I must admit, the selection is actually pretty underwhelming. The better looking ones only seem to work on the busy nights. Also, lots of Jap tourist buses quickly fill this place up.
Prices: 2600 - 3200. I almost always pay 2600 because any more and the girl is probably just not my type (pale / tiny /18). Definitely do not get any of the models at Nataree. They are "near virgins," and are really only appealing to the foreign Asian clientele..For newcomers like me (will be there early October) this kind of survey is invaluable, even though it's very individual taste and opinion of course of what one is looking for and likes. Myself I am very much about BBBJ (and CIM when ever possible) and I was therefore quite surprised to read in Parkville's report that only 1/4 of girls at Nataree provide BBBJ. Is it possible in suc places to know before choosing by asking mamasans for example or discussing it directly with the girl before making sure to go with her? Parkville, which place would you suggest to have a great or sure chance to get BBBJ from you own experience? Other punters suggestions welcome!
So you are saying that something that in the lady's mind normally would be considered perverted, somehow becomes normal because not only does the man want it, but he wants it so bad he is willing to pay extra for it? You really believe this?The lady can perceive anything she wants as perverted. A lot of ladies probably think that having sex with a stranger is perverted.
This kind of thing is based largely on feelings and not on logic. And that's why making the lady feel better about it, by giving her some money, can change her opinion about it.
There is no way Thai ladies would be having sex with strangers, if they weren't getting paid for it. It's the money that makes it okay for them. Because money changes their feelings about it towards the positive.
And that's the way it works for getting the ladies to do A+ with you. When most ladies see this as being perverted and not something they would do with a guy, then this means that they have a negative feeling about it. And to change her feeling about it, you need to add something significantly positive to it. Giving her extra 500 B is that positive which makes her feel better about it and changes her mind.
People's opinions depend on their feelings, and feelings you can influence by doing something that makes the person feel better.
Can't imagine why Daddysan wants to know?
They seem to be promoting lbclubmitu .com outcall for all night. Can we assume lbclub means ladyboys? or is it just an unfortunate abbreviation?
I suggest instead, trying Dream Heaven round the corner in Soi 33. I have had the odd nice girl from there.A belated thanks to Reef LostCause for the info.
As I wrote, I have forgotten the name of the place I scouted and Mitu does not really ring a bell.
In January, it definitely was not a lb-joint. It makes me physically sick just visualising.....
That's exactly why I think it is a bad idea to pay extra for A+. Not that I am interested in anal sex, but it might just give the girls the idea that there are many extras they can charge separately. Think of CIM, COF, BBBJ or even BJ. In Europe most pros charge extra for all this. Hell, I once even had to pay extra to get her to take off all her clothes. Surely we don't want that to happen in LOS?If the porn model is anything to go by, then paying the ladies extra for anal doesn't lead to extra charges for everything else.
Porn stars get paid extra for anal. And that's why a lot more women are doing anal in porn than in ordinary life. But this doesn't make porn women separate their charges for everything else and ask to get paid for every little thing separately.
Anal is a porn-star experience. It's above and beyond what ladies normally do. And if you want the lady to take you on like a porn-star, then you need to pay her like one. Which involves paying extra for A+.
It doesn't make sense to expect the lady to be like a porn-star with you, while you refuse to pay her for her porn-star part. This isn't a fair exchange, and it's not going to work with most ladies.
A+ is becoming so popular, because that's what you see in a lot of porn films. And that's why paying for it in a similar way porn women get paid makes sense.
If the porn model is anything to go by, then paying the ladies extra for anal doesn't lead to extra charges for everything else.
Porn stars get paid extra for anal. And that's why a lot more women are doing anal in porn than in ordinary life. But this doesn't make porn women separate their charges for everything else and ask to get paid for every little thing separately.
Anal is a porn-star experience. It's above and beyond what ladies normally do. And if you want the lady to take you on like a porn-star, then you need to pay her like one. Which involves paying extra for A+.
It doesn't make sense to expect the lady to be like a porn-star with you, while you refuse to pay her for her porn-star part. This isn't a fair exchange, and it's not going to work with most ladies.
A+ is becoming so popular, because that's what you see in a lot of porn films. And that's why paying for it in a similar way porn women get paid makes sense.Sorry Dan, disagree with you here. Again, the whole idea of the PSE shops was "all girls do everything" for a set price. And that was a quote from Saeng.
There is no way Thai ladies would be having sex with strangers, if they weren't getting paid for it. It's the money that makes it okay for them. Because money changes their feelings about it towards the positive.Dan, the hook-up culture here is out of control. Most of us are too old to enjoy it, but Thai gals are out having sex with "strangers" they hook up with on the net and in clubs in record numbers. I know lots of younger folks here (20's-30's) and they are having a blast. Thai gals are going through the same sexual liberation that Western women went through in the 60's. Gigs abound.
For newcomers like me (will be there early October) this kind of survey is invaluable, even though it's very individual taste and opinion of course of what one is looking for and likes. Myself I am very much about BBBJ (and CIM when ever possible) and I was therefore quite surprised to read in Parkville's report that only 1/4 of girls at Nataree provide BBBJ. Is it possible in suc places to know before choosing by asking mamasans for example or discussing it directly with the girl before making sure to go with her? Parkville, which place would you suggest to have a great or sure chance to get BBBJ from you own experience? Other punters suggestions welcome!I've been to Nataree a few times and have never had a BBBJ. The attraction of Nataree is the opportunity to screw some really, really, seriously beautiful young asian women although the service is not on the same scale at the PSE oilies. I normally only spend a day in BKK on the way to Pattaya, so these days I'd rather choose the kinkier services offered on Suk rather than the beauties of Nataree although the dream for me is the 2 combined.
Sorry Dan, disagree with you here. Again, the whole idea of the PSE shops was "all girls do everything" for a set price. And that was a quote from Saeng.I take the middle ground. I don't frequent Bamboo any more mainly because of the A+ surcharge. I now use Mango and Snow White although recently I have found the Bongkot girls to be in top form. In saying that though, If Ploy was to return to Bamboo, I would be back there like a rocket with the fee +500 B A+ surcharge in my hand and ready to go.
I've only had the pleasure of visiting Nataree before, so I thought why not try a different place?
Although I've heard Copa Cobana is supposed to be the best if not one of the best, I took a look at the website and didn't find any of their 3400-7200 models attractive. The actual selection on site is probably very different, but I would think they'd want to publish their best.
Since I've been to Nataree, I decided to try Emmanuelle. It's a much more massive looking place, a little intimidating actually given that the entrance is on the second floor and much less discreet than Nataree. Everybody from the main road can see you enter and exit. There are also touts all around trying to pull you into a soapy that they probably get commission from, and taxis parked and drivers milling about.
I arrived rather late (a no-no, I know, since the girls have probably had several customers already), but it was a weekday so maybe not so bad. When I entered, one of the papasans took me over to view the girls and started telling me who was young, who did what, etc. His English wasn't bad at all, and of course he spoke Chinese and Thai. I ended up picking one of the younger girls who had very white skin from Chiang Mai. A 2500 girl, and the papa asked for a tip directly. I gave him 200 thb dunno if that was too much.
Looks like I picked a pretty good one, she was bubbly and energetic despite not really speaking English. Took me up to the room, and helped me get settled while she filled the bath. Some hugging, banter, then the kit gets delivered. Clothes stayed on all the way until it was time to get in the bath. No nuru, not sure if it's because I didn't ask for it, or if it just isn't included here, just a decent wash. A little playing with jr, but no BJ. Actually ended up not having BJ at all, but I didn't insist. I will say it was kind of annoying that it took like 15 minutes to fill the tub. Waste of time.
Later on the bed, she wants to get right into it. I flip her over first for some DATY, and after 10-15 min, she says she came 2 x. She was pretty quiet but ended up shuddering a few times so I think I believe her No BJ because by now she was ready and so was I. I entered her slowly, since she was quite tight even though I'm not huge by any means. Seemed to enjoy it and was really sensitive to touch. A few positions, and finished in doggy.
The experience wasn't bad, I think it's a bit more expensive here, but maybe the girls are a tad prettier. But Nataree's facilities were a little larger and cleaner, and there were more girls (including sideliners) last time I went, though that could be a function of time of day and day of week. Worth a try though. I will say I wish these places didn't make it so blatant that it's a sex business, with gaudy posters of naked women everywhere. It's unnecessary and I would love a place that felt more upscale or genteel.
I've been to Nataree a few times and have never had a BBBJ. The attraction of Nataree is the opportunity to screw some really, really, seriously beautiful young asian women although the service is not on the same scale at the PSE oilies. I normally only spend a day in BKK on the way to Pattaya, so these days I'd rather choose the kinkier services offered on Suk rather than the beauties of Nataree although the dream for me is the 2 combined.Gan,
If you want for sure 100% BBBJ, go to Dream Heaven on Soi 33. It's a PSE oily. Probably get a hotel near there and setup camp is my recommendation.
However, if for some reason you have an itch for younger and more pale looking Asian women (Not from Isaan), go to the "soapies. " Ones such as Aliana / Colonze 2/ The Lord. These places are mostly visited by Asian men, locals who may be full Thai or Japanese / Chinese residents, etc. If you are new to Bangkok I'd say just relax when you go there. They like relaxed, soft spoken types.
As for anyone reading who wants to improve your odds with getting BBBK. Wash your d1 ck LOL. Seriously, if that area is in good shape smell wise, they'll be way more likely to provide if they weren't normally. Vinegar (regardless of circumcised or not), oddly enough, does a great job of removing dick / body odor for a few days. And travelers have that odor more so because they sweat more. Vinegar removes a smell that scrubbing / soap alone won't remove.
I take the middle ground. I don't frequent Bamboo any more mainly because of the A+ surcharge. I now use Mango and Snow White although recently I have found the Bongkot girls to be in top form. In saying that though, If Ploy was to return to Bamboo, I would be back there like a rocket with the fee +500 B A+ surcharge in my hand and ready to go.This is one of several topics that seem to come around regularly.
IMO, the definitive analysis was from the excellent Paul Kausch here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1708901#post1708901.
In case the URL above gets corrupted (which seems to be common with this software with long URLs), it's post number #11297 in this thread, titled "Extra fee for anal", 17 April 2015.
A belated thanks to Reef LostCause for the info.
As I wrote, I have forgotten the name of the place I scouted and Mitu does not really ring a bell.
In January, it definitely was not a lb-joint. It makes me physically sick just visualising.....There is Massage Club Mitu and Mitu LB. Both are in the plaza that used to have Akane and Peep Inn just down from Livingstones / Ocean on the LH side of Soi 33. Massage Club Mitu is on the upper level where as Akane used to be on the lower level with the car park. Mitu also opened a Japanese only place between Livingstones and the plaza with a street level door leading to some stairs going up to what was probably Livingstones rooms in the past. Also on the LH side further down is Love Teen and Dream Heaven.
If I remember correctly, on the RH side of the road is Akane's new (ish) shop, Demonia and a "nuru" shop further down that is pretty basic.
JackieChino
09-11-15, 07:23
Dan, the hook-up culture here is out of control. Most of us are too old to enjoy it, but Thai gals are out having sex with "strangers" they hook up with on the net and in clubs in record numbers. I know lots of younger folks here (20's-30's) and they are having a blast. Thai gals are going through the same sexual liberation that Western women went through in the 60's. Gigs abound.I agree with you Goatscrot.
I would say that the hook up culture in Bangkok is crazy! Its been going on for so long and its so part of their culture now that even a lot of wives / girlfriends accept the cuture of "mia noi", "gig" and "fan". However, the educated women in thailand are have slowly started to date more farangs and expats who can speak thai. The order of preference for most thai women seem to be firstly a wealthy thai, then an asian who can speak thai (preferably japanese / korean), and then expats / foreigners who can speak thai or working in thailand.
The one night stand scene is particularly interesting. It is more difficult to hook up in girls in the thai clubs / bars in the thong lor / ekkamai area. Thats where most of the upper class kids go. They are usually looking for celebrities or korean pop star look alikes. Then you have the other clubs along RCA and Sukhumvit, where you find university and office going girls who are more likely to hook up up foreigners. Lastly, you have the "shady" clubs like scratch dog, boss, etc, where there are hookers as well as low paid normal office girls who are looking for guys.
The easiest girls to hook up with seem to be the single office going ladies in their late 20 or early 30's who frequent the clubs. They are also better in bed than university students!
But then again, this is my opinion and it could be biased since I am asian.
Sorry got off the topic a bit here!
Thanks to everyone for all the pointers leading up to my BKK visit. Although, long due, finally writing back on my experience.
The visit unfortunately did not start very smoothly. I had high expectations of La Belle reading posts about good looking girls and decent service. But, I was disappointed.
I went in there and had a few beers waiting and watching the girls come in and go by. Being the only farang in the place at that time (7 pm) mamasan or papasan didn't approach me for a long time except handing over the price tag handout. Finally when I made eye contact with one of them and he came over, I asked for either Beu, Nadia or Op (given the good ratings from other readers here).
He advised that only Nadia was in today and she turned out to be one of the ones I had been eyeing. She had just come back from a session as she walked in and she was stunning truly. If I had seen her in a normal place, I would still turn to admire her. Although the rate he quoted me was expensive. I paid about 5000 THB for her (as she was apparently in the gold or platinum category. Can't remember).
Went in and what I saw was an amazing body to go with the face. But, all though out she was cold trying to do the minimum to impress and get by. Her soapy massage was ok but I didn't mind it with her beautiful body rubbing against mine. To ease her up, I tried many things I. E. Talking about her background, even giving her a massage and cleaning her with soap. But, nothing helped.
Eventually on the action, she didn't kiss, didn't let me rub her pussy and gave me a CBJ. All in all, avoidable IMHO.
All well. We win some, we lose some.
Thanks to everyone for all the pointers leading up to my BKK visit. Although, long due, finally writing back on my experience.
The visit unfortunately did not start very smoothly. I had high expectations of La Belle reading posts about good looking girls and decent service. But, I was disappointed.
I went in there and had a few beers waiting and watching the girls come in and go by. Being the only farang in the place at that time (7 pm) mamasan or papasan didn't approach me for a long time except handing over the price tag handout. Finally when I made eye contact with one of them and he came over, I asked for either Beu, Nadia or Op (given the good ratings from other readers here).
He advised that only Nadia was in today and she turned out to be one of the ones I had been eyeing. She had just come back from a session as she walked in and she was stunning truly. If I had seen her in a normal place, I would still turn to admire her. Although the rate he quoted me was expensive. I paid about 5000 THB for her (as she was apparently in the gold or platinum category. Can't remember).
Went in and what I saw was an amazing body to go with the face. But, all though out she was cold trying to do the minimum to impress and get by. Her soapy massage was ok but I didn't mind it with her beautiful body rubbing against mine. To ease her up, I tried many things I. E. Talking about her background, even giving her a massage and cleaning her with soap. But, nothing helped.
Eventually on the action, she didn't kiss, didn't let me rub her pussy and gave me a CBJ. All in all, avoidable IMHO.
All well. We win some, we lose some.I am by no means an monger-expert. But I'm just going to throw out this postulation: Most girls don't give good service on their second customer and onward. Minus the "working girl" types on suk, who are a bit older and really sex crazed. Hell they might even start to give better service to the latter customers. I just find that the younger (<25) girls get slightly jaded and slightly cold / distant rather often if I go later (after 6 PM). Oh one more thing, most of the people who go to those soapies are locals, and they only pre-book. They are also guaranteed to get good service. Otherwise they won't pre-book her again, and thus won't / may-not go. So unfortunately, you are competing with the locals who do have repeat visits and who eagerly pre-book the hottest ones there.
Dan, the hook-up culture here is out of control. Most of us are too old to enjoy it, but Thai gals are out having sex with "strangers" they hook up with on the net and in clubs in record numbers. I know lots of younger folks here (20's-30's) and they are having a blast. Thai gals are going through the same sexual liberation that Western women went through in the 60's. Gigs abound.This hook-up culture works only for young, rich, and good-looking guys. They are a small minority of guys. Such guys get to sleep around a lot, while most other guys remain deprived.
If you want to do it with a good-looking lady who is normally out of your league, then this lady will probably think that you are some kind of a pervert to want to do it with her. But if she is accepting monetary compensation from guys for this kind of thing, then this lady no longer has such bad feelings against you. The compensation she gets makes it okay for her.
My point here is that you can be seen as a pervert just for wanting to do it with a lady who is normally out of your league. But if do something to make the lady feel better, such as give her a significant amount of money, then at least some women in this situation will change their mind about it and do it with you.
And this is true not just for having sex in general but also when you want to do some specific sex act that isn't popular among women, such as A+ for example. A massage lady might see you as some kind of a pervert, when you want to do it for free. But when her friend tells her that she is making extra money this way. Then she might want to change her mind and do it too.
Of course it all depends on whether you are interested in A+ with the lady or not. If you have no interest in this, then you have no reason to pay her extra money to change her mind. It's just like you won't pay for sex with a lady whom you don't find attractive. The money is there to influence her feelings towards what you want.
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Went in and what I saw was an amazing body to go with the face. But, all though out she was cold trying to do the minimum to impress and get by. Her soapy massage was ok but I didn't mind it with her beautiful body rubbing against mine. To ease her up, I tried many things I. E. Talking about her background, even giving her a massage and cleaning her with soap. But, nothing helped.
Eventually on the action, she didn't kiss, didn't let me rub her pussy and gave me a CBJ. All in all, avoidable IMHO.
All well. We win some, we lose some.When the lady rubs her pussy on your thighs and on your ass, but she won't let you rub her pussy with your hand afterwards, then she isn't someone I would want to do it with.
Because pussy-rubbing with a well-lubricated hand is a sure way to change how the lady feels with you. You can do with well-lubricated fingers and hand even more than you can do with your mouth and tongue in cunnilingus. And you don't need to get into any special position with her. You can please her like this in any position, as long as you can reach her pussy with your hand.
When the lady lets you touch her pussy, then you have something to work with. And if you are good at it, then you'll probably arouse her sexual desire and change her feelings about you. But you have nothing to work with, when the lady won't even let you touch her pussy.
Ralph Kramden
09-11-15, 14:15
Thanks to everyone for all the pointers leading up to my BKK visit. Although, long due, finally writing back on my experience.
The visit unfortunately did not start very smoothly. I had high expectations of La Belle reading posts about good looking girls and decent service. But, I was disappointed.
I went in there and had a few beers waiting and watching the girls come in and go by. Being the only farang in the place at that time (7 pm) mamasan or papasan didn't approach me for a long time except handing over the price tag handout. Finally when I made eye contact with one of them and he came over, I asked for either Beu, Nadia or Op (given the good ratings from other readers here).
He advised that only Nadia was in today and she turned out to be one of the ones I had been eyeing. She had just come back from a session as she walked in and she was stunning truly. If I had seen her in a normal place, I would still turn to admire her. Although the rate he quoted me was expensive. I paid about 5000 THB for her (as she was apparently in the gold or platinum category. Can't remember).
Went in and what I saw was an amazing body to go with the face. But, all though out she was cold trying to do the minimum to impress and get by. Her soapy massage was ok but I didn't mind it with her beautiful body rubbing against mine. To ease her up, I tried many things I. E. Talking about her background, even giving her a massage and cleaning her with soap. But, nothing helped.
Eventually on the action, she didn't kiss, didn't let me rub her pussy and gave me a CBJ. All in all, avoidable IMHO.
All well. We win some, we lose some.She might have been worn out from the session before yours, and from the one before that and the one before that one.
Ralph Kramden Rule #1 for soapies: Try to avoid sloppy seconds at all costs and never knowingly take one. You should have arrived at 3 or 4 and hooked up with a fresh one preferably who has just returned from a few days off.
This hook-up culture works only for young, rich, and good-looking guys. They are a small minority of guys. Such guys get to sleep around a lot, while most other guys remain deprived.
Yeah but that's the mating culture everywhere, in every civilization. 20% of the guys are fucking 80% of the women, give or take. Marriage helps even that number out though, and is a way to recycle older women to sex deprived guys. I don't want to say all of that, nor do I want to believe that. But just because it sound bad, doesn't mean it isn't true.
LoveHole69
09-11-15, 15:50
Going off topic here.
I read some report awhile back forgot by who recommending akane chitlom for rimming.
So I had a few beers and turned up and wasn't impressed much with the lady's looks and none would give me eye contact which was odd as when I used to go to the pse places normally I would get a lot.
So I chose one biggish and darkish skin lady who had a bit of a dirty look.
To cut it short it was money totally down the drain and I wouldn't even try a 2nd time to see if it was a one off bad experience.
The experience consisted of stripping off naked lying on a table face down for a quick soaping then based on other mongers advice when asked about the finger I said OK after which the lady stuck 1 finger in the brown eye cleaned it a bit for a few seconds then rinsed me off.
Upstairs was a totally slow and crap massage after which a condom was applied for a crap blowjob when I failed to come after a few minutes I touched the lady's pussy which seemed to be pretty big and since I didn't feel any good service would be offered decided to make myself come.
So after that with an empty wallet I really wished ID off just gone and tried somebody else advice about getting good anal fucks with some of the girls in some haven.
LoveHole69
09-11-15, 16:14
I would like some advice from people like Goatscrot and Bkk or others who have long been at the pse shops and remember girls.
When the service had a lot of hardcore rimming and anal.
I read a report by Francesco that he has a mongering budget of 3000 a week to the guys who have more than this for 1 day you don't really.
Need to worry about getting a bad service with that kind of money I don't think you even need to visit a PSE shop to get what you want.
For us with low budgets we need to learn how to choose wisely when paying, I often find when paying the service is not as good as when getting a free go except at the PSE shops which I like because those girls are dirty and really appreciate a large Sicilian size schlong like mine, where the largest Italian stallions are to be found.
I tried Dao back in the day but actually preferred the services of girls like cee nestle and some others who I can't remember, I seem to remember cee as my favorite due to the relaxed way she provided everything, Dao was a little mechanical and aggressive but still looked good despite having a baby, one more one I didn't like was April apart from that it was excellent.
So I would like advice now on what girls are up to to that level, run who is now with an american in Phuket was well known in snow white for rimming right inside the guys hole with her tongue.
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Michelangelo
09-12-15, 03:07
Going off topic here.
I read some report awhile back forgot by who recommending akane chitlom for rimming.
So I had a few beers and turned up and wasn't impressed much with the lady's looks and none would give me eye contact which was odd as when I used to go to the pse places normally I would get a lot.
So I chose one biggish and darkish skin lady who had a bit of a dirty look.
To cut it short it was money totally down the drain and I wouldn't even try a 2nd time to see if it was a one off bad experience.
The experience consisted of stripping off naked lying on a table face down for a quick soaping then based on other mongers advice when asked about the finger I said OK after which the lady stuck 1 finger in the brown eye cleaned it a bit for a few seconds then rinsed me off.
Upstairs was a totally slow and crap massage after which a condom was applied for a crap blowjob when I failed to come after a few minutes I touched the lady's pussy which seemed to be pretty big and since I didn't feel any good service would be offered decided to make myself come.
So after that with an empty wallet I really wished ID off just gone and tried somebody else advice about getting good anal fucks with some of the girls in some haven.Akane Chitlom is not the best location to experience Akane service. I recommend you try Akane on Soi 33. Go for the 90 minutes Special massage. Try Natsumi, nice girl. Been with her twice and she always gets naked for a joint shower, nice hot lotion massage followed by BBBJ and covered FS. Not a PSE experience, but an enjoyable session.
Hey gents, just want to confirm. Nataree and Emmanuelle, and all the places by Huai Khwang are discussed in this thread, right? Just wondering since I haven't really seen them discussed in the last few pages.
Also-- what is the tip expectation after the girl? The first time (Nat) the girl asked for a 500 thb tip, the second time I went (them) no request or indication of a tip expectation (though the papasan did ask).
200 thb for papa ok?
Had Guitar and Yaya from candy masage for night outcall ST at our hotel rooms. (2 buddies taking one each in separate rooms, of course).
Excellent service. NO to nothing. Everything available on menu and that too with smile.
Had shower, bath tub soapy, with BBBJ, then oil massage b2 be on bed, Excellent BJ skills with tea bagging, rimming, etc.
Then the FS in all positions and including A+ with lubes. (Did A+ first time and enjoyed it, it is somewhat different).
2 shots.
Damage:3 k / girl.
Hey gents, just want to confirm. Nataree and Emmanuelle, and all the places by Huai Khwang are discussed in this thread, right? Just wondering since I haven't really seen them discussed in the last few pages.
Also-- what is the tip expectation after the girl? The first time (Nat) the girl asked for a 500 thb tip, the second time I went (them) no request or indication of a tip expectation (though the papasan did ask).
200 thb for papa ok?I recently wrote about the places Nataree and Emmanuelle here a few days ago. I would avoid both, and kind of for the reasons you are asking about.
I really have been turned off by Emmanuelle, and I will not be going back. Everyone there is very high pressure on tips. Both the staff and the women. It's like being a scammy gogo bar. You are not supposed to tip these people. They are working there and paid well by management. Paid well by all the massive amounts of money that flows thru there.
Nataree is generally better to avoid. You can read recent reports in this thread to get a better idea. I never had them ask me for a tip, but probably because they that know I go there a lot. You are not supposed to tip ever. And 500 baht tip is insane, what a scamming. You got hustled.
For Huai Kwang, go to Colonze 2, Alaina or (if you want a really swanky place) The Lord.
Had Guitar and Yaya from candy masage for night outcall ST at our hotel rooms. (2 buddies taking one each in separate rooms, of course).
Excellent service. NO to nothing. Everything available on menu and that too with smile.
Had shower, bath tub soapy, with BBBJ, then oil massage b2 be on bed, Excellent BJ skills with tea bagging, rimming, etc.
Then the FS in all positions and including A+ with lubes. (Did A+ first time and enjoyed it, it is somewhat different).
2 shots.
Damage:3 k / girl.Thank you so much for sharing!
I'm living outside of Bangkok for the foreseeable future. These vicarious experiences help keep me going until I return.
Judging by the g-string panties, I'd guess that at least one of the two girls shaves. One thing I liked about the Eden Club is that all the girls knew what a razor is, or were required to shave. I wouldn't mind seeing that info included in reports.
Akane Chitlom is not the best location to experience Akane service. I recommend you try Akane on Soi 33. Go for the 90 minutes Special massage. Try Natsumi, nice girl. Been with her twice and she always gets naked for a joint shower, nice hot lotion massage followed by BBBJ and covered FS. Not a PSE experience, but an enjoyable session.Thank you for this! I once received a little BBBJ at Akane, but otherwise it's been condom BJ only. They rarely if ever get naked in the shower.
You've sold me on Natsumi. I can only hope she's still there when I return.
For rimming, I still endorse Emi. I don't know if she'll do a BBBJ, but I've never asked her. Her tongue does a very thorough job of rectum scrubbing. I half expect to see her nose come out my nose.
Going off topic here.
I read some report awhile back forgot by who recommending akane chitlom for rimming.
So I had a few beers and turned up and wasn't impressed much with the lady's looks and none would give me eye contact which was odd as when I used to go to the pse places normally I would get a lot.
So I chose one biggish and darkish skin lady who had a bit of a dirty look.
To cut it short it was money totally down the drain and I wouldn't even try a 2nd time to see if it was a one off bad experience.
The experience consisted of stripping off naked lying on a table face down for a quick soaping then based on other mongers advice when asked about the finger I said OK after which the lady stuck 1 finger in the brown eye cleaned it a bit for a few seconds then rinsed me off.
Upstairs was a totally slow and crap massage after which a condom was applied for a crap blowjob when I failed to come after a few minutes I touched the lady's pussy which seemed to be pretty big and since I didn't feel any good service would be offered decided to make myself come.
So after that with an empty wallet I really wished ID off just gone and tried somebody else advice about getting good anal fucks with some of the girls in some haven.That might have been me who suggested Akane Chitlom for rimming. Emi (or Eni) rivals Ice when it comes to rimming. It seems that all the girls are from Khon kaen except for Emi, who heralds from Chiang Rai.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience. I've had a couple of girls who are less than accommodating, but usually the massage is not crap and the girls will take any position I request to make it easy for me to grope both holes to my heart's content. DATY is on the menu.
The 1,700 baht massage, where a second girl joins in for the last 20 minutes, might be a good idea. If the first girl is a dud, the second might not be.
Again, it's a shame that your first trip was a disappointment.
Gan,
If you want for sure 100% BBBJ, go to Dream Heaven on Soi 33. It's a PSE oily. Probably get a hotel near there and setup camp is my recommendation.Does Dream Heaven still offer "massage only" with two girls for the price of one? Then, one of the girls will ask if you want full service for a tip of 1,500 to each girl? At the time, this made Dream Heaven a couple of hundred baht more expensive than the Eden Club.
I had no idea they were PSE and didn't ask for CIM or A+ or for anything lesbian. I was impressed by how well the girls worked together in the shower. They were nice showers, too. On one visit there was a huge tub in the room and the shower was in the tub. On another visit the shower was not in the room but was still very nice, with rocks and plants, etc.
Yeah but that's the mating culture everywhere, in every civilization. 20% of the guys are fucking 80% of the women, give or take. Marriage helps even that number out though, and is a way to recycle older women to sex deprived guys. I don't want to say all of that, nor do I want to believe that. But just because it sound bad, doesn't mean it isn't true.The thing about marriage is that this is just another way of doing P4P. It's like P4P with the same partner for life, or at least until you get divorced. Which sounds little bit like a bad nightmare. Because when people aren't free to leave, then they often start abusing each other.
In Thailand, marriage is openly P4P. Because the guy is supposed to pay a large dowry either to the bride or to her parents, when he is marrying her. But even in western countries, women usually look for guys who are richer and have better incomes than they have. Marriage becomes an open P4P in the west only when people get divorced. This is when you might have to pay large sums of money and give to the lady some property too. In theory, it can go either way between the lady and her guy. But in practice, it's the guy who almost always pays. Because most women make sure that they marry a richer guy than they are.
Perhaps marriage was a reasonable way to do it, when sex was inseparable from having children. Because children needed to be taken care of. But now that people can have sex without reproduction, marriage is an inferior way of doing P4P. Because people in marriage aren't free to be or not to be with each other. And this often leads to people treating each other unfairly, because they know that the other person can't easily leave.
A lot of people look down on women, who care about money in their relationship with a guy. But I'd say that the reason why women care so much about the money is the same reason why guys care so much about the looks. And this reason is human biology.
Women care so much about the money and other types of resources, because this is what it takes for a woman to reproduce safely and without too much trouble. The woman can't easily take care of herself, when she is pregnant and / or has small children. She needs the guy's money and resources in such a situation. Women who didn't care about the guy's money and resources in the past probably didn't leave a lot of children behind. And that's why their attitude didn't survive.
And guys care so much about women's looks, because the best-looking women are usually the fittest for reproduction. They can have more and better children than other women. Guys, who didn't care about women's looks in the past, didn't leave a lot of children behind. And that's why their attitude didn't survive.
I'd say that taking the money out of it and forcing people to do it for free destroys people's desire to have relationships with each other. Because this is an un-natural way of doing it in terms of human biology. That's why so many people in the west are lonely and unable to find good relationships.
Money is one big thing that makes guys attractive for women. And if you take the money out of this equation, then a lot of guys end up being lonely, while only about 20% of guys get to sleep around a lot. It's an artificial situation created by culture and government, who prevent people from behaving naturally with each other.
LoveHole69
09-12-15, 12:17
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Had Guitar and Yaya from candy masage for night outcall ST at our hotel rooms. (2 buddies taking one each in separate rooms, of course).Hey Raju 1974 - Good to hear you are on the ground in BKK and putting the intel received from ISG to good use. Party on!!
SL.
Gan,
If you want for sure 100% BBBJ, go to Dream Heaven on Soi 33. It's a PSE oily. Probably get a hotel near there and setup camp is my recommendation.
.BBBJ is not PSE. I haven't had a covered BJ for many years. I have been to see a girl I knew who moved to Dream Heaven in 33. She was not at all PSE.
This hook-up culture works only for young, rich, and good-looking guys. They are a small minority of guys. Such guys get to sleep around a lot, while most other guys remain deprived.
If you want to do it with a good-looking lady who is normally out of your league, then this lady will probably think that you are some kind of a pervert to want to do it with her. But if she is accepting monetary compensation from guys for this kind of thing, then this lady no longer has such bad feelings against you. The compensation she gets makes it okay for her.
My point here is that you can be seen as a pervert just for wanting to do it with a lady who is normally out of your league. But if do something to make the lady feel better, such as give her a significant amount of money, then at least some women in this situation will change their mind about it and do it with you.
And this is true not just for having sex in general but also when you want to do some specific sex act that isn't popular among women, such as A+ for example. A massage lady might see you as some kind of a pervert, when you want to do it for free. But when her friend tells her that she is making extra money this way. Then she might want to change her mind and do it too.
Of course it all depends on whether you are interested in A+ with the lady or not. If you have no interest in this, then you have no reason to pay her extra money to change her mind. It's just like you won't pay for sex with a lady whom you don't find attractive. The money is there to influence her feelings towards what you want.Your post shows that you're way out of touch with the regular scene Dan. Full disclosure, yes I'm young and I speak Thai but, I'm not rich, not Asian, not white and whether or not I'm good looking would vary from person to person. With that said I hook up with good looking girls all the time in Bangkok. Girls of all walks of life. Rich Bangkok girls, hard working girls from other provinces, regular bar hopping sluts, university girls, high school girls (over 18), food vendors, business owners, receptionists, flight attendants, nurses and many others. No money changes hands with these girls and I don't entice them with promises of marriage or gifts. They like me, I like them and that's how it goes.
As far as your pervert comments, what these girls like sexually will vary as much as the girls themselves. I have an 18 year old high school girl from Hua Hin that likes to lick my ass for her enjoyment, I have a 28 year old business owner from Nakhon Sawan that likes to be choked, I have an H. I. S. office girl that comes from being fucked in the ass, and the list goes on and on. Prostitutes do sex acts for money, we know this, but there are many girls that do what they like with who they like for nothing at all. The effort is minimal on my part. I simply stay in touch through Line and meet up with who I want when I'm free. Who I choose usually depends on what I'm in the mood for. The H. I. S. Girl stays in heavy rotation because I love buttfucking and she likes it in the ass. She also lives close to me. When I want a really good BJ I know restaurant owner that loves to watch movies and suck dick. Every now and then a girl leaves the rotation because of a steady boyfriend or moving away for work. I promptly replace her with a new girl and move on. Just today I had three girls that wanted to meet and passed on all three since I just wanted to walk around alone and relax.
If you want, I'd be glad to bring you up to speed with the regular girl scene Dan. You would have to check your outdated opinion at the door though. Cheers.
Had Guitar and Yaya from candy masage for night outcall ST at our hotel rooms. (2 buddies taking one each in separate rooms, of course).
Excellent service. NO to nothing. Everything available on menu and that too with smile.
Had shower, bath tub soapy, with BBBJ, then oil massage b2 be on bed, Excellent BJ skills with tea bagging, rimming, etc.
Then the FS in all positions and including A+ with lubes. (Did A+ first time and enjoyed it, it is somewhat different).
2 shots.
Damage:3 k / girl.Based on the photographs attached I am guesing you were with Yaya. Thank you for sharing the FR. Any other pics of Guitar.
Planning to try 3 some with Yaya and Guitar. Will talk to Candy about it and their chemistry.
Have fun and always safe sex.
Later.
Hey gents, just want to confirm. Nataree and Emmanuelle, and all the places by Huai Khwang are discussed in this thread, right? Just wondering since I haven't really seen them discussed in the last few pages.
Also-- what is the tip expectation after the girl? The first time (Nat) the girl asked for a 500 thb tip, the second time I went (them) no request or indication of a tip expectation (though the papasan did ask).
200 thb for papa ok?500 thb is the tip I usually give. Have been pretty lucky with good service too. The only time I tipped less than 500 was at Annies when the service sucked onetime. With all the girls I have been in Bangkok, never did a girl insist on a tip. Suprised that someone did ask you.
Papa unless he / she is very helpful I avoid tipping or if I am going to repeat the venue again the next day. I used to tip between 100-200.
Later Have fun.
Based on the photographs attached I am guesing you were with Yaya. Thank you for sharing the FR. Any other pics of Guitar.
Planning to try 3 some with Yaya and Guitar. Will talk to Candy about it and their chemistry.
Have fun and always safe sex.
Later.Chemistry between them is good yaya is senior and guitar her obidient, sincere junior. Both are good go ahead with the 3 some and post FR.
Yes you are right I was with Yaya. She's bit more experienced and she says she is 24. Guitar is 20.
I had been to mango. Had 2 stunning from hoho in last 2 days. But service was not comparable to that of Yaya.
Annie's: Mammasan was quite rude. Didn't allow drinks while sitting outside to select from fishbowl. Any way selected one. Service was good although was having stony hard silicone implants. Routine shower soapy slide and then massage and FS. I think 2 hrs is toomuch if anyone wants to cum once. Otherwise they will make you twice. Once while bath and then during FS.
Damage:2300 2 hrs.
Mango massage: no stunning girls. Howeve are selected one and went upstairs in the room. Rooms and dingy. Bath area in quite poor condition. Wasted much time then in hopeless oil massage and then asked her to go the Full session. Had her in all positions- miss, cowboy and finished in doggy. She did also provide BBBJ, although I preferred to have CBBJ. Didn't allow to take pics.
Damages:1900- 1 HR.
Speaking of sloppy seconds at soapies. I am looking to avoid women who work too much (too many days in a row and / or too many customers before I get there). One thing I noticed with women who are sloppy seconds is that sometimes they religiously wash their hoo-haah (ie: pussy) while I am towel drying off. It's like they're trying to wash the smell of sex out (which makes sense, I wouldn't want to smell that either). That's usually the final sign I need, but at this point it's too late.
It's hard for me to know which women are fresh that day / week without having a good papasan / mamasan contact. So I am going to just pick a single soapy, and get a sales contact there, and he / she will be my guide on which hoo-haahs (again, code for pussy) are fresh that week / day. I think in general, the service they provide is the most important service at a soapy: recommendations and pre-booking already proven women (who others mongers will be trying to prebook).
Speaking of sloppy seconds at soapies. I am looking to avoid women who work too much (too many days in a row and / or too many customers before I get there). One thing I noticed with women who are sloppy seconds is that sometimes they religiously wash their hoo-haah (ie: pussy) while I am towel drying off. It's like they're trying to wash the smell of sex out (which makes sense, I wouldn't want to smell that either). That's usually the final sign I need, but at this point it's too late.
I prefer women who "religiously" wash their pussies to those who don't and think your theory about how it indicates they work too much is a bit too creative. It is those who do not wash their pussies religiously that I try to avoid, although this is not exactly something you can pre-screen in an interview.
I recently wrote about the places Nataree and Emmanuelle here a few days ago. I would avoid both, and kind of for the reasons you are asking about.
I really have been turned off by Emmanuelle, and I will not be going back. Everyone there is very high pressure on tips. Both the staff and the women. It's like being a scammy gogo bar. You are not supposed to tip these people. They are working there and paid well by management. Paid well by all the massive amounts of money that flows thru there.
Nataree is generally better to avoid. You can read recent reports in this thread to get a better idea. I never had them ask me for a tip, but probably because they that know I go there a lot. You are not supposed to tip ever. And 500 baht tip is insane, what a scamming. You got hustled.
For Huai Kwang, go to Colonze 2, Alaina or (if you want a really swanky place) The Lord.Thanks for confirming-- I guess I did get hustled out of 700 baht between the two places. Will check out the other places next time!
Your post shows that you're way out of touch with the regular scene Dan. Full disclosure, yes I'm young and I speak Thai but, I'm not rich, not Asian, not white and whether or not I'm good looking would vary from person to person. With that said I hook up with good looking girls all the time in Bangkok. Girls of all walks of life. Rich Bangkok girls, hard working girls from other provinces, regular bar hopping sluts, university girls, high school girls (over 18), food vendors, business owners, receptionists, flight attendants, nurses and many others. No money changes hands with these girls and I don't entice them with promises of marriage or gifts. They like me, I like them and that's how it goes....
I can speak only from my own experience. And my experience has been very different from yours.
Everyone's experience is valid. But it's hard to know whose experience is more usual, without doing some kind of a statistical study of a large sample of people. Because you always have unusual people, when you deal with individuals. But when you take many individuals at random, then they average out, and you get what normally happens for most people.
But I don't think there is any dispute about the fact that A+ isn't very popular among most massage women. Most massage women need some incentive and persuasion to overcome their reluctance to do it. And the usual way for a guy to provide such an incentive is to offer some extra money to the lady, even if she doesn't ask for it.
This is just common sense. But on top of this, my point is that even paying extra to ladies who normally do A+ is an indirect way to get more ladies to do A+. Because ladies talk with each other, and they often imitate each other too, especially when there is some extra money in it for them.
Your post shows that you're way out of touch with the regular scene Dan. Full disclosure, yes I'm young and I speak Thai but, I'm not rich, not Asian, not white and whether or not I'm good looking would vary from person to person. With that said I hook up with good looking girls all the time in Bangkok. Girls of all walks of life. Rich Bangkok girls, hard working girls from other provinces, regular bar hopping sluts, university girls, high school girls (over 18), food vendors, business owners, receptionists, flight attendants, nurses and many others. No money changes hands with these girls and I don't entice them with promises of marriage or gifts. They like me, I like them and that's how it goes.
As far as your pervert comments, what these girls like sexually will vary as much as the girls themselves. I have an 18 year old high school girl from Hua Hin that likes to lick my ass for her enjoyment, I have a 28 year old business owner from Nakhon Sawan that likes to be choked, I have an H. I. S. office girl that comes from being fucked in the ass, and the list goes on and on. Prostitutes do sex acts for money, we know this, but there are many girls that do what they like with who they like for nothing at all. The effort is minimal on my part. I simply stay in touch through Line and meet up with who I want when I'm free. Who I choose usually depends on what I'm in the mood for. The H. I. S. Girl stays in heavy rotation because I love buttfucking and she likes it in the ass. She also lives close to me. When I want a really good BJ I know restaurant owner that loves to watch movies and suck dick. Every now and then a girl leaves the rotation because of a steady boyfriend or moving away for work. I promptly replace her with a new girl and move on. Just today I had three girls that wanted to meet and passed on all three since I just wanted to walk around alone and relax.
If you want, I'd be glad to bring you up to speed with the regular girl scene Dan. You would have to check your outdated opinion at the door though. Cheers.If you have a lot of ladies wanting to fuck you for free what the fuck are you doing in this forum!
I am old, bald, fat and must pay for it and that is why I am looking for hints in this forum.
You should go in the "Playboy" forum, if there is one.
I prefer women who "religiously" wash their pussies to those who don't and think your theory about how it indicates they work too much is a bit too creative. It is those who do not wash their pussies religiously that I try to avoid, although this is not exactly something you can pre-screen in an interview.Yeah I was hoping I was onto something there LOL. Either that or I like dirty pussies and I'm just weird like that.
I think I'm just going to pick a single soapy, and build a business relationship with one of the sales / managers there. He / she can tell me who's new on rotation, who's good service, send me photos of new girls. I can then prune the talent that I am looking for there instead of rolling the die. I also think pre-booking is the way to go because the best ones get pre-booked by the locals. Just showing up and you will have whatever the locals don't want (or don't want anymore) pushed onto you. But if you call, then the only way that they can establish your actual business is to provide you with what you want instead of whatever they are trying to get rid of.
Thank you for this! I once received a little BBBJ at Akane, but otherwise it's been condom BJ only. They rarely if ever get naked in the shower.
You've sold me on Natsumi. I can only hope she's still there when I return.
For rimming, I still endorse Emi. I don't know if she'll do a BBBJ, but I've never asked her. Her tongue does a very thorough job of rectum scrubbing. I half expect to see her nose come out my nose.For 3 years, I used to be a regular with M***** who has unfortunately left Akane, quite soon after they moved to th other side of Soi 33 and I have never been back since.
The first time, she was quite "shy", strictly "no bum bum", although she did perform a great BBBJ.
The second time, I had her swap places with me on that funny Sukube chair in the shower. She apparently enjoyed the treatment and from then on, it was "anything goes".
She didn't particularly like A+, so I didn't insist, but otherwise everything you can immagine was on the menu. She (i.e. we) even started forgetting the condoms.
I still miss her, but do intend to sample Akane33 again in January, if time and stamina permit.
Yeah I was hoping I was onto something there LOL. Either that or I like dirty pussies and I'm just weird like that.
I think I'm just going to pick a single soapy, and build a business relationship with one of the sales / managers there. He / she can tell me who's new on rotation, who's good service, send me photos of new girls. I can then prune the talent that I am looking for there instead of rolling the die. I also think pre-booking is the way to go because the best ones get pre-booked by the locals. Just showing up and you will have whatever the locals don't want (or don't want anymore) pushed onto you. But if you call, then the only way that they can establish your actual business is to provide you with what you want instead of whatever they are trying to get rid of.Takes time to find a really good mamasan / papasan that knows what you like. Not that many are totally honest. Many have their special girls that they get a kickback for recommending to newbies, even if the girls are crap. Some won't recommend very good girls, simply because they don't know them or those girls are not on their special list. It's is sometimes like they have a stable of girls they know/recommend (subset of the whole lot) and get kickbacks from.
Sometimes the taste of the papasan is completely different to my own. He recommends girls that are way different from my taste. Thai men like something different to me.
Okay The cheer persons may know if the girl performs well. May or may not know if she is dick scared or kisses. Hopefully will know if she has a baby or has silicones or saggy tits.
I have very few cheer persons that I could rely on for help. Only tip if the recommendation proved to be a big success. Then tip them well if advice was very helpful (afterwards). You don't want them to get any money for recommending a dud girl, above the kick-back.
Takes time to find a really good mamasan / papasan that knows what you like. Not that many are totally honest. Many have their special girls that they get a kickback for recommending to newbies, even if the girls are crap. Some won't recommend very good girls, simply because they don't know them or those girls are not on their special list. It's is sometimes like they have a stable of girls they know/recommend (subset of the whole lot) and get kickbacks from.
Sometimes the taste of the papasan is completely different to my own. He recommends girls that are way different from my taste. Thai men like something different to me.
Okay The cheer persons may know if the girl performs well. May or may not know if she is dick scared or kisses. Hopefully will know if she has a baby or has silicones or saggy tits.
I have very few cheer persons that I could rely on for help. Only tip if the recommendation proved to be a big success. Then tip them well if advice was very helpful (afterwards). You don't want them to get any money for recommending a dud girl, above the kick-back.From my own experience I would say that the most reliable recommendation you can get is when the lady recommends herself to you.
It's when the lady looks at you, makes eye-contact with you and shows some desire to go with you. And of course, several ladies might do this at the same time. And some of them might even be equally eager to go with you. And this is when you end up choosing the lady by her looks, or perhaps coming back and doing the other ladies too.
Self-recommendation works so well in this situation because the lady needs to be in the mood to enjoy with you. Or else she just ends up doing her time with you, without enjoying herself. And if she isn't enjoying it, then neither will you. Such feelings are contagious, when people spend time together.
The most important part of any encounter is how people relate to each other on the personal level. And it's true that some massage ladies are consistently better than others, when it comes to relating to their customers. But not everybody recommends ladies on this basis. People can recommend her to you because of her looks or for some other reason. But when the lady is good at relating to her customers, then most of the time you can see this for yourself, when you first encounter her.
The only way recommendations of others might be reliable, is when you know the reason why others are recommending the lady to you. Because then you can decide whether this reason is something you want or not. It's like in this forum, some guys might recommend you a lady who is good at doing A+. And if that's what you are looking for, then she might be the one for you to check out.
Can anyone enlighten me if Candy / Beer is still working regular rosters? I see her on the Candy massage website but don't see many reviews here or PP so don't know. Lot of discussion around Yaya and Guitar.
I'm in BKK in November (twice) and hope to see her.
Can anyone enlighten me if Candy / Beer is still working regular rosters? I see her on the Candy massage website but don't see many reviews here or PP so don't know. Lot of discussion around Yaya and Guitar.Candy responded to my email pretty quickly and in a helpful manner: candy28beer28@ymail.com.
SunLover.
I finally arrived to Bangkok and it's amazing! It's impossible to not find ladies all around (and even some lady boys). Since it's my first time here I had to do some reconissance to scope out the area of Nana. Found NEP and the famous Nana plaza hotel sign and I knew I was at the right place. It was around 5:30 pm so not much going on yet but once it gets dark, it's a completely different story. Walked around till about 8 ish and finally decided to spend some money. I saw all these ladies with their flimsy papers of prices for massages not knowing if they offer FS. Their sign said 300 baht for an hour massage so I said what the hell, worst thing that can happen is I leave with an hours massage. Went in, took off my shoes and into this room where the girl covered my little space with curtains. She was cute and I don't remember the name of the place, but it was on Soi 4. During the massage I can hear the Indian guy in the next curtained room next to me breathing heavy and the girl too. I made a gesture to my girl and she laughed. I still want sure if certain girls did FS and maybe mine didn't. About 45 min into the massage she asked if I wanted FS for 1000 baht and I said sure. She noticed the size of my dick and wanted 1500, but we already said 1000 and she didn't give me problems with that. Total damage 1400 baht including massage fee and tip.
Wasn't done with the night so went over to Annie's (I know there's a Annie's forum but why split up a good story?) saw the mean mamasan who kinda rushed the customers. Decided on #4 and she was the prettiest of the bunch. Typical what you'd read on this forums. Pay 2500 baht for 2 hours. Get soaped up, bathed up and fuck.
Day 2 continues.
Dino,
Nice, but try to remember some names of places and girls next time. At least you got "No. 4" which helps.
A little more detail about how the girl looked and how she performed, would be nice, otherwise seems like the session was very boring. I have see pics of number 4, so I know slim nice body, but face hidden.
LoveHole69
09-15-15, 09:27
Ixgzca,
This is very true, my circumstances don't permit trying to hook up with lady, but years ago I spent most of my free time doing this.
Unfortunately I can't speak Thai so I had to settle on hooking up with regular hookers, a lot of hookers are obviously not being satisfied by their customers otherwise they wouldn't be so easy to pick up and I'm not particularly handsome either my only strategy was a few hundred calisthenics each day to keep hard and lean which is what they seem to like I suppose they are sick of soft Viagra enhanced customers they have to work hard to satisfy for their job.
LoveHole69
09-15-15, 09:46
I agree with your comment the best strategy is a lady recommending herself what is the point of wasting time and money trying to find a good papa or mamasan. Most aren't really going to know the lady's service unless they were in the room watching the performance. Usually I find mamasans to be a bit more useful than their male equivalents and can definitely be of use to hint which lady's provide anal or certain other services but there's not really any need to tip them since their job is to provide what you ask for otherwise the customers will simply choose to go somewhere else.
If I remember correctly, medium length hair, skinny with smaller sized tits. No tattoos, 2 kids and from Islaan. That's about all I can remember. Oh and she can cowgirl like she's in a rodeo.
Today strolled down to Mango for a session with Nita, her pic Is on their website. Fake tits but that's my preference anyways. Paid 1900 baht, not sure if that's the going rate. She let me pop twice, first through BJ and second through reverse cowgirl. These really are PSE places with the accept that she didn't do A+ which again I'm ok with.
Dino,
Nice, but try to remember some names of places and girls next time. At least you got "No. 4" which helps.
A little more detail about how the girl looked and how she performed, would be nice, otherwise seems like the session was very boring. I have see pics of number 4, so I know slim nice body, but face hidden.
Besides Annie's, are there any other soapies in Sukhumvit? There's something about the fishbowl that is so appealing.
Christian G
09-15-15, 16:43
Besides Annie's, are there any other soapies in Sukhumvit? There's something about the fishbowl that is so appealing.Darling Massage. Soi 12 Sukhumvit.
Darling Massage. Soi 12 Sukhumvit.Used to be great in the latter part of last century but it went down hill 20 yeras ago- and, in fairness, I havenot been back. Nor by the lack of reports have many others.
If you do o, do report; I will be in BKK in November and would be happy to re-visit if it gets a good report.
Can anyone enlighten me if Candy / Beer is still working regular rosters? I see her on the Candy massage website but don't see many reviews here or PP so don't know. Lot of discussion around Yaya and Guitar.
I'm in BKK in November (twice) and hope to see her.Last time I visited her shop, I told her that the next time I return I will come back for her. She said she doesn't service customers anymore. I asked why her pictures was up on the website. She said because more choices on the website and it made it look like more girls available.
That said, I got the feeling that she told me 'no' because she specifically didn't want me as a customer. For reasons I won't go into.
On the other hand, her pics are now down so that does imply she is out of rotation.
Last time I visited her shop, I told her that the next time I return I will come back for her. She said she doesn't service customers anymore. I asked why her pictures was up on the website. She said because more choices on the website and it made it look like more girls available.
That said, I got the feeling that she told me 'no' because she specifically didn't want me as a customer. For reasons I won't go into.
On the other hand, her pics are now down so that does imply she is out of rotation.The couple of times I visited her shop last month, she was sitting behind the reception desk and there was no indication she was available for sessions; I assumed she was not given she directed me to the area behind her to look at the available girls and she did not join them or otherwise indicate her availability..
Day 2 - as previously posted, already hit up Mango yesterday. And to continue, walked around terminal 21 to recover. Took the bts back to Nana, really easy to navigate, but I'm not sure about taking the transfer to the MRT cause it looks intimidating. Anyway, back at Nana there are all these massage places with no names where the girls are just hanging about out front. There was this one across from Strikers, they waved me over so sure, followed the lady up the stairs and into the room. Her English was shit and I didn't understand what she was saying, the one this I did understand was "3000 baht", at that point I put my clothes back on and left. I could have gone across to Annie's for 2500 baht for better quality and better service. Looking back now, I don't regret leaving due to saving money and she was t that pretty in the light anyways. Made my way back to majestic grande, had some dinner and was ready to head back out, but this damn rain wasted a night! Around 11:30 decided to call it a night. I'm leaving tomorrow and the forecast is scheduled to rain the rest of the way. Any advice on how to make the best of the rest of the trip?
Wolvenvacht
09-16-15, 07:17
I'm leaving tomorrow and the forecast is scheduled to rain the rest of the way. Any advice on how to make the best of the rest of the trip?Why don't you buy yourself an umbrella and walk over to Eden Club in Sukhumvit 7/1 and get a 90 minutes threesome? They open as from the early afternoon.
Darling Massage. Soi 12 Sukhumvit.Some say big changes occurred in recent times. I always hated it in times long gone by. Never had a really memorable girl there worth repeating. Of course I was too fussy about the looks. Did try Darling 2 or 3 times and that was enough. Other times left without choosing a girl.
Managed to have a good time at Dr. BJ Nuru 2 or 3 times with skinny Pat. She is pretty if you don't need big tits.
My favourite Soapy in last years has been Amsterdam. Its not that far away by Underground to Rama 9. La Belle is much closer still but I have struggled to find good service girls there. Low success rate. Too many dick scared. Also I do not like the La Belle Jacuzzis. Worst ones around.
However both of these Soapies are in a much higher class than Darling, Annies, etc.
Day 2 - as previously posted, already hit up Mango yesterday. And to continue, walked around terminal 21 to recover. Took the bts back to Nana, really easy to navigate, but I'm not sure about taking the transfer to the MRT cause it looks intimidating. Anyway, back at Nana there are all these massage places with no names where the girls are just hanging about out front. There was this one across from Strikers, they waved me over so sure, followed the lady up the stairs and into the room. Her English was shit and I didn't understand what she was saying, the one this I did understand was "3000 baht", at that point I put my clothes back on and left. I could have gone across to Annie's for 2500 baht for better quality and better service. Looking back now, I don't regret leaving due to saving money and she was t that pretty in the light anyways. Made my way back to majestic grande, had some dinner and was ready to head back out, but this damn rain wasted a night! Around 11:30 decided to call it a night. I'm leaving tomorrow and the forecast is scheduled to rain the rest of the way. Any advice on how to make the best of the rest of the trip?WTF, Its rainy season. Farangs don't care if its raining. OK Some go go girls will stay home.
You need a good strong umbrella for Bangkok. If you have only long pants, you might need to roll up the legs. LOL. I never got too worried about rain. Catch BTS or a taxi to avoid walking too long in rain. Never got struck by lighting yet. Getting bombed is more likely.
I wear sandals, not shoes and socks. If wet, no big deal. Doesn't take long to dry off
I'm leaving tomorrow and the forecast is scheduled to rain the rest of the way. Any advice on how to make the best of the rest of the trip?Bamboo Massage on soi 8 is not to far and gets very good PSE oily reviews.
SL.
Thanks Syzygies and ChristianG for the spots to hit up. I ended up going to both. First stop was Dr BJ salon and met up with F: Consultant Name li ckitdri nki tsu ckit, at least that's her name on the website. So far a BJ bar is something unlike any other I've ever seen. A bar that caters to mainly blowjobs? Amazing! And if you really like the girl, the VIP room is available for FS? Amazing! I ended paying 1200 baht, that includes 2 drinks.
Finally the rain stopped so I went over to Darlings. I can see this place being a main spot many years ago, the rooms are huge. But on this day when I went in there were only 4 girls in the fishbowl, kinda sad. But there was one cutie, #124 Jenny, paid 2500 baht for 90 min. She was short and had big tits, but very typical. Tub bath, BJ, FS, finished, talked, time up. Bye bye. When I was walking out though, there were more girls in the bowl, I'd say about 7-10? About that but I couldn't tell for sure cause Jenny was walking me out and she was in a hurry cause I think she had to take a shit or something. She said she had stomach problems so I'm assuming she had to take a dump or something.
WTF, Its rainy season. Farangs don't care if its raining. OK Some go go girls will stay home.
You need a good strong umbrella for Bangkok. If you have only long pants, you might need to roll up the legs. LOL. I never got too worried about rain. Catch BTS or a taxi to avoid walking too long in rain. Never got struck by lighting yet. Getting bombed is more likely.
I wear sandals, not shoes and socks. If wet, no big deal. Doesn't take long to dry off
Decided to hit up the soapies today around 7 pm. MRT to Thailand Cultural Center and took exit 4. Walked for 5 minutes or so and came upon the huge Lord building. From the outside, it looks like a very upscale hotel. Made a left at Lord and a few steps later I found Colonze 2. I've read good reviews so I walked in. Only three girls downstairs in the 1,000 baht section. Upstairs, in the 2-3 k baht section were about 8 others. I was disappointed in the small selection and quality so I headed over to The Lord. The interior more than lived up to the promise of the facade. The girls were quite attractive, starting around 4.5 k and going up to 10 k (the "XL" section). There were probably 30-35 girls (and presumably others with customers). I chose a thin beautiful 22 year old from Issan from the "O" section (4.6 k baht I think). Went through the usual routine, bath where I was offered a BBBJ, the main event followed up with a shower. The girl was very willing and enthusiastic. Definitely not a starfish. The Lord is pricey, but the quality is impressive. Not sure where I'll head next. Also looking for a legit massage spot (with the possibility of a HJ) where I can get a real oil massage by an attractive, youngish masseuse rather than the usual thicker and older types. Any suggestions?
Thanks Syzygies and ChristianG for the spots to hit up. I ended up going to both. First stop was Dr BJ salon and met up with F.Actually was the Dr. BJ Nuru shop across the road that I mentioned.
What's the difference?
Actually was the Dr. BJ Nuru shop across the road that I mentioned.
Also looking for a legit massage spot (with the possibility of a HJ) where I can get a real oil massage by an attractive, youngish masseuse rather than the usual thicker and older types. Any suggestions?Try the Friends Massage in Sukhumvit Soi 19 and choose lady by your own instead of the automatic assigned girl. Mostly MILF's working there, but always an handful attractive girls available. They do real massage and most are happy to provide extra service for the usual fee 500/1000/1500. Would say success rate for extra service is around 70%. Oil massage rooms are OK with an included shower. I have from there some crazy memories haha.
What's the difference?When you enter the street, the one on the right side is the BJ Bar and the other one on the left side is the Nuru. Both owned by Dr. BJ. Met him durung my last visit.
Decided to hit up the soapies today around 7 pm. MRT to Thailand Cultural Center and took exit 4. Walked for 5 minutes or so and came upon the huge Lord building. From the outside, it looks like a very upscale hotel. Made a left at Lord and a few steps later I found Colonze 2. I've read good reviews so I walked in. Only three girls downstairs in the 1,000 baht section. Upstairs, in the 2-3 k baht section were about 8 others. I was disappointed in the small selection and quality so I headed over to The Lord. The interior more than lived up to the promise of the facade. The girls were quite attractive, starting around 4.5 k and going up to 10 k (the "XL" section). There were probably 30-35 girls (and presumably others with customers). I chose a thin beautiful 22 year old from Issan from the "O" section (4.6 k baht I think). Went through the usual routine, bath where I was offered a BBBJ, the main event followed up with a shower. The girl was very willing and enthusiastic. Definitely not a starfish. The Lord is pricey, but the quality is impressive. Not sure where I'll head next. Also looking for a legit massage spot (with the possibility of a HJ) where I can get a real oil massage by an attractive, youngish masseuse rather than the usual thicker and older types. Any suggestions?Thanks for the review. I noticed Colonze 2 and Aliana have been slow (even closed for a day) this week, possibly with rain / rainy season and / or just some mid-week slowness. They are open for Thai / locals more so than tourists so that is why they are much better to visit on Thursday-Sunday.
BTW, what time did you go to Colonze 2 / The Lord. Also, glad that you liked the Lord. Good to see people going to the good places instead of Nataree, which has some starfish / mommy-scar landmines.
Thanks for the review. I noticed Colonze 2 and Aliana have been slow (even closed for a day) this week, possibly with rain / rainy season and / or just some mid-week slowness. They are open for Thai / locals more so than tourists so that is why they are much better to visit on Thursday-Sunday.
BTW, what time did you go to Colonze 2 / The Lord. Also, glad that you liked the Lord. Good to see people going to the good places instead of Nataree, which has some starfish / mommy-scar landmines.I was there around 7 pm. I didn't realize Thursday through Sunday were the best days to visit, so I may need to give Colonze 2 another try. I've had good luck at Nataree in the past, but would like to explore some new options. Was thinking about trying Taragon, though I can't find many reviews. I know its a bit out of the way, so I'd hate to get out there and find the options lacking. Any good recommendations for places with young, slender girls? Also looking for a "legit" massage spot with more attractive masseuses offering real massages (with the outside chance of a handy). Any advice would be appreciated. I'll be sure to give a field report.
Wolvenvacht
09-17-15, 21:30
Not sure where I'll head next. Also looking for a legit massage spot (with the possibility of a HJ) where I can get a real oil massage by an attractive, youngish masseuse rather than the usual thicker and older types. Any suggestions?Actually Thailand is not the place to get a real legit "oil massage". In most of the places, the "oil massage" is just the front for an erotic massage where the massage part is the least important.
In Thailand - for a legit massage - ask for a real Thai massage, but as that is quite physical, the masseuses are mostly of the more bulky kind and probably not too young either.
The ACME of the real Thai massages you will find in the Wat Pho temple: http://www.watpho.com/plan.php?lang=en.
I was there around 7 pm. I didn't realize Thursday through Sunday were the best days to visit, so I may need to give Colonze 2 another try. I've had good luck at Nataree in the past, but would like to explore some new options. Was thinking about trying Taragon, though I can't find many reviews. I know its a bit out of the way, so I'd hate to get out there and find the options lacking. Any good recommendations for places with young, slender girls? Also looking for a "legit" massage spot with more attractive masseuses offering real massages (with the outside chance of a handy). Any advice would be appreciated. I'll be sure to give a field report.I am actually on the look-out for that myself as I stay near Huai Kwang. Around here, most massage places are just totally legit (and why wouldn't they be, there are already a ton of soapies nearby for that). The ones that offer extras have over-weight old women. They have "Kapoo" clubs around here, but they are just too expensive for me to go back. Let us know if you find a massage joint that offers extras and has decent looking women.
About these "Kapoo" clubs but I really can't recommend them because they want 2-3 k baht just for a hand job. If you have to try one of them, check out 'pretty relax spa'. I went there once and the girl (24) was slim and slender. And she had excellent technique. I paid 1700 baht and she kept her clothes on, which wasn't a problem for me because it's just a HJ. She wanted another 1 k for the clothes to come off.
This one website has some info about them:
http://www.thainuruclub.com/nurugirl-Realtime
It's usually best to NOT walk in sight-unseen to these places. You are best off contacting them on line and choosing a girl from a picture (booking). They have websites / facebook too. If you go sight-unseen and just walk in, there will just be like one girl available, maybe not, there are many kapoo clubs. And sometimes the lineup can be pretty plain / bad looking at some places too. The appeal is that they are "good girls," not good necessarily good looking girls. I went to Juizy at 2 pm and thought the girls there were certainly young, but not slim. I went to Taj Mahal Elite Model Spa and the women there were really good looking, but prices were 3 k just for a hand job!
About these "Kapoo" clubs but I really can't recommend them because they want 2-3 k baht just for a hand job. If you have to try one of them, check out 'pretty relax spa'. I went there once and the girl (24) was slim and slender. And she had excellent technique. I paid 1700 baht and she kept her clothes on, which wasn't a problem for me because it's just a HJ. She wanted another 1 k for the clothes to come off.
This one website has some info about them:
http://www.thainuruclub.com/nurugirl-Realtime
It's usually best to NOT walk in sight-unseen to these places. You are best off contacting them on line and choosing a girl from a picture (booking). They have websites / facebook too. If you go sight-unseen and just walk in, there will just be like one girl available, maybe not, there are many kapoo clubs. And sometimes the lineup can be pretty plain / bad looking at some places too. The appeal is that they are "good girls," not good necessarily good looking girls. I went to Juizy at 2 pm and thought the girls there were certainly young, but not slim. I went to Taj Mahal Elite Model Spa and the women there were really good looking, but prices were 3 k just for a hand job!So are you still keen on these Kapoo clubs, or disillusioned? I mean the pics on the Nuru club site are not that stunning. A couple might be acceptable. I can go to a bar have prettier completely nude or almost nude girls sit on my lap for cost of a few drinks, and if everything seems promising, take them away for sex of 1 to 2 hours. I don't need a massage nor a HJ for sure. I certainly don't need girls with clothes on. How does Nuru massage work, if girls are still dressed? I only ever had Nuru with naked girls sliding on me on a mat. Very sexy turn on.
Personally I don't care about age of the girl. She could be 20 or 35 for all I care. As long as she is beautiful or better. I am also accepting a wide range of skin tones and tit size, but not a wide range of asses or noses, LOL.
I was there around 7 pm. I didn't realize Thursday through Sunday were the best days to visit, so I may need to give Colonze 2 another try. I've had good luck at Nataree in the past, but would like to explore some new options. Was thinking about trying Taragon, though I can't find many reviews. I know its a bit out of the way, so I'd hate to get out there and find the options lacking. Any good recommendations for places with young, slender girls? Also looking for a "legit" massage spot with more attractive masseuses offering real massages (with the outside chance of a handy). Any advice would be appreciated. I'll be sure to give a field report.I believe I already stated that there is no such place as Taragon, in my opinion. Happy to be proved wrong. It was merely a misspelling of TharnThong, a Soapy / Oily MP with Ancient Thai massage also available a few hundred metres north of MengJai junction on the left. It's an out of the way spot not easily accessible, and very few Farangs would go there other than those living near by. I have been there at least two times.
You can do a Google Maps search for "Taragon Massage Bangkok" if you are really interested. The pin on Map will actually show the location of TharnThong Massage. Here is a pic of the entrance on Google Maps. Sign in Thai script (gold on blue background) clearly says "TharnThong" English approx. spelling.
https://goo.gl/maps/ScDQM (Map)
https://goo.gl/maps/6V7U4 (entrance pic)
Normally any reviews would be on a Thai forum only. Although I read Thai fine, I once tried a Thai forum, and found not a lot of useful posts. Thais write rather indirect tangential stuff, and spend more time trying to convey a cool image than giving any data of substance. They include lots of weird noises or sounds somehow spelled out in Thai print and many words that are made up words or maybe teenage talk, not taught in classes nor appearing in dictionaries (anyway I fail to recognise many words appearing there). So it's very hard for a Farang to get anything useful from Thai forums in my opinion, even for guys living in Thailand for many years with a girl who does not speak English at all, so using almost exclusively Thai language and dialects.
What's the difference?I mentioned the Nuru sexy "massage" body slide shop, since we were on the topic of "Soapies" (and body slides) at the time, in my thinking. You mentioned going for a blow job at the BJ shop. Slightly different style of service. Different girls. Same management, but we don't go somewhere for the management. LOL.
I mentioned having fun with slim Pat at the Nuru shop.
So are you still keen on these Kapoo clubs, or disillusioned? I mean the pics on the Nuru club site are not that stunning. A couple might be acceptable. I can go to a bar have prettier completely nude or almost nude girls sit on my lap for cost of a few drinks, and if everything seems promising, take them away for sex of 1 to 2 hours. I don't need a massage nor a HJ for sure. I certainly don't need girls with clothes on. How does Nuru massage work, if girls are still dressed? I only ever had Nuru with naked girls sliding on me on a mat. Very sexy turn on.
Personally I don't care about age of the girl. She could be 20 or 35 for all I care. As long as she is beautiful or better. I am also accepting a wide range of skin tones and tit size, but not a wide range of asses or noses, LOL.Me? I just don't like them enough to return. Price is too high. I like an alternative service to the usual soapies, but I am not paying that price for a HJ. The locals with money to throw around seem to like them. Most falangs probably wouldn't like them, but you never know so I just throw this intel out there for anyone curious.
I believe I already stated that there is no such place as Taragon, in my opinion. Happy to be proved wrong. It was merely a misspelling of TharnThong, a Soapy / Oily MP with Ancient Thai massage also available a few hundred metres north of MengJai junction on the left. It's an out of the way spot not easily accessible, and very few Farangs would go there other than those living near by. I have been there at least two times.
You can do a Google Maps search for "Taragon Massage Bangkok" if you are really interested. The pin on Map will actually show the location of TharnThong Massage. Here is a pic of the entrance on Google Maps. Sign in Thai script (gold on blue background) clearly says "TharnThong" English approx. spelling.
https://goo.gl/maps/ScDQM (Map)
https://goo.gl/maps/6V7U4 (entrance pic)
Normally any reviews would be on a Thai forum only. Although I read Thai fine, I once tried a Thai forum, and found not a lot of useful posts. Thais write rather indirect tangential stuff, and spend more time trying to convey a cool image than giving any data of substance. They include lots of weird noises or sounds somehow spelled out in Thai print and many words that are made up words or maybe teenage talk, not taught in classes nor appearing in dictionaries (anyway I fail to recognise many words appearing there). So it's very hard for a Farang to get anything useful from Thai forums in my opinion, even for guys living in Thailand for many years with a girl who does not speak English at all, so using almost exclusively Thai language and dialects.I'll take your word for it. In my own research, I did notice that the Google maps image didn't match the image on the website. I figured perhaps the google street view image was taken pre remodel / re-branding. The website shows a photo of the exterior of the building with a "Taragon" sign, but I suppose its possible that it's photoshopped. According to the website there's a shopping theme with different girls stationed at various "stores", e. G. The eye wear store. Intriguing, but maybe not worth making the trek if reality doesn't match the online depiction since I'm only here for a few days. I'm sure someone out there knows what the deal is with this place. Speak up if you do.
What about Victoria's? Is that worth going to for slender, early 20's talent? Or am I better off going to Nataree for that?
So. I'm a complete newbie, so please bear with me, and do let me know if there's something I'm doing wrong.
I'm seeing some talk about kapoo clubs, and I've been curious myself, so I decided to walk out of work early today and try one.
To start with, the best site to get information on the whereabouts of the kapoo clubs is this: http://www.kapooclubwebboard.com/forum/ Unfortunately, it's all in Thai, and doesn't translate all that well. But if you speak some Thai, have Google Translate read it for you. It's low on specifics, but it'll be enough to get you an idea of location, prices, and girls available.
The one I went to (at Fun) has a page here: http://www.kapooclubwebboard.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=d2f70d4c784ecbe91961d9eebc51ceb2&board=751.0 and is located in the Lat Phrao area close to the intersection with Pradit Manutham Rd.
From what I can garner, the house asks for 2500,2800, or 3000 baht depending on the girl, and this price is only for nude companionship and light fooling around. When I walked in at around 3:30 pm, they had a line up of about 10+ girls, all fairly young and in my humble opinion, much hotter and lighter in skin color than most girls at the Sukhumvit oilies. Instead of asking all the girls to come out at once, the mama asked them to step out one at a time, with a quick introduction in Thai. No. 3 with a busty hottie, so I didn't wait to see the entire line up. From what I did see, I recognized some from the pictures on the kapoo forum. At this point, I paid the house 2500 baht for No. 3.
We then went upstairs, and No. 3, who then told me she was called Cake, started to give me a back rub, and we played around with some light groping. She suggested a shower together, and after we dried off, she asked if I wanted extras, making clear FS was available. She wanted 2000 baht extra, but since I was really horny and she was pretty hot, I only half-ass a haggle, and we agreed on 1500 baht for full service. I'd imagine if you and the girl get along well, an extra 1000-ish (if that much) would've sufficed. Oh well.
We started with some heavy petting, which led to a nice, long BBBJ with some light perineum play / rimming. I got some DATY in, and after another BBBJ, ended with a short FS as I was lame and was already wanting to blow. (Didn't help that she used one of those thin-skinned Japanese condoms.) I ended the session there as I was tired, but I could probably have convinced Cake to continue with a bit of cajoling.
Total damage: 4000 baht (2500 to the house, and 1500 to the girl; Cake later told me the house gave her 1200, so she took home 2700 in total).
My thoughts are:
--Kinda pricey for this sort of FS, but could be worth it if you like young, light-skinned, Bangkok girls.
--Cake gave a nice performance. Definitely not PSE like what Ice / Lisa does, but a nice girl-next-door experience, which I prefer anyway. She knows her way around a BBBJ.
--Would I do this again? I think so, as I like a much higher proportion of girls here compared to the Suk oilies, and I'm not a fan of the Ratchada soapie scene. That said, I'm going to have to work a bit harder finding more baht to spend.
Others:
--I'm a stocky, 6-foot tall, non-Thai Asian of Chinese descent, speak conversational Thai, and have my own vehicle. YMMV. This place requires a taxi to get to from the closest MRT (Sutthisan), and you'll probably want to speak some Thai as it doesn't seem like anyone here speaks any English. The building / rooms are kind of old, but clean and spacious enough for a full-sized bed and some furniture. The bedspreads / linen are all clean.
Hope this helps!
I am actually on the look-out for that myself as I stay near Huai Kwang. Around here, most massage places are just totally legit (and why wouldn't they be, there are already a ton of soapies nearby for that). The ones that offer extras have over-weight old women. They have "Kapoo" clubs around here, but they are just too expensive for me to go back. Let us know if you find a massage joint that offers extras and has decent looking women.
About these "Kapoo" clubs but I really can't recommend them because they want 2-3 k baht just for a hand job. If you have to try one of them, check out 'pretty relax spa'. I went there once and the girl (24) was slim and slender. And she had excellent technique. I paid 1700 baht and she kept her clothes on, which wasn't a problem for me because it's just a HJ. She wanted another 1 k for the clothes to come off.
This one website has some info about them:..
Thanks Kuratla and LA Guy 5, although I was only with Candy / Beer a couple of times, disappointed! The majority of oily ladies I've been with are pleasant, polite, customer focussed and wonderful. But Candy / Beer was a step above. Dunno, EQ perhaps? Me romanticizing? Ah well.
The couple of times I visited her shop last month, she was sitting behind the reception desk and there was no indication she was available for sessions; I assumed she was not given she directed me to the area behind her to look at the available girls and she did not join them or otherwise indicate her availability..
Try the Friends Massage in Sukhumvit Soi 19 and choose lady by your own instead of the automatic assigned girl. Mostly MILF's working there, but always an handful attractive girls available. They do real massage and most are happy to provide extra service for the usual fee 500/1000/1500. Would say success rate for extra service is around 70%. Oil massage rooms are OK with an included shower. I have from there some crazy memories haha.Payu,
I took your advice and hit up Friend's massage. There was one masseuse inside so I requested her and upstairs we went. She wasn't quite what I'd call a looker, but she was 24 (looked 20) and much better than the usual bulky type. Got a decent but not great oil massage and a HJ and permission to let my hands wander wherever I wished for an extra 500. I was surprised at how wet she was. Anyway, thanks for the tip!
Decided to go for a sure thing and went to Nataree about 5 pm on a Friday. A little early, but was hoping to beat the Chinese bus tours. There were fewer girls there than I've seen in the past and no real stunners. Lots of 6's and a few 7's. I think my standards are pretty high though, so YMMV. I took my time deciding over a cold beer and took note of how many customers came through the doors and which girls were chosen. Man that place is busy, even before peak hours. More like an auction setting than a lounge experience you might find at other soapies. I ended up choosing a thin 22 year old light-skinned girl from Chang Rai. Cute, with braces and a small amount of English. Not the best performer, but not bad either. The expressions on her face told me that some deeper penetrating positions were too much for her. To her credit, she didn't object, but I didn't want to cause her discomfort. Overall, great value for 2,600 baht. I still haven't found the slender stunner I'm looking for. Any suggestions?
NopoProwler
09-19-15, 15:47
Hello everyone,
I've been reading this forum for a little while and found tips here and there about the massage spas and the girls, so I wanted to give my 2 cents:
To put these reviews in context, I'm 37 years old, Asian looking mixed blood from somewhere in America (the continent). In fair shape if I may say so myself. I like my women dirty but not too aggro since I like to be the one delivering the damage. I have an international-average sized penis and condoms very much kill me so it's hard for me to come and depending on the chemistry, even kill my erection. My impressions follow these parameters, naturally.
1. Addict massage. Chia:
The spa is OK, but nothing fancy. Just the basics. All inclusive rate that is within normal range + 300 tip + 80 for a beer that she ordered for me.
Chia is a petite skinny girl from Chiangmai, tanned but her skin is lighter than what I usually find around. I've been with her 2 times and can't complain unless I say I'd like less "nice" and more " She's not PSE tho, and you have to like her for her to give GFE. The first time she gave me a BBBJ for the second pop, provided that I tip her, but she started with BBBJ and then finished me with HJ all over her tits. Well trained, she knows having an "orgasm" for the man is pleasing the man too. GFE, kissing but no DFK, BBBJ, OK anal.
2. Snow White. Benz.
The spa could use some serious work, but the room had a couch and that is a plus. All inclusive rate within normal range + 300 tip + 80 a beer she ordered for her but I drank half off her pussy.
Benz is a PSE type of girl (even though she says she doesn't like anal but gives it like nothing). She is tall and she's tanned unlike her pictures on the website and now has breast implants (not my cup of tea). She goes right into the action, stripping and inviting you to defile her on the bed. She likes being given DATY, she even pure beer on her pussy for me to have a cocktail haha. Heavy fingering followed (she demanded to come), then hardcore BBBJ, condom and then she rode me so hardcore my pelvis hurt. To be honest she was a little intimidating as I like more submissive girls. After I came we talked for a while and then she gave me a BBBJ without me asking. I came in her mouth and she spat it out in the shower.
3. Cupidy. Pom (number 53).
Cupidy is a scam. I had the misfortune of having a taxi take me there when I was on my qay to Prom Pong. It was around 2:30 pm on a weekday. Heavy traffic and I didn't have much time. 3000 baht for 1.5 hours + 200 tip + whatever for water. Rooms are old but big and spacious.
I don't exactly recall the number but I'm quite sure. Pom is a MILF, she's over 30 fosho but has the best natural tits in the business, too bad she wouldn't let me suck on them. Massage was more decent than what you get at Colonze 2. It includes a gel-less nuru. After that no-GFE sex. No kissing at all, let alone DFK. No DATY, CBJ with too much noise actually. Sex is okay, she's tight (had a see-section) and she actually allowed me to lick her toes (I had to be allowed something, damn it!) and then I came pounding her as hard as I could (but she enjoyed it, it seems). Nothing adventurous at all. I wouldn't repeat cupiy, to be honest. I left sexually satisfied but my wallet felt scammed. I've heard you have to walk away for them to lower the price tho. I think they shoved the commission for the taxi driver on top of the rate. No GFE, no kissing, no CIM, no CIF, I don't have to say no anal.
4. Bamboo. Jaa.
The level of the facilities at Bamboo is the same as Addict. The price within normal range except the 500 for A+ . I didn't tip her because of this. I understand the reasons, but it feels like you're paying a plus for anal. This is Bangkok!
Jaa is not like I imagined from the photos and from what I read here. I had the idea that she is an anal queen but no, she's regular service (no PSE). She's short and darker than the pictures but very nice nevertheless. We followed the normal procedure, then BBBJ and then it was all anal with a little fury for like 20 minutes since I had to pay extra for it, which is unusual here. Back rub followed.
5. Colonze 2 - Pim (number 328).
I guess you all know Colonze 2. The place was pretty standard, kinda old and nothing fancy. What these places lack is a 24 hour porn channel, that could work wonders. Rooms have the necessarily but barely anything left. 1700 + 300 tip + 80 for 2 est cokes.
Pim was a recommendation from one of the guys there (except for Jaa and Benz all my P2P girls have been recommend by the mamasan / papasan). She doesn't speak English, she even had to use her phablet to ask me something. She took me to bed and cuddled while the tub was getting filled and we waited for drinks. After strip, invite me very politely to the tub and bathed me (I wouldn't call that massage, I had that at cupidy for 3000). After that back to bed, BBBJ, condom, KY, and she rode me for a while. Didn't feel shit because of the condom so I started to punder in miss. Took a break to wipe off the sweat and she keep tugging my junk. More KY and I pounded her again in miss but with a pillow under her ass DFKing her until I came. She seemed to be struggling a little at the end. She showered first, showered me and we left. Virtually no massage, GFE in the last part of the act with DFK, BBBJ but no CIM or CIF, didn't ask for anal. Very nice and polite girl, but no tigress if you know what I mean.
So there it is, gentlemen, my 2 cents. I would like to offer this expecting similar information in return (in where which girl is how and what she does).
Cheers.
N
Payu,
I took your advice and hit up Friend's massage. There was one masseuse inside so I requested her and upstairs we went. She wasn't quite what I'd call a looker, but she was 24 (looked 20) and much better than the usual bulky type. Got a decent but not great oil massage and a HJ and permission to let my hands wander wherever I wished for an extra 500. I was surprised at how wet she was. Anyway, thanks for the tip!Meant to say that there was one younger masseuse inside.
Decided to go for a sure thing and went to Nataree about 5 pm on a Friday. A little early, but was hoping to beat the Chinese bus tours. There were fewer girls there than I've seen in the past and no real stunners. Lots of 6's and a few 7's. I think my standards are pretty high though, so YMMV. I took my time deciding over a cold beer and took note of how many customers came through the doors and which girls were chosen. Man that place is busy, even before peak hours. More like an auction setting than a lounge experience you might find at other soapies. I ended up choosing a thin 22 year old light-skinned girl from Chang Rai. Cute, with braces and a small amount of English. Not the best performer, but not bad either. The expressions on her face told me that some deeper penetrating positions were too much for her. To her credit, she didn't object, but I didn't want to cause her discomfort. Overall, great value for 2,600 baht. I still haven't found the slender stunner I'm looking for. Any suggestions?I agree with you completely. Lots of young girls, but really not many above a 7 and the best lookers maybe already taken due to very busy shop. I have not had much luck with getting great performing girls not scared of dick other than older ones in the fishbowl.
Always worth a look if in the area, but somewhat over rated for me. Fantastic for others. We are not all the same. Many many years since I had a favourite girl there.
I have seen photos of girls that other guys took, and failed to be specially impressed by the looks. Some of us are rather fussy. It's actually very hard to find stunners anywhere. Some of the higher class places have a few stunners, but they may be very expensive, hard to get to, and could always be dick scared as well. I suggest just try a few places like The Lord, Amsterdam, La Belle, and see if you get lucky. Its always a question of personal taste. I get put off by a lot of fake looks where Thai girls try to look western but it doesn't work for me.
I always like to see girls standing up before choosing as sitting can hide figure problems.
Bangkot massage is on soi 22. Its in a small lane opposite the Holiday Inn. I think its probably the first right as you go into soi 22. I pre-booked her and she was ready when I arrived. May be best to see her earlier in the day than later as she gets a few customers daily. I went early afternoon was her first for the day.
The facility is very average, much like most other oilies in the area. I took her for two hours, 800+1500+ tip.
I booked Mony as she has had some good reviews here and she gave a fantastic session. She has had kids and the signs are clearly there so if that's a big deal for you then she is not for you. Her personality is bubbly and friendly and she gets very naughty and sexy in bed. She is not a stunner at all but her performance is excellent. She gave me a short BBBJ before the shower just to get things started. Not a lot of action in the shower but once on the bed, she really turned things on. Gave a great sensual massage and BBJ and then rode me on top. She loves to be fingered and seems to greatly enjoy DATY. After round one she gave me a good oil massage and after a while started with some deep rimming (without asking for it). Had me ready again and we went for round two. Various different positions and a great PSE session. She also did anal. Was busy for the full two hours and made me cum thrice which is not usual for me. Needed to take a nap after the session to recover from it!
If you are someone who puts performance over looks then she would be a great choice. She used to work at Tulip before and definitely knows what she is doingI would happily repeat her.
Decided to go for a sure thing and went to Nataree about 5 pm on a Friday. A little early, but was hoping to beat the Chinese bus tours. There were fewer girls there than I've seen in the past and no real stunners. Lots of 6's and a few 7's. I think my standards are pretty high though, so YMMV. I took my time deciding over a cold beer and took note of how many customers came through the doors and which girls were chosen. Man that place is busy, even before peak hours. More like an auction setting than a lounge experience you might find at other soapies. I ended up choosing a thin 22 year old light-skinned girl from Chang Rai. Cute, with braces and a small amount of English. Not the best performer, but not bad either. The expressions on her face told me that some deeper penetrating positions were too much for her. To her credit, she didn't object, but I didn't want to cause her discomfort. Overall, great value for 2,600 baht. I still haven't found the slender stunner I'm looking for. Any suggestions?I also went to Nataree that Friday too at like 6-7 PM and left shortly after surveying the 'talent'. I was thinking maybe they originally had some talent but that maybe it was all taken by the time I arrived so I walked out and went to Aliana. Your report is good to note as it seems they are in a slump, possibly with weather / low-season. I also went there on Tuesday at like 5 PM and the place was virtually empty. Only about 7 girls and possibly more dudes hanging around. I'm not sure why I keep going back, I guess they have the hotter young types and that's a good thing. But it seems like they are really in a slump. I got there often because I live so close.
Have you tried The Lord? I would go there if you are looking for stunners. If you don't find the slim type you are looking for, then also check out Alaina next door (just because the are close, why not). When you enter Alaina walk to the girls on the left, there are more there than on the right. But you are free to go to both fish bowls and examine. Also down that road is Colonze 2. They have models on the upper floor at 2400 to 3000-something baht. Some of their models are young / hot but many are just barely above average looking. I saw one certified stunner there but she was taken in less than 30 seconds heh. Colonze 2 seems popular with locals so they might snatch up the talent quickly.
3. Cupidy. Pom (number 53).
Cupidy is a scam. I had the misfortune of having a taxi take me there when I was on my qay to Prom Pong. It was around 2:30 pm on a weekday. Heavy traffic and I didn't have much time. 3000 baht for 1.5 hours + 200 tip + whatever for water. Rooms are old but big and spacious.
I don't exactly recall the number but I'm quite sure. Pom is a MILF, she's over 30 fosho but has the best natural tits in the business, too bad she wouldn't let me suck on them. Massage was more decent than what you get at Colonze 2. It includes a gel-less nuru. After that no-GFE sex. No kissing at all, let alone DFK. No DATY, CBJ with too much noise actually. Sex is okay, she's tight (had a see-section) and she actually allowed me to lick her toes (I had to be allowed something, damn it!) and then I came pounding her as hard as I could (but she enjoyed it, it seems). Nothing adventurous at all. I wouldn't repeat cupiy, to be honest. I left sexually satisfied but my wallet felt scammed. I've heard you have to walk away for them to lower the price tho. I think they shoved the commission for the taxi driver on top of the rate. No GFE, no kissing, no CIM, no CIF, I don't have to say no anal..Yeah Cupidy is pretty scammy. It's not a total rip-off all the time. Anyway, I went there once because it was a Thai holiday and all the other soapies were closed so a kind Taxi driver took me there when I showed up to a closed ratchda soapy. When I arrived, I knew the place had to be illegit because of how they were opened on a holiday but oh well, I wanted soapy action that day. After sex, one of the 2 girls begged me for a tip, said she needed money to eat. She was fat LOL.
Colonze 2 is alright service-wise. I like how the girls always are down or BBBJ, whereas at the more tourist flooded places, they often only do CBJ.
As for condoms and no feeling during sex. I used to have that problem too. I still sometimes get that, but now only if I have been drinking too much. What helped fix that for me was to not masturbate or have sex for 60 days. Some guys report needing 90 days or even more. Anyway no sex / no masturbation for 60 days definitely helped me. In fact, I probably need to do another reset because sex overall is just becoming less and less fun now since I live in P4P-land.
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