View Full Version : Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!
Ralph Kramden
09-20-15, 14:26
Decided to go for a sure thing and went to Nataree about 5 pm on a Friday. A little early, but was hoping to beat the Chinese bus tours. There were fewer girls there than I've seen in the past and no real stunners. Lots of 6's and a few 7's. I think my standards are pretty high though, so YMMV. I took my time deciding over a cold beer and took note of how many customers came through the doors and which girls were chosen. Man that place is busy, even before peak hours. More like an auction setting than a lounge experience you might find at other soapies. I ended up choosing a thin 22 year old light-skinned girl from Chang Rai. Cute, with braces and a small amount of English. Not the best performer, but not bad either. The expressions on her face told me that some deeper penetrating positions were too much for her. To her credit, she didn't object, but I didn't want to cause her discomfort. Overall, great value for 2,600 baht. I still haven't found the slender stunner I'm looking for. Any suggestions?5 PM is not too early at all for Nataree. In fact it is a little late for the best selection of fresh girls. The reason there was a skimpy line up is because all the better looking ones were upstairs shaking their bootie. Think in terms of starting there at 3 PM.
5 PM is not too early at all for Nataree. In fact it is a little late for the best selection of fresh girls. The reason there was a skimpy line up is because all the better looking ones were upstairs shaking their bootie. Think in terms of starting there at 3 PM.How many times have you been there? I have been at 3 pm and it's a pretty crappy selection, so I instead shoot for 5-6 PM. What I have found about that place is the day of the week matters the most. Days such as Monday / Tuesday are the worst and it hadn't matter when I got there.
Eric Burden
09-20-15, 23:52
Based on all the positive reports, tried it out arriving in the afternoon. Paid 2500 BT to the ladyboy Mgr, and was presented with a girl. Seemed ok so went upstairs to an ok room with shower. Strip, shower together. Sexy shower with some BBBJ on her knees, then on to bed and great experience, good BJ, cat bath, rimjob, then fuck with condom, then doggy style, fingered her asshole which she took as I wanted anal. So she lubed her butthole and I ass fucked her until I got off. Shower together, light massage, the more cat bath and good BBBJ until I came in her mouth. She looked at me and then swallowed. Overall, great experience with all extras. I gave her a 500 bt tip.
Went back a few days later to try same girl but she was booked. Got a different from a line up of about 9 girls. This one not so good, wash in shower, BBBJ, fuck w condom but pussy was so loose, I could feel nothing. So fucked her asshole with condom until I came. Shower, came back to bed and got a good massage, then BJ until I came in her mouth. Negatives: no rimming, loose pussy, no swallow. A session anywhere else with fucking, anal and CIM along with a good massage would be great but expectations in Thailand much higher.
Conclusion: Snow White good but as always, depends on girl.
Based on all the positive reports, tried it out arriving in the afternoon. Paid 2500 BT to the ladyboy Mgr, and was presented with a girl. Seemed ok so went upstairs to an ok room with shower. Strip, shower together. Sexy shower with some BBBJ on her knees, then on to bed and great experience, good BJ, cat bath, rimjob, then fuck with condom, then doggy style, fingered her asshole which she took as I wanted anal. So she lubed her butthole and I ass fucked her until I got off. Shower together, light massage, the more cat bath and good BBBJ until I came in her mouth. She looked at me and then swallowed. Overall, great experience with all extras. I gave her a 500 bt tip.
Went back a few days later to try same girl but she was booked. Got a different from a line up of about 9 girls. This one not so good, wash in shower, BBBJ, fuck w condom but pussy was so loose, I could feel nothing. So fucked her asshole with condom until I came. Shower, came back to bed and got a good massage, then BJ until I came in her mouth. Negatives: no rimming, loose pussy, no swallow. A session anywhere else with fucking, anal and CIM along with a good massage would be great but expectations in Thailand much higher.
Conclusion: Snow White good but as always, depends on girl.Were you actually charged 2,500 baht, or is that just an approximation? The price has been 800 baht for two hours plus 1500 baht for the girl for quite some time, and I'm wondering whether that has been increased (or whether the manager perhaps is taking advantage of customers and overcharging when it is possible to do so).
Also, any chance you could tell us who the two girls you saw were, or if you are uncomfortable naming the one who wasn't so good, at least tell us who gave good performance? If you don't remember their names, you probably could find out by looking at the photos on their website: www.snowwhitesoi26.com (which incidentally still has the base rate for a two-hour massage at 800 baht (add 1,500 to that for the girl and you get 2,300 baht)).
Uncle Volodya
09-21-15, 05:43
Tequila works for my gals. Two shots really warms a girl up and gets her in the mood for love. Of course some girls don't need to loosened up. Ha Ha. But I would rather buy a girl a Tequila than some sugar water. I just wish the Go Go's stocked some high quality aged 100% Blue Agave Tequila like 1921 Reposado or Casa Noble Anejo. Last trip I brought a bottle of Casa Noble with me from the USA wrapped in bubble wrap and plastic in my suitcase. The bottle made the journey intact.Yes, the tequila they have at the bars is just atrocious. My lady and her friends do the bottle service at Ibar and like making each other do shots of the stuff. I had a few shots one night and woke up with the worst hangover of the trip! Even Jose Cuervo would be a step up from the swill they serve.
As for condoms and no feeling during sex. I used to have that problem too. I still sometimes get that, but now only if I have been drinking too much. What helped fix that for me was to not masturbate or have sex for 60 days. Some guys report needing 90 days or even more. Anyway no sex / no masturbation for 60 days definitely helped me. In fact, I probably need to do another reset because sex overall is just becoming less and less fun now since I live in P4P-land.You make me laugh. Just give up masturbation completely. I have managed to do that except when in countries where there is no reasonable action. I can go for a week without sex or wanking if a definite fun outing is coming up.
It's important to use you own condoms so you can select good thin ones easy on and a suitable size. I always have my own and mostly havemy own non-sticky lube as well.
No need to stress about the odd cum failure. Just get used to it. Not every girl feels the best. Make sure of long recovery times between sessions and take the best vitamins for sperm production.
Yes, the tequila they have at the bars is just atrocious. My lady and her friends do the bottle service at Ibar and like making each other do shots of the stuff. I had a few shots one night and woke up with the worst hangover of the trip! Even Jose Cuervo would be a step up from the swill they serve.I have not had hangover problems with the Tequilas. Some bars serve a special weakened Tequila for girls different to the customer drinks. Anyway I don't drink tequilas that often preferring other things.
The quality doesn't matter much as long as opens her legs and makes her start acting horny. As Natty says, some girls need loosening up. Others don't need anything to be horny. Can be the difference between kissing passionately and not wanting to tongue kiss at all. I certainly don't need anything to desensitise me and make cumming more difficult than normal.
I had a look at the BKK48 website, lots of nice looking gals, all photo shopped probably. But I decided to give it a try. The shop is in a small alley at Soi 22. No girls outside and very dark windows, looked closed but a small open sign was hanging on the door. The Mamasan welcomed me and handed me a bunch of laminated cards, one for each girl. Everything was written in Japanese and English. The shopping list told what the girl could do and not, also if they offered extra services like anal, COF etc. Anal was 1000 extra, but only one or two ladies were open for that. The mamasan recommended a girl called Beem, she is on their website. I decided to have a look at Beem and another girl called Candy. Selection was easy when I saw them in reality. Beem was tall and slim with perfect skin, be+ boobs. So I took her. She is advertised as 25 year old, but are actually older. I will not go thru the session in detail, but I had two good hours. Not primarily because of the massage or the sex, just because she was so talkative and funny personality. But I think this place is a bit overpriced for the service received, but YMMV. Anyway, you can find good looking girls here. The massage was performed with lots of oil and a very short B2B. Only one shot allowed, extra cost 1500! Service included was CBJ, and full sex. Kissing but no DFK. Damage done 2400 + 200.Has anyone found any really good pretty girls at bkk48? I visited once long ago and intend to check it out again.
I recognise one girl on website whose looks are not exaggerated, however I expect most pics very shopped, and some girls may not really work there.
Does anyone know which other places are common ownership?
NopoProwler
09-23-15, 04:13
Yeah Cupidy is pretty scammy. It's not a total rip-off all the time. Anyway, I went there once because it was a Thai holiday and all the other soapies were closed so a kind Taxi driver took me there when I showed up to a closed ratchda soapy. When I arrived, I knew the place had to be illegit because of how they were opened on a holiday but oh well, I wanted soapy action that day. After sex, one of the 2 girls begged me for a tip, said she needed money to eat. She was fat LOL.
Colonze 2 is alright service-wise. I like how the girls always are down or BBBJ, whereas at the more tourist flooded places, they often only do CBJ.
As for condoms and no feeling during sex. I used to have that problem too. I still sometimes get that, but now only if I have been drinking too much. What helped fix that for me was to not masturbate or have sex for 60 days. Some guys report needing 90 days or even more. Anyway no sex / no masturbation for 60 days definitely helped me. In fact, I probably need to do another reset because sex overall is just becoming less and less fun now since I live in P4P-land.I think you described the most likely cause of this problem. 60 days without masturbating seems a miracle. Thanks for the advice!
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Went to Dream Heaven Soi 33 a few days ago at 4:00 pm or so. First time I got there at this hour and it was slim pickings, only 5 girls to choose from, none of which really jumped out at me. Turns out, judging by the high-heels next to all the rooms as I walked to a room with my provider, most of the girls were already booked. I should have just moved on since none of the 5 girls really hit my spot in tastes (all do-abe though), maybe saved my energy for the Go Go's. This girl I picked was good looking, I'd say a solid 7 or slightly higher. Typical short height, but had a really nice and round butt which is not common out here. And service was satisfactory as is typical there: Nuru bare body massage, some teasing teasing, BBBJ, CSFS in any position. It's just that I normally pick a provider that I am more attracted to / is more my type than her. I didn't get her name since I didn't plan on choosing her again.
The place right before there, Love Teen Massage. I was contemplating going there since I walk past it every time and in the corner of my eye I like what I see (girls with large tits, what's not to like). But when I zoomed in a bit more one of the girls was missing a tooth so. I decided to pass LOL.
Advice: Dream Heaven Soi 33 is good, but you'll want to get there before everything is booked. I have been before right as they open at 11 AM and I think that is a very good time to start, while the workers are still perky and you get first dibs. Up until 2 PM is still good, plenty (about 10-15) to choose from.
Eric Swiss
09-23-15, 12:59
Walked into Addict mid-afternoon, decent-sized line-up, and I picked up this girl with Chinese-like facial features and a relatively light skin. Her name was Cheer. Turned out she was from Chiang Mai, naturally. I picked her because she was smiling at me and staring straight at me. It is a strong indication that the girl is horny for you. In the bedroom she sure proved it.
She undressed me and looked at my dick with hungry eyes filled with desire. Shower was very sensual. I lay on my stomach for a perfunctory massage. The goal is to build intimacy through touch, so having sex with a total stranger doesn't feel too weird afterwards. She flipped me, more stroking, and a nice BBBJ. Then she got on top of me cowgirl style and started really f*cking me hard. She made me blow my load real quick.
She was upset that I hadn't "waited for her" (to come), but as I'm the paying customer I didn't feel the same pressure to put on a good performance as I would in a "normal" relationship. Besides, you never know with these girls: most of the time, they want me to come quickly so they can get on with their lives, and I take forever because I'm half drunk, and they try to urge me on. For once that I come quickly, the girl complains about that too. Go figure!
Anyway, she's a solid performer, if I see her again in the line-up I may pick her up again just to give her the decent f*ck that she so clearly craves.
Decided to check BKK48 in Soi 22 2nd side Soi on left. Hoping for new of the fabulous and stunning Bai Fern shown on their website and attached.
No, she is on long holiday probably never to return. Probably has been gone for 2 years if she was ever there at all. I originally met Bai Fern at Yorimichi. Pic does not do her justice really.
I decided to check the line up. Looked at about 8 to 10 pics. Only Pics of Candy and Design interested me, so I called those two to come out. Both did not resemble the pics even slightly. The attached Candy pic is from web page and is much more like Candy than in the reception photos, however the real Candy is quite fat. The real Design did not resemble pic either and was fairly plain to ugly.
Gave up and moved on to Soi 24/1. Can Cam had a good line up of 10 to 12 girls. Maybe 4 very doable. I chose Mai, a new girl. It's her 2nd day. She has previously worked at Bangkok Cosy, Meree, and Boss massage.
Mai had the prettiest face just (teeth a little crooked). Quite slim, petite and small natural A cups. Started soapy sliding play in shower, then had a Gel bodyslide massage including camel toe.
Mai turned out to be quite orgasmic and a lot of fun in many positions. Tight pussy but not Dick Scared. I got a second round after a brief massage from Mai. Definite for repeat and recommended if you don't mind skinny.
ActionOriented
09-25-15, 03:27
Decided to check BKK48 in Soi 22 2nd side Soi on left. Hoping for new of the fabulous and stunning Bai Fern shown on their website and attached.
No, she is on long holiday probably never to return. Probably has been gone for 2 years if she was ever there at all. I originally met Bai Fern at Yorimichi. Pic does not do her justice really.
I decided to check the line up. Looked at about 8 to 10 pics. Only Pics of Candy and Design interested me, so I called those two to come out. Both did not resemble the pics even slightly. The attached Candy pic is from web page and is much more like Candy than in the reception photos, however the real Candy is quite fat. The real Design did not resemble pic either and was fairly plain to ugly.
Gave up and moved on to Soi 24/1. Can Cam had a good line up of 10 to 12 girls. Maybe 4 very doable. I chose Mai, a new girl. It's her 2nd day. She has previously worked at Bangkok Cosy, Meree, and Boss massage.
Mai had the prettiest face just (teeth a little crooked). Quite slim, petite and small natural A cups. Started soapy sliding play in shower, then had a Gel bodyslide massage including camel toe.
Mai turned out to be quite orgasmic and a lot of fun in many positions. Tight pussy but not Dick Scared. I got a second round after a brief massage from Mai. Definite for repeat and recommended if you don't mind skinny.They have't uploaded Mai / May's pic on their website may be because she is new - looks like this is the link to her page (http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=109). Did you see any of the other girls in LU that appear on their website casting and what would you say is the level of photo editing? (http://cancam-massage.com/gals/).
They have't uploaded Mai / May's pic on their website may be because she is new - looks like this is the link to her page (http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=109). Did you see any of the other girls in LU that appear on their website casting and what would you say is the level of photo editing? (http://cancam-massage.com/gals/).I would say the pics may be fairly realistic. Lek and Yoko were girls I was considering and look very much like the pics on website. Lek is a saucy attitude girl and looks like her pic exactly. I like her look other than very short and I am tallish. Quite a few new girls there not shown on web site pics.
I have tried both May and Mai. Two different girls. May told me she only works weekends. This time was Mai (not May). Mai has very small tits but nicely shaped. May has silicones but not too bad of a job and pretty face so I could accept that.
If you go past, check out the girls line up. I think they have superior looks for an Oily MP shop. Web pics not totally bullshit like some other shops. Japanese papasan probably doesn't have the best English. LOL However he said to me "See you tomorrow" I don't believe he speaks Thai.
So far I am very happy with my visits to this shop. Probably no PSE stuff though, but good GFE. Prices are a bit high compared to some other shops, but I am willing to pay more for pretty girls. I believe was 2800 Baht for 90 min booking all in price.
I wanted to try Momo shown on web page, but I fear she has gone and won't be returning. Webpage will need update soon as girls ever changing. Lek said she will change her name to Momo so that I will want her. LOL Said they can all be Momo if I like. LOL
ActionOriented
09-25-15, 12:44
I would say the pics may be fairly realistic. Lek and Yoko were girls I was considering and look very much like the pics on website. Lek is a saucy attitude girl and looks like her pic exactly. I like her look other than very short and I am tallish. Quite a few new girls there not shown on web site pics.
I have tried both May and Mai. Two different girls. May told me she only works weekends. This time was Mai (not May). Mai has very small tits but nicely shaped. May has silicones but not too bad of a job and pretty face so I could accept that.
If you go past, check out the girls line up. I think they have superior looks for an Oily MP shop. Web pics not totally bullshit like some other shops. Japanese papasan probably doesn't have the best English. LOL However he said to me "See you tomorrow" I don't believe he speaks Thai.
So far I am very happy with my visits to this shop. Probably no PSE stuff though, but good GFE. Prices are a bit high compared to some other shops, but I am willing to pay more for pretty girls. I believe was 2800 Baht for 90 min booking all in price.
I wanted to try Momo shown on web page, but I fear she has gone and won't be returning. Webpage will need update soon as girls ever changing. Lek said she will change her name to Momo so that I will want her. LOL Said they can all be Momo if I like. LOLHaha, thanks for the info. Hope they keep updating the website since most other shops don't bother doing so after they get some brand recognition.
I don't think place has been reported earlier, good one. Thankfully, they aren't servicing only Japanese clientele.
ViajeroGringo
09-26-15, 01:37
After finally getting rid of the bosses, I had the chance to get out Wednesday night. Long week already and I was too tired to do much, so I called Bamboo to make sure they were open and see who was available. Last time I was here, LE had shut them down. Anyway, Cheer was my top choice that was working, so I asked them to wait for me. http://bamboobkk.com/ladies/cheer/ 20 minutes later, I arrive to see almost closed doors at 9:45; appeared that I would be last customer. The beautiful mamisan introduced me to Cheer, who did not look nearly as good as her picture, but was acceptable. We went upstairs, and she helped me shower, then started massage. I had upgraded to 1. 5 hour Nuru, but won't again it felt great, but got really sticky after a few minutes. Cheer gave me a surprising effective massage with her ass which actually relieved most of my aching back. Then she gave me BBBJ with COB (mine). After clean you and some DATY (she seemed to enjoy? We went through several positions until I pulled off condom and COB (hers). She was enthusiastic and effective provider, but not the most beautiful. In fact, when she smiled, she looked like one of the giant gods at the what is around town, but in a good way. She certainly is not ugly, has a very nice, tight body, and I would recommend. Total damage was $2600.
Thursday, had more time and energy so went to Nana, and took Noon home from Rainbow. She needs to work on her English, but we had an enjoyable dinner at the hawker stand ordering frog with pepper corns and a corn salad. She scared the hell out of me as she ate the entire branch of pepper corns with a spoonful of hot basal. All I could think about was what that mouth would feel like later! We walked onto hotel and I can confirm that Okuru Prestige is GF friendly. Lovely evening with bath in the room, lots of cuddling, and true GFE. She is very tall, slim, and has wonderful smile. Between drinks for me, lady drink for her, bar fine, and her cost, total damage was close to 3500.
Last night, decided to try Dream Heaven Massage on Soi 26. None of my pre-selected choices were available, but L was there, and looked good. http://dreamheavenmassage.com/web/team/l She does look exactly like her picture, and is a lovely young lady of 23, but looks 19. Performance wasn't nearly as enthusiastic as Cheer, but her beautiful little body and sweet smile and kisses made up for it. She also has about the best tits I've seen, slightly large for her size. Her massage was pointless, but sex was great. She reluctantly gave BBBJ, but I held out for covered sex in multiple positions. Total damage for 1 hour was only 2000 Baht, and she brought different nuru lotion that was much better than Bamboos.
Writing from airport always makes me sad to leave Bangkok, but look forward to next trip.
Last night, decided to try Dream Heaven Massage on Soi 26. None of my pre-selected choices were available, but L was there, and looked good. http://dreamheavenmassage.com/web/team/l She does look exactly like her picture, and is a lovely young lady of 23, but looks 19. Performance wasn't nearly as enthusiastic as Cheer, but her beautiful little body and sweet smile and kisses made up for it. She also has about the best tits I've seen, slightly large for her size. Her massage was pointless, but sex was great. She reluctantly gave BBBJ, but I held out for covered sex in multiple positions. Total damage for 1 hour was only 2000 Baht, and she brought different nuru lotion that was much better than Bamboos.
Thanks for the report. I would do the same thing and take the cute one. Elle (L) looks good to me too, so she would have been one of my pre-selected choice if I was working that way. I see Soi 3 Dream Heaven has some apparently nice looking girls too. I know one girl there already (if she is till there).
It's normal I think for shops to show more girls on the web site than what they actually have.
I tried Cheer years ago and just wasn't good looking enough or special enough in any way to make me excited to repeat. So I am a sucker for cuties.
Hi all,
Has anyone had the pleasure of jeeji at Bongkot? I've done some searching and can't find any reviews.
Hi there,
Anyone seen, spoken to or fucked Beer recently, say within last 10 days?
Any comment (PM?) welcome.
Thanks.
DS.
Hi there,
Anyone seen, spoken to or fucked Beer recently, say within last 10 days?
Any comment (PM?) welcome.
Thanks.
DS.If anyone else has fucked Beer recently? I do find some information sought to be very curious.
If anyone else has fucked Beer recently? I do find some information sought to be very curious.Maybe the 10 days window gives a clue?
Maybe the 10 days window gives a clue?Not going down the route of incubation times.......
Maybe the 10 days window gives a clue?Yeh he wanted to know if she recovered after he may have done her damage, I guess. If I was asking, that would be my reason. Anyway I don't care if that is his reason or not. He may be more shy to say everything than me.
JackieChino
10-02-15, 11:22
Coming back to the LOS for a visit soon.
Does anyone know where Opor is?
Started a short survey of some line ups at about 2. 30 pm. First Bongkot for first time. 4 fat girls and one thinner but ugly available. Better girls probably busy or not yet arrived.
Moved on. To Snow White looking for the new Emmy. She clearly wasn't there. Line up had more girls and a bit better than Bongkot but no one really to my taste at all. No one doable for me.
Next Dream Heaven 26. One girl reasonnable looking but very straight hips and fake nose. The hot slim girl "mai yark soo gap Farang" doesn't take Farangs.
Moved to Soi 24/1 passing some shops, no girls sitting. It's raining a little. Passing B&B spotted ine very cute slim girl. On to my normal shop Can Cam. Line up well below usual only 4 girls. Lek is cute and white skin but nose a bit broad. Might be a nose job.
Maybe pretty girls vusy or not yet turned up.
Back to B&B for the first time. Took the Gel massage. Girl was slim tan skin cute little nose very small tits. However very cute ass too. Name was Maya pronounced like May-yar, not the usual way.
Was happy to rub her soaped up bottom against me in the shower getting a rise naturally. I explained I did not like massage, got her to slide on me with plenty of gel instead? Massage with beautiful bottom and pussy "camel toe" as well. She has long hair above pussy only, not all the way around. Nice tight pussy but not dick scared. Enjoyed doggy immensely.
After sex she offered massage but I did not want it. Gave her a nice DATY to completion. Then had about 10 minutes left and she was OK for me to fuck her round two. Gave her a nice tip on basis of that.
Only light DFK so I guess she is not into kissing in a big way but good fun. Good face, teeth not perfectly straight, and very cute ass for guys who like slim and don't need tits.
Repeat would be easy decision as a yes. I guess no anal available in this shop.
Has worked 3 weeks here after working Karaoke bar in Singapore. Just 20 year old.
Gannaton48
10-03-15, 10:29
Started a short survey of some line ups at about 2. 30 pm. First Bongkot for first time. 4 fat girls and one thinner but ugly available. Better girls probably busy or not yet arrived.
Moved on. To Snow White looking for the new Emmy. She clearly wasn't there. Line up had more girls and a bit better than Bongkot but no one really to my taste at all. No one doable for me.
Next Dream Heaven 26. One girl reasonnable looking but very straight hips and fake nose. The hot slim girl "mai yark soo gap Farang" doesn't take Farangs.
Moved to Soi 24/1 passing some shops, no girls sitting. It's raining a little. Passing B&B spotted ine very cute slim girl. On to my normal shop Can Cam. Line up well below usual only 4 girls. Lek is cute and white skin but nose a bit broad. Might be a nose job.
Maybe pretty girls vusy or not yet turned up..Sorry, may sound stupid but being not (yet) familiar with Bangkok: what do you mean by B&B? Which salon is that?
Yeh he wanted to know if she recovered after he may have done her damage, I guess. If I was asking, that would be my reason. Anyway I don't care if that is his reason or not. He may be more shy to say everything than me.Hey guys,
Please stop the BS and don't get carried away in false assumptions here. Beer has been visiting her family.
Hey guys,
Please stop the BS and don't get carried away in false assumptions here. Beer has been visiting her family.Apologies I hope was clear I don't know anything at all and don't even know the girl. Was just indicating there are possible reasons for a strange question aand I may well have picked the wrong one as a guess.
Sorry, may sound stupid but being not (yet) familiar with Bangkok: what do you mean by B&B? Which salon is that?Sorry forget to say that this shop is located in Sukhumvit Soi 24/1.
Hey guys,
Please stop the BS and don't get carried away in false assumptions here. Beer has been visiting her family.Thank you Mick.
To the other 'contributors', I can only say:
Silence is golden, unless you have something meaningful to say.
Thank you Mick.
To the other 'contributors', I can only say:
Silence is golden, unless you have something meaningful to say.Strangely worded question. Then you said any comment welcome. Seemed to be an invitation to make a joke to me. Sorry to those who were so upset. I think it was clear I was not writing facts. M.
Next Dream Heaven 26. One girl reasonnable looking but very straight hips and fake nose. The hot slim girl "mai yark soo gap Farang" doesn't take Farangs.
Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely never go to that place.
IMO shops in areas with customers from different nationalities shouldn't be employing girls with that attitude. There are plenty of Asian-only places she could work (if they'd employ her). If shops do employ such girls they lose my custom, so they can make their own choice about what the best business decision is. I've never seen any girl who did much for me in any of the Dream Heaven places but now I'll definitely boycott all of them.
BTW what is this 'soo' word in Thai script?
Member #4698
10-04-15, 09:57
Coincidently, I too stopped by Addict Massage yesterday afternoon around 3:30. There were 5 or 6 girls milling around outside the shop. I goofed around with them a little and asked if this was Addict Massage. The girls smiled, one laughed, and they asked me to come inside. The girl who laughed caught my eye. She had an exotic Southern look; she was slender, but a little taller than most of the girls, sporting a nice natural cleavage which I assumed was formed from her push up bra, and she had a nice infectious smile. I walked in and was immediately escorted to a couch where a line up of approximately 20 girls was assembled in less than 2 minutes. The girls from outside the shop were part of it. The hostess remembered me from my March / April visits and suggested Ya Ya saying she was a small "natural" girl, (Ha Ha), who gave good massages. Ya Ya looked pretty good, but I was drawn to the exotic girl with the big smile I had met outside the shop. So after making sure that "be" was all natural, ca, I chose her. This turned out to be a real good decision. By the way, I am sorry, but in a short while I know most of you guys will understand why I must protect "be's identity somewhat.
So "be" seemed to be real happy I had chosen her. She clung to me as we decided on my level of service. I chose the bath tub room and 90 minute lotion massage, but we never got around to the massage part. I paid in advance (Addict policy) with a credit card and she escorted me upstairs. "be" apologized for the smallish room and told me the parlour was very busy today so the larger tub rooms a level up were all occupied. I didn't mind too much as the room was adequate to my purposes, but I found out later that the tub was very very small and we had trouble both fitting into it, but I will come to that part of the session later.
After "be" went and got her little basket of goodies, she turned on the tap. As the tub began to fill with water, we began to make out on the bed. "be" was a kisser so we Frenched and she sucked my tongue. I thought I was in Makati for a minute. We took off our clothes and I was pleased to discover she had real nice pear shaped breasts (no sagging) with dark round areolas. I cupped them and kissed her breasts. "be" then asked if I wanted a massage and I said ok, so I laid on my back in order to see her pretty body as she would have massaged me. But instead, she began to kiss me again and then slowly kissed her way down to my nipples and then further south to my dick. She laughed and teased it for a little while until she took it all the way in. I just laid back and enjoyed the service.
After a good long while "be" broke off saying she wanted to turn off the water so it did not overflow the tub. She came back to bed and I sat up and rolled her over on her back. I began Frenching her some more, then I moved south to kiss and suck her breasts. By this time in the get together I had decided to go down on her so I continued kissing my way further south stopping only for a final inspection. Her pussy was beautiful so I placed my lips softly on her lips. I always like to start out real slow. Girls are sensitive down there and I don't like to get ahead of things or rush it. But after their vaginas start to become moist they are ready for a more vigorous oral stimulation. So as "be" became wetter and wetter, her pussy opened up for me, I focused my tongue almost exclusively on her clit and labium. Then she became very wet as did my face and chin. Once in a while I would let my tongue wander and leave her vagina to lick the area where leg leg joins her body. Then I would move quickly back. The move seems to increase a girl's urgency more than just staying on her clit. I think Its the taking away of something pleasurable and then quickly restoring that pleasure that arouses them. I don't know. I just do what seems to work and I truly enjoy giving girls orgasms. The girls then usually pay it forward when its their turn to do so. Anyway, after who knows how long, "be" began to go into her orgasm and squeezed her thighs around my head and pressed my head down into her pussy. By this time I was sucking her entire pussy and taking it whole into my mouth while still tonguing her clit. Then she came.
When it was over, I moved up in between her legs and began kissing her face again. Meanwhile I began gently rubbing my dick in between her labium. I had brought one of dwindling number of Sagami 001's for the shag, but when "be" reached down and began rubbing my cock on her clit, I knew I wasn't going to be using a Sagami this afternoon. Sure enough as she rubbed my dick on her clit faster and faster, my little head entered her vagina. I looked into her big eyes, she smiled, and I eased all the way in. Ok. Enough with the details. Suffice it to say we had a real nice shag. It was a mish only shag, but I have a few moves in mish like shallow fast in / out, deep slow, and deep fast, not to mention round and round, one leg outside her leg, and two legs outside her legs. We did it all until I couldn't take it anymore and shot my load. I stayed inside her, kissing her, until l shrank out.
Then I suggested we finally take our soapy bath together. "be" laughed and we moved over hand in hand to the tub. As I prefaced earlier, the tub was very small and we had a little trouble both fitting in, but we worked it out. Then while facing each other in the tub, "be" gave me a short version of her life story. I have heard similar versions from many girls. "be's" version went something like this: she was working at Citi Bank in a low paying job while studying Accounting at University. Her father got sick with Diabetes, so it was up to her to help out with the medical payments. She quit her job, quit school temporarily, and has been working at Addicts for the last two months. Yada Yada Yada. I listened, I try to empathise, and try to give reasonable advice. "be" was pretty stoic about the whole thing and that is one of the reasons why I like girls like her. What can I say? Usually I hear more stories like this in the PI than in Thailand because Pinays still believe a white knight will come along and rescue them. "be" and I hugged after her story was over and then we washed each other. I really liked her pear shaped breasts. Then she rinsed me off and we reunited back on the bed after we had dried up.
Evidently there was still some time on the clock so "be" asked if I wanted a massage, but she never got to it. Instead, we began kissing and caressing each other, and "be" began singing a love song in my ear. She had a very pleasant voice and I told her so. She denied it, but seemed very happy that I was enjoying her singing, so she reached for her phone to play a few more of her favourite love songs. She sang along in my ear as I continued to kiss and caress her. And that's is how our session ended. We exchanged Line ID's and I took a few pictures of her. I would not say she is a stunner or anything close to that, but I would say she is a very nice looking Southern Thai girl. She has a very good body; no fat, nice skin tone, soft, but firm skin, and like I said she possess a great pair of "be" cup pear shaped ta ta's and a beautiful little box. But obviously, the nicest part to her is her attitude and personality. I had a pretty great time with her.
She asked me if I wanted to see her again and I told her I did. She asked when, Ha Ha, and I quickly calculated that Monday or Tuesday would probably work for me. And I was sincere about seeing her again, but this is BKK and a lot can happen before Monday. I am having a great time! I think I am going to visit the Lord tonight.
Coincidently, I too stopped by Addict Massage yesterday afternoon around 3:30. I am having a great time! I think I am going to visit the Lord tonight.Reports rather than one line questions and one line retorts.
Whilst perhaps over generous in detail it does provide an account, particularly useful for newbies, on what to expect at Addicts.
Nice report Natty. Addict definitely has some nice girls. I'm sceptical about her life story though. Are you sure she isn't another farm girl from Buriram feeding you a story she thinks you want to hear?
FlyingFuck787
10-04-15, 12:13
Hi all,
I've been a lurker for a long long time and thanks to you guys I have had some great times in a lot of cities across the world. This is my first report of my first MP experience in Bangkok.
I thought of visiting either an MP or a Soapie one Sunday early August. I was looking for some A+ service and I zeroed in on 3 places: Nataree, Bamboo and Cherry Massage. The day being a Sunday Nataree was closed, Bamboo was my next choice, I called them and asked for a Kinky Massage with A+ and they pointed me to a girl on the website who's the only one available for that. I honestly didn't like her. In all of my research Cherry Massage was somewhat more of a dark horse and I decided to visit it. It is super easy to find. Get off BTS on Phrom Prong and walk to it on Soi 24/1, right at the end of it. I went in and was greeted by a cheerful Mamasan. I told her I'm looking for A+ and she got 2 girls out, both of whom failed to impress me. I decided on not going through with A+ and she got the whole line up. I was disappointed, maybe the good ones were busy or maybe my expectations were too high, I didn't have time to leave and go somewhere else now. Initially I had thought of 2 hours but I decided on 1 hour with a girl with cute face and pleasantly plump natural body. I'm so glad I made that choice. Pinky was bubbly, cheerful and pleasing from the word go. We first hopped in the shower together where we touched each other everywhere, she knew what she was doing and was not in a hurry. After that action moved to the bed where she did everything I wanted, different positions and she had great BJ skill. There was no time watching and I did her twice in that hour. Her English was quite good too.
In spite of being disappointed by the line up the girl salvaged the situation by her skill. Now I know what you guys mean when you say it all depends on the skills not so much on the looks.
Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely never go to that place.
IMO shops in areas with customers from different nationalities shouldn't be employing girls with that attitude. There are plenty of Asian-only places she could work (if they'd employ her). If shops do employ such girls they lose my custom, so they can make their own choice about what the best business decision is. I've never seen any girl who did much for me in any of the Dream Heaven places but now I'll definitely boycott all of them.
BTW what is this 'soo' word in Thai script?Thailand is not like the west. ALL of the massage shops / brothels / gogos here are mismanaged like that LOL. No problem, up to you, etc. Is their philosophy, none of them are competing for your business. In fact there is a heavy amount of collusion instead. You boycott them, you might as well boycott all of them minus the falang managed / owned ones in Pattaya.
Nice report Natty. Addict definitely has some nice girls. I'm sceptical about her life story though. Are you sure she isn't another farm girl from Buriram feeding you a story she thinks you want to hear?Well, whether the story is true or not, she's telling him what she wants him to hear. There is some tactical reason for it. It's almost always the same narrative: "I used to work in an office" They throw that one out there if they want to appear as girlfriend material. Then. Sometimes there is talk about a sick buffalo / parent early on. That's probably their opener for a guy who they think is sponsor material (if they think he is like puddy in their hands), with the intention of dumping him as soon as he transfers over a car / house.
Thanks for the warning. I'll definitely never go to that place.
IMO shops in areas with customers from different nationalities shouldn't be employing girls with that attitude. There are plenty of Asian-only places she could work (if they'd employ her). If shops do employ such girls they lose my custom, so they can make their own choice about what the best business decision is. I've never seen any girl who did much for me in any of the Dream Heaven places but now I'll definitely boycott all of them.
BTW what is this 'soo' word in Thai script?I think you overreact just because one hot looking girl doesn't want Farangs. "Soo" literally means to fight with or struggle with someone. "dtor-soo" is a common expression to fight against something, perhaps an injustice.
Look many shops are somewhat oriented towards Korean and Japanese customers, "the easy customers". They have reputation to cum quick and not be too large on average. Some girls are not built to take a pounding from a big cock. Some have descended uterus and can get bruised badly quite easily. The only way they can work is to be selective. I would rather be refused that get a DS "Dick Scared" girl who arches back and has stiff legs to prevent much penetration at all costs, and turns out to be virtually unfuckable for me. Anyway a waste of money. I need girls who are relaxed in order to have any fun at all.
Coincidently, I too stopped by Addict Massage yesterday afternoon around 3:30. There were 5 or 6 girls milling around outside the shop. I goofed around with them a little and asked if this was Addict Massage. The girls smiled, one laughed, and they asked me to come inside. The girl who laughed caught my eye. She had an exotic Southern look; she was slender, but a little taller than most of the girls, sporting a nice natural cleavage which I assumed was formed from her push up bra, and she had a nice infectious smile. I walked in and was immediately escorted to a couch where a line up of approximately 20 girls was assembled in less than 2 minutes. The girls from outside the shop were part of it. The hostess remembered me from my March / April visits and suggested Ya Ya saying she was a small "natural" girl, (Ha Ha), who gave good massages. Ya Ya looked pretty good, but I was drawn to the exotic girl with the big smile I had met outside the shop. So after making sure that "be" was all natural, ca, I chose her. This turned out to be a real good decision. By the way, I am sorry, but in a short while I know most of you guys will understand why I must protect "be's identity somewhat.
Ha Ha. I must have missed you by a rather short time. I was probably there only slightly later. I did not see another Farang, that I can recall. You must have been lucky to get a "natural" girl. Would you agree the vast majority (around 90% without actually counting) had fake noses or was I exaggerating (over reacting). Anyway unfortunately the girl I liked was taken and just collecting her basket of materials to go upstairs I guess. Could have even been your girl for all I know. The one I liked looked quite slim and maybe taller than most, not the whitest skin, with a narrow pretty face and seemingly real nose. Never found out her name though. Perhaps I should have asked for next time. I may try again on a quiet day.
For guys that don't mind the fake noses, I would have to guess the line up is better than just about every other shop around. I wonder how many rooms they have for so many girls.
I didn't read your full detail of the session, since you don't say who it is, but I guess you are showing what is possible at Addict with a good choice.
Blanquiceleste
10-04-15, 15:34
I would not say she is a stunner or anything close to that, but I would say she is a very nice looking Southern Thai girl. She has a very good body; no fat, nice skin tone, soft, but firm skin, and like I said she possess a great pair of "be" cup pear shaped ta ta's and a beautiful little box. But obviously, the nicest part to her is her attitude and personality. I had a pretty great time with her.Great time you had Natty! Love the way you write. Reposes my faith in Thailand. When you refer to attitude surely that has no reference to the fact that she let you shag her bareback?
I think you overreact just because one hot looking girl doesn't want Farangs. "Soo" literally means to fight with or struggle with someone. "dtor-soo" is a common expression to fight against something, perhaps an injustice.
The good thing about these massage shops is that they're hassle free. You go in, choose your girl, do your thing and leave. As soon you start getting girls turning down customers who don't meet their racial preference then that creates a hassle for me so I'll take my business elsewhere. I'd rather patronise shops free of these attitudes.
Also 'soo soo' is a common expression of encouragement but the expression "mai yark soo gap Farang" is odd. It means 'doesn't want to fight with farang'? Or is 'soo' a euphemism for fuck?
The good thing about these massage shops is that they're hassle free. You go in, choose your girl, do your thing and leave. As soon you start getting girls turning down customers who don't meet their racial preference then that creates a hassle for me so I'll take my business elsewhere. I'd rather patronise shops free of these attitudes.
Also 'soo soo' is a common expression of encouragement but the expression "mai yark soo gap Farang" is odd. It means 'doesn't want to fight with farang'? Or is 'soo' a euphemism for fuck?Soo Soo means "fight fight" or don't give up. Soo or tussle with a Farang could certainly be a Euphemism for fuck in this context. That should be obvious enough.
Its's not a racial predudice really at all, most likely. It's a generalisation about damage by Farang cock more likely. Once a girl has had problems more than once, she just doesn't want to take the risk. I have had girls want to see the cock first before deciding to take me or not, after I claimed to be very gentle.
I also meet plenty of girls that turn dick scared and sieze up when comes time to fuck.
Any shop could have one girl who won't join the line up when a Farang is the guest.
I've been back in the States for a few weeks now so this is overdue. I owe the last 2 days of my trip, it's not much, but someone folks might find this useful or interesting.
After experiencing Dr. BJ's salon, which is pretty amazing, I don't think I'd find this type of service anywhere else in the world. Sure you can get a BJ anywhere but the way their set up works is pretty unique for Thailand.
Later that day, I wanted to try an SW experience so as I was walking back to my hotel on Soi 4, I saw one that was fairly pretty, about a 8/10 on the scale. Short about 5 feet tall with small tits and didn't really speak a lick of English except for she quoted me 1000 baht, so sure what the hell. We walk back to my hotel and she's speaking Thai to me and I have no clue what she's jabbing about. Back at the hotel, she showers and comes out and hits the mini bar for the white wine (most expensive thing in the fridge) so I say sure ok, then she asks for the Rocherer Chocolate (also the most expensive chocolates of all the candies) Finally we get down to business, she didn't have condoms and no KY. Luckily I at least came with comdoms. The whole thing lasted like 5 minutes because I just wanted to finish and get her out of the room. Her raiding the mini bar was a real turn off for me. Anyways, I'm done and she stays on the bed and pretty much fell asleep for about 45 minutes. Maybe I agreed to this, who knows what she was talking about in Thai to me. I gave her my Thai temporary number and she finally left after about an hour. Later on that night, I saw on my caller ID that she was calling me. No idea why but I didn't pick up because I knew I wouldn't understand what she'd be wanting anyways.
After this disappointing experience, later that night I was walking past the RaJak hotel, and I remember researching this place before on ISG, Russians and Columbians. Walked in and was greeted by a papasan, he walks me around and starts pointing at girls and naming off prices, they all ranged from 2800 baht to 3200 baht. Columbians were cheaper and the Russians were more expensive. I saw this Russian that was about 5'9, blonde and was a stunner. I mean WOW. Followed the papasan to the front desk to pay and he asks me if I brought condoms, I thought they supplied this! I said no, and he said 100 baht to sell me one. Whatever. Upstairs with the girl and she tells me she's from Ukraine. Typical, shower together, BJ and FS. Service was mostly standard stuff, but during missionary just having her long legs next to my head was so exciting. If It weren't so expensive I would for sure return.
What I really regret was not having more time to venture over to Soi 3 to see the Russian and African SW's. The rain also put a damper on venturing over there. Does anyone have good stories about Soi 3?
Was in BKK for the first time around 2 months ago for 3 days, the first day I went to Nataree, did not have a good time.
I went a bit early, at first I got the wrong entrance (to the oily section I think) the went to the main one, the fish bowl nothing caught my attention there weren't many sideliners. The papasan was friendly bit seemed a bit in a hurry, I made the mistake of agreeing to a sideliner her recommended. She was average looking but she was smiling at me so I thought why not.
Long story short an OK CBJ followed by the dreaded starfish.
Damage 3400 thb.
Christian G
10-05-15, 10:40
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After this disappointing experience, later that night I was walking past the RaJak hotel, and I remember researching this place before on ISG, Russians and Columbians. Walked in and was greeted by a papasanDo you need to go inside hotel receptions?
After this disappointing experience, later that night I was walking past the RaJak hotel, and I remember researching this place before on ISG, Russians and Columbians. Walked in and was greeted by a papasan, he walks me around and starts pointing at girls and naming off prices, they all ranged from 2800 baht to 3200 baht. Columbians were cheaper and the Russians were more expensive. I saw this Russian that was about 5'9, blonde and was a stunner. I mean WOW. Followed the papasan to the front desk to pay and he asks me if I brought condoms, I thought they supplied this! I said no, and he said 100 baht to sell me one. Whatever. Upstairs with the girl and she tells me she's from Ukraine. Condoms are 98 Baht for 3 at the 7 Eleven so I guess its a scheme to make more money, just like most ST Hotels are selling condoms too. I always have my own softer fit condoms. I would have thought most working girls would have condoms but I could be wrong. LOL. I don't take a chance with disliking a girl's condom. I never get offered bareback, perhaps because I put the condoms on the table. Then again I almost never get offered anal either even at Snow White or Mango etc. PSE shops.
I have only ever had good experiences with Ukraine girls (not many and not in Thailand). Worth a look just to find out.
When taking a girl to hotel room, I almost always ask her if she wants anything at the shop to avoid her raiding the Hotel minibar (at a higher cost). Girls love to open something else other than the free water, without any thought if it has a rip off price attached to it like Evian Water.
later that night I was walking past the RaJak hotel, and I remember researching this place before on ISG, Russians and Columbians. Walked in and was greeted by a papasan, he walks me around and starts pointing at girls and naming off prices, they all ranged from 2800 baht to 3200 baht. Columbians were cheaper and the Russians were more expensive. I saw this Russian that was about 5'9, blonde and was a stunner. I mean WOW. Followed the papasan to the front desk to pay and he asks me if I brought condoms, I thought they supplied this! I said no, and he said 100 baht to sell me one. Whatever. Upstairs with the girl and she tells me she's from Ukraine. Typical, shower together, BJ and FS. Service was mostly standard stuff, but during missionary just having her long legs next to my head was so exciting. If It weren't so expensive I would for sure return.
What I really regret was not having more time to venture over to Soi 3 to see the Russian and African SW's. The rain also put a damper on venturing over there. Does anyone have good stories about Soi 3?Just to clarify, the prices you paid were around 3000 including the sex?
I paid 2900 baht at the Rajak. 2800 for the girl and 100 for 3 condoms. Only used one condom though cause only one pop.
Just to clarify, the prices you paid were around 3000 including the sex?
Yes, you go to reception to pay the bill. It's a weird set up. I think the 3rd floor is for sex and everything above is living quarters. I didn't see anyone checking in or using the Rajak as a actual hotel though. The hall way on the 3rd floor were creepy looking. Think The Shinning.
Do you need to go inside hotel receptions?
Syz, you have any insites on Soi 3 SWs?
Condoms are 98 Baht for 3 at the 7 Eleven so I guess its a scheme to make more money, just like most ST Hotels are selling condoms too. I always have my own softer fit condoms. I would have thought most working girls would have condoms but I could be wrong. LOL. I don't take a chance with disliking a girl's condom. I never get offered bareback, perhaps because I put the condoms on the table. Then again I almost never get offered anal either even at Snow White or Mango etc. PSE shops.
I have only ever had good experiences with Ukraine girls (not many and not in Thailand). Worth a look just to find out.
When taking a girl to hotel room, I almost always ask her if she wants anything at the shop to avoid her raiding the Hotel minibar (at a higher cost). Girls love to open something else other than the free water, without any thought if it has a rip off price attached to it like Evian Water.
I paid 2900 baht at the Rajak. 2800 for the girl and 100 for 3 condoms. Only used one condom though cause only one pop.Why are guys consistently using the word "Rajak"? Has it changed name from Rajah Hotel? Or forum software is changing the spelling? I don't get it.
JackieChino
10-06-15, 06:14
Can anyone report on who the current superstars are at tulip, snow white, mango, candy, cherry, bamboo and bongkot?
Syz, you have any insites on Soi 3 SWs?Ask a question of the forum. The question doesn't interest me, particularly and know nothing much. I don't go to Soi 3 at all, since more than 20 years ago when "The Grace" coffee shop was a lesser alternative to the Thermae. Long ago, I stayed in Grace Hotel once and Zenith once, but don't really have any interest in the area. Feel like "Stranger in a Strange Land". My favourite Soi is Soi 23 for various reasons, and Soi 24/1 for the great Japanese restaurant. LOL.
When coming from Petchburi road to Sukhumvit, traffic in Soi 3 can be bad. I have been known to risk motorcycle travel to get to somewhere like Soi 7/1 really quickly. From Soi 19, for example, can take a motorcycle through back Sois to mouth of Soi 13. Then its a very short walk to Subway at Soi 7/1 for example, or even not far to Soi 4 or Soi 8 on other side. I really do not use Sois 3 to 7 at all. It's sometimes known as the Arab quarter there, for obvious reasons, and has a totally different vibe to other areas.
Can anyone report on who the current superstars are at tulip, snow white, mango, candy, cherry, bamboo and bongkot?Good question, for someone really expert in the PSE shops. I would also like to know who are the best looking slim girls in these shops with and without silicones, that provide good service (not necessarily best service). I don't have too many good looking girls on my list right now from the PSE shops. There must be some?
Newbie Emmy from Snow White was adequately good looking for me, with nice natural tits, but a pity about the nose job detracts from the looks a bit. Service may not include A+. Good GFE but service may not be that super special. Has been on holidays recently. I haven't had an astonishing service level lately in the Oilies.
Randy Murican
10-06-15, 07:05
Why are guys consistently using the word "Rajak"? Has it changed name from Rajah Hotel? Or forum software is changing the spelling? I don't get it.I think it was a typo as h & j are next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard. Once started it snowballed in subsequent posts. Best not to overthink things too much. Regards.
Why are guys consistently using the word "Rajak"? Has it changed name from Rajah Hotel? Or forum software is changing the spelling? I don't get it.I've never made that mistake myself but when you look at the Rajah Hotel's sign, the H looks very much like a K. That might have aided in misleading people. However, the fact that the H in the very next word, Hotel, is clearly the same letter as the H at the end of the word Rajah, it would be hard to be misled for very long unless you think the name of the place is Rajak Kotel. Whatever that means. Haha.
Google Images for Rajah Hotel Bangkok.
https://www.google.com/search?site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=634&q=rajah+hotel+Bangkok&oq=Rajah+Hotel+Bangkok&gs_l=img. 1. 0. 0 l2 j0 i30 j0 i24 l4. 5051.11665. 0. 15704.23. 16.2. 5. 5. 0. 112.1456. 15 j1. 16.0. 0. 1 ac. 1. 64. Img. 2. 21.1379. JSE_uiAu-6 see.
Good question, for someone really expert in the PSE shops. I would also like to know who are the best looking slim girls in these shops with and without silicones, that provide good service (not necessarily best service). I don't have too many good looking girls on my list right now from the PSE shops. There must be some?
Newbie Emmy from Snow White was adequately good looking for me, with nice natural tits, but a pity about the nose job detracts from the looks a bit. Service may not include A+. Good GFE but service may not be that super special. Has been on holidays recently. I haven't had an astonishing service level lately in the Oilies.Hey Syz, Seems that June has reappeared. Have a look at "Rita" on the Bongkot website.
Can anyone report on who the current superstars are at tulip, snow white, mango, candy, cherry, bamboo and bongkot?Had a sesh with Benz at SW the other day. While not a new gal, she is 34 and has been working for quite sometime, she is really an amazing performer. She has had a kid but shows no real visible signs of it, especially now that she as added a pair of E cup breast. And might I add, the surgeon did a very very good job. She really does look like a porn star as well as performing like one.
Benz seems to really like sex and goes at it with an energy that I have seen in very few gals. I would advise hitting a bit of Vitamin V and bringing you A game, because the gal is not quick to finish and is actually quite demanding. Oral skill are very good as well. She was able to DT me to the hilt, something only one other gal in BKK has managed to do. A+ and up for anything. WIR? At some point, but only when I want a really full on experience.
Thanks Josh. Also on the actual sign at the hotel, it looks like a H.
I think it was a typo as h & j are next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard. Once started it snowballed in subsequent posts. Best not to overthink things too much. Regards.
Thanks Josh. Also on the actual sign at the hotel, it looks like a H.Thanks Dinotrex for clarifying. So is the name Rahak? I am very much interested in this property so want to dig deeper with correct name.
Hey Syz, Seems that June has reappeared. Have a look at "Rita" on the Bongkot website.Wow, I guessed she could not be absent too long. She has explained her financial issues to me, that virtually means she cannot quit permanently in the foreseeable future, unless found a man with very good continuous money supply. LOL. Good to have another pretty skinny amongst the fatties.
She must be sick of the name June? Shock of all shocks. Looks like a real undoctored pic of June. Looking at the face, she may have gained a few pounds. Hope the body is still slimmish.
One of my very few really long term favourites. She lacked confidence is the early days being a bit of a pessimist, but these days may well understand she is better than most girls in several respects, be it body or performance.
I think it was a typo as h & j are next to each other on a QWERTY keyboard. Once started it snowballed in subsequent posts. Best not to overthink things too much. Regards.Okay Once a typo sure, but many times is like a disease? I guess some guys just did not know the name despite posting about visiting it. Anyway H and K are not quite next to each other on keyboard, but good try. H&J are just not relevant in this case. Sorry to be the picky pedantic one. I am well known for it. LOL.
Really grates on my ears when I hear horrible mispronunciations of places like Pattaya and Phuket that are not even close. I suppose that is why we get all this "Patts" stuff these days, because guys can't pronounce the real names. I even get guys with no Thai speaking ability correcting my pronunciation of Pattaya, because they have never heard the real pronunciation from the Thai people. To be fair, Thai place names are often fairly tough to get right, and doesn't help when the English spellings are weird. Real Thai script makes pronunciation unambiguous, but its a complex alphabet.
I guess Rajah is the English spelling of the Indian word. Just to confuse things, in Thai it's known as the Raachaa Hotel (ราชา) meaning "king" as Thai borrows some words from languages like Sanskrit. English spellings of Thai words have been known to interchange letters 'J' and "CH", just to makes things more confusing.
I once asked a taxi to go to the Indra-Regent hotel as a newbie to Thailand. Taxi took me to the Regent or Regency Hotel, I believe. May have changed it's name in the modern day. Anyway I learned that I had to say "In-trar" without the word Regent to get taxi to understand. Here is a useful tip. If going to Colonze massage by taxi, you need to ask for "Koh-lawn-SAY" rhymes with Beyoncé.
I confess to plenty of spelling errors myself. Butter fingers on a smartphone.
JackieChino
10-06-15, 10:46
Good question, for someone really expert in the PSE shops. I would also like to know who are the best looking slim girls in these shops with and without silicones, that provide good service (not necessarily best service). I don't have too many good looking girls on my list right now from the PSE shops. There must be some?
Newbie Emmy from Snow White was adequately good looking for me, with nice natural tits, but a pity about the nose job detracts from the looks a bit. Service may not include A+. Good GFE but service may not be that super special. Has been on holidays recently. I haven't had an astonishing service level lately in the Oilies.Usually when I have time, I would do my rounds of all the oilies.
However, I am going to short of time during my next visit as my meetings are all in phuket. I will probably have time for only 3 sessions.
My current full list is:
Snow white: Benz, Bonus, Candy, EQ, Nana.
Bongkot: None yet.
Mango: Meena, Nita, Yok.
Candy: Yaya.
Tulip: June.
This list is made purely from the profile on their respective websites. I will need to choose 3 from that list.
Please feel free to add to this list or comment.
JackieChino
10-06-15, 10:47
Had a sesh with Benz at SW the other day. While not a new gal, she is 34 and has been working for quite sometime, she is really an amazing performer. She has had a kid but shows no real visible signs of it, especially now that she as added a pair of E cup breast. And might I add, the surgeon did a very very good job. She really does look like a porn star as well as performing like one.
Benz seems to really like sex and goes at it with an energy that I have seen in very few gals. I would advise hitting a bit of Vitamin V and bringing you A game, because the gal is not quick to finish and is actually quite demanding. Oral skill are very good as well. She was able to DT me to the hilt, something only one other gal in BKK has managed to do. A+ and up for anything. WIR? At some point, but only when I want a really full on experience.Thanks for your report.
I have read a similar review of Benz elsewhere which is why she is on the top of my list for my next visit.
Hey Syz, Seems that June has reappeared. Have a look at "Rita" on the Bongkot website.I can foresee Rita reading this and thinking that she knows who Syzy is. Almost a self fullfilling prophesy. Very experienced girls do know about this forum.
Better not say much other than Rita has natural A cups slim legs and nice ass, not too large. Always good service. After being away a while she could be quite horny. LOL.
Bongkot has Nuru gel apparently. I like to try that with everything very slippy slidey, almost hands free. No real massage for me.
Had a sesh with Benz at SW the other day. *snip*.I haven't posted a review of a specific girl in a quite a while (for a bunch of reasons, I think writing about a specific girl and giving her name is a bad idea) but I had a similar session with Benz about a month ago. Great time for all concerned --that is, both of us. But this report is actually about Snow White and training.
I wandered into Snow White in mid-afternoon and sort of recognized Benz from some previous encounter, but the new super-sized enhanced boobs caught my eye. I generally avoid enhancements, but this looked right to me. When I selected Benz I disappointed someone who was actually on my mind when I went into the shop. She clearly remembered me.
Anyway, when we got to the room, Benz told me that she had a booking two hours later. I was not too concerned because I had booked a 90 minute session, but evidently she needs some recuperation time. I said that I was ok, because I'm two-pops-and-gone these days and no problem if we finish in one hour. Jee-zus what a time. She basically jumped me and pinned me down for a spectacular DT blow job. (My preferred session is a full on fuck, some rest, and end up with a BBBJCIM but I was just off a long flight and horny.) I made some attempt to get her off me and get the rubber on, but gave up and gave in. After round one and not long after, she was sucking on me while fingering herself with one hand and squeezing on one of her enhanced boobs with the other. Just the positioning was an impressive feat, and with the mirror, the views were pretty spectacular. Round 2 was a covered fuck. Then, will wonders never cease and hallelujah, there was a round 3. She politely asked me "pussy or mouth", just to set the record straight. One hour fifteen minutes in all.
What's remarkable to me (other than my aging body getting off 3 times in something over an hour) is that the routine is something that I first encountered in Tulip, oh-so-long ago. I wrote a report on my first time with Nong (how about that for ancient history?) who reminded me of Fa (Fon?) and later, Dao and others (but Dao stands out for many reasons) had the same routine. The someone I disappointed at Snow White that day has the same routine, right down to the fingering herself while giving me a blow job. I think the training for the girls at Snow White is a common denominator for good, sometimes great service. Yes, Benz is worth a repeat. So is the lady I passed on. So are several of the Snow White girls. Snow White is worth a repeat.
I haven't posted a review of a specific girl in a quite a while (for a bunch of reasons, I think writing about a specific girl and giving her name is a bad idea) but I had a similar session with Benz about a month ago.
I wandered into Snow White in mid-afternoon and sort of recognized Benz from some previous encounter, but the new super-sized enhanced boobs caught my eye. I generally avoid enhancements, but this looked right to me. When I selected Benz I disappointed someone who was actually on my mind when I went into the shop. She clearly remembered me.
Anyway, when we got to the room, Benz told me that she had a booking two hours later. I was not too concerned because I had booked a 90 minute session, but evidently she needs some recuperation time. I said that I was ok, because I'm two-pops-and-gone these days and no problem if we finish in one hour. Jee-zus what a time. She basically jumped me and pinned me down for a spectacular DT blow job. (My preferred session is a full on fuck, some rest, and end up with a BBBJCIM but I was just off a long flight and horny.) I made some attempt to get her off me and get the rubber on, but gave up and gave in. After round one and not long after, she was sucking on me while fingering herself with one hand and squeezing on one of her enhanced boobs with the other. Just the positioning was an impressive feat, and with the mirror, the views were pretty spectacular. Round 2 was a covered fuck. Then, will wonders never cease and hallelujah, there was a round 3. She politely asked me "pussy or mouth", just to set the record straight. One hour fifteen minutes in all.
What's remarkable to me (other than my aging body getting off 3 times in something over an hour) is that the routine is something that I first encountered in Tulip, oh-so-long ago. I wrote a report on my first time with Nong (how about that for ancient history?) who reminded me of Fa (Fon?) and later, Dao and others (but Dao stands out for many reasons) had the same routine. The someone I disappointed at Snow White that day has the same routine, right down to the fingering herself while giving me a blow job. I think the training for the girls at Snow White is a common denominator for good, sometimes great service. Yes, Benz is worth a repeat. So is the lady I passed on. So are several of the Snow White girls. Snow White is worth a repeat.
I actually think good reviews are free advertising for the gal's business. Gals that get written up sure do get booked at lot; at least in the short-term after the glowing review. It might be bad for guys who are wanting to keep it to themselves, but I see nothing but positives for the gal.
Interesting on the training though. I do find the old school gals to follow a formula, but many of the newer gals seem to lack in skill set. One of my ex-regulars from Tulip who has recently "retired" told me the gals get little to no training now. In the "good ole days" they did.
Funny, your preferred method, full on fuck, massage, and BBBJCIM is my preferred formula for a perfect 90 min as well.
Yes, you go to reception to pay the bill. It's a weird set up. I think the 3rd floor is for sex and everything above is living quarters. I didn't see anyone checking in or using the Rajak as a actual hotel though. The hall way on the 3rd floor were creepy looking. Think The Shinning.Anybody here stayed at the hotel?
Funny, your preferred method, full on fuck, massage, and BBBJCIM is my preferred formula for a perfect 90 min as well.I don't like a session to be too procedural. Proceeding down unusual variations can be good for me. However should start with some sort of in-shower play. Have to allow for different girls to be good at different things or like different things, some girls have beautiful ass, some don't.
A certain girl asked for a massage first up. WTF? No way is she going to get a massage wasting vast time. Then she points to her pussy and my mouth. She is too shy to say she wants a good DATY or pussy licking, no matter which language. LOL. The room is bad with bed closed in by a wall at one end and shower at other end. Normal DATY position means I would have to be on the floor next to the bed. No cushions except the main pillow. Therefore looks like I have to be upside down for the DATY so she gets the nose massage in pussy concurrently. Only a short time needed as she isn't jaded. Then move on to other things including nuru Gel massage of nuts by tits, dick by bottom, etc. Soon 69, cowgirl with tit play, fucking in various other positions, etc. Did not take a CIM on this occasion but plenty of other times have. Probably never had exactly same procedure before. Did not take an A+ as felt she was out of practice for that. Better she eases into that over time. Pussy was already very tight at the beginning of session.
Various positions used, hope to get best visuals as well when the girl is hot looking, while normal mish doesn't have that.
I haven't posted a review of a specific girl in a quite a while (for a bunch of reasons, I think writing about a specific girl and giving her name is a bad idea) but I had a similar session with Benz about a month ago. Great time for all concerned --that is, both of us. But this report is actually about Snow White and training.
I wandered into Snow White in mid-afternoon and sort of recognized Benz from some previous encounter, but the new super-sized enhanced boobs caught my eye. I generally avoid enhancements, but this looked right to me. When I selected Benz I disappointed someone who was actually on my mind when I went into the shop. She clearly remembered me.
Anyway, when we got to the room, Benz told me that she had a booking two hours later. I was not too concerned because I had booked a 90 minute session, but evidently she needs some recuperation time. I said that I was ok, because I'm two-pops-and-gone these days and no problem if we finish in one hour. Jee-zus what a time..Was the BJ all DT rhe whole time? That's hard to find. Takes whole lot of training.
I only ever get DT for a few seconds then gagging. I nearly got vomited on once.
She will be on my to do list for the next visit. LOL.
Any other girls who can give good DT?
Had a sesh with Benz at SW the other day. While not a new gal, she is 34 and has been working for quite sometime, she is really an amazing performer. She has had a kid but shows no real visible signs of it, especially now that she as added a pair of E cup breast. And might I add, the surgeon did a very very good job. She really does look like a porn star as well as performing like one.
Benz seems to really like sex and goes at it with an energy that I have seen in very few gals. I would advise hitting a bit of Vitamin V and bringing you A game, because the gal is not quick to finish and is actually quite demanding. Oral skill are very good as well. She was able to DT me to the hilt, something only one other gal in BKK has managed to do. A+ and up for anything. WIR? At some point, but only when I want a really full on experience.Is she really slim like the website pic suggests? Most girls when I have entered SW are not, but I have probably never seen Benz.
Is she really slim like the website pic suggests? Most girls when I have entered SW are not, but I have probably never seen Benz.Pics are for sure a few years old. She is a tall and big gal. She is not a spinner. She is built for power; not for speed. I would not describe her as fat. You might not have seen her. She is quite busy.
Member #4698
10-07-15, 08:45
I went to the Lord Massage parlour Sunday night. It is a very opulent place indeed. I was prepared to pay large for a session, but nonetheless, I was amazed by the prices I was quoted by a red suited papasan:
7000 to 9000 bt for side line girls. There were three, one was hot.
6000 bt for a couple of good looking "R" category girls.
Despite huge reservations that I was being price gouged I decided to take one of the two better looking "R" girls. This, only after the better looking of the two "R" girls was snatched right out from under me by a Chinese punter. The session was quite good and individualized with J, however, and we ran 15 minutes overtime. I will post a detailed report later, but in the meantime, does anybody have a price list of Lord Girls? I checked with their web site and they do not divulge their prices, which I do find peculiar as prices are given for Victoria and Copa Cabana, two sister massage parlours.
I went to the Lord Massage parlour Sunday night. It is a very opulent place indeed. I was prepared to pay large for a session, but nonetheless, I was amazed by the prices I was quoted by a red suited papasan:
7000 to 9000 bt for side line girls. There were three, one was hot.
6000 bt for a couple of good looking "R" category girls.
Despite huge reservations that I was being price gouged I decided to take one of the better looking "R" girls. This, only after the better looking "R" girl was snatched right out from under me by a Chinese looking punter. The session was quite good and individualized with J, however, and we ran 15 minutes overtime. I will post a detailed report later, but in the meantime, does anybody have a price list of Lord Girls? I checked with their web site and they do not divulge their prices, which I do find peculiar as prices are given for Victoria and Copa Cabana, two sister massage parlours.I have not bought there. Could be a very serious Farang surcharge, or prices at the whim of papa-san / mama-san. I don't know for a fact. Prices do seem extraordinary.
La belle has 1 K Farang surcharge and Utopia was even worse with 1. 5 K Farang surcharge. Price at Caesars was close to double the local rate when I went there, even I could speak Thai well.
Thai Massage Models site has prices for most Soapies, but may be out of date. Also may not show Farang surcharges. "The Lord" is missing from their prices page.
http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/pricelist.php
I previously thought this was a spelling error from somewhere as the Thai name for this place is / was TharnThong.
Have sessioned there a couple of times. Some nice looking girls if arrive at the right time.
However it seems the new altered name is official to make it easier for Farangs. Here is the new website:
http://www.taragon-entertainment.com/our-model/
"Shopping fun". Ha Ha! A special type of shopping.
ธารากอน อาบอบนวด (TARAGON Entertainment) so name has changed even for the Thais.
Their Map with Thai script is even more confusing as has no North arrow, and North is not upwards but to the right of the Map.
Confusing to me but not to Thais I guess. No clue why they don't put North upward as usual. Just to be tricky.
Anyway its located on the left (west side) a few hundred metres North of Mengjai junction.
Here:
https://goo.gl/maps/TMbUiZAuBxL2
Street view:
https://goo.gl/maps/R7Ay3kWHWLN2
Odd location but not much worse than Victoria's Secret "secret" location. Don't expect much English ability with girls at this place.
Member #4698
10-07-15, 09:41
I went to Boss Massage on Monday afternoon around 3:30 pm. The line up of 8 girls was weak IMHO, but one of the girls was cute and she looked like she had a good body. She also exhibited a friendly and open personality so I decided to take her: 1900 bt for 60 minutes. "NN" out to be completely charming and very naughty. I like her so much that I think I am going to go see her again this afternoon as soon as I sign off from this web page. So I am going to make this short:
We went up to a barely adequate room. "NN" began kissing and sucking my tongue. A number of BKK girls have been doing this to me lately. I don't know what's come over them. Ha Ha. She told me she was Issan, surprise surprise, and that it was her birthday today and she was 19. I wished her a happy birthday. Then she disrobbed revealing cute little surfboard tities. She was shy about them, but I told her they were lovely and I began sucking on her brown pointy nipples. She blew me in the shower and washed me everywhere including my anal area. I responded appropriately and she asked if I liked it there to which I replied, yeah.
In bed she poured some oil on her body and pussy and began giving me a body to body massage, really working her pussy into the action. After a while I flipped over onto my back and she continued the body massage on my front side. Then she asked me to lift my legs up and she inserted her tongue into my A-hole. After plenty of effort down below, she got back on top of me again and turned around so she could give me a BBBJ in the reverse position with her ass and pussy directly in my face. She had an utterly adorable puffy labia minora and her pussy was very oiled & lubed up so I glided and massaged my hand everywhere over her labium and clitoris, but I refrained from going down on her for some reason. Maybe I will smoke her today? I do not know.
After a while she turned around and asked if I wanted to shag and I said yes. She applied one of my Sagami 002's (I only have 1 Sagami 001 left.) and impaled herself on my dick cowgirl. Her pussy felt great. I palmed her very small breasts and away we went in various cowgirl positions. After a while I began to get impassioned so I picked her up and placed her on her back. Her body was near the side of the bed and I had one leg on the floor, yet I continued to shag her anyway. After a while I got tired in this position, so I moved her more towards the center of the bed and continued on in missionary until I shot my load. It was a very good session.
We lay together afterwards and kissed and sucked tongues. Again, unusual, but this has been happening to me a lot this trip. We soaped each other up in the shower and I slided all around her chest. She began massaging my soapy dick and damn if I did not get hard again. But time was running out and rather than extend the session, I broke it off and said I would come back to see her again in a couple of days. We dried off and I took some nudie shots of her. Then I wished her happy birthday again and gave her a very nice tip (500 bt). Hand in hand she escorted me down the stairs to the lobby of sorts. The mamasan asked if I had a good time and I said yes. I even scheduled another session with NN for now. So bye guys, I am off to Boss Massage to see NN and will report back later.
BKK is great in the rainy season. I am loving it.
Pics are for sure a few years old. She is a tall and big gal. She is not a spinner. She is built for power; not for speed. I would not describe her as fat. You might not have seen her. She is quite busy.I would probably not take much notice if she is a bear rather than a gazelle.
I don't mind big tits at all, but rarely take a girl with big thighs. Must be I am scared to get my head crushed. LOL. I like to see girls standing, and often request them to stand up, to visually gauge if there is any air gap between the upper thighs. No gap, no pass, for my taste. Many SW girls suddenly look quite bulky when they stand.
Very possible I have never seen the most busy girls though, as I don't like to turn up too often with a wasted visit.
Would be great if we had pics of the girls, even if face is hidden and not totally naked, but at least to see what shape they really are. However I know some girls (like Rita) are not that keen on pics appearing, even she has a good body. If I post naked pics, I usually omit the head, just in case someone who knows her privately might see the pic. Still would not be good to post nude pics when shop website includes face pics allowing girls to be identified. I do appreciate shops that post real up to date pics of girls. Alas it's rare, except in case of girls so stunning, they don't need improving.
I posted a pic of Bai-Fern recently but I could swear the real girl (when met her 2+ years ago at Yorimichi) was even better looking than the pic, even I normally don't believe these claims.
Member #4698
10-07-15, 09:55
I have not bought there. Could be a very serious Farang surcharge, or prices at the whim of papa-san / mama-san. I don't know for a fact. Prices do seem extraordinary. "The Lord" is missing from their (web) prices page.
This is what I think may have happened too. The Lord quotes given to me were significantly higher than at La Belle for more or less similar quality girls. My story is more involved than I indicated in my initial report, but I find all this to be very shady. An S category girl at La Belle is 2800 bt plus the farang tax of 1000 bt. Even the quoted prices for same same category girls at Victoria and Copa Cabana girls are exactly in line with what I would expect. So I am very suspicious of the way I was dealt with at the Lord and the way they cloud up the prices.
At the time, I tried to get rid of the red suited papasan and obtain prices from another host or hostess to no avail. When the better looking of the two "RR" category girls got taken right out from under me, I made up my mind to go for it and pay up this one time. If it turns out I was overcharged, then I will never go to the Lord again. Although the girl was real nice and we are in Line communication. I may tell her I can't go to the Lord again, but would like to see her at my hotel and see what her response is. I think she may come visit me. She was real friendly if you know what I mean. LOL.
LOL. I see that my copy and pasted Google Images link below for the Rajah Hotel Bangkok sign did not carry over properly and now takes you to something very different. Anyway, do a Google Images search on the Rajah Hotel Bangkok and you will see how much the h in Rajah looks like the letter k, as I believe someone else mentioned too. However, that still does not explain why someone using the hotel sign as a guide for spelling the name of it would be misled for long since the very next word, "Hotel", begins with the same k looking letter.
Traveler1234
10-07-15, 15:19
I went to Boss Massage on Monday ...... damn if I did not get hard again. But time was running out and rather than extend the session, I broke it off and said I would come back to see her again in a couple of days. We dried off and I took some nudie shots of her. Then I wished her happy birthday again and gave her a very nice tip (500 bt). Hand in hand she escorted me down the stairs to the lobby of sorts. The mamasan asked if I had a good time and I said yes. I even scheduled another session with NN for now. So bye guys, I am off to Boss Massage to see NN and will report back later.
Curious to learn Boss is now multi-shot. If memory serves me right, my last visit paid B2200 for 90 minutes and only 1 shot. Enjoy NN!
However, that still does not explain why someone using the hotel sign as a guide for spelling the name of it would be misled for long since the very next word, "Hotel", begins with the same k looking letter.Could be because the mind preoccupied, in addition to insufficient blood flow to the brain as it is being redirected elsewhere.
May be it's the reason many newbies miss that Adam's apple and fall into the trap.
Happens to the best of us. It's a man on a mission situation those small details are irrelevant. Let's call it HGS " horny guy syndrome". LOL.
May be it's the reason many newbies miss that Adam's apple. "don't go shopping on an empty stomach" applies LOL.
I checked out Sensual Massage Bangkok this afternoon before the threatened rains hit. It is the sister shop to Analisa Massage. Finding it was easy as the website directions are straightforward. Decided on the "Testicle Massage Magic Hands Happy" and picked Som Poo from the lineup. I would guess she is in her early 20's, has braces, and said she had been working at SMB for 1 month.
The rooms are ok similar to Analisa, but with a little more privacy (walls go all the way to the ceiling) and a shower / tub in the room which are pluses. The main massage action was really very good. Som Poo put forth a lot of effort and encouraged feedback; to the point that she left the room for a moment to turn up the music in the hallway LOL. Happy happy at the end and all was good.
WIR? Yes, but it is a bit off the beaten path. The website has been flaky lately but here is the link: http://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/. FWIW the mamasan said that Candy had moved to Analisa, and Anna was no where to be found.
SunLover.
I went to the Lord Massage parlour Sunday night. It is a very opulent place indeed. I was prepared to pay large for a session, but nonetheless, I was amazed by the prices I was quoted by a red suited papasan:
7000 to 9000 bt for side line girls. There were three, one was hot.
6000 bt for a couple of good looking "R" category girls.
Despite huge reservations that I was being price gouged I decided to take one of the two better looking "R" girls. This, only after the better looking of the two "R" girls was snatched right out from under me by a Chinese punter. The session was quite good and individualized with J, however, and we ran 15 minutes overtime. I will post a detailed report later, but in the meantime, does anybody have a price list of Lord Girls? I checked with their web site and they do not divulge their prices, which I do find peculiar as prices are given for Victoria and Copa Cabana, two sister massage parlours.I went to The Lord finally, despite living here for awhile. I liked it a lot, too much. I'll go into details in this trip report:
Went to Huai Kwang because I live nearby and don't go anywhere else. I often go to Nataree because the girls are pretty hot (a lot of 8/10's, whereas all the other soapies are mere 7/10's at best it seems). Anyway I went to Nataree 3 times this week. Only one time (Wed) did I like what I saw. I went today (Fri) at 7 PM and it seems like maybe everything good had been picked thru. I saw 4 other Japs leaving after doing a quick walk thru. I left soon after as well, none of my regulars were there and most all of the girls looked 7/10 that night.
I went to Ceasars, as I have been here about 2 months ago. It looked like the same lineup to me, so I left. So many 6/10's in there, with a few 8/10's but not my type nor well priced. Seemed like a place only visited by a few old men, other than that it was kind of vacant. I used to prefer this place about a year ago. Had amazing models at 4200 which is a good price.
Running out of options, I was left with Alaina and colonze 2. I previously used to recommend these 2 but after pretty much knowing the line-up at Alaina is small and the few there aren't quite hitting my spot, I pass on them. Not a bad place, just not what I like. I also passed on Colonze 2 because it's mostly 7. 5/10's and that isn't quite my preference. They have a model section and I liked it quite a bit before (great service and 8/10's) but the selection can be limited and talent is snatched up quickly there.
So I'm going to The Lord finally. I want to see what's up with this place. When I get there I see a Rotunda with gorgeous women sitting in the middle. I think they even have a live pianist there too. The Mamasan asks me if it's my first time and I say yes, she shows me a price list with girls between 4-10 k baht, by model category. There were 20 women, and they were all gorgeous, maybe a few who could somehow pass for kind of hot but that may have been because they were sitting next to stunners. No plain / homely looking girls like at the other soapies. I picked one who must have been close to 5'10-5'11 and was just a real stunner overall, pretty intense compared to what I get at the other soapies. As others have reported, the service is great. BBBJ in tub, on bed, multiple positions, lots of enthusiasm, you get the entire 1:30, not sure about multiple pops though. She was an "M" category and cost 5800 baht. There were other girls who cost in the 4000 baht range as well. The mamasan handed me a business-card sized piece of paper with prices for each of the model categories.
Oh one last thing, the girls seemed to be pretty pleasant and eager to be picked, unlike at some other soapies where they seem worn out. These girls were mostly all leaning in and making direct eye contact while I was choosing. Nice to see they are very service oriented and they aren't shunning a majority of their customers like is really common at other soapies, where only about 20-40% seem to be interested in working.
So I will be back, not sure when as it is pricey. I can do the lord every day and still have spending money at the end of the day but The Lord would put me into debt LOL. Will have to be a special treat I guess. I'm wondering if I can just meet the girls there outside of that place for P4P as that may be way cheaper and the value of the women's looks and services there is amazing.
So, regarding the pricing. You should have seen some for 4000 baht. Not sure why not, and it sounds like the pricing.
Member #4698
10-10-15, 05:13
I went to The Lord finally, despite living here for awhile. I liked it a lot, too much. I'll go into details in this trip report:
So I'm going to The Lord finally. I want to see what's up with this place. When I get there I see a Rotunda with gorgeous women sitting in the middle. I think they even have a live pianist there too. The Mamasan asks me if it's my first time and I say yes, she shows me a price list with girls between 4-10 k baht, by model category. There were 20 women, and they were all gorgeous, maybe a few who could somehow pass for kind of hot but that may have been because they were sitting next to stunners. No plain / homely looking girls like at the other soapies. I picked one who must have been close to 5'10-5'11 and was just a real stunner overall, pretty intense compared to what I get at the other soapies. As others have reported, the service is great. BBBJ in tub, on bed, multiple positions, lots of enthusiasm, you get the entire 1:30, not sure about multiple pops though. She was an "M" category and cost 5800 baht. There were other girls who cost in the 4000 baht range as well. The mamasan handed me a business-card sized piece of paper with prices for each of the model categories.
Oh one last thing, the girls seemed to be pretty pleasant and eager to be picked, unlike at some other soapies where they seem worn out. These girls were mostly all leaning in and making direct eye contact while I was choosing. Nice to see they are very service oriented and they aren't shunning a majority of their customers like is really common at other soapies, where only about 20-40% seem to be interested in working.
So I will be back, not sure when as it is pricey. I can do the lord every day and still have spending money at the end of the day but The Lord would put me into debt LOL. Will have to be a special treat I guess. I'm wondering if I can just meet the girls there outside of that place for P4P as that may be way cheaper and the value of the women's looks and services there is amazing.
So, regarding the pricing. You should have seen some for 4000 baht. Not sure why not, and it sounds like the pricing.Thank you for your report and the pricing update. Your description of the place and the girls is right on. I had a great time there, but it appears that I was price gauged by an asshole papasan. Here is a comparative price list of Copa Cabana, a sister bordello under the Lord Group.
Service charge.
Code Category Time Service fees.
3 digits Plain 1 hour 30 minutes THB 2100.
V Plain 1 hour 30 minutes THB 2700.
S Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 3200.
RR Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 3700.
Q Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 4200.
M Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 4700.
L Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 5700.
X Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 6700.
XL Side Lines 1 hour 30 minutes THB 7200.
I would expect the Lord to be more expensive than Copa Cabana being that it is the flagship and most upscale of the group. Your M Category girl was 5800 bt which is within my price expectations for the Lord. I, on the other hand was charged 6000 bt for a "RR" category girl so it is obvious by the pricing model above and your experience that I was gouged. Its all my own fault. I suspected as much at the time and I tried to get rid of the asshole papasan. Failing to dump his sorry ass, I should have walked out. Oh well, I can live with the rip off. If time allows I may go back to the Lord with the Copa Cabana price list in my pocket and demand to see a price list if I am again confronted with hyper corrupt pricing. It will be interesting to see what happens. It is hard to believe that the Lord Management would consciously allow customers to be treated as I was in their flagship bordello. The papasan in question should be fired or at the very least severely reprimanded.
So I'm going to The Lord finally. I want to see what's up with this place. When I get there I see a Rotunda with gorgeous women sitting in the middle. I think they even have a live pianist there too. The Mamasan asks me if it's my first time and I say yes, she shows me a price list with girls between 4-10 k baht, by model category. There were 20 women, and they were all gorgeous, maybe a few who could somehow pass for kind of hot but that may have been because they were sitting next to stunners. No plain / homely looking girls like at the other soapies. I picked one who must have been close to 5'10-5'11 and was just a real stunner overall, pretty intense compared to what I get at the other soapies. As others have reported, the service is great. BBBJ in tub, on bed, multiple positions, lots of enthusiasm, you get the entire 1:30, not sure about multiple pops though. She was an "M" category and cost 5800 baht. There were other girls who cost in the 4000 baht range as well. The mamasan handed me a business-card sized piece of paper with prices for each of the model categories.
Oh one last thing, the girls seemed to be pretty pleasant and eager to be picked, unlike at some other soapies where they seem worn out. These girls were mostly all leaning in and making direct eye contact while I was choosing. Nice to see they are very service oriented and they aren't shunning a majority of their customers like is really common at other soapies, where only about 20-40% seem to be interested in working.That's funny. Yes I would say none of the girls were average looking. Yet when I went to The Lord, and there were 15+ girls, I only really liked one or two at all. The rest were too artificial looking for my taste. The best couple appeared to have been chosen already. I certainly did not feel that all were desirable. I guess my taste is different.
Today in Tesco-Lotus I saw a tall Isaan girl close to 170, quite dark skin. Very beautiful face with slightly up-turned nose of perfection. Nice full ass in tight bicycle shorts or whatever they are called. Strong legs but not too thick. Almost Slim overall but not too skinny in any way. If she was available, I would not be able to pass her up. Very hard to drag my eyes away from her. Saw 3 or 4 other really good looking girls in same supermarket, not quite stunning, but none had a really fake look. Rather natural cuties with a little make up. I struggle to find girls this good looking in any MP. I have left La Belle plenty of times without picking a girl, Nataree a few times, and The Lord, twice now without picking a girl. If a girl was really stunning for me, I would not mind a high price. However I seem to struggle to find them. I will try the Lord again, however I think the girls possibly try to look too sophisticated like a western girl (which does not really work for me) and the Opps spoil the looks. There is little doubt each place will have a few stunners, if you actually get lucky to be there at the right time and find them available, which is not easy. Same goes for Amsterdam which was my favourite Soapy. It's a bit closer and a bit less pricey so a bit more convenient to go look in.
On other hand, I know a very cheap cutie that is almost bound to be available nearly all the time, merely because girls at her shop are expected to have big tits. So I can have her 3 times for each stunner in a high end soapy. So the soapy girl really needs to be super special to get me in.
I am pretty sure I like a more exotic look rather than sophisticated look. e.g. Interpreter Miss Missandei in Game of Thrones. Sweet but hot. Miranda would also do just fine. I guess my tall Isaan girl spotted today reminded me of Missandei. Obviously I exaggerate a little. She could not be quite that stunning. I was too shy to brazenly take her picture.
Explorer8939
10-10-15, 23:12
Yes, the tequila they have at the bars is just atrocious. My lady and her friends do the bottle service at Ibar and like making each other do shots of the stuff. I had a few shots one night and woke up with the worst hangover of the trip! Even Jose Cuervo would be a step up from the swill they serve.My impression is that the lady shots of tequila are not the same as the stuff they give you. Of course, the stuff they give you is not very good, but it would seem either that the lady shots are mostly water, or they have a high tolerance for alcohol.
My impression is that the lady shots of tequila are not the same as the stuff they give you. Of course, the stuff they give you is not very good, but it would seem either that the lady shots are mostly water, or they have a high tolerance for alcohol.In my favourite bars, the lady Tequilas and customer tequilas are the same but lady glass maybe less full. It varies from bar to bar. Dollhouse has different tequilas for customers. In Crazy House the girls are (can be) getting quite drunk on a combination of Tequilas and "Yaa Dong". The later is served outside the front of the shop.
Tequila is not my favourite drink, by any means, and I rarely partake. So if you don't like their tequila, drink something else. I need Tequilas that work properly for girls as a leg-opener. Some girls are a bit too shy before 2 or 3 tequilas loosen them up, and put them in a less controlled mood. At Crazy House the Tequilas work okay With the girls. Need to avoid girls that have had too many though. Some girls don't need any. Varies.
My impression is that the lady shots of tequila are not the same as the stuff they give you. Of course, the stuff they give you is not very good, but it would seem either that the lady shots are mostly water, or they have a high tolerance for alcohol.On my last trip my wingman bought a round of tequila shots, two for us and two for the girls and the waitress brought them all out on one tray and left the tray without trying to give the girls a certain shot glass.
Francesco24
10-12-15, 13:13
Today I have been for the first time to a massage parlor (Meree in Petchburi road, near Ekkamai intersection). I arrived there about 5 pm and was quoted those prices: 2100/2400/3000. Maybe was too early in the afternoon but the choice was quite bad, there were about 30 girls available and I picked a 2100 one (number 66) as there was almost no difference in looks with the other girls.
As said, her looks were decent from afar but a 5 at most up close (both in face and body). Service on the other hand was acceptable, comparable to what you may get in some oily massage in Soi 24/1 or so (actually better than average BBBJ but no CIM).
Also looks like it's mandatory to order and pay for drinks along with tipping the waitress and the guy at the car park on the way out. (as I am against the Tipping concept altogether I didn't like it much).
In the end facing the traffic is not worth it for me even if I live quite close. If like today the choice is poor I don't feel like spending one more hour driving to go somewhere else.
Will be coming to Bangkok in a couple days and I was looking for some recommendations. I have read some reports on the board and a lot of them seem conflicting. I am looking for pretty girls with large chests (natural or not). Does not need to be FS if girl is a looker.
I have read a lot about Mitu. Has anyone been recently? Do the girls there fit my requirements?
Today I have been for the first time to a massage parlor (Meree in Petchburi road, near Ekkamai intersection). I arrived there about 5 pm and was quoted those prices: 2100/2400/3000. Maybe was too early in the afternoon but the choice was quite bad, there were about 30 girls available and I picked a 2100 one (number 66) as there was almost no difference in looks with the other girls.
As said, her looks were decent from afar but a 5 at most up close (both in face and body). Service on the other hand was acceptable, comparable to what you may get in some oily massage in Soi 24/1 or so (actually better than average BBBJ but no CIM).
Also looks like it's mandatory to order and pay for drinks along with tipping the waitress and the guy at the car park on the way out. (as I am against the Tipping concept altogether I didn't like it much).
In the end facing the traffic is not worth it for me even if I live quite close. If like today the choice is poor I don't feel like spending one more hour driving to go somewhere else.Possibly a bit early for best selection. 18.30 might be closer to optimal. I managed to find an OK. looking girl on my visit to Evita or Meree I forget which, too long ago. However certainly no stunners in a lower class place.
Difficult to see their figures when sitting and clothes on. Traffic is difficult. I would not drive there myself.
Drinks waitresses possibly do not get paid so live off tips. Bangkok Cosy used to OK long ago but closed. Better you go to Ratchada soapies I reckon. Try Nataree or Copa Cabana or more up market Amsterdam. Can use MRT to get to vicinity.
Ralph Kramden
10-13-15, 14:30
Today I have been for the first time to a massage parlor (Meree in Petchburi road, near Ekkamai intersection). I arrived there about 5 pm and was quoted those prices: 2100/2400/3000. Maybe was too early in the afternoon but the choice was quite bad, there were about 30 girls available and I picked a 2100 one (number 66) as there was almost no difference in looks with the other girls.
As said, her looks were decent from afar but a 5 at most up close (both in face and body). Service on the other hand was acceptable, comparable to what you may get in some oily massage in Soi 24/1 or so (actually better than average BBBJ but no CIM).
Also looks like it's mandatory to order and pay for drinks along with tipping the waitress and the guy at the car park on the way out. (as I am against the Tipping concept altogether I didn't like it much).
In the end facing the traffic is not worth it for me even if I live quite close. If like today the choice is poor I don't feel like spending one more hour driving to go somewhere else.That area of town hosts a few other "end of the line" MPs. The names escape me because it has been years since I have gone to one. You will get a lot better looking provider for the same price range on Ratchada Rd.
Can Cam had a good line up today of maybe 15 girls in the early evening. Soi 24/1. Choice difficult as 3 or 4 were good enough for my taste. Several girls had nose jobs but not as a high a percentage as Addict. Some nose jobs were acceptable and some not.
I took Lay (HA HA) due to her cute face. She was a nice fun firl. Not the tighest pussy but a nice soft feel. She got carried away with the DATY, so very wet. Can take cock well and not scared.
My 4th girl at this shop and was good GFE for me. No pornstar. I now have a success rate if 3 out of 4 at this shop.
That area of town hosts a few other "end of the line" MPs. The names escape me because it has been years since I have gone to one. You will get a lot better looking provider for the same price range on Ratchada Rd.Avita (aka Evita) is across the street from Meree. I used to frequent these places quite a bit, but not in the last five years. Back then they had happy hour specials (maybe still do) that back then brought the rate down to around 1300 baht for girls in the fishbowl, and around 1600-1800 for those outside. And the quality wasn't bad at all, at least looking at the better girls there.
But the rates clearly are higher now, although I suspect that assuming they still have happy hour during the afternoon the prices are probably less then than those quoted by Francisco. And perhaps the quality is not as good these days given this seems to be a general trend throughout Bangkok likely reflecting changes in the economy, the law of supply and demand and perhaps the availability of other non-commissionable options for the girls such as the use of social media to find clients.
Long-time lurker needs advice. I have four nights in Bangkok in a few weeks and want to make the most of it. What I'm looking for comes from my first visit to BKK earlier this year, when I visited Tulip. She told me her name was Bia- sorta thick cutie. Offered BBBJ, A-level service, multiple pops. When we were showering after, I kissed her and said something stupid in her ear. She told me "Love make me horny" and went down on her knees one more time. For my first time it was pretty amazing, and my only fear is I'll be chasing that elusive first high.
So here's where I'm at- definitely planning a return trip to Tulip, but I also want to try some new oilies. A few places in mind- Addict, Mango, Candy, Snow White all sound pretty good from what I've seen here. I know I can't expect every time to be perfect, but what I'm looking for is (I think) simple- BJ, DATY, multiple pops. A-level is nice and I'd like to kiss her. My question: I understand A+ varies by lady, but can I expect the others as standards at the oilies? Are there specific places I'm sure to find what I'm looking for? Oh, and if I could find a squirter I'd probably die of happiness.
What I don't want is to end up at a one-pop shop with a lady who won't let me kiss the kitty. Had that experience at a soapy in Chiang Mai later in the trip and was entirely underwhelmed. Too little time for that.
Hi there,
Was in Bangkok a couple of days ago for a short layover.
Wanted to have a session with Ja from Bamboo, however when I called I got the information that she will be not work for one month or so.
Of course, the Mamasan tried to "marketing" her other girls, well, I thought at least give it a try. ! When I arrived, around 5 girls where around, the only one who caught my attention was Ice.
I told the Mamasan clearly that I want have good service and no drama, as only one shot seems to be included we agreed that I will leave a tip if things work out well (also includes additional shots).
So we went up to the room, quick shower and started with massage, Ice is a nice girl, well, not bad looking but I always impressed what is possible with photoshop after I checked her pics on the website!
As character counts as well, so all in all the right choice. During the massage Ice recognized that I like to get touched on my anus, so she paid special attention in that area, which resulted that the first round.
Ended up with an amazing hand job, I am kneeing on the bed, she behind me, one finger in my anus, the other hand rubbing my dick, it was remarkable.
Shower another massage session, again she played with my anus, gave me a nice rimming session, not shy at all, then she switched to oral, again one finger in my anus. She finished with me nicely whilst I came in her mouth.
She took it all, no hurry. After that, we had a shower together.
I total I spend 50 min in the room, felt very released and pleased afterwards. Gave her 500 tip and did not regret at all. For a short release exactly what I was looking for. Be nice to her.
BTW, suggest you to use the Lotus Massage instead of Oil (much more convenient).
Cheers,
Elmer
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Just leaving from a 2 hour session with Benz at Snow White. Only my 2nd time at Snow White and both experiences were good. Benz is 34, 165 cm tall and 50 kg (2 of which she claims are in her tits). She's got pretty good body. Slim enough, very good boob job. Big but not outrageous for her frame, nice ass but more flat than I like. Pretty enough face as well with minimal makeup.
She definitely comes under the perfect GFE category. She was friendly, smiling, laughing, talkative (mostly in Thai) and gave me everything that I wanted. She started with an oily slippery slide up and down my body taking advantage of her tits. "This will make you horny", she said. Right, she was. Then she moved down for a really good deepthroat blowjob. Right to the bone.
That went one for 10 minutes until I asked for 69 and played with her pussy and ass. She took my finger up her ass without complaint or comment. I did not fuck her ass this session but pretty sure it was available. After 69, I ate her out and see guided me on where to put my tongue and fingers. She did not let me stop until she came. Interesting that her pleasure became paramount while I'm the customer but that was part of the GFE and I was quite into it.
We eventually got around to fucking almost 1 hour into the session. No way we were going to use the 3 condoms she put on the bed at that pace. Vigorous missionary and soft cowgirl in the exact position I like. I came twice from her cowgirl fucking. Second fuck was very quick. Just kissing and rubbing to get me hard and then she mounted me and fucked me like I showed her the first time.
2 hours up. Shower, exchange LINE contacts and off I go. I will certainly repeat.
Nana at Mango.
It has been a while to go to Mango.
Some girls are gone and some girls are new.
I picked Nana who is new girl just worked 3 days.
She said she worked at Taniya (The Japanese Karaoke Town at silom) for 13 years.
So she is very good at Japanese.
Her English was so so not bad.
Her face is OK. Not ugly.
She got 1 kid. But her body was not bad.
Boobs were A cup not that shaggy.
She got slim firm body.
We had shower together. Nothing unusual.
Then came to the bed and started game.
She was good at BJ. Of course BBBJ and DT.
I could feel her throat. It was nice.
She is new so she did not know how to Body to Body.
It was OK to me. I am not keen on Body to Body.
I asked rim job. She did well. And I asked her to suck my toes and feet. She did well too.
It really turned me on.
After oral skills, we had main game.
Started cow girl and ended at missionary.
It was good.
After short washing mine, massage time.
Honestly, she was not that good at massage.
But we don't go to oily because of massage, right?
Then BJ and cat bath again.
This time I asked her CIM.
Accidentally she swallowed some.
But she did not care much.
I asked she was OK. She said it was OK.
And to my surprise she said she can eat all.
Wow.
And she said she can do anal.
But she said it depends on size.
Haha.
This time I did not try anal. I am not keen on anal either.
Totally, she was OK and funny.
Her skills was good. Especially sucking toes. I like that.
I did run into this girl (woman 30+) at the small shopping center at All Season Place, Thannon Withayou. I was killing time waiting for my mate who work there, and sitting at coffee-house on first floor. She sat down on the table next to me, asked me something, I answered. She was chatty and spoke good English. She was dressed in office-suit, skirt, blouse, jacket and high heeled shoes. She asked me more naughty questions, like if I liked Thai girls, what I did do here, etc. I was thinking quick, and said I was here looking for a horny office girl, who wanted some fun in here lunch break, and said I know you are. She blushed, and said yes, a little.
I said, OK, lets have some good time, now, if you are up to it. Now, where? I grabbed here hand, and said I know where.
Took here up to the pool-area at Conrad Hotel, in to the wardrobe, and in to one of the toilet. Asked here to take her jacket and blouse of, sat her down on the toilet-seat. Took off her bra. And unzipped my pants, took my hard cock out and she leaned forward and stated sucking it. I played with her big boobs, real.
After a 5 minute of sucking, I pulled it out of her mouth and come on her tits.
She said she loved my cock and wanted, but had to go back to office. She dressed, with my sperm on the tits. We went out and she said, I want to meet you tonight. Meet me by the rear entrance 7 o'clock.
Yes off-course.
I went back to my room, cleaned up my mess, papered some Candelas, stocked up on sparkling wine, and some big carrots. And massage oil, condoms KY and power-pills. Went to the local beauty saloon and got groomed including a waxing.
In jeans with buttons, no underwear and a shirt I went to meet her. She wasn't there, I waited 30 min, decided to go, and the she showed up in a Taxi, asked me to jump in. We can't go my place, but yours?
Yes off-course, and gave addresses for my hotel.
When we walked in the lobby I could see that she had changed clothes, she dressed office-style, but the skirt was short, no blouse under the jacket and very high heeled shoes, in the elevator I hold around her and told er that I loved her outfit and she was hot and sexy, that she made me horny and I wanted her.
In the room she asked to use the bathroom, and I open the champagne, lit the candlelight, put on a erotic move on the TV and music. And turned the light down.
When she come out of the bathroom she looked happily surprised, I gave her the glass.'
Then "pushed"her down on the sofa, and sat down in front of her, one hand on each knee and pushed her skirt up and opened her legs, no panties!
I licked her pussy before I stood up and she opened my pants and my hard cock jumped out. She started sucking, kissing and licking it.
After some time I asked her to stand up and sit on knee on the sofa, I pulled her skirt off and stated fucking her pussy.
We had a great evening.
She is 35 years, have a good job and just want to have some good time with no complications. And I as an gentleman will provide that.
Visited Candy Massage this week and booked Lady C_ in advance. Communications were efficient as Candy was quick to reply and set things up. C_ currently works part-time at the shop and is not currently pictured on the candy-massage.com website although I remembered her from a month or two ago. Candy said she was 40 kg but I would say the 40's kg is more like it. 26 yo C_ said she she works less because she is employed full time at an english pub in the area.
I would describe the action in the room was a strong GFE. Not sure if she was flattered that I booked her in advance or maybe she is having less sex or maybe just chemistry but we made out like teenagers with extended and passionate DKF action. C_ was a little inexperienced in certain area's but was certainly open to my direction. All my PSE shop expectations were covered (did not go for A+) and two pops later I am pretty sure we were both happy happy at the end.
I would say the facilities at Candy Massage are standard for the category, and Candy and the ladies provided a friendly environment. Definately a positive experience and I will likely visit them again this trip.
SL.
Based on Kuratla's report on Benz, I decided to try her out. Made a booking on Monday to fuck her today for 2 hours. I highly recommend that if you don't want to be disappointed, try to make bookings if possible.
From stepping into the shop to the room took no less than 10 minutes. Benz looks a lot like her picture on the Snow White website, except that, according to her, the photos are like a year old and were taken before she got her breast enhancements. As for her boob job, I really can't say much about it. She was the first I ever had with a boob job (that's one of the main reason why I wanted to try her out). I can say they are nicely done. Quite firm, but squishy. A bit like Jello, but still soft enough to be squeezable. As for size, I would say close to the size of a dvd in diameter and about 4 inches from base to nipple when Benz is standing up. When fucking Benz from behind, her breast sags a bit, but in the nice swinging type of way. On her back, Benz know that they tend to work with gravity, so she normally squeezes them together. Overall, her breast are really nice to grab and squeeze, and I think she's quite proud of them.
So anyway, the session.
In the room, Benz asks the standard questions. What do you want to drink, do you smoke. The usual stuff. Told her water and I don't smoke. She goes out and brings back bottled water and an ashtray, before going out to get her kit. When she comes back with her kit, it's game time. One of the things I personally like about MP like Snow White, Mango and Tulip is that their standard uniform is quite revealing and skin tight. I like the way the girls shed them. Anyway, Benz slips out of her uniform. Nice black lacy underwear. The pictures on the website are quite accurate. Benz is slim and with the boob job, she does look a bit top heavy, but in a Barbara Millicent (Barbie) type of way.
We hope in the shower of the scrub down and the shower BBBJ. She really goes deep on the BJ. IMHO, I would say from my limited experience, that she is really good at sucking cock. Didn't blow a load in the shower. After the shower, Benz continued the BBBJ on the bed, with ball licking and some rimming. Tried some 69 action and I really had fun licking her pussy and fingering her ass. After a while she slip a condom on the little guy and rode me CG, before switching to doggy and missionary. Blew my first load in her pussy. After the first shot, I got a lower body oil massage from Benz for about 10 to 15 minutes, while the little guy reloaded. After the massage, we had some more 69 fooling around, and then it was a condom and my cock up her ass. It was a tight ass. Banged her doggy and then I had Benz at the edge of the bed, with her legs up in the air, fucking her ass and shooting a load up there. After the second shot, we talked for a bit and basically took a time out to rest and recuperate. The last shot of the 2 hour session was basically standing doggy and I blew my load again in her ass.
The total cost of the session was 2300 (paid at the counter) and a 300 tip (because I had fun).
Would I repeat? Highly likely.
Based on Kuratla's report on Benz, I decided to try her out. Made a booking on Monday to fuck her today for 2 hours. I highly recommend that if you don't want to be disappointed, try to make bookings if possible.
From stepping into the shop to the room took no less than 10 minutes. Benz looks a lot like her picture on the Snow White website, except that, according to her, the photos are like a year old and were taken before she got her breast enhancements. As for her boob job, I really can't say much about it. She was the first I ever had with a boob job (that's one of the main reason why I wanted to try her out). I can say they are nicely done. Quite firm, but squishy. A bit like Jello, but still soft enough to be squeezable. As for size, I would say close to the size of a dvd in diameter and about 4 inches from base to nipple when Benz is standing up. When fucking Benz from behind, her breast sags a bit, but in the nice swinging type of way. On her back, Benz know that they tend to work with gravity, so she normally squeezes them together. Overall, her breast are really nice to grab and squeeze, and I think she's quite proud of them.
So anyway, the session.
In the room, Benz asks the standard questions. What do you want to drink, do you smoke. The usual stuff. Told her water and I don't smoke. She goes out and brings back bottled water and an ashtray, before going out to get her kit. When she comes back with her kit, it's game time. One of the things I personally like about MP like Snow White, Mango and Tulip is that their standard uniform is quite revealing and skin tight. I like the way the girls shed them. Anyway, Benz slips out of her uniform. Nice black lacy underwear. The pictures on the website are quite accurate. Benz is slim and with the boob job, she does look a bit top heavy, but in a Barbara Millicent (Barbie) type of way.
We hope in the shower of the scrub down and the shower BBBJ. She really goes deep on the BJ. IMHO, I would say from my limited experience, that she is really good at sucking cock. Didn't blow a load in the shower. After the shower, Benz continued the BBBJ on the bed, with ball licking and some rimming. Tried some 69 action and I really had fun licking her pussy and fingering her ass. After a while she slip a condom on the little guy and rode me CG, before switching to doggy and missionary. Blew my first load in her pussy. After the first shot, I got a lower body oil massage from Benz for about 10 to 15 minutes, while the little guy reloaded. After the massage, we had some more 69 fooling around, and then it was a condom and my cock up her ass. It was a tight ass. Banged her doggy and then I had Benz at the edge of the bed, with her legs up in the air, fucking her ass and shooting a load up there. After the second shot, we talked for a bit and basically took a time out to rest and recuperate. The last shot of the 2 hour session was basically standing doggy and I blew my load again in her ass.
The total cost of the session was 2300 (paid at the counter) and a 300 tip (because I had fun).
Would I repeat? Highly likely.Nice report, sir. Benz is indeed highly recommended and repeatable. I get the feeling that since our first session was GFE, she'd pull out all the stops and full on PSE for the next session. However, as luck would have it, the chat app game has picked up for me the over last week and free pussy is always preferrable to paid, regardless of Benz's skills. So have not repeated with her yet but I will when a lull in chat girls comes up.
Snow White has a new girl, just 4 days. Emy frim Khon Kaen. One of the few slim girls. Body wise she can replace June. Similar height and similar body. Slightly more curvy. Acups almost Bcups. Thigh slightly bigger and very nice ass. No baby no sag anywhere. White skin. Face is different to June. Brown hair. Has nose job but did not bother me too much.
Inexperienced but responded very well to my coaching to go slower. Was enjoying her a lot in the shower sliding on each other and tongue kissing.
Her body is definiey superior and pussy nicely padded and can take deep dick. She responded well to DATY and I would describe her as a horny girl if chemistry is good.
Cowgirl first and fuckrd very enthisiastically making a great GFE performance.
A good choice for guys looking for a sweet GFE. Says she has never been fucked in the ass as yet.
June was my regular girl. Emy can be the replacement, not yet skilled like June but good attitude with a guy if you are nice.Finally got around to having a sesh with Emmy a few days ago. While an ok looker, nice, and polite (but a very flat personality, not bubbly at all), I must admit that for me her performance nowhere near met my expectations. Not even in my wheelhouse to tell you the truth. It was more what I would expect from a 1 k Baht Kinnaree session, not a SW booking. She seems to know one move with her BBBJ, same with rimming. No variation whatsoever. I did find her a good DFKer, which was perhaps the only thing that she excelled in. Cowgirl was strained as she struggled a bit to sit on my p*cker, and she just was not so adept at moving. Mish showed very little movement on her part. Same with doggy. I like a gal that bucks back into you and does you while she is on all fours.
After round 1 she announced that she was not good at massage, and fellas she was telling the truth. After about 10 minutes of meh massage I flipped over and she made a feeble attempt to get me hard with her hand. Kept saying, "lap leaw. " Of course most gals in the PSE oilies actually put forth a little effort at this point. Decided to cut my losses and politely got up and got in the shower. Pleasant girl, ok to look at, but I would not even rate her a GFE. PSE? Light years away.
When compared with the raunchy and intense sex loving Benz who will tell you about all the see*cks she had up her ass that day if you ask; Emmy is a 180 degree experience. WIR? No.
Perhaps Syz she is already burned out and just not one to work in this biz.
The search for replacements for my retired regulars continues.
AssLover945
10-24-15, 17:33
Hi Guys,
This is not a field report.
I am looking for a good provider of Karsai massage (Balls Massage). I know you will point me to Rin of Hana Fashion Health Massage. But I would like to have some new fresh and young provider of the same.
Suggestions, pointers and names of particular ladies specializing in this ancient art will Hugely appreciate.
AL.
Try this.
http://www.pattayaprostatemassage.com/index.html
I am looking for a good provider of Karsai massage (Balls Massage). I know you will point me to Rin of Hana Fashion Health Massage. But I would like to have some new fresh and young provider of the same.
Suggestions, pointers and names of particular ladies specializing in this ancient art will Hugely appreciate.
AL.http://www.analisamassage.com/bangkok-massage
http://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/
Check out my recent review of SMB in this thread.
SL.
Is a fun place. Real Nuru- other promise only and don't deliver. #32 is a real fun girl- I can recommend her.
http://nurumassagebangkok.com/index.html
Finally got around to having a sesh with Emmy a few days ago. While an ok looker, nice, and polite (but a very flat personality, not bubbly at all), I must admit that for me her performance nowhere near met my expectations. Not even in my wheelhouse to tell you the truth. It was more what I would expect from a 1 k Baht Kinnaree session, not a SW booking. She seems to know one move with her BBBJ, same with rimming. No variation whatsoever. I did find her a good DFKer, which was perhaps the only thing that she excelled in. Cowgirl was strained as she struggled a bit to sit on my p*cker, and she just was not so adept at moving. Mish showed very little movement on her part. Same with doggy. I like a gal that bucks back into you and does you while she is on all fours.
After round 1 she announced that she was not good at massage, and fellas she was telling the truth. After about 10 minutes of meh massage I flipped over and she made a feeble attempt to get me hard with her hand. Kept saying, "lap leaw. " Of course most gals in the PSE oilies actually put forth a little effort at this point. Decided to cut my losses and politely got up and got in the shower. Pleasant girl, ok to look at, but I would not even rate her a GFE. PSE? Light years away.
When compared with the raunchy and intense sex loving Benz who will tell you about all the see*cks she had up her ass that day if you ask; Emmy is a 180 degree experience. WIR? No.
Perhaps Syz she is already burned out and just not one to work in this biz.
The search for replacements for my retired regulars continues.I did say she was very inexperienced. Obviously not a star for technique. The chemistry was much better with me since I got a good GFE. Raunchy? No not at all.
I should point out that I am more of a doer than a receiver. I like good go with the flow girls who are able to have fun. Doggy was fine for me. I don't probably don't like a girl that bucks back into you. Would put me off my stroke I reckon. I did repeat once.
I did say she was very inexperienced. Obviously not a star for technique. The chemistry was much better with me since I got a good GFE. Raunchy? No not at all.
I should point out that I am more of a doer than a receiver. I like good go with the flow girls who are able to have fun. Doggy was fine for me. I don't probably don't like a girl that bucks back into you. Would put me off my stroke I reckon. I did repeat once.Emmy is a nice looking pleasant gal, but her performance is just not in the PSE class. I would have no issue with a gal like this in a more Japanese oriented shops, out of a FL hangout, or a place like Kinnaree. But I expect more in the performance realm from the shops I frequent.
I guess what puts me off of so many girls in the oilies these days is their lack of skill, creativity, and drive. What do I expect when I go to an oily? I expect a gal who has a pretty sizable bag of tricks so to speak. I expect a gal who can tell what is working what is not and respond in kind. In other words she knows the male anatomy and can monitor and adjust. Sometimes I am a doer and sometime a receiver. Depends on the day. I expect gals to be able to go with either. I expect new tricks when I repeat. I expect a gal who sees round two as a challenge and takes it as a point of pride to make sure I finish again. I expect an engaging attitude. Of course the best gals are the ones who enjoy sex and love holding a man in the palm of their hands. For some reason most of the "old school" girls seemed to have all of the above qualities. I really think that it all came down to training. Gals should not be unleashed on a customer alone until they have spent three or four dual sessions with a seasoned veteran. Having this experience would allow them to figure out if this was the shop or even the biz for them. It really is the responsibility of the owner / manager to see to this. I became a Tulip denizen because "all ladies do everything. " And they did it well. Saeng accepted nothing less and the girls were trained in this process. With the sacrifice we make in looks to go to the PSE shops, poor or even mediocre performance is really not acceptable. Each and every girl should be a skilled enthusiastic performer. It's part of the job.
PerezPerez
10-26-15, 03:38
Thanks Asslover for bringing up this topic. I have been looking myself for someone other than Khun Rin who is equally or better at testicle massage. I have tried Khun Rin several times, and no doubt she is the best so far I found in BKK. It would be really great if any fellow member could recommend any particular person or place who specializes in this.
JackieChino
10-26-15, 10:46
Wanted to share my session before I forget the details.
I called Tulip to make a booking for Opor but I was told that she was not working that day.
Ask the mamasan for similar styled recommendations with A+ and was offered June.
Got to the shop for my one hour session. We went upstairs and the usual "Drink?" and "Do you smoke?
Came back with her kit and time for the shower. She was quite polite and friendly. While her body is not big, it isn't slim either.
Got in the shower and started the usual rubdown with a little more attention paid to my down area, front and back, saying that it was "delicious" the entire time.
For BJ lovers like me, I would warn you that she does that give the best ones! But it did get better. She applied some shower gel to my shaft and started to rub it up and down. She then got up, turned around and rubbed some more shower gel on her ass and gave me the best butt job ever. I came so hard that it reached her neck!
Finished the shower and then got on the bed. As soon as I got on the bed she started caressing my thighs and my balls. I was up again in 5 minutes. She started kissing my balls and slowly raised both my legs to rim my ass. She started thrusting her tongue deep insides my ass. Weirdly, that felt quite pleasurable.
She reached for the condom and instead of her pussy, she just directly lubed her ass. Turned around to face her back to me and sat straight on my penis. She bounced up and down for about 5 minutes and then got tired as she pulled my up with my penis still inside her ass. Instead of doggystyle I pushed her flat on her stomach and started thrusting from behind. Didn't take me very long to cum in her ass.
She told me that she wasnt very good at giving massages and asked me if I wanted one anyway. I obliged. After a little while, she asked if I wanted to go again. My one hour was almost up and I had a dinner meeting so I opted to finish off the session instead.
Pros: Great PSE, A+, rim job and butt job.
Cons: Not the best body, poor BJ.
Went to Dream Heaven 33 again. Provider gave great service, lots of teasing / foreplay, CIM was taken from me but not requested, so pretty enthusiastic / good work ethic. I see that there a lot and the women are pretty hot there. Many of them are dark skinned actually, and in their mid to late twenties so that kind of prevents them from doing well in the soapies where the asian men like them young (looking / acting) and pale. But these women are really hot, lots of busty / hour-glass women there who are young. I'd say 7. 5's - 8/10's in looks there. And the price for FS is as low as 2100 for an hour I think.
Went to emmanuel. A place I kind of swore off from going because of poor experience I had there before and the staff's pressuring for tips. However, I deemed the extra fee's in tips worth it because I did not have the time / energy to go back to sukhumvit, and I did not really want to go the Lord and spend 6 k baht on my second pop for the day. Anyway, onto the report for emmanuel:
There were like 30-40 girls at 9 pm on Monday. Went in, sat down, Papasan was busy so I sat alone for about 5 minutes. I didn't see anything that I immediately liked and felt like leaving and going to the Lord. There were so many 6/10's but I didn't want to just walk out after sitting down so I kept looking. I started to spot some better looking women, maybe 7. 5/10. Hard to tell with the amount of makeup they wear, the odd-lighting, and the distance / angle that they sit on. They also wear so much clothes so it's not like a gogo and it's not like Nataree where you walk around and see them from different sides / angles. I started to notice a few who were good looking. I noticed one who was, I felt, the best looking. Young, average Thai skin tone (not tan), busty, great hour-glass figure, great body all around, large eyes, 8. 5/10. I figured she was probably going to be expensive. Papasan came around and asked me which one I wanted, we talked a bit about the price categories there. Turns out the girl I saw was only 3400 baht (for me that's great because The Lord, although has 9/10's and 10/10's, 3400 for an 8/5/10 is just much better value). While walking to the counter I noticed a real stunner hiding away from the main side liner area, definitely interested in going back to find her. Anyway to the girl I picked: service was great, one of the best and most cheerful / spontaneous workers I've ran into as it seems the others are somewhat-scripted (although it may be a great script). BBBJ offered early on and was really enthusiastic throughout the entire session.
Anyway just an updated on what I feel is worth recommending around Ratchada soapies:
Nataree is still good if you want 8-8. 5's for 2600 baht. The place is visited heavily by many mongers, sometimes by the van load, so get there before 5 PM otherwise it may only be a lot of leftover 7/10's at best. Also the girls here are mostly 18-21, so if you're into that age this is the place. Don't go here if you care about service such as BBBJ as it's like a 40% chance you'll get it and a 10% chance it will be good.
The Lord: The best soapy if you are willing to pay 4 k-6 k baht, but you will get 9. 5/10's. Also service here was great for me, others report excellent top tier service as well.
Emmanuel: I think it's a good place, service is better than Nataree everytime, and the price is almost the same or maybe slightly higher. Girls here are in their mid-twenties. The 3 times I have been, service was pretty good (BBBJ, good enthusiasm, good English). You will be pressured to tip papasan, just give him the 100 baht if you feel pressured and don't want to have to go through saying no. Soapies around here easily differ by hundreds of baht for odd reasons, just add that 100 baht to the overall price, not a big deal.
Colonze 2: 1700 baht and the women are decent looking and service has been great when I went. Lot's of 7/10's but for that price and the service provided, I'd say it's a great deal compared to their competition. Heck I wouldn't even call it competition since no-one else nearby offers that value.
Don't like:
Poseidon: really high price for falang (2700 and 3200) for so many 6/10's.
Cesars: Used to me my fav as they had some Lord level talent at 4200 baht, but they really got hit hard with the talent crunch that is effecting P4 P in Bangkok. It was all 6/10's when I was there the last 2-3 times.
Hello guys.
Traveling to Bangkok on Friday.
Eager to catch ice.
I have checked on candy massage but they told that she don't work there now.
Can anybody help me to find her please.
Hi all,
Been to Coloze 2 as I read it is a great investment. I just had feelings that that most of the models are top shelf post op men. They are all tall, I am not too sure if anyone felt the same or is it just my paranoia talking?
I did choose a short, young, big boobies girl and as I was so horny I did bang her so hard that she struggled to walk straight after the session (felt sorry for her).
I think her number was 43 M, second floor. Not much experience but ensuthiasm to get the job done. I couldn't come (normal for me now).
Cheap compared to Natree, might try it again my next visit if I got over the idea that most are post-op.
Hi All,
Been to Natree on my last visit. I like place, even though it's on the expensive side compared to other places. Lots of selection but the Japanese tourists buses kept bouring guys who cherry picked younger / prettier / more expensive ones (ruining my nights). Japanese mongers I hate you))).
Tried few here. Best was Mai, dark skinned, smart, great conversational skills, educated, and admirable ensuthiasm. Highly recommended. 3200 or 3600 can't remember. Was happy with the service. She has great personality but 29 (doesn't look like it) but I did not mind as I am 35. Definitely would repeat.
Tried 5-6 other ladies none of them stuck to my mind which mean they are main stream.
From fish bowel 43 do a great soapy but no intimacy and down to business sort of gal. She gets the job done though as I don't come easily and experience is a great factor. 2000 (she always wear a black dress open from the sides and has short hair and tall).
All the best.
A. E.
I have never tried a b2 b slide & heard Nataree was recommended. I got there & walked in the door in the middle. There was a lady outside calling to me that the door on the left was same service but cheaper. I didn't notice the door on the right side but will discuss later. When inside, there was a fish bowl of 15 girls or so. Not what I expected. I took a couple of minutes to choose bcuz they were sitting down & I wanted thin with a cut ass. I took a chance with #51, but don't remember her name. I got lucky bcoz she was slim, cute & had a nice smile with nice lips. She had small tits but that didn't matter a lot to me. Cost 2000 B.
She was friendly & could speak a little English. I wasn't crazy about the order in which the service was given but since this was my first, I went with the flow. She did the massage first with the body slide. I wanted some kissing but she was not into that at all. Here I have to say I am 69, not bad looking but I didn't expect a total denial. Normally I can get some kissing with minimal tongue which is fine. Anyway, after the slide, which I do like, I was ready for some action but instead she stood me up & put me in the huge tub. She washed me very well & of course had to take her time bcoz this is a 2 hour session. After this, back to the bed where she started with a BBBJ which was just OK. We finally got into action & again it was OK but nothing to brag about. Cute girl, nice but I've had much better service. Naturally YMMV.
I apparently did not read enough but later discovered the door on the right is where all the very hot girls are & where you can mingle first. I understand it costs more, some don't do the slide & it isn't 2 hours but the quality is definitely higher. Live & learn.
Hello guys.
Traveling to Bangkok on Friday.
Eager to catch ice.
I have checked on candy massage but they told that she don't work there now.
Can anybody help me to find her please.She is now working at Bongkot Massage Soi 22.
She is now working at Bongkot Massage Soi 22.Thanks Bkkmike.
I booked the highly recommended Benz after learning that Addict's Sandy was on vacation. I still want to sample Sandy, but her absence was a godsend to me. Benz was awesome. Attractive, which is pretty important to me, and as hard working as I've ever found a working girl. She also obviously has a sense of humor: She laid out three condoms, asking if that would be enough. I have huge problems just firing the first shot. I would be in the morgue after the third. But the query had an unexpected benefit: I mentioned that we'd be lucky with one because my unit really hates condoms and tends to drop to half-mast in protest. "No problem!" she said, "I will suck!
And she did. For one and a half hours straight. On and on despite my urging that she take a break. The weird thing was that I had one of those mini-cums about half an hour in but she didn't notice and was doing such a good job that the erection lasted, so she worked harder and harder thinking that I hadn't had a happy moment. Good Lord, does she have a repertoire! I would rate the experience in my top five ever, and I'd be hard pressed to think of the other four. I'm so, uh, drained right now that I couldn't care less that the bars are closed tonight.
Ralph Kramden
10-27-15, 14:06
Hi All,
Been to Natree on my last visit. I like place, even though it's on the expensive side compared to other places. Lots of selection but the Japanese tourists buses kept bouring guys who cherry picked younger / prettier / more expensive ones (ruining my nights). Japanese mongers I hate you))).
Tried few here. Best was Mai, dark skinned, smart, great conversational skills, educated, and admirable ensuthiasm. Highly recommended. 3200 or 3600 can't remember. Was happy with the service. She has great personality but 29 (doesn't look like it) but I did not mind as I am 35. Definitely would repeat.
Tried 5-6 other ladies none of them stuck to my mind which mean they are main stream.
From fish bowel 43 do a great soapy but no intimacy and down to business sort of gal. She gets the job done though as I don't come easily and experience is a great factor. 2000 (she always wear a black dress open from the sides and has short hair and tall).
All the best.
A. E.The trick is to find out when the busloads of the yellow plague arrive, and get there a few minutes before that. One could well imagine they are informed about when the time for the best selection of fresh girls is.
I booked the highly recommended Benz after learning that Addict's Sandy was on vacation. I still want to sample Sandy, but her absence was a godsend to me. Benz was awesome. Attractive, which is pretty important to me, and as hard working as I've ever found a working girl. She also obviously has a sense of humor: She laid out three condoms, asking if that would be enough. I have huge problems just firing the first shot. I would be in the morgue after the third. But the query had an unexpected benefit: I mentioned that we'd be lucky with one because my unit really hates condoms and tends to drop to half-mast in protest. "No problem!" she said, "I will suck!
And she did. For one and a half hours straight. On and on despite my urging that she take a break. The weird thing was that I had one of those mini-cums about half an hour in but she didn't notice and was doing such a good job that the erection lasted, so she worked harder and harder thinking that I hadn't had a happy moment. Good Lord, does she have a repertoire! I would rate the experience in my top five ever, and I'd be hard pressed to think of the other four. I'm so, uh, drained right now that I couldn't care less that the bars are closed tonight.Truthfully performance as such is what should be the norm in the PSE shops. It certainly was a few years ago. All girls working performing to a certain standard. Now, it is hit and miss. And most of the times miss.
Agreed! I recall when both the work ethic and looks at oilies were top notch. I have to say, though, that I never felt the effects of a visit the next day. I am stiff, and not in the good way today! And I was on the receiving end! I'm sure my age has nothing to do with this.
IAmRamesh86
10-28-15, 09:02
Let me first Thank BKK dog for guiding me how to hook up Thai girls online, previous visit I had hooked up quite a few all the girls were above avg and working girls but this time I have hooked up with only few hot girls and banged only one till now!! So I decided to try out dream heaven on sou 26 all the girls were pathetic with a terrible attitude so I decided to go to Soi 33 looking for ' am 'she was not Available so took yuki blame my stupid eyes she looked wonderful from far away she had a terrible body, bad breath face is 4/10 I paid 2 k for full service my brain refused to fuck her so I politely declined she was so disappointed then I had to lie to her stating that I have a GF, her massage was pathetic her body was in bad state she is just 4 feet, she gave a pathetic blow job for 15 min and handjob for another 15 min Johnny was not happy today is just a terrible day, I usually don't waste my money this was completely my fault I should have waited for 'am' , 37.2 degree Celsius massage was just a mile away, but the girls have terrible attitude, I think addict massage is the only place where they welcome everyone with a smile I think I'll stick with only addict massage, hooking up online has become very tough, may be its just me I don't know 8 days left in BKK! The issue am facing these days is that my Jonny won't wake up unless and until the girl is 8 and above am very choosy these days I hardly pay money to get fucked!! Thanks BBK dog for all the info God bless brother!
I'm planning to repeat with Ms. Benz, so I must broach that horrifically touchy of subject: Tipping. Without tying up the next three pages, any ideas? This was my first Snow White visit and I'm used to the small fee to the shop, then tip the girl afterwards thing. At Snow White it is (I really hope, or I seriously, um, stiffed Benz) an all-in pay up front thing. So my issue is this: Whether it is what we came to expect years ago or not, her performance was definitely above the current depreciated standard. But if I don't tip, she gets paid exactly the same as some lazy, untrained, borderline starfish. How much does one tip for previously expected service?
Let the vitriol begin!
I'm planning to repeat with Ms. Benz, so I must broach that horrifically touchy of subject: Tipping. Without tying up the next three pages, any ideas? This was my first Snow White visit and I'm used to the small fee to the shop, then tip the girl afterwards thing. At Snow White it is (I really hope, or I seriously, um, stiffed Benz) an all-in pay up front thing. So my issue is this: Whether it is what we came to expect years ago or not, her performance was definitely above the current depreciated standard. But if I don't tip, she gets paid exactly the same as some lazy, untrained, borderline starfish. How much does one tip for previously expected service?
Let the vitriol begin!As your "Let the vitriol begin" statement indicates, you understand different people have different views and some of them, I doubt the majority, are pretty much convinced their view is the correct one. Having said this, I usually give, when service is very good to excellent, between 300 and 500 baht as a tip on top of the 2300 baht standard fee for two hours (800 to the shop, 1500 to the girl). But I'm only one data point and will be interested to see what others do.
It used to be that tipping on top of the 2300 baht was truly optional without any expectation there would be a tip; I suspect this is only partially true these days, but am not sure about this.
That is sort of my thinking. I gave her 500 and feel good about it, largely because even by the standards of the old days, at least those I recall, Benz exceeded expectations. I just wish they did it the other way so that, as should be the case, a poor performer is penalized rather than one who merely meets expectations gets extra.
I'm planning to repeat with Ms. Benz, so I must broach that horrifically touchy of subject: Tipping. Without tying up the next three pages, any ideas? This was my first Snow White visit and I'm used to the small fee to the shop, then tip the girl afterwards thing. At Snow White it is (I really hope, or I seriously, um, stiffed Benz) an all-in pay up front thing. So my issue is this: Whether it is what we came to expect years ago or not, her performance was definitely above the current depreciated standard. But if I don't tip, she gets paid exactly the same as some lazy, untrained, borderline starfish. How much does one tip for previously expected service?
Let the vitriol begin!I have never tipped a Baht in any of the oilies and have been frequenting them for years. I find that the performers always performed well upon repeats. Although I expect good service I never push a gal to do anything she does not want to or is not comfortable doing. If that day she does not want to do A+, I won't even frown. No problem. I am always nice, respectful, and try to keep the mood light and funny. My Thai is plenty good enough to joke around and have fun. And I do my best to create a relaxed and fun environment. All in all I am a pretty easy customer.
Some dudes tip, some don't. I am convinced that it does not get you better service. But, it make some guys feel better. More power to them. It's their jing. Of course if you tip once that will always be expected. Then when you have a subpar session with that gal she might still expect a tip.
I don't pay up front either. Since I have been a regular for 8 plus years I am never asked to pay first in any of the PSE places. Also, I don't ever specify how long a sesh I will book. I am always "leew te. " "It depends. " That way if it is not going well or if I am not so motivated I can do 60 instead of 90 min. I have known all of the owners since their "working" days and will always sit down for a chat when I see them in the shop after my sesh. I guess being a long time regular gets you a bit of slack.
That is sort of my thinking. I gave her 500 and feel good about it, largely because even by the standards of the old days, at least those I recall, Benz exceeded expectations. I just wish they did it the other way so that, as should be the case, a poor performer is penalized rather than one who merely meets expectations gets extra.That is exactly why I don't tip and why I like the fixed price system.
That is sort of my thinking. I gave her 500 and feel good about it, largely because even by the standards of the old days, at least those I recall, Benz exceeded expectations. I just wish they did it the other way so that, as should be the case, a poor performer is penalized rather than one who merely meets expectations gets extra.Just get her a Benz, that'll do.
I'm planning to repeat with Ms. Benz, so I must broach that horrifically touchy of subject: Tipping. Without tying up the next three pages, any ideas? This was my first Snow White visit and I'm used to the small fee to the shop, then tip the girl afterwards thing. At Snow White it is (I really hope, or I seriously, um, stiffed Benz) an all-in pay up front thing. So my issue is this: Whether it is what we came to expect years ago or not, her performance was definitely above the current depreciated standard. But if I don't tip, she gets paid exactly the same as some lazy, untrained, borderline starfish. How much does one tip for previously expected service?
Let the vitriol begin!Normally I plan to tip 200 baht as standard, up to 500 baht if the service is exceptional, and zero if it is not so good. But it is hard to back peddle on the tip amount when you repeat as you have already set the bar with that particular lady. Any less for the same level of service and IMO you both lose face.
SL.
Traveler1234
10-28-15, 16:39
I'm planning to repeat with Ms. Benz, so I must broach that horrifically touchy of subject: Tipping.
Let the vitriol begin!This has been tossed up / down for years and you're going to get opinions from both ends of the spectrum. Some tip generously, others say it ruins the market. There is no correct answer.
Personally I tip when the service is 'exceptional'. YMMV.
This has been tossed up / down for years and you're going to get opinions from both ends of the spectrum. Some tip generously, others say it ruins the market. There is no correct answer.
Personally I tip when the service is 'exceptional'. YMMV.I don't think tipping at oilies ruins the market. Since there is really a fixed price it is quite different from overpaying at a GoGo. Personally I never tip; some guys do. The service is really the same. Tipping is not what has led to the decrease in service at the oilies. IMHO, the decrease in service has been due to competition for lookers from the scads of oilies that have opened. For the PSE shops to retain even decent looking gals these days they have had to lessen the demands on the gals. The gals know they can go to other more Japanese and Korean oriented shops and get away with providing less. However, now with fewer customers I am seeing more and more shops trying to provide better service. Funny, the gals like Benz from SW and Sandy from Addict are getting 4 customers per day. Many of the cuter gals who are not providing good service actually get less business. Sandy once told me she has tried to coach the gals, but they don't listen to her and then resent her when she is busy. Par for the course in Thailand.
I definitely agree about the "tip once and you are expected to tip again" bit. My visits are infrequent enough that it's not a big problem for me, but I can certainly see it as a problem for the expats.
I wonder when Sandy is coming back. She was way the heck up on my short list: My first call was to Addict. All I got was that she had gone home, or something like that. No return estimate. I'm passing back through in a week and will try again.
I don't think tipping at oilies ruins the market. Since there is really a fixed price it is quite different from overpaying at a GoGo. Personally I never tip; some guys do. The service is really the same.Thailand.I always tip mderately and generously if the service is good. I recognise that many of the girls often get a small or miniscule percentge of what I pay the house. I recognise that many girls support families and children (ignoring grand parents funerals, sick aunts and even sicker buffaloes). In my view it is just mean not to give 200 - 500 Baht to the lady as you go back to your hotel and look at your $1000 air ticket and your $75 a night hotel bills before you fly down to Phuket.
I always tip mderately and generously if the service is good. I recognise that many of the girls often get a small or miniscule percentge of what I pay the house. I recognise that many girls support families and children (ignoring grand parents funerals, sick aunts and even sicker buffaloes). In my view it is just mean not to give 200 - 500 Baht to the lady as you go back to your hotel and look at your $1000 air ticket and your $75 a night hotel bills before you fly down to Phuket.Oily gals get 1500 Baht per session plus a bit of the oily fee (at some places). Min wage in Thailand is 300 Baht per day. Gals who are moderate lookers and provide good service like Benz average at least 3 sessions per day. The day I had Benz, I was her 5th. If she averages 3 a day, that is 4500 Baht (not including any oily fee she might receive). She takes one day off a week. That's 121,000 Baht per month. That's more than most International School Teachers and more than the majority of expats I know. In fact, that is over 40 K USD per year. That would be a decent salary in the US when you consider she is paying no taxes on it. It is a fortune in Thailand. Do a little research on the average wage. Most MBAs in this country don't make near 121 k Baht per month.
It is her choice what she spends her money on. Do you apply the same standards to gals in your home country (grand parents funeral, sick aunts, etc)? Do you accept the same lines from them? I often wonder why guys throw their standards out the window when they come to Thailand. Many turn into Rescue Ranger and start feeling sorry for the girls. They have made a choice to work in the P4 P industry. Yes, it is a choice. I know quite a few single mothers who have not made that choice. They have worked their way through university, some through Masters degrees, and have taken a different path. I also know gals in the biz and not in the biz who have refused to dole out their hard earned money to parasitic families. This too is a choice. So no, I don't feel sorry for sex workers.
I live here, and have for 16 years, so air tickets and hotels have no bearing on me. What I do look at and what does have a bearing on me is the local economy and 1500 Baht for an hour or two is very good money in Thailand.
I wonder when Sandy is coming back. She was way the heck up on my short list: My first call was to Addict. All I got was that she had gone home, or something like that. No return estimate. I'm passing back through in a week and will try again.Sandy has an interesting work schedule. She works every day for about two to three months (seeing about 4 customers a day mind you) and then heads home to Chiang Mai (I believe) for three weeks to a month. Addict allows her to do what she wants as she is such an amazing earner for them.
Thanks Bkkmike.I also like to see her in 2 weeks. Is she the Liza from Bongkot?
Thanks
Sandy is a fun girl to be with. Very accommodating. Curvy and got a little pot belly though. There used to be a girl by the name of Mai there. Little firecracker, bang bang!
Just come back from Nana Plaza and all Rainbow bars are closed. Checked out 4, 1, 2 & 3 - all shut down.
I also like to see her in 2 weeks. Is she the Liza from Bongkot?
ThanksYes!
She is the same.
Changed her name on website yesterday only.
Oily gals get 1500 Baht per session plus a bit of the oily fee (at some places). Which places? Very few I will bet. Most places, the girl gets zero from the massage fee, and actually has to pay room fees and soap and oils fees. Most girls are making less than 1500 per session, and that includes the all inclusive price places. Annies girls are making significantly less than 1500. More like 1 K. Shops where girls gets half or less of an all inclusive fee are not rare.
In a blowjob shop, the girl might get 400 out of the 800 fee. I forget the various fees at various shops, as I don't actually normally go for just a BJ. She probably won't be motivated to put in an exceptional effort for 400 or 500.
Which places? Very few I will bet. Most places, the girl gets zero from the massage fee, and actually has to pay room fees and soap and oils fees. Most girls are making less than 1500 per session, and that includes the all inclusive price places. Annies girls are making significantly less than 1500. More like 1 K. Shops where girls gets half or less of an all inclusive fee are not rare.
In a blowjob shop, the girl might get 400 out of the 800 fee. I forget the various fees at various shops, as I don't actually normally go for just a BJ. She probably won't be motivated to put in an exceptional effort for 400 or 500.In the PSE places gals get 1500 per session. At some they at least used to get some of the fee. I don't know if that has changed. That being said 1500 baht for an hour's work is an amazing wage in Thailand. It's 5 times the daily wage in an hour. If a gal is a good performer and gets a good rep for it she will be busy with multiple sessions per day. Not so difficult to make close to or over 100 k a month. That's still very big money in this country.
In the PSE places gals get 1500 per session. At some they at least used to get some of the fee. I don't know if that has changed. That being said 1500 baht for an hour's work is an amazing wage in Thailand. It's 5 times the daily wage in an hour. If a gal is a good performer and gets a good rep for it she will be busy with multiple sessions per day. Not so difficult to make close to or over 100 k a month. That's still very big money in this country.Sorry but IMO the ratios are not amazingly of bounds for sex work. In the USA minimum wage is $7. 25 per hour or $60 per day. Better escorts charge $300 per hour or 5 times the daily wage. Same same actually.
SL.
In the PSE places gals get 1500 per session. At some they at least used to get some of the fee. I don't know if that has changed. That being said 1500 baht for an hour's work is an amazing wage in Thailand. It's 5 times the daily wage in an hour. If a gal is a good performer and gets a good rep for it she will be busy with multiple sessions per day. Not so difficult to make close to or over 100 k a month. That's still very big money in this country.Benz my be able to make 100 K per month but she would be an exception. The best girls make a lot. The ordinary girls do not.
Benz my be able to make 100 K per month but she would be an exception. The best girls make a lot. The ordinary girls do not.W / o some facts. I cannot believe the assertion that the girl gets Baht 1500/ massage unless she pays a high premium to the MP's boss to work there. We should in this case look at net income after expenses.
My own limited information is that the boss takes a large percentage of the advertised fee paid by the punter and in many cases demands a percetage of any tip.
But we need facts over a wide range of MPs, not broad sweeping generalisations.
Benz my be able to make 100 K per month but she would be an exception. The best girls make a lot. The ordinary girls do not.And Syz, it is really up to the girl whether she is "ordinary" or not. There are lots of gals who are not great lookers but perform well and stay very busy and make good money. Benz is not stunning and has had a kid, but oh what skills. Ying at Tulip another example. Now, a looker who performs can take it to a whole other level, but there are fewer of those as dudes tend to let them get away with poor service.
W / o some facts. I cannot believe the assertion that the girl gets Baht 1500/ massage unless she pays a high premium to the MP's boss to work there. We should in this case look at net income after expenses.
My own limited information is that the boss takes a large percentage of the advertised fee paid by the punter and in many cases demands a percetage of any tip.
But we need facts over a wide range of MPs, not broad sweeping generalisations.Many still pay the 1500 to the gal in the room when at one of the PSE joints. So yes, they get 1500 Baht at least at Tulip, SW, Mango, etc. As far as the other shops are concerned, I don't know.
It doesn't seem all that difficult to believe a girl working in a MP gets the lion's share of the take. After all, the MP needs service providers more than the service providers need the MP. Sure, it is convenient and more comfortable for a service provider to hang out in such a place waiting for customers to show up. But the reality is the ultimate service her customers go there for is quite portable, would work pretty much the same in any hotel room, apartment, condo or short time room that has a shower and a bed. And in this day and age of Craig's List, dating sites, hook up apps, not to mention the usual age old locations like the nearest bar, restaurant or how about the sidewalk in a high traffic area, a moderately attractive girl who can and does deliver the goods when called upon would do just fine while a Massage Parlor without any girls worth a damn at either performing an actual massage or a happy ending that anyone would be happy to receive and pay for wouldn't last a week.
LoveHole69
10-31-15, 13:07
I had just arrived in Bangkok a few days ago after an overnight bus trip and was feeling pretty tired from having disturbed sleep, so my plan was to pick up a girl around sukhumwit and try and tire myself out walking and drinking beer so I could get reset and have a good night sleep, after walking around for hours since the afternoon it was 10 pm so decided I needed a shower and it was a long way back to my hotel so then I decided better to just go into mango after reading good reports on here.
So I went inside around 10 and all the girls looked pretty ugly except one biggish lady with a reasonable face, after choosing her I thought she looked kinda like yok from tulip before but not slim enough and not dark enough, however to my shock after getting in the room I discovered this was yok after all and her face was just white from some powder, then like reports stated on here she is totally out of shape, the tits were fine for me but the rest was so fat I almost thought I might not be able to continue, but by this stage I was stripped for a shower and badly needing one, so in I went and then to my shock she only cleaned my cock for a few seconds then motioned me to get out the shower which means I was still smelly and covered in oil which I found very surprising. Next laying on the bed some body slide followed by some rimming which I would of enjoyed but was rather spoiled by me not even having showered then I turned around for a lot of rubbing by which stage I had got hard I'm sure I could of just popped it inside quite easily but decided to motion for a condon which then was again a bad idea since it was far to small and spoiled my mood even more, it was squeezing my cock to tight which meant I had reduced feeling. After about 10 minutes of being ridden reverse cowgirl I decided altho her puss wasnt to bad I might as well do her back hole since the condom was making me get bored fast, so I turned her around and stared tying the hole up which I was surprised to find was tight and she said put it in slow, I managed to get in there quite easily but she seemed to take a while until I could get totally in with my long 22 cm sicilian schlong and at times it seemed as tho it was to long for her but after about 20 minutes she turned sideways to lift her legs so I could pound it totally inside which I did for about an hour then came, after that it was rinse my cock only in the shower then started sucking again but it was late and I couldn't be bothered with the small Durex comfort condoms she was using so I thought I might not keep hard with it for a 2nd pop.
Al tho I could of done a CIM I was kind of out the mood since the start so decided just to go early after just over an hour instead of using my full 2 hours which I had intended.
So to sum up was a rather bad session but was mainly due to the condoms and other things so if people don't mind a big stomach problem I could recommend the service as being willing and very dirty but otherwise like me next time I would need to be careful to choose a skinny provider.
Wolvenvacht
10-31-15, 17:31
My last (free) day in Bangkok and as I passed by soi 26 during my walking, I decided to go and see what this massage parlour was all about.
From the list offered, I choose the "2 hour nuru massage" for 1200 baht. Of course that is totally irrelevant because the next question is "You want special"?
I confirmed my desire to experience the "special" and paid the 1500 baht surcharge on top of the "massage fee". The receptionist called one girl forward, but I wanted to choose myself and was allowed to look at the other girls as well.
Just for fun and laughter, I asked them who could do a good massage. All raised their hands but upon my next question who was best, they all pointed to the girl already suggested by the receptionist. Speaking of massage-girl solidarity here!
So up I went with "Pooky". I undressed and she called me "pumpui" (which is absolutely true) and she explained she did not like skinny guys and rather have a "pumpui" client.
Well darling, whatever floats your boat is OK for me.
She undressed as well and nice size "A" breasts were shown with sensitive nipples. A clean shaven pussy was also on the menu. We both showered and she was rather surprised I took some shower gel and started to wash her. A lot of hugging and touching already happened in the shower. DFK was no problem either.
Back on the bed, more hugging, kissing and some sucking of my "little brother". Then I continued to suck her nipples and touching her pussy and clit. To my surprise she was already quite wet and when I went down on her she really forgot all about me and started moaning and getting wetter and wetter. A condom was produced and I fucked her in mish, no lube necessary at all.
After I came, I continued playing with her pussy and with some more licking her clit managed to get her to finish too.
She was quite surprised herself. Obviously, few if any clients perform oral sex on her. A real pity, as her pussy is very clean and tasty and gets wet easy.
To thank me she actually gave me some rather good Thai style leg and feet massage until "little brother" woke up again and a second round was due. Now she did not want me to lick her as she would become too tired after a second "finish". Yet, when touching her pussy, I could feel she was dripping wet and she confirmed that sucking her tits always makes her very horny.
Some doggy style and more mish, followed by some oral sex on me and finally she made me come with an oily hand job.
Almost two hours of fun and games and 2700 baht well spent.
Her bubbly character and good interaction warranted a tip, which she accepted with a big smile and more DFK.
Now I have one remaining question: what would happen if a client does NOT choose the "special option" and insists on a proper nuru (or any other kind of) massage?
W / o some facts. I cannot believe the assertion that the girl gets Baht 1500/ massage unless she pays a high premium to the MP's boss to work there. We should in this case look at net income after expenses.
My own limited information is that the boss takes a large percentage of the advertised fee paid by the punter and in many cases demands a percetage of any tip.
But we need facts over a wide range of MPs, not broad sweeping generalisations.We were just having a light hearted discussion / argument? What facts? We get a lot of info from what girls tell us. These are hardly facts. So I am more than happy with broad sweeping generalisations. This is no court of law.
I was taking her expenses charged by the shop into account. PSE shops may charge girls expenses. I have heard this from a number of girls over the years. I can't quote right now who they all were and which shops. That is why I say, I believe many girls make less than 1500 unless they get extra tips from the punter. For shops with all inclusive, her share is generally less than 1500, 1400 or less was common, in my experience of getting unreliable information from girls. Many girls are surprisingly honest though. Not every working girl is lying all the time without good reasons. The girls may well be more honest than the customers.
If the discussion is pointless, not need for you to get involved in it. Just ignore us. There are plenty of pointless discussions. However I like to make the point that most Oily girls are not making big money. Some bar girls are doing much better from less ST fucks per night, but again its a minority. Even some good looking girls in bars are struggling to make the rent.
I don't understand why, but many working girls don't seem to want to make the effort to be a really good fun time, and get popular and make big money. They don't even understand why some other girls are very popular. They maybe weak brained or don't really care about the money. Yet other girls have become very popular. Something they are doing is working.
At Crazy House, Ging could be making very big money, yet I don't actually know if she is. She may be squandering her chances. She has a cute schoolgirl look, big natural tits that gets guys in, and then is a very good fun responsive and passionate fuck on the bed. She could make a fortune by doing 3 to 4 ST bookings per night. I don't believe she actually does that. She may be losing a lot of money by doing LTs. Not sure.
AssLover945
10-31-15, 19:22
http://www.analisamassage.com/bangkok-massage
http://www.sensualmassagebangkok.com/
Check out my recent review of SMB in this thread.
SL.Thank you for the pointers.
I must try them.
AssLover945
10-31-15, 19:23
Try this.
http://www.pattayaprostatemassage.com/index.htmlThis looks interesting!
Thanks.
And Syz, it is really up to the girl whether she is "ordinary" or not. There are lots of gals who are not great lookers but perform well and stay very busy and make good money. Benz is not stunning and has had a kid, but oh what skills. Ying at Tulip another example. Now, a looker who performs can take it to a whole other level, but there are fewer of those as dudes tend to let them get away with poor service.You speak as though you believe anyone can be super skilled. I don't really believe this is the case, although obviously attitude and having a good teacher can help. Some girls learn well and others do not. Some girls simply do not consider being ass fucked.
Girls tell me there is a big variation in how good the guys are too, at various things. Good DATY doesn't come naturally to a guy. Unless an experienced girl trains him, he could have little idea what are the best techniques, unless always gets continuous coaching while employing trial and error. Most girls are silent and do not coach much. I was well trained by a Thai girl 24 years ago. Before that, I wasn't very good at it, despite the desire to do as well as possible. My experience was limited before that. Never did it with my ex wife because her pussy tasted / smelled bad. I still thought I could do it well, but most girls are too polite to tell that it wasn't top grade.
I don't believe that being good looking causes a girl to be less skilled, however I do accept that they get away with more crap performance. It's just there are so few good lookers around in the Oilies. Finding a beauty with great performance is tough.
My beauty with excellent GFE (non PSE) Bai Fern has been gone nearly two years. Also my other good looking very experienced expert girl also retired a few months back. This hit extra hard as I was dependent on her like a 2nd girlfriend, with strong feelings starting to build. It's hard to find replacements. Still have an older bargirl with excellent pussy squeeze. Posted a pic of her fabulous ass not long back.
Unfortunately looks dominates my thinking. I cannot go with a fabulous performer if I don't find her looks very appealing. I can go with an average performer if she makes good GFE and is very enthusiastic even if her BJ is weak. I believe it is caused by having a girlfriend with a very good body and quite good face who is wild in bed but not technically brilliant. My only problem with the GF, is just don't get a session often enough. The more my GF wants sex, the less I need to monger. Sometimes I get a shock when GF wants sex two days running. Probably the horny time of month. She need not ask if I am in the mood. I am always in the mood. LOL Sometimes presence of GF's daughter is limiting my sex opportunities at home. School holidays is a lean time. GF is rather shy about sex. A devout Buddhist too. The Buddha gets a lot more attention than my dick. LOL
Her bubbly character and good interaction warranted a tip, which she accepted with a big smile and more DFK.
Now I have one remaining question: what would happen if a client does NOT choose the "special option" and insists on a proper nuru (or any other kind of) massage?1) I am sure 98% of the Customers choose the "special" option. For the remaining 2%, the girl teases by rubbing their genitals etc. during the massage until the Customer gives in! :)
2) If I have to guess, Pooky appears to be 26 or 27 years old. Did she have a belly or any stretch marks?
Thanks,
BKKguru.
Now I have one remaining question: what would happen if a client does NOT choose the "special option" and insists on a proper nuru (or any other kind of) massage?I thought this topic is well covered before. The girls makes zero money from massage in this type of shop. If a guy wants massage only he should be shot for going to the wrong place, unless he is willing to pay the girl for the special that he is not having.
Its okay To have nuru gel massage or body slide, and I do take body slide stuff, but you have to pay for the "special" regardless, otherwise you are expecting to get the girl's time and work for free.
Girls hate customers who do not want special. That is what they tell me.
As I understand multipop oilies include:
Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Candy, Bongkot, Snow White, Bamboo (Is that right? Trip to BKK is coming soon but only so much time, want to make it count. Thinks!
As I understand multipop oilies include:
Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Candy, Bongkot, Snow White, Bamboo (Is that right? Trip to BKK is coming soon but only so much time, want to make it count. Thinks!Yes. Your understanding is correct.
As I understand multipop oilies include:
Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Candy, Bongkot, Snow White, Bamboo (Is that right? Trip to BKK is coming soon but only so much time, want to make it count. Thinks!Yep. Those all are considered multipop PSE oilies. The next question is are there others? Anyone?
You speak as though you believe anyone can be super skilled. I don't really believe this is the case, although obviously attitude and having a good teacher can help. Some girls learn well and others do not. Some girls simply do not consider being ass fucked.
Girls tell me there is a big variation in how good the guys are too, at various things. Good DATY doesn't come naturally to a guy. Unless an experienced girl trains him, he could have little idea what are the best techniques, unless always gets continuous coaching while employing trial and error. Most girls are silent and do not coach much. I was well trained by a Thai girl 24 years ago. Before that, I wasn't very good at it, despite the desire to do as well as possible. My experience was limited before that. Never did it with my ex wife because her pussy tasted / smelled bad. I still thought I could do it well, but most girls are too polite to tell that it wasn't top grade.
I don't believe that being good looking causes a girl to be less skilled, however I do accept that they get away with more crap performance. It's just there are so few good lookers around in the Oilies. Finding a beauty with great performance is tough.
My beauty with excellent GFE (non PSE) Bai Fern has been gone nearly two years. Also my other good looking very experienced expert girl also retired a few months back. This hit extra hard as I was dependent on her like a 2nd girlfriend, with strong feelings starting to build. It's hard to find replacements. Still have an older bargirl with excellent pussy squeeze. Posted a pic of her fabulous ass not long back.
Unfortunately looks dominates my thinking. I cannot go with a fabulous performer if I don't find her looks very appealing. I can go with an average performer if she makes good GFE and is very enthusiastic even if her BJ is weak. I believe it is caused by having a girlfriend with a very good body and quite good face who is wild in bed but not technically brilliant. My only problem with the GF, is just don't get a session often enough. The more my GF wants sex, the less I need to monger. Sometimes I get a shock when GF wants sex two days running. Probably the horny time of month. She need not ask if I am in the mood. I am always in the mood. LOL Sometimes presence of GF's daughter is limiting my sex opportunities at home. School holidays is a lean time. GF is rather shy about sex. A devout Buddhist too. The Buddha gets a lot more attention than my dick. LOLAgree that not every gal is going to take it in the keister. But, I do think every girl can learn how to give a great BJ, HJ, learn where and how to touch a man to arouse and tantalize him, Kegel so that her pubic muscles are strong. Personally I really think it is an essential part of the job. Not having these skills is akin to a plumber not knowing how to change an o-ring in a faucet. Hell, most of my high school girlfriends were far more adroit than many of the Thai gals I encounter. In fact, I have had very few women back in the US who were not amazingly skilled. They all take pride in it as well.
For me performance is still paramount, although I must admit looks are important and becoming more so. If I can't have the right combination I would rather just pass and save my dough and jizz for that matter.
I am in the same boat as you with my main two regulars recently moving on. It is nigh on impossible to find replacements. It has depressed me more than I would have thought.
I don't understand why, but many working girls don't seem to want to make the effort to be a really good fun time, and get popular and make big money. They don't even understand why some other girls are very popular. They maybe weak brained or don't really care about the money. Yet other girls have become very popular. Something they are doing is working.
At Crazy House, Ging could be making very big money, yet I don't actually know if she is. She may be squandering her chances. She has a cute schoolgirl look, big natural tits that gets guys in, and then is a very good fun responsive and passionate fuck on the bed. She could make a fortune by doing 3 to 4 ST bookings per night. I don't believe she actually does that. She may be losing a lot of money by doing LTs. Not sure.Ne neither. I think what is comes down to is most don't want to be seen as "bad girls. " And that is what "bad girls" do. Working in the P4 P industry can be rationalized as a "job" but if you really get into it and enjoy it, then you are a "bad girl. " Thailand is still very conservative in that sense.
It doesn't seem all that difficult to believe a girl working in a MP gets the lion's share of the take. After all, the MP needs service providers more than the service providers need the MP. Sure, it is convenient and more comfortable for a service provider to hang out in such a place waiting for customers to show up. But the reality is the ultimate service her customers go there for is quite portable, would work pretty much the same in any hotel room, apartment, condo or short time room that has a shower and a bed. And in this day and age of Craig's List, dating sites, hook up apps, not to mention the usual age old locations like the nearest bar, restaurant or how about the sidewalk in a high traffic area, a moderately attractive girl who can and does deliver the goods when called upon would do just fine while a Massage Parlor without any girls worth a damn at either performing an actual massage or a happy ending that anyone would be happy to receive and pay for wouldn't last a week.Agreed 100%. And this is why management / owners are not as demanding with the gals as far as performance as well.
Many still pay the 1500 to the gal in the room when at one of the PSE joints. So yes, they get 1500 Baht at least at Tulip, SW, Mango, etc. As far as the other shops are concerned, I don't know.Actually that is not quite correct. Different shops have different pay scales. For instance Tulip takes not just the massage fee but also 400 Baht out of the 1500 Baht "tip".
On top of it the girls have to buy their own shower gel, oil, KY and condoms and tip the maid 20 Baht per room use.
That basically leaves about 1000 Baht net for the girl for which she will have to give a full 3 hole service.
The girls can take one day off per week. Any extra day off the girls have to pay 3,000 Baht for weekdays and 5,000 Baht at weekends and public holidays if they don't show up.
Some of the other shops give the girls a cut on the massage fee after they have serviced a certain number of customers which favors the superstars and keeps them loyal.
It doesn't seem all that difficult to believe a girl working in a MP gets the lion's share of the take. After all, the MP needs service providers more than the service providers need the MP. Sure, it is convenient and more comfortable for a service provider to hang out in such a place waiting for customers to show up. But the reality is the ultimate service her customers go there for is quite portable, would work pretty much the same in any hotel room, apartment, condo or short time room that has a shower and a bed. And in this day and age of Craig's List, dating sites, hook up apps, not to mention the usual age old locations like the nearest bar, restaurant or how about the sidewalk in a high traffic area, a moderately attractive girl who can and does deliver the goods when called upon would do just fine while a Massage Parlor without any girls worth a damn at either performing an actual massage or a happy ending that anyone would be happy to receive and pay for wouldn't last a week.The shops also provide a certain level of safety to the girls which freelancers and girls working through the internet do not enjoy. There are a lot of crazy customers out and about.
It doesn't seem all that difficult to believe a girl working in a MP gets the lion's share of the take. After all, the MP needs service providers more than the service providers need the MP. Sure, it is convenient and more comfortable for a service provider to hang out in such a place waiting for customers to show up. But the reality is the ultimate service her customers go there for is quite portable, would work pretty much the same in any hotel room, apartment, condo or short time room that has a shower and a bed. And in this day and age of Craig's List, dating sites, hook up apps, not to mention the usual age old locations like the nearest bar, restaurant or how about the sidewalk in a high traffic area, a moderately attractive girl who can and does deliver the goods when called upon would do just fine while a Massage Parlor without any girls worth a damn at either performing an actual massage or a happy ending that anyone would be happy to receive and pay for wouldn't last a week.Logical deduction has no place with Thai working girls.
Oily girls are far too plentiful. Good Shops don't need them unless they are stunning or very talented. There are very few of those around.
That fact is many shops are ripping off the girl and taking the lion's share or significant portion of of the money. Many girls are making little more than 1 K per fuck.
Some shops have take out fee which gives nothing to the girl. She has to be paid separately.
The shops also provide a certain level of safety to the girls which freelancers and girls working through the internet do not enjoy. There are a lot of crazy customers out and about.Another thing that may be a factor is it seems many of the shops recruit their girls from a particular town often by word of mouth, and therefore many of the girls working at a particular shop know one another from home if not directly then through friends. At least that is my impression. This too adds to the comfort level of working at shop rather than independently.
However, now that there are a few similar-type shops, some of which are connected in a way, and others not so much, it is easier for the girls to move around from shop to shop, and in some instances follow their friends from one shop to another. This may be a bigger threat to management's ability to retain the girls, and therefore demand high standards from them, than competition from the internet, freelancing opportunities, and so forth. For example, May has worked at Tulip, Snow White, Candy, and I believe Bongkot. Back when Tulip was the only PSE-oily game in town, May worked at Tulip, period. I would bet some of the newer girls take this ability to move from one shop to another, which they seem to learn about quickly, as a sort of freedom that might affect their relationship with management and make them harder to train, or get great service from. Then again, maybe I'm wrong.
LoveHole69
11-01-15, 13:04
Bkkmick.
This is the most accurate answer I have seen. Most of the others are just speculating, by the time the girl has bought shower gel mouth wash ect and if the customer showers a lot she is left with little more than 1000 also you have to consider if they get a sick ass or whatever that needs medecine they have to buy it plus you mentioned the maid fee for the room but I also think they have to pay some fee for room use like 100 baht which means the small cut they get from the house massage fee is taken away. So at the end of the day the ladys who work in the pse shops either are stupid or just super horney and that's why now like people are saying with a lot of pse shops and ladys moving around managment can't be so strict in training them.
Most of the girls making huge money are either superstars or ladys like June cream ect from snow white who got themselves very rich sponsors, otherwise most of the girls are making decent money but not a huge amount compared to the managment and bosses of snow white, mango tulip ect who made millions of baht a few years ago when the shops were very busy.
FreeWillyBruh
11-01-15, 15:28
Gents. Returning next month and was wondering if anyone can chime in on any good experiences and names of oilies on 22 or the sub soi's (enjoyed Ann from Anastasia or Analisa) last time but thought I read that one was recently raided around there. Called out a bunch to Legacy Suites on Soi 29 and would recommend this hotel BTW.
As I understand multipop oilies include:
Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Candy, Bongkot, Snow White, Bamboo (Is that right? Trip to BKK is coming soon but only so much time, want to make it count. Thinks!Bamboo is by Soi 8, Tulip is up by Thong Lo station. The rest of the oilies you mention are all clustered around Soi 22,24, 24/1 and 26, When I fancy an oily I do a little tour of the shops in this area seeing if any of the women take my eye and will provide what I want. I rarely venture away from Snow White and Bongkot nowadays although I was a big Mango fan not so long ago.
Cash. I have no idea mate, have never had the pleasure. She was behind the counter in Bongkot on Monday without makeup or 'uniform'. I told her I wanted to fuck her in the ass, she smiled and declined saying she stopped work. Maybe she has retired or didn't appreciate my smooth chat up lines . I do find her very very attractive in an impish way but think that that ship has sailed. I had to make do with a mony-nooknik duo.Hi all,
I'm wheels up in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know what the deal is with the lady name Cash at Bongkot? Anyone had her lately or know if she is still working? I tried to take her last time I was at Bongkot and she said she had stopped working. The Bongkot website seems to be updated relatively frequently and she is still on there. I wonder if she has left her picture on there to build up the number of girls?
I'd like to email / txt Bongkot to make a booking but can only see a Bangkok landline number on the website. Anyone got an email for Bongkot?
Thanks.
Hi all,
I'm wheels up in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know what the deal is with the lady name Cash at Bongkot? Anyone had her lately or know if she is still working? I tried to take her last time I was at Bongkot and she said she had stopped working. The Bongkot website seems to be updated relatively frequently and she is still on there. I wonder if she has left her picture on there to build up the number of girls?
I'd like to email / txt Bongkot to make a booking but can only see a Bangkok landline number on the website. Anyone got an email for Bongkot?
Thanks.Cash is not working at the moment, but mentioned to me that she might in the near future.
I just returned from Addict. I got there at 11:00 and chose Yind for one hour oily. I like the rooms as they seem to above average for its class. Looking at the line up I would say there were lots of 7. 5 and no one really stood out. I liked how Yind fit into the dress. In the room, after the obligatory shower I got a really good oily. I think it was too good as I started to relax. Something detrimental to my full staff standing at the sight of Yind undressing. After the massage is when things started unwinding. To begin with there was a lot of hand and breast rubbing and very little else. I kept thinking any moment now I am going to have a BBBJ. But no that is not what transpired. My little guy is just not satisfied as the bar, having spent several days in Frankfurt, has been set high. Minimum of which demands BBBJ. Five years ago when I was in Bangkok last I remember seeing a really hot girl in front of a massage parlor on this street that I took. And she too did similar things. I had forgotten the name of the place and now I think I have found it again.
I could tell Yind was getting concerned about my little guy when it would keep loosing attention. Hand and breast stimulation only go so far. A CBJ finally ensued at about forty min into the session. I asked her for a sixty nine. To which she hesitantly obliged. I could look but do nothing else as she would keep pulling away. After a few minof this she reverted back to doing a hand job. By this time I was starting loose interest as I was not getting much out of this other then a hand job because a CBJ was not cutting it. Now I am fifty min into the session and got a concerned warning from Yind to hurry up as the place was closing. Finally I told her to go back to the sixty nine so that I can get some visual stimulation while she does her hand job. I can say that she is really hot from behind. Two minutes of the visuals and I was done.
I am pretty sure I am not going to be returning here again.
Randy Murican
11-01-15, 20:59
At Crazy House, Ging could be making very big money, yet I don't actually know if she is. She may be squandering her chances. She has a cute schoolgirl look, big natural tits that gets guys in, and then is a very good fun responsive and passionate fuck on the bed. She could make a fortune by doing 3 to 4 ST bookings per night. I don't believe she actually does that. She may be losing a lot of money by doing LTs. Not sure.I for one am actually very happy to find a girl like Ging. Girls that go down the rabbit hole of doing multiple ST's every day for weeks or months on end don't stay a "very good fun responsive and passionate fuck on the bed" for very long. They are true unicorns if they can. The multiple ST girls tend to be not so much fun and to be perfunctory in their performance. Of course that's just in my experience and yours may be totally different.
I just returned from Addict. I got there at 11:00 and chose Yind for one hour oily. I like the rooms as they seem to above average for its class. Looking at the line up I would say there were lots of 7. 5 and no one really stood out. I liked how Yind fit into the dress. In the room, after the obligatory shower I got a really good oily. I think it was too good as I started to relax. Something detrimental to my full staff standing at the sight of Yind undressing. After the massage is when things started unwinding. To begin with there was a lot of hand and breast rubbing and very little else. I kept thinking any moment now I am going to have a BBBJ. But no that is not what transpired. My little guy is just not satisfied as the bar, having spent several days in Frankfurt, has been set high. Minimum of which demands BBBJ. Five years ago when I was in Bangkok last I remember seeing a really hot girl in front of a massage parlor on this street that I took. And she too did similar things. I had forgotten the name of the place and now I think I have found it again.
I could tell Yind was getting concerned about my little guy when it would keep loosing attention. Hand and breast stimulation only go so far. A CBJ finally ensued at about forty min into the session. I asked her for a sixty nine. To which she hesitantly obliged. I could look but do nothing else as she would keep pulling away. After a few minof this she reverted back to doing a hand job. By this time I was starting loose interest as I was not getting much out of this other then a hand job because a CBJ was not cutting it. Now I am fifty min into the session and got a concerned warning from Yind to hurry up as the place was closing. Finally I told her to go back to the sixty nine so that I can get some visual stimulation while she does her hand job. I can say that she is really hot from behind. Two minutes of the visuals and I was done.
I am pretty sure I am not going to be returning here again.Thanks for the report. Despite having passed by Addict many times I haven't ever gone in, probably largely because of what seems like mixed reports on the level of service provided there. I believe I have sometimes read that BBBJ's are provided there by some of the girls, and it may also be possible to get two shots if one asks in advance and the girl agrees, although this would not be common and would likely depend on an extra tip.
My question for those who have patronized the place, do CBJ's prevail, with the occasional girl doing a BBBJ, or it is the other way around? Similarly for 2-shots vs. one. And while we are at it, how common is DFKing? I know it is possible to go in and start asking for girls who do each of these things, but at a point that can become rather tedious. So can anyone provide information about the service there generally, and which direction it leans regarding things like BBBJ's, DFK, etc.? Thanks in advance for any clarifications.
I just returned from Addict. I got there at 11:00 and chose Yind for one hour oily. I like the rooms as they seem to above average for its class. Looking at the line up I would say there were lots of 7. 5 and no one really stood out. I liked how Yind fit into the dress. In the room, after the obligatory shower I got a really good oily. I think it was too good as I started to relax. Something detrimental to my full staff standing at the sight of Yind undressing. After the massage is when things started unwinding. To begin with there was a lot of hand and breast rubbing and very little else. I kept thinking any moment now I am going to have a BBBJ. But no that is not what transpired. My little guy is just not satisfied as the bar, having spent several days in Frankfurt, has been set high. Minimum of which demands BBBJ. Five years ago when I was in Bangkok last I remember seeing a really hot girl in front of a massage parlor on this street that I took. And she too did similar things. I had forgotten the name of the place and now I think I have found it again.
I could tell Yind was getting concerned about my little guy when it would keep loosing attention. Hand and breast stimulation only go so far. A CBJ finally ensued at about forty min into the session. I asked her for a sixty nine. To which she hesitantly obliged. I could look but do nothing else as she would keep pulling away. After a few minof this she reverted back to doing a hand job. By this time I was starting loose interest as I was not getting much out of this other then a hand job because a CBJ was not cutting it. Now I am fifty min into the session and got a concerned warning from Yind to hurry up as the place was closing. Finally I told her to go back to the sixty nine so that I can get some visual stimulation while she does her hand job. I can say that she is really hot from behind. Two minutes of the visuals and I was done.
I am pretty sure I am not going to be returning here again.Did you tell her that CBJ was unacceptable during the session? Did you complain to the mamasan on the way out? Truth be told things are not going to get better unless we all stop accepting poor performance. There were a few posts to this effect earlier in the week.
Randy Murican
11-02-15, 02:08
Did you tell her that CBJ was unacceptable during the session? Did you complain to the mamasan on the way out? Truth be told things are not going to get better unless we all stop accepting poor performance. There were a few posts to this effect earlier in the week.I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.
I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai.
Now I'm sure there is a lot of variability among us guys as to whether going down a list with the mama-san is tiresome, but for me one of the reasons I go to the confirmed PSE oilies is because one usually doesn't need to do this, except perhaps for A+ service (although unfortunately even in this regard the times they are a changin').
I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai.
Now I'm sure there is a lot of variability among us guys as to whether going down a list with the mama-san is tiresome, but for me one of the reasons I go to the confirmed PSE oilies is because one usually doesn't need to do this, except perhaps for A+ service (although unfortunately even in this regard the times they are a changin').As I stated before, I certainly understand that some gals don't provide A+ and I appreciate it when it is listed on the website. I think one can count on BBBJ et al from the PSE shops. Sadly when you take one step down to places like Addict, there are no guarantees. When Addict first opened each gal had a page in the "book" and that listed the services the gal was willing to engage in. After the raid by the authorities last October pics disappeared. So unfortunately now we have to go down a list with the mamasan at non-PSE shops. Yes, "times are a changin'" and not for the better when it comes to P4 P in BKK.
Randy Murican
11-02-15, 03:27
I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai.
Now I'm sure there is a lot of variability among us guys as to whether going down a list with the mama-san is tiresome, but for me one of the reasons I go to the confirmed PSE oilies is because one usually doesn't need to do this, except perhaps for A+ service (although unfortunately even in this regard the times they are a changin').Yep, perhaps your list is a lot longer than mine, LOL. I keep mine to the bare minimum requirements and any extras that happen spontaneously in the session are a bonus. In a PSE shop you could ask for only the girls that do it all or send an email first to list out your requirements. You could even make a template e-mail and just add the address of the shops you are interested in. Of course some shops are better than others at responding.
Even with all these precautions I still end up with some less than stellar experiences. Mostly because the girl and I just don't connect at a visceral level. There is bound to be some disappointment in our chosen hobby for whatever reasons.
I don't disagree in principle, although as I earlier mentioned having to go down the list of one's requirements with the Mama-san can get somewhat tedious and tiresome. And adding to this is that at some of the shops there is a lot of room for miscommunications (or in some instances perhaps intentional miscommunications?) given many of those at the front desk are not great at English and most of us don't speak Thai. I'll go even further with your point and say my experience, perhaps limited compared to many here with only about 15 so-called PSE oily massage shop visits to draw from over the years and as recently as last week, is that it is pretty much a waste of time to cover which girl will perform which service and how well with the mamasan or the papasan. Ultimately, they have no idea what really happens when those girls are alone in the room with a customer. Even enthusiastic customer testimonials to them on the way out don't matter much because too many guys today think, as an example, that a handjob that happens to include some oral foreplay is a "blowjob" or a "BBBJ".
I have not met the mamasan or papasan who has recommended a girl based on my very short and quite ordinary list of requests (slow and easy BBBJ CIM being chief among them) who has gotten it right. And I have asked several. Typically, in the room the highly recommended girl will either be totally incapable of slowing down her action from rapid fire jack-hammer level or will cum-dodge at the end as quickly as a total first-timer. I've had at least two girls in the PSE oilies who were highly recommended by the mamasan for my humble requirements mentioned above flat out state after the door closes behind us that she will not be performing a CIM finish for any blowjob now or ever.
My suggestion is anyone who wants to make sure he gets a particular level of service from a PSE massage shop girl he has never been with before these days is to cover every important detail of it with the girl in front of the mamasan before selecting her and do not under any circumstances select a girl who does not reply with a clear and unambiguous "Yes", not just a head nod or a big seemingly agreeable smile. Does that sound even more tiresome than merely covering it with a mamasan? You bet it is. But it really is the only way I will deal with the so-called PSE massage shops from now on.
Wolvenvacht
11-02-15, 10:28
2) If I have to guess, Pooky appears to be 26 or 27 years old. Did she have a belly or any stretch marks?
Thanks,
BKKguru.Yes, that seems to be about her age.
No stretch marks that I could see but the lighting in the room isn't very strong and anyhow some minimal stretch marks don't put me off, so if any, they may have not registered on me.
She is not the small skinny spinner type, but in European eyes she is still very slim. Just "soft" enough to make hugging and touching her a real pleasure.
Wolvenvacht
11-02-15, 10:48
I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.Haha, it seems good ol' Eden Club will soon be that last place where you can get all the extras (even A+ if you choose a girl on the left of the yellow line) without asking beforehand if these are on the menu. Everytime I have been there I got at least one CIM (without swallowing though) without even asking and although I always indicate when I'm about to cum (so she can withdraw if she likes) the Eden girls never scare for CIM.
I think GS has a very good point and I'm a little amazed at guys that will choose a girl without any idea of what services she provides. It's really not that difficult to find girls that will provide your minimum requirements. Next time you go into a shop talk to the Mama-San. Tell her exactly the services you want in the session and then have her show you a line up of girls that will meet those minimal requirements. If none of the girls meet your eye-candy quotient then thank her and move on to the next venue. For me, no BBBJ is a deal breaker and I don't want to discover that in the room.There are many places that doesn't work LOL. Mamasan / Papasans will lie through their teeth and say anything to get customers to stay, they just look like cattle ready to be slaughtered (because more are coming on the next plane in their eyes). If you go to a place regularly you will find out who provides what and they will not lie then as they care about a repeat customer. But if you show up for the first time, they will figure out what NOT to say and what TO say in order to get you to stay and spend money. If it is Thai owned, then they don't give 2 flying fucks about whether or not customers leave happy as they all collude and the different shops are owned by the same people.
Yep, perhaps your list is a lot longer than mine, LOL. I keep mine to the bare minimum requirements and any extras that happen spontaneously in the session are a bonus. In a PSE shop you could ask for only the girls that do it all or send an email first to list out your requirements. You could even make a template e-mail and just add the address of the shops you are interested in. Of course some shops are better than others at responding.
Even with all these precautions I still end up with some less than stellar experiences. Mostly because the girl and I just don't connect at a visceral level. There is bound to be some disappointment in our chosen hobby for whatever reasons.I imagine that doing it by email is a good idea, since now the onus is on the management to actually provide. Whereas if you just walk in and ask, they are afraid if they don't say the right thing at that moment, with what ever limited supply they have, they will lose a customer. If you email ahead of time, they can easily ask around via phone and setup everything smoothly. And again, the onus is on them to acquire a customer, whereas if you walk in a shop you are considered to have already given them your money in their greedy eyes.
I imagine that doing it by email is a good idea, since now the onus is on the management to actually provide. Whereas if you just walk in and ask, they are afraid if they don't say the right thing at that moment, with what ever limited supply they have, they will lose a customer. If you email ahead of time, they can easily ask around via phone and setup everything smoothly. And again, the onus is on them to acquire a customer, whereas if you walk in a shop you are considered to have already given them your money in their greedy eyes.I have come up with a simple solution that I will use next time I go to Addict. With the full lineup in front of me I will ask the mamasan to dismiss the girls who don't DFK, then the girls who won't give BBBJ, then the girls who won't do MSG, and finally the girls who won't rim. My guess is there will be no one left. If there is I will partake knowing that the gals will deliver as it would be a huge loss of face not to. If not I will tell the mamansan this is why her biz is flagging.
Haha, it seems good ol' Eden Club will soon be that last place where you can get all the extras (even A+ if you choose a girl on the left of the yellow line) without asking beforehand if these are on the menu. Everytime I have been there I got at least one CIM (without swallowing though) without even asking and although I always indicate when I'm about to cum (so she can withdraw if she likes) the Eden girls never scare for CIM.BTW, the performance standards at Bongkot and Tulip are pretty good at the moment. I think Saeng realizes that some of us are very unhappy with the service we are receiving at many PSE places and has made it her mantra to return to the good ole days.
Anyone tried massage & barber salons in Soi 22? Any nice action and shave?
Went to Dream Heaven on Soi 33 at 8 PM, wasn't that much to chose from. I think the best time to go there is before 3:30 PM as it seems they are too busy from then until 7 and by then a lot of the talent leaves for the day it seems. Anyway the reason I like the Soi 33 is the girls are more experienced and less of the Asian-doll-good-girl-complex which I'm not really into. I only got the Body 2 body massage for like 1600 baht for an hour. Good teasing / technique from an experienced provider. One negative remark about DH33, they are not nearby other places and they are a bit of a walk away from all other related adult venues. So you kind of get stuck there if you don't like what you see, and the mamasan is a bit greedy (like all of them really) so there is pressure to pick a girl from what is sometimes too slim of a line-up.
I later went onto Dream heaven Soi 24/1 that night and got there at like 10 PM. I walked down that soi about 2 times and didn't really see anything I fancied until I spot a particular girl working at Dream heaven (Soi 24/1). She was definitely cute and built the way I like (not a frail Asian doll, had a good body). Look, this girl has got a giant ass / thighs (muscle / thick) and small waist, it's pretty insane. She's one of the few asian women who *really* has a butt, not just sort of / kinda has one. Decent tits too. I highly recommend going just to see that thing because is NICE. She's kind of young and her service wasn't bad but it wasn't good either. I got a good BBBJ though, and I think the lack of great service may have been on my part as I was on my second round and was tired that night.
In short, I highly recommend just swinging by Dream Heaven Soi 24/1 just to check out the ass on the one of the chicks who work there. I even more highly recommend getting a room with her in it if you are an ass man like I am, as those are kind of rare to come by. She is from Myanmar if it matters (I've noticed some of the women who come from there are both really cute but also busty / curvy).
Finally, some random intel about Nataree. Thursdays are not a good day to go because that's when the onsite doctor is there. This intel comes from Stickman's weekly and I concur. I have thought it was strange that they would have such a dip in Thursday as well yet Wed was busy.
First called into Snow White last Monday evening. The line-up didn't impress looks wise so moved on. After checking a few places, a girl sat outside Boss Massage on 24/1 stood out so decided to give it a go. Chompoo looked striking, fairly tall and slim with really long hair and looked lively and fun, an attitude which continued in the room. While she was fun and chatty (in Thai), she was clearly inexperienced and pretty much did the bare minimum to fill out the 90 minutes. BJ was per functionary and I had to ask her to continue. 69 was refused due her finding it ticklish. My attitude when things like this happen is to keep things light and pleasant and go along with the flow to a certain extent, but make a mental note not to repeat. One shot, so-so yet pro-longed massage and 1 minute BJ, I won't be.
Having patronized places like Angel, Addict and Boss a few times on the one hand and Snow White and Mango on the other. I'm beginning to think that there's a widening gap performance wise between the few more PSE places and others with younger, cuter girls increasingly aimed at more Asian clientele. While I go into the latter with eyes wide open, neither expecting or demanding the same variety or intensity, it's getting to a point now where I increasingly come out disappointed and questioning why I just spent over 2000 baht. A considerable amount of money here for a few hours work, where the provider does as little as they can get away with, barely hiding their disdain for having to do anything remotely like work.
Anyone tried massage & barber salons in Soi 22? Any nice action and shave?Wow, such a thing exists?? This is a long standing fantasy of mine. Getting a haircut/shave with a beautiful girl sucking me off under the covers.
I imagine that doing it by email is a good idea, since now the onus is on the management to actually provide. Whereas if you just walk in and ask, they are afraid if they don't say the right thing at that moment, with what ever limited supply they have, they will lose a customer. If you email ahead of time, they can easily ask around via phone and setup everything smoothly. And again, the onus is on them to acquire a customer, whereas if you walk in a shop you are considered to have already given them your money in their greedy eyes.I've tried the emailing system with mixed results. I still think the best thing is to go on foot to the PSE oilies around 22/24 and 26 and spell out exactly what you want using the phrases that the girls understand. I get the girls to line up in front of me and then clearly ask them which do A+ and put my hand up, I used to ask them which did Anal and just got blank stares but A+ seems to get the message across. Some people may be a little uncomfortable with this but I figure that they have heard it all before. Once I've asked the question, a few girls will disappear and few will put their hands up generally giggling and looking at who else is putting their hands up. From there I make my selection hoping that any available lookers or spinners have their hands up.
I've tried the emailing system with mixed results. I still think the best thing is to go on foot to the PSE oilies around 22/24 and 26 and spell out exactly what you want using the phrases that the girls understand. I get the girls to line up in front of me and then clearly ask them which do A+ and put my hand up, I used to ask them which did Anal and just got blank stares but A+ seems to get the message across. Some people may be a little uncomfortable with this but I figure that they have heard it all before. Once I've asked the question, a few girls will disappear and few will put their hands up generally giggling and looking at who else is putting their hands up. From there I make my selection hoping that any available lookers or spinners have their hands up.I don't have any hesitation to ask who does A+. After all the term is used on many of the oilies' websites.
Where I have a problem is asking about the other stuff because there is no clear terminology, which makes the questioning more difficult.
So may I suggest (tongue in cheek), that the oilies add to their A+ terminology the following:
DFK = D+.
Rimming = R+.
CIM = C+.
DATY= DY+.
CBJ = F-.
Or maybe they could just revert to the old days when you didn't have to ask; it was just available as a matter of course (with a few, not many, exceptions).
I don't have any hesitation to ask who does A+. After all the term is used on many of the oilies' websites.
Where I have a problem is asking about the other stuff because there is no clear terminology, which makes the questioning more difficult.
So may I suggest (tongue in cheek), that the oilies add to their A+ terminology the following:
DFK = D+.
Rimming = R+.
CIM = C+.
DATY= DY+.
CBJ = F-.
Or maybe they could just revert to the old days when you didn't have to ask; it was just available as a matter of course (with a few, not many, exceptions).LA Guy 5, appreciate and enjoy your wit, Especially the grade for CBJ.
In my experience, If a girl provides A+, she is very likely to provide all the other services you mentioned and BBBJ. Some are a little funny about facials but I think that is a makeup thing. Obviously I'm going to stick a big YMMV at the end of this. Talking about facials reminds me of a session with Mony. Now Monika at Bongkot. I got off the plane, straight into the hotel and then into Bongkot with Mony and Nooknik, Mony took one of the greatest facials I've ever delivered, she was sodden. Can't wait to see her again in a couple of weeks.
Ne neither. I think what is comes down to is most don't want to be seen as "bad girls. " And that is what "bad girls" do. Working in the P4 P industry can be rationalized as a "job" but if you really get into it and enjoy it, then you are a "bad girl. " Thailand is still very conservative in that sense.I agree, the save face thing is a big thing in Thailand. In fact, it keep all the country behind because people can't express them-self openly in most situations.
Did you ever see a Thai showing passion for something openly?
Did you tell her that CBJ was unacceptable during the session? Did you complain to the mamasan on the way out? Truth be told things are not going to get better unless we all stop accepting poor performance. There were a few posts to this effect earlier in the week.I tried to motion and drop hints as much as possible but the girl kept proceeding as if this is it. I really did not see how one could interview in such a public setting in front of other guests and not to mention other providers. I guess I really am spoiled by Germany.
What pisses me off more is that I think I fell for this place about four years ago. My memory is fading but I remember a looker hooking me in at just about the spot where Addict is and doing the looky but no licky service.
However all the rave reviews over rode my gut feeling. This kind of thing should never be allowed here. I wonder if I can email a complaint. At the minimum I would like to see the implementation of the rating system being proposed. I think such a system would allow for pay for service rendered. Those not wanting BBBJ would get a reduced service fees and so on. This gotcha business has really f'd my vacation. Frustrated I tried Mango yesterday. On the menu were only 3 girls at the late hour. Hoping service triumphs looks. I decided to give one of them a whirl. This girl would hardly rate a 7 but was young with braces. I figured my little guy could probably make it work. The BBBJ was definitely really good start.
Clearly the BS of next door was not applicable here. Furthermore the provider started with FS rather then massage and then the rest. This is what sets apart the better places. They are aware of what the customer's priority is. Maybe this could also be used on the fee structure. In the end at Mango I did not complete the deal as the visual was simply not at the level needed.
Nevertheless at least this was not totally disappointing as BBBJ was pretty good. The massage too was not bad either. I think, after having come to Bkk several times the sad reality of hot providers lousy service is starting to become too frequent. The tragic part is those are the only ones my little guy is satisfied with.
I am headed to Colonze 2 or Nartree tonight and hoping to change my luck. This is my last ditch effort to keep the faith.
...I think, after having come to Bkk several times the sad reality of hot providers lousy service is starting to become too frequent. The tragic part is those are the only ones my little guy is satisfied with.I am not sure if you were talking about all of Thailand's many p4 p options or just the massage shop option. Your observation is the same as mine with regard to massage shops and one of several reasons I partake of them very sparingly and then only if a "fail and bail" on my part doesn't matter much because I've got something much better waiting in the wings anyway. But I cannot say the same for the go-go bar option. In my experience, it is quite a bit easier and, ultimately, much less expensive to get a successfully completed as requested and desired boom-boom and / or BBBJ CIM with a hot go-go girl than stumbling onto such a combination, if ever, at a massage shop.
Of course, that does not mean every hot go-go dancer you want to have that outcome with will comply. The idea is to keep moving, keep interviewing even before you buy a single Lady Drink for the interviewee, until you get the right combination of looks, attitude and replies to your interview questions to justify paying the barfine and taking her to your room. You WILL find that combination virtually any night of the week in Bangkok. In my experience, it rarely requires more than 3 go-go girl interviews before I get a clear and definite "yes" to my requests. Sure, there are the rare occasions when I get to that fourth one. But if that bombs out, I either call it a night or hit one of the better BJ Bars in town. Then, invariably, the next night I will score a very enthusiastic "YES" on the very first try. So it all works out to be a much better average than many would think. I am talking about a real go-go dancer for the 700-800 baht barfine and 2,000-2,500 baht to her for Short Time and not a bait-and-switch scam Coyote girl.
It does require a bit more game than just walking into a massage shop, pointing and expecting the provider to make all the right things. You will want to come off as charming, sincere and kind-hearted as you can fake it. But the likelihood of getting the combination you described above is far greater in the go-go bar scene, despite the (undeserved, IMO) rap it gets, than in massage shops. If I had all the wasted 2,500 baht upfront payments back from the many "fail and bail" experiences I've been saddled with at massage shops over just the past three years I could fund a month or two of successfully completed sessions with hot go-go girls.
I guess I really am spoiled by Germany. I think, after having come to Bkk several times the sad reality of hot providers lousy service is starting to become too frequent. The tragic part is those are the only ones my little guy is satisfied with.I gotcha and agree 100%. Sadly I am sort of in the same boat. I want a good looking gal who is nasty and fun. Almost impossible to find in the P4 P scene these days.
I've tried the emailing system with mixed results. I still think the best thing is to go on foot to the PSE oilies around 22/24 and 26 and spell out exactly what you want using the phrases that the girls understand. I get the girls to line up in front of me and then clearly ask them which do A+ and put my hand up, I used to ask them which did Anal and just got blank stares but A+ seems to get the message across. Some people may be a little uncomfortable with this but I figure that they have heard it all before. Once I've asked the question, a few girls will disappear and few will put their hands up generally giggling and looking at who else is putting their hands up. From there I make my selection hoping that any available lookers or spinners have their hands up.Mamasan Candy at candymassage.com is very good about answering emails. It is one of the PSE shops.
SL.
...I guess I really am spoiled by Germany.I guess I am not as lucky as you. I go to Germany every year, mostly to the FKKs around the Frankfurt / Koln / Dusseldorff triangle. My experience has been hit and miss, just like with the oilies in Bangkok.
I guess I am not as lucky as you. I go to Germany every year, mostly to the FKKs around the Frankfurt / Koln / Dusseldorff triangle. My experience has been hit and miss, just like with the oilies in Bangkok.I think what makes FKK unique is that the interview process is inherently built in. Together with what you see is what you get. To date my experiences at FKK has been more positive then negative. That is not what I can say for BKK. Here it is all a game of chance it seems.
What I find amusing is that the Escort services layout exactly what the provider will and will not do. Yet the Massage Parlors play the box of chocolate game. You never know what you are going to get. For those short on resources and ones just barely able to make it out here, this kind of a guess is really a waste of time.
Unfortunately I had a smoking hot provider at what was once known as Atlantis way back when, that was from BKK and I just could not get enough of her. She actually gave me two shots in one session that to this date I remember. So now I keep hoping I will find another one of her sisters. I was in Sharks in FRA last week and met up with a 8 from here. I would have given her a 9 had she not had silicon implants. Before pulling the trigger I convinced myself to, wait, as I was leaving for BKK in the morning and felt there would be plenty to go around. So I stuck to the local talent. In hindsight I think I clearly made a mistake.
Just thinking about the one left behind makes me want to put even more into this futile situation. But I have to restrain myself as my time has run out now and I leave here tomorrow.
The suggestion below to getting a decent provider by venturing into the Go-Go world seems pretty good for those without trust issues. I for one have heard of too many unfortunate outcomes in bringing a stranger to ones room. I suppose a separate room could be rented to counter any side effects that may occur. Something to ponder if and when I return.
In my experience, If a girl provides A+, she is very likely to provide all the other services you mentioned and BBBJ. I remember a friend who was a Brazilian hand telling me a few years ago that he didn't like anal and typically did not partake, but would only go with girls who said they did anal for precisely the reason you give, i.e., the expectation of better service all the way around.
On the other hand there are anomalies that crop up now and then. For example, I have had more than one experience in Brazil where a girl started with aggressive rimming, but then tried to throw on a condom for the BJ. What??
Upon the advice of EiHTooms I decided to take a look at the Soi Cowboy establishments. My first impression of Baccara was one of amazement as to how hot the girls on the stage were. Finally some eye candy for a sorely starved being.
I stayed there for a hour or so and almost bar fined one of the providers there. Before committing I decided to check out Crazy House first. After a few minutes of watching my eyes met with a smoking hot natural curved hotty. After all of the rejections encountered I figured this chickwas probably booked by some Japanese dude or the like. But after set was finished I approached her as she was standing still at a table. I could not believe my luck that this 8. 5 had not been snapped up or booked for the rest of the year. Thank goodness for slow nights. I don't think I would have had a prayer on a busy night. I chatted her up and we hit it off really quickly. I found it amusing that her main concern was that she had a tanned skin tone. And she was trying to tell me to make sure I understood that.
Girl, that is not what I am looking at and hell that thought really had not crossed my mind in the slightest. I let her know that she was what Bangkok was to me. After four days of duds, finally a breakthrough.
I bought her a drink and had her attention for a few minutes. This was now 2:30 am. I asked her what time this closes and she replied 4:00 am. Then she went on to state how exhausted she was and was going to have to continue to dance. After she went back on the stage, I realized that I was going to need at least $3000.00 bhats or so.
I checked my reserves and realized I was going to come up short. So, sadly, after reflecting the time of the morning together with her being so exhausted I bid her goodbye. Just before my departure she gives me a peck on the cheek something that was totally unexpected.
Regardless of the outcome from this place, I have to say meeting a friendly down to earth 8. 5 was so, so very refreshing after days of disappointments that I now have hope that they do exist.
Member #4698
11-04-15, 01:19
Voyager, you seem to suffer from a case of really low self esteem or something. I do not understand how you could be having such bad "luck" in BKK of all places except that I believe we make our own luck. In your Crazy House report you seem to settle for so little in Pussyland! A smile, "a peck on the cheek" from a CH gal? Are you kidding? That is nothing. CH is a rowdy honky tonk bar. That's one of the reasons why I like the joint. The other reason is that there are 4 or 5 girls in here that have smokin' hot bodies.
In any event, MOST CH girls will happily sit on any drink buying, prospective customers lap naked, grind their little ass's into said a customers crotch, make out with said customer, and hope said customer will respond by caressing and sucking their breasts; all in the effort to hook said customer and get barfined. Don't you get it? These girls are working girls. They are the suppliers of pussy. We are the consumers of pussy. And thank Buddha, BKK is still a buyers market for pussy because of historical cultural reasons and because there is an excess of supply of pussy everywhere you look. It is past the time that you begin to understand this simple economic concept.
So "after days of disappointments" (your words), you pass on an "8. 5" (your opinion, not mine) that was being friendly and with whom you "hit it off really quickly." I hope you realize that was not a smart move on your part. When the girl said she was tired and indicated that she did not want to continue dancing, that was your cue to take her back to your place and have a good time. I think she would have been very appreciative. So you blew it Voyager. Oh well. There is always tomorrow night. Keep playing the game and you will eventually get the hang of it. Your "luck" is bound to change.
First called into Snow White last Monday evening. The line-up didn't impress looks wise so moved on. After checking a few places, a girl sat outside Boss Massage on 24/1 stood out so decided to give it a go. Chompoo looked striking, fairly tall and slim with really long hair and looked lively and fun, an attitude which continued in the room. While she was fun and chatty (in Thai), she was clearly inexperienced and pretty much did the bare minimum to fill out the 90 minutes. BJ was per functionary and I had to ask her to continue. 69 was refused due her finding it ticklish. My attitude when things like this happen is to keep things light and pleasant and go along with the flow to a certain extent, but make a mental note not to repeat. One shot, so-so yet pro-longed massage and 1 minute BJ, I won't be.
Having patronized places like Angel, Addict and Boss a few times on the one hand and Snow White and Mango on the other. I'm beginning to think that there's a widening gap performance wise between the few more PSE places and others with younger, cuter girls increasingly aimed at more Asian clientele. While I go into the latter with eyes wide open, neither expecting or demanding the same variety or intensity, it's getting to a point now where I increasingly come out disappointed and questioning why I just spent over 2000 baht. A considerable amount of money here for a few hours work, where the provider does as little as they can get away with, barely hiding their disdain for having to do anything remotely like work.Seems this is becoming an all too frequent occurrence. Gals like this really need to find another line of work.
Voyager, you seem to suffer from a case of really low self esteem or something. I do not understand how you could be having such bad "luck" in BKK of all places except that I believe we make our own luck.... Sounded to me more like he just got caught short of funds. But there was still a good 90 minutes left for him to go to an ATM or whatever. Then there was the opportunity to hook up with the girl after hours anyway. So maybe this was just an initial trial run. And a positive one it seems. It is not an insignificant task to transition from the far more passive consumer experience of the massage shops to the more pro-active one of the go-go bar scene. I think he will find it much easier to find the combination of looks and performance that he wants in Crazy House or any number of other go-go bars around town than in the so-called PSE massage shops. I know I do.
I consider myself one of the luckiest guys on the planet and am loaded with tons of positive self-esteem, likely totally undeserved LOL, but I could easily spend the next 2 weeks partaking of various highly-touted PSE massage shops around Bangkok on a nightly basis and would be shocked if any two of them produced results I would ever want to repeat. However, provided I do hit my main points of interest in the interview process and stick to my guns about not settling for less, being just fine with smiling, thanking the girl for her time and moving on ASAP when I don't get the right replies to my questions, the cost-benefit advantages of the go-go bar scene over massage shops is off the chart in favor of the go-go bar scene. Then again, my sexual requirements only involve DATY, boom-boom and real blowjobs. I am not interested in anal, rimming or any other butt play. I realize it is very probable that certain PSE massage shops are definitely the place to go for that and not the go-go bars.
Voyager, you seem to suffer from a case of really low self esteem or something. I do not understand how you could be having such bad "luck" in BKK of all places except that I believe we make our own luck. In your Crazy House report you seem to settle for so little in Pussyland! A smile, "a peck on the cheek" from a CH gal? Are you kidding? That is nothing. CH is a rowdy honky tonk bar. That's one of the reasons why I like the joint. The other reason is that there are 4 or 5 girls in here that have smokin' hot bodies.
In any event, MOST CH girls will happily sit on any drink buying, prospective customers lap naked, grind their little ass's into said a customers crotch, make out with said customer, and hope said customer will respond by caressing and sucking their breasts; all in the effort to hook said customer and get barfined. Don't you get it? These girls are working girls. They are the suppliers of pussy. We are the consumers of pussy. And thank Buddha, BKK is still a buyers market for pussy because of historical cultural reasons and because there is an excess of supply of pussy everywhere you look. It is past the time that you begin to understand this simple economic concept.
So "after days of disappointments" (your words), you pass on an "8. 5" (your opinion, not mine) that was being friendly and with whom you "hit it off really quickly." I hope you realize that was not a smart move on your part. When the girl said she was tired and indicated that she did not want to continue dancing, that was your cue to take her back to your place and have a good time. I think she would have been very appreciative. So you blew it Voyager. Oh well. There is always tomorrow night. Keep playing the game and you will eventually get the hang of it. Your "luck" is bound to change.Although I get tired of some posters here always dishing out destructive criticism, this post, while some might view as a bit harsh (for example, probably no reason to bring self esteem into it), seems largely constructive and spot on. Hopefully, it will help Voyager adjust his style in ways that enhance his experiences as well as help others who might benefit from following this advice.
And although I have visited CH briefly on a couple of occasions (just to look, had other plans later on), I also will keep this advice/information in mind should I visit CH again.
I consider myself one of the luckiest guys on the planet and am loaded with tons of positive self-esteem, likely totally undeserved LOLThere should not be an issue with low self-esteem. I was there once in my life, but I worked on it and now I have no problem in that area. That's the beauty, we can improve in almost every area, with time, practice, and a little bit of courage.
I don't think this has anything to do with self-esteem, low, mid high or whatever. It has to do with funds, and it sounds like Voyager just doesn't have enough money to afford much *Pay* 4 Play. That shouldn't be our problem (that's not to say that there aren't expanding problems in the P4 P scene). Funny, how Bangkok goes from paradise to a bad place for falangs when they run out of money 5555. It's almost as though the Thai's don't like the falangs and are only putting up with them for the money.
With regards to inclusive priced oillies (on Soi 24/26/33) vs the Go Go's. I don't know what to say really, as I don't take many ladies form gogo's, but I do go at various times throughout the year. I've been on Soi Cowboy many times, but have seen almost nothing but a few who were my type (I don't like the young petite Asian dolls). I can easily walk in, sit down and see 2 things I don't like. 1. Only 0-1 ladies who are my type. 2. Way more dudes than girls. This always makes it too difficult to find anyone and it ensures the price is going to be high. I'd rather call an expensive escort service or go to the Lord. I like Shark because the women there are hot and in the 24-28 range (my type). And it isn't crowded with more dudes than women.
I have 1 girl there that I routinely see if I do go to Soi cowboy (because I don't really find much else I like). She's 28 but looks younger and has been giving good / better service as the months go by. But the price is 2. 5 k to her and about 1 k to the bar for drinks and 300 baht for a ST room. That's almost 4 k baht, a little too high. Whereas I feel that there are more girls my type in the massage oillies and they only charge half that price (2 k, all inclusive, includes the price of the room). I like hot, full-bodied pre-MILF types as opposed to short / young / undeveloped which seems to be really common at Bangkok's Japanese focused Go-Go's. For example, I find almost nothing I like in Baccara Bangkok but I am enthralled with the talent at Baccara Pattaya.
Seems this is becoming an all too frequent occurrence. Gals like this really need to find another line of work.They won't find a new line of work until either enough people complain about it or the shop suffers a pro-longed downturn in business. Until then, they are doing fairly nicely for minimum effort. There are too many shops competing for too few girls, no discernible training for new girls in many places and customers allowing them to get away with sub-standard service. Until all these are addressed then service may continue to decline.
Funny, how Bangkok goes from paradise to a bad place for falangs when they run out of money. It's almost as though the Thai's don't like the falangs and are only putting up with them for the money.No kidding! Just look at Japan and South Korea, who don't need foreigners money apparently, difficult to get local pussy there.
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I have 1 girl there that I routinely see if I do go to Soi cowboy (because I don't really find much else I like). She's 28 but looks younger and has been giving good / better service as the months go by. But the price is 2. 5 k to her and about 1 k to the bar for drinks and 300 baht for a ST room. That's almost 4 k baht, a little too high. Whereas I feel that there are more girls my type in the massage oillies and they only charge half that price (2 k, all inclusive, includes the price of the room). .Just think. You could pay Baht 5,000/ hour for a web site escort or more, sight unseen until she turns up at your hotel. Added to which she might want a drink or two and a 'modest' tip.
Not many places where you can get a romp in bed for $120/ hour.
Not many places where you can get a romp in bed for $120/ hour.We are not talking about other places. We are talking about Thailand. What you pay in other places is completely irrelevant. Especially considering the local min wage is 300 Baht a day.
I have come up with a simple solution that I will use next time I go to Addict. With the full lineup in front of me I will ask the mamasan to dismiss the girls who don't DFK, then the girls who won't give BBBJ, then the girls who won't do MSG, and finally the girls who won't rim. My guess is there will be no one left. If there is I will partake knowing that the gals will deliver as it would be a huge loss of face not to. If not I will tell the mamansan this is why her biz is flagging.I would love to have ringside seats when the long overdue culling of the ridiculously over-inflated line-up at Addict is reduced to the probable handful (if any are left at all) of actual performers. Sometimes the line-up there encircles the whole room but in my and others experience, you could count on the fingers of one hand the amount of girls there willing to put in a real shift.
We are not talking about other places. We are talking about Thailand. What you pay in other places is completely irrelevant. Especially considering the local min wage is 300 Baht a day.Just because the minimum wage is Baht 300/ a day does not make it illogical for WGs to charge Baht 3000/ hour. It is somthing called market forces and the global flow of information. Nothing you and others moan about on this thread can influence this. Bear in mind Bangkok is a tourist centre for Japanese all eager to try a Thai WG. We are not talking about local expat regulars who, were I in their shoes, I would have met up with a friendly f*ck for the price of a meal and drinks. And an enhanced taxi fare home.
I had a nice threesome with Focus and Yaya. Focus is very service orientated and everything is on the list. Even lesbian action. Yaya looks better than on the photos and prefers A+ over normal sex.
My next target will be Rose and ZaRa from Bongkot. Anyone has tried one of them?
Just because the minimum wage is Baht 300/ a day does not make it illogical for WGs to charge Baht 3000/ hour. It is somthing called market forces and the global flow of information. Nothing you and others moan about on this thread can influence this. Bear in mind Bangkok is a tourist centre for Japanese all eager to try a Thai WG. We are not talking about local expat regulars who, were I in their shoes, I would have met up with a friendly f*ck for the price of a meal and drinks. And an enhanced taxi fare home.Does it make it illogical for them to try to charge this? No. Is is still kind of daft for dudes to pay this? Absolutely. Really? Of course we can. We are the market. And right now almost all venues are hurting. Why? High prices and poor service.
Just because the minimum wage is Baht 300/ a day does not make it illogical for WGs to charge Baht 3000/ hour. It is somthing called market forces and the global flow of information. Nothing you and others moan about on this thread can influence this. Bear in mind Bangkok is a tourist centre for Japanese all eager to try a Thai WG. We are not talking about local expat regulars who, were I in their shoes, I would have met up with a friendly f*ck for the price of a meal and drinks. And an enhanced taxi fare home.On the "worse service, more cost" issue bemoaned by some long time Bangkok punters, I see very little downside for me as a result of Japanese tourists supposedly over-paying. If they really do over-pay all that much or all that reliably often in the first place, that is. Highly doubtful, based on what I hear from girls who take the occasional Japanese customer. The customer two steps ahead of me, Japanese or not, might give a girl 5,000 baht for something I know I can get from that same girl for 2,000 baht. But before she has a chance to count his baht 5,000 baht up to 4 it has already disappeared into a black hole of partying or ATM transfers to boyfriends, husbands, possibly moms tending to their kids, if any. They are just as broke and in need of my 2,000 baht on Friday as they were for his 5,000 baht on Thursday.
Where I notice a downside for me is when I follow too many low demand customers. Low demand customers to far more harm to the next guys in line than supposedly over-paying customers, IMO. And in that regard, I believe the Japanese tourist is a primary culprit. Again, based on what I hear from girls who go with them often enough. Those dudes are more likely than most to take a girl and do virtually nothing with her, ask virtually nothing of her for the next couple of hours other than sit next to them in a disco or watch over them after they pass out on the bed in a smoke and alcohol induced stupor. Yet they will still pay them as though they'd gotten the best boom-boom or BJ in town.
There is no learning curve for a girl who expects to get 5,000 baht for what I and most reading this will only pay 2,000 baht. That chump either walks into the bar or shop and calls her over or not. But there is a learning curve for tricky ways to get out of doing anything much yet still get paid. The pained look, the stall, the feigned confusion and non-existent misunderstanding, the "I never do, I don't like, I cannot" bit, the seemingly purposefully lousy skills and phony inability to adjust, the "please don't tell mamasan or I will lose my job and my baby will starve" bit after they dish out crap service and so on are all learned behaviors and prepared responses by girls who think they've got a good shot at being paid at least a decent amount of money for doing very little if anything at all. And they believe that because they have been blessed with too many low demand customers willing to teach them how it is done and too few with the nerve to call them on it and in some way penalize them for it.
Does it make it illogical for them to try to charge this? No. Is is still kind of daft for dudes to pay this? Absolutely. Really? Of course we can. We are the market. And right now almost all venues are hurting. Why? High prices and poor service.I have to agree with you both.
The market forces decide the price. In fact, if the girls can charge 3000 baht per hour is because they get enough payer to support that level of compensation.
I have to agree the service offered are going down ill because women are been spoiled with high prices. In their thinking goes something in the line like this "ho, I can get lot with doing less, great!
I'm preaching in all my publications this.
"You can get more with less".
The industry is changing, more and more tourists are pouring in and they are well informed where to go thanks to internet.
However, there are still many good places where you can get good service at seasonal prices. These places are warship by residents and not tourist. Did I say enough?
PerezPerez
11-05-15, 06:20
Dear fellow members and seniors, I am new to this forum. Although I have read both the threads of Tulips only and except Tulip, I was not sure so I am requesting suggestion. I will be in BKK soon for few days, I am looking for some recommendation based on current scenario. As things changes, so does the girls, so does their service level. If I have to keep top 4 priority in the Oilies for PSE. Which place or person should be.
My experience from last few trips at Oilies:
I have been to Cherry on my last trip in August, taken Focus, She is not a looker may be 4/10, body 6. 5/10, slim & tight, as someone from this forum recommended I went for her. Same work flow as any other oilies, but she was chatty, enthusiastic and eager to please, took from her back door without any hesitation and like a true champion. Any position I like she obliged. As I took her for 2 hours, and already shot my second load, I didn't thought the third time would be possible, but she was really eager and did everything she could by her mouth, hands and holes to get me off the third time. Never happened before for me 3 time in 2 hours. Total cost 2400 at counter and Tip 200. If looks not a big factor and service matters I can recommend her.
Next was Premier 101, this one was also recommended by few people. I can't remember her name for sure but something like Angie or Angel. It was an evening around 8 pm, I showed up there. Went through the album they presented. Most looked higher quality or class then other places, but not sure as they P.S. Too much on the photos. So asked them to get me someone younger, slim and not given birth. So they introduced me this girl, who I immediately selected, as her looks, height, features everything was exactly what I wanted. Went upstairs, and while chatting came to know, she mostly serviced the Japanese, customers and can speak Japanese too. She said the westerners didn't prefer her as she have fair skin. Anyway it was not so interesting at the beginning and not a PSE experience. But man oh man, what a body and face. After I gave her a long and skillful DATY she said she came, and her lower abdomen was shaking and so was her legs. Took rest for a while then went to cleanup. Now something happened I didn't expect. She was totally changed, looked happy, energetic and more willing, this session was totally different, somewhat like a PSE and GFE mixed. Overall my best oily experience so far. Total 2600 and Tip 500. She might be different for different person, and her service too. So if looks, figure and class matters I can recommend her.
Thanks in advance.
Does it make it illogical for them to try to charge this? No. Is is still kind of daft for dudes to pay this? Absolutely. Really? Of course we can. We are the market. And right now almost all venues are hurting. Why? High prices and poor service.If I had to guess, It would be supply and demand. I know people like to say that "This is Thailand," but I just don't think even Thai markets can escape supply and demand. The supply of talent is low and the demand is too high.
Supply low:
-Might be the sponsoring that goes on. The best / most-popular girls will get sponsored / married / move-in with a punter full time. This is no different than when they get barfined in-advanced via phone and you never get to see them dance anymore. Only the meh quality girls are left. I was at Soi Cowboy last night and nothing I liked was there. A lot of slightly overweight 6's.
-Better education and low unemployment means money isn't as important for survival. A lot of girls work in P4 P because of the need for money, not because they are just some callous gold digger.
-Asian female crisis in China and Japan. Many Thai girls are finding husbands from Japan and China because of the gender population issues in China, and the high income expectation Japanese women have on men (Japan has had a poor middle class economy for decades).
-The only places that seem to have decent looking women also have women from Myanmar / Cambodia / Laos working there (which is supposed to be illegal and the police are "supposed" to crack down on that).
Demand High:
-Demand is high from the internet / information age. I think it used to be a few people punters were in Thailand. Once that all became publicized it grew more and more, bringing in larger amounts of tourist from all countries.
-Thailand is a safe and known sex tourist area. It's safe, unlike say Laos which could be a bad idea to stay in for P4P.
Does it make it illogical for them to try to charge this? No. Is is still kind of daft for dudes to pay this? Absolutely. Really? Of course we can. We are the market. And right now almost all venues are hurting. Why? High prices and poor service.Time to move on. For some curious reason you argue that prices are high and service poor. Was ever thus in the world. In reality in my view based on long experience in most cases the service at the better class paces is better and the prices commensurate with that service. There is a wider variety; WGs are better educated and more sophisticated.
Time to move on. For some curious reason you argue that prices are high and service poor. Was ever thus in the world. In reality in my view based on long experience in most cases the service at the better class paces is better and the prices commensurate with that service. There is a wider variety; WGs are better educated and more sophisticated.Some of us could care less whether the WGs we see are educated or sophisticated. What we look for in WGs are good-looking girls who give good service, not intellectual conversation. Although I may be a bit more moderate, but only a bit, than Goatscrot in my view of how things have evolved in the P4 P scene in Bangkok over the last ten or more years, I tend to agree with him about the decline in service and looks, at least at those places us farangs generally frequent (don't know about the places that employ the better educated and more sophisticated WG's, nor, I suspect do many of us in this forum). On the other hand, with regard to the PSE oilies, while this decline in service and looks has occurred to an extent, I do think some of us tend to idealize what they were like years ago. But the PSE oilies are one sector of the market where there has not been significant inflation.
Time to move on. For some curious reason you argue that prices are high and service poor. Was ever thus in the world. In reality in my view based on long experience in most cases the service at the better class paces is better and the prices commensurate with that service. There is a wider variety; WGs are better educated and more sophisticated.Oilies and soapies are virtually the same price that they were years ago. There was a 100 Baht tax instituted in about '06 or so, but other than that no real increase. As far as the quality, I can't comment on the soapies, although I really doubt that any of the really hot pricey gals there would attach themselves like a sea lamprey to my rice exit, blow bubbles with my emission, talk nasty and tell me of her desires and exploits, get me off three times in two hours, or beg to be taken in the keister. If that is what you mean by price being commensurate with service, then point me to the venue and sign me up. I'm willing to part with my 6 K at that point for the looker.
The PSE oilies have seen a decline in the overall price / value matrix so to speak over the past few years. Tulip and Bongkot still provide consistent excellent service, but almost all of the gals are nothing to look at and some are just, well, frightening. The other PSEs are a bit iffier and when you head to Addict you have no idea what you are going to get. Standards there really don't exist.
GoGos. I haven't bothered in years. Cowboy has been on the decline since the Arab bought his first bar, Midnight.
As far as FLs are concerned I would say quality is way down compared with 10 years ago. Why? Because there are far more well paying "regular" jobs available to gals these day. My thoughts are quite the opposite of yours. I find fewer well educated WGs. Back in day there were lots of office gals that went out a few times a month to supplement their incomes. Now very few. They don't need to anymore. What we are left with is the least common denominator. Those who don't want a "regular" job and those who are not qualified or can't hold a regular job. Sophisticated? In LOS? You have got to be kidding me.
LittleBird
11-05-15, 10:59
I feel that nowadays the girl who has pretty face and nice body can easy get customers through her smartphone or laptop. No need to work for any center anymore. She just throw some info online or other kind of ads and get customers can afford the price she's asking for. The one who had her and felt satisfy can introduce her to other men he knows. So with this process she can have enough customer to stay away from any kind of service (soapy oily go go or even escort). Imagine she has about 100 frequent guests so each day she can get 200 $ in few hours and spend the rest of day to do other thing she wants or go to collage / uni if she hopes for bright future.
Oilies and soapies are virtually the same price that they were years ago. There was a 100 Baht tax instituted in about '06 or so, but other than that no real increase. As far as the quality, I can't comment on the soapies, although I really doubt that any of the really hot pricey gals there would attach themselves like a sea lamprey to my rice exit, blow bubbles with my emission, talk nasty and tell me of her desires and exploits, get me off three times in two hours, or beg to be taken in the keister. If that is what you mean by price being commensurate with service, then point me to the venue and sign me up. I'm willing to part with my 6 K at that point for the looker.
The PSE oilies have seen a decline in the overall price / value matrix so to speak over the past few years. Tulip and Bongkot still provide consistent excellent service, but almost all of the gals are nothing to look at and some are just, well, frightening. The other PSEs are a bit iffier and when you head to Addict you have no idea what you are going to get. Standards there really don't exist.
GoGos. I haven't bothered in years. Cowboy has been on the decline since the Arab bought his first bar, Midnight.
As far as FLs are concerned I would say quality is way down compared with 10 years ago. Why? Because there are far more well paying "regular" jobs available to gals these day. My thoughts are quite the opposite of yours. I find fewer well educated WGs. Back in day there were lots of office gals that went out a few times a month to supplement their incomes. Now very few. They don't need to anymore. What we are left with is the least common denominator. Those who don't want a "regular" job and those who are not qualified or can't hold a regular job. Sophisticated? In LOS? You have got to be kidding me.You complain about prices and the lack of standards that you were used to. IMHO it is the fault of the punters that haven't caught up with market conditions and are looking for prices that might have been valid 10 years ago. Everything in Bangkok has become more expensive and to talk about an average wage of 300 Baht a day which is the absolute minimum wage as the benchmark is sheer ludicrous. The girls do the job because they want to make substantially more than that. And if they cannot make this money in Thailand they just go abroad. Where are all the superstars? A lot of them are working in Korea and Singapore these days where they can earn their FU money in one or two years and then leave the business.
You complain about prices and the lack of standards that you were used to. IMHO it is the fault of the punters that haven't caught up with market conditions and are looking for prices that might have been valid 10 years ago. Everything in Bangkok has become more expensive and to talk about an average wage of 300 Baht a day which is the absolute minimum wage as the benchmark is sheer ludicrous..When I started driving £1. 00 bought you five gallons of petrol; now £1. 10 buys you a litre. I accept that, live with it and recognise "things have changed". I wish I had kept records of my first trip to Bangkok but, even on my low salary I had a ball. One all nighter cost me a cheap meal and a taxi home. Probably no more that £4-5.
But I do not bewail the fact that I have to now spend Baht 2500 of an FL. And pay an oily girl Baht 1500 for a BJ and possibly sex.
I will be back shortly to enjoy young flesh without complaining!
You complain about prices and the lack of standards that you were used to. IMHO it is the fault of the punters that haven't caught up with market conditions and are looking for prices that might have been valid 10 years ago. Everything in Bangkok has become more expensive and to talk about an average wage of 300 Baht a day which is the absolute minimum wage as the benchmark is sheer ludicrous. The girls do the job because they want to make substantially more than that. And if they cannot make this money in Thailand they just go abroad. Where are all the superstars? A lot of them are working in Korea and Singapore these days where they can earn their FU money in one or two years and then leave the business.As I stated in the post below. I would have no issues paying more money for great looks and better service. What bothers me is paying more for less; which seems to be the norm. And yes, I blame the punters for not demanding good service, not complaining when they don't get it, and in general accepting what they get no matter how good or bad it is. It is funny but dudes don't seem to do that with any other service. Only P4 P.
Wolvenvacht
11-05-15, 14:30
Upon the advice of EiHTooms I decided to take a look at the Soi Cowboy establishments. (. . .)
I stayed there for a hour or so and almost bar fined one of the providers there. Before committing I decided to check out Crazy House first.Going to look for an even better opportunity in the next bar or club, is the ideal recipe for going home alone and getting frustrated.
After a few minutes of watching my eyes met with a smoking hot natural curved hotty. After all of the rejections encountered I figured this chick was probably booked by some Japanese dude or the like.You think and assume too much. If she's on the stage, chances are overwhelmingly good that she's still available.
I bought her a drink and had her attention for a few minutes. This was now 2:30 am. I asked her what time this closes and she replied 4:00 am. Then she went on to state how exhausted she was and was going to have to continue to dance. After she went back on the stage, I realized that I was going to need at least $3000.00 bhats or so.Who cares when the bar closes? Or did you try to avoid paying a barfine? Anyhow, 2:30 is already very late. Personally I find that most of my barfines happen between 10 and 11 PM. Then neither she nor I are exhausted and I have a fair chance to get two pops out of my LT before going to sleep and one more in the morning.
Regardless of the outcome from this place, I have to say meeting a friendly down to earth 8. 5 was so, so very refreshing after days of disappointments that I now have hope that they do exist.I do hope your "luck" continues, but I do have to say that I do not understand all these complaints about lack of quality in agogo clubs, oilies, soapies or bars. So far on this trip (which sadly is drawing to a close now) I have partaken of Eden Club, Suzi Wong, Snowwhite, Sayuri (Chiang Mai) and Soi 6 (Pattaya) and never was I disappointed. And I may say that my standards have increased since I hooked up with a Thai GF from Chiang Rai I met on "Thai Friendly" and when we're together she keeps me sexually occupied almost night and day.
Have I just been lucky? I doubt it.
Is it due to my "perfect game"? I wish it was, but I'm 56 years old (but I look younger, my GF says), I'm at least 10 kg overweight and balding. However I'm easy going and take the dice the way they fall. Perhaps, if you just expect good things to happen to you, it actually does.
Hi everyone!
Here in Bangkok for a quick business trip. I have been to Bangkok a few times before.
I read a very online favorable article about a Japanese style soapy called Mitu.
Anyone ever try or know about this place? I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't reading a fluff piece.
Hi everyone!
Here in Bangkok for a quick business trip. I have been to Bangkok a few times before.
I read a very online favorable article about a Japanese style soapy called Mitu.
Anyone ever try or know about this place? I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't reading a fluff piece.I tried it on my last trip and was underwhelmed by the experience. The entrance is really nice and you need to choose the girl looking at the pics on an ipad. I went early afternoon around 3 pm and there wasnt much of a choice available. The service from the girl I picked was nothing to write home about. I would not return to the place.
I hope I don't get nailed for this, but I was hoping for some quick recommendations.
I have read the forums in the past, but there are SO many places and venues in Bangkok to research that I had usually given up and just hung out at Soi Cowboy.
But this time I am curious. I want to check out a soapy. Can anyone recommend the "best" ones? Since I am not here long term, I am not concerned with finding the best value per se. I would actually prefer a little higher end as long as its not too crazy a splurge.
I have read back on ISG as well as some other websites. One recommended Mitu. Most recommend Nataree, though most admit that it is a little worn down. I was thinking of checking out Emmanuelle or Poseiden.
And although I don't think it would be my cup of tea, I would like to at least eyeball a BJ club just once. Is there a classic one? I have only heard of BJ Salon.
I was also thinking of checking out the proverbial "ping pong ball" club. Is there a classic that isn't a cash grab?
Lots of questions, I know. Just a little overwhelmed by the vastness of options.
As I stated in the post below. I would have no issues paying more money for great looks and better service. What bothers me is paying more for less; which seems to be the norm. And yes, I blame the punters for not demanding good service, not complaining when they don't get it, and in general accepting what they get no matter how good or bad it is. It is funny but dudes don't seem to do that with any other service. Only P4 P.The 300 baht a day minimum wage is at least partly relevant. What kind of jobs do you think most of these girls would be doing if not working in P4 P? If the price of an oily went up from at 2300 for 90 minutes to 3000 tomorrow, do you think service levels would increase suddenly? Or would they remain the same, with the girls knowing full well that no one ever really complains or few actually directly demand good service as they would have to in a high end club serving local clientele. The price structure as it is provides the opportunity for girls who are known to provide good service to make in excess of 7 figure baht incomes per month. I work with many Thai people daily who have worked hard to earn good qualifications and work long hours who don't earn anything like that.
I hope I don't get nailed for this, but I was hoping for some quick recommendations.
...And although I don't think it would be my cup of tea, I would like to at least eyeball a BJ club just once. Is there a classic one? I have only heard of BJ Salon.
I have no recommendations for the soapies or ping pong ball shows. But for a shot at the best BJ bars in the city, I would steer you to:
1. Kasalong Bar. The better line up is the pre-6 PM daytime shift, but YMMV.
2. LOL-ita's. It has to be typed something like that or the site will only post it as a "Code Word". The better line up is the post-6 PM evening shift, but YMMV here too.
Both of those BJ bars are located on a tiny sub-soi that runs between Soi 8 (turn right at the first 7-11 as you walk away from Sukhumvit Road on Soi 8, close to Exit 4 BTS Nana Station) and Soi 6 (turn left essentially at the only tiny soi you can turn left on as you walk away from Sukhumvit Road, same Exit 4 on the BTS Nana Station as above but walking in the other direction when you get to the sidewalk). Kasalong Bar has the newer and better facilities, BJ cubicles with an actual door while LOL-ita's is hobbled, imo, by an out-dated and, for me, less comfortable setting where the regular BJ deed is done while sitting on a restaurant style booth behind a curtain in a room full of booths behind curtains. Both bars have private Short Time rooms available for 900-1000 baht more than the usual 800 baht BJ service with a bed, separate shower and toilet.
3. For perhaps the most relaxed, experienced and expertly managed service of all the BJ bars, I would recommend Som's Haven on a small sub soi just off to the right of Soi 14 across from Terminal 21 mall at Sukhumvit / Asok (BTS and MRT trains meet across the road at Sukhumvit and Asok). It might not have the cute young lookers found at Kasalong Bar and LOL-ita's, or rather as many, but owner / mamasan Som genuinely wants to make sure you get what you wanted when you climb the stairs to one of their cubicles or Short Time rooms.
I hope I don't get nailed for this, but I was hoping for some quick recommendations.
I have read the forums in the past, but there are SO many places and venues in Bangkok to research that I had usually given up and just hung out at Soi Cowboy.
But this time I am curious. I want to check out a soapy. Can anyone recommend the "best" ones? Since I am not here long term, I am not concerned with finding the best value per se. I would actually prefer a little higher end as long as its not too crazy a splurge.
I have read back on ISG as well as some other websites. One recommended Mitu. Most recommend Nataree, though most admit that it is a little worn down. I was thinking of checking out Emmanuelle or Poseiden.
And although I don't think it would be my cup of tea, I would like to at least eyeball a BJ club just once. Is there a classic one? I have only heard of BJ Salon.
I was also thinking of checking out the proverbial "ping pong ball" club. Is there a classic that isn't a cash grab?
Lots of questions, I know. Just a little overwhelmed by the vastness of options.For a high end soapy I recommend Lord. You'll pay high end prices (5 k-10 k) but girls are quality.
The 300 baht a day minimum wage is at least partly relevant. What kind of jobs do you think most of these girls would be doing if not working in P4 P? If the price of an oily went up from at 2300 for 90 minutes to 3000 tomorrow, do you think service levels would increase suddenly? Or would they remain the same, with the girls knowing full well that no one ever really complains or few actually directly demand good service as they would have to in a high end club serving local clientele. The price structure as it is provides the opportunity for girls who are known to provide good service to make in excess of 7 figure baht incomes per month. I work with many Thai people daily who have worked hard to earn good qualifications and work long hours who don't earn anything like that.In excess of 6 figure baht incomes per month. Not 7!
Eric Swiss
11-06-15, 11:43
I woke up feeling like wanking off and then I thought. Wait, this is Bangkok, why don't I pay someone to do it for me instead? Given that I'd had a mind-blowing session with Sandy at Addict recently, I had to come up with another idea, so I went to Analisa.
At first the Mamasan was trying to say just take Nicky. I insisted on seeing the full line-up and 3 other girls showed up. One was fat / ugly, and the other two were more interested in their oversized iPhones than in me. Nicky was giving them dirty looks sideways to stay away from this customer. So I played along and asked the Mamasan whom she recommended, and she said Nicky again. At this point I took her up. Nicky seemed eager enough. But I think this little game-playing helped motivate her to give her best performance.
To put it simply, her fingers are magically soft. My feet are ticklish, but she managed to massage them without problem, which is quite exceptional. I've caught her unawares a couple of times, and her attention was fixated on me and my skin as intensely as a brain surgeon performing a delicate operation. Or Alfred Brendel playing a Mozart piano concerto. She is completely immersed in the moment and the massage. This is how she knows where to put her fingers.
Anyway, after "the flip", she put her finger exactly where it needs to be put, and slowly brought up my excitement level. Some girls take the cheap route and wank off your knob like crazy with a perfunctory finger lazily slid up your sphincter, but that's just a regular hand job with decoration. No, Nicky really wanted to give me a fully prostate-driven orgasm. It took longer, also partly because I was pretty drunk, but in the end I screamed louder than I ever had. She even asked me later if I had pain, to which I responded with a smile: no only pleasure.
Anyway, I don't know at what school they teach girls how to do these kinds of things, but I am thankful the knowledge has not been lost. Would I repeat? Hell yeah! I am even considering booking her by phone in advance next time, which is not something I usually do.
The 300 baht a day minimum wage is at least partly relevant. What kind of jobs do you think most of these girls would be doing if not working in P4 P? If the price of an oily went up from at 2300 for 90 minutes to 3000 tomorrow, do you think service levels would increase suddenly? Or would they remain the same, with the girls knowing full well that no one ever really complains or few actually directly demand good service as they would have to in a high end club serving local clientele.Same location, same girls, higher rates, you'll still get the same service. New location, better appointed, new girls, new quality standards and higher prices, then the old standards will up their game and their prices to remain competitive.
FernandoAlonso
11-06-15, 14:30
This place has been well prescribed before, just be aware if you approach it you will see it branded as Ocean, if you miss the clue like I did and walk by, you can still see the old Colonze sign from the other side. Thai logic.
Line up at 5 pm was meh. Sideliners even more meh and the models upstairs not remarkably better in quantity and quality. Prices start at 1700 which is cheap but the service mirrors that. Nothing remains from the idea of a soapy where the washing is the ouverture to a sensual steamy session. This is wash, bang, thank you mam all in about 60 minutes. The lady was young and nice enough and as said for the price there is little to complain. Place is easy reached by MRT Thailand Culture Centre. Try the food court in the BigC on the 10 minute way or do your groceries (good excuse if you not travel alone, honey I buy some beer and snacks, it is hot and you are tired. Just wait hotel for me555).
When I left at 6:30 numbers of SP had gone up so the recommendation to come between 5 and 6 pm to get a better model selection did not apply that day.
This is my first time in Bangkok and as much as I am enjoying it I had higher expectations towards looks, attitude and training in basically every venue so far. Bangkok may still be the sex capital of the world but nowhere near the good old days as they were reported to me.
FA.
NopoProwler
11-06-15, 15:17
Hey guys,
Been to the oilies recently and here are my FRs:
1. Dream Heaven 24-1: Yaya.
Yaya is a very short tanned girl from Laos. She tries to be nice but we don't want that nice, right? Problem is her English in next to nil so it was impossible for me to convey what I like and what I want. She hace nice tits and OK face but to me she was too petite, no DFK, no anal and she was on her period. I give her a 5/10 because she tried but she obviously wasn't trained by the best. Room is so so but we all now it could be worse, right?
2. Dream Heaven 24-1: Mimi.
Mimi was mentioned by another member in a post by the name "ass man". Mimi's English is quite good so I could tell her my preferences. She doesn't usually do anal but she said I could do her in the ass to finish. Like our colleague described, she has a nice complexion with a big butt and thunder thighs. Waist up she's quite skinny and I liked her tits as well. Her performance is good though not astonishing (maybe because she understood me and knew what I wanted), GFE without DFK (if such a thing exists), no PSE and I give her a 7/10 just because she was quite cool herself.
3. Mango Massage: Kim.
Overall good. If you don't mind heavily photoshopped photos then you won't have an issue (I kinda did, I get great expectations way too easily). I pretty much called and booked her based on her pictures (also, because Nana and Prae had the day off) but when I got there I was kinda let down but went with it anyway since I made the trip. Her English is quite decent so I talked to her about the way I like things and she obliged with a smile. Enjoys DATY with heavy fingering. GFE kissing but no DFK. Good anal and one thing that I liked is her saying "yeah yeah oh yeah" with every (other) thrust. In her ass.
Now here's one thing that to me makes a huge difference to me: language. If you can't communicate what you want then she's going to follow her procedure, right? Because she ain't no mind reader! Friends of mine (mostly Chinese tho) so to oilies and come back with stories of how bad the girl was or that she didn't do something he liked and I ask them "did you tell her, dawg?
Anyone have different experiences with this or other ladies from these oilies? I heard Prae from Mango is a little mechanical and I kinda want to try Nana someday. I was told Patty from Dream Heaven is quite a looker but she is retired. Anyone tried Nisa at EZ1?
Cheers,
N
Same location, same girls, higher rates, you'll still get the same service. New location, better appointed, new girls, new quality standards and higher prices, then the old standards will up their game and their prices to remain competitive.Actually it has not really worked that way. When it comes to oilies more venues has led to fierce competition for girls which in turn has led to slackening performance standards as places scramble to keep girls. One way is to let them dictate service levels.
Actually it has not really worked that way. When it comes to oilies more venues has led to fierce competition for girls which in turn has led to slackening performance standards as places scramble to keep girls. One way is to let them dictate service levels.Just speculation on my part. From what I gather, most of the oilies fall in the same class, no place that's really a standout in all regards. They keep operating with only minimal improvements and upkeep. When new places open up, they setup like all the other places. Fresh paint, newer furniture, but still business as usual.
What I'm suggesting is, if someone opened a better class of oily, something opulent and extravagant, then brought in only the best talent and insisted on top notch performance, all at a higher rate, it would revitalize that sector. Some of the existing oilies would continue as usual, but they would be unable to raise prices. Some oilies would remodel, make changes and try to compete. Isn't that what happened with the gogos several years ago? It just took 1 or 2 and suddenly there were a dozen.
Just speculation on my part. From what I gather, most of the oilies fall in the same class, no place that's really a standout in all regards. They keep operating with only minimal improvements and upkeep. When new places open up, they setup like all the other places. Fresh paint, newer furniture, but still business as usual.
What I'm suggesting is, if someone opened a better class of oily, something opulent and extravagant, then brought in only the best talent and insisted on top notch performance, all at a higher rate, it would revitalize that sector. Some of the existing oilies would continue as usual, but they would be unable to raise prices. Some oilies would remodel, make changes and try to compete. Isn't that what happened with the gogos several years ago? It just took 1 or 2 and suddenly there were a dozen.There are the PSE oilies, the Addict / Boss types, and then the more Japanese oriented shops.
I think your idea would be great, however I just don't think you would be able to get really great looking gals to work there and perform all the wonderful nasty acts we so enjoy. Why? Because there is a huge stigma associated with them and Thais are still quite conservative. If they performed all the perverted things we desire they could not keep work in a box. Stunners that you see at places like The Lord are not going to gargle with your semen while singing the latest Thai pop hit. We can always dream though.
Isn't that what happened with the gogos several years ago? It just took 1 or 2 and suddenly there were a dozen.What happened with go gos several years ago? Suddenly there were a dozen doing what? Using Coyote girls? Some go gos may have superior looks compared to the average, but there is little guarantee of service. I had very few really bad girls for service from Sheba, but it closed down. Rainbow 4 was renowned for bad service. Crazy House is very hit and miss. Some good girls but the best looking with good service rarely seem to last long.
What happened with go gos several years ago? Suddenly there were a dozen doing what? Using Coyote girls? Some go gos may have superior looks compared to the average, but there is little guarantee of service. I had very few really bad girls for service from Sheba, but it closed down. Rainbow 4 was renowned for bad service. Crazy House is very hit and miss. Some good girls but the best looking with good service rarely seem to last long.With the gogos, it's not specifically about the quality of service you get. The gogos today are making more of their money in-house, rather than relying on BFs. That wasn't always the case. There are plenty of guys who are happy to sit and spend and buy drinks while surrounded by beautiful nude or provocatively dressed women. Service is not as important as the overall atmosphere. Why try to get a 600 baht BF for a girl when that same girl might convince a drunk tourist to spend 6000, or 20,000?
Ultimately, any of the businesses will only provide the level of service they think is most profitable.
Simon Wagstaff
11-07-15, 13:46
I must admit that I was in Bangkok for the first time a few months ago, first thing we did was head to Soi Cowboy, and went to Crazy Horse. I couldn't figure out what the deal was. My friend and I got a beer and were shown upstairs. I guess there were some girls dancing on stage, that didn't seem to be anything important. There were a couple of naked Thai girls kind of prancing about, one sat on my lap for a minute and then took off to another guy. There was never an opportunity to tip, no sales pitch, couldn't really approach the dancers on the stage. I couldn't figure it out. What is supposed to go on there?
I found my personal piece of Thai heaven at the Beer Garden. That I could figure out.
I must admit that I was in Bangkok for the first time a few months ago, first thing we did was head to Soi Cowboy, and went to Crazy Horse. I couldn't figure out what the deal was.You need to look up the acronym RTFF, or if you are that clueless send a PM (as in private message) to someone. Maybe they will help.
With the gogos, it's not specifically about the quality of service you get. The gogos today are making more of their money in-house, rather than relying on BFs. That wasn't always the case. There are plenty of guys who are happy to sit and spend and buy drinks while surrounded by beautiful nude or provocatively dressed women. Service is not as important as the overall atmosphere. Why try to get a 600 baht BF for a girl when that same girl might convince a drunk tourist to spend 6000, or 20,000?
Ultimately, any of the businesses will only provide the level of service they think is most profitable.Absolutely correct. I was there a few weeks ago and I noticed the mad rush for drinks. I spent quite a bit of money one night without realizing it. They could have padded my bill as well. Became very careful about how much I spend in GoGo bars after that. So, I am not sure if this is a good business model long term.
EmptyBigWallet
11-07-15, 21:52
I hope I don't get nailed for this, but I was hoping for some quick recommendations.
I have read the forums in the past, but there are SO many places and venues in Bangkok to research that I had usually given up and just hung out at Soi Cowboy.
But this time I am curious. I want to check out a soapy. Can anyone recommend the "best" ones? Since I am not heroe long term, I am not concerned with finding the best value per se. I would actually prefer a little higher end as long as its not too crazy a splurge.
I have read back on ISG as well as some other websites. One recommended Mitu. Most recommend Nataree, though most admit that it is a little worn down. I was thinking of checking out Emmanuelle or Poseiden.
And although I don't think it would be my cup of tea, I would like to at least eyeball a BJ club just once. Is there a classic one? I have only heard of BJ Salon.
I was also thinking of checking out the proverbial "ping pong ball" club. Is there a classic that isn't a cash grab?
Lots of questions, I know. Just a little overwhelmed by the vastness of options.I have not been to geisha massage on soi 33 in a while. It's was a nice cozy small place. Guitar and ice were my favorite. Guitar was always late because, but she was a looker. Last time I saw her was about 5 years ago. Wonder where she is? Some of the girls are still there, but a little fatter and older. The one with the large tattoos was still there several months ago. She almost took me uncovered. Nice DFK.
Ez massage. Some girls are not on web page. Many of girls will ask me how many times can I come in 2 hours? Gift is my favorite for service.
I hope I don't get nailed for this, but I was hoping for some quick recommendations.
I have read the forums in the past, but there are SO many places and venues in Bangkok to research that I had usually given up and just hung out at Soi Cowboy.
But this time I am curious. I want to check out a soapy. Can anyone recommend the "best" ones? Since I am not here long term, I am not concerned with finding the best value per se. I would actually prefer a little higher end as long as its not too crazy a splurge.
I have read back on ISG as well as some other websites. One recommended Mitu. Most recommend Nataree, though most admit that it is a little worn down. I was thinking of checking out Emmanuelle or Poseiden.
And although I don't think it would be my cup of tea, I would like to at least eyeball a BJ club just once. Is there a classic one? I have only heard of BJ Salon.
I was also thinking of checking out the proverbial "ping pong ball" club. Is there a classic that isn't a cash grab?
Lots of questions, I know. Just a little overwhelmed by the vastness of options.Go to the Lord. Price is around 6 k baht, give or take 500 baht. Service and looks quality are top notch. I went last week for the second time and can still recommend it if you don't care about price.
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