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Christmas has no special meaning in Thailand. For them it is a purely commercial thing. I have been in Bangkok on Christmas day and all shopping malls were open. Most countries treat Christmas as another day to provide services.
Even the Philippines, a mostly Catholic country where Christmas is celebrated both piously as a serious religious festival and commercially (with the longest shopping period ever), all malls still open at 12 noon and stay open until 9 pm. Burgos is still fully open, as are most other bars etc. Most SE Asian places are the same, and you can bet the soapies/oilies will also be open as W said.
Angel Massage was fucking terrible. Wasted 2000 Baht because I wanted a massage with HJ but they told me 800+ 1000 for HJ and +1500 for full service. So I figured might as wel just do 1500. Then I said OK I want 2 hours. And she tells me "You only get 1 shot in 2 hours. Not 2. OK?" Well, what if the girl wants to give me two shots in two hours? Like who the fuck is she to say what the girl can do behind closed doors?
It didn't matter Anyways because not only did they have no girls who they featured on the website, but after I picked my girl, who looked decent with clothes on, took her clothes off and revealed a stomach that looked like it was all stitched up, and her fake boobs where her implant was half deflated. Such a turn off and I couldn't even get 1 shot in. Never going back to Angel Massage ever again.
Rajesh,
If you do not like the girls looks or behavior in your Hotel room, give the girl "taxi money" and open the door to hasten her exit.
Based on your report, it was evident in the first 10 minutes (after her arrival) this would not be a good experience. A 100 Baht loss is better than a 3000 Baht loss.
Live and learn!
~BKKguru.
This is a FR of the recently promoted "Momo" at mango massage. She was heavily advertised as new girl, good massage etc. Her photos didn't look half as bad as well. And as I was particularly keen on not sleeping alone. I picked her for overnight. Was feeling particularly excited esp since I had visited cherry the 2 nights before and had superb service. Expectations were a bit high I have to admit. Lest did I know, the horrors that would partake by choosing this girl.
She arrived 10 minutes late.
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20 year old (she claims).
Face: 4/10.
Body: 4/10.
Attitude: 0/10.
BJ: 2/10.
Massage: 2/10.
WIR: Definitely not.
I'm a 26 year old reasonably fit bloke. This is the worst experience I've had.
Like who the fuck is she to say what the girl can do behind closed doors?A pimp. She is a pimp, with a PHD in pimpin hoes.
Asian Rain
07-07-16, 08:47
Angel Massage was fucking terrible. Wasted 2000 Baht because I wanted a massage with HJ but they told me 800+ 1000 for HJ and +1500 for full service. So I figured might as wel just do 1500. Then I said OK I want 2 hours. And she tells me "You only get 1 shot in 2 hours. Not 2. OK?" Well, what if the girl wants to give me two shots in two hours? Like who the fuck is she to say what the girl can do behind closed doors?
It didn't matter Anyways because not only did they have no girls who they featured on the website, but after I picked my girl, who looked decent with clothes on, took her clothes off and revealed a stomach that looked like it was all stitched up, and her fake boobs where her implant was half deflated. Such a turn off and I couldn't even get 1 shot in. Never going back to Angel Massage ever again.Pretty much sums up the complexities of running a McFuck joint. Still some guy who wants to customize his Big Mac. Two simple fixes to avoid such an experience. One, just state what service you want clearly like "I want HJ with two pops. How much? Two, ask the receptionist which girls have NO BABY. If they can't offer a price on the former or a girl without baby on the latter, then leave.
I have popped into Angel two times for lineup, both times asking for girl without baby. Each time only one girl could be produced and each time the body / face was not up to spec. There are a dozen more places within walking distance. No need to get stuck in one place. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
Angel Massage was fucking terrible. Wasted 2000 Baht because I wanted a massage with HJ but they told me 800+ 1000 for HJ and +1500 for full service. So I figured might as wel just do 1500. Then I said OK I want 2 hours. And she tells me "You only get 1 shot in 2 hours. Not 2. OK?" Well, what if the girl wants to give me two shots in two hours? Like who the fuck is she to say what the girl can do behind closed doors?
It didn't matter Anyways because not only did they have no girls who they featured on the website, but after I picked my girl, who looked decent with clothes on, took her clothes off and revealed a stomach that looked like it was all stitched up, and her fake boobs where her implant was half deflated. Such a turn off and I couldn't even get 1 shot in. Never going back to Angel Massage ever again.I had the same experience than you a few months ago, except that I changed my mind after the "only 1 shot". I went there because a girl that used to work in Cherry told me Angel massage has a lot of customers everyday so I was just curious about that place. The girl at the desk was rather rude and wanted to show me the girls directly, but I decided to have a look at the pictures in the book first, as in their site they advertise that they have a huge amount of girls. The book is full of girls pictures, maybe around a hundred, one of them looked very pretty, and by chance she was available. Her name is Sugar. So I had a look at the girls in the room and could not recognize her. Where is Sugar? In front of you. I looked again. Which one? She. WTF she showed me a girl nearly 50 years old and ugly as hell. If that girl and the one on the pic is the same, surely the pic was taken 30 years ago. Anyway I had a look at the lineup again and spotted a young and cute one (around 24-26 years old), so I decided to chose her. Then back at the desk to decide which massage. I want 2 hours oil massage. You can have one shot only. What do you mean one shot only? One shot. So what if I finish after 5 min? What am I going to with her for 2 hours? One shot. At that moment I decided to go see the girls in the nearby shops. By the look on her face she did not expect that move, and the poor little cute girl just saw her customer walk away because of that shitty policy. How can they offer 1 shot with so many ugly girls in their shop when you can get a multiple shots with some cute girls in shops nearby at the same price? And I also did not understand why we can chose up to 2 hours if we are allowed only 1 shot. Will not bother to go back there again in the future.
Thanks to this site's reports, I just wanted to make a quick report about Bongkot. I went there around 11 ish after dinner and quickly chose Ooi, (I'm sure I'm spelling it very wrong). The rooms are small like Tulip and nothing like those fishbowls like Poseidon.
Ooi is a smallish nymphette, about 25 and has no tits to speak of. Nice tight ass and very enthusiastic in the shower and bed. Great little fuck in pussy and ass, that PSE was definitely real with her. She speaks little to no English and the condoms used were too small. Luckily I had my own. I don't see her in the website so she could've been a temp. Thanks again ISG!Hey Pete, how was the body? Lots of baby damage or was it ok?
Hey Pete, how was the body? Lots of baby damage or was it ok?Not that I really delved in detail, but she had a tight tummy and didn't seem to have much post natal extra tissue. She just has very flat tits and speaks little to no english. Good luck and treat her well, and she'll reciprocate I'm sure. She doesn't mind dual hole action etc. Just bring a few condoms if you want that out of courtesy. The condoms provided are the 52 mm variety which can be uncomfortable.
Hi all,
I'm looking for a little advice. I am heading to Thailand arriving on the Thai Airways flight from London at 0615 in the morning on Tuesday December 27th. Its a flying visit to Thailand I know but I have 2 options. A quick trip or no trip.
What I would really like to do is have a a nice 2-3 hour multi shot session in Bangkok or Snow White and then head on down to Pattaya in the afternoon. I'll be travelling kind of light and I estimate that I will be in Asoke by about 9 am. What I would like is a hotel for a few hours sleep, maybe 9 -12, I don't mind checking out then as I can leave my bag in the hotel and head up to the oilies for a bit of fun. Can anyone help me out with ideas with accommodation? Will a hotel understand what I am on about not wanting to checkin until 9 am? Is there such a thing as a daytime hotel (not a short time hotel) ? As a related query, the oilies don't close over Christmas do they? I imagine it would be peak season. Would noon be a good time to hit Bongkot / Snow / Mango etc?The Holiday Inn is right opposite Bongkot. I imagine you'd be paying for day use or a day anyhow so may as well keep the room for the day and just check out when you are ready to leave. Now many hotels have a 2 pm check in so make sure you tell them you are arriving early and MUST have a room. Then you can go to Bongkot. However, at 12 most of the girls aren't going to be there. So you may want to contact the soapie for a booking or outcall. You have plenty of time to consult the good people here for suggestions. Good luck.
The Holiday Inn is right opposite Bongkot. I imagine you'd be paying for day use or a day anyhow so may as well keep the room for the day and just check out when you are ready to leave. Now many hotels have a 2 pm check in so make sure you tell them you are arriving early and MUST have a room. Then you can go to Bongkot. However, at 12 most of the girls aren't going to be there. So you may want to contact the soapie for a booking or outcall. You have plenty of time to consult the good people here for suggestions. Good luck.Thanks Pete. I stayed at that Holiday Inn before, In fact I stayed at the regency park on 22 and used to have a few beers in the bars that used to be opposite at the entrance to Washington square and watched them build that Holiday Inn.
Member #4591
07-09-16, 09:59
I would like to second Natty's recommendation on Lord. I am also pretty sure that Ae was the one who broke my Lord cherry last year. She was a sweet young thing. I looked for her on my 2nd visit but didn't see her, however ended up with an M girl that had a better connection with that I have seen outside now a couple times. I know from talking to my girl too that they keep a high standard of expectation for the girls, test reguarly, and treat the girls fair. Just the general attention to detail is nice, things like finding the tub already running when you get to room, sure it only saves maybe 5 minutes, but it shows the service level. Not finding a room, turning on ac, starting a tub like a suk massage place. And of course the added benefit of getting those credit card frequent flyer miles! Always makes me think I am one step closer to returning, hahaha.Bumping this to the proper thread. I'm looking for a auto show type pretty. Would any of the Lord girls fur the bill?
How can they offer 1 shot with so many ugly girls in their shop when you can get a multiple shots with some cute girls in shops nearby at the same price?Welcome to Thailand! Both Logic and situational awareness are not strong suits here. This lack of competitive business practice is really, really common. But then again, there are so many tourists who just bumble into the first place they see (or feel comfortable in) and accept whatever the price is. So it could just be that pricing / quality are not major factors in determining success when running these places.
Bumping this to the proper thread. I'm looking for a auto show type pretty. Would any of the Lord girls fur the bill?Lord certainly can produce beauties of the modelesque variety, complete with surgery enhancements. All upscale joints like Lord, La Defense and even Poseidon have the "model" option. Lord has a few mixed race girls as well which has always been a fetish of mine. That's the privilege of places like that, you can have a look at blow a 1 k on drinks and tip, and leave if you don't like the options. Dropping 8-10 k isn't surprising once you get into it.
Funny you should mention car show beauties. I've met one and am regularly seeing her. She speaks english well and very educated. But you have to enjoy the "graft" as it were, because it'll never be like charging it to Visa! Perhaps part of the GFE? LOL.
Member #4698
07-11-16, 16:27
Bumping this to the proper thread. I'm looking for a auto show type pretty. Would any of the Lord girls fur the bill?A couple of the Lord sideline girls might fit your "car show pretty" spec. The price will be 7,000 bt and up. But you never know. Perhaps some sexy "O" category girl will catch your eye and you will find your bliss for less. I do not know, but if I were you, I would check the Lord out. Nothing ventured nothing gained and if they don't have the kind of girl you are looking for, you can always leave.
Now to bump it back to the BKK reports section or not; I think you should also check out one or two G-Clubs. Try the Pimp Club first and maybe Sherbert on Ekamai on another night. I think you know the drill. This is no place for skimping or being frugal. If you are going to go, go all in, and be prepared to spend large. And above all else; have a great time! There is no entry fee at Pimp if you buy a bottle. There are many different price packages. For example one package offers a bottle of Grey Goose with all the mixes included for 4,500 bt. Girls will run you around 3,000bt per girl for a couple of hours of their company and in club entertainment. If you have a buddy in BKK; your best move would be to go together and share the fixed cost of the bottle.
I would check out a few places first, but membership does have its benefits. An annual 30,000 bt membership gets you 2 bottles of high quality liqueur of your choice that the club will store for you and membership instantly raises your status (probability of success) with the girls. Remember sexual liaisons are possible, but there are no guarantees. Figure another 5,000 to 6,000 bt for a sexual rendezvous. But once you found a G Club girl that you like, you can see that girl as often as you like without going back to the club.
And lastly on quality: its like anywhere else. It all comes down to the top 15%. I think that in the top 15% category you will definitely find the kind of "car show pretty" you are looking for. The other 85% are of no importance.
Stick reporting: Dr BJs will reopen under 'new management' this week as Blush Spa or Wood Bar.
SL.
Stick reporting: Dr BJs will reopen under 'new management' this week as Blush Spa or Wood Bar.
SL.Ha. "New management" . Probably really means new owners, as the original were kicked out and new money took over. Also, stickboy is not stickman, and just ripped off the name. He is practically a mouthpiece for certain connected industry owners (wouldn't be surprised if they took over Dr BJ).
Franciscass
07-14-16, 12:48
Ha. "New management" . Probably really means new owners, as the original were kicked out and new money took over. Also, stickboy is not stickman, and just ripped off the name. He is practically a mouthpiece for certain connected industry owners (wouldn't be surprised if they took over Dr BJ).Will be interesting to see the quality of the line up when it reopens. If its a reincarnation of the Annie's / Scot partnership expect a continuance of current policy re recruitment. Soi 7/1 is a really convenient location so hoping for a real change of ownership with an accompanying improvement in staffing.
SameerRokz
07-14-16, 19:04
Dear fellow mongers,
I will be in Bangkok tomorrow for 2 days and will be in Pattaya for other 2 days.
I request all fellow members please help me out with some reliable trustworthy escort service agencies in Bangkok and Pattaya.
Please PM details, your kind co operation will be highly appreciated.
Warm regards.
Sameer
Dear fellow mongers,
I will be in Bangkok tomorrow for 2 days and will be in Pattaya for other 2 days.
I request all fellow members please help me out with some reliable trustworthy escort service agencies in Bangkok and Pattaya.
I guess you missed this thread on ISG.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2454-Bangkok-Escort-Agencies
Crocodilexp
07-17-16, 00:08
Almost all the oily massage sites have been taken offline (outside of Thailand).
http://bongkotmassagesoi22.com/
http://snowwhitesoi26.com/
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/
http://sky-massage.com/
Only Mango is still up:
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/
Tulip never had a site.
Are these places still operating normally, and just found it prudent to remove their website, or is some sort of a wider crackdown under way?
Wolvenvacht
07-17-16, 08:34
Almost all the oily massage sites have been taken offline (outside of Thailand).
http://bongkotmassagesoi22.com/
http://snowwhitesoi26.com/
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/
http://sky-massage.com/
Only Mango is still up:
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/
Tulip never had a site.
Are these places still operating normally, and just found it prudent to remove their website, or is some sort of a wider crackdown under way?Cherry Massage is still up (or up again).
Sky and Snowwhite are still "down" with an "Under construction" message. They have the same provider (in Florida!), even share the same IP address. I doubt Police or Army could force these websites to go down against their will.
Bongkot has a Thai IP and provider and gives a "403 forbidden" errror which looks more serious. That site seems really down.
Christian G
07-17-16, 08:38
Almost all the oily massage sites have been taken offline (outside of Thailand).
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/ At the moment this one still working for me. But no girls's photo.
Asian Rain
07-17-16, 08:59
Take a look from this site http://bangkokredeye.com/bangkok-oily-massage-guide-reviews.html. Links at bottom of page. Some are up, but quite a few have just disappeared. The group below are blanked as well as the sites accessed from G-Diary (Boss, CanCam). Others are up like Addict and Amethyst. Something is amiss to see so many sites down, under construction, etc. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
Almost all the oily massage sites have been taken offline (outside of Thailand).
http://bongkotmassagesoi22.com/
http://snowwhitesoi26.com/
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/
http://sky-massage.com/
Only Mango is still up:
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/
Tulip never had a site.
Are these places still operating normally, and just found it prudent to remove their website, or is some sort of a wider crackdown under way?
Ralph Kramden
07-17-16, 15:38
A friend sent this mail to me this evening:
Just heard on the BBC. They are going crazy in Thailand. The tourism minister, a woman, wants to close down the brothels and massage parlors. She says she wants to.
Promote Quality Tourism.
What planet is she living on?
A friend sent this mail to me this evening:
Just heard on the BBC. They are going crazy in Thailand. The tourism minister, a woman, wants to close down the brothels and massage parlors. She says she wants to.
Promote Quality Tourism.
What planet is she living on?http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/thai-sex-industry-under-fire/news-story/e9763d458f870e8c64c616a34f23fcbf
SL.
I think these places mention took down their website to be safe. The nail that stands out gets hammered kind of situation in BKK. Are these places open? Well, I book a girl at Bongkot for this Wednesday, so it seems to be business as usual.
Take a look from this site http://bangkokredeye.com/bangkok-oily-massage-guide-reviews.html. Links at bottom of page. Some are up, but quite a few have just disappeared. The group below are blanked as well as the sites accessed from G-Diary (Boss, CanCam). Others are up like Addict and Amethyst. Something is amiss to see so many sites down, under construction, etc. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
Crocodilexp
07-17-16, 20:17
I doubt Police or Army could force these websites to go down against their will.Recent website changes seem to be self-imposed, not blocked, especially given that Cherry removed the "ladies" page (the only one worth checking! And left the rest of the site up. Probably happened on advice from their government contacts. Weird to see them all change at once, Thais are normally not too quick in changing websites.
Wolvenvacht
07-18-16, 07:28
Recent website changes seem to be self-imposed, not blocked, especially given that Cherry removed the "ladies" page (the only one worth checking! And left the rest of the site up. Probably happened on advice from their government contacts. Weird to see them all change at once, Thais are normally not too quick in changing websites.Yes, someone must have tipped them off. For sure it is no coincidence that these websites get cleaned up shortly before the declaration of the Minister of Tourism.
"Batten down the hatches", but this storm will blow itself out as all the previous ones did.
Recent website changes seem to be self-imposed, not blocked, especially given that Cherry removed the "ladies" page (the only one worth checking! And left the rest of the site up. Probably happened on advice from their government contacts. Weird to see them all change at once, Thais are normally not too quick in changing websites.Yeah they're pretty lazy people. Except when it's their own ass on the line LOL. Then suddenly it's no longer mai bpen rai.
Brothers,
Was planning a mongering trip in September.
Would appreciate your realistic views on ground reality.
Thanks in anticipation.
Have fun.
I'm heading out in December 26th and have seen nothing to put me off. This will all blow over in a few weeks and everything will be back to normal.
If worst comes to worst, I have a phone with plenty of contact details of the superstars past and present around Suk. I'm sure they will still be about.
Brothers,
Was planning a mongering trip in September.
Would appreciate your realistic views on ground reality.
Thanks in anticipation.
Have fun.
Member #4591
07-19-16, 05:20
Brothers,
Was planning a mongering trip in September.
Would appreciate your realistic views on ground reality.
Thanks in anticipation.
Have fun.Guys nothing will change too much! Maybe we will see a decline in P4 P offered on the premises and that should be the case. I for one am excited about this change. Soi Cowboy and Nana will always be here since no sex is on the premises, just girls working in the bars. They will have to cut out the nude or topless dancing though. The massage girls will flock to the go go bars and the freelance scene will increase 10 fold. Chat apps will be flooded with freelancers looking for customers and all will be normal. Normal bars will see a huge influx in business so the balance will be set and all will be happy. Any massage places will start to operate underground like in most countries. Who cares, compensate and enjoy Thailand, the girls are not going anywhere.
FreeMonger
07-27-16, 19:22
Mitu massage is the best I dunno the current scene in BKK but have they shifted?
Guys nothing will change too much! Maybe we will see a decline in P4 P offered on the premises and that should be the case. I for one am excited about this change. Soi Cowboy and Nana will always be here since no sex is on the premises, just girls working in the bars. They will have to cut out the nude or topless dancing though. The massage girls will flock to the go go bars and the freelance scene will increase 10 fold. Chat apps will be flooded with freelancers looking for customers and all will be normal. Normal bars will see a huge influx in business so the balance will be set and all will be happy. Any massage places will start to operate underground like in most countries. Who cares, compensate and enjoy Thailand, the girls are not going anywhere.When will bars have to cut out nude and topless dancing? Is this immediate or far off? Has it actually happened?
Mitu massage is the best I dunno the current scene in BKK but have they shifted?Today I went to Mitu but unfortunately there were only 2 girls available at the time. I agree this is a quality but expensive choice. Previous girls have been young, very beautiful and exceptionally good service. I've been 3 times before and never had a bad experience.
Cherry.
Not really into the oily massages so much but did got to two this week. First was Cherry after a cheery and reasonble looking girl gave me the "Hello! Where you go?" As I walked past.
Went inside and got the line up but went with Hello, girl, Bebe. The rooms at this place are pretty grubby in my view but oh well, you get what you pay for 😀.
In the room Bebe was a super sweet girl. As is the norm she cleaned me head to toe, then on to the bed and she asked if I wanted sex first which I accepted. It actually didn't get that far because she blew me to completion. It's rare that a woman has the oral skills to do this for me so I was impressed to say the least.
Onto the oil massage which was pretty decent and after some time she started a slippery body slide which woke me up again. Soon after the condom went on and we had sex in multiple positions for maybe 20 minutes but I know I could not fire again wihout more time (I had a 90 min booking) despite her being a happy and vigorous participant. So I elected to stop the action and shower again before I went on my way. I was very happy with her service.
Be and be entertainment massage.
I think I got the name right but it's on the same street as Cherry.
I was on my way back to Cherry today after a fruitless night last night and got bailed up by another Hello, girl. ParkVille, if you're reading this, yes I can say no to Hello, girls, sometimes they are just charming enough that I want to see more.
Inside be and be I got the line up and picked a young girl who was both beautiful and gave me warm smile at the intro. Ploy was her name and she is a 22 yo Uni student who only works 3 days a week, so she says.
In the rooms, and they're nothing flash, Ploy was also super sweet. Shower blah blah blah and lots of DFK then onto the bed for a reasonable oil massage which on the flip became a good BBBJ. I only had 60 minutes this time so on went the condom and she was a snug fit. Not being one to come quickly usually, I was surprised she got me over the line in a little over 10 minute.
You never know how much of what these girls say is true but Ploy appeared quite smart and amibitious. She claims to have not been working long and had exclusively been with Japanese and Chinese customer until now. That probably explains the snug fit 😀. Cruel I know. Anyway, Ploy was a passionate performer I'd take her again.
Member #4591
07-31-16, 14:16
One week before on the 24th, I decided to pop into Snow White on Soi 26. The line up was pretty krap for 6 PM on a Sunday. Anyways, out of the corner of my eye, I spotted a cute little bird with white skin and an amazing chest. It turns out she was 22 from Isaan and her name was Ninja. Beautiful rear end, beautiful man mades, multiple positions, lovely from behind, and just a sweet heart to talk with. No baby and a very firm stomachs and beautiful to see in forward cowgirl. She won't last long guys, so take advantage. Photo from chat.
Service: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Atitude: 10/10.
Repeat: Hell yes!
Very nice girl, Bkkdog. A+ I assume? I wouldn't worry too much about her not lasting long as SW has a few new cuties in. Hopefully they can keep them coming.
Member #4591
07-31-16, 16:09
Very nice girl, Bkkdog. A+ I assume? I wouldn't worry too much about her not lasting long as SW has a few new cuties in. Hopefully they can keep them coming.I'm not a fan of A+.
One week before on the 24th, I decided to pop into Snow White on Soi 26. The line up was pretty krap for 6 PM on a Sunday. Anyways, out of the corner of my eye, I spotted a cute little bird with white skin and an amazing chest. It turns out she was 22 from Isaan and her name was Ninja. Beautiful rear end, beautiful man mades, multiple positions, lovely from behind, and just a sweet heart to talk with. No baby and a very firm stomachs and beautiful to see in forward cowgirl. She won't last long guys, so take advantage. Photo from chat.
Service: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Atitude: 10/10.
Repeat: Hell yes!Well yes good looking for a SW girl. However other things are generally more important at SW. Service and attitude which were great.
I have not done a SW girl for quiet a while now I think unless Alzheimers has taken over. I can only remember really memorable girls now. OK I remember I tried Benz or Belle and now can't even remember the correct name. Was underwhealmed.
GoogleMail1954
07-31-16, 19:23
Hi,
I'm new. Anyone got anything to say about bangkokbustyescorts? Susie caught my eye in particular but doesn't seem to be many reviews / comments about them / her.
Thanks.
Wolvenvacht
07-31-16, 19:47
Hi,
I'm new. Anyone got anything to say about bangkokbustyescorts? Susie caught my eye in particular but doesn't seem to be many reviews / comments about them / her.
Thanks.You might get an answer if you post this in the "Bangkok Escort Agencies" section.
One week before on the 24th, I decided to pop into Snow White on Soi 26. The line up was pretty krap for 6 PM on a Sunday. Anyways, out of the corner of my eye, I spotted a cute little bird with white skin and an amazing chest. It turns out she was 22 from Isaan and her name was Ninja. Beautiful rear end, beautiful man mades, multiple positions, lovely from behind, and just a sweet heart to talk with. No baby and a very firm stomachs and beautiful to see in forward cowgirl. She won't last long guys, so take advantage. Photo from chat.
Service: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Atitude: 10/10.
Repeat: Hell yes!I would say far more of a GFE than a PSE. Skill set is ok, though I would not place it anywhere near the top. So not superstar material in my book. Looks are quite good though. DFK is nice, but BJ I would rate a 7 out of 10 at best. Not A+ at the current time. Repeat? At some point, but not is a real hurry. Too bad we don't have gals who look like this but perform like the old Tulip squad.
Member #4591
08-01-16, 12:51
I would say far more of a GFE than a PSE. Skill set is ok, though I would not place it anywhere near the top. So not superstar material in my book. Looks are quite good though. DFK is nice, but BJ I would rate a 7 out of 10 at best. Not A+ at the current time. Repeat? At some point, but not is a real hurry. Too bad we don't have gals who look like this but perform like the old Tulip squad.YMMV for sure because for me, her BJ was top notch. I was offered A+ but declined since it's not my thing.
YMMV for sure because for me, her BJ was top notch. I was offered A+ but declined since it's not my thing.Will have to give her another try. She was just into her second week when I had her. Guess she has improved. Also, I have only found about 4 gals out of the myriad I have had in the oilies that could get me off orally. So getting anything above an 8 is difficult. Only Tom / Min from Tulip / SW and Pim from Tulip would ever rate a 10 from me.
Member #4591
08-02-16, 04:29
Will have to give her another try. She was just into her second week when I had her. Guess she has improved. Also, I have only found about 4 gals out of the myriad I have had in the oilies that could get me off orally. So getting anything above an 8 is difficult. Only Tom / Min from Tulip / SW and Pim from Tulip would ever rate a 10 from me.I don't want her to get too popular and jaided. Dam ISG! LOL. The things I do for my brotherin.
I don't want her to get too popular and jaided. Dam ISG! LOL. The things I do for my brotherin.They either take to it or they don't. If they don't, they are gone in a few months. Some are just not cut out for it. Gals like Pond could take on four dudes a day and still be amazing for the last guy.
I must say the Snow has the best looking lineup amongst the PSE shops these days. Ninja is by far not the only new looker in there.
I've been RTFFing and haven't seen any reports of late about soapies. I have been to a soapy in a long while although I used to be an enthusiast. With the exception of Natalie, are the others BAU? I'm bringing a newbie to BKK next week and really want to treat him to a soapy.
Wolvenvacht
08-02-16, 19:29
I've been RTFFing and haven't seen any reports of late about soapies. I have been to a soapy in a long while although I used to be an enthusiast. With the exception of Natalie, are the others BAU? I'm bringing a newbie to BKK next week and really want to treat him to a soapy.And what might "BAU" mean?
And what might "BAU" mean?Business as usual.
Member #4591
08-03-16, 07:59
And what might "BAU" mean?Amsterdam is now my current soapie and Snow White is my favorite oily. Amsterdam is on Ratchada across from the Petchaburi Rd MRT stop and Snow White is on Sukhumvit Soi 26 about 20 meters down on your right hand side.
Amsterdam has a good variety of normal girls and models. Keep in mind you will pay 500 more if you are not Asian.
Maybe I'm going at the wrong times (I usually go in the afternoon), but every time I've gone to Amsterdam, there's only about 10 girls there. And the mamasans / papasans there are quite rude if I walk out without choosing anyone. Do you usually go at night?
Amsterdam is now my current soapie and Snow White is my favorite oily. Amsterdam is on Ratchada across from the Petchaburi Rd MRT stop and Snow White is on Sukhumvit Soi 26 about 20 meters down on your right hand side.
Amsterdam has a good variety of normal girls and models. Keep in mind you will pay 500 more if you are not Asian.
Member #4591
08-03-16, 17:30
Maybe I'm going at the wrong times (I usually go in the afternoon), but every time I've gone to Amsterdam, there's only about 10 girls there. And the mamasans / papasans there are quite rude if I walk out without choosing anyone. Do you usually go at night?The girls are quite busy so you need to sometimes wait a few minutes to see who comes out from the back.
Member #4591
08-03-16, 17:43
Wow she is a looker. How do and where do I find her ?I received this PM today. I don't know how I can help this guy. I posted her photo, name of the massage shop, the location, and her age.
One week before on the 24th, I decided to pop into Snow White on Soi 26. The line up was pretty krap for 6 PM on a Sunday. Anyways, out of the corner of my eye, I spotted a cute little bird with white skin and an amazing chest. It turns out she was 22 from Isaan and her name was Ninja. Beautiful rear end, beautiful man mades, multiple positions, lovely from behind, and just a sweet heart to talk with. No baby and a very firm stomachs and beautiful to see in forward cowgirl. She won't last long guys, so take advantage. Photo from chat.
Service: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Atitude: 10/10.
Repeat: Hell yes!Some members really need to read the threads before sending a PM or posting questions. We post our reports so people can read.
Wolvenvacht
08-03-16, 18:54
I received this PM today. I don't know how I can help this guy. I posted her photo, name of the massage shop, the location, and her age.
Some members really need to read the threads before sending a PM or posting questions. We post our reports so people can read.Bkkdog, what a novel concept! Actually reading the reports. What will you think of next?
These "manager" types need to be spoon-fed and hand-held to the spot. Then they will probably ask your assistance to put their dick in the chick.
Qiuckly now, why are you still dallying? Shake a leg, your help is required urgently.
I don't want her to get too popular and jaided. Dam ISG! LOL. The things I do for my brotherin.Well, tried her again and I must say that I found the experience just as meh as the first time. Skill set is just not all that and she is missing that all important nastiness that I enjoy. Don't get me wrong; she is a very nice girl who is polite, funny, and has a good disposition, but that is not what I look for in a PSE oily session.
Let me contrast her with a couple of things about some of my all time favorites. First a Tulip gal; when she and I would enter the grungy rooms in Tulip she would pull her pants down, climb on the bed on all fours, spread her ass, and bark, "eat my ass. " Wonderful. Once I was entering Tulip and she was coming downstairs with a very old dude and she came up and grabbed me and whispered in my ear, "Take me and f*ck me hard. This old guy could not make me come. " And of course I obliged her. That time when we got to the room she pulled my pants down and told me to f*ck her mouth. Once she told me of the time she had a DP with two Korean guys. What a gal. Another Tulip gal asked me to "f*ck her ass hard" as she went after her clit aggressively with a vibrator. Told me not to come until she did. Took about 15 min of intense action before she found release. One of my fav SW gals used to leave her high heels on and position herself to blow me on all fours so that her ass was in full view of the mirror and that I had a perfect view of both her holes. She would gaze in the mirror to see my reactions as well. Also liked very heavy action in all holes, and really preferred to be taken in the rice exit as opposed to the snatch. I could go on about the countless Tulip, and early Mango and SW gals. Apple, Cherry, Bo, Ann, Pond, Cream, Momay, etc. I just don't find gals like these anymore, even in the PSE joints. It is all quite tame compared to what it used to be. The last two of my regulars left last year. In the year since I have not found anyone even close to a replacement. Ninja is nice gal, but nowhere near that league performance wise.
Member #4591
08-05-16, 17:19
Well, tried her again and I must say that I found the experience just as meh as the first time. Skill set is just not all that and she is missing that all important nastiness that I enjoy. Don't get me wrong; she is a very nice girl who is polite, funny, and has a good disposition, but that is not what I look for in a PSE oily session.
Let me contrast her with a couple of things about some of my all time favorites. First a Tulip gal; when she and I would enter the grungy rooms in Tulip she would pull her pants down, climb on the bed on all fours, spread her ass, and bark, "eat my ass. " Wonderful. Once I was entering Tulip and she was coming downstairs with a very old dude and she came up and grabbed me and whispered in my ear, "Take me and f*ck me hard. This old guy could not make me come. " And of course I obliged her. That time when we got to the room she pulled my pants down and told me to f*ck her mouth. Once she told me of the time she had a DP with two Korean guys. What a gal. Another Tulip gal asked me to "f*ck her ass hard" as she went after her clit aggressively with a vibrator. Told me not to come until she did. Took about 15 min of intense action before she found release. One of my fav SW gals used to leave her high heels on and position herself to blow me on all fours so that her ass was in full view of the mirror and that I had a perfect view of both her holes. She would gaze in the mirror to see my reactions as well. Also liked very heavy action in all holes, and really preferred to be taken in the rice exit as opposed to the snatch. I could go on about the countless Tulip, and early Mango and SW gals. Apple, Cherry, Bo, Ann, Pond, Cream, Momay, etc. I just don't find gals like these anymore, even in the PSE joints. It is all quite tame compared to what it used to be. The last two of my regulars left last year. In the year since I have not found anyone even close to a replacement. Ninja is nice gal, but nowhere near that league performance wise.Well that's a little over the top. I will say, she never did those things with me either. Did you try and initiate anything more? I don't want to keep saying YMMV but that could be the case. Maybe she felt more comfortable with me and was able to loosen up sexually. Yes she is not vocal when it comes to starting something but for me, her performance was stellar. Anyways, remember Pim from Tulip and she was more about what you are talking about now with me. Too bad she married an Indian dude and stopped working.
Well that's a little over the top. I will say, she never did those things with me either. Did you try and initiate anything more? I don't want to keep saying YMMV but that could be the case. Maybe she felt more comfortable with me and was able to loosen up sexually. Yes she is not vocal when it comes to starting something but for me, her performance was stellar. Anyways, remember Pim from Tulip and she was more about what you are talking about now with me. Too bad she married an Indian dude and stopped working.Pim was sexually charged to the nth degree. That girl could come and come. Told me on her off days she would masturbate two to three times. Her Indian husband must have some stamina to keep up with her. Also gave an amazing BJs. One of the few that have been able to make me come orally. Never became a regular because I just did not find her that attractive.
Interesting that almost all of the gals I was with back in the states were very vocal, very open, nasty, and fun. Thai gals for the most part are very conservative sexually. Even the working girls. Amazing that they have had so many partners, yet really don't know that much about the male or even their own anatomy. I have had a few gals who could bring me to the brink and back again several times without eliciting a pop, but those have been few and far between. The few regulars I have had became regulars because they were constantly adding to their skill set. One of my favs, who has since moved on, had a new trick every time I was with her, which was about once every 6 weeks or so for about 5 years.
Well that's a little over the top. I will say, she never did those things with me either. Did you try and initiate anything more? I don't want to keep saying YMMV but that could be the case. Maybe she felt more comfortable with me and was able to loosen up sexually. Yes she is not vocal when it comes to starting something but for me, her performance was stellar. Anyways, remember Pim from Tulip and she was more about what you are talking about now with me. Too bad she married an Indian dude and stopped working.You must realize that Goatscroat expects something completely different to what others like me look for. He looks for extra special skills that very few Thai girls have. Me, I don't care much about skill set if she can give an acceptable soft slow BBBJ.
I look for girls willing to give great GFE and have fun. Its conceivable that girls I like and have chemistry with would have no chemistry with someone demanding all sorts of special services.
I tried one of the Snow White superstars by reputation and her looks were barely acceptable to me including fake tits, probably fake nose too. The service was not special, not particularly GFE. Very "meh" for me. Would not repeat.
We have to understand that ISGers have completely different requirements and taste. My favorite stunner from Crazy House gives me a very good fun time. She is only very part time as has studies to attend to. Fortunately I can contact her. The fact that her BBBJ is fairly weak and she does not have any training, and is inexperienced, is of no consequence to me at all. She is just gorgeous and can play the wicked naughty girl just a little, as she knows her body is worth showing off, but far from a porn star in any way, certainly not "nasty". She can be passionate. She seems to like good sex a lot. A bit of a "screamer" (loud moaning) in the room. However she is not trying to make a "service" as such. She just does what is fun for her. I would not even consider giving her up. She is prettier than the majority of Escort Site pics for my taste, even with teeth braces. Customers agree. She never available for more than a few minutes maximum. Always called to customer almost immediately. When she got rainbow coloured hair, it made no difference. Still stunning.
For me its just stunning girls that can make a good fun time. Very much the same as what Natty Bumpo goes for, but I maybe even more fussy for natural model looks. The exact price is not a major consideration, so for sure I do not look for cheap bargains. My big problem is to find stunning model girls without nose and tit jobs, and not scared of cock. Obviously porn star shop girls are not likely to be scared of cock, but can't find many girls looking pretty enough, to excite me.
The obstacle to me doing Escorts is not so much the price, but that I am very fussy about looks, and fear the bait and switch from the agency or girls posting pics taken 10 years ago when their looks were vastly better. Also the chances of getting sillies or nose job is too high. I cannot take a girl that I have not seen properly. I would not want to meet the girl and send her away immediately. There do exist acceptable nose jobs, but its no more than 10% of them for me. Most girls look stupid or like aliens. Acceptable tit jobs exist too, but again a low portion of them. I also like to be able to check out a girl for some time before choosing, when I don't know them. Snap decisions are more risky.
Hence at Addict I got lucky with one really fun girl, another day got unlucky with a girl that looked good, but a dud. No time to check the character of the girl. I hate rushed decisions. At soapies I used to sit for ages watching the fishbowl girls carefully before deciding or asking reliable mamasan's opinion (at CP2), or calling girls out for a drink first. Annies is not like a real Soapy to me. It's closer to an Oily in style. They don't encourage guys to sit for ages gawking at the girls in the fishbowl. They call girls to a brief line up. In a real Soapy you can sit for a long time. The fact that Annies has a bath is of little relevance. Several Oily MPs have one. The "fish bowl" is of little consequence. It's true I did experience a papasan hassling me at Amsterdam. That was unacceptable so I told him to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off. In good Soapies, you can sit at a table and order food and drink, before you choose a girl, same as you can in good bars.
I like that Dr. BJ has a bar where can sit and order a drink while waiting for girl to be available, or even to arrive at work. LOL Can anyone tell me about consultant letter Z? No matter, I will try her in any case. Rather pretty on the web site. That is precisely what I look for.
I received this PM today. I don't know how I can help this guy. I posted her photo, name of the massage shop, the location, and her age.
Some members really need to read the threads before sending a PM or posting questions. We post our reports so people can read.That is why we should be selective about who we receive PMs from, personal friends makes sense. PMs from anybody is not desirable in my opinion.
When we rate girls, we should have a few criteria, where give points and can attach a comment:
1. Face, natural?
2. Body, Natural?
3. Enthusiasm. Scared of dick?
4. Chemistry and GFE (with kissing).
5. Skills and name the specific skills.
6. English ability and conversation.
That way I can give a girl, high marks in Categories 1 to 4 and very low marks in Category 5. Goatscrot can give a girl high marks in category 5 and low marks in categories 1 and 2. I left out massage because I don't even like a real massage. I try to avoid massage and hand jobs. I suppose we could rate girls for massage too, but I am there for mongering.
My most recent Snow White girl would be a 6, 6, 8, 5 (no real kissing), 7 for BBBJ (anal not offered), and no idea for English.
My Crazy House girl would be a 9, 9 (all natural beauty), 8, 9, Skills 2, and no idea for English but okay Conversation in Thai. No skills other than how to dance real sexy, but overall score for me is good.
June (ex Snow White) would be 7+, 8, 8, 9, 8 great BBBJ (and managed anal once), 7. Maybe not a super porn star but good all round performer.
When we rate girls, we should have a few criteria, where give points and can attach a comment:
1. Face, natural?
2. Body, Natural?
3. Enthusiasm. Scared of dick?
4. Chemistry and GFE (with kissing).
5. Skills and name the specific skills.
6. English ability and conversation.
That way I can give a girl, high marks in Categories 1 to 4 and very low marks in Category 5. Goatscrot can give a girl high marks in category 5 and low marks in categories 1 and 2. I left out massage because I don't even like a real massage. I try to avoid massage and hand jobs. I suppose we could rate girls for massage too, but I am there for mongering.
My most recent Snow White girl would be a 6, 6, 8, 5 (no real kissing), 7 for BBBJ (anal not offered), and no idea for English.
My Crazy House girl would be a 9, 9 (all natural beauty), 8, 9, Skills 2, and no idea for English but okay Conversation in Thai. No skills other than how to dance real sexy, but overall score for me is good.
June (ex Snow White) would be 7+, 8, 8, 9, 8 great BBBJ (and managed anal once), 7. Maybe not a super porn star but good all round performer.Nice rating system Syg. We should use this as a standard. I would also rate 5 as average.
Body is actually very important to me. More so than face. Namely I just don't like 'them after they have had a kid. "Mommy-body" just doesn't work for me. That used to be my first question when I went into an oily. Show me the gals "mai mi luk. " Was also one of my first questions in Thermae back in the day. Natural is not so important as long as the surgery has been well done. My Thai is good enough that I don't really need a gal who speaks English. Last SW gal would be a 6. 5, 7, 6, 6, 5. 5 (BBBJ average, I was "too big" for anal), 7 (conversation all in Thai but fun). For reference I would rate June 7, 7, 8, 8, 7 (BBBJ was enthusiastic but toothy), 7. Best I have had at an oily would have been Cherry at Mango and she would have rated 9, 9 , 9, 8, 9, 8.
That is why we should be selective about who we receive PMs from, personal friends makes sense. PMs from anybody is not desirable in my opinion.Sorry guys in advance for hijacking the forum for a personal message.
Syzygies Hey- I have been trying to PM you for awhile but your PM is blocked. Coming back to BKK next month and looking to catch up. PM me since I can't send messages to you.
Lurking this forum for about a year, I finally had the opportunity to go mongering in SEA. I was in Vietnam for several weeks with work prior to this.
First day in Bangkok today. I am staying at a hotel nearby the Nana Plaza area. I wished I booked a hotel closer to the Nana Plaza itself. The main room from my hotel to the area is always full of traffic. I can walk faster than the hotel shuttle can drive.
I went to Chrome, formerly Dr. BJ, for a nuru massage. Best massage ever. I didn't get the girl's name. I don't think they have a number system, I just picked the girl I liked the most. She jumped up with all smiles when she was chosen. She about 5'4", thick in the right way, and very light skin. She said she's full Thai, but I don't think so. Basic English but very cute in the way she speaks. Her enthusiasm is through the roof. She really went out of her way to make me feel good. I recommend this place. I tipped her well for making me very happy.
Sorry guys in advance for hijacking the forum for a personal message.
Syzygies Hey- I have been trying to PM you for awhile but your PM is blocked. Coming back to BKK next month and looking to catch up. PM me since I can't send messages to you.Ok fixed. I will start my Bangkok reports soon. About to return. My Crazy House waitress awaits me eagerly. LOL I hope my hotties are around.
Nice rating system Syg. We should use this as a standard. I would also rate 5 as average.
Body is actually very important to me. More so than face. Namely I just don't like 'them after they have had a kid. "Mommy-body" just doesn't work for me. That used to be my first question when I went into an oily. Show me the gals "mai mi luk. " Was also one of my first questions in Thermae back in the day. Natural is not so important as long as the surgery has been well done. My Thai is good enough that I don't really need a gal who speaks English. Last SW gal would be a 6. 5, 7, 6, 6, 5. 5 (BBBJ average, I was "too big" for anal), 7 (conversation all in Thai but fun). For reference I would rate June 7, 7, 8, 8, 7 (BBBJ was enthusiastic but toothy), 7. Best I have had at an oily would have been Cherry at Mango and she would have rated 9, 9 , 9, 8, 9, 8.I had Cherry at Mango regularly too. No anal though. I have her photo or two.
7, 8, 8, 8, 8. Face cannot really be a 9 but well above average. Good all round girl. Cat was prettier though, but body less good.
Crocodilexp
08-10-16, 10:32
When we rate girls, we should have a few criteria, where give points and can attach a comment:
1. Face, natural?
2. Body, Natural?
3. Enthusiasm. Scared of dick?
4. Chemistry and GFE (with kissing).
5. Skills and name the specific skills.
6. English ability and conversation.
My most recent Snow White girl would be a 6, 6, 8, 5 (no real kissing), 7 for BBBJ (anal not offered), and no idea for English.
Great idea, but in order to make it more readable, I'd suggest prefixing the numbers. So, instead of "5, 6, 7, 8, 9", let's do "Face:5, Body:6, Energy:7, Chem:8 (explanation), Skills:9 (explanation), English (10)".
A review is written once, but read 1000 times, so the effort is worthwhile, otherwise all the readers need to refer back to some interpretation guide buried deep in the thread (and we'll have to keep answering the "what do the numbers mean" questions over and over, even if it's in some FAQ).
In addition, it's less error-prone, and allows omitting some numbers (e.g. English) without messing up the rest.
To all this, I'd add the all-important price (all-inclusive, house+girl fee, but not any optional tip).
Great idea, but in order to make it more readable, I'd suggest prefixing the numbers. So, instead of "5, 6, 7, 8, 9", let's do "Face:5, Body:6, Energy:7, Chem:8 (explanation), Skills:9 (explanation), English (10)".).Guys! Wake up! Think about what you're proposing! Should we all carry clipboards? Have multiple colored pens in pocket protectors to color code responses? How about an ISO cert for one or another type sex? BJ 9001? Any sexual encounter is about as intimate as two human beings can get and it strikes me as just plain weird that anyone thinks the experience can be quantified in a way that another human would understand about "chem". I think you can convey much more with simple statements. Such as "she was average looking but gave me a blowjob that rocked my world and we ended up watching TV all night, in between fantastic bouts of sex in multiple positions."
Guys! Wake up! Think about what you're proposing! Should we all carry clipboards? Have multiple colored pens in pocket protectors to color code responses? How about an ISO cert for one or another type sex? BJ 9001? Any sexual encounter is about as intimate as two human beings can get and it strikes me as just plain weird that anyone thinks the experience can be quantified in a way that another human would understand about "chem". I think you can convey MUCH more with simple statements. Such as "she was average looking but gave me a blowjob that rocked my world and we ended up watching TV all night, in between fantastic bouts of sex in multiple positions. ".LOL. I agree. What possible value would this be to anyone other than it being an abbreviated version of one punter's impression of a girl. If a skillful BJ is important to me am I not supposed to bother taking a girl for whom so-and-so on a particular message board gave a 3 rating in that department? What if he gave her that low rating because she gave him a slow BJ (which I prefer) instead of a jackhammer rapid fire one (which I hate)?
And rating girls on looks is particularly worthless unless it is directed to the sight impaired among us having this board read to them by someone else. LOL. And then there is the issue of why a sight impaired punter needs a hot looking girl at all. Uh, can't we all look at girls' noses, faces, legs, waistlines, hairdos, etc. with our own eyes and judge for ourselves? Reporting on hidden major defects? Maybe worth a mention I suppose.
Not saying anyone shouldn't post those kinds of ratings or anything else that pleases them. But we ought to at least mention in passing the inherent flaws and silliness of it.
Manfield04
08-10-16, 18:07
Although assessing a commodity is a good idea, rating a sex experience is different in the sense that a face that I would rate 8 may be a 5 for someone else. Likewise, the chemistry with the a girl may be poles apart for two different punters.
Great idea, but in order to make it more readable, I'd suggest prefixing the numbers. So, instead of "5, 6, 7, 8, 9", let's do "Face:5, Body:6, Energy:7, Chem:8 (explanation), Skills:9 (explanation), English (10)".
LoveHole69
08-10-16, 18:58
Syzgies you were right about the bug in Thai but I thought it was just a common expression for those guys over there and people don't need to speak Thai.
I disagree with you saying most Thai ladies don't like or refuse huge cocks, I don't want to make assumptions but your comments sound like the things people who are slightly less lucky like to believe about or get told from women.
You should know what women say and what they really think are often not the same and if your Italian friend has a big one it can be an excuse they use not to provide certain services but you got to remember providing services and when ladies are enjoying it is a different thing.
I have a Calabrian friend much larger than me and he also has very few refusal except anal and has had plenty of petite ladies who more often than not seem surprised and shocked in an excited way when he gets out his Italian Rambo meat.
MichaelSamuel
08-11-16, 02:53
Haha, ISO Cert. I sort of like that idea. Can create that base minimum that many of us would appreciate. Sure, not every at bat is going to be a home run or a midfield goal (trying to be international here), but if there was a solid ISO standard at the MPs and Gogos, I think more punters would take a chance and walk away with at least a base level satisfaction. That and a mandatory customer relationship management course for industry employees would do wonders. That would look great in a course book at university. Hospitality 69 - Gogo Customer Relationship Management.
I do see value though in just the base numbers in addition to a normal review simply because as each of us has noted we look for different things. So even a stellar performance by a girl that doesn't have the looks may not work some of us. This would allow some discerning to our individual priorities.
Guys! Wake up! Think about what you're proposing! Should we all carry clipboards? Have multiple colored pens in pocket protectors to color code responses? How about an ISO cert for one or another type sex? BJ 9001? Any sexual encounter is about as intimate as two human beings can get and it strikes me as just plain weird that anyone thinks the experience can be quantified in a way that another human would understand about "chem". I think you can convey MUCH more with simple statements. Such as "she was average looking but gave me a blowjob that rocked my world and we ended up watching TV all night, in between fantastic bouts of sex in multiple positions. ".
Although assessing a commodity is a good idea, rating a sex experience is different in the sense that a face that I would rate 8 may be a 5 for someone else. Likewise, the chemistry with the a girl may be poles apart for two different punters.Agree. And even in the case of factors that might, but only might, lend themselves to something more quantifiable in terms of a rating, like "skills" rather than "beauty", don't we need to first establish what kind of blowjob and / or full service rates a 10 vs what kind rates a 1? I read some guys pooh-poohing the idea that CIM+Swallow or BBFS is necessary to be among the features of even a memorable GFE or PSE re those activities. Which is proof positive that one man's 10 might truly be another man's 1 even when we're talking about something somewhat more technical rather than based solely on personal opinion.
Agree. And even in the case of factors that might, but only might, lend themselves to something more quantifiable in terms of a rating, like "skills" rather than "beauty", don't we need to first establish what kind of blowjob and / or full service rates a 10 vs what kind rates a 1? I read some guys pooh-poohing the idea that CIM+Swallow or BBFS is necessary to be among the features of even a memorable GFE or PSE re those activities. Which is proof positive that one man's 10 might truly be another man's 1 even when we're talking about something somewhat more technical rather than based solely on personal opinion.And I think that is a good thing. Most of the regulars on this board know what the other regulars value and so we can judge from the ratings of like minded mongers whether we would like that particular gal.
Guys! Wake up! Think about what you're proposing! Should we all carry clipboards? Have multiple colored pens in pocket protectors to color code responses? How about an ISO cert for one or another type sex? BJ 9001? Any sexual encounter is about as intimate as two human beings can get and it strikes me as just plain weird that anyone thinks the experience can be quantified in a way that another human would understand about "chem". I think you can convey MUCH more with simple statements. Such as "she was average looking but gave me a blowjob that rocked my world and we ended up watching TV all night, in between fantastic bouts of sex in multiple positions. ".Most gals provide similar service to all their customers. Some will like it; some won't. I like the idea of a numbered rating system. In fact, when you look at the forum areas that have lots of SE Asian guys posting; they all rate with numbers. Of course those guys all have a pretty standard system and they all have pretty high standards and expectations. Especially the HK dudes from what I hear. If a gal does not do x and y the mamasan will get an earful and the gal will be blasted on the monger sites. Hence, most gals perform well. Too bad we Western guys don't do the same.
Haha, ISO Cert. I sort of like that idea.
That and a mandatory customer relationship management course for industry employees would do wonders. That would look great in a course book at university. Hospitality 69 - Gogo Customer Relationship Management.I'm sure we could find a few entrepreneurial members on this forum to set up an impartial QC agency operating in SE Asia. I would be happy to be a part of the field team for testing the consistency of providers performances.
Had a one day stop over on my way to Singapore. So decided to just visit MITU. Someone had a video direction to MITU so finding the place was easy. I think it was around 4 PM, so there were only two girls, and I chose one with Japanese sounding name (from a tab), but actually Thai. Very nice girl. I was offered a beer while waiting. The damage was 4 K+tip .5 K. Overall experience was excellent. I didn't had to ask or push for anything. Even after two cum, she was ready and was willing for third time. But I wonder, a 2.4 K soapy with 1 K tip would have given the same experience. The part I really liked here is the real warm nuru, and the nuru sex like you see in those videos. This was in May end, next trip in Sep. So might go back again.
Enjoy.
G'day lads. I popped in to Snow White on Monday evening around 8 pm. It was my first time there so things are a little fuzzy to begin with. I entered and was given a girl. She was OK. But I was hoping for more. So I asked for a line-up. They sent me through to the other room and there were 7 or 8 lovely ladies. There was one who looked particularly eager. So I chose her! I am sorry, but I have totally forgotten her name. I'm shit with names. She was average height, long black hair, very outgoing, with a pretty enough face (surgery) and some huge (not natural) knockers. In short, she looks like she was drawn by a 15 year-old boy.
In the room and she pulled out three condoms promising me that we would use all of them in the hour and a half.
I will spare you the gory details except to say that we used only two of the condoms. But I popped three times (one BBBJ). She was a real goer and did her best to make sure that I got the three pops off. Her massage skills were OK. But not important. Her blow job skills were first rate. Absolutely went for gold.
It was a real PSE (no kissing so much as licking tongues) and she really did everything she could to make sure I left the place happy. I gave her a small tip (200) and happily left into the night.
I would definitely go back if I was able.
Guys! Wake up! Think about what you're proposing! Should we all carry clipboards? Have multiple colored pens in pocket protectors to color code responses? How about an ISO cert for one or another type sex? BJ 9001? Any sexual encounter is about as intimate as two human beings can get and it strikes me as just plain weird that anyone thinks the experience can be quantified in a way that another human would understand about "chem". I think you can convey MUCH more with simple statements. Such as "she was average looking but gave me a blowjob that rocked my world and we ended up watching TV all night, in between fantastic bouts of sex in multiple positions. ".You over react and think too much.
All I think we should try to do is recognise that Goatscrot rates a girl for special skills and I rate a girl on completely different Criteria. Its very unlikely that Goat scrot and I will like the same girl unless she is a very rare super star in all aspects. It is very likely that Natty Bumpo and I will like the same girl because we look for very much girls of the same type based on similar Criteria.
So simply saying the girl or lousy in a review does not cut ot and is not very useful We need to say in what way she was great or lousy and why.
If a reader understands why a girl is chosen or not chosen the review becomes useful. There are plenty of posts not useful in any way whatsoever.
All I want is to read useful reviews of girls or venues. So I want to understand what the reviewer's criteria were to give an evaluation. It is aurprisi gly simolar to rating a Hotel to stay in. You have to give the good aspects and the bad aspects of a girl. If there is no point in reviewing aspects of a girl or venue, is the forum going to be useful at all.
Many of us would be completely disinterested in a write up of exploits of some member with no girls identified and no venues. It just becomes stories.
I just want data.
You over react and think too much.
All I think we should try to do is recognise that Goatscrot rates a girl for special skills and I rate a girl on completely different Criteria. Its very unlikely that Goat scrot and I will like the same girl unless she is a very rare super star in all aspects. It is very likely that Natty Bumpo and I will like the same girl because we look for very much girls of the same type based on similar Criteria.
So simply saying the girl or lousy in a review does not cut ot and is not very useful We need to say in what way she was great or lousy and why.
If a reader understands why a girl is chosen or not chosen the review becomes useful. There are plenty of posts not useful in any way whatsoever.
All I want is to read useful reviews of girls or venues. So I want to understand what the reviewer's criteria were to give an evaluation. It is aurprisi gly simolar to rating a Hotel to stay in. You have to give the good aspects and the bad aspects of a girl. If there is no point in reviewing aspects of a girl or venue, is the forum going to be useful at all.
Many of us would be completely disinterested in a write up of exploits of some member with no girls identified and no venues. It just becomes stories.
I just want data.Spot on Syg. I agree 100%!
You over react and think too much.
All I think we should try to do is recognise that Goatscrot rates a girl for special skills and I rate a girl on completely different Criteria. Its very unlikely that Goat scrot and I will like the same girl unless she is a very rare super star in all aspects. It is very likely that Natty Bumpo and I will like the same girl because we look for very much girls of the same type based on similar Criteria. -- So simply saying the girl or lousy in a review does not cut it and is not very useful We need to say in what way she was great or lousy and why. -- If a reader understands why a girl is chosen or not chosen the review becomes useful. There are plenty of posts not useful in any way whatsoever.
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I just want data.I'm not overreacting--I seldom do that. I am just stating a fact which you nicely reinforce. The basis of any numerical system is objective reality -- two or more people can look at the same info and agree on the observation and outcome. If " we should try to do is recognize that Goatscrot rates a girl for special skills and I rate a girl on completely different Criteria. Its very unlikely that Goat scrot and I will like the same girl unless she is a very rare super star in all aspects. It is very likely that Natty Bumpo and I will like the same girl because we look for very much girls of the same type based on similar Criteria. So simply saying the girl or lousy in a review does not cut it and is not very useful We need to say in what way she was great or lousy and why " then where can I find the data content? If you are saying that posters should be more specific about experiences, I agree. And I do think about lots of things, probably too much (Thank you for recognizing the nerd in me!
I cannot think of a better rationale for why a numerical system is a complete waste of time to develop and less than useful!
Member #4591
08-13-16, 06:38
I'm not overreacting--I seldom do that. I am just stating a fact which you nicely reinforce. The basis of any numerical system is objective reality -- two or more people can look at the same info and agree on the observation and outcome. If " we should try to do is recognise that Goatscrot rates a girl for special skills and I rate a girl on completely different Criteria. Its very unlikely that Goat scrot and I will like the same girl unless she is a very rare super star in all aspects. It is very likely that Natty Bumpo and I will like the same girl because we look for very much girls of the same type based on similar Criteria. So simply saying the girl or lousy in a review does not cut it and is not very useful We need to say in what way she was great or lousy and why " then where can I find the data content? If you are saying that posters should be more specific about experiences, I agree. And I do think about lots of things, probably too much (Thank you for recognizing the nerd in me!
I cannot think of a better rationale for why a numerical system is a complete waste of time to develop and less than useful!I think everyone concerned in the debate should go out, have a good session with a provider, come back here and report about. Useful reports for others to follow.
Spot on Syg. I agree 100%!I also totally agree the FR is useful only when you give your review about girl.
Most gals provide similar service to all their customers. Some will like it; some won't. I like the idea of a numbered rating system. In fact, when you look at the forum areas that have lots of SE Asian guys posting; they all rate with numbers. Of course those guys all have a pretty standard system and they all have pretty high standards and expectations. Especially the HK dudes from what I hear. If a gal does not do x and y the mamasan will get an earful and the gal will be blasted on the monger sites. Hence, most gals perform well. Too bad we Western guys don't do the same.Rating a girl is helpful for other members as it ensures minimum service from a girl.
G'day lads. I popped in to Snow White on Monday evening around 8 pm. It was my first time there so things are a little fuzzy to begin with. I entered and was given a girl. She was OK. But I was hoping for more. So I asked for a line-up. They sent me through to the other room and there were 7 or 8 lovely ladies. There was one who looked particularly eager. So I chose her! I am sorry, but I have totally forgotten her name. I'm shit with names. She was average height, long black hair, very outgoing, with a pretty enough face (surgery) and some huge (not natural) knockers. In short, she looks like she was drawn by a 15 year-old boy.
In the room and she pulled out three condoms promising me that we would use all of them in the hour and a half.
I will spare you the gory details except to say that we used only two of the condoms. But I popped three times (one BBBJ). She was a real goer and did her best to make sure that I got the three pops off. Her massage skills were OK. But not important. Her blow job skills were first rate. Absolutely went for gold.
It was a real PSE (no kissing so much as licking tongues) and she really did everything she could to make sure I left the place happy. I gave her a small tip (200) and happily left into the night.
I would definitely go back if I was able.Nice report. Snow White is great at the moment. Good lookers and good service.
I haven't seen many reports about this place so thought I'd add one as it's a little different to most of the Soi 24 and 24/1 places. Its just across Sukhumvit from Soi 24 in the sub Soi running parallel to Soi 39. You can find a map on their website. Last night, I'd done the rounds of all the places in 24 and 24/1, nothing had appealed so thought I'd give this place a try as I'd been meaning to for a while. The place has a very quiet, calm ambiance and definitely has the aire of a more Japanese style place, having said that, I was never made to feel unwelcome or awkward. They hand you a price list and a bunch of picture cards (details in Japanese). Usually in this situation, I ask to see the line-up as the pictures are usually heavily photoshopped in these places. They said I could see up to 5 in the flesh, so went through the pictures again to choose. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw my choices come out, especially having just been in Premier 101 where the girls aren't even close to resembling the pictures (in their defense, you can. And should. Ask to see a full line-up). I choose Oil who was quite tall and striking, super body, relaxed and chatty though not much English. Upgraded to a VIP room for extra 100 so 2400 for 90 minutes. The room was large and definitely a cut above the usual. It also had a bath which we used The experience was very pleasant without being anything particularly spectacular. You'd be disappointed if you're expecting a knee-trembling PSE kind of experience. Some 69 action was about as adventurous as it got. One round only, but that's not a problem as I'm good at making it last. I'd definitely go again and try some others in the line-up as the quality of the girls there was at least high enough to tempt me part with the money while other places weren't convincing at all.
G'day lads. I popped in to Snow White on Monday evening around 8 pm. It was my first time there so things are a little fuzzy to begin with. I entered and was given a girl. She was OK. But I was hoping for more. So I asked for a line-up. They sent me through to the other room and there were 7 or 8 lovely ladies. There was one who looked particularly eager. So I chose her! I am sorry, but I have totally forgotten her name. I'm shit with names. She was average height, long black hair, very outgoing, with a pretty enough face (surgery) and some huge (not natural) knockers. In short, she looks like she was drawn by a 15 year-old boy.
In the room and she pulled out three condoms promising me that we would use all of them in the hour and a half.
I will spare you the gory details except to say that we used only two of the condoms. But I popped three times (one BBBJ). She was a real goer and did her best to make sure that I got the three pops off. Her massage skills were OK. But not important. Her blow job skills were first rate. Absolutely went for gold.
It was a real PSE (no kissing so much as licking tongues) and she really did everything she could to make sure I left the place happy. I gave her a small tip (200) and happily left into the night.
I would definitely go back if I was able.What was the total cost?
I was told June does not work at Bongkot any more. So I went to check out Darling, and some other places if Darling did not work out.
Line up at Darling had no more than 10 to 12 girls. One or two with big tits however that is not my main motivator. Quickly picked a slim cutie. Clearly an Isaan girl. Nose upturned but just a little wider than ideal. Skin not very dark. Very sweet smile. Her face was easily the superior one in the fishbowl. Number may have been 10, I am not so sure now. (could have been 14 but I think 10 most likely). Certainly less than 20.
Name Rat (rhymes with but, cut, nut, etc.) from Ubon. Age 23. Quite short so only weighs 40 Kg. A cups but very nice ones no sag. 90 minutes. Had a good fun time. She kissed very passionately with tongue during the sex on the bed even though she started kissing a bit timidly in the bath. Had a body slide sort of in the bath. No real massage since I told her I don't like massage. Gentle fingering of pussy was allowed. I don't think she can speak any English beyond a few words. All conversation was in Thai.
Her BBBJ was very slow and soft, so this means very superior for me. Not DT though. Would have been no effort to CIM at all, however I wanted to fuck first. She was not scared of dick at all, and I was more than happy.
This would be my first Darling girl ever that I want to repeat. So I have not been to Darling and taken a girl there for many years. The papasans there in former times, were very bad untrustworthy types. Things may have improved, but I did not try to utilise the cheer-person at all, who was a lady in this case. I rate her higher than a new girl I tried yesterday, whose body was less good, BJ was less good, and kissing less good.
So all up a sweet girl with good GFE quite possible. I rate her face as 7.5 and body 7. No major body defects other than tits just A cups. The fact I could choose her quickly indicates a pretty face. Most massage shops have a real lack of pretty faces, which is why I usually choose very slowly or pass altogether is common.
Rooms at Darling are definitely way better than at Annies. Nothing wrong with the room at all. Nice Jacuzzi. Darling is a true Soapy. I could have taken a long time to choose a girl from the fishbowl, if I wanted. Annies does not really make this possible.
Randy Murican
08-14-16, 22:13
I was told June does not work at Bongkot any more. So I went to check out Darling, and some other places if Darling did not work out.
Line up at Darling had no more than 10 to 12 girls. One or two with big tits however that is not my main motivator. Quickly picked a slim cutie. Clearly an Isaan girl. Nose upturned but just a little wider than ideal. Skin not very dark. Very sweet smile. Her face was easily the superior one in the fishbowl. Number may have been 10, I am not so sure now. (could have been 14 but I think 10 most likely). Certainly less than 20.
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Rooms at Darling are definitely way better than at Annies. Nothing wrong with the room at all. Nice Jacuzzi. Darling is a true Soapy. I could have taken a long time to choose a girl from the fishbowl, if I wanted. Annies does not really make this possible.Nice to see Darling on the rebound. This is the 1st positive review in ages. The facilities are definitely an improvement over Annies. Decades ago this was the place I experienced my 1st soapy. At that time it was a minimum 2 pop place. What time did you visit?
Micky Mouse
08-15-16, 04:11
It was called Bangkok VIP Massage and they changed the name to Club 101.
Visited this place last Friday night.
The line-up was only 4 girls and all over 35+.
Chose a girl who looked younger out of the lot and was not really satisfied. Massage was hopeless. 2540 b + 250 b (room) for 90 MIN. I should have takes 60 min. One shot with a useless massage and 20 minutes I waled out. A good lesson learnt.
This place is just in front of Mango Massage.
MM.
Nice to see Darling on the rebound. This is the 1st positive review in ages. The facilities are definitely an improvement over Annies. Decades ago this was the place I experienced my 1st soapy. At that time it was a minimum 2 pop place. What time did you visit?About 8 pm I believe. I was offered a pop in the bath however I rarely try for two pops.
Hi,
I just wanted to know is Nataree still operational or has been closed.
Hi,
I just wanted to know is Nataree still operational or has been closed.I try not to flame, I really do, But dude, Seriously??
I try not to flame, I really do, But dude, Seriously??Not everyone reads the forum diligently all the time, Mr. Grumpy. I don't know the answer with certainty. If I did, I might answer. I don't know if the shut down was permanent. Thread search brings up many posts that don't answer the question very explicitly too. Would probably take someone a little diligence to find the right post. I could not be bothered to be honest since I did not really like the place Nataree, and it's suspect activities.
Not everyone reads the forum diligently all the time, Mr. Grumpy. I don't know the answer with certainty. If I did, I might answer. I don't know if the shut down was permanent. Thread search brings up many posts that don't answer the question very explicitly too. Would probably take someone a little diligence to find the right post. I could not be bothered to be honest since I did not really like the place Nataree, and it's suspect activities.I was in Nataree a few times, The girl were really beautiful if the service was a little vanilla.
The Nataree bust made international news. It even made it as far as the bastion of freedom for all. The Daily Mail -.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3630826/Bangkok-brothel-raid-reveals-[CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902)-sex-workers-cop-racket.html
A google of "Nataree Bangkok" leads to multiple articles about what happened and the current status, took me 2 minutes.
A question I have is, "Which Bangkok massage parlour has taken Nataree's position in the market? The Lord possibly?
Grumpy moi?? Here's a big smile :-)
Member #4591
08-16-16, 14:41
Great report on Mango massage. Thought I would put it in the right thread so others could find it much easier.
Decided to try Ae new girl at Mango. Similar to Fern maybe slightly taller. Was she prettier or more skillful? Not really. I think Fern gives the better GFE. Ae maybe still learning.
Both have babies. Web site pics of Fern are realistic. Pics of Ae maybe make her look a little slimmer than reality.
Good points. Ae did BBBJ in shower very slow indeed which is what I like. Not DT. So BBBJ scores 7 for my style. For sex she seemed to like cock and during doggy when seeing me go for the lube thought I wanted her ass. Was first ass offer I got for over a year. She said she wanted to cum first and then I could have her ass.
Ass was extremely tight compared to the pussy as I suppose you ass regulars will know is normal. Of course could not get the dick fully in where it could go fully in her pussy. Managed to cum in ass fucking with us both kneeling vertical and me behind her. I could also put a finger in the pussy now very tight in this position.
Sex scores an 8. Her face a 7 and body just 6 mainly due to baby.
Repeat is possible not guaranteed. Main problem was her wildcat nature. Tended to pinch, slap, scratch and bite. Dangerous for married man to have marks on them. Lucky my Mrs is out of town as I have bite bruise on the bicep. So she needs to just relax more and go with the flow. With experience she should settle down. Maybe some of you guys out there like wildcats. She was rather too restless during DATY. Maybe stimulation was too strong.
I guess I have got my yearly curiosity ass fuck done with. I can return to normal fucking. LOL.
Decided to try Ae new girl at Mango. Similar to Fern maybe slightly taller. Moderately slim small tits. Was she prettier or more skillful? Not really. I think Fern gives the better GFE. Ae maybe still learning.
Both have babies. Web site pics of Fern are realistic. Pics of Ae maybe make her look a little slimmer than reality.
Good points. Ae did BBBJ in shower very slow indeed which is what I like. Not DT. So BBBJ scores 7 for my style. For sex she seemed to like cock and during doggy when seeing me go for the lube thought I wanted her ass. Was first ass offer I got for over a year. She said she wanted to cum first and then I could have her ass.
Ass was extremely tight compared to the pussy as I suppose you ass regulars will know is normal. Of course could not get the dick fully in where it could go fully in her pussy. Managed to cum in ass fucking with us both kneeling vertical and me behind her. I could also put a finger in the pussy now very tight in this position.
Sex scores an 8. Her face a 7 and body just 6 mainly due to baby.
Repeat is possible not guaranteed. Main problem was her wildcat nature. Tended to pinch, slap, scratch and bite. Dangerous for married man to have marks on them. Lucky my Mrs is out of town as I have bite bruise on the bicep. So she needs to just relax more and go with the flow. With experience she should settle down. Maybe some of you guys out there like wildcats. She was rather too restless during DATY. Maybe stimulation was too strong.
I guess I have got my yearly curiosity ass fuck done with. I can return to normal fucking. LOL.
My Darling soapy girl the other day was no pornstar, but better for face body and GFE. Not better for skills.
Cat and Cherry of the past were freaky girls here because Cat had such a pretty face and Cherry such a great body.
Most oily girls, if got them naked to dance at Crazy House their bodies just could not compete nor the faces. So I go to Oily for reasonable looks with a bit more service, and I still go to bars for stunning bodies and pretty faces. Some variety is worthwhile but I am just not a service skills oriented person and probably most guys don't even like a BJ the way I like it done.
Great report on Mango massage. Thought I would put it in the right thread so others could find it much easier.I had just noticed my mistake and was moving it.
I was in Nataree a few times, The girl were really beautiful if the service was a little vanilla.
I had a lot of problems with girls being too young, too inexperienced, and too dick scared. So somewhat worse than vanilla service for me.
Then I also got to hear about their circumstances of being there that often indicated they had contract debts, received almost none of the money from customers and did not really have freedom. Many of them were closely "managed". Of course it would not be the first shop I heard these stories. I recall a Mona Lisa girl or two on a contract and staying in a place managed by the pimps, with limited freedoms outside of hours.
So all up I mostly did not have any great feelings at this place. The odd girl was maybe good enough to repeat, and had stamina for reasonable sex, but rarely.
Did not manage to select any really passionate super goers. Mostly half hearted girls. Maybe I was not lucky there. However it is quite a few years since my last girl there. I don't say that all girls were in the same situation.
For me, Nataree was below average, not for looks of the girls, but for attitude, and not as good as other favorite Soapies. I had better at all of these places (being my regular soapies when they were in their prime): Chao Praya 2, J One, Bangkok Cosy, Long Beach, Utopia, Amsterdam, Emmanuelle, Copa Cabana, Versailles, Plaza (near Cupidy), Infinity JC, and Thermae in times long gone. Never had great luck with girls at La Belle. Too much surgeries in there. Even my old Infinity JC girl now at La Belle looks horrible after nose job (she already had big tits and was very pretty before the nose job). The predecessor place Mona Lisa was better for me.
I detect a lot of decline in all the soapies. Utopia decline was massive, in terms of girl numbers, so was Chaopraya 2. Far too many surgeries girls in the modern day. 20+ years ago the girls were mostly all natural. It was better.
10 years ago I started in Oilies probably due to decline in soapies. I have probably always been a bar goer, although maybe for many years I did not bother when there was no nude dancing. The possibility to check out the whole face and body before choosing has always been a big plus for me.
I have had plenty of regular girls from Sheba, Suzi Wong and Crazy House where as I could not find girls enough fun at Nataree, to be regulars.
Wow! A blast from the past! My first soapie in BKK was at Darling. That was 14 years ago. I went with a friend and he picked a girl with huge boobs. I picked the cutest, prettiest girl there. I had a wonderful time. His girl was so so.
Afterwards, my girl wanted to go and eat as it was close to closing time. We waited for her outside and she took us to a western type restaurant. After dinner, we met up with some of her friends and went to drink at a bar. It was the craziest night. My buddy was sitting in the taxi with two lesbians on his lap, I had my girl on my lap, and we were all going to town. When we got to the bar, we all had an awesome time and got pretty wasted.
My friend insisted in paying, so the lesbians decided they would take care of him. That was his first threesome and it brings a tear to his eye every time he thinks about it.
I spent the night with my girl and vowed that I would keep in touch. I didn't. I am sorry about that because she was a really pretty girl, perfect body, and her service was incredible.
On subsequent trips I have tried to reach out to her, but to no avail. Time moves forward, not backward.
A number of years ago, I met a similar girl in your favorite place, Nataree. She was so educated (we were able to hold a decent conversation about politics, life, travel around the world), pretty, respectful, and so very sexy that I almost got hooked. I called her a couple of times after I left, but decided that it wasn't a good idea to get her hopes up.
I don't get to Bangkok as often as I would like so it makes no sense for me to keep in touch with these girls. Every time I go, there is usually someone new that rocks my world But I digress.
I enjoyed Darlings very much the couple of times I was there and I am glad to see that they are still in business. I have seen so many good places disappear over the years.
I was told June does not work at Bongkot any more. So I went to check out Darling, and some other places if Darling did not work out.....Rooms at Darling are definitely way better than at Annies. Nothing wrong with the room at all. Nice Jacuzzi. Darling is a true Soapy. I could have taken a long time to choose a girl from the fishbowl, if I wanted. Annies does not really make this possible.
I spent the night with my girl and vowed that I would keep in touch. I didn't. I am sorry about that because she was a really pretty girl, perfect body, and her service was incredible.
On subsequent trips I have tried to reach out to her, but to no avail. Time moves forward, not backward.
A number of years ago, I met a similar girl in your favorite place, Nataree. She was so educated (we were able to hold a decent conversation about politics, life, travel around the world), pretty, respectful, and so very sexy that I almost got hooked. I called her a couple of times after I left, but decided that it wasn't a good idea to get her hopes up.
Darling would have been my 2nd or 3rd soapy about 24 years ago. Before that "Golden Gate" I am guessing the name have not been able to confirm, probably somewhere in Soi 2 about 33 years ago. Definitely not Annies. Can't remember if Thermae Soapy was before or after Darling but I hooked on a Thermae girl. Still can contact her but she is not exciting any more.
Some of the old time parties were very memorable. I hope you are being sarcastic about Nataree. Never was a favorite of mine. However the girls were not the worst looking.
I have been away just 3 months and yet I find most of my regulars are not available for one reason or another. One recover's from a tit job. Definitely bad news. One had her workplace closed down. Another is a student in another province. One is retired. Another has disappeared again. I did one regular so far. The new girls tried are mostly so so and not really the same as the old favourites. I hate losing touch with stunning fabulous girls, even if they retire from hooking. I miss some girls very badly. I would much rather have 90% of my old regulars back again.
I hope you are being sarcastic about Nataree.Definitely just joking about Nataree. I only went there once, but all in all it was a decent experience.
What I remember from years back was that the big soapies were the place to go. Places like J1, J2, Darlings, Poseidon, Subway, Noar, and even Cupidy were the places to go. Now it seems that the smaller places like the Love Teen places, Snow White, and even Annies, Dr. BJs, etc, are what's in. Times change.
I enjoyed going to the big places with 20 or 30 (or sometimes more) girls to choose from. It was special (at least to me). Nowadays, the smaller places have 5 or 6 girls, if you are lucky.
I hate losing touch with stunning fabulous girls, even if they retire...I hate it, too. The stunning, fabulous girls are moving on to bigger and better things. Good for them, though. I have always been happy for the girls that move on, get married, find real jobs, etc. I just wish I could find someone to replace them.
Ahhhh. The memories. I love it. I'm heading down to BKK in February for a week to make some new memories. Hope to catch you while I am there.
I agree with Bkkdog's recent review of Ninja at Snow White. She has a nice girl-next-door face and a lovely body. She has a sweet, bubbly nature and is very eager to please. She's definitely A+, as are all the girls at Snow White. She said most of her customers are Japanese and Korean, which doesn't surprise me given her fair skin. She'd just finished with one when I arrived and another was waiting for her when I left so you may have to book her in advance if you want her.
The Nataree bust made international news. It even made it as far as the bastion of freedom for all. The Daily Mail -.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3630826/Bangkok-brothel-raid-reveals-[CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902)-sex-workers-cop-racket.html
Funny my web service provider at home in Bangkok, does not even allow me to view that link, or the Thai Government blocks it. Maybe it was even Stronger than a Bangkok Post article. LOL. We can't expect the media to give a balanced view of things. They do try to see the ugly side of everything.
Member #4591
08-17-16, 16:58
Funny my web service provider at home in Bangkok, does not even allow me to view that link, or the Thai Government blocks it. Maybe it was even Stronger than a Bangkok Post article. LOL. We can't expect the media to give a balanced view of things. They do try to see the ugly side of everything.The Daily Mail has been blocked for years now in Thailand. Apparently, the Thai government has been unhappy with their reporting about the political problems. Even the local CNN affiliate went off the air during the coup and never came on again.
The Daily Mail has been blocked for years now in Thailand. Apparently, the Thai government has been unhappy with their reporting about the political problems. Even the local CNN affiliate went off the air during the coup and never came on again.It has nothing to do with political problems but is because they published a certain video of a dog's birthday party which is illegal to discuss in Thailand so I won't, and I recommend no one else does. It's very easy to get round the block though.
I agree with Bkkdog's recent review of Ninja at Snow White. She has a nice girl-next-door face and a lovely body. She has a sweet, bubbly nature and is very eager to please. She's definitely A+, as are all the girls at Snow White. She said most of her customers are Japanese and Korean, which doesn't surprise me given her fair skin. She'd just finished with one when I arrived and another was waiting for her when I left so you may have to book her in advance if you want her.This girl is busy these days.
Definitely just joking about Nataree. I only went there once, but all in all it was a decent experience.
What I remember from years back was that the big soapies were the place to go. Places like J1, J2, Darlings, Poseidon, Subway, Noar, and even Cupidy were the places to go. Now it seems that the smaller places like the Love Teen places, Snow White, and even Annies, Dr. BJs, etc, are what's in. Times change.
I enjoyed going to the big places with 20 or 30 (or sometimes more) girls to choose from. It was special (at least to me). Nowadays, the smaller places have 5 or 6 girls, if you are lucky.Absolutely correct now choice of girls ID less.
So I went to check out Darling, and some other places if Darling did not work out. ............
This would be my first Darling girl ever that I want to repeat.Did she try to hit you for a 500 Baht tip at the end? Each time I have been there the girl has asked for another 500.
I agree with Bkkdog's recent review of Ninja at Snow White. She has a nice girl-next-door face and a lovely body. She has a sweet, bubbly nature and is very eager to please. She's definitely A+, as are all the girls at Snow White. She said most of her customers are Japanese and Korean, which doesn't surprise me given her fair skin. She'd just finished with one when I arrived and another was waiting for her when I left so you may have to book her in advance if you want her.Interesting. Had two sessions, the second after Dog's glowing report and my experience was lackluster. Yes, she is a very nice gal, and good looking for an oily; no baby, large natural breasts, and white skin. Also very funny and just delightful to talk with. In Thai of course, because her English is quite limited. Sadly just not up to par skill set wise in my opinion. She lacks that nasty sexy attitude I like. If you are looking for a Pond, Cherry, Apple, etc; Ninja is not your gal. BBBJ was just ok, 6 out of 10 for me and A+ was not on the menu for me either time. Her words "yai maak, mai dai. " She also asked me why so many guys like anal. Sounded to me that she is not a fan, but does it because she feels she has to in many cases. Not all gals at Snow are A+ in my experience. I will not be lining up for her, as I like a full on PSE, but for dudes looking for a pleasant GFE, she fits that bill.
This girl is busy these days.Anyone tried the new girl Aom at Snow White? She was on the website briefly before they took it down but I've never seen her in the shop. Maybe she's worth booking.
Anyone tried the new girl Aom at Snow White? She was on the website briefly before they took it down but I've never seen her in the shop. Maybe she's worth booking.Have not. Heard a good report on Icey though. Might be up your alley. Similar to Ninja I hear. I miss Min (former Tom at Tulip), Cream, and Momay. They were certainly my top gals at SW. Have yet to find any replacements.
Have not. Heard a good report on Icey though. Might be up your alley. Similar to Ninja I hear. I miss Min (former Tom at Tulip), Cream, and Momay. They were certainly my top gals at SW. Have yet to find any replacements.I've seen Icey in the shop. She looks nice but her face is not really my type. I would try her if Ninja and Nonney were not available.
I just got back from Snow White and saw a really cute girl there. I'd already made a booking for another girl so didn't inquire about her but I think she must have been Icey. She's like a smaller, cuter version of Ninja. I'll definitely go back to check her out soon.
The girl I mentioned in my previous post is probably someone else. Difficult to keep up with all the cuties in Snow White right now.
JasonBen84
08-18-16, 17:20
It's been almost an year after my last trip to Bangkok, in short job change restricted my air time to BKK sadly: But still following all you bro's contributions and Doing RTFF for FR's. Looking forward for my trip in 2 weeks. Below is my short plan, hope its going to go well.
Mango: May: Tried twice, more like a Chinese doll, too much talking but PSE level is far good IMHO.
SW: Apple (heard she is back) dirty tigress. If apple is not avail, based on few new FR's will pick Ninja / ICEY. Anyone else with no baby damage?
Cherry: will skip.
Bongkot: Nooknik and Cash. I miss Momoy. Only bro's Mjen1970 and Goatscrot posted that she is not in SKY massage. Do you bro's mind to PM her line ID if you don't mind?
Tulip: Any PSE level girl available?
Crazy House: Threesome with all time favorite Van and her sister (my ex-maid) now works in a small bar near Nana). Bottle of vodka and whole night fun is lined up on day 2.
Hope I'm updated till date. If any of you bro up for a drink and visit the MP's, PM me.
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Expat Lust
08-19-16, 04:17
Are there any good massage places near Siam Paragon that can give me a massage and more? Anything within the mall or within walking distance? If not what's a good place closest one to the mall?
Thanks.
Member #4591
08-19-16, 17:36
Are there any good massage places near Siam Paragon that can give me a massage and more? Anything within the mall or within walking distance? If not what's a good place closest one to the mall?
Thanks.Who are you? I'm just wondering kind sir. Well let's see. Right in Siam Paragon, within the mall, there is one of the best oily massage places. Please PM me for the floor, name of the shop, and pricing. The extras are amazing and the women perform stellar. I'm always glad to help.
Who are you? Please PM me ...I'm always glad to help.Well done!
RonnieMonger
08-20-16, 00:53
Does anyone know where Nice is these days? She worked at Bamboo off Soi 8 and its predecessor for a long time. But she's been gone for at least a year.
Who are you? I'm just wondering kind sir. Well let's see. Right in Siam Paragon, within the mall, there is one of the best oily massage places. Please PM me for the floor, name of the shop, and pricing. The extras are amazing and the women perform stellar. I'm always glad to help.You are a bad man, to be looking for and able to find something in all places. ROFLMAO.
Expat Lust
08-22-16, 18:24
Who are you? I'm just wondering kind sir. Well let's see. Right in Siam Paragon, within the mall, there is one of the best oily massage places. Please PM me for the floor, name of the shop, and pricing. The extras are amazing and the women perform stellar. I'm always glad to help.BKKDog,
This is actually my first post and I'm not sure I want a subscription yet so I can't PM. I go to BKK sometimes and sometimes while I'm at the mall I think it would be nice to get a massage from young sexy gals with 4 hands if possible. How expensive is 4 hands? I don't want to go home to the so smelling at all so I have to be careful. Any chance you can give me some info in a post? Around here there's nothing but a bunch of middle aged women working at the AMPS. If you know of any other places in Siam Paragon or World Trade or close let me know.
Thanks.
BKKDog,
This is actually my first post and I'm not sure I want a subscription yet so I can't PM. I go to BKK sometimes and sometimes while I'm at the mall I think it would be nice to get a massage from young sexy gals with 4 hands if possible. How expensive is 4 hands? I don't want to go home to the so smelling at all so I have to be careful. Any chance you can give me some info in a post? Around here there's nothing but a bunch of middle aged women working at the AMPS. If you know of any other places in Siam Paragon or World Trade or close let me know.
Thanks.I think BKKdog is pulling your leg. I don't know much about Siam Paragon so maybe I shouldn't pipe up but as you are a noob I'll try and give you some very basic advice.
There are 2 types of massage. Oily and soapy.
Oily tends to be very pornstar style, do whatever you want and they tend to provide extreme services.
Soapy tend to be "softer", full service but more of a soapy bath and quite vanilla sex. (In my experience).
I like the oilies. Current favourites are snow white on soi 26 and bongkot on soi 24.
My favorite soapy was Nataree but that was shutdown and I am not too up to date on others. Have a search though.
Member #4591
08-23-16, 02:27
BKKDog,
This is actually my first post and I'm not sure I want a subscription yet so I can't PM. I go to BKK sometimes and sometimes while I'm at the mall I think it would be nice to get a massage from young sexy gals with 4 hands if possible. How expensive is 4 hands? I don't want to go home to the so smelling at all so I have to be careful. Any chance you can give me some info in a post? Around here there's nothing but a bunch of middle aged women working at the AMPS. If you know of any other places in Siam Paragon or World Trade or close let me know.
Thanks.OK I'll bite. Go to Akane massage. No FS is available but BJs & HJs. Just google it. Also there are many small shops off of side streets, just go to Makkasan Rd, turn right, then make another right at the curve and that small street has many shops. All are closer to Central World which is not too far from Siam Paragon.
Franciscass
08-23-16, 03:22
The skilled shiller never directly recommends a shop they are cozy with. Rather the surrogate will mention it in passing when seemingly chatting about something else. For example. "I found this site on whatever, incidentally it also has a link to * on soi 7/1" or "there are lots of massage shops in Bangkok but if you fancy a nuru gel experience why not try * on 7/1". It's all about subliminally mentioning the name without seeming to have any interest in the place. I know, just another example of a sad obsessive vendetta. Probably.
Member #4591
08-23-16, 06:39
The skilled shiller never directly recommends a shop they are cozy with. Rather the surrogate will mention it in passing when seemingly chatting about something else. For example. "I found this site on whatever, incidentally it also has a link to * on soi 7/1" or "there are lots of massage shops in Bangkok but if you fancy a nuru gel experience why not try * on 7/1". It's all about subliminally mentioning the name without seeming to have any interest in the place. I know, just another example of a sad obsessive vendetta. Probably.Actually, a shill is a fake review given of an establishment or escort, usually by an employee or the provider themselves. Maybe you are referring to something a little different. Those toots on the road or maybe a taxi or Tuk Tuk driver? We all know they are in the pockets of many shops so what's the big deal? Who are you really referring to?
For this post to be useful, please tell us who we need to be careful of when getting recommendations for a service provider? OK enough guys, it's very simple. I'm tired of all these posts about the many scams we believe there to be in Thailand. Look, if you recommend a shop to a customer and the shop needs people to introduce the shop to customers, why shouldn't the guy get something for his trouble. This is his job. If you are going to complain about 500 baht more then you shouldn't even be mongering in Thailand. The only time I would agree this would be a bad thing is if the said guy recommending you to a shop, actually puts you in a fake shop where the girls or Thai staff steal from you or something but there is definitely nothing wrong with paying a commission to a guy for introducing customers to shops. If the customer and shop are all happy then great.
We are all me here hopefully so stop being crybabies and grow some balls. Get out there and explore and have some fun.
Ok I'll bite. Go to Akane massage. No FS is available but BJs & HJs. Just google it. Also there are many small shops off of side streets, just go to Makkasan Rd, turn right, then make another right at the curve and that small street has many shops. All are closer to Central World which is not too far from Siam Paragon.Yes, Akane Ploenchit road, Chitlom is a very near option.
Although massage shops are everywhere, its a strange requirement to want them to be near to Siam Paragon, etc. I guess the guy wants to get a naughty in while the wife is shopping. When guys post strange requests, it's better if they explain the motivation, so we don't get too baffled.
For Soapies, Chao Praya 2 (not J One) in Chaturathit (near to Ratchaparop intersection), and Sao Botan in Rama VI Soi 13 are not so far away. 4 hands massage certainly possible and sex.
Venus in Pratunam is near to Big C, but I can't recommend, as never tried it. Can't remember exact address.
He would probably best get there by motorcycle in case of traffic jams.
Franciscass
08-23-16, 15:29
Actually, a shill is a fake review given of an establishment I'm tired of all these posts about the many scams we believe there to be in Thailand. Look, if you recommend a shop to a customer and the shop needs people to introduce the shop to customers, why shouldn't the guy get something for his trouble. This is his job. If you are going to complain about 500 baht more then you shouldn't even be mongering in Thailand. The only time I would agree this would be a bad thing is if the said guy recommending you to a shop, actually puts you in a fake shop where the girls or Thai staff steal from you or something but there is definatly nothing wrong with paying a commission to a guy for introducing customers to shops. If the customer and shop are all happy then great.Actually Dog shilling while it can be need not be an actual fake review. That was my point. I was referring to internet shilling rather than touting which in its many manifestations I find difficult to defend. Sure the tuk tuk lad who gets a commission for delivering some newbies to a regular Turkish bath, good luck to him. When the same tuk tuk lad picks up tourists who end spending 10's of thousands of baht on overpriced gems that's different. As to mentioning scams on ISG I agree some are petty some just sour grapes but I would hesitate suggesting that nobody should bring certain situations to members attention. I've noticed recently much more than in the past an attempt by some members to dictate the nature of what gets posted as if only their wise and worldly contributions have any validity. As a wise man said I may not agree with what you post but I will defend to the death your right to post it.
Expat Lust
08-23-16, 18:16
Ok I'll bite. Go to Akane massage. No FS is available but BJs & HJs. Just google it. Also there are many small shops off of side streets, just go to Makkasan Rd, turn right, then make another right at the curve and that small street has many shops. All are closer to Central World which is not too far from Siam Paragon.Thanks for the info. Any FS with four hands available? Something that's safe and not too seedy? With a nice selection of cute young Thai girls? I could walk a little bit. Many thanks. Also is there any ladies offering incall at their apartments or Condos? Is there any websites that advertise these types of girls?
I've noticed recently much more than in the past an attempt by some members to dictate the nature of what gets posted as if only their wise and worldly contributions have any validity.Agreed, except from what I have observed there is only one member, at least in the Thailand threads, who seems to engage in this sort of destructive behavior habitually.
Member #4591
08-24-16, 02:45
Actually Dog shilling while it can be need not be an actual fake review. That was my point. I was referring to internet shilling rather than touting which in its many manifestations I find difficult to defend. Sure the tuk tuk lad who gets a commission for delivering some newbies to a regular Turkish bath, good luck to him. When the same tuk tuk lad picks up tourists who end spending 10's of thousands of baht on overpriced gems that's different. As to mentioning scams on ISG I agree some are petty some just sour grapes but I would hesitate suggesting that nobody should bring certain situations to members attention. I've noticed recently much more than in the past an attempt by some members to dictate the nature of what gets posted as if only their wise and worldly contributions have any validity. As a wise man said I may not agree with what you post but I will defend to the death your right to post it.So again, who do we need to be careful of? Is it the provider or business owner writing a glowing receive for there own shop? Or is it the member on the Internet site that casually suggests he heard about a venue in passing or saw the link on a website?? That's a little far fetched don't ya think? In fact it's utter paranoya and if you are that paranoid about posts on the Internet all being shills, well I think you know what my next sentence will be so need need to write it.
Franciscass
08-24-16, 03:58
So again, who do we need to be careful of? Is it the provider or business owner writing a glowing receive for there own shop? Or is it the member on the Internet site that casually suggests he heard about a venue in passing or saw the link on a website?? That's a little far fetched don't ya think?? In fact it's utter paranoya and if you are that paranoid about posts on the Internet all being shills, well I think you know what my next sentence will be so need need to write it.Hi Dog,
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you. Incidentally and please don't take this the wrong way but I am curious, is English your first language?
Wolvenvacht
08-24-16, 07:20
Thanks for the info. Any FS with four hands available? Something that's safe and not too seedy? With a nice selection of cute young Thai girls? I could walk a little bit. Many thanks. Also is there any ladies offering incall at their apartments or Condos? Is there any websites that advertise these types of girls?"FS with four hands"? You mean a threesome? For that there is one address that guarantees you a threesome with bi-sexual ladies and that is Eden Club in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 (http://www.youporn.com/watch/10281305/blowjob-from-a-thai-girl-at-eden-club/). Conveniently close to the Nana Skytrain station.
Incall at the lady's apartment or condo seems quite rare (although there are some adverts on Craigslist). Many working girls share an apartment, so they cannot bring "guests" and most apartments are really only one room studios not set-up to receive customers. Streetwalkers will happily take you to the nearest short time hotel.
Mark Inspire
08-24-16, 07:46
A quick visit to Akene before catching the flight.
This is a good place to experience massage from two girls together. Took their package of 1.5 hours (THB 1680) where the second girl joins towards the last 30 minutes. The prostrate massage, rimming etc are good yet different experiences. Cbi is routine.
I liked it since it was something that I was trying to experience. Recommended!
FritsVanegter
08-24-16, 08:56
Hello,
I did visit Mitu massage a few times during my stay in BKK that will end tomorrow. Have also been there a few times on my last trip.
Usually did go for no hands massage. Did send sms to them to ask who is available a few hours before actually going there after their answer just confirm booking and go there later.
So far only positive experiences at this shop. A bit more expensive depending on which girl you choose. This time did meet Best, Hikaru and Miku. Massage with gel is really special and all the girls so far were very pleasant and real nice bodies.
Give it a try.
Greetings,
Frits
Member #4591
08-24-16, 17:05
Hi Dog,
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you. Incidentally and please don't take this the wrong way but I am curious, is English your first language?Dam IPhone predictive text. Gets me every time. May gods strike me down in their wrath of fury. Tip number 10. When you lose a debate, pick on the posters grammar or typing skills. Note to self. Ignore button!
Gannaton48
08-24-16, 20:17
Hello,
I did visit Mitu massage a few times during my stay in BKK that will end tomorrow. Have also been there a few times on my last trip.
Usually did go for no hands massage. Did send sms to them to ask who is available a few hours before actually going there after their answer just confirm booking and go there later.
So far only positive experiences at this shop. A bit more expensive depending on which girl you choose. This time did meet Best, Hikaru and Miku. Massage with gel is really special and all the girls so far were very pleasant and real nice bodies.
Give it a try.
Greetings,
FritsIs CIM provided?
FritsVanegter
08-25-16, 01:04
Is CIM provided?Hello,
Sure it is provided.
You can also see some info on their website.
Greetings,
Frits
Franciscass
08-25-16, 01:51
Dam IPhone predictive text. Gets me every time. May gods strike me down in their wrath of fury. Tip number 10. When you lose a debate, pick on the posters grammar or typing skills. Note to self. Ignore button!My humblest apologizes Dog. I misinterpreted the difficulty in understanding some of your posts as a language issue. In fairness I had considered the possibility of an educational and or an intellectual deficit but passed on them. Obviously I realize now I shouldn't have. Sorry my mistake. Incidentally the accepted test for who loses the debate is which one goes to the ignore button first.
Dam IPhone predictive text. Gets me every time. May gods strike me down in their wrath of fury. Tip number 10. When you lose a debate, pick on the posters grammar or typing skills. Note to self. Ignore button!I noticed a spelling mistake and a doubled word and one slang Americanism "ya" tut tut. Not absolutely perfect English but very normal in a post for a typo or two. I only write near English myself.
I agree the content matters more than odd typo.
Franciscass
08-25-16, 05:58
I noticed a spelling mistake and a doubled word and one slang Americanism "ya" tut tut. Not absolutely perfect English but very normal in a post for a typo or two. I only write near English myself.
I agree the content matters more than odd typo.Totally with you on that one S.
Hi all,
I am visiting Bangkok next week and staying near Nana plaza. Can you help me with indies for outcall or massage parlor with girl recommendations?
Hello,
I did visit Mitu massage a few times during my stay in BKK that will end tomorrow. Have also been there a few times on my last trip.
I was there last week for the Nuru no hands thing. There was no choice for that service, only one lady available. 3 floor climb to the upgraded room, and, while I enjoyed myself I am not sure that I would repeat. The BJ was average at best, and the rimming was more of a tease than a delivery.
Franciscass
08-26-16, 05:17
Read the bloody forum!Unnecessarily rude wouldn't you say but at least for once the syntax is passable although the use of exclamation point could be argued. Down to being just four words I guess.
Wolvenvacht
08-26-16, 07:11
Hi all,
I am visiting Bangkok next week and staying near Nana plaza. Can you help me with indies for outcall or massage parlor with girl recommendations?What do you mean with "indies for outcall"?
As to girl recommendations from massage shops, it is no use even trying to start to give recommendations. These girls move between shops all the time, their service may be different depending on her mood that day, how many customers she already serviced and the customer's expectation. I like GFE style of service more than PSE, so my recommendations will be quite different than those of someone who is more into PSE. I like small tits on an otherwise curvy body, others may go for the tiny spinners or the big boobs. So many people, so many different expectations.
There is only one recommendation that all will agree with: Read the forum so you know price levels and what generally can be expected and then just go out on the streets and see for yourself.
Anyone tried May at Mango Massage? Her body looks great on the website but it seems to be a photoshop job. In particular she seems to have a lovely smooth, flat tummy, but in reality is it a mummy tummy?
Traveler1234
08-26-16, 14:08
Anyone tried May at Mango Massage? Her body looks great on the website but it seems to be a photoshop job. In particular she seems to have a lovely smooth, flat tummy, but in reality is it a mummy tummy?If the same May I had early 2015, she's closer to 30, nice boobs and GFE. But stunner she's not, maybe 7/10 tops. YMMV.
Anyone tried May at Mango Massage? Her body looks great on the website but it seems to be a photoshop job. In particular she seems to have a lovely smooth, flat tummy, but in reality is it a mummy tummy?She is a little standoffish until in the room. She's as lovely in person as the photos, I think her braces are now off and although she doesn't seem to get excited about A+ she gives good service all around.
Can I as a stupid question? Are the massage shops near and around Eden Club giving the same services as those on Soi 24 and 26 and at similar prices? I have never used them but you'd think trying to compete with what you can get at Eden they would have to be cheaper and do everything?
Is it Akene or Akane? Are ther e 2 shops? I didn't quite get the pricing. Is A+ offered and is it extra?
A quick visit to Akene before catching the flight.
This is a good place to experience massage from two girls together. Took their package of 1.5 hours (THB 1680) where the second girl joins towards the last 30 minutes. The prostrate massage, rimming etc are good yet different experiences. Cbi is routine.
I liked it since it was something that I was trying to experience. Recommended!
If the same May I had early 2015, she's closer to 30, nice boobs and GFE. But stunner she's not, maybe 7/10 tops. YMMV.
She is a little standoffish until in the room. She's as lovely in person as the photos, I think her braces are now off and although she doesn't seem to get excited about A+ she gives good service all around.Thanks for the responses but does she have a mummy tummy or not? By 'mummy tummy' I mean stretch marks that result from child birth.
Thanks for the responses but does she have a mummy tummy or not? By 'mummy tummy' I mean stretch marks that result from child birth.I had a look at the pictures on the Mango website and no sign of any baby damage.
5555555. I'll get my coat.
Can I as a stupid question? Are the massage shops near and around Eden Club giving the same services as those on Soi 24 and 26 and at similar prices? I have never used them but you'd think trying to compete with what you can get at Eden they would have to be cheaper and do everything?I don't really know what is down 7/1 since the Dr BJ bust. The one 24/26 style place around there that I know is Bamboo off soi 8 (other side of Suk obviously)
Thanks for the responses but does she have a mummy tummy or not? By 'mummy tummy' I mean stretch marks that result from child birth.Nice ass and face is all I can recall.
I don't really know what is down 7/1 since the Dr BJ bust. What do you mean by "bust"? Is that like a raid or police inspection? The front of the shops has been remodelled and names changed to Wood Bar and Chrome Bar, but they still operate like before as far as I know.
I have noticed one very cute girl outside of Bai Fern Massage in Soi 7/1. I could easily try her if sex is available. I certainly don't want a real massage.
If the same May I had early 2015, she's closer to 30, nice boobs and GFE. But stunner she's not, maybe 7/10 tops. YMMV.7/10 is a very good mark for an Oily girl.
No one seems to talk about the face. LOL Are the website pics of May totally realistic or a bit exaggerated for beauty?
I would say the web site pics of Fern are 100% realistic, where pics of Ae make her body look a bit better than it actually is.
7/10 is a very good mark for an Oily girl.
No one seems to talk about the face. LOL Are the website pics of May totally realistic or a bit exaggerated for beauty?
I would say the web site pics of Fern are 100% realistic, where pics of Ae make her body look a bit better than it actually is.You can clearly see the comically bad photoshop job on Ae.
Christian G
08-27-16, 11:36
Is it Akene or Akane? Are ther e 2 shops? I didn't quite get the pricing. Is A+ offered and is it extra?http://akane-corp.com/
Akane have 2 shop, Suk soi33 and Chidlom.
Mark Inspire
08-27-16, 11:48
Apologies for the typos! It is Akane, and yes they have two shops. In Sukhumvit & Chitlom. And it was intended to be CBJ!
Prostrate massage and AR are par for the course. Its a good experience when you aren't looking for a full meal deal.
Is it Akene or Akane? Are ther e 2 shops? I didn't quite get the pricing. Is A+ offered and is it extra?
You can clearly see the comically bad photoshop job on Ae.Yes its obvious that the first pic is incredibly smoothed and whitened and looks really stupid, not recognisable. The others pics are clearly better, however may not have been taken recently and subject to better shopping.
Yes its obvious that the first pic is incredibly smoothed and whitened and looks really stupid, not recognisable. The others pics are clearly better, however may not have been taken recently and subject to better shopping.I was thinking more of the third and sixth one, where the tummy has clearly been photoshopped to make it look smooth. The photoshopping is so amateurish that it looks more like someone has just painted over the stretch marks.
It's EZ1 and 2.
I was thinking more of the third and sixth one, where the tummy has clearly been photoshopped to make it look smooth. The photoshopping is so amateurish that it looks more like someone has just painted over the stretch marks.
Hi all,
I'm a newbie here and wondering am I posting this at right place.
Me and my wife will in Bangkok next week. Any suggestion where I can get outcall erotic massage for my wife?
I was thinking more of the third and sixth one, where the tummy has clearly been photoshopped to make it look smooth. The photoshopping is so amateurish that it looks more like someone has just painted over the stretch marks.Thanks, I am glad I triggered you into being more specific. That caused me to examine specific pics closely.
I have to admit that my previous last look at these pics, I did not blow them to fullsize and was looking at them all in the web page concurrently, sized little more than 1 inch in height and darkish colouring with my less than perfect eyesight. When blown up in size, I agree the painting of face and belly looks really obvious to me as well. I had not even looked at the belly before closely.
So pic 1 looked really bad to me even without blowing up the size. So therefore even worse than pics 3 and 6. We can assume all the pics are heavily shopped. Indeed the real girl is not that smooth in face or body.
In case of Fern, I had not examined the pics to determine level of shopping. It was just my reaction that the pics looked the same as the real girl. Looking at just one or two closely now, they still look realistic enough like the real girl. I think clearly photos were done by someone different.
So I have learned now, that in future, I should check web site pics in detail, to see how fake they are. A cursory glance is not good enough, with my long sighted deterioration.
What is your assessment of May pics?, Are they more believable than Ae pics? I suppose the May face shots seem a bit smoothed or heavy makeup.
It's EZ1 and 2.Ha Ha. Yes I agree. Most of the EZ girls look quite far from the pics. Perhaps the odd very pretty girl exception, but I am no expert.
I am very taken with the pics of New and Yoko. LOL I would love to meet these girls. Well actually I like Yoko's face but not the coconuts. Perhaps New only.
Hi all,
I'm a newbie here and wondering am I posting this at right place.
Me and my wife will in Bangkok next week. Any suggestion where I can get outcall erotic massage for my wife?Can you post a pic of your wife? What day next week? I can make myself available. ;)
Seriously, are you looking for a female to provide her with the massage? Are you expecting any girl on girl action? Most masseuses will be happy to give the wife a manual happy ending. More than that and we might need to consider different advice.
http://akane-corp.com/
Akane have 2 shop, Suk soi33 and Chidlom.Browsing throug ISG, I noticed the reference to Akane and had a peep at their website.
To my surprise, they feature Misato again, an old fave of mine, till she left 2012 or 2013. In the old days she was game to many things not on the Akane menu and we had lots of fun.
She is definitely not a teenager any more, but I look forward to seeing her again.
What is your assessment of May pics?, Are they more believable than Ae pics? I suppose the May face shots seem a bit smoothed or heavy makeup.May pics are definitely more believable. I can't see any evidence that they've been heavily shopped, even zooming in close. A few facial imperfections are no big deal to me but a sagging, wrinkly tummy is a total boner killer. I'm surprised so many guys on this forum consider it a non-issue.
It's a bit off-putting to hear her described as looking about 30. She'd have to be a very attractive 30 year old to appeal to me.
May pics are definitely more believable. I can't see any evidence that they've been heavily shopped, even zooming in close. A few facial imperfections are no big deal to me but a sagging, wrinkly tummy is a total boner killer. I'm surprised so many guys on this forum consider it a non-issue.
It's a bit off-putting to hear her described as looking about 30. She'd have to be a very attractive 30 year old to appeal to me.Wrinkly tummy worse than deflated twisted bag tits? Perhaps so. I am not am ageist really, but I don't like hanging or shrivelled skin. Rightly or wrongly, for mongering purposes, I look for dream girls for the appearance, and fun as well. Not sure that the Oilies have any of these. Okay I met the odd few stunners over the years in Oilies being: Bai Fern (Yoremichi) (9 face and 9 body), Gaew (Pink) (9 face and 10 body), and some girl from Cherry with an 8 face and a 10 body (name is escaping me). The pics did not lie for these girls. However only Bai Fern of the 3 had really top GFE performance. I am afraid that is it for stunning girls both body and face at least 8 out of 10. It has been a little easier to find super looking girls in Soapies in years gone by and in bars.
Till she retired a year ago I was hooked on a girl approx. 35 years old. Incredibly sexy. Some body defects but face was in good condition, and most of the body was hot. She could make me forget other girls no problem.
Meanwhile I still find my long time GF very sexy with a body still in great shape at 38, perhaps a little bit skinny but good tits and good ass. Don't notice signs of having had a baby. Her face is no where near as fresh as when she was in early 20's, but okay Probably just needs to put on a little extra weight.
I recently did a girl who quoted age 35, but at first I really thought she was about 25. So I don't think its the age so much, but how well they have looked after themselves.
I know a 50 year old Thai girl with no face wrinkles. Even Thais think she is at most 35. I had forehead wrinkles already by age 35 (caused by ex wife LOL).
I certainly think 30 year olds can be looking very good, especially the bodies can still be perfect.
It is a great pity the children have destroyed the bodies of some girls and yet others seem to have got away with it with no stretch marks. I guess I can prefer well done Sillies over serious sag bags.
Its still a mystery how that Thai girls got pregnant at the age of 15 and had a baby at 16, no husband, and now claim they had little education, and knew nothing, did not think they would be pregnant on the first fuck. Thai society and education has a lot to answer for. The only thing the girls were taught was not to fuck. How useful was that?
A high percentage of working girls are single mothers, especially in Oilies.
Wolvenvacht
08-29-16, 19:09
Its still a mystery how that Thai girls got pregnant at the age of 15 and had a baby at 16, no husband, and now claim they had little education, and knew nothing, did not think they would be pregnant on the first fuck. Thai society and education has a lot to answer for. The only thing the girls were taught was not to fuck. How useful was that?No doubt the Thai take their clues too much from the USA, where the same silly and not workable policy is still much the standard.
No doubt the Thai take their clues too much from the USA, where the same silly and not workable policy is still much the standard.However American 16 year olds are not dropping so many babies, right? I assume they get abortions instead. Same for my home country.
Sensible parents would get their daughters on the pill, I reckon, and also talk candidly about sex precautions. Forbidding it is clearly useless.
Wolvenvacht
08-31-16, 07:46
However American 16 year olds are not dropping so many babies, right? I assume they get abortions instead. Same for my home country.The USA has the highest teen pregnancy rate of all developend countries in the world. Almost 35 per 1000 below 18 year old girls become mothers. That is about a quarter million babies a year! And taking into account that only a little over 50% deliver the babies (the other half have abortions, either induced or spontaneous), that is close to half a million girls under 18 getting pregnant each year. I think it is a lot.
Sensible parents would get their daughters on the pill, I reckon, and also talk candidly about sex precautions. Forbidding it is clearly useless.You are absolutely right, but it is not the official US policy. Many states have laws that require schools to give "equal time" to talks about abstinence and contraception. And it is still a sad fact that many parents simply do not do the "sex talk" with their children and leave it to schools to do that (badly).
The USA has the highest teen pregnancy rate of all developend countries in the world. Almost 35 per 1000 below 18 year old girls become mothers. That is about a quarter million babies a year! And taking into account that only a little over 50% deliver the babies (the other half have abortions, either induced or spontaneous), that is close to half a million girls under 18 getting pregnant each year. I think it is a lot.
USA has several ethnic groups so I guess the teenage births will not be evenly distributed among those groups. I certainly was surprised by the rate of babies. I saw U.K. was rated 2nd place behind USA. I also read where Thailand had 43 teenage births (not just pregnancies) per 1000 per year. Almost 1 in every 23 girls. If Thailand population is about 70 million and there are 4 million girls in this group (just a guess), that is about 170 K teenage births per year.
Abortion is illegal in Thailand except for r-ape and in-cest cases. Also it is against Buddhist religion.
Thailand had only 2nd highest teenage birth rate in SE Asia after Laos.
I suppose in the mongering environment we meet an unduly high proportion of teenage mothers amongst the working girls, with little means of support from family and mostly with no husband.
It surprises me also how many bargirls I have known, have left work to have a baby. At least 3 girls from Crazy House bar left to have a baby that I know of (Bo, May Lee, and Chocolate). I guess these girls are not teens, but still crazy to be having a baby in such a big hurry and potentially wrecking their figures badly. Bo had fabulous D Cups before the baby and horribly saggy afterwards. Added a nose job (used to have nice nose) to look really poor (starfish as well). At least Chocolate is known to have a Thai BF. May Lee was the very pretty one.
I met one bargirl with age late 20s with 3 kids . She was cute but terrible on the bed. Very loose pussy. Tits were saggy of course.
Charles Dickin
08-31-16, 16:54
I'm looking for a naughty full service nuru massage that uses an air bed inflatable mattress.
I have RTFF and can see nuru mentioned generally but not air bed specifically. I probably missed the right reports as I seem to be genetically hopeless when it comes to P4P.
I've tried Cherry Massage Soi 24/1 and Dream Heaven Soi 33. Dream heaven was just a big low bed and Cherry Massage was two single futons jammed together. I still enjoyed both sessions, reports to follow.
Thanks in advance.
Here's a link to the CDC page concerning teen pregnancy. It's been falling for quite a while. But, guess which two ethnicities lead the pack? (Hint: It ain't the white chicks, they're barely ahead of the Asians) And the number one ethnicity isn't a major problem in most other industrialized nations. Funny, that.
http://www.cdc.gov/teenpregnancy/about/
Rag on it all you want, but abstinence has a 100% effectiveness rate. It works every time it's tried. No other form of birth control is as effective. But lack of be / see has virtually nothing to do with why the two main ethnicities have such high incidents of teen pregnancies. Zilch.
No doubt the Thai take their clues too much from the USA, where the same silly and not workable policy is still much the standard.
However American 16 year olds are not dropping so many babies, right? I assume they get abortions instead. Same for my home country.
Sensible parents would get their daughters on the pill, I reckon, and also talk candidly about sex precautions. Forbidding it is clearly useless.
The USA has the highest teen pregnancy rate of all developend countries in the world. Almost 35 per 1000 below 18 year old girls become mothers. That is about a quarter million babies a year! And taking into account that only a little over 50% deliver the babies (the other half have abortions, either induced or spontaneous), that is close to half a million girls under 18 getting pregnant each year. I think it is a lot.
You are absolutely right, but it is not the official US policy. Many states have laws that require schools to give "equal time" to talks about abstinence and contraception. And it is still a sad fact that many parents simply do not do the "sex talk" with their children and leave it to schools to do that (badly).
USA has several ethnic groups so I guess the teenage births will not be evenly distributed among those groups. I certainly was surprised by the rate of babies. I saw U.K. was rated 2nd place behind USA. I also read where Thailand had 43 teenage births (not just pregnancies) per 1000 per year. Almost 1 in every 23 girls. If Thailand population is about 70 million and there are 4 million girls in this group (just a guess), that is about 170 K teenage births per year.
Abortion is illegal in Thailand except for r-ape and in-cest cases. Also it is against Buddhist religion.
Thailand had only 2nd highest teenage birth rate in SE Asia after Laos.
I suppose in the mongering environment we meet an unduly high proportion of teenage mothers amongst the working girls, with little means of support from family and mostly with no husband.
It surprises me also how many bargirls I have known, have left work to have a baby. At least 3 girls from Crazy House bar left to have a baby that I know of (Bo, May Lee, and Chocolate). I guess these girls are not teens, but still crazy to be having a baby in such a big hurry and potentially wrecking their figures badly. Bo had fabulous D Cups before the baby and horribly saggy afterwards. Added a nose job (used to have nice nose) to look really poor (starfish as well). At least Chocolate is known to have a Thai BF. May Lee was the very pretty one.
I met one bargirl with age late 20s with 3 kids . She was cute but terrible on the bed. Very loose pussy. Tits were saggy of course.
I'm looking for a naughty full service nuru massage that uses an air bed inflatable mattress.
I have RTFF and can see nuru mentioned generally but not air bed specifically. I probably missed the right reports as I seem to be genetically hopeless when it comes to P4P.
I've tried Cherry Massage Soi 24/1 and Dream Heaven Soi 33. Dream heaven was just a big low bed and Cherry Massage was two single futons jammed together. I still enjoyed both sessions, reports to follow.
Thanks in advance.You don't say why it has to be an air mattress. So hard to understand your question, unless you are fishing for something. Air mattresses are maintenance problems since they spring leaks. I have had air matresses at some shops. I believe Mitu has it and some other Japanese type of parlors. Soapy Colonze 2 and Emannuelle should have air mattress girls. ChaoPraya 2 should still have it.
I have not tried Mitu yet. I was concerned they advertised that the customer should be still and let the girls do everything. I prefer a more interactive type of session. Mitu is located on the right side of courtyard carpark in front of S33 Hotel (Sukhumvit Soi 33) Japanese red symbol. It says "love and happiness" or something like that (my memory fades). So it is almost next door to Dream Heaven 33. Other guys have tried. Reviews available. Perhaps one of them has tried the air bed body slide?
Rag on it all you want, but abstinence has a 100% effectiveness rate. It works every time it's tried. No other form of birth control is as effective. But lack of be / see has virtually nothing to do with why the two main ethnicities have such high incidents of teen pregnancies. Zilch.That makes me laugh. Abstinence is not workable simply because the girls do not abstain. Drunk girls may not even know what they are doing. You say lack of birth control has nothing to do with incidence of teen pregnancy. So please enlighten us, what it does have to do with? I am sure most of the pregnant girls were not using birth control, or did not know how to use it effectively. I guess you may be talking about USA blacks and Hispanics, rather than Thailand, but I don't see it makes huge difference, unless culturally American teenagers feel they are ready to start a family and get pregnant on purpose. I don't suppose you were suggesting all the girls gave no consent and were effectively rap-ed. There is still morning after pills for these cases. Welfare money? I can't think of much else.
Okay What percentage of pregnancies were due to birth control being used, but failing? I bet that was pretty low. Most girls I talk to that had babies at 16 or 17 (in Thailand) did not use birth control. I do know of the odd girl (in all cases older) that claimed she used the birth control but still got pregnant. There is no government support for single mothers in Thailand. They really have to support themselves, which makes it all the more confusing that they would choose to start a family as a teenager.
Normally condoms are very effective, if after condom failure, they use backup "morning after" pills. Many girls don't do that simply because they lack education or think they will get lucky.
Both the USA and Thailand have been teaching abstinence. Girls are too young to fuck. What a laugh. It has not been working, even if birth rates have been falling. These countries are still far in advance of other countries in the world. I bet they don't focus on abstinence in Scandinavian countries. Just teach the girls to be smarter.
Try telling all the guys here that all women should abstain from sex simply because birth control does not work 100% effectively. Priests are taught to abstain and look at all the warped behaviour that produces.
Charles Dickin
09-01-16, 10:47
You don't say why it has to be an air mattress. So hard to understand your question, unless you are fishing for something.Thanks for replying. Not sure at all what you mean by fishing for something. I have no ulterior motive and only ask about the air mattress because that's what I saw on internet videos and it looked real fun. I've never done naughty stuff on an airbed and want the experience. I think because of the limitations of the bed, the sessions at Cherry and Dream Heaven had very little body to body sliding. A little bit done sideways chest to back and chest to chest. No outer course which I think was the bit I was looking forward to the most.
I tried to find Mitu but failed which is why I ended up at Dream Heaven 33. I see now from your helpful description where I went wrong because I didn't think to look at a carpark. I think I agree with you on a more interactive session. I find Mitu website difficult reading and hard to separate the no hands massage, which does seem totally passive, from the other. I did read several reports saying that only the platinum girls are worth the money but maybe that depends on expectations. Recent posts on the general state of P4P here suggest aim expectations much lower than in the past.
Thanks for the soapies. I didn't consider them because I thought nuru had to be at an oily. Feel silly now! Annoyingly I don't think I can make to those soapies today but I will try when I return next month. I think I read you didn't rate ChaoPraya 2 any more. Your advice has been my cornerstone. Keep writing. I'm rooting for you to track down the good old girls of Crazy House!
I forgot to say in the original post that I did consider whatever Dr BJs is now called but the website put me off with its unflattering pictures and descriptions. And I'm sure I read recently that Snow White is also nuru but on normal bed.
Thanks again.
Manfield04
09-01-16, 16:55
Visited the 101 Premier Massage today in the evening. Did not book anyone before going. Upon reaching there, I was showed a flip file containing profiles of around 10 ladies and the services they provide. Only 2 from their website was in the portfolio. I chose a lady called Lucky but was told she was busy. Then I chose another one called Ran. Her photo is in their website.
Well I paid THB 2,600 for 2 hours lotion massage in shower room. The routine is that the lady will wash you, then on to the bed. The lotion is nothing but nuru gel. Ran has huge boobs but fake. She concentrates on the job. The massage itself is not great. Only thing is that she will slide on you after applying the gel.
The whole thing ended in 90 minutes, so it was no use paying for 2 hours. Others may have used the whole 2 hours, I don't know. Overall it was a new experience. I don't know if I will try it again there.
In the beginning, I had a little difficulty to locate it. I even asked a few people around who seemed not to know. It came to me the idea to either go to Snow White which is at the beginning of Soi 26 or Dream Heaven which is a little further along the same road. May be next time.
Today called in to Mitu. They have blue sign downstairs "Love and Service" and red sign upstairs. I thought to try Nuru but girl of my choice from Photos was Coco and she was not present today. Others' photos were not that special so I assumed real girls would be even less good looking. I was told upstairs is different service but more expensive 3 k to 4 k. Not clear exactly why. I wonder if downstairs price does not include sex or something strange. Anyway maybe Coco another day.
I looked at girls in front of New Massage next to Dream Heaven. One had cherry coloured hair and face was OK. Name Anna perhaps. Went inside to see the lineup. One girl was prettier than Cherry hair. I also noticed her tits were nicer looking than Cherry hair, as Cherry hair clearly had silly coconuts a bit overdone.
So I chose the first girl on the right.
In the room turned out she was all natural. My god not just her face, but her body was very beautiful. Curvy girl small waist with large Bee to small Cee cups very nice shaped.
I had paid 200 extra for jacuzzi room and fortunately it filled fast. In the bath we were getting on well. Before long she had sucumbed to tongue kissing although only lip kissing initially. She was fucking gorgeous for me. Face 8. 5 and body 9 out of 10.
Pussy was also beautiful and very nicely padded. She loved DATY. She liked it done very soft. She also knew how to give soft slow BBBJ, balls tickling and tits brushing the balls during BBBJ. She gave me a nice Nuru gel body slide on the bed, a very firm bed first. I nearly forgot that. No air bed, no worries.
Sex was very GFE. Tight pussy but not scared of dick. Total assessment for non pornstar type session was she was just perfect for me. No faults at all. I'm hooked big time.
She worked previously short while at Dream Heaven. I asked how was the job. She indicated girls had to learn to stand it. Why is that? It seems many guys are very demanding saying that they paid the money and the girl has to do what they want. I instead was extremely nice to the girl and she was likewise happy to be really great for me, because I suggest politely instead of demand. She did not particularly like 69 so I was happy to have her lie down for DATY and have BBBJ seperately. I asked if she was trained as seened to have ability. She claimed her sister ex Dream Heaven taught her.
By being really nice I got a very passionate GFE out of her.
She joins my list of 3 girls being best looking Oily girls I ever had. Performs better than 2 of the other 3 girls. Approx. Equal to my favorite previous Oily girl Bai Fern.
Not easy to get lucky and find such great looking girls in Oilies.
That makes me laugh. Abstinence is not workable simply because the girls do not abstain. Drunk girls may not even know what they are doing. You say lack of birth control has nothing to do with incidence of teen pregnancy. So please enlighten us, what it does have to do with? I am sure most of the pregnant girls were not using birth control, or did not know how to use it effectively. I guess you may be talking about USA blacks and Hispanics, rather than Thailand, but I don't see it makes huge difference, unless culturally American teenagers feel they are ready to start a family and get pregnant on purpose. I don't suppose you were suggesting all the girls gave no consent and were effectively rap-ed. There is still morning after pills for these cases. Welfare money? I can't think of much else.
Okay What percentage of pregnancies were due to birth control being used, but failing? I bet that was pretty low. Most girls I talk to that had babies at 16 or 17 (in Thailand) did not use birth control. I do know of the odd girl (in all cases older) that claimed she used the birth control but still got pregnant. There is no government support for single mothers in Thailand. They really have to support themselves, which makes it all the more confusing that they would choose to start a family as a teenager.
Normally condoms are very effective, if after condom failure, they use backup "morning after" pills. Many girls don't do that simply because they lack education or think they will get lucky.
Both the USA and Thailand have been teaching abstinence. Girls are too young to fuck. What a laugh. It has not been working, even if birth rates have been falling. These countries are still far in advance of other countries in the world. I bet they don't focus on abstinence in Scandinavian countries. Just teach the girls to be smarter.
Try telling all the guys here that all women should abstain from sex simply because birth control does not work 100% effectively. Priests are taught to abstain and look at all the warped behaviour that produces.You yourself said that the births were not distributed equally among all ethnic groups and I showed that you were correct. I presume that you are neither American nor have ever lived in America, nor Mexico, for any length of time.
Every lib I know thinks it's still 1953. Abortion is illegal, birth control is some huge dirty secret and it's up to them to spread the message, and things would be great if only we could "educate" everybody more and more and more. It may surprise you to know that teenagers here all know about birth control. Condoms are available literally everywhere, including most schools. Plan be pills, whatever, are often readily available. Virtually all teens know about this. Obviously knowledge ("education") has not had the desired effect. Why? I personally know teens who got pregnant, and I know they knew about, knew how to use, and knew how to obtain birth control. And still didn't use it. Why?
I'll tell you why. Several reasons, certainly. Young and stupid, sure, goes without saying. Maybe drunk but that doesn't account for that many. The main reason is social approbation. The American left has infantilized blacks to the point where they are responsible for nothing. Babies have been having babies for generations, marrying the state, the fathers are no more than drive-by sperm donors and everybody is thrilled. The Latinizaton of the USA has continued unabated for decades, and it hasn't been by the upper classes, but by the peasant classes. One hallmark of Mexican "peasant" behavior is the passion for family, to the point where many young girls have no other objective in life but to start having kids as soon as possible. The high schools in heavily Latino schools districts here in LA are full of such young girls. And LOS abuelos may give lip service to their disapproval, but are very thrilled when their hija comes home with another blessing from God.
So, yes, a bit of social shame, and keeping one's knees together, goes a long way. A few years ago in Saigon I would ask bar girls about their kids. Admittedly it was a small sample, only a few, but their reaction was 100% consistent. They looked at me like I was crazy. I have no kids! I'm not married! Apparently in VN society teen pregnancy, sans husband, isn't exactly a "good thing. ".
There is a reason that the graph I posted shows the Asians at the bottom, and the whites close behind. There is also a reason the "Hispanics" are at the top, with the blacks a close second. And I maintain that education and BC availability has virtually nothing to do with it, and that culture has almost everything to do with it.
You yourself said that the births were not distributed equally among all ethnic groups and I showed that you were correct. I presume that you are neither American nor have ever lived in America, nor Mexico, for any length of time.
Every lib I know thinks it's still 1953. Abortion is illegal, birth control is some huge dirty secret and it's up to them to spread the message, and things would be great if only we could "educate" everybody more and more and more. It may surprise you to know that teenagers here all know about birth control. Condoms are available literally everywhere, including most schools. Plan be pills, whatever, are often readily available. Virtually all teens know about this. Obviously knowledge ("education") has not had the desired effect. Why? I personally know teens who got pregnant, and I know they knew about, knew how to use, and knew how to obtain birth control. And still didn't use it. Why?
I'll tell you why. Several reasons, certainly. Young and stupid, sure, goes without saying. Maybe drunk but that doesn't account for that many. The main reason is social approbation. The American left has infantilized blacks to the point where they are responsible for nothing. Babies have been having babies for generations, marrying the state, the fathers are no more than drive-by sperm donors and everybody is thrilled. The Latinizaton of the USA has continued unabated for decades, and it hasn't been by the upper classes, but by the peasant classes. One hallmark of Mexican "peasant" behavior is the passion for family, to the point where many young girls have no other objective in life but to start having kids as soon as possible. The high schools in heavily Latino schools districts here in LA are full of such young girls. And LOS abuelos may give lip service to their disapproval, but are very thrilled when their hija comes home with another blessing from God.
So, yes, a bit of social shame, and keeping one's knees together, goes a long way. A few years ago in Saigon I would ask bar girls about their kids. Admittedly it was a small sample, only a few, but their reaction was 100% consistent. They looked at me like I was crazy. I have no kids! I'm not married! Apparently in VN society teen pregnancy, sans husband, isn't exactly a "good thing. ".
There is a reason that the graph I posted shows the Asians at the bottom, and the whites close behind. There is also a reason the "Hispanics" are at the top, with the blacks a close second. And I maintain that education and BC availability has virtually nothing to do with it, and that culture has almost everything to do with it.Not that this discussion has anything to do with Bangkok trip reports or anything, but you do realize the graphs you earlier presented show the birthrate for hispanic and black teens is now lower than it was for non-hispanic whites about twenty years ago, right? How does that enter into your "thinking. ".
I'm looking for a naughty full service nuru massage that uses an air bed inflatable mattress.
I have RTFF and can see nuru mentioned generally but not air bed specifically. I probably missed the right reports as I seem to be genetically hopeless when it comes to P4P.
I've tried Cherry Massage Soi 24/1 and Dream Heaven Soi 33. Dream heaven was just a big low bed and Cherry Massage was two single futons jammed together. I still enjoyed both sessions, reports to follow.
Thanks in advance.Hi, I'll start by saying that I have never had a Nuru massage, I would really like one but just haven't got around to it yet.
I think by an inflatable airbed that you are referring to the kind of small ones that sometimes people use to float on in a swimming pool?? If so, I can the you that you are unlikely to get a service using an inflatable air bed in the Sukhumvit oilies. In my experience the inflatable airbed is a tool of the trade more in the soapies, I had a great session in Suzy's soapy massage in Pattaya in 2001 and more recently in the Bangkok Cozy. The job is that the girl covers you, herself and the airbed in suds and slides herself up and down you. I can't remember if the Nataree girls did this, I don't think they did but am not 100%. If I were you I would head down to the Ratchpadesik (or whatever its called road) and ask in a few soapies.
Many Oilies also have Nuru gel massage but normally not on an air mattress.
Soapy MPs may have body slide in rare cases but usually it is not with Nuru gel rather with soapy suds. Annies has it but on a mat not air bed. Not really satisfactory due to small space and I am tall but also aircon is too cold.
Dr. BJ Nuru alias Chrome bar is better for the body slide but on a mat.
I recall having body slide on an air bed at Geisha massage in a small sub soi of Suk Soi 33. Probably gone by now. Some problems with mattress not staying fully inflated but I fucked her on air mattress anyway. Guitar was cute. She would have become a regular but stopped working there very promptly. She was always late and had too far to travel.
I have had Nuru body slide in other shops like Can Cam and enjoyed. No air mattress I think. Air mattresses are hard to maintain as I previously pointed out. Just a few Soapies have air mattress. You need to know which specific ones or will be disappointed.
15 to 20 years ago I was a Chao Praya 2 regular and had body slide quite often. It was a good line up back then, probably not so great today. If you don't mind voluptuous girls, then will be easy to find one with big tits to do the body slide assuming they still have it. I wasn't into bigger girls so much. I liked slim girl with big natural tits. Ha ha. Harder to find.
Dr BJ alias Wood bar has the special room where for 3000 baht you get two hours including sudsy body slide on an air mattress. I have taken that more than once. Can be food if find a good girl. Of course many won't know how to do it expertly.
The most expert body slides I ever had were at ChaoPraya2 many years ago. Girls need to learn to go slower to make it sexy. Too many girls use their legs to massage but do it far to fast like riding a bicycle.
I looked at girls in front of New Massage next to Dream Heaven. One had cherry coloured hair and face was OK. Name Anna perhaps. Went inside to see the lineup. One girl was prettier than Cherry hair. I also noticed her tits were nicer looking than Cherry hair, as Cherry hair clearly had silly coconuts a bit overdone.
So I chose the first girl on the right.
Slightly confused by this report. Is "New Massage" the name of the place or is it simply a new massage parlor? And what is the name of the girl that you chose in the end? Thanks.
Slightly confused by this report. Is "New Massage" the name of the place or is it simply a new massage parlor? And what is the name of the girl that you chose in the end? Thanks.The shop was called "New Massage" I can remember the girls real name but her working name is escaping me at present. She wasn't that keen to use it. She could not use her real nickname due to another girl already using that name in same Shop.
I got her LINE contact which of course is not showing her working name.
I suggest having a look at line ups of both New Massage and Dream Heaven next to each other and see if any girl looks really great to your taste. I know plenty of others have different taste to me.
Also YMMV with the girl performance. It is very important to make the girl feel like it is going to be a fun session rather than hard work. Then can get the best GFE she will give if the two of you click.
It is not about service for me. Its about having a fun time and making the girl relaxed and even horny.
Anyway girl was normal black Thai hair with slim but curvy figure all natural no baby. No more than 160 cm. I have not yet checked if they have a web site. The dress was open at front showing good sized tits in a bra.
I don't even have phone number for the shop. It will hard to search on web for New Massage.
Love Teen also appeared to have one cutie sitting out the front. Love Teen seems to have moved to other side of the road a bit closer to Sukhumvit and New Massage is located where Love Teen used to be next to Dream Heaven. As my girl moved from Dream Heaven to New Massage, they may have same owner.
I just recalled there is finger in asshole service for customers who want that. I don't take that. One of her fingers had a shorter nail. I prefer to do the fingering.
I did find the web site:
http://newmassages.com/store
I see Anna Cherry hair is shown but my girl does not seem to be pictured or named. Anna looks like her pic reasonably well but has bigger tits now. Implants. I don't really recognise the other girls. Can't say if they were there ir if photoshopping makes them different. I suppose my girl looks similar to Ms Ning but I don't recognise as being the correct girl. So probably just similar look.
Note not all girls pictured actually work in shops. Sometimes the girl may have left the shop long ago but still pictured. I was told Wine in Dream Heaven left there several months ago.
Not that this discussion has anything to do with Bangkok trip reports or anything, but you do realize the graphs you earlier presented show the birthrate for hispanic and black teens is now lower than it was for non-hispanic whites about twenty years ago, right? How does that enter into your "thinking. ".I didn't drag the US and ethnicities into the discussion.
But to your point, one has to condense and summarize. Obviously this isn't the forum for a wide ranging analysis of the social impact of illegal immigration and the effect on the host society. Teen pregnancy has been declining across the board. That's great. In Mexico, proper, the birth rate has been dropping like the proverbial rock. Women are no longer the doormats they were 20 years ago, they are making great societal strides and things are changing. I'm sure this is having an effect on the people coming into the USA, too. However, my overall point still stands. The Hispanic / Black teenage birth rates remain about double that of whites and about triple that of Asians. And I do not believe, in 2014, that lack of education is the reason.
Phordphan,
I don't understand every point you make and some words are spanish but I assume you blame social values and religion for high birth rates. It sounds like teenage pregnancies are not that discouraged in Hispanic communities. Maybe native Indian communities will also have different views.
It is still not clear to me what percentage of the girls are having a baby on purpose, e. G. Deciding to definitely get pregnant. Or do they have attitude that whatever happens is god's will? LOL.
Certainly in the Thai community, teenage pregnancies are highly discouraged. It is shameful. However abortion is even more shameful.
I see the big problem is parents are not saying to their daugthers, hey you need to go on the pill to protect yourself in case you have sex, or at the very least after sex you will need the morning after pills. If the social values were that having sex is not shameful and did not need to be hidden, then many of the Thai pregnancies could be avoided. All girls could be on the pill as a matter of course. Stupidly the parents don't think it is going to happen to their daugther.
Religion should not come into it. Nor should the idea that girls are not old enough to fuck. Biologically they are old enough to have a baby at a very low age but just not old enough to be a proper parent, have no husband, and don't have the means to support themselves and baby and parents and any other hangers on.
Many hookers seem to be supporting several members of a useless family with not much money, often putting older brother or younger sister through school or paying mum's gambling debts or just supporting their own kids without the father who is long gone.
Teenagers have these hormones driving them to want sex badly. The boys think about nothing else. Even some of the girls maybe horny.
Some of us are just sex mad boys stuck in an old body. At least I have never ever got a girl pregnant, so I guess a little more responsible than teenagers.
MichaelSamuel
09-02-16, 04:40
2nd floor mitu. Had best nuru / body slide I have ever had, granted, probably only sampling from 12 times, but she was clearly trained and the gel was better than what other places call nuru. Air mattress was solid and 2 rounds on that never even made it to bed.
I'm looking for a naughty full service nuru massage that uses an air bed inflatable mattress.
I have RTFF and can see nuru mentioned generally but not air bed specifically. I probably missed the right reports as I seem to be genetically hopeless when it comes to P4P.
I've tried Cherry Massage Soi 24/1 and Dream Heaven Soi 33. Dream heaven was just a big low bed and Cherry Massage was two single futons jammed together. I still enjoyed both sessions, reports to follow.
Thanks in advance.
2nd floor mitu. Had best nuru / body slide I have ever had, granted, probably only sampling from 12 times, but she was clearly trained and the gel was better than what other places call nuru. Air mattress was solid and 2 rounds on that never even made it to bed.Do you really understand difference between ground floor and 2nd floor. Is it just a different price for more skilled girls? Or better looking girls? Or extra things available like anal? Any insights?
How wouuld you rate your girl for looks or was that not the most important thing?
The Thai receptionist on ground floor did not seem to be willing to spell out every detail even I could speak Thai very well. She dealt more in vagueness. She did suggest upstairs girls cost more and were more skilled. Skills is not necessarily the most important thing for me. More so chemistry looks and fun.
I never had any problems with the nuru gel. In most places it holds together a little bit like egg white and is slippery like egg white. Also if gets in your mouth no problem. Does not taste bad.
Gannaton48
09-02-16, 08:18
The shop was called "New Massage" I can remember the girls real name but her working name is escaping me at present. She wasn't that keen to use it. She could not use her real nickname due to another girl already using that name in same Shop.
I got her LINE contact which of course is not showing her working name.
I suggest having a look at line ups of both New Massage and Dream Heaven next to each other and see if any girl looks really great to your taste. I know plenty of others have different taste to me.
Also YMMV with the girl performance. It is very important to make the girl feel like it is going to be a fun session rather than hard work. Then can get the best GFE she will give if the two of you click.
It is not about service for me. Its about having a fun time and making the girl relaxed and even horny.
Anyway girl was normal black Thai hair with slim but curvy figure all natural no baby. No more than 160 cm. I have not yet checked if they have a web site. The dress was open at front showing good sized tits in a bra.
I don't even have phone number for the shop. It will hard to search on web for New Massage.
Love Teen also appeared to have one cutie sitting out the front. Love Teen seems to have moved to other side of the road a bit closer to Sukhumvit and New Massage is located where Love Teen used to be next to Dream Heaven. As my girl moved from Dream Heaven to New Massage, they may have same owner.
I just recalled there is finger in asshole service for customers who want that. I don't take that. One of her fingers had a shorter nail. I prefer to do the fingering.
I did find the web site:
http://newmassages.com/store
I see Anna Cherry hair is shown but my girl does not seem to be pictured or named. Anna looks like her pic reasonably well but has bigger tits now. Implants. I don't really recognise the other girls. Can't say if they were there ir if photoshopping makes them different. I suppose my girl looks similar to Ms Ning but I don't recognise as being the correct girl. So probably just similar look.
Note not all girls pictured actually work in shops. Sometimes the girl may have left the shop long ago but still pictured. I was told Wine in Dream Heaven left there several months ago.Syzygies,
I would also like to know which girl that was, since so nice service as you described it is what most of us dream of! If you can't remember her working name, you might take a look at their website and tell us if she is among the pictures? Thanks!
I just recalled there is finger in asshole service for customers who want that. I don't take that. One of her fingers had a shorter nail. I prefer to do the fingering.
So did she let you finger her arse?
So did she let you finger her arse?I did not try to put in there as she did not ask for it. There was no hint that her ass was available in any way. She was not scared of me touching her asshole though or finger gently in the pussy during DATY. I did not try to go too far not expecting her to be porno type girl.
I think this is the right place to go for guys liking GFE but not for exotic porno services. I could be wrong but the girl already said she does not go well with demanding customers. She is better for those just looking for a really sweet girl with good body.
So did she let you finger her arse?Are you just shit -stirring, man?
I think this is the right place to go for guys liking GFE but not for exotic porno services. Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by GFE / Girl Friend Experience in this context? I see this term bandied about on boards like this one but suspect in most cases it doesn't mean much more than one's subjective opinion about a girl who, I don't know, smiles more often than scowls during the session, goes slower and with some modicum of artistry rather than fast and mechanical, something like that. But I could be wrong. Maybe the term is indeed referring to the kind of sex most of us would expect from our real girl friend? But somehow I seriously doubt that really is the case.
Are you just shit -stirring, man?Why would you give a perfectly reasonable response to a perfectly reasonable question and then come out with that four hours later?
Or was it a joke that putting a finger in a girl's arse is 'shit stirring'? I find that as long you don't put it in too deep your finger will remain clean enough.
Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by GFE / Girl Friend Experience in this context?Individually defined; but IMO and briefly:
GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs.
PSE = basically the above plus raunchy kinky stuff like: aggressive style boom-boom, dirty talk / role play, toys, COF / CIM, A+.
SL.
Why would you give a perfectly reasonable response to a perfectly reasonable question and then come out with that four hours later?
Or was it a joke that putting a finger in a girl's arse is 'shit stirring'? It finally dawned on me that perhaps I should not have taken the question too seriously. Anyway I have no problem to finger a girl's ass if she likes it. Some do I guess and I recall one girl requesting it. However I was surprised when she told me why her fingernail was shorter. Did not indicate at all what she liked only she was aware of some guys wanting a certain service.
Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by GFE / Girl Friend Experience in this context? I see this term bandied about on boards like this one but suspect in most cases it doesn't mean much more than one's subjective opinion about a girl who, I don't know, smiles more often than scowls during the session, goes slower and with some modicum of artistry rather than fast and mechanical, something like that. But I could be wrong. Maybe the term is indeed referring to the kind of sex most of us would expect from our real girl friend? But somehow I seriously doubt that really is the case.To me it means that the way the girl behaved was a good as could be expected from a GF or better, so that you felt like she was into it perhaps. I do understand some real GFs are a bit limited in their sexual abandon, so a GFE could actually be more passionate, perhaps. Getting exotic services or a porn star performance is not what I think of as standard GFE. I never had a GF that wanted to ass fucked for example. So that would be a bonus rather than GFE requirement. Technical ability in the BJ is not really a GFE requirement. Not all GFs give the best BBBJs.
So GFE is simply like your were experiencing a girlfriend. I could exclude perhaps the use of condoms, so that GFE does not require bareback FS.
So yes a working girl can be passionately kissing and responsive as much as a real normal girlfriend, or difficult to detect the variation. So they really need to seem horny or as least very willing to qualify as GFE. Most girlfriends I experienced were responsive enough once they got into it, but not always wanting to start a session.
GFE should include reasonable DFK. That is a basic for most guys. Attempting to turn the girl on or get her off should be permitted, even if not successful. DATY should be allowed. Girl should move with sex and not lie like a starfish. These are probably the minimum requirements. Sound effects are allowed. Some hookers moan excessively but it needs to feel real rather than just an act.
I believe it is much easier to get a GFE out of a girl who is not fucking too often. Once she has to a porno session 5 to 8 times per day, you could imagine she might get a bit jaded by the end of the shift. I do not like to be that customer. I prefer hookers who are fresh, and its a bonus if they have not had a fuck for several days which happens in some circumstances, even if not frequent.
Some working girls do tell me they really like sex, some of the time, and some customers. They admit they may not be just going through the motions, which means pulling of a GFE can be easy sometimes, and other times requires incredible acting. Some girls are honest enough (not all), and will say it did not quite work for them to get an orgasm on the occasion. Others will say they don't want one due to being too tired or conserving energy. No big deal since not every GF had an orgasm every time.
I try to give the girl a good fun time as far as that is possible, even though sex could get boring. If she seems to be having fun and a good time, then she is probably achieving GFE. If she seems like she just does the required job, obviously not.
GFE has levels. O.K. , good and super GFE, for example. The more passionate and into it the higher the rating.
O.K. I admit if you happen to have a very multi-orgasmic very sensitive girlfriend, and I have had, then a hooker is going to have difficulty to produce that level. However there are GFs that had the same 2 cums and others that got none. I did experience a wildcat hooker recently, I don't know how many pops if any, but she did seem aggressively into it. Could have been an act, or her normal style.
Anyway the term GFE has been around for a long while to mean a girlfriend approximating experience.
Individually defined; but IMO and briefly:
GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs.
PSE = basically the above plus raunchy kinky stuff like: aggressive style boom-boom, dirty talk / role play, toys, COF / CIM, A+.
SL.
To me it means that the way the girl behaved was a good as could be expected from a GF or better, so that you felt like she was into it perhaps. I do understand some real GFs are a bit limited in their sexual abandon, so a GFE could actually be more passionate, perhaps. Getting exotic services or a porn star performance is not what I think of as standard GFE. I never had a GF that wanted to ass fucked for example. So that would be a bonus rather than GFE requirement. Technical ability in the BJ is not really a GFE requirement. Not all GFs give the best BBBJs.
So GFE is simply like your were experiencing a girlfriend. I could exclude perhaps the use of condoms, so that GFE does not require bareback FS.
So yes a working girl can be passionately kissing and responsive as much as a real normal girlfriend, or difficult to detect the variation. So they really need to seem horny or as least very willing to qualify as GFE. Most girlfriends I experienced were responsive enough once they got into it, but not always wanting to start a session.
GFE should include reasonable DFK. That is a basic for most guys. Attempting to turn the girl on or get her off should be permitted, even if not successful. DATY should be allowed. Girl should move with sex and not lie like a starfish. These are probably the minimum requirements. Sound effects are allowed. Some hookers moan excessively but it needs to feel real rather than just an act.
I believe it is much easier to get a GFE out of a girl who is not fucking too often. Once she has to a porno session 5 to 8 times per day, you could imagine she might get a bit jaded by the end of the shift. I do not like to be that customer. I prefer hookers who are fresh, and its a bonus if they have not had a fuck for several days which happens in some circumstances, even if not frequent.
Some working girls do tell me they really like sex, some of the time, and some customers. They admit they may not be just going through the motions, which means pulling of a GFE can be easy sometimes, and other times requires incredible acting. Some girls are honest enough (not all), and will say it did not quite work for them to get an orgasm on the occasion. Others will say they don't want one due to being too tired or conserving energy. No big deal since not every GF had an orgasm every time.
I try to give the girl a good fun time as far as that is possible, even though sex could get boring. If she seems to be having fun and a good time, then she is probably achieving GFE. If she seems like she just does the required job, obviously not.
GFE has levels. O.K. , good and super GFE, for example. The more passionate and into it the higher the rating.
O.K. I admit if you happen to have a very multi-orgasmic very sensitive girlfriend, and I have had, then a hooker is going to have difficulty to produce that level. However there are GFs that had the same 2 cums and others that got none. I did experience a wildcat hooker recently, I don't know how many pops if any, but she did seem aggressively into it. Could have been an act, or her normal style.
Anyway the term GFE has been around for a long while to mean a girlfriend approximating experience.I can't think of a reason I would ever tout a P4 P experience as being a GFE and not mean she allowed FS to completion with no condom. Perhaps see it as merely a more politically correct coded way to refer to BBFS but with the additional inference of taking it to "completion" (not asked to pull out). As opposed to PSE, a GFE in my book would mean she was up for the more standard "girlfriend" behaviors of BBFS and BBBJ+CIM without hassle or discussion but not necessarily Anal. Are there many men in the world who would imagine or tolerate a girlfriend not taking care of the birth control business enough to easily and without hassle allow BBFS with them or who would continue to accept a girlfriend who routinely pulls her mouth away from a BJ when he came? Personally, I wouldn't believe a girlfriend of mine is all that into me if she didn't just swallow instead of spit at the end of a BJ but understand that many a girlfriend out there does not swallow for their men in the same way that many do not engage in Anal with them. But I believe BBFS and BBBJ+CIM are much more commonly accepted and expected girlfriend behaviors.
On the other hand, PSE would mean to me no condom everything was on the menu, including Anal, whether indulged in or not, and threesomes, along with a wilder variety of positions and activities along the way, say from CG to Mish to Doggie to BBBJ to CG to BBBJ+CIM, for example. I doubt many men expect their girlfriends to behave that way. But unless they are watching much more boring porn than I have bothered to sit through for more than 5 minutes, I believe that is Porn Star behavior. And, yes, swallowing instead of spitting at the end of a BJ is what I would generally mean if I touted a girl as behaving like a Porn Star.
We already have terms for more girlfriend-related behaviors like DFK and we have the term Starfish for a girl who almost literally just lays there without even pretending passion for the experience. Otherwise, the idea of "passion" or her "being into it" is way too subjective to mean anything at all for the next customer who walks into a venue or chooses a certain girl. Some men are aware of and appreciate a quiet, understated kind of passion and might even see it as more "genuine" than a P4 P girl who flails about, loud moaning, groaning and such. So the idea of a GFE meaning the girl seemed into it more than just for the money might merely mean that particular customer was more sensitive to her subtle responses than the next guy would be. The next guy expecting her to be "passionate" or "into it" could easily wonder where is the flailing, huffing, puffing, moaning and groaning he was expecting.
Individually defined; but IMO and briefly:
GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs.
PSE = basically the above plus raunchy kinky stuff like: aggressive style boom-boom, dirty talk / role play, toys, COF / CIM, A+.
SL.This would be my definition as well.
It finally dawned on me that perhaps I should not have taken the question too seriously. Anyway I have no problem to finger a girl's ass if she likes it. Some do I guess and I recall one girl requesting it. However I was surprised when she told me why her fingernail was shorter. Did not indicate at all what she liked only she was aware of some guys wanting a certain service.Having your knob in a girl's pussy and a finger in her arse is great, that's why I asked. I'm sure a lot of guys like doing that. A lot of girls do too but some will refuse it, probably because they're worried that you'll stick your dick in there next.
The thing is attractive girls are ten a penny in Bangkok so I look for a girl that will do that little bit extra.
The thing is attractive girls are ten a penny in Bangkok so I look for a girl that will do that little bit extra.Yes, they are, but there are very few incredibly attractive gals working in the P4 P industry these days. Go to Thonglor on a Fri / Sat night and you will see amazing looking women. Go to malls and look at some of the amazing Korean tourist chicks. Sadly when you return to any of the P4 P venues the women don't look so good. I guess I am way over that Isaan look for the most part. Just does nothing for me. And I think the longer you stay here the less it appeals to you. A friend's Thai gal once said to me, "When farangs first come to Thailand their eyes don't work. " She is correct.
Asian Rain
09-03-16, 06:58
Having your knob in a girl's pussy and a finger in her arse is greatIndeed it can be fun. My favorite is to have my thumb digit-deep while in doggy. I can then grip the small of the back and work the girl's ass in sync with my thrusts. Illustration attached. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
Yes, they are, but there are very few incredibly attractive gals working in the P4 P industry these days. Go to Thonglor on a Fri / Sat night and you will see amazing looking women. Go to malls and look at some of the amazing Korean tourist chicks. Sadly when you return to any of the P4 P venues the women don't look so good. I guess I am way over that Isaan look for the most part. Just does nothing for me. And I think the longer you stay here the less it appeals to you. A friend's Thai gal once said to me, "When farangs first come to Thailand their eyes don't work. " She is correct.Well yes, very few really stunning girls in P4 P, not 10 a penny at all, and the surgeries are definitely not helping. Western guys definitely have different taste to Thais. Thais hate brown skin, western guys generally don't mind and will accept any colour. Thais appreciate the westernised surgeries look with light skin. I don't. They like to say that the Farangs have to take all the girls that the Thais throw back. Thai men seem to often go for Chinese looking rounder faced girls with light skin, usually big tits and not too slim. Not my taste at all.
I have met some all natural slim Coyote girls that were very much my taste and Thai taste as well. Palm who used to be at Mercury had many fans whether western or Asian. She was excessively cute tall model. Unfortuantely have no pic.
I used to see a lot of western guys walking with really ugly looking girls to my taste, however, recently I have seen many guys walking with quite attractive girls. I don't know what has changed. Surely it is not my eyesight. LOL However there is still wide variation in taste of guys.
I don't like broad squashed noses or broad jaws but fortunately many Isaan girls do not have that. Broad jaws and square face that I don't like are actually more prevalent in Chiang Mai. 95%+ of the Bangkok P4 P girls are from Isaan so better get used to them. I suppose quite a few Northern girls in the Soapies but rarely in bars or Oilies. Met a P4 P "Bangkok" girl the other day and was quite surprised and even sceptical. LOL.
When first came to Thailand, I spent quite a bit of time with a group of Southern Thai girls working at Thermae Soapy. Hardly meet southern girls in the modern day. They don't come to Bangkok if they work P4 P. Maybe Hat Yai or Phuket.
My eyesight was not always great when I first came to Thailand. LOL. I know when I look at pics of some girls I took 20 years ago, or even 15 years ago. Some but not all, look really ordinary now. So we get more fussy for sure.
Indeed it can be fun. My favorite is to have my thumb digit-deep while in doggy. I can then grip the small of the back and work the girl's ass in sync with my thrusts. Illustration attached. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.Yes that is a way that helps me to cum. Plenty of girls don't seem to mind it, which surprised me a little. Others would not allow. I like the girl to tickle my balls at same time if possible to really send me to peak.
Well yes, very few really stunning girls in P4 P, not 10 a penny at all, and the surgeries are definitely not helping. Western guys definitely have different taste to Thais. Thais hate brown skin, western guys generally don't mind and will accept any colour. Thais appreciate the westernised surgeries look with light skin. I don't. They like to say that the Farangs have to take all the girls that the Thais throw back. Thai men seem to often go for Chinese looking rounder faced girls with light skin, usually big tits and not too slim. Not my taste at all.
I have met some all natural slim Coyote girls that were very much my taste and Thai taste as well. Palm who used to be at Mercury had many fans whether western or Asian. She was excessively cute tall model. Unfortuantely have no pic.
I used to see a lot of western guys walking with really ugly looking girls to my taste, however, recently I have seen many guys walking with quite attractive girls. I don't know what has changed. Surely it is not my eyesight. LOL However there is still wide variation in taste of guys.
I don't like broad squashed noses or broad jaws but fortunately many Isaan girls do not have that. Broad jaws and square face that I don't like are actually more prevalent in Chiang Mai. 95%+ of the Bangkok P4 P girls are from Isaan so better get used to them. I suppose quite a few Northern girls in the Soapies but rarely in bars or Oilies. Met a P4 P "Bangkok" girl the other day and was quite surprised and even sceptical. LOL.
When first came to Thailand, I spent quite a bit of time with a group of Southern Thai girls working at Thermae Soapy. Hardly meet southern girls in the modern day. They don't come to Bangkok if they work P4 P. Maybe Hat Yai or Phuket.
My eyesight was not always great when I first came to Thailand. LOL. I know when I look at pics of some girls I took 20 years ago, or even 15 years ago. Some but not all, look really ordinary now. So we get more fussy for sure.Guess I like that Chinese look. The gals is this picture are just about perfect. You don't find gals like this in Thailand too often. The one in the middle is perfect.
https://www.4shared.com/photo/ExZddeu2/car-show-girls-at-the-asian-ph.htm
I can't think of a reason I would ever tout a P4 P experience as being a GFE and not mean she allowed FS to completion with no condom. Perhaps see it as merely a more politically correct coded way to refer to BBFS but with the additional inference of taking it to "completion" (not asked to pull out). As opposed to PSE, a GFE in my book would mean she was up for the more standard "girlfriend" behaviors of BBFS and BBBJ+CIM without hassle or discussion but not necessarily Anal. I don't believe CIM is a typical GF behavior at all. I recall only one or two semi-GFs into that. Might be a requirement for you but I don't expect it to be completely normal and I don't need it from a GF. Not many girls really like it, and not many girls are that into anal either. These are more Pornstar type girls for me.
I am well aware you are BBFS sex man, but I am not doing that with every girl I meet. One GF was open to BBFS only after she saw my test results. One girl fucked me BB first and wanted to see the test results later just to be sure before making BBFS the habit.
I am happy with Sunlover2's definitions.
Guess I like that Chinese look. The gals is this picture are just about perfect. You don't find gals like this in Thailand too often. The one in the middle is perfect.
https://www.4shared.com/photo/ExZddeu2/car-show-girls-at-the-asian-ph.htmThese are exceptional Chinese girls, not average. The faces are not so round. Sure they look good. The one in the middle has a slightly unusual nose (maybe operated I am not sure). Not much different to a pretty Thai look for the middle one (others more distinctly Chinese look). The bodies are excellent more curvy than you average chinese girl. Nice "gap" allowed by thighs not to fat. Pity we can't see the asses too. LOL. I would definitely be happy to take number 2 and 3 (on the right).
I love the actress Shu Gi as well. Some Chinese girls are hot. Some are horrible, with slit eyes, round puffy face, straight body and flat ass.
I don't believe CIM is a typical GF behavior at all. I recall only one or two semi-GFs into that. Might be a requirement for you but I don't expect it to be completely normal and I don't need it from a GF. Not many girls really like it, and not many girls are that into anal either. These are more Pornstar type girls for me.
I am well aware you are BBFS sex man, but I am not doing that with every girl I meet. One GF was open to BBFS only after she saw my test results. One girl fucked me BB first and wanted to see the test results later just to be sure before making BBFS the habit.
I am happy with Sunlover2's definitions.I agree with you that Anal is more porn star behavior. But I would assume a girl that I considered my "girlfriend" had little to no real interest in considering me her "boyfriend" if she were still cum-dodging at the end of a BJ after being with her regularly for, oh, a month or so. It would be clear as day she just wasn't all that into me. In the first week or two, I would probably not come to that conclusion. But after a full month of seeing a girl regularly enough for me to consider her my girlfriend, cum-dodging is not happening without me already seriously shopping for a better girlfriend quite a bit more into me than that.
I would consider Sunlover2's definition of a GFE, "GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs", to be about what I'd feared most on these boards were talking about when they praised a girl's GFE. But for me that would be rock bottom basic ok / acceptable P4 P behavior, maybe a notch above total Starfish. Subtract any one of those, IMO, minimal attributes and I wouldn't consider a repeat even for free.
I don't believe CIM is a typical GF behavior at all. I recall only one or two semi-GFs into that. Might be a requirement for you but I don't expect it to be completely normal and I don't need it from a GF. Not many girls really like it, and not many girls are that into anal either. These are more Pornstar type girls for me.
I am well aware you are BBFS sex man, but I am not doing that with every girl I meet. One GF was open to BBFS only after she saw my test results. One girl fucked me BB first and wanted to see the test results later just to be sure before making BBFS the habit.
I am happy with Sunlover2's definitions.Every GF I ever had was not the least comephobic. CIM was always part of the program. With most swallowing as well.
Every GF I ever had was not the least comephobic. CIM was always part of the program. With most swallowing as well.Same here. If CIM is so uncommon or exotic as to be considered Pornstar behavior, I guess that means virtually every girl working in the many BJ bars around the world, not just in Thailand, would be considered a pornstar level performer. But we know they are not. That would also go for more than half of the go-go dancers I have barfined throughout Thailand and the Philippines, the beer bar girls, freelancers, etc. Yet, I would not consider the vast majority of them to be pornstar level providers.
I for one don't even think a discussion of "blowjobs" ought to require the additional term "CIM", since CIM to my way of thinking is what a blowjob is all about, although I recognize that many of us on these boards refer to what is actually merely oral foreplay as a "BBBJ" sometimes. A blowjob that finishes any other way than in the mouth is really a handjob (or however it finishes) with some oral foreplay thrown in. Apparently, patrons of the BJ bars of Thailand, the Philippines, etc. agree with me on that point because I don't know anyone who refers to those BJ Bars as "BJ+CIM Bars" even though that is the standard for how BJs are finished in those bars. We just refer to them as BJ Bars because everyone knows that is what a real BJ is and how a real BJ finishes.
I don't even think I have ever needed a girl to be a bone fide "girlfriend" in order to automatically finish her BJ with CIM. That has been the standard way of finishing blowjobs throughout my life even with one night stands I've met at a party or in a restaurant / bar. In the USA, the reason I have heard for the prevalence of CIM AND Swallowing the cum as often as "because I like / love you" was that it was simply so much cleaner, neater and less messy to catch it all in their mouth and swallow it down the hatch quickly and efficiently. An utterly prosaic and pragmatic bit of reasoning, really. Nothing to do with trying to emulate pornstar behavior. LOL The best way for your girl to fill a room with the smell of cum and get it all over her face, hands, the sheets, you and seemingly everywhere else is to not capture it all in her mouth (and, preferably, swallow it) but instead to dodge it at the last second and let it fly wherever it goes.
Every GF I ever had was not the least comephobic. CIM was always part of the program. With most swallowing as well.I am thinking regional and cultural differences. For those of us stuck in Western world hell it seems easier to get A+ play than CIM with a GF. Thai ladies seem to prefer CIM because they don't want to mess up their hair and makeup 555.
As for TG P4 P I think you can count on CIM 100% in a BJ bar, but less than 100% in other situations unless specifically discussed. YMMV.
SL.
Every GF I ever had was not the least comephobic. CIM was always part of the program. With most swallowing as well.LOL. I don't talk about your GF I talk about GFs in general. I never tried to cum in mouth of a GF who did not come from P4 P or requested it. I assume the average guy does not get this either.
CIM is not incompatible with GFE just not guaranteed. Plenty of GFs do not provide it.
Look for guys not service oriented GFE is not much about a specific lost of services other than fuck and DFK. Its more if she gives the impression that both of you can enjoy the session somewhat well, enjoy I understand some GFs maybe do not enjoy. Its the impression of her eagerness to please and lose herself a little rather than perform procedural tasks or services.
If I say a girl was GFE does not mean I asked if she does CIM. I might not know the full set of services she can do. It wasn't relevant.
A correction. I believe I got mixed up. New Massage in Soi 33 has two girls with red hair. One of them on web site Anna I believe now does not have silicones. It should be Naen is the red haired girl with big silicones. Not sure which of the two is more pretty due to the mix up. Possibly both.
The owner of New Massage may be a relative of Dream Heaven owner. Only has been going a few months but some nice girls.
I am a confirmed customer. Rooms I used were nice. Maybe not all are that good.
Gannaton48
09-03-16, 18:14
A correction. I believe I got mixed up. New Massage in Soi 33 has two girls with red hair. One of them on web site Anna I believe now does not have silicones. It should be Naen is the red haired girl with big silicones. Not sure which of the two is more pretty due to the mix up. Possibly both.
The owner of New Massage may be a relative of Dream Heaven owner. Only has been going a few months but some nice girls.
I am a confirmed customer. Rooms I used were nice. Maybe not all are that good.Syzygies,
We still wait on the name of your girl in this shop. Obviously you can't remember but maybe she is on the website? As said in a previous mail, I will be happy to find such a GFE on my coming trip to BKK. WOuld you please share the full info? Thanks!
A correction. I believe I got mixed up. New Massage in Soi 33 has two girls with red hair. One of them on web site Anna I believe now does not have silicones. It should be Naen is the red haired girl with big silicones. Not sure which of the two is more pretty due to the mix up. Possibly both.
The owner of New Massage may be a relative of Dream Heaven owner. Only has been going a few months but some nice girls.
I am a confirmed customer. Rooms I used were nice. Maybe not all are that good.Is New Massage a multi-pop shop? I've a few days in BKK at the end of the month and am weighing options. This place is intriguing.
(Long-time lurker, I know. Promise to post a trip report this time.).
LOL. I don't talk about your GF I talk about GFs in general. I never tried to cum in mouth of a GF who did not come from P4 P or requested it. I assume the average guy does not get this either.
CIM is not incompatible with GFE just not guaranteed. Plenty of GFs do not provide it.
Look for guys not service oriented GFE is not much about a specific lost of services other than fuck and DFK. Its more if she gives the impression that both of you can enjoy the session somewhat well, enjoy I understand some GFs maybe do not enjoy. Its the impression of her eagerness to please and lose herself a little rather than perform procedural tasks or services.
If I say a girl was GFE does not mean I asked if she does CIM. I might not know the full set of services she can do. It wasn't relevant.I am talking about every GF I have ever had, not P4 P gals. All my friends at home wives and GFs all CIM without exception.
CIM seems such a waste, just letting it disappear like that. I like to build up 3 days of cum and shoot it all over her tits like Peter North. I would do it on her face but it's difficult to find a girl with a pretty face who'll let me do that.
Member #4698
09-03-16, 19:10
All my friends at home wives and GFs all CIM without exception.Sure, all my real GF's including the ex-wife gave CIM BJ's, but with varying degrees of enthusiasm. The ex was very good at it and swallowed naturally and without hesitation, but some GF's did not swallow at all and spit it out. Of course I prefer the swallowers, but I never broke up with a girlfriend solely on account her BJ skills were not top rated. I am talking about real girlfriends, not honky tonk bar girl relations and I am not talking about casual liaisons either. I may be shallow, but .... 555.
CIM seems such a wasteWith only a handful of exceptions, no pun intended, Cumming in the vagina is the only way I go nowadays. I can't afford to waste a single drop.
CIM is not incompatible with GFE just not guaranteed. Plenty of GFs do not provide it.Of course BJ bar ladies are expected to do CIM. Since they are advertised to be single service expert providers they are expected to take that activity to the limit.
And depending on where we are in the relationship I have had GF's try to get away with the dreaded NWE (near wife experience) which is more or less basic disinterest.
SL.
Apple Court
09-03-16, 20:38
Guess I like that Chinese look. You don't find gals like this in Thailand too often.
https://www.4shared.com/photo/ExZddeu2/car-show-girls-at-the-asian-ph.htmIf you look closely, the girl on the left has a 3 prong electrical cord coming out of her vag. I'm still trying to figure out what that's all about!
If you look closely, the girl on the left has a 3 prong electrical cord coming out of her vag. I'm still trying to figure out what that's all about!I can't see it that clearly. Could be something like period padding.
Is New Massage a multi-pop shop? I've a few days in BKK at the end of the month and am weighing options. This place is intriguing.
I hate this question. It always arises. What is going to happen? Suppose you booked a 2 hour session, and you cum on the first time she touches your leg. What are you going to do with the remaining 2 hours? No fuck at all? Of course not. However if you want to fuck solid, for the entire 2 hours the girl is more than likely not going to co-operate.
Just be reasonable, I would suggest. I am never asking a girl how many pops are allowed, since I take a loooong time to cum. It would be totally unreasonable for me to ask for a 2nd in this circumstance. We already fucked for a time much longer than normal or average I suspect (based on what others tell me). I even take a break from fucking for a few minutes and then resume again. This causes my sensitivity to improve after the break.
There have been occasions in my history when I was able to Cum fairly easily and I there was plenty of time left so did get hard again and have a 2nd round. This is unusual for me, so hence I know little about the number of pops topic. I am always more than happy to service the girl to give her multiple pops if she wants them.
I have no clues at all about shop rules for number of pops allowed. I have no clue how any given girl would decide what is reasonable. More than likely depends on the particular girl, whether she likes you or not, whether you are a pounder or not, etc.
Only certain special shops more or less indicate that you can fuck for the entire time if you want to. New Massage would not be in that category.
I hate this question. It always arises. What is going to happen? Suppose you booked a 2 hour session, and you cum on the first time she touches your leg. What are you going to do with the remaining 2 hours? No fuck at all? Of course not. However if you want to fuck solid, for the entire 2 hours the girl is more than likely not going to co-operate.
Just be reasonable, I would suggest. I am never asking a girl how many pops are allowed, since I take a loooong time to cum. It would be totally unreasonable for me to ask for a 2nd in this circumstance. We already fucked for a time much longer than normal or average I suspect (based on what others tell me). I even take a break from fucking for a few minutes and then resume again. This causes my sensitivity to improve after the break.
There have been occasions in my history when I was able to Cum fairly easily and I there was plenty of time left so did get hard again and have a 2nd round. This is unusual for me, so hence I know little about the number of pops topic. I am always more than happy to service the girl to give her multiple pops if she wants them.
I have no clues at all about shop rules for number of pops allowed. I have no clue how any given girl would decide what is reasonable. More than likely depends on the particular girl, whether she likes you or not, whether you are a pounder or not, etc.
Only certain special shops more or less indicate that you can fuck for the entire time if you want to. New Massage would not be in that category.There is always Viagra and red bull available.
Crocodilexp
09-03-16, 23:49
I hate this question (about multiple pops)... Just be reasonable, I would suggest. You can hate it all you want, but multiple pops are the #1 crucial question when choosing a naughty massage parlor.
Once upon a time, when a shag cost 1000 baht or so and girls were generally far less eager to leave (if not better in bed), the advice to just be reasonable might have made some sense. These days, an average monger is overwhelmingly likely to get a 20 min session for 2500 baht if they fail to assert their expectations. Unless the girls looks exceptional (almost none do), if there's no option of the 2nd pop, that's remarkably crappy value, I'd rather wank and have 3 great dinners.
Of course, if you can only pop once within 2 h (however long it takes you), the question is moot, but most mongers are not of this variety, especially with the cheap and effective medication available these days.
Is New Massage a multi-pop shop? I've a few days in BKK at the end of the month and am weighing options. This place is intriguing.
I hate this question. It always arises. It is a reasonable and useful question, which is why it is often asked about particular shops. The answer can range from "generally yes" at the PSE shops to "maybe" to "no," at some of the less service oriented shops. There is nothing tricky or complicated about this.
I, however, am unfamiliar with the practices at New Massage, so cannot answer the question.
You can hate it all you want, but multiple pops are the #1 crucial question when choosing a naughty massage parlor.
.So does the answer to the question only depend on shop policy or perhaps depends on the girl as well? I don't know.
The question does not seem to come up so much with gogo girls. So does that mean 1 pop is always assumed no matter how fast it was?
Do guys ever pretend not to have popped in order to get another one?
The pricing at the MPs seems unfair on the girl. I go for one hour and one pop for 1900 baht. The girl get 1500 baht. Some other guy goes for 2 hours and 5 pops for 2300 baht. The girl gets 1500 baht. All right, the customer has the discretion to tip but if you're a new customer the girl has no idea whether you're going to or not. A few places like Miss BJ are more specific in their pricing, charging more for extra pops, and while the customers might grumble it seems a lot fairer.
The pricing at the MPs seems unfair on the girl. I go for one hour and one pop for 1900 baht. The girl get 1500 baht. Some other guy goes for 2 hours and 5 pops for 2300 baht. The girl gets 1500 baht. All right, the customer has the discretion to tip but if you're a new customer the girl has no idea whether you're going to or not. A few places like Miss BJ are more specific in their pricing, charging more for extra pops, and while the customers might grumble it seems a lot fairer.You are not correct about the girl take. It depends a lot on the particular shop.
At New massage, the girl take depends a lot on the cost of the booking. But sure on a per time basis for two hours she makes less per hour. It is not fair if guy wants to fuck the entire time regardless of the number of pops.
If the fee is 1900, most shops will not pay the girl 1500. Perhpas you refer to a particular shop. Many shops the girl cut is less. 1400 is not uncommon but she gets charged for basket supplies and other things as well.
Some shops the girl can be getting only 1000 out of an over 2000 price, I. E. Less than half in some shops, e. G. Annies. Sone Oilies the girl cut is low too. Loli-tas was another shop where girl cut was rather low.
There are relatively few shops where a girl gets 1500 out of the all in fee.
I vary my tip fir girl based on her cut if known and based on how hard I made her work and how much time. I try to be very fair. I want girls to be keen on having me as a customer despite fucking for long duration. If not, I would not get the best GFE. I have been refused by girls before, but rarely fortunately, not counting Thermae.
If the fee is 1900, most shops will not pay the girl 1500. Perhpas you refer to a particular shop. We're not talking about Annies or BJ bars here but the oil massage places. In a typical shop like Snow White or Cherry there's a price list for the massage of 400,600 or 800 baht for 60,90 and 120 minutes. You can either pay the money for the massage and give the girl 1500 baht after or you can pay the total up front. Either way I'm fairly sure the 1500 goes straight to the girl.
We're not talking about Annies or BJ bars here but the oil massage places. In a typical shop like Snow White or Cherry there's a price list for the massage of 400,600 or 800 baht for 60,90 and 120 minutes. You can either pay the money for the massage and give the girl 1500 baht after or you can pay the total up front. Either way I'm fairly sure the 1500 goes straight to the girl.Yes these shops are unusual. Most Oilies are paying the girl less than 1500. 1400 is common and some even less.
Annies has little difference to some Oilies in my view other than has a fishbowl. However I don't want this to send the topic in a Tangent. I could be biased as I never ask for a real Thai massage.
I have very nice Jacuzzi bath in a VIP room in New Massage and had a Nuru body slide. The girl slid around on me using her ass and pussy and tits quite erotically. Who needs an "official" soapy. Oilies can be same or better. VIP room was good standard too. Perhaps bed a bit on firm side. Cost 200 Baht extra. Soapy fishbowl behind glass is a waste of time if cannot sit outside the fishbowl for long period watching the girls and having a drink.
Yes these shops are unusual. Most Oilies are paying the girl less than 1500. 1400 is common and some even less.
Annies has little difference to some Oilies in my view other than has a fishbowl. However I don't want this to send the topic in a Tangent. I could be biased as I never ask for a real Thai massage.
I have very nice Jacuzzi bath in a VIP room in New Massage and had a Nuru body slide. The girl slid around on me using her ass and pussy and tits quite erotically. Who needs an "official" soapy. Oilies can be same or better. VIP room was good standard too. Perhaps bed a bit on firm side. Cost 200 Baht extra. Soapy fishbowl behind glass is a waste of time if cannot sit outside the fishbowl for long period watching the girls and having a drink.All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.
You can hate it all you want, but multiple pops are the #1 crucial question when choosing a naughty massage parlor.
Once upon a time, when a shag cost 1000 baht or so and girls were generally far less eager to leave (if not better in bed), the advice to just be reasonable might have made some sense. These days, an average monger is overwhelmingly likely to get a 20 min session for 2500 baht if they fail to assert their expectations. Unless the girls looks exceptional (almost none do), if there's no option of the 2nd pop, that's remarkably crappy value, I'd rather wank and have 3 great dinners.
Of course, if you can only pop once within 2 h (however long it takes you), the question is moot, but most mongers are not of this variety, especially with the cheap and effective medication available these days.Agreed! MSOG is essential in an oily. If not, what's the point of paying all that money for 2 hrs? I'm with you. I'd rather have a wank, a few craft beers, and some food.
All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.Maybe and almost all other Oilies they get less (from all in price where no option to pay girl separately). Never heard them at other Oilies say get as much as 1500. You don't have to believe. You can ask at other standard Oilies with all in price but I presume you don't use those type of shops.
We could have a separate thread for the special group of PSE Oilies, not just isolating Tulip, and another thread for all the other Oilies, like Addict, Dream Heaven, Orient, Pink, Can Cam, Angels, EZ etc.
So it doesn't make much sense that at the PSE oilies the girl gets 1500 baht regardless of time, number of shots or number of orifices filled. I can only assume that those who do go for a 2 hour Viagra-fuelled binge are tipping generously because there's no shortage of girls in those places so they're clearly happy enough with the pay.
Other places have an extra charge for an extra shot or A+. That seems reasonable to me but presumably the business model of the PSE places is to maximise customer numbers and keep them coming back rather than squeeze as much money as possible out of each visit.
Asian Rain
09-04-16, 10:18
We could have a separate thread for the special group of PSE Oilies, not just isolating Tulip, and another thread for all the other Oilies, like Addict, Dream Heaven, Orient, Pink, Can Cam, Angels, EZ etc.Why not make a User Blog thread? My biggest challenge with being an ISG member is that good information gets buried under useless reports, quips, bickering, newbie questions, etc. , making the signal-to-noise ratio a struggle. For example, the current back-and-forth on "how much the girl gets" is really about as useful as a tit on my elbow. I have just started a blog on Cart Bars, which will be restricted largely to factual REPORTS. All sources welcome. As an authoritative figure on Crazy House, you could summarize all the good reports you have made on CH and then we can make builds. In fact, I have some reports to make on CH, so if you care to make a blog, it would be very useful to see the good information organized and built in one spot without buildup of useless topping. More importantly, any less-than-useful reports (e.g. discussion on comparisons of Cowboy to Nana) or troll-like behavior can be deleted as we should be moderators. The general Bangkok Thread is okay, but it is all over the place.
Like what Bkkdog is doing for Sephan Kwai venues. It's great.
Same for the thread on massage places. A blog restricted to factual REPORTS would be a blessing. IMHO this would make ISG a much more informative resource and worth contributing, especially for regular contributors. For consideration. AR.
Same for the thread on massage places. A blog restricted to factual REPORTS would be a blessing. IMHO this would make ISG a much more informative resource and worth contributing, especially for regular contributors. For consideration. AR.What do you mean by Factual reports exactly. Isn't it all just stories? Do you mean guys should stick to what actually happened to them rather than things they were told (hearsay)? With as little opinion creeping in as possible? E. g. We should not say the girl was cute or ugly? We cannot say the bar was too dark or the music sucked? Perhaps you mean experience reports with some perceptions are better than arguing about some girl or place that someone did not visit or try?
Not sure I get it. I do understand that reports should have information or data that can be used. Sometimes we report information that we have heard. This cannot be interpreted as pure fact, but sometimes the stories are consistent enough, to assume there is a chance they maybe correct.
I must admit I don't like guys casting aspersions on places or girls that they did not personally try out. I really used to hate Nic Frenchy quoting the post made by some dipstick on another forum but not willing to own the opinion, or commenting on character of a girl he never tried from scuttlebutt, rather than his own opinion from his own experience. The later were valuable and funny, so why he did the other is a big mystery.
Most of us don't accept anything as gospel, till we see it for ourselves. Healthy scepticism. However I use reviews to decide what things to maybe try for myself.
Asian Rain
09-04-16, 12:08
Not sure I get it.You might want to take a look at my attempt at a starter blog for reports on Cart Bars to understand better. Or check out what Bkkdog is doing for Saphan Kwai. Basically just report like we are reporting now, but just to a single thread which makes it easier to see the information about a specific topic in a specific place. For example, I was trying to look through your threads recently for a particular point on CH, but your reports are buried and dispersed under dozens of other reports, discussions, etc. That made it quite a chore to find. Anyway, give it a try if you like.
By the way, any experiences on cart bars by anyone are welcome. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
FritsVanegter
09-04-16, 14:30
Hello,
I did visit this massageshop several times. They are located in Soi 22 Sukhumvit (a 20 min walk from BTS) but they are planning to move to Soi 6 in October.
They have a website. They had 4 ladies which are into BDSM a few weeks ago but not all of them appear on their website. So far I only did go there for BDSM. I did try with all these 4 ladies and for me Soda is my favorite.
They have 2 special, what they call kinky rooms. Before sessions starts you can choose which kind of activities you like at the reception desk. English skills are very good for Thai standards!
You could send them sms in the morning to ask who can booked for a specific time later that day.
There are other ladies too that will just do more ordinary things like BJ or prostate massage.
I never did try these ladies maybe next time I am in BKK.
Greetings,
Frits.
Apple Court
09-04-16, 20:59
All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.My long time regular told me the house keeps Bt200 at the PSE oily she's at, so she gets 1300.
She sometimes comes by on her day off, as after work she's too tired to be at her best.
I am talking about every GF I have ever had, not P4 P gals. All my friends at home wives and GFs all CIM without exception.Ditto again. Both eventual wives did from the very beginning, including my Thai wife. As did every girl I dated long enough, several months at least, to consider her a "girlfriend" (10 or so over the decades I suppose) plus, with rare exception, the hundreds of one / two-night stands I had in between. And a significant percentage of those GFs and brief encounters were not born and raised USA girls, but girls quite recently from Latin America, China, Japan, U. K. , the Philippines, etc.
I don't cite that as boasting but merely as further support for how common is a CIM finish to a BJ in this world.
The only place where girls I met considered CIM a BIG DEAL has been Thailand. And only about 1/3 of them are so opposed to it. Even more than mere CIM, II think I was in my late 30's before I first witnessed a girl spit out my cum into a tissue instead of swallow it. Yep, that was in Thailand, in a back room of one of those Soi Post Office or wherever bars in Pattaya.
After a short trip to Pattaya, I traveled to Bangkok and spend my first day at Ratchata and the "soapy massage" headquarters. Got off the taxi at Huay Kuang Station and walked towards Nataree Massage. I can confirm it is 100% shut down. My intend was to get to Poseidon, but was walking past Emmanuelle and decided to go in and take a look. I was immediately handed off to mamasan who recommended someone right away, just a few seconds from my entry. Her English was poor, and she just kept repeating a number, something like be-19, saying how good she was. I could barely make out who she was talking to. I asked to sit down and a waitress came and asked if I wanted a drink. I ordered a beer so that I could take a break and get my bearings straight. There were about 20 girls there at 5 PM, which was less than I had anticipated. There were a bit far away, and not behind any glass screen, so I guess this was the "fishbowl" that people refer to. Picking someone from a lineup is always challenging for me, I don't know if its just information overload or what. I stuck with my philosophy of picking someone who makes good eye contact and smiles. Most were just looking at their phones, and some were staring around looking bored. I think it was explained to me as a two-tier price structure of 2000 bahts and 2500 bahts. I eventually chose one of the girls at 2500 bahts who was thin, long black hair pulled back, fake MM boobs, and cute face, probably with some work done there as well, and reminded me a bit of Kim Kardashian, LOL. Paid for the session and my drink up front, and we went upstairs to one of the jacuzzi rooms. Mamasan shared that all sessions are 90 min.
Room was nicely decorated, and it takes a while to get the jacuzzi filled up, so there was some time for chatting, having a drink, and getting to know each other. Soapy massage began in the tub with some soft massages of the arms and legs, and then the torso, followed by cleaning off the private areas with some brief tugging of junior. A sensual and relaxing experience, but nothing over the top. After drying off and heading toward the full sized bed, there was another round of massage of the back, and then the session begins after flipping over. Unfortunately this was a covered BJ, and it lasted for about 2 minutes. She then climbed on top and started grinding away, clearly with intent on getting a quick release from me. This doesn't work on me, so we switch to Mish, and then doggie. I finished back in MISH and finished in the cover after about 10 min. In between the soapy massage and the session, she was constantly checking her phone and texts. She apologized for this, and explained that one of her regulars showed up asking for her, so she had to coordinate the times. All in all, a fun session with a good looking lady, and although I would have preferred more GFE, it was a relaxing experience nonetheless. Being able to communicate helped, as her English was conversational, which is better than the other girls I've met so far.
I then walked around and had dinner at a nearby seafood restaurant called the Deep Fried Crab, which is a top-10 restaurant in BKK and very crowded.
After dinner, I headed to Poseidon, which is still about 5 blocks away from Huay Kwang station. This is a huge 11 floor facility, and upon entering, mamasan showed me the lineup to my immediate right. There were about 20 girls there, some older, some young ones, but almost all with lots of makeup contributing a fake barbie doll look. I asked mamasan if there was another floor, and she said yes, more girls upstairs, but they were higher priced. Downstairs started at 2200 bahts up to 2500 bahts, and upstairs started at 3000 bahts and went up to 5 K or 6 K bahts for the "models". I decided to check out the upstairs selection, and after a couple of minutes, I chose a young lady with long black hair, nice smile, a bit darker complexioned, I think she said her name was "Am" or "Un". Mamasan tells me she is at 3800 bahts for a 90 min session. The first floor girls are 2 hour sessions. Same routine as Emmanuelle, and this girl spoke much less English, although she is playful and fun-loving. The actual session was pretty good, still a covered BBBJ, and she also tries the trick of getting on top and grinding away right after the brief BJ. It makes me wonder whether the quick thrusting of CG makes many guys cum right away?! We went through all the positions, and I ended up finishing with a self HJ and her licking my nipples. Another quick rinse and I was out on my way.
A couple of take away. Soapy massages are a good mix of variety and the session offers a bit more than just the quick bang and go. The actual session is usually not that great, as some of these girls see quite a few clients a day, especially the popular ones. The girl at Emmanuelle told me mamsasan tries to make quick recommendations to even out people's schedules, since some are quite popular and some are not. Both girls I saw appeared to follow a script, and they were somewhat mechanical. They were friendly and nice, so I did tip them before I left. Both facilities were quite good. Spend some time picking the right girl, and don't rush through things. Happy Mongering!
Gannaton48
09-05-16, 08:31
Ditto again. Both eventual wives did from the very beginning, including my Thai wife. As did every girl I dated long enough, several months at least, to consider her a "girlfriend" (10 or so over the decades I suppose) plus, with rare exception, the hundreds of one / two-night stands I had in between. And a significant percentage of those GFs and brief encounters were not born and raised USA girls, but girls quite recently from Latin America, China, Japan, U. K. , the Philippines, etc.
I don't cite that as boasting but merely as further support for how common is a CIM finish to a BJ in this world.
The only place where girls I met considered CIM a BIG DEAL has been Thailand. And only about 1/3 of them are so opposed to it. Even more than mere CIM, II think I was in my late 30's before I first witnessed a girl spit out my cum into a tissue instead of swallow it. Yep, that was in Thailand, in a back room of one of those Soi Post Office or wherever bars in Pattaya.CIM and swallowing is very different. In my experience worldwide, very few would swallow but a reasonable part would do CIM (but must agree upon before). However, I also noticed that more girls reject CIM (think at Nataree! And that's worldwide (fear sexual diseases?
The only place where girls I met considered CIM a BIG DEAL has been Thailand. And only about 1/3 of them are so opposed to it. Even more than mere CIM, II think I was in my late 30's before I first witnessed a girl spit out my cum into a tissue instead of swallow it. Yep, that was in Thailand, in a back room of one of those Soi Post Office or wherever bars in Pattaya.Agreed. Thailand is the only place I have ever had gals pull away at the moment of truth. Gals her are amazingly come-phobic. Most women love to play with it and have it on their skin for awhile. Here they can't wait to get it off of them.
Agreed. Thailand is the only place I have ever had gals pull away at the moment of truth. Gals her are amazingly come-phobic. Most women love to play with it and have it on their skin for awhile. Here they can't wait to get it off of them.Forgive my lack of experience. I only ever had one western GF / wife (mistake). It never occurred to me to try something nasty like CIM at a young age. I can't even remember anything specific about the wife's BBBJ. Was she any good at it? I can't remember. Probably didn't last that long. Too many years ago. I have been happily divorced for 25 years now. She did not like DATY, which was just as well, since she tasted real bad (unclean).
Many or most of my Asian GFs never suggested that CIM would be allowed, so yes possibly several may have been cum phobic. Some from a pretty conservative background, met overseas. I never particularly thought about having CIM either. It just wasn't my special need.
I don't recall Thai girlfriends having a phobia about cum on body. Surely girls see that as no different to cum in pussy or even easier to clean up. Obviously that is very different to cum on face or in hair. That would be nasty.
I am cum phobic too. I don't want to drink it. It has a sickly aroma, not too different to something like weak Chlorine.
Well known Tulip girl, years ago, did tell me the cum taste varies a lot and that some guys taste moderately acceptable and some taste really horrible, never delicious. Perhaps dependent on diet or smoking, or beer, or curries, or who knows? She was willing to take CIM, but never to swallow. The girls would try to skilfully hide that they spat it out. I recall one ISG writer proudly stating the girl swallowed, when all her regulars knew that she never did. She fooled him and ejected it quietly and quickly when he wasn't looking. Yes some swallow and some don't. I haven't surveyed the percentages. I don't really care. It is just not a given that Thai girls will want to it, even in PSE shops. I don't see the point to it or why some guys find it a thrill, other than conditioning by porno movies. Weird Psychology.
Most monger guys had a crap sex life with the western wife, I would guess. That is what drove them to switch to Thai or Asian girls. If my sex life with Western Girl was great, I probably never would have got started with the Thai girls. Hookers from my home country were also crap. Mostly the Asian hookers there were vastly superior. Hookers from East Europe and South America are also great. Nothing like from the homeland.
Forgive my lack of experience. I only ever had one western GF / wife (mistake). It never occurred to me to try something nasty like CIM at a young age. I can't even remember anything specific about the wife's BBBJ. Was she any good at it? I can't remember. Probably didn't last that long. Too many years ago. I have been happily divorced for 25 years now. She did not like DATY, which was just as well, since she tasted real bad (unclean).
Many or most of my Asian GFs never suggested that CIM would be allowed, so yes possibly several may have been cum phobic. Some from a pretty conservative background, met overseas. I never particularly thought about having CIM either. It just wasn't my special need.
I don't recall Thai girlfriends having a phobia about cum on body. Surely girls see that as no different to cum in pussy or even easier to clean up. Obviously that is very different to cum on face or in hair. That would be nasty.
I am cum phobic too. I don't want to drink it. It has a sickly aroma, not too different to something like weak Chlorine.
Well known Tulip girl, years ago, did tell me the cum taste varies a lot and that some guys taste moderately acceptable and some taste really horrible, never delicious. Perhaps dependent on diet or smoking, or beer, or curries, or who knows? She was willing to take CIM, but never to swallow. The girls would try to skilfully hide that they spat it out. I recall one ISG writer proudly stating the girl swallowed, when all her regulars knew that she never did. She fooled him and ejected it quietly and quickly when he wasn't looking. Yes some swallow and some don't. I haven't surveyed the percentages. I don't really care. It is just not a given that Thai girls will want to it, even in PSE shops. I don't see the point to it or why some guys find it a thrill, other than conditioning by porno movies. Weird Psychology.
Most monger guys had a crap sex life with the western wife, I would guess. That is what drove them to switch to Thai or Asian girls. If my sex life with Western Girl was great, I probably never would have got started with the Thai girls. Hookers from my home country were also crap. Mostly the Asian hookers there were vastly superior. Hookers from East Europe and South America are also great. Nothing like from the homeland.Nasty? Do you consider the fluid that flows from a gal's vagina to be "nasty" as well? I would imagine not, and I would imagine that you like the taste of it and the feel of it on your tongue. Same holds true for almost all gals in regards to semen (except Thais) that I have encountered. My US gals all loved to have it on their bodies, in their mouths, to play with it, etc. I had a great sex life with all my Western partners. In fact, I would rate almost all of them as far better and more skilled lovers than 99% of the gals I have had in Thailand. They also understood the psychology of sex and seduction to a far greater degree than Thai gals. Viets, Indos, and Koreans all seem to "get it" far better than Thais. So why did I come over here. Availability, quantity, price, and the simple fact that Thai gals are really pretty pleasant if you want to live with a gal. Far easier to get along with than Western women. It was not because they were great in bed, which honestly, most are not.
Cum is not biologically designed to be a food or beverage.For that matter, neither are sweat, her saliva and pussy juice. However, I assume you don't keep a spittoon on hand and place next to you when you engage in Cat Bath, DFK or DATY, right?
Some random thoughts about getting BJ+CIM and Swallowing for men who want it from their women;.
I suppose a man could wait politely like a wallflower until he finally meets a girl who "wants to" give a proper BJ with CIM and / or swallowing or one who "suggests it". It does happen. But rarely probably. I assure you that isn't how I racked up and continue to enjoy the many BJ+CIM / Swallowing that I enjoy. Part of the reason some women decide they will engage in BJ+CIM / Swallow is because they are finding themselves with a man who has the balls to ASK them for it and EXPECTS them to do it. Never underestimate the sexual turn on of that for women.
The majority of times, you need to TELL the girl how sexy it is / would be if she did that for you. Then ASK her to do it for you. Sometimes, that is all she will need to give it a try, not wanting to initiate it for fear of being thought too experienced, horny or slutty. It is a bit like shaved pussies in that regard. Many women don't want to show up on day one with a shaved pussy because she thinks YOU will think she is some kind of pervert. But tell her you like it that way, ask her to shave for you and, more often than not, you will never see a follicle down there again and she is relieved that you asked her to do it. You are now her "excuse" for doing it. Sure, you will meet women who will not do either no matter how often you mention it. Luckily, there are many fish in the sea of life and it is easy to move on to the next one.
You guys who love to DATY, you know that titillating, pleasurable feeling of power and control it gives you to bring your girl to a shattering orgasm through the artistry of your lips, tongue, perhaps fingers as well? The feeling of her body tensing up, the vaginal muscles tightening, the juices flowing a bit more and often even a strange new taste of it at such a moment or through her multiple orgasms? Well, guess what. Many, many, many women discover they enjoy exactly that same feeling when their man has ASKED them to finish a BJ like an adult women with CIM / Swallowing for perhaps the first time in their lives and not to panic and run across the room like a frightened child hiding behind an umbrella. They become as addicted to it as many of US become addicted to DATY to orgasm.
Case in point is occurring RIGHT NOW in my life. There is a very cute 22 year old Thai girl I met on one of the dating sites. While chatting on Line I told her how sexy I thought it was when a girl I like gives me a BJ+CIM+Swallow. She was horrified! Never tried it, never wanted to try it, never thought she would do it. Long story short she gave it the old college try on our second date. It was a clumsy and botched ending the first time she tried it. The second time she was good enough to compare with some of the lesser but decent jobs I'd gotten at Som's Haven, Kasalong and Lollita's, I kid you not. By her third try she has now become one of the best BJ-ers I have ever had, swallows like a champ, never spills a drop. AND, this is the moral of the story, she can't stop talking about it on Line with me now. Is constantly talking about how she misses "eating, swallowing my water" (talking about cum here, folks), can't wait to see me again to do it. She is not the only cute young Thai girl that has reacted that way over the past year either.
Stories like that will be familiar to many if not most guys reading it, I am sure. For many girls, after they discover the tremendous feeling of power, control and "giving" that comes with feeling their man's cock shoot warm jets of cum into their mouth and swallowing, knowing that SHE made that happen proactively, not by just laying there with her legs spread open, it can become as addictive to them as DATY to orgasm is for many of us. Maybe even more so.
Nasty? Do you consider the fluid that flows from a gal's vagina to be "nasty" as well? I would imagine not, and I would imagine that you like the taste of it and the feel of it on your tongue. Same holds true for almost all gals in regards to semen (except Thais) that I have encountered. My US gals all loved to have it on their bodies, in their mouths, to play with it, etc. I had a great sex life with all my Western partners. In fact, I would rate almost all of them as far better and more skilled lovers than 99% of the gals I have had in Thailand. They also understood the psychology of sex and seduction to a far greater degree than Thai gals. Viets, Indos, and Koreans all seem to "get it" far better than Thais. So why did I come over here. Availability, quantity, price, and the simple fact that Thai gals are really pretty pleasant if you want to live with a gal. Far easier to get along with than Western women. It was not because they were great in bed, which honestly, most are not.LOL. Goatscrot, we were obviously composing more-or-less the same message at the same time. And I am sure we are far more the rule than the exception in and outside this message board on that point.
Nasty? Do you consider the fluid that flows from a gal's vagina to be "nasty" as well? I would imagine not, and I would imagine that you like the taste of it and the feel of it on your tongue. Same holds true for almost all gals in regards to semen (except Thais) that I have encountered. My US gals all loved to have it on their bodies, in their mouths, to play with it, etc. I had a great sex life with all my Western partners. In fact, I would rate almost all of them as far better and more skilled lovers than 99% of the gals I have had in Thailand. They also understood the psychology of sex and seduction to a far greater degree than Thai gals. Viets, Indos, and Koreans all seem to "get it" far better than Thais. So why did I come over here. Availability, quantity, price, and the simple fact that Thai gals are really pretty pleasant if you want to live with a gal. Far easier to get along with than Western women. It was not because they were great in bed, which honestly, most are not.We are talking male cum here.
It's not at all the same thing. Analogies prove nothing. The Tulip girl told me the taste can be average to bad. Are you contradicting that and claiming its real yummy from your own experience of trying it? Or all girls tell you its yummy? I don't know. I just dislike the smell of it. My nose is quite sensitive. I often have serious problems of feeling nauseous when bad underarm odours are nearby, e. G. In BTS or 7 Eleven.
Normal pussy secretion has very little taste if girl is very clean and has no medical problems. Then the pussy has no odour. My ex wife wasn't, so I did not like to go down on her. Yes it tasted bad and it had bad odour.
Anyway, It is not for me to decide if girls like getting cum in their mouths or like swallowing it. It is for them to decide what they like. In German FKKs you have to pay 50 Euros extra for the girl to do CIM (no swallow). That suggests they don't see it as a very normal desirable thing to do as part of the sex service. I suspect therefore that girls do it, when it is expected of them, because they want to give good service, not because they really enjoy it. Meanwhile there is no official charge for kissing so presumably kissing is seen as less to put up with. Anal charge is 100 Euros extra. So that suggests CIM is seen as only half as difficult to tolerate as anal. Wild speculation.
You can claim girls should like it all you like, but its pointless. They will decide what they like. Not every Thai girlfriend is taking CIM, whether they ought to or not. Many of them simply are not forced to do it. They have choice. Why do so many girls spit it out? The answer is real obvious. They don't like it.
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