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Whoreman
10-24-16, 05:12
Actually they went to payment up front because guys were trying to walk out without paying. BTW, Asian dudes don't tip.Some 'Asian dudes' definitely tip. There's an English-language Singaporean mongers forum where they discuss it in exactly the same way we do, I. E. Tip if you want. They tend to avoid arguing about it though. The Japanese seem to like handing out silly tips in go go bars so whatever they do in Japan some of them clearly do things differently here. If westerners tipped but east Asians didn't we'd be more popular with the girls wouldn't we? But it seems a lot of girls have the opposite preference.

I personally don't tip because I always choose the one hour, one pop option. It seems a bit ridiculous to tip when you've asked for and been given the minimum like that. But going back to the newbie who started this discussion, he's looking for multiple pops of A+, so presumably he's going for the 2 hour option. If I chose the best looking girl in a PSE place, someone like Ninja in Snow White or May in Mango, and wanted 2 hours of anal sex with her, I'd give a tip if service was good. When guys are throwing 2500+ baht for 30 minutes with a starfish go go girl, is 750 baht an hour for PSE anal sex a fair price? If the girl was one of the older ones with damaged bodies then she's happy just to get a customer so I wouldn't tip. If on the other hand a girl gets 5 customers a day just because of her looks then you might want to consider tipping if she's given you 2 hours of great anal sex or great service in some other way. It's up to you but at the end of the session we want the girl to be happy, don't we?

Whoreman
10-24-16, 05:15
I just don't get why someone would try and leave without paying. If service is bad, go downstairs and complain and if the service is good, Pay up and be happy to pay up.There are some real low lives mongering in Thailand. A lot of them end up penniless, trying to get free sex for as long as possible before jumping from the 20th floor of a condo. I'm happy to pay up front in an MP. You might even find the manageress will be more sympathetic if you've paid in advance and then make a complaint because then she knows you're not just some conman looking to get out of paying. Although service standards vary, I've never wanted a refund in any MP in Thailand.

Syzygies
10-24-16, 05:56
Actually they went to payment up front because guys were trying to walk out without paying. BTW, Asian dudes don't tip.Yes, over many years I heard plenty of stories, quiet believable, from girls about guys having their fuck and then suddenly discovering they did not have any money to pay. They believed they could get a freebie. This was in Soapies, Oilies, gogo girls, you name it. These stories were from girls that did not require me to pay in advance, just their experiences with other guys. Mostly the girls were not able to do much about it. In recent years only one panaroid gogo girl was really trying hard to get me to pay in advance after her recent bad experiences with someone else. I did not give in since I did not want to start the precedent too readily. Seems all the rest trust me. I think that the more stingy, arrogant and asshole like, that a guy acts, the more the girl will look for upfront payment.

I remember Soapies' girls who often complained about Hi So guys supposedly close to the owners who thought they could come in, get a group of girls to make sex party, and then pay the girls nothing at all.

Another common incidence, were guys deciding to adjust the price significantly downward, which may not have been justified in the girl's mind but justified somehow in the guys mind because she did not allow anal, did not enough 3 pops, or did not swallow, whatever. I even heard of guys saying they did not enjoy it, so did not feel had to pay.

Bad behavior of a small percentage of customers caused some MPs to change to upfront charging (Soapies were almost always upfront for the base fee), and for extras to be added into the total upfront fee. Even the Thais had a bad reputation at soapies for failing to pay for the sex, simply because nothing would happen when they refused to pay. Finally in the last 3 years or so, we have seen gogos try to get all money out of the customer before he gets the sex, opening to the possibility of a barfined girl doing a runner before she provides the sex. Fortunately I have not had to succumb to paying up front in gogo bars other than the BF part and drinks. Still plenty of girls did not specify a price for the ST, but that is somewhat less frequent than in old times.

For most MPs, like Whor-eman, I have got used to paying up front, since most do not provide an option otherwise, or perhaps they would if they know me, but makes little difference to me. There is never any guarantee the girl will be a fantastic GFE, and will not be dick scared, and is not too tired, too sick, or too lazy to do a good session. It's a crap shoot. However it is less likely that the girl will do a runner than with a gogo girl or freelancer. Sometimes get a session that is a complete waste of money but fortunately infrequent these days. Recall a really crap session at Pink massage with a timid dick scared girl, who some other ISGer rated as really good. Recall a really crap "stuff around session" with Vodka at Cherry massage was it, where others again thought she was O.K. Who knows what went wrong? I guess she was exhausted before we started. There are no guarantees, however we still end up having to pay the minimum for the fuck, even did not get very far with the fuck at all.

I never take LT with a girl unless I know her well. I have got used to idea I don't actually need to really sleep with girls, only to have them available for sex.

Goatscrot
10-24-16, 16:10
Yes, over many years I heard plenty of stories, quiet believable, from girls about guys having their fuck and then suddenly discovering they did not have any money to pay. They believed they could get a freebie. This was in Soapies, Oilies, gogo girls, you name it. These stories were from girls that did not require me to pay in advance, just their experiences with other guys. Mostly the girls were not able to do much about it. In recent years only one panaroid gogo girl was really trying hard to get me to pay in advance after her recent bad experiences with someone else. I did not give in since I did not want to start the precedent too readily. Seems all the rest trust me. I think that the more stingy, arrogant and asshole like, that a guy acts, the more the girl will look for upfront payment.

I remember Soapies' girls who often complained about Hi So guys supposedly close to the owners who thought they could come in, get a group of girls to make sex party, and then pay the girls nothing at all.

Another common incidence, were guys deciding to adjust the price significantly downward, which may not have been justified in the girl's mind but justified somehow in the guys mind because she did not allow anal, did not enough 3 pops, or did not swallow, whatever. I even heard of guys saying they did not enjoy it, so did not feel had to pay.

Bad behavior of a small percentage of customers caused some MPs to change to upfront charging (Soapies were almost always upfront for the base fee), and for extras to be added into the total upfront fee. Even the Thais had a bad reputation at soapies for failing to pay for the sex, simply because nothing would happen when they refused to pay. Finally in the last 3 years or so, we have seen gogos try to get all money out of the customer before he gets the sex, opening to the possibility of a barfined girl doing a runner before she provides the sex. Fortunately I have not had to succumb to paying up front in gogo bars other than the BF part and drinks. Still plenty of girls did not specify a price for the ST, but that is somewhat less frequent than in old times.

For most MPs, like Whor-eman, I have got used to paying up front, since most do not provide an option otherwise, or perhaps they would if they know me, but makes little difference to me. There is never any guarantee the girl will be a fantastic GFE, and will not be dick scared, and is not too tired, too sick, or too lazy to do a good session. It's a crap shoot. However it is less likely that the girl will do a runner than with a gogo girl or freelancer. Sometimes get a session that is a complete waste of money but fortunately infrequent these days. Recall a really crap session at Pink massage with a timid dick scared girl, who some other ISGer rated as really good. Recall a really crap "stuff around session" with Vodka at Cherry massage was it, where others again thought she was O.K. Who knows what went wrong? I guess she was exhausted before we started. There are no guarantees, however we still end up having to pay the minimum for the fuck, even did not get very far with the fuck at all.

I never take LT with a girl unless I know her well. I have got used to idea I don't actually need to really sleep with girls, only to have them available for sex.I never pay up front in the PSE oilies and have never been asked to. Probably because I have been a customer for 10 years and am known. I have on occasion called a session off due to bad baby scars, finding warts on a gal, etc. In those cases I have tipped a small amount to the gal and that is all I have paid. Never even questioned about it when I walk out at the desk. I am very hesitant to go to a place where I have to pay up front because I have given away the only bargaining chip I have.

NationDefender
10-24-16, 22:04
In Nana, behind the alley at Business inn, there's a place where the girls wear a green T-shirt and black trousers. It is a place you should try your luck if you happen to go there.

Once I went with a good friend of mine (a girl) to that place for a full body massage. We didn't get a chance to select, but the girls they provided were pretty, bubbly and petite. We both got into a small room (naked). After about 30 mins, the girl who massaged my friend asked whether we were married and wanted to know our relationship wit each other and asked whether we needed any special service for an additional cost of 2000 bts. The girl who came with me said she'd watch and pay but she hesitated to join the action. So the those two girls came near me and took their t's off and started touching my pvts and started the special svc while my friend was watching. The experience was amazing. Total damage was about 3500 bts+ tips.

LA Guy 5
10-25-16, 14:08
Yes, over many years I heard plenty of stories, quiet believable, from girls about guys having their fuck and then suddenly discovering they did not have any money to pay. They believed they could get a freebie. This was in Soapies, Oilies, gogo girls, you name it. Did you really mean to include soapies? I have had sessions in maybe ten different soapies over the course of the last 13 or 14 years and don't recall a single instance where I wasn't required to pay in advance. That, of course, is in contrast to PSE oilies (although they are changing to advance payment if they don't know you) as well as go go girls, who usually have not had a problem with payment after the fact (I haven't been with a go go girl in maybe eight months, so it is possible this is changing).

Traveler1234
10-25-16, 19:27
Did you really mean to include soapies? I have had sessions in maybe ten different soapies over the course of the last 13 or 14 years and don't recall a single instance where I wasn't required to pay in advance. Back in the 'good old days', circa 1970-90's' you paid after the 2 hour session.

Macho Dik
10-26-16, 06:53
Dear all,

I wonder if Nataree is open these days? How about any advise of soapy passage near Centara grand in central world Pathumwan?

Cheers,

MD.

Goatscrot
10-26-16, 08:18
Some 'Asian dudes' definitely tip. There's an English-language Singaporean mongers forum where they discuss it in exactly the same way we do, I. E. Tip if you want. They tend to avoid arguing about it though. The Japanese seem to like handing out silly tips in go go bars so whatever they do in Japan some of them clearly do things differently here. If westerners tipped but east Asians didn't we'd be more popular with the girls wouldn't we? But it seems a lot of girls have the opposite preference.

I personally don't tip because I always choose the one hour, one pop option. It seems a bit ridiculous to tip when you've asked for and been given the minimum like that. But going back to the newbie who started this discussion, he's looking for multiple pops of A+, so presumably he's going for the 2 hour option. If I chose the best looking girl in a PSE place, someone like Ninja in Snow White or May in Mango, and wanted 2 hours of anal sex with her, I'd give a tip if service was good. When guys are throwing 2500+ baht for 30 minutes with a starfish go go girl, is 750 baht an hour for PSE anal sex a fair price? If the girl was one of the older ones with damaged bodies then she's happy just to get a customer so I wouldn't tip. If on the other hand a girl gets 5 customers a day just because of her looks then you might want to consider tipping if she's given you 2 hours of great anal sex or great service in some other way. It's up to you but at the end of the session we want the girl to be happy, don't we?Actually at the end of the session I want to be happy. I want the girl to do her job with all that entails and I will pay the standard rate. I usually pop twice, be it 60 or 90 min, and have never tipped at an oily. Of course I am not expecting 90 min of anal either. And never seem to have issues with service on repeats. I do think speaking Thai and having a light hearted fun disposition helps as well. I think Asians tend to pay the rate asked at GoGos and tend not to try to bargain. That being said, most of the oilies have gone to a pay upfront system as that is what most Asian dudes are more comfortable with.

LA Guy 5
10-26-16, 08:42
Back in the 'good old days', circa 1970-90's' you paid after the 2 hour session.That is interesting. On the other hand, if the owners or management of the soapies back then were similar to those today, I suspect refusing to pay after a session would have had some serious risks. But I wasn't there then, so I don't really know.

Syzygies
10-26-16, 13:02
Dear all,

I wonder if Nataree is open these days? How about any advise of soapy passage near Centara grand in central world Pathumwan?

Cheers,

MD.I would not want to stay there without good reason, however if I had to, I would try Soapy Sao Botan, not too far away by motorcycle if traffic is bad.

Soon I will stay in Sathorn. I have special reason. Near to the girl.

Traveler1234
10-26-16, 14:34
I think Asians tend to pay the rate asked at GoGos and tend not to try to bargain. That being said, most of the oilies have gone to a pay upfront system as that is what most Asian dudes are more comfortable with.That's over generalization, IMHO. Asians are not a monolithic group.

For sure Chinese and Indians bargain as hard as any ethnic group. Each with their respective pay scale. If you read the Jakarta thread, you'll see a hilarious post by resident expert who now no longer tips because he say a group of Chinese get the same service and pay half the price he did.

Koreans, Japanese have a different mind set and pay scale too.

Tofolo
10-26-16, 16:29
So what is the Point of the Special "No hands" girls, do they really fail to use their hands and everything with mouth, pussy, boobs and ass? I love massage only if hands and feet are not involved. LOL.

Maybe in this type of place, GFE is a bit too much to expect?This no-hands thing on the mitu website is also a mystery to me. In fact the two times I've been there they didn't mention this as an option. The only price choice was between the category of the girl, e. G gold silver bronze. When the girls got started, all hands were on.

Tofolo
10-26-16, 16:39
So A+ with a Mitu sideline girl? That would be interesting, first I think I have heard about that. Did you ask about A+ beforehand or just an added bonus from her?Nope I didn't ask beforehand. While going doggy style I asked if she was OK and she happily took the request. The way she managed it, that was definitely not something new or unusual for her. But you're right the first girl I had at Mitu I didn't even bother asking.

Bigstud
10-27-16, 07:30
This no-hands thing on the mitu website is also a mystery to me. In fact the two times I've been there they didn't mention this as an option. The only price choice was between the category of the girl, e. G gold silver bronze. When the girls got started, all hands were on.I've had a few hot sessions at Mitu. The "no-hands" thing pertains to the dude, not the girl! It means that the guy doesn't have to lift a finger (if he doesn't want to) and just enjoy the sliding, rimming, riding, cumming, etc.

Fast Eddie 48
10-30-16, 23:25
Back in the 'good old days', circa 1970-90's' you paid after the 2 hour session.To Traveler.

I think it depend on the soapie I always pay after at Tulip the manager know me, other place like cherry and Mango sometime that I insist on paying after they told me I must paid upfront.

Fast Eddie 48.

Syzygies
10-31-16, 10:40
Back in the 'good old days', circa 1970-90's' you paid after the 2 hour session.Can you give example and the price.

I remember going to Thermae Soapy in 1991 and possibly paying the girl separately for sex, but I can't remember the price. I may have done Darling also and Vilunda. I also tried rub and tug at Chawala. I went to a soapy in Soi 2 year 1983, not Annies, but I believe paid for massage up front. No idea how much extra for sex.

I think generally sex prices were negotiated with girls, privately, however problems that some could not speak any English, right?

So I would have thought most Soapies in those days, still paid up front for just the massge. I could be wrong, not gaving sampled enough Soapies till a much later date. Mid to late nineties I certainly paid up front for soapy session but then gave the girl 1 K for sex separately.

Traveler1234
10-31-16, 15:28
Can you give example and the price.
.Darling. Behind old Robinson Department store in Patpong.

Bangkok Cozy. Fish bowl and sideliners with their own private rooms and large jacuzzi.

Can't remember prices, believe it was either 800 or 1200 per session, including FS, etc.

Back those days (late 70's when I first started visiting), not even sure there were oilies, only soapies??? Patpong was in it's heyday, Soi Cowboy and Nana infants, LOL.

Paolo99
10-31-16, 16:33
BB was busy and Yaya was quite unpleasant to me in the reception for no reason at all. I can understand why those two don't get reviewed much. Yaya is quite pretty but she came across as having a really foul personality and I imagine her sister is the same. It might be that Cherry's shop does not insist on some of their girls to try to put the customer at ease. I had a girl in Cherry's massage (Cathy) a few weeks ago, and the beginning of the session was very odd. Normally in all the massage shops I have been (at least in Bangkok) , all the girls are very polite and put an effort on that part of the service. Here I went directly to the shop to book her the day before, and the moment I arrived for my session, she did not even great me. She took me upstairs and did not even talk to me apart to say that she comes back (when she went take her stuffs). In fact she did not even talk until we get in the shower together. I was the one who talked to her and tried to make her feel more comfortable. Then she slowly loosened up and became a lot more enjoyable. That girl has a very beautiful body and is a lot more cute in real than her picture on the website. I don't think she can be PSE but at least I enjoyed my 2 pops but unfortunately she is not A+. Her pussy was great and she gave me a very good blowjob for about 10 minutes for my second round. The downsides were that she can barely speak English and she is not the kind of funny girls. I would say that she is the kind that thinks too much and would judge guys quickly even before knowing them. At one point she told me that I look like a poor guy that did something wrong in my country and fled to make a new life in Thailand. LOL.

Syzygies
11-01-16, 05:26
Darling. Behind old Robinson Department store in Patpong.

Bangkok Cozy. Fish bowl and sideliners with their own private rooms and large jacuzzi.

Can't remember prices, believe it was either 800 or 1200 per session, including FS, etc.

Back those days (late 70's when I first started visiting), not even sure there were oilies, only soapies??? Patpong was in it's heyday, Soi Cowboy and Nana infants, LOL.1200 seems too much for that year. I paid not much more than that in total for girl in Chao Praya 2 in approx. Year 2000.1 k for the sex was paid separate. Can't remember the Thai Booran Massage part of the price price but I guess 300 or 400.

Bargirls were the go in 1991 since were typically 500 for the whole night, and sometimes they even did not wish to leave at all. BF probably about 170 Baht or maybe a bit more. I believe I would have paid Thermae Coffee shop girls same 500 per night without BF, in 1991.

Whoreman
11-01-16, 14:17
It might be that Cherry's shop does not insist on some of their girls to try to put the customer at ease. I had a girl in Cherry's massage (Cathy) a few weeks ago, and the beginning of the session was very odd. Normally in all the massage shops I have been (at least in Bangkok) , all the girls are very polite and put an effort on that part of the service. Here I went directly to the shop to book her the day before, and the moment I arrived for my session, she did not even great me. She took me upstairs and did not even talk to me apart to say that she comes back (when she went take her stuffs). In fact she did not even talk until we get in the shower together. I was the one who talked to her and tried to make her feel more comfortable. Then she slowly loosened up and became a lot more enjoyable. That girl has a very beautiful body and is a lot more cute in real than her picture on the website. I don't think she can be PSE but at least I enjoyed my 2 pops but unfortunately she is not A+. Her pussy was great and she gave me a very good blowjob for about 10 minutes for my second round. The downsides were that she can barely speak English and she is not the kind of funny girls. I would say that she is the kind that thinks too much and would judge guys quickly even before knowing them. At one point she told me that I look like a poor guy that did something wrong in my country and fled to make a new life in Thailand. LOL.It's good you can laugh about it but it seems a lot of the girls in Cherry show no respect to the customer. Poor attitudes like that spread to other girls and the owner / manageress really needs to try and stop it. But when Yaya was being unpleasant to me she just gave me this 'I know it's shit but what can I do?' look. I don't intend to return when there are better looking girls just a short walk away in Orient Massage and much better attitudes and service in Snow White.

Francesco24
11-01-16, 16:46
It might be that Cherry's shop does not insist on some of their girls to try to put the customer at ease. I had a girl in Cherry's massage (Cathy) a few weeks ago, and the beginning of the session was very odd. Normally in all the massage shops I have been (at least in Bangkok) , all the girls are very polite and put an effort on that part of the service. Here I went directly to the shop to book her the day before, and the moment I arrived for my session, she did not even great me. She took me upstairs and did not even talk to me apart to say that she comes back (when she went take her stuffs). In fact she did not even talk until we get in the shower together. I was the one who talked to her and tried to make her feel more comfortable. Then she slowly loosened up and became a lot more enjoyable. That girl has a very beautiful body and is a lot more cute in real than her picture on the website. I don't think she can be PSE but at least I enjoyed my 2 pops but unfortunately she is not A+. Her pussy was great and she gave me a very good blowjob for about 10 minutes for my second round. The downsides were that she can barely speak English and she is not the kind of funny girls. I would say that she is the kind that thinks too much and would judge guys quickly even before knowing them. At one point she told me that I look like a poor guy that did something wrong in my country and fled to make a new life in Thailand. LOL.Does she at least do deep kiss? And in case is she any good at it?

Thanks.

Traveler1234
11-01-16, 17:21
Year 2000.1 k for the sex was paid separate. Can't remember the Thai Booran Massage part of the price price but I guess 300 or 400.From about 1996-2005, almost 10 years, I was retired so out of touch!

ManonsanBoy
11-01-16, 18:22
I only have a 5 hour (2-7 pm) lay over but would like soapy. Any good soapy within 30 minutes traveling from BKK (new) airport.

Thanks.

Paolo99
11-01-16, 18:51
I don't intend to return when there are better looking girls just a short walk away in Orient Massage and much better attitudes and service in Snow White.I have the same way of thinking than you do, once I'm disappointed with a girl or a place I don't go back there especially when we can find a better service elsewhere at the same price. I would have repeated her a few times if only she had a better attitude because at least I enjoyed to fuck her. I agree with you about the attitude and service in Snow White as I've met their 3 girls (Aom, Nonny and Ninja) and the service have been consistent every time. Walked in front of Orient a few times and never spotted a beauty and given a bad experience with an experimented girl in that shop a few years ago, did not really want to enter that shop as I suspect that service might be a hit or miss there.

Traveler1234
11-01-16, 18:59
I only have a 5 hour (2-7 pm) lay over but would like soapy. Any good soapy within 30 minutes traveling from BKK (new) airport.

Thanks.Rama IX is about 30 minutes out, less if no traffic. There's Catherine, La Defense, Colonze and Love Boat (next to old Radission). I haven't visited in several years so others jump in with updates.

Mjen1970
11-01-16, 23:25
It's good you can laugh about it but it seems a lot of the girls in Cherry show no respect to the customer. Poor attitudes like that spread to other girls and the owner / manageress really needs to try and stop it. But when Yaya was being unpleasant to me she just gave me this 'I know it's shit but what can I do?' look. I don't intend to return when there are better looking girls just a short walk away in Orient Massage and much better attitudes and service in Snow White.Snow White is and always has been my number 1 PSE oily. I've had great sessions in Tulip (Cat and Nancy together and view), Mango (Wan, Mud), Bamboo (Ploy) and more recently Bongkot but Snow White still reigns supreme in my book, It always has a good selection of girls and the service is fabulous (YMMV).

TimTimGuy
11-02-16, 05:38
Rama IX is about 30 minutes out, less if no traffic. There's Catherine, La Defense, Colonze and Love Boat (next to old Radission). I haven't visited in several years so others jump in with updates.The purpose being:

Since someone comes on the forum every week asking for service options when they have short layovers in Bangkok, here is a new thread they can be referred to.

Syzygies
11-02-16, 06:35
Rama IX is about 30 minutes out, less if no traffic. There's Catherine, La Defense, Colonze and Love Boat (next to old Radission). I haven't visited in several years so others jump in with updates.I believe the Honolulu Love Boat was renamed to Long Beach a while back, but referred to by either name or both together. I haven't visited any of them for several years as well. Also gave up Utopia after it went into serious decline and their girls mainly moved to La Belle (same owners). I have used Amsterdam corner Rama 9 and Ratchada in recent years, until my favorite girl disappeared.

I also have not really been using the Petchburi road Soapies much in recent years, after gave away my regular at La Belle. She had a bad nose job done for no reason.

Overall I don't seem to get the same enjoyment at Soapies that I had many years ago. Too much surgeries is a big factor. Hard to find decent natural girls. Hard to get great GFE in the modern era.

Dan Key
11-06-16, 04:06
Can't help it, I love soapies. 4. 30 Saturday, checked out a few in Huai Kwang. Contrary to other notifications, Alaina is open. Huge new building, but only 20 in the bowl. Well disciplined, all smiling and waving at the only customer instead of poking at their phones. A few lookers, but all were late 20's and over. (I guess I'm what Thais refer to 'oowa gair' old water buffalo, because they eat only young grass.).

Ocean (the old Colonze 2) had about 20 as well, with a couple of eligible cuties. But I wanted to find someone that gave me that instant zap of electricity.

Merci is next to Nataree. The interior of the building is new and clean. About 25 in the bowl in four classes, from 1800 to 3800. Zap! Of course, M7 was 3800, but you only live once. Slight build, tiny chest, aged about 20. Pale from Chiang Rai, fake nose. She seemed very sweet, and was delightful throughout the session. Good GFE, but no English (my Thai is OK). In all, the usual slightly disappointing soap experience. Of course, you don't go to soapies for amazing technique but for time with someone who seems fresh and unspoiled. She did a lot of BBBJ, and was open to all positions, but no A of course, and no kissing on the mouth. After a while I got bored with the fake noises and finished. WIR? 3800 is ridiculous, but if I wandered in again and saw that cute little face I dunno. And when I left the fishbowl had about 15 more girls, some very eligible.

I spoke to a Thai friend who was a cop. He implies that one of the ways that Prayuth and the dictatorship are impressing the locals is by tackling police corruption. Everyone in business pays the police, even street vendors. So if every week people see on TV some racket getting exposed and shut down, they see that Prayuth is a man of his word. I remember Saturdays at Nataree being parked in a waiting room with girls because all the rooms were in use. That's about 100 rooms. If there are 6 sessions in each room on a busy day, that's nearly 2 million baht. I also remember seeing what must have been the manager simpering and bowing to a group of senior police after a meeting at Nataree. And yes, there were briefcases: sometimes things in reality are that obvious. After the cops left the manager dude was wailing 'mai dai mai dai', 'I can't do this! The point being that Nataree, with the trafficking, huge turnover and huge police payouts was a huge juicy target.

But despite the loss of Nataree, Huai Kwang is swinging. There's about 7 soapies all within a short walk. Next time I'll check the other joints too. Happy punting.

Whoreman
11-06-16, 04:53
Can't help it, I love soapies. 4. 30 Saturday, checked out a few in Huai Kwang. Contrary to other notifications, Alaina is open. Huge new building, but only 20 in the bowl. Well disciplined, all smiling and waving at the only customer instead of poking at their phones. A few lookers, but all were late 20's and over. (I guess I'm what Thais refer to 'oowa gair' old water buffalo, because they eat only young grass.).

Ocean (the old Colonze 2) had about 20 as well, with a couple of eligible cuties. But I wanted to find someone that gave me that instant zap of electricity.

Merci is next to Nataree. The interior of the building is new and clean. About 25 in the bowl in four classes, from 1800 to 3800. Zap! Of course, M7 was 3800, but you only live once. Slight build, tiny chest, aged about 20. Pale from Chiang Rai, fake nose. She seemed very sweet, and was delightful throughout the session. Good GFE, but no English (my Thai is OK). In all, the usual slightly disappointing soap experience. Of course, you don't go to soapies for amazing technique but for time with someone who seems fresh and unspoiled. She did a lot of BBBJ, and was open to all positions, but no A of course, and no kissing on the mouth. After a while I got bored with the fake noises and finished. WIR? 3800 is ridiculous, but if I wandered in again and saw that cute little face I dunno. And when I left the fishbowl had about 15 more girls, some very eligible.

Great report. Alaina had some young cuties when I went in over a year ago but they were raided by police who rounded up foreign girls so that must have got rid of their young ones. I never partook though as the friendly papasan quoted me all prices with an obvious 500 baht farang surcharge. So it's great to hear that Merci isn't charging that surcharge. I'm happy to pay 3800 baht if the girl is worth it and that's the price that everyone pays. The ilikemassage website confirms that 3800 is indeed the price of an M girl I'll definitely check the place out.

Of course the military government has used its control of the media and elimination of political opposition to convince simple-minded folk that it has eliminated corruption but the reality is corruption is as bad as ever.

ParkVille
11-07-16, 06:09
I think the closuse of nataree has increased the quality of the other soapies. I lived in Ratchada for 1 year, and only Nataree was worth visiting. It got boring visiting the same place, same-ish girls though. Much more impressed with the other nearby soapies now, whereas during nataree's reign, they were all doing so horribly bad in girl quality.

Whoreman
11-07-16, 06:39
I think the closuse of nataree has increased the quality of the other soapies. I lived in Ratchada for 1 year, and only Nataree was worth visiting. It got boring visiting the same place, same-ish girls though. Much more impressed with the other nearby soapies now, whereas during nataree's reign, they were all doing so horribly bad in girl quality.The one thing I didn't like about Nataree was that I never actually got the full 90 minutes, unlike Colonze 2 where I always did. How about these other places like Merci? Full 90 minutes?

You can see some Merci girls on this website:

http://thai-how.com/castlist?id=8097

I'd pass on the 2000 baht V girls but some of the 2600 baht S girls look nice, similar to the kind of girls you'd find in Nataree. Would you pay 7800 baht for Guitar (SM1)? She looks classy but not worth that. I think I'd go for Bow (S1). Not bad for 2600 baht. Shampoo (M11) is nice but I don't really go for bleached hair so probably wouldn't pay 3800 baht for her.

Gannaton48
11-07-16, 09:33
The one thing I didn't like about Nataree was that I never actually got the full 90 minutes, unlike Colonze 2 where I always did. How about these other places like Merci? Full 90 minutes?

You can see some Merci girls on this website:

http://thai-how.com/castlist?id=8097

I'd pass on the 2000 baht V girls but some of the 2600 baht S girls look nice, similar to the kind of girls you'd find in Nataree. Would you pay 7800 baht for Guitar (SM1)? She looks classy but not worth that. I think I'd go for Bow (S1). Not bad for 2600 baht. Shampoo (M11) is nice but I don't really go for bleached hair so probably wouldn't pay 3800 baht for her.ISn't there an english version?

Dan Key
11-07-16, 13:13
My sweet thing didn't rush me. As l reported l just got a bit bored bonking away while she pretended to like it. On the plus side she was great eye candy. I was in the room 75 minutes.

Dan7373
11-07-16, 13:40
....

After a while I got bored with the fake noises and finished. ....
I'd say that the lady's fake noises aren't entirely her fault. Because it's up to the guy to make the lady's noises real, while he is nailing her with his dick.

Fingering the lady's clit, while you are nailing it is a good way to do it.

It's not reasonable for a guy to expect the lady to enjoy it, if he is just doing what's pleasant for himself, and he doesn't go out of his way to please her.

This is just common sense. You need to make an effort to please the lady to make it real for her. And effort by itself isn't enough. You also need to know what you are doing and pay attention to feedback from her. Fake noises are definitely a sign that you need to improve your technique with her.

Red Kilt
11-07-16, 14:10
ISn't there an english version?My software translated it for me.

You should be able to do it too.

Zuka55
11-07-16, 21:15
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EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited or deleted because the writing was so bad that the report was nearly impossible to comprehend.

Canyon
11-08-16, 07:51
Natty,

Your inbox is full. Please delete some messages.

Canyon.

JackieChino
11-08-16, 12:22
Hi all,

Will be making my yearly trip to thailand next month.

Can anyone update me on the current superstars in Mango, Snow White, Tulip, Bongkot, Candy, Bamboo etc? Any help would be appreciated.

Whoreman
11-08-16, 16:29
Found myself in Orient Massage today and chose a pretty, young looking girl in a black fairy skirt whose name was Cat. She claimed not to have a baby and it seemed her body was normal to petite. The fairy skirt was hiding a secret though. Although she has slim shoulders and tiny tits, she has quite a belly and a massive arse. Pear shaped is I think the term, which is not what I usually go for so I had to suspend reality and pretend I was with an Asian Kim Kardashian even though the curves weren't there. To be fair I've seen guys getting excited over fatter gogo girls so there's definitely a market for it. The fairy skirt that hides it is deceptive marketing though.

Service was standard for this MP. The rooms are small and grotty and the girls spend far too long faffing around with their box of toiletries and things like drying shower cream bottles and folding towels. And you have to specifically request if you want her to stay until time's up.

I found out she lives near me which is quite near the Ratchada soapies and I asked her why she doesn't work in one. She correctly pointed out she's too fat. So I'll definitely give these non-PSE oilies a miss in future. If I want service I'll go to Snow White and if I want looks I'll check out soapies like Merci mentioned a few posts down.

Whoreman
11-08-16, 16:46
Hi all,

Will be making my yearly trip to thailand next month.

Can anyone update me on the current superstars in Mango, Snow White, Tulip, Bongkot, Candy, Bamboo etc? Any help would be appreciated.Why not RTFF? The current superstar at Snow White has been reviewed a lot.

JackieChino
11-08-16, 18:27
Why not RTFF? The current superstar at Snow White has been reviewed a lot.Unlike you, I don't have time to "RTFF", which was was why I asked for names in the first place.

Member #4698
11-08-16, 19:20
Unlike you, I don't have time to "RTFF", which was was why I asked for names in the first place.That's a funny and insulting comment. Look, if you don't have the time or more likely the inclination to search for and read informed reports BM's have already posted to the forum, that's fine, its up to you, but then ask yourself why we should take the time to spoon feed you reports we have already spent a good deal of our time and effort to write and post in the first place? Nobody is getting paid for posting reports. Most of us who currently post reports do so in an effort to pay it forward the information, tips, and insights we have received from others in the past. Respect is a two way street. If you can't bother to RTFF, I doubt many BM's will want help you out. The ISG is a treasure trove of exactly the kind of information you are seeking. It is all here. Just go back and skim through the past 3 or 4 months of posts until you find what you are looking for or use the advanced search tool. If you can't find the time to do that, it must not be very important to you.

Mjen1970
11-09-16, 02:43
Hi All,

I'm heading out to Bangkok for Thanksgiving. I've RTFF'd a fair bit and have written several reports in the past. I'm just looking for some information please, I will only be in Bangkok for a day or so as I will be heading to Pattaya so I don't have too much time for traipsing around.

I like Wan who used to work at Mango. You can see my report on here if you search on my userid. I thought she was working at Bamboo at soi 8 but I saw this picture on Cherry's Twitter and if this isn't Wan, Then she is a ringer for her.

The other thing I would like to try in Bangkok is a Prostate massage and effectively be milked. I've seen that there is a place called Analisa and another which I have heard of before called Akane, Any recommendations?

Last thing is that I like Snow White on soi 26 so I think I will pop in there, Any point of looking into Tulip or is it still in the doldrums?

Thanks,

Stykler
11-09-16, 07:06
{Big Snip} If you can't find the time to do that, it must not be very important to you.Very well said indeed.

ParkVille
11-09-16, 07:59
Unlike you, I don't have time to "RTFF", which was was why I asked for names in the first place.Then hire sex tourist guide. If you don't have the money for that, then don't bother coming here since you're too busy. There are so many freeloaders here, constantly leeching off of contributors.

Camieleke
11-09-16, 13:13
I just return from a short business trip to Bangkok.

I was not really in my mood to go for hunting so I tried a massage place in front of the Paragon Mall. On the other side of the road there are some massage places.

I went in to one (don't remember the name) and I got a cute girl for my massage.

It was a good one with a nice HJ and BJ on top.

Very nice and clean place.

JackieChino
11-10-16, 05:17
That's a funny and insulting comment. Look, if you don't have the time or more likely the inclination to search for and read informed reports BM's have already posted to the forum, that's fine, its up to you, but then ask yourself why we should take the time to spoon feed you reports we have already spent a good deal of our time and effort to write and post in the first place? Nobody is getting paid for posting reports. Most of us who currently post reports do so in an effort to pay it forward the information, tips, and insights we have received from others in the past. Respect is a two way street. If you can't bother to RTFF, I doubt many BM's will want help you out. The ISG is a treasure trove of exactly the kind of information you are seeking. It is all here. Just go back and skim through the past 3 or 4 months of posts until you find what you are looking for or use the advanced search tool. If you can't find the time to do that, it must not be very important to you.I'm sorry but I DO regularly read the forum and have contributed regularly. Its just that lately, I have been caught up with work a lot and I haven't had the time, which is why I was just asking for current names. I would have searched for reports on those names myself after that. And I don't know how you can find my post insulting but not when someone else tells me to "RTFF" (Read the F*ing Forum).

Syzygies
11-12-16, 09:16
Hi all,

Will be making my yearly trip to thailand next month.

Can anyone update me on the current superstars in Mango, Snow White, Tulip, Bongkot, Candy, Bamboo etc? Any help would be appreciated.Nope. This is not a service that is currently provided, to list all the superstars in popularity sequence. It takes too much effort.

So RTFF is the only info you get. You get what others feel like posting which may be only smart ass comments. If you have no time then don't bother to open the forum.

I have some clues about some popular SW girls even I don't try them. Do like me and make your own choice.

TayTown
11-15-16, 11:19
I wandered into Bongkot yesterday after lunch. There were three girls there and the only one with a pretty face was Nooknik. I had before and she's sweet, can do everything and takes it in the ass like a champ. But to be honest her tits have major baby damage that's a real turn off. Cash wasn't there when I came so I left. The three girls were disappointed. They were all A+ but it just wasn't worth it. Maybe it was the time of day or maybe the shop has gone down hill. Any thoughts?

Ehs831
11-15-16, 19:53
Stopped into Mango today and Ae caught my eye walking up. I chose her for a 90 min session. To give the benefit of the doubt. I have a hunch that she was ill / not feeling well today. Nice thin figure, bunch of baby damage. Started with the ritual shower and I should have known something was up when she did everything she could to make me pop with a HJ. Then onto bed and back to the HJ action. Here is the kicker, she wouldn't give a BJ in any way. She just wouldn't do it. Did the ritual boom-boom but I was completely put off by the lack of oral that didn't do anything for me. I made the excuse of being jet-lagged and settled for an average massage to fill in the rest of the time.

Didn't think I would get a starfish experience at Mango, very disappointing. I had the luck of running into Ice the first time I went there in Feb, I guess that everything there is going to be downhill after that type of PSE experience.

Traveller747
11-16-16, 00:23
A few days ago I visited Club 102 at 11 pm. Only 2 girls available. The one I chose, Ajay, was 170 cm, slim but not skinny, with silicones. The silicones were very good looking, but unfortunately quite hard on the touch. Ajay could easily work as a model: super legs and body.

After a thorough cleaning in the shower I got a decent massage before the fun part started. DFK and several position changes later I finished in doggy, enjoying a wonderful GFE.

Club 102 is more expensive, 2600 for 60 minutes, than the competitores in this area, but the rooms are clean and in good condition. The paint doesn't peel of the walls and there is no mould in the corners, as I have seen in many other places. I only wish I had seen the other girls, if there are more like Ajay they are worth what they cost.

Traveller747
11-16-16, 00:54
After reading good reviews about this place on other internet pages, I decided to give it a try. It is a bit off the road near Rama IX, La Defense is not far away. My expectations rose, the longer the taxi needed in the dense traffic around 6 pm.

As I entered I was shocked: the fishbowl completely empty, not a single girl! What was wrong? I found a papasan, who told me in broken english to wait. Later he took me to the second floor, where he gathered 3 girls in front of the elevator. They were between 1900 and 2200 Baht. Where were the higher priced and more beautiful girls? The girls spoke no english at all and the papasan had trouble telling me these were the only ones available in his broken english.

So after a long taxi ride I didn't want to leave empty handed. I chose the one for 2200 Baht, 155 cm, slim but big natural tits. In the room we took a long bath together before moving to the bed. She was really doing her best and seemed to enjoy it, even though we couldn't communicate, but the spark didn't ignite. After all a solid performance but nothing to remember. And the rooms could use an upgrade.

Maybe it was not the right time or I did something wrong to miss the higher quality, but I would not recommend this place.

Some American
11-16-16, 16:49
I like the Akane experience but one thing confuses me. Rimjobs are on the menu—I've had anywhere from mediocre to great rimming there—the two girl experience is fun, but after all that nastiness most of them are unwilling to take a CIM. I think I've had two girls willing to do that over the years. It's my only complaint about that place.

Syzygies
11-16-16, 18:13
I like the Akane experience but one thing confuses me. Rimjobs are on the menuI've had anywhere from mediocre to great rimming therethe two girl experience is fun, but after all that nastiness most of them are unwilling to take a CIM. I think I've had two girls willing to do that over the years. It's my only complaint about that place.Just go to Snow White where CIM is surely standard.

Some American
11-16-16, 21:09
Just go to Snow White where CIM is surely standard.Well, yes, I like it, but it's not the same. Two girls, the water mattress.

Whoreman
11-17-16, 04:05
After reading good reviews about this place on other internet pages, I decided to give it a try. It is a bit off the road near Rama IX, La Defense is not far away. My expectations rose, the longer the taxi needed in the dense traffic around 6 pm.

As I entered I was shocked: the fishbowl completely empty, not a single girl! What was wrong? I found a papasan, who told me in broken english to wait. Later he took me to the second floor, where he gathered 3 girls in front of the elevator. They were between 1900 and 2200 Baht. Where were the higher priced and more beautiful girls? The girls spoke no english at all and the papasan had trouble telling me these were the only ones available in his broken english.

So after a long taxi ride I didn't want to leave empty handed. I chose the one for 2200 Baht, 155 cm, slim but big natural tits. In the room we took a long bath together before moving to the bed. She was really doing her best and seemed to enjoy it, even though we couldn't communicate, but the spark didn't ignite. After all a solid performance but nothing to remember. And the rooms could use an upgrade.

Maybe it was not the right time or I did something wrong to miss the higher quality, but I would not recommend this place.As this is a place mainly for locals the girls might not start showing up until 7 ish. That's just a guess as I've never been there. There have also been good reviews of Nancy Massage in the area, which is also on my 'to do' list.

Paolo99
11-17-16, 10:56
Stopped into Mango today and Ae caught my eye walking up. I chose her for a 90 min session. To give the benefit of the doubt. I have a hunch that she was ill / not feeling well today. Nice thin figure, bunch of baby damage. Started with the ritual shower and I should have known something was up when she did everything she could to make me pop with a HJ. Then onto bed and back to the HJ action. Here is the kicker, she wouldn't give a BJ in any way. She just wouldn't do it. Did the ritual boom-boom but I was completely put off by the lack of oral that didn't do anything for me. I made the excuse of being jet-lagged and settled for an average massage to fill in the rest of the time.

Didn't think I would get a starfish experience at Mango, very disappointing. I had the luck of running into Ice the first time I went there in Feb, I guess that everything there is going to be downhill after that type of PSE experience.I've met her once 1 month ago and was also disappointed. I walked in that Soi and there were many girls sitting in front of their respective shops, saw nothing interesting in Orient or in Addict, Ae was sitting with 3 or 4 fat girls and she looked pretty good so I decided to come back and enter her shop. The line up was big (around 15 girls) but mostly old or dark skinned. She was still the one that looked the best so I took her for a 2 hours massage. First red flag was during the undressing: she did not want to undress in front of me. She undressed me first, made me enter the shower then she went back to undress and dimmed the light before coming in the shower with me. I knew there was something wrong and realized it was because of the damages on her body. In her black tight dress she looked pretty sexy, not so much now that she was undressed. The tummy is damaged but other parts are still OK. Being close to her, I realized that she was pretty old also (I would say around 46). The shower part was good despite the fact that she would try to avoid me seeing her tummy by staying behind me or showing me her back. She likes to tease and makes some body to body contact. Back in the bed she gave me a blowjob but she started it fast. I hate it when it's done fast so I told her that I like it to be done slowly and she adjusted it immediately and it started being very pleasurable. I loved her blowjob, she did it very slowly, softly and for a pretty long time. Then came the second red flag when I wanted to fuck her, she said not now, she was not ready for it. She was in a playful mood and I was not. Maybe she wanted me to eat her first (as she told me during the blowjob that she has some pizza to give me to eat) but I just didn't want to eat her. So after a few more minutes wasted, she sucked me again and again it was a very good suck. At one point I could not hold it and did CIM, she still kept sucking for a minute after that. I thought she was just trying to delay the fuck part (maybe she met too many guys that fuck for very long time). Another thing that I didn't like is that she says bullshit constantly. I like to have a good chat with the girls between my two pops, but it was just not interesting with her because she would not say a word of truth. She even told me that I would have to pay 500 baht more if I want to fuck her ass, and then pretended that it was a joke when she realized that I knew a lot more than she thought. I sometimes have some problems to keep it hard once I put the condom, especial if the resting time between the 2 shots is too short. The second round she started again with a BJ, but I didn't let her do it for a long time as I wanted to fuck her and was a little bit concerned about the remaining time. So I fucked her in mish and after 2 minutes she puts me aside, excused herself and went straight to the toilets. WTF? That happened only once to me before when I was fucking a girl's ass, but never with a pussy. She came back quickly and apologysed again, said that she needed to go take a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) but I was done. My dick was already sleeping and I knew it would be hard to get a hard on again. So she went back for the BJ but that time was not so easy, so she slowly puts herself in 69 and then it began being better, but I knew I had only a limited time so I decided that the best option would be to CIM for the second time with her. I did not eat her, but just the view of that pussy and ass was enough to arouse me again. So for a 2 hour massage I could not even fuck her once. She is a very experienced girl and I think everything was deliberate. Would not recommend her, except for her BJ skills maybe. I surely would not go back to her or to that shop again unless they recruit a young a beautiful girl that performs well.

Dan Key
11-18-16, 15:21
Friday 5 pm checked out First Class (about 12 girls, some prospective) then Emmanuelle (about the same, but overpriced) then Merci (about 15). At Alaina one stood out as cute, slender and fun. It got better. B14 Kon Kate is about 5'8" coffee coloured (lsaan) and about 30. No baby damage, slim, gorgeous and be or see, whatever, medium titties incredibly pert. A jewel. Probably fake nose, definitely expensive teeth but the titties are real.

Hey, it's a soapie. Cute massage before the bubbles, then tittie massage, BBBJ and enthusiasm and energy for all positions, but no kissing or DIY. Completely satisfying. She's charming, pushes a bit to encourage the vinegar stroke, but hey, ignore that. No English (but I speak Ok Thai).

WIR? Definitely. 2,200 be. A bargain. She's away in Osaka working for the next 2 weeks, after that enjoy.

Syzygies
11-18-16, 17:47
After reading good reviews about this place on other internet pages, I decided to give it a try. It is a bit off the road near Rama IX, La Defense is not far away. My expectations rose, the longer the taxi needed in the dense traffic around 6 pm.

As I entered I was shocked: the fishbowl completely empty, not a single girl! What was wrong? I found a papasan, who told me in broken english to wait. Later he took me to the second floor, where he gathered 3 girls in front of the elevator. They were between 1900 and 2200 Baht. Where were the higher priced and more beautiful girls? The girls spoke no english at all and the papasan had trouble telling me these were the only ones available in his broken english.

So after a long taxi ride I didn't want to leave empty handed. I chose the one for 2200 Baht, 155 cm, slim but big natural tits. In the room we took a long bath together before moving to the bed. She was really doing her best and seemed to enjoy it, even though we couldn't communicate, but the spark didn't ignite. After all a solid performance but nothing to remember. And the rooms could use an upgrade.

Maybe it was not the right time or I did something wrong to miss the higher quality, but I would not recommend this place.I have visited Victoria twice and both times the line up was far too small to choose a girl.

At Nancy I also failed as line up a little bigger but no pretty girls. Nancy is cheap but but not much class. La Defense has a lot more girls.

Its hard to recommend any of these places for a non Thai person.

I have used Long Beech, Copa Cabana, Poseidon, Emanuelle, and Amsterdam the most.

Rockk
11-24-16, 07:14
My buddy and I are in town for a day or two and would like to escape for a few hours. I have browsed through the past 10 - 15 pages, and appreciate the information and time that's fine into the reports.

I'd appreciate any suggestions as to where to find the girls now that Nataree is closed. Is Merci it's successor, or are there other places the forum could suggest? Multi pop would be awesome as well, but might be asking took much.

Thanks for any suggestions, and look forward to making a report.

McRib
11-24-16, 17:26
Going to back in Bangkok for a short time on both ends of a trip to SEA and looking forward to getting back into some action. Also looking to satisfy a particular fetish of mine. Does anyone know of any girls in the PSE oilies who happen to be squirters? Someone mentioned Leena at Tulip is a veritable fountain, so she's on the list. If not in the oilies, any other intel on where to find a gal with that particular set of skills?

You have my thanks, and my promise to follow through with more reports after this trip.

AssLover945
11-25-16, 21:30
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner).

Sloppy and thorough licking of the pole, the balls and nice rimming after a long time. She was horny, I could feel her wet, noticed when I fingered her. No lube needed absolutely. Her shapely ass was available and dangling. She is a big tease and knows how to get your manhood's attention. Her lusty eyes made me go even more and I bust my nuts after going good for full 15 minutes in various positions.

In 2 hours we fucked 3 times (I had fucked 3 times in along long time). She was tight in the Pu# department And Yes I did the ass too.

WIR. Hell Yes.

Body type. Not very thin, neither fat. - Slight baby damage.

Skin Type. Isaan Brownie (with makeup of course she looks fair).

Wander Luster
11-25-16, 21:59
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner).

Sloppy and thorough licking of the pole, the balls and nice rimming after a long time. She was horny, I could feel her wet, noticed when I fingered her. No lube needed absolutely. Her shapely ass was available and dangling. She is a big tease and knows how to get your manhood's attention. Her lusty eyes made me go even more and I bust my nuts after going good for full 15 minutes in various positions.

In 2 hours we fucked 3 times (I had fucked 3 times in along long time). She was tight in the Pu# department And Yes I did the ass too.

WIR. Hell Yes.

Body type. Not very thin, neither fat. - Slight baby damage.

Skin Type. Isaan Brownie (with makeup of course she looks fair).I'm visiting BK as an ex-pat living in Saigon. What say you about prices for girl like this at _ Thanks bro.

WL.

AssLover945
11-25-16, 22:15
I'm visiting BK as an ex-pat living in Saigon. What say you about prices for girl like this at _ Thanks bro.

WL.If you RTFF, you would know that the standard prices at these oilies isn 2300 bahts for a good 2 hours with multiple pops. (2100 for 1. 5 hrs and 1900 for 1 HR).

MichaelSamuel
11-25-16, 22:27
I was set to pick-up one of my regular girls for a few days trip out of town but wanted to get a little something in before the drive and thought I could scout snow white for later in the week when I got back. Lineup was average and Ninja was busy so I still didn't manage to lay eyes on her. As I had a nice time with Emmi in September I decided to repeat with her. I only had time for an hour session and she remembered me from before so we got right into it. She is solid performer and takes whatever you can give her, nice A+ in doggy and then mish to finish. She did say she wanted me to finish in her mouth but I got a bit too excited. I go to SW for the A+ and reliability of service and they do not disappoint. Emmi was just what I needed for a quick hour and I would repeat. Body – 6, Face -7, Skills-8. 5, attitude-9.

Whoreman
11-26-16, 16:15
I was set to pick-up one of my regular girls for a few days trip out of town but wanted to get a little something in before the drive and thought I could scout snow white for later in the week when I got back. Lineup was average and Ninja was busy so I still didn't manage to lay eyes on her. As I had a nice time with Emmi in September I decided to repeat with her. I only had time for an hour session and she remembered me from before so we got right into it. She is solid performer and takes whatever you can give her, nice A+ in doggy and then mish to finish. She did say she wanted me to finish in her mouth but I got a bit too excited. I go to SW for the A+ and reliability of service and they do not disappoint. Emmi was just what I needed for a quick hour and I would repeat. Body 6, Face -7, Skills-8. 5, attitude-9.I would give Emmy's body more than a 6. She's no spring chicken but she doesn't have a baby either so she's well-toned with nice flat tummy, pert tits which are not too small and a nice little arse. She might not compare to a top gogo girl but she's better than most oily girls.

Whoreman
11-26-16, 16:20
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner).

Sloppy and thorough licking of the pole, the balls and nice rimming after a long time. She was horny, I could feel her wet, noticed when I fingered her. No lube needed absolutely. Her shapely ass was available and dangling. She is a big tease and knows how to get your manhood's attention. Her lusty eyes made me go even more and I bust my nuts after going good for full 15 minutes in various positions.

In 2 hours we fucked 3 times (I had fucked 3 times in along long time). She was tight in the Pu# department And Yes I did the ass too.

WIR. Hell Yes.

Body type. Not very thin, neither fat. - Slight baby damage.

Skin Type. Isaan Brownie (with makeup of course she looks fair).She looks cute in the first photo but a bit unfeminine in the second. Maybe it's just the funny face she's pulling. 'Slight' is a bit subjective when it comes to baby damage. No stretch marks, deflated tits or bloated nipples? I might check her out as I've never been to Sky. Have you tried Tangmo? On their website she looks the most doable.

MichaelSamuel
11-26-16, 18:10
Yeah, I wouldn't disagree on that. I was on the fence when I started writing everything yesterday. Should I use the same 1-10 scale for both massage places, soapies, and gogos, or make them relevant to the category of where the girl is? Thoughts from others? I tried to keep it a straight scale, but honestly I think an adjusted scale for massage places, soapies, and gogos would be more appropriate.


I would give Emmy's body more than a 6. She's no spring chicken but she doesn't have a baby either so she's well-toned with nice flat tummy, pert tits which are not too small and a nice little arse. She might not compare to a top gogo girl but she's better than most oily girls.

MichaelSamuel
11-26-16, 18:11
I miss the long time thai GF who had been a part in every trip I had taken to Thailand up until this one. But the last 2 visits were bumpy with her and I am reasonably sure she picked herself up a loser thai BF so after some strange chat exchanges I didn't even see her this trip. The backup GF just isn't the same and after 3 nights was pleased to be flying solo again.

I checked back into the landmark and they said they only had a room with 2 beds and I said that doesn't work for me and they upgraded me to a suite which was awesome. Unfortunatly the next day I had a different reservation for the remainder of the trip through my credit card and they had me change back to a regular room, but it was still nice for a night.

I headed straight to 24 and 24/1. Did a walk-through of each and ended up at addict, it was a Sunday afternoon and they were doing a good business. The girls were already lined up and there were 4 Japanese ahead of me. Lineup was deep maybe 15-20 girls. I took a seat and started eyeing the girl right in front of me, she was a bit shy and clearly on the young side (19 as it turned out). I chose her and up we went. She was new to the job, young and inexperienced, with no tits what so ever, but the rest of the body and the face were terrific. Non-trimmed Bush which was a bit interesting, but variety is the spice of life right? Session was average and she said I was her first farang ever which I actually believe. She was a bit shy but didn't complain or resist anything and was a good session. Definitely a diamond in the rough. If she is there in a couple of months I would suggest giving her a try as long as you don't mind the lack of funnabongos. Name was Tan. Body – 8, Face -9, Skills-5, attitude-7.

MichaelSamuel
11-27-16, 00:11
After never managing to cross Ninja on my previous SW visits I called and booked appointment this time. Was early on a Monday, like 3 pm and they said I was only 3rd customer of shop for whole day and her first so something to be noted maybe Monday is a good day to get girls fresh and eager. Since I hadn't even laid eyes on her I limited it to an hour session, but honestly I think that's a waste. The extra 400 thb is so little might as well always just do two hours and can leave early if you want to just get a BJ for a while. Just my 2 cents. So I finally get to see her and I was happy with my decision. Nice cute girl, bit of the that college baby fat on her, but still nice young body and no baby. Having seen to be mostly with minimal tit girls this trip she had a nice set of BS to play with which was nice. She was a sweat heart which was bit surprising given the amount of business she is getting daily. We got along well and even though I pack a large package and it took some time we got it in that cute young ass and boy was it tight, everything I was hoping it to be. BJ was average and pussy was nice and tight. She was decent in cowgirl and happy to do anything I wanted. Lazy dog with the mirrors is my preference for A+ or even doggy since seeing the face is so much more a turn off for me. Overall I was quite pleased and I liked the youth and chemistry so came back to see her a few days later for the full two hours. Again great session even better this time since had a lot more time to play. I didn't have any problems with round 2 but just couldn't get across the finish line and we spent a long time trying which I appreciated. Seems to be a reoccurring problem for me likely do to getting older or just getting too much action while in LOS, hahaha. I can see why she has become so popular and I wonder how long she will stay. I tipped her both times, the first since I was establishing a little rapport for the 2nd visit I knew was coming and the 2nd time for all the extra effort trying for that 2nd close. I really worked her ass that 2nd visit so I think a bit extra was well deserved. I will definitely repeat with her next trip.

AssLover945
11-27-16, 07:48
She looks cute in the first photo but a bit unfeminine in the second. Maybe it's just the funny face she's pulling. 'Slight' is a bit subjective when it comes to baby damage. No stretch marks, deflated tits or bloated nipples? I might check her out as I've never been to Sky. Have you tried Tangmo? On their website she looks the most doable.Haven't tried Tangmo. I have tried only 2 girls there. Nanny and Guitar. Yes everyone's opinion is subjective, so whatever much I explain is still my perspective.

I did not ask her for a full frontal nude to show you the baby damage. 5555.

But she was acceptable for me. Anyway more than 60-70% of the ladies in these oilies are single moms / MILFs already.

MichaelSamuel
11-28-16, 04:36
I can't recall if I read something on this board or somewhere else but had heard something positive about momo massage in thong lo and wanted to expand my horizons and try one of the Japanese oriented shops and see how the service differed. From their website the map makes it easy to find right by the thong lo BTS stop. Small shop but mamasan spoke good English and was professional and friendly. Started with the book to show me who was there and share information about them and stated I could see the girls whenever I wanted. There wasn't a lot available, maybe 4 girls which was disappointing. Whittled in down to 2 and then seeing them in person chose Yumi (http://momothonglor.com/mai/yumi/). Price is a little on the higher side at 2100 for an hour vs the normal 1900. Rooms were on the slightly above average side for massage places, but quite spacious. Routine was pretty standard maybe a bit more attention than a normal shop but nothing notable. The pics of the girl are touched up and done well as looking at them now she wasn't nearly as young or as cute. Girls English was below thai average (not unexpected since it is more a Japanese shop), body was simply ok, nothing to write home about. Overall I was generally unimpressed, service was about that same as any decent shop. Selection was light and at a little price premium. If I was in thong lo for something else and didn't want to get on BTS maybe I would go back, but otherwise I was underwhelmed. Body – 6, Face -6, Skills-5, attitude-5.

Basically wasn't a loss but not a win either. Glad I tried something new, and am going to try to add one new shop each trip just for research purposes. Next to the shop was another one, but I can't remember the name, may do that next time. My buddy didn't know the name, but walking on 26 the other night opposite SW a door opened all japanese writing and the girls were encourging him inside, he said there were about 20 girls mostly good looking. Anyone got an idea on what the shop may be?

Zeus9
11-28-16, 08:11
I had some some time to kill, so I figured I would try out the new Analisa location off of Suk Soi 6. It's a lot more convenient to get there now. Less than a 5 Min walk from the Nana BTS. Even though it's very close to Nana Plaza, I think the location is very discreet. There aren't any other MP's around it. It looks like a completely legit MP from the outside. There is nothing to suggest what's offered on the menu inside. The girls all seem to be wearing a uniform of sorts now consisting of black polos and pants. Before it seemed that they just wore whatever they liked. The service menu is still the same and discounted temporarily I assume to get people in the new shop. The building and facilities are nicer. It seems that they just took over from a legit MP that used to be there. I took the 1 hour PM massage for 1200. The service and girl were as expected there. Pretty good actually for the price. The girl was pretty average, but they stay clothed and just provide the service paid for. So they don't have to be stunner there. I have had a couple pretty girls there before. The room I was in was nicer than the previous shop. The room had 2 large massage tables with the sliding curtains and a private shower. I would seriously hope that they wouldn't have 2 punters in that room at once. One guy getting a finger up the ass while another was taking it from a strap on. That could be a bit awkward for most. But the private shower with toilet in the room was nice. Everything was very clean. I think overall that the place just looks even more like a regular shop with no extras. But if one strolls in and takes a peek at his options on the menu, then a few non-mongers might get a surprise I think.

Syzygies
11-28-16, 17:51
I can't recall if I read something on this board or somewhere else but had heard something positive about momo massage in thong lo and wanted to expand my horizons and try one of the Japanese oriented shops and see how the service differed. From their website the map makes it easy to find right by the thong lo BTS stop. Small shop but mamasan spoke good English and was professional and friendly. Started with the book to show me who was there and share information about them and stated I could see the girls whenever I wanted. There wasn't a lot available, maybe 4 girls which was disappointing. Whittled in down to 2 and then seeing them in person chose Yumi (http://momothonglor.com/mai/yumi/). Price is a little on the higher side at 2100 for an hour vs the normal 1900. Rooms were on the slightly above average side for massage places, but quite spacious. Routine was pretty standard maybe a bit more attention than a normal shop but nothing notable. The pics of the girl are touched up and done well as looking at them now she wasn't nearly as young or as cute. Girls English was below thai average (not unexpected since it is more a Japanese shop), body was simply ok, nothing to write home about. Overall I was generally unimpressed, service was about that same as any decent shop. Selection was light and at a little price premium. If I was in thong lo for something else and didn't want to get on BTS maybe I would go back, but otherwise I was underwhelmed. Body 6, Face -6, Skills-5, attitude-5.

Basically wasn't a loss but not a win either. Glad I tried something new, and am going to try to add one new shop each trip just for research purposes. Next to the shop was another one, but I can't remember the name, may do that next time. My buddy didn't know the name, but walking on 26 the other night opposite SW a door opened all japanese writing and the girls were encourging him inside, he said there were about 20 girls mostly good looking. Anyone got an idea on what the shop may be?I guess I have a contrasting philosophy. Places or venues mean so little to me. For me, I always consider I am trying a particular girl. As for the place, its really just a question of if they have any girls of interest, worth trying. If the line up was completely crap, I would just move on. My testing a girl, only makes sense if there would be potential to repeat her. No point to test a girl who is just not good looking enough to ever want to repeat.

For guys, that don't like repeating, they just get a never ending set of random fucks, I suppose.

So I am a little surprised you choose a girl that you rate the face 6 and body 6. Your marks may well be very fair. I notice in pics she has both nose and tit jobs and would not be my choice. Another girl Bee on website might be acceptable to me if her pics are at all realistic.

So you are underwhealmed by the girl fair enough. Every place has some crappy girls. I don't really assess a place based on that. If consistent visits never offer any girls worth trying, then I probably give the place away.

Its worth mentioning the time of your visit roughly so we could gauge if it seems reasonable the line up was so thin or not.

Your intel is useful in a negative way. Just another shop with nothing stunning at the time of visit. However if you found "stunners" I would obviously get more interested.

Syzygies
11-28-16, 18:28
I would give Emmy's body more than a 6. She's no spring chicken but she doesn't have a baby either so she's well-toned with nice flat tummy, pert tits which are not too small and a nice little arse. She might not compare to a top gogo girl but she's better than most oily girls.I was thinking the same thing. He does not say why he gave a 6. Perhaps he likes large tits.

Syzygies
11-28-16, 18:32
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner).

Sloppy and thorough licking of the pole, the balls and nice rimming after a long time. She was horny, I could feel her wet, noticed when I fingered her. No lube needed absolutely. Her shapely ass was available and dangling. She is a big tease and knows how to get your manhood's attention. Her lusty eyes made me go even more and I bust my nuts after going good for full 15 minutes in various positions.

In 2 hours we fucked 3 times (I had fucked 3 times in along long time). She was tight in the Pu# department And Yes I did the ass too.

WIR. Hell Yes.

Body type. Not very thin, neither fat. - Slight baby damage.

Skin Type. Isaan Brownie (with makeup of course she looks fair).Great report. It seems to contain all the info one might need, to interest others to try.

MichaelSamuel
11-29-16, 01:38
I absolutley agree she is better than most oily girls. Hence reason I have taken her 2 times now. I was thinking more on scale of a 10 being that super fine model from Lord. But I think perhaps better to start using 1-10 scale based on category, Gogo, Oily, Soapy.


I was thinking the same thing. He does not say why he gave a 6. Perhaps he likes large tits.

MichaelSamuel
11-29-16, 01:43
Reason I still took the girl was curiosity if the service would be different in shop and she was good enough and I didn't want to shop further that day as it was about to rain. Time was 4:30/5 on teusday the 8th. The "not anything special" was the end result of my research beyond the 24 and 24/1 shops I normally frequent. I should note that a higher performance from her would have resulted in a repeat, and perhaps I am handicapping the looks score based on just average experience. The SW girls probably look better in my memory since the performance is usually top notch.


I guess I have a contrasting philosophy. Places or venues mean so little to me. For me, I always consider I am trying a particular girl. As for the place, its really just a question of if they have any girls of interest, worth trying. If the line up was completely crap, I would just move on. My testing a girl, only makes sense if there would be potential to repeat her. No point to test a girl who is just not good looking enough to ever want to repeat.

For guys, that don't like repeating, they just get a never ending set of random fucks, I suppose.

So I am a little surprised you choose a girl that you rate the face 6 and body 6. Your marks may well be very fair. I notice in pics she has both nose and tit jobs and would not be my choice. Another girl Bee on website might be acceptable to me if her pics are at all realistic.

So you are underwhealmed by the girl fair enough. Every place has some crappy girls. I don't really assess a place based on that. If consistent visits never offer any girls worth trying, then I probably give the place away.

Its worth mentioning the time of your visit roughly so we could gauge if it seems reasonable the line up was so thin or not.

Your intel is useful in a negative way. Just another shop with nothing stunning at the time of visit. However if you found "stunners" I would obviously get more interested.

Vodkin
11-30-16, 00:46
Visited Honeybee and booked Pink ahead of time for a 90 minute session. When I arrived around 10 pm, there were four or five girls sitting around. The room is kind of old but clean. Mirror next to the bed which is nice. Pink is a good performer, has very small nipples which I like very much. Body- 8, Face- 8, Skills- 8.5, Attitude- 9. English is basic not fluent as desirable. Next time will out call her to hotel (B3000).

Dan7373
11-30-16, 03:56
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner).

Sloppy and thorough licking of the pole, the balls and nice rimming after a long time. She was horny, I could feel her wet, noticed when I fingered her. No lube needed absolutely. Her shapely ass was available and dangling. She is a big tease and knows how to get your manhood's attention. Her lusty eyes made me go even more and I bust my nuts after going good for full 15 minutes in various positions.

In 2 hours we fucked 3 times (I had fucked 3 times in along long time). She was tight in the Pu# department And Yes I did the ass too.

WIR. Hell Yes.

Body type. Not very thin, neither fat. - Slight baby damage.

Skin Type. Isaan Brownie (with makeup of course she looks fair).I found the website for this place. It looks like a new place that just opened up.

http://sky-massage.com/ladies.html

Your experience with this lady sounds to me like the legendary Tulip Massage experience used to be for many guys who visited there.

This lady must be pretty good at keeping you in the mood. It's like cum or no cum, she isn't yet done. Your cock she resurrects, fully knowing that soon you'll be plowing one more time.

Franciscass
11-30-16, 04:21
It's difficult to feel relaxed as you scan the small room. 10 plus smiling faces saying pick me pick me. Umm 4th on the right not bad, then you see her. She is not looking at you, not smiling but there is something about her so you turn to the mamsan and point to the girl in the corner. She seems surprised and even reluctant and you feel oh oh wrong decision. At this stage I always order a beer and ask the girl if she would like one. She says yes and we head upstairs. The stairways in Bangkok shop houses were not built for tall farangs and when she turned to tell me to watch my head her smile and the realization that her body was perfectly shaped told me this could be special.

Her name is Bonus, 22 year old recruit two weeks into her new profession. Joined the Snow White team on the recommendation of a friend working there. After a rocky start with a difficult Korean she is beginning to settle in and feels excited about the kind of money she can make. Her best day was on her recent birthday when she pulled in 10,000 getting lucky with some Japanese customers.

Her English is good. As we drank our beers we chatted. She was very open and honest about her feelings. She wants to be successful and is prepared to give her everything to make that happen. She knows that repeat bookings are key and told me she has already had six.

Her love making is 100% GFE lots of kissing and touching. All services are available except anal but she knows that working at SW requires her to have this on her resume. She says in time within a month or so and with the right customer she will surrender her ass. Is this true or a lure to repeat? Time will tell I guess.

She does not compare to Ninja for technical prowess and if full on PSE is your thing then don't bother. For my tastes she is the sweetest girl I have met in a long time. I am no fool and always keep open the possibility that she is another consummate actress with a story but I don't care, my 2 hours with her were the best experience I have had in recent memory.

Franciscass
11-30-16, 08:30
I found the website for this place. It looks like a new place that just opened up.

http://sky-massage.com/ladies.html

Your experience with this lady sounds to me like the legendary Tulip Massage experience used to be for many guys who visited there.

This lady must be pretty good at keeping you in the mood. It's like cum or no cum, she isn't yet done. Your cock she resurrects, fully knowing that soon you'll be plowing one more time.This shop looks like a sister shop to Snow White. I notice Bonus is listed on both sites. For sure she no longer works at 26 replaced by a new Bonus about whom I recently posted.

Syzygies
11-30-16, 10:08
Reason I still took the girl was curiosity if the service would be different in shop and she was good enough and I didn't want to shop further that day as it was about to rain. Time was 4:30/5 on teusday the 8th. The "not anything special" was the end result of my research beyond the 24 and 24/1 shops I normally frequent. I should note that a higher performance from her would have resulted in a repeat, and perhaps I am handicapping the looks score based on just average experience. The SW girls probably look better in my memory since the performance is usually top notch.I don't think the service level belongs to the shop, it belongs to the particular girl and affected by chemistry. You should rate the looks before you fuck and try to stick to that. Only for guys that have tried several girls in a shop, can the shop service levels really be assessed. We get to understand that Snow White has a high average service level, as example, even with a high percentage of suspect mildly Psycho customers. Girls tell me many customers are really warped. LOL.

I always rate looks and service completely independently, as best I can. To try not think a girl is gorgeous just be because she fucks damn good. It's biased. I can overlook looks faults for girls damn good, but remain very picky about looks. I can get easily put off by fake noses and fake tits, unless very good jobs, which is less than 10%.

So if I rate a girl 6 for face and 6 for body, It's very unlikely I will take her. I know a bargirl that scores 9 and 9, but unfortunately is available rarely due to studies. I still have a massage girl pretty good with 7. 5 and 8 looks, and good GFE service. It's hard to drop back to 6 and 6 looks. No reason for me to do. I am not in such a hurry.

Franciscass
11-30-16, 11:19
I have no doubt that service levels and management attitude to customer satisfaction are inextricably linked. Yes individual girls have varying degrees of skill due to experience and natural affinity for the work and the more successful knowing real money comes from repeat business will always deliver but if the owner / management has little or no interest in whether the punter enjoyed himself or not in my experience this a place best avoided as the likelihood of a bad experience increases exponentially. With training and knowing it is the standard that they give their best whenever chosen most girls will become if not outstanding at least competent enough to leave the customer satisfied.

Ixgzca
11-30-16, 16:56
Bonus, 22 year old recruit two weeks into her new profession. Joined the Snow White team on the recommendation of a friend working there. After a rocky start with a difficult Korean she is beginning to settle in and feels excited about the kind of money she can make. Her best day was on her recent birthday when she pulled in 10,000 getting lucky with some Japanese customers.
Wow, she said two weeks? She's been there for almost six years. LOL.

Whoreman
11-30-16, 17:51
This shop looks like a sister shop to Snow White. I notice Bonus is listed on both sites. For sure she no longer works at 26 replaced by a new Bonus about whom I recently posted.


Wow, she said two weeks? She's been there for almost six years. LOL.These are their professional nicknames, not their real nicknames. I hear the old Bonus was popular so maybe the Snow White mamasan sees the similarity and gave her that name. I'll take her as soon as she starts A+.

Whoreman
11-30-16, 17:54
I have no doubt that service levels and management attitude to customer satisfaction are inextricably linked. Yes individual girls have varying degrees of skill due to experience and natural affinity for the work and the more successful knowing real money comes from repeat business will always deliver but if the owner / management has little or no interest in whether the punter enjoyed himself or not in my experience this a place best avoided as the likelihood of a bad experience increases exponentially. With training and knowing it is the standard that they give their best whenever chosen most girls will become if not outstanding at least competent enough to leave the customer satisfied.This explains why girls in Snow White have an excellent attitude and some girls in Cherry have a really poor attitude. It's all about superior management.

Whoreman
11-30-16, 18:08
She does not compare to Ninja for technical prowess and if full on PSE is your thing then don't bother. For my tastes she is the sweetest girl I have met in a long time. I am no fool and always keep open the possibility that she is another consummate actress with a story but I don't care, my 2 hours with her were the best experience I have had in recent memory.You didn't mention her looks at all. Is this the tall, dark-skinned girl or another newbie?

Vodkin
11-30-16, 19:03
It's difficult to feel relaxed as you scan the small room. 10 plus smiling faces saying pick me pick me. Umm 4th on the right not bad, then you see her. She is not looking at you, not smiling but there is something about her so you turn to the mamsan and point to the girl in the corner. She seems surprised and even reluctant and you feel oh oh wrong decision. At this stage I always order a beer and ask the girl if she would like one. She says yes and we head upstairs. The stairways in Bangkok shop houses were not built for tall farangs and when she turned to tell me to watch my head her smile and the realization that her body was perfectly shaped told me this could be special.

Her name is Bonus, 22 year old recruit two weeks into her new profession. Joined the Snow White team on the recommendation of a friend working there. After a rocky start with a difficult Korean she is beginning to settle in and feels excited about the kind of money she can make. Her best day was on her recent birthday when she pulled in 10,000 getting lucky with some Japanese customers..I am curious that she claims two weeks into her new profession. I remember seeing her pictures on SW website for quite some time. Also she is listed on Sky Massage (http://sky-massage.com/ladies.html) under the same nick name Bonus. Anyways, the masseuses sometimes are telling stories far true from their past.

Vodkin
11-30-16, 20:12
This shop looks like a sister shop to Snow White. I notice Bonus is listed on both sites. For sure she no longer works at 26 replaced by a new Bonus about whom I recently posted.Sorry Franciscass,

Just saw this post of yours. Understand that there is a new "Bonus" in SW. Ignore my previous post regarding the new girl at SW.

Franciscass
12-01-16, 00:49
I am curious that she claims two weeks into her new profession. I remember seeing her pictures on SW website for quite some time. Also she is listed on Sky Massage (http://sky-massage.com/ladies.html) under the same nick name Bonus. Anyways, the masseuses sometimes are telling stories far true from their past.There was a girl called Bonus who left some time back. The new girl I referred to uses the same name hence the confusion. Snow White needs to update their site. As to the new girl's looks personally while not a stand out I found her above average attractive but it more her personality that won me over.

Goatscrot
12-01-16, 01:32
I have no doubt that service levels and management attitude to customer satisfaction are inextricably linked. Yes individual girls have varying degrees of skill due to experience and natural affinity for the work and the more successful knowing real money comes from repeat business will always deliver but if the owner / management has little or no interest in whether the punter enjoyed himself or not in my experience this a place best avoided as the likelihood of a bad experience increases exponentially. With training and knowing it is the standard that they give their best whenever chosen most girls will become if not outstanding at least competent enough to leave the customer satisfied.Agree 100%. Management has everything to do with the gal's attitude and performance. They set the standard. If management does not insist the gals deliver a high level of service, they won't. I think the trend over the past few years is to not be as demanding. Why? Because in order to get and maintain a staff that looks decent, management cannot be as strict. There are far more oilies and competition for gals is quite fierce. Many of the shops on 24/1 allow the gals to work part time (2 weeks per month, which allows them to travel overseas to work the other two weeks), come to work at 5 pm, and give CBJ, one shot, etc. The lookers will flock towards those shops.

Overall I have found Saeng's shops (Tulip and Bongkot) to be providing the best service at the current time and for that matter over the decade that I have been a devoted oily denizen. She tries to recruit from her hometown and prefers gals that have not worked in other shops. Truly a winning formula. SW is a second in performance, but makes up a bit in the looks dept. I have just not found the gals there in recent years to be as intense as say Golf and Opor at Tulip. And yes, I have tried Ninja twice and found her meh at best. For the first few years of its existence, Mango was exceptional, with some really lookers who were all PSEs (Cherry, Ann, Mook, Apple, Bo, etc). Not so much the case in recent years.

Whoreman
12-01-16, 04:52
There was a girl called Bonus who left some time back. The new girl I referred to uses the same name hence the confusion. Snow White needs to update their site. As to the new girl's looks personally while not a stand out I found her above average attractive but it more her personality that won me over.Is there even one other poster on this forum who would choose a girl in an MP based soley on personality? Some indication of her looks would be helpful. Tall or short? Fat or thin? Dark or fair? Baby? Tattoos? Breast size?

Franciscass
12-01-16, 05:14
Is there even one other poster on this forum who would choose a girl in an MP based soley on personality? Some indication of her looks would be helpful. Tall or short? Fat or thin? Dark or fair? Baby? Tattoos? Breast size?Obviously of course it's the visuals that prompts initial selection but in the room assuming service is acceptable it's as much the personality as anything else that I remember and brings me back. If that's unusual so be it. As I said somewhere else her appearance is fine, her body is delightful, l no baby, tallish, small butterfly tattoo over left boob and breast size I would say B-C. Anything else I can help you with today sir?

Ixgzca
12-01-16, 08:04
Sorry Franciscass,

Just saw this post of yours. Understand that there is a new "Bonus" in SW. Ignore my previous post regarding the new girl at SW.Same girl. Even the same tattoo.

Franciscass
12-01-16, 09:00
Same girl. Even the same tattoo.If the Bonus I met is the same Bonus that has been working there 5 years then she is the best grifter I've come across and I've met my fair share over the years. But you may be right, I cannot tell from the pic on the site.

Whoreman
12-01-16, 09:12
Same girl. Even the same tattoo.You mean you've been into Snow White over the past couple of weeks and the girl called Bonus is the same one who has been there for 6 years? We're not talking about the photo on the SW website which is obviously the old Bonus. Somebody is clearly getting confused.

Ixgzca
12-01-16, 10:15
You mean you've been into Snow White over the past couple of weeks and the girl called Bonus is the same one who has been there for 6 years? We're not talking about the photo on the SW website which is obviously the old Bonus. Somebody is clearly getting confused.Yeah. I was there few days ago. Bonus even remembered me from when she was at Sky Massage a few months back.

Whoreman
12-01-16, 10:27
Yeah. I was there few days ago. Bonus even remembered me from when she was at Sky Massage a few months back.Sounds like she did a great job of fooling Franciscass into thinking she was a newbie. Must be a true pro.

Ixgzca
12-01-16, 10:29
Sounds like she did a great job of fooling Franciscass into thinking she was a newbie. Must be a true pro.Yeah, she doesn't do anal because some guy ripped her ass a few years back. She's hasn't been keen since.

Franciscass
12-01-16, 12:29
Sounds like she did a great job of fooling Franciscass into thinking she was a newbie. Must be a true pro.There is no fool like an old fool. She got me good. I'm off to the temple of shame. Thing is I paid just the standard 1500 and had a great time. I guess that is just how she gets her kicks. I'm definitely going back pretending I still believe her but now I'm holding the aces or maybe not.

AssLover945
12-01-16, 13:14
I found the website for this place. It looks like a new place that just opened up.

http://sky-massage.com/ladies.html

Your experience with this lady sounds to me like the legendary Tulip Massage experience used to be for many guys who visited there.

This lady must be pretty good at keeping you in the mood. It's like cum or no cum, she isn't yet done. Your cock she resurrects, fully knowing that soon you'll be plowing one more time.Well it Sky massage has its origins in Tulip.

Nong who used to work in Tulip long time back, who is now the owner of Snow-white is also the owner of Sky. So no surprises here.

Dan7373
12-01-16, 13:36
Well it Sky massage has its origins in Tulip.

Nong who used to work in Tulip long time back, who is now the owner of Snow-white is also the owner of Sky. So no surprises here.For me, it's a bit of a surprise that having a woman owner is better for guys. It seems like an experienced woman understands guys better than guys understand each other. Because most massage parlors are owned and controlled by guys. And they come nowhere near the kind of service you've described.

I suppose, this makes sense, if you think about it.

A guy owner doesn't have any sexual experience with other guys. He has only his own male experience to go by. Which means that he is very limited in understanding all the other guys who might be different from him in their taste, fantasies, and desire. A guy owner is likely to style the service according to his own personal tastes and desires. Which might not work for many guys, who are different from him.

But an experienced woman owner has been with so many different guys, that she understands how guys can be different from each other, and she knows how to accommodate everybody, rather than just set it up in her own narrow way.

MadMax81
12-01-16, 17:27
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner)..Can confirm almost all of the above!

Went there based on this post alone (first time there), asked for Guitar, was quoted 1900 baht for 1 hour and up to the room we went. Even before taking off her clothes she made it clear that she was up for #2 as well. Got a great blowjob in the shower, and came in her mouth. Blowjobs usually don't do it for me, so must've been something special! Anyway, off to the bed for the massage, which turned out to be more of the body-to-body type you get in the soapies than a regular oil massage. Man, this girl sure enjoys giving rim jobs! Never got that from a Thai girl before. She was well on her way of giving me a prostate massage as well, so I bet you can get it if you want it.

Sadly enough the big guy didn't fully recover from the shower blowjob, even with an extended 30 minutes (200 baht extra), so didn't get to do #2. All in all she is definitely a nympho, wildest massage I've ever got from a Thai girl.

But now to the "almost" part of the quoted post: in my personal opinion she is fat. Not sure what to call the baby damage, but it's definitely there, perhaps slightly more than slight. If I had asked for a line up I wouldn't even have considered her, on my scale she's a 5 tops looks wise, but of course everybody's scale differs. I usually like to shop around for the really petite ladies, and that she ain't. Had she been I'd probably been able to get it up for #2 and one or two more shots.

Anyway, can definitely recommend her if you're not too fixated on super skinny ladies and enjoy FMAACIMM ("Fuck my ass and cum in my mouth", as one lady on Soi 6 in Pattaya once held up a sign saying with a big smile.

Goatscrot
12-02-16, 08:18
But now to the "almost" part of the quoted post: in my personal opinion she is fat. Not sure what to call the baby damage, but it's definitely there, perhaps slightly more than slight. If I had asked for a line up I wouldn't even have considered her, on my scale she's a 5 tops looks wise, but of course everybody's scale differs. I usually like to shop around for the really petite ladies, and that she ain't. Had she been I'd probably been able to get it up for #2 and one or two more shots.Shame to hear about the baby drag. That always wilts the pecker with me. Shame we can't find gals in LOS that perform like this who are 8's, 9's, and 10's in the looks dept.

MusicalToM
12-02-16, 17:39
Hi all,

Been a long time since I visited LOS. I'll be coming to Pattaya for 6 nights where I'll be staying with my sort of GF. Before I head to Pattaya thought of trying A+ service at one of the parlor in Bangkok.

I've some weird questions:

1 - Since I'll be traveling to Pattaya, is it okay / acceptable / alright / possible to go to an Oily massage center with luggage? I just don't want to book a hotel just for keeping my luggage for couple of hours.

2 - I'll be landing in the morning, what can I expect in terms of availability of ladies between 10-11 AM?

I can go to Pattaya and take a good service before my girl arrives to Hotel, but not many options in Pattaya in terms of A+ service.

Regards,

Tom

Vodkin
12-02-16, 21:14
Hi all,

Been a long time since I visited LOS. I'll be coming to Pattaya for 6 nights where I'll be staying with my sort of GF. Before I head to Pattaya thought of trying A+ service at one of the parlor in Bangkok.

I've some weird questions:

1 - Since I'll be traveling to Pattaya, is it okay / acceptable / alright / possible to go to an Oily massage center with luggage? I just don't want to book a hotel just for keeping my luggage for couple of hours.

2 - I'll be landing in the morning, what can I expect in terms of availability of ladies between 10-11 AM?

I can go to Pattaya and take a good service before my girl arrives to Hotel, but not many options in Pattaya in terms of A+ service.

Regards,

TomSince you are landing in the morning, why don't you store your luggage at the airport before rushing to a parlor?

Crazy4Thai
12-03-16, 06:02
Hi all,

Been a long time since I visited LOS. I'll be coming to Pattaya for 6 nights where I'll be staying with my sort of GF. Before I head to Pattaya thought of trying A+ service at one of the parlor in Bangkok.

I've some weird questions:

1 - Since I'll be traveling to Pattaya, is it okay / acceptable / alright / possible to go to an Oily massage center with luggage? I just don't want to book a hotel just for keeping my luggage for couple of hours.

2 - I'll be landing in the morning, what can I expect in terms of availability of ladies between 10-11 AM?

I can go to Pattaya and take a good service before my girl arrives to Hotel, but not many options in Pattaya in terms of A+ service.

Regards,

TomTom, I would not store luggage at the airport unless I wanted to go back for it. Of course you could arrange transport from there to Pattaya and then that would work fine. At the massage shop they might be a little amused if you show up with luggage but I'm sure that they have seen it all before and will accommodate you graciously. I think. I also prefer the morning time frame that you mention as you will no doubt be the first customer of the day for your provider. Read up in this forum and either book in advance or make a short list of who might meet your needs. Please do report back your experience.

Syzygies
12-03-16, 08:03
Can confirm almost all of the above!

Went there based on this post alone (first time there), asked for Guitar, was quoted 1900 baht for 1 hour and up to the room we went. Even before taking off her clothes she made it clear that she was up for #2 as well. Got a great blowjob in the shower, and came in her mouth. Blowjobs usually don't do it for me, so must've been something special! Anyway, off to the bed for the massage, which turned out to be more of the body-to-body type you get in the soapies than a regular oil massage. Man, this girl sure enjoys giving rim jobs! Never got that from a Thai girl before. She was well on her way of giving me a prostate massage as well, so I bet you can get it if you want it.

Sadly enough the big guy didn't fully recover from the shower blowjob, even with an extended 30 minutes (200 baht extra), so didn't get to do #2. All in all she is definitely a nympho, wildest massage I've ever got from a Thai girl.

But now to the "almost" part of the quoted post: in my personal opinion she is fat. Not sure what to call the baby damage, but it's definitely there, perhaps slightly more than slight. If I had asked for a line up I wouldn't even have considered her, on my scale she's a 5 tops looks wise, but of course everybody's scale differs. I usually like to shop around for the really petite ladies, and that she ain't. Had she been I'd probably been able to get it up for #2 and one or two more shots.

Anyway, can definitely recommend her if you're not too fixated on super skinny ladies and enjoy FMAACIMM ("Fuck my ass and cum in my mouth", as one lady on Soi 6 in Pattaya once held up a sign saying with a big smile.Thanks for the report and there in lies a very good lesson.

Some of us guys are very looks oriented and I am biased toward girls well under 50 Kgs unless very tall.

A girl can have amazingly full on service yet some of us are still going to pass. I can't even bring myself to try an Escort that I never saw before in case the picture is not realistic.

I can admit to occasionally going looking for a girl based on a web pic, and in one or two cases it has turned out to be a fucking good choice more by good luck than by anything else. There was one web pic that interested me and I took nearly a year to pull the trigger I think. I kick myself now that I took so long, however the girl was definitely slim and curvy and not fat at all.

Very dangerous to make a booking without first seeing a girl, but sometimes works out. Its a gamble.

Would be nice if reports here estimated a girl's height and weight or at least indicated if she could be rated as slim or not. Detail is needed for readers to decide if a girl potentially fits our spec or not.

The girl in question has never been a possibility for me. I have seen pics that indicated not slim enough. I like almost anorexic girls at times up to slim and maybe medium build if extremely pretty.

Plenty of times a highly rated girl is not of interest for me as her looks and body are just not sufficient to hook me.

I can take a stunning girl with average service though. That is just crazy me. Of course the MPs don't really have stunners, or very scarce, but the odd very good looker with nice body and nice GFE service will do me fine.

Nearly 3 years ago there was a stunner called Angie working briefly at Cherry. Face scored 8.5+ and body was a 10. Even her service was a bit shy and hesitant I managed to enjoy her magnificent looks and would have repeated many times if she stayed there. Would never come close to the service level of Guitar I am sure even if she gained experience. Sometimes a girl with no skills can still be fun or enjoyable for me.

I do recall a Mango girl with good service that I never repeated as her looks and body just did nothing to turn me on. When in Thailand we can find well above average looks, if that is what matters. I did repeat Cherry at Mango plenty as she had skills plus a face 7 and body 9 points. A great combination. Also Cat with a face 8.5 and body maybe 7.

Whoreman
12-03-16, 14:42
Ninja's arsehole is usually lovely, tight and pink but today was enlarged, bruised and inflamed. Some fuckwit with a big dick had gone in her arse without lube and taken ages to finish. I feel sorry for her as it looks in a bad state. It got me thinking, what kind of dickhead would do that to a nice girl like Ninja? She offers guys something special to make their fantasies comes true and this prick just abuses her. Is it the same kind of guy who comes on here having contributed nothing and expects other posters to tell him exactly which girl to get from exactly which place because he doesn't have time to RTFF? Is it some loser who spends 50 weeks of the year wanking himself off to anal porn and then comes to Thailand and thinks that 'tearing this cum-craving wh0re a new asshole' is something you can do in real life? If you don't know how to perform anal sex on a girl without injuring her you need to stop looking at heavily edited porn and read some sexual advice websites.

Apart from the effect it has on the girl, it's also bad news for other mongers as now Ninja is not A+ while she recovers and she may go the same way as Bonus and refuse to do A+ again. This is why we can't have nice things!

Member #4698
12-03-16, 15:45
Ninja's arsehole is usually lovely, tight and pink but today was enlarged, bruised and inflamed. Some fuckwit with a big dick had gone in her arse without lube and taken ages to finish. I feel sorry for her as it looks in a bad state. <snip>

Apart from the effect it has on the girl, it's also bad news for other mongers as now Ninja is not A+ while she recovers and she may go the same way as Bonus and refuse to do A+ again. This is why we can't have nice things!*****man , this is why I no longer mention a girl's name or post pictures of my girls in the open forum. There are too many sick bastards out there who think fucking a girl so hard she can't walk or shit right for a week is good fun, or who think short changing a girl afterwards is acceptable behavior, or who have horrible hygiene problems.

I have spoken on the subject before of my idea to set up a private member network consisting of only stand up men who appreciate our sexy little friends and know how not to abuse or mistreat a girl. Then within a group of like minded punters, we could all freely and confidently exchange photos and information knowing that said information would be kept safe and held in strict confidence.

From time to time a BM, whom I have never heard of before, will PM me and ask for personal information regarding one of my girls. I always decline such a request because I will only share personal information with like minded punters that I know pretty well from meeting them in the real world or from reading their many worthwhile contributions here on the forum. This is a far cry from how I used to operate when I first came on the forum many, many years ago. I was burned once by some pencil dick who showed a girl some photos I had posted of her on the forum. I won't ever let that happen again. It felt like I had betrayed the girl.

Markly2
12-03-16, 17:14
*****man , this is why I no longer mention a girl's name or post pictures of my girls in the open forum. There are too many sick bastards out there who think fucking a girl so hard she can't walk or shit right for a week is good fun, or who think short changing a girl afterwards is acceptable behavior, or who have horrible hygiene problems.

I have spoken on the subject before of my idea to set up a private member network consisting of only stand up men who appreciate our sexy little friends and know how not to abuse or mistreat a girl. Then within a group of like minded punters, we could all freely and confidently exchange photos and information knowing that said information would be kept safe and held in strict confidence.

From time to time a BM, whom I have never heard of before, will PM me and ask for personal information regarding one of my girls. I always decline such a request because I will only share personal information with like minded punters that I know pretty well from meeting them in the real world or from reading their many worthwhile contributions here on the forum. This is a far cry from how I used to operate when I first came on the forum many, many years ago. I was burned once by some pencil dick who showed a girl some photos I had posted of her on the forum. I won't ever let that happen again. It felt like I had betrayed the girl.Well said sir.

Manfield04
12-03-16, 19:07
If you want to try A+ service, the bet for you will be Mango Massage on Soi 24 Sukhumvit. It opens at 10 am. You can also keep your luggage there. Just keep it locked in case you have a doubt.


Before I head to Pattaya thought of trying A+ service at one of the parlor in Bangkok.

Goatscrot
12-04-16, 02:37
Ninja's arsehole is usually lovely, tight and pink but today was enlarged, bruised and inflamed. Some fuckwit with a big dick had gone in her arse without lube and taken ages to finish. I feel sorry for her as it looks in a bad state. It got me thinking, what kind of dickhead would do that to a nice girl like Ninja? She offers guys something special to make their fantasies comes true and this prick just abuses her. Is it the same kind of guy who comes on here having contributed nothing and expects other posters to tell him exactly which girl to get from exactly which place because he doesn't have time to RTFF? Is it some loser who spends 50 weeks of the year wanking himself off to anal porn and then comes to Thailand and thinks that 'tearing this cum-craving wh0re a new asshole' is something you can do in real life? If you don't know how to perform anal sex on a girl without injuring her you need to stop looking at heavily edited porn and read some sexual advice websites.

Apart from the effect it has on the girl, it's also bad news for other mongers as now Ninja is not A+ while she recovers and she may go the same way as Bonus and refuse to do A+ again. This is why we can't have nice things!That's assault, plain and simple. The mamasans need to instruct the gals to stop guys who do this, end the session, and / or call for help. Dudes like that should at the very least be banned from the shop. And if they don't stop when asked, the police need to be called.

Goatscrot
12-04-16, 02:37
*****man , this is why I no longer mention a girl's name or post pictures of my girls in the open forum. There are too many sick bastards out there who think fucking a girl so hard she can't walk or shit right for a week is good fun, or who think short changing a girl afterwards is acceptable behavior, or who have horrible hygiene problems.

I have spoken on the subject before of my idea to set up a private member network consisting of only stand up men who appreciate our sexy little friends and know how not to abuse or mistreat a girl. Then within a group of like minded punters, we could all freely and confidently exchange photos and information knowing that said information would be kept safe and held in strict confidence.

From time to time a BM, whom I have never heard of before, will PM me and ask for personal information regarding one of my girls. I always decline such a request because I will only share personal information with like minded punters that I know pretty well from meeting them in the real world or from reading their many worthwhile contributions here on the forum. This is a far cry from how I used to operate when I first came on the forum many, many years ago. I was burned once by some pencil dick who showed a girl some photos I had posted of her on the forum. I won't ever let that happen again. It felt like I had betrayed the girl.A very good idea.

Jimmy Boy 99
12-04-16, 03:28
That's assault, plain and simple. The mamasans need to instruct the gals to stop guys who do this, end the session, and / or call for help. Dudes like that should at the very least be banned from the shop. And if they don't stop when asked, the police need to be called.Correct. However, why did it even get to that point? Could Ninja not have demanded he lube up first and not allow him entry if he wouldn't, and stop him when it got painful? Surely the mamasans can't be telling them that putting up with that kind of treatment is providing good service? It is abuse, not good service.

Ixgzca
12-04-16, 04:24
Correct. However, why did it even get to that point? Could Ninja not have demanded he lube up first and not allow him entry if he wouldn't, and stop him when it got painful? Surely the mamasans can't be telling them that putting up with that kind of treatment is providing good service? It is abuse, not good service.It's not the mamasans per se. She could not provide anal if she chose but she'd immediately lose a lot of money every month. She provides it because that allows her to get more customers ergo more money.
My guess is that the damage is most likely not from a single guy. Ninja probably gets assfucked 6-7 times on Saturday. No amount of lube can save a butthole from the effects of that.
I can recall one of the times when I went to visit her a few weeks back her backdoor looked pretty beat up. Then I went to visit a few days later and it was fine again. Swollen buttholes or vaginas are normal after repeated poundings. Hopefully it's not ripped though, that could be a serious problem.

Crocodilexp
12-04-16, 06:37
Ninja's arsehole is usually lovely, tight and pink but today was enlarged, bruised and inflamed. Some fuckwit with a big dick had gone in her arse without lube and taken ages to finish. I feel sorry for her as it looks in a bad state. Wishing her a speedy and complete recovery. The shops need to provide more support / training to the girls on how to handle these sorts of cases. Some girls can stand up for themselves and end a bad session, while others unfortunately cannot. Given the volume, it's inevitable that awful customers like that one will show up at some point, the issue is how to effectively deal with them and prevent the girl from getting hurt.

MusicalToM
12-04-16, 06:53
Since you are landing in the morning, why don't you store your luggage at the airport before rushing to a parlor?I've considered this option but it's a pain going back to Airport just to pick the luggage up. But yeah this would be my last option. BTW do you happen to know if they keep locked bags with laptops?


Tom, I would not store luggage at the airport unless I wanted to go back for it. Of course you could arrange transport from there to Pattaya and then that would work fine. At the massage shop they might be a little amused if you show up with luggage but I'm sure that they have seen it all before and will accommodate you graciously. I think. I also prefer the morning time frame that you mention as you will no doubt be the first customer of the day for your provider. Read up in this forum and either book in advance or make a short list of who might meet your needs. Please do report back your experience.You know it's easy to go Ekamai from Sukhumvit to catch a bus for Pattaya. Like I said above going back is my last resort.


If you want to try A+ service, the bet for you will be Mango Massage on Soi 24 Sukhumvit. It opens at 10 am. You can also keep your luggage there. Just keep it locked in case you have a doubt.I had a conversation with Cherry people, they are completely fine me carrying my luggage. They also requested to book a lady in advance since most of the ladies come later in the day. Mango is also under my consideration so is SW.

My flight lands around 4:30 AM and I'm expecting to pass immigration by 5 AM, God I've to wait for 5 Hrs. That's another reason I'm considering to go Pattaya and book a lady from DD.

Suggestions are welcome!

Syzygies
12-04-16, 06:56
Ninja's arsehole is usually lovely, tight and pink but today was enlarged, bruised and inflamed. Some fuckwit with a big dick had gone in her arse without lube and taken ages to finish. I feel sorry for her as it looks in a bad state. It got me thinking, what kind of dickhead would do that to a nice girl like Ninja? She offers guys something special to make their fantasies comes true and this prick just abuses her. Is it the same kind of guy who comes on here having contributed nothing and expects other posters to tell him exactly which girl to get from exactly which place because he doesn't have time to RTFF? Is it some loser who spends 50 weeks of the year wanking himself off to anal porn and then comes to Thailand and thinks that 'tearing this cum-craving wh0re a new asshole' is something you can do in real life? If you don't know how to perform anal sex on a girl without injuring her you need to stop looking at heavily edited porn and read some sexual advice websites.

Apart from the effect it has on the girl, it's also bad news for other mongers as now Ninja is not A+ while she recovers and she may go the same way as Bonus and refuse to do A+ again. This is why we can't have nice things!I feel sorry for the girl and her good customers that she has been abused.

Fuckwit is a great word. One of my favourites.

I feel guys are too heavily influenced by nasty porn in that they seem to want girls to suffer or be degraded rather than make a fun time.

I normally fuck long time but I never impose that on a girl's asshole and I have high quality non sticky lube. I also never try to make the girl do stuff she is not happy about. I wait for girls to offer the ass typically, and rarely do they offer. LOL.

I have to be content with good fitting pussy mostly and actually prefer it.

ParkVille
12-04-16, 09:18
I feel sorry for the girl and her good customers that she has been abused.

Fuckwit is a great word. One of my favourites.

I feel guys are too heavily influenced by nasty porn in that they seem to want girls to suffer or be degraded rather than make a fun time.

I normally fuck long time but I never impose that on a girl's asshole and I have high quality non sticky lube. I also never try to make the girl do stuff she is not happy about. I wait for girls to offer the ass typically, and rarely do they offer. LOL.

I have to be content with good fitting pussy mostly and actually prefer it.

These "girls" (wow, why call them such an innocent word??) are prositutes, they sleep with a ton of men, just anyone who walks in with cash in hand. Of course they're having sex with fuckwits, thugs, serial killers, etc and they don't mind that much. That's why the charge the price they charge. It's best to not get involved with their feelings, or why they do what they do, etc. They're just working employees. I think you guys are getting a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress. Don't care about them or their health, care about YOUR health. And don't get caught up in their trials and tribulations. They're just working employees, they're lucrative job comes with health risks, and a lot of lying/deceit.

Goatscrot
12-04-16, 09:43
These "girls" (wow, why call them such an innocent word??) are prositutes, they sleep with a ton of men, just anyone who walks in with cash in hand. Of course they're having sex with fuckwits, thugs, serial killers, etc and they don't mind that much. That's why the charge the price they charge. It's best to not get involved with their feelings, or why they do what they do, etc. They're just working employees. I think you guys are getting a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress. Don't care about them or their health, care about YOUR health. And don't get caught up in their trials and tribulations. They're just working employees, they're lucrative job comes with health risks, and a lot of lying/deceit.While I agree with you to a point, no employee in any profession should be subjected to physical abuse. That's a crime. If she kept her mouth shut and did not complain, then she is complicit. If she told the dude to stop and he didn't, then he assaulted her.

Wolvenvacht
12-04-16, 10:13
These "girls" (wow, why call them such an innocent word??) are prositutes, they sleep with a ton of men, just anyone who walks in with cash in hand. Of course they're having sex with fuckwits, thugs, serial killers, etc and they don't mind that much. That's why the charge the price they charge. It's best to not get involved with their feelings, or why they do what they do, etc. They're just working employees. I think you guys are getting a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress. Don't care about them or their health, care about YOUR health. And don't get caught up in their trials and tribulations. They're just working employees, they're lucrative job comes with health risks, and a lot of lying/deceit.Really? You seem to have missed the better part of the social history of the twentieth century.

You find that as long as an employee is paid, he / she can be exposed to dangerous and unhealthy work conditions. After all, that is why you get the wages you get. The health / profit / fun of the Boss comes first and all worker's unions or people concerned with bad working conditions are "a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress".

Now I understand why Mr. Trump got elected.

Wolvenvacht
12-04-16, 10:19
Wishing her a speedy and complete recovery. The shops need to provide more support / training to the girls on how to handle these sorts of cases. Some girls can stand up for themselves and end a bad session, while others unfortunately cannot. Given the volume, it's inevitable that awful customers like that one will show up at some point, the issue is how to effectively deal with them and prevent the girl from getting hurt.In many countries the working spaces of the working girls have a discete "alarm" button, they can press if they are in trouble.

Whoreman
12-04-16, 12:44
These "girls" (wow, why call them such an innocent word??) are prositutes, they sleep with a ton of men, just anyone who walks in with cash in hand. Of course they're having sex with fuckwits, thugs, serial killers, etc and they don't mind that much. That's why the charge the price they charge. It's best to not get involved with their feelings, or why they do what they do, etc. They're just working employees. I think you guys are getting a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress. Don't care about them or their health, care about YOUR health. And don't get caught up in their trials and tribulations. They're just working employees, they're lucrative job comes with health risks, and a lot of lying/deceit.I'm as contemptuous of the white knight syndrome as you are but I think you're wrong to say we shouldn't care about their health. Arse fucking a girl without lube is like borrowing a book from a library and scrawling notes all over it so it spoils the enjoyment of the next borrower. If you don't give a shit about the library or the next reader, as long as YOU get what YOU want from the book, then you're just anti-social scum. The same is true of a guy who just wants to get what he wants from a girl and doesn't give a shit about the girl or the next customer. It's just common decency not to vandalise library books or injure WGs.

Syzygies
12-04-16, 13:54
These "girls" (wow, why call them such an innocent word??) are prositutes, they sleep with a ton of men, just anyone who walks in with cash in hand. Of course they're having sex with fuckwits, thugs, serial killers, etc and they don't mind that much. That's why the charge the price they charge. It's best to not get involved with their feelings, or why they do what they do, etc. They're just working employees. I think you guys are getting a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress. Don't care about them or their health, care about YOUR health. And don't get caught up in their trials and tribulations. They're just working employees, they're lucrative job comes with health risks, and a lot of lying/deceit.I don't know what is eating you. Nothing wrong with having some empathy with someone working for you. I think people for be able to enjoy their work at times.

I certainly have no fantasies of damsels in distress. Someone has a wild imagination. They should not be in distress in the first place.

My idea of a good session involves joking around and having fun. Certainly not too serious and no sadism.

Girls don't like to work with assholes I am quite sure.

Syzygies
12-04-16, 14:20
Recently had a chance to go for a non massage at a Massage shop.

Went to New Massage first but my favorite girl had day off and others did not really look anywhere near as cute. Moved on.

Passed Addict. Plenty of girls outside but not one appealed. 80% plus fake noses giveing the alien look. 102 Massage the standard of looks was worse. Came to Mango and one girl looked OK. Wasn't my usual Fern.

Turned out to be Prae. I had seen her web pic in the past. Now her hair was redder and a bit shorter. Not very tall light coffee colour slightly darker than me. Maybe 156 cm and slim. Good waist to thigh ratio. Very nice high tits and ass no sag whatsoever, no babies. Does not smoke. Great taunt ass.

Very lucky to have picked out a girl with excellent shaped body. Slightly upturned natural nose, no surgeries. Face not skinny but also not broad.

DFK started early. No massage for me so on the bed DFK progressed to 69 quite soon. We both were into that. She got turned on and juiced up. Later diddled herself during sex.

With mish fucking, her puss was tight and barely taking more than 4 to 5 inches, which is not abnormal. I concluded she had not been fucked for a while and I was first customer. Did not seem to be anything stuffed in there. Needed to take it gradually to allow the vagina time to stretch and take more.

Had fun in a few different postions and finally orgasmed at around 60 or 70 minutes mark. She offered some massage but I declined and we just lay and chatted for a bit. I was not looking for a 2nd shot.

I had fingered her ass during sex which she seened to like OK and it seems she does do anal although probably not very long duration anal.

I can't really think of any faults to pick on, and would be happy to take her again. Because of no smoking she tastes good for tongue kissing. Age 26 but body seems younger as no sag at all. Tits are probably a large Acup or small Bcup and great to play with. Beautiful pointy nipples.

We did joke around and have fun. Nothing serious. I don't think her English is that fab, but she speaks Thai, Issan, and Suay a regional dialect.

Member #4698
12-04-16, 14:57
Really? You seem to have missed the better part of the social history of the twentieth century.

You find that as long as an employee is paid, he / she can be exposed to dangerous and unhealthy work conditions. After all, that is why you get the wages you get. The health / profit / fun of the Boss comes first and all worker's unions or people concerned with bad working conditions are "a little too wrapped up into their woven fantasies of damsel in distress".

Now I understand why Mr. Trump got elected.I agree with your 2nd paragraph, but find your 3rd paragraph uncalled-for, insulting, and a little irrational. Clinton lost. Get over it! Leave American politics out of the BKK Forum. Thank you.

AssLover945
12-05-16, 01:47
Can confirm almost all of the above!

Went there based on this post alone (first time there), asked for Guitar, was quoted 1900 baht for 1 hour and up to the room we went. Even before taking off her clothes she made it clear that she was up for #2 as well. Got a great blowjob in the shower, and came in her mouth. Blowjobs usually don't do it for me, so must've been something special! Anyway, off to the bed for the massage, which turned out to be more of the body-to-body type you get in the soapies than a regular oil massage. Man, this girl sure enjoys giving rim jobs! Never got that from a Thai girl before. She was well on her way of giving me a prostate massage as well, so I bet you can get it if you want it.

Sadly enough the big guy didn't fully recover from the shower blowjob, even with an extended 30 minutes (200 baht extra), so didn't get to do #2. All in all she is definitely a nympho, wildest massage I've ever got from a Thai girl.

But now to the "almost" part of the quoted post: in my personal opinion she is fat. Not sure what to call the baby damage, but it's definitely there, perhaps slightly more than slight. If I had asked for a line up I wouldn't even have considered her, on my scale she's a 5 tops looks wise, but of course everybody's scale differs. I usually like to shop around for the really petite ladies, and that she ain't. Had she been I'd probably been able to get it up for #2 and one or two more shots.

Anyway, can definitely recommend her if you're not too fixated on super skinny ladies and enjoy FMAACIMM ("Fuck my ass and cum in my mouth", as one lady on Soi 6 in Pattaya once held up a sign saying with a big smile.Thanks for confirming man. Yes her BJ stood out, her service stood out. Stellar I would say.

About her being fat, I don't find her fat really, I think she has a medium body type, but then YMMV.

I am glad people follow my report.

Whoreman
12-05-16, 06:54
I had fingered her ass during sex which she seened to like OK and it seems she does do anal although probably not very long duration anal.

I can't really think of any faults to pick on, and would be happy to take her again. Because of no smoking she tastes good for tongue kissing. Age 26 but body seems younger as no sag at all. Tits are probably a large Acup or small Bcup and great to play with. Beautiful pointy nipples.

Good report but I find it strange you consider Ninja's face too chubby but Prae's acceptable. Maybe the photos on the website don't do her justice but Prae seems to me to have a chubby face or maybe just a wide head. Anyway, with Ninja out of action for A+ I'll check out Prae this week.

The only thing I don't like about Mango is all the girls staring at you as you walk in and then they follow you in and start lining up before you've even requested it. And then if you don't choose a girl they call things out to you as you leave. The mamasan really needs to sort that shit out as it's off-putting. There's no point having non-A+ girls or girls with babies lining up if you're specifically looking for an A+ girl without a baby.

Syzygies
12-05-16, 07:55
Good report but I find it strange you consider Ninja's face too chubby but Prae's acceptable. Maybe the photos on the website don't do her justice but Prae seems to me to have a chubby face or maybe just a wide head. Anyway, with Ninja out of action for A+ I'll check out Prae this week.

The only thing I don't like about Mango is all the girls staring at you as you walk in and then they follow you in and start lining up before you've even requested it. And then if you don't choose a girl they call things out to you as you leave. The mamasan really needs to sort that shit out as it's off-putting. There's no point having non-A+ girls or girls with babies lining up if you're specifically looking for an A+ girl without a baby.Prae's face is not wide. I go for relatively narrow faces and Prae's face was quite acceptable. The last pic of Prae is reasonably realistic but her hair is shorter now and lighter colour. You can see she does not have a wide jaw. The first 3 pics are false, stretched to make her chest look larger I guess.

I would score Prae (Phrae) an 8 for body, and maybe a 7 for the face. Nose is not perfection but at least not fake and a little upturned. Its a lot better than my nose LOL. Her tits are medium size at best but very firm and high, so really excellent for me. Lovely nipples. Overall a really good body quite unexpected for most part in an MP. No flab or sag.

I also suffer from not meeting the real Ninja so perhaps her web site photos also do not do her justice. I noted her look varied across multiple pics. 90% of girls in SW do have faces too wide for me, so I understand what you mean about liking smaller face.

Any photos can be distorted or shopped of course.

I nearly crashed into a girl just behind me as I walked in when turning toward the desk receptionist. So I agree that would be better if girls were called to do a line up rather than crowding in behind me. However not a really big deal. Normally there are only going to be 1 or at most two girls of any interest to me, so calling a line up is a bit of waste of unless there is a stunner hiding away somewhere. LOL How likely is that.

All stunning Oily MP girls that I can recall right now were spied outside the shop, sometimes a fair distance from the shop, and were followed to their work place sometimes. This applies to Angie of Cherry (seen outside), Gaew at Pink seen arriving on motor bike, Bai Fern at Yoremichi seen walking on Soi 26, and recently a girl at New Massage (not quite to same looks standard but very cute) etc. I would not have even entered the shops without having seen to target girl first.

I would say 80% of my favorite Oily MP girls were first seen in daylight outside the shop, or maybe in a web pic occasionally. This is totally not the case in Soapy MPs where its unlikely to see girls outside.

Goatscrot
12-05-16, 07:55
Good report but I find it strange you consider Ninja's face too chubby but Prae's acceptable. Maybe the photos on the website don't do her justice but Prae seems to me to have a chubby face or maybe just a wide head. Anyway, with Ninja out of action for A+ I'll check out Prae this week.

The only thing I don't like about Mango is all the girls staring at you as you walk in and then they follow you in and start lining up before you've even requested it. And then if you don't choose a girl they call things out to you as you leave. The mamasan really needs to sort that shit out as it's off-putting. There's no point having non-A+ girls or girls with babies lining up if you're specifically looking for an A+ girl without a baby.Had Prae twice (at least a year apart) and both times it was a very so-so experience. She is not particularly enthusiastic and while she provides all services and is ok at them, they are performed in a very perfunctory fashion with very little intensity. Would not take her again. Honestly, if you are looking for an A+ gal with a great skill set, no baby, and can bring it, you can't do better than Golf at Tulip. Yes, she is in her 30's, but body is hard as a rock and she delivers the goods each and every time.

Goatscrot
12-05-16, 07:56
Prae's face is not wide. I go for relatively narrow faces and Prae's face was quite acceptable. The last pic of Prae is reasonably realistic but her hair is shorter now and lighter colour. You can see she does not have a wide jaw.Jaw is a bit square though.

Syzygies
12-05-16, 08:07
Had Prae twice (at least a year apart) and both times it was a very so-so experience. She is not particularly enthusiastic and while she provides all services and is ok at them, they are performed in a very perfunctory fashion with very little intensity. Would not take her again. Honestly, if you are looking for an A+ gal with a great skill set, no baby, and can bring it, you can't do better than Golf at Tulip. Yes, she is in her 30's, but body is hard as a rock and she delivers the goods each and every time.She probably doesn't like your style then. She was very enthusiastic with me. YMMV. She likes to have fun which is my style. I am not a demanding type. I just do things and girls go with the flow and hopefully get into it.

I know your expectations are high that every girl will be exactly how you like and your type of service. However I don't see this as likely. My type of service is different. I like girls to stay away from my ass.

Anyway good to have different opinions, to indicate she is not going to be great for everyone. My only reservation is her pussy size is a bit small for me.

I did not notice anything perfunctory. We were in most positions for extended duration. I am a soft and slow type customer. I do not like high intensity. Her pussy was too small to take a serious pounding, I would say. I commented it took time for her to stretch inside to fit properly. Normally girls with baby are more likely to have bigger inside pussy dimensions, but Prae seemed exceptional small in the pussy at first. Unfucked at least that day and maybe more.

Your square jaw comment, as usual makes little sense to me. Perhaps it means pointy jaw. Certainly not a horizontally broad jaw like often found in the north of Thailand, e.g. Chiang Mai "beauties". However Issan girls often have a slightly more pointy jaw than some. I usually don't notice unless the pointiness goes too far. Strangely I do notice very quickly hooked or bulbous noses, or fake noses.

Syzygies
12-05-16, 08:43
There's no point having non-A+ girls or girls with babies lining up if you're specifically looking for an A+ girl without a baby.I don't like severe baby damage girls nor serious saggyness, but 50% of my favorite girls have a baby already. I don't rule tham out purely for being a mother. It depends on the result.

My GF has 14 YO child but has very minor stretch marks not at all noticable in dim lighting, her tits were not saggy at all and pussy is still more than tight enough for me. She still has a really great body.

I don't really subscribe to ruling out all girls with a baby.

Fern at Mango has a baby but I don't rule her out. Probably does no anal either.

An 18 YO non mother with amazing tits does nake a nice change at times, but I meet those amazing tits rarely.

I love to be at Crazy House where I can see girls totally nude from a low vantage point in good lighting. All the damage is on show, I can see the deflated tits, or stretch marks, if any. Generally the worst damage is nose jobs and bad tit jobs but can be baby damage at times. The girl with football sized boobs is back LOL. They are very ugly.
Girls with almost perfect bodies can be got, depending on your spec. Not many big natural tits though

Whoreman
12-05-16, 09:43
Had Prae twice (at least a year apart) and both times it was a very so-so experience. She is not particularly enthusiastic and while she provides all services and is ok at them, they are performed in a very perfunctory fashion with very little intensity. Would not take her again. Honestly, if you are looking for an A+ gal with a great skill set, no baby, and can bring it, you can't do better than Golf at Tulip. Yes, she is in her 30's, but body is hard as a rock and she delivers the goods each and every time.She sounds similar to Emmy at Snow White who I did like but not really what I go for. I prefer the younger, compliant girls rather than an older girl who's going to stick her tongue down my throat and demand I come three times as soon as I enter the room.

Whoreman
12-05-16, 09:49
Your square jaw comment, as usual makes little sense to me. Perhaps it means pointy jaw. Certainly not a horizontally broad jaw like often found in the north of Thailand, e.g. Chiang Mai "beauties". However Issan girls often have a slightly more pointy jaw than some. I usually don't notice unless the pointiness goes too far. Strangely I do notice very quickly hooked or bulbous noses, or fake noses.Strange how different people see different things. I also see a bit of a square jaw (not chin) but overall I would just say her face is a bit too round for my usual tastes. I prefer a longer face but I'll still give Prae a go. If you look at the last photo from the Halloween set on the Mango site it shows her without the photoshopping. Her face looks fairly average but if she has a nice, baby-free body then I'll give her a go. Anna in the same photo has a longer, thinner face that I find more attractive but she's too old for my tastes.

Goatscrot
12-05-16, 12:54
Your square jaw comment, as usual makes little sense to me. Perhaps it means pointy jaw. Certainly not a horizontally broad jaw like often found in the north of Thailand, e.g. Chiang Mai "beauties". However Issan girls often have a slightly more pointy jaw than some. I usually don't notice unless the pointiness goes too far. Strangely I do notice very quickly hooked or bulbous noses, or fake noses.If you look at the back of her jaw it does not slope up, rather it is quite square and makes a very hard right angle up to the joint. Many Isaan gals have a square jaw. Kind of a turn off for me.

Syzygies
12-06-16, 05:02
Strange how different people see different things. I also see a bit of a square jaw (not chin) but overall I would just say her face is a bit too round for my usual tastes. I prefer a longer face but I'll still give Prae a go. If you look at the last photo from the Halloween set on the Mango site it shows her without the photoshopping. Her face looks fairly average but if she has a nice, baby-free body then I'll give her a go. Anna in the same photo has a longer, thinner face that I find more attractive but she's too old for my tastes.Yes tastes vary. I find Anna by far the least attractive in that photo. The nose job is not working for me. Maybe being made up as a witch is working too well. LOL.

I prefer Fern when she doesn't have that white makeup and Prae would be second then Sindy.

Prae face does look broader in that photo but seemed less in reality when I met her.

Out of curiosity, which website pic of Ninja is the most realistic? Shot 1 of 6 looks the best to me with slimmer face perhaps nose a little broad. Shot no. 6 looks 2nd best. Shots no. 2 to 5 appears to show puffy cheeks, does not appeal, and quite different to shot 1. Which look is most representative? I have to suspect the photoes were taken not all at the same time. Clearly two occasions possibly years apart. Like gained weight in the face for some photos? Shots 2 to 5 does not make her look slim to my eye. Am I deceived?

Syzygies
12-06-16, 05:06
If you look at the back of her jaw it does not slope up, rather it is quite square and makes a very hard right angle up to the joint. Many Isaan gals have a square jaw. Kind of a turn off for me.Back of the jaw? Do you mean the angle beneath the ear? Your description is very unclear to me.

I don't see any so called hard right angles. Do I lack the imagination to picture the right spot?

Amnesia
12-06-16, 05:41
This might seem like an odd question to some, but I hope I'll get some response:

Can you recommend a happy ending massage in Bangkok? I know there are plenty, and I feel like I've tried almost all of them. I'm still missing one where the girl really tries hard to upsell, touching inner thighs and balls and stuff during massage, and maybe even offers more than a HJ. I'm not looking for an oily. I'm looking for a mom'and'pop massage place, ideally with some big-breasted MILFs that are eager to do more than a massage (wouldn't mind a girl though either).

Any recommendations? The few places I found so far do not exist anymore or have changed their owners / staff.

Whoreman
12-06-16, 07:19
Yes tastes vary. I find Anna by far the least attractive in that photo. The nose job is not working for me. Maybe being made up as a witch is working too well. LOL.

I prefer Fern when she doesn't have that white makeup and Prae would be second then Sindy.

Prae face does look broader in that photo but seemed less in reality when I met her.

Out of curiosity, which website pic of Ninja is the most realistic? Shot 1 of 6 looks the best to me with slimmer face perhaps nose a little broad. Shot no. 6 looks 2nd best. Shots no. 2 to 5 appears to show puffy cheeks, does not appeal, and quite different to shot 1. Which look is most representative? I have to suspect the photoes were taken not all at the same time. Clearly two occasions possibly years apart. Like gained weight in the face for some photos? Shots 2 to 5 does not make her look slim to my eye. Am I deceived?I'm not saying Anna is the most attractive, just that the face shape is more to my taste. All of the photos of Ninja are representative and were taken within the past few months. The differences are just down to lighting. If you don't like her in those pics you won't like her in real life. I find Ninja's face shape much more attractive than Prae's and it seems most punters agree as she's clearly a lot more popular. Prae just looks like a totally average Isaan girl to me.

Goatscrot
12-06-16, 07:21
I'm not saying Anna is the most attractive, just that the face shape is more to my taste. All of the photos of Ninja are representative and were taken within the past few months. The differences are just down to lighting. If you don't like her in those pics you won't like her in real life. I find Ninja's face shape much more attractive than Prae's and it seems most punters agree as she's clearly a lot more popular. Prae just looks like a totally average Isaan girl to me.Have to agree with you. Prae looks like your average Isaan lass. Ninja has that Nakhon Panom look that blends some Lao and Viet in to provide a much softer look. I agree on Anna's face as well. But yes, she is a bit long in the tooth now.

Goatscrot
12-06-16, 07:22
Back of the jaw? Do you mean the angle beneath the ear? Your description is very unclear to me.

I don't see any so called hard right angles. Do I lack the imagination to picture the right spot?Correct, the angle beneath the ear. Not a fan of that square jawed look. Also the area around the eyes is quite square. I really like the classic Asian almond shaped face with no hard angles and of course not too round either.

Vodkin
12-06-16, 07:26
Yes tastes vary. I find Anna by far the least attractive in that photo. The nose job is not working for me. Maybe being made up as a witch is working too well. LOL.

I prefer Fern when she doesn't have that white makeup and Prae would be second then Sindy.

Prae face does look broader in that photo but seemed less in reality when I met her.

Out of curiosity, which website pic of Ninja is the most realistic? Shot 1 of 6 looks the best to me with slimmer face perhaps nose a little broad. Shot no. 6 looks 2nd best. Shots no. 2 to 5 appears to show puffy cheeks, does not appeal, and quite different to shot 1. Which look is most representative? I have to suspect the photoes were taken not all at the same time. Clearly two occasions possibly years apart. Like gained weight in the face for some photos? Shots 2 to 5 does not make her look slim to my eye. Am I deceived?In shot 1 of 6, Ninja has Snow White Menu in front of her on which prices for oil massage match the current prices (1 h 400 B, 1.5 h 500 B, 2 h 600 B). It can't be taken too far back in time, right?

Syzygies
12-06-16, 08:59
I'm not saying Anna is the most attractive, just that the face shape is more to my taste. All of the photos of Ninja are representative and were taken within the past few months. The differences are just down to lighting. If you don't like her in those pics you won't like her in real life. I find Ninja's face shape much more attractive than Prae's and it seems most punters agree as she's clearly a lot more popular. Prae just looks like a totally average Isaan girl to me.Being more popular is not the issue at all. Just 4 out of 6 Ninja photos don't appeal and look like chubby or puffy cheeks. I would like to see the real girl sometime in case I am getting the wrong impression.

I don't claim Prae is stunning but merely acceptable look to me when most of the girls looks were a much lower standard. I do find Fern prettier but she was absent. I rate Prae's body higher than the face as you already read.

I was easily able to pass on all the girls sitting outside addict and 102 simply they were not acceptable looking to me. So many ugly nose jobs. Some ugly tit jobs.

If these girls were in a bar, none of them are likely to be contenders at all. In a bar I take significant time to choose and try to evaluate all aspects of face, body naked, and attitude. Wise to do when the cost of a mistake is higher.

In comparison to other places Crazy House had only about 4 or 5 tit jobs in the whole line up (very low) last night, and only about 10 nose jobs in maybe 35 to 40 girls (a bit too high for my liking). Out front of Addict I would say 80 to 90% of girls had a nose job based on a very quick glance and the vast majority look bad to me.

There is a tendancy at various establishments for girls to get their surgeries all from the same place even though some of the jobs are horrible. I don't get it.

Who wants a cheap ugly tit or nose job?

All my regular girls of the last year, none have silicones and only one has a nose job that is a really high quality one that I admit looks good, using bone graft. I like the natural looks AFAP. I was thankful that Prae had natural looks and nothing to grate on my eyesight. Not stunning but one of few MP girls I have been willing to take. I probably only took 7 different MP girls for the year and 2 are almost forgotten now with no repeat considered.

I have not managed to select a girl at Snow White for some time. May have showed up at unlucky time, but most girls certainly had a broad face, many with nose or tit jobs putting me off too and many just not slim. I will keep trying to get more lucky and find a half stunner. LOL

JasonBen84
12-06-16, 23:42
I am regularly RTFF, but wondering what are the other gems hidden in Sky Massage besides Guitar? Like Tangmo, Anna, Fah? Looks so promising. Same for Bongkot I've been with Cash and Nooknik, besides that oil and Neena looks doable (YMMv). My favorite Mony / Momoy / May (ex- tulip, cherry) from Bongkot has left and I'm not lucky enough to find her again. What a girl she is, as a person and also as a performer too!

Does any of my fellow mongers had a chance to pop these hidden gems?

Vodkin
12-07-16, 05:37
I am regularly RTFF, but wondering what are the other gems hidden in Sky Massage besides Guitar? Like Tangmo, Anna, Fah? Looks so promising. Same for Bongkot I've been with Cash and Nooknik, besides that oil and Neena looks doable (YMMv). My favorite Mony / Momoy / May (ex- tulip, cherry) from Bongkot has left and I'm not lucky enough to find her again. What a girl she is, as a person and also as a performer too!

Does any of my fellow mongers had a chance to pop these hidden gems?Had a very good session with Rose at Bongkot a year ago. Rose used to live on the top floor of the shop. When I popped in around 11 am, I was her first customer of the day, there was no other choice too. But I was lucky to have her. Unfortunately she is no longer working there anymore and I have no idea where she went.

Whoreman
12-07-16, 05:45
Normally girls with baby are more likely to have bigger inside pussy dimensions, but Prae seemed exceptional small in the pussy at first.I'm a bit confused. Does this mean Prae does have a baby? From your earlier report I thought she didn't.

Manderly
12-07-16, 06:11
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. I had been pretty excited to go after reading about soapies here and elsewhere, so I'm wondering if I just got ripped off / taken advantage of, got a rare dud, or was just expecting something unreasonable.

I got there around 8 and picked #42, although plenty of others would have been OK too. She was by far the hottest girl I've been with since arriving in BKK a few days ago both in face and body, but the session itself left much to be desired.

There was no kissing, covered BJ only, no body massage, no sliding with soapy suds (why even call it a soapy at that point? And 1 single, rather unenthusiastic coupling. The whole thing struck me as mechanical and highly unerotic, despite the hotness of the girl. In fact, we were done within about 40 minutes, and she even seemed hesitant to let me touch her after that, insisting that any further contact would cost me extra. Even if I were considering it to begin with, I sure as hell was not going to pay (even more) with that attitude.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?

LA Guy 5
12-07-16, 08:46
I'm a bit confused. Does this mean Prae does have a baby? From your earlier report I thought she didn't.I had a session with Prae maybe a year ago. She had one of the best, if not the best, bodies from among the numerous PSE oily girls I have been with. I would be very surprised if as of when I saw her she had had a baby.

The problem with her though is unlike the vast majority of PSE girls I have been with at oilies, I felt from the moment the session began she put up a wall between me and her, sort of along the lines of "this is a professional transaction so let's get on with it. " If I recall she did moan but the moans were fake and distracting. I had some trouble finishing with her, but took one for the team and finally did so.

So my take: Great body, decent face, fake or perhaps standoffish attitude that got in the way of a fulfilling session. Having said this I have considered trying her again, for her great body, to see whether the other things fall in place. But so far I haven't done so.

Syzygies
12-07-16, 09:03
I'm a bit confused. Does this mean Prae does have a baby? From your earlier report I thought she didn't.Sorry for the confusing phrase. She has not had a baby. Was just supposed to be a comparison to girls who have bigger pussies.

Member #4591
12-07-16, 16:08
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. I had been pretty excited to go after reading about soapies here and elsewhere, so I'm wondering if I just got ripped off / taken advantage of, got a rare dud, or was just expecting something unreasonable.

I got there around 8 and picked #42, although plenty of others would have been OK too. She was by far the hottest girl I've been with since arriving in BKK a few days ago both in face and body, but the session itself left much to be desired.

There was no kissing, covered BJ only, no body massage, no sliding with soapy suds (why even call it a soapy at that point? And 1 single, rather unenthusiastic coupling. The whole thing struck me as mechanical and highly unerotic, despite the hotness of the girl. In fact, we were done within about 40 minutes, and she even seemed hesitant to let me touch her after that, insisting that any further contact would cost me extra. Even if I were considering it to begin with, I sure as hell was not going to pay (even more) with that attitude.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?It's pretty easy to see that she is not a fan of foreigners or white guys. Probably prefers Asian guys for obvious reasons. She also sounds like a premadonna. Did she have white skin? Or was she the darker type from Isaan. Any plastic surgery?

Member #4698
12-07-16, 16:22
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?Forgetabout Emmanuelle. Get back on the horse that threw you (the soapy massage venue) and check out the Lord. You will receive much better service there. YMMV always, but on what you can expect, read my 2016 Lord Reports.

Whoreman
12-07-16, 16:24
Nonny's got herself a Korean boyfriend / sponsor who she met in Snow White and has gone back to Nakhon Phanom. What's up with these young Korean guys? She was great for a one hour 3 hole session but I don't see PSE massage shops as the right place to be looking for long-term relationships. Hopefully it won't last and she'll be back.

Vodkin
12-07-16, 16:47
I am regularly RTFF, but wondering what are the other gems hidden in Sky Massage besides Guitar? Like Tangmo, Anna, Fah? Looks so promising. Same for Bongkot I've been with Cash and Nooknik, besides that oil and Neena looks doable (YMMv). My favorite Mony / Momoy / May (ex- tulip, cherry) from Bongkot has left and I'm not lucky enough to find her again. What a girl she is, as a person and also as a performer too!

Does any of my fellow mongers had a chance to pop these hidden gems?Fa who came from SW has apparently also left Bongkot. I had one in-call a year ago and one out-call in last March with Fa. Both sessions went extremely well. Now I guess that Fa has retired. Anyone know?

Vodkin
12-07-16, 17:35
Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has information or experience with Venus at 101. I visited the shop twice about three months apart and tried to book Venus. Both of the times I was told that she was "taking a long holiday". BTW their on-line booking portal never works well.

She was listed on escortinbkk for a while under the name of iPhone(yes, iPhone!) but has been de-listed a few months ago. She is still on Absolute Angels website but with status of "On Vacation".

I appreciate it very much if you could provide any lead about her.

Manderly
12-07-16, 17:56
It's pretty easy to see that she is not a fan of foreigners or white guys. Probably prefers Asian guys for obvious reasons. She also sounds like a premadonna. Did she have white skin? Or was she the darker type from Isaan. Any plastic surgery?Thing is I am (East) Asian! Just never lived there in my life.

Her skin was rather light and she had natural everything as far as I could tell (partly why I rated her so highly on looks).

The experience was just not what I expected, and considering it was almost twice the price of the oilies (tried Snow White and Mango so far), I was hoping for something special.

EihTooms
12-07-16, 18:38
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. I had been pretty excited to go after reading about soapies here and elsewhere, so I'm wondering if I just got ripped off / taken advantage of, got a rare dud, or was just expecting something unreasonable.

I got there around 8 and picked #42, although plenty of others would have been OK too. She was by far the hottest girl I've been with since arriving in BKK a few days ago both in face and body, but the session itself left much to be desired.

There was no kissing, covered BJ only, no body massage, no sliding with soapy suds (why even call it a soapy at that point? And 1 single, rather unenthusiastic coupling. The whole thing struck me as mechanical and highly unerotic, despite the hotness of the girl. In fact, we were done within about 40 minutes, and she even seemed hesitant to let me touch her after that, insisting that any further contact would cost me extra. Even if I were considering it to begin with, I sure as hell was not going to pay (even more) with that attitude.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?I have only tried a handful of Bangkok soapies and maybe a dozen oilies over the past 3-4 years and what you described would mostly match my experience. At this point I only try getting back on the horse that threw me the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. time on extremely rare occasion; when a friend with whom I otherwise share very similar tastes and likes strongly recommends another one, for example.

But even under those circumstances I have yet to spend time with a soapy or oily girl in her shop that I would want to spend so much as 100 baht to repeat. Clearly, these places are very popular so there must be something about me that is just not cut out for the system of choosing a girl with a numbered badge behind glass or pointing to a girl in a line up. Could be the same for you. And the only way to find out is to give it another try.

JasonBen84
12-07-16, 18:57
Thank you Sir! If I am right, Nonny's you specified used to go by different names as Mony / Momoy / May. I may be wrong, not sure. Sad to lose her though! Hope she has good new life ahead.

So it looks like not much info on Tongmo in Sky and others in Bongkot it seems!

Loss of SW apple, Mony, Ice, Bell, Ying put me in a deprived zone to find a classy yet crazy and playful girls in the oilies, mainly in PSE zone. Any such crazy, funny and playful PSE girls out there?


Nonny's got herself a Korean boyfriend / sponsor who she met in Snow White and has gone back to Nakhon Phanom. What's up with these young Korean guys? She was great for a one hour 3 hole session but I don't see PSE massage shops as the right place to be looking for long-term relationships. Hopefully it won't last and she'll be back.

Crocodilexp
12-07-16, 22:12
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?What you had is more-or-less standard. I never found much fun in Bangkok soapies. An average session is as underwhelming as yours, and even the best sessions were not particularly memorable. There's something stifling about the environment / format, and the value is simply not there.

Not sure why people use those at all, maybe it's the thrill of choosing from the fish tank.

Lefeu
12-08-16, 01:14
...There's something stifling about the environment / format, and the value is simply not there.

Not sure why people use those at all, maybe it's the thrill of choosing from the fish tank.I have spent quite a bit of time in soapies, as I really used to enjoy them. Lately, over the past 4/5 years, they have not been as much fun, and your description above is right on, a stifling environment / format. The girls are not much into their task and it shows.

Why do I use them? Mostly for convenience. When I land in Thailand, I am dead tired from the long trip. It typically takes me a couple of days to feel normal again. The soapies are excellent venues in those first few days. It takes little effort, just point to a girl or a number, and voila you get to shag a chick. When I started going to LOS, back in 2004, they were a lot of fun. Not so much these days. But it certainly beats the hassle of going out for the chase, buying drinks and chatting the girls.

Whoreman
12-08-16, 04:30
Thank you Sir! If I am right, Nonny's you specified used to go by different names as Mony / Momoy / May. I may be wrong, not sure. Sad to lose her though! Hope she has good new life ahead.

Nonny is a new girl who worked there for about half a year.

Goatscrot
12-08-16, 04:31
I had a session with Prae maybe a year ago. She had one of the best, if not the best, bodies from among the numerous PSE oily girls I have been with. I would be very surprised if as of when I saw her she had had a baby.

The problem with her though is unlike the vast majority of PSE girls I have been with at oilies, I felt from the moment the session began she put up a wall between me and her, sort of along the lines of "this is a professional transaction so let's get on with it. " If I recall she did moan but the moans were fake and distracting. I had some trouble finishing with her, but took one for the team and finally did so.

So my take: Great body, decent face, fake or perhaps standoffish attitude that got in the way of a fulfilling session. Having said this I have considered trying her again, for her great body, to see whether the other things fall in place. But so far I haven't done so.Would agree with your assessment of her performance. Not a good actress and incapable of creating a good mood. I tried her again and the experience was the same. Another friend had the same experience. Seems to be her MO.

ParkVille
12-08-16, 07:19
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. I had been pretty excited to go after reading about soapies here and elsewhere, so I'm wondering if I just got ripped off / taken advantage of, got a rare dud, or was just expecting something unreasonable.

I got there around 8 and picked #42, although plenty of others would have been OK too. She was by far the hottest girl I've been with since arriving in BKK a few days ago both in face and body, but the session itself left much to be desired.

There was no kissing, covered BJ only, no body massage, no sliding with soapy suds (why even call it a soapy at that point? And 1 single, rather unenthusiastic coupling. The whole thing struck me as mechanical and highly unerotic, despite the hotness of the girl. In fact, we were done within about 40 minutes, and she even seemed hesitant to let me touch her after that, insisting that any further contact would cost me extra. Even if I were considering it to begin with, I sure as hell was not going to pay (even more) with that attitude.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?Mechanical performances and covered BJ's are very, very common at ratchada soapies. I generally avoid them, despite living close by there. Emmanuelle has some hotties, but their management is really fucking annoying. Had one mamasan constantly hound me to pay 20,000 baht for VIP. I kept telling her no, and she finally took my money for the hour and then proceeded to miscount it asking for 1000 baht more. I obviously didn't budge, then she asked for a tip after all of that!! LOL, whatever. I don't mind that much, they have some hot girls, but horrible management.

How much did this your girl cost OP? And why was she so "hot" ? I used to see one there who has a big butt and probably is a 9/10 at the 3700 price range.


no sliding with soapy suds Yep, none of these "soapies" do that. It's only foreigners like us that call them soapies, the Thai's don't call them this or expect this air mattress service. And you shouldn't either, it's just sex, and usually a blowjob isn't part of it if you are not going to the Lord.

ParkVille
12-08-16, 07:25
Nonny's got herself a Korean boyfriend / sponsor who she met in Snow White and has gone back to Nakhon Phanom. What's up with these young Korean guys? She was great for a one hour 3 hole session but I don't see PSE massage shops as the right place to be looking for long-term relationships. Hopefully it won't last and she'll be back.Good questions. From what I hear, there are some very lonely Korean guys, and Thai girls are way cheaper / less materialistic than local Koreans are. Like, there isn't a good GFE providing P4 P industry in Korea. It involves something like buying the girls $300 hand bags and them not putting out but they get to spend a few hours with them pretending to be their boyfriend. So he probably got tired of that, headed to Thailand, and fell for the first girl he liked who actually puts out.

Crazy4Thai
12-08-16, 08:59
I have spent quite a bit of time in soapies, as I really used to enjoy them. Lately, over the past 4/5 years, they have not been as much fun, and your description above is right on, a stifling environment / format. The girls are not much into their task and it shows.

Why do I use them? Mostly for convenience. When I land in Thailand, I am dead tired from the long trip. It typically takes me a couple of days to feel normal again. The soapies are excellent venues in those first few days. It takes little effort, just point to a girl or a number, and voila you get to shag a chick. When I started going to LOS, back in 2004, they were a lot of fun. Not so much these days. But it certainly beats the hassle of going out for the chase, buying drinks and chatting the girls.I think you have described it well. It has become one of those "back in the day" topics. My first oily was in '92 at? Cleopatra's I think. It was the soapy of your dreams. Bareback was the norm then and the girl slipped me into her some 20 minutes into the slip and slide. Probably she had pre-lubed herself. Or not. It was amazing.

Syzygies
12-08-16, 09:20
So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. I had been pretty excited to go after reading about soapies here and elsewhere, so I'm wondering if I just got ripped off / taken advantage of, got a rare dud, or was just expecting something unreasonable.

I got there around 8 and picked #42, although plenty of others would have been OK too. She was by far the hottest girl I've been with since arriving in BKK a few days ago both in face and body, but the session itself left much to be desired.

There was no kissing, covered BJ only, no body massage, no sliding with soapy suds (why even call it a soapy at that point? And 1 single, rather unenthusiastic coupling. The whole thing struck me as mechanical and highly unerotic, despite the hotness of the girl. In fact, we were done within about 40 minutes, and she even seemed hesitant to let me touch her after that, insisting that any further contact would cost me extra. Even if I were considering it to begin with, I sure as hell was not going to pay (even more) with that attitude.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?Yes you got a dud, and they are not all that uncommon. Soapy refers to the Soapy Suds bath more than anything. Body slide girls were still a possible thing at Emmanuelle a couple of years back but I did not check recently about that. I used to have a collection of favorite soapy girls to visit at Amsterdam, La Belle, Utopia, Emanuelle, etc. , but most of these have disappeared. No. 14 at Annies was still good for me, but I don't like the rooms much.

One can assume that there was no chemistry between you and the girl. She may prefer Thai customers, or Japanese or Korean. Could be a racial issue as well. Many Thais are racists.

In Thai these Places are called "Aap Op Nuat", which means "bathe, steam, and massage". No reference to body slides.

For a good body slide I suggest you go to Dr. BJ Nuru now renamed to Chrome bar in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. Body slides are still available at some Soapy places. Perhaps Chao Praya 2, in Sri Ayuthaya Road still has them. That was my original favorite place till it went into decline and most body slide girls were not at all slim.

Annies has body slide but in cramped space, also can be had at Colonze 2, and various Nuru shops. Most body slide places have shut down. Do not go to J One or Cupidy as these are rip off places.

My big problem at Soapy places is to find enough pretty girls without nose jobs or silicones, that are not dick scared and will give GFE with DFK. Used to be so easy to get these at Chao Praya 2 and Mona Lisa and Cleopatra up to 10 years ago, but these days I am not sure where to look for a good price. Things declined badly after Thaksin came to power in Thailand, and all the girls that were not Thai citizens or age problem were swept out. Recently we had a second sweep out period and Nataree was shut down.

Nothing has declined so badly as the girls in the Soapies, in my view. This caused me to start trying Oily MPs from about 10 years ago. These also declined or I became a lot more choosy. Bars also declined in terms of big price rise, and too many surgeries girls and too many young fatties.

Syzygies
12-08-16, 09:35
Why do I use them? Mostly for convenience. When I land in Thailand, I am dead tired from the long trip. It typically takes me a couple of days to feel normal again. The soapies are excellent venues in those first few days. It takes little effort, just point to a girl or a number, and voila you get to shag a chick. When I started going to LOS, back in 2004, they were a lot of fun. Not so much these days. But it certainly beats the hassle of going out for the chase, buying drinks and chatting the girls.10 to 15 years ago I agree, I would prefer a Soapy. If happened to get a weak girl, at Chao Praya 2, no matter, just book another one to follow on. Prices were very reasonable. It still took me a lot of time to view the girls, size them up, and finally make a choice. I had a good mamasan to advise me too.

I actually prefer now to view girls naked in a bar for some time, finally call over one or more for a chat, and take time to make the decision. Its not so cheap these days that a mistake is no big deal. I really have been able to minimise the bar girl mistakes in the last two years by being very patient and not choosing in a rush like I used to.

Unfortunately dick scared girls cannot be easily predicted whether at a Soapy, a Bar or an Oily, Disco, Freelancer whatever. Have found a very high incidence of dick scared girls at Soapies in recent years. Better for me to choose mothers. LOL. Also I am often disappointed in the girl's bodies after they take the clothes off. It is hard to see the figure with Soapy girls seated. If they can stand, that helps a lot. Annies asks girls to stand, but it is all too quick to really look at figure detail in time.

Goatscrot
12-08-16, 11:24
Good questions. From what I hear, there are some very lonely Korean guys, and Thai girls are way cheaper / less materialistic than local Koreans are. Like, there isn't a good GFE providing P4 P industry in Korea. It involves something like buying the girls $300 hand bags and them not putting out but they get to spend a few hours with them pretending to be their boyfriend. So he probably got tired of that, headed to Thailand, and fell for the first girl he liked who actually puts out.Yes, Korean gals are materialistic, but my experience is that they deliver the goods in bed. Far more intense, nastier, and more fun than Thai gals. I would never want to date one, but as far as P4 P goes the ones I have been with have blown most Thai gals out of the water. Nice white skin as well.

Syzygies
12-08-16, 15:21
Nonny's got herself a Korean boyfriend / sponsor who she met in Snow White and has gone back to Nakhon Phanom. What's up with these young Korean guys? She was great for a one hour 3 hole session but I don't see PSE massage shops as the right place to be looking for long-term relationships. Hopefully it won't last and she'll be back.Most girls would be glad to find a good man to take them away from it all. However problems occur.

Sometimes the girls imagined a far more quiet sex life but find the boyfriend wants to fuck several times per day. Sometimes she is happier with sex once or twice a week.

Sometimes the man can't sustain the very high cost of supporting the girl and her extended family of parents and brothers and sisters. She turns out to be just too expensive. He suddenly realises it was much cheaper per fuck to visit her as a customer. Sometimes the man has tricked her into thinking he is wealthy and she will live like a queen.

High sex requirements by the man and high money requirements by the girl are just some of the problems. A lot of the girls get forced to return more than once.

I would be really happy to find a hot girl who wanted sex just 5 to 7 times per week. Occasionally found girls that say they want it everyday, but reality is not the same.

Whoreman
12-08-16, 15:34
Good questions. From what I hear, there are some very lonely Korean guys, and Thai girls are way cheaper / less materialistic than local Koreans are. Like, there isn't a good GFE providing P4 P industry in Korea. It involves something like buying the girls $300 hand bags and them not putting out but they get to spend a few hours with them pretending to be their boyfriend. So he probably got tired of that, headed to Thailand, and fell for the first girl he liked who actually puts out.I know there's a matchmaking industry in Korea for rural men to find southeast Asian brides and can even understand some Korean guy falling in love with a girl he met in Thermae or somewhere like that. At least picking up a girl there can give you the impression of meeting a normal girl. But unless he stumbled into Snow White accidentally he must have known the nature of the place. Nonny is unusually sweet but she took a lot of dick in all 3 holes during her brief stint there. When this guy grows up that's going to give him something to think about.

Lefeu
12-08-16, 15:40
...my experience is that they deliver the goods in bed. Far more intense, nastier, and more fun than Thai gals. I would never want to date one, but as far as P4 P goes the ones I have been with have blown most Thai gals out of the water. Nice white skin as well.My experience too. Back home, that's all I visit, just Korean WG. IMO, they are the best in every activity, be it DFK, P2 P, FS, massage. I can't have enough of them. Thank God there is plenty of them close to where I live, for now.

Whoreman
12-08-16, 15:43
Most girls would be glad to find a good man to take them away from it all.A star PSE girl like Nonny must have had 4-5 customers a day which means she would have been earning maybe 200,000 baht a month. A lot of P4 P girls are looking for Mr Right but I think PSE girls are looking for quick money. Maybe she got the money she needs and is now happy with whatever this guy is paying her. I doubt this guy is a high earner though so might not be able to give her what she's used to.

Syzygies
12-08-16, 16:25
A star PSE girl like Nonny must have had 4-5 customers a day which means she would have been earning maybe 200,000 baht a month. A lot of P4 P girls are looking for Mr Right but I think PSE girls are looking for quick money. Maybe she got the money she needs and is now happy with whatever this guy is paying her. I doubt this guy is a high earner though so might not be able to give her what she's used to.An average girl doesn't make so much but a really top girl can get 150 K. I guess 200 K maybe fairly rare, I don't know the girl of course. Anyway, most guys can't afford to support a girl to the tune of 150 K per month. That is a bit beyond me, so I never comtemplated taking a 150 K girl away from it. LOL. There was such a girl that I seriously liked in the past, but 150 K is way too far. LOL.

Do math and work out how much it costs to support her on a per fuck basis, making some assumptions that sex might be often and damn good. LOL.

So rich benefactors only I think. Then you have to think of what other things she is great for, outside of sex. My GF doesn't bring to me many of the things I was expecting or hoping for, including not enough sex. Having a GF is not always so worthwhile whether great at sex or not. Costly though.

Goatscrot
12-08-16, 17:53
Most girls would be glad to find a good man to take them away from it all. I think that used to be the case 15 years ago, but now they make far more money and there are very few dudes that would support them at the monetary level they make at the oilies.

Member #4698
12-08-16, 18:07
My GF doesn't bring to me many of the things I was expecting or hoping for, including not enough sex. Having a GF is not always so worthwhile whether great at sex or not. Costly though."For every gorgeous woman out there, there's a guy tired of banging her." - Another relevant Charlie Sheen quote.

I myself begin to lose my desire for a girl after 1 week of monogamous sex with her no matter how sexy and beautiful she is. I need variety to stay hard and cum. That's why I will probably never settle down with just one girl. Perhaps a two girl relationship might work if the girls can get along. Ha Ha. But I would probably get tired of two girls after a while too if that's all there was.

Wolvenvacht
12-08-16, 20:36
Nonny is unusually sweet but she took a lot of dick in all 3 holes during her brief stint there. When this guy grows up that's going to give him something to think about. But really, whether she had 1 or 10 or 100 of more "lovers" in the past, what difference does that make? Could one really be jealous about "lovers" of the past? The mind boggles! It takes a very insecure mind to be bothered by that.

I know the saying "You can take the girl out the bar, but not the bar out the girl", but that's another issue.

Syzygies
12-08-16, 21:38
"For every gorgeous woman out there, there's a guy tired of banging her." - Another relevant Charlie Sheen quote.

I myself begin to lose my desire for a girl after 1 week of monogamous sex with her no matter how sexy and beautiful she is. I need variety to stay hard and cum. That's why I will probably never settle down with just one girl. Perhaps a two girl relationship might work if the girls can get along. Ha Ha. But I would probably get tired of two girls after a while too if that's all there was.That is not me. If the girl is good enough, I don't get tired of her too quick. One Gik I was doing occasionally for 20 years and at one period was weekly.

I never got tired of banging the GF either after 11 years, but just don't get it often enough. Lately I have a girl I could do every day, if she was available continuously. Best I have got was about 4 days in a row with her.

I won't take someone else in preference because I know she is better. My mongering is largely a function of being deprived of a beautiful fuck with a beautiful girl.

Member #4698
12-08-16, 22:06
That is not me. If the girl is good enough, I don't get tired of her too quick. One Gik I was doing occasionally for 20 years and at one period was weekly.

I never got tired of banging the GF either after 11 years, but just don't get it often enough. Lately I have a girl I could do every day, if she was available continuously. Best I have got was about 4 days in a row with her.

I can be very happy with a girl, having sex with her occasionally for a prolonged period of time too, if I really dig her and as long as I am getting lots of other girls on the side whenever I want it. But my point was that I know I could not stay satisfied with only one woman in monogamy, going to bed with her every single night. It wouldn't matter if she was a 19 year old Bridget Bardot. At a certain point I would become completely familiar with her and her body (her pussy and her tits) and at that point the relationship would hit the wall and begin to trend downward unless I could get away and find other women to satisfy my need for NEW.

On my last visit to Manila, I hooked up with my two favorite Makati Bar girls for 9 out the 10 nights I stayed there. Some of the guys over in the Makati forum ribbed me over this. I didn't mind their good-natured humor. I have known my two Makati girls for a few years now. On my last night in town I threw a farewell party in their bar. We had 10 Tequilas each. Both girls were blowing me in the bar. A girl friend of theirs joined us and she blew me in the bar too. Then all 4 of us jammed into a taxi back to my hotel were we really got it on. It was the best night I have had in at least 5 or 6 years. So I am thinking I need more than one girl, two girls minimum, for a lasting, satisfying, open relationship. 555.

Buddha, I miss SE Asia. I really miss the girls.

N.B.

Syzygies
12-09-16, 00:10
I can be very happy with a girl, having sex with her occasionally for a prolonged period of time too, if I really dig her and as long as I am getting lots of other girls on the side whenever I want it. But my point was that I know I could not stay satisfied with only one woman in monogamy, going to bed with her every single night. It wouldn't matter if she was a 19 year old Bridget Bardot. At a certain point I would become completely familiar with her and her body (her pussy and her tits) and at that point the relationship would hit the wall and begin to trend downward unless I could get away and find other women to satisfy my need for NEW.
I don't really understand the need for NEW but I do understand the need for Change or variety. The question for me would be how big a harem would need to be to make me completely happy. I think a 5 or 6 girl harem could be fine if includes a western girl or two, Asian, and a black beauty, and at least 1 girl with large natural knockers. To be fair I would allow the girls to get variety of men also.

As mongers, we tend to collect several regulars to form a harem, but most of the harem are P4 P girls.

On another topic, I think either partner gets bored less, if can reach orgasms easily. My GF is so sensitive she gets orgasms with no difficulty, so she could probably get them with a wide variety of guys, where girls difficult to cum may need to find the guy with the right techniques or willing to learn.

I don't know if girls like a wide variety of cock shapes and sizes. I know I don't like pussies to be too small nor too large. Best with even grip along length of cock and slide very easy for me. So prefer medium to large sized squeezing pussies, but not cavenous.

I really only have desire to try NEW girls if either desperate for sex and regulars not available, or if the NEW girl is super special looking. Tonight I nearly missed out fucking a girl altogether, as some of the options just did not look exciting enough, and the super stunner was not available.

AquaDreams
12-09-16, 01:11
Anyone ever bring their own tunes to the MPs? Will be my first time in BKK this coming February, I am putting together a few play-lists to enhance the vibe. Want to bring in my iPhone and Bose Soundlink II, bluetooth link. Do they allow this, as long as the volume isn't too intense? Seems like a very good idea.

ParkVille
12-09-16, 05:45
An average girl doesn't make so much but a really top girl can get 150 K. I guess 200 K maybe fairly rare, I don't know the girl of course. Anyway, most guys can't afford to support a girl to the tune of 150 K per month. That is a bit beyond me, so I never comtemplated taking a 150 K girl away from it. LOL. There was such a girl that I seriously liked in the past, but 150 K is way too far. LOL.

Do math and work out how much it costs to support her on a per fuck basis, making some assumptions that sex might be often and damn good. LOL.

So rich benefactors only I think. Then you have to think of what other things she is great for, outside of sex. My GF doesn't bring to me many of the things I was expecting or hoping for, including not enough sex. Having a GF is not always so worthwhile whether great at sex or not. Costly though.I would think you can typically take a 150 K (or whatever) girl out as for less than their actual salary. Think of it as a "work from home" perk. They can be paid less since they don't have to sit around in a brothel all day. They can now go on vacations to Europe / Samui / etc, take selfies and gain face with their family / cousins / etc, something that is like equally as important as money. But yet, most guys who do that are rich, or rather, come from rich families. They pay the monthly bill on the car that they "buy" them, girl gains a lot more face, doesn't have to work in Bangkok / Pattaya. So a whole 150 k / month isn't needed to match the benefits / perks of not having to actually work anymore. Also, these rich benefactors tend to get bored of the relationship after a year (like how many of these relatioships work out in the long run anyway right? And the girl goes back to work in the brothel. Pretty much any girl who can speak perfect English (and works in a brothel in Thailand) had something like this happen.

Asian Rain
12-09-16, 07:47
Anyone ever bring their own tunes to the MPs? Will be my first time in BKK this coming February, I am putting together a few play-lists to enhance the vibe. Want to bring in my iPhone and Bose Soundlink II, bluetooth link. Do they allow this, as long as the volume isn't too intense? Seems like a very good idea.I would ignore the previous reply. Over the top in my opinion and did not even seem to register that you would keep the volume at reasonable levels. Coming to BKK is about getting what you want and having a good time. If some tunes will make for a better experience, then why not? You don't have to be like everyone else, especially conforming to the styles of the eclectic bunch here. None of the walls are so thin that some light music will be a disturbance. There is no issue to bring such kit with you and your girl will probably be apprehensive at first when you dig into your bag, then thankful that you are pulling out a speaker rather than a strapon, giant dong, handcuffs or anal beads like some of the other customers might do.

Although not at MPs, I have had a number of girls play music on their phone because that is what they like during a session. Personally I find music or TV a distraction, so I always get things silent. To each his own. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.

Member #4591
12-09-16, 08:17
I would think you can typically take a 150 K (or whatever) girl out as for less than their actual salary. Think of it as a "work from home" perk. They can be paid less since they don't have to sit around in a brothel all day. They can now go on vacations to Europe / Samui / etc, take selfies and gain face with their family / cousins / etc, something that is like equally as important as money. But yet, most guys who do that are rich, or rather, come from rich families. They pay the monthly bill on the car that they "buy" them, girl gains a lot more face, doesn't have to work in Bangkok / Pattaya. So a whole 150 k / month isn't needed to match the benefits / perks of not having to actually work anymore. Also, these rich benefactors tend to get bored of the relationship after a year (like how many of these relatioships work out in the long run anyway right? And the girl goes back to work in the brothel. Pretty much any girl who can speak perfect English (and works in a brothel in Thailand) had something like this happen.Wow Parkville. I'm surprised to read such an intelligent post from you. Very good insight on the matter.

Whoreman
12-09-16, 08:35
None of the walls are so thin that some light music will be a disturbance. There is no issue to bring such kit with you and your girl will probably be apprehensive at first when you dig into your bag, then thankful that you are pulling out a speaker rather than a strapon, giant dong, handcuffs or anal beads like some of the other customers might do.
I have noticed with some girls in the PSE places that they feel more comfortable doing weird pervy stuff than more 'normal' stuff like post-coital relaxation. And last time I was in such a place I could clearly hear the spanking the girl in the next room was getting and her moans, which was quite good as it added to the seedy atmosphere and made my girl raise her volume to try and drown it out. Some guy listening to drum 'n' bass in the next room would just be off-putting. Why not bring a girl into your hotel room for that sort of thing?

Asian Rain
12-09-16, 09:45
I have noticed with some girls in the PSE places that they feel more comfortable doing weird pervy stuff than more 'normal' stuff like post-coital relaxation. And last time I was in such a place I could clearly hear the spanking the girl in the next room was getting and her moans, which was quite good as it added to the seedy atmosphere and made my girl raise her volume to try and drown it out. Some guy listening to drum 'n' bass in the next room would just be off-putting. Why not bring a girl into your hotel room for that sort of thing?Last I will say about this. He DID say that he would moderate the volume of whatever music he was playing, so personal preferences aside, I think it is inconsequential. Think positive. The music might be used to have a good rhythm to spank his girl more vigorously, thereby generating lots of she-moans next door which make the seedy atmosphere that some mongers might actually consider a plus! Woo hoo!

If quiet is an important factor, I would suggest to ask for a corner room in an MP where available to minimize noise from adjacent rooms. When I go freelance, I use diPlace at Nana for my short times as the beds do not squeak, no windows for outside noise and solid walls where I have yet to hear sounds from next door. When I do short times near Soi Cowboy, the staff at Asoke Place hand me the same key every time to my preferred "quiet room" so I don't have to be in the rooms on the Cowboy side where I am exposed to the untalented band shreiking out 70's hits. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.

Goatscrot
12-09-16, 11:54
I don't really understand the need for NEW but I do understand the need for Change or variety. The question for me would be how big a harem would need to be to make me completely happy. I think a 5 or 6 girl harem could be fine if includes a western girl or two, Asian, and a black beauty, and at least 1 girl with large natural knockers. To be fair I would allow the girls to get variety of men also.For me the majority of the draw in Thailand was new. For years I rarely repeated gals, and if I did repeat it was only after several months had passed. I would do two to three new gals per week. It was all about the variety for me.

Syzygies
12-09-16, 13:04
For me the majority of the draw in Thailand was new. For years I rarely repeated gals, and if I did repeat it was only after several months had passed. I would do two to three new gals per week. It was all about the variety for me.I have become very reluctant to take NEW girls simply due to risk of the unknown possibly weak or soso session, so almost always prefer a regular girl if available. Of course being desperate for sex, or meeting an absolute stunner can change my mind. I am amazed that guys on a tight budget can afford too many mistake sessions. What percentage of NEW girls are worth repeating? Certainly less than 50% even for me who likes to repeat.

My variety is more about big tits or small tits, firm or saggy, and stunning looks verses amazing skills, I guess. I can get the practical variety from a limited set of girls.

Little benefit to get new girls with slightly different looks or slightly different personality, if the new one turns out to be dud or not sexually compatible in the room. Still I know guys have the primordial urge to impregnate as many girls as possible to continue their lineage. LOL.

I have to make myself try some new girls in order to increase the pool of girls available for repeat.

Last night was different, meeting an absolute stunner on the street near Soi 5, who was alas not available, quickly heading to some client, but I would have agreed to take her in 2 seconds flat, if she was available. I should have offered her a big tip for the LINE contact, in retrospect, but was too slow thinking, since she works in Rama 3 district. Prettiest girl that I saw in a long time. Literally I stopped dead in my tracks after going 5 metres past her, turned around and was forced to go to where she was. Every guy was wanting to do this girl, I reckon, unless they require absolutely white skin. I have no clue about her tits. Was the face that hooked me instantly and body looked pretty good. I would not care if she had zero tits, although unlikely. She looked exuberantly dazzling to me.

Goatscrot
12-10-16, 02:58
I have become very reluctant to take NEW girls simply due to risk of the unknown possibly weak or soso session, so almost always prefer a regular girl if available. Of course being desperate for sex, or meeting an absolute stunner can change my mind. I am amazed that guys on a tight budget can afford too many mistake sessions. What percentage of NEW girls are worth repeating? Certainly less than 50% even for me who likes to repeat.Oh, I am reluctant as well. I am reluctant to take gals who get good reports these days as I find most of the punters to be less than discerning. As I stated in my post; that was why I loved LOS. Cheap and plentiful. When you are spending 12.50 to 25 USD for a sesh; bad ones don't matter that much. Now they do. Hence why I don't partake very much. I just find most sessions a waste of money. As one dude on here so perfectly stated, "I'd rather save the money, spend it on a great meal, and head home for a wank. " At current prices my expectations for looks and performance are almost never met.

MichaelSamuel
12-10-16, 04:02
My last day for an oily visit and I was split between doing a repeat or opting for something new. I had thought I spied something interesting with tattoos as I left snow white after ninja visit #2 but I didn't want to go in not pick Ninja and walk out in case I didn't like the better view I had. So did the walk through of 24 then 24/1 and happened upon a girl with a different look I had noticed earlier in the week at Can Cam. Name was Youko from Ching Mai which explains some of the different look than you normally see at these places. Really nice tits, they were fake but one of the better jobs I had seen so much so had trouble determining they weren't real. She had a baby but nothing much showed and may have explained the nice knockers some. LFK, a little DFK, and average fair for one of these places, but she was sweet and accommodating and no complaints. Got her line for future contact and would consider repeating. Cam Can is a little more at either 2200 for 60 vs the more common 1900.

She actually looks younger in person than in the pics so rare time she is better in person than pics.

http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=92

MichaelSamuel
12-10-16, 04:40
I love the variety. The excitement of seeing a new girls face during the act and hearing her moans. Certainly makes the quiet ones less interesting to me. But I also agree better sex is almost always with regulars, same as when in a relationship and it improves as you learn what works for both of you. This is also some of the reason I am willing to try a new place and often find something I like instead of walking, a lot of the adventure for me is trying a new girl. Guess I am still feeding that primordial urge. I do like collecting pics of the girls in a dropbox archive, reviewing later makes for a nice way to pass a crappy afternoon.


I have become very reluctant to take NEW girls simply due to risk of the unknown possibly weak or soso session, so almost always prefer a regular girl if available. Of course being desperate for sex, or meeting an absolute stunner can change my mind. I am amazed that guys on a tight budget can afford too many mistake sessions. What percentage of NEW girls are worth repeating? Certainly less than 50% even for me who likes to repeat.

My variety is more about big tits or small tits, firm or saggy, and stunning looks verses amazing skills, I guess. I can get the practical variety from a limited set of girls.

Little benefit to get new girls with slightly different looks or slightly different personality, if the new one turns out to be dud or not sexually compatible in the room. Still I know guys have the primordial urge to impregnate as many girls as possible to continue their lineage. LOL.

I have to make myself try some new girls in order to increase the pool of girls available for repeat.

Last night was different, meeting an absolute stunner on the street near Soi 5, who was alas not available, quickly heading to some client, but I would have agreed to take her in 2 seconds flat, if she was available. I should have offered her a big tip for the LINE contact, in retrospect, but was too slow thinking, since she works in Rama 3 district. Prettiest girl that I saw in a long time. Literally I stopped dead in my tracks after going 5 metres past her, turned around and was forced to go to where she was. Every guy was wanting to do this girl, I reckon, unless they require absolutely white skin. I have no clue about her tits. Was the face that hooked me instantly and body looked pretty good. I would not care if she had zero tits, although unlikely. She looked exuberantly dazzling to me.

MichaelSamuel
12-10-16, 04:55
Personally I love being able to hear the other girls in a massage place or a macau sauna. I think it's a great turn on, is sort of like having porn on the tv like they do in macao, but not the screechy japanese stuff. It's great when you can hear a girl getting it next door and your girl looks at you and you share a smile on the things to come. In my first time at a BJ bar (kassalong) this definitely added to the seedy atmosphere hearing another girl polishing someones knob a few stalls over. Nice thing about just hearing and not seeing is could be a girl I would never take or watch in porn and doesn't make a difference, in my head she is super hot. Quiet girls quite frankly are the worst for me and a close tie to girls who overdue the fake moans without any acting skill.


I have noticed with some girls in the PSE places that they feel more comfortable doing weird pervy stuff than more 'normal' stuff like post-coital relaxation. And last time I was in such a place I could clearly hear the spanking the girl in the next room was getting and her moans, which was quite good as it added to the seedy atmosphere and made my girl raise her volume to try and drown it out. Some guy listening to drum 'n' bass in the next room would just be off-putting. Why not bring a girl into your hotel room for that sort of thing?

Syzygies
12-10-16, 06:09
Personally I love being able to hear the other girls in a massage place or a macau sauna. I think it's a great turn on, is sort of like having porn on the tv like they do in macao, but not the screechy japanese stuff. It's great when you can hear a girl getting it next door and your girl looks at you and you share a smile on the things to come. In my first time at a BJ bar (kassalong) this definitely added to the seedy atmosphere hearing another girl polishing someones knob a few stalls over. Nice thing about just hearing and not seeing is could be a girl I would never take or watch in porn and doesn't make a difference, in my head she is super hot. Quiet girls quite frankly are the worst for me and a close tie to girls who overdue the fake moans without any acting skill.I am not so sure about hearing girls moaning near by. I find myself often thinking that the girls' moans sound a bit fake, but not always. However it is definitely way better to hear the girls only, than to hear the guys grunting. LOL I am also not that keen on overhearing girls talking dirty to their customer. Only a few girls talk a bit dirty with me and it does nothing for me really. Talk is just talk and has a fake feel about it mostly. Action means more.

Tonight I have a date with gorgeous student Donut (ex Crazy H girl). She is definitely a screamer big time in a high pitched quite loud way. I sometimes wonder if she sounds fake to others, but that has always been her way when she gets turned on. I don't think she can do quiet sex at all. LOL Anyway her moaning style is quite unique. I am sure she did not copy it from someone else, unless she has been watching some Japanese porn. LOL Just kidding Japanese porn girls are required to whine like they are suffering. My girl does not sound like suffering, so different again. If she was with someone else in a room nearby, I would definitely recognise her from the way she squeals. LOL.

I also am supposed to meet another freelancer today. Will have to juggle the times, but with Thai girls, one never knows. One of the dates may fall through. Always keep backup plans. LOL.

Syzygies
12-10-16, 06:24
Cam Can is a little more at either 2200 for 60 vs the more common 1900.

She actually looks younger in person than in the pics so rare time she is better in person than pics.

http://cancam-massage.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=92This place is a bit pricey and the Japanese papasan is a bit clueless, however they have had some nicer looking girls over time, and good standard rooms. I have tried about 5 or 6 girls from there since about 3 years ago. Two were poor or clueless, and the other 4 good GFEs. No guarantees. Rooms were good for a nice Nuru body slide too.

I normally took slim girls, and I really miss one girl May even though she had sillies, which is unusual for me. Was a great session with a pretty girl. I often thought about trying Lek, but she is rather tiny in stature at 139 cm. I can't remember going lower than 150 before LOL. Maybe I ignore the height, since her face and shape look good. Would 69 even me possible? Good for short guys who want to feel tall.

I went to CanCam more frequently than other places on the Soi simply due to having some prettier girls.

Thulolado
12-10-16, 11:40
Once in a while would go to Analisa on soi 22, but since they've moved locations, decided to try Kiss Massage further down into the soi.

Was excited about what appeared to be a quality line-up, until I asked for full service and what was on offer was typical for the old Washington Square places. Some some real cuties around, but I think they only do the BJ or HJ happy ending massages. Massage menu is quite extensive, with all sorts of 'kinky' options, but it seems all style over substance. Only one full service option, and the price is a greatly inflated Bt. 2500!

Though a relatively new place, rooms already worn and with that funky small massage shop moldy odour to them.

Overall, not recommended. Much better options abound and for this shop's full service rates soapies have much better line-ups.

Thulolado
12-10-16, 11:43
I had to go pick up some IT gear at Fortune Town today, so decided to swing by Amsterdam. To my surprise, it is gone, torn down. Part of the older building still standing and tried to see if they just consolidated into one building, but it too seems to be prepped for a tear-down.

Any info on Amsterdam relocating, or are they out of business for good?

Syzygies
12-10-16, 12:10
I had to go pick up some IT gear at Fortune Town today, so decided to swing by Amsterdam. To my surprise, it is gone, torn down. Part of the older building still standing and tried to see if they just consolidated into one building, but it too seems to be prepped for a tear-down.

Any info on Amsterdam relocating, or are they out of business for good?Read a report dated 23 Oct. that Amsterdam has taken over the Emmanuelle location and is renovating it, so not sure if it is open or not. Emmanuelle was previously in serious decline with seemingly not enough business to sustain it. The real estate is valuable so not sure what will happen to old Amsterdam location.

Last time I was at Amsterdam I did see scaffolding but did not think anything much.

I guess if Amsterdam can retain its old clients and Emannuelle clients in the new combined location, it may be workable. Sale of Amsterdam could well cover costs to buy Emannuelle and renovate.

Even ilikemassage.com website has no up to date info, however you can pick up the phone number there. Not sure if can get anyone that speaks English, when ringing.

I also read that Colonze 2 became Ocean Entertainment and was enhanced. Might be worth a visit since I did not go there for years now.

Whoreman
12-10-16, 14:33
I decided to check her out this evening. She looks the same as in the Halloween photos on the Mango website but older. In particular the crow's feet which are just a little bit noticeable in those photos are much more noticeable in real life. She must be in her 30's. I find Emmy and View at Snow White, who are similar ages and also without babies, more attractive. So I decided to go there instead but none of the rooms were free. High season has definitely arrived in Sukhumvit so I think it's to time to check out the Ratchada soapies again.

Syzygies
12-10-16, 15:56
I decided to check her out this evening. She looks the same as in the Halloween photos on the Mango website but older. In particular the crow's feet which are just a little bit noticeable in those photos are much more noticeable in real life. She must be in her 30's. I find Emmy and View at Snow White, who are similar ages and also without babies, more attractive. So I decided to go there instead but none of the rooms were free. High season has definitely arrived in Sukhumvit so I think it's to time to check out the Ratchada soapies again.Ha ha. Prae claims lto be well under 30 and with her body I believed it. However she worked Annies quite a few years ago when she was just 18 or 19 she says.

Emmy has the nose job and broader face actually to my eye but definitely a better looker at SW than most.

Goatscrot
12-11-16, 01:02
Ha ha. Prae claims lto be well under 30 and with her body I believed it. However she worked Annies quite a few years ago when she was just 18 or 19 she says.

Emmy has the nose job and broader face actually to my eye but definitely a better looker at SW than most.I find Emmy to be far better looking than Prae.

Vodkin
12-11-16, 01:05
Once in a while would go to Analisa on soi 22, but since they've moved locations, decided to try Kiss Massage further down into the soi.

Was excited about what appeared to be a quality line-up, until I asked for full service and what was on offer was typical for the old Washington Square places. Some some real cuties around, but I think they only do the BJ or HJ happy ending massages. Massage menu is quite extensive, with all sorts of 'kinky' options, but it seems all style over substance. Only one full service option, and the price is a greatly inflated Bt. 2500!

Though a relatively new place, rooms already worn and with that funky small massage shop moldy odour to them.

Overall, not recommended. Much better options abound and for this shop's full service rates soapies have much better line-ups.I had a session at Honey Bee which is a sister shop of Kiss. That girl is listed for both places but she told me that she likes to be at Honey Bee better.

Franciscass
12-11-16, 08:05
Same girl. Even the same tattoo.Well she is still insisting the old Bonus has retired. I'm no psychologist but it's as if she wants to shed her old skin leave her past behind and become somebody else, a sort of split personality I guess you could say. She admits she looks a little like the old Bonus but says the old Bonus was skinnier and didn't have a tattoo. On this visit she was sad and melancholic and while professional enough to go through her routine the buzz was missing. She talked a lot and at one stage strangely started to reminisce about the "other Bonus" referring to her in the third person, how much money she used to make, how many bookings she had, how many customers wanted to marry her. This is one complicated lady. Thing is I must be a little odd also because I really enjoy her company.

Whoreman
12-11-16, 15:30
The other thing I forgot to report from Mango is that when they were waving the menu at me I was surprised to see a 500 baht surcharge for A+. There's something like a XXXX option which included nuru and the 500 baht A+ surcharge. Unless Snow White and Cherry also start charging extra for A+ it seems the A+ Mango girls are going to lose a lot of customers. Why pay 500 baht extra when a 5 minute walk takes you to more A+ options without a surcharge?

Wolvenvacht
12-11-16, 20:33
The other thing I forgot to report from Mango is that when they were waving the menu at me I was surprised to see a 500 baht surcharge for A+. There's something like a XXXX option which included nuru and the 500 baht A+ surcharge. Unless Snow White and Cherry also start charging extra for A+ it seems the A+ Mango girls are going to lose a lot of customers. Why pay 500 baht extra when a 5 minute walk takes you to more A+ options without a surcharge?Trick no. 1 in the "How to scam a tourist" book. Print it, preferable laminate it too, and your "tariff" suddenly becomes official and binding and no longer open for discussion or negotiation.

MichaelSamuel
12-11-16, 22:22
I second that for trick #1. Getting a taxi at MNL they also try this with a chart which is nuts. Taxi to Batangas (port for getting to Sebang for scuba) should run 2500-3000 Peso. Their "chart" says something like 6 k. This year when they yanked that out I just laughed and said not my first time, don't bother.

I think trick #2 is, "Oh that is closed today, or last boat / train / bus already leave" but can take you here.


Trick no. 1 in the "How to scam a tourist" book. Print it, preferable laminate it too, and your "tariff" suddenly becomes official and binding and no longer open for discussion or negotiation.

Goatscrot
12-12-16, 01:55
The other thing I forgot to report from Mango is that when they were waving the menu at me I was surprised to see a 500 baht surcharge for A+. There's something like a XXXX option which included nuru and the 500 baht A+ surcharge. Unless Snow White and Cherry also start charging extra for A+ it seems the A+ Mango girls are going to lose a lot of customers. Why pay 500 baht extra when a 5 minute walk takes you to more A+ options without a surcharge?Their gals are just not good looking enough to be charging more. My suspicion is that biz is off and they are trying to make up for it with the surcharge. It won't work. As a matter of fact, I went to Bamboo once right after it opened, was hit with the surcharge and never went back.

Roaming Viking
12-12-16, 05:59
Thanks for the report. I arrive in a few days for my usual winter lay over and was wondering if Ninja is back. Hope she is feeling better. I am always very gentle so I feel for her. Is TAR still there? She is always great. I didn't see her pic on the website. Thanks.

Thanks


Their gals are just not good looking enough to be charging more. My suspicion is that biz is off and they are trying to make up for it with the surcharge. It won't work. As a matter of fact, I went to Bamboo once right after it opened, was hit with the surcharge and never went back..

ParkVille
12-12-16, 11:05
I had a session at Honey Bee which is a sister shop of Kiss. That girl is listed for both places but she told me that she likes to be at Honey Bee better.Does anyone know where Rung from Kiss / honeybee went? Easily that places both top performer and looker by a longshot.

Member #4591
12-12-16, 11:18
Thanks for the report. I arrive in a few days for my usual winter lay over and was wondering if Ninja is back. Hope she is feeling better. I am always very gentle so I feel for her. Is TAR still there? She is always great. I didn't see her pic on the website. Thanks.

Thanks

.Ninja was never away. She was only allegedly injured from too much A+.

Whoreman
12-12-16, 12:07
Ninja was never away. She was only allegedly injured from too much A+.She's in Nakhon Phanom this week, should be back next week. We need more non-Ninja A+ reports. I read somewhere else that Sandy from Addict is A+ and that she also has no baby. She's the first girl on the Addict website and looks quite nice. Anyone have experience with her? No surcharge?

Member #4591
12-12-16, 13:52
She's in Nakhon Phanom this week, should be back next week. We need more non-Ninja A+ reports. I read somewhere else that Sandy from Addict is A+ and that she also has no baby. She's the first girl on the Addict website and looks quite nice. Anyone have experience with her? No surcharge?Sorry about that. What I meant to say is Ninja did not stop working because of an injury. She goes back home every month for about a week during that time of the month.

ParkVille
12-12-16, 14:22
She's in Nakhon Phanom this week, should be back next week. We need more non-Ninja A+ reports. I read somewhere else that Sandy from Addict is A+ and that she also has no baby. She's the first girl on the Addict website and looks quite nice. Anyone have experience with her? No surcharge?I saw her once. She works early in the morning and leaves after making enough money, and isn't on staff as much. Definitely need to call ahead to book her, preferably early like 11 AM-1 PM. I heard she works as a freelancer at levels sometimes.

She's a little more fat / thick / round than in the pictures you can see on the website, but still good looking, and overall the package looks nice. Not the japanese / frail / schoolgirl look. She's also quite a freak, high energy. She's probably the only reason to visit addict honestly, as the other girls are all kind of timid / lazy / basic, and cater to Japanese men mostly. Not much else to say other than to give Sandy a whirl, and that her pics are not as accurate (as is always the case, they're all photoshoped to look slimer).

Syzygies
12-12-16, 14:56
She's in Nakhon Phanom this week, should be back next week. We need more non-Ninja A+ reports. I read somewhere else that Sandy from Addict is A+ and that she also has no baby. She's the first girl on the Addict website and looks quite nice. Anyone have experience with her? No surcharge?Isn't Sandy a bit broad faced for your taste? potentially a bit broad for me in face, body, nose, and probable sillies (nose I can't be sure), based on the pics. I see Parville rates her as energetic though which is good, but I much prefer skinny girls unless the face is really something special. However it is no use to get a skinny lazy girl.

I previously enjoyed J J who was not that skinny and not at all lazy, and gave possibly the best BBBJ ever in 69 formation. Unfortunately she left. Looks were similar to pics of Bowie, maybe slightly thicker. Another girl First was average with some baby damage, and a third girl was very shy but a good fuck and really too much flab. Never had a really bad time there, but also not much reasons to repeat. Only J J of 3 or 4 girls was worth repeating. So I can understand wanting a highly recommended girl.

My taste would be for yummy Yumi (potentially stunning if could see her properly), cute Smile (reminds me of old TV star and singer Marsha), and A (Aey), based on web site pics only. My criteria for selection would be slim, no surgeries, DFK, GFE, and non dick-scared. Don't care if they are a mother, if damage is minimal, and don't care if A+ or not. For me looks comes first. Without satisfactory looks for face or body, I won't even bother to try. I sometimes tried highly recommended girls not quite my spec, but rarely ever wanted to repeat them. Great service is not quite enough for me, and clearly is not enough for *****man either since he excludes girls with babies.

Line up at Addict is large often 20+ girls but very few meet my specs and are also naturally pretty. Sometimes was hard to find a single girl in line up worth another glance. That is just my picky attitude.

http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136

I recall once admiring Poppy in the line up, I am pretty sure it was her, but she gave a poor vibe and did not want to look at me or answer what her name was. Not sure what was the problem. Maybe girls expect to be picked without speaking. I recall at Eden girls were pissed off by my attempt to talk to them in Thai, not every single girl, just a couple of interest maybe, to try help final decision by how they answered me, when still slightly undecided. Of course I am very used to talking to bargirls for a period before deciding if we might really be keen to do each other. In most MPs, girls react quite well when I make a joke or two to the line up, to lighten things up, starting with my Thai knick name which is already quite humorous (an advantage as girls never forget my funny name).

At Eden they are expecting customers to select very rapidly and get pissed off by having to do the line up. The bad vibe is counter productive and caused me not to choose a girl, causing wasting their time to be a self-fulfilling prophesy. This was long ago, but I never went back to Eden because the line up procedure had too much pressure to just pick two girls very rapidly.

Addict is busy so there may be a succession of customers wanting to look at the line up, allowing just a little more time to look at the girls properly and look at the expression when they whisper to their friends. Anyway choosing girls from a line up is quite difficult for me and I am not that fast. I have on occasion missed out because some other customer first selected the same girl I intended to select.
I was too slow to get No. 14 at Annies the first attempt and ended up with some crap girl No. 99. Shit happens.

Whoreman
12-12-16, 15:10
Isn't Sandy a bit broad faced for your taste? potentially a bit broad for me in face, body, nose, and probable sillies (nose I can't be sure), based on the pics.

My taste would be for yummy Yumi (potentially stunning if could see her properly), cute Smile (reminds me of old TV star and singer Marsha), and A (Aey). My criteria for selection would be slim, no surgeries, DFK, GFE, and non dick-scared. Don't care if they are a mother, if damage is minimal, and don't care if A+ or not.

I've taken a girl from Addict before and it was a very poor experience so I couldn't care less what the rest of them look like. The only reason I'm considering Sandy is because I hear she's a good A+ option with a doable face and body.

Whoreman
12-12-16, 15:14
I saw her once. She works early in the morning and leaves after making enough money, and isn't on staff as much. Definitely need to call ahead to book her, preferably early like 11 AM-1 PM. I heard she works as a freelancer at levels sometimes.

She's a little more fat / thick / round than in the pictures you can see on the website, but still good looking, and overall the package looks nice. Not the japanese / frail / schoolgirl look. She's also quite a freak, high energy. She's probably the only reason to visit addict honestly, as the other girls are all kind of timid / lazy / basic, and cater to Japanese men mostly. Not much else to say other than to give Sandy a whirl, and that her pics are not as accurate (as is always the case, they're all photoshoped to look slimer).I agree with what you say about Addict and it sounds like Sandy is worth booking. How old does she look in real life?

Syzygies
12-12-16, 15:37
She's probably the only reason to visit addict honestly, as the other girls are all kind of timid / lazy / basic, and cater to Japanese men mostly. Not much else to say other than to give Sandy a whirl, and that her pics are not as accurate (as is always the case, they're all photoshoped to look slimer).Have you tried a lot of Addict girls to form a reasonable sample to be able to say most are lazy or timid or basic? it is rather generalising, to say that, unless you really tried a good sample. I suppose 6 to 10 girls would be a good enough sample, which I did not yet achieve. I don't really try to rate shops but only girls until I get to significant sample of girls tried. It is a little hard to follow what you mean exactly by basic, like DFK in or out. Addict is not a porn star shop. I admit to having only tried 3 or at most 4. One of those quite timid, and a bit of flab. One was average "First" (perhaps that is basic. Don't recall if lazy now), and J J was a really good performer (but not there any longer).

So yeh, Addict is not setting my world on fire. Always prepared to try someone really stunning though, should they exist, just in case we hit it off. I am not that demanding except wanting fun and stamina. LOL Occasionally I am desperate and take anything acceptable looking. LOL That is how I ended trying Prae at Mango, but only got desperate once in the last two weeks.

If anyone tried Yumi, Kaimook (means Pearl), Smile, or A, I would like to hear if they were all natural, looked as good as the pics, were GFE, etc.

BangkokBull
12-12-16, 16:13
She's in Nakhon Phanom this week, should be back next week. We need more non-Ninja A+ reports. I read somewhere else that Sandy from Addict is A+ and that she also has no baby. She's the first girl on the Addict website and looks quite nice. Anyone have experience with her? No surcharge?I can't say for sure if Sandy or any other girls at Addict provide A+ services, but it's my impression neither Sandy nor most of the girls at Addict would provide A+. I have never heard about anybody getting A+ nor have I ever been offered it by any girls there. Addict is not really a PSE shop.

I suggest you call and check before going. If anybody does allow A+ I suspect they would ask for extra tip for it.

Paolo99
12-12-16, 17:40
If anyone tried Yumi, Kaimook (means Pearl), Smile, or A, I would like to hear if they were all natural, looked as good as the pics, were GFE, etc.I've met Smile once in the beginning of the year when she worked in another MP. She was new to the job and was all natural (even the nose). She was very pretty: her skin is little bit dark, tall and fit, no baby damage, small breasts but still nice, very good ass, fresh and tight pussy. DFK was very light, she likes the DATY and might be dick scared if you're bigger than average and I don't think she is the kind of girl that like to be fucked for a long time but that may depend on the customer. At that time she was partying very often in scratch dog disco (very Korean oriented disco).

I also had a very memorable 2 hour session with Poppy in the same period of time (in Addict). She looks very serious in the website pic but in real life looked better. Just a little bit more round but still very firm. She had a white skin and her body was good, no baby damage and a good ass. She was a lot of fun, the beginning of the session was enjoyable. During the BBBJ, she stopped when thought that I was about to cum and told me that she does not allowed the CIM. I told her that it was OK for me because I wanted to fuck her. The fucking part was good although she started complaining about the duration. Then we had an argument.

While we were chatting I told her that I was willing to fuck her for the second round. She said that it was forbidden by the shop, any girl who does that would get fired. Bla bla bla and if I would like to fuck her again I would have to pay another 1500 to the shop. She said the policy of the shop was one fuck service and for the second shot it would be HJ or BJ. I've been to Addict 2 times before meeting her and both times the girl did make me finish in her mouth for the first round and I had the fuck service for the second round. At that time I read a lot of report about Addict as being a 2 shot place and never heard about what she was saying so I just didn't believe her. She was really looking scared to lose her job and she texted one of her colleague while we were in the room. Clearly the mood was not the same than when we entered the room. After about 5 min one girl came at the door and told me some bullshit: "Euh sorry my friend she speak English no good she no understand you". Then I had to tell her "what are you talking about (in Thai), it's been half an hour that we're talking together in Thai". Even Poppy told me "why did she came and say that? That girl went down and we received another message that the Manager number one will come to talk to me. A few minute letter another girl came and told me the same story. At one point she said" how can the girl give two fuck when she gets only 1000 baht" (so it might be that Addict gives only 1000 to the girls and not the 1500 that every body thinks). I told her some bulshit that I received it by many girls from Addict in the past, and then she asked me the names because it's strictly forbidden (according to her). I told her that I forgot their names except for Sandy (even though I've never met her, but after reading the reports I knew she was the star in that shop, and I assumed that she probably gave 2 fuck to most guys, and I knew she would not get fired as she is one that attract a lot of customers). Still they were very surprised to hear that. Then I told her if I don't get 2 fucks I would never come back again, and she said, wait I 'm going to ask the big boss first. Few minutes later we received a text message to not give the 2 fucks and just give the HJ or BJ for the second round, so I was now sure that Poppy did not bulshit me. While we were waiting she tried to persuade me and said I could explode in her mouth so for the second round we went for a 69. It was a crazy one her trying to make finish as quick as possible, me telling her to not use her hands and her taking them off for a while and telling me "I forgot sorry."In the end I had a great CIM, but couldn't go back to that shop for the rest of my trip as I told them. If I did not have that argument I could have repeated her.

I also did the same error than you with number 99 in Anny and received a poor service. Was my first and only time in Anny's.

Whoreman
12-12-16, 18:06
I can't say for sure if Sandy or any other girls at Addict provide A+ services, but it's my impression neither Sandy nor most of the girls at Addict would provide A+. I have never heard about anybody getting A+ nor have I ever been offered it by any girls there. Addict is not really a PSE shop.

I suggest you call and check before going. If anybody does allow A+ I suspect they would ask for extra tip for it.Thanks but what you 'suspect' is not very helpful. I know very well what kind of place Addict is but it's irrelevant as I'm asking about one specific girl. There are a number of different reviews on a number of different websites from guys who have fucked Sandy in the arse so it's a given that she is A+. I'm just interested in hearing other BM's experiences of her. From what's been posted so far and also reading some old reviews the consensus seems to be she's a good (or weird) performer but getting a bit fat.

Christian G
12-12-16, 18:15
I can't say for sure if Sandy or any other girls at Addict provide A+ services, but it's my impression neither Sandy nor most of the girls at Addict would provide A+. I have never heard about anybody getting A+ nor have I ever been offered it by any girls there. Addict is not really a PSE shop.
I suggest you call and check before going. If anybody does allow A+ I suspect they would ask for extra tip for it.2 days ago I read a report on other board about Sandy and Addict Massage, the guy wrote Sandy is A+, he got 2 HR masssage (room with bathroom) for 2600 baht, he tipped the girl 200 baht.

ParkVille
12-12-16, 18:18
I agree with what you say about Addict and it sounds like Sandy is worth booking. How old does she look in real life?26 but that's really kind of subjective. I think she is a viable choice to try out at the minimum. My heart was literally racing when I saw her the first time but I just don't repeat because nothing special for me.

ParkVille
12-12-16, 18:24
Have you tried a lot of Addict girls to form a reasonable sample to be able to say most are lazy or timid or basic? it is rather generalising, to say that, unless you really tried a good sample. I suppose 6 to 10 girls would be a good enough sample, which I did not yet achieve. I don't really try to rate shops but only girls until I get to significant sample of girls tried. It is a little hard to follow what you mean exactly by basic, like DFK in or out. Addict is not a porn star shop. I admit to having only tried 3 or at most 4. One of those quite timid, and a bit of flab. One was average "First" (perhaps that is basic. Don't recall if lazy now), and J J was a really good performer (but not there any longer).

So yeh, Addict is not setting my world on fire. Always prepared to try someone really stunning though, should they exist, just in case we hit it off. I am not that demanding except wanting fun and stamina. LOL Occasionally I am desperate and take anything acceptable looking. LOL That is how I ended trying Prae at Mango, but only got desperate once in the last two weeks.

If anyone tried Yumi, Kaimook (means Pearl), Smile, or A, I would like to hear if they were all natural, looked as good as the pics, were GFE, etc.I've seen let's see. 1,2,3,4 girls there, not including Sandy. None of them were hot, they all looked much more. Basic / below average after their uniform came off. Only 2/4 would even do kissing. The 2 that did were definitely into it but. They were not exactly lookers. The 2 who weren't were not good looking either. What gets me about the place is the uniforms, they make it so hard to tell what the girl looks like underneath, for me anyway.

So.

2/4 = lazy or just overall below average experience. A minor waste of money. The other 2/4 were just really non-memorable and below average (for me) because they looked so plain / bland naked. The uniforms make them look more sexy. Like some kind of sexy flight attendant theme. But naked, they're not even pretty really.

Also yeah Sandy has fake tits in case anyone is curious. They are ok, not bad, not too big, set well, etc. Again, she wasn't included in my 4 that I reviewed above.


I'm a little picky in looks. Not excessively but I like the hot babe look, or something like that. So I find just walking to the other shops until I find some kind of sexual/energetic/chemistry like vibe is the absolute best thing to do there. Just check out all the shops until you find special one, don't just head to the first one because you saw people reporting on it here (advice to just anyone reading/stumbling into here).

Syzygies
12-12-16, 19:27
I've seen let's see. 1,2,3,4 girls there, not including Sandy. None of them were hot, they all looked much more. Basic / below average after their uniform came off. Only 2/4 would even do kissing. The 2 that did were definitely into it but. They were not exactly lookers. The 2 who weren't were not good looking either. What gets me about the place is the uniforms, they make it so hard to tell what the girl looks like underneath, for me anyway.So.

2/4 = lazy or just overall below average experience. A minor waste of money. The other 2/4 were just really non-memorable and below average (for me) because they looked so plain / bland naked. The uniforms make them look more sexy. Like some kind of sexy flight attendant theme. But naked, they're not even pretty really.

Also yeah Sandy has fake tits in case anyone is curious. They are ok, not bad, not too big, set well, etc. Again, she wasn't included in my 4 that I reviewed above.

I'm a little picky in looks. Not excessively but I like the hot babe look, or something like that. So I find just walking to the other shops until I find some kind of sexual/energetic/chemistry like vibe is the absolute best thing to do there. Just check out all the shops until you find special one, don't just head to the first one because you saw people reporting on it here (advice to just anyone reading/stumbling into here).Thanks for the detail. I think I am agreeing on almost everything. The uniforms are a very fancy distraction and do hide very average bodies quite well, so one has to be very critical with the eye. Push up bras can hide very saggy tits or bad silicones. I try to compensate by looking for skinny girls natural, but saggy tits are very hard to detect.

Like you I just go from shop to shop till find something extra hot for the body, if possible, and reasonable for the face. Stunning face hardly exists. Have to have freakish luck to get a stunning face. I have certainly entered Addict a few times without choosing someone.

From pics, I could determine that Sandy was not likely to be that slim and likely had fake tits. For nose job, I thought was possible but too hard to tell for sure with small pics. Some others looked more my type in the pics, but real body and performance could be another thing.

I prefer to shop in a bar where girls are totally naked or very close to it, so opportunity to hide figure defects is almost eliminated. They cannot get away with bad stretch marks or badly saggy tits or ass, for example. I even get to see if girls have excessively messy pussy lips, quite often, and extent of piercings and tats. Get to check if the girl smokes, is she going to kiss nicely, etc. Even trying to subtly find out if she likes big, small, or medium dick, recently, and can take time to assess chemistry. I am attracted to very sleek slim girls with tight high ass, good waist to thigh ratio (not straight body), and tits can be A to the, doesn't matter as long as beautiful shape not too saggy and no bad silicone jobs. Only have taken one or two nose job girls in last 2 years, so prefer to avoid them unless good jobs. Costs me more but I never get any bad figures this way. Taking a freelancer on the street or in Thermae is a lot more risky as figure defects can be hidden. One time got a free lancer with tummy like a war zone and very shrunken tits to go with it. Wasn't very exciting for a guy that relies on beauty to turn him on. I can accept some defects, but every girl needs to have some beautiful aspects to concentrate on, not disaster everywhere. Severely defective nose seems to be beyond my levels of acceptance because its right in front of my face.

Recently saw a new girl in Crazy House with no number. All natural slim, probably 18 or 19 YO. Could not see a body defect of any type, barring tits quite small, and a very attractive face, beautiful natural nose (LOL). I was already fucked for the day otherwise might have tried. Even her pussy on full display was beautiful. Not absolutely clean shaved but showing a little stubble like a few days growth. She explained she worked only very part time, and hence had no salary and had not yet even acquired a number, possibly another student. She was quite shy but I could see she would get BFed quickly enough just due to the high quality of her looks. Very few other girls had both face and body as good. "Jun" (rhymes with fun) No. 93 comes close but face not quite as good for smooth colouring and is clearly older.

I think we can accept that Addict may have been overly hyped in terms of the line up quality when it first came on the scene, and finding girls worth repeating has not been a great success to failure ratio. For guys loving the nose jobs and the tit jobs, I can see they would make a completely different assessment. Same as how some guys think Baccara and Rainbow5 are great, and I think they are terrible.

For sure performance of girls is going to be more reliable in a Snow White or a Tulip, and compromise on the looks.

I will try some more Addict girls, if any of my potential stunners, turns out to be stunning in real life. Just I am not in a big hurry yet. I do have a severe shortage of really cute MP regulars at the moment. Not sure that anyone is finding too many of them, or if so keeping it a secret. I would like girls that I would score at least 8 for both face and body, and GFE service to be automatic repeaters. Easy to say, hard to find, unless you are Dr. BJ and have heaps of 9s and 10s around (LOL).

Mostly happy with my regular girls. A couple or 3 of my regulars (bar girls) are not answering messages (or even reading the messages). I suspect they went up country and have not paid for an internet connection for their phone at the moment. They will probably message me soon when they get back to BKK, when I have left Thailand. LOL Best to have a significant list of regulars to minimise days when none of them are answering. LOL Maybe a couple of them picked up boyfriends and went off the grid.

Syzygies
12-12-16, 19:52
I've met Smile once in the beginning of the year when she worked in another MP. She was new to the job and was all natural (even the nose). She was very pretty: her skin is little bit dark, tall and fit, no baby damage, small breasts but still nice, very good ass, fresh and tight pussy. DFK was very light, she likes the DATY and might be dick scared if you're bigger than average and I don't think she is the kind of girl that like to be fucked for a long time but that may depend on the customer. At that time she was partying very often in scratch dog disco (very Korean oriented disco).

I also did the same error than you with number 99 in Anny and received a poor service. Was my first and only time in Anny's.Thanks I might give Smile a try. She does look quite pretty to me. Maybe she can take a big gentle Farang too, but thanks for the tip she likes Korean. LOL Poppy does not really interest me further, but interesting that getting the wrong vibe could be a good indicator.

I knew a CH girl call Naam who preferred Korean, but I fucked her anyway. Just had to accept was not the full deal GFE.

As for 99 at Annie, look she was the worst girl I ever had there by a very long margin. All other girls tried were okay Through to excellent. Never complained about any other girl. So don't use No. 99 as a fair indicator. Probably should be fired if she is consistently bad, but maybe some guys can get off with almost any girl. I repeated No. 24 plenty of times, very sexy but is no longer there. I repeated No. 14 a few times too, but have not been in recently. No. 14 was the girl I intended to try the day I tried 99. So was incredibly bad luck with timing by just a few seconds, that I was not with No. 14. I probably would have taken another girl immediately after 99, but I think it was a bit late in the evening, too close to closing time.

MichaelSamuel
12-13-16, 02:25
1.) This is indirectly a massage parlor question. For what you term as regulars how often are you seeing them? Once a year, once a month? And then the other half of that how often are you communicating with them? Once a month? More / less often?

For myself I have previously only kept gogo girls in contact as regulars and I see them usually 3 times a year and usually exchange messages once every 2-3 weeks just with simple pleasantries, and of course way more often leading up to a trip. Always trying to improve my experiences and I am interested to know what is working for others in case I can make improvements to my process.

2.) A few posts mentioned other review sites, for the massage girls in particular. I didn't know anything else was out there other than WSG but it doesn't seem to get any thailand traffic anymore. I have heard rumors about thai sites or PRC sites for Macao saunas, but I have never been able to located any with english searches and translation. Mind sharing some of these sites? I would be interested to read the reports.

Syzygies
12-13-16, 03:56
1.) This is indirectly a massage parlor question. For what you term as regulars how often are you seeing them? Once a year, once a month? And then the other half of that how often are you communicating with them? Once a month? More / less often?

For myself I have previously only kept gogo girls in contact as regulars and I see them usually 3 times a year and usually exchange messages once every 2-3 weeks just with simple pleasantries, and of course way more often leading up to a trip. Always trying to improve my experiences and I am interested to know what is working for others in case I can make improvements to my process.

2.) A few posts mentioned other review sites, for the massage girls in particular. I didn't know anything else was out there other than WSG but it doesn't seem to get any thailand traffic anymore. I have heard rumors about thai sites or PRC sites for Macao saunas, but I have never been able to located any with english searches and translation. Mind sharing some of these sites? I would be interested to read the reports.When I looked at Wsg, was a really shit forum. Nothing but one line smart ass tweets. No reports of any great detail or substance. They were very upset when I suggested the posters needed to up their game. I also tried Thai sites but found they were very indirect giving little useful information. More like posts of their cries of glee when meeting girls of choice.

Other forums did not really try. Nothing much is any good really, excepting maybe forums in your own language if not English.

As for girl contacts. I am in Thailand about 30% of the year so able to meet girls resonably regularly. It is wise to keep contacts as girls move shops a lot, but only if you know the girl quite well, not on first meeting. Don't want sick buffalo stories LOL.

I don't chat to them all the time more like when I want to see them. Sometimes they are not contactable for a period. Some disappear altogether. Usually means they quit work. If girl has bad english then messages can be misunderstood easily. Girl wrote "i come now" which really meant she had arrived already. LOL Anything complex they just wont understand. I am aided by being able to read Thai script as well.

I may do LINE video call with girl that is really close.

I see my regulars as often as their performance warrants and do new girls as a last resort usually. I tend to see my massage regulars much less now as have other alternatives. I have contact info for only one MP girl that still works.

It is not clear why you ask. Each guy does things differently. It is harder to meet bargirls that attend irregularly so contact info becomes more important. For MPs can ring the shop to check if girl is working. Although some MPs have very bad English speakers answering the phone or clueless types. Contact info is obviously more important for greelancers too.

I don't do the WeChat thing about girls in the vicinity.

Member #4698
12-13-16, 04:45
1.) This is indirectly a massage parlor question. For what you term as regulars how often are you seeing them? Once a year, once a month? And then the other half of that how often are you communicating with them? Once a month? More / less often?

For myself I have previously only kept gogo girls in contact as regulars and I see them usually 3 times a year and usually exchange messages once every 2-3 weeks just with simple pleasantries, and of course way more often leading up to a trip. Always trying to improve my experiences and I am interested to know what is working for others in case I can make improvements to my process.At the present time I have 3 active regulars in BKK, 2 active regulars in MNL, and 1 active regular in Jakarta. It varies how often I see them, but I usually like to see each one on average every 5 days or so for the duration of one of my visits which these days is averaging 4 or 5 weeks (28 to 35 days) in BKK, 2 weeks in MNL and 2 weeks in Jakarta. The exception was on my last visit to Manila where I spent almost every night, but one, with my two girls. What can I say? I am in love. 555.

Anyway they are all bar girls more or less and I believe that their field of endeavor is a contributing factor as to why we are able to maintain ongoing, intra trip, relationships with each other. I have not had the same degree of success with massage girls. Usually what happens with massage girls is that the communication link dies before I have a chance to see them again. I speculate that their work schedule and possibly how they view themselves and their customers is the reason. In any case I have not had very many intra trip ongoing relationships with massage girls. I still chat with an Indonesian girl I met in Macau at FN a few years back. She likes to keep me informed of her globetrotting ways, So far her favorite places were Paris and Berlin. But sadly I have lost track of many really wonderful Macau and BKK beauties. There is, however, one BKK massage girl (possibly BKK regular #4) whom I am still in communication with from my last trip. I will not mention her name here, but Syzygies knows her. LOL. I met this girl and did her 3 times on my last visit. The 3rd time I took her on an out call and that session most resembled one of my typical Go Go girl sessions, albeit briefer and with no Tequila, but it kind of resembled a date, kind of. She is not really as cute, young or sexy as my Go Go girls, but she has a certain way about her in bed that makes me feel real good, so I am sure I will see her again when I return to BKK. Oh Buddha, I have to lug another present halfway around the world.

I communicate with my regulars once or twice a week. Line with BKK and Jakarta. Viber with Manila. We usually chat around 7am my time as I am having coffee in the morning and they are heading to work or around 6 pm my time when they are home from work and getting ready for sleep. The conversations roughly cover the same riff, but with various improvs depending on what's happening and how they feel. My Pinays obviously communicate best, but the Jakarta girl is pretty good with English too. Sadly my BKK girls lag behind their foreign sisters with their English skills. But its all good. These girls are the creme de la creme of my previous trips. My favorite girls. I miss them and it is nice to stay in touch and to plan our next liaisons.

I should add that over the years there is an attrition rate with my regular girls. They tend to leave the business, or leave town, find a BF or sponsor, loose their phones, or who knows what, so girls do fall by the wayside and I never hear from them again, but then once in awhile a lost girl comes back from the missing or I bump into her again by chance. So in addition to the pleasure of doing new girls, it is important to keep my list of special girls up to date and if possible to continue to make improvements going forward.

Syzygies
12-13-16, 05:59
At the present time I have 3 active regulars in BKK, 2 active regulars in MNL, and 1 active regular in Jakarta. It varies how often I see them, but I usually like to see each one on average every 5 days or so for the duration of one of my visits which these days is averaging 4 or 5 weeks (28 to 35 days) in BKK, 2 weeks in MNL and 2 weeks in Jakarta. The exception was on my last visit to Manila where I spent almost every night, but one, with my two girls. What can I say? I am in love. 555.
Yes most of my contacts are bar girls or girls that quit full time hooking. Most of mine are concentrated to Thailand. Therefore have more contacts. About 10 girls that are fucked sometimes, but only two or 3 of the 10 are really regular. I do a regular girl when I am available (not with GF or OS) maybe 4 to 5 days or nights of a week at present. Not unusual to spend several days in a row with same girl. She is just that good that other girls will not beat the experience with her. Best I had for years. I know other guys need a lot more variety. How many flavours of heaven are there? LOL For me the variety occurs more by who is available when.

A couple of my bar girl contacts have gone off the grid permanently and a couple more temporarily. So it is wise to have plenty on the list. There are plenty of girls that I know but have not gone the extra step to get a contact. That means it is just not that important to be able to contact them again.

Natty and I will not be typical because we are more bargirl keen than most punters. Others are looking for cheap or value for money, where we are more looks and fun conscious.

I was going to comment on BBFS with regulars, but decided against it fearing another debate getting started.

Almost all of my regulars like to get their rocks off as well as get paid, once or twice and occasionally more than 2. Most common ways they can cum are DATY, Cowgirl, Doggy/prone, and mish is much more rarely giving a cum. Oom (91) from CH is not very sensitive so it is quite difficult to get her there (cums only sometimes - usually from very determined DATY), and she probably needs it stronger than I give, but she is still enthusiastic fuck, and others are so sensitive that they are not much challenge at all. Few girls really don't want to enjoy at all, and they are usually not going to be regulars for me. As I would sense the disinterest and therefore be less excited myself.

"Thai working girls never enjoy their work - It's just work" is one of the biggest myths going around. LOL Maybe a hardened PSE girl fucking 10 guys a day is not going to cum much, but bargirls get much less customers, and all girls are permitted to be horny sometimes. Many Thai girls are so sensitive that they cannot easily avoid being stimulated by DATY, just like we can't ignore the feeling of a great blow job. Some girls cum when they initially had no intention to. Just accidentally got stimulated. My GF cannot go DATY for more than 3 minutes without exploding, she is just that sensitive. Poor old me usually takes over 30 minutes to pop.

LoveHole69
12-13-16, 10:18
Nonnyy having a Korean BF what's wrong with these Korean? To this poster are you serious what about the western guys who have been doing this for years such as the sponsor of Nadia cherry boss who dates Africans while her white mushy sponsor provides cash, as I have previously posted before superstar lady's like dao of tulip prefer Asians maybe this Korean dude will get Nonnys 3 holes daily since I'm in Nakhon phanom province now I wouldn't mind trying that also LOL, about 5 weeks ago when I was in Bangkok I checked out the PSE shops and especially tulip was really poor quality in the line up so me and a huge 195 cm Swedish guy I had met online for double teaming hookers took a small cute African lady we met on Soi 4 I don't usually bother with Africans not my preference but she was short and looked tight luckily my skill for judging proved correct again as she turned out to have a nice tight long tube shaped pussy just how I like them. She was rather boring tho and didn't like me to spit on her pussy to get her wet and I almost did not get hard due to the attitude but once I started fucking her she said she liked my long cock and then the Swedish guy who was 195 cm tall was not to her liking with his around 6 inch cock which she commented was small. Unfortunately then the mood was spoiled. The only best part about my session after I did her deep was she sprayed out sperm 3 times and that was a first for me, my Thai GF has came twenty times plus before but she just gushes out this African lady actually sprayed all over me.

So for any members into that type of thing around the family mart at Soi 4 look out for a petite African with braids.

LoveHole69
12-13-16, 11:09
Following on from my last report the next night I headed out again with the Swedish dude, again Tulip lineup was awful quality maybe it was to late I'd appreciate any info on who the decent body's and 3 hole performers are? And also they did not seem willing to do a 3 sum with us so we headed to mango where I saw quite a few doable ones with better body's but the reception said they did not do MMF so this was again another let down in BKK these days, last port of call was Bongkot the reception was helpful and asked which lady's did MMF, a few were willing but my buddy had lost interest I think all the walking had drained his stamina. So I went and got a big bottle of as ahi drank it and went back to Bongkot alone I selected a tall and big chocolate skinned lady since this was a few weeks back unfortunately I have forgotten her name which is something I hate to do as I like to read reports with the lady's names being given but anyone who has tried her will know who it is.

Her name was something with an and I think and she was fairly tall I was expecting her to be chubby which is fine, back years ago in tulip I had chubby lady like Cee who were cute and I spent an enjoyable hour switching between her ass and pussy but this Bongkot lady had a really massive flabby gut they shouldn't be letting lady's like that work, I should of called of the session but did not want to hurt her feelings so I proceeded and things got worse her pussy was rather loose and the stomach hanging on it was off putting so I changed to her ass and she seemed to have trouble taking my 9 inches of Italian meat all the way and after 5 minutes of opening her up deeper I started to smell a bad smell and my cock began turning brown.

Let's just say I headed to the shower quickly and it was a wasted session.

It's like I think Goatscrot said with the prices now a bad session matters more than it used to, although I'm older than when I was a youngster visiting tulip and so might be more picky I remember being surprised in tulip for somewhere offering so much the lady's looked good as I was expecting really ugly ones. A stomach hanging down over a lady's pussy to me is just getting to the level of where I don't need a Session like that even if it was free.

When I have my next trip to BKK I'm going to need advice from regulars to the PSE shops of who can take a good 3 hole pounding and has a tight body.

Whoreman
12-13-16, 13:22
Natty and I will not be typical because we are more bargirl keen than most punters. Others are looking for cheap or value for money, where we are more looks and fun conscious.
What a load of rubbish! What makes you think you know what other people are looking for? You sound like you think you're superior because you pick up bar girls. They're hardly the creme de la creme of the Thai sex industry.

Whoreman
12-13-16, 13:31
26 but that's really kind of subjective. I think she is a viable choice to try out at the minimum. My heart was literally racing when I saw her the first time but I just don't repeat because nothing special for me.


2 days ago I read a report on other board about Sandy and Addict Massage, the guy wrote Sandy is A+, he got 2 HR masssage (room with bathroom) for 2600 baht, he tipped the girl 200 baht.She's definitely on my 'to do' list then. I'll try and get to Addict near opening time and see if she's available. I don't like the idea of booking a girl without seeing her but I'll do it if she's impossible to get otherwise. I will of course post a report of the experience. The only problem is the last time I went to see a '26 year old' was Prae from Mango and she's definitely much older. I hope Sandy is younger looking than her.

Whoreman
12-13-16, 13:39
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2.) A few posts mentioned other review sites, for the massage girls in particular. I didn't know anything else was out there other than WSG but it doesn't seem to get any thailand traffic anymore. I have heard rumors about thai sites or PRC sites for Macao saunas, but I have never been able to located any with english searches and translation. Mind sharing some of these sites? I would be interested to read the reports.I think the mods wouldn't be happy with a discussion of other forums on this forum, understandably as it's quite rude in a way. I wouldn't worry though as this is the best one. Most of the other forums are just money-making schemes that rehash stuff that was debated here weeks, months or years earlier. I'm surprised Sandy wasn't mentioned here as being A+ though. Is that because she'd didn't offer it to anyone or is everyone too coy to reveal it?

Daddy San
12-13-16, 19:00
Hi guys,

In March / April, there was this post and some foolow-ups about a Sauna (Silom Sauna?) on Soi22.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1858802&viewfull=1#post1858802.

I wonder if anyone has been there since and would report.

Thanks in advance.

DS.

Crocodilexp
12-14-16, 02:31
In March / April, there was this post and some foolow-ups about a Sauna (Silom Sauna?) on Soi22.

I wonder if anyone has been there since and would report.
There are two branches of Silom Sauna, one deep down Soi 22, one near the eastern end of Soi Si Bamphen.

It's a decent low-end sauna, 200 baht for entry. It has a normal sauna, a steam room, hot / freezing dipping pools, normal swimming pool (too shallow), plus a few gym machines. They provide a free locker, towels and swimming trunks. Not gay (always a concern with saunas), although all clients are male. Mixed bunch, a few Thais, some Koreans, some Indians, some Russians, an occasional Westerner too.

There are some rather old and unappealing "massage" girls on the premises (in the entrance area outside of the sauna itself, unfortunately), and they offer sexual services for 1000 baht or so, but Silom Sauna is not really a sex destination. It's a place for relaxation, bit low-end and run-down, but pleasant enough and good value. Haven't tried the on-site providers, just used it to relax after a Bongkot or Snow White session.

Syzygies
12-14-16, 05:37
What a load of rubbish! What makes you think you know what other people are looking for? You sound like you think you're superior because you pick up bar girls. They're hardly the creme de la creme of the Thai sex industry.Actually what you just wrote is the rubbish.

It is not rubbish to point out that that me and some other guys like to take bargirls frequently and many guys clearly write here that they don't like bars and bargirls. I point out my personal biases. It is not trying to be superior. It is just my major mode of operation is not the same as others. It is also well known here that Natty Bumpo likes bar girls and posts about them frequently. Natty and I even like some of the same girls so have a similar taste.

Clearly yourself and many others look for particular services like A+ and I don't. I put looks before service. Others put service before looks. Just personal biases. I do not try to say what other people should be looking for, unless what they want from Bangkok is very unrealistic. It's up to there own preference.

Syzygies
12-14-16, 05:42
What a load of rubbish! What makes you think you know what other people are looking for? You sound like you think you're superior because you pick up bar girls. They're hardly the creme de la creme of the Thai sex industry.Actually what you just wrote is the rubbish.

It is not rubbish to point out that that me and some other guys like to take bargirls frequently and many guys clearly write here that they don't like bars and bargirls. I point out my personal biases. It is not trying to be superior. It is just my major mode of operation is not the same as others. It is also well known here that Natty Bumpo likes bar girls, (and MP girls, and discos and probably everything), and posts about them frequently. Natty and I even like some of the same girls so have a similar taste at times. I knew some of his favourite girls at certain bars and MPs that I also tried out.

Clearly yourself and many others look for particular services like A+ and I don't. I put looks before service. Others put service before looks. Just personal biases. I do not try to say what other people should be looking for, unless what they want from Bangkok is very unrealistic. It's up to there own preference.

I don't see that many posters here, game to write about how much they prefer bargirls over MP girls, most of the time. I am not too shy to say so, because I don't need PSE girls.

Whoreman
12-14-16, 06:54
Actually what you just wrote is the rubbish.

It is not rubbish to point out that that me and some other guys like to take bargirls frequently and many guys clearly write here that they don't like bars and bargirls. I point out my personal biases. It is not trying to be superior. It is just my major mode of operation is not the same as others. It is also well known here that Natty Bumpo likes bar girls, (and MP girls, and discos and probably everything), and posts about them frequently. Natty and I even like some of the same girls so have a similar taste at times. I knew some of his favourite girls at certain bars and MPs that I also tried out.

Clearly yourself and many others look for particular services like A+ and I don't. I put looks before service. Others put service before looks. Just personal biases. I do not try to say what other people should be looking for, unless what they want from Bangkok is very unrealistic. It's up to there own preference.

I don't see that many posters here, game to write about how much they prefer bargirls over MP girls, most of the time. I am not too shy to say so, because I don't need PSE girls.You post yet more drivel. Your original post stated 'Others are looking for cheap' clearly implying you're some kind of a high roller and people who prefer MPs are cheapskates, which is nonsense.

This is a thread specifically about massage parlors so the fact that you prefer bargirls is of absolutely no relevance.

Syzygies
12-14-16, 06:55
? You sound like you think you're superior because you pick up bar girls. No, I am inferior, because I waste more money on bargirls, for drinks and BF, and ST Hotel. Others are getting it much more economically and possibly better value for money. I have cut back a lot on bargirls and only took two in the last 3 weeks. I took a freelancer who was a lot cheaper several times, but had to compromise on the face not being so pretty as I would prefer.

There is no skill attached to BFing a bargirl. Selecting one that will be really good is the only challenge, as always, unless a shop somehow guarantees every girl to be superb.

Goatscrot
12-14-16, 09:03
Here is a Field Report on a girl I did yesterday afternoon.

I just popped in to check if there were any new girls, and there she was smiling in full glory. Those looks in her eyes didn't spare me. What sealed the deal was "You can do whatever you want with me kha".

She made it clear that she was up for Anal as well.

Once inside the room, my dick was in her mouth in less than 3 minutes in the shower. She continued in bed, and what lovely BBBJ (reminded me of a girl named Angie from Cherry massage, who used to suck like a a vaccuum cleaner).

Sloppy and thorough licking of the pole, the balls and nice rimming after a long time. She was horny, I could feel her wet, noticed when I fingered her. No lube needed absolutely. Her shapely ass was available and dangling. She is a big tease and knows how to get your manhood's attention. Her lusty eyes made me go even more and I bust my nuts after going good for full 15 minutes in various positions.

In 2 hours we fucked 3 times (I had fucked 3 times in along long time). She was tight in the Pu# department And Yes I did the ass too.

WIR. Hell Yes.

Body type. Not very thin, neither fat. - Slight baby damage.

Skin Type. Isaan Brownie (with makeup of course she looks fair).Well, I would not describe Guitar's baby damage as "slight. " Quite the contrary. On a scale of 1-10 with one being not noticeable and 10 being a M-1 tank ran over her belly and imprinted a map of Europe; I would rate her's as an 8. 5. Not the worst I have seen but close and for sure a deal killer for me. I was shocked when she disrobed after reading the above comment. June former SW and Bongkot had slight damage. What do I consider slight? A small sag in the breast and a belly that is not so tight with maybe a stretch mark or two.

Taken upon the recommendations from this board I found her to be enthusiastic but her skill set to be average. For me not even in the same postal code as Golf or Opor at Tulip who currrently are the gold standard when it comes to performance for me.

Member #4698
12-14-16, 17:30
What makes you think you know what other people are looking for? You sound like you think you're superior because you pick up bar girls. They're hardly the creme de la creme of the Thai sex industry.


Your original post stated 'Others are looking for cheap' clearly implying you're some kind of a high roller and people who prefer MPs are cheapskates, which is nonsense.

This is a thread specifically about massage parlors so the fact that you prefer bargirls is of absolutely no relevance.*man, I guess I started this little fracas with my use of the term "Creme de la creme". All I meant by it was that I tend to repeat with the 4 or 5 girls I like best out of the 25 to 35 new girls I sample during one of my 9 to 10 week swings through SE Asia, so they are my defacto creme de la creme girls. I do like some massage girls and Macau Sauna girls a lot, but the internet connection with massage girls seems more tenuous than with bar girls for various reasons so I seldom have the opportunity to see them again (the massage & sauna girls) on follow up trips even though I might really want to.

On the supply side; gems, of course, can be found everywhere including Go Go's, bars, massage parlors, G-clubs, nightclubs, discos, malls, and on the street. On the demand side; everyone's tastes and preferences are different as are everyone's spending habits, budgetary constraints, length of time in country, and Thai language limitations. It all comes down to this: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

For example, I once did this Annies girl, Annies not being one of my favorite shops, and the girl was not really my spec either although she was the best looking girl in the fishbowl at the time. She was, however, very sweet and she provided passionate, pleasing, and well above average service to me in the loom. But she was not my particular type physically or facially so she was a one timer as far as I was concerned. To my point; a few months later I received a PM from a friend, a respected fellow huntsman and board member and a really nice guy, who raved about the same girl, loved her look including her new silicones that thankfully I did not have the pleasure of, 555. In fact, he was so taken with this girl that he ended his Asian trip with a 3 night stand with her. He later posted pictures of her in his trip report and said she was one of his favorite girls of his entire 45 day trip. So clearly, this girl was a creme de la creme girl for him and I can understand why; they clicked. She was very passionate and loving towards him in bed, she really enjoyed sex, and to him, she looked really, really good. End of story. He was happy so I was happy he was happy. Still, I smile in amazement, because this girl, as nice as she is, was definitely not my type.

So where can we find the "REAL" creme de la creme of BKK girls. Sadly, I do not believe they are available to farang punters like ourselves cruising up and down Sukhumvit. I am talking about the thousands of would be aspiring young Thai TV & movie actresses as well as the wannabe legitimate advertising models. These girls are out there alright in large numbers and I am sure they are making themselves available to affluent Thai businessmen and otherwise well connected westerners. I would love to find the key to this city of hot Thai demi-monde girls. I imagine these girls do not come cheap as in if you have to ask how much a girl like this will cost, you can't afford her. Oh, well. That's life. I will keep looking.

Goatscrot
12-14-16, 18:01
*man, I guess I started this little fracas with my use of the term "Creme de la creme". All I meant by it was that I tend to repeat with the 4 or 5 girls I like best out of the 25 to 35 new girls I sample during one of my 9 to 10 week swings through SE Asia, so they are my defacto creme de la creme girls. I do like some massage girls and Macau Sauna girls a lot, but the internet connection with massage girls seems more tenuous than with bar girls for various reasons so I seldom have the opportunity to see them again (the massage & sauna girls) on follow up trips even though I might really want to.

On the supply side; gems, of course, can be found everywhere including Go Go's, bars, massage parlors, G-clubs, nightclubs, discos, malls, and on the street. On the demand side; everyone's tastes and preferences are different as are everyone's spending habits, budgetary constraints, length of time in country, and Thai language limitations. It all comes down to this: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, I once did this Annies girl, Annies is not my favorite shop, and the girl was not really my spec although she was the best looking girl in the fishbowl at the time. She was, however, very sweet and she provided passionate, pleasing, and well above average service to me in the loom. But she was not my particular type physically or facially so she was a one timer as far as I was concerned. To my point; a few months later I received a PM from a friend, a respected fellow huntsman and board member and a really nice guy, who raved about the same girl, loved her look including her new silicones that thankfully I did not have the pleasure of, 555. In fact, he was so taken with this girl that he ended his Asian trip with a 3 night stand with her. He later posted pictures of her in his trip report and said she was one of his favorite girls of his entire 45 day trip. So clearly, this girl was a creme de la creme girl for him and I can understand why; they clicked. She was very passionate and loving towards him in bed, she really enjoyed sex, and to him, she looked really, really good. End of story. He was happy so I was happy he was happy. Still, I smile in amazement, because this girl, as nice as she is, was definitely not my type.

So where can we find the "REAL" creme de la creme of BKK girls. Sadly, I do not believe they are available to farang punters like ourselves cruising up and down Sukhumvit. I am talking about the thousands of would be aspiring young Thai TV & movie actresses as well as the wannabe legitimate advertising models. These girls are out there alright in large numbers and I am sure they are making themselves available to affluent Thai businessmen and otherwise well connected westerners. I would love to find the key to this city of hot Thai demi-monde girls. I imagine these girls do not come cheap as in if you have to ask how much a girl like this will cost, you can't afford her. Oh, well. That's life. I will keep looking.Creme de la creme? Well, as farang we really don't have access. Some of the Thai forum sites have some great gals, and many of the creme de la creme are going overseas to work where they can make more money. Sad for us; but who can blame them. In HK and Jakarta we are fishing in the same pond as the locals. In Thailand; not so much and that works to our disadvantage.

LoveHole69
12-14-16, 21:09
Goatscrot,

I would agree with you on June having minimal baby damage stomach wise but I found her tits to saggy to my liking and preferred Yoks service despite her stomach being not so good, so guitar wild defiantly be off my list then.

I'm thinking of a Bangkok trip again soon and don't want more wasted experiences I need a decent be oDy provider who can go all out with 3 holes eagerly.

I think the future is looking bleak regards the PSE talent I'm in Nakhon phanom the province where most of the great PSE providers where coming from and as with a lot of places in Thailand now it seems half of the kids are obese consuming massive amounts of milk and sweet foods. This would be good if some busty girls came through to the shops but it ain't going to happen quality will likely continue going down and prices will probably go up if as someone said mango is doing a anal surcharge now this does t bode well as on my last visit I thought mango quality was better than tulip and Bongkot but none of the lady's volunteered for a MMF 3 Sum.

Syzygies
12-15-16, 06:43
You post yet more drivel. Your original post stated 'Others are looking for cheap' clearly implying you're some kind of a high roller and people who prefer MPs are cheapskates, which is nonsense.
There is no implication of that whatsoever. You seem to be having an emotional reaction to posts and reading in things that are just not there.

I have to worry about budget too. Not every guy is on the same budget. If I take expensive girls it limits how often I can do it. I am not retired but am still cutting back drastically on number of fucks per week.

Other guys want to use their spending money for things other than sex.

Others may like a cheaper girls in order to get more fucks per period of time.

I appreciate saving money by taking bargirls infrequently now.

I will certainly take MP girls when I find the pretty ones, which is not so many.

Today had my special girl overnight and got a pop before breakfast. I haven't got money to go get another fuck today. In fact I may not get sex again until the new year for travel and budget reasons.

It is written so many times on the forum that there is no way guys will pay over x for a girl. If I say some prefer a cheap girl, I am referring to all those who set a low ceiling price. There is no feeling attached to this statement. I just accept that other guys do things differently to me. Very pretty faced girls with tight slim bodies is not everyone's prefence. No need to over react to simple statements of things well known.

Goatscrot
12-15-16, 08:27
Goatscrot,

I would agree with you on June having minimal baby damage stomach wise but I found her tits to saggy to my liking and preferred Yoks service despite her stomach being not so good, so guitar wild defiantly be off my list then.

I'm thinking of a Bangkok trip again soon and don't want more wasted experiences I need a decent be oDy provider who can go all out with 3 holes eagerly.

I think the future is looking bleak regards the PSE talent I'm in Nakhon phanom the province where most of the great PSE providers where coming from and as with a lot of places in Thailand now it seems half of the kids are obese consuming massive amounts of milk and sweet foods. This would be good if some busty girls came through to the shops but it ain't going to happen quality will likely continue going down and prices will probably go up if as someone said mango is doing a anal surcharge now this does t bode well as on my last visit I thought mango quality was better than tulip and Bongkot but none of the lady's volunteered for a MMF 3 Sum.Agree with you wholeheartedly on the future of PSE in BKK. It's quite bleak. In fact, I think the entire Farang P4 P scene is in rapid decline. Plenty for the local boys though. I really think places where we fish in the same pond as the locals will be the only options soon enough.

Crocodilexp
12-15-16, 11:38
In fact, I think the entire Farang P4 P scene is in rapid decline. Plenty for the local boys though. I really think places where we fish in the same pond as the locals will be the only options soon enough.Definitely agree with you that Farang P4 P scene is irreversible and obvious decline, though perhaps not so rapid, it has been declining for the last 5-10 years or so. Do you care to elaborate why you think the local scene is good, and what particular venues?

From what I've seen, sex scene for Thai guys has also been in rapid decline. Definitely on the low end: streetwalkers (Khlong Lot and Wong Wiang 22), short-time-hotels (Hua Chiew and another that escapes me), brothels (Mahachai), karaokes (Inthamara etc) are all shadows of their former self. Midrange (Nataree, other soapies) is not exactly booming either. No idea about G-clubs, not my scene. In fact, my uninformed guess would be that the local scene might be contracting faster than the Farang one, though it was bigger to begin with, and still is.

Is there anything I'm missing?

Goatscrot
12-15-16, 16:45
Definitely agree with you that Farang P4 P scene is irreversible and obvious decline, though perhaps not so rapid, it has been declining for the last 5-10 years or so. Do you care to elaborate why you think the local scene is good, and what particular venues?

From what I've seen, sex scene for Thai guys has also been in rapid decline. Definitely on the low end: streetwalkers (Khlong Lot and Wong Wiang 22), short-time-hotels (Hua Chiew and another that escapes me), brothels (Mahachai), karaokes (Inthamara etc) are all shadows of their former self. Midrange (Nataree, other soapies) is not exactly booming either. No idea about G-clubs, not my scene. In fact, my uninformed guess would be that the local scene might be contracting faster than the Farang one, though it was bigger to begin with, and still is.

Is there anything I'm missing?Actually I think the talent is plentiful on some of the That forum sites. One of our illustrious members posted some links a couple of months back. Some great looking gals (far better looking than what you would see in a GoGo or oily), located all over the city, and not that pricey. It seems the majority of the "scenes" in many locals around our planet are going online. Of course to be able to play one really needs to know the local lingo, and I can speak, but can't read Thai. The G clubs still seem to be hopping. Full of wealthy Thai dudes willing to spend big money. I do think things are becoming more discreet overall.