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Creme de la creme? Well, as farang we really don't have access. Some of the Thai forum sites have some great gals, and many of the creme de la creme are going overseas to work where they can make more money. Sad for us; but who can blame them. In HK and Jakarta we are fishing in the same pond as the locals. In Thailand; not so much and that works to our disadvantage.I would think with enough money, one can get these expensive girls. I had the opportunity to sample some of these years ago, but chose not to. I was not sure they were worth the money.
Crocodilexp
12-16-16, 02:31
Actually I think the talent is plentiful on some of the That forum sites. One of our illustrious members posted some links a couple of months back. Some great looking gals (far better looking than what you would see in a GoGo or oily), located all over the city, and not that pricey. It seems the majority of the "scenes" in many locals around our planet are going online. Of course to be able to play one really needs to know the local lingo, and I can speak, but can't read Thai. The G clubs still seem to be hopping. Full of wealthy Thai dudes willing to spend big money. I do think things are becoming more discreet overall.I've looked at some of those forums, though I've never partaken. Forums and online adverts can be misleading, it's often 20-50 girls being posted all over the place, again and again. You get the impression of a massive scene, whereas in fact it's no larger than 2-3 bars worth of girls. Unless there's a site like the huge searchable 141 databases for Hong Kong (with 1000+ girls), it's hard to gauge the size of the local online scene.
Sadly, you're right that many scenes are moving online. Unfortunately, the online prostitution does not benefit the monger (except in places where there'd be zero otherwise, like the USA). With very few exceptions, online scenes are fragmented, full of cheats / misrepresentation, and favor the seller. They don't give us the ability to browse and the actual goods in person, the immediate availability, the all-important option to talk for a bit and evaluate the girl in person before committing to the transaction, ability to properly negotiate the price / services.
I would think with enough money, one can get these expensive girls. I had the opportunity to sample some of these years ago, but chose not to. I was not sure they were worth the money.Personally I have had very few Thai gals whose skills and looks rated highly. For me personally the appeal of Thailand's P4 P scene was that it was cheap, easy, and plentiful. Even on my first trip I was kind of disappointed to find simple farmer's daughters as opposed to sexually charged and highly skilled P4 P workers, but hey for 12.50 - 25 USD it did not matter. Now that it is significantly more than that the VFM is just not there. There are guys paying 3k ST plus 1 K BF and thinking they got a good deal. Huh? No way. Same gals, same performance for 100 plus USD? For that money I expect a lot more than a gal whose only attraction is a decent body and some enthusiasm. And sometimes you don't even get that.
I've looked at some of those forums, though I've never partaken. Forums and online adverts can be misleading, it's often 20-50 girls being posted all over the place, again and again. You get the impression of a massive scene, whereas in fact it's no larger than 2-3 bars worth of girls. Unless there's a site like the huge searchable 141 databases for Hong Kong (with 1000+ girls), it's hard to gauge the size of the local online scene.
Sadly, you're right that many scenes are moving online. Unfortunately, the online prostitution does not benefit the monger (except in places where there'd be zero otherwise, like the USA). With very few exceptions, online scenes are fragmented, full of cheats / misrepresentation, and favor the seller. They don't give us the ability to browse and the actual goods in person, the immediate availability, the all-important option to talk for a bit and evaluate the girl in person before committing to the transaction, ability to properly negotiate the price / services.Agreed 100%. Online does not benefit the monger unless it is like 141. Great thing about dudes in HK is they really rip the place or the gal online if they don't get good service. Friend tells me of seeing local guys screaming at the mamasan because the gal did not perform. Also I don't think you would encounter gals with such bad baby drag as we tend to see here. Could the online and regular scene improve here? Only if the punters stop with the constant empathy and demand performance and complain if they don't get it and write bad reviews. I have ended quite a few sessions with FLs right after they have started when the gal does not deliver. No issue getting up, getting dressed, and leaving the gal 100 Baht. And no, there have never been repercussions. I'm nice about it and tell her it is not working for me and I don't want her to do anything she is uncomfortable with. Methinks the typical punter that comes to Thailand will not do that. I have no problem doing it. A friend said it so well years ago, "guys don't come to Thailand to doink working gals, they come to Thailand to date working gals. " Sadly that is kind of the undoing of the scene.
Sandy at Addict definitely needs to be booked in advance. As she was busy I attempted to leave but was mobbed by the girls, particularly one claiming to offer the same service as Sandy. She drew my attention to her cleavage which she said was natural and started rubbing my crotch, all the while repeating over and over that she offered the same service as Sandy. I should have asked if 'same service' was A+. For sure there's more than one girl there who's up for it.
Sandy at Addict definitely needs to be booked in advance. As she was busy I attempted to leave but was mobbed by the girls, particularly one claiming to offer the same service as Sandy. She drew my attention to her cleavage which she said was natural and started rubbing my crotch, all the while repeating over and over that she offered the same service as Sandy. I should have asked if 'same service' was A+. For sure there's more than one girl there who's up for it.Yeah I was trying to say, she really needs to be booked. I've never seen her in the lineup before when I went. I only got her when I booked. Speaking of which (providers who are popular and often need to be booked).
Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).
The foreplay is good and worth it (being the tantric massage). These places don't do much in the way of any PSE at all though and many / most here seem to be on the hunt for that. And most of the girls there don't even kiss. And some do CBJ, most don't for me, probably being that I repeat there. YMMV.
Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).
Thanks for that, and worth knowing this type of intel. It is hard to tell which girls are stand out looking at a web site since photo shopping varies from minor to extreme, where some look like plastic dolls rather than human.
I am finding a lot of massage shops are having at most 1 or 2 really pretty girls, if you are lucky that there are actually any pretty girls in attendance, and then there are lots of ordinary looking types.
It is good to be able to see the best girl if possible, and then decide if shop is worth visiting in the future. I went to New Massage and found just one pretty girl, also called Pink. Good for similar reasons. Cute face good sized natural tits, no baby. Other girls did not quite work for me in looks, for one reason or another. Again no pornstar by any mean, but a fun time was possible, except when her pussy was out of action recently due to a bad pounding.
It's great to have someone posting about finding good looking MP girls, since that is exactly what I look for too.
Yeah I was trying to say, she really needs to be booked. I've never seen her in the lineup before when I went. I only got her when I booked. Speaking of which (providers who are popular and often need to be booked).
Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).
The foreplay is good and worth it (being the tantric massage). These places don't do much in the way of any PSE at all though and many / most here seem to be on the hunt for that. And most of the girls there don't even kiss. And some do CBJ, most don't for me, probably being that I repeat there. YMMV.That's the trouble with searching for diamonds in the rough. The diamonds are few and far between and get taken very quickly or booked up. After reading a review of Cartoon at Asok Massage by AsianRain I still haven't managed to get to her when she's not busy. I need to start booking these popular girls I think.
It's great to have someone posting about finding good looking MP girls, since that is exactly what I look for too.I agree. The trouble is when people do post good reports they get completely ignored and drowned out by the irrelevant discussions that dominate this thread. Take AsianRain's report on Cartoon, for example. I don't think anyone replied but irrelevant posts about things like bar girls and people's individual dislike of nose / boob jobs generate dozens of replies. The good reports are there, you just have to wade through a lot of irrelevance to find them.
Yep I have learned booking is the best way to go about it. Sandy at addict told me she only starts work early and leaves after she makes enough money. So I think she only does booking probably, and after enough guys call in she just goes home early. And the pink girl, I remember booking her once, right at the time she starts work, and she waited for me. As soon as I walked into the door, a punter was trying to pick her so I obviously wouldn't have even seen her if I had just walked in without booking. She actually called me like 5 minutes before just to still confirm I was on my way since she probably had a punter already picking her as soon as she started. This isn't the first time this has happened where I make a booking with the "hot one" an see a guy / guys show up right ready to pick her as soon as she walks in the door off the motorsai.
In short, I recall so many times leaving empty handed when I didn't prebook. The only times I don't pre-book are when I just don't feel like it for some reason. Speaking of which, I found is cute masseuse (no baby damage again) working at JW massage on soi 22 (close to sukh / holiday inn). Not going to give out the name as this is a semi-legit place (which means there is always at least a hand job and probably FS if you bring a condom). But if you are walking by JW massage and see a somewhat hot girl (good legs, looks great in jeans, however face / teeth is probably a 5/10 but body 7/10), go for it. She is really attractive with close off, and the worst you'll pay is 450 baht for oil massage and 500 baht for HJ.
Snow White has two mamasans. One of them is younger and comes across as more professional. She knows my requirements and is very easy to do business with. The other is older and not particularly helpful. The only things she really knows how to do is wave the laminated price card and take you to the line-up. She asks how many hours you want before you've even chosen a girl. Anyone know which one is the owner and who the other one is?
I had a mediocre experience there for the first time. I tried to discuss my needs with the older mamasan but she just took me to the line-up but then starts talking on her mobile phone so we all have to wait around awkwardly for her to finish her conversation. There were only 5 girls, including E-Q but she starts talking on her phone. It's totally unacceptable to bring a customer to a line-up he didn't even ask for or want and then fuck around on your mobile phones. I should have just walked out but recall hearing E-Q can deepthroat and her face looked OK so I thought I'd give her a whirl. To be fair, the mamasan warned me that she had a baby and so did E-Q so I can't complain about the baby damage. As for the service, it was all right but she struggles to follow simple instructions and comes across as very disinterested. I wouldn't call her technique deepthroat. She banged my knob against the back of her throat but to me deepthroating means taking it all the way in pornstar-style and she didn't do that. She's A+ but baby-damaged in that department too. When it was over she annoyed me by pulling up the corners of her mouth and telling me to 'smile smile'. You just do your job woman, don't tell the customer what to do with his face.
None of that would have happened if the good mamasan had been there.
She's A+ but baby-damaged in that department too.Disappointing to hear she was underwhelming -- E-Q has been on my "want to try" list. Looks to be my type, but who can tell from the website pics.
Curious what the A+ baby damage means (and what it's like on the rest of her, for that matter). Are we talking stretch marks?
My bar for baby damage was set pretty high after a Tulip experience a year ago with a lady named Boom. Pretty face, but when the top came off she revealed a midsection that had been carved open and appeared to have been sewn back up with fishing line and industrial epoxy. Purple ribbon of scar tissue practically stem to stern. On a 10 scale, her baby damage was a 17. I'm too polite to change girls, and to her credit she gave me one of the best BBBJ and A+ treatment I've had, so it wasn't a total loss. She also started rimming me before we even got in the shower (and I was just off of a 10-hour flight), so you could say she's on the nasty side.
Yeah I was trying to say, she really needs to be booked. I've never seen her in the lineup before when I went. I only got her when I booked. Speaking of which (providers who are popular and often need to be booked).
Pink at Honeybee (on soi 22) is worth checking out. She has gotten better and is their best looking girl. When she was newer, her service / skills were a little too fresh (eg: lacking, inexperienced). Pros: Young (21? Obviously no baby damage, really nice athletic / firm body, really great hip to breast to waist ratio and very round butt. Just look at her pics on their website, it's pretty obvious if you like her looks or not. And her tits are natural, everything is natural. She has a myanmar, big booty build if that makes any sense, but mixed with Issan features (short, tan).
The foreplay is good and worth it (being the tantric massage). These places don't do much in the way of any PSE at all though and many / most here seem to be on the hunt for that. And most of the girls there don't even kiss. And some do CBJ, most don't for me, probably being that I repeat there. YMMV.I agreed with what you said about Pink of Honeybee. In fact, I had a report recently about my session with her. Her B2B massage in my session was very good, that is what I wanted to add.
Are we talking stretch marks?No, far worse than just stretch marks.
But albeit her body is quite below average, her service was not: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1726800&viewfull=1#post1726800
Disappointing to hear she was underwhelming -- E-Q has been on my "want to try" list. Looks to be my type, but who can tell from the website pics.
Curious what the A+ baby damage means (and what it's like on the rest of her, for that matter). Are we talking stretch marks?
My bar for baby damage was set pretty high after a Tulip experience a year ago with a lady named Boom. Pretty face, but when the top came off she revealed a midsection that had been carved open and appeared to have been sewn back up with fishing line and industrial epoxy. Purple ribbon of scar tissue practically stem to stern. On a 10 scale, her baby damage was a 17. I'm too polite to change girls, and to her credit she gave me one of the best BBBJ and A+ treatment I've had, so it wasn't a total loss. She also started rimming me before we even got in the shower (and I was just off of a 10-hour flight), so you could say she's on the nasty side.Personally I don't think the shops should employ gals whose bodies are that ravaged by childbirth. When we go in and see the lineup we should be able to feel confident that the shop has screened out gals whose bodies are like such. If more of us would complain, make it know this is not acceptable, and not take these gals, perhaps it would change. We were talking about this very issue last night. Most Farang are too shy to complain. Asian dudes would raise the roof if offered these kind of gals. We should do the same. Last time I was in Snow White I took a gal upstairs and when she disrobed I was shocked. Told her I just could not and she offered another gal, but truth be told after seeing that I was put off my game and left. Since I always pay after no money changed hands.
Personally I don't think the shops should employ gals whose bodies are that ravaged by childbirth. When we go in and see the lineup we should be able to feel confident that the shop has screened out gals whose bodies are like such. If more of us would complain, make it know this is not acceptable, and not take these gals, perhaps it would change. We were talking about this very issue last night. Most Farang are too shy to complain. Asian dudes would raise the roof if offered these kind of gals. We should do the same. Last time I was in Snow White I took a gal upstairs and when she disrobed I was shocked. Told her I just could not and she offered another gal, but truth be told after seeing that I was put off my game and left. Since I always pay after no money changed hands.I can't argue with that at all. With the benefit of hindsight, I could (and should) have spoken up about it. If anything, the experience has made a lot of the mild damage one sees in the shops a lot more tolerable. I'm also pretty weird in that I find something oddly sexy about subtle stretch marks, so the mild cases have some appeal. Single moms need love, too, right?
Eric Swiss
12-18-16, 07:25
I agree. The trouble is when people do post good reports they get completely ignored and drowned out by the irrelevant discussions that dominate this thread. Take AsianRain's report on Cartoon, for example. I don't think anyone replied but irrelevant posts about things like bar girls and people's individual dislike of nose / boob jobs generate dozens of replies. The good reports are there, you just have to wade through a lot of irrelevance to find them.Thanks to Whorman's reference to AsianRain's report on Cartoon, I decided to give a try to Asok Massage Soi 19. This area is not even on my radar screen, but it is conveniently located within walking distance of Terminal 21 for those who need an excuse: "I'm going shopping. Oops couldn't find anything to buy. " Given that AsianRain's report is generally correct, I will limit myself to the newly gleaned pieces of information.
First, I think a better website than the one originally referenced is http://asok-massage.com/. This is the parlour's own site. The other is just a Japanese review site.
Second, I did not DATY because AsianRain hinted that it would not be well rewarded. I confirm that CBJ is what I got, so that shortcut saved me a lot of saliva. Her pussy is beautiful, though, so I can understand the temptation.
Third, I booked the bathtub room for an extra 100 Baht over the shower room. I almost bailed out when I saw it, because it's basically a small tub inside a big shower. But Cartoon insisted, so I just played along. Pre-fucking was a shower, so it's really like no bathtub at all. But then something unexpected happened: she forgot to turn off the faucet. So, as she was giving me the "regular" massage (which she actually does well, by the way), I had this strange feeling of lying next to a waterfall or a gentle river. Not a bad feeling, but all sorts of scenarios went through my mind, like she was actually deaf, or this was coming from the other room. Anyway, at some point it stopped. And then, after fucking her intensely, she took my hand and led me to a very deep bathtub completely filled with warm water. What a delight! Normally the bath is before and shower after, but this is a great twist. The bathtub was small (1 m50), so she sat in it with her back to me and I cradled her. This was the best part of the hour, I shit you not. I had my arms around her ample bosom ("gravity-defying" is the accurate phrase coined by AsianRain), and I nuzzled the nape of her neck. She was completely relaxed, young, and still relatively innocent-looking. I immediately got another boner. I NEVER get a second boner within the 60 minutes session after a normal fuck and ejaculation. What a divine moment!
Fourth, booking is your friend. I called the Mamasan at 9:50 am, she said she did not know if Cartoon would come, to call back in 10 minutes. I called back in at 10:20 because this is Thailand time and minutes do not mean the same. Cartoon herself picked up the phone and I made my booking with her. When I walked in, the Mamasan immediately assumed I was this guy, even though she had never seen me. Mamasan said many foreigners make booking with Cartoon. She is clearly puzzled. She asked if it was something on the internet. I was evasive. But just to answer Whorman, posters may not reply on the forum to AsianRain's report, but the lurkers do pay attention and act.
I can write another report on another newly discovered girl at Addict named M*, but will anybody want that? Everybody knows Addict, if you like Addict you just pick some chick from the line-up. But little out-of-the-way MPs are potentially of more informational value.
Anyway, my main point was to provide independent confirmation of AsianRain's original report. Thanks Man! And also thanks to Whorman for highlighting it.
Personally I don't think the shops should employ gals whose bodies are that ravaged by childbirth. When we go in and see the lineup we should be able to feel confident that the shop has screened out gals whose bodies are like such. Completely disagree!
Your preferences are definately not mine or those of other guys. I take a mature, slutty "pornstar" with stretch marks anytime over a young and stunning starfish. For me, and maybe just for me, performance tops looks by far distance, so the girls from Tulip, Snow White, Bong Kot et al. usually work great for for.
If you need more quality of looks simply avoid these shops and go to shop that mainly caters for asians. Usually you will find better body bodies and more beautiful faces there.
Or if you want to avoid such experiences just go to a gogo bar.
Thanks to Whorman's reference to AsianRain's report on Cartoon, I decided to give a try to Asok Massage Soi 19. This area is not even on my radar screen, but it is conveniently located within walking distance of Terminal 21 for those who need an excuse: "I'm going shopping. Oops couldn't find anything to buy. " Given that AsianRain's report is generally correct, I will limit myself to the newly gleaned pieces of information.
First, I think a better website than the one originally referenced is http://asok-massage.com/. I can write another report on another newly discovered girl at Addict named M*, but will anybody want that? Everybody knows Addict, if you like Addict you just pick some chick from the line-up. But little out-of-the-way MPs are potentially of more informational value.
Thanks for report. You have interested me enough to go look at the shop and see if anyone appeals. I would not limit myself to Cartoon. Who knows if she is my choice or not, however most shops have limited pretty girls.
Well of course it could be useful to report on Addict girl, if you include the girl's name. Sure we don't care much about Addict Massage in terms of the shop for those who have tried it, but an individual girl is much more meaningful.
Michelle, Maple, Monday, Mena, Music, or?
It's all about particular hot girls, but also whether a shop is worth a visit at all. There are so many shops. We can't visit them all.
Eric Swiss
12-18-16, 10:13
Thanks for report. You have interested me enough to go look at the shop and see if anyone appeals. I would not limit myself to Cartoon. Who knows if she is my choice or not, however most shops have limited pretty girls.
Well of course it could be useful to report on Addict girl, if you include the girl's name. Sure we don't care much about Addict Massage in terms of the shop for those who have tried it, but an individual girl is much more meaningful.
Michelle, Maple, Monday, Mena, Music, or?
It's all about particular hot girls, but also whether a shop is worth a visit at all. There are so many shops. We can't visit them all.I was certain it was Mabel, but given that there is no girl with such name on the Addict website, you are right it must be Maple. Addict would never let two girls with such similar names compete at the same time, it would create too much confusion with bookings. It's just so easy for any girl to adopt a new nickname. There is no way I could have told Maple from Mabel apart just by sonority anyway.
She has blonde-ish hair now, but same tall legs and skinny frame. She is really good for looks. Pretty face, smooth curves, no baby marks. I actually picked her up twice in a line-up of more than 10 girls without remembering it. I always go for the hottest one as a matter of policy because service at Addict is, as you know, quite predictable. She's the one who remembered me, and she got semi-offended or mock-offended because I had forgotten I'd been with her before. But, after she said it, it sort of came back to me, with a hesitancy about her performance.
It was confirmed within the hour. I don't know why or cannot explain how, but I felt the exact same thing twice. I'm here banging away at a hot young chick with perfect body proportions and a pretty smile, and I walk away not one hundred percent satisfied. Of course she drained my balls, and I didn't have to resort to self-stimulation to do it, but there was something lacking. Like she is hiding a tiny little bit of herself inside. She's a little bit too professional. A little bit too perfect. I wouldn't say too mechanical, that would be too harsh.
But even a seasoned pro like Sandy at Addict can make you feel like a million dollars. At the opposite end of the spectrum, a young flower like Cartoon at Asok Massage Soi 19 doesn't even have to do anything, she just has to be there, fully present with her mind and heart and soul to give a man the greatest bounty he can reap. But Maple is just relying a bit too much on the knowledge that her looks are fucking hot to bother making that extra bit of effort that satisfies not just the cock but also the man as a whole.
Anyway, I'm not knocking her down, I'd probably pick her up out of a line-up anyway, as I already did twice, unknowingly. Sorry if I waxed a bit too philosophical in here.
No, far worse than just stretch marks.
But albeit her body is quite below average, her service was not: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1726800&viewfull=1#post1726800I missed the worst of her stretch marks because I brought something for her to wear. It didn't really work out though because the stretch marks extend all the way to the buttocks and thighs. My reference to A+ baby damage was because she has this big old wrinkly starfish. A nice arsehole should be tight and smooth and make you want to lick it (although I never do). Hers had so many lines it looked a bit like a spider's web. I assume this is baby damage as I've never seen an arsehole like that before. I don't want to be mean though. I have an extremely low tolerance for baby damage. Some guys would no doubt love her oversized flaps and wrinkly starfish. She was quite good with her tongue so I can easily see she might be good at rim jobs, but I'm not into that. I bet she does loads of nasty stuff that girls with nicer bodies don't so I don't agree that shops shouldn't employ women like her. There's obviously a demand for service providers like that.
I can write another report on another newly discovered girl at Addict named M*, but will anybody want that? Everybody knows Addict, if you like Addict you just pick some chick from the line-up. But little out-of-the-way MPs are potentially of more informational value.
Anyway, my main point was to provide independent confirmation of AsianRain's original report. Thanks Man! And also thanks to Whorman for highlighting it.The more reports the better. I have in the past written a report which no one has replied to and I've thought to myself, what was the point? It's especially annoying to see your report drowned out by inane chatter. It's good to see the thread is more focussed at the moment. Clearly a lot of people are interested in reports whether they reply or not. Cartoon and A+ at Addict are top of my 'to do' list for next week.
The more reports the better. I have in the past written a report which no one has replied to and I've thought to myself, what was the point? It's especially annoying to see your report drowned out by inane chatter. My general thoughts intended for all posters to consider, not specific to yourself, even you raise the topics. I try to encourage positive field reports to be posted.
There is nothing wrong with reports not replied to. It purely means no one knows anything more or sees things differently. Believe it or not, the Thailand forum used to be worse than today in terms of a few posters being nothing but highly negative shit dumpers on any one attempting to post something positive, often using short smart ass tweets, but not always. Fortunately some of those guys disappeared. I even forget the handle now. Could easily have been "shitdumper". Finally comes back to me "Sourpuss", no Freudian slip is was "LovePuss".
Nothing wrong with some variations in opinion or tastes or priorities, even specs are hard to understand. I can't understand why guys need very white skin for example. This is Thailand after all. No one understands why I am attracted to a cute little upturned nose, big lips and big eyes. No matter.
Unfortunately the positive girl reports have dropped off. Many guys are too lazy to post. Some are scared of a negative backlash. Francisass tries very hard to scare off anyone from posting a positive report in the Annies Thread for example. It definitely works to some extent. There are a lot less posts there now. I don't like the intimidators.
Guys should feel free to post their positive experiences without total shit being dumped on their report. No response could be seen as plus sometimes, meaning no dissent. I said Prae was enthusiastic with me. Goatscot says she was not enthusiastic. I said her face is not broad (average), you said it is. I say was acceptable to me (no surgeries). You guess over 30, I say well under 30 was likely based on figure. I was told 27 (a story but could be true). Too bad we don't all agree. No big deal. I am expecting differing opinions when I post. I said her body was excellent. No dissenters on that topic, so that makes it more believable perhaps.
If we had strong moderators, a lot of irrelevant stuff could be removed from threads, to keep them on track, and shit dumpers could be censored. Unfortunately only the strongest stuff ever gets removed. Some other non-Thailand parts of ISG used to be greatly superior to the Thailand section in terms of intel reports dominating the negative shit, however some of those sections have declined into useless banter dominating. We can't force people to write field reports but can only encourage it. Also to encourage people to write about non standard opinons, so we get variety of perspectives.
Zauberfree does not even care about baby damage. O.K. a different perspective. I don't care if girl has a baby if damage is minor. I don't need extremely overly tiny pussy. Many of my favourite girls had a baby, a small number do not. It's definitely not an issue for me. However Goatscrot's Tank tracks would be an issue for me, as would deflated empty bag tits. It interferes with beauty of the girl's body, spoiling my fantasy. I have to admit to not repeating several popular girls simply because body or face were not good enough. There are things that put guys off, or attract guys, like the big need for A+, or multi pops, or ass licking, etc. that are different to my interests. I can't even say in my reports if the girl likes ass fucking, accepts ass fucking always or sometimes, or what. I can't say if she does multi pops. I just don't know these things. So we need multiple reports on experiences with same girl where possible.
How useful are girl reports? it depends greatly on the reader whether he likes to follow others' recommendations, or always try for himself. However I would be steered away from certain girls based on some negative reports and consider trying some girls based on positive reports. If a girl is fucking gorgeous, I am likely to try no matter what the reports were. If she is not my taste, I am unlikely to try, no matter what the reports are. In the end all my favourites have come from finding for myself. Not one is someone else's recommendation, before I tried myself, unless a complete coincidence. Could be I was influenced to try Cherry when she was at Mango, and maybe Aor at Annies, I can't remember now, however I did find Cherry to have a great body and likewise Aor. Maybe my favourite Annies girl was recommended, without me paying too much attention. I recall trying recommended girls on plenty of occasions and being quite unimpressed, e.g. Vodka, Benz. We learn very well that YMMV. Girls do not standardise their service to exactly the same for each customer. Its impossible because customers have markedly different agendas and plan of activities, and could be laid back or demanding. We have to get used to the idea that the reporter may have very different way of evaluating a girl, and take into account the taste and foibles of the poster.
It is great for me to read a positive report on a girl that I was already considering to try. That is most useful of all, but happens rather too infrequently. Did I ever second someone else's positive review? Again rarely, but can happen. Usually my view varied.
Finally, my view of intel is that it needs to be fairly specific to be of any great use, including name or number of the girl or establishment, and a good description of her face and body, and service levels, where possible, or useful general advice about ways to go about things. Otherwise we just get banter or stories that may or may not be entertaining, but nothing much that can be acted on. Funny reports are nice, but that is so few of them.
Completely disagree!
Your preferences are definately not mine or those of other guys. I take a mature, slutty "pornstar" with stretch marks anytime over a young and stunning starfish. For me, and maybe just for me, performance tops looks by far distance, so the girls from Tulip, Snow White, Bong Kot et al. usually work great for for.
If you need more quality of looks simply avoid these shops and go to shop that mainly caters for asians. Usually you will find better body bodies and more beautiful faces there.
Or if you want to avoid such experiences just go to a gogo bar.I would imagine that most of the guys on this forum would rather have a gal who performs well and has a nice body as opposed to a performer who does not have a nice body. There are some gals that wear their kids well, and I have no problem with that. But many just don't. I have no problem making some concessions with looks, but FFS some of the stomachs I have seen recently are beyond horrific. Honestly, I can find a "mature, slutty "pornstar" with stretch marks" back home in the US of A any day. There are plenty of them available. Being over here means you don't have to settle for that. At least to me that is a big part of it. In fact, one of the reasons I chose Thailand was back in the day the dude's in their 50s and 60s had the hottest gals.
FYI, I need PSE performance as well. I just want it without the map of Thailand on the belly. I have been frequenting PSE shops for well over 10 years. I have been a Tulip denizen since soon after it opened and was at Mango and Snow the first day they opened. The quality of PSE gals has dropped by a mile over the last few years. I used to have no problem finding great looking gals without baby damage in those shops; in fact it was often difficult to choose. In Mango you had Bo, Cherry, Apple, Ann, Mook, and several others whose names I cannot remember all working the shop at the same time. Now it is difficult to find more than one per shop that passes muster. And to top it all it seems that only Tulip and Bongkot have really maintained their performance standards. I have no desire to go the more Asian style places on the soi where you get CBJ and attitude. I gave up GoGo bars almost a decade ago soon after the "Arab" bought his first bar, Midnight. Gave up on FL after Thermae became majority Asian and the prices jumped from 1 k to 2 k. So I have been almost exclusively a PSE shop guy for many years.
I would imagine that ...Actually I agree on nearly everything you posted. It seems we have similar preferences as well as a similar mindset ;)
Yes, the P4 P scene has changed within the last years. Quality in both performance and looks are on the way down, prices are on the way up. In the past everything was simply better ;)
Still there's no use complaining about that. It is what it is, and obviously we can't change the P4 P scene, the girls or the shop policies. We can only change ourselves, which means avoid shops and / or girls, find out new sources of "talent" or even just accept the fact that you either can get a young and sexy starfish or an more mature pornstar. Or maybe for you even don't come back to Thailand for mongering. Still plenty of good girls available, but it just takes much more efforts (based of time and money) to find and get them. The times of P4 P gold digging in Thailand are - unfortunately - over.
Still there's no use complaining about that. It is what it is, and obviously we can't change the P4 P scene, the girls or the shop policies. We can only change ourselves, which means avoid shops and / or girls, find out new sources of "talent" or even just accept the fact that you either can get a young and sexy starfish or an more mature pornstar. Or maybe for you even don't come back to Thailand for mongering. Still plenty of good girls available, but it just takes much more efforts (based of time and money) to find and get them. The times of P4 P gold digging in Thailand are - unfortunately - over.Partly true. Partly over generalised.
Some of my favorite girls are in age range 27 to 33 as they are superior fucks, even if they have a baby already or a grown child.
However young and pretty certainly does not imply a starfish by any means. Some of these girls started fucking at 15 and by 21 are really very experienced. In general Thai hookers are far more horny and passionate than hookers from my home country.
Certainly inexperienced girls have less skills or just less service orientation and may need training up but some of them learn fast. I had a supposedly inexperienced 18 YO cutie. By end of rhe first lesson, her BBBJ had already been very well adapted to how I like it. Yet other girls seem unable to change anything. Maybe too long been doing the BBBJ totally wrong for me. Puzzles me. Ball licking and ass licking don't exactly require massive skills, only a willingness and can be good very quickly. Maybe DT requires practice so few newbie girls have that ability.
Starfish is just a disinterested attitude. Does not come automatically with extra young girls however very few older girls go in the starfish category. Extra young girls may not be ready or motivated for extra old men, or just have not yet learned how to enjoy sex. Maybe older girls will not be hookers if they really hate sex so much. I just guess since I can't say I fully understand.
Still there's no use complaining about that. It is what it is, and obviously we can't change the P4 P scene, the girls or the shop policies. We can only change ourselves, which means avoid shops and / or girls, find out new sources of "talent" or even just accept the fact that you either can get a young and sexy starfish or an more mature pornstar. Or maybe for you even don't come back to Thailand for mongering. Still plenty of good girls available, but it just takes much more efforts (based of time and money) to find and get them. The times of P4 P gold digging in Thailand are - unfortunately - over.Why should we accept it? Neither choice is acceptable. Actually are things we can do about it. Complaining to the mamasans, not accepting poor service, sending gals back downstairs if their bodies are too torn up. Make it known this is not ok. Sadly most farang dudes are way to shy to complain. The shops and gals know this and take advantage of it. I have called off sessions at oilies, with FLs, with GoGo gals. If I am not getting good service the session ends and the gals gets taxi money of 100-200 Baht.
If enough guys complain and biz drops off, policies will change. We need to take our cues from the locals, who really won't accept bad attitudes, poor looks, or completely lackluster service. One reason many of these places don't serve the locals Thai males is they know the gals are not good enough and the Thai guys will complain. They know that most of us won't.
And I would not choose Thailand for a mongering destination at present. I live here and have for almost 2 decades. It is a shame to see the scene decline and I would say a the majority of the blame rests squarely with the punters. Farang guys were far more demanding when I moved here. They certainly had a different attitude from the guys today. We are the customers. We should not expect any less from a P4 P provider than we do any other service we purchase. How about an auto mechanic who only takes care of half the problem and complains the entire time?
Partly true. Partly over generalised.
Some of my favorite girls are in age range 27 to 33 as they are superior fucks, even if they have a baby already or a grown child.
However young and pretty certainly does not imply a starfish by any means. Some of these girls started fucking at 15 and by 21 are really very experienced. In general Thai hookers are far more horny and passionate than hookers from my home country.
Certainly inexperienced girls have less skills or just less service orientation and may need training up but some of them learn fast. I had a supposedly inexperienced 18 YO cutie. By end of rhe first lesson, her BBBJ had already been very well adapted to how I like it. Yet other girls seem unable to change anything. Maybe too long been doing the BBBJ totally wrong for me. Puzzles me. Ball licking and ass licking don't exactly require massive skills, only a willingness and can be good very quickly. Maybe DT requires practice so few newbie girls have that ability.
Starfish is just a disinterested attitude. Does not come automatically with extra young girls however very few older girls go in the starfish category. Extra young girls may not be ready or motivated for extra old men, or just have not yet learned how to enjoy sex. Maybe older girls will not be hookers if they really hate sex so much. I just guess since I can't say I fully understand.The mamasans at the GoGos, oilies, and soapies should ensure that the gals are properly trained. I would say rimming and oral stimulation of the testicles does require skills. Actually I have been with gals in their late 20's who have been on the game for awhile and are still lousy lays. Also the skill set should be constantly improving. When you visit a gal often she should have new tricks to get you going. The best oily gals always had something new up their sleeves. Whatever job you choose to do, you need to be committed to it and work to do it well. And that includes the job of working girl.
Ethan Hunt123
12-19-16, 10:00
I had a pretty bad experience at Addict today so just thought would check with you guys whether some of it was expected?
I am currently in BKK for a 4 day mixed work / leisure trip. In my previous trips. I have had good experiences in PSE places like Mango, Snow White, Bamboo etc. This time basis the reviews here. I thought I would try out Addict.
I headed there last evening. And chose Maple given the good reviews below. She has a slim body with A cup boobs. So. We started out with a pretty much regular bath in the tub. With she scrubbing me down methodically. When we moved to the bed. She refused DFK saying she had a cold. Fair enough. When I asked for 2 shots (in all other places 2 hours means 2 shots) - she says 2 shots only for HJ. But only 1 shot if I wanted to have sex. If I wanted to have sex 2 times. She asked 1 k extra as tip. My bad I didn't walk out immediately as probably the junior took over the thinking. Anyways. I paid up the extra 1 k. But even then she was pretty much a starfish with no enthusiasm. All in all. A disaster. I am sure I was a fool paying 1 k extra for the second shot. Anyone else had similiar experience?
I had a pretty bad experience at Addict today so just thought would check with you guys whether some of it was expected?
I am currently in BKK for a 4 day mixed work / leisure trip. In my previous trips. I have had good experiences in PSE places like Mango, Snow White, Bamboo etc. This time basis the reviews here. I thought I would try out Addict.
I headed there last evening. And chose Maple given the good reviews below. She has a slim body with A cup boobs. So. We started out with a pretty much regular bath in the tub. With she scrubbing me down methodically. When we moved to the bed. She refused DFK saying she had a cold. Fair enough. When I asked for 2 shots (in all other places 2 hours means 2 shots) - she says 2 shots only for HJ. But only 1 shot if I wanted to have sex. If I wanted to have sex 2 times. She asked 1 k extra as tip. My bad I didn't walk out immediately as probably the junior took over the thinking. Anyways. I paid up the extra 1 k. But even then she was pretty much a starfish with no enthusiasm. All in all. A disaster. I am sure I was a fool paying 1 k extra for the second shot. Anyone else had similiar experience?Addict just sucks. Everything about all the girls there suck (except Sandy). People not to stop talking about it because even the bad press is good press and is giving them business. I walked passed the place yesterday and it was all ambiguously ugly women (hard to tell what they look like with the way they dress over most of their bodies and the amount of make up they apply). Anyway, I walked past Addict, ignoring their "more girls inside" sales pitch and headed over to Orient. Where I saw a really hot girl (and pretty good / great service, not PSE) named Pope (she pronounces it Bo-Pei). Pope is like a hot (Thai) girl next door type of look. Down to earth but hot body, attractive / hot face. The pictures on their website don't do her much justice. Also, her tits are all natural and really well sized for a Thai girl. Also FYI, other girls there worth checking out: Donuts and Tan. Tan is quite good service-wise, and Donut is a nice girl, not all bitter like that one you saw at Addict.
In over a decade of mongering in Thailand I have never met a girl with an attitude as bad as Cartoon at Asok Massage. I'm shocked that AsianRain and EricSwiss both gave her good reviews. Were you so spellbound by her looks that you allowed her to act like a little b1tch? Or were your experiences completely different to mine?
So I arrive at about 11 in the morning and the mamasan calls up to her but she's not ready (seems to live up there) and advises me to come back in an hour. I come back and have to wait another 10 minutes or so. When she walks in my immediate impression was that her face is quite nice but nothing special. She's definitely above average for an oily girl but in a Huay Kwang soapy she would be considered average at best. Her skin is not fair enough to appeal to most soapy customers. I didn't really think much of it at the time but even at first glance she had this hostile look on her face. Anyway she looked nice enough so I paid for a 2300 baht session in the shower room. Cartoon then drops a pair of slippers in front of me. In Orient Massage they sit you down, take your shoes off for you and help you on with the slippers but not Cartoon. I'm wearing lace-up shoes so have to take a seat. She does nothing to help. No big deal, I thought and follow her to the room. In most oilies the girl will give you a little hug or something and ask if you want something to drink. Not Cartoon. She just says 'shower' and walks off. When she returns I ask her 'Sabai dee, mai?' (How are you?) The normal response is 'Saibai dee, ka' but not Cartoon. Her response is 'Roojak' (know). I've never heard that response before so I say 'arai na?' She repeats it in a really bitchy way, as if to say 'Are you some kind of fucking retard?' She then says 'Aap naam' which I know means 'take a shower' but I'm just thinking, what the fuck is this attitude? She then shouts it out again as if she's giving orders to a naughty kid. The look on her face was one of hostility and contempt. At that I just called the session off. She scowled and made no attempt to change my mind, just shouted something down to the mamasan as if this is the kind of thing that happens to her all the time. I got my money back and will obviously never go back to this place.
I strongly advise you to stay away from this place. The room is small and crappy with a hard bed and no mirrors or anything. At Huay Kwang soapies the rooms are far better and there are plenty of girls better looking than Cartoon who are at least polite and do their job properly. The price is about the same too. Or if you prefer the oily set-up I saw Bonus in Snow White recently and she's just as attractive and doesn't have the pathetic attitude.
I went to see Sandy today. She was busy but the mamasan confirmed she is A+. I asked if there are other A+ girls in the shop and was told that Sandy is the only one. So I came back for her but when I saw her her face was not acceptable to me. Prae from Mango is younger looking and more attractive. Emmy from Snow White is younger looking and more attractive than either. So that's the last time I go to Addict. I can easily think of half a dozen baby-free girls in the PSE shops who are A+, younger and more attractive than Sandy.
In over a decade of mongering in Thailand I have never met a girl with an attitude as bad as Cartoon at Asok Massage. I'm shocked that AsianRain and EricSwiss both gave her good reviews. Were you so spellbound by her looks that you allowed her to act like a little b1tch? Or were your experiences completely different to mine?
So I arrive at about 11 in the morning and the mamasan calls up to her but she's not ready (seems to live up there) and advises me to come back in an hour. I come back and have to wait another 10 minutes or so. When she walks in my immediate impression was that her face is quite nice but nothing special. She's definitely above average for an oily girl but in a Huay Kwang soapy she would be considered average at best. Her skin is not fair enough to appeal to most soapy customers. I didn't really think much of it at the time but even at first glance she had this hostile look on her face. Anyway she looked nice enough so I paid for a 2300 baht session in the shower room. Cartoon then drops a pair of slippers in front of me. In Orient Massage they sit you down, take your shoes off for you and help you on with the slippers but not Cartoon. I'm wearing lace-up shoes so have to take a seat. She does nothing to help. No big deal, I thought and follow her to the room. In most oilies the girl will give you a little hug or something and ask if you want something to drink. Not Cartoon. She just says 'shower' and walks off. When she returns I ask her 'Sabai dee, mai?' (How are you?) The normal response is 'Saibai dee, ka' but not Cartoon. Her response is 'Roojak' (know). I've never heard that response before so I say 'arai na?' She repeats it in a really bitchy way, as if to say 'Are you some kind of fucking retard?' She then says 'Aap naam' which I know means 'take a shower' but I'm just thinking, what the fuck is this attitude? She then shouts it out again as if she's giving orders to a naughty kid. The look on her face was one of hostility and contempt. At that I just called the session off. She scowled and made no attempt to change my mind, just shouted something down to the mamasan as if this is the kind of thing that happens to her all the time. I got my money back and will obviously never go back to this place.
I strongly advise you to stay away from this place. The room is small and crappy with a hard bed and no mirrors or anything. At Huay Kwang soapies the rooms are far better and there are plenty of girls better looking than Cartoon who are at least polite and do their job properly. The price is about the same too.Perhaps it was your knowledge of Thai language that led to your bad experience. Because I've been with a Thai lady who once told me she didn't like farangs who spoke Thai language and who knew "everything" in Thailand. Fortunately, I couldn't speak Thai, and I didn't know much about Thailand. Which meant that her dislike didn't apply to me.
I think your inability to speak Thai language and your unfamiliarity with their culture makes the lady feel safe in terms of her reputation in her community. Because this means that you don't know anybody she might know. And you are unable to blab about her to other people, who know her, even if you want to.
Perhaps it was your knowledge of Thai language that led to your bad experience. Because I've been with a Thai lady who once told me she didn't like farangs who spoke Thai language and who knew "everything" in Thailand. Fortunately, I couldn't speak Thai, and I didn't know much about Thailand. Which meant that her dislike didn't apply to me.
I think your inability to speak Thai language and your unfamiliarity with their culture makes the lady feel safe in terms of her reputation in her community. Because this means that you don't know anybody she might know. And you are unable to blab about her to other people, who know her, even if you want to.Nice theory but I always speak Thai with the girls and have never had anything other than a positive reaction. Also the poor attitude started before she even knew I spoke Thai, with the contemptuous look and deliberately dropping the slippers on the floor. And she wouldn't know I spoke Thai just because I said sabai dee mai. Half the tourists and all the expats know that expression. Also Thai WGs are happy to give out their social media details even though it reveals information about themselves and their friends so I don't think there's any validity at all in what you say.
Addict just sucks. Everything about all the girls there suck (except Sandy). People not to stop talking about it because even the bad press is good press and is giving them business. I walked passed the place yesterday and it was all ambigously ugly women (hard to tell what they look like with the way they dress over most of their bodies and the amount of make up they apply). Anyway, I walked past Addict, ignoring their "more girls inside" sales pitch and headed over to Orient. Where I saw a really hot girl (and pretty good / great service, not PSE) named Pope (she pronounces it Bo-Pei). Pope is like a hot (thai) girl next door type of look. Down to earth but hot body, attractive / hot face. The pictures on their website don't do her much justice. Also, her tits are all natural and really well sized for a Thai girl. Also FYI, other girls there worth checking out: Donut and Tan. Tan is quite good service-wise, and Donut is a nice girl, not all bitter like that one you saw at Addict.I agree that Orient is a lot better than Addict in every respect except the number of girls. Addict really does suck.
I agree that Orient is a lot better than Addict in every respect except the number of girls. Addict really does suck.I have seen a looker sitting at Orient when coming out of a Mango session, but you have to be lucky with timing. When I went specifically there to try to find her again, no pretties were available, in fact line up can be a lot more ordinary than Addict line up, for looks at least, at times. No clue for service as did not find a doable girl yet at the right time. Really most shops are like this with one or two lookers if you get lucky to be there at the right time, when hot girl is not busy. Maybe my spec is strange. LOL I don't think Pope or Donut can be to my spec (who nose the reasons?), Tan a maybe. O.K. Service can be expected to be better is good news at least.
At Addict I would guess they have very limited good girls, but plenty of average girls (not exactly horrible and not memorable). The good one I had, J J, is not there any more. I will still try if I can find a stunner, just in case she can be good. I can't assume the shop can cause every girl to be bad. We already know there can be odd girls well above average, just maybe not many. I agree with Parkville that uniforms make it tough, however I would go for the skinniest possible girls for that reason.
Asian Rain
12-19-16, 15:03
In over a decade of mongering in Thailand I have never met a girl with an attitude as bad as Cartoon at Asok Massage. I'm shocked that AsianRain and EricSwiss both gave her good reviews. Were you so spellbound by her looks that you allowed her to act like a little b1tch? Or were your experiences completely different to mine?Read my original report again (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1941909&viewfull=1#post1941909). I was QUITE CLEAR that I was UNHAPPY about her service (the demand for CBJ after I gave her DATY where she orgasmed was one of the most off-putting experiences I have had at an oily) and not impressed with the facilities. I only commented that she was cute (which was my subjective view, others opinion may vary) with a totally tight natural body and fantastic tits (which you never got to see as you bailed from the session). YMMV. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
Perhaps it was your knowledge of Thai language that led to your bad experience. Because I've been with a Thai lady who once told me she didn't like farangs who spoke Thai language and who knew "everything" in Thailand. Fortunately, I couldn't speak Thai, and I didn't know much about Thailand. Which meant that her dislike didn't apply to me.
I think your inability to speak Thai language and your unfamiliarity with their culture makes the lady feel safe in terms of her reputation in her community. Because this means that you don't know anybody she might know. And you are unable to blab about her to other people, who know her, even if you want to.Can't agree Dan. I speak Thai to all my massage ladies and do not strike the seemingly bitchy attitude. They are mostly grateful I can speak Thai so they don't have to struggle with English. It is more in a group situation where my Thai ability may not be appreciated when girls want to gossip secretly.
Roojak is not a proper response to Sabai Dee Mai ("How are you" It is not clear what is going on here. Roojak means to know someone (rather than know something). Is she implying she knows *****man? Perhaps his ISG post was read and they are expecting him, and it is known he likes A+ and no babies, or other explanations are possible. Not wise to be too sure what is the meaning. He rightly queried the meaning. She seemed to be acting extremely impatiently about him taking the shower. Wasting time is allowed after all.
It's quite puzzling really to understand exactly what is going on. Has she read or miss-read some sort of sign language. Does she think she knows him or visa versa? I suppose someone in a bad mood could wonder why a guy is asking about her good health when he has never met her, but in that case she would have said "roojak mai" to turn it into a question. "Roojak" is purely a statement of knowing someone. So strike that last thought off.
With such simple Thai words, it seems unlikely anyone misheard.
I was certain it was Mabel, but given that there is no girl with such name on the Addict website, you are right it must be Maple.
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Anyway, I'm not knocking her down, I'd probably pick her up out of a line-up anyway, as I already did twice, unknowingly. Sorry if I waxed a bit too philosophical in here.The way Thai pronounce Maple could sound like Mabel very easily. They use what is called unaspirated P, and cannot do the L properly so probably sounds like May-bpern with "bp" being half way between a western B and P.
I thought her web pics looked okay possibly up to pretty, but face was somewhat hidden. I picked 4 girls I liked. Only Smile and Yumi remain. Kaimook and A have gone from website. I am wondering if this place has high turnover?
Your report has not really attracted me to Maple or put me off. I need to get a look at the real girl and also Smile and Yumi, to see which one stands out for me, if any.
Sandy is on the top of the web page. I hope this means something (top girl?) and there is a reason why Smile is number 2. Another poster confirmed Smile is very pretty and delicate.
Anyway I can tell from your posts, you are an optimist and not too tough on girls. I see myself as mid range probably on the optimistic side as well.
Perhaps it was your knowledge of Thai language that led to your bad experience. Because I've been with a Thai lady who once told me she didn't like farangs who spoke Thai language and who knew "everything" in Thailand. Fortunately, I couldn't speak Thai, and I didn't know much about Thailand. Which meant that her dislike didn't apply to me.LOL, bruh. They are manipulating you when they say that. "I not like old man, not same my age. " Then same day they'll tell the older customers "I not like young guy, too immature. " I wouldn't believe anything they say at just face value. There is always some truth and lie behind what they say. Truth in that their mind came up with those words to begin with, lie in that it benefits them from saying it. They will almost always say something flattering, it's their job, if they're able to do it. Some are just cunts and have no rapport.
I had a pretty bad experience at Addict today so just thought would check with you guys whether some of it was expected?
I am currently in BKK for a 4 day mixed work / leisure trip. In my previous trips. I have had good experiences in PSE places like Mango, Snow White, Bamboo etc. This time basis the reviews here. I thought I would try out Addict.
I headed there last evening. And chose Maple given the good reviews below. She has a slim body with A cup boobs. So. We started out with a pretty much regular bath in the tub. With she scrubbing me down methodically. When we moved to the bed. She refused DFK saying she had a cold. Fair enough. When I asked for 2 shots (in all other places 2 hours means 2 shots) - she says 2 shots only for HJ. But only 1 shot if I wanted to have sex. If I wanted to have sex 2 times. She asked 1 k extra as tip. My bad I didn't walk out immediately as probably the junior took over the thinking. Anyways. I paid up the extra 1 k. But even then she was pretty much a starfish with no enthusiasm. All in all. A disaster. I am sure I was a fool paying 1 k extra for the second shot. Anyone else had similiar experience?Here is a review from last week where I explained the 2 shots policy of Addict.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1973253&viewfull=1#post1973253.
You could have received a BJ for the second shot. Better to keep your 1000 baht to go and fuck another girl if you had time, after all 1000 baht is already half the price for a 1 hour session.
I picked 4 girls I liked. Only Smile and Yumi remain. Kaimook and A have gone from website. I am wondering if this place has high turnover?
Your report has not really attracted me to Maple or put me off. I need to get a look at the real girl and also Smile and Yumi, to see which one stands out for me, if any.
Sandy is on the top of the web page. I hope this means something (top girl?) and there is a reason why Smile is number 2. Another poster confirmed Smile is very pretty and delicate.
Anyway I can tell from your posts, you are an optimist and not too tough on girls. I see myself as mid range probably on the optimistic side as well.The turnover is indeed very high in that shop. They've got a lot of girls working for them and they put a big pressure on them (looks like their rules are very strict).
Back in October I went there 3 times and could not even spot one girl that is featured on their website. Each time the line up was more than 15 girls but none were appealing and the girls were different every time.
I think I asked for Sandy but they told me I will have to book her, didn't want to take the risk. I tried to book Candy but was told she will be back in the end of the month with big boobs, so I did not take anyone in 3 visits.
As for Smile, if she really works there, you may have to book her if you want to meet her.
Please keep in mind that my experience with her was from a few month ago, in another MP. I would not be surprised if the service that she delivers nowadays is different from what I received a that time. I realized that the poor service from the girls in Addict was mostly due to the girls being overworking.
In fact I once met a girl (in another MP) , that was working in Addict for a few month before quiting her job because she had been pregnant. That girl was very nice during my 2 hours session, she offered many shots and gave me a good service, opposed to the service that I received from 3 different girls in Addict.
LoveHole69
12-19-16, 18:49
Syzgies,
That made me laugh Thais have a problem with p and L, a lot of English people particularly Londoners have a non existent l maple would sound like maipoow yet it's not to difficult to know what they are saying.
Anyway I forgot to mention on my last trip to BKK I noticed a new shop at thong lo near tulip brightly colored exterior with a sign I don't remember if it was on the same or other side of the street to tulip, I called in there late and was told by the lady she did multiple pops and a plus, she looked very nasty but a little old for my tastes so I declined I don't know if it was just this lady that's PSE and multiple but I'd imagine must be more lady's in that's shop, I will defiantly check it out again soon it would be great to get some reports on it especially as the lady mentioned this to me without any asking on my behalf bat services offered.
Here is a review from last week where I explained the 2 shots policy of Addict.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=1973253&viewfull=1#post1973253
You could have received a BJ for the second shot. Better to keep your 1000 baht to go and fuck another girl if you had time, after all 1000 baht is already half the price for a 1 hour session.Your link is corrected.
I don't think one can really get 2 shots at a place like Addict. Web site does not mention it.
Web site does say that no other shop can match the beauty, enthusiasm and professionalism of their shop. However we are getting a lot of reports to the contrary. I am getting the feeling that they started off as well as could be expected, but have declined badly. There are a lot of new girls, and a lot gone.
The fancy uniform is sucking some guys in, however I have failed to choose a girl on several occasions with looks not that inspiring, and at least two girls actually chosen had somewhat disappointing bodies once the clothes came off. Service from these girls was so so average. I only ever had the one worthwhile girl of moderate face and OK body (no major flaws) and good enthusiastic service who is gone now.
General agreement is that Addict rooms are O.K. to good, but girls are generally not good. Hard to have generally good girls, when have such a continual stream of new ones.
What was the real attraction of this shop? I think initially it had to be the large line up of girls and the fancy uniforms, both of these are not really worth that much practically. I would rather girls wore something more skimpy and revealing and would rather have a smaller number of girls if prettier.
Others point out that it may be quite difficult to find the prettier girls on the web site. Some of the girls may work seriously small hours, due to other commitments, such as being a student. Some may work at other shops as well. Does Addict have a sister shop?
At least other shops have developed a generally good service reputation, but Addict seems to have a reputation for only hype and very little of substance. I accept that individual girls like Sandy, may well be special exception girls that really do deliver, but who are the real beauties at Addict? That still remains a mystery.
Like Eric Swiss, I can accept a little less than outstanding service from a super stunner, but yet to meet such a girl at Addict. I remember once, being so taken by a beautiful girl, I forgot to get a BJ from her, moving straight from DATY to getting the dick in. LOL So later I could not say what her BBBJ was like. LOL
Syzgies,
That made me laugh Thais have a problem with p and L, a lot of English people particularly Londoners have a non existent l maple would sound like maipoow yet it's not to difficult to know what they are saying.
Anyway I forgot to mention on my last trip to BKK I noticed a new shop at thong lo near tulip brightly colored exterior with a sign I don't remember if it was on the same or other side of the street to tulip, I called in there late and was told by the lady she did multiple pops and a plus, she looked very nasty but a little old for my tastes so I declined I don't know if it was just this lady that's PSE and multiple but I'd imagine must be more lady's in that's shop, I will defiantly check it out again soon it would be great to get some reports on it especially as the lady mentioned this to me without any asking on my behalf bat services offered.I think you are talking about Sky Massage.
http://sky-massage.com/index.html
Anyway I forgot to mention on my last trip to BKK I noticed a new shop at thong lo near tulip brightly colored exterior with a sign I don't remember if it was on the same or other side of the street to tulip, I called in there late and was told by the lady she did multiple pops and a plus, she looked very nasty but a little old for my tastes so I declined I don't know if it was just this lady that's PSE and multiple but I'd imagine must be more lady's in that's shop, I will defiantly check it out again soon it would be great to get some reports on it especially as the lady mentioned this to me without any asking on my behalf bat services offered.Pity Google Maps. Street view is out of date (2014) or we could potentially find the new shop.
Addict evaluation again. So a year or 2 ago they were a well reviewed shop: http://rockitreports.com/review-addict-massage-bangkok-thailand/.
If you look at the comments section at the bottom, you'll see it starting from quite good (huge lineup, similar to nataree) to getting progressively bad (girls taking 15 minutes to bring water back, listening to K-pop during entire session).
Let's just be real here. Addict sucks currently. Whatever they started with seemed to be good, but perhaps through no fault of their own, such as losing all their good looking girls to Japanese sponsors, they have little-to-nothing of P4 P value. The place is a definite avoid for now. What is confusing is that people are reading the older reports and still showing up LOL. Best thing to do is walk through entire street until you see something you like. You'll probably just want to skip Addict of course as the girls look really plain and try to hide it with lots of make-up and a very defect-concealing uniform.
Right now it seems these places are still viable: Snow white (I don't go there I just see it brought up a lot), mango, orient, honeybee / kiss.
Addict evaluation again. So a year or 2 ago they were a well reviewed shop: http://rockitreports.com/review-addict-massage-bangkok-thailand/.
If you look at the comments section at the bottom, you'll see it starting from quite good (huge lineup, similar to nataree) to getting progressively bad (girls taking 15 minutes to bring water back, listening to K-pop during entire session).
Let's just be real here. Addict sucks currently. Whatever they started with seemed to be good, but perhaps through no fault of their own, such as losing all their good looking girls to Japanese sponsors, they have little-to-nothing of P4 P value. The place is a definite avoid for now. What is confusing is that people are reading the older reports and still showing up LOL. Best thing to do is walk through entire street until you see something you like. You'll probably just want to skip Addict of course as the girls look really plain and try to hide it with lots of make-up and a very defect-concealing uniform.
Right now it seems these places are still viable: Snow white (I don't go there I just see it brought up a lot), mango, orient, honeybee / kiss.Wow Sandy looked fucking gorgeous in the pic in that old review. Doesn't look the same as current web site pics. Looks a lot skinnier. Has the photo been shrunk? LOL Amazingly the writer wrote that a one hour session leads to no rush, where I consider 1 hour is what I do when I am in a big hurry, so a few things he wrote don't quite gel with me. I never found the Addict line up to be that special from the get go, and always struggled to choose a girl that really appealed a lot despite the size of the line up, no doubt my well known biases interfering with the beauty evaluation, and just a bit dark inside after coming in from the sunshine.
I absolutely agree about going for a walk through massage shop streets and keep looking till find something. Recently that resulted in me passing Addict and 102 and Orient and deciding that Mango Prae was acceptable, with Fern absent, was given a very good session, and decided I had got lucky. Previously found extra pretty girls at Boss and Can Cam in Soi 24/1 but can't say if they have anyone nice right now. Have to admit its a long time since took an EZ girl. The standard there dropped off I guess, and Pink Massage became useless to me once the stunning Gaew left there.
Also a fair time since I took SW girls (despite looking in there a few times), or Bongkot since June left, or Angel, or Yoremichi, etc. Also a long time since I looked in Tulip. This was possibly an over reaction to a Tulip visit one day that only had absolute dogs in attendance, and all looked well past it. I don't recall recognising any of them. Hopefully that visit was a complete aberration. Traveler123 was with me at the time, so I think he would back me up the line up that day was just appalling, and he is not a negative type guy and a long time Tulip fan.
Thanks for info on Orient and Honeybee / Kiss. I should give them a closer look in the new year.
Can these two pics, be of the same Sandy at Addict? I think not. The second pic could be just a model used for the publicity shots. Looks far too good. I am literally swooning. I could even ignore the oversize coconuts.
Your link is corrected.
I don't think one can really get 2 shots at a place like Addict. Web site does not mention it.
Web site does say that no other shop can match the beauty, enthusiasm and professionalism of their shop. However we are getting a lot of reports to the contrary. I am getting the feeling that they started off as well as could be expected, but have declined badly. There are a lot of new girls, and a lot gone.Thanks for correcting the previous link.
For the 2 shots at Addict I'm confident that anyone should get at least 1 shot by BJ and also 1 shot by FS. During the session I stated earlier I mentioned that the management had been involved (manager and big boss which is the cashier). The girls in that place must respect strict rules about arriving late or taking days off, or they'll have to give back some money and in the end get fired if it happens too frequently. I guess that there must be some rules about a minimum service that the girl has to deliver to any customer also. If it was not the case, the management would have told me that it's up to the girl whatever service she delivers more than the usual 1 shot.
As an example, I went in their sister shop in Soi 33 (Amethyst shop) quickly after their opening. I have chosen a pretty girl but she was very lazy. She was a real starfish. Yet after my first shot I asked for another one and she gave me the usual bullshit that I would have to give her 1000 more for the 2nd shot. I clearly told her that I 'm aware that the girl has to give a 2nd shot by way of HJ or BJ if requested by the customer and finally I received an new BJ. It was a half-hearted one but at least she did it. So my guess is that if a customer want another shot, he has to make it clear to the girl and he will get it. Girls in that place can make more money than in many other MPs because that shop attracts a lot of customers (mostly Asians, as every time I've been there I saw some Japanese guy entering the shop) , that's the reason why they can keep some strict rules and why the girls are afraid to lose their job. If customers complain about her service she will look not good in front of her boss.
Right now it seems these places are still viable: Snow white (I don't go there I just see it brought up a lot), mango, orient, honeybee / kiss.Not so sure about Mango, but if you are interested in performance, Tulip and Bongkot are still tops. Saeng has seen to that standards have been kept up. Too bad the looks are not so hot.
I can easily think of half a dozen baby-free girls in the PSE shops who are A+, younger and more attractive than Sandy.Pray do tell. Who are you referring to? I am having a very hard time finding such.
Can these two pics, be of the same Sandy at Addict? I think not. The second pic could be just a model used for the publicity shots. Looks far too good. I am literally swooning. I could even ignore the oversize coconuts.You seem to be a really poor judge of photos. Clearly they are both of Sandy and both have been severely photoshopped. I don't know how anyone could swoon over such an obvious photoshop job. I saw her up close yesterday and she's much darker and saggier with quite wrinkly skin. I think you need to just ignore those photoshopped photos as they're so far away from you're getting in real life that they're worthless.
Pray do tell. Who are you referring to? I am having a very hard time finding such.Snow White: Ninja, Emmy, Nonny, View.
Mango: Prae.
Cherry: Yaya, BB and First.
I've only tried the Snow White ones and Nonny's gone home for the time being but the others are baby-free just going by reports. Cherry girls seems to have attitude problems judging by my limited experience there and other reports.
Clearly they are both of Sandy and both have been severely photoshopped.No one really falls for girls based on photoshopped pics only. That is so obvious. I am a pessismist who assumes that the real girls are far less pretty than the photos is quite possible. I am also sceptical when people say the real girl looks better than the photos, but not totally impossible.
I was joking around a little re swooning, however I don't see any real similarity between the two pics at all, so I am highly sceptical they are the same girl. I concede that severe photoshopping may produce apparently two different girls. I have not seen the real girl to compare to either. I did say IF a girl looked like the photo for real, I would really go for her. Something hypothetical.
I am surprised that you would say both are CLEARLY Sandy, for such dissimilar pics, IMO. I did put my post in form of a question, to indicate I was not sure if was the same girl or not. Skeptical means not sure. I am a sceptical type not convinced too easily one way or the other.
Several of your posts are heading towards personal attacks, so I wonder if I am really that irritating to give my own opinions on things, and make a few little exaggerated jokes. Maybe some people are a bit too sensitive about certain things.
I admit to launching personal attacks on Francisass due to his persistent intimidation of positive posters in the Annies thread. However I don't see myself as an excessive shit dumper like him.
I was joking around a little re swooning, however I don't see any real similarity between the two pics at all, so I am highly sceptical they are the same girl. I concede that severe photoshopping may produce apparently two different girls. I have not seen the real girl to compare to either.
I am surprised that you would say both are CLEARLY Sandy, for such dissimilar pics.There's no point going round in circles with this one. I'm 100% certain that both of those photos are of the same woman I met yesterday. Your perceptions are different (and wrong).
Your perceptions are different (and wrong).I was clearly unsure, being sceptical it was the same girl. If I don't know, that can't be so wrong, as such. You could say my scepticism was not warranted, if you could see a strong similarity that I could not detect.
I wonder if others also see the similarity or not? It could be an example of just how far photoshopping can make a girl look different, however I did not know that photo shopping computers had a magic "make the girl look beautiful" button, while understanding it could obviously slim her down, change her skin colour, remove blemishes distort certain parts of the body too small or too prominent, etc.
I did not know how sophisticated photo shopping has got that any girl could be turned into a gorgeous look. Does this mean that for shopped photography situations, pretty models are no longer needed any more? maybe some photoshopping experts can enlighten us further on this topic.
Several of your posts are heading towards personal attacks, so I wonder if I am really that irritating to give my own opinions on things, and make a few little exaggerated jokes. Maybe some people are a bit too sensitive about certain things.
I think you're being oversensitive if you consider what I wrote a personal attack. What I do find irritating though is that you seem to think your own opinion is hugely important to other people, when in reality it probably isn't. You derail the thread by trying to turn a minor issue like a touched-up photo into a massive discussion about things that have nothing to do with the subject of the thread. That makes the thread very difficult to navigate as people have to wade through page after page of your posts and the replies which you occasionally elicit in order to see the more useful stuff like field reports. Not every thought you have has to be written down and shared on this forum.
Snow White: Ninja, Emmy, Nonny, View.
Mango: Prae.
Cherry: Yaya, BB and First.
I've only tried the Snow White ones and Nonny's gone home for the time being but the others are baby-free just going by reports. Cherry girls seems to have attitude problems judging by my limited experience there and other reports.Thanks much. You the man! Have had all but First, and View. Time for some new experiences! For me Golf is still the only gold standard without a kid still working. Would be great to find others.
Eric Swiss
12-20-16, 18:13
Wow Sandy looked fucking gorgeous in the pic in that old review. Doesn't look the same as current web site pics. Looks a lot skinnier. Has the photo been shrunk? LOL Amazingly the writer wrote that a one hour session leads to no rush, where I consider 1 hour is what I do when I am in a big hurry, so a few things he wrote don't quite gel with me. I never found the Addict line up to be that special from the get go, and always struggled to choose a girl that really appealed a lot despite the size of the line up, no doubt my well known biases interfering with the beauty evaluation, and just a bit dark inside after coming in from the sunshine.
I absolutely agree about going for a walk through massage shop streets and keep looking till find something. Recently that resulted in me passing Addict and 102 and Orient and deciding that Mango Prae was acceptable, with Fern absent, was given a very good session, and decided I had got lucky. Previously found extra pretty girls at Boss and Can Cam in Soi 24/1 but can't say if they have anyone nice right now. Have to admit its a long time since took an EZ girl. The standard there dropped off I guess, and Pink Massage became useless to me once the stunning Gaew left there.
Also a fair time since I took SW girls (despite looking in there a few times), or Bongkot since June left, or Angel, or Yoremichi, etc. Also a long time since I looked in Tulip. This was possibly an over reaction to a Tulip visit one day that only had absolute dogs in attendance, and all looked well past it. I don't recall recognising any of them. Hopefully that visit was a complete aberration. Traveler123 was with me at the time, so I think he would back me up the line up that day was just appalling, and he is not a negative type guy and a long time Tulip fan.
Thanks for info on Orient and Honeybee / Kiss. I should give them a closer look in the new year.
Can these two pics, be of the same Sandy at Addict? I think not. The second pic could be just a model used for the publicity shots. Looks far too good. I am literally swooning. I could even ignore the oversize coconuts.I can personally confirm from repeated personal experience that the two pics are of the same Sandy at Addict. I am not saying she looks like that right now, but she can look like that on a good day with professional lighting, make-up and a talented photographer to direct her pose. She may have a few kilos more now, but the photoshopping, to the extent there is any, is not egregious.
I don't think men book Sandy for her looks, although her looks are fine. They book her for her total dedication to, and uncanny talent for, arousing and satisfying the male's desire.
Eric Swiss
12-20-16, 18:40
Addict evaluation again. So a year or 2 ago they were a well reviewed shop: http://rockitreports.com/review-addict-massage-bangkok-thailand/.
If you look at the comments section at the bottom, you'll see it starting from quite good (huge lineup, similar to nataree) to getting progressively bad (girls taking 15 minutes to bring water back, listening to K-pop during entire session).
Let's just be real here. Addict sucks currently. Whatever they started with seemed to be good, but perhaps through no fault of their own, such as losing all their good looking girls to Japanese sponsors, they have little-to-nothing of P4 P value. The place is a definite avoid for now. What is confusing is that people are reading the older reports and still showing up LOL. Best thing to do is walk through entire street until you see something you like. You'll probably just want to skip Addict of course as the girls look really plain and try to hide it with lots of make-up and a very defect-concealing uniform.
Right now it seems these places are still viable: Snow white (I don't go there I just see it brought up a lot), mango, orient, honeybee / kiss.In what way is this an evaluation if you do not include a field report in it?
Eric Swiss
12-20-16, 19:07
And now Ladies and Gentlemen, well just Gentlemen I guess, for something completely different: yes, an actual field report. Ta-daa!
Pink is off on Sundays. Makes you wonder what night club she freelances at Saturday nights.
I booked her before the shop opened and they told she probably wouldn't be in at the open, and to come at 11:30. Not the early riser, then. There was another chick on the front couch doing her make-up who looked pretty fuckable, so it looks like Honeybee have a solid line-up overall. Anyway, Pink showed up, with a cute bright smile, pretty chuffed at having been booked first thing in the morning. She said: I am Pink!
I booked full service in VIP room for 2500. She also does lingam massage, whatever that is, and costumes like nurse or schoolgirl for pervs. Sounds like fun.
Only problem is that halfway through the oil massage some worker next door started on the pneumatic hammer. It felt like he was going to burst through the wall any second, so loud he was. Worst thing is the noise wasn't even regular, you could just picture him starting and stopping and dialing the speed up and down. The least romantic setup ever for a VIP room. I was sure I wouldn't even be able to get it up, so annoyed I was. Oh boy did Pink prove me wrong.
Apart from her lovely smile, and I do mean lovely, one of her strong points is the sensual transition phase after the regular oil massage but before the flip. She probably could have made me come right there. After the flip, nice HJ. The BJ was exceptional. She kept looking at me with those fuck-me eyes. At some point I told her to stop. She looked at me straight and said "because it hurts?" I said "you going to make me cum". So condom, fucked her in all sorts of positions. I finished in sort of the missionary but with her ankles wrapped around my ears. Not many girls can do that. The pneumatic drill was still going on but I could not hear it. The only pneumatic drill I was aware of was my own cock!
WIR? Yes. Weird tattoo on her back, and Lord knows I had plenty of time to look at it as I was taking her doggy-style, so avoid if that turns you off. But apart from that she's definitely bookable.
....When I asked for 2 shots (in all other places 2 hours means 2 shots) - she says 2 shots only for HJ. But only 1 shot if I wanted to have sex. If I wanted to have sex 2 times. She asked 1 k extra as tip. My bad I didn't walk out immediately as probably the junior took over the thinking. Anyways. I paid up the extra 1 k. But even then she was pretty much a starfish with no enthusiasm. All in all. A disaster. I am sure I was a fool paying 1 k extra for the second shot. Anyone else had similiar experience?I think counting cumshots is a wrong way to go about it. Because the key to satisfaction isn't the cumshot. It's lasting for a long time with the lady.
When you cum prematurely with the lady, then you aren't yet satisfied. And that's when you want to have a second ride.
The cumshot by itself doesn't satisfy you. But when you get to ride the lady for a long time, then this does satisfy you. If you spend a good half-hour or so getting to know the chick with your dick, then your cumshot at the end of it probably will be satisfying enough. It's unlikely that you will want to have a second ride with her, unless this chick rejuvenates your dick.
This is because your cumshot lasts only a few seconds. Your pleasure is limited there. But your pleasure in getting to know the chick with your dick is limited only by how long you last with her. You can potentially get a lot more pleasure from nailing the lady for a long time, than from cumming with her at the end.
Cumshot is just a convenient way for the lady to tell the guy that he is finished and done, regardless of whether he is satisfied or not.
From a guy's point of view, it makes more sense to agree with the lady about how long you get to stay with your cock inside her pussy, than about the number of cumshots you get to have with her. Because you need about 30 minutes of your cock inside the lady's pussy to be truly and fully satisfied with her. And the only way to be sure that you will actually get this much time with the lady is to agree with her about this. And I don't mean 30 minutes of non-stop pounding. Sometimes you just want to go balls-deep inside the lady and relax with her like that. Pound her for a while. Then rest balls-deep inside her again.
It's pretty hard to relax and take it easy inside the lady, when you have no agreement with her about how long you can stay inside her. Because the lady can potentially end it at her whim, without a good reason. And this is the kind of thing that leads to a premature ejaculation. It's like you are taking a risk by making it last. You need to do her hard and fast.
And a good solution to this problem is to agree with the lady about how long you get to stay with your cock inside her pussy, rather than about cumshots or something else that's not directly related to your satisfaction.
In what way is this an evaluation if you do not include a field report in it?There is a field report in it. You mean I should write my own? I did write a few for addict in previous posts. The spirit of that post was the dismiss the year old reports and bring a much more accurate picture as mongers keep showing up there with high expectations. It's obvious that prose was too difficult to understand so I'll try to keep it simple for those who don't want to read through the forum posts and past field reports: addict sucks.
I booked full service in VIP room for 2500. She also does lingam massage, whatever that is, and costumes like nurse or schoolgirl for pervs. Sounds like fun.
Only problem is that halfway through the oil massage some worker next door started on the pneumatic hammer. It felt like he was going to burst through the wall any second, so loud he was. Worst thing is the noise wasn't even regular, you could just picture him starting and stopping and dialing the speed up and down. The least romantic setup ever for a VIP room. I was sure I wouldn't even be able to get it up, so annoyed I was. Oh boy did Pink prove me wrong.Which VIP room had all the noise? Were you in the Kiss building or the honeybee one? I'd prefer to avoid that room for sure, I hate that and had to hear a lot of it when I went to the old analisa. I got the standard room at honeybee last week with Pink around the same time, no construction noise.
Nice report, Eric. The noise from next door hotel renovation may not go away for quite some time. Visit the shop at evening times would avoid the problem. The noise is impacting all three sister shops (Honey Bee, Kiss, BKK Passion) which are in the same alley.
I reported some days ago about Pink / Honey Bee. The session was really good and I like her very much. After all was done I got her LINE and told her I would come back to her next time. But recently she quietly dropped me from her LINE! Ha, I guess that I won't go back to see her again.
And now Ladies and Gentlemen, well just Gentlemen I guess, for something completely different: yes, an actual field report. Ta-daa!
Pink is off on Sundays. Makes you wonder what night club she freelances at Saturday nights.
I booked her before the shop opened and they told she probably wouldn't be in at the open, and to come at 11:30. Not the early riser, then. There was another chick on the front couch doing her make-up who looked pretty fuckable, so it looks like Honeybee have a solid line-up overall. Anyway, Pink showed up, with a cute bright smile, pretty chuffed at having been booked first thing in the morning. She said: I am Pink!
I booked full service in VIP room for 2500. She also does lingam massage, whatever that is, and costumes like nurse or schoolgirl for pervs. Sounds like fun.
Only problem is that halfway through the oil massage some worker next door started on the pneumatic hammer. It felt like he was going to burst through the wall any second, so loud he was. Worst thing is the noise wasn't even regular, you could just picture him starting and stopping and dialing the speed up and down. The least romantic setup ever for a VIP room. I was sure I wouldn't even be able to get it up, so annoyed I was. Oh boy did Pink prove me wrong...
Thanks much. You the man! Have had all but First, and View. Time for some new experiences! For me Golf is still the only gold standard without a kid still working. Would be great to find others.View is the only one of those Snow White girls I haven't tried. She was recommended to me by the mamasan as a baby-free girl but was a bit too old for my tastes when I saw her, about the same age as Emmy I would say. She's often busy or booked though so I'm surprised there are no reviews of her around.
First seemed enthusiastic when I saw her but I didn't choose her because she's too tall for my tastes.
I think counting cumshots is a wrong way to go about it. Because the key to satisfaction isn't the cumshot. It's lasting for a long time with the lady.
When you cum prematurely with the lady, then you aren't yet satisfied. And that's when you want to have a second ride.
The cumshot by itself doesn't satisfy you. But when you get to ride the lady for a long time, then this does satisfy you. If you spend a good half-hour or so getting to know the chick with your dick, then your cumshot at the end of it probably will be satisfying enough. It's unlikely that you will want to have a second ride with her, unless this chick rejuvenates your dick.
This is because your cumshot lasts only a few seconds. Your pleasure is limited there. But your pleasure in getting to know the chick with your dick is limited only by how long you last with her. You can potentially get a lot more pleasure from nailing the lady for a long time, than from cumming with her at the end.
Cumshot is just a convenient way for the lady to tell the guy that he is finished and done, regardless of whether he is satisfied or not.
From a guy's point of view, it makes more sense to agree with the lady about how long you get to stay with your cock inside her pussy, than about the number of cumshots you get to have with her. Because you need about 30 minutes of your cock inside the lady's pussy to be truly and fully satisfied with her. And the only way to be sure that you will actually get this much time with the lady is to agree with her about this. And I don't mean 30 minutes of non-stop pounding. Sometimes you just want to go balls-deep inside the lady and relax with her like that. Pound her for a while. Then rest balls-deep inside her again.
It's pretty hard to relax and take it easy inside the lady, when you have no agreement with her about how long you can stay inside her. Because the lady can potentially end it at her whim, without a good reason. And this is the kind of thing that leads to a premature ejaculation. It's like you are taking a risk by making it last. You need to do her hard and fast.
And a good solution to this problem is to agree with the lady about how long you get to stay with your cock inside her pussy, rather than about cumshots or something else that's not directly related to your satisfaction.Dan, it's different for different people. For you that may work. For me draining my balls twice in 90 minutes leaves me satisfied for quite a time. 7 day to 10 days currently. If I pop once I am still revved up no matter how long I am "inside" the gal. I have never had an issue with a PSE gal complaining about being in her too long. And that includes prolonged sessions.
View is the only one of those Snow White girls I haven't tried. She was recommended to me by the mamasan as a baby-free girl but was a bit too old for my tastes when I saw her, about the same age as Emmy I would say. She's often busy or booked though so I'm surprised there are no reviews of her around.
First seemed enthusiastic when I saw her but I didn't choose her because she's too tall for my tastes.You have tried everyone but View. You must be a well known happy customer at SW! I had a good session with Benz and a great session with Mei (name on their website is My) more than a year ago. I wanted to see Mei / My again next time. Any comments on her?
You have tried everyone but View. You must be a well known happy customer at SW! I had a good session with Benz and a great session with Mei (name on their website is My) more than a year ago. I wanted to see Mei / My again next time. Any comments on her?I am very well known there but mainly because I go very often to see Ninja. I meant of the 4 girls who I know to be A+ and baby-free, View is the only one I haven't tried. I haven't tried Mei either. How is her body?
I am very well known there but mainly because I go very often to see Ninja. I meant of the 4 girls who I know to be A+ and baby-free, View is the only one I haven't tried. I haven't tried Mei either. How is her body?My has a very good body and I must say one of the most beautiful snatches I have ever seen. I could munch that all day. She is not A+, but rims, and provides all the other essentials. She kind of a funny way about her. By funny I mean a very short attention span. During BBBJ she will do something that feels very good and just abruptly stop even if you ask her to continue. Quite quirky and probably why I have not been a repeat customer.
Eric Swiss
12-21-16, 21:51
Which VIP room had all the noise? Were you in the Kiss building or the honeybee one? I'd prefer to avoid that room for sure, I hate that and had to hear a lot of it when I went to the old analisa. I got the standard room at honeybee last week with Pink around the same time, no construction noise.The kiss building, 3rd floor. Next time I'm staying at honeybee like you.
Eric Swiss
12-21-16, 22:03
Nice report, Eric. The noise from next door hotel renovation may not go away for quite some time. Visit the shop at evening times would avoid the problem. The noise is impacting all three sister shops (Honey Bee, Kiss, BKK Passion) which are in the same alley.
I reported some days ago about Pink / Honey Bee. The session was really good and I like her very much. After all was done I got her LINE and told her I would come back to her next time. But recently she quietly dropped me from her LINE! Ha, I guess that I won't go back to see her again.I wouldn't get offended. Mamasan probably made her do it. Mamasan wants her cut. Only fair: Mamasan's got to pay the talent scout. And no talent scout, no Pink.
I used to have a regular at honeybee I would see a lot. I never asked for her line, despite seeing her many times and this would make the scheduling slightly easier. I think because I got a professional, friendly, but non-GFE vibe from her + I was getting tired of adding LINE IDs and having to hide them from the actual GF haha. Anyway, as it turns out, said regular has a Thai BF who also works at honeybee too, so that's a bit awkward and probably good I kept it all professional as well and didn't have my LINE in her phone.
And also before that regular girl, there was another girl who worked there awhile ago called Dao, who was actually quite stunning and young, certainly for an oilly girl. The only reason I even found the place was because I saw this girl sitting inside when I was walking by and she was a head turner. During some kind of pillow talk, I got the impression she was looking for a falang BF because she was very friendly / talkative, and spoke good english and I think she said she had one before, and was asking if I used Tinder. Not sure how I got her LINE ID but I never contacted her and she left honeybee somewhat shortly after I started going there. However, most all the other girls I see currently there, are rather professional and I get the impression that they probably have actual Thai boyfriends as they don't speak much English and prefer to speak Thai. The only girl there I found to provide DFK was Fha, and I have seen about 9 of the girls there. I didn't add her LINE nor repeat with her as I actually don't go there for GFE, but for tantric / lingam and she didn't really seem to provide that or be good at it.
So, morale of the story for that place. I think a lot of the prettier ones there have Thai boyfriends. If they are friendly / GFE / DFK (most aren't GFE in my experience) then I think getting LINE is on the table, if that's what your into. The Thai people want to avoid awkward loss of face for both parties so they will accept a LINE request (in person) but delete it after hoping that you get the idea at a more convenient time. Also she might have a Thai BF nearby so better not to give out the wrong impression too, and get involved with bad drama. Anyway if I really want to book one the girls there, I would just phone in. That has worked well for me as I have good rapport with the mamasan so that's a good thing in the long run actually. Same mamasan, but girls rotate out after about a year.
Gypsie King
12-22-16, 13:37
Hi,
I have been to Mango two days ago and had a session with Prae, when I inquired about using her A+ option, she told me it was now an added 500 thb. It looks like the previous report was correct. Also I checked at the reception desk and didn't see a sign advertising this new option.
Hi,
I have been to Mango two days ago and had a session with Prae, when I inquired about using her A+ option, she told me it was now an added 500 thb. It looks like the previous report was correct. Also I checked at the reception desk and didn't see a sign advertising this new option.Are you sure Bongkot has such a fee? Bamboo has had a 500 baht fee from its opening, but I was unaware Bongkot also introduced one (it would have to be recent as a few months ago there was no such fee at Bongkot).
Christian G
12-22-16, 14:36
Are you sure Bongkot has such a fee? Bamboo has had a 500 baht fee from its opening, but I was unaware Bongkot also introduced one (it would have to be recent as a few months ago there was no such fee at Bongkot).Me too, never heard that Bongkot have a 500 baht fee for A+. Maybe a typing mistake?!
Roaming Viking
12-22-16, 14:39
Hi, When is Ninja coming back? I stopped by the other day and was told she had gone home for a while. I also heard that she had had a less than happy encounter with some big dick farang who had hurt her A* I hope she is doing well and hope I will meet her when I am back in town.
Greetings!
My has a very good body and I must say one of the most beautiful snatches I have ever seen. I could munch that all day. She is not A+, but rims, and provides all the other essentials. She kind of a funny way about her. By funny I mean a very short attention span. During BBBJ she will do something that feels very good and just abruptly stop even if you ask her to continue. Quite quirky and probably why I have not been a repeat customer.
Hi, When is Ninja coming back? I stopped by the other day and was told she had gone home for a while. I also heard that she had had a less than happy encounter with some big dick farang who had hurt her A* I hope she is doing well and hope I will meet her when I am back in town.
Greetings!She was supposed to be back this Monday but I think she's probably reconsidering what she wants to do with her life. The only thing they're saying in Snow White is that she's still in Isaan, which is also what they said when Nonny quit. I don't expect to see either of them back any time soon, unfortunately.
Member #4591
12-22-16, 15:15
Hi, When is Ninja coming back? I stopped by the other day and was told she had gone home for a while. I also heard that she had had a less than happy encounter with some big dick farang who had hurt her A* I hope she is doing well and hope I will meet her when I am back in town.
Greetings!Stop with all this BS about being too injured to work. She went home to celebrate her graduation from University.
Hi,
I have been to Mango two days ago and had a session with Prae, when I inquired about using her A+ option, she told me it was now an added 500 thb. It looks like the previous report was correct. Also I checked at the reception desk and didn't see a sign advertising this new option.They're probably not going to make a big thing about it but on their laminated card there's definitely at least one option that mentions the 500 baht surcharge. It's called something like the XXXX special and is a 2 hour option for 3000 baht which includes Nuru or something and A+.
Did you pay the surcharge by the way?
Parkville,
Thank you for the in-depth analysis. It makes a lot of sense. You have seen a lot of girls at Honeybee, do you have comments on Bo? Recently she came back to the shop after a long holiday. I am attempted to book her for a session.
Thanks.
I used to have a regular at honeybee I would see a lot. I never asked for her line, despite seeing her many times and this would make the scheduling slightly easier. I think because I got a professional, friendly, but non-GFE vibe from her + I was getting tired of adding LINE IDs and having to hide them from the actual GF haha. Anyway, as it turns out, said regular has a Thai BF who also works at honeybee too, so that's a bit awkward and probably good I kept it all professional as well and didn't have my LINE in her phone.
And also before that regular girl, there was another girl who worked there awhile ago called Dao, who was actually quite stunning and young, certainly for an oilly girl...
Stop with all this BS about being too injured to work. She went home to celebrate her graduation from University.I know that already but should you be sharing it? She pretends to her customers (including me) that she stopped studying after high school. I just go along with it. She's entitled to separate her working and personal life.
Her graduation ceremony was last week and she was due back on Monday. Maybe her graduation day has caused her to rethink her life.
Dan, it's different for different people. For you that may work. For me draining my balls twice in 90 minutes leaves me satisfied for quite a time. 7 day to 10 days currently. If I pop once I am still revved up no matter how long I am "inside" the gal. I have never had an issue with a PSE gal complaining about being in her too long. And that includes prolonged sessions.I'd say that waiting for 7 to 10 days, without any sex at all, is liable to make any guy insatiable with his girl. (I assume there is no masturbation either.)
It's true that in some situations, such as yours, you need to agree with the lady about both the time you get to ride her and the number of cumshots you get to have with her. And at some places, the ladies might be okay with letting you have as much as you want on both accounts.
But it's not realistic for most guys to restrict themselves to such places. Because it's not just about sex. It's also about the looks. You are bound to see some sexy chick, whom you want to nail with your dick, at some other place. And sure, she might be more difficult to deal with, than some other less good-looking lady. But you still want to nail her. And that's why you go after her anyway.
My point here is that counting cumshots can put a guy at a disadvantage, especially when you get only one cumshot with the lady. Because the lady might get you off quickly and be done with you, before you are truly and fully satisfied with her. Which is a bad experience for a guy to have.
But this situation won't arise, if you agree with the lady about how much time you get to spend with your cock inside her pussy. If your agreement is 30 minutes, for example. Then it's cum or no cum, you aren't yet done. You go right back inside for another ride. And it's all fair and square, as far as both you and the lady are concerned.
The problem here is that you and the lady have a conflict of interest. The lady would rather get you off quickly and be done with you. Because this is less work for the same amount of money. But you want the opposite. You want to make it last. Because when you pay a certain amount of money, then you want to have a certain amount of experience.
Perhaps one-cumshot might be a reasonable limit for a lady to set for her guy, provided that she also agrees to let you stay inside her for a good half-hour. Because in this situation, you will take it easy with the lady to make it last. You won't destroy her pussy by pounding her all the time. Which is what the lady wants. And you get a part of what you want too. Because you get to make it last, provided that you keep control and don't destroy the pussy of your girl.
Member #4591
12-22-16, 16:26
I know that already but should you be sharing it? She pretends to her customers (including me) that she stopped studying after high school. I just go along with it. She's entitled to separate her working and personal life.
Her graduation ceremony was last week and she was due back on Monday. Maybe her graduation day has caused her to rethink her life.If the post is a public post on Facebook, it can be shared. I'm just curious, if she pretends to even you that she stopped studying after high school, how did you know about it? Anyways, this particular photo is from a public post and profile shared with all her regular customers. If you noticed, I cut out the top with her name. At the end of the day, it's just a public photo of her with no other identifying marks. Anyways, she'll be back. They all come back when they miss the money.
If the post is a public post on Facebook, it can be shared. I'm just curious, if she pretends to even you that she stopped studying after high school, how did you know about it? Anyways, this particular photo is from a public post and profile shared with all her regular customers. If you noticed, I cut out the top with her name. At the end of the day, it's just a public photo of her with no other identifying marks. Anyways, she'll be back. They all come back when they miss the money.I've known about that Facebook page for a while but she's not the one who gave it to me. I didn't realise she shared it with her regular customers. I've always found it odd that she's got pictures of herself at Snow White on a page she shares with her friends and family. Could you or someone else send her a private message on Facebook or Line asking her when she's coming back? I never share contact details with P4 P girls.
Eric Swiss
12-22-16, 17:19
Anyway, I walked past Addict, ignoring their "more girls inside" sales pitch and headed over to Orient. Where I saw a really hot girl (and pretty good / great service, not PSE) named Pope (she pronounces it Bo-Pei). Pope is like a hot (thai) girl next door type of look. Down to earth but hot body, attractive / hot face. The pictures on their website don't do her much justice. Also, her tits are all natural and really well sized for a Thai girl. Also FYI, other girls there worth checking out: Donut and Tan. Tan is quite good service-wise, and Donut is a nice girl, not all bitter like that one you saw at Addict.Well, maybe we're not talking about the same Addict. Where else can you find 11 girls in the line-up at 11 am? I'm not sure Addict is competitive past 5 pm, but I never made that point.
Having said that, I was curious about your championing of Orient, so I decided to look it up. I realized that it was the place I walked by many times on my way to Addict. I never walked in, because I felt the girls on the outside bench were too eager to lure in the unsuspecting customer, so I smelled a scam, but given that you shared with this community 3 specific names of worthy girls, I figured I'd give it a random shot. As you can imagine, this being Thailand, none of the 3 were present. I had 4 girls to choose from: three dogs and Lisa. Petite spinner with nice curves, a bright smile and a winning attitude! I was the first customer of the day.
I picked her and I am glad to say the VIP room with large bathtub is, for a change, completely noise-free. She is a winner. Nice natural tits. One of the rare girls in the market who offers a tit-job without being asked to. Downside was the CBJ, but I had my eyes on the prize, which was the FS, so I let her do whatever built her comfort.
Intromission was somewhat difficult, so I gently rubbed my thumb on her clit, and everything was better after that. Some baby damage, but not much, and quite frankly I didn't care anymore at that point. I genuinely think I made her cum in the cowgirl position, based on a few clues that happened before and after. I achieved a more-athletic-than-usual orgasm myself by taking her doggy-style. She's from Sukhotai.
On the way out, I saw another hottie who looked like Pope's picture on the website, but I did not confirm her name in front of Lisa: running the jealousy plot has its limitations. All in all, a good addition to the roster, but it looks like they can't get many of their A-team out of bed before noon.
Are you sure Bongkot has such a fee? Bamboo has had a 500 baht fee from its opening, but I was unaware Bongkot also introduced one (it would have to be recent as a few months ago there was no such fee at Bongkot).I'd say that 500 B for A+ is a very reasonable surcharge to have. This is a positive development for both ladies and guys.
Because now, instead of looking at it as extra work, the ladies will see it as a way to make extra money.
Instead of discouraging guys from asking for A+, these ladies will now try to convert their pussy guys into A+ guys. It's like you just need to say the word, and the lady will pound you with her ass in reverse-cowgirl. This is a great situation for guys to have.
Member #4591
12-22-16, 17:58
I've known about that Facebook page for a while but she's not the one who gave it to me. I didn't realise she shared it with her regular customers. I've always found it odd that she's got pictures of herself at Snow White on a page she shares with her friends and family. Could you or someone else send her a private message on Facebook or Line asking her when she's coming back? I never share contact details with P4 P girls.Actually, she has 2 Facebook pages, one for one circle of friends and one for another. I asked her the same question and did not get an answer. How did you find the one Facebook of hers? She must of told you her nickname because it's not under the name Ninja, but she uses her family name on both pages and neither Facebook is linked to her phone number. If you PM me the name she knows you by, I'll ask her if I can give you her phone number. Of course this is at a risk of letting her know about our little secret here so I'll have to make up a cover story about how we know each other.
Instead of discouraging guys from asking for A+, these ladies will now try to convert their pussy guys into A+ guys. It's like you just need to say the word, and the lady will pound you with her ass in reverse-cowgirl. This is a great situation for guys to have.Even in shops where A+ is normal and free, I don't find girls offering it to me if I don't mention / request it, more than once every two years. LOL Hence I don't even know which girls provide A+, for most part.
If they were to receive a money bonus, I could be getting a lot more offers, perhaps. Might actually take it more, if the girl seemed really keen on it.
Anyway, I walked past Addict, ignoring their "more girls inside" sales pitch and headed over to Orient. Where I saw a really hot girl (and pretty good / great service, not PSE) named Pope (she pronounces it Bo-Pei). Pope is like a hot (thai) girl next door type of look. Down to earth but hot body, attractive / hot face. Seems this name is not all that uncommon. Boss Massage had a "Pupe" I think was their spelling. A tiny girl. It was pronounced something like Bpoo-pay I believe. I am not 100% sure since have not seen the Thai spelling. So yes agreed it has two syllables and sounds nothing like Pope at all.
Seems this name is not all that uncommon. Boss Massage had a "Pupe" I think was their spelling. A tiny girl. It was pronounced something like Bpoo-pay I believe. I am not 100% sure since have not seen the Thai spelling. So yes agreed it has two syllables and sounds nothing like Pope at all.Yeah I don't think she is going to get a Papal appointment anytime soon LOL.
I'm stuck in Thailand for 10 days due to a visa run. This give me plenty of time to try a lot of places out. Folks, give me a list of at least 10 places to visit! I'm considering a hotel near Soi cowboy. I may also consider a few days in Pattaya.
Recently I noticed some report and comment posts on Honey Bee and Kiss. I am wondering if anyone has noticed New Massage off Soi 33 http://newmassages.com/store , some girls on their website are listed on Honey Bee, Kiss and Passion on Soi 22 (Soda, A, Cake Fha etc.). Is New Massage another sister shop of Honey Bee? I hope that someone may bring some light on this.
The Man Sam
12-23-16, 00:21
Hi fellow mongers,
I need some advice from you guys. Just had a lot of fun at my friend's bachelor party in Sydney so my wallet is not feeling too great at the moment. I'll be in Bangkok for one day next week and I'd like to know what's the most value for money MP around. I've tried to RTFF but there are so many damn choices that I'm pretty much overwhelmed with information after reading 10 pages. So yeah, hook a brother up with some info please. I'm more interested in service / enthusiasm than looks. Let me know the damage please and the details if possible (number of shots, services offered, etc.).
I'd say that 500 B for A+ is a very reasonable surcharge to have. This is a positive development for both ladies and guys.
Because now, instead of looking at it as extra work, the ladies will see it as a way to make extra money.
Instead of discouraging guys from asking for A+, these ladies will now try to convert their pussy guys into A+ guys. It's like you just need to say the word, and the lady will pound you with her ass in reverse-cowgirl. This is a great situation for guys to have.Nice tangent you went off on, but do you have anything to contribute regarding my question, which you were supposedly responding to, about whether Bongkot has introduced a 500 baht fee for anal?
Jimmy Boy 99
12-23-16, 04:27
I'm stuck in Thailand for 10 days due to a visa run. This give me plenty of time to try a lot of places out. Folks, give me a list of at least 10 places to visit! I'm considering a hotel near Soi cowboy. I may also consider a few days in Pattaya.Look on these websites:
Bangkok.
http://bangkokredeye.com/
https://www.bangkok-nightlife-guide.com/
Pattaya.
http://pattaya-funtown.com/gogo_pattaya/
http://pattayaredeye.com/
http://www.pattayasexguide.com/
http://lovepattayathailand.com/pattaya-nightlife/
Crocodilexp
12-23-16, 06:15
I'd say that 500 B for A+ is a very reasonable surcharge to have. This is a positive development for both ladies and guys.
Because now, instead of looking at it as extra work, the ladies will see it as a way to make extra money.This leads to the a-la-carte approach to sex services, and I don't like it the least bit. Seems OK if it stops with A+, but it's a slippery slope leading to surcharges for BBBJ, CIM, DFK, DATY, taking off the bra, an extra shot. You can make the identical argument for each of those.
PSE shops are supposed to be about the girl giving you the best service possible within the time you paid for. Of course, some girls are uncomfortable with A+ and that's fine, it's always good to ask upfront anyway. However, if the girl is willing to do A+, turning it into an upsell item is never to the customer's benefit. With a girl who already does A+, you pay more (you lose), with a girl who would only do it for the extra money, you get bad, unenthusiastic and reluctant A+ that she'd rather not do (you lose again).
Crocodilexp
12-23-16, 06:26
But this situation won't arise, if you agree with the lady about how much time you get to spend with your cock inside her pussy. If your agreement is 30 minutes, for example. Then it's cum or no cum, you aren't yet done. You go right back inside for another ride. And it's all fair and square, as far as both you and the lady are concerned.
The overwhelming majority of guys (a) don't have supremely good control over when they'll cum to make best use of the exact allotted time and (b) lose interest and the erection after they shoot and don't care to keep their dick inside the pussy for long after they cum.
If what you're referring to is making a deal with only time specified with unlimited cumshots, I'm all for that, but in that case you MUST clearly agree on unlimited cumshots, otherwise the woman will always assume one. I read somewhere that an average guy lasts 2-4 minutes, so clearly this is not satisfying except for those who enjoy keeping their (usually soft) dick inside for the other 55 minutes of the agreed hour.
You seem to have unusual preferences, and that's fine, but it's unrealistic to assume others people are the same.
I find time-based arrangements a bit misleading, since most people are after the action, not after time. In most restaurants you pay per dish, not per time spent there. Sure, there are some quirky Japanese buffets that charge you per time, but in those it's always unlimited action, if they also assumed only one dish within the given time, they'd have no customers.
I'm stuck in Thailand for 10 days due to a visa run. This give me plenty of time to try a lot of places out. Folks, give me a list of at least 10 places to visit! I'm considering a hotel near Soi cowboy. I may also consider a few days in Pattaya.Some places to look in Bangkok. I suggest that you do not need to take a girl in any of these unless she is really exciting:
Oily MPs: Tulip, Snow White, Mango, Orient, and whole of Soi 24/1 (for just quick look for any talent).
Soapies: La Belle, Darling are not far away.
Bars: Crazy House, Baccara, Suzie Wong Lesbian show, Twisters, Billboard, Rainbow 5. Daytime: Stumble Inn or Morning Night.
Recently I noticed some report and comment posts on Honey Bee and Kiss. I am wondering if anyone has noticed New Massage off Soi 33 http://newmassages.com/store , some girls on their website are listed on Honey Bee, Kiss and Passion on Soi 22 (Soda, A, Cake Fha etc.). Is New Massage another sister shop of Honey Bee? I hope that someone may bring some light on this.I have visited New Massage. I believed the owner used to be affiliated with Dream Heaven next door. Prices seem a bit higher at New. The girl I liked is not pictured on the website. I did not yet spot any other beauty there in attendance despite some of the website pics looking okay To good (with shopping). Real girl sometimes does not live up to the pic I guess and some were just not there at the time.
I don't know if New is affiliated with the other MPs in Soi 22. Does it really matter? Clearly the girls cannot be in all 4 shops at the same time. Perhaps they show up at particular shows when a booking occurs, or do outcall.
Take into account that sometimes MPs show girls who don't really work there any longer, however that may not be the case.
This leads to the a-la-carte approach to sex services, and I don't like it the least bit. Seems OK if it stops with A+, but it's a slippery slope leading to surcharges for BBBJ, CIM, DFK, DATY, taking off the bra, an extra shot. You can make the identical argument for each of those.
PSE shops are supposed to be about the girl giving you the best service possible within the time you paid for. Of course, some girls are uncomfortable with A+ and that's fine, it's always good to ask upfront anyway. However, if the girl is willing to do A+, turning it into an upsell item is never to the customer's benefit. With a girl who already does A+, you pay more (you lose), with a girl who would only do it for the extra money, you get bad, unenthusiastic and reluctant A+ that she'd rather not do (you lose again).The a la carte menu reminds me of Club K5 in Prague. When I entered the club a number of years ago I was told a menu of services with prices attached, including such things as DFK, etc. I suppose it was no coincidence I went there once, and only once as it made the sex seem that much more like a mere business transaction.
As to the 500 baht surcharge for A+, I have a few ideas as to why a couple of places have added it. The most obvious is prices at oilies have remained constant for more than ten years, and it might be an attempt to extract a bit more money from customers without a general price increase. But the less obvious possibility stems from the fact (at least I think it is a fact) that many of the PSE oilies have fewer girls these days who are willing to do A+. This might reflect that with the improving economy it is becoming more difficult to get girls to work in these places, and even more difficult getting girls willing to do A+. But I suspect the non A+ girls get significantly fewer customers, and for this reason being a non-A+ girl may not be so profitable. Perhaps the thinking is if there is a 500 baht surcharge for A+, more guys will simply go with standard service thereby bringing more business to the non-A+ girls, in turn making it easier to recruit and retain them. I'm not sure whether this is how things actually work out, but it might be one rationale for why some of the shops are charging extra for A+, I. E. , in an attempt to direct some business to girls who do not do A+ so they do not leave their employment owing to lack of customers.
Just an idea that may or may not be true.
Crazy4Thai
12-23-16, 08:42
Hi fellow mongers,
I need some advice from you guys. Just had a lot of fun at my friend's bachelor party in Sydney so my wallet is not feeling too great at the moment. I'll be in Bangkok for one day next week and I'd like to know what's the most value for money MP around. I've tried to RTFF but there are so many damn choices that I'm pretty much overwhelmed with information after reading 10 pages. So yeah, hook a brother up with some info please. I'm more interested in service / enthusiasm than looks. Let me know the damage please and the details if possible (number of shots, services offered, etc.).I do realize that you specified MP. My own experience on value for money in general is the FL talent. It can be a crapshoot like in any venue but I've pulled 2 very good providers from Nana parking this week. 1,000 baht for one and 1,500 for the other. I might have negotiated on the 2nd one but I found her to be a very attractive spinner. No baby damage on either. The 2nd one claims to be 30. Only the tiny crows feet suggest otherwise. She has the body of an 18 yo and the appetite of a 32 yo. Both experiences surpassed my 2 most recent trips to oilies and at one half and one third of the price.
As to the 500 baht surcharge for A+, I have a few ideas as to why a couple of places have added it. The most obvious is prices at oilies have remained constant for more than ten years, and it might be an attempt to extract a bit more money from customers without a general price increase. But the less obvious possibility stems from the fact (at least I think it is a fact) that many of the PSE oilies have fewer girls these days who are willing to do A+. This might reflect that with the improving economy it is becoming more difficult to get girls to work in these places, and even more difficult getting girls willing to do A+. But I suspect the non A+ girls get significantly fewer customers, and for this reason being a non-A+ girl may not be so profitable. Perhaps the thinking is if there is a 500 baht surcharge for A+, more guys will simply go with standard service thereby bringing more business to the non-A+ girls, in turn making it easier to recruit and retain them. I'm not sure whether this is how things actually work out, but it might be one rationale for why some of the shops are charging extra for A+, I. E. , in an attempt to direct some business to girls who do not do A+ so they do not leave their employment owing to lack of customers.
I don't like all the extras upsell and yes I agree, that lack of a price hike for the girls is part of the problem. At many shops girls get 1400 from the take (yes not even 1500) and it is not just worthwhile to include anal for this price, and these non PSE shops have few girls doing Anal. At one shop the girl said her take was only 1300 (unverified). Girls also get charged various deductions and fines.
I reckon the PSE shops, if they had an all in price, could set two tiers of pricing. The 1500 FS girls, and a slightly higher number for the superstars and A+ girls, but still have the prices as all inclusive so upsell would not be necessary. I think the superstar and A+ girls do deserve to make more than the ordinary girls. Many customers don't tip, so tipping does not allow best girls to make more money reliably. Perhaps the higher tier girls could make 1800 instead of 1500?
Just a wild idea, although we note that some shops (Mitu) already have special gold or platinum class girls for a different amount to standard girls. Pricing tiers has been there so many years already with soapies of course (without any relevance to A+)
Actually, she has 2 Facebook pages, one for one circle of friends and one for another. I asked her the same question and did not get an answer. How did you find the one Facebook of hers? She must of told you her nickname because it's not under the name Ninja, but she uses her family name on both pages and neither Facebook is linked to her phone number. If you PM me the name she knows you by, I'll ask her if I can give you her phone number. Of course this is at a risk of letting her know about our little secret here so I'll have to make up a cover story about how we know each other.I've seen the Facebook pages of lots of the girls at Snow White, including Nonny. That's how I knew about her Korean boyfriend. I like stalking them but I never contact them. Snow White is closed for 3 days over the new year so Ninja's clearly not going to come back before then. Given that she's a graduate she could make more money as an escort couldn't she? Just needs to improve her English skills. I'd be pleasantly surprised to see her back at Snow White.
I'd say that 500 B for A+ is a very reasonable surcharge to have. This is a positive development for both ladies and guys.
Because now, instead of looking at it as extra work, the ladies will see it as a way to make extra money.
Instead of discouraging guys from asking for A+, these ladies will now try to convert their pussy guys into A+ guys. It's like you just need to say the word, and the lady will pound you with her ass in reverse-cowgirl. This is a great situation for guys to have.Positive? I don't think so. As LA Guy said; it's a slippery slope. Next thing you know it will be all a al carte. Nope, "all girls do everything" which was Saeng's mantra is the way to go. Most of these gals are quite lazy and won't care about the 500 Baht.
Even in shops where A+ is normal and free, I don't find girls offering it to me if I don't mention / request it, more than once every two years. LOL Hence I don't even know which girls provide A+, for most part.
If they were to receive a money bonus, I could be getting a lot more offers, perhaps. Might actually take it more, if the girl seemed really keen on it.Yes, when A+ is free, then this is like extra work for no extra money. A lot of women probably see this kind of thing as unfair. Which discourages them from doing it. It's like you need to pursue the chick with your dick to get her to do A+ with you. And even then, she might say 'No' to you, just because she thinks it's unfair.
But when you introduce a 500 B surcharge for A+, then this changes the situation completely. Because now the lady has something to gain from getting you to go A+ on her. It's like you aren't safe with the A+ lady anymore as a pussy-only guy. She will tease you with her nice ass and make corny jokes about you doing her A+.
Christian G
12-23-16, 11:36
Perhaps the thinking is if there is a 500 baht surcharge for A+, more guys will simply go with standard service thereby bringing more business to the non-A+ girls, in turn making it easier to recruit and retain them. Or perhaps guys who are looking for A+ will go to Snow White, Tulip, Sky and will avoid the 500 baht surcharge, everything is possible.
Positive? I don't think so. As LA Guy said; it's a slippery slope. Next thing you know it will be all a al carte. Nope, "all girls do everything" which was Saeng's mantra is the way to go. Most of these gals are quite lazy and won't care about the 500 Baht.Agree, isn't positive at all, a-la-carte menu like FKK isn't good.
Positive? I don't think so. As LA Guy said; it's a slippery slope. Next thing you know it will be all a al carte. Nope, "all girls do everything" which was Saeng's mantra is the way to go. Most of these gals are quite lazy and won't care about the 500 Baht.The ladies probably also say that that it's a slippery slope, when they do A+ for free. First it's A+ for free. Then guys will want something else for free too. And eventually it will get so bad that it won't be worthwhile for them to do P4P anymore.
You need to recognize that the ladies and guys have opposing interests to some extent. Which requires a compromise, where both sides get a part of what they want. Or else it's no deal.
Sure, it can be a slippery slope either for guys or for ladies, depending on who gets to have their way. But this kind of thing destroys the market. The only way the market can work is when you have a compromise. And 500B for A+ is a very reasonable compromise that does something for both ladies and guys.
The thing that makes A+ different from everything else is that virtually all ladies normally do everything else, but only some ladies do A+. A+ is a special service. It's not like everything else. And that's why it needs to be recognized as separate and different in terms of compensation for the ladies. Or else A+ is not even on the menu, let alone the lady encouraging you to go A+ on her.
Christian G
12-23-16, 12:06
The ladies probably also say that that it's a slippery slope, when they do A+ for free. First it's A+ for free. For Free? LOL you pay 1500 baht for her service, this is not free. No one force the girls to do A+, if a girl provide A+ is her choice.
The thing that makes A+ different from everything else is that virtually all ladies normally do everything else, but only some ladies do A+. Not true, not all girls provide CIM or rimjob, so girls could start to ask extra tip for CIM and rimjob also. Or make a BBBJ extra, on another board I read a report from guy that got a CBJ from BB in Cherry Massage.
A+ is a special service. It's not like everything else. And that's why it needs to be recognized as separate and different in terms of compensation for the ladies. This is just your idea, IME (I always go for A+) when girls not ask the tip for anal they always provide a good A+ service, when the girls ask for tip often is mean they don't want to do and try to earn more money for a bad service.
The overwhelming majority of guys (a) don't have supremely good control over when they'll cum to make best use of the exact allotted time ....I'd say that the majority of guys actually have extremely good control. It's just that they aren't in a good position to use it with their girl.
Virtually all guys masturbate, according to any sex-statistics you read. And you probably know this even from your own experience that you can make your pleasure last, rather than just do it hard and fast. It's not difficult for any guy to make his masturbation pleasure last for some time and not cum right away.
You can use the same technique to nail the lady with your dick. You just need to do the lady the same way you do it yourself with your hand. Which isn't hard to do, when you are on top of the lady, and you are doing all the work with her.
Basically, it's all about taking frequent breaks, instead of doing it non-stop all the time. You take a break, when start coming close to orgasm, then do it again. That's what enables you to last for a long time. And I think guys masturbate like this all the time, when they watch porn. This is something every guy knows how to do.
The thing that stops guys from lasting for a long time with their lady like this is the social situation during their penetration. You have no agreement with the lady about how long you can stay with your cock inside her pussy. And you have no idea if she will let you go back inside, if you pull out even for a moment.
This is a very insecure situation for the guy to be in. And that's why he does it in a totally different way, from the way he normally masturbates himself. Feeling insecure with the lady makes the guy do her all the time, non-stop. Which more often than not leads to a premature pop.
But it doesn't have to be this way, at least not in a P4P type of situation. You can agree with the lady on a 30-minute cock-inside-pussy ride, with only one cumshot allowed. And then you can feel safe enough to make yourself last with her, the way you normally make yourself last during masturbation.
I've watched quite a few porn scenes. And according to my estimate, the lady usually gets nailed for about 25-30 minutes in an average porn scene. And taking frequent breaks is the way guys last this long with their lady. You almost never see the guy get on top and pound the lady non-stop. It's always a little bit of oral. A quick pussy ride. Back to oral. Back to pussy in a different position. They change positions frequently, with some oral breaks in between. Then it might be some anal for the lady, if she is so inclined. But the key in all of this is the frequent breaks the guy takes. This is why he lasts so long.
Pull out, then go back inside. That's what enables you to last for a long time during the ride. But you need to be sure and secure that the lady will let you go back inside after you pull out of her. And that's why you need that agreement about how long you get to ride her pussy, even if you get only one cumshot with her.
Porn scenes are a good example of how it can be done. And it is a fact that vast majority of porn-scenes show only one cumshot. Guys make themselves last by taking frequent breaks with their lady. And it works for these guys, because they have an agreement with their lady about the time they get to ride her pussy or ass.
I think virtually every guy can do it like this. Because it's not possible to cum, when you aren't nailing the lady's bum. All you need to do is pull out. Take a quick break. Then plunge back inside for another ride.
....No one force the girls to do A+, if a girl provide A+ is her choice....It's not much of a choice, when the lady doesn't get paid for it. This is like going to a store and giving the owner a choice to give you something for free on top of what you buy.
Sure, sometimes the owner might give you a free trinket to keep good relations with you. But you won't get much, and you won't get it every time.
That's the way it is with ladies doing A+ for free, on top of what you pay for.
If you want the lady to tease you with her ass and invite you for A+, then you need to encourage her choice with some good compensation. Or else it's not much of a choice for her. Because she has no incentive to do it.
Asian Rain
12-23-16, 13:23
I'd say that 500 B for A+ is a very reasonable surcharge to have. This is a positive development for both ladies and guys.
Because now, instead of looking at it as extra work, the ladies will see it as a way to make extra money.
Instead of discouraging guys from asking for A+, these ladies will now try to convert their pussy guys into A+ guys. It's like you just need to say the word, and the lady will pound you with her ass in reverse-cowgirl. This is a great situation for guys to have.This is nothing more than a price increase. If the former "all anal (A+) inclusive" price at the PSE shops was 2000 be, then the new price should be 1500 be "without anal" with an add-on option for anal at 500 be. Then we are at parity pricing and the ladies will really see providing anal as a way to make extra money. As the current approach stands, the girl can now provide a more restricted set of services for the same price as previous and the punter has to upgrade to get to the same point as previous. Next they will offer a-la-carte upsell options such as +200 be for kissing, +300 be for BBBJ, etc.
In my purely personal ideal of how an oily experience would go, I would walk into a shop where the receptionist would hand me an iPad with a list of options. I would tick all the options that fit my taste / desire at that particular moment. For example, I would tick DFK, BBBJ, rimming, BBFS, no baby, 18-25 yo and the system would spit out which girls matched criterion and their price. I could then select by the photos or ask for a lineup of all the girls that were of that profile to check out their in-person looks. Before going to the room, I would be happy to pre-pay as long as the girl pre-confirmed her understanding of my "ticklist of requirements" with a sign on the dotted line of committment. Of course this is just a dream. These McFuck places are just going to be what they are and service innovation is just wishful thinking. As many members observe, these shops require quite a bit of search with hit-and-miss results. Any girl that is spectacular will be short-lived. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
This is nothing more than a price increase....I agree that a price increase isn't the best thing for guys. But having limited opportunity and choice for A+ isn't the best thing for guys either.
You get what you pay for. Which isn't much, when you don't pay anything.
Sure, there are some ladies who are doing A+ for free. But many of these ladies probably do it because they are less attractive than other ladies. This is their way to attract guys, who otherwise might not be attracted to them.
Looks are important too. And if you want better-looking ladies to start doing A+ with their guys, including you, then you need to provide some incentive for them. Or else they won't do it.
Christian G
12-23-16, 13:51
It's not much of a choice, when the lady doesn't get paid for it. This is like going to a store and giving the owner a choice to give you something for free on top of what you buy.
Sure, sometimes the owner might give you a free trinket to keep good relations with you. But you won't get much, and you won't get it every time.
That's the way it is with ladies doing A+ for free, on top of what you pay for.
If you want the lady to tease you with her ass and invite you for A+, then you need to encourage her choice with some good compensation. Or else it's not much of a choice for her. Because she has no incentive to do it.Your comparison makes absolutely no sense to me, you can not compare the seller of a shop that sells items with a girl selling her own body. How you can say that she doesn't get paid? Girls in PSE don't do nothing for free, they give you a service for 1500 baht plus massage fee to the shop. In the PSE shop not all ladies provide A+ so this is mean no one force them to do A+, is their body and they choose if do Anal or not. Some girls choose to not do A+, some choose to do A+, again is their choise.
Then you can try to draw other execuses, but would not change the speech. If you feel bad to go in a PSE shop and fuck girls in the ass for 1500 baht you can always give them 500-1000 or more baht for tip.
If i have to pay more for A+ i want also a more good quality of girls. Is no sense to pay more for the same low quality and old girls.
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If i have to pay more for A+ i want also a more good quality of girls. Is no sense to pay more for the same low quality and old girls.More money leads to more girls, and better-looking girls too.
It's just that this kind of thing takes time to happen. It doesn't happen overnight.
First, you start paying more money. The ladies start boasting to each other about how much money they've made. Then this encourages other ladies to join in the fun and have you nail their bum.
Your comparison makes absolutely no sense to me, you can not compare the seller of a shop that sells items with a girl selling her own body. How you can say that she doesn't get paid? Girls in PSE don't do nothing for free, they give you a service for 1500 baht plus massage fee to the shop. In the PSE shop not all ladies provide A+ so this is mean no one force them to do A+, is their body and they choose if do Anal or not. Some girls choose to not do A+, some choose to do A+, again is their choise.
Then you can try to draw other execuses, but would not change the speech. If you feel bad to go in a PSE shop and fuck girls in the ass for 1500 baht you can always give them 500-1000 or more baht for tip.
If i have to pay more for A+ i want also a more good quality of girls. Is no sense to pay more for the same low quality and old girls.Yes some girls don't like it and they would rather forego business than do it for free (no additional charge). For extra money, just a few of the borderline ones might change their mind.
Pay me a million Baht, and I might take one up there myself. LOL Just to illustrate everyone has their price. Pay the girl enough and she will surely do it. For just 500, only a few might change their mind.
Indeed I think making the girl suffer, is worthy of a tip. A buddy of mine told me proudly, he had paid the girl a premium to fuck her ass, and so to make sure he got his money's worth, he claimed to have fucked her ass for almost 60 minutes.
Member #4698
12-23-16, 17:03
Pay me a million Baht, and I might take one up there myself. LOL Just to illustrate everyone has their price. Pay the girl enough and she will surely do it. For just 500, only a few might change their mind.
You are right. Everybody has their price, but my price is not 1,000,000 baht, approx $27,800; no way! But for a $1,000,000 US dollars, yes, I would make my cherry ass available for 30 minutes, one shot only, after 7 or 8 Tequilas. Wire transfer payment required in advance. Any takers? 555.
I jest, but this is all based on very sound economic laws of the labor market. In theory, there is no job so hazardous, onerous, or difficult that can't find an adequate supply of labor at the right price. Handling radioactive waste was the example my economics professor used in the classroom. But taking it up the ass is a similar example except that for some, taking it up the ass is a turn on, so I wouldn't expect workers who like it to demand extra compsensation to do it. Thus I always assumed Tulip porno performers, for example, liked it up the asss and that's why they readily included it in their repertoire at no additional cost. An alternative explanation is that the anal girls are less attractive girls facing lower demand than other more attractive girls in the buisness, so they offered this service as a way to attract more customers. In either scenario I don't see why more $$$ should be asked for. This extra pricing phenomenon is not a good thing. Only in the case of a really hot in demand girl could the higher price be somewhat justified economically.
Finally let me add that I am not into shagging girls in the ass even when I am under the impression they want it and are enjoying it becasue I prefer vaginal intercourse. But I would like anal sex even less if I thought that the girl didn't like it either and was doing it only for the extra baht. That would really turn me off.
Snow White is closed for 3 days over the new year so Ninja's clearly not going to come back before then.Does anyone know if it's common for the shops to close up around the new year? My stopover happens to fall around that time, and Snow White was on my visit-list. How likely am I to find a locked door at Tulip, Mango, or the other PSE oilies?
Is it appropriate to openly ask mamasan which girls did not have a baby during the lineup?
I don't want to offend the ladies, but also last couple of times the girls had stretch marks, not awful but quite bad, so I'd rather avoid those next time.
Finally let me add that I am not into shagging girls in the ass even when I am under the impression they want it and are enjoying it becasue I prefer vaginal intercourse. But I would like anal sex even less if I thought that the girl didn't like it either and was doing it only for the extra baht. That would really turn me off.Why do think the A+ girls, with rare exception, are not saying to me, here is my ass, why not plough it? They just go with my activities. If they got turned on, and some do, they could easily make suggestions. Do they think I would be shocked?
Anyway, if you don't like it, the "even less" bit, sounds a bit silly. Most guys that like it, are taking it. I admit to trying about once per year for one reason or another. E. g. Girl had a sore pussy, or curiosity. Last time I achieved it at Mango, not with favorite girl, it was quite difficult, extremely tight fit, and girl appeared to be not enjoying it at all, more like grimacing. I did cum so duration was not too long, just maybe 3 minutes or so, and felt a little sorry that I requested it. A new girl there, so probably not yet that used to relaxing to have something shoved up there.
I remember now, when I enquired if she did anal initially out of curiosity or just being able to report it, that she yes we could try it, but after certain other activities that she wanted to enjoy first. It was like she was going to get her pop by other means, DATY and cowgirl etc. , then tolerate an anal at the end.
I think there are other girls that have been doing anal several times daily and are very well used to it by now, so perhaps it is just normal for them. Nothing to particularly like or dislike.
Anal is like everything else: some like it, some don't. And some come down in the middle. 99 percent of the girls I've had kept a hard lock on their back door. Two lovers were willing to try it out, and we took it slow, lots of lube, and one of the two said it was okay, the other girl said never again. Ja from Bamboo, an A+ listed pro, took me up her tunnel of love with ease and apparently with pleasure, and she is the size of a China doll.
I have a freelancer who keeps a small flat of her own near Nana, we've already gone once for a massage and a shag, and she's now inviting me back and has offered me her ass "if I'm good". I suppose this means gentle, and of course I said "yes ma'am"!
FR on that after New Years.
Why do think the A+ girls, with rare exception, are not saying to me, here is my ass, why not plough it? They just go with my activities. If they got turned on, and some do, they could easily make suggestions. Do they think I would be shocked?
Anyway, if you don't like it, the "even less" bit, sounds a bit silly. Most guys that like it, are taking it. I admit to trying about once per year for one reason or another. E. g. Girl had a sore pussy, or curiosity. Last time I achieved it at Mango, not with favorite girl, it was quite difficult, extremely tight fit, and girl appeared to be not enjoying it at all, more like grimacing. I did cum so duration was not too long, just maybe 3 minutes or so, and felt a little sorry that I requested it. A new girl there, so probably not yet that used to relaxing to have something shoved up there.
I remember now, when I enquired if she did anal initially out of curiosity or just being able to report it, that she yes we could try it, but after certain other activities that she wanted to enjoy first. It was like she was going to get her pop by other means, DATY and cowgirl etc. , then tolerate an anal at the end.
I think there are other girls that have been doing anal several times daily and are very well used to it by now, so perhaps it is just normal for them. Nothing to particularly like or dislike.
Does anyone know if it's common for the shops to close up around the new year? My stopover happens to fall around that time, and Snow White was on my visit-list. How likely am I to find a locked door at Tulip, Mango, or the other PSE oilies?I cannot speak to New Year specifically, but I do remember an instance where there was a holiday and most of the shops were closed. However, the Tulip girls who wanted to work went to Sky massage (just down the block) and Sky was open. In fact, on that one occasion I booked a Tulip girl working at Sky temporarily through the mama-san at Snow White. I don't remember how that ended up happening but it did.
So, just because one shop is closed doesn't necessarily mean all are, and it is possible a girl who normally works at one oily might be working at another during the holiday. But again, I haven't tested this around the New Year holiday so don't know if it applies.
More money leads to more girls, and better-looking girls too.
It's just that this kind of thing takes time to happen. It doesn't happen overnight.
First, you start paying more money. The ladies start boasting to each other about how much money they've made. Then this encourages other ladies to join in the fun and have you nail their bum.That has not been my experience these past years in BKK. P4 P gals for the most part are not as good looking, provide less, have less than desirable attitudes, and want more.
The ladies probably also say that that it's a slippery slope, when they do A+ for free. First it's A+ for free. Then guys will want something else for free too. And eventually it will get so bad that it won't be worthwhile for them to do P4P anymore.
You need to recognize that the ladies and guys have opposing interests to some extent. Which requires a compromise, where both sides get a part of what they want. Or else it's no deal.
Sure, it can be a slippery slope either for guys or for ladies, depending on who gets to have their way. But this kind of thing destroys the market. The only way the market can work is when you have a compromise. And 500B for A+ is a very reasonable compromise that does something for both ladies and guys.
The thing that makes A+ different from everything else is that virtually all ladies normally do everything else, but only some ladies do A+. A+ is a special service. It's not like everything else. And that's why it needs to be recognized as separate and different in terms of compensation for the ladies. Or else A+ is not even on the menu, let alone the lady encouraging you to go A+ on her.Again Dan, the mantra at the oilies was "all girls do everything" and here's the price. That's the point; nothing else. Don't want to work there; go work in a GoGo. I have said many times that if they had real lookers then I would not mind paying more. They don't. They want to foist the same old gals on us that provide the same service for more money. Want more money? Raise your game. You get more money after you raise your game, not before.
Is it appropriate to openly ask mamasan which girls did not have a baby during the lineup?
I don't want to offend the ladies, but also last couple of times the girls had stretch marks, not awful but quite bad, so I'd rather avoid those next time.Would you accept an elderly, flat-chested midget when you were looking for a tall, young girl with large breasts? Of course not. So why should you accept a girl with stretch marks when you're looking for a baby-free body?
Why would anyone be offended anyway? Leave your little western feminist sensitivities at home. Just go in and say to the mamasan 'I want girl no have baby' and she'll point them out. Don't feel awkward, they've heard it all before.
Would you accept an elderly, flat-chested midget when you were looking for a tall, young girl with large breasts? Of course not. So why should you accept a girl with stretch marks when you're looking for a baby-free body?
Why would anyone be offended anyway? Leave your little western feminist sensitivities at home. Just go in and say to the mamasan 'I want girl no have baby' and she'll point them out. Don't feel awkward, they've heard it all before.Totally agree. Hell, I have called off a session at an oily when I disrobed a gal and found bad baby drag. I apologize and tell 'them that just won't work for me. Was offered another gal, but seeing that really put me off my game. This is another reason I don't pay up front. Of course now I ask. The mamasans are far more reliable about accurately reporting the shape of the gals than punters. Truth be told I wish it were more like HK where there are almost no mommies working.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-24-16, 04:38
Totally agree. Hell, I have called off a session at an oily when I disrobed a gal and found bad baby drag. I apologize and tell 'them that just won't work for me. Was offered another gal, but seeing that really put me off my game. This is another reason I don't pay up front. Of course now I ask. The mamasans are far more reliable about accurately reporting the shape of the gals than punters. Truth be told I wish it were more like HK where there are almost no mommies working.At Addict, you pay up front and there is a sign that says it is non-refundable, so anyone concerned about baby damage better ask before making a selection. It is also non-extendable without paying a minimum 1700 bhat fee (for half an hour) so keep to the session duration you selected.
At Addict, you pay up front and there is a sign that says it is non-refundable, so anyone concerned about baby damage better ask before making a selection. It is also non-extendable without paying a minimum 1700 bhat fee (for half an hour) so keep to the session duration you selected.Dude, I have not had a sesh at Addict in ages. I avoid the place. Lots of bad reports about it on here lately as well.
Jimmy Boy 99
12-24-16, 05:13
Dude, I have not had a sesh at Addict in ages. I avoid the place. Lots of bad reports about it on here lately as well.I had four sessions there on my trip this November and December. Two great GFE sessions and two very good ones. YMMV depending on how good you are in selecting the girls and warming them up so it is not just about servicing you.
I had four sessions there on my trip this November and December. Two great GFE sessions and two very good ones. YMMV depending on how good you are in selecting the girls and warming them up so it is not just about servicing you.At the end of the day it really is about me. I'm paying. Yes, it's a lot of fun to get the gal going as well, but they have to be a willing participant. I speak Thai and begin joking with them from the get-go. I'm light hearted and never serious, but I'm not there to romance; P4 P gals are not my girlfriends. I expect a certain standard of performance for my money and if it's not delivered; I'm not happy. BBBJ (CIM if I desire), DFK, DATY, rimming, A+ is nice but not necessary, all done skillfully and with enthusiasm. These all must be on the menu along with a body that is not ravaged by childbirth and a head that does not look like a Rottweiler. This is their chosen profession and just like any other professional I deal with, I expect them to do their job well. That's what I'm paying for. If I have to "work," what's the point in paying?
At the end of the day it really is about me. I'm paying... I expect a certain standard of performance for my money and if it's not delivered; I'm not happy...This is their chosen profession and just like any other professional I deal with, I expect them to do their job well. That's what I'm paying for. If I have to "work," what's the point in paying?Well said! And I completely agree with you. For other professions, everybody agrees with this premise, but in P4 P, many folks talk about the needs of the provider. She is getting paid, and that should be enough for her. IMO, establishing a connection with the girl, and / or pleasing her can be done, but should not be expected.
Asian Rain
12-24-16, 11:58
Is it appropriate to openly ask mamasan which girls did not have a baby during the lineup?YES, this is essential given the high percentage of MILFs working in massage places. In fact, I ask the same to bar girls and street walkers. For massage places, I walk in and immediately tell the mama-san I only want to see girls without baby, whether I am looking at the catalogue or looking at a lineup. Then I can make a better decision based on what I see in terms of visible looks. No need to be timid about this point. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
That has not been my experience these past years in BKK. P4 P gals for the most part are not as good looking, provide less, have less than desirable attitudes, and want more.The good looking bar girls do exist. It is easier to find good looking girls in certain bars, to my taste anyway.
When I look back at pics of bar girls from many years ago, they don't look so stunning any more, except for odd extra pretty one with bad service, such as the tall very hot bodied Noi at Long Gun. Looks have not declined in bars if one could ignore the surgeries or love the surgeries, which is interfering with it.
Bar girls are charging much more than before. So they can make significantly more per fuck where the Oily MP workers do not (1500 for FS over very many years now). Makes sense that the best looking girls may look for the easier option to be a bargirl. What makes a stunning girl want to be PSE Oily worker? I really wonder. Most pretty ones I met were dissatisfied. Bargirls tend more to be dissatisfied, only if they don't make enough money, but turn up to work very irregularly.
Many years ago it was bargirls that were the extra cheap ones. Not any more.
Pretty girls have more ability to choose their best options. Make big money for less work.
I attach some old girl photos. I thought they were pretty awesome girls at the time. Four soapy girls and one bargirl. Now I think ho hum so-so, mostly. Soapy girls were better looking than bar girls in the old days. Unfortunately can't find Long Gun Noi right now, but have posted her pic before, I believe.
I have pics of much prettier girls overall in recent times that I can't post, so I can't prove it, but at least I myself accept that the looks of best bargirls are better than I ever found in the past. I would love to see if anyone could find pics of real super stunners from the past in Oily MPs or bargirls. I used to do mainly Soapies in the old days as that was where the best lookers were at the time. I accept that Soapies have declined for girl looks most likely.
AquaDreams
12-24-16, 15:29
I attach some old girl photos.The woman on the upper left is the most hot, IMO.
I'll be hitting BKK for the first time in February, 4 nights 5 days, hoping to experience a nice variety so been reading all the threads back a year but will only book one lady that's been mentioned in a report. Will avoid doing the current oft-mentioned stars such as Cheer & Ja at Bamboo, or Ae & Prae at Mango, or Opor & View at Tulip, or Benz & Ninja at Snow White. Have a booking want list that includes **** appeal babes from Pink, 101 Premier, Bamboo, Snow White, Paradise & Mitu. But after the first night it'll all probably go chaotic once I've tasted the FL and bar scene. The philosophical discussions here can be interesting but would like to see more reports to be honest.
Member #4591
12-24-16, 17:30
The woman on the upper left is the most hot, IMO.
I'll be hitting BKK for the first time in February, 4 nights 5 days, hoping to experience a nice variety so been reading all the threads back a year but will only book one lady that's been mentioned in a report. Will avoid doing the current oft-mentioned stars such as Cheer & Ja at Bamboo, or Ae & Prae at Mango, or Opor & View at Tulip, or Benz & Ninja at Snow White. Have a booking want list that includes **** appeal babes from Pink, 101 Premier, Bamboo, Snow White, Paradise & Mitu. But after the first night it'll all probably go chaotic once I've tasted the FL and bar scene. The philosophical discussions here can be interesting but would like to see more reports to be honest.So why don't you start by reporting yourself Mr. Post count of 4. And don't pull that crap about its my first time to Thailand. You could report in your home area thread or other destinations, How dare you complain about the quality of this forum with a post count of 4! Come back when you have something intelligent to say.
The good looking bar girls do exist. It is easier to find good looking girls in certain bars, to my taste anyway.
When I look back at pics of bar girls from many years ago, they don't look so stunning any more, except for odd extra pretty one with bad service, such as the tall very hot bodied Noi at Long Gun. Looks have not declined in bars if one could ignore the surgeries or love the surgeries, which is interfering with it.
Bar girls are charging much more than before. So they can make significantly more per fuck where the Oily MP workers do not (1500 for FS over very many years now). Makes sense that the best looking girls may look for the easier option to be a bargirl. What makes a stunning girl want to be PSE Oily worker? I really wonder. Most pretty ones I met were dissatisfied. Bargirls tend more to be dissatisfied, only if they don't make enough money, but turn up to work very irregularly.
Many years ago it was bargirls that were the extra cheap ones. Not any more.
Pretty girls have more ability to choose their best options. Make big money for less work.
I attach some old girl photos. I thought they were pretty awesome girls at the time. Four soapy girls and one bargirl. Now I think ho hum so-so, mostly. Soapy girls were better looking than bar girls in the old days. Unfortunately can't find Long Gun Noi right now, but have posted her pic before, I believe.
I have pics of much prettier girls overall in recent times that I can't post, so I can't prove it, but at least I myself accept that the looks of best bargirls are better than I ever found in the past. I would love to see if anyone could find pics of real super stunners from the past in Oily MPs or bargirls. I used to do mainly Soapies in the old days as that was where the best lookers were at the time. I accept that Soapies have declined for girl looks most likely.The one on the left in the white is very nice looking. She was from LaBelle, correct? The others don't really appeal to me.
The Man Sam
12-24-16, 17:57
I do realize that you specified MP. My own experience on value for money in general is the FL talent. It can be a crapshoot like in any venue but I've pulled 2 very good providers from Nana parking this week. 1,000 baht for one and 1,500 for the other. I might have negotiated on the 2nd one but I found her to be a very attractive spinner. No baby damage on either. The 2nd one claims to be 30. Only the tiny crows feet suggest otherwise. She has the body of an 18 yo and the appetite of a 32 yo. Both experiences surpassed my 2 most recent trips to oilies and at one half and one third of the price.Thanks for the advice. I've always visited MPs and brothels but I'm willing to try out FLs. What's the protocol here? I just walk up to them and negotiate? Since I'll be staying with friends, I'll just need to find a short time hotel. I believe that's not hard to find in Bangkok.
Unfortunately can't find Long Gun Noi right now, but have posted her pic before, I believe.I'm not sure which girl you are talking about and would love to see a photo. I have taken many girls from Long Gun over the years. Unfortunately, I have forgotten almost all of their names. Personally, I think the very early 2000's were the prime years for hot girls at Long Gun. Joy was my favorite back then. A true stunner and perhaps my favorite to ever do the show where they come smashing down with the boots to "Burnin Alive". She wasn't tall, but she was definitely one of the hottest Thai girls I've ever seen on Soi Cowboy. I remember 2 tall sisters in the early 2000's who had great bodies, but I forget their names as well. I don't think Long Gun has a good looking girl there anymore. At least I haven't seen one in a while.
So why don't you start by reporting yourself Mr. Post count of 4. And don't pull that crap about its my first time to Thailand. You could report in your home area thread or other destinations, How dare you complain about the quality of this forum with a post count of 4! Come back when you have something intelligent to say.If the above is an example of an intelligent or useful post, God help us all.
Went to Honey Bee Massage a couple weeks ago.
I hadn't booked anyone and tested my luck with the masseuse that I was told would take care of me.
I opted for the Body to Body with Happy Ending in the VIP Room option (price as per their website + a little extra for the vip room).
While the start was a bit difficult because of the electricity fuse jumping each time we'd start hot water, it actually made us laugh and get done with the shower part both meticulously and ASAP not to freeze ourselves (good thing Thailand is hot country).
Beeing done with that I wondered how the session would go (was it a sign that things would be shitty all the way? Well on the contrary it was a great session, Polly has good massage skills and made the whole body to body very meaningful and super hot! I opted for the simple HJ release which came at the end of a long lasting massage and teasing suplice.
Perfect experience for my first time here (not in the alley).
9/10 for the service.
7,5/10 for the looks.
9/10 for the personnality.
Had been to Analisa when they used to be on soi 22. Seems they moved a few months ago to Nana (and kept a sister shop on soi 22).
I opted for the Body to Body with Happy Ending in a normal Room (I think its called paradise massage and like 2300 THB as per their website for 90 minutes).
I had booked one of their young masseuse on the phone but when I arrived the desk girl said she was confused and the young masseuse would only be available 30 minutes after.
I was left with 3 choices: waiting, leaving or taking what was available.
The girl was in her 30's instead of early 20's I had booked. I was put in a room where I was separated from another punter by a simple curtain.
Therefore we couldn't really talk to break the ice and opted for the silent massage.
The session wasn't a disaster but I can't say I enjoyed it so much either.
7,5/10 for the service.
6,5/10 for the looks (okay maybe 7, but I'm just disappointed by the fact she had 10 years more than booked. To be fair I don't write her name as its not her fault).
I don't rate the personnality as we barely exchanged (seemed willing to please but had hardly any discussion due to the room configuration).
I'd rate the shop 5/10 because of the whole experience (mistake in booking and poor room setup).
The one on the left in the white is very nice looking. She was from LaBelle, correct? The others don't really appeal to me.She was nice looking originally, not any more after a nose job. I met her first at Versailles, then JC Infinity and finally she moved to La Belle. The service went downhill, at La Belle, she had become less GFE and more dick scared. She is probably still there, but I lost interest.
I could give the others a miss now too. I have become more picky. I can find moderately pretty girls today in bars, but struggled to do so back 10 to 20 years ago. Some of my recent girls were better looking that what I did years ago. So I don't accept that looks of bargirls have gone downhill overall. It depends on which bar is attended.
The good looking bar girls do exist. It is easier to find good looking girls in certain bars, to my taste anyway.
When I look back at pics of bar girls from many years ago, they don't look so stunning any more, except for odd extra pretty one with bad service, such as the tall very hot bodied Noi at Long Gun. Looks have not declined in bars if one could ignore the surgeries or love the surgeries, which is interfering with it.
Bar girls are charging much more than before. So they can make significantly more per fuck where the Oily MP workers do not (1500 for FS over very many years now). Makes sense that the best looking girls may look for the easier option to be a bargirl. What makes a stunning girl want to be PSE Oily worker? I really wonder. Most pretty ones I met were dissatisfied. Bargirls tend more to be dissatisfied, only if they don't make enough money, but turn up to work very irregularly.
Many years ago it was bargirls that were the extra cheap ones. Not any more.
Pretty girls have more ability to choose their best options. Make big money for less work.
I attach some old girl photos. I thought they were pretty awesome girls at the time. Four soapy girls and one bargirl. Now I think ho hum so-so, mostly. Soapy girls were better looking than bar girls in the old days. Unfortunately can't find Long Gun Noi right now, but have posted her pic before, I believe.
I have pics of much prettier girls overall in recent times that I can't post, so I can't prove it, but at least I myself accept that the looks of best bargirls are better than I ever found in the past. I would love to see if anyone could find pics of real super stunners from the past in Oily MPs or bargirls. I used to do mainly Soapies in the old days as that was where the best lookers were at the time. I accept that Soapies have declined for girl looks most likely.Picture 4 looks like Yok (Cherry) in her pre-baby days. Is it?
Eric Swiss
12-25-16, 16:50
Went to Honey Bee Massage a couple weeks ago.
I hadn't booked anyone and tested my luck with the masseuse that I was told would take care of me.
I opted for the Body to Body with Happy Ending in the VIP Room option (price as per their website + a little extra for the vip room).
While the start was a bit difficult because of the electricity fuse jumping each time we'd start hot water, it actually made us laugh and get done with the shower part both meticulously and ASAP not to freeze ourselves (good thing Thailand is hot country).
Beeing done with that I wondered how the session would go (was it a sign that things would be shitty all the way? Well on the contrary it was a great session, Polly has good massage skills and made the whole body to body very meaningful and super hot! I opted for the simple HJ release which came at the end of a long lasting massage and teasing suplice.
Perfect experience for my first time here (not in the alley).
9/10 for the service.
7,5/10 for the looks.
9/10 for the personnality.Hey Sinofaguo:
Thanks for the nice report! In the picture on the website, Polly looks not so young and not so slim, is that sort of correct?
I've got to laugh at the VIP room that has no hot water or electricity: typical Land of Smiles.
You mention teasing supplice, is that the tantric massage? They have a rather extensive menu with kinky stuff on the front desk, which has some overlap with the one on the website but not completely, so I was wondering which option you actually took. Knowing that they can also do some sorts of combinations.
But anyway, it's good to see you made the best of the situation with your girl and some humor!
Eric.
Gypsie King
12-25-16, 17:08
Sorry for the typo, yes it was a mistake, bongkot doesn't charge an A+ fee, bamboo does for a long time and now mango does too.
And yes, I was expecting the fee to pop up due to one previous report and I did pay for it. I am not against A+ being an add-on fee, as long as the fee is properly described and not a surprise.
GK.
They're probably not going to make a big thing about it but on their laminated card there's definitely at least one option that mentions the 500 baht surcharge. It's called something like the XXXX special and is a 2 hour option for 3000 baht which includes Nuru or something and A+.
Did you pay the surcharge by the way?
Thanks for all the replies. So today on my visit to Mango I did just that, asked which girls do not have a baby.
Out of 15 or so in the lineup, maybe 3 or 4 hands went up. Not great.
I picked the one whom I later discovered to be Prae, I think it's a same one who was mentioned here before.
Her face is not very cute, but I quite liked her body. Thin, small but nice breasts and ass.
The BJ was frankly awful, she was pulling too hard making it painful, and even though I've tried to explain to her what needs to be done differently, it only marginally helped.
The sex was good, though bit too much of a (fake) moaning. The massage was also nice.
Overall I think it wasn't the best session. I found her a bit too mechanical, she kind of done the right things (apart from BJ which was bad), but it didn't feel good. I've had better and more intimate sessions before attitude-wise with other girls. But their looks were lower.
I was also surprised to read here about A+ surcharge at Mango. I wasn't interested in that, but the mamasan never mentioned it. I guess it would've been not so nice surprise.
The BJ was frankly awful, she was pulling too hard making it painful, and even though I've tried to explain to her what needs to be done differently, it only marginally helped.
Many girls try to use the hand moving up and down the cock, possibly twisting, and rubbing against the skin, or pulling the skin too far. This is not great. They don't know exactly how it feels. We have to train them. Just like girls that train us how to DATY best for them helps a lot too. I am fortunate to speak Thai well, as aids me to explain to them how the touch should be.
Either:
1. Don't use hands at all once the dick is up. Instead use a hand to tickle balls lightly.
2. If the girl cannot keep the hands off, I show her that the grip has to be extremely light and any up and down movement has to take the skin with the hand so there is actually no rubbing friction. Also important not to pull the skin too much or that will be pain as well.
I have heard that some guys like friction on the dick (unlubricated), but I certainly do not like any dry skin rubbing or friction.
BBBJ without hands on dick is really better for me, and I like slow and sloppy, no teeth and no real grip. Again I read that some guys like far more vigorous BBBJ. I ask for BBBJ in slow motion. Unfortunately there are some girls you just cannot adjust to my style, and if so I cut the BBBJ short.
Prae has excellent firm high tits, I would estimate to be B-cups. So not that small, except to guys normally taking large tits. Certainly quite good for a slim build.
I think you're talking about Dolly which is rated 32 on their site and looks old yes.
Polly is listed 25 on their website, I would have guessed 26 to 27 and rather normal body not one I would call fat.
http://bangkok.honeybeemassage.com/masseuses/polly/
Yes their book of service is a nightmare. I now decided not to look at it and just ask for the service and vip room because the more I look at the book the more I'm lost LOL.
Body Body HJ VIP Room 90 min 2200.
Hey Sinofaguo:
Thanks for the nice report! In the picture on the website, Polly looks not so young and not so slim, is that sort of correct?
I've got to laugh at the VIP room that has no hot water or electricity: typical Land of Smiles.
You mention teasing supplice, is that the tantric massage? They have a rather extensive menu with kinky stuff on the front desk, which has some overlap with the one on the website but not completely, so I was wondering which option you actually took. Knowing that they can also do some sorts of combinations.
But anyway, it's good to see you made the best of the situation with your girl and some humor!
Eric.
For those who who might be a bit new to the BKK massage places and think that all massage experiences are the same or that there are only three kinds of massage experience available in Bangkok: massage with no extras, massage with HJ and massage with FS, here's my take -.
True, there are undoubtedly some places where they don't provide even HJ. And yes, we all know about the full-on places, such as Bamboo, Snow White and, for the truly athletic, Tulip. But even in those places, there are variations. It depends on how many guys the lady has had to have sex with before you that day, if nothing else. That is why we listen to the advice of the more experienced punters who tell us it is always best to go for the one in the line-up who at least makes eye-contact and looks enthusiastic as opposed to the hottest one.
But there are many other places where other factors come into play. What I have in mind are the more fringe places, such as massage places that do not have separate rooms but only have alcoves. In those places, prices vary as does what is available and as does your mileage. For instance, in the full-on places I mentioned above, you are never going to get a really new lady who does not provide the oral build-up at the beginning. But this is what I encountered when I went to one of these fringe massage places. But if you are prepared to put up with such so-so experiences, bearing in mind that mostly I pay about 1,000 for FS extra plus the massage fee, I just head to the next shop if did not get satisfaction in the previous one.
But there are reasons why you might want to try the more fringe places. For instance, I recently has to visit an office near the Sukhumvit tourist area but where you will hardly see any tourists on the soi. It was 10.30 am but the person I was supposed to meet was delayed and I had a couple of hours on my hands. So went to a nearby massage place for an hour. Rather than wait to be told, I picked the best looking of the bunch who was looking a bit flirty too.
There was a shower inside but the toilet was one of those squat jobs outside the building at the back yard. There were wooden wall dividers with a wooden platform with a thin mattress (always a bit tough on the knees, I find!) The lady I chose was a bit chunkier than I usual go for but she was probably more into the sex than I was and had a great set of tits and no kids. What I really liked was that she was a naturally lubricating down below and sweet-smelling and from our conversation afterwards she had not had sex for a few days at least. The naturally lubricating was a turn-on for me. With all the best of respect to the ladies of those more full-on places, they will either lube up in advance or lube up when you are about to drill them. I don't find it a turn-off when that happens or when the girl is prepared to go ahead but is a bit drier than would be comfortable. But it is really nice when the girl is naturally lubricating and especially when she lubes a lot!
Anyway, needless to say, it was clear to everyone in the place what was going on as we were shaking the partitions and making plenty of noises. And because my balls had been drained the previous day, I took ages to cum and the girl was slapping my thighs and came several times. It was such a vigorous experience I needed about 20 minutes to come down from the endorphins and get my breath and energy back while she cuddled me and even offered me a second shot which I declined due to old age.
At the end, I paid 1,000 to the lady as tip, 500 extra for sex on premises (first time I heard about this but it was a deal-breaker!) and 500 for the massage (500 for lotion. I avoid the oil in these fringe places as the new girls sometimes try to lube up with the oil which then results in a broken condom). I can hear the old sweats clamouring about how bad value this is. Yes, it is true that a few days before I had a one shot (with two attempts) at Bamboo for 2,100 for a 90 minute session with a very able professional who had the usual messed up stomach but still worth every penny. I could have got an hour session at bamboo for 1900. So why should a one shot in a fringe place with much less privacy and worse facilities be good value in comparison?
For me it was because it was partly unexpected. At best, I thought I might get HJ. But it was the sheer naughtiness of everyone knowing what we were doing, the fact that the lady was really into the sex etc. It was somewhere between PSE and GFE and all the best for that.
I think counting cumshots is a wrong way to go about it. Because the key to satisfaction isn't the cumshot. It's lasting for a long time with the lady.
No point trying to convert someone to your philosophy. There are two pop guys (or more), and there are guys where pops are not very relevant.
I only ever tried for 2 pops on occasions when I had plenty of time left over for a time type booking. My minimum ST is 1 hour, and can be up to 2. 5 hours. I am sure I will never get more than 1 pop in an hour and never tried. In 2. 5 hours, yes I might go for it, meaning commence sex again after first pop. The achievement of a 2nd pop is not the only aim. I never pop fast, even if had no sex for 3 weeks.
We have to allow for guys that pop at the first touch to need another chance or two. Otherwise their session could be over in 5 minutes. I am actually a bit jealous of guys with the sensitivity to pop fairly easily.
To me a pop is not of paramount importance since it lasts for such a short part of the total session. However you must allow for guys to be treating the pops as the "Goals", as though little else matters. Each to their own style that suits their experience.
How often a guy needs sex is also going vary a lot. My GF is extremely sensitive to stimulation (so not challenging at all), only needs sex once per week (on average) and has several pops each time (probably 3 to 5). I get just one with her as the timeframe of 40 minutes is a bit short for me. So no way am I going to be satisfied till next time in another week. If she fucked me every day, I might be basically satisfied and rarely mongering.
There seem to be a lot of girls satisfied with 2 pops, who don't want any more. Then there are also girls where they like to go for a certain duration and the pops are not really limited. I have met girls had maybe 6 or more pops but it is rare.
Stop with all this BS about being too injured to work. She went home to celebrate her graduation from University.That was a very nice pic. It makes some of the SW web site pics look quite bad.
It reads like you may have over reacted to a very vague rumour, and read too much meaning into it. Any girl could have complained to someone about an anal pounding. I often meet girls complaining abut some previous customer. It's not very unusual.
Does anyone have any informations which massage shops will be closed for New Year?
I heard that Bamboo will be closed from 30th December to 4th January and Mango website says that the shop will be closed from 31st to 2nd. Though I will be in Bangkok next Friday and Saturday any tipps where I can go for a naughty (PSE) massage on these days are well appreciated.
Wolvenvacht
12-26-16, 19:36
Stop with all this BS about being too injured to work. She went home to celebrate her graduation from University.And what did she graduate in? Applied Sexuality?
Member #4591
12-27-16, 03:04
That was a very nice pic. It makes some of the SW web site pics look quite bad.
It reads like you may have over reacted to a very vague rumour, and read too much meaning into it. Any girl could have complained to someone about an anal pounding. I often meet girls complaining abut some previous customer. It's not very unusual.I just read many members asking when will she be back and mentioning her injuries. She is perfectly fine.
Eric Swiss
12-27-16, 03:15
I think you're talking about Dolly which is rated 32 on their site and looks old yes.
Polly is listed 25 on their website, I would have guessed 26 to 27 and rather normal body not one I would call fat.
http://bangkok.honeybeemassage.com/masseuses/polly/
Yes their book of service is a nightmare. I now decided not to look at it and just ask for the service and vip room because the more I look at the book the more I'm lost LOL.
Body Body HJ VIP Room 90 min 2200.Thanks for the clarifications! As I reported recently, last time I asked for VIP room they gave me the one across the street at Kiss, and the construction noise across the wall was infernal. To which somebody replied I should just go for the regular room. But it seems you were happy with the VIP room and were not disturbed, is that right?
Because new talent is hard to find (once you've exhausted your normal haunts and get bored), I also find trying out the semi-legit massage shops to be rewarding. Sometimes there are girls in there with very nice bodies actually, of course that can be subjective. I find just walking along soi 22 and eyeing the potential talent is a good idea. If I see something I like, I'll just cancel my plans to go to the more normal P4P venue and head on it and give them a try. There was a cute one at JW Massage but she appears to have left. Still worth checking out these semi legit places as the other guy mentioned below. The same P4P venues can get boring.
Because new talent is hard to find (once you've exhausted your normal haunts and get bored), I also find trying out the semi-legit massage shops to be rewarding. Sometimes there are girls in there with very nice bodies actually, of course that can be subjective. I find just walking along soi 22 and eye'ing the potential talent is a good idea. If I see something I like, I'll just cancel my plans to go to the more normal P4 P venue and head on it and give them a try. There was a cute one at JW Massage but she appears to have left. Still worth checking out these semi legit places as the other guy mentioned below. The same P4 P venues can get boring.Rewarding in what sense? Getting a tug or a fuck? Isn't a hot girl frustrating unless you can fuck her?
Eric Swiss
12-27-16, 10:12
There's been a wave of negativity about Addict recently, so I thought I'd make up my own mind by sampling with my personal probe.
Line-up was about 9 girls, with Sandy acting as the Mamasan. Apart from some dogs who shouldn't even be there, there was this hot chick who'd been eyeballing me last time, so I figured I'd give her a shot. Turns out her name was La La.
She looks like her picture on the website except her camera smile is contrived, whereas her real-life smile is absolutely charming. 25 years old, no baby, real A-cup tits (but a full A-cup), maybe 1 m58. Not skinny but not fat either: I would say pretty healthy body mass index by normal standards. One small tattoo on her left shoulder, nothing bothersome, probably religious for good luck.
She's like a chatterbox. Completely oblivious to the fact that I only speak 20 words of Thai. She keeps referring to herself at the third person: "La La happy". She is from Chiang Mai, so not Isaan dark. Worked 3 weeks in an office once, but clever girl soon realized she was better suited to horizontal work. Boss probably wanted to bang her for free. Imagine that?
The short of it is: I like her. She made me feel comfortable. She dressed and undressed me (not in that order). She either orgasmed or gave a convincing impression thereof, not that I care a whit either way. Weak point is that she was so eager to get to the sex part that she went straight from flaccid state to the BJ, whereas I normally prefer inner thigh massage and HJ first to gradually build a strong erection. When she asks: "Smoke Original?" it means whether I want BBBJ as opposed to CBJ. Weird lingo. But then again who would say no to that? She's not against giving prostate massage if it helps build rapport.
All in all, a wonderful experience. I would say typical Addict as I remember it from the olden days of 3 yeas ago. I came too fast, but I was happy to come too fast. My gut instinct is that all their girls went away after Elvis's death, so the ones who remained were jaded and overworked, but now the mourning season is over, they've enjoyed a nice vacation, and they still need the money, so they are coming back, but there are no punters because all the Farang expat workers have gone back home for the holidays, so they're horny and desperate. Take advantage of it, my friends. Just skip the dogs in the line-up.
Thanks for the clarifications! As I reported recently, last time I asked for VIP room they gave me the one across the street at Kiss, and the construction noise across the wall was infernal. To which somebody replied I should just go for the regular room. But it seems you were happy with the VIP room and were not disturbed, is that right?Yes 3 different VIP rooms, no noise issues.
BTW for the 2nd time I was given Cat and for the 3rd time Gift.
Both are young in their early 20's.
B2 B HJ VIP ROOM 90 minutes 2200 BHT.
Cat face is not my type and I was wondering if I should change her. Finding it akward and believing she worked here for a reason I decided to keep up with the flow and see if she would compensate this with service quality.
I was right to have some faith as the experience was great, she's definatly gifted for Body to Body and the fact she has a little bit more meat than avarage makes it even more confortable when both bodies are in contact.
At some point Cat used her lower belly to massage my manhood, moving up and down repeatedly, she has a great technique it almost felt like the real thing and was outstanding. I think she got quite into it herself and at some point and even teased me with her back side in a very sexy way as if she was really going to get it inside. Not sure how much was just teasing or will to do it but as enjoyable as it would have been my brain took back the controle and I pushed her gently (or not so gently as she sliped from my belly on the bed, making us both laugh).
Really nice experience I recommend her for the quality of the service.
Gift face is not my type either although I would rate her a bit better than Cat on looks.
I don't speak thai but I believe she was dissappointed I only took HJ finish. I guess its as much B2 B work for them with lower pay.
Regardless of the argument with the mamasan and her so so atitude each time she made eye contact with me she would show a smile which seemed a bit forced at first and got much more authentic during the session.
I was surprised how a small girl like her had such strength in her massage skills. Body to body was good too although she was using a different technique than Cat, mainly using her tits by standing accross me while Cat used her whole body.
Very nice happy ending technique.
Out of 3 encounters at the Honey Bee / Kiss / Paradise consortium, I only had good experiences.
I don't speak thai but I believe she was dissappointed I only took HJ finish. I guess its as much B2 B work for them with lower pay.
Yes I believe girls would be disappointed to make less money with potentially hard work from B2 B. I would never take a HJ in a FS establishment. I would be too embarrassed to waste their time. Just my personal attitude. In fact I never took BJ only either except in a BJ shop (even then rarely). One could argue it should not be on the menu if they don't want to provide it. Any money made could be better than none.
They should of course set prices that are commensurate with the amount of effort and duration for each type of service. I usually take long duration because they seem to charge only a little bit more, and I don't like rush.
On the other hand I would not take an assigned girl. I always want to choose. It is hard or me to be excited sexually by a very ordinary girl if assigned one. Far too picky for the overall looks. A bad body could even make me want to look away. We are not doing charity work here. I want her hot body to drive me crazy, and want her face to attract me to get my tongue grappling with hers.
Assigned girls is only reasonable for non-sexual real massages in my view. Even then I could wish to take a girl known to do it how I like.
Yes I believe girls would be disappointed to make less money with potentially hard work from B2 B. I would never take a HJ in a FS establishment. I would be too embarrassed to waste their time. Just my personal attitude. In fact I never took BJ only either except in a BJ shop (even then rarely). One could argue it should not be on the menu if they don't want to provide it. Any money made could be better than none.
They should of course set prices that are commensurate with the amount of effort and duration for each type of service. I usually take long duration because they seem to charge only a little bit more, and I don't like rush.Yes actually the first time I went there I took the B2 B VIP ROOM 90 MIN FJ Option for 2700 BHT but it seemed weird for the girl that I didn't want FJ and was happy with just HJ so I figured the next time I'd just go with B2 B VIP ROOM 90 MIN HJ Option for 2200 BHT and give bigger tip to the girl that way which I did and made them very happy in the end.
I guess its more rewarding for the girl but more risky for me since they don't know what they'll get in the end.
On the other hand I would not take an assigned girl. I always want to choose. It is hard or me to be excited sexually by a very ordinary girl if assigned one. Far too picky for the overall looks. A bad body could even make me want to look away. We are not doing charity work here. I want her hot body to drive me crazy, and want her face to attract me to get my tongue grappling with hers.
Assigned girls is only reasonable for non-sexual real massages in my view. Even then I could wish to take a girl known to do it how I like.Yes if it was for a real sexual encounter I'd be very picky too but for B2 B HJ the girl does most of the work and technique is more important than just plain looks.
I notice also that better looking girls are less hardworking (on the average) than less good looking girls as their looks lets them get away with it I guess.
I'm not a huge fan of thai mps for looks, sure some are looking better than others but I feel quality is far lower than what you find in China, therefore I'm not too picky here.
Pahllus Maximus
12-27-16, 22:16
Hi.
I know it sounds lame, but it brings back nostalgia and the sheer expectation. So, any suggestions on oily massage places with a hole in the centre of the massage table for easy wedding tackle access? I've been in a femin-nazi sex prison and have a week in LOS to bang as many hotties as I can. I guess you can tell the new arrivals by the huge grin from ear to ear and wide eyed wonder of living the way men should.
Hi.
I know it sounds lame, but it brings back nostalgia and the sheer expectation. So, any suggestions on oily massage places with a hole in the centre of the massage table for easy wedding tackle access? Parlous Maximus,
Lame yes. You have been watching too much porn? Lie on your back and no hole is needed, silly. Of course massage tables do not have dick holes.
BTW, was handle Phallus Maximus already taken, and you had to spell it wrong for that reason, as you could not bear to have any other handle? Or merely the forum does not allow correct spelling of some words, as a handle?
I must be weird. I think more about perfect pussy.
Yes actually the first time I went there I took the B2 B VIP ROOM 90 MIN FJ Option for 2700 BHT but it seemed weird for the girl that I didn't want FJ and was happy with just HJ so I figured the next time I'd just go with B2 B VIP ROOM 90 MIN HJ Option for 2200 BHT and give bigger tip to the girl that way which I did and made them very happy in the end.
Depends on the tip size. If you took 2200 option, and then tipped her the extra 500, I sure she would be happy with that. LOL She does not have to share her tips with the boss.
On other hand, if your tip was only 100 more, I am sure she would have preferred the first option.
Hi.
I know it sounds lame, but it brings back nostalgia and the sheer expectation. So, any suggestions on oily massage places with a hole in the centre of the massage table for easy wedding tackle access? I've been in a femin-nazi sex prison and have a week in LOS to bang as many hotties as I can. I guess you can tell the new arrivals by the huge grin from ear to ear and wide eyed wonder of living the way men should.I've seen this porn as well. Can't say I've seen this kind of massage table. It probably doesn't exist as a service in Bangkok. There isn't really that much diversification here. I know Bangkok is supposed to be like the sex / freak capital of the world but it simply isn't. They're actually pretty standard fare and even sub-standard for western standards. This place is about cheap, quantity over quality. But if you look around enough, you can find (a little bit of) both.
For Bangkok, I like Soi 24/1. Because the girls stand outside and it's easy to inspect a lot of ok looking women. I dislike soi 26 because the girls aren't outside as much and really aren't to my spec (too Japanese, too much doll makeup and hot-hit big eye contact lenses). For nighttime, gogo's are an option... but I wouldn't stick with them after more than 1-2 nights, as many find them too be too expensive and definitely not newbie friendly (girls who spot newbies focus on higher prices and less time in the room). Honestly if I were you, I would consider Pattaya if I only had 1 week. It's just better laid out, more women. The discos have really hot women and way better prices than gogos (Insomnia disco, Pattaya is like the best P4P venue in all of Thailand). Avoid the soapies there, really bad and not worth the jizz, they are mostly for clueless Indians tourist vans. Soi Honey during the daytime is got a lot of young/attractive talent. Also the infamous soi 6 has so many girls (many young) that you are bound to find something you like.
Hi.
I know it sounds lame, but it brings back nostalgia and the sheer expectation. So, any suggestions on oily massage places with a hole in the centre of the massage table for easy wedding tackle access? I've been in a femin-nazi sex prison and have a week in LOS to bang as many hotties as I can. I guess you can tell the new arrivals by the huge grin from ear to ear and wide eyed wonder of living the way men should.As a matter of fact, that is the kind of table the proprietress (?) of Analisa Massage described while announcing the shop's recent re-opening in its new location on Sukhumvit Soi 6. Forgive me if I am violating some special rule here, but this was her way of describing it on another website:
Re: Analisa Massage, Bangkok (Sukhumvit 6).
"Welcome to our place. We open everyday from 10.00-24.00 am.
Now we provide new experience for you guys! We made a special massage table for 4 hands / 6 hands massage. We provide relaxing and erotic massage for you at the same time. We made a hole for you dick and a girl will go under table and give you hand job and mouth job for you, at the same time another give you erotic massage, body to body massage. They swap.
About 6 hands massage. 2 girls massage on your back and another girl sit under table and give you dick, balls massage by hands and mouth.
Sound interesting yet? Please come to find out how it work!"
(back to me, ET, again) Personally, I would much prefer getting a blowjob while laying in this position rather than laying flat on my back on a bed or even sitting in an ordinary couch or chair while the girl kneels on the floor in front of me, but only IF there were a large porthole cut into the face area of the table as well so I could watch the girl giving me the blowjob underneath! lol. But there is no mention of that. And as long as we're creating special tables for this purpose, why not angle the table at about 45 degrees from the floor so the guy getting a blowjob could essentially lean forward in a semi wall-type glory hole position? Then the girl could sit much more comfortably on a short stool on the other side of that angled table and not be working against gravity so much or bumping her forehead on the underside of the table trying to move up and down (or is it down and up?) on the guy's dick.
Either way, you kill half the pleasure of it if the girl is going to be unseen on the underside of that table. Cut a porthole in the face area of that table so the guy can at least see what's being done to his dick if he wants to!
Ethan Hunt123
12-28-16, 15:49
After the disaster at Addict on day 1 - I decided to stick to head to Cherry massage where I had a good experience in my last trip with Focus. This time I booked BB. Looks like she is highly in demand as I couldn't book a 2 hour session because of prior bookings.
She has a great body and friendly face. The first photo on the website is pretty close to what she looks in real life. She doesn't speak too much. But is friendly enough. What happened in the room was fairly ritual. She undressed me and led to the shower. Thorough scrubbing down followed by the mouthwash (I find that thing funny in all Thai places). Sex in multiple positions with she taking the cock up the backside like a champ. After the 1st shot. Another round of quick shower followed by a decent massage. Second shot was a BBBJ (no CIM).
Overall pretty happy with the experience. Would repeat Cherry for sure. Maybe with Yaya?
Asian Rain
12-28-16, 18:03
I've seen this porn as well. Can't say I've seen this kind of massage table. It probably doesn't exist as a service in Bangkok. There isn't really that much diversification here. I know Bangkok is supposed to be like the sex / freak capital of the world but it simply isn't. They're actually pretty standard fare and even sub-standard for western standards. This place is about cheap, quantity over quality. But if you look around enough, you can find (a little bit of) both.Just search Google Images with "glory hole massage table". Personally can't imagine being able to climax lying face down on a table, but then again there are guys who get off on the whole glory hole concept, so different strokes. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
Either way, you kill half the pleasure of it if the girl is going to be unseen on the underside of that table. Cut a porthole in the face area of that table so the guy can at least see what's being done to his dick if he wants to!I didn't try the "under the table service" but I can confirm when I was at Analisa a couple weeks ago (see report below) I noticed my massage table had this hole in the middle.
And yes it also has a hole for your head. But you'd need a light below the table to notice anything.
Christian G
12-28-16, 21:51
Hi.
I know it sounds lame, but it brings back nostalgia and the sheer expectation. So, any suggestions on oily massage places with a hole in the centre of the massage table for easy wedding tackle access? I've been in a femin-nazi sex prison and have a week in LOS to bang as many hotties as I can. I guess you can tell the new arrivals by the huge grin from ear to ear and wide eyed wonder of living the way men should.Hi. Some times ago I found this web site http://www.bangkokmilkingtable.com/ don't ask me if is good or not because I never tried and I never read a report about this service. So lets try and let us know!
Pahllus Maximus
12-29-16, 04:19
Thanks everyone. It is more to do with the anticipation while acting all cool as if it is just a massage. Once warmed up with a nice scrotal massage, it's off the table, onto a bed, get sucked then depending on my mood, usually legs up high and bang her silly, more points if she has arms long enough for a reach around whilst DFK. I tip well for good service, am polite and nice to the girls, but by good service I mean DFK, BBJCIM, no starfish factor, and a girly giggle to boot. Some of the better girls play with butthole and / or have toys etc for round 3-4. If anyone has any recommendations, PM me. I'll take up the Christian G challenge and report back.
Thanks for HUD on Pattaya. Been there ages ago, but agree, best ratio and bang for buck. The Phallus / Pahllus misnomer was originally a typo and I've never corrected it. Funny, I met Jackson in Recolletta years ago and he asked the same thing.
It will be good to be back where I do not have to deal with Femi-Nazi bullshit or horny. I've always been amazed at the good cheer and fun between fellows in LOS who have their natural biological needs met without a fuss. I've never understood why women think we cannot control our urges. It's because we are men dear, it's what we do when not building bridges, growing food, inventing stuff, building empires and a lot of other stuff women depend on yet castigate us for loving their bodies they do so much to dress up and show off to us. Except of course the 40+ battle axe types who wonder why guys run from their bristling asexual persona.
Life is good!
Christian G
12-29-16, 09:03
Some of the better girls play with butthole and / or have toys etc for round 3-4. For anal, toys, multi shot, 3 some, lesbo and more you can try Eden Club in Sukhumvit soi 7/1 http://edenbangkok.com/login/login.php long time I don't go back at Eden, probably not a good quality girls, but high PSE.
For anal, toys, multi shot, 3 some, lesbo and more you can try Eden Club in Sukhumvit soi 7/1 http://edenbangkok.com/login/login.php long time I don't go back at Eden, probably not a good quality girls, but high PSE.Frankly all of these services you can get at Tulip as well without the girls going through the same routine over and over again. I found Eden after a few repeats totally boring because the script never varies.
Christian G
12-29-16, 11:18
Frankly all of these services you can get at Tulip as well without the girls going through the same routine over and over again. I found Eden after a few repeats totally boring because the script never varies.He ask for toys also. I never heard that Tulip have toys available, for this I suggest Eden Club.
Frankly all of these services you can get at Tulip as well without the girls going through the same routine over and over again. I found Eden after a few repeats totally boring because the script never varies.+1. I was bored with the Eden script after just one visit.
3 weeks ago I decided to give Mai and Nong's Milking Table a go. I was curious and wanted to try it. The person making the booking is cool, helpful and seems to actually listen. After her advice I booked EE1 & EE3. You can check the details of the service they provide on their site. (http://www.bangkokbbw.com/). I haven't been to a massage service in BKK before but a few soapies in China. What appealed to me about these ladies is they bring that freaky table. Anyway, I really really enjoyed it.
EE1 is quite a bit older. Late 30's. Early 40's I would say but her technique is awesome. She is also pretty freaky, A+ and eager to please. She is best if paired with EE3 who is probably their hottest, they call her their best performer. Admittedly it is a bit of routine and they will do their best to have you come with BJ and HJ but with the two girls working together. One above the table and one below, building in intensity very gradually it was the most orgasm I have had in a very long time. Completely drained me. I never saw that much cum before. Something about massaging the prostate.
I didn't want to come on the table. My plan was to hold out. That didn't work. I lost it on the table after about 20 min. So fine, I thought, let it happen, enjoy it, get another shot in in the next 1.5 h. No. That wouldn't normally be difficult for me but it was impossible that night. They completely drained me. And they tried like hell to make the second one. I have an Asian butt fetish. Not a huge booty. A cute pert peachy Asian bum. Which EE3 has in spades. Neither had great breasts, both a little saggy and small but butts are my thing. Once on the bed, I had butt in my face, with the other one working me, then swoop. There were dildos in their butts. I also tried Anal with EE3 but she was too tight. It was the closest raunchy PSE I had with service providers. Different positions, lots of energy from them but I just couldn't do a second one. The next day I was also dry. Again not normal for me.
I liked it so much I went back for seconds but this time with EE3 and EE4. EE4 is much prettier than the others. Early 30's, has some baby damage, but the real problem was no chemistry. Either she didn't like me or she didn't much care for it. It was lackluster. EE3 was still hot but without EE1 who I think is one of the owners (Nong) is less the performer she was the first time. They did let me get my perv on, and they did make me come twice so I shouldn't be complaining. It just wasn't as intense as the first time.
If you haven't tried this kind of thing before and you're not afraid its going to make you gay. Haha - I thought it was great. Expensive by what I'm seeing with other posts. Do let me know if there is another pervie massage service that comes to your hotel with an actual table. I mean the type of table with two holes.
After the disaster at Addict on day 1 - I decided to stick to head to Cherry massage where I had a good experience in my last trip with Focus. This time I booked BB. Looks like she is highly in demand as I couldn't book a 2 hour session because of prior bookings.
She has a great body and friendly face. The first photo on the website is pretty close to what she looks in real life. She doesn't speak too much. But is friendly enough. What happened in the room was fairly ritual. She undressed me and led to the shower. Thorough scrubbing down followed by the mouthwash (I find that thing funny in all Thai places). Sex in multiple positions with she taking the cock up the backside like a champ. After the 1st shot. Another round of quick shower followed by a decent massage. Second shot was a BBBJ (no CIM).
Overall pretty happy with the experience. Would repeat Cherry for sure. Maybe with Yaya?I've been into Cherry a few times looking for BB but she's always busy and then goes home early. Once I was looking for BB but she wasn't there so the mamasan insisted on the line-up which is a complete waste of my time. I did like the look of Yaya but assumed she was a mum or not A+ so said I'd come back later for BB. Once the girls had left I asked the mamasan about Yaya and she told me she is A+ and baby-free so I said I'll take her. The mamasan called her back but Yaya started acting like a bit of a b1tch. The only reason I can think of is that she was sulking because I didn't choose her straight away or because she thought I was more interested in her sister (BB). Anyway, with Ninja away I thought I'd give Yaya another go but was told that she'd gone back to Isaan for a long time so who knows when she'll be back? Ninja would never act like a b1tch and is a lot better looking. Please come back!
He ask for toys also. I never heard that Tulip have toys available, for this I suggest Eden Club.You are right, they don't provide any toys at Tulip but the ladies are happy to use them if you bring some with you. A good handyman always carries his own tools 😈.
Apple Court
12-30-16, 02:43
...Once the girls had left I asked the mamasan about Yaya and she told me she is A+ and baby-free so I said I'll take her. The mamasan called her back but Yaya started acting like a bit of a b1tch. The only reason I can think of is that she was sulking because I didn't choose her straight away or because she thought I was more interested in her sister (BB).I went with Yaya several months ago. She is baby free (at least from the looks) with a nice body by my meager standards, and preferred it up the backside when I saw her (her ass was not particularly tight). She encouraged me to see her sister BB on my next visit, but have yet to do so. Yaya's attitude was good, and her service was well above average but not stellar.
I went with Yaya several months ago. She is baby free (at least from the looks) with a nice body by my meager standards, and preferred it up the backside when I saw her (her ass was not particularly tight). She encouraged me to see her sister BB on my next visit, but have yet to do so. Yaya's attitude was good, and her service was well above average but not stellar.Yaya does it all, has a pretty good skill set, but is a bit moody, and by my standards lacks in intensity. Not the best actress.
Yaya does it all, has a pretty good skill set, but is a bit moody, and by my standards lacks in intensity. Not the best actress.Moody means inconsistent moods, or not the sweetest girl around? I guess her web site pics don't really appeal to me that much.
Does anyone have any comments on Cathy or Lisa? If web site pics are realistic, they may be more my taste.
Moody means inconsistent moods, or not the sweetest girl around? I guess her web site pics don't really appeal to me that much.
Does anyone have any comments on Cathy or Lisa? If web site pics are realistic, they may be more my taste.Inconsistent moods in this case. I find Yaya to be very attractive facially and body wise. No real huge Isaan markers even though she hails from there. Her sister BB is not bad looking either but suffers from the same demeanor disorder, in fact she might even be moodier. It might be fun to see if they would go together. Having them watch each other take it up the pooper would be a hoot.
Inconsistent moods in this case. I find Yaya to be very attractive facially and body wise. No real huge Isaan markers even though she hails from there. Her sister BB is not bad looking either but suffers from the same demeanor disorder, in fact she might even be moodier. It might be fun to see if they would go together. Having them watch each other take it up the pooper would be a hoot.I can't stand moody girls and Yaya definitely came across as moody the only time I met her. I won't waste any more time going to Cherry as it seems attitude problems are the norm there. I'll have to abstain from A+ until Snow White recruits some better talent. Last time I was there Nam was the only A+ baby-free girl available and she's a bit fat with a face I didn't find doable.
I'm also thinking that with no other decent options available I might need to try Ja from Bamboo. I'll pay the 500 baht surcharge if there are no better options.
I'm also thinking that with no other decent options available I might need to try Ja from Bamboo. I'll pay the 500 baht surcharge if there are no better options.Ja is another mum I hear so I won't bother.
I can't stand moody girls and Yaya definitely came across as moody the only time I met her. I won't waste any more time going to Cherry as it seems attitude problems are the norm there. I'll have to abstain from A+ until Snow White recruits some better talent. Last time I was there Nam was the only A+ baby-free girl available and she's a bit fat with a face I didn't find doable.Talent level across the board at the PSEs is poor. And truthfully, I really don't think it will ever get that much better. The scene has changed. Gals that have a brain are working online. I don't blame them.
LoveHole69
12-30-16, 22:37
Thanks mer zues it was called sky massage you jogged my memory, maybe someone has reports on the PSE services in there.
Well Syzgies most girls cum a few times your right but I have found ones who orgasm more the most ever was my GF who I counted 40 times when I had Viagra and it took 2 plus hours and I had to stop from exhaustion she could of done a lot more I reckon but obviously her body was also very tired but I guess she just has an abnormal pussy perhaps but its definitely neatly normal women can cum many more times than males and Dan73 you do have strange ideas porn is not real and I don't think there is any probables how long you stay inside the lady's in the PSE shops you can stay inside for however long your session is and if you want to last a long time you should perhaps actually build the endurance for it such as I do the old fashioned way with an hours running and a few hundred push ups daily since vigorously sex with a PSE lady for 1 hour is no physically easier and no strange theories of yours are going to make up for that LOL.
Does anyone have any comments on Cathy or Lisa? If web site pics are realistic, they may be more my taste.I've met Cathy once back in October. She is pretty and good looking in my opinion. A lot more attractive in real life than her pics on Cherry's website. She's got beautiful boobs, a flat stomach, no baby, she is slim and got a very nice rack but I did not repeat her. Although she's got a pretty face she doesn't smile much and looks like she's constantly serious. I was not well received, basically she brought me to the room, went to take her stuffs, took off her cloth, we entered in the shower and she still didn't say anything. I remember that I was the one to start talking to her and trying to put a better ambiance. She doesn't speak much English (I know it's not a big deal for you, but maybe some other guys would be interested in her also). No anal of course otherwise I think I would have repeated and DFK was light. I fucked her twice in my 2 hour session and received a very good BBBJ before the second round. She was a lot sweeter after spending half an hour together but I had the feeling that she does not have a lot of respect for her customers or she doesn't trust us at all. At least it was my experience, she might have a better attitude with other guys. I booked her at 3 pm, she started working at 11 am that day and she already had some customers before me as there was still the smell of condom on her pussy so I guess that I might not be the only one to find her pretty. I enjoyed to fuck her and her pussy was good but it was not a super tight one. If her attitude was better I would I repeated her for sure.
Yesterday, I went to Snow White at about noon time.
Just one girl, Emmy, available at that time, but that was enough for me.
Emmy is in her late 20's, about 160 cm tall, straight, long brown hair, with a nice small be cup and 34 body size. I can't remember if she has kids, but if so, you can't see much about it. While her body is truly nice, her face didn't match quite with it. She has some chinese looks for me and it looks ok to me, albeit she uses too much make up, but most guys might find her face below average.
Anyway, Emmy is a true performer and definitely eager to please you.
Nice foreplay while taking a shower together when I got a first BBBJ, more DT like BBBJ when we were back on the bed. Emmy offers all services you can expect from a girl at Snow White: deep BBBJ, DFK, rimming and all kinds of fucking. She took a good and long ass pounding without any complaints as well as she didn't complain about the porn style like cumshot on her face.
I really like her bubbly style, although her English is rather limited, but she mainly talked in thai. When it comes to PSE IMHO you can't go wrong with Emmy.
P.S. She even remembered my name from the last time about 3 month ago.
I've met Cathy once back in October. She is pretty and good looking in my opinion. A lot more attractive in real life than her pics on Cherry's website. She's got beautiful boobs, a flat stomach, no baby, she is slim and got a very nice rack but I did not repeat her. Although she's got a pretty face she doesn't smile much and looks like she's constantly serious. I was not well received, basically she brought me to the room, went to take her stuffs, took off her cloth, we entered in the shower and she still didn't say anything. I remember that I was the one to start talking to her and trying to put a better ambiance. She doesn't speak much English (I know it's not a big deal for you, but maybe some other guys would be interested in her also). No anal of course otherwise I think I would have repeated and DFK was light. I fucked her twice in my 2 hour session and received a very good BBBJ before the second round. She was a lot sweeter after spending half an hour together but I had the feeling that she does not have a lot of respect for her customers or she doesn't trust us at all. Sounds perfect for me. It is my task to make her lighten up, once she realises I am not demanding and not very serious. I will make my normal jokes and goofing around in Thai, to make her relax if at all possible. I am up for the Challenge to get a good GFE out of her.
Though Bongkot was closed I went to Snow White again.
Just 2 girls available (2 more girls were busy), so I choosed Pim (not Pimmy). Pim is from Nakhon Phanom, 28 years (but looked older for me), has light red short hair and has a coloured tattoo on her left shoulder. She is about 155 cm tall and has a silicone enhanced see cup. IMHO it's too big for her small body as well as too hard. Same as Emmy, Pim has a very nice body, but an average face at best. She was friendly and caring but not too much talkative.
Took a shower together, but no BBBJ there. Anyway her BJ technique is very good and she takes the cock deep down the throat. She did DFK, but not very passionately, but maybe YMMV. But Pim took the buttfucking like a real pro. It seemed that she enjoyed the long and quite hard pounding of her ass, but I rather think that she was just faking. Didn't matter for me, because I enjoyed it. In the end I finished on her big tits.
All in all my money was well spent on Pim. If you like a no nonsense hardcore (butt) fuck, Pim is good to go. If you want a little bit more GFE, you better choose another girl.
Though Bongkot was closed I went to Snow White again.
Just 2 girls available (2 more girls were busy).I went last night and the lineup was surprisingly well stocked. Wonder why so few when you went?
Crocodilexp
01-01-17, 09:04
I won't waste any more time going to Cherry as it seems attitude problems are the norm there. I'll have to abstain from A+ until Snow White recruits some better talent. Last time I was there Nam was the only A+ baby-free girl available and she's a bit fat with a face I didn't find doable.At Cherry, Bowi was consistently nice and a good performer for me over several sessions. Does A+, not sure if baby-free, but no observable damage, was energetic and GFE too.
Nam at Snow White is a mixed bag. She's good for those sessions where you don't care much for her pleasure or chemistry and just want be serviced the way it suits you. Not the world's pretties face, but nice body and looks better after getting a bit messy. I really like her and can get her to do exactly what I like, but I think she might not do it on her own initiative.
Wonder why so few when you went?Probably because I went there at noon time.
Ralph Kramden
01-02-17, 04:38
While coming in on the train from the airport I discovered easy access to LaBelle. Go to Petchuburi on the MRT and use exit #1. When you exit go left along the main road, and while going there you will pass a Honda dealership and a rather large outdoor BBQ place with a Japanese name on your left. It is less than 10 minutes from the station. However, my trip was wasted because the regular girls (3000 or 3800, I don't remember which but it really didn't matter) were just average looking. There were three so-called models for 6, 7 and 8 K, with only the 6 K one appealing to me, but I can't justify spending that much when there are many other girls in town as cute but far less expensive.
Ceasers is closed for the second time in three years, probably for good this time. Emmanuel had a surprisingly good lineup on New Years Eve afternoon all with MJ noses but lots of cute girls with real big tits that looked mostly real. Their 6 K+ models were better looking than those at LaBelle. I didn't partake because of what happened below.
I received my pleasures at Merci which is at the opposite end of the strip mall from where Nataree used to be. I was impressed by a good selection of doable girls at 2 K. My first girl with smallish tits at 2 K said she was 25 but probably closer to 30, but she has never had a baby and the sex was marvelous with a BBBJ included and a GF experience. My next selection at 2. 8 K does not have a pretty face but has fantastic tits, so me being a tit guy I chose her, who said she is a believable 25. She has also not given birth and her body was very shapely especially the jugs. She offered a BBBJ and was truly my GF for 90 minutes. I liked her so much I booked her for the day after next, and the second session was better than the first because the feeling out process (no pun intended) was already completed.
I didn't check the other neighborhood establishments because Meci was all I needed.
While coming in on the train from the airport I discovered easy access to LaBelle. Go to Petchuburi on the MRT and use exit #1. When you exit go left along the main road, and while going there you will pass a Honda dealership and a rather large outdoor BBQ place with a Japanese name on your left. It is less than 10 minutes from the station. However, my trip was wasted because the regular girls (3000 or 3800, I don't remember which but it really didn't matter) were just average looking. There were three so-called models for 6, 7 and 8 K, with only the 6 K one appealing to me, but I can't justify spending that much when there are many other girls in town as cute but far less expensive.
Ceasers is closed for the second time in three years, probably for good this time. Emmanuel had a surprisingly good lineup on New Years Eve afternoon all with MJ noses but lots of cute girls with real big tits that looked mostly real. Their 6 K+ models were better looking than those at LaBelle. I didn't partake because of what happened below.
I agree re La Belle. It is quite difficult to find the really pretty girls that also are good in the room. Always been easy access though. I use motorcycle or MRT or even walk across footbridge over the canal if coming from Soi 23. In old days I was a regular at Mona Lisa. It was better than La Belle really, even quite old.
I imagine Amsterdam girls have moved to Emmanuelle and that might be reason for the improved line up. Amsterdam was my regular place, previously. Could be some Nataree girls in there as well (the legal ones).
I will check out Merci some time. I see it is right next door to Nataree. Isn't that where Subway Massage was before? It looks to have been totally reconstructed next to the Nataree building. or maybe just the facade. I have vague recollections now of going inside there once for a look when it was very new.
https://goo.gl/maps/D3tXUDR2Psu
http://thai-how.com/photo?id=8097&aid=9257
Says that Merci opened May 2015. They must benefit greatly from the Nataree closure.
Old pic of the site included (pre Merci).
Louis Tinner
01-02-17, 07:08
While coming in on the train from the airport I discovered easy access to LaBelle. Go to Petchuburi on the MRT and use exit #1. When you exit go left along the main road, and while going there you will pass a Honda dealership and a rather large outdoor BBQ place with a Japanese name on your left. It is less than 10 minutes from the station. However, my trip was wasted because the regular girls (3000 or 3800, I don't remember which but it really didn't matter) were just average looking. There were three so-called models for 6, 7 and 8 K, with only the 6 K one appealing to me, but I can't justify spending that much when there are many other girls in town as cute but far less expensive.
Ceasers is closed for the second time in three years, probably for good this time. Emmanuel had a surprisingly good lineup on New Years Eve afternoon all with MJ noses but lots of cute girls with real big tits that looked mostly real. Their 6 K+ models were better looking than those at LaBelle. I didn't partake because of what happened below..What is the name of the lady with the big jugs in Merci massage?
Thanks.
Ralph Kramden
01-02-17, 07:32
I agree re La Belle. It is quite difficult to find the really pretty girls that also are good in the room. Always been easy access though. I use motorcycle or MRT or even walk across footbridge over the canal if coming from Soi 23. In old days I was a regular at Mona Lisa. It was better than La Belle really, even quite old.
I imagine Amsterdam girls have moved to Emmanuelle and that might be reason for the improved line up. Amsterdam was my regular place, previously. Could be some Nataree girls in there as well (the legal ones).
I will check out Merci some time. I see it is right next door to Nataree. Isn't that where Subway Massage was before? It looks to have been totally reconstructed next to the Nataree building. or maybe just the facade. I have vague recollections now of going inside there once for a look when it was very new.
https://goo.gl/maps/D3tXUDR2Psu
http://thai-how.com/photo?id=8097&aid=9257
Says that Merci opened May 2015. They must benefit greatly from the Nataree closure.
Old pic of the site included (pre Merci).I tried Mona Lisa once too and had a reasonably good experience, but LaBelle is off my list for now. Yes, I agree Emmanuel probably picked up some of the Amsterdam girls, a place I always liked until the end days because I always got a BBBJ in and out of the tub, but never so at Emmanuel.
Yes, Merci is the old Subway with modern rooms. It did not pick up any of the sideline Nataree girls but maybe some of the older fishbowl types. Perhaps Alaina got some of the young / cute ones because of the same ownership as Nataree. Merci seems to be off the radar screen of most punters which was fine with me because the times I went there I was practically the only one in the place. It is certainly off the Japanese / Korean radar screen and mob scene for now which is excellent.
Merci seems to be off the radar screen of most punters which was fine with me because the times I went there I was practically the only one in the place. It is certainly off the Japanese / Korean radar screen and mob scene for now which is excellent.Why would it be off the radar for Japanese and Koreans? Seemed like the most obvious target, along with Thais and Chinese.
I had a papasan Oscar that I knew very well at La Belle and from previous places he worked at. Unfortunately his taste was totally different to mine as he liked white skinned surgeries girls that were just ugly to me, and had little clue about girls that were prettier for me, and which girls were dick scared. I find cheer persons in general very useless until you find the special one that understands your taste very well, and has no corrupt deals with girls. LOL.
I used to be a regular of Jip at La Belle till her price went up and fun levels went down. Never took her again after her unnecessary and ugly nose job. Never found a suitable replacement either. The line up was always too small. For some reason, I generally did better at Amsterdam perhaps because the line up was bigger, so more choice, and for a long time had a regular very pretty, tall, and curvy girl, with exaggerated waist to thigh ratio.
I previously thought that La Defense had some really good lookers, however service levels seemed poor and they were not very used to Farangs. I seems very difficult to find really pretty great performers in the modern day.
Have not done a Soapy girl for a few months, so need something new like Merci for example, and obviously should return to Emmanuelle.
There's been a wave of negativity about Addict recently, so I thought I'd make up my own mind by sampling with my personal probe.
Line-up was about 9 girls, with Sandy acting as the Mamasan. Apart from some dogs who shouldn't even be there, there was this hot chick who'd been eyeballing me last time, so I figured I'd give her a shot. Turns out her name was La La.
She looks like her picture on the website except her camera smile is contrived, whereas her real-life smile is absolutely charming. 25 years old, no baby, real A-cup tits (but a full A-cup), maybe 1 m58. Not skinny but not fat either: I would say pretty healthy body mass index by normal standards. One small tattoo on her left shoulder, nothing bothersome, probably religious for good luck..Don't see a LaLa on Addict? Lisa or Yaya.
Ralph Kramden
01-02-17, 14:22
Why would it be off the radar for Japanese and Koreans? Seemed like the most obvious target, along with Thais and Chinese.
I had a papasan Oscar that I knew very well at La Belle and from previous places he worked at. Unfortunately his taste was totally different to mine as he liked white skinned surgeries girls that were just ugly to me, and had little clue about girls that were prettier for me, and which girls were dick scared. I find cheer persons in general very useless until you find the special one that understands your taste very well, and has no corrupt deals with girls. LOL.
I used to be a regular of Jip at La Belle till her price went up and fun levels went down. Never took her again after her unnecessary and ugly nose job. Never found a suitable replacement either. The line up was always too small. For some reason, I generally did better at Amsterdam perhaps because the line up was bigger, so more choice, and for a long time had a regular very pretty, tall, and curvy girl, with exaggerated waist to thigh ratio.
I previously thought that La Defense had some really good lookers, however service levels seemed poor and they were not very used to Farangs. I seems very difficult to find really pretty great performers in the modern day.
Have not done a Soapy girl for a few months, so need something new like Merci for example, and obviously should return to Emmanuelle.I don't know the why, but in years past the Japanese would flood into town after the 28th and quickly make their way to Nataree. They and the Koreans weren't doing the same at Merci last week. Perhaps the versions of the ISG in their language are advising Thermae, which is absolutely fine with me.
but most guys might find her face below average.Actually I find Emmy to have the best face by far at SW. She is the least "Isaan" looking of the gals in there. Bonus would take second place.
Eric Swiss
01-03-17, 03:30
Don't see a LaLa on Addict? Lisa or Yaya.Just go to the official website:
http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/
Click on the "Staff" page, and use your browser's search function to find the text string "LALA". She is about two-thirds of the way down the page. You have to give the staff page time to load, their server is slow. I saw a Yaya there but no Lisa. Are you sure we are talking about the same website?
She has some chinese looks for me and it looks ok to me, albeit she uses too much make up, but most guys might find her face below average.
Anyway, Emmy is a true performer and definitely eager to please you.
I also found her to be an enthusiastic performer, even when she first started (when I posted a review), but could well have improved a lot with experience. Since I sessioned a couple of times, clearly her looks were well ABOVE average, for the SW line up. Not to stunning but no one is.
I don't know if she really looks Chinese or not, but I guess face is little more rounded than I normally choose, and I prefer smaller nose.
Just go to the official website:
http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/
Click on the "Staff" page, and use your browser's search function to find the text string "LALA". She is about two-thirds of the way down the page. You have to give the staff page time to load, their server is slow. I saw a Yaya there but no Lisa. Are you sure we are talking about the same website?You're right. I had bookmarked another way to access their staff page. That page hasn't been updated in months.
+1. I was bored with the Eden script after just one visit.There are some good reasons to give Eden a wide berth these days (like the total lack of quality in their line-up) but this isn't one of them. Maybe we need to remind people that in all these places, it's your money and so there's no need to follow anybody's program except your own. I had plenty of nice experiences at Eden back when it was still good, and then at Devil's Den in Pattaya after that, but it was only because 1) I picked both (or all 3) girls and 2) I took charge and directed the whole thing. And usually, to be honest, because I bought them a bunch of tequilas. Never underestimate the power of alcohol to get these girls off their script and really into it.
Eric Swiss
01-04-17, 05:13
You're right. I had bookmarked another way to access their staff page. That page hasn't been updated in months.Glad I could be of help! There's quite a bit of turnover so it's good to have the latest batch of pics.
I went to Sky Massage near Sukhumvit 38 shortly after noon time.
When I arrived there were 2 girls available, none from the pics of the website, both kind of mature.
I took Lena / Reena (unfortunately not the one from Tulip). Reena is 35 years old, from Udon Thani, shoulder long brown hair, 155 cm tall at the most, a cup, 34 body size, no notable signs of giving birth and a rather below average face.
When I choosed her, Reena was both surprised as well as happy and started talking immediately. Words came out of her mouth like water bubbled our of a leaking pipe. She simply didn't stop.
In the room procedure as usual. We showered together, she washed me up, but didn't give a BBBJ. On the bed I got irritated because Reena insisted on giving me an oil massage. Usually girls at the PSE don't do this anymore. Obviously Reena knows a thing about oil massage, because she did pretty good IMHO and even gave a full body slide on me. But even while giving massage she didn't stop chatting. It really got me annoying.
Finally she had mercy on me, stopped talking and started sucking my cock. A massage that started quite odd completely turned around to something great. Great BBBJ, good DFK, nice rimming, relentless riding my cock like the infamous duracell bunny. Before she didn't stop talking, now she just didn't stop fucking. Pounding both her pussy and her ass, Reena always responded well (although she mentioned that it was her first time getting funked in the ass). After quite some great fucking, I finished with COF.
Shovered again, got washed, dressed up and left the shop after one and a half "entertaining" hours. I definitely enjoyed my time there.
Reena is for sure a top notch butt fuck, but for many guys she probably is a no go giving her age and her average (at best) look.
LoveHole69
01-05-17, 16:57
Just made a post and my battery went dead as I sent so apologizes if this comes up twice.
Zauberfree that was interesting ant sky massage and Reena just two lady's when I went there but they looked like 45 not 35 otherwise I would of tried as they were both eager for a tag team with my buddy. I'll look for another tag team bud on Craigslist or somewhere and check out the shop again when I go to BKK soon, with the mango surcharge I'll be giving that a miss.
Regarding the decline is service and looks at PSE shops I think people should check out other avenues of exploration, while a plus girls are a minority iv had some reasonable butt fucks with regular bar girls and also the odd good one in the Soi near food land which has been previously discussed.
A lot of lady's can be butt fucked if they look slutty or are drunk it's like the post about Eden and buying them tequilas a lady well plied with alcohol if she is made nice and wet and horny will drop the script quite fast and even tho I have a rather large Sicilian schooner iv popped it up the wrong hole of quite a few, most will moan and squirt a bit but usually soon submit relax and enjoy it and there's nothing like doing the dirty and popping a lady's plum who doesn't usually do that, far more satisfying than some loose pro anal performer.
LoveHole69
01-05-17, 17:00
I would not say Emmy looks Chinese just her eyes but not her overall look plus with the nose job I immediately would loose interest I forgot who else dislikes them but I agree they really turn me off and remind me of Michael jack or a lady boy even tho she is not my type I would probably try if it weren't for the nose.
So I'm going to need some good suggestions for my upcoming trip.
Member #4591
01-05-17, 19:52
One week before on the 24th, I decided to pop into Snow White on Soi 26. The line up was pretty krap for 6 PM on a Sunday. Anyways, out of the corner of my eye, I spotted a cute little bird with white skin and an amazing chest. It turns out she was 22 from Isaan and her name was Ninja. Beautiful rear end, beautiful man mades, multiple positions, lovely from behind, and just a sweet heart to talk with. No baby and a very firm stomachs and beautiful to see in forward cowgirl. She won't last long guys, so take advantage. Photo from chat.
Service: 9/10.
Looks: 8/10.
Atitude: 10/10.
Repeat: Hell yes!The post that started it all! Just thought I would bump this up. Brings back memories for me. We still chat sometimes but she's so addictive, I've had to stop seeing her. Guys, I came so close to pulling her out of SW forever but in the end, we decided it was a bad idea. She was one of my 10 K dates on multiple occasions and just such a sweetheart. Anyways, as my original review stated, she won't last long and that seems to be the case at present.
The post that started it all! Just thought I would bump this up. Brings back memories for me. We still chat sometimes but she's so addictive, I've had to stop seeing her. Guys, I came so close to pulling her out of SW forever but in the end, we decided it was a bad idea. She was one of my 10 K dates on multiple occasions and just such a sweetheart. Anyways, as my original review stated, she won't last long and that seems to be the case at present.Was in SW the other day. Ninja was there, appears to have put on a kilo or two. From looking at her body type my guess is she will be a tad pudgy sooner rather than later. As we often say, " a starch bomb ready to explode. " But there are some dudes that are ok with that. Had two sessions with her. Both not really all the memorable. Body is ok now, although there is very little muscle tone, skill set was meh (of course this was a few months ago and early in her "career" A+ was not on the menu (she said I was too big and asked me in Thai why men like anal), no problem for me. She was very nice but lacked the intensity and nastiness I want in a P4 P gal. I have had many other opportunities to take her but have passed. So I won't be in competition with you guys! Just don't find she compares in any way to Golf or Opor at Tulip. Golf will DT you and gag on your pecker in the shower then spread your cheeks and rim you so deeply you think her tongue will come out of your mouth. When Opor grabs your unit, forces it in her rice exit, gets out her vibrator, goes after her clit with it, begs you to do her as hard as you can, looks you straight in the eye, and tells you how much she loves guys to do this to her; well, that is it my friends. Just about the perfect scenario for me with a P4 P gal. Raunch, filth, lust, intensity, exactly what I go to a brothel for. And very rare in Thailand. I remember Opor's "sister" Pond used to tell me how much she liked double penetration and how she just could not get enough sex. A lusty over-sexed woman with a truly filthy mind is one of the only true joys on this planet. Mind you, I would never want to date or live with a woman like this. I just want to pay to have sex with them. So I would agree BKKdog, if you are looking for a "sweetheart" then Ninja might be your ideal girl. But honestly, the last thing I want at a brothel is a sweetheart.
I would not say Emmy looks Chinese just her eyes but not her overall look plus with the nose job I immediately would loose interest I forgot who else dislikes them but I agree they really turn me off and remind me of Michael jack or a lady boy even tho she is not my type I would probably try if it weren't for the nose.
So I'm going to need some good suggestions for my upcoming trip.She looks far better in person than she does in her photos. Also her nose job is not really a bad one. She does not have the "Michael Jackson. " As stated before, she is probably the least Isaan looking of the gals there.
She looks far better in person than she does in her photos. Also her nose job is not really a bad one. She does not have the "Michael Jackson. " As stated before, she is probably the least Isaan looking of the gals there.Her performance was fine for me but looks are not enough to keep pulling me regularly. Nose is rather a little too obvious is just one aspect, as I prefer smaller face. However definitely better looking than most of her competition in the shop, for me. So I am sort of sitting on the fence.
I can't recall her height but looks a bit short. Would that be right or maybe false impression?
I recall you were not very complimentary about her service when you first tried her, where I thought she was good fun and enthusiastic (no complaints from me). No doubt lacking in experience and some special skills that you like may not have been there. These days you don't mention her service.
So did you try her again and did she improve or not?
I recall you were not very complimentary about her service when you first tried her, where I thought she was good fun and enthusiastic (no complaints from me). No doubt lacking in experience and some special skills that you like may not have been there. These days you don't mention her service.
So did you try her again and did she improve or not?Had her twice and quite a bit of time had passed between sessions. Body is good. Main thing is no baby and she is not fat. Her skills were fine and improved during the time between the sessions, no real complaint there and she unlike many gals is quite adept at the fine art of manual stimulation. She told me one of her customers schooled her on it. But like so many providers these days the intensity level was just not there for me. She is very nice and easy going, but as I said in my post about Ninja, that is just not what I am looking for in a P4 P gal.
Nam at Snow White is a mixed bag. nice body Was looking for her the other day based on your report. When I saw her my response was, "Yikes!" To my eyes she is big and fat. Of the SW gals Bonus by my standards has by far the best body. Guess we all have different eyes.
Had her twice and quite a bit of time had passed between sessions. Body is good. Main thing is no baby and she is not fat. Her skills were fine and improved during the time between the sessions, no real complaint there and she unlike many gals is quite adept at the fine art of manual stimulation. She told me one of her customers schooled her on it. But like so many providers these days the intensity level was just not there for me. She is very nice and easy going, but as I said in my post about Ninja, that is just not what I am looking for in a P4 P gal.Body was fine for me.
Yes we each look for different things. I am not interested in "intensity" (hard and fast) nor in manual stimulation. I might be considered a slow motion customer. It's quite a long time since I booked her as well.
On a tangent:
One of my favourite girls from Crazy House liked to be fucked with intensity so was difficult for me to really go with her level of intensity. Managed to give her a pop only sometimes but was not easy. She did not cum very easy. Perhaps need special exercises to improve sexual fitness, however I am not a "lie there and be serviced" type at all. I normally go a long time by going slowly. Loosing 14 kilos was a large boost to my sexual powers, so don't have to be covered in sweat any more. My problem is not doing any significant exercise to keep in shape and maintain aerobic fitness. So that needs fixing.
Young girls like older guys to keep body in reasonable shape and have reasonable fitness levels, quite commonly, I think. Of course a large percentage of mongers are too out of shape, or possibly just fat gut. One regular girl has said to me, keep the weight off, or she might throw me on the scrap heap. LOL
Member #4591
01-06-17, 03:21
Was in SW the other day. Ninja was there, appears to have put on a kilo or two. From looking at her body type my guess is she will be a tad pudgy sooner rather than later. As we often say, " a starch bomb ready to explode. " But there are some dudes that are ok with that. Had two sessions with her. Both not really all the memorable. Body is ok now, although there is very little muscle tone, skill set was meh (of course this was a few months ago and early in her "career" A+ was not on the menu (she said I was too big and asked me in Thai why men like anal), no problem for me. She was very nice but lacked the intensity and nastiness I want in a P4 P gal. I have had many other opportunities to take her but have passed. So I won't be in competition with you guys! Just don't find she compares in any way to Golf or Opor at Tulip. Golf will DT you and gag on your pecker in the shower then spread your cheeks and rim you so deeply you think her tongue will come out of your mouth. When Opor grabs your unit, forces it in her rice exit, gets out her vibrator, goes after her clit with it, begs you to do her as hard as you can, looks you straight in the eye, and tells you how much she loves guys to do this to her; well, that is it my friends. Just about the perfect scenario for me with a P4 P gal. Raunch, filth, lust, intensity, exactly what I go to a brothel for. And very rare in Thailand. I remember Opor's "sister" Pond used to tell me how much she liked double penetration and how she just could not get enough sex. A lusty over-sexed woman with a truly filthy mind is one of the only true joys on this planet. Mind you, I would never want to date or live with a woman like this. I just want to pay to have sex with them. So I would agree BKKdog, if you are looking for a "sweetheart" then Ninja might be your ideal girl. But honestly, the last thing I want at a brothel is a sweetheart.Fully agree. What you describe has never even happened to me with any lady at SW. Actually, I don't consider SW to even be a PSE oily. Yes you can get A+ there and some times even BBFS but I have never read or experienced anything like you described at any other place except Tulip. Tulip is a unique stand alone place where I go when I want an experience exactly as you have just described. That is a true PSE.
Was in SW the other day. Ninja was there, appears to have put on a kilo or two. From looking at her body type my guess is she will be a tad pudgy sooner rather than later. As we often say, " a starch bomb ready to explode. " But there are some dudes that are ok with that. Had two sessions with her. Both not really all the memorable. Body is ok now, although there is very little muscle tone, skill set was meh (of course this was a few months ago and early in her "career" A+ was not on the menu (she said I was too big and asked me in Thai why men like anal), no problem for me. She was very nice but lacked the intensity and nastiness I want in a P4 P gal. I have had many other opportunities to take her but have passed. So I won't be in competition with you guys! Just don't find she compares in any way to Golf or Opor at Tulip. Golf will DT you and gag on your pecker in the shower then spread your cheeks and rim you so deeply you think her tongue will come out of your mouth. When Opor grabs your unit, forces it in her rice exit, gets out her vibrator, goes after her clit with it, begs you to do her as hard as you can, looks you straight in the eye, and tells you how much she loves guys to do this to her; well, that is it my friends. Just about the perfect scenario for me with a P4 P gal. Raunch, filth, lust, intensity, exactly what I go to a brothel for. And very rare in Thailand. I remember Opor's "sister" Pond used to tell me how much she liked double penetration and how she just could not get enough sex. A lusty over-sexed woman with a truly filthy mind is one of the only true joys on this planet. Mind you, I would never want to date or live with a woman like this. I just want to pay to have sex with them. So I would agree BKKdog, if you are looking for a "sweetheart" then Ninja might be your ideal girl. But honestly, the last thing I want at a brothel is a sweetheart.Ninja is definitely putting on weight and knows it. She mentioned it to me and I thought she definitely is but didn't say anything. I think the kind thing to do is to confirm her weight gain concerns and give her advice on keeping her weight down. She tried to DT me once at my request but almost puked and gave up. At least she tried, which adds to the whole 'sweetheart' thing.
Was looking for her the other day based on your report. When I saw her my response was, "Yikes!" To my eyes she is big and fat. Of the SW gals Bonus by my standards has by far the best body. Guess we all have different eyes.Does Bonus take a finger in the arse? She looks nice but there are girls in other oilies and soapies who look better. I know she's not A+ but if she at least took a finger I'd try her out.
Does Bonus take a finger in the arse? She looks nice but there are girls in other oilies and soapies who look better. I know she's not A+ but if she at least took a finger I'd try her out.She's been pretty phobic about it since she was injured by some horrid dude a few years back. I certainly understand that. So I am not sure. Have not tried. She has no issue with a tongue there though. She rims, gives a good BBBJ, and moves amazingly well during the deed as well. Not the most bubbly personality, but she seems to at least enjoy the act somewhat. I would say give her a whirl.
Fully agree. What you describe has never even happened to me with any lady at SW. Actually, I don't consider SW to even be a PSE oily. Yes you can get A+ there and some times even BBFS but I have never read or experienced anything like you described at any other place except Tulip. Tulip is a unique stand alone place where I go when I want an experience exactly as you have just described. That is a true PSE.Back in the "good ole days" I used to have great PSE experiences at SW. Min (Tom from Tulip), Cream, and lest we never forget Momay who was just one of the best ever. Quite a few others but names from 5 + years ago ellude me. I would say that when SW and Mango first opened they were PSE just like Tulip. Tulip is really the only place that has been able to maintain that standard.
She's been pretty phobic about it since she was injured by some horrid dude a few years back. I certainly understand that. So I am not sure. Have not tried. She has no issue with a tongue there though. She rims, gives a good BBBJ, and moves amazingly well during the deed as well. Not the most bubbly personality, but she seems to at least enjoy the act somewhat. I would say give her a whirl.I'll ask next time I'm there but as I'm not into giving or receiving rim jobs, if the answer is no I can't see any reason for choosing her. If it's just a suck and fuck with a good looking girl, wondering around soi 24/1 would be a better choice.
Bongkot is now closed. Seems some of the gals will move to Snow White and some to Tulip. Was also told that Sky was to be closing yesterday, although that is not confirmed.
Bongkot is now closed. Seems some of the gals will move to Snow White and some to Tulip. Was also told that Sky was to be closing yesterday, although that is not confirmed.Lots of people want to open Massage parlors, but there are so many already. Far too many MPs for all of them to be viable. Sky has not been around that long, right?
I wonder if these massage parlors fail due to failing to get enough good looking girls, or if the location being a little unusual, prevents guys from going to have a look?
I must admit I would probably not go to Sky location, or Bongkot, unless looking for a particular girl. It's much easier when there are several MPs near each other.
So I am thinking location of the MP is a major factor, followed by failure to have enough of the right girls there to build a momentum. Any other theories why these MPs would close?
Could it be that customer numbers are down, in many of the well known MPs, despite prices staying down for so long? So starting a new MP is very tough right now? In my personal circumstance, I have very few favorite MP girls remaining (also very few favorite bargirls remaining) and have attended MPs much less frequently in recent months. Some girls retired or left their place of employ, some dropped off LINE contact list (e. G. Changed phone number and / or phone), I assume some girls have stopped P4 P (boyfriend?) or would have contacted me, most likely. Really exciting girls get scarcer.
There is a general economic downturn in Thailand since the military government, according to most locals, and even traffic jams have declined. Is there also a downturn in mongering activities, since the military government? I have no clue why it would be relevant, other than tourists get scared of almost anything, whether political, floods, bombs, Sars, Bird flue, etc.
FritsVanegter
01-08-17, 04:26
Hello,
It seems that finally some of the businesses are beginning to realize that they not keeping up with customer expectations will in the end put them out of business.
Hotel staff at breakfast not being able to understand the very basic questions you are posing and still bring you the wrong food. WiFi signal just very bad. Towels with-holes. Coffeemaker provided but no coffee. Staff texting all the time.
Especially in the big cities like BKK and HCMC prices going up and service going down.
My hotel in HCMC, free WiFi Everywhere? In the lobby so so in the room disconnecting all the time while trying to book a flight! After you tell the staff they will be on their phones within a minute. No way get it fixed! But they just don't care.
If a girl in a MP has a bad attitude just mention her name and if there are other customers with the same experience keep naming her and the shop that accepts her bad attitude. We are not paying peanuts anymore.
Greetings,
Frits.
Back in the "good ole days" I used to have great PSE experiences at SW. Min (Tom from Tulip), Cream, and lest we never forget Momay who was just one of the best ever. Quite a few others but names from 5 + years ago ellude me. I would say that when SW and Mango first opened they were PSE just like Tulip. Tulip is really the only place that has been able to maintain that standard.Benz gives a good PSE session when I find her in Snow White. Almost all the same routine as Tulip girls. She just doesn't even attempt to give a good massage in between pops. That doesn't bother me that much because that's not I'm there for. But I am usually surprised with a few of the Tulip girl's massage skills (Golf, and Boom). I'm usually amazed that they have the energy to give a firm massage while I rest (and take a look at all the tissues, towels, oil, lube, and condoms strewn everywhere).
Bongkot is now closed. Seems some of the gals will move to Snow White and some to Tulip. Was also told that Sky was to be closing yesterday, although that is not confirmed.Snow White already has issues with not having enough rooms so I can't see how having a load of new girls working in the same location is going to work.
Snow White already has issues with not having enough rooms so I can't see how having a load of new girls working in the same location is going to work.Seems that will be a problem. Not sure what they will do.
Lots of people want to open Massage parlors, but there are so many already. Far too many MPs for all of them to be viable. Sky has not been around that long, right?
I wonder if these massage parlors fail due to failing to get enough good looking girls, or if the location being a little unusual, prevents guys from going to have a look?
I must admit I would probably not go to Sky location, or Bongkot, unless looking for a particular girl. It's much easier when there are several MPs near each other.
So I am thinking location of the MP is a major factor, followed by failure to have enough of the right girls there to build a momentum. Any other theories why these MPs would close?
Could it be that customer numbers are down, in many of the well known MPs, despite prices staying down for so long? So starting a new MP is very tough right now? In my personal circumstance, I have very few favorite MP girls remaining (also very few favorite bargirls remaining) and have attended MPs much less frequently in recent months. Some girls retired or left their place of employ, some dropped off LINE contact list (e. G. Changed phone number and / or phone), I assume some girls have stopped P4 P (boyfriend?) or would have contacted me, most likely. Really exciting girls get scarcer.
There is a general economic downturn in Thailand since the military government, according to most locals, and even traffic jams have declined. Is there also a downturn in mongering activities, since the military government? I have no clue why it would be relevant, other than tourists get scared of almost anything, whether political, floods, bombs, Sars, Bird flue, etc.I think all of your theories are correct. The "scene" is rapidly moving online. Gals ca be their own boss, not have to sit around a MP, and work when they want. While there will continue to be MPs for a time I think the quality will continue to decline. Sadly I think the move online will also see more price increases and service that might not be up to what we expect. Hope I am wrong.
I think all of your theories are correct. The "scene" is rapidly moving online. Gals ca be their own boss, not have to sit around a MP, and work when they want. While there will continue to be MPs for a time I think the quality will continue to decline. Sadly I think the move online will also see more price increases and service that might not be up to what we expect. Hope I am wrong.Sky was opened by Nong, the boss of Snowhite. I don't think it was a location issue because the shop is only a few steps away from Tulip. However the girls working there were definitely the SW B' Team. Nong has never been lucky opening a second shop. She unsuccessfully tried Snowhite 2 which later became Candy massage. (Where she was part-owner) Neither of them worked. Bongkot was under the same management as Tulip. I think the reasons are two-fold. Like second restaurants of a famous chef are usually not as good as the original, the same goes for MPs because the don't apply the same standards. The other reason is definitely the down turn in the economy. This means the good girls all go and work abroad. Malaysia, Korea, Hong Kong and Bahrain being the top destinations. Singapore is high on the list, particularly if the girls get a work permit for one of the Geylang houses. So far I have not found one Sukhumvit PSE shop MP girl on WeChat or CL. This seems to be more the domain for freelancers, bar girls and regular MP girls that want to make money on the side but I found it to be a total crap shoot.
Thankfully a number of the previous "super stars" are still around and are keeping in contact with their regulars. They might go abroad for a while but love to hook up when they are back in Bangkok for R&R which suits me just fine.
So is anyone aware of what site or app is being used for these girls transitioning out of the shops? I've tried Wechat and Craigslist, but have had the same kind of mixed bag results like everyone else. I'm just going to try and collect line contacts when I like a girl in the shop. But there has to be some sight they are using to keep drumming up new business. I've even used the Dek Sideline websites a bit, but that's even tougher work deciphering the posts and finding farang friendly girls that speak some English. Even those websites are full of Katoeys. I guess that's a good indicator of what the locals are into, 555. For sure none of the former shop girls are spending too much time on dating sites. I actually like meeting girls from Thai friendly as its more of a genuine experience, but for the most part they aren't full time pros. But it takes a lot of effort before you meet the girl. I haven't struck out on getting laid on any date yet, so the effort might be worth it for some. It's more usually a GFE experience, but not always, LOL!
Anyway, it would be nice to have some of these former superstars available outside of the shop. If I come up on any info I'll bring it back to here.
Member #4591
01-08-17, 08:03
But geez, I see comments like "the post that started it all!" referring to Ninja. Seriously, Ninja. Pudgy faced, fake tits, average looking. Sure she's cute and performs well, but if she is the supposed gold standard I feel sorry for you guys who think so. As the world economies begin to tank smooci will become a mecca for hot quality.Her tits are not fake and we all know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If she is not that good looking to you so what? The majority of customers like her and she is always busy and difficult to book. You've seem to made fun of my post but after I reviewed her, she became super busy and popular. So none of us could care less about what you think. Go and see whoever you like anywhere you like. I may think your favorite provider is black like an African with pigeon toes but you could and should care less about what I think. Don't come on here and insult others tastes.
Last night I read a passionate take from one of the members here on Opor at Tulip, which made me slightly reassess my plan for next month.
What about you? Seems you think Opor at Tulip is a queen of beauty. I on the other hand, think she is a complete dog but who am I to critisize you because you like her. I'm sure you have not even been with Ninja, in fact I'm 100% sure of that.
Sky was opened by Nong, the boss of Snowhite. I don't think it was a location issue because the shop is only a few steps away from Tulip. However the girls working there were definitely the SW B' Team. Nong has never been lucky opening a second shop. She unsuccessfully tried Snowhite 2 which later became Candy massage. (Where she was part-owner) Neither of them worked. Bongkot was under the same management as Tulip. I think the reasons are two-fold. Like second restaurants of a famous chef are usually not as good as the original, the same goes for MPs because the don't apply the same standards. The other reason is definitely the down turn in the economy. This means the good girls all go and work abroad. Malaysia, Korea, Hong Kong and Bahrain being the top destinations. Singapore is high on the list, particularly if the girls get a work permit for one of the Geylang houses. So far I have not found one Sukhumvit PSE shop MP girl on WeChat or CL. This seems to be more the domain for freelancers, bar girls and regular MP girls that want to make money on the side but I found it to be a total crap shoot.
Thankfully a number of the previous "super stars" are still around and are keeping in contact with their regulars. They might go abroad for a while but love to hook up when they are back in Bangkok for R&R which suits me just fine.Sky was right next to Nong's legit massage shop. The owner offered her a very low price per month for the lease on the property that was to become Sky. Guess it was not low enough. I would agree Mick that the lookers who are also performers are going abroad these days. I was told that in order to keep some lookers around some of the shops on 24/1 are allowing gals to work 2 weeks a month. Then they have time to go work abroad.
Member #4591
01-08-17, 10:45
To me "cute" does not go with "average". So which is it? Have you actually tried her or met her? I have not met her myself. Average in Snow White is certainly not going to be called cute. Even average outside SW is not very special.
He absolutely has not even met her. With his 5 post count he is talking like he has been here for many years. Anyways, I addressed this in the proper massage thread. I don't know what it is about newbies that bothers me so much. I guess it's when they come on here preaching like this guy did. He did not even have 1 session with Ninja.
Sky was right next to Nong's legit massage shop. The owner offered her a very low price per month for the lease on the property that was to become Sky. Guess it was not low enough. I would agree Mick that the lookers who are also performers are going abroad these days. I was told that in order to keep some lookers around some of the shops on 24/1 are allowing gals to work 2 weeks a month. Then they have time to go work abroad.They all dream of making big money overseas. Some do, most don't. Most girls that go to Malaysia will fall foul of the corrupt police over there. They go and party with the girls for free and then one day they get raided and thrown in the slammer. Of course they can buy themselves free which means they hand over all their savings. One of my all time favorites and good friend is now working legally in Singapore in Geylang. Makes good money because she is the top girl at the shop. However she is committed there for 2 years and only gets one day off every 3 months. They are not allowed to leave the shop overnight. No outside bookings. Yes, can earn a bundle but also is a virtual prisoner. And once the time is up they cannot return for another stint. Some of the girls go with an "agent" abroad. They first have to work for free until they have paid up the fee and the cost of travel. Other countries such as Korea are starting to clamp down on Thai girls working in the local massage parlors. So all in all I think the lure of going abroad will slow down soon with the risks becoming to great.
Lots of people want to open Massage parlors, but there are so many already. Far too many MPs for all of them to be viable. Sky has not been around that long, right?
I wonder if these massage parlors fail due to failing to get enough good looking girls, or if the location being a little unusual, prevents guys from going to have a look?
I must admit I would probably not go to Sky location, or Bongkot, unless looking for a particular girl. It's much easier when there are several MPs near each other.
So I am thinking location of the MP is a major factor, followed by failure to have enough of the right girls there to build a momentum. Any other theories why these MPs would close?The basic answer of how they go out of business: market saturation. Not enough buyers for the product that they have can produce, for them to make a worthwhile profit. The question though is why is that the case? Probably incompetent / inexperienced management / owners. People who don't understand the market, and don't understand how to market to potential customers.
I live nearby Sky massage and walked past it many times, but never thought about going in. The problem I have is that most-times the quality of the women is so bad, it's just awkward going in and leaving. And that's that case with most any oilly or semi-legit massage parlor. Which is why I need to see the girls standing outside. But the pollution levels at that part of Sukh (because of how the BTS platform traps it) are insane and the girls don't want to sit outside there. Also, too much foot traffic for girls to be standing outside screaming "massager mister" too. So it was just a really bad location.
They would have done better if they could have moved to a side street (away from the pollution and police pressure to make Bangkok look more family friendly). If that was the case, real women (not fake photos on a website doesn't help bring in customers, certainly not repeat customers who get mad after seeing what the women really looks like when they show up in person) would have been on display, and they would have established customers. But they never could establish customers, so they went out of business and closed after ultra-high season.
Member #4591
01-08-17, 11:20
They all dream of making big money overseas. Some do, most don't. Most girls that go to Malaysia will fall foul of the corrupt police over there. They go and party with the girls for free and then one day they get raided and thrown in the slammer. Of course they can buy themselves free which means they hand over all their savings. One of my all time favorites and good friend is now working legally in Singapore in Geylang. Makes good money because she is the top girl at the shop. However she is committed there for 2 years and only gets one day off every 3 months. They are not allowed to leave the shop overnight. No outside bookings. Yes, can earn a bundle but also is a virtual prisoner. And once the time is up they cannot return for another stint. Some of the girls go with an "agent" abroad. They first have to work for free until they have paid up the fee and the cost of travel. Other countries such as Korea are starting to clamp down on Thai girls working in the local massage parlors. So all in all I think the lure of going abroad will slow down soon with the risks becoming to great.Can't be that legal if they can't leave the shop, can't return after their 90 day stint, and only gets one day off in 3 months. Obviously she is shown as working in a completely different location and job description on her work permit. I would also bet my life that she only has a 90 day visa and no permission to work. Far from working legally!
Especially in the big cities like BKK and HCMC prices going up and service going down.That's a direct result of monopolies. Whenever you see that trend, stop completely and remember that. For example, Bangkok is having a monopoly problem in the private healthcare industry right now (so this probably carries over to other industries). Bumrungrad is merging with a lot of other major private hospitals and prices are rising while service is going to shit. And you see the same pattern in hotels? Probably because a few well connected hotel holding companies are the only players for that district that you are booking lodging in.
As for massage shops, probably because most massage shops are all owned by the same person for that given Soi. Walk out of one, you're just walking into the other shop they own. Do you think these people care about your experience? This kind of non-competitive culture, anti-free-trade, old-way thinking is true Thailand. Service will always move towards shit because it is their culture to collude and merge and to frown upon competition. It's nothing like in the west where (most) companies compete for your business. It started out as free trade, but as each year goes, the girls get worst looking everywhere as it's just the same owner eventually. They are able to employ lower price girls (girls who can't get better P4 P rates elsewhere so the shop can take a bigger cut) and charge higher prices by colluding basically.
Member #4591
01-08-17, 11:36
Hello,
It seems that finally some of the businesses are beginning to realize that they not keeping up with customer expectations will in the end put them out of business.
Hotel staff at breakfast not being able to understand the very basic questions you are posing and still bring you the wrong food. WiFi signal just very bad. Towels with-holes. Coffeemaker provided but no coffee. Staff texting all the time.
Especially in the big cities like BKK and HCMC prices going up and service going down.
My hotel in HCMC, free WiFi Everywhere? In the lobby so so in the room disconnecting all the time while trying to book a flight! After you tell the staff they will be on their phones within a minute. No way get it fixed! But they just don't care.
If a girl in a MP has a bad attitude just mention her name and if there are other customers with the same experience keep naming her and the shop that accepts her bad attitude. We are not paying peanuts anymore.
Greetings,
Frits.What MPs that are not Tulip and Annies, are beginning to realize this, can you give me a real live example? Thanks.
Sky was right next to Nong's legit massage shop. The owner offered her a very low price per month for the lease on the property that was to become Sky. Guess it was not low enough. I would agree Mick that the lookers who are also performers are going abroad these days. I was told that in order to keep some lookers around some of the shops on 24/1 are allowing gals to work 2 weeks a month. Then they have time to go work abroad.Another perk they give the top performers is to let them work out-call. So it's like a work-from-home perk. They just have to answer their phone and hail a taxi to the punters room. But even that doesn't keep top talent. For example, Rung from honeybee is very beautiful and super skilled at sensual massage, 21. But even after getting the out-call perk she still left that place after a year of working there, after getting a titjob, onto bigger and better things (more money).
I live nearby Sky massage and walked past it many times, but never thought about going in. The problem I have is that most-times the quality of the women is so bad, it's just awkward going in and leaving. And that's that case with most any oilly or semi-legit massage parlor. Which is why I need to see the girls standing outside. But the pollution levels at that part of Sukh (because of how the BTS platform traps it) are insane and the girls don't want to sit outside there. Also, too much foot traffic for girls to be standing outside screaming "massager mister" too. So it was just a really bad location.
They would have done better if they could have moved to a side street (away from the pollution and police pressure to make Bangkok look more family freindly). If that was the case, real women (not fake photos on a website doesn't help bring in customers, certainly not repeat customers who get mad after seeing what the women really looks like when they show up in person) would have been on display, and they would have established customers. But they never could establish customers, so they went out of business and closed after ultra-high season.In Soi 24/1, I became a customer of Boss Massage at one time, and later of Can Cam, only because girls were sitting outside, and I could see they had certain cute girls. The other shops in the same Soi did not have these cuties on display so did not get my business.
Addict, Orient, 102, and Mango have had girls sitting outside as well, however 102 never had a girl looking good enough, and Orient had a pretty girl, at the time I was exiting another place so wrong timing. Addict's girls outside were not doing it for me (surgeries).
So I do believe having a pretty girl to seen is critical for pulling customers like me. Way back, I only ever went to Yoremichi because I saw Bai Fern arriving in Soi 26. I went in Cherry when I saw Angie, my god jaw dropping gorgeous, she was. I went in Pink only when saw Gaew arrive on a motorbike. Never go in there any more. I went in Loli-tas because saw Anne sitting outside, and could see she had a great ass, for example.
I also think it is critical for multiple MPs to be all located near each other so I can do the rounds, of several places looking for a pretty girl to try, or try to fall back to a regular girl.
I went to Bongkot for June, previously, but never saw any other girls there good looking enough. Maybe they had them, but they were not evident. Never seen the Sky shop as just did not go to that area. In recent times have looked only Soi 24,24/1, 26,33, and intended to try Soi 22 MPs.
A very high proportion of average to ugly girls, certainly causes me to wish to browse through quite a number of MPs, looking for some spark, and I want to see real girls in good lighting (sunlight even better). Not really the poor lighting in Addict, after coming in from sunshine.
A significant portion of MP girls I ever did were first seen outside the shop, maybe 60%+
Can't be that legal if they can't leave the shop, can't return after their 90 day stint, and only gets one day off in 3 months. Obviously she is shown as working in a completely different location and job description on her work permit. I would also bet my life that she only has a 90 day visa and no permission to work. Far from working legally!It is legal, alright. That's the way the Singaporean government controls their foreign sex workers and the shops don't lose money from the girls freelancing. In Geylang there are no illegals. The shop that would employ any girl without a the proper papers would have to close. I know the shop my girl works and I know the boss there. They allow overnight bookings but only in the shop. And Farangs and other non Singaporeans pay double the fee to the Singapore bros for an overnight stay. There are illegal Thais working in Singapore but only in apartments and there is a lot of switch and bait. Anyway I am not trying to use this forum for an education on Singapore, only correcting a statement.
Girl: Run.
Age: 45 (but looks rather like 35+).
Home: Khon Kaen.
Place: Tulip.
Price: 1. 900 b for 1 HR.
Shots: 1, but probably more if you can manage.
Body: nice face IMHO, slim, 160 cm tall, long black hair, small be cup, nice round ass, no baby damage.
Room: hey, it's Tulip. Small, old, outworn. But who the fuck cares about the room there.
Sex: Excellent.
Massage: did some nice oil massage to start things off.
Other: DFK, DT, Rimming, anal for sure.
Run will never be a favorite among mongerer here, just because of her age. But she is a great fuck, a very nice girl to talk to and has that nice "take care" attitude. Will for sure consider to repeat with her.
Was also told that Sky was to be closing yesterday, although that is not confirmed.I passed there last night at about 7 pm and she shop was closed.
Bongkot is now closed. Does anybody know where Cash go? Is she retired or go to other shop?
Girl: Janet.
Age: 41 (looks a little younger).
Home: Surin.
Place: Tulip.
Price: 1. 900 THB for 1 HR.
Shots: 1, but more if you can manage.
Body: nice face IMHO, always smiling, slim, 155 cm tall, brown hair stacked up to a knot, A cup, nice ass, no notable baby damage.
Room: standard Tulip room. Small, a bed, a table, a shower cabin.
Sex: awesome tantric sex.
Massage: did some nice oil massage to start things off, used a lot of oil, balls and prostate massage.
Other: DFK, DT, fucked her pussy in many positions, didn't fuck her ass this time, but does anal for sure.
That tantric massage felt really great and Janet does know how to do it. It's an awesome experience if you are into it, but unfortunately it made me so hot that I shot my load before I could fuck her ass. Anyway I can recommend Janet if you don't mind mature girls.
Place: Tulip.
You could have easily posted in the Tulip Thread. Perhaps could copy it there.
Bongkot is now closed. I'm really sorry to hear that. I stopped there the day before I left Bangkok.
I'm coming back to visit next week and this is a disappointment. Where indeed did the ladies go?
Tulip & Snow White?
It seems I also missed Sky Massage.
One of many legends I missed was Opor at Tulip. She's back?
Candy Massage doesn't say, but I've gotten the idea that the girls are A+.
This is a quote from the post about Tulip that turned up here:
That tantric massage felt really great and Janet does know how to do it. It's an awesome experience if you are into it, but unfortunately it made me so hot that I shot my load before I could fuck her ass. Anyway I can recommend Janet if you don't mind mature girls.
This sounds exactly like what I enjoy. Since there is no website, is it possible to book a lady (be it Janet or Opor)?
Candy Massage doesn't say, but I've gotten the idea that the girls are A+.It was reported a while back that Candy Massage changed ownership, and service standards have slipped since Kuhn Candy left. As always YMMV.
SL.
Eric Swiss
01-12-17, 06:30
She's been pretty phobic about it since she was injured by some horrid dude a few years back. I certainly understand that. So I am not sure. Have not tried. She has no issue with a tongue there though. She rims, gives a good BBBJ, and moves amazingly well during the deed as well. Not the most bubbly personality, but she seems to at least enjoy the act somewhat. I would say give her a whirl.I went to Snow White and there were about 8 girls, 2 of whom were fuckable. The Mamasan indicated that only one was baby-free, that was Bonus, so I took her for a whirl. She was very good. Slim body. Good BBBJ technique. I did not ask her to rim me but probably will next time, given that now I know she does. I banged her in various positions and achieved satisfactory release. All in all a good catch. She has this weird tattoo above the breast, but I managed to ignore it. Shorter hair (shoulder-length) suits her pretty face well. I'd guesstimate she's about 26 years old, 1 m62,43 kilos. She says she's been working at Snow White 3 months, before that she was in a bar tricking customers into buying drinks. Her English is above-average. She also goes out to the man's hotel, 3000 Baht for 2 hours. I may do that next time. The shower room at Snow White was OK but it wasn't great. Her massage skills are a bit weak, but at this point who cares? I would repeat and / or recommend.
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