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Pictures from Cherry of her are a few years old, I think her face is to skinny in those, but now she is a real beuty. All in all, well worth the money for a sex starved Dextro. She made me come twice and I can't remember when that happened last time!!She looks very different in each photo. Presumably the one on Cherry's twitter page https://twitter.com/CherryMassage24/status/782335452074348544 for 1 October 2016 is the most accurate because the most recent but she looks better in this one: https://twitter.com/CherryMassage24/status/609362088184561664. I'd like to see her in the flesh before trying but she's another girl who needs to be booked in advance.
So the initial 2 k paid does not include sex. What does it include? Why so expensive?
What does "aka Muay" mean? I have heard a "chinese" expression (used by Thai chinese or Thais) to call a girl "ah muay" (with a rising tone) meaning maybe "young sister" (Chinese) or informal reference to a young chinese girl, is that what you are getting at? I think this expression comes from Taejiew dialect of Chinese.
Similarly I often hear "Jeh" (Jay) used to refer to an old Chinese woman in Thailand.
Perhaps you mean something else, since I am sure others are likely wondering too.I think you're over-analysing the post a bit too much. Clearly Fruity Spa is a kapoo club so you pay extra for 'top off' and 'panties down'. That's the 2000 but if you want more than a hand job you have to pay extra to the girl. This has been discussed on this thread. As for aka that obviously means also known as, I. E. Her nickname.
There isn't an 11 day holiday.My bad. 9 day holiday 😆.
My bad. 9 day holiday 😆.You must be very gullible to believe bullshit like that. Have you any idea what an additional 9 day holiday would do to a country's economy? There's a one day holiday so please stop spreading nonsense.
Member #4591
10-14-17, 17:49
Swung around to Snow White and inquired whether they will be open on the upcoming 11 day holiday. Was informed that SW will close on the 26 only.
On a side note, manage to see Aom in person. A bit stocky, but I think should be doable.
My bad. 9 day holiday 😆.
Could you please provide the evidence that there is an 11 day holiday? I'm only aware of the folllowing:
October 13th-The anniversary of the King's death.
October 23rd- Chulalongkorn Day.
October 26th- The King's funeral.
There isn't even 11 days or even 9 days between the 13th and the 26th for speculation.
Dextro Sol
10-14-17, 18:44
She looks very different in each photo. Presumably the one on Cherry's twitter page https://twitter.com/CherryMassage24/status/782335452074348544 for 1 October 2016 is the most accurate because the most recent but she looks better in this one: https://twitter.com/CherryMassage24/status/609362088184561664. I'd like to see her in the flesh before trying but she's another girl who needs to be booked in advance.I think none of those pictures makes her justice. As I said in my post, she is a real beuty, in my count. Taste is different, I know. I booked her only a couple of hours before she came to my apartment, maybe a slow day.
I don't know how you treat the ladies, but I'm the BFE type. LOL. And most often that pays off in a good way!!
Could you please provide the evidence that there is an 11 day holiday? *snip*.And maybe English isn't his first language? Be less aggressive, guys!
Member #4591
10-15-17, 01:12
And maybe English isn't his first language? Be less aggressive, guys!Oh maybe you are right. Saying please is way too aggressive. LOL.
HorseTrader
10-15-17, 02:35
Could you please provide the evidence that there is an 11 day holiday? I'm only aware of the folllowing:
October 13th-The anniversary of the King's death.
October 23rd- Chulalongkorn Day.
October 26th- The King's funeral.
There isn't even 11 days or even 9 days between the 13th and the 26th for speculation.I've read conflicting things regarding what is a holiday and what is not. One source clearly stated the government declared a 5 day holiday October 25-29. The following article is ambiguously written, but I think it says there is a 5 day cremation service but the holiday is just 1 day.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-4950616/Funeral-Thailands-late-King-Bhumibol-Adulyadej.html
One Thai friend said her business will be closed October 25-27. This is a large family owned business (perhaps 75 employees)
that is unrelated to entertainment or tourism.
Heatssss522
10-15-17, 02:41
Initial 2 k doesn't include sex, it was only for a nude body massage and shower, aka is we use in India, where people have double names, her name in website was muay before, a year before her name changed to Chinese looking, when I called the spa and asked for Chinese looking they didn't recognize, and I said muay they said yes she will come midnight, she has been working for a long time in this spa. I don't think its very expensive, the girls in this spa are university students who look more beautiful.
And maybe English isn't his first language? Be less aggressive, guys!English is my first language. The 9 days include the 2 weekends. From the 21st to the 29th. Do the Math. Or does *****man just shuts off for Saturday and Sunday, only to reboot on Monday? So happens that I have those days off from work. I assume that it would be the case for most people working in Thailand.
These are the kinds of comments that put people off from commenting on this site. And this issue has derailed thread by 7 posts
And maybe English isn't his first language? Be less aggressive, guys!Clearly American English is his first Language. "My bad" is not real English. It's not a sentence in my country. LOL However I heard it on American TV program just once or twice. Probably don't watch much US TV any more. Always the worry Trump will suddenly come on in a News preview.
English is my first language. The 9 days include the 2 weekends. From the 21st to the 29th. Do the Math. Or does *****man just shuts off for Saturday and Sunday, only to reboot on Monday? So happens that I have those days off from work. I assume that it would be the case for most people working in Thailand.
These are the kinds of comments that put people off from commenting on this site. And this issue has derailed thread by 7 postsPlease try to be clearer in your posts. You were talking about 'the' holiday which implies a public holiday. What you meant to say was 'my' holiday. But why do you think anyone would care about the exact length of your holiday anyway?
She looks very different in each photo. Presumably the one on Cherry's twitter page https://twitter.com/CherryMassage24/status/782335452074348544 for 1 October 2016 is the most accurate because the most recent but she looks better in this one: https://twitter.com/CherryMassage24/status/609362088184561664. I'd like to see her in the flesh before trying but she's another girl who needs to be booked in advance.I think she looks quite similar in both. Nose is too big to work for me but makes her easy to pick in the group pic. Actually most of the Cherry massage girl pics don't appeal to my personal taste. I lot of broad faces (and broad bodies I guess). Lisa looks to be the only skinny (slim) girl of the bunch in the pics, if she is still there, also not really to my taste. I know a lot of guys are okay With meaty girls, but I seem to be hooked on slim face and skinny legs.
HorseTrader
10-15-17, 06:41
I tried Lord Palace for the first time. Excellent.
Price ranged from about 5400 baht to 10,400 baht, depending on which girl you selected. That is for a 90 minute trip to heaven. About 30 girls were available sitting in a cluster. Each girl wore a letter code tag, which identified her price. I saw no relationship between appearance and price.
I really had no favorite, about 90% of them looked great to me. As I walked around about half of them smiled at me while the others sat expressionless. My first choice was not smiling and the hostess told me that she only goes with Korean men, strike 1. My second choice turned out to be a home run. For the next 90 minutes she treated me like a true VIP. She was actually one of the lower priced girls, I think 5600 baht, but I don't remember. Before the session I spent another 400 baht on drinks and tips. At the end I tipped the girl 1000 baht. I don't regret a single baht and will return in a couple of days.
One thing surprised me was the size of the place, it is huge. While walking to the room I crossed paths with 2 exiting customers. When exiting, I crossed paths with about 5 incoming customers. When I was leaving, more girls were available, perhaps 50 total choices.
My only recommendation to future customers is to not get too hot of a bath. It steams up the whole room and that can be uncomfortable for the bed activities.
Just got here and staying at Admiral Premier. Decided to venture for luncj and passed a bunch of aggressive oil massage shops. 400 for oil massage, I said boom boom abs they said yes. Are these places safe, generally ladyboy free? What should I expect to pay? Street is 100 Sayam.
Samakhom Alley.
I think she looks quite similar in both. Nose is too big to work for me but makes her easy to pick in the group pic. Actually most of the Cherry massage girl pics don't appeal to my personal taste. I lot of broad faces (and broad bodies I guess). Lisa looks to be the only skinny (slim) girl of the bunch in the pics, if she is still there, also not really to my taste. I know a lot of guys are okay With meaty girls, but I seem to be hooked on slim face and skinny legs.Good attitude and service is ok albeit one can tell she is just going through the motions. But too big, too dark, and does not shave her nether regions.
Just got here and staying at Admiral Premier. Decided to venture for luncj and passed a bunch of aggressive oil massage shops. 400 for oil massage, I said boom boom abs they said yes. Are these places safe, generally ladyboy free? What should I expect to pay? Street is 100 Sayam.
Samakhom Alley.All the shops and girls have there own prices. My one and only was these were very high and bad but I only tried one. The best area is If you go to Soi 11 past the 11/1 connection to villa market you will see a very small hallway go explore in there there are tons of very good shops that only charge 1000 baht plus massage fee. The girl are out at night hawking too. Best I've seen in Bangkok, except for Tulip which you should try see forum.
Just got here and staying at Admiral Premier. Decided to venture for luncj and passed a bunch of aggressive oil massage shops. 400 for oil massage, I said boom boom abs they said yes. Are these places safe, generally ladyboy free? What should I expect to pay? Street is 100 Sayam.
Samakhom Alley.I know the area because I used to stay there. There are hundreds of thousands of oil massage joints in Thailand. No one knows them all. I suggest you try some of places recommended in the forum rather than what is closest to your Hotel unless you really have the hots for some particular girl you saw. I must admit to having been a customer of several MPs only because I saw a particularly attractive girl out on the street in daylight. That caused me try Yoremichi, and Pink Massage at the time, and in both cases I was not sorry.
I think I recall some place called "Banana Club Massage" in that alley you mention. Just the name like that is already a no-go. I think the staff are not ladies. LOL.
Personally I normally would try Soi 22,24, 24/1, 26, or 33. Lots of MPs to choose from there. Despite staying at AP in the paste, was never tempted by any MP nearby.
I know the area because I used to stay there. There are hundreds of thousands of oil massage joints in Thailand. No one knows them all. I suggest you try some of places recommended in the forum rather than what is closest to your Hotel unless you really have the hots for some particular girl you saw. I must admit to having been a customer of several MPs only because I saw a particularly attractive girl out on the street in daylight. That caused me try Yoremichi, and Pink Massage at the time, and in both cases I was not sorry.
I think I recall some place called "Banana Club Massage" in that alley you mention. Just the name like that is already a no-go. I think the staff are not ladies. LOL.
Personally I normally would try Soi 22,24, 24/1, 26, or 33. Lots of MPs to choose from there. Despite staying at AP in the paste, was never tempted by any MP nearby.Thanks, I think the street is Sukhamvit 23near Citadines that I mentioned.
I tried Lord Palace for the first time. Excellent.
Price ranged from about 5400 baht to 10,400 baht, depending on which girl you selected. That is for a 90 minute trip to heaven. About 30 girls were available sitting in a cluster. Each girl wore a letter code tag, which identified her price. I saw no relationship between appearance and price.
I really had no favorite, about 90% of them looked great to me. As I walked around about half of them smiled at me while the others sat expressionless. My first choice was not smiling and the hostess told me that she only goes with Korean men, strike 1. My second choice turned out to be a home run. For the next 90 minutes she treated me like a true VIP. She was actually one of the lower priced girls, I think 5600 baht, but I don't remember. Before the session I spent another 400 baht on drinks and tips. At the end I tipped the girl 1000 baht. I don't regret a single baht and will return in a couple of days..The Lord is my favourite massage place in Bangkok too. So far I have been there 6 times.
I tried a lower class girl once which are sitting on the middle of the place under the lights.
She had very pretty face but after she undressed I did not like her body and her big butt. Also she had hairy legs. She probably forgot to shave them, I could feel it stung me in the bathtub while she washed me. I tried XL category which is 8400 4 times. 2 times with 2 girls. I repeated with them because they were beautiful and one of them went the extra mile too. She probably like me too cause she gave me her contact information and she did not make me clean up and leave after we were finished. She told me to stay and massaged me and we talked and when the 90 minuets were up then we left. The XX category girl was probably the most beautiful girl in Bangkok who I had sex with. Everything about her was amazing. She was half Thai and half some other south East Asian which I don't remember. She looked like a Thai Eva Longoria from desperate housewives. She gave me a great service with all the basis other girls there do too. DFK, BBJ, she let me finger her, I ate out her nice tight shaved pussy, then we fucked but after I popped she opted to have shower so we cleaned up while small talk and I was on my way. She told me she would love it if I go back to see her again. I still had at least half an hour time when I left. Would have been good to just stay and chill with her or something. Anyway I guess it's up to the girls. I love going to that place but the only things is the girls know me by now and sometimes I feel some of them like me especially if we click. And because of this going back makes me feel awkward.
I feel that if I choose a different girl than the one that liked me and we had a good time previously, that girl will be annoyed at me and feel hurt. Maybe I'm over thinking this to much though. Do any of you guys feel awkward going back to the same place over and over again but choosing different girls?
Also what I like to do is mix it up. I also go to Copa Cabana. They are cheaper and have beautiful model category girls too for 7400. So far all the girls there gave me great service too. My third place is Labelle. I like it because it's cheap but good value.
Rooms are big and clean with modern decor. Girls are 7000 for highest level. Service is same level as Copacabana. Very good value for money.
Good attitude and service is ok albeit one can tell she is just going through the motions. But too big, too dark, and does not shave her nether regions.Is that BB you're talking about? If so, that's a dealbreaker for me. Does she at least trim or is it one of those nasty hairy bushes?
Is that BB you're talking about? If so, that's a dealbreaker for me. Does she at least trim or is it one of those nasty hairy bushes?Yep, that's who I am talking about. It's too much hair for me. Might be slightly trimmed.
Yep, that's who I am talking about. It's too much hair for me. Might be slightly trimmed.That is rare for a pro because of healthcare considerations. Perhaps she wants to pass as a civilian in her off time.
I picked up a Soi 4 streetwalker once who claimed to only occasionally P4 P, and it felt like I needed a machete to get to the honey pot 555.
SL.
HorseTrader
10-15-17, 22:32
.....and she did not make me clean up and leave after we were finished. She told me to stay and massaged me and we talked and when the 90 minuets were up then we left......
I feel that if I choose a different girl than the one that liked me and we had a good time previously, that girl will be annoyed at me and feel hurt. Maybe I'm over thinking this to much though. Do any of you guys feel awkward going back to the same place over and over again but choosing different girls?
I'm disappointed to read that any Lord Palace girl would get you out before the 90 minutes session was finished. Unshaven legs would also seem unacceptable for girls at such a nice place. That's the kind of thing I would expect from the 400 baht oily places or a Thermae girl. Based on my single experience, i just assumed that all Lord Palace girls would continue to keep you enjoying your time right up until the 80-minute mark when the phone rings.
Don't worry about her feeling bad when you pick a different girl. She isn't worried about your feelings when she goes with another man. It's not a monogamous dating relationship. You need to get over that.
Will be visiting BKK next month and one thing on my list is to visit a high end (by that I mean where it is guaranteed to find very good looking ladies) massage place at least once. And reading through the forum, it seems the places are all concentrated in the Ratchadapidesek road and not in the Sukhumvit area where I will be staying near Soi Cowboy.
If you had to visit only one place, which one would that be?
Some on the list:
The Lords (seems to have the most reviews on here).
Nataree.
Poseidon.
Copa Cabana.
Read other names such as Emmanuelle, LE Madame etc. But not sure whether they offer the same quality of girls.
I should expect prices from 3 k - 10+k baht although I will limit myself to a max of 6-7 k baht. If I find a stunner or a perfect girl to my taste then I might push a little bit more.
Anyways, coming to the main question. It seems all the above places incl Lords offer only 1 pop which is a bummer! Is it possible to get a guaranteed 2 shot session at any Ratchada hotel? If so, we need to pay more and negotiate upfront? Because one pop seems just not right for a 90 minute session. The last thing I want to do is think about holding my climax rather than enjoying my time with a thai beauty.
And the second question is. Which place offers the best value for money? In terms of good looking (fair skinned, no silicone jobs, 25 yrs or younger, slim to little plump is okay) ladies?
Nataree is long gone. For the rest I'd say it also depends on your taste. The Lord and Poseidon are frequently mentioned as the top high-end places, but when I went there I just couldn't find a girl that I really liked and ended up at Catherine again paying 2 k for one of those super-tiny northern girls: the Maybe it was because I went during the early afternoon. Selection tends to be bigger in the early evening.
So I'd say go in the early evening and visit both places. They are both on Ratchada, so you can check out both. At Poseidon, make sure to check out the other floors as well. Downstairs it's only normal soapy girls; the sideline girls are sitting on another floor. Also, at Poseidon, they have a book with girls available who are off or only work on pre-booking. Apparently, some of these are penthouse models. So if you really want to splurge, ask for those girls. Be prepared to spend big money.
If it's really worth is another story. Looking forward to your reports.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 03:00
Will be visiting BKK next month and one thing on my list is to visit a high end (by that I mean where it is guaranteed to find very good looking ladies) massage place at least once. And reading through the forum, it seems the places are all concentrated in the Ratchadapidesek road and not in the Sukhumvit area where I will be staying near Soi Cowboy.
If you had to visit only one place, which one would that be?
Some on the list:
The Lords (seems to have the most reviews on here).
Nataree.
Poseidon.
Copa Cabana.
Read other names such as Emmanuelle, LE Madame etc. But not sure whether they offer the same quality of girls.
I should expect prices from 3 k - 10+k baht although I will limit myself to a max of 6-7 k baht. If I find a stunner or a perfect girl to my taste then I might push a little bit more.
Anyways, coming to the main question. It seems all the above places incl Lords offer only 1 pop which is a bummer! Is it possible to get a guaranteed 2 shot session at any Ratchada hotel? If so, we need to pay more and negotiate upfront? Because one pop seems just not right for a 90 minute session. The last thing I want to do is think about holding my climax rather than enjoying my time with a thai beauty.
And the second question is. Which place offers the best value for money? In terms of good looking (fair skinned, no silicone jobs, 25 yrs or younger, slim to little plump is okay) ladies?Well Nateree was far from a high end place and it has also been closed down for about 1 year already. Lords and Poseidon would be my choices, I would try them both. You will have no problem finding fair skin girls at these places, but most will have nose jobs and bolt ONS. If one has natural tits, she will have a nose job and if one has a nose job, she will have bolt ONS. Thai girls love the clinic for these 2 main things plus filler for their chins and whitening. Don't put these restrictions on your choices. Go see the girls and make your choice based on their appearance.
About the second pop, this will be difficult; you are already looking for the best bang for your buck. The best thing to do is choose your lady. Before heading upstairs sit down with her for a chat. Tell her what you want and negotiate a tip for the second pop. None of these places will offer a second pop off their menu pricing. Another option is offer the tip after the first pop in the room. Ymmv from the first pop will decide your fate on this. If the girl is comfortable with you and the size of your dick, she will agree.
I would also not limit yourself to one or two places when looking for a high end girl. The other places in the area will also mixx in these type of girls. For example Ocean has a tier system like most other shops and I have been with a few real stunners in there. Unless your budget only allows for 1 session, I would reccommemd you look in all the Ratchada / Rama 9 places and sample a few.
I don't know your nationality, but these type of girls are used to Asian punters with smaller dicks, deep pockets, and low expectations for the sessions. These guys are happy with one pop, they don't care about second pops, plastic surgery or not, or value for money. Easy low maintenance customers for these beauties. When a farang (White Caucasian westerner) comes in looking for all natural, 2 pops, value for money, and a big dick that they are scared of, they don't get too excited for you to book them.
No, the first rule is RTFF- Read The Fucking Forum.
That solves a whole lot of problems when a noob understands the basic do's and don'ts.Take your own advise and RTFF. I know you didn't read more than a page or 2 back because it's been posted several times that Nateree is closed unless I'm so stupid and it's just reopened in the last few days. In that case, go for it. Did you even read this post? He tells you a lot of info here. It's on this page too. If you RTFF, you would probably be able to choose the best place without posting and also know about the second pops and so on.
The Lord is my favourite massage place in Bangkok too. So far I have been there 6 times.
I tried a lower class girl once which are sitting on the middle of the place under the lights.
She had very pretty face but after she undressed I did not like her body and her big butt. Also she had hairy legs. She probably forgot to shave them, I could feel it stung me in the bathtub while she washed me. I tried XL category which is 8400 4 times. 2 times with 2 girls. I repeated with them because they were beautiful and one of them went the extra mile too. She probably like me too cause she gave me her contact information and she did not make me clean up and leave after we were finished. She told me to stay and massaged me and we talked and when the 90 minuets were up then we left. The XX category girl was probably the most beautiful girl in Bangkok who I had sex with. Everything about her was amazing. She was half Thai and half some other south East Asian which I don't remember. She looked like a Thai Eva Longoria from desperate housewives. She gave me a great service with all the basis other girls there do too. DFK, BBJ, she let me finger her, I ate out her nice tight shaved pussy, then we fucked but after I popped she opted to have shower so we cleaned up while small talk and I was on my way. She told me she would love it if I go back to see her again. I still had at least half an hour time when I left. Would have been good to just stay and chill with her or something. Anyway I guess it's up to the girls. I love going to that place but the only things is the girls know me by now and sometimes I feel some of them like me especially if we click. And because of this going back makes me feel awkward.
I feel that if I choose a different girl than the one that liked me and we had a good time previously, that girl will be annoyed at me and feel hurt. Maybe I'm over thinking this to much though. Do any of you guys feel awkward going back to the same place over and over again but choosing different girls?
Also what I like to do is mix it up. I also go to Copa Cabana. They are cheaper and have beautiful model category girls too for 7400. So far all the girls there gave me great service too. My third place is Labelle. I like it because it's cheap but good value.
Rooms are big and clean with modern decor. Girls are 7000 for highest level. Service is same level as Copacabana. Very good value for money.I have just gone through your posts and i don't see any reviews from you. Only little tid bits but mostly questions asking for help. You should post full reviews so the others can have the benefit. The only reason I answered this one is because the high end subject is always something I like to discuss and partake in. Finally, I can guess your nationality now and this may be a challenge for you in these places. This is not a racist comment in anyway but the facts. Plenty of advice on the forum regarding this too, even a deadicated user blog at the bottom. Please RTFF.
Member #4698
10-16-17, 04:15
Will be visiting BKK next month and one thing on my list is to visit a high end (by that I mean where it is guaranteed to find very good looking ladies) massage place at least once. And reading through the forum, it seems the places are all concentrated in the Ratchadapidesek road and not in the Sukhumvit area where I will be staying near Soi Cowboy.
If you had to visit only one place, which one would that be? Some on the list:
The Lord (seems to have the most reviews on here). YES
Nataree. (CLOSED)
Copa Cabana. (Do the LORD 1ST. The sister shop Copa Cabana is sometimes interesting and worth checking out, but it is clearly a step down in class.)
LA BELLE. (Talk about stunners: some of the La Belle sideline girls (models) are truely very hot and La Belle is a 1st class joint, but I have found lately that the service varies in quality more than it does at the Lord so for that reason I prefer the Lord.) See Dr Cox's excellent report below:
The Lord is my favourite massage place in Bangkok too. So far I have been there 6 times. <snip>
Also what I like to do is mix it up. I also go to Copa Cabana. They are cheaper and have beautiful model category girls too for 7400. So far all the girls there gave me great service too. My third place is Labelle. I like it because it's cheap but good value.
Rooms are big and clean with modern decor. Girls are 7000 for highest level. Service is same level as Copacabana. Very good value for money.Great report Dr Cox. I totally agree with your findings. The Lord is numero uno as far as I am concerned all things considered. In fact, all of my Lord sessions have been very good to memorable. As to physical quality of the Lord girls: I have to say most are not stunners, but there are always plenty of friendly, sexy ones on hand. Most Lord girls do not resemble my Go Go girls in any way, shape, or form. Lord stunners are available from time to time, but it's kind of the luck of the draw if one is available when you are, so my advice is if you see one do not hesitate, take her right way.
I remember I was with Pooky, a 6000-baht Lord girl. Pooky is one of my memorable repeat Lord girls and on this particular night our session went into double overtime. I think I posted a report of one of my sessions with her back in May. Now Pooky is a sexy 26-year-old girl with large (for a Thai girl) natural ta ta's and very light skin, but she is also not my usual type. Usually I go for young spinners with small breasts and tight sexy bodies and no fat. Pooky's body is more curvy and soft. Her face is attractive, but no way would I consider her a stunner. What I like about her most is how passionate, naughty, and sweet she is all at the same time and I really like the way we make boom boom.
Anyway, one night we were walking arm in arm back to the reception area down the labyrinth of halls, after our tryst, when 3 beautiful Lord girls emerged a head of us from one of the private areas. Pooky whispered in my ear that these girls were beautiful and indeed one in particular wearing a black top was an 8 superstar. I whispered in Pooky's ear I thought she (Pooky) was beautiful too. LOL. Sshe smiled and said something like "ah go on, don't kid me. " If she had been a Filipina she would have said "bola bola" and we would have laughed together.
In any case, we kissed and said our goodbyes right before entering the main hall and off Pooky went to straighten herself up or take a few minutes off or something. I hung around a little while wanting to get a better look at the stunner with the black top. Mamasan Susan came over and greeted me and asked how everything was. I told her everything was great and that Pooky was a wonderful girl and she smiled. Then I took Susan aside near the bar and pointed out the beautiful girl in the black and asked, "how much that one" To my surprise Susan nonchalantly replied the girl was an M category 7000-baht girl. I then told Susan that I wanted that girl next time and Susan said ok, she would remember my request.
Very, very sadly however, I never saw the girl in black again, but there is always next year. 555.
That is rare for a pro because of healthcare considerations. Perhaps she wants to pass as a civilian in her off time.
I picked up a Soi 4 streetwalker once who claimed to only occasionally P4 P, and it felt like I needed a machete to get to the honey pot 555.
SL.Seems more and more of the oily gals are growing Bush. Asian punters prefer "natural. " I myself, do not. But there are more and more Asian dudes, so they are shooting to please them. I see some pretty skeezy dudes at the oilies these days. It is really a turn off.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 06:33
I arrived at 11:00AM to find only 2 ladies. Audi, who was busy with a customer and Aom. Please see the link for the newbies. http://snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html..
I was in the mood for a real PSE after my previous 2 sessions and Aom did not disappoint. Nice BJ in shower and on the bed for non stop PSE action with rimming, slurpy BBJ, DATY, and multiple positions. I'm not a fan of A+ so I can't comment on that. After my 1st pop she gave a decent massage and then moved back on top of me for round 2. Oops forgot the comdom for round 2. My bad. I could not manage a second pop with her since I had managed 3 pops already since 2:30 AM. Damage paid directly to Aom, the lady after my session. Damage was 2,200 plus 800 Baht tip.
Dextro Sol
10-16-17, 07:58
Is that BB you're talking about? If so, that's a dealbreaker for me. Does she at least trim or is it one of those nasty hairy bushes?BB keeps it very trimmed, no Bush!!
BB keeps it very trimmed, no Bush!!I beg to differ. Last time I was with her (a few weeks ago) there was hair around the lips, taint, and keister. I prefer those shaved clean. Ok with a landing strip up top, but nothing down below.
I arrived at 11:00AM to find only 2 ladies. Audi, who was busy with a customer and Aom. Please see the link for the newbies. http://snowwhitesoi26.com/ladies.html..
I was in the mood for a real PSE after my previous 2 sessions and Aom did not disappoint. Nice BJ in shower and on the bed for non stop PSE action with rimming, slurpy BBJ, DATY, and multiple positions. I'm not a fan of A+ so I can't comment on that. After my 1st pop she gave a decent massage and then moved back on top of me for round 2. Oops forgot the comdom for round 2. My bad. I could not manage a second pop with her since I had managed 3 pops already since 2:30 AM. Damage paid directly to Aom, the lady after my session. Damage was 2,200 plus 800 Baht tip.How's the body? Any baby damage to the stomach or breasts? On one of the pics on the website it looks like there is some gut issues.
We need to list the PSE gals who are baby free, not too dark, not fat, and good performers. Very few these days. Emmy and Ae (YMMV) at Snow and Golf at Tulip are the only current ones I would put on the list. The PSE shops are slim pick'ns now.
I beg to differ. Last time I was with her (a few weeks ago) there was hair around the lips, taint, and keister. I prefer those shaved clean. Ok with a landing strip up top, but nothing down below.Snow White's Ae has hair in all those places too. I particularly found the perianal hair a turn-off. Is BB worse than that?
Snow White's Ae has hair in all those places too. I particularly found the perianal hair a turn-off. Is BB worse than that?Quite a bit worse. Ae is sparse in comparison, but it has been a couple of months at least since I have been with Ae. Perhaps she is worse now. I find the trend of not shaving amongst the PSE gals quite a turn off. Perhaps they do it because they don't want customers to DATY. With some of the dudes I see going into those shops these days, it's hard to blame them.
Member #4591
10-16-17, 11:31
How's the body? Any baby damage to the stomach or breasts? On one of the pics on the website it looks like there is some gut issues.
We need to list the PSE gals who are baby free, not too dark, not fat, and good performers. Very few these days. Emmy and Ae (YMMV) at Snow and Golf at Tulip are the only current ones I would put on the list. The PSE shops are slim pick'ns now.No baby damage but a bit chubby in the gut. As I said, she was my only choice st the time. I won't repaeat but it was worth the time and money for the experience and how I wasn't feeling at the time.
Quite a bit worse. Ae is sparse in comparison, but it has been a couple of months at least since I have been with Ae. Perhaps she is worse now. I find the trend of not shaving amongst the PSE gals quite a turn off. Perhaps they do it because they don't want customers to DATY. With some of the dudes I see going into those shops these days, it's hard to blame them.ROFLMAO. I had a young Cart Bar girl about a year back that had never ever shaved her puss, so was at least 2 inches. LOL I still managed the DATY. I was considering taking her to CH to see how the girls shave these days. She was still worthwhile as good GFE pretty face and incredible hidden tits (no one at the Cart bar knew she had amazing tits). Unfortunately soon disappeared after police raids of the cart bars and I guess she changed her phone number as could not contact her.
Will be a sad day if Pornstar Shop girls are trying to get out of DATY.
Yes slim pickings everywhere these days, not just Pornstar shops. Makes me wonder if I can be bothered to monger at all. For sure the desire to go often is dropping away. I have so few regulars now and I would always prefer to do my GF (still very sexy) than go out looking for something. Did find a pretty SW the other day as yet untried, so I have not thrown out all thoughts of trying something new, but is going to be rare now. Would like to find a couple of really cheap options.
One bargirl, I meet privately now, which is a lot cheaper. LOL I provide the drinks, and no BF.
Yes slim pickings everywhere these days, not just Pornstar shops. Makes me wonder if I can be bothered to monger at all. For sure the desire to go often is dropping away. I have so few regulars now and I would always prefer to do my GF (still very sexy) than go out looking for something. Did find a pretty SW the other day as yet untried, so I have not thrown out all thoughts of trying something new, but is going to be rare now. Would like to find a couple of really cheap options.
One bargirl, I meet privately now, which is a lot cheaper. LOL I provide the drinks, and no BF.I'm of the same mind. I think many long time mongers feel the same way. Yes, we acknowledge that prices increase, but to be paying top dollar for at best mediocre looks and performance is just not acceptable. And when I read about these punters dropping over 200 USD for 90 min at places like The Lord, I just do a face palm. Certainly not what I moved over here for. I have not had a regular in over 2 years. Just can't find ones that fit the bill. I partake once maybe twice a month these days and only when I am foaming at the mouth horned up. And even then most times I leave the place thinking about what else I could have bought with that money. Have a friend who works here but goes down to Jakarta for P4 P every few months. Classic and Travel are still a bargain. And if you want to go up scale, Malio has Viets that are very hot. Pricey, but I'd take them over Thai gals any day.
I have just gone through your posts and i don't see any reviews from you. Only little tid bits but mostly questions asking for help. You should post full reviews so the others can have the benefit. The only reason I answered this one is because the high end subject is always something I like to discuss and partake in. Finally, I can guess your nationality now and this may be a challenge for you in these places. This is not a racist comment in anyway but the facts. Plenty of advice on the forum regarding this too, even a deadicated user blog at the bottom. Please RTFF.My nationality is half Australian and half Hungarian. If this is a problem for you then, well what can I say. So far it has not been an issue for me here in Thailand or anywhere else, in fact Thai people like me a lot and I made heaps of friends.
You see the reason I don't write detailed little reviews of all my encounters is because.
1. I don't really have a lot of time.
2. We all have different tastes, something that was amazing for me might not be to you.
3. Based on my experience here in BKK, girls who work in higher end soapies will treat everyone differently according to how much they like you and not your wallet (I have never tipped girls or offered them extra money, I only tip the waitress and mamasans) , example: I might have had a blast and amazing time with this girl at the Lord; and then you go there and she might just do you because she has no choice, because you paid. Would you have a blast? Probably not, and maybe even feel disappointed.
All girls wether you pay 6000 or 8400 or 10400 which I have all done will give you the basics at the Lord.
She will wash you.
Then BBJ in the tub and DFK and some foreplay.
Then onto the bed where sex with condom follows.
Now she can let you finger her if she likes it, not all do, and they let you go down on them too.
But after you pop its pretty much clean up time and time to say goodbye unless she really fancies you and so far only one girl out of 4 at the lord who was.
An XL category wanted to stay with me right until the end of the 90 minutes, she offered me massage and we chatted and exchanged contact information, she clearly was.
Into me, not pretending and I wasn't misreading her. She told me so many times how handsome I am and she couldn't believe me that I'm still single.
I get compliments all the time from girls at soapies but never anything like from her. Anyway I don't want to get off topic. One year later I'm back here in BKK.
And I went back to the Lord and there she was, so I choose her again, and she remembered me and told me how shy she is now.
She gave me a amazing service even better then before. I was actually surprised how good it was. Better then the 10400 XX girl the week before at the same place.
Honestly this was probably the best soapy session ever here in BKK out of all 16 times. So yes, if a girl really likes you it makes a huge difference.
If she doesn't you will still be treated with respect, I never had a bad experience at any soapy place here in BKK.
So far I went to The Lord 6 times, Copacabana 4 times, Poseidon 2 times, Emaunelle once, Labelle 2 times, and a lower class place called Addict once.
I remember reading here not so long ago a review about a girl from Addict and the poster mentioned hid favourite girl there is Nana. When I was there none of the girls appealed to me.
But since I was there I was like what the hell, why not give it a shot. I choose a tall skinny girl, turns out she is Nana. She loved me, she literally said I love you to me.
She wanted my phone number and told me to please go back to her again and see her outside of work too. But as far as the service and sex for me it was nothing special, but she also.
Did not make me leave after I popped. Offered to give me a massage, afterwards just lay in the bed a cuddling and kissing. But she is the favourite girl of someone here on this forum. Definitely not mine.
I prefer prettier girls and she was too skinny for me. But that night out of about 30 girls she was the best looking there.
So conclusion someones favourite experience might not be your favourite.
Which places I would recommend to anyone?
The Lord because high quality merchandise, the model XL category and above XX girls are all pretty and have nice body and well groomed plus they always have a lot of girls, lower category girls also look attractive by the way.
At the Lord girls especially the models can be cocky and snob, probably because they are rich and make good money, they are not down to earth.
Copacabana because here the model category girls are cheaper 7400, but I was here this Sunday and I choose the same girl as 3 weeks ago and now I paid 6500. How? I don't know why she was cheaper. She also stayed with me the second time around for the full.
90 minutes, also got her number and dinner invitation. The model girls here are pretty and well groomed too, and more down to earth, real genuine, kind and nice. Only down side is not that many model girl working, usually around 6.
Labelle, well I jut like it because rooms are nice and big, huge tub with jacuzzi function in all rooms, shower cabin too, nice modern decor, and model girl are here the cheapest at 7000. They are also very friendly and genuine. Place has a good vibe and location is easy to get to, very close to MRT Petchaburi.
Poseidon I did not like because girls did not kiss, no DFK, and was very mechanical, same experience with a beautiful very sexy hot girl at Emanuel, shame she was so beautiful. That's why I would not recommend the last 2.
Also if a girl respects me that much by giving me her private number and Facebook information, I will respect her by not writing about her and her name or badge number on forums. That's just me.
I'm disappointed to read that any Lord Palace girl would get you out before the 90 minutes session was finished. Unshaven legs would also seem unacceptable for girls at such a nice place. That's the kind of thing I would expect from the 400 baht oily places or a Thermae girl. Based on my single experience, i just assumed that all Lord Palace girls would continue to keep you enjoying your time right up until the 80-minute mark when the phone rings.
Don't worry about her feeling bad when you pick a different girl. She isn't worried about your feelings when she goes with another man. It's not a monogamous dating relationship. You need to get over that.Well the hairy leg girl was a funny story. At least her face was so beautiful it made up for the legs and the butt. Also she was very kind. But your right, I think at a place like the Lord which prides itself for being the best highest quality things like this should not happen.
So far out of 16 soapy visits only 6 times I stayed with the girls for full 90 minutes. 2 times at the Lord with the same girl. Once at Addict with Nana. A year ago at Copacabana with a girl who's name I don't remember anymore.
Once at Labelle a week ago with a girl named Ploi. This Sunday with a girl who I saw the second time in a month at Copacabana, the first time I saw her I left early, but the second time around her attitude towards me changed completely, got her phone number too.
I understand what you mean about It's not a monogamous dating relationship. But one girl told me, actually she was the girl I had when I visited the Lord first time in my life about a year ago. Her name is App. She is Xl category stunner.
She told me she does not want to let herself get attached to customer or does not want to develop any feelings towards anyone. The reason she said is because if she starts to like.
Someone and then if that customer goes back again but this time chooses a different girl and she sees this she will feel hurt. So it's better to keep a distance she told me.
Maybe that's the reason some girls after you pop make you clean up and leave. Until the pop its full on GFE, but after they pull of that condom and ask you: Are you tired? Shower?
Its pretty much means we are done. What are you going to do? And while cleaning up make small talk about favourite food and travels and stuff, but it just gets awkward.
It feels strange that a minute before she was like your girlfriend and now just some random stranger washing your dick. Very fast transition out of the GFE. You can tell they are keeping it professional, cold, no feelings.
You can also tell if a girl likes you. Happened to me again this Sunday at the Copacabana. I saw her the second time and this time she told me she will go to Germany next month for 3 months for studying.
She said she would love to see me again before she leaves, told me she would want to see me again in the future, especially after she quit this line of work, she gave me her phone number and told me she would love to have dinner one night as well.
Definitely I'm not able to go back to Copacabana after this unless I choose her. I would definitely hurt her if I choose someone else when she's there. I wouldn't be able to do that.
So that is why I feel awkward going back to a place to see other girls where I know l there are girls who like me. Maybe I'm just too sensitive and care too much.
After all we are all human, even though its business sometimes we can't help to start developing feelings.
Maybe its better not to let girls like us, like the wise App once said: "keep the distance ".
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Member #4698
10-16-17, 19:40
Have a friend who works here but goes down to Jakarta for P4 P every few months. Classic and Travel are still a bargain. And if you want to go up scale, Malio has Viets that are very hot. Pricey, but I'd take them over Thai gals any day.Don't know what to tell you G. Classic is cheap yes, but no bargain. Good sessions there are not the norm. I think you would grow to dislike the place.
Malio Club is one of my two favorite bordellos in Jakarta, but I have never noticed any Viets in Malio? Maybe you are referring to Malioboro Lounge (same building). Over in Malioboro Lounge they do have Viet imports. Its 1,400,000 rp per session with all the import girls, but they are nothing special in my opinion. I would much rather go with the Indo couch girls some of whom are very attractive and at 800,000 rp ($58) and 1,100,000 rp ($80)represent a much better deal to me than the tired, worn out Classic or Travel girls. Of course, that is just my opinion and your friend is welcome to disagree. The really stand out girls in both Malio Club and Malioboro Lounge are the Indo dancers and guess what? They don't come cheap. Malio Indo dancers are 2,000,000 rp ($146) not including drinks and they expect a customer to buy them drinks, several drinks to get friendly, inspect their goods and get things going. Malioboro Indo dancers are a little less costly at 1,700,000 rp.
On a further note I would add that in my other favorite bordello in Jakarta, the Alexis Hotel, sexy hot little Indo girls there are 1,400,000 rp ($102), so not cheap by any standards, but they are super sexy and really aim to please, so totally worth it in my humble opinion and perhaps a better deal than the one currently on offer in BKK Go Go's except that BKK Go Go girls are take out girls while Malio/Alexis/Kings Cross/Classic/Travel girls are in house until you get to know them better. I think that is a big plus for BKK. But if you want to shop around for Viet girls, Alexis is the place to go in Jakarta. The Alexis import Viets are hot! So naturally their price is sky high. Are you sitting down? Alexis Hotel Viet imports are 2,400,000 rp ($175).
Fortunately for my checking account I prefer the younger Indo girls, but I have given in a few times and gone Vietnamese in Alexis. Comparatively speaking, many Alexis Viets look better than many Lord girls, but not all for sure and you will encounter a lot of bolt-ons in both groups (not so with the Indo girls). As for service: The Alexis Viets offer excellent service similar to but not quite as dirty as most of my Lord girls at 6000 baht ($181). So they are both very competiviely priced against one another. BKK remains more the party town with easy accessabilty to most red light places of interest. Jakarta is more spread out and less out in the open. Thus I like to play in Jakarta for limited amounts of time, but I prefer BKK over all. On girl quality alone, I like Thai, Indo and Filipinas almost equally although they look and act very different. Perhaps the Indo girls are my top preference at the moment, but it's very close.
So face it G; it's called the efficient market. Get used to it. The free and rapid flow of information across national borders leads young girls and their employers in all the major capitals of Asia to know exactly how much they can charge for a girl based on her looks, age, and level of expertise. Prices are up everywhere and pretty much equaling out across the board: BKK- MNL- Jakarta-Singapore-Shanghai and even Phnom Penh are equaling out. You can choose to enter the market less often or get yourself a steady girl or two, but you can't really fight this trend, not if we are both talking about high quality girls. Maybe what the market needs in a nuclear mistake in North Korea over Japan. That would drop the price big time and fast.
Smile just texted me and said she will not be working at Addict any longer. If anyone is trying to get a hold of her let me know.
And PM me.
HorseTrader
10-17-17, 04:34
I'm now up to 2 glorious visits to Lord Palace. First visit was with an approximate 5600 baht girl, second visit was with a more expensive girl, somewhere around 9000 baht. I felt both were equally attractive, though the more expensive girl had lighter skin. Performance wise I think the less expensive girl had the edge, simply because of ample DFK while the more expensive girl provided almost none. Both kept me happy through 90 minutes. Only the less expensive girl offered her Line ID. Perhaps the less expensive girl simply liked me better.
I keep thinking it is a sales tactic when a girl says she will feel bad if you select another. She knows that her words will make you feel important and will also make you feel guilty if you select a different girl while she is available.
Thai working girls are free and loose with the words "I love you. " I interpret those words as meaning "You are OK and I would like you to come back and spend more money with me."
Member #4591
10-17-17, 04:54
My nationality is half Australian and half Hungarian. If this is a problem for you then, well what can I say. So far it has not been an issue for me here in Thailand or anywhere else, in fact Thai people like me a lot and I made heaps of friends.
You see the reason I don't write detailed little reviews of all my encounters is because.
1. I don't really have a lot of time.
2. We all have different tastes, something that was amazing for me might not be to you.I'm not quite sure why you are so upset. My post was not even directed at you. I was a replying to Lone wolf. The only reason I quoted you was because you had posted a very good report about high end shops The Llrd and I quoted you so Lone Wolf would read your report instead of asking questions that you and other posters had already answered.
Please read my post again. You will see how I referenced your post for the op to read. And right after I said this, I quoted your report.
Did you even read this post? He tells you a lot of info here. It's on this page too. If you RTFF, you would probably be able to choose the best place without posting and also know about the second pops and so on. I have just gone through your posts and i don't see any reviews from you. Only little tid bits but mostly questions asking for help. You should post full reviews so the others can have the benefit. The only reason I answered this one is because the high end subject is always something I like to discuss and partake in. Finally, I can guess your nationality now and this may be a challenge for you in these places. This is not a racist comment in anyway but the facts. Plenty of advice on the forum regarding this too, even a deadicated user blog at the bottom. Please RTFF.
"This post" refers to your quoted post and "He tells you" refers to you writing the quoted post.
Cheers! Keep up the great reports.
Honestly this was probably the best soapy session ever here in BKK out of all 16 times. So yes, if a girl really likes you it makes a huge difference.
If she doesn't you will still be treated with respect, I never had a bad experience at any soapy place here in BKK.
So far I went to The Lord 6 times, Copacabana 4 times, Poseidon 2 times, Emaunelle once, Labelle 2 times, and a lower class place called Addict once.
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Labelle, well I jut like it because rooms are nice and big, huge tub with jacuzzi function in all rooms, shower cabin too, nice modern decor, and model girl are here the cheapest at 7000. They are also very friendly and genuine. Place has a good vibe and location is easy to get to, very close to MRT Petchaburi.
Poseidon I did not like because girls did not kiss, no DFK, and was very mechanical, same experience with a beautiful very sexy hot girl at Emanuel, shame she was so beautiful. That's why I would not recommend the last 2.
Also if a girl respects me that much by giving me her private number and Facebook information, I will respect her by not writing about her and her name or badge number on forums. That's just me.You never had a bad experience? That means you are real easy to please. The way you describe your Poseidon girls, is definitely what most of us would call "a bad experience".
I had one girl at The Lord, rather so-so. Definitely not worth the money. Recently had a more stunning girl to my taste (yes I thought prettier than the Lord girls) at Emmanuelle but quite slim. She was a crap experience. Okay In the tub, lousy on the bed. Just like you describe. Yes a BAD experience.
I have a very poor success rate at La Belle, only my original La Belle girl years ago was any good for me, and she deteriorated over the years, becoming more restrictive and more dick scared, till I dropped her. I hate the tubs in La Belle. Silly shape, and not comfortable. Metal bits sticking out for water spouts. Terrible tubs. It is easy to make a mistake and get a girl with poor to average body once the clothes come off. I fair percentage of girls were dick scared, more used to Asian customers.
Even at the Lord, I struggle to choose a girl that I think is really stunning. Yes obviously well above average. Obviously my definition of stunning is very different. I rule out broad faces, nose jobs, silicone tits, and big asses or broad thighs (I like slim) and that leaves a limited selection I guess.
I used to have much better Soapy experiences 20 years ago in Chao Praya 2 (not recommending in the modern day though). Not sure why the girls their were so much better. Probably many had significant experience. Did I just get a lot fussier, today. I don't think so. I think they had a less arrogant attitude. Many girls would have been from very poor backgrounds, not from Bangkok.
I do agree it matters if the girl likes the customer a lot, but I still meet a lot more restrictive girls in the modern day at Soapies. I have better success rate with bar girls, due to seeing their figure clearly first, getting time to chat to them to see if we might get on well. Find out if they like Farang dick. Find out if they might be the kissy type.
I still don't understand really though, how come most of my soapy experiences 20 years ago were good, and in modern day, most are average to poor, occasionally getting a good one. I thought I was still basically the same person, got older yes, and speak Thai much better than before. The numbers of good honest wholesome fun loving naturally pretty girls declined, I guess. I probably need to return to the very old fashioned style soapies of yesteryear like the Chao Praya 2, although I fear they only have a limited number of fatties in the modern day. The modern pompous high class soapies with snobbish affected girls are not for me. I like the experienced peasant girls. Good attitude.
Have only been to soapies three times before, first time at Nataree, second at the place next door to Naratee (Nataree 2? And third time at Emmanuelle.
Each had memorable moments, including one at Nataree 2 where a sideline girl was the twin sister of a sidewalk bar girl and was mortified to see me (I think because her sister wasn't aware).
Anyway, this time decided to try The Lord based on recommendations here. It's really quite amazing that the entire building, which looks like an old hotel with a Roman feeling exterior, is dedicated to a "spa". Inside is a version of somewhat dated luxury, but nice enough. A fishbowl of sorts in the middle of the area once you walk up the stairs directed by no fewer than 3 staff members. As soon as I get to the top, I'm shown a card with prices. I guess I got the farang list but not the super-farang list. M level was 5500, and the range was 4500-9000 ish, with 90 min and 2 hour options (if I remember correctly).
One of the agents brought me to the front of the fishbowl where girls are sitting around what looked like a fountain. I'm still a little bit uncomfortable with fishbowls, and lineups at the Macau saunas when 20-30 girls are staring at you sizing you up and you doing the same.
I saw a few cuties, none that were stunners to me personally, but many that would have been great. I settled on a girl who looked vaguely Mongolian, and resembled the Korean actress who played the warrior princess from Marco Polo on Netflix. She was indeed very tall-- 173 cm she says, add 3 inches for the heels. She also turned out to be from Chiang Rai, and had very fair skin and good English with a slight Singlish accent. (ex was Singaporean!
First you stop by the payment counter. Tip for agent of course, 200. Then, once walking through a labyrinth and getting to the room, you have the opportunity to order drinks (extra charge) while supplies are delivered. Small tip for girl who brought drinks (water was 77, did not ask for change) but wonder if people tip more? Did not leave tip for housekeeping either, not sure if I should.
We connected and had good banter which only helped with the session. She was playful, friendly, and also quite sexy throughout, and made the session feel like being with an old flame rather than just going through the motions. She had her routine of course, but was flexible and willing to go with the flow.
Total at the end, tipped her an extra 1000 and ended at 6800.1000 tip at the end might have been a bit much, maybe 500 would have been ok but I really think she provided excellent service.
First you stop by the payment counter. Tip for agent of course, 200. Then, once walking through a labyrinth and getting to the room, you have the opportunity to order drinks (extra charge) while supplies are delivered. Small tip for girl who brought drinks (water was 77, did not ask for change) but wonder if people tip more? Did not leave tip for housekeeping either, not sure if I should.
I don't get the 'of course'. An agent receives a commission so why do they need a tip on top? And given the money this place is raking in they should pay their staff a decent wage. I doubt the drinks girl gets to keep her tips.
Have only been to soapies three times before, first time at Nataree, second at the place next door to Naratee (Nataree 2? And third time at Emmanuelle.
Each had memorable moments, including one at Nataree 2 where a sideline girl was the twin sister of a sidewalk bar girl and was mortified to see me (I think because her sister wasn't aware).
Anyway, this time decided to try The Lord based on recommendations here. It's really quite amazing that the entire building, which looks like an old hotel with a Roman feeling exterior, is dedicated to a "spa". Inside is a version of somewhat dated luxury, but nice enough. A fishbowl of sorts in the middle of the area once you walk up the stairs directed by no fewer than 3 staff members. As soon as I get to the top, I'm shown a card with prices. I guess I got the farang list but not the super-farang list. M level was 5500, and the range was 4500-9000 ish, with 90 min and 2 hour options (if I remember correctly).
One of the agents brought me to the front of the fishbowl where girls are sitting around what looked like a fountain. I'm still a little bit uncomfortable with fishbowls, and lineups at the Macau saunas when 20-30 girls are staring at you sizing you up and you doing the same.
I saw a few cuties, none that were stunners to me personally, but many that would have been great. I settled on a girl who looked vaguely Mongolian, and resembled the Korean actress who played the warrior princess from Marco Polo on Netflix. She was indeed very tall-- 173 cm she says, add 3 inches for the heels. She also turned out to be from Chiang Rai, and had very fair skin and good English with a slight Singlish accent. (ex was Singaporean!
Nataree had two doors, and one door was to the Booran "Ancient Massage" section. Sometimes that section had a better looking girl older girl more to my taste.
Not sure that Mongolian is a compliment to the Korean actress. Mongolian look is for very narrow slit eyes typically and sometimes puffy face. LOL. I agree that probably none are really stunners, that made me choose straight away. In fact I struggled to choose.
I suppose a lot of guys go for looks in the Lord that are a bit Chinese or Korean looking. Turns out very few Korean actresses really look pretty to me, so definitely Korean is not my taste, and Chinese only on occasion like Shu Qi who seems quite non typical. Thai men like chinese looks though, especially the white skin and voluptuous types, where I like much slimmer girls, but with good waist to thigh ratio.
If Irina Shayk is a ten points, then the very best girls in The Lord might be an 8, quite a lot of 7's, and some 6's, and some less, for me. If Irina Shayk walked in the door, no one would still be focussed on the Lord Girls I think. However I occasionally meet an 8 in other circumstances too, just too rarely. I don't have a bias to white skin at all. In fact Irina is perfect example of my taste since she is not so white I think, narrow face, cute nose, slim body, over sized lips, all stunning. I look for Thai girls with face in anyway approximating Irina. Not the round faced types at all. Not the fake hook noses at all. I think Irina clearly has implants. I probably would have preferred her when her tits were small, but I would forgive the implants I guess. LOL There are too few girls in the Lord that resemble Irina face shape in any way I am afraid.
Even in the "then" pic below before Irina was enhanced, she still had natural good looks for my taste. A bit of makeup and would be great without the surgeries. For most girls in The Lord, the surgeries is not enhancing their looks to my eye.
I also include some Mongolian girl pics. One can see the flatter or more rounded faces and slit eyes. Maybe it's weird for me to be in Thailand liking longer slim faces.
I don't get the 'of course'. An agent receives a commission so why do they need a tip on top? And given the money this place is raking in they should pay their staff a decent wage. I doubt the drinks girl gets to keep her tips.They may have been "agents" in Nataree that totally controlled girls lives, but in The Lord they should be called the "CheerPerson" (according to the Thai language term. They are there to recommend and answer questions like what the price system is. They don't necessarily get a kick back payment from all girls. Depends on which girls have an agreement with the Cheerperson. I don't know if this system is prevalent at The Lord or not.
I always made my own choice of girl anyway, so not just taking one picked out by the Cheerperson. In the old days, would tip the Cheerperson 100 baht on the way out, if any good advise was given to help find a good performer. If girl was lousy, then definitely no tip. The Cheerperson should have warned about restrictions, etc. If Cheerperson recommends a girl, I have to take that with a very big grain of salt, in case that comes with a kick-back.
I don't know what the Cheer Person makes as a salary for working there. They may indeed rely on tips for good advice from their regular customers. Mamasan or Papasan is not a term I prefer either. In bars I hate mamasans to be asking me if I will BF the girl. The less contact with a mamasan, the better. Only really useful when customer cannot communicate with the girl directly. I certainly never wish to negotiate a price with a mamasan present.
I also include some Mongolian girl pics. One can see the flatter or more rounded faces and slit eyes. Maybe it's weird for me to be in Thailand liking longer slim faces.I think we have different ideas of what Mongolian girls look like-- I suppose maybe I mean more northern Chinese / Mongolian model look. Tall, slim, longer faces and able to shoot a bow and arrow on horseback. My idea of a woman, LOL.
I don't get the 'of course'. An agent receives a commission so why do they need a tip on top? And given the money this place is raking in they should pay their staff a decent wage. I doubt the drinks girl gets to keep her tips.Noted for future reference. I overtipped and tipped too many people. I typically don't like to overdo anything, so I will chalk it up to tuition and do better next time.
Don't know what to tell you G. Classic is cheap yes, but no bargain. Good sessions there are not the norm. I think you would grow to dislike the place.
Malio Club is one of my two favorite bordellos in Jakarta, but I have never noticed any Viets in Malio? Maybe you are referring to Malioboro Lounge (same building). Over in Malioboro Lounge they do have Viet imports. Its 1,400,000 rp per session with all the import girls, but they are nothing special in my opinion. I would much rather go with the Indo couch girls some of whom are very attractive and at 800,000 rp ($58) and 1,100,000 rp ($80)represent a much better deal to me than the tired, worn out Classic or Travel girls. Of course, that is just my opinion and your friend is welcome to disagree. The really stand out girls in both Malio Club and Malioboro Lounge are the Indo dancers and guess what? They don't come cheap. Malio Indo dancers are 2,000,000 rp ($146) not including drinks and they expect a customer to buy them drinks, several drinks to get friendly, inspect their goods and get things going. Malioboro Indo dancers are a little less costly at 1,700,000 rp.
On a further note I would add that in my other favorite bordello in Jakarta, the Alexis Hotel, sexy hot little Indo girls there are 1,400,000 rp ($102), so not cheap by any standards, but they are super sexy and really aim to please, so totally worth it in my humble opinion and perhaps a better deal than the one currently on offer in BKK Go Go's except that BKK Go Go girls are take out girls while Malio/Alexis/Kings Cross/Classic/Travel girls are in house until you get to know them better. I think that is a big plus for BKK. But if you want to shop around for Viet girls, Alexis is the place to go in Jakarta. The Alexis import Viets are hot! So naturally their price is sky high. Are you sitting down? Alexis Hotel Viet imports are 2,400,000 rp ($175).
Fortunately for my checking account I prefer the younger Indo girls, but I have given in a few times and gone Vietnamese in Alexis. Comparatively speaking, many Alexis Viets look better than many Lord girls, but not all for sure and you will encounter a lot of bolt-ons in both groups (not so with the Indo girls). As for service: The Alexis Viets offer excellent service similar to but not quite as dirty as most of my Lord girls at 6000 baht ($181). So they are both very competiviely priced against one another. BKK remains more the party town with easy accessabilty to most red light places of interest. Jakarta is more spread out and less out in the open. Thus I like to play in Jakarta for limited amounts of time, but I prefer BKK over all. On girl quality alone, I like Thai, Indo and Filipinas almost equally although they look and act very different. Perhaps the Indo girls are my top preference at the moment, but it's very close.
So face it G; it's called the efficient market. Get used to it. The free and rapid flow of information across national borders leads young girls and their employers in all the major capitals of Asia to know exactly how much they can charge for a girl based on her looks, age, and level of expertise. Prices are up everywhere and pretty much equaling out across the board: BKK- MNL- Jakarta-Singapore-Shanghai and even Phnom Penh are equaling out. You can choose to enter the market less often or get yourself a steady girl or two, but you can't really fight this trend, not if we are both talking about high quality girls. Maybe what the market needs in a nuclear mistake in North Korea over Japan. That would drop the price big time and fast.As I have stated many times, 100 USD is ok if performance and looks are there as they are in Jakarta. Of course as you pointed out, 800 k works as well. 2 mil Rup is less than 150 USD. Cheaper than the cheapest Lord Girl. I have never been a fan of take out, so on premise works for me.
Yes, the pricing structure in Asia for P4 P has gone to hell in a hand basket and won't get any better. Shame, as just like so many other things especially in LOS, the more you pay, the less you get.
I would agree with you on Indo gals. They are tops. Just less attitude and more down to earth. But sorry, just can't see spending almost 200 US on any 90 min P4 P experience. I have never seen "markets" as a clear indicator of true value. There are many distortions. The P4 P scene is probably one of the most distorted.
HorseTrader
10-17-17, 11:32
If Irina Shayk is a ten points, then the very best girls in The Lord might be an 8, quite a lot of 7's, and some 6's, and some less, for me. If Irina Shayk walked in the door, no one would still be focussed on the Lord Girls I think. However I occasionally meet an 8 in other circumstances too, just too rarely. I don't have a bias to white skin at all. In fact Irina is perfect example of my taste since she is not so white I think, narrow face, cute nose, slim body, over sized lips, all stunning. I look for Thai girls with face in anyway approximating Irina. Not the round faced types at all. Not the fake hook noses at all. I think Irina clearly has implants. I probably would have preferred her when her tits were small, but I would forgive the implants I guess. LOL There are too few girls in the Lord that resemble Irina face shape in any way I am afraid.Fortunately, we all have different taste. If Irina Shayk was sitting amongst the Lord girls, I would have rated her as average within the group. Having never seen her in person, my comment is based on many photographs and only 2 visits to Lord Palace. I agree that her "then" look was better than the "now" look.
I'm not quite sure why you are so upset. My post was not even directed at you. I was a replying to Lone wolf. The only reason I quoted you was because you had posted a very good report about high end shops The Llrd and I quoted you so Lone Wolf would read your report instead of asking questions that you and other posters had already answered.
Please read my post again. You will see how I referenced your post for the op to read. And right after I said this, I quoted your report.
"This post" refers to your quoted post and "He tells you" refers to you writing the quoted post.
Cheers! Keep up the great reports.I am would like to apologise for what happened. I honestly thought you wrote that to me. I misunderstood your comment. I thought its for me because I too did not write a review yet about a specific girl, a review which is about just one girl. I also asked questions on this website too. I am sorry for being upset with you!
Forgot to write here yesterday that I was told by the provider on Sunday when I was at the Copacabana, that the place will be closed on Thursday the 26th of October next week. Most probably lots of other shops will close too in Ratchada that day.
I don't get the 'of course'. An agent receives a commission so why do they need a tip on top? And given the money this place is raking in they should pay their staff a decent wage. I doubt the drinks girl gets to keep her tips.Once a girl told me at the Lord that I should tip the mamasan. I usually give 200 or 300 THB. At the Lord there is a mamasan Called Tui, she knows me well and I always ask for her when I sit down, she comes over and gives recommendations and shows me the models. I wonder how much the girls get to keep from their rate. Obviously not all because a place like that has so many staff to pay for plus maintenance, utilities, etc. An XL girl told me there once that she used to be working in marketing for a company and she made 20.000 THB a month, she said she can make that money now in one night. OMG I thought! Girls working there must be loaded with cash. No wonder all the high end jewelry and expensive Swiss watches and designer luxury handbags and clothes. She told me that they prefer Chinese customers too, because they drink a lot which is annoying, but when its time for sex, they pop in like in 3 minutes. So easy money I guess. She said 50% of customers are Thai the remaining 40% is Chinese and rest 10% other foreigners.
She told me that once a whole football team from the UK was there to party.
You never had a bad experience? That means you are real easy to please. The way you describe your Poseidon girls, is definitely what most of us would call "a bad experience".
I had one girl at The Lord, rather so-so. Definitely not worth the money. Recently had a more stunning girl to my taste (yes I thought prettier than the Lord girls) at Emmanuelle but quite slim. She was a crap experience. Okay In the tub, lousy on the bed. Just like you describe. Yes a BAD experience.
I have a very poor success rate at La Belle, only my original La Belle girl years ago was any good for me, and she deteriorated over the years, becoming more restrictive and more dick scared, till I dropped her. I hate the tubs in La Belle. Silly shape, and not comfortable. Metal bits sticking out for water spouts. Terrible tubs. It is easy to make a mistake and get a girl with poor to average body once the clothes come off. I fair percentage of girls were dick scared, more used to Asian customers..Your right I had bad experience, the Poseidon and Emanuel and at the Lord the hairy leg hobbit. I should have written it like that before. But I had worse, much worse from an escort from Xclusive Thai, which is probably my worst experience ever. Also had worse experience in Japan at a soapland for higher price. I am satisfied if the girl has pretty face, nice body, and good hygiene and attitude. I don't ask for perverse stuff or anything extreme, so if I get a nice BBJ and she is into passionate kissing and does not give me some mechanical action then I am happy. But I am very very very happy if I can stay after I pop. So far not many girls offered me to stay and I will massage you, or just stay and let's just talk. I mean we pay for 90 minutes, I don't think many people can last 90 minutes without cumming, and they should all offer massage or something at the end. You are right that in the high end places girls are snobbish, I think all the money they make and the lavish lifestyle changes them, but in a bad way. They get stuck up, and think too much of themselves. I would also like to try bar girls at Soi Cowboy one day, just for the experience. But since I'm not a big drinker I was hesitating to go there, but I definitely will one day. Which bar do you recommend to go to, which one has the prettiest girls?
Fortunately, we all have different taste. If Irina Shayk was sitting amongst the Lord girls, I would have rated her as average within the group. Having never seen her in person, my comment is based on many photographs and only 2 visits to Lord Palace. I agree that her "then" look was better than the "now" look.The correct answer is that there is no such thing as a 10. The scale only goes from 0 to 4.
A 0 is a woman you would not f.
A 1 is a woman that you would f.
A 2 is a woman you would DATY then f.
A 3 is a woman you would f (w / o condom), then DATY.
A 4 is a woman you would DATY after your buddy f* her.
I've only ever had one 3 in my entire life!
We need to list the PSE gals who are baby free, not too dark, not fat, and good performers. Very few these days. Emmy and Ae (YMMV) at Snow and Golf at Tulip are the only current ones I would put on the list. The PSE shops are slim pick'ns now.Golf's body is good but it's almost impossible to look at her directly in the face. Last time I was buttfucking her she looked back at me and I thought I would turn to stone. Not sure if I can continue anymore.
Fortunately, we all have different taste. If Irina Shayk was sitting amongst the Lord girls, I would have rated her as average within the group. Having never seen her in person, my comment is based on many photographs and only 2 visits to Lord Palace. I agree that her "then" look was better than the "now" look.Yep. That is why some guys think the Lord is fabulous, and other like me think Ho Hum. You do surprise me though given there is a fair amount of surgeries in The Lord. Perhaps you need white skin. LOL.
I think we have different ideas of what Mongolian girls look like-- I suppose maybe I mean more northern Chinese / Mongolian model look. Tall, slim, longer faces and able to shoot a bow and arrow on horseback. My idea of a woman, LOL.I don't think Mongolian are known for longer faces or like these models. LOL I could be getting confused with Tibetan girls though. I certainly have not been there so no expert. However your pics 1 and 3 look very nice. Pic 2 is slightly behind with less delicate face perhaps. I have been to Guangzhou and was very unimpressed by looks of the girls in general including Miss China I met at the Luhu golf club who was very tall and had a straight non curvy body looking just like a ladyboy (maybe 14 years back). I expect Shanghai must be a lot better.
Golf's body is good but it's almost impossible to look at her directly in the face. Last time I was buttfucking her she looked back at me and I thought I would turn to stone. Not sure if I can continue anymore.You really know how to give polite compliments. LOL However I have been horrified by Tulip line up on some visits and could not bring myself to make a booking.
I rate my GF as a 7 for face and body despite being nearly 40. Probably better than 95% of Oily MP girls for looks which is not too hard. No porn star of course. Conservative and sensitive. However that makes it very hard for me to drop to a much lower standard. Probably could not get the dick to go up being too visually oriented. I get bored with P4 P girls being too ordinary where I don't get bored with the GF. Probably should give up mongering altogether. Have only had a very small number of P4P girls better than the GF for looks (and not by a big margin) that I wanted to repeat. Probably over the years, only 3 bargirls, 3 Oily girls and 3 soapy girls really made the very pretty, great body, and great fun on bed top grade, and some of those deteriorated.
No baby damage but a bit chubby in the gut. As I said, she was my only choice st the time. I won't repaeat but it was worth the time and money for the experience and how I wasn't feeling at the time.Yes, she did have a bit of a gut but what made my session with her good was her level of enthusiasm. I would repeat.
Golf's body is good but it's almost impossible to look at her directly in the face. Last time I was buttfucking her she looked back at me and I thought I would turn to stone. Not sure if I can continue anymore.Yep, not a good head, but compared to the rest of the Tulip lineup, she might as well be Miss Universe. PSE oily looks are pretty bad all around.
Golf's body is good but it's almost impossible to look at her directly in the face. Last time I was buttfucking her she looked back at me and I thought I would turn to stone. Not sure if I can continue anymore.That's a bit harsh. We are lucky that most of the ladies don't have the option or inclination to judge us on the same level because I bet a large percentage of readers here would be rejected and have to stay home spanking their monkeys, myself included. Golf may not be the best looking lady in the business but she is a pro and you are pretty much guaranteed to get what you pay for unlike the majority of the "stunners" out there.
Dextro Sol
10-19-17, 13:07
Went into Snowwhite in the afternoon today. Asked for Candy and she was available. Very slim and next to no tits at all, but I'm not a tit guy so no problem with me. I think Candy looks much better IRL than on their website.
Normal routine, she went to get her things and then she sat on my knee and DFK. After some kissing and touching it was time for shower and then on to bed. She does her job very good, tried most positions before I came first time. After relaxing for a while she asked for a second round and she really tried to make me come a second time, but its hard for med to come twice nowdays. Well, BB from Cherry made me come twice last Friday and an old acquaintance I met last weekend also. Candy tried really hard and at last she took of the condom and gave me a handjob until I came. I didn't ask for her ass and she didn't offer. I did it with BB and for me its not important. All in all, a really nice session and absolutely worth the money.
This was my first visit to Snowwhite in 9 or 10 years, I will never forget Run who worked there long time ago. Somebody remember her? Cute face but terribly baby damage on stomach and tits. But a fantastic fuck. Went to see her twice that holiday. Second time she literally raped me!! When we got our clothes off she pushed me on to the bed and jumped on me and started fucking without condom and before shower. Horniest girl I ever met in Thailand. LOL.
Went into Snowwhite in the afternoon today. Asked for Candy and she was available. Very slim and next to no tits at all, but I'm not a tit guy so no problem with me. I think Candy looks much better IRL than on their website.
Normal routine, she went to get her things and then she sat on my knee and DFK. After some kissing and touching it was time for shower and then on to bed. She does her job very good, tried most positions before I came first time. After relaxing for a while she asked for a second round and she really tried to make me come a second time, but its hard for med to come twice nowdays. Well, BB from Cherry made me come twice last Friday and an old acquaintance I met last weekend also. Candy tried really hard and at last she took of the condom and gave me a handjob until I came. I didn't ask for her ass and she didn't offer. I did it with BB and for me its not important. All in all, a really nice session and absolutely worth the money.
This was my first visit to Snowwhite in 9 or 10 years, I will never forget Run who worked there long time ago. Somebody remember her? Cute face but terribly baby damage on stomach and tits. But a fantastic fuck. Went to see her twice that holiday. Second time she literally raped me!! When we got our clothes off she pushed me on to the bed and jumped on me and started fucking without condom and before shower. Horniest girl I ever met in Thailand. LOL.Snow White wasn't open ten years ago but yes I remember Run. I remember vividly how she pooped all over the sheets and stunk up the room. LOL. She said "I forget go toilet first". Felt bad for the maid who cleaned up that mess. ;)
Dextro Sol
10-19-17, 17:30
Snow White wasn't open ten years ago but yes I remember Run. I remember vividly how she pooped all over the sheets and stunk up the room. LOL. She said "I forget go toilet first". Felt bad for the maid who cleaned up that mess. ;)It was the year the yellow shirts occupied the airport so I had a extra holiday for nearly a week. What did you do that time?? What would anyone done in that situation. I attach a picture I took of her.
What did you do that time?? What would anyone done in that situation. I attach a picture I took of her.What did I do? I finished up and left. I didn't stick around to clean up, that's for sure.
All the shops and girls have there own prices. My one and only was these were very high and bad but I only tried one. The best area is If you go to Soi 11 past the 11/1 connection to villa market you will see a very small hallway go explore in there there are tons of very good shops that only charge 1000 baht plus massage fee. The girl are out at night hawking too. Best I've seen in Bangkok, except for Tulip which you should try see forum.Unfortunately, it seems that these shops will be shut down in a month or so. According to one of the girls still working there. Many have been vacated already. New development I assume.
Quite unfortunate as it was open at absolutely any time of day and service hasn't been bad for the lesser rates asked for there.
"QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2095281 Don't know what to tell you G. Classic is cheap yes, but no bargain. Good sessions there are not the norm. I think you would grow to dislike the place.
Malio Club is one of my two favorite bordellos in Jakarta, but I have never noticed any Viets in Malio? Maybe you are referring to Malioboro Lounge (same building). Over in Malioboro Lounge they do have Viet imports. Its 1,400,000 rp per session with all the import girls, but they are nothing special in my opinion. I would much rather go with the Indo couch girls some of whom are very attractive and at 800,000 rp ($58) and 1,100,000 rp ($80) represent a much better deal to me than the tired, worn out Classic or Travel girls. Of course, that is just my opinion and your friend is welcome to disagree. The really stand out girls in both Malio Club and Malioboro Lounge are the Indo dancers and guess what? They don't come cheap. Malio Indo dancers are 2,000,000 rp ($146) not including drinks and they expect a customer to buy them drinks, several drinks to get friendly, inspect their goods and get things going. Malioboro Indo dancers are a little less costly at 1,700,000 rp.
On a further note I would add that in my other favorite bordello in Jakarta, the Alexis Hotel, sexy hot little Indo girls there are 1,400,000 rp ($102), so not cheap by any standards, but they are super sexy and really aim to please, so totally worth it in my humble opinion and perhaps a better deal than the one currently on offer in BKK Go Go's except that BKK Go Go girls are take out girls while Malio / Alexis / Kings Cross / Classic / Travel girls are in house until you get to know them better. I think that is a big plus for BKK. But if you want to shop around for Viet girls, Alexis is the place to go in Jakarta. The Alexis import Viets are hot! So naturally their price is sky high. Are you sitting down? Alexis Hotel Viet imports are 2,400,000 rp ($175).
Fortunately for my checking account I prefer the younger Indo girls, but I have given in a few times and gone Vietnamese in Alexis. Comparatively speaking, many Alexis Viets look better than many Lord girls, but not all for sure and you will encounter a lot of bolt-ONS in both groups (not so with the Indo girls). As for service: The Alexis Viets offer excellent service similar to but not quite as dirty as most of my Lord girls at 6000 baht ($181). So they are both very competitively priced against one another. BKK remains more the party town with easy accessibility to most red light places of interest. Jakarta is more spread out and less out in the open. Thus I like to play in Jakarta for limited amounts of time, but I prefer BKK over all. On girl quality alone, I like Thai, Indo and Filipinas almost equally although they look and act very different. Perhaps the Indo girls are my top preference at the moment, but it's very close."
I live in Bangkok but was in Indonesia last week for a welcome break. Rather than compare rupiah to dollars, why not compare a strong baht against a falling rupiah? 404 rupiah to 1 baht last week, cheaper still than 6 months ago. Its difficult to compare like for like. Thailand is easy, too easy. Done to death by naive tourists throwing money around wildly at a decreasing pool of increasingly entitled women in an attempt to impress or mistakenly try to encourage loyalty or spend their way into exclusivity. Clearly this works for some, taken in by Lord girls who said that they loved them. Crucially, the Jakarta scene is thankfully mostly driven by locals and will never be a major tourist destination on the scale of Thailand.
Classic and Travel was 350000 (866 baht) for one or 500000 (1237 baht) for two girls last week. What could you get in Bangkok for that? I've had quite good to very good times in these places by never accepting the first girls that they try and foist on me, making my own choices, and taking time to get to know them a bit. Careful selections in both places can yield some really cute looking girls and some pretty good to very good sessions. Both places are enjoyable; they are dark, a bit grungy and full of women and friendly local guys, especially on a Thursday or Friday night.
Ignoring all similar priced places in Jakarta and moving onto one of the most high end places where local guys feeling flush go for a splurge. Malioboro lounge girls on the couches at 800000 (1980 baht) to 1100000 (2722 baht) are indeed very good value. In Bangkok, that would get you an oil massage girl at Snow White. For as long as I can remember, I've not seen anything remotely attractive there that I would take despite the promises of a pornstar performance. It would still probably not get you anything from Thermae, assuming they agreed to lower themselves to go with a non-Asian customer. Some of the girls at Malioboro from that section had bodies that looked like they were drawn form the imagination of 15 year old boys. Yes, the Vietnamese and Russians are expensive at just under 3500 baht I wonder how much we would be charged for them in Bangkok? 3500 baht, still a long way off the bottom rung at Lord and the local Indonesian guys seemed very keen on the Vietnamese. Malio club dancers are also expensive at the local level but I saw not as many tats, poor plastic surgeries or encountered none of the hardcore attitudes as exhibited in somewhere like Crazy House or Baccara. Even though Malioboro and Malio can be a bit of a hassle at first due to demands for lady drinks, they soon catch on.
One of the most high end places in Jakarta, Alexis, is indeed very high quality and the imports are expensive. The locals are still excellent value compared to anything in Bangkok. You're omitting also the ease with which it is to get women to take home in several ways from tourist friendly and over-priced hotel clubs such as CJs and Bats to more difficult to find clubs. The amount of girls and guys trying to make contact on WeChat becomes a nuisance and Tinder is very lively with a whole range of matches. The most important point is the differing attitudes. I find Indonesian girls refreshingly down to earth and less inhibited, perhaps less jaded and with more of a realistic outlook. Definitely a destination for the adventurous that pays dividends the further out you go.
Went into Snowwhite in the afternoon today. Asked for Candy and she was available. Very slim and next to no tits at all, but I'm not a tit guy so no problem with me. I think Candy looks much better IRL than on their website.
Normal routine, she went to get her things and then she sat on my knee and DFK. After some kissing and touching it was time for shower and then on to bed. She does her job very good, tried most positions before I came first time. After relaxing for a while she asked for a second round and she really tried to make me come a second time, but its hard for med to come twice nowdays. Well, BB from Cherry made me come twice last Friday and an old acquaintance I met last weekend also. Candy tried really hard and at last she took of the condom and gave me a handjob until I came. I didn't ask for her ass and she didn't offer. I did it with BB and for me its not important. All in all, a really nice session and absolutely worth the money.
You want to be careful with that abbrev BB. Since normally means Bareback. BeeBee might be safer. LOL.
Candy is probably one of the better looking girls since I was actually willing to try her. Body was quite good standard really. I don't recall the tits being as small as you say (but was a while back so the memory dims). I thought she was very enthusiastic and energetic in a similar way to when first tried Emmy.
Still I don't repeat either girl. Just that the looks are still not enough to really excite, not quite model types, but that is silly me. I am pretty unmotivated by the whole P4 P scene these days. Tend to be sticking to just a very few girls I have known for years, that are well above average in various ways, but specially for face, attitude to making it fun on the bed, and slimmish! No fat thighs.
Like many others, tend to miss some of the long gone girls from years ago. I would happily do many of those if still in reasonably good shape and under 40 years old.
Would be very nice to have a time machine and return to Thailand as was when I was 35. That was great time. Girls were great. No smart phones, and very hard to find addresses if you did not know where the place was. The latest gadgets were Pocket Organisers.
Even better, return to when I was 27, since my first trip to Thailand when 27, was when I was stuck with a wife in tow. I imagine a fuck in an MP would have cost 200 to 300 Baht max in those days (35 years ago). Just guessing. I recall paying 1 K for added fuck in a Soapy 17 years ago. 26 years ago in a soapy I think was 500 Baht maybe less (memory is faded). So just extrapolating a bit.
Dextro Sol
10-21-17, 18:32
You want to be careful with that abbrev BB. Since normally means Bareback. BeeBee might be safer. LOL.
Candy is probably one of the better looking girls since I was actually willing to try her. Body was quite good standard really. I don't recall the tits being as small as you say (but was a while back so the memory dims). I thought she was very enthusiastic and energetic in a similar way to when first tried Emmy.
Still I don't repeat either girl. Just that the looks are still not enough to really excite, not quite model types, but that is silly me. I am pretty unmotivated by the whole P4 P scene these days. Tend to be sticking to just a very few girls I have known for years, that are well above average in various ways, but specially for face, attitude to making it fun on the bed, and slimmish! No fat thighs.
Like many others, tend to miss some of the long gone girls from years ago. I would happily do many of those if still in reasonably good shape and under 40 years old.
Would be very nice to have a time machine and return to Thailand as was when I was 35. That was great time. Girls were great. No smart phones, and very hard to find addresses if you did not know where the place was. The latest gadgets were Pocket Organisers.
Even better, return to when I was 27, since my first trip to Thailand when 27, was when I was stuck with a wife in tow. I imagine a fuck in an MP would have cost 200 to 300 Baht max in those days (35 years ago). Just guessing. I recall paying 1 K for added fuck in a Soapy 17 years ago. 26 years ago in a soapy I think was 500 Baht maybe less (memory is faded). So just extrapolating a bit.Thanks for correcting me, I think I was just to quick on the keybord when I wrote BB, I should of course have added "from Cherry Massage". What a coincidence, I was also 27,35 years ago, so we share the same age. Unfortunately I didn't know much about Thailand at that time. It took me another 23 years until I came here first time, not even then I realized what it would do to me. Year after that, in 2006 I had my first experience at Sabai Sabai, just behind Cheap Charlies. My wife at that time and I had been shopping all day and I had seen the sign about massage in the alley. We went there and the girl offered me a handjob while my wife got her massage a bit away from me. Unforgetable!
I share a memory with you. 4. 5 years ago in Suzi Wong I took Bow to my hotel. Evening after I had promised myself to have a day off from sex (Can't understand why) but went to Suzies anyway and had Bow on my lap. Told her I had a day off, and she ran over to you, sitting on the opposite side of the stage.
UShobbyist
10-21-17, 21:19
You want to be careful with that abbrev BB. Since normally means Bareback. BeeBee might be safer. LOL.
Candy is probably one of the better looking girls since I was actually willing to try her. Body was quite good standard really. I don't recall the tits being as small as you say (but was a while back so the memory dims). I thought she was very enthusiastic and energetic in a similar way to when first tried Emmy.
Still I don't repeat either girl. Just that the looks are still not enough to really excite, not quite model types, but that is silly me. I am pretty unmotivated by the whole P4 P scene these days. Tend to be sticking to just a very few girls I have known for years, that are well above average in various ways, but specially for face, attitude to making it fun on the bed, and slimmish! No fat thighs.
Like many others, tend to miss some of the long gone girls from years ago. I would happily do many of those if still in reasonably good shape and under 40 years old.
Would be very nice to have a time machine and return to Thailand as was when I was 35. That was great time. Girls were great. No smart phones, and very hard to find addresses if you did not know where the place was. The latest gadgets were Pocket Organisers.
Even better, return to when I was 27, since my first trip to Thailand when 27, was when I was stuck with a wife in tow. I imagine a fuck in an MP would have cost 200 to 300 Baht max in those days (35 years ago). Just guessing. I recall paying 1 K for added fuck in a Soapy 17 years ago. 26 years ago in a soapy I think was 500 Baht maybe less (memory is faded). So just extrapolating a bit.Hi, Syzygies. Can you estimate how many girls still do CIM in those massage parlors of Phrom Phong area? Thanks.
Thanks for correcting me, I think I was just to quick on the keybord when I wrote BB, I should of course have added "from Cherry Massage". What a coincidence, I was also 27,35 years ago, so we share the same age. Unfortunately I didn't know much about Thailand at that time. It took me another 23 years until I came here first time, not even then I realized what it would do to me. Year after that, in 2006 I had my first experience at Sabai Sabai, just behind Cheap Charlies. My wife at that time and I had been shopping all day and I had seen the sign about massage in the alley. We went there and the girl offered me a handjob while my wife got her massage a bit away from me. Unforgetable!
I share a memory with you. 4. 5 years ago in Suzi Wong I took Bow to my hotel. Evening after I had promised myself to have a day off from sex (Can't understand why) but went to Suzies anyway and had Bow on my lap. Told her I had a day off, and she ran over to you, sitting on the opposite side of the stage.Okay I exaggerated slightly was only 34 years ago for me being 27. I suppose you know Bo came to me because I posted a report that matched. LOL She must have wanted a fuck. I had plenty of girls at Suzi but usually took Bo if she was available in those days. Bo is retired now with family and kids. Yet she was bi-sexual as she had a Tom in place of a BF for a while, and had to pretend to the Tom that she did not like guys and did not like dick. LOL We know that she could be horny with guys quite easily, and did like dick.
Bo was always good for me usually in threesomes, often paired with Dtom, who I just reported in another post. I guess I have known Bo maybe since 8 to 10 years ago, but that is no matter. 3 Ex Suzie Wong girls (Pat, Maa, and Noi) were in Shark tonight (they can all do threesomes pretty good based on my past experience) and one ex Sheba girl. Actually Noi was ex-Sheba as well as ex-SW.
Hi, Syzygies. Can you estimate how many girls still do CIM in those massage parlors of Phrom Phong area? Thanks.Maybe someone else can answer your question, I cannot since I never was a big CIM man. Have had the odd CIM but not regularly. I always wanted to fuck the pussy. I have not been using MPs in Prom Pong much recently. Last year had a good girl Pink in New Massage Soi 33 but she is gone. Never tried to get a CIM. This year had a pretty girl in Orient but again never tried to get CIM. Also gone.
Gave up my Mango girls. I am sure they would do CIM 90% chance. Did do anal once with Ae. She was willing once she got her pop first.
For sure you get CIM in BJ parlours. Also should be readily available in Tulip, Mango, Snow White, Cherry, and Bamboo massage at the very least. Eih Toom might be an expert on CIM availability since he mentions it a lot in posts.
I am satisfied if the girl has pretty face, nice body, and good hygiene and attitude. I don't ask for perverse stuff or anything extreme, so if I get a nice BBJ and she is into passionate kissing and does not give me some mechanical action then I am happy. But I am very very very happy if I can stay after I pop. Sure I am happy in the same way. I am not that demanding except for want girls with stamina. Most Thai girls are fastidiously clean, especially in Soapies, so not sure why Hygiene gets a mention.
In my case I almost never pop well before the time is up. Even so very rare to get Soapy girls trying to rush me out, unless time is really up.
"QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2095281 Don't know what to tell you G. Classic is cheap yes, but no bargain. Good sessions there are not the norm. I think you would grow to dislike the place.
Malio Club is one of my two favorite bordellos in Jakarta, but I have never noticed any Viets in Malio? Maybe you are referring to Malioboro Lounge (same building). Over in Malioboro Lounge they do have Viet imports. Its 1,400,000 rp per session with all the import girls, but they are nothing special in my opinion. I would much rather go with the Indo couch girls some of whom are very attractive and at 800,000 rp ($58) and 1,100,000 rp ($80) represent a much better deal to me than the tired, worn out Classic or Travel girls. Of course, that is just my opinion and your friend is welcome to disagree. The really stand out girls in both Malio Club and Malioboro Lounge are the Indo dancers and guess what? They don't come cheap. Malio Indo dancers are 2,000,000 rp ($146) not including drinks and they expect a customer to buy them drinks, several drinks to get friendly, inspect their goods and get things going. Malioboro Indo dancers are a little less costly at 1,700,000 rp.
On a further note I would add that in my other favorite bordello in Jakarta, the Alexis Hotel, sexy hot little Indo girls there are 1,400,000 rp ($102), so not cheap by any standards, but they are super sexy and really aim to please, so totally worth it in my humble opinion and perhaps a better deal than the one currently on offer in BKK Go Go's except that BKK Go Go girls are take out girls while Malio / Alexis / Kings Cross / Classic / Travel girls are in house until you get to know them better. I think that is a big plus for BKK. But if you want to shop around for Viet girls, Alexis is the place to go in Jakarta. The Alexis import Viets are hot! So naturally their price is sky high. Are you sitting down? Alexis Hotel Viet imports are 2,400,000 rp ($175).
Fortunately for my checking account I prefer the younger Indo girls, but I have given in a few times and gone Vietnamese in Alexis. Comparatively speaking, many Alexis Viets look better than many Lord girls, but not all for sure and you will encounter a lot of bolt-ONS in both groups (not so with the Indo girls). As for service: The Alexis Viets offer excellent service similar to but not quite as dirty as most of my Lord girls at 6000 baht ($181). So they are both very competitively priced against one another. BKK remains more the party town with easy accessibility to most red light places of interest. Jakarta is more spread out and less out in the open. Thus I like to play in Jakarta for limited amounts of time, but I prefer BKK over all. On girl quality alone, I like Thai, Indo and Filipinas almost equally although they look and act very different. Perhaps the Indo girls are my top preference at the moment, but it's very close."
I live in Bangkok but was in Indonesia last week for a welcome break. Rather than compare rupiah to dollars, why not compare a strong baht against a falling rupiah? 404 rupiah to 1 baht last week, cheaper still than 6 months ago. Its difficult to compare like for like. Thailand is easy, too easy. Done to death by naive tourists throwing money around wildly at a decreasing pool of increasingly entitled women in an attempt to impress or mistakenly try to encourage loyalty or spend their way into exclusivity. Clearly this works for some, taken in by Lord girls who said that they loved them. Crucially, the Jakarta scene is thankfully mostly driven by locals and will never be a major tourist destination on the scale of Thailand.
Classic and Travel was 350000 (866 baht) for one or 500000 (1237 baht) for two girls last week. What could you get in Bangkok for that? I've had quite good to very good times in these places by never accepting the first girls that they try and foist on me, making my own choices, and taking time to get to know them a bit. Careful selections in both places can yield some really cute looking girls and some pretty good to very good sessions. Both places are enjoyable; they are dark, a bit grungy and full of women and friendly local guys, especially on a Thursday or Friday night.
Ignoring all similar priced places in Jakarta and moving onto one of the most high end places where local guys feeling flush go for a splurge. Malioboro lounge girls on the couches at 800000 (1980 baht) to 1100000 (2722 baht) are indeed very good value. In Bangkok, that would get you an oil massage girl at Snow White. For as long as I can remember, I've not seen anything remotely attractive there that I would take despite the promises of a pornstar performance. It would still probably not get you anything from Thermae, assuming they agreed to lower themselves to go with a non-Asian customer. Some of the girls at Malioboro from that section had bodies that looked like they were drawn form the imagination of 15 year old boys. Yes, the Vietnamese and Russians are expensive at just under 3500 baht I wonder how much we would be charged for them in Bangkok? 3500 baht, still a long way off the bottom rung at Lord and the local Indonesian guys seemed very keen on the Vietnamese. Malio club dancers are also expensive at the local level but I saw not as many tats, poor plastic surgeries or encountered none of the hardcore attitudes as exhibited in somewhere like Crazy House or Baccara. Even though Malioboro and Malio can be a bit of a hassle at first due to demands for lady drinks, they soon catch on.
One of the most high end places in Jakarta, Alexis, is indeed very high quality and the imports are expensive. The locals are still excellent value compared to anything in Bangkok. You're omitting also the ease with which it is to get women to take home in several ways from tourist friendly and over-priced hotel clubs such as CJs and Bats to more difficult to find clubs. The amount of girls and guys trying to make contact on WeChat becomes a nuisance and Tinder is very lively with a whole range of matches. The most important point is the differing attitudes. I find Indonesian girls refreshingly down to earth and less inhibited, perhaps less jaded and with more of a realistic outlook. Definitely a destination for the adventurous that pays dividends the further out you go.A spot on assessment. Could not agree more. I think if prices and attitudes were as such in BKK we would all be far happier with the scene. Well, the residents and extended stay visitors would be. I don't think it matters to the visitors who are only here for a couple of weeks at a time. Even if they are here multiple times per year, their agenda is very different.
Dextro Sol
10-22-17, 12:26
3 Ex Suzie Wong girls (Pat, Maa, and Noi) were in Shark tonight (they can all do threesomes pretty good based on my past experience) and one ex Sheba girl. Actually Noi was ex-Sheba as well as ex-SW.Is Maa really back in buisness. She went to live with her german BF in Chiang Mai 4 years ago. I used to look at her pictures on facebook that time and they seemed so happy. Then suddenly about a year ago she closed down her facebook and it has never come up since. I never did her, only spent a weekend with her and her BF together with Fon from SW that time. Would be nice to see her again.
For sure you get CIM in BJ parlours. Also should be readily available in Tulip, Mango, Snow White, Cherry, and Bamboo massage at the very least. Eih Toom might be an expert on CIM availability since he mentions it a lot in posts.To the original question about the number or percentage of girls in the massage shops in the Phrom Phong area who provide CIM, I would have no idea since I am not sure I have ever gotten as far as cumming in mouth or otherwise in any of those massage shops. lol. And that is despite the fact that I have had sessions in places like Cherry, Mango, Tulip (as I recall, not sure now since it was a few years ago) and Bamboo (not Phrom Phong area, of course). And I had sessions with girls who were highly touted on these boards for providing such fine GFE or PSE service. But for me they didn't. Those kind of shops are obviously not my thing since I found the service in them to be so mechanical and so utterly lacking in eroticism, in a couple of cases so weird and counterproductive in terms of so-called "skills", particularly in the oral realm (I am not interested at all in butt-play), that I just called off the session, cleaned up and went on my way without finishing.
I did have a BBBJ+CIM finish once with a girl in an ordinary massage shop in the Khaosan Road area and with a couple of girls I took from the shops in the Soi 11 Villa Market arcade area, all of which are set to be closed down by the end of the year for some other kind of development. But never in any of the so-called PSE shops as I recall. I did have girls in those shops I mentioned above start to provide a purported BBBJ+CIM for me. But I found the skills and atmosphere so lacking in what it would take to get me off that way I have no idea what they really would have done at the finish since I never got close to finishing with them.
As of this writing, my most rewarding BBBJ+CIM experiences in Thailand have all been with go-go dancers, beer bar girls, freelancers, BJ Bar girls and just regular non P4P dates, girls I have met online, in restaurants and mall shops around town.
To the original question about the number or percentage of girls in the massage shops in the Phrom Phong area who provide CIM, I would have no idea since I am not sure I have ever gotten as far as cumming in mouth or otherwise in any of those massage shops. lol. And that is despite the fact that I have had sessions in places like Cherry, Mango, Tulip (as I recall, not sure now since it was a few years ago) and Bamboo (not Phrom Phong area, of course). And had sessions with girls who were highly touted on these boards for providing such fine GFE or PSE service. But for me they didn't. Those kind of shops are obviously not my thing since I found the service in them to be so mechanical and so utterly lacking in eroticism, in a couple of cases so weird and counterproductive in terms of so-called "skills", particularly in the oral realm (I am not interested at all in butt-play), that I just called off the session, cleaned up and went on my way without finishing.
I did have a BBBJ+CIM finish once with a girl in an ordinary massage shop in the Khaosan Road area and with a couple of girls I took from the shops in the Soi 11 Villa Market arcade area, all of which are set to be closed down by the end of the year for some other kind of development. But never in any of the so-called PSE shops as I recall. I did have girls in those shops start to provide a purported BBBJ+CIM for me. But I found the skills and atmosphere so lacking in what it would take to get me off that way I have no idea what they really would have done at the finish since I never got close to finishing with them.
As of this writing, my rewarding BBBJ+CIM experiences in Thailand have all been with go-go dancers, beer bar girls, freelancers, BJ Bar girls and just regular non P4P dates, girls I have met online, in restaurants and mall shops around town.Going to Thailand in a week and I'm looking for some massage-time. I mailed Cherry Massage and they assured me that BBBJ, RIM, CIM are standard. This sounds all very nice indeed. However, they avoided my question about which girls provide CIM + swallow. My experience with freelancers or regular Thai girls is that some swallow, but only if they like you. I don't have time to experiment this time round so it would be nice to know beforehand.
I read here that Candy at Snow White is a swallower. Is that still the case? Which other girls are known swallower?
I read bad reviews about Katherine at MyThaiTourGuide, so that one's off the list.
Going to Thailand in a week and I'm looking for some massage-time. I mailed Cherry Massage and they assured me that BBBJ, RIM, CIM are standard. This sounds all very nice indeed. However, they avoided my question about which girls provide CIM + swallow. My experience with freelancers or regular Thai girls is that some swallow, but only if they like you. I don't have time to experiment this time round so it would be nice to know beforehand.
I read here that Candy at Snow White is a swallower. Is that still the case? Which other girls are known swallower?
I read bad reviews about Katherine at MyThaiTourGuide, so that one's off the list.In my opinion, BBBJTCWS ought to be included on massage shop menus and openly discussed as negotiable options among mamasans and their girls in the go-go bars, beer bars, among freelancers and so on as well as BBFS. But, of course, they are not. There is just too much weird reaction attached to discussions of those two particular activities in Thailand. When seasoned "experts" here and elsewhere assure the rest of us we should have no qualms or hesitation about asking mamasans and papasans in this or that venue which girls provide this or that service because, you know, "they've heard it all before, you can't shock them", my impression is they are not talking about BBBJTCWS or BBFS.
I suspect most Thai mamasans and papasans would at least feign mild shock and disgust if you asked them which of their girls will engage in either of those activities with you as a customer and would not point out any of them for you. It's not that their girls don't do it. Some will for some customers just like almost everything else. It's just that Thai people would not be inclined to admit openly that they do it and would not want it mentioned publicly that they do. And when you scratch the surface of the "experts" who assured us we ought to go right ahead and "ask the mamasans and girls about anything you want because they can't be shocked. Really. Anything", even THEY are sometimes shocked to discover many of us have an idea that "anything" ought to naturally, calmly and logically include finishing a blowjob fully and completely as god meant it to be finished as well as having penile-vaginal sexual intercourse the way god meant us to have it. LOL.
I know it would be hard for some here to believe but within the past 3-4 years there were a couple of Thai escort service agencies whose online websites did include "swallowing" as a service option the girls could put a check mark next to on their profiles right there with DFK, BBBJ, CIM, Rimming, Couples, A+ Level Service, etc. I don't remember the names of those escort services and can not now find any online with that same format that includes "swallowing". But they did exist and, lo and behold, there was a girl or two on each of them that did have a lovely check mark next to that option in their profiles. Their photos suggested they were at least as attractive as the other girls too. I have no idea why that format was changed in just the last handful of years and why "swallowing" no longer appears as an option in such a format. But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the agencies had to drop it and remove that option from their list because the rare girlsl who boldly put a check mark next to that service on the list were getting all the bookings and none of the other girls were making any money. LOL. Same likely outcome if BBFS was included on such a list and only a couple of girls put a check mark next to it.
I would say your experience as you mentioned in the quote above is still about right on the subject. Like BBFS, Swallowing is done and probably done by more girls than most would believe. It just depends on for whom and neither of those services are going to be agreed to across the board with any customer who shows up. So it is not a service one can identify with a particular girl with any confidence that she would provide it for the next guy because that girl might say no to me and yes to almost every other man she meets or vice versa. Sure, if it was included on the menu as it used to be included on a couple of escort service website formats, then the girls who put a check mark next to that service could reasonably be relied upon to do it for whoever shows up. But that isn't how Thailand handles or regards those activities. Yet.
I suspect most Thai mamasans and papasans would at least feign mild shock and disgust if you asked them which of their girls will engage in either of those activities with you as a customer and would not point out any of them for youMaybe, maybe not. I think it may be a somewhat common request for Thai's. I was in Alaina soapy and the mamasan just straight up said to me "I can tell you which girl not use condom if you like that, no problem. " They said this because they knew I lived in the area and wanted my repeat business. I didn't have the nerve to answer yes to her question LOL, not that I don't mind BBFS. Also the girls at alaina, selection is too few so I don't really care if they did offer BBFS anyway.
Maybe, maybe not. I think it may be a somewhat common request for Thai's. I was in Alaina soapy and the mamasan just straight up said to me "I can tell you which girl not use condom if you like that, no problem. " They said this because they knew I lived in the area and wanted my repeat business. I didn't have the nerve to answer yes to her question LOL, not that I don't mind BBFS. Also the girls at alaina, selection is too few so I don't really care if they did offer BBFS anyway.Then it's a shame the best pro customer service mamasan in all of Thailand is working at a soapy with so few girls. LOL. How long ago was this?
Then it's a shame the best pro customer service mamasan in all of Thailand is working at a soapy with so few girls. LOL. How long ago was this?2 years ago, back when nataree was still open too. There were like 20 girls available at Alaina during just 1 pm. I went there recently and there were only 4 girls during prime time (8 pm) and I quickly waked out. Soapies are really under stocked now. With so many closing or merging and I'm sure many to close or consolidate soon too. I think maybe girls moved out to places like Macau / everywhere else and all the crack downs had some kind of impact. I also went to Ocean 2 and it was fairly under-stocked compared to before. But not as few as 4 girls (well there were 8 girls and about 3 left as I was walking out so yeah about the same as alaina).
2 years ago, back when nataree was still open too. There were like 20 girls available at Alaina during just 1 pm. I went there recently and there were only 4 girls during prime time (8 pm) and I quickly waked out. Soapies are really under stocked now. With so many closing or merging and I'm sure many to close or consolidate soon too. I think maybe girls moved out to places like Macau / everywhere else and all the crack downs had some kind of impact. I also went to Ocean 2 and it was fairly under-stocked compared to before. But not as few as 4 girls (well there were 8 girls and about 3 left as I was walking out so yeah about the same as alaina).I see. In your most recent visit (was it within the past 6 months?), did you happen to encounter the same mamasan you mentioned before? My experiences with soapies, oilies and most other kinds of massage shops have been so abysmal, perhaps only a really pro-actively informative mamasan like the one you mentioned would be the only reason I would bother risking flushing 2,500+ baht or whatever it is down the toilet in one again. Of course, the girl would have to make the cut in terms of attractiveness and a basic level of positive or intriguing attitude as well.
I see. In your most recent visit (was it within the past 6 months?), did you happen to encounter the same mamasan you mentioned before? My experiences with soapies, oilies and most other kinds of massage shops have been so abysmal, perhaps only a really pro-actively informative mamasan like the one you mentioned would be the only reason I would bother risking flushing 2,500+ baht or whatever it is down the toilet in one again. Of course, the girl would have to make the cut in terms of attractiveness and a basic level of positive or intriguing attitude as well.I can't recall if it was the same mamasan. I don't think it was. And my most recent visit was like 2 weeks ago, probably my last too. Oh and their prices were up a lot, from before. Before, it was much more reasonable like 2500. Now it was like 3000-ish and up. I think the Nataree style crackdowns (no Burma / laotion / etc women) hurt the supply / demand factor here.
Hi, I'm visiting Bangkok for a week with the boys on someone's stag do. We are looking for a nice massage parlour which is luxurious, discreet and offers plenty of services! Please let me know of some suggestions!
I also went to Ocean 2 and it was fairly under-stocked compared to before. What do you mean by "Ocean 2"? In RatchadaPhisek Soi 7 Alley it is just called Ocean, so are you referring too that or something else?
I seem to recall something with a similar name around Ngam Wong Wian area.
What do you mean by "Ocean 2"? In RatchadaPhisek Soi 7 Alley it is just called Ocean, so are you referring too that or something else?
I seem to recall something with a similar name around Ngam Wong Wian area.Ahah, my memory is failing. It used to be called "Colonze 2" so that's how the extra 2 got in there. Thanks for the clarification otherwise people wouldn't be able to find it.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 06:47
Visited yesterday at 2 PM. Only about 6 girls there and only one girl caught my eye, but she was absolutely gorgeous, a 10. Perfect body, all natural assets, not even a nose job or filler. 23 years old, 170 cm, and long strawberry blond hair with white skin. I didn't waste any time as there were other punters pointing at her. She told me she comes from Khon Khean and studies in Bangkok. She was a K class lady so 6,600 Baht. This is the 3rd or 4th level. I'm not sure about the punter who posted 9-15 K because out to lunch those prices are. However, she did tell me she hates Indian guys so maybe they have their own special inflated prices to discourage them.
Anyways, paid upfront and up to the room. In my opinion, the rooms are getting a little dated but still much better than others. She told me she was very surprised I picked her because she normally doesn't appeal to white men, mostly Asians from HK and Singapore. Anyways she undressed and I was amazed at her perfect body. However she is not one to pamper her customers in the tub or after with a massage. I did get a decent BBJ in the tub. There was a lot of talk from her asking many questions in mixed Thai and English. She was the most wonderful thing to look at in mish, doggy, amd cowgirl. I will never forget the time I spent with her. So in the end if you want to fuck one of the most beautiful model type Thai girls, then run to choose her. However don't expect her to be your PSE or GFE queen. She does not need to be because of her popularity. She's not a star fish either though.
On a side note from our many conversations. She just ended a relationship few months ago. Apparently she was dating a doctor and caught him fucking a married lady. She showed me all the photos from their facebooks and told me the whole drama. This guy must be stupid to have let this one go.
For all you curious George's, she told me the girls split the rates 50/50. She gets 2-3 customers per day, so about 60 K per month as she only works 10 days. She is studying for her MBA.
Miss my Angel already but right after I headed to Saphan Kwai. The only red light district open yesterday.
Visited yesterday at 2 PM. Only about 6 girls there and only one girl caught my eye, but she was absolutely gorgeous, a 10. Perfect body, all natural assets, not even a nose job or filler. 23 years old, 170 cm, and long strawberry blond hair with white skin. I didn't waste any time as there were other punters pointing at her. She told me she comes from Khon Khean and studies in Bangkok. She was a K class lady so 6,600 Baht. This is the 3rd or 4th level. I'm not sure about the punter who posted 9-15 K because out to lunch those prices are. However, she did tell me she hates Indian guys so maybe they have their own special inflated prices to discourage them.
Anyways, paid upfront and up to the room. In my opinion, the rooms are getting a little dated but still much better than others. She told me she was very surprised I picked her because she normally doesn't appeal to white men, mostly Asians from HK and Singapore. Anyways she undressed and I was amazed at her perfect body. However she is not one to pamper her customers in the tub or after with a massage. I did get a decent BBJ in the tub. There was a lot of talk from her asking many questions in mixed Thai and English. She was the most wonderful thing to look at in mish, doggy, amd cowgirl. I will never forget the time I spent with her. So in the end if you want to fuck one of the most beautiful model type Thai girls, then run to choose her. However don't expect her to be your PSE or GFE queen. She does not need to be because of her popularity. She's not a star fish either though.
On a side note from our many conversations. She just ended a relationship few months ago. Apparently she was dating a doctor and caught him fucking a married lady. She showed me all the photos from their facebooks and told me the whole drama. This guy must be stupid to have let this one go.
For all you curious George's, she told me the girls split the rates 50/50. She gets 2-3 customers per day, so about 60 K per month as she only works 10 days. She is studying for her MBA.
Miss my Angel already but right after I headed to Saphan Kwai. The only red light district open yesterday.One of my best ever MP ladies was called BaiFern. It is not same one by any chance? The age sounds about right and coloured hair would be expected. Perhaps not, since I am sure my Bai Fern appealed to Farangs as well. Vivacious, GFE, and a lot of fun, not to mention a perfect body, close to a 10.
Member #4591
10-28-17, 08:07
One of my best ever MP ladies was called BaiFern. It is not same one by any chance? The age sounds about right and coloured hair would be expected. Perhaps not, since I am sure my Bai Fern appealed to Farangs as well. Vivacious, GFE, and a lot of fun, not to mention a perfect body, close to a 10.Nope. This is her.
Nope. This is her.Wow very pretty indeed despite a funny nose job. Whoops supposedly no nose job, but I think she may have been fibbing there. Does not look quite natural to me. Close to a 10. One wonders why a girl wants to mess with her natural beauty. Would be interesting to see what she looked like as a teenager.
Thai girls strangely fib about surgeries even in some cases where the silicones are extremely obvious. One of CH girls took over a year before she would admit to the nose job, because she thought it was such a good one she could pass for natural.
Nope. This is her.Great looking gal. If she provided PSE and MSOG then I would be willing to spring for the cash. Sadly in Thailand as looking increase, performance decreases.
Great looking gal. If she provided PSE and MSOG then I would be willing to spring for the cash. Sadly in Thailand as looking increase, performance decreases.I don't see the correlation (or anti-correlation) is really strong, however there is the concept that fabulous lookers can get customers without needing to perform or have a good attitude. When the girl has a good attitude, her performance can still be crap, lacking experience.
The other problem is fabulous lookers who also perform get extracted from the P4 P availability pool quick and lively. I just don't find the real stunners can last unless there are problems attached to them, so that no one wants to be the sugar daddy.
If you want porn stars then the problem is bigger since stunners just don't need to perform like pornstars. Incentive is low.
My last stunning soapy girl was total crap yet she acted like she had had plenty of Farang giks that were happy with her.
Some guys don't need anything other than a beautiful hole to fuck. No skills required whatsoever. Not even DFK, DATY and a good BBBJ.
I have got by with no BJ if the girl was good in other respects, and stunning. LOL.
I have not been trained to take the lousiest looking girls. I find the very plain girls can be equally crappy.
I don't see the correlation (or anti-correlation) is really strong, however there is the concept that fabulous lookers can get customers without needing to perform or have a good attitude. When the girl has a good attitude, her performance can still be crap, lacking experience.
The other problem is fabulous lookers who also perform get extracted from the P4 P availability pool quick and lively. I just don't find the real stunners can last unless there are problems attached to them, so that no one wants to be the sugar daddy.
If you want porn stars then the problem is bigger since stunners just don't need to perform like pornstars. Incentive is low.
My last stunning soapy girl was total crap yet she acted like she had had plenty of Farang giks that were happy with her.
Some guys don't need anything other than a beautiful hole to fuck. No skills required whatsoever. Not even DFK, DATY and a good BBBJ.
I have got by with no BJ if the girl was good in other respects, and stunning. LOL.
I have not been trained to take the lousiest looking girls. I find the very plain girls can be equally crappy.Yep, punters with low expectations are the problem. Also at issue is the fact the local guys just want a hole to stick it in as well. It's a trophy them, so the experience itself matters little. In addition Thais attitude towards sex is a problem. They are by nature very conservative. I remember one bar girl over a decade ago with whom I tried to engage in some kinky talk in the room and she looked at me and said, "I am not a dirty girl." Found that funny since she had probably been pounded by over a kilometer of pecker over the past year. It is a bit better these days, but not much. Seems the uglier a gal is the more willing she is to embrace pleasures of the flesh. The Thai soaps depict gals that are very pretty but at the same time are a bit frigid. They also dress very conservatively. If a gal is the least bit erotic or sexual, she is "bad." They all strive to be pretty and cold. It's the trend. Contrast that with some of the Chinese tourist gals walking around BKK with asses handing out of their short shorts. Smile at one of them and they'll shoot you a look like they'll ride your cock off in bed. Love 'em. A far cry from the demure Thai gal. Uber slutty girls with dirty minds are one of life's true joys. I've always said, "I like the girl next door if I am living next to a brothel."
If customers were more demanding and would voice displeasure to the provider and management, we might see a change. I am not holding my breath.
Member #4591
10-29-17, 06:16
Yep, punters with low expectations are the problem. Also at issue is the fact the local guys just want a hole to stick it in as well. It's a trophy them, so the experience itself matters little. In addition Thais attitude towards sex is a problem. They are by nature very conservative. I remember one bar girl over a decade ago with whom I tried to engage in some kinky talk in the room and she looked at me and said, "I am not a dirty girl." Found that funny since she had probably been pounded by over a kilometer of pecker over the past year. It is a bit better these days, but not much. Seems the uglier a gal is the more willing she is to embrace pleasures of the flesh. The Thai soaps depict gals that are very pretty but at the same time are a bit frigid. They also dress very conservatively. If a gal is the least bit erotic or sexual, she is "bad." They all strive to be pretty and cold. It's the trend. Contrast that with some of the Chinese tourist gals walking around BKK with asses handing out of their short shorts. Smile at one of them and they'll shoot you a look like they'll ride your cock off in bed. Love 'em. A far cry from the demure Thai gal. Uber slutty girls with dirty minds are one of life's true joys. I've always said, "I like the girl next door if I am living next to a brothel."
If customers were more demanding and would voice displeasure to the provider and management, we might see a change. I am not holding my breath.Here is a video clip of sex with a Thai pretty and her boyfriend. With the exception of doggy and mish, this is how our session was, including the hugging. Oh and of course no BB and cum in pussy like this video, but most Thai girls do it with their boyfriend.
https://m.spankbang.com/4o8j/video/thai+pretty+fuck+with+boyfriend.
I would say, this is how most of the (pretty) Thai girls make love with their boyfriends. They are however mostly not into the marathon sex sessions but some can go for a good while but most are not used to a usually bigger Western cock.
Here is a video clip of sex with a Thai pretty and her boyfriend. With the exception of doggy and mish, this is how our session was, including the hugging. Oh and of course no BB and cum in pussy like this video, but most Thai girls do it with their boyfriend.
https://m.spankbang.com/4o8j/video/thai+pretty+fuck+with+boyfriend.
I would say, this is how most of the (pretty) Thai girls make love with their boyfriends. They are however mostly not into the marathon sex sessions but some can go for a good while but most are not used to a usually bigger Western cock.I notice she made the classic Thai girl mistake of just pouncing on his dick and pumping it for pre-fuck oral foreplay as though she was trying to make him cum that way quickly instead of doing it to make him hornier or harder for fucking. There was an utter lack of sensuality about it, just pumping, zero attention to his balls, no slow and sensual kissing and licking along the sides or anything other than dick in mouth with hand wrapped around it and start pumping. Honestly, it didn't look like that was making him hornier or harder either. I would need to fix that problem if I were with this girl.
I also believe getting a girl to slow the hell down and at least "pretend" to want to engage in something sensual and loving rather than the rapid fire mechanics of it tends to get them hotter and hornier as well. Frankly, I have never needed to keep a tube of lube handy like this couple did except for when I deflowered a nervous but eager little 23 y.o.. about two years ago. But I can see that this girl is so focused and worried about launching into the mechanics of trying to make him cum that she physically would not be in the mood or ready to be penetrated after pouncing on his dick and just pumping it like that.
I do quite like the post-fuck kissing and nuzzling she engaged in here. However, again, nice as it is afterwards, it is even better imo when that kind of slow and sensual behavior is done earlier, to get things started and especially during any oral foreplay activities. But it seems she couldn't be bothered to address his dick with those slow, sensual and meaningful kisses during the oral foreplay phase or just didn't think of it. That is where us reminding them to think of it at the right time is useful. LOL.
I notice she made the classic Thai girl mistake of just pouncing on his dick and pumping it for pre-fuck oral foreplay as though she was trying to make him cum that way quickly instead of doing it to make him hornier or harder for fucking. There was an utter lack of sensuality about it, just pumping, zero attention to his balls, no slow and sensual kissing and licking along the sides or anything other than dick in mouth with hand wrapped around it and start pumping. Honestly, it didn't look like that was making him hornier or harder either. I would need to fix that problem if I were with this girl.
I also believe getting a girl to slow the hell down and at least "pretend" to want to engage in something sensual and loving rather than the rapid fire mechanics of it tends to get them hotter and hornier as well. Frankly, I have never needed to keep a tube of lube handy like this couple did except for when I deflowered a nervous but eager little 23 y.o.. about two years ago. But I can see that this girl is so focused and worried about launching into the mechanics of trying to make him cum that she physically would not be in the mood or ready to be penetrated after pouncing on his dick and just pumping it like that.
I do quite like the post-fuck kissing and nuzzling she engaged in here. However, again, nice as it is afterwards, it is even better imo when that kind of slow and sensual behavior is done earlier, to get things started and especially during any oral foreplay activities. But it seems she couldn't be bothered to address his dick with those slow, sensual and meaningful kisses during the oral foreplay phase or just didn't think of it. That is where us reminding them to think of it at the right time is useful. LOL.Yes, I would be quite meh with a session like that. Certainly wouldn't be worth the prices dudes are paying at the Lord to me. Very pedestrian. I prefer a far nastier gal. I want a gal to pull my pecker out when we enter the room, drop to her knees and get started. Eye contact during the BJ with that wanton look. Love to then just pick 'em up, pull their pants down, bend them over and bury my face into them. That's my idea of a GFE/PSE. None of this, "oh don't touch me till I shower" and all that. I want to get to it a bit. Then a shower is ok.
This is my expectation no matter how good looking the gal is. And especially if I was paying close to 200 USD. In fact, for that price I'd expect a monster skill set as well. A gal who could bring me close to orgasm a few times, then back it down a few times before I shoot. Seems very few gals here work on their skills. Had two regulars that always had a new trick every time I was with them. That was great. Alas, they are gone. Most of these gals are still sub-50 USD pops in my book. Amazed that guys don't expect more, especially considering what they are spending. As one dude said here and I agree, "I'd rather have a great meal and then head home for a wank."
Christian G
10-29-17, 10:37
. Amazed that guys don't expect more, especially considering what they are spending. Because many guys coming in Thailand for 2 weeks holiday, live all year in a sex-prison country where all the P4 P cost alot of money or they spend all year wanking on the live webcam. So when they arrive in Thailand, they are happy with very low standard service.
Because many guys coming in Thailand for 2 weeks holiday, live all year in a sex-prison country where all the P4 P cost alot of money or they spend all year wanking on the live webcam. So when they arrive in Thailand, they are happy with very low standard service.I never really was; even on my first trip. In fact, I was disappointed with the performance of most of the gals. Paled in comparison to every one of my GFs in the US. But, it was the amazing availability and the ridiculously cheap cost that hooked me. Gals for 12.50 USD to 25 USD. At that price I was not so concerned with performance. But at today's prices, I expect more.
{snip} Found that funny since she had probably been pounded by over a kilometer of pecker over the past year. {snip}ROFLMFAO.
I thought this was so funny that I actually did the math. But "a kilometer of pecker" works out to be more than 17 times per day, 365 days per year.
I'm going to use this line sometime, tho. Hope you don't mind!
I notice she made the classic Thai girl mistake of just pouncing on his dick and pumping it for pre-fuck oral foreplay as though she was trying to make him cum that way quickly instead of doing it to make him hornier or harder for fucking. There was an utter lack of sensuality about it, just pumping, zero attention to his balls, no slow and sensual kissing and licking along the sides or anything other than dick in mouth with hand wrapped around it and start pumping. Honestly, it didn't look like that was making him hornier or harder either. I would need to fix that problem if I were with this girl.
I also believe getting a girl to slow the hell down and at least "pretend" to want to engage in something sensual and loving rather than the rapid fire mechanics of it tends to get them hotter and hornier as well. Frankly, I have never needed to keep a tube of lube handy like this couple did except for when I deflowered a nervous but eager little 23 y.o.. about two years ago. But I can see that this girl is so focused and worried about launching into the mechanics of trying to make him cum that she physically would not be in the mood or ready to be penetrated after pouncing on his dick and just pumping it like that.
I do quite like the post-fuck kissing and nuzzling she engaged in here. However, again, nice as it is afterwards, it is even better imo when that kind of slow and sensual behavior is done earlier, to get things started and especially during any oral foreplay activities. But it seems she couldn't be bothered to address his dick with those slow, sensual and meaningful kisses during the oral foreplay phase or just didn't think of it. That is where us reminding them to think of it at the right time is useful. LOL.Ha ha. I think this is a really fun / funny subject, even if a little off thread topic. LOL I found the movie very boring so tended to jump forward to get to the end quicker. All Thai porn is pretty crap and I don't like Japanese stuff either (a little bit warped for me).
He got fuck all DFK. A little Thai peck or nuzzle. Maybe I did not watch to the end. I need DFK up front. The hand job looked crap. One reason I just don't take hand on dick hardly at all this 90%+ of Thai girls have no clue about it and need training.
At least he got some sort of BBBJ. Was not the fastest action BBBJ I ever saw so I give her some points for that. Some Thai girls don't really expect to give BBBJ at all, or bomb out after a very short time with jaw ache (like this girl's BJ did not last that long). I presume no DATY is normal for Thai men.
We take into account this is a porno movie and not totally representative of the average Thai couple. Girl has big tits and guy probably is bigger than average for Thai (guessing since I have not really seen much Thai cock other than pornos). Is it realistic the Thai boy is underneath for the duration? I don't know. I thought that might be more prevalent for old Farangs to be honest, especially if rather fat. It does burn energy to take a doggy if carrying large weight.
The guy cums in just under 4 minutes. LOL This is not me. Even BB I am not so sensitive, not so excited as to cum that quick. Maybe if sex starved for 2 months. LOL Even my shortest sex sessions go for 40 minutes, with at least 20 minutes of actually dick in pussy fucking sometimes much longer. For ST Hotel, even if have only 1 hour, I use it fully. 5 minutes showering, 10 to 15 minutes DATY sometimes 25 minutes for unusual girls, then BBBJ rarely more than 5 minutes and fucking in lots of positions. Fortunately my ST Hotel usually gives me 90 ins to 2 hours, since I attend on less busy nights. I am reminded of the Japanese joke of 3, 4, 5. (3 inches, 4 mins, 5K) Does anyone get their money's worth with a 4 minute fuck.
I sometimes require multiple bouts of sex with only short gaps to cum, and my girls have to have stamina.
There is little doubt that the very experienced well trained Thai girls can perform much better than this, and they do. My Shark girl has the big tits as well as giving fairly good DFK (limited by braces maybe just slightly) and a better BBBJ including brushing the big tits against my balls during the BJ, which really works for me (I must admit I trained her to do this. It is not natural instinct). However good girls learn what the customer likes very quickly and hone in on it.
Uber slutty girls with dirty minds are one of life's true joys. I've always said, "I like the girl next door if I am living next to a brothel."
If customers were more demanding and would voice displeasure to the provider and management, we might see a change. I am not holding my breath.I like girls to be well behaved outside the bedroom. I am not keen for them to look like obvious hookers and I certainly would not be keen to walk around with LBs too much. Yok of Tulip was a good example of a girl in the old days who could dress very normally conservative outside the shop, so did not look so tarty, if fact hardly looked even slightly sexy in conservative dress even with a good body in those days.
Other day the police visited the room across the hallway from my apartment. As I went past the door was open so I could see a reasonable looking girl inside. Seems the management had called the police, to visit a new tenant. Makes me wonder if we have a working girl or two and they having been having weird men arrive on occasions. I don't leave my room that frequently so probably would not have known anything was going on, unless I spotted strange older Thai guys arriving on various occasions. At same time there were two strange Thai men hanging in courtyard below. No idea if they were boyfriends, pimps, customers, police detectives, or what. All wild supposition. I don't really know if there is hooking going on at all. Just can't think what other problem would cause the management to call the police. LOL Maybe I lack imagination. Could be drugs related, for all I know. That would be a common problem in Thailand.
Never seen a police visit ever before.
The Thai soaps depict gals that are very pretty but at the same time are a bit frigid. They also dress very conservatively. If a gal is the least bit erotic or sexual, she is "bad." They all strive to be pretty and cold. Yes that is pretty right. Couple that with some girls very inexperienced and particularly inexperienced with Farang ways, and you have a such a lot of disaster girls. Yet I could swear that Soapy girls were performing vastly better 15 and 20 years ago. I don't know what went wrong, other than a lot of surgeries. I must have been easier to please and I did have a good mamasan at CP2 who could give me comments about which of the girls I fancied, might be good fun. Even picked up a couple of short term GFs from there. One girl from that era I am still in contact with. She lives in Chaingmai. Maybe coming up to 35 YO now but still looks okay.
Soapy girls seem to mostly want quick fuck guys, no DFK, some even refusing DATY, bit of a BJ if you are lucky although some so bad at it that you ask her to stop it. A lot of bad figures covered up and hard to see that with girls seated. Wasn't that way in the old times. To be fair The Lord maybe a better standard. I have only a sample of 1 to date. She was good enough looking and good body but service was average to weak. Definitely no repeat. How to strike lucky in there, I don't know.
Annies may have a lot of old ugly girls, but at least in my experience most make a pretty good effort for the service, e.g. Aor 24 (not an ugly one by any means and sexy model type she was)
Yes that is pretty right. Couple that with some girls very inexperienced and particularly inexperienced with Farang ways, and you have a such a lot of disaster girls. Yet I could swear that Soapy girls were performing vastly better 15 and 20 years ago. I don't know what went wrong, other than a lot of surgeries. I must have been easier to please and I did have a good mamasan at CP2 who could give me comments about which of the girls I fancied, might be good fun. Even picked up a couple of short term GFs from there. One girl from that era I am still in contact with. She lives in Chaingmai. Maybe coming up to 35 YO now but still looks okay.
Soapy girls seem to mostly want quick fuck guys, no DFK, some even refusing DATY, bit of a BJ if you are lucky although some so bad at it that you ask her to stop it. Wasn't that way in the old times.Absolutely. 18 years ago when I moved here a soapy was a true experience. From the time you entered the room till you left. CP2 was amazing. That's where I had my first soapy in '99.
Absolutely. 18 years ago when I moved here a soapy was a true experience. From the time you entered the room till you left. CP2 was amazing. That's where I had my first soapy in '99.That would have been about the year I picked a part time GF out of there which lasted about 4 years, and caused me to not monger too much for those 4 years. Obviously I couldn't use CP2 any more after that. Unfortunate because there was a girl I really fancied (even though not skinny) called Gay and never got to try because she was a close friend of my very jealous GF at the time. Bad luck although I did return to CP2 after the 4 years. It was still alright then for another 2 years maybe. After the Thaksin era sweep out of all the TaiYai (ThaiYai) girls, and girls of dubious age, it started to go downhill rapidly. I suppose that was well before 2005 can't recall the exact year of the sweep out. I see he became PM in 2001 so can't have been too long after that the sweep out came, and the big decline started. I recall that bars were asked to close earlier as well for a while. Nataree was missed by the big cleanout presumably due to high up influence. I decided to try some Oilies probably as late as 2007. Ha ha funny that.
That would have been about the year I picked a part time GF out of there which lasted about 4 years, and caused me to not monger too much for those 4 years. Obviously I couldn't use CP2 any more after that. Unfortunate because there was a girl I really fancied (even though not skinny) called Gay and never got to try because she was a close friend of my very jealous GF at the time. Bad luck although I did return to CP2 after the 4 years. It was still alright then for another 2 years maybe. After the Thaksin era sweep out of all the TaiYai (ThaiYai) girls, and girls of dubious age, it started to go downhill rapidly. I suppose that was well before 2005 can't recall the exact year of the sweep out. I see he became PM in 2001 so can't have been too long after that the sweep out came, and the big decline started. I recall that bars were asked to close earlier as well for a while. Nataree was missed by the big cleanout presumably due to high up influence. I decided to try some Oilies probably as late as 2007. Ha ha funny that.Yes, the social order crack down that began in earnest in '02 was the start of the decline for soapies, some FL places, and GoGos. PSE Oilies peaked about '10 or so. After the appearance of coyote or agency girls the GoGo scene was pretty much over. At least for me. Can't think of one aspect of the BKK P4 P scene that has improved since the floods of '11, which seemed to have a very big effect on the FL scene. Since '14 it's really gone downhill. Suk is just a mess these days. Just a horrible demographic roaming the streets. Can't blame the gals for not wanting to be out.
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At least he got some sort of BBBJ. Was not the fastest action BBBJ I ever saw so I give her some points for that. Some Thai girls don't really expect to give BBBJ at all, or bomb out after a very short time with jaw ache (like this girl's BJ did not last that long). I presume no DATY is normal for Thai men.
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Yes, we must presume there was no DATY before the clip began because she was still wearing panties. He could have pulled them aside, but, probably not. So, zero DATY for her. Then I suppose it is possible he told her before the clip began something like, "Honey, whatever you do, don't you dare touch my balls with your hands, fingers, lips, tongue or anything else. I hate that. Oh, and don't even think of kissing or licking down the sides of my shaft. And you know how I like everything done to my dick fast and unsensual? That's how we're doing it this time, too. Where's the lube?"
Seriously, though, I suspect there is still the old problem of "Face" at play in these matters. Are so many Thai girls really incapable of treating a dick with their mouth and hands as though they aren't in a hurry to get this horrible experience over with ASAP? Absolutely not. But if they take their time, appear to relish the moment and the contact, go about it slowly, sensually and as though they are in no hurry to fulfill this unfortunate requirement and move on, they run the risk of us thinking they might actually enjoy the feel, smell and taste of cock. And how does that fit in with their constant worry about saving "Face"?
When it comes to DATY, the most common reaction I get from Thai girls is they can't believe any man would WANT to "subjugate" himself to do such a thing. They see it as a decision to subjugate oneself for the sake of another rather than simply giving a gift of pleasure to another. And they can't imagine how someone could squeeze out any pleasure of their own by doing it for another person.
There is a local shop girl I dated for a while. Not P4P. I loved DATY for this girl, did it every time we were alone together. She was a bit uncomfortable about it at first but when she grew more comfortable and I learned all the right moves, angles and buttons to push (very hidden and tricky with this girl) to give her the orgasms of her life that way, she totally loved it. She missed it when we weren't together. She sent me multiple "I Love You" Line stickers and messages daily with allusions to it and about wanting more of it tonight or tomorrow. And I think she really did feel warm and cuddly love feelings for me overall. But this was one of those girls who was great to DATY and fuck but was a total washout when it came to BBBJ, even as mere oral foreplay. The closest I got to any oral contact from her was once or twice some very tentative licking around the edges during 69. But I am not a big fan of 69 for the sake of my pleasure. For her pleasure I was happy to oblige. But for me 69 goes nowhere. I would never be able to finish that way because, among other things, it is essentially upside down from where I need a tongue to be for me to finish orally.
Naturally, her lack of even remotely equal reciprocation became an issue in our relationship. I needed her to concentrate orally on my pleasure to a decent finish every now and then just as I had dozens and dozens of times over a couple of years concentrated orally on her pleasure to a much, much more than decent finish. When I broached the subject with her quite directly, she said she is fine with it during 69 but no other way. Said she really, really wanted to do that for me but was "shy" and worried about not being very good at it. Hmm. Also, her truly puzzled response was, "Why would I want to do that for you if I wasn't also being pleasured?"
Crocodilexp
10-30-17, 03:31
ROFLMFAO.
I thought this was so funny that I actually did the math. But "a kilometer of pecker" works out to be more than 17 times per day, 365 days per year.Apparently, you only counted the length of each dick. Better to count every thrust as mileage, since we do it with cars (all that commuting to work and back adds up, it's not just one 10 km trip). In that case "kilometer of a pecker" can be achieved in a month or so by an average hooker.
Apparently, you only counted the length of each dick. Better to count every thrust as mileage, since we do it with cars (all that commuting to work and back adds up, it's not just one 10 km trip). In that case "kilometer of a pecker" can be achieved in a month or so by an average hooker.Yes, not counting per stroke. Maybe if not counting per stroke we could have a "meters of penis" standard. Every 50 mtrs equals one olympic. That would be the length of an olympic swimming pool. We can talk in olympics of penis.
Yes, not counting per stroke. Maybe if not counting per stroke we could have a "meters of penis" standard. Every 50 mtrs equals one olympic. That would be the length of an olympic swimming pool. We can talk in olympics of penis.This reminds me of the much superior "cost per stroke" metric I introduced more than 13 years ago on another website. To quote a portion of that ground-breaking report, which admittedly is a bit off topic given it pertained to a budget casa in Sao Paulo: "In and out, in and out, with each stroke I could feel pennies of my wealth dissipating (I estimate that over the course of the hour, I may have had 300 or 400 strokes; that works out to about 3 cents a stroke, at today's exchange rate of 1 real = US $0. 33)."
The good old days.
LoveHole69
10-30-17, 15:08
It sounds like there is no sign of improvement.
The last time I went to Tulip it was horrible. If golf is being cited as one of the better ones that's a sad state of affairs.
It seems like there is to much nostalgia I got over that and left Thailand it used to be great for availability looks and price and good service. I also prefer the Chinese look tall girls or Japaneses are also cuter than Thai. I have had some great service with Chinese hookers so with the main advantage of Thailand being availability and price now gone I am thinking of an alternative base for my trip does anyone have any experience with Vietnam? As I should think the prices are good and I think Viet girls generally look better than Thai anyway.
LoveHole69
10-30-17, 15:24
Igzca it was maybe you but I read a post or posts years ago about run getting rather loose and staining people and the sheets brown.
Unfortunately I never got to try my size on her but seems she would handle anything well despite being small. The best I had for that was Yok very accommodating and strong endurance she could take on a whole team but for mongers who are not large sized I would imagine it might be like dipping in a pool.
Dextro sol did you say run jumped on you bareback? Did you catch anything as she was always giving snow white customers the clap.
Now that she is retired in Phuket with an American I wonder if she exclusively stains his sheets.
Crocodilexp
10-31-17, 02:20
I have had some great service with Chinese hookersWhere? I haven't been to PRC, but had plenty of Chinese hookers (including PRC) all over SE Asia, and good performers are few and far between. I do like the Chinese MILF look, though.
does anyone have any experience with Vietnam? As I should think the prices are good and I think Viet girls generally look better than Thai anywayAttitudes in Vietnam are atrocious, to the point that not even cheap mongering is worthwhile (at least HCMC, I hear Hanoi is worse). Oddly enough, I had occasional decent experiences with Vietnamese hookers in other places (Laos, Malaysia), but not even a single memorable one Vietnam itself, and it's not for the lack of trying. Attitude-wise, my top 20% of experiences in Vietnam are on par with bottom 20% in Thailand.
Crocodilexp
10-31-17, 02:43
Can't think of one aspect of the BKK P4 P scene that has improved since the floods of '11, which seemed to have a very big effect on the FL scene. Since '14 it's really gone downhill. Suk is just a mess these days. Just a horrible demographic roaming the streets. Can't blame the gals for not wanting to be out.Indeed, the Suk FL scene went downhill fast, I miss that the most. Back before 2010, there have been hundreds of decent FL streetwalkers on any given night, easy to get 2 pops for 1000 baht, and they were generally pleasant. Plenty of normal girls too, part-timers. The few dozen dregs out there these days are downright terrifying, and on rare occasion that I managed to find a non-repulsive one, service has been decidedly underwhelming.
Unfortunately, it's not only Thailand, I can't think of many places worldwide that have improved for mongering over the last 5 years. Budapest is far worse, Jakarta is still OK but worse, Singapore is worse, Phnom Penh is obviously worse. Only Vientiane has improved (or at least I discovered a dozen brothels I wasn't aware of before). Do any experienced mongers here know of other scenes that got better lately?
LadyMontbarron
11-01-17, 15:45
Just visited Ratchadapisek early last week and stopped by The Lord. They only had few girls at the time and the price was too high, around 8000 baht (modaf*kn ripoff). The girls looked okay, nothing special so I moved on to Alaina. I picked 1 girl, 2000 baht for 1 HR 30 min. The room was small, they didn't have large bath tub and it's kinda dirty, unlike my previous experiences at other parlors. The service was okay, the girl had dark skin and spoke little English. We showered together and she gave me some little massage, I didn't enjoy myself much so I just had a quick sex with her and gave her some tip then leaved. The mamasan gave me her number, promised there will be more beautiful girls next time but I'm not sure I'll go to that place again. I'll come back to Bangkok at the end of the year so anyone can give me some recommendation? Also are Ocean Massage and Colonze 2 the same place? Maybe I'm going to check out LE Madame, Emmanuelle and Caesar's, and some girls on the Smooci app too.
Just visited Ratchadapisek early last week and stopped by The Lord. They only had few girls at the time and the price was too high, around 8000 baht (modaf*kn ripoff). The girls looked okay, nothing special so I moved on to Alaina. I picked 1 girl, 2000 baht for 1 HR 30 min. The room was small, they didn't have large bath tub and it's kinda dirty, unlike my previous experiences at other parlors. The service was okay, the girl had dark skin and spoke little English. We showered together and she gave me some little massage, I didn't enjoy myself much so I just had a quick sex with her and gave her some tip then leaved. The mamasan gave me her number, promised there will be more beautiful girls next time but I'm not sure I'll go to that place again. I'll come back to Bangkok at the end of the year so anyone can give me some recommendation? Also are Ocean Massage and Colonze 2 the same place? Maybe I'm going to check out LE Madame, Emmanuelle and Caesar's, and some girls on the Smooci app too.Ocean is the old Colonze 2, yes. Emmanuelle has merged with Amsterdam and so boosted the quality of girl selections, considerably.
In any place girls are not guaranteed to be any good. I would suggest try for value Ocean, Meree, Evita, Merci (Maxi). See if you get lucky. In higher price bracket have Emmanuelle.
Years ago I went to Caesar's and found it was mostly for Asians with attempts to gouge about double the price for Farangs. Other places have a more reasonable Farang surcharge that is fixed, and not at discretion of how much the papasan thinks can be ripped off.
My last visit to Emmanuelle I had a stunning slim girl that was hopeless for experience and skills and general cooperation. Shit bad luck happens.
I went to Cherry massage Tues night. I was hoping to meet Yok, but was told she is no longer in Bangkok. My back up was Kiwi. Kiwi's pic on the website are dated, she's a little bigger now. Cut to the chase: I was a little leery about my selection, but once we got going, she did not disappoint. Despite her larger size, Kiwi is a performer. (Me too, LOL.) She has great BJ skills. She got into the session, which had lots moaning from her and DFK. Lots of positions and A+ too. Because of her bigger size, she can take a pounding. Kiwi probably isn't for most here, But I had a great time with her.
PhilAndererer
11-02-17, 15:48
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?No no. Definetly avoid the pattaya ones. Tourist traps and the most mechanical girls.
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?It's very much a matter of opinion. I have struggled to get really good Soapy experiences in recent times at Ratchada, because I am a big Farang maybe, or more demanding for GFE, fun, and extended sex. My girls tried at Annies and Chrome bar performed way better (only a few are good enough looking). I had a really good girl at Evita (not in Ratchada). I also had a reasonable girl in Ocean. I had a soso girl at the Lord (the extra price did not convert to extra good time).
Many guys hate bars, but I just happen to be able to have fun there and get really good girls sometimes, while wasting some money of drinks and BF. Just have to be prepared to move on if the right type of girl I not there. I can't say why but my success rate with girls I want to repeat seems highest at the bars. This is partly form being able to sit with them and chat for a while to gauge how well we might get on. It is partly from being able to see that girl's body properly to know she is really hot for my taste. It is partly from being able to select girls experienced with Farangs and preferring Farangs. These things help me to cut down the mistakes. Mostly I have not been choosing girls in a big rush on the first meeting. This also reduces errors.
Best performing porn stars should be in places like Tulip and Snow White, etc. but struggle to find a pretty girl there.
It is best to try everything and multiple times. Cannot judge any place fairly by a single bad experience. Can only judge the particular girl.
I went to Cherry massage Tues night. I was hoping to meet Yok, but was told she is no longer in Bangkok. My back up was Kiwi. Kiwi's pic on the website are dated, she's a little bigger now. Cut to the chase: I was a little leery about my selection, but once we got going, she did not disappoint. Despite her larger size, Kiwi is a performer. (Me too, LOL.) She has great BJ skills. She got into the session, which had lots moaning from her and DFK. Lots of positions and A+ too. Because of her bigger size, she can take a pounding. Kiwi probably isn't for most here, But I had a great time with her.I've looked up lady Kiwi's picture at the Cherry Massage website, and one thing I like about her is her big natural tits. I think she has bigger tits than any other lady there. And she is natural too. Which makes her good to suck, while you are at it with her.
http://cherrymassagebkk.com/massage-ladies/
And now that lady Kiwi has gained some weight, I can only imagine how big and how full she is in the boob department.
Also, having the lady get into the session with you makes all the difference. Because when the lady obviously enjoys what you are doing with her, then this gives you confidence and enables you to perform well with her.
This is what the lady's personality is all about. It's when one way or another the lady gives you confidence with her, rather than robs you of it. And of course, confidence is a two-way street. You need to play your part and give the lady some confidence too.
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?I've spent some time in Pattaya and visited some massage places there a few years ago.
I actually liked it better than Bangkok. And it wasn't so much about the massage places, as it was about the pollution, the traffic, and the long travel distances in Bangkok. Everything was better in Pattaya in this regard.
It's hard to be in the mood to do some hot lady good, when you are surrounded by heavy traffic and breathing in all the pollution.
Bangkok places are also more likely to rip you off in terms of money, than places in Pattaya. You need to be more careful in this regard in Bangkok than in Pattaya.
But I have to admit that Bangkok has more ladies and more massage places to choose from, than Pattaya. In this regard, Bangkok is better.
One of the massage ladies, I liked in Pattaya, actually came from Bangkok. That's what she told me. Which means that there is some travel between Bangkok and Pattaya. They aren't isolated from each other in terms of their ladies.
PhilAndererer
11-03-17, 18:46
This is my first visit to Thailand. I am Staying in Bangkok for 4 days near Soi Cowboy as well as in Pattaya and Phuket for a few more days. Heard that Ratchadapisek road in Bangkok is a hub for many soapy massage parlors. Is it worth visiting this place for the sole purpose of getting a better soapy massage there instead of places around Soi Cowboy? Or should I try these kind of massages in Pattaya for better experience?After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me.
1. Are soapies and nuru massages different from one another (in theory it might be different, but in practical terms)? Do I need to take both?
2. Can you suggest one good soapy and nuru massage establishment in Bangkok and Pattaya? I know that the girls and GFEs are subjective things, but suggest better establishments in terms of no ripoffs and customer friendly ones.
Thanks.
After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me.
1. Are soapies and nuru massages different from one another (in theory it might be different, but in practical terms)? Do I need to take both?
2. Can you suggest one good soapy and nuru massage establishment in Bangkok and Pattaya? I know that the girls and GFEs are subjective things, but suggest better establishments in terms of no ripoffs and customer friendly ones.
Thanks.It is unwise assumption that Soapies will not work for you. Some guys love it, and I used to use for many years up to dropping off 5 years ago (very few recent great experiences. My I am not normal). There are budget priced soapies, such as Ocean, Merci, Evita, Meree, Catherine, Nancy etc. Annies is designated as a Soapy, but I put it in a special category, since it fails to match many characteristics of a Soapy, particularly for not having plenty of time to watch the girls before choosing, and also due to very small low standard rooms with very cramped space for body slide.
For Nuru I suggest check if Chrome Bar has any girls that appeal (may not). Some guys don't like the setup but I found it okay I have had 2 or 3 good girls in there (of the slim variety) but not recently.
After reading your suggestions, I find that it is not wise to spend the money in soapies as they are relatively expensive with no good experience. But in my place it is not possible to find such establishments, so it is a must-to-do thing for me....I'd say that your experience with the lady often depends on you being ready. It's not just about the lady and the establishment.
This was especially true for me, when I first started coming to Thailand. I wasn't used at all to lay my eyes on a sexy girl and 10 minutes later have her undress with me in the private room, expecting me to take her with my cock. This worked well for me as a fantasy. But in reality, this was too fast for me. I found this experience overwhelming and a little hard to enjoy.
I often didn't enjoy my first experience with the lady I liked. But then I would go back to my hotel room, masturbate about this lady and make myself ready to do her again the next day. And my second time with her was usually a lot more pleasant than the first. It's like on the first day, I wasn't ready for her, but on the second day I was.
There is such a thing as being too fast, even for a guy, especially when you aren't used to it. And a good way to get around this problem is to give yourself some time to think about the lady, fantasize and masturbate about her, and only then go to do her.
When you go to a massage place, then you can just look at the ladies there and come back later. There is no requirement that you take out some lady right away. You can just make a mental note about 2 or 3 ladies you like, fantasize about them for a while, and then come back. And I say 2 or 3 ladies, because not all of them might be there, when you come back. You need to make yourself ready to do any one of them.
I'd say that your experience can vary so much from one lady to another, even within the same establishment, that you should go for ladies, rather than for the establishment. And ladies come and go. There is no guarantee that a lady I've seen 6 months ago will still be there. And she might not even be the lady you like. Different guys like different ladies.
I think the only reliable way to find a lady you like is to chose your ladies on your own and see how it goes. And you shouldn't be especially disappointed if sometimes your experience doesn't work out well. People don't always click together. This is a normal part of meeting multiple ladies, whom you don't know well.
Some people look at this as doing business only. But I think this view is mistaken, especially in Thailand. It's doing business alright. But it's more than that. It's also meeting real women, who are individuals and people.
It's normal to develop some feelings of intimacy and liking. That's what the GFE experience is all about. It's not just acting. Quite often it's real, real enough for some guys to marry the Thai lady they like. This doesn't happen every day. But it does happen once in a while.
It's good to be back! I arrived on Saturday, horrendous queues at immigration but flew business class so got fast track through, thank glod.
I went to Mitu's latest shop around 6 pm Saturday. If you don't count the LB shop this must be their 3rd premises on 33 but easy to find. There were 6 ladies to choose from and I picked Becky. I was surprised that the photos on the website are the same on the tablet in the shop you are given to choose from. No face picture on the website, same on shop menu.
Anyway, I was not disappointed by Becky. About 4'10", cute face though a couple of squint teeth, nice body. Really nice be cup breasts, just the right handful and naturally firm. She has worked their for two weeks. There was no massage, just straight into it for two pops. She's a good lady, more GFE than PSE. I had a good time with her.
Mitu is probably the most expensive place you will get around upper Suk but they always have delivered good quality for me. No complaints.
I wasn't sure of what I was in the mood for today; crazy PSE at Eden or Snowhite, reliable selection at Angels or take my chances at "regular" oily and see what happens. I flipped all these options walking down Soi 20 and decided on the middle ground of all that and Akane Soi 33.
Usual script on entering. Directed to couches on the left, welcome soft drink and presented with the menu. I went with the Fashion 3 P - 90 mins with 2nd lady for last 30 minutes "lip service". Last time I had this course at Akane the 2nd lady was a bit of a boiler in street clothes but she is there to blow you with the 1st lady naked beside you. Other people have said this is not the norm though.
I was given a line up of 5 ladies and chose the youngest of them, Kou. She was a bit pum pui but looked like a great pair of tits for a body slide and not unattractive. Usual Akane script in the room; shower, stool with the channel, cleaned scrupulously everywhere, gel massage, etc. The massage was pretty lame and we didn't get the flip till the 2nd lady arrived. Kou had got naked by this point and Lady 2 was in her bra and pants. Standard script resumed; ass in air, rimming, now the body slide with those great tits, reach round HJ. On to my back; more body slide, CBJ from lady 2, prostate massage, play with Kou's tits and pussy all this time, VERY happy ending.
I might well go back to repeat with Kou but in one of the VIP rooms. I would like to get 1-on-1 with her and see how it goes. As per the standard of ladies in Akane, not the prettiest you will find working around Soi 33, but there is potential there.
I'd say that your experience with the lady often depends on you being ready. It's not just about the lady and the establishment.
This was especially true for me, when I first started coming to Thailand. I wasn't used at all to lay my eyes on a sexy girl and 10 minutes later have her undress with me in the private room, expecting me to take her with my cock. This worked well for me as a fantasy. But in reality, this was too fast for me. I found this experience overwhelming and a little hard to enjoy.
I often didn't enjoy my first experience with the lady I liked. But then I would go back to my hotel room, masturbate about this lady and make myself ready to do her again the next day. And my second time with her was usually a lot more pleasant than the first. It's like on the first day, I wasn't ready for her, but on the second day I was.
For you Dan maybe, but you are unique. I don't think you can assume others will be similar at all. I seriously doubt that the vast majority of us, are not "ready" to fuck a beautiful naked girl if she is hot, willing and assisting. In soapies it can be all too frustrating that the lady takes sooo looong in the bath with the cleaning procedure to waste a large part of the session time.
I might not be ready in terms of a great hard on, if there is no kissing, no BJ, and the girl is stiff legged and scared, or if her body is a disaster area, or there is not touching allowed. However if the girl is hot sexy and GFE from the get go, most of us are very ready very quickly. In fact fucking the girl in the bath or on a body slide mat has been known to happen, when we just can't wait.
Most of us had prior P4P experience before Thailand, so are not shy or scared of the lady in the slightest. Can't get to her pussy fast enough. Maybe your "not ready" is really the fear that you will pop too fast. I am opposite and never have that problem at all.
Your comment "Very hard to do a lady" because of pollution in the city. That was also a really weird comment. I may struggle to pop if get too hot or stuffy when air con doesn't work properly, however never notice pollution of Bangkok at time of a fuck. It is just not relevant. We don't have vehicle exhausts going direct into the MP.
The one thing that you wrote, that made some sense, is that not all fantasies are suitable for reality. It is not necessary to live them all. e.g. I like nude girls so much, that I would prefer to ask all the girls in the MP line up to get undressed naked before I choose the girl, however it is just not going to happen. LOL I would love to have some MPs where, the full line up are naked all the time, however have to make do with skimpy outfits. Fucking a girl in the bar in public is one thing I tried at Star of Light. It was not so great in reality, mainly because the girl expected me to finish relatively quick, like giving me only 10 minutes or less. That is not very satisfactory to a guy who likes 1 hour sex minimum. LOL Two or three girls sex parties was something that worked out very well with the right girls, so did that many times. So fantasies can be workable if all parties can have their requirements met.
I went to Snowhite about 6:30 pm, four ladies to choose from. I picked the prettiest who turned out to be Audi. I was happy with that as she has good reports on hers IIRC. She has a very pretty face and a nice cleavage but when in the room and she undressed, boy, she has been ravaged by childbirth. 10 out of 10 to the bra designers; they are mega defalted when unsuported and her belly is, well, ravaged.
In the shower, as previously reported, she is right down to business with BBBJ deep throat. Out of the shower, more of the same on the bed then condom and no holes barred. She is a trooper right enough and excellent BJ skills but front and backdoor are loose; "like throwing a sausage in a train tunnel".
This is a pretty negative report but she does work hard at it so I feel a bit guilty with the negativity. I wanted to try Snowhite, I've done it now; scratch that one off the bucket list. If Audi is one of the stars then I will pass on a repeat.
Dextro Sol
11-06-17, 18:25
Igzca it was maybe you but I read a post or posts years ago about run getting rather loose and staining people and the sheets brown.
Unfortunately I never got to try my size on her but seems she would handle anything well despite being small. The best I had for that was Yok very accommodating and strong endurance she could take on a whole team but for mongers who are not large sized I would imagine it might be like dipping in a pool.
Dextro sol did you say run jumped on you bareback? Did you catch anything as she was always giving snow white customers the clap.
Now that she is retired in Phuket with an American I wonder if she exclusively stains his sheets.Yes, she literally raped me in the room. As I remember she tored off my clothes and pushed me on my back on the bed and jumped right up on me. I had no time to react and there we were, fucking like rabbits bareback. Fortunately I didn't catch anything, but I have read later she had to leave work for curing different illnesses from time to time.
I went to Snowhite about 6:30 pm, four ladies to choose from. I picked the prettiest who turned out to be Audi. I was happy with that as she has good reports on hers IIRC. She has a very pretty face and a nice cleavage but when in the room and she undressed, boy, she has been ravaged by childbirth. 10 out of 10 to the bra designers; they are mega defalted when unsuported and her belly is, well, ravaged.
In the shower, as previously reported, she is right down to business with BBBJ deep throat. Out of the shower, more of the same on the bed then condom and no holes barred. She is a trooper right enough and excellent BJ skills but front and backdoor are loose; "like throwing a sausage in a train tunnel".
This is a pretty negative report but she does work hard at it so I feel a bit guilty with the negativity. I wanted to try Snowhite, I've done it now; scratch that one off the bucket list. If Audi is one of the stars then I will pass on a repeat.I understand these gals need to make a living, but sesh, should we really be subjected to these type of visuals? I really think the shops should screen better and gals with really damaged bodies should be steered into another line of work. Punters need to speak up. I have actually gotten to the room and called off sessions because of baby damage. They know I am not a fan at all the PSE shops and warn me ahead of time to make sure I don't select a gal who is not going to pass muster. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.
Crazy4Thai
11-07-17, 04:51
. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better.I really agree with your views on this and then I'm stopped in my tracks by your conclusion. Where are these better providers coming from? What would attract them to those shops and where are they now? My guess is that only a significant price increase would attract truly attractive talent. Just look at the other venues and what the beauties get. I know that you have said before that you would pay more to get more and I am still in agreement. I would frequent The Lord if I knew I could get everything I wanted with every provider. But I cannot so I don't. There a many tiers in this biz and unfortunately I do not think the oilies model is going to change.
I understand these gals need to make a living, but sesh, should we really be subjected to these type of visuals? I really think the shops should screen better and gals with really damaged bodies should be steered into another line of work. Punters need to speak up. I have actually gotten to the room and called off sessions because of baby damage. They know I am not a fan at all the PSE shops and warn me ahead of time to make sure I don't select a gal who is not going to pass muster. We stop taking those gals, eventually will will be offered better."sesh" LOL Maybe the spelling auto corrector mashed up "Sheesh"!
I think it would be great to have the MP shops dress the girls in extremely skimpy see through underwear. Annies has that to some extent (perhaps not see through) from memory although I did not visit recently. If the girls needed to go outside they could put on an easy on / off nurses short length tunic or smock or something similar.
In the lineup, all girls should be standing and slowly rotate the body so we see the back view as well. Not like Annies where girls stand up and sit down again too quick. In some bars we get these advantages automatically. Shark has gogo girls in see through underwear. It does not hide much but is not quite nude. I can't stand that "Coyote" girls have double layer bras, possibly with padding too. We don't want to be conned.
Girls with devastated bodies should probably be in the rub and tug shops. They obviously cannot be "models" which is virtually what a lot of us are looking for. Not just a girl with several holes. I do take mothers very often, however I expect the baby damage to be rather minor. My GF is a mother but not noticeably damaged at all. Pussy still tight (maybe from insufficient use LOL). Even her tits were never saggy. I guess she was very lucky.
In soapies it can be all too frustrating that the lady takes sooo looong in the bath with the cleaning procedure to waste a large part of the session time.Just reach for the soap start washing yourself if they are wasting time in the tub and it isn't as enjoyable as you would like. YOU are paying. It takes all about 1-2 minutes to wash yourself. They aren't going to kill you, you're the customer. But sadly, you have to take control despite the fact that you are paying. That's just the situation it is.
I really agree with your views on this and then I'm stopped in my tracks by your conclusion. Where are these better providers coming from? What would attract them to those shops and where are they now? My guess is that only a significant price increase would attract truly attractive talent. Just look at the other venues and what the beauties get. I know that you have said before that you would pay more to get more and I am still in agreement. I would frequent The Lord if I knew I could get everything I wanted with every provider. But I cannot so I don't. There a many tiers in this biz and unfortunately I do not think the oilies model is going to change.Perhaps the oilies will just die out. Right now it seems only a few gals at each shop are busy. Why? Because each shop only has a few lookers that perform. Maybe there just are no really good looking gals that are willing to put on PSE performance at any price. From the reports I read about The Lord, most guys seems satisfied to pay that money for a looker that does not really perform or gives what I would consider a "sort of GFE. " Guess it is about being able to tell your friends that you stuck it in a looker. I think for the locals lads that is exactly what it is about. And yes, if the gals at The Lord provided PSE and multiple shots, I'd for sure partake. Unfortunately, there is not a tier with super hot gals that provide a PSE. It just doesn't exist here. Yes, there is a gal here and there, but they are rare. I'm getting to the point where I rarely partake. It's just to depressing to walk into the oilies and would be too frustrating to walk into The Lord. The oilies were far better talent wise 7 years ago. Far better. I'd go into Mango or Snow, or early Cherry and have trouble choosing. Also used to leave most sessions with my knees shaking thinking, "Wow that was amazing." Now I leave most of the time thinking, "Meh, I could have jerked off and saved 2k."
For sure we are in a very different era. Friend has a buddy who had a regular that used to work at one of the high dollar parlors then went on to be kind of a FL working with a group of other gals. Heard what she gets for private events and it is just stunning. Supposedly a very nice looking gal with a great body, but from the description nowhere near sophisticated enough to be considered a high class escort. Not so long ago big money escorts in the West had to possess a certain level of sophistication. They needed to be able to converse with the customer, had to be comfortable at a nice dinner, and of course had to be skilled in the art of seduction (how many Thai gals P4 P or civilians have you ever experienced being truly seductive?) and provide GFE or PSE. But now it seems, that you just need a pretty face, decent body, and be willing. Incredibly wealthy dudes will shower money on you. Where have the expectations from the customer gone?
I wasn't sure of what I was in the mood for today; crazy PSE at Eden or Snowhite, reliable selection at Angels or take my chances at "regular" oily and see what happens. I flipped all these options walking down Soi 20 and decided on the middle ground of all that and Akane Soi 33.
Usual script on entering. Directed to couches on the left, welcome soft drink and presented with the menu. I went with the Fashion 3 P - 90 mins with 2nd lady for last 30 minutes "lip service". Last time I had this course at Akane the 2nd lady was a bit of a boiler in street clothes but she is there to blow you with the 1st lady naked beside you. Other people have said this is not the norm though..I visit Akane when I am feeling lazy and not up for a PSE but still want some action. I usually go for the "M" lotion massage, 90 minutes with one lady or the "V-3" massage, 90 minutes and two ladies. This includes use of a clean, spacious VIP room which has a bed with plenty of room for 3, a couch and large air mattress in the shower area. I normally book Yuki for the "M" massage and use her as a primary for the "V-3. The "M" session starts with a nice slow and easy BBBJ for about 20 minutes and then on to the shower area for a through and relaxing bath while laying on the mattress. Next is a little slip and slide followed by some rimming and a little DATY if I'm in the mood and a great blow job finish. With the time left over I ask for a body scrub. With the "V-3" I skip the body scrub and try to get 2 shots, one from each lady. In over 40 visits I have always had a positive experience. Good service is mainly what I am looking for. If you are trophy hunting it is probably best to go elsewhere.
Where have the expectations from the customer gone?Does the term "Nouveau riche" make sense here ?
Just reach for the soap start washing yourself if they are wasting time in the tub and it isn't as enjoyable as you would like. YOU are paying. It takes all about 1-2 minutes to wash yourself. They aren't going to kill you, you're the customer. But sadly, you have to take control despite the fact that you are paying. That's just the situation it is.Ha ha. For sure I have stood up to get out of the bath before.
Do you really think rushing the girls is going to get you anything better on the bed though?
Guess it is about being able to tell your friends that you stuck it in a looker. I think for the locals lads that is exactly what it is about. And yes, if the gals at The Lord provided PSE and multiple shots, I'd for sure partake. I think that is wrong logic, because not all of us are looking for a PSE. I can take a girl that does anal but fail to ask for it, and also not ask for any riming, nor finger up my ass, etc. These things are just not what I am typically looking for. There is little doubt that very good looking girls do not have to be pornstars to get enough business.
There is no use telling your buddy you got a fantastic looker that performed, if don't have the photos to prove it. LOL Anyway, I am all too often reporting a fantastic looker that was actually crap on the bed. So it is no way bragging rights. Look last time I really enjoyed fucking a truly stunning P4 P girl was far too long ago. I make do with well above average girls in one sense or another for my regular repeats. I am hardly motivated to repeat below average looks.
The main point about stunning girls, is that it somehow boosts my level of horniness, excitement etc. If the girl has a crap body or a crap face, I could lose my hard on much quicker, assuming I got one. It just seems so boring to fuck a very average looking girl. Just can't be bothered. A significant part of stimulation is visual for me. I had a regular street walker girl for a while, who was a good enough fuck, and I justified to myself that I was getting better value for money, yet in the end, I could not be bothered to fuck her any more, because the face and body was not good enough. Even if big high non saggy tits boosts my excitement, I still don't take the girl if her face is too ugly. Everything has to be a reasonable standard.
At the bank today saw a girl with amazing toned legs thighs and ass in very type leotard like pants from behind firstly. Then was amazed when saw the face too. Tan colour skin but extremely cute. Very young looking of course with such a body. I did not even get around to checking her tits region at all. LOL There is no doubt she would never get a knock back if she wanted a fuck, I reckon. Plenty of other girls, I would knock back even if free. It is just too dull to fuck uglies. I don't need that no matter how cheap they are and no matter how good they are as a pornstar. In Thermae I won't go below the top 3 girls for looks. Just don't like to compromise too much. It is not like I can't move on possibly even go without for the evening. Last night was first fuck for a few days, and just was a regular reliable GFE bargirl from Shark with stamina to go at least 90 minutes for the ST. Well above average looks, but not at all stunning. I had actually intended to splurge and do first 3some in a while, but the other sexy target girl was absent. Not just any girl will do.
Different guys get turned on in different ways. You need pornstar service. Others need extra good looks as a priority. Yes I need a GFE as well, that is the problem with many Soapy girls of today.
At the bank today saw a girl with amazing toned legs thighs and ass in very type leotard like pants from behind firstly. Then was amazed when saw the face too. Tan colour skin but extremely cute. Very young looking of course with such a body. I did not even get around to checking her tits region at all. LOL There is no doubt she would never get a knock back if she wanted a fuck, I reckon.
Syzygies, may I ask why you didn't say something funny or charming in Thai to that girl and introduce yourself to her? Or did you and she just politely say Hi and nothing else?
Syzygies, may I ask why you didn't say something funny or charming in Thai to that girl and introduce yourself to her? Or did you and she just politely say Hi and nothing else?Well if she was ugly, no one would bother. I know it is very Thai to ask "where are you going?" but usually implies ulterior motives. In my country we don't suddenly accost strangers and start getting fresh, we are taught to mind own business, and not hassle strangers. In this case could have been a 16 or 17 YO for all I know. Looked very young although dressed rather to show off her amazing ass and curves. I know in Europe complete strangers are greeting each other but I never really understood why.
Personally I don't like to hassle people that have no interest in me.
Well if she was ugly, no one would bother. I know it is very Thai to ask "where are you going?" but usually implies ulterior motives. In my country we don't suddenly accost strangers and start getting fresh, we are taught to mind own business, and not hassle strangers. In this case could have been a 16 or 17 YO for all I know. Looked very young although dressed rather to show off her amazing ass and curves. I know in Europe complete strangers are greeting each other but I never really understood why.
Personally I don't like to hassle people that have no interest in me.No, I don't recommend you or anyone else hassle anyone. I was talking about simply saying something funny or charming in her language while the two of you were sharing the same space and breathing the same air in a bank. And I don't mean some crude suggestion that she drop everything and follow you to the nearest hotel room for sex. But it seems to me you are a special case. If anyone needs to take at least some moderately bold steps to weed out the delicate flowers and frightened weak sisters from the girls who are truly intrigued and open to engaging and fucking farangs among the hot girls in town and has the language skills to pull it off sooner rather than later, that would be you.
How on earth would or should a Thai girl like the one in the bank show interest in you until or unless you say something to her first? Buddy of mine is extremely ugly and looks years older than me. Yet he is constantly getting phone numbers and later dating and fucking lovely young Thai girls in their late teens or early twenties that I couldn't imagine would be up for screwing anyone more than 5-10 years their senior. You know what his winning, clever and bold opening line is? He looks at them and smiles, says, "Oh, you look so pretty. Do you speak English? Where are you from?" They say their province. "What is your name? My name is Paul." Then it just goes naturally from there. They help. That's it! lol.
The shocking thing is EVERY girl in Thailand that he has ever used those lame and creaky old opening lines on smiles broadly and responds to his attention to them. Ok, let's say your bank girl is miles and miles and miles and miles more beautiful than any girl I or this ugly old dude have ever seen. But your advantage is you are no doubt younger and better looking than him and you speak Thai fluently. Worth a try, imo.
Yet he is constantly getting phone numbers and later dating and fucking lovely young Thai girls in their late teens or early twenties that I couldn't imagine would be up for screwing anyone more than 5-10 years their senior. You know what his winning, clever and bold opening line is? He looks at them and smiles, says, "Oh, you look so pretty. Do you speak English? Where are you from?" They say their province. "What is your name? My name is Paul." Then it just goes naturally from there. They help. That's it! lol.
H ha! Hardly very special pickup lines. That would not be stretching my Thai much at all. Thai 101 covers it, the key probably is in pronunciation, where being too good might even count against me. LOL American Thai sounds really funny! I don't have that.
Any the girl would have known she was fucking hot! So I am sure she gets flirted with a real lot.
One problem is I don't want to complicate things by dating any young girls, I have GF already plus a few regular girls. If I was unattached, I might get a bit more adventurous. As it is my only requirement from other girls is sex, and even that need has been declining. I don't have any desire to take a young hot girl out on a date, although might be worthwhile if extras were forthcoming.
Gannaton48
11-08-17, 14:37
Being only very occasionally in BKK, I decided to try a bit of everythng. Here my report. Started with Thermae just because I love the system, despite previous abd experiences. And this one was not different. Being farang and not really attractive, I must rely on the girls who smile to me. The oen I went with was really slim but very beautiful face and kind. However in bed, again a cold fish. Next day I met an older lady from ThaiCupid, very nice person but language was somewhat a problem. However in bed one could see she had experience and was not reluctant. Next day a semi-pro from ThaiFriendly: was as expected: well-done but little feeling, "pro". Fourth day a mature lady from ThaiCupid, divorced and little experienced in sex as she was honest to tell me. Said had never sucked and I did believe quite soon. She was really reluctant but after relaxing we went very wet and tried BJ. Soon she knew how to do and after some minutes even seemed to enjoy. Next morning she was asking for! Meet her end of month when returning there and I am quite sure she will even do CIM. Had no sex for long time and really liked it! Very good finding! Last day just went to Beergarden on Saturday evening. Was crowded, more ladies than men but few tempting. Was lucky to get the sexiest of them, a 46 y leady with well-conserved body. In bed she was extremely nice, sucking me for long time because I had problems to cum despite being really horny. She tried and tried until I finally made it. Once again, I can just say: Thermae is filled with really young nice bodies but forming an army of cold fishes while Beergarden (as you see I like only FLs) can be a place to find a gem. While this lady was particulalrly nice, I can onyl say that the least good lady in Beergarden was still ebtter than the ebst in Thermae during my last 2 year experience. Each one's taste, depends what you look for. Enjoy it!
Plenty of other girls, I would knock back even if free. It is just too dull to fuck uglies. I don't need that no matter how cheap they are and no matter how good they are as a pornstar. In Thermae I won't go below the top 3 girls for looks. Just don't like to compromise too much. It is not like I can't move on possibly even go without for the evening. Last night was first fuck for a few days, and just was a regular reliable GFE bargirl from Shark with stamina to go at least 90 minutes for the ST. Well above average looks, but not at all stunning. I had actually intended to splurge and do first 3some in a while, but the other sexy target girl was absent. Not just any girl will do.
Different guys get turned on in different ways. You need pornstar service. Others need extra good looks as a priority. Yes I need a GFE as well, that is the problem with many Soapy girls of today.If I lived in Thailand I would probably be the same. However, work forces me to spend considerable time in a Caribbean island where the pickings are slim. Many times I have sessioned 4's maybe even 3's in favor of 7's that I had been with many times before just to experience a new girl. I don't think I will ever lose the desire for some strange.
I saw a couple of positive reviews for Ying on *** so I decided to give her a go as my former Bangkok regular is no longer around. Ying is not a stunner, I'd say 7/10, but she seems to like to both give and receive which is important to me. I ended up sessioning with her twice, once at the shop off of Soi 22 Sukhamvit and once at my hotel. Both sessions were hot. Lots of DFK and mutual fondling and sucking. Ying's boobs are enhanced but feel natural. She has a landing strip pussy which she loves to have licked and sucked. It's not always easy to find a GFE provider in a Bangkok massage shop but Ying meets the test.
I went to Chrome Bar at around 1 PM the other day. There were 7-8 girls to choose from. Nothing spectacular but a couple of quite cute ones. They had two options, one hour for 2000 baht and two hours for 3000 baht. I went with the 2 hour option. The girl I chose was called Vi, she was older than I thought (35) but looked younger. Very nice body and really friendly, laughing a lot and smiling. Shower together and then 30 min Nuru massage, very interesting feeling. Finished the Nuru with a BBBJ with CIM. Shower again then Thai massage on the bed, which was a bit weak for my taste. After the massage some nice sex in different positions. All in all very pleasant experience. Have not tried any other place yet so can't compare, but for me this was a great first choice, would definitely recommend.
I saw a couple of positive reviews for Ying on *** ....It's not clear for me from your comment where to find lady Ying. I had to look it up. And I found lady Ying at Exotic Massage on Soi 22 Sukhamvit:
http://www.exoticmassagebangkok.com/girls/
It's not clear for me from your comment where to find lady Ying. I had to look it up. And I found lady Ying at Exotic Massage on Soi 22 Sukhamvit:
http://www.exoticmassagebangkok.com/girls/Thanks for posting. Silly of me for not having included info on where to find her.
Hello is Porno still the Star at Snowwhite is has the order changed in a Year.
Hello is Porno still the Star at Snowwhite is has the order changed in a Year.Intriguing.
Went to Chrome Bar on my final day in Bangkok as I wanted to try Nuru after hearing some friends rave about it. I guess it must have been a busy afternoon as only two ladies were available. Both were on the larger side than is my preference but I'm not overly picky so I went with #1 (Pei) based on recommendation of the papasan. All I can say is wow! The lady sure know how to fuck and seems to enjoy it. Body slide and b2 b massage on the nuru mat was fun. Pei got me off with a nice HJ for the first pop. She then gave me a better than average massage, giving me a chance to recover. On the flip junior began to stir which prompted her to go for BBBJ which was great. I didn't want to lose it so I asked her for the cover. She suited me up and lowered herself in ACG. And then she began to bounce on my cock like a maniac. I matched her bounces with my thrusts as best as I could but it was difficult to keep up with her. After about 10 minutes I switched to k9 as I wanted a view of her ass which is more Latina looking than Asian. Again she was pushing back as I thrust. The FS was so hot that I managed a second pop, which doesn't always happen for me in a two-hour session.
Went to Chrome Bar on my final day in Bangkok as I wanted to try Nuru after hearing some friends rave about it. I guess it must have been a busy afternoon as only two ladies were available. Both were on the larger side than is my preference but I'm not overly picky so I went with #1 (Pei) based on recommendation of the papasan. All I can say is wow! The lady sure know how to fuck and seems to enjoy it. Body slide and b2 b massage on the nuru mat was fun. Pei got me off with a nice HJ for the first pop. She then gave me a better than average massage, giving me a chance to recover. On the flip junior began to stir which prompted her to go for BBBJ which was great. I didn't want to lose it so I asked her for the cover. She suited me up and lowered herself in ACG. And then she began to bounce on my cock like a maniac. I matched her bounces with my thrusts as best as I could but it was difficult to keep up with her. After about 10 minutes I switched to k9 as I wanted a view of her ass which is more Latina looking than Asian. Again she was pushing back as I thrust. The FS was so hot that I managed a second pop, which doesn't always happen for me in a two-hour session.What are the prices at Chrome Bar now?
What are the prices at Chrome Bar now?Hey GS, you can check out post #15901 for the answer!
I had a booking at the Lord for Friday night. I booked model XL 24 through the Line app days before, because I have one of the mamasans contact details in my phone. She confirmed the booking and I even got a message from her Friday afternoon asking me if its still confirmed. I arrived at the Lord on time and she walked me over to the bar area and told me her she is. Was very surprised because the girl was a totally different girl. I told her this ids not who I booked and she looked confused. The girl that was there was XL 12. She then started talking Thai to the girl and then told me that XL 24 is sick she has a period and couldn't show up. I call bullshit, but what can I do. I looked around but no other girl I saw attractive and there was not that many either. It was 7:00 PM and were not that many girls working at that time. So I went along with XL 12 her name is Pop and paid and went to the rooms. She is very very tall girl, nice long legs, and long brown hair. She has white skin and big eyes. Definitely a nose job but not very noticeable. Overall she looked good but I was feeling disappointed inside. I think she noticed that and felt it, so it made the mood awkward. In the room we talked while she filled up the tub and seeing her from close up I actually thought she is a pretty girl. She was wearing a long grey dress underneath a black thong and a black bra. When she undressed I got happy because her body was very nice. Nice big breasts which felt real, flat stomach and tight body. She told me she used tom play a lot of volleyball in school. Her pussy was partially shaved. In the tub she washed me and and after started sliding up and down on my cock with her boobs and after gave me a BBJ. I tried to kiss her but she said she can't because of her braces on her teeth. The no kissing was a turn of for me because it made the whole thing feel mechanical. After on the bed she gave me a nice BBJ again and I touched her pussy which was totally wet. The I flipped her over and spread her legs and gave her DATY which she loved very much. Moaning like crazy and saying OMG, oh fuck so good! I just loved how she was enjoying it. After I fucked her with a condom in missionary. We were both sweating and she was very very loud. Sometimes when I put my head close to hers she opened her mouth for a kiss. We came together and after we just sat on the bed talking. To be honest I had a good time with her and if she kissed more it would have been perfect. On Sunday night I returned to the Lord hoping for a nice lineup. Only 3 XL girls were working XL 10, XL 4 and the last I don't even remember, she was so busy on her phone could barely even see her face. The papasan told me he recommends XL 4. It was hard to choose because they were standing little bit far away and not much difference in face, and could not see the body because of the dress they wore. So I went with XL 4. When we got to the room I started to regret my decision a lot. She is a 27 years old Thai with a little bit of Indian mix in her. She had a big fatty ass, big but hanging breasts and overall not nice looking body. Overall I would give her a 4/10. Her face was the only positive thing about her. She had very long brown hair and pretty big eyes and a shaved pussy. She had zero plastic surgery, but she sure could use a touch up here and there. She told me you look worried because I was looking at her. I thought you can sure read my face well, worried was just one of the many disappointments I was feeling. I thought Ok lets just get this over with and leave. Cross it off as a bad memory. In the tub she washed me then gave me a surprisingly very very good BBJ, she took it all the way in her mouth until she almost gagged. After we went onto the bed where more DFK, and BBJ followed. I was fingering her tight pussy while she was sucking me. After she got a condom and pulled it on me, and bent over, I flipped her around because her ass isn't something I want to look at, so I fucked her in missionary. She was rubbing her clit and playing with her nipples while I was fucking her. We came together and after she asked me if I want massage, I opted for none, so we cleaned up and I was just thinking about getting out of there. While dressing up she asked me if I want another round and I said no. She wasn't my type at all and even if she meant it and it wasn't a joke I would not want to fuck her again. Seriously I don't understand what is going on at the Lord. How they rank these girls. While I was leaving with her I saw some asians walking to the rooms with other girls. They looked so hot, and pretty and young. Way better then mine. I took a glimpse at their badge and I could see the category letters O and K. These two categories are lower in raking than XL, yet they were so much more better looking. What is up with that? Isn't higher the category and price the girls looking should be prettier with better body. Thats what would make sense, but I think this is non longer the case here. Also what happened with my booking is also disappointing even though the replacement girl was nice. I remember a year ago I was at the Lord first time in my life and after going there 4 days in a row I wanted to make a booking before I left the city. I booked a girl and on the day of the booking I get a phone call from the mamasan saying she has a period and can't make it, but can replace the girl with another one who I knew from before; and this way I still confirmed the booking and turned out all good. But this time why they didn't call me then? So far I had a good run at this place but the last two occasions were a let down.
What are the prices at Chrome Bar now?2000 for 1 HR; 3000 for 2 hrs.
2000 for 1 HR; 3000 for 2 hrs.Thanks much!
I had a booking at the Lord for Friday night. I booked model XL 24 through the Line app days before, because I have one of the mamasans contact details in my phone. She confirmed the booking and I even got a message from her Friday afternoon asking me if its still confirmed. I arrived at the Lord on time and she walked me over to the bar area and told me her she is. Was very surprised because the girl was a totally different girl. I told her this ids not who I booked and she looked confused. The girl that was there was XL 12. She then started talking Thai to the girl and then told me that XL 24 is sick she has a period and couldn't show up. I call bullshit, but what can I do. I looked around but no other girl I saw attractive and there was not that many either. It was 7:00 PM and were not that many girls working at that time. So I went along with XL 12 her name is Pop and paid and went to the rooms.
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Seriously I don't understand what is going on at the Lord. How they rank these girls. While I was leaving with her I saw some asians walking to the rooms with other girls. They looked so hot, and pretty and young. Way better then mine. I took a glimpse at their badge and I could see the category letters O and K. These two categories are lower in raking than XL, yet they were so much more better looking. What is up with that? Isn't higher the category and price the girls looking should be prettier with better body. Thats what would make sense, but I think this is non longer the case here. Also what happened with my booking is also disappointing even though the replacement girl was nice. I remember a year ago I was at the Lord first time in my life and after going there 4 days in a row I wanted to make a booking before I left the city. I booked a girl and on the day of the booking I get a phone call from the mamasan saying she has a period and can't make it, but can replace the girl with another one who I knew from before; and this way I still confirmed the booking and turned out all good. But this time why they didn't call me then? So far I had a good run at this place but the last two occasions were a let down.A few observations.
First I don't believe it is worthwhile booking a girl until the day and after checking she has arrived at work. Girls are just too unreliable. This is Thailand. Bookings for the future are intended for Hotel Rooms, not for girls.
Don't take a girl just because some papasan recommends her. He could be getting paid a kickback to recommend her, so his recommendation is not likely to mean anything other than he gains by it. If you have a long term relationship with a very reliable cheer person, that you tip for good advice, that is different. Even if he gets no kickback, his taste may not be your taste, or he may just feel sorry for a girl getting low bookings. So better you choose but use cheer person to answer questions like are her tits real or not. Is she likely to be willing to DFK? I would be asking for which girls really prefer Farangs. Tip cheer persons afterwards if they gave good advice. I don't like to tip them too much in advance if they told me bullshit. A token tip up front is okay No more than 100 Baht.
I do agree that it is very hard to asses a girl's figure when she is seated. I try to move around a bit to see her from different angles, to try to avoid big assed girls or girls with significant belly flab. Nothing is fool-proof but girls in Lord should not be having bad bodies, it is just that my taste is extra slim.
In the end nothing is guaranteed. My good looking white skinned Lord girl was not worth a repeat, as no DFK and she just wasn't really into it that much. Looks like you got lucky with XL12. The price is steep if get a girl that is very so-so. I recently got an absolute stunner at Emmanuelle who was slim and perfect body for me. She was crap on the bed with too much restrictions and no GFE, terrible BJ. The advantage was the price was lower so a little less money wasted. LOL.
In my case I need to find girls that have a lot of experience with Farangs and prefer bigger Farang customers. That is not so easy at the Lord. These places are significantly better for Asian customers, I feel.
Went to Chrome Bar on my final day in Bangkok as I wanted to try Nuru after hearing some friends rave about it. I guess it must have been a busy afternoon as only two ladies were available. Both were on the larger side than is my preference but I'm not overly picky so I went with #1 (Pei) based on recommendation of the papasan. All I can say is wow! The lady sure know how to fuck and seems to enjoy it. Body slide and b2 b massage on the nuru mat was fun. Pei got me off with a nice HJ for the first pop. She then gave me a better than average massage, giving me a chance to recover. On the flip junior began to stir which prompted her to go for BBBJ which was great. I didn't want to lose it so I asked her for the cover. She suited me up and lowered herself in ACG. And then she began to bounce on my cock like a maniac. I matched her bounces with my thrusts as best as I could but it was difficult to keep up with her. After about 10 minutes I switched to k9 as I wanted a view of her ass which is more Latina looking than Asian. Again she was pushing back as I thrust. The FS was so hot that I managed a second pop, which doesn't always happen for me in a two-hour session.I have used a few times in the past with up to 3 or 4 different girls, all of slimmer build. Never had a bad time there. I probably repeated 3 out of the 4 girls. I read some guys don't like the rooms, however significantly better for me than the Annies rooms. I don't see the problem. They use a padded mat rather than airbed but it is practical for me. Good for fucking on for those that are adaptable.
I recall some extended vigour fucks too. Only one of the girls I ever tried there was a little on the lazy side, but that was during a threesome. The other girl more than made up for it.
Went to Chrome Bar on my final day in Bangkok as I wanted to try Nuru after hearing some friends rave about it. I guess it must have been a busy afternoon as only two ladies were available. Both were on the larger side than is my preference but I'm not overly picky so I went with #1 (Pei) based on recommendation of the papasan. All I can say is wow! The lady sure know how to fuck and seems to enjoy it. Body slide and b2 b massage on the nuru mat was fun. Pei got me off with a nice HJ for the first pop. She then gave me a better than average massage, giving me a chance to recover. On the flip junior began to stir which prompted her to go for BBBJ which was great. I didn't want to lose it so I asked her for the cover. She suited me up and lowered herself in ACG. And then she began to bounce on my cock like a maniac. I matched her bounces with my thrusts as best as I could but it was difficult to keep up with her. After about 10 minutes I switched to k9 as I wanted a view of her ass which is more Latina looking than Asian. Again she was pushing back as I thrust. The FS was so hot that I managed a second pop, which doesn't always happen for me in a two-hour session.Any baby damage on Pei or is she child free? I'm going to completely forego the ones with kids from now on I think.
Any baby damage on Pei or is she child free? I'm going to completely forego the ones with kids from now on I think.She has a kid but no noticeable damage. Just be advised that she is not a small woman. By no means BBF, but heavier than average including a bubble but ass.
She has a kid but no noticeable damage. Just be advised that she is not a small woman. By no means BBF, but heavier than average including a bubble but ass.It's not just the baby damage, so many guys are clearly scared that the pussy might not be tight enough. They need dick crushing pussies. LOL. I don't see how it matters since many of them seem to be more keen to do the asshole.
I am different, I like semi-loose pussy on a girl that can use her muscles to give a good feel. My Mrs. Has a child but still very good tight pussy (perhaps a little too tight) and no saggy bits, so I am always very keen to have her for sex. Never got bored with her (after many years) even she is no pornstar.
I have only one regular girl left with no baby. Too many others are dick scared, and don't like a full penetration, or are suffering already from some other guy that just fucked them too hard causing bruised and inflamed uterus.
She has a kid but no noticeable damage. Just be advised that she is not a small woman. By no means BBF, but heavier than average including a bubble but ass.Thanks for the candid reply. Passed by Chrome this evening about 9 pm. There was nothing outside that I would consider at that time.
...Seriously I don't understand what is going on at the Lord. How they rank these girls. While I was leaving with her I saw some asians walking to the rooms with other girls. They looked so hot, and pretty and young. Way better then mine. I took a glimpse at their badge and I could see the category letters O and K. These two categories are lower in raking than XL, yet they were so much more better looking. What is up with that? ...Yes indeed, I asked myself that question a number of times upon visiting the Lord, I. E. What criteria do they use to rank these girls?
And now, when a buddy is visiting Bangkok (often with their SO), and asks me where he can find the hottest girls in Bangkok without being away too long from the SO, I mention The Lord but I have to preface it with the warning that things may look different than we think. Then I have to explain, if I get a chance, that the management at The Lord does not think like us. We would rank the girls way differently than them.
Syz advice is right on, go there in person and take your time to pick a girl, and don't pay attention to their ranking.
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So I went with XL 4. When we got to the room I started to regret my decision a lot. She is a 27 years old Thai with a little bit of Indian mix in her. She had a big fatty ass, big but hanging breasts and overall not nice looking body. Overall I would give her a 4/10. Her face was the only positive thing about her. She had very long brown hair and pretty big eyes and a shaved pussy. She had zero plastic surgery, but she sure could use a touch up here and there. She told me you look worried because I was looking at her. I thought you can sure read my face well, worried was just one of the many disappointments I was feeling. I thought Ok lets just get this over with and leave. Cross it off as a bad memory. In the tub she washed me then gave me a surprisingly very very good BBJ, she took it all the way in her mouth until she almost gagged. After we went onto the bed where more DFK, and BBJ followed. I was fingering her tight pussy while she was sucking me. After she got a condom and pulled it on me, and bent over, I flipped her around because her ass isn't something I want to look at, so I fucked her in missionary. She was rubbing her clit and playing with her nipples while I was fucking her. We came together and after she asked me if I want massage, I opted for none, so we cleaned up and I was just thinking about getting out of there. While dressing up she asked me if I want another round and I said no. She wasn't my type at all and even if she meant it and it wasn't a joke I would not want to fuck her again. Seriously I don't understand what is going on at the Lord. How they rank these girls. While I was leaving with her I saw some asians walking to the rooms with other girls. They looked so hot, and pretty and young. Way better then mine. I took a glimpse at their badge and I could see the category letters O and K. These two categories are lower in raking than XL, yet they were so much more better looking. What is up with that? Isn't higher the category and price the girls looking should be prettier with better body. Thats what would make sense, but I think this is non longer the case here.
-snip-Isn't it possible that those lower-rated but hotter, prettier and younger girls on their way to a room with the Asian guys would in no way provide the sexual services you got with the higher-rated uglier one and that is why the uglier one is rated higher, due to her willingness to provide better sexual service and nothing to do with her looks? I mean, is it logical in a place like The Lord that is the consideration the papasan takes into account when he recommends a girl to a Farang vs an Asian? Maybe he gets tons of complaints about lousy service from Farangs who take those hotter, prettier and younger girls and rarely gets such complaints from the Asians who take them. Just a thought.
What criteria do they use to rank these girls?Every time I've asked the girls about this they say that they decide it themselves, in consultation with the management. So the papa-san might say, "How about B3000 for you?" and the girl can either accept it or ask to be put in a higher (or maybe even lower) price category. Some of the keenest ones are in the lowest categories because they know they'll get more business there.
Hey,
Anyone who can share some recent info on EZ massage?
/ Kirsia.
Every time I've asked the girls about this they say that they decide it themselves, in consultation with the management. So the papa-san might say, "How about B3000 for you?" and the girl can either accept it or ask to be put in a higher (or maybe even lower) price category. Some of the keenest ones are in the lowest categories because they know they'll get more business there.Interesting! Thanks for the intel.
Hi all,
I've got my first trip to Bangkok coming up next week. And up until now, my plan has been to hit up soapies & gogos in the same day.
Essentially soapies 1st & then gogos afterwards. Needless to say, targeting prime hours.
But after having read through this thread and other sites. There seems to be mixed opinions on "prime" hours for soapies.
-Everyone seems to think before 5 pm is too early with few girls to choose from.
-Some say 6-7 pm is best time to go? Supposedly the time most first arrive & thus you're more likely to be their 1st customer of the day.
-Some say 7 pm is too early with not enough girls to choose from?
Planning to visit: Emmanuelle, Ocean / Colonze2, The Lord, Utopia, maybe Poseidon (Open to suggestions!
Would really appreciate any feedback from all you soapy connoisseurs!
Hi all,
I've got my first trip to Bangkok coming up next week. And up until now, my plan has been to hit up soapies & gogos in the same day.
Essentially soapies 1st & then gogos afterwards. Needless to say, targeting prime hours.
But after having read through this thread and other sites. There seems to be mixed opinions on "prime" hours for soapies.
-Everyone seems to think before 5 pm is too early with few girls to choose from.
-Some say 6-7 pm is best time to go? Supposedly the time most first arrive & thus you're more likely to be their 1st customer of the day.
-Some say 7 pm is too early with not enough girls to choose from?
Planning to visit: Emmanuelle, Ocean / Colonze2, The Lord, Utopia, maybe Poseidon (Open to suggestions!
Would really appreciate any feedback from all you soapy connoisseurs!Start at 4:30 pm and walk in and out of them all until you find one who really physically turns you on (and also has some receptive body language, meaning she isn't completely ignoring you in favor of japanese / koreans customers only). This is what I do and I live here and it never lets me down. The only mistake I make is getting lazy and not walking out to check out other soapies. You can always walk back in later too. Browse / shop around a lot, make the most of your nut.
UShobbyist
11-16-17, 23:40
Hey,
Anyone who can share some recent info on EZ massage?
/ Kirsia.It's a dump. When I asked all the girls about CIM during the lineup, nobody agreed to do CIM.
Start at 4:30 pm and walk in and out of them all until you find one who really physically turns you on (and also has some receptive body language, meaning she isn't completely ignoring you in favor of japanese / koreans customers only). This is what I do and I live here and it never lets me down. The only mistake I make is getting lazy and not walking out to check out other soapies. You can always walk back in later too. Browse / shop around a lot, make the most of your nut.Wow 4:30 pm! That is very encouraging news most definitely won't be rushing / settling.
Also, to be gladly honest, in regards to the p4 p scene. I don't think I'll face much rejection due to my ethnicity as I am a relatively good looking 26 y / o chinese / taiwanese american in decent shape.
Fingers crossed though... Cheers!
Wow 4:30 pm! That is very encouraging news most definitely won't be rushing / settling.
Also, to be gladly honest, in regards to the p4 p scene. I don't think I'll face much rejection due to my ethnicity as I am a relatively good looking 26 y / o chinese / taiwanese american in decent shape.
Fingers crossed though... Cheers!Refreshing to see young mongers from the US. So many of the younger western dudes I meet here through the music scene are completely under the spell of hardcore western feminists. They call me a neanderthal.
Ragnarok42
11-17-17, 12:22
Trying to kill a few hours before my flight left and I read that Alane was a good place to go. Got there during lunch crush so not many girls (and I use that term generously) so choose the least offensive one， Lord knows I have had some amazing sex with less than attractive ladies. Lady was pleasant and friendly enough and washed my privates and butt very clean but no hint of kissing or BBBJ. Massage was OK, but then again I am not a good judge of that.
She proceeded to lie on top of me and gave me a body rub while I heard the other girl come in (I had ordered the special 2 girl fashion massage), and she quickly showered. They flipped me over and the first girl fed me her breasts while the other started to give an oily handjob. Soon the first girl mounted my face and I was eating her pussy, at this time I noticed that the second girl had me in her mouth up to my balls, first BBBJ I have had this whole trip. I couldn't manage to blow in her mouth and she went back to the hand. First girl seemed to really be getting into into it and literally face fucked me until I screamed to high heaven and blew a huge load out onto the second girls oily hands.
After the shower we all giggled and I was spent but obviously not too happy to not get sex. But damage was only 1600, so not bad for a handjob only 3 p, but next time I will pay more for the lesbian option on Outcall.
Refreshing to see young mongers from the US. So many of the younger western dudes I meet here through the music scene are completely under the spell of hardcore western feminists. They call me a neanderthal.Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick.
Stupid, entitled, princesses that have sky high standards / expectations of men. With jacket shit to offer in return.
"he has to be tall, handsome, rich, FUNNY, smart & oh he has to have a huge cock".
So rather than wasting my time & money listening to BS for hours only to have mediocre sex w / the risk of post-sex expectations. Well you guys can guess the rest LOL.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.
Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick.
Stupid, entitled, princesses that have sky high standards / expectations of men. With jacket shit to offer in return.
"he has to be tall, handsome, rich, FUNNY, smart & oh he has to have a huge cock".
So rather than wasting my time & money listening to BS for hours only to have mediocre sex w / the risk of post-sex expectations. Well you guys can guess the rest LOL.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.If more dudes had your attitude the West would be a lot better place for men. That being said, expectations among "regular" Thai gals are getting as bad as their counterparts in the West, well, minus the want of a big pecker.
You'll have a good time here. Rub one out before you hit the soapies if you are worried about lasting. Sure you can negotiate second pop.
Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick.
Stupid, entitled, princesses that have sky high standards / expectations of men. With jacket shit to offer in return.
"he has to be tall, handsome, rich, FUNNY, smart & oh he has to have a huge cock".
So rather than wasting my time & money listening to BS for hours only to have mediocre sex w / the risk of post-sex expectations. Well you guys can guess the rest LOL.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.Not an experienced monger here but based on our experience last week, when I enquired the papasan at 2 places we were told to negotiate with the girls directly. We were offered second pop for an extra 1000 B by the girls. My friend could muster the energy to do it and gave fantastic reviews of the girl. After one I was so spent that I didn't bother. However I had a great time as well.
I will be writing detailed reviews later since I just got back to Home base.
Frankly it didn't take me long to get to this state of mind.
Vast majority of western / westernized girls make me sick....I think it's important to remember that some of the best porn-stars are western women. And some western women, who do it for money, can be just as good at it as Thai P4P ladies are.
Western women aren't allowed to do it for money, except in porn. And that's why there are a lot fewer women like that in the West, than there are in Thailand.
I think many western women have the potential to be just as good with guys as Thai women are. It's just that western women don't have the freedom to do it, and that's why they don't do it.
This restriction on women's freedom to do it with guys in any way they want is probably a side-effect of democracy, where the majority rules. P4P women are always a minority in any society. And this means that the majority usually runs roughshod over their rights and freedoms.
Democracy is supposed to be the rule of the majority with respect for the rights of minorities. But quite often it's just a dictatorship of the majority, without any respect for minorities. That's why slavery, civil rights violations of blacks, and genocide of American Indians was possible in a democratic USA. And this isn't just USA. Even ancient Greek Democracy had plenty of slaves too.
I've also stopped trying to make friends with western women. But I don't blame western women for the way they are. This is bigger than individuals. It's about the way western societies are organized in terms of their politics and power-sharing, or lack of it.
Took My back to the hotel tonight. Only two holes are open but she does multiple positions, CIM, Rimming and DATY very well.
Her English is ok and she is fun to be around I may repeat.
/ Kirsia.
I will be back to Bangkok in few weeks, few months back when I visited Club 102 for the first time, I picked this chick named Nana and I had a good time, I actually returned 2 days later and took her again. But during my last three visits, she was not working there, they said she was on vacation and they seem pissed off when I ask for her on phone.
But I did go to Addict and had a good time there too, but there was something about Nana, may be her playful nature I enjoyed.
Did anyone take take her for a session? Apart from her, I didn't really find anyone interesting.
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The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly (maybe under 5 min of pure thrusting? Especially when I'm excited. And I know I will be haha).
And from what I've read. Most if not all soapies are standard 1 pop & there isn't exactly a set price when paying / tipping a girl for a 2nd pop.
Would any experienced members have any tips on negotiating a friendly 2nd pop price / fee? Needless to say, a girl liking me would be a big factor.Yes, not lasting long enough with the lady is something I've had some experience with too. This is a common problem for guys, from what I've read about it. And this is nothing to be ashamed of. All it means that you need a second or a even a third shot with the lady to be truly and fully satisfied with her.
And as LoneWolff has said in his post, 1000 THB is what you should offer the lady. 1000 THB has a special meaning for Thai P4P ladies. Because this is how much they expect from Thai guys, when they do it in private outside of any establishment.
A lot of the money you pay at the massage place actually goes to the management and not to the lady. She might be getting only 1000 THB even for your first shot with her, with the rest of the money going to the management. Which makes your 1000 THB offer for your 2nd shot with her very reasonable indeed. She doesn't need to share it with the management. All of it is hers, just like a tip.
It's a quick way for the lady to make some extra money. Which means that she might even be glad that you want to be bad and go for a 2nd round with her.
And of course, if you want the lady to like you, then you should tell her that you like her and hug her like she is your girlfriend. But you should do it only in the private room, where other people can't see. Because in Thai culture, it's very embarrassing for women, including P4P women, to have any kind of touching or physical affection with guys in public. This needs to be done strictly in private. In private, Thai P4P ladies have no problem with this.
Liking needs to be mutual, or else it doesn't work. And somebody needs to start it. Which might as well be you. The lady knows there is no commitment and no long-term relationship. Which makes it easy for her to like you back for the moment.
It's like she is a popular lady, and you are her fan, who likes her pussy and bum. She likes being popular, and she appreciates your attention. That's the kind of liking you can have with her. This liking is totally without commitment. But it's genuine in its own way.
And of course, you should tell the lady that she is too sexy for you, which is true, when you do her hard-and-fast, and you can't last.
It's like you need that 2nd ride with her, because she is so good-looking and so hot. She graciously accepts your 1000 THB. And you go back inside for another ride, like a real fan, who can't get enough of her pussy and bum.
A lot of the money you pay at the massage place actually goes to the management and not to the lady. She might be getting only 1000 THB even for your first shot with her, with the rest of the money going to the management. Which makes your 1000 THB offer for your 2nd shot with her very reasonable indeed. She doesn't need to share it with the management. All of it is hers, just like a tip.
And of course, if you want the lady to like you, then you should tell her that you like her and hug her like she is your girlfriend. But you should do it only in the private room, where other people can't see. Because in Thai culture, it's very embarrassing for women, including P4P women, to have any kind of touching or physical affection with guys in public. This needs to be done strictly in private. In private, Thai P4P ladies have no problem with this.
And of course, you should tell the lady that she is too sexy for you, which is true, when you do her hard-and-fast, and you can't last.
Yes will most likely be negotiating for a 2nd pop IF I feel I can muster it. And no shame here. Admittedly, if the girl is smokin' hot, it will definitely be hard to contain my excitement & I don't mind letting her know that.
As for my intent with P4 P. I'm actually not doing it much for the GFE. I actually WANT it to be a bit more mechanical / transactional. Not going to lie. Currently, paying for sex gives me a sense of "total control" that turns me on more than a GFE. I honestly don't think a GFE will ever be better for me until I meet "the one" meant for me. I know this approach differs from others here who enjoy GFE, but I'm more in the P4 P scene to simply satisfy the carnal need of sex rather than the emotional. (for now at least).
I think it's important to remember that some of the best porn-stars are western women. And some western women, who do it for money, can be just as good at it as Thai P4P ladies are.
Western women aren't allowed to do it for money, except in porn. And that's why there are a lot fewer women like that in the West, than there are in Thailand.
I think many western women have the potential to be just as good with guys as Thai women are. It's just that western women don't have the freedom to do it, and that's why they don't do it.
Hey man I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I was just talking about paying for sex instead of working for it LOL.
I'm sure "working girls" here in the states are just as good if not better than their Thai counterparts.
But I'm reluctant to indulge in the P4 P scene here in the states mostly because:
-Its way more expensive in the states!
-Not shitting where you eat! Personally, I don't relish the idea of possibly running into a girl I just paid to have sex with. Especially if I'm with a GF, a friend, coworkers, etc.
To put it bluntly, if I'm hungry. I'll come eat. Not looking to have my food within arms reach! Thats how you get fat.
-I'm simply a bit more attracted to asian women than caucasian. Maybe I'm going through a phase.
But on that note. Does anyone have any places to recommend for finding short / petite / young / pretty spinners?
As much as I love my tall, sexy, fair-skinned ladies. From all these reviews, it seems like that's ALL places like the Lord have to offer.
I like some variation in my diet! .
Not an experienced monger here but based on our experience last week, when I enquired the papasan at 2 places we were told to negotiate with the girls directly. We were offered second pop for an extra 1000 B by the girls. My friend could muster the energy to do it and gave fantastic reviews of the girl. After one I was so spent that I didn't bother. However I had a great time as well.
I will be writing detailed reviews later since I just got back to Home base.
I'll definitely aim for a 2nd pop. If I can get over that "disgusted with myself" feeling ASAP LOL.
I will definitely be posting very detailed reviews of each encounter I have here after my trip. It'll be the "50 shades of THAI" ISG style.
If more dudes had your attitude the West would be a lot better place for men. That being said, expectations among "regular" Thai gals are getting as bad as their counterparts in the West, well, minus the want of a big pecker.
You'll have a good time here. Rub one out before you hit the soapies if you are worried about lasting. Sure you can negotiate second pop.
Not surprised about the girls. Typically see this trend as a country's overall economy moves further and further away from their 3rd world roots.
I mean look at China & Taiwan. Those are "my people" and I'm not ashamed to say that Chinese / Taiwanese girls can be even WORSE than their western counterparts.
I honestly might have to consider rubbing one out before I hit the soapies. At LEAST on Day 1.
My plan after Day 1. Is to take gogo girls for LT & get one out in the morning before they leave & then hit a soapy that evening.
JUST my mental plan so far. Not sure yet if I'll actually be able to carry it out LOL!
Western women aren't allowed to do it for money, except in porn. And that's why there are a lot fewer women like that in the West, than there are in Thailand.
I think many western women have the potential to be just as good with guys as Thai women are. It's just that western women don't have the freedom to do it, and that's why they don't do it.
Only in certain countries are women not allowed to be hookers, e. G. USA, etc. However western women can move to a move liberal and more lucrative country. What percentage of the young pretty Romanian women are hookers? Maybe higher than percentage of Thai hookers, since can be so lucrative for them coming from a very poor country. Even India has far more hookers than Thailand I have read, perhaps not by percentage. Plenty of other poor east European countries have girls willing to fuck for some money.
The percentage of women working as hookers can depend greatly on how much money they could earn in a non hooking job in comparison.
Hookers are looked down on in every country I think, not just in the west. However I think that Thai girls are far more reluctant to be seen as pornstars in public eye than western women. It again depends on how big the money incentive is.
African girls are very willing to be hookers I think, in comparison to some other countries. Again it is a money driven thing.
In both Europe and in Thailand, I have met students you are hooking to finance their studies, or at least it started out that way. In western countries we have girls not hooking but becoming erotic dancers or strippers (probably heaps of them in Las Vegas), in Thailand we don't have that. We have some girls working as non hooking Coyotes but not even getting their gear off.
Thai girls can't make ends meet by working in a factory or being a massage girl with no naughty stuff. Why do they want to provide sex if they don't like it? Need the money. Don't want to work so hard.
Franciscass
11-20-17, 11:41
Not going to lie. Currently, paying for sex gives me a sense of "total control" that turns me on more than a GFE. I honestly don't think a GFE will ever be better for me until I meet "the one" meant for me. I know this approach differs from others here who enjoy GFE, but I'm more in the P4 P scene to simply satisfy the carnal need of sex rather than the emotional.I agree entirely with this perspective. You are paying her for a service to satisfy your needs not hers.
It's understandable and arguably laudable to go into a session with the intention of wanting to give her the sexual buzz of her life, after which she cuddles up to you and tells you, you so strong man and leave feeling king of the hill.
Reality check, that's not what just happened. Sure she had a good time but nothing near what you think she had especially if she is experienced and knows the "you make me so sexy routine."
More important did you have as a good a time as you could have had had you concentrated on what turns you on.
I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble. I treat the girls well both financially sexually and with respect and I enjoy the GFE when it's halfway credible but it's about my orgasm (s) not hers.
She's working I'm playing and paying.
The only thing I'm truly worried about is. Well ill be honest. I don't think I last long enough for a 1 pop, 90 min session sadly.Viagra reduces sensation to the penis and makes you last longer and more difficult to cum. It also helps getting back into a second pop much more sooner and more reliably. Take 1/3 or 1/2 a pill and drink plenty of water before.
The girls will easily, almost always, accept 1000 baht for another pop. That's a good bit of extra income for them as they only keep 1000-2000 from the whole deal. So nearly doubling their pay is easily going to get you another pop since it isn't even that much extra work.
Also, I don't last anywhere near 90 minutes either LOL. I just go there for my own pleasure, however long or short that may be. It changes on the day / girl. But what really makes me happy is if I find a girl I actually want to stay the whole 90 minutes with to have an extra pop with (because she is physically turns me on that much). 95% of the time I just walk out after I finish, whenever that is I have no idea time kind of just blurs LOL. Sadly I'm not finding that much in P4 P at all in Thailand these days (stunners, models, etc). But when I do, I will repeat (until they get too fat LOL) and gladly get 2 pops (with the help of viagra for the second) because they turn me on that much.
I agree entirely with this perspective. You are paying her for a service to satisfy your needs not hers.
It's understandable and arguably laudable to go into a session with the intention of wanting to give her the sexual buzz of her life, after which she cuddles up to you and tells you, you so strong man and leave feeling king of the hill.
Reality check, that's not what just happened. Sure she had a good time but nothing near what you think she had especially if she is experienced and knows the "you make me so sexy routine."
More important did you have as a good a time as you could have had had you concentrated on what turns you on.
I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble. I treat the girls well both financially sexually and with respect and I enjoy the GFE when it's halfway credible but it's about my orgasm (s) not hers.
She's working I'm playing and paying.The girl having a good time is an added bonus but not nearly that high on my priority list.
I'm comfortable with a "cold" transaction as long as I treat the lady like a human with the common courtesy / respect I'd expect in return.
Viagra reduces sensation to the penis and makes you last longer and more difficult to cum. It also helps getting back into a second pop much more sooner and more reliably. Take 1/3 or 1/2 a pill and drink plenty of water before.
The girls will easily, almost always, accept 1000 baht for another pop. That's a good bit of extra income for them as they only keep 1000-2000 from the whole deal. So nearly doubling their pay is easily going to get you another pop since it isn't even that much extra work.
Also, I don't last anywhere near 90 minutes either LOL. I just go there for my own pleasure, however long or short that may be. It changes on the day / girl. But what really makes me happy is if I find a girl I actually want to stay the whole 90 minutes with to have an extra pop with (because she is physically turns me on that much). 95% of the time I just walk out after I finish, whenever that is I have no idea time kind of just blurs LOL. Sadly I'm not finding that much in P4 P at all in Thailand these days (stunners, models, etc). But when I do, I will repeat (until they get too fat LOL) and gladly get 2 pops (with the help of viagra for the second) because they turn me on that much.I've considered viagra & I would go that route if it were over the counter:
My flight departs in under 72 hours, not sure if I can get a prescription fast enough LOL!
And unless there is strong evidence of safety. I won't be using the knockoff shit in thailand.
Side note. Your point lit a bulb in my mind!
If the soapy girls make 1 k-2 k / under 50% of each transaction. Wouldn't it be logical to assume they'd be willing to meet me after work for less than what it would cost to find a GOGO girl?
Hell, from what I've read. It seems like the avg. Soapy girl found at high end joints are way hotter than your avg. "high end" gogo girl. Or am I just being hopeful LOL?
I agree entirely with this perspective. You are paying her for a service to satisfy your needs not hers.
It's understandable and arguably laudable to go into a session with the intention of wanting to give her the sexual buzz of her life, after which she cuddles up to you and tells you, you so strong man and leave feeling king of the hill.
Reality check, that's not what just happened. Sure she had a good time but nothing near what you think she had especially if she is experienced and knows the "you make me so sexy routine."
More important did you have as a good a time as you could have had had you concentrated on what turns you on.
I'm not trying to burst anybody's bubble. I treat the girls well both financially sexually and with respect and I enjoy the GFE when it's halfway credible but it's about my orgasm (s) not hers.
She's working I'm playing and paying.Absolutely. Agree with you 100%. I'm the one who is paying. That is why I get so dismayed when I read posts about guys who are catering to gals that are supposed to be catering to them. Guess that is a Western disease. As one of my friends said over 15 years ago, "Guys don't come to Thailand to $# working girls; they come here to date working girls. " Not me.
The girls will easily, almost always, accept 1000 baht for another pop. That's a good bit of extra income for them as they only keep 1000-2000 from the whole deal. So nearly doubling their pay is easily going to get you another pop since it isn't even that much extra work.Every time I've done that, the girl accepted the money but was very impatient during the second shot. When I offered money for the second shot they almost always expected it to be quick also and made the second shot not enjoyable.
That's exactly the reason I prefer going to oilies and try to meet only the girls that offer multiple shots. Also I would not consider masturbating before going in a soapie, but would rather go to a BJ bar.
The girl having a good time is an added bonus but not nearly that high on my priority list.
I'm comfortable with a "cold" transaction as long as I treat the lady like a human with the common courtesy / respect I'd expect in return.
I've considered viagra & I would go that route if it were over the counter:
My flight departs in under 72 hours, not sure if I can get a prescription fast enough LOL!
And unless there is strong evidence of safety. I won't be using the knockoff shit in thailand.
Side note. Your point lit a bulb in my mind!
If the soapy girls make 1 k-2 k / under 50% of each transaction. Wouldn't it be logical to assume they'd be willing to meet me after work for less than what it would cost to find a GOGO girl?
Hell, from what I've read. It seems like the avg. Soapy girl found at high end joints are way hotter than your avg. "high end" gogo girl. Or am I just being hopeful LOL?I take the generic viagra all the time, completely 1000% safe. As for meeting off from work. It's hard to say. Some have (controlling) Thai boyfriends (because they know that their girlfriend is a hoe and they aren't ok with them meeting up). So their schedule is very narrow and far out (not good if you don't know if you will be horny the next day or 2). But, you might even have better luck meeting them BEFORE their work, at noon-1 pm. Or after their work, 9 PM-ish. I think 10-2 AM is their party or sleep time so not when they want to do more work. They aren't really that money hungry (if they are hot for sure not that money hungry they may even just meet for free to show off to their friends / family if the guy is decent looking). Hot soapy girls in my experience aren't very business-minded like that, not in the desperate way since they can make a lot of money at work, soapies are really busy these days wit guys. They'll meet up if they think that you are not going to get jealous easy and if they like you. Otherwise they aren't desperate all for that extra 1000 baht profit to be made from meeting up outside. It's much more dependent if they like you or not. But even then, they probably prefer to meet at their work because that is their time for working. I think if you can give them the idea that you won't meet them again at all unless it's outside of their work, then they have a reason to see you.
In summary: You'll certainly get more service, pops, longer time together (for a lower price) if they like you. Regardless of where you meet. And them liking you carries over to whether they meet outside of work or not. It really depends on them liking you more than offering them a littte extra money. Also, be aware that they may have a (jealous) Thai boyfriend who may very well become a problem, as it has happened in the past and will happen again. The hot ones a much more likely to have a boyfriend.
edit: just remembered something. If you have a nice looking place (well furnished, good/great view) they are much more likely to show up. And if you are young-ish and decent looking too. Because, they make all this dirty money in the soapies but their village/family doesn't know or understand it well. They need to meet guys who can pass for rich (or are) and bonus points if they are in shape and not too old. They'll want to take pics of them, you, both of you together in a selfie and maybe of your place. To show evidence of a sugar daddy, since there isn't any shame in that situation (back home) and they need a reason to explain all the soapy money that they made.
UShobbyist
11-22-17, 01:52
That's exactly the reason I prefer going to oilies and try to meet only the girls that offer multiple shots. Also I would not consider masturbating before going in a soapie, but would rather go to a BJ bar.If you pay 1700 THB for one hour with a girl in a private room of a BJ bar, the girl will not allow you to come multiple times. I tried several BJ bars, they were all the same.
If you pay 1700 THB for one hour with a girl in a private room of a BJ bar, the girl will not allow you to come multiple times. I tried several BJ bars, they were all the same.Then you might as well take the one pop for 1400.
I take the generic viagra all the time, completely 1000% safe. As for meeting off from work. It's hard to say. Some have (controlling) Thai boyfriends (because they know that their girlfriend is a hoe and they aren't ok with them meeting up). So their schedule is very narrow and far out (not good if you don't know if you will be horny the next day or 2). But, you might even have better luck meeting them BEFORE their work, at noon-1 pm. Or after their work, 9 PM-ish. I think 10-2 AM is their party or sleep time so not when they want to do more work. They aren't really that money hungry (if they are hot for sure not that money hungry they may even just meet for free to show off to their friends / family if the guy is decent looking). Hot soapy girls in my experience aren't very business-minded like that, not in the desperate way since they can make a lot of money at work, soapies are really busy these days wit guys. They'll meet up if they think that you are not going to get jealous easy and if they like you. Otherwise they aren't desperate all for that extra 1000 baht profit to be made from meeting up outside. It's much more dependent if they like you or not. But even then, they probably prefer to meet at their work because that is their time for working. I think if you can give them the idea that you won't meet them again at all unless it's outside of their work, then they have a reason to see you.
In summary: You'll certainly get more service, pops, longer time together (for a lower price) if they like you. Regardless of where you meet. And them liking you carries over to whether they meet outside of work or not. It really depends on them liking you more than offering them a littte extra money. Also, be aware that they may have a (jealous) Thai boyfriend who may very well become a problem, as it has happened in the past and will happen again. The hot ones a much more likely to have a boyfriend.
edit: just remembered something. If you have a nice looking place (well furnished, good/great view) they are much more likely to show up. And if you are young-ish and decent looking too. Because, they make all this dirty money in the soapies but their village/family doesn't know or understand it well. They need to meet guys who can pass for rich (or are) and bonus points if they are in shape and not too old. They'll want to take pics of them, you, both of you together in a selfie and maybe of your place. To show evidence of a sugar daddy, since there isn't any shame in that situation (back home) and they need a reason to explain all the soapy money that they made.Ah yes that makes sense.
I think I'm likable? LOL!
In regards to your list. I think I meet all the requirements? IE: nice place, young, decent looking, decent shape.
Fingers crossed.
If you pay 1700 THB for one hour with a girl in a private room of a BJ bar, the girl will not allow you to come multiple times. I tried several BJ bars, they were all the same.Thanks, I didn't know that. But when I was referring to BJ bars I didn't mean to go there for a multiple shot. A member advised that he could masturbate before hitting a soapy, I was meaning that a better option would be to go and get a BJ in a BJ bar instead.
I agree entirely with this perspective. You are paying her for a service to satisfy your needs not hers.Reminds me of the old joke: "How do you make a woman orgasm".
"Who cares?
As for my intent with P4 P. I'm actually not doing it much for the GFE. I actually WANT it to be a bit more mechanical / transactional. Not going to lie. Currently, paying for sex gives me a sense of "total control" that turns me on more than a GFE. I honestly don't think a GFE will ever be better for me until I meet "the one" meant for me. I know this approach differs from others here who enjoy GFE, but I'm more in the P4 P scene to simply satisfy the carnal need of sex rather than the emotional. Personally I consider GFE sex with a working gal to be the "type" of sex you have with a GF minus the emotional content. PSE is well, simply full on PSE sex. A series that is in its second season in one episode this year typifies what I would expect from a high dollar, ie 5 k Baht working girl. Check out episode 5 season 2 of The Girlfriend Experience. Anna to me is the epitome of what a high dollar gal should be. And truth be told, I have never had a wg come close in Thailand. But all of my Gfs in the US were exactly as such.
Good point Paolo and that is exactly what I did after landing in BKK.
I went to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and Kasalong around 10.45 to checkout.
[CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s has about 8 girls, 6 of them sitting outside in full makeup wearing cute school girl outfits. Kasalong was closed and I was told by a lady outside presumably the mamasan to come back in half hour.
So I just walked back to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s next door and chose a girl.
I expected BJ bar girls to be old and not that good looking, however there were a few in their 20's and a few in their late 20's and may be one in her 30's. I chose a good looking girl and though her face was pretty I later realized her body had too much baby damage when she took off her clothes, and she asked for tip to see that body. Sheesh. In hindsight I should have just had the BJ.
For 700 B standard fee, what you get is a dirty couch and a wrap around privacy screen. It is very similar to some of the sleazy strip clubs in US where girls give a BJ right in the couch.
The girl was very very good at it and for those few minutes I did not mind the below average ambience. The BJ was very sloppy with lots of attention to the balls. I asked for rimming and she said again "you tip me na " . I have her a thumbs up and man oh man, it was bliss! It was the first time I was getting rimmed for such a long time and it was unbelievably good. It was so good that I asked her to jerk me off while rimming. Trust me guys, please try it rather than the plain old CIM.
Now comes the bummer. After I finished with her saliva all over my groin and butt and thighs, I needed a shower and all I got was a few wipes. I told her I really needed a shower and she took me to a bad setup with no towel and oh boy I just wanted to run outside naked if I could. Had to improvise a bit but somehow cleaned up.
Anyways, paid the 700 B fee, have her 200 B tips and left the place wondering whether I will come back or not. The service was top notch, getting rimmed by a pretty girl at 11 am is an awesome feeling. But the setup was not up to par.
Would love to hear from regulars here, any other BJ bar with better ambiance and shower facilities?
Thanks, I didn't know that. But when I was referring to BJ bars I didn't mean to go there for a multiple shot. A member advised that he could masturbate before hitting a soapy, I was meaning that a better option would be to go and get a BJ in a BJ bar instead.
Good point Paolo and that is exactly what I did after landing in BKK.
I went to L0lita's and Kasalong around 10.45 to checkout.
L0lita's has about 8 girls, 6 of them sitting outside in full makeup wearing cute school girl outfits. Kasalong was closed and I was told by a lady outside presumably the mamasan to come back in half hour.
So I just walked back to L0lita's next door and chose a girl.
I expected BJ bar girls to be old and not that good looking, however there were a few in their 20's and a few in their late 20's and may be one in her 30's. I chose a good looking girl and though her face was pretty I later realized her body had too much baby damage when she took off her clothes, and she asked for tip to see that body. Sheesh. In hindsight I should have just had the BJ.
For 700 B standard fee, what you get is a dirty couch and a wrap around privacy screen. It is very similar to some of the sleazy strip clubs in US where girls give a BJ right in the couch.
The girl was very very good at it and for those few minutes I did not mind the below average ambience. The BJ was very sloppy with lots of attention to the balls. I asked for rimming and she said again "you tip me na " . I have her a thumbs up and man oh man, it was bliss! It was the first time I was getting rimmed for such a long time and it was unbelievably good. It was so good that I asked her to jerk me off while rimming. Trust me guys, please try it rather than the plain old CIM.
Now comes the bummer. After I finished with her saliva all over my groin and butt and thighs, I needed a shower and all I got was a few wipes. I told her I really needed a shower and she took me to a bad setup with no towel and oh boy I just wanted to run outside naked if I could. Had to improvise a bit but somehow cleaned up.
Anyways, paid the 700 B fee, have her 200 B tips and left the place wondering whether I will come back or not. The service was top notch, getting rimmed by a pretty girl at 11 am is an awesome feeling. But the setup was not up to par.
Would love to hear from regulars here, any other BJ bar with better ambiance and shower facilities?Your post being primarily a field report for your experience in a Bangkok BJ Bar after the opening statement referencing a post about having a quick one before going to a massage parlor, I suppose it should have been posted in the Bangkok Reports thread instead of here. But since it is here now, I will reply to it here. Is a BJ Bar considered a "Massage Parlor" on these forums? Not sure. But I didn't think so.
Anyway, the BJ Bar you chose, L0lita's (note the creative way I spelled it in order to get past the objectionable word/topic censor program on this site. I also had to change it in the quote of your post above as well in order to post this reply), probably has the most primitive and least comfortable and hygienic environment (IMO) of the better known BJ Bars in Bangkok. That curtain and bare bones booth in a communal room bit is so minimal and uncomfortable I am not sure I would ever go that route again. Other punters might prefer it. But when I go to L0lita's or any of the other BJ Bars now, I spend the extra 900-1000 baht and get one of their Short Time rooms, which is an actual room with a bed, a private bathroom with a shower, hot water, soap and a clean towel provided. And when you choose one of those ST rooms it is generally a given that you can spend more time with the girl, too, finishing with a FS instead of a BJ if you want. BTW, last time I used it, almost two years ago by now I think, even the ST room in L0lita's was possibly the grungiest among the better known BJ Bars in town.
As far as the small cubicles meant to only accommodate a BJ or, to be more specific, the small rooms without a bed or a private bathroom/shower where customers usually only opt for a BJ, I think you will find that most of the other better-known BJ Bars in Bangkok like Kasalong Bar, Som's Haven and Wood Bar (formerly Dr. BJ's Salon) have actual walled cubicles with actual doors that close and a wash basin in that cubicle or nearby. But that is not the case at L0lita's. Can't say each of those other places will have a fresh towel at the ready for a post-BJ cleanup at one of those wash basins, or hot water, or soap. So I suppose you might want to fold a few paper towels and stuff them in your pocket just in case.
An aside; lately I have touted the day shift at Kasalong Bar as having some of the best looking girls working at any BJ Bar around. But over the past 2-3 weeks, some of the better looking ones have gone missing. At least, lately I no longer see the best looking ones as I pass by the place during the daytime as I did previously. Don't know if they are on extended holiday, quit altogether or if it is a case where those better looking girls have been kept so busy they never have a chance to come back outside and take a seat before another customer is taking them back inside and upstairs. But I have not seen as many of those better looking girls working the day shift at Kasalong Bar as I did just a few weeks ago. Meanwhile, the line up in the day and night shift at L0lita's, yes, the place with the (IMO) grungiest and least comfortable set-up of any of the best known BJ Bars in town, has been showing a noticeable improvement in the looks department. That is, based solely on what I can see on the outside of their clothing as I pass by and not what I might see if they got naked.
UShobbyist
11-22-17, 22:26
Then you might as well take the one pop for 1400.For the time being, there is no 1400 THB for one hour FS in BJ bars. You probably refer to other sex acts in a BJ bar. Wood bar and Magic Table (right next to Wood bar) are 2000 THB for one hour FS in a private room. Som's Heaven, Lollipop1, Lolit's and Kasalong are 1700 THB for one hour FS in a private room.
For the time being, there is no 1400 THB for one hour FS in BJ bars. You probably refer to other sex acts in a BJ bar. Wood bar and Magic Table (right next to Wood bar) are 2000 THB for one hour FS in a private room. Som's Heaven, Lollipop1, Lolit's and Kasalong are 1700 THB for one hour FS in a private room.FS is only 1,200 at Som's Haven. I just fucked a girl there yesterday. I don't waste my time going up to the private room. I miss buttfucking the deaf girl on the couch. Wonder where she is now? Memories.
For the time being, there is no 1400 THB for one hour FS in BJ bars. You probably refer to other sex acts in a BJ bar. Wood bar and Magic Table (right next to Wood bar) are 2000 THB for one hour FS in a private room. Som's Heaven, Lollipop1, Lolit's and Kasalong are 1700 THB for one hour FS in a private room.1200-1400 for one pop at BJ bars. Not in the private room.
FS is only 1,200 at Som's Haven. I just fucked a girl there yesterday. I don't waste my time going up to the private room. I miss buttfucking the deaf girl on the couch. Wonder where she is now? Memories.Brilliant. Ah, memories. So any talent there now?
Couldn't sleep in the afternoon despite very tired after an overnight flight. The excitement was too much to overcome.
So took a meter taxi to Phrom Phong BTS and started exploring the MPs. Visited almost all on my list, Addict and 102 had the best looking girls outside but did not show much interest.
Plus I wanted A+ Service and I had already shortlisted New and Kiwi at Cherrys. So headed there and the mamasan was very helpful. The lineup was okay, 7 girls and Kiwi was there but New wasn't. Kiwi looked better and younger in person than the pictures on their website, they don't do her justice. She is chunky, but has a very inviting demeanor, a great smile and offered A+ as well. Up to the room, took shower together and got nice BBBJ. She was quite playful and asked whether I wanted massage first or boom boom.
I couldn't take my eyes of her booty so told her I wanted to fuck her ass straightaway. Her butthole was loose which was a disappointment but there was a mirror right next to the bed and watching that pretty face and jiggling ass was a delight and I couldn't hold much longer.
Asked her to get a beer and enjoyed massage for about 15-20 minutes which was quite good actually.
Gave her a 200 tip and paid the 1900 fee and left the place a happy man. This was my only MP visit in BKK and a memorable one, thanks to the excellent service.
Eric Swiss
11-23-17, 09:27
An aside; lately I have touted the day shift at Kasalong Bar as having some of the best looking girls working at any BJ Bar around. But over the past 2-3 weeks, some of the better looking ones have gone missing. At least, lately I no longer see the best looking ones as I pass by the place during the daytime as I did previously. Don't know if they are on extended holiday, quit altogether or if it is a case where those better looking girls have been kept so busy they never have a chance to come back outside and take a seat before another customer is taking them back inside and upstairs. But I have not seen as many of those better looking girls working the day shift at Kasalong Bar as I did just a few weeks ago.I've been to Kasalong last week and picked up a cutie in full daytime named Min. Only downside was she wore braces, but given where her mouth was most of the time, I didn't get to see much of them. She was pretty skinny and wore nice lingerie underneath her uniform. I liked the couch setup, where she basically kneels next to me, as opposed to Dr. BJ's where she's in front trying to make eye contact. I felt the facilities at Kasalong were decent, certainly better than the L0 litta's description we just read. Damage was 800.
Crocodilexp
11-24-17, 00:24
I've been to Kasalong last week and picked up a cutie in full daytime named Min.Speaking of Kasalong, they have a new staff member. Nan, IMHO the best performer at Star of Light, has switched to Kasalong. Bit unfortunate, since I really liked her doing it out in the open at the bar, and Kasalong doesn't offer that option.
Crazy4Thai
11-24-17, 03:28
Speaking of Kasalong, they have a new staff member. Nan, IMHO the best performer at Star of Light, has switched to Kasalong. Bit unfortunate, since I really liked her doing it out in the open at the bar, and Kasalong doesn't offer that option.As referenced recently with a L0 lita's provider, some of the BJ girls rim. Does Nan?
Brilliant. Ah, memories. So any talent there now?The fat chick there at Som's Haven is a queen deepthroater. Horrible to look at though. I only pick her when I really need some throat. I don't know her name but she's the biggest and fattest one there. True deepthroaters are hard to find these days, even harder if you want the chick to be hot. There is no one there close to the level of service of the deaf girl from before. She was just completely submissive, gave great BJs and loved being assfucked.
There is a girl at Kasalong that I like as well. Her BJ is sub par but I pick her just because she is cute and I love watching her ass gape open when I rim her. Also, don't know her name.
Som at 7th Heaven gave me a surprisingly deep slurpjob before. Someone trained her well.
As referenced recently with a L0 lita's provider, some of the BJ girls rim. Does Nan?Sooooo many girls rim at the BJ bars. I was rimmed nearly everytime I went to a BJ bar this month. There was only one girl at Som's Haven who did not rim me. She also won't let me rim her. Everyone else provided willingly. Didn't even ask. I've been to SOL, Lulitas, Som's and Kasalong this month.
The fat chick there at Som's Haven is a queen deepthroater. Horrible to look at though. I only pick her when I really need some throat. I don't know her name but she's the biggest and fattest one there. True deepthroaters are hard to find these days, even harder if you want the chick to be hot. There is no one there close to the level of service of the deaf girl from before. She was just completely submissive, gave great BJs and loved being assfucked.
There is a girl at Kasalong that I like as well. Her BJ is sub par but I pick her just because she is cute and I love watching her ass gape open when I rim her. Also, don't know her name.
Som at 7th Heaven gave me a surprisingly deep slurpjob before. Someone trained her well.Headed upstairs the other day at Kasalong with who might have been Min, braces and dyed blonds hair. When we got to the room and I tried to DFK, she refused. Also told me that none of the gals there liked to DFK. Kind of a deal killer for me, so I told her thanks but no thanks and left. Guess I need to try some gals at Som's.
Crocodilexp
11-24-17, 10:18
As referenced recently with a L0 lita's provider, some of the BJ girls rim. Does Nan?
Yes. Rimming, DFK (not necessarily in that order), takes it fairly deep (though not necessarily DT), and slurps nicely. She's friendly and takes her time. Told me she does some naughtier stuff as well (like g**den showers) if you're into that, ask (I'm not). She's manages to be super-naughty and friendly GFE at the same time.
Yes will most likely be negotiating for a 2nd pop IF I feel I can muster it. And no shame here. Admittedly, if the girl is smokin' hot, it will definitely be hard to contain my excitement & I don't mind letting her know that.
As for my intent with P4P. I'm actually not doing it much for the GFE. I actually WANT it to be a bit more mechanical / transactional. Not going to lie. Currently, paying for sex gives me a sense of "total control" that turns me on more than a GFE. I honestly don't think a GFE will ever be better for me until I meet "the one" meant for me. I know this approach differs from others here who enjoy GFE, but I'm more in the P4 P scene to simply satisfy the carnal need of sex rather than the emotional. (for now at least)....
I think it's important to clarify what "total control" means in this situation.
I also feel much more confident and in control, when I pay the lady, and she accepts my money. But this control isn't over the girl. This control is over my own feelings.
Because when I pay the lady as much as she asks, and she accepts my money, then this formal transaction is also formal consent. She agrees to have sex with me in a reasonable way. Her consent is like a promise that she won't change her mind, and she will let me do it with her from start to finish, as long as I do it with her in a reasonable way and don't hurt her in any way.
And you don't have any strong consent like this in a normal situation, where the lady is doing it for free and there is no transaction. Her consent is much more uncertain. She gives you no promise that she won't end it on a whim, without a good reason. And that's what often makes guys feel insecure in this kind of a situation. Which makes sex with the lady less enjoyable.
There is a big difference between doing it with the lady, when you feel sure and secure and when you feel uncertain and insecure. The first is much more enjoyable than the second.
When the lady has fully and truly consented with you, then you can be reasonably sure that she won't change her mind, unless you do something seriously wrong. And this enables you to relax and fully enjoy your sex with this lady, without any worries.
And for me, this is actually what GFE is all about. When I feel secure with the lady, and I enjoy it with her, then this is the GFE experience for me.
Because this is the kind of experience I would have with an ideal girlfriend, who is very nice with me, and who doesn't give me any reason to feel insecure and anxious with her. Which is possible, but not very common. Quite often couples have arguments, disagreements, and tensions, which make one or both feel unsure and insecure with each other.
Headed upstairs the other day at Kasalong with who might have been Min, braces and dyed blonds hair. When we got to the room and I tried to DFK, she refused. Also told me that none of the gals there liked to DFK. Kind of a deal killer for me, so I told her thanks but no thanks and left. Guess I need to try some gals at Som's.Min is cute sometimes but her BJ is garbage and her attitude is suspect. Even though she is young, her face without makeup is ghastly. Stopped picking her a long time ago. Lulitas has a better lineup these days, but admittedly worse facilities.
Franciscass
11-24-17, 11:38
The PSE comes as an advertised package and in its truest incarnation encompasses most or all of whatever sexual experience the customer wants to indulge in. Its hardcore sex, plain and simple and its real.
The GFE is the girl pretending to enjoy kissing and cuddling. It's not real it's a fantasy trip for the punter. Kissing and cuddling are nice, I enjoy them particularly with working girls who are naturally affectionate and yes there are some still out there but I don't delude myself, well OK maybe for a minute or two on occasion. But even then I know it's not real, it's a million miles removed from the feelings I have when making love with a real girlfriend and not somebody I'm paying to be with.
I chat a lot with the girls about customers and you know the hardest part of the job for them is the kissing which is why a lot are not into it. There was a comment recently from somebody who visited Kasalong BJ bar that when he tried to kiss her she refused saying none of the girls at the shop kissed. Strange they will suck your dick take your cum in their mouth but cannot abide touching your lips. Strange world we monger through.
Sooooo many girls rim at the BJ bars. I was rimmed nearly everytime I went to a BJ bar this month. There was only one girl at Som's Haven who did not rim me. She also won't let me rim her. Everyone else provided willingly. Didn't even ask. I've been to SOL, Lulitas, Som's and Kasalong this month.Do they clean your ass before rimming or do they rim you straight during the BJ? I know in oilies the girls that rim take some time washing our ass during the shower but never experienced any rimming in BJ bars.
Do they clean your ass before rimming or do they rim you straight during the BJ? I know in oilies the girls that rim take some time washing our ass during the shower but never experienced any rimming in BJ bars.I clean my own ass beforehand if I'm in the mood for rimming. I do know one girl that doesn't like me to wash before. She likes the musky, natural smell.
I clean my own ass beforehand if I'm in the mood for rimming. I do know one girl that doesn't like me to wash before. She likes the musky, natural smell.Ah, a gal with a truly dirty mind and appetites like that is one of life's true treasures!
Ah, a gal with a truly dirty mind and appetites like that is one of life's true treasures!Yep. The girls are just as dirty as we are.
Crocodilexp
11-24-17, 19:29
The GFE is the girl pretending to enjoy kissing and cuddling. It's not real it's a fantasy trip for the punter. Kissing and cuddling are nice, I enjoy them particularly with working girls who are naturally affectionate and yes there are some still out there but I don't delude myself, well OK maybe for a minute or two on occasion. But even then I know it's not real, it's a million miles removed from the feelings I have when making love with a real girlfriend and not somebody I'm paying to be with.What is "real", anyway? Sure, you won't experience profound love during a session with a working girl, but I don't with 90% of my "real girlfriends" either so far.
There's huge difference between a GFE-style service, where the girl gives out the vibe (real or well-acted) of actually wanting to be with you (plus get the money), compared to a arm's length (or should we say, dick's length) mechanical service, where the girl does nothing to hide the fact that she'd rather grab your money and kick you out as soon as possible if she only could.
One of the main attractions of Thailand's working girls used to be that they gave off the GFE vibe of being at least somewhat happy to spend time with you, unlike most working girls elsewhere who often don't do much to hide their disdain or sometimes even disgust for the customer (or if they briefly attempt to hide it, aren't very convincing). The former is not a fantasy or a myth, but a real, and essential, part of the experience, whose absence is blatantly obvious.
Some of the exceptionally talented girls (like Ying from Tulip), even manage to make most punters feel somewhat special and having a connection with her, despite knowing that 3 other dicks have been through those 3 holes earlier in the day.
I don't think GFE boils down to mouth kissing only. It's usually an important element, I've had borderline GFE sessions with girls that didn't do much DFK or none at all. They have a right to their boundaries and peculiarities, as long as they create the proper vibe of being happy to be with you and generally strive to please, and are subtle about steering you away from the few things they dislike.
Headed upstairs the other day at Kasalong with who might have been Min, braces and dyed blonds hair. When we got to the room and I tried to DFK, she refused. Also told me that none of the gals there liked to DFK. Kind of a deal killer for me, so I told her thanks but no thanks and left. Guess I need to try some gals at Som's.Just wanted to mention these latest reports about a "Min" at Kasalong furthers my feeling that there is a different girl with that name working there now than the Minh I have known and seen working the day shift there for a few years. The lovely Minh I know is not a blonde, does not wear braces as far as I know and never would have needed them (unless it is a fashion decision she has made for some reason). And, although she might use some make up to smooth over an imperfect complexion, there is no way her basic facial features without make up would be seen as "ghastly". LOL.
Also, the Minh I have been with was not so resistant to at least a moderate version of DFK and gave a perfectly decent BJ, always being very responsive to my requests to slow down, do it more like this, less like that or whatever. Which, in reality, should put her BJ among the better ones in an environment where many girls are utterly incapable or unwilling to adjust.
In fact, the Minh I know is one of the better looking day shift girls at Kasalong who I have no longer seen sitting outside for the past 2-3 weeks, as I mentioned earlier.
Of course, girls can change their looks, performace level and demeanor over time and maybe this blonde, braces wearing, "ghastly" looking without make up, non accommodating girl named Min at Kasalong is the same girl I knew as Minh over the past few years. Which would be too bad indeed.
Just wanted to mention these latest reports about a "Min" at Kasalong furthers my feeling that there is a different girl with that name working there now than the Minh I have known and seen working the day shift there for a few years. The lovely Minh I know is not a blonde, does not wear braces as far as I know and never would have needed them (unless it is a fashion decision she has made for some reason). And, although she might use some make up to smooth over an imperfect complexion, there is no way her basic facial features without make up would be seen as "ghastly". LOL.
Also, the Minh I have been with was not so resistant to at least a moderate version of DFK and gave a perfectly decent BJ, always being very responsive to my requests to slow down, do it more like this, less like that or whatever. Which, in reality, should put her BJ among the better ones in an environment where many girls are utterly incapable or unwilling to adjust.
In fact, the Minh I know is one of the better looking day shift girls at Kasalong who I have no longer seen sitting outside for the past 2-3 weeks, as I mentioned earlier.
Of course, girls can change their looks, performace level and demeanor over time and maybe this blonde, braces wearing, "ghastly" looking without make up, non accommodating girl named Min at Kasalong is the same girl I knew as Minh over the past few years. Which would be too bad indeed.Same girl. She added braces a while back. She changed her hair color recently to a blondish-orange color. She also became colder recently. Her face is riddled with acne. I've seen her with no makeup and she is definitely looked ghastly for her age but she's not ghastly in an old hag sense. LOL. I have done it all with her in the past and she was always subpar in the skills department.
All of that aside, I stopped picking her because there are cuter girls that give better BJs for the same or lower price.
Crazy4Thai
11-25-17, 04:10
Sooooo many girls rim at the BJ bars. I was rimmed nearly everytime I went to a BJ bar this month. There was only one girl at Som's Haven who did not rim me. She also won't let me rim her. Everyone else provided willingly. Didn't even ask. I've been to SOL, Lulitas, Som's and Kasalong this month.Yeah, I understand the basics, believe me. I was asking about Nan and thanks GS for the specific answer. My success rate on this topic at BJ bars is about 50%. In fact at Som's Haven about 2 years ago, when I inquired quietly with my intended provider she announced it loudly to all the girls to ridicule me. Agreeing if I paid 10,000 baht. Really it's good of you to answer and I value the specifics in reporting, not the generalities that are so prevalent here.
Crazy4Thai
11-25-17, 04:22
I made a note to get with My at SW after a report that described her "beautiful pussy" and skills at rimming. She says she is 27. Her body is all natural with a round ass (like a birthday cake, as I like to say) and small boobs with nice pink nipples. Like a 21 year old and with no baby damage. Her pussy is indeed as described. Well formed with big lips, tight and naturally wet after DATY which she really liked. She took direction well and slowed her roll as I asked. She was pleasant but in a more artificial way than most in the oilies. She also refused the pleasure of my small, 3 inch small, vibrator. Other ladies want me to give it too them as a gift after they enjoy it. She made it a point that she does not do anal which I do not either. And for the big test of just how good was she, would I repeat? Only if I thought a repeat would make it better than the first time. Oh, and she showed the tiniest frown when her tip was only 200. I tip 500 for an amazing session and this was more like a training session. So it was 1,900 baht at the counter plus tip.
What is "real", anyway? Sure, you won't experience profound love during a session with a working girl, but I don't with 90% of my "real girlfriends" either so far.
There's huge difference between a GFE-style service, where the girl gives out the vibe (real or well-acted) of actually wanting to be with you (plus get the money), compared to a arm's length (or should we say, dick's length) mechanical service, where the girl does nothing to hide the fact that she'd rather grab your money and kick you out as soon as possible if she only could.
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I don't think GFE boils down to mouth kissing only. It's usually an important element, I've had borderline GFE sessions with girls that didn't do much DFK or none at all. They have a right to their boundaries and peculiarities, as long as they create the proper vibe of being happy to be with you and generally strive to please, and are subtle about steering you away from the few things they dislike.Yes I am agreeing. The meaning of GFE, is really easy for me. It means that the Sexual experience is equally as good or better than what you might have got from a real Girlfriend, for apparent enthusiasm, tolerance of our behaviour, etc.
It is nothing to do with "being in love" but everything to do with being lustful. One of my regulars indicates she does not love me but likes my dick, and tongue. We all know we can have a great sex experience with a girl that we just met, and certainly are not in love with. So I have no clue why the "love" thing ever gets mentioned here. It is quite irrelevant to sex.
Since DFK is usually an essential part of an experience with a GF, unless she has some mouth problem, then DFK is normally an essential component of a GFE. One of my regular girls is very kissy. She initiates the DFK much more than I do. I doubt she would be so full on with it, if she did not really like it. However it could be calculated to give me best service since she knows I also like it. She is certainly giving as much DFK and as good as a regular GF. She also seems to love getting a good DATY, perhaps does not get a good one often (I don't know). She never seems to have a great deal of difficulty to get to an orgasm. So seems to be a horny girl. No BF as far as I know. So I rate the experience with her as GFE, as she is as good as any GF I ever had and more skilled than most GFs I ever had. She is very tolerant If I happen to be slow to cum. I don't really find she has any specific weaknesses. She may have major weaknesses for others, depending on what they want. I don't know if she would be happy to provide CIM, or anal, etc. I never requested any of these. I also never had a GF that liked to do those things, to my knowledge. I regard those things as being special "services" rather than being part of a GFE. Girls do extra things for money.
Clearly what guys expect from a GFE can vary, but it should be mostly about attitude and being prepared to try to give the normal type of partner a really good time with things that are fairly standard for GFs.
Day 1.
Soapy. The Lord.
Time - 7 pm.
-90% of customers were of asian.
-Quite a few smoking hot girls.
I started off with having a beer while I let my eyes absorb all the eye candy at center stage.
If you're like me. Very picky, then my god do NOT go with the mamasan's recommendation.
Like most people have already posted, Mamasan was pushing a less attractive girl while advocating that she was young.
I'm not quite sure if this was because I'm young?? Or she was just pushing a girl that isn't as popular.
After about 15 min of relaxing & perusing, I selected a tier O girl. (Forgot the name and exact number).
Height - 155 cm.
Weight / figure. Tight / slim / fit (less than 100 lb for sure I think).
Face - 8/10.
Tits - 10/10 (very sizable / perky / NATURAL).
Ass - 8/10 (she's petite so yea).
Pussy - 7/10 (bushy, not super tight).
Overall body - 9/10 (petite, fit, milky soft skin, couldn't find a single blemish).
Personality - 10/10 (but then again she was with me: P).
Service - 10/10.
Damage - 5,100 baht + 400 for 2 beers (1 for me 1 for her).
Pretty standard session / nothing out of the ordinary.
Eased into the session with about 10 min of chatting & light touching just to get the girl more comfortable with me.
Language barrier was an issue so thank god for google translate.
We then moved on to the actual soapy massage where I got to feel up her fine / tight body. My god was I rock hard at that point.
Next, rinsed off & moved over to the bed for a BBBJ. She was very attentive to both balls & shaft.
Lastly, started cowgirl - mish - finished doggy. (She initiated some hot DFK as well).
Favorite was definitely doggy. Hard / rough doggy at that too :).
To my own pleasant surprise. I lasted a lot longer than what I had anticipated.
Ended up with 15-20 min left after finishing. We chatted a little bit more while she gave me a massage & her LINE.
I asked her if she was free outside of working hours but she strongly advocated she was NOT and only available during soapy hours.
*SIDE NOTE*.
As I have mentioned before. I'm considerably younger than most other clientele in this hobby.
I'm a 26 why / o, american asian, relatively good looking & good shape. (Could pass for younger).
I bring this up again not for the purpose of boasting my youth but as to preface some advice for other younger mongers such as myself.
The moment I walked into The Lord, I was treated differently. At first it was great. Lots of attention from female service staff & LOTS of smiles & eye contact with pretty soapy girls. (Giggly atmosphere).
However, it wasn't until after about 10 min that I had realized my youth had 1 downside. I got the vibe that the staff were 50% not taking me seriously.
I wouldn't be surprised if they saw me and thought (young, newbie?, why is he here?, etc.).
The most sound piece of advice I can give other young mongers is. Confidence.
I know that sounds cliche but to elaborate, I don't mean cocky / arrogant.
I was dressed nicely / stylish, I acted mature & respectful, & I did my homework.
Knowing what you're looking for & what the place has to offer will go a long way.
The ONE mistake I made that I won't ever be making again. Don't PAY WITH CREDIT CARD. The exchange rate they offer is bad.
Don't ask me why I made that decision as I had the cash. Maybe it was the hot little thang on my arm dropping my IQ to -100 haha.
*Conclusion*.
No complaints about The Lord. Will be going back again within my 5 night stay.
Hopefully my review will be helpful to some. Will definitely be posting more.
CHEERS.
Same girl. She added braces a while back. She changed her hair color recently to a blondish-orange color. She also became colder recently. Her face is riddled with acne. I've seen her with no makeup and she is definitely looked ghastly for her age but she's not ghastly in an old hag sense. LOL. I have done it all with her in the past and she was always subpar in the skills department.
All of that aside, I stopped picking her because there are cuter girls that give better BJs for the same or lower price.Then I will bow to your more recent up close and personal experience with her that she is the same girl. It has been at least a year since I have been with her but have seen her sitting outside often. Come to think of it, I have seen a bleached blonde with that whitish powder make up and too red lipstick sitting out there lately. And that did make her look "ghastly", if it is the same Minh. LOL.
I made a note to get with My at SW after a report that described her "beautiful pussy" and skills at rimming. She says she is 27. Her body is all natural with a round ass (like a birthday cake, as I like to say) and small boobs with nice pink nipples. Like a 21 year old and with no baby damage. Her pussy is indeed as described. Well formed with big lips, tight and naturally wet after DATY which she really liked. She took direction well and slowed her roll as I asked. She was pleasant but in a more artificial way than most in the oilies. She also refused the pleasure of my small, 3 inch small, vibrator. Other ladies want me to give it too them as a gift after they enjoy it. She made it a point that she does not do anal which I do not either. And for the big test of just how good was she, would I repeat? Only if I thought a repeat would make it better than the first time. Oh, and she showed the tiniest frown when her tip was only 200. I tip 500 for an amazing session and this was more like a training session. So it was 1,900 baht at the counter plus tip.Yep, that is about how my only session went with her and even though she has a beautiful snatch; I never repeated.
Franciscass
11-25-17, 08:30
I used to be confused now I'm not so sure anymore.
Seems a GFE need not include kissing but just be a feeling that the girl is happy to be with you. OK going with that without knowing it now 90% of my paid for sessions were GFE'S unlike my previous belief none were as they lacked the genuine intimacy I felt with real girlfriends.
Seems from some member's posts sex with working girls is better than sex with ex or currant girlfriends not just in their skill set but in conveying a feeling that they are really enjoying being with them.
I'm fortunate to have had a lot of both in my life and while its sure not a black and white situation I remember very little of my P4P experiences but have the fondest memories of endless hours in bed with true girlfriends. I was in love with some but not all of them. This is where my definition of GFE comes from.
Anyway thing is, if you've had a good time tip the girl well and I'm pretty sure she doesn't give a hoot what you want to call what just happened.
The PSE comes as an advertised package and in its truest incarnation encompasses most or all of whatever sexual experience the customer wants to indulge in. Its hardcore sex, plain and simple and its real.
The GFE is the girl pretending to enjoy kissing and cuddling. It's not real it's a fantasy trip for the punter. Kissing and cuddling are nice, I enjoy them particularly with working girls who are naturally affectionate and yes there are some still out there but I don't delude myself, well OK maybe for a minute or two on occasion. But even then I know it's not real, it's a million miles removed from the feelings I have when making love with a real girlfriend and not somebody I'm paying to be with.
I chat a lot with the girls about customers and you know the hardest part of the job for them is the kissing which is why a lot are not into it. There was a comment recently from somebody who visited Kasalong BJ bar that when he tried to kiss her she refused saying none of the girls at the shop kissed. Strange they will suck your dick take your cum in their mouth but cannot abide touching your lips. Strange world we monger through.There is a saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And the same can be said about GFE and PSE. Because you decide how to treat the lady. It's not something that happens on its own.
GFE doesn't necessarily mean a good experience with the lady, at least not in real life. Because you can find plenty of girlfriends and boyfriends who fight with each other and don't treat each other well. And of course, you can also find plenty of girlfriends and boyfriends who are really nice and affectionate with each other.
It's not how nice and affectionate the lady is with you that decides whether you have a GFE experience or not. Because you can have a girlfriend, who doesn't treat you well.
It's you who decide how to treat the lady. And of course, the lady also decides how to respond to you.
I found from my experience with P4P ladies that being friendly and affectionate with the lady as though she is my girlfriend or my wife usually gets a similar response from her.
The only thing you need to take into account is cultural differences. Because kissing, for example, is common in western countries. But in Thailand, most people don't do it. It's a foreign cultural practice for them, and many Thai ladies are uncomfortable with it, regardless of whether it is a P4P type of situation or normal romance.
What is "real", anyway? ....
Some of the exceptionally talented girls (like Ying from Tulip), even manage to make most punters feel somewhat special and having a connection with her, despite knowing that 3 other dicks have been through those 3 holes earlier in the day....I can say for myself that I can really like several women at the same time and have sex with all of them, one after the other. Liking one woman doesn't stop me from liking other women too.
So, why is it so hard to believe that a P4P lady can feel the same way about multiple guys?
I've heard about double-standards, but they never made sense to me. If I can like several women and really enjoy having sex with all of them, then so can a lady with multiple guys.
There is no good reason to say that your liking is real, but the lady must be acting and faking.
....I got the vibe that the staff were 50% not taking me seriously. ...
The ONE mistake I made that I won't ever be making again. Don't PAY WITH CREDIT CARD. The exchange rate they offer is bad....
I think it's normal for some ladies to start losing their interest in you, after you spend some time in the lobby looking at all the ladies.
Because it's not only you who is picking a lady. The ladies are also picking guys in their own way.
When you look at all the ladies, then you naturally look at some ladies longer than at others. Which gives them all a clue which ladies you are interested in. Then one of the ladies, that you are interested in, starts making a lot of eye-contact with you. While the other ladies either look away or show less interest in you. And that's what makes you pick your lady and go with her.
When you have too many choices, then it can be so hard to decide, that you might not decide at all. You might walk out of the door to think about it some more.
The ladies know this from their experience. And that's why they cooperate with each other to decrease your choice enough for you to pick one of them. They stop competing with each other for your attention, when they see that you are interested in one of them more than in others.
And using a credit card probably leaves a permanent financial record that you've been at this place on certain date and how much money you've paid. And this record isn't just for the bank. Some spy agencies from the US government probably have access to it too.
It's just a computer record, that they can look up, if they want to. But it might come in handy for them in the future, if they want something from you that you don't want to give, such as pleading guilty to some crime, for example, even if you didn't do it.
They can pull out your record of being at this place and threaten to show it to your wife or your girlfriend. This is a normal practice for police and prosecutors. They dig up any kind of dirt on you they can find and use it to get your cooperation. That's how they get so many accused to plead guilty, without going to trial.
That's why it's not a good idea to use a credit card or a debit card for a service that's illegal in the place where you live. This kind of information can be used to spoil your reputation and blackmail you into doing things that you normally might not want to do.
Day 1.
Soapy. The Lord.
Time - 7 pm.
-90% of customers were of asian.
-Quite a few smoking hot girls.
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No complaints about The Lord. Will be going back again within my 5 night stay.
Hopefully my review will be helpful to some. Will definitely be posting more.
CHEERS.Very well written review. I'm 34 myself but started mongering when I was 26. And started going to Thailand when I was 28.
Member #4698
11-25-17, 14:24
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The ONE mistake I made that I won't ever be making again. Don't PAY WITH CREDIT CARD. The exchange rate they offer is bad.
Don't ask me why I made that decision as I had the cash. Maybe it was the hot little thang on my arm dropping my IQ to -100 haha.
*Conclusion*.
No complaints about The Lord. Will be going back again within my 5 night stay.
Hopefully my review will be helpful to some. Will definitely be posting more.
CHEERS.Good report Phazze93. I like the Lord too. It is my favorite soapy in BKK.
When you elect to pay with credit card you have the option of being charged in local currency or dollars. ALWAYS SELECT THE LOCAL CURRENCY. THE EXCHANGE RATE IS THEN CALCULATED BY THE CURRENT INTER-BANK RATE AND IS THEREFORE EXTREMLY GOOD. Be sure to use a credit card that does not charge an FX transaction fee.
I read another BM's comments about the loss of privacy concerning the use of credit cards. I hope this does not start a 2 week discussion on the subject, but I always use credit cards in soapies, oilies, saunas, G-Clubs, nightclubs, and even in Go Go's when I run up a significant tab. I am not married, I am self employed, and I am not planning on running for Congress, so the government can kiss my ass. I will spend my money anyway I want. Besides, there is no real privacy in the modern age. Privacy is an illusion.
I have'nt been to Thailand since 2015. For those who have been to both how does the Lord compare to Nataree?
Member #4698
11-25-17, 15:08
I have'nt been to Thailand since 2015. For those who have been to both how does the Lord compare to Nataree?They were at opposite ends of the spectrum. I liked Nataree too, for their young Northern Thai girls and for the most part the simple straight forward Thai boy / Thai girl sex they provided. But in terms of service and opulence, the Lord was/is vastly superior and Lord girls were/are generally a few years older, more refined in appearance, and much more raunchy in bed thanks to their being much better trained and managed as sexual providers. Nataree was a pussy meat market. The Lord is a palace. LOL.
Nataree has been closed for a couple of years now. I occasionally miss the joint. The Lord is my favorite soapy in BKK.
Good report Phazze93. I like the Lord too. It is my favorite soapy in BKK.
When you elect to pay with credit card you have the option of being charged in local currency or dollars. ALWAYS SELECT THE LOCAL CURRENCY. THE EXCHANGE RATE IS THEN CALCULATED BY THE CURRENT INTER-BANK RATE AND IS THEREFORE EXTREMLY GOOD. Be sure to use a credit card that does not charge an FX transaction fee.
I read another BM's comments about the loss of privacy concerning the use of credit cards. I hope this does not start a 2 week discussion on the subject, but I always use credit cards in soapies, oilies, saunas, G-Clubs, nightclubs, and even in Go Go's when I run up a significant tab. I am not married, I am self employed, and I am not planning on running for Congress, so the government can kiss my ass. I will spend my money anyway I want. Besides, there is no real privacy in the modern age. Privacy is an illusion.Yea I don't quite understand the harm in using a credit card.
As far as foreign exchange rate goes. It seems everyone & every place in Thailand tries to pull that shit.
I have ALWAYS declined foreign exchange rate and elected to pay in BAHT.
The reason I did not notice it at The Lord. Is that they never ASKED LOL! Next time if I do elect to pay w / CC, I will insist to pay in baht.
I also don't live in Thailand so I'm not overly concerned.
I have'nt been to Thailand since 2015. For those who have been to both how does the Lord compare to Nataree?Never been to Nataree, but the Lord is probably the best after my rounds tonight.
I just visited Poseidon & Emmanuelle and still wound up back at The Lord.
Poseidon. What a joke. Their girls were just low grade. No offense to the girls obviously. Their 3rd floor "models" Hell naw.
Emmanuelle. Overall quality of girls was better than Poseidon but still a bit too old for my taste.
I am going to post my 2nd review of The Lord later. Once I recover from getting my soul pulled out from the tip of my cock haha.
I think it's normal for some ladies to start losing their interest in you, after you spend some time in the lobby looking at all the ladies.
Because it's not only you who is picking a lady. The ladies are also picking guys in their own way.
When you look at all the ladies, then you naturally look at some ladies longer than at others. Which gives them all a clue which ladies you are interested in. Then one of the ladies, that you are interested in, starts making a lot of eye-contact with you. While the other ladies either look away or show less interest in you. And that's what makes you pick your lady and go with her.
When you have too many choices, then it can be so hard to decide, that you might not decide at all. You might walk out of the door to think about it some more.
Totally get your point & I would understand that perspective if I had sat there pondering for a long time. But the "not taking me seriously" vibe was more like "oh this kid is too young hes probably just here to look & not serious about booking a girl" type of vibe. But I went back today. And I'm pretty sure they recognized me so no more weird shit this time around.
SHOUT OUT to my Japanese homie whom I met at The Lord. If you're reading this man I really owe you & if I see you again, I got the next round. You know who you are.
I had planned for Emmanuelle & did not end up bringing enough cash for K class at the Lord & forgot my CC as well. Guy spotted me 1 k baht, saved my night!
Day 2.
Soapy. The Lord.
Time - 6:30 pm.
-90% of customers were of asian again LOL.
-Different lineup than the night before. Fewer "asian" beauties.
I had just come from Emmanuelle and Poseidon. Both were a bust - janky ass lookin lineups. (for my taste)
Same as before, I started with a beer while resting & taking in the sights.
This time, no mamasan to bother me. I took my sweet time walking around and smiling at the girls.
After making the rounds, I selected this cute thing from K tier.
Age - 20 y/o (could have passed for younger).
Height - <160 cm? (petite).
Weight / figure. Tight / slim / fit (less than 100 lb for sure I think).
Face - 8. 5/10 (more cute / pretty, not typical "sexy" face).
Tits - 8/10 (modest size / perky / NATURAL).
Ass - 8/10 (she's petite so yea).
Pussy - 10/10 (some fuzz, not too hairy. But we talkin BAD pussy! Tight & juicy haha).
Overall body - 8. 5/10 (petite, slightly more tan, MINOR stretch marks on ass, minimal body fat).
Personality - 7/10 (a bit more shy / not as chatty).
Service - 9/10. (knocked a point down off for personality).
Damage - 6,100 baht + 200 for 1 beers.
Where do I start? She wasn't as personable as the girl from the night before. But per my previous post, this girl performed an exorcism on me LOL.
She had one GRADE A,THAI-DA (USDA joke) pussy. Supple, tight but not too tight. Embraced my cock like god had found me.
Typical beginning of session. A little chatting & soapy massage.
To the bed! (Where part of my soul still lies).
Started with cowgirl, up & down like a amusement park ride. Subtle ass to thigh clap clap CLAP. That was when I decided to start my own religion. "Pussy-ianity".
Changed to mish for a hot second & moved onto the doggy.
I believe riding her from behind dropped my IQ to caveman status. Fuck was that hot as hell as I pounded away at that sweet little thing.
Not sure what's happened to me but perhaps this trip to Thailand has gotten rid of my problem of finishing too early HAHA. Have fucked like a champ w/ cum on command ability.
Finished with about 20 min to spare, cleaned up and headed out.
Conclusion.
I'm unsure if I even want to consider going to other soapies now. The Lord has spoiled me rotten!
After having been let down by Emmanuelle & Poseidon, don't know if others are worth considering. Would appreciate any thoughts?
In all honesty, not to give off the wrong impression. I use a lot of "ungraceful" terms in my post simply as an easy means of primal expression!
I am glad that I can enjoy these experiences while still treating these ladies with respect & common decency.
CHEERS! Not looking forward to leaving Bangkok... 3 more nights to go. More reviews to come. (Also have been posting GOGO reviews on General Bangkok Reports)
....Not sure what's happened to me but perhaps this trip to Thailand has gotten rid of my problem of finishing too early HAHA. Have fucked like a champ w/ cum on command ability.
Finished with about 20 min to spare, cleaned up and headed out....
I think you need to give the ladies some credit for making it a better experience for you.
People usually learn from their experience and become good at what they do, when they do it a lot. And that's how it is with many Thai P4P ladies.
These ladies know how to relax a guy and make him feel comfortable with them. And it's not just about them knowing how to act with a guy. I can say from my own experience of doing many ladies, that after a while, I started liking a much wider range of looks in ladies, than I did before. The same probably happens with ladies who have sex with many different guys.
I think having sex with many guys changes how these ladies feel about guys. They probably become a lot less choosy than normal in the kind of guys they like and enjoy being with. Which means that your Thai lady probably isn't acting with you, when she shows some liking for you. She just has learned to like guys like you, and she is being sincere with you. And that's why it works so well with you.
Good report Phazze93. I like the Lord too. It is my favorite soapy in BKK.
When you elect to pay with credit card you have the option of being charged in local currency or dollars. ALWAYS SELECT THE LOCAL CURRENCY. THE EXCHANGE RATE IS THEN CALCULATED BY THE CURRENT INTER-BANK RATE AND IS THEREFORE EXTREMLY GOOD. Be sure to use a credit card that does not charge an FX transaction fee.
I read another BM's comments about the loss of privacy concerning the use of credit cards. I hope this does not start a 2 week discussion on the subject, but I always use credit cards in soapies, oilies, saunas, G-Clubs, nightclubs, and even in Go Go's when I run up a significant tab. I am not married, I am self employed, and I am not planning on running for Congress, so the government can kiss my ass. I will spend my money anyway I want. Besides, there is no real privacy in the modern age. Privacy is an illusion.I once used my credit card at cupidity (the soapy that is more or less a rip-off joint that taxi drivers like to take people too). What was strange was that they never charged me, but I paid in baht too (1500 baht). A few months later, credit card # was stolen and 1000 left my bank account (refunded by my bank, but still a hastle).
They were at opposite ends of the spectrum. I liked Nataree too, for their young Northern Thai girls and for the most part the simple straight forward Thai boy / Thai girl sex they provided. But in terms of service and opulence, the Lord was/is vastly superior and Lord girls were/are generally a few years older, more refined in appearance, and much more raunchy in bed thanks to their being much better trained and managed as sexual providers. Nataree was a pussy meat market. The Lord is a palace. LOL.
Nataree has been closed for a couple of years now. I occasionally miss the joint. The Lord is my favorite soapy in BKK.Ha this makes me miss nataree. It really was different than the other places (probably because it was illegal in that most of the girls there were illegal workers from myanmar / Laos / Cambodia).
I just visited Poseidon & Emmanuelle and still wound up back at The Lord.
Poseidon. What a joke. Their girls were just low grade. No offense to the girls obviously. Their 3rd floor "models" Hell naw.
Emmanuelle. Overall quality of girls was better than Poseidon but still a bit too old for my taste.
I am going to post my 2nd review of The Lord later. Once I recover from getting my soul pulled out from the tip of my cock haha.I used to live walking distance to Poseidon 2 years ago. This is exactly how I remember it from 2015, a joke (But in 2013 it was actually alright). I would only go there to see 1 girl a few times since she gave really good service (not a looker but not bad looking). And yes their third floor of models looks like a retirement home for washed up hookers LOL.
Emmanuelle can be pretty bad sometimes, like walk in and there is nothing I would want to pay for. I noticed it has groups of 4 mongers (saw 2 groups of 4, 8 total) come in and just snatch all the decent and even semi-decent ones up and it leaves their floor with no talent at all. Have to be lucky and get there early. I go there often because a regular of mine (who visits my condo for free in exchange for me visiting her work each time) is there that I book so I am familiar with what their floor looks like. It's pretty bleak most times, but sometimes their walk-in talent is ok.
The thing about most soapies is that the real talent / lookers are not sitting on the sofas / sidelines / fishbowl, but in the rooms or already booked and sitting in the managers area waiting for their booking.
...Their girls were just low grade. No offense to the girls obviously...
Huh?? You call the girls low grade, and then turn around and say you meant no offense. Very funny!
Having said that, I used to like Poseidon many years ago as they presented good value, I. E. Price vs service level / girls looks. But these past few years, I have been visiting mostly the Lord, as the other places have gone up in price and the quality has gone down.
I think you need to give the ladies some credit for making it a better experience for you.
People usually learn from their experience and become good at what they do, when they do it a lot. And that's how it is with many Thai P4P ladies.
These ladies know how to relax a guy and make him feel comfortable with them. And it's not just about them knowing how to act with a guy. I can say from my own experience of doing many ladies, that after a while, I started liking a much wider range of looks in ladies, than I did before. The same probably happens with ladies who have sex with many different guys.
I think having sex with many guys changes how these ladies feel about guys. They probably become a lot less choosy than normal in the kind of guys they like and enjoy being with. Which means that your Thai lady probably isn't acting with you, when she shows some liking for you. She just has learned to like guys like you, and she is being sincere with you. And that's why it works so well with you.Oh no doubt credit to the girls for knowing what they're doing. Definitely not going to dispute their credit for making it a good experience.
To be honest, I haven't always had trouble lasting. So it could be just a combination of many good things. IE: super relaxed / no stress from work, nice weather & NO EXPECTATION of commitment.
I work like 15 hours everyday back home & having to then "game" western / westernized girls with ridiculous expectations is exhausting.
Huh?? You call the girls low grade, and then turn around and say you meant no offense. Very funny!
Having said that, I used to like Poseidon many years ago as they presented good value, I. E. Price vs service level / girls looks. But these past few years, I have been visiting mostly the Lord, as the other places have gone up in price and the quality has gone down.Well I mean there are unattractive girls OUTSIDE of soapies. I'm not hating on unattractive girls.
But they're a business that SELLS looks & physique. I'm simply judging their supposed offering. Nothing against the girls. But they're not there to show off their IQ first & foremost.
WarmStone25
11-30-17, 01:40
Mitu.
I was in Bangkok in November and decided to go back to Mitu, Sukhumvit 33, Soi 4. I had had a good time there on my previous visit. I choose a girl called Yuki, a 5 star girl. I liked the level of attention given which made me feel valued as a customer. Massage was good followed by DATY, good BBBJ and sex was good as well.
Later in the week I returned for more. This time I choose Cookie, a 4 star girl. Service was as with Yuki. Yuki cost 3900 and Cookie cost 3300. Some may say this is too much, but I am no cheap Charlie and I do not mind paying for what is a very personal service, especially if I enjoy myself.
Eric Swiss
11-30-17, 02:10
A while back, I went to Analisa during daytime. Their new location near Nana BTS is very convenient. I wandered up their cul-de-sac by accident once on my way to Kasalong, and made a mental note to return at later date, which I did.
I picked up 4-hand one-hour prostate massage (their specialty). I asked to see the line-up, selected Natalie and Hanna. I asked if they worked together and they said yes. They were pretty decent looking, Hanna being younger.
It was a good decision. If you're only going for a massage, 4 hands is better than 2. When I have full service, I don't want to divide my attention between 2 girls, and changing condoms every time I shift from one to the other is a pain in the neck, so I only get one. But for a passive massage it is definitely a nice luxury to have 2 girls.
Natalie was more senior so she kind of took charge, telling Hanna what to do to me and where and when and how. They asked me if I wanted them to undress, but that was extra cost, and if I wanted that kind of experience I'd go to a dedicated full-service shop, so I said no. They were probably not skinny enough for my taste anyway, so nothing lost.
They worked well together indeed. It was the usual Analisa routine, but more pleasant and stimulating than with one girl. Satisfactory completion was achieved in the end. Afterwards Natalie herself was pretty much spent and she kind of faded while Hanna took the relay and gave me a nice massage, so it was good to have two girls, at any point in the session there's one who is high-energy.
Would I recommend? Only if you feel like a PM on that particular day (pretty rare for me), and only if you don't mind spending extra for the second girl. But if so, Natalie and Hanna are a talented pairing.
Lucky you.
Too bad they close at 10 pm. I assumed they will be open late like the other places around and went a bit too late. So couldn't check Mitu on my to do list. Hopefully during my next visit.
The timings are listed on their website as well as G Maps but being in the hyper excited state totally missed it.
Mitu.
I was in Bangkok in November and decided to go back to Mitu, Sukhumvit 33, Soi 4. I had had a good time there on my previous visit. I choose a girl called Yuki, a 5 star girl. I liked the level of attention given which made me feel valued as a customer. Massage was good followed by DATY, good BBBJ and sex was good as well.
Later in the week I returned for more. This time I choose Cookie, a 4 star girl. Service was as with Yuki. Yuki cost 3900 and Cookie cost 3300. Some may say this is too much, but I am no cheap Charlie and I do not mind paying for what is a very personal service, especially if I enjoy myself.
Christian G
12-01-17, 22:01
Been to Snow White last Monday around 4 pm and choose Emmy. Nice girl, white skin, no baby damage, good body.
1 HR - 1900 baht, very good service, DFK, BBBJ-DT, rimjob, great A+ service, finish with CIM.
Highly recommended.
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