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Fast Eddie 48
02-10-18, 01:57
Shocking story about Poseidon and I sympathise with you but it was clearly a mistake to tell the girl to leave on her own because it gave her an opportunity to make up her excuses and make you look like the bad guy. If you have a problem with the girl you should always go straight down and tell whoever is in charge. If you'd told her earlier on that you were going to do that she might have suddenly changed her attitude. Still, good advice to avoid the place.To *****man.

Maybe Bimbo is the problems I would just ask the management to give me another girl if you sense bad attuide, he need to treat the girl with respect and not force her to do thing that she don't like to do.

Fast Eddie 48.

Lion55
02-10-18, 10:35
I went back to SW planning to repeat with Candy but she wasn't available so I chose Aom instead. All I can say is WOW!

She is only a 7 on looks but the lady sure knows how to fuck. She isn't a spinner like Candy but isn't fat either. Medium build with a bit of baby damage in her tummy area. She was a lot of fun on top of her awesome performance. Awesome BBBJ skills with full DT action. When I reciprocated with DATY she was really into the action, arching her back to give me better access. When it came to the main event we cycled through various positions, taking turns doing the work. Much of the time was CG or ACG with her bouncing like a maniac. I have to give her a 10 on performance; first time I can say that for a Bangkok MP lady. I can't wait to repeat on my next visit.

MonkeyPaw
02-10-18, 10:48
To *****man.

Maybe Bimbo is the problems I would just ask the management to give me another girl if you sense bad attuide, he need to treat the girl with respect and not force her to do thing that she don't like to do.

Fast Eddie 48.Come on, you know it's never the mongers' fault. It's always the ladies and the industry.

I guess money doesn't talk loudly as we think. By the way, I agree with you 100%. We never get to hear the other side of the story.

Mjen1970
02-10-18, 18:47
I went back to SW planning to repeat with Candy but she wasn't available so I chose Aom instead. All I can say is WOW!

She is only a 7 on looks but the lady sure knows how to fuck. She isn't a spinner like Candy but isn't fat either. Medium build with a bit of baby damage in her tummy area. She was a lot of fun on top of her awesome performance. Awesome BBBJ skills with full DT action. When I reciprocated with DATY she was really into the action, arching her back to give me better access. When it came to the main event we cycled through various positions, taking turns doing the work. Much of the time was CG or ACG with her bouncing like a maniac. I have to give her a 10 on performance; first time I can say that for a Bangkok MP lady. I can't wait to repeat on my next visit.

+1 to all this. Aom is a stellar performer.

Goatscrot
02-11-18, 04:02
+1 to all this. Aom is a stellar performer.Would agree she is a performer, but man, just not quite up to snuff in the looks department for me. One sesh was all I could do with her. Ae is the only one at SW who does it for me look wise. Certainly wish she had Aom's attitude.

BigWorld
02-11-18, 07:02
Looking for reports about Nana. Is she still at SW? What is her performance?

Thanks in advance.

Whoreman
02-11-18, 13:13
Would agree she is a performer, but man, just not quite up to snuff in the looks department for me. One sesh was all I could do with her. Ae is the only one at SW who does it for me look wise. Certainly wish she had Aom's attitude.Have you gone off My? As Ae has a horrible personality and her service isn't great and there are no other decent A+ options around, I think I'm going to have to give My a go. Does she look like the photo on the website? I can't remember ever seeing her in the shop.

Soroche
02-11-18, 15:07
Come on, you know it's never the mongers' fault. It's always the ladies and the industry.

I guess money doesn't talk loudly as we think. By the way, I agree with you 100%. We never get to hear the other side of the story.I've heard the ladies side on a number of occasions when I cooked for a group of them and as the liquor flowed the "war" stories started to come out. Some were quite amusing but many were very disturbing with the main complaints being an aggressive customer who hurt or frightened them, poor personal hygiene and not being compensated properly for their services. All understood that some pain and unpleasantness came with the job to a degree.

That said I also know several ladies who were not suited to the P4 P business. In some cases they were desperate for money and had no other choice or thought it would be an easy way to make some quick cash but found out otherwise. Usually they had very little sexual experience but were talked into it by friends or family. I personally know a lady who was a bookkeeper that started in one of the hardcore oily shops but had never even given a blow job to anyone. Maybe Bimbo ended up with one of these. I have a lot of empathy for these ladies but if I detect an attitude I immediately terminate the session.

Franciscass
02-11-18, 15:46
I've heard the ladies side on a number of occasions when I cooked for a group of them and as the liquor flowed the "war" stories started to come out. Some were quite amusing but many were very disturbing with the main complaints being an aggressive customer who hurt or frightened them, poor personal hygiene and not being compensated properly for their services. All understood that some pain and unpleasantness came with the job to a degree.

That said I also know several ladies who were not suited to the P4 P business. In some cases they were desperate for money and had no other choice or thought it would be an easy way to make some quick cash but found out otherwise. Usually they had very little sexual experience but were talked into it by friends or family. I personally know a lady who was a bookkeeper that started in one of the hardcore oily shops but had never even given a blow job to anyone. Maybe Bimbo ended up with one of these. I have a lot of empathy for these ladies but if I detect an attitude I immediately terminate the session.Nice to read a post with something having some empathy. So much shit about rip offs, not performing, piper calls the tune and so on we forget there is a another human being there.

You are right some girls should not be in the profession and yes some are rip off artists but the majority are just trying to get by.

If it's not working out as you expected don't throw a hissy fit, try to understand and when you do quite often in my experience you can turn it into a truly GFE.

Turgid
02-11-18, 17:33
I've heard the ladies side on a number of occasions when I cooked for a group of them and as the liquor flowed the "war" stories started to come out. Some were quite amusing but many were very disturbing with the main complaints being an aggressive customer who hurt or frightened them, poor personal hygiene and not being compensated properly for their services. All understood that some pain and unpleasantness came with the job to a degree.

That said I also know several ladies who were not suited to the P4 P business. In some cases they were desperate for money and had no other choice or thought it would be an easy way to make some quick cash but found out otherwise. Usually they had very little sexual experience but were talked into it by friends or family. I personally know a lady who was a bookkeeper that started in one of the hardcore oily shops but had never even given a blow job to anyone. Maybe Bimbo ended up with one of these. I have a lot of empathy for these ladies but if I detect an attitude I immediately terminate the session.For me there is a difference between an inexperienced girl and one with simply a bad attitude. I have had both. I empathize with an inexperienced girl, usually these girls ave very GFE because they have not been long in the business. I am usually very gentle and understanding with them and we both leave the room contented. However, a bad attitude is something else; what happens here is that the girl does not have common customer service ability or assumes a foul attitude in an attempt to prevent the client from getting an erection. If she succeeds I go seek the mamasan.

Deshpander
02-11-18, 19:55
Hi,

Been there couple days ago, after reading post, thought of picking candy, but when she was not there picked "my" instead, she was very happy.

The usual stuff, shower- BJ, then some massage- BJ / DATY then missionary or what you want. Tried anal, but she said she was sick. I didn't force as I was enjoying my time. Did some chit chat.

Nice girl, good figure, gyrates good, sucks good.

I would say guys who want to try anal ask her first cause I was rejected.

Damage: 1500 girl st.

400 oil massage.

Lion55
02-12-18, 00:55
Nice to read a post with something having some empathy. So much shit about rip offs, not performing, piper calls the tune and so on we forget there is a another human being there.

You are right some girls should not be in the profession and yes some are rip off artists but the majority are just trying to get by.

If it's not working out as you expected don't throw a hissy fit, try to understand and when you do quite often in my experience you can turn it into a truly GFE.Fully agree with this. I find that when the provider realizes that you aren't there just to get yourself off but also want her to have a good time the attitude may change completely. LFK or no kissing suddenly turns into DFK; and haste to make you cum as soon as possible turns into effort to get you up for another round. I'm by no means a stud and I'm not suggesting that this always happens. But showing some empathy and kindness does go a long way.

Goatscrot
02-12-18, 02:21
Have you gone off My? As Ae has a horrible personality and her service isn't great and there are no other decent A+ options around, I think I'm going to have to give My a go. Does she look like the photo on the website? I can't remember ever seeing her in the shop.My is not A+, used to be, but it not now. She is ok, but I have found her a bit unfocused most of the time meaning that she is constantly changing what she does even if you tell her it feels good. While not a bad experience, I did find her kind of meh. I have not been with her in a couple of years, so maybe she has improved. She is actually better looking in person than she is in the photos due to some decent surgeries.

Goatscrot
02-12-18, 02:24
For me there is a difference between an inexperienced girl and one with simply a bad attitude. I have had both. I empathize with an inexperienced girl, usually these girls ave very GFE because they have not been long in the business. I am usually very gentle and understanding with them and we both leave the room contented. However, a bad attitude is something else; what happens here is that the girl does not have common customer service ability or assumes a foul attitude in an attempt to prevent the client from getting an erection. If she succeeds I go seek the mamasan.The longer you are here and the more experience you have in the P4 P industry, the easier it is to tell the difference. I think the majority of us empathize with the gals. I myself have no interest in new or inexperienced gals, preferring pros with good skill sets. I like the girl next door type; provided I live next door to a brothel.

Franciscass
02-12-18, 03:08
The longer you are here and the more experience you have in the P4 P industry, the easier it is to tell the difference. I think the majority of us empathize with the gals. I myself have no interest in new or inexperienced gals, preferring pros with good skill sets. I like the girl next door type; provided I live next door to a brothel.When despite employing ones best efforts to be a good customer the girl continues to behave badly I wrap myself in the towel go downstairs and discuss the situation with the shift manager.

It's only happened to me a handful of times over some 20 years and it's always been settled amiably either by offering a refund or picking another girl.

It is very important for all concerned to inform management always in a non-aggressive manner when you encounter an inflexible bad attitude.

A well run shop and I'm not suggesting all of them are well run will most likely talk to girl that has multiple complaints and have her change her behavior or leave.

So in my opinion after exhausting all other options a badly behaving provider needs to be unmasked both on the forum and to shop management.

Admin2
02-12-18, 04:50
The longer you are here and the more experience you have in the P4 P industry, the easier it is to tell the difference. I think the majority of us empathize with the gals. I myself have no interest in new or inexperienced gals, preferring pros with good skill sets. I like the girl next door type; provided I live next door to a brothel.Agree 100%. I have lots of hooker friends (what can I say, I like hookers) and don't cut people slack because "it's a hard life" it's a hard life because the money is so good and here the chop is even better than in most places. I asked a couple girls and they all have told me the same 75/25 25% going to the house.

Maybe.

I'm always looking for friendly relations with chicks (as I do in all my business relationships) and don't abuse any of them but that doesn't mean I make excuses for them either. Maybe I've been lucky so far (plus I've gotten some good leads) but my experiences in Thailand have been mostly positive and always good value for money. While Thai chicks haven't had the same kind of fire I love in Latin chicks they have all been very service oriented. Sometimes shit doesn't click and that's not really anybodies fault it's just the way it goes sometimes but they have all at least been able to pretend they wanted to provide a great experience.

For me it's an attitude of service and then good skills.

Bimbo Boy
02-12-18, 06:24
To *****man.
Maybe Bimbo is the problems I would just ask the management to give me another girl if you sense bad attuide, he need to treat the girl with respect and not force her to do thing that she don't like to do.
Fast Eddie 48.Hello Eddie,

If the girl doesn't want to kiss, doesn't want her pussy to be touched, doesn't like blowjobs, doesn't like doggie and prefers wasting the client's time preparing baths, then she should take another job.

And management shouldn't have hired her.

I do not want t push the girls, but in a brothel, there are some minimum expectations.

MonkeyPaw
02-12-18, 06:53
Hello Eddie,

If the girl doesn't want to kiss, doesn't want her pussy to be touched, doesn't like blowjobs, doesn't like doggie and prefers wasting the client's time preparing baths, then she should take another job.

And management shouldn't have hired her.

I do not want t push the girls, but in a brothel, there are some minimum expectations.I'm 100% positive that at Poseidon and every other soapy massages, customers have the option to order a drink. While doing so, you also have the option to ask a manager to help you select the girl that provides what you want. Also you have the option of calling the girl over and sit with you for a drink and asking about her services and if any tipping is necessary for extras. Do you just do a "pick, grab, and hope for the best?

Ajlon
02-12-18, 07:20
Recently went to Snow White, and had a session with Candy. Would definitely recommend, enthusiastic throughout and much better than some experiences I have had at soapies. Had a session with multiple shots, and even when I was tired, she would ask if I wanted to go for one more instead of trying to avoid it as I would have expected.

Looking to try different ones in the Sukhumvit area now. Can anyone help me out, do Addict Massage and Premier 101 massage allow multiple shots, BBBJ, etc?

Ajlon
02-12-18, 09:20
I'm new to partaking in this industry, and until recently, I only visited the larger soapies. Those have generally been similar in quality with not much difference in the services provided by the girls.

A soapy I would recommend against is Avita Massage. I went there some time last month, and showed up around 9:00 PM. Was told that the service is for 2 hours. However, it turns out that on that particular day, they were having a party for the employees at 10 PM. As a result, I was basically rushed out and the service was terrible. She tried to rush through everything so fast that after a certain point I was just turned off and wasn't even in the mood. It's fair that they have a party for their employees, but the manager should have told me about the situation instead of saying it was 2 hours, business as usual, and I only find out about it after I have paid.

Recently, I tried one of the massage places in Sukhumvit for the first time. Visited Snow White, and since she was recommended here, went with Candy. Wow! Did not know what I have been missing out on. Service was much much better, and she was enthusiastic throughout the session. Was able to do multiple shots, and she was asking if I wanted to do more right until the end. Was there for the full amount of time that I had asked, and there was no feeling that I was being rushed out (which happens at soapies where the girls are already thinking of ending the session so they can chill or hopefully get another customer). Would definitely recommend.

Now I am interested in some of the other massage places in that area. Could anyone tell me if the standard in that area is multiple shots, BBBJ, etc or do they also differ. Also, would like to know if Addict Massage or Premier 101 Massage also allow multiple shots since the girls on the websites seem like what I would prefer.

Goatscrot
02-12-18, 13:41
Hello Eddie,

If the girl doesn't want to kiss, doesn't want her pussy to be touched, doesn't like blowjobs, doesn't like doggie and prefers wasting the client's time preparing baths, then she should take another job.

And management shouldn't have hired her.

I do not want t push the girls, but in a brothel, there are some minimum expectations.Absolutely. Same goes for all other niches of the P4 P industry. I stopped taking FLs a few years ago after I called off about 4 sessions in a row due to the same issues listed above. Gals got 100 Baht. Why that little? Didn't do anything. There must be an awful lot of guys out there who are ok with none of the above occurring, a 30 sec hummer to get the pecker up, and then a few minutes or less of actual intercourse, because that seems to be what many of these gals are expecting these days.

Soapies have always been a challenge for me because the gals there are used to their routine and ten to be uncomfortable when you try to write your own script. That has been true in Soapies since my first one almost 19 years ago. That's why PSE shops became so popular once Baron's opened. It was not the "pampering" soapy experience, but the full on nasty experience. It would be great if soapy gals were able to offer both according to the customer's wishes, but as stated with Thai P4P gals; the better looking the less you get.

Breadman
02-12-18, 16:54
What is the best time of day to find the best lineups?

Bimbo Boy
02-12-18, 20:30
I'm 100% positive that at Poseidon and every other soapy massages, customers have the option to order a drink. While doing so, you also have the option to ask a manager to help you select the girl that provides what you want. Also you have the option of calling the girl over and sit with you for a drink and asking about her services and if any tipping is necessary for extras. Do you just do a "pick, grab, and hope for the best?Well, the problem is that there was not a big choice to start with.

After excluding the ugly ones, the ones playing with smartphones, the choice was quite limited.

Breadman
02-12-18, 23:01
Well, the problem is that there was not a big choice to start with.

After excluding the ugly ones, the ones playing with smartphones, the choice was quite limited.

Face the facts, you made a rookie mistake. Everybody does. No girls worth doing you move onto the next location.

Turgid
02-13-18, 15:00
..... There must be an awful lot of guys out there who are ok with none of the above occurring, a 30 sec hummer to get the pecker up, and then a few minutes or less of actual intercourse, because that seems to be what many of these gals are expecting these days....The girls who expect that are girls who are accustomed to Asian customers.

Bimbo Boy
02-13-18, 15:48
Face the facts, you made a rookie mistake. Everybody does. No girls worth doing you move onto the next location.You are right. We decided to go ahead because we were short of time.

BroDude
02-14-18, 10:28
These Japanese Karaoke bars like Pink Diamond, are farang welcome there and do the girls offer full service?

Guh
02-14-18, 10:41
Hi,

Just seen on there homepage, that they offer nuru, and candle massage. Looks like a soft wax treatment, think that could be a nice experience.

Has anyone tried that already? Will be in BKK next month and give it a try for sure. At same time try one of the new girls there as well.

Dan7373
02-14-18, 11:21
What is the best time of day to find the best lineups?I'd say that the best time to find a lady you want is at the start of the rush hour. Which is probably between 5 and 6 in the evening.

Because if you come too early, when they don't normally have many customers. Then they'll have fewer and possibly less attractive ladies. It doesn't make sense to have many ladies sitting around and not doing anything, when they can predict that they aren't going to have many customers.

And if you come too late, when a lot of customers have already taken out the ladies, then again you'll have fewer and less attractive ladies to choose from. Because the best-looking ladies will be busy with their customers.

But if you come just before the rush hour starts and wait for extra ladies to come, then this is when you get to have the best choice. Because the ladies come a little bit early, so that they can be ready, when the rush of customers arrives. And in this small window period, you can probably find a lady you like.

Dan7373
02-14-18, 12:41
... I find that when the provider realizes that you aren't there just to get yourself off but also want her to have a good time the attitude may change completely. LFK or no kissing suddenly turns into DFK; and haste to make you cum as soon as possible turns into effort to get you up for another round. I'm by no means a stud and I'm not suggesting that this always happens. But showing some empathy and kindness does go a long way.I think it all comes down to helping the lady get in the mood to do you good.

If you make her feel insecure and unsure, then she is going to be thinking about that, rather than about ways to make it good for you.

Making small talk helps the lady relax with you. Giving her a friendly hug is important too. Because you need to back up your nice words with nice actions to make them believable.

Once the lady is relaxed, then you need to foreplay her, so that she is sexually aroused and in the mood to do you good. And when it comes to sexually arousing a lady, then there is no substitute for massaging her pussy and clit with a well-lubricated hand. You need to get her clitoral erection going. Or else, she isn't in the mood.

You can do oral sex on the lady. But this is less spontaneous, than frequently reaching for the lady's clit and masturbating it in various positions and situations. Oral sex is good for bringing the lady all the way to orgasm. But if you just want to arouse the lady sexually and maintain her arousal, then spontaneous clit masturbations in various situations works really well for that. And it's a better way to get mutual pleasure from each other, than oral sex. Because the lady can continue pleasing you, even while you are pleasing her.

In some sex positions, you can even masturbate the lady's clit with your hand, while you ride her pussy with your cock. Which isn't possible to do with oral sex. The best you can do with oral sex is to have mutual oral sex in the 69 position.

Whoreman
02-15-18, 16:05
I think it all comes down to helping the lady get in the mood to do you good.

If you make her feel insecure and unsure, then she is going to be thinking about that, rather than about ways to make it good for you.

Making small talk helps the lady relax with you. Giving her a friendly hug is important too. Because you need to back up your nice words with nice actions to make them believable.

Once the lady is relaxed, then you need to foreplay her, so that she is sexually aroused and in the mood to do you good. And when it comes to sexually arousing a lady, then there is no substitute for massaging her pussy and clit with a well-lubricated hand. You need to get her clitoral erection going. Or else, she isn't in the mood.

You can do oral sex on the lady. But this is less spontaneous, than frequently reaching for the lady's clit and masturbating it in various positions and situations. Oral sex is good for bringing the lady all the way to orgasm. But if you just want to arouse the lady sexually and maintain her arousal, then spontaneous clit masturbations in various situations works really well for that. And it's a better way to get mutual pleasure from each other, than oral sex. Because the lady can continue pleasing you, even while you are pleasing her.

In some sex positions, you can even masturbate the lady's clit with your hand, while you ride her pussy with your cock. Which isn't possible to do with oral sex. The best you can do with oral sex is to have mutual oral sex in the 69 position.Personally, I prefer to just slap my cock all over her face and then give her a 3-hole pounding.

Admin2
02-15-18, 19:05
Since I've been reading about all of you guys banging my future ex wife Candy at Snow White I thought I would get back at that unfaithful woman (seriously, she told me I was special) by banging somebody else.

I had seen a chick named ohha (something like that, Thai names kill me) at chrome, 20 something spinner of Lao ethnicity but one of you fuckers had taken the second great love of my life out of the place so in my grief I was forced to look at the lineup and chose Whee (again, Thai names) 30 something, pretty, fake boobs, to console me.

I got to say, this was the fastest I've ever gotten over a broken heart. This chick was pretty amazing, she understood pacing. I'm a one shot kinda guy and I told her that and everything she did after hearing that was about slowly turning up the heat. Chrome is a soapy place and while the ambiance is less than romantic like SW with all tile and harsh lights this session was fucking hot. Everything was slow, really slow. She bathed me slow standing up, working around my unit not touching it until it was hard and then finally soaping it up but only enough to get me really hard then rinse.

Then down on the mat on my belly for 10-15 minutes while she did all the ass rubbing and titty rubbing starting at my toes to my head.

Then the flip and it was more of the same for another 15, she barely touched my junk, just a couple slight, almost accidental touches. Then she started playing with it, so lightly it was hard to tell if she was touching it sometimes and the same with the BBBJ. Long slow, BBBJ, lots of change in intensity. Just great. By the time I got around to fucking her I was done in about a minute.

Her english is pretty good so after we cuddled up a little and had a post coital chat. She surprised me by saying she was a mom, I knew she wasn't young, but I was surprised she was older than 35 and I could see ZERO baby damage. She was curvy, not a spinner by any stretch but not fat.

Overall a great experience, cost was 2 K at the door. I will repeat.

Dan7373
02-15-18, 22:42
Personally, I prefer to just slap my cock all over her face and then give her a 3-hole pounding.Attractive ladies usually don't like this kind of approach. Which leaves you with a limited choice of ladies.

I'd rather have mutual pleasure with a really hot chick, than have a 3-hole pounding with a less attractive lady.

There is always a trade-off in everything you do. But it's up to you.

EihTooms
02-16-18, 01:11
Since I've been reading about all of you guys banging my future ex wife Candy at Snow White I thought I would get back at that unfaithful woman (seriously, she told me I was special) by banging somebody else.

I had seen a chick named ohha (something like that, Thai names kill me) at chrome, 20 something spinner of Lao ethnicity but one of you fuckers had taken the second great love of my life out of the place so in my grief I was forced to look at the lineup and chose Whee (again, Thai names) 30 something, pretty, fake boobs, to console me.

I got to say, this was the fastest I've ever gotten over a broken heart. This chick was pretty amazing, she understood pacing. I'm a one shot kinda guy and I told her that and everything she did after hearing that was about slowly turning up the heat. Chrome is a soapy place and while the ambiance is less than romantic like SW with all tile and harsh lights this session was fucking hot. Everything was slow, really slow. She bathed me slow standing up, working around my unit not touching it until it was hard and then finally soaping it up but only enough to get me really hard then rinse.

Then down on the mat on my belly for 10-15 minutes while she did all the ass rubbing and titty rubbing starting at my toes to my head.

Then the flip and it was more of the same for another 15, she barely touched my junk, just a couple slight, almost accidental touches. Then she started playing with it, so lightly it was hard to tell if she was touching it sometimes and the same with the BBBJ. Long slow, BBBJ, lots of change in intensity. Just great. By the time I got around to fucking her I was done in about a minute.

Her english is pretty good so after we cuddled up a little and had a post coital chat. She surprised me by saying she was a mom, I knew she wasn't young, but I was surprised she was older than 35 and I could see ZERO baby damage. She was curvy, not a spinner by any stretch but not fat.

Overall a great experience, cost was 2 K at the door. I will repeat.In my experience, a Thai P4P girl who understands and applies properly slow pacing like you described is INCREDIBLY rare and worth tons more of our time and money than what we commonly encounter. Seriously. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of them out of hundreds I have tried in the past 5 years living here. Thanks for that review. I hope Wi (or Whee, as you spelled it) gets more business from your review. Hell, I might try my luck with her myself sometime just to see if she can break my years' long curse of worthless to disastrous massage shop experiences.

Mjen1970
02-16-18, 01:30
Personally, I prefer to just slap my cock all over her face and then give her a 3-hole pounding.Oh how I wish this forum had a like button.

Beijing4987
02-16-18, 03:11
They are making fun of Dan, who does not get the joke. Admin2 is in on it.

Admin2
02-16-18, 05:13
In my experience, a Thai P4P girl who understands and applies properly slow pacing like you described is INCREDIBLY rare and worth tons more of our time and money than what we commonly encounter. Seriously. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of them out of hundreds I have tried in the past 5 years living here. Thanks for that review. I hope Wi (or Whee, as you spelled it) gets more business from your review. Hell, I might try my luck with her myself sometime just to see if she can break my years' long curse of worthless to disastrous massage shop experiences.As always, YMMV. Perhaps I found the one that "likes" me and hates all the rest of the falangs LOL. That happened to me in Argentina with an Aletta Ocean look a like. Chick had shitty reviews for years from everybody who saw her, I knew that going in but, well, Aletta Ocean look a like. From the first day she fucked me like I invented sex. For a year and a half twice a week everytime, GFE / PSE sex. The whole time she continued to get shitty reviews for being cold and mechanical. I asked her about it once and she said she hated them but I was her "amorcito" maybe it's the same with Wi (whee, whatever) hookers, go figure. I usually make jokes and laugh a lot at the beginning of a session with a new girl so maybe that's what does it.

My experience yesterday with her was nearly excruciatingly slow.


They are making fun of Dan, who does not get the joke. Admin2 is in on it.Not sure about what joke I'm in on.

Ajlon
02-16-18, 05:17
Since I can be an incredibly horny fucker, I was wondering are Premier 101, Addict massage, and Dream Heaven massage multiple shot shops?

Admin2
02-16-18, 05:25
Since I can be an incredibly horny fucker, I was wondering are Premier 101, Addict massage, and Dream Heaven massage multiple shot shops?At these places I can say yes. I'm not a multiple shot kinda guy but at all three of these it was 100% on the menu. Snow White it was on with two different chicks, same with chrome.

I'm thinking mltipop is basic service in Thailand because the two places in Pattaya were explicit in saying it was, along with everyplace I've been to in BKK but I could be wrong. (BJ bars excluded).

EihTooms
02-16-18, 08:16
As always, YMMV. Perhaps I found the one that "likes" me and hates all the rest of the falangs LOL. That happened to me in Argentina with an Aletta Ocean look a like. Chick had shitty reviews for years from everybody who saw her, I knew that going in but, well, Aletta Ocean look a like. From the first day she fucked me like I invented sex. For a year and a half twice a week everytime, GFE / PSE sex. The whole time she continued to get shitty reviews for being cold and mechanical. I asked her about it once and she said she hated them but I was her "amorcito" maybe it's the same with Wi (whee, whatever) hookers, go figure. I usually make jokes and laugh a lot at the beginning of a session with a new girl so maybe that's what does it.

My experience yesterday with her was nearly excruciatingly slow.
That is similar to my approach with a new girl too. And that usually contributes to producing the results I am hoping for. Except for massage shop girls. LOL. For me, what makes a massage shop experience unacceptably mechanical is the girl's speed. Typically, there is almost nothing I can say, demonstrate and repeat that will slow the girl down except for perhaps for the five seconds after I got the message across. Then it's right back to her going way too fast to feel like the girl is engaging with a human being instead of grappling with a stubborn water pump. Her mistake, oddly enough, is that she starts out working too hard.

Excruciatingly slow is a much, much better starting point imo. Then when or if I need her to go faster with me, she still has the energy to do it. And I might not ever need her to work harder or move faster.

Ibaski
02-16-18, 14:53
Excruciatingly slow is a much, much better starting point imo. Then when or if I need her to go faster with me, she still has the energy to do it. And I might not ever need her to work harder or move faster.My pet peeve in BKK. Seems impossible to get a sensual experience. No more than handful sensual experiences in all my frequent travels there.

Admin2
02-16-18, 16:49
My pet peeve in BKK. Seems impossible to get a sensual experience. No more than handful sensual experiences in all my frequent travels there.I walked out of one at the Pink Massage over by Addiction, Addictive whatever. The chick gave me a shower like she was prepping me for surgery or something. Just scrubbed me, no sensuality at all. I asked her if everything was ok and she said yes and asked why. I said because you look angry, have I done something to offend you? She said no. Then we go to the bed and she had me lay down on my stomach and was just pushing down on my back like she was trying to bounce me on the bed. I finally just stood up and started getting dressed and used google translate to explain that she had done nothing erotic nor sensual since we came upstairs and I was leaving.

I asked for another girl at the desk, they said none were available, (there were none sitting around or out front) the lady asked me why, I used translate again to explain that the 10 minutes I had spent upstairs were devoid of any sensuality or eroticism at all and that I should get at least half my money back. She wouldn't and I wasn't going to make a big deal about it because that would be a waste of time for 30 bucks.

I knew I would write about it here sooner or later so hopefully they lose a couple sales from it.

A friend of mine here who has spent time in South America describes the difference like this, "Latinas fuck like they are trying to put out a fire, Asians fuck like they are scratching an itch. " I have found that to be generally true but there are aspects I'm loving, I dig this taking my shoes of thing and I am going to fucking miss being bathed in the shower. Even the good ones like Candy have good technique but not good, I don't even know how to say it, sensuality maybe. I can't give them a bad review, they do a good job but they are somewhat cool about.

Dan7373
02-16-18, 17:24
At these places I can say yes. I'm not a multiple shot kinda guy but at all three of these it was 100% on the menu. Snow White it was on with two different chicks, same with chrome.

I'm thinking mltipop is basic service in Thailand because the two places in Pattaya were explicit in saying it was, along with everyplace I've been to in BKK but I could be wrong. (BJ bars excluded).In my experience I would say that most ladies at most places won't explicitly invite you to have a second shot with them. It's something you need to ask the lady for.

The only exception to this might be a very premature ejaculation. The lady might feel guilty about taking a lot of money from you, without doing much with you. So, she might offer you to have a second shot with her.

And if you are going to ask the lady for two or more shots with her, then it's best to ask her right at the start. Because the lady might assume that you are finished with her after your first shot, and you might be too embarrassed to tell her otherwise. I've been in this kind of situation before, and I didn't ask the lady for a second shot, even though I wanted to do it. It's easier to ask the lady at the start, than in the middle of it.

And it also depends on what kind of second shot you want with her. If you want to bang the lady for a second time, then she might ask you for an extra 1000B. Even at places like Annie's Massage, you get two shots. But only one of them is full service, the other is from oral sex. It's best to tell the lady exactly what kind of shots you want with her. Or else you might end up with a misunderstanding.

Admin2
02-17-18, 05:23
In my experience I would say that most ladies at most places won't explicitly invite you to have a second shot with them. It's something you need to ask the lady for.

The only exception to this might be a very premature ejaculation. The lady might feel guilty about taking a lot of money from you, without doing much with you. So, she might offer you to have a second shot with her.

And if you are going to ask the lady for two or more shots with her, then it's best to ask her right at the start. Because the lady might assume that you are finished with her after your first shot, and you might be too embarrassed to tell her otherwise. I've been in this kind of situation before, and I didn't ask the lady for a second shot, even though I wanted to do it. It's easier to ask the lady at the start, than in the middle of it.

And it also depends on what kind of second shot you want with her. If you want to bang the lady for a second time, then she might ask you for an extra 1000B. Even at places like Annie's Massage, you get two shots. But only one of them is full service, the other is from oral sex. It's best to tell the lady exactly what kind of shots you want with her. Or else you might end up with a misunderstanding.Both of the chicks at Snow White assumed I would be going for two in an hour and seemed to be surprised when I didn't. I generally bust around the 35-40 minute mark because if they aren't boring I like chatting a bit while I relax after, if they are boring I just catch my breath clean up and leave.

The poor thing at Asian Massage wanted to do a good job, she seemed (to me) to have the desire to please me but I think is not well suited to the business and really wants each session to be over.

I told the lady I've been talking about recently from Chrome that I would only be busting once (her english was really good so I felt confident she would understand) and she adjusted the session.

I don't really remember how the other chick (Oh) at chrome handled it. I was more focused on fucking this extremely (again to me) hot chick that I don't recall. I know that she spent a lot of time doing the slippy slidey thing which may have been her way of avoiding actual sex but I was 100% digging it so I didn't care.

My experience is limited, and for a couple of them I had the assistance of the members of this forum telling me "go here, fuck her" (being an Admin is fucking great) so I probably dodged some duds.

All of the Pattaya experiences were a bust for me.

This is not me contradicting you, you have obviously spent a lot more time here than I have, just sharing my experiences. Maybe the trick is to go in pretending to want only one LOL.

I also wonder if multiple shots is more for the 90 min sessions. Don't know, just wondering.

Anon Mous
02-17-18, 12:38
This is from December last. Went to La Belle soapy at around 7-7.30 on a weekend. The place was packed with more than 30 girls available. There were around 6-7 other guys, almost all of them japanese/korean. I can't tell the difference. I hadn't had proper lunch, so ordered some chicken dish and a juice, while I scanned the talent available. I narrowed down my choice to a couple of girls but as I was still eating, my chicken that is, LOL, I decided to wait. This was clearly an error in judgment as a trio of dudes marched out of nowhere and scooped up one of the girls I had in my sights. An important lesson learnt, if you like a girl, don't linger thinking that you can come to her later because there may not be a later. Closer to the bar, where high-end girls are seated, I could see a dusky, voluptuous beauty, wearing a tight red dress meant to accentuate her curves, who caught my attention. From my position, I could not make out her face clearly. So, went closer for a better look and, I don't say this lightly, this girl was very pretty and looked more like a Latina than a Thai. I was still appreciating her beauty when she got up and moved towards the reception area and out of sight. That was the last time I saw her. Maybe, she was pre-booked or something idk. Even now I wonder, sometimes, what it would have been like? Finally, I made my selection and this girl, I think, was 5 k category. Don't remember her name. I've come to realize that it's difficult for me to remember the names of girls, with the excitement of everything that's going on, unless I make a deliberate and concerted effort to remember them. Anyhow, the room was quite spacious, with a nice over-sized jacuzzi and a seating area with a sofa and centre table. So, no problems in so far as the ambience is concerned. Above the bed, there was a mirror in the ceiling but it was a little small to my liking and, if memory serves, did not provide the view of the entire bed. After the ceremonial cleaning of parts, she provided a nice B2B in the jacuzzi. While I was playing with her, she let out these soft moans, which led me to believe she was genuinely enjoying herself. But, then again, these WGs are really good at feigning so, who knows. LFK/DFK was not on the table and upon asking she refused saying - many many customer. By now, B2B had done it's trick and I was ready for some hard action. So, swiftly on to the bed where she puts on the rubber with her mouth. These WGs are so good at it. Did her in mish and doggy while enjoying the view in the mirror above. First time I experienced this, although would've liked it better had the mirror been bigger and placed closer. After a while, johnny started losing strength so asked her to provide BJ. After a quick change of rubber, she provided a decent CBJ for a couple of minutes. I prefer CBJ for safety reasons so don't know whether or not OWO is part of the standard service at this place. Soon, I was ready for the last lap and asked her to take over and do the legwork and she finished me in cowgirl. Overall, it was decent service, with no complaints from the girl, who took it like a champ for solid 30 minutes and change. She had a nice face, which is always a turn on and spoke the language, although just functional. On the flipside, lack of LFK/DFK and the fact that the girl had a flattish sort of figure with not much to grab. After the session, I remember her pointing out that I had used two sheaths. I don't know why she said this. I remember thinking to myself that these guys are going to charge me for the extra rubber. LOL. But, of course, there was none of that. The girls at this joint, IMO, are a class above the ones at other high-end soapies in Bkk with the exception of, maybe, The Lord Palace where I have found even the entry level girls to be quite gorgeous. However, I wouldn't mind going back to this place. Enjoy!

Dan7373
02-17-18, 16:17
... I was more focused on fucking this extremely (again to me) hot chick that I don't recall. I know that she spent a lot of time doing the slippy slidey thing which may have been her way of avoiding actual sex but I was 100% digging it so I didn't care....There is actually an easy way to get the hot chick ask for your dick, when she is doing the slidey thing on you. It's something that works for me every time.

Basically I reach for the lady's clit whenever I can and masturbate it with a well-lubricated hand. The lady quickly gets a hard clitoral erection. And after a while, she gets so aroused that she can't do her slidey thing well anymore. So, she assumes either a doggy or a missionary position and urges me to take her with my cock.

The reason why the lady might be taking a long time with her slidey thing on you is that she doesn't yet feel ready to take your cock with her pussy. She needs more foreplay for herself, because she isn't yet aroused enough to take your cock with her pussy.

And of course, you can be a gentleman with the lady and help her get ready. All you need to do is find her clit whenever you can and masturbate it either with your finger or hand, depending on the situation Even when the lady holds her legs close together, then you can still insert one finger between her legs, put it on her slit, and masturbate her clit.

Some ladies actually like it this way more, than when they are spreading themselves for the guy. I've had some ladies who orgasmed with me this way, while holding their legs close together and letting me do a well-lubricated hard-and-fast one finger on their slit to masturbate their clit.

The only possible drawback of getting the hot lady go down for your cock with you is that you probably won't last, unless you plan ahead and know what to do.

I've read some advice from porn stars about how they make their sex last so long. And one of them said that extending foreplay is definitely one way to make it last longer. Which sounds like doing an extended slidey thing in your situation. But by itself this isn't enough. She also said that you need to mix sex with foreplay and go back and forth between them, rather than just go to sex and stay with that. And she says that if you pay attention to porn scenes, then you will see that it isn't non-stop sexual intercourse. They usually switch back and forth between using their hands and mouths and pussies and cocks. That's how they last for a long time.

So, my suggestion for doing it with a massage lady is to bang her a little, then ask her to do the slidey thing on you again, then bang her some more, and so on, until you feel ready to pound the lady for your total orgasm with her.

Goatscrot
02-17-18, 18:00
A friend of mine here who has spent time in South America describes the difference like this, "Latinas fuck like they are trying to put out a fire, Asians fuck like they are scratching an itch. " I have found that to be generally true but there are aspects I'm loving, I dig this taking my shoes of thing and I am going to fucking miss being bathed in the shower. Even the good ones like Candy have good technique but not good, I don't even know how to say it, sensuality maybe. I can't give them a bad review, they do a good job but they are somewhat cool about.I have found that to be true as well. In my 18 years here I have found very few gals who have the passion and intensity of Western gals, both Latin and no-Latin.

JamesRider
02-18-18, 00:06
There is actually an easy way to get the hot chick ask for your dick, when she is doing the slidey thing on you. It's something that works for me every time.

Basically I reach for the lady's clit whenever I can and masturbate it with a well-lubricated hand. The lady quickly gets a hard clitoral erection. And after a while, she gets so aroused that she can't do her slidey thing well anymore. So, she assumes either a doggy or a missionary position and urges me to take her with my cock.

The reason why the lady might be taking a long time with her slidey thing on you is that she doesn't yet feel ready to take your cock with her pussy. She needs more foreplay for herself, because she isn't yet aroused enough to take your cock with her pussy..When you get to my age, finishing too soon ain't the problem. Post-50, finishing at all becomes the only issue.

Admin2
02-18-18, 04:53
When you get to my age, finishing too soon ain't the problem. Post-50, finishing at all becomes the only issue.I haven't had control issues for a month of Sundays.

Goatscrot
02-18-18, 08:09
When you get to my age, finishing too soon ain't the problem. Post-50, finishing at all becomes the only issue.Pushing mid-50's and can still pop twice in a good hour's PSE session. Is it like it was in my 20's and 30's? No, but the drop off is not that great. Really, it's all about taking care of yourself. Don't smoke, drink in moderation, hit the gym 4 or so days a week, cardio the same, eat healthy food. If that testosterone is flagging, get on TRT. I have friends in their late 60's and early 70's who still have no issues.

Turgid
02-18-18, 18:46
I have found that to be true as well. In my 18 years here I have found very few gals who have the passion and intensity of Western gals, both Latin and no-Latin.My view is that Asian girls just don't enjoy sex as much as western girls. However, they do try to please you in either a working or non-working relationship which makes them great for p4p. Also, I believe the relationship between an elderly man and a young Asian woman is better for that reason.

Lion55
02-19-18, 02:16
Pushing mid-50's and can still pop twice in a good hour's PSE session. Is it like it was in my 20's and 30's? No, but the drop off is not that great. Really, it's all about taking care of yourself. Don't smoke, drink in moderation, hit the gym 4 or so days a week, cardio the same, eat healthy food. If that testosterone is flagging, get on TRT. I have friends in their late 60's and early 70's who still have no issues.I was the same in my mid and late fifties but now in my early sixties and there IS a drop off. Two pops in an hour is no longer possible although I can manage two erections in an hour. And yes I sometimes can't finish even in an hour. The amusing aspect of this is that it drives providers who think they can get away with a quick session crazy.

Goatscrot
02-19-18, 08:15
My view is that Asian girls just don't enjoy sex as much as western girls. However, they do try to please you in either a working or non-working relationship which makes them great for p4p. Also, I believe the relationship between an elderly man and a young Asian woman is better for that reason.Spot on analysis. And I would say much of that is due to the culture here that demands that women all be "good girls. ".

Goatscrot
02-19-18, 08:15
I was the same in my mid and late fifties but now in my early sixties and there IS a drop off. Two pops in an hour is no longer possible although I can manage two erections in an hour. And yes I sometimes can't finish even in an hour. The amusing aspect of this is that it drives providers who think they can get away with a quick session crazy.Time to get that testosterone checked and get on TRT.

JohnEastBay
02-19-18, 09:08
Hello,

Any recent experience with this place? I have searched but could not find much of any recent information. Website layout similar to BitStyle, but prices are lower.

Thank you in advance.

John.

http://www.exoticmassagebangkok.com/

http://bitstylemassage.com

Zahle
02-19-18, 18:58
Hello,

Any recent experience with this place? I have searched but could not find much of any recent information. Website layout similar to BitStyle, but prices are lower.

Thank you in advance.

John.

http://www.exoticmassagebangkok.com/

http://bitstylemassage.comI went there approx. 6 months ago to experience some of the stuff they advertise from their website. Turned out that it was some +40 years olds (or maybe older) that was the suppliers for these services. Not the younger part of the lineup. I didn't go for it.

JohnEastBay
02-19-18, 20:58
I went there approx. 6 months ago to experience some of the stuff they advertise from their website. Turned out that it was some +40 years olds (or maybe older) that was the suppliers for these services. Not the younger part of the lineup. I didn't go for it.I appreciate the update. Will try Snow White instead.

John.

Lion55
02-20-18, 07:07
Hello,

Any recent experience with this place? I have searched but could not find much of any recent information. Website layout similar to BitStyle, but prices are lower.

Thank you in advance.

John.

http://www.exoticmassagebangkok.com/

http://bitstylemassage.comI sessioned with Ying from Exotic Massage a couple of times back in November; once at the shop and once for Outcall. She provided very good GFE service.

Omega2017
02-20-18, 13:53
Still Mango, Addicts, Cherry, Candy, Snowhite, Tulip?

JohnEastBay
02-20-18, 18:02
Thank you Lion.

Just emailed the shop asking if she is still working there and available.

Really appreciate your suggestion.

John.


I sessioned with Ying from Exotic Massage a couple of times back in November; once at the shop and once for Outcall. She provided very good GFE service.

Zauberfee
02-20-18, 19:40
Still Mango, Addicts, Cherry, Candy, Snowhite, Tulip?Tulip, Snow White, Cherry in that order.

UShobbyist
02-21-18, 02:53
Tulip, Snow White, Cherry in that order.Based on my personal experience, the order should be Snow White, Mango, and Tulip. I am a CIM fan. In Snow White, Mango, and Tulip, almost all the girls will do CIM. There are about 50 % of the girls who will NOT do CIM in Cherry.

Crocodilexp
02-22-18, 11:59
Still Mango, Addicts, Cherry, Candy, Snowhite, Tulip?Mango has a 500 baht surcharge for A+. Not sure about Addicts. Candy, Cherry and Boss each have 1-3 A+ providers, but no guarantees they'll be around. I think we're down to Snow White and Tulip for guaranteed reliable A+ and multiple pops.

ThaRealDeal
02-22-18, 13:33
I had my first trip to Snow White and WOW! Yeah. That was nice!

So, I walked in and paid for 90 minutes (a bit more relaxing and less rushed for me). As I went to choose the girl, well, for context I am an obese black man. Therefore, they all obviously looked less than enthusiastic about the prospect of being chosen by me. They all had these looks on their faces like "please, don't choose me. " So, I went with the one girl who had an almost-smile on her face. Largest boobs there, went by the name of "Nana". A bit too much makeup and her boobs were very enhanced, but she had a nice round ass and a pretty smile!

We went upstairs and she immediately turned on the charm, hugging me like I'm her big teddy bear.

After she went down to get three water bottles, she dimmed the lights and we went to take the shower. Just like Tulip, she gave me a BBBJ in the shower. Afterwards, we went to the bed and, bless this girl, she made me feel like the sexiest guy alive! She was an extraordinary actress, pretending to be all turned on and getting me in the mood with another BBBJ. Afterwards, she put on a condom and climbed on top for cowgirl. After a few minutes of fun, we turned over for mish, where I came. HARD. While I rested, she gave me an okay massage before giving me an HJ to get me in the mood for round 2. Round 2 began with mish and ended with doggy. With 5 minutes left, we took a shower, got dressed, re-hydrated, and went back downstairs.

All in all, I had a great time there. My time with Snow White (or at least Nana) was well worth it!

Zauberfee
02-22-18, 18:47
Based on my personal experience, the order should be Snow White, Mango, and Tulip. I am a CIM fan. In Snow White, Mango, and Tulip, almost all the girls will do CIM. There are about 50 % of the girls who will NOT do CIM in Cherry.If anal is the main preference than Tulip is still the top option with Snow White beeing a close second. Snow White might have some less mature girls compared to Tulip.

Goatscrot
02-23-18, 01:46
Mango has a 500 baht surcharge for A+. Not sure about Addicts. Candy, Cherry and Boss each have 1-3 A+ providers, but no guarantees they'll be around. I think we're down to Snow White and Tulip for guaranteed reliable A+ and multiple pops.Both Mango and Bamboo have instituted the 500 Baht "butt penalty. " And it seems they are rarely mentioned here on the forum. I really wonder if this has effected their business. My guess is, it has.

UShobbyist
02-23-18, 22:33
Both Mango and Bamboo have instituted the 500 Baht "butt penalty. " And it seems they are rarely mentioned here on the forum. I really wonder if this has effected their business. My guess is, it has.There is no surcharge of 500 baht for CIM, digit and / or anal digit in Mango.

LewisCarrol
02-24-18, 06:57
Fellow Seniors on the forum, Needed one quick suggestion on a good soapies massage place (understand reading the forum would be best, but have only 12 hours in BKK, and needed a sure shot place with good service, thought will ask seniors directly). Only two constraints, ladies need to be young (20-25) and CIM should be allowed. I heard Tulip has mostly mature ladies and Annies service quality has gone down. Please suggest me any good place and typical damage. Would definitely post FR / Help with other contacts.

Really appreciate your help!

Safe Mondering,

LC.

Goatscrot
02-24-18, 09:08
There is no surcharge of 500 baht for CIM, digit and / or anal digit in Mango.But there is a surcharge for A+ service.

Whoreman
02-24-18, 15:12
There is no surcharge of 500 baht for CIM, digit and / or anal digit in Mango.Is that official that there's no surcharge for a finger in her arse?

Lion55
02-24-18, 18:12
Fellow Seniors on the forum, Needed one quick suggestion on a good soapies massage place (understand reading the forum would be best, but have only 12 hours in BKK, and needed a sure shot place with good service, thought will ask seniors directly). Only two constraints, ladies need to be young (20-25) and CIM should be allowed. I heard Tulip has mostly mature ladies and Annies service quality has gone down. Please suggest me any good place and typical damage. Would definitely post FR / Help with other contacts.

Really appreciate your help!

Safe Mondering,

LC.If you are set on soapie I defer to other regular Bangkok mongerers, but if you are ok with oily I'the suggest you try Snow White, Tulip or Addict. If you want Nuru try Chrome Bar.

UShobbyist
02-25-18, 23:01
Is that official that there's no surcharge for a finger in her arse?I did 69 position with a girl and she allowed both digit and anal digit. I finished with CIM and I paid her 1000 THB. I paid front desk 600 THB for 90 minutes before the sex.

Whoreman
02-26-18, 04:45
I did 69 position with a girl and she allowed both digit and anal digit. I finished with CIM and I paid her 1000 THB. I paid front desk 600 THB for 90 minutes before the sex.The normal way of doing things is to pay for everything up front these days. I assume you are an old customer so they're allowing you to do things the old way. Who knows if the same would be true for some other customer? This is the problem with an A+ surcharge. Does it mean anything in her arse or just a dick?

Did you really do 69 for 90 minutes?

Paolo99
02-26-18, 09:23
The normal way of doing things is to pay for everything up front these days. I assume you are an old customer so they're allowing you to do things the old way. Who knows if the same would be true for some other customer? This is the problem with an A+ surcharge. Does it mean anything in her arse or just a dick?

Did you really do 69 for 90 minutes?If they start charging 500 baht just for a finger at Mango, we can put them in the scam artists list. It's probably up to the girl but I doubt she would ask you to pay for that once you come downstairs. The finger in the ass is not considered A+, I've done it in different oilies and never been asked a tip for that.

LewisCarrol
02-26-18, 19:03
Based on feedback from helpful seniors. Went to snow white and took candy -.

Pros -.

- Very pretty face; was the prettiest in line-up of 7-8 girls at that time.

- Works to please. Will ask you multiple times if you are happy and what else can she do / do you want.

- Multiple shots allowed; Did CIM and then second one in FS. She was ready for third. I wasn't.

- Doesn't gag doesn't rush.

Cons -.

- Zero T*ts. By zero I mean flat. Nothing there except for perky nipples. So avoid if you are a booby-man.

- Warped skin near belly button. Not sure if it was baby damage or something else.

- Zero massage skills (shouldn't have asked / expected at SW LOL).

Chat up a little bit before the massage. Is fun if she's in the mood.

Damage. Usual 1500+400 for 1 hour.

Safe Mongering,

LC.

Supmam
02-27-18, 03:34
Body sounds same as sunny. Sunny has a top notch body except for the tits and slight belly looseness. Great figure though. Really fit body.


Based on feedback from helpful seniors. Went to snow white and took candy -.

Pros -.

- Very pretty face; was the prettiest in line-up of 7-8 girls at that time.

- Works to please. Will ask you multiple times if you are happy and what else can she do / do you want.

- Multiple shots allowed; Did CIM and then second one in FS. She was ready for third. I wasn't.

- Doesn't gag doesn't rush.

Cons -.

- Zero T*ts. By zero I mean flat. Nothing there except for perky nipples. So avoid if you are a booby-man.

- Warped skin near belly button. Not sure if it was baby damage or something else.

- Zero massage skills (shouldn't have asked / expected at SW LOL).

Chat up a little bit before the massage. Is fun if she's in the mood.

Damage. Usual 1500+400 for 1 hour.

Safe Mongering,

LC.

Syzygies
02-28-18, 20:26
I had not been on the forum for several weeks. The reason was: busy with work, lack of learning very much useful to me given my own peculiar tastes, and finally due to a winding down of frequency to monger. My GF relationship improved, and she has been keeping me relatively happy. If I did play up, it was same old regulars.

Today just happened to visit Soi Cowboy before the midnight closure for Wiskha Bucha holiday. All my regular girls were away, which I pretty much knew already, and nothing really interested except for girls who seemed to have customers already. Since I really wanted one and was after 11 PM, I decided to go to the MPs, first time in quite a while. Soi 24/1 was perused. I decided a girl at Boss had a nice enough face (clearly Issan) and the expression on her face somehow convinced me that fun might be possible. The body was a little on the voluptuous side for me given I normally go for skinny, but she was not fat. Tits looked enhanced most likely (while clothes still on), but not rock hard.

Her name was Pin. Correct that her tits were enhanced to D-cup, but at least no nose job I could detect. I won't bore you with a lot narrative. What I would like to say, is she related to me well, me being a bit of a Dingk Dongk type (meaning I fail to be serious about things discussed mostly joking around). She adapted to giving me a very soft massage and body slide as requested. Dick was massaged by her pussy. Kissing allowed. She did not smoke. Pussy recently shaved. Age unknown but I would have to guess over 30 since mature in attitudes and manner, not like silly teenagers. I could not tell if she had had a baby. Pussy tightish and did not see stretch marks. So possibly not a mother (no guarantees).

Fucking in several positions, 69, cowgirl where she ground her pubes on me slowly till she got her pop, mish, doggy. No porno, as I don't request it. Later she said she can do anal for customers with smaller size or cum quicker.

I greatly enjoyed the whole thing. Her pussy was perfect shaped and pretty and fitted me like a glove. So the point of the report, is to indicate she can give a very nice feeling fuck with enthusiasm. Porn star abilities are not known and therefore doubtful. Good GFE though. I never asked to try for a 2nd pop. Was after closing time already.

No complaints whatsoever (other than mentioned the sillies already), and she can certainly be good for the right attitude customer. In these MP shops, you can certainly do a lot worse. I definitely will repeat, and I don't say that about MP girls that often. The reasons are: Liked her face, body acceptable, liked her attitude, liked her ability to go slow, and was a great feel for the sex. Its no easy to please me that much, even without any porno action.

It was my first visit to Boss in quite a few years. So no one there remembered me at all. I would have to say I got lucky, because more often than not, I don't get lucky. Mostly have so so to crap experiences.

Whoreman
03-01-18, 03:46
Her name was Pin.Is this her?

http://www.boss26massage.com/pin.html

You must really like them ultra skinny if you regard her as voluptuous. She seems a bit too sinewy for my tastes and definitely well over 30. Good report though.

Syzygies
03-01-18, 04:17
Is this her?

http://www.boss26massage.com/pin.html

You must really like them ultra skinny if you regard her as voluptuous. She seems a bit too sinewy for my tastes and definitely well over 30. Good report though.Yes that is her. She most definitely is not even slightly sinewy. Not fat at all, but way more flesh than I usually take. Moderately big tits enhanced. Quite curvy so bordering on voluptuous (without misusing the word to mean fat).

Just recalled she is from Uthai Thani (Central Thailand north west of Bangkok), so officially is not Issan although looks similar to Issan girls to me.

I do normally go for girls much skinnier than Pin, prefer runway model types. LOL. My typical spec is slim face with real upturned nose, skinny legs and thighs with "gap", high ass not saggy, high tits not saggy. Pin's body was in no way hot for me, but quite acceptable. She may well be hot for guys with slightly different body taste.

The pics are quite flattering, as usual. LOL. She may have gained weight just a little since they were taken. At 162 cm according to the web page, I very much doubt she is still as low as 47 kilos.

Pin is worth considering for those guys looking for a fun GFE, if like her look. PSE probably not so much. I picked her out of a line up of about 12 girls, by her face mostly. Two others had O.K. face for me, one of those had zero tits I think. Those other two could have been Yu and Keiko, but hard to be sure (Did not ask the names). Likely I would have eliminated any girl with a fake looking nose.

J A Karl
03-01-18, 04:50
Went down to Kiss Massage a couple of days ago.

The management / ownership I believe is the same for Kiss / Honey Bee / Bangkok Passion / Absolute Massage Bangkok and also for Bangkok Outcall.

Anyway, I went in to Kiss Massage, it was just after lunchtime so the lineup was only 6 girls. 5 of them never looked up from the phone in front of them, 1 did and smiled towards me. So my choice was easy.

1 hour in jacuzziroom with FS ordered at the cost of 2500 thb.

She said her name was Donut and she was 24 years old.

I just now looked at Kiss Massage website, and she is not the same girl Donut as the picture on the website, not even remotely similar, and the age does not match either.

Anyhow, she was a very nice girl, a bit chubby around her belly but nothing loose and wobely. Nice small natural tits.

Believe it or not she was not shaved, I normally prefer shaved girls but I did not ask before this time so I can blame anyone but myself.

Standard procedure with shower, wash, rinse and a lot of bubbles in the Jacuzzi.

When jacuzzi session with a lot of cuddling was over it was rinse time again, with a quick BJ before drying of and getting ready for the bed action.

She complained a little bit over the size of my dick, which I by the way think is normal size for a guy from Northern Europe. She said she was not sure she had condom that fit. I have my own condoms so that was not a big deal, at least not for me.

The FS action was for me better then average and I think she liked my size. She was naturally wet and did not require any extra lube.

We did most of the standard positions, finished in doggy style.

Nice big room with a mirror covering the entire wall on one side for a good view.

She asked if I wanted a second round but I believe that 50 min past already I can not be ready for a second round and finish again in under 10 minutes, so I past her invitation.

During the whole session from meeting to leaving she was extremely careful, holding my hand in the stairs up saying please watch out don't fall. Getting in and out of the jacuzzi she again took my hand saying please be careful. I know she only means well but I'm not an old fat guy, just your average Joe in my 40's and absolutely not overweight, so I consider myself being able to walk stairs and taking a bath without falling over.

Overall I enjoyed the session with "Donut" (or whatever her name was).

Will I return? Probably yes.

Cheers!

Paolo99
03-01-18, 08:21
Is this her?

http://www.boss26massage.com/pin.html

You must really like them ultra skinny if you regard her as voluptuous. She seems a bit too sinewy for my tastes and definitely well over 30. Good report though.I've met her once a few years back and I agree with Scizigy, she's got an inviting smile with beautiful and very long dark hairs. Her boob job wasn't very good (too big for her body but the feeling was still OK).

She can take it up the ass without any problem, she told me she's got a lot of regular customers with very big member that come to fuck her ass (she is also listed as A+ on their cards in the shop). But to tell the truth, her ass was so loose that I stopped fucking it very quickly and went for her pussy instead (the size and feeling of her pussy was great). Her DT was also good, but she is definitely more around 40 than 30. Overall she was very nice and eager to please but I didn't repeat because there were younger and prettier girls available.

Amnesia
03-02-18, 09:10
I went to Catherine soapy two weeks ago and saw it was closed. Looked like renovations going; I hope it's that and not just another soapy gone forever. It was my second favorite after Nataree because girls there were the same type — small, white-skinned Tai Yai Girls including imports from Burma and Laos.

So Catherine being closed, do you know any other soapies where I can find the same type of girl?

Whoreman
03-02-18, 18:30
I went to Catherine soapy two weeks ago and saw it was closed. Looked like renovations going; I hope it's that and not just another soapy gone forever. It was my second favorite after Nataree because girls there were the same type small, white-skinned Tai Yai Girls including imports from Burma and Laos.

So Catherine being closed, do you know any other soapies where I can find the same type of girl?Places like that are having a hard time at the moment. Victoria's Secret was one such place and was raided by police recently.

Syzygies
03-04-18, 13:29
I went to Catherine soapy two weeks ago and saw it was closed. Looked like renovations going; I hope it's that and not just another soapy gone forever. It was my second favorite after Nataree because girls there were the same type small, white-skinned Tai Yai Girls including imports from Burma and Laos.

So Catherine being closed, do you know any other soapies where I can find the same type of girl?Same type, LOL? You mean young ugly girls but cheap? Perhaps not. However that is why Catherine was never a hit with me.

The trend lately is places to be closed down for sanitation reasons, e. G Annies closed (but not Chrome and Wood). Don't pass inspection. Could Catherine be another of those?

The other classic reason is girls of questionable age or nationality. Whoops I am not allowed to say much on that topic, especially when I know nothing specific. However think of the Nataree example.

Finally tax evasion is best way to get these places.

Syzygies
03-04-18, 13:38
I've met her once a few years back and I agree with Scizigy, she's got an inviting smile with beautiful and very long dark hairs. Her boob job wasn't very good (too big for her body but the feeling was still OK).

She can take it up the ass without any problem, she told me she's got a lot of regular customers with very big member that come to fuck her ass (she is also listed as A+ on their cards in the shop). But to tell the truth, her ass was so loose that I stopped fucking it very quickly and went for her pussy instead (the size and feeling of her pussy was great). Her DT was also good, but she is definitely more around 40 than 30. Overall she was very nice and eager to please but I didn't repeat because there were younger and prettier girls available.I agree with most of that. I had said well over 30. Exact age is very difficult. I don't care the age myself, if in good condition, no saggy stuff. Yes her pussy was a damn good fit. No reason to want the ass. It is not that easy to find a lot prettier in the MPs. When they are very young and pretty, service often sucks big time, or just dick scared.

However please tell me where there is a very pretty slim girl all natural (no nose job) in the MPs with great service. Scarce as hen's teeth. The last really pretty one I had in Soi 33 disappeared about 12 months ago, even then, she was a little dick scared, not at the beginning, but after a bad experience with some customer.

Most pretty young girls that fuck with wild abandon seem to have had babies. I have one 21 YO exception in CH bar. Finding girls of perfection in MPs is extremely difficult in my experience.

Syzygies
03-04-18, 13:42
During the whole session from meeting to leaving she was extremely careful, holding my hand in the stairs up saying please watch out don't fall. Getting in and out of the jacuzzi she again took my hand saying please be careful. I know she only means well but I'm not an old fat guy, just your average Joe in my 40's and absolutely not overweight, so I consider myself being able to walk stairs and taking a bath without falling over.

Overall I enjoyed the session with "Donut" (or whatever her name was).
Inexperienced customers are not used to getting in and out of baths and can be slippery situations, regardless of the age. Also stairs are renowned for low parts.

I hit my head many times on my first visit to Thailand, but I did learn the lesson eventually. Construction of doorways and stairwells etc. Is not like the west. Also customers have been known to fall for other reasons. Sexual exhaustion, I don't know?

Anyway I would not read in that the girl thinks you are very old and frail.

G Haribo
03-05-18, 06:12
Hi,

Anyone knows where we could get a good massage with happy ending and then wash in BKK?

I used to go to this massage place for Korean, where the girls were very pretty, would give a very good massage and nice happy ending. After this, I would be thoroughly scrubbed with salt and washed with water.

I don't remember the name but seems it doesn't exist anymore.

Any recommendation?

Amnesia
03-05-18, 08:23
I used to go to this massage place for Korean, where the girls were very pretty, would give a very good massage and nice happy ending. After this, I would be thoroughly scrubbed with salt and washed with water.

I don't remember the name but seems it doesn't exist anymore?Those please are called Akasuri, the most popular one in Bangkok being Sazanka, which first moved from Soi 22 to.

Thonglor and more recently deep into Soi 16 with upgraded facilities. That new place could easily be a spa (whereas the former ones always felt a bit rundown). Google for Sazanka or Akasuri.

Whoreman
03-05-18, 13:19
Same type, LOL? You mean young ugly girls but cheap? Perhaps not. However that is why Catherine was never a hit with me.
How many times did you go there? And when was the last time? It seems you have no idea what you're talking about. There were young pretty girls there but you had to ask to see the models.

G Haribo
03-06-18, 05:07
Those please are called Akasuri, the most popular one in Bangkok being Sazanka, which first moved from Soi 22 to.

Thonglor and more recently deep into Soi 16 with upgraded facilities. That new place could easily be a spa (whereas the former ones always felt a bit rundown). Google for Sazanka or Akasuri.Yes! That's the one. Thank you for the info!

Dan Key
03-06-18, 17:24
For a Tuesday, Huai Kwang was buzzing. Emannuelle had about 20, many very appealing, but prices ranged 2,900 to 7000! Paeng mark (very expensive). Merci had 10 and some of interest, but the tout wouldn't leave me alone and kept banging on about how I must trust him and choose the one he wanted me to- I walked out. Alaina has progressed- impressive lineup of about 20, several very attractive (to me). Chose Min VL34, a very small, very cute, pale skinned (Chiang Mai) young looking girl with braces. She was actually probably late 20's, but she was as cute and playful as she looked. Very little English, but I have enough Thai.

Bath was fine, (covered) BJ capable. She was a bit farang cock scared but after reassurance was fine in every position. Damage? 3,500. Yeah, I know, but even a semblance of genuine cute is paeng mark, and she was (or seemed) sincere: the fun and play didn't stop after the load was blown, nor even in the lift to the walk of shame.

WIR? To Alaina definitely, to Min, see how flush I feel next time.

Franciscass
03-06-18, 18:18
Annie's closed for sanitation infractions. Really S. You have this on good authority.

Whoreman
03-06-18, 19:12
Shame about the farang surcharge at Alaina. Good report though.

Irish Pete
03-07-18, 07:16
After reviewing some threads here I picked up loads of good info so I thought I'd share my recent visit. I was only there for one night but tried to maximise my experiences. This is part 1.

From the various reviews I was drawn to Mitu massage Soi 33/4. Yes a bit pricier but given I didn't really have enough time to experience any duds I was drawn to a safe bet. Wasn't sure what time I could get there so decided not to book and just roll up. Easy enough to find, down Soi 33 and 4th on right is a non-eventful little lane with not much there but you can see the discrete sign on the right.

In I went, a Japanese youngish guy on reception. As reported he speaks good English and he showed me the iPad with available girls. It seems like they were busy and only two available. He showed me the pics on the website which wasn't very helpful without faces revealed. As I was looking a girl came to reception and started helping. I asked for clearer pics and she showed me some pics with faces. Made my choice much easier. Both girls would not have been my first choice, I went with Kasuki who was a 4*. I opted for the Nuru massage, having seen enough porn involving it I was curious. Price was about 3,5 k baht I don't really remember.

I was asked to wait a short time and given an energy drink. After about 5 minutes I was introduced to Kasuki who was friendly if a little shy. I was led up various stairs to the room. There was a bed and a large shower area. The room wasn't well lit. I was left waiting for quite a while whilst various preparations were seen to. Then undressed, a little slowly and without any erotic elements, and led to the shower. She also undressed and had a good body but was devoid of any tits. She was totally flat chested, not normally my choice and given it was a nuru was a bit of a disappointment. Thoroughly washed all over. That was nice, a bit sexy but there was no other shower action. Given this was my first time I thought I'd let the girl take the lead. There was no kissing or BJ action.

After the shower she dried me and then I assumed we were proceeding to the bed. But when I left the shower I was asked to wait a moment while she prepared. I assumed she was going to dry and lube up or something but then, after a couple of minutes, I head this strange squelching noise and looked over the shower screen. She's got an inflatable mattress out (I hadn't seen it propped up against the wall) and was sloshing the nuru stuff over it. Ahah! This is what I came for. My hopes had started to dwindle as she was a bit shy and not that forthcoming, although I would say nice and friendly throughout. But the sight of the silver mattress I'd seen so many times before gave me new hope. I tried engaging her more and joking with her but it was hard with limited English. She did loosen up a bit. She told me her real name was Helen or something and the Boss calls here Kasuki for obvious reasons.

After a bit too long (tbh) I was invited to lay down on the mattress. That's when things got good. As she poured on the nuru gel I had a big realisation. As I mentioned I've watched a fair few nuru porn movies but never realised the gel is warm. Really warm. And it felt really good. The massage proceeded and body slide soon after. Fuck me, I like nuru! I wasn't that into the girl but still she was really turning me on. I can imagine how much better it would be if she had any tits. And as for big tits, well that will be a pre-requisite for my next nuru experience.

She's grinding me all over, rubbing her (not overly) hairy pussy up and down my legs. This went on for a while, and was good because I was enjoying the slower build up. Then the tongue came out. Licking my back and down towards my ass. Her fingers were getting involved and sliding under and stoking my now hard cock. I think she rimmed me but it was light and may have been a fake with her fingers. This was a bit disappointing as I'm a fan of a rimjob. See part 2 for a better experience on that front.

I flip over and the grinding continues. It feels amazing and takes a decent amount of control for me not to forget where I am and just slip my cock inside her. I need to take it up a level so I ask for a BJ. A bit of confusion follows as she says something about a condom. I think about whether I want to fuck her but I just want a BJ at this stage. So she goes down on me. Slowly licking the shaft and then sucking the top. She takes me about half way down but no further. (I'm 8 inches). No DT action. But the blowjob is good. She is quite sexy in her delivery if a little shy. I'm getting close so I need to fuck her. I know all this build up means I'm not going to last. So on with the condom and she climbs on top. Again, not fully in but it feels good. She rides me for a bit and it's nice. I'm thinking whether I want to CIM or COF or just finish inside her. She then moves slightly and the new position feels much better, her pussy is gripping my cock and she's riding me faster. Decision made. I last about 3 minutes in that position! A good orgasm and a rare finish for me inside a WL.

Overall it was a good fuck but neither very PSE nor GFE. She never kissed me once. Sounds like it would be mechanical but it wasn't really except for the waiting around parts. I put it down to her shyness and perhaps my noobiness.

I will definitely go back to Mitu and have nuru again, as I said next time with a bigger breasted girl.

Divine Baal
03-07-18, 22:31
In 2015 the alley next to villa market, ambassador, was an interesting place with rather interesting massage places. They did that old "cheap ass massage" to get you hard and upsell the extras. With the difference of when you are done, you leave. No matter you pay 60 min and unloads after 20. It was a release but lackluster.

Is that area still that shitty or is it more decent p4 p massage scene as the Soi23,24 versions?

EihTooms
03-08-18, 01:59
In 2015 the alley next to villa market, ambassador, was an interesting place with rather interesting massage places. They did that old "cheap ass massage" to get you hard and upsell the extras. With the difference of when you are done, you leave. No matter you pay 60 min and unloads after 20. It was a release but lackluster.

Is that area still that shitty or is it more decent p4 p massage scene as the Soi23,24 versions?All of the massage shops that were in the Villa Market arcade and in the alley between Soi 11 and Soi 13 have been closed since at least the second week of January. Some have relocated in the alley off Soi 3 just past Nana Square.

Irish Pete
03-08-18, 02:04
After my early evening experience at Mitu massage (see part 1) I grabbed some food before heading to Nana plaza. I wasn't ready for another session right away so wanted to check out NEP which I hadn't been to before and see if anything warmed me up. I've been to Soi Cowboy before and had heard Nana was a more full on experience and was interested to see that. I did wander past soi cowboy but it was early (8 pm) so was not really firing yet. I popped into Crazy House as it's been crazy busy when I went before. It was about half full. I took in some of the pussy but didn't stay as it was too early for me for a full on experience.

I entered Nana around 9-10 pm and took a wander around to get my bearings. I stopped at various places that had some action going on inside. I don't remember all the places I stopped, sorry if names are wrong / vague. First stop was Bangkok Bunnies. A large place with several dance areas. It was half full so plenty of space. I was shown to a seat and approached quickly by a friendly girl speaking decent English so I bought her a LD for a bit of company whilst I sized up the place. She was cute but a bit too much a nice girl for me. I chatted with her for a while and then a younger spinner, friend of hers, came up. She was hot. Tight body, good looking face and wearing glasses. Her name was numb-something. They have crazy names. I was going to say made up names but when I didn't really understand when she told me she stood up, turned around and bent over. When I'd stopped looking at her ass I saw she had a massive tattoo with the numb-luck? Name across her lower back. So I guess that although the name is obviously made up it's permanent!

Anyway I was getting on well with these two and considering taking the fit one or even both but given this was only my first stop I decided to put the hot one on ice for a possible return later. She was a bit disappointed and made me think I may be making a mistake (good service implied). So on I went. I popped into a couple more places (names unknown) and was buying a beer in each. I don't drink a huge amount so was getting nicely drunk. I bought a few drinks along the way and had a bit of a play with a few nice girls but none were tipping me over. At one point I made a noobie error and ended up in a not-so-obvious ladyboy place. I bought a drink for one of the girls and whilst chatting (and her stroking my cock) she realised I didn't know what was what and let me know. I much more appreciated this than the usual deception that happens. I've ended up in my room with one previously and had to ask her to leave when I took her top off and she had zero tits. She claimed to be Chinese (she wasn't) and I never saw her cock but I could tell. Anyway, I digress. One tip though is if you're not quite sure, they probably are! Also labyboys are generally more forward, pulling out their tits, grabbing your cock etc.

I had a mental note to visit Billboards. It's been well reviewed plus when I left Bunnies the hot girl said I won't come back if I go to Billboards. That was a good advert for me! I was pretty drunk by then and don't remember much. There were a few nice girls but I found myself comparing to the first hot girl I'd met and gradually realised that really I wanted her. So back I headed to Bunnies. I saw the first nice girl and asked her if her friend was around. She went to get her. I was feeling like I'd made the right decision. Alas, and maybe some of you saw this coming, she came back with the news that she'd been bar fined. The friendly girl was cool and nice about it and I was tempted to sympathy fuck her (mine and her sympathy!) but I wanted to save myself for more experienced. I still had a few hours in BKK.

I thought I'd head to the clubs. I like the club FL scene and tend to prefer that to gogos. But I wasn't dressed up and I had planned to take a look and see if it would be worth popping back to my hotel (soi 11) to change. Unfortunately I couldn't really get a sense of how busy or not the various clubs were. So I was heading home. It was about 2 am. I was checking out for any decent street FLs but there weren't any decent looking ones. I was then approached by an older massage lady. Maybe mid 30's. She was OK looking and I had a sense she would give good service. I was thinking about a BJ nightcap. I assumed she was a street FL and discussed getting a blowjob. She said she had a room. It turned out to be a massage place. It was off soi 11 somewhere, maybe harmony massage? It was in a car park or something, not far from insanity, it was hardly a spa! I assumed it would be empty but was surprised there were a few (ladies) getting foot massages. It was 2 am Wednesday morning wtf? Anyway she shows me to a small room. It has a shower (good sign) and bed. The lady then explains she can't do massage but has a girl to do it. Uh oh. This is not boding well. Whilst she's gone I decide this is my chance to practice walking away which I'm pretty weak at. Usually I think fuck it I'll just do her anyway (lazy). So I'm all ready to walk as this wasn't what I signed up for. Then she brings a girl. She wasn't a stunner but was probably better looking than the original girl, around 32, petite and friendly, smiling. I presumed this was someone she brought in to provide my requested services.

So the massage starts. I like these situations. The unknown of what's going to happen. I remember a few years back in Hong Kong I went in some random massage place that I had a feel provided extra services. They didn't really speak English and so the intro / negotiation kinda failed and I was led into some shower area and given slippers etc. The massage was delivered by a nice girl and was sexy as hell as I didn't know what was going to happen, whether it would end up in a fuck or just a HJ. (It was somewhere between HJ and FS but no BJ). So back to my car park massage, and she's giving me a normal oil massage. I had kept my underwear on. I like to do this in unknown situations. She had suggested I remove them, which was clearly a good sign. Remember here I'd had the discussion with the original massage girl about the BJ, I wasn't sure that she'd relayed it to girl 2. Over she flipped me. I made sure my cock lay to the side, across my leg so she'd have to touch it! She bumped into it and giggled and apologized. OK, so it was on. I told her I wanted a BJ and agreed to 1000 (plus 400 for massage).

She's stroking my cock and it's all going well and then she produces a condom. I say no need thanks but she says safe sex. I say fair enough but I'm not into covered BJs so downgrade to a HJ for 500. I have a bit of a feel up of her, she's still clothed and access isn't easy but she's not stopping me. She offers to take off her clothes, I'm not sure whether that's going to cost more and don't want to go back to discussing money plus I'm getting close anyway so not really worth it. So I finish, keeping quiet given there's about 5 ladies within a few feet of me. She cleans me up in the shower. The girl is nice to me, she likes my cock and wants me to fuck her and I'm thinking I need some sleep. I have a few hours left in Bangkok and I'm thinking about a return to Mitu or possibly snow white before flying out. See part 3.

Irish Pete
03-08-18, 02:46
Continued. . .

I wake up mid morning and ready for some action. I have a few hours left in Bangkok and I'm thinking about a return to Mitu. But I have a plan this trip and it's to get various experiences, so I'm thinking I'm going to take a look around Soi 26 and check out the line up at snow white with a view to walking if nothing takes my fancy and going back to Mitu. So around that area I walk down the Soi with all the massage places. Candy, mango etc. I check out any of the girls sitting outside to see if anything takes my fancy. Nothing special so I keep walking. I find snow white. After all the reviews here I've read this place seems kinda famous so it was surprisingly nondescript when I arrived. There were about 5 girls in the line up. No lookers but a couple that were passable. I asked for Candy but she was busy. I went for one who I think she said she was Shelly but I couldn't see her on their website. She looks most like Guitar, maybe it was her. I pay? 2200 for the session (1500 plus 700 I think). I went for nuru massage but never really got that.

She led me up some stairs, pointing out the various places you'll bang your head along the way. I can tell she is service orientated, this is what I came for. She's nice, and clothed she looks like she has a decent body. We get to the room which is a bit better decorated than I expected, has a shower and massage table / bed in it. She undresses me and then herself. The body is revealed and is a disappointment. Small tits that were a bit saggy and a fair amount of baby damage. Oh well, I wasn't here for a stunner, I was her for a PSE style service, I've not had that before in a massage place.

She's washing me thoroughly in the shower and my ass crack is getting a decent amount of attention. This was a good sign as I was after a good rimjob more than anything else. Some kissing and feel in the shower. I'm finger fucking her and she's showing she's up for it. I get the feeling she's up for anything, which is what I wanted. I'm a bit tired of navigating the various rules / boundaries that different girls or establishments have. I also hate having to go back to negotiate extras mid way through and don't really want to do that all up front as I'm not sure where I want to go with a session until I'm in it.

She gives me a blowjob in the shower. She DT me and maintains eye contact throughout. I tell her at this point I'm going to (later) finish on her face and she nods in approval. I'm liking this girl's willingness. Out of the shower and she dries me off. I've decided by this point I'm not interested in fucking her, her body wasn't doing anything for me and when I was fingering her she didn't feel tight at all. So I was wanting a blowjob and rimjob.

I lay down on the table and she starts licking my cock. I get hard and she's deep throat me, all the time maintaining eye contact. She's playing with my balls and touching around my ass whilst she sucks. Then she starts heading down. She licks my balls and takes them in her mouth one at a time. Then further down and licking around my ass crack. I lift a leg to give her better access and she lunges in. The tonguing action is hard and feels great. Probably the harding rimming I've had and I've had a few. I flip over to go on all fours. She says "Good" and dives in. Her tongue is deep in my ass and she's stroking my cock underneath. It feels amazing. I try to enjoy it for as long as I could, don't know how long, around 5-10 minutes. I'm getting close and I want to cum on her face. I've never done that before, I'm more a CIM guy. So when I'm close I get her to kneel on the floor. She sucks me a bit like that and then I take control and shoot my load over her face. I was pleased that it was a decent load after quite a bit of action over the previous week and managed to hit the target! I got some in her hair but even that didn't bother her.

She cleaned me up and I knew I was done. I was about 35-40 minutes into the session. After the shower I started to dress and she started explaining in not so good English I could get shot 2 and then shot 3. She really was the good provider. But I was done. I had just about enough time to get a legit massage before heading to the airport and I wanted to do that.

Overall, I had a good short time in BKK. I will be back. I learnt a bit and enjoying trying out new experiences. I will go back to Mitu for sure and possibly snow white if I want that PSE experience at the cost of a less attractive girl.

Vodkin
03-08-18, 04:55
Anyone knows if Eden Club (Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 near BTS Nana Station) is still open? Their website has been off air lately. Just wondering if they are still in business.

Syzygies
03-08-18, 05:30
Annie's closed for sanitation infractions. Really S. You have this on good authority.It is quite a sensible theory, being a realist (somewhat pessimist). Have you got a better theory? The whole place should have been renovated many years ago. Note that Chrome and Wood with a higher standard having been renovated to some level have not been closed. Was there any immediate re-development plan for Annie's site? I don't think so. Did the authorities visit and inspect? Yes! I did not hear of any illegal girls being caught, however that could be an alternate theory but likely to lead to much deeper trouble and really big news like what we saw in the past with Nataree. So what makes the most sense? Even though Annies premises rent may have been costly, they were never moving out unless forced. Too good a customer base to risk it. Transition will be tough for some girls used to making a lot of money per month with many regulars.

Most times a place is going to be inspected, the owners know in advance, but that is not enough time to solve health standard problems. Only easy problems can be rectified in a hurry such as certain people become scarce. Several times I have been in a bar and told they were preparing for inspection coming shortly that evening. Lao Yaa Dong (special leg opening herbal drink for the girls) was hidden away. Some girls maybe left the place if had no valid Id with them that day. Girls put some knickers on. Ha ha.

Personally I hated the Annie's rooms and would be much happier to visit Chrome or Wood, given some appealing girls. I can ignore the management completely. I have heard they a few nice slim girls these days, but have not really checked out the line up.

Maybe not all my views are completely original thoughts. LOL I have discussed with others considered to be worthwhile.

Syzygies
03-08-18, 05:44
How many times did you go there? And when was the last time? It seems you have no idea what you're talking about. There were young pretty girls there but you had to ask to see the models.Fair point. I did not attend more than twice and long ago. I would have asked to see the best looking girls available for sure. Hard to remember all the specific details exactly after a few years. I don't remember if last visit was 2, 3 years ago or more. My impression was the small number of good lookers were pre booked and not available at the time. Persistence and correct time of arrival could be critical. I am willing to give it another look some day. Bear in mind that I struggled to like many girls even at The Lord. I have seen lots of models at several Soapies. Mostly they disappoint me for face looks, surgeries, or for performance. Good body is not enough for me. It is not easy to find top soapy girls, for me these days. My success rates are poor. 15 to 20 years ago I did much better. Is it just me that changed? Perhaps not. The girl attitudes changed too.

Catherine is not the most convenient location for me to get too. A lot of traffic jams in Rama 9 which means motorcycle becomes necessary. I am quite certain that Catherine had a lot of very plain faced girls to my taste. Just how many pretty girls is not clear to me, due to the lack of experience there. Pretty normal at Soapies, however Amsterdam had more better looking girls for me, as did La Defense just nearby to Catherine. Did not mean I could avoid dick scared girls though. I also spent time sitting at Nancy watching girls come and go, due to good prices, but again the majority of the line up was not impressive enough to make me keep coming back.

If anyone claims that Catherine was full of cheap very pretty girls, they would be a severe optimist, at the times I visited. I know some guys will fuck anything with an acceptable body, or maybe even fatties. I have to find the face appealing unfortunately.

If I find any really great girl, that will keep pulling me back to soapies, but if that does not happen, I don't bother to keep returning. Not all of us have the time for massive amounts of research any more. My life in Thailand is no longer dominated by monger activities, so up to date knowledge dwindles.

Franciscass
03-08-18, 09:19
True I don't know why Annie's closed and it seems S. Neither do you. If it's true as you say they were making money sure it could relate to sanitation issues. Problem with this scenario is why close for good, simply sort out the plumbing.

Citing that Chrome and the Wood didn't have to close is irrelevant, Nataree and Victoria's not withstanding neither which were closed for sanitation reasons which other venue across town has been shut down for sanitation reasons?

I feel S. Your assumption that had a regular customer base may not reflect the reality of the decline there in recent years for the reasons often mentioned on this forum.

Recent posts for the Soi 7/1 shops have been at best mixed. Really don't understand why management cannot copy the model of the successful shops on 24, 26 and 33. Perhaps you have an opinion on this.

Margaya
03-09-18, 02:48
I am wondering what would going rate for having an hour long, 1 shot threesome at some of the well known parlours like Snow white, mango, all stars etc? Don't really need girls to be lesbo but enthusiastic orgy is a must. Any recommendations for any pairs and Is there any possibility to get some discounts before noon or late in the night after 10 PM?

I also have one more question. Which venues offer best chance to hear and enjoy going-ONS in neighboring cubicles? I have fond memories of banging girls in SW and 2/3 other similar places where one could hear the "boom boom" next door. Sometimes it acts as a fantastic mood enhancer.

Thanks in advance.

Ajlon
03-09-18, 05:53
As I am new to mongering, I decided that I would like to try out different places and see how they differ.

After an amazing experience at Snow White (which really made me want to screw trying different places and simply return there) I decided to try out Orient Massage a couple of weeks ago. There were some girls sitting outside, where I had to make my choice and go upstairs. After talking to them a bit, and describing that I want more than one shot, I went up with Tan. Paid for an hour and a half and headed upstairs.

Rooms are a bit smaller with the shower in the corner. The girl (Tan) was a bit mechanical, and I tried talking a bit to lighten the mood, but was unsuccessful. I didn't even try kissing her because her breath stank before we even began anything. Later on, this would make a difference as during missionary, her breath was a bit foul, and I couldn't continue in that position and had to ask her to flip over. Also, she would constantly ask to change positions which was a bit strange because I would be getting into the mood of things and suddenly she would stop.

After my first shot, she started saying that she would give me another go, if I left the moment I came, no matter how much time I had left. I was a bit disappointed because I would not get the full amount of time I paid for (I understand they don't want to give more than 2 shots, but I would have liked to relax for a bit), but didn't bother arguing much because that would simply make it even worse. By the end of it, I wasn't even in the mood, and settled for a BJ and HJ to quickly scram out of there.

Will not be visiting Orient Massage again.

Syzygies
03-09-18, 06:17
True I don't know why Annie's closed and it seems S. Neither do you. If it's true as you say they were making money sure it could relate to sanitation issues. Problem with this scenario is why close for good, simply sort out the plumbing.
I don't know if the venue is easily fixable, since they did not own it I believe.



Citing that Chrome and the Wood didn't have to close is irrelevantOf course it is relevant to the reason for shut down.


Nataree and Victoria's not withstanding neither which were closed for sanitation reasons which other venue across town has been shut down for sanitation reasons?We know that Nataree was shut down for other reasons. Victoria I know nothing at all. I don't know if any other venues are bad enough that they were already shut down or will be. I thought we were talking about Annies specifically.

I expect the current administration will find any excuse they see fit to shut down certain places. There are several possible reasons to force a closure.



I feel S. Your assumption that had a regular customer base may not reflect the reality of the decline there in recent years for the reasons often mentioned on this forum.

Recent posts for the Soi 7/1 shops have been at best mixed. Really don't understand why management cannot copy the model of the successful shops on 24, 26 and 33. Perhaps you have an opinion on this.You seem confirm the idea that Chrome might have had significantly less customers than Annies. I go by own observations of numbers of customers turning up at times I went there. Annies was the busiest in my experience. Yes I have not attended in very recent times.

The busiest MP shop I attended on Suk (Most customers reviewing the girls at the time) was probably Addict, yet that was only marginal over several guys showing up at Annies at one time. I don't attend often enough to do definitive surveys. I just give my impressions. I don't know much about many places, however even Mitu was not busy at time I happened to go there. The customer are obviously very dependent on what time one shows up.

There is little doubt to me that The Lord was a lot busier than Annies. LOL.

As you would know, I always considered Annies to be a hybrid between Oily and Soapy models. What things about Oilies on 24,26, and 33 are worth copying I would not know, and don't really try to think about. I don't have any favourite MP. I tend to find favourite girls at times, in spite of the shop itself.

The priority to fix up Annies in my opinion, would have been firstly to improve the rooms, or move to a premises with less cost overheads, and get more pretty girls (this one applies to any shop). I am sure the owners focus would be on profitability which is different, employing girls willing to work for a lower cut.

I do challenge you to put forward your own counter theory, as to what is the likely reason for closure, that fits all the information available to us, which I admit is definitely very limited. My theory was not totally my own supposition, but I never claimed to know anything for certain. Just propose what makes logical sense.

Syzygies
03-09-18, 06:22
Anyone knows if Eden Club (Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 near BTS Nana Station) is still open? Their website has been off air lately. Just wondering if they are still in business.Ha ha. A lot of changes happening on this Soi "Siap Dtuut".

Engine Driver
03-09-18, 07:07
I do challenge you to put forward your own counter theory, as to what is the likely reason for closure, that fits all the information available to us, which I admit is definitely very limited. My theory was not totally my own supposition, but I never claimed to know anything for certain. Just propose what makes logical sense.I'm no political expert on Thailand, but applying some basic logic and it's easy enough to work out the reason for the decline. Economic development and progress is the major threat to the sex industry, not just in Thailand, but also in the Philippines, Vietnam and Cambodia.

1. Thailand has 0% unemployment and there is a major shortage of labor. Wages are on the rise. The average gogo dancer makes about THB 25,000 a month and a good non-barfining coyote makes THB 30,000 + a month. Compare this to the salary of even a junior OL who makes about THB 70,000 and you can understand that girls don't need to be sex workers. There are better jobs around paying the same or more (even for someone without a college degree), so bars struggle to find girls.

2. Land values. Rising real estate values in BKK make it unaffordable for tenants (who operate bars and massage parlours) to keep paying steep rents. Owners are better off redeveloping their sites for other commercial / retail / residential purposes. I would think that in 10 years' time, the bars in Patpong, Nana and Cowboy would be in danger because the land is too valuable. Better yields are available for high-rise developments. The same goes for P. Burgos Street in the middle of Makati, Manila.

3. Thailand is keen to rid itself of its reputation for vice and as a destination for sex tourism. The sex industry catering for foreigners makes up a tiny portion of Thailand's economy, so if it were to be phased out, it would not impact on its GDP in any way. I'm speculating here, but some of the foreign aid which Thailand receives from left-leaning, do-gooder nations (like Sweden, Norway and Canada) might be conditional on the country showing progress in cleaning up the sex trade. There is an unfortunate misconception in the west that bar girls in Thailand are still forced to work against their will and [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) sex is common. There are powerful feminists groups in the west which would like to see their demise.

Mjen1970
03-09-18, 22:16
I am wondering what would going rate for having an hour long, 1 shot threesome at some of the well known parlours like Snow white, mango, all stars etc? Don't really need girls to be lesbo but enthusiastic orgy is a must. Any recommendations for any pairs and Is there any possibility to get some discounts before noon or late in the night after 10 PM?

I also have one more question. Which venues offer best chance to hear and enjoy going-ONS in neighboring cubicles? I have fond memories of banging girls in SW and 2/3 other similar places where one could hear the "boom boom" next door. Sometimes it acts as a fantastic mood enhancer.

Thanks in advance.I've had a few 3 somes in Mango, SW etc. In fact I think I took 4 girls one time in Mango.

The problem with 3 or moresomes is the messing about changing condoms all the time. I don't think I'll bother with 3 somes any more.

JasonX33
03-10-18, 02:40
Hi guys,

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this.

I'll be visiting Bangkok for 4 days starting from March 28th. Any advice on how find girls to have some fun. If I'm not mistaken Zip code given to me where I stay is 10400.

Traveling with a friend (male). Would like to know if it's possible to have threesome or take out 2 girls.

What are the costs involved?

Thank you.

Syzygies
03-10-18, 09:57
Hi guys,

Don't know if this is the right place to ask this.

I'll be visiting Bangkok for 4 days starting from March 28th. Any advice on how find girls to have some fun. If I'm not mistaken Zip code given to me where I stay is 10400.

Traveling with a friend (male). Would like to know if it's possible to have threesome or take out 2 girls.

What are the costs involved?

Thank you.You can find this zip code on Google Maps easily enough showing Phaya Thai, Din Daeng and Ratchathewi. There are a hell of a lot of massage shops in this area especially the Ratchada Soapy massage joints. Yes you can take 2 or more girls in a Soapy MP. Does mean you will get any interaction between girls or have a great time. I never did it in Soapy MPs, or was not good enough to put in memory banks.

Many of us would suggest there are better places to select two girls, where good girl interaction is possible. Some suggest Eden on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. I used to suggest getting girls from the Lesbian show at Suzie Wong on Soi Cowboy, and found it fun enough to repeat many times (when I was younger stronger and could tolerate condom changes LOL). I can't currently recommend this bar after a take over.

I do intend to get a threesome again soon. I have two Shark girls in mind who used to work at Suzie W and know each other very well indeed. I have already got kisses from both concurrently, like 3 tongues together. They will know what to do and not be too shy hopefully. Actually one of the 2, previously went with me in a multi girl takeout. Having threesomes from a bar is expensive since you have to pay the BF for both girls and pay a ST session fee to each. Probably one reason I hardly do it any more is the cost. Minimum of 6000 Baht and possibly more spent including ST Hotel and drinks. I know Natty takes 2 girls from Crazy House and from other venues. I hope he does not mind me saying so since I am sure was revealed before.

Eden cost for 2 girls is probably lower, but I found sessions there to be very fake, obvious acting, and girls putting on strap-ONS did nothing for me. Too scripted. I like to make non-scripted stuff.

It's possible to be a really great time, and possible to be disappointing. You have to get girls that like each other, are not shy, and have experience already doing this type of thing. Newbie shy girls is not going to work. Girls need to think of it as a sex party to have fun and enjoy while they all make money.

Syzygies
03-10-18, 10:03
I'm no political expert on Thailand, but applying some basic logic and it's easy enough to work out the reason for the decline. Decline of what exactly? We were talking about a specific reason to have been closed down (the busiest shop of 3), not so much general decline of the Sex Industry (which I don't contest at all).

It's not clear to me if you are trying to say the place had not enough customers. It is very unlikely to fit in this case.

A few places still manage to do good business where most places struggle to have enough customers.

Smokers Rule
03-10-18, 10:27
I've read some recent bad posts about this place so YMMV but I just had a fine experience at Poseidon. Was quoted 3100 for girl on the right and 3500 for girl on the left. (I'm American.). There were maybe 15 girls on the right and 2 on the left. The ones on the left were on the left because they had big boobs I think.

I checked out Floor 3 but just as I arrived a group of literally 10 Japanese guys came and scooped all but one up. Agree that there's nothing super special about them to merit high high prices.

Mamasan said that the one who was smiling the most just got there. She was hot, good enough for me. Paid 3100 and off. Standard rooms are okay but nothing to write home about. She delivered good BBBJ without asking and was very accommodating and nice. I'd definitely come here again.

Again, YMMV and I am sure there are cheaper options of similar or better quality.

Smokers Rule
03-10-18, 10:40
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Whoreman
03-10-18, 14:08
After my first shot, she started saying that she would give me another go, if I left the moment I came, no matter how much time I had left. I was a bit disappointed because I would not get the full amount of time I paid for (I understand they don't want to give more than 2 shots, but I would have liked to relax for a bit), but didn't bother arguing much because that would simply make it even worse. By the end of it, I wasn't even in the mood, and settled for a BJ and HJ to quickly scram out of there.

Will not be visiting Orient Massage again.I don't go to there anymore because they lie about not having babies and try to finish the session before the time is up.

Whoreman
03-10-18, 14:31
First thing is she's considerably less attractive in real life than in the photos on the website but she's reasonably good looking although showing her age a bit. Her pussy has been described as perfect but to me it was just a normal one with lips that are a bit too big for my tastes. She has a big arse which is nice for a change compared to most Thai girls, but the legs are a bit stocky so don't expect the full Brazilian bubble butt look.

Goatscrot has commented that she can't keep focussed for long on any one thing but this is a total understatement. She can't keep focused on anything at all for more than a few seconds. She's really scatterbrained, doing things like talking to herself in the mirror, fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting. She's not A+ but did let me put a finger up there, which was the main positive. Her blow job skills are not good and she gave up after a few seconds so I had to tell her to continue.

If she just behaved reasonably normally I would repeat but couldn't tolerate her personality quirks again so won't.

Goatscrot
03-10-18, 18:37
First thing is she's considerably less attractive in real life than in the photos on the website but she's reasonably good looking although showing her age a bit. Her pussy has been described as perfect but to me it was just a normal one with lips that are a bit too big for my tastes. She has a big arse which is nice for a change compared to most Thai girls, but the legs are a bit stocky so don't expect the full Brazilian bubble butt look.

Goatscrot has commented that she can't keep focussed for long on any one thing but this is a total understatement. She can't keep focused on anything at all for more than a few seconds. She's really scatterbrained, doing things like talking to herself in the mirror, fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting. She's not A+ but did let me put a finger up there, which was the main positive. Her blow job skills are not good and she gave up after a few seconds so I had to tell her to continue.

If she just behaved reasonably normally I would repeat but couldn't tolerate her personality quirks again so won't.It's getting ridiculously hard to find good looking gals without kids who provide PSE service. It's a unicorn.

JasonX33
03-10-18, 18:43
You can find this zip code on Google Maps easily enough showing Phaya Thai, Din Daeng and Ratchathewi. There are a hell of a lot of massage shops in this area especially the Ratchada Soapy massage joints. Yes you can take 2 or more girls in a Soapy MP. Does mean you will get any interaction between girls or have a great time. I never did it in Soapy MPs, or was not good enough to put in memory banks.

Many of us would suggest there are better places to select two girls, where good girl interaction is possible. Some suggest Eden on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. I used to suggest getting girls from the Lesbian show at Suzie Wong on Soi Cowboy, and found it fun enough to repeat many times (when I was younger stronger and could tolerate condom changes LOL). I can't currently recommend this bar after a take over.

I do intend to get a threesome again soon. I have two Shark girls in mind who used to work at Suzie W and know each other very well indeed. I have already got kisses from both concurrently, like 3 tongues together. They will know what to do and not be too shy hopefully. Actually one of the 2, previously went with me in a multi girl takeout. Having threesomes from a bar is expensive since you have to pay the BF for both girls and pay a ST session fee to each. Probably one reason I hardly do it any more is the cost. Minimum of 6000 Baht and possibly more spent including ST Hotel and drinks. I know Natty takes 2 girls from Crazy House and from other venues. I hope he does not mind me saying so since I am sure was revealed before..Thank you for this fine report.

Turgid
03-10-18, 19:04
..... fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting......No way I could nut in FS with a girl like that. In p4p I like to be the one to decide when to change positions and what position is to be assumed. CIM for her.

WarmStone25
03-10-18, 19:24
[QUOTE=Engine Driver;2150554.

(2. Land values. Rising real estate values in BKK make it unaffordable for tenants (who operate bars and massage parlours) to keep paying steep rents. Owners are better off redeveloping their sites for other commercial / retail / residential purposes. I would think that in 10 years' time, the bars in Patpong, Nana and Cowboy would be in danger because the land is too valuable. Better yields are available for high-rise developments. The same goes for P. Burgos Street in the middle of Makati, Manila.).

Nana Plaza is currently being developed. A new roof is being installed, at great cost, to cover the whole Plaza. It would appear that the owners consider there is a future for the bars despite some predicting their steady decline.

Goatscrot
03-11-18, 03:19
No way I could nut in FS with a girl like that. In p4p I like to be the one to decide when to change positions and what position is to be assumed. CIM for her.She constantly changes what she does during a BBBJ, so CIM is impossible.

Syzygies
03-11-18, 04:00
No way I could nut in FS with a girl like that. In p4p I like to be the one to decide when to change positions and what position is to be assumed. CIM for her.Ha ha. Amusing stuff. If girl cannot relax and get consistent, I could cancel session pretty quick. It's enough for me to cope with really wild passionate energetic fuckers whose pace is greater than mine, let alone girls that change every few seconds. Have met crap girls whose BJ lasted only a few seconds before switching to pathetic shaft licking or similar. May have been so scared I would CIM, when in reality I take so long to cum and she would get warning, or perhaps they not experienced and have jaw lock. LOL.

Ditto I am mostly deciding positions if girl can cope.

Syzygies
03-11-18, 04:15
Nana Plaza is currently being developed. A new roof is being installed, at great cost, to cover the whole Plaza. It would appear that the owners consider there is a future for the bars despite some predicting their steady decline.Most newly opened bars in Nana have failed pretty quickly. The big competition really is to have enough pretty girls. This seems to make bars hire a lot of Coyotes from the Agency. Not clear to me why there are a lot of Ladyboy bars too. The bar scene does not look promising.

Some bars have managed to improve their line up of girls. Some their bars I would still have a look, however did not take a girl for several months. Not easy to pick out the good girls. The best sign for me is lovey dovey girls that start kissing in the bar. Any stand offish attitude and they are likely to be crap. Same applies to Cowboy, where have only been taking my regular girls for some extended time (one of those is shy to kiss in public but I know her well enough). I had a great girl at Billboard for a while but she found a Farang BF very quickly, hardly surprising.

Syzygies
03-11-18, 04:19
I don't go to there anymore because they lie about not having babies and try to finish the session before the time is up.I only went to Orient for a relatively short time, when they one exceptionally pretty face girl (gone many months now AFAIK). She did have a baby and Caesar scar. Pussy was still tight. Had to try to ignore the scar and look at the face.

Syzygies
03-11-18, 04:24
I've read some recent bad posts about this place so YMMV but I just had a fine experience at Poseidon. Was quoted 3100 for girl on the right and 3500 for girl on the left. (I'm American.). There were maybe 15 girls on the right and 2 on the left. The ones on the left were on the left because they had big boobs I think.

I checked out Floor 3 but just as I arrived a group of literally 10 Japanese guys came and scooped all but one up. Agree that there's nothing super special about them to merit high high prices.

Mamasan said that the one who was smiling the most just got there. She was hot, good enough for me. Paid 3100 and off. Standard rooms are okay but nothing to write home about. She delivered good BBBJ without asking and was very accommodating and nice. I'd definitely come here again.

Again, YMMV and I am sure there are cheaper options of similar or better quality.It's mostly about getting lucky enough to find a girl that works for you. Disparaging comments about the place / girls in general from me and others may just keep guys' expectations in check.

One girl can make the difference between a great place and a crap place. LOL I used to go to Amsterdam regularly basically because I had found a tall pretty girl that was suited to me. Since she left, was never the same.

Engine Driver
03-11-18, 05:50
Most newly opened bars in Nana have failed pretty quickly. The big competition really is to have enough pretty girls. This seems to make bars hire a lot of Coyotes from the Agency. Not clear to me why there are a lot of Ladyboy bars too. The bar scene does not look promising.
.Ladyboy bars bring in more cash than normal bars. It flys under the radar. You'the be surprised how many bi-curious men are out there wanting to try, without getting discovered back home.

Owning a bar in an exotic location is the dream of many gullible farangs (like wanting to be a Playboy photographer). It's the quickest way to financial ruin. Without language skills, an understanding of local culture, insufficient political connections etc, Mr Farang gets fleeced. Can you imagine the internal drama when a third of your go go girl stable is on their period at a given time?

VanCityBoi27
03-11-18, 06:52
Haven't been to Bangkok in a few months. Is it true the The Lord Palace has shut down?

Which soap massage has the best looking girls now? I don't mind paying extra if the girl is beautiful and provides good service.

Ixgzca
03-11-18, 07:02
First thing is she's considerably less attractive in real life than in the photos on the website but she's reasonably good looking although showing her age a bit. Her pussy has been described as perfect but to me it was just a normal one with lips that are a bit too big for my tastes. She has a big arse which is nice for a change compared to most Thai girls, but the legs are a bit stocky so don't expect the full Brazilian bubble butt look.

Goatscrot has commented that she can't keep focussed for long on any one thing but this is a total understatement. She can't keep focused on anything at all for more than a few seconds. She's really scatterbrained, doing things like talking to herself in the mirror, fidgeting and changing positions every few seconds. I found it all quite off-putting. She's not A+ but did let me put a finger up there, which was the main positive. Her blow job skills are not good and she gave up after a few seconds so I had to tell her to continue.

If she just behaved reasonably normally I would repeat but couldn't tolerate her personality quirks again so won't.I got up her ass as recently as New Years. Didn't last long though. During our session she only stuck to one thing for a long time and that was licking my ass. At least 20 minutes if I recall. She really seemed to enjoy that. Wouldn't pick her again either way.

Whoreman
03-11-18, 13:47
I got up her ass as recently as New Years. Didn't last long though. During our session she only stuck to one thing for a long time and that was licking my ass. At least 20 minutes if I recall. She really seemed to enjoy that. Wouldn't pick her again either way.She did say to me right at the start that I couldn't fuck her backside but she did everything else.

There's one new girl at Snow White who is A+ and baby free but she's a fatty.

Ixgzca
03-11-18, 15:07
There's one new girl at Snow White who is A+ and baby free but she's a fatty.In that case she's invisible to me. LOL.

Turgid
03-11-18, 19:23
She constantly changes what she does during a BBBJ, so CIM is impossible.The only problem with a BBBJ is if the girl does not want to continue doing it, then its game over. However, there being no opportunity for CIFS, as long as my dick is in her mouth she can do what she wants, I will masturbate half of it while the tippy half is in her mouth and voila!

Dan7373
03-12-18, 15:39
Most newly opened bars in Nana have failed pretty quickly. The big competition really is to have enough pretty girls. This seems to make bars hire a lot of Coyotes from the Agency. Not clear to me why there are a lot of Ladyboy bars too. The bar scene does not look promising.

Some bars have managed to improve their line up of girls. Some their bars I would still have a look, however did not take a girl for several months. Not easy to pick out the good girls. The best sign for me is lovey dovey girls that start kissing in the bar. Any stand offish attitude and they are likely to be crap. Same applies to Cowboy, where have only been taking my regular girls for some extended time (one of those is shy to kiss in public but I know her well enough). I had a great girl at Billboard for a while but she found a Farang BF very quickly, hardly surprising.I think a good way to succeed for a newly opened bar is to create some partnership with the ladies and share your profits with them, instead of just having them as your employees.

Because you don't have any business without the ladies. And you don't have much of a business, unless you have some of the best ladies working with you.

The ladies are the business. And they need to care about the business. Or else your business goes down the drain. That's why you need to have them as your business partners, rather than employees. And on these terms, you probably won't have any trouble attracting some of the best ladies in the business.

It's true that good-looking ladies find permanent guys and leave once in a while. But if your business has a really good reputation among the ladies, then the ladies, who leave, will probably tell their relatives and friends to come and take their place.

When you have a good reputation, then good people will come to you to work with you.

Goatscrot
03-12-18, 18:07
I think a good way to succeed for a newly opened bar is to create some partnership with the ladies and share your profits with them, instead of just having them as your employees.

Because you don't have any business without the ladies. And you don't have much of a business, unless you have some of the best ladies working with you.

The ladies are the business. And they need to care about the business. Or else your business goes down the drain. That's why you need to have them as your business partners, rather than employees. And on these terms, you probably won't have any trouble attracting some of the best ladies in the business.

It's true that good-looking ladies find permanent guys and leave once in a while. But if your business has a really good reputation among the ladies, then the ladies, who leave, will probably tell their relatives and friends to come and take their place.

When you have a good reputation, then good people will come to you to work with you.Try to cut out the agencies these days and you will find yourself in a world of trouble. You can't fight the system anywhere in Thailand. You have to go with the flow and work within it.

WarmStone25
03-12-18, 23:35
It is interesting to note that on one side of the road a Bangkok icon, Annies, closes, appearing to lacking investment. On the other side of the road Nana Plaza receives significant investment. I wonder if the authorities are involved in this, perhaps demanding improvement or closure as a way of restricting a certain kind of tourism.

Sinofaguo
03-13-18, 00:13
Hi,

Anyone knows where we could get a good massage with happy ending and then wash in BKK?

I used to go to this massage place for Korean, where the girls were very pretty, would give a very good massage and nice happy ending. After this, I would be thoroughly scrubbed with salt and washed with water.

I don't remember the name but seems it doesn't exist anymore.

Any recommendation?Had a good massage with happy ending at Cam Can lately http://www.cancam-massage.com.

Girls are younger / better looking than the average MP in the area, definatly not a PSE place though.

The fact 2/3 of the girls advertise no FS made me think this place could be good material for massage + happy ending in a japanese style.

The girl whom massaged me was called Alice nice face, great body although enhanced boobs (I prefer natural) very nice personality and good massage skills. This one offered FS as a happy ending which I declined as it was not what I had come here and she obliged with the requested HJ happy ending.

Price is paid upfront and regardless of what each girl provides as a service (their site is in japanese but easilly translated with Google translate).

Sukhumvit Soi 22 Honey Bee Massage and sister shops (Honey Bee Massage 2, Kiss Bangkok, Kiss Bangkok 2, Passion Massage, Absolute Massage) and competitors (Passion massage, Exotic Massage) etc. Is also on this segment but quality of the service is very unequal. Girls tend to prefer providing FS as they get better paid for it. Facilities are nice at Kiss Bangkok 2 (newly opened a month ago) in the VIP rooms.

Sinofaguo
03-13-18, 00:22
It is interesting to note that on one side of the road a Bangkok icon, Annies, closes, appearing to lacking investment. On the other side of the road Nana Plaza receives significant investment. I wonder if the authorities are involved in this, perhaps demanding improvement or closure as a way of restricting a certain kind of tourism.Bangkok Massage Parlors. Except TULIP and ANNIES!

Except Annies should be obvious and Nana Plaza not being a MP, I'm not sure why you feel the need to bring that point in this sub forum rather than the BKK Reports or Annies sub forums :)

Engine Driver
03-13-18, 10:48
I think a good way to succeed for a newly opened bar is to create some partnership with the ladies and share your profits with them, instead of just having them as your employees.

<SNIP> That's why you need to have them as your business partners, rather than employees. And on these terms, you probably won't have any trouble attracting some of the best ladies in the business.

I was hoping your advice was just a joke, but then I saw you have over 900 posts, and most of them on the Thailand board.

Do you really think that a Westerner should go into business with an illiterate prostitute in a country he doesn't know much about? You've got to stop giving worthless advice like this.

Dan7373
03-13-18, 12:18
Try to cut out the agencies these days and you will find yourself in a world of trouble. You can't fight the system anywhere in Thailand. You have to go with the flow and work within it.From what I've read in this forum before, there are some examples of where massage ladies have gone into business for themselves and opened their own massage parlor. Some ladies from Tulip Massage have opened Snow White and some other places like that.

I don't think anybody will stop the ladies from doing this kind of stuff, when they understand the business from inside, know the right people, and know what to do.

And that's actually the reason why you need to have partners, who know the business, rather than try to do it by yourself. As a foreigner, you don't know enough of the local situation to succeed on your own.

I think many women, who are working in the business now, have enough know-how to succeed in a business like this, not just as managers, but also as business partners, who continue to do the massage work with customers. Because you can find examples, where such women have done exactly this.

Franciscass
03-13-18, 12:18
What makes for a successful P4P business in Bangkok or indeed anywhere? For me it's simple, having an interesting concept, good location, top class facilities, attractive trained staff, customer focused service, professional management, successful marketing and full compliance with all the requirements of the local "authorities". Did I miss anything?

Dan7373
03-13-18, 12:22
I was hoping your advice was just a joke, but then I saw you have over 900 posts, and most of them on the Thailand board.

Do you really think that a Westerner should go into business with an illiterate prostitute in a country he doesn't know much about? You've got to stop giving worthless advice like this.I think you should stop pre-judging people based on stereotypes, without knowing them personally. Because even the word 'prostitute' is a Western word that means something different from the way it works in Thailand.

You are imposing Western stereotypes on people in a non-Western country, where everything is different from the way it is in the West.

Goatscrot
03-13-18, 18:00
From what I've read in this forum before, there are some examples of where massage ladies have gone into business for themselves and opened their own massage parlor. Some ladies from Tulip Massage have opened Snow White and some other places like that.

I don't think anybody will stop the ladies from doing this kind of stuff, when they understand the business from inside, know the right people, and know what to do.

And that's actually the reason why you need to have partners, who know the business, rather than try to do it by yourself. As a foreigner, you don't know enough of the local situation to succeed on your own.

I think many women, who are working in the business now, have enough know-how to succeed in a business like this, not just as managers, but also as business partners, who continue to do the massage work with customers. Because you can find examples, where such women have done exactly this.Oily parlor yes. GoGo no.

UShobbyist
03-13-18, 23:41
Most newly opened bars in Nana have failed pretty quickly. The big competition really is to have enough pretty girls. This seems to make bars hire a lot of Coyotes from the Agency. Not clear to me why there are a lot of Ladyboy bars too. The bar scene does not look promising.

Some bars have managed to improve their line up of girls. Some their bars I would still have a look, however did not take a girl for several months. Not easy to pick out the good girls. The best sign for me is lovey dovey girls that start kissing in the bar. Any stand offish attitude and they are likely to be crap. Same applies to Cowboy, where have only been taking my regular girls for some extended time (one of those is shy to kiss in public but I know her well enough). I had a great girl at Billboard for a while but she found a Farang BF very quickly, hardly surprising.There are no topless girls in Billboard anymore and the lineup sucks.

Dan7373
03-14-18, 14:21
What makes for a successful P4P business in Bangkok or indeed anywhere? For me it's simple, having an interesting concept, good location, top class facilities, attractive trained staff, customer focused service, professional management, successful marketing and full compliance with all the requirements of the local "authorities". Did I miss anything?I'd say that you've missed the most important thing for any business to have. Which is the price of your service or product for customers.

Without money, there is no business. You need to make enough money to pay for all of the business expenses and have a reasonable surplus to pay yourself too. But the higher price you set, the fewer customers you will have. This is partly because of competition and partly because the higher the price, the fewer people can afford it. The higher the price, the smaller is your target market, and the fewer customers you will have.

You can have everything you've listed above. But if you get the price wrong, then your business might fail.

Franciscass
03-14-18, 17:32
I'd say that you've missed the most important thing for any business to have. Which is the price of your service or product for customers.

Without money, there is no business. You need to make enough money to pay for all of the business expenses and have a reasonable surplus to pay yourself too. But the higher price you set, the fewer customers you will have. This is partly because of competition and partly because the higher the price, the fewer people can afford it. The higher the price, the smaller is your target market, and the fewer customers you will have.

You can have everything you've listed above. But if you get the price wrong, then your business might fail.I've been in business all my life Dan. I've never opened a knocking shop but there are basic principles which apply to all businesses.

To avoid boring people I didn't go into detail on each of the requirements but as anybody with a passing acquaintance with the basics of marketing (which I did mention) knows price is one of the 4 P'S.

Where you pitch this depends on who your target customer is. I believe in Bangkok there a market for a high-end establishment charging a premium price for a premium product.

A lot depends on your budget which in turn especially in Bangkok depends on the terms of your lease. No point investing 10 mil. Plus on key money and fit out if the best lease you can get is three years. Here best go for the mass market with competitive pricing etc etc etc.

Margaya
03-14-18, 21:48
I used to get top notch service and reasonable quality from these two in the past. However last 3 years were pretty much duds. Judging by past few months' reports, things seems to be pretty much the same.

So am I correct in assuming that there are no gems with earth shattering service in these places anymore?

Secondly does anyone has any recommendations for threesomes at snow white or similar establishment except Tulip which I have shortlisted already?

Goatscrot
03-15-18, 08:47
I used to get top notch service and reasonable quality from these two in the past. However last 3 years were pretty much duds. Judging by past few months' reports, things seems to be pretty much the same.

So am I correct in assuming that there are no gems with earth shattering service in these places anymore?

Secondly does anyone has any recommendations for threesomes at snow white or similar establishment except Tulip which I have shortlisted already?Mango really dropped the ball when they added the 500 Baht "butt-penalty" IMHO. The girls are no better than SW, in fact I would say SW has a better lineup, yet they want to charge more and have not increased quality. I have no problem paying more if I am getting more. Boss is a bit more expensive but a far nicer experience overall. Gals are not PSE, but still quite fun.

Cherry IMHO is in need of renovations, its kind of grungy, and it just is not the most pleasant atmosphere. Just seems far from professional when compared with some of the other places.

When is someone going to open a PSE place with really hot gals? Think we would all be willing to pay for that. But again, we are in Thailand, and the better looking a gal is, the less she is willing to do.

Syzygies
03-15-18, 11:15
Had a good massage with happy ending at Cam Can lately http://www.cancam-massage.com.

Girls are younger / better looking than the average MP in the area, definatly not a PSE place though.

The fact 2/3 of the girls advertise no FS made me think this place could be good material for massage + happy ending in a japanese style.Can Cam had always had girls of above average looks causing me to be a sometime customer. I always had FS, although perhaps 2 girls were absolute crap for service, the rest okay To good.

So is it a "fact" that 2/3 do not provide sex? Sure some will be lazy once you paid the full all in price. I would have thought the market for just HJ would not be that strong.

Does it imply that some guys cannot get off on a BBBJ? I never had CBJ there that I can remember.

Sinofaguo
03-15-18, 14:58
So is it a "fact" that 2/3 do not provide sex? Sure some will be lazy once you paid the full all in price. http://www.cancam-massage.com/gals/ if you google translate the gals detailed services, most don't provide FS.

I don't call this lazy, they just offer whatever service they feel ok with to offer.

As long as they don't trick anyone, you are free not to go with those not providing the services you need.

One could argue the price should be different if the service is not the same but again as long as you have the choice and prefer paying beauty with HJ or CBJ over poor looks and FS, its a choice.


I would have thought the market for just HJ would not be that strong.There is a strong market for sexy university students giving massage in MPs with service usually limited to HJ, sometimes BJ and rarely FS.

These Thai website will give you an idea of the size of this market (50+ MPs listed), though most of them are in remote areas, very few in Sukhumvit.

www.kapooclub.com

www.kapooclubwebboard.net



Does it imply that some guys cannot get off on a BBBJ? I never had CBJ there that I can remember.Everyone sets their own boundaries. Having normal sexual life at home I'm just happy to have a very relaxing yet erotic happy ending massage.

I feel China and Japan do much better than Thailand on this topic but still, you can have good experiences, especially in japanese oriented shops.

Goatscrot
03-15-18, 15:47
if you google translate the gals detailed services, most don't provide FS.

I don't call this lazy, they just offer whatever service they feel ok with to offer.

As long as they don't trick anyone, you are free not to go with those not providing the services you need.

One could argue the price should be different if the service is not the same but again as long as you have the choice and prefer paying beauty with HJ or CBJ over poor looks and FS, its a choice.

There is a strong market for sexy university students giving massage in MPs with service usually limited to HJ, sometimes BJ and rarely FS.

These Thai website will give you an idea of the size of this market (50+ MPs listed), though most of them are in remote areas, very few in Sukhumvit.

www.kapooclub.com

www.kapooclubwebboard.net

Everyone sets their own boundaries. Having normal sexual life at home I'm just happy to have a very relaxing yet erotic happy ending massage.

I feel China and Japan do much better than Thailand on this topic but still, you can have good experiences, especially in japanese oriented shops.Sad really. The entire "I don't provide FS" and kapoo phenom. It's had a very negative effect on the scene. Owners and punters who allow this have really just decreased service levels for us all. Of course it all fits in nicely with the current conservative revival in Thailand where sex is seen to be beneath most women who fancy themselves women of higher status. Too bad guys just don't laugh and walk. If that happened enough, gals would be providing service if they wanted to earn money. I don't blame the gals at all. The blame rests with the punters who accept this crap.

Sinofaguo
03-15-18, 16:35
Sad really. The entire "I don't provide FS" and kapoo phenom. It's had a very negative effect on the scene. Owners and punters who allow this have really just decreased service levels for us all. Of course it all fits in nicely with the current conservative revival in Thailand where sex is seen to be beneath most women who fancy themselves women of higher status. Too bad guys just don't laugh and walk. If that happened enough, gals would be providing service if they wanted to earn money. I don't blame the gals at all. The blame rests with the punters who accept this crap.The scene as you call it can be diverse.

Kapoos for HJs, BJ Bar for BJs, Gogo / KTV for FS takeaway, Saunas for FS, soapies being MP hybrids offering both HJ / BJ and FS for intermediate price and the usual call girls or street girls for whatever you negotiate.

Kapoos have been around for a very very long time and are not related to a "conservative revival".

Some people on this forum seem to think the same Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Snow, Annies and Chrome and their clones on Sukumvit sois are representative from the MP scene in BKK as a whole.
They are not, its a very limited part of the scene, mostly farang oriented and there is much more to be experienced in BKK.

But I get your frustration, I have the same frustration you do when I go to a shop labbeled as providing erotic massage with HJ / BJ happy ending and instead I get a not so erotic massage and several requests of going FS because the girl wants a higher tip and spend less energy on the massage.

In the end its all about getting what you are being advertised for and getting what you are willingly paying for.

Lefeu
03-15-18, 18:51
...I believe in Bangkok there a market for a high-end establishment charging a premium price for a premium product...Are you thinking about opening something better than The Lord MP? Go for it, you've got one customer, who will show up a couple of times a year.

Opp44
03-16-18, 00:55
One could argue the price should be different if the service is not the same but again as long as you have the choice and prefer paying beauty with HJ or CBJ over poor looks and FS, its a choice.

There is a strong market for sexy university students giving massage in MPs with service usually limited to HJ, sometimes BJ and rarely FS.Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.

EihTooms
03-16-18, 02:45
The scene as you call it can be diverse.

Kapoos for HJs, BJ Bar for BJs, Gogo / KTV for FS takeaway, Saunas for FS, soapies being MP hybrids offering both HJ / BJ and FS for intermediate price and the usual call girls or street girls for whatever you negotiate.

Kapoos have been around for a very very long time and are not related to a "conservative revival".

-snip-Actually, I am only aware of one so-called "BJ Bar" where FS is not also on the menu; Bit Style. And maybe they are on board with that lately, too. I am not sure since I tried but could not get past their atrocious earlier environment to repeat after 2-3 times.

And I have gotten as many and often better blowjobs from go-go girls than I have gotten from most BJ Bargirls. I assume a go-go bargirl would provide a HJ but can't imagine why I would settle for that with a go-go girl (or any girl in Thailand for that matter). I am not a fan, but I am aware that many if not most soapies and MPs offer HJ, BJ and FS. Escorts, ditto. Freelancers, I don't know of anything routinely accepted as off the menu. Yes, I know there are individual girls in every type of venue who say no to BJ or no to FS and so on. I'm talking about the general rule.

So, as far as I know, the Kapoo option is the only recognized category of P4P service in Bangkok/Thailand where HJs are pretty much the only thing on the menu. Unless I missed one here.

Franciscass
03-16-18, 03:21
Are you thinking about opening something better than The Lord MP? Go for it, you've got one customer, who will show up a couple of times a year.I'm not a big fan of soapies. A thorough wash in bubbly suds followed by a body slide on an uncomfortable ribbed mattress is fine as a onetime been there done that experience but give me a laid back jacuzzi trip with an ice bucket and a vintage claret alongside anytime.

The lounge area and rooms would be in the style of a French bordello, lots of black stockings and lacy underwear with a super relaxed nonchalant atmosphere. However it would be staff selection and training and continuously maintaining these standards that distinguishes the place from the competition.

Admission should not be automatic and should reflect a certain clientele with a dress code which excludes loud bottom feeders.

Goatscrot
03-16-18, 08:16
The scene as you call it can be diverse.

Kapoos for HJs, BJ Bar for BJs, Gogo / KTV for FS takeaway, Saunas for FS, soapies being MP hybrids offering both HJ / BJ and FS for intermediate price and the usual call girls or street girls for whatever you negotiate.

Kapoos have been around for a very very long time and are not related to a "conservative revival".

Some people on this forum seem to think the same Tulip, Mango, Cherry, Snow, Annies and Chrome and their clones on Sukumvit sois are representative from the MP scene in BKK as a whole.
They are not, its a very limited part of the scene, mostly farang oriented and there is much more to be experienced in BKK.

But I get your frustration, I have the same frustration you do when I go to a shop labbeled as providing erotic massage with HJ / BJ happy ending and instead I get a not so erotic massage and several requests of going FS because the girl wants a higher tip and spend less energy on the massage.

In the end its all about getting what you are being advertised for and getting what you are willingly paying for.I don't remember Kapoos when I moved here almost 19 years ago. Soapies were still going strong then, and while not PSE were certainly GFE. Never had a problem with DFK or BBBJ then. Performance, numbers, and talent has declined at soapies. And yes, I think Kapoo massage is all about a gal wanting to make decent Baht without ever considering herself a "prostitute. " Whereas 20 years ago she would have been doing it all; now she doesn't have to, which is a very different frame of reference for her. So again, the better looking the gal, the less she has to do.

Whoreman
03-16-18, 17:48
Boss is a bit more expensive but a far nicer experience overall. Gals are not PSE, but still quite fun Any specific no baby girl you could recommend? The only time I went the service was ok but the mamasan lied about the girl not having a baby.

Robert Long
03-16-18, 19:46
I'm not a big fan of soapies. A thorough wash in bubbly suds followed by a body slide on an uncomfortable ribbed mattress is fine as a onetime been there done that experience but give me a laid back jacuzzi trip with an ice bucket and a vintage claret alongside anytime.

The lounge area and rooms would be in the style of a French bordello, lots of black stockings and lacy underwear with a super relaxed nonchalant atmosphere. However it would be staff selection and training and continuously maintaining these standards that distinguishes the place from the competition.

Admission should not be automatic and should reflect a certain clientele with a dress code which excludes loud bottom feeders.Yes and some nice Jazz music in the background for conversation reasons. None that shit they play in CH and some of the other GoGo's. BTW there was an item on the news this morning that showed the most trusted names World wide. Rolex was number 1 with many other high end names to follow. I think this proves your point that quality and atmosphere will bring in the money.

RL.

Goatscrot
03-17-18, 01:07
Any specific no baby girl you could recommend? The only time I went the service was ok but the mamasan lied about the girl not having a baby.Although a bit older, Pin is fun and no baby.

Syzygies
03-17-18, 07:45
Although a bit older, Pin is fun and no baby.Wow we are actually agreed, once more. Freaky! LOL No pornstar with me but definitely good fun. I don't know her age (somewhere between 30 and 40) but I reckon still in pretty good condition, and I guess no baby helped that. I would guess 32 to 35.

My GF is close to 40 and still in really hot excellent shape despite a baby (little visible effect and pussy still tight). So to me exact age is not very important.

She was perhaps too skinny at times in the past, but perfect for me now.

Some girls are in crap shape at 19. All that Khaow Niaow (sticky rice), noodles, slurpies, and junk in foil bags.

I have to wonder about some guys who can't get excited by a girl over 21. Seems a bit strange to be attracted to immaturity.

I take a pretty broad range of ages if girl is in good condition and reaches the legal minimum, but I prefer experienced girls, whether young or older.

My favourite working girls are 34,21, and 21 at the moment. The later two I have known since they were 18. They were experienced even then, I reckon. LOL.

Syzygies
03-17-18, 08:08
http://www.cancam-massage.com/gals/ if you google translate the gals detailed services, most don't provide FS.

I don't call this lazy, they just offer whatever service they feel ok with to offer.

One could argue the price should be different if the service is not the same but again as long as you have the choice and prefer paying beauty with HJ or CBJ over poor looks and FS, its a choice.

There is a strong market for sexy university students giving massage in MPs with service usually limited to HJ, sometimes BJ and rarely FS.

Everyone sets their own boundaries. Having normal sexual life at home I'm just happy to have a very relaxing yet erotic happy ending massage.
I have been to Can Cam quite a few times and previously reported on those girls. Had sex with all of them as far as can remember. Not one told me no sex and I do speak Thai. So I have to take the 2/3 with a grain of salt. One or two were real bad though so one could equate very bad with "virtually no sex". I will check out the web site translated. I have had sex with May 2 to 3 times I think (if same one), but web indicates she does FS. I like the look of Soda, so will be interesting to see if she really refuses sex. I wonder if this is a trick to request extra tip for sex. Will see in the future.

I find it strange that girls are into 69 but no sex. I have never experienced that before in Thailand. I was never a customer of any shop where sex was forbidden since Chawala 1 and 2, 27 years ago. LOL Even then, a lot of oral and fingering was going on.

For sure I want beauties, they don't have to be Uni Students, real or fake. I did have a very pretty Uni girl a few times who was working a bar occasionally when studies permitted. Coincidence. I was not looking for Uni girls.

I will happily take a 29 YO beauty. However lack of beauties is major reason I have had so few MP visits lately. So I guess I have to try Kapoo clubs providing I get to choose a girl without nose job, and not for a HJ. That would be a waste of money for me.

I would never pay for HJ myself, just my preference. I much prefer a soft BBBJ. I am sure President Bill would not regard either as sex, but I don't agree. I love fingering girls gently, so that is definitely "cheating" already. Fortunately my GF is not too concerned about me playing up. She has noticed a big drop off in me being absent, partly because I am getting better at home (but still not quite enough to make me totally faithful).

I go for just a BJ only really out of desperation or lack of time. When I used to go to BJ shop regularly, I almost always took Full Sex.

Pay the money, and are playing up. May as well take the full service is my attitude. I am very pussy oriented, obviously.

Franciscass
03-17-18, 19:15
Yes and some nice Jazz music in the background for conversation reasons. None that shit they play in CH and some of the other GoGo's. BTW there was an item on the news this morning that showed the most trusted names World wide. Rolex was number 1 with many other high end names to follow. I think this proves your point that quality and atmosphere will bring in the money.

RL.Playlist: Miles Davis, Chet baker, Etta James, Billy Holiday, Charlie Parker, Leonard Cohen, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Tom Waits, Van the Man, Nina Simone, Amy Winehouse and Ole Blue eyes singing Angle Eyes. Please feel area to expand on.

UShobbyist
03-17-18, 22:24
Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.In those joints, You might need to pay extra if you ask those "students" to take their tops off.

Vodkin
03-18-18, 04:29
Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.Addict has a couple of students. Mali is a good one.

Franciscass
03-18-18, 06:55
Playlist: Miles Davis, Chet baker, Etta James, Billy Holiday, Charlie Parker, Leonard Cohen, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Tom Waits, Van the Man, Nina Simone, Amy Winehouse and Ole Blue eyes singing Angle Eyes. Please feel area to expand on.Make that Ole Blue Eyes singing Angel Eyes.

Kirsia123
03-18-18, 09:18
Fellow hobbyists,

I have RTFF and I still want to make a quick poll here.

Can you please make a list of your favorite MP girls for outcall. I always bring the ladies back to my hotel.

I used to have quite a few regulars but they have quit turning tricks and I am looking to build a new list of regulars. In my last visit to BKK I tried My from SW. She was ok but won't make the cut to become a regular. I also met with a regular who is quite tall and not skinny. She is not fat either. She has a flexible body and take it up her ass. Happy to share her with fellow mongers who are sharing regulars on PM.

I am heading out to BKK sometime in the summer.

/ Kirsia.

Amnesia
03-18-18, 13:10
Any recommendations for places with sexy university students? HJ / BJ is fine; don't really need FS.1. Kapoo type MPs (Google for Kapoo Club).

2. Sideline girls, but you got to speak / read / write Thai (google for FanFinFin).

3. Thaifriendly / Tinder (score a freebie).

Lion55
03-18-18, 13:12
Fellow hobbyists,
Can you please make a list of your favorite MP girls for outcall. I always bring the ladies back to my hotel

/ Kirsia.Ying from Exotic Massage.

Aom from Snow White Massage.

Turgid
03-18-18, 21:04
Playlist: Miles Davis, Chet baker, Etta James, Billy Holiday, Charlie Parker, Leonard Cohen, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Tom Waits, Van the Man, Nina Simone, Amy Winehouse and Ole Blue eyes singing Angle Eyes. Please feel area to expand on.At the risk of being shouted at for irrelevance: Thelonius Monk, Dave Brubeck, Nat king Cole, Jackie Gleason, Stan Getz, Johnny Mathis.

Lion55
03-19-18, 00:55
I was in Bangkok this past weekend, staying near Nana. I was too lazy to head up to Soi 22 area so I decided to give Bamboo a try. The mamasan didn't offer an opportunity to view the lineup but in fairness I didn't ask so it might have been an option. She assigned Yok who turned out fine. Not a stunner, maybe 6/10 on looks but good performance. She has a bit of baby fat but with a cute figure and nice ass. Massage was above average. BJ was initially covered but with full DT action. FS (also covered) was really hot. We cycled through ACG, mish and CG. During the latter I massaged her clit with a finger which drove her wild and elicited an O which was accompanied by a squeal. When I finally pulled out we were both out of breath. When she noticed I hadn't come she insisted on giving it another try, noting that since I had made her come she needed to do the same. She removed the cover and started another round of BJ, this time uncovered. Technique was great, using both her mouth and hands and with full DT. I eventually erupted in her mouth after which we cuddled for a bit and finished with another shower. Again, only a 6 on looks but 8 on performance. I plan to repeat next time I'm in BKK.

Chacal60
03-19-18, 02:22
I was in Bangkok this past weekend, staying near Nana. I was too lazy to head up to Soi 22 area so I decided to give Bamboo a try. The mamasan didn't offer an opportunity to view the lineup but in fairness I didn't ask so it might have been an option. She assigned Yok who turned out fine. Not a stunner, maybe 6/10 on looks but good performance. She has a bit of baby fat but with a cute figure and nice ass. Massage was above average. BJ was initially covered but with full DT action. FS (also covered) was really hot. We cycled through ACG, mish and CG. During the latter I massaged her clit with a finger which drove her wild and elicited an O which was accompanied by a squeal. When I finally pulled out we were both out of breath. When she noticed I hadn't come she insisted on giving it another try, noting that since I had made her come she needed to do the same. She removed the cover and started another round of BJ, this time uncovered. Technique was great, using both her mouth and hands and with full DT. I eventually erupted in her mouth after which we cuddled for a bit and finished with another shower. Again, only a 6 on looks but 8 on performance. I plan to repeat next time I'm in BKK.


Wow we are actually agreed, once more. Freaky! LOL No pornstar with me but definitely good fun. I don't know her age (somewhere between 30 and 40) but I reckon still in pretty good condition, and I guess no baby helped that. I would guess 32 to 35.

My GF is close to 40 and still in really hot excellent shape despite a baby (little visible effect and pussy still tight). So to me exact age is not very important.

She was perhaps too skinny at times in the past, but perfect for me now.

Some girls are in crap shape at 19. All that Khaow Niaow (sticky rice), noodles, slurpies, and junk in foil bags.

I have to wonder about some guys who can't get excited by a girl over 21. Seems a bit strange to be attracted to immaturity.

I take a pretty broad range of ages if girl is in good condition and reaches the legal minimum, but I prefer experienced girls, whether young or older.

My favourite working girls are 34,21, and 21 at the moment. The later two I have known since they were 18. They were experienced even then, I reckon. LOL.My Thai GF is 38, and she's in the sweetspot for sexiness IMO: experienced enough to enjoy sex, and still in pleasant enough shape to be sexy. One kid but her body has kept up, nice natural boobs and ass, and she still gets a thrill from Western tongue and cock. A shame only that her English isn't good enough for more than a really basic conversation, and her blowjobs aren't great.

Franciscass
03-19-18, 06:09
At the risk of being shouted at for irrelevance: Thelonius Monk, Dave Brubeck, Nat king Cole, Jackie Gleason, Stan Getz, Johnny Mathis.I feel all of the senses should be stimulated when having sex and so sound or more specifically music has its part to play. As to being shouted down as being irrelevant fear not. With as much navel gazing as there is on the forum surely a little bit of culture will not be frowned on.

Syzygies
03-19-18, 14:03
Playlist: Miles Davis, Chet baker, Etta James, Billy Holiday, Charlie Parker, Leonard Cohen, John Coltrane, Aretha Franklin, Tom Waits, Van the Man, Nina Simone, Amy Winehouse and Ole Blue eyes singing Angle Eyes. Please feel area to expand on.This is not going to suit a wide audience (and count me out too). Most will prefer slightly more modern than that. LOL.

Music in a gogo bar has to be suitable for young girls to dance to, so that rules out most of this stuff. I don't say that Crazy House has the best dance music though. Too much thump and screech stuff, and clearly too loud that you don't want to be in front of a speaker.

Sheba bar had an excellent DJ before it closed, where the music suited both expats, younger customers and the girls somewhat.

Had some rock, latin, reggae, dance, even Issan music close to closing time etc. A good mix, but reasonably musical.

I recently went to Jungle Jim's and some customer was hogging the requests and requesting obscure head banging rock stuff that nobody liked except him I think. I did not even know any of the artists in the live videos. The girls could not dance to it. When I requested some more modern danceable songs I got dirty looks from him. LOL Mostly latin stuff I requested.

Syzygies
03-19-18, 14:13
My Thai GF is 38, and she's in the sweetspot for sexiness IMO: experienced enough to enjoy sex, and still in pleasant enough shape to be sexy. One kid but her body has kept up, nice natural boobs and ass, and she still gets a thrill from Western tongue and cock. A shame only that her English isn't good enough for more than a really basic conversation, and her blowjobs aren't great.Ditto from me. Only difference is I speak Thai. Then I have to sometimes listen to Buddhist philosophies from her. She expects me to believe in reincarnation and making merit this life to come back next time in a higher status. LOL.

Probably needs large amounts of practice for girls to give really expert BJs. If they are not very experienced, they suffer from jaw ache quite quickly as unnatural to keep mouth open so wide and have something large going down the throat. So understandable they may not be top experts in this field. Any reasonable attempt is OK for me. Fortunately I am OK with fairly short BJs moving on to FS. I prefer dick in pussy.

We have to bear in mind that DATY is not as demanding on the jaw as BJ and less gagging problems as well. In fact I can go a pretty long time with DATY providing I can breathe, without tiring.

Whoreman
03-19-18, 14:53
Although a bit older, Pin is fun and no baby.The over 30's don't really do much for me.

Franciscass
03-19-18, 14:55
This is not going to suit a wide audience (and count me out too). Most will prefer slightly more modern than that. LOL.

Music in a gogo bar has to be suitable for young girls to dance to, so that rules out most of this stuff. I don't say that Crazy House has the best dance music though. Too much thump and screech stuff, and clearly too loud that you don't want to be in front of a speaker.

Sheba bar had an excellent DJ before it closed, where the music suited both expats, younger customers and the girls somewhat.

Had some rock, latin, reggae, dance, even Issan music close to closing time etc. A good mix, but reasonably musical.

I recently went to Jungle Jim's and some customer was hogging the requests and requesting obscure head banging rock stuff that nobody liked except him I think. I did not even know any of the artists in the live videos. The girls could not dance to it. When I requested some more modern danceable songs I got dirty looks from him. LOL Mostly latin stuff I requested.I get our point that the playlist is not suitable for go go bars but our new high end bordello is aimed at a more sophisticated laid back educated clientele who appreciate a more cultured and refined atmosphere. As I said in a previous post it will be rather exclusive and will exclude bottom feeders but you will be more than welcome S. Incidentally I like Latin music particularly anything by Mario Bauza' Tito Puente, Dizzy's forays into the genre and of course the sensational Buena Vista Social Club.

Whoreman
03-19-18, 14:56
Addict has a couple of students. Mali is a good one.Can you share more info on her? She's not on the website. I don't care about her being a student or not but decent body with no baby damage?

Lion55
03-19-18, 15:57
e. Fortunately I am OK with fairly short BJs moving on to FS. I prefer dick in pussy.

We have to bear in mind that DATY is not as demanding on the jaw as BJ and less gagging problems as well. In fact I can go a pretty long time with DATY providing I can breathe, without tiring.Again we are in full agreement. We definitely need to meet up for a beer next time I'm in Bangkok.

Vodkin
03-19-18, 16:53
Can you share more info on her? She's not on the website. I don't care about her being a student or not but decent body with no baby damage?Mali is still listed on their website http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136.

She is 25 yo, white skin, trimmed, no baby damage, fine service. Was with be&be last year, stopped working for a while and went back to work at Addict.

Whoreman
03-19-18, 19:40
Mali is still listed on their website http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136.

She is 25 yo, white skin, trimmed, no baby damage, fine service. Was with be&be last year, stopped working for a while and went back to work at Addict.Thanks, I'll give her a go. I was being taken to an old Addict page. Good to see they've got a few students, even if one looks like a tranny.

Robert Long
03-19-18, 19:41
This is not going to suit a wide audience (and count me out too). Most will prefer slightly more modern than that. LOL.

Music in a gogo bar has to be suitable for young girls to dance to, so that rules out most of this stuff. I don't say that Crazy House has the best dance music though. Too much thump and screech stuff, and clearly too loud that you don't want to be in front of a speaker.

Sheba bar had an excellent DJ before it closed, where the music suited both expats, younger customers and the girls somewhat.

Had some rock, latin, reggae, dance, even Issan music close to closing time etc. A good mix, but reasonably musical.

I recently went to Jungle Jim's and some customer was hogging the requests and requesting obscure head banging rock stuff that nobody liked except him I think. I did not even know any of the artists in the live videos. The girls could not dance to it. When I requested some more modern danceable songs I got dirty looks from him. LOL Mostly latin stuff I requested.Come on S. They move a little and swing their hips. They are bored as ever and are excited to get off the stage and into a mans arms with an LD. I guess it's an age thing that we want a mellow place with class. Thais give us what they think we want. Or what sells.

And for music Latin Jazz and Brazilian Jazz can bring out the rhythm in anyone. I thinking mood that tickles the sense of hearing as well as the sense of sight.

RL.

Whoreman
03-20-18, 03:26
Why not take the go go bar discussion into the appropriate thread?

Member #4591
03-20-18, 16:45
After trying the Lord out a few times, I wanted a change. Depspite some of the bad press this place has received on the board recently, I decided to check it out for myself. It was a Friday evening around 11:00 Pm. The girls from the fish bowl move upstairs to the model floor and Mix in with the models. At this time, there was about 25 girls. I chose May. Nice long legs, tanned skin but on the whiter side, and natural see cups. In the room it was a slow start. Lots of prep time which got me worried. 4,800 Baht and I didn't want to be ripped off for my time. They give you 2 hours. Literally after 30 minutes of prep time, waiting and chit chat, we were in the bath. A nice wash and it allowed me to admire her body. Onto the bed, she asked if I wanted oil or cream for the massage. I said skip the massage and let's get down to it. Started off with a decent BBBJ amd then she slipped the cover on. Nice view in cowgirl and then switched to mish. I was really getting a good rythym going in mish but couldn't cum. Then switched to doggy and admired that ass. After a good 30 minutes of pounding away, I still couldn't cum. What the hell. This girl was beautiful. Doggy turned into reverse mish with her face down in the pillow. Another 20 minutes went by, still no cumming. I was close so many times but nothing could seem to push me over the edge. At one point I pulled out to take a break and noticed the condom hard come off Inside her, I had thought the feeling was really good. Still didn't finish. Anyways to make a long story short, there was another 45 minutes of straight sex and this girl didn't complain one time. She took it like a champ. At about 1:15 AM I decided to call it a night but this girl was completely willing to continue for the final 15 minutes.

Syzygies
03-21-18, 10:06
Mali is still listed on their website http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/index.php?mo=10&art=42313136.

She is 25 yo, white skin, trimmed, no baby damage, fine service. Was with be&be last year, stopped working for a while and went back to work at Addict.But fake tits, right? Guessing from the pic where they look somewhat over rounded on top (could be just a ridiculous bra I guess).

Don't know if anyone has similar taste to me. LOL. Based on the pics, I would like to hear any comments (especially re attitude, surgeries and body condition) on Kai-Mook (means Pearl), May, Michelle, AA, Cherry, and Nana. I guess a couple of these appear to have nose jobs, but maybe not too nasty.

It's hard for me to choose very quickly in a line up when the body is hidden. LOL.

Perhaps Tan would be safer for me, as looks quite skinny. LOL Probably no tits.

Engine Driver
03-21-18, 12:01
But fake tits, right? Guessing from the pic where they look somewhat over rounded on top (could be just a ridiculous bra I guess).

Don't know if anyone has similar taste to me. LOL. Based on the pics, I would like to hear any comments (especially re attitude, surgeries and body condition) on Kai-Mook (means Pearl), May, Michelle, AA, Cherry, and Nana. I guess a couple of these appear to have nose jobs, but maybe not too nasty.

It's hard for me to choose very quickly in a line up when the body is hidden. LOL.

Perhaps Tan would be safer for me, as looks quite skinny. LOL Probably no tits.What about Paint, Fanta and Music? Got to love their names. Some girls don't look quite right.

Goatscrot
03-21-18, 13:44
But fake tits, right? Guessing from the pic where they look somewhat over rounded on top (could be just a ridiculous bra I guess).

Don't know if anyone has similar taste to me. LOL. Based on the pics, I would like to hear any comments (especially re attitude, surgeries and body condition) on Kai-Mook (means Pearl), May, Michelle, AA, Cherry, and Nana. I guess a couple of these appear to have nose jobs, but maybe not too nasty.

It's hard for me to choose very quickly in a line up when the body is hidden. LOL.

Perhaps Tan would be safer for me, as looks quite skinny. LOL Probably no tits.Some great looking gals at Addict, but no performance standards. If they were all guaranteed performers, I'd be a regular customer.

Whoreman
03-21-18, 14:58
What about Paint, Fanta and Music? Got to love their names. Some girls don't look quite right.Definitely some look like trannies. They're probably not, more likely to be a victim of bad genes and bad surgery.

Whoreman
03-21-18, 15:03
But fake tits, right? Guessing from the pic where they look somewhat over rounded on top (could be just a ridiculous bra I guess).

Don't know if anyone has similar taste to me. LOL. Based on the pics, I would like to hear any comments (especially re attitude, surgeries and body condition) on Kai-Mook (means Pearl), May, Michelle, AA, Cherry, and Nana. I guess a couple of these appear to have nose jobs, but maybe not too nasty.

It's hard for me to choose very quickly in a line up when the body is hidden. LOL.

Perhaps Tan would be safer for me, as looks quite skinny. LOL Probably no tits.LOL? Do you actually sit there laughing at yourself as you type?

Michelle got a good review here so I went looking for her a couple of times but she's always busy.

I'm also very reluctant to try out new girls there who haven't been reviewed due to bad experiences in the past but based on reports here, Michelle and Mali are both on my to-do list.

ParkVille
03-21-18, 23:36
After trying the Lord out a few times, I wanted a change. Depspite some of the bad press this place has received on the board recently, I decided to check it out for myself. It was a Friday evening around 11:00 Pm. The girls from the fish bowl move upstairs to the model floor and Mix in with the models. At this time, there was about 25 girls. I chose May. Nice long legs, tanned skin but on the whiter side, and natural see cups. In the room it was a slow start. Lots of prep time which got me worried. 4,800 Baht and I didn't want to be ripped off for my time. They give you 2 hours. Literally after 30 minutes of prep time, waiting and chit chat, we were in the bath. A nice wash and it allowed me to admire her body. Onto the bed, she asked if I wanted oil or cream for the massage. I said skip the massage and let's get down to it. Started off with a decent BBBJ amd then she slipped the cover on. Nice view in cowgirl and then switched to mish. I was really getting a good rythym going in mish but couldn't cum. Then switched to doggy and admired that ass. After a good 30 minutes of pounding away, I still couldn't cum. What the hell. This girl was beautiful. Doggy turned into reverse mish with her face down in the pillow. Another 20 minutes went by, still no cumming. I was close so many times but nothing could seem to push me over the edge. At one point I pulled out to take a break and noticed the condom hard come off Inside her, I had thought the feeling was really good. Still didn't finish. Anyways to make a long story short, there was another 45 minutes of straight sex and this girl didn't complain one time. She took it like a champ. At about 1:15 AM I decided to call it a night but this girl was completely willing to continue for the final 15 minutes.A lot of girls are high on what most people call "yaba. " But really, more like pure meth, "ya ice. " Yaba though is actually a pill with meth + caffeine that bus drivers and factory workers take to work long shifts. I'd reckon half or so of girls working in soapies / brothels in Bangkok / Pattaya are on ya ice. Because, just as you said, she can have sex for 1. 5 hours like a champ (hell, I'd bet she could do it for a lot more hours, up to 10). Plus, it makes their work easier because it makes them more horny and they are naturally inclined to have sex. So, they basically get high then go to work. Some won't work without that kind of medicine and while on a crash / comedown will not come in for work that day.

Syzygies
03-22-18, 12:25
A lot of girls are high on what most people call "yaba. " But really, more like pure meth, "ya ice. " Yaba though is actually a pill with meth + caffeine that bus drivers and factory workers take to work long shifts. I'd reckon half or so of girls working in soapies / brothels in Bangkok / Pattaya are on ya ice. Because, just as you said, she can have sex for 1. 5 hours like a champ (hell, I'd bet she could do it for a lot more hours, up to 10). Plus, it makes their work easier because it makes them more horny and they are naturally inclined to have sex. So, they basically get high then go to work. Some won't work without that kind of medicine and while on a crash / comedown will not come in for work that day.Yaa (Yah) means medicine. LOL.

Yaa Baa (Crazy Pills) was in heavy use for years, and got replaced somewhat by "Ice" (Thais might call it Yaa Eye since they can't pronounce Ice) for Gogo girls. I don't really know how much Yaa Baa is still in use. I spell with a double A, since it is a long Ah sound. Sounds a lot like Yar Bar, with strong emphasis on 2nd word.

Suzie Wong had lots of girls high on Ice say 3 to 4 years back until the bar had to ban it completely from use inside the venue. Many girls used it to control their weight. Smoke Ice instead of eating I guess.

I don't have much knowledge about Soapy girls being on Ice other than probably some at Annies (a bad example). My regular experience with soapies was before Ice became popular.

I used to do a bargirl, who was a bit of an over user of Ice, booze, gambling, you name it, everything possible was wrong, but she could be fun. She eventually had a baby to a Thai boy which spoiled her figure, and became too crazy to deal with eventually.

Naturally I prefer girls who don't rely on Ice. Bargirls can become wayward enough just from Tequilas or Yaa Dong (an alcoholic drink mixed up by the bar with herbs). So Yaa Dong drink should be the preferred method for girls to lose shyness.

Yaa has a few different meanings depending on the tone:
Mid Tone it means Medicine.
Low tone it means "Don't (do that)"
Falling Tone it means Grass (or weeds)
Other two tones possibly have no meaning.

JoseNosay
03-22-18, 15:12
I'm no political expert on Thailand, but applying some basic logic and it's easy enough to work out the reason for the decline.


3. Thailand is keen to rid itself of its reputation for vice and as a destination for sex tourism. The sex industry catering for foreigners makes up a tiny portion of Thailand's economy, so if it were to be phased out, it would not impact on its GDP in any way. I'm speculating here, but some of the foreign aid which Thailand receives from left-leaning, do-gooder nations (like Sweden, Norway and Canada) might be conditional on the country showing progress in cleaning up the sex trade..There will be no decline, sex will always be for sale, circumstances will change.

Thailand is progressing, which is a great thing, nothing beats a 1st world country with less restricted population movement. If Thailand keeps the momentum, it will become the Global center for many activities, classy forms of prostitution will obviously be one of them. Thai males are very masculine, so unlike nations that have a strong maternal genetic domination (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh) all had female presidents, despite being Muslim or conservative Hindu, which obviously led to the miserable Sex Industry. Dubai is a Muslim state, but its male dominated which allowed the growth of the Sex industry, Thailand will always have a Sex industry for the same reason.

The Sex clients demographic and class will change, more local Thai men will become economically powerful and increase their share of the consumers percentage. The girls will be more diverse and less desperate, the females working will be in it because they love doing it. Not sure if genetics will play a role, but more than likely the Non-Thai historic accumulation of monger off-spring will be the main element serving the needs of the local Thai males. If you play close attention this is already true for Ladyboys, there is a cultural trend in Thailand that favors Taller Ladyboys many tend to have exotic features and atypical body shapes, that we can easily associate with foreigners genetic contribution. The decision to become a ladybody seems to foreign the existence of foreign blood.

At this growth rate give Thailand a decade and so, then pretty females from diverse backgrounds will be in the market, the prices will go up and the majority of the clients will be local better off males. Which means the industry will grow in size. The legacy, freedom of the past will make Thailand better than other cities whose industry is less organic than Thailand.

Make sure you have more money for the future, otherwise the budget market might shift to whatever nations are in that economic situation.

If you have money you will buy sex, anywhere even in the most conservative places on Earth you can simply buy the prettiest wife. In the most advanced 1st world nation you can hire the most beautiful 19 yo high school grad to be your personal assistant, the only issue is how much money you are willing to spend on this.

Whoreman
03-22-18, 16:41
A lot of girls are high on what most people call "yaba. " But really, more like pure meth, "ya ice. " Yaba though is actually a pill with meth + caffeine that bus drivers and factory workers take to work long shifts. I'd reckon half or so of girls working in soapies / brothels in Bangkok / Pattaya are on ya ice. Because, just as you said, she can have sex for 1. 5 hours like a champ (hell, I'd bet she could do it for a lot more hours, up to 10). Plus, it makes their work easier because it makes them more horny and they are naturally inclined to have sex. So, they basically get high then go to work. Some won't work without that kind of medicine and while on a crash / comedown will not come in for work that day.I think you're jumping to conclusions if you think this girl must've been on ice just because she took it like a champ. I should think it leads to erratic behaviour that would be fine in a go go bar but would lead to complaints in a soapy. Also, I don't recall any of the recent raids on soapies uncovered drug use.

Ice use would definitely explain the bizarre conduct of My at Snow White though.

Goatscrot
03-22-18, 17:31
Ice use would definitely explain the bizarre conduct of My at Snow White though.Nah, My is just a strange gal who has had a lot of issues to deal with. Bad demanding family, etc. Don't think there is a drug issue there, especially considering the weight gain.

Kirsia123
03-23-18, 06:12
I did My back in November and she was pretty slim. I would say that she was a little strange. I will not repeat but it is not due to any weight gain.


Nah, My is just a strange gal who has had a lot of issues to deal with. Bad demanding family, etc. Don't think there is a drug issue there, especially considering the weight gain.

Goatscrot
03-23-18, 08:46
I did My back in November and she was pretty slim. I would say that she was a little strange. I will not repeat but it is not due to any weight gain.She is quite a bit heavier than she was 4 years ago. That is what I am referring to.

Syzygies
03-23-18, 10:55
There will be no decline, sex will always be for sale, circumstances will change.

Thailand is progressing, which is a great thing, nothing beats a 1st world country with less restricted population movement. If Thailand keeps the momentum, it will become the Global center for many activities, classy forms of prostitution will obviously be one of them. Thai males are very masculine, so unlike nations that have a strong maternal genetic domination (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh) all had female presidents, despite being Muslim or conservative Hindu, which obviously led to the miserable Sex Industry. Dubai is a Muslim state, but its male dominated which allowed the growth of the Sex industry, Thailand will always have a Sex industry for the same reason.

The Sex clients demographic and class will change, more local Thai men will become economically powerful and increase their share of the consumers percentage. The girls will be more diverse and less desperate, the females working will be in it because they love doing it. Not sure if genetics will play a role, but more than likely the Non-Thai historic accumulation of monger off-spring will be the main element serving the needs of the local Thai males. If you play close attention this is already true for Ladyboys, there is a cultural trend in Thailand that favors Taller Ladyboys many tend to have exotic features and atypical body shapes, that we can easily associate with foreigners genetic contribution. The decision to become a ladybody seems to foreign the existence of foreign blood.

At this growth rate give Thailand a decade and so, then pretty females from diverse backgrounds will be in the market, the prices will go up and the majority of the clients will be local better off males. Which means the industry will grow in size. The legacy, freedom of the past will make Thailand better than other cities whose industry is less organic than Thailand.

Make sure you have more money for the future, otherwise the budget market might shift to whatever nations are in that economic situation.

If you have money you will buy sex, anywhere even in the most conservative places on Earth you can simply buy the prettiest wife. In the most advanced 1st world nation you can hire the most beautiful 19 yo high school grad to be your personal assistant, the only issue is how much money you are willing to spend on this.Not sure why you bother to write all this speculative stuff about what might happen "in your dreams". Would be better to compare today with years ago and observe what "actually" seemed to happen.

The Decline already happened. It is not in terms of being able to hookers, but naturally is a lot about what you get for your money, change in girls attitudes, how they are much more interested in what is happening on their smart phone, how they are not as poor as they used to be, how they can afford to not work most days, etc. Pretty half-half girls do have good opportunities to become models or Tv stars etc.

Their are very few half Farang girls working as hookers except perhaps as very high class Escorts demanding a lot of money, one comes to mind, or top shelf places for Thais and other Asian men. Half Farang ladyboys seems to be even less likely since Farang blood will spoil their delicate features, Farang male genes just making them too big. Males are naturally taller already. I don't recall seeing too many obviously half caste ladyboys at all.

There are already plenty of extremely rich Thais and plenty with low money. That a higher percentage will be extremely rich seems unlikely.

The Thai sex Industry will grow according to you. Sounds silly to me. Just look at the growth of the sex industry in Sweden, due to increased affluence. Ha ha! A very large sex industry is based around hookers not having the education levels to be able to get alternative well paid jobs, and dependent on religious, cultural values and the law.

I would say their is a strong reverse correlation between affluence of a country and percentage of hookers, bearing in mind that religion and cultural aspects play a big part too.

I would love to see figures for what percentage of visitors to Thailand are using the sex industry. I would be very surprised if it insignificant, among single male adult visitors.

India is also reported to have a very large number of hookers. I can't comment if that industry is miserable or not.

Prostitution is driven by poverty according to most sources. In Europe a large percentage ofprostitutes come from Romania and Bulgaria, as these are the poorest countries, but the girls can cross to more affluent countries where the customers have more money. Rich guys can use hookers daily.

In case of Thailand, some hookers manage to get overseas to work but their are (or used to be) plenty of customers, local and visitors with plenty of money. If Thailand was much more affluent, then there would be a bigger need to get hookers from Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia, etc. , which has been cracked down on, as was a big means to make a lot of money for traffickers.

I would say that the crackdown on non Thai nationals here, plus girls too young would have caused a big decline in the sex industry. Some places were shut down. Many Soapies have massively reduced business compared to the pre economic crises era (pre Thaksin). I have observed it. Bad economic times means that Thais had less money to spend, but also the political crackdowns have their effect.

When I go to a Soapy like Chao Praya 2, the girl line up is very small compared to what it was 15 to 20 years ago, and mostly an older fatter age bracket. Do you think this line up can pull the same customers they used to get, without all the non Thai nationals they used to have? No way. Government regulations and crackdowns have their effect.

Why do major go-go bar areas get progressively taken over by Ladyboys, and Coyotes? Because the supply of pretty hookers in good shape was dwindling and the level of customers was dwindling. Why do new bars close down so soon after opening? Is this not a decline?

JoseNosay
03-23-18, 15:05
I don't recall seeing too many obviously half caste ladyboys at all.In general I sense Ladyboys are taller than the average Male Thai, many also tend to have exotic facial structure. Not all mixed Thai-Farang are going to look obviously mixed, of course a thorough why-DNA testing on the Ladyboy population will answer that question once and for all. If bought at wholesale its about 40 a pop.


There are already plenty of extremely rich Thais and plenty with low money. That a higher percentage will be extremely rich seems unlikely.They will be more Thai males who have the same purchasing power as an average farang today, the gap been closing in the last decades and if you look at Bangkok stats its pretty much has the most consistent economic growth of any big city world wide.

GDP Per Capita in Bangkok Nominal / PPP.

Bangkok 1980 - $2500/$5500.

Bangkok 1990 - $4500/$10000.

Bangkok 2000 - $5500/$12500.

Bangkok 2013 - $15000/$38000.

Bangkok 2018 - $16000/$40500.

I am not going to point out to the higher numbers in Rayong-Pattaya as those numbers mean less because Rayong population is much smaller than Bangkok. Compare that growth rate to any big city and you will see why I think Bangkok is on its way to be a much wealthier city.


The Thai sex Industry will grow according to you. Sounds silly to me. Just look at the growth of the sex industry in Sweden, due to increased affluence. Ha ha! A very large sex industry is based around hookers not having the education levels to be able to get alternative well paid jobs, and dependent on religious, cultural values and the law.That is more due to he nature of Sweden (big scarcely populated country, with a population that is not open to casual social interaction, let alone sex) that makes it a sexually repressive place, affluence in relevance to the world is a necessity up there, otherwise why would humans evolve in those cold climate harsh conditions. People who live north of Hamburg are historically known to maintain some kind of high living standards, otherwise they take their ships to warmer waters, start trading / raiding and my guess that is where they did their mongering. The people who live closer to the warm regions, experience more economic volatility, the easier forms of life, makes poverty a byproduct of living in a relaxed warm climate.

When I go to a Soapy like Chao Praya 2, the girl line up is very small compared to what it was 15 to 20 years ago, and mostly an older fatter age bracket. Do you think this line up can pull the same customers they used to get, without all the non Thai nationals they used to have? No way. Government regulations and crackdowns have their effect.


Why do major go-go bar areas get progressively taken over by Ladyboys, and Coyotes? Because the supply of pretty hookers in good shape was dwindling and the level of customers was dwindling. Why do new bars close down so soon after opening? Is this not a decline?The economic growth will deprive the older places of talent, if a 20 yo Thai girl is a 9/10 she will more than likely make more money working for Wealthy Thai males, it has an advantage to her because it elevates her status in society, she still has to meet the sexual needs of Wealthy Thai males (regardless of the job setting), but its less stigmatic for her. As of now the majority of the girls serving the farang are mainly from impoverished districts of Isan, where the GDP per capita is a fraction of that in Bangkok, so the transition will not be overnight. Until every girl in Isan meets her financial goals, then it will be a transition into an upmarket.

JoseNosay
03-23-18, 18:12
Prostitution is driven by poverty according to most sources. In Europe a large percentage ofprostitutes come from Romania and Bulgaria, as these are the poorest countries, but the girls can cross to more affluent countries where the customers have more money. Rich guys can use hookers daily.

In case of Thailand, some hookers manage to get overseas to work but their are (or used to be) plenty of customers, local and visitors with plenty of money. If Thailand was much more affluent, then there would be a bigger need to get hookers from Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia, etc. , which has been cracked down on, as was a big means to make a lot of money for traffickers.?In general poverty is the result of a relaxed lifestyle, Romania is much more laid back than Sweden or Germany. So the sex trade will not change a lot, Romania is now getting a bit better, but many of the pretty girls switched to webcam because they have easy access to a global audience and Romanians are more open-minded about having video history.

If Bangkok prices increase, it will attract higher quality girls.

The mass trafficked girls are not always the best, they usually include lower quality order fillers and girls who are not interested in the business, so maybe the authorities are doing the right thing. I highly doubt the Thai authorities will be angry if pretty girls become frequent flyers into Bangkok, for now any pretty girl or her BF will not want to work in Bangkok, because the prices are so low and they can make much more Money in higher paying cities. This is the issue with high Quality, high quality will go to high payers, that is why I consider Bangkok economic growth as a good sign. (at least there will be improvement in the high quality category).

Finding pretty looking girls is very hard, making them available to other males is even harder. So its only logical, high quality will not be available to everybody.

JoseNosay
03-24-18, 11:02
India is also reported to have a very large number of hookers. I can't comment if that industry is miserable or not.India has to be the hardest place on Earth for a Punter, the best Indian girls are in the Tri-state region in the USA, followed by the UK and Dubai Indians, those are above average as they might represent selective choices by better off Indian males who had more choices.

In Mumbai the most progressive city in India the only place you will find girls in big numbers is in the ultra-seedy Kamathipura, pimps are Afghan-like types, very pushy and get mad when you refuse to take what they offer, many of the doors have dungeon like gates with actual bars! The place is best described as miserable, average looking rural girls locked up and bored. The few clubs have out of shape light skin girls with ten guys throwing money at her, then the only acceptable option is the massage spas with the always dependable Thai girls, to be fair some of the Thai girls in India are good looking, but the price for FS is 3 x the price in Thailand. The next big place is in Calcutta the formerly Islamic Old Sufi district, interesting historic place that looks like its managed by the same people who manage Kamathipura. Bit more Nepalese and Old Bengali women, Indian punters seem okay with that, as they were actively taking them. So it will remain the same, in the Southern parts of India Massage places will audaciously try to push [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) boys on you and act distraught when you walk away! In Bangladesh its slightly better, but only restricted to Spas and Apts, Decent looking Thai girls work in the spas, maybe a bit better looking than what we the average girl in Nana, but the price is 3 x.

Goatscrot
03-24-18, 12:54
So, the new game at Addict is as follows: they took the better looking gals, put them in street clothes, and are calling them "models. " Asking 4 k Baht for one hour for them. Same gals that were the regular price before and I am sure the same service. Wonder who thinks this is going to bring them more money? What would bring them more money? Keeping the prices the same and raising the performance standards. But with the current attitudes displayed by the P4 P gals in BKK, that would never work.

Whoreman
03-24-18, 16:28
So, the new game at Addict is as follows: they took the better looking gals, put them in street clothes, and are calling them "models. " Asking 4 k Baht for one hour for them. Same gals that were the regular price before and I am sure the same service. Wonder who thinks this is going to bring them more money? What would bring them more money? Keeping the prices the same and raising the performance standards. But with the current attitudes displayed by the P4 P gals in BKK, that would never work.Damn. Does that mean the "students" on the website are now 4000 baht or is this a different group of girls? I was going to try Mali tomorrow but I'm not paying 4000 baht for her if she was going for 2000 just a few days ago.

Atrimat
03-24-18, 17:40
India has to be the hardest place on Earth for a Punter, the best Indian girls are in the Tri-state region in the USA, followed by the UK and Dubai Indians, those are above average as they might represent selective choices by better off Indian males who had more choices.

In Mumbai the most progressive city in India the only place you will find girls in big numbers is in the ultra-seedy Kamathipura, pimps are Afghan-like types, very pushy and get mad when you refuse to take what they offer, many of the doors have dungeon like gates with actual bars! The place is best described as miserable, average looking rural girls locked up and bored. The few clubs have out of shape light skin girls with ten guys throwing money at her, then the only acceptable option is the massage spas with the always dependable Thai girls, to be fair some of the Thai girls in India are good looking, but the price for FS is 3 x the price in Thailand. The next big place is in Calcutta the formerly Islamic Old Sufi district, interesting historic place that looks like its managed by the same people who manage Kamathipura..Hi bro,

I am not a regular in this forum. I am curious about Thailand mongering and have started visiting Thai forums occasionally.

I am writing to give my opinion on India mongering activity when I saw this post. India has good opportunities. The Areas like Kamathipura are there in each city of India. There are typically Red Light areas or districts with low cost options.

The bars that you mentioned are kind of girl enjoying places and pick up points too. Some have attached ST facility.

Then come massage parlors and spas that are spread over. There are many options in this. FS is rare in SPA and MP however can't be completely ruled out.

Then comes the ST & LT girls with SP and then comes indies. All at a price range and you need to be good bargainer to get a value for money.

For details, India has many forums which you may browse to gain more insight.

Yes, the sex trade is not legal in India as most of the coubtries and you have to be careful about LE. However, all the above that I mentioned have their own way of ensuring safety.

Hope this gives some insight into India.

One question: is Thailand costs are 1/3 of that in India? I don't think so. Kindly advise.

Margaya
03-25-18, 02:50
Visited 2/3 times. On Friday selection was dead at 8 pm but sat was better. Had about 6-8 girls so Tried Vicki. From Isan and has baby. To her credit she was reasonably enthusiastic. The overall session was OK, not like the good old days.

Had shower together, lot of DFK and BBBJ in shower and later on. DATY, pussy rubbing and usual positions were all on the menu and cheerfully dispensed. Natural tits. Her body, unfortunately is not my type but still it was not hard to cum LOL.

Candy massage girls were always sitting outside and aggressively soliciting so had to cave in when I could not find anyone doable at other shops in the vicinity. Chose May or June. Short, slightly plump, natural tits and cheerful demeanor. Her stomach has lot of baby damage but her attitude was satisfactory. The session was not a memorable one, no fire crackers here but overall she delivered and tried hard to please with co-ed shower, massage, Russian, fingering etc.

Sadly there was nothing worthwhile in cherry, can cam massage and allstars. These shops used to be well stocked with at least one girl that looked OKAY but not this time.

Things are till sliding or going sideways in BKK massage shops.

1900 bahts and all shops for 1 hour.

Omigawd
03-25-18, 05:37
SW still is way ahead when comes to performance. Visited multiple times and was able to find one girl every time I was there. The best session was with Nana. This woman still delivers the earth shattering performance that was common 5-10 years ago. Lot of playing, kissing, GFE experience before shower. Lot of deep, deep BJ in shower and more kissing. Hello of lot more NJ and kissing after shower, may be as long as 20 minutes. Incredible stamina. Can take pounding like crazy. Tried many positions. This was certainly the best romp I had during this trip.

Pim is next lady I had. She is kinda beautiful but has a bit full figure. Small, firm boobs and nice smile. But performance was sub par and no where near SW standard.

Kum is another excellent performer at SW. A bit on bulky side as her frame is bigger than normal.

Thai ladies, has decent boobs. Gets taken very fast so book her early. The performance was fantastic, lot of GFE, kissing, DFK, DATY, fingering, anal etc. Very impressed with her skills and highly recommended.

Whoreman
03-25-18, 06:02
This is clearly not the right thread for discussions about the socio-economics of the sex trade or mongering in India. Kindly take them to a more relevant thread so other people don't have to wade through them before finding the relevant posts.

Whoreman
03-25-18, 07:16
The students are still 2000 baht. The 4000 baht ones must be a different set of 'supermodels'.

MichaelSamuel
03-25-18, 07:48
I second Goats' WTF. No girl on 24 is a 4 k thb girl unless you are getting a card of provided pse services and a good look at the body uncovered before hand. I tried 101 last year and the nicer facilities are worth a small amount. But honestly since they did a little facelift on the walls at SW not that big a difference to me. Those addict uniforms are more fantasy and less delivery as they hide too much, even they real beauties get hidden too much. Will be interesting to see how long they can keep up the 4 k. Though as I read everyday it shocks me on the newbie experiences that haven't read and done their research. I am definitely getting cynical, but there are just less and less places left in the world someone isn't trying to run a scam on you. USA is just as bad as others, just done with a bit more class, still too many people trying to get something for nothing.


So, the new game at Addict is as follows: they took the better looking gals, put them in street clothes, and are calling them "models. " Asking 4 k Baht for one hour for them. Same gals that were the regular price before and I am sure the same service. Wonder who thinks this is going to bring them more money? What would bring them more money? Keeping the prices the same and raising the performance standards. But with the current attitudes displayed by the P4 P gals in BKK, that would never work.

Whoreman
03-25-18, 09:19
I second Goats' WTF. No girl on 24 is a 4 k thb girl unless you are getting a card of provided pse services and a good look at the body uncovered before hand.If they really are the same kind of 'supermodels' guys are throwing money at in The Lord then I don't see a problem with it. It gives us an opportunity to try out those girls without the racist surcharge. And if the other girls, including the students, are still 2000 baht then everyone's happy.

If the 4000 baht girls are not worth the money then customers won't pay.

AssLover945
03-25-18, 10:35
Last Wednesday I was horny and it was a hot afternoon in Bangkok, so I wanted to get a shower.

While passing by I saw this lovely lady (pic attached) who was all sprightly and soliciting with full gutso.

I asked her if I could take a pic, she replied only if I took her.

Normally my decision is based on chemistry. She promised me heaven and more and her eyes did the other half of the job.

I caved in.

Quick shower, BBBJ in shower, but the shower was too small, so I told her to do on bed after shower, lots of touchy touchy in the shower.

She had a tattoo, but it didn't look bad, in fact it added to her badness. 555.

I foamed her ass and cookie, no withdrawal, which gave me an early indication, that A+ might be available.

Dried up, then on to bed, 69 and it was a long 69, maybe a good 15 minutes and she was soaking wet.

I dipped my thumb a few times into her behind and she was fine.

Flipped her over and she pulled out the rubber and asked "front" or "back", that was such a huge turn-on for me, that I decided to go for A+.

And boy o boy what energy! She met every thrust of mine with equally forcefull thrust from her. I felt thoroughly loved and I lasted maybe less than 10 minutes.

2nd round was a repeat but this time I alternated between "front" and "back".

WIR: Yes.

Syzygies
03-25-18, 13:01
So, the new game at Addict is as follows: they took the better looking gals, put them in street clothes, and are calling them "models. " Asking 4 k Baht for one hour for them. Same gals that were the regular price before and I am sure the same service. Wonder who thinks this is going to bring them more money? What would bring them more money? Keeping the prices the same and raising the performance standards. But with the current attitudes displayed by the P4 P gals in BKK, that would never work.Ha ha. Amusing. I have yet to see any stunners at Addict, even if a small percentage might be close to model body, so I will be surprised if the 4 k girls would appeal at all. My favourite girl there (long gone) had at best a moderate face (good enough body good 69 and good GFE) Yes I would like to inspect them with their clothes off before choosing, so we can see there is no disaster. However 1 hour? I can't see that being enough for me except when I have been deprived for at least 1 week. LOL.

We might be better to take a top Escort for 2 to 3 hours, especially with a big range of services. LOL.

Whoreman
03-25-18, 13:31
Pim is next lady I had. She is kinda beautiful but has a bit full figure. Small, firm boobs and nice smile. But performance was sub par and no where near SW standard.

Kum is another excellent performer at SW. A bit on bulky side as her frame is bigger than normal.

Thai ladies, has decent boobs. Gets taken very fast so book her early. The performance was fantastic, lot of GFE, kissing, DFK, DATY, fingering, anal etc. Very impressed with her skills and highly recommended.Sounds like you're using very polite language to describe fat girls. Last time I was in Snow White the mamasan pointed out a girl to me as being young and beautiful with no baby and 'can do backside' but the thing that really struck me about her was her extremely bloated upper arms. Does that sound like Pim or Kum? I can't do fatties.

Vodkin
03-25-18, 14:23
Last Wednesday I was horny and it was a hot afternoon in Bangkok, so I wanted to get a shower.

While passing by I saw this lovely lady (pic attached) who was all sprightly and soliciting with full gutso.

I asked her if I could take a pic, she replied only if I took her.

Normally my decision is based on chemistry. She promised me heaven and more and her eyes did the other half of the job.

I caved in.

Quick shower, BBBJ in shower, but the shower was too small, so I told her to do on bed after shower, lots of touchy touchy in the shower.

She had a tattoo, but it didn't look bad, in fact it added to her badness. 555.

I foamed her ass and cookie, no withdrawal, which gave me an early indication, that A+ might be available.

Dried up, then on to bed, 69 and it was a long 69, maybe a good 15 minutes and she was soaking wet.

I dipped my thumb a few times into her behind and she was fine..Great report, thanks! Most of Cherry ladies are A+.

Goatscrot
03-25-18, 16:05
If they really are the same kind of 'supermodels' guys are throwing money at in The Lord then I don't see a problem with it. It gives us an opportunity to try out those girls without the racist surcharge. And if the other girls, including the students, are still 2000 baht then everyone's happy.

If the 4000 baht girls are not worth the money then customers won't pay.Nope, they are the same gals as last week, the thinner ones, in street clothes. The ones in uniform are the fat ones. I saw some big enough for an eskimo family to live off of for a month.

Whoreman
03-25-18, 16:33
Nope, they are the same gals as last week, the thinner ones, in street clothes. The ones in uniform are the fat ones. I saw some big enough for an eskimo family to live off of for a month.I phoned them up and asked about the students I was interested in and she said they were still 2000 baht. So if the prettiest students are still 2000 baht I can't see who they would've upgraded to supermodel status.

Unfortunately it's Mali and AA's day off today but I'm definitely giving them a go next week.

Mjen1970
03-25-18, 16:43
Last Wednesday I was horny and it was a hot afternoon in Bangkok, so I wanted to get a shower.

While passing by I saw this lovely lady (pic attached) who was all sprightly and soliciting with full gutso.

I asked her if I could take a pic, she replied only if I took her.

Normally my decision is based on chemistry. She promised me heaven and more and her eyes did the other half of the job.

I caved in.

Quick shower, BBBJ in shower, but the shower was too small, so I told her to do on bed after shower, lots of touchy touchy in the shower.

She had a tattoo, but it didn't look bad, in fact it added to her badness. 555.

I foamed her ass and cookie, no withdrawal, which gave me an early indication, that A+ might be available.

Dried up, then on to bed, 69 and it was a long 69, maybe a good 15 minutes and she was soaking wet.

I dipped my thumb a few times into her behind and she was fine.

Flipped her over and she pulled out the rubber and asked "front" or "back", that was such a huge turn-on for me, that I decided to go for A+.

And boy o boy what energy! She met every thrust of mine with equally forcefull thrust from her. I felt thoroughly loved and I lasted maybe less than 10 minutes.

2nd round was a repeat but this time I alternated between "front" and "back".

WIR: Yes.She looks like Wan (ex Mango) - one of the best.

Goatscrot
03-25-18, 17:06
I phoned them up and asked about the students I was interested in and she said they were still 2000 baht. So if the prettiest students are still 2000 baht I can't see who they would've upgraded to supermodel status.

Unfortunately it's Mali and AA's day off today but I'm definitely giving them a go next week.That's interesting. The gals they wanted the big bucks for were all in street clothes. Will pop in again early in the week and have another look. Perhaps an already failed weekend experiment?

Goatscrot
03-25-18, 17:07
She looks like Wan (ex Mango) - one of the best.That's who it is. Albeit with a few more years on her.

Mjen1970
03-25-18, 17:43
That's who it is. Albeit with a few more years on her.Thanks a lot for the confirmation, I took Wan before and she rocked my world. (There's a report somewhere on this board about our encounter). I am over in Bangkok in May and plan to repeat with Aom in SW, and now Wan (Venus) in Cherry. Does anyone know if and where Cash (May? Is now? I lost contact with her when Bongkot closed and would like to repeat, Last I heard, She was in SW now and then.

Thanks,

UShobbyist
03-25-18, 21:33
If they really are the same kind of 'supermodels' guys are throwing money at in The Lord then I don't see a problem with it. It gives us an opportunity to try out those girls without the racist surcharge. And if the other girls, including the students, are still 2000 baht then everyone's happy.

If the 4000 baht girls are not worth the money then customers won't pay.Those 4000 baht models don't do CIM. Only foolish newbies will pay 4000 baht for those models.

Vodkin
03-26-18, 02:39
I phoned them up and asked about the students I was interested in and she said they were still 2000 baht. So if the prettiest students are still 2000 baht I can't see who they would've upgraded to supermodel status.

Unfortunately it's Mali and AA's day off today but I'm definitely giving them a go next week.For Mali, you have to book her and confirm the booking before you go. Last time I booked her at 11 am in the morning. I showed up but she didn't. I re-booked her at 2 pm and called in prior to my arrival to ensure she was in the shop. Both the shop and Mali apologized about the mess up but it was really annoying. The session was as good as last time at be&be Entertainment.

Omigawd
03-26-18, 03:25
Sounds like you're using very polite language to describe fat girls. Last time I was in Snow White the mamasan pointed out a girl to me as being young and beautiful with no baby and 'can do backside' but the thing that really struck me about her was her extremely bloated upper arms. Does that sound like Pim or Kum? I can't do fatties.Kum is bigger than Pim who is 20% bigger than Other girls.

Lefar123
03-26-18, 06:40
Hi guys,

Which girl would you recommend for hard sex with good anal skills? She doesn't have to be the prettiest.

Best regards.

Goatscrot
03-26-18, 08:40
Those 4000 baht models don't do CIM. Only foolish newbies will pay 4000 baht for those models.Is there some kind of odd thought process among some punters that by paying more and getting less, they are somehow getting something more "exclusive?" I certainly wonder.

Syzygies
03-26-18, 12:14
Is there some kind of odd thought process among some punters that by paying more and getting less, they are somehow getting something more "exclusive?" I certainly wonder.In my case, it is not about being exclusive. I am prepared to pay more than the basic rate for girls that I am very keen repeat, and the more desperate I am to repeat them, the more I could add to the price.

This naturally does not apply to guys who get bored with girls very quick and don't want much in the way of repeats.

A significant for me, outside of having reasonable skill levels, is certainly attitude. Eager and lovey dovey sweet types suite me, also seemingly horny chicks.

The other important thing is looks. I am prepared to go a bit more for extra hot perfect body (small non saggy tits acceptable). I am also prepared to go extra for a very pretty face. I just can't be bothered fucking ugly girls or disaster bodies, regardless of how cheap they might be going. A stunning face is worth something to me, as is a stunning ass, or stunning pussy. I could not even be bothered to fuck ugly girls for free.

This is a form of discrimination, I know. No matter how nice a girl is in character, horrible looks just will not excite. I just don't see the point in fucking sub-standard girls, when my GF still looks really good at 40.

I don't discriminate on where a girl comes from, race, or skin colour (within limits), nor age within limits, buts looks yes absolutely. It is not at all like food. Food can look ugly but taste amazing.

As a guy with a rather non sensitive dick, looks of the girl make quite a difference to my stimulation levels. I accept different guys look for different things. The girl has to be sexy enough and good looking enough to make my dick rise. Often the hard on is helped greatly DFK, light touching, and fingering pussy. Great DFK seems to get me hard even quicker than a great BBBJ, but I have no interest to kiss girls that are not appealing. Go figure.

Having said that beautiful girls are worth more, there are probably limits. Most of the high priced girls in The Lord are not really my spec, so are not convincing me to spend 4 k to 6 k. A super stunner will probably convince me easily, it's just they don't have that many girls that are really naturally more beautiful by enough margin to justify the price, and the service is still a crap shoot.

It comes down to much risk a girl's looks are worth. However I hardly can fuck girls that I believe are average looking or worse. Not worth my time. If can get great lookers with good attitude, for a bargain basement price, that is fabulous. It's not easy though. I tried some girls on street in Soi 4 for low prices, however in the end, just decided they weren't good enough in looks even if some fucked pretty good. Price isn't everything.

I suppose some guys would be embarrassed to be seen on the arm of fat ugly girls. In an MP they avoid that. LOL

SuperLove
03-26-18, 12:37
She looks absolutely lovely, what a good find. Going to be in Bangkok this weekend, hopefully I can take this lovely chick for an outing. Any indication where I can find her. Is she a freelancer, does she have a space. Will it be worth it to for LT and spend the entire night eating her pussy.

SL.


Last Wednesday I was horny and it was a hot afternoon in Bangkok, so I wanted to get a shower.

While passing by I saw this lovely lady (pic attached) who was all sprightly and soliciting with full gutso.

I asked her if I could take a pic, she replied only if I took her.

Normally my decision is based on chemistry. She promised me heaven and more and her eyes did the other half of the job.

I caved in.

Quick shower, BBBJ in shower, but the shower was too small, so I told her to do on bed after shower, lots of touchy touchy in the shower..

Whoreman
03-26-18, 13:55
For Mali, you have to book her and confirm the booking before you go. Last time I booked her at 11 am in the morning. I showed up but she didn't. I re-booked her at 2 pm and called in prior to my arrival to ensure she was in the shop. Both the shop and Mali apologized about the mess up but it was really annoying. The session was as good as last time at be&be Entertainment.She's proving elusive. Not available Sunday afternoon or Monday evening due to being at school.

Syzygies
03-26-18, 15:26
For Mali, you have to book her and confirm the booking before you go. Last time I booked her at 11 am in the morning. I showed up but she didn't. I re-booked her at 2 pm and called in prior to my arrival to ensure she was in the shop. Both the shop and Mali apologized about the mess up but it was really annoying. The session was as good as last time at be&be Entertainment.In my opinion, Booking a girl in the future is somewhat problematic. No one knows if she will show or not.

My procedure: "Is Mali working today?" yes. "Is she already at the shop?" Yes, then finally "Can I book her for 15 minutes from now?" This method generally works fairly well, but helps I speak Thai. Sometimes the girl is busy and I have to take a later time. However I never go to the shop for a specific girl without ringing first, unless just happen to be passing by.

If book an appointment for the future, always have to ring say 30 minutes before appointment to reconfirm everything is going to work out. Chances are it won't or at least have to change the booking time.

I am not referring to Mali in particular, just in general. In many shops future date bookings may well be completely useless. The problem is the future is very hard to predict with Hookers. Perhaps some girls in some shops are reliable, I don't know, but I don't like to assume it.

Sometimes used to LINE the girl directly. Will you work today? What time I should call shop to try to book?

Vodkin
03-26-18, 16:50
She's proving elusive. Not available Sunday afternoon or Monday evening due to being at school.She is busy with school, and also involved with some social charity volunteer work. On her FB, she has one "relationship" and 1450 followers. Busy lady.

UShobbyist
03-27-18, 02:04
Hi guys,

Which girl would you recommend for hard sex with good anal skills? She doesn't have to be the prettiest.

Best regards.If you are an anal sex fan, you should definitely go to Tulip Massage. Most of the girls there will offer hard anal sex. You should tell the girls what you want during the lineup

Omigawd
03-27-18, 04:19
Beach road was well stocked but quality is completely elusive now. Most girls want to talk about boom boom within a min or two of conversation. The looks were extremely disappointing. I don't know if situation is any better in bars but on BR 600/800 shots are hopeless romps. I didn't see many Japanese or Europeans on this trip at least on BR. Had 3 pickups in one evening. One was so so. 2nd had good body but ugly face but at least could speak reasonable English. 3rd was excellent and provided good GFE.

My biggest problem s wit Pattaya are a total lack of good looking girls on BR. I am sure I need to up the game and start pickups from bars and agogos.

So how much does a ST cost with a bar girl in your hotel room? Can someone please tell me?

TIA.

SunnyJohn2050
03-27-18, 12:28
Hi guys,

I am visiting Bangkok for first time. My trip is for 3 days and I want to try little bit of everything. Would really appreciate your input on following.

1. What are good oil massage places that offer best PSE (rimming included)? Added bonus if the place also has lookers. Planning to visit may be top 3 or 4 places.

2. What are good soapies that offer PSE and have beautiful girls. I want to have a memorable soapie massage session. Willing to spend $$.

3. Any suggestions for soapies / oilies that offer threesomes? Want to do a nasty threesome session with girls who are freaks and willing to satisfy.

Any inputs are much appreciated. Will post a detailed review of my encounters if I end up doing sessions with any of the recommended providers. Thanks in advance.

Sum12
03-27-18, 14:51
Finally landed back here and the first night headed to Nyan Nyan in soi33. I previously liked their selection and the service, and the nuru gel makes it extra special. Have had great experiences here in the past (see my previous report). As usual was presented with a folder with pictures, but the talent seems to have more or less disappeared. Found one to my liking called Ari and waited to see her in person (this is acceptable here) before paying 2200 for 1 hour. Service was the usual, shower together, Nuru gel massage for 10-15 minutes, flip over and BBBJ. Capped and tried multiple positions. No DFK provided but service was a little above average. WIR? Maybe not as the quality of lookers have sharply dropped. Will be trying other places too soon and any recommendations will be appreciated and of course reports will follow which I usually do. Looking for lookers and DFK in general but will visit SW for sure as I usually do though it focuses more on service. (See escorts page for my experiences with incall soon too Bangkok page for nana experiences will follow shortly too).

AssLover945
03-28-18, 06:13
Please see my replies inline.


Hi guys,

I am visiting Bangkok for first time. My trip is for 3 days and I want to try little bit of everything. Would really appreciate your input on following.

1. What are good oil massage places that offer best PSE (rimming included)? Added bonus if the place also has lookers. Planning to visit may be top 3 or 4 places. - Tulip (at BTS Thong lo), Cherry (soi 24/1) , snowwhite (soi 26), Mango (soi24)

2. What are good soapies that offer PSE and have beautiful girls. I want to have a memorable soapie massage session. Willing to spend $$. - Sopies don't offer PSE, the only soapy that comes close will be Annies

3. Any suggestions for soapies / oilies that offer threesomes? Want to do a nasty threesome session with girls who are freaks and willing to satisfy. - Eden at soi 7/1

Any inputs are much appreciated. Will post a detailed review of my encounters if I end up doing sessions with any of the recommended providers. Thanks in advance.- Will advice to go overnite with any ladies from these bars listed above.

AssLover945
03-28-18, 06:16
She works for a shop called Cherry Massage in soi 24/1.

Her name is Venus.


She looks absolutely lovely, what a good find. Going to be in Bangkok this weekend, hopefully I can take this lovely chick for an outing. Any indication where I can find her. Is she a freelancer, does she have a space. Will it be worth it to for LT and spend the entire night eating her pussy.

SL.

AssLover945
03-28-18, 06:18
Hi guys,

Which girl would you recommend for hard sex with good anal skills? She doesn't have to be the prettiest.

Best regards.For me now it is.

Venus at Cherry massage soi 24/1.

And she is pretty too.

AssLover945
03-28-18, 06:29
Thanks a lot for the confirmation, I took Wan before and she rocked my world. (There's a report somewhere on this board about our encounter). I am over in Bangkok in May and plan to repeat with Aom in SW, and now Wan (Venus) in Cherry. Does anyone know if and where Cash (May? Is now? I lost contact with her when Bongkot closed and would like to repeat, Last I heard, She was in SW now and then.

Thanks,Dunno about Cash, but May is married and happily settled with her dude in some western country.

Goatscrot
03-28-18, 06:30
Dunno about Cash, but May is married and happily settled with her dude in some western country.Cash (April) is currently managing a pharmacy on Sukhumvit quite near Tulip.

SunnyJohn2050
03-28-18, 07:18
Please see my replies inline.

- Will advice to go overnite with any ladies from these bars listed above.Thanks for the inputs. I thought Annie is closed. Isn't it? And any recommendations for who to select in Eden?

Syzygies
03-28-18, 07:46
For me now it is.

Venus at Cherry massage soi 24/1.

And she is pretty too.In web pics, Cathy is closer to my spec, to be a possible for me. How is she for GFE and general skills? I don't require anal.

Is Yok slim or overweight these days? Obviously I know her skills. LOL. her current web pics look O.K.

I don't think Candy massage has ever had much for pretty girls, but we could say the same for most of these types of Oilies. Compromise on looks to get a good service is the name of the game, I am sure. In my case the shop is irrelevant. It is only about finding a girl that suits me, preferably well above average looks (hard to do).

Goatscrot
03-28-18, 09:51
In web pics, Cathy is closer to my spec, to be a possible for me. How is she for GFE and general skills? I don't require anal.

Is Yok slim or overweight these days? Obviously I know her skills. LOL. her current web pics look O.K.

I don't think Candy massage has ever had much for pretty girls, but we could say the same for most of these types of Oilies. Compromise on looks to get a good service is the name of the game, I am sure. In my case the shop is irrelevant. It is only about finding a girl that suits me, preferably well above average looks (hard to do).Yok's had twins I believe. Did a lot of damage.

Whoreman
03-28-18, 10:19
She is busy with school, and also involved with some social charity volunteer work. On her FB, she has one "relationship" and 1450 followers. Busy lady.Latest update on Mali is that she'll be back next month. I think she might have stopped working there for good though. The best girls tend not to hang around soi 24 for long.

Any other suggestions for a young, slim, baby-free girl?

Whoreman
03-28-18, 10:31
In web pics, Cathy is closer to my spec, to be a possible for me. How is she for GFE and general skills? I don't require anal.
You got an answer to that question a year ago:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2008945&viewfull=1#post2008945.

She's been on your list for a year and you still haven't tried her.

Sum12
03-28-18, 15:53
Has anyone been to EZ massage 1? I have not seen any reports here of it and there are quite a few I fancy from the line up at ez1 rather than ez2. If you have then can you share the details. Some girls are B5000 for 2 hours, does that mean 2 shots too?

Vodkin
03-28-18, 18:53
Has anyone been to EZ massage 1? I have not seen any reports here of it and there are quite a few I fancy from the line up at ez1 rather than ez2. If you have then can you share the details. Some girls are B5000 for 2 hours, does that mean 2 shots too?There seems no EZ1 anymore. Both EZ1 and EZ2 are combined with Allstars in the allay of Soi 24-1. Better call them to confirm.

Syzygies
03-29-18, 09:00
You got an answer to that question a year ago:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2008945&viewfull=1#post2008945.

She's been on your list for a year and you still haven't tried her.Thanks, Alzheimer's setting in. She probably wasn't exactly my top priority, just potentially adequate looks. Last time I walked in Soi 24/1, I picked Pin at Boss as she was best looking to me of those sitting outside in the Soi, at the time. Being over 30 did not worry me. In truth I have had very few Oily visits in total for the last year. Pin would still be on my priority list ahead of untried girls. She was my only new girl try for this year, that I can recall now (with bad memory for girls not worth repeating). My attendance at Soapies and Oilies has fallen right away in general, with few girls considered pretty enough and fun enough to keep repeating. So Pin was an exception.

Any natural stunner could hook me for a try though. I need to go looking a lot more regularly, in order to find any.

Now that memory is getting worse, I probably need to keep a diary of all girls tried, and those on the prospective list. I keep meaning to try some Escorts soon, but have been so slow to get around to it, and then I have a few model like beauties at Billboard to consider for a try.

6 regular girls has been enough for me mostly, 4 with big tits, and only one with small, which is strange for me normally going for skinny girls.

So my priorities are: looks (preferred natural), fun and GFE, and then skills, where I suspect most guys are going in opposite order. Great when we can find girls with high score for all 3, of course. If any one of these is completely missing, then girl becomes unworthwhile, although lack of skills can be tolerated by me if girl can still be fun. I have taken pretty girls with braces who could not do a decent BBBJ. Sometimes get a girl with an ulcer or tooth ache who doesn't want to give a BBBJ at all, yet I still had a good time.

My time available for researching new girls is getting less and less. Heading towards monger semi-retirement most likely. Good luck to you guys who get to look through the Oilies every week, to see what is "really" available, where guys like me have only vague idea with very few girls known.

Whoreman
03-29-18, 11:57
Good luck to you guys who get to look through the Oilies every week, to see what is "really" available, where guys like me have only vague idea with very few girls known.I do it every week but find the best girls have to be booked in advance so just turning up and looking round doesn't work well. For example, answering your post yesterday made me want to go and try Cathy but when I turned up she was busy so I ended up with Grace, who is at least baby-free but average in other respects.

I think once you've identified a girl you want to try you need to just go and try her. Stop making excuses and just go and try Cathy, but make sure you book ahead.

Lefar123
03-30-18, 01:19
For me now it is.

Venus at Cherry massage soi 24/1.

And she is pretty too.How about BB from Cherry she has also good skills in anal? She looks pretty too.

And maybe you could compare Venus, Cherry, and Aom (Snow White), which one likes the most hard sex?

There is also Candy (Snow White), yes?

Goatscrot
03-30-18, 04:05
How about BB from Cherry she has also good skills in anal? She looks pretty too.

And maybe you could compare Venus, Cherry, and Aom (Snow White), which one likes the most hard sex?

There is also Candy (Snow White), yes?BB has a very detached attitude which makes for a less than vibrant session. She is also heavier than in her Cherry pics, which are from a few years ago. The really sad part of this is all three of these gals would have been very middle of the road a few years ago at any of the PSE oilies due in no small part to their looks. Now mediocre has become superstar.

Syzygies
03-30-18, 04:30
I do it every week but find the best girls have to be booked in advance so just turning up and looking round doesn't work well. For example, answering your post yesterday made me want to go and try Cathy but when I turned up she was busy so I ended up with Grace, who is at least baby-free but average in other respects.

I think once you've identified a girl you want to try you need to just go and try her. Stop making excuses and just go and try Cathy, but make sure you book ahead.Unfortunately I have this thing where I need to see a girl and find her appealing in the flesh, before trying. Pics are deceiving and other guys opinions are often different to my own. Also I pointed out that Cathy is not my top priority anyway. I might do if other higher priorities are not there. I don't need to try girls, unless they are stunning, or I have nothing better to do. I would rather take Pin at Boss again, because I enjoyed the last session. I don't have lots of Oily girl sessions in recent times that were better than her or even equal.

You are welcome to try Cathy yourself, but I don't tell others what to do. They can decide for themselves. I often take no girl rather than get second best or average girls.

It is extremely rare I have found a girl that I want to repeat often based on recommendation of someone else. Usually the best info I get is that a shop is worth having a look at. Last year I did try some girl recommended and was quite disappointed in her looks and performance, or maybe was just my lack of excitement. Previous to that I tried a Snow White girl recommended, and again no repeat for me. So I treat a strong recommendation as meaning that it is possible to have a good time with the girl if you happen to click, but there is no guarantees. It is better for me to simply check if guys believe web pics are accurate or not.

I take your point about girls busy and needing to book. This means I have to get lucky. In my visits to Tulip over last few years (not many), I probably never met the better looking girls there. It is a lot easier for me to show up at a bar at 9PM and most of the best looking girls are still there, maybe just arriving. At least I get to see them even if they have another customer. I can then decide if I want to come back for a particular girl another day. It is harder to see all the best looking girls working at an Oily, unless someone has worked out a strategy for that. One of my methods of the past was to see a stunning girl walking on the street, and observe which Oily shop she went into. This was based on pure luck though. 3 times I used this approach in total. It is good to see a girl outside in the daylight, so walking past shops in Soi 24/1, Soi 24 sub-sois and 33 and seeing girls outside is helpful. That is how I got Pin, first time, and indeed most of my repeated Oily girls in last few years. Takes a lot more time if have to go inside and request a line up, which does not impress the staff when refuse to take any of the girls.

Nclpimp
03-30-18, 06:19
Going to Bangkok in a month. Last time I was there was a few years back. Apple was a SUPERSTAR at cherrys. I wanted to try the next superstar if you would prefer to PM me that's cool. I see yok in cherrys and she looks good from the pics but I know how that works. I also banged a very attractive waittress in soi 11 hillary 3 across from the presendential palace. She was very pretty and big boobs white skin named beer. Anyone have a utr they want to recommend?

Goatscrot
03-30-18, 08:24
Going to Bangkok in a month. Last time I was there was a few years back. Apple was a SUPERSTAR at cherrys. I wanted to try the next superstar if you would prefer to PM me that's cool. I see yok in cherrys and she looks good from the pics but I know how that works. I also banged a very attractive waittress in soi 11 hillary 3 across from the presendential palace. She was very pretty and big boobs white skin named beer. Anyone have a utr they want to recommend?There is nothing at any of the shops even close to Apple these days; that is if you are talking about the Apple that started and Mango and then went to Cherry when her "sister" Cherry opened Cherry.

Goatscrot
03-30-18, 08:34
Takes a lot more time if have to go inside and request a line up, which does not impress the staff when refuse to take any of the girls.I walk out quite a bit, which causes eyes to roll when I visit again. Sorry, if the quality is not there, it is not there and I'm not going to waste my money. Recently there seems to be more and more guys just walking out, both Asian and Western. My good mate was in the shops yesterday and saw quite a few groups of Asian guys leave venues having not partaken. The gals are complaining, but hey, it's their fault. Truthfully the looks are not going to get any better so they are going to have to up their game service wise. And for sure, most of the gals in the "biz" are just not going to do this. They like the idea of making money, but just can't seem to get their heads around the fact and accept that they are in the P4 P industry, instead trying to get away with as little as they can. I was amazed that some gals on 24/1 do not offer full service. That is just astounding. Instead of denying what job they do, embracing it, developing a great set of skills, being able to read the customer and monitor and adjust to individual likes is their key to success. But that would entail letting themselves loose and really embracing the fact that they are working gals, and with the current conservative trend amongst Thai women, that is just was too difficult to do.

Had a chat with Sandy from Addict one day. She is constantly booked because she delivers excellent service. Instead of taking her advice, which she has offered, the other gals in Addict just continue to provide less than stellar service and remain angry at and jealous of Sandy.