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Syzygies
07-27-19, 13:39
These soi 22 shops are not my favorite shops, but I come here once in 2 weeks. They can be hit and miss based on girls. So far, when I have picked younger looking girls, service has been crap. Tried Sugar last month, and she was hilariously bad.Sois 24 to 26 seem like a better hunting ground to me. Even Soi 33 is in front of Soi 22 for having some good looking girls. Never tried Massage in Soi 4 or 23 at all, and Soi 19 only many years ago.

Is Soi 22 really worth looking? I do admit to going to Bongkot for June in the past, but no good girls and pretty found after that.

Gargano19
07-27-19, 14:04
Sois 24 to 26 seem like a better hunting ground to me. Even Soi 33 is in front of Soi 22 for having some good looking girls. Never tried Massage in Soi 4 or 23 at all, and Soi 19 only many years ago.Yes soi 33 has good looking girls in some shops. Never tried soi 4 shops, most girls sitting outside looks ladyboy-ish to me, because of heavy makeup.



Is Soi 22 really worth looking? Not really, but call it a old habit, so I just go there once in a while. But yeah, looks wise, quality is getting worse.

Syzygies
07-27-19, 14:08
Yes soi 33 has good looking girls in some shops. Never tried soi 4 shops, most girls sitting outside looks ladyboy-ish to me, because of heavy makeup.
Yes definitely a lot of LBs in MPs there, not just LB-ish. The girls there are probably the ugly ones. Ha Ha.

DarqNiteRises
07-28-19, 18:53
Hello everyone,

So I have a trip coming up in Bangkok in the next week, I wanted to experience the popular soapy massage and full service. Can you recommend me a few massage places where everything is included (Soapy, Oil, Anal, 2 shots). I wished Annies Massage was still open but its not and I don't have any idea on the famous places. I wanted to find one in Sukhumvit area. So please help a brother out.

Gargano19
07-29-19, 06:30
Yes definitely a lot of LBs in MPs there, not just LB-ish. The girls there are probably the ugly ones. Ha Ha.From this I remember, there is massage shop near soi 7 and 9 I guess, where 5-6 clear LBs sit outside in revealing dresses and saying "massage" in LBish voice to any man crossing them.

Easily most annoying thing I have seen in Bkk, maybe because I cross them on daily basis LOL.

Brick138
07-29-19, 06:31
I wanted a good massage yesterday morning. So planned to go see Doki Doki. Went there around 2 pm and almost everyone was busy. The ones I saw were not worth the 3500 be. I asked to book someone for today, and they said it will be closed.

So went to soi 22, Passion massage. Always polite mamsan welcomed me and showed me the menu. Their menu sometimes gets overwhelming for me. But after looking at it for few seconds, I choose nuru gel massage for 90 m (exactly what I wanted at doki doki).

Masan asked for 2000 b, LOL, I asked to see girls. And man, I am not kidding, there were just 3 girls (one of them was eating) and no way I was taking any of those. I told mamsan I will come later on, but she asked me to sit and called for more girls from her other shops. Even then there were 6-7 girls and I liked nothing but it was quite hot outside. So I chose one who was in hot black dress.

Minnie.

https://bangkokbunnymassage.com/masseuses/minnie/

She took me to Bangkok bunny shop, just right next door. We went upstairs in room and she said she will be back in few minutes..Had a similar experience. Waste of money.

Gargano19
07-29-19, 06:39
Hello everyone,

So I have a trip coming up in Bangkok in the next week, I wanted to experience the popular soapy massage and full service. Can you recommend me a few massage places where everything is included (Soapy, Oil, Anal, 2 shots). I wished Annies Massage was still open but its not and I don't have any idea on the famous places. I wanted to find one in Sukhumvit area. So please help a brother out.Not sure, if there are any good soapies left in lower Sukhumvit area. Soapies business have gone down a lot in recent years, mostly they are now visited by locals. And as they're visited by locals, most hot girls don't prefer to work there for reasons mainly.

1. locals don't tip most of the times.

2. A local won't man won't sponsor the girl like a retired farang.

3. No chance of going on vacation overseas, a local thai unlikely would take her to vacation.

Well these are just likely reason, but I am sure good soapies will still have some hot girls. Please note, it's been atleast 6 months I've visted any soapie.

Regarding your original question, you can find some popular soapies around Huay Kwang district, near the MRT line.

Some popular soapies are, Emmanuel and Posiedon.

Syzygies
07-29-19, 08:40
2. A local won't man won't sponsor the girl like a retired farang.

3. No chance of going on vacation overseas, a local thai unlikely would take her to vacation.
You are a bit misinformed here, I think. Rich Thais have a kept 2nd wife, often extracted from a Soapy Massage joint, and certainly take young hotties on overseas trips too. What would stop them?

Farangs do likewise, but just don't realise how many other guys are sponsoring the same girl, and may get a very poor return on their investment.

I took a girl on a trip to Singapore. So possible if you know the girl really well.

I agree that Soapies are gone from lower Sukhumvit (Annies and Darling both closed - others closed 25 years ago plus) and declined generally in recent years. Farangs maybe be doing Nuru massage as a replacement. Thais have cut back. Utopia was a great thriving place mainly for Thais and Asians many years ago, but may have reached close down level of low business by now. Many major Soapies closed due to illegal use of Artesian (underground) water, low business, girl trafficking, tax avoidance, etc. Chawala still exists at Soi 34 which is sort of like a Soapy with a small fishbowl. However not sure if full sex is available. Likely HJ and BJ and groping. Many years since I visited it.

Plenty of Soapies still exist however in Phetburi, Rama IX, Ratchada, Makkasan, an misc areas etc. I just have not enjoyed them enough to visit regularly any more. I if I could find a great girl, might be different. I used to have several regulars years ago.

JonniDarkko
07-31-19, 10:33
Had a 3 way at snow white just now. Booked nana over the phone. Excellent blowjob but wanted extra so I asked for a girl named lemon. Nana a little older but lemon is fairly young. Maybe 20 or so with a shaved crotch and very hot body. Had both take turns BBBJ. When it was time I busted all over lemons face. Thinking about out calling lemon to my room so I can sample more. But maybe after candy of which I have an appointment with her tomorrow.

J A Karl
08-01-19, 14:11
Had a 3 way at snow white just now. Booked nana over the phone. Excellent blowjob but wanted extra so I asked for a girl named lemon. Nana a little older but lemon is fairly young. Maybe 20 or so with a shaved crotch and very hot body. Had both take turns BBBJ. When it was time I busted all over lemons face. Thinking about out calling lemon to my room so I can sample more. But maybe after candy of which I have an appointment with her tomorrow.You missed your appointment med Candy today, which turned out in my favor because she was available when I came through the doors at around 14:30.

It's been a long time since I had a session with her because she is usually busy. Can't imagine how many miles of dick has passed through all orifices of that body.

Anyway, 90 minute session with her today.

Good blowjob, no gagging.

Some serious penetration in all 3 holes and finished in her ass.

Wasn't up for a second round today.

Those new boobs she bought 2 months ago doesn't really fit her body. Always pointing straight out, when she is on her back they point straight up. And I think they are to wide apart.

Some of you like it. I sure don't.

Gave her tip and was on my way again.

Hari1309
08-06-19, 05:49
Dear Regular and Senior Members, I am going to be staying in Bangkok for a day and planning to visit a Massage joint. Which are the good massage places that are not too heavy on the pocket? What are the usual prices? I just want to find one massage place where the women are eager to please. I am going to be staying near Sukhumvit.

PM open. Any pointers appreciated.

Thanks.

Syzygies
08-06-19, 07:48
Dear Regular and Senior Members, I am going to be staying in Bangkok for a day and planning to visit a Massage joint. Which are the good massage places that are not too heavy on the pocket? What are the usual prices? I just want to find one massage place where the women are eager to please. I am going to be staying near Sukhumvit.

PM open. Any pointers appreciated.

Thanks.You want good looking girls or "dirty" porn stars? You can web search to find typical pricing for many Bangkok Massage joints. None of them are too heavy on the pocket really. Depends on how tight you are. Tulip and Snow White are generally recommended for cheap and "Nasty" (porn style). We have to assume you want sex and a not a massage, right?

Hari1309
08-06-19, 09:25
You want good looking girls or "dirty" porn stars? You can web search to find typical pricing for many Bangkok Massage joints. None of them are too heavy on the pocket really. Depends on how tight you are. Tulip and Snow White are generally recommended for cheap and "Nasty" (porn style). We have to assume you want sex and a not a massage, right?Thanks bro for the reply. I will check those places out. Yes, massage and the allied services (wink). I have heard a lot about Thailand's sexual massage service offerings like Nuru or Soapy and more but don't know much about these services.

Tried to read up but didn't get any realistic idea if these service are any good or not.

Also what do you mean by nasty / dirty? Certainly not unhygienic right?

Kuratla
08-06-19, 11:07
Thanks bro for the reply. I will check those places out. Yes, massage and the allied services (wink). I have heard a lot about Thailand's sexual massage service offerings like Nuru or Soapy and more but don't know much about these services.

Tried to read up but didn't get any realistic idea if these service are any good or not.

Also what do you mean by nasty / dirty? Certainly not unhygienic right?Dirty as in pornstar experience. Fuck the shit out of you and leave you drained. All holes available. That's what you get at Tulip for sure and Snow White (usually). Other places, you'll get better looking girls but the experience is a lot more tame.

Aron001
08-07-19, 02:17
So I was in BKK last month and I booked an Airbnb in sukhumvit 62 somewhere within walking distance to BangChak station. Everyday I walked from my airbnb to station and passed across a massage shop, never bothered to go in until a few days prior to return home as I wanted a real massage. Anyhow, I got in and the lady at counter spoke pretty good English (almost fluent I would say) and she had some good looking ladies. The place was clean and is a very legit massage shop. The counter lady called one of the girls but I spotted one that I liked better and asked if I could change ladies, the counter lady gladly accommodated my request. We went upstairs and pretty much follow the standard procedure to get a massage, anyways, the lady was good and hit the right spots to make me hard well just to check if this place was legit I asked the lady for special service, she said she could get in trouble but needed the extra cash; I had to pay her for extra services right on the spot so the counter lady don't find out. Make long story short, she could ride really good and was excellent at massage. Once I was done got a shower, changed, got downstairs and got the usual goodbye ceremony from the counter lady, I left satisfied.

Here is the interesting part, back home I was browsing thru those tuk tuk pornhub videos and guess what? Damn I saw this girl I had just banged a few nights ago. No wonder she was that good and sure enough the video I found was proof of it.

I believe some of us have similar stories but I just though I would share my experience, below some details.

Massage Place: Dharin.

Lady: Apple (probably fake name).

Massage Service: 8.

Special Service (Sex): 8.

Oil massage: 500.

Lady Special service: 1500.

Total damage: 2000.

What I liked about this place is that is very legit, clean, and low key. I didn't see foreigners and the price seemed good to me for massage and special. The downside is that is a little out of downtown Bangkok but since I was staying in that area it was a great find for me.

Share your stories guys and share prices as well.

Hari1309
08-07-19, 05:52
Dirty as in pornstar experience. Fuck the shit out of you and leave you drained. All holes available. That's what you get at Tulip for sure and Snow White (usually). Other places, you'll get better looking (and younger) girls but the experience is a lot more tame.Yes sir. I would be interested in that. I could find Snow white's website online. However Tulip Bangkok shows up as a hotel. Could you tell me where Tulip is located? Is it the one at Khwaeng Phra Khanong?

Thank you.

MrJibb
08-07-19, 14:58
Hi,

Coming to Bangkok for the first time and wanting to find a busty and heavily lactating woman for massage and perhaps a little more. Any tips? Any apps I can use to find such a girl?

Gladiator69
08-07-19, 15:01
Yes sir. I would be interested in that. I could find Snow white's website online. However Tulip Bangkok shows up as a hotel. Could you tell me where Tulip is located? Is it the one at Khwaeng Phra Khanong?Tulip is located right below the Thong Lo BTS station. You won't miss the Tulip sign. The ladies there will do anything you saw on porn, be prepared to be drained. Personally prefer to take the lady or ladies to my own hotel room for more space. Had a threeway with Golf and June, lots of lesbian action and total PSE.

Paolo99
08-07-19, 15:16
back home I was browsing thru those tuk tuk pornhub videos and guess what? Damn I saw this girl I had just banged a few nights ago. No wonder she was that good and sure enough the video I found was proof of it.What's the title of the pornhub video you saw her in?

Aron001
08-08-19, 02:03
What's the title of the pornhub video you saw her in?Sorry I don't remember but it was from the TUK TUK videos and I'm 100% sure it was her, I don't save / record porn links on my phone as the wife has access so I can't risk anything. But you might find the place in facebook because the lady at counter asked me to give a like to their page, obviously I said I don't have facebook.

Hope this helps.

Stay safe.

Syzygies
08-09-19, 09:52
Also what do you mean by nasty / dirty? Certainly not unhygienic right?Ha ha. Sorry I don't mean dirty in the normal sense, I mean pornographic, not innocent girls who know little about sex. Nasty is american slang I think for meaning girls who do unspeakable things. You seem to be very shy yourself at saying explicitly what you want.

You can be very explicit on here. No problem. If you don't state precisely what turns you on, we won't know. We are all different. Some guys need assholes to fuck, I don't.

I prefer girls who are pretty and have sexy sleek bodies and like to cum, over porn star types. Just my own preference. If I can get both, that is okay Too. Most of my girls don't do ass fucking and some don't even do cum in mouth. Those that do, would certainly not swallow. Why should I care.

The problem for me, is mostly the girls in the porn star type Massage joints, are not slim enough and petty enough to really get me excited. Very good looking girls don't really have to do pornstar stuff to make money. So why would they want their ass fucked all day? So we get realistic with what we expect. Girls probably what they need to and what they handle in order to make money. I am warped because I prefer when a girl really gets into it and enjoys her session, even she is making some money as well. Just my strange mentality. Maybe something to do with no getting lots of sex when I was young. Ha ha, and my original wife was fairly poor on the bed (a virgin when I met her).

Hari1309
08-09-19, 19:29
Ha ha. Sorry I don't mean dirty in the normal sense, I mean pornographic, not innocent girls who know little about sex. Nasty is american slang I think for meaning girls who do unspeakable things. You seem to be very shy yourself at saying explicitly what you want.

You can be very explicit on here. No problem. If you don't state precisely what turns you on, we won't know. We are all different. Some guys need assholes to fuck, I don't.

I prefer girls who are pretty and have sexy sleek bodies and like to cum, over porn star types. Just my own preference. If I can get both, that is okay Too. Most of my girls don't do ass fucking and some don't even do cum in mouth. Those that do, would certainly not swallow. Why should I care.

The problem for me, is mostly the girls in the porn star type Massage joints, are not slim enough and petty enough to really get me excited. Very good looking girls don't really have to do pornstar stuff to make money. So why would they want their ass fucked all day? So we get realistic with what we expect. Girls probably what they need to and what they handle in order to make money. I am warped because I prefer when a girl really gets into it and enjoys her session, even she is making some money as well. Just my strange mentality. Maybe something to do with no getting lots of sex when I was young. Ha ha, and my original wife was fairly poor on the bed (a virgin when I met her).Well, from what I have heard from you and others I would definitely want to try out Tulip. I guess we all have our own tastes and kinks. I have another question though, are there massage parlors that cater to women as well?

Stykler
08-09-19, 23:55
Well, from what I have heard from you and others I would definitely want to try out Tulip. I guess we all have our own tastes and kinks. I have another question though, are there massage parlors that cater to women as well?If you have the available $ (baht), you will be able find what you want at Tulip. Just ask. I recommend doing take out though for this type of service.

Bobloblaw020
08-14-19, 12:16
First review so be kind.

Having a leisurely stroll down Sukhumvit and the line up of ladies outside of this Parlor definitely caught my eye. A mix of both Ladies and TS. Decided, without much difficulty, on Nana. Average height with an amazing figure. Paid at the desk at the top of the stairs and led to a clean and well air conditioned room. Offered a shower and with the heat outside happily accepted. Proceeded to get a very acceptable massage with an appropriate amount of teasing just to get the juices flowing. Offered all services and decided on full, as you would. Nana proceeded to strip down to reveal what I already suspected to be an incredible figure. Everything was on the table (pun slightly intended) and after not much time Nana had succeeded in draining me completely.

Location 9/10 Very clean and modern looking. I believe it has recently been refurbed.

Girls 9/10 I would have had no problem picking any of the ladies waiting outside.

Would I return. Yes.

158,1 Sukhumvit Rd, Khwaeng Khlong Toei, Khet Khlong Toei, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon 10110, Thailand.

Bubba Boy
08-15-19, 01:32
First review so be kind.

Having a leisurely stroll down Sukhumvit and the line up of ladies outside of this Parlor definitely caught my eye. A mix of both Ladies and TS. Decided, without much difficulty, on Nana. Average height with an amazing figure. Paid at the desk at the top of the stairs and led to a clean and well air conditioned room. Offered a shower and with the heat outside happily accepted. Proceeded to get a very acceptable massage with an appropriate amount of teasing just to get the juices flowing. Offered all services and decided on full, as you would. Nana proceeded to strip down to reveal what I already suspected to be an incredible figure. Everything was on the table (pun slightly intended) and after not much time Nana had succeeded in draining me completely.

Location 9/10 Very clean and modern looking. I believe it has recently been refurbed.

Girls 9/10 I would have had no problem picking any of the ladies waiting outside.

Would I return. Yes.

158,1 Sukhumvit Rd, Khwaeng Khlong Toei, Khet Khlong Toei, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon 10110, Thailand.I walk past this place every other day. It is the one just past Nana BTS stairs where the old tired LB's hassle the fuck out of you when you pass for massage. Try to grab you etc, annoying as fuck. If there are "ladies" there they would most likely be post op.

Syzygies
08-15-19, 04:16
I walk past this place every other day. It is the one just past Nana BTS stairs where the old tired LB's hassle the fuck out of you when you pass for massage. Try to grab you etc, annoying as fuck. If there are "ladies" there they would most likely be post op.Is this Nang Massage next to Family Mart and On 8, or Cozy Massage just a bit closer to Soi 8? Or something else? Giving addresses in Thailand is not usually very useful. Ha ha. I never walk in this spot really so not much idea. Coming off the BTS stairs one would miss it I think. If I would get off BTS at Nana, I would always head in direction to Landmark. I suppose I used to go to Lollytas on Soi 8 when Anne was there. Too long ago now.

I used to walking past lots of LB massage joints on the Odd Sois side of the road. I had no clue the LBs were frequent on the even Sois side too. LBs are taking over everything, most of Soi 4, even Cowboy these days. Far too many LB shops. Surely the demand is not there.

Mixed businesses with both LBs and regular girls are popping up, but tends to spoil the girls' chances somewhat, since some Asian guys seem to prefer the LBs and some guys will refuse to consider the shop at all. At 5 Star bar in cowboy I notice that LBs are with Asian customers only, and don't bother the Farang expats at all.

When Soi 21 had cart bars, I used to drink at "Easy Bar" with music. It had just one very charming LB ("Eye" or Ivy now on some Escort site) and some nice girls too. I miss that bar for a late at night drink, and fucking the young girl Noi (18 YO barely) with magnificent tits hidden under the blouse. Some customers preferred to go with the LB, so I always wondered exactly why, even she was very charming, but missing a beautiful pussy (naturally the big problem for me. Don't want to encounter a dick for sure). These bars got swept away by a police raid, but Cart bars are coming back in Soi 23.

BigMark0
08-15-19, 05:07
I had a really bad experience there and would never go back. But maybe it was my fault. I noticed one of the girls sitting outside lived near me, so I went to talk to her and tell her I have seen her at the market. She asked if I wanted a massage. I told her I only had 800 baht in my wallet and didn't want any sexy stuff, just normal massage. She said OK no problem, normal massage was 500 baht. (I had already had sex 2 times that day and was not really in the mood, but I really wanted to get her contact info, plus I could go for a normal massage).

When we got to the room she did a normal massage for about 10 minutes then immediately tried to upsell me to BJ for 2000 and sex for 3000. She took off all her clothes and really tried to get me to commit. I told her again I didn't have the cash, and she just said. "you go ATM, you go ATM" She was really hot, but I was a little upset that we had agreed downstairs for normal massage and she promised me. We went back and forth for a while with her trying to get me to commit. Then when she realized I wasn't going to upsell her mood changed immediately. She started to call me a "bad guy", telling me how she thought I was going to be a "good guy" but really I was a "bad guy" and to never talk to her again. She also told me that at that shop, the lady gets Zero Baht from the massage fee and actually has to pay the shop 300 baht for each customer, so she was losing money with me. I was really shocked by this. I know a lot of shops take a large percentage of the massage fee, but I had not heard of the shop charging the ladies extra for the customers. Afterwards I asked 2 other ladies downstairs if that is really how the shop worked and they confirmed. I ended up giving her all the money I had, which was about 800-900 baht and leaving.

I really had a bad taste in my mouth from this shop. If you go, just know that you will have to upsell to something. The prices are high too, compared to what you can get just around the corner. I guess they just prey on tourists that really don't know.

That being said. If I was new to BKK and I was in the mood for sex and I didn't know what else was available, I probably would have paid the 2000 or 3000 and had a good time.


First review so be kind.

Having a leisurely stroll down Sukhumvit and the line up of ladies outside of this Parlor definitely caught my eye. A mix of both Ladies and TS. Decided, without much difficulty, on Nana. Average height with an amazing figure. Paid at the desk at the top of the stairs and led to a clean and well air conditioned room. Offered a shower and with the heat outside happily accepted. Proceeded to get a very acceptable massage with an appropriate amount of teasing just to get the juices flowing. Offered all services and decided on full, as you would. Nana proceeded to strip down to reveal what I already suspected to be an incredible figure. Everything was on the table (pun slightly intended) and after not much time Nana had succeeded in draining me completely..

Bobloblaw020
08-15-19, 06:56
I walk past this place every other day. It is the one just past Nana BTS stairs where the old tired LB's hassle the fuck out of you when you pass for massage. Try to grab you etc, annoying as fuck. If there are "ladies" there they would most likely be post op.Not my experience at all Bubba Boy. As I said it looks like the place had some work done, the rooms and reception all looking clean. There was no hassle or grabbing on my part (maybe that's down to me though! But I don't walk past it every other day. Maybe the spark of recognition pushes them towards you. Either way a good time was had and thought I would pass it on.

Bob.

EihTooms
08-15-19, 07:14
Is this Nang Massage next to Family Mart and On 8, or Cozy Massage just a bit closer to Soi 8? Or something else? Giving addresses in Thailand is not usually very useful. Ha ha. I never walk in this spot really so not much idea. Coming off the BTS stairs one would miss it I think. If I would get off BTS at Nana, I would always head in direction to Landmark. I suppose I used to go to Lollytas on Soi 8 when Anne was there. Too long ago now.
...Nang Seeda Spa and Massage is the shop on Sukhumvit between the stairs and the up escalator for Exit 1 of BTS Nana station. Actually, now you can ride the elevator at Exit 1 for that BTS station. The elevator is more or less intended for the new Q House condo complex tenants but free to use for anyone and that shop is immediately to your right as you step out of the elevator on the ground floor. Yes, next to Family Mart.

I walk by that place all the time, too. Even got a massage there a couple of years ago. It was definitely going to be a Happy Ending experience. But I am just so not into having sex on a 24" wide massage table in the middle of the room, I declined the offer. Mostly I was just curious to see how the set up was. The room and bath area was nice. But, still, not a comfortable environment, furniture wise, for me to enjoy either fucking or getting a blowjob. So I made a date with that particular girl for after she was off work. She came to my room, which is much more accommodating for sexual romps. Can't even remember her name now.

Yes, I have said in the past that if your timing and the stars are aligned just right, you will see 2-3 very attractive girls sitting or standing outside that shop looking for customers. Most of the time, what you see outside that shop is not worth the time or money, imo. Maybe 2 are LBs out of an overall crew of 8. And most of those remaining are not terrible, but not really inspiring. HOWEVER, I assume the op saw and took 1 of the 2-3 real head turners who are sometimes on the job or are not busy upstairs with a customer and make a rare appearance downstairs.

Bobloblaw020
08-15-19, 07:38
Yes, I have said in the past that if your timing and the stars are aligned just right, you will see 2-3 very attractive girls sitting or standing outside that shop looking for customers. Most of the time, what you see outside that shop is not worth the time or money, imo. Maybe 2 are LBs out of an overall crew of 8. And most of those remaining are not terrible, but not really inspiring. HOWEVER, I assume the op saw and took 1 of the 2-3 real head turners who are sometimes on the job or are not busy upstairs with a customer and make a rare appearance downstairs.I am not a very regular visitor to Bangkok so I bow to your superior knowledge of the area. I guess I could have just been lucky, but Nana was definitely a lucky find regardless. I may have to use the after hours date idea for next time. Thanks.

BL.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-15-19, 11:23
Nang Seeda Spa and MassageAny details about price, time, and services?

Bobloblaw020
08-15-19, 14:03
Any details about price, time, and services?Price 500 at the door plus 1500 for the extra.

Time was 1 hour.

Services, nothing seemed to be off the table.

Rodwint2
08-15-19, 15:26
Nang Seeda Spa and Massage is the shop on Sukhumvit between the stairs and the up escalator for Exit 1 of BTS Nana station. Actually, now you can ride the elevator at Exit 1 for that BTS station. The elevator is more or less intended for the new Q House condo complex tenants but free to use for anyone and that shop is immediately to your right as you step out of the elevator on the ground floor. Yes, next to Family Mart.
Are you sure it is a "Family Mart"? The only one I know of is on Soi 13. There is a 7-11 near Exit 1, that is around a Bukhara's Indian Restaurant. The women are between the restaurant and the 7-11 and tend to be bothersome at times. There is another "August Salon" on the other side of the 7-11 that offers massages and haircuts.

EihTooms
08-15-19, 17:34
Are you sure it is a "Family Mart"? The only one I know of is on Soi 13. There is a 7-11 near Exit 1, that is around a Bukhara's Indian Restaurant. The women are between the restaurant and the 7-11 and tend to be bothersome at times. There is another "August Salon" on the other side of the 7-11 that offers massages and haircuts.Ah, my bad on the Exit number at BTS Nana station. You jogged my memory now and were right to question the location. Nang Seeda Spa & Massage is in fact between the steps and the up escalator at Exit 4 at BTS Nana station, not Exit 1 as I said before.

The same elevator option and Family Mart mention still applies. But you have reminded me of the correct Exit at that BTS station for that particular shop. It is Exit 4, not Exit 1.

EihTooms
08-15-19, 17:57
Nang Seeda Spa and Massage is the shop on Sukhumvit between the stairs and the up escalator for Exit 1 of BTS Nana station. Actually, now you can ride the elevator at Exit 1 for that BTS station. The elevator is more or less intended for the new Q House condo complex tenants but free to use for anyone and that shop is immediately to your right as you step out of the elevator on the ground floor. Yes, next to Family Mart.

I walk by that place all the time, too. Even got a massage there a couple of years ago. It was definitely going to be a Happy Ending experience. But I am just so not into having sex on a 24" wide massage table in the middle of the room, I declined the offer. Mostly I was just curious to see how the set up was. The room and bath area was nice. But, still, not a comfortable environment, furniture wise, for me to enjoy either fucking or getting a blowjob. So I made a date with that particular girl for after she was off work. She came to my room, which is much more accommodating for sexual romps. Can't even remember her name now.

Yes, I have said in the past that if your timing and the stars are aligned just right, you will see 2-3 very attractive girls sitting or standing outside that shop looking for customers. Most of the time, what you see outside that shop is not worth the time or money, imo. Maybe 2 are LBs out of an overall crew of 8. And most of those remaining are not terrible, but not really inspiring. HOWEVER, I assume the op saw and took 1 of the 2-3 real head turners who are sometimes on the job or are not busy upstairs with a customer and make a rare appearance downstairs.I just wanted to add a correction to this post of mine after a memory jog from Rodwint2 that the correct exit for the shop mentioned above is Exit 4 at BTS Nana station, not Exit 1.

As an aside, I am sure I had Exit 1 stuck in my mind because very recently I had been telling several friends about another Exit 1 direction having to do with the new MRT Blue Line extension where one of the new stations, MRT Sanam Chai, is about a 25 minute moderate paced walk or a 5 minute auto taxi/tuk-tuk ride to Khaosan Road. Nice addition to the dining, bar hopping and exploring options for those staying near an MRT station, imo.

BigMark0
08-16-19, 06:09
Price 500 at the door plus 1500 for the extra.

Time was 1 hour.

Services, nothing seemed to be off the table.What was the 1500 for? HJ?

I was quoted 1000 for HJ, 2000 for BJ, and 3000 for sex. Maybe every lady is different and they can set their own prices. Plus it seemed you could negotiate. Again, I really wouldn't recommend this place, there are so many better places for the value and service. Seems like a tourist trap.

Remember the moment you walk in the Lady is already -300 so the pressure for extras is intense.

Dodochen
08-16-19, 07:25
Some massage places support just one shot by one session (not depends on massage time).

Other ones are fine for two or more shots like mangos, tulip, snow white.

Is there anywhere a list of all multishot fullservice places? Beside of the popular places, it looks like gambling.

And other question. Know someone a good gym with air conditioner not fare away from Phrom Phong station?.

Thanks.

Nsqtr
08-20-19, 14:52
Hi,

Looking for recommendations for places in Bangkok that do edging / teasing massages. Where they tease you till you're about about to cum before stopping and letting you cool off, then starting again.

Seems like most places only offer the standard handjobs where they try to make you cum ASAP.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Gargano19
08-22-19, 10:38
First review so be kind.

Having a leisurely stroll down Sukhumvit and the line up of ladies outside of this Parlor definitely caught my eye. A mix of both Ladies and TS. Decided, without much difficulty, on Nana. Average height with an amazing figure. Paid at the desk at the top of the stairs and led to a clean and well air conditioned room. Offered a shower and with the heat outside happily accepted. Proceeded to get a very acceptable massage with an appropriate amount of teasing just to get the juices flowing. Offered all services and decided on full, as you would. Nana proceeded to strip down to reveal what I already suspected to be an incredible figure. Everything was on the table (pun slightly intended) and after not much time Nana had succeeded in draining me completely.

Location 9/10 Very clean and modern looking. I believe it has recently been refurbed.

Girls 9/10 I would have had no problem picking any of the ladies waiting outside.

Would I return. Yes.

158,1 Sukhumvit Rd, Khwaeng Khlong Toei, Khet Khlong Toei, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon 10110, Thailand.Nang seeda shop.

Been there once couple of weeks back.

Like other, I go through them every couple days. Most looks undoable or lbs. One I went in with, was a rare young looking, small lady, in her late 20's.

Like ET said, place is not that good, small rooms. So never went again.

But experience was good with girl. She teased a lot during massage. Price usually depends on ladies, she offered me 500 for HJ and 1000 for full sex.

If I saw some good girl sitting outside again, won't mind going again.

Syzygies
08-22-19, 17:31
Are you sure it is a "Family Mart"? The only one I know of is on Soi 13. There is a 7-11 near Exit 1, that is around a Bukhara's Indian Restaurant. The women are between the restaurant and the 7-11 and tend to be bothersome at times. There is another "August Salon" on the other side of the 7-11 that offers massages and haircuts.I have no clue about exits for BTS numbering, but here is Nang Seeda (Nang Siidaa) next to Family Mart (I thought had already been mentioned was on the Even Soi numbers side):

https://goo.gl/maps/8tG34V4ytwUD2JtR6

In general Sukhumvit seems to have plenty of Family marts past Asoke, which I frequent more than Nana area.

Nang Sida (more normal spelling) was apparently was the wife of Rama in Ayutthaya folklore and supposed to have extreme beauty.

Syzygies
08-22-19, 18:02
Yes, I have said in the past that if your timing and the stars are aligned just right, you will see 2-3 very attractive girls sitting or standing outside that shop looking for customers. Most of the time, what you see outside that shop is not worth the time or money, imo. Maybe 2 are LBs out of an overall crew of 8. And most of those remaining are not terrible, but not really inspiring. HOWEVER, I assume the op saw and took 1 of the 2-3 real head turners who are sometimes on the job or are not busy upstairs with a customer and make a rare appearance downstairs.I am quite okay with a stunning girl outside as long as she can be fucked. Not sure why a fucking shop wants to be a Spa? Mixed business I guess? So I would not care at all about the LBs and others non attractives working there.

I might say that nearly the majority of MPs I ever visited were due to seeing a really pretty girl outside the shop, either arriving, or leaving, or sitting outside. I was therefore only interested in one girl at the shop, at the time.

E. g. Gaew at Pink, Bai Fern at Yoremichi, Sonya at Orient, Angie at Cherry, Anne at Loly-tas (okay Not an MP), various girls at Boss and Can Cam, 2 girls at New Massage, etc. And a few I forget the names of now.

Fabulous tits was a factor with several of the girls but not all. Some had small tits but very pretty face.

So many times it happened. I was not at all interested in the line up inside each time. It became quite irrelevant once I had been fixated on a girl seen outside. Many of them were memorable and repeated if possible. In several of the shops, never ever found a suitable replacement too, if the target girl left.

Crocodilexp
08-22-19, 22:49
Some massage places support just one shot by one session (not depends on massage time).

Other ones are fine for two or more shots like mangos, tulip, snow white.

Is there anywhere a list of all multishot fullservice places? Beside of the popular places, it looks like gambling.
I asked this before, and there's no conclusive answer. It seems that there are very few places where it's a matter of policy of the shop, it generally depends on the girl. You need to ask during the lineup.

To the above add Boss (some girls might not offer 2 shots, but they have a clear written card about what each one does). Cherry was fine at one point, not sure if they still are.

EihTooms
08-23-19, 07:54
I am quite okay with a stunning girl outside as long as she can be fucked. Not sure why a fucking shop wants to be a Spa? Mixed business I guess? So I would not care at all about the LBs and others non attractives working there.

...The 2-3 very attractive ones at Nang Seeda Spa and Massage that I have seen on rare occasion are noticeably slim. There are a couple of others who are much more often seen sitting outside who are attractive, imo, but would not really be considered slim. Fit, maybe, but not slim.

This shop's owner has a few other shops around town, including on Soi 22 and, I think, a new and relatively unknown location in that first small sub soi on the right as you walk down Soi 8, just past the more famous Bamboo Massage shop. I know the girls who work for that lady move from one shop to another on different days. So maybe the younger, slimmer, more attractive ones are working in the other locations more often than at Nang Seeda Spa and Massage on the even number soi side of Sukhumvit at BTS Nana next to the Family Mart.

Or maybe those girls stopped working for those shops entirely by now. I was told by one of the girls I saw in a different location that they are not particularly happy that so many damn massage shops are opening up all over the place, especially by their own employer. Not enough customers to keep them busy as it is.

Syzygies
08-24-19, 05:32
Or maybe those girls stopped working for those shops entirely by now. I was told by one of the girls I saw in a different location that they are not particularly happy that so many damn massage shops are opening up all over the place, especially by their own employer. Not enough customers to keep them busy as it is.Ha ha. Yeh 10 thousand massage shops around Bangkok, or is it more. Always baffled me why so many new shops would open when clearly not enough customers. One would think an owner should concentrate on quality and being busy, rather than a chain of average or worse shops, but maybe I am naïve to think that could actually work.

Club 102 had an interesting approach. It did not impress me, because the girls were not up to the quality of the furniture. Ha ha. However perhaps the girls were above average looking, just not far enough above. A shop only needs one really pretty girl to get me in. The rest can be ugly. I am not normally trying multiple girls at the same shop unless the lineup is extraordinarily good.

Same could be said of Nana Plaza bars. So many new bars were unsuccessful and closed quickly. Some were very poorly executed as well in terms of lighting, layout, girls, etc. Candyland was a classic disaster that did not last long, as example. In the back right corner was bad enough, but the interior was horrible. How many ladyboy bars do we really have to have these days?

Egy Monger New
08-24-19, 16:42
Having been a regular in the BKK scene since as far back as 2006, I have to say this will be my last visit ever as service levels have now reached a new low. Indonesia and Philippines, which I have had very positive experiences at, will be my regular destinations from now on.

Visited Mango, and the Mamasan, although she recognizes me as a regular, insisted on 1500 payment upfront on top of the base massage fee, which was never the case in any of my previous visits since as far back as 2011. When I went upstairs, I believe I was intentionally made to wait so long (up to 15 minutes!) just so she can bring a bottle of water. Anyway, on to the main action: no cat bath, no BBBJ (even after the promise of a tip! Cannot suck her tits, cannot 69. I got dressed and walked out to the Mamasan explaining what happened, then she allowed me to choose another girl. However, when we got to the room, the new girl, who must have overheard the conversation downstairs, made it clear upfront that she won't do a BBBJ or DATY. When I asked about a good old fashioned cat bath, she refused as well. Needless to say, I walked out again and had a long chat with the Mamasan about the drop in standards lately and a suggestion of finding a new lineup of ladies to work in the shop which she replied "now Thailand too hard find new lady". Perhaps they've all moved to Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc?

Also popped over to Snow White, where I was again asked to pay 1500 upfront on top of the massage fee. When I insisted to only pay the massage fee as I always do and was ready to walk away, the Mamasan changed her mind. OK, pick Aom and go the room then asked to wait 5 minutes. Ching ching? Yes 5 minutes I go down stair bring water. 5 minutes pass and then another 10 minutes. After shower I asked for a BBBJ, however she refused citing "HIV". Unable to get an erection, I then proceeded to suck on her tits to which she pushed my face away saying "jep". The final nail in the coffin was when I tried to DFK her, which then she pointed to her braces and put on a painful expression on her face. I walked out and of course the Mamasan was acting all defensive saying she is a new girl and there is nothing she can do about it (bullshit of course, as I recognized her during my previous visit last year). To make matters worse, the Mamasan even had the cheek to insult me in Thai, saying asshole on my way out, which was nothing I'd ever seen before.

On the bright side, Lollitta's on Soi 8 was as good as ever (although there is now only 1 girl in the lineup who is below the age of 30). BBBJ + CIM guaranteed.

Akane on Soi 33 was decent as well, with rimming and BBBJ still standard. Again, the lineup is still the same as a decade ago and the there is now not a single lady in her 20's but at least the price of a 60 minute session has not gone up.

No wonder they complain about a lack of customers these days -- the attitude sucks!

Gargano19
08-24-19, 19:20
Having been a regular in the BKK scene since as far back as 2006, I have to say this will be my last visit ever as service levels have now reached a new low. Indonesia and Philippines, which I have had very positive experiences at, will be my regular destinations from now on.

Visited Mango, and the Mamasan, although she recognizes me as a regular, insisted on 1500 payment upfront on top of the base massage fee, which was never the case in any of my previous visits since as far back as 2011. When I went upstairs, I believe I was intentionally made to wait so long (up to 15 minutes!) just so she can bring a bottle of water. Anyway, on to the main action: no cat bath, no BBBJ (even after the promise of a tip! Cannot suck her tits, cannot 69. I got dressed and walked out to the Mamasan explaining what happened, then she allowed me to choose another girl. However, when we got to the room, the new girl, who must have overheard the conversation downstairs, made it clear upfront that she won't do a BBBJ or DATY. When I asked about a good old fashioned cat bath, she refused as well. Needless to say, I walked out again and had a long chat with the Mamasan about the drop in standards lately and a suggestion of finding a new lineup of ladies to work in the shop which she replied "now Thailand too hard find new lady". Perhaps they've all moved to Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc?

Also popped over to Snow White, where I was again asked to pay 1500 upfront on top of the massage fee. When I insisted to only pay the massage fee as I always do and was ready to walk away, the Mamasan changed her mind. OK, pick Aom and go the room then asked to wait 5 minutes. Ching ching? Yes 5 minutes I go down stair bring water. 5 minutes pass and then another 10 minutes. After shower I asked for a BBBJ, however she refused citing "HIV". Unable to get an erection, I then proceeded to suck on her tits to which she pushed my face away saying "jep". The final nail in the coffin was when I tried to DFK her, which then she pointed to her braces and put on a painful expression on her face. I walked out and of course the Mamasan was acting all defensive saying she is a new girl and there is nothing she can do about it (bullshit of course, as I recognized her during my previous visit last year). To make matters worse, the Mamasan even had the cheek to insult me in Thai, saying asshole on my way out, which was nothing I'd ever seen before.

On the bright side, Lollitta's on Soi 8 was as good as ever (although there is now only 1 girl in the lineup who is below the age of 30). BBBJ + CIM guaranteed.

Akane on Soi 33 was decent as well, with rimming and BBBJ still standard. Again, the lineup is still the same as a decade ago and the there is now not a single lady in her 20's but at least the price of a 60 minute session has not gone up.

No wonder they complain about a lack of customers these days -- the attitude sucks!Agree with each sentence.

Service has been very mechanical lately, and my experience of Bkk is not that old as compared to you or others. But last couple of years, girls are either very inexperienced, not good looking or ones with looks are have huge attitude problem.

Don't want to sound too-complain-ish, it's not all dark and gloom here, some girls and spas are still very good. But they're not as common, let's say, as they were in early 2010's.

I agree, most of good talent is going to Korea or Singapore, because money is good there, and clientele is mostly asian.

Goatscrot
08-25-19, 01:09
Having been a regular in the BKK scene since as far back as 2006, I have to say this will be my last visit ever as service levels have now reached a new low. Indonesia and Philippines, which I have had very positive experiences at, will be my regular destinations from now on.

Visited Mango, and the Mamasan, although she recognizes me as a regular, insisted on 1500 payment upfront on top of the base massage fee, which was never the case in any of my previous visits since as far back as 2011. When I went upstairs, I believe I was intentionally made to wait so long (up to 15 minutes!) just so she can bring a bottle of water. Anyway, on to the main action: no cat bath, no BBBJ (even after the promise of a tip! Cannot suck her tits, cannot 69. I got dressed and walked out to the Mamasan explaining what happened, then she allowed me to choose another girl. However, when we got to the room, the new girl, who must have overheard the conversation downstairs, made it clear upfront that she won't do a BBBJ or DATY. When I asked about a good old fashioned cat bath, she refused as well. Needless to say, I walked out again and had a long chat with the Mamasan about the drop in standards lately and a suggestion of finding a new lineup of ladies to work in the shop which she replied "now Thailand too hard find new lady". Perhaps they've all moved to Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc?

Also popped over to Snow White, where I was again asked to pay 1500 upfront on top of the massage fee. When I insisted to only pay the massage fee as I always do and was ready to walk away, the Mamasan changed her mind. OK, pick Aom and go the room then asked to wait 5 minutes. Ching ching? Yes 5 minutes I go down stair bring water. 5 minutes pass and then another 10 minutes. After shower I asked for a BBBJ, however she refused citing "HIV". Unable to get an erection, I then proceeded to suck on her tits to which she pushed my face away saying "jep". The final nail in the coffin was when I tried to DFK her, which then she pointed to her braces and put on a painful expression on her face. I walked out and of course the Mamasan was acting all defensive saying she is a new girl and there is nothing she can do about it (bullshit of course, as I recognized her during my previous visit last year). To make matters worse, the Mamasan even had the cheek to insult me in Thai, saying asshole on my way out, which was nothing I'd ever seen before.

On the bright side, Lollitta's on Soi 8 was as good as ever (although there is now only 1 girl in the lineup who is below the age of 30). BBBJ + CIM guaranteed.

Akane on Soi 33 was decent as well, with rimming and BBBJ still standard. Again, the lineup is still the same as a decade ago and the there is now not a single lady in her 20's but at least the price of a 60 minute session has not gone up.

No wonder they complain about a lack of customers these days -- the attitude sucks!Yikes. May I ask when did this happen? Recently?

The fact the gals are talking about HIV lends credence to the Ferry discussion on the Tulip thread. If indeed the gals at the pse shops are refusing BBBJ, then they will surely all fail, given the extreme lack of lookers. Is this the end of pse shops in Bkk? My guess is the insistence on paying upfront is because they know customers will be unhappy with no bbbj. Aom is certainly not new.

Prices up, service way down, and gals headed to Korea, the middle east, et al. It's a pretty grim time for the p4 p scene in Thailand. One I am not sure it will rebound from.

Rising prices, strong baht, more difficult visas, could be time to move on.

Crocodilexp
08-25-19, 02:38
Mango... no cat bath, no BBBJ, cannot suck her tits, cannot 69.

Snow White... BBBJ, however she refused citing "HIV". Unable to get an erection, I then proceeded to suck on her tits to which she pushed my face away saying "jep". The final nail in the coffin was when I tried to DFK her, which then she pointed to her braces and put on a painful expression on her face. Mango had declining service standards for a while now, so I'm not especially surprised, although BBBJ was always standard. Snow White, on the other hand, was a fairly reliable place. Perhaps the recent HIV scare (presumably one of the Tulip girls tested positive) is to blame for the lack of BBBJ, but that doesn't explain the other service flops.

This is the worst news I saw in this forum in a long time. Unless we see some magical reversal, it looks like the days of PSE shops are over. They have been one of the last bastions of reliable and value-for-money paid sex in Bangkok. For me, the only remaining places worth visiting are the BJ bars like Duangporn's Haven or Star of Light.

Even looking at the entire world, there aren't many venues similar to Bangkok PSE shops where you can reliably get a session that includes all the non-vanilla stuff (A+, deep throat, rimming etc.). There are only individual providers, plenty of empty promises and (maybe) some super-overpriced clubs (FKK?) offering this. I don't know of any PSE shops in Indonesia or the Philippines, though plain non-PSE sessions might still be better (and cheaper?) over there.

Gargano19
08-25-19, 05:42
Even looking at the entire world, there aren't many venues similar to Bangkok PSE shops where you can reliably get a session that includes all the non-vanilla stuff (A+, deep throat, rimming etc.). There are only individual providers, plenty of empty promises and (maybe) some super-overpriced clubs (FKK?) offering this. I don't know of any PSE shops in Indonesia or the Philippines, though plain non-PSE sessions might still be better (and cheaper?) over there.Bangkok and Pattaya are know for these cheap and affordable pse shops, not a lot of cities provide services like that. Some shops in Hong Kong and Singapore have non-vanilla stuff.

In europe, some fkks give these but like you said price is super-high. They will keep adding 20-30 euros for each act you want, it will be quite mechanical too.

Syzygies
08-25-19, 06:26
In europe, some fkks give these but like you said price is super-high. They will keep adding 20-30 euros for each act you want, it will be quite mechanical too.Which place is that? Not sure which "acts" you are referring too. Many major FKKs charge 50 Euros for CIM, and 100 for anal (I don't think anal is available at a small price). Most other acts are free (if the girl is willing to provide them). Perhaps not free for bullshit stuff like COF, COB etc (but COB is surely not worth any money). CIM will not be mechanical at all, in my experience. The girls claim they love it. Ha ha. Less pussy wear and tear, and at 50 Euros the do like to give it. I never really wanted anal for 100, and usually the girls would not offer it. Depends on size of your cock and how long they think till you pop. I. e. Girls don't want to tolerate a cock in the ass for 1 hour.

I don't really think that many girls prefer anal fucking or actually like it a lot. I have not met girls claiming to prefer to be ass fucked, except when they had a problem with the pussy and needed to rest it.

Some of the FKK girls give a very superior GFE, and / or PSE. They are not all "mechanical". The only reason to prefer Thai girls really, is that they are cheaper for an extended time booking. You get much more time for your money in Thailand. For those wanting a quickie, FKK girls can be quite cost effective, even costing less than a Thai bargirl ST, especially in the "Red Carpet" shops.

I would not like to take Thai bargirls for a quickie. Too expensive for the time. Better to visit a BJ shop, or take a girl off Soi 4.

Gargano19
08-25-19, 07:20
Which place is that? Not sure which "acts" you are referring too. Many major FKKs charge 50 Euros for CIM, and 100 for anal (I don't think anal is available at a small price). Most other acts are free (if the girl is willing to provide them). Perhaps not free for bullshit stuff like COF, COB etc (but COB is surely not worth any money). CIM will not be mechanical at all, in my experience. The girls claim they love it. Ha ha. Less pussy wear and tear, and at 50 Euros the do like to give it. I never really wanted anal for 100, and usually the girls would not offer it. Depends on size of your cock and how long they think till you pop. I. e. Girls don't want to tolerate a cock in the ass for 1 hour.

I don't really think that many girls prefer anal fucking or actually like it a lot. I have not met girls claiming to prefer to be ass fucked, except when they had a problem with the pussy and needed to rest it.

Some of the FKK girls give a very superior GFE, and / or PSE. They are not all "mechanical". The only reason to prefer Thai girls really, is that they are cheaper for an extended time booking. You get much more time for your money in Thailand. For those wanting a quickie, FKK girls can be quite cost effective, even costing less than a Thai bargirl ST, especially in the "Red Carpet" shops.

I would not like to take Thai bargirls for a quickie. Too expensive for the time. Better to visit a BJ shop, or take a girl off Soi 4.I have only been to Artemis and Magnum, laat year, and for me they were mechanical. They were quite hot for sure, but felt like they were following a script. I had to try very hard to take charge.

Yes, 50 for CIM and 100 euros for anal. They also asked 30 euros for DFK, 20-somerhing for DT, 30 for DATY. LOL felt like a menu. But not a regular in FKKs so it could be different at other FKKs. Or maybe they just overstated the prices, as it was my first time at both fkks.

Turgid
08-25-19, 19:48
.......... insisted on 1500 payment upfront on top of the base massage fee.............no cat bath, no BBBJ (even after the promise of a tip! Cannot suck her tits, cannot 69............ made it clear upfront that she won't do a BBBJ or DATY. When I asked about a good old fashioned cat bath, she refused as well. ..............Also popped over to Snow White, where I was again asked to pay 1500 upfront on top of the massage fee. ................ After shower I asked for a BBBJ, however she refused citing "HIV". .......... she pushed my face away saying "jep". The final nail in the coffin was when I tried to DFK her, which then she pointed to her braces and put on a painful expression on her face. ............the attitude sucks!Somehow I suspect that Asian customers have a different experience. I wonder why that is so.

Tti123
08-26-19, 05:09
Anyone have any info on.

1) puru puru. On the same street as mango /102/ addicts. Seems to have a number of cute girls.

2) daisy dream. Decor looks interesting, tempted to swing by because of it.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Rick Rock
08-26-19, 07:02
Maybe the sky isn't falling. Just walked into Snow White, grabbed the first woman I saw. No braces, but she could use some by the looks of her teeth. Ten seconds later we're in the room and my cock is all the way in her mouth (and throat). No shower or anything. She basically face fucked herself for about 10 minutes then I told her I wanted A+. Slid right in pumped for another 10 minutes. Then took off the rubber and back to her mouth to finish. 1500, paid on the way out. Forty minutes all together. I left early on my own account. She was offering another shot. "Thank you come again. ".

Goatscrot
08-26-19, 11:20
Maybe the sky isn't falling. Just walked into Snow White, grabbed the first woman I saw. No braces, but she could use some by the looks of her teeth. Ten seconds later we're in the room and my cock is all the way in her mouth (and throat). No shower or anything. She basically face fucked herself for about 10 minutes then I told her I wanted A+. Slid right in pumped for another 10 minutes. Then took off the rubber and back to her mouth to finish. 1500, paid on the way out. Forty minutes all together. I left early on my own account. She was offering another shot. "Thank you come again. ".That's great news. Which gal was she? Good body? No baby damage?

Whoreman
08-26-19, 12:32
Maybe the sky isn't falling. Just walked into Snow White, grabbed the first woman I saw. No braces, but she could use some by the looks of her teeth. Ten seconds later we're in the room and my cock is all the way in her mouth (and throat). No shower or anything. She basically face fucked herself for about 10 minutes then I told her I wanted A+. Slid right in pumped for another 10 minutes. Then took off the rubber and back to her mouth to finish. 1500, paid on the way out. Forty minutes all together. I left early on my own account. She was offering another shot. "Thank you come again. ".So you paid 400 on the way in and 1500 on the way out?

Whoreman
08-26-19, 12:35
That's great news. Which gal was she? Good body? No baby damage?Rick Rock says he grabbed the first woman he saw and mentions nothing about her looks apart from her wonky teeth so he doesn't appear to be too fussy.

Syzygies
08-27-19, 02:57
Anyone have any info on.

1) puru puru. On the same street as mango /102/ addicts. Seems to have a number of cute girls.

2) daisy dream. Decor looks interesting, tempted to swing by because of it.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.There is only one Addict. (no S). Thai venues rarely have a plural name (Plurals don't exit in Thai Language). Tulip rather than Tulips. There has to be an exception I guess "Butterflies" bar but a Thai could easily call it Butterfly Bar.

Fishing? I hope a normal poster would not post like this on the first post.

By a strange coincidence Tti is the middle 3 letters of Kitty backwards, and web shows Kitty is associated with Puru Puru.

There, I gave Kitty some publicity. Ha ha.

So the trend to make stylish MPs continues. I don't care, I just need pretty girls.

Syzygies
08-27-19, 03:06
Or maybe they just overstated the prices, as it was my first time at both fkks.It would be hard to give a very fair assessment based on limited experience.

I have not been to those two, but also never experienced all those miscellaneous charges. Scams do occur. It may take time to find the great girls, but some get highly recommended on the forum. Some girls perform very differently depending on the money spend though.

Rick Rock
08-27-19, 08:04
She was fat and ugly with a big nasty stretch marked gut and saggy little tits, as per usual for Snow White and increasingly Bangkok in general. I haven't seen a slim good looking chick with a good natural no-baby body in places like Snow White, Cherry, Tulip for a decade.

If you want good looking women with no baby damage, farang places in Thailand are to be avoided. Where you find the natural babes like the kapoo clubs for Thai guys away from Sukhumvit, it's usually starfish service and maybe not even a CBJ let alone BBBJ.

For good PSE performance from an attractive woman with a good body these days you got to either pony up the cash and go to Japan or hit the FKK in Europe.

In this case I gave the woman 1500 after I showered, then 400 at the counter downstairs, same way its always been at Snow White for me. Didn't notice any changes. Even think they're using the same sheets and towels from when I was last there. Got to say I'm not eager to return though. When you bust your nut and look down at what you're doing and with who, it isn't exactly a proud moment.

Goatscrot
08-27-19, 10:23
She was fat and ugly with a big nasty stretch marked gut and saggy little tits, as per usual for Snow White and increasingly Bangkok in general. I haven't seen a slim good looking chick with a good natural no-baby body in places like Snow White, Cherry, Tulip for a decade.

If you want good looking women with no baby damage, farang places in Thailand are to be avoided. Where you find the natural babes like the kapoo clubs for Thai guys away from Sukhumvit, it's usually starfish service and maybe not even a CBJ let alone BBBJ.

For good PSE performance from an attractive woman with a good body these days you got to either pony up the cash and go to Japan or hit the FKK in Europe.

In this case I gave the woman 1500 after I showered, then 400 at the counter downstairs, same way its always been at Snow White for me. Didn't notice any changes. Even think they're using the same sheets and towels from when I was last there. Got to say I'm not eager to return though. When you bust your nut and look down at what you're doing and with who, it isn't exactly a proud moment.Perfect assessment of the scene in Bkk these days and the pse shops in general. After you shoot, it's for sure a flight reflex. Look down and think Wtf?

Tti123
08-27-19, 10:24
Not fishing for anything just curious for information if anyone has any or wants to share. Also I didn't know about plurals in the Thai language. Thanks for sharing. Pretty cool nugget of info!

Jimmy Boy 99
08-27-19, 14:57
She was fat and ugly with a big nasty stretch marked gut and saggy little tits, as per usual for Snow White and increasingly Bangkok in general. I haven't seen a slim good looking chick with a good natural no-baby body in places like Snow White, Cherry, Tulip for a decade. Snip

In this case I gave the woman 1500 after I showered, then 400 at the counter downstairs, same way its always been at Snow White for me. Didn't notice any changes. Even think they're using the same sheets and towels from when I was last there. Got to say I'm not eager to return though. When you bust your nut and look down at what you're doing and with who, it isn't exactly a proud moment.I've never understood the point of fucking a "fat and ugly with a big nasty stretch marked gut and saggy little tits" woman to "bust a nut". How about rubbing one out, saving yourself money and regret, until you find one that merits paying to fuck?.

Egy Monger New
08-27-19, 15:48
Feeling the quality was not at Lollita's and other BJ bars is not the same as it was in the past, with all old hags without 1 or 2 at the most who are under the age of 30, I decided to try 7th Heaven.

Picked Dew from the little tablet the Mamasan, then got a free drink and asked to wait. Dew didn't look quite like the photo (darker skin) but at least she is not an old hag like the ones at Lollitas.

Bumped my head on the way into the sliding door, so taller mongers need to take care. Inside the (clean) room got my member cleaned then proceeded with action. Technique and suction was actually quite good and reminded me of the old days at Lollitas, where they lucked your balls and gave a small cat bath first. Even got a rimjob while she worked on the handjob, which is extremely rare these days. Needless to say, I shot my load soon after. As we weren't even 15 minutes into the session, she offered a 2nd shot but since I already visited Akane earlier I knew I wouldn't make it.

Overall, quite satisfied. The question is will it still be the same standard 5 or 10 years down the line?

Total damage was 1300.

Sinofaguo
08-27-19, 16:58
If you want good looking women with no baby damage, farang places in Thailand are to be avoided. Where you find the natural babes like the kapoo clubs for Thai guys away from Sukhumvit, it's usually starfish service and maybe not even a CBJ let alone BBBJ.Places like doki doki have good looking girls too with GFE and sometimes PSE service but I don't think any do A.


For good PSE performance from an attractive woman with a good body these days you got to either pony up the cash and go to Japan or hit the FKK in Europe.Much closer than Germany and cheaper than Japan you have places like Macau, Vietnam, Philippines.

Goatscrot
08-28-19, 00:21
I've never understood the point of fucking a "fat and ugly with a big nasty stretch marked gut and saggy little tits" woman to "bust a nut". How about rubbing one out, saving yourself money and regret, until you find one that merits paying to fuck?.Could not agree more. Wank, save the money, and use it for something else. Every time I go to the oilies and don't pull I think, "I just saved 2 k. " I "save" a lot these days.

Aron001
08-28-19, 01:31
Fellow mongers,

I will be stopping by BKK next week for a short business trip. I plan to visit that Dharin shop with the amateur video lady to see if she is still there, anybody wants to join? Just asking.

I read some reviews and looks like the massage customer service has gone down, can you guys point out to a massage spot that offers great customer service? I'm not referring to the shops dedicated for sex but more to shops with legit massage that lead to sex if you wanted to.

What I mean by customer service? I mean from the point you enter the massage shop (legit massage shop), how you are welcomed? They give you a beer or drink? The process of selection, the ladies attitude smile? Body language? (not fakers). During massage lady rushes you for especial service? Or takes her time to find your erotic spots to make you hard? (I don't think anyone likes to be rushed to sex). Then lets you choose if you want sex or not. And finally the point of closure, shower? Payment? Good byes come again?

Stay safe.

Syzygies
08-28-19, 04:05
Fellow mongers,

I will be stopping by BKK next week for a short business trip. I plan to visit that Dharin shop with the amateur video lady to see if she is still there, anybody wants to join? Just asking.

I read some reviews and looks like the massage customer service has gone down, can you guys point out to a massage spot that offers great customer service? I'm not referring to the shops dedicated for sex but more to shops with legit massage that lead to sex if you wanted to.

What I mean by customer service? I mean from the point you enter the massage shop (legit massage shop), how you are welcomed? They give you a beer or drink? The process of selection, the ladies attitude smile? Body language? (not fakers). During massage lady rushes you for especial service? Or takes her time to find your erotic spots to make you hard? (I don't think anyone likes to be rushed to sex). Then lets you choose if you want sex or not. And finally the point of closure, shower? Payment? Good byes come again?

Stay safe.It reads like you are one of the most difficult customers ever. I don't know about optional sex places, but any sex shops will be happy to charge up front for everything and if you don't fuck, you waste your money.

Most of us are not too concerned at all about the sex starting immediately, so you maybe misread the general views.

Personally I don't give a shit if not welcomed that well, the decor, etc. , as long as I hit it off with the girl, the rest hardly matters. Only needs one girl in the place that I like to make me visit her.

There has always been significant publicity about "rub and tug" joints, perhaps not so much recently, but completely optional sex joints are not common I think, unless they are officially totally legit, but some girls fucking on the sly. In most places (not totally legit for massage only) if you don't take sex and don't pay for it, you will be wasting the girl's time and energy and she is likely to be not happy.

Percentage of girls are happy to fuck and also happy to give full extended massage services cheaply? I would have thought not many unless they are rather desperate and hence low quality.

BrookeMad
08-28-19, 05:49
As we weren't even 15 minutes into the session, she offered a 2nd shot but since I already visited Akane earlier I knew I wouldn't make it.7th heaven website seems to have recently put up a notice stating that it is strictly a 1 shot service, with no guarantee of a second shot no matter how early you come. Judging by your post, it's probably not changed the service the girls offer (Dew seems to have offered you a second shot) but I wonder. Would you have felt short changed if she hadn't offered you the extra shot?

https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/post/our-services-attention

Edit: ignore, I see this was discussed further down in the forum and is probably aimed at to be aimed at customers who get a full service and then demand a refund. Still curious whether folks would feel short-changed if you came in 10mins and they didn’t offer the second shot.

Franciscass
08-28-19, 06:41
What I mean by customer service? I mean from the point you enter the massage shop (legit massage shop), how you are welcomed? They give you a beer or drink? The process of selection, the ladies attitude smile? Body language? (not fakers). During massage lady rushes you for especial service? Or takes her time to find your erotic spots to make you hard? (I don't think anyone likes to be rushed to sex). Then lets you choose if you want sex or not.I went into the massage shop and was welcomed with a sweet smile by the receptionist. I was given a cold cloth to wipe away the effects of a hot humid day and offered a choice of beers. As I sipped my Chang a lineup of beautiful smiling ladies displaying real genuine attitudes was presented. In the room there was no rushing, she took her time as she expertly explored my body to find my erotic spots. I had never felt so horny and my dick grew to a full 8 inches. She whispered in my ear would you like to fuck me or not. Then just as I was about to tell her there was nothing in the world I would like more I woke up.

Rick Rock
08-28-19, 09:19
Places like doki doki have good looking girls too with GFE and sometimes PSE service but I don't think any do A.Everyone has their opinion I guess. I went into Doki with a friend and he said no thanks and walked out, none of the girls were up to his standard. Funny as I just fucked a real pig over at Snow White a day earlier.


Much closer than Germany and cheaper than Japan you have places like Macau, Vietnam, Philippines.Closer to who / what?

Macau is very expensive these days. Certainly more than Japan. Also quality is WAY down. Struggled to find even Vietnamese sauna ladies without baby damage on my last trip to the saunas. Tokyo soaplands with pretty good looking baby-free ladies are as low as $180. It's $50 in Germany though, unbeaten in the world as far as I have seen in terms of total beauty, quality, service versus price.

Please do fill us in on the places with beautiful fit baby-free PSE providers in Vietnam and Philippines. Vietnam is limited for FS and usual service is starfish if they're attractive. Philippines might be the only country in Asia with fatter and more stretched out hookers than Thailand.

Rick Rock
08-28-19, 09:22
I've never understood the point of fucking a "fat and ugly with a big nasty stretch marked gut and saggy little tits" woman to "bust a nut". How about rubbing one out, saving yourself money and regret, until you find one that merits paying to fuck?.I don't understand people who eat insects, but some do. Who cares? Not me.

If I waited to find a beautiful fit girl without baby damage who does PSE in Bangkok in 2019 I might need to spend a few decades in town.

I wanted to see what was up at Snow White so I went in. The throating was good at least. Don't worry, I still had a nice wank this week and I've got enough money left over to make it to next pay.

Bouvis
08-28-19, 10:21
I still had a nice wank this week and I've got enough money left over to make it to next pay.You wanked in Thailand?

Syzygies
08-29-19, 17:52
Everyone has their opinion I guess. I went into Doki with a friend and he said no thanks and walked out, none of the girls were up to his standard. Funny as I just fucked a real pig over at Snow White a day earlier.
The point about so many MPs is they may have a nice looking girl or two, but not many have several Hot girls. So one can easily have the bad luck to enter when the line up is quite shitty. The better girls can easily be busy. Timing can be critical, as is personal taste. Some guys will fuck anything. Others want a dream girl, given we are paying good money.

Yeh when I went in Doki Doki, the girls looked, plain, older, not very slim, very ordinary. Not doable for me. Same for my last few visits to Snow White and Tulip. Its hard to get the energy, to keep going back. Sad as it may seem, can be better off with a wank than a really uninspiring girl. Maybe can give Doki Doki another try or two if I am not too far away.

Even a club like Addict with a big line up, not many girls were to my taste and I only ever repeated one girl from there. At Club 102 I did not repeat any girls, and even on occasion could not find a girl in about 12 to 15 that appealed. Still I am very fussy about fake looks.

Went into Dozo once (Soi 33). Yes they have some hot girls but only 3 or 4 were available to me (being Farang), and were not the ones I would choose.

Saw a girl sitting outside Orient and she was too naturally pretty to ignore (and slim). Doesn't work there any more but I aim to keep doing her privately. First session was so so but she got better and better (seems to be into fucking old Farangs).

I still like to go past MPS where girls are sitting outside in good lighting, and pic out a stunner (or semi stunner) that just can't be ignored that way. I would say I found well over 50% of my recent MP girls that way, and several got repeated. The times I have selected a girl inside have got quite rare. Did pick out an enthusiastic skinny brown girl in Dream Heaven, cute enough and showing off hot ass under the mini skirt, not that long back. Not really looking for porn stars in my case.

I overall prefer to choose a naked bargirl with a perfect body (and great face) but they are rather expensive these days.

I also seem to do well with girls that have no English or very little yet still like Farangs. Usually these girls are low on business due to lack of communication skills, so they may well try harder to please because they need the repeat business badly.

Most of my girls have had a baby too. I don't mind as long as damage is not so obvious. 19 YOs with fabulous heavy tits but no baby work for me too, as long as still slim and not scared of dick. Where do you find these types in an MP. Very hard but odd one exists usually for a very short time.

Is it weird that I prefer to do my regular girls rather than being forced to take the punt with a new average looker? At least I know what I am getting, and no fears of a carp session. Others want to keep changing girls all the time, but I don't quite get it. I would rather have known superior girls. It is better for my relaxation and enjoyment. I prefer to try new girls only when she is just too hot to be ignored.

Goatscrot
08-29-19, 18:25
You wanked in Thailand?Well, there used to be no need to when you could go out and get laid for 500-1 k baht. At that price, which was 12.50 - 25 usd at the time, you didn't worry much about performance or wasting money on a bad session. Paying 4 plus times as much today, for the same thing or less mind you, one definitely does think about it and many times a wank is a better option.

SexInStl
08-30-19, 11:43
Back in town next week, and from the sound of things -.

I guess I'll have to walk through soi 24, hope I see someone outside in the light that looks attractive (I like younger, spinners. I know, good luck, right?

Or venture inside and hope for an attraction that will lead to PSE, instead of a for sure.

I'm old. I don't need multiple pops, or A+ - just some raw lightly aggressive fucking.

I only go to some of these MS in the hopes of PSE, but it sounds like the weights are up and the service is down really bad. ANY recommendations?

And I've never tried the big places, like Poseidon. Is it worth it? I mean, I can get $200 super hot Asians right here in the US, every day of the week (East coast DC area) and it's not PSE (no BBFS), but the girls are VERY attentive.

AmPervert
08-30-19, 17:12
Touche! LOL I use the new Som's Haven instead.


Well, there used to be no need to when you could go out and get laid for 500-1 k baht. At that price, which was 12.50 - 25 usd at the time, you didn't worry much about performance or wasting money on a bad session. Paying 4 plus times as much today, for the same thing or less mind you, one definitely does think about it and many times a wank is a better option.

Bubba Boy
08-31-19, 11:50
Don't take all the negativity on this board too seriously. There are 500+ massage places along Sukhumvit Rd and 10,000+ young ladies willing to take your cash for a little of their time. You can find whatever you want from those numbers and that is just in 1 area. There are several other areas as well. You just need to put the work in and use a systematic approach to sift the chaff from the rice so to speak. Quality by quantity!

For example I personally segment each area of Suk Road into scouting laps, about 4 laps in total for this area. Each lap takes about 2 hours and is more of an exploratory run, sure if I see a no brainer cutie I will hit it, but if I can get say 5 leads then It is more than worth it too. I tend to go Monday to Wednesday starting at 7 pm and aim to end at 9 pm. On the weekend Fri. Sun Bangkok is very busy and I tend to find the A Team is usually booked, the be team is never that great. The be team is what you will see all day, every day but the A team is definitely there you just have to look.

One of my laps is Soi 22/26. I start at Soi 22 and when I get to the first sub soi off to the left I slowly walk down it both sides. All the girls will come out and try and grab you, just walk slowly taking in the surrounding and scout what is there. I then go back to soi 22 and off to the bar area to the right hand side. It is a bit sad these days but there are lots of ladies there at it only takes 1. I then continue back over to the left side and explore each little sub soi 1 by 1. There is probably a dozen or more places down each sub soi until the action stops about 3 sub sois past the huge Marriot hotel. Probably took me about 30 minutes to explore 8 sub sois but I saw 200 women.

If you find a standout you would grab it. However sometimes you see a cutie that is not available so get her name or you ask the Mamasan "any young 20 to 25 year olds with No Babies" available / not here and get some names for further follow up next time you do your lap.

I will then head over to soi 24. I will thoroughly explore the first sub soi on the left because there are a ton of girls, probably 200 + just in that first sub soi. I avoid addict and the place next door operated by the French dude, service is usually not great and twice the cost. There are 2 or 3 places which are very good in that area, just depends what you want.

Then it is on to 24/1. As you turn into it from Phrom Phong BTS there are 10 or so places all lined up on the right. I hug the right hand side and walk very slowly scanning what is there. These places are like icebergs, only a fraction is outside, there are often many more ladies inside. The tip of the iceberg girls out front will say "massage massage" to you but they are all full service with little massaging going on. I just walk slowly and scan nook and cranny. You quite often spot a hottie in the back ground that is sitting down, coming out of or going into a booking. If she isn't available you can just ask for her name for next time. My current favourite place in Bangkok is in 24/1 - be & be. When you walk past there are maybe 6 ladies out the front but when you go in they come from everywhere. Can be 20/30 women. 2000 be for 60 minutes, 2500 be for 90 minutes. There are 3 very hot young baby free ladies there right now, they are usually booked but if you go in the quieter times Monday to Thursday you might see them available.

Then I continue through 24/1 into 26. You can go to the left and there are aa few places both side but I usually head down into the predominantly Japanese street which is 26/1. Premier101 massage (photos on their site) is located there and is a current fav as well. Premier probably has 100 ladies on their books, maybe 20 working at any time. As you go in you look at the book which lists what they do IE BBBJ, Etc and they have a sticker on them to show if in a booking or not. You can get the full line up or just see a few that you pick out of the book. I usually go through the book, ask the mamasan if they have babies or not and then go from there. They know me so even show me other ladies photos working other days that may suit. Like any Japanese orientated place it is very "clicky" in that some of the girls have a lot of regulars and are always booked. I have seen Japanese guys delivering some hottie back to the club on their scooter, all laughing etc. Something about a lady in street clothes coming back to the club always looks hotter but I digress.

There are a few Japanese only clubs in 26/1 which will completely ignore any non Japanese. I actually did manage to nab a very cute girl from one of these clubs after I wore her down over a few months. I tend to visit premier Monday to Wednesday when there is a better chance of a hottie being available if my regulars aren't. This 1 girl with the most beautiful Chinese like face used to sit outside a particular club as I was leaving Premier at say 9 pm. I smiled at her a few times, but she would always ignore me. It got to the point where her friends would always joke and laugh "here comes your husband" when I pass. When I did stop and chat with them she would always say "no, cannot". When it got to the stage where she would laugh too I pulled out some cash, probably twice what she would normally get and said "lets go" and she finally did. The extra cash was more about her "saving face" for going with a white euro boy than the actual sum. Anyway, we had a bit of fun and she was eager to give me her line "call me, but here cannot" but this is Bangkok and there is always better around for away less than the amount I gave her. Now they all just sit on their phones as I walk by, but it was so worth it.

Anyway, this is just 1 of my laps I do on a regular basis. You can literally find a dozen good compact routes to scout out women. Adding to this there are heaps of contacts you can make via mobile apps, again just need a good system to sift through it all. I call this the "quality by quantity theory". If you see / message enough women, it just takes 1 to rock your boat. I do maybe 1 lap per week now and spend maybe 2 hours on my mobile per week and have a constant solid list of regulars which fit my criteria. Young (20 to 25), fit bodies, no baby damage, cute faces and tend to be perverted.

You always hear the older guys saying it is not as good as the old days. Yes in the old days you could sit in a very concentrated bar area and there would be an endless albeit narrow supply of ladies straight from the farms willing to do a lot of perverted shit for very little money. However Bangkok is a much larger more sophisticated city than it once was but salaries are still very low for young workers. So if you build a system to scan through the tens of 1000's of available young cuties and use your western purchasing power you can have a world of fun for very little money.

Franciscass
08-31-19, 12:31
Don't take all the negativity on this board too seriously. There are 500+ massage places along Sukhumvit Rd and 10,000+ young ladies willing to take your cash for a little of their time. You can find whatever you want from those numbers and that is just in 1 area. There are several other areas as well. You just need to put the work in and use a systematic approach to sift the chaff from the rice so to speak. Quality by quantity!

For example I personally segment each area of Suk Road into scouting laps, about 4 laps in total for this area. Each lap takes about 2 hours and is more of an exploratory run, sure if I see a no brainer cutie I will hit it, but if I can get say 5 leads then It is more than worth it too. I tend to go Monday to Wednesday starting at 7 pm and aim to end at 9 pm. On the weekend Fri. Sun Bangkok is very busy and I tend to find the A Team is usually booked, the be team is never that great. The be team is what you will see all day, every day but the A team is definitely there you just have to look.

One of my laps is Soi 22/26. I start at Soi 22 and when I get to the first sub soi off to the left I slowly walk down it both sides. All the girls will come out and try and grab you, just walk slowly taking in the surrounding and scout what is there. I then go back to soi 22 and off to the bar area to the right hand side. It is a bit sad these days but there are lots of ladies there at it only takes 1. I then continue back over to the left side and explore each little sub soi 1 by 1. There is probably a dozen or more places down each sub soi until the action stops about 3 sub sois past the huge Marriot hotel. Probably took me about 30 minutes to explore 8 sub sois but I saw 200 women.

If you find a standout you would grab it. However sometimes you see a cutie that is not available so get her name or you ask the Mamasan "any young 20 to 25 year olds with No Babies" available / not here and get some names for further follow up next time you do your lap.

I will then head over to soi 24. I will thoroughly explore the first sub soi on the left because there are a ton of girls, probably 200 + just in that first sub soi. I avoid addict and the place next door operated by the French dude, service is usually not great and twice the cost. There are 2 or 3 places which are very good in that area, just depends what you want...What a wonderfully positive informative entertaining well written enjoyable read.

Roaming Viking
08-31-19, 20:31
Hi, I am worried about the news from SW. Anyone been lately? I go whenever I am I town and always enjoy full service. What has changed if anything after the recent alarm about STDs? I sometimes stay on the premises but just as often take my guest back to my hotel for a better and less rushed experience.

Thanks.

Nyezhov
09-01-19, 01:12
Don't take all the negativity on this board too seriously. There are 500+ massage places along Sukhumvit Rd and 10,000+ young ladies willing to take your cash for a little of their time. You can find whatever you want from those numbers and that is just in 1 area. There are several other areas as well. You just need to put the work in and use a systematic approach to sift the chaff from the rice so to speak. Quality by quantity!

For example I personally segment each area of Suk Road into scouting laps, about 4 laps in total for this area. Each lap takes about 2 hours and is more of an exploratory run, sure if I see a no brainer cutie I will hit it, but if I can get say 5 leads then It is more than worth it too. I tend to go Monday to Wednesday starting at 7 pm and aim to end at 9 pm. On the weekend Fri. Sun Bangkok is very busy and I tend to find the A Team is usually booked, the be team is never that great. The be team is what you will see all day, every day but the A team is definitely there you just have to look..Congrats dude, an informative post for newbies without lectures on pussy size, what girls like and don't like, how wonderful it was when you had 3 girlfriends who would DFK you, the names of every mamasan you ever know, the definition of a stunner and all the rest of the BS that has been clogging up this board.

Just what this place needs. Facts. And has someone here long term, thanks for the info on Soi 26. Time for some Hajijmashita, watashi wa yezhov des. Never been down that street as I can recall unless on a Motosais.

Bubba Boy
09-01-19, 04:19
Just a note in my last report, it appears the second letter of the Alphabet gets auto corrected to be. So you can't actually write it, LOL. Be be be be be.

Goatscrot
09-01-19, 06:39
You always hear the older guys saying it is not as good as the old days. Yes in the old days you could sit in a very concentrated bar area and there would be an endless albeit narrow supply of ladies straight from the farms willing to do a lot of perverted shit for very little money. However Bangkok is a much larger more sophisticated city than it once was but salaries are still very low for young workers. So if you build a system to scan through the tens of 1000's of available young cuties and use your western purchasing power you can have a world of fun for very little money.But as you stated, it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort these days to weed through the chaff. And personally, I don't want to spend hours out hunting. I want to go get laid and then get back to other things.

KiJang
09-01-19, 15:46
Walked over to Angel on 24/1 this afternoon, on a whim, with shopping bags in my hand. The lady at the counter asked me if I knew how the system works. Asked her to enlighten me. Said it's 2100 all in including boom boom for 1 hour and you may choose your girl from behind the sliding door. A bit overwhelmed when the door opened. No glass partition. Stood there looking at 20 beauts (no fuglies). Picked a tall fit looking one with see cup implants (tastefully done, realized later that they were implants). She spoke very well, kept a conversation going while doing a thorough professional deed. Always polite and courteous and engaging. Right from the initial. Would you you like to use the restroom before we begin, to the gentle and firm cleanup in the shower, to ensuring my sweaty shirt was hung up to dry, to the slippery massage and sex. All good. The hand technique was amazing and if not careful I would have cum then and there. It was my first gel experience. Well I had one at Dr. BJ / Nuru years back but that was rubbish in comparison. She paid particular attention to the ridge under the glans. Asked her to stop lest I cum. The covered BJ was not great. It was not bad considering she used a bit of teeth to negate the dull rubber feel. The riding sex was excellent. She is very fit and can almost levitate with only the necessary parts in contact. Great for a lazy FK like me. I could not cum though and asked her to finish me off with her gel hand job. She obliged with one combined with a passionate cat bath and bites. Unrushed service. A firm relaxing massage in the thigh area afterwards. Her name is Jade / Jed. I went with out any expectations and Angel delivered 10/10 almost. Will go back.

Goatscrot
09-01-19, 16:08
Walked over to Angel on 24/1 this afternoon, on a whim, with shopping bags in my hand. The lady at the counter asked me if I knew how the system works. Asked her to enlighten me. Said it's 2100 all in including boom boom for 1 hour and you may choose your girl from behind the sliding door. A bit overwhelmed when the door opened. No glass partition. Stood there looking at 20 beauts (no fuglies). Picked a tall fit looking one with see cup implants (tastefully done, realized later that they were implants). She spoke very well, kept a conversation going while doing a thorough professional deed. Always polite and courteous and engaging. Right from the initial. Would you you like to use the restroom before we begin, to the gentle and firm cleanup in the shower, to ensuring my sweaty shirt was hung up to dry, to the slippery massage and sex. All good. The hand technique was amazing and if not careful I would have cum then and there. It was my first gel experience. Well I had one at Dr. BJ / Nuru years back but that was rubbish in comparison. She paid particular attention to the ridge under the glans. Asked her to stop lest I cum. The covered BJ was not great. It was not bad considering she used a bit of teeth to negate the dull rubber feel. The riding sex was excellent. She is very fit and can almost levitate with only the necessary parts in contact. Great for a lazy FK like me. I could not cum though and asked her to finish me off with her gel hand job. She obliged with one combined with a passionate cat bath and bites. Unrushed service. A firm relaxing massage in the thigh area afterwards. Her name is Jade / Jed. I went with out any expectations and Angel delivered 10/10 almost. Will go back.Was the CBJ your idea or did she insist?

Gargano19
09-01-19, 21:20
Was the CBJ your idea or did she insist?I am curious too, as in past I have always got BBBJ.

CzarNicholas
09-02-19, 03:44
Don't take all the negativity on this board too seriously. There are 500+ massage places along Sukhumvit Rd and 10,000+ young ladies willing to take your cash for a little of their time. You can find whatever you want from those numbers and that is just in 1 area. There are several other areas as well. You just need to put the work in and use a systematic approach to sift the chaff from the rice so to speak. Quality by quantity!

For example I personally segment each area of Suk Road into scouting laps, about 4 laps in total for this area. Each lap takes about 2 hours and is more of an exploratory run, sure if I see a no brainer cutie I will hit it, but if I can get say 5 leads then It is more than worth it too. I tend to go Monday to Wednesday starting at 7 pm and aim to end at 9 pm. On the weekend Fri. Sun Bangkok is very busy and I tend to find the A Team is usually booked, the be team is never that great. The be team is what you will see all day, every day but the A team is definitely there you just have to look.

One of my laps is Soi 22/26. I start at Soi 22 and when I get to the first sub soi off to the left I slowly walk down it both sides. All the girls will come out and try and grab you, just walk slowly taking in the surrounding and scout what is there. I then go back to soi 22 and off to the bar area to the right hand side. It is a bit sad these days but there are lots of ladies there at it only takes 1. I then continue back over to the left side and explore each little sub soi 1 by 1. There is probably a dozen or more places down each sub soi until the action stops about 3 sub sois past the huge Marriot hotel. Probably took me about 30 minutes to explore 8 sub sois but I saw 200 women.

If you find a standout you would grab it. However sometimes you see a cutie that is not available so get her name or you ask the Mamasan "any young 20 to 25 year olds with No Babies" available / not here and get some names for further follow up next time you do your lap.

I will then head over to soi 24. I will thoroughly explore the first sub soi on the left because there are a ton of girls, probably 200 + just in that first sub soi. I avoid addict and the place next door operated by the French dude, service is usually not great and twice the cost. There are 2 or 3 places which are very good in that area, just depends what you want.

Then it is on to 24/1. As you turn into it from Phrom Phong BTS there are 10 or so places all lined up on the right. I hug the right hand side and walk very slowly scanning what is there. These places are like icebergs, only a fraction is outside, there are often many more ladies inside. The tip of the iceberg girls out front will say "massage massage" to you but they are all full service with little massaging going on. I just walk slowly and scan nook and cranny. You quite often spot a hottie in the back ground that is sitting down, coming out of or going into a booking. If she isn't available you can just ask for her name for next time. My current favourite place in Bangkok is in 24/1 - be & be. When you walk past there are maybe 6 ladies out the front but when you go in they come from everywhere. Can be 20/30 women. 2000 be for 60 minutes, 2500 be for 90 minutes. There are 3 very hot young baby free ladies there right now, they are usually booked but if you go in the quieter times Monday to Thursday you might see them available.

Then I continue through 24/1 into 26. You can go to the left and there are aa few places both side but I usually head down into the predominantly Japanese street which is 26/1. Premier101 massage (photos on their site) is located there and is a current fav as well. Premier probably has 100 ladies on their books, maybe 20 working at any time. As you go in you look at the book which lists what they do IE BBBJ, Etc and they have a sticker on them to show if in a booking or not. You can get the full line up or just see a few that you pick out of the book. I usually go through the book, ask the mamasan if they have babies or not and then go from there. They know me so even show me other ladies photos working other days that may suit. Like any Japanese orientated place it is very "clicky" in that some of the girls have a lot of regulars and are always booked. I have seen Japanese guys delivering some hottie back to the club on their scooter, all laughing etc. Something about a lady in street clothes coming back to the club always looks hotter but I digress..Can I ask what kind of rates you like to stick with when skipping the bars and massage shops.

Thanks for the report.

Quality by quantity LOL.

I like it.

Its my modus operandi for mongering.

Not a lot of pointing and clicking with me.

I like the hunting for gems as well.

Not much can compete with it if you ask me.

Its so exhilarating when you strike gold.

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).

KiJang
09-02-19, 04:14
Was the CBJ your idea or did she insist?Not my idea. When she slipped on the tight Thai condom I was expecting her to ride and not CBJ.

Bubba Boy
09-02-19, 18:26
Can I ask what kind of rates you like to stick with when skipping the bars and massage shops.

Thanks for the report.

Quality by quantity LOL.

I like it.

Its my modus operandi for mongering.

Not a lot of pointing and clicking with me.

I like the hunting for gems as well.

Not much can compete with it if you ask me.

Its so exhilarating when you strike gold.

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).Yes, we are probably on the same page. You have to put the work in the get the results. Life is a journey not a full stop kind of thing.

Quality by Quantity was a phrase coined by a fellow deviate while living in Brazil. We used to hit Terma 4 x 4 in Rio where there was maybe 200 women. Most were heavily tatted up gansta chics with average looks, but with that amount of women you would always fine a dozen very high quality Bundas (asses) = quality by quantity.

We used to also divide the city into areas too as the action was spread over various clusters through out the city. My favourite was a trip through "the dark side" so named because it was the old port side where there were very few street lights and general decay, plenty of homeless shitting in the street etc however there were a string of barely surviving 2nd or 3rd tier termas where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories.

Price: I am not big on taking girls home so just pay sticker price at the massage places. Usually THB 2000 for 60 minutes or THB 2500 for 90 minutes at say 24/1 type places. When you get into the Japanese dominated places like say Premier it is a little more but the rooms are much nicer. Think THB 3000 3500. The great thing about these places when you work out which are the better ones is that they do ask how was the service after you come out of the room. Repeat business is important to them as opposed to the GoGo scene where the business model is very churn and burn. I just can't do GoGo's anymore as the service generally sux as any price.

BBBJ: I personally can't remember getting a covered blowjob at any of these places. Plenty of girls give rim jobs and other assorted shit too.

CzarNicholas
09-02-19, 19:18
Yes, we are probably on the same page. You have to put the work in the get the results. Life is a journey not a full stop kind of thing.

Quality by Quantity was a phrase coined by a fellow deviate while living in Brazil. We used to hit Terma 4 x 4 in Rio where there was maybe 200 women. Most were heavily tatted up gansta chics with average looks, but with that amount of women you would always fine a dozen very high quality Bundas (asses) = quality by quantity.

We used to also divide the city into areas too as the action was spread over various clusters through out the city. My favourite was a trip through "the dark side" so named because it was the old port side where there were very few street lights and general decay, plenty of homeless shitting in the street etc however there were a string of barely surviving 2nd or 3rd tier termas where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories..Where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories.

Sounds like my fond memories in Tijuana LOL anything and everything 1 mil pesos circa 2018,lots of ass fucking rimming A2m etc, with very very hot 18-19 yo.

I will be in BKK before Jan. 1 sometime?

Ill post a message if you want to meet at soi 22, there's a small esan Thai seafood place, if you like seafood ill buy lunch.

AmPervert
09-02-19, 21:49
Great post Bubba Boy.

Goatscrot
09-03-19, 01:33
Can I ask what kind of rates you like to stick with when skipping the bars and massage shops.

Thanks for the report.

Quality by quantity LOL.

I like it.

Its my modus operandi for mongering.

Not a lot of pointing and clicking with me.

I like the hunting for gems as well.

Not much can compete with it if you ask me.

Its so exhilarating when you strike gold.

Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).I used to love "the hunt. " It was fun and always paid off. The sheer number of p4 p gals in and around sukhumvit 15-20 years ago was staggering. You literally could not go 20 mtrs without hearing "go with you. " When the oilies took off 11 years ago, each PSE shop had at least 3 or 4 lookers who performed. It was a hunt, but a hunt on the sense that you were trying to pick the best out of a pretty good BUNCH. You'd see a great gal and if it was early you'd hesitate because the chances of something better was a good bet. One of the best times was 2am when Nana and Cowboy closed. You could position yourself outside and there would be a flood of gals coming out all looking for a customer. You'd be propositioned by literally hundreds of gals. Every gal that was not barfined at the time was looking to make money. It was epic. This ended about 2005 when the bar owners started policing after work as they were angry about losing barfines. The rapid increase in salaries also had an effect as gals were making more and didn't need to hustle as much. When I arrived in 99 standard salaries were 6, 7, and 8k respectively for bikini, topless, and nude dancing respectively. A gal that didn't go with customers didn't make enough. Now agency gals make at least 30k salary a month not including drinks. So the need to hustle sts and lts is not as great.

Now, for instance, when I go out and walk the oilies, I see lots of dark gals, most of whom are at least 5-10 k overweight or if they are up to snuff looks wise have too many "rules. " I'm certain there are gems out there, but way fewer and harder to find. I've been by be&be recently; several times in fact during weekdays. The lookers must all be busy as the gals I saw needed to hit the gym and stay off the big desserts and out of the sun. I'll give it another look next time I'm on 24/1.

Thanks for the recommendation on Premier. I like places that have cards telling what the gal does and doesn't do. Boss has them as well. That way no surprises for either party.

Agree on the point and click. No interest in the internet scene.

I like a hunt, and don't mind getting up at 5 am to climb on that blind, as long as I know the feeder is going off at 6 am and the deer will be there. Mongering with a challenge? I'm ok as long as the challenge is choosing the best out of a huge pool of good ones. We became very spoiled in SE Asia in the late 90's and early 00's. To many of us the whole point of mongering is that it is not a challenge to find a great looking gal who performs for little money.

Goatscrot
09-03-19, 01:50
Where you would occasionally find a strong 9, and in brasil pretty much all the working girls fuck like porn stars. So when you would find a stunner you could have a lot of no holes barred fun: Very fond memories.

Sounds like my fond memories in Tijuana LOL anything and everything 1 mil pesos circa 2018,lots of ass fucking rimming A2m etc, with very very hot 18-19 yo.

I will be in BKK before Jan. 1 sometime?

Ill post a message if you want to meet at soi 22, there's a small esan Thai seafood place, if you like seafood ill buy lunch.So I take it Rio and Tijuana are no longer as good as they used to be?

Syzygies
09-03-19, 06:19
Mongering without a challenge to me is analogous to jacking off to porn (as long as it doesn't get too difficult LOL).I don't quite get it. The challenge is to find a girl that appeals, enough. If you want a challenge, you go looking for freebies, with the non hookers.

I am not sure how paying hookers can be considered a challenge. Okay Bar girls can knock you back and they do, but Oily MP girls rarely knock back a customer.

So yeh its a challenge for me, but that is in the Thermae. I often can't get the girls I prefer, beaten out by the japanese. So I don't waste my time there any more.

Not all of us enough time available away from the Mrs, to be spending a lot of time hunting. Hence a BJ shop is for desperate days when time is very short.

Goatscrot
09-03-19, 06:34
I don't quite get it. The challenge is to find a girl that appeals, enough. If you want a challenge, you go looking for freebies, with the non hookers.

I am not sure how paying hookers can be considered a challenge. Okay Bar girls can knock you back and they do, but Oily MP girls rarely knock back a customer.

So yeh its a challenge for me, but that is in the Thermae. I often can't get the girls I prefer, beaten out by the japanese. So I don't waste my time there any more.

Not all of us enough time available away from the Mrs, to be spending a lot of time hunting. Hence a BJ shop is for desperate days when time is very short.I concur. When I want to get laid, I don't want to spend hours and hours looking for a gal. I want to go somewhere, pick one, enjoy, and get about my day. I can understand how a tourist, frequent visitor, or even a new resident might enjoy this, but after a time there are other things that one does and getting laid is just a part of what you do.

Syzygies
09-03-19, 06:43
I used to love "the hunt. " It was fun and always paid off. The sheer number of p4 p gals in and around sukhumvit 15-20 years ago was staggering. You literally could not go 20 mtrs without hearing "go with you. " When the oilies took off 11 years ago, each PSE shop had at least 3 or 4 lookers who performed. It was a hunt, but a hunt on the sense that you were trying to pick the best out of a pretty good BUNCH. You'd see a great gal and if it was early you'd hesitate because the chances of something better was a good bet. One of the best times was 2am when Nana and Cowboy closed. You could position yourself outside and there would be a flood of gals coming out all looking for a customer. You'd be propositioned by literally hundreds of gals. Every gal that was not barfined at the time was looking to make money. It was epic. This ended about 2005 when the bar owners started policing after work as they were angry about losing barfines. The rapid increase in salaries also had an effect as gals were making more and didn't need to hustle as much. When I arrived in 99 standard salaries were 6, 7, and 8k respectively for bikini, topless, and nude dancing respectively. A gal that didn't go with customers didn't make enough. Now agency gals make at least 30k salary a month not including drinks. So the need to hustle sts and lts is not as great.

Now, for instance, when I go out and walk the oilies, I see lots of dark gals, most of whom are at least 5-10 k overweight or if they are up to snuff looks wise have too many "rules. " I'm certain there are gems out there, but way fewer and harder to find. I've been by be&be recently; several times in fact during weekdays. The lookers must all be busy as the gals I saw needed to hit the gym and stay off the big desserts and out of the sun. I'll give it another look next time I'm on 24/1.

We became very spoiled in SE Asia in the late 90's and early 00's. To many of us the whole point of mongering is that it is not a challenge to find a great looking gal who performs for little money.I was not aware that Oilies started to take off 11 years ago. Simply because that is when I first tried Tulip and other Oilies not much earlier. In my early times I was mainly a Soapies customer, but they declined badly over the years, for levels of fun and service.

In early 2000's I was coming back to the bar scene after a few years absent, and was difficult because I did not have much clue what the prices should be. The steep rise had already happened some time earlier I think, given that bargirl LT in 1991 was 400 to 500 Baht (plus BF maybe 160 Baht roughly). Right now, prices seem to have doubled again, since early 2000's (or is it tripled? Doubling over say 15 years is not that ridiculous. 4. 7% compound interest. Maybe a little steep. If tripled that is too much.

Prices remained low in Oilies due to the continual drop in quality of the girls, and the continual increase in the competition, any other factors? The Bar scene never had that level of strong competition, and got flooded by the Japanese customers too.

Yeh I hate how bargirls can make reasonable to good money just by just dancing now, and obviously that has added a lot of pressure to selling drinks and drink prices. Even ugly girls seem to think they are worth 3 K for ST now, clearly not value for money. I probably can get a girl for 2. 5 K at Thermae with no BF, but I struggle to get a good one, so its false economy. Better off with a Soi 4 girl way cheaper and some of them performing well for my needs (its a gamble), or a good Oily girl when can find one. Only had two Soi 4 girls worth repeating in recent years (but that is far better than my Thermae success rate).

Syzygies
09-03-19, 06:51
I concur. When I want to get laid, I don't want to spend hours and hours looking for a gal. I want to go somewhere, pick one, enjoy, and get about my day. I can understand how a tourist, frequent visitor, or even a new resident might enjoy this, but after a time there are other things that one does and getting laid is just a part of what you do.Yeh, we do have other things to do, and posting is only another time waster, but I have not even mongered for the last 4 weeks. Many years ago I had no Mrs or GF and had lots of time for surveying (2004), but not now. I certainly don't want to be going to discos at 1 or 2 am and wasting hours in there.

Having a list of regulars, cuts down my search time a lot, the challenge then is patiently waiting for them to be available, but hopefully getting on with other things till that fuck time arrives.

Its raining almost non stop and many provinces are flooded. I am happy enough just to be not underwater. Everywhere is soggy.

EihTooms
09-03-19, 07:05
I don't quite get it. The challenge is to find a girl that appeals, enough. If you want a challenge, you go looking for freebies, with the non hookers.

I am not sure how paying hookers can be considered a challenge. Okay Bar girls can knock you back and they do, but Oily MP girls rarely knock back a customer.

So yeh its a challenge for me, but that is in the Thermae. I often can't get the girls I prefer, beaten out by the japanese. So I don't waste my time there any more.

Not all of us enough time available away from the Mrs, to be spending a lot of time hunting. Hence a BJ shop is for desperate days when time is very short.I agree. I have never sensed that there is the least bit of challenge to get a girl who would easily qualify among the top 5% best lookers, not even in Thermae, frankly. Ok, maybe the 5 best lookers in Thermae out of 200 girls on a busy night might turn away as a 66 year old farang approaches them. Big deal. They would probably be lousy in bed anyway.

No, the ONLY real challenge in the Thai P4P scene is finding or convincing an above average looking girl to engage in BBFS+CIP or, to a lesser degree, BBBJ+CIM. That's it. Ok, Anal is a special problem all its own.

But if you are the kind of customer who is fine with covered FS and never or rarely chooses a CIM finish to an otherwise oral foreplay BBBJ, then the entire country of Thailand's P4P girls, with the possible exception of girls who are into Japanese customers and are at that moment within eye view of a Japanese man, are available to you at their going rate 365/24/7. I suppose even getting a simple oral foreplay BBBJ and/or DFK is a small challenge these days. But one could still count yourself meeting a huge challenge if an above average looking Thai girl agrees to BBFS+CIP and yet refuses to do either of those two things. Otherwise, no challenge, no hunt, no negotiation, no discussion, nothing more is required but to say Hi and decide on how much baht it will cost.

However, the goal of getting well laid and well sucked outside the P4P scene, a "freebie", is a challenge. And I actually group direct P4P girls, dating site girls, girls you meet just cruising around town, etc as similar in that challenge. LOL. With rare exception the dating site girls and the girls you meet around town in restaurants and malls are as likely to be hitting you up for financial aid (because they need it) as a girl working in a go-go bar anyway. The only difference is in how soon and for how much.

Nyezhov
09-03-19, 11:57
So I take it Rio and Tijuana are no longer as good as they used to be?Nothing is as good as it used to be. But that doesn't mean its bad.

Goatscrot
09-03-19, 12:26
I was not aware that Oilies started to take off 11 years ago. Simply because that is when I first tried Tulip and other Oilies not much earlier. In my early times I was mainly a Soapies customer, but they declined badly over the years, for levels of fun and service.

In early 2000's I was coming back to the bar scene after a few years absent, and was difficult because I did not have much clue what the prices should be. The steep rise had already happened some time earlier I think, given that bargirl LT in 1991 was 400 to 500 Baht (plus BF maybe 160 Baht roughly). Right now, prices seem to have doubled again, since early 2000's (or is it tripled? Doubling over say 15 years is not that ridiculous. 4. 7% compound interest. Maybe a little steep. If tripled that is too much.

Prices remained low in Oilies due to the continual drop in quality of the girls, and the continual increase in the competition, any other factors? The Bar scene never had that level of strong competition, and got flooded by the Japanese customers too.

Yeh I hate how bargirls can make reasonable to good money just by just dancing now, and obviously that has added a lot of pressure to selling drinks and drink prices. Even ugly girls seem to think they are worth 3 K for ST now, clearly not value for money. I probably can get a girl for 2. 5 K at Thermae with no BF, but I struggle to get a good one, so its false economy. Better off with a Soi 4 girl way cheaper and some of them performing well for my needs (its a gamble), or a good Oily girl when can find one. Only had two Soi 4 girls worth repeating in recent years (but that is far better than my Thermae success rate).I'm not for certain but I think Baron's opened in 03 or 04 and it was the first of the PSE establishments. Tulip I think was 05.

I agree that Soi 4 is about the best deal running. Some duds out there, but you can week out the chaff with a good interview. Some of the Viets down by the old Raja Hotel entrance are just stunning. Blow the Thai gals away looks wise for sure. They ask for 2 k, but methinks 1. 5 will do.

J A Karl
09-03-19, 13:12
I got information that there are 2 new girls at Cherry massage
Has anyone seen them?

Can't find any new girls on their website

/ Karl.

Kuratla
09-03-19, 14:34
I'm not for certain but I think Baron's opened in 03 or 04 and it was the first of the PSE establishments. Tulip I think was 05.

I agree that Soi 4 is about the best deal running. Some duds out there, but you can week out the chaff with a good interview. Some of the Viets down by the old Raja Hotel entrance are just stunning. Blow the Thai gals away looks wise for sure. They ask for 2 k, but methinks 1. 5 will do.Tulip opened in May of 2005.

Sky Jump
09-03-19, 18:16
7th heaven website seems to have recently put up a notice stating that it is strictly a 1 shot service, with no guarantee of a second shot no matter how early you come. Judging by your post, it's probably not changed the service the girls offer (Dew seems to have offered you a second shot) but I wonder. Would you have felt short changed if she hadn't offered you the extra shot?

https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/post/our-services-attention

Edit: ignore, I see this was discussed further down in the forum and is probably aimed at to be aimed at customers who get a full service and then demand a refund. Still curious whether folks would feel short-changed if you came in 10mins and they didnt offer the second shot.If I am paying for an hour I always bring that up first. I like to finish with the second shot.

Turgid
09-03-19, 18:58
............ We became very spoiled in SE Asia in the late 90's and early 00's. To many of us the whole point of mongering is that it is not a challenge to find a great looking gal who performs for little money.The major change came with the influx of Korean, Japanese and Chinese mongers. The girls became exposed to mongers willing to pay handsomely without long hard banging, demands for BBFS and CIM. They now get the hottest girls.

Crocodilexp
09-04-19, 01:39
The major change came with the influx of Korean, Japanese and Chinese mongers. The girls became exposed to mongers willing to pay handsomely without long hard banging, demands for BBFS and CIM. They now get the hottest girls.Not sure you're barking up the right tree, the influx of other mongers only has marginal influence.

The main issue is fewer girls available, mostly due to demographics, and also rising incomes. Thailand had 5. 6 children per woman in 1970 (that cohort was 30 back in 2000), 3. 4 in 1980 (still women around in 2010), and just 1. 6 in 2000 (that's why we're seeing plenty of 40-50 year old hookers still on the game). On the income side, back in the early 2000's, many office girls (let alone lower income) could hardly make ends meet, and thus went to Thermae occasionally. These days, a fresh university graduate can hit 20 k baht right away, and goes up from there, no need to hook part-time.

The supply of working girls has dried up considerably, that's why we're seeing are mostly dregs for higher prices. Hottest girls are sure not working in the nightlife industry anymore, and neither are many average looking ones (I mean average as in middle-of-the-pack looks for 20-40 age group, not a euphemism for "ugly"). The demand has changed perhaps too, but if supply were as before, we'd surely be seeing many pretty girls and part-time girls around despite increased demand, although at a higher price point.

Crocodilexp
09-04-19, 02:00
I used to love "the hunt. " It was fun and always paid off. The sheer number of p4 p gals in and around sukhumvit 15-20 years ago was staggering. You literally could not go 20 mtrs without hearing "go with you." When the oilies took off 11 years ago, each PSE shop had at least 3 or 4 lookers who performed. It was a hunt, but a hunt on the sense that you were trying to pick the best out of a pretty good BUNCH. You'd see a great gal and if it was early you'd hesitate because the chances of something better was a good bet. Perfectly said. I actually love the hunt, being surrounded by plenty of available women, actual sex is just the cherry on top.

I can still feel the excitement of the hunt in a few other places, but in Bangkok or Pattaya it's not rewarding or pleasant anymore. Mongering in Thailand used to be looking for diamonds in a pile of rocks (fine rocks, actually), but now it's more like trying to find a peanut in a turd. The quantity of turd doesn't make the hunt much more pleasant.

For me, the joy was in choosing among the abundance of decent girls at a reasonable price, not looking for one who's maybe acceptable looking among a thinning selection of hags, for relatively serious cash that is usually better spent elsewhere, especially considering declining service standards.

Nyezhov
09-04-19, 03:25
I concur. When I want to get laid, I don't want to spend hours and hours looking for a gal. I want to go somewhere, pick one, enjoy, and get about my day. I can understand how a tourist, frequent visitor, or even a new resident might enjoy this, but after a time there are other things that one does and getting laid is just a part of what you do.Well said.

Goatscrot
09-04-19, 05:23
Not sure you're barking up the right tree, the influx of other mongers only has marginal influence.

The main issue is fewer girls available, mostly due to demographics, and also rising incomes. Thailand had 5. 6 children per woman in 1970 (that cohort was 30 back in 2000), 3. 4 in 1980 (still women around in 2010), and just 1. 6 in 2000 (that's why we're seeing plenty of 40-50 year old hookers still on the game). On the income side, back in the early 2000's, many office girls (let alone lower income) could hardly make ends meet, and thus went to Thermae occasionally. These days, a fresh university graduate can hit 20 k baht right away, and goes up from there, no need to hook part-time.

The supply of working girls has dried up considerably, that's why we're seeing are mostly dregs for higher prices. Hottest girls are sure not working in the nightlife industry anymore, and neither are many average looking ones (I mean average as in middle-of-the-pack looks for 20-40 age group, not a euphemism for "ugly"). The demand has changed perhaps too, but if supply were as before, we'd surely be seeing many pretty girls and part-time girls around despite increased demand, although at a higher price point.I'd say both you and Turgid are correct. I do agree with you; economic and demographic factors are the main issues, however the influx of Asian punters who are less demanding performance wise and punters who tend to have less experience overall with women effects things as well. Many times while out, especially in Pattaya, you see groups of guys who act like they are at a middle school dance, don't really know how to behave in a club, and seem like they have never even kissed a girl. Naive is not a strong enough word. For most of the old guard punters and regulars, Thailand was not our first rodeo. Far from it. We were well versed before we came here.

TConor
09-05-19, 01:50
One is Vill (Will) from SW.


I got information that there are 2 new girls at Cherry massage
Has anyone seen them?

Can't find any new girls on their website

/ Karl.

Mamag
09-05-19, 12:00
I got information that there are 2 new girls at Cherry massage
Has anyone seen them?

Can't find any new girls on their website

/ Karl.Moya is still on their website.

But she left Cherry and works now at Mango massage.

CzarNicholas
09-05-19, 18:21
So I take it Rio and Tijuana are no longer as good as they used to be?But stopped going to Tijuana for a variety of reasons.

Will I ever return? Maybe? But doubtful.

J A Karl
09-06-19, 04:51
Moya is still on their website.

But she left Cherry and works now at Mango massage.Good to know, had good experience with her in the past.

Thank you.

/ Karl.

Nedjo
09-06-19, 06:03
Anyone have any info on.

1) puru puru. On the same street as mango /102/ addicts. Seems to have a number of cute girls.

2) daisy dream. Decor looks interesting, tempted to swing by because of it.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.I tried Daisy Dream Massage Club soi 33 2 weeks ago. I was also interested in their decoration and rooms on their website.

It was a very nice experience. Lobby looks like an old Chinese brothel mixed with futuristic red neon lights. So much better than the average massage place in Bangkok.

I was expecting higher prices too but mamasan showed me the menu (on ipad) and the prices are similar to all those crappy massage places next door.

About 15-20 girls lined up in front of me. Half of them at least were real stunners.

I picked Palm and a jacuzzi room. I paid 3,000 baht but I am not sure if there was a special discount on that day or not.

The jacuzzi room is simply awesome. Palm gave me a great time from shower to bed and from bed to jacuzzi and from jacuzzi to bed again.

I am back in Europe but planning to go back there on my next visit.

Enjoy guys.

Syzygies
09-06-19, 10:12
Moya is still on their website.

But she left Cherry and works now at Mango massage.I looked at pics and Moya does not appeal. Not my type at all.

Does any one know if these girls could be rated as slimmish and pretty: Bee, Apple, Jenny and Sara?

Any opinions would be welcome if guys tried them. I can do a search shortly I guess.
Comments on surgeries also welcome. Looks like Jenny and Sara may have both nose and tit jobs.
I can tolerate subtle surgeries sometimes, but not coconut shell like tits.

I have not visited for a while, but think I should check soon. Photos could mislead me.
I will certainly report if I try any girls in next weeks (my likely window).

I don't see that SW web site really has much for pretty girls even though photos are not that realistic.

I know Prae and Amm at Mango well enough, but was not in a big hurry to see them again. Not really my spec.

For a while I got distracted by a tall slim Orient girl (zero English) that was way prettier than any Mango girl (and a good fuck for me), but she left.

Keep and use her contact details.

Goatscrot
09-06-19, 10:32
I looked at pics and Moya does not appeal. Not my type at all.

Does any one know if these girls could be rated as slimmish and pretty: Bee, Apple, Jenny and Sara?

Any opinions would be welcome if guys tried them. I can do a search shortly I guess.
Comments on surgeries also welcome. Looks like Jenny and Sara may have both nose and tit jobs.
I can tolerate subtle surgeries sometimes, but not coconut shell like tits.

I have not visited for a while, but think I should check soon. Photos could mislead me.
I will certainly report if I try any girls in next weeks (my likely window).

I don't see that SW web site really has much for pretty girls even though photos are not that realistic.

I know Prae and Amm at Mango well enough, but was not in a big hurry to see them again. Not really my spec.

For a while I got distracted by a tall slim Orient girl (zero English) that was way prettier than any Mango girl (and a good fuck for me), but she left.

Keep and use her contact details.Mango's been off my list since adding the 500 Baht "butt penalty. " Also, I have not read many glowing reviews recently. Miss the days when all the PSEs were full on with every gal. Some cute gals in the pics, but one wonders how they will perform.

Syzygies
09-07-19, 13:03
Mango's been off my list since adding the 500 Baht "butt penalty. " Also, I have not read many glowing reviews recently. Miss the days when all the PSEs were full on with every gal. Some cute gals in the pics, but one wonders how they will perform.I don't care about the butt penalty and whether ass is available. Very few of my regular girls were really into ass fucking. One or two were okay On occasion if having a period or pussy hurting, but not one claimed to actually like it. So not many were in pornstar category at all.

June (ex SW and Bongkot) was willing to try after knowing her a very long time, even suggested it just once, but I don't think she really liked it.

All I need is fun enthusiastic pretty slim girls. Have repeated a few different Mango girls over the years. Way more than I ever did at SW. Just different requirements. Naturally I can't pick a Mango girl is she is not above average looks though. Which shop a girl works in, is actually not very relevant to me. Hence I tried Thonglor, Bongkot, Boss, Can Cam, Orient, Pink, EZ, Yoremichi, Dream heaven, New Massage, Geisha, Cherry, even Annies, etc. Purely due to specific girls seen.

If I get a helpful answer to my question, that will be really overwhelming. I rarely get any detailed useful info coming back from a question. Maybe no one left on the forum has been in there and tried any of those girls? and of course some posters are not into recommending any girls, scared of psychos visiting them.

Francesco24
09-07-19, 15:47
I looked at pics and Moya does not appeal. Not my type at all.

Does any one know if these girls could be rated as slimmish and pretty: Bee, Apple, Jenny and Sara?

Any opinions would be welcome if guys tried them. I can do a search shortly I guess.
Comments on surgeries also welcome. Looks like Jenny and Sara may have both nose and tit jobs.
I can tolerate subtle surgeries sometimes, but not coconut shell like tits.

I have not visited for a while, but think I should check soon. Photos could mislead me.
I will certainly report if I try any girls in next weeks (my likely window).

I don't see that SW web site really has much for pretty girls even though photos are not that realistic.

I know Prae and Amm at Mango well enough, but was not in a big hurry to see them again. Not really my spec.

For a while I got distracted by a tall slim Orient girl (zero English) that was way prettier than any Mango girl (and a good fuck for me), but she left.

Keep and use her contact details.I tried Apple last month or so. Average service and she looks worse in real than pictures. Many wouldn't call her fat I think, but for my standard she is 100% fat (or course not at the level of some of the girls working at Cherry-.

Tti123
09-07-19, 16:19
I tried Daisy Dream Massage Club soi 33 2 weeks ago. I was also interested in their decoration and rooms on their website.

It was a very nice experience. Lobby looks like an old Chinese brothel mixed with futuristic red neon lights. So much better than the average massage place in Bangkok.

I was expecting higher prices too but mamasan showed me the menu (on ipad) and the prices are similar to all those crappy massage places next door.

About 15-20 girls lined up in front of me. Half of them at least were real stunners.

I picked Palm and a jacuzzi room. I paid 3,000 baht but I am not sure if there was a special discount on that day or not.

The jacuzzi room is simply awesome. Palm gave me a great time from shower to bed and from bed to jacuzzi and from jacuzzi to bed again.

I am back in Europe but planning to go back there on my next visit.

Enjoy guys.They had a promo for the first month, 500 bhat off VIP room booking. Was told about it on line but didn't get a chance to make it over to catch this discount.

Franciscass
09-07-19, 18:17
They had a promo for the first month, 500 bhat off VIP room booking. Was told about it on line but didn't get a chance to make it over to catch this discount.My sort of buzz but why no prices or pics even if faces are hidden on their website. Looks like as least as expensive as Doki but with superior surroundings. No matter will pop by next week for a look see.

Whoreman
09-07-19, 22:25
My sort of buzz but why no prices or pics even if faces are hidden on their website. Looks like as least as expensive as Doki but with superior surroundings. No matter will pop by next week for a look see.Interesting that the first review of this place was from a first time poster and reads like someone trying to promote it.

Canyon
09-07-19, 23:57
I've been coming to BKK for 25 years now, and during that time, mongers were always saying, "It's not like the good old days. " For me, 95% of the girls have never appealed to me, but I've always been able to find the top 5% who have appealed to me. It does take time to find them, and you have to have game, I. E. Be reasonably good-looking, in good physical shape and have a nice personality. I'll be returning to Bangkok next week, so I'll soon know if you can still find some good ones. I'll post in two weeks and let you know what I found. By the way, send me a personal e-mail if you have any recommendations. All are appreciated and I will reciprocate if I find a good one.

Canyon.

Nedjo
09-08-19, 01:51
Interesting that the first review of this place was from a first time poster and reads like someone trying to promote it.I have been a very consistent reader of internationalsexguide for the past 25 years.

I have traveled to the 5 continents solo or with friends and always relied on ISG to find and validate the best places around to enjoy myself.

LOS Daneses in Sevilla, Artemis in Berlin, The Pub in Agadir, Eden Club in Bangkok are some of the iconic places I found using ISG.

After visiting Daisy Dream and because I am French and the Manager there is also French and was friendly to me I decided to finally create my account and write something about them!

Cheers!

EihTooms
09-08-19, 04:01
I've been coming to BKK for 25 years now, and during that time, mongers were always saying, "It's not like the good old days. " For me, 95% of the girls have never appealed to me, but I've always been able to find the top 5% who have appealed to me. It does take time to find them, and you have to have game, I. E. Be reasonably good-looking, in good physical shape and have a nice personality. I'll be returning to Bangkok next week, so I'll soon know if you can still find some good ones. I'll post in two weeks and let you know what I found. By the way, send me a personal e-mail if you have any recommendations. All are appreciated and I will reciprocate if I find a good one.

Canyon.Are you talking about the top 5% of girls in Bkk Massage Parlors? Because that is what this thread is generally about, although no big deal if we stray from that a bit.

However, if you meant the top 5% of P4P Bkk girls in general, as in the go-go bars, Thermae, clubs, freelancers and such, you might want to repost this post and your follow up reports in the Bangkok Reports thread.

And if that is what you meant, I don't know about the "game" aspect of it mattering very much. I usually see the top 5% girls (lookers, that is) walking out of the bars or down the sois with some pretty old and/or out of shape dudes, less often with the better looking guys in the viscinity or venue. Maybe their personalites are much more dazzling or sweet and kind than their generally dour demeanor suggests from across the room. Possible.

Of course, if you're talking about getting BBFS+CIP, BBBJ+CIM and possibly Anal with those top 5% girls at or near their usual going rate, then, imo, that is the only goal that really does require the kind of "game" you mentioned. Naturally, there is no way for me to know if many of those old and/or out of shape dudes are getting that kind of deal. Maybe they are.

Franciscass
09-08-19, 04:05
Interesting that the first review of this place was from a first time poster and reads like someone trying to promote it.Place opens, first time poster, glowing review, really but hey it works, here we are chatting.

Kickoffs
09-08-19, 07:50
Not sure you're barking up the right tree, the influx of other mongers only has marginal influence.

The main issue is fewer girls available, mostly due to demographics, and also rising incomes. Thailand had 5. 6 children per woman in 1970 (that cohort was 30 back in 2000), 3. 4 in 1980 (still women around in 2010), and just 1. 6 in 2000 (that's why we're seeing plenty of 40-50 year old hookers still on the game). On the income side, back in the early 2000's, many office girls (let alone lower income) could hardly make ends meet, and thus went to Thermae occasionally. These days, a fresh university graduate can hit 20 k baht right away, and goes up from there, no need to hook part-time.Agree with most of this. While there are still hot TGs out there, they're not as plentiful as before. The hot ones that are out there get plucked early.

Syzygies
09-08-19, 09:53
I tried Apple last month or so. Average service and she looks worse in real than pictures. Many wouldn't call her fat I think, but for my standard she is 100% fat (or course not at the level of some of the girls working at Cherry-.If you call her fat, that is enough for me. I like really trim but with curves and good gap between the thighs. Some of my favourite girls are taller than average and yet still well under 50 Kg. Low 40's girls are common for me.

Once a girls thighs bang together, that is what I call fat, at least my primary measure. Waist measure (circumference) should be 60 to 70% (max) of the thigh measure to make curvy. Some girls can be quite slim yet still have the curves. Flat or saggy ass does not work for me either. Peachy ass cheeks for me.

Now that I look at the Apple pics again, I can see face is heavily photo shopped and can see waist is too big. Some of the pics were hiding her big waist and thighs. Ha ha. Bee is supposed to be skinny, but with photo shopping maybe much older than pics. Jenny and Sara may be possibles for me but depends how obvious the surgeries are. If overdone, will get ruled out. Again pics may be too good for the real girls. It is not easy to find natural pretty ones.

I control what I eat and drink, to control my weight. I don't see why young Thai girls can't do that too. My Thai step daughter however eats far too much junk (I don't eat the same stuff) so no surprise is well over weight at age 18. Much heavier than her mum who is still hot at nearly 40. Thais tease me over eating ice-cream in limited quantities yet I eat far less junk carbs than them. I am more than 10 kg less than about 6 to 8 years ago. Under control.

Young girls can be ignorant and not knowing that their slurpy, ice coffee, or thick shake (or even juice) with loads of sugar is the worst possible thing for their figure, then they have all those junk foods in cellophane packets as well.

The Mrs. Favourite snack food is sunflower seeds in a packet from Seven shop. Not sure if that can be fattening or not. Beer is probably the most fattening thing for her, so puts on more weight in summer with more beer and less activity, but seems to have lost it again now.

Is there any correlation between women getting fatter and being horny? I hope not. That would be worrying.

Whoreman
09-08-19, 22:47
I have been a very consistent reader of internationalsexguide for the past 25 years.

I have traveled to the 5 continents solo or with friends and always relied on ISG to find and validate the best places around to enjoy myself.

LOS Daneses in Sevilla, Artemis in Berlin, The Pub in Agadir, Eden Club in Bangkok are some of the iconic places I found using ISG.

After visiting Daisy Dream and because I am French and the Manager there is also French and was friendly to me I decided to finally create my account and write something about them!

Cheers!Having relied on ISG for 25 years to help you find the best places in all 5 continents, wouldn't it have been courteous to join earlier and make a contribution to help others?

Goatscrot
09-09-19, 02:00
One is Vill (Will) from SW.Will and Sprite are both at Cherry now.

Franciscass
09-09-19, 04:13
Eden Club in Bangkok are some of the iconic places I found using ISG.

After visiting Daisy Dream and because I am French and the Manager there is also French and was friendly to me I decided to finally create my account and write something about them!

Cheers!Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the owner of Eden club French and friendly. No matter welcome to the community and thanks for letting us know about the new shop.

Syzygies
09-09-19, 06:04
Will and Sprite are both at Cherry now.Funny name. Will may well be short for Wi-lai (or Wilaiporn) very common Thai names, but most Thais saying "Will" will sound like Win or possibly rarely Wiw. I know a Laos girl with nickname Wi (short vowel not Wee) (no L on the end at all. Thai words never end in L sound). Never met a Thai that could pronounce Sprite either (more like Sa-pie or Sa-pite). I often can't be sure when a girl is referring to Spy or Sprite as a drink.

Paolo99
09-09-19, 07:29
After visiting Daisy Dream and because I am French and the Manager there is also French and was friendly to me I decided to finally create my account and write something about them!

Cheers!French manager that opens a new oily in the Japanese area of BKK, the only focus from that shop seems to be the decor, and comes to make the promotion on this board.

We've seen it already and it didn't end very well as almost nobody talks anymore about the other shop of your French manager friend except to say that prices are higher than other shops and girls are giving a questionable service.

Do us a favor, tell your friend, "the French manager", to focus on the quality of the girls and on the level of service instead of the decor.

We don't care about the decor as long as it is clean and safe, the most important for us is good looking girls and (or) good service provided in the room.

If he can do something about that, his place will be successful, if the only incentive there is the decor, it will not last long.

Thank you Nedjo, the friend of "The French manager".

Paolo99
09-09-19, 07:40
Never met a Thai that could pronounce Sprite either (more like Sa-pie or Sa-pite). I often can't be sure when a girl is referring to Spy or Sprite as a drink.There was a discussion like this a few months back.

Almost everybody was referring to that girl as Spy until the moment we realized that in fact her name is Sprite.

Stykler
09-09-19, 07:55
Having relied on ISG for 25 years to help you find the best places in all 5 continents, wouldn't it have been courteous to join earlier and make a contribution to help others?That is a very good point.

Nedjo
09-09-19, 12:20
Having relied on ISG for 25 years to help you find the best places in all 5 continents, wouldn't it have been courteous to join earlier and make a contribution to help others?I guess there are so many others like me who are making the most of ISG and WSG and are just too lazy to post anything but you are totally right and I will in the future! My next trip will be Thailand again in December. Will try to be an active user.

Thank you all for the time spent here and all the good and bad reviews. First time I used ISG, I think, is not 25 yrs ago but 15. We were 12 young men at a bachelor party struggling to find a good place in Berlin. We ended our night at Artemis after I spent 100+ euros surfing the internet with a very slow connection to finally find this place. Fantastic memory for all of us (but not for the bride LOL)! I visited again about 6 months ago and was very disappointed with the line up.

Have a good week all!

Nedjo
09-09-19, 19:16
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the owner of Eden club French and friendly. No matter welcome to the community and thanks for letting us know about the new shop.Thank you Franciscass. You are absolutely right. The manager at Eden Club when I went there 2 or 3 years ago was French and friendly and funny. And a look-alike of Antonio Banderas. Not sure if he is still there. I guess everyone knows about the yellow line story at Eden. You don't know Bangkok until you try Eden Club. Pure PSE.

I am a new member so it takes time before my posts get visible on the forum. I am French and yes I like to try places owned by French (and all the others too). I guess there is nothing wrong with that or will I be banned or found guilty because I am French? I am referring to Paolo's post.

MichaelSamuel
09-09-19, 20:42
If you call her fat, that is enough for me. I like really trim but with curves and good gap between the thighs. Some of my favourite girls are taller than average and yet still well under 50 Kg. Low 40's girls are common for me.

Once a girls thighs bang together, that is what I call fat, at least my primary measure. Waist measure (circumference) should be 60 to 70% (max) of the thigh measure to make curvy. Some girls can be quite slim yet still have the curves. Flat or saggy ass does not work for me either. Peachy ass cheeks for me.

Here here! These are asian girls, and thai girls at that. If there is no thigh gap then they are fat. Doesn't mean that a thai girl a little fat can't be beutiful and a good lay, but if there is no thigh gap than she is beyond the center of the bell curve. Or at least where the bell curve used to be before 7-11 and mcdonalds. Checking the thigh gap is actually one of my quick ways to evaluate in shop or gogo. Sure if given time will look deeper, but it's a quick way to separate out the slim girls and then refine the search from there.

Whoreman
09-09-19, 21:03
Will and Sprite are both at Cherry now.Thanks for the info. Sprite is my favourite girl at the moment. Any idea why she left Snow White? She's on the Cherry website under the name Spisy.

Paolo99
09-10-19, 08:39
I am French and yes I like to try places owned by French (and all the others too). I guess there is nothing wrong with that or will I be banned or found guilty because I am French? I am referring to Paolo's post.There's no French bashing or guilty of any kind over here (unlike the Indian bashing that we've seen recently), but something tells me that our messages might directly go through the owner or manager of that shop, so that was the purpose of my post.

Anyway I'm glad we have you on this board and thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Syzygies
09-10-19, 14:31
Here here! These are asian girls, and thai girls at that. If there is no thigh gap then they are fat. Doesn't mean that a thai girl a little fat can't be beutiful and a good lay, but if there is no thigh gap than she is beyond the center of the bell curve. Or at least where the bell curve used to be before 7-11 and mcdonalds. Checking the thigh gap is actually one of my quick ways to evaluate in shop or gogo. Sure if given time will look deeper, but it's a quick way to separate out the slim girls and then refine the search from there.Ha ha. You read like "tongue in cheek" here, but I am quite serious. A buddy introduced me to his opinion that waist should be between 60% to 70% of thigh measurement, when I was about 20 YO. I thought about somewhat and had to agree.

Years later another buddy mentioned how he liked girls with "gap", and also girls with swollen nipples. If he reads this, he could guess who I am. Again I agree with the gap, and I am not averse to swollen nipples (but not essential for me). It is a lot easier to evaluate girls' gap when they dance on stage nude, or with G-string and especially easier from the back. A bit of gap helps frame the ass and make the girl more sexy looking for me. Pudgy thighs and saggy ass are not so sexy for me. Hence it becomes a major criteria, whether conscious or not at the time. There are the others: pretty pussy helps, natural soft tits but not sag bags helps. Small face and small upturned nose work for me too. Double chins not good.

Plenty of guys out there are into voluptuous I know. I have a buddy who likes girls bigger, so I would call them fat. He refers to some of my girls as "a bag of bones" ha ha. The good thing is very few girls look great to both of us. They would have to be slimmish but with big tits. Perhaps we would both like porn star Anissa Kate, well built but not fat. Skin brown. Who cares? Maybe also Jade Kush even Sharon Lee. Very well built but not fat. I would certainly not knock anyone like that back. Don't often get such a great body, but I had the odd Thai girl not too far away from that standard.

Would I fuck one fabulous girl or 3 ugly girls, I would take the stunning one. For me quality is more important than quantity. If she was crappy on the bed, then simple, no repeat. Looks is not everything. Sometimes we get lucky and a hot girl is worth repeating many times, and I have, until they disappear all too soon.

Sunlover2
09-11-19, 14:25
Checking the thigh gap is actually one of my quick ways to evaluate in shop or gogo. Sure if given time will look deeper, but it's a quick way to separate out the slim girls and then refine the search from there.My go to quick check for identifying the slimmest ladies in a group is to compare their arms, with the skinny arm ladies getting first consideration.

SL.

Nedjo
09-11-19, 17:15
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Sinofaguo
09-11-19, 23:46
Anyway I'm glad we have you on this board and thanks for sharing your experience with us.Yes I believe we are much better off welcoming people who are actually posting field reports even if there is a risk they could be shop owner related. Worse case scenario if the place isn't good, a couple of us will report so.

This board is mostly suffering from lack of new field reports. So many people asking for help while never contributing before or after getting it.

There are tons of shops in Bangkok aside from Tulip, SW, Cherry and Mango. As I and others already reported here I had nice sessions in Soi 22 before (lately not much to report about) and Doki Doki which got artificially promoted by the owner or related customers with low post count at first but ended up being a great place with many reports from old time legit posters, myself included. Haven't seen Kiss in a long time but had great sessions with Alice and Kyoko recently both having their own style and approach. In the end the place will only have good business if they provide a good mix of attitude and looks. While Doki doesn't have models, the girls are already ok looking compared to the above shops and the service is just awesome. Thats why they end up getting away with prices much higher than the typical soapy.

After that its all a matter of taste, some people's goal is to have the kinkiest experience at the cheapest price even if it means doing it with a 40 years old whom has been taken in all her holes for 20 years by 5 customers a day.
Others are looking for a good service japanese style but not nececerly anything "dirty".
Others can be very peaky about looks and less concerned about service.
The more reports we get lets people from different styles to find what they want or to change their habits/try new things from time to time.

Mr Benn
09-12-19, 03:16
I visited Mango for the first time in ages and took Prae for 90 minutes. Having lost weight recently, she looks just as good as her pictures. The rooms also look better than before.

Slim, attractive girls who can perform are scarce these days and tend to move on the week after you find them so I have resorted to repeating ageing MILFs of stout build who, in civilian life, I honestly wouldn't do for free. Dim lighting and focusing the attention on a single attractive feature, such as nice hair, a round bum or soft skin, seems to do the trick.

Prae, on the other hand, is pretty enough to do with the lights on. In her mid thirties and with no stretch-marks, her figure is trim and shapely. She has perfect breasts. The tramp stamp on her lower back is a nice detail. She is also very friendly.

She provided GFE in a gentle, experienced fashion. She tired of intercourse quickly, however, so the last 30 minutes of the session defaulted to a light massage.

I enjoyed my session with Prae but, if I take her again, I will cut the time to 60 minutes. Alternatively, she is said to hold her end up well when paired with a reliable old banger.

My search for a unicorn continues.

Syzygies
09-12-19, 05:02
I am still in contact with the manager of Daisy Dream using their official LINE account and I already informed him about this particular thread because it could be a potential threat for his business. I hope I did not cause any damage.

Cheers.Not sure what you mean by "threat for his business". Even if someone posts a bad report or two, we take it with a grain of salt.

Not all customers read this forum. There are other crappy forums too, and those that don't read forums.

When a guy posts how bad he found the girl, often not even naming her, and saying he will never go back to the shop, makes me laugh somewhat.

One could have a bad experience anywhere. For many of us it is a lot more about finding specific girls we like, than being about the shop.

Convenient shop location can help, and reasonably tolerable rooms. Bed comfort, aircon, etc.

Sometimes this forum helps a shop a lot. Look at the excessive publicity that Doki Doki received recently. Also in the past Tulip, Annies, Snow White etc.

I think only a large number of reports from many different posters, about a shop really has a large effect, whether positive or negative.

In its hey day, Tulip had lots of reports from lots of posters, and mostly positive. So became very popular on this forum at least.

Guys posting what looks like advertising for a shop, are not really taken too seriously.

Most of us don't care who the manager of a shop is and nationality unless acts like a dickhead, or can't communicate in English or Thai. I prefer dealing with female Thai receptionists myself, but not a big deal when I am wanting some specific girl. Japanese shops with Japanese manager can make things a little difficult. However I used to put up with such a weirdo manager at Can Cam if I wanted a girl.

I only hate receptionists that insist on speaking English to me badly enough that leads to misunderstandings too much. So I prefer to speak Thai in most shops. I understand good Thai better than bad English. Ha ha.

If these new shops have some really top girls for looks and service, they will start to do well automatically, regardless of some non favourable reports. I am always willing to go have a look at least. I had a look in Doki Doki but was underwhelmed to say the least by standard of look and lack of skinny girls (for my taste). I assume bad timing, line-up was quite small at the time, so can try again.

The biggest problem these days is lack of reports about specific named girls, which greatly devalues the usefulness of the forum. If we see that a girl has performed great for at least someone, it can give us that extra encouragement to try her, if she appeals anyway. I am still willing to promote specific girls, not so much shops (other than indirectly), however it is somewhat infrequent I try any new girls these days.

Specific girl reports for new shops could potentially help a lot, especially if indicate the style of operation for the specific girls, any special talents, how she looks when clothes come off.

Any publicity is better than none. Guys like me are willing to go have a look, but only if we are aware. Bangkok may well have 10 thousand massage shops. We can't look in every one of them, and some locations are just not seen as desirable. Has to have something to make us look in specific shops, even if it just being in the right area next to other MPs, or possibility they might have superior girls. Excessively pretty girls sitting outside in daylight is a known way to make me suddenly pay attention.

Club 102 has flash dcor. I don't give a shit. Daisy Dream could easily fail if owner fails to attract some pretty girls that give really good service, and are at least reasonable value for money. Investment in the artistic things could be misplaced unless it attracts the right girls. The right girls will attract the customers. The shop merely needs to be acceptable rather than fancy. Superior girls? Yes please.

Did anyone try and report on a girl in any newer shops like Daisy Dream ( or Puru P) as yet? Perhaps I missed it.

Franciscass
09-12-19, 05:44
Nedjo,

I wouldn't worry about the shop being affected by anything posted so far. As Oscar Wilde said the only thing worse that being talked about is not being talked about.

Over time if the owner consistently delivers on service they will be successful.

Price wise they are operating at the higher end of the market competing with Doki Doki and Mitu and but it would appear there is an increasing demand for superior surroundings coupled a superior experience.

I know myself that being known to the management can get you above average attention but as the field reports come in a more comprehensive picture will emerge and we will know whether your review reflects what can be expected.

Hopefully so.

Turgid
09-12-19, 17:30
.............Slim, attractive girls who can perform are scarce these days .............This is a worldwide trend. Working girls are getting fatter and fatter in all countries of the world. It has occurred to me that guys like myself who like slim intimate companions are having a harder and harder time at it. However, what about guys who like a lot of meat on the bones of their paramours? They're having a field day.

Goatscrot
09-12-19, 17:52
This is a worldwide trend. Working girls are getting fatter and fatter in all countries of the world. It has occurred to me that guys like myself who like slim intimate companions are having a harder and harder time at it. However, what about guys who like a lot of meat on the bones of their paramours? They're having a field day.A trend that is not just seen with working girls. The world is getting fatter. And the sad thing is, gals expect to be praised for it.

MyMeier
09-12-19, 17:53
This is a worldwide trend. Working girls are getting fatter and fatter in all countries of the world. It has occurred to me that guys like myself who like slim intimate companions are having a harder and harder time at it. However, what about guys who like a lot of meat on the bones of their paramours? They're having a field day.And punters get fatter too. So why complain.

Nedjo
09-13-19, 00:44
Nedjo,

I wouldn't worry about the shop being affected by anything posted so far. As Oscar Wilde said the only thing worse that being talked about is not being talked about.

Over time if the owner consistently delivers on service they will be successful.

Price wise they are operating at the higher end of the market competing with Doki Doki and Mitu and but it would appear there is an increasing demand for superior surroundings coupled a superior experience.

I know myself that being known to the management can get you above average attention but as the field reports come in a more comprehensive picture will emerge and we will know whether your review reflects what can be expected.

Hopefully so.The discussion is interesting so I keep going.

I totally agree with the fact that building a good relationship with the different places' managers can help you getting a better service and why not a free beer or a discount!

And not only that but also getting some real tips about what girl should I pick according to my "specific" requests (not the very questionable advice coming from the mamasan to choose the ugly girl who is hiding behind all the others and probably had no customer for the past 2 weeks).

I am not that difficult and I like more GFE than PSE but like anyone else I hate a lazy girl playing on her smartphone 20 minutes before time's up.

I am not really a massage parlor guy. I prefer gogo bars when I am in Bangkok or Pattaya.

That being said I already tried Eden, 102, Addict, Pink, Poseidon, La Belle, a couple of shops soi 23, after I could not find a match at Shark and Baccara, and then Daisy Dream.

The best experience I had so far, if I only consider the quality of the service, is Addict. I repeated 3 times in less than a week.

I can't remember the name of the girl unfortunately but it was 2 years ago and I am pretty sure she already found a nice and rich husband thanks to her GFE / PSE outstanding skills. That kind of girls don't stay on the market for long. I can speak Thai almost fluently. I know dozens of girls (yes dozens) who are now married and have a family (and sometimes drive a nice BMW).

Back to Daisy Dream I want to insist on the fact that the line up was good and the decor is better than any other place I have been in Thailand. I saw better at Macau for instance.

Some of you here probably don't care about those details but I do personally.

Then I am not sure at all about their effort to train the girls to ensure the best possible service. Obviously they paid a lot of attention to the design and it would be sad if the rest does not follow.

My experience with Palm was good and I left happy. She offered DFK and was really sweet and professional in a nice way. No PSE here but again this is not my priority (except when it is 3 am and I am drunk maybe).

I will try again with another girl when I am back there in December. And who knows maybe my next review will be: Worst massage ever. But that first session was a pleasant one.

My worst experience so far was at 102. I did not even go upstairs. Manager there is impolite. Lot of girls available but not a single one attractive. And loads of Chinese customers queuing like in a supermarket.

Goatscrot
09-13-19, 00:58
And punters get fatter too. So why complain. We're not the ones working as providers. That being said, some of us take quite good care of ourselves.

Bouvis
09-13-19, 07:33
And punters get fatter too. So why complain.We are not paying fat punters for the service that's why.

I'm seeing an increase in wider providers of late and to be frank it really doesn't meet my expectations and requirements.

Please, Oh please bring back the dark skinned spinner.

No Fat Chics!

Syzygies
09-13-19, 07:39
Back to Daisy Dream I want to insist on the fact that the line up was good and the decor is better than any other place I have been in Thailand. I saw better at Macau for instance.

My experience with Palm was good and I left happy. She offered DFK and was really sweet and professional in a nice way. No PSE here but again this is not my priority (except when it is 3 am and I am drunk maybe).
Macau is better? That confuses greatly for me. Are you trying to day Daisy Line up is really good or Not really good?

Syzygies
09-13-19, 07:53
A trend that is not just seen with working girls. The world is getting fatter. And the sad thing is, gals expect to be praised for it.My occasional skinny Lao girl (only when in Bangkok) has no money. I guess she can't even afford to eat enough get fat, nor to smoke or drink alcohol. Ha ha. Truly quite poor, as for most of Laos. I joke of course, even the poor can consume bad stuff to get fat. Coke, Fanta, Sprite, etc.

However I think a lower portion of the young hookers were fat in 1991. Back then the fatties tended to be 35 and up.

Stepdaughter (18 YO) has got fat in recent years due to eating too much quantity too much sweet stuff, and too much junk in packets. My Thai language tutor was a fat young girl for a while, consuming lots of junk food.

Thai brother in law is fat, and so is his wife and so is his young boy. Whole family is eating too much bad stuff. They don't even know it, I think. Has the Som Tam consumption dropped? Don't see the young ones getting enough high fibre veg.

Penguin69
09-13-19, 09:45
I visited this place at 1 pm. I'd read various positive reports and was confident it would deliver the goods. Most of the girls on the site looked appealing. I'd emailed to ask which girls would be working at this time on my day of visiting. Very fast reply, which included several names not on the website. Based on positive reviews I opted for Helen. She is very attractive with a lovely body- nice natural tits of an acceptable size, flawless skin, pretty face, no baby damage. This being my first experience of a nuru it was interesting to experience the procedure. Arrived and waited in reception for 2 minutes before Helen took me to the room.

Stripping down she got me to lie face down on the double size inflatable mattress in a tiled wet area. Her phone was playing country music, which I detest, and after several minutes she changed it to instrumental.

Lots of rinsing followed and the strange nuru gel mixed and then applied. She did the body to body thing well enough, back and front. After the gel action and a great deal of rinsing of from the warm water being hosed into the large bucket, she offered her ass for some doggy. When I tried to hold her shoulders she removed my hands so I just held the hips. After this we rinsed again and dried off before moving to the bed. Not being a 20-something anymore I struggled to cum again despite her sterling efforts on the pink oboe, determined to make me cum a second time. It wasn't happening though. Maybe it was the lack of chemistry, maybe it was the strangely unerotic environment; I don't know. Anyway it was nice watching her working away on junior before my throwing in the towel. Just 10 minutes short of my 90 minute booking I left. She wasn't expecting a tip and I wasn't giving one. Damage 3.5 K. WIR? Not sure. But it was worth experiencing it.

Nedjo
09-13-19, 12:29
Macau is better? That confuses greatly for me. Are you trying to day Daisy Line up is really good or Not really good?I was talking about the decor.

I tried a sauna club once in Macau when I was on my way to HK before Air Asia and others added cheap direct connections from BKK to HK.

I think it was the Golden Sauna club. The rooms were completely 5 star and facilities include a lot of top notch equipment including swimming pool, sauna, hamam, etc (like in a FKK in Germany).

Line up at Daisy Dream was good: 15+ girls. Half of them eye catching.

Bouvis
09-13-19, 14:57
A trend that is not just seen with working girls. The world is getting fatter. And the sad thing is, gals expect to be praised for it.The horror, the horror.

Shirt
09-13-19, 15:15
I initially went here a few weeks ago. But the lineup was literally garbage. So I walked out pretty fast. The thing about this shop, is that it's so dark inside. A girl that's actually a 4, will look like she's a 8. Kind of like in most gogo bars and nightclubs.

A friend of mine recently went there. And he told me that they now had 2 or 3 girls that he thought looked good. So I went last week to check for myself.

When they showed me the lineup it wasn't really that much better than the first time I went there. I picked the 60 minutes VIP jacuzzi room, just to see what the big fuzz was about. And to see if a good room like they advertise, is something I care about. The girl I chose was called Sky. Late twenties girl. Photo here: https://gdiary.com/store/massage/daisy-dream-massage/models/images/sky2.jpg.

Sky was nice to talk with, as she had a pretty good grasp on English. No baby, darker skin. I usually like lighter skin, but again, it's really dark inside the bar area. Unless you can catch a glimpse of some girls waiting outside in daylight, it's hard to tell skin color or wrinkles. The session itself wasn't really up to what I'm used to at places charging money like this. It seems BBBJ is up to each girl, my friend went and he got a BBBJ. My girl however gave a covered one. Barely had time to get in the jacuzzi before the time was up. A quick 5 minute dip, and the time was up.

The room looks very nice indeed. But I don't go to shops like this to admire the interior. 99% of the time I'm just looking at the girl I'm fucking, the bed, or my dick. In the middle of the session I honestly felt it was kind of a waste of them to do it so nicely, but I guess some people really care about stuff like this. Like they have a TV and Bluetooth speaker in the room. I'm just staying there for 1 hour dude.

Will I come again, probably not. The only thing that stands out about this shop is the venue itself. I'd compare it do Addict or Momo on a bad day. In my opinion both the lineup and service level of the girls are subpar to places that charge similarly, for example Mitu and Doki.

Mr Benn
09-14-19, 00:44
I arrived at 11 am so the line-up at Cherry was comprised of just 3 girls. One was chunky and rough-looking. The other 2 had acceptable faces but were downright obese. I asked if Focus was available but she wasn't.

The old mamasan loudly asked me if I needed anal. While I was considering my reply, she asked again. Given that she was being so candid with me, I felt that it was appropriate for me to be candid with her. I said that what I really wanted was a slim girl.

The mamasan was momentarily lost for words and one of the fatties flashed me a look of pure disgust.

When she regained her composure, the mamasan said that a suitable girl would be arriving later. To allow everyone to save face, I agreed to return after lunch but I went to SW instead.

Francesco24
09-14-19, 05:01
I arrived at 11 am so the line-up at Cherry was comprised of just 3 girls. One was chunky and rough-looking. The other 2 had acceptable faces but were downright obese. I asked if Focus was available but she wasn't.

The old mamasan loudly asked me if I needed anal. While I was considering my reply, she asked again. Given that she was being so candid with me, I felt that it was appropriate for me to be candid with her. I said that what I really wanted was a slim girl.

The mamasan was momentarily lost for words and one of the fatties flashed me a look of pure disgust.

When she regained her composure, the mamasan said that a suitable girl would be arriving later. To allow everyone to save face, I agreed to return after lunch but I went to SW instead.Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Cherry. They have so many obese girls. Been there just once in many months and run away after seeing the lineup.

Franciscass
09-14-19, 09:23
So off I want to check out Daisy Dream. It's not straightforward locating it. It's at the very end of sub soi 3 on the right hand side.

Opened sliding doors and entered a dimly laid back girls lounging on sofas bordello like scene.

A little difficult to find one's bearing because of the lighting but the manger was welcoming and showed on a tablet what's on offer.

Basically starts at 2500 for 60 minutes in a standard room and goes up from there for longer sessions and whether you want one of the two Jacuzzi rooms.

Next comes a lineup of maybe 15 to 20, none outstanding I felt.

I get a little self-conscious after about 30 seconds of looking and usually end up picking the girl with the brightest smile and a decent shape.

After paying upfront she led me upstairs with a friendly arm around my waist and a "thank you so much daling for choosing me, I am so happy". OK I know but she was being sweet.

Got to the room, nice décor, on suite shower but it was small and I do mean small. Shouldn't matter really I suppose but it did.

She was totally service minded insisted on undressing me, folding my clothes, washing me, complimenting me on my this and that and whispering daling I want to make you happy, you tell what you want OK daling. I don't as matter of choice go into gratuitous detail but suffice to say her deep throat was one of the best I've had and I did leave a happy man.

I didn't ask for A+ so not sure if that was available but she was true to providing whatever I did want and more.

Incidentally her name is Noy.

Turgid
09-14-19, 15:27
...........The old mamasan loudly asked me if I needed anal. While I was considering my reply, she asked again. Given that she was being so candid with me, I felt that it was appropriate for me to be candid with her. I said that what I really wanted was a slim girl............That was totally uncool. You could have just said the girls are not really to my taste. I like a candid mamasan. You're in a brothel for heavens sakes.

Vicman
09-14-19, 20:49
I will be coming to BKK for the first time and I am compiling a list of must visit places. I have read that Mitu is a good nuru with unlimited shots. Are there any other like this or better? Any suggestions are welcomed. Thanks!

Mr Benn
09-15-19, 03:02
That was totally uncool.When I asked for a slim girl in Cherry, I was merely expressing my sexual preference. If you don't ask, you don't get. Shyness in a brothel is self-defeating. A girl matching my tastes might well have been eating somtam in the back. I do shag fatties from time to time but this is due to lust rather than political correctness (see above).

Mr Benn
09-15-19, 03:06
Nam is now a bit chubbier than in her photos but her face stood out in the line-up so I decided to break my no-fatties rule.

She performed all the services that SW regulars have come to expect with a zen-like calmness that I found pleasing. She has a kind and gentle temperament. If I was asked by a nervous first-timer to recommend a nice Thai lady to pop his commercial cherry in grand style, I would recommend Nam without hesitation. That guy who offers the unsolicited sex tips should take note.

Nam worked up quite a sweat during doggy which revealed on her back some secret tattoos of spirit animals which had been applied using invisible ink. She thought that I had second sight. I suspect that they may have some mystic significance. Cumming on them may result in bad luck.

Nam performs well and has the right attitude but there is no getting away from her weight. If she were to slim down a bit, I would certainly repeat.

Canyon
09-15-19, 10:15
After all the hype, I decided to visit Daisy Dream. The theécor is definitely impressive, with a nice Chinese-themed door at the entry. Once inside, it was hard to see because it was so dark. The theécor seemed nice, but it was so dim, I couldn't tell. The line-up was not impressive, ranging from ordinary to not very nice. I picked one who's face was acceptable. We climbed up two flights of stairs, and the atmosphere got hotter and hotter, as we climbed higher and higher. Once in the room, the heat was almost unbearable. She turned on the A / see, but it took a while to cool down.

Once she disrobed, I was very disappointed. The breasts were flat and were wrinkled like prunes. In the line-up, the breasts looked full, hidden inside a padded bra. Her name was Indy, so caveat emptor. There was no truth-in-packaging here. Her massage was fairly good, but the sex was terrible. BJ was covered and sex was so bad that I could not come. I had to pay 2. 500 upon entry for one hour, so there was no way to get a refund or withhold payment.

Despite the nice theécor, I would never go back. Charge of 2,500 for an hour, is too much. Should be for 90 minutes. Girls were not very attractive. Service, at least from Indy, was terrible.

This is an interim trip report. I wanted to post it now, so you could avoid the place. In a week, I'll post another report. I will have a good recommendation in that report, but I'm waiting until the end of my trip.

Member #4698
09-15-19, 14:38
After all the hype, I decided to visit Daisy Dream. The thecor is definitely impressive, with a nice Chinese-themed door at the entry. Once inside, it was hard to see because it was so dark. Very informative post Canyon. Too bad you had to take one for the team in order to post it however. LOL. I hate shriveled tits. And the darkness inside the joint is an immediate tell that no good can come from it.

But I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. I know you will. For upscale - check out soapy Maria Hotel & Spa. They have a lot of attractive girls (60 or 70). Good lighting too! Ha Ha.

Goatscrot
09-15-19, 16:41
After all the hype, I decided to visit Daisy Dream. The thecor is definitely impressive, with a nice Chinese-themed door at the entry. Once inside, it was hard to see because it was so dark. The thecor seemed nice, but it was so dim, I couldn't tell. The line-up was not impressive, ranging from ordinary to not very nice. I picked one who's face was acceptable. We climbed up two flights of stairs, and the atmosphere got hotter and hotter, as we climbed higher and higher. Once in the room, the heat was almost unbearable. She turned on the A / see, but it took a while to cool down.

Once she disrobed, I was very disappointed. The breasts were flat and were wrinkled like prunes. In the line-up, the breasts looked full, hidden inside a padded bra. Her name was Indy, so caveat emptor. There was no truth-in-packaging here. Her massage was fairly good, but the sex was terrible. BJ was covered and sex was so bad that I could not come. I had to pay 2. 500 upon entry for one hour, so there was no way to get a refund or withhold payment.

Despite the nice thecor, I would never go back. Charge of 2,500 for an hour, is too much. Should be for 90 minutes. Girls were not very attractive. Service, at least from Indy, was terrible.

This is an interim trip report. I wanted to post it now, so you could avoid the place. In a week, I'll post another report. I will have a good recommendation in that report, but I'm waiting until the end of my trip.Did you let management know that you were not satisfied? You should. There is no way they can address these issues if they are not informed.

Crocodilexp
09-15-19, 23:45
Nam is now a bit chubbier than in her photos but her face stood out in the line-up so I decided to break my no-fatties rule.

She performed all the services that SW regulars have come to expect with a zen-like calmness that I found pleasing. She has a kind and gentle temperament. If I was asked by a nervous first-timer to recommend a nice Thai lady to pop his commercial cherry in grand style, I would recommend Nam without hesitation. That guy who offers the unsolicited sex tips should take note.

Good review, I have to second the recommendation for Nam at Snow White. She might not be a top PSE star (not at the level of Ying from Tulip) and she doesn't do especially convincing GFE, but she's a nice person and gives me my money's worth every time, including A+ and a deeper-than-usual BBBJ. I'm a regular, she remembers what I like and my little quirks, it's much appreciated, and I keep going back.

Nam is tall for a Thai girl and has some meat on the bones. Certainly not for the pixie lovers out there. However, unless she gained weight in the last few months, I wouldn't call her fat, just large-framed. She's actually reasonably athletic, and not lazy to keep up the work in fairly demanding positions... if you want to sit back and be serviced, she's good at that.

Mr Benn
09-16-19, 01:08
Apple of Mango was the hot hardcore superstar of her day and, arguably, the farang community's favourite squeeze. Though currently resting on its laurels, the shop's reputation was built on providers like her. Other names also spring to mind.

I never actually took Apple because I had already taken her equally hot younger sister Cherry who needed more encouragement (though not much more) and was easier to book.

I was a bit naive in those days. If the opportunity arose now, I would book the sisters as a pair and arrange them so that each could use the other as bolster pillow in some of the most delightfully ungraceful positions conceived by man.

In 2019, I would crawl naked over broken glass to find any slim, pretty girl capable of recreating that feeling. I know that they are still out there somewhere but finding them through trial and error is time consuming and I've not had much luck recently in the farang-orientated shops.

Where did all the superstars go?

Goatscrot
09-16-19, 01:20
That was totally uncool. You could have just said the girls are not really to my taste. I like a candid mamasan. You're in a brothel for heavens sakes.I disagree. What he did was what we should all be doing. It's not going to stand the slightest chance of getting better if we don't let the mamasans and owners know the lineup is unacceptable.

Friend was in Addict. Hadn't chosen a gal in several visits. Mamasan asked him why he hadn't been booking. He replied, "they are all too big. " And the mamasan looked at the gals and said, "See, I told you. You're all too fat,. ".

Mr Benn
09-16-19, 04:17
Good review, I have to second the recommendation for Nam at Snow White.Thanks Crocodilexp. I appreciate the positive feedback. There are a number of seemingly unremarkable girls at Snow White who have revealed their hidden charms to me recently. Sometimes, you just get a good vibe from a plain girl in the lineup and are rewarded with a fine ride. I will post my reviews this week at a pace designed to allow time for the proper discussion of each one.

Franciscass
09-16-19, 06:57
While my experience was just fine and Noy was an eager partner it does seem from other reports Daisy Dream may have a problem on their hands.

Almost all posts have commented on the too dim lighting in the lounge / reception making getting one's bearings not easy and choosing from the line up difficult.

I also feel rightly or wrongly that the receptionist should be female. Ideally she is customer focused, putting the client at his ease, asking if he had any particular requirements and whether there are girls willing to accommodate. For example I like shaved. A welcoming drink and a cold cloth are nice touches.

Next, the attractiveness of the girls is honestly not great but would be acceptable if service was above average which while again I was personally happy does not seem to be what others experienced.

My sense is while the owners went to some lengths and expense to create a particular Chinese pleasure house vibe they lost it on recruitment and more importantly on training.

I have always maintained training is paramount to the success of any P4P venue. Training programs where the girls are shown maybe by an experienced provider how to treat customers, understand that basic services such as BBBJ, DATY, rimming, multiple pops and multiple positions are standard and not at their discretion.

Videos should be used to show some of the more inexperienced newcomers how to professionally perform these services.

Most important of all is to create an atmosphere in the shop of welcoming happy hookers who are eager to meet you and enjoy what they do for a living.

The hook to sell all of this on is letting the girls know this is the job they have chosen to make money and that they can do this, a 100 k a month or more. They should understand this is only going to happen if the shop is successful and that all of them not just some have to work hard making sure every customer is happy and wants to come back again.

To round off my formula for success, to attract the best talent give the girls a fair share of the fee which I would peg at a minimum 70% and use creative online marketing to promote the business.

OK I can imagine some of you are wondering which planet this guy is living on but I believe it is eminently doable if the will is there.

P.S. I am available as a consultant trainer.

GinAndTonic555
09-16-19, 10:34
I know I can easily find no condom at the PSE massage places. I'm curious if anyone has had any luck at the soapy massage. I like the girls at these places much better but these places always seem stricter about rubber use.

Anyone have any BBFS luck at addict?

Thanks!

Syzygies
09-16-19, 14:19
After all the hype, I decided to visit Daisy Dream. The thecor is definitely impressive, with a nice Chinese-themed door at the entry. Once inside, it was hard to see because it was so dark. The thecor seemed nice, but it was so dim, I couldn't tell. The line-up was not impressive, ranging from ordinary to not very nice. I picked one who's face was acceptable. We climbed up two flights of stairs, and the atmosphere got hotter and hotter, as we climbed higher and higher. Once in the room, the heat was almost unbearable. She turned on the A / see, but it took a while to cool down.

Once she disrobed, I was very disappointed. The breasts were flat and were wrinkled like prunes. In the line-up, the breasts looked full, hidden inside a padded bra. Her name was Indy, so caveat emptor. There was no truth-in-packaging here. Her massage was fairly good, but the sex was terrible. BJ was covered and sex was so bad that I could not come. I had to pay 2. 500 upon entry for one hour, so there was no way to get a refund or withhold payment.

Despite the nice thecor, I would never go back. Charge of 2,500 for an hour, is too much. Should be for 90 minutes. Girls were not very attractive. Service, at least from Indy, was terrible.

This is an interim trip report. I wanted to post it now, so you could avoid the place. In a week, I'll post another report. I will have a good recommendation in that report, but I'm waiting until the end of my trip.Canyon,

I did not get to daisy Dream for a look yet. Sounds like you saved me the trouble. I certainly would not go up if I could not see a girl that sexually excited me at all. I PMed you my phone number.

I hate dim lighting. Today I looked in some MPs but forgot the correct range glasses (long sighted) so dim lighting would have stuffed it up no end. Addict was very brightly lit but I did not choose anyone. Club 102 was a little dimly lit but a reasonable looking bunch today. Maybe you can try it.

I ended up paying just 2100 for 90 minutes at SW. Session was quite okay For a newbie (as yet not very skilled just 5 days on the job). I posted my report accidentally in Bangkok thread.

I would happily pay 2500 for 1 hour if girl was really hot. I still like looking at nudie dancers as can see if figure is truly good but Bar prices are getting out of hand these days. Even the crappy girls start to expect 3 K for ST and some places have a 1 K barfine.

Syzygies
09-16-19, 14:21
Very informative post Canyon. Too bad you had to take one for the team in order to post it however. LOL. I hate shriveled tits. And the darkness inside the joint is an immediate tell that no good can come from it.

But I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. I know you will. For upscale - check out soapy Maria Hotel & Spa. They have a lot of attractive girls (60 or 70). Good lighting too! Ha Ha.Thanks for that. Although I made a report mentioning Maria in the past, I did not actually yet get to go there and have a look.

Syzygies
09-16-19, 14:32
That was totally uncool. You could have just said the girls are not really to my taste. I like a candid mamasan. You're in a brothel for heavens sakes.I don't really get you. We are not trying to be very cool and popular with the line up in general. Candid mamasan calling a spade a spade, somewhat rudely perhaps. Why should he not say he likes slim girls (ignoring the anal part)? If the implication is none of them were really slim, so be it. What's the big deal. Possibly some were slim but he still did not like them.

Many guys are far less "cool" and state very plainly they cannot take any girls with a baby, only white skin, only those doing anal, etc.

If asked anything about my taste, I usually state I like skinny girls. Some shops hardly have any. However at least if any skinny girls have not come out yet, they might get called. Still won't work if the skinny girl happens to be ugly or have some other problems like very straight body, or no ass at all.

I was in Addict today very well lit. Mamasan asks me if any of the 10 girls approx. Appeals. I was candid too. I said that nose jobs don't really appeal to me (without commenting about how obvious they might be), and I thought at first they all had nose jobs. Most noses were not cute at all (for me). One girl pipes up and says she has no nose job, only a tit job. I had to be honest and say, sorry I don't really like tit jobs much either, however more simply in reality her look was not interesting me. Some of the tits jobs looked awful even though covered. Not every girl had a tit job, quite possibly.

These plain girls are supposed to be hot and gorgeous once they have had a nose job and a tit job. Sorry that is just not doing it for me. They usually look worse in my eyes.

Would be good for me if shops realised they ought to try to stoke some all natural slim girls with a reasonable face. Not all of us are into heavy surgeries girls. I will occasionally forgive surgeries if is a good subtle job. Tits that are still soft on the top. Straight slightly long noses are O.K. I had a regular at Crazy for years with a good nose job, but small tits.

Syzygies
09-16-19, 14:38
Nam performs well and has the right attitude but there is no getting away from her weight. If she were to slim down a bit, I would certainly repeat.I tried newbie Biwtee (Beauty) and she could lose a few kilos too (maybe 5 off would be good). Hope she does and I might even repeat, despite only a learner. Her pussy felt really nice once she had stretched just a little. Was not so easy to get one finger in at first. Some guys demand super tight I think.

J A Karl
09-16-19, 15:44
I tried newbie Biwtee (Beauty) and she could lose a few kilos too (maybe 5 off would be good). Hope she does and I might even repeat, despite only a learner. Her pussy felt really nice once she had stretched just a little. Was not so easy to get one finger in at first. Some guys demand super tight I think.Beauty is not a newbie.

She came back to work last week, she was absent almost 1 year while giving birth and taking care of the newborn.

She has worked at Snow White a few years before that.

Turgid
09-16-19, 16:56
I disagree. What he did was what we should all be doing. It's not going to stand the slightest chance of getting better if we don't let the mamasans and owners know the lineup is unacceptable.

Friend was in Addict. Hadn't chosen a gal in several visits. Mamasan asked him why he hadn't been booking. He replied, "they are all too big. " And the mamasan looked at the gals and said, "See, I told you. You're all too fat,. ".Mamasans are not stupid. They know exactly what mongers like. If they could get all slim good looking girls you think they would not accept them? Anyway we all have different styles. I would tell a mamasan anything but I will never tell a working girl to her face or within earshot that she is fat.

DimDerp
09-16-19, 18:00
I have a few reports to share from my last few trips to Bangkok that I haven' shared as I usually stick to my country of work for intel but figure should share here and hope the info is useful as this board has helped me a fair bit.

When I was visiting in July and while my friends were nursing their hangovers in the day I sneaked out to Chrome bar to try out a nuru for my first time. I heard great things about it from a friend and boy was he right!

Felt a bit weird there as I expected the place to look a bit nicer inside and less dingy but maybe I shouldn't have expected so much from this type of place. There was a group of guys in there early 30's there drinking beers casually with a worker which was a bit unusual to me but also kind of cool how casual this city can be at any time of day with fun times.

I was there around 1 or 2 pm and there were only 2 girls available at the time, one with short hair that seemed a little intimidating for a newbie and another who I believe was #35 based on looking at the website today. She wasn't super hot or super fit, I would say a 5 or 6 on my scale but was cute, small with a decent body and a had a sexy / nasty look like she would really know what she was doing. She lead me up to the room which was a bit worse than I expected also, but since it is a shower with an air-mattress on the floor didn't feel dirty to me at least. Helped me undress washed me down super well with a ridiculous amount of soup, made sure to get every inch.

35 Had me lay down on my stomach and started with a nuru, she really did lots of great teasing a bit of massaging and got me going super quick. Really a unique experience with the body slides and gel is interesting. After about 15 minutes or so got me to flip and it was bit more of the same with lots of HJ teases, she inserted a digit for my first time I didn't love it but also surprisingly didn't hate it, after a little while went on to the BBBJ and damn she was a pro, had me finishing in a super short time!

After round 1 rinsed me off and went back to enjoying some nuru again with her teasing, mouth and hands it had me full steam and ready for round 2 quicker than ever possible, I really thought I was only going for 1 round but she is a pro. After a while she pulled out a rubber and tried her out in a few positions which was nice, with some extra added difficulty due to the slippery factor. Since she was super wet from the gel I asked if I can put a finger in her butt and she happily obliged which was so hot! She asked me to go gentle and try junior in there after awhile as well, he wasn't there for too long before I couldn't take it any longer and it was probably the fastest round 2 I have ever had.

Again she showered me super well and helped me dress to have me on my way with a big smile on my face! Overall really great experience and super unique from anything else. I really need to go back sometime and try it with 2 girls for a longer session!

Goatscrot
09-16-19, 18:29
Mamasans are not stupid. They know exactly what mongers like. If they could get all slim good looking girls you think they would not accept them? Anyway we all have different styles. I would tell a mamasan anything but I will never tell a working girl to her face or within earshot that she is fat.Many would certainly tell you. Thais can be very direct. Maybe if more punters told them to their face, they'd get the message and lay off the big desserts and junk food.
And if the punters don't accept and the gals don't get any business then they'll improve or close. Either is an improvement on the current state of things.

Smoothy
09-16-19, 19:59
Many would certainly tell you. Thais can be very direct.For sure they are very direct. Almost every Thai working girl I talk to calls me fat. It doesn't bother me in the least. If it bothered me, I'd lose some weight. It never stops them from taking my money so it's a non issue.

Turgid
09-16-19, 21:04
Many would certainly tell you. Thais can be very direct. Maybe if more punters told them to their face, they'd get the message and lay off the big desserts and junk food.
And if the punters don't accept and the gals don't get any business then they'll improve or close. Either is an improvement on the current state of things.What good is telling a girl that she's overweight? She knows that and most likely tells herself that every day. I dated a portly girl many decades ago and understand their mindset. Are those direct Thais to whom you refer known for their couth? The Thai pros and non-pros with whom I have had relations have all been quite prudent. I prefer to discuss working out and dieting with a girl, initiated diplomatically, rather than to offend them. That would have more effective results.

EihTooms
09-16-19, 22:38
For sure they are very direct. Almost every Thai working girl I talk to calls me fat. It doesn't bother me in the least. If it bothered me, I'd lose some weight. It never stops them from taking my money so it's a non issue.I am less than 2 kilos/about 4 lbs overweight for my height according to any Proper Weight-to-Height chart on the internet. Neither P4P Thai girls nor regular non pro Thai girls hesitate for a moment to comment on me being "uon" (fat) when they put their hands on my waist or stomach. Yes, many Thai girls will say they like a man with a little extra weight on his body. But the fact that they even give me a backhand compliment like that, must say anything at all about those 2 kilos, tells me a lot about how Thai girls don't give a damn about trying to be diplomatically silent regarding anybody else's weight.

Mr Benn
09-17-19, 01:11
I tried newbie Biwtee (Beauty) and she could lose a few kilos too.You and I have the same spec, Syzygies. Pretty, all-natural skinny's hit the spot for me too but a polite coupling with some fragile cover-girl who ends the session with her makeup intact is a fail in my book. To ensure that today's service standards meet with my old-timey expectations, I have had to make compromises.

I took Beauty last year but I can't remember anything about the session. I guess that says it all.

The only all-natural skinny in Snow White is Palmy. Her face is also quite acceptable to me. I liked her but there are a few caveats. See above for my review.

Mr Benn
09-17-19, 01:13
Palmy is a skinny girl. This earns her an automatic place on my dance-card. Her photo is accurate and there are no horrors lurking under her T-shirt.

I found her to be cooperative if a bit standoffish. No blowjob was offered but I'm sure that she would have obliged if I had insisted. Somehow, she seemed to have convinced herself that I would take liberties. This may have had something to do with the hard-working reputation of my current favourite at Snow White. The more timid girls assume that her regular customers are too demanding.

Intercourse was pleasant enough though and Palmy made no attempt to set rules or rush me. Sex with a skinny girl is a rare treat these days. I suspect that a couple of repeats would build the trust necessary for Palmy to come out of her shell. Surprise anal would almost certainly be counterproductive.

The trust-building strategy has worked well for me in the past but I am currently exploring lower-hanging fruit so I may not have the time to test this hypothesis on Palmy myself.

I would be genuinely interested to learn whether another more patient punter has managed to coax a strong performance out of her.

Mr Benn
09-17-19, 02:33
P.S. I am available as a consultant trainer.That gig is not as much fun as you might imagine, Franciscass. Against my better judgement, I was once persuaded to take part in a massage shop training session. When a manager does the training himself, I believe that the shop pays. This courtesy wasn't extended to me, however, so I turned down their subsequent requests.

Spanky28
09-17-19, 02:33
Again she showered me super well and helped me dress to have me on my way with a big smile on my face! Overall really great experience and super unique from anything else. I really need to go back sometime and try it with 2 girls for a longer session!Sounds like you had a blast. How much was the damage?

Goatscrot
09-17-19, 02:54
What good is telling a girl that she's overweight? She knows that and most likely tells herself that every day. I dated a portly girl many decades ago and understand their mindset. Are those direct Thais to whom you refer known for their couth? The Thai pros and non-pros with whom I have had relations have all been quite prudent. I prefer to discuss working out and dieting with a girl, initiated diplomatically, rather than to offend them. That would have more effective results.I have met a few oily gals who workout and eat right. They are in the minority. Talking to them about exercise and diet is like talking to a dog about Outer Mongolian politics. Loss of face is one of the only ways to initiate action. Sorry, I've never been on board with the "fat is ok and should be celebrated crowd. " Guess the new term is curvy, but that really means fat.

Canyon
09-17-19, 03:15
Very informative post Canyon. Too bad you had to take one for the team in order to post it however. LOL. I hate shriveled tits. And the darkness inside the joint is an immediate tell that no good can come from it.

But I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. I know you will. For upscale - check out soapy Maria Hotel & Spa. They have a lot of attractive girls (60 or 70). Good lighting too! Ha Ha.Thank you, Natty. My next stop is Maria Spa.

Canyon.

Canyon
09-17-19, 03:45
Check your pm.

Zam007
09-17-19, 10:02
Very informative post Canyon. Too bad you had to take one for the team in order to post it however. LOL. I hate shriveled tits. And the darkness inside the joint is an immediate tell that no good can come from it.

But I hope you enjoy the rest of your trip. I know you will. For upscale - check out soapy Maria Hotel & Spa. They have a lot of attractive girls (60 or 70). Good lighting too! Ha Ha.Hi Natty,

How much do they charge in Maria?

Goatscrot
09-17-19, 10:33
Palmy is a skinny girl. This earns her an automatic place on my dance-card. Her photo is accurate and there are no horrors lurking under her T-shirt.

I found her to be cooperative if a bit standoffish. No blowjob was offered but I'm sure that she would have obliged if I had insisted. Somehow, she seemed to have convinced herself that I would take liberties. This may have had something to do with the hard-working reputation of my current favourite at Snow White. The more timid girls assume that her regular customers are too demanding.

Intercourse was pleasant enough though and Palmy made no attempt to set rules or rush me. Sex with a skinny girl is a rare treat these days. I suspect that a couple of repeats would build the trust necessary for Palmy to come out of her shell. Surprise anal would almost certainly be counterproductive.

The trust-building strategy has worked well for me in the past but I am currently exploring lower-hanging fruit so I may not have the time to test this hypothesis on Palmy myself.

I would be genuinely interested to learn whether another more patient punter has managed to coax a strong performance out of her.Booked her once. She was meh. Did everything including A+, was pleasant, and the skill set was ok, but she lacked that nasty edge. Just going through the motions. Too bad, because the looks are ok for SW. Seems we are not going to find gals who look good and give a true PSE. That ship has sailed.

Syzygies
09-17-19, 14:23
Booked her once. She was meh. Did everything including A+, was pleasant, and the skill set was ok, but she lacked that nasty edge. Just going through the motions. Too bad, because the looks are ok for SW. Seems we are not going to find gals who look good and give a true PSE. That ship has sailed.Your post sounds very encouraging for me, since I don't need nasty girls. Ha ha. However when I look at Palmy pic on web site, I think the face is not that special to really pull me in. Not sure she was in the line up when I visited. I think I saw Lemon (most likely from pics) passing on the stairs and she seemed to be the thinnest at the time.

On web site at SW, AA and Anny seem to be the pretty ones. Seem to be by appointment. Did anyone ever try?

Web pic of Beauty is very realistic. Very cheerful smile, not a very serious type and likes joking around. Weak English (if any). No pornstar, only 5 days total experience. Ha ha. Blowjob was just a pass, better than nothing. I think her attitude is alright so she maybe better in a few months with more experience. At least her pussy felt great. Kissing was a pass too.

My regular girl visited today, prettier, hotter body, older and experienced, and great BBBJ, great GFE, horny and gets off, great tongue kisser, can do pornstar a bit, so It is hard to go trying new girls when still have some great regular girls left over (just so few left).

Better I try new girls when all my regulars are not available. I don't get bored with really excellent girls so quick, when the MP girls can't rarely compete in every category (especially the looks).

I think the whole scene is very quiet right now, so logically it ought to be a buyers market. ha ha

DimDerp
09-17-19, 15:00
I was in Thailand for a super short business trip again last month, I didn't have a lot of time so seemed like an good opportunity to go try a Thai BJ bar for my first time. Loli tas.

I was there late morning / early afternoon and I think there were about 6 ladies available, all average or below. Probably the best was a 5 to 6 max overall to me in the looks / body department, I didn't get her name. She was likely in her early 30's too late 20's, Most seemed around this range or older.

The setup of this place is rather odd to me, it was an large upstairs area with couches each separated by curtains. If ever busy or if going with friends would be a bit weird to me as I am sure you could hear anything and everything but luckily for me it was empty during the day. She asked me to undress and closed the curtains to get her supplies. With most things being made of fabric I tried to not touch anything well undressing.

Came back and asked if I wanted BBBJ or to be covered, I made the mistake going for bb. Wet-wiped me thoroughly and got to work. Service was OK, very mechanical maybe slightly better than average, some licking, not really much DT but she knows what she was doing and she was very quick to get me to finish. Took it all in her mouth and quickly spit it out into tissue as fast as she could, cleaned me up with excessive wet-wipes and sent me on my way.

Overall I would not recommend, I left feeling a bit weird about the experience and what happened next made it even worse.

24 hours later when I am work back in my home country I noticed a small amount of white discharge before peeing and had a slight tingly / pain. It super freaked me out, did a bunch of investigations online and was super worried to get tested for anything as I had a girlfriend at the time and my country is a bit more sensitive than others for STI's (for example if you have aids you are deported). The discharge happened again so knew I had to go get tested and fix this. Went the next morning and paid out my ass for all possible tests and they gave me some heavy anti-biotics which would treat both possible STI they thought it could be. I had the weird discharge before peeing one more time before it very quickly went away in about 24 hours from first noticing it. Still not really sure what it was and if it was the pills that fixed it or what. The DR said all the tests came back negative and they weren't sure what it was. Definitely won't be doing that again at a high turnover place and will stick to an HJ or coverage if I do.

Has anyone else had this experience and know what could have caused this?

Member #4698
09-17-19, 15:41
How much do they charge in Maria?Maria is a high end BKK soapy with pricing to match, but the bordello gets a positive review from me because it offers up a whole lot of attractive girls in a classy surrounding and service is generally very good. YMMV, however, Ha Ha. So prices range from 3800 baht to 10,000 baht and possibly more per session depending on the girl's classification. The last time I was there I chose an attractive "L" category girl. I think her price was either 5800 bt or 6400 bt. I forgot which, but I enjoyed the session. The only sour note was that Nam or Pam would not let me take any pictures afterwards. As a result she is fast becoming a faded memory in my mind and I can barely recall how she looked except that at the time I thought she looked real good. I would have given her a larger tip if she had been photo friendly. But the bottom line is I plan to go back to Maria when I return to BKK and find somebody new or a few somebodies new. It is a pretty good bordello.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-17-19, 17:47
For those who like slim, all natural, pretty girls, you may want to Check out Pang, 26 years old, no obvious baby damage (although I think she has had a kid), and full be cup tits. During the interview I asked her if she kissed with tongue: she was hesitant but agreed and did so in the session. Asked if she did BBBJ, said yes, and did so (pretty well) in the session. Said yes also to DATY. Only thing is that she did not want to do 90 minute session (probably because she would only get a max of 100 baht for the extra 30 minutes since it was 2000 baht for 60 minutes and 2200 baht for 90 minutes), so settled for an hour session, but she got tired after 50 minutes so just did BBBJ for the remainder of the session. A very nice girl who gave a good session but don't expect to pound her for 90 minutes.

Turgid
09-17-19, 18:02
I have met a few oily gals who workout and eat right. They are in the minority. Talking to them about exercise and diet is like talking to a dog about Outer Mongolian politics. Loss of face is one of the only ways to initiate action. ...........When I was at university I started an aerobics class which many, mostly girls, joined. The majority lost weight and chose healthy lifestyles. Perhaps I should have chosen your path and fat shamed them instead, it would have been easier and according to you I would have gotten better results.

Turgid
09-17-19, 18:10
............. I've never been on board with the "fat is ok and should be celebrated crowd. " ...........Totally agree.

Whoreman
09-17-19, 18:30
Anyone tried Kibsy yet? She has quite a rack judging from the photos on the website but I'm worried she might be a mum with no firmness.

Crocodilexp
09-17-19, 21:52
For those who like slim, all natural, pretty girls, you may want to Check out Pang, 26 years old, no obvious baby damage (although I think she has had a kid), and full be cup tits... don't expect to pound her for 90 minutes

Nice report, thank you. Did she offer multiple pops? How about others girls at Pink Massage (is it a shop policy)?

I don't think I could bang someone for even full 60 min without popping. And a few times I did (too much Viagra after 1-2 earlier sessions), it wasn't that much fun.

Goatscrot
09-17-19, 23:16
When I was at university I started an aerobics class which many, mostly girls, joined. The majority lost weight and chose healthy lifestyles. Perhaps I should have chosen your path and fat shamed them instead, it would have been easier and according to you I would have gotten better results.Point there was they had already started the class. Perhaps someone got on them about their weight and then they started the class. Problem is most of the gals here do nothing. They eat and sit. Many avoid walking at all costs. They need to be called out. As most folks do. I'm certainly not down with the term "shaming" either.

Mr Benn
09-18-19, 00:19
Sunny is apparently a former kick-boxer who could take on any contender to win at sex. That is what she told me when she picked me up and didn't return my feet to the ground until I had asked her nicely.

30's, significant baby-damage, no oil-painting etc. But when all is said and done, Sunny is a strong and athletic woman with near limitless sexual energy who is also a good laugh. Nice shiny long black hair too.

She is not fat but I was much impressed by the size of her bubble butt. Face down and booty up, Sunny offers one of the finest views in Bangkok. I went back the following week to admire it again.

Mr Benn
09-18-19, 01:08
Seems we are not going to find gals who look good and give a true PSE. That ship has sailed.Agreed. True PSE is only available to those willing to compromise on looks. Those who aim low and achieve are having better sex and more often but, every time I enjoy a wild ride on an amazing performer with a ruined body, I leave walking on air but I also die a little inside. Some part of me has gone to the dogs.

Turgid
09-18-19, 01:59
Point there was they had already started the class. Perhaps someone got on them about their weight...........I did.....with sensitivity.

Turgid
09-18-19, 02:03
............ I'm certainly not down with the term "shaming" either.We're getting somewhere.

Goatscrot
09-18-19, 07:38
We're getting somewhere.Well, probably not. I meant that literally; I'm not down with the term. Sometimes people need a swift kick in the ass. They don't need sensitivity.

Goatscrot
09-18-19, 07:40
Agreed. True PSE is only available to those willing to compromise on looks. Those who aim low and achieve are having better sex and more often but, every time I enjoy a wild ride on an amazing performer with a ruined body, I leave walking on air but I also die a little inside. Some part of me has gone to the dogs.Oh, that describes the way I feel exactly. It's not a good thing.

EihTooms
09-18-19, 09:30
I was in Thailand for a super short business trip again last month, I didn't have a lot of time so seemed like an good opportunity to go try a Thai BJ bar for my first time. Loli tas.

I was there late morning / early afternoon and I think there were about 6 ladies available, all average or below. Probably the best was a 5 to 6 max overall to me in the looks / body department, I didn't get her name. She was likely in her early 30's too late 20's, Most seemed around this range or older.

The setup of this place is rather odd to me, it was an large upstairs area with couches each separated by curtains. If ever busy or if going with friends would be a bit weird to me as I am sure you could hear anything and everything but luckily for me it was empty during the day. She asked me to undress and closed the curtains to get her supplies. With most things being made of fabric I tried to not touch anything well undressing.

Came back and asked if I wanted BBBJ or to be covered, I made the mistake going for bb. Wet-wiped me thoroughly and got to work. Service was OK, very mechanical maybe slightly better than average, some licking, not really much DT but she knows what she was doing and she was very quick to get me to finish. Took it all in her mouth and quickly spit it out into tissue as fast as she could, cleaned me up with excessive wet-wipes and sent me on my way.

Overall I would not recommend, I left feeling a bit weird about the experience and what happened next made it even worse.

24 hours later when I am work back in my home country I noticed a small amount of white discharge before peeing and had a slight tingly / pain. It super freaked me out, did a bunch of investigations online and was super worried to get tested for anything as I had a girlfriend at the time and my country is a bit more sensitive than others for STI's (for example if you have aids you are deported). The discharge happened again so knew I had to go get tested and fix this. Went the next morning and paid out my ass for all possible tests and they gave me some heavy anti-biotics which would treat both possible STI they thought it could be. I had the weird discharge before peeing one more time before it very quickly went away in about 24 hours from first noticing it. Still not really sure what it was and if it was the pills that fixed it or what. The DR said all the tests came back negative and they weren't sure what it was. Definitely won't be doing that again at a high turnover place and will stick to an HJ or coverage if I do.

Has anyone else had this experience and know what could have caused this?What you describe sounds similar to what a couple of others have described in threads here; no evidence of STI shows up in a test yet there is a discharge and a feeling that some damage or injury to the urethra or inner lining of your penis has occured. Is that about right?

Have had the same experience 2-3 times over the years. And in my case as well as yours and the couple of similar reports I have seen, it always seems to follow within a day or two of getting a blowjob to completion. I don't believe the fact that it was a BBBJ or a covered one is the issue. Otherwise, something would have shown up in a test for infection transmission, no?

I believe there are simply some blowjobs that are firmer, more forceful, more aggressive, with more tugging and pulling than the delicate inner lining of a penis is built to withstand without risking injury. After all, we're talking about the muscles in a woman's jaw and, possibly, her hands involved in the act, far more formidable than any gripping muscles in any vagina I have ever experienced. Thankfully. LOL.

You referred to the BJ you got as "mechanical" and that she got you off quickly. Was part of it that she was tugging and pulling more forcefully and tighter than you normally feel with other BJs and regular sex?

I have chalked up my 2-3 bouts with the post-BJ-to-completion, non STI-related symptoms you described to just that; internal damage, bruising and injury from a too aggressive, too rough or too forceful blowjob. And a few antibiotic pills either worked or were simply coincidental to the damage healing on its own over time.

Rick Rock
09-18-19, 12:32
White urethral discharge results from the presence of white blood cells, which means your body is fighting an infection. When you say you had a full STI workup, I wonder if you were actually tested for all known pathogens. Did the test you took give results for mycoplasma genitalium, mycoplasma hominis, ureaplasma urealyticum and ureaplasma parvum? A lot of people are walking around with these infections, but they don't know it. Many physicians are backwards and / or unequipped, especially when considering Bangkok is a cosmopolitan sex pot where millions from all over the world exchange bodily fluids on a regular basis.

Turgid
09-18-19, 15:15
............ Sometimes people need a swift kick in the ass..........I have to agree with you on that. Yeah, some people.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-18-19, 16:22
Nice report, thank you. Did she offer multiple pops? How about others girls at Pink Massage (is it a shop policy)? Snip.I don't know. I never ask the girl about multiple pops since I never finish the first pop. What I ask instead is can she and will she have sex the whole session (although the first 15-20 minutes or so is foreplay to get the girl warmed up and ready to fuck) since I never come.

DimDerp
09-18-19, 20:23
You referred to the BJ you got as "mechanical" and that she got you off quickly. Was part of it that she was tugging and pulling more forcefully and tighter than you normally feel with other BJs and regular sex?I wouldn't necessarily argue that could be the cause but definitely I have had much harder sucking or more forcefully tugging from myself as well as others from what I remember compared to this instance so seems unlikely to me. I thought it could possibly also be related to the amount of wet wipes / alcohol used but maybe that is a long shot.

At Rickrock you may be right, I honestly don't know as I don't have the results handy to check everything tested and that could be one of the cases. I understood everything possible was tested, my country is almost as much of a cosmopolitan for sex but they are much more ignorant to what is actually happening so wouldn't be surprised if they missed a test. It also seemed very strange that all symptoms went away in 24 hours (less than 12 hours from taking antibiotics).

Sri5657
09-18-19, 22:24
The quality of girls at Chrome seems to have been shrinking over time. There are not many positive reviews about the place either. Many news places have popped up which are providing better services. Between six to seven pm is when most places have their best lineups.

I would prefer Doki Doki any day for a nuru over Chrome. Try it and you wouldn't be disappointed.


I have a few reports to share from my last few trips to Bangkok that I haven' shared as I usually stick to my country of work for intel but figure should share here and hope the info is useful as this board has helped me a fair bit.

When I was visiting in July and while my friends were nursing their hangovers in the day I sneaked out to Chrome bar to try out a nuru for my first time. I heard great things about it from a friend and boy was he right!

Felt a bit weird there as I expected the place to look a bit nicer inside and less dingy but maybe I shouldn't have expected so much from this type of place. There was a group of guys in there early 30's there drinking beers casually with a worker which was a bit unusual to me but also kind of cool how casual this city can be at any time of day with fun times.

I was there around 1 or 2 pm and there were only 2 girls available at the time, one with short hair that seemed a little intimidating for a newbie and another who I believe was #35 based on looking at the website today. She wasn't super hot or super fit, I would say a 5 or 6 on my scale but was cute, small with a decent body and a had a sexy / nasty look like she would really know what she was doing. She lead me up to the room which was a bit worse than I expected also, but since it is a shower with an air-mattress on the floor didn't feel dirty to me at least. Helped me undress washed me down super well with a ridiculous amount of soup, made sure to get every inch.

Mr Benn
09-19-19, 00:13
Emmy is difficult to book and seldom appears in the lineup. She is always busy or on some extended holiday. She is attractive by massage shop standards but would not turn heads in a go-go bar. 30's, no baby damage.

Her sloppy blowjob was awesome but, given the messy flow of saliva dripping down onto her tits, she opted to perform this in the shower rather than on the bed.

Intercourse was very good but I had to take the initiative. Marital spooning worked well for Emmy but she also dropped into a lower-level of consciousness after finding her happy place. Keeping her moving was like playing with a sleepy cat. Just thinking about it again gives me a tingle.

I would like to repeat but the windows in our respective diaries have yet to match up.

Mr Benn
09-19-19, 00:36
What I ask instead is can she and will she have sex the whole session.Seconded. In the real world, contractors who always contrive to leave work early usually get fired and they don't often have the gall to ask for a tip on the way out.

Syzygies
09-19-19, 05:47
Emmy is difficult to book and seldom appears in the lineup. She is always busy or on some extended holiday. She is attractive by massage shop standards but would not turn heads in a go-go bar. 30's, no baby damage.
That is a good summary. What is good looking by Oily MP stands is not necessarily going to be very special at all in a bar, even though bars have ugly girls too. Bars tend to have more pretty girls on display, well some bars anyway.

I did Emmy once or twice when she was new to SW but her looks were not hot enough to keep me coming back, even the session was very good. Plus I don't really go for nose jobs much. My GF is a lot hotter for looks. Yeh in my recent visit I did not see her. Picked an all natural girl, which may be in short supply.

My recent visit to Club 102 though, I would say the line up was to standard of a reasonable bar, with 2 or 3 good lookers, even allowing for me hating obvious surgeries. I would visit again, and take the risk maybe.

So SW is not the best MP for looks, but there are other considerations, for most regular customers there, I am sure. Much more risk of a dud performance at many other MPs.

Syzygies
09-19-19, 05:52
The quality of girls at Chrome seems to have been shrinking over time. There are not many positive reviews about the place either. Many news places have popped up which are providing better services. Between six to seven pm is when most places have their best lineups.

I would prefer Doki Doki any day for a nuru over Chrome. Try it and you wouldn't be disappointed.Yeh I stopped going to Chrome some time back. Even Annies was better back then for choice.

I think unfortunately the majority of girls at Chrome are in the fat category, so if you need thin like me, very few choices are there. Doki Doki may have a higher proportion of slimmer girls (and some fatties). Guys that like blubber will have not problems at all. Must have a look in Doki Doki again, to give it a fair test. My pal said he had a good time there recently.

Rick Rock
09-19-19, 09:37
At Rickrock you may be right, I honestly don't know as I don't have the results handy to check everything tested and that could be one of the cases. I understood everything possible was tested, my country is almost as much of a cosmopolitan for sex but they are much more ignorant to what is actually happening so wouldn't be surprised if they missed a test. It also seemed very strange that all symptoms went away in 24 hours (less than 12 hours from taking antibiotics).Minor and quickly disappearing discharge is common with some infections that are not commonly tested for even in the US or Europe like mycoplasma. In fact they're often asymptomatic or present with so little symptom that they infections go unnoticed, especially as they're not usually found unless a person takes the initiative themselves and specifically asks for the test. They are also known to react to antibiotics like doxycycline and azithromycin without actually being killed by either. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5589104/.

You would likely know if you had gonorrhea, as it is very painful and comes with a lot of discharge. Also gonorrhea picked up in Thailand these days would require an injection or two to cure, not pills. Chlamydia isn't commonly picked up from oral sex, if it is even possible to be picked up that way at all.

I would ask the doctor to see your test results from the lab. But that's just me.

Syzygies
09-19-19, 11:33
Is DokiDoki over hyped???Maybe I will just make that worse. I always try to give an unbiased opinion. Not really. I am biased by my taste and style. At least an honest opinion. Was like going to heaven today. Best Nuru I ever had. The girl was well trained in Nuru massage.

So today I looked for regular Annie at Dream Heaven. She was on holidays. No others looked natural and pretty. Plenty of fake noses and tits.

Okay So time to look in Doki Doki recommended by buddy too. Line up was about 10 girls or close to that. Much better than previous look see.

Even one pudgy girl looked pretty enough to consider. Despite obvious sillies, Nadia had a tight body slim with curves and face good too. So could not go past her.

60 minutes would be seriously crazy for me. I hate rush. So 90 minutes. Yes a bit expensive at 3500.

Nice room shits on Annie's rooms for body slide. Nadia undressed and had perfect body barring the exaggerated bolt ONS. I can forgive one fault. Maybe some would Complain she had very short pussy hair on top. Not clean shaved above pussy. Just slightly more than a landing strip.

She was skilled at doing body slide slowly and sensually. Best in surviving memory. BBBJ scores 7 quite good and did 69 for a while. Finally extended fuck in several positions moving to bed for more stability part way through. She made no complaints and neither do I. She seems to like cock and Farangs more than Asians. No stretch marks on body. Looks to have been someone who works out. Ass is beautiful but smallish.

Did not ask for anal. Does not work weekends. Might have to repeat tomorrow. Was that good.

Face 8, body 8 (1 point off for bolt ONS), service nearly a 9. GFE 9. Not known if anal or multi shots. She was not lazy. We used the full 90 mins. She was happy that I was more than happy.

Nadia has been there only 3 weeks. She is tall like a model Almost. Age looks 25 but possibly older. Who cares body still immaculate. No face lines. Could not decide if she had a nose job or not. If so it was very subtle. Not a high ridge.

I don't like real massage! Ha ha Never had a service this good at a soapy in recent years. Walked out almost legless

DimDerp
09-19-19, 14:39
Minor and quickly disappearing discharge is common with some infections that are not commonly tested for even in the US or Europe like mycoplasma. In fact they're often asymptomatic or present with so little symptom that they infections go unnoticed, especially as they're not usually found unless a person takes the initiative themselves and specifically asks for the test. They are also known to react to antibiotics like doxycycline and azithromycin without actually being killed by either. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5589104/.

You would likely know if you had gonorrhea, as it is very painful and comes with a lot of discharge. Also gonorrhea picked up in Thailand these days would require an injection or two to cure, not pills. Chlamydia isn't commonly picked up from oral sex, if it is even possible to be picked up that way at all.

I would ask the doctor to see your test results from the lab. But that's just me.I am no doctor but I hope I am safe to assume that something that is definitely symptomatic and then upon receiving treatment the symptoms go away and do not return that it was actually fixed and it doesn't mean it just switched to asymptomatic. Either way will check with the doc what was all tested.

Thanks again Rick, I do appreciate the info as I am learning from this!

Vrsabien
09-20-19, 01:24
Anyone been cherry lately, used to be good but now seems all big girls.

Is Cathy still there or anyone given her a spin lately?

It looks like mango has better offerings with Sarah and Ice, anyone done them?

Vrsabien
09-20-19, 08:58
You can read the long story below or provide feedback if you reckon 5 star booking worth it.

Story is couple months ago went to Mitu to do a little hottie called Seri but alas she was not there that day.

So instead did a young girl at training level but was not overly impressed. Room was super dark and massage was next to nothing, plus nuru was not as expected.

But granted she was a trainee plus I chose to boom boom her first before nuru / massage and we did a few positions that would have tried her out hence that maybe why nuru message no good.

Also apparently they an unlimited shot shop but she didn't offer a 2nd round.

So not keen go back, however just saw a photo of that little hottie seri again and she rekindle my mitu flame!

However since coming back to Bangkok now the little hottie has risen in the ranks and now a 5 star girl at a whopping 4,600 baht!

So my question, is 5 star significantly better than a trainee and worth the money?

Zam007
09-20-19, 12:10
Maria is a high end BKK soapy with pricing to match, but the bordello gets a positive review from me because it offers up a whole lot of attractive girls in a classy surrounding and service is generally very good. YMMV, however, Ha Ha. So prices range from 3800 baht to 10,000 baht and possibly more per session depending on the girl's classification. The last time I was there I chose an attractive "L" category girl. I think her price was either 5800 bt or 6400 bt. I forgot which, but I enjoyed the session. The only sour note was that Nam or Pam would not let me take any pictures afterwards. As a result she is fast becoming a faded memory in my mind and I can barely recall how she looked except that at the time I thought she looked real good. I would have given her a larger tip if she had been photo friendly. But the bottom line is I plan to go back to Maria when I return to BKK and find somebody new or a few somebodies new. It is a pretty good bordello.Thanks for the reply.

I will consider it.

Zam007
09-20-19, 12:46
While my experience was just fine and Noy was an eager partner it does seem from other reports Daisy Dream may have a problem on their hands.

Almost all posts have commented on the too dim lighting in the lounge / reception making getting one's bearings not easy and choosing from the line up difficult.

I also feel rightly or wrongly that the receptionist should be female. Ideally she is customer focused, putting the client at his ease, asking if he had any particular requirements and whether there are girls willing to accommodate. For example I like shaved. A welcoming drink and a cold cloth are nice touches.

Next, the attractiveness of the girls is honestly not great but would be acceptable if service was above average which while again I was personally happy does not seem to be what others experienced.

My sense is while the owners went to some lengths and expense to create a particular Chinese pleasure house vibe they lost it on recruitment and more importantly on training.

I have always maintained training is paramount to the success of any P4P venue. Training programs where the girls are shown maybe by an experienced provider how to treat customers, understand that basic services such as BBBJ, DATY, rimming, multiple pops and multiple positions are standard and not at their discretion.

Videos should be used to show some of the more inexperienced newcomers how to professionally perform these services.

Most important of all is to create an atmosphere in the shop of welcoming happy hookers who are eager to meet you and enjoy what they do for a living.

The hook to sell all of this on is letting the girls know this is the job they have chosen to make money and that they can do this, a 100 k a month or more. They should understand this is only going to happen if the shop is successful and that all of them not just some have to work hard making sure every customer is happy and wants to come back again.

To round off my formula for success, to attract the best talent give the girls a fair share of the fee which I would peg at a minimum 70% and use creative online marketing to promote the business.

OK I can imagine some of you are wondering which planet this guy is living on but I believe it is eminently doable if the will is there.

P.S. I am available as a consultant trainer.Thanks for these reports. I will avoid that place during my next visit.

Zam007
09-20-19, 12:46
Apple of Mango was the hot hardcore superstar of her day and, arguably, the farang community's favourite squeeze. Though currently resting on its laurels, the shop's reputation was built on providers like her. Other names also spring to mind.

I never actually took Apple because I had already taken her equally hot younger sister Cherry who needed more encouragement (though not much more) and was easier to book.

I was a bit naive in those days. If the opportunity arose now, I would book the sisters as a pair and arrange them so that each could use the other as bolster pillow in some of the most delightfully ungraceful positions conceived by man.

In 2019, I would crawl naked over broken glass to find any slim, pretty girl capable of recreating that feeling. I know that they are still out there somewhere but finding them through trial and error is time consuming and I've not had much luck recently in the farang-orientated shops.

Where did all the superstars go?Have you seen Nancy or Vanda?

Crocodilexp
09-20-19, 23:52
Have you seen Nancy or Vanda?

Vanda (at Mango) is beautiful, but not a great performer. She's nice and gentle, and not a waste of money, but don't expect anything close to a PSE.

I've seen Vanda once, did my 2 shots, and would probably repeat since I dig her looks and there haven't been any major turnoffs service-wise, but I'd recommend her only if you're into her looks.

Vrsabien
09-21-19, 00:58
Vanda (at Mango) is beautiful, but not a great performer. She's nice and gentle, and not a waste of money, but don't expect anything close to a PSE.

I've seen Vanda once, did my 2 shots, and would probably repeat since I dig her looks and there haven't been any major turnoffs service-wise, but I'd recommend her only if you're into her looks.What about Ice, Amm, Moya and new girl Sara who apparently does A+ ?

Previously I asked about Ice as looks very pretty but I asked for girl without baby damage / scar, they simply replied saying Ice had a baby which I assume they meant to tell me she has baby scar / damage?

Zam007
09-21-19, 05:30
Vanda (at Mango) is beautiful, but not a great performer. She's nice and gentle, and not a waste of money, but don't expect anything close to a PSE.

I've seen Vanda once, did my 2 shots, and would probably repeat since I dig her looks and there haven't been any major turnoffs service-wise, but I'd recommend her only if you're into her looks.Thanks for the reply. I am mostly into looks and I like to take it slow and gentle.

Just one more question, if you don't mind.

Does she do rimming?

Kirsia123
09-21-19, 06:37
Fellow mongers,

I am raising a question that to some degree have been answered and I have RTFF.

I am looking for two girls to bring to my hotel room for a wild MFF threesome.

Some of the things I want to try are:

- fuck one of them in the ass whilst the other girls is rimming me.

- have the two ladies doing 69, I can alternate between fucking one in the ass doggy style and the other girl in the pussy. In between I will mouth fuck both of them.

- have one girl on her back, when I fuck her the other girl should lick her clit. This is a position I want to finish in, coming in her mouth and on the second ladies pussy.

So which two girls would you recommend I pull from any of the MP in BKK?

Feel free to PM or respond to this thread in the Forum.

Your advice is much appreciated!

/ Kirsia.

Syzygies
09-21-19, 07:06
- have the two ladies doing 69, I can alternate between fucking one in the ass doggy style and the other girl in the pussy. In between I will mouth fuck both of them.
Ha ha, sounds like you did not factor in a regular change of condoms, when switching girls, or switching from ass to other holes.

Eden has threesomes working to a script, but it tends to be their script more so than yours I think. Not really a Massage Parlour. They do have anal girls there. Pretty girls not sure?

Maybe someone will know exactly which 2 girls, but its a tall order (tough requirements).

Syzygies
09-21-19, 07:18
Thanks for the reply. I am mostly into looks and I like to take it slow and gentle.

Just one more question, if you don't mind.

Does she do rimming?http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/ladies/

I picked no one at my last visit, even though have done Prae and Amm before (they are maybe not that slim these days anyway just not hot enough looking). Not sure if prettier ones were in the line up. Which girl is good looking is not easy to say, and depends on personal preference. Vanda pics do look nice enough (maybe not quite my spec). I prefer Jenny and Sara (despite surgeries) for the web pics but they may be deceiving.

Thai Language has no V sound, so likely to be pronounced more like Wanda (close to Wonder maybe). Makes me think of porn star Harmony Wonder who happened to look similar to one of my old Crazy House regular girls.

Zam007
09-21-19, 07:53
http://www.mangomassagebkk.com/ladies/

I picked no one at my last visit, even though have done Prae and Amm before (they are maybe not that slim these days anyway just not hot enough looking). Not sure if prettier ones were in the line up. Which girl is good looking is not easy to say, and depends on personal preference. Vanda pics do look nice enough (maybe not quite my spec). I prefer Jenny and Sara (despite surgeries) for the web pics but they may be deceiving.

Thai Language has no V sound, so likely to be pronounced more like Wanda (close to Wonder maybe). Makes me think of porn star Harmony Wonder who happened to look similar to one of my old Crazy House regular girls.From the countless posts you have made, I can clearly understand what you are looking for.

My preferences are first the face, rest comes second. If she's not pretty, my erections won't last long, I wouldn't even mind if the girl says COB. I also don't mind if the girl is on the curvier side as long as they are not too fat. I do like some thick chicks. I don't mind bolt-ONS or nose jobs as long as they look. I knew one girl in 102 in 2017, she was a bit thick but we clicked. She just had the right amount everywhere. Things steamed so hot that I popped three times in two hours. I know that nowadays they won't allow anything more than 90 minutes. My 3rd pop happened after we finished 2 hours 10 minute mark. Unlike the girls in Addict who would be nervous at this point, she took it cool and managed it downstairs. But not girls are like that in Club 102.

I will go to mango and check out Nancy and Vanda and report. But before that, I would like to finish my appointments.

Syzygies
09-21-19, 08:34
My preferences are first the face, rest comes second. If she's not pretty, my erections won't last long, I wouldn't even mind if the girl says COB. I fully concur with that. However bad body can make my dick go down equally well unless pussy is feeling exquisite etc. I did branch out and do a somewhat puffy girl "Beauty" (less than fat. Thighs not too big) at Snow White recently because I liked the expression on her face which was beaming / laughing etc. I don't like to be serious in a sex session. Should be fun.

I make plenty of exceptions from my ideal spec these days. I can forgive some faults in a girl. No one is perfect, but there have to limits especially for the face. I cannot fuck ugly faced girls, or girls reminiscent of ladyboys (masculine or too much surgery), and my other rule is to think of my girlfriends face and body first, which is pretty good at age 39. Then ask myself, do I still want to fuck this girl? Is she good enough to be exciting? When considering repeat, I think if service was better than the girlfriend (who is a bit lazy on the bed).

Has occurred I found not so slim girls appealing recently if they have a really good face (and preferably all natural). I agree that Club 102 has a few good possibles. Unfortunately last time, the best looker there did not want to look at me, which suggested she did not want me to pick her, I think, certainly a risk. I should have considered some others. For my eye, the Club 102 line up is definitely a lot better than last year. So it is coming up in the world as a shop well worth a look, even the Farang guy does not appeal tome. No problem.

Years ago did a very enthusiastic famous girl at Mango, yet her face and body was just too so-so for me to ever repeat. Not hot! I could understand others liked her service though.

Zam007
09-21-19, 09:15
I fully concur with that. However bad body can make my dick go down equally well unless pussy is feeling exquisite etc. I did branch out and do a somewhat puffy girl "Beauty" (less than fat. Thighs not too big) at Snow White recently because I liked the expression on her face which was beaming / laughing etc. I don't like to be serious in a sex session. Should be fun.

I make plenty of exceptions from my ideal spec these days. I can forgive some faults in a girl. No one is perfect, but there have to limits especially for the face. I cannot fuck ugly faced girls, or girls reminiscent of ladyboys (masculine or too much surgery), and my other rule is to think of my girlfriends face and body first, which is pretty good at age 39. Then ask myself, do I still want to fuck this girl? Is she good enough to be exciting? When considering repeat, I think if service was better than the girlfriend (who is a bit lazy on the bed).

Has occurred I found not so slim girls appealing recently if they have a really good face (and preferably all natural). I agree that Club 102 has a few good possibles. Unfortunately last time, the best looker there did not want to look at me, which suggested she did not want me to pick her, I think, certainly a risk. I should have considered some others. For my eye, the Club 102 line up is definitely a lot better than last year. So it is coming up in the world as a shop well worth a look, even the Farang guy does not appeal tome. No problem.

Years ago did a very enthusiastic famous girl at Mango, yet her face and body was just too so-so for me to ever repeat. Not hot! I could understand others liked her service though.Was the girl from SW Kibsy? I am interested in her report. The only reason I would like to go to SW is for A-Level.

Club 102 can be a hit or miss at times. From what I understand the girls seem to be waiting for their Asian prince. It's packed with Asian tourists. I've seen a pack of 10 men come in as a group and almost everyone choosing a girl, the ones which didn't find anyone appealing left to nearby shops. It appears that, unlike Addict, nobody forces them to smile. In addict, regardless of a girl liking you or not, she usually fakes. It could sometimes be a good thing, she might be a bit moody or she wants some rest, so it's a sign not to waste your time. I learnt it the hard way from Addict. I think it was Cheer who I picked, later on I learnt that I was her 6th customer. I cut short the 90 minute session to less than 30 and left. I didn't say anything to mamasan, just didn't want to be another person to ruin her day. These things happen.

There was once I saw a girl in Club 102, she never looked at me, I chose her, I was stubborn to make her like me, and in the end, she warmed up very well in 20 minutes and we had a good time. I don't remember her name. She claimed to be 22, but I am sure she was late 20's or early 30's. But her face and body was perfect. And there were times when pretty girls smiled like crazy at me and in the end it was a disaster. All a part of the game I guess.

Syzygies
09-21-19, 11:26
Was the girl from SW Kibsy? I am interested in her report. The only reason I would like to go to SW is for A-Level..No was "Beauty". A Newbie. Her pussy was so nice I had no thoughts for anal at all. So my purpose was not for anal at all. I may consider it, especially if pussy is not nice. First purpose is to get sex a bit full on, 2nd is price. Deep throat would be a bonus but did not get that. Did get a CIM.

Name Kibsy has me stumped. No idea how to pronounce. Thought of Gypsy but Thai word for that is Yipsee. So clearly not relevant.




Club 102 can be a hit or miss at times. From what I understand the girls seem to be waiting for their Asian prince. It's packed with Asian tourists. I've seen a pack of 10 men come in as a group and almost everyone choosing a girl, the ones which didn't find anyone appealing left to nearby shops. It appears that, unlike Addict, nobody forces them to smile. In addict, regardless of a girl liking you or not, she usually fakes. It could sometimes be a good thing, she might be a bit moody or she wants some rest, so it's a sign not to waste your time. I learnt it the hard way from Addict. I think it was Cheer who I picked, later on I learnt that I was her 6th customer. I cut short the 90 minute session to less than 30 and left. I didn't say anything to mamasan, just didn't want to be another person to ruin her day. These things happen.
..Yes that can happen. Never wise to be late in the day at an MP, IMHO. I once had a super shit session with Vodkha (in Cherry MP perhaps? I forget) who was quite famous, but she just mucked around in the session like aimlessly. I concluded she was probably "Fucked out".



There was once I saw a girl in Club 102, she never looked at me, I chose her, I was stubborn to make her like me, and in the end, she warmed up very well in 20 minutes and we had a good time. I don't remember her name. She claimed to be 22, but I am sure she was late 20's or early 30's. But her face and body was perfect. And there were times when pretty girls smiled like crazy at me and in the end it was a disaster. All a part of the game I guess.Ha ha. Probably same one (looking for her Asian prince). Definitely a stand out for face (particularly) and body. Seems like you are encouraging me to go back and give her a try anyway and maybe she can warm to my easy going nature. Will be a disaster if she is dick scared though. I prefer if girls are okay To kiss and take DATY. I find that 98% of girls are fine with DATY unless scared of getting turned on.

Over the years I had some wonderful soapy sessions with chatty and fun girls used to Asian customers, until time came to put the dick in. Then they would freeze up or stiffen up the legs, making sex very difficult indeed.

Zam007
09-21-19, 12:27
No was "Beauty". A Newbie. Her pussy was so nice I had no thoughts for anal at all. So my purpose was not for anal at all. I may consider it, especially if pussy is not nice. First purpose is to get sex a bit full on, 2nd is price. Deep throat would be a bonus but did not get that. Did get a CIM.

Name Kibsy has me stumped. No idea how to pronounce. Thought of Gypsy but Thai word for that is Yipsee. So clearly not relevant.
Actually, it doesn't matter what her name is. I once took a girl from 102 Named Ice cream who is now a star among Asian Customers.



Yes that can happen. Never wise to be late in the day at an MP, IMHO. I once had a super shit session with Vodkha (in Cherry MP perhaps? I forget) who was quite famous, but she just mucked around in the session like aimlessly. I concluded she was probably "Fucked out". I was a bit late. I think this happened after I had a bad session in Dream Heaven, and I was looking to make up for it! Shit got worse. !



Ha ha. Probably same one (looking for her Asian prince). Definitely a stand out for face (particularly) and body. Seems like you are encouraging me to go back and give her a try anyway and maybe she can warm to my easy going nature. Will be a disaster if she is dick scared though. I prefer if girls are okay To kiss and take DATY. I find that 98% of girls are fine with DATY unless scared of getting turned on.

Over the years I had some wonderful soapy sessions with chatty and fun girls used to Asian customers, until time came to put the dick in. Then they would freeze up or stiffen up the legs, making sex very difficult indeed.I usually give them a small tip and tease them with more at the end. It works for me. I know, its a bit of a cheat code, but I just don't care as long as we have a good time.

Syzygies
09-21-19, 12:45
I usually give them a small tip and tease them with more at the end. It works for me. I know, its a bit of a cheat code, but I just don't care as long as we have a good time."A small tip"? Tip of the dick or money? Money I guess. I hate to tip before receiving the service.

For the dick, yes I am prepared to put in just a little bit at the start till she gets relaxed and stretched. I think you did not mean that though.

After a shit massage, I would probably fall back to girls on Soi 4, that are very cheap, so a mistake can be simply followed by picking another one, until get satisfaction. Don't want too many expensive mistakes in a row. Ha ha.

When I got a trickster / scamming useless girl from Rainbow 2 on her period, I found a Soi 4 girl for fall back and she turned out to be really great. So that day I got both unlucky and lucky. Thank god I refuses to pay bar mamasan full fuck fee in advance. The girl refused to fuck or even get her pants off, instead wanting to get my dick out (maybe to try to blow me). I did check out her panties and had blood stained quite dark pad for last remnants of her period. So period was true sort of but nearly finished.

No fuck, so she did not get paid, other than I paid for her to eat something from KFC or Maccas near to Nana maybe. Latter that evening the Soi 4 street girl was good and became a regular. Might go do her tonight if she is there. Great GFE.

Snow White ought to be a good fall back place. One assumes they should not have too many completely dud girls for service.

Zam007
09-21-19, 16:34
"A small tip"? Tip of the dick or money? Money I guess. I hate to tip before receiving the service.

For the dick, yes I am prepared to put in just a little bit at the start till she gets relaxed and stretched. I think you did not mean that though.

After a shit massage, I would probably fall back to girls on Soi 4, that are very cheap, so a mistake can be simply followed by picking another one, until get satisfaction. Don't want too many expensive mistakes in a row. Ha ha.

When I got a trickster / scamming useless girl from Rainbow 2 on her period, I found a Soi 4 girl for fall back and she turned out to be really great. So that day I got both unlucky and lucky. Thank god I refuses to pay bar mamasan full fuck fee in advance. The girl refused to fuck or even get her pants off, instead wanting to get my dick out (maybe to try to blow me). I did check out her panties and had blood stained quite dark pad for last remnants of her period. So period was true sort of but nearly finished.

No fuck, so she did not get paid, other than I paid for her to eat something from KFC or Maccas near to Nana maybe. Latter that evening the Soi 4 street girl was good and became a regular. Might go do her tonight if she is there. Great GFE.

Snow White ought to be a good fall back place. One assumes they should not have too many completely dud girls for service.I did not understand what you mean by tip of the dick money! Sorry, if you see the number of posts I have made, you know I am relatively new to these things.

Its that gut feeling I get when I see some girls, maybe a 200 TBH will loosen her up a bit, and if she turns out to be good, I may give her another 300-1000. There were some girls who deserved it.

So far, I have been right. I am nervous to pick girls from go go bars or freelancers. I saw one cute freelancer in Soi 4, sort of girl I would pick if she were presented in a line up. She gave me all the right signals but I just smiled back at her and walked past, later when I was back on flight, I saw an air-hostess who reminded me of her. I got to get over this nervousness.

I have successfully picked up regular girls when I visited Prague and Budapest or even Milan, but I am kinda nervous to pick up hookers from the street.

Whoreman
09-21-19, 18:30
Vanda (at Mango) is beautiful, but not a great performer. She's nice and gentle, and not a waste of money, but don't expect anything close to a PSE.

I've seen Vanda once, did my 2 shots, and would probably repeat since I dig her looks and there haven't been any major turnoffs service-wise, but I'd recommend her only if you're into her looks.She has a nice face but does she have a body to match? Or is she just another MILF?

Syzygies
09-21-19, 21:04
I did not understand what you mean by tip of the dick money! Sorry, if you see the number of posts I have made, you know I am relatively new to these things.

Its that gut feeling I get when I see some girls, maybe a 200 TBH will loosen her up a bit, and if she turns out to be good, I may give her another 300-1000. There were some girls who deserved it.

On the contrary, I did not understand what you had written about "usually giving her a small tip" beforehand. So I asked if that meant "tip of the dick" or meant "(tip) money". Semi joking but I was confused. It did not really compute that someone would tip money up front, before getting anything from the girl. I mean she could be shit for all you know. You have already paid downstairs I think.

Never heard of an extra tip beforehand. I suppose the tip could be verbally promised in case she delivers something we request.

So not "tip of the dick money" at all. Tip of dick, OR tip money. Searching for the meaning. It is dangerous to say how much you tipped a girl on this forum. The "price police" will be after you. It easier not to mention tipping, or not state how much.

I am actually a believer that girls should not all be paid exactly the same. It can be varied by how much she deserves, based on her effort, her looks quality, how hard I made her work etc. Thus it is always a good sign with bar girls if they have not stated a price, because then I feel free to vary the amount somewhat based on what she deserves.

Girls that put too much emphasis on the price, e.g. mentioning it too many times beforehand, tend to be risky, because you immediately get the feel that they have asked for more than what they will probably deserve.

AssLover945
09-22-19, 03:14
Vanda (at Mango) is beautiful, but not a great performer. She's nice and gentle, and not a waste of money, but don't expect anything close to a PSE.

I've seen Vanda once, did my 2 shots, and would probably repeat since I dig her looks and there haven't been any major turnoffs service-wise, but I'd recommend her only if you're into her looks.Yes I concur Vanda is not PSE at all.

She is a lovely girl though.

AssLover945
09-22-19, 03:27
Fellow mongers,

I am raising a question that to some degree have been answered and I have RTFF.

I am looking for two girls to bring to my hotel room for a wild MFF threesome.

Some of the things I want to try are:

- fuck one of them in the ass whilst the other girls is rimming me.

- have the two ladies doing 69, I can alternate between fucking one in the ass doggy style and the other girl in the pussy. In between I will mouth fuck both of them.

- have one girl on her back, when I fuck her the other girl should lick her clit. This is a position I want to finish in, coming in her mouth and on the second ladies pussy.

So which two girls would you recommend I pull from any of the MP in BKK?

Feel free to PM or respond to this thread in the Forum.

Your advice is much appreciated!

/ Kirsia.Ohh Boy.

We got a pornstar here!!

Seems like you are thinking of going bareback while fucking all the 6 holes with your 2 dreamgirls.

I don't think anyone in any oily would agree to those unless you agree to change rubber during alternating.

Some older girls (read desperate) may do it, but licking another girls pussy may be out of scope.

Your best bet maybe some ladies from Tulip.

Whatever be your experience do not forget to report here dude.

AL.

AssLover945
09-22-19, 04:08
Can anyone help identify this massage shop / oily?

I have been chatting with this girl from LINE.

She claims to be a normal office girl, but from the pics I feel definitely she is a working girl.

This shop / oily seems to have a purple fence and the mirror frame seems to have ceramic tile frame.

Hope some bro can help remember the shop from the background of these 2 images attached.

Syzygies
09-22-19, 08:11
This shop / oily seems to have a purple fence and the mirror frame seems to have ceramic tile frame.

Hope some bro can help remember the shop from the background of these 2 images attached.Ha ha. Royal Purple is one of my Mrs favourite colours, so that she wanted the house painted that colour. We don't have picket fence though.

Pretty face girl. Strangely narrow below the waist. Maybe the pic is not showing her realistically.
Can the heavily shopped blonde be the same girl?

Paolo99
09-22-19, 08:58
Can anyone help identify this massage shop / oily?

I have been chatting with this girl from LINE.

She claims to be a normal office girl, but from the pics I feel definitely she is a working girl.

This shop / oily seems to have a purple fence and the mirror frame seems to have ceramic tile frame.

Hope some bro can help remember the shop from the background of these 2 images attached.It's the "Thanks massage shop" , located on soi 33, I think it's just in front of 7 heaven BJ shop in the same street.

It's one of my favorite oilies in Bkk, a sister shop of Pretty massage in Thonglor.

I go there at least ones in every visit I make in Bkk.

The girls available here are the same that in Pretty massage.

That girl is Nicky. I wanted to fuck her in my next visit,(just because I know she can takes it up the ass), hopefully you'll fuck her before I arrive and post a report of her.

The pic with the blonde hair was her pic from 2 years ago, she is probably more like the pic on the left now, she looks a bit chubby though. She was abroad last time I was there so I couldn't meet her.

Tell us a bit more about Vanda in Mango please, she looks very cute. Do you know which day she is off, and what time she usually starts her shift?

Kirsia123
09-22-19, 15:42
I will not go BB.

I will certainly report back if get this threesome done.

/ Kirsia.


Ohh Boy.

We got a pornstar here!!

Seems like you are thinking of going bareback while fucking all the 6 holes with your 2 dreamgirls.

I don't think anyone in any oily would agree to those unless you agree to change rubber during alternating.

Some older girls (read desperate) may do it, but licking another girls pussy may be out of scope.

Your best bet maybe some ladies from Tulip.

Whatever be your experience do not forget to report here dude.

AL.

Vrsabien
09-22-19, 16:54
I will not go BB.

I will certainly report back if get this threesome done.

/ Kirsia.There was a time when cherry massage would be a close call to what you want, so you might try them. Just be prepared for some big girls as they have less skinny girls now.

Whoreman
09-22-19, 22:12
It's the "Thanks massage shop" , located on soi 33, I think it's just in front of 7 heaven BJ shop in the same street.

It's one of my favorite oilies in Bkk, a sister shop of Pretty massage in Thonglor.

I go there at least ones in every visit I make in Bkk.

The girls available here are the same that in Pretty massage.

That girl is Nicky. I wanted to fuck her in my next visit,(just because I know she can takes it up the ass), hopefully you'll fuck her before I arrive and post a report of her.

Good intel. Her she is:

http://thanksmassage.com/index.php/girls/2019/08/02/695/

I didn't know there were pretty girls on soi 33 who take it up the arse. What's the catch? I feel like giving her a try myself but I'm worried about horror show stretch marks or something.

Is she more likely to be found in Thanks or Pretty? Pretty is very convenient for the BTS.

http://bangkokprettymassage.com/girls/nicky/

Paolo99
09-22-19, 23:05
I didn't know there were pretty girls on soi 33 who take it up the arse. What's the catch? I feel like giving her a try myself but I'm worried about horror show stretch marks or something.

Is she more likely to be found in Thanks or Pretty? Pretty is very convenient for the BTS.

http://bangkokprettymassage.com/girls/nicky/I'm not sure if she is pretty in real and don't think that she will advertise herself that she does A+.

I know it because I wanted to fuck another girl's ass there and she didn't let me do it but told me there's only one girl in that shop that does it but she was abroad (Malaysia) at that time.

I doubt that she will have stretch marks, I've done many girls there and none had stretch marks, I think it was part of the policy of the owner, to not take girls that have baby.

But service wise it's a lot hit and miss, I found real gems there (GFE, not much pse I think) but I also wasted some time and money with a few real shitty girls.

But I think Nicky can give a good service if she feels relax with you because she is in that business for a few years already (I think her pic first came around 2016, but I could never catch her up during my visits).

I think she'll be more likely to be found in soi 33, but you can go in Thonglor and ask them to send her there.

Rooms and ambiance is better in soi 33 too in my opinion (and the shop is not located far from Suk).