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Valmont
We'll send you detailed route description in a few days - when we get time to write it out for you
Hope to see you while we're at World in February
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Start at Kaiserslautern in A63 direction Mainz ~ 65 km.
At junction Mainz-Sued change to A6 direction Darmstadt/Frankfurt ~ 20 km.
At junction Moenchhof-Dreieck change to A3, direction Frankfurt ~ 10 km.
At junction Frankfurter Kreuz change to A5, direction Kassel ~ 60 km.
Leave A5 at exit Fernwald.
At the exit turn right. Next possibility left, at the next crossing turn right. At the traffic light turn left. Next possibility right, then again right towards a sporting field. Stay on this street, passing a railway junction. Now you can see FKK-World left hand. ~ 10 km.
Total distance approx. 165 km. expect heavy traffic at Mainz and from Frankfurt northwards. Calculate 2 hours per tour at least.
And, of course,
have fun!
Novize
Justwatching
01-12-05, 21:35
Brothel gives profits to tsunami victims
A real-life case of the hooker with a heart of gold.
January 12, 2005: 2:34 PM EST
BERLIN (Reuters) - A German brothel owner has been so moved by the plight of survivors from Asia's tsunami disaster that she is donating part of her takings from clients.
"It's not every day you can make a charitable gesture by going to a brothel," said Mercedes Mueller, who is giving five euros ($6.60) of the 39 ($51) entrance charge clients pay.
"It's so terrible what happened there and I wanted to do something," said Mueller, who owns the Happy FKK Club in the western city of Dortmund.
Mueller said clients, prostitutes and the public had all responded with great enthusiasm to her gesture, and that about 1,300 ($1,700) had been raised so far.
"We have as much of a right to raise money as any other business," she said. "We all have a heart too. I hope it will serve as an example to others."
Trojan_tds
01-15-05, 13:44
I had the privilege of spending a half hour with Andrea last night and I must say she was by far the best experience I have ever had with a European working girl. I have been with a few Brazilians and Thais I enjoyed more, but she was a very close second.
She had an excellent attitude the entire time we were together, starting when she first approached me through to our post coital talk. But by far what impressed me the most was the sex. True GFE throughout. She seemed to truly enjoy our time together. In fact I was very shocked when I discovered she was already very wet when I started to finger her as she was blowing me in the Kino. This condition continued throughout our time together, with her never needing to use artificial lubrication. Just the thought of this was a real turn on for me.
I will absolutely be a return customer and would encourage everyone to give her a try. You will not be disappointed!!
Trojan
We (Cordelia and Shiatsu) plan to be around World from 11 to 19 Feb inclusive. If anybody is coming to World then we'd be pleased to see you. PM with your e-mail and we will send you pix of us so you can recognise us
Some wsg members know from the Beverly posts that Cordelia enjoys participating and meeting especially wsg members. So she has decided to have a one-off adventure working (yes, working) the days at World. Never done anything like this before so it should be interesting! It should allow for a less frenetic and more intimate experience than Beverly (which we still think is great).
Shiatsu will not be around all the time - nine days at World would be too much of a good thing!!
Cordelia and Shiatsu
Just to add to the previous post, we're looking forward to meeting all the wsg members who will be around in this time.Thanks for the PMs. Should be a bit of a party!
Shiatsu and Cordelia
I picture Shiatsu standing next to Cordelia at the lockers where the men pay. Some guy hands Cordelia 50€ and she passes it on to Shiatsu to go have fun!
Peter
Cheeky!!! We enjoyed meeting you at Beverly. Hope to meet you again sometime. Cordelia will be looking after herself - having fun- my role is to try to avoid spending my own hard-earned money. I think Cordelia will be too busy to entertain me!! Should be an interesting holiday...
Shiatsu
Of course now we know why WSG has been such a nightmare the past week or so. It's all the WSG-members blocking the server with PMs to Shiatsu trying to get marked onto Cordelia's card.
Euro Wanderer
02-09-05, 08:57
How would one recognize the lovely Cordelia?
I picture Shiatsu standing next to Cordelia at the lockers where the men pay. Some guy hands Cordelia 50€ and she passes it on to Shiatsu to go have fun!
PeterMight as well pay directly to Shiatsu! (Boy, wouldn't that be an awkward moment! :/
Looking forward to perhaps hearing about Cordelia's experiences working at World, that would be interesting to hear about a typical day at World from a ladies perspective, how they feel, how they are treated, what they like from us men etc.
How would one recognize the lovely Cordelia?She´ll be the one great woman men are standing for in line while the known TopActs at FKKW will hang around at the bar without any work.
How would one recognize the lovely Cordelia?She´ll be the one great woman men are standing for in line while the known TopActs at FKKW will hang around at the bar without any work.
Went to World on Friday, the 11th. I got there around 12:30 (not realizing that it would take me over 2 1/2 hours in my car, thanks to it being what we call in the states a POS) and took in the sites. A friendly girl named Betty (Cuban, petite) showed me around and I settled in. I met Shiatsu and Cordelia, who were just as nice as they appear to be on the board.
My first session was with a short blonde girl with a nice body (D cup at least) who wore glasses named Janet. She said she was from Germany. Before we went to the session, she was incredibly nice, very personable despite her limited English. But then we got into the room, and it turned into one of the most mechanical sessions I've ever had. Her obvious request for a tip was almost laughable. It's a shame such a nice girl has such poor service.
Then I sat around and waited for the meal and the night crew. Shiatsu informed me of the bad news that Andrea wouldn't be there that night, so I still have no idea who she is. Finally, after eating a nice meal of noodles with meat and red sauce, I sat down on one of the black couches in the main room to rest and relax. Within 20 minutes, 5 girls approached me asking if I wanted a session. It got a little frustrating so when number 6 came by, Georgia from Romania, I was a little rude. She called me on it in perfect English, then proceeded to have one of the nicest conversations with me I've had in a long time. I had a long, extended, passionate session with her that ranks her as one of my favorite girls I've met in an FKK. She is outstanding. She is medium height, short brown hair that she was wearing up in tiny ponytail, with natural B cups. No tats. Give her a look, guys.
My first trip to World was good and the only real complaints I had was that, in contrast to Palace, the lighting is horrible. It's almost too dark to distinguish one girl from another. And, I know this is small, but the stools at the bar, where I like to sit, were terribly uncomfortable. At Palace, the stools are sturdy and have backs so you can lean and rest. At World, it's an effort to just sit there. It's as if they use those to encourage you to sit on the couches and get approached. But as I said, these are small, trivial things that do not take away from the allure of the place, it's outstanding facilities, and the beautiful women.
From Cordelia - I'll do very short messages in case the forum crashes while i'm in the middle- Forgive if the style is rushed but am in internet cafe
After four days I realised the main feature of a girl's day was waiting. On my first day there were only 20 men in 10 hours. It was after Karneval and was about the quietest day ever. I got one man which as there were over 40 girls was quite good. Do the arithmetic.
Next day was Saturday and was a lot busier after about 16.00 - but that meant about 6 hours waiting before many men turned up. I lost my concentration and didn't do so well
Sunday was no busier but I had a good day - working from 14.00 until 24.00, pleased to be just about the busiest woman that day.
Monday was as quiet as the Friday. I had a nasty man which again I let throw my concentration
On the quiet days being in the one room for hours with almost no men coming in affects all the girls - we all watched the clock creep round., listening the Schnappi song (!) and the fourth loop of the same porn film .....
I admire the girls for being able to stick it --- all come back to their task in hand
Cordelia says, thé first things I get asked are, Do the girls talk about the men and are they bitchy?
The answer is NO. The girls were all incredibly supportive and freindly with each other. There is competition but no jealousy or rivalry. No doubt there is friction from time to time and arguments but this was not the norm. The large Rumanian contingent tend to remain a bit together but I was made to feel very welcome. One of the busiest girls gave me tips on how to close a deal, otheres said nice things like "I hope I am like you when i am older" and there was much talk about my piercings etc. The comradeship was very positive.
The girls tend not to talk about the men. What happens in the rooms tends to stay there. The girls feel that if there is a bad session it reflects on them. There is not taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of men (apart from on on eoccasion when monkey noises were made behind a man's back because he had been horrible in public to a girl) (btw - he was white and German) However if he had turned round the girl would have been all smiles and giggles
Cordelia says
About 25% of men seemed to be lovely, and about the same were nasty. The rest seem ok.
I'll talk about the bad. What this means is they are rude and rough and treat the girls like pieces of meat to be thrown around in a room or a corridor. They can also be smelly and i mean seriously smelly. This is almost the only reason that girls will turn down a man (unless he is a complete violent nutter). As mentioned in the foum before some men will interprete this as racism but it's not - if you stink don't expect to be fucked or at least not to have oral without a condom
One man pushed a girl so hard in the corridor I had to pick her up
I only had one bad experience. The man demanded that I NOT use a condom and that I should let him come in my mouth for nothing. When I refused he was very badtempered and rough. basically he was a shit but I got his 50 Euros. He was stupid - he had a bad time when he could have had a good time
The good. The girls appreciate a man who is a bit sensitive and pleasant (obviously this is a generalisation) Apart from my one bad man everybody was very nice in the room to me. And a few were very very good at sex - (you mongers know who you are!!) so it made the day worth while
Cordelia says - it became obvious to me that what is sold is not sex but a presentation package. The girls spend a fortune on makeup and spend hours making up their package of appearances. The sex is irrelevant for most of them. And very few of them are really any good at sex (says Shiatsu). The 50E buys a picture and fantasy.
I had trouble working out how to sell - my ability is in the sex- On he Saturday it baffled me completely, by Sunday I understood the selling to a degree - basically it is to look at the man from a foot away and imediately make him think that every breath he takes is a wonder of nature, making google eyes and stroking. I was never very good at that.
However when i sold my package and the men came to unwrap it things went very well. generally the sex was good and some german FKK regulars said I was the best sex they had ever had. this is the other way of selling - building up a reputation but of course I did not have time to do that
I enjoyed much of my time at World. Good friends from girls, admiration from girls, some good sex. All the staff were very kind. The atmosphere was really nice for me. And all I did was walk up and start work. I' m doing short reports in case the forum crashes in the middle of one.
I found out it is hard work to be selling all day. The sex is easy but the mental demand of selling was a different matter. In addition my feet hurt and many girls have bad backs from too much sex by men pulling them about (not nastily but sex is an energetic activity). It's hard work mentally and physically. The girls who do best are those who hae apositive target (a shop a businesse etc).
I found it beginning to get addictive even after only four days. This reflects the level of commitment necessary for the selling. I didn't have a lot of confidence in my package as I was much older than the norm. But I got a lot of good feedback from the men who went with me and from the girls. However I did not have enough of a commitment to make the tedium of waiting for the few men to turn up worthwhile (World suffers from its location in winter)
I enjoyed meeting the mongers. Sunday was an especially lovely day with four there at once
Shiatsu says.
World was incredibly quiet and the girls were very bored. They were very nice and helpful and the staff were extremely welcoming. A nice atmosphere
As always it is a good place to relax. There does not seem to be any enthusiasm for couch action and the prevailing ehtos seems to be that halfhour is up the second the man comes - even if it is only after five minutes.
I went with Magda,(Rumanian). I had always thought of her as inapproachable but I met her downstairs after Novize had worked his flirting charms on her and I found she was articulate, opinionated, and entertaining. We agreed to have sex in the washing machine (ok Magda is a bit off the wall) but went to a room instead where we talked for 20 minutes about his and that and then decided that we had better have sex. She wiggled very effectively and I ended a nice session (what I didn`t know was that Cordelia was in the next room and heard the whole session!!!!) I liked Magda. She has a very lovely body, is friendly, is very flexible and does her job conscientiously. She gave me the whole halfhour.
I went with Julia (also Rumanian) not the tall one but the shorter very blonde on with tits which bounce as she walks across the room. She was very friendly, she like being licked (pronouncing that I was a good licker!!) and fucked with some interest. However after I came she got up and started to leave - 20 minutes so I consider this to be shortchange. I notice this is very common So I would not go back with her even tho she is very nice and I had a good session)
I feel that some girls are in danger of losing some of the key features of a FKK - the guarantee of a halfhour and the willingness for five minutes chat on a couch first or after. However many girls are willing to talk and commit to a bit more so i don`want to give the impression that there is a big problem. Just be aware that some girls give more than others and that to some extent you can tell by watching.
Cordelia,
I found myself engrossed when I read your series of short posts below. In fact, having read (and indeed scribed) dozens of reports, I don't think I have ever read one with your unique perspective. I wish you could write more and more. Too bad you don't have the opportunity to do more such "research" and publish a book.
It was most interesting to read a bit about the girls' reaction to you (generally supportive and positive) and to read your take on the men: The Good, the Bad and the Smelly! These and other points you make are invaluable.
The one thing I would specifically ask you to expand on is your mention of certain girls giving you tips on "closing the deal." I am really interested to hear what advice you were given. However, I also respect that maybe you wish these and/or other details not to be published in the public domain. But if there are no restrictions, please do expand on this when you have time.
Also, I am a naturally sensitive and caring person...comes with being a Cancer, I guess? Anyway, it was most gratifying to read that, from your perspective, at least, such qualities in a man/client are appreciated by the girls. Although, in some of my past experiences I really do wonder if that is the case, I mean there are some really cold fish out there. But this all has a lot to do with individual chemistry perhaps, so an experienced FKKer should be able to decipher whether a potential session partner (a girl) would be receptive to softness in a man and sensitivity...
Thanks again for some truly fascinating reading,
Ortos
Ortos
Thanks very much. Again a short message since we're worried the site will crash so forgive a rushed reply
Closing the deal - basically a successful girl told me thateverything depends on attitude. Ugly women can get customers provided they make the men feel special. The important thing is to make the man think he is important to the girl and is clever and lovely. Obviously this is an illusion which is being sold - but nonetheless the girls will always prefer a man who is genuinely pleasant and considerate. The second element was to get in touch with the men physically - "get out there and grab them". From this you'll see that many girls don't have the mental concentration keep going all day. Women need to sell their package.
I was surprised that charm and chat aren't really important in making first contact for most men. Most men wanted the wrappings and not any personal contact. However there were exceptions - and these were also oddly enough the men who were most interested in real sex
I was amazed how rude a few of the men were - this explains perhaps why some women don!t approach men - it is bad to talk to a man only to be told "you are only talking to me because you want my money - other girls really care and love me" - (Shiatsu says a man like that must be an absolute fool and thick)
However, bear in mind this is my experience and that some girls are as cold as ice whatever their smile may claim and that really only care about the money. So it's always a difficult call on both sides - one can never tell whether a man or a working woman are going to be ice cold until it's too late. And of course it will vary also according to the ethos of the club
I gave up after four days - I didn't have the mental discipline and confidence to approach men for 12 hours plus a day. I hadn't realised how tough it could be (especially as it was my holiday!!)
Cordelia
I had a couple of quick questions:
Can someone here tell me about hotels near FKKW that are moderately priced (Euro 40-60 range)
Do any of the girls from FKKW do Incalls (in nights) at nearby hotels. Was thinking in terms of asking some of the girls i have read about to come to my hotel room.
Regards,
Sharq
From Rumania of course. Shiatsu reports. I went back after C had stopped. I didn't really fancy anyone and it was really quiet (Wed around 20.00). Even Julia (tall one from Ru) made eye contact!!.
However Anka stopped me in the corridor and asked me to go with her. I said no. Then I said "You look upset" and out came the story - how she didn't know what she was doing wrong as she didn't get enough men etc and how she was working an 18 hour day. Anyway I got her to go on a couch (no doubt with the prospect of a 50 Euro note) and showed her how to make herself a bit more obvious (kissing, cuddling etc) and to show everybody she was successful. We chatted for ten minutes, then had a nice halfhour in a room and went on a grand tour of upstairs to show the men and girls she had got a customer. I left straight after with her cheerful blowing kisses and smiles across the big room.
This showed a few things - the girls can sometimes get down and have difficulty closing the deal. I'm not gullible enough to spend my 50 euros just because someone says "Zimmer?" - I expect a bit more
One girls told me that she reads the reports men make. I wonder if this is one reason why at FKKW the girls are now approaching the men much more
Had a good time meeting you and Cordelia. The insights she provided were very enlightening, especially the difference a 50 euro note made in a "relationship." Good to hear she had a few good experiences at World. Glad you found Magda. You can see why she is one of my favorites. Met her first at Atlantis. She can be quite playful at time, but sometimes she can appear to be moody. Too bad I missed her again!
I think the problem with closing the deal is that there is so little time. Just as guys try to find out if a girl will give a good time, girls have to determine in a short time whether a guy is interested at all or if he is even interested in any session. I did find an interesting experience with a girl at Palace who said she was very good at sex and liked to kiss. Now that's advertising and cutting to the chase.
On Closing the Deal:
Cordelia, Thanks for giving us a bit more on this great subject. Your perspective is priceless for those who strive to really "understand" and for those men who really do care what is going on in the mind of the the other half of the deal and what that girl might actually feel. Bravo again. Your writing has illuminated various corridors of fkking that were previously a bit dim (or was it just me?), and I look forward to reviewing what you say, when I am next sitting upright on one of the World couches in observant/hunting mode.
Shiatsu,
Re Anka: Your kindness and mentoring seems to have born some fruit, for just two nights ago, a friend and known wsg board member, Mr Beffen1, wrote (0n another board) a nice piece about his long passionate session with Anka last Thurs night. If she could score an experienced monger like him, well, she must be doin' somethin' right, right? I will look out for her in a couple of weeks or so, when I next walk through the red velvot curtain...
Ortos
This is something I want to address but by NO means belabour.
Just wanted it to be said that some (and understand please, I do mean VERY few women) do practice racism in the FKK clubs, I am a black mongerer, nice looking and definitely do NOT smell and I have had some women repeatedly avert their glances when I have tried to make contact with them.
My parents raised me right and my personal hygenie is extremely important to me even when I am alone, so I know that was not an issue with these women. Hey, when I have gone to FKK clubs, I have been treated like a king (or porn star lol) by women of all countries, but there are a small handful who will refuse to work with me solely on the basis of color, and nothing else.
Anyway, back to the reviews. If any of you guys are in Frankfurt w/e 4/1 (April 1) PM me.
Minimus
Fair point. We were trying to help by pointing out how important it is for all men to be clean (amazingly this is not understood by some men).
We're sad that anyone should discriminate on colour, ethnicity etc. As we are white we have rarely had that problem but sometimes it has happened against us and we know it is unpleasant. Being a woman used to be the same - treated as inferior - but fortunately things have changed.
We'll not be in Frankfurt when you are there - unfortunately
Cordelia
On reflection I don't think I got everything out of my last visit. So I 'm going back for another holiday (!!) from March 18th until at least 24th. FKK World staff were very supportive of me. This time I'm going to lock myself in so that I'm like all the other girls and don't have a husband with me to give me options to leave every two minutes....
I loved the sex last time. Apologies to anyone who I missed by leaving when I did. Maybe next time??
If anyone is likely to be around when I am there and would like either a chat and/or good sex PM me.
Cordelia
Arrived at World with few friends on Thursday at around 17:00. Around 30 girls and men. The selection got better couple of hours later. We had hoped to meet Cordelia, but that experience will have to wait until next time (great posts Cordelia and Shiatsu, keep'em coming).
World has been my least favorite FKK club of the 3 big FRA clubs, but that does not mean that I don't like it, only that I like the other 2 better. The main room is a bit too dark. You are kind of out of range when sitting in many of the sofas and it is hard to make contact unless standing up and walking right up to the girl. What can be done to make these places a bit more fun in between sessions? I get bored in between even when with friends so I can understand that the girls can be bored to death.
We had two main agendas for the visit. One was to meet Cordelia who unfortunatly had left (Cordelia and Shiatsu have been very nice keeping us posted about day to day situation so we knew we would not meet her this time) and the other to meet the Croatian sisters (Celine and Tina). We had stayed in the club for about half an hour when we met Celine. She told us her sister was in the changing room. One of us went with Celine to a room and all was as usual, that is PSE. Celine was a bit more business like now than last time when we met her at Oase, not taking a lot of time for smalltalk and was working the room pretty aggressevely (and closing the deals as well). I decided to skip her this time.
I went with Julia from Romania (the playful blond with the perky tits that Shiatsu refers to). How many Julias are there now? Had a great session with her. Very nice girl.
Next session was a double team with my collegue on Tina. Very energetic and fun. Offered Anal and DP (although I'm not sure if she really ment DP), but we declined and opted for the more traditional one in mouth while other is banging with regular switches. Tina liked to test our limits and after a prolonged bbbj with my friend she jumped on me and demanded a DFK. I just thought what the hell and went for it. Don't think she was expecting that. Great fun with Tina, but after this session she was booked for the whole evening by some guy.
As I had given Julia favourable review to one of my collegues, he was eager to go with her. I had noticed that Julia was hanging out with a brunette and I suggested that we would get them both to a room. I approaced Julia with this idea and ok, they were all for it. Asked the other girls name. Answer: "Julia". Ok I thought, now has come a time to use social security number to identify the girls instead of names. They can't continue on this Julia run for any longer :-)
The session was a good one. My collegue liked Julia as well as I did and brunette Julia was ok, although she did not seem to be much into kissing, she was very affectionate. When I was in the middle of coming, my collegue blurts out "hey man, are you coming" and it kind of ruined the moment. Brunette Julia sushed him and gave him a disimproving look. Orgasm is apparently not to be interupted in her mind. When he was coming with perky blond Julia, I returned the favour and asked if he was coming (now he at least knows how it feels to be interupted in the middle of an orgasm ;-). Brunette Julia was shocked by our disrespect for the moment and now I got the look. It was all in good fun, but I liked brunette Julia for her sensitivity towards the orgasm moment and she seemed pretty genous about it. We stayed in the room for good 10-15 minutes afterwards and I was afraid we had ran over the half hour mark, but the girls made no claims over the 50e each.
One of my friends had gone with Linda and other with Miracle, both black girls claiming they are from Jamaica. They hung out with us a lot afterwards and are great fun to be with. I decided that my fourth and last session of the night would be with Linda. This happened to be one of the best sessions for a long time. She looks good, her lips are just delicious, but what made the experience great was that there had been a lot of communication before the session and I liked the girl. My best sessions are almost always with girls that have done a little investing in discussion, playfulness etc. without extensive pressure of going to room.
Other girls sampled this night by my collegues were Czeck Cindy, Russian Marina, Michelle, and couple of others I don't remember the names of. All session were rated good so all in all a pretty good night and I would repeat with the ones I went with.
I think some english speaking WSG/Igna???? members were present, but I did not have the "courage" to approach them and ask straight out. Would have been great to get some pointers from regulars on location. I have yet to find Czeck Andrea although there was a girl there that might have been her.
We had planned to do Palace on Friday and Oase on Saturday, but changed our plan and reversed as we would have to leave a bit early on Friday and Oase is better daytime club than Palace with Palace getting really strong from 7/8 pm. Will report seperatly.
Chivaz
Hey
I was dissipointed to here about the fall of world. I was at oase once before but it was so packed that i could not use the jacuzzi or find a place to sit.
i will be back in germany in april. hope to check somethings out then
rd
Hotels:
Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
very old-fashioned, not comfortable, but with 26,- €/night incl. breakfast very cheap.
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
Girls for Incall-service:
Maybe you´ll find a girl who is willing to serve you after her normal shift at World. But are you sure you want to meet a woman that has been working for at least 12 hours just before she comes to your room?
And, if the club-management recognizes your wishes, you might get a "Hausverbot": The FKK-Clubs live from the entrance fee of the male and female guests. They are not interested in promoting services outside the club...
At World once again yesterday, I met some guys from the US there - it´s always a special pleasure taking with you!
The place seemed quit filled for a sunday, nevertheless the atmosphere was quiet low. Since it was just my third visit at World this year, I nearly felt like a foreigner at the place - the majority of girls was unknown to me. I don´t have to mention that most of the "Newbies" come from Romania.
After talking with my fellow mongers for a little while, I placed myself in one of the couches close to the dining room and looked around to select my first victim.
The variety of girls available was completely satisfying for me and I had some problems making my plans. But after some minutes a very nice looking girl came to sit opposite to me, dhatting with another girl. After exchanging smiles and looks for some minutes she came over and approached me. She intoduced herself as Ramona from Romania. dhe didn´t speak German, but English, another chance to exercise my language skills (besides ot this forum).
But we didn´t talk to much: She began to kiss me in the soft and gently way that makes my heart melt and starts to strenghten other organs of mine... ;)
She didn´t hurry and I enjoyed very nice 15 minutes on the couch kissing and stroking Ramona and receiving everything back that I did to her...
Finally we went downstairs for a room and some more intimacy.
Ramona really tried (and managed!) to please and pamper me in every way I could think of. I enjoyed her soft and wet BBBJ, before laid her on her back, kissed her cheek, her shoulders an breasts before I made my way down for some DATY which she really seemed to enjoy. After some time I made my way up again, Novize jr. got covered and I penetrated her slowly without loosing eye-contact. Missionary is a great style to produce intimacy, and we ended in this position. After that we lay side by side keeping each other in our arms, before the time was more than up and we went upstairs again.
A session scoring in the top ten in nearly three years of mongering!
Ramona´s stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1981
hair: black, long
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattooes/piercings: none
other: great GFE
I went for lunch after the session and found my fellow mongers at the upper bar afterwards. I was tired after this session and soon tried to get some sleep in the Relaxzone downstairs. No chance!
After a short time I was approached by Tina from Croatia. Although I knew this couldn´t work, I went to a room with her. Beginner´s fault! But after the session with Ramona it was at least something that brought me back on earth. Not the girl´s mistake, so I won´t give any rating.
After the second lunch I wandered around a little bit and looke for my next victim, when Ramona came to me and we sat down for some cuddling. She told me, she had another customer in line, but would be free after that. So she took the desision away from me...
I told her I would wait downstairs in the Relaxzone, went there, closed my eyes and woka up at the moment Ramona came to my couch. For a detailed descrition of the following session just re-read the first one. She added ball (and surrounding area)-licking, I added a gentle massage of her anus and togehter we added some doggie-style. All in all, the second session was even more intimate than the first one.
I was over for this night. I spent the time till closing with Small-Talk and planning my next trip to World.
I often get asked for details in PMs etc so I thought I'd try to give details here for general use
Firstly, Giessen is 70km from Frankfurt and easily accessible by halfhourly (usually) direct train, taking around 40 minutes. The hard bit is after that
Use the bahn.de website
Choose "Int Guests"
Choose "PlanningYour Journey"
Enter Giessen to Pohlheim in the "from" and "to" boxes, then do search
Next screen choose "Advanced Search"
Next screen enter Giessen in "From" box, change "To" box to "address" option and then enter "Pohlheim Garbenteich, Dorf-Guller Strasse" the do search
When options come up chose "Dorf-Guller Str/L3131". Do search
Next screen gives you the itinerary to Sportplatz. You get off here (you can tell because you will have been going down Dorf-Guller str and are just leaving the built up street with a field on the left and a sportground on the right
Once you get off the bus you walk in the direction the bus had been going when you were on it, (not the way the bus goes once you get off it) keep the sportfield to the right of you, cross a railway line. After about .5 of a mile you turn left and you are almost in front of FKKW.
Taxi from Giessen to FKKW one way is 17 euros
Shiatsu
Last Sunday night at World - first time in a couple of months, as I'm usually an Oase man, but made up to meet with Shiatsu and Cordelia.
I've already met Shiatsu at the already legendary WSG survivor's night and the mysterious Cordelia and I have been corresponding since before the summer. An intelligent charming woman, who is breaking down alot of the artificial barriers that our society imposes on our desires, needs, and fantasies.
Since the summer S&C have become Beverly afficianados, met with many WSG mongerers and genuinely endeared themselves to all of us many with their openess, fascinating posts and willingness to test their own limits, to taste the forbidden, to reach new understandings of themselves and their relationship.
I do not believe that I have ever met any woman who would announce that she was going to work at World and actually carry it out as Codelia has at FKK World. I told her - it really takes balls! And I sincerely admire someone who acts on their desires, not heeding the naysayers and societal constraints and moralizing.
With all that we had to talk about, the sex could easily have been anti-climatic. Believe me it wasn't. How can I describe it - a unique mix of sweet and spicy, intimate and wild, intelligent and raunchy, She really likes the sex, so why shouldn't she enjoy herself. And btw - I paid for my session. Friends or no friends - C's a very hard business woman, and the week in World came with a business plan to cover out of pocket expenses.
For me- it was an EST-like night. Closing the circle in some way since S&C credit (or blame) me for tipping them off about Beverly and giving the kernel of the idea for their World adventure. It' s simply amazing how this forum has changed lives and brought people togther from the far-flung corners of human existence. The one common denominator is that we are looking to expand our sexual horizons and we all have balls. Some mroe than others!
Last Sunday night - some other notes-
*went with the lovely Jamaican Linda whom Chivaz has described so well> Lots of fun - long 1 hour session. It was only her 2nd night. Fabulous ass which I probed explored and groped. Great lithe body. Likes to laugh and play. So do I. Highly recommended.
*Also went near the end of the night with a skinny long legged Bulgarian - I'm ashamed to admit that her name was either Christina or Maria. She was lying on the couch near the curtained platform and had the eyes, and although I was very tired having spent the previous day skiing, I couldn't resist the eyes. Unbelievable passionate not faked sex . She later told me that as it was a very slow weekend, she had only had 4 short sessions in 2 days and needed to get it out of her system and was watching me since I had come in. Now I knew why she had locked her eyes on me. I more or less collapsed afterwards, and after about 10 minutes, I realized that she was kissing me from top to bottom and thanking me. Now who do you think should be paying for this session?
*Also it was great to finally meet (introduced by Shiatsu and Cordelia) the immensely knowledgable and experienced Novize, probably the most active FKK-er that I know. Had a nice talk about the troubled FKK business which over this long winter is obviously suffering.
* Sundays are usually a slow day, but how can they keep a place of this magnitude running, maintain the facility, etc without business every day of the week. I found the energy level very low, the selection of sp, as I've pointed out before, very monolithic and not diverse, and a lack of contact. I agree that the Oase facility cannot match World, but at least at the moment, it's doing a better job at keeping its positive sexual energy and producing a better product. IMO, Palace also has at the moment a higher energy level. Novize seems to think that with other clubs opening closer to FRA, the Pohlheim location may be in for some hard times.
the immensely knowledgable and experienced Novize, probably the most active FKK-er that I know.Who the hell is walking around at World using my nickname? ;)
Thanks for the flowers, but knowing some guys who are in the club-scene for 10 - 20 years I still feel adequately described by my nick... :)
Novize seems to think that with other clubs opening closer to FRA, the Pohlheim location may be in for some hard times.From the existing clubs in the Rhein-Main-area, World is hardest to reach from Frankfurt, South Hessen, Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria - economically wealthy regions with quit a big number of regular club-visitors.
World has the service providers with the lowest communication skills of all clubs in Hessen in average. Most visitors are german speaking, and at World there are a lot of girls who´s german skills are worse then their english skills. This leads towards an atmosphere getting close to the Frankfurt RLD-district.
World seems to have the biggest percentage of discount-hunting "without condom fucking" male guests of all clubs.
Most of the ATL-Top-Providers have moved to Oase or Palace, only a few to World. These girls are magnets for visitors.
World is the biggest club of all and so needs a lot more people to develop a good atmosphere. When Palace seems lively and crowded, the same number of guests make a poor impression at World.
The clubs biggest advantage is it´s great outdoor area. This made the club superior to all others in the hot summer of 2003. in 2004 this wasn´t an advantage due to the cold, wet summer.
That´s why I think, World will face hard times if there will be one or two new places to go to in the Rhein-Main/Rhein-Neckar-area.
Just my viewpoint to muddy the waters. Comparison is always hard and is often a matter of viewpoints. I do not think I would say FKKW is in decline.
My experience on the issues. I was there the same night as 2974 and Iseeu and yes it was rather quiet. However I had been to Oase earlier the same day and that was even quieter (comparing the time I left Oase to the time I arrived at FKKW).
Tha language skills at FKKW are more of an issue for German speakers than for English speakers - so far as I could see the number of English speakers as a percentage is about the same between both clubs (I made several visits to both clubs). For example Rumanians often speak better English than German
As for atmosphere - as I have said previously that there is little couch action upstairs at FKKW - it takes place in the large downstairs lounge. With one girl at FKKW I went with, there was a long period on the couch downstairs - it just needed me to show what I wanted to do. At Oase there is only couch action really if you are already committed to a session (which is fine)
Atmosphere and chatting. There is less chatting than there used to be at FKKW - but it had always been exceptional for the amount of chat (even more than Atlantis) Some girls are interested in a basic service level approach (especially those who do not speak German), but even this is a simplification - there are so may exceptions - I remember 2974 you entertained a girl in the downstairs bar for ages, keeping me in laughter for over half an hour, (and of course Ramona you report on recently).
When I went back on Wednesday the atmosphere was very cheerful - there were girls playing in the pool with men (for a long time so obviously not part of a session) and other girls being carried piggyback around by some other men - there was a general very fun atmosphere, girls were happy to talk to me in passing. Which only shows that things vary night to night.
At Oase (which I visited three times over the week) I did get more chat - but also a lot more in your face marketing - it may have been a bit more subtle than FKW but it was also more intrusive. Once again it's a question of preference
One point I have mentioned previously is shortchanging on sessions (time wise) this seems to be possibly a bit more common at FKKW (but on the other hand I may think that only because it is easier to keep an eye on the timekeeping at FKKW than at Oase)- but I saw it happening at Oase also. The key advice is always to watch and time girls going to rooms and generally not to go with anyone who finishes a session in 10 minutes.
If any conclusions come from this it is that we consumers can decide what we want - couch action/chat/ etc and whichever club we go to we can go for that and not just hope the girls will read our mind. We need to tell a girl we want chat or couch action - if we didn't say then how are they going to know it's important? I went to both clubs several times and found they both had their own weaknesses and strengths.
FKKW has a less heterogenous ethnic mix and this may be a disadvantage for some consumers (but may be good for consumers who like the predominant style of FKKW girls). With this group homogeneity there is the danger of a particular service culture emerging - which could include more of a RLD attitude, or shyness from fresh girls who are basically amateurs (but again some consumers really like this ...)
The biggest problem for FKKW is as 2974 says - its location.
I don't think we can talk about a decline (soemone recently posted asking about FKKW and its decline). Things change. I remember in its early days that everybody was saying FKKW was no good - and then I went there and loved it - even over Atlantis - and then the posts started saying how good FKKW was. I don't think it's ever been very different to how it is now - some things are changing but in essence FKKW is similar to how it's always been. Maybe the change is in the postings by us!!
How we enjoy each club depends on our personal preferences - all we cando in reports is record experiences. Making overall judgenments about clubs is hard unless we can record specifics
Shiatsu
First of all: What's with this Member#2974 stuff? What happened to your name, Novize? Did you change it? or did it happen automatically? Funny, during the problematic weeks for this forum, I recently logged on and in the upper right-hand corner, where it normally says: "Welcome, Ortos. You last visited: etc..." It said: Welcome, Novize. Private Messages: 1 Unread, blah, blah.." It actually thought I was you...and nosey person that I am, I tried unsuccessfully to open your PM, but then the site crashed on me...Justice, I suppose. But that was the last I saw of your name: Novize. So what happened?
Well, you are definitely not a Novice FKKer, that is clear from the many good points and observations you (and Shiatsu) just made about World and its apparent decline...
I don't know if it is right to classify this as a true decline...It is just evolving into what it is. All clubs, like persons, have a personality, or general atmosphere or "vibe." But unlike many people, the club personality can change from one month to the next, or one week to the next, even from day to day. I've always thought the ebb and flow of FKK clubs, like the oceanic tides, is an under-studied science.
Visiting World over the past --jeeez, it's not even two years yet, innit?-- 16/18 months, I am trying to remember at what point exactly World became so dominated by Romanian providers (with the beloved Bulgarians taking second place). I remember vividly that about a year or so ago, there were certainly several Romanians and Bulgarians, but not the utter saturation that we now see. At that time there were far more Czech, Russian, Ukranian, Lithuanian, Hungarian, etc. girls at World in proportion to the overall assemblage than now. Am I wrong? I must admit that I do find the ethnic diversity at Oase and Palace to be a positive factor when I compare it to World.
I had not noticed the language element that you point out at World, until recently. This may have something to do with the country of origin, Romania, of most of the girls, but also the fact that at certain times of the year, World does receive some kind of influx of new girls, who are generally new to the FKK scene and thus have not logged enough working/living hours/days in Deutschland to become in anyway proficient in German. I would imagine that working in an FKK club would take the concept of "intensiv spracht kurs" to new heights...perhaps, we should ask Cordelia? But I think that at any of the 3 big clubs one can find girls less comfortable with German and English is often the default foreign language...
The location of World works both ways. On the one hand, it will be an impediment to some, who lack the means or mind-set to travel 30-40 minutes outside of Frankfurt. Palace and even Oase are far closer, thus more convenient. However, some will like the fact that it is "in the sticks." They might like the physical setting more and the fact that they may be less likely to run into people they know from "the real world." Some girls from Frankfurt/Wiesbaden areas may also prefer to work at World, rather than too close to their home base.
At the end of the day though, as Shiatsu says, each club has its +s and -s...I may lean towards one club now, another one later, but over the long haul I will be drawn to all of them, because they each have a different vibe and are each changing from week to week...
Does anybody else have some comments to make? Beffen, or anyone else just back from visiting World?
Ortos
i was back in frankfurt for my 52nd birthday weekend celebration. after a flawless delta flight, the fine gentleman at the monopol had an upgraded deluxe double room for 65 euro ready for me at 9am try that in amsterdam, he even remembered my name thanks to the introduction of ortos. i lay around until 3 pm or so, needing to catch up on my sleep and at 4 30 took the train to giessen. unfortunately there was a suicide on the tracks north of bad homburg and we were delayed 45 minutes and had to cram onto a combined train but i made it by 7 30.
world was surprizingly quiet this thursday (feb 17) night, many of the reguars i had come to know and love we absent, my romanian darlings andrea and luana were gone. in no hurry to begin, i sat on a couch and surveyed the room. soon a tall brunette joined me, she had a face very similar to my recently departed wife andrea from romania and was a great kisser on the couch so i took her to the vip room for a half hour beginning romp. excellent deep throat and more fabulous snogging but i did not feel the [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) chemistry i crave. still, dahlia from romania was a very nice appetizer, though not mind blowing. she is at world less than one week.
i returned to the main room, still no sign of desert fox, and as i was minding my own business, watching the horseplay of cindy the czech librarian and the slowly increasing customer base and mating ritual activity, a tall tan willowy blonde with the longest back tatoo i have ever seen sat on my lap and introduced herself. i am jaqueline she said. remembering freds intel, i asked where are you from. poland was the reply and her touchy feely couch action just about sealed the deal. after about five minutes of couch kissing and small talk, we went to the same vip room for an hour of great sex.
back in the great room, fox had arrived and we sat for a while before he took his new bulgarian wife away for yet another honeymoon. i had been admiring an adorable petite yet busty barbie doll blonde who looked about 17 years old. i motioned her to sit on the couch next to me to find her name was julia aged 21 from romania and formerly employed at golden time and phg. she had natural c cups, curly blonde hair and a body to die for. her couch kissing was more of the teasing variety, very similar to that of marlene of phg, gt, and now samya in koln. we snagged the best vip room, the one with three walls of mirrors, just right for this delightful eye candy. despite her lack of english skills, i enjoyed a fine 30 minute session, putting her through her paces in a romp that was more than an optik fick but less than a gfe.
by now, around 1 am, i was feeling tired so both fox and i retired to the relax zone to nod off. i could not though and went back upstairs. i sat on a couch where i could watch the comings and goings and spied my first girl dalhlia sitting with two of her mates. one was a delighful tall [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) named anka, with that pouty high school girl face many of us love, she was tall, dark red died hair slim and gorgeous with puffy small b cups and a perfect slim body. i motioned her over to sit with me and soon she was kissing me in the manner to which i have become addicted. as we searched for a vip room, all the doors were closed and other couples were searching as well, they passed all the closed doors but i know to look for a chair propped against the translucent doors, one couple passed thinking it was occupied and i checked anyway and voila the pepto room was free indeed so we giggled and grabbed it.
anka gave me a true gfe for one hour, we hit it off smashingly. i reluctantly bid her farewell after an hour, with endless goodbye kisses in the locker room. so now its 2 am and i basically lazed away in the relax zone and had a sauna or two. then , at 4am, as fox and i watched soccer in the relax zone, anka came down trolling. i went after her and she kissed me passionately bade me to join her on the couch by the water cooler to chill. and for the next hour, we made out like high school kids and i massaged her and we talked about life. then it was 5 am and time to go. anka is at world just 6 days and is recommended if you like a dkk/ gfe.
beffen1
gentlemen,
i wouldn't classify the current conditions at world as a decline, just a seasonal lull. with the messe season and inclement weather and icy roads, palace definately now enjoys an advantage with more girls and punters staying in the city close to the messe and not straying into the countryside. even with the seasonal advantage of palace and to a lesser extent oase, still, the lineup at world never ceases to titillate me more than that at palace. i like the turnover factor at world. i like [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) types and world never disappoints in that regard.
on friday february 18, i found little to stir my loins at palace, despite the presence of some 50 or 60 girls. were it not for a one hour session with marina, it would have been a totally boring night. i did not visit oase this trip because i really do not like the smoky crowded atmosphere and did not want to be trapped indoors with the rowdy crowd and relatively poor service at oase, but i shall definately go back there in the summer.
as for hard sell, quickie in-out inferior service, i have encounterred more of that at oase and palace than at world. the aggresiveness factor has always been more bothersome for me at palace and oaser than at world. couch action is more comfortable at world too, it depends on the night, i have had great threesome couch action at world in the main room, and great one on one downstairs. the girls at palace tend to cut it short in favor of the room. at world, i tend to develop more relaxed affable relationships with girls.
the physical facilities at world, the hospitality and service, the cleanliness, constantly replenished food, and all the varied spaces are what does it for me. and in summer, with the pool and gardens i can relax all day from 11 am until closing at world. it's like a home away from home. world will rock this spring and summer, and the girl selection will get even better.
as for diversity, yes there are many romanians there, but they are adorable and often offer gfe. i love romanians. and i have met plenty of representatives from belarus, moldavia, russia, poland, hungary, czech republic, slovakia, jamaica, africa, cuba, brazil, and germany at world. if i want more latinas, i'll go to costa rica, its much closer to home and warmer.
when i think of fkk, i think of the men's day camp that is fkk world. i can't wait for summer.
Beffen1 - I'm glad you found Anka after I reported on her being a bit down in the dumps. She gave me a nice time (as I previously reported), and in the light of recent posts, is very much the sort of person who you are most likely to find at FKKW compared to elsewhere - a new, inexperienced sex worker. Happy to sit and talk and kiss and have enthusiastic sex. Shiatsu
I am dissappointed to hear that World is turning into a Romanian Sex Brothel. Last visit in January was very mild compared to my previous visits in March, October, and November. The mild weather in October was awesome. I like hanging outside,, basking in the warm weather, watching the guys and girls hold hands while they walked around the grounds. Being able to walk outside for a "smoke" was a nice change late in the evening.
I can only imagine that as one Niche fails,, another one blossoms. I do enjoy the facilites of Palace,even Oase (except for the odor and smoke) and hope that World keeps its previous levels up to par.
I am forced to go study these issues abroad,, need some ethnic diversity so I am off to Central America (Costa Rica) this week and then going to Thailand
for two weeks in Mid March. Will have to compare the 3hr (threeway) Soapy Massages to the FKK environment.. Ah,, what choices.
I am hoping to return to Frankfurt in April thanks to some really discounted airfares on Northwest,, only $480 (Total) Roundtrip from Phoenix direct to FRA. One bad thing about the European Sex venues,, cheap to get there but expensive once you get in. In Thailand,, expensive to get there ($800 RT) but very cheap once your there ( 500 Baht/$10 bar fine and about 1000-1500 Baht/$30 for the entire evening) PER GIRL :-) AND 5 Star Hotels for less than what I pay to stay in Giessen or even the Monopol.
Hope to see some of you then, Will be posting my rantings from Costa Rica Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket on Ignatz under my 420 Handle,, Ok per the moderator ..LOL
Regards,, asta la vista,,, doog,, laew phob gan mai, gutten tag,
Carnal1
At FKKW there are Cuban, Spanish, Czech, Jamaican, Latvian, German, Polish, Hungarian, and Bulgarian. This is the sort of mix there has always been - the only difference is that there are more Rumanians than a year ago. My guess would be that about 40% are from Rumania. But a Rumanian brothel it is absolutely definitely not - it is an FKK. As I tried to indicate in my previous post I don't think this indicates a decline. It all depends onwhat you like - the only way to find out is to checkthe clubs out oneself (as I did extensively with three visits to Oase and four to FKKW over five days - I found each club had positives which the other club did not have - the perfect day was to go to both!!!).
Seems to me that the fact here is this discussion about which clubs are best indicates there is a good variety of choice between clubs
Shiatsu
Shiatsu,
One cannot disagree with what you say. I have sometimes engaged in "double-dipping" and visited two clubs in one day. And given the fact that you can re-enter without repaying, basically coming and going as you wish, over a 16-hour period, one can have a lot of fun and erotic experience, if you can afford to pay 120E in entrance fees for one day.
And it is definitely wrong to use the term "decline" with World right now. It is just a different vibe and atmosphere than the other clubs.
True one can list several nationalities at World, not just Romanian or Bulgarian. The point is: How many Latvians are there? How many from Hungary, Poland, Czech? How many Russians, etc....in proportion to the Romanian contingent? It is just so dominated. Whilst the Romanians perhaps figure 40+% at World, the Bulgarians over 20%, girls from other countries might only figure in the single digits? There may only be one girl from Latvia, one from Moldavia, only a couple from Russia, maybe three from Poland, etc. Anyway, I have not done a statistical analysis...It just ain't like it used to be, that is the point.
But ideed one might find more of the type of girl you are looking for at a given club. World, for example, may well be the best to find the newly-arrived girl, untainted and pure love and GFE-type girl, as opposed to the hardened professionals that may populate, say, Oase, in greater numbers. That doesn't mean you won't find either type at either club, it just means one club has more than the other. We are looking at trends here.
Anyway, I love all the clubs, and would not reject or elevate one club above the others. That is why when I go to Frankfurt for several days, I initially visit all the clubs back-to-back during my first two/three days. Have a look round at the girls there and then decide which club(s) to devote most of my time. I will test that in a short time from now and report accordingly...
Ortos
First of all:
What's with this Member#2974 stuff? What happened to your name, Novize?
I lost my name during the Senior Membership Upgrade procedure. I tried to find out, why "Novize" doesn´t meet the Username guidelines, without success. Perhaps, "Novize" just isn´t appropriate for a senior member. "Monk" is too short, so maybe I´ll have to come back as "Monkey". ;)
I already wrote an email to Jackson and hope to have my name back soon. I don´t want to be just a number...
Back to World:
this is a very nice discussion going on here. And I´m happy that we don´t try to write FKKW to death. The club has it´s advantages and disadvantages, but I still like it there - otherwise I wouldn´t be there nearly every sunday.
I just wanted to point out what could happen, if one or two new good clubs open in the Rhein-Main area.
There are outstanding providers at World - and there are girls with great communication skills. But (as a german visitor) for me in average it is lower than at Palace, Flamingo Island, FKK-Haus and, and...
Just imagine these girls worked in the US or UK without even trying to learn american/english - I think that´s a strange attitude...
Novize - not 2974, but 9462
Ortos and Novize - I agree with everything you say in your last posts!!. If only countries' leaders could tak ean example from this forum on how to discuss differing views and come to agreement....
And Novize - losing your identity is an awful fate!- raises all sorts of metaphysical issues (but that's not an FKK discussion....) Anyway I'm sure 2974 will become as well known as Novize - pending your re-incarnation as ? (btw - Cordelia takes your point and is struggling hard to learn a little German for her next holiday)
Shiatsu
(btw - Cordelia takes your point and is struggling hard to learn a little German for her next holiday)
She already did last time - and this was gladly appreciated by the World-staff and her german-speaking colleagues, as I could hear yesterday.
Novize - # 5 23 42 69...
Another visit at World yesterday. I arrived at 8 p.m. at a nearly empty parking place. Having stepped inside, I caounted 30-40 girls and perhaps 20 - 30 male guests. The girl-guy ratio should get more and more favourable during the evening. Men´s delight, but many girls had to suffer boredom during the night.
After chatting with some of the (german speaking) girls and completing my sightseeing lap through the club I was curious if my experience with Ramona last sunday had just been a "one-night-relationship" or if it could be expanded for another night. So I placed myself opposite to Ramona exchanging smiles and glances with her. Not even two minutes later she moved to my couch and sat down beside me. In contrast to last week she wasn´t very busy and had lots of time to concentrate on me. Soetimes I love these quiet sundays!
Her german language skils are nearl non existent, her english skills quit poor, but she´s absolutely great in non-verbal comunication. I soon went into a room with her to practice the internationally well-known "eleven-fingers-sign-language" which she understood very good and responded perfectly... ;)
The first session went on as intimate as if there had never been a one-week-break since our last meeting.
After having finished this session, I tried to enjoy a meal, but the food was lousy that night. So I relaxed a little bit at the chmney downstairs before I moved upstairs again to have a look at the scenery. I recognized some fresh romanian faces, some of them worth a closer look, but Ramona joined me again, we kissed and cuddled each other and - hard to believe - managed to have something like a conversation. So I got to know, that she never learned english at school - she learned it by watching english TV. Therefore I found her english skills quiet impressing...
There were not many male customers (even Andrea/Cz had times when she just sat on a couch for long) - and as it seemed not a single one Ramona wanted to join - so we spent hours on the couch talking, kissing and cuddling (I had told her very soon that I wasn´t in the mood for another session yet, but she didn´t move away), watching the "Further-Education-Movies" on the big flatscreen-TVs (not much we didn´t already know) and looking at Stefanie´s Table-Dance-course for beginners and World-Newbies. I learned about Ramona´s plans for the near future - I think I have to go over her stats from time to time in the near future( new hairdo, new hair-colour, diet), taht I had backdated her a little bit (she´s 26, not 24 as I had guessed last week) - and that talking with her can be as wonderful as getting physical.
Endurance pays, and in the end I went for a second session with her. Frightening, when paid sex with a single girl gets better every time - I´m not married yet, but nearly engaged...
After a small snack we went to the sauna together and ended our night together this way.
At the end, Ramona´s revised stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long (curly in a couple of days)
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattooes/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
Queen of Hearts - part three is scheduled for next sunday.
Novize #6969
Cordelia writes. I am going back to FKKW from March 18th until March 27th(inclusive). Last time was fun but the fact that it was my first ever such experience told. So I'm going back to see what it's really like - and with any luck I'll have lots of sex. If any wsg members want to say hi (and I promise not to kidnap and abduct you to a room unless you ask!!) PM me.
Shiatsu will be joining me from 25th. On 28th and 29th we are going to Beverly.
Heading to World on March the 12th. Anyone want to meet up? PM me. What are the odds this will even get posted before the 12th?
It's nice to have the forums back up again and working well. I hope this new server is able to handle all the PMs to/from Cordelia/Shiatsu, unlike last month when it crashed prior to her visit to FKKW! :) I've just returned from a holiday to sin city Vegas and am feeling a bit weary as well. Luckily, knowing what's available here kept me from wasting $$ on an unknown experience there in Vegas (strippers to your room, no obligation, etc.).
This talk about the decline of World has me thinking about some issues I noticed the last two times I was there. Perhaps it was the poor weather or the snow on the roads, but my visit on 20 February was a bit disappointing. My first session was with a girl from–you guessed it–Romania. Normally, I would not mind; I enjoyed my two-week holiday in Bucharesti last year. However, this girl was quite something else. Her name escapes me at the moment, but I was showing the facilities to my friend, whose first experience was quite good, when she intercepted me at the bottom of the stairs. She was quite pushy and repeated “no’s” would not drive her away (I was looking for Andrea). I finally relented and took the option for anal upgrade. I should have known better from her poor, pushy attitude. What I got was a non-intimate (no kissing), rushed (12 minutes), over-charged (150 vs. 100) session. I realized I did over pay, but in the end, I was unwilling to talk to the management and confront the Romanian mafia. That was the worst session at an FKK and not a good start to the day.
So, already, I feel sad and let down. Moreover, the girls and the clientele the night of the 20th had an odd feel to it. I finally met up with Andrea and she confirmed it to me as well. The girls were on edge, it was quite slow, and there were a group of loud, boisterous...Westerners shall we say, that neither Andrea nor I cared for. Thankfully, she restored my hope because we had a great hour-long session, and despite not finishing (it must have been the stress at this point), her great attitude and skills make me want to come back again.
Couple that with Cordelia’s visit the previous week, I still have a good time at World. Those of you who have not yet met Cordelia and Shiatsu, you will find some of the nicest people around. Cordelia seemed to be quite busy that night but she left a lasting impression. She truly has passion and enjoys herself and it definitely makes for an enjoyable time. The mirrors in the VIP rooms are nice and allows one to get a nice view of Cordelia going to town; truly talented Bjs. I hesitate to say more because I realize that Shiatsu will be reading this, but if you have a chance to meet Cordelia, she is quite the woman.
so you became a victim of the transsylvanian moneysuckers, too. Sorry for you...
But I have to claim that - according to the "official" price-list, the girl didn´t overcharge you. At World (and Oase) the uplift for anal is 100,- €, plus 50,- € for the time (OK, it should have been just 20,- € for 12 min. ;) ). So complaining at the reception wouldn´t have been of any use.
My last visits at World (I owe a report about last sunday) lead me to the conclusion that the worst times might be over. I always received nice, unrushed services without even a try to overcharge or extend time for the famous "5 minutes". And I have hardly heard any complaints from other visitors at last. Many transsylvanian moneysuckers have left the club and the new providers seem to be advised better...
Your experience shows that it´s not a percect World yet, but I think it´s improving again...
Novize
The reason for the lack of clarity about the price for anal may be that there is no effective official price at the clubs around Frankfurt?. I may be wrong as I have only limited experience. I have been quoted 150,100 and 50 as the official figure. If one of the higher prices is suggested negotiation normally swiftly leads to a 50 agreement. The key is to get the money agreed before actually doing it. However if I have a bad feel about the worker then I wouln't bother negotiating - I'd just refuse.
Shiatsu
22Acacia
Many thanks for the compliments, I return then with interest but no details!! I have a personal rule that I will not post about wsg members. It's bad enough that wsg members have to pay 50 euros yet alone get a report on them - so never any reports from me about mongers.
There are a lot of nice women at FKKW as well as the moneysuckers, so I guess you were a bit unlucky.
Cordelia
When you ask at the reception, you will always be told anal is 150 - including the first 30 min. That´s valid for Oase and World. I´m not into anal, but since I stay at the reception regularly, chatting with the receptionists, I heard that more than once (as a guideline for the women who asked for a hint).
Of course it´s a matter of negotiation, as (nearly) everything. Some girls refuse anal, some do it for 50, for 100, for 200...
I just think one can´t blame a girl for taking the price that is announced by the receptionist. It be then, she would have agreed to a lower price before.
I think it´s different at PHG, GT and Samya (should be 50 €), but for Rhein-Main, 100 € is a normal price. 50 would be a good deal, 0 would be close to love and shouldn´t be published in a forum.
In the end, the price depends on "chemistry", competition and the girl´s individual situation. Poor business leads to lower prices, and the borderline to exploitation can be passed very easlily (not that 22acacia would have done that, just a general remark!)
Not kissing is a handicap, rushing is a kind of rip-off, but anal for 100 extra is nothing to cry about. I can understand 22acacia for not being happy with this uninspired session and I am thankful for his report (I hope he can remember the name for a warning). I just wanted to state that the pricing was "correct". The service was poor...
Novize
I heard from a guy last Saturday at Oase that the Romanian group at World had him swearing off that place for a while. Is this the same Rumanisches Quartett that terrorized Oase last Fall?
Dedalus
Who was the "Rumänische Quartett" at Oase last fall?
At World are definitely more than 4 romanian girls working. But as far as I know, most of them didn´t work at other clubs before.
Novize
Oh boy. My recollection of their names is blank. There was a tiny red-head, two brunettes and a pretty fine looking blonde. Something about that group always made me leery, and there were some negative reports on the roemerforum about them last year. Bitte suchst du ein Post bei dem RM unter den Titel "Ajax ohne Schutz mitten in der Oase!" ich wurde gern ein Link zu diesem Bericht schreiben, aber dafur gibt wahrscheinlich Aerger von dem WSG Chef.
Cheerio,
Dedalus
Elisa (lang, tall, good looking blonde) was at FKKW last year, but I haven´t seen her again since January (I miss her a little bit. I had one - quiet strange - session with her, but sometimes I feel I would like to repeat that).
I forgot the names of the other three, too. But I can´t remember having seen them on one of the last sundays. So there must be more than 4 romanian "terrorists" in this business... ;)
Novize
You can cut & Paste & Translate it no problem. I have done it a couple of times. They are not competing forums.
a Link is more problematic as RF has an age check.
Peter
I suppose I should clarify a bit: I was under the impression that any additional extras were €50,--whether it be an extra 30 minutes, CIM, etc.--but I suppose I was mistaken. Again, I just don't want to make sure I'm overpaying and creating a precedent. We should all pay fair market preis otherwise we run the risk of running up the baseline price. You would not have heard me mention it if the session had not been so bad. Besdies, she was the one who upsold me. Darn it, I wish I could remember her name, but I’m not even sure I can recognize her face anymore–stupid brain!
Then again, there’s always talent there like the famous (infamous?) Andrea, Cindy, or Betty (whom I have yet to meet). I also talked with Alina from Romania who had only been working at World for a few days. But generally, the atmosphere at World seems more relaxed and friendly than my single visit each to Palace and Oase. The closeness of those two to Frankfurt AM makes them both attractive and not. I understand the high cigaretten smoke at Oase hasn’t been dealt with and to me, the facilities at Palace aren’t nearly as nice as FKKW.
Of course, since our friends Cordelia and Shiatsu will be returning to World, I most defiantly will as well.
I can remember from my trip to World back in October for the Halloween weekend, Andrea was the only girl I had asked about anal, and she quoted me the same, 150 Euro. I went ahead and passed, but looking back it might have well been worth it.
I also remembered two of the girls I was with saying they were from Bulgaria. I can't remember their names to save my life, but I remember having once teach me how to say something in Bulgarian, and then trying to repeat it to the second one, and she told me I was speaking another language. It was strange. The second girl was unbelievably hot, and gave one of the best blowjobs i've ever had. I just wish i could remember her name.
This one is from Beffen, who has difficulties to post at WSG:
Schiesse- that WSG MB has me at my wits end- I see a raging thread and write a reply and it just keeps asking me to reregister and then loses my reply. I cut it out and will paste it HERE. Maybe someone can post it for me there unter namen beffen.
Novize-
Wow, I have never seen so many posts in one day.
Bloodsuckers? There may be a couple, but most of my choices have given excellent GFE or PSE service the first two or three sessions- some then tire of my modus operandi and get cranky with me (just like in real life) but they are a gorgeous and fun lot.
My first and only anal at Palace was for 50 euro from grosse Diana. At PHG it has been offered by at least 2 lanky superstars for 25.
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22 acacia- I was there on Feb 20 as well. Too bad, I could have introduced you to my spider girl Anka- she is a sweet newbie. Did you meet the newest Julia? the bouncy blonde with the perfect hooters?
Another visit at World last sunday.
Arriving at 1 p.m. after an all-night party to celebrate the Formula1 season opening, I found the club nearly empty: about 8 women and the same number of men. Did the others watch the race, too, and were now to tired to show up?
The situation changed during the afternoon and evening, but the first hours I spent at World were very slow. A good chance to relax...
My first session was - of course - with my "romance" Ramona (I should call her "Romanza" next time I see her... ;) ) - great GFE!!! "Its getting better all the time..."
After the session it was time for my favourite World-hobby: Extreme-Couch-Potatoeing. I tried to sleep a little bit, but the business was poor enough to forcr the girls to waking me up repeatedly. Since I had laid my tired cadaver to the couch nearest to the pool in the "Relaxzone" I was close to exercise some "*****-dunking", but overcame this temptation.
I went upstairs, met a friend at the bar and recommended Romanza to him. After some hard work to resist Tamara while R. was busy, he finally managed to join her. His "report" afterwards was very positive, which was quiet importent to me, because it showed that her attitude towards me surely just is her style of making business. So there were no difficulties to expect if I would join other girls.
Unfortunately I was much too tired to do this for the most time of the evening. But I finally managed to do a session with Stefanie from Bulgaria, a very friendly, charming and playful member of the "Cindy-bunch" at World. Stefanie is always fun to chat and play with at the bar, and from time to time I really like to share a room with her. In the room it´s not a 100%-GFE, but always a great time cuddling, kissing and laughing. Forgot something? Ah, yes - sex! Her kisses are a little bit mechanical, but her BBBJ is smooth, slow and wet, as I like it. Her perfomance during sex is passionate and enjoyable. But for some reason we harmonize better outside the room than inside. Anyway, will be repeated surely!
Her stats:
name: Stefanie/Steffie
hair: brown, straight, long
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slender, curved, B-breast
origin: Bulgaria
born: ~ 1982
tattoos/piercings: none
service: Close to GFE, passionate, good bbbj
other: Usually hangs out at the upper bar with the rest ogf the Cindy-bunch
Chatted with friends afterwards, hung out at the pool to relax and watch the girls promenading, thought of approaching romanian Julia, but was just too tired.
Romanza approached me several times for a nice but short chat - she was quiet busy that day. Since she showed not even a slight sign of disappointment, I´m quiet sure to continue this story on April 20th...
But after Dedalus´ report I´ll have to visit palace before.
Have fun,
Novize
Novize-
Wow, I have never seen so many posts in one day.
An easy exercise on a slow, boring working day, just filling out forms. If my employer wants to waste my time, I have to waste some bandwidth... ;)
Bloodsuckers? There may be a couple, but most of my choices have given excellent GFE or PSE service the first two or three sessions- some then tire of my modus operandi and get cranky with me (just like in real life) but they are a gorgeous and fun lot.
Actually, they don´t suck blood, just money. And they can stay daylight without decomposing to dust. And, as I wrote, I think their number decreases at the moment.
My first and only anal at Palace was for 50 euro from grosse Diana. At PHG it has been offered by at least 2 lanky superstars for 25.
You lucky guy, not only for the price. Diana has a great derrière! :)
I just quoted the prices as they were told at the reception. As written before, the market may show other results...
Darn it, I wish I could remember her name, but I’m not even sure I can recognize her face anymore
Next time we meet we´ll try to identify her buns... ;)
Novize
Decided to check out World this past Friday instead of my usual Saturday. Was hoping for a busier, more party like atmosphere. Maybe it was the weather, but the place never did get very busy. Maybe 25 girls and the same number of guys. On the plus side I stuck around till closing and the girls seem to get a bit more playfull towards closing. Splashing around in he pool, etc... There did seem to be more Romanians than what I remember from last October. Maybe 50% of the girls. Not that bad though as they certainly do have a diverse look.
Down to business:
Katya -
Tall with long bleach blond (almost white) hair. Russian, from Moscow. Speaks Russian and German only. Seemed to spend most of her time alone instead of with the other girls. Nice girl, didn't watch the clock or get pushy, etc... Average performace. Not really GFE or wild ride, just kinda there. Seemed a little shy. Anyone know how long she has been there?
My only non Romanian of the night.
Anda -
Romanian (imagine that!), thin, medium height, with medium length dark hair that almost looked a deep red. Recommended by a German friend of mine. Kind of a sassy, friends with benefits type experience. Very playfull. Nice action on the couch, no rush to go to the room. Great visuals, awesome girl for a mirror room. She did try to push the upsell a a bit much and it was a tad annoying but she did stop soon enough that it wasn't a total mood killer. Nice friendly person to talk to around the place when you're done with business in the room.
Alicia -
Another Romanian. Brown hair, a little pudgy, was wearing a black belt. Very similar performance to Anda above. Nice couch action, very playfull, interested in making sure you get your pleasure . Was hanging out with Anda.
Ramona -
Lovely lovely Ramona from Romania. Really the best Girl Friend Experience I've had. I'm a cynical bastard but she comes oh so close to having me believe that she truly adores me. Tall, curly long black hair, a little bit of pudge around the waist. Friendly, nice to talk to. Fun on the couch, outstanding oral. Absolutely adorable face with dark brown eyes. Wonderfull post-coital talking and cuddling. Just a great experience. So good that I opted for another session with her instead of one with the famous Andrea from Czech. On that note, does anyone else think that Andrea and Ramona look quite similar?
Sorry for the break, got rushed out of the house.
In case the point didn't get through before, Ramona is a real treat and you're missing out if you pass her by.
Some of the girls I didn't visit:
Anka-
Tall, dark red hair. Was looking forward to meeting her as I had heard some good stuff on the board. She seemed to be in a foul mood though. I'm suprised that some girls can be all mopey on the couch and then expect a guy to be interested in going to a room.
Maga-
Very thin Romanian, blond hair, speaks good english. She approached me by the pool, sat down, starting talking, and then after five minutes started feeding me some line about charging for any time she spent with me. Sent her packing. Heard from a friend later on that his session with her was less than stellar.
Irina-
Russian, Moscow. Reddish (maybe brown) hair. Medium height. Hangs with a pack of tree other Russians. Looked very interesting but had an off putting attitude. Anyone had experience with her?
All in all a good trip but I was suprised by how empty it was for a Friday night. Sadly I won't be around this summer when World really shines :(
Katya sounds interesting, like a little challenge. I hope she works on sundays. ;)
My own experiences with Magda showed a different picture. Completely unrushed, talking and making jokes at the lower bar for times up to 1 hour (with weak sunday-night-business). In the room, she showed good attitude. Maybe it´s just a question of daily shape, business expactation vs. earnings and the often mentioned "chemistry".
In general, I agree to your remark, that a not so small number of girls seems to expect the men paying for cheering them up. Others, as Anka (as far as I experienced her attitude towards me), approach their potential clients in a very aggressive and not very respectful way - a sure method to be avoided by me now and in the future.
But, of course, the main reason for my answer is: RAMONA!!!
We should set up a fanclub, wearing towels in the national colours of Romania, wave Ramona-banners and shout speaking choirs everytime she enters the great hall. Of course it would be a little bit irritating (and Ramona herself might react a little bit scared), but it could be lots of fun... :)
Honestly spoken, I would rate Ramona high above Andrea in matters of GFE. Andrea is much more showy than Ramona and more active in approaching clients, but in the Room, Ramona is a GFE-class of her own. Ramona belongs to the top-three-performers in my nearly three years of FKKing. I hope that she won´tchange her attitude too fast.
Looking into both ladies´eyes, I can´t find real resemblance...
Have fun,
Novize
This thread has become very interesting to me. It is too bad that Anka has not taken my advice to try and always shake her cute little ass in the face of mongers and to be a playful schoolgirl- she must really be discouraged now but from what you guys say she is hurting her cause tremendously.
I love to watch Magda, looks- wise she is one of my all time favorite girls at World. Watching her work the young GI's on the couch in the relax zone for one or two hours or more before finally disappearing to a room is priceless, I wonder how much of that couch time those boys paid for. Magda and I sessioned once on my first or second day at World and it was strictly Magda in charge, which can be fun in a playful porn star way unless you really crave GFE with her. Since that time, Magda is upset with me since she somehow found out that I related too many analytical details of our first and last date on various fora and for this I am sorry. Magda, I promise I'll never expect GFE again. In fact, I would gladly walk on all fours and bark like a dog if she would let me sniff that ballerina's derriere again.
Beffen 1
Beffen´s post made me think a little bit about Anka and I have to relativize my yesteday´s statement.
Anka can be very nice and charming. And it must be an awful experience for a young girl to hang around at the club (nearly) the whole day without (nearly) any business, wasting time and being turned down by male guests regularly.
In addition, let´s do a short calculation: the girls has to pay 65 € entrance, fee, add 35 € for accomodation, Make-Up and other things. Makes 100 € a day she has to earn to pay her costs. Her pimp will get 50% of her earnings, so she has to do 4 rooms just to pay her costs. And that is a best case scenario.
So, a day with weak business is not just boring...
I can understand that the girls get mopey or agessive.
Nevertheless, I prefer to join the girls who react on the situation with more sedateness...
Have fun,
Novize
Last time I was at the FFKW was in November. I had such a great time with Christina and Gabriella (both from Poland I think). Since then I have only been reading about Romanian girls. Is there anyone who knows what happened to Christina and Gabriella?
I will be visiting the FFKW again the last week from April. I hope the weather will be better and that there will be more girls. Maybe someone of you will be there also.
Thanks,
Pilot 7
Novize,
I'll be back at World this Friday. Hope Anka is in a better mood, she does look incredible. I agree that the job is not for everyone. However, all the girls are there willingly and they have it a heck of a lot better than working girls in most countries. I didn't think the girls had pimps. Leach boyfriends maybe. I remember a discussion about this before. Anyone remember the conclusion? One of these days we need to find an ex provider to run the numbers for us to see what the income is really like.
Any info on Irina?
Boka D
Some silly series of conferences in Frankfurt has left me unable to find a room under my company budget of $230. Hmmm. Maybe I could just sleep at FKK World. That might be a passable hotel name to people back in the U.S. Do they take CC's for entrance? If only it could be... :)
My proposal for a hotel-name is "Hotel Grüninger Hof"...
And yes, they accept credit cards.
Booking hotline is +49 6404 659388
:) ;) :)
Have fun,
Novize
Pilot,
Christina is still working at World. Gabriella is working at Oase, I think.
If you can manage to visit World on sunday, May 1st, you´re "booked"... ;)
Boka,
Most foreign girls have pimps, whatever that means. They will hardly ever tell you. In Germany, pimpig is not a job description, but a crime. So no pimp wants his girl(s) to talk about his profession...
Whether the girls are there willingly is a matter of definition. If they have it better than working girls or not depends on their attitude and their "boyfriend". Both of it is out of our control, so we shouldn´t think too much about it.
Their "gross income" varies from 200 € to 1000 € on an average day. It depends on the attractivness of a provider, her attitude and the services she offers. Girls who refuse anal or CIM will surely be at the lower end. 1000 € is an amount that only a few top providers will reach in average. A solid average "gross income" should be approx. 300 €/day.
Sorry, I have no information about Irina.
Have fun,
Novize
@ Pilot7,
Gabriella is now working at Oase. Was she really that good? Never went with her, but last week at Oase she was there just looking at me and others in an angry, not very endearing posture. She gives off vibes that she hates you, even though she may not know anything about you...I'm surprised somebody really wants to find her.
Ortos is right about Gabriella. I had a session with at Oase and she was pretty bitchy. I will avoid her from now on. Good news for Pilot though. With that attitude she will probably not be booked that often and therefore available.
Cheers,
Dedalus
hotel world i think is possiable and it was less than 230 dollars i think. Someone posted it here before. Also some girls told me abotu a american that had done it before. (i think it was more of a gode to get me to the room) down side was you could not use the room until late. I forget when try a search and you might get it.
secondly the wages of the girls. I will say that i understand the motive but it is liek you get a bad deal either way. If it is deal you cant sit 2 min with out being attacked but the girls you dont want. When you take a girl she wants extras and wont shut up about it. (once i had a heavy german girl that i only went with because she was friends with betty fron cuba damn i had to push her off of me to not CIM because i am sure she would have charged me last time i go with a girl just becuase here friend is good*.) then if it is busy real busy then you get the rush job from all but the best girls and even sometimes from them. SO i like the early afternon of fridays and saturdays and even sundays. just busy enough most times to keep them off you case quiet enough to get some couch time with a regular or even a new fav. and plent of room to lay around and enjoy the facilities.
*betty is not great GFE but a crazy PSE she also speaks good english and does anal for a charge of course
Boka D- Yes, there are locked VIP rooms that you can sleep in for 100 euro, from 4 or 5 AM until 10 AM,and then if you want to stay the next day you must pay another 65 euro by 11 AM. And I too hope Anka is doing better- when she gets into it she is a little hottie. She needs to carpe diem.
Pilot- I see you have done the Christina/Gabrielle threesome experience too? -it is incredible. Lil Christine sold that one when she joined Gabrielle and me on the couch one day. Poor Christine is having back problems but is at World when she works.
And Dedalus. Gabrielle? Bitchy?? - hell yes. After declining to go with Gabrielle to a room as a solo since, she has been bitchy to me as well, to the point where I had to tell her I didn't want to hear from her at the bar one night. She can be hot, as Desert Fox knows, just very moody but who needs that?
beffen
Beffen, Ortos, Novize,
It was my first posting on the board and I’m very happy to get so many reactions from you all.
Fist of all I’m glad that Christina (she’s one of my favorites) is still in the World. And I hope to meet her again in April. And yes I must admit I had some wonderful experiences with Christina and Gabriella. Most regrettable I’m not that lucky to have the threesome experience with them. Gabriella indeed is sometimes a little bit crazy I think but when she is in a good mood, she really is HOT.
Maybe someone can tell Christina there will be a visit from Belgium at the end of April. She will know who it is (hopefully)!
Novize, we will probably be there on the 27th and on the 29th of April. We will be on holiday in Germany (Cochem/Mozel) until Sunday and we will need Saturday to recover from our trips to the FKKW. If you only get there 3 times a year you have to do it good. Maybe you can join us?
Boka D, there is a very good hotel in Giessen - “Hotel Tandreas” (www.hotel-tandreas.de).
I have stayed there myself a few times and it’s perfect (+- 100€) and most of all it’s only a few kilometres from the FKKW.
Greetings,
Pilot 7
Having slept a night over it, I think there might occur some problems regarding the hotel-issue:
1. FKK-World will most probably not be able to set up a bill as "Hotel Grüninger Hof" or any other name than it´s own.
2. The CC-receipt will certainly not show a hotel-name at all.
3. As far as I know, the club charges 10% fee on CC-payments.
100,00 € room fee
65,00 € entrance fee
16,50 € CC-fee
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181,50 € overall per night.
At the current exchange rate this would be approx. 242,40 $/night, that´s above your company´s limit.
If you can find a solution for problems 1 and 2, you might call the phone number I mentioned below. If you stay there for more than one night, they might be willing to bargain.
If not, did you try to book a hotel near World? Giessen/Pohlheim might be quiet unaffected by a trade fair happening in Frankfurt.
Have fun,
Novize
For those interested in team mongering, I'll be at FKKW this Thursday and Friday. Can pick people up in Frankfurt if needed. Also have some V to share. Not sure if I got a bad batch and would like others feedback.
Oh, I was serious about expensing a room there. There's nothing blatantly obvious in the name. At least not to Americans and maybe I could pay cash and get them to write a paper receipt. Too bad I didn't know they had overnight rooms sooner.
Having slept a night over it, I think there might occur some problems regarding the hotel-issue:
1. FKK-World will most probably not be able to set up a bill as "Hotel Grüninger Hof" or any other name than it´s own.
2. The CC-receipt will certainly not show a hotel-name at all.
3. As far as I know, the club charges 10% fee on CC-payments.
100,00 € room fee
65,00 € entrance fee
16,50 € CC-fee
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181,50 € overall per night.
At the current exchange rate this would be approx. 242,40 $/night, that´s above your company´s limit.
If you can find a solution for problems 1 and 2, you might call the phone number I mentioned below. If you stay there for more than one night, they might be willing to bargain.
If not, did you try to book a hotel near World? Giessen/Pohlheim might be quiet unaffected by a trade fair happening in Frankfurt.
Have fun,
NovizeYou can split up the charges so that only the room would be billed. That would get you under the per diem of your company. Most companies don't really care what name it is billed under. They assume you know better. However, is it risk losing your job if someone associates the name with a FKK. You never know. There is always someone at work that puts their nose is everyone else's business.
Alex P Keaton
03-18-05, 22:24
I am in Frankfurt through March 23.
If anyone wants some company on a trip to World, just drop me a private message.
In order of appearance:
----Thursday----
Anka:
Tall, skinny/lithe, medium length red hair, 21, country?
She seemed in a better mood than last time and she sure looks lovely, so why not? She was willing to spend some time on the couch. Good sign, but nothing memorable. Once we got to the room I was very suprised to find that BJ & DATY were not on her list of approved activities. I got the feeling I was there to entertain her, not the other way around. Got bitched at for coming too soon (first of the night, what can I say...). She is definately not a GFE and post sex activity mostly involved her staring in boredom at the wall while ignoring anything I said. Minus the hangups she could be someones great PSE, just not mine. She did say something about needing "a good hard fuck". She looks great, but I didn't feel the chemistry, went for it anyway. We've all done and regretted it, some of us just never learn the lesson. Oh, she had a 21st (As I recall) birthday this past Wednesday.
Would not repeat.
Ramona:
Romanian, 26, tall, long black hair, a little extra weight around the middle, tends to hang out by herself in the back left corner of the main room.
Ramona's popularity has spread and she can be hard to find. Quite the busy girl. She never rushed me though, not from couch to room and not from the room after finish. Really really excellent GFE with a good level of playfullness in the room. There's no excuse to go to World without seeing Ramona. She works every day, usually until 0500. She's not perfect but her good qualities far outweight any minor faults. Also, she mentioned something about going on vacation next month for three (I think) weeks.
Would repeat daily.
Daniela:
Romanian, half spanish, medioum heigth, medium length brown hair, 29.
Wow. A very down to earth girl. One of the few willing to splash around in the pool. Friendly and fun to talk to. Very PSE in the room. Has a roaming tongue... As opposed the Anka, the post sex activies here involved her continued efforts to get me going one more time... One of those girls who really likes sex and wants lots of it. My idea of a great PSE. A very nice find.
Would repeat.
----Friday----
Cordelia:
Nor romanian, token female WSG member
Difficult to review one of our own.... Lets just say that she is very good at certain things and has the pussy of a 20yo girl. Some interesting peircings.
From what I saw Cordelia was quite the busy girl. Some of the other girls could definitely learn from her. She has business cards! I should have had mine autographed.
Would repeat.
Anda:
Romanian, medium/short height, short brown hair.
Playfull and feisty. Excellent BJ. Willing to go further than most on the couch. Not really a GFE. Conversation and cuddling is limited. Not really a PSE either.
Somewhere in between. Feisty is really the best way to describe her, in the room and out. Doesn't shortchange the time but doesn't extend it either. Great body, knows how to use it. Can be hard to find at times.
Would repeat.
Hanna (sp?):
Hungarian, tall (167cm), skinny/lithe, short red hair, 20 (I think), used to work at FKKW 2.
One of the best looking girls in the club. Great model like body, no clue how to use it. The sex and BJ were't really pleasurable. Had that bored, staring in to space, "I don't want to be here" look I usually associate with Russian girls. Interesting to talk to though. She seems like a nice person, but...
Would not repeat if free.
Ramona:
Well, you know by now...she rocks.
Seems a little shy. Won't approach me if I'm chatting with another girl. Will stand by somewhere close and wait for me. Very sweet. Anyone else get this behaviour? Saw her fully clothed on the way out. Didn't recognize her until she came over to say hi. Was unrecognizable and about 2 feet shorter.
As mentioned before, she is going to be on vacation for a couple of weeks next month.
Stephanie/Stefka:
Bulgarian, short, medium length brown hair, dark tanned skin, been here 3 years, used to work at Atlantis.
A fun little girl. I hadn't planned another session but she was playfull in the pool and I've never had bad sex with a Bulgarian, so... Again, one of the girls willing to play around and jump in to the pool or sauna with nothing expected.
Claims to be the real sister (as she put it, "one mama, one papa" of another girl working there (Viola). Good sex. Similar experience to Anda. Something didn't quite click with us though.
Wouldn't repeat, would recommend to a friend.
Cut and paste your post to somewhere safe before you submit or you will be typing it thrice!
Saw a "new to me" girl who says she has been there two years. Olga, Russian, tall, red hair. Any info?
Had the pleasure of running in to a young lady I haven't seen since October. Jen, german, short, blond, glasses. No GFE, just good fun sex. Claims she goes to the Partytreffs after work. Unfortunately she was going as I was coming. Had a great time with her before. Haven't read anything about her here lately. As a German she is somewhat unique. Info?
Details... one of the girls mentioned that she makes about 500 Euro a night, stays in a local hotel for 17 a day, takes a taxi to work, and doesn't pay any taxes. There's an idea for income and expenses.
Let me go out on a limb here and suggest that the kino sucks. Compared to the one at Palace, it is unused, uncomfortable, and has bad visual quality. I suggest they replace it with a public play and sex room. Lots of cushions, chairs, and flat surfaces.
One of the girls had a customer take of his condom while he was behind her and tried to reenter without letting her know. She was pretty shaken up. I guess it can be hard for the girls to tell the good guys from the bad guys (us of course) and so we suffer for their stupidity.
I've noticed the youngest providers look great but the service usually sucks. I'm thinking about subjecting myself to a 23+ rule.
Some of the girls seem a little pouty (or worse) when you turn them away. Wish they would accept that every girl is not going to be a match for every guy.
I've really come to like the girls that are willing to fool around and just have fun. Pool, sauna, dancing, etc... In the end I think it earns them more business and I wish more of the girls were like that. It really helps the atmoshphere. Fun outside the room is usally fun in the room as well.
I passed on Andrea twice. She seems a little more jaded than before. Also maybe a little moody if you end up with another girl. Just my impressions.
The girls definitely talk shit about customers...
Staying around till closing seems to be a good idea. Around 2-3 the place clears out and the girls are very willing to spend time or play around. Really they just want some company.
I was talking to some of the girls. Some of them are aware about the online posts. Some are cool with it, most were a little wary. The biggest concern I heard is that we are posting what goes on in the room.
FKKW 2, anyone been there?
Boka
Damn I wish I could remember all their names.
It's like I was telling this one girl while I was getting drunk at the Sports Bar, usually I prefer blondes, but this trip it seemed I was seeing nothing but brunettes. Then again I guess it doesn't really matter what color their hair is when they're sucking my dick.
Did anybody like Janet? The 18 year old with the big firm bouncy tits? What beautiful young tender juicy pussy that was.
NB
it is quite a change to go to an fkk knowing that you will meet someone who is not primarily interested in extracting euros from your wallet (secondarily interested - of course you pay the usual rates - but not primarily ;-) ), does not fabricate fantasy stories about herself and is genuinely keen to get to know you. and wants really good sex herself.
it was early on friday. i recognized cordelia as soon as i entered the big main room and waved from the corner. she came hastening over to meet me as if greeting an old friend. heads turned over at the bar. it was the start of her second spell at world and she was genuinely pleased to have been welcomed back so warmly by the staff and girls. all she now had to do was start to work. i was her first scalp, and of course i had firmly planned this to be so. but the great pleasure for me was that our (good and lengthy) session was framed by long chats, which continued at various quiet moments in the afternoon. so, guys, if you want to do yourself a great favour, you’ll zip along that a5 motorway to meet a very interesting, kind person and joyfully sexy lady this week while she is still there. it will be a day with a difference for you.
cordelia was ever curious as to who my second (and last, time was short) kill of the day was going to be. she lost her bets, because i eventually reeled in christine from poland. in fact, it started inauspiciously, i was getting bad, indifferent signals from christine, but memory told me that this blonde beauty had been given good reports on the forum, so i decided to see what would happen. but hear this: no sooner in the room and she was cautioning me, she had heard from the girls i must be from the forum and had seen me talking to the english woman, and no reporting, ok, no reporting, she didn’t want unbearable guys bringing the reports to reception and the bar and demanding christine, and the service they had read about :-) :-) apparently this had happened to her in the past. i responded the only proper way, by telling her we could abort the session if she had no “lust”. of course she had “lust”.
so here’s the report, guys :-) : i took christine to the big room with the trapeze hanging from the ceiling. know the one i mean? the one with the extra high ceiling for this purpose. her speciality is to swing sexily around the room on the trapeze, and when you are ready, fly in, swooping down from one corner and impaling herself on your member. hair flying, eyes closed, no hands. incredible. really. you must try it. go on, go to the bar this week and ask for christine, the trapeze artist, ask her to do it for you, and tell her i recommended her. she will be absolutely delighted. :-) :-). well no, on second thoughts, don’t do that, and careful with ambitious impalements too, if i were you. but no, christine, i know you read the reports and you will not silence or muzzle tosc, free-flying spirit of the ether, on a forum like this. but i will say something in all seriousness: you were a second, very very good session indeed.
Boka D,
Olga, the tall, red-haired russian girl is really not new to World. I never had the pleasure to share a room with her (I´m just asking myself, why. Perhaps I´ll get a chance to approach her this afternoon ;) ), but all guys I know who had had this pleasure, were talking about a great session afterwards.
Novize
I would avoid Olga. She is really mechanical and not a gfe. Nice eye candy though, and that gets her enough business. Most regulars avoid her for the attitude.
I finally got to read the reports from Cordelia's and Shiatsu's visit to World last month and felt that I should offer a bit of gratitude to her. Cordelia: thank you for posting about your time in World and the perspective you gave. it was quite interesting to read about what the girls' view is. I do notice that, for the most part, they do take great care and pride in their appearance. Their hair is just so, the makeup applied, and even the perfume (when applied) compliments the package. More often that not, it's the package that closes it for me. I tend not to go for the rushed experience (except for that Romanian girl who cornered me in the downstairs hallway) and the converstaion/caressing on the couch helps set up the session.
It was quite interesting, but my first time in World, I spent nearly two! hours talking with Gabriella from Poland. During this time, we talked at length about the FKK experience from her perspective. I was blown (literatively and figuratively :>) away by her frankness and view on life. While she did not have any friends or acquaintainces there, she did confirm that the girls don't talk about the men much. In fact, her complaint was that too many of the girls wanted to be her friend. She simply wanted to keep the work separate from her private life, which I tend to agree with. In any case, it was a rare instance when the girl just wanted to talk without any guarantee for €50 notes (which I later doubled down anyway).
Maybe not in World,
But in some other clubs, where the girls have been working there together for a long time they do talk about a lot of customers. I have been to the room with some girls in some of my regular clubs for the first time and they alredy know quite a bit about what i like and don't like in the room.
I have also had a lot of girls tell me about other guys and what they are into.
Sorry to break the illusion guys.
Maybe not everybody at World,
but some girls definitely tlak to each other about the men in the clubs. Certainly a lot of regulars are known by the girls, and information on them is exchanged.
euro
March 20th, the beginning of spring – and the first halfway sunny weekend without snow this year. During the short walk from the parking lot to the entrance of my “summer camp” I was full of pleasant anticipation for the things to come in the next months. The sun was shining, the birds were singing and I could already imagine myself lying on one of the canvas-chairs beneath the outdoor-pool, talking with the girls as they walk by or just watching the happy couples on their way to or back from one of the huts… Club-life can be great!
But this were dreams of the future. At the moment, it´s still too cold to stay outside for long…
Due to the party that had happened the evening before, there were only a few women and male guests at World, when I arrived at 2:30 p.m. – it became much more lively in the late afternoon and evening.
I had a nice and interesting talk with Cordelia before I made my initial tour through the club to see who´s there and what´s new. For the first time this year I walked through the garden, too and recognized that the outdoor-pool was being cleaned by the janitor. Great times ahead… ;)
I placed myself at the upper bar and had a cappuccino, when Romanza/Ramona approached me. After a nice, absolutely unrushed warm-up at the bar we had a wonderful session in one of the VIP-rooms.
Her stats again:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
I placed myself on a couch near the dining area after this session and was lost in thoughts, when a blond, Russian girl approached me: Katharina from Belorus or Russia (perhaps Boka´s Katya?). Katharina was one of my favourite girls at World in summer of 2003. She had worked at Oase and Atlantis before World´s opening in 2003 and went back to Atlantis in autumn 03. She quit the job in December 2003, but is back in business now – at least for some weeks. I remember a lot of what she told me back in 03 (and what she did to me... ;) ), but not her origin. I wasn´t ready for the next session and so she left me after a short small-talk.
Later in the evening I was ready for the next session, and so I approached Katharina at the upper hall. After some minutes she asked me to take a wlk with her and I agreed. To my surprise, she didn´t go for a room immediately, she headed towards the Relaxzone first, where we chatted for about 15 minutes, until finally I suggested to go for a room.
Katharina had been very conservative in the Relaxzone, but this changed as soon as we were in the room. We had a wonderful GFE-session, second not even to my sessions with Ramona! Katharina plans to stay for some more weeks before going back home and eventually coming back to World in September.
Her stats:
name: Katharina
origin: Belorus or Russia
born: ~ 1978
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
After some sleep I looked out for Ramona or Katharina for the final session. Katharina had already left the club (she works in the dayshift), but sweet Ramona was still there. Great session again. As she told me she will go on vacation on April 8th and plans to come back on April 26th.
My next visit is planned for April 3rd.
Have fun,
Novize
From the descriptions Novize’s Katharina sounds like Boka D’s Katya. But maybe Boka will confirm.
What has been confusing me for 3-4 weeks now is that I have my own Katya at World! Another beauty, another good, unrushed GFE performer, another one from Belarus (Minsk, or so she says). Everything sounded as if Boka D’s Katya was the same girl. But the one I met 4 weeks ago is not blonde, rather has longish curly mid-brown hair. I thought she might have dyed her hair, but, no, last Friday she was there again with the same hair. And she has a tattoo (don’t ask me where, I can never remember). So it does look as if there are two.
As I rarely repeat, I didn’t speak with “my” Katya last Friday, leaving it at a hello and many smiles during the afternoon. Stupid.
Does anyone know “my” Katya? Other clues: just started when I met her. Speaks good German, next to no English. Very pretty round face with large sensuous lips. Said she was 22. About 165 cms. She hangs around with red Olga and another Russian with long blonde hair (or is THIS BD’s Katya?). All very confusing. Just have to go back to sort all this out :>) At any rate “my” one is also a recommend.
Dangerous Dan
03-30-05, 00:24
On Saturday I arrived at World at about 16:30. For This was my seventh visit to World since I discovered its delights in September last year. Unfortunatly the selection on offer could not compete with last Autumn, however there was plenty on offer, especially if you like Romanians.
For the first half hour I cruised around checking out the sights and then I ran in to my all time favorite Andrea as she was arriving. It was interesting to see her fully dressed. It's funny how men probably spend their life wondering what women we see would look like naked. I now find my self doing the opposite at the FKK's. Thankfully Andrea looked as good as I hoped she would. After a quick chat, Andrea headed off to get ready for work.
Twenty minutes later Andrea was ready for work and thankfully came looking for me to start her day. We headed down stairs to the relaxation zone to catch up with what's happened in the past three months since we last met. We then headed off to a room for two hours of bliss. I seem to have an Andrea addiction, I just can't have a short session with her.
Later that evening I was approached by Hanna (not 100% sure??) of Hungary. I couldn't help feeling that she may have been Romanian, but at the end of the day I didn't care. Hanna has a very petit body in the Andrea mould and a very nice face. Unusually she was not wearing platforms, so the was none of the usual shrinkage once in the room.
The session with her was memorable in a negative way as it seems that my Andrea session had taken it out of me. I will give Hanna high marks for effort. She only gave partial GFE, but perhaps she will be better second time around, which I am willing to try.
DD
Dangerous Dan
03-30-05, 00:54
After visiting Palace and Oase early in the day, it was time for my second visit to World for the weekend.
Upon entering the main room, to my "relief" my beloved Andrea was no where to be seen, so for the moment my addiction wasn't going to get the better of me and cost me a couple of hundred euro.
After cruising around for a while I decided to sit down upstairs and see who approached me. After a short while, I was approached by a blonde Romanian whos name escapes me. She told me she was 24 but looked older (which she probably was). It was her first week at World and she said that she used to work in a private house in Hannover.
After a little while kising on the couch (lover to try an thrust her tongue in) we headed of to the Cinema for some BBBJ. Eventually we went into a room where the BBBJ continued until it was time for some fucking. She was quite a moaner. I would like to think that it was me making her do it, but I'm sure it was just part of the "show". What ever the truth, it did it's trick and before too long I was complete. It was one of the few times at an FKK that I had a 30min session with no extras and I throughly enjoyed it €50 well spent :-)
A little later I ran into Hanna of Hungary who I met the night before. This time she was wearing platforms which made it strange to be talking to her at eye level. I had a brief chat to Andrea as well, but as I was totally spent, even my addiction for her couldn't stop me from going to my hotel for a well deservered rest.
After visiting World, Oase and Palace on the weekend, I I still think that World is by far the best club for me. I feel so much more comfortable there than in any other place. I just can't get into Oase and Palace, while I like it, it's probably too small when it's busy.
World is far from perfect, but if the same level of quality girls return with the spring as there were last September........ :-)
DD
FKK World is a "must go" place for every true hobbyist. I finally made it during my last FKK Tour. As for novices, the last complete report about FKK world needs to be found a few hundred reviews before, find hereafter my complete review.
I found FKK World using my GPS and entering the following adress GruningerWeg 35415 Pohlheim-Garbenteich. As there is no street number, the GPS stopped me in the middle of the road. But a few hundred meters further, there was a clear sign indicating FKK World.
Without GPS, here again a quote past of the very usefull FKK World for Dummies (didn't try it):
Start at Kaiserslautern in A63 direction Mainz ~ 65 km.
At junction Mainz-Sued change to A6 direction Darmstadt/Frankfurt ~ 20 km.
At junction Moenchhof-Dreieck change to A3, direction Frankfurt ~ 10 km.
At junction Frankfurter Kreuz change to A5, direction Kassel ~ 60 km.
Leave A5 at exit Fernwald.
At the exit turn right. Next possibility left, at the next crossing turn right. At the traffic light turn left. Next possibility right, then again right towards a sporting field. Stay on this street, passing a railway junction. Now you can see FKK-World left hand. ~ 10 km.
FKK World opens every day from 10am till 5am. I Stayed there all the day (19 hours in paradise!). There are two parking lots P1 and P2. Once out of the parking, you walk toward the entrance. On the right side, there is a building with private rooms for the girls (they can rent a room 15 Euro/day). The entrance is the building on the left side.
Surprisingly, there is not the usual buzzer, you enter directly in the lobby. I haven't seen during my entire stay any visible security guards, they probably don't have to fear anything, as it is well known that the Club belongs to the Hells Angels. You pay the entrance fee (65 euro) to the lady behind the counter, you give you'r shoe size and she will give you you'r locker key and you'r first bath towel. At any time later, you can take new towels at the entrance. You'r sandals will be waiting for you inside you'r locker. The lockers room is the door behind the counter on the left side.
You undress yourself, putting everything exept you'r wallet in the locker. You'r wallet can be left in a separete security locker (same number and same key as the previous locker), also in the locker's room. This is more convenient for you when you will need to pay the girls after every session. In the locker rrom, you will also find the bin where you will have to leave you'r sandals when leaving the club, as well as a bin for the towels.
The showers are right behind the locker's room, as well as the toilet. You are supposed to take a shower at entrance and after very session. There are other showers in the basement of the building. You can change you'r towel after every shower.
Put your towel around you'r whaist (this is not easy for the first time) and enter the paradise, right behind the curtain of the locker's room!
FKK World is the house of a former millionaire, and the facilities are by far the biggest of all the FKK in Germany. The main room looks like a disco with a bar (non alcaholic drinks are for free all the day long), a dancing stage, disco lightings, numerous couches and plasma TV screens showing porns (who is going to look a porn here, as what you see for real looks much better!). this is the main meeting place, most girls will be here. Behind a curtain there is a movie theatre showing also porns. Here is usually where a lot of couch action is happening. Close to the main room is also the dining room, a big dining table and a buffet offering also all day long food for free. Feel free to eat toghether with a girl here.
Downstairs is a big indoor swimming pool. Most people seem to fear to swim here, but it is nice to sit around and look the nakes girls pass allong. There is also a huge Jacuzzi, a massage salon, a Hammam and two Saunas around. A nice place to hang around is the cozy lounge with fireplace and numerous couches. At the back there is an alcaholic bar including Champagne, but few use this facility, as you need to pay additional for it.
Outside there is a large garden outdoor pool and sun deck, but usefull only during summer.
Everything is very clean, all the night long, the management takes care about this. The management is very helpfull and friendly.
Atmosphere is very relaxed. Most customers you will encounter in this FKK are 30-40 years old Germans, a few Turkish and an occasional American. I discussed a while with an Afro-American having a great time here (like me!). There was also an Asian American that night, but didn't get in touch with him. I always wonder if there is another WSG member. We should have like a small distinctive sign in order to recognize ourself. If the girls get to know it, they might even take care also to give us the best service!
Now, most important, the girls! Expect about 25 girls between 10am and 6pm, and between 12pm and 5am. But during 6pm and 12pm, both "shifts" are present, so expect about 50 girls in the evening. Only Oase has a bigger line up. The girls are nearly all aged between 20 and 25, and nearly all rated 7-8. A few dogs (overweighted or overaged), but also a few 9 stunners. Most of the girls are Eastern European (Russian, Hongarian, Ukrainian, Romenian...), a few German, a few blacks (Caribbean or African), and some occasional other nationality. Diversity and quantity enough to find what you are looking for. All girls are naked, so WYSIWYG!
All girls speak German, but most will speak also enough English.
Pricing is very simple: 50€ every 30 min (includding BBBJ, FS and nearly always DFK), and 50 Euro additional for CIM or COB. Action can happen anywhere, but most commonly you will go with her to one of the numerous bedrooms. No key hassling like in some Dusseldorf area FKK. The bedrooms are quite simple, some however are more luxious and have for example mirrors.
It is possible to hire a VIP room. This room is even available for 100€ between 5am and 10 am. If you agree with a girl to stay, this allows you to stay in FKK World till the next day, that means 24 hour a day sex!
You can either approach the girl, or she will approach you. Discussing is free, as well as touching, but once DFK or BBBJ is starting, the session is supposed to start. The girls in FKK World are allowed to softly hassle you, wich makes all the scene very erotic. My advise is to try to get the girl to know a bit before the session, to be sure there is a good chemestry.
I stayed for 19 hours in FKK World, having 6 sessions, but the time between the sessions is part of the fun. I remember at 3am being so tired, lying on a couch, looking to all the nakes girls around me, having two girls gently hassling me, trying to get my dick again ready for a session with two girls (pricing 50 Euro each, that simple!). Paradise!
I had a very nice session with a small lightskinned petite Cubana (can't remember her name). She was happy to speak Spanish with somebody. As soon as a girl starts to speak Spanish, she looks much more sexy to me. I love latina girls! There was a very nice chemistry between us, she was very active during the sessions.
That night, I had sex with Yasmeen Bleeth from Baywatch! At least I couldn't see the difference. Her real name is Maria, she is from Romania, has 24 years old and some incredible beautiful blue eyes. Yes, some girls look really like movie stars.
When in FKK, you will sometimes get a true GFE. I met a 24 year's old 9 rated girl named Sarah, French and Iranian Origin. The type of Mediteranean style that drives me crazy. She was happy to be able to speak French with me. We discussed a long time together at the bar, discovering that whe had a lot of things in common. While talking together I looked inside her beautiful eyes and felt like falling in love. She took a shewing gum. I asked if she had one for me. It was her last one, so she kissed me and gave me her shewing gum. Once in the room, it was a true GFE session. I won't give you the technical details of our session, we made love.
After the session, we ate together. We stayed together nearly all the night, but sometimes I leaved hear, as she had to work also. Late in the night, she was tired, so was I, so we went together to sleep for half an hour in a bedroom, side by side. These are those moments that make FKK so magical, when you don't know anymore if you're a friend or a customer for her. My last session of the night was also with her. Hope to see her again.
Overall, FKK World is one of the best FKK, only Oase can compete with it. Facilities are better in World, Oase becomes overcrowded especially between 6pm and 12pm. The girls line up is probably better in Oase. I prefer may be Oase, as girls seem to earn more money there, are less pushy for sex late in the night and more willing to simply discuss.To choose between the two is a matter of personal choice and experience.
Thanks for that!
Some remarks about the "Extras":
COB is "Officially" priced at 50,- €, but is highly negotiable down to 0,- €.
Another Extra is anal, "officially" priced at 100,- €, but - as discussed here earlier - is negotiable down to 50,- €.
And a little correction: There is no Hamam at World, it´s a steambath.
Personally, I wouldn´t count a few minutes of DFKing or BBBJ on the couch against the clock, and I never had problems with that. But at least BBBJ seals a contract and you can´t/shouldn´t step back anymore.
Have fun,
Novize
Is Olga, a tall red hair russian girl, still in World?
Thanks
Thank you, but not only for your reaction on my report. Yes, as I tried to confirm that you where the same Novice I once discussed with about Oase, I discovered that somebody asked to bann me and that you defended me against him (see the section complaints about other members).
The guy complainted that I was spaming the Dutch section. In fact I have made the complete list of Dutch Brothels, similar to the famous Kaleus FKK Club Index. I think he didn't realize the job it is to make such a list, compiling all the available information (Yellow Page, WSG and Dutch forum reports, Internet sites, personal experience...). I always try to share all my available usefull information to the other members. I know it is impossible to have everybody as a friend, but I was quite disappointed about his reaction. When you look how some members are cladding up some sections! It's impossible to find usefulll information in some sections like the USA section or the Thailand section.
Anyway, hope to meet you once for real during my next FKK Tour Novice!
Anyway, hope to meet you once for real during my next FKK Tour Novice!
Send me a PM with your tour dates and I´ll try to get a ticket... ;)
Have fun,
Novize - with "z" ;)
Remy - Yes Olga is definitely there. But sh edoes not work everyday
I went to World three times over the holiday period. The atmosphere changed radically from day to day. It seemed to depend on the mix of women.
On the first day (Friday) there were very few men and the dominance of the Rumanians seemed to be overwhelming, despite half a dozen black girls. This nationality dominance would not be a problem except for the well documented tendency for the Rumanian girls to avoid couch action and for their habit of stopping men and expecting them to go to a room just because the girl says "ficky ficky", And of course the tendency to give less than the half hour in a room. So, I was unwilling to part with any euros on any Rumanian longshot. Things were tense - the girls were getting no customers - about 8 girls for each man I would guess. Even the lovely Rumanian Julia was trying to catch my eye (but I would not go with her as she nearly always finishes in a room after about 15/20 minutes).
However I met Andrea and she agreed to go to a room with me. Once we established that Cordelia was not going to come in and kill her we settled down. Usually our meetings are mainly talk but this time other things had become more pressing. I had written Andrea off after reading comments about her so was surprised to find that all her good points seemed to be better than before. She was by far the best sex worker I have paid to be with. After having been with her there really seemed no point in going with anybody else (which meant I had a long wait until Cordelia finished for the evening so we could go back to the hotel) .
Generally the atmosphere and lack of men gave the place a desperate feel and I wondered how long it could last. The huge numbers of Rumanian newcomers makes it hard for the club to get a good feel as there is so much turnover.
Worth mentioning is how friendly the staff are - maybe because they recognise me. It's always nice to be welcomed back. Being an Englishman makes me stand out
Day Three was a Monday. (I will report on Day Two later)And it was great . The club had a much better ratio of men to women - about 2 women for every man. And many of the girls were away . This meant there was no longer a sea of indistinguishable girls saying "zimmer, zimmer". The atmosphere felt very close to Atlantis - the girls were cheerful, and particularly downstairs were relaxing with the men. The girls were no longer desperate for every man so were able to relax and therefore give the men a better atmosphere.
I also notice a group of Rumanians who kept separate from the others and were offering a much more friendly service. None of the "I'm sitting here bored and you owe me 50 E attitude" instead "Hi, you're nice, can we chat together and have a cuddle" attitude - i.e open smiling friendly faces, This seemed a good sign
This all made me realise how fine a line there is between a brilliant club and a mediocre one. It's all down to intangibles of attitude. This particular evening was brilliant (I was there from 14.00 until 22.00)
I didn't get approached much but that was partly because the girls had realised that I am married to Cordelia and they assumed that I would therefore not go to a room. How wrong!. Some I would not go with since I saw that they did not give the half-hour to other men.
Andrea had declined my company when I caught her as she came out of the changing room, but 5 minutes later she asked me. I had a marvellous two hour session with her and we said goodbye, only to find that I had accidentally underpaid her, and almost run out of money. I had enough so was able to avoid being marched to the cashmachine by a stern Andrea. That's a professional worker. I would give her a 5* recommendation (the only person I prefer is Cordelia - but then I guess I would like people with similar attitudes and abilities around sex, people and life in general).
The only bad thing was that I can't go off with Cordelia as she was working!! (sometimes audibly...)
I left the club thinking it was the best I'd seen for a couple of years. Unlike on other recent visits to this and other clubs, most of the girls and the men were coming out of the rooms looking happy and cuddling. I noticed that Andrea, Cordelia and a couple of others always did this (even on other nights) and that their clients always looked like they had had a good time., There seems no point in paying to go to a room if when you come out the girl looks bored and walks ahead of you. I know I'm fussy but I expect decent service for my money
And if someone is in Frankfurt it would be worth the 30 minute drive to get there.
Provided the clients at FKKW keep an eye on which girls shortchange and make it clear they expect a bit of cuddling etc on couches etc then FKKW could be a reliably brilliant club. It has good facilities, the staff are friendly, the downstairs bar when open at weekends adds a relaxed positive feel, and the etnic mix of the girls is wider than it sometimes appears from the Rumanians occupying the upstairs couches near the bar
Hi Novize,
You posted these 3 hotels as being near FKK World , do you know exactly how they are from the club? Are any walking distance?
Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
very old-fashioned, not comfortable, but with 26,- €/night incl. breakfast very cheap.
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
Cheers
Fred
Ps I think you and Shiatsu should recieve a commision from the clubs for all the great information you both provide !!!!
"Zum Grünen Baum" is approx. 1 km away from World.
The two other Hotels are approx. 15 km away, too far for a walk, I think.
Have fun,
Novize
but it´s good to read that Andrea is still a top provider.
When the Romanians cry "fickie, fickie" or "Zimmer, Zimmer", it shows at least one good development: they have improved their german skills... :rolleyes:
The direct comparison of days one and three shows again, that a girl/guy-ratio of 2:1 is (beneath other factors) nearly perfect for a good day at a club.
Hoping for a good ratio on sunday,
Novize
This was the holiday weekend Saturday. Some of the girls had gone home so the number of girls was not as high as on the Friday. But first thing there were about 8 girls for each man (compared to Oase and palace where the ratio was much more even - in my report on Palace I mistakenly said I was there on Sunday - it was actually Saturday - too many FKK entrances addled my mind). So the atmosphere was a bit tense with the girls unable to get any custom.
However around 16.00 it picked up so the ratio came out about 2 to 1 - Member 2974 magic formula for success!. And suddenly the atmosphere changed - the girls relaxed as they realised they would at least make enough money to cover their entrance fees. The downstairs bar opens in the evening so the girls can take time out. My memory is a bit hazy but the number of men tailed off around 20.00 which is odd for a Saturday. So Cordelia and I left. This day was a bit of a non-event for me - I did not go to a room with anybody (having had a large amount of money extracted by my occasional companion Andrea the previous day!!) and other girls not really having learnt the art of selling themselves. The early evening was a foretaste of the excellent next day.
In general I do not think that Easter is a good time to go to FKK. For an English person the total shutdown which occurs in Germany at holiday times is a major shock - it permeates everything - especially the attendance at FKKs
Fred - Bear in mind that if you stay in Pohlheim there really is absolutely nothing to do in the area without a car apart from go to World (you could get a bus to and from Giessen if you wanted something in the day).
so if anyone is around i might see ya there. Second I would like to know if anyone had seen the outdoor area is it already runing or is it still to cold?
rd
I assume you fly into Frankfurt. How far the fkk clubs from town, can I take cab to them. Please help.
This was the holiday weekend Saturday. Some of the girls had gone home so the number of girls was not as high as on the Friday. But first thing there were about 8 girls for each man (compared to Oase and palace where the ratio was much more even - in my report on Palace I mistakenly said I was there on Sunday - it was actually Saturday - too many FKK entrances addled my mind). So the atmosphere was a bit tense with the girls unable to get any custom.
However around 16.00 it picked up so the ratio came out about 2 to 1 - Member 2974 magic formula for success!. And suddenly the atmosphere changed - the girls relaxed as they realised they would at least make enough money to cover their entrance fees. The downstairs bar opens in the evening so the girls can take time out. My memory is a bit hazy but the number of men tailed off around 20.00 which is odd for a Saturday. So Cordelia and I left. This day was a bit of a non-event for me - I did not go to a room with anybody (having had a large amount of money extracted by my occasional companion Andrea the previous day!!) and other girls not really having learnt the art of selling themselves. The early evening was a foretaste of the excellent next day.
In general I do not think that Easter is a good time to go to FKK. For an English person the total shutdown which occurs in Germany at holiday times is a major shock - it permeates everything - especially the attendance at FKKsYou are forgetting the Sunday's where everything is closed! LOL! I find what makes a difference at a club is one or two girls who you really like. Seems like Andrea is the one for you. Hope Cordelia had a good time. I'm sure there is more than a few guys walking around with a smile.
Paper Poster - public transport - see my post (number 535 under this thread) Other members hav eposted directions under the Oase and Palace threads
Akibono - thanks, Cordelia had a great time and will be doing some brief postings soon
this is from cordelia. after 11 days at world. much of what was in my previous posts holds true, but some additional points may be of interest.
first, i was very sad to leave and have to come home to my proper job!! i had been very warmly welcomed by girls who had seen me before and the staff treated me like a longlost friend. i cannot stress enough how nice they were to me.
second. the sessions i had were generally very enjoyable, but whenever i met someone new i was unable to relax properly until i felt they were not going to try to cheat me. i estimate that over 30% of clients wanted to try sex without a condom or to have an extra without paying. these 30% make it difficult when going with any new man. i thought at first it was because i was new but other gitls said this was about average. these men were also usually the ones who were rough and sometimes were physically inconsiderate (one damaged my back by aggressive womanhandling). i took one man to reception to get the money he owed me.
on the other hand 70% were fine. and many of these were extremely lovely. these men got a better experience since they treated me with respect and consideration. several came back to the club specially to see me a second time. and some of them (german men) actually paid me a tip. this may be partly because i did not rush them into or out of rooms. i found many of the men to be lovely and charming as well as sexy. i always made sure that the men got the full half hour or hour - in the long run it does not pay to try to cheat. i was told by girls that the only way to succeed was to give good service - although some girls obviously don't do this and rely on their looks to get a constant supply of new (but not returning) customers. men should never go with someone who does not give the full time - if all men watched before they went to a room then the service level would be maintained
third. whilst the girls do not talk generally about the men, they did warn me off a couple of men who were known to be rude, and a couple of men were suggested as likely clients for me. this was not so much discussing the men but more a case of discussing the girls’ interests in relation to the men
fourth. it is really hard to spend all day approaching men, especially when there are 6 girls to every man. i did not want to harass the men but on the other hand i did not want to ignore them. it is not possible to tell whether a man is interested or not until i have draped myself all over him!! some of the girls deal with this by very assertive approaches and others by switching off from making the approach. i tried to watch how the more successful girls did it and then emulate them (in my own style). i tried to approach in a friendly way
fifth. when there are too many girls the atmosphere gets very tense. we al feel under pressure to get a man and the men feel under pressure – so many of them go and hide ib the sauna or by the television. the girts still however co-operate – telling each other if all the men are kaputt or having a pause. if there are no men then not only was it difficult to earn money but it was frustrating not to get any sex for hours on end
sixth, my german has improved. but many of the words are not ones found in my german textbook!!
seventh. the girls found it hard to understand how shiatsu and myself could both be in the club at the same time (as we were on three days), shiatsu had to allay th egirls fears that i would kill them!! and some of the girls said that if their man came to a club and went with a girl they would kill him and the girl. but they gradually got used to us and found it less confusing
eighth. i enjoyed wearing the oster party bunny ears. where else could a girl wear platforms and bunny ears and nothing else?
i had a really good time and was really pleased how i handled myself. being in competition with a horde of 20 year olds was a bit risky but i did really well and they accepted me as one of their own. obviously many men only wanted young girls but there were many man who wanted the benefits of someone with more experience. and many of the girls liked having someone older there as it validated their career choice,
many of the girls liked having someone older there as it validated their career choice,
This is one of the great lines of all times! Can I quote it in some business presentations?
This post as some of your previous posts were, is a watershed in the history of posting on this board. Amazing, invaluable intel for all FKK afficianados. Imagine having a "plain clothes" (or "Oster ears" well, you know what I mean) agent infiltrating the FKK ranks. Unbelievable. Jackson should give you the poster of the year award.
And I'm sure if you'd like another career, MI6 or the CIA may be interested in having you lecture their new recruits on what it's really like to go "undercover" (well actually "above towel")
I am in awe of you!
Cordelia, thanks very much for the report. Fascinating as ever. When are you going back? :-)
But this is about something else. On 23rd March I reported my suspicion that there may be two Russian Katyas at the club, the one with long white-blonde hair that Boka D (and others) reported on, and a second one with shoulder length curly brown hair, whom I had met and had had a great experience with. OK, I admit, two Katyas is no great deal at a club which boasts at least three Andreas from different central European countries, but I was still curious. And the riddle so confused this forum that noone posted for seven full days – surely a record. :-) :-)
Well, I returned two days ago, April Fool’s Day, and discovered that I was right. There are two, although blonde Katya introduced herself to me as Katerina. They always hang around together, and go fishing around the club together. I was tempted to ask for a duo, but didn’t in the end.
I had noted a few prospects from this board’s recent reports on FKKW on a piece of paper, and against the name of Katya blonde I had noted “care, nothing special”. So I was prepared for a substandard session perhaps, although experience with Russians (and Czechs) has taught me to give them the benefit of the doubt, and go for it, whatever the reports. In the event I have to state my total disagreement with the “nothing special” bit, as far as Katerina is concerned. Maybe it was because she keeps a slight distance. It may put some off. But how often do we get the effusive, all-charm-and-smiles couch attack and rapid sub-towel homing in, only for it all the interest to be switched off like a light bulb on entering the room? A little distance is fine for me, I can try to break it down later. Anyway, I thought Katerina was bloody marvellous. Looks (23, 170 cms, C breasts, everything nicely proportioned), yes, she’s my type. After five minutes in the room I was extending to an hour, with an call option for three days more. Fine, honest, no-cheating, GFE-style sex. You are not interested in details, but for me the 69 session led me into a state verging on Racinian aesthetic cartharsis :-) :-) OK, as you have gathered, a Tosc recommend.
The April Fool, however, turned out to be me. Among my sessions was one I regretted with Inessa from Latvia (late 20’s, blonde, C breasts, maybe 168 cms). She’s aggressive in a friendly and persuasive way, but no sooner were we in the room, and the upselling began, as the service fell off. I disappointed myself with making such a bad choice with so many good alternatives around. But I had to admire her in retrospect: it takes a lot of nerve and routine to manage riding listless cowboy, preening in the mirror and examining your nails all at the same time. Inessa managed it effortlessly ;-) For my vote, one to avoid.
P.S. Thanks to Routard for his no nonsense driving directions. I have been to World often enough now, but I get lost every f***ing time, without fail. Same happens at Burgholzhausen (what is it that makes these flat Hessen landscapes all look the same, and why is it that, once in a village, I can never get out of it going in the right direction for the club?). In contrast to others I think the club site directions are a disaster – OK, maybe I am the disaster, but this time I found it immediately, thanks to R.
I find the trick to getting to Oase is to follow the signs to Ober-Erenbach until you see the sign pointing the way to Burguhausen. Works every time for me.
Just out of curiosity, how many men are not able to finish or keep it up? I find that my desire always exceeds my capability at these clubs.
Sorry to here that there are still 30% of guys having bad attittude in FKK. There will always be some dick heads, but 30% is way too much. The FKK girls gave me so much that I'm sad hearing that some mess it up. We often warn on this board about having the good attitude, not only because service will be better, but just because the girls deserve to be respected and treated well. Well guys, we have to keep on trying to educate some of the mongerers. Hope that the 30% are not WSG members.
Routard. None of the 30% were wsg members!!. The 30% is only a broad estimate of those who were inconsiderate or trying to pull a fast one (sex without a condom - the new girls always get asked to do this!), Only a very very tiny number were actually physically or verbally aggressive. So my 30% may have given slightly the wrong impression - 70% were very charming and lovely to me, 30% were not, but this does not mean that all 30% were dickheads. Thanks for your support
Akibono. Fair question, But I do not talk about what happens in the room. I will just say that, as other posts have disussed, many men worry about this
Iseeu - you flatter us. If working for the CIA involves walking around naked with lots of men watching your rear end then sign me up straight away (but Shiatsu will decline..). PS I am fed up having to wear clothes for the day job
Cordelia
Akibono - Shiatsu says - If a man has already had three sessions it is no surprise if he doesn't finish or even start!! especially without a little blue pill!! I often don't finish but that may just be a question of priorities....
Cordelia,
Little blue pills make it even less likely that the man will finish. One of the effects is that you are less likely to come. That is one of the reasons I love the ED drugs. It lets me stay up for up to an hour without coming. I do not power fuck the chicks for that whole time, I just sort of slow fuck for as long as I want, and as long as I still think the girl is not annoyed by it.
The girls get upset sometimes if they cannot bring me to come. They have a sort of ambition which makes them feel like they are not good if they cannot make their customers finish. I tell them it is no big deal, but I swear they give their all to make it happen. It is a competitive instinct.
30% is higher than i thought it would be, but it probably is similar if I take the stories of the girls into account.
dont have much timew to chat so just a quick report. First thanks to the members i meet there big help.
4 sessions
miricale
big black girl she seemed nice even if black is not my thing.
average service i will not repeat
ramona
wow what can i say she was great
a romanian black hair long
really a good girl to try if you have not yet but she leaves next week
Andrea
CZ she has been talked about enough she was super i can only recomend her if you like slim slavic girls she is perfect for you i would say she was the best p4p i ever had again thanks for the help
michelle
romania short hair
kind of standard would not repeat
rd
Has anyone actually stayed at the hotels Novize and other have mentioned as being near to FKK World. If so any information about quality would be helpful.
Hi
Soon I will have my first FKK experience and i will try FKK World after reading all the posts. I need your with everything need it to know to ease my first FKK experience. I'm 27 years old but look like 21-22, hope this is not a problem. Any info will be gladly appreciated.
I'll be in Frankfurt most probabely from 8 to 14 April and will be more than happy to meet with WSG members.
Also do you know places to buy Viagra or Cialis in Frankfurt ?
Thank you,
Niky
Hi Shiatsu,
I once stayed overnight at the "Altes Eishus" in Giessen when I took a detour on my way up to northern Germany to check out World in 2003.
It was ok for one night stay, i.e. the rooms were clean. The beds were kind of small, and I would not want to do anything else there but sleep. The staff did not speak English, but somehow I got by with my limited German mixed with some creative acting (well, kind of the same thing I do in FKK when dealing with non english speaking girls, can actually be quite fun sometimes ;-)
Chivaz
I stayed at this hotel too and would stay again. The rooms are small, beds are small, but I was comfortable and I wasn't that far from World. Plus it's also located in a neighborhood instead of a business district so it's quiet.
Doing my search on http://hrs.de it also came back with the lowest price in the area.
There's a resteraunt downstairs, and Monika, the proprieter, and her daughter are two friendly and good looking babes.
NB
Shiatsu,
I have stayed in the Giessen Best Western Steinsgarten on three different occassions. Most of the time it runs about 75 Euros including a great Breakfast Buffett. Get a double room, ecspecially if your bring Cordelia. Try to get a room as high as possible to enjoy the nice view of Giessen. It is located in a very nice quite area, very clean rooms, nice service and is on the way from the Giessen Train Station to World. During the day I enjoyed taking walks to the central shopping areas AND took a day trip to
Marburg to check out the Medieval Castle and nice restaurants/shopping.
I made the reservations on http://www.bahn.de website. Compared to the hotels I have stayed in Frankurt, a very nice change!
Hope to run into you again some day
Carnal1 (Live from Phuket,Thailand)
Has anyone actually stayed at the hotels Novize and other have mentioned as being near to FKK World. If so any information about quality would be helpful.I once stayed at the Etap. It is cheap german efficiency. good place to sleep and nothing else. also, very easy to find.
Niky,
The age thing is no problem. Maybe if you look like a US soldier with a buzz cut you might get a couple of girls who avoid you. Not because they have a problem with the war or anything, just because the soldiers are known for hard core sport-fucking, and a lot of girls don't like that.
Other than that there are no problems, just go to the clubs, sit next to someone who is willing to talk to you and ask him for tips.
Getting Cialis or Viagra without a prescription in Germany is near impossible. The germans take their pharmacies very seriously.
Remember germany is not a sex destination like Brasil or Thailand, it is not really a major industry. 95% of the customers at the clubs are locals, remember this is a wealthy country.
Enjoy yourself, if you have more specific questions feel free to post.
You should also try Palace in town, it gets great reviews.
Akibono: “Just out of curiosity, how many men are not able to finish or keep it up? I find that my desire always exceeds my capability at these clubs.”
Shiatsu: “If a man has already had three sessions it is no surprise if he doesn't finish or even start!! especially without a little blue pill!! I often don't finish but that may just be a question of priorities....”
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Toscana’s 1st Law of Sexual Dynamics states that “the desire of the adult male to propagate remains a life-long constant, but the frequency of his climaxes moves with increasing age in inverse proportion to his ability to afford them”. So sad, so true.
Now, if I think about it, I reckon that is the ultimate polite brush-off if you are bothered at FKKW when kaputt. Quote that one, and they would go away immediately. Not for a long philosophical think, but because they'd think you are really weird. :-) :-)
Toscana’s 1st Law of Sexual Dynamics states that “the desire of the adult male to propagate remains a life-long constant, but the frequency of his climaxes moves with increasing age in inverse proportion to his ability to afford them”. So sad, so true.
Now, if I think about it, I reckon that is the ultimate polite brush-off if you are bothered at FKKW when kaputt. Quote that one, and they would go away immediately. Not for a long philosophical think, but because they'd think you are really weird. :-) :-)
I think the ultimate brush-off is to say: "I have no money left." Works (nearly) guaranteed...
Have fun,
Novize
...before Romanza takes a vacation... :)
On sunday, 3rd, I arrived at World at 1 p.m., showered, shaved, and took a look at the interesting line-up:
Fernando and Michael in the 1st row,
Jarno and Nick in 2nd,
Mark and Ralf in 3rd...
The race was quiet interesting, although disturbed by the stupid commentaries of the allways present Schuhmacher-fans... :(
But maybe you´re not interested in F1, so let´s go for something completely different...
The club is preparing it´s outdoor-facilities for the summer season. The outdoor pool is not fille yet, but teh canvas chairs are already in use. The huts have been renovated and can be used, when it´s just a little bit warmer than now...
And the club was more lively than the weeks before. Seems that lots of men waited for the first sunny days to go back to World again. The place was filled, but not over-crowded.
I met some fellow members and recognized again, how great it can be to meet congenial friends at the club.
My first session this day was with Katharina again. Although my first session with her two weeks before had already been very good, we had some improvement that day. I like this kind of development. Katharina´s service was completely unrushed, very good GFE with still some expectations for further improvements. A recommendation for all GFE-lovers from me.
Her stats again:
name: Katharina
origin: Russia (I asked her this time)
born: ~ 1978
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
Katharina plans to stay at World until end of April. Hurry, guys...
Romanza had just arrived when I was walking to a room with Katharina and looked a little bit sad when she saw us together. So I had to make up for this after the necessary recreation break - and, of course, I had to say goodbye to her until end of April, when she will hopefully return from her vacation. So I did. And in my judgment, shes not a recommendation, she´s a "must" for GFE-lovers!!!
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
The negative experience that night was, that there were too many girls who disturbed me when I was trying to get some sleep in the evening (as aleays, I drive directly to work after the club-visit and therefore I need an hour of sleep). Thought again of a "*****-dunking-tournament", but didn´t organize one...
My last chance for some sleep was to hide in the empty cinema, but all my hopes ware dashed by Georgia from Romania (? didn´t ask, just guessed), who gave me the final blowjob for this night (I was too tired to do anythang than just lay on the couch and watch her working). A nice girl, but because of my physical and mental state at that time I´m not able to give a judgement.
ButI can give some (guessed) stats:
name: Georgia
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1983
hair: brown, curly, shoulder-length
figure: slim, B-breast
height: ~ 160 cm
tattoos/piercings: none recognized
other: funny voice, friendly
I tried to find Romanza after that for a second goodbye, but couldn´t find her anywhere. So I left the club with the intention to welcome her back again at May, 1st - and in the meantime I will take care about Katharina.
Have fun,
Novize
I’m happy to report that my favorite club, which disappointed me a little on my last visit, is once again the unrivalled number one club in the area in my book.
I saw 8 girls over 2 days and they were all fabulous GFEs. There have been some complaints about the Romanians, but I don’t see why; the Romanians are my favorites here (followed closely by the Bulgarians). On the first day I had no interest in seeing anyone who wasn’t Romanian. On the second day I did a tour of Eastern Europe (Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, and Hungary). The girls I saw were:
Daniella, Romanian. 6-7 looks. 30 but still looks good. Long curly brown hair.
Looks like what’s her name from the movie Titanic. Her recent breast enhancement is tastefully moderate. She’s one of the most wild girls. She made a point of sucking me clean after removing the condom when we were done.
Alexandra, 8, half Greek half Romanian, 22, tall, thin, shoulder-length black hair with a bit of a curve.
She told me she was Greek and then later confessed that she is quiet about also being half Romanian since she says some of the men avoid Romanians. She nagged me a bit to go with her and almost lost me, but then I took a chance and got lucky. She was probably my favorite.
Julia, 10, Romanian, 23, short, sleek, athletic figure, shoulder length hair that she wore in a pigtail both nights.
Maybe the best looking girl in the club on the 2 nights I was there. Great GFE, though I was by now having trouble finishing and she said something about it but only after I mentioned it first and it really had been a long time. At first I said to my self that this was the closest thing to any sign I saw in 2 nights that any girl I was with wasn’t my girlfriend, but then I realized that a real girlfriend would have said something much sooner and not waited for me to speak up (and if she even gave me a bj at all she wouldn’t have done it in a room full of strangers).
Anda, 7-8, Romanian, long black hair with bangs, soft full figure but not at all overweight.
Great GFE. I had trouble finishing but she wouldn’t let me leave until I did. I finally agreed to a CIM if she could make me do it and she did. I kind of regret it though, since I only had about 2 drops and this cost me 50 extra. I was also a little unhappy the next day when she nagged me to do another session with her, demanding promises, telling me that she doesn’t like me anymore because I won’t go with her, etc ...
Christina, 10, Poland, 22, short and thin with not quite shoulder length blonde hair curled inward.
She is a rival for best looking girl in the club. Great GFE and she sat and chatted with me afterwards openly about working in the club, boyfriends, etc...
Elly, 8, Bulgaria, 21, short waffled blonde hair.
Great long soft slow all mouth and tongue bj. Lots of kissing and lots of time. Great to be with. Later in the evening she came over and sat with me for 15-20 minutes just to talk.
Hanna, 8, Romania, 22?, great thin athletic figure, red hair tied back tightly.
The best thing about her was the huge smile she had the whole time I was on top of her like she couldn’t imagine anyplace she’d rather be.
Alina, 9, Hungary, 22. Tall model figure.
Took me a while to get to her because she did a hard sell on me that initially turned me off and because she wasn’t Romanian. Finally got to her in the waning minutes of the early morning. Glad I did. Great kissing.
I noticed Magda (bony curly blonde from Romania) who I avoided because of several warnings on this board about her. She came over and gave me a strong sales pitch which I found to be a little dry.
The food was good and plentiful. It changes during the evening, so if there is something you don’t like just wait (though there was only one solid main course of good meat; beef in juice). Can’t say how the food compares to Palace since at Palace they don’t put out enough and it is all gone in 5 seconds.
On the bad side I agree completely with people who complain about the girls who pester you from the minute you arrive. Is seems like every time I go it gets worse. You can’t sit alone. If you go into the kino you are immediately followed. If you get up and walk you are stopped by girls coming in the other direction. They ask you where you are going and say “why don’t you come with me?” When you say no they demand to know why not and where are you going instead. When you say maybe later they insist that you promise and later demand that you honor your promise. If you walk away from them they follow you. At one point I fell asleep and a girl came over and shook me awake to make a sales pitch. They sit on your lap and won’t get up. Even some of the best looking girls did this (and spoiled their chances with me). Sometimes when I saw a girl zeroing in on me I would put up my hand and say no, sorry. Then I would hear about how rude I was after which I would be subjected to a sales pitch anyway. After I had been in the club for about an hour and hadn’t done a session yet I started to feel like all the girls were angry at me, like I had violated some norm.
I could maybe have just made out with several girls for free until they went away, but besides being a little unethical and possibly encouraging more pestering later, I didn’t want the ones I was interested in to get mad at me, and I didn’t want to make out with the ones I wasn’t interested it. These sales pitches happened at Palace too, but it was worse here. The girls I did see told me that this was a bad week with few men, so this may have had something to do with it.
"I think the ultimate brush-off is to say: "I have no money left." Works (nearly) guaranteed..."
Yes, Novize, you are right. There is a German guy at Palace (you?), who when he returns knackered from the room, goes straight to the bar and announces in a very loud voice for all to hear "pleite!". It's a nice double-entendre understood by all the girls and always gets a few laughs.
For a while I tried the "I am going for blondes tonight" to the brunettes - and vice versa to the blondes. That's OK until she sends her blonde friend over with "I hear you're looking for a blonde".....
But I'd still like to see the reaction of an eighteen year old Romanian at FKKW to being quoted Toscana's First Law. :-)
Katarina: as I reported a week ago, I agree with everything you say. She's great. From just outside Moscow, she told me she was 23, so a bit younger than you give. Judging from her body, believable, I guess. Doesn't really matter with that performance.
Toscana,
it wasn´t me...
I like your idea, too. I can already virtually see the question marks in the girl´s eyes... ;)
Since Katharina´s behaviour is somewhat ladylike, I didn´t ask for her age. But as I remember it, she was already in her mid-twenties two years ago. I´ll try to find out.
Have fun,
Novize
Catalyst,
Great post! Your list of girls is great, and those of us who know the girl line-up at World will know many, if not all, of those you write about. This list reads like Book 2 of Homer's Iliad, the so-called 'Catalogue of Ships.'
Certainly sounds like you sessioned with some stars!
The pestering and constant attention from girls you write about (or complain about?) is something that will always be a constant part of the FKK environment. Unless you prefer the polar opposite: where the girls make absolutely no move in your direction. I don't. I like the approach method, which I try to manipulate to my advantage.
I am now used to being approached often at FKK clubs and I guess I decided to just swim with the current rather than against it. Instead of fighting it, just play with it and eventually it goes away or you discover another side to it. I've actually had lots and lots of fun acting out with the girls, even when I am not particularly ready or eager for a session with them or with anyone else at that moment.
Of course, it helps if you can speak some German. I just guessing but: maybe they pester English-speakers more because they figure you are just a transient or short-term visitor vs a Stammegast (Regular)?
Anyway I find if I just lighten up and laugh and smile alot the pestering stops. And by the way we should mention that the early AM vibe at World specialises in this type of girl attack on guys esp. in the Relax zone. And some of us actually like it! I for one have had some great free foreplay sessions on the couches of World on certain early AMs. It can be very erotic experience....If you seek that sort of thing...
But it is a bit off if they actually wake you up when you are sleeping. Maybe this club ought to provide red Do Not Disturb signs like at hotels?
Ortos
Day Three: FKKWorld—Oh so Delightful, Delicious, and De-lovely!
As far as World is concerned, I may as well be a newbie. I went to this club during its opening week and have visited Pohlheim only sporadically since then. There are several reasons for this, the main one being that the place is just not as convenient to get to as Palace, Oase or the late Atlantis. The place has great facilities and on my past visits I have encountered a number of nice ladies. Andrea (Cz) was always a favorite on mine. I even remember her before she was such a huge star. Christina is another of whom I have fond memories. Still, when you fellow board members write about the “Software” at this club, I am pretty lost with regard to who’s who. Truthfully, Pohlheim would not have registered on my radar screen this past weekend had it not been for the opportunity to meet a few well known forum members.
I arrived in the late afternoon after taking a few wrong turns. For some reason it always takes me a bit longer to find the Garbenteich area of Pohlheim. Not so sure why this is, but the area confuses me when driving. After showering and putting on my towel I took a stroll through the place to reacquaint myself with the surroundings. The facilities are very impressive and it is clear that the management puts a lot of effort into keeping the place nice. The folks at Oase could learn a thing or two from this. It was a nice day to relax in the outdoor area. Not too cold, but just comfortable enough. It should soon be time for them to fill up their outdoor pool. For a Sunday there seemed to be quite a number of fine ladies present. No small number of male guests was also present. Very soon I made contact with a number of fellow board members, including the Mack-Daddy of all Frankfurt FKK mongers, Novize. (It is good to finally be able to put a name together with a face.)
Not being so familiar with the collection of ladies present, I pestered these guys ceaselessly about this girl or that one. Of course Ramona’s presence was made known to me, along with the advice that if I wanted to sample this Rumanian delight then I had better hurry before she leaves for her vacation. The guys pointed out the lovely Katharina who had caught my attention shortly after my arrival and immediately qualified for the Dedalus’ “To-Do” list. Andrea strutted her stuff in front of me and the boys and told me that she had not seen me for some time. Christina was there and looking much better than I had remembered. At one point a bubbly lady practically danced to the end of the bar to get a drink. “Wow!” I asked Novice, “Who’s that!” It was explained to me that this was Daniela from Rumanian and that she is a wild one. I was also told that “You don’t fuck Daniela, she fucks you.” I resolved to find out if this was indeed the case before the night was through.
While leaning against the couch next to the Kino area and exchanging FKK war-stories with the boys, I caught the eye of a really cute girl who boldly sauntered over to me and introduced herself. “So what is going on over here?” she asked sexily. I tried to switch over to German but GEORGIA she said that she felt more comfortable with English. After conversing with her I could understand why, for her English is not only fluent but she also uses idioms, and cleverly I might add. “I’m Georgia, like Georgia Peach.” Not bad. I was impressed for that would be the last word-association that I would expect any of these Rumanian girls to make. She is quite sexy in a sarcastic and sassy kind of way. Really loves to deliver a good wisecrack. Although I was sort of on the lookout for Hurricane Daniela, I was thoroughly taken by Georgia’s charms, her earthiness and her brashness and could not wait to head away with her when she suggested it.
In the room she was pretty much GFE standard yet she was a tad distant; not in a negative way, in fact it was a real turn on. She is a good kisser and a skilled oral sex practitioner. Our session reminded me of the sessions that I use to have with Melanie. She also had an objective yet highly skilled way of going about her business. I a not sure that I would put Georgia in Melanie’s class in terms of skill and technique, but hers is a delightful session that I would certainly repeat.
name: Georgia
hair: Brown (even somewhat reddish), wavy, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,6 m
figure: slender, A/B Breasts, nice legs.
origin: Rumanian
born: ~ 1982?
tattoos/piercing: None noticed
service: bbbj, DFK, good service
other: Good English skills, very tanned skin
location: FKK World.
If this was to be a harbinger of things to come with the Rumanian faction at World, then it had me wondering why so many people have been complaining about the dangerous vampire-brigands that I have heard so much talk about. Ramona certainly looked like a treat. I was drooling to get a hold of Daniela, another Rumanian. Are these really the Transylvanian-terrors that I have been reading and hearing so much about?
Another pause and another round of information exchange with the WSG/Ignatz/Romer guys. Our friend Novize is quite the flirt and it was amusing to see him work the room with his rücksack full of Süssigkeiten. (I wish that I had thought of that one.) It was also interesting to compare notes and opinions on some of the top-acts in the different clubs. There were, of course a number of ladies about whom we could make a general positive consensus. However it was also surprising for me to hear lukewarm reactions about a few girls who I consider to be some of the finest in the field. It just reinforced what I already knew, which is that writing off a girl because of someone else’s opinion or experience may result in a missed opportunity. Different tastes, different needs, different “clicks”. You never really can be sure until you take the plunge.
I asked the more “World”ly members again about KATHARINA, as I saw her amble past us. She is stunningly pretty and I believe that they had her face in mind when they came up with the phrase “Bedroom-Eyes”. I was assured by those in the know that she was a treat so I followed her down stairs with some pretty nasty thoughts on my mind. When I found her downstairs she said that she had seen me leering at her all day and was wondering when I would have the “Mut” to introduce myself. I confessed that at times staggering beauty can turn me into a “Weicherei” which she seemed to find flattering. We found a room behind the massage table where we could get to know each other better. I have read that Katharina is a good GFE, but I seemed to catch her at a point when she wanted to rehearse for a porno audition. No kissing, but what a blow job!!! I am sure that we spent have of the time either in a 69 position or with her nursing my joint. We both literally worked up quite a sweat with much up-tempo thrusting in the missionary and doggie positions which was where we finished. Stroking her incredibly lovely legs and ass before coming was heaven! This lovely Russian Tsarina will also make my “to repeat” list.
name: Katharina
hair: Blond (possibly bleached) long, and straight
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, B/C Breasts, nice legs. Ever so slight puppy fat.
origin: Russian
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: None noticed
service: bbbj Extraordinaire!
location: FKK World.
Most of the rest of the evening would be taken up with dinner (not at all bad, by the way), more camaraderie, and trying to catch the attentions of DANIELA. I made my desires known to her in the dining area but there were a number of lucky fools ahead of me. She runs back and forth between the rooms and the men’s lockers with such high frequency that one is reminded of watching Cindy (Palace) at work. On this night I was very determined to meet this girl. I am not sure what the rest of you chaps think about this girl’s looks, but when I saw here earlier in the day, I was bewitched to the point of being obsessed. I really dig her figure! It seems that her breasts are slightly enhanced and they suit her body type to a “T”. I think the curly brown hair with the blond touches is really attractive. An angelic face and a “911” body. Also just from the way she was carrying herself, I had a strong feeling that this girl knows sex. Around midnight or a bit later, I finally saw her at the bar replenishing her bodily fluids. Anyone who moves like she does has to use up truckloads of electrolytes. She smiled at me had held up a finger indicating to me that she needed a moment longer to quench her thirst. Eventually she came over and stood by me and apologized that it had taken so long to finally get to me. I told her that she looked a little tired. She dismissed my statement and said “You must not know me. I love sex and we are going to have a wonderful fuck!” Bushes are not the things that this beauty beats about.
She led me over to the couch diagonally opposite from the bar, where we talked for a while. She talked a little about her day and of a particularly bad experience that she had earlier. It could have been that she was trying to play me but I really did not care. After some tender stroking and caressing she unwrapped my towel and went to work on me right then and there. My first public blow-job at World! Daniela was doing such a masterful job that I forgot that there was anyone else in the area. This went on for several minutes till she asked if I wanted to fuck right there. It was deliciously tempting, but I opted to take her to a room. If her desire for sex is all an act, then it is a convincing one. I was still standing when she ripped away my towel and began again with her million dollar blow-job. She eventually let me sit on the bed and while she continued to suck me, she began to maneuver that delightful body of hers all over mine. Friends, this lady has a delicious body and more than a notion of how to use it!!! Also she is a talker. The girl loves to talk, fluctuating between dirty-**** talk and sweet girlfriend-like talk. Both were major turn-ons! We explored just about every position and culminated with a very wild yet intimate missionary. WOW! ENDGEIL!!!
Afterward we talked some more and I was VERY tempted to stay with her for another session, ala Fred. Had it not been for the long drive ahead of me, then this delightful lady would have been mine for the rest of the night. After contributing to her scholarship fund and letting her know that she had not seen the last of me, I went back to the bar where the other boys were waiting. ‘WOW!” was all that I could seem to muster when asked if she was everything I had hoped for. Simply “WOW!” I was at a loss, for this was the finest session that I had had in a long time. The perfect mix of GFE and PSE. It was just spectacular! The only disappointing thing was that she told me she would be working only two more weeks before she took her vacation, and getting back to World for me will be a difficult endeavor during this period. I am closely studying my calendar and trying to figure out a way to make it happen.
name: Daniela
hair: Brown with blond tints, curly, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, B/C Breasts (nicely enhanced), great figure!
origin: Rumanian
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: None noticed
service: bbbj, DFK, PSE-GFE A bit wild:-)
other: WOW!
location: FKK World.
It was the end of the night, as well as the end of the “Big-Three” tour for me. It was a super weekend! Not only did I have some earth-shaking, wonderful sex with lots o’ fine ladies, but it was also a treat to hang out with all you good gents from the boards. (D. Fox, I think that I saw you on Sunday as well, but we missed a chance at a proper introduction. Another time perhaps.)
World completely surprised me by coming in first in this three-way contest, edging out Oase and, on this tour at least, leaving the Palace in the dust. I fully expected the opposite to be the case. I may have to consider occupying a new base-camp this summer.
Here’s wishing everyone delightful springtime FKK follies,
Dedalus
Hi
Just wanted to know if this club accepts credit cards or not.
Faisal
Hi,
Can anyone post as how FKK world can be reached by train from Frankfurt.
Regards,
Faisal
Faisel,
This information has already been posted, at least twice, I think. If you have a mouse, use it to scroll down to earlier posts. All you seek is here...you just have to look for it...
There is an ATM machine in the lobby of World. Generally, you should take cash to FKKs as it works much, much better --and you won't have to pay any surcharges for using credit.
Say I got a question:
Why is it that if Bulgarian gals represent a considerable percentage of the World lineup, there doesn't proportionally appear to be as many reports about them? You guys don't like them?
I put myself squarely in the middle of a gaggle of them on the 1st day of my recent trip and got a good rapport with a few of them. On 2 subsequent visits I was stuck in what can be best described as a "Bulgarian pleasure prison." I get pulled into one of the big couches where they congregate and I can basically fondle and make out with 2 or 3 at a time for hours on end without having to go to the room, which is a big plus! But then if I run off to the room with a non-Bulgarian and in particular... Romanians (oh man they HATE Romanians!) they start looking at me sideways for awhile until they forgive me. Made me feel a little guilty... but it was all in good fun. Mostly.
There's that 1 100% gypsy Bulgarian in the group tho. She was ghastly! Did a hip grind on me trying to get me to the room and I almost lost my lunch.
But back to the original question... I'm guessing perhaps that aside from Stella who seems to be a regular, most of them turn over pretty quickly?
Just to say that Cordelia and I will be at World from Thurs 28th to Sunday 1 May (I will only be there on some days for some of the time). If anybody wants to say hi (to either/both of us) then PM us.
Cordelia is finding the pleasures of FKK are all the forum cracks them up to be. Which gives me an excuse to idle away the hours...I feel sorry for Cordelia having to work so hard! It must be awful to have to go and have sex as often as you can get hold of a man. If there aren't enough men then the girls are happy to kiss frogs since they might turn into princes.....
On the subject raised recently, I personally always feel uncomfortable if I spend ages with a girl and do not go to a room. It feels like taking advantage of the girls. This does not seem right in an FKK where there is, when all is said and done, a fair bit of honesty about the business relationship and one does not normally have to worry too much about being cheated. But for this to work it has to be both ways. Spending ages with girls and not going to a room means the girls must learn to distrust men - unless of course the man says upfront that he is not going to a room in which case it is fine if the girl then chooses to spend time talking with him
Shiatsu
You guys are very helpful about the good and the bad, but how does a first timer know who is who? Do they wear names (unlikely I would have thought in the circumstances) or do they introduce themsxelves, or do you go by the descriptions posted here?
Pete
Peter Kin,
each girl has a visiting card, which she will formally hand to you at the bar, so that you can retire to a sofa, consult your notes and make a fully-informed choice. After you have come up with a short list of potential candidates, you can invite each girl to make a powerpoint presentation covering such imponderables as services on offer, prices, diary openings, even aspects she will have to take into account for her tax declarations and things like that. Then you can make an appointment with her secretary. This service is all included in the EUR 65 entrance fee.
No, OK, sorry, it doesn't quite work like that. Don't take this as a personal [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-take. :-) Trying to guess who is who is part of the fun. Sometimes you can guess from the girl descriptions on the forum, sometimes they will wear a distinctive wrap, sometimes a tattoo will help, but unless you actually introduce yourself to a girl, you will not know for sure. Even then, some have the same name. And remember, there may be over 50 naked women in front of you. Mental anarchy and chaos inevitably sets in, and you haven't even reached the bar yet. But what a great dilemma :-)
Of course the fun really starts when you discover the girl you have spoken to is NOT the one you've been having wet dreams about for the past fortnight, but - if you remember correctly - is on a forum no-no list you have stored in your memory. Are you sure it is her? Shit, she looks so hot, surely it's a mistake. And how could someone with a smile and a voice like that be a cheat? What if you are making a major mistake and this girl is a top act you would never reasonably expect to see, let alone f***? You would never forgive yourself. Let's have another look, another think about this. But, no, you are firm. You will pass on her. Now what? How to extricate yourself from this situation? She is cuddled up to you. Your hand is already on her left breast. You can smell her perfume. How can you say no now? And do not believe that time is on your side. She now reckons quite reasonably that you are interested, has already had her tongue tickling your tonsils and will very soon be homing in on your dick with her delectable mouth (the sub-towel swoop). Now is the time for very urgent decisions, your hormones aren't helping your brain at all and your wallet is, believe me, in grave danger. Unsurprisingly, you - like me - will at this juncture make the odd bad decision (it is what in sport is called an unforced error) and end up being occasionally disappointed. But isn't life so good? :-) :-)
The really good thing is that at FKKW the chances of real disappointment are (compared with a RLD or escorts for example) rather small, and just surveying a sea of gorgeous naked fishes swimming the pond as you float through the red curtains is one of life's real buzzes. Just enter the pond. If you don't find her, she might find you (that's how I met Czech Andrea), but even if you get totally confused, someone good will find you. Guaranteed.
And if you really want to try complete pot luck, go to the Kino.......
Peter Kin
Toscana has summed it up perfectly. No matter how many times I have a description or recommendation I find that once I'm faced with 50 naked girls all powers of logic melt. The power of a man's brain is diverted into a hunting mentality - with the problem that the prey is so plentiful there is a paralysis from abundance. (And perhaps it's also the knowledge that the real prey is the hunter?)
In the end it all comes down to whether you and the girl click. And even that can vary - either you or the girl might be having an off day. And what do you do if a recommended girl turns out not to be your "type"?. So in the end I never search out a recommended girl to the exclusion of others. I'll just remember the current recommendations and only go with them if I come across them and we click.
If you are sure you want somebody particular but don't know them then you can ask the girls or reception about them. At World and Oase both have been unbelievably helpful in finding a girl for me.
One thing I always find worth doing is to watch to see which girls bring their customers out of the room looking happy. If the girl and customer look bored then probably they didn't have a good time - especially if the "half-hour" only lasted 15 minutes. Take your time, watch, and go with whoever seems to give good service (even this is only a rough guide - my favourite at World often gives short time to customers - possibly because they end the session once they have come)
There are several reasons to go to an FKK. One is to ogle at lovely ladies (Optikfick) , another is to have good sex. The two do not necessarily go together. If you read this forum carefully you will see that one girl with a superb body gets lousy reviews about her performance in the room - but she gets many new customers (including wsg members) because of her looks. It seems to me that you can get the Optikfick for free just by sitting in the room, so the real challenge is to work out who you would want to shared your body and possibly mind with for half-hour (or longer). This is where you take the chance to explore the other person on the couch for five or ten minutes - if they don't want to then the chances are they are not going to share themselves withyou in the room either. And by the way, the meter should not start ticking while you are in the couch unless you spend a long time there and you start some serious sexual activity (once she starts French on you that it about the time you should consider yourself committed)
Your problem is common to us all. I think that's why the posts so often talk about having favourites. It's easier to go with someone you really like than to search out a new untried possibility. Especially when the recommended new girl comes up to you and this wonderful being (says the previous posts) looks to you like a sack of potatoes
If I've made this sound too complicated then that's about right!!, Trust to intuition and feeling - and if it lets you down learn from it. That way you'll learn new life skills and become a better employess/boss in your real life (just don't say where you learnt your improved people skills!!) - really, there is no down side
Shiatsu
Cordelia says,
This is a matter of some interest and in fact Toscana is right - except that we don't have power point !! we do try very hard to attract your attention in what ever way we can and backstage we spend ages on presentation for just that reason. My make up takes longer than a power point presentation !! there is not much scope for being distinctive as we are all naked.
Some dos and don'ts- don't ask the girl who has approached you and is cuddling up to you "who are the top girls at this club?" (as some one did to me lately - mind you he did spend an hour with me after) or you will risk the obvious response.
Don't inform her that you only like black/blonde/hungarian girls, that her tits are too small/large, that she is too fat/thin and that she talks too much/too little etc. This is upsetting, and while you don't have much risk of rejection girls get rejected most of the time - doing it kindly is much appreciated.
A girls view of who are the "top girls" won't be the same as yours- many of the girls who are forum favourites don't really register at all with the other girls who have other views about who is the best worker.
Most girls will be happy to find a specific girl for you as they hope for a return of the favour.
The thing that really surprises me is that with some 70 girls there the forum only posts about the same few every time. Everyone seems to be worried about having a bad session, a man ( with the body of a greek god and no I am not going to say who!!) said quietly to me that after four days he thought he had had about fifty percent bad sessions, some with girls recommended by the forum so you never can tell.
I think the most important thing is to spend some time looking and if the girl seems to be genuinely friendly with the men then you should take the chance and not worry if she has been posted about. You may have a really brilliant session with some one no-one else has found and set your own fashion.
Cordelia,
I do think you’re right. You have to spend some time looking around and you will find some girls that are really friendly and in many occasions it will lead to a nice time and sessions.
It is true that in most cases the same girls are recommended and that there are still others who offer perfect sessions. But isn’t it normally that after a few visits everyone has its own favourites?
I also think if you treat them with respect you will get something nice in return. You have to think about the fact that many of them are doing this to try and get an easier live in most cases and that we are as strangers to them as they are to us. It’s not always easy for them too.
Just try to get the best time possible. It's a bit like heaven on earth.
Greetings,
Pilot
The best thing to do is look for a group of people who look like they are regulars and see if you can get in a conversation with them. They can give the best tips. Usually more catered to you, they will ask what you are looking for, what you like and maybe who to stay away from. In the german forums we refer to them as "scouts". They are worth more than gold!
CBGBConnisur
04-13-05, 23:28
From my experience its rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date. Especially for a foreigner from another Western country(USA in particular), it signals to the girl that you have 1) Money and 2) Could therefore take care of her and get her out of the life. At one club even the bar staff became ultra friendly when they found out I was an American in Germany on business.
Hi CBGB,
It is hard to argue about one's experience, and I usually would not reply to one of your "out of the blue posts", but in this case I think you may be giving those who don't know better the wrong idea.
I really doubt your "experience" is typical, that it is "rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date". American or not, you will have a real hard time getting a girl to agreeing meeting you outside the club. The girls are not running around with "pretty woman" complexes, and although many of them dream of meeting someone (and perhaps preferably with money), I doubt that their current place of employment is the venue they prefer such a meeting to take place.
If it is in fact really your experience that it is easy, please share the experience and provide us with some factual data on the issue.
Chivaz
Apologies to all that this topic should be in General Info.
CBGB - "Could therefore take care of her and get her out of the life". I am not sure that the women are waiting for a rich man to rescue them from their "life". Whilst i recognise that the topic is complicated, I think generally that girls at FKK World are not trapped or inadequate. For many it is a way of taking control of their lives (ok - sometimes it may not work out) For many girls the prospect of being tied to a rich man is a nightmare - at the FKK they are making lots of money and are not trapped for life to one man. Some girls do have relationships, and some others do hope for a family etc - but when they choose, and not by being whisked off by a client
Anyway - this is what the girls tellme . I spend most of my sessions listening to the girls and their views on their lives (no doubt edited and coloured but nonetheless, still showing something of themselves)
The girls do sometimes have problems but the answer to them is not salvation through a man. As Chivaz says - no Pretty Woman syndrome.
Shiatsu
Made my way to World on sunday, April 10th, again. Arriving at 19:30, I found both parking lots filled and recognized lots of male guests upon entering the hall. But it showed, that many guests went off within the next hour, so that I experienced another slow, relaxing sunday.
Most girls of the dayshift left early, so there was no chance to make a date with Katharina.
After some time of acclimatisation I placed myself on one of the couches and played "Romanian Roulette": The first session of the day should go to the first woman who approached me.
It didn´t take a long time, until Maria, a cute little life wire, sat on my lap and began to kiss me. We did some very nice non-verbal communication for the next ten minutes, before she led me to the cinema. She "undressed" me and started a very nice french lesson to which I gladly responded. I had the impression that Maria was a bit in a hurry and keen on some extra-money, so I had to break in on her and get Novize jr. mounted for intercourse. Having enjoyed her oral spoilings, it didn´t take long to finish.
My personal conclusion: DFK, BBBJ, DATY, everything was offered. But I missed the interpersonal "chemistry" that makes a good session a great one. I won´t repeat, allthough it wasn´t a bad experience.
Her stats:
name: Maria
hair: black, curly, long
size: ~ 1,50 m
figure: slender, B-Breasts
origin: ??? (din´t ask)
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: tattoo on lower back
service: bbbj, DFK, DATY
other:
After the session I met a frined I was appinted with and we had diner toghether. The food was OK, as (nearly) always.
A little bit later I sat at the lower bar and recognized Geri from Bulgaria sitting there and cheating me. At first I got distracted by a friend who interviewed Daniela on on of the couches - she spoke into his Microphone. After some minutes they changed roles, which also was nice to look at. When they finally decided to change locations, they had finally brought me to an idea...
I concentrated on Geri again. Sho soon left her place and came over to me for some nice chat, before we left hte bar and went to a room - with a 10-minute-pause on a couch. I´m just too old to run all the way through the club without having a break... ;)
The session in the room was very relaxed (at least for me) and intimate. I was too tired for intercourse, so after some D AT her dilicious Y it was on her to prove her oral skills - she passed the challenge with flying colours! We smoked and talked for the rest of the time, before I thanked her for the great time in the way that is common in these clubs. This girl surely is worth another approach!
Her stats:
name: Geri
hair: brown, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breasts
origin: Bulgarian
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: None
service: good GFE
other:
The session with Geri was very good, but it clearly showed that I was finished for this evening. So I tried too sleep in the Relaxzone for a little while and then went to the upper bar to drink some coffee until the club´s closing.
I had to reject Georgia, Hannah and a newly arrived hungarian/bralilian beauty with assisted D-breasts for this evening, but I´ll be back on sunday noon.
Have fun,
Novize
Peter Kin,
Great idea! Only problem is where would we pin the tag? Any suggestions?
Actually as my esteemed colleagues have previously written, this is believe us the least of your problems. Remember the feeling as a kid walking into a candy store - the sweaty palms, salivating mouth, bugged out eyes, the indecision, unwilling to choose until prodded, eyes darting from side to side- well then you're not a newbie...
Seriously, the wrappers may not be as colorful, but the smells, the buzz, the anticipation are just adult-magnified. If you know how to suck on a lollipop, you'll be fine. You'll find a favorite brand, taste, texture and go with it. We all have different taste buds - you'll find yours, and believe us that in doing so, you will have an other worldly experience.
Sometimes, I wish I was still a newbie (well not really, but writer's hyperbole here) just to experience that first time anticipation born of innocence and the leap into the unknown, that first time through the curtain, that first time seeing the room full of naked women knowing that you can have any one (or more) that you desire. Ah,,, enough to ... right here and now...
PK, NJOY!
From my experience its rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date. Especially for a foreigner from another Western country(USA in particular), it signals to the girl that you have 1) Money and 2) Could therefore take care of her and get her out of the life. At one club even the bar staff became ultra friendly when they found out I was an American in Germany on business.
Shiatsu, Chivaz,
Ignore him and his inane unsolicited and unconnected comments and maybe he will go away and back under the rock that he crawled out from. The bar staff became ultra friendly when they heard he was an American on business in Germany... Give me a break. Especially for a foreigner its rather easy to meet a girl outside of the club for a date...really, it' s that easy? Has that been anyone else's experience here on this board? If so, where are the reports ( which would be hard to believe anyway)?
Iseeu,
It's not that uncommon. A few months ago I was in a club and a girl who I had a good session with asked me if I wanted to have lunch with her the next day. I had told her that I was in town for a couple of days.
I took her up on her offer and the next day I picked her up, only she was there with her friend from the club. She said they both wanted to get to know me better. They offered to treat me to lunch at a good restaurant. The place had a nice outdoor patio and was very pleasant. Before we were done a couple of additional girls from the club showed up and wanted to know why they weren't invited too. They all demanded that we go back to my hotel, which of course I agreed to. The time in the room was pretty wild, but then the phone rang. The reception informed me that there were more girls in the lobby who were demanding to come up to my room. They wanted to know why they didn't get to come too.
Of course I said to send them up and everyone got turns. Afterwards they asked for my address in America and said they wanted to visit me. I probably shouldn't have told them who I am. Now I am back home and they are calling constantly. A few of them have travelled here and are staying near me. Sure, when they show up I often buzz them in, and it can be good fun, but people in my building have started mentioning this too me. It's been pretty wild, but now how do I get rid of them?
Catalyst,
I really enjoyed your reports last year when you pretty much did the majority of the girls at World, and your reports have been pretty good in the past and you seem pretty genuine, but this story has me baffled.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but dude, this sounds as true as Santa :-). There must be a missing link in your story. Are you really saying a few of the girls have flown across the Atlantic just to hang around you without any compensation? You must have some kind of charisma :-). Can you share with us the identities of the lucky girls?
About the problem with the girls visiting you, I have a solution. You can have my place and I'll move into yours.
Chivaz
Chivaz. I read Catalyst's post as a magnificent piece of irony on CBGBs post. Very amusing. But of course the dozen girls I've got in the garden shed are real - that's where all the girls went over Easter when there weren't many at FKKW. I'll bring them all back soon
hehehehe, of course. Now that I read it again, I get it. I can be little slow sometimes ;-)
Chivaz
Chivaz, Catalyst, Shiatsu, et al,
Actually, out in my backyard here in sunny Florida, I've built the ultimate golden years resort for ex-FKK ers, with ocean breezes, and sunshine year round. In fact, I've recreated the OASE backyard with huts, covered chairs, jacuzzi and a BBQ pit and it's available 12 months a year. I haven't found a caterer yet who can match the World buffet, but they're trying to get it right. I've even found a supplier for just too short towels and showers that turn off after 15 seconds. (Anyone know an American producer of green apple smelling shower dispenser soap?)And the Romanian consulate has set up shop in the lobby, processing green cards and other official looking documentation.
So if you're looking for any ex startlets, they're in my backyard, spending their golden years catching the rays, and servicing the management. Heh, heh. Just one thing - they're sagging all over the place. Is it the silicon popping or just what happens to taut once very active bodies. What should I do?
Nothing but the truth - right?
LOL
The fact is that Cindy(Poland, Palace) Marina( Lithau), Daniela (World) Lizzie (Oase), Nadine (Letttland) and Melanie( Retired, now head of "Starlight Ladies") often make stops at my home in S. Germany for an All-Night, South German, European regional, Eat and Screw off. I don't know what it is but I can' keep them away.
Eat your hearts out guys,
Dedalus
now fellas, golly whiz - you're making sport of a distinguished fellow board contributor who has posted a bunch (and i mean a whole bunch) of really dead-on relevant and insightful and, well, what you could call visionary posts on this board. i can't imagine why you're all being so putty-downy or snooty or back-bitey or whatever it is you're trying to do here to the poor man.
give him a break. he's already been knocked around a lot. he can't help it that board management deleted a whole bunch of his cbgb posts over the years just because there was some little dollop of innocent negative criticism in them about other board members or about regions or cities in the world or about vast segments of society in general. i don't know about you, but i'm thinking those many, many deletions were an infringement of freedom of speech, which as we all know is a real big deal here in america.
and who's to say that cbgb isn't welcomed warmly wherever he goes? i too am unbelievably important because i'm an american, and like cbgb whenever i visit one of the lesser countries i am treated like the 'something special' that i obviously am. i go dancing down the funny little crooked streets of europe like gene kelly in the movie 'an american in paris', and people stop and stare and point their fingers and say "look there, that must be an american" in whatever odd non-english language they happen to talk in. they want to follow me and praise me and give me little trinkets to show their affection, and all the women want to abandon their evil, sinful ways and have me sweep them off their feet and take them back to america with me. of course they also know that i'm so loaded down with money that it's falling out of my wazoo, and that probably helps to influence their attitudes. i'm sure it must be the same with cbgb. no wonder then that mere bar attendants would hold him in such high regard.
and by visionary i mean that i have learned by reading his posts. i had no earthly idea that virtually every female here in america was an out-and-out ***** with a bad attitude and a bad upbringing and a bad worldview and probably bad breath to boot. i have been enlightened by his posts. i now know to avoid them.
so lighten up. cbgb is a fellow monger. he represents us wherever he goes.
CBGBConnisur yesterday:
"Occasionally I run into some fuckwit lady that thinks because I'm American I will take her back to the USA to my penthouse home."
Now there's a nice way to refer to a gullible, pliable young European beauty you found it so easy to lure into a freebie............ ;-)
Sunday morning, 8:00 a.m.: 50 girls from World are standing in front of my apartement, with nothing more than towels around their hips, swaying 50-€-notes in the air, shouting "Novize, Novize", Chocolate, Chocolate", "Take us all!"
Sunday morning, 8:05 a.m: I wake up...
Sunday noon: The girls still haven´t arrived. Something must have happened to them on their way. I decide to jump into my car and meet them halfway.
Sunday, 1:30 p.m.: I arrive at World. The situation is clear: The girls only had a yellow-black Smart Roadster at their disposal and couldn´t agree on who were the two lucky girls having the delight of visiting me at home. Poor girls! I´ll have to step in to calm them down...
Upon entering, the receptionist jumps out of her seat, openig the door for me - the red carpet had already been rolled out. Of course she would have let me in for free, but I decided to give a small donation (65,- €) to the club. Upon enterning the upper hall the girls kneel down to hail me and to apologize for causing me having to drive so far.
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And now to something completely different...
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Arriving without any chocolate in my bags, I wondered if the girls would
a) ignore me
b) curse at me
c) crucify me on the Tabledance-stage or
d) be as nice as ever.
Luckily for me, no girl chose options b) or c) and most of them chose option d) - my day was saved.
After some chatting at the bar I looked out for my first victim - guess who? Yep, Katharina the Great. Although she is one of the chocolate.addicted girls, she opted for alternative d), which I thankfully owe to the charming skills of my wallet. The best session for this day. Katharina plans to stay at World until Pentecost and will hopefully return in September, after the school holidays.
Her stats:
name: Katharina
origin: Russia
born: ~ 1978 (?)
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
I hadn´t fully relaxed when Geri from Bulgaria approached me for some companionship at the upper bar. Thanks to the low traffic she didn´t rush for a room and we smoked, had a drink and cheated each other before we finally left for the lower floor. The session was very good,I enjoyed teh relaxed intimacy with lots of kissing and cuddling. As I understood, she will leave World for some days mid of this week, but will come back before she takes a longer vacation in July.
Her stats:
name: Geri
hair: brown, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breasts
origin: Bulgarian
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: None
service: good GFE
other:
I headed for the sauna with some friends after that, getting completely dried out. I had to drink half a dozen glasses of Apfelschorle after that.
But the sauna alone didn´t hurt enough, so I had to approach Tamara from Romania. To be not unjust, I have to explain the circumstances of this session:
First, I had done this hardcore-saunaing. After that - while refilling myself with Apfelschorle - I had tried to help a girl to overcome her depressive mood - without success. And then I approached Tamara, who hadn´t had a single customer that evening so far - it was 11 p.m. - and was quiet frustrated because of that, for a chat. And I was tired.
Of course she asked me to have sex with her. I denied, and she accepted. She really didn´t insist on a session. She just remarked, that some day she would get me to do a session with her. And then I thought: if I have to do it some day I can do it now.
After reading that you know that she didn´t heve even the slightest chance to onvince me in the room. I can´t blame her for trying to earn money. So my judgement is: Sometimes I can be a bloody idiot!
Although it wasn´t a great session for me, I would encourage those who like "sportive sex" to give Tamara a try. I spoiled it. What a shame. Tamara is such a nice girl...
Her stats:
name: Tamara
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
hair: brown, straight, long
figure: slender, B/C-breast
height: ~ 155 cm
tattoos/piercings: tattoo on lower back
other:
I went downstairs for some sleep. Ruth at the lower bar took care of me, so noone disturbed me this night.
After waking up, Hanna came along and placed herself on my lap. We cuddled each other on the couch before we went upstairs - I needed some coffee. After that I had a very enjoyable session with Hanna - lots of tenderness and fun. I got the impression that she needs some time to get accustomed to a client, since I don´t remember my first session with her some weeks ago not that good. But this night she was great!
name: Hanna
origin: Hungary
born: ~ 1983
hair: reddish, straight, shoulder-length
figure: slim, A/B-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: recommended for GFE
It was 2:45 a.m., and I was finished. I ordered a last Cappuccino and watched Magda and Hanna dancing aroung. It remembered my daughter acting like this in the kindergarden, but it was nice to watch.
From World I drove to my office - I had to file a report.
Next sunday will see me at World or Palace - depending on the weather.
Have fun,
Novize
"A girls view of who are the "top girls" won't be the same as yours- many of the girls who are forum favourites don't really register at all with the other girls who have other views about who is the best worker."
Cordelia,
could I just take you back a handful of posts (before we were lured into discussing all our phenomenal "extramural" successes with those selfless beauties at FKKW)?
What, in your experience, qualifies a girl for being a Top Act in the eyes of the other girls? (I assume you do not have in mind the ability to count up to fifty, or eyesight that can tell a green one from an orange or blue or red one). Is it the "catch" quota? Years of service? I mean they can hardly form a judgment on performance in the room, can they? Probably don't want to either.
I am sure the answer will not help us one bit in our search for the ultimate FKK goddess, but it would interest.
CBGBConnisur
04-19-05, 14:10
If you think these girls would prefer to fuck strangers for money rather than do something else you are mistaken. Most of these women are from impoverished Eastern European countries and are destitute. Some come from marginalized ethnic minorities within Germany like the Turks. If they could find a guy who could pay their bills, put a roof over their head, and put food on their table, and treat them good(unlike their pimps or "freunds"), they will go to such a guy like bees to honey.
With 2 million Turks living in Germany (Dec. 2000) I wouldn´t call them a "marginalized ethnic minority".
I agree to your opinion that most of the girls would prefer to do something different than they do now.
I doubt that the girls see a club as a marriage bureau. And if you´d meet one who really thinks so, you´d be an asshole to take advantage of this. If she really has a "boyfriend" or pimp, it might become painful for you and her.
And, btw, this is a forum about P4P available for everyone, "private" things should stay private. It´s wasting webspace and bandwidth without any practical use for the readers - but that doesn´t seem to be any problem for you...
Just my 2 Cents´,
Novize
CBGBConnisur
04-20-05, 02:39
It's a well known fact that Turks are marginalized minority group in Germany not because of their numbers but because of their limited assimiliation into mainstream German society. Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship. Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.
Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship.
Any foreigner can become a German citizen under the following premises:
- 8 years legal residence in Germany
- holding a work- or residence permit
- commitment to the german constitution
- no anticonstitutional activities
- no subject to the german social security system
- german skills
Not one hurdle too high, I think.
Since Jan., 1st, 2000, every person born in Germany automatically is a german citizen, if at least one of his parents has been living in Germany for 8 years and has been possessing a permanent residence permit for at least 3 years.
Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.
Take a look at any Chinatown in the US and then read your sentence above again.
This was my last answer to a Readers-Digest-subscriber, not only because the issue is Off-Topic...
Have fun,
Novize
It's a well known fact that Turks are marginalized minority group in Germany not because of their numbers but because of their limited assimiliation into mainstream German society. Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship. Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.
Ok, enough is enough. As a foreigner living in Germany and paying Taxes, I must announce that I do NOT feel marginalized and I could easily get citizenship here if I choose to. CBGB, this is a topic, like several others, where you are just blowin' in the wind. I know too many people who are Auslaender in Germany and while they may not be German, they feel as much a part of the society here as your typical Hans and Giesela.
You really do know very little regarding this topic, so why not be quiet.
Dedalus
Why on earth does anybody dignify this guy's irrelevant uninformed disconnected posts with any response at all? Give us all a break and just ignore this static... Let's get back to real informative posts, no?
If my posts received the universal negative response that CBGB's posts get I think I would start to question whether the fact that I am so out of line with other people said something about me. I would wonder whether or not my social skills needed some development.
As it is I simply make a public request to CBGB - please stop posting offensive and ill-informed posts on things which have nothing to do with this thread
Shiatsu
Toscana
From Cordelia. Before CBGB's posts diverted the forum you asked a question of me. I hope it is not off-topic. You asked what makes a top act in the view of the girls working at FKKW as opposed to the men's view
Obviously it is not the ability to share good sex!! The girls admire another girl who looks good and has a pleasant attitude to the other girls. They also admire a girl who has a good pick-up technique and who does not interrupt girls when they are working. They also like a girl who is unselfish when working in a twosome. Basically this all means a girl who works hard to get money for herself but also works as part of the World team. (I did actually ask the girls about it). This all helps make the atmosphere for girls working at FKK World generally very good and is one reason why I so often compliment the club
So this is why it is no good asking the girls who is best. Their criteria and experience is different. Quite a few of the girls don't even recognise the names of some of the "top acts" listed on the forum. So it's back to asking by name for a worker and watching who seems to give themen a good time - and of course reading the forum reports (although these are limited since they tend to focus on a very limited number of girls at a time and fashion changes - one girl may go in and out of fashion for no obvious reason).
I know enough girls who have tried other work and do end up back in the clubs, because it provides more money quickly for less work than most can make in a legitimate job. Once you have overcome the hurdle and done it once, it is tough to get out for good.
I only know of two girls that I know well who have been out of the business for more than 2 years without going back. It is sort of like smoking.
I also know enough girls who have met their real boyfriends in clubs. And I am not talking about pimps.
I was talking to a girl I know really well the other day in GT. She said her new BF she met in the club. I said that was a bad idea. She told me that she spends all her time in the club, where else can she meet anyone.
She was also 3 weeks pregnant from him, and it would be her second abortion. Not really the sort of talk that made me want to fuck her. We spent 3 hours talking in the room, and she wanted no money from me. I gave her 100€ for her time.
Some girls have fucked up stories (there was a hell of a lot more, including unprotected sex with the owner of another club the night before and such) but many choose to be in this job.
She sort of wants to have the kid (she said to me before she snorted a line of coke), but she knows she wants to do the job for 2 more years, so it won't work out. She misses the kid she aborted too.
Wonderful girl, fucked up life, but it is mostly due to choices she has made.
Don't tell me the stories are lies, I know too much about this girl that I know what she tells me is true.
CBGBConnisur
04-20-05, 23:32
I'm a retired alcoholic and have nothing better to do with my time and money except spend it on prostitutes and babbling on and on :).
I wonder why do Lamborghinis cost 250K in some places and in others they cost only 50EU??? Beautiful naked woman = Lamborghini. Maybe its because the vehicle has a "maintenance" history.
Peter said: "Once you have overcome the hurdle and done it once, it is tough to get out for good." That is certainly true for the girls. But it is also true for us, isn't it. Can anyone of the regulars even still imagine what your life was like before you visited the clubs. This is an extremely addicting lifestyle. In my pre-FKK times, I used to take girls to fancy dinners, to concerts, to the disco, whatever, and spent sometimes several hundred euros (well, it was marks then) on this per night ... often without scoring at the end of the evening. That kind of chase can be fun, but once you have experienced the FKK clubs, you are more and more inclined to take the shortcut (if you know what I mean).
As far, as meeting your boyfrind (or girlfriend) at the club is concerned: what the hell - many of the girls have a very pleasant personality and are fun to spend time with. Just because a lot of guys get to stick their dicks into this girl's various body openings, this does not mean that you could not be romantically involved. Why be judgemental when we stick our schlongs into just as many other girls (or at least would do it, if we had enough money and/or stamina)?
I have met at least ten girls in clubs, where we hit it off, and where I would not have minded a more permanent relationship. In the end, I only did not pursue this for one reason: it might lead to marriage, and those tend to cost me a lot of money in the end ;-{
cheers
euro
CBGBConnisur
04-21-05, 16:51
I remember a guy who used to run tours of FKK clubs, and the subject of meeting girls outside of clubs came up, several guys reported meeting women outside of the clubs for p4p, for dating, etc. One even mentioned a story about a girl who was about to get kicked out of the country and this girl wanted him to marry her. I did meet a Bulgarian woman in an NRW club that wanted to meet me outside of a club, but I was glad I didn't do it, she had a boyfriend and was looking for a Western guy to get her out of Europe, I think she was pulling some kind of scam with her boyfriend. I got involved with one girl, she had to return to Germany to wait for her temporary visa to live with me, we both waited, then I came back and found out she was killed in a car wreck on the autobahn. A complete heartbreaker that something like this could happen to such a nice girl meanwhile fat American women(more like overweight cows with oversized egos) drive their SUVs all over the damn place while they boyfriends and husbands work themselves to death to pay for them. There is no fairness in this world.
CBGB,
For the first time in a long time I am responding to a serious post of yours.
I am sorry for your loss. I rmember the story about that girl coming to live with you. Never knew she died. Sorry.
Generally I would advise most people to be really careful about ever meeting a girl outside of clubs, or believing almost anything they tell you. Especially if there is any angle you can put on it that would lead to you giving her more money.
I know some girls well, but that has taken a number of years, and I have a special talent that people from all walks of life confide way too muchs tuff with me. I am like a humn confessional.
Be careful witht he girls, treat them well, but realize they all have interesting paths which have put them where they are.
Local Expert
04-22-05, 16:23
It's a well known fact that Turks are marginalized minority group in Germany not because of their numbers but because of their limited assimiliation into mainstream German society. Many have lived and worked there for decades(have also paid taxes) and cannot get German citizenship. Germany is a society that is divided between Germans and the Auslander, foreigners can live in Germany but are never included into their host society as what happens to immigrants in the USA, Australia, and Canada.
Germany has never been a country of immigration as the US, Canada and Australia are !
If a Turk applies for German citizenship, he or she will get it sooner or later, provided he/she has spent eight years legally in Germany (five if he/she is married to a German), speaks the language and does not have a serious problem with Germany's constitution. That is a totally fair and acceptable handling of the German legislation.
BUT, we should not forget that the majority of Turks in Germany does not even apply for a German passport, due to reasons whatever..... It is not the Germans who exclude the Turks, it is usually the Turks who exclude themselves.
Let us not forget: I have not seen a Portugese, Italian, Yugoslavian or whatever "ghetto" in any major city in Germany, but I know of Köln-Chorweiler, Berlin-Kreuzberg, etc..... The Turks are just some of many nationalities who were invited to work in Germany after the war, but the only one who refused intermingeling with Germans.
CBGBConnisur
04-22-05, 19:59
Anyhow when I first visited Germany, the sight of obvious foreigners was very interesting(I'm used to thinking of only North America as being multicultural but surprised that Europe is catching on in a slightly different way) and meeting foreign girls in the FKK clubs was an unforgettable experience. The girl I hooked up with was half Turkish(father) and half German(mother), a very exotic combination, unfortunately she is no longer on Earth. I would have only met such a girl, in an FKK club, she was my first FKK girl and I remember her with photographic clarity, she was such an experience so special that I don't like to share the information about my FKK experiences with my friends. Still, in many of the Ruhr clubs, many girls seem very, very friendly. Women in Germany seem to be a lot friendlier than those in the US, they don't seem to be so afraid of strangers and are not afraid of making eye contact. I met women in places where I wouldn't in the US.
Here's a good reason why visiting a prostitute in the US is a waste of your time and money:
New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
City hooker ring KOd
BY ROBERT GEARTY and GREG B. SMITH
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Tuesday, April 12th, 2005
A multimillion-dollar Manhattan-based prostitution ring used the Internet to snag customers and arrange "dates" with hundreds of supposed supermodels in 22 states, prosecutors charged yesterday.
NY ****** promised "stunning European knockouts" with names such as Vanessa, Roxy and Katrina - charging $500 to $1,500 per hour for sex in hotels from coast to coast, authorities say.
The federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency raided ******' E. 32nd St. headquarters and discovered records listing the names of more than 200 hookers, according to court papers.
At 6 a.m. yesterday, agents busted alleged ringleader Rady Abdel Salem Abbassy. But they missed his girlfriend and alleged partner, Elena Trochtchenkova, who remains a fugitive, prosecutors said.
The ring operated out of an eighth-floor suite off Fifth Ave. where "dispatchers" took calls from johns drawn via a Web site.
The site depicted numerous women who supposedly "appeared on the covers of many mainstream European magazines," providing a résumé with every physical detail.
Yesterday it featured 5-foot-6, 116-pound Vanessa with the come-on: "Call and Reserve Vanessa today!" She was allegedly "available in New York City" from last week until Sunday.
"If you are in need of beautiful companionship and sharp intellect, check out the most sought after escorts in the New York area," the Web site promised.
Three of the pricey call girls turned informants and told of being sent on two-week "tours" to other cities, according to affidavits by Immigration and Customs agent Theodore Psahos.
The escort service used Hotwire, an Internet travel agency, to book hotel rooms for customers. Records show the service booked rooms in 22 cities, including New York, Boston, Chicago and San Francisco. Hotwire officials, who are not accused of any wrongdoing, cooperated with the probe.
Immigration agents discovered $5.5 million in deposits into accounts linked to NY ******, mostly from credit card payments, prosecutors alleged.
But investigators believe the ring netted much more money, noting that most customers paid with cash.
The ring was quite sophisticated, requiring all first-time users to provide detailed personal information to filter out potential law enforcement agents.
Only after callers were cleared could they request specific women and particular sex acts, prosecutors alleged. "Incomplete forms will not be accepted," the site warned.
Call girls would collect payments upfront, and deliver cash or credit card receipts to the dispatchers, prosecutors said.
Yesterday, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs confirmed the arrests and said the agency would release more information today.
In Manhattan Federal Court, accused ringleader Abbassy was detained when prosecutor Benjamin Gruenstein alleged he was in the U.S. illegally after being deported to Egypt for a 1985 marijuana conviction.
Two women, Valerie Hairston and Nancy Khaja, alleged to be dispatchers, were released on $100,000 bond.
Do you ever hear about shit like this in Germany? Atlantis got busted mainly because the owner was evading taxes. Or occasionally a club gets in trouble because it hired illegal workers. Note the prices charged for "European girls" from $500 to $1500US(for the same amount of money I can fuck between 6 to 25 top class women in Germany!!! The quality sex will more than make up for the travel costs). A customer in an FKK club asked about services in the US and I told him not to bother but didn't elaborate because I didn't want the girls to hear and give them ideas.
Any of you guys any idea how much a taxi would be from FKK Palace to FKK world?, or more specifically from hotel Ibis frankfurt west which is just around the corner from the palace?
Also are there any cheaper cabs in Frankfurt that dont have meters for instance and you just pay a negotiated fee? you know similar to mini cabs in London??
i could rent a car, but would prefer not the hassle of it.
Fred,
A taxi from Hausen to World will set you back several Euros. I am unaware of any cheap taxi services but if you really do not want to drive then you best bet is to take the train to Giessen and from there take a taxi to World (Approx. 17 Euros)
Just guessing here, but I bet a taxi from the Ibis to World would be from 100 to 150 Euro since it is about and hour long drive.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Fred - Just to confirm Dedalus. It's too far for a taxi. Sometimes at night I've negotiated prices with taxis instead of the kilometre charge for the trip to (erstwhile)Atlantis from FFM - but it isn't really any cheaper. Anyway getting to World is easy by train - at peak times of day it is quicker than driving. My post number 535 gives a bit more guidance about public transport. The best option might be as Dedalus says by train to Giessen and then taxi - the whole trip will be under an hour ffrom the train departure from FFM Hauptbahnhof (the staff at the Reisezentrum speak good English and will help)
By the way - I'll be at World and Oase over April 28 to May 1. (Cordelia will be there all the time) If you are going then PM me?
Guys,
thanks for your fast responses, I probably will take the train and then taxi.
Any idea what time of the night the train back to Frankfurt stops running at ?
My next trip will be end of May/ start of June and I will visit both World and Palace.
cheers
Fred
Fred - Last direct trains on a Friday are currently at 22.53 and 23.53 followed by a train at 04.40 on Saturday morning, If you use the bahn.de website you'll get all details
I'll be around FKKW at the end of May
I arrived at World at 3:30pm and there were 25+ ladies and the same number of men. They were having an Italian party today. I was waiting to see Christina, from Bulgaria, whom I had seen back in February. She is very pretty blond with captivating eyes. Christina had told me she will return to Germany early April after her vacation in late February.
Christina arrived after 5pm, recognized me, and came over. After making out in the dining room and talk for awhile, she told me she'll go change, wash up and will return. She met me at the bar and we make out there again before heading to the room. My hour session with her was as good as I had remembered.
After some good food, I had session with Alina. She is a petite and attractive Hungarian. The service was GFE but she seemed a little distant.
I decided to have another session with Christina a few hours later. An hour with her seemed so short.
It was getting close to midnight. I decided to see one more girl before heading back to the hotel. The last girl was Alexandra. Skinny dark hair from Greece/Romania. She tried to sell me fran-total during the bj and during sex she kept one hand on my penis. She told me that I was big and would hurt her. I thought it was her way to get me off faster, but when she was on top of me she did not do it. She placed her legs on top of mine to prevent from going deep. The session was ok since there was only light kissing.
I called it quit and left at 1am.
I saw Olga, a tall and attractive red hair Russian, and Jennifer, an attractive blond from Czech. Did not repeat with them since the service was not that good the last time. I also saw Cindy, she now have black hair instead of blond.
Part One—Thursday the 14th
My last visit to World stayed in my head long after it ended. It was a combination of things: Friendly meets with other board members, Wonderful facilities, Friendly staff, a whole stack full o’ seriously fine ladies, etc. Also my time with the Rumanian Tornado Daniela did not wash off so easily. Her sex appeal and sexual prowess kept me wondering how soon it would be before I could get back to Pohlheim. Plus she told me that she would be taking an extended break soon. Might as well see this little lady off properly.
On Thursday the 14th I found myself having a day free of work or responsibilities and although I was a good distance from Pohlheim, I decided to make the trek. I called the lady at the information desk to see if Daniela was in fact there. She told me to try back at around 5:00PM. I did as instructed and was told that she had just arrived. Nuff’ said, I was off.
Arrived at World around 8:45. For a Thursday it looked not so crowded but there were a good number of ladies present. As luck would have it DANIELA was collecting her earnings from a satisfied customer as I was putting away my wallet. I signaled to her that I would be at the bar waiting. She blew me a kiss and went off to freshen up.
After downing some water and burning a fag I felt a tongue in my ear. What a nice greeting! I tried to make some small talk but she was clearly in the mood for action. She said that she was very horny that night and asked if I wanted to fuck in the kino. I was powerless to deny this lady anything, so after some serious tongue action and body groping at the bar, she led me around the corner to the cinema with some major sexual atrocities on both of our minds.
This was my first time in the World kino and I must admit that I was impressed. The sofas are superior to those of Oase and they are large enough to at least create the illusion of privacy. Daniela went to work right away giving me a million-dollar blowjob and eventually placing her stupendous legs on either side of my ears so that I could return the gesture. The girl can make some serious sex noises. She is also a talker. Sometimes loud and sometimes not but it is definitely a turn-on and, as I told her, inspiring! Gradually she maneuvered herself over me and started her wild, cowgirl, Annie Oakley routine, moaning and gasping the entire time. A few voyeuristic gents decided to look on and at time voice some encouragement. All in good fun I suppose. We finished off with a wild missionary that those large sofas are idea for. What a woman!
Afterwards she told me that she would be hanging around for a week longer than originally planned which made it clear where I would be spending an up coming weekend. I can’t say enough about this girl’s sexual appetite. There are a few girls that I have run into in the FKK business who give me the genuine impression that they really enjoy sex. Cindy(Palace), Marina (Palace), Angelique(Palace), Jill (FI), and a handful of others. Daniela belongs to that group and while there may be a few girls who deliver service on her level, I am not sure that I have had any that are better.
Later while relaxing at the bar and making goo-goo eyes at Daniela across the way, I felt a tongue start at the base of my spine and work its way up to my neck. Then a sexy voice whispered in my ear asking me how I was getting along. I recognized the voice that belonged to GEORGIA and told her that I was quite well and that my back was certainly cleaner that it was a second ago. I also quickly explained to her that her Rumanian cohort had just released me from prison and that I needed a little while to find my energy before undertaking any new carnal activities. She said that she understood and that it did not bother her to stand and talk with me in any case. What a sport! She knew that I would be in need of her services eventually. The girl has confidence. She was also right, for I figured that a session with her would be a good contrast to Daniela and I had every intention of doing a second round with her before night was through. Eventually I sought out Georgia and we made our way to a room downstairs. I really like this girl. She is a gem; Bright, intelligent, witty, sexy, and (according to her) modest. Also she has a great mouth and her BBBJ nearly drove me to the brink of insanity. She is not the wild sexual hurricane that Daniela is. A bit more GFE and her pacing is wonderful. She was more intimate than the last time we were together and she could easily become my Stammmädel at World. She is also really a looker! Gents if you have not tried her before, then you are really missing a treat.
Later that evening I found Daniela again at the bar. It was getting late and I had a long drive ahead of me, but she was why I made the trip in the first place. She saw the leer in my face and knew that I was ready for her again. She approached and just started kissing and stoking me right there at the bar. She had made it clear that she was not in a mood that evening to go to the rooms. “Kino (Kiss), couch (Kiss), stage (Kiss), sauna (Kiss), whirlpool (Kiss), bar (Kiss), toilet (Kiss), anywhere (Kiss), but the room is too boring tonight. (Major Kiss) I am just too horny!” That she was! I really thought that she was going to abuse me right there at the bar. Eventually she dragged me over to the stage, sat me on the floor and started to give me a BBBJ in front of everyone. I’ll admit that it was a turn-on even for a shy chap like me. Still, doing anything on that stage is impossible to be ignored by everyone, however it is interesting to see the other guests try. After a bit of 69ing I decided to take matters in hand and picked her up and took her to the kino. For the shape that I am in, I was thankful that it was nearby.
We basically had a repeat of our earlier session, which was fine by me. One of these days I may take Daniela up on her open sex on stage offer, but I am still yet a few rungs from that level of immodesty.
It was a great night and despite the long driving times I had to rack up, I thought that it was worth all the hassle. Also I knew that I would see Daniela again in ten days time as Chivaz and I had been planning an upcoming Saturday World-romp. More details on that trip soon to follow.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Part Two—Saturday the 24th
I had made plans with Chivaz a few weeks in advance of last Saturday’s trip to FKKW. After hearing me ramble on about the delights and dangers of Daniela, hearing that IMHO she beat out Lizzie in the Top-Act competition several weeks ago and hearing that she made me crazy enough to drive 4 hours each way just for a taste of this Rumanian delight must have had him salivating for a bite of this delicious morsel himself.
I was running a bit behind schedule but was able to make it to World by 6:15 PM. I knew that this would be my last chance to enjoy Daniela for a few months and I was wondering if I should be a jerk and just whisk her away for one of those mega-monster long, never-ending, and EXPENSIVE sessions or just engage her several times during the evening and work a few selected-shorts in between. The idea of a long Daniela session crossed my mind after having read a few reports on the Roemerforum by a number of other Daniela-fans who were looking to enjoy the tornado before it heads back east. It being a Saturday, I was worried that it might be difficult to catch her.
As luck would have it, just like my last visit, she was finishing up with some dude just as I was drying off and putting away my wallet. Eye-contact, the “I’ll be waiting at the bar” sign. Haven’t we seen this movie? I had to sit at the bar for about 20 minutes before she came by. I was thinking that Chivaz is expecting me and I should go find him and say hi, but I also figured that he would understand. I know that he eventually did!
DANIELA was as peppy as usual and also just as horny, however she seemed to be less into the public-exhibitionist mood then ten days earlier. After pawing each other for a few minutes at the bar, she took my hand and led me of to one of the rooms downstairs. “I want some privacy with you today.” Cool! During our walk down stairs I had another chance to admire this lovely woman. Among her many fine bodily characteristics is one of the sexiest bums I have ever seen on an FKK lady. She has great legs but this evening she was hiding half of them in white, knee-high, fuck-me boots. The tattoo on her backside is tasteful as are her breasts which are tastefully enhanced. Some fellow FKKers have told me that she looks a little like Julia Roberts which is a stretch but I will admit that I noticed some similarities the first time I saw her. Her eyes and mouth are smaller than Ms. Roberts’. Another perhaps better facial comparison might be Helen Bonham Carter but I am probably just free-associating. In any case, she is lovely. I am reminded of something an ol’ boy from back home use to say whenever a shapely adorable would saunter by. He would grab his heart, roll his eyes toward Heaven, sigh and then say “Damn, I’d crawl twenty miles through a bunch o fire-ants just to take a drink of her bathwater!” Try to imagine it said with a deep southern accent.
Daniela’s service was again stupendous! Perhaps a bit more GFE than usual but still filled with a healthy amount of wild bucking. Afterwards we chatted a bit which really was a first for us. Usually we only talk sex. She is a pretty sharp girl and has a lot of emotions which I am pretty sure are not an act. In a way I am glad that she will be gone for a few months, otherwise I would be broke come July.
After contributing to her vacation fund and telling her that she should look for me in about two hours I went to go find Chivaz who was lounging on the couches diagonally across from the bar. We exchanged pleasantries and rapped for a while. I excused myself for being late and explained that I had been shanghaied by Daniela and could not put up much of a fight. The man instructed me to point her out ASAP. When I saw her return from freshening up I went and asked her to meet a friend of mine which she did and the two of them made a nice love connection. I will leave it to Chivaz to describe his encounters with Daniela his ownself. However I will say the between 6:30 and about 10:30 Chivaz and I occupied her time exclusively save one interloper who captured her for thirty minutes. My second session with her was also a gem. She took me down to the relaxzone and preformed a first class blow-job before leading me outside to one of the huts. It was a tad cold but we managed to warm things up in a short time. I did a good job of trying many of the Kama Sutra positions and performed so many different acrobatics that we both got leg cramps. I have to get back in shape!
It was a great session but I think that from now on, instead of doing back to back sessions with her, I will try something different in between, just for the contrast.
Afterwards I dutifully returned her to Chivaz who seemed appreciative.
While Chivaz was enjoying Daniela art, I hung around both downstairs and upstairs bars to get a feel for who was present. I am starting to get a feel for these World ladies but there are still a number that I do not know by name. Earlier in the day I saw the lovely Russian Katharina, I am pretty sure that I spied this girl Jacqueline that many people speak so glowingly of (blond hair in a pony-tail, tattoo down the spine, looks to die for? Is this her?), Cindy (Glasses), Christina, Anka, Ambra, Stella (formerly Oase), Hannah, and a few others. At one point the Rumanian Anda came over and straddled my lap. I did some mild protesting as she was grabbing my crotch and insisting that we head to a room. I was really tempted for I find this girl really cute, but I decided to save her for another day. Cindy is also a fine looking one. We made some eye-contact in the dining area and she has made my “to-do” list. Both Alexandra and Anka were on the hunt and approach me several times during the evening. Both are cute and Anka is especially tempting, but I have read and heard so many negative things about her that I decided to give her a pass. At one point while at the bar the famous Andrea came by and started to work on the gent standing next to me. It has been a while since I have been with Andrea but I remember her being a true joy. Also she was defiantly looking tops on this evening! All of a sudden I knew who my next victim would be. Alas, she ran off with the gent next to me but I was not so disappointed in that I was still recovering from Daniela and 30 or minutes of relaxation would be a good prelude to a kiss.
Chivaz returned and we set up shop on the couches and discussed the evening. I told him that ANDREA was there and looking damn fine. Eventually I spotted her and pointed her out. When the time was right I decided to go grab this doll before someone else did. The keen-eyed Chivaz made me promise to send her his way when we were finished. I approached her and she led me back to where I Chivaz and I had been sitting for a little reacquainted kissing, grouping, etc. Then she led me to one of the rooms in the kino area. Enough has been written about this Czech beauty so I don’t feel a need to describe her. Her service is everything I remembered it was and more. A very nice contrast to Daniela. I find it an incredible turn-on the way she stares at you when performing her amazing blow-job. She is a passionate and sexy woman and really makes you feel special. Afterwards she asked me why I had been away for so long. It had been nearly a year since my last session with her. I won’t wait that long again.
After contributing to her scholarship fund and did my duty and told her to come see my friend after she was done freshening up. She thanked me and said that she be would over soon. Our friend Chivaz was right were I left him waiting patiently. I explained that she should be a fine and fun contrast to Daniela and would probably be just the right medicine. She arrived, I made introductions, they got to know each other FKK-Style and then left for greener pastures. Again, I will leave it to Chivaz to share his impressions, but I can confidently say that he, like most of us, was very impressed by Andrea’s charms.
I was strongly considering another round with Daniela before hitting the road, but I was pretty sure that the evening’s sex-romp had left me spent. Before leaving I went over to her and wished her a happy vacation and we gave each other a few goodbye gropes and kisses. I am looking forward to the end of June, which should be her approximate return date.
Thus ends my temporary obsession with this lady. She must have something to make me run all over Germany just to spend time with her. Also anyone who can make me pass on a trip to Palace to spend time with the lovely Marina must be doing something right.
Adieu,
Dedalus
after a decent night at oase friday, world was to be the destination of choice on saturday. i have not been that often to world (less than 10 times) and have sometimes in the past had problems finding the place, so this time i printed out directions from the board and took them with me. found the place without a single wrong turn. arrived before 15:00.
the weather was great and i spent some time chilling in the garden. the lineup was rather weak until 17:00 when the second shift was arriving. still an ok lineup for 3 o’clock saturday.
i had made plans to meet dedalus, who then text me that he would be running late so i had done 2 sessions before we met. the first one was with
name: nicole
hair: dark, long, dreadlocks
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, a bit worned, b breasts?
origin: serbian
born: ~ 1980
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: bbbj, dfk
other:
location: fkk world.
i had noticed nicole when i arrived and from distance i did not fancy her. i was relaxing in the kino when she made her move, and it was a move that would get me every time. instead of going for the dick grabbing, sucking etc. she walked up to me, sat down, looked me in the eyes and then without further notice went for an incredibly good and intimate dfk. i was sold.
she has imo very pretty face, has some kind of honesty to it (don’t know how to describe it better) and during the session, i pretty much focused on her face and the incredibly good dfk she provides. did not explore her body that much and i actually don’t remember much about the actual sex, but that girl is a damn good kisser. would repeat.
after the session i did some more chilling in the garden. i think world is going to be pretty hot this summer. the lineup is getting better every time i get there and the facilities are unmatched by frankfurt and vicinity fkk clubs. flamingo island, although smaller, comes close in terms of faclilites, but imo lacks the lineup.
was ready for a second session around 17:30:
name: jemariene?
hair: dark
size: ~ 1,65 m
figure: chubby, soft d breasts
origin: guadalupe
born: 1981
tattoos/piercing: ?
service: bbbj, dfk
other: good english
location: fkk world.
i am not able to get her name right, but i remember i tried to associate it with jamaraquie (the singer). she had come up to me couple of times and i had used the words “perhaps later” in my imo polite brush offs. when she came to me the third time i said no, and she then asked me why i had said “later”. i corrected her and told her i had also used the word “perhaps”. from that we had a nice discussion of ways to express non interest without being rude and at the same time not give indication of interest. one thing led to another and we ended up in a room (as so often happens with me when the discussion part is fun).
the session was so and so. she is actually not my type in terms of body and facial features, but she has a nice personality which made up for it. i was not that much into the session and enjoyed the conversational part better than the sexual part.
dedalus had arrived and immediately done session with daniela so he had a happy smile when we met in the upper bar area. conversation soon went into the direction of who is who at the club and comparing notes. i did not have much to contribute as my world sessions are not that many so i was in the student role. dedalus promised to point out andrea if she would show up as i have never been able to spot her. more on that later.
i had read dedalus’s reports on daniela and based on previous report comparison it seems that we have somewhat similar taste in girls so i asked him to introduce her to me which he happily did. one thing led to another so my third session of the day was with:
name: daniela
hair: brown, curly, shoulder length
size: 168 cm
figure: slender, firm, tastefully enhanced b/c breasts
origin: rumanian
born: 1975
tattoos/piercing: none
service: bbbj, dfk, pse, gfe…. you name it
other:
location: fkk world.
she suggested that we would start in the relaxzone downstairs in one of the sofas. there we began kissing that soon found its way to bbbj. after a while i suggested we find a room. “ok she said”, and then “i never suggest going to room, i always wait until man wants to go to room”. this girls has some good work ethic.
in the room i made an effort to look for her sweet spots and was able to push some buttons that had her going pretty wild and very vocal. i remembered a quote from a board member that says something like “you don’t fuck daniela, daniela fucks you”. well, i decided to try to turn the table and gave her my best effort to have the upper hand in the session and she seemed to enjoy it. i lack the vocabulary in the english language to do this girl justice, but it was a half hour energetic fuckathon that had various bodily parts going into various holes.
when i returned to the upper floor, i found dedalus with the look of a man that is anxious to know if his recommendation was appreciated. i know the feeling when you highly recommend a girl to someone. you feel a bit responsible for the session and hope it goes well. all i can say is “dude! bullseye”. daniela is a girl that i might not have chosen was it not for dedalus’s recommendation and i will be eternally greatful, this was one of the highlights of my mongering career.
i told daniela after the session to meet me at midnight for another session
dedalus did a second run with daniela that he has posted and all i could think of at this time was that i could probably not wait until midnight for a second go so when she came over to chat around 21:30 (she can actually carry out an interesting conversation in english), i went for another session with her. i told her from the start that this time we would do 1 hour session. she said that we would have to go to one of the rooms with mirrors as she wanted to see what i was doing to her that was making her so crazy. i really did not care if there were mirrors or not, but she insisted. we stayed in the hallway downstairs waiting for the mirrored room making out like teenagers. as we were pretty much blocking the hallway (which i think was not appreciated by some of those who were passing by), i suggested we find another room “no” she said, “we will wait until we get a room with mirrors”.
we walked upstairs to see if one of the vip rooms was free and decided to wait there for a while. all of a sudden, daniela spotts the couple coming upstairs that had been occupying the mirrored room downstairs, she screams out and sprints the hallway, down the stairs screeming and shouting. i’ve never seen girl run this fast in such high heels, but she was able to get the room she wanted.
i will not go into details of the hour long session now took place. it was an extreme joy, disturbing, intimate and at times freeked me out. just a total rollercoster ride. wheew, what a night this was turning out to be.
when i returned to the sofa upstairs where dedalus was resting, i think i just babbled some uncomprehensive words of total confusion and disbelief. guys, this girl is great fun from the start, and if you are able to get under her skin, you will be riding a rollercoster wether you like it or not. don’t ask me what i mean by this as i will not explain it further.
now it was a time for some extensive rest. dedalus informed me that he had seen czeck andrea and intended to have a go. i was drained at the time, but i asked him to introduce her to me when they had finished. when dedalus returned, he introduced us and after she did some proper introduction with different body parts, we went to a room and i had my 5th and 6th session pop of the day with:
name: andrea
hair: black, long
size: 160 cm
figure: slim, mmmmmm
origin: czeck rep.
born: 1983
tattoos/piercing: none
service: bbbj, dfk, dt, gfe, anal …. pretty much anything and everything
other: yummy
location: fkk world.
i decided that i would need 1 hour with this girl to enjoy it to the fullest, and informed her of my decision. as i had finished an unbelievable session with daniela not so long ago, i had no hopes of topping that. i was wrong. andrea gave me an unbelivable session. at this time i must stress that i am not a newbee at fkk that thinks that every girl that french kiss is the best. i’ve been visiting the big three for several years and sampled some of the best but this evening just blew my mind.
andrea started with a soft and nice bbbj (in between dfk), and i soon decided to give her the chivaz royal daty. man, this girl has the sweetest most beautiful pussy i’ve seen. i could just munch on that thing for hours. we continued to explore various body parts. then she mounts me 69 and started to give me this incredible deep throat (and by that i mean deep throat). at this time i was just euphoric about this night, i could not help but start to laugh of the whole thing. she seemed happy i was having a good time.
when i came, the session had probably lasted about 45 minutes. i asked her if she knew how long we had stayed in the room, and she said no, that i would have to keep track as she had no idea. i thought what the hell, i am gonna stay as long as i want to. did some relaxing and chatting with her. went for a drink, some more chat and a smoke, and then we started the whole thing all over again with tounges everywhere, more dt etc..
this was my sixth pop of the day and i was not sure if i could finish, but she was determined. the things that she did to make me come can only be described as acrobatic.
when the second round was over, we stayed for a while in the room. i had totally lost track of time. i checked my watch before we started, but had at this time forgotten when we started. when we were ready to get out, i asked her if she knew how long time we had spent in the room. “no” she said, “but i think it was more than an hour” she added with a kind of worried expression as i might disagree. “yes, i am sure it was more than an hour” i said and we agreed it had probably been hour and a half.
when i returned to the couch and did some calculating with dedalus, we figured i had probably spent little over 2 hours with her. i will make it up to her next time. but i can say that she is not a clock watcher, at least not on this occasion.
dedalus and i left at the same time and agreed this had indeed been a night to remember. a night that now stands alone at the top of a list of numerous fkk encounters.
the day after i had planned a sunday daytime visit to palace before my flight home later that evening. at this time i thought about skipping that and quit while on top for the time beeing, but when i woke up the following noon, i of course could not pass on the opportunity to have a peek on what palace had to offer. more on that in next report.
chivaz
For those that frequent this great FKK place: anyone know Maria (Polish)? Short, slightly padded, blonde hair, and a great attitude? I was with her last year and would love to see her again if I can work a Frankfurt visit into the next couple of months. Any info is appreciated! Happy mongering!
Hey guys, if any of you will be at either World or Palace on Wednesday afternoon/evening/night, I'll be there with some friends of mine. At both places, I tend to hang around the bar. I'm wanting to put some faces with the names on here. SO if you are going shoot me a PM.
V
Dedalus, Chivaz,
I really enjoyed your reports. Andrea and Daniela are certainly as great as both of you experienced. I have known both of them for a long time, and I can fully testify to the fact that your reports are not exagerated. I have known Andrea since her first week at World (and I believe that I was the first one to report on her in this forum ;-)). Andrea's people skills are absolutely amazing. She is just the nicest person you could ever meet - inside or outside of an FKK. And I knew Daniela before her enhanced days, but she always has had this incredible appetite for sex. She is truly a nymphomaniac. With her, you never seem to get the faked performance, but true lust. I am also not an exhibitionist, but she managed to f*** me in the middle of the "wintergarten" at World. (I was lucky that I had just come back from another session before she attacked me. That made me last longer with her than I otherwise would have. Still, I only lasted about 20 minutes with her before I could not hold back from popping.)
Neither of these two girls ranks in my top-10 all-time as far as looks go. But together with Oase's Eva and two girls I had in Rio, these two make my top-5 all-time in terms of performace and sheer enthusiasm.
... ahh, I wish I was at World right now ...
You guys are lucky dogs!!!
euro
Hi Euro,
Glad you enjoyed.
Now that I have had some time to reflect a bit on last Saturday, I agree that those two are perhaps not the most beautiful girls you can find in a "looking from a few meters" kind of a way. I would though say that while having sex, their expressions are great. Andreas big eyes staring at you with this horny mouth expressions are just amazing. Danielas vocal expressions do the same for me. Both of them are beautiful girls with good bodies although not the model types. It is their performance and attidues towards you that just make them more sexy and beautiful. I would not want to rank them against each other. Both are amazing and different.
While at World, the idea of a threesome with them sprang into my mind, but when I think more of it, I think it is a bad idea. You need your full attention on each of those girls. Can't do them justice by sharing.
I would say from waist down, Andrea is unbeaten in my book, ohhh what a wonderful pussy, I can still remember the look, smell and taste of her. There's a thing to get addicted to. Just as good that I don't live in the area. I agree that she is the sweetest thing (the whole package). It is amazing that the girl can be like that after two years of hard work in this business.
In terms of emotional rollercoster kind of thing, I have very seldom had a session like with Daniela, she has a way to create an atmosphere in the room like no other can. I still have trouble believing some things were real, but there were some things going on that are pretty hard to fake.
I still am euphoric over last Saturday, having those prolonged sessions with them where I was able to click with both of them after an average night at Oase on Friday was like heaven on earth.
Time now to my blood pressure to normal,
Chivaz
While at World, the idea of a threesome with them sprang into my mind, but when I think more of it, I think it is a bad idea. You need your full attention on each of those girls. Can't do them justice by sharing.
Chivaz
Man, a threesome with those two is a heart attack just waiting to happen!
I agree that, as wild and sexy as it may sound, these girls are best enjoyed one on one. Then again, who knows...;-)
Rumor is that Daniela is still there. I may have to make a run to world just to survey the lay-out;-)
Cheers,
Dedalus
Neither of these two girls ranks in my top-10 all-time as far as looks go. But together with Oase's Eva and two girls I had in Rio, these two make my top-5 all-time in terms of performace and sheer enthusiasm.
... ahh, I wish I was at World right now ...
You guys are lucky dogs!!!
euro
Euro,
Have you seen Eva/Gina in lately? I would love to see her again. I hear now and then rumors of her mid-week appearances but have not seen her in awhile.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Funny how YMMV with the grils. Although I found Eva very sweet and nice conversation, She really did not get my juices flowing that much sexual wise and the sex part of our session was only so and so. The chat we had afterwards was very nice though.
My top three that are working at the moment are Andrea and Daniela at World and Lizzy at Oase. Unfortunately, I think Lizzy only shows up once in a while. I have heard wonderful things about Cindy and Marina at Palace, but never been able to catch a session with them. There is always something yet to try.
Chivaz
www.fkk-world.de, they have updated the site and there are some new girl pictures
Chivaz
Several quick answers:
I did not mean to imply that Daniela and Andrea are bad-looking; they are gorgeous, but just not in my top 10. And I agree that Andrea has a great pair of legs and what's between them.
Eva: I mean the girl from Denmark who shows up only occasionally at Oase. I have never heard her called Gina. Perhaps we are not talking abou the same girl.
New FKKW web site: yes, this is a definite improvement. Now they are showing girls that actually work there. Before, they just had stock footage on display. Plus, the new web site really gives you a feeling of what the facilities look like.
euro
Euro,
Eva has sometimes gone by the name of Gina and claims to be Danish but there is some controversy about that as well. Rumor is that she is actually Lithuanian. God love all these ladies but it is difficult to know the truth about any of them.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I arrived at World around 2 p.m. after having met an undertowel-investigator who had been observing the place for the last days and had already reported about Ramona´s return. The weather was great ( the first really sunny weekend this year in Germany) and I couldn´t wait to place myself at the outdoor-pool. "Come all over have some fun, banging in the midday sun..."
No chance. Katharina wanted to stay at a nice, cool place and I was overruled 2 (tits) : 1 (heini) to walk to one of the small rooms behind the cinema. OK, I didn´t have to regret it - the session was great, as always. Katharina plans to stay until May, 5th, eventually until May, 12th at World and will go back to Russia, then. Her return is announced for September.
Her stats again, for all those guys who are quick enough:
name: Katharina
origin: Russia
born: ~ 1981
hair: blond, straight, long
figure: slender, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for great GFE
Seeing this as my farewell-session to Katharina, I was looking out for my welcome-session with Ramona. But this turned out to be somewhat like "Waiting for Godot" - she was just too busy.
Ellie from Bulgaria couldn´t see me suffering (in fact she wanted to earn some money, but that´s just too disenchanting to write down) and started to comfort me. And she didn´t need long to convince me that it would be a waste of time just sitting around waiting for Ramona Godot.
"Miss Ellie" looks like the average "girl next door", but she has a very winning personality and behaviour - in fact I wished I had at least one girl like her next door. that would save me 180 km per weekend - and some Euros.
She delivered DFK, lots of tender stroking and cuddling during the "presales"-phase already, an forced up at the room. She chose the mirror chamber for our session, so I could adore 4 Ellies performing arts (the only bad thing were the three guys in the mirrors wearing 5 kg too much weight on their hips. Either we have to do some workout or we´ll have to avoid this room in the future. Anyway, Ellie did a good job so we were able to overcome our frustration easily). Ellie delivered a true GFE. Like Katharina and Ramona she is able to give you the illusion that she is enjoying exactly the things you want to do right now. A clear recommendation for GFE-lovers, as you can see on my girl number three this day: Ellie again. I had to. She left me no choide. But I wouldn´t have wanted another one. She´ll be on vacation from next week on.
Her stats:
name: Ellie
origin: Bulgaria
born: ~ 1982)
hair: brown, curly, shoulder-length
figure: slender, B/C-breast
height: ~ 155 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highly recommended for GFE
Number four was Alina from Romania, a very good-looking young girl with really good German skills (I know, that´s interesting only for me...) and enough brain to make good use of this. A charming person. In the room she delivered good service without losing control. I will surely repeat, but next time I´ll try to get closer to her mentally before getting close to her physically. The weakest session of the evening, but still a really good one. She´ll be off for vacation from pentcost on.
her stats:
name: Alina
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
hair: dark, straight, shoulder-length
figure: slender, B/C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: YMMV
It was midnight, and I decided to relax for two hours. Woke up again at 2 p.m. (not getting disturbed by any woman thanks to Ruth at the lower bar who protected me) and went upstairs for a snack. And who was there waiting to serve the next 50€-note on legs? Her Royal seductiveness, Queen of Hearts Ramona Godot the First and Only! GFE at it´s best. Sweet thing - she made my heart sing. She just came back from vacation and will stay until July.
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
And the end I gave two fellow mongers a lift to the airport (it was really great meeting you and the other fellow members!) - three guys, three cases and the rest of my Stuttgart survival kit - we really filled the car. But it was a funny end of a nice night at World.
Have fun,
Novize
Now they are showing girls that actually work there.
Objection: Most of the girls shown in the Gallery don´t work at World anymore. Some of them quit the job completely and don´t even work at another club.
Have fun,
Novize
Friday the 29th
Even a terrific club like FKK World can have its off days. It would be unfair for us to expect that this Sauna club giant should be immune from these phases. Still, after so many naughty nights ensconced in the bosom of World’s wonderful and exciting debauchery, one tends to get picky and “Tiefphasen” such as what I observed this past Friday can make you wonder if all the stars in the FKK galaxy are properly aligned.
A trip to Pohlheim was already on my agenda for this Friday. Even though I spent the last several weeks concentrating mainly on Daniela, this did not stop me from making a long list of World-angels that would need my blessings in the near future, and with Daniela’s pending absence I was sure that there would be no better time than the present to undertake my plans.
On Friday morning I received words, much to my surprise that Lady D was still working her charms in Pohlheim. This served as a great incentive to hit the road running.
Arrived at World around 6:20, which upon reflection was not bad considering the Friday traffic jams. Word soon reached me that I missed Daniela by one day. “Mist” as the Germans would say. Still, as I had a “to-do” list, I was not too heart broken. Also it would be a good night meet and get to know several board members who made the evenings festivities even more entertaining than usual.
At the bar I made eye contact with CINDY as she strolled up to where I was standing. I had been through this ritual with her during my last visit but decided to pass on a session. Cindy is a real looker and her glasses are a real turn-on in my opinion! She flirts with them there eyes as well as or better than any FKK girl that I know. After exchanging the obligatory “Hellos”, name exchanges, and some bar-stool touchy-feelies, she led me off to the World kino with its massive couches. I could not help admiring those long legs the entire walk over. My hopes were indeed high for a wonderful session. We set up our love shack on the back couch and everything started out pretty promisingly. We engaged in a bit a tongue action, which after some of the reports that I read, somewhat pleasantly surprised me. She used her mouth and tongue with great expertise all over my body. Her BBBJ skills are top notch and these alone may be worthy of a repeat performance. As we got into the sex, things started to go a little south when I started putting my hands on a few body parts that must have been overly sensitive (feet, underarms, vagina). Now I am pretty generous in situations like this. It is not the first time that a girl has asked me not to touch her in a certain area and I always respect this. What I don’t like is when a girl slaps my hands away. One gets that from window and laufhaus girls and not from the better FKK ladies. Also this action is one of the few things that a girl can do to ruin an otherwise good session. It was strange because she seemed quite open during foreplay to letting me touch her breasts, vagina, etc, yet during the sex she became really weird about it.
The session was still OK and I wondered to myself and a few other FKKers whether or not Cindy would be a Top-Act if one were to invest more time and dough in her. She is so damn cute that despite my disappointment I almost did a repeat with her in the hopes that she would be more open and adventurous. I may well give her another chance on my next visit. Fazit: Great foreplay, sub-standard sex.
After the Cindy-session I went looking for a few board members who I knew would be there. I had a good time conversing with Shiatsu, Cordelia, Pepto, and the Admiral. To one and all: I enjoyed making your acquaintances and hope that we can meet up again soon.
Later, the lovely RAMONA approached me thanks to the good judgment and observations of dear ole’ Fred who sent her my way. She approached me from behind and after dealing with a minor eye problem we exchanged glances. This is another lady with super eye-flirting abilities! I was quickly hooked and led away by this Romanian beauty. My session with her turned out to be another Rumanian success story and makes me wonder where all the negative critiques of the Rumanians have come from. I have even spoken with girls from other clubs who, when they talk about FKKW, always mention the high number of Rumanians who work there. What gives?
Our good friend Novize has described Ramona so well that I cannot add anything new. I will say that for those who want a true GFE experience, this is the lady. After three weeks of crazy, complicated, wild gymnastics with other Rumanians, Ramona was just what the sex-doctor ordered. Our session would prove to be so satisfying that I would repeat it later in the evening.
Thank goodness for Ramona, for the line-up that evening was sub-par at best. There were a few nice girls present but compared to the last few weeks of other worldly line-ups at Pohlheim, the outlook was a bit bleak.
Aside from the ravishing Ramona, probably the highlight of the evening came at about 20 minutes till closing time. Usually when the morning hours start to roll in, it seems as though the girls at World begin to take on an aura of frisky silliness combined with occasion fits of mad-cap humor. Perhaps this is the result of sheer fatigue however I would not rule out other “inspirations.” As Pepto, Admiral and I were relaxing on the sofas two young ladies (I wish I knew their names) began to enact a 10-15 minute sex-parody, occasionally using a rolled up towel in the form of a rather thick penis as a prop. It was grand hilarity! Try to imaging what it would look like if the comedic souls of Chico and Harpo Marx were trapped in the bodies of two shapely-adorables. Then picture the two of them doing a lampoon on the Kama Sutra. The three of us were grabbing our sides from laughter.
Thus ended a night of great FKK fellowship and fun, despite the middle-of-the-road dance card. I am quite certain that the thinning out of World talent was an exception and not the rule. I am still betting that this will be the place to be this summer.
Cheers to all,
Dedalus
Dedalus,
Cindy CAN be a very good provider, but her service can be very strange, too. This doesn´t really depend on her customers, it depends solely on herself.
My sessions with her are a while back, but I remember them as really good ones. I never approached her, but waited for her to prover her flirting skills at me for some time before I went to action with her. And, the sessions became better with the time. I think she knows most of the customers and what to expect from them. And if she is really in the mood to earn her money at you, she´s a great provider. When she is not in the mood for the kind of play you want, she won´t flirt with you.
Of course this works with known customers only. As I read your report, it was your first session with her (or, better, her first session with you). This working method is a "hit or miss" for the first session. But when she will start flirting with you the next time, she will know what you prefer. If she doesn´t start the flirt, she´s not willing to provide the service you´re looking for. Maybe she won´t look at you for weeks and then, suddenly, approach you without warning.
As for the Romanians: I think the complaints about the Romanians are not caused by the romanian girls who work at World for a longer time but by those "short term visitors", who stay at the club for two or three wekks, provide services under price and get fired after the first health-check or for what reason ever. In big numbers, romanion girls like these show up at World only, ans that´s an issue for the other girls.
Have fun,
Novze
Hey all i will be back in germany from 9-16 and would love to meet up for a party at world. anyone else who might like to do it drop me a line and i will make plans for the date. I may also try my luck in Poland. Have read some good things. PM me and i will gve ya my number
reddog
I visited World three times (also visiting Oase on which I have reported) - Thursday, Friday and Sunday. I was very slow on the sessions - only going three times despite being there for some long time.
The Club had a good atmosphere on most days - there were enough men on most days to keep the girls happy. As the girls say - keine Manner, Keine Geld, keine Ficky Ficky, Scheiss (or something like that) This time they were more relaxed most of the time, with no aggressive marketing.
The only exception was Thursday. I got bothered a bit much by girls I did not fancy - one Serbian (the one with braided extensions actually bit ( I mean really bit) my nose when I refused her - I was polite but she was not. I think she is a bit mad. On Friday she spent about six hours with a man, both she and he dressed in towels so she was not working, but from time to time she pretended to be doing something sexy to show off and then laughed unpleasantly ant anyone who watched her. On Saturday she had sex in the garden and one man was watching - she got irritated that she was being watched - but what does she expect in the garden? A very mixed up girl?
I went with Viagra. Well, actually that's the wrong verb. She jumped on top of me. Lips, breasts, bum and all. To say nothing of wandering hands and her huge laugh. I could not resist. I like Viagra because you get what you see -uncomplicated good natured energetic sex. I had a second session with her on a different day - this time she jumped on me and we had sex on one of the couches. Viagra will for preference have sex in public - it 's good for business. When I had come (all too quickly) she stayed on the couch for the rest of the half hour. Of course I believe Viagra when she says she is there only for me and cries when I go (gales of Viagra laughter)
I also went with Hannah. My fifth session in total with her. She is getting better at sex. More interesting was the talk we had in the room - many of the girls want to discuss the issue of partners/spouses knowing about me and them being in an FKK - for some of the girls it is an issue since they would like to tell their boyfriends etc. that they work at World. Of course some of them have already done this.
I lost my locker key - the cost for replacement is 50E. Fortunately my belongings were intact and at the end of the night I got the 50E back as some honest soul had handed it in. I informed the reception that it was a great shame as I had been intending to give the 50e to a girl - reception (Anastasia?) feigned blushing embarassment that I had been going to give it to her (or was it my awful German which caused her to blush)
Petra at the bar continues to campaign to correct my German. And I realised they give alcohol free beer - which brightens up the quiet moments
The non-recipient of my key-diverted 50E would have been Magda. I had though t she did not recognise me but she spoke to me and detailed all of our previous encounter from three months previous. I wonder how the girls remember such detail. By the way - there is a picture of her on the World website (does not do her justice)
The sun was shining on Sunday so there were lots of men. And the good thing is that most of them were looking for women, not just sunbathing (wrinkles and leathers the skin). The grill was out - a diet of sausage, sausage, and sausage from now until September. The atmosphere was excellent in the afternoon - at one point there were no free girls but lots of confused men "I have come to an FKK and all I can find are men!" As the day wore on the girls had lots of time as the number of men fell, but as thay had had a surprising good afternoon they seemed more relaxed than normal.
So, once again, World emerges as my favourite - especially after the awful experience I had at Oase.
Hi Shiatsu,
I had a pretty good session with the Serbian two weeks ago. Did not fancy her body, but her DFK is really good.
Viagra told me that she is not the same Viagra that was there last year, that it was her sister. I don't know if that is true or not. I agree with your assesment of her and I have had very fun times with her although I have never found my way into room with her.
Chivaz
Chivaz
I'm sure the Serbian may well be good in the room - it's just that my nose was very sore from her teeth. And that's not the part of my anatomy I want overused at World.
Viagra was there last year - it sounds like a typical Viagra lunacy to tell you it was her sister. If you go to a room with her she behaves just as she is outside. Maybe I'm wrong but she seems genuinely comfortable with herself and her life and maybe that's why she gives good service. Not my favourite girl since I prefer a bit less over the top normally!!. Maybe that's why Viagra is good for me and why I like her.
Dedalus - you question why the negative comments about the Rumanians. I think you are right that this is no longer a reflection of how th club is. It's another reminder of how quickly things change.
In my opinion, as Novize says, the issue is not really with the longer term Rumanian girls who seem to be good. The problems were with a group who seem to have reduced in numbers. These ones tended to look upon the customers as mere money fodder and to keep themselves apart from the other girls. On my recent visit I noticed that nearly all of these were absent (maybe because of Orthodox Easter) and that the ethnic and age range of the club was much wider than previously. The balance seems to be much better now - and those Rumanians who are there seems to be fine - as you mention yourself, Ramona, Magda, Hannah (Hungarian? but I count her as Rumanian),
So I echo Novize and yourself - with the nice weather here don't let any wsg members be put off by Rumanian problems which appear to be now in the past (at least for this week)
By the way, I am told that Rumanian Ambra is coming back in July. She was there for six weeks last year in the university holidays. I found her to be a lovely sensible girl (Bet I can't remember what she looks like after a year)
We tried the Etap - about 15+ minutes drive from World and 50E a night for double. It was exceptionally good value. Very basic but clean and efficient with polite staff. Next to two gigantic sex shops and to supermarkets (ubiquitous Aldi and Lidl) and McDonalds and Burger King. Clientele was mainly working men and business men but no raucous stuff
We also returned to the Steinsgarten - 90E for a double if you prepay. In comparison to other hotels (apart from the Etap) in the area it is very good value. Much better if you want to sleep late and have a bit of comfort. Only ten minutes from World by car
Yes I can imagine she would be rather over the top. I can understand why she would be on your blacklist!. Certainly not GFE but energetic.
One wsg member I spoke to reported on the problems (now some time ago I think) he had because other wsg members had printed out his posts and showed them to the girls. This is something we discussed on the forum some time ago. Can I just ask any members who are thinking of telling the girls about who has posted what, not to do so. By the way, thanks to the member who, when one girl was was telling him about myself, kept a dicreet silence about my posts
Does World still have lingerie days and what days are they?
And, more importantly, how much lingerie is actually worn?
Thanks,
Pete
The only exception was Thursday. I got bothered a bit much by girls I did not fancy - one Serbian (the one with braided extensions actually bit ( I mean really bit) my nose when I refused her - I was polite but she was not. I think she is a bit mad. On Friday she spent about six hours with a man, both she and he dressed in towels so she was not working, but from time to time she pretended to be doing something sexy to show off and then laughed unpleasantly ant anyone who watched her. On Saturday she had sex in the garden and one man was watching - she got irritated that she was being watched - but what does she expect in the garden? A very mixed up girl?Hi Shiatsu,
I was the guy who spent more than six hours with Nicola and I must say it was one of my best GFE experiences in the World. She was working but only with me and we had three wonderful sessions. We both were tired from the days before and we took it bit slower. I met Nicola Wednesday on one of my 6 sessions (that’s why I was so tired) and we could find it with each other, so I decided to spend the Friday afternoon with here. Indeed she sometimes was doing something sexy to other men (even to my brother) but I think it was here way to make me a bit jealous and to urge me for another session.
It was a wonderful day for me and I will repeat it the next time I’m going over there. I prefer to stay the whole day with the same girl (when it’s going very good) than to jump from one girl to another and have a few bad sessions. Not that I had one this time.
Maybe it wasn’t here day Thursday and I’m glad she didn’t bite me and that everything is still hanging where it should be. I hope I can go back very soon.
Greetings,
Pilot
This is Tuesdays. Basicaly it's bra and knickers or camisoles etc. The approach tends to be feminine rather than sexy or raunchy (well, in my opinion anyway)
Just curious, as long as we're on the subject of these bloody dessous tags, etc: Can anyone explain why they have these things anyway? I mean, is there really some kind of fascination amongst the German male population with girls being semi-clad as opposed to "splitter nakt" (stark naked) as they normally are? Do the club managers really think that some guys are just holding back from fkking during the weekend, just waiting for that one weekday night when the girls cover up a bit? Is it supposed to be some kind of a draw? And because one club does it, e.g. Oase on Thurs nights, so the other two clubs follow suit so that they conform to the traditional pattern? Is that it?
Personally, I always dread the cover-up nights at these clubs, and wonder privately whether some girls also think it is a bunch of burdonsome bullshit, because they then have to A) cough up some cash to buy their one-day-per-week outfit; B) have to enter the creativity competition when their outfits are inevitably compared to other girls' costumes...
So just curious: Do any of you regular fkk visitors actually enjoy these nights? I certainly wouldn't cry if they did away with them. But that is because they seem so pointless to me. Can somebody enlighten me as to the point behind them?
Thanks.
I can think of a variety of reasons. 1) new girls might feel more comfortable partially clothed. 2) Variety, sometimes less is more. 3) The atmospere becomes less brothel and more strip club. Creativity is not a bad thing. At Palace most girls wrap something around their waist instead of using a towel. It makes them more distinguishable.
Like my eteemed coleague Ortos, I prefer naked to dessous and will try and avoid a club on dessous tag. However, it is also a real turn on to undress a girl, or to feel her up over her little panties, pull them aside and play with her, pull them down slowly and even leave them around her thighs while you- well you get the picture. Problem is, most girls won't let you mess with their costumes (one exception was the lovely Nina in Amsterdam- she is great at the lap dance foreplay). They tend to just take it off quickly by themselves.
I guess one must buy them something and have them put it on so you can take it off again any way you please.
Shiatsu- Nicola bit you? I went with her one time though I did not fancy her either. She caught me at a at a vulnerable moment when I was totally kaput, it was basically a mellow massage, talk, and nap session. It was a mistake, she was nice enough but very aggressive girl.
Member Novize- you wrote:
Cindy CAN be a very good provider, but her service can be very strange, too. This doesn´t really depend on her customers, it depends solely on herself.My sessions with her are a while back, but I remember them as really good ones. I never approached her, but waited for her to prover her flirting skills at me for some time before I went to action with her. And, the sessions became better with the time. I think she knows most of the customers and what to expect from them. And if she is really in the mood to earn her money at you, she´s a great provider. When she is not in the mood for the kind of play you want, she won´t flirt with you. Of course this works with known customers only. As I read your report, it was your first session with her (or, better, her first session with you). This working method is a "hit or miss" for the first session. But when she will start flirting with you the next time, she will know what you prefer. If she doesn´t start the flirt, she´s not willing to provide the service you´re looking for. Maybe she won´t look at you for weeks and then, suddenly, approach you without warning.
Very interesting. On my second day at World, after playfully yelling at me that I was spending too much time in the garden and not enough on sex, Cindy took me to the kino. As I tried to kiss her, she turned away (my breath was perfect- I gargle and eat Listerine strips all day and brush after I eat. I tried again and she said- If you want to kiss then I guess you must find another girl- then she left me in the kino. For months now I ignore or we smile a bit, she sees I am a fairly regular customer every couple of months, but last week, she was again pinching my ass a couple of times. Is it time to try again? Do you like her hair black or blonde better.
Enjoyed seeing all you guys last week. Working on some reports.
Beffen
Pilot - Well done. Thanks for correcting my false conclusions. I am really pleased to hear that you had a good time and that Nicole is good. You obviously got on very well with her - the pair of you seemed not to be provider and client. It is hard to guess whether a girl is good or not - I think maybe my bitten nose may have impaired my judgement!!
Ortos - from what I understand dessous is not popular with the girls. And it's certainly not popular with me.
OK, time to confess. I am one of the twisted weirdos who like the dessous days. Eye-candy for me. Properly placed, some of these sexy outfits can really enhance the body.
I remember the Oase holiday party a ocuple of years ago. Jasmin had one of these cute red Santa hats on, red fishnet stockings that went halfway up her upper thigh, red garter belt, nothing else. That really got me into the Christmas spirit! (Excuse me while I wipe the drool off my keyboard...) We never actually bothered to take any of this off during sex.
:-)
euro
Shiatsu,
Thank you for your positive reaction. I just wanted to let you know I had such a good time with Nicola and that she deserves also good comments on the forum. We could get on very well with each other and it didn’t seem or feel like a provider-client thing at all. That’s probably the reason why I (and Nicola also) had such a great time and if I could do it over again I wouldn’t doubt a second.
I can understand that other men (including you) haven’t had such a good experience with her. I’ve had it also with other girls. It changes in many cases from day to day and from person to person.
Next time we have to talk to each other. I didn’t know who you were. It’s a pity.
Greetings,
Pilot
If any club owner is reading this forum and is at all interested, please note that the first thing I learn about your club is when its dessous day (if any) is, and the second thing is that I then strictly avoid going to your club on that day.
Visited World again last sunday to meet some friends. I Arrived around 8 p.m. and missed many faces I´ve grewn accustomed to in the last weeks (months? years? God, they´re getting old!). Therfor I recognized lots of new women.
My last week´s new experience Alina had a new friend, Larissa. She was working at World for two weeks already, but I hadn´t recognized her so far. A very pretty , friendly face, and dark glowing eyes convinced me to give her a try.
Although the place was very quiet, she suggested to go to a room immediately. I didn´t object, and we ended in one of these boxes beneath the masseur. Her service was a little bit artificial (alright, it´s always artificial, but who wants to recognize that during the session), but she really tried to please - and succeeded in the end... ;-)
Very talented, she just needs some experience to make a great session instead of "just" a very good one. (Is it possible that I´m too spoiled in the meantime by having met so many great providers in the last three years?). Anyway, this girls has potential, I will repeat surely.
Her stats:
name: Larissa
origin: Romania
born: ~ 1982
hair: black ponytail
figure: slender, female, C-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: a talented newcomer
Having recovered from the session after some time I place myself on a couch in the upper hall and watched the scenery, thinking of who might be my next victim. I had recognized Romanza already, but she seemed to be a little frustrated. I decided to approach her in the early morning. Alina again? There would be time enough for a ittle warm-up-chat before the session, since the place was very quiet now. Or a newcomer again? There were some really interesting new women...
As always, when one thinks for too long, the decision gets made by another one. This time it was Christina/Chrissie - not from Poland, but from Romania (? I didn´t even ask, it´s just a guess). She sat herself on my lap and began some intense DFK until I surrendered and we went off for a room.
We had a more "sportive" session, something I usually do not prefer. But what she did was very good. It was just not my style. I would recommend her for those guys who like it more sportive than I do. She offered sometheing between GFE and PSE. Hard to describe after just having survived Father´s Day...
Her stats:
name: Chrissie/Christina
origin: Romania (?)
born: ~ 1982
hair: dark-blond, curly, shoulder-length
figure: slender, A-breast
height: ~ 165 cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: intimate PSE? Sportive GFE?
It was time for some extreme relaxing, so I slept a couch at the lower bar, where I was quiet sure not to be waken up by "love-seeking" females.
I woke up just in time to have a little chat with my friends at the upper bar before they left. Alone between women... For my great luck, Romanza was already standing beside me, so I didn´t have to think about what to do next. Romanza again, this time pampering me just laying on my back. The great thing about Romanza is, that whatever you want, she gets it and seems to enjoy giving you pleasure. Imho that´s what makes a good provider an aoutstanding one...
Her stats again ans again:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
After the session we went to the sauna together until it was time to dress. Again the best at last...
are there currently any non-romanian women at World?
Peter,
Yes, there are.
First I have to admit that Chrissy isn´t from Romania but from Bulgaria, as I was taught in the meantime.
Then, there were about 5 - 6 Latinas on duty, also numerous girls from Czech, Poland and Germany.
But the main source for supplies still is Romania, followed by Bulgaria. Since early 2004, in anticipation of the EU-enlargement...
But most of the romanian girls working at World now are very nice, not the moneysuckers anymore that used to fill the place.
Have fun,
Novize
Just to echo Novize.
I think the percentage of Rumanians has eased. The ones who did not give good service seem to have gone. Bad service doesn't do the club any good. The club now has a really good atmosphere. The women seem to have a camaraderie absent in some other clubs
There are Brazilian, Cuban. Jamaican, German, other East European/Russian, and English to my knowledge. So the complaints about Rumanian seem now to be past (although I notice on one German forum that someone still is complaining)
Mind Snatcher
05-14-05, 21:53
if any club owner is reading this forum and is at all interested, please note that the first thing i learn about your club is when its dessous day (if any) is, and the second thing is that i then strictly avoid going to your club on that day.
hi tosc, i also used to avoid the dessous day, having had bad experiences a couple of years ago (higher average age, big tummies concealed, and simply not so much of a turn-on when the girls aren't as nature intended). however, i was at bhh last week and it had to be thursday! but i was really pleasantly surprised. half the girls seemed to ignore the dessous code, and most of the others were very lightly draped in mini sashes and the like. i had a really good time and as long as it is optional as it seems to be these days, it's surely not going to be a problem. or are they stricter at fkkw??
It was a dull and dreary day in Frankfurt, when I set out to Pohlheim and FKK-World. I used the "dummies" directions, which is probably the most straigtforward instructions to reach FKK-World, without wondering around the countryside.
I reached there about 2:45 PM and it was very quiet. I even found parking in Parkplatz 2, which is normally overflowing. Paid the entry fee, disrobed and stashed my clothes in the locker and valuables in the small locker, showered and entered heaven [OT: Why do they have the colored coded, perforated band affixed to your wrist? Anyone?] Breakfast was the only food available there.
Settled down at the bar with a "cola" to survey the candy. There were only about 20 women and about 15 men, at that time. Very slow. I resolved to myself that the first session would be with one of the stars - Katherina, Andrea, Ramona, Larissa. But, I was still waiting for one of them, an hour later. So, I selected a new comer - Diana, from Moscow, an energy engineering student. She has been in Germany only for one month and has briefly worked in Oase in Burgholzhausen. She was about 175 cm tall, slim with slightly frizzled blonde hair and B-cups. She speaks decent English, which was very helpful in communicating with her. The session was allright, and as it was the first unload, ended rather quickly. Overall rating: 6.50/10.00
After the first session, I was trawling upstairs and downstairs to hook one of the stars, when magically Ramona introduced herself. I was not convinced that it really was her as I have never seen her before. Went to one of the VIP rooms for the first test drive - which fizzled out, as it was less than an hour after the first session. Jr. would not cooperate and having no access to the little blue pill, completed the session with Ramona, by giving her a pressure points massage. She enjoyed the massage. So, no rating for Ramona, yet. By the way, does the clock continue to run, when you give a massage to the service provider? Could someone clarify this, please?
Took a three-hour break after Ramona. Spent a lot of time in the 95 sauna, walking outside in the garden, cooling off in the cool drizzle and just lounging around on the couches, watching the action. There seemed to be a lot of Russian girls today. Irina and Mary were only two of this group. There was also a pretty Turkish student, who was working only her third weekend at FKK-World. A very shy girl - Alisha. Also, looked at an Oriental girl [Thai?] who was working there. Does anyone have any field reports in this one? Looked hot! And, the contingent from Brazil was in operation, accosting potential clients.
Towards the end, I watched some terrific couch action being provided by Sarah, a French[M]-Iranian[F] from Strasbourg, with very pretty eyes and slighly saggy, definitely not bouncy C-cups, accompanied by a headful of pretty black hair. Dragged Sarah to the kino and she did not disappoint. Excellent dfk and bbbj was provided. She watches you constantly with her dreamy, beautiful eyes, during dfk and bbbj, which makes it all the more erotic. CIM was an option at E50 upgrade. Also, anal was an option at E100 upgrade. She has a nice f/licky technique, which is quite pleasurable, especially when she is working on the inner-upper thighs and balls. Overall rating:8.00/10.00. I would certainly repeat with her.
Unfortunately, I could not locate Andrea of the Czech Republic or Katharina from Russia. I do not know if they were off, this weekend.
Even with this low level of activity, I was terribly hungry by this time. And, so I left by 9:00 PM for Frankfurt, for a nice steak dinner at the Maredo Steak House. Enjoyable evening, although the weather was terrible.
Cheers!
ChicagoMan
Thanks for the great report, Chicago! I alot of guys complain about rainy days, etc. But personally I can think of nothing better to do on a rainy day than visit an FKK!
[OT: Why do they have the colored coded, perforated band affixed to your wrist? Anyone?]
Since a lot of guys managed to get into the club without paying the entrance fee and then shared the locker with a friend, the management decided to use these bands.
Another advantage is for the accounting, since for every band used there should be 65,- € at the end of the day...
By the way, does the clock continue to run, when you give a massage to the service provider? Could someone clarify this, please?
Yes, I can. And yes, the clock continues to run. The time spent in a room counts against the clock, whatever you do there.
(During a session, I once heard a man quoting parts of the Holy Bible in the next room. He had to pay. I couldn´t really do what I had in mind with the girls I was together because of this. I had to pay, too.)
Unfortunately, I could not locate Andrea of the Czech Republic or Katharina from Russia.
Andrea´s on vacation but should be back at World soon.
Katharina has left Germany and will hopefully return in September.
Have fun,
Novize
One more night in world.
I was at world last Sunday along with some other members. I can only say I was surprised with my over all experience, because when I arrived I was a bit disappointed with the line up but over all I had a very nice time
A girl from Lithuania I forgot her name nothing special but did not like to kiss.
Then I had a great session with a Russian Diana I think I wish I could remember her name. She is a tall slim blond (I am told she has big feet) I did not notice. She is a good one to try if her names come back I will edit the post
Then had to go with Ramona I can only say that this Romanian just gets better every time. I hope I get to see her again this summer
Finished with a girl from Rio with a great A$$ (she often has a green belt think around her back side~) she was a bit rushed in the room but at 3 AM I did not what much more anyway.
I was at world saturday and sunday both days where a bit slow with the girls saturday i wnet home early as i was tired from all the traveling this week. Sunday i really thought it would be a bad day but it turned out to be quite ok. I am still looking forward to the summer at world.
RD
Hi RedDog,
Your Russian might have been Katharina, at least the description fits. She has consistent good reviews and is known to provide a good GFE (I have yet to sample). Don't know about the big feet thing though, have not noticed.
Chivaz
Chivaz,
Word from our on-site reporter Novize, is that Katharina is away for a few months causing great longing in the hearts of all her fans.
Cheers,
Dedalus
was Diana, a real cutie.
I have no personal experience with her, but she made a very good impression when I saw her taking care of other clients.
Have fun,
Novize
I went to World again for the usual sunday-routine. After having picked up a friend at his hotel we arrived at approx. 13:15. Unfortunately the weather didn´t allow a relaxing sunbath at the outside pool. Hope dies last, but if the weather won´t change soon, I´ll have to write a new version of the "summertime blues"...
The place was nearly empty when we entered, but should become more lively in the late afternoon/early evening.
Romanza appeared late that day, too late for me to wait for her. Although I recognized many new and interesting faces (and bodies :D ) I finally decided to approach Geri again.
The session with Geri was absolutely OK, although I was already weakened (by standing up too early and working too hard in the morning). So I didn´t went into action but let Geri just do her job. Not really easy without any feedback from the client, but Geri managed the situation perfectly and proved herself as a safe bet.
Her stats:
name: Geri
hair: brown, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,70 m
figure: slim, B-breasts
origin: Bulgarian
born: ~ 1984
tattoos/piercing: None
service: good GFE
other:
Although I hadn´t really done anything, I was hungry after the session. The food was OK and brought me back to life for a certain time.
After having recovered, I placed myself beneath Romanza, who was sitting on a couch waiting for a customer. After a short small-talk we went downstairs for the best 30-min.-romance 50 € can buy. What a great woman!!!
Her stats once more:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 185 cm with shoes, 165 cm without
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
For the third session, I decided to approach someone who was new to me: Jacqueline from Poland. We had a very funny conversation in the upper hall before I invited her to go downstairs. Since I wasn´t into heavy action I opted for a BBBJTC, which she delivered perfectly.
Her stats:
name: Jacqueline
origin: Poland
born: 1985
hair: blond, long,
figure: slim, B-breast
height: ~175 cm
tattoos/piercings: big tattoo on her back
other:
I made an appointment with Romanza for the late evening, before I went for some extreme relaxing downstairs. But a most honourable fellow mwmber of this board decided that it was better for me to sleep and took my place instead. And he was right,. Having had a long hard day behind me I needed to sleep – I was already scheduled for Saunaworld the next day.
But this is another story…
Have fun,
Novize
Novize,
As my busy schedule has made it difficult for me to do much FKKing this month, your updates on the world situation have been very helpful, as well as making me a bit jealous. You will be a good chap and let me know if Daniela arrives back early from her vacation, will you?
Cheers,
Dedalus (Who is looking forward to a Frankfurt FKK tour around the second week of June)
I´ll watch out for her...
Have fun,
Novize
To be honest my menory is always bad when it comes to names. I think here name was diana. It wasdefinatly not katerina as I belive she has left world for hte time being. I think diana has shorter slightly darker hair and smaller upper width.
If i remember correctly she was 27 and from moscow.
ciao
Reddog
Red dog,
The lovely slim Russian girl's name is indeed Diana- medium length wavy dark blonde hair, she was one of the passionate highlights of my last trip- 27 from Moscow and an absolutely gorgeous girl who looks like she is 17 rather than 27. A little bit toothy on the BJ, but slowing her down and asking that she use no hands slowly cures that :-) Diana was very wistful for the coming of Pascal in Russia on May 1- she looked at her watch and said- it is Pascal in Moscow right now!!!I gave her 2 music CD's for her holiday.
Ramona Romanza of Romania was another topper this Mayday trip- but I felt like I was sleeping with another man's wife (sort of) so I didn't repeat yet- but I pointed her out to almost every hobbyist I conversed and dined with this trip, and they all sessioned with her as well and we all love her.
I have not seen the new Romanian Julia for two trips now- I fell for her in December, very young light blonde hair with incredible bouncy largish perky tits, limited English, and very animated and service minded room demeanor. Constantly busy. Keep an eye out.
As the uptight and stuck up tourist and summer renter girls descend on my seaside resort home, it is great to read, through the weekly reports of Novize, Chivaz, et al that there are indeed still places where men may reject women and not vice versa. And where men may select the woman of his choice, which is much more fun than rejecting them.
I hope we can all have a healthy reunion in the last week of June to July 4.
Beffen
The seems to have been a change of guard in the Russian corner, with new faces for me. One of them has Asiatic facial features, perhaps she is from Kazakhstan. I got sidetracked and didn't investigate further. Has anyone been with them?
I'm thinking of heading out to FKK World this Thursday. Do any of you know if it's dessoustag? I hope not, it'll be the first day I can freely travel there and have nice weather. Sorry if this question's been asked before, I couldn't find an answer on their webpage, nor in the bit of snooping I did on The Forum.
Thanks
Dessous tag at FKKW is Tues. Thurs is smooth sailing through the ocean of nudity...
Dessous is Tuesday. I will probably be there on Thursday in the afternoon and evening
from last sunday.
I couldn´t make it to the anniversary party on Saturday, but on sunday afternoon I recognized 5 Starlight-Ladies girls at World:
- Ania -> http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=26
- Anita -> http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=23
- Jola -> http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=19
- Monika -> http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=27
- Viktoria -> http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=14
As far as girls are able to make plans in this business, they want to change from World to Starlight and back every week (Wednesday to Tuesday). I hope they´ll stick to their plans...
I had to great sessions with Romanza again - for god´s sake I´m immune to the marriage desease after a long and painful infection. Elsewise this women could get dangerous for me...
Her stats:
name: Ramona
origin: Romania
born: 1978
hair: black, long,
figure: slender, female, B-breast
height: 170cm
tattoos/piercings: none
other: highest recommendation for great GFE
Between these sessions I celebrated reunion with Jola. She has become much more professional (in a positive meaning) in the last six month - very good GFE, Starlight still seems to be a good "school". Recommended...
Her stats:
name: Jola
hair: artificially blonde, shoulder-length
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slim, A/B-breast
origin: Poland
born: 1982
tattoos/piercings: none
service: very good GFE
other: pictures can be found at: http://www.starlight-ladies.de/ladies_detail.php?id=19
I will be back at World for further inverstigations next sunday.
Have fun,
Novize
Just a friendly announcement, our Ramona is 170cm (w/out shoes). As always, I had great sessions w/ her 2 weeks ago. Don't worry guy, I did not tell her anything about our Forum. I just told her, friend of mine say she is about 165cm, she kindly correctly me, no, is 170cm.
BTW, Ramona is going back home for holiday starting next month (July), so what are we waiting for.
Take care,
World had its two year party and I was there (along with one or two other men). I missed Novize since he was going to sell the car for me when I won it :-)
The stories about last year’s party were apocryphal and apocalyptic so I had been determined to avoid this year’s. I saw no point in queuing for rooms and seeing people have sex in the showers and the corridors (although on reflection that could have been an attraction)
However, as I was missing Cordelia, I arrived about 13.00 – (several hours later than some customers who then stayed until past 2.30 a.m.!!). The temperature was around 34 degrees so sweat and showers was a common feature throughout the day.
There must have been about 100 girls. All girls were supposed to be doing a double shift - more or less. Several regulars were missing. I guess some because their papers had run out, some because they didn’t like the big parties, some because they were on holiday, some because of the hazards of the profession, and so on. The only thing missing was sufficient men. There were quite a lot but even by 5 o clock there were many girls who had not had one room so far as I could see and many who had given up even trying. Most men were expecting a long night so were in no hurry. And there were always the oddities - the man making lascivious faces after a service girl when he had the choice of 100 naked women
Cordelia was having a moderately good day but I managed to catch her and to give her a foot massage (walking around in platforms all day apparently plays havoc with feet) and to have a little alfresco early afternoon sex. She had got ecstatic compliments from her previous customer so was pleased. When I had finished and she went off again she was immediately swept off by another repeat customer. So I had to thiink of something to do…
……. I ate some of the exquisite (!) food. Several men complimented the chefs on the food – I am glad they were happy, since I could in no way fathom the attractions of potato salad out of giant tins and the attractions of sausage are also beyond me
Several girls said this was their first day. One girl who said this was her first day in the business was certainly not telling the truth – I had seen her before. I guess they think that as I am English I don’t know what is going on. So I made sure I didn’t go with her.
I spent the afternoon doing very little, just watching what was going on. There were some girls who were busy and there were some people having sex on the grass from time to time (the coolest place since the House and the cabins were sweltering).
By teatime I was getting a bit desperate. The girls came in all shapes and sizes but really taken as a whole were less attractive than normal (one man said he had never seen so many ugly girls – which was perhaps rather unfair of him). Obviously they had all been pulled in on the expectation of the huge numbers of men. I was even thinking of going with girls who I had on previous visits to World not considered. But I continued waiting – looking to find a girl who seemed likely to be out of the ordinary. After all why pay 50euros for only an average experience – I want at least body and soul for my 50 euros (or at least a glimpse)
Early evening I noticed one girl who in my dazed overheated state I decided was the most attractive working girl I had ever seen. However she was a bit difficult to get at since she and a couple of others were with their male escort on their first day at the club (on this occasion they were telling the truth). But I managed to get her since the ratio of men looking for girls compared to the number of girls available still favoured the men. I think the working girls must generally have been a bit disappointed, but some girls were busy still – Betty was continually working – I think all her regulars had turned up and she was radiant with cheerfulness
Back to my new discovery (how to make fame as a monger…post about a new discovery and world class sensation). The name of this new star in the World firmament (ok, yes, I am taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of myself) is Juliet, Bulgarian, slim, black straight long hair, 21. The session started with what was probably her stock comment – I was her Romeo. To which I said rubbish and that as Romeo and Juliet had both died violently I wanted nothing to do with them. I had a very enjoyable hour with her conversing in broken English, French and German (and Bulgarian – I now know two nice Bulgarian phrases). As always I will not give any personal details but will just say that she seemed to enjoy sex and we were able to pass the rest of the time conversing. Unusually for a first time with a girl I extended the time to one hour. And later in the evening tried to find time for another session but this did not work out.
It was getting quite crowded but nothing like expected. I was trying to get to Cordelia but by now several more of her regulars had arrived and she was trying to find them again in the darkness and crowd. With little success
Around 11.15 Cordelia emerged from a room so I grabbed her. But this is where the unexpected happened. There was nobody going to rooms between 11.00 and well past 1.00. This was because of a programme of fireworks (which were really very good) Samba dancing and the raffle for the car. This all took two hours and all the men were waiting for the prizes to be won. It was really boring – especially as about 10 tickets had to be called for some of the prizes since the ticket owners were not there on the night. At about 1.00 the prizegiving was finished and one happy man now owns the car. The indoor food was then opened and disappeared within 30 minutes as everybody who had been putting off eating and having sex for hours suddenly found they needed to eat first. The men then started going to rooms with girls in larger numbers as they were running out of time to spend their 50Euros, By this time I had had enough and left
The prizes were given out by Sybille Rauch and Tina Angel, two very large breasted German pornstars who have been around since I was in short trousers (or so it seems). They had been around most of the day. To my astonishment they were both much better looking in real life than in films. And they both seemed very relaxed and friendly to everybody. They were looked after by the World staff and the boss. One weird thing was that the men could queue and go to a private room to feel the breasts of the pornstars – about 15 men did.
World worked really hard on the party but didn’t get it quite right. For example, there had been a whole evening of stripping, hosted by a transvestite (I thought I had escaped such things by avoiding bi-night at Beverly). I like to know that my women are really women – why would customers at World want a man dressed up as a woman? Overall the shows were not a help to a good night - they made the main room useless for picking up girls and as the evening wore on the audience was mainly the girls who were waiting for the show to finish so the men would return (most men left the room after the first few shows) lost interest in doing anything,. In addition the show was surpassed by some showing off by a couple of girls pretending lesbian sex, one of whom danced better than all the professionals. Very sexy.
The shows gave me food for thought - the samba dancers were not attractive but some men said they were unbelievably goodlooking. It could be a question of taste but I think it was a question of the image. Our perception of a girl is perhaps more a reaction to an image, a fantasy than to a reality. We buy the Optikfick and not the genuine experience in a room perhaps?
World really tried its best to put on a good party. The presence of Cordelia and Juliet made it a memorable day. Every day at World is unpredictable:it's still the club where it's easiest to relax for a long day - and large enough to get right away in to the trees and quiet. So I'll be back
I would have been happy to sell the car for you - you could have earned 5 Romanians with it at least. And I could have had much fun with my 20% commission... ;)
Unfortunately I had to do prepare for a meeting that was scheduled for monday at short hand.
I didn´t recognize your Juliet on sunday, but there were many new girls. But I´ll keep my eyes open. I hope I will still have a chance to meet her, although a recommendation written by you will be a guarantee for her to World-stardom. :)
I´m glad you plan to come back - and I hope we can meet then.
Have fun,
Novize
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