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Whitey2
02-27-06, 15:17
Wan King says: Is there free beer available at world??

Hi, Fred. Never been to World, right? Must've been somebody else I saw there back in December! You may not know this, but all beer everywhere (exceptions: North Korea, Iran, and Arkansas) has been free ever since the League of Nations proclaimed the Universal Free Beer Mandate in 1946, shortly after the end of WWII. Since then, all monetary values posted next to names of beers in bars, restaurants, nightclubs, cathouses, etc. have merely been "suggested gratuities." So, for all of your life you could have been drinking beers for oh, say, a nickel each.

And that's the truth.

Wanking
02-27-06, 21:47
Whitey,

I only asked cos its free in GT and some other FKK clubs. Also I thought someone posted something about free light beer being available on certain days in World a while ago.

Beer is something that I miss when I visit Palace, and I would love nothing better than a few cold ones after sex.

Rain City
02-28-06, 07:24
After my not inspiring trip to FKKW, I went to Palace and had a nice time. I was talking with one of the local guys there, and he told me that the German discussion forum he subscribes to said that not many girls in World for last 30 days or so. Can anyone confirm that? The quality and quantity of the girls I saw last weekend was not what it used to be (at least compare to my past experience there).

Getting back to the subject of Maria we discussed before, like Mike, I should have complained to the management. But I am sure that none of the ISGer will ever have a session with her from now on. So, after all, she won't have much time left at FKKW. She should work at a place like RLD. Cheap, fast and low quality sex. I kind of got a bad vibe from her, although she was friendly. I really should have listened to my large head, not the small one...

Mike De H
02-28-06, 09:54
Whitey,

I only asked cos its free in GT and some other FKK clubs. Also I thought someone posted something about free light beer being available on certain days in World a while ago.

Beer is something that I miss when I visit Palace, and I would love nothing better than a few cold ones after sex.

They give out tokens at World, for beer, which costs four euros, and they only takeTwo Euro coins and notes (no small stuff).

Once in the Summer, as a promotion they gave two free tickets with the entrance fee as a promotion, but I only saw it once.

Tickets for shorts are eight Euros. The quality of the beer is fairly poor.

Dedalus
02-28-06, 12:23
Dedalus: "flibbertigibbet"?


Whitey, my man, check out "the Sound of Music"

Cheers,

Dedalus

Ramopal
03-01-06, 05:06
The prejudice against the Latvians derives from the bad reputation of Inessa in this forum. So I was very reluctant when Karina tried to seduce me. But she was attractive and charming and I surrendered. And I do not regret. She was very friendly, not hurrying and she performed all what we agreed and even more. Her native language is Russian. Her English is extraordinary as well as her German. But there are no skills in Latvian. However she insists on being from Riga. It is the same with all of the 'Latvians'. They are all Russians. It reminds me to the increasing group of Lithuanians which disappeared about ten days ago. They all spoke Russian, didn't know any word Lithuanian and didn't like conversations about 'their' country. This does not matter because they did a good job and I miss particularly two of them: Eva and Liane.

The exodus of the 'Lithuanians' lead to a shortage of girls. The situation has not much improved by the reappearance of some wellknown Romanians as for example Hanna and Dalia. They kept their old attitude. They are are sitting around, smoking and talking to each other but not attentive for any customer.

I also found a real Latvian. Martina, 26, small and blond. She claims never having worked in Germany before and never having done this job before. I spoke German to her because her skills are quite fair. They are even amazing related to a girl which works in a small town store and had learnt German only in school.

Her attitude is not professional. She is not enthusiastic but friendly and obliging. She tries to do a good job and therefore she does. I went with her twice and had two happy hours. Definitely I will repeat if I get the chance. But this is questionable because she is probably just a holiday-maker.

Ramopal

Marlow
03-01-06, 13:10
Can anyone explain to me why it is that you anglo-saxons are so keen on alcohol -namely beer - in a sex club??? Am I missing something here or isn't the real point of a sex club, er, sex? And the last thing a girl wants is a boozy, beer stinking hulk, belching loudly at orgasm. Hey, I'm just old fashioned maybe and don't see the blindingly obvious reasons why there must be beer on tap as well as women before you dudes will enter a club.

German club owners has non-alcoholic drinks as a general rule (not all of them) because they don't want the sight of unconscious guests having to be assissted to a taxi. And from the girl's point of view a no-show in the room. I saw this at Bernd's once with a Japanese guest. He arrived on three legs and departed horizontally. One of my best non-sex memories in a club.

In the UK at a so-called exclusive swingerclub they serve alcohol and are paranoid about keeping out saturday night pub lads (with a couple of bouncers) yet suggest they wouldn't have the problem if they didn't serve booze and a look of disbelief comes over the owners' faces. Well booze and bonking both begin with B I suppose!

Whitey2
03-01-06, 20:39
Oh, THAT "flibbertigibbet." Of course, what was I thinking? Good to hear from you again, dude. Hope all is well. I still envy your "expat" status of living and working right there in the FKK Promised Land. If I could find a job over there anywhere similar to what I have here in the Land of the Deprived, I'd go there like a shot.

Next time you pop into one of the FKK's for a visit (probably just a few days from now, right?) take a moment of silence to remember the vast majority of us mongers who must travel 4000+ miles on rare occasions to get a chance to do for a few days what you can do whenever you want with just a leisurely short drive.

Of course, knowing how mongers generally behave, maybe the drive is only 'leisurely' on the way BACK from the FKK.

Cheers also!
Whitey

Ramopal
03-02-06, 01:38
The name of the Latvian girl is Marita, not Martina. She keeps away from the Russian 'Latvians'.

Dreams
03-02-06, 11:12
Can't agree more with M,

Never understood those who need to get drunk at a sex club. Why don't thsy go to a pub for that? Drinking too much impairs your sexual performances and spoil sexual pleasure.. But I guess, tolerance means to accept everyone's habits. So as long as the drunks don't create problems, fine with me.

Marlow
03-02-06, 17:25
Yes, smug to the point of indecency. I know we have it good here and should humbly remember that we are not worthy of the succulent peaches that slink passed our towelled tumescence. That, as we flip-flop our way to the appointed boudoir bearing a lecherous smirk clutching the knotted towel, raise your beer and cheer us on!

Mike De H
03-02-06, 19:49
Can anyone explain to me why it is that you anglo-saxons are so keen on alcohol -namely beer - in a sex club??? Am I missing something here or isn't the real point of a sex club, er, sex?

I remember a rugby club president telling me once (after admiring a young filly)... "Do you know how we can spot a homosexual in a Rugby club young man?" "No, I said". "Its the one who prefers women to beer" he replied.

You see Beer and sex and chips and gravy are the holy trinity. FKK clubs for me, now have to start to serve draught ale (preferably Boddingtons) and put chips (fries), black pudding and meat and potato pies on the menue on a nice thick beef gravy with salt and vinegar.

That way you see, you get all of ones desires on one place, because one can not bonk all the time and needs recouperation time. I mean, you could criticise them for having a Sauna for instance, on the basis that you dont have sex in a sauna right?

Alcohol and sex are absolutely inextricably linked. One would often say "hey, you need to get laid more often" but in this case its patently not true, so i would say "hey, you need to get pissed more often".

Excuse me whilst I have an orgasm and try and time it with my drunken belch. Never done it... sounds fun.

Henio
03-02-06, 21:06
Hi Mike,

I agree that sometimes it would be nice to have a beer or two at the FKKs, but English cuisine, oh man oh man, the quality of the food at the FKKs is bad enough already ;-)

One of the things that attracks many girls to the working environment of the FKKs vs. other venues for same kind of work, is that they usually do not have to deal with drunk guys. There are of course exceptions (I was drunk at my first visit to FKK).

Chivaz

Mike De H
03-03-06, 00:21
Hi Mike,
One of the things that attracks many girls to the working environment of the FKKs vs. other venues for same kind of work, is that they usually do not have to deal with drunk guys. There are of course exceptionsChivaz

Did you see the ballad of the drunk and Fed? Written in the style of Rupert The Bear, based on events of last weekend...Reposted below...

It was 9pm one Saturday evening
And all the boys sat round the table
We were drinking champagne, had started yawning
We’d had as much as we were able.

Fred came by he’d lost his seat
And so he had to stand
Then along came this drunken guy
Who’d come from the Ger-man’s land

Rupert thought, “this mans a jerk”
And kept his bear-mouth shut
But Fritz had spotted Fred alone
And thought “I like this ****”.

So Daedelus did try his spiel
But all to no avail
Our drunken friend could barely stand
And Fusco started to wail:

“Bouncer please, we don’t need this”
But none were there to be found
This guy had surely been on the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)
But his amorous instincts were sound.

Fuckmeister Fred was in the way
Wrong place, wrong time, and so sexy
Our friend was definitely in the mood to play
Although Fred was getting tetchy.

Their eyes met from afar
He was really tall and gorgeous
His hand he ran it in Fred’s hair
But Freddie was acting cautious

But our friend’s “Freddie” gave the green light
And his two cousins twitched
But the only thing of Fred’s that went
Was his sphincter – he wasn’t bewitched

Rupert said “hey now Fred”
You know how to get rid!
Give two CD’s and a chocolate” he said
Then under the table he hid.

Someone said “try a Gucci watch”
“And he’ll be yours in a tick!”
But Fred was past the point of listening
As our friend was nearly sick.

But Fred he was not quite so brave
He really was in shock.
The barmaid came and removed the drunk
In a Teutonic-style arm-lock.

Our heroine, the Metal Maid
With musical exquisite taste
Had no time for such bad manners
He was ejected with all due haste

Our other drunk who cornered Fusco
And freeloaded on Champaign
Was next to see the metaphoric door
And suffer some mild pain

But that’s another story now
And not for Rupert Bear
Who kept so quiet like good bears do
No drunkards in his hair.

Marlow
03-04-06, 13:58
This is going too far. North country fare in a German FKK club! Don't do it! The Germans will retaliate with saurkraut, inedible white sausages, strange chunks of pig with hoof attached, curry wurst. I am feeling ill already.

German cuisine, like French rock star, is an oxymoron.

Now back to the real business: girls.

Checkmate
03-05-06, 02:43
Maria, FKK WORLD. Romania, 21, red hair, looks 8.5. She was very honest about her services. Not a clock watcher. We finished about 10 minutes early but said she should say until the 30 minutes is up. Everything was offered, and always opt for the standard service. When I asked her if like sex, and her response was YES. To a certain point. Getting f*ck all day isn't a good thing some men just keeps of f*cking and she has to do it because it was her job and the was good money.

Looks, 7
Attitude, 7
Performance, 10
Recommended, Yes

Dedalus
03-06-06, 09:58
Fasching’s Party Weekend at World: Saturday, Feb. 18

Day One

After a long morning of work I was looking forward to my first 2006 reunion with the various board members at FKKWorld. Glowing reports and a glimpse of the new talent during Super Bowl Sunday made the journey to Pohlheim that much more exhilarating. Both Fred, Ortos and Beffen had done some good recon work and their glowing reports helped inspire my tired and overworked bone to make the trip. “Work hard, play hard” is not a bad rule to live by.

There was a bulging parking lot at World with only a few spots left. It would seem that the dearth of male guests at World was at an end. Inside, the ladies were doing their best, costume-wise to celebrate the spirit of carnival. Present were sexy security ladies, cowgirls, Indians, army commandos, princesses, policewomen, pirates, angels, devils, she-vampires, witches, butterflies, ladies in lingerie, schoolgirls in bobby socks and a couple of wild animals. A few went a bit overboard and forgot that being scantily-clad is a plus when plying the love trade. Case in point: Martina from Hungary has a pretty smoking body. Why she would choose to hide it in a she-wizard’s outfit is beyond me. I hope that it did not negatively influence her business.

The gang was all there and I ran in to the Ignatz/ISG crowd in due course, even getting to know a few new (for me at least) members. It was great to make everyone’s acquaintance and get a few new perspectives on the World/Palace/Oase-scene. There were so many attractive numbers to be seen that I was grateful to hear everyone’s take on the ladies. I did my best to take attendance before spotting my first session:

-Edith was looking super hot in her police outfit. I was seriously considering a number of law infractions.

-Daniela in her evening dress was an attractive sight.

-The new arrival Gabriella, who is a total man eater-upper looked like a dangerous predator in her feline outfit.

-Nadia was a convincing looking cowgirl.

-Jacqueline looked completely angelic in her winged outfit. Who knew that angels could have such long, sexy legs?

-the doe-eyed beauty from Russia, Katharina was wearing a simple white little nothing that did her outstanding figure little justice.

-Katharina’s country women Olga was looking better (MUCH BETTER) than I had remembered.

-Another sexy police officer who I later heard referred to as Rachel was looking both positively delightful and dangerous.
-A new girl who I would later find out is Tina (Germany) had quite the sexy, come-hither aura.

Taking attendance was enjoyable but had to be cut short after cornering a favorite, sexy blond that I have known for some time. Name? Firstly it has changed so often that who knows what it will be next week. Second, she works pretty infrequently so one has to have a bit of luck to catch her. Thirdly, she hates to be written about. My good friends who were there that evening know who I am talking about. Euro100, if you are out there, then you know of whom I write. No one seems to be 100% sure where she comes from. I have my suspicions, but it really does not matter. I will say that she is a drop-dead sexy blond with a stunning figure, who delivers amazing service every time. This evening was no exception and her choice to continue to wear a tiny part of that scant little costume she was gallivanting around in was a good choice. She sometimes gives a distance impression outside of the room, but she is a Traumfrau behind closed doors and seems to really enjoy her work. She performs a masterful blowjob and just will not let you take your tongue or finger away from her clit. Euro, if you are out there, you have great taste in blondes.

After my steamy session with this blonde wonder, and after what was already a long work and travel day, I knew that I would need an extended pause before my next session. This would give me some time to catch up with the other gents and watch Sir Fred run about, grabbing what seemed to be every gorgeous lady around and dashing off to the room. Where do you get the energy, man?

Hangin’ with the club VIPs has several advantages aside from the warm camaraderie. On party days the champagne flows like Niagara and no one could accuse these VIPs of being stingy. Although I wonder about Fusco’s motives when he broke my glass ;-))))

It has been stated that I slyly took advantage of a situation by parking my butt next to Jacqueline and her wings while Fred, after filling her glass more than once, vacated his spot for a mere instant. Now boys, I ask you, would Dedalus do such a vile thing?
The truth be told, Fred is such a generous gentleman and furthermore he knows the high regard that I hold for the lovely Jacqueline and her leggy charms. After receiving a circumspect cue from Frederick I decided that Jacqueline would be my next conquest.

Unfortunately for him, when I hopped into his vacated seat, upon his return he was set upon by a guest who was more in his cups than any male guest that I have ever seen at an FKK. Enough of you have at length waxed poetically on this episode that I doubt that it is essential for me to engage in much elaboration. I will say that I felt bad enough for him (Fred, that is) that I did try to give back him his seat. I even made a fruitless attempt to distract the drunken sod and engage him in a bit of discourse, which was no easy task given his condition. I am not sure how much the poor rummy had consumed at that point, but it must have been quite a bit to make him ignore Jacqueline and the 3 or so other lovelies who were congregated at the bar, and only concentrate on Fred. (No offense meant toward your charming ways, Fred!)

The situation resolved itself and soon afterwards, Jacqueline and I went in search of a more private place for some nookie. Yeah, I was a little guilt ridden, but I was counting on her to help me through it. Finding a spot was pretty difficult at that point so we went to the Kino to wait in line and perhaps do a little warm-up. Whilst waiting for a room, we commenced to get frisky on one of the new Kino beds. Ms. Jackie’s bbbj is a treat!!! The others around us were ogling with envy and I do not blame them. Such is usually the case when sporting around in the open with a stone beauty in the Kino on a crowded night.

A room did become open and Miss J. led me to it, although it would not have bothered me to continue where we were. I didn’t get the impression that she was into a public performance. If truth be told, Jacqueline was a bit off her normal, stupendous game as she was a bit tired and I am not sure that all of Fred’s champagne was helping at that point. Still, she is a delight and she gave it her all. Even a grade B session with her is better than most. I usually catch a classy PSE with her but she was a little more GFE-like on this night. I am always up for variety ;-))

name: Jacqueline
hair: Blonde
size: ~ 1,85 m (probably taller)
figure: slender, B great figure!, Legs for days!
origin: Poland
born: ~ 1983?
tattoos/piercing: Long spinal tattoo
service: bbbj, PSE-GFE
location: FKK World.

The keen-eyed Ortos had pointed out to me earlier in the evening that the Romanian tornado, Daniela was around. Daniela is a favorite of mine. Despite her delights and dangers, I am usually like a moth to a flame when she is around. I had every intention of trying someone new that evening and giving her a pass. No easy decision for me. I thought that I was doing pretty well and I figured that with such a busy night and since I was spending a good deal of time shooting the breeze with the Ignatz/ISG boys at the cocktail bar, all seemed to be going according to plan. I had the new and lovely Gabriella, Olga, or Edith in my future plans and was enjoying the mood of the cocktail area while trying to get a second wind.

Then she appeared.

Daniela, despite the extra few pounds that she has put on, still looks pretty darn good and her “Abendkleid” did a super job of highlighting her curves. She fixed her gaze on me and started to saunter over to where we were all sitting. I asked her to have a seat, thinking that I might give myself a chance to change my mind. No such luck. She started to whisper some pretty filthy things in my ear which immediately resulted in a vitamin-enriched woody, so off we went.

I am not sure if there was a free room or not but she drug me straight to the mattress closest to the screen in the Kino. As it turned out, this was the only area of the Kino that was not being used. I noticed three couples and a threesome engaged in coital bliss. Very orgy-like.

We spread out towels and then got down to business. I am sure that many had gone before me that night but Daniela was not in the least fatigued. She literally attacked my mouth with hers before we even had a chance to get horizontal, all the while moaning things like “I need you to fuck me” and “I wait for this all night” and other choice Daniela/porno sayings. I finally got her to slow down enough for me to help her shimmy out of her dress. More kissing and more dirty talk. She was a little less vocal during her blow-job but she did make some pretty loud slurping noises. If you do an “open” session with her, then you just have to accept that some loud sex noises will transpire and that she will do some writhing and moaning which will draw some attention. Some guys decided to sit next to us while we were engaged in 69 and one jagoff made a grab for Daniela’s ass at one point. She pushed his hand away, said something insulting to them and continued on with her “blasen”. The guys got a good laugh and I think that I heard one of them say to me “ich beneide dich, junge” or something similar as they moved away. She pulled me on top of her and continued her sex talk. I am giving this girl this high-hard one, she has her legs wrapped around me, is grabbing my hair and in between spit swapping she is telling me things like “I have to have this”, “It is incredible the way you fuck.” “Those idiots could never make me feel this way”, “Go slower, yes that’s it.” “Please don’t come. I need you to make me have orgasmus.” Etc, etc, etc. Is it a mind game? Undoubtedly. Is it a turn on? Absolutely! After her “orgasmus” she rode me cowgirl-style until I reached mine.

Afterwards we did a little petty, talking and smoking. I am sure that many of us could get together and write some interesting essays about the psychology of Daniela. She is a trip and as Chivaz has stated, “an emotional roller-coaster.” Certainly not for the weak of heart or mind.

name: Daniela
hair: Brown with some blond tints, curly, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: B/C Breasts (nicely enhanced), a little meatier than last year
origin: Romanian
born: ~ 1981?
tattoos/piercing: tribal tattoo on her lower back
service: bbbj, DFK, PSE-GFE Very wild :-)
other: It has been said; “You don’t fuck Daniela, she fucks you.
location: FKK World.

This session would do me in for that evening. I still held out hopes to catch one of the others on my list but my regeneration nap lasted longer than I expected. And, I was pretty spermed-out in any case. Best to save my energies for the next day.

Conclusion: This was one of the better and more fun FKK parties that I have been to. World is large enough to handle many guests and they celebrate with gusto. The presence of many fellow girls-chasers was a nice plus. Fred’s run-in with the lusty drunk is the stuff of legends and Mike D’s lessons in locution lessons were enjoyable and enlightening. (I will work on those accents, my friend.) Hearing Beffen’s and another gent’s story of getting a scam attempt from the same girl was also quite a hoot.
I did not try any new birds but got some good names for future visits. World is definitely worth exploring at the moment.

Cheers lads,

Dedalus

Optimist
03-06-06, 12:15
The second day I arrived much later – around 4.00 in the afternoon. In the morning I had the choice of visiting another club, but instead decided to spend a second morning with a friend who I had met through the club. I had a great time with her and thought to myself - this is much better than going to the club. Just to avoid any confusion this is strictly a do the shopping, talk about life friend (no sex)

So when I got to the club I was thinking what is the point of going here? Amazing how quickly I forget the attractions of seeing up to 50 naked women walking around.

Fred was there along with two other mongers. So there was conversation – some short some long.

Now Yvette found me again. I had been looking for a girl I had seen the previous day but didn’t see her where I felt comfortable about picking her up (she was in the company of Irina/used to be Mona? who I avoid). She gave me greetings from the Czech Katharina who I liked very much but who has not been there at the same time as me since December (they tend to know me as "Andrea's Englishman"). (Which reminds me - the girls usually tell the worker concerned if one of their regular clients turns up)

Patterns seem to emerge. Seem to have a liking for Czech girls (apart from the horrific emotionally and mentally disconnected Jennifer who was there last year and gave me one of the worst sessions anywhere)

So Yvette triumphed and we spent a long session in a room. The previous day she had made a joke that I would have to walk round Prague to look for the long gone worker – I told her that Cordelia and I had already been to Prague on holiday with our scouting glasses on!. The session was as good as the previous ones - and I wanted to keep her friendly

The next few hours were spent observing – primarily the 100% sexy figure of Helga/Christine/Soraya .(she keeps using different names – currently Soraya). Black hair, slim, tight bum, indentation at top of (right?) thigh. Speaks decent English. I have been with her two times before and vowed never again because it is requires a lot of skill to get 30 minutes out of her. If you observe her you will see that she rarely takes more than 15 minutes. For this reason she gets few repeats. But she is excellent at picking up. Against my better judgement I went with her (as payment for my pleasure in her walking around naked all day). I got of to a good start by remembering all she had told me about herself on a previous occasion. I managed to get about 27 minutes so I felt reasonably pleased. She does not kiss.

Cordelia was still busy so I had the opportunity to try another session. Hannah was still around but still very unapproachable. And then she spent a long time at the downstairs bar with a man – either she had found a friend or money. Either way it is nice for her.

The number of women was thinning out considerably. Soraya changed in to cowboy boots and did several dances to Jo Le Taxi (remix) by Vanessa Paradis (and definitely not in my paltry defence of French rock). And I sat there thinking of her pussy muscles (which are equal to the most developed in the civilised world and rank with those of Cordelia, and Jacky – the latter being an occasional worker at Atlantis). And her perfect ass tipped upwards towards me. So I had the enjoyment of totally surprising her and asking for a second session. Which was as good as the first – but I lost my concentration and only got about 23 minutes. So – hard as nails professional but physically excellent, and just a little chink in her armour when she wished me a happy life as we parted – not her normal style. She sees sex at the club as a purely physical thing – which is good for her head but means she is not going to be to everyone’s taste. But there were glimpses - she told me she was sad about soemthing and liked working at the club.

As it was now 03.00 I really had very little energy left. Twelve hours in the club was unusually long for me - I even managed to astonish Fred

On Sunday I left to go home but at 9.50 went to the club briefly and met Novize outside on his way to work for Monday, which is a very long journey as it was via World. Greeting to Novize on his resurrection

The club had a really good feel about it. There were enough men to keep the girls happy, but not so many that the girls who were rip-off merchants predominated. I would say that the club is a good as it has ever been. But of course that depends on what sort of girls you like. Despite the seveal girls with enhanced breasts the overall look is natural - no American pornstar style. Most of the girls look like ones you would not notice in the street - in other words - they look like ordinary people in the main

Optimist
03-06-06, 12:23
I was in Giessen for three days and went to World for two. The other day was a write off as the snow fell and after an hour in a traffic jam I gave up. And also I could not face the idea of being the only man at World

The first day was a Thursday and it was very quiet. The weather was already causing problems and a couple of expected isg members didn’t make it

The club seemed to have picked itself off the mortuary floor and be gently breathing, despite the chill and the icy trees with their freezing fingers outside. Much better than my last visit a month ago – which was so dismal I did not even report on it

The food was much as it always is. I never understand why the German guests at World make jokes about English food. Overcooked and/or pickled veg disappeared in England years ago but still live on in the Republic of the Wurst. I would die for a curry, a stirfry or a casserole at World. As it is the rolls are good. But who cares about cuisine when the staff are so welcoming (apart from one or two nameless ones)

Make no mistake – I do not denigrate the country which produces FKK. After all it can clear the roads of ice and snow like magic. In England we are so tightfisted we leave most roads to the grip of ice.

In passing I was told by one German man that he had recently been accused of being a Nazi simply because he was German. How long the wounds of a war 60 years over last. That is why I am being clear that my horror at the food is not any denigration of Germany

I cannot give more detail as so many people at World know me. I went to a room and almost the first thing the girl asked was what I had posted about her from my last visit! And guests sometimes come to me and say “are you Shiatsu”. So my post is tempered with discretion. As for valour – that’s just living.

Back to the subject of women Every time I go to World I wonder what it is that I am searching for. Somewhere between the perfect ass and the meaning of life. On this visit I found both (but then I already know what I think the answers might be – but not 42 thanks Douglas Adams)

On my first day I was approached by Yvette. Now she has been there for two years, comes from the Czech Republic, Prague and I had avoided her. Last time I had been there she had come up to me and given me some information about a mutual friend. This time she gave me greetings and reassured me that my old World companion was well. Now I figured that any girl who is nice to me after having been spurned for two years must either have a good heart or a rhinocerous hide (or a good marketing strategy). So unbelievably I went to a room with her. Now, if I describe her, regulars will know her – about 1.70, chocolate brown tanned skin, a little generous in her proportions, rust dyed hair, and most days she is discreetly quite busy. I soon found out why. I had planned to go to the room only to talk more about my old money vacuum cleaner friend, and to repay Yvette’s kindness with 50 euros.

Yvette soon decided she had better ideas. The net result was that we bot henjoyed ourselves. At the end of the very long session she awarded me the title of Profi licker She definitely enjoys sex and the income. I can recommend her very highly – but remember that she is not the normal isg type of favourite! Especially as her English is limited

I then spent a few hours looking around as Cordelia was busy. About half the girls there refuse to go with me as they are friends with Cordelia (even Yvette had to check that it was ok). The verboten list is long – Betty, Magda, Anka, Edith, Steffi, Jacky, Daniella, Joy, Raquel, Stella, Camilla und so weiter. Some really disapprove strongly of me being there – but I don’t let them make their problem mine. The closest I get to Steffi was her poking my stomach and wagging her finger at me (but only if I am next to Cordelia)- still, it's nice to get the attention.... Betty gave me a delightful welcome and is always very nice to me. Camilla is always very pleasant - on my last trip I recommended her to two mongers - both of whom came away very happy

I reflected on which of the remaining girls I might go with.I tend to avoid Russians after some very bad experiences – unless they give off a good feeling. So after excluding the larger girls that left me with little choice. Hannah (the Hungarian Rumanian) was there again for a short time but was cold as the artic as I had not been with her the last few times our paths crossed. I would have gone with her if she had an inkling of a thaw – after all I had previously been with her on five occasions and she had the distinction of failing to make me come four times! Now that had to be worth a revisit…

I was interested in one or two others but I was told they were to be avoided. So who did I end up with for a second lengthy session? – Yvette. And the second session turned out even better than the first. And just as long

Ortos
03-06-06, 12:44
Two great back to back reports from board stalwarts, Dedalus and Shiatsu! Wow, is it x-mas?

Dedalus: I was at that party as you report, and I believe you captured the flavour of the night. As I have often (too often?) written, I usually take off in the mid-evening hours of Party nights as I dislike the wait for rooms, potentially rushed service and the alcoholic air that tends to develop. So on this occassion, true to form, I cut away from World and ended the night at a more relaxed and very target-rich Palace. It was good to see you in action though, and very nice to finally figure out who this mystery blonde you and Euro100 go on about. Yes, I've seen her on a few occassions recently at World which leaves me to believe she might work there more frequently than you suspect. Funny, I never noticed her at Oase, even though I've been there on numerous visits during the time of her reign there...It was also amusing to see you dressed in a full length white robe, for a change...I always stick to the towels myself, but...

Shiatsu: Well, the weather/ice-on-roads can be a problem at rural clubs like World and Oase. That's why it's good to have an urban venue like Palace as your Plan B, sometimes...

I always enjoy your reports, full of dry humour and interesting musings. Again, I so very much sympathize with your dilemna at World; I mean, the verboted-liste so long. For the life of me, these girls are sometimes so strange, in that they will gladly go to have sex with as many guys as they can in one night, but then hold it against you if you wish to stray outside the conventional bounds of a marriage relationship with your spouse, Cordelia. I often wonder why Cordelia just doesn't show up with a bull-horn one day and stand on the centre podium and announce: "Now here this! I have absolutely no fucking problem if my little Shiatsu sticks his little Shiatsu into your little mouths or whatever...It's fine by me, in fact I want my man to have some fun with you; it's good for us!! So give the guy a break! Take his money..." Would that help????

Anyway, you are dead right about Yvette: For at least two years (longer perhaps) I have observed this darkish-skinned, gypsy looking girl (I thought she was from Slovakia, so I guess I was wrong) who, whilst not a looker in the conventional sense, I always noticed was quite popular with many regular guests. Now I now her name, thanks to you, and understand that there is substance behind my suspicions. So, yes, you are right, that those of us regular visitors will be able to recognise her from your description.

I was at World two weeks ago and I can tell you that the group of girls working there was very, very good. The club was rather well attended, but it still seemed a bit slow for the girls. My distinct impression is that the club had very much improved from its state in Oct/Nov. The food did not improve at all --except, of course, during Party night. And your comments about the food, I think, better reflects the poor state and attention to this detail at World, not necessarily across the whole BundesRepublik.

Thanks again... I hope I run into you sometime... When is your next visit?

Ortos

Optimist
03-06-06, 14:00
Ortos - Yes I must be fair- some of the best food I have ever eaten has been in Germany - despite not being a meat or dairy eater!!!! Next visit - I am not sure. I will be unable to make any visits in the second half of this year.

Cordelia has told girls it is ok - but some of them still can't handle it. They think that what they do is ok because it is business but if I do it they don't like it since it is fun. I don't buy that. I think they are just plain worried in case Cordelia gets annoyed (they almost all would cause trouble if their man did the same - apart from the one whose man comes to the club secretly). As for what they do not being fun - well, we all know that some girls have genuine orgasms frequently so I don't believe that it is not fun for them at least a bit. I think it's more that they see it like Cordelia is in the family, so therefore I am, so I am therefore "untouchable". And of course there are the ones who think, totally incorrectly, that I take Cs money. And to be honest it is quite nice in a way not to be seen by all girls as a customer

Optimist
03-06-06, 14:12
Ortos - Yvette - I am not sure if she was born in Prague. Her parentage is not Czech but a mix of two other nationalities. I, like you, would have guessed (incorrectly) Slovak. I am no expert on natrionality but I often think a lot of the Czech girls have recent gypsy or Slovak blood in them. When the Czechs evicted the German populations from the previously German areas of Czechoslovakia, they encouraged Slovak and gypsy people to move into the desolate areas - part of the general eastward movement of peoples in the late 40s

Optimist
03-06-06, 14:23
Marlow - I was sorry I missed you on Thursday - I hope you had a good time - I look forward to your report (no joking on my part). I think I arrived while you were still there

A propos your divertissement on the French chanson - As I have just been to Paris just to see a French rockstar I challenge you to a duel :-) Your weapon will be Michael Bolton. Mine will be Mylene Farmer (Johhny Hallyday is never allowed out, as even with years of maturing he is no defence against Artic Monkeys, Korn etc). I once saw a band called Oxy and the Morons....But as for French cuisine - I make no defense (US/Francais) or even defence (UK valiantly against the combined weight of America and France, the world's greatest allies))

Toscana
03-06-06, 15:45
You did very well to overcome your initial disinclination to take on Yvette. She is excellent. My knees still tremble at the memory of one hour with her, followed almost immediately by one hour with Andrea a while back. It is fine that she is around again. Thanks for the reports.

Optimist
03-06-06, 16:26
Toscana - I follow in your footsteps.... I forgot to say in my report that another of Yvette's advantages is that she is one of the very few girls (others include Daniella, Cordelia) who are more than happy to do oral etc in the main room. Some girls do a bit of fondling but not much happens in the main room.

Nick The G
03-06-06, 22:51
fasching’s party weekend at world: saturday, feb. 18
then she appeared.

daniela, despite the extra few pounds that she has put on, still looks pretty darn good and her “abendkleid” did a super job of highlighting her curves.......i was lucky to have her on this party day as the first one in the room. about 4 o'clock she came in through the dining room, heading for the women's changing rooms and came back dressed in this glittering piece of „abendkleid“.

after organising herself a coffee, she came directly back to me, took me by the hand and said, let`s go. on the way down she told me, that this bright and very tight gown would give her a big bottom, which apparently was true, nevertheless, she looked really beautiful (like last year).

she told me, that she was pretty sure that i would be here today. why, i asked her? xxx, i feel you....!

already during the week she had told me what she would be wearing on this night. so, of course i wanted to see her in her beautiful gown, i still could remember from last years faschings party.

when we were in the room, she opened with: hey, today we don’t fuck, it’s so boring to fuck every time.

o.k., i had been there before in this week.

we had a nice session for almost 2 hours, started with a very intensive and sensual long mutual body massage with a nice oil and soft kisses.

after some time she started with a sort of often reappearing theme of self definition: ”i’m a bad woman and you are a good man”.

i took my time to lick her deliciously wet pussy.

of course we fucked, i wanted it and apparently she wanted it too after the relaxing massage. it was not porn at all, not too fast but very intensive and i was full of sweat in the end. she asked me to go to the shower next door, because she would not go upstairs again with me like this.

right after, she was eager to go back upstairs, because she already had told me before, a guy from france, who had booked her for hours on this night, would be waiting upstairs for her. and what nice presents this man always would bring for her.

next time i saw her at this party was hours later, when she was standing in the wintergarten at some small table together with some guys from america. i walked up to her and asked her, if she would come with me for another session but she felt disturbed in her business, said, no, not again today. go home, please! later she told me that the americans had asked her, who was this guy, they felt, this had been not a very friendly farewell to me.

the last time i saw her was when she was taking a rest with a coffee and sitting in an arm-chair in the wintergarten, she really looked tired.

i went over to her and sat down beside her. after some words and kisses she said to me: i want to go home. i said, o.k., do it! she corrected herself and told me, no, i want you to go home now. she often ”forgets” in this way to relate to other people in her speech. she stood up, took me by the hand and escorted me to the men's changing room to my locker to be shure that i would really leave fkk-world and go home now.

i got a lot of kisses to compensate for my sacrifice!

Fkk Lover
03-07-06, 05:55
I too did the "arrive at the Fasching’s Party early and go to Palace late" double feature... we should have carpooled! but frankly I found the Palace that Saturday night to be a bit of a sausage-fest with loooooong waiting time for rooms.

Should've stayed at World, IMHO.

Optimist
03-07-06, 08:52
Excellent report Nick - perfect mix of detail and observation. One other monger has told me that D also often says to him things on the lines of "I am bad, you are good"

I found the info about how she asked you to leave very interesting - your phrase "uncomfortable in her work" was well-chosen. I once knew a slightly volatile worker who sometimes behaved in a similar way (including the "I am bad, you are good" bit) so maybe "uncomfortable in her work" applies to some other workers as well

Nick The G
03-07-06, 21:33
Excellent report Nick - perfect mix of detail and observation. One other monger has told me that D also often says to him things on the lines of "I am bad, you are good"Thanks, Shiatsu.

I finally registered here in this forum too!

Shiatsu, we met again last weekend on Saturday in Pohlheim. I walked up to you sitting on one of these leather couches and we were talking for some time on many things, including the day- and nightside of the World. And of course I talked with Cordelia too.

It was really nice to meet you two again there.

I met Daniela the first time almost two years ago in Pohlheim, and of course, initially I was fascinated by her sexual power and erotic magnetism.

Usually I don't write anything about ”Daniela” and the person behind that name. But I felt, it was/is so stereotype and somehow superficial, how most oft the guys perceive her and write about her, mainly reporting on her sex machine like ”image”, the wild, powerful and sometimes public PSE actions.

So I tried to show another facet of that ”sweet, cool and tough” (as she always says), but distrustful and very vulnerable (so I say), fascinating woman.

Actually, the first time we went to the room, it was on one of these FKK-World-Parties, already after 1 minute we got stuck in a power struggle! She said - while getting out of the high boots - with her characteristic smile, I have only 10-15 minutes time for you, there are already 3 more guys waiting outside. I prefer you to finish in my mouth because I cannot fuck anymore, I already had twenty guys. I said, I'm not interested in this, I want to fuck and 30 minutes for 50 Euros. O.k.? I don't mind the other guys, we are here in the room now, and the door is closed!
We had some heavy discussion and I was almost about to leave the room, before we came down to start more pleasant and wild things and ended by about 25 minutes!

That was not the best start and after this session I didn’t want to go with her again. A couple of weeks later though, she convinced me again, smiling at me from the distance, then coming up to me and saying, hey, today I have enough time for you! I was surprised she did remember the situation!

Mike De H
03-08-06, 01:48
Next time I saw her at this party was hours later, when she was standing in the wintergarten at some small table together with some guys from America. I walked up to her and asked her, if she would come with me for another session but she felt disturbed in her business, said, no, not again today. Go home, please! Later she told me that the americans had asked her, who was this guy, they felt, this had been not a very friendly farewell to me.


I am not sure, but I think one of those Americans was an Englishman. Its hard to remember.

Actually a strange thing happened at 4.30 am. Daniella saw us looking at her near the table, and noticed in particular, that I was admiring her. She came right over and did her near-kidnapping act.

I said to Beffen and Fusco, "If I am not back in 30 minutes, please send in a rescue party". Daniella is too much all woman for me. Frightens the life out of me (joking).

However she must have seen myred eyes and drooping stature and she actually showed some pity. she said "I am tired, its not OK, I think I do not want to go to the room."

Normally, no girl would turn down an easy 50 Euros like that. She did, because she knew I wasnt really up for it mentally.

Nice girl, underneath it all.

Optimist
03-08-06, 08:37
Nick - I did not recognise your name for this forum. Welcome. It was nice to see you again. Perhaps if I have your permision I might produce your imaginary letter (the one in English) for this forum?
It ws really good that you wrote something about the person who is D. You are right - sometimes the forum sees the girls as just bodies. As Katharina said (not very original I know but true) - each girl has her own story and life to tell. So, if you can get a story and a life and not just a pussy, then that is good

Sergeant Major
03-08-06, 10:52
Hello Guys,

I'm from Turkey and I've read the recent posts and I can't stand on my feets :)
I'll be visiting germany next week, will visit the world definetly.

On my last trip on january I've visited the palace and the oase and couldn't find what I look for since it was messe time and the palace was full of male guests. It was too crowded and smelly :(

I'll like to meet with fellow mongers and have chat but especially I want to see cortedelia. I don't know if she is always in world or she visits some times?
I'll probably be on world on next week 13-14 march. How could I recognize her? (I can't ask everybody is she is cordelia? can I? )

I believe fkk is not for only watch and fuck, actually it could be nice place to hang out and chat with fellow mongers.

All the best,

Sergeat major

Nick The G
03-08-06, 11:01
Perhaps if I have your permision I might produce your imaginary letter (the one in English) for this forum?Yes, o.k., do it!

Nick The G
03-08-06, 14:01
However she must have seen my red eyes and drooping stature and she actually showed some pity. she said "I am tired, its not OK, I think I do not want to go to the room."

Normally, no girl would turn down an easy 50 Euros like that. She did, because she knew I wasnt really up for it mentally.We can bet on who was more tired, you or her!

How can we find out? It doesn't matter at all in the first place who the woman actually is.

Let's do a simple thought experiment and maybe by that we can try an approach to understand the working conditions in FKK-Gloryland!

Mike De H, you are now in the position of an attractive young women from a non EU-country. You have almost no education, no exams, no training or longer experience in a job, you have family restrictions and responsibilities at home, you urgently need money to supply the family! And in your messy life suddenly you see one big chance! To earn a lot of money by working in a FKK-Club in that Gloryland Germany, where the streams of money flow and men are better educated and much more polite than in your home country.

And, by all means, you want to work in that special club. Yes, it has to be only this one!

Your inner environment: you very deeply mistrust in all other people, you have no friends and you have a very bad self esteem. You think something is wrong with you in general, and your sexual desires in special. You don't know and never learned how to contribute to the normal life in a society, even though you wanted it so much. You're full of anxiety and afraid of many things, so you're looking for a safe, organized and well structured working environment. You feel you need some authority person in your life to give you commands and to tell you what you have to do. Since you don't want to relate trustfully to others, you have no source of independant information on what to do. And you say to yourself, I don't need/accept advice from nobody, I know what I have to do. If I fail, I'm strong, I try again. You don't expect too much from life, you can accept and adopt to the hardest conditions, you know you can take that, and something inside of you whispers constantly you have to work very, very hard and fail a couple of times before you yourself can believe you deserve some prosperity.

The outer environment: you've heard or you know already, because of your nationality, for to work there, you have to accept some sort of ”business partner”.
This smart guy, who in your opinion and limited life experience rules over the gates to paradise, explains his business rules to you and, of course, manipulates you a bit emotionally.

He says: There’s a lot of other girls who want to work there, you know! Every day they ask. I have problems taking them all and getting them in. But,..... I know you are a top performer, a very good and persevering worker with highly sexual personal magnetism, high ambition and endurance, many guys will come especially because of you. And only because of this, I think I should give you the chance to work there. We will see how it works!

I expect you to earn 100 Euro per hour. I think this will be no problem, especially for you, you're a tough woman who knows how to use her body and who knows all the tricks. I give you one hour rest during your shift. Your shift starts at 4-5 o’clock and ends 4 or 5 o’clock in the night depending on the day of the week. It’s seven days a week as long as you stay here in Germany. O.k., it's no problem, if you want, maybe you can have one or two days free to rest or do some shopping or if you're getting ill.
It’s a fair deal, I ask you to give me 50% of what you earn based on the hours of your shift.

Now, Mike De H, you are completely clear about the business contract. And of course you want to do it, you think you have no choice! You know how much money you have to give to your ”business partner” per day. And for yourself and your family, you want to take as much money home as you can.

You start to think, why not earn more than 50 Euro per half hour, because that would be 100% your money. So you ask the guys for specials, e.g. anal, where you can earn 150 Euro per half hour. And during one shift, you virtually run from man to man, kiss/DFK them all, conduct sweet conversation, tell them the stories they want to hear and turn them on with porn words to make them feel good and horny. Invite and persuade them to spend money for ”specials”

If you do only half hour sessions, like on many parties, maybe you have to suck 18-22 cocks, get penetrated maybe 18-22 times vaginally and maybe, in addition to that, 3 to 5 times anally, if you can take that.

You feel you hardly have the time to eat and drink, because half an hour more work is an extra 50 Euro for you! And if you allow yourself to sit down you eat very quickly and restlessly. All night long, in between, you drink one coffee after the other.
4 or 5 o'clock in the morning, you leave the club, your transport to the hotel has already been carefully organized, maybe you watch television for some time and then you fall asleep 6-7 o'clock in the morning.

Between 2 and 3 o'clock in the afternoon you wake up, take a shower and get dressed, you don't have the time to eat something, and then the Taxi is already waiting again to take you back to the club for your next shift.

To endure this working regimen for a longer time, in a way you really need superhuman powers!
Or you have an unconscious inner motive to drive yourself:
to complete exhaustion,
to become crazy,
even to death.

So, after all, Mike De H, how would you feel at the end of this your shift?

I don’t want to blame anybody, at one stage all the girls, consciously or unconsciously, said ”yes” and wanted to do this job in this hard way and to have this awfull life experience. I just want to remind you all on what is going on.

Now, Mike De H, ask yourself, under what circumstances in your life would you accept such working conditions?

Actually, what did you do on this Faschings-Party night? How many rooms? (big grin)

If you would have had this workload, I don’t know how you would have been up mentally, how your body would have felt and how your eyes would have looked like then, especially when you didn't sleep very well the night before because the hotel is so noisy.

Of course there a some woman with much better working conditions too in FKK-Gloryland!

Marlow
03-08-06, 14:53
Shiatsu

Michael Bolton! you challenge me to a duel and offer me a pea-shooter! However he is the right choice if I am give those Frenchies a chance. Freddie and the Dreamers, Shakin' Stevens, Max Bygraves - are way above what the French can offer. We draw a discrete veil over Charles 'Asnovoice' (Asnavor).

Now World.

I arrived at World to be warmly greeted (again) by the dark-haired receptionist. In three years I have only been to World three times since it opened and each time she remembers who I am. This time I asked her where she remembers me from. 'Oase, ' she said. I shook my head, that was five years ago.

I walked through the curtains - it's like coming on stage, isn't it - to be more than warmly welcomed by Cordelia. I don't suffer the same lapse of memory with Cordelia as I do with the receptionist! Cordelia encased me in a whole- body hug experience. The two of us unable to keep our hands off each other somehow made it to a sofa under the bemused gaze of Lucy. The pretence at small-talk was impossible to keep up and we caved in to rampant lust.

Cordelia ia a seriously erotic woman. She has that fatal combination of grown-up intelligence and the body of a young girl. Actually I probably don't use her talents to the full measure as I think Cordelia has the capacity to surpass even Catherine the Great.

While I like FKK clubs I prefer the sexual energy and heat of several couples having sex in close proximity to each other and slithering around making up groups or twosomes as they push the envelope of what is sexually possible. Sustained sexual excitement over a two hour period - I mean without a break - causes the brain to totally switch off. I think runners call it euphoria! So clubs Like Oase or Maihof and its Black Mass game in the cellars are something else, believe me.

The majority of the couples are 'genuine' the rest have either met over the net or have a financial arrangement. So single guys don't despair.

Back to World.

After Cordelia I sat at the bar and did my Hamlet impersonation - do I or do I not do the dirty deed again and who with. It was around lunchtime and the girl count was good. Males were thin on the ground: three or four of us. I have seen up to 15 men during this time of day at World's sister club SaunaWorld. World was empty by comparison. Yet World is supposed to be the Big One.

There is something antiseptic about the contact area of World that has nothing to do with the girls. That feel of an airport about it.

But some fabulous lookers walking around. My state of indecision was ended by Lucy - short red hair and piercing in both nipples and a wide mouth - slinking over and wrapping herself around me. I remembered Lucy from sometime in the summer when we had an extremely energetic entanglement, both glistening with sweat afterwards, in one of the summerhouses.

She could remember the exact date in September - another woman who has the edge on me!

Lucy played a long slow samba on my c**k. My tongue and fingers roamed freely between her legs. Yet we couldn't quite match the first time. She naughtily laid me in the palm of her hand and watched me grow again and said 'shall we have a little longer? the decision is yours' Oh, wicked woman.

But Cordelia had exhausted me and I left World mumbling the words of King Lear ' goodbye sweet world, goodbye'

Optimist
03-08-06, 22:22
Sergeant Major - Cordelia is only an occasional visitor and will not be there when you are there

Marlow - let's call it quits, honour satisfied on all sides, otherwise we'll have the longest list of crap singers in the world

Kingwenslas
03-08-06, 23:00
Hi guys,

Yeah it was over a week ago that I went there, but I’ve been busy writing up all my other reports about my recent trek across Europe.

I arrived at about 12.30pm and things were pretty quiet. Almost immediately I noticed Edith and put her on to my “to do” list. I also noticed Betty who my fellow punter “Noskin” always goes crazy about. I didn’t recognise anyone else so decided to wait for Edith (dark haired, early 30s Hungarian, enhanced boobs).

Well I must have waited and waited all of 5 minutes but Edith had vanished and you know how it is when you arrive? You are only interested in one thing. So I allowed Betty to pick me up and break me in for the first of the day. Betty is Cuban, dark and short with a pretty face, slim body and a wonderful personality. Actually, not my type, but I always knew that one day I would have to try her out seeing as Noskin always enthuses about her, and even Betty herself always asks after him.

I must admit, it was a good session except she kept on bending my willy down whilst giving me a blowjob and this began to hurt a bit. Other than that she made all the right noises and did everything right, so I recommend her.

Later on I ran into Edith again and this time tackled her. She’s one of my favourites and I’ve already posted stuff on her so enough said.

The main person I wanted to report on was my last, a Russian girl called Olga. She is a beautiful girl in a very obvious way. A tall red-head with beautiful large boobs. I must admit she is probably a “10” in my book and therefore one to avoid, especially as she looks quite young, I would put her at 22. Over the course of the day, however, I spoke to her a little bit and began to like her playful personality. She said she came from Smolensk. She was confident, witty and fun to be with. And she wanted to have sex with me. Well, OK then, she wanted to make a bit of money out of me.

Since we were sitting on the sofa nearest the “Kino” I suggested that we start in there, but she would not have it. In the end she led me downstairs. Everything started well, it was just amazing to kiss her beautiful body and then she got on her knees and gave me the most wonderful blowjob. This was true, true heaven. I cannot emphasise enough how good this was. Then, I interrupted her and returned the favour doing some delicious DATY.

With about 10 minutes to go, she asked me what I wanted to do now and I replied that I never have one hour sessions (a white lie on my part) but that if I like someone I will come back later. She seemed to accept this and then later when I was fucking her she said that it would be a shame of rush things now, after such a great, sensuous start. So I caved in and went the whole hour, but actually I have not described the slightly manipulative way that she did this.

So, I had a positive session. I will remember this one. But I’ll also remember being manipulated into taking the whole hour. Shortly after this I got talking to a couple of great guys from Berlin and I actually recommended Olga to one of them. I added as an after-thought, “You should be on your guard as she’s a complete businesswoman.” Well, sure enough 20 minutes later I saw them walking back to the locker room area, but then they vanished for a while. What had happened is that my new friend had just wanted a blowjob to completion but Olga had moved at the last minute so that some of his cum went over her shoulder. She then demanded an extra 50 Euros and they had gone to reception to negotiate. In the end he paid.

So my advice with Olga is to wear a watch, say in advance what you want and don’t want and to be assertive. She’s definitely worth a shag, but she has to be managed.

Kingwenslas

Marlow
03-09-06, 11:36
To Shiatsu. admit defeat!

To Nick the G,

All true enough I fear, and maybe the atmosphere at World tells one that this sorry tale is generally the case. They are gorgeous but look in their eyes and there is this terrible dead gaze. The lights only come on when you talk to them.

Go to Bernd's and you will find the atmosphere totally different. This place is more like a wild house party. The place buzzes with conversation and sofa action. If you don't speak the language then Bernd's is a little intimidating but for sheer naughty fun before you even get into the room, it's the place to be.

SaunaWorld was like that for one glorious year when the owner Martin and his girlfriend Mia made the place jump. Then the cops arrived with their automatics and that was the end of that.

I would like to know what folks make of Finca Erotica in Dierdorf, opens on March 10th. It is the old SaunaWorld re-born as a spanish villa - ole, ole! Does one get awarded the ears for excellent swordsmanship?

Did I say that? wash my mouth out!

As for the half is mine the rest is yours - hmmm....sounds harsh and how do they enforce it when you pay the girl direct? The flat fee for the day is more common.

Optimist
03-09-06, 21:59
Of course there are some woman with much better working conditions too in FKK-Gloryland!
Nick - we spent some time discussing the points you made. Whilst the generality of what you say is in the right area, I am glad you added your last bit - that for some women there are better arrangements. Do not underestimate how many of the women (a significant minority) do not have business partners. And I suspect the sort of case you mention is where there is a bad business partner - the normal arrangement would be one which gives the girls good earning incentives. The hardest earning girls are often those who clearly do not have such partners. Also as Marlow says the more normal arrangement is a fixed sum for the services renedered by the business partner - hence some of the girls with business partners are the ones who spend a lot of time doing very little
As with all generalisations it is difficult to evidence - especially on a forum when one must be cirumspect. In short I feel you have focussed on the more pessimistic end of the spectrum - but it is always useful that you remind everybody that in any business there is the good and the bad
One other point is I that I am always sceptical about what girls say. It is one of the oldest tricks for unscrupulous girls to exploit clients by coming up with sob stories to get extra money and then laughing all the way to the money locker. This I definitely know has happened.

Marlow - If I am serious I will accept that French rock sucks!!. But French chanson, French pop (on a good day) and French dance should never be tarred with the same awful brush. C'est une belle journee.

Nick The G
03-10-06, 01:49
And I suspect the sort of case you mention is where there is a bad business partner - the normal arrangement would be one which gives the girls good earning incentives. ...Sounds very good, too good to be true?!
Ask yourself, as a tough businessman, if you would know, someone is dependent and urgently needs a job, would you give him a high salary?

Bad business partner, maybe. But very good instinct for business! Or bad girl? Or badly informed girl. Or bad relationship?

On the other hand, why bad? If you have this criminal mentality, if you like to earn money in this field by letting women work for you ruining their bodies and minds, it's normal. And it is the best for the women! Because, in the end they will earn much more money than in her home country. So, put succinctly, you're indeed a good boy ”helping” her! There are some of these guys who know the scene very well and of course, who are the top performing girls. And if one of these girls, due to whatever reason and because she thinks she has no other choice, by all means, needs to get back in the business again, why not ask of her as much as possible?


Also as Marlow says the more normal arrangement is a fixed sum for the services rendered by the business partner - hence some of the girls with business partners are the ones who spend a lot of time doing very little
If this is true, then there seems to be sort of a ”motivation” problem using this business approach (big grin)


One other point is I that I am always sceptical about what girls say. It is one of the oldest tricks for unscrupulous girls to exploit clients by coming up with sob stories to get extra money and then laughing all the way to the money locker. This I definitely know has happened.As long as I've been to the clubs I never payed more than for the time in the room or for the extra service offered. But I heard those stories too.

Marlow
03-10-06, 07:06
To Shiatsu:

Edith lives!

Agreed

Optimist
03-10-06, 08:40
D'accord. Et Jacques. One of my first trips to Germany was to see a German singer who does Jacques Brel - and then I found FKKs. Let my ears hear a French accented English and I am hers :-)

Marlow
03-10-06, 12:42
Shiatsu,

No such thing as language barrier in sex is there! I like Russian. I was in Kiev with a film production company and to cut a long story short a tall Ukranian I had met on the dancefloor not five minutes before (with legs to go with it and a disgracefully short gold lame skirt) was sitting on my knee. My miffed producer, a woman, asked her what her intentions were. Without batting an eyelid she replied in a sultry voice 'I want to take ***** to his room and make love to him'.
There is no answer to that - even from another woman.

Optimist
03-10-06, 18:50
To save people PMing me etc, can I just say (god, fate etc willing) I will be back from 25th March to 1 April (inclusive) except for the Thursday). I had such a fantastic time last time

Marlow - lucky girl. My words exactly when I see you - maybe next time we can have lunch together (as well:-))

Cordelia

Mike De H
03-11-06, 02:42
We can bet on who was more tired, you or her!

Mike De H, you are now in the position of an attractive young women from a non EU-country.

Please don't ever, ever lecture me on what its like to work hard, feel pressure or be in a terrible situation. You have no idea about my background or me.

I only just read your post, but I am afraid took great exception to it, even though I doubt you intended it to be as insulting as it was.

Kingwenslas
03-11-06, 13:54
Let’s face it boys, trying to find these clubs is difficult if you are unprepared. Here’s how I would describe how to get to World. Follow these directions to the letter:

Head to the motorway junction called “Gambacher Kreuz” at the corner of the A45 and the A5. This lies between Giessen and Frankfurt. If you are coming up from Frankfurt then you need do nothing when you reach it, just keep going. If you are coming from the north then you need to turn left at this junction, but the problem is, they do not let you do this. Therefore stay on the A45, go past the “Gambacher Kreuz”, get off at the next “Ausfahrt”, do a U-turn and come back up the A45 and turn right at the “Gambacher Kreuz”. By the way, “Kreuz” means “cross”, as in crossroads.

So now you are on the A5 heading north, just north of the “Gambacher Kreuz”. Look for the kilometer markers posted every ½km on the Autobahn. The exit or “Ausfahrt” you need is the next one and is sign-posted Pohlheim/Lich. The marker post will say 440 at this point.

When you come off the Autobahn, turn right to Pohlheim/Lich
Go 0.6 miles and turn left off the main road and go towards Pohlheim
Go 0.3 miles and turn right at the end, next to an Opel garage
Go 0.9 miles to a crossroads with traffic lights and turn left.
Go 0.4 miles and turn right to Garbenteich
Go another 0.4 miles and turn right to Garbenteich
Look for the FKK-World sign ahead of you in red
The road bends sharply to the left and you will go over a railroad crossing
Go 0.4 miles and turn left opposite a warehouse called “Big Boxx”
Go 100 yards and park in the second entrance as the first one is rather small.

Kingwenslas

Mike De H
03-12-06, 11:23
Let’s face it boys, trying to find these clubs is difficult if you are unprepared.

My advice is BE PREPARED.

A Tom Tom Go700 will take you to every knocking shop in Europe perfectly. It costs less than £500 pounds sterling and available online.

Best investment you can make.

Fkk Lover
03-13-06, 01:35
My advice is BE PREPARED.

A Tom Tom Go700 will take you to every knocking shop in Europe perfectly. It costs less than £500 pounds sterling and available online.

Best investment you can make.

I second that recommendation.

You can get a rent a car equipped with GPS but most of the cars only have turn by turn instructions on an LED screen with no color maps on a nice LCD like the GPS equipped cars in the US. Plus you have to input your destinations or program them into the system every time you get a different car.

In the US you can get either the Tom Tom Navigator for Palm or Pocket PC PDAs or the self-contained Tom Tom Go. Neither of them come with the European maps but you can load it by purchasing a separate Maps of Western Europe for I think about $150. I have all my clubs, hotels and other destinations saved in "Favorites" and all I have to do is turn it on, tell it where I want to go and follow it's directions. All this with voice directions and a nice big colorful route map in front of you.

I don't need no stinkin' directions! But I'd be blind as a bat without my Tom Tom. :)

Timber Tree
03-13-06, 03:16
I don't use Tom Tom Navigator, but I use (IQ 3600 ) a Garmin Navigator with USA and European maps. You can get PDA/GPS with European map for ~$600. BTW, Garmin has a few products PDA/GPS combos, you can pick which one depending on your needs. It's upfront is expensive at first, but they do give free update CDs and the update for the maps is $75 for the Europe. The best part about this unit is I can move it from car to car and use it when I travel to Europe. I never leave this unit when I travel.

I've been using a GPS this every time I visit Germany and FKK clubs and I have been very satified with my GPS purchase. No headaches and my travel to Germany has been very pleasurable. I can even make the most of my travel while in Germany.

Here's a story on how I got started with GPS and FKK.
On my first travel to Germany, it was a pain. I had a hotel reserved in Frankurt am Main, which was only 15km from the airport. I rented car and thought the I could find the place by myself. I tell you what, I was driving for 6 hours and never found my hotel and I was in Frankfurt. I actually passed the EROS and Hapbahnhof 5 times and was going in circles. Anyway, I was so tired that I stayed at the first hotel that I saw. I vowed that going to Germany to find this FKK was not worth it and it would be my last visit to this country.

Time passed by and I bought a computer and it came with GPS (no map at that time) and I don't have a clue what a GPS was back then. And when I turned it on, I don't even know what it was doing, I thought that unit was broken. I told myself that was probably it was free with purchase. Anyway, by accident I brought my GPS with me in the car, Lo and Behold, lines started to draw in my unit and started giving my Longtitute, Latitude and Altitude. I started research about Lontitude and Latitude and Europe. Lo and Behold again, I was able to find the Longtitude and Altitude of Babylon, Bernds, Sankt Augustine, Atlantis, FantasyLand, Wiago, Wildenrath, PHG and hotels. I told myself maybe I can try again and go to Germany and find the clubs again. When I was able to find the FKK clubs using the magical devices it made my travel to Germany's FKK club very pleasant. I decided invest on a GPS device, so when I travel I could enjoy getting there than getting lost. And since then I have been enjoying travel Germany's FKK and the world. Less worry getting lost, and enjoy your vacation.

The point of this it might be wise to invest on the GPS unit, it can make your travels easier and have more fun getting there than getting lost. It's been the best investment I ever made.

Round the World
03-13-06, 07:09
Good report Timber, could you post your list of FKK Lat/Long?

I'd like to add a plug for my favorite GPS program, Microsoft Streets and Trips 2006. You can find it sold with a GPS receiver or without. S&T has Northamerican maps and MS Autoroute has Western Europe. I think you can find these on the market for much less than the equivalent Delorme or Garmin maps.

As a bonus they come with free clients for the PocketPC or Smartphones.

RtW

Optimist
03-13-06, 09:26
I have some favourite electronic aids as well. But I prefer the girls. One thought - there is a new thread on travel plans which I am just about to be the first to kickstart. Sounds like a good place for future discussions on GPS?

Ortos
03-13-06, 09:32
I've been visiting FKKs with a hired car for about 4 or 5 years now. Not once have I had to use any kind of GPS system, and I've found the clubs just fine, without too many problems. What's the secret? Easy: Do your research first, then get a good map and study that before you drive. I remember the first FKK I had to drive to from central Frankfurt: Altenstadt Atlantis. I simply went to their website and printed out their directions with the rough map there. I found the B521 on the outskirts of Frankfurt and just followed the directions. No problem! Then there was Oase: I first visited by S-bahn/taxi from Bad Homburg. After that, I saw their directions in an advert and followed them. Easy.

Bottom line: If you have even a modicum of confidence, a decent sense of direction and you do your research first, no need for any kind of dependency on computorised navigation equipment.

Just my own perspective...

Mike De H
03-13-06, 10:15
[QUOTE=Ortos] If you have even a modicum of confidence, a decent sense of direction and you do your research first, no need for any kind of dependency on computorised navigation equipment. QUOTE]

I will stick to the GPS then :D

Mike De H
03-13-06, 10:19
I have some favourite electronic aids as well.

I am sure you do Shiatzi LOL

Anyway - No girlfreind, visits prostitutes, good with computers and gadgets, says it all really doesen't it?

At least I can laugh at myself.

Ortos
03-13-06, 11:37
[QUOTE=Ortos] If you have even a modicum of confidence, a decent sense of direction and you do your research first, no need for any kind of dependency on computorised navigation equipment. QUOTE]

I will stick to the GPS then :D


So Mike, which is it: Problems with your confidence or a bad sense of direction? Funny, I always viewed you as a rather confident bloke, striding the halls of World like Captain Kirk used to stroll through the Starship Enterprise, nodding at the oggling female crewmembers...

Anyway, I agree with Shiatsu that discussions about this and similar themes should be re-routed to another thread. Why not have a thread about Directions to FKKs, a subject that seems to come up on this board with annoying regularity? If there was a section that had clearly laid out driving and public transport directions to all of the major clubs, then we wouldn't have to constantly answer the same questions and, just maybe, remove the need for GPS gadgets too...

Whitey2
03-13-06, 14:29
[QUOTE=Ortos]I've been visiting FKKs with a hired car for about 4 or 5 years now. Not once have I had to use any kind of GPS system, and I've found the clubs just fine, without too many problems.


Shiatsu and I drove (he drove) from World to Oase back in December, in the broad daylight. My first time there. In a little town we encountered detour signs that pointed in two directions (only in Germany!) that would have left me out in a cow pasture somewhere had I been the only one driving. Especially at night. And I've done a fair amount of driving in Germany over the years. Fortunately Shiatsu can do it on autopilot.

Not everyone is Mark Trail. I would applaud a new forum thread devoted to directions, and I appreciate anyone who can make things easier for the rest of us, electronically or otherwise.

Nick The G
03-13-06, 23:18
O.K. you're on the road now and heading for one of these unique FKK-Wonderworlds in Germany.

There's not only danger of missing your way outside the clubs, but it can happen inside too!

The FKK-Clubs are imho not only ”dangerous” places for the men, who go there, but also for a lot of women, who come from abroad, mainly non EU-countries, and who are used to poverty or very restricted resources in their family life at home.

And then they enter into one of these clubs and encounter with this beautiful Hollywood movie-like environment! At first glance, it’s a dream! Especially when you like to meet and interact with many men in a safety guarantied environment and, of course, when you like to fuck and earn fast money!

The all-inclusive approach where you don’t have to take care about anything (except paying for the gate, going to the toilet, taking a shower and buying & using condoms of course :D) seduces them to spend most of their time per day and almost all days while in Germany there. You have a day off? Why not spend it in the club without working, have breakfest, trink coffee, spend some champagne for the other girls, and chat all night.

And this will draw them very efficiently away from the real world and from friendships and relationships with ”normal people”. Time to establish friendships? No!

As a result they will soon feel very isolated and lonesome, and after some time become emotionally hungry, the exceedingly growing longing for some stable relationship with a honest man (of course someone who doesn’t go to clubs!) is counteracted by lots of hate on and increasing mistrust in all men, their false phrases, lies and shattered relation¬ships with their relatives or wifes at home.

Unfortunately, mainly because of their bad self esteem and mistrust in themselves, some girls really need this, to be admired for what they do in the club. They like it to be, or to be called, a ”Princess” or ”Queen”, and they become more and more dependant on the guys affection, longing and admiration for them.

And then the false game starts and leads into a viscious circle. Because, after all, most men don’t care a damn about these women, they just want to have their instant fun and then pay to get away without any trouble. So the admiration given to the girls is a fake! It’s clearly the admiration for the object of lust and easy and instant sex because it isn`t meant to reach the real person behind the functional fucking surface. And the sex or ”love” the women there have to give, needed so very much by the men that they pay for it, is faked too, because it is delivered functionally and for money only.

And both sides keep on needing it so badly! And quite easily can slide into sex addiction with it's disastrous effects on bank account, family, partnership, other social contacts and job.

Dollars
03-14-06, 00:28
[QUOTE=Ortos]I've been visiting FKKs with a hired car for about 4 or 5 years now. Not once have I had to use any kind of GPS system, and I've found the clubs just fine, without too many problems.

Shiatsu and I drove (he drove) from World to Oase back in December, in the broad daylight. My first time there. In a little town we encountered detour signs that pointed in two directions (only in Germany!) that would have left me out in a cow pasture somewhere had I been the only one driving. Especially at night. And I've done a fair amount of driving in Germany over the years. Fortunately Shiatsu can do it on autopilot.

Not everyone is Mark Trail. I would applaud a new forum thread devoted to directions, and I appreciate anyone who can make things easier for the rest of us, electronically or otherwise.I second your suggestion. It would be a whole lot easier if the experienced Mongers can devuldge their knowledge in a seperate folder.

Henio
03-14-06, 19:36
Hi Dr. Phil,

How about couple of prozaks, or at least blend your negatives with a postive say every 5 negative posts you actually put in one positive.

Just a suggestion ;-)

Chivaz

Mike De H
03-14-06, 20:04
Hi Dr. Phil,

How about couple of prozaks, or at least blend your negatives with a postive say every 5 negative posts you actually put in one positive.


Chivaz

Most of this information he is comming out with is grossly inaccurate, not backed up with my conversations with the girls.

These Women do not hang around there on their day off, usually do have other freinds, are well aware that its just for instant gratification, not for real emotional contact, in short, all nonsense.

I suspect here Nick, another agenda comming on. Religious or Political. You sound fake to me, but I do believe you have been inside an FKK club. You just smell wrong, like press or something.

Nick The G
03-14-06, 20:45
Hi Dr. Phil,
How about couple of prozaks, or at least blend your negatives with a postive say every 5 negative posts you actually put in one positive.

Just a suggestion ;-)I have 6 postings so far. And my ratio seems o.k.

Thanks for suggesting. O.k., I'll try! First a couple of prozacs, and then viagra to establish a chemical defence avoiding reality. Should help :).

And then? Probably I will think, act and write like.


I suspect here Nick, another agenda coming on. Religious or Political. You sound fake to me, but I do believe you have been inside an FKK club. You just smell wrong, like press or something.I like the positive thinking here! :)

Think positive! Maybe I'm spiritually or politically depressed?

FKK-World opened in May 2003, now it's March 2006. I've been there more than 100 times.

Optimist
03-14-06, 21:04
Can I just say that Nick (Dr Phil) is definitely a genuine visitor to the club. I have met him and talked to him on several occasions. Whilst his approach in the posts may be a bit overwhelming I think there are some elements where he has some useful points to make.

Maybe there is a cultural difference here. If anyone thinks of a Fassbinder film before reading a post by Nick it will put you in the right cultural framework. For us Anglo-Saxon pragmatists it is a little difficult to attune to (like the German film where a car driver fuels his car and asks the attendant if there is any meaning in life - the English audience laughs squirmingly at what was intended to be a serious but not overwhelming(!) point).

I think he is right to think about the clubs being addictive, but incorrect in not realising that nearly all girls know exactly how to deal with this. I won't pursue this discussion here as it is a thread about World not clubs in general

By the way Mike - thanks for your compliment. It would be really good to see you on my next fleeting visit (28, 29 March)

Mike De H
03-14-06, 22:00
Can I just say that Nick (Dr Phil) is definitely a genuine visitor to the club.

Hmmm, OK then, if you say so, I will leave him alone and give him the benefit of the doubt, but I think overwhelming is a nice way of saying supercilious and self-absorbed.

Henio
03-14-06, 23:34
Let me just have one final word of this and then I'll be quiet:

Nick, I looked a bit into why I am taking personal offense to your writing and I find it to be the constant use of the words "you" and "they", but never "I" or "we". As I am not a native English speaker, I think it might be the way it translates in my head instead of your actual meaning. In my mind it sounds a awful lot like preaching and finger pointing all the time.

Chivaz

Blondofil
03-15-06, 10:44
Nick G I think you are a very big misygonist, you underestimate peoples ability to self control, there has always been people who can`t control themselves.
But i think the majority of hobbyists, isn`t spending more than they earn.

Optimist
03-15-06, 14:54
Mike, Chivaz - maybe I overdid my defence of N!! I was just trying to confirm that he was a regular visitor, and ponder the effects of someone writing (however well) in their second language. Personally I find the comments Nick makes to be like seeing only black darkness, with its imagined horrors, and missing the play of sunlight - maybe this concentration on the black is a reflection of self-absorption as you suggest Mike - focussing on only that part of a picture which resonates with oneself?

If I were to believe that FKKs were as Nick says I could not in all conscience visit them.

Chivaz - you are right to notice the use of language - it implies a superior approach - maybe the lack of the impersonal "one" in modern English (equivalent to the German Mann) is a contributory problem . I was talking to him about girls and also language - I found it interesting how often in German there is a disassociation between the doer and the action done (i.e. use of the passive) Ok - I'm a language anorak

Anyway, Nick was very helpful to me when I lost my wristband

Nick The G
03-15-06, 16:25
Can I just say that Nick (Dr Phil) is definitely a genuine visitor to the club. I have met him and talked to him on several occasions. Whilst his approach in the posts may be a bit overwhelming I think there are some elements where he has some useful points to make. Thanks, Shiatsu.

First of all, ”Dr. Phil”, forget about that!

No, it's not only dark black inside me :)
Maybe, at the end of a long winter, I see things too dark. I admit I like FKK-World much better in summer when I can enjoy the sun, the beautiful garden and pool outside together with the girls.

The so called ”imagined horrors” are based on many, many talks with women from non EU-countries on their working conditions in the club. Actually, I didn't have to use any imagination there!

What is true, I'm not a native english speaker, so maybe I don't have that innate, genuine feeling for using the appropriate words sometimes.


If I were to believe that FKKs were as Nick says I could not in all conscience visit them.Most of us men know what is going on there, but we don't want to see it, we don’t want to know it, we simply repress it. Because it would mirror us what is going on inside ourselves. After all, it is our money, that runs this system! Therefore it is true, it is all about what we want to believe in!

In general, I feel it's better to talk about somebody only after we've met him personally and know each other a little bit. Otherwise there's a big chance we tend to project a lot of things on that other person just by reading a few short lines here in a forum. And suddenly the other becomes/seems to be whatever we wish him to be, to fit our inner expectations.

We all have different perceptions of this thing called ”reality” in a FKK-Club. As guests, as working women, as service people, as managers, as pimps.

I was posting some things I noticed in FKK-World as my contribution to this forum. In no way they were meant to be a personal offence to anybody. Of course, they can and should be discussed if you have other perceptions of this ”reality”! Diversity in perception is better than normalized views and simplicity. This is the purpose of a forum, or?

Marlow
03-15-06, 20:51
What is it about Nick that gets your goat? Why does he touch a raw nerve with certain folk? I agree with Shiatsu - Nick is the dark side. He's the Bateman of this forum. (American Psycho). But what he says is hardly outrageous. Is it because he implies we have an attitude problem towards working girls? Or because he suggests girls from eastern bloc countries are out of their depth?

Let's accept in some cases this has to be true. There are some boneheads out there, just as there are some lost female souls. I am not sure whether to feel more sympathy for men or for the girls. The saddest man is the one who searches for an authentic sexual relationship in a sex club: the saddest girl is the one who believes what a man in a club tells her.

Yet it is possible that sometimes sex between the two of you is good. That you both enjoy it. but because you paid for it, you will never be sure that you are right.
Isn't that the dilemma? We so desperately want to believe our judgments.

A club is not reality, but that does not make everything that happens in it false. It is not real because the relationship only exists inside the club. If anyone of us goes into a club trailing our hopes and dreams of the perfect sexual union, then you are a suitable case for treatment. And I am sorry to say there are men who lose their heads, start thinking the girl is special, start building castles in the air. But I haven't yet met a girl who didn't know exactly what she was doing in a club - earning the dosh. Whether this messes up her head when it comes to normal relationships, I have to say in my experience the odds are this will happen. When a woman has seen too much of the 'dark side' of men it is hard for her to think of any man as better than the punters she has known.

I think this is why most girls try to keep what happens in a club away from their normal feelings and lives. They never take a busman's holiday so to speak. They go home to family and friends and wash the club out of thier heads.

Blondofil
03-15-06, 22:59
We should always be aware of the dark side in this hobby, and much of Nick G post is right.

There is the horrible trafficking situation, which is sadly for real. We are speaking of pimp/mafia situation which depends mostly Polish and Romanian girls, who are forced into the business, and have to leave all their money to a pimp/criminal mafia organization. These girls should definetly be avoided.

But I think there are many intelligent girls, who are in the business to explore their own sexuality and earn good money.

I totally agree with you Marlow, but what about this: Right now and here I just want to have sex with a beautiful girl and have fun and exictement right now and here.

I also agree with this: "And I am sorry to say there are men who lose their heads, start thinking the girl is special, start building castles in the air."

Thanks Marlow and Nick G, for clearing out we are not here to find a Girlfriend , but just to have sex and have a good time.

Stay real, don`t fall in love with a "material girl", but treat her good then you can have a hell of a good time and fun.

Now we all think of sex many,many,many times. And sorry for calling Nick G a misygonist but a grown up adult male can control his finances and has selfcontrol.

Just my few words.

Optimist
03-16-06, 09:59
Marlow - Spot on. Exactly right. It's good to get a balanced post on the topic with no emotional baggage and sub-text. Excellent summary which should put this topic to bed

Nick - I still do not accept that what you say is a complete reflection of the clubs. I think you have painted a partial picture only. I was trying to say that if I believed what you say I would not visit the clubs - because of this I have spent time talking to girls and assessing what they say. Whilst it is a complex world, I do not believe they are all being abused and exploited (although some are - as in all walks of life) - this is not a case of closing my eyes but of keeping them wide open. But I think you are right to raise the subject so that none of us ever start ignoring the reality of the girls work - it is not a fantasy world but made up of real people. When we see it as a fantasy we are in danger of closing our eyes.

Akibono
03-16-06, 22:00
One of the best things about this board is the open mindedness of the authors and the intelligent discussion. I think Nick hits on some valid points but many take his opinions to be true for all SW. While a FKK may be a negative experience for some women, most do not reach the extremes Nick suggests. In fact, most jobs face risks which are similar to a SW's.

How many workers in ordinary jobs prefer the work environment to family life? In the US, there are many. Jobs provide the security of a structured environment. A supervisor has control of employees and is rewarded for results with pay and adulation. The same can not be said for a spouse at home which faces demands from a wife and kids who demand money and do not always fully appreciate him. I know a few workers who actually prefer the work environment than a holiday with the family!! Thus, to critisize Nick is in someway a critique on the sex industry. It is saying that it is OK for a person in a normal job to let the job affect him negatively, but some how a SW is at greater risk.

On another point, one might consider how "normal" or self-destructive it is for a guy to fly thousands of miles and to spent hundreds of dollars in an attempt for a GFE experience that lasts a few minutes. Does it affect his ability to have a normal relationship with a true girl friend? Is it not hypocracy to presume a guy can handle an emotionally charged situation better than a woman?

Akibono
03-16-06, 22:03
I think I touched on some of these subjects when I met Cordelia awhile ago. I must say she was spot on in her analysis of the situation. Another example of her charms!

Optimist
03-17-06, 11:01
I would not normally reply to a post on the Forum however maybe there are a couple of my impressions that may be of interest.

Things are never black and white with any situation, people ( both men and women ) and their reactions to FKK are always intensely personal.

My main comment is around the authenticity of the FKK sex experience. Sex with a paid worker is not normally going to be comparable for emotional input with sex outside a club.

The comparison could be with eating out at a restaurant and eating a meal at home. At a restaurant (at its best) you get a meal, professionally prepared with enthusiasm, love and commitment. You can try things that are new and different which you could not prepare at home and experiment with new things to see whether you like them. It is not the same as having to live with the relationship or having to cook everyday.

Some guests have said to me that I am better and more exciting than their girlfriends - ok, maybe I am naturally better at sex than some women, but it is also my job to give the best experience possible. After all, the restaurant meal should be better than you can do at home, day in day out. I take pride in my work, as do quite a few girls

The food at a restaurant is neither better nor less authentic than when you eat at home it's just different. Both are real.

Hugs to all my friends who visit FKKW

Cordelia

FKKguide
03-17-06, 19:53
It is well documented that the 'trafficking' aspect is grossly exaggerated by a sensationalist press. BBC News had a very good series on this and they found out that the girls are coached to say they are trafficked (in UK), and/or under-age (in FRG) so they don't get deported and the welfare system takes care of them.

The subject always has been a fave with media: they used to call it 'white slavery' and 'Maedchenhandel' in the olden days. It's soooo .... titilating.

In Germany the trafficking problem is minimal, most EE residents can enter legally as tourists for 3 months, entering the country cheaply by train/bus, or even hitch-hiking, and can get legal status after finding a job, They often already speak German and/or English (thx to their free, good education system), are used to be independent. So they need no stinking traffickers nor pimps.

I personally hosted women (17-25 y o) from Poland, Czech Rep, Bulgaria, CIS, China, Thailand and other countries who had come on their own, at their own expense. Some of them stayed, most of them returned. It's a natural instinct in this age group, best described by the German term: 'Wanderlust'.

Statistically there are more trafficked illegals, say in Chinese/Thai/Indian restaurants, or in construction businesses and agriculture, even just overstaying au-pairs, than in brothels. Not to mention sweat shop factories in US, UK and EU.

There is exploitation, abuse, fraud and robbery in all businesses, where money changes hands. Look at Enron, look at Martha Stewart, the icon of 'prim and proper'.

So lighten up, it's just about sex, the nicest but least important aspect of life ('Die schoenste Nebensache der Welt,' as we Krauts say).

re GFE: Somewhere in WSG another wise person observed that Germans fly to Thailand for GFEs too, even if there is a brothel in their street (possibly with Thai hookers in it, I personally know 5 really nice ones.) So if you like to be a 'Liebeskasper' (fool/clown/sucker in love) get on a 24 hr flight to Bangkok.

German FKKs, brothels and Partytreffs are not good places to look for surrogate GFs or wives. They're just about clean, pure and unadulterated fun, just like German beer (brewed since the 1400 under the fabled Purity Law).

So enjoy and leave the emotional baggage behind.


We should always be aware of the dark side in this hobby, and much of Nick G post is right.

There is the horrible trafficking situation, which is sadly for real. We are speaking of pimp/mafia situation which depends mostly Polish and Romanian girls, who are forced into the business, and have to leave all their money to a pimp/criminal mafia organization. These girls should definetly be avoided.

But I think there are many intelligent girls, who are in the business to explore their own sexuality and earn good money.

......

I also agree with this: "And I am sorry to say there are men who lose their heads, start thinking the girl is special, start building castles in the air."

Thanks Marlow and Nick G, for clearing out we are not here to find a Girlfriend , but just to have sex and have a good time.

Stay real, don`t fall in love with a "material girl", but treat her good then you can have a hell of a good time and fun.

.......

FKKguide
03-17-06, 20:12
What is it about.

I think this is why most girls try to keep what happens in a club away from their normal feelings and lives. They never take a busman's holiday so to speak. They go home to family and friends and wash the club out of thier heads.You got it. And let me tell you, it's just as they say: "The hooker with a golden heart will make the best wife." Get this:

Years ago I befriended a really beautiful German model/actress who by choice went into porn and prostitution, made a bunch of money and got out of it while the getting out was still good (at 27). She got an office job (was a certified bookkeeper) and married her boss, an American executive/millionaire. After >20 yrs she is still married, has 2 great kids, and they go swinging together to Partytreffs because she's one of those rare nymphos men like to fatasize about.

Her husband is a lucky guy, much luckier than me who married only 'decent' girls and got divorced after 7 yrs each time. -- Go figure.

Blondofil
03-18-06, 12:28
Thanks FKK-Guide, for a very good post. I also agree with you that trafficking is very much a media hype, an doesn`t happen very often, maybe only 5% of all girls.

I really enjoyed reading your post, and I think it should be obligatory reading for newbies at fkk-clubs.

I also think professional club management, are aware that trafficking is bad for business. And should be avoided, because it damages a clubs image.

FKKguide
03-19-06, 18:10
Thanks FKK-Guide, for a very good post. I also agree with you that trafficking is very much a media hype, an doesn`t happen very often, maybe only 5% of all girls.

I really enjoyed reading your post, and I think it should be obligatory reading for newbies at fkk-clubs.

I also think professional club management, are aware that trafficking is bad for business. And should be avoided, because it damages a clubs image.Thx for the compliment. 5% is right on, by BBC and DW estimates. These girls are much more independent and liberated than West European/USA/UK/NZ/Aus ones who usually grow up spoiled, cuddled, sheltered and stupid.

I was told that in Russia girls even charge their boyfriends >Eu20 for intercourse. They are also better educated and more elegant than Western hookers, (EE fems often make their own clothes after French/Italian/German designer patterns). This was so as far back as the 1980s, BEFORE the change (I was in Minsk and Moscow 2 yrs on biz).

So don't let yourself be brainwashed.

Marlow
03-20-06, 15:25
Trafficking

Yes, I agree that this is overblown by the Press. They are almost obliged to do it, first it's the standard line and second they don't want to be seen as 'encouraging' the sex industry. I am talking here of the British Press, that haven of purile fantasies and perversions ( a very sad little island). And any girl with her wits about her is going to tell the cops she was forced into it.

Eating Out (if you get my meaning!)

Cordelia is right. I always order a dish in a restaurant I don't get at home! Otherwise why go out!

Optimist
03-20-06, 17:37
FKK Guide

I compliment you on your advertising. Almost every post ends with a link to your commercial website. I see that you started on the site on 15 March and within two days had then posted your classified ad (quite properly).

You may not realise it but your posts are totally breaking two of the rules of the forum. I wonder if the only reason you have joined is to advertise yourself. The rules you are breaking are

1.“No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section”

2. “Spam is defined as postings to the Forum that are contrary to the purpose of the site, including:
Commercial Messages”

From your reports I see the following which I quote, for example,

1. I go by motorhome with my FKK tour groups. http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

2. Look for me in WSG and elsewhere for guided tours in the Rhineland.
http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

3. If interested post here, PM, or follow link
http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

4. check http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

5 For Germany info see http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

6 PM me if intererested http://fkkguide.cyberfreehost.com

… and so on

All in a matter of a few days

You say in your website that you will be a private guide “if you (i.e. the client can afford the expense” so it is clearly commercial. You are also using the ISG PM system to take bookings “If you want to stay anonymous send me a Private Message at World Sex Guide. Payment can be transacted in several discreet, secure, anonymous ways including Moneybookers and AlertPay who accept credit cards bank transfers, e-gold ect.”

While I am objecting, can I also say I think the following is a travesty of the truth

“The women are there on their own free will and are treated with fairness, respect and dignity. Club operators cannot afford losing any staff and treat them accordingly (I know, I was in charge of personnel too as general manager of one)” I am sure all owners and managers of clubs say the same but anyone who knows anything about the girls knows that this is not generally (the bit about respect and dignity)– it suits those who are trying to make money out of selling FKKs or tours

At the very least please stop advertising your website in any of your posts and writing posts which seem designed to advertise your service. I know I am not the only isg member concerned by what you are doing

Nick The G
03-20-06, 20:42
FKK Guide

I compliment you on your advertising. Almost every post ends with a link to your commercial website. Shiatsu, I'm glad that you did some statement on his marketing/advertising campaign.

”Germany, a fairy tale land of plenty of fresh, clean pussy available cheaply for safe, legal prostitution”

This is the header of FKKGuide`s homepage. Yesterday I was reading it the first time.

This is by far the most disgusting way I ever heard someone speak about this business in Germany and the mainly foreign women who work here. It is clearly even below the style of ”BILD-Zeitung”.

Independently from this socalled ”pussy” being fresh, clean & cheap, or not, most women from non EU-countries suited for this fresh, clean & cheap business need a working permit to work in Germany, which they don't get easily or at all.

So, either they come for a couple of month and try to work illegally, accept bad conditions and do pray and hope, that they are not seized by a police razzia.
Or they want, or need, or are forced by circumstances, to marry an EU citizen to get the ”papers” they need to work as a prostitute.

In my impression, quite a few women who disappeared from FKK-World in September 2005 are back in the meantime, apparently being married now and with ”papers”! And most of them, I guess, didn't fall in love last summer with their present husbands in the club (no Liebeskaspers! :)).

But, besides romantic love :) , trouble and dependencies may start too. Because, if you’re a young girl and you don’t speak german or english, how do you know what to do in Germany? And this is, where clever managers and pimps take over, the girls pay and their business partners ”guarantee” with their know how the right procedures!

Another facet is, that many of these women don’t want to pay any taxes at all to the german state, even so they work in Germany for 2 to 5 years altogether. So it is understandable that german tax authorities pay increasing attention to this business.

I don’t close my eyes, it is a big business indeed.

And maybe FKKGuide is sort of a visionary, who clearly sees a bright future for Germany in developing into central Europe’s pay sex reserve / meeting point for payed sexual activities. Sort of ”bed & fuckfast” tourism, with people from countries all over the world coming to Germany to meet, kiss, lick, fuck and pay women from all over the world. In a way, ”borderline multi-culti”!

Warsteiner
03-20-06, 21:32
I completely agree with Shiatsu. This forum is supposed to be about people sharing advice and experiences not advertising their services. There is a Classified Ads section in the Germany forum.

Why don't you limit the advertising to that thread and then the other forums can remain a source of advice as they are supposed to be?

Optimist
03-24-06, 22:18
A couple of members had asked me in the past about Jana (the friend of Andrea)- well, for them the good news is that she is back

Blondofil
03-25-06, 00:09
Nick G Don`t you have a problem, when you are so negative and obviously has a
"moral majority" attitude.

I think that much of what you write has some truth in it. But you sound like a feminist or a preacher from the bible belt, if you are so negative and misygonistic shouldn't you stop visiting prostitutes and seek a psychologist, to sort out your moral problem, you maybe have some problems. But you are definitely not a representative for all mongers, why can`t you "look at the bright side of life" and just have a good time, instead of bitching because you have a problem with your conscience.

Nick The G
03-25-06, 11:53
I think that much of what you write has some truth in it. Don't worry, be happy! My life is not your life and my ”truth” doesn't have to be your ”truth”!


.....shouldn't you stop visiting prostitutes and seek a psychologist.... O.k.! I'm more than 45 years old. The psychologist will then tell me that indeed I have a problem relating to adult and adequate women when I spend many visits to FKK-Clubs and prefer to pay for easy sex with young ”willing” prostitutes!

Then I can tell him Cordelias story about going to nice restaurants instead of cooking at home. He will agree! He doesn't like to wash the dishes afterwards too.
But then he will look at me, smile and ask: WHY YOU NEVER COOK AT HOME?


But you are definitely not a representative for all mongers....This is true and I never attempted to be! Why should I? It's enough work to become an individual and develop and express your own thoughts and feelings instead of always trying to stay in the mainstream.

The Fan
03-25-06, 12:28
I was at World this past Thursday early afternoon. There aws about six girls who was present. Saw Iness, pretty blond, from Latvia. Basic session without kissing and fingering. She tried to upsold me longer session and cim, but I did not go for it. An hour later had a session with Inna, black hair, from Italy(?). Pretty much the same session like Iness.

I will return early tonight and see if I can luck out a gfe session with the other girls.

Ortos
03-25-06, 17:41
Fan,

Thanks for that up-date. It is well known that the Latvian girl, Innis, blonde haire often in a bun, 30ish, is a real dud session! I have never heard anybody come out of the room with her with a smile on the face and signaling thumb's up....Beware.

There are several gfe girls at World, but you have to find them. Like all clubs, selection strategies are crucial to success...

Whitey2
03-25-06, 22:37
[QUOTE=Nick The G]Don't worry, be happy! My life is not your life and my ”truth” doesn't have to be your ”truth”!

Glad to hear that, dude! Occasionally the tone this forum has taken lately sounds a lot like Franz Kafka delivering a long lecture at the International Gloom, Guilt and Ennui Society.

I belong to the Guilt-Free German FKK Appreciation Society, population at least one (me). I offer as my worldview the following short "fairy-tale," since fairy-tales have been mentioned here previously:


The World's Shortest & Happiest Fairy Tale

Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl, "Will you marry me?"
The girl said, "NO!"
And the guy lived happily ever after, and went on with his life and had a really great time, and played golf a lot, and drank beer, and played poker with his buddies, and had shiploads of money all to himself, and farted whenever he wanted, and had lots and lots and lots of really, really good sex. THE END
P.S.: And he never hurt anybody doing any of that.
P.P.S.: Actually, one girl did say "yes" to that question, but it didn't work out so well, and after a while he got over it.

Whitey the Happy

BottySpanker
03-27-06, 20:11
Sorry for the delay in writing this up. Been away since the visit.

Saw 5 ladies.

An English woman, can't remember her name ;)

Will not say what happened, but I had a good time. Comes recommended.

Saw a Rushian girl called Diana. Dark hair, cute breasts. She was quite sweet, but not a really passionate experience.

Saw another girl - Shiatsu help me out here, think she was Turkish. Needless to say she didn't make a big impression and not recommended.

Saw a black girl with huge mams - I was going for variety. That was quite a lot of fun. Sorry, can't remember her name, but there are only two girls who fit that description, so you have a 50% chance of getting it right. The other looked nice also, but the one I went with had the larger breasts.

Was looking for a really tall girl to finish off with and found Romona(?) from Spain. I came up to her elbows, and she had a lovely figure of legs that go on for ever and a curvy arse. Unfortunately, I was exhausted, but she was really sweet and charming. Would've liked to have spent more time with her.

Was my first time at World. Had a nice time. Think the girls are a bit better at Palace, but the club is very nice. Nice to meet up with Shiatsu and Cordelia also, they're both very charming.

Optimist
03-30-06, 08:14
The Turkish girl was Jasmin.

The black girl was Sharon.

And I know you know that the English one is Cordelia. Glad you had a good time.

It was good to meet you and have some nice conversation

Mike De H
03-30-06, 19:31
The Turkish girl was Jasmin.

The black girl was Sharon.



Now there is an interesting girl that never gets mentioned a lot! She does alright, Sharon, on the quiet, and if you like good sex she is a damned good, passionate shag. A bit of an "pro" in some respects, but not a clock watcher. Good kisser and considerate too. Well recommended.

Claim to fame? She once shagged (Identifiable Person removed)'s body-guard, although she doesent know it. LOL

Those of you who got that before I edited it - keep quiet!

Matteo 77
03-31-06, 14:26
Hy gentlemens

next week end we'll visit fkk world on saturday and oase or palace on sunday, Anybody else is planning to be there then? if so join us for a beer !!!

Gyg66
04-01-06, 14:32
Been there lately.
I went with Anka from Romania, very similar to Olga already described here (I think they are the same person): tall, red hairs to the shoulder, nice C-tits, wants to know exactly what do you want to do with her before entering the room, friend of another tall and slim girl with long black hairs.
After a perfect 5 minutes BBBJ, she made me come in 3 minutes in mish position, that's not normal for me. Maybe her pussy fits perfectly to my cock, I do not know...
Anyway, not an enthusiastic performance from her part, she seemed very annoyed from taking another guy to a room, she said me she had fuck too much lately.
I found no other girs with whom I would have want to spend some time in a room, even if there were about 30 girls presents, with an exception, Maria very beautiful, young, pretty face with a nice nose point upward, lot of mascara, but I did not take her because of the bad reports written here about her. This gives an indication of the quality level of this club these times.
Bye.

Beffen1
04-01-06, 18:05
gyg66, your report made me laugh knowingly. it underscores the topsy turvy world of fkk mongering, the ever changing playing field where timing is everything and it pays to get to know the girls, either on the couch or over time.

my experience last week was similar to yours in that i found the lineup at world relatively thin and uninspiring friends who work there said it was quite distressing and due to it being the end of the month and there are way too few free spending men and low spirit and many abscences among the girls. cordelia even told me this was the same pattern that was evident at exactly the same time last year.

olga and anka do have a similar look, a look that i love, evidenced by the fact that i know them both, but they are far from the same woman. when i first met anka, i was quite fond of her and we had a few good intimate and passionate sessions. but she soon cooled to me as i am not one to be processed quickly, shall we say, and now she does not speak with me. i, and my friends who know her, do not think that she is at all happy in this work.

i first met olga a year and a half or more ago and our first meeting was less than satisfactory and thus i avoided her for many months. she was always, and still is, visually, one of my favorite girls but the chemistry in that room that hot summer day that first time was just not there. recently during the faschingsparty, olga chatted me up at the bar and we decided to go down to the relax zone to chat. what has developed from that renewal of acquaintance has blown my mind. i found that once you get to know her, olga is one of the finest providers i have met at an fkk and she has become the "love of my life" whom i routinely spend a minimum of 90 minutes per session because she is so beautiful and addicting. try her and you'll see.

i also patched it up and sessioned with another girl who was less than pleased with me regarding posts on the mb's. she shall remain nameless, many of you know who i mean.

you also mention another current favorite of mine. that girl is young maria. my first encounter with her about two months ago lasted just under 30 minutes and seemed to be a waste of time and money, a fact which i posted about. but this week, after getting to know her a bit, she provided the bulk of my activity over three days at world, offering truly astounding [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) gfe sex and lots of affection and companionship outside of the room. so, based on my experience, now i can recommend maria as well.

funny how things change.

beffen

Optimist
04-01-06, 19:59
Gy66 - all I can say is that you are entitled to your opinion: my opinion is very different. The quality of the girls is as high as ever and the type of girl is more varied than ever. Maybe you went on a bad night. There are now girls there from Oase and many of the old World girls. I am sorry you had a bad time with Anka - however she does not offer more than she delivers - her demeanour in the main room makes it quite clear how she is.

When I get a little time I will report on my recent visit

Dedalus
04-01-06, 21:56
Crisis in the Frankfurt FKKs

Not to push a panic button and these things are do run in cycles, but I think it is fair to discuss these matters. That is what the forum is for.

I visited 2 of the big 3 in Frankfurt this week. In addition to that I had discussion with some people who spent some days at the third that I did not visit. I wish I could report that all is well on the FKK Frankfurt front, but there is certainly something amiss going on.

There have been signs of a “recession” since January. During my first FKK visits this year, I noticed a high number of women and few guests. These visits were usually on high volume days (Thursdays-Saturdays) and I heard and number of girls complain that male traffic was undeniably off and that even the top girls were suffering somewhat. Also a number of girls have moved away from the Frankfurt scene and are either in Berlin, NRW, Nürnburg or Augsburg. This is strange, especially since these should be prime money-making times for the FKK girls in Frankfurt. The Messen are running. Business boys are still flying in and out of Frankfurt. Where is the problem?

As a result of this recession, service seems to be off. Actually it is often [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor. Many people on various boards have referred to a “Laufhausatmosphäre und Mentalität” with the girls. This is to be expected as there are a number of Laufhaus girls who are working in Oase and Palace at the moment. 9 times out of 10 these girls will deliver a service far below your typical FKK standard.

This past week was a Messe weeks. A pretty decent sized Messe at that. Every year during this particular Messe, Oase and Palace do brisk trade. This week there was something rotten in Frankfurt.

On Monday I made a swing by World. Both girl and guy volume was somewhat low, even for a Monday. World still has a pretty decent line-up of girls and seems to be in better shape than the others. World has never really been a very high-volume place in any case. Not too many guys (maybe 25) and a like number of girls. I had great sessions with a blonde who I have known for a few years now, the dynamic and beautiful Olga, her country woman Katharina, and a sweet young thing named Camilla. She is about 24, has dark hair, is kind of thin and is of Iranian/Turkish descent. The only session that was a bit off was the one with Katharina, who is normally a great provider but I think that her mind was on her up and coming vacation. Therefore she was a bit more hectic than usual.

I was very tempted to try out a new girl that I saw. Dark-haired, nice C-sized breasts, good figure, a dollar-sign tattooed on her right ass-cheek. She has a very sexy look. Anyone know anything about this one?

The girls were a little moody and a number complained that business is just off. Quite a few were knocking off a little early. I was shocked to see Daniela leaving just minutes after I arrived (ca. 18:45). I stayed till 1 AM and witnessed the girl population be halved by attrition. Sunny, formerly of Oase, seemed to be in it for the long haul. I wanted to tell her that her change of work venue is not going to make people forget her reputation, but the girl is pretty fit and could no doubt kick my ass around the block for drill. The overall mood was ok, but there was clearly something in the air. It speaks to World’s credit that despite the current scene, I was able to have 3 good sessions out of 4.

3 nights later…

A pretty good sized Messe has started and I am thinking that if there will ever be a good night to visit Palace or Oase, then this will be it. Wishful thinking on my part as it turned out, but the research was valuable.

The gents that I was running around with and I decided to check out Oase. One of these guys had been at Palace the previous evening and was pretty harsh in his critical assessment, saying that the Frankfurt red-light area had more to offer. We hit Oase at about 9 PM. The parking lot, while not empty, was a little light for a Messe night. Inside there were a few recognizable faces but the quality was decidedly off. No Maria, no Nora, no Veronika, no Kira, no Steffi (she has moved to the club in Berlin, no Lizzy, no Donna (I hear that she is also trying out Berlin); hardly any of my favorites. A few familiar faces were present: Lucy (also know as “dead-fish” girl, kinda cute though), Alex, Sabrina, Judith, and (wait for it Chivaz)…Gabriella. She was a busy girl the whole night and it was hard to pin her down, but I have an answer to your question.

I was hoping to at least find one or two providers who would suit my fancy but after an hour I was still searching. This is how lame it was: It was a full hour before I had my first hard-on and this took place in the Kino when a particularly spicy porno was running. The phrase “Club ungepoppt verlasen” was starting to go through my mind when I caught sight of Beatrice. I practically ran to her and started a bit of small talk. She was very friendly and we were laughing a bit, but this just was not my night. She politely told me that a Stammgast of hers had just arrived and she really had to give him priority and that she hoped that I understood. I did, but I was disappointed. She would be occupied by this guy for the entire time I was there.

I started looking at Judith, thinking that she would be a good choice. She has always been a good session. However she was talking to a cute dark-haired girl with Asian characters tattooed down her spine and a dolphin tattoo on her left shoulder. Her name is Lila from Hungary and she is pretty attractive. That night, she graded pretty high on the bell-curve looks wise. I opted for her rather than Judith more for variety than anything else. The session was ok. Not bad FKK standard but nothing earthshaking and she seemed either bored or sad. I should have chosen Judith but I am a wiser man now.

There was one girl who caught my attention earlier that evening who had a pretty alluring look to her. She is a blonde from the Ukraine named Leonie and I thought about approaching her earlier that evening but I saw her send 4 guys away and thought that she might be a problem. However we made some eye-contact a few times and my smile was returned in kind, so I was willing to take a risk. It turned out to be a chance worth taking as she was a great session and saved what would have been a complete write-off of an evening.

There was a bit of drama at Oase that night. There were a number of drunken Russians who were whooping it up that night. One Stoli-drinking Gorbachev made enough of an ass of himself to cause 4 members of the security staff to set up a permanent presence in the bar area. The idiot even grabbed my arm at one point a said something inaudible. Around 1:30 AM he mistook a bed in one of the rooms for a toilet and barfed up a good bit of his booze. I am not sure why the let him stay but he was allowed to shower, dress and leave on his own. Despite this generous attitude on the part of Doro and the security staff, the drunkard was continuing to create a ruckus on his way out and his colleague was doing is best to control him as he got more and more aggressive.

Now, I mentioned that Doro and the security staff were showing great restraint in dealing with this guy. This surprised me for the guy should have been tossed much earlier in the evening. What is the reason for this? Could it be that the place is so in need of customers that they would tolerate aggressive drunks who puke in the rooms? Let’s hope not.

I am pretty sure that a visit to Palace would not have been much better. Nearly all accounts of Palace have been lukewarm or worse for some time now. I felt fortunate to have salvaged one good session that evening. I hear that many top-acts from the Frankfurt area are club-hopping; probably in an effort to find a more lucrative “home”.

Let’s hope that this situation rights itself soon. I hear that Lisa from Berlin will be in Oase starting tomorrow and that may help their situation a little bit. Not sure if that will be enough though.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who is waiting and hoping for an FKK bull market, minus the high prices

Akibono
04-01-06, 23:58
I second your report. It is the same as my observation of Palace and Oase. However, I don't think Palace is as dire as you state. You are right. Something is amiss. I don't think the economy is entirely to blame. After all, the banking industry is still doing pretty well. I don't know of general layoffs in the industry, but people are definitely tight fisted. The foreigners still seems to be there. It is the young Germans that are missing. Unfortunately, that's the business the girls count on. If it continues, I expect the quality of the girls to drop dramatically. Most of the girls in the Frankfurt area are not working on a part time basis. Thus, a few slow days in the week hurts. They expect to do 5-10 sessions per day, not 2-3.

Marlow
04-02-06, 10:03
Some Germans say that March is always a low turnout month, and the end of any month is a time of checking the bank statement. Another reason often given is that it is Lent and Germans are in a state of abstinence after the (free) sexual excesses of Carnival and Fasching until Easter is over. Also I could venture that the time of day plays a part. Most mongers here seem to go in the evening to FKK clubs, whereas many Germans play hookey during the day and the good husband in the evening.

Things always pick up in the early summer and then comes the dead months of July and August. Look on the bright side, hey you are numero uno.

Optimist
04-02-06, 10:07
Dedalus

You are right. The lack of spare money in the German economy is really telling. The result is that new girls keep coming, try their luck. but then leave after a few days. This high turnover does not help the FKK ambience since such girls often tend to be operating a laufhaus style. This all then in turn puts pressure on the long term workers.

However I still enjoyed my recent visit (will report as soon as possible). But I was careful in my choices. And I certainly did not go with Sunny - who scares the s... out of me. She certainly knows how to dispose of a man within five minutes. A great figure doesn't make up for other deficiencies

Mike De H
04-02-06, 12:10
First GY66, I confirm that Maria IS a good service provider, but she has to click with you. Basically, she is a "talker" if you seewhat I mean. She is maturing rapidly as well. Nice Girl really, just a bit young and a bit too smart in her earlier days.

Daedilus, Shiatsu, etc... about the lack of clients..

Normal economical rules should apply. Basically demand has fallen so competitiveness and quality will increase.

What I think we are seeing here, is as mentioned, a breif period where first timers are more obviously in nuber as some girls go out of business and newbies come in to try their luck. Only the very best of these will survive. This will have a tempory downturn in trade as the perception will be that service levels have gone down. In fact, the long term effect on service levels will be good, provided clubs are harsh on the bad service providers.

My only concern is, that the clubs (other than World) don't give a toss. I reported abotu this when I saw it comming at the end of last year at Palace. I got slated on the Palace thread, but I know I am right - "Mark my words" I believe I said -I see the signs. This attitude will allow the "cowgirls" too much free reign and they will turn off potential customers. The Customers, now used to FKK to the point of boredom will walk.

Look at me, for instance, I saw it comming and now I do my mongering in Dubai, where the scene is fantastic. Thats where all the Russian girls are at the moment, and working for less money too!

Having said this, the clubs need to crack down on bad customers also. Now is the time to turn the screw and keep the standards high even if the volume is small. That will mean that when there is an economic upturn, the recovery will be quicker.

You will also notice it come in fits and starts, with many false recoveries.

Generally though, its positive. As demand falls, quality increases, although the good girls will be busy all the time, and one or two other perculiar short term effects will kick in.

Any economists wish to elaborate? I am just a businesman after all, not an economist.

Akibono
04-02-06, 18:04
Actually, as demand drops, so does supply. When no one is making money (or enough money) there is no incentive to improve the product. The same goes with sex. Pretty girls will choose other jobs while the desperate remain. After all, sex is usually not a preferred occupation.

What a drop in demand causes in a decrease in the price.

Mike De H
04-02-06, 18:17
Actually, as demand drops, so does supply. .

I thought that when demand dropped you got oversupply. Deals are done! But then, I am not qualified..

Optimist
04-02-06, 18:18
As a preface to a post about my recent very enjoyable visit to World I’ll mention a few slightly off-topic bits

1. I stayed at the Grunen Baum and was immensely impressed. For 17.50 euros a night I expected a bad place. In fact it was better than any other family run hotel I have stayed at – including ones I have paid 90 euros for. Obviously it was not up to the Steinsgarten standard but it was a fifth or sixth of the price. Shower and washbasin in room – toilet off the corridor, The owner speaks good English and is best contacted after 4.00 pm German time. As it is only 10 minutes walk from the club and 10 seconds from a bus stop to Giessen you could even stay there without a car. It has the added advantage that some of the girls stay there – I met Yvette on my way out and got a free cuddle and kiss (all part of the service)
2. The food at World seems to be improving with slightly more choice
3. There are pole dancers employed every night at World. Personally I am not interested as they are not as good as Magda or Steffi, but it keeps the girls interested (professional interest)
4. One member PM’d me, not knowing that I am Cordelia’s man, and,in passing, said that he was sorry he could not go with her as she had a man who was on the forum. I understand this reluctance. Can I just say that Cordelia never discusses clients and that I have no problem with what she does. And of course , most workers have men partners – unlike Cordelia however they do not let it be known generally in case it puts clients off
5. I heard that a woman went to World as a guest and paid for a session with a girl. I take my hat off to her enterprise and nerve
6. Mike de H – Cordelia tells me World will not be the same without you :-). As for economics - yes I think you are right, it's just that the process of adjustment may be a bit painful (oversupply, drop in standards) etc In the meantime those clubs who take complaints seriously are likely to emerge strongest. However sometimes I despair about the customers - so many of them seem to be happy to finish a session in five or ten minutes without a bleat of complaint. Rule 1 - only go with a girl whose clients seem to be happy and who are not all disposed of in 10 minutes

I'll do a post about my encounters with Yvette (several), Anna-Maria (surprisingly), and Eileen as soon as I can

Nick The G
04-02-06, 19:01
I was very tempted to try out a new girl that I saw. Dark-haired, nice C-sized breasts, good figure, a dollar-sign tattooed on her right ass-cheek. She has a very sexy look. Anyone know anything about this one? a very sexy look? Yeah! could be Adrienne from Hungary, she has this dollar-sign tattooed on her right ass-cheek! In fact, she is already there in Pohlheim for many, many month, having nicely enhanced breasts since september last year. And a very good recommendation, if you like action in the room. She told me she has 25% gipsy in her blood. I saw it once when, last december, she was dancing very wild downstairs in the bar early in the morning, wow!


I was shocked to see Daniela leaving just minutes after I arrived (ca. 18:45). Hey, was it because of you? :)

Heard from other girls, that the ”romanian tornado”, that transports you from "Kansas" to ”the land of OZ” within seconds, had severe headaches (emotional storms leading to tornado in her head?) and therefore had to leave very early on monday, didn't show up next day too.

At least she is now back to her pretty figure again, fucked away approx. 4-6 kilos.

Had a nice time yesterday, Saturday, at the party in FKK-World. Full house, many girls and men, but girls were still complaining about low business.

Edit, of course, didn't complain, she told me she had a very good day starting early in the morning.

The two small girls on high shoes from Cuba, blonde Bany and black haired Gloria, were there. It's always a pleasure to meet them and encounter with their temperament! Often, Gloria, or the two of them together, perform as pole dancer(s).

Lots of new girls I never seen before. Didn't try any of these.

Did too much talking with guys around before midnight.

Some professional pole dancers appeared, later on Betty Ballhaus was doing a show, presenting her big ”ears”. Not my type of woman!

After midnight, I spent some time downstairs at the bar with others from the ”Roemerforum”. We were drinking our bottles of house champagne (you get a bottle for ”free” on a party when you have a VIP card).

Daniela tried an eye-catching performance next to us. After drinking one glas of beer with a guy, she was first dancing, than moving, climbing, clinging, sitting in her typical styles all over this man pressed back in the chair, climaxed in sitting on the bar with her legs over his shoulders.

The ”Drama Queen” in full action! Daniela obviously was pleasing herself :), desperately trying to impress and to be in the center of attention. She was constantely reassuring herself on the effect of her actions by looking at us and in the mirrors on the walls.

Soon it became clear, that it was meant more to attract the views of all of us next to her in the bar than to serve this one man. He was chosen to play the role of the super-numerary in her drama.

It was like a flash-back that came to my mind, I've been through this kind of action in public performances with her many times before, damn shit, as long as you're ”under treatment”, you don't notice what's your part! Even if it may feel good.

Luckily, Bany, the nice blond girl from Cuba, at this point entered the bar and came directly to me. I know her already from several sessions. I invited her for a glass of champagne, despite ongoing ”tornado actions” in proximity concentrated fully on her :) Then we left the bar and went off for a nice/wild session. Had a beautiful ”dark room” hour with Bany, 100% pure feeling, including lots of DFK, bbbj and special ice cube treatment :).

Catalyst
04-02-06, 19:04
I thought that when demand dropped you got oversupply. Deals are done! But then, I am not qualified..
Yeah. I don't understand why a girl would be rushing you if there are no other clients to get back to. Wouldn't she take some extra time to try to get a repeat customer. Even a tourist can be a repeat customer later that day or the next day.

Rogers
04-03-06, 04:24
Bit of a late report - month ago.

1. Rita - Hungry, blond, tan, small, 30s, medium build, a bit of a gut. Nice girl and session. Despite the CBJ, would repeat.

2. Tried Rita's friend, also from Hungry. Not as attractive and more overweight. Blond, small, 20s. Let me cum on her ahole.

3. Tried 2 czech girls that hang out together. Both forgetable sessions and I forgot their names. 1 has dyed blond curly hair and is tan. Almost thought she was brazillian. Did not have the classic czech look. Her friend, facially, looked a bit like porn star lannie barbie.

4. Julie - think everyone on this board knows her. Romanian, black long hair, medium build but very pretty face. I fcked up on this one. I initially rejected her when she came to me. When I did decide to try her on another visist, she remembered me and the service was shit. Distant and cold.

Dedalus
04-03-06, 11:50
a very sexy look? Yeah! could be Adrienne from Hungary, she has this dollar-sign tattooed on her right ass-cheek! In fact, she is already there in Pohlheim for many, many month, having nicely enhanced breasts since september last year. And a very good recommendation, if you like action in the room. She told me she has 25% gipsy in her blood. I saw it once when, last december, she was dancing very wild downstairs in the bar early in the morning, wow!

Hey, was it because of you? :)


Thanks for the word on Adrienne. I will put her on the lust-list. I am a bit surprised to hear that those things are enhanced. They looked kind of real.

Daniela would never run away from me. She knows that I have a good cure for whatever ails her ;-))))

Cheers,

Dedalus

Optimist
04-03-06, 18:45
Dedalus - they are definitely enhanced! All helps in earning more money. She has been there for well over a year

Will Stewart
04-03-06, 19:06
Dedalus - they are definitely enhanced! All helps in earning more money. She has been there for well over a yearShe wouldn't be getting a penny off me if I were there as I personally wouldn't look twice at any girl who resorts to breast implants. Absolute turn-off for me. Nothing worse in my book.

Dedalus
04-03-06, 20:45
She wouldn't be getting a penny off me if I were there as I personally wouldn't look twice at any girl who resorts to breast implants. Absolute turn-off for me. Nothing worse in my book.

Fair enough. I personally am only interested in her mind so I will overlook her disgustingly enhanced knockers whilst engaging in a highly aesthetic experience with her :-)))

Cheers,

Dedalus, who actually could give less than a tinker's damn whether they are real or not.

Nick The G
04-04-06, 00:41
Thanks for the word on Adrienne. I am a bit surprised to hear that those things are enhanced. They looked kind of real.It's true, they look and feel like they're original! Good work. Adrienne is a fantastic woman, for some time she and Daniela worked together to please those men in the room who wanted two girls.

I've been to the room with Adrienne already last June, action had the same quality like now, but ”things” were quite different then!


....Dedalus would never run away from me. He knows that I have a good cure for whatever ails him ;-)))) Dedalus, I changed the perspective for a trial!:)

She needs lots of money, so she chose to do this job, it's as simple as that.:)

But back again, you have a good cure for whatever ails her? Sure?
It’s obvious, she likes to fuck a lot, fucking might indeed be a good cure for her money problems, but.....

We all know that she behaves a bit ”crazy”, isn't she? Any clue why? Many of us make use of her wild and seemingly limitless behaviour to have our pleasure with her behind closed curtains/doors, don't we?

As long as there is professional distance and ”no feelings” are involved, she`s charming, sweet and/or cool and tough (”taff” as she would write it! :)). A top performer in her job, she will stay with the men to give her be(a)st as experienced sex worker.

But there's another side to it! Now, can anyone imagine that:

- During her work, she often has big problems sensing her body at all?
- She tells men to fuck her really hard and deep to sense something, pain at least?
- Often her inner perception is being emotionally ”empty”
- She feels bored very very easily?
- She hardly can be alone and she is constantely looking for and attracting people's company and situations, that will exite her (like having almost non-stop sex as in FKK-World) and make her feel alive, trying to fill this ”emptiness” inside her. In vain?

She is impulsively acting out, rotating furiously on the outside but feeling empty at the largely undefined core (it’s the name of the game, like a tornado!).

Imagine what would happen to the ”Gestalt” of the tornado, if the tornado would slow down and finally stop? Obviously "Daniela” would be completely gone! No body likes something like that!

But remember, most tornados leave behind a corridor of big damage done to the land they went over.

Therefore, as a ”doctor” or ”helper”, don't try to get too close and cure her ails with love, as this will cause a big drama. As a metaphor, it's like approaching a seducing siren, starting a dance with her, transmorphing to wake up a sleeping dragon, at some point unexpectedly ending attacked - and wrapped up in flames spit out - by the furious dragon.

Imagine, it's like when a "laser beam" hits "deep frozen" feelings, all never sensed due to traumatic experiences in early childhood, but captured, accumulated and encapsulated by freezing over a very long time inside. In the focused ”heat”, part of these frozen feelings will melt instantaneously and liquidify, then boil up and rise directly to the surface, no conscious "floodgates" or "barriers" established or involved due to almost lifelong lack in experience. This is causing really strong emotional torrents leading to a physically painfull and burning emotional overflow that may last intensively for hours or even days. No way to stop it! Often these feelings are too much to stand without medicamentation.

Alltogether, it's an unstable, extreme emotional condition, that most of us haven't heard of, can't imagine and never will sense. It can be a big and terrible, sometimes lifelong, tragedy for people having to live with that.

But Daniela is damn strong, and, she was born under a lucky star. I like her and I hope she will get 90+.

Excess
04-04-06, 14:30
With some shame, I have to admit that in the past I have lowered myself to party with a lady carrying some enhancement.

Call me base, shallow, what you will, and I expect that I will carry on doing so when the flesh is both weak and willing. One man's poison is another man's delight.

Whitey2
04-04-06, 15:52
I also likes 'em big & bouncy! Whether home-grown or customized, makes no difference. To each his own.

And remember, the girl in question would have shelled out some tall euros to make that happen, for SURE because she thought it would make her look better. Girls rarely intentionally do things to make themselves look worse, the li'l darlin's. You will observe that some of them primp and mirror-mug the livelong day. It would be cruel to somehow overtly or covertly offer up the opinion to her that she'd done the wrong thing.

Ripple66
04-04-06, 16:38
Whitey said
I also likes 'em big & bouncy! Whether home-grown or customized, makes no difference. To each his own.
Personally I go for the other extreme. I find smaller fruits sweeter.

And remember, the girl in question would have shelled out some tall euros to make that happen, for SURE because she thought it would make her look better........... It would be cruel to somehow overtly or covertly offer up the opinion to her that she'd done the wrong thing.[/QUOTE]

Very astute observation - but i have been with a couple of girls in clubs who were ashamed of their small boobies and said (or hinted) that they planned to enhance them. I replied that I had picked them because of how they look now and wouldn't want them to change (and spend tall Euros).

Ripple

Riceman11
04-04-06, 16:49
I'll be visiting this Sunday April 9, arriving sometime afternoon.

Anyone else around. I might try the wristband around the watch trick to identify myself.

My favorite is Betty (Cuba). Does she typicakky work Sundays (I've never been to World on the weekend).

Also, I'll be at one of the Frankfurt area clubs late evening Thursday, not sure which one.

I will be in Munich/Regensburg during the week. Any advice on FKKs in area is appreciated.

Thanks,

Riceman (Mark)

Henio
04-05-06, 19:32
My favorite is Betty (Cuba). Does she typically work Sundays (I've never been to World on the weekend).

Also, I'll be at one of the Frankfurt area clubs late evening Thursday, not sure which one.
Riceman (Mark)
Hi Mark,

I think Betty works pretty much all days, at least she seems to be always there when I arrive (note that I do not have many Sunday visits under my belt though). She usually starts early.

Which Thursday are you talking about?

Chivaz

RedDog
04-05-06, 21:02
i have not been around for a while but last i knew she worked everyday for 2 weeks and then 2 weeks off

Riceman11
04-06-06, 19:25
Thanks for the responses re: Betty. After I put the not up I RTFF and saw that someone had been with Betty on a February Sunday. I have lots of others to consider if she is not there.

I will be at World this Sunday April 10, and a one of the other Frankfurt FKKs (World, Palace, or Oase) on Wednesday April 13 (not Thursday). Not sure which club I'll be at.

I haven't been to Palace since it became a FKK. I was at a club in the same/similar location several years ago.

FKKguide
04-06-06, 22:20
I also likes 'em big & bouncy! Whether home-grown or customized, makes no difference. To each his own.

And remember, the girl in question would have shelled out some tall euros to make that happen, for SURE because she thought it would make her look better. ...... It would be cruel to somehow overtly or covertly offer up the opinion to her that she'd done the wrong thing.There are good and bad implants as we all know. My 2nd wife, the German nympho porn star was small titted naturally and got only roles where she had to impersonatre schoolgirls, until she had a very good saline implant job done through small cuts under the armpits and under the existing breast tissue. Even though tempted to go for the largest size available she listened to the doctor's advice and picked one a size or two smaller, but larger than his standard recommendation. The results were spectacular! They looked and felt absolutely natural, helped by the absence of tan lines due to our nudist lifestyle.

Thereafter she got work almost every day, got onto several magazine covers, and made tons of money. I was in hog heaven, because I got to travel with her and sometimes performed in her videos too. I can assure you that in her case the performaces were not faked, contrary to the impressions some posters here had with other enhanced females.

Peter Kin
04-06-06, 22:44
[QUOTE=Riceman11] I might try the wristband around the watch trick to identify myself.

What is the wristband idea? Sounds great and I would like to try it.

Pete

Marlow
04-07-06, 08:55
I assume this is slipping your locker key tag through your watch band and knotting it. I never knew this was a secret sign! I do it because it is simply easier than fiddling around threading the wretched key tag through the plastic retainer.

Optimist
04-09-06, 16:10
after spending a morning in giessen i returned to the grunen baum to be greeted by yvette, who was leaving to return to czech republic. she waved and grinned from beyond two or three people who were in the way, and initiated a conversation (using sign, english and german) to establish that she was flying back to her family for a break. leaving behind her second home.

around 12 (mid-day) i got to world and realised that i had misinterpreted the gestures etc. yvette was there and in fact was not going home until next morning. (so she was after earning as much as possible on her last day – as the day wore on i saw that she was one of the busier girls there). back to the beginning – i went to the bar and was engaged in conversation by the delightful betty, who was looking forward to her holiday early in april. i only hear excellent things of betty. highly recommended. with the bar staff we discussed the effects of lentil soup. yvette spotted me and sensing prey approached me – however i put her off as i had a long day ahead.

during the day there were about 25 girls and about 15 men- but business was very slow. there were few people to my taste – but then i have refined my taste to exclude almost everybody. so i resorted to the secondary stratagem – to look for somebody who might be able to compare to the best. after an hour or so i had made no progress (although i had made good progress in reading a rather esoteric book). and i still owed a session to yvette (well, that’s how she sees it i think). how on earth i end up with all these sessions with yvette i don’t know – apart from the fact that she had been kind in bringing me news of an ex-worker on a previous visit. so, i went to a room, and had a really good time – mainly physical but with as much chat as our limited language skills allowed. she is probably one of the best in the room at world – which is why she gets so many customers – i have previously described her. quite tall, a little large, reddish slightly curly hair, and a very deep tan – not an obvious “looker” for my taste (but then i notice that the german men are particularly fond of girls who i would say are very overweight, and in comparison to them yvette is a lithe slip of a thing).

back to reading the book. as the afternoon wore on the evening-shift girls arrived. they start to arrive early nowadays as the business is not so good. i had been told that some of the oase girls had tried world out to see if the business was any better at world than oase. i heard comments about the oase girls being less scrupulous about cleanliness – maybe sour grapes or maybe a reflection of the general grubby state of oase (whatever one thinks of world it is clean)

i was watching a couple of girls who were not the normal world style – they were a little more sophisticated in their style – the world style is more “au naturel” (if i have spelt it right), even if it takes the girls two hours to complete the make-up which makes them look as if they are without make-up. this couple were one slim blonde with long legs, around 30, and one shorter dark haired girl with enhanced breasts. definitely more the oase type. however i noticed that the blonde in particular was processing men in sometimes under ten minutes, so i gave her a wide berth. her colleague seemed a bit softer so i gave a smile. for me this is a great event – i like the girls to approach me, but i accept that in world (unlike oase) this happens fairly rarely. she sat and talked with me for five minutes or more. she introduced herself as eileen. we went to the kino (her choice). when we got there i saw that her friend was already engaged with a man. eileen then gave a good professional service for 25+ minutes – (i had made it clear that i had noted the time of the start of our session). not outstanding service but certainly nothing to complain about. she said she had no problem if men fucked for half-hour (one of the complaints of girls is clients who fuck for the whole session). i did not come, as the session was not magical enough to be worth that effort – i gave her an explanation why not (age, decrepitude etc). most girls see their job as making a man come and this is why they think it’s ok to stop a session after ten minutes – if they get a man to come they have done their job

i went with yvette again later in the day – i had been encourage by her two orgasms in my first session and wanted to see if i could repeat that. however she is only human and was running out of steam (but not enthusiasm and general niceness). after that session i noticed she had a sun-bed as chocolate brown was obviously too pale(!!) and a massage. getting ready for the holiday.

by evening there were about 60 girls and only 20 men so still very slow. sunny turned up and with her long legs, enhanced breasts, and hard stare, started processing the naïve world men at a rate of one every ten minutes. i got the zombie shivers and kept my eyes firmly below her neck –getting the benefits of seeing her body but avoiding the gimlet eyes.

the rumanian girls were back. anka, magda, anna-maria (hungary), steffi ( i do not know where she hails from). claudia always greets me with a friendly hello, but the others blank me (despite the fact that i have been with several of them) (and don’t you say it is because i have been with them!....)

i was looking for a quick chat with jana from cz, but she was having a day off.

still nobody i really was keen on. i prefer the don quixotic quest i guess. what is my holy grail? – the worker who is professional and has boundaries but at the same time shares a little of herself, is intelligent, sensitive, and who also enjoys and is good at sex. all at a rate of 50 euros per half hour

i ruminated on the food. a gradual improvement seems to be taking place. soup is often available early in the day, the fruit salad is around for longer, and there were two sauces with the pasta. there is scrambled egg as part of the breakfast. so i busied myself in my fruitless task of getting 65e worth of food and drink

i sat on the sofa downstairs by the phone. and anna marie came past. untypically i called out to her to come and sit and talk to me. which she did. i was intrigued – she explained that she had ignored me recently because for two consecutive visits in 2004(!) i had not gone with her so she assumed i was not interested. poor marketing in her part, but in essence she was right. but she was happy to talk and sit with me – about what she had been doing over the last year, some of her personal circumstances etc. – and she did not expect to go to a room. after about 15 minutes i suggested a room. partly it was for old-times sake (when she was hannah). in the room she is a much better performer than when she first started – physically much better, but mentally much harder. we discussed this change and how she interpreted her professional attitude. and some wry jokes about how she is the boss in the session (she taps the bed and says "sit" much as i do to my dogs) i like her a lot and admire many things about her. i can now recommend her – if anyone has tried her a couple of years ago she is worth another try now – provided you can get just a little softening in the protective coat she wears

Euro100
04-11-06, 07:46
Encouraged by Shiatsu's posting that Jana was back at FKKW, I went back there last Friday, as part of the big-3 comparison tour. There were about 25 girls present as I entered around 4 pm. Not many men; in other words a buyer's market. I recognized a few familiar faces like the German Lara, the Russian Olga, the Rumanian Daniela, and two or three other girls I have done before, but for whom I did not remember the name. No Jana to be seen. Bummer.

Oh well, I took a llittle food and a capucino, got settled at the bar. they had actually hired a couple of strippers to spice things up a bit. One of them appealed to me; so after her act I went over to her and chatted her up. Her name is Colleen, but she infomed me that she and her partner don't do sessions. They were strictly there for the strips. What a silly situation! At Oase and Palace the workers do the stripping, and it definitely enhances their earnings as far as the number of sesions goes.

I took a stroll through the downstairs part and found it almost completely empty, except for a few guys trying to hide from the girls between sessions.

When I arrived upstairs again, I saw Jana. She almost came running over to me, and we had a very nice (and sincere from both sides, I might add) time on the couch with each other. Following her request, we had gone to the downstairs room with the black leather sofas. We talked about last year and what happened since. One of the finest sessions I ever had with her followed. If you have read my previous posts, you will know that this is high praise, because Jana is already in my top 10 all time.

If you do not know already, Jana is blond, usually wears her hair pulled up with a comb-clip, also usually wear a black belt of width of about 4 inches. She is not very tall, and has medium-sized breasts. Treat her right, and you are sure to have a great session with her! Jana told me that she took a break of several months from mongering in her home town (I know where she lives in Slowakia), but that then she realized that FKKW was her second home, and she could not live without the rush. Hmm, her and me makes two.

I had to leave for a business dinner at 8, but was back at 11. All of the big 3 allow re-entry free of charge, if you tell them that you will be back later in the evening.

I had a very nice chat with the bodybuilding bargirl Francesca (at least I think that this is her name). We talked about skiing in Europe and the US. I really like this girl.

Oh well, time for another round. I had wanted to give Olga a ride, but learned to my disappointment that she had already left. Well then, how about Daniela. She never disappoints. She had forgotten my name and that she had sessioned wiht me a good year ago. But I described the occasion to her, and then she remembered. (Or perhaps she just pretended to remember; one never knows. And you cannot expect her to remember everybody ... she is a really busy girl.)

At around 1 am I decided on my last session for the night. Time to stray from the proven favs and try something new. Irina from Russian caught my eye. Redish-brown shoulder lenght hair, dark tan, tall, a body shape not unlike Olga's.

I was sitting on an upstairs sofa, and she walked into the room. I checked out her curves, and she noticed. Eye contact across the room, smiles, a little head motion to signal her to come over to my sofa. She strolled across the room, unfolded a towel on my sofa and sat down next to me. As I saw her divine body with very pretty face walk towards me I pondered how much I LOVE the fkk way! Introductions, small talk, a little DFK, I already like this girl. She suggested to go down to the lower level and sit on the same sofa that I previously sat on with Jana. Excellent! A superb BBBJ follows. She really got into it and would have continued for a long time. But some other guy came over and parked himself on the sofa right next to us and ogled. She became uncomfortable with this and suggested we move to a room.

In the room we continued where we left off. She clearly tried to suck me to completion right away; I let her go on for a while. After five minutes of this vigorous (and very enjoable, I might add) activitiy, she realized that the 100 euros would not come to her that easy. So she tried to upsell me for 1 hour. I said maybe; let's see how it goes. Usually attempts to upsell in the room really annoy me, but somehow not this time. Possibly because I think that this girl is incredibly sexy, and because I enjoyed her additional efforts to generate more business. Having this sex goddess beg for more sex from me in her silky-soft bedroom voice just felt good!

So we went into 15 minutes of fairly aerobic sex. If all you do is pump, 15 minutes are a very long time. We had to switch positions several times, taking turns in taking the lead. We both got very sweaty, just the way I like it.

She begged me to let her suck me to completion. Even though she clearly had the dineros in mind, she managed to make it sound like she really wanted to do this for her own pleasure. Let's face it, I like to buy the illusion; so I went for it. Interestingly, she positioned herself so that it was easy for me to finger her while she sucked me off. Her hips moved invitingly, and so I complied. First one, then two, then four fingers. Her lower body was humping my fingers, but her mouth never left little euro.

She came in the process, and the sights and sounds of this then made me fill her mouth nicely. Mission accomplished! The stopwatch on my wrist was at 27 minutes by that time. So I decided to skip the afterglow chitchat and head for the lockers. 100 euro well-spent!

All of my sessions were really worth it, in particular the ones with Jana and Irina. Irina got promoted into my top-10 all time, Jana was already there. Incidentally, my top-10 all time are getting really crowded now, with about 30 girls occupiing the 10 spots. What can you expect, though, when little euro is doing the math :)?

cheers
euro

Optimist
04-11-06, 08:36
Euro. Glad you had a good time. Irina can give good service but only if the client is experienced in how to make a good session and how to make it last. Given the choice she tends to try to finish a session within ten minutes. Her usual companion is Inessa - enough said.

Marlow
04-11-06, 11:58
Euro100
A bodybuilding bar girl called Francesca.

Now that is interesting. I wonder if this can be the same Francesca who worked in the Mainz area?Long dark hair, body by Jake (for those of you who remember him), Italian, probably in her thirties? if this is her then she worked regularly in Mainz around '99-2002. Did disco dancing work as well and went to the States for a time to work in lap top clubs.

Nick The G
04-11-06, 19:19
Euro100

A bodybuilding bar girl called Francesca. Now that is interesting. I wonder if this can be the same Francesca who worked in the Mainz area?Long dark hair, body by Jake (for those of you who remember him), Italian, probably in her thirties? if this is her then she worked regularly in Mainz around '99-2002. ....Well, yes, she's the one! :)

I never met her in Mainz, only in Pohlheim.

If you want to see some photos of her, here is a link I found in the german ”Roemerforum”, posted by a guy named ”Porschi”:

http://home.debitel.net/user/6/alexandra.htm
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BottySpanker
04-12-06, 20:47
Well, yes, she's the one! :)

I never met her in Mainz, only in Pohlheim.

If you want to see some photos of her, here is a link I found in the german ”Roemerforum”, posted by a guy named ”Porschi”:

http://home.debitel.net/user/6/alexandra.htm
__________________She scares and excites at the same time.

Anyone have a report?

Euro100
04-13-06, 00:51
Yep, that's Francesca, no doubt.

Right now she is not nearly as chisseled as in these pictures. I guess that she is between competitions.

euro

Matteo 77
04-13-06, 13:08
i will post later my rep about the last trip to world,

i've a question i heard that the same management own a club near Hanau, is it correct ? if so which club is it ?

Dedalus
04-15-06, 10:06
Fred and Ded at World. April 8,

This will be a short one, as I am on my way to Frankfurt’s FKK paradise soon, but I do owe everyone an update from last week.

Things do seem to be looking up for the Frankfurt club-ring. Even the woefully out of step Palace is getting some acceptable reviews now. Fred’s Saturday review of the World situation was enough to convince me to forego the drive to Golden Time and check out the Worldly scene. This turned out to be a good call. Fred had me pretty excited with tales (tails) of hot Spanish mamasitas, Czech beauties, Romanian lovelies, etc.

Picked the Fredster up at the Monopol and made the journey to Pohlheim, arriving at 3:00 PM. Not a full parking lot but a huge Hummer caught both of our attentions. I was calculating in my head how many sessions one could pay for in comparison to filling that monster up with Super.

Inside looked pretty promising, especially for a Sunday afternoon. After showering and downing robes, Fred and I met at the bar for the first drink of the day. Almost immediately we saw a cute, dark-haired lovely who was full of smiles walk by. I asked if this was one of the talents from the previous evening but Fred did not know her. She sat close to us and we all exchanged names. Then, still smiling she left for the couch by the Kino.
Normally I wait for 30 minutes or so before engaging in coital splendor, but both Fred and I agreed that one of us should do a little research, so I willingly volunteered. Her name is BIANCA from Bulgaria and it was her first day. She is normally at GT but is trying out World for a short time. She was a hit in the room and covered all the bases that a top-act normally does. If she stays at World, then it will be a plus for the Frankfurt scene. Of particular note: In addition to a charming, and continuous smile, she sucks dick like a monkey handles bananas.

name: Bianca
hair: Brown
size: ~ 1,60 m
figure: slender, C Breasts, great figure!,
origin: Bulgaria
born: ~ 1983?
service: bbbj, GFE, kissing
location: FKK World for the moment, form. Golden Time

After the session I saw Fred in the locker room. He had already made a Bianca reservation and was asking my opinions.

The evening crew was starting to trickle in. Daniela arrived, looking as fine as good ole’ Beffen informed me. Katharina was about. Magda was looking doleful. Anka was as well. Olga from Latvia was looking rather tasty as was Adrienne (“Dollar tattoo on the ass” girl. Jacqueline was dancing about with Chantal. No sign of Olga (Russia) or this new, hot find Alicia that I am hearing so much about. No Edith and no blonde wonder.
Fred did point out a very cute girl named Paola who is high on the to-do list and Nikki. Also a rather attractive blonde sporting some intense D-cups was bouncing about.

After a short break and I hit the upstairs to lounge about and do some girl watching. I was staring at Anka thinking what ashamed that such an attractive girl is such a bad session, when DANIELA blind-sided me we hellos and kisses. She has indeed dropped a few Kilos and looks pretty hot. Also she had just arrived so some of the other negative issues regarding her would not be a factor if I did a session right then. I was stealthily staring at Adrienne and trying to decide whether to tell Daniela that I would meet her later or seize the moment. Well, I am weak and decided to do two miles through brush and timber with Daniela; a decision I did not regret. She is still fabulous and she was fresh as a daisy. She was even out of the mind-game zone so we were able to avoid that as well. This might have been different later in the day.

After the Daniela marathon, a long rest was needed but it did give me the chance to observe the Paola, Paula, Nikki, etc. group. Apparently many of them are imports from the Austrian club scene and are trying Germany out for a short time. Paola is a prize! Petite, cute, and with very sexy moves. She was hanging out with the Romanian crowd for a bit so that may be her origin, but I cannot say for sure. I got some nice winks from Adrienne and was thinking that she would be my next session. Fred was swearing by Nikki, or was it Laura. Maybe it was both. We both had a nice talk with a German girl whose figure had attracted both of our attentions earlier. Her name escapes me but Fred was compelled enough to do a session and gave her very high marks. She also belongs to this Austrian group.

The finale of the evening turned out to be the Blonde with the bouncing D’s. Both Fred and I were sitting in the dining area making eyes at this girl when Fred announced that he was coming back in 2 minutes and if I did not take her away, then he would. I thought about it and decided that there would be enough time for both of us to climb those hills. When he returned, I graciously offered the first bite to him.

Her name is SAMANTHA and she is quite charming. She is also quite flexible as I would later discover. When Fred finished his session and was still grinning, I started to lay in wait. She seemed to be expecting me and we strolled away to the VIP room. Samantha, who is from Hungary also belongs to the Austria cast and is quite a find. Who knows how long any of these girls will be in Polheim, but they do make a nice addition. Samantha was such the right way to cap off the night. It is easy to be bewitched by her big ole’ boobs, but her leg and lower body flexibility was pleasantly surprising. Definitely worth a repeat!

name: Samantha
hair: Blonde
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: D Breasts, also very nice Legs, quite well proportioned!
origin: Hungary
born: ~ 1978?
service: bbbj, PSE-GFE
location: FKK World, for now.
A great time was had by all and it is good to report that Frankfurt seems to be on the mend. As a side note for those of you who know my big weakness, I managed to spend 12 hours in an FKK without engaging in this terrible practice even once. Big step for me!

Cheers all,

Dedalus, der hoffentlich jetzt Raucherfrei ist

Marlow
04-15-06, 13:28
I nearly had the pleasure once, but after reading a report on her that was Ok but no rave review and her price was 200 for the hour I decided not to come out of my corner. However from the emails we exchanged I have the definite impression that she is very charming. The thought of mat time with a true hardbody still has my juices flowing and I hope she's around at the end of the month when I will have time to visit World so that I can see what I am missing!

Breadman
04-16-06, 14:54
What day is Fasching held? I plan on visiting this club and would prefer to avoid this night of 'cover up' if possible.

I can visit Oase and World on either a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday...any suggestions on what days listed above would be the best time to visit these clubs?

Beffen1
04-16-06, 15:46
What day is Fasching held? I plan on visiting this club and would prefer to avoid this night of 'cover up' if possible.

I can visit Oase and World on either a Wednesday, Thursday or Friday...any suggestions on what days listed above would be the best time to visit these clubs?

Breadman,

Actually, Fasching is a once a year party at World. The weekly lingerie night is called dessous and it is Tuesday at World and Thursday at Oase.

beffen

Wanking
04-16-06, 16:58
I much prefer dessous Day in the FKK clubs, cos many girls will have skirts on and no underwear , and DAT is so facking SEXY mate. You can start talking to them, and run your hand up their legs.... when I the discover no knickers I get such a rock hard horn !!!!!

Henio
04-16-06, 20:31
Had plans to meet up with Dedalus and ST sometime over the weekend, but as I was the first to arrive, I went alone to World.

Arrived around 18:00. In attendance were few of the regular girls as well as lot of new faces. Girl/guy ratio was ok, about 40 girls and 30 guys. Couple of hours later it was even better, but started to decline pretty fast after 21:00. All in all a pretty decent selection.

Of the regulars I recognised were Betty, Daniela, Olga, Anka, Daisy and then a few faces I recognise but don’t remember names of. Daniela was like the energizing bunny around the floor as usual, not as busy as she sometimes is, but still seemed able to pull a guy whenever she felt like.

One thing I noticed was the absence of dark skinned girls. Did not notice any during my stay. Quite unusual for World as there have always been at least 2 or 3 in attendance when I have visited.

First session was with Daisy from Bulgaria. She noticed me when I entered the lockerroom fully clothed and she was receiving payment from a customer. She walked up to me and asked if I was coming or leaving. I told her I just arrived. She smiled and walked away to freshen up after her session. When I entered the main room, she was stalking me and sat her butt right next to me after I had fetched a drink. She did all the right things while seated with me so I took her to a room. Time for the power struggle as she wanted to dictate the session but I would have none of that. I always have fun doing the power struggle thing and as so often, I eventually got the upper hand (or at least I think so, but WTF, I am the one paying). Ended up doing one hour session. All in all a pretty decent one, but would probably not repeat. One funny thing was that she had a little problem with kissing after I had given her DATY (no problems before). Guess she does not like her own taste.

After the session and shower, I walk up to the bar for a Coke, and I look to my right and see a blond with a 4 inch thick belt thing around her waist. Bingo, I suddenly remember Euro100 description of Jana. For the last 10-12 months or so I have been trying to identify Jana without success (Andrea even showed me a picture of her last spring to help me find her next time). Thanks to Euro100 for a great description.

Now the dilemma: Here is the girl I have been looking for the last 10 months. She is free, she is kissing my body and DFK’ing me at the bar, and I just came from a pretty intensive one hour session 3 minutes ago. What to do, what to do? Hell, I took her to the kino for a warm-up and what then followed was 90 minutes of great stuff. Took the first 20 minutes to get my strength back. Jana did her best to help me with that, touching all the right places. No power struggle here, Jana is as accommodating as it can be. Great session and Jana is now on Chivaz’s recommendation list. Ended the session with a distance shooting porn movie style CIM. Really do not do the CIM thing much as it does not do much for me (like better finish during intercourse) but this was a special occasion.

Jana is not one of the hardbody style and could loose a couple of kilos, but she is still a very sexy kind of a woman and her sultry voice is very nice.

It’s only 21:00 and I have done back to back long sessions without any real rest in between so it was a time for some rest. Walked downstaires and watched some soccer. A girl approaches the guy sitting next to me and he replys in English. We started talking and as it turns out he is a lurker on the boards. For the rest of the report I will refer to him as Joe.

Joe and I had a nice chat and it turned out that he was staying very close to my hotel so I gave him a lift back. He was going to GT the next day. I gave him my phonenumber if he would like to see if our plans would overlap on Saturday.

Before we left World, I had a 90 minutes long session with Anka. Now, before you start shouting out "what the fuck man, are you nuts" I must declare that the sessions I had with Anka (I did two extended sessions with her on Saturday as well) are some of the most pleasurable and rewarding session I have ever had in FKK. Yes, she is moody and difficult to start with and yes, she would do a lot better business if she would smile more in the main room and alter her body language. You may not be getting the most energetic girl, no loud fake moans or stuff like that. Instead you will get a pretty intelligent girl who seems to have a hard time putting on a show for you. It seems that she is not able to create a special "FKK character". You get her as she really is. The session I had with her was just flat out great. I really do like her and was able to build up a great chemistry with her. She is a challenge and you will have to take your own chances with her, but there is a small pot of gold at each milestone you reach with her. Will most definetly repeat with her. She was the highlight of the night, when she smiles there is not a more beautiful girl in the place.

As I had done three long sessions over the course of 6 hours, I decided to end the night on a high note and left around midnight. Oase was to be visited on good Friday.

Chivaz

Henio
04-16-06, 23:59
I had some business to attend to in Frankfurt morning and early afternoon which I hoped to finish in time to get to either World or Oase before the evening. Called Dedalus and we synched our plans. We were gonna hit World in the afternoon and then leave it open for double clubbing to Oase if needed. It sounded pretty good and I texted Ortos and he agreed it was a good plan.

At 1 pm Joe calls me and asks what the plan is and I tell him and we agree I pick him up after I finish my other stuff I needed to do. At 2:30pm I picked Joe up at the Excelsior and we headed to World. Stopped at Rasthauf Wetterau to load up on some Red Bull and visit the ATM. Called Dedalus. He was just arriving in Frankfurt so he would be aprox. 1 hour behind us.

Joe and I arrived at World at 4pm. Very few cars parked and I got a good spot very close to the entrance. Joe had a worried expression. With so few guests would the selection reflect on the number of guests? We entered the club and as soon as we entered the main area, all worries dissapeared. Selection was already very good and improved throughout the afternoon into the evening. Even at midnight, it was still excellent. The atmosphere throughout the night had a good buzz to it that I seldom experience at World as I find the place often rather boring. Not this night. Good company of Dedalus, ST and Joe as well as fun conversation with some other guests probably affect my experience as well.

Joe and I sat at the bar and Janette came to us. She had done session(s) with Joe and was obviously happy to see him. What followed was a 45 minute story from her about the adventures and misfortunes of her porky pine. Every now and then she would have problems finding the right words in English so she would grab the next person closest to her for translation. Eventually one of the staff just stood behind the bar and translated the story bit by bit to us although we had gotten all the main points of it already. Turns out that her porky pine had been hit by a car but survived and was now beeing taken care of by her grandmother. Although somewhat a sad story, both I and Joe could not help but laugh most of the time as Janette was quite theatrecal in her description of the whole thing as she was trying to explain the thing without the vocabulary needed for this drama.

When Dedalus arrived, Janette had to tell the whole story again, but this time she was able to do so in her own language so it did not take as long this time. Janette seems like a very nice girl, bubbly personality and I might have sessioned with her some other time. This time I was set to do a repeat session with Anka. Joe however was obviously touched by the porky pine misfortunes ;-) and did take her to a room.

I had an excellent session with Anka and after the session sat down for some dinner. At this time Ortos had arrived and Dedalus introduced us. Hey man, it was great to finally meet you and hope you have a nice time for the rest of your stay.

Every now and then throughout the evening I would spent a little time here and there with Anka exchanging pleasantries and a little petting. Ended up doing another extended session with her. Every session with her was something new and different.

The third session for the night was with a Thai girl with an enhanced bust calles June. She just arrived from a privat in Dusseldorf few days ago. Very nice girl who knows what she is doing, but might not stay for long as she seems to like the privat scene better than the FKK scene (said she did not like to have to "pick up" the customer). Ortos had a session with her as well and I leave it to him to describe his view on her. Recommended girl in my book.

At 2 am, it was starting to thin out in terms of selection and Ortos decided to call it a night, and soon after that Dedalus left and Joe got a ride back to Frankfurt with him. I had a session left in me and as I would be leaving tomorrow around noon and probably not returning for Frankfurt for a very long time, I decided to hang out a little longer.

Dedalus had earlier pointed out Samantha (and done a session with her as well) and I decided to go with her. Samantha is from Hungary, is short with enhanced DD cup. I was getting a bit tired and not really in the mood for a GFE kind of a thing so I had her take care of the session. Started out with a pretty good massage from her followed by the usual suck and fuck. Her stretching while in missionay however is a fun sight. In retrospect, I think my rating of her at this point in time might not be fair as it was rather my own energy level that dictated the session rather than her performance ability.

For the first time in my FKK adventures I felt the need to say goodby to a girl before I left. Looked around for Anka as she said she would be there until closing, but she was probably in room or had left already. Around 4:15 I see this dark complexion girl in a dark area of the main room. She looked exotic from a distance so I decided what the hell, why not have one for the road.

Huge mistake. She is Nora from Bulgaria, does not speak a word in English and not a word in German. As soon as I was able to see her in a better light all kind of problems appeared. She has serious skin problems and pretty bad teeth. Still somehow she had some strange appeal to her so I decided to stand by my decision (Ded, you are probably right, I do seek trouble).

Another Bulgarian girl translated the deal and off we went (It might even be possible that this was one of the first sessions this girl does). When in the room, all kinds of new problems. First of all her breath stinked so there was no way in hell I wanted to kiss her. She started the bbbj which was amateurish so as soon as I got hard, I told her to get the condom. She tried to do it with her mouth and did ok for about third of the way. She could not finish the task with her hands and finally I gave up waiting and put the damn thing on myself. Started in cowgirl but soon went for doggy as I wanted to get this thing over with as soon as possible. Ouch, her bottom and back was covered in pretty bad pimples. As soon as I started banging her from behind this awful smell appeared to the point I was gagging. That was it for me. For the first time in my life I faked an orgasm. Why did I do that. Well, I felt really sorry for the girl. Somehow I felt she was in a situation totally out of her own control.

The smell was still in my nose when I returned to my hotel about 1 hour later. Although not the happiest ending, the great sessions I had this trip totally overshadow one lousy session. I will soon forget the bad smell from Nora's pussy but will remember the great time I had with Anka for a long time to come.

Chivaz

Euro100
04-17-06, 04:53
After the session and shower, I walk up to the bar for a Coke, and I look to my right and see a blond with a 4 inch thick belt thing around her waist. Bingo, I suddenly remember Euro100 description of Jana. For the last 10-12 months or so I have been trying to identify Jana without success (Andrea even showed me a picture of her last spring to help me find her next time). Thanks to Euro100 for a great description.

...

Jana is not one of the hardbody style and could loose a couple of kilos, but she is still a very sexy kind of a woman and her sultry voice is very nice.

Chivaz,

I am glad you liked Jana. She is one of my favorites, gives just great service.

BTW, Jana was away for a few months (in connection with the Andrea disappearance, which was a disaster). So this explains about 6 out of the 8-10 months of lack of succes in finding her at FKKW. But I think that Jana is now back for a good long time. She told me that she missed FKKW too much to stay away ...

Cheers
euro

Captain America
04-19-06, 04:34
Guys, is it true they have overnight rooms? I'm flying in on friday and have to continue on saturday, so I'm think "all-world" would be nice. not having to go back to a hotel would be even nicer...

Dedalus
04-19-06, 11:27
Guys, is it true they have overnight rooms? I'm flying in on friday and have to continue on saturday, so I'm think "all-world" would be nice. not having to go back to a hotel would be even nicer...

I seem to remember someone posting that you could get one of the rooms for 100 Euros, however you have to wait till the club closes and vacate when they start getting ready to open. Not such a good deal.

You might consider just "closing the club" and take a nap in the various places where this is possible. You will have to leave at 5 AM and then you can head for the airport.

If you do need a hotel then there are a few possibilities in the area, all of which have been listed on this thread.

Have fun,

Dedalus

Patricklim1234
04-19-06, 22:18
World

<Insert usual disclaimer stating to each his own and my taste may not coincide with yours. I ask for everyone's understanding as these reports are my first, along with the fact that it was my first time in Germany / FKK-Club. Keep in mind also that this is just a report of my experiences, it may not coincide with yours, and I do not make any guarentee whatsoever>

For an overall comparison and a conclusion, please refer to my post under the General Info Section

Un-sex things

Unlike many others, I chose to use public transportation to get to FKK-World. I did not want to be faced with an exhausting 1hr drive around the frankfurt area to and from each club, along with the risk of getting lost etc. From the main train station, I bought a ticket to Geissen for 23.80 euros (two-way) for a 40min ride. Then after exiting Geissen Train Station I took a taxi to FKK-World, roughly 15mins for 18-19euros.

I arrived at the club at roughly 4pm in the afternoon. Not realising it was a long weekend for Germany, I was surprised to see a lot of cars at the car park. The taxi brought me all the way into the front porch of the club and I went right in, (no bell whatsoever). When paying the 65Euro entrance fee, the receptionist asked whether it was my first time at the club, I said yes and received some short instructions on the layout of the club, as well as some standard fees for the girls.

After the reception area, you get right into the changing room, one key for two lockers, a big locker to store your clothes and a smaller one to keep your wallet for easy access. I was anxious to check out the girls, so I stripped, took a quick shower and stepped into the main lounge.

Being new to the place, I thought I would walk around the place to get used to it. There are 4 plasma TVs (showing porn) in the middle of the main lounge and this is where most of the girls hang out. Past the lounge to the right is the Kino (cinema) where you can lie down and watch more porn. The girls were basically sitting around on the sofas not doing much. To the left of the lounge is the dining area. It is a buffet style and you just grab a plate, pick what food you want, sit down at the huge table and eat away. Food wasn't anything 5-class, but decent.

To the back you have a couple rooms where you can get on with the girls in a more private environment. Heading downstairs you'll pass by a few more rooms before finding yourself in the pool area. People do use the pool surprisingly, didn't see any of the girls use it though. Guests were hanging around on the long pool chairs or chilling in the whirlpool just beside the pool. Past the pool you'll reach the "sports area". Not too sure what they call the place officially, but they have a plasma TV dedicated to show sports. When I was there they were showing german league soccer, I wouldn't expect anything else other than soccer really, it is a very popular sport in Europe. After the sports area you find some saunas.

The weather was kind of cold still so there wasn't many people outside, neither did I bother to venture out dressed in just a towel wrapped around my waist. It wasn't long before I went out to hunt for some girls, details in the "sex things" catefory.

I don't really have much to say after it was all done, I wanted to end the day with a bang after my threesome session. I left the club at around 8pm and took the 40min train back to Frankfurt main station. When I left the club, the number of men outnumbered the women by roughly 2.5men:1woman.

Sex Things

The girls I found to be on an average of 6-8, with 1 or 2 maybe 9s. My taste is the typical tall blond untanned kind of girl, which is your typical russian as I subsequently found out. The girls would basically be hanging around the lounge as I slowly took my time to pick one out.

Peggy (sp)

Nationality: Didn't ask
Looks: 7/10
Height: ~1.70m
Sex: 6/10
English: Limited english, but able to understand instructions.
She was just done collecting her 50 euros from her previous customer when I stopped her. I talked with her a bit and told her to come look for me after her shower. From far she looked pretty good but close up she wasn't as good looking as I thought. Nevertheless she was a good "appetizer" for the entire trip, nothing too impressive.

Olga / Adrienne (sp)

Nationality: Russian / Didn't ask
Looks: 9.5/10 / 8/10
Height: ~1.80m / ~1.76m
Sex: 9.5/10
English: Olga was doing most of the talking, so I think it is safe to assumer her English is better, very good english, was able to seduce me, so you can safely assume that I understood most of what she said.

To be honest I wanted to save for the threesome till 1-2 days later when I had more experience in the FKK scene. But these two almost practically seduced me into the room, and I was very impressed. I was very aware that threesomes are a simply fantasy for many men, including me. And be aware that when fucking one girl, the other girl doesn't really have much to do. Nevertheless, a huge fantasy of mine was to be kissing on girl while being sucked on. The two did a lot of teasing in bed and were in control most of the time. It suited me well because I've always liked it when it seems that the girl(s) wants it more than me. It was simply amazing with the two of them. To be honest, Adrienne seemed to be the extra as I was pretty much just interested in Olga actually. I placed a lot of focus on Olga, and actually only ended up fucking her. Adrienne did not waste much time by sucking me and feeling me up. After one shot the two tried to get me for a second, but after the long journey to Frankfurt, along with the first shot earlier on, I was exhausted.

Whitey2
04-27-06, 06:18
Shiatsu & Cordelia: I wish I could make it to Germany while you're there this time, but I just can't get the time off from work.

Cordelia will be at World for the next ten days or so, and Shiatsu will be there on 4/30 and 5/1. For those of you who haven't yet met these two, they are great fun. So much so that I spent almost all of my World encounters with Cordelia when I was there last December (and I had a 5-day card). This is a gorgeous woman with a great personality who REALLY likes sex. Three for three. A+.

I've also gone with them on trips to Partytreff Hasslinghausen and Beverly. Believe me, they know how to party.

Optimist
05-02-06, 20:45
Spent two days at World. I had a long list of other clubs to visit but as so often I got ensnared at World.

The first day was a Party Day, which is my idea of hell on earth normally. But the selection of girls was so wide (in some cases literally) that I stayed. There were around 50 girls and,I would guess, on average about 40 rather inactive men. Lots of “look – look “ men. “guck’ mal”. So the girls in general weren’t at their most cheerful. As is usual with parties many of the regular girls seemed not to be there. But there were loads of new girls. There were tall ones, thin ones, fat ones, short ones, enhanced breasts, no breasts (almost) etc etc. The tendency of World to be a bit of a monoculture seems to be in the past (although judging by facial structure there are more Rumanians than perhaps admit to it)

Many of the old regulars turned up the following day. Some of those who are there are Anka, Camilla, Stella, Martha, Sharon, Jana and Cordelia. No Anna Maria, Magda, Steffi, Claudia, Olga, Ines, Irena

Why do I hate the parties – there is secondrate pole dancing by paid performers to unimaginative over loud music. This would be fine except that it kills the place stone dead while everybody watches. (although the fire breathing caught my attention – judging my the heat from 4 metres away it must have been real petrol???) And the ultimate suffering – they removed the tea bags and hot water flasks!!.

And the food – well, they put a lot of effort into a spread of cold meats and cocktail sticks. But if you didn’t like meat and dairy products you were in trouble. Like flying Lufthansa (which by the way is offering return flights to Frankfurt from UK for £70 or less)

And what other miseries – as always I failed to win a prize on the Sunday Glucksrad as I entered, and I wondered how much money must the club be making in order to pay for the prizes on the forthcoming 3rd anniversary. Mmm – three years of my life revolving around Pohlheim

Oh – and the tendency for less and less couch action in the main room gets stronger and stronger (although there is still a fair bit downstairs – but not by the newer girls)

So why did I stay? Well, it is a spotlessly clean club. And you get told off if you have bad habits, like parking your betowelled posterior on a glass table.

The bar staff and entrance staff are unfailingly nice (provided you don’t indulge in any of the unsanitary habits which some of the male guests do…)

And the selection of girls was very good. Which is what counts. For the first time ever in a club I had a short list of half a dozen I was interested in. By a series of misfortunes I only got round to two of them – and neither disappointed.

First there was Alicia, who claims to be from Spain (which may or may not be the case). She is slim, has long legs, enhanced breasts, straight fine black hair. And a strange pick up technique. She tends to sit down near a man and indulge in desultory conversation, which can peter out completely. She might appear a bit sullen or uninterested but this is a false impression. I went to a room with her and she started off the session in a very unusual way , standing me up with my back to the wall, and gradually going into a very professional session. What really surprised me was when she started pulling my hair!!!. I talked to her about this afterwards and she explained that she tries to adapt her self to whatever she thinks the man might want. She does not kiss, but I would still give her a very very high recommendation. Later in the evening she came again to talk to me about various things whilst relaxing by the pool – this is something which almost never happens in the club any more but which was most welcome to me. She is very attentive to what you say - she will feed it back to you later (part of the professional skills). Reminds me of the news story explaining a retraining programme in NordRheinWeshalia for prostitutes - for them to be nurses because they are good at looking after people

Then there was Jana who I had many sessions with. Spot her by the “Are You Being Served” Mr Humphries walk and the thick leather black belt round her midriff. As others have reported she is not an obvious “looker” but she is a lovely person who is good at sex, enjoys the work very much, and is capable of having a perceptive and intelligent conversation. She is honest and straightforward - no holds barred genuine sex. Very few and far between like that - possibly only one other worker like that currently in the club. And one of the few remaining workers who are not shy about public foreplay downstairs) So few words about a very nice worker. I can recommend her as an excellent worker – it seems that all the Czech girls from last year were all excellent (apart from one). Emigration by me to the Czech Republic seems to be a good option .

In my book finding two such good workers, of such different types, was like a seam of gold. And that left at least another four I was interested in.

By the way, I can confirm the reports of other members that Anka, whilst appearing initially offputting, is, once she engages, meltingly soft – I had to give her a message and she was delightful. I notice she often likes to spend a lot of time talking and cuddling and doesn’t try to process like a machine.

Dedalus
05-02-06, 23:22
First there was Alicia, who claims to be from Spain (which may or may not be the case). She is slim, has long legs, enhanced breasts, straight fine black hair.


Hey Shiatsu,

This is the one that I am dying to meet. I have heard many really good things about her on the German boards. I hope to see her either Wednesday or this weekend when I meet up with Fred.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who loves Spain and its treasures

Mike De H
05-02-06, 23:37
Spent two days at World. I had a long list of other clubs to visit but as so often I got ensnared at World.

By the way, I can confirm the reports of other members that Anka, whilst appearing initially offputting, is, once she engages, meltingly soft – I had to give her a message and she was delightful. I notice she often likes to spend a lot of time talking and cuddling and doesn’t try to process like a machine.

Firstly, cant believe I missed you guys this weekend. I drove from England to Golden Time in NRW, but when I cheked on the effect drivers fatigue is having upon me these days, I had to cancel my plan for World domination, otherwise I would have said hello.

Glad the place seems good, but to tell you the truth I a having such good sessions, couch action, spa action, good pices and friendly service at GT (and now mongering in Dubai) its getting really hard to get down to Frankfurt.

I will try and check out those Lufthansa fares too. That looks great.

With respect to Ankah, thats two respected reporters now saying the session is good. I always fancied her, but somehow I backed off.

Recently, seeing Fusco's face comming out of the room after a disasterous session with her, where she blubbed constantly for 45 minutes and abused him for 15 minutes, warned me off. Plus Beffen backing him up saying how she used the paid time to dump all her problems on him had an effect too. I pissed myself laughing at the conversation: Anka:"I have to pay for two flats including my old boyfriend's flat"; Beffen: "Boyfriend spelled P - I - M - P ".

Thing is Shatsu, I really would try it, but the chance of having her on a bad day and getting a wipe-out just puts me off. But you have to speculate to accumulate don't you.

Ah well, dont want to dwell too much on this one, except to say I am glad she can give a good session. I am also hoping to rediscover FKK World again. Maybe Lufthansa will give me the chance.

Thanks for a great report.

Euro100
05-03-06, 00:00
Then there was Jana who I had many sessions with. Spot her by the “Are You Being Served” Mr Humphries walk and the thick leather black belt round her midriff. As others have reported she is not an obvious “looker” but she is a lovely person who is good at sex, enjoys the work very much, and is capable of having a perceptive and intelligent conversation. She is honest and straightforward - no holds barred genuine sex. Very few and far between like that - possibly only one other worker like that currently in the club. And one of the few remaining workers who are not shy about public foreplay downstairs) So few words about a very nice worker. I can recommend her as an excellent worker – it seems that all the Czech girls from last year were all excellent (apart from one). Emigration by me to the Czech Republic seems to be a good option.

I completely agree with your performance evaluation of Jana. She is great at the core business of the FKK scene. I seem to just click with her, and this is obviusly much more her doing than mine. And, actually, I happen to think that she is a "looker". When she puts up her hair, I don't know, it just does it for me.

By the way, she is from Slovakia, not the Czech Republic.

cheers
euro

Henio
05-03-06, 00:17
... And, actually, I happen to think that she is a "looker". When she puts up her hair, I don't know, it just does it for me.
euro
I second the opinion of Jana, great performer and sexy and pretty face. I think what Shiatsu refers to her not being the obvious looker is that her body shows that she is not in the 21-23 year old category as so many of them are. Still a damn sexy lady for my money.
She also has this kind of relaxing "behaviour" that puts you immediatly at ease with her, a great quality that not too many girls have.

Chivaz

Optimist
05-03-06, 08:09
Euro/Chivaz - Yes - Jana was born in Slovakia, but her domestic arrangements led me to consider her now from Prague - depends how you look at it. When I said she is not a "looker" I mean in the conventional "model" sense - generally such "lookers" are worth avoiding. Jana is great - if a guest does not particularly like how she looks I suggest that he might still try her if he wants good service. The older girls are more likely to give excellent service.

Dedalus - Alicia - I am not convinced she is from Spain!! (Any more than non-Helga's provenance is known to clients!!). I had a great time. I hope you have a good time. Tell her I recommended her (the Englishman). I checked with her that she was happy for me to write on the internet

Mike. Sorry to miss you but GT sounds like good fun. As for Anka - I think it is probably a pot luck. It looks to me that you need a good day, a skilful ear, patience, but sometimes she can be lovely. Definitely risky to drive from England for her. The Lufthansa cheap fares are not available around the World Cup time

You are right to doubt the sob stories - there are a few girls who definitely go round telling lies (Anka may be telling the truth I don't know) in order to get more money from men. And surprisingly it works!! And they will try to stop men going with their regulars by telling lies about the men's regular women. There are very very few like this but they are poison.

Optimist
05-03-06, 11:25
One thing I always mean to mention the choice of music. Most of it is in English but I think there is little thought about the words. For example, this time "Hotel California" was played - the style was a welcome change from the norm - but halfway through the song I saw a group of girls in hysterics. I asked what the joke was - and it was pointed out to me that the words of the song were very appropriate for FKKs. This was funny and illuminating - the girls' grasp of English is sometimes brilliant, and it shows how they see the work. The same day I heard elsewhere another girl call FKKs "devil's circus"

And of course, "It's Raining Men" can never be the same again. I always think of it as the FKK girl's morning prayer...

Don't get me wrong - I am not knocking FKKs. Some of the girls love FKK - one girls told me she preferred it to home - she says where else could she earn money, be free, and enjoy herself. (Of course there are other girls with bad pimps etc etc)

Dedalus
05-08-06, 04:39
Hey Gents,

A wonderful weekend at World and Oase is at an end and I promise to do some thorough reporting soon.

One important note: I finally was able to enjoy quality time(s) with the fair maiden from Spain, Alicia, at World this past Saturday. I am both amazed (actually thunderstruck!!!) by her talents and disappointed that this is probably her last week in Germany. She may stay 2 weeks but is leaning toward leaving at the end of this one. For those who are interested, then you better catch a glimpse of her while the catching is good.

Cheers all,

Dedalus, who is considering a relocation to Espania and Spanish lessons to boot!!!

Optimist
05-08-06, 10:06
Dedalus.

This para is from Shiatsu - I am glad you found what you wre looking for. I was a bit worried that my taste might have been too idiosyncratic. Thunderstruck is exactly how I would have described Alicia if I had thought of it. Shame she is going - I had been hoping that if I went back in May I might see her

From Cordelia - thank you for the support and chat on Saturday. I was a bit overwrought and exhausted, having had a really good day the day before. All difficulties were (fairly) quickly sorted out once I spoke to Shiatsu. Having to wait for a dawn flight home did not help! I might post some of the things we discussed about "How to be a good guest"

Shiatsu and Cordelia

Dedalus
05-08-06, 11:45
Dedalus.

This para is from Shiatsu - I am glad you found what you wre looking for. I was a bit worried that my taste might have been too idiosyncratic. Thunderstruck is exactly how I would have described Alicia if I had thought of it. Shame she is going - I had been hoping that if I went back in May I might see her

From Cordelia - thank you for the support and chat on Saturday. I was a bit overwrought and exhausted, having had a really good day the day before. All difficulties were (fairly) quickly sorted out once I spoke to Shiatsu. Having to wait for a dawn flight home did not help! I might post some of the things we discussed about "How to be a good guest"

Shiatsu and Cordelia

Many thanks to you both for helping me pinpoint this one! Also I am glad and very relieved that all is well.

A "Guide to Being a Good Guest" is a grand idea and probably much needed. After our chat, I am even more convinced that this is so.

Many cheers and many more best wishes,

Dedalus

Euro100
05-08-06, 19:23
I might post some of the things we discussed about "How to be a good guest"

Cordelia,

Many of us would love to read this. Please go ahead and post it.

Thanks in advance
euro

P.S.: I'll have anothe romp at FKKW coming up in one week from today, and I am hoping to finally meet you then.

Euro100
05-08-06, 19:26
One thing I always mean to mention the choice of music. Most of it is in English but I think there is little thought about the words. For example, this time "Hotel California" was played - the style was a welcome change from the norm - but halfway through the song I saw a group of girls in hysterics. I asked what the joke was - and it was pointed out to me that the words of the song were very appropriate for FKKs. This was funny and illuminating - the girls' grasp of English is sometimes brilliant, and it shows how they see the work. The same day I heard elsewhere another girl call FKKs "devil's circus"

And of course, "It's Raining Men" can never be the same again. I always think of it as the FKK girl's morning prayer...

Don't get me wrong - I am not knocking FKKs. Some of the girls love FKK - one girls told me she preferred it to home - she says where else could she earn money, be free, and enjoy herself. (Of course there are other girls with bad pimps etc etc)

here are the lyrics to Hotel California:

On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair
Warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
I had to stop for the night
There she stood in the doorway;
I heard the mission bell
And I was thinking to myself,
’this could be heaven or this could be hell’
Then she lit up a candle and she showed me the way
There were voices down the corridor,
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to the hotel california
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
Plenty of room at the hotel california
Any time of year, you can find it here

Her mind is tiffany-twisted, she got the mercedes bends
She got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends
How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat.
Some dance to remember, some dance to forget

So I called up the captain,
’please bring me my wine’
He said, ’we haven’t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine’
And still those voices are calling from far away,
Wake you up in the middle of the night
Just to hear them say...

Welcome to the hotel california
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
They livin’ it up at the hotel california
What a nice surprise, bring your alibis

Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said ’we are all just prisoners here, of our own device’
And in the master’s chambers,
They gathered for the feast
The stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can’t kill the beast

Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
’relax,’ said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!

Euro100
05-08-06, 19:34
This also happened at FKKW, but you have to know German to appreciate the joke fully.

The German pop band Söhne Mannheims had this realy big hit; it goes:
"Und wenn ein Lied meine Lippen verlässt,
dann nur damit Du Liebe empfängst, ... ."

So we are sitting at the pool, and this one German guy is at the receiving end of a BBBJ. His buddy is relaxing on the chair next to him, and then he start singing:
"Und wenn dieses Glied Deine Lippen verlässt,
dann nur damit Du Liebe empfängst, ... ."

Every German speaker within earshot just about died laughing.

euro

Optimist
05-08-06, 20:55
Euro _ great, I'll do a guide in a week or so - I will try to summarise it from the girl's point of view - but will include some bits of advice (like what is likely to happen to you if you go with a girl and are drunk or stoned (i.e be relieved of more money than you knew you had - an honourable tradition found in all seafaring songs and now continued in the hallowed halls where working girls gaggle)

I'm afraid I am back home so will miss you again.

Cordelia

Dedalus
05-08-06, 20:57
"Und wenn dieses Glied Deine Lippen verlässt,
dann nur damit Du Liebe empfängst, ... ."

euro

Endgeil!!!

Dedalus, who's "Glied" had a wonderous time this Saturday with Alicia and did not want to "die kleine schöne Spanierin verlassen.

Fkk Lover
05-09-06, 04:57
Just as an FYI... and some of you guys might be saying "duh!" but Hotel California was written about an insane asylum.

The funniest moment I have EVER had with a song at a sauna club was at GT last fall. Just minding my own business during the pre-dinner lull. All of a sudden over the speaker comes "Take Me Home, Country Roads" by John Denver. When the chorus portion hit, it sounded like about 3/4 of the people there all broke into song!

Country Roads, take me home
To the place I belong
West Virginia, mountain momma
Take me home, country roads
Take me home, now country roads
Take me home, now country roads

There's no relevance to anything, of course, but a pretty old and fairly obscure as American music goes... I was just so surprised to see drunk Dutch guys and well endowed bleach blond Polish girls butchering that chorus.

It was pretty hillarious, but you had to be there to get the full effect.

Label
05-10-06, 11:22
Hello guys,

This is my first post but I have always read your useful-reports and your fantastic sex-adventures: this is a great forum. In the next mounths I would like post my experiences. I'll be in this nation for see the Wold-Cup.

Could you help me? . Last summer I spent several hours with NADJA (model-type, capuccino-skin, shining teeth, she is half german and half american, 20th, 178m) and I falling in love (better sex) with her: EURO100 maybe you have news about this girl?

Thanks in advance.

Euro100
05-11-06, 03:32
Hello guys,

This is my first post but I have always read your useful-reports and your fantastic sex-adventures: this is a great forum. In the next mounths I would like post my experiences. I'll be in this nation for see the Wold-Cup.

Could you help me? . Last summer I spent several hours with NADJA (model-type, capuccino-skin, shining teeth, she is half german and half american, 20th, 178m) and I falling in love (better sex) with her: EURO100 maybe you have news about this girl?

Thanks in advance.

Hi and Welcome to the Forum,

I will ask about Nadja's whereabouts when I hit FKKW on Tuesday or Wednesday. If she is there, I'll give her a test drive.

Cheers
euro

Dedalus
05-11-06, 16:57
I have not seen Nadja since the Faschings party in Feb.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Stano
05-11-06, 21:31
Big razzia of the police yesterday at FKKW and many other places !
For those who understand german :
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/aktuell/2006/05/11/bordell-wm-razzia/bordell-wm-razzia.html

Jackyo
05-12-06, 00:00
Big razzia of the police yesterday at FKKW and many other places !
For those who understand german :
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/news/aktuell/2006/05/11/bordell-wm-razzia/bordell-wm-razzia.html

Danke!

Raids are in preparation for the Football World Cup which is coming up in June and experts believe between 30 to 40 thousand hookers are coming to take advantage of the hordes of men coming to D'land.

So gentlemen, have your IDs ready.

Ortos
05-12-06, 07:47
It would be nice to receive specific confirmation that World was raided by Polizei...before we start some kind of paniced reaction, no? I mean, nowhere in the article posted below does it specifically mention World or any other club...or am I wrong?

Jackyo
05-12-06, 11:13
It would be nice to receive specific confirmation that World was raided by Polizei...before we start some kind of paniced reaction, no? I mean, nowhere in the article posted below does it specifically mention World or any other club...or am I wrong?

Yes, you are right. World has not been mentioned specifically.

Oase was mentioned by name in a recent report on the Roemerforum by Lurker:

"Zur Zeit läuft eine Razzia in der Oase, Schwerpunkt Personenkontrolle."

There is no need to panic at all. "Personenkontrolle" meaning they inspect the papers of the women who work there. It is not for the purpose of inspecting the papers of the customers.

So is World next? K. a. (keine Ahnung).. but you can imagine this is going to put a damper on club visits into the near future.

The reports specifically mention the Bahnhofsviertel in Frankfurt and says that similar activity is going on in other Bundeslaender: Rheinland-Pfalz, Hessen, Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bayern. (Interesting that there is no mention of NRW (Nordrhein Westfalen)).

Here is a prediction, again from the Roemerforum (by Duque de Alba):

"ich denke das ist erst der Auftakt für diesen Sommer. Wir werden sollche Meldungen in den nächste 6-8 Wochen häufiger lesen und hören dürfen"

In other words, this is just a preview of the summer. We are going to read and hear further reports of this nature for the next six to eight weeks.

The WM (Weltmeisterschaft or World Cup) starts in a couple of weeks in D'land so keep that in mind in planning your trips.

In NRW, Gelsenkirchen, Koeln and Dortmund will host games. In Hessen, Frankfurt. You can expect women to flock to these cities to follow the customers.

Matteo 77
05-12-06, 13:37
i can confirm u the also world has been "controlled" from police last day, they arrived around 23.

they looked only at girls paper, especially for visa and work permit in Germany

Dedalus
05-12-06, 13:40
There has been a sniff about this in the air for a few weeks now. I doubt that there is anything to be worried about. Jackyo is right about the identification, though. It will save you bucket loads of trouble if you are at a club during a Police control. This may explain the dearth of established (i.e. well known) talent at some of my favorite clubs of late.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who is hoping that this football mess is done with quickly so that some of my favorite can come back.

Jackyo
05-12-06, 14:56
This may explain the dearth of established (i.e. well known) talent at some of my favorite clubs of late.


What these raids will do is favor the clubs which have primarily Einheimische Besatzung (d.h. native German girls). The clubs which primarily employ foreign women are the ones most at risk.

Given two women who are identical in looks, talent, etc.. I will always go with the one who speaks correct German.

To most guys this doesn't matter but I find communication skills important. And if she has a nice personality, it can make up for her not having perfect looks.

Dreams
05-12-06, 15:56
I will stay away from Germany from now on till end of World cup. Too many people, plus police raids, prices increase etc.

Rather heading up to Barcelona, Prag, or, if I have enough time and money, Singapore and Thailland.

Dedalus
05-12-06, 17:03
What these raids will do is favor the clubs which have primarily Einheimische Besatzung (d.h. native German girls). The clubs which primarily employ foreign women are the ones most at risk.

Given two women who are identical in looks, talent, etc.. I will always go with the one who speaks correct German.

To most guys this doesn't matter but I find communication skills important. And if she has a nice personality, it can make up for her not having perfect looks.


The only problem with that bit of logic is that often the German girls are not the best providers, at least in the Frankfurt area. There are a few exceptions but the stars in those clubs are from Bulgaria, Poland, Lithuania, and at the moment Spain!!!

Actually, I think that the raids or controls may be because of the upcoming tax deadline.

Cheers,

Ken

Jackyo
05-12-06, 17:51
This is from the Roemerforum:

"es sind auch Mädels aus der FKKW mitgenommen worden." according to Geniesseraushessen.

In other words, women from FKKW (FKK World) were also picked up by the police.

Stano
05-12-06, 20:22
It would be nice to receive specific confirmation that World was raided by Polizei...before we start some kind of paniced reaction, no? I mean, nowhere in the article posted below does it specifically mention World or any other club...or am I wrong?

Ortos ... if I mentionned specifically that FKKW was raided, it is because I was informed by a friend of mine who was there during the razzia.
I am the webmaster of another forum especialy dedicated to the FKK scene and I would never give such an information if i am not sure of it.

Ortos
05-12-06, 22:50
Stano,

Thanks for clarifying that specifically World was raided by Polizei. I was confused because I thought you were offering that article as evidence that World was raided.

And I congratulate you on being the first to report to us that World, along with other venues, is part of an uberall durch Deutschland operation...I have also heard that Oase was raided.

Seems the World Cup is a double-edged sword, ja?

Mike De H
05-12-06, 23:19
Looks like I missed the raids then.

I just booked my flight for two days at World. Numbers will be down but as long as i get a nice relaxing time I suppose its OK.

Nice to see how its all about safety and prevention of trafficking of women (which used to be the big "white slavery" panic) and it has nothing to do with persicuting harmless women just trying to make a buck in life.

Nick The G
05-14-06, 12:47
On Wednesday, 10th of May, there was a raid in the FKK-World.

Started somewhere between half past eight and nine o’clock in the evening and lasted 4 hours till about half past twelfe in the night.

The identity and working permissions of all women were checked, main purpose was to look for illegally working women, drugs and weapons.

Somebody posted it in the Roemerforum already and I heard it yesterday too: they talk of seven women who had to leave FKK-World due to their ”papers status”.

Unfortunately, nice Sonja from Romania had to leave too, together with her compagnion Manuela, just 2 weeks ago they came back to the club after a 2 month leave.

Dedalus
05-14-06, 19:23
Unfortunately, nice Sonja from Romania had to leave too, together with her compagnion Manuela, just 2 weeks ago they came back to the club after a 2 month leave.


I heard this too. Damn! I really liked Sonja. Just as cute and sweet as they come. Did not know Manuela except as eye-candy, but she seemed a nice one.

Dedalus

Marlow
05-15-06, 14:34
A radio report said that in total in Rheinland Pfalz 352 establishments were raided. I assume that the Hesse police were busy in their neck of the woods at the same time as the RF police. Interesting that of the clubs and bordellos raided only 22 women were arrested for not having the correct papers. Which means that despite all the horror stories from politicians and the anglo-saxon press, the sex industry in Germany is pretty clean.

Marlow
05-15-06, 14:40
I wouldn't worry about there being a dearth of talent. The whole of Germany is looking to make a mint during the world cup. Pay sex is legal and to styme the industry is actually an unlawful restriction on trade. If the police go too far (don't think they will) I can see the possibility that club owners could mount a legal action against the police on those grounds. But if you boys want to keep your peckers dry, well, all the more fun for the rest of us!

Mike De H
05-15-06, 18:28
I am going to keep this brief.

My trip to World this Saturday and Sunday after the Police raids confirmed that the status of the place is very poor.

If you have a flight booked, cancel it. If you have a VIP card, don’t renew it. In short, avoid until after the World cup or a known monger declares that things have recovered, but right now things are bad.

The raids hit all the Frankfurt clubs really hard, they are all struggling. Since world struggled most however in recent months I have no doubt it is worse here. I have no evidence about the other two however.

When I arrived about 9 pm on Saturday, there were two free girls in the Wintergarden and three downstairs. There were in excess of 50 desperate customers jumping on anything remotely good looking the moment she became free.

At one point on Sunday there was only one free girl in the Wintergarden with fourteen men sat aound her.

I would estimate in reality there were about 20 Women working. The best looker on Saturday was Camilla from Turkey/Iran and on Sunday Jacqueline from Poland. Average looks about 5/10, mostly overweight, mostly only topless (about 50%)

Camilla was available, and I had a great session with her, she is a diva with the tongue and fingernails and worth all that is said about her. Jacqueline was generally not free, being really into a young good-looking guy almost all day. She did have a relatively nice new Polish friend there however, non Deutsche or English speaking. She got fucked so much she could hardly work and had to keep turning customers away.

There was also a pretty blonde who I liked but she was booked hours on end (just like Palace) and she was literally jumped on by a group of guys who arranged

I did two girls on Saturday, and three on Sunday. Apart from Camilla they were so average looking I do not remember much about them. OK performance, sort of 7/10. I tell a lie, one was Anita from Hungary, only light kissing but nice, and the other was a Bulgarian girl with “Egyptian” eyes, slightly overweight. Also another Hungarian girl and a German MILF with dark orange hair and skin. Nice woman, but none of these were close to justifying the 65 Euro entrance fee.

I nearly turned around and flew home. Should have done too, because I now have a sore throat and diorreah. Yes, you guessed, the food is truly awful now, having dropped all pretence of having a Chef. The cream of, er well, cream soup was OK, the pig came in cooked and uncooked (a la tapeworm) varieties, and I nearly marked the food on this report not the Girls.

It’s a sellers market right now. Service levels are down, the German girls rule the roost (all tem of them) and they are mostly into hanging around with German speaking rich guys , being able to earn as much as they want. Those that do want to work end up getting fucked half to death and give up half way through. Known good service providers are making a valiant effort, but too popular, and the atmosphere is completely gone now.

The only girls from Eastern Europe, with marriage of convenience papers are allowed to work there. More raids have been promised right through the World cup!

Two high profile casualties are an old regular of mne, Sonia (with her new plastic tits, bleached hair and stress problem) and Manuella the Rumanian pole dancer.

Neither have plans to come back until after the World Cup.

On the good side, one girl told me, that Dusseldorf and NRW are doing really well out of this, because they use local part timers and Polish girls a lot. Down side is, that the room crush is back on, because they are doing too well.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.

Beffen1
05-15-06, 22:30
Thanks Mikey, talk about taking one for the team! Sorry about that. Hopefully, ten days will see the return of some of those nefarious tax evading cutiepies.

Little Sonja got inflated eh? Man, that must look fine with her perfect little bum. I miss her.

Take care and get well.

beffen

Iseeu
05-16-06, 05:26
"The raids hit all the Frankfurt clubs really hard, they are all struggling. Since world struggled most however in recent months I have no doubt it is worse here. I have no evidence about the other two however."

Actually, I was at Oase twice, a night and a day visit, and the raid has barely affected it. Only 2 girls there had problems with papers

Optimist
05-16-06, 10:09
Beffen - personally I think Sonja looked nice with and without. Usually after a raid things sort themselves out within a week or so , so you should be ok. Shiatsu

Eagle 5
05-16-06, 16:20
After doing extensive research on the internet and just getting tired of the North American girls (non-pros) I decided to go to Blitzkreig the FKK's in Germany as I am going though my 1/3 life crisis. LOL My goal was to have sex with 20 girls in the 5 days I was in Germany, I visted Oase, Palace, World twice and then lastly Oase

I arrived during the day on the 12th around 3 pm and was quite exhausted from playing golf as it was a warm sunny day. (shot a 77 with an eagle!)

1)First girl that approached me was a young girl from Bulgaria, 20 can 't remember name(natalie?), wavy brown hair.

She's the first one to approach me and I figure, why not? well, mistake, first of all I should have rested as I was tired from golf, second of all she was rushing me and no LFK to warm up (which I like). I could barely get it up (I know what a loser I am ,hehe) as I did not really like her look either. Basically I ended the session after 15 minutes, which is fine by me. I think that she is quite new and need to improve her BJ's skills, I'm sure that will improve after a couple of months. Generally pleasant person, bad session was my fault.---5/10

I found that the World is a great place to longue around and I really enjoyed the downstairs relax room with the plasma T.V.'s

I guess people could tell that I was not from europe as I was watching porn and not paying attention to the fussball on the tube.

In any case after resting for about 2 hours I saw two blond hotties hanging out. Approached them and talked to them--Natascha (German) and Ines (Riga). talked to Natascha quite a bit as her english was Sehr Gut and she had been to N.A.

Now I was horny as Natascha reminded me of my third to last girlfriend about 2 years ago--she only works weekend days(10-7) well, that's at least what she said. I have found out that the girls do bend the truth, but hey I could care less, I was there for some good sex and not about validity of one's work shifts, name or situations

2)Ines (Riga, Lativa) (30)---blond in ponytail, 5"8, touchy feely out side the room

Got right to business in the room straight to BBBJ THERE WOULD BE NO FOREPLAY!, no kissing, made her warm me up for Natascha did not cum but she was a champ and worked hard for 25 minutes I rate her 7/10. Pleasant girl otherwise, not great looking but decent

3)Natascha (German)--(24)--blond , nice real breasts tall, 5"8 I believe, tattoo on lower back

Why do the girls in Europe have all these tattoos? Any ways who cares, I am vaccinated against HEP A and B but I was not prepared for Nat. She was wundabar! Great GFE and PSE at the same time. Excellent BBBJ. Extended to 1 hour, was a real sweet girl. 11/10---bonus marks for being funny and good conversationalist.

We chatted afterwards and I told her I would be coming back to World the next day in the morning for a marathon session till closing.

Nat had to leave right after our session and I was resting up and bumped into Anka,

4)Anka---red hair, enhanced romainian? tattoo on lower back. 5"8

I knew this was a mistake but I had a quota to make so I went to room, first thing is she tried to upsell immediately, I like GFE and friendly girls, she seemed to have a fown on her face the whole time. she made an easy 50 euros with me as after 10 minutes I got limp because there was no connection. 5/10--only because she is a certified babe.

So after Anka I was walking around and I remembered Anita (Adrienne?) had talked to me after my session with Nat and I told her later and she was nice about it

5)Anita (Adrienne?)--Hungary 5"5 ,tanned, black curly hair , slightly enhanced boobs (tongue in cheek)

I was just turned on looking at her after the dud sessio with Anka so I talked to her and invited her to the room, THERE WOULD BE NO FOREPLAY---straight to BBBJ, besides I found out she doesn't kiss anyways, LOL. great body and quite funny to talk to, likes to say "fuck , Shit" a lot. Real sweet personality 9/10


May 13

6) Got to World at noon and immediately got Natascha after 1pm for a fabulous 2 hour session

Don't need to say more as she was awesome and even hung around with me for a bit and had lunch/diner with her. Funny but at 5 PM she wanted to take me to the room again but I wanted to try other girls, she said she was horny and you know what, I think she was. Ah, she probrably just wanted more money from me but I gave her a firm "Nein! Lieder Nicht" LOL.

After a bit of a rest I went with a Romainia girl

7)Romainia Girl (forgot name) Shoulder length blond hair, little overbite, tattoo on lower back wears a leather belt, I think enhanced boobs

She was pretty nice but I did not like the feel of her skin it felt like leather. Did not sperm with her, she seemed dissapointed , I told her it was because Natascha had fucked my brains out earlier and she just laughed! 8/10

There seemed to be a lot less women than Oase, I guess the raids had something to do about this.

I was sitting with an American when I beleive that Mike De H was sitting on the couch watching fussball and they started to discuss about Dubai. I only reconized Mike after reading his recent posts about being there. I sure Mr. DeH knows who I am now!

Walked around a bit and rested and Ana (Polish) caught my eye. She seemed to be real busy the whole night but around 9:30 pm I finally got her.

8) Ana, Polish, 34! 5"7(I couldn't beleive this-- I thought she was 26) enhanced boobs, blond, just a 10/10 body and real sweet presonality, smiles a lot, even with minimall english.

I immediately told her I wanted a 1 hour session as I know that guys have been getting her and perhaps get some good service from her if she wasn't rushed.

There was a lot of DFK and LFK which I like and her BBBJ with probing fingers and ball sucking was incredible, I was beginnging the think that she was Russian or Ukrainian! LOL.

She was real sweet, but I suspected that she was on something as she was kinda sluring her words and her eyes had a glassy look to it. I know I was drunk on pussy!

I do not know if she enjoyed the session but she stayed an extra 25 minutes kissing and hugging me, I acutally had to kick her out! LOL. She did not charge me extra. It was strange but even outside the room she wouldn't let me go and there was some DFK and LFK, she went back to the minibar near the relax room after out session, It also was strange but she didn't follow me upstairs to get her money, she told me after I showered to bring it down to her, which I did, and there was a lot more kissing , touching and hand holding at the minibar. BUT I now wondered if she showered after our session! I don't think she went with anyone else for a while afterwards, but I was wondering if she had showered after her session with the guy before me! yuck! Jacqueline (long tattoo on back) was getting mad at Ana for being clingy to me and said a few things like "she is crazy,etc" . At one point Ana told me she loved me and Jacqeline immediately cussed her out! At certain points I felt that Jacqeline was starting to be rude to me also (I am a real polite guy--most North American Chinese are) At that point I felt really uncomfortable and left. No need to be so hard on Ana, she was just having fun with a handsome, nice, pleasant, funny, sensitive humble guy! haha!

I rate Ana 11/10 bonus for being so passionate (could it be because of me? LOL or ecstacy or booze or whatever?)

I decided to leave at 1:30 and go to Oase because the place was turning into a cockfight if you know what I mean.

Overall I had a great time at World, the perfect club would be the girls at Oase at the World. But hey it was still real fun.

General notes:

Food was shit but I'm not there for the food, I'm there for the eye candy

I missed out on Betty, fuck , I didn't realize she was only there for the day

The girls seem to be nicer if you went 1 hour and did not make them go to BBBJ immediately.

The place was so clean, loved it and the staff, especially the girl at the relax room mini-bar was so nice to me (black hair, black tank top). Being here alone and all.

By the way this may be the prick in me but some of the girls I was with were mothers and had husbands/boyfriends, it was quite a turn on for me know this.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Optimist
05-16-06, 16:52
Welcome Eagle. Your reports were informative and really clear ( I won't however be taking up the editor's suggestion of making it a report of distinction - simply because in a couple of months the girl turnover will make it dated. The reports of distinction should be kept for more longterm info and guidance). Again - great report

Eagle 5
05-16-06, 17:22
Shiatsu,

It's too bad I didn't meet you, I may be back with a friend in Spetember and it would be an honor to meet you. Also I would like to say your posts are always informative and non-judgmental.

Harry Dude
05-16-06, 21:45
I regret not having checked the forum before I drove to the World on Sunday - I was one of the 14 guys staring at a single girl in the "wintergarden" - I could not believe how few girls were there.

Anyway, Betty was there, so I had a very pleasant time with her - she was very busy and must have made a fortune. I also did Ruby from Hungary (very deeply tanned, enhanced breasts), she was nice but did a very quick BBBJ before she put on the condom and continued with a CBJ. I've never experienced this in any of the Frankfurt area FKK's.

Oase on the previous day was rocking - no real signs of there having be a raid.

Marlow
05-17-06, 09:30
By contrast the German forums are not that excited about the raids. I don't detect an air of depression among German mongers. The cops are in my view putting on a show of force because of all the political pressure the Germans are coming under from America, Britain and (would you believe it) Sweden. In the States there has been a major conference organised by a Congressman (or senator, can't recall exactly) calling on the German government to outlaw prostitution completely. The British minister for social affairs has pleaded with the Germans to advise all teams and fans to stay away from brothels. The Swedish Equal Opportunites minister has called for his national team to boycott the World Cup. So everyone with an axe to grind is jumping on the bandwagon. I agree with Shiatsu, things will calm down and the girls return. There is just too much opportunity to earn big money for them to stay away. During the tournament the cops are going to be totally occupied with rampaging fans and terror threats to bother about who's bonking who and do they have the right papers.
The problem is not going to be the shortage of goodtime girls, but of places to stay. I have heard of girls - not FKK girls - offering their apartments to visitors during the tournament. They will do the cooking, cleaning and have sex with them as often as they want. Guys can book in groups and stay as long as they want. I have no idea how much it costs but it seems like an enterprising idea to me!! anyone interested, drop me a line and I will try and find out more details.

Eagle 5
05-17-06, 12:42
If they are putting perssure on Germany to stop prostitution, why are they not bothering Holland (Amsterdam?)

Thanks to CAVE (Citizens Against Viturally Everything) our world is going to be sexless.

The Media is really stupid because I found out about the FKK clubs because of the world cup hoopla. It was like free advertsing for the FKK's.

Asd Qwert
05-17-06, 22:53
Hey Eagle 5,

Excellent report! Just like there.

I hope you had a good trip back home.

I knew when you were talking about a forum or discussion group on the internet that I would run in to you again.

I had a great time talking with someone from North America after traveling for so long.

I have continued my trip on to Leipzig and finally to Munich. I didn’t have any time in Leipzig, But found a very nice club close to Munich called Colossian.

The facilities were very good, smaller than World, But very clean and nice.

There were fewer women than men kind of like FKK world last Saturday. I think they were feeling the crack down also.

The girls that were at the club were very nice and on par with the girls at World. I have to say that Peggy from Leipzig now living in Munich was wonderful. The club was a little low key. None of the girls approached or pressured you. This may be because of the Women to men ratio, but it was still very nice and fun.

I'll be back in Germany in September; Perhaps I'll see you again at World.


Shiatsu,

It's too bad I didn't meet you, I may be back with a friend in Spetember and it would be an honor to meet you. Also I would like to say your posts are always informative and non-judgmental.

Eagle 5
05-18-06, 04:28
Hey! How are you? I guess you know exactly who I am!

Yes ,perhaps we will meet up again, I have recuited 1 friend and possibily 2 more for september for a total of 4 fun guys!. Hopefull I'll see you then!

Eagle 5
05-18-06, 04:34
By the way did Ana love me or not? LOL. I still think that she was drunk or something that night. That was quite an interesting episode near the minibar. Jacequline Chewing Ana out for saying that she loved me,hehe.

When I was leaving I bumped into Ana upstairs in the "nightclub" part and we made out for like ten minutes before I left. a freebie!

Asd Qwert
05-18-06, 08:36
Yea, she was looking pretty doe eyed. I didn't get a chance to talk to her so I dont know if she was drunk or not.

So you are preaching the wonders of the FKK Scene. Your friends are going to be blown away. I bet they dont beleive you.

I hope my trip will coincide with yours. I'll be back to Oasis on friday night before leaving for Spain. I hear that it is still hopping.


By the way did Ana love me or not? LOL. I still think that she was drunk or something that night. That was quite an interesting episode near the minibar. Jacequline Chewing Ana out for saying that she loved me,hehe.

When I was leaving I bumped into Ana upstairs in the "nightclub" part and we made out for like ten minutes before I left. a freebie!

Samurai X
05-18-06, 09:13
Be careful, Eagle 5, FKKs are pretty addicitive.

I have been to FKKs only in the last 1. 5 yrs, but I also heard all kind of mind-screwing comments from girls and I would not think they were lying, but again they are professional providers of GFEs. Well, they got me since I keep coming back whenever I get a chance. LOL

Cheers,

S


By the way did Ana love me or not? LOL. I still think that she was drunk or something that night. That was quite an interesting episode near the minibar. Jacequline Chewing Ana out for saying that she loved me,hehe.

When I was leaving I bumped into Ana upstairs in the "nightclub" part and we made out for like ten minutes before I left. a freebie!

Marlow
05-18-06, 14:08
As every dog has its day so does every newspaper story. if you want attention in the media link yourself, nay chain your body, to the World Cup. Otherwise you won't get a look in. Wait for headlines like 'Fans pestered by prostitutes' or 'End this menace now!' or 'Pimps beat up innocent dad of two'. There is a feeling of tension at present over how the cops will behave during the competition. But folks, let's be happy that even if you are tagged and toweled and raided, you will not suffer the fate of men in the States. You will not end up on a website with your best smile. You will be allowed to go about your lawful business in anonimity once they have checked your passport and you have given them some address in the middle of Arizona.

Eagle 5
05-18-06, 19:34
Samuri,

As my title stated, being of strong mind and all (the girls I believe are much stronger than the guys mentally). I know it is an illusion and do take what they say with a grain of salt. Like I have mentioned before in my other posts (see FKK World)---I am not here to test the validity of their names or situations. I am here to enjoy the moment/illusion/fantasy, and that is all. But I do admit some providers give better illusions/fantasies than others!

Don't worry about me bud, I'm a big boy! I can handle'em!

Asd,

Yes, the only friend that know I went is really blown away by what I told him, its too bad he is married (happily might I add--he has his own private FKK with his wife,LOL).

An Addenum: I have told 3 other friend now and they are freaking out wither I am lying about FKK's. They think I'm on drugs and made this shit up,LOL

Have fun at Oase and look out for LINA, real sweet and tell her I said "Hi" !hehe.

Looking to come back at the beginning of September/end of August to avoid Oktoberfest and enjoy the outdoor areas of World and Oase!

Euro100
05-18-06, 21:51
On the transatlantic flight they showed a little video with tips on how to overcome jetlag. They suggested to drink plenty of fluids, to spend some time outdoors, and to get some exercise. So of course I am thinking right away that I know the ideal place where to do this: FKKW. As a matter of fact, the match is so good that I think that any businessman who wants to get quickly over jetlag basically owes it to his boss to go to FKKW and hang out for the day. It’s your duty! (And of course then you should be entitled to put your FKKW expenses onto your expense account ;) ).

Alright then, here we go with the report. Wednesday. I arrived around 11 am. Only about 10 providers present, nobody I know. First things first: coffee and breakfast. Then sauna. Then a little walking around outdoors and drinking of plenty of fluids. I felt like I was getting over my jetlag in a hurry. There was only one thing missing. Did you pay attention? Yes, exercise.

First exercise: Nicky, from Czech Republic. Prague, actually, just like my favorite Andrea! I asked if she knew Andrea, but no such luck. Well, Nicky’s body reminded me a bit of Andrea’s. I was resting next to the pool, and she parked herself on the lounge chair next to me. After just a bit of small talk, where I found out the above information, I waived her over. Time for stretching and warm-up! She played a bit with my third leg and remarked: “he is very long”. (I’ll get back to this quote later.) She was reasonably competent in administering a BBBJ, but was not too much into DFK. Oh well, for the first shot - umm sorry, I meant exercise - the chemistry is not that important. In the room we started with another BBBJ. She was not too much into DATY; so I dropped my effort. She mounted me, and her pussy was incredibly tight. Suffices to say that it was over after the proverbial three minutes.

Nicky
From Prague, Chech Republic
5’ 4”, 105 lb, 22 years
Petite body, small breasts, nice erect nipples
Hair: Wavy, more than shoulder-long, mulit-colored brown and dark-blond
Face: 7, body: 8, performance: 6

Now it was not even 1 pm, and I did not fancy any other exercise partner of the ones present. So I decided to take a beak until the evening team arrives at 5. I had my golf clubs in the rental car; so I got dressed and drove over to the Golf Club Lich. Of course I told the girl at the reception that I wanted to return, and she gave me the usual reentry receipt.

At the golf course I joined the next twosome at the first tee, two pretty nice-looking ladies in their early thirties. One of them was quite foxy, I must say, and in my pre-FKK days I might have tried to make a move. But I knew I would return to FKKW to a sure thing and decided not to make an effort here. Amusingly, after I hit a nice drive on one of the par-5s, the foxy lady said to her friend “he is very long”. Against my will, I burst out into laughter. I really had to bite my tongue and not tell them that Nicky had said the same only a couple hours earlier. When they asked me why I was laughing, I just told them I was happy with me drive, instead of saying “Have you seen me without my towel?”

The round of golf was fairly quick and enjoyable. The ladies quit after nine holes. On the back nine somehow my motivation was gone, and after hole 13 I also left the course and went back to the club.

It was 5:30 when I returned, and now there were about 20 providers present. Still not a good selection by FKKW standards, but several very good-looking girls were among them. After a quick shower, I was ready for more exercise. When I re-entered I was given a different locker, and its lock was broken. I only noticed this when I had already completely changed into my FKK uniform. I did not need a new locker, because I already had put all of my valuables into the small cubby next to the entrance. But I still wanted to alert the receptionist to the fact that the locker was broken. So I told her; and she said OK, I’ll give you a new locker. I said that this is not necessary and said “there is nothing valuable in my pants”. OK, this came out wrong, and the receptionist and a girl who was just checking in started laughing.

In the bar the same girl came over and asked me if it was true that there was nothing valuable in my pants. She looked attractive to me, and so I had to show her that this statement was incorrect. I have to admit that I did not ask her name or country of origin. But it turned out to be a very competent session. I am going to repeat during my next visit, and then I will ask her for her name.

Name: ?
Country: Poland, I would guess.
23 years, also a guess
5’8”, 125 pounds
shoulder-long straight blond hair, blue eyes
Face: 8, body: 9, performance: 8+

More fluid consumption and spending time outdoors! You see I took this jetlag thing very serious. Then, walking around and looking for more exercise, I noticed Carmen. Of course I never just walk over and ask “wanna hump?” Instead I sent a smile her way from my seat at the bar. She came over and introduced herself. Another very good session that lasted almost all of the allotted time for the competition (half hour), with all of the necessary performance elements included. Definitely worth a repeat! Carmen has incredibly beautiful medium-sized breasts and keeps herself erect in perfect posture, similar to the way Andrea used to walk around at FKKW. (Did I mention that I miss Andrea?)

Funny detail that I remembered after I submitted this post, and that I added in later: Carmen is following the usual custom of having Chinese characters tattooed down her spine. I hate this, by the way, but not enough to pass on Carmen. I asked her during our get-to-know-you chit-chat what the tattoo meant. She said "Fick mich" (fuck me). So I said that this was a lot of characters for such a short message. She answered that fucking her needed a much longer description than just a quickie.

Carmen
Rumania
25 (another guess)
5’9”, 130 pounds
Black straight hair, not quite shoulder long
Face: 7, body: 9, performance: 8

Dinner! Goulash soup, very thick, lots of huge chunks of beef, quite spicy: Excellent! Then some chicken in white wine gravy over potato dumplings, with a mixed salad with yoghurt dressing. I washed all of this down with a couple of Claustaler non-alcoholic beers. Then a cappuccino to finish it off.

By now it was a little after 7 pm.I felt that I had done my duty to overcome my jetlag and could take the evening off and relax. As I was sitting down in the main wintergarten and chatted with a couple of German mongers, in comes a busload of Koreans. Literally! They had come the Messe in Frankfurt from Seoul, and for entertainment they chartered a bus with a German host and went to FKKW. 17 of them, very cool! First they walked single-file through the entire place and took a tour, and then they split up into smaller groups. Immediately the energy in the whole place went up. It makes the girls very happy when 17 new customers walk in at once, and the level of chatter and excitement went up noticeably. I went to the sauna, where a couple of the Koreans asked me if I knew how the girl-thing worked. You have come to ask the right dude, brothers! They were very happy with my explanations, and off they went. Later I saw both of them coming out of rooms with girls and with big smiles on their faces. Welcome to Germany!

I was sitting at the bar, contemplating if I wanted to leave, when Bani (from Cuba) came over and squeezed the tits of the evening upstairs bar girl. The bargirl put up some fake resistance, and Bani said that it was a duty to squeeze nice tits. Duty is duty, so I gave Bani’s hooters a quick massage. She rubbed herself against me and talked dirty in German. I said I would catch her later. She went away without further discussion. Now that is confidence! Girls that are less sure of their own might try to latch on in this situation, trying to not let the potential catch get away from them.

I went downstairs and chatted a bit with Francesca, who had duty at the downstairs champagne bar. I told her that I really want to get her to sleep with me. She said that she could not get away from the bar, but maybe next time. I’ll try again on Friday ;)

When I came back through the downstairs living room, Bani and Nicky were talking to each other at the sofa next to the entrance to the indoor pool area. I stopped to chat with them. Nicky offered a ménage a trois. I said that I had to test-drive Bani solo first. Bani took this as an invitation and started to tend to my dick, then giving me a BBBJ on that sofa. A couple of my newfound Korean friends were sitting across the room and took the whole scene in with great interest. Bani does not just suck the proverbial chrome off the bumper; if you let her, the entire bumper will come of the car. Her performance was incredible energetic, almost at the pain threshold. She had promised that she could deep-throat my dick and even get my balls into her mouth. She was not able to accomplish her goal, but gave it a great try. Again and again she rammed my instrument into the back of her throat. What a trooper!

We went to a room with a huge bed and made excellent use of it. The BBBJ in the room was even more extensive, and she carried it over to a rim job with figuring of my ass. (not really my favorite thing, but who am I to stop her). She brought the same ferocity to every position as she had to the BBBJ. She was truly horny and loves to talk dirty. The harder I rammed her, the better she liked it. Not a GFE by any means, just good old-fashioned hard-core sex. She did not do too much moaning; what was there was real. But she kept shouting encouragements and talking dirty all the time. This was one of the best sessions I have had in a long time. I have to go all the way back to Rio last October before I can remember a session that had the same intensity.

Bani
Cuba
About 22 years
5’5”, 100 pounds
very small breast with very cheerfully standing nipples
black wavy shoulder-long hair
Face: 7, body: 8, performance: 10

After this session I decided that I had done enough damage to my equipment and that further sex would be counter-productive. I got back to the hotel at 10 or so, went to bed and slept until 9 am. This jetlag thing really seems to work!

Nick The G
05-19-06, 10:03
Bani
Cuba
About 22 years
5’5”, 100 pounds
very small breast with very cheerfully standing nipples
black wavy shoulder-long hair
Face: 7, body: 8, performance: 10Bani, she's really a good one.
Already had the pleasure with her several times.

You should ask her to introduce you to her special ice cube treatment!

By the way, did she change hair colour? I remember her with curly dark-blonde hair with light blonde strains (more or less like Daniela's).

Very often, she comes to Pohlheim together with 30+ old Gloria from Cuba, who has black hair.

Routard
05-19-06, 11:40
Excellent humoristic report Euro, as usual. Funny the golf story with the two ladies. I experience also a special vibe with women when I've fucked out all the testosterone of my brain in an FKK. And I'm glad to hear also that Cuban Bunny is present, I'm looking forward to be at World next week.

Routard

Euro100
05-19-06, 16:38
Excellent humoristic report Euro, as usual. Funny the golf story with the two ladies. I experience also a special vibe with women when I've fucked out all the testosterone of my brain in an FKK. And I'm glad to hear also that Cuban Bunny is present, I'm looking forward to be at World next week.

Too bad that I will have to leave on Monday already. So I will miss you. I will go one last time tomorrow.

The ladies: I agree with you; there is something special when interacting with non-pros after you have had a great session with a pro. Somehow this takes the pressure off (yes, pun intended), and then the interaction with the ladies is much more relaxed.

euro

Euro100
05-19-06, 16:40
You should ask her to introduce you to her special ice cube treatment!


Well, maybe I'll do this tomorrow. :) It sounds enticing.



By the way, did she change hair colour? I remember her with curly dark-blonde hair with light blonde strains (more or less like Daniela's).


I am really bad with remembering hair colors (or even describing them). It seemed dark to me, much darker than Daniela's.

euro

Nick The G
05-20-06, 14:56
Well, maybe I'll do this tomorrow. :) It sounds enticing.

I am really bad with remembering hair colors (or even describing them). It seemed dark to me, much darker than Daniela's.

EuroWhen I arrived yesterday, Friday, 19th, at about 2 o'clock pm, 4 men and 17 women were hanging around in the wintergarden, 7 of them at the bar, among them Banny and Betty, both from Cuba; and Chanel and Diana.

So I met Banny again (that's actually the way she wants her name to be written!), and later on had a nice time with her in the room. She left already early in the night and said, she will be away for a couple of days till middle of next week.

She told me Gloria will be back to FKK-World too next week and both intend to be there at the three year anniversary event on May 27th.

Betty was on leave too, she will be away for a week or so for holidays.

Not too much going on on this friday, but the woman to men ratio was very good! Again a couple of new faces!

Had a nice conversation with Camilla from Turkey

Around 5 o'clock in the afternoon, 23 -25 women were awaiting customers in the wintergarden. And about 7-9 men were hanging around!

Had two more sessions, first with Victoria from Lettland and then early in the morning with dark-haired Andrea from Germany. Both were good club standard. And I have to admit it was not my best day there.

Best session I had with Banny, always nice chemistry, amd of course sometimes it helps a lot if you know a women already for quite some time!

Of women I met there, some names I remember:

Anita, Andrea, Anka, Banny, Betty, Carmen, Camilla, Chanel, Diana, Jeannette, Petia/Petra, Jacqueline, Natalie, Samira (was in Palace before, first day in World), Victoria,

Some I know but I didn't see on this friday: Adrienne, Edit, Denise.

Routard
05-20-06, 21:21
She told me Gloria will be back to FKK-World too next week and both intend to be there at the three year anniversary event on May 27th.



I'm looking forward the party if the Cuban duo will be there too...

NoCBJ4Me
05-21-06, 02:28
I know that it is 65 Euros to enter the club, but the reports I've read don't talk about the cost of these girls. Is the cost per girl about 100 Euros per hour? Does it cost extra for BBBJ or is that expected?

nocbj4me

Whitey2
05-21-06, 03:08
I know that it is 65 Euros to enter the club, but the reports I've read don't talk about the cost of these girls. Is the cost per girl about 100 Euros per hour? Does it cost extra for BBBJ or is that expected?

nocbj4me

It's 65 euro to enter the club unless you're going to be around enough days to warrant buying a 5-visit red VIP card, which (depending on how you figure it) either lowers the per-visit price or gets you the last visit free.

A 30-min session at World is 50 euro. Take that base cost times however much time in 30-minute increments floats your boat.

BBBJ is normal and included in the base price (and quite often is used as the indicator of sealing the deal on a trip to the room with the girl when you're still fooling around out in the couch area), but BBBJTC or BBBJCIM or however you want to initial completing the oral act is 50 euro extra. Anal was 100 euro extra the only time I tried it (with Betty from Cuba), but might possibly be 50 euro extra from some providers. Don't know for sure. Probably it's a standard 100. Also, not all providers will do that little extra. Ask in advance.

By the way, if your forum name indicates your sexual activity preference in life, try Bernds. As I understand it, BBBJ to completion is part of the 50 euro package there.

NoCBJ4Me
05-21-06, 17:11
Whitey2,

Thanks for the info. As you surmised, BBBJ is a favorite activity.

How does Bernds compare to World, regarding the beauty of the women?

nocbj4me

Whitey2
05-21-06, 19:27
Haven't been there yet. Just reporting what I've read from other posters.

Euro100
05-21-06, 20:38
I experienced a jetlag relapse and decided that I needed to check myself into FKKW for a repeat treatment. Remember, the treatment for jetlag consists of drinking plenty of fluids, spending time outdoors, and getting physical exercise. A few years ago there was a James bond movie titled “The World is Not Enough”. I beg to differ! The World work for me.

I arrived at FKKW at almost 2 pm, after having slept in until noon. There was exactly one parking spot left in the paved parking lot. Good sign already, because this meant that is was not dead inside! I shelled out the 65 euro, took a shower, and changed into my FKK uniform. The weather was miserable outside, rain and storm. So right away I knew that one of the three recipes for jetlag combat would not work today. Oh well, I would have to put more effort into the other two!

When you come into the Wintergarten right from the locker room, you have lots of gorgeous naked women stare at you in anticipation. Everyone is ready to be your sex toy for a mere 50 bucks. And all the food and drink you want in luxurious surroundings. What more could you ask for :)

During my customary tour of the premises and headcount, I was able to see 14 girls. You figure a few were in the rooms; so this means approximately 20 providers on duty. Plenty of talent! Interestingly, on each of the black leather couches downstairs there was one guy lying and sleeping. Yes, it is a great feature of FKKW that you can seclude yourself and be left alone for a while, but this still looked hilarious to me. As I mentioned, I had slept until noon, and so I was not tempted to join the sleepover.

So I went upstairs and looked for action in the Wintergarten. After a couple of beers of the non-alcoholic variety (don’t laugh; this stuff is actually pretty decent), and a couple of cappuccinos to wash down the beer, I decided that I needed a dose of Irina (Russian, 25 year old, red wavy shoulder-long hair, fairly tall, around 5’10’’ perhaps, with a dark-tanned look to her skin, natural breasts, model body, cute smile, and an oh-so-provocative walk). Last month I had had a really good session with her, and so I thought that this is a sure thing to get me started. When I sat on one of the couches upstairs in the Wintergarten, Irina was standing next to her customary table with her back to me, both feet on the ground, with her legs slightly spread apart. She was back-lit (well, front-lit, I suppose, whatever), and the bright light just penetrated through between her legs. Knew right then that I had to have myself a piece of that pussy again!

We went downstairs for a little foreplay and couch action. Magically, all of the sleepers had disappeared or at least relocated to the lounge chairs on the far side of the indoor pool. I told Irina how much I enjoyed her last month. Of course she did not remember me, but was nice enough to pretend she did. She gives a high-quality BBBJ and did not disappoint on the couch. Then off to the room! Irina being Irina tried to up-sell me to CIM. I said maybe, which produced a very high energy effort to suck me to completion right away. Then it was my turn for DATY. I gave it my best college try (you know, reaching up and massaging her boobs while licking + eye contact); she seemed to appreciate it. On to 69. OK, time to put on the raincoat. She must have known that CIM was probably not going to happen then, but seemed actually eager to get to ride me. Very cool session from cowgirl through doggie, via mish, into spoon to completion. Extremely enjoyable, and just writing all of this detail down makes me horny again! 20 minutes; 50 bucks; loved it!

If I remember correctly Irina has been educated and worked briefly as a nurse in Russia. So, if any of you docs need a foxy nurse, you cannot do better than hiring her. I sure liked playing doctor with her!

Another shower, more beer, more cappuccinos. Ran into a guy from the German Roemerforum. Let me call him Napoleon (mainly because that’s what he told me the girls call him). Exchanged notes on who our favorites were. Its always fun to chew the fat with other guys, and Napoleon gave me good intel on Maxi (petite girl, about 23, medium length black hair, I think she said Moldavia was where she was from). Had a very enjoyable session with her, too. Another 50 well spent!

As I came back from the post-Maxi shower and went to the upstairs bar to continue my quest for plenty of liquids, there was a guy with a baseball cap standing there, ordering a drink. The girl behind the bar joked with him that he needed to be naked and thus could not wear a hat, and he said something like “I nix Deutsch”. So I translated for him. Wouldn’t you know it, he is on this forum (more of a lurker than a regular poster, according to him). I think that his name here is YahBaby69 (but I may have heard wrong…). Perhaps he can post and correct me. Of course we chatted a bit. Turns out he was no new to the hobby and had seen action in a few countries. In particular, we compared notes on Rio. (Talking about Rio is always fun for me). But he was an FKKW-virgin. So I gave him the grand tour and pointed out a few of my favorite girls to him, introduced him to a couple of them. (No, I am not a pimp … I just play one on TV ;) )

It was sorta going on 6 pm, and we decided to check out the dinner fare. Fairly decent salad bar (which I skipped), Schweinshaxen, Sauerkraut, mashed potatoes, also some chicken dish. The Schweinshaxen (= pig legs) were very small, perhaps from piglets, with all of the skin removed. Delicious! (Even though I could not talk YahBaby69 into trying it.) You gotta have Haxen and Kraut when you are in Germany! During dinner we chatted with a guy from Canada, and Napoleon come over as well.

Oh well, this is not the Food Channel. Back to the topic of this forum! By now there must have been at least 30 girls present, very high quality selection. YahBaby69 went over to Nicky, who I had mentioned to him as a good choice after he had described his priorities to me. I think they hit it off real well, and eventually they went to the Kino for some pre-room action. I went to the bar and had yet one more beer. Earlier I had wanted to session with one particular girl who had caught my eye, Chanel. Either she had been busy with another guy, or I had been busy; it had not worked so far. But now she walked by my barstool. I smiled at her, and we chatted a bit. She is real fun to hang with. I bought us a couple of Red Bull at 3.5 euro per

She is about 5’7”, 20 years old, has her black hair back in a bun, has a Southern European complexion, is (at least partially) from Tunisia, speaks excellent German. Her natural breasts stand at attention and are just the perfect size. She wears small glasses that make her look like she could work as a secretary in some fancy lawyer’s office. So after playing doctor with Irina, it was time for more role-play with Chanel!

We went to the Kino and hung for a while, watching a porn movie starring Jenna Jamison, which was dubbed in German for some reason totally incomprehensible to me. Since when do you need dialog to understand what is going on in a porn movie? So Jenna’s moans sounded totally faked in their German accent. (By the time that we entered the Kino, YahBaby69 and Nicky had already left it for one of the adjacent rooms, by the way.) My Tunisian secretary did her best to out-suck Jenna, who was doing the very same thing on the screen. But she was not into much kissing or DATY. Oh well, you can’t win’em all! The fake Jenna moans with German accent were breaking my concentration, and so we also went into one of the adjacent rooms. YahBaby69 was still occupying one of the other ones.

After the customary BBBJ in the room to get us started, we went to doggie for a while, then spoon. Then I asked he to get on top and do some of the hard work. She said she couldn’t, because she had an injury to her tendons when she twisted an ankle. What the hell? Am I supposed to do all the work around here? But like the real trooper that I am, I played through the pain and took the lead again. Miss Tunisian secretary, could you step into my office again, please? I am ready to dictate another memo! It turned out to be a pretty decent dictation, all in mish this time. She gamely held her dictation pad against my pen and made the appropriate noises. Fake or not, I don’t care! If it was faked, she was a good actor. And, as opposed to Jenna’s dubbed moans, my Tunisian secretary’s moans were perfectly synchronized with her lip movements.

In the shower I ran into YahBaby69 again; he had upgraded to an hour with Nicky. (Bud, if you are reading this: we need a post!) We went to the bar, and YahBaby69 bought me a beer. Then I wanted to go to the downstairs bar to see if Francesca was in this evening. No such luck. But I introduced YahBaby69 to Jana, who had arrived earlier, and who was having a drink downstairs. I hope he had a chance to experience her. But for me it was time to leave for a business dinner. I had every intention to come back later in the evening to take a spin with Jana, but a non-pro opportunity intervened.

Bottom line: I thought that the number and quality of the girls was outstanding. Meeting Napoleon and YahBaby69 made it a fun day. Sex with Irina was outstanding, and the other two numbers were pretty good, too. 225 euro (including the 10 for the Red Bulls) well spent!

Dedalus
05-21-06, 21:19
I After a couple of beers of the non-alcoholic variety (don’t laugh; this stuff is actually pretty decent), and a couple of cappuccinos to wash down the beer, I decided that I needed a dose of Irina (Russian, 25 year old, red wavy shoulder-long hair, fairly tall, around 5’10’’ perhaps, with a dark-tanned look to her skin, natural breasts, model body, cute smile, and an oh-so-provocative walk). Last month I had had a really good session with her, and so I thought that this is a sure thing to get me started.

If Irina is back, does that mean that Olga is as well????

Cheers amd thanks for the World-word,

Dedalus

Euro100
05-21-06, 21:49
If Irina is back, does that mean that Olga is as well????

Cheers amd thanks for the World-word,

Dedalus

I heard from Napoleon that Olga is still on vacation, but will be back soon. Olga is one of my favorites, no doubt.

By the way, for all of you Irina fans, here is one more piece of useful info: ON the 26th, i.e. the day before the big FKKW 3y party, Irina will turn 26. How about giving her a 50 euro bday present and getting to sample one of the hottest babes all at once ...

euro

Pilot 7
05-22-06, 11:45
Of women I met there, some names I remember:

Anita, Andrea, Anka, Banny, Betty, Carmen, Camilla, Chanel, Diana, Jeannette, Petia/Petra, Jacqueline, Natalie, Samira (was in Palace before, first day in World), Victoria,

Some I know but I didn't see on this friday: Adrienne, Edit, Denise.Nick,

Did you see Natalie from Bulgaria?

I'm planning a trip on the 10 of June and it would be nice if she was there.

Greetings,

Pilot

Nick The G
05-22-06, 18:45
Nick,

Did you see Natalie from Bulgaria?

I'm planning a trip on the 10 of June and it would be nice if she was there.

Greetings,

PilotNo, I haven't seen the light blond sexy Natalie from Bulgaria with that beautiful shaped body after the police payed a visit to the club on May 10th!
Wait till the 27th of May, I'm sure some folks will be at the party in the FKK-World and then you'll get the news if she is there again or not.

Pilot 7
05-23-06, 07:47
No, I haven't seen the light blond sexy Natalie from Bulgaria with that beautiful shaped body after the police payed a visit to the club on May 10th!
Wait till the 27th of May, I'm sure some folks will be at the party in the FKK-World and then you'll get the news if she is there again or not.Scheisse!

Thanks Nick for the info. Hopefully she comes back.

No one else seen her?

Drjoker69
05-24-06, 17:04
WHO
??? Hungarian, 5 ft 10 inches tall, big boned but not fat, real D cup breasts, pale skin, almost black hair. She likes outdoor sex in the garden with everybody watching.

??? Romanian, 5 ft 7 inches tall, skinny, slightly tanned, A/B cup breasts.

WHAT
??? Hungarian, outdoor sex, multiple positions, ran overtime (40 minutes), I paid her 100 Euro and she said "are you sure? I didn't spend 1 hour with you, just 40 minutes" She's real honest. I like that. "Yes," I said. I know some guys would make her stay another 20 minutes because they paid for an hour, but I've already cum, so what am I gonna do? talk to a hooker who barely speaks English? Besides, she was really good at massaging me, feeling me up, and just taking good care of me. Definitely not a "mechanical" experience.

??? Romanian. An Oscar performance for my sadist anal fantasy. We both had a great time and I even did a repeat session at the end of the day. I didn't climax the second time (not her fault) because I had already had 5 sessions already. If you're at the FKK World, be sure to look out for her. She's originally from Romania.

WHEN
day shit, night shift

REVIEW
FKK World has girls who are seasoned pros willing to do anything kinky you desire. I had my first anal and public sex experiences there. The girls there are very attractive, but no lingerie model types. I would say that the chicks there are your good looking girl next door types. There are all manner of non-alcoholic drinks there. The food is less than average. Just some stale soup and some sort of dumpling with meat sauce. Some tough and chewy roast beef completed this meal. It is not catered like at FKK Oase. They have a nice, large outdoor area with a huge outdoor pool and swings where you could have sex on in public with everybody watching. Therefore, if you want kinky sex, FKK World is the place to be.

Ortos
05-24-06, 21:41
"However, this little hustler is gonna get it as she will get no mercy today from me. So I pounded away. This was my first anal sex experience to completion. It was really tight. Now, I know why other men seek this out. I came in like 15 to 20 minutes, it was so tight. I usually last a lot longer than this. All over her body was a cold sweat, she was in so much pain. While I was pounding, she was trying to shift away, but I grabbed her by the waist and pulled her to me so that her ass swallowed my entire peter. I watched as she grabbed the bedsheets with her hands and arched her back while a cold sweat was dripping off her back. This is awesome!!!"

Look, I don't really like getting rude or agressive, but I have to be a bit blunt here:

You really are a sick fuck, aren't you?

How can you really justify this kind of brutal treatment of what might well be some ultra-young Romanian kid who may have made a small mistake. In my opinion your behaviour, regardless of the fact that you think you were being hustled a bit at the start, is offensive.

Maybe this girl was new to the business and was genuinely confused as to the price of your (in her experience) rather novel request? or maybe you yourself were broadcasting very strong signals of being A) a non-German foreigner; B) a first-time FKK-visitor, i.e. a stupid tourist who didn't know any better. She should not be so severely punished for trying a little business savoy here; hell, I would do the same perhaps. And who the fuck are you to act as judge and executioner in this case, I might ask?

Fkking is a high art and playing this game properly needs finese, charm and respect for the opposite sex. At best, you could be described as a crude practioner of the FKK art.

Of course, I offer no personal offence to you. As proof of my good will, I offer the following suggestions:A) you mingt try to gain a little more FKK experience and perhaps change your approach a bit. First try blending in with the locals. B) why not try learning a little German...or is that beyond you?

There is distain, even loathing from some local German guests towards "FKK tourists, " such as you and me. Why should we behave in such barbaric fashion? Isn't it better to perhaps blame ourselves for selecting an inappropriate session partner in the first place.

My last tip: Read Cordelia's recently posted guide to being a decnt chap in the Fkk environment. (Reports of Distinction thread).

You've got a long way to go, baby...

That is, of course, just my humble opinion...many may disagree with me...

Ortos

Tony70
05-24-06, 22:02
"Romanian. She tried to hustle me when I asked for anal. She said, it's 200 Euro. I said, "no", I've been here before. I know it's only 150 (this was my first trip, but thanks to ISG, I knew the prices). She smiled and said, "ok". So, we go to the room. I push my peter in her ass. She screams bloody murder, but you know, I didn't feel guilty since she tried to hustle me earlier"

When I read you report I was quite angry by your attitude towards the women at the FKK clubs. I totally argee with Ortos and also suggest you take a different approach when visiting FKK clubs. Treating a woman like an animal and then admitting to not feeling any guilt is totally out of order.

Like I said POOR SHOW, POOR SHOW.

Euro100
05-25-06, 02:30
I hate to pile on, but I also agree with Ortos. FKKs have a community of their own. If word get out that a guy treats girls badly, he can expect the level of service to drop drastically. In your own interest, please do not treat the girls like a piece of meat. Hurting them because you feel that the asking price is too high is just not acceptable.

Akibono
05-25-06, 04:15
i agree with all the remarks below. if you think you are being hustled, you should end the session. besides, if you had any knowledge of the fkk scene, you would know that anal is one thing where there is no set price. each girl is free to set her price. what you did was virtually [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) some poor romanian girl who need the money and was too scared to end the session. the fact that you derived pleasure from this is pretty sick. i hope i never run into you in one of the clubs. if this was not a fkk, you can be sure the girl will tell her pimp and he would pound your ass in the alley.

Nick The G
05-25-06, 11:54
Therefore, if you want kinky sex, FKK World is the place to be.Anus and Vagina are indeed two different Fucking-WORLDS!

My impression is, you were completely unsure how to proceed and then you chose the macho way. And to me the way you describe the circumstances of your first anal experience sounds a bit sadistic!

If you are unsure how to do it the best way, why not ask the people here in this forum for an experienced service provider?

Next time you go to FKK-World, ask for Betty from Cuba. She is a very nice and pretty woman, likes erotic and seducing conversation.:) She works in the day shift and is very experienced with anal. According to her own words, she likes to do this! :)

Usually, the additional price for anal is 100 Euro, so you have to pay 150 Euro for half an hour or 200 Euro for one hour altogether. If you're looking for special service, it's always better to talk to the woman about the prices before you go to the room.

Part 2: don’t take it too seriously!

Now, Betty is really a special woman! If you're looking for kinky sex, maybe even in public, Betty can help you with an additional experience!

I never tried it with her but she was telling me several times about some special service: She has a plastic penis that she can buckle on! She then gives you the almost authentic anal experience. She will take over the male penetrating function and you will surrender in the receptive female position.

Tell her that you want it hard and deep lasting for 15-20 minutes, without any pretreatment (e.g. digital dilatation) of the anus!

Then you will know how it feels and what this romanian girl most probably experienced with you when you treated her that way: pain in the ass!

But since Betty is an experienced sex worker, I'm sure, independant of who/what is in which hole she will know how to give you lots of pleasure instead of pain! :) And don’t get addicted and forget about the other side, the pussy-WORLD!:)

Drjoker69
05-25-06, 15:29
dudes,

chill out. remember, my handle is drjoker as in dark humor. afterwards, she smiled and asked if i had a good time. i said, "yes, that was a good show.". she said, "thanks." i had another session with her that same day. i didn't write about that session because i was unable to cum. i was too tired. it was my 6th session of the day. i had 5 "real" sessions and my last one (the 6th one) didn't count. if i treated her "like a piece of meat", she would've refused a repeat performance, right? the girls can and do refuse anything they feel uncomfortable with. that's why the girls refused anal play at oase. these girls really know how to please a guy. i mean, they moan and fake orgasms good enough to win an oscar. they also know that guys who like anal play have sadist fantasies. that's why they yelp, wince, and generally fake pain. i assure you, she made sure the peter was very well lubricated, the initial entrance was slow, and she put her hand out to prevent further penetration initially until she relaxed. then, when she was relaxed, she took her hand away and said, "o.k.". but all these descriptions bore you, right? my initial dark humor review was more exciting to read, kinda like a roadside accident, you shouldn't look, but you just have to slow down to sneak a peek :0)

ortos, you're right. i am a sick fuck. but remember, it is a sadist fantasy. i am not really out to hurt the girls. just read my recent review of oase. the girl "betty" had never had anal before at oase. she was in real (not faked) pain with only half the peter inserted, so i stopped. if i was a real sick fuck (not pretend), i would've pounded her. i also had 2 sessions with her, but the second (6th session of the day) was a non-cummer (ugh). yes, i do speak a little german (ich sprechen ein bichen deutsch), took it in high school decades ago. but it's not necessary. you'd probably be better off speaking romanian or russian at the fkks since a lot of the girls are from those areas.

someone said, "if i felt i was being hustled, i should end the session right there." well, like ortos said, maybe she was new and not purposely trying to hustle anybody. hey, she's the only one in my whole life that ever agreed to anal with me, so i'm not going to let this opportunity slip by!

if i was still in germany, i'd buy y'all a round of beers and have a couple of laughs over this. oh, maybe i should delete a portion of my review to avoid getting people all bent out of shape.

have fun dudes,
drjoker69.

Tony70
05-25-06, 18:28
Well Drjoker69,

Your exaggreation of things and then having to explain yourself, has made you look a little silly, hasen't it? Its a shame that you have put yourself in a position where other members have had to comment in a negative way towards your actions you described.

And no you initial "dark humour" wasn't that interesting to read really.....
Describing how one inflicts pain onto another one without guilt couldn't be described as humour, could it?

I do hope that tourist and occasional FKK visitors(like myself) continue to be made welcome.

Optimist
05-25-06, 19:29
Cordelia says:

I have read with interest the latest posts on this thread and have a few helpful (I hope ) comments. I was a bit alarmed by the initial Joker post (now deleted) but heartened by the sensitive (!) responses

Anal is my favourite - quite a few girls won’t offer anal because if the man is unskilled you can be damaged and not be able to work until you heal up. Some guests think that anal is no different to vaginal sex. The main difference is that there is often a greater element of power play fantasy (as Joker now says he was doing). The key point is that if you are into fantasy don’t get it mixed up with reality. If you have a fantasy about really hurting a girl then you need to go to a submissive/slave not an FKK.

As anal is not a standard service in FKKs then you need to find a girl who is good at her job and enjoys anal : you need a higher level of skill from the girl for anal if it is to be anything other than a boring physical workout. Some girls only offer anal because of the money. Many regular girls are able to point out someone who can give you good service (Betty has already been mentioned by Nick, and as I say, I really enjoy it)

Check the price – at FKK girls can charge what the market will bear (so to speak) you can always say no !! Some girls have asked Shiatsu for 200E!!! – needless to say they have left empty handed

If you have a fantasy then talk to your girl – after all FKK is where your dreams can come true- vibrators etc are all part of the fun ( bring your own if you have a special one). If you like a slightly submissive or dominant approach then try this out gently

Technique- (this is how I prefer ). Use a little lubrication (the girl should have this) – not saliva - press your dick firmly against the opening and slowly feel the girl open up for you. Then you can penetrate as deep as you like – don’t take your dick in and out completely (unless or until the girl is really relaxed) as it can hurt and tear the skin- its better to move deep and deeper although you can go fast if you want. Sensitivity and respect will ensure it goes well – even if you are into getting the girl to be submissive you still need to be sensitive to her reactions. Pumping away for 20 minutes may be good aerobic exercise but is not the best sex.

I always ask men to go in slow (both in my pussy and for anal). This is because I am very tight and if you go in too quick not only will you hurt me you may not have a good experience.

Hope this helps – or at least provides some entertainment

Euro100
05-26-06, 01:00
but all these descriptions bore you, right? my initial dark humor review was more exciting to read, kinda like a roadside accident, you shouldn't look, but you just have to slow down to sneak a peek :0)

the whole purpose of this board is to exchange real information. everybody can make up all kinds of stories. but we rely on each other to tell the real stories. bragging to commit a borderline criminal act and then having to retract and retreat is not helpful. or was the first version real and the subsequent retraction and withdrawing of the post the untruth? we will never know....

euro

Euro100
05-26-06, 01:03
Technique- (this is how I prefer ). Use a little lubrication (the girl should have this) – not saliva - press your dick firmly against the opening and slowly feel the girl open up for you.

Cordelia, do you use a lubricant with a painkiller? I have never done anal in an FKK because, frankly, I am too cheap to shell out another c-note for somthing that I do not derive a lot of extra pleasure from. But I did it in Brazil, partially because it is considered to be included in the price of sex at most termas, and because I thought I needed to check it out. And a couple of the girls use lubricant with a numbing agent. To me this seemed silly, because then you cannot feel when your skin starts tearing and it is time to stop.



Hope this helps – or at least provides some entertainment

Absolutely, on both accounts :)
euro

Optimist
05-26-06, 08:09
Euro - definitely no painkiller or numbing - I can't see the point of that. If a girl needs either then she is not relaxing and enjoying it (for some girls it may take a bit of practice). Just my opinion.

In fact I don't always use a lubricant - it depends how careful the man is and how much foreplay there is

As for the rate, remember that it is negotiation

Done properly it is quite different to vanilla sex - for both parties (Shiatsu advises me on male part!)

Cordelia

Optimist
05-26-06, 08:12
Euro - just for info. I have never paid more than 50E (except on one occasion). Remember to negotiate. Most girls willnot go below 100E. The best anal sessions have always been with the girls who charged least!!.

Shiatsu

mastiff
05-27-06, 01:06
Just wanna to know how can I go back to Frankfurt if I stay at the World until very late.

I do not drive and I know how I can go there by train and then taxi. Yet there will be no train service after midnight. Is taxi the only option? How much will it cost? Can I ask the World to make transportation arrangement.

I plan to go to the World and other FKKs at Frankfurt during the World Cup period. Do you think it is wise?

mastiff
05-27-06, 01:52
I asked a question just now but it is gone.

I want to know how I can go back to Frankfurt after midnight when there is no more train service. Is taxi the only choice? How much will it cost?

Will the World make transportation arrangement?

Henio
05-27-06, 12:27
I want to know how I can go back to Frankfurt after midnight when there is no more train service. Is taxi the only choice? How much will it cost?
You can stay until closing and then take the first train in the morning. There are some guys that have done that. I am not sure when it leaves, but think it is about 6am.
Taxi from World to Frankfurt will probably cost close to 100e

Chivaz

Beffen1
05-27-06, 13:29
I've done that many times, more than I care to remember. The first rain on workdays is a 4:40 so leave World by taxi by 4:15, it costs 17 euro for the cab. After that first train there is one about every 20-30 minutes except Sunday morning. You will sit and wait until almost 7 AM for the next train, believe me I know.
beffen

Timber Tree
05-27-06, 13:34
I asked a question just now but it is gone.

I want to know how I can go back to Frankfurt after midnight when there is no more train service. Is taxi the only choice? How much will it cost?

Will the World make transportation arrangement?

I'm not sure how good your driving directions, but it seems it is more practical to just rent a car. I suggest to get a nearby hotel and sleep, then take the train back. Only if the taxi is going to cost 100 Euro.

If you are within the city, taxi is the most convinient not the cheapest.
Works really well if you are inside the city.

When I visit Germany aka visitng the "FKK clubs". I just rent a car and I usually stay in a nearby hotel of a club. So when I leave the club I don't need to drive a long way to my hotel and I can stay late till closing it I want or I can take a taxi, and it would not cost too much.

Since I go to from one city to city, or club to club when I visit. It is less tiring and more relaxing. I also don't want to be dragging my bags by public transportation. I hate to drive back to my hotel when there is a place nearby to stay. I just want a clean room, firm bed, and clean bathroom to sleep.

Euro100
05-28-06, 00:12
Done properly it is quite different to vanilla sex - for both parties (Shiatsu advises me on male part!)


Yeah, maybe. I am just not too much into it. I am not judging anybody, but for me there are better wasy to spend my monger money.


I have never paid more than 50E (except on one occasion).

OK, I still come out ahead. On all four accsoions that I tried it, it was in Rio, and it was always included in the price, the standard in Rio (completa!).

euro

Nick The G
05-28-06, 19:15
Short message style:

Hundreds of men, and many women filling the place. Queues of couples waiting for free rooms in the corrridors.

Unfortunately, bad and cool weather, so all the outside facilities couldn't be used. People had to wait for the buffet for about 1, 5 hours, and the wintergarden became overcrowded. Very good buffet, and starving mongers almost fighting for the food when the doors of the room with the buffet were opened.

All the time terribly loud music by DJ "Kugel" in the Wintergarden. Table dancers and several show acts doing their best for entertainment. Both small Betty Ballhaus and Tina Angel both showing big boobs. Boring for me!

The later the evening, the more I had the feeling of being on a gay party, I could hardly detect a woman between the many men standing around!

Many girls seemed to be disappointed, because guys liked more to watch the shows, to talk to fellow mongers and to drink alkohol.

Natalia from Bulgaria (it was confirmed by others that she had a problem with the police raid on May, 10th), nor Edit or Erika from Hungary were present. Romanian tornado Daniela still at home, but: like on that christmas party in December, beautiful blond Daniela from Romania was there, she usually works in the Palace in Frankfurt and only comes to FKK-World on occasion. "Expanded" Celine, she used to be in Atlantis and later on in Palace, was there. Denise with new, radically short hair cut ("prisoner look").

Managed to find some room quite fast and had some fun with Adrienne from Hungary and Steffi from Romania.

What a pity the bad weather spoiled so much.

Shark16
05-29-06, 02:08
Taxi from World to Frankfurt will probably cost close to 100e

Chivaz

True. But if you make prearrangements with a taxi driver, most of them will do the ride for EUR 65 (fixed price).

Timber Tree
05-29-06, 03:12
I do recall a conversation with one of the girls at the Palace that the fare for the taxi from Palace to Altenstat (It's where Atlantis used to be) was 50 Euro.

Mat the Rat
06-01-06, 10:05
Short message style:

Hundreds of men, and many women filling the place. Queues of couples waiting for free rooms in the corrridors.Yeah, Nick-the-G's report of the anniversary party is correct. I arrived at about 6 pm. When I saw the car park crowded I considered leaving again and heading for another pleasure dome. However, I thought that probably the other places, like Palace, would be very slow for that evening (as NtG confirmed that Palace girls where at World). So I decided to take the risk.

On entereing my first impression was quite bad. Very loud music, very crowded. You could hardly find a free seat on the sofa. So I was a bit annoyed and walked downstairs. When I saw the queues in front of the rooms I regretted again to have come. However, in the end everything was to turn out to be worth the time and money.

First, I had a very nice session with one of the girls. Ok, we had to wait for a room for a few minutes, but that wasnt too bad. After the session I saw the show with a different perspective. At other weekends, time between sessions can be a bit boring, but when there is party time you have lots of entertainment in between. So I enjoyed the whole evening.

Food was excellent with a wide selection of fish, meat, salads, fruit, sweets etc. Very nice. Of course it can be annoying if you have to wait for 1 or 2 hours for the buffet to open, but since it was pretty late when I arrived at 6 pm I missed most of this queuing at least ;-)

I can understand the girls being annoyed. After all, they come to make money. If you have hundreds of potential customers but the guys not having sex on their mind and you still have to wait a long time for free rooms, it is a bad night from their perspective. However, because of the rooms being crowded most of the time, I think that they still made good business.

And for me, the best part of the evening was yet to come: at the big tombola I won a free ticket for World. So, what a night: Enjoying a good session, good meal and a great show - and all basically for free. That is what I call a good deal :D

Beffen1
06-02-06, 02:27
Yeah, there was some crowd at the big World Party Saturday. Congratulations to Michael and the great World crew for yet another great affair. As Dedalus drove mysself and Fred to the club around 4 PM, we spied a convoy of 5 polizei vans driving on the exit road off the autobahn, but driving away from World. We called ahead and all was well but were we worried!

The crowds made mongering for me very difficult. This was not my finest hour. I did not session all night. My darling Daniella was in attendence, forsaking her usual haunt at Palace for the chance to process men all night and that she did. If it is slow, she will take her time with me but in a crowded party night, I knew she wouldn't so I watched as she made room after room after room. At least 4 of my buddies went with her. The crowd in the dining room was total chaos for the first 90 minutes after the food was served. I spent a lot of time in the downstairs bar. I am falling in love with Franceska.

It was great, however, to meet the Irish pussy man and especially Routard and his friend. ISG members were well represented in the tombola winners.

beffen

Mike De H
06-03-06, 16:32
I can understand the girls being annoyed. After all, they come to make money. If you have hundreds of potential customers but the guys not having sex on their mind and you still have to wait a long time for free rooms, it is a bad night from their perspective. However, because of the rooms being crowded most of the time, I think that they still made good business.


I presume you mean the guys are watching the show and chatting with their freinds, which is why sex would not be on their minds?

My impression at party night however is that the girls are more likely to get tired and stick to watching the (in my opinion moronic) show, and end up just dancing with their mates.

Somebody has yet to explain to me why watching some ugly silicon titted bimbo shove a dildo up her is more exciting or interesting than putting yuor own dildo up a beautiful girl of yuor choice. Or indeed why I should want to watch a man in a dress who can neither sing nor dance; mimng to those dreadful records is in any way competition to 50 or so naked real women, who often dance rather well.

All a bit beyond me I am afraid.

Routard
06-03-06, 18:07
And for me, the best part of the evening was yet to come: at the big tombola I won a free ticket for World. So, what a night: Enjoying a good session, good meal and a great show - and all basically for free. That is what I call a good deal :D

And guess who won the first price of the big tombola...
Believe it or not...:D :D :D

Beffen1
06-04-06, 15:48
the 3rd anniversary fkk world party day dawned rainy like all the rest. dedalus arrived at the hotel from his amsterdam gig around 3 pm and he fred and i were off to the races up the traffic-less a5. as we exited the autobahn, a convoy of 5 polizei vans went by going away from the club. could this be another razzia? dedalus called ahead to the club and found that all was well. the desk people were a little frazzled and i soon saw why. the place was as mobbed as i’d ever seen it, with everyone crammed inside due to the shitty weather.

as we entered the locker room, i didn’t see very many girls parading through getting paid and grabbing towels for their shower. (sausage fest). then two dutch acquaintances greeted me. three more were expected. as i changed to shower, a fellow came up- uh are you beffen?? yes, pleased to meet you, routard, who i had arranged to meet from isg. the locker was so crowded that the club stationed a bouncer at the entrance to the shower right next to my locker, making hornitos runs very scary. another new friend appeared, irish pussy man, another guy from the isg board, a real character. wim, however, wisely stayed in amsterdam in view of the shitty weather.

i showered up and made my way into the wintergarten, which was mobbed as expected. sorry to say i was not that impressed at the 4:30 lineup. anka was present, looking absolutely stunning with her deep dark tan and helmut newton- model body, but i didn’t see anyone else to float my boat. daniella was expected from palace, but she is coming to process men as quickly as possible, and the likelihood of her taking the time for a slow, pampering, drawn out foreplay type of session that i want are nil. sure enough, as she arrived around 6pm, i watched daniella bang out session after 30 minute (or less) session including dedalus, desert fox, routard, two of the dutch guys, each time i ran into her i got a knowing smile or a brief caress, you go girl! for me at least, daniella is a girl for the slow times, basically when she has nothing better to do, that’s when i will partake of her charms. petite and tight hungarian martina was looking adorable but she doesn’t speak english so i passed on her yet again. long tall polish jaqueline was around with a foxy milf sporting c-cups and another lovely ice queen polish princess who may not have sessioned all night, like me. fred of course, managed to keep quite busy.

as they served the food there was chaos with two lines going in four directions. it took 90 minutes before i could get anything, and even then i was crammed into a corner behind the salad bar and desert table so i could eat relatively unmolested standing against the wall. the entertainment was the usual blend of cabaret performers in drag, fire dancers, brazilian samba dancers and the local chubby german stamgaste dressed in his thong shaking his wang on stage. gross. except for all my buddies being around i felt that this was not the highest and best use of my time. dedalus told of a pervert who was peeking into rooms, asking probing questions about other mongers’ sessions, and generally being creepy. i found him in the hallway, just listening outside one of the curtained rooms near the pool. a variety of swarthy surly macho men guests abounded in the hallways and at one point i banged my shin on the bloody table by the cigarette machines requiring a bandage from reception.

much of the time was spent in the relax zone bar, where desert fox was holding court as we mongers came and went and ruth and the hot body builder franceska took care of us. this was also a favorite haunt of jaqueline and her friends, who enjoy a cocktail from time to time. i roamed the club many times, “trying to get into trouble” as we say, but to no avail. try as i might, i could not find the girl to get me going. the tunisian/german bouncy [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) chanel was looking very fuckable in her goofy black glasses, but she gives me no quarter everytime i try and make contact. fred, did you do her at all that evening? her pole dance was one of the erotic highlights of the evening for me. camilla from iran was looking attractive as well but …….steffie, i should have done steffie.

tombola time came and through the first half i ignored this prize drawing. . it was the usual interminable affair, with many numbers being called and unclaimed. then i went and i got my ticket from my locker and three times, numbers within 3 of mine were called. it seems the winners all got their tickets on party day. finally, my new friend routard, with a number two away from mine, won the grand prize- two vip tickets to the holland vs someone world cup game which he promptly traded for five free entry passes to the club and bottle of champaign.

so, basically i spent the 3rd anniversary fkk world party sitting in the relax zone or the bar alone or with friends, taking saunas, spectating in the wintergarten, stuffing my face with the copious and varied buffet, watching the occasional couch action, and sighing in loneliness for there were no new lovely little [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) to tempt my todger. the raid had taken care of that. my current favorite olga, was still on vacation and daniella, another favorite was into making money at the rate of greater than 100 euro per hour. oh well, i still have two more days of mongering in germany, and that’s a lot of entertainment for 50 euro (i used my 15 euro discount card that i won last trip). we closed the place at 5 am. i arranged to meet routard in giessen monday morning to ride west with him to golden time. fred, ded, and i bid farewell to a very happy desert fox, who had reunited briefly with his ex-wife elise at 4:30, and by six am, we sat down to the super excelsior/monopol breakfast buffet after checking our emails in the business center. then it was off to bed. sunday, it’s the palace.

Dedalus
06-04-06, 19:31
Daniella was expected from Palace, but she is coming to process men as quickly as possible, and the likelihood of her taking the time for a slow, pampering, drawn out foreplay type of session that I want are nil. Sure enough, as she arrived around 6PM, I watched Daniella bang out session after 30 minute (or less) session including Dedalus, Desert Fox, Routard, two of the Dutch guys, each time I ran into her I got a knowing smile or a brief caress, you go girl! For me at least, Daniella is a girl for the slow times, basically when she has nothing better to do, that’s when I will partake of her charms.

Hey Beffen,

You describe the World Party pretty much as I remember it. I must say though that I got a great session out of Daniela and that she would never dream of rushing me through a love tryst. I think that Fox was pretty happy as well. I know that not everyone got the red carpet treatment that I got from her, and that's such a shame ;-)))

Cheers,

Dedalus

Euro100
06-07-06, 10:35
the tunisian/german bouncy [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) chanel was looking very fuckable in her goofy black glasses, but she gives me no quarter everytime i try and make contact. fred, did you do her at all that evening? her pole dance was one of the erotic highlights of the evening for me.

hi beffen,

i was at fkkw on sunday and routard was there and told me about all of his (and your) anniversary party adventures. must have been interesting!

i had done chanel on one of my previous visits and did not get much chemistry going with her. routard tried her last sunday and had pretty much the same experience. but, still, optically she is great. routard was happy. as she walked by (wearing high heels again now after her ankle injury is better), routard said to me: "can you believe i fucked that package?" i felt the same. .... just don't expect gfe ... ;)

routard, we are still waiting for your anniversary party posting!

i am still working on my post for last sunday. did a very nice 100euro session with irina, before her another russian whose name i forgot, and before her ina/ines, the blond who always lounges around at the leather chair closest to the upstairs bar (she was forgetable, by the way). but i had a much better experience at oase on tuesday; so i will probably not post much about my fkkw romp.

routard, say hi to your fkk-virgin-no-more buddy. he did jenna, a blond petite german spinner who only works on the weekends, as his virgin-eraser. what a great choice! he will always remember her.

cheers
euro

Mike De H
06-07-06, 17:59
I had done Chanel on one of my previous visits and did not get much chemistry going with her. Routard tried her last Sunday and had pretty much the same experience.

I confirm, she is the classic optikfuck. Total starfish. Fred of course sings her praises but he is the only one that gets GFE from her, supposedly.

I came in 20 mins with her sh was so good looking and was the first of the night. ST interviewed her and ran away after about two minutes. "teeny bop german" I believe he said.

Total shame, because she is a nice girl really.

Routard
06-07-06, 21:05
My FKK tour started with the 27th of May FKK World’s Birthday party. I was with an FKK virgin pal. There was some confusion with the address I entered in my GPS, as I discovered that there was both a Grüninger Strasse and a Grüninger Weg in Pohlheim. The exact one is the later of course. At arrival in the middle of the afternoon, parking P1 and P2 were already full. A guard indicated us a third parking lot at 400m with a shuttle service. It was the first time that I saw visible security guards at FKK World. German efficiency, everything was well organised. I was worried however, as all this indicated an unusual quantity of customers to expect.

In the shower I bumped into Beffen and his buddy, we introduced ourselves fully naked. Needless to say, my FKK virgin pal was impressed, he was discovering my secret life but didn’t expect it to be that extensive. Once inside, there were probably 50 to 60 girls and already about 100 to 120 customers. During the evening, there were probably 200 to 400 customers at the same time. I heard they made about 600 entries that night. Word’s facilities are huge, but as it was too cold to use the outdoor facilities, 400 people is way too much inside. The girls/customer ratio was way too bad, I sometimes wondered if I was not in a gay sauna. The main room area was over crowded and over smoked, it was hard to get food in the dining room and there was a waiting time to get a room. The girls behind the bar had too much job and were stressed all night. The girls also had sometimes unusual aggressive attitude. One even shouted to me:” don’t touch me!” when I made my routine approach. She seemed to be in the middle of an argument with one of the customers. I didn’t blame the girls for that, there were simply to much customers. Also the management had put great efforts in the party, and everything was perfectly organised. There was continuous entertainment in the main area. But who cares to look for a strip show when there are 60 naked girls around, and who cares for a fake sex show when there is genuine sex in the kino area? Let’s put it like that, the party was great, but I simply prefer a more relaxed atmosphere.

I feel also uncomfortable criticizing the party when I was the one who won the first price of the main tombola. Yes, this was a great moment. When I was handed over the first price in front of the crowd of FKK World, for a second I dreamt the girls had chosen me for the best mongerer of the year award! It was a VIP ticket for World Cup match in Frankfurt Holland against Argentina (a remake of the final from 1978). Needless to say, the dutch guys from hooker.nl were green of envy and came to congratulate me. I received also a FKK World bottle of Champagne But the moments of glory were short as I realized I would not be in Europe for the match. The ticket was delivered on my name only, and I could not give it or sell it to somebody else. How would I explain this at home? “Guess what honey, I passed by the biggest brothel of Europe for a drink and I received this price! Yes, I will go back next month again to Frankfurt. Aren’t you happy for me? Let’s drink the bottle of Champagne. What’s the matter? Is it the picture of the naked girl on the bottle?”. Once in the office, I discussed with the boss and explained I wouldn’t be there for the match. He offered me to pay it back with cash money instead. Of course, I knew the street value was 10 times higher than the initial price, but anyway, I couldn’t sell it. So I accepted. He also gave me 5 entry tickets for FKK World. As it was the first time I had the opportunity to discuss with him, I congratulated him for his Club that I consider to be one of the best in the world. Anyway, I was very happy. For the first time ever, I left a brothel richer than when I entered!

But let’s get back to the sex. I had three sessions that night. One was with Daniella, a Romanian top star that Beffen introduced to me. Beffen did the right thing and preferred to wait for the next day. She probably had already more than 20 customers before and her pussy was on fire for sure. Routine approach was when she was waiting with a customer for a room, not very romantic of course. She fucked me out of the room after less than 10 minutes. A second session was with a German girl I don’t even remember. Two bad sessions out of 3, I never had such a bad ratio before in FKK.

But here the best part. I had already spotted from the beginning the most beautiful girl of that night. She is the exact latina of my dreams, a perfect firm tanned body, long beautiful hair, incredible eyes and a very nice smile. She made eye contact time each time as if she knew me, but I didn’t recognize her, even if her face looked familiar to me. I would have remembered such a beautiful girl if I knew her, right? As eye contact was not enough, she came to me and said “No me reconoces?”. I instantly recognized Cuban Banny, and apologized. Incredible, she had changed so much in 6 month. I remembered a nice pretty Cuban girl, but here I was in front of one of the sexiest girl I could dream of. She had changed her hair and she had lost weight. But what surprised me most is how she could have recognized me if I hardly could recognize her after 6 month. And here comes the best part of the story. She said: “Me gusta mucho lo que te escribes”…

I have received plenty of pm from active and silent members congratulating for my posts, and even guys I met in FKK that remember my posts, but this was the very first time a girl congratulated me for my writings. I couldn’t imagine better reward. Well, Banny could imagine a better reward, and she gave it to me in the room! Banny has such an excellent attitude, she was probably the only girl that night that was not affected by the overall stressed atmosphere. Unfortunately, she left the Club at 10pm, leaving me alone in the middle of the crowd and the crazy atmosphere. I came back the following week to see her again, but unfortunately, she was not there. “Un seul être vous manque et tout est dépeuplé”. Lamartine.

Beffen1
06-08-06, 01:02
Routard-
It was nice to meet you and your compadre in the shower, you were one of about 4 guys I greeted in that way on entry. Talk about hectic. I detect a pattern in your activities at Oase and at World- two lackluster Europeans and then you find a hot Latina to rescue the day.

Euro, Mike -
I know Chanel is a starfish- I just can't take my eyes off her. If she'd just speak a word or two of English.... I want to lick the starfish's starfish! Euro- enjoyed your Oase tale of tail.

Dedalus-
How insecure am I? I even thought Daniella was too busy at Palace on Sunday! Did she ever get her piece of cake?

beffen

Dedalus
06-08-06, 01:23
alicia vs. inna
world/oase/ weekend may 6

it was a goal-oriented weekend. having heard nothing but raves about a certain spanish wonder named alicia at world, and knowing that the bulgarian beauty inna would be at oase, there was a high probability of a successful weekend fkk-fest.

i met fred and another enthusiastic fkker at the monopol saturday afternoon. proper introductions were made and world was chosen as the destination of the day. it was a grand day to enjoy the facilities of world. finally some sunshine and warmth! apparently we missed the party celebrating the opening of the outdoor area by one day. the grill was fired up and people were frolicking around the pool.

i spotted samantha (the hungarian with the huge… physical attributes). samantha has always been a great session and i figure that she would be a great way to start the day. she did not disappoint.

as i sat down next to samantha, a sexy, dark-haired, lady with a belt around her waist parked herself on the couch next to us. this beauty fit the description people had been giving me for alicia. hmmm. i was pretty much committed to samantha and it would have been the height of bad manners to get up and go sit next to the object of my desires. i just had to hope that she would not be swamped for the rest of the day.

samantha was great as usual but enough has been written about her and she is a relatively minor player in this weekend’s play. nonetheless:

name: samantha
hair: blonde
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: d breasts, also very nice legs, quite well proportioned!
origin: hungary
born: ~ 1978?
service: bbbj, pse-gfe
location: fkk world, for now.


after my samantha session, i ran into fred who said that he saw alicia and that she should be done with a customer pretty soon. he was clearly intrigued by this lady and i graciously told him to take his turn when she appeared, but that he should send her directly to see me afterward. also this would give me a little more recovery time after my acrobatics with samantha.

fred was a good soldier and did his duty.
i thought right away that alicia was every bit the looker that people had made her out to be. she came off a little distant, but in a very sexy manner. when she beamed me with a come hither, introductory smile i was hooked! this lady was certainly fulfilling my sex-appeal expectations. i mean a real showstopper.

we made our way downstairs to one of the rooms (the larger one close to the red bull and cigarette machines. i asked her how long she had been working in germany and she responded that she had not much experience as a sex-worker, but was very experienced in sex. her english is not that great (also no german) but the way that she rendered this last statement led me to believe that i was in for a treat. she did not waste any time. most fkk girls, even the good ones, start a session on the bed. 9 times out of 10, if a girl starts working on you before the two of you get horizontal then you’ve got a winner. this has been my experience at least. we spent a good 5 minutes exploring each other in the biblical sense while standing. she was frugal with the kissing at first, but this would slowly change throughout the session and indeed throughout the evening. she finally sprawled herself on the bed and began to work on dedalus jr. while i stayed upright, all the while keeping those all-pro legs spread, allowing me some fun finger action. alicia has a great body! her tastefully enhanced, c-cups have that classic “champagne cup” shape and standing above that luxurious and lustful spanish sex-bomb while she was writhing away was pure ecstasy.

after finally getting horizontal myself, alicia maneuvered a pretty delicious twat over me which i eagerly dined on. she’s a tasty one. the sex itself was no less stupendous. this girl is just plain good. also quite affectionate! this is a trait that i was not expecting given some of the reports that i had read on the german board. we explored cowgirl, missionary and spoon, with each position more enjoyable than the pervious. we finished at just about 30 minutes on the nose. 50 euros very well spent.

name: alicia
hair: dark
size: ~ 1,55 m
figure: c breasts enhanced, great legs, a stone sexy body!
origin: spain
born: 1978
service: bbbj, pse-gfe
location: fkk world, earlier finca erotica, gone now, but not forgotten.

there were a number of lovelies present that night. german andrea, sonja, manuela, cordelia, jeanette, plus many others. i was pretty sure that alicia would be my “port of call” for the rest of the evening, but sonja and her new breasts were looking pretty fine. desert fox arrived and looked like a man with a purpose when he set his peepers upon sonja. i caught the two of then at the bar downstairs. their “interaction” was both funny and “provocative”. if i did not interface with this girl on this evening, then a future visit to this romanian honey would have to happen soon.

while sonja led fox away for what i assume were some language lessons, i went off to find miss alicia for another round. fred seemed to be doing well. i am pretty sure it was at this point that i saw fred with chanel and andrea. he was looking at me and muttering “help”. he was saying this in such a way that only a proud man with two attractive sweets would do. i received a nice and tempting invitation from andrea to join them but figured that three is company, four is a crowd. however the threesome idea did seem captivating.

found alicia and whisked her away for another wild romp. by this point, i was considering a move to spain. i was also trying to figure out how to get back to world during the next week to see this girl again before she left for home. knowing that this would be difficult i booked her for a third and, in fact a fourth session later on. gents, i have never devoted so many resources, both physical and monetary to one fkk lady. in a way i am glad that she went back to spain, otherwise i would be in the poorhouse by now.

alicia also provided another highlight that evening when she figured out a way to cure dessert fox of his case of romanian-sleeping-sickness. at the end of our last session she went outside to find a light for her cigarette. she came back and told me that my friend was dead asleep on the couch across from the cigarette machine and that even the feel of her two perfect breasts in his eyes and on his nose and lips was not enough to arouse him from his slumber. we left the room and, sure enough, fox was out cold. despite the proud look on fox’s face after his sonja-session, it would seem that this girl lost the battle but won the war.

after i gave alicia her hard earned funds i went back downstairs to check on fox’s sleeping progress. both fred and i saw sonja and asked her what it was that she did to that boy. alicia reappeared and had a good laugh when she saw fox, fred and myself sitting together on the couch; fox still off in dreamland. she again did her best to awaken him with her accoutrements. a classic scene that will stay in fred’s and my memories for a while involves fox’s head, alicia’s boobs, and a towel. fox acted disturbed but he did start to stir a bit. when he found out that she was spanish, he started to engage her in her native tongue which seemed to score him some points. 4:30 am arrived and fox was awake but looking pretty spent. alicia mentioned to him that it is her last day (a little, white lie) and his last chance to play with her. suddenly fox becomes wide-eyed, says “really? let’s go then.” and springs to his feet. alicia looked at fred and me, smiled and pumped her fist in triumph. it was somewhat impolite of fred and me to sit there for 25 minutes waiting and spying, but both of us were curious to know if fox, or lazarus as i took to calling him would be able to consummate his mission. alicia’s moans, a few minutes before closing time settled the question.

great night for me! great weekend actually. the next day fred and i went to oase to visit inna for a comparison test. for me it is a tough call as to who won that race. i think that fred’s opinion is already a matter of public record. alicia gets the nod from me. even a great talent like inna should has some stiff competition now and then.

cheers,

dedalus

Dedalus
06-08-06, 01:26
fkkworld: 3 years anniversary party

the long anticipated world anniversary party has come and gone. fred and beffen and i made the pohlheim journey that saturday with plans to hook up with d. fox and a few others board folk; as well as a number of world beauties.

a semi-funny thing happened as we were driving to pohlhiem. after exiting the autobahn we saw a convoy of about six police vans coming from the direction of world. i remember saying to beffen and fred something like “this can’t be good.” the vans seemed to be empty but there has been something in the air for a few weeks now about a possible world razzia on the day of the party. i dialed the club just to make sure that they were still open and that the party was still on. “aber naturlich!” was the answer and a quick look at the full parking areas seemed to confirm this. i lucked out and got a spot in the back lot, but i have never seen so many cars at world, or any other club for that matter. considering all of the rumors, i was not expect that there would be this many party guests. my fellow travelers can correct me if my estimates are off, but i am guessing that there were about 250-350 male guests and around 50-70 members of the fairer sex. my low-end estimates for the males and high-end for the ladies, are during the late afternoon/early evening times and the late night/early morning times saw the most guests and fewer girls. since the weather was so terrible, this meant that everyone would be indoors. talk about a crowd!!! we got our locker keys and slippers (new ones, i think) and commenced to prepare for the party.

i have to say right off that my highest compliment for the day/evening goes to the world staff. they did a great job dealing with so many guests, all things considered. the dining situation was indeed chaotic and whether or not this was due to the poor weather or poor planning, i cannot say. however the personnel did a darn good job dealing with a bunch of impatient, thirsty, hungry, and horny guests in my opinion. ruth, annette, and francesca were great and always had a smile to give. one exception was toward the shank of the evening when franzi unloaded on some guy who tried to enter the clubroom in street cloths. this is a cut lady and the harsh tone in her voice made that guy sprint back into the locker room with a terrified look on his face.

the dance acts were ok and tina angel and bettie ballhaus (aka tranni-boy) did an ok if at times annoying job of emceeing the evening. tina angel is a mammoth-breasted pornstar with closed ties to world. i guess that she is a turn-on for some. in my humble opinion, the best pole dancing of the evening was when chanel got onstage and began to dance her ass off. not sure what a session with her is like, but she has a great body and from her dance performance one can gather that she may have some idea of how to use it.

last but not least, thong-boy, known to many world regulars, was often struttin’ his ample stuff on stage. you gotta hand it to a guy who is so as home in his own skin that he doesn’t think twice about making an jackball of himself in front of 500 people.

to da girls:

saw almost immediately a number of good choices for the evening. martina from hungary, jacqueline from poland, anna from poland, irina from russia, katharina from russia, camilla from turkey, daniela from romania (no, not the tornado, but the palace daniela. blonde, tall, heart-stopping, stone-sexy body), jasmine from hungary, donna (either macedonian or from the former yugoslavia depending on who she is lying to at that moment. more importantly, one should look for the mega-blond with the mega tits and eyelashes and the big cross tattoo on her back. use to work at oase and now shuffles between palace and artemis.), samantha from hungary, anka from romania, olga from latvia, and on and on…
on the missing persons’ list was the romaniantornado, ogla (russia), edith (hungary), and a number of missing girls who may be gone due to the recent raids. still, a pretty strong line-up.

beffen was on tenterhooks that olga would be there and it seemed to take some wind out of his sails when we heard that she was still on vacation. fred fixed upon anna shortly after our arrival and was soon off enjoying her talents. daniela was looking petty sweet and i was trying to decide between her and martina. when danni came through the main clubroom sporting her white, knee-high fuck-me boots, heads started to turn and the vultures started hovering. i figured that it was either get her now or hop on a never-ending waiting list.

i cornered miss daniela before the other hovering dudes could descend. during or room wait we had an encounter with some guy who thought it was ok club etiquette to start an extensive interview of not only daniela but myself as well. dude, if you’re out there, that’s my time. also while i don’t mind talking about some personal things to strangers at a club, there is a right time to exchange information and you missed it daddy-o. also going around to the different rooms and peeking through drawn curtains is something that only a real *******, nut-job does. if someone is having sex in the kino, then watching them is fair game. if a couple goes into the room and shuts the door or draws the curtain, then this means that they don’t want do to include you in any way. forgive the rudeness, but you are a skull-hammering douche-bag and if you are wondering why daniela and others were avoiding you the whole night, it is because everyone found you to be a creepy bastard. do yourself a favor and read cordelia’s guide to being a good guest and don’t be too nosy with strangers. and further more, don’t be so naïve to think that you can make these girls orgasm. i am not saying that it never happens, but a pretty young darling at world, or any other club is more likely to orgasm at the sight of a thick wallet than a thick….

sorry for the rant, gents. back to daniela. getting her while she was fresh was a good move. enough has been written about her in palace reports and i am not sure that there is much that i can add. i will say that she was a good as any other session that i have had with her and maybe a little better. the white boots were a nice and sexy touch. i am also happy to report that despite the helter skelter nature of the evening, i was not in the least rushed. she took her time and made it a marvelous, sensuous, sweaty sexual workout. quite a contrast to the way she began to process-fuck a few unfortunates as the evening progressed, which i guess is a shame. not a bad way to start the evening.

name: daniela
hair: blonde.
size: ~ 1,80 m
figure: slender, b sized breast, long slender legs.
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1982
service: bbbj, kissing, gfe to pse.
location: normally palace, special party appearance at world

fox arrived later and after a nice chat and a drink or two, i was all too happy to introduce him to the glorious daniela who i think, judging from the tickled look on his kisser afterward, took good care of his needs.

an attempt was made to enjoy the spread of eats that was laid out for us, but the scene in the dining area was massively chaotic. that was poor planning and a big negative for the evening. in my opinion, the spread was tasty (i know others who had a different opinion) but it was like trying to eat in a crowded subway car. again, the service-personnel did a great job. it was just poor planning on someone’s part.

i had an unfortunate experience with a favorite of mine. i was pleasantly surprised to see donna and her “two friends” at the party and thought that my evening was made. after she collected her winnings from some lucky dude, i asked her if she had time for an old benefactor. she smiled and said sure, so i waited for her to freshen up. to my surprise, five minutes later i saw her chatting up some germans who i know to be regulars of hers. no problem, for fidelity is an important part of any business, just as long as she headed my way after saying hi to them. well, i was more than a bit put off when she ran of to a room with one of those dudes. now i may not contribute as much to donna’s scholarship fund as those guys, but my contributions are significant. at the time i was pretty irritated but as the evening trudged on, i noticed that she was in “hit and run” mode and i would later hear that the donna who can be a stone, rockin’ sexpot was not in attendance that evening. things have a way of working out for the best.

this would be the first of two cases of being left behind by a favorite of mine. the second one, i will not go into details about and again, as it turns out everything worked out for the best. i will say that there is an etiquette that does, or at least should exist among us gents and we should all try to adhere to it, even in a chaotic party atmosphere.

toward the evening’s end i started to notice that camilla was looking particularly appetizing. i mentioned this to fred who, having noticed my earlier difficulties grabbed camilla as she was coming out of the ladies’ changing room and guided her in my direction. off to hunt for that elusive free room we went.

camilla gets nervous when waiting for a room and a wait was inevitable. i spent 15 to 20 minutes trying to get her to chill out and relax. i think that it is an infectious mentality that gets into the girls’ (even the best ones) mentality during an event like this one. idle time is wasted time and time is money for the girls. even a trooper like camilla was in that zone. once we got to a room she did relax and we had a good session if not a spectacular one. camilla is a sweet girl and a bad session from her is probably not possible. still, i believe that her talents are best enjoyed in a more relaxed club atmosphere.

name: camilla
hair: dark, short
size: ~ 1,75 m
figure: slender, a sized breast, long slender legs.
origin: iranian/turkish
born: ~ 1982
service: bbbj, quasi gfe, good club standard
location:world

that would do it for the evening. i am sure that the evening was a windfall for the world management but with so many guests and such poor weather, it was just too crowded and even a huge club like world was not equipped to deal with it. it was quite a contrast to the faschings party which seemed much better organized and a much better atmosphere. still, both sessions of the night (especially the one with daniela!) were quite good and the camaraderie enjoyed with the other gents was exemplary. i won’t eschew fkk parties from now on, but i think two rules may apply for me from now on:

-get there early and session early while the girls are fresh.
-either leave early or give up on the idea of having your “best ever fkk girl rendezvous” and just enjoy the party.

the disco club “cookys” might be a better option.

cheers,

dedalus

Dedalus
06-08-06, 01:28
Dedalus-
How insecure am I? I even thought Daniella was too busy at Palace on Sunday! Did she ever get her piece of cake?

beffen

Hey Man,

She did indeed. I passed on a session that night as Julia and Tiffany plum wore me out.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Henio
06-09-06, 10:56
this report may be a bit detailed and too long, but i was held up at the airport for four hours and had nothing better to do.

by some very unexpected and strange turn of events earlier this week, i found my ass in frankfurt with some time to spend. i had a tough decision to make, what club to visit. palace came to mind for it’s convenience. oase is not that far and has a couple of sure thing regulars for me. but i was taken by anka my last couple of visits to world and as i had somewhat limited time (one day), i was not willing to try my luck to much on palace as i really do not have a sure thing going there in terms of mind blowing experience. oh, what a dilemma, oase or world. dilemma solved: i will go to both, starting with world.

arrived at world early afternoon. couple of guys waiting for the third to get the 3 for 2 deal that they have going on some days. nice start, just saved me some euros. showered and explered the place to find it seriously lacking talent. did not recognise a single face there. about 5-10 girls and 5-10 customers. the girls were in the 3d class category. two of three things combined will restrain me going with a girl. fat, old and ugly. i can deal with one of those, that is i have no problem going with fat, young and pretty girls. i have no problem going with old pretty ladies in good shape, and i have no problem going with somewhat ugly girls if their body is good and they are relatively young, but two out of three just gives me a performance problem. this particular afternoon seemed to have all the girls fit into the two or three for three. well, let’s hang out for a while and see what turns out.

there was no sight of anka and i decided to wait until early night before i would bail for oase. after about an hour, i see this relatively decent looking girl getting in and sitting on one of the sofas. she looks good from the distance and i make a couple of walk-bys. she does not look all that great up close, probably in her 30’s, but her body looks ok, and her face is not all that bad. what the hell, i need to release so let’s she if she is at least a decent optifick. i start talking with her and the vibe is not so good. “dude”, i think to myself, “don’t be so damn picky, some of the average looking can give the best performance, just go for it”. in this case: wrong

the stats:
name: inna (or something like that)
origin: riga, latvia
hair: dark, frizzy curls
face: ok, shows some wear and tear
body: slim, b cup breasts, some gravity effect, but nothing serious.
tatoos: none that i noticed
performance: crap

inna claims she has only been working at world for couple of weeks, but i have noticed her before (as it turns out she's been there for a long time and is a documented bad session). we go to a room and immedietly she wants to go for the bj. “not so fast dear” i think and try to get her laying down on her back. she does not want to and this struggle continues for a minute until i ask her “what is wrong?” “nothing” she says, “why do you not want blowjob” she then asks. i then explain to her that things do not have to go so fast and i would like to explore her body a bit before the main event. she does not seem to get it at all and continues to strategaly position her body in a way that it is hard for me to get my hands on it. her pussy was able to misterycally dissappear whenever my hand roamed in the area. kissing this girl was out of the question on her account, and after this introduction to her performance and attitude, i did not feel any urge to pursue the issue. what to do? i thought about aborting the session, but my vanity had the upper hand, i am both arrogant and egoistic (no to mention vain) and think i can turn any situation around. it was not gonna happen this time.

finally i gave her the go for the bj. it was very shallow, but suprisingly soft and actually kind of good. to much hand though which i was able to get her to stop using. after about 3 minutes of bj: “you want condom?” she asks. “no, i don’t want condom, continue bj” i say. “why you not want sex?” she asks. “fuck, just continue the bj and shut up” i think getting kind of pissed off. thought about telling her i really did not like her and did not feel like having sex with her, but did not have the heart for it. “you want to come in my mouth?” she then asks. pause...”yes” i say.

my sperm inventory turnover has been quite low the last few days and i had a nice little safety stock going. the devil inside me got the better of me and i decided to have her working for her money. “you know, it might be a lot of cum” i told her with a somewhat fake worried expression. “no problem” she said. i have her giving me bj for 15 minutes and when i felt ready, i went up on my knees and leaning back i got a good look at her progress. i started to come and i could sense that she wanted to bail out. “keep going please” i politely instructed and she did. a famous sentence from another poster on another board came to mind: “with a frantic look of a chipmunk with one too many acorn in his mouth” and i started laughing, mostly to myself, but some giggling was heard and she looked at me in disdain and disposed of the sperm into a roll of paper. “this was a lot” she told me with a disaproval in her voice. “i told you so” i replyed. i think both of us were relieved it was over. 0 of 1 for chivaz and somewhat shattered ego.

after shower and a look at the food (which looked pretty bad) i ate one breadroll and chilled out a little in the pool area. it was middle afternoon and i thought i would give it until 5 pm, and if anka would not turn up by that time, i would bail for oase. went up again around 4:30 pm, and the situation had not improved, but wait, there was one exotic looking number there. i soon learned that this was the much reported chanel from tunis. shit man, she really looks great, i just have to have me some of that

the stats:
name: chanel
origin: tunis (germany the last 15 years)
hair: dark
face: extremely pretty
body: just a tad plumb, but great proportions. perfect c cups
tatoos: none that i can remember
performance: good

chanel seemed a little bit worried or disinterested when i started to speak to her and called over janette as a translator. chanel asked if i wanted two girls but i denied. she then had janette explain that as she was rather new she did not speak english. i knew that she is not that new. although the english part may be right (my german was better than her english so we continued the show from here on in german). somehow she seemed reluctant to go with me and i felt she was genuinly worried or just disliked me for some reason. another blow to the ego, but i just had to have me some of them tits and pursued so off we went.

when in room, she also wanted to take charge just like inna. this time i was not gonna have any of that and i asked her to relax, i would not bite, and actually was going to be very very nice to her. she finally relaxed but there was no way in hell she was going to kiss me. at first she just kind of layed there staring empty eyed to the ceiling. now i got stubborn, i was not gonna have two bad back to back sessions so i spent the first 30 minutes going down on her applying everything i have learnt throuh the years in that department. <vanity> and she claimed (and “acted”) like she came twice, and actually was upset when i told her i was not sure if she was telling the truth </vanity>. still i felt she overdid it a little bit but anyways, you never know. at least she felt the urge to take off her glasses when reaching her first orgasms whatever that indicates (probably just tired of those damn things) and her blank stare was gone.

some bj followed and on with the rubber and she mounted me cowgirl (i also did my share of munching on those gorgeous tits). we rode for a while and then this strange thing happened <vanity> she leans towards me grabbing my head, lays her head on my shoulder turning her face away from mine and starts riding like crazy and she sounded like she was sobbing (she was not, only kind of sounded like that). all of a sudden i feel this warm liquid oozing down my balls. “what the hell, i hope this is not a case of a bad time of the month thing” i think. no such thing, just her juices flowing in generous amounts. chivazes ego just got back to par </vanity>.

now, here is the situation: she claims has come couple of times and i am pretty confident that the liquid thing is hard to fake so i am pretty confident i have at least gotten on the good side of her and now i must be able to steal some dfk. no sir, no way. so i just flat out ask her why not and she explained to me. “oh, so i am kind of like your human size vibrator” i replyed, but i think she did not get the joke. my ego yet again gets a hit, but this time it was not that serious.

still a good session. she is very beautiful and it would have been perfect if dfk would have been on her menu. my hat is off for those who will get something else than their dick beyond those lips. my feeling is that subsequent sessions might break some barriers as she seems a bit shy at first, but maybe that’s a part of the act.

decided to hang out for a while as there were girls arriving and already there were three or four i would have done if not for the fact i had done two sessions already so i wanted something special if i was gonna do another session at world. i sit in the sofa in the corner next to the kino and out of nowhere, anka is placing her butt on her regular seat (the high table right across the bar, next to the corridor). she places her things on the table and then turns around to speak to one of the girls sitting in the sofa. with a speed that would shame a grasshopper, i jump to my feet and i am seated on the other stool at the table when she turns around. <vanity> a big smile, yeah baby, she remembers me, and seems happy to see me. </vanity>.

the stats:
name: anka
origin: romania
hair: dark red, originally dark brown and she is not coloring it at the moment so it is growing back to be dark brown
face: when she smiles, a more prettier girl is hard to find, but she sure can also show a grumpy face
body: tall, tastefully enhanced tits. athletic, great ass
tatoos: a classic one above her butt and a spider on her belly
performance: great

we chat for a while and she knows my game and kind of plays into it knowing i won’t rush things. it was ok by me, but i don’t know how many times i am willing to go through that. climbing the same mountain again and again to get the view can be a bit tiresome, sometimes you just want to ride up the damn thing to get the view. had a great time anyways and ended up doing 2 hour session with her with a very long foreplay. the highlight of which we played the “how deep can you go” game. she gives a very good bbbj and just for fun i asked her how deep she could go. she made one relatively deep and i would place my finger on where she got and the next time she would have to break the record. in the end she told me that if she would go any further, she would puke over my dick, and i really was not up to that.

then probably 30 minutes straight fucking (it was my 3d in a relatively short time so i needed the time) and a good afterplay as i did not feel like bailing out right away and she did not show any indication of leaving soon. all in all a great 2 hour session, but i must stress that i think you need to invest time in her to get a really good session (at least an hour). many have reported bad sessions and i do not doubt them. she can be moody and does not like her job that much. but for my money, she is the best sex at world at the moment and a good conversationalist as well. don't know if it has been mentioned, but she speaks pretty good english.

after anka, i felt i could not top that at world, but there are a few girls at oase that can get my motor running even after 3 sessions so i left world around 8pm and headed for oase. more on that in the oase section.

chivaz

Routard
06-10-06, 11:59
A few business days in the middle of my FKK tour allowed me to take some rest and plan the next days. I was not used to SMS, and the most innocent well-educated female collegue helped me to send an SMS to Gandjim. She didn’t realise she was helping two notorious international mongerers to meat each other in Prague’s most famous brothel ! Check also the Prague section for my FKK tour story.

I was with another FKK virgin pal, and chosed FKK World to erase his virginity. I had the free VIP entrance from my tombola, and the girl at the reception remembered me from last week. In the shower, I bumped into Euro, needless to say, my second FKK virgin pal was also very impressed to discover how extensive my second life is. I came to see Banny, but unfortunately she was not there. General atmosphere was of course much more relaxed than last week, which I liked.

While discussing at the bar with Euro, Tunesian Chanel was performing a dance on stage. Without ger glasses on stage, she is a perfect 10. She has a 19 years old body to kill, her long dark hairs and her incredible charming eyes makes her look like a true princess from the 1001 nights. Euro warned me that her service was very basic, but I was ready to be her Alladin. We had to communicate through Arabic, not the most romantic language of course, and the level of my Arabic made the small talks to remain really small. It was a true optic fick, no kissing and straight doggy style sex. Not what I prefer of course, but it was OK for a first shot. Chivaz, we missed us but we have that girl in common, and I’m glad you managed to get it further. I believe too that with some personnal investment it is possible to get a good service. I don’t believe she means to do it wrong, as she genuinely inquired at the end of the session if everything was OK. It’s probably a lack of experience.

Without any Latina girl available, I went with another Middle Eastern girl. Turkish Leila was my second session. She was a nice petite girl with a perfect tanned and firm body that reminded me Turkish Mina from Wildenrath, the girl that took my FKKvirginity. Excellent service, I recommend.

On the meanwhile, my FKK virgin pal was at the point to loose his virginty with a German blonde named Diana. Euro and I were watching the scene, there was a true mutual chemistry and we both knew that he was going to have the time of his life. I think we were both remebering our own loss of virginity. My pal went twice with her that night. I thanked Diana later for what she did for my pal. Another FKK addict.

Decided to go for blonde too and went with petite blonde Martina, the shorted girl from World. She knows her job, a nice session too.

All in all a nice evening with three nice sessions and some friends to discuss, but still I haven’t had the magic moments that makes FKK so special. I envied my pal, he was in heaven. He experienced the famous FKK syndrom, including regular girls smiling towards him once outside back in normal life.

Euro100
06-11-06, 12:20
Yes, I agree, your buddy had the time of his life. Earlier I had posted the girl's name as "Jenna"; you say "Diana". You may be right. If anyone wants to go with her, make sure you go to FKKW on a weekend, because that's the only time she works.

Euro100
06-11-06, 12:34
Great report, in combo wiht the one you put down in the Oase section.

We must have very similar tastes, because I also sampled Ines/Inna/Ina-whatever, as well as Chanel. I got basically the same result as you did with Ines; would never repeat with her. My experience with Chanel was also similar to yours (see http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=466535&postcount=1461). I also did not get DFK out of the deal. Plus, when she was with me she had just injured her ankle and refused to go cowgirl. Reading your post showed me that I really missed something there.

Member #4170
06-19-06, 02:23
Hi All,

I know this is a bit late, but better late then never.

I am not one to write long and detailed reports, but after all my time of reading others I felt I should write something, so here goes.

First it was great to meet Routard and Beffin at world realy nice guys.

I have just returned from another trip to Fkk land this week so my mind is not overly clear of what happened 3 plus weeks ago, what I can say is the club felt very packed because of the bad weather everybody was inside,there was a very large crowd of guys who just seemed to be standing around doing, well just standing around all day and all night doing nothing but looking. Well done to world for putting on a lovely buffet.

From my point of view the line up was very impressive, I was really pleased to see Tina there,very large natural assets who no longer works in the club but came back just for the party, Had a fantastic session with her and am sorry that she does not ply her trade there anymore, but has moved somewhere up north.

Just a few points about my more recent trip.
On a five day trip which involved 2 visits to WORLD 2 to Oase 1 Atlantic and 1 to Palace I have no problem in saying that the best line up with out doubt at the moment is at Palace, as a club I would rate Palace 3rd after World and Oase.

Have just booked to go back for the weekend of the World Cup Finale.

I know this is never going to make Reports of Distinction, but I hope it is not to bad for a first time.

Will any others be around For Weekend of July 6-11.

Thanks

Irishpussyman