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back to my hunting ground (actually it feels more like a haunting ground). there were about fifty girls and about thirty men. the day was hot and there were world cup games. for the time of year the number of men was low – it seems that the number of regular customers were avoiding the world cup time, with no compensating additional trade arising from the world cup. there were almost no regular girls (partly because it was sunday) – no olga, stella, sharon, camilla, magda, steffi, jana, tiffany, ines, irina, betty, yvette, daniella,sonya, etc etc.. there were a large number of new girls – many of whom looked to be eastern european.
judging by observation many of the girls were doing very very badly in terms of earnings. the high turnover seems to have accelerated the tendency towards very little couch action and appalling pick-up technique (“want sex?” “want to go to a room?”). i guess many of the new girls had naively expected the football to increase earning potential.
the club still retains its advantages over other clubs
• clean,
• staff who care about keeping the place well cared for
• marvellous spacious outdoor areas
• the large separate relaxzone with a separate bar where it is possible to chill out
i went with three workers. i avoided all workers who are sullen. i do not go with girls who go to and from the rooms with a disdainful attitude to their customers. i also do not go too much on physical looks (within reason) – after all i can see the looks from the couch for free. looks do not guarantee a good session
i had a really good day which led me to reflect on what makes a good worker. the answer is the obvious one – if the worker enjoys sex the session will be good. and this is the reason i go back to world – at other clubs i have been to i have found few girls who seriously enjoy sex. at fkkw there are several who do and always new discoveries
1. alicia
spanish
1,65
34c/d enhanced (estimate)
slim
mid 20s
black straight hair to chin
couch action: limited – man retains towel
english – adequate
kissing – medium
initial pick up approach - drapes over man
style - gfe
the session was excellent – up in the top dozen i have ever met. she made it quite clear what she wanted and really went for it on all cylinders. sensitive and active. she obviously enjoyed herself. she is cheerful and chatty. however she is not likely to be back for a couple of months.
very highly recommended – provided you can make sure she respects and gets on with you
2 nikki
czech
34a
quite slim
mid 20s
curly brown hair to shoulders
couch action : not known
english – adequate
kissing – medium
initial pick up approach - says hello
style – gfe ish
nikki has been there a long time and often spoken to me, and knew katharina. she is very sensitive and nice. she was concerned that i should get what i wanted. we spent some time talking and she immediately launched on to quite intelligent reflections on life. this is something i have found czech girls seem to do at a drop of a hat (andrea, jana, katharina but not the dreadful jennifer) . dangerous to generalise but it seems to be more than a co-incidence.
recommended. she will give you an enjoyable session and treat you well. a nice person
3 cordelia
english
32d enhanced
1.60
quite slim
39
straw blonde to shoulders
couch action – yes
english – native
kissing – yes
initial pick up approach - talks to man
style – gfe/pse combined
first – a declaration of interest - most of you know of my relationship with cordelia. i thought for once i could report on her in the normal way as she was one of my sessions
cordelia is very sensitive, uninhibited and can be very active in the room. she obviously enjoys sex and is really good at it. she totally goes for a good session. deep kissing. she is able to have an intelligent and sensitive conversation as well
very very highly recommended. at the top of my list (of course).
Cordelia
32D enhanced
what a surprise! Can't wait to see this.
By the way, excellent reporting Shiatsu. Your girl data record including language, approach technique, couch action, kissing and sex style are way more relevant than tattoos or piercing identification.
Routard
Routard - you don't miss much do you?. It was a (pleasant) surprise for me too. They are very good ones. Shiatsu
Shiatsu, you are right, I spend too much time reading ISG. But unlike you, I don't have a FKK star at home! ;)
First – a declaration of interest - most of you know of my relationship with Cordelia. I thought for once I could report on her in the normal way as she was one of my sessions.
You seem to get away with it too! Good man. Now I have some sunray lamps, I could do with selling them. Are you going to Dubai any time soon?
Mike. I am useless at marketing (believe me I hate it). In fact what I wrote is counterproductive in terms of Cordelia's business. I just wanted for once not to have to censor my report too much for fear of giving the impression which you have formed. When I go to FKKW I session with Cordelia as a regular session in competition with all the other workers. It's my choice and I wanted not to have to keep quiet about it on this occasion
Cordelia and I did decide at one stage to keep quiet about our connection since in fact it seems to damage her business significantly. Over a dozen members have made it clear to her or myself that they would feel awkward about going with her in view of her presence on this forum. So, if I were marketing, I would be paying other members to write reports not be writing them myself
Hope that is clear
Btw - Cordelia misses your cheerful face at FKKW
Shiatsu
I continue to be in awe of 2 of the nicest people whom you could ever meet, who also have the most amazing relationship, ever. Period. Full stop.
I am seriously jealous of Shiatsu.
Since I, a true gentelman, did not write a report of my 1 and only session ever with my dear friend Cordelia, I can only say that Shiatsu has described my session with her exactly with one exception. He left out "exudes warmth"- not body heat idiots- she radiates personal interest and caring for the person that she is with. Warmth.
32D...Hmmmmmm. I know now where all those hard-earned Euros went. To quote Terri Hatcher from a famous Seinfeld episode, in her pre-Desperate Housewives days, "...and they're fabulous".
I'm in Asia, otherwise I'd jump into Giessen to say hello. Love you guys.
32D...Hmmmmmm. I know now where all those hard-earned Euros went. To quote Terri Hatcher from a famous Seinfeld episode, in her pre-Desperate Housewives days, "...and they're fabulous".
Actually there is a movie scene that precedes the Seinfeld episode by a few years. In a movie called "Soap" Teri Hatcher and Kevin Klein meet for the first time backstage and they're both acting in a daytime drama. Klein goes with the cheesy pickup line, "You have beautiful eyes..." to which Hatcher replies, "Yes, but you should see my tits!"
I'm looking forward to seeing her 2 new friends as well... hopefully sometime soon.
what I wrote is counterproductive in terms of Cordelia's business. I just wanted for once not to have to censor my report too much for fear of giving the impression which you have formed.
My fault - the "sunray lapms" comment was a logical step too far, and totally not what I was trying to say. Sorry! However the "Coals to Newcastle" comment was correct but only mentioned for entertainment purposes not to be taken seriously. There is nothig wrong with pushing Cordelia - plug away, you have every right since you tell no lies.
On another note, in the same way that some of the girls have problem with you, I can see how some of the guys will feel exactly the same thing, posibly for the same reason, that after meeting and getting to know you, they think what a really nice guy you are and.......
But don't worry about Cordelias business, she does just fine!
Mike -no problem
"in the same way that some of the girls have problem with you, I can see how some of the guys will feel exactly the same thing, possibly for the same reason, that after meeting and getting to know you, they think what a really nice guy you are and......."
You sum it up in a nutshell See you around. Shiatsu
This is my first visit to this board and I must say that I find it all absolutely fascinatingly beautiful! Never read anything like it!
I am totally clueless about FKK clubs, what are they, what do they mean, where they can be found. But reading the posting here fills me with desire!
Tell me, what are th basic norms of being part of the "community". The women seem absolutely charming and Oh so sensuous!
Can some someone please give me an introduction to this world? ! :)
Happy times to you all.
Wanton
Wanton - I have posted a reply under the "General Information" thread
World visit last weekend report.
I arrived around 11:00 on Sunday morning and it was quiet for sure. The weather was fantastic and about 10 guys were lounging around the pool. There were two and sometimes three girls there just goofing around. One finally got up and took care of someone on one of the loungers. They are a bit flimsy for much in the way of acrobatics. I did a quick head count and realized there were about 15 men and 3 girls. Not a very good ratio. There were more girls inside but also more men so the ratio remained a bit lopsided. Later more girls did show up. Even with this uneven ratio there were always plenty of girls on the prowl.
I wandered around for a bit seeing who all was there. I was looking for Cordelia but she was nowhere to be seen. The girl at the bar didn’t know where she was either. I went back out to wander in the massive yard and take in more sunshine.
At a bit after 12:00 I went back in the main room and met up with Cordelia. This was the first time we had met. It was not hard to know her from the descriptions posted earlier. However, they did not do justice. She truly is beautiful and sexy. Recently he had enhancements and she looks great! In the end her breasts are only one small part of who she is, mind and emotion will capture you as well.
We talked for a while over a bite to eat and I found her to be intelligent, witty, sensitive and kind, and oh did I say sexy as well. We went to the room and WOW …… I will leave out the details since most would not believe me and think I was writing a fiction piece. You will just have to find out for yourselves.
At the end of two days I think we went to the room about five times. I didn’t think that I could keep up by the end but she was so amazing that I finished feeling completely drained. Cordelia redefines the term multi-orgasmic. I could not believe the number of times she would come in 30 minutes. This was not PSW by any means, this was real. She also gives new meaning to GFE as I found out personally and observed on a number of other men.
I was starting to wonder if my measurement of a good session was becoming biased, so I tried a couple other girls. Saturday afternoon I went with a new girl from Lithuania, and her name escapes me. She was about 25 years old, dark hair, thin with small tits, just the right size for her. She had a great smile, a good attitude and overall a good session. Then on Monday afternoon I caught up with Camilla, a long time regular and known by most. She is tall, thin and a classic beauty from Turkey.
These two just helped to reaffirm the fact that Cordelia was first rate in all areas. I don’t know where she gets all the energy but she could go on and on. She did tell me that it is a lot easier for her since she love sex so much.
There has been a comment about staying away from her because we all highly respect Shiatsu. This is something that is not a problem. She will set you right at ease. I had a wonderful and memorable two days. She told me in our last session that she was going to f*** my brains out and I think she about did just that. I enjoyed my time immensely and thank her for a great two days.
Hi All,
I know this is a bit late, but better late then never.
I am not one to write long and detailed reports, but after all my time of reading others I felt I should write something, so here goes.
First it was great to meet Routard and Beffin at world realy nice guys.
I have just returned from another trip to Fkk land this week so my mind is not overly clear of what happened 3 plus weeks ago, what I can say is the club felt very packed because of the bad weather everybody was inside,there was a very large crowd of guys who just seemed to be standing around doing, well just standing around all day and all night doing nothing but looking. Well done to world for putting on a lovely buffet.
From my point of view the line up was very impressive, I was really pleased to see Tina there,very large natural assets who no longer works in the club but came back just for the party, Had a fantastic session with her and am sorry that she does not ply her trade there anymore, but has moved somewhere up north.
Just a few points about my more recent trip.
On a five day trip which involved 2 visits to WORLD 2 to Oase 1 Atlantic and 1 to Palace I have no problem in saying that the best line up with out doubt at the moment is at Palace, as a club I would rate Palace 3rd after World and Oase.
Have just booked to go back for the weekend of the World Cup Finale.
I know this is never going to make Reports of Distinction, but I hope it is not to bad for a first time.
Will any others be around For Weekend of July 6-11.
Thanks
IrishpussymanHi Irishpussyman!
I would like to say my special thanks to you for providing such an indepth information about the girls in FKKs. Where will you be going during this weekend? I would plan accordingly and may be benefit from your experience. To introduce myself, I have been a member for quite some time, but somehow had missed the forum thinking that it is closed or something. Only recently I discovered that it is up and running again.
Mefree, its an unwritten rule that you dont quote an entire post just to introduce yourself or just to say thanks for the post (unless of coarse the quote in question is pages back and you want to bring up a question or comment about it).
Also, you can 'edit' the quote before posting to only include the part or parts that you want to make a comment on.
All,
I'm soon to leave the land of milk and oney and want to do one more trip to World to send myself off right. I understand that Cordelia is working there for the next two weeks. I remember nothing but good/amazing things posted here about her but can't seem to track them down. Could I get another description of her and recommendations as to the best time to go so I can meet this amazing woman?
Thanks in advance!
E
See your PM. As for reports try 1519,1513,1395,1343,1290,1075. Shiatsu
I understand that Cordelia is working there for the next two weeks. I remember nothing but good/amazing things posted here about her but can't seem to track them down. Could I get another description of her and recommendations as to the best time to go so I can meet this amazing woman?
Equitus
You should not have a problem at all finding Cordelia. First of all she is absolutely stunningly beautiful. Second, she is a bit older than most of the girls with a body they would die for and the experience they dream about. If you ask at the bar they can point you to her. More likely, she will be with someone and they will tell her that you are looking for her. She will then come find you. I am able to verify that you WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED!! Cordelia is absolutely fantastic. I would suggest that you spend a bit of time getting to know her because she is bright, witty and kind. This is what makes her so good, you get a brain with the body.
Bob
I agree 100% with everything Fly Bob has said, with one additional comment: Cordelia really, honestly, and OBVIOUSLY enjoys sex. This becomes absolutely apparent when you are with her. And if you've ever seen her in action at Beverly, as I have, you'd have an entirely new idea of what "sexual stamina" means. An incredible woman!
No Woes at World
This Wednesday and Thursday I went with two friends to World for the later day and, spent the next afternoon at Oase.
Initially, World looked thin as reported. All the regular favourites gone (not a bad thing IMHO) and not many lookers about.
Also as reported there are many new girls around, some of whom are to leave soon. Also, not reported, there are very few German girls working at World (again, not a bad thing IMHO) as I believe the German Girls are too money minded and the service level is generally lower.
This will be short and informative, but basically the sevice levels are absolutely fucking superb, setting a new bench level in my recent FKK career. Things were very bad here two months ago, but this new crop of newbies have that delightful innocent newbie feel, giving very romantic service.
My trip to Oase was less successful, but the night shift is much better looking and better service levels than the day shift, the food is much better and the gardens delightful. Oase is the better place, but for great sex with non-professionally minded, then World is better right now.
The real find for my three friends and I was Jana, from Lithuania. Perfect arse, slightly small tits, great mid length straight blonde hair, nice face (although a touch plain) but the sexiest animal alive on this planet. She made a fortune out of us. I will tell you why shortly.
World Girl 1.
Petia: Bulgarian, nice eyes. Gave good service, nice chatter, a bit podgy. No complaints but will not repeat. Fusco had a less than satisfying time. 7/10, full GFE.
World Girl 2:
Jana: Blew my socks off. Excellent pickup technique. She has limited English, she is so intense however, she can pick up any man. She leans into your face and strokes your hand and works her fingernails like she is totally fascinated with your great humour, your handsome face and rock-like pecs. She leans in closer until you just HAVE to kiss her as you get lost in those soft pale blue eyes, which never stop staring at you in that worshipful way. As soon as your lips meet, her tongue invades, uninvited but unresisted and you know the deal is done.
Her attention never wavers from you. Anything you want to do is OK, but she is just as much the boss, she never stops stroking, playing, kissing (this girl breathes through her ears). He technique is great, her muscle control excellent. She is tight, knows how to move her hips to get that “jerk you off” feeling at the end of your member as she works you whilst on top of you. What really gets you is the absolute intensity of her passion. You are God with this girl and Allah is very insha.
I passed her on to my friends. At first they did not see what I saw, but after thirty seconds of her sat next to them, she worked her spell (how does she do that?) and they were helpless. Hooked. I dearly hope that this level of customer service is rewarded with more work. Mark my words, go to World and ask for Jana.
World Girl 3.
Fat girl from Hungary: this girl is a friend of Anita from Hungary. Lovely face, long dark hair. What I call an unskilled, but passionate and genuine, touching performance. A “grateful for business” performance. Again, totally acquiescent, just like I want my Girls, with just a touch of rebellion and response to make it interesting. If I had not been with Jana earlier, I would be raving about this Girl.
Oase Girl 1:
Sabrina from Germany: Fucking awful. Long blonde hair, “DK” Gothic tattoo on inner arm and arse tatto. Worst ever blow job, “don’t do this don’t do that” feigned injury and gave myself the red card. Typical German service. (Yes, I know some German girls are good).
Girls 2 & 3
Lissie and blonde friend: These girls attacked me as a twosome. I do not normally do two girl but thee two were so stunningly, classically beautiful with tongues going all over me, my hardon embarrassed me and I had to go to the room. Gave my two friends a great show before going to a room. Thoroughly recommended, great service levels, great GFE.
Regards,
Mike De H.
Vicifranck
07-30-06, 09:40
Sabrina from Germany: Fucking awful. Long blonde hair, “DK” Gothic tattoo on inner arm and arse tatto. Worst ever blow job, “don’t do this don’t do that” feigned injury and gave myself the red card. Typical German service. (Yes, I know some German girls are good).
Mike De H.Yes, me too, a very disappointing cession with Sabrina (OASE).
Long blonde hair reaching the middle of her very nice ass (she's on the web site gallery).
Yes, me too, a very disappointing cession with Sabrina (OASE).
Long blonde hair reaching the middle of her very nice ass (she's on the web site gallery).
Saw her getting her just deserves later on though, getting spitroasted by two Moffen who obviously didnt give a fuck, just banged the hell out of her in the high outside bed LOL
Hi,
First of all I'd like to thanks all the foum members for the informations you daily give me abaut FKK. Reading your posts a big desire to go there grow up in my mind.
Now the dream is going to be real and i have a question for you. I'll be in Germany one week on the end of august. I'll visit Munchen and Frannkfurt. I'll go by car with some of my friends. All of us with a little mongering expirience (we visit Amsterdam and Prague). Wich places do you think is better for us? We are foreign in germany and all FKK virgins. Could whe have some problems in the big Frankfurt FKK?
Thanks
Freedom 78
many thanks to isg members reports for guidance for a recent trip. most world reporters appear to use cars for transport so those who don't have a car may appreciate experience with public transport if they wish to save on the €80 one way taxi fare to/from frankfurt.
my short stay in frankfurt allowed a day off in great weather to explore, so i decided on world having already been introduced to the delights on offer in oase and palace. btw my german language is virtually non-existant.
frankfurt hauptbahnhof to giessen train service is available regularly through the day by both intercity (ic) and regional express (re) trains. the journey to giessen takes about 45 minutes and costs €23.80 on re (this includes a day pass on all frankfurt transports) and €29 on ic.
tickets are available from automat machines in the hbf or from the 'reiseburo' office in the foyer of the hbf. english is widely spoken here.
taxis are available outside the station in giessen all day. taxi to world cost €18. taxi back to giessen bf was €17 in the world 'house taxi'.
a word of caution for the more sensitive visitor, this taxi has a large ad for world on the side with logo etc (like you see on the world website) which caused some mirth and banter from the crowd enjoying late evening sun and drinks at the cafe across the bus-lot from the station entrance when i arrived back at giessen station.
but you can get out a block from the station if this is likely to bother you.
the club itself has been described many times before, but i was very impressed by the size and facilities. i prefer to go to fkks during the daytime in summer if possible. i find the atmosphere relaxed with less hassle and waiting for rooms which can be a feature later at night. the outdoor area in world is huge with many cabins, a pool, barbecue/dining area and large gardens with hammocks, loungers, chairs etc.
i arrived at about 1pm. there were about 15 men and 25 women at that time, rep001tered about both outside at the pool/gardens and inside in the bar and relaxation/eating area. there were a few groups of men around the pool and a few girls playing ball in the pool and others lounging around sunbathing.
first priority was to explore, get my bearings (takes a while, with stairs and rooms spread out through a large house) and check out the girls.
1st session was with maria from greece (i thought albanian). blonde, petite, a-cup. so-so performance but ok for an icebreaker. usual mix of services for a quality fkk, but my interest wasn't sustained for long.
2nd was with agnes from hungary, short blonde hair, 175, b, hot and toned. better performance in the room than the first but a bit reluctant to kiss deeply. did a nice oiled body slide though which sorta made up for things.
3rd was luba from bulgaria, short brown hair, 168, c, not skinny, not chunky either. very nice friendly unhurried session.
overall impressions: it's like a club. there were a few groups of guys that obviously knew each other and were regulars. there were more guys on their own though. lack of german was no problem. no animosity anywhere, you'll be made feel welcome. i liked it and i'll return. i'd recommend anyone with time available to give it a go. i prefer oase though, but this is purely personal and maybe next time i'll have more time to stay. one thing i liked was the relaxed atmosphere without the hustle type approach you get at palace and sometimes oase.
in good weather the outdoor area is superb with a lot of opportunity to chat before and after. interesting to hear the girls impressions about some of the regulars. one guy i noticed when i arrived was lording it at the pool behaving like a bigshot to giggles from the girls in the area. the girls think he's a dickhead.
Wich places do you think is better for us? We are foreign in germany and all FKK virgins. Could whe have some problems in the big Frankfurt FKK?
Thanks
Freedom 78
Freedom,
There is not much available in Munich. It is a beautiful city with a lot of history. Don't go there for the FKK's.
Frankfurt has the big clubs; Palace, Oase and World. Each of these are different. You will find something you like in all of these clubs and some things you don't like. I prefer the ambience at World. Also, on a good day you can meet Cordelia. She sets a very high standard indeed.
There are smaller clubs in the Cologne/Dusseldorf area that are less expensive to get into. They generally have much less to offer, both in girls and things to do between sessions. I would suggest Heavens Gate as a good choice. If you want something more raw then try Bernds in Schiefferhof.
I believe that you have enjoy yourself in most places. You need to be friendly and patient. Don't jump into the arms of the first beautiful girl that meets you at the door. Her service may or may not be good. Shiatsu showed by the finer art of watching the men returning and timing the sessions. Some girls churn through one session after another in 10-15 minutes. Don't go with these girls unless you want to be finished in 10-15 minutes. Remember, the girls are professional and you are the amateur.
The one thing to remember, in my opinion, is to enjoy yourself. Don't try to set records or impress anyone. You are the one paying and need to enjoy yourself.
Bob
World has introduced another discounted entrance variation - (there are already 3 for 2 on some days, and advance payment for five, ten visits etc). You can get a 5E discount for printing out a voucher - go to the website and click on "Gutschein". You have to give your email address
Gandax - don't forget that it is possible to do the last leg of the trip by bus for under 2Euros - it takes about 30 minutes plus 10 minutes walk
According to the Deutsche Bahn website, there is also a train station directly at Garbenteich.
Coming from Frankfurt I believe you need to make a connection at Giessen to get there.
I've never tried it myself but this should put you within a kilometer or so from the club.
You will, of course, have to deal with the inconvenience of waiting to make the connection.
Yes, the little "toy train" has delayed my walk as I cross the tracks on afternoons when I take the 1.75 euro bus trip from Giessen to Garbenteich Sportsplatz. I should try and catch the train instead. I'll look into that next time.
Actually, I just checked the DB website and that train doesn't go direct from Giessen, you have to go through Butzbach and still take more busses. But, I found that for those all-nighters at World, the first bus 630 is at 4:53 AM which means if you hit the showers by 4:20 or so you can easily walk back to Sportplatz and save about 15 euro over the taxi. The bus gets you to Giessen bahnhof at 5:27 and you can then catch the 5:36 RE back to Giessen.
beffen
Beffen - small correction. The train (the HLB) goes direct from Giessen to Garbenteich - leaving a ten minute walk to World. However, as you say, for very early morning returns to Giessen, the bus starts running earlier
The www.bahn.de website is the one to use (as you did)
Enjoy your next trip. At least one girl is looking forward to your return you charmer!
Best wishes
Dick Rambone
08-04-06, 14:03
By the way there is a train that runs from Giessen to Hennef-Sieg where you can catch a taxi or bus to Bernds.
Gießen RE 4870 RegionalExpress
Hennef(Sieg)
Duration: 1:54; runs daily
By the way there is a train that runs from Giessen to Hennef-Sieg where you can catch a taxi or bus to Bernds.
Gießen RE 4870 RegionalExpress
Hennef(Sieg)
Duration: 1:54; runs daily
... will take you down the Landstrasse which you would drive on heading away from Bonn. You would get off at a stop by name of Oberdorf (or something like that). A short walk into the cluster of houses and pretty soon you will walk past the Hotel Reuter and then you are on Schieferhof.
I will dig to find the exact bus number and name of the Bus stop and revise this note later.
Dick Rambone
08-04-06, 17:27
Its bus #522 from Hennef-Sieg to Hennef Lichtenberg and it only takes 12 minutes. Form there it is walking distance to Bernd's.
Jorges Machado
08-04-06, 21:42
I have read so interesting reports that I think I 'll visit FKKWorls next week.
Only one question to experts, as I'm over 50 are there normally other members more or less this age or is it normally only visited by young people. I do not want to create embarasssment to anybody.
Thanks
Enjoy your next trip. At least one girl is looking forward to your return you charmer!
Does this mean that the big guy and I will be dueling the entire time just to take a trip down the Volga?
Please tell me that a lady of Spain may be there as well.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Only one question to experts, as I'm over 50 are there normally other members more or less this age or is it normally only visited by young people. I do not want to create embarasssment to anybody.
Everyone goes to these clubs so you can expect the full range from guys in their 20s to their 80s in most clubs.
Bernds has a customer base which is skewed older than normal with guys in the 60s, 70s and 80s making out with the women in their 20s.
I should be able get it up when I get to that age.
There are guys on wheelchairs and other handicaps.
Last time I was at PT Dorsten there were even two guys there without arms (they were probably Thalidomide babies in the 1960s).
There are customers who are totally out of shape and others who are perfect physical specimens. Just like in the real world.
There are clubs which focus on a Turkish clientele, others which prefer to restrict entry to German customers only (there are a few which operate this way).
I'll say this again: the only club I've ever been refused service at was PHG. It happened twice. This is the exception to the rule though.
[QUOTE=Jorges Machado]I have read so interesting reports that I think I 'll visit FKKWorld next week. ...as I'm over 50 ... I do not want to create embarasssment to anybody.
Jackyo has stated things exactly right. Remember, you will be in an environment with 30-40 completely naked women walking around. In the very unlikely chance that you happen to notice some guy spending a lot of time staring at you, chances are HE'S in the wrong club, not you. And the ladies are not at all likely to give a tinker's damn what you look like as long as you bring plenty of euros and act like a decent human being.
whitey2
Dedalus - the lady from Spain (or wherever the true provenance is - who cares!!) certainly planned to be back by the time you get there. I'll let you know if I see her next week. As for the Volga - I an too much of a gentleman to comment on potential duels :-)
Jorges - an FKK is one of the few places in Germany where you won't be stared at, even if you are distinctly odd, yet alone distinctly old. The only things which will get you in trouble are
1. Trying to have sex without a condom
2. Trying not to pay
3. Being smelly
4. Being drunk
If you are a nice person then some girls will like you better. If you are handsome then a very very few girls will prefer you
Anybody - I have had a few PMs apologising to me for asking about Cordelia. Can I just be clear - I am delighted to let members know what I know about her dates etc. So - don't worry
Jorges Machado
08-05-06, 09:52
Thanks to all the nice peopke that gave me a reply.
Jorges
Thanks to all the nice peopke that gave me a reply.
Nichts zu danken. Gern geschehen.
What I think you need to understand as a newbie is the whole sub-culture of these clubs.
There are rules of etiquette to be followed, things which are done and things which are frowned upon.
These rules change sometimes from club to club so even within the sub-culture, there are sub-sub-cultures.
For example, at Bernds it is okay to jack off on the couches. No one will even bat an eyelash at you. Public sex is acceptable at Bernds, blowjobs delivered at the bar while you stand and have a drink are totally normal.
At Bernds it is totally acceptable for the women to flash you, show you their nice pink parts from across the room, sometimes introduce a finger to do lip spreads.
This kind of behavior isn't always acceptable at other clubs.
I use Bernds as an example here because in my mind it is about the loosest of all of the clubs you can visit.
I was surprised to visit Partytreffs to the north (Niedersachsen and Westfalen) and found some guys walking around in their underwear. Nobody does this just a bit further to the south where at some clubs the guys go totally nude, let it all hang out and nobody even looks at them.
I was at Babylon once and this guy came in obviously for the first time. As they do there, a totally nude girl walks him around to show him everything. He had an enormous erection which he didn't even try to hide. It was just about parallel to the floor and the girls were just totally uncontrollable as he left the room.
The Thekenfrau says something like: "Well this is an FKK club if you must know.. "
When in doubt, sit and observe before doing anything. As rule, do in Germany as the Germans do and you will stay out of trouble.
If you want to really be prepared for a visit, read reports on this forum looking for clues on what is done and not done.
There are actually a lot of subtleties and for a newbie they aren't readily apparent.
Harry Dude
08-06-06, 02:10
I have had absolutely awesome kino-sex with Sabrina on numerous occasions - I find her incredibly sexy and very friendly.
Another chick I had pretty good kino-sex with was Renata (I think she is German), very slim blonde, long hair, probably 30 years old or so (?). Great kissing and very energetic BBBJ - nobody has ever sucked me so vigorously for so long. Strange thing though - twice this week she insisted on replacing the condom after about 10minutes of fucking. Any of you guys ever had this happen to you?
Saw her getting her just deserves later on though, getting spitroasted by two Moffen who obviously didnt give a fuck, just banged the hell out of her in the high outside bed LOL
Ooops - this post obviously belongs in the Oase forum, not the World forum. Sorry.
What I think you need to understand as a newbie is the whole sub-culture of these clubs.
There are rules of etiquette to be followed, things which are done and things which are frowned upon. ...
There are actually a lot of subtleties and for a newbie they aren't readily apparent.
Jackyo, when a newbie reads your posts, it may sound a little more forbidding that you may have intended it to. I would argue that there are not that many "rules" to be followed, except for the ones that Shiatsu/Cordelia already mentioned: watch your hygene, smile a lot, relax, have fun, don't get drunk.
As for the age thing: I have seen 80+ year olds get it on at FKKW. Once the guy next to me at the bar winked at me when one of the "Opa"s was led away by one of the girls. He thought it was funny. I told him that I want to do the same when I am 80. Suddenly his face changed, and he said that I was right, and he wanted to do the same at that age.
In a certain way to many of the girls we all look like 50, independent of our real age. 50, as in 50 euro, if you get my drift ...
So just enjoy, be friendly, and you will have an excellent time.
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In a certain way to many of the girls we all look like 50, independent of our real age. 50, as in 50 euro, if you get my drift ...
Spot on. I never had any respect for money til I found out what a 50E note can get,
As for sub-cultures - yes they exist, and people adapt to them without even noticing. I woudl argue that the best thing is to push the limits of the sub-cultures. For example,the reason I liked (the now departed) Viagra so much was that she was willing to offend the prudish Rumanian girls by having public sex. Unthinking conformity can lead to bad things. In an FKK club it can lead to a lack of dynamism and buzz. Elsewhere....but that is politics
Shiatsu
As for sub-cultures - yes they exist, and people adapt to them without even noticing. I woudl argue that the best thing is to push the limits of the sub-cultures. For example,the reason I liked (the now departed) Viagra so much was that she was willing to offend the prudish Rumanian girls by having public sex. Unthinking conformity can lead to bad things. In an FKK club it can lead to a lack of dynamism and buzz. Elsewhere....but that is politics
Jackyo, when a newbie reads your posts, it may sound a little more forbidding that you may have intended it to. I would argue that there are not that many "rules" to be followed, except for the ones that Shiatsu/Cordelia already mentioned: watch your hygene, smile a lot, relax, have fun, don't get drunk.
I do agree that it would be a good thing to push these limits.
I don't want to alarm newbies, simply point out that things can be quite different between clubs and that sometimes just sitting back and observing what is done and not done makes sense in a new environment.
Think of yourself as an observer in a sociological experiment. With a little more exposure and experience, you can, as well, be an agent of change.
I, myself, went through stages in a kind of discovery process starting off with Red Carpet Clubs then discovering Bernds, progressing to the heydays of Babylon and Wiago, then to public sex at Pauschalpreisparties in Duesseldorf to my introduction to Partrytreff action just last year where you can have as much as you want for as long as you can get it up.
Through this whole journey the one constant was always Bernds. Always the same standard of service, always the same level of uninhibitedness.
The formulation of the concept (and execution of the concept) was brilliant at its inception and is still brilliant today. It is not called the "Mother of all FKK clubs" for nothing.
In my most extreme wet dream I could not have conceived of such a club.
But neither in my wildest wet dream could I have conceived of a Partytreff either.
In my mind, clubs will have attained their highest level of evolution when all of them get to a state where anything goes. Unfortunately, they aren't all quite there yet.
There are sauna clubs where the women wear bikinis and there is no couch action, no public sex. Or FKK clubs where the women are nude but never sit with their legs apart, never give you the pure exhbitionism you can enjoy at Bernds.
Makes you wonder what path of evolution these clubs are on, whether there are, in fact, any more changes to the concept in store for the future.
So the journey begins. Have been luriking around these forums a while so i thought i might be time to share.
World, easy to find club that with excellent facilities. Arrived late on dessous tag and since i really enjoy girls in hot outfitts i first picked up Bianca, dont remember where she was from but it was certainly some eastern european country. Unfurtounatly Bianca should be avoided. All started well, very little light kissing and a quick bbbj. Then she got ontop and it all finnished very quickly as she was my first for the trip. Tried desperatly to slow her down but she was very unresponsive and i dont like beeing to harsh to girls either so it ended :o
Second a tall blond polish girl named Anna with a pretty face and b/c cups. Much better performance with kissing, bbbj and a good amount of positions. Recommended. Now it was getting really late headed back to the hotel, the story continues at Palace.
If you go to the World website and print off the Gutschein, you get entry at the moment EUR 5 cheaper.
This wasn’t the reason I went to World last Friday. Rather, with the weather uncertain, I couldn’t stand the thought of Oase’s smoke if the outside area was closed off, so I drove on to Pohlheim. As it happened the weather was quite reasonable, and I probably made a mistake.
I was there from 10.30 to 19.30. It wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t that good either, with a rather disappointing day-shift. Things were improving as the second shift rolled in.
It pays to observe closely. There was quite a lot of slash-and-burn going on. Apart from the infamous Inessa, now a touch overweight, I saw several optical highlights process customers in well short of 15 mins, and one poor soul was trundling disconsolately behind his provider over to the cash lockers within seven minutes of entering the room. But I should state that none of the girls I went with made any attempts to end things quickly.
Three J’s and a K.
Jasmine, Indian, grown up in Germany, formerly of Artemis.
About 26
Dark skin, long wavy black hair
About 1.65m
B breasts
Technically she is skilled. Not into kissing, but she staged a real porn-style CIM finish, which was a good view in the mirror. The off-putting thing about her was her constant talking. Not nonsense, but without let-up. What a Quasselstrippe! Give me a rest!
It was the opposite problem with
Jenny, Greek-born, but grown up in Cologne
22, looks 18
Long blonde hair, fair pink skin
Very tall, 1.76m
A breasts
This was for me an Optikfick. She has good reports on the German forums, and indeed offers the whole range of services. Again, competent, but there was no spark at all. A seemingly supercilious OK-let’s-see-what-you’re-up-for-boy sort of smile down the nose, and next to no conversation. I thought at first she was being cynical about it all, but came to the conclusion that her cupboard is simply short of the odd cup or two. Oh well, they can do sex as well, so I went for the looks. 69 with a long-legged blonde is always a spectacle to behold, and I remember that, but I can’t remember anything else I am afraid.
Jeannette, from Dortmund
Early twenties
Yellowy blonde hair, probably dyed
About 1.65m
A/B breasts
She did a good turn on the pole, so at the first opportunity I approached her. Jeannette also has a reasonable reputation with the Germans. She is slender, but stands out for her face, like that of an elf, and her well-defined arse and leg muscles. From the waist down she has a torso to guarantee movement beneath any mongerer’s towel. From the start it was again clear it was only for the optics. She too wasn’t up for more than perfunctory kissing. BBBJ well-done, but we were going through a programme. I didn’t mind. Prolonged doggie with this girl is not exactly a great hardship, and I really enjoyed myself. Faked and paid.
Katja, from Plovdiv, Bulgaria
Early twenties
Black hair, big black eyes, tanned skin
Turkish/Israeli sort of look
About 1.68m
B breasts
I didn’t know until later, but she has several very good reports from the Romans, and here is another. I was sitting with my Clausthaler at one of the stools in the middle of the room, where you can size up the scene pretty well as the second shift arrives, and she was definitely one of the possibles I had noted. She is not a classic beauty, but everything is in the right place physically, and she has this fantastic smile and those sparkling eyes. In the end she approached me, so I was saved a difficult choice. I had an hour of great GFE. It’s not often that you forget you are paying, but for a while I did. She does an excellent cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, the only woman to have made even Toscana’s dick look erotic. :-) :-).
One piece of gossip I heard was that the Angels may be taking over Oase soon. If true, who’s going to contact the competition authorities in Brussels to protect the interests of the consumer in this vital German industry?
One piece of gossip I heard was that the Angels may be taking over Oase soon. If true, who’s going to contact the competition authorities in Brussels to protect the interests of the consumer in this vital German industry?
Juicy. Would love to hear more.
Cheers,
Dedalus, der Neugieriger
I just had a stunning couple of days at World. I will post asap on a number of things. I can confirm that Mike de Havilland's postive report was spot on.
Dedalus - the lady from the south is due to go back in just under two weeks from now so you might just be lucky, by the skin of your teeth
Toscana - bad luck the day you went was a Katastrophe day - so all the girls said - and many of the girls had taken the day off. Everybody sould take note of your comments - you are totally spot on
Beffen - I spoke to your friend, who is looking very good with a new hairstyle, and was very plesed to hear you will be going back. She was her cheerful normal self.
I had a schedule to visit several places other than World but that gradually evaporated. I arrived at 12.30 on Tuesday (Dessous) which is normally my least favourite day. I got there expecting as usual to be able to write off 95% of the girls – those of you who know me are aware that I am very picky and will not go with a girl who does not look as if she is going to enjoy herself. However I found that by 18.00 I had a list of about 12 girls that I would like to spend some time with (on top of all the ones who will not go with me because they treat me like a family member)
In the end I only managed four of them – because I did many repeat sessions with each of them. And not one of them was less than a 10/10! Three out of the four girls came at some point in my sessions with them – (for me is one hallmark of a successful Euro based relationship)
Worker 1 – Cordelia. There have been enough recent glowing reports about her for me not to need to add anything. I do however particularly like a girl coming while enjoying anal…
Worker 2 –
Daisa (I am sure the spelling is wrong).
Early 20s.
Piercing by lip and eyebrow
Face – nicely proportioned wideness
Slovak.
Black hair tight braided at front. (may only be temporary)
Slim, B cups.
Pick up style – smiles
Sex style – GFE
English – limited but good enough for quite complicated discussions
My inclination is not to post about her as I do not want ro share he with all you other fine men!!
She caught my eye simply by being friendly to me even when I was talking to somebody else. I spoke to her two or three times and she did not try to hassle me to a room. She was happy just to chat briefly. When I finally found time to ask her to go to a room she seemed surprised that I wanted to go to a room with her – she was totally unpushy.
The sex with her was genuine. It was a question of adapting to her genuine likings. At first I was unsure if she was genuinely into it but I gradually learnt to read her responses and realised she was. As always, out of respect for her, I will not go into details (and also because I am always concerned in case an isg member reads my reports to a girl). She seems to have a gentle character, but is also determined with ambitions in life and a clarity about what is right and wrong. She is honest and will not rip you off with short time, or false protestations of love etc. I was so taken that I went back to her, (resorting to the technique of the determined - waiting outside the locker room for half- hour), only stopping when I needed to go home.
I count her in the top four workers I have ever come across (and equal to each of them) – honest, gentle, caring, and determined. I think that if she is treated with intelligence and respect she will reciprocate.
She said she will be away for the next 14 days
Worker 3
Alicia
25+
Spanish?
Aquiline face
C enhanced
Slim
Straight black hair
Long legs
Pick up technique – will approach men standing or sit down with them
Sex style – wild
English – adequate for basics, easily amused
A total contrast to Daisa. The conversation limited by language, but very wild sex. I do not know what she is like with other men but with me she was unrestrained. Normally this is not my style, but I came away happy (with several unaccustomed aches and pains!!!) Once again I will not give details – this time in case someone repeats them back to her. After the sessions she came and spoke to me briefly on many occasions to pass the time of day. In total I think I have had about six sessions with her
Worker 4
Katharina
Early 20s
Czech (north Bohemia)
Nice round wide face
Black hair
Slightly cuddly overall shape (not fat but not slim)
Pick up technique – broad grin at men and opens big eyes
Sex style – friendly and genuine
English – very limited
Although this was the least successful session I would still be very keen to repeat with her. This just shows the quality of the other sessions! A major handicap was that the session had to be conducted largely in my faltering inadequate German. She was lovely and clearly enjoyed the time in the room
So – that’s all about the rooms. Another report will follow
This is about the general things from my recent visit
The atmosphere generally was better than it has been for a very long time. For a long period it had been determined by several groups of Rumanians who gathered round upstairs tables, giving off sour vibrations. Some of them individually were very pleasant but they created an ethos which was very uptight. This has now completely gone and the ethnic mix is very wide – the main groups being Spanish speakers, Russian, Czech and Slovak, German. The age range is from very young to mature, from very slim to fat
A higher proportion of the girls were willing to indulge in a little chitchat without expecting the man to go a room. Although some of the refugees from Oase still use the “Mochst du Gesellschaft” question and then disappear when you, naturally, say no. One girl, (looking as if she should carry a sign saying “The end of the world is nigh”) said to me “Want to have some fun with me? (which, given her demeanour seemed to be a deeply metaphysical question) and when I said I was resting, shut her mind off so quickly she left behind a blank face. An object lesson on bad pick-up technique. But as I say, many girls were more relaxed than in the past and were even happy to say hi after I had refused them
There is still very little couch action – upstairs totally non-existent. This is a shame but I do not see it changing in the near future. There are however several workers who will do something in the downstairs room, and a few more who will have sex in the Kino. So all is not lost.
Whilst I think the club service is very good generally, it is important that men make sure they do not let inexperience etc lead them in to ripoff sessions. I am always astonished at the number of men who go with workers who will be back out of the room in under 10 minutes. Trailing a disconsolate man two metres behind them. On eor two of these girls have been pointed out by isg reporters already. Some guidelines
1. Do not go with a girl JUST because she comes up to you, smiles and melts all over you and rubs tender hands over your manly chest. Remember that some girls who do this have concentrated on their pickup technique to the exclusion of everything else – it is the pick up which earns their money not the service
2. Don’t be in a hurry. Watch to see which girls process their customers too quickly and how the man looks as he returns to the lockers. Any girl may process one man quickly – for example , the man may have an appointment to keep and may have just squeezed in a short 10 minutes with an outstandingly good worker – but if it is a pattern AVOID. Watch the man – as Dedalus has pointed out, ignore a passionate kiss by the girl at the last minute: some girls can do this just to attract custom. Watch how the man crosses the room – if one man looks less than happy , then wait and see if the next one is the same
3. If a man and worker cross the room hand in hand and cheerfully relaxed then they almost certainly had a good session
By following these rules I never make a mistake and have a bad session. And nor will you. Remember as an inexperienced foreigner you are a prime target for ripoff merchants
Remember that all girls are there to make money but that only some have integrity. Some will be saving to finance a future career, support relatives etc, some will be just plain greedy. But there is always the danger that they get money-obssessed and drop all respect for men.
As for pricing. Remember that technically the girls can charge whatever they like. So it is important that you discover the accepted going rate for the club. If a girl tries to charge you more than this without warning you of the individual charging system then COMPLAIN gently to reception. One particular areas for high charging is where two girls are involved – two girls for halfhour should be 100E TOTAL (50 for each girl (lesbian shows etc will be extra). Remember you are a customer and should negotiate a contract where extras are involved, being aware of the going rates
Condoms – a very, very few girls have special thin high quality condoms. But not many. So if you are concerned about sensitivity, take your own condoms
I don’t want my warnings to worry anybody – they apply to all FKKs. I just warn you away from a small damaging minority of workers. Generally the atmosphere was very good. There are some excellent workers there and most workers deserve your utmost respect, consideration, and empathy. Some I have reported on – but there are others who I did not go with who get good reviews. For example
1. Jana (blond, carrying a bit of weight) from Slovakia,
2 Sharon (black girl with flower in her hair),
3 Olga – red hair with fringe, Russian, tall,
4 Betty – the very very sexy Cuban girl who had me in need of a cold shower after spending 20 minutes talking to me about sex (no exaggeration)
5. Jenny,tall, black hair
6 Katya – small slim dark Bulgarian, mid 20s
plus some of the many new girls. Overall the girls seemed the best for a very very long time
Remember that the girls have a lot to put up with. There are a few rude , dirty men who want sex without condoms at half the price, and an opportunity to bruise them. It is up to you to show them you are different. If you just want ”pussy” then that is all you will get
And even the food has looked up a lot (despite what some smart alecs on the roemerforum are saying by way of cheap jibes)
I like World - unlike Oase it is not dirty and the girls are allowed as many towels as they want and are not subject to the same degree of petty rules (for example, fines if they don't dance I am told). At World they dance because they feel like it
.. for this excellent report on the current state of affairs at World!
Glad to know the Rumanian contingent has been broken up. I was never crazy about this club because of its lack of variety and diversity.
I've had good experiences here but not of the earth-shaking variety which leads to addiction.
True "coup de foudres" I've only really experienced elsewhere: situations where you see a girl and you can't have enough of her and so you go back to the club several times and you book multiple sessions with her. Borderline addiction, in other words.
It matters to me that you can make some kind of connection with her at some level.
Sex is a form of human communication and is at its best when there is true communication going on.
I can only visit a specific club a couple of times a year but if I can return to a club and she remembers me because of something I said to her (or she said to me) or something we did together, then that I define as a connection.
When the Besatzung isn't stable or the women are too transaction-oriented this almost doesn't happen.
You can get ripped off anywhere, to be sure, but I always have my radar turned on to "extra sensitive" mode when I am one of these large clubs.
And yes, do watch to see if the customer in leaving the room with his "kurzfristige Lebensabschnittsgefaehrtin" has a spring in his step or not.
And as the Germans say, the best providers have a high "Wiederholungsfaktor". These are the ones you want to do over and over again.
Dick Travel
08-11-06, 14:48
Shiatsu,
Many thanks for your recent posts. I'm an experienced mongerer but have not yet had the pleasure of trying FKK or Partytreff in Germany. I'm coming in a couple of weeks and looking forward to it.
Your reports are always good. I particularly like the way you provide a detailed litle list about each girl in the same format - easy to read.
So, question everyone...
I'm hopefully going to be arriving at Bonn then travelling to Frankfurt and back at my leisure. What are the places I should definately not miss and are they any particualr nights I should go for? I do like the sound of PT Dorsten but thats a bit of a trek North, is there a good Partytreff around Frankfurt/Bonn area?
Any recommendations of cheap but decent hotels/B&B's near any of the clubs also welcome. I shall be hiring a car.
I shall of course post reports as I did when I hit Moscow. Regards,
DT
Jackyo - well said. You have picked out the heart of the meaning of much of my post
Dick - sorry, I don't know much about partytreffs - they are not normally my preferred style. Partytreff 188 very near Frankfurt looks to be an inexpensive risk (79 Euro entry some days)
Dick Travel
08-12-06, 22:03
Shiatsu, Breadman,
As a "newbie", well a newbie in the German mongering scene I'm finding this thread very useful in getting a grasp of what is out there and where to go and what to expect etc. I'm posting to say I find the posts both of you have made useful, whether you are agreeing or not agreeing, think you are not when you are or vice versa ! :-)
At the end of the day the what the newbie reader takes away depends just as much on their mindset and interpretation of what they read, as the finely honed attempts to be as clear in meaning as possible that the posters strive for.
Written communication is such a skill as there is no visual communication to verify correct reception of intended meaning, no "feedback" loop. So it's easy to think someone got the wrong end of a stick when maybe they actually didnt at all.
Anyway, what a waffle this is turning into...
Thanks for both your contributions, you obviously both have valuable experience and we all benifit from hearing it. Maybe we will meet in some FKK some day, meanwhile I'm sure neither of you want to argue, so lets get back to sharing what is a great hobby.
Don't think I'm a supersilious upstart will ya ;-)
DT
Breadman has made some comments to me which make me think perhaps my initial posts were a bit unclear on one point. I would like to thank him for pointing this out. For the sake of clarity can I say I did not mean to lay down rules
I am NOT telling men to pass up every girl that they see having a short session. I am recommending simply that if a girl and man come back from a session within 10 or even 20 minutes, looking less than happy then it is a warning sign.
But it does not mean the girl is automatically rubbish. There are all sorts of reasons why a session with an excelent worker may finish early. So it is only if there is a repeated pattern that the girl should be avoided
Thanks again to Breadman for making me realise I needed to be clearer
Dick. Well said. Good man
3. If a man and worker cross the room hand in hand and cheerfully relaxed then they almost certainly had a good session
Only a few times has a FKK lady tried to snooker a room full of men by holding my hand and smiling, but it has happened. Actually happened to me at GT last May.
There are a few girls who provide ok to decent service, yet are processors. and they may pull this.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Retired Army
08-14-06, 06:59
Nothing in the thread about the Atlantic FKK Club in Hanau. I just noticed it the other day. Off A-66 close to IKEA.
Nothing in the thread about the Atlantic FKK Club in Hanau. I just noticed it the other day. Off A-66 close to IKEA.
I've not read anything to suggest that this is worthwhile visiting.
It is clearly trying to capitalize on the reputation of the former Atlantis in Altenstadt.
I went there during the so-called Happy Hour when entry is supposed (according to their website) to be cheap. I was met by a miserable unhelpful reception who said basically no way. So I didn't bother - after all, if my money is not worth even a Guten Tag then I will keep it for a club where I am not treated like dirt by reception
Bravo Shiatsu - a man after my own heart.
As in all things - it is not a matter of the money - its what they do to earn it, or not. Good service is always appreciated and rewarded in proportion. Bad service not at all, and they are the biggest losers when they lose your custom.
this place never had a good reputation when it was called something else. Hopefully it will disappear like Atlantis (not the club) and become a myth. the Germans boards moan about it.
As for Dick Travel
If you are a newbie and want to go to partytreffs then look up Jackyo's reports. He likes them. I personally would say you are taking a risk with your enjoyment factor. You can strike lucky but you can also be under psychiatric care for weeks to come. Sometimes you need a sense of humour in these places to get through the evening. Let me tell you about the time I ended jup with two condoms on my ......no, you wouldn't believe me. Go to Mettmann on a Saturday evening, you are in safe hands there and if you meet Silvia the dark haired sex goddess of partytreffs you will not forget it. As for Frankfurt 188, no please don't go......Okay I had a wonderful time there eight years ago and partytreffs were really the in thing....today its FKK clubs that are experiencing a renaissance.
I know I'm continuing an off thread discussion. Just to add that I think Marlow and Jackyo, you have explained why I prefer FKK to Partytreff. At partytreff (I have only been to three) they tend to try to finish you off asap so you are too exhausted to keep going. The conversation and human relationship side is almost non-existent. Whereas at an FKK you have everything to play for - you can spend as much time as you want gazing into a lovely girl's eyes (or whatever), and pacing yourself as you want. That's why I keep going back to FKK World
Trust me,
When you are low on money, partytreffs are the best :D
If I go to an FKK these days, I am always conscious of what I am spending, so for me its Partytreffs untill I make my Millions !!
anyway
about the hand holding. After seeing how helpful the locker room looks can be in finding a good girl. if a girl tres this to me after giving me bad service i pull my hand away. same if she tries to kiss me goodbye. i do my best to make it clear if i had a bad session the smae if i had a great session.
Stinky Pete
08-14-06, 23:09
anyway
about the hand holding. After seeing how helpful the locker room looks can be in finding a good girl. if a girl tres this to me after giving me bad service i pull my hand away. same if she tries to kiss me goodbye. i do my best to make it clear if i had a bad session the smae if i had a great session.I've gone so far as to throw the money at the woman, to express dissatisfaction.
Wan King - as you say, in terms of bangs for your bucks, then partytreff is best. However I remain stuck in the magic of FKK for the reasons I said. Continue enjoying yourself
Red Dog, Stinky Pete, Dedalus - you are all right. That is why I said one needs to watch to see if the girl AND the man look cheerful and happy with each other. Some girls will put on a show at the return to lockers - but if everybody was like you then such girls would soon look stupid
Everybody - apology for referring to Daisa in my recent report. It should be (I think) Taisa
Jorges Machado
08-23-06, 07:58
I was at FKKW on Aug.21st and here is my report.
Thanks of info from this forum I had no problem of orientation and found my lockers and everything around without asking anything to anyone like I were an Habitué
As I had no experience of these clubs before, I was firstly worried to be considered a bit out of age (well over 50) and shape. This is not the case, many people that day were clearly well over 50/60 and someone looked really out of shape; on other hand young people seemed me to be very few. Nobody looks at you and it would be surprising as there so many stunning nude girls around to look at; all girls I’d seen behave gently and very friendly despite the aspect the guest.
I was glad to see a cute blonde warmly welcoming and taking care of a young man on a wheelchair.
These girls cannot properly defined prostitutes at least along what my experience wit prostitute was in decades ago (“Do not do that!” “Do not touch this! You need to pay me more if you want see me nude……” etc.)
And not to mention it was completely out of mind thinking she could have kissed you as she were your girlfriend. Diffused behavior was to take the client all the possible money with minimum possible effort and no participation. This kind of experiences - even provided you were able to finish successfully in such situations - left me always with a sense of frustration.
In FKKW you feel a welcomed guest and these girls are your friends.
I approached a stunning brunette (she told me she’s from Hungary) and later a second incredibly cute brunette (form Lithuania she said) decided to approach me on the couch.
Both behaved as they were my girlfriend since ever and relocate me mentally in my twenties with since long forgotten emotions. Forget this will cost you 50 Euros, it’s the price of a movie an two pizzas, that you will anyway pay to a friend of yours. Emotions like that have really no price.
Both behaved very passionate, but also show calm when needed and respect (as I also did of course) and patience for some weaknesses; one said I could stay with her in the room to use all my time left for she to speak to me a little; despite other possible guests were waiting for her. She deliberately told me a bit of her life – true or not I could not say - , her earnings (some 1.200 Euro the day before she said from about 20 men). This last detail indicates how much professional a girl must be to maintain her fresh approach to each of all this people.
Definitely a very very good experience and I can assure I had not yet exit the Club, that I was already mentally planning next trip.
I see only one risk, one can become really addicted.
I am recommending simply that if a girl and man come back from a session within 10 or even 20 minutes, looking less than happy then it is a warning sign.
There are all sorts of reasons why a session with an excelent worker may finish early. So it is only if there is a repeated pattern that the girl should be avoided
Seemed perfectly clear to me, Shiatsu. But then again I am able to wread nd rite.
As per the repeated pattern comment - you may STILL be wrong.
After all, it is theoretically possible that Anka from World just regularly gets two guys with premature ejaculation, three execs who are "very busy men and in a rush" and the one guy unlucky enough to have accidentally got her during an off day when she wants to cry and blub in his face about having to pay for both her and her "boyfreinds" flat, all in a row. Every day.
Well, you never know do you? So that teaches you to be a stereotyping git doesen't it!
Note for the ironically challenged: Shiatsu is a mate. A FRIEND, got it?
Mike marrer, me old china, mate (ok I know you're not Newcastle or Cockney but I don't know the colloquial from your part of the world) - I take it that Anka sobbed her story all over you? I assume you met her recently as she is now back at World having tried Oase?
Stinky Pete
08-23-06, 23:45
all girls I’d seen behave gently and very friendly despite the aspect the guest.
I was glad to see a cute blonde warmly welcoming and taking care of a young man on a wheelchair.
These girls cannot properly defined prostitutes.... I agree completely. For the very best service providers at FKK's in Germany, there has got to be a better word than "prostitute". Some of them could be called sacred prostitutes. I have had almost spiritual experiences with a few of these women.
I agree they deserve a better word than "prostitute" because the level of service they provide is so excellent.
Mike marrer, me old china, mate (ok I know you're not Newcastle or Cockney but I don't know the colloquial from your part of the world) - I take it that Anka sobbed her story all over you? I assume you met her recently as she is now back at World having tried Oase?
I think its "Cocker" but since I am a well spoken grammer school oink, I don't use that kind of language.
Ankah was "brought" over to the coocktail bar whilst Fusco and I talked to the HouseMaester, Christian. They thought we lacked company. She took one look at Fusco (whom she sobbed all over) and refused to sit down. After some argument she sat with me and dug her fingernails into my knee as if to say "your Fusco's mate; so choose me and you are dead".
Really funny. I quite like the girl actually. Not for me though.
I agree they deserve a better word than "prostitute" because the level of service they provide is so excellent.
Always used the term "Service Provider" myself...SP for short ;-)
Always used the term "Service Provider" myself...SP for short ;-)
Changing the name of something (for instance the neuclear power station "Windscale" being renamed as "Sellafield" ) because of bad associations doesen't work. Very PC and all that, but it often makes things worse as the Euphamism becomes comical. "Domestic Waste Management and Recycling Technician" instead of "Bin Man" as another example.
Prostitute is not a bad word, or a rude one. it is an accurate one for the profession and not an insult (unless people try and make it so.)
The offence being in your own mind, so to speak.
Having said that, I have used the term "Hired Help" but only for amusement purposes.
Many working girls call themselves prostitutes and do not consider it an insult. A couple call themselves "professonal prostitutes" to show they take a pride in their work!!
Many working girls call themselves prostitutes and do not consider it an insult. A couple call themselves "professonal prostitutes" to show they take a pride in their work!!
Some of the women call themselves "Profis" or professionals as in: "Lass mich dich blasen. Ich bin Profi und ich weiss davon".
I always get a laugh when I describe them as "Entsamungsspezialistinnen" or "Entsaftungsspezialistinnen", literally sperm extraction specialists or juice extraction specialists.
Say either of these to a non-German speaking woman though and you will get a blank stare: "Ich nicht verstehen"...
Then there is the expression: "Lebensabschnittsgefaehrtin" which is a tongue-in-cheek way of describing a girlfriend in real life.
If I see her several times, I tell her we have a "Beziehung". Usually she sees the humor in this expression.
Part of the fun I have at these clubs is with the German language and the communication which takes place with the women.
I would have less of an incentive to go if I were linguistically impaired. This also explains my tendency to go with German women (despite everyone's negative image of them) or at the least the foreign women who speak German well.
On the other extreme, I am perfectly happy to go to a PT Dorsten and go from one Polska to the other and not say a word (they usually can't understand German well there).
A Polish woman at Samya once taught me how to say "fuck me" in Polish. Its something like "pirdol mir nie" (can someone verify?).
Then there is the expression: "Lebensabschnittsgefaehrtin" which is a tongue-in-cheek way of describing a girlfriend in real life.
I always liked "Anhang" as a way of describing a partner. That crazy German language.....
Gruß
Dedalus, der trotzt viele Jahren in Germany, immer noch Probleme mit der Deutschen Sprache hat
Someone has to be enjoying Cordelia this week. She is a most incredible person. She is smart, funny and amazing at sex. If anyone has any thoughts of going to World now is the time. She is easy to talk to and doesn't rush. Cordelia is a "must enjoy" for anyone that is looking for quality!
Bob
I hear that, as expected, Alicia (Spain) has gone. Lovely Taisa is back but is only there for another week (so I will miss her by a couple of days, which is sad for me).
I hear that, as expected, Alicia (Spain) has gone. Lovely Taisa is back but is only there for another week (so I will miss her by a couple of days, which is sad for me).
hey Man,
Yep, I missed her. But several Malibu girls are trying World out for size right now. Anita is a gem!!!!
Cheers,
Dedalus
hey Man,
Yep, I missed her. But several Malibu girls are trying World out for size right now. Anita is a gem!!!!
Cheers,
DedalusI totally agree on Anita. So is Yvette from the same establishment. Excellent session with a nice after session service. Definetly not a clock watcher (she does not even wear one, she just knows aproximate time based on the rythm of the session). Fusco had great time with her as well. Seems that the Malibu girls have their work ethic layed down pretty good.
Chivaz
Another great talent currently at World is Julia from Latvia. Mike will back me up on that one. Blond, full body, great tits, face that resembles Courtney Thorne-Smith. If you feel like spending more than 30 minutes with her, start with a massage, she gives a pretty darn good one using all body parts.
Chivaz
Guys - you are all brilliant in trying to help me find a worthy successor to Taisa on my next trip
How about some descriptions of
Julia
Anita
Yvette.
to help me out?
Guys - you are all brilliant in trying to help me find a worthy successor to Taisa on my next trip
How about some descriptions of
Julia
Anita
Yvette.
to help me out?Hi Shiatsu,
If you check out this picture of Cortney Thorne-Smith http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/images/20031002/AccordingToJim-bios-thorneSmith/according_thornesmith_235x1.jpg and then think of a bit of younger and just a tad plumber version, you have Julia.
Anita has similar body type, full figure. She has a blond hair with dark highlights. Kind of thin mouth.
Yvette is a petite girl with a smallish mousy face. A cup breast (well maybe B cups).
If the Malibu girls are around, they usually hang out together. When we were there, they would usually occupy the sofas next to the entrance in the garden (one night they hung around in the sofast to the right and the other night to the left). There are some pictures on the Malibu website (fkk-malibu.de) of 6 girls and I think it was these six that were at World when we were there. There is one picture where the girls are sitting in and around a hot tub. Anita is the one in the white boots and Yvette is the other one facing the camera (not the one with the blue towel but the one leaning to her left). These are small pictures though so I might be mistaken.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Chivaz]Hi Shiatsu,
If you check out this picture of Cortney Thorne-Smith http://www.ctv.ca/archives/CTVShows/images/20031002/AccordingToJim-bios-thorneSmith/according_thornesmith_235x1.jpg and then think of a bit of younger and just a tad plumber version, you have Julia.
Damn!! there I was thinking I could keep Julia to myself! She is not quite Alicia (sob, sob) when it comes to being wild and uninhibited but a very close second.....
Thank you all. With all those and Cordelia, the time without Taisa (who I mispronounced Tizer) should have sparkle..
Still thinking if I can make a trip to GT just to see Melissa...
Guys - you are all brilliant in trying to help me find a worthy successor to Taisa on my next trip
How about some descriptions of
Julia
Anita
Yvette.
to help me out?
Yes, she is excellent. Not as PSE as some, but certainly more GFE. The pics shown do not do her justice, I find her face stunningly beautiful.
Another girl you must try Shiats is Jana from Lithuania. Not the best face, but the best performance by far. I would describe her as Intense and attentive. She has long blonde hair, sometimes straight sometimes curly.
For some of us this is important information:
Daniela, the Romanian Tornado is back after her long "vacation". It was interesting seeing her let loose all of that stored up energy last night. She did several public performances on stage that were awe inspiring. Even the threesome that she did with Thong-Boy, and Jeanette was arousing.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hey Gents,
Please forgive the following rant, but after nearly ten years of FKKing I have finally found a persons worthy of the worst wrath of Dedalus' darker side. Will follow up with more "concrete" details soon. Meanwhile:
Come hither lads and hear me tale,
Of devious and malice
‘Tis ‘bout a she-wolf straight from Hell,
The creature known as Alice
In Lilith’s shape she roams World’s nooks,
With manners oh, so vicious
In search of men for her meat-hooks,
The creature known as Alice
From whence she came we know not where,
Not city, state, nor address
For truths her tongue shall never bear,
The creature known as Alice
Her dark, dank caves all victims know,
Temptation’s game so reckless
Lead hoards where ne’er the Angels go,
This creature known as Alice
From Satan’s loins this creature came,
A being coarse and callus
So vicious is the one we name,
The evil thing called Alice
Her soul is black, more so her heart,
Her skin is made of cactus
In Satan’s play she knows her part,
The she-devil named Alice
Beware the strange! The dark! The night!
For demons prowl and tempt us
But most of all mind well the bite,
Of the creature known as Alice.
Pictures from their Starlight Ladies days:
@Fats: For a while Anita was at Malibu, and was the absolute star there. The pic that Fats submitted captures her very well. I has her two times at Malibu, and it was outstanding.
@Deadalus: you are quoting that old Smokie song ... this is gonna be good, 'cause (everybody sing along now):
"Oh, I don't know why she's leaving,
Or where she's gonna go,
I guess she's got her reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Alice.
Alice, who the fuck is Alice"
For obvious reasons I can't say too much. However, take Dedalus's warnings very very seriously.
@Fats: For a while Anita was at Malibu, and was the absolute star there. The pic that Fats submitted captures her very well. I has her two times at Malibu, and it was outstanding.
@Deadalus: you are quoting that old Smokie song ... this is gonna be good, 'cause (everybody sing along now):
"Oh, I don't know why she's leaving,
Or where she's gonna go,
I guess she's got her reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Alice.
Alice, who the fuck is Alice"
Hey Euro,
The woman is indeed poison.
Now Anita on the other hand is a jewel!!! On the two past weekends I had wonderful times with her. Not sure whether or not she will stay in Pohlheim but she was always busy. An absolute doll and not to be missed!!!
Cheers,
Dedalus, waxing a warning:
In moments hence,
Should alice cross thine way a' night,
Take heed! Tarry not!
The safe, sage course 'tis rapid flight!
If I'm not mistaken - I spent some time with Anita when she was also at FKK Beach during the short-lived time that the Starlight Ladies gang was running it. If it's the same one - She was indeed the star there too. Tremendous positive energy...
For obvious reasons I can't say too much. However, take Dedalus's warnings very very seriously.I just hope someone at World is taking notice on what is going on. I am not putting my foot inside that club until they clean up the Alice mess and I am not the only one.
Chivaz
I just hope someone at World is taking notice on what is going on. I am not putting my foot inside that club until they clean up the Alice mess and I am not the only one.
Chivaz
Chivaz,
Don't avoid this place just because of one bad apple. There are so many absolute gems there. Most importantly let the management know your feelings on the matter and go on enjoying the rest of the feast!
I just wish that it was easier to get to World, so many of us are jealous of your easy access. If you are there be sure to take in the joys of Cordelia. She is probably the best there is!
Enjoy,
Bob
Chivaz,
Don't avoid this place just because of one bad apple. There are so many absolute gems there. Most importantly let the management know your feelings on the matter and go on enjoying the rest of the feast!
I just wish that it was easier to get to World, so many of us are jealous of your easy access. If you are there be sure to take in the joys of Cordelia. She is probably the best there is!
Enjoy,
BobManagement is quite aware of the problem. Now they need to act on it. I can only vote with my money, and my vote is not going to World until Alice the wicked is out of there with a footprint on her ass.
I have taken in the joy of Cordelia. One of the most memorable sessions ever for me (in a good way).
Chivaz
Alice is not there today. Whether she will return or not after a couple of weeks break I do not know
Hey Guys,
I told the lady at the desk on Sunday that alice's actions forced me into a temporary "Hausverbot" since it makes no sense for me to visit a club, even one of my favorites, if there are a few girls pointing me out as a non-paying crazy man. Even if alice is banned, the damage to me is done. I am sure that I would have no problems with Anita, Daniela, Banne, Olga, Alexandra, and many others, but it was not comfortable for me last Sunday. I did a session with a girl last Sunday whose name I will not mention. As we were going down the stairs Anna-Marie (who I have never been with but have always smiled at and been courteous to) was following us with a guest. The girl I was with later told me that AM asked her why she would go to a room with a crazy man. I had been with the girl before so she knew that this was BS, but she told me that alice HAD gone around to everyone with vitriol about me.
alice is a beast and I am glad that she is gone. I will also admit that I would have liked a little more support from the lady at the front desk on the night that alice tooled me out of an extra 50, but I can forgive that. I actually believe that the management SHOULD support the girls as there are a number of male guests who can be crappy to the ladies. I've been going there since they opened and they know that I don't have truck with any of that bad behavior.
Gents, the last thing that I want is to call for a boycott on World. It is a good club and they do most things pretty darn well. I get along with the service personnel at all of the clubs, but I find Franzi, Ruth, Patricia and the others to be wonderful and they always make me feel like World is a home away from home.
This was a bad incident and alice is a blight on what I think is an otherwise great club. I think that the management knows this and has taken steps. World is a club that, while dealing with a decent amount of tourist traffic, is mostly geared toward regulars. I am one of those and I am sure that they appreciate this and want my business as well as that of every other well-mannered regular. I will have to keep GT and Palace on my visit list for a while until things cool down a bit but I will be back, and soon I hope.
Cheers,
Dedalus, exiled but not excommunicated
Dedalus
Cordelia has asked me to write. She says it will all blow over very quickly, and as the club is aware of Alice's bad press maybe she won't come back. One man was extremely sensible and has e-mailed the club about her. The club does read this forum
Our club companion wild Alicia (the Spanish girl with possibly doubtful provenance is now trying her best to be nice - that shows how quickly it all blows over.
A point from me - I know what it is like to be conspicuous in a club and for some girls to point the finger. There was a time when some girls were foul to me because of my relationship with Cordelia. I decided not to let it get to me - and within a very very short time they realised that they were wrong - especially when they saw me getting on well with some other girls.
Dedalus
Our club companion wild Alicia (the Spanish girl with possibly doubtful provenance is now trying her best to be nice - that shows how quickly it all blows over. .
I wonder what precipitated the change in attitude. She was rather vicious to me on Sunday. I was actually worried for her because I am quite sure that had Michael seen or heard some of what she was doing and saying, she would have also been in trouble, and I would not want that for her.
A point from me - I know what it is like to be conspicuous in a club and for some girls to point the finger. There was a time when some girls were foul to me because of my relationship with Cordelia. I decided not to let it get to me - and within a very very short time they realised that they were wrong - especially when they saw me getting on well with some other girls.
Believe it or not, I thought about you on Sunday. One should walk a mile in another man's shoes ;-)))))
Cheers,
Dedalus
I will look out for her at Finca Erotika, which is where all the bad girls go! Finca being the sister club of World and currently stocked with a few gems. Will report back.
recently spent about 56 hours at world over four days (and, no, that is not a record – there is one man who recently stayed there for three solid days and nights two weeks running!)
numbers of workers and guest varied. friday a total over 14 hours of about 70+ girls and about 50 men – which meant that it was one of the worst days ever for the workers. saturday about 160+ men and 60 girls. sunday about 60 men and 50 girls. monday about 60 men and 40 girls. (these figures are estimates over a 14 hour time period – they were not all there at the same time)
these variations mean that the experience was very uneven. at certain times there were 20 girls in the main room and no men. sometimes it was totally reversed. there were periods where ennuie seemed to be the main atmosphere and others where the atmosphere was like a great party
my impression of the workers was that they were the greatest range of style and quality in all the time i have been going to world. something for just about everyone. the atmosphere was generally very friendly – no longer any sourfaced gaggles of girls.
the longer i am there the more i appreciate the effort the club puts into trying to produce quality. there are four changes of meal during the whole day (although fresh vegetables are still an endangered species) – ranging from muesli, fruit, scrambled egg, rolls, meat in the morning, to schnitzel and dumplings and pickled vegetables and soup (for example) in the evening
in the current good weather there are four bars - the main bar, the grillbar, the beach bar, and the relaxzone bar at various points in the day
and of course there are the large gardens where you can get away for some total solitude if you want. and the two swimming pools etc
and it is very clean – i watched as a staff members dismantled the giant plastic palms, washed them and re-assembled them
at one time the man who runs the roemerforum was the only other man in the main room and he was watching eagle eyed what was going on. including me. the two of us were playing the same game. seeing how long each girl spent in the room etc. he is an example of how to watch a room
my highlights
1. alicia. i have totalled about 9 sessions with alicia, who labels herself spanish. sex with her is totally wild and each time i wonder how i emerge unrep001hed. this time there was some more tender elements. she spent a lot of short breaks with me in between customers just chilling out and chatting to me about her domestic circumstances etc. i was about to leave with cordelia on my last day, having already said goodbye, when cordelia said would i like to do a room with alicia as a better way of saying goodbye. ten minutes total!! (so, as i have previously said, if a girl regularly gets rid of men in 10 minutes, take warning, but be aware that there are all sorts of valid reasons why a good worker might have the occasional rush session) with alicia rolling in laughter at the scenario. i think i left her with cheerful memories of me. she is leaving the business this week for good. i shall remember her gently outrageous behaviour which amused me – stealing drinks off men with a haughty smile. she took several of mine – but then made a special trip to get me a drink in recompense.
2.anna marie. she has now joined the long list of those who will not go with me, "out of respect for cordelia" as they normally put it. however i ended up with a more precious jewel from her. i do not mean the truly beautiful and sad dance she did in the main room (which left her with huge bruises the next day), but the long time we spent talking to each other. reminiscing about the long time we have know each other, and what dilemmas the present holds. i admitted to her (to her embarrassment) that one of the delights of world is simply to look at her beautiful body –as well as to share her chat. and i like her honesty
3.taisa (or tina to use her working name) was there for two days. i had as many sessions with her as circumstances would allow. i found her to be a generous, sensitive, stable girl with a good heart and a brain to match.
there were other girls i had my eye on. particularly alessandra (?) with the red boots and the intriguing rolling of the head as she assesses the world. however she was off ill most of the time
i guess i am now firmly embedded in fkkw. this has some advantages since i have more people to say hello to in any downtimes. annette choosing music for the club at my request and to show me what she liked. it is fun to be able to say hi to olga, adriana, sharon , stella, daniela, and others on the list of those who will not go with me
At one time the man who runs the Roemerforum was the only other man in the main room and he was watching eagle eyed what was going on. Including me. The two of us were playing the same game. Seeing how long each girl spent in the room etc. He is an example of how to watch a room
Hey Shiatsu,
Newbies would have a lot to learn about how to sit back and pick out the better service providers from those who want to turn tricks as quickly as possible.
Was your fellow observer Wolfl (his real name is Wolfgang)? I often let him know when I'm town and we have gotten together to hobby. I need to reconnect with him the next time I am there.
It was my last day in Europe, I drove several hours till Frankfurt only to spend my last night in FKK World. I had a meeting with Shiatsu, Cordelia, Iseeu and Peter, reason enough to make all that trip. I didn’t need to pay as I had still a few VIP cards from last time. The girl behind the desk recognized me from last time. When I entered the main room after my first shower, Martina came to see me and gave me a nice hug. She is so small that she was nearly giving me a BJ! I had already a first name on my to do list. But I spotted already Cordelia and approached her. She called Shiatsu and we introduced ourselves as we had never met us before. We agreed to meet us at the dining room after my first club survey. There were not too many customers for a Friday night, but god, what a line-up! There were probably some 60 girls. I recognized some of them, but there was again a huge turn-over since last time. I became anxious, as I felt I would never get through my to do list before closing time for my very last night in FKK!
I joined Cordelia and Shiatsu at the dining table. Shiatsu informed me that Iseeu wouldn’t make it to World. Shiatsu described me the today’s line-up and told me that unfortunately there seemed to be no Latina for me. But I spotted already Cuban Gloria entering the club. I apologized for my lack of socializing skills before a first sexual relief, and rushed towards Gloria. Gloria is Bani’s compañera, and I had met her only once last year. But, she remembered me very well and was happy to see me. Cordelia and Shiatsu approached us, said hello to Gloria. Cordelia gave me a sign that she approved my choice and here we went to the room for my first session.
There is a strange chemistry between Gloria and me. It was as if she continued the discussion were we left it from last year. I warned Gloria that I have had a long trip by car and was tired. No problem, so she started with a massage that made me feel much better. Yes, Gloria is amazing, as she gives also professional massage. We discussed together while she performed the massage. I told her it was even better than sex. She said that when she used to have a man, she always gave a massage when he came back from his work. But in exchange, she requested also having sex each day! The lucky bastard, he is the most stupid man on earth having lost such a gem! Gloria, like Bani has an excellent attitude. Both are always in a good mood, nothing seem to make them upset. They are always making fun. She looks like a teenager with her petite body but she is already 33. I was dreaming away how could life have been if I had met her 15 years ago before both of us were committed to another life.
But Gloria had just arrived in the club and seemed to be horny. Time for action! Gloria can switch from GFE to PSE in less time than I can handle it emotionally. Her stamina is endless and she comes always up with new positions she learned from Kama Sutra. Incredible was she manages to do with her body! During all my FKK tour, I had to apologize each time to the girls as I felt I was abusing. I managed even to knock out two partytreff girls one after another, but this time, I was the victim! I asked for mercy and finished exhausted. We both laid on the bed, our bodies sweating.
And again Gloria switched from PSE to GFE. The perfect woman. We discussed for a while, and time seemed to be no problem for her. We kissed tenderly and I was dreaming away in her eyes. What is she beautiful! I knew I would see her later, so we left the room and I had again that stupid smile on my face while crossing together World’s main room.
I saw again Shiatsu, he informed me he wouldn’t stay too long, as Cordelia was tired. I wondered how I would manage to recognize Peter as he was still not arrived, but was not too worried, there were not too many people. I went to take a drink at the bar when I saw a familiar face. I smiled, she answered my smile and I approached her. Yes, it was “Not-Helga”, Euro’s all time favorite! My friend Euro was in Rio, so as a perfect gentleman, I had to take care of the lady. Sorry Euro, that’s why friends are for! As usual, “Not-Helga” claimed at first not to know me and that I was mixing her up with another girl. Haha, for sure no! And she even was dressed with her favorite “net” pant. We discussed together while having a drink. I tried to win time, as I just came out of the room with Gloria, but I could not let her escape. I felt also guilty towards Shiatsu as I knew he would leave the club soon. Sorry Shiatsu if we hadn’t spend more time together, you know what it is!
“Not-Helga” offered me to go to the kino. Why? I wasn’t in the mood to watch a porn movie! There were already two naked girls on the mattress. We took place near them and “Not-Helga” asked them for a condom, like elsewhere someone would ask for a chewing gum. This is what I like in FKK, it’s unique atmosphere of respect and tolerance. But soon I forgot all my environment and had eyes only for “Not Helga”. Euro can tell you about better than I do, she is definitely Playboy quality model. And I was the lucky guy who was fucking her! Life is good! To respect to Euro, I prefer not to give more details about our session. We discussed a long time together after the sex in the kino. She offered me to see us also outside the club. I feel free to write it on the public board as I didn’t give her identity. But when I inquired about the expected rates, I knew this would not be an option for me, as I was used to other rates for “Todo La Noche”. At the locker room, she asked me for 100€. I didn’t hesitate a second and handed her over the money, as I knew I stayed for more than 30 minutes with her and that she is worth it. But still, nearly all my sessions during this FKK trip were longer than 30 minutes, and she was the first to ask me to pay for it. I guess the lady is getting too expensive for me. While she was giving me her Email, Peter approached us. “Not-Helga” smiled and said: “Again your Internet meeting!”.
For long time I was looking forward to meet the legendary Peter. His reports made me come to the FKK scene, and of course, my first FKK ever was his favorite Parksauna Wildenrath. And here we were, both showering together!
We took a drink together, and learned to know each other. The details about our personal lives were new to both of us, but I fully recognized Peter from his writings. I had already two sessions behind me in an excellent mood to socialize, but I saw Peter’s eyes rolling around to get an idea about the available line-up. He made also a quick survey and came back enthusiastic announcing he would stay till closing time. From the description of his shortlist selection, it appeared clearly that we had the same taste. We had dinner together and went downstairs at the small bar. There was a small group of Romanian girls dancing on the music from their home country. Compared to the old fashioned music catering for the German customers in Goldentime, World has a much better selection of music. I had promised a dance to Gloria, but I missed her when Salsa and Bachata was going on.
Peter and I had spotted the same girls, it’s definitely a problem when we both have the same taste! Both were young and pretty, slim figure with beautiful blue eyes. We made up our choice before approaching them and I chose the smallest one. Bad luck! Mine seemed not to be going well. Indeed, she was drunk. She apologized and asked to leave the club. Peter’s one was doing great. Her name is Anna Maria, she is 20 years old and comes from Romania. She has an incredible perfect slim body. Lucky bastard Peter!
I didn’t stay very long alone, Gloria came back to see me and asked me for a cocktail drink. She kept me company till Peter and Anna Maria came back together. Peter joked about us as we looked like two lovers, but we both replied embarrassed that we were just good friends. Peter and I had each our girlfriend, and we switched from German to English and Spanish. Peter and I had all kind of stories to tell about our mongering experience, the one that you can not put on the public board. The girls listened to our stories too as we didn’t feel embarrassed for them to know about our Internet activities. On my way back later, I had to keep awaken to drive. I just needed to remember Peter’s stories to keep laughing and not to fall asleep. If you have seen someone driving at 5am Saturday on the German highway in a foreign renting car and laughing alone, it was me Routard! We had also more serious thoughs, like the fear of members from our private life learning about our secret activities. Not the mongering activities, it can be explained to go "once on a while" to a brothel. But reading each detail about our unexpected extensive sex life and learning about our status on Internet of "reference in prostitution information" is another story.
I made Gloria spinning with my latest salsa figures, and she was impressed even if I lost my towel in the performance. We had great fun all four together at the bar. It was like a pub atmosphere, except that the girls were naked and that we both were lurking to each other girlfriend. I made Anna Maria understand I wanted to session with her, but she was embarrassed for Gloria. No problem, Peter was already taking care of her. That’s why friends are for! We stood up all four and disappeared in (separate) rooms. What a session! But again, I feel embarrassed to give more details about Peter’s girlfriend!
Peter left earlier, and I stayed alone with Gloria. We went to eat together and the conversation became much more personal. We were both open about our private life. Gloria is incredible. Once she becomes serious, she appears to be a very intelligent woman. She learned me a lot of things about love, sex, women and the issues around the business. It was one of the most open discussion I have ever had with a SP. I can’t reveal most of it on as it is belongs either to her or my private life, but there are a few things worth to share on the public board.
When I came with my latest mystery about women, the orgasm I gave to a girl I had met in partytreff, the less romantic possible situation I could imagine, she was not surprised about it. She explained that orgasm is an issue for SP, as at makes it difficult to continue both physically and emotionally. Experienced SP learn to protect themselves about it and don’t feel anything when having sex. Chemistry has nothing to do with age or beauty, and when there is chemistry, the SP just can take off her protection and orgasm, no matter how much sex she had before. Quantity of sex she had before doesn’t change anything about how she enjoys sex, it’s only a matter of chemistry with her partner. Looks like men are very different right guys?
She asked me if it was important to me, and I replied that the worst was faking, but the best gift a SP could make me was her orgasm, not mine. She was silent for a while and had learned probably something too (at least from me, not sure you guys have the same opinion). I was wondering too if she would try next time to give me that gift.
When I told her my story about Aurelia (my bareback love story at Goldentime), I saw her for the first time becoming upset: “Eres loco! Nunca te confies a una puta!”. Was she disappointed about me, was it some kind of jealousy (in the positive way)? I replied that she was a hooker too and that I fully trusted her, which calmed her down. She explained me that hookers can easily simulate love, don’t even ask money for some time and then come up with an incredible story and a sudden need of huge amount of money to help them out of it. When I explained more about my story, she agreed indeed that it looked sincere, or at least that I was not as naïve as she might have believed it at first. Anyway, she gave me a lesson and I still hear her sentence loud and clear in my head.
Gloria is amazing, she gave me also plenty of advice for my personal sex life, as I might have the quality but not the requested quantity at home. She was even ready to come and visit me to help spicing it up! She was serious about it, as she has family nearby my place. Yes, she takes the social worker part of her job very seriously. I told you she is a real gem!
I was thinking of a last session with her, the very last one of my FKK tour, but she was worried for me. She knew I had a long drive to make without sleep to catch my plane. She kindly asked me to leave now, take care on the road and try to make a nap in between. She gave me her cellphone number and I left, asking her to remind me to Bani too.
On my way home, I was thinking how nice it could be having a regular club instead of sampling each time new clubs. But I guess I have still not find my favorite club. It should have the facilities of World, the decoration of Palace, the line-up of Oase, the service of Goldentime, the atmosphere of Bernd’s and the pricing of Heavensgate. Or it’s simply a club were I could meet up friends like Gloria and Bani or ISG fellow members. Thanks for coming, it was nice meeting you Cordelia, Shiatsu and Peter!
I think Sandra ("not-Helga")has now moved to Palace.
It was nice to meet the famous Routard!!!. We were just sorry we had to leave early, but we were both tired and the day was quiet. Glad you had such a good time with the very nice Gloria
The warning I made about prices was simply that sometimes they need to be checked at the beginning of a session. It depends on one's gut instinct about a girl. It can also work the other way - with one girl I did not check beforehand and found that she was very generous with the time
Great report Routard!
I told you I was sort of embarassed in how you really have become a better poster than me, and that that sort of bothers me. But meeting you more than made up for it.
I am glad I went down the Frankfurt way again, and I wish I had gotten out of work earlier and done my whole plan of hitting bernds, then world, adn finishing the night off in Oase.
But Anna Maria made up for it.
Rout is being kind to Anna Maria, because although she was one of the best sessions I have had in a long time, and it really clicked, I sort of ruined her mood.
We had some great sex, and she was really getting into me (I hate it wehn people say that on the boards, but this time I think it really was). She got very wet, and very into it. When I flipped her over and started doing her doggy, adn then got her on her stomach she was really going for it, as was I. What happened for the first time in my career was that the wetness and the motion caused the rim of the condom to get into the vagina, adn when I finished and pulled out, the condom didn't.
We fished it out and it seems verything was in the condom, but it still didn't stop her from going from super happy to worried as hell in seconds.
I felt bad about it, but I had my tests back a month ago and I am fully clean, so I am not worried.
But I cannot compete with rout's version fo the story, so I won't even try.
Hey Peter,
Back to the Rhein/Main region and away from the NRW area? Das gibts doch nicht. I hope that you had a good one or two at Pohlheim. Ann Marie is a cute one but I have never taken the plunge. I would have thought that Taisa or Tina or whatever name she is going by right now would have been right up your taste-alley.
I may be making a GT run next weekend. Give a shout if you are around.
Hey Shiatsu,
Too bad about Alicia. I was kinda hoping to make everything right with her. Qué Será Será.
Are the Malibu girls still trying World out for size?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Jackyo - yes I think it was Wolfl. I did not however introduce myself. Maybe next time I will
Dedalus - I think Alicia will not be carrying any grudges. Alice just got her wound up for a day. She is going to be around FFM on and off for the forseeable future, so you may catch a glimpse of her in the Zeil. As for the Malibu girls - I didn't see any I could definitely recognise: I had enough Slovakian virtues and graces to occupy me so I didn't worry. Apologies for being such a poor scout!!
Routard - sp views on orgasms.... my two pence worth...I think they are all different. A very very few girls find that they have orgasms in most sessions simply out of the physical experience, and they ride the energy. Most do not commit enough of themselves emotionally to experience an orgasm. Some will readily have an orgasm if they trust the client and he puts in the effort to look after her as a person. If the sp is tired (or hungover or ill) then an orgasm is most unlikely. I always try to choose a sp who I think is in the group who will have an orgasm if they trust the client and the client looks after them.
Hello Shiatsu,
Word on the Roemerforum is that she was seen a few days ago (Friday I think). I almost made the drive when I read that.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Dedalus - She said Friday would be her last day
As for Malibu gilrs - the roemerforum reports that they are there. I didn't fancy any of them - but then I always was a bit weird :-)
I think Taisa might be the slovak girl who Rout and I thought was hot, but she was drunk and upset and took off.
Anna Maria was hot!
I told you I was sort of embarassed in how you really have become a better poster than me, and that that sort of bothers me. But meeting you more than made up for it.
I can't believe my master Obiwan Peterbi says this in front of all the other ISG Yedi members. Looks like I've reached the dark side of mongering.
Let the force be with you.
Routard Skywalker.
The only thing I regret about that day was that cordelia and shiatsu had already left. I wanted to see them again. But my post quality and frequency has really declined of late. I don't know if I am disillusioned, but I am not finding many amazing girls in clubs or having completely memorable experiences wiht the same frequency lately.
I mean Anne Marie was great, and could have been fantastic were it not for a bit of smoke smell on her and the lost condom thing, and I was happy to get back with Natascha at Wildenrath, btu just no Mascha's, Domi's, Lili's, Anna's or any of the other top 10's that used to have me skipping back to the car from clubs and counting the hours until my next trip.
Maybe I really have to make it to Rio or Sao Paolo to get my pay sex libido kicked back into gear!
Even Monika, who was a piece of furniture at Wildenrath has quit the game. so glad that my last time with her was so good.
Peter - we were sorry to miss you, but Cordelia had been in the club for a week straight so needed an early night.
I was interested about your "disillusion". I think that many of us who have visited clubs very regularly go through a process of changing expectations. The initial wow factor wears off if one goes to clubs more than once a month. After that it is perhaps not so easy continually reach new peaks, and what once might have seemed a brilliant experience can come to seem just average.
You are right about Taisa being a little the worse for wear - one of the girls had a "name" day and several of them celebrated, having been very down because the day was one of the quietest days ever at World (oddly the following day was one of the busiest ever!). I spent a lot of time with her again the following day and she was in the process of recovering - slowly. Really lovely person
And Anna-Marie. I am glad she was hot - I remember her inexperience when she first came. As I said previously she will now only talk to me. She is well -respected. I like her tough honesty
Maybe I really have to make it to Rio or Sao Paolo to get my pay sex libido kicked back into gear!
Even Monika, who was a piece of furniture at Wildenrath has quit the game. so glad that my last time with her was so good.
Hey Peter,
Sounds like you are going down the road which Kaleu took. Maybe in the end, all roads lead to Brazil. :-)
Funny but Kaleu would meet Americans every now and then but none of them could figure out how to pronounce his name. Some thought he really meant to be called "Kahlua".
Kaleu will become one of those legendary figures in the scene particularly as each year passes and he doesn't return. He was so obsessed with the scene he created one of the earliest, most comprehensive club lists.
So Monika from Wildenrath has retired?! Oh no! Pretty soon someone will announce that the sky is falling too.
I don't doubt that Kaleu and Monika have met though. He reported often about Wildenrath.
He would visit clubs without a car, entirely on public transportation. Getting to Wildenrath without a car is an accomplishment.
Maybe I really have to make it to Rio or Sao Paolo to get my pay sex libido kicked back into gear!
Since others are hooking into this statement, please allow me to add my two cents.
As some of you know, I have been to Brazil twice for a fuckation last year, and I have posted extensively in the Rio section. And I have been to Germany three times during the year as well. So I think I have a pretty god comparsion.
As for the excitement factor, the termas in Rio beat any FKK be a very long shot. In particular, my favorite place there is now a place called 4*4. Here area couple of reports that I wrote on it:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502249&postcount=1734
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502248&postcount=1733
Price comparison: 1 euro = 2.6 Brazilian reais. So the FKK experience is about as expensive as the terma in Brazil (even though you can find places in Rio, too, that are quite a bit cheaper). But! The standard of living in Brazil is much lower than in Germany. So if a girl gets 50 euro from you in an FKK, that is not much money, but if a girl get 100 reais from you in a terma, that is a lot. So a girl can afford to stay with you the whole evening and hang with you, if she just gets one pop out of you. Often a terma girl will even come to your hotel room for free afterwards, if you play your cards right. (Why would she do this? Because you are a rich tourist, and she is hoping to make you her (semi-)permanent sugar-daddy). In other words, the place is set up for fantastic GFE, too, if you so desire. This is not so much the case at 4*4, but very much the case at L'uomo, my other favorite terma in Rio. Here is a post to give you a flavor of L'uomo, but if you search you can find many others that I have posted:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=502255&postcount=1738
OK, so by now you are probably thinking, what the fuck, why would he ever come back to an FKK, if he likes it so much better in Rio. One word: variety! And Peter, I sense that this is what you are lacking, too. The mongering hobby is all about trying out different aspects of the sex live. Anything that turns into a routine ends up boring. If you don't believe the previous sentence, then just ask anybody who is married (possible exception: Shiatsu ;) ).
So I will be back at FKKW in September, and I will meet "Not-Helga" and have a great time with her (yes, I have set this up already ... THANKS, Routard), and I will make new "girl-friends". I am looking forward to it.
euro
I thought Kaleu's list was alive again. A couple of months ago I found it and it seemed to have new clubs on it. Am i wrong?
"Anything that turns into a routine ends up boring" says Euro100. Since he asks my opinion :eek: Euro is quite right. part of it is in the attitude - one can do the same thing each day with a different awareness and it becomes new - but for most ordinary mortals (including me) it's nice to meet new people and new places from time to time. Even when the person one is spending every day with Cordelia :D
I thought Kaleu's list was alive again. A couple of months ago I found it and it seemed to have new clubs on it. Am i wrong?
.. but its no longer run by Kaleu.
The Roemer have taken it over.
He also had a connection with the CFIT people but they had a falling out. They, for a while, would link to his list.
Every time I think of Kaleu I can't help thinking of the Three Musketeers, by the way.
It wa Anna Maria's Name day, and that is what she was celebrating.
I really liked Taisa's face, an A-M's body, and AM and I clicked. If you see her again say hi from me.
And I have met Kaleu twice and he is a great guy. I also know I tempted im to come back once with pics I put up, so all hope is not yet lost.
What is the proper pronunciation (Kahh lay u)? I screwed up Isseu's name forever.
Peter, sad she was drunk that night, but it looks like you will head back to Pohlheim again...We might have lost Kaleu, but not yet Peter.
Routard who is for sure not yet desillusioned by the FKK scene.
And I have met Kaleu twice and he is a great guy. I also know I tempted im to come back once with pics I put up, so all hope is not yet lost.
What is the proper pronunciation (Kahh lay u)? I screwed up Isseu's name forever.
.. Kah-loy and I've heard him pronounce it this way.
(the Kah is the same as "Pakh your Kah in Havahd Yahd", as JFK would say it, the Loy is the same as in Loyalty)
Peter - I will say hello to Anna Marie from you. I am going tomorrow and if she is there am sure to spend some time with her. How shall I identify you to her. I knew it was her name day (she has three a year due to her double name!) - but I get over-cautious about what I post after some bad experiences in the past with isg members telling girls what I post. My ideal day for tomorrow - Cordelia, Taisa, Anna-Marie, Taisa, Cordelia, Taisa, Taisa, Taisa, Cordelia.....
Btw - you are not the only one to screw up Iseeu's name - I got it totally totally wrong when i first met him
Shiatsu, Peter,
All is forgiven - as long as you remember the person, the legend, you can screw up and say the name any way that you want.
To quote Mark Twain: " Familiarity breeds contempt - and children." :-)
GabrielPontello
09-25-06, 11:59
OK, so by now you are probably thinking, what the fuck, why would he ever come back to an FKK, if he likes it so much better in Rio.
The mongering hobby is all about trying out different aspects of the sex live. Anything that turns into a routine ends up boring.
If you don't believe the previous sentence, then just ask anybody who is married.
Not jocking neither kidding you guys...I'm really amazed by this kind of posts, talking about the meaning of our hobby more than the performances of some specific girl.
I love so much Brazil that this country became a sort of second home-country for me and I HAD to learn the language to feel completely involved in their life style.
Anyway I'm also FKK-addicted because I guess there's no place in the world where you can find so many cute and sexy girl all together at same time, not even in a thai massage parlour, tough, as fas as I rememember is a nice place...
Even the Termas in Rio, tough good, are not so nice as for the facilities and the quality of the girls.
The atmosphere is different too.
The termas girls usually give their best if you meet'em outside (not hard to have their cell phone to book'em as freelancers...); the FKK's ones look to me have a higher average standard of service, no matter if inside or outside the club, IMHO.
The only great and substantial difference I noticed between these 2 paradies are the peaks.
I mean that in the FKK galaxy you can find a very high standard (with some low peak, fortunately rare); in Brazil you often risk big rip-offs and poor quality but you can also find some real gem and the risk becomes to get in love with her.
Just check the following link and can aproximately understand what I mean:
http://www.niveltop.net/isamagnani.html
fkk world is a large club, and each area seems to have it’s own atmosphere with it’s own behaviour code. i don’t remember anyone having mentioned it before, i wonder if it’s reality or only in my mind, and i’m looking forward your comments. i sometimes make some comparison with other clubs to make it clearer.
entrance and locker’s room
this is the transition area between the normal world and the fantasy world, the only place were naked people and dressed people share the same space together. fkk world with non verbal communication makes it clear that this club is unique. this is the only fkk without buzzer and as far as i know the largest entrance room of all. i have also never seen in another brothel a customer’s opinion form. welcome in the world’s biggest brothel on earth were customer’s satisfaction goes first!
it may sound strange, but i have some personal feelings with this entrance, it’s some kind of gate to paradise. my last memories too also are always here, in the locker’s room or at the entrance desk: writing done a girl’s phone number, a last smile or a last kiss.
shower
this is not the best part of the club, there is no atmosphere here, as it’s for customers only. i miss the atmosphere of goldentime’s mixed shower. there is no better way to start in a good mood than taking a first shower together with a few naked girls.
still, for some strange reason, most of my first isg meetings happened in the shower! anywhere else, i would be suspicious meeting a fully naked stranger. but as i know already all his sexual fantasies from his writings, i feel confident.
the main area
here is the best overview of the club, most customers and girls are here. girls are clearly waiting to be picked-up here, as it’s some kind of showroom, and men are clearly trying to make up their to do list for the night. meetings might be straightforward, without too much small talks and coach action, although the bar tends to soften a bit this picture, as well as the sofas near the room. coach action is not the norm here in front of everybody. it might be boring, but sometimes the atmosphere becomes much more funny, when a girl makes a dancing performance or when a few customers too start to dance with the girls.
in fact, the only main area that has definitely a special vibe is the bernd’s one. one of the reason is that everybody, girls and men share the same large u shaped sofa, allowing to communicate without commitment. another reason is the unique coach action of this club.
the kino
no one cares of course about what is on the screen, the show is the audience itself. yes, everybody seems to know the unwritten rule, the kino is for coach action. and coach action in the kino is not only a bbbj before proceeding to the room, it’s the complete session. still, i have never felt doing public sex while having coach action here, as it ‘s nearly empty and too dark for it. also, the world’s kino has by far not the same orgy’s atmosphere than the one of oase or goldentime. in these clubs, the kino is for the girls the area were they have a licence to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) any innocent visitor daring to enter.
the dining room
this is a no sex zone. girls eating here are taking a break. they agree to socialize however, else they would sit down at the two tables behind the wall, a small area between the locker’s room and the main dining room. this is the most mysterious are for me, i never dared to enter it. it seems forbidden to customers. the main dining room on the contrary is a nice socializing area, it allows engaging conversation with girls or other customers and without commitment.
the corridor
there is some kind of rough atmosphere in the corridor between the upper and lower floor. girls tend to believe that a walking man is a hunting man. they take advantage of the narrow space to grab their prey. some men forget that they are the prey in this fantast world and have a kind of natural reflex to grab too if any female is too close. this wild atmosphere doesn’t make things easy for anyone simply trying to go from one floor to another.
the swimming pool and jacuzzi
any first timer has high expectations about this area, imagining himself playing with all those naked swimming hotties like in the playboy mansion of his wet dreams. unfortunately, seldom a girl dares to enter the swimmingpool because of a few hygienic reasons (skin aggression and risk of infection). even going together in a jacuzzi means the same commitment for a session as a bj on the coach. but as there are relax chairs and as it is a main transit area, you can still sit down and relax while watching the naked girls walking along the swimmingpool. it’s one of the only fkk with swimmingpool, and with the best atmosphere. cocoon or 214 saarbrucken have also swimming pools, but they are in an empty room and oase’s swimmingpool has no relax chairs.
the sauna
it’s supposed to be the main reason for men and girls to come here remember? anything else occurring between both is supposed to be not the management’s business. well, the sauna is definitely an alibi only, plenty of regular sauna customers have never ever used this facility!
sex is forbidden in the sauna for hygienic reasons, some fkk have even a written rule about this. it’s not a meeting place too unfortunately, as few girls go for a sauna. what a pity, no other place makes me so horny than a sauna, while watching the sweating tanned skin of a perfect naked body lying on the wood, having small talks with an exhausted voice and struggling for staying a few more moments together in this hot atmosphere. i have never resisted to a girl i have met in a sauna.
the massage room
don’t mix it up, massage here means professional non sex massage. only at bernd’s you can screw the masseuse too!
the outdoor area
world has by far the most impressive outdoor garden with even a large swimmingpool and a new beach area for the summer. i have some unforgettable experiences in the oase’s and goldentime’s outdoor garden, remembering me my first teenager sex experiences during summer holidays. for some reason, i have never been to world during the summer, and can’t comment about the atmosphere and behaviour code in the outdoor garden.
the downstairs living area
animation in this area starts when it becomes too crowded upstairs. some men take this area as a relaxing non sex area. hunting girls do not agree and wake them up. still, i like this area, as it allows not only relaxing, but also nice coach action. one idea for the management could be to try to create the same atmosphere as bernd’s with large u shaped sofas.
the downstairs bar
this area has an atmosphere of it’s own, as alcoholic drinks are available for extra charge. girls come here to party together and only regular customers seem to be allowed to partake with them. girls seem to forget here that they are working, it’s the place were they have fun. it’s not the best place to meet a girl, but it’s the best place to hang around with a few regulars girls and with friends. the only way to meet a girl here is to invite her for a drink: like in a regular pub.
the rooms
anything what happens here between a girl and a man is their business only as long as both agree. here is were it all happens. the unwritten rule: rooms are only for sessions. it is also not supposed to be used by customers alone to make a nap, although it would be difficult to prevent it. there are maybe no keys with the room allowing the management to record time like in goldentime, still the meter is on when spending time with a girl here. the girl might charge you if you stay for some time with her after sex even if it is only discussing. i dare to do this only with regular girls that will not charge me for that. only once i have been to the room together with a girl for a nap only without being charged for that.
the private areas
each time when i pass near the girls lockers' room, i dream about what might happen behind that door. stupid of course, as they all walk around naked and there is nothing to hide. i guess it's some remaining instinct from the normal world. i have also some fantasies about spending the night in the girls' dormitory in the middle of a pijama party.
there are plenty of private areas like the office near the girl's dormitory i once managed to see from inside when receiving my tombola's price, the kitchen and a lot more we are not aware of. have you ever noticed the stairs going downstairs just in front of the entrance desk?
the safes area
i nearly forgot this area, as i have a selective memory. it brings you back to reality: the girls do it for your money, not because they like you. after having paid, her commitment is supposed to be finished, end of dream. but as she gives a final kiss after, it might suggest that this one at least was for you, not for the money…
salut!
this is the most comprehensive description of world ever!
you have a mind for detail.
my favorite stalking ground is the corridor. i sometimes find a chair in the corridor off the main kontaktzimmer and sit in the shadows for some quiet time while waiting for the one i want.
in the main area watch out for the small pool which is just under the dance platform. i've put a foot into it before not knowing it was there and its edges are sharp.
don't forget the small couch at the foot of the stairs at the lower level. great for people watching or if you can find a girl who wants to just sit, talk and kuscheln, also not bad.
there is almost no couch action though as a rule. this is sorely missing at this club.
there are private rooms off to the side of the sexkino, by way, in case you aren't comfortable doing it out in the open like most of the guys do.
there is also the small room at that lower level with the tanning bed which i have never used.
i have, by the way, taken showers with girls in the shower. i guess it depends on the girl.
the facilities at world are outstanding and i've said before the only thing it doesn't have is a high speed internet connection.
i am grateful that it does not have video games like they do at phg or wildenrath. some women spend all their time at these games ignoring the customers.
what more would a man want or need?
on doit se reunir la prochaine fois que je suis la (si t'es la aussi par hasard). pour l'instant je n'ai aucune idee quand, malheureusement.
a+!
routard,
excellent work! you have done a good job of capturing the essence of this fkk. i have observed a few, but very few, couples using the couches downstairs for some warm-up. one suggestion for the management would be to change the atmosphere in this area to encourage more couch action. maybe they should make a trip to bernds.
i can say that the pool outdoors gets used very little by just a few girls. most swimming the days i was there was done by men cooling off. some are there tanning and will do some action on the chairs. some girls walk through trolling for a man or enroute to the outdoor cafe. there are a number of cabins rep001tered around the grounds.
one excellent feature of world is the quality of girls. granted there may be some that don't ring the bell on beauty but those are sometimes the best in service. one person that is incredible is the famous cordelia. she has beauty, brains and oozes sexual energy. someone to chat with before, after and between sessions is rare, and here she really shines. cordelia would be worth a walk over hot coals. she is not there all the time, but if she is there be sure to experience sex like never before. wow comes to mind when i think about her.
thanks routard for your excellent summary.
is exactly as Routard describes, that there are lots of different areas, corners, crannies, each with its atmosphere and each useful in its way.
I too find the corridor very useful for snaring prey in a nonchalant sort of way :-) And you can abort more easily as well.
The relaxation area downstairs tends to be musically quieter, less smoky and more relaxing if you are there for a long stay. Miss that at Oase, I must say.
I might also add that the tall stools in the middle of the main room (the airport terminal bit), are a great place to observe and scan the scenery from. You can watch the bar, the couches, sometimes even see the interchanges at the lockers. And, from there, it is easier for the ultra-cautious statisticians among us to note how long a particular provider stays in a room on average. I think it's no coincidence that many of the girls like that area too.
Three days at World. I thought I would not post as my horizons are now so limited (re the discussion on the General Info thread. However I have ended up there so often partly because I like the club more than others (Palace, Oase, Cocoon, Freude 39, etc).
One day was sunny. It meant I could have some time in the huge outdoors - I had a quiet time in the grass area about 200 metres from the main building. One reason I like World is that you can take time out. I can spend 14 hours there because I can read, exercise, think, sauna etc. By the way - the Steamroom is now open again. Btw -The small tanning room also has an exercise bike and a crosstrainer.
The downstairs bar was enjoyable - especially if one can speak German or have a bilingual person. The workers go there especially when they want time out on days when the work is not good
Jackyo and Toscana are right about the best way to use the corridors and the bar area - it's easy to watch how girls are working or to make an initial chitchat, then break off, and having made contact later get her to join you for a longer introduction on a sofa. A compliment in passing never does any harm - and never commits you to anything
The lineup is still very good. There has been a small influx of Spanish workers and many of the good longer term workers are there - Olga, Edith, Steffi, Daniela, Cordelia, Denise, Adriana. The Russian contingent seems to be growing. There are about five black girls wiorking there. Betty, Camilla, Sharon are still on holiday
Little couch action -except downstairs. Kino sessions are still fairly frequent. The club apparently organised a live sex show. Perhaps they were trying to encourage the girls. However I can't blame the girls entirely - I saw Alessandra try to do some couch action but the man very primly kept replacing his towel!!
I was interested still in Alessandra (?spelling?) but missed my chance on the one day she was there.
1. Tina, formerly Taisa.
Early 20s.
Piercing by lip and eyebrow
Face – nicely proportioned wideness
Slovak.
Jet black hair very long and straight, usually swept back
Slim, B cups.
Pick up style – smiles
Sex style – GFE
English – limited but good enough for quite complicated discussions
I was mainly occupied with Tina (she miscounted the number of sessions as seven, and was elated when she finally got me to come. She managed this by getting the talking out of the way first - well, until we resumed it...) She was very happy to spend a lot of time with me - probably because she wants to improve her English (normally that would be irony but not this time). She is a very soft and generous person. Her touch is affectionate and warm. I am selling her short as I do not want to broadcast things about her which she might not wish to be told everywhere- all I can say is try her, she will not shortchange you. However, if you want pornstar sex then try Daniela
2. Anna Marie was not there - I missed her. I would have had a long chat with her if she had been there (sex is forbidden - but then that is nothing new between us... sometimes the stories are weird)
3. Liza from Lettland is back! - I quote a report I wrote about her nearly a year ago
"I said to Liza from Lettland (about whom I previously posted) that I would write about how wonderful I found her. Slim, small breasts, shock of wavy black hair, a slightly wide featured face, and probably late 20s. I say without reservation that she is the most tender and loving worker I have come across. I have never used the phrase GFE but I guess that is the category she comes within. She is deeply passionate in a gentle unassuming way. I spent many sessions with her and did not tire spending time with her simply because she is so honest, affectionate, and intrinsically tactile.
She has an integrity which is very rare. She did not try to upsell or lengthen the session, and she expressed concern that I was spending too much money on her. In fact she frequently went over the time. She was also a model of tact and sensitivity. I do not know if she would suit everybody but her attitude and lovely personality left me feeling optimistic and happy with the world
She is also quite clear about professional boundaries - she does not produce sad stories or try to enlist sympathy or create a relationship
Her English is limited but her German quite good"
So with Tina and Liza there I have two of my three favourite workers ever. (I cannot include ones like Olga who will not go with me, or Cordelia as it might be said I am biased - but perhaps Fly Bob's praise of Cordelia can stand :D)
Btw - i am back from 1 to 3 October. Anybody else?
FKK world is a large club, and each area seems to have it’s own atmosphere with it’s own behaviour code.
Entrance and locker’s room
This is the transition area between the normal world and the fantasy world, the only place were naked people and dressed people share the same space together. Another nice thing is the going home ritual, when the dressed girls walk out of the place at 4 or 5 o’clock late at night/early in the morning. Was much better one and a half year ago, when all the girls had to walk this way.
ShowerThis is not the best part of the club, there is no atmosphere here, as it’s for customers only. I miss the atmosphere of Goldentime’s mixed shower. There is no better way to start in a good mood than taking a first shower together with a few naked girls.Mixed shower? This was the case in the first year at FKKW, I remember especially the polish girls (Lucy, Annette, Lila) taking their shower amongst the men and shaving their body there.
The main area
In fact, the only main area that has definitely a special vibe is the Bernd’s one. One of the reason is that everybody, girls and men share the same large U shaped sofa, allowing to communicate without commitment. Another reason is the unique coach action of this club. Another main reason is the small size of this place and the heavy alcohol consumption: beer, cognac, gin, rum, whiskey .... included in the 70 euros for the club gate. If you would get the same type and amount of high percentage alcoholic drinks in the Wintergarten at FKKW (free of any additional charge), it would turn instantaneously into one of the hottest places on earth and you would forget about the other place. Attempts to move in this direction can sometimes be seen at FKK-World’s parties.
The dining room
Girls eating here are taking a break. They agree to socialize however, else they would sit down at the two tables behind the wall, a small area between the locker’s room and the main dining room. This is the most mysterious area for me, I never dared to enter it. It seems forbidden to customers. The main dining room on the contrary is a nice socializing area, it allows engaging conversation with girls or other customers and without commitment. No, the small area between the locker’s room and the main dining room is not a forbidden area for men. I had many talks with girls there, e.g. Camilla, Edit, Gloria, Lana, Denise, Banny. But it is true that this area is mainly for the girls taking a break without any stress.
The corridor
There is some kind of rough atmosphere in the corridor between the upper and lower floor. Girls tend to believe that a walking man is a hunting man. They take advantage of the narrow space to grab their prey. Some men forget that they are the prey in this fantast world and have a kind of natural reflex to grab too if any female is too close. This wild atmosphere doesn’t make things easy for anyone simply trying to go from one floor to another.Some woman even scream and curse at you, depending on the amount of stress at work they experience, their alcohol level and how much they like or dislike you that day/week/month!!
The Outdoor area
World has by far the most impressive outdoor garden with even a large swimmingpool and a new Beach Area for the summer. ....... For some reason, I have never been to World during the summer, and can’t comment about the atmosphere and behaviour code in the outdoor garden.The best thing for me in FKK-World. No special behaviour code, you can do almost anything you like, get sucked and fucked everywhere while the sun or the moon shines, on the lawn, behind the bushes, under the trees, on the chairs at the pool, in or in front of the small garden houses, ....... well, of course, you should not disturb those people nearby the grill station eating their Bratwurst or steak!
At World-parties in summer, highly erotic scenes can happen here. I especially remember a very hot brasilian night (40 degrees during the day, up to 35 degrees centigrade in the night!) two years ago on August, 9th. The area around the pool was overcrowded with people, a brazilian Samba group with beautiful dancers was performing at the pool and before that and later on, lots of the FKKW-girls were dancing at the pool with customers!
The downstairs bar
This area has an atmosphere of it’s own, as alcoholic drinks are available for extra charge. Girls come here to party together and only regular customers seem to be allowed to partake with them. Girls seem to forget here that they are working, it’s the place were they have fun.Don’t forget, quite a few girls there get payed by potent regular customers for several hour packages including the time they spend with them at the downstairs bar !
fkk world is a large club, and each area seems to have it’s own atmosphere with it’s own behaviour code.routard, you forgot one important category of rooms!
the toilet rooms
at least after drinking some beers or apfelschorle, you are in an urge to know where those rooms are and to find them!
as far as i remember, there are four main areas where you will find them.
- if you enter the building, at the end of the corridor on the left hand side of the reception are two toilets for men, you have to pass through a curtain first to enter this corridor.
- exactly opposite to the upstairs bar between the so called vip rooms is one toilet for men too.
- downstairs the stairs where this one couch is, on the left hand side before you enter the two rooms with curtains. opposite to the toilet you'll find a shower on the right hand side.
- in the small corridor leading from the inside pool area to the downstairs bar you find a shower and a toilet.
atmosphere usually is rather cool and functional. normal behavior code: don't [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on the floor. wash your hands and penis after action and/or take a shower before meeting the next girl!
but: i've heard some men prefer these rooms for special type of sex sessions including liquid / solid materials exchange.
Thanks to all you recent posters who take time and effort to give us a window into World. Many of us have a "spiritual connection" with the place but we are unable to visit so often as some of you. Therefor your posts much appreciated...:)
But can anyone really explain the disappearing couch action at World? I remember even a year or 18 months ago, World was quite decent for couch aciton, both upstairs and down. But now couch action at World sounds like an endangered speicies. Why? What the hell happened to this place? Where is the old FKK ethic...?
Any thoughts on this appreciaited...
Ortos
Ortos - the answer is very simple. There was a huge influx of young eastern europeans to the extent that they dominated the place and the couch action gradually declined under their disapproving gaze. The paradox is that these girls, despite being prostitutes are sometimes extremely judgemental and moralistic. They consider anything other than a fuck in a room as perverted. Many girls for example really disliked Viagra (Sara) because she was willing to have sex anywhere (on one memorable occasion she and I were on a couch as Cordelia walked by and Viagra exchanged cheerful banter with her (with me trying to join in from under her ample breasts - this is the sort of thing whcih is missing - FUN)
And when new young girls come they are often inexperienced and insecure so they laugh at anything and anyone different. usually those ones don't last long - there is however a constant supply of these anonymous annas. On my last visit I saw two giggling behind another worker's back - between the two of them they had a grand total of a half hour room all day so they had plenty of time to be let their mean spirits run
I think this club also suffers from the layout which means that men and girls can spend hours just watching and not participating. Some of the men are extremely offputting - there are a few who contribute to the roemerfoum who give off really bad vibes and the girls know they will post something nasty. this is all a disincentive for a girl to perform in front of their snootynoses - especially when we know some men will make up lies about any girl they think is an easy target.
The recent broadening of the service provider mix has helped a bit, but not much since the place has developed its ethos. For me this is the only major problem with this club. I have seen no public sex for over a year
I think a visit by Catalyst might indeed be a catalyst to improve the situation
Banny sure does her part of keeping the couch action going and Daniela will have sex with you just about wherever you feel like it. I think Julia might be game for it as well. Other than that, couch action is hard to come by at World.
Some time ago I had a fun foursome with Cordelia (MMMF) and we actually entertained the idea of doing it out in the open or in the Kino.
Chivaz
Nick The G
09-27-06, 23:38
But can anyone really explain the disappearing couch action at World?
OrtosOne facet could be, that in summer, the sterile and bright wintergarten really is the last place to take some public action. Watch out for changes with the darker autumn and winter seasons to come.
Nevertheless, I've seen quite some public action this year downstairs in the living room.
One week ago, Jeanette was having some public action with a man on the table dance platform, she tried her best, but the guy didn`t succeed with an erection and so after some time they disappeared heading for a room.
Somebody told me, that three weeks ago, Daniela and Jeanette together did several public performances on the table dance platform with some guys.
Ortos - the answer is very simple. There was a huge influx of young eastern europeans to the extent that they dominated the place and the couch action gradually declined under their disapproving gaze. The paradox is that these girls, despite being prostitutes are sometimes extremely judgemental and moralistic. .....since the place has developed its ethosIt was nice to meet you and Cordelia on Sunday, thanks again for the glas of Sekt downstairs at the Kellerbar.
My opinon: many men seem to enjoy more looking at public action then performing themselves in front of others! This is the men's ethos!
Maybe the Wintergarten in FKK-World is too big a place to create an appropriate atmosphere for live action. Smaller places, like the living room downstairs at FKK-World or the Kellerbar in Bernd's Schieferhof, are much better suited for things like this. I would say, it's a big difference if 5-15 people in a smaller place or 50-150 people in a large place are watching what you do.
Shiatsu, therefore I think, you cannot blame it on the ”new” girls only and their moral!
And don't forget:
Not every woman can be compared with Viagra or Daniela at FKK-World or Brandy at Bernd's Schieferhof for example.
Several times I had the pleasure with these women and though they are known for public action, they are of quite different origin and are quite different personalities.
I know Viagra already from her time in ”Atlantis”, there she had a long training in public action before she came to FKK-World. If I remember correctly, there they called her one of the ”Sauna Monsters”. Besides the sex I experienced her as a very warmhearted and caring woman.
Daniela they call a nymphomanic, o.k., incredible sexual energy and seemingly never ending power. I don't agree, but at least I would say in the FKK-World environment most of the time she acts like a narcissistic ”drama queen”, she likes to/needs to draw attention and ego-boost from anyone whenever and whereever possible. It's not only the money she needs from you!
Brandy is a giving person, incredibly pure sexual energy without any limits, anything spanning from soft to hard, challenging you to go to extremes in sexual action. And she openly confesses, she likes and enjoys sex equally with women and/or men. Uaah! She's happy if you virtually crawl out of the room because you cannot stand on your legs anymore after a session with her.
Nick
Nice to hear from you again - especially with the benefit of the Sekt which had been given to Cordelia. You will be pleased to know that I managed to remedy my missed opportunity with Tina (taisa) eventually. I enjoyed your story - the moral for the forum of your story (which we need not repeat) is that a good compliment to a girl is always welcome, if phrased and timed right.
I agree - the size of the rooms, with a surrounding audience, can be very offputting. And many men do not want to be seen in public. (Unlike the man who goes naked and plays along with a chosen girl in the main room (Wintergarten) - however he is a bit crazy and doesn't do real sex in public)
Many girls are much more relaxed about couch action downstairs, I find. Much more private.
I have seen no public sex for over a year
Just on a positive note then, in the Summer I saw public sex twice in the Relaxzone, so hopefully things are changing.
World is a little straightlaced, I have had the Kino refused to me once.
One interesting thing though, is that Sonya (Manuella the pole dancer's friend) had sex with me in the grass in the lower field once, and both she and robotic Julia had no problem in the Kino, and both were part of the Rumanian mafia as I remember, so they weren't all bad. Then there was Daniella of course!
Just to diversify, on the whole though, I find the Rumanians a funny mixed bunch, probably because most are doing the job for purely financial reasons and really not cut out for FKK work. I am sure that will inflame some replies from fans of rumanian girls, but I am learning that the service "in General" from those that remember what "in general" means, from Rumanians is more restricted and more straightforward. This is true in GT also, and I also find this in
Dubai, where the Rumanians always ask top top prices and minimum time. Good luck to them if they can do it.
... is near impossible to duplicate in a large club.
This, I think, is the reason why Bernds athmosphere is as it is and World will never be close in terms of coziness or uninhibitedness.
True, there is some of sex which takes place in World's Sexkino but it is dark it may as well be taking place privately.
Talk about two extremes in club styles. These two clubs are nearly polar opposites.
Other than the PTs and excluding Pauschalpreisparties, the only club I can think of where sex routinely takes place out in the open (or nearly out in the open) is Blue Note which is again another small club.
Its quite amusing there because the owner is the very properly dressed woman in her sixties who you would never picture ever presiding over this wanton debauchery taking place around her.
No, she does not participate. Or better, yet, thank goodness she doesn't participate.
It (Blue Note) has the look and feel of a Familienbetrieb.
It does not take place out in the open in the Golden Triangle clubs either, the other destination clubs in NRW.
I have had it out in the open with others watching at Babylon, Wiago and the Red Carpets too but it isn't standard practice there.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]...
It does not take place out in the open in the Golden Triangle clubs either, the other destination clubs in NRW.
There's lots of public sex in the kino at Golden Time as well as out in the garden during nice weather. Dedalus has performed on that stage I believe.
beffen
...Dedalus has performed on that stage I believe...
beffen And if I remember right, he got a standing ovation from the football crowd. Yours truly picked up the same girl (Polish Melissa) plus another one (German Samantha) few minutes later and did a threesome out in the open as well, although a little bit more secluded. I gave the girls a standing ovation.
IMO, you can get public sex at almost any club as long as you are ready to be the performer.
Chivaz
And if I remember right, he got a standing ovation from the football crowd.
Chivaz
A standing O. might be a little bit of an exaggeration, but Melissa and I (mostly her) did manage to avert the attention of a bunch of German dudes who should have been checking out the WM consolation game.
One guy told Melissa as we were doing our after-sex walk past the throngs of football watchers, that she was much more entertaining to watch than the football.
Now Daniela and I once started a session on that little dance-stage but I carried her into the Kino for the final consummation. She was in one of those moods that night and I was a sitting duck.
Cheers,
Dedalus, closet exhibitionist
imo, you can get public sex at almost any club as long as you are ready to be the performer.
in the early days of world, there used to be a bed right there in the main kontaktzimmer with a kind of canopy (my memory is kind of fuzzy right now as this goes back to 03).
i never saw it get any use at all.
at la folie, there was a bed in the outside kontaktzimmer too and if memory serves me right, there was discount on the session if you were willing to do it outside rather than in one of the private rooms.
it takes two elements to make this happen: a) customers who are willing, b) girls who are willing.
some of us customers will, some will not.
i used to think it was a daring thing to have sex in full view but now i don't think so any more having been to pts. the thing about pts though is that everyone to the left and to right of you is doing in full view so it isn't a big deal.
if you put yourself in the girls shoes, she has to go through a transformation to get to break down these inhibitions.
for one, if she is one of those girls who is entirely new to this (a former amateur), she's already has had to get used to walking around without any clothes on. if she's foreign, she's in a strange land dealing with a strange language. she has also had to get used to having sex with strange men. to her, she's already made a huge adjustment in attitude and to take it one more step in direction of public sex would be just too much.
when the team of women is experiencing a lot of turnover and consists mostly of former amateurs, you are mostly probably dealing with these kinds of women.
the thing is though: if you can get a couple of them to do it in full view, that exerts peer pressure on the rest of them and they all start to think its normal and part of the standard service offering.
i don't know who does the indoctrination for these women but it probably was in several stages. that person or persons has to take them one more step.
going back to bernds again, the women here long gave up their amateur status. they didn't become hardened professionals though, the kind who want to rush you out the door after a session. there is very little turnover and it has the most stable lineup in the business. it is a testament as well being able to maintain a club culture going for the 25 years it has been around. this is what makes bernds unique.
its a lot easier to create a culture like this in a small club and sustain it. a lot harder in a larger club like world to do the same.
world is a little straightlaced...
just to diversify, on the whole though, i find the rumanians a funny mixed bunch, probably because most are doing the job for purely financial reasons and really not cut out for fkk work. i am sure that will inflame some replies from fans of rumanian girls, but i am learning that the service "in general" from those that remember what "in general" means, from rumanians is more restricted and more straightforward. this is true in gt also, and i also find this in dubai, where the rumanians always ask top top prices and minimum time. good luck to them if they can do it.
if world is straightlaced it could be because as mike de h says, some of the women (particularly the rumanians - i agree with this statement) are not cut out for fkk work and they are more converted amateurs who have not been doing it for a long time and only have intentions of doing it for as long as they need to to reach some economic goal.
their motivation is less about having fun and exploring their sexuality.
My list would go something like this:
Hungarians
Czechs
Poles
with a special catagory for Russians who can scribble all over my slate to their hearts content.
Just to diversify, on the whole though, I find the Rumanians a funny mixed bunch, probably because most are doing the job for purely financial reasons and really not cut out for FKK work. I am sure that will inflame some replies from fans of rumanian girls, but I am learning that the service "in General" from those that remember what "in general" means, from Rumanians is more restricted and more straightforward. This is true in GT also, and I also find this in
Dubai, where the Rumanians always ask top top prices and minimum time. Good luck to them if they can do it.
Hey Mike,
I certainly will not flame you for your perspective, but I do disagree.
Firstly, most girls, regardless of their nationality are doing this gig purely for financial reasons.
Second, There are tons of Polish, Hungarian, Czech, German girls who run around the clubs with tight lips and a frown, or with a pretty superficial sales-woman's veneer. Neither is a dead-solid indicator as to how they will perform in the room. 90 % of the German girls that I have been with are happy, friendly and loquacious outside the rooms and total sexual duds and rush-jobs within them. I really do like Jacqueline and many of the other Polish regulars at World, but they can be pretty grumpy and dour at times, especially after that 12th vodka and Red Bull.
The Romanians have a tough reputation that I have never really understood. I certainly admit that there are some weeds in that garden but there are some pretty decent flowers as well:
Daniela (both the World and the Palace version.)
Georgia (ex World/Palace. Now commuting back and forth between GT and Cola)
Anka (OK, I have not had the guts to book a session with her, but if my buddy Chivaz is convinced, then so am I)
Ramona (ex World. Gone but not forgotten)
Alicia (Also half Spanish. Sells herself as being from Spain, but....)
Julia (Ex World, now at Palace. A little cold but dynamic and wild in the sack)
The list actually goes on and on.
If I had to pick one nationality that has never failed me, then it would have to be Lithuanian, followed closely by Bulgarian.
Cheers,
Dedalus, UN member wannabe
I have just received a comment on a post I wrote. From a working girl. Reminds me that some of them read the posts and will form opinions about us from the posts
So, just for the record, I have always admired the workers at World, regardless of nationality. How they have the guts to work 14 hours a day in such a pressured atmosphere I do not know. Whatever their nationality, so long as they don't cheat. I admire them because they have extracted themselves from a life on a starvation wage, feeding economic need for exploited labour. The ones who are not cut out for it soon disappear. I am astonished at the way they manage to treat most men, however thin, fat, strange etc with a level of professionalism (one comment workers make about things is to say "I am professional".
PS (I am not naive about the level of, shall be say, profitsharing with "business partners")
with a special catagory for Russians who can scribble all over my slate to their hearts content.
Is that what the lovely Olga is doing with that tongue of hers?
Cheers,
Dedalus
I visited World twice last week and in total I have been there 4 times now.
One thing I did notice is that Jacqueline (Polish---large Tattoo down spine) sits in the Pub downstairs all day in the corner with her friends(?) and for the four times I was there I did not see her session with anyone! I guess it really is not of my business wither she choses to go with anyone or not but I suppose she has reach her goal and is taking it easy.
She did seem to be more pleasant this time around as opposed to last time I was there.
I did want to try a session with her but it seemed like she was having a good time sitting in the corner chatting with her friends.
By the way is Anna from Poland and Natascha from Frankfurt ( blond tall, blue eyes and tattoo above bum) still at World? TIA
There is a Natascha there who fits the description
The downstairs bar does not open until 7 in the evening. Sometimes girls will spend a long time down there if the business is very slow as it is the only place where they can relax. Certainly some days last week were incredibly slow. As for sessions - jaqueline seems to do fine
There are tons of Polish, Hungarian, Czech, German girls who run around the clubs with tight lips and a frown, or with a pretty superficial sales-woman's veneer. Neither is a dead-solid indicator as to how they will perform in the room. 90 % of the German girls that I have been with are happy, friendly and loquacious outside the rooms and total sexual duds and rush-jobs within them.
I do agree Germans are worse, I always avaoid German Girls unless recommended now (some are fantastic). There is no clear cut line about nationality and service. You mention Daniella and Julia, and to be fair mate, so did I, as well as Sonia.
I did not mean to single out Rumanians as the worst and so please don't misunderstand. I mentioned Rumanians as a follow on from the fact that someone mentioned that a certain group of Girls (Manuella's gang I presume) were a little on the prudish side about open sex.
I have always had good service from Lithuanians and Latvians and lesser extent Poles and Hungarians. The Stani's from Russia have always been excellent service, but apart from the few Rumanians mentioned, they are all "b" listers. not bad by any means, just not great.
Nick The G
09-29-06, 21:03
In the early days of World, there used to be a bed right there in the main Kontaktzimmer with a kind of canopy....... I never saw it get any use at all. Well, true, wasn't used much.
I think this bed now is downstairs in the last room on the right hand side of the corrridor before you enter the indoor pool area.
If you put yourself in the girls shoes, she has to go through a transformation to get to break down these inhibitions. For one, if she is one of those girls who is entirely new to this (a former amateur), she's already has had to get used to walking around without any clothes on.Remember, you are in a so called FKK-Club. And what do you see? 99% of the men, even ”professional” FKK-Club visitors who have been there over years run around ”dressed” ridiciously with 1 or 2 towels! Why? Do we men need to go through some transformation to get to break down our inhibitions?
I don't know who does the indoctrination for these women but it probably was in several stages. That person or persons has to take them one more step.Why? Firstly, I think there is no such person. Secondly, personally I think it's a sign of self respect and mental sanity and a very healthy attitude of most (very) young prostitutes to draw a line and not to perform in public. In my opinion they show the right behaviour and they have my respect!
The male club visitors behaviour with regards to PaySex develops in several stages too and in the end he expects/demands everything anywhere. Who was indoctrinating him?
who have not been doing it for a long time and only have intentions of doing it for as long as they need to to reach some economic goal. Their motivation is less about having fun and exploring their sexuality.It's the money they came for and that's what most of them want! Driven by circumstances and their often naiv believe systems, they readily accept miserable conditions with the hope to earn money as much and as fast as they can get it.
Ask yourself: who - female or male - really needs a FKK-Club to ”explore his sexuality”? This is like living in a dark tunnel to explore the light!
Sexuality is much, much more than a given penis penetrating a given hole and fucking bodies sweating in action.
I would say: if you want to avoid real sexuality with the accompanying feelings and binding to a person, the ”chemical reactions” and the rising energy inside your psyche and the changes this induces, then you need to go to a brothel or an FKK-Club to spend or earn money (and you need to do it again and again, you need more and more!). Why, because it doesn't feed your primary needs. It's like drinking salty water when you are thirsty.
Nothing bad about this, life gives us what we want ! We can fuck (up) our whole life like (with) this, but we should not forget about it!
Can you activate your private messaging? Thanks.
Sexuality is much, much more than a given penis penetrating a given hole and fucking bodies sweating in action.
Mind you, sounds like a damned good start to me!
Mind you, sounds like a damned good start to me!
You always were a silly ole' romantic there, Mike ;-)))
Cheers,
Dedalus
Nick The G
10-01-06, 23:28
But can anyone really explain the disappearing couch action at World? I remember even a year or 18 months ago, World was quite decent for couch aciton, both upstairs and down. But now couch action at World sounds like an endangered speicies. Why? What the hell happened to this place? Where is the old FKK ethic...?OrtosGuys, on saturday, you would'nt have trusted your eyes, you've missed a very, very special day at the FKK-WORLD.
Saturday afternoon. Not many men around alltogether, low action. I had a lovely chat with Cordellia and other ladies during my extended breakfast.
All of a sudden, about 25 new girls entered as a group the place late in the afternoon, flooded the wintergarten and shattered the foundations and ”common rules”.
In parallel about 10 romanian girls at the same time were sitting in one corner and drinking lots of champaign celebrating the birthday of a well known SW.
This turned the wintergarten into an almost orgiastic scenery. Unbelievable scenes, on the floor, on the table dance platform, several girls giving blowjobs to men at the bar, another troop of new girls went downstairs and attacked men in the whirlpool giving blow-jobs, lots of couch action everywhere.
Seemed like something had come to WORLD and driven them all to madness.
Several of the established SW at WORLD left the place after some time being frustrated or even angry.
Weird scenes inside the goldmine: reappearing live action...
Just keep my eyes on the road and my hands upon the wheel...!
Niko,
Now that is what I like to hear! Stories of wild debauchery both up and downstairs? This is good news. It's good too to hear the "old guard" got a bit rattled by the new Romanian arrivals whose wild overt behaviour changed the vibe of the place. Funny, in the past I've found these groups of new Romanian arrivals are usually a bit prudish and conservative when they first start working and it takes a few days/weeks for them to develop the proper wild FKK attitude... So maybe these girls were well briefed before entering...?
Love to hear Shiatsu's and/or Cordelia's take on this...
Ortos
With bucket-loads of "Neid" I read about the "Invasion der jungen Mädchen" on the Roemerforum and was kicking myself that I could not breakaway to go have a taste of the action on Saturday and also to celebrate a certain Romanian's Geburtstag. I would have given her a nice present ;-))))
Ortos,
I agree!!! I would love to hear the S & C perspective from this past weekend.
Thanks to Nick for the word!!!
Cheers,
Dedalus
[Several of the established SW at WORLD left the place after some time being frustrated or even angry.[/QUOTE]Why would the established SW's be angry? Where the Romainians giving freebies?
By the way I'm assuming sw = Sp?
Hi Folks,
would like to introduce me to this forum with my first post - I was originally active in the Hurenforum, changed later to the Römerforum but find this board sometimes a bit too restrictive, slow and overly pc for my taste.
Regarding FKKW - yes, they seemed to have gathered a new group of rather young Romanians (about a dozen, plus some other girls) who arrived on Saturday. I was there on Sunday, and enjoyed some astonishing public action in the "terminal" (aka wintergarten), plus a nice lesbo show (with strap-on dildos, penetration and all that) plus a small Disco party later on. Needless to say that this really gives a long missed push and definitely adds some spice to the FKKW. Now if only the guests would not sometimes be so restricted.
Some of the new girls are pretty attractive (although there is no absolute stunner), and some are quite good dancers - obviously no newbies to the club and/or gogo scene despite of their young age.
FKKW is currently my favourite club, having enjoyed a string of really great performances there over the last weeks. With the new addition, I'm quite sure that this lucky streak can be continued for a while... ;)
Have fun.
Cheers,
Fritz
I don't know who does the indoctrination for these women but it probably was in several stages. That person or persons has to take them one more step.
Why? Firstly, I think there is no such person.
The "Milieu" (as the Germans put it) is involved in this activity. (I get a kick by the way from how the Germans like to use French words such as "Engagement" and "Trottoir".. )
"Der Begriff Milieu [miˈljøː] (französisch - "Mitte, Mittel") bezeichnet eine charakteristische Konfiguration von Umgebungsfaktoren, in die ein Untersuchungsgegenstand oder ein beschriebenes Ding eingebettet ist und die für ein Verständnis seiner Existenz relevant sind. Der Begriff des Milieus ist als Terminus in den Sozial- und Naturwissenschaften (v.a. Chemie und Biologie) anzutreffen.
... in der Umgangssprache oft auch Personenkreise (begrenzte Teile der sozialen Umwelt der jeweiligen Einzelpersonen), die mit Prostitution, Kriminalität o. ä. in Verbindung gebracht werden"
Better to stop here and not say much more beyond this on this Forum.
Prostitution, Crime and Drugs have always come hand in hand - this has been true for centuries, and there is little doubt that it has changed recently.
Modern FKK clubs in central Europe are just so much better to conceive the mechanism of the trade, and wrap them up in a user-friendly surface and addiction-inspiring environment.
Hi Folks,
would like to introduce me to this forum with my first post - I was originally active in the Hurenforum, changed later to the Römerforum but find this board sometimes a bit too restrictive, slow and overly pc for my taste.
Regarding FKKW - yes, they seemed to have gathered a new group of rather young Romanians (about a dozen, plus some other girls) who arrived on Saturday. I was there on Sunday, and enjoyed some astonishing public action in the "terminal" (aka wintergarten), plus a nice lesbo show (with strap-on dildos, penetration and all that) plus a small Disco party later on. Needless to say that this really gives a long missed push and definitely adds some spice to the FKKW. Now if only the guests would not sometimes be so restricted.
Some of the new girls are pretty attractive (although there is no absolute stunner), and some are quite good dancers - obviously no newbies to the club and/or gogo scene despite of their young age.
FKKW is currently my favourite club, having enjoyed a string of really great performances there over the last weeks. With the new addition, I'm quite sure that this lucky streak can be continued for a while... ;)
Have fun.
Cheers,
Fritz
Fritz,
Let me be among the first to extend you a warm and heart-felt welcome to this Forum. We always appreciate new members, esp. ones who post their experiences. And several of us have great respect for those native German-speakers who write in English in such a clear and articulate manner. Bravo!
So thanks for your comments about this most interesting (and badly needed) new element at World. As I conjectured several posts below, I wondered whether "couch action" at World, once so prevelant, was now an endangered species. So nice to here that in one giant wave of new young (mostly Romanian?) arrivals this is a thing of the past. A few questions:
--Besides Romanian girls, what other nationalities/ethnicities are represented in this new wave? Any new Bulgarians for example?
--You say many are fairly attractive, but no specific stunner: Any specific girls you would single out for thier looks/performance as above-average? Did you sample any of these new girls yourself?
--How do you perceive the reaction of some of the "more restricted" old guard girls to these newbies? Is it like cats raising their hair and hissing?
Anyway, it is good news, esp. if it lasts. I can't help thinking that maybe the mangement at World caught wind of the general male-guest dissatisfaction with the prevailing "no couch action" vibe at World and specifically imported this new group (and coached them) to deal with this problem.
Ortos
indeed- you bring great news- i love turnover and i love [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) so world- my favorite club, sounds like the place to be, the place to "have fun". now, we all have to do our part and keep these girls busy and happy.
it's great to have your regular guests' perspective and i look forward to perhaps meeting you soon.
beffen
I will do a proper report soon, but have just spent three days with the new girls there.
You all probably remember I have always been a fan of this club and recommended it highly when others have been damning it in the past.
On the subject of the new batch of girls imported to the club
If you want to get 10 minutes for 50 euros then many of the new girls are the ones for you. I timed about 25 sessions and almost all of them were under 20 minutes and mostly around 10/15. As for quality - I tried one and the session was mediocre. I asked other men and was told of five poor sessions and two acceptable ones. One of the girls told me that World was a "puff" i.e. a brothel - which is true -but I think it should also be much more. A man told me that they all arrived all together in a bus, so presumably someone organised it
So - it's up to us all to make sure the new girls don't ruin the normally good service enjoyed at World. The new girls put on a show each night - but a show is exactly that and does not mean they provide good service. If I sound a bit assertive it's not because I had a bad time:I had a great time with some of the not new girls- just hate to see girls rip men off (or vice versa). For all newbie - remember 50 euros buys you 30 minutes
Several men said to me that they found the place much less comfortable than previously
No doubt it will all settle down soon - the only question is - what will the end result be.
Hey Shiatsu,
Thanks for your perspective. I am quite anxious to read more of what you have to say. On the Roemerforum those guys are singing nothing but Glory Hallelujah in unison about World and the new influx. And those guys are bloody critical of most things. Some of those cats would turn down Scarlett Johansson for having an overbite.
The dichotomy is puzzling.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I would turn down Scarlett Johannsen any day....she is the single ugliest celebrity without a last name of Osbourne I have ever seen, what makes her attractive?
Her fat ass?
Her pasty skin?
Her horrendous haircolour?
Her pig nose?
Her cellulite ridden thighs?
I am sorry, but she looks like she smells of cabbage!
But I guess for a lot of people gigantic tits make up for ugliness in every other aspect!
Hi guys,
I am also a bit suprised. I've been reading glowing reports on the German forums about the new girls and fun atmosphere. There are quite a few of them identified from other clubs such as Palace and GT so it seems someone went around with some offers.
Shiatsu, I wander if you are experiencing the kind of the same thing as when a gang arrives at a party and shakes things up, many are happy, but those who have gotten used to the calm things around may get a bit upset.
Chivaz
But I guess for a lot of people gigantic tits make up for ugliness in every other aspect!
Hey Peter,
Does she really have big 'uns? I haven't been able to get past her mind
yet ;-)))
The "cabbage" zing is one I will have remember.
Cheers,
Dedalus, who will admit to liking his women a little on the trashy side.
I would turn down Scarlett Johannsen any day....she is the single ugliest celebrity without a last name of Osbourne I have ever seen, what makes her attractive?
Well, I fell in love with her in "lost in translation" because I have been there many times.
here: http://www.scarlettjohansson.org/pictures/
looks OK to me
Well, I fell in love with her in "lost in translation" because I have been there many times.
here: http://www.scarlettjohansson.org/pictures/
looks OK to me
I'll admit that she is not Rita Hayworth or Sophie Marceau, but she is quite a few rungs higher than Julia Roberts IMHO.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Well, it looks like I'm going to have to see for myself. I bet it's going to be one hell of an Oktoberfest party.
And if Scarlet is there, I'm going to fuck the shit out of her. Twice.
beffen
--Besides Romanian girls, what other nationalities/ethnicities are represented in this new wave? Any new Bulgarians for example?
None of the new girls I met claimed to be Bulgarian - and what difference does it make?
--You say many are fairly attractive, but no specific stunner: Any specific girls you would single out for thier looks/performance as above-average? Did you sample any of these new girls yourself?Two girls - A petite blonde with two braids and nice tits, and a brunette named Anda. The later girl has quite some self-assurance and attitude. She just walked away with a 'ciao' after I didn't immediately agreed to her suggestions (rather: commands?) ;)
So, no personal experiences with the two best looking new girls so far, but good experience with Esmeralda, and a rather disappointing session with Christina.
To be honest, I don't really bother. There are enough other girls with satisfying performances in the sack so that I'm enjoying the new Romanian bunch just for their live show and public performances.
--How do you perceive the reaction of some of the "more restricted" old guard girls to these newbies? Is it like cats raising their hair and hissing?He he - you'd love to see that, don't you? ;)
Well - not in the public. But many of the 'regular' girls I spoke to were not too happy about the new competition. Others were not so concerned, so it depends.
Anyway, it is good news, esp. if it lasts. I can't help thinking that maybe the mangement at World caught wind of the general male-guest dissatisfaction with the prevailing "no couch action" vibe at World and specifically imported this new group (and coached them) to deal with this problem.OrtosThis is exactly my impression. The shows happen on time, and the new girls are expected to participate. Choreography and sequence of the shows are pretty similar.
Thanks for your comments. The club is always trying new things to improve. That is one reason I have always liked the club - it is a really good feature. My note was about just one aspect - not a general comment on the club. bringing in the new girls has successfully helped remove the deserted atmosphere in the main room
I am not surprised that there are good reports on the roemer. The new girls create a lively atmosphere which is very in your face. I quite happily spent half hour watching them do a show.
Remember that I was there for about 40 hours, so had plenty of time to get over the initial wow factor.
Chivaz - I am surprised by your interpretation of my psychology. You could not be more wrong. No way am I upset at there being change. I have been going to World since it has opened and expect a turnover of over 50% each month.
I just thought the key point is that if you go with a girl at World you now need to make more sure than ever you are not shoved out of the room in 10 minutes. I am reporting on a fact which I think goes to the heart of service quality - I was making no subjective judgements (e.g. whether or not the party idea is a good or bad one - that is a matter of taste, and if the club wants to change the style then that is up to the club)
It will settle down and the club style will become clear after this week's party. Everybody can make up their own mind. But surely in the meantime it is useful for me to report on the room timings I saw
Two girls - A petite blonde with two braids and nice tits, and a brunette named Anda. The later girl has quite some self-assurance and attitude. She just walked away with a 'ciao' after I didn't immediately agreed to her suggestions (rather: commands?) ;)
So, no personal experiences with the two best looking new girls so far, but good experience with Esmeralda, and a rather disappointing session with Christina.
To be honest, I don't really bother. There are enough other girls with satisfying performances in the sack so that I'm enjoying the new Romanian bunch just for their live show and public performances.
Well - not in the public. But many of the 'regular' girls I spoke to were not too happy about the new competition. Others were not so concerned, so it depends.
This is exactly my impression. The shows happen on time, and the new girls are expected to participate. Choreography and sequence of the shows are pretty similar.
I think you have summed it up well. Five girls tried to pick me up and were extremely pushy. Basically ordering me in to a room and when I indicated I wanted to talk for a while (by which I mean a couple of minutes) they totally blanked me and walked off.
The show is the same every night. Lasts about 15 minutes each time. black strap on dildo, simulated lesbian sex, and if possible, sex with a male guest (NB - if you do this you are expected to go to a room and pay)
I am not saying all the new girls are pushy - just most of the ones who came near me. Some will be good - one or two were already trying to settle into a more human approach. Some of them however had very steely eyes
Shiatsu,
I agree with your impressions. I spent about 20+ hours in the FKKW since the bus with the new girls arrived. If you have seen the show several times, you notice that they are rather similar and schematic.
The new girls are of a different flavour than most of the regular ladies: all rather young (some just barely of legal age), but not shy at all, and quite a few unrestrained enough to perform in the public like porn starlets. Where they might have picked up all this in their your age is a different matter. And there seems to be little depth or 'soul' in the performance. It's rather difficult to just sit done with them on the couch and chat or laugh for a while, and presumably much more difficult to make one of these girls come.
These are just my first impressions and it might be a bit unfair since I have not met all of them yet. Hopefully, as you said, they might settle into a more human approach over time.
I would turn down Scarlett Johannsen any day....she is the single ugliest celebrity without a last name of Osbourne I have ever seen, what makes her attractive?
Her fat ass?
Her pasty skin?
Her horrendous haircolour?
Her pig nose?
Her cellulite ridden thighs?
I am sorry, but she looks like she smells of cabbage!
But I guess for a lot of people gigantic tits make up for ugliness in every other aspect!
Hahahaha ... good one!
But seriously, SJ maybe no JLo or Jessica Alba, but I would bet all that I own that you would do her gladly if offered. Sure, we don't all have the same tastes (which is a very good thing, BTW), but let's keep this a little bit realistic.
I, for one, have fucked much uglier women and like it :D
euro
Hahahaha ... good one!
But seriously, SJ maybe no JLo or Jessica Alba, but I would bet all that I own that you would do her gladly if offered. Sure, we don't all have the same tastes (which is a very good thing, BTW), but let's keep this a little bit realistic.
I, for one, have fucked much uglier women and like it :D
euro
Hey Euro,
From the contact that I have had with Peter, I take him at his word. There is no doubt in my mind that he really finds Ms. Johansson to be grungy.
I have not seen pictures of her for some time. Has she really gotten so pasty and fat?
Cheers,
Dedalus
Do the guys who run World read this forum?
I've been following the reports on the new girls and the public activity.
Is it possible this is a reaction to our posts complaining there isn't much public activity?
These guys are too customer minded to imagine they would not read the forums and not take the opinions into consideration for improvement of their business. I wished I had such a marketing tool for my own business!
They don't only read, they have even a banner on the German forum as does Goldentime and other FKKs. Regarding ISG, I guess they read it also but probably not as much the German one. There are a few things that made me think they did read the forum, but I can't guarantee. If I sometimes don't hide my Internet identity to the girls, I have never discussed this with a club owner. I believe that it's better from an ethical point of view, but anyone can have his own opinion about this.
Regarding the new girls in FKK World, it's unlikely that it is related with the recent opinions on ISG, timing in between is too short.
Most important, anyone including club owners may read the forum. Keep this always in mind when reporting, especially when it's about a girl.
Do the guys who run World read this forum?
I've been following the reports on the new girls and the public activity.
Is it possible this is a reaction to our posts complaining there isn't much public activity?
I would think it rather unlikely that the FKKW management would act to reverse a grievance voiced only on this forum. This is mostly Auslander chat, ja? Now if this were heavy duty Deutsche complaints, well then...vieleicht...
Fritz2 - I think you summarize well. Welcome to the forum (I see you are already a prefect elswhere0
generally - The management definitely do keep an eye on this forum, altho' the German forums are much more important for them. Some of the girls also do.
Anyaway, on my recent visit unfortunately Tina (formerly Taisa) was off, as were many workers, after the arrival of the new girls. I did however have the good fortune to meet Liza again. She had previously worked two weeks at World last December and now decided to return
Liza: Latvia
Age : 30ish
Figure: slim, small breasts
Hair: shock of black wavy hair swept back
Face: slightly wide and round (as opposed to the aquiline look of some girls)
Attire: usually wears a leopard (?) pattern sash and black shoes (not platform)
Language: a little English, reasonable German
Pick-up technique - minimal
Kissing - very much
Style: GFE
She is a lovely, sensitive person who is doing the job not only for the money but because she enjoys sex. She is committed to giving a good service and has enormous integrity. She also has a tender touch and melts into any physical contact. I found her absolutely marvellous. I spent many many sessions with her. For me she was absolutely wonderful
She is there until 8th I think (like Tina) and then plans to come back again after a short gap
Just to check whether I was getting biased, I thought I would try one of the new girls. The new girls appear to be mostly experienced and to be in the early to mid 20s mainly. I went with one. Against my better judgement.
Mona : I forget where she said she came from
Ag: early 20s
Figure: slim petite
Hair: black straight, tied back
Language: excellent English
Pick up technique: friendly discussion
Kissing: minimal
Style: uncommitted professional
She was not unpleasant but was very forward about herself. She corrected my English (incorrectly as it turned out) and compared herself to Goethe. Now, she may be very able, but I think these may indicate something about her. The sex was adequate, but uncommitted and mechanical. She tried to finish the session after 23 minutes, but I refused, so we stayed and managed to hold an interesting chat about something. I had to try quite hard to get her to acknowledge me the following day
After Mona I vowed not to try any more new girls unless I felt they were good bets. Several tried to pick me up, usually by very forceful statements - for example about how good they were, how they were better than the existing girls. I did not find (apart from a possible couple) any who had the eyes of people fully present in what they were doing - part of them seemed to be hidden away. There is more to them than meets the eye it appears
GabrielPontello
10-09-06, 15:08
Back to World after a 8-months absence, I found a worse situation than in the past, without any real stunner and a lazy atmosphere.
Anyway I nicely spent my time there with 4 girls, ranked from the best to the worst in the following:
1-Lana, 22, IT/GER, nice, warm and gourgeous, a great interesting mix
2-Anda, 21 ?, ROM, cute and a great professional
3-Vicky, 25, BR, her best in the past, excellent BJ, but nothing to write home about
4-Cristina, 22, east europe, ugly, a perfect concentrate of what we really don't like in a girls (still asking me WHY?)
Heard from Anda that her and some collgues make some live shows after 8p.m. by themselves and with some exhibistionist customer
It was a pitty I had to get my return flght at that time....
I will be in frankfurt Oct 11 to 16.
By the sounds of it the fun and quality has really gone down at World. Is it even worth it for me to stop by?
I was at World in Mid-September and I felt that it really has gone downhill in terms of quality when I last visited in May.
Any Comments?
GabrielPontello
10-10-06, 10:37
I had the same your doubts in the past in order of this and the other clubs...
After almost 4 yrs. of fKK visits, I guess the quality is up and down and you can be lucky or not even in close days
The only place where I ever found a high average and several top class was Atlantis (what a place !!) altough it was too crowded after 6 p.m. to be comfotable
if you're staying at FRA, your place is World for sure but someday you might find, if lucky, a fine situation at Oase or Palace (to avoid in the late afternoon, too many customers)
Hi Irish Pussyman-
I sure wish I could join you but it's just impossible. Thus it falls on you to report on this unprecedented event- 100 girls? count em for us. You lucky guy.
beffen
Do you know that:
a) The entry is free on Friday and Sunday (with voucher from website or newspaper)
b) They announced free alcohol/cocktails
This could either turn into a public orgy (at best) or into a complete waste of time or anything inbetween. ;)
Do you know that:
a) The entry is free on Friday and Sunday (with voucher from website or newspaper)
b) They announced free alcohol/cocktails
This could either turn into a public orgy (at best) or into a complete waste of time or anything inbetween. ;)
Good point, Fritz!
Free entry? This means free for men and women too, ja? So, that's how they intend to reach the announced quota of 100 girls...Remember the reports about World that first few days when they opened a few years ago? Lot's of bad, undesirable elements, both male and female. Girls you would never go with, and men/boys who were just there to look! Even poking their noses behind "closed doors" or curtains....
Could be a real bummer, this party...I hope not.
Ortos
Do you know that:
a) The entry is free on Friday and Sunday (with voucher from website or newspaper)
b) They announced free alcohol/cocktails
This could either turn into a public orgy (at best) or into a complete waste of time or anything inbetween. ;)
Hello Fritz,
I am hoping that the positive reports that your Roemer-brethren have posted are true. I am also bummed that I cannot be in or near Pohlheim this weekend. Sounds like a great way to spend a Saturday, if nothing else for the "Live-Show" spectacles ;-)))
Gruß,
Dedalus, voyeur
Nick The G
10-15-06, 00:09
Free entry? This means free for men and women too, ja? So, that's how they intend to reach the announced quota of 100 girls...Ortos, are you dreaming? Of course, all the girls had to pay! This is (their) business, man!
Short note on Friday, Oct. 13th:
Between 1 and 5 o'clock, atmosphere was relaxed, already lots of girls, free rooms available.
Nice chat with Steffi and Annamarie(former Hannah, came back Thursday to WORLD) from Romania and Camilla from Turkey (came back on this Friday!).
After 6 o'clock the wintergarten was full of men, after 8 o'clock it was crowded with men, you could hardly see girls between all the men. Maybe 70-80 girls alltogether, but not the announced 100!
Loud music, Disco Feeling, but almost noone (of the men) dancing. Downstairs was crowded too, everywhere men, men, men. Of course you had to wait for rooms to be free! Crowds of men flooding through the floors.
Lots of public action, almost every hour a ”lesbo show” in the center of the Wintergarten! Dancing, licking and fucking on the tabledance platform, especially during the shows and in some more remote places in the Wintergarten shortly after.
I would call it ”sexaerobic workout”. Sometimes 6-10 female bodies (and 1-2 male bodies) on the platform in all sort of movements and positions licking and sucking as much as they could.
Crowds of men standing around the platform. Jessica and Romina fishing men out of the crowd and seducing them successfully to take part in public action (to be continued in a room or the sex cinema for another 5-10 minutes to obtain the 50 Euro).
For the thirsty: alcoholic cocktails with bacardi rum or vodka for free.
For the hungry: spaghetti and tomato sauce.
Organisation and service was very good.
girlswise concentrated on Hungary this time: again a very pleasant and long session with dark haired Adrienn/Adriana from Hungary early in the afternoon.
And a very good continuation and physically exhausting session with blond Audrey (?) from Hungary (who came back to World on this Friday too!) later in the night.
After midnight, hords of young turkish men flooded the place.
Many idiots looking what's going on in the rooms and sitting with their shoes in the sauna.
Time to go! Should have left the place at 10 o'clock latest!
Sunday I give it another try! And start very early.
Thanks Nick for that update!
Sounds just like most mega-party events at World: Get there early and it might be interestig, but as the night evolves so does the quality of the mongering experience de-volve! Those packs of Turks remind me of the obnoxious types that invaded World during its opening days with free entry. This is exactly what some of us feared. Parties always have too many men and too unrelaxed atmosphere for me, anyway. And the free-flowing alcohol, well, that has it's obvious down-side too, no?
It is nice to see public action take place, but the kind you describe is not exactly what many of have in mind when we talk about "couch action."
Were these mainly the "new girls" who were perfoming on the platform and trying to seduce guys to participate, then give them 5-10min in the room to extract the 50E notes?
Anyway, it is nice to hear some of the old girls like Hannah and Camilla are back...
Thanks again for your update. Love to hear more and from other perspectives...
Ortos
Somebody please advice on how to reach World from Hahn airport? Please suggest more economical way for 3 people (of course, except walking!)
Somebody please advice on how to reach World from Hahn airport? Please suggest more economical way for 3 people (of course, except walking!)If you are not going to hire a car9which would be the quickest and most economical way) get the Ryanair/ROHR
Macho mad. If you go back to a very old post I did - number 535 in the World thread, the info there will help you get to World very cheaply from Frankfurt Hbf - to which the bus from Hahn goes. You may need to think about hotels served by public transport. Car hire might be worth checking - you can usually get a decent car for 30E a day
If you are going by public transport,then get the Ryanair/ROHR bus from the the front of the termainal at Hahn,to Frankfurt hbf (main train station) 12 euros each,and then by train to Gissen abot 30 km north,depending on the time of day there are trains to Garbenteich,you will then have a walk from there,otherwise there are buses from Gissen hbf to Pohlheim-Garbenteich,or a taxi from Gissen will cost about 30 euros,I have walked there a few times both summer and winter,and believe me the hill at the end of the walk up to FKK world is a killer,so maybe a taxi,
Hire car at Hahn,that would be a quicker and econical way.
I hope that helps.
I will be in Germany myself from monday 16 October all week, so will have a look at the big three, World, Oase, and The Palace.
Have fun.
Best regards,
Viscount
If I were you, then I would just rent a car. Much easier and probably cheaper than public transportation from Hahn. Split three ways, this should be a no-brain-er unless you cannot drive for whatever reason.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Nick The G
10-16-06, 22:20
Were these mainly the "new girls" who were perfoming on the platform and trying to seduce guys to participate, then give them 5-10min in the room to extract the 50E notes?Yes, the ”shows” are performed by groups consisting of new girls only! Jessica, riding most of the men on stage, seems to be the coordinator. Romina is commissioned/allowed to lick Jessicas pussy before men are invited to do so too. Melissa with long blond hair trying to play the male role carrying out some (rather mechanical) Dildo actions. The names of the other girls involved I do not know.
In between the shows there are some other girls from the club doing solo performances, e.g. dark-haired Chanel, beautifully shaped and dancing. She alone was doing several shows on Friday and Sunday.
Member #4170
10-18-06, 21:53
Beffen I was thinking of how I was going to write a report about this party when I looked at the fourm and see that Nick the G has writen everything I was going to say and much more, in much better detail then I ever would have been able to do, Well done Nick.
I will however add my two cents worth.
From a personal point of view I was delighted that Tina(Montenegro) with the large breasts had made the trip, she only works now when there are big party days, she has always been one of my favs, I think I would marry her if I could afford to keep her and if she would have me.
The shows were not bad at all if you like watching young nubile ladies licking and fingering each other, followed by some strap on action, and some punter getting a five minute ride on the stage and the having to pay fo the pleasure, yes I did enjoy watching them, and no I did not do a public ride.
That sums it all up from me.
Looking forward to next trip, when ever that might be, dont think I can make it back before year end.
Regards to my fellow mongers.
Irishpussyman
Good news for anyone that is close to World this week. Cordelia is back for the week. I just wish that it was not so far to travel. She will provide the ultimate service and enjoy it as well. Be kind to her and you will be more than equally rewarded.
Some girls offer CIM--others say they don't do it. But most girls don't say either. What should one assume with the silent ones? I don't usually go for it, but sometimes it isn't easy to stop in time.
Hong Kong Boy
10-24-06, 03:54
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a Marriott hotel close to Fkk world. If I remember right someone post there is one that you can walk to world. I try to do a search with "fkk world marriott" and couldn't find anything, not sure if I did it right!
Thanks for the help.
Hi,
Can anyone tell me if there is a Marriott hotel close to Fkk world. If I remember right someone post there is one that you can walk to world. I try to do a search with "fkk world marriott" and couldn't find anything, not sure if I did it right!
Thanks for the help.There is no Marriott near FKK World, but there is a hotel in Garbentiech (a 10 minute walk from World) and where the train and bus operate from, but not sure of the name. You could try a Google search.
I hope that helps.
Regards,
Viscount
There is a marriot within walking distance (long walk) of Palace. But I don't know of a Marriott near World and there certainly isn't one within walking distance as it's near an industrial area outside a small town.
Hong Kong Boy
10-25-06, 07:33
Thanks for the info. I think I mix it up with Palace thanks.
George Bickham
10-25-06, 17:01
I visited World a couple of times over the summer for a long day out. When the weather is good, its nice just to lie there, read the papers and watch the eye candy walk by. But once the weather gets wet, the big room upstairs as always a bit dark and a bit loud for me, and the girls can be difficult to approach when its slow. Plus the limited couch action makes it difficult to assess before you start.
But my really big gripe is the food. The barbecue on sunny days is OK, but the indoor food is frankly wretched- I ate one so-called meal this summer, was almost sick and had to lie down for half an hour to recover.
Bob Brooks, who founded Hooters, reckoned tht you could not go wrong if you offered good food, cold beer and beautiful women. No problem with the beautiful women. But how about a few (free) cold beers? And some edible food? Bernds has free cold beer and a local hotel provididng good, wholesome stuff, and all for EUR 60 entrance not 65.
In fact, in my opinion, the only serious reason to go to World is to meet up with Cordelia, who has to be one of the most sensual women I have ever met. These things are very personal; some people will have fun together and others will not. We just clicked, and it was like being a teenager agian, only with the benefit of experience. Cordelia seems to really enjoy what she is doing, and gives one a wonderful, sensual time. So if you run into her, please treat her well, and you may be amply rewarded.
And lets try and persuade World to put on some paletable food and cold beers!
Bernds has free cold beer and a local hotel provididng good, wholesome stuff, and all for EUR 60 entrance not 65.
fee is EUR 70.
Nick The G
10-25-06, 22:33
I have to go to such terrible places, you wouldn't believe!
....it's so far away
....it's too dark in the winter
....it's too loud in the summer
....girls sometimes are so diffficult to approach there,
....all what the girls want, is my money
....they are very direct, they want sex with me before I even know if they are o.k.
....there they serve terrible food only,
....I had stomach problems, didn't function for a while...
....there is no free cold beer available!
After all, you know...., for me, seriously, there is only one woman in this world....!
I visited World a couple of times over the summer for a long day out. When the weather is good, its nice just to lie there, read the papers and watch the eye candy walk by.There is nothing like this WORLD in the whole world, it's true.
But once the weather gets wet, the big room upstairs is always a bit dark and a bit loud for me, and the girls can be difficult to approach when its slow. Plus the limited couch action makes it difficult to assess before you start.If only you could see what is going on there this week with the ”Oriental Sexpress”. A completely changed atmosphere. You wouldn't believe your eyes!!!!! A super sensual and erotic experience, belly dancers included.
Have you ever been there on a party? They always spent a lot of effort for decoration.
But my really big gripe is the food. The barbecue on sunny days is OK, but the indoor food is frankly wretched- I ate one so-called meal this summer, was almost sick and had to lie down for half an hour to recover. If you want a good restaurant in Germany, find one and go there, enjoy your meal! If you want a good fuck, go to FKK-WORLD.
On the other hand: why don't you bring your mother or your wife along to cook for you?..... (big grin...)
Or if you like fast sex so much, go to a fast food place beforehand, fill your stomach, take a digestive rest and then: action!
If you need alcohol to better approach women: take over responsibility for yourself already outside the club, fill yourself with enough beer and come to FKK-World with a taxi.
In fact, in my opinion, the only serious reason to go to World is to meet up with Cordelia, who has to be one of the most sensual women I have ever met. There are many many good reasons to go to FKK-WORLD, but I do agree, Cordelia is a unique exception and lovely person.
So far, I didn`t have the pleasure, but had many talks with her. In a conversation with her a couple of weeks ago, I told her that my star sign is scorpio and she replied, smiling: If you want, you can sting me anytime....
What a deathly seducing invitation to participate in for a scorpio
I ate one so-called meal this summer, was almost sick and had to lie down for half an hour to recover.
Must have been the Hackbällchen Toscana.
sex in the city awards „and the winner is.....”
fkk world—friday, oct. 20th
howdy gents,
last friday i paid good ole’ fkk world my first visit since the alice-debacle. the fredster was thinking that a run to palace might be in order but after giving those folks a ring and finding out that a few of fred’s favorites were taking the night off, we kept to the world arrangement.
i entered the club at around 8:45 and was not unimpressed with a few of the sights; some old, some new. the new virginia reminds me a little of vicky with breasts. jessy (aka, the evil pixie) is the leader of the new romanian crew. she is looking pretty sexy as well. while the new romanian crew certainly has a few lookers in its midst, i was not incredibly taken with them. i do think that they are having a good effect on the club’s mood and atmosphere. i did spot a sweet looking little girl in the romanian crowed who may have been the laura that i have heard so much about. unfortunately i only saw her a few times that evening and both times i had just finished sessions.
i was certainly ready for some fun but having read many mixed reviews i decided to curb my enthusiasm and wait for a tried and true favorite. i did not have to wait long, for after making a quick “look-see” run with fred and setting up a watch station at one of the tables in the wintergarten, i received big smiles and “hallos” from olga and camilla. olga fetched me in her friendly yet lecherous gaze, as she could tell from my smile and lecherous gaze that i was hooked and an effortless catch. i waved goodbye to fred and camilla and let olga von der volga lead me off to a more private local.
“best tongue in the business” award
name: olga
hair: red
size: ~ 1,85 m (in heels)
figure: slender, b cups, legs, legs, legs!
origin: russia
born: ~ 1980?
service: bbbj, pse-gfe
location: fkk world.
there is not a lot wrong with olga’s performance. looks wise she is tall, statuesque, has wonderful legs, and has a pleasant, funny yet devilishly wicked smile. for me the red hair is also a big turn-on. all the requirements to get a man’s engine running. in the room she can be chatty but not overly so. but one of the main things that separates olga apart many others is her tongue-talent. she must really have batteries or something installed in that thing. after just the right amount of small talk and joking she purred, threw me on the bed and begin the famous “olga tongue-bath” of which a few of you folks have had the pleasure of enjoying. her tongue has the speed of a hummingbird’s wing and she can keep this up for a good ten minutes or so. i have had many olga sessions, but i have never gotten tired of this treatment. she is also quite the multi-tasker as she can keep this up whilst performing a very wild blowjob. not that the meat and potatoes part of the session was anything less than wonderful, but olga’s mouth makes every meeting special. great first session!
later after freshening up i go accosted by a charming and fairly attractive blonde german girl. she gives a friendly impression and offered a good time with her girlfriend. had i not read a few negative reports on the roemer board about a solala performer named conny, then i might have been enticed. between olga temporarily sapping my strength and a bit of useful research i was probably saved. also i am always skeptical when, on a first meeting a girl tries to sell me a threesome. this is often a sign of a churn and burn gold-digger.
fred was nowhere to be found and i assumed that he was off somewhere reading poems to some young lady.
i observed that the male-to female ratio was certainly in our favor and i noticed a number of ladies heading home earlier than usual that evening. i had penciled in martina or edith in as possibilities but both made early exits. alas, no hungarians made the dance-card that friday. (sorry chivaz.)
while making my way to one of the sofas for a little power relaxation, i spotted donna and her all-world body. she gave me a warm smile which surprised me after our last encounter but i was touched and sincerely returned the gesture. another guest was starting to move in on her so i was content to sit back and watch the effect she was having on this dude. she had a commanding effect without a doubt, and those two were off and running to a room after only a few minutes of small talk and a bit of heavy petting. perfect, for now i will have a little more recovery time. donna would be my next prey.
“best combination optik-fuck /tit fuck/high-heel fuck” award
name: donna
hair: blonde hair with a bit of black color in the back
size: ~ 1, 55 m
figure: mega enhanced d sized breasts, slender, sexy legs.
origin: i have heard macedonian, but she told me that she was half swiss, and half yugoslavian
born: ~ 1983
service: bbbj!!!, dfk, pse.
other: large cross tattoo on her back directly under her blonde/back mane.
location: form. oase. splits time between palace, world, and artemis.
i have heard all of the donna comments and critiques; both good and bad. some say that she looks a little artificial. i won’t argue with that assessment, but she still is damn sexy in my book. i think she could do with a little less make-up and she would be more attractive, but that is her choice and i am okay with it.
some have said that she can be rather cold in the room and that she is only an optik-fuck. i do not doubt that she can be distant. i personally click pretty well with her and i know several others who do as well. my advice to anyone who is interested in climbing donna’s hills, but is looking for an intimate experience is to use your instincts and if you do not feel any sort of connection, then don’t bother. if however she likes you, you like her and there is a bit of a spark, then you are in for a treat! if she is indeed only an optik-fuck, then she is a bloody hot one!
some have complained about her boob-job. maybe i am shallow, but i find them glorious and tons o’ fun to play with. friday was no exception and she was more than happy to let me use her in this way. now that cindy (palace) is gone, donna may just have to be who i go to for my “tit-fuck” fix.
personally i understand why the girl has such a big following. it is interesting to note that a good number of germans (who claim to be “anti-silis”) seem to be members of the donna fan-club and await with bated-breath for news of where and when she will be working. the girl is doing something right. still, caveat emptor.
after heading to the lockers to give bella donna her well earned honorarium, fred and another well-known club connoisseur spotted me. the look of puzzlement on fred’s face was priceless. donna probably thought that he was trying to figure out how anyone with tits the size of texas could walk without tipping over.
i later explained to him that i had forgiven donna for an earlier transgression and, as the old saying goes “she sure ‘nuff can rattle those pots and pans!!!”
i had a very nice and informative conversation with one of the bigwigs from another board. he made me feel a little guilty for not posting a few “berichte” and i have promised to do so in the future, as his and the others’ work on that rival board has been rather valuable for me and many others.
watching some dance work from a few of the new ladies was attention-grabbing although not the burning, raunchy, live-sex stuff that i had been reading about. the new girl from madrid (or wherever) has got some moves on the stage. she could be a worthwhile session during some future visit. as i said, she reminds me a little of vicky (palace) with breasts. if she has vicky’s bedroom talents, then she would be irresistible.
i had seen daniela running around in her sexy, red boots and was thinking about a second reunion that evening, but every time i started toward her, some hack would get in there before me. another sexy-boot wearing girl, isabella caught my eye and i decided that i would have to try at least one new act that evening.
most “in need of improvement” award:
name: isabella
hair: dirty blonde, tussled
size: ~ 1, 65 m
figure: a cups, slender, sexy legs.
origin: romanian
born: ~ 1978 ?
service: bbbj.
location: world
i was impressed by her honesty about her country of origin. since so many of the romanian girls are getting such a negative reputation, many are fibbing about where they hail from. at world if a girl tells you that she is from spain or italy, then there is a pretty good chance that she is romanian. isabella was honest which was refreshing. she is a friendly girl who has been at world for about one week and she seemed pretty gregarious and sexually playful. plus the black fuck-me boots were working their charms on me as well. in the room she performed an adequate blow job although it was timed a bit short. during missionary sex she was pretty standard. she was clearly trying to get the session to be over sooner by encouraging me to “oh ja, come” every five seconds or so. hopefully she will learn that if she wants to get done with a session before the 30 minute bell tolls, then there are more efficient and sexier ways to get a man to ejaculate than to repeat the same, artificial phrase, ad infinitum. she might even get a repeat customer or two.
not a terrible session, but there are too many better ones to be found. hopefully for her sake she will improve.
i was pretty sure that i was done for the evening and i was content to take a long nap and let the fredster fulfill his sexual prowess goals while i regenerated for the next day. at some point i awoke to the sounds of a frisky, romanian voice on the couch across from me. daniela was getting “playful” with two guys who were going through the motions but it was clear after a few minutes of horse play that those boys were not going to take the next step. however seeing daniela in her red boots straddling that one dude started to awaken firm sensations in me and despite it being 4:00 am and having already engaged in three pops, i thought that given a bit more “daniela-motivation”, i might have one more in me.
i went upstairs with fred to have a coffee and listen to his exploits, but also to see where daniela was keeping herself. i discovered her in the kino going down on some lucky soul in front of an appreciative crowd of onlookers. “what fun!” i thought and returned to my coffee and fred. later as she was leaving the kino with her victim, i gave her a smile, a wave and a wink which she returned. it was getting close to 4:30 and i was starting to think that maybe it was time to call it an evening when i felt two arms around me, two rather nice breasts on my back and a tongue in my ear followed by the words, “i want to fuck you in the kino.” daniela ain’t what you would call subtle.
mvp “most valuable pop” award
name: daniela
hair: brown with blond tints, curly, shoulder length
size: ~ 1,7 m
figure: slender, b/c breasts (nicely enhanced), great figure!
origin: rumanian
born: ~ 1978?
tattoos/piercing: tribal on lower back
service: bbbj, dfk, pse-gfe a wild one:-)
other: wow! a living legend in the fkk scene
location: fkk world.
daniela is looking rather fit and trim these days and is just stone-sexy!!! as i was kind of on a boot kick that evening, she was just what the doctor ordered. she led me into the kino, right to the lower level closest to the screen. a number of onlookers were still watching; one of them being a coworker of daniela’s. no matter, for shyness went out the window with this girl a long time ago. she went to work with one of her classic “body to body” massages that could get a eunuch hard. then she went to work on dedalus jr. who was very much ready for her attentions. i caught her looking up now and then to check out the crowd. i looked back at one point to see about five guys and a girl trying to convince one dude lying down on the top rung, that he was not too tired to party.
daniela maneuvered a rather tasty twat (no lie, gents!) above my face for me to enjoy for awhile. then came what i thought was a classic maneuver: after nimbly slipping a condom on me with her mouth, her colleague, who had been successful in her sales-job, asked daniela if she had a spare condom. without breaking a stride, daniela positioned her pussy perfectly over my erect dick, fished a condom out of her purse, tore open the package with her teeth, eased her wonder box onto my shaft and on her third upward thrust, perfectly tossed the open condom to her colleague. this she did to a rousing round of applause, including my own. i was also laughing a little at the comic hilarity of her performance. this is not something you will find in any chaplin or marx brother’s film.
she went back to performing, showing everyone a great cowgirl and rcg which those red boots ornamented quite nicely. whilst switching between cg and rcg she told me, “don’t worry. you’ll get the chance to really fuck me soon.” she was good to her word and when she was ready rolled me over so that we could get some quality missionary time in, all the while moaning and saying things like “you fuck so good.” and “i need this.” and a few loud “yeses” and some high shrieks. these are daniela-standards but her act is so convincing that it does not matter when you’re in the middle of it, that you have heard most of it before.
in our wild misso, she brought me to the edge several times before finally letting me finish. afterward she told me, “you fuck better in kino than in the room.” for what it’s worth, it was nice to hear. i hope that the other rubberneckers enjoyed it as much as i did. nothing quite like finishing the evening with your best session.
after showering and changing we enjoyed the early morning fashion show at the club’s entrance. this seems to have become a tradition.
evaluation: the new girls are having an overall positive effect on the club atmosphere. it is certainly a livelier setting. no one in the new group really struck me as having “star” or “top-act” qualities, but then i am not sure that i saw the best that this new group has to offer. the much written about sarah (italy), vivian (germany), laura (romanian) and sylvia (latvia) were either not available or not present. next time, perhaps. in the meantime, i am more than happy to enjoy the classics.
cheers,
dedalus
As much as I hated the 'World Days', I have to say that I enjoyed the 'Orient SexExpress' a lot.
They turned half of the wintergarden into an oriental cafe (or rather harem?) with carpets, rugs, silk cushions, small tea tables, candle lights and oriental leather stools all over the place. The windows were covered and parts of the ceiling lowered with goblins, and a small, dedicated freelancer team which had been hired for this oriental experience served excellent turkish coffeee, even better arabic tea and an overwhelming selection of water pipe tobaccos, all with a laid-back nonchalance and great friendliness - and all for free.
Suddenly this often quite sterile and 'cold' wintergarden turned into a cozy and nice retreat with lots of atmosphere and even some 'gemütlichkeit'. In the evening, a nice blend of turkish/arabic/indian dance music plus a belly dancer and some occasional romanian and bulgarian girls happily joining the dance added just the right amount of spice, while small groups of punters and girls were happily sitting together at the tables and passing the water pipes around.
I'm following the recent outburst of marketing creativity on side of the FKKW management both with astonishment and surprise - this must be the most eager, active and properly managed FKK sex club in Germany right now. Sometimes their initiatives seemed to be a bit half-baked (as with the 'World Days'), but then again they are hitting the nail right on the head as with the 'Orient SexExpress".
Just my 2 cents,
Fritz
And lets try and persuade World to put on some paletable food and cold beers!It almost seems that you might have no clue what you are talking about - cold beer IS available (among other alcoholic beverages) for quite a while now.
It almost seems that you might have no clue what you are talking about - cold beer IS available (among other alcoholic beverages) for quite a while now.
Hello Fritz (and others),
You are right about the beer and I personally think that GB's assessment of World is off the mark. Still he did say it was his personal viewpoint, so we should all practice a little tolerance. (Meiner Meinung nach hast du recht.)
No problem in correcting fallacies though ;-)))
Cheers,
Dedalus, World-Fan
Sex in the City Awards „And the winner is.....”
FKK World—Friday, Oct. 20th
While the new Romanian crew certainly has a few lookers in its midst, I was not incredibly taken with them. I do think that they are having a good effect on the club’s mood and atmosphere.
Fred was nowhere to be found and I assumed that he was off somewhere reading poems to some young lady.
“Best Combination Optik-Fuck /Tit Fuck/High-Heel Fuck” Award
name: Donna
Personally I understand why the girl has such a big following. It is interesting to note that a good number of Germans (who claim to be “Anti-Silis”) seem to be members of the Donna fan-club and await with bated-breath for news of where and when she will be working. The girl is doing something right. Still, caveat emptor.
Not a terrible session, but there are too many better ones to be found. Hopefully for her sake she will improve.
MVP “Most Valuable Pop” Award
name: Daniela
Daniela is looking rather fit and trim these days and is just stone-sexy!!!
Ah Daniella, Daniella, Daniella. One day I will store up enough energy to try her again.
I am an Anti-sil also, but I got the raging horn for Donna.
Escellent report, and please keep it up. You can write when you want to you lazy so-and-so LOL
See you around soon, most enjoyable, must see the new look world.
Excellent report, and please keep it up. You can write when you want to you lazy so-and-so LOL
Not lazy, just spending all that time working on the big hard-cover breakthrough.
Cheers,
Dedalus
I must report that that my usual favorite "World" has fallen in the Big 3 Clubs ranking. Maybe it is just me, but the Arabian Nights theme does not stir warm feelings. I prefer the International Disco fantasy and the traditional Disco music. In the end its the ladies that are the best calling card and the talent is fewer in number and lesser in quantity from previous times. Undoubtedly the "buzz" with return someday, but for now Palace and Oase have overtaken my old favorite.
Very brief update on four days.
The “Rumanians” are already showing some turnover, some having left, and are beginning to be less like a marauding tribe. While I was there I noticed that the mechanical shows had stopped and that instead they were actually trying to get some customers for themselves - it looked as if it was not a comfortable experience for some of them. Instead of turning up at 21.00 they started turning up at 15.00. They are now on the same footing as the rest of the girls and that can only be good.. None of them actually appealed to me - they all looked to me to be hard faced and not sensitive
Liza from Latvia did not actually get to the club so I was very very disappointed. But some of the girls were very nice to me, helping with some information and intelligence
Snowflake - Moldavia - German residency - blonde, hair normally tied back - fuller figure -was extremely lovely. She helped me out of the kindness of her heart. We sessioned eventually, and she continued to be very nice. I had avoided her previously as she tends to process men quickly - but she says that she reacts to whether the man is nice or not. She is popular with customers but never features on forums. She has a very lovely colleague who however does not speak any english - she also helped me
Flora - Bulgaria/Hungary or similar. Black hair cut in a bob, very slim, wears flipflops. Pleasant enough but no fireworks. I went with her against my judgement as I had been told she was nice
Aileen - German Turk. Very thin, black hair. Extremely mediocre. I went with her against my better judgement.
Nikki - Czech - broad features, large lips, curly longish hair. We spent many hours together,. She was incredibly interesting and interested - for some reason this seems nearly always to be the case with Czech/Slovak girls. The sex was not of the most passionate, but we shared (free) champagne, and were engrossed enough not to bother with trying to win the 2500E price for the oil wrestling!!
So whilst I missed the passionate and kind Liza, I had some kindness from strangers.
No Edith, Camilla, Stella, Natasha, Audrey, Betty - I hope that some of these erstwhile regulars will return as they bring a bit of variation and style. Sharon, Anna Marie, Maria ((from Bulgaria) after an absence of a year) were there
The club continues to be clean and look for high standards. Now if only someone could tell them that vegetables do exist in Germany …..
Btw - for those of you who read a certain german forum, I have to say the reports indicate an inability to count numbers of women, and that, unlike this forum, they are making inaccurate criticisms of the club but failing to report on actually going with the girls
The “Rumanians” are already showing some turnover, some having left, and are beginning to be less like a marauding tribe. While I was there I noticed that the mechanical shows had stopped and that instead they were actually trying to get some customers for themselves - it looked as if it was not a comfortable experience for some of them. Instead of turning up at 21.00 they started turning up at 15.00. They are now on the same footing as the rest of the girls and that can only be good.. None of them actually appealed to me - they all looked to me to be hard faced and not sensitive.Right. They seem to appear less regular now (fatigue?), and not as such a homogenous and complete group anymore.
Flora - Bulgaria/Hungary or similar. Black hair cut in a bob, very slim, wears flipflops. Pleasant enough but no fireworks. I went with her against my judgement as I had been told she was niceI understood her name was Laura(?), but it must be the same girl. Not the best looking chick by conventional standards, but she is special and had that certain touch that kept my attention - I *knew* I had to fuck her. It was a pleasant experience, although not top-notch. But she is nice and cooperative, and I just loved her sweet and sexy Viennese accent - she's been living there for years and speaks almost like a native.
The club continues to be clean and look for high standards. Now if only someone could tell them that vegetables do exist in Germany …..At least they're offering salad. But I agree that the food in the Palace is better - for about 15 minutes every couple of hours. ;)
Btw - for those of you who read a certain german forum, I have to say the reports indicate an inability to count numbers of women, and that, unlike this forum, they are making inaccurate criticisms of the club but failing to report on actually going with the girlsGuilty as charged - I guess nobody is perfect. ;-)
fritz - maybe it was laura - yes , she came from vienna.
i did not include your postings or those of novize in my comments:-)
btw - maria has lost a lot of weight and looks even better. she was as entertaining and rep001ty as ever.
Houellebecq
11-01-06, 18:28
Accomodation is really an issue with FKK World. If you want to do more than the usual "drop in by car, fuck some girls and hit the road again" there, it is somewhat difficult. I love to get into the mood by having a very good bottle of red wine before visiting a club, so I appreciate a decent hotel near the club. Right next to the Palace, there is a cool new hotel, "Fleming's". From FKK World, the next decent hotel is the Best Western "Steinsgarten", which is a relatively long and thus expensive taxi ride away. No way to retire for some time to your room, to gather new strength :-) The next Marriott is in Frankfurt, about 60 km away.
However, I've heard that you can book a room WITHIN FKK World, but only if you book a girl along with it.
Recently I have also heard that FKK World plans to build a hotel right next to the club, but the project seems to be objected by the locals.
There is no Marriott near FKK World, but there is a hotel in Garbentiech (a 10 minute walk from World) and where the train and bus operate from, but not sure of the name. You could try a Google search.
I hope that helps.
Regards,
Viscount
btw - maria has lost a lot of weight and looks even better. she was as entertaining and rep001ty as ever.
its not the maria from bulgaria witht he snub nose and the strange opinions and varying attitude is it?
Its not the Maria from Bulgaria witht he snub nose and the strange opinions and varying attitude is it?
Hey Mike,
I was waiting for you to perk up at the mention of her.
Yes, she is the cute little smart-ass that attracted your attention some time ago.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Nick The G
11-01-06, 19:57
btw - maria has lost a lot of weight and looks even better. she was as entertaining and rep001ty as ever.she's very slim now indeed! and she surprised me with swallowing the complete dick, looking at me, smiling and saying: ”you see, i don't need to vomit!” which i didn't believe in our conversation before going to the room.
seems she has some more tattoos on her back and her side now.
the “rumanians” are already showing some turnover, some having left, and are beginning to be less like a marauding tribe. while i was there i noticed that the mechanical shows had stopped and that instead they were actually trying to get some customers for themselves ....some faces of the romanian cohort i was missing already last week on thursday. last time i saw jessica was last week on tuesday in world, all these romanians came very late, and she was talking a lot to her ”manager” sitting at the bar upstairs. several of these ”guys” could be observed to hang around in fkk-world in week long efforts to watch their ”loved ones” at work.
now i understand why they offer this vip card where you can stay every day for one month! i think, this must be a pimp special.
wednesday and thursday last week none of these girls were there.
i heard that jessica is in palace now.
at least two girls (one of them esmeralda) showed their photos and offered their service for one night stands in an internet auction, stating that they are as ”au pairs” in germany (in german language). esmeralda obtained an offer for 918 euros, the other one for 710 euros. a third one of the romanians can be seen on one of the photos too!
do they know that the german police likes to collect these types of photos?
http://www.gesext.info/sex-dates/sex/sexauktionen/paare/liebesspiele/181102/sexauktion.html
http://www.gesext.info/sex-dates/gesext/sex/erotikauktion/escortservice/176122/sexauktion.html
I heard that Jessica is in Palace now.
Hey Nick,
Say it isn't so! Is she bringing the whole busload with her? Not sure that Palace needs that right now. If this is so, then IMHO World's gain is Palace's loss. World needed the "Vitaminspritze" but Palace is a different story. The last thing that club needs is a pack of new and aggressive "hit and run" artists, no matter how much energy they have.
Accomodation is really an issue with FKK World. If you want to do more than the usual "drop in by car, fuck some girls and hit the road again" there, it is somewhat difficult. I love to get into the mood by having a very good bottle of red wine before visiting a club, so I appreciate a decent hotel near the club. Right next to the Palace, there is a cool new hotel, "Fleming's". From FKK World, the next decent hotel is the Best Western "Steinsgarten", which is a relatively long and thus expensive taxi ride away. No way to retire for some time to your room, to gather new strength :-)
However, I've heard that you can book a room WITHIN FKK World, but only if you book a girl along with it.
Recently I have also heard that FKK World plans to build a hotel right next to the club, but the project seems to be objected by the locals.
I am pretty sure that you can reserve a room at World minus the girl. If memory serves me correctly, it is 100 euro and you have to reserve the room 2 hours before closing. It may also be that you can only use the room starting at closing and I think that you have to be up by 10:00 (maybe 11:00, it has been a while since I asked about this, so the details are a little fuzzy in my memory.) Breakfast the next day is included.
There are a number of good hotel possibilities in and around Giessen. I know that this has been posted before but it probably bears repeating.
As far as the wine goes, there are plenty of empty lots around Pohlheim where you can enjoy a bottle of Sneaky Pete, Boone's Farm or Maddog 20/20 ;-)))
Hotels--FKK-World, Pohlheim
Zum Grünen Baum
Schiffenbergstr. 5
Garbenteich
06404/ 7152
In the middle Pohlheim-Garbenteich
Gasthaus Häuser
Linden-Leihgestern
Tel. 06403/ 69111
ETAP Linden
Gewerbegebiet Luckebachtal
Gottlieb-Daimler Str. 8
35440 Linden
Tel: (+49) 06403/ 75 37 3
ca. 10 Min. from FKKW
Best Western Hotel Steinsgarten
Hein-Heckroth-Strasse 20
35390 Gießen
Telefon: ++49 (0) 641-38990
Telefax: ++49 (0) 641-3899200
info@steinsgarten.bestwestern.de
Hotel Am Ludwigsplatz
Ludwigsplatz 8,
35390 Giessen
Tel: + 49 0641 / 931130
Fax: + 49 0641 / 390499
http://www.hotel-am-ludwigsplatz.de/
Residenz Hotel Giessen
Wiesecker Weg 12
35396 Gießen
Tel +49 0641/ 39980
Fax +49 0641/ 399888
http://www.residenz-giessen.de/index.html
Cheers,
Dedalus, wine steward
Hey Mike,
I was waiting for you to perk up at the mention of her.
Yes, she is the cute little smart-ass that attracted your attention some time ago.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Tell her to SMS me, since her number has changet YET again!
Several of these ”guys” could be observed to hang around in FKK-World in week long efforts to watch their ”loved ones” at work.
Now I understand why they offer this VIP card where you can stay every day for one month! I think, this must be a PIMP special.LOL - must be. Sometimes you're getting the impression that every other guest is 'taking care of business'.
Which of course implies that not only the entry fee, but also a certain part of the 50€ is going to the club: We pay the girls, they pay the pimps and they give some money back to the club.
I had to witness a case recently when one of the EE girls was threatened massively after she announced that she wanted to break up with her 'manager/lover'. Since she wasn't shure if it's a bluff (and had nowhere else to go to anyway), the next day everything was 'good' again.
I enjoyed visits to World on Monday 10/23 and Thursday 10/26.
On Monday I arrived at around 3 and only stayed until around 7.
I had a nice session with Katya (Bulgarian) - Black hair, petite, A/B cup. She didn't remember me at first, but after some time together, remembered our meeting in April of this year. I would repeat with Katya (although I did not on Thursday). I have not seen any reports on Katya, so try her out guys.
Another session with a Bulgarian was great, I went for the CIM. This girls name was Jilly (Gilly?) and had only been in World for ~ 1 week.
This was enough for me, as the jetlag from US was kicking in.
I returned on Thursday. Katya immediately hit me up, but I really wanted to try some others out. I promised to see her later, but it did not happen.
Daniella from Romania - Damn was I glad I finally got to experience her. As soon as I saw the red boots and she said her name, I remembered many things from this forum (THANKS GUYS). Anyway, I got great treatment from D - she said she doesn't see many Americans anymore - she came up to me after I smiled at her, and originally thought me to be German. This was a great experience - I don't think I can add anything to what has already been said about D, but she did say that she was 30, has 2 kids and a man.
Well there were a couple women I REALLY wanted to try - one was a tall redhead (actually more strawberry blond) with a really cute face - I wonder if this is Olga? Anyway, I missed her several times, and then I saw her as she was walking out of the Club around 10:30PM. Can anyone confirm who this might be? - she typically hung out at the table 15 feet in front of the bar in the Wintergarten.
Pissed at missing her, I got sucked into a session with a really lame German blond named Elena - I think from Koln. No kissing, not very good BJ.
Another session with an OK Bulgarian whose name I forgot before leaving around 1:00AM. Is it just me, or are there a lot of Bulgarians these days?
I again missed my favorite Betty from Cuba - any news on her? And I think I missed a chance to talk to Cordelia on Monday. My loss I guess.
Appr. 2 weeks ago I had my first ever experience in a FKK and it was World that had the honour to welcome me, while I was in Frankfurt for business and had to travel home. What's better to have some nice time before driving back?
After paying the €65 I entered the house, undressed, showered and changed into the towel. Ready to explore the house. A drank at the bar and a quick lunch and walking around to see what's the offer, both the facilities as the girls ofcourse.
Great place and lots of girls giving attention. This is really a good place to boost your confidence. After a while I was joined on a couch by Bulgarian Jilly. Nice to talk with, but certainly nice to go to the room. Luckily I speak both English and German good enough (advantage of being from Holland, we have to learn all the languages) to have a good talk and to make clear what we both like. A long 69, her on top and missionary and she made me cum with her mouth. Great to get to know FKK this way.
Time to enjoy the facilities also. The sauna, the whirlpool and relaxing in the couches downstairs, watching some German football match. A short talk with some girls, but most were gone as it was clear that i needed some pause before going to a room again. Had a nice chat with a dark girl, but forgot her name. She liked the talking also when she knew I was not for more.
Getting back upstairs for a drink and then met Moldavian Snezcana (if i remembered well). Short talk, good kissing and then she asked to go for a room. We did and she did a great BBBJ. My finger was playing with her, although it was not allowed to finger her pussy. Well, then time for nice doggy and some other nice positions. I finished in doggy, looking into the mirror, seeing her pretty face.
Great thing about this place is that you can enjoy a good sauna, a nice dinner and some relaxing at the pool. Lots of time to get new energy and in the meantime enjoying the nice girls. Hungarian Audrey came to me to quick after my previous session, but we had a nice talk and time by time she just came by to say hello. After an hour of so she came back and we drank a soda together. She said ahe wanted to see if my energy was back and a long kiss and her hands made it no doubts, she felt I had energy again. I loved the session. She liked to please me and loved all positions. Half an hour later I came with her riding me.
Now it was getting close to 20pm and I had to drive more than 3 hours home, so I layed beside the pool for a short relaxing and to be ready for driving. Bulgarian Katya came to me and it was nice to hear she has lived in Holland. I promised her to be back with her next time I'm there, cause I knew for sure to get back here. I've read it's easy to get addicted to this place and now I know why.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Nick The G
11-06-06, 02:57
Daniella from Romania - Damn was I glad I finally got to experience her. As soon as I saw the red boots and she said her name, I remembered many things from this forum ..... Daniela did a public midnight fucking show on Saturday at the Halloween Party in FKK-WORLD.
Two men were allowed to fuck with her in public on stage for free. Daniela was really nerveous before the ”show” and had organized herself the first one of these men in advance to be sure that somebody would be onstage with her!
Directly after the first man had been processed, she walked around in the ”Wintergarten” looking for the second ”chance”. Several guys at the bar denied, but finally she found a guy somewhere else.
Despite her really energetic attempts, both men didn't come up with an erection on stage, funny or tragic, it was only licking and sucking without fucking in the end, the guys (and Daniela?) left more or less unsatisfied. It was strange to see these guys entering the stage struggling with taking off their towels.
As far as I can judge, Daniela really did a good ”porn show” and proved to be in her best condition, but I`m sure the results obtained weren't nice for her self understanding as the ”Queen of FKK-WORLD”!
A minute after Daniela and the second guy had finished unsuccessfully and left the stage, surprisingly german Jeanette took over with a muscular guy full of tattoes and a big prick. A little bit of a blow job with her sitting on stage and the guy standing in front of her gave the result needed to continue. She applied a condom to his fully erected prick and they started fucking. He could stand the public situation stress and they ”did it” , yielding a filled condom in doggy position, although the act itself looked pretty mechanical and a little bit like some funny aerobic sports demonstration with the guy waving hands from time to time at people in the Wintergarten.
You can imagine the face of the ”Queen”, coming back from the shower into the ”Wintergarten” again and seeing things successfully in progression!
Well, my opinion on this: if you really feel like being a ”Queen”, you don't need to fuck on stage! If, as a Queen, you need to fuck at all, only with a proven king as partner, but not desperately trying to find some servants to help with the job! (big grin).
Daniela told me minutes before the show, that she - making it a point of honour as fucking ”Queen of FKK-World” - felt obliged to perform because she was asked/payed by the management to do it.
Maybe next time in FKK-WORLD they will spend some money too on a really good porn actor to give her the right counterpart! Then it will be like a good show and not like going to the room, but without walls.
In summary: when sex like this takes over, eros is completely gone
In addition: lots of girls were there, not too many men, very good ratio indeed. Most of the new romanians were there.
Buffet was excellent.
Three different table dancers performing several times during the evening/night.
A lot of effort had been undertaken with regards to decoration to establish the right Halloween atmosphere everywhere in the building, super!
Had an eastern europe special topic evening with lots of excellent and profound conversation and more ... with soft and quiet Daniela from Romania, beautiful and soft-tongued Maria from Bulgaria and with lovely and wild Adrienn from Hungary (wild dancing included in the Wintergarten).
In summary: when sex like this takes over, eros is completely goneHow true. I think this sums up the usual 'quality' and entertainment factor of such performances pretty nicely.
Anyone now about the action from 27 dec to 2 jan?Or have all the girls went back too there countries for christmas?Can anyone ask Daniella about shes working in that period?
Houellebecq
11-09-06, 20:04
Guys,
I did a celebration orgy with me, myself and I in FKK World last Monday. Arrived full of fine Burgundy wine on about 3 pm and left half dead at about 2 am. Spent about 700 EUR on girls (ouch ! fuck that ATM in the lobby :-)). Sorry that I have absolutely no brain for names, but I met a load of Bulgarians, a Hungarian and even a quite cute French (!) girl. The latter performed on a bar later in the evening.
Quality of service was changing, of course, but no real dropouts. One girl was really excellent. Shame on me that I don't remember her name. But there are so many of them.
After checking out all the major FKKs I think that I have found World as my favourite. Every time you take a walk around you can find new pretty faces (and the rest of course), even on a Monday afternoon. The place is VERY clean and spacious. Well, I guess it's all personal taste, so be happy with your Oase :-)
I feel that I definitely have to repeat this experience, as soon as I have saved enough money. If anyone should have mercy on me, donations are very welcome :-)
Regards
H.
Gents,
After hitting Bernd's the day before, Friday was for FKKW. I arrived at 5 pm, and there was a very good selection of girls present. At least 30, perhaps more than 40. I recognized several of my old favorites. Francesca was behind the upstairs bar again. Excellent, it felt like coming home!
I saw a girl that I was almost postive was Olga, the tall Russian red head with the world-class BJ technique. But something looked a bit different; and I could not quite put my finger on it. I made eye contact with her upstairs as I walked past the table where whe was hanging with Irina and another girl. Then I walked downstairs and plopped myself onto one of the lounge chairs. Sure enough, not even two minutes had passes, and she showed up. She had some sort of scarf around her hip, which was also unusual (normally she had always been completely naked). As she came out of the hallway, she smiled at me, and I motioned her to come over to me. I asked what her name was. Olga. I said "prove it!" and held out a finger. She smiled, put it into her mouth and switched on the 'vibrator'. If you had the pleasure to experience Olga, you know exactly what I mean :). Bingo, this is OLGA! Yeah! Off to the coach next ot the downstairs fireplace we went, and I got about 15 minutes worth of the special Olga treatment. Then on to the room, where she was her usual excellent self again.
Rest period. Some chatting with Francesca at the bar. Then downstairs to the cocktail bar for some Vodka-Red Bulls. (I got hooked on this juice in Rio). Jaqueline got drunk with me. I know, I know ... yes, it was THAT Jacqueline. Big deal, I took her to a room and had a good PSE with her. Apparently the booze helped both of us.
Then upstairs to the bar again. I did my best to talk Francesca into going to a room with me. I did not score, but we had a lot of fun flirting. She told me she was not beyond shagging me, but that she could not leave the bar alone for such a long time. I asked to to get a sub. She just smiled. Clearly she was pleased with my coming on to her, but I did not get into here pants, either.
So I went with Vicky, the little mulatta Brazilian dynamo. I love Barzilian women. Vicky was not up to par with my best experiences in Rio, but still very good GFE and so many changes of position that I lost count. A good work-out!
As I came back from the room and went back to the bar after my shower, I saw Rosa (one of the girls on the cleaning staff) behind the bar, instead of Francesca. Shit! Did I miss my opportunity with Franzi? 15 minutes later she came back and took over the bar again. I asked her if I just had blown a golden opportunity. She told me (with a glint in her eye) that she had taken a half-hour break and had looked for me. I am pretty sure that she was just pulling my leg, but who knows ... I will keep trying again next time.
OK, one more to cap off the night. But who? The question answered itself in a hurry. Jasmine came over to the bar and asked Francesca to put on some music. Since I was sitting at the open end of the bar, where the juke box pc is located, I got a really good look at Jasmine (from France). And I liked what I saw: she is of medium height, very pretty slim figure with nice-sized natural breast. Shoulder-long brown hair combed straight back. She was wearing long red boots and nothign else. But of course you have to play these things cool. The chase is half the fun. I just smiled at her and did not say a word. She smiled back and returned to the dance podium, rubbed down the pole with a towel, and then started dancing to the next three songs. I tried to keep eye contact with her as good as I could, and at times it seemed that she was just dancing for me.
As I have written in some of my Rio and also Oase reports: I have a thing for doinking the strippers. So I was getting into a real good mood. After she was done with her show, she came back to the bar, and stood across the corner from me. She was wiping the sweat off, and we exchanged lusty glances. While she was enjoying her drink and a cigarette (yes, I took one as well when she offered), some guy came over, stood very close to her, just groped her breast, and asked her to come to a room with him. He was standing between her and me, with his back to me. Over his shoulder, Jasmine just motioned with her mouth and expressed disgust over the less-than-subtle mating ritual that the 'gentleman' has selected. And then she motioned with one eyebrown away from the bar. I just nodded my head ever so slightly (you don't want to give up your cool in this situations ...), and wordlessly both of us simply walked away from the bar and into a room.
Obviously the dude's interference had deprived me of the slow-dance test drive with Jasmine. But I had a good feeling about this. And I was not disappointed. She gave me excellent GFE. And since she is really a trained dancer, she knows how to use her body. Very definitely I will repeat, if given the chance. She is not just extremely good in the sack, but she is also fun to chat with (in German, English, or French, by the way).
FKKW is just the best place for me in all of Germany. End of discussion!
Oh, and one more thing: here and there I hear a complaint about lack of service at the upstairs bar. But when I chatted with Francesca I was able to see just how much work she does. She is amazingly efficient, handling the bar, selecting the music, and clearing the glasses from all of the tables in the Wintergarten! I made a point to mention this at the reception. It would be nice if others do the same. (Just a suggestion...)
euro
Over his shoulder, Jasmine just motioned with her mouth and expressed disgust over the less-than-subtle mating ritual that the 'gentleman' has selected. And then she motioned with one eyebrown away from the bar. I just nodded my head ever so slightly (you don't want to give up your cool in this situations ...), and wordlessly both of us simply walked away from the bar and into a room.
Guys, take a lesson ! Nice to read you again Euro, and I wish I could be with you at FKK World (and meet Jasmine by the way, as you seem again to have found a real gem). I've noticed also that even Bernd's did not change your opinion about your favorite club.
Routard
Nice to read you again Euro, and I wish I could be with you at FKK World (and meet Jasmine by the way, as you seem again to have found a real gem). I've noticed also that even Bernd's did not change your opinion about your favorite club.
Hi Routard,
Yes, it would have been fun if we could have been there together. Jasmine would have been exactly to your taste. She was really wild. And I have the suck and bite marks on my bicepts to prove it :).
euro
world is a good place, but not the best in every aspect imo. one advantage here (and in palace) compared to other places is that the girls walk around showing their beautiful bodies, and don’t just sit on their asses. on the other hand, the girls quickly take off if i say ‘nein’ in palace. in world some girls cling like leeches, especially if they are not so hot. anyone has some good tips on how to get rid of these leeches?
one of the girls that refused to take off was ines. i remembered having seen her name in the forum. not sure if it was good or bad though. my (flawed) deduction was that a girl this ugly must be a great girl to fuck, why else would anyone fuck her and admit to it with a report?:rolleyes: as you guessed, she turned out to be horrible experience for my taste. maximum speed and no 'gefühl'. i have since confirmed that there were bad reviews in the forum. you live and you learn…
world is a good place, but not the best in every aspect imo. one advantage here (and in palace) compared to other places is that the girls walk around showing their beautiful bodies, and don’t just sit on their asses. on the other hand, the girls quickly take off if i say ‘nein’ in palace. in world some girls cling like leeches, especially if they are not so hot. anyone has some good tips on how to get rid of these leeches?
one of the girls that refused to take off was ines. i remembered having seen her name in the forum. not sure if it was good or bad though. my (flawed) deduction was that a girl this ugly must be a great girl to fuck, why else would anyone fuck her and admit to it with a report?:rolleyes: as you guessed, she turned out to be horrible experience for my taste. maximum speed and no 'gefühl'. i have since confirmed that there were bad reviews in the forum. you live and you learn…
"animieren" as the germans call it is not allowed at certain clubs, somehow tolerated at others. it does get annoying.
you can try to ignore them but somehow some of them don't get the message.
i can make a list of clubs where it isn't allowed but these clubs wouldn't be in hessen.
Anyone has some good tips on how to get rid of these leeches?
Try this one: Tell her you are waiting for your friend. She will continue hanging on until you tell her the reason you need to meet your friend is because he has your money. I will promise you she will let go within two seconds.
I have used that one several time on the African girls in the Spanish club scene (those are the ultimate leeches). Never fails there. I have yet to find a leech in FKK that I can't get rid off by just saying I am relaxing and not ready to have sex with her.
Chivaz
Well, yes, some girls do this at FKKW. And you are right, the uglier they are, the more they try this. The oriental looking girl with extremely small breasts and fat belly is foremost among them.
But hey, I always tell them no in a polite way. "I just came back fro the room, and I need a break". End of story.
euro
Nick The G
11-25-06, 23:54
Anyone has some good tips on how to get rid of these leeches? Take it as a challenge: it's a good training how to establish and defend your borders!
Just say, with a firm voice:
- I've spent all my money
- Sorry, no more money to spend!
- no more money!
- No, I don't want you!
- Please leave me alone!
You'll get instant relief!
Don't give answers that are longer than three to seven words!
In severe cases repeat your short sentence using exactly the same words.
Never say ”later” if you don't really mean it!
Nick The G
11-26-06, 00:28
The oriental looking girl with extremely small breasts and fat belly is foremost among them.True! She has a very long training in this, my experience with her clinging behaviour goes back to ”Atlantis” days.
But if you look at it from the other perspective: indeed one of the very good and challenging partners for the ”I'm setting up borders” training! Make the best out of your stay at the club, improve your repertoire of effective behaviours.
But hey, I always tell them no in a polite way. "I just came back fro the room, and I need a break". End of story.euro End of story? No! Not with the above mentioned women and many others!
I assume, you don't intend to insult someone, so why bother? You just have to be clear in your communication, who really wants to hear those fairy tale like excuses with the same quality like ”later”?
Just image you would work there in the club as one of these women. And you would meet all those nice & so polite guys every day and hear them lying to you in the same way all the time!
the first time i was at wildenrath the women were allowed to "animate" and one was particularly aggressive.
i was sitting on a couch and this egyptian woman, sunny, sits beside me. pretty soon she is all over me. she drapes her legs on me, gets into my lap. i keep saying i need an erholungspause but she won't relent. she keeps saying we make such a good pair that we should both go into a room. i keep saying no and before long we are practically wrestling on the couch with her trying to get her hands on my dick (picture how strange this looks!).
talk about aggressive!
i made a note to myself not to return.. but a couple of years down the road i did and it was like night and day. the women sat back and didn't approach you; you had to approach them.
nice, quiet and relaxed - thats how it should be, none of this hektik.
contrast this to phg which is like watching a crowd go through grand central station at rush hour.
Take it as a challenge: it's a good training how to establish and defend your borders!
Just say, with a firm voice:
- I've spent all my money
- Sorry, no more money to spend!
- no more money!
- No, I don't want you!
- Please leave me alone!
You'll get instant relief!
Don't give answers that are longer than three to seven words!
In severe cases repeat your short sentence using exactly the same words.
Never say ”later” if you don't really mean it!
-- "I am waiting for the results of my AIDS test to come back...But in the meantime, for your own good, stay away, I don't want to risk infecting you with the virus..."
-- "I am waiting for the results of my AIDS test to come back...But in the meantime, for your own good, stay away, I don't want to risk infecting you with the virus..."
"I'm out of funds. How about a free session?" Then you can turn the tables and chase her around.
Thanks, these were good phrases on how to get rid of leeches.
Let’s add a twist to it, and make it a scenario that I’ve also experienced. I see a girl that is far from a 10, but I don’t write her off from a distance because you never know… But something puts me off when we are talking. It can be poor complexion or cold hands. Then I’ve tried lame excuses such as “maybe later”, “too tired” or “you remind me too much of my ex-girlfriend”, but nothing seems to do the trick with the leeches. To say I just came from a room doesn't cut it in case I have a hard on from her fondling (they can be hard to stop, as Jackyo told). Since I almost invited the girl and then disdain her, it feels a bit rude to tell her “please leave me alone”. What would Nick The G say in this scenario?
As a side note, when I have said “too tired, maybe later” and really meant it, no girl so far has tried again. Either she assumes I don’t want her, or she is too proud to ask again?
I'll second the thanks for good idea of phrases to use on leeches, since I'm planning to visit one of the big three the next time I go to Germany. But a question: should one not suspect that the girls share gossip amongst themselves? If one claims a disease, or a lack of funds, as a reason for avoiding a session, could not that be a problem later with the girl one really does want a session with?
I'll second the thanks for good idea of phrases to use on leeches, since I'm planning to visit one of the big three the next time I go to Germany. But a question: should one not suspect that the girls share gossip amongst themselves? If one claims a disease, or a lack of funds, as a reason for avoiding a session, could not that be a problem later with the girl one really does want a session with?
Hey man, don't take the suggestions too seriously. So called leachers are not a problem as such in the FKKs although there might be one or two that can be annoying. Be firm about not committing to a session if you don't like her, but be nice about it though and you will be fine.
Chivaz
Nein danke.
Two more words- kaput, schatz.
beffen the polite
Day 1 at palace. (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=535240&postcount=1423)
Day 2 at World
Day 3 at Oase (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=535248&postcount=1139)
Day 4 at Palace again (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=535259&postcount=1424)
After my first FKK experience at palace, the next day I set out for oase. But my gps left me lost. I consulted my routard notes and found that i had left the oase driving directions behind. So I set my hertz neverlost magellen for world - it left me about 1/2 kilometer down the road, but I found it.
World is in the forest with extensive outdoor areas. A monger from luxembourg told me it was great in the summer.
What else was different from palace? Much bigger. You can rent a robe for 22e instead of free. The food was more varied and better. The mens locker room IS the hallway into the club, so girls walk thru it all the time - I thought this helped to dissipate the feeling of being in the high school gym.
After my comical and expensive initial steps at palace, today I was cool. I waited over an hour and passed on 10 girls before I found one I had read about here.
Yana from russia - pale blue eyes, blonde hair, shy look. Then I lost sight of her for a while. Waited patiently. She was in a group of 3 girls again. Spoke no real english. In the room, a perfect gfe. Went a long time. 100 euros.
having continued my final string of good experiences at palace, I met more girls. Watched an incredible dancer (rumanian-italian). Since I had only 4 hours sleep, I curled up in the kino for a nap. waved off one cute blonde with glasses. Slept.
awoke to see a petite pixy fantasy with short curly dark hair. Vicky from sao paolo, brazil. Remembered nice things about her on isg. We spoke spanish. "esperando para vicky" I am waiting for vicky. She woke me up with world class kisses. After 20 minutes of foreplay in the kino, under the disinterested gaze of a short, fat, naked woman, vicky moved us to an adjoining room. Incredible sex, very active, then tried to finish with cim, but there was no more leche in zing after 9 girls. This bothered her, not me.
At dinner i finally had a chance to sit next to the slim dancer with the long black hair. in person, her personality was not as mesmerizing as her dancing. Perhaps next visit-for now, in my depleted state, i need totally sympathetic girls. Seated on my other side was melissa-rumanian, built, central dancer of the lesbian show. At dinner, another girl put whipped cream on melissa's breast, which i licked off. I am amazed how quickly my normally shy self slipped into this debauchrry (eating schnitzel and licking whipped cream off a beautiful girl).
I met olga from russia-red head tallest girl there. Also romini, very tall. Also jasmine, mentioned here. Intense. I tried to meet every girl, except a few slim, black-haired rumanian girls who seemed interchangeable (perhaps i am doing them a disservice).
I started talking to a nice looking, but not stunning, girl with shoulder-length hair, katya from bulgaria. One beautiful child by ex-boyfriend from caribbean. Moved downstairs to the tv lounge for initial cuddling and compared notes on behavior of men during the world cup (no sex during a match-in st maarten i found this a good time to get the best girls).
Waited in hallway with 2 more couples for a free room. While kissing, listened to a girl moaning and screaming-most rooms have curtains, not doors.short wait. Very gfe session with long daty, apparently appreciated (who can be sure?) i am surpised that i can still get hard-i am not young.
I figure i am about done, but i am not. Talk to more beauties-ruby, etc...go to the bar ifor a coke. Reach past melissa for my drink. Kiss on cheek, complement her pole dance. Local punter volunteers that she is a wonderful girl. Talk, discuss my weakened state, plan suitable session, retire to room. Massage and daty for her, massage and dfk and bbbj for me. In the bar and at dinner, she seemed raunchy, but it was really just playful. In the room, totally affectionate.
I check my locker. Only about 75 e left. Yesterday i took a big wad of 50s without counting them. Today i only brought a little more than i thought my body could stand.
Tired, sleepy, i still sat next to girl from hamburg with big tits, half polish, forget her name. Good english. Long talk, asked if she would help me spend my last 50-we did.
All 5 girls were different, but perfect in their own way.
-zing
Hessen Bub
11-27-06, 18:43
"I've just been in the room and did not have the time to take a shower since."
"I am waiting for another girl."
"I do have an appointment with another girl."
"You're not my type."
Hessen Bub
I tried to meet every girl, except a few slim, black-haired rumanian girls who seemed interchangeable (perhaps i am doing them a disservice).
-zing
If you are into this look, you are in seventh heaven at this club. There are so many of them who all look like they were made of the same mold kind in a factory somewhere.
The intellectual rebuff:
"I'll have to think about it."
The theatrical rebuff:
"I'm waiting for Godot."
The slightly miffed rebuff:
"I get very upset when people try to force me into doing things."
The seriously deranged rebuff (use a Jack Nicholson "The Shining" smile):
"Johnny doesn't want to play right now, OKAY?"
On Wednesday 22/11 it was time for my second FKK visit and again I was at World in Pohlheim. Why World? I was driving from Holland, so the NRW clubs are closer, but also World is only 3 hours driving and I liked the atmosphere the first time I was there. Big place and nice girls, so also a great place to relax in the sauna, swimming pool and whirlpool. But of course most important are the girls.
My GPS brought me to Pohlheim-Garbenteich (I love those German highways, just pull my gas and with 180 it’s a quick drive) in 3 hours and I parked the car and went inside. A shower and ready for paradise. It’s great to pass the curtain and enter the place, although it was 2:30pm there were already enough girls to give my eyes a very entertaining view. First I needed a lunch, so eating a bit, watching the girls pass by and within minutes I felt home again.
After lunch I went downstairs to lay down on one of the chairs besides the pool. It’s great to relax and to check the girls and to make your targets for the day. Some girls ask if you need some company, but answers like ‘I just arrived and want to relax a bit first’ or ‘I’m not ready yet’ made it for now. When you are in longer it’s no problem to say that you just came from a room or that you are tired, 99% of the girls understand this and leave you.
One girl that came by was Vicky from Brazil (21, Brazil, +/- 1.65, dark hair) and I remembered her name from this forum and asked her to join me. This girl sat on my lap and knew how to entertain me. She definitely made clear what she wanted and we kissed and played a bit on the chair. She isn’t the most attractive looking girl, but her eyes show how playful she can be and when you are with her, she can make you crazy. After ten minutes we went to a room and continued the play. She loved the BBBJ and I played with her pussy and oh boy, she was wet. I wanted to lick her too, but this was too much for me, I wanted to fuck her. Vicky certainly wasn’t interested in soft and tender moves, she wanted it hard so I did. My hands were on her breast while she was on top of me. We changed position into missionary and I felt she made me so hot I had to cum. I was able to postpone it for now, but 5 minutes later I couldn’t hold it anymore and I did cum. No reason to stop playing. Vicky took of the rubber and I played with her tits, we kissed and I played with her pussy. This was how we spent the last 10 minutes, a very good after sales of this Brazilian hotty.
It was time to get some energy again. So I was drinking something, relaxing on a chair and the not so warm sauna for me now. After the whirlpool I went upstairs and saw Jeanette (21, Germany, +/- 1.65, blond, glasses) again. We saw each other a few times during the day, but first I just came in and later I just was with Vicky, but now I had energy again and she smiled to me and that got me. We did a drink at the bar and went to a room. Just as Vicky she’s not so tall, but I like that. Those smaller girls attract me for I don’t know what reason. We lay on the bed and she started BBBJ. She was good and when she asked me what I wanted to do and I was thinking a bit she told me she could do this for hours, so why should I stop her? She did a great job and I loved the feeling of her mouth, lips and tongue on and around my dick, while my hands were playing with her body, her nice tits and her pussy. I decided it was time to do some other positions and so we did. We ended doggy style, but I was surprised to see how she managed to turn her back and kept looking at me while fucking doggy. I came with her and we ended with a few minutes talking and playing with our naked bodies.
After two sessions I felt a bit tired, but with all the beautiful girls around I could not let myself go outside now. So I had my dinner, enjoyed some relaxing in the TV room downstairs and went for sauna, this time the hot one. Ten minutes is the maximum for me and from sauna I went to the whirlpool again. Nice and very relaxing place to watch the girls pass by. Normally the girls don’t like to be in the whirlpool, but this time I was first joined by a guy and a pretty girl and later another girl joined us. It was busy in the whirlpool, but hey, why should I complain about two naked beautiful girls in the whirlpool. I was taking a bit with Nadia (21, Germany, +/- 1.65, dark hair). She told me it was her first day here, after working in Oase. I loved her shining eyes and sweet smile and when she moved closer to me I felt that she would be my 3rd girl of the day. We talked, smiled and she started to feel my body and it took not long to end at my dick. She played with me, we kissed and I felt her body in the water also. It was great to sit there together 15 minutes but it was time for more. We took a quick shower and found a nice room. We continued where we had left in the whirlpool. I fucked her doggy and missionary and she wanted to let me finish in her mouth. She did great, but I could not cum again, which did not bother me, but she felt guilty about it. I told her I had a great time with her and luckily she still had her precious smile for me.
I sat down again to retain some energy before driving home. Another nice day at World behind me.
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