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JohnaCarson
10-08-15, 04:30
At the suggestion of some forum I decided to divert my business trip to Manila for for nights.
I joined a well know website. Put up on photo. Explained what I was looking for. And OMG. After leaving my profile open for 24 hours I had over 100 hits. Many from the.
Provinces. But some real gems from the Manila area.
I chatted many of them up for the next couple of weeks. A real pain in the ass. But managed to get the interest of many 15 candidates. From the Manila area. And low.
Behold to make a long story short. 4 girls in 4 nights. Wide variety in age. But they were each very open minded and willing to perform any act. A couple were quite naive and.
More than willing to learn. And could they learn.
Not one time was money even mentioned. Not once.
I prepared and brought some chocolate which was suggested by one candidate. The gesture went a long way.
A recap.
I arrive at 11 pm and a woman I had begun to chat with late. Aged 46. I told I was unable to see due to prior commitments. She begged me to give her some time so she.
Agreed to wait in the lobby of the hotel and stay with me from my arrival to the hotel until seven in the morning. Fucked her a few time and could not keep her off my cock.
WONDERFUL welcome from a matured lady. She begged to come back for any time possible if I could make time for her.
Number 2. 26.5 feet for so 110 lbs. . nice tits and great ass. She arrive at 8 am. We fucked until noon. She wanted to continue I was hungry. Went to Greenbelt to eat.
And then back for more and a nap. Up at 7 pm. Fucked twice then to dinner. Did not not sleep much and she was gone at 10 am the next day.
Number 3. 32 very fit. Short. Exotic looking. Educated and and had MBA. Worked for a well know computer company. Had foreign and husband. Now divorced and she was.
So horny she stripped me upon entering the room. Grabbed the condom and put my cock in her ass and squierted cum. Unreal and the rest was without saying.
Incredible.
Number 4. Not this is the keeper. Very white skin. Great body. 36 on grown daughter. Smart and well employed. The nicest natural tits I have ever seen. No undue.
Sagging and perky nipples. Shaved Bush. 110 lbs. About 5. 5 feet and not much experience. Of course first white guy. She was a incredible student. I will give little.
Detail as she is my keeper and will visit her several times a year. I told her I did not love her but lusted for her and she agreed.
Overall the experience was unbelievable. I am no novice but I must admit the best of the best in many years.
Guys. Try it. You will not be disappointed.
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BrainDrain
10-08-15, 06:05
These are all girls I either talk to or talked to.Your examples totally explain why we have so much fun in the Philippines.
There is a total difference about the value that cultures put on sex. For many western men, we had to date, grovel and finally 'score' to get some sex, often having to love first, engage, marry etc.
For the pinay they put very little attachment onto sex and will give it away for free.
Like you point out thought, mention having (and supporting?) a baby and that's a whole new level.
BD.
Makeupaname
10-08-15, 08:22
Your examples totally explain why we have so much fun in the Philippines.Except he recently posted that he has never been to the Philippines.
Great Muta
10-08-15, 17:56
Except he recently posted that he has never been to the Philippines.
I've been a student and just started working last year. I'm not rich.
I was recently faced with a decision:
A) Spend $4,000 to go to the Philippines and sex 10+ girls
B) Use the same money and invest in a rental house
I chose B. My income just got raised $600/month and all I gotta do is sit on my ass. So suck my balls like the filipinas will.
I love how "you haven't been there" means I don't know what I'm doing. "No man, you might have 5 girls sending you naked pics and camming with you every night, but you don't know what you're doing. Learn to pay girls to sex you instead of getting it for free".
Great Muta
10-08-15, 18:05
Your examples totally explain why we have so much fun in the Philippines.
There is a total difference about the value that cultures put on sex. For many western men, we had to date, grovel and finally 'score' to get some sex, often having to love first, engage, marry etc.
For the pinay they put very little attachment onto sex and will give it away for free.
Like you point out thought, mention having (and supporting?) a baby and that's a whole new level.
BD.I agree. I'm supposed to beg and bribe a 3 out of 10 in the US for a date, while I can go online and get a 7+ to do whatever I please for free.
I will never have a kid on purpose unless they are rich. If I have a kid, I have less time, less money and more stress. The things I want give me more time, more money and less stress.
Your examples totally explain why we have so much fun in the Philippines.
There is a total difference about the value that cultures put on sex. For many western men, we had to date, grovel and finally 'score' to get some sex, often having to love first, engage, marry etc.
For the pinay they put very little attachment onto sex and will give it away for free.
Like you point out thought, mention having (and supporting?) a baby and that's a whole new level.
BD.Right now in Phi. Will put in a report.
In America you can score on the first date. Only problem is there is a age factor involved. Girls will not fuck anybody outside their age group unless you are a sugar daddy.
Phi girls whether they are bargirls or normal girls have no qualm about fucking, being seen with, holding hands and walking with guys old enough to be their father or grandfather. Even the family has little or no objection.
Sexist very liberated once you get to know the girl. It will be non stop sex. This is why I love Phi.
Having babies is normal even without a father or a sustainable job. Usually parents, aunts etc help. And there is always Angeles city.
GoodEnough
10-09-15, 05:22
Right now in Phi. Will put in a report.
In America you can score on the first date. Only problem is there is a age factor involved. Girls will not fuck anybody outside their age group unless you are a sugar daddy.
Phi girls whether they are bargirls or normal girls have no qualm about fucking, being seen with, holding hands and walking with guys old enough to be their father or grandfather. Even the family has little or no objection.
Sexist very liberated once you get to know the girl. It will be non stop sex. This is why I love Phi.
Having babies is normal even without a father or a sustainable job. Usually parents, aunts etc help. And there is always Angeles city.While true for a specific segment of society--specifically families trapped in poverty and with little or no education--the notion of easy sex, relaxed attitudes and disregard for age are not applicable to the wealthier, better educated strata of society here. In fact, families belonging to the "A" or "be" socio-economic classes would likely be repulsed by the notion of their daughters having sexual relationships with men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers, and by the idea of out-of-wedlock children. The problem of making sweeping generalizations is that others with equally little knowledge about the country may assume them to be true and actions based on these assumptions can lead to serious consequences. If anyone out there in cyber land wants to test this hypothesis, I'd suggest hanging around the campuses of Ateneo, UP Diliman or De La Salle, and see how long it takes, if you approach any of the ladies there, before you're bodily thrown off campus.
So yes, Sammon is correct in many cases, for families struggling to escape poverty and / or for families incapable of providing better lives for their daughters. However, Angeles and / or Burgos and their equivalents are not representative of the entire country, which tends to be much more conservative than the prior post would assume.
I'm not trying to be anyone's moral arbiter here. People can do what they like and behave as they like. I'm just trying to point out that there may be consequences attached to acting on assumptions that are inaccurate in many cases, and that are based on insights garnered by guys who visit the country for two weeks at a time.
GE.
Anybody that might just be physically removed from campus would be incredibly lucky.
Most mongers never meet anyone outside the subsegment of society that is targeting them, I have seen this in Brazil and Thailand where I am involved professionally. Can you score with A / BS there? Yes for sure, but it is under the same circumstances you would in the white, christian, western world.
In Brazil I had a relationship with a former coworker, roughly half my age, she was a management consultant, coming from one of the best engineering schools in Brazil, she was in the 75 k-100 k USD salary range. But this was as messy and painful as any normal (I. E. Non-mongering) relationship.
In Thailand I am a good friend (we worked together in London) of a granddaughter of a former prime minister (coup one, not democratic) anyone approaching her like a bar girl would be on a world of hurt very quickly.
I have noticed that many people in mongering destinations suffer from an acute tunnel vision syndrome, it is kind of cute.
While true for a specific segment of society--specifically families trapped in poverty and with little or no education--the notion of easy sex, relaxed attitudes and disregard for age are not applicable to the wealthier, better educated strata of society here. In fact, families belonging to the "A" or "be" socio-economic classes would likely be repulsed by the notion of their daughters having sexual relationships with men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers, and by the idea of out-of-wedlock children. The problem of making sweeping generalizations is that others with equally little knowledge about the country may assume them to be true and actions based on these assumptions can lead to serious consequences. If anyone out there in cyber land wants to test this hypothesis, I'd suggest hanging around the campuses of Ateneo, UP Diliman or De La Salle, and see how long it takes, if you approach any of the ladies there, before you're bodily thrown off campus.
So yes, Sammon is correct in many cases, for families struggling to escape poverty and / or for families incapable of providing better lives for their daughters. However, Angeles and / or Burgos and their equivalents are not representative of the entire country, which tends to be much more conservative than the prior post would assume.
I'm not trying to be anyone's moral arbiter here. People can do what they like and behave as they like. I'm just trying to point out that there may be consequences attached to acting on assumptions that are inaccurate in many cases, and that are based on insights garnered by guys who visit the country for two weeks at a time.
GE.
Makeupaname
10-10-15, 09:53
I love how "you haven't been there" means I don't know what I'm doing. "No man, you might have 5 girls sending you naked pics and camming with you every night.This is "The Philippines" section. You are not doing anything in the PI, and have never done anything in the PI.
I've been a student and just started working last year. I'm not rich.
"No man, you might have 5 girls sending you naked pics and camming with you every night, but you don't know what you're doing. Learn to pay girls to sex you instead of getting it for free".Congratulations young man if you think camming with your girls from halfway around the world for free while your jerk off is an accomplishment then god bless you. At your age as a young student you should be nailing young girls for real in your home country and whetting your noodle at home. Thats what I did at your age.
Yes you have nothing to contribute if you haven't been there other than to the pen pals section frankly. If you haven't been there that's a better place to express your thoughts.
You made the right decision not to to go for sure.
Pleasure cruises to the Phils cannot be fully appreciated by a western man until you are 40 to 50+ and have had enough of the bullshit associated with spoiled western women. By then if you have enough disposable income or your work takes you there as some of the habitual posters here, you will as a middle aged man be able to appreciate young ladies treating you like your first dreamy high school GF did and with the same tight body to match. Even if they are pretending so what? They are damn good at it.
So yes camming with them as a young man close to thier age for free while you pleasure yourself would be pretty easy if you are reasonably fit but it informs us very little.
The Phils is best appreciated by middle aged western men who can no longer attract the girls of their youth but are Peter Pans who never really settled into the bourgeoisie norm of spending their soft middle age with some woman who could pass for thier cousin.
Its best to wait until you are much older, have your kids already if you are so inclined and get that out of your system. And for god sake get a vasectomy if you are not a strict condom user because they are like the sirens that once tempted Jason of the argonauts of lore to make sure your seed finds purchase in thier fertile nubile soil.
While true for a specific segment of society--specifically families trapped in poverty and with little or no education--the notion of easy sex, relaxed attitudes and disregard for age are not applicable to the wealthier, better educated strata of society here. In fact, families belonging to the "A" or "be" socio-economic classes would likely be repulsed by the notion of their daughters having sexual relationships with men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers, and by the idea of out-of-wedlock children. The problem of making sweeping generalizations is that others with equally little knowledge about the country may assume them to be true and actions based on these assumptions can lead to serious consequences. If anyone out there in cyber land wants to test this hypothesis, I'd suggest hanging around the campuses of Ateneo, UP Diliman or De La Salle, and see how long it takes, if you approach any of the ladies there, before you're bodily thrown off campus.
So yes, Sammon is correct in many cases, for families struggling to escape poverty and / or for families incapable of providing better lives for their daughters. However, Angeles and / or Burgos and their equivalents are not representative of the entire country, which tends to be much more conservative than the prior post would assume.
I'm not trying to be anyone's moral arbiter here. People can do what they like and behave as they like. I'm just trying to point out that there may be consequences attached to acting on assumptions that are inaccurate in many cases, and that are based on insights garnered by guys who visit the country for two weeks at a time.
GE.Powerful or well off families would also prefer a local or someone from their province (especially chinoys) over a foreigner. So many of you guys would need to be extremely lucky to get "in".
MrWoolyBooly
10-13-15, 04:39
The problem of making sweeping generalizations is that others with equally little knowledge about the country may assume them to be true and actions based on these assumptions can lead to serious consequences. If anyone out there in cyber land wants to test this hypothesis, I'd suggest hanging around the campuses of Ateneo, UP Diliman or De La Salle, and see how long it takes, if you approach any of the ladies there, before you're bodily thrown off campus.Greetings Mr Enough, what you say is 100% true. There are many intelligent, well off, beautiful, confident women in the Philippines who have no need to settle for anything but their ideal guy. (Dare I say there is more class snobbery in the Philippines than in most Western countries?) However, statistically the wealthiest two tiers of Filipino society you describe are a miniscule part of the population. Anybody who meets, say, a theoretical sample of 100 random Pinays would meet a lot (50? I defer to the more knowledgeable) of women either desperate for survival or willing to risk a heckuva lot for a chance at a "better life". Add to that the small minority of "liberated" and "open minded" women from the generally much more conservative Filipino versions of middle and upper class. With all of that together isn't it fair to make a few general observations about men's possibilities? Of course by no means are "all" Pinays available, but if the odds weren't much more in our favor the Philippines would no see many of us return. Even if Burgos St, AC and LA Cafe disappeared, it's still fish in a barrell whether looking for short-term or long-term companionship. I don't deal with the 1% in the Philippines, but with the middle class a civilized Western guy who is or can pretend to be respectful, professional, (financially) "stable" and can endure some excruciating family socializing can get lots of amazing girls. Maybe not a generation younger, but half of one for sure. Maybe my experience is not representative. I think you've spent much more time there. But I call it like I've seen it.
Of course guys who generalize about the country's ladies from the few Pinays who will flash a guy through a wank session sounds like a guy who can't get. Nevermind, don't want to be rude LOL I am puzzled by a guy who self-describes as having "been a student" (presumably a young man) but who has to "to beg and bribe a 3 out of 10 in the US for a date".
Philippians women or Thailand women which is better from your experience and reason why?
Wicked Roger
10-14-15, 18:33
Philippians women or Thailand women which is better from your experience and reason why?2 FRs both question (albeit on different sides of the world).
Answer: why not come to the Philippines and Thailand, try some, see what you think, write some detailed FRs and then we will know.
But be careful as the streets are dangerous and not for the faint hearted. Maybe still to the casinos you asked about in the other FR?
AussieGaigin
10-20-15, 21:53
Philippians women or Thailand women which is better from your experience and reason why?"Better" for / at what?
Philippians women or Thailand women which is better from your experience and reason why?From a personal standpoint, it's a good question, but as a public question it's rather silly.
There are a hundred different reasons why Thai women are better and there are just as many reasons why Filipinas are better. But none of that helps to decide which is better for you. To make it more difficult, you will probably find differences between girls In AC and girls in Cebu, and you'll find differences between Bangkok and Phuket.
The only way you'll find the answer is to experience it for yourself, and isn't that better than someone else giving you the answer?
Lately I have 2 Angeles area gfs bugging me that they need the HPV vaccine. Both are in thier early 20's 1 already worked in a bar and neither are close to virgin. So now Angeles doctors are trying to push that vaccine on girls with a source of foriegner cash. What a crock of typical filipino BS. Its 3 shots for like 3500 each.
I try to send them to the websites to get educated but its hopeless. If I got sick in the Phils I'd go to a shaman before I'd trust one of thier so called doctors. I use thier dentists for teeth cleaning 3 times a year its pretty cheap like 700 pesos here in the US I can't get out of a dental appointment for less than 100 USD they are always pushing Xrays. The last random Davao dentist said I had 12 cavities LOL I'm in my mid fifties and I never had a cavity in my life. Cleaning is all I trust them for as well.
God help all you expats and guys living there for your work at the mercy of that medical system.
Member #4387
10-28-15, 19:10
Lately I have 2 Angeles area gfs bugging me that they need the HPV vaccine. Both are in thier early 20's 1 already worked in a bar and neither are close to virgin. So now Angeles doctors are trying to push that vaccine on girls with a source of foriegner cash. What a crock of typical filipino BS. Its 3 shots for like 3500 each.
I try to send them to the websites to get educated but its hopeless. If I got sick in the Phils I'd go to a shaman before I'd trust one of thier so called doctors. I use thier dentists for teeth cleaning 3 times a year its pretty cheap like 700 pesos here in the US I can't get out of a dental appointment for less than 100 USD they are always pushing Xrays. The last random Davao dentist said I had 12 cavities LOL I'm in my mid fifties and I never had a cavity in my life. Cleaning is all I trust them for as well.
God help all you expats and guys living there for your work at the mercy of that medical system.St Lukes in Quezon contains a lot of proffesional doctors, and when I was there during the time my firstborn was going in and out here through regular checkups, there was no much difference on the doc quality there than in Norway. Does not many of the expats (US ones and former military guys) have access to some military hospital treatment also here in phils?? Is that also like playing russian rullette? I've exclude myself from how bad it can be as I only have experience from the mentioned one and during a small crises I also stopped by Makati Med (also great if you choose the fast line) In Makati med to be sure they actually called my inhouse doc in Norway to sort out some issues I was not able to explain. My inhouse doc was very happy recieving this call at 3 am in the morning.
If I got sick in the Phils I'd go to a shaman before I'd trust one of thier so called doctors. I use thier dentists for teeth cleaning 3 times a year its pretty cheap like 700 pesos here in the US I can't get out of a dental appointment for less than 100 USD they are always pushing Xrays.Whilst you're visiting the shaman don't forget to ask him to pull out your tumors too; that's their world-renown specialty. I've been very happy with the shaman-free treatment I've received at Makati Med. I'd say it's near a first-world level, but my experience has all been on an out-patient basis, so can't opine about advanced procedures such as heart transplants and limb re-attachment. With a girl I visited hospital in Paranque and that was a crowded, disorganised, and slow dump. Her doctor seemed a bit unknowledgeable too. The biggest hassle in hospitals here is having to bounce to and fro between the doctors' offices and the cashier. They really like to take their time to collect payment.
Since you're averse to seeing local doctors I should mention that in many places in the world the deceased aren't embalmed, so finding a local mortician who knows how to do so may prove tricky. If you want your intact, uncremated remains shipped back for burial in the US you may want to save your bereaved loved ones the hassle of figuring out the Philippines export and US import requirements by planning ahead.
If HPV vaccine is a scam then it is a million times more scam in the western countries. I only have surface knowledge about this vaccine but think it has its merits. But then I have probably been scammed on the hepa A & be vaccines along with polio and other childhood vaccines without my legal age consent.
I must say that with my limited but several experiences with medical professionals that they did a decent job. Of course you are not going get the disease detecting experts unless you are in the world class clinics or hospital. But overall decent medical help considering the conditions and locations. Even with great doctors I doubt if it would make much difference as most Phil people couldn't afford the medications. Sadly most people die earlier here without affordable medical and medications for a lack of a few dollars.
If HPV vaccine is a scam then it is a million times more scam in the western countries. I only have surface knowledge about this vaccine but think it has its merits. But then I have probably been scammed on the hepa A & be vaccines along with polio and other childhood vaccines without my legal age consent.The merits are for those who are uninfected, and those primarily are the young who haven't had sex. HPV is a very common virus amongst adults. I recall reading up to 80% of adults are carriers but most are asymptomatic. In many cases the body's own immunity can fight off the virus. This isn't HIV, herpes or hepatitis. But yes, if one is uninfected being vaccinated is a good idea. Is a sex worker in AC uninfected? Unlikely.
Randy Murican
10-29-15, 09:49
The merits are for those who are uninfected, and those primarily are the young who haven't had sex. HPV is a very common virus amongst adults. I recall reading up to 80% of adults are carriers but most are asymptomatic. In many cases the body's own immunity can fight off the virus. This isn't HIV, herpes or hepatitis. But yes, if one is uninfected being vaccinated is a good idea. Is a sex worker in AC uninfected? Unlikely.Interestingly enough there is an actual meta-analysis of global HPV prevalence. Based on 194 studies comprising 1,016,719 women in total. The actual prevalence rate worldwide as estimated by this analysis is 11.7%. Not quite the 80% you 'remember'. More specifically the rate for SEA was reported as 14.0%. Age-specific HPV distribution presents with a first peak at younger ages (<25 years) so this represents exactly the population that HPV vaccination is targeted at.
That is easy: To jerk while reading the forum.
No worries no risk of him visiting any place.
"Better" for / at what?
Interestingly enough there is an actual meta-analysis of global HPV prevalence. Based on 194 studies comprising 1,016,719 women in total. The actual prevalence rate worldwide as estimated by this analysis is 11.7%. Not quite the 80% you 'remember'. More specifically the rate for SEA was reported as 14.0%. Age-specific HPV distribution presents with a first peak at younger ages (<25 years) so this represents exactly the population that HPV vaccination is targeted at.Thanks for telling me how my memory works.
"We estimated the average lifetime probability of acquiring HPV among those with at least 1 opposite sex partner to be 84.6% (range, 53.6%-95.0%) for women and 91.3% (range, 69.5%-97.7%) for men. Under base case assumptions, more than 80% of women and men acquire HPV by age 45 years."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25299412
"HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives."
http://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/whatishpv.html
"HPV is commonly found in adolescents and young adults and public health officials estimate that 80 percent or more of sexually active women in the USA Have experienced HPV by age 50."
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/hpv.aspx
". . . globally, 50% to 80% of sexually active women are infected by HPV at least once in their lives."
http://www.rho.org/about-cervical-cancer.htm
You win. Thanks for your contribution. You really made a difference.
Randy Murican
10-30-15, 09:15
Thanks for telling me how my memory works.
"We estimated the average lifetime probability of acquiring HPV among those with at least 1 opposite sex partner to be 84.6% (range, 53.6%-95.0%) for women and 91.3% (range, 69.5%-97.7%) for men. Under base case assumptions, more than 80% of women and men acquire HPV by age 45 years."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25299412
"HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives."
http://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/whatishpv.html
"HPV is commonly found in adolescents and young adults and public health officials estimate that 80 percent or more of sexually active women in the USA Have experienced HPV by age 50."
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/hpv.aspx
". . . globally, 50% to 80% of sexually active women are infected by HPV at least once in their lives."
http://www.rho.org/about-cervical-cancer.htm
You win. Thanks for your contribution. You really made a difference.I'm glad I could help and I appreciate your inclusion of citations. Of course I'm sure you are aware that there is a difference between actual prevalence in a population and statistical models that predict probability of an event occurring over the course of a lifetime. These things are not the same. My objection to your original comment was that there is no evidence that 80% of the population at any given time is currently infected with HPV. As your own citations note 90% of people spontaneously clear the infection within two years. Those individuals have no virus remaining and are incapable of transmitting infection. Now if you said that of the 11.7% that have active infection some 80% are unaware that they are infected I would agree as this has been demonstrated in sero-prevalence studies of individuals with HSV.
The next question is do these individuals actually clear the virus or are the methods currently used for testing inadequate to differentiate between actual clearance and a latent infection? I'll include a reference for your review. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/70/21/8569.full.
The danger in equating prevalence with probability is that a reasonable individual may decline the vaccine based on that mistaken conflation. 'We're all infected anyway, what's the point of getting vaccinated'? No single development in medical science has done more to alleviate needless suffering and death than the development of vaccines and as your an educated guy I'm pretty sure you might agree with that.
Lost in our exchange is the original posters scorn for this vaccine as being a 'scam' to lighten his wallet. If you don't want to sponsor a girls desire for the vaccination that's fine. But don't denigrate the girl or the provider by characterizing it as only a ploy to separate you from your money.
In closing, (LOL) I certainly could have phrased my response more artfully, so for that apologies.
Offshore Swell
11-14-15, 15:44
Miss Bukidnon, the student whom I sponsor, did her university work experience in the US this year. The usual $7. 50 per hour US land of equality wage. Then they took some tax out.
My question is that she has a tax credit there in the US of about $250, this would be huge to her if she can get it back, but what I am hearing from her is that there are agents wanting a hefty cut of the refund to help her get it back, also if she gets the refund from the US will they direct deposit to her PI account or only issue a cheque? What is their tax year?
Can anybody provide some advice on the best way for her to try and get this back without it ending up in somebody else's pocket.
Ta OS.
WestCoast1
11-14-15, 16:16
Miss Bukidnon, the student whom I sponsor, did her university work experience in the US this year. The usual $7. 50 per hour US land of equality wage. Then they took some tax out.
My question is that she has a tax credit there in the US of about $250, this would be huge to her if she can get it back, but what I am hearing from her is that there are agents wanting a hefty cut of the refund to help her get it back, also if she gets the refund from the US will they direct deposit to her PI account or only issue a cheque? What is their tax year?
Can anybody provide some advice on the best way for her to try and get this back without it ending up in somebody else's pocket.
Ta OS.OS: She can file it herself with the US Internal Revenue Service (the dreaded IRS), from anywhere in the world. She can manually download a 1040 EZ form (no kidding, the EZ form is literally designed to be easy to fill out), print it, and fill in the needed information (a W-2 form, which her employer will mail to her approximately Feb 1 next year for her 2015 taxes), with her signature. Once she postal mails it to the IRS, they will process a check to her. The turn-around time from the time she sends the form, to receipt of the check, would be 2-3 months.
There are ways to get the money deposited directly to a bank account (I prefer this method, as it takes less than a week from the time that I file my taxes in February, to the time the IRS deposits the money electronically into my account). However, only a bank (I believe) can facilitate this process, and they will want a wire transfer fee (usually about $30 USD) and possibly their own fee for facilitation. This bank is the "middle-man" you are trying to go around. For myself, when I'm receiving a larger tax return than your girl (possibly thousands of dollars), the $30-40 fees are spit, as I would prefer to have my money quickly.
Your girl would not have made enough money to have paid any US taxes. Even if she worked a full work-week (40 hours typically), she would not have made the minimum to have paid taxes. The taxes that were taken from her paycheck are due back to her, if only she files for them. She would probably also need to file a similar tax return for the US State that she lived in (they might have also removed money from her paycheck), as she is also due for that amount. Each state has its own tax forms.
She can google all of this information. All forms are available for free download on the 'Net.
I believe there are also services that will allow her to file all of this electronically on the 'Net for free with the IRS (but not the individual states), such as TurboTax (dot com), which will result in a check being delivered to her (pay more for electronic deposit). I have helped numerous people fill out the 1040 EZ form. She will only have to fill in about 10 items, among them:
My name is:
My address:
My employer: (info from the W-2 form).
My Social Security (or Identifying number, also found on W-2):
Last year I made: $ (from W-2).
Last year I paid taxes of: $ (W-2).
Last year I should have paid (can be found in charts online, based on 'Last year I made') $0.
I owe (or have refund due): $ (subtract the two numbers above).
Signature:
Mail it!
Skipping the mailing part, I found an IRS website that helps you file electronically, free:
https://www.irs.gov/uac/Free-File:-Do-Your-Federal-Taxes-for-Free
Mr Enternational
11-14-15, 18:46
There are ways to get the money deposited directly to a bank account (I prefer this method, as it takes less than a week from the time that I file my taxes in February, to the time the IRS deposits the money electronically into my account). However, only a bank (I believe) can facilitate this process, and they will want a wire transfer fee (usually about $30 USD) and possibly their own fee for facilitation. This bank is the "middle-man" you are trying to go around. For myself, when I'm receiving a larger tax return than your girl (possibly thousands of dollars), the $30-40 fees are spit, as I would prefer to have my money quickly.I have never seen any fees associated with direct deposit of an income tax check. (Maybe you are talking about the rapid refund that some tax places advertise. What actually happens with that is they make sure your refund for that amount will go through. Then it is actually them that fronts / loans you the money while they take the actual payment you were supposed to get from the government.) It works the same as if you have your normal paycheck direct deposited. Next to where you sign the form there is a box you can check of you want it direct deposited and you write the routing number and account number that you want it sent to.
The problem that the friend will face is if she does not have a US bank. The money will not be able to be sent to a foreign bank. In addition the amount she will receive anyway may not even be worth the trouble of filing if she does not plan to work in the USA again.
Many of you apparently have problems with reading comprehension with my reference to HPV vaccination scam in Angeles.
The HPV vaccination is meant for virgin girls in their early teens. Vaccination is a preventative procedure. Giving it to sexually active 23 year old females one of whom previously worked in a bar is an extremely bad health bet.
Re read my post.
The posters who live in Makati are so touchy and defensive about the wonderful quality of life they have there. Its good you have been able to find world class medical care there. However in the rest of the country the medical care is woefully substandard. Its amazing that when I point out the simple fact that the Phils has a poor medical care infrastructure that I get a myopic defensive response from the Marie Antionette Manila residents saying wow I found a good hospital! Why can't everyone! This is not the Makati thread, there is life outside Manila metro and once you get out of your traffic jammed poluted hell hole of a city, you will see its not so pretty, medically speaking. The girls I was referencing obviously are not visiting the top Medical hospitals completely unavailable to 90% of the native population due to geography and economics.
WestCoast1
11-14-15, 20:00
I have never seen any fees associated with direct deposit of an income tax check. (Maybe you are talking about the rapid refund that some tax places advertise. What actually happens with that is they make sure your refund for that amount will go through. Then it is actually them that fronts / loans you the money while they take the actual payment you were supposed to get from the government.) It works the same as if you have your normal paycheck direct deposited. Next to where you sign the form there is a box you can check of you want it direct deposited and you write the routing number and account number that you want it sent to. Thanks, was not familiar with all that.
The problem that the friend will face is if she does not have a US bank. The money will not be able to be sent to a foreign bank. In addition the amount she will receive anyway may not even be worth the trouble of filing if she does not plan to work in the USA again. Ya. Probably she's due back no more than the low $hundreds.
If I got sick in the Phils I'd go to a shaman before I'd trust one of thier so called doctors.Okie dokie.
The posters who live in Makati are so touchy and defensive about the wonderful quality of life they have there.Makati is in the Philippines. You were the one who wrote you'd visit a witch doctor before visiting a "so called" doctor "in the Phils". If you want to dispense dodgy advice don't be surprised when some folks have a difference of opinion. A disagreement isn't defensiveness. It's setting the record straight.
Now you move the goal posts from the "Philippines" to the "provinces". Talk about touchy. If you meant the provinces in the first place you should have said so in the first place.
. . . you will see its not so pretty, medically speaking.This is based on your first-hand experience with the Filipino doctors you'd never visit, right?
I've been treated by doctors in a few places (Metro Manila, Cebu, and Davao), I'm alive and kicking, and I still have one of my eyes and most of my limbs ;)
Yes, many of the provincial hospitals aren't up to western standards. That being said, I wouldn't hesitate to visit one if the need arose.
This is not the Makati thread . . .
Right. It's the Filipinas - Opinions and Advice thread. If you're going to be sticker for thread accuracy then part of your original comment would have been better in the Philippines - Quacks & Witch Doctors thread.
It's not often that I chuckle all alone with me and my computer. Thanks Hutsori.
I've had dental work and a nasty skin rash treated in the Philippines. No complaints. I've saved a bit of money on eyeglass prescriptions too.
If I were seriously ill, Philippines looks dodgy since many of their experienced doctors and nurses find employment overseas.
To be fair, Huts should give more details about how his eyes and limbs were saved.
Many of you apparently have problems with reading comprehension with my reference to HPV vaccination scam in Angeles.
The HPV vaccination is meant for virgin girls in their early teens. Vaccination is a preventative procedure. Giving it to sexually active 23 year old females one of whom previously worked in a bar is an extremely bad health bet.
This info is wrong. HPV vaccination is for any sexually active or going to be active girl. Reason it is given to young girls is because the lining can be easily torn during sex and open to variety of diseases including HPV.
Since HPV Virus causes cancer in some people it is advisable. However people live their life exposed to HPV without any issues.
This info is wrong. HPV vaccination is for any sexually active or going to be active girl. Reason it is given to young girls is because the lining can be easily torn during sex and open to variety of diseases including HPV.
Since HPV Virus causes cancer in some people it is advisable. However people live their life exposed to HPV without any issues.Your information is woefully wrong. Lining can be easily torn? This is gobbledy gook nonsense. Its given before potential exposure to the HPV. Do you understand what vaccination means? Its prevenative. One must get it before one is exposed to the HPV.
If you have unlimited funds, then what the hell, give it a shot it can't hurt. Paris Hilton might as well give it a go. If a girl has worked in a bar or has been sexually active since her teens and is now in her early 20's its likely to be too little too late scenario. Its a bad bet of P10 to 12,000. If you want to pay for it by all means knock yourself out. Sure if some 23 yo virgin were to get it, it could be effective. The point is phils doctors are advising sexually active females with access foriegner BF cash to get the vaccine. Its bullshit plain and simple.
My point is I'm not paying for a 23 yo sexually active female to get the vaccine, her doctors are advising it. Two of them in Angeles. Two girls two doctors. Here in the west doctors give it to Junior High girls.
Please do simple research before posting. I can't believe my original post is controversial.
Could it hurt for a 23 yo former bargirl to get the vaccine? No but its not.
Okie dokie.
Makati is in the Philippines. You were the one who wrote you'd visit a witch doctor before visiting a "so called" doctor "in the Phils". If you want to dispense dodgy advice don't be surprised when some folks have a difference of opinion. A disagreement isn't defensiveness. It's setting the record straight.
Now you move the goal posts from the "Philippines" to the "provinces". Talk about touchy. If you meant the provinces in the first place you should have said so in the first place.
This is based on your first-hand experience with the Filipino doctors you'd never visit, right?
I've been treated by doctors in a few places (Metro Manila, Cebu, and Davao), I'm alive and kicking, and I still have one of my eyes and most of my limbs ;)
Yes, many of the provincial hospitals aren't up to western standards. That being said, I wouldn't hesitate to visit one if the need arose.
Right. It's the Filipinas - Opinions and Advice thread. If you're going to be sticker for thread accuracy then part of your original comment would have been better in the Philippines - Quacks & Witch Doctors thread.Wow. I stuck a nerve. Sorry to burst your bubble where in your mind the Phils is a source of anything less than substandard medical care for 90% of the country and population. I have visitied medical fascilities in Davao, Angeles, Puerto Princessa, Tacloban, Calbayog and Taguig. It was always for the girls maladies not mine thank god its kinda scary. Did I take them to the most expensive hospital hell no its not my soulmate just a girl I am trying to help out.
If I had something seriously wrong I would GTFO of that country ASAP, sorry but I doubt many posters here disagree. But they will I'm sure as I have less than 1000 posts!
The witch doctor comment was obviously hyperbole. I am sure your company will pay for private care in the best fascilities if your stuck there for work, god give you strength, or if you are independently wealthy. Who pays for all your care in the world class medical centers of the Phils BTW?
I am just a frequent visitor for pleasure not a resident or someone there on an expense account. I gave up posting or reading the Makati thread long ago because it is dominated by guys living on the companys dime or who have money to burn staying in over priced hotel at 1st world rates and paying for overpriced pussy.
So keep in mind Pantot is excluding the Nirvana of Makati and the wonderful areas of the wealthy elite in Metro Manila in all posts about "The Phils".
Chocha Monger
11-16-15, 08:34
There is no reason to doubt that the AC beaver doctors are pushing this HPV vaccine as profit point in their business. The CDC guidelines recommend the vaccine for kids, and set a cut-off age of 21 yrs for men and 26 yrs old for women. Yet, in AC, women as old as 30 yrs are being told they need this vaccine by their doctors. It's a nice way for the doctors to cash in on some of the foreigner boyfriend money boosting the local economy. It's a waste of money for any woman over 26 yrs of age to get this vaccine, and it's definitely a waste of money for women of any age to get this vaccine if they've already been barebacked by one or more mongers.
Relax Pantot.
You were doing pretty good there until you started insinuating that people with over 1000 posts and / or people with expense accounts and / or people living in Makati are all somehow misinformed and possibly ganging up on you. That type of sweeping generalization does somewhat diminish your earlier points. Which were actually quite good.
I don't know much about HPV, but most gals in the bar have to get some medical clearance from the beginning. It makes sense that the get the vaccine since some are pretty fresh when they first arrive from the province.
Is the system set up to extract as much money from everyone possible? I'm pretty sure that I can agree with Pantot on that point. X (embarrassed to have over 4000 posts).
Wow. I stuck a nerve. Sorry to burst your bubble where in your mind the Phils is a source of anything less than substandard medical care for 90% of the country and population. I have visitied medical fascilities in Davao, Angeles, Puerto Princessa, Tacloban, Calbayog and Taguig. It was always for the girls maladies not mine thank god its kinda scary. Did I take them to the most expensive hospital hell no its not my soulmate just a girl I am trying to help out.
If I had something seriously wrong I would GTFO of that country ASAP, sorry but I doubt many posters here disagree. But they will I'm sure as I have less than 1000 posts!
The witch doctor comment was obviously hyperbole. I am sure your company will pay for private care in the best fascilities if your stuck there for work, god give you strength, or if you are independently wealthy. Who pays for all your care in the world class medical centers of the Phils BTW?
I am just a frequent visitor for pleasure not a resident or someone there on an expense account. I gave up posting or reading the Makati thread long ago because it is dominated by guys living on the companys dime or who have money to burn staying in over priced hotel at 1st world rates and paying for overpriced pussy.
So keep in mind Pantot is excluding the Nirvana of Makati and the wonderful areas of the wealthy elite in Metro Manila in all posts about "The Phils".
Wicked Roger
11-16-15, 14:40
There is no reason to doubt that the AC beaver doctors are pushing this HPV vaccine as profit point in their business. The CDC guidelines recommend the vaccine for kids, and set a cut-off age of 21 yrs for men and 26 yrs old for women. Yet, in AC, women as old as 30 yrs are being told they need this vaccine by their doctors. It's a nice way for the doctors to cash in on some of the foreigner boyfriend money boosting the local economy. It's a waste of money for any woman over 26 yrs of age to get this vaccine, and it's definitely a waste of money for women of any age to get this vaccine if they've already been barebacked by one or more mongers.CM and I have at times not seen eye to eye but his comment is a good one.
This CDC link backs it up plus from WHO and Planned Parenthood.
http://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine.html
http://www.who.int/immunization/diseases/hpv/en/
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/hpv/hpv-vaccine
I also agree (that is rare CM as we know LOL) that doctor in this country don't care for ethics just cash. So similar to their government and politicians LOL.
Once I show this link to a few cuties they get it fast or not at all, but the medical profession can be unscrupulous for sure.
This vaccine thing comes from the top. If there were a thousand new vaccines invented today, the United Stated FDA would approve every one of them. And the CDC, one of the most corrupt, crony bureaucracies on the planet would be pushing every single one.
The manufacturers got their way in California. An unbelievably huge amount of money was dumped into Sacramento, the capitol, to get Senate Bill 277 passed. Families that don't comply with the vaccine mandate will lose their state constitutional right for an education in public and private K-12 schools. Also the use of licensed daycare facilities, in-home daycare, public or private preschools and after school care programs are all included in the new law. School aged children not up-to-date on every mandated vaccine will be required to home school without options for classroom learning.
Now they're fighting the same thing in New York and it will sweep the country. The push is world wide, it's a global political movement. And it's completely funded by the industry because it's a huge money maker for the drug industry. It's a perfect product. You have the government order people to use your product, set your own price, and if anything goes wrong you have complete liability immunity. You can not sue a manufacturer or anyone who administers it if there's an injury involved.
I don't want to take sides or even get into it much more because I already have 305 posts. But I'll just finish by saying that the HPV vaccine is touted to fight cervical cancer. But what they aren't telling you is that thousands of girls are having a long list of horrible adverse reactions. And over 100 deaths at last count. That's according to VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System). And estimates are that up to 90% of events are not reported.
So. Is there any proof that it's safe? No.
Is there any proof that it's totally effective? Is anyone going to guarantee that you won't get HPV? No.
Is there any proof that it's not safe? Yes.
Is there any proof that it's not totally effective? Yes. The vaccine contains the virus and many people contract the virus after receiving the vaccine.
And most cases go away on their own anyway.
I think anyone should have the right to put anything in their body they want. It's just tragic, and in my opinion criminal, that this stuff is being pushed without proper education of the risks.
M not related to madics just m a user in my place and sometime other places around the world. As per my experiences I should say in Philippine medical service is relatively poorer in respect of qualities and expertise even than the so called third world countries.
In my last experience it was a plan to stay 3 days with a 39 yr old girl in Angles. But unexpectedly we were in need to shortage our staying in one day, due to a medic problem of her 20 yr old daughter. The daughter given a birth of an American child in hospital by Scissorian. On the third day of operation my girl came to see me with a plan for staying three days. Until then, all was quite ok. But we make shortage of staying after having emergency call from the hospital that her daughter gets infection in her wound.
It was been informed me that all Scissorian mothers in Philippine need to stay in hospital minimum three days but generally it goes for a week or more. That makes me little surprise because I have seen in Thailand or Nepal the Scissorian mothers come home just after a day with their babies. Even in Kathmandu I met a girl have spotless belly since she have a Scissorian baby.
It was been informed me that all Scissorian mothers in Philippine need to stay in hospital minimum three days but generally it goes for a week or more.The belly slicing maniac that is Dr Pinoy Scissorhands. You ought to see him perform Lasik. I have the multi-lens compound eye of a wasp.
It was been informed me that all Scissorian mothers in Philippine need to stay in hospital minimum three days but generally it goes for a week or more. That makes me little surprise because I have seen in Thailand or Nepal the Scissorian mothers come home just after a day with their babies. Even in Kathmandu I met a girl have spotless belly since she have a Scissorian baby.Love the spelling! Caesarean section patients stay for 2-4 days on average in the UK and US. It is major surgery after all.
I spent 3 days in Manila Sanitarium for acute gastroenteritis once. It may not have been the most glamorous of facilities but it was clean and the care was excellent. Meanwhile, in the US, my wife worries that she'll lose a patient due to the high patient to low nurse ratio in ICU, 2:1 instead of 1:1 in the UK, and that's on a good day when they're not understaffed like they usually are.
Wolvenvacht
11-18-15, 19:55
Love the spelling! Caesarean section patients stay for 2-4 days on average in the UK and US. It is major surgery after all.
I spent 3 days in Manila Sanitarium for acute gastroenteritis once. It may not have been the most glamorous of facilities but it was clean and the care was excellent. Meanwhile, in the US, my wife worries that she'll lose a patient due to the high patient to low nurse ratio in ICU, 2:1 instead of 1:1 in the UK, and that's on a good day when they're not understaffed like they usually are.A 1 to 1 patient to nurse ratio in the UK? That's what you get in these socialist health care systems. One day it will bring the end of their Empire. Watch out that your Obamacare doesn't push you down too. ;)
A 1 to 1 patient to nurse ratio in the UK? That's what you get in these socialist health care systems. One day it will bring the end of their Empire. Watch out that your Obamacare doesn't push you down too. ;)1:1 in ICU. In HDU it's 2:1 (patient: nurse); more regular wards have a load more patients.
I do laugh when people call the NHS "socialist". It's a label: maybe it's right, maybe it's not. But unlike here in the US, I don't spend hours on the phone arguing over yet another incorrect bill, or worry whether an op will be covered, or whether insurance will pay for a medication, or whether that medication comes in a generic form (=lower copay). Sure, the NHS isn't perfect but at least you'll be treated if it's medically necessary and appropriate, without bill shock some weeks / months later. "You never knew how good you have it" certainly applies when moving from the UK to the US, unless you're a high roller and / or no medical issues!
I'm not knocking US healthcare: if you can afford it, or on an excellent plan (can your employer afford it) you can get great care.
BTW my 3-day stay in Manila Sanitarium, room and food, labs, medications, doctors etc cost a grand total of £120, about USD $183 or Php8628.
1:1 in ICU. In HDU it's 2:1 (patient: nurse); more regular wards have a load more patients.
I'm not knocking US healthcare: if you can afford it, or on an excellent plan (can your employer afford it) you can get great care..Other countries are far ahead of US when it comes to medical treatment. Let me quote 2 examples:
1) Heart reconstruction surgery is a procedure most cardiac surgeons in the US have only heard of. It is a procedure where stem cells are used to reconstruct dead muscles of a patient's heart. Recovery time is less than 2 weeks as my 26-year old friend can testify to. Done in Thailand and India.
2) John Major, an ex-Prime Minister of UK also went to India for a medical treatment. Surely he has money and access to hospitals in UK.
Reason is that treatments in India, Thailand have weaker regulation. So when it comes to experimental treatments the barrier to prove risk and benefit is lower.
Other countries are far ahead of US when it comes to medical treatment. Let me quote 2 examples:
1) Heart reconstruction surgery is a procedure most cardiac surgeons in the US have only heard of. It is a procedure where stem cells are used to reconstruct dead muscles of a patient's heart. Recovery time is less than 2 weeks as my 26-year old friend can testify to. Done in Thailand and India.
2) John Major, an ex-Prime Minister of UK also went to India for a medical treatment. Surely he has money and access to hospitals in UK.
Reason is that treatments in India, Thailand have weaker regulation. So when it comes to experimental treatments the barrier to prove risk and benefit is lower.Not only in Thailand and India, I have an experience regarding Bangladesh too. One of my friend get hit in his head than a hospital in Dhaka (I forget the name) take out piece (s) of his skull and re fixed after a week of treatment. Relatively Singapore is the best choice for treatment on that Zone just get to higher expanses.
MrWoolyBooly
12-14-15, 02:26
It usually does not end well for foreign men who have multiple live-in girlfriends in the Philippines, especially when they try to cut off the cash and evict a member of the harem. The foreigner might get a visit from the friendly local policemen and invited to have an extended stay gratis at their fine resort facility for cheeky sex tourists. The other scenario involves the foreigner being robbed and murdered by unknown assailants. The murder usually goes unsolved and quickly turns into a forgotten cold case.I've been giving this some thought. The many-in-one-house approach seems riskiest as you describe. Some prudent steps would reduce but by no means eliminate risks: Never give the girls your real name. The owner or renter is either a local guy who has your back, or a foreigner (in case of condo) who both has your back and doesn't mind the risk to his property. Given enough money (in the case of the local fixer) or enough loyalty from the fellow foreigner, it might work. Too much stress for me, although I'm still thinking whether there are other ways to accomplish. Maybe only active college students from out of town with arrangement to support them until they graduate?
I'm open to anybody pointing out the pitfalls of renting under false name or through a fixer, say two or three ordinary apartments on short-term (month-to-month, 3- or 6-month) leases around town. Any sugar babies turn clingy, just never go to that apartment again. Nice to notify the owner who would undoubtedly also want them out. Costs money, but even three ordinary apartments would cost the same or less than a single decent apartment in many Western cities. Plans are still vague, but got to think of something on the boring outbound flights.
Maybe the best option is a single rented love nest while supporting a skilled pimpette.
I've been giving this some thought. The many-in-one-house approach seems riskiest as you describe. Some prudent steps would reduce but by no means eliminate risks: Never give the girls your real name. The owner or renter is either a local guy who has your back, or a foreigner (in case of condo) who both has your back and doesn't mind the risk to his property. Given enough money (in the case of the local fixer) or enough loyalty from the fellow foreigner, it might work. Too much stress for me, although I'm still thinking whether there are other ways to accomplish. Maybe only active college students from out of town with arrangement to support them until they graduate?
I'm open to anybody pointing out the pitfalls of renting under false name or through a fixer, say two or three ordinary apartments on short-term (month-to-month, 3- or 6-month) leases around town. Any sugar babies turn clingy, just never go to that apartment again. Nice to notify the owner who would undoubtedly also want them out. Costs money, but even three ordinary apartments would cost the same or less than a single decent apartment in many Western cities. Plans are still vague, but got to think of something on the boring outbound flights.
Maybe the best option is a single rented love nest while supporting a skilled pimpette.I concur with CM. We have seen this story before in Cebu and it didn't end well for one of the former members of this board. Persoanlly I'd advise to stick to one live in at a time and enjoy hobbying with others (even multiples at a time) at a different place. As for the harem scenario, too much jealousy and too many issues will make it no fun in the long run and likely end badly.
Funny how things happen here in the Phils.
I was at a dance venue, and I happened upon an attractive looking woman sitting well back from the dance floor and the stage. She was with a fat, aggressive friend, who was unpleasant to deal with.
So I asked the woman to dance, and we got chatting.
A couple of days later, I invited her to dinner and a swim at Treasure Island. While we were talking, the topic got around to variations in sex style. While we were talking about anal as an option, she was pretty revolted at the idea. Face screwed up in disgust. But I was telling her that the area around her anus was very sensitive, and she should not knock a bit of licking until she had tried it.
Come time for us to leave, she discovered that she had left her gate key at home, so she could not get into her house (auntie and 2 sons).
So I gallantly offered to pay for a room where we could sleep, then she goes home in the morning.
So we are in bed, naked, showered, very clean, and I start the routine. But while I am licking her pussy, I am moving back and forth to her anus, and she makes it clear that she likes it. So a bit more exploration, some licking, sliding, fingering, and I turn her over to doggie position and start working on the back door. No resistance.
So I slide the pork sausage slowly into her virginal orifice, and soon fully home. She does not resist. So I start some movement, and after a short time, fully banging away. She likes this, and is soon driving backwards onto me.
What a transition.
And a totally unexpected devirgination of a pinay derriere.
The Phils is a wonderful place.
G
MrWoolyBooly
12-19-15, 04:20
I concur with CM. We have seen this story before in Cebu and it didn't end well for one of the former members of this board. Persoanlly I'd advise to stick to one live in at a time and enjoy hobbying with others (even multiples at a time) at a different place. As for the harem scenario, too much jealousy and too many issues will make it no fun in the long run and likely end badly.Yeah, I'm thinking maybe supporting a long-term pimpette (off-site of course) with a steady enough supply of college students that harbor no illusions of my settling down. Renting still beats buying in this scenario, however interpreted. Remove SIM and return to my own condo to escape as needed. That's the tentative plan.
The following is more information than most will want to know:
In the short term, I've got a strange situation to work out. A few years ago got flirty online with supercute MM from Las Pinas, approx 21 at the time. Knew she had BF, but whatever. She meets me at the airport, but with younger sister and dad in tow, in spite of agreeing to meet me by herself. Whatever, she's still hot. Check in to Isabelle Royale Makati, take them to Wendy's on Makati Ave. Pretend to be respectable long enough for dad to leave. Get MM and younger sister ML hanging out in the rooftop cafe. MM keeps trying to foist ML on me because she has a vestigal conscience about her BF. ML back then was definitely not ready, so absolutely no way. Hanging out, they're using one of my laptops while I'm working and arranging other girls. MM knows I'll never meet them again if she doesn't fix things, so she follows me to my room, gives me a decent BJ and swallows the shake.
We all keep in touch online. MM eventually gets pregnant by a guy (not BF at the time) and is living with infant and baby daddy in Bulacan. Early last year, when ML was 18, she insisted to visit me at the Berjaya Hotel. Asked to bring her hot distant cousin RR (around 20) whom I had seen online. Of course I agreed to a hot one. They arrive, obvious they're not going to do a 3-some. I send MM out for nonsense errand but get just enough time to suck on RR's boobs. Then I send RR out on another nonsense errand, and get only the same from MM.
Later last year, MM again insists to visit me. I communicate clearly that if she's not alone and taking excellent care of me I'm not interested, and that I'm inviting other girls anyway. She shows up at my (again) Berjaya Hotel, and a great time was had by all. She's now 19, very thin, tallish by Pinay standards, buds for boobs that she's embarrassed about, but very pretty and rides decently for a beginner. Not interested in BJs at the time. I visited their "informal housing" neighborhood along where the East Balibot river goes under the Alabang-Zapote road, bringing them buckets of chicken from the nearby KFC. Meet their prettiest sister (2nd of 3) IJ who already had a baby. Unfortunately she's got the thin-as-a-rail body type I'm not into, not often anyway haha.
Forward to today. MM has turned silent on me because Pinoy baby daddy controls her communication, but can contact if necessary. ML is practically begging me to make her pregnant with a mixed Filipino-Caucasian baby. IJ has gone from "suplada" (Pinoys translate it as snobbish, but seems to mean cold or unfriendly) to just yesterday agreeing to meet with me. (MM & IJ still live with parents in Las Pinas.) RR has been living in Cavite with Pinoy BF family, but is asking to stay with me in Makati / Manila anyway. MM / IJ have a very pretty cousin JA living with them in Las Pinas that wants to meet me, promises what needs promising.
So for my next trip: Eldest sister MM (BJ without boink), second sister IJ (nothing yet), third sister ML (boink without BJ), cousin JA (nothing yet) or distant cousin RR (sucked boobs)? Best possibility for 3-some would be ML & JA, but ML is pleading with me to find another "poriner" for JA. None know my real name. Have to keep my GF happy. If any generously informative members are interested in meeting into the above bunch or any of their many lovely friends, PM me. They also have lots of pretty friends willing to meet that I communicate with via fake FB. Although I can never match Mr Skogis in the Olympic Boinking event, I do enjoy keeping the drama lively.
I'm open to anybody pointing out the pitfalls of renting under false name...In both of my experiences renting I had to provide a photocopy of my passport to the condos' management office which then gave my name to the condos' security team - girls visiting often ask them about the man's activities and sometimes the guards volunteer info unasked. I guess you could ask that they accept your request to use a your alias, but I think coordinating everyone's compliance may prove difficult. May raise eyebrows and suspicions.
For me to provide housing and have to deal with issues that inevitably arise is a level of involvement I don't want. The great thing about this country is you needn't bother.
MrWoolyBooly
12-19-15, 04:50
In both of my experiences renting I had to provide a photocopy of my passport to the condos' management office which then gave my name to the condos' security team. Girls visiting often ask them about the man's activities and sometimes the guards volunteer info unasked. I guess you could ask that they accept your request to use a your alias, but I think coordinating everyone's compliance may prove difficult. May raise eyebrows and suspicions.Thanks for the heads up. I've rented condos, but only for short stays not monthly. Makes sense the staff would know even more about long-term residents. I don't really care what they think about me, but don't want to offend their sensibilities and become unwelcome. My best experience with security guys who had my back were at the Casa Bocobo in Manila City (not sure if it still exists). Spent plenty of time waiting at the outside cafe tables for girls to arrive while shooting the breeze with a young Ilonggo guard guy. We'd destroy Taglish enough to make ourselves understood, and mid-story when the girls arrived he'd transform into Superdoorman. Over the top he's trying to make the arriving lady feel like visiting royalty. Naturally, he never let any leave without checking with me that all was ok. Afterward, while waiting for my next guest, we'd share opinions of the last visitor. He was young and provincial enough find my sport fascinating instead of yet jaded and scornful of horny foreign guys haha.
Chocha Monger
12-22-15, 11:11
I concur with CM. We have seen this story before in Cebu and it didn't end well for one of the former members of this board. Persoanlly I'd advise to stick to one live in at a time and enjoy hobbying with others (even multiples at a time) at a different place. As for the harem scenario, too much jealousy and too many issues will make it no fun in the long run and likely end badly.Good advice to Mr. WB. The story in Cebu is only one of many examples of harems turning out badly for the monger involved. There is a documentary called "An American and his harem" that predates the Cebu disaster. It features an American retiree who built a compound to house his harem members in individual love shacks. Jealousy eventually exploded between his concubines, accusations were made, and the American is now enjoying an extended visa-free stay in the Philippine government's luxury accommodations for cheeky sex tourists. His concubines eventually retracted their false accusations but the Philippine courts refused to reverse his sentences. Apparently, it is good business keeping cheeky sex tourists confined indefinitely.
Meeting the father and then screwing the daughters and their cousins seem like a high risk strategy. Jealous Filipino boyfriends are part of the drama. The girls are slum dwellers from the banks of the East Balibot River. Desperate people do desperate things. Mr. WB's story sounds like the setting for a drama involving sex, jealously, betrayal, unjust imprisonment, extortion, and murder just to point out a few possible themes. Why risk all this for sex with no long term commitments? Pretty slum dwellers and starving college students are always available on an as needed basis for threesomes at your friendly neighborhood Sogo Hotel without leaving behind copies one's ID and providing harborage for pinoy boyfriends at apartments and condos.
One should never underestimate jealousy and envy in the Philippines. They are the most frequently and intensely felt emotions in the country. Ignore these emotions and they will destroy you. They are the national religion. The destitute natives envy white skin, wealthy nation citizenship, and bank accounts holding reserve currencies. Creating situations where female natives and their local boyfriends depend on your economic support but may end up feeling slighted because you allegedly gave a rival harem member more cash or gifts will result in your demise. Even if you were careful to give each one the same amount they have a tendency to lie to each other about the amount they got in order to increase perceived status. They will always take another Filipino's word over that of a foreigner. So, once they feel cheated by your uneven generosity they will feel compelled to take revenge. Filipinos love revenge almost as much as jealousy and envy. The end result for the foreigner is involuntary extended stay in Philippine government accommodations or being murdered.
Mr. WB mentioned an Ilonggo. I find this interesting as an American expat and his Filipino wife were recently brutally murdered and thrown down a well in Bacolod by Ilonggo gardeners because they felt the couple did not pay them enough in wages. Other Filipinos regard those belonging to the Ilonggo ethnic group as being liars and flatters who exhibit a superficial sweetness. Their victims are often caught unaware when the betrayal and violence comes. An Ilonggo man once said he would never marry a woman from his own ethnic group as they tend to have the staring eyes of a lizard waiting for a grain of rice to fall while hiding their true emotions. He said the Ilonggo husband is always the last to know what is happening in his house as the wife and her relatives will keep everything secret.
I thought this was worth mentioning as visitors often think of Filipinos as one people instead of a nation of various tribes scattered over an archipelago, each tribe having its own notoriety for certain traits. Many do not speak either Tagalog or English in regions outside the common tourist destinations. For this reason, many expats refuse to learn Tagalog as it is not much use outside of Luzon.
Good advice to Mr. WB. The story in Cebu is only one of many examples of harems turning out badly for the monger involved. There is a documentary called "An American and his harem" that predates the Cebu disaster. It features an American retiree who built a compound to house his harem members in individual love shacks. Jealousy eventually exploded between his concubines, accusations were made, and the American is now enjoying an extended visa-free stay in the Philippine government's luxury accommodations for cheeky sex tourists. His concubines eventually retracted their false accusations but the Philippine courts refused to reverse his sentences. Apparently, it is good business keeping cheeky sex tourists confined indefinitely.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUvnz5Iv2Hw
Mr Enternational
12-22-15, 16:53
What is the Cebu disaster? My first time in Cebu, maybe 3 years back, I hooked up with the young Australian board member who lived with a bunch of girls. He showed me around, hauling all his girls around in a big van. He was a pretty cool guy. I have since forgotten his handle but he used to post a lot.
The thing you hear a lot in this hobby is paying them to leave. Now someone is saying that they want to pay several of them not to leave?
What is the Cebu disaster? My first time in Cebu, maybe 3 years back, I hooked up with the young Australian board member who lived with a bunch of girls. He showed me around, hauling all his girls around in a big van. He was a pretty cool guy. I have since forgotten his handle but he used to post a lot.
The thing you hear a lot in this hobby is paying them to leave. Now someone is saying that they want to pay several of them not to leave?Cebu isn't a disaster. It's a great place like many places in the Phils. The Aussie you mentioned likely is the Gent who has been in jail for a few years now. While it appears he is clearly innocent of any criminal charges, he is guilty in the court of public opinion likely due to many of the reasons mentioned in CM's post. This individual wasn't very low key and apparently things broke down within the group and the girls, family's, boyfriends, and eventually officials took note. I have been working in the BPO business for almost 6 years and now have a steady GF in Cebu. But I do like to hobby on occasion as there are many wonderful women in the Phils. My advice is to enjoy the fruits of the Phils but remember this isn't a Western country so just be low key, kind, and respectful as much as possible and I guarantee you will have an awesome experience here.
Member #4387
12-22-15, 18:47
What is the Cebu disaster? My first time in Cebu, maybe 3 years back, I hooked up with the young Australian board member who lived with a bunch of girls. He showed me around, hauling all his girls around in a big van. He was a pretty cool guy. I have since forgotten his handle but he used to post a lot.
The thing you hear a lot in this hobby is paying them to leave. Now someone is saying that they want to pay several of them not to leave?It was Frenzy (and Bender in another forum). I never heard anything for a while the aftermath but if I remember correctly I think the charges were somewhat lowered to having an illigal firearms and breaking of immigration rules. Anyone?? Most serious charges I think was thrown away as girls changed accusation (maybe he was able to somewhat pay them off? I think he was evicted from phil soil with no welcoming sign waiting him if he returns.
I admit, since i was somewhat nube to phils back then, his postings fancied somewhat my interest. But ofcourse knowing myself so much that i hardly am able to spend more time than 2/3hrs maximum with a single girl(in real life its more like 1 to 2 hrs), What would be the real sane reason for putting up a harem then?:-) I need rotation of girls and dont like the same faces to be seen all the time. Well well..
FreebieFan
12-23-15, 01:49
I girls visiting often ask them about the man's activities and sometimes the guards volunteer info unasked. .Would totally concur. Security guards will provide you with no security whatsoever. They are nosy, and have little if any integrity.
" Hi Maam your Sir seems to be a very energetic man" being the type of information they will disclose without even being asked.
It was Frenzy (and Bender in another forum). I never heard anything for a while the aftermath but if I remember correctly I think the charges were somewhat lowered to having an illigal firearms and breaking of immigration rules. ..... I think he was evicted from phil soil with no welcoming sign waiting him if he returns................My reliable source says Frenzy is still in the can (prison), eating fish head soup. Does anyone have any info on this? And it's rumoured his friend D33 , formerly of the Cebu thread, and invitations to dinner man, is in Peru prison, right now. Take care out there, LOL.
One of the perils of being popular, your inbox is full, LOL.
MrWoolyBooly
12-23-15, 04:34
Mr. WB's story sounds like the setting for a drama involving sex, jealously, betrayal, unjust imprisonment, extortion, and murder just to point out a few possible themes. I truly laughed out loud over your comment and will apply greater caution, discretion, and safety measures. Except for the murder part, I've seen all the rest and just want a happy, peaceful life in the company of new lovely ladies. If the new lovely lady is a sister or cousin of a previous lovely lady, will have to be extra cautious. If any are interested, I did report some time ago on the three sisters (now only two because eldest is preggy with baby daddy in Australia) who FL together at Havana Cafe and Cafe Cubano. Sisters #2 and #3 are openminded for a price although I was just too conservative for a two-sister 3 some and did them separately (around a year apart) back before they learned about the poriners in Makati. If the Australian babydaddy of sister #1 is on this forum, you have my sincerest respect for taking responsibility for your child. I wish you both the best. If the older bespectacled Australian live-in of sister #2 shacking up with her in Makati is on this forum, be careful. She's complaining to me about you being a "babaero" (womanizer) and willing to meet me again. I've known her for years. She lacks any empathy, and I can easily imagine her "going Ilonggo" on you. I hope she doesn't have your real name and that you're only renting. And no, it's entirely irrelevant in her mind that she is meeting other guys. Several members have already observed and described this contradictory mindset.
Pretty slum dwellers and starving college students are always available on an as needed basis for threesomes at your friendly neighborhood Sogo Hotel without leaving behind copies one's ID and providing harborage for pinoy boyfriends at apartments and condos.Point very well taken. For whatever reason I've had one, count 'them one only, girl refuse to go to a Sogo on principle (the one on Quezon Ave closest to Quezon Ave MRT). She was a sizzling hot FEU student living in the Commonwealth area of QC that was perfectly satisfied to do Sogo-style activities all afternoon at a faux old English hotel a block west of the MRT station. It had a dark wood lobby with even a fake suit of armor (armour I suppose) standing in the lobby if I remember correctly. Lord Something-or-other was the name maybe circa 2010. Don't know if it still exists or not. Enough reminiscing. Ever since then I've only gone to Sogos with sure things which FEU student wasn't until we closed the door after entering the room. Oddly, even though Eurotel serves the same need in the marketplace, girls I've met seem to like it much better. YMMV and all that. Maybe it's those full-wall pictures of Europe that add class.
Mr. WB mentioned an Ilonggo. I find this interesting as an American expat and his Filipino wife were recently brutally murdered and thrown down a well in Bacolod by Ilonggo gardeners because they felt the couple did not pay them enough in wages. Other Filipinos regard those belonging to the Ilonggo ethnic group as being liars and flatters who exhibit a superficial sweetness. Their victims are often caught unaware when the betrayal and violence comes. An Ilonggo man once said he would never marry a woman from his own ethnic group as they tend to have the staring eyes of a lizard waiting for a grain of rice to fall while hiding their true emotions. He said the Ilonggo husband is always the last to know what is happening in his house as the wife and her relatives will keep everything secret.I'm familiar with a few of the ethnic stereotypes among Filipinos, but hadn't heard that one about Ilonggos. Supposedly Ilokanos are stingy, or "business-minded". In my observation the Pinoy Big Brother song "iba iba ang Pinoy" ("Pinoys are varied" or more colorfully "Pinoys come in all sorts") applies. I'm curious now and will ask around about others.
My funniest online encounter with a jealous Pinoy BF (they use the term "husband" loosely for live-ins) was on Date-in-Asia. Pretty girl in Pampanga had the usual looking for relationship profile. I'm chatting her up, it's clear what I want without breaking any site rules. Then Pinoy BF sends me messages to the effect of "stop msgng my wife, I'm polis and will shoot you in your (posterior)". It was obvious from the exchanges that his "wife" was eagerly into meeting me, but it's hopeless to explain it rationally. I reported the threat and the account got closed.
My strangest encounter with a jealous Pinoy BF in person was walking alone from LAC where I had dropped off my wingman back to my hotel only a few blocks away. It was dark as always in corrupt unlit Ermita, but I was sober and the streets were not deserted. Older Pinoy and late-20's Pinay were hanging out a few meters apart from each other in front of a closed bank. The Pinay crosses the concrete "yard" as I'm walking by smilingat me, says "Hi, sir", etc. I had no sooner stopped to reply then old Pinoy guy walks up and grabs my arm "What are you doing with my girlfriend? They were scamming or under the influence or had psychological issues, or some combination, and I briskly crossed the street. I wasn't worried about the fragile old guy physically, but irrational behavior scares me more than any rational disputes.
MrWoolyBooly
12-23-15, 04:46
Security guards will provide you with no security whatsoever. They are nosy, and have little if any integrity.
I'll never assume a Pinay believes I'm chastely devoted to her alone. If she's coming to meet me for the first time directly to my hotel room, any exclusivity is purely make-believe on both sides.
I do like to think that the nicer hotels prefer not to have guests murdered if only to prevent bad press. That's not a high standard, but there is some self-interest involved from their point of view. It's meager protection, but better than active danger.
The guards' nosiness entertains me. Their job seems unbearably boring.
I'll never assume a Pinay believes I'm chastely devoted to her alone. If she's coming to meet me for the first time directly to my hotel room, any exclusivity is purely make-believe on both sides.
I do like to think that the nicer hotels prefer not to have guests murdered if only to prevent bad press. That's not a high standard, but there is some self-interest involved from their point of view. It's meager protection, but better than active danger.
The guards' nosiness entertains me. Their job seems unbearably boring.I have been staying in Makati Diamond Residences a lot and I noticed that security guards became more curious and curious recently. Very annoying.
FreebieFan
12-23-15, 06:31
I have been staying in Makati Diamond Residences a lot and I noticed that security guards became more curious and curious recently. Very annoying.Sadly being nosy is something of a national disease. I was in a Philippines Embassy recently to get a contract signed between myself and a Filipino who was a female (no not a marriage cert!
The clerk, who had nothing to do except pass the contract to the the official who would sign the docs, took the contract, read who it was between, and started asking who the female was, what our relationship was, how well did I know the person etc. All irrelevant questions to the contract but she had to ask them as the habit of wanting to know someone elses business is deeply ingrained in many. Same with security.
The lvoe to know as much about you as they can. You should be polite and courteous but never engage in conversations with them as they will invariably want to know more about you. Its never to your advantage to disclose any information.
My reliable source says Frenzy is still in the can (prison), eating fish head soup. Does anyone have any info on this? And it's rumoured his friend D33 , formerly of the Cebu thread, and invitations to dinner man, is in Peru prison, right now. Take care out there, LOL.He is still in jail. System moves awfully slow in the Phils and the courts seem to be in no rush to release him despite the retractions from the girls. I wasn't a big fan of him (though he was a great contributor to this forum) but I believe he has done more than his time and they should just release him and never let him back in the Phils. Probably should have just done that to begin with as Skogis mentioned.
Again, I stress we all should enjoy the fruits of the Phils but just be respectful and aware of the environment you are in and of course be smart about it as this is a country full of jealous and nosy women. I know several guys on this board manage to do so just fine. Enjoy the Holidays everyone!
Dark Knight1
12-28-15, 02:07
He is still in jail. System moves awfully slow in the Phils and the courts seem to be in no rush to release him despite the retractions from the girls. I wasn't a big fan of him (though he was a great contributor to this forum) but I believe he has done more than his time and they should just release him and never let him back in the Phils. Probably should have just done that to begin with as Skogis mentioned.
Again, I stress we all should enjoy the fruits of the Phils but just be respectful and aware of the environment you are in and of course be smart about it as this is a country full of jealous and nosy women. I know several guys on this board manage to do so just fine. Enjoy the Holidays everyone!Yes they should just deport him but that is not the way the Philippines work or Filipinos think. When a Filipino has authority over a foreigner things are never going to end well for the said be foreigner. They seem to relish in the role of punishing you if you make an error that puts you at their mercy. Filipinos love to make sycophants out of their own. They are overwhelmed with glee when a foreigner is at their mercy.
Ending up in a foreign prison is always a possibility when visiting or residing in a foreign country especially with the things that can go wrong with a hobby like mongering. When I resided there I gave out fake names to the girls and foreigners I came in contact with. I tried not to give out too much information.
I did make the mistake of inviting a few girls back to my various condos (bar girls and good girls alike). I was just lucky I never pissed any of them off enough to come after me.
One claim of $$pe is all it takes and your life is over.
P.S. Chocha Monger clean out your box bro.
Soapy Smith
01-03-16, 09:40
Decided to put this here rather than general information or phils politics. Maybe there's a reason nobody has previously commented on this.
The content here regarding Miss Universe (Pia Alonzo Wurtzbach) is largely of the fantasy persuasion, but, let's face it, this woman's beauty epitomizes what attracts many of us to Filipinas. I would be the first to acknowledge my personal addiction to Filipina beauty. Sadly, this beautiful woman is far out of reach for all us ISG riff-raff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCwu_DnUdZk
The "drama" referenced in the video was a flub by the host, Steve Harvey, who misread the cue card and initially announced Miss Colombia as the winner, when she was actually first runner up. So the crown had to be unceremoniously taken from Miss Colombia's head and then given to Miss Philippines, robbing both women of their dignity.
Somebody previously referenced how the Philippines' national identity is embodied in a boxer; perhaps Pia Wurtzbach is an improvement--minimally. She certainly is much more pleasing to look at. But her response to the question about American military in the Philippines wasn't exactly "critically" engaging, although it suggested an astute reading of the situation--Las Vegas, American host, four American judges. So, following her show business career, she may qualify for Philippine politics--although not for the presidency, since she was born in Stuttgart. Or perhaps like other gifted Filipinos, she settles down in London, where her mother and sister apparently make their home. Sadly, as attractive, gracious, and charming as she appears to be, I think she and her three-year dogged pursuit for winning at beauty pageantry sort of epitomize the dominant cult of personality that exemplifies the Philippines. So a beautiful Filipina who is allegedly fluent in five languages--but graduated from a culinary institute In San Juan City NCR--has become expert at pleasing and complying with instructions and expectations. What she accomplished would seem to define the personal and nationalistic aspirations of many Filipinos. The internet is full of videos of exuberant reactions from Filipinos in their homes and businesses. Check out this reaction from a gaggle of call center agents, presumably the vanguard of college-educated young Filipinos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOyMcJdtQeY
Okay, enough philosophizing. Now on to the prurient content. D Cups, this is for you.
The swimsuit competition was clearly a defining moment in the pageant. One of the judges, Perez Hilton (a g-y entertainment blogger), describing why she won, commented on her "fierceness" in the swimsuit competition, "with her big old titties jiggling all over. " Really, just check out all the suso bounce from Pia by comparison to the other women. OMG!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nH4kXCupeo
So now there's a running debate in comments left with various videos as to whether they're natural or fake. Perez Hilton suggested they were fake, but other men seem to be evenly divided; women mostly think this kind of fluid, uniform bounce only comes from natural breast tissue. Anybody care to weigh in?
A) They're fake.
B) They're natural.
C) My idea: official pageant information says she is 34 B-23-35; I think they're natural but really more like C or D cup, and the bounce is the result of deliberately trying to harness them in a B cup swimsuit top.
Finally, I wonder if this Philippine cult of personality is contagious to frequent visitors. How else to explain my own obsession with this? I mean, imagine what's involved in having viewed all these videos and gleaned all this background information.
Sadly, this beautiful woman is far out of reach for all us ISG riff-raff.Riff-raff? Thanks a lot mate, LOL!
Anyway, she's all yours. No offence but she's just not my type of girl. I don't like her mouth and eyes in particular. For all I know she could be a ladyboy. But again, no offence, just my opinion.
Soapy Smith
01-03-16, 10:14
Riff-raff? Thanks a lot mate, LOL!
Anyway, she's all yours. No offence but she's just not my type of girl. I don't like her mouth and eyes in particular. For all I know she could be a ladyboy. But again, no offence, just my opinion.Actually, in the ongoing feuding comments between Miss Colombia's Latino supporters and Pia supporters, there are numerous comments to the effect that Miss Colombia's squarish jaw makes her look like a ladyboy. I personally find the high cheeks of Filipinas quite attractive, but by comparison to makeup-free photos of Pia, she seems to have used makeup quite skillfully to tone down her high cheekbones for actual pageant competition. She apparently did her own makeup at the Miss U pageant. And I agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In my eye this is a very beautiful woman.
Thanks for the video clips, Soapy. Very much enjoyed the susu bounce. I would say she is a Bee Cup borderline Cee. Her small frame, taut tummy and ability to jiggle bounce those beautiful boobs make them seem bigger. I think she's gorgeous and I am very happy for the Philippines. QUOTE=Soapy Smith;1821365. The Cups, this is for you.
MickeyUSA67
01-05-16, 19:24
Hi,
Well I am over on the Taipei forum asking for help so I thought I would add my experience about the Philippines. So I have been to Olongapo, Manila & Sabang doing some mongering.
My last trip to Sabang I first went on to Filipino cupid and went thru about 200 girls that want to go with me. The problem with Filipino is they want a life time commitment before they date you. So I went on and just told them that I was married and looking for a girlfriend / mistress to come with me. WOW you would not believe the interest I got well over 200 woman. I was able to rent a 6 bedroom villa with full house staff for 10 days really cheap 1200 $ usd right on the bay in Sabang.
So she met me at the airport and we spent are first night in Manila. Sex was OK so we left for Sabang the next day. After 3 days I realized the sex was not going to get any better so (I hate to say this) I sent her ass home on the next boat.
I ended up sleeping with the one of my maids and a few bar girls.
So I am gearing up for this year and have booked my flight with a 22 hour layover in Taipei. I have found a cute Filipino that says she a party girl and can't wait to join me. Of course you can't pay for sex that would be illegal but I did offer to pay her for her time away from work at 20,000 peso ($400 usd) For 10 nights with me. To them that is a shit load of peso.
If I can be of any help to you brothers with my experience in Philippines let me know be happy to help.
BrainDrain
01-06-16, 05:12
It might just be my middle age, but young cute Filipina that I meet on my Philippines travels are really addictive. Not all of them, just 1, 2, 3 or 4 of them per day.
In the past year I took the move to discard my sim card and associated number from each trip, I even closed my email accounts and discarded my record of previous girl numbers. At the time when writing on this forum many of the cute 24 yr old party girls were now 28-29 and looking for husbands. It was time to refresh my talent pool.
Now I find myself a few weeks out from landing back into RP and would love to have a sprinkling of some reliable performers.
In particular, I'm thinking of a random girl I met in High Society (AC) nightclub. I didn't pick he up, she picked me up. With P250 in my pocket I wasn't much of a catch. But she was quite the performer. In addition to her skills in bed she was very attentive to me, folding my clothes, looking after me etc. Etc. She stayed for two days.
Almost impossible to find again, she may have gone home, be with another guy for the week I'm there.
But I'm also happy to move on, there are another million just like her.
Just thought I'd share these thoughts on how some pinay really steal our hearts!
BD.
Blanquiceleste
01-06-16, 15:30
So I am gearing up for this year and have booked my flight with a 22 hour layover in Taipei. I have found a cute Filipino that says she a party girl and can't wait to join me. Of course you can't pay for sex that would be illegal but I did offer to pay her for her time away from work at 20,000 peso ($400 usd) For 10 nights with me. To them that is a shit load of peso.
If I can be of any help to you brothers with my experience in Philippines let me know be happy to help.I hope you really like her and the sex is great. 20,000 PHP is indeed a shit load of money in the Philippines. Most bars in Angeles pay the stage girls between 150 - 180 per night. The real cute dancers get about 200 - 250 a night. So the average "monthly salary" is 4,500 - 7,500 PHP. Commissions from drinks, barfines and tips would be another 10,000 at best. So you are actually paying her a full month salary in exchange for 10 days of pussy. Ask yourself, is this a wise deal?
I can only say stay safe and don't wave the cash. I am sure you would have RTFF and gathered enough intel to have a good time here. Do share your adventures with us, we will look forward to it. Cheers.
Blanquiceleste
01-06-16, 15:32
It might just be my middle age, but young cute Filipina that I meet on my Philippines travels are really addictive.
SNIP
In particular, I'm thinking of a random girl I met in High Society (AC) nightclub. I didn't pick he up, she picked me up. With P250 in my pocket I wasn't much of a catch. But she was quite the performer. In addition to her skills in bed she was very attentive to me, folding my clothes, looking after me etc. Etc. She stayed for two days.
Ahh! The wonderful intricacies of the Pinay mind. One can never fathom. As Mogwai said, I dpn't bother getting into their heads as long as I can get into their panties.
MickeyUSA67
01-06-16, 17:25
I hope you really like her and the sex is great. 20,000 PHP is indeed a shit load of money in the Philippines. Most bars in Angeles pay the stage girls between 150 - 180 per night. The real cute dancers get about 200 - 250 a night. So the average "monthly salary" is 4,500 - 7,500 PHP. Commissions from drinks, barfines and tips would be another 10,000 at best. So you are actually paying her a full month salary in exchange for 10 days of pussy. Ask yourself, is this a wise deal?
I can only say stay safe and don't wave the cash. I am sure you would have RTFF and gathered enough intel to have a good time here. Do share your adventures with us, we will look forward to it. Cheers.Yha I know its a lot but they treat me like a king.
I have been married to a Philippine for ten years and she does not mind that I go there alone every summer.
I don't mind paying more for the service I want. Not just sex but completely at my service. I work hard all year and this is my time to just be king.
Yha I know its a lot but they treat me like a king.
I have been married to a Philippine for ten years and she does not mind that I go there alone every summer.
I don't mind paying more for the service I want. Not just sex but completely at my service. I work hard all year and this is my time to just be king.In my opinion, P2 K a day is not a shit load of money for the value you are receiving. In comparison to st rates it is a bargain. But who's comparing?
In my opinion, P2 K a day is not a shit load of money for the value you are receiving. In comparison to st rates it is a bargain. But who's comparing?I agree with Dg. If I take girl from Cebu several days I pay 1500 - 2000 pesos a day. Exelent value for the money. Remember to try the girl first.
Hi,
Well I am over on the Taipei forum asking for help so I thought I would add my experience about the Philippines. So I have been to Olongapo, Manila & Sabang doing some mongering.
My last trip to Sabang I first went on to Filipino cupid and went thru about 200 girls that want to go with me. The problem with Filipino is they want a life time commitment before they date you. So I went on and just told them that I was married and looking for a girlfriend / mistress to come with me. WOW you would not believe the interest I got well over 200 woman. I was able to rent a 6 bedroom villa with full house staff for 10 days really cheap 1200 $ usd right on the bay in Sabang..
So I am gearing up for this year and have booked my flight with a 22 hour layover in Taipei. I have found a cute Filipino that says she a party girl and can't wait to join me. Of course you can't pay for sex that would be illegal but I did offer to pay her for her time away from work at 20,000 peso ($400 usd) For 10 nights with me. To them that is a shit load of peso.
If I can be of any help to you brothers with my experience in Philippines let me know be happy to help.Two points:
Firstly, its a shame that you did not have the numbers for the better Sabang bar girls. They will jump at the chance at a holiday at 1500-2000 PHP a day and as a repeat customer they do their best to keep you happy.
Secondly I totally concur with your experience with online pickups of pinays and their responses. I'm in the process of using Indonesian Cupid and AsiaDating (not DIA) to organize a travel companion in Bali. Responses from Indonesians have been muted but I have been flooded with pinays to the point that I am questioning if my "searching for" settings are correct. .
Enjoy.
MickeyUSA67
01-07-16, 01:38
Two points:
Firstly, its a shame that you did not have the numbers for the better Sabang bar girls. They will jump at the chance at a holiday at 1500-2000 PHP a day and as a repeat customer they do their best to keep you happy.
Secondly I totally concur with your experience with online pickups of pinays and their responses. I'm in the process of using Indonesian Cupid and AsiaDating (not DIA) to organize a travel companion in Bali. Responses from Indonesians have been muted but I have been flooded with pinays to the point that I am questioning if my "searching for" settings are correct. .
Enjoy.I still chat with the girls from Sabang and they are waiting for me to return. I want a new adventure again.
Dark Knight1
01-13-16, 20:06
MANILA, Philippines A disabled American filed, on Tuesday, estafa charges against his Filipina caregiver for allegedly duping him of P915,000.
Marvin Hensel, 57, said since being hired, Leah Caparida, 33, borrowed money from him for 21 times. He said he gave her cash in 20 out of the 21 instances she asked for a loan.
In an affidavit submitted to the Manila Police District general assignment section, Hensel said he was filing 20 counts of estafa against her.
He said Caparida started borrowing money in May 2015.
She often claimed that she needed the cash for hospitalization.
Since then, almost every week, Hensel would lend Caparida money, sometimes in dollars, sometimes in peso.
On Monday afternoon, Caparida attempted to borrow P27,000 to pay her bills in a Bulacan hospital.
"I refused (to give her the money) after I confirmed with the hospital. That there is no such patient in her name," Hensel said. SFM.
Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/134131/american-accuses-filipina-caregiver-of-duping-him-of-p915k.
"I refused (to give her the money) after I confirmed with the hospital. That there is no such patient in her name," Hensel said. SFM.Interesting.
I met a college student (Hotel Restaurant Management) on my last trip in Manila for a couple of dinner dates. She claims to be a good girl but I never believe anything a girl tells me. Which is why I am asking this question. She is doing her second and final OJT prior to graduation and says that the OJT hotel wants 41.5 Kphp (about $880 US) for 700 hours of experience (she basically pays to work there for 5 months). Of course, she is hinting that I could pay for it. Is OJT really this expensive? Who the hell can afford to pay that, as a 19 year old? Is she pulling my leg, or as the Aussies say, 'taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)'? Someone is getting scammed here, either me or her.
P.S. I know a HRM degree is worthless. Everyone on DIA is either majoring in Tourism or HRM. Someone needs to hit the guidance counselors 'upside the head', as we in the South say.
Fastpiston
01-19-16, 17:19
Never pay for a college girl's so called 'work experience'. The money will usually go to a Filipino boyfriend experience!
Do not spend money for a girls college fees.
Do not send money for the sick carabao.
Having such a 'girlfriend' will become very expensive.
Read past posts, do not think your Filipina is the exception!
Wicked Roger
01-20-16, 01:42
Interesting.
She is doing her second and final OJT prior to graduation and says that the OJT hotel wants 41.5 Kphp (about $880 US) for 700 hours of experience (she basically pays to work there for 5 months). Of course, she is hinting that I could pay for it. Is OJT really this expensive? P.S. I know a HRM degree is worthless. Everyone on DIA is either majoring in Tourism or HRM. Someone needs to hit the guidance counselors 'upside the head', as we in the South say.The required hours needed to complete OJT (and therefore graduate) are in that range, some universities have less some more.
OJTs have to pay for themselves as this is free labor for the employer who most times IMHO does not train them well.
The cost? That depends where the OJT is. If close to home is small but if the OJT is in another city someone has to stump up the cash to pay for that.
Second OJT? Not heard of that one as generally this is completed towards the end of the course.
I know a few girls on OJT currently. One is in IT and is paid a transport allowance, but lives in the same city so she has a small room / board fee only. Same for another but both these girls are not HRm / tourism.
The HRM crew tend to struggle to find OJT work (as way too many looking for a chance) and some employers are unscrupulous also.
If you want to support this ask about why a second OJT, where is it, what hotel / resto (name so you can Google), ask what the cost involves (should be room, food, transport but watch out if in another city it could be airfare also).
Just my 2 cents but pays to ask as I know some are genuine and they do need help (I have helped one before and I know it was genuine as are the 2 I quoted above also).
FreebieFan
01-20-16, 01:55
MANILA, Philippines A disabled American filed, on Tuesday, estafa charges against his Filipina caregiver for allegedly duping him of P915,000.
Marvin Hensel, 57, said since being hired, Leah Caparida, 33, borrowed money from him for 21 times. He said he gave her cash in 20 out of the 21 instances she asked for a loan.
In an affidavit submitted to the Manila Police District general assignment section, Hensel said he was filing 20 counts of estafa against her.
He said Caparida started borrowing money in May 2015.
She often claimed that she needed the cash for hospitalization.
Since then, almost every week, Hensel would lend Caparida money, sometimes in dollars, sometimes in peso.
On Monday afternoon, Caparida attempted to borrow P27,000 to pay her bills in a Bulacan hospital.
"I refused (to give her the money) after I confirmed with the hospital. That there is no such patient in her name," Hensel said. SFM.
Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/134131/american-accuses-filipina-caregiver-of-duping-him-of-p915k.And when girls read stories like this, they realise that asking money from Johnny Foreigner might not be a bad thing, especially if they have a teary heart rending story. After all this maid succeeded 20 times!!
And when girls read stories like this, they realise that asking money from Johnny Foreigner might not be a bad thing, especially if they have a teary heart rending story. After all this maid succeeded 20 times!!You are assuming one reads newspapers. I have not met a Filipina that read a newspaper yet.
This kind of thing happens in every country. Not a specialty in Philippines. Happens the most with grown ass children teary eyes scamming their father.
Wicked Roger
01-20-16, 05:32
You are assuming one reads newspapers. I have not met a Filipina that read a newspaper yet.
This kind of thing happens in every country. Not a specialty in Philippines. Happens the most with grown ass children teary eyes scamming their father.If it does not appear in Facebook why would they know? They believe some of the trash news that Facebook people posts and really think it is reality. Why read a newspaper when it does not cover the real news pinays like such as white skinned celebrity news, soap operas and the like LOL.
Streetlooker
01-20-16, 06:26
It might just be my middle age, but young cute Filipina that I meet on my Philippines travels are really addictive. Not all of them, just 1, 2, 3 or 4 of them per day.
In the past year I took the move to discard my sim card and associated number from each trip, I even closed my email accounts and discarded my record of previous girl numbers. At the time when writing on this forum many of the cute 24 yr old party girls were now 28-29 and looking for husbands. It was time to refresh my talent pool.
Now I find myself a few weeks out from landing back into RP and would love to have a sprinkling of some reliable performers.
In particular, I'm thinking of a random girl I met in High Society (AC) nightclub. I didn't pick he up, she picked me up. With P250 in my pocket I wasn't much of a catch. But she was quite the performer. In addition to her skills in bed she was very attentive to me, folding my clothes, looking after me etc. Etc. She stayed for two days.
Almost impossible to find again, she may have gone home, be with another guy for the week I'm there.
But I'm also happy to move on, there are another million just like her.
Just thought I'd share these thoughts on how some pinay really steal our hearts!
BD.I fall head of heals in love with every single girl I spend time with Then I divorce her and find my next true love.
The required hours needed to complete OJT (and therefore graduate) are in that range, some universities have less some more.
OJTs have to pay for themselves as this is free labor for the employer who most times IMHO does not train them well.
The cost? That depends where the OJT is. If close to home is small but if the OJT is in another city someone has to stump up the cash to pay for that.
Second OJT? Not heard of that one as generally this is completed towards the end of the course.
I know a few girls on OJT currently. One is in IT and is paid a transport allowance, but lives in the same city so she has a small room / board fee only. Same for another but both these girls are not HRm / tourism.
The HRM crew tend to struggle to find OJT work (as way too many looking for a chance) and some employers are unscrupulous also.
If you want to support this ask about why a second OJT, where is it, what hotel / resto (name so you can Google), ask what the cost involves (should be room, food, transport but watch out if in another city it could be airfare also).
Just my 2 cents but pays to ask as I know some are genuine and they do need help (I have helped one before and I know it was genuine as are the 2 I quoted above also).I knew couple of hrm students in the past and they did two ojt. One at hotel and one at restaurant. They told me that some of their classmates who could not find one basically had to pay to get one, no idea how much though. One had a local sugar daddy and I believe he paid one of the hotel managers to produce a ojt certificate without her having to do anything at the hotel. Again, no idea how much that cost.
FreebieFan
01-21-16, 01:57
If it does not appear in Facebook why would they know? They believe some of the trash news that Facebook people posts and really think it is reality. Why read a newspaper when it does not cover the real news pinays like such as white skinned celebrity news, soap operas and the like LOL.So totally true. And it will only get worse. We generally get behavior from our parents so if parents don't read papers, kids don't. Most certainly this generation has no idea what a newspaper is. Facebook has literally and figuratively dumbed down many. " I read / saw it on facebook, now converts written words into fact. Sad.
MANILA, Philippines A disabled American filed, on Tuesday, estafa charges against his Filipina caregiver for allegedly duping him of P915,000.
Marvin Hensel, 57, said since being hired, Leah Caparida, 33, borrowed money from him for 21 times. He said he gave her cash in 20 out of the 21 instances she asked for a loan.
In an affidavit submitted to the Manila Police District general assignment section, Hensel said he was filing 20 counts of estafa against her.
He said Caparida started borrowing money in May 2015.
She often claimed that she needed the cash for hospitalization.
Since then, almost every week, Hensel would lend Caparida money, sometimes in dollars, sometimes in peso.
On Monday afternoon, Caparida attempted to borrow P27,000 to pay her bills in a Bulacan hospital.
"I refused (to give her the money) after I confirmed with the hospital. That there is no such patient in her name," Hensel said. SFM.
Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/134131/american-accuses-filipina-caregiver-of-duping-him-of-p915k.I really don't understand how he was duped? He voluntarily loaned her the money each week realizing he never was repaid from previous loans. Fact: she was a bad credit risk! Fact: she lied to him about the reasons for the loan. Many people lie for something. Criminal offense?
It doesn't say he was mentally disabled or incompetent to handle his financial affairs.
If it does not appear in Facebook why would they know? They believe some of the trash news that Facebook people posts and really think it is reality. Why read a newspaper when it does not cover the real news pinays like such as white skinned celebrity news, soap operas and the like LOL.Facebook is the news media for most pinays. To the Fillipinos defense, most can not afford a newspaper. Seems to me all newspapers are printed in English, mainly to sell to foreigners. I have yet to see a newspaper in Tagalog.
I have seen girls in my room switch TV Chanel to the news station! Then afterwards to the celebrity entertainment news and soap operas.
WestCoast1
01-21-16, 04:03
Fact: she was a bad credit risk! Fact: she lied to him about the reasons for the loan. Many people lie for something. Criminal offense?Yes. Literally. Fraud (a felony). From Wiki:
In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain. Fraud is both a civil wrong (i.e., a fraud victim may sue the fraud perpetrator to avoid the fraud and/or recover monetary compensation) and a criminal wrong (i.e., a fraud perpetrator may be prosecuted and imprisoned by governmental authorities). The purpose of fraud may be monetary gain or other benefits, such as obtaining a driver's license by way of false statements.
I'd guess that its also against the Philippine RA's. However, since its a poor country, and so many people engage in the activity, there is usually little chance anyone will be prosecuted for it. DG, I will PM you something.
Wicked Roger
01-21-16, 11:05
Facebook is the news media for most pinays. To the Fillipinos defense, most can not afford a newspaper. Seems to me all newspapers are printed in English, mainly to sell to foreigners. I have yet to see a newspaper in Tagalog.
I have seen girls in my room switch TV Chanel to the news station! Then afterwards to the celebrity entertainment news and soap operas.There are some but more tabloid type newspapers, but when they look at Facebook on the phone etc I encourage them to look at Philstar, Inquirer, Daily Tribune etc for news. Some is OK some is clearly politically biased but better then Facebook.
Soap operas. They live their lies thinking what happens in the soap happens in real life, sad but true.
I knew couple of hrm students in the past and they did two ojt. One at hotel and one at restaurant. They told me that some of their classmates who could not find one basically had to pay to get one, no idea how much though. One had a local sugar daddy and I believe he paid one of the hotel managers to produce a ojt certificate without her having to do anything at the hotel. Again, no idea how much that cost.Thanks, Toronto, that mirrors what my girl says. It is probably cheaper to bribe for a completion certificate, especially if the girl can start work 5 months earlier. It all sounds like a well-regulated scam to take advantage of the students to me. Someone is getting rich.
My simple rules: 1. If it flies, floats or fucks. Rent it, don't buy it. 2. No Honey, no money.
There are some but more tabloid type newspapers, but when they look at Facebook on the phone etc I encourage them to look at Philstar, Inquirer, Daily Tribune etc for news. Some is OK some is clearly politically biased but better then Facebook.
Soap operas. They live their lies thinking what happens in the soap happens in real life, sad but true.I don't permit the soapies to be watched here unless I'm sleeping or away. My GF has now cultivated a taste for kano television. Hahahaha or that Korean channel.
Pinaypounder
02-01-16, 22:06
PP has settled down, again, I got a HOT bi girl actual bi been there done that with her and she can't wait for more. I am looking for non pro bis ACTUAL BIS girl that enjoy girl on girl sex. My GF needs sex with a girl when I am not there. She has have chatted with so many fucking posers so many men with female profiles, so many women who just fantasize, the woman just wants a woman to make her cum!
She met one last week and it was poor, my girl is aggressive and wonderfully fun.
This is not about 3 somes its about my girl getting a piece of tail not attached to a dick. I am not paying money to have my GF fuck another girl, I will pay for the room.
Your help and support would be appreciated.
PP.
Mr Enternational
02-11-16, 13:32
If you find a good one you better keep her. I like the way she was all over it before I had to tell her.
I will be visiting the Philippines the end of March. I've set up about 3 or 4 beautiful filipinas to meet me when I get there.
The strange thing is they are so absolutely beautiful but their mentality and common sense is lacking. My number one who is a very cute 5 foot Filipina. I jokingly asked her if she will dance naked for me in my hotel room.
She said," no way "but she's known for sucking a good dick with foreigners that is no problem. But she was offended that I would ask her to dance naked. Meanwhile she is a Go Go bar dancer at one of the clubs in Angeles City. SMH.
One of the senior members gave me a good analogy.
When one goes to Disney World enjoy your vacation. But you never bring Cinderella and Minnie Mouse back home.
One should never try to comprehend and understand Minnie Mouse and Cinderella. You enjoy them for the moment and you enjoy them for who they are.
Your misuse of quotes makes it hard to understand your post. Their common sense is different than yours. So be it. Agree that some go go dancers get shy in the room. Dancing on a stage with her friends is a bit different than dancing on a bed in front of some strange guy. And we are all strange, aren't we?
I will be visiting the Philippines the end of March. I've set up about 3 or 4 beautiful filipinas to meet me when I get there.
The strange thing is they are so absolutely beautiful but their mentality and common sense is lacking. My number one who is a very cute 5 foot Filipina. I jokingly asked her if she will dance naked for me in my hotel room.
She said," no way "but she's known for sucking a good dick with foreigners that is no problem. But she was offended that I would ask her to dance naked. Meanwhile she is a Go Go bar dancer at one of the clubs in Angeles City. SMH.
Pinaypounder
02-16-16, 21:33
I will be visiting the Philippines the end of March. I've set up about 3 or 4 beautiful filipinas to meet me when I get there.
The strange thing is they are so absolutely beautiful but their mentality and common sense is lacking. My number one who is a very cute 5 foot Filipina. I jokingly asked her if she will dance naked for me in my hotel room.
She said," no way "but she's known for sucking a good dick with foreigners that is no problem. But she was offended that I would ask her to dance naked. Meanwhile she is a Go Go bar dancer at one of the clubs in Angeles City. SMH.Not only are they stupid they don't even bother to pay attention when you are talking to them.
You can always tell when they are chatting more than one suitor!
Truly the dumbest group I ever met but also by far the easiest to fuck!
So here we are!
PP.
Chocha Monger
02-20-16, 20:49
Filipino guys do not support their girlfriends financially, pay their tuition, and buy them motorbikes and houses. Foreigners do all of these things. Some even go to the extreme measure of abandoning their homeland to live in the Philippines with their pinay. So, what do the girls mean when they say Filipino guys are sweeter than foreigners?
BeachBoy46
02-21-16, 00:16
Filipino guys do not support their girlfriends financially, pay their tuition, and buy them motorbikes and houses. Foreigners do all of these things. Some even go to the extreme measure of abandoning their homeland to live in the Philippines with their pinay. So, what do the girls mean when they say Filipino guys are sweeter than foreigners?No Filipino girl has ever said that to me. Just the opposite really. Of course I have usually got a wad of blue notes in my hand at the time. Hehe.
Mr Enternational
02-21-16, 00:25
Filipino guys do not support their girlfriends financially, pay their tuition, and buy them motorbikes and houses. Foreigners do all of these things. Some even go to the extreme measure of abandoning their homeland to live in the Philippines with their pinay. So, what do the girls mean when they say Filipino guys are sweeter than foreigners?The accent may have thrown you off. They probably said Filipino guys are SMARTER than foreigners because they have sense enough not to be doing all that bullshit over some pussy. LOL.
Chocha Monger
02-21-16, 06:58
The accent may have thrown you off. They probably said Filipino guys are SMARTER than foreigners because they have sense enough not to be doing all that bullshit over some pussy. LOL.Foreigners are considered dim witted by Filipinos before even handing over a single peso in the Philippines because Filipino guys would not pay the average 61,980 to 95,354 pesos at current exchange rates it costs to fly there from North America just to get some pussy that they get for free at home and abroad.
I have been asked by wealthy Filipino guys why foreigners spend so much money to come to the Philippines to screw maids, fishwives and street meat. I still don't have a good answer. From their perspective foreign men are cheating themselves and should be fucking more attractive women from a higher social class. When I go to the malls in Manila and see the high quality of pussy that fat pimple-faced Filipinos have hanging off their arms I have to admit that they are smarter than most foreigners in their choice of pussy.
Western men certainly do not come across as smart and strong when they have to confess to Filipinos that they spend large amounts of money to travel to the other side of the world to fuck the help because they let pussy rule them and dictate the terms at home. So, let's not kid ourselves that any foreigner showing up to fuck in the Philippines is ahead of the game relative to the natives even if he fucks the girls sore and gives them nothing more than a pussy full of sperm. Even sexual shoplifters incur financial costs in the process of getting to and spending time at the scene of the sexual shoplifting.
BigRig2007
02-21-16, 08:40
I will be visiting the Philippines the end of March. I've set up about 3 or 4 beautiful filipinas to meet me when I get there.
The strange thing is they are so absolutely beautiful but their mentality and common sense is lacking. My number one who is a very cute 5 foot Filipina. I jokingly asked her if she will dance naked for me in my hotel room.
She said," no way "but she's known for sucking a good dick with foreigners that is no problem. But she was offended that I would ask her to dance naked. Meanwhile she is a Go Go bar dancer at one of the clubs in Angeles City. SMH.Most Filipinos are good at acting sexy, especially when they are with their friends I. E taking sexy "looking" pictures and what not (not naked, just posing) they pat each other on the butt and act like they are all horny and shit, but when it comes down to it, most are very conservative in bed. There are a lot of Filipinos here in Hawaii and I have dated a lot of them so maybe this pertains more to "regular" girls, not bar girls, but I think the general cultural principle is the same. Most are Christians and are raised, inherently, with a stricter view on sex than, say Buddhists like Thai girls who don't possess that stigma, culturally. Also, I don't think they are stupid, just really lazy and master manipulators (like most women). Why do something yourself when you can get someone else to do it for you. I used to have one FTF girl that used to call me all the time to ask how much something was or where something was or where do I park, when she could have googled that shit just as easy as I could. Anyway, that's just my opinion. I wouldn't date a Filipino again. They take great care of you but damn if you don't have to take care of everything else because they are incapable of doing anything practical.
Filipino guys do not support their girlfriends financially, pay their tuition, and buy them motorbikes and houses. Foreigners do all of these things. Some even go to the extreme measure of abandoning their homeland to live in the Philippines with their pinay. So, what do the girls mean when they say Filipino guys are sweeter than foreigners?I've met several uni educated Filipinas from middle to upper middle-class backgrounds who supported their boyfriends' studies for years. Soon after he completed his degree the relationship ended. When in Rome...
;)
There are plenty of older, wealthy Filipinos who support their beautiful mistresses with housing and allowances.
I have been asked by wealthy Filipino guys why foreigners spend so much money to come to the Philippines to screw maids, fishwives and street meat. I still don't have a good answer.Because it feels good to effortlessly cum in a pussy without having to first endure long discussions on the latest feminist theories or some similar crap?
When I go to the malls in Manila and see the high quality of pussy that fat pimple-faced Filipinos have hanging off their arms I have to admit that they are smarter than most foreigners in their choice of pussy.This is so true. What have these guys got that we don't? Often a big milkshake in their hand. Obesity seems to be a non-issue.
Foreigners are considered dim witted by Filipinos before even handing over a single peso in the Philippines because Filipino guys would not pay the average 61,980 to 95,354 pesos at current exchange rates it costs to fly there from North America just to get some pussy that they get for free at home and abroad.
I have been asked by wealthy Filipino guys why foreigners spend so much money to come to the Philippines to screw maids, fishwives and street meat. I still don't have a good answer. From their perspective foreign men are cheating themselves and should be fucking more attractive women from a higher social class. When I go to the malls in Manila and see the high quality of pussy that fat pimple-faced Filipinos have hanging off their arms I have to admit that they are smarter than most foreigners in their choice of pussy.
Western men certainly do not come across as smart and strong when they have to confess to Filipinos that they spend large amounts of money to travel to the other side of the world to fuck the help because they let pussy rule them and dictate the terms at home. So, let's not kid ourselves that any foreigner showing up to fuck in the Philippines is ahead of the game relative to the natives even if he fucks the girls sore and gives them nothing more than a pussy full of sperm. Even sexual shoplifters incur financial costs in the process of getting to and spending time at the scene of the sexual shoplifting.Let us consider the cost of getting laid in USA. Date, talk, dinner, movie costs money to get into the pants of a decent woman. Even then nothing is guaranteed. Yes, you can meet drunk women in bars and maybe score for free. But comes with its own problems.
Next is age factor. You may get young girls to bed with but they rarely will be interested in dating you publicly because of the notion that they will be perceived as gold diggers.
Prostitutes are everywhere but they cost sometimes more than a flight ticket to Philippines to get a decent clean one.
For me cost is nothing to enjoy a drama free fun with young Phi girls be it be girls from bar or other normal girls. In our own way we help these girls financially, treat them with kindness and reasonable respect unlike majority of their country men.
As for Phi men opinion about us they are not aware of the psyche of western women. All they see is the rosy picture from movies etc. It is not true all the girls we meet are low class according to them. They also do not know what one does for a living is not demeaning to our thinking. Of course deep down they have a resentment that we come there to fuck their women and also they think we have plenty of money. Considering the cost for us a visit to Phi and having fun is less expensive than having fun here.
Interesting comment.
Foreigners are considered dim witted by Filipinos before even handing over a single peso in the Philippines because Filipino guys would not pay the average 61,980 to 95,354 pesos at current exchange rates it costs to fly there from North America just to get some pussy that they get for free at home and abroad.It's a bit of a stretch. The Philippines doesn't have the same proportion of middle-class men who have the funds to travel freely and for leisure and hapenis. Many western countries don't have the supply of easily accessible women. I know Filipinos who've enjoyed white, blonde prostitutes when overseas; they search for it. When Japan and later Korea and Taiwan became wealthy white girls were imported to work in hostess clubs and more. Nailing a white girl is a status thing. In Vietnam nailing a Korean girl is an in thing nowadays, so Korean prostitutes are going there to cater to wealthy locals.
I have been asked by wealthy Filipino guys why foreigners spend so much money to come to the Philippines to screw maids, fishwives and street meat. I still don't have a good answer. From their perspective foreign men are cheating themselves and should be fucking more attractive women from a higher social class. When I go to the malls in Manila and see the high quality of pussy that fat pimple-faced Filipinos have hanging off their arms I have to admit that they are smarter than most foreigners in their choice of pussy.I think it's mostly due to laziness and perhaps a bit of fear of venturing into unknown areas. There are a few well-established areas that cater to foreigners and this requires little more than being there. It's too easy. Most fellas who live overseas are out of the loop when it comes to chasing anything else; sure, some put in the effort online long before arriving, if they do ever come. Mostly, white guys like ugly "exotic beauties", which dusky maids certainly are. ;)
I think such sentiment by local men may be a face-saving method too. If you have it in mind that only the most undesirable girls go with foreigners you can still look down rather than look at reality. It's less ball kicking. Yes, plenty of foreign fellas go with less attractive women, but I know and have seen plenty who do very well with local beauties too.
I'm sure there are several other reasons. Only ugly girls go with foreign men. Cherrypie Garcia goes with foreign men. Cherrypie Garica is ugly. Duck logic. It's a way of controlling women through indirect means.
Life is made up of multiple facets. Looking through only one side gives one a view, but not a complete one. Whenever I hear of "the one reason" it's usually the idea of a simpleton.
Western men certainly do not come across as smart and strong when they have to confess to Filipinos that they spend large amounts of money to travel to the other side of the world to fuck the help because they let pussy rule them and dictate the terms at home. So, let's not kid ourselves that any foreigner showing up to fuck in the Philippines is ahead of the game relative to the natives even if he fucks the girls sore and gives them nothing more than a pussy full of sperm. Even sexual shoplifters incur financial costs in the process of getting to and spending time at the scene of the sexual shoplifting.Perhaps I missed something. Is someone saying foreigners are ahead of the game relative to locals? That's rarely if ever the case anywhere in the world.
I have been asked by wealthy Filipino guys why foreigners spend so much money to come to the Philippines to screw maids, fishwives and street meat. I still don't have a good answer. From their perspective foreign men are cheating themselves and should be fucking more attractive women from a higher social class.Obviously these are upper class, wealthy foreigners who are slumming in the Philippines as they need variety because they are tired of fucking attractive higher social class women in their home countries.
Let us consider the cost of getting laid in USA. Date, talk, dinner, movie costs money to get into the pants of a decent woman. Even then nothing is guaranteed. Yes, you can meet drunk women in bars and maybe score for free. But comes with its own problems.
Next is age factor. You may get young girls to bed with but they rarely will be interested in dating you publicly because of the notion that they will be perceived as gold diggers.
Prostitutes are everywhere but they cost sometimes more than a flight ticket to Philippines to get a decent clean one.
For me cost is nothing to enjoy a drama free fun with young Phi girls be it be girls from bar or other normal girls. In our own way we help these girls financially, treat them with kindness and reasonable respect unlike majority of their country men.
As for Phi men opinion about us they are not aware of the psyche of western women. All they see is the rosy picture from movies etc. It is not true all the girls we meet are low class according to them. They also do not know what one does for a living is not demeaning to our thinking. Of course deep down they have a resentment that we come there to fuck their women and also they think we have plenty of money. Considering the cost for us a visit to Phi and having fun is less expensive than having fun here.Wealthy Filipino men and westerners that travel to Asia or Philippines for pinays, either don't know or have forgotten.
The typical self-centered, materialistic, overweight, non sexual, Sex in the City attitude, might suck your dick maybe on your birthday once a year American-Western women. The result of years of paying child support, alimony, rent, mortgages, healthcare, college expenses car payments, to sit home and jerk off to a video of a woman that you would never have?
By traveling I can meet, interact, get intimate with wonderful and beautiful women. That only celebrities, athletes and multi-millionaires have access to in the West.
GoodEnough
02-24-16, 05:22
I think the secret to enjoying your time here--or anywhere outside of your cultural milieu--is to accept the trade-offs that one culture offers versus another. Here, as with other areas of the region, guys between the ages of 18 and death enjoy ready, hassle-free access to SWTs with none of the baggage attributed to Western women. And if it's sex and sweetness you're after, then the trade-offs are worth it. If it's a more general sharing of intellect, of ideas, of cultural values and substantive discussion for which you search, the odds against finding that here are extremely small. Many long-termers here establish reasonably close relationships with other expatriates for the latter, and thus meet their needs--for both sex and affection and intellectual stimulation--by keeping a foot in each world. This is, in many respects, a hopeless basket case of a country with very little possibility of meaningful improvement, and I'm still learning, even after more than ten years, not to struggle against that which can't be changed while appreciating what the country has to offer. When and if it ever gets to the point that the latter is simply not worth the trade-off, then it's time to leave. I expect however, that at least for Westerners, once we leave the comfort of Western cultures, the dichotomy is the same wherever we may choose to go.
GE.
BrainDrain
02-24-16, 07:16
I will be visiting the Philippines the end of March. I've set up about 3 or 4 beautiful filipinas to meet me when I get there.
The strange thing is they are so absolutely beautiful but their mentality and common sense is lacking. My number one who is a very cute 5 foot Filipina. I jokingly asked her if she will dance naked for me in my hotel room.
She said," no way "but she's known for sucking a good dick with foreigners that is no problem. But she was offended that I would ask her to dance naked. Meanwhile she is a Go Go bar dancer at one of the clubs in Angeles City. SMH.Can I suggest that you need to reset your activities and plans for your Philippines visit. In my experience:
You don't need to set up meetings with 3-4 beautiful filipinas if they are Go Go Bar dancers. Even if they are bar dancers they will be incredibly unreliable and want you to meet them at 5 am in the morning. Or 4 pm before their shift. They get fined if they don't do their shift.
For me, the idea of the pre-work is to find the hidden gems, the non-bar girls, the legitimate uni Students, the formal dates. These girls still might like some financial support but are different to bargirls.
Also, the danger in making too much contact 4-6 weeks out from your March visit is that you will consume all of their conversation and tire of them. 2 weeks is the most that is needed to create a good short list.
BD.
<SNIP>. . . ". . . I'm still learning, even after more than ten years, not to struggle against that which can't be changed while appreciating what the country has to offer. When and if it ever gets to the point that the latter is simply not worth the trade-off, then it's time to leave. I expect however, that at least for Westerners, once we leave the comfort of Western cultures, the dichotomy is the same wherever we may choose to go.GE. I am glad to read your toned-down realization that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.
As you know, I have lived here permanently for 20 years; I own my own condo in Ortigas and enjoy my life immensely because I have work to occupy my mind. In addition to working in the Philippines, I have lots of opportunities to work in other SE Asian destinations, and I have just completed a 50-day assignment across Lao PDR (Laos). Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand and each visit to another country reinforces my belief that the Philippines is the best place in this region for a westerner to comfortably reside.
The most compelling reasons are language and infrastructure (despite the oft-mentioned criticism of poor infrastructure in Philippines). The plethora of malls, restaurants, cinemas showing new-release movies in English (no sub-titles) in Manila (specifically, Ortigas Center in Pasig) and most other regional cities are way way better than every other SE Asian city (even Bangkok).
It is so much easier doing business in the Philippines. In every one of the countries I mentioned, I needed an interpreter beside me at all times when working, and especially when I went outside of the capital city, which my work required me to do often. In SE Laos, in a hamlet near the Vietnamese border, I could not survive on my own, as there were no english menus nor any pictures for me to show what I wanted to eat so I relied on my "minders". The possible exception was Thailand, but even in Bkk it was still difficult to communicate at all levels, whether with senior academics or the bargirls of Nana and Soi Cowboy, although the touristy parts of Sukhumvit understood me well enough. Who wants to spend the rest of their life in lower Sukhumvit?
As soon as you stray out of Bkk, you really do need to speak Thai or life becomes that little bit more stressful.
Note that I am talking about long-term residency when I refer to the difficulties experienced in countries other than the Philippines. Part of the joys of travel off the beaten track as a tourist are struggling with language, foods etc in environments where non-Asians are rare. I am referring to actually living long-term in one of these countries, a topic that is discussed frequently on these boards.
For me, Ortigas has everything that I need within an easy walk. 5 big malls plus lots of smaller restaurants dotted around in Greenhills, Cubao and QC. Choice of gyms. I can go to Makati when and if necessary and if I think the traffic won't snarl my mood. I can ignore the frustrating experiences of traffic to and from the airport because going through there is not a daily event. I can go to Cebu, Iloilo, Davao, Northern Luzon when I want. I cannot recall the last time there was no electric power in my condo (it's years ago, not months) and the annoyances of needing to visit Immigration for reports etc or the LTO for licence renewals are easily accommodated because they occur every 3 to 5 years.
I think that I live comfortably because I have leaned, as GE said in the quote at the top of this post, to accept the things that I cannot change. If I left, where would I go?
The only real option for me is to return to hum-drum suburbia in Australia, and although I enjoy greatly my 3 to 4 weeks annual visits back in Oz, I don't wish to live there again.
Hi RK, GE and other readers. Your comments echo my thoughts on SEA and are the reasons I am still planning on retiring in the PI in 2022/3. I like RK's idea of returning to the homeland a few weeks a year but have no desire to live in the USA in retirement. With maybe a side trip to the DR / land of the big boobs HA! I lived in Angeles as a young air force officer many years ago and was impressed with the culture and women back then and that has stuck with me all these years and all my travels. I like that it's ok for an old guy like me (60) to be with a beautiful, sexy 20 something or 30 something and it's more or less accepted there. In the US I'd be ostracized and she'd become culturally polluted by Western women eventually taking half or more of my life's earnings as well as my zest for life. As I have said before the Filipinas are about as sweet as they come. Not intellectual but who cares? As GE said we have our Western mates for that. I am still considering Dumaguete / Valencia as my new home with its large expat population, college students, geography and small town feel. There is a recording studio there so I can put down some tracks with Filipino musician-friends; and possibly guest lecture if the opportunity arises. Hopefully take a few side trips a year to visit friends in Cebu, AC, Subic or elsewhere in PI or SEA. It's so cheap there and they seem to honor the family and the elderly which is absent in most of the Western world. Just my. 02.
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The most compelling reasons are language and infrastructure (despite the oft-mentioned criticism of poor infrastructure)].
Mr Enternational
02-24-16, 17:25
I lived in Angeles as a young air force officer many years ago and was impressed with the culture Which aspects of the culture impressed you?
Which aspects of the culture impressed you?Hi E, the locals invited me to their homes for meals and made me feel very comfortable and respected. I knew the mayor. The girls are amazingly sweet and sexy. They love sex! The Filipinos are quite musical and as an amateur musician it is easy to jam with them to 70's classic American / British rock. I love lumpia and San Miguel lemon. I was getting laid left and right then, mostly non-pros, and even more now that I am older. Yes, there is poverty, theft, traffic, pollution, hygiene issues but no more than other parts of the world, even here in California. Plus the dollar goes a long way. I am sure you know most of these things but perhaps you have different take?
BrainDrain
03-07-16, 23:45
So, about 14 months ago I met a beautiful filipina on Mindano. We've kept in contact but by looking at her Facebook account I can see she also has dated other foreigner guys. Met with her just last month again and had more good times. I'm back in Australia now and not likely to see her again for a few months.
She doesn't ask for any money ever. She says she loves me.
Interestingly in the last few weeks her pocket wifi no longer works and she can only contact me via her work wifi ie only chats me while she is at work.
I did call her in the middle of the night just to see and she was alone in her boarding house.
One part of me though wants to believe that she really is a loyal student doing her best to pass her degree with flying colours.
Last year, I initiated a 'breakup' after I left and a 'reconciliation' just before i arrived again. Maybe it's that time again.
Given the reality that I can see her for at most about one week per year and I have no intention of marrying her, how do I rationalise the lying that she does to cover her other foreigners?
BD.
So, about 14 months ago I met a beautiful filipina on Mindano. We've kept in contact but by looking at her Facebook account I can see she also has dated other foreigner guys. Met with her just last month again and had more good times. I'm back in Australia now and not likely to see her again for a few months.
She doesn't ask for any money ever. She says she loves me.
Interestingly in the last few weeks her pocket wifi no longer works and she can only contact me via her work wifi ie only chats me while she is at work.
I did call her in the middle of the night just to see and she was alone in her boarding house.
One part of me though wants to believe that she really is a loyal student doing her best to pass her degree with flying colours.
Last year, I initiated a 'breakup' after I left and a 'reconciliation' just before i arrived again. Maybe it's that time again.
Given the reality that I can see her for at most about one week per year and I have no intention of marrying her, how do I rationalise the lying that she does to cover her other foreigners?
BD.Most if not all Phil girls have foreigner Facebook friends that they have never met. Same with 75% of their Phil friends that have never met. For some reason Phil people just add friends!
As I understand it, you have never given her any money or help? She has never asked you for help. I would move her to the top of my list!
I don't see any evidence of her lying. She just may not have any money for her pocket wifi.
Out of curiosity, what is it that makes you her BF? You have no intentions to further this "relationship"?
Given the reality that I can see her for at most about one week per year and I have no intention of marrying her, how do I rationalise the lying that she does to cover her other foreigners?
BD.Sorry, but you expect too much. Enjoy your one week per annum with her and let her live her life. For your "rationalising", there's no need for you to do so at all. You don't want to give her exclusivity, which is fine, but you seem to expect it from her. Someone's lost the plot.
WestCoast1
03-08-16, 06:47
Out of curiosity, what is it that makes you her BF? You have no intentions to further this "relationship"?A thought that exists in the mind of every woman (but often escapes men): There comes a point in every relationship where, if the relationship is not moving forward, it is moving backward.
BrainDrain
03-09-16, 03:05
Sorry, but you expect too much. Enjoy your one week per annum with her and let her live her life. For your "rationalising", there's no need for you to do so at all. You don't want to give her exclusivity, which is fine, but you seem to expect it from her. Someone's lost the plot.Thanks everyone for the various replies so far. I know it's a game. Like DG8787 mentioned I have moved her to the top of my list and happy to help her out with her attitude and expanding her horizons.
I've met lots of others but this girl really stole my heart when I first met her and she's done nothing to make me doubt her commitment.
I think I just don't want to be seen as a fool to find that in two years time she gets married to a westerner whom she's been dating all this time.
So, the issue is certainly on my part, if I'm happy to meet others I just assume the same for her. But perhaps that's also not fair on her.
BD.
Pulled from Davao Thread death of DS.
Having read his many reports I believe he made 3-4 kids with different mothers. As I understand he was taking care of kids. Now that he is gone I do not know if he has made a will or deposited enough money for them. I doubt whether they will have any legal rights to whatever assets he had in US. Even claim to his life insurance is in question unless he has filed paternity papers with US embassy and they investigated it and acted favorably. I believe he willingly wanted children.
A tip to those who wants to father a child. File paternity papers even if means child support payments. At least when the child is older he or she can settle in his country.If your not from the US you this doesn't apply to you but.
One benefit that wouldn't cost the dead father a thing is that if he is a US citizen, specifically and he kicks the bucket with a little kid in the Phils and he has established citizenship for the kid, they can file for Social Security for minor children, which will likely amount to as much or more than he was sending in "allowance" per month while he was alive and the kid, well the mom, monthly until they are 18. Since they graduate at 16 from HS it could even cover some of what passes for college in the Phils if the mom is really a good mom.
Since there is a high percentage of February-December style child production from monger-pinay relations its an important point. If the father cares enough to establish citizenship he probably already supports the child so child support likely isn't an issue. If he has a will how much that kid gets is up to the father citizen or not.
The real lesson is if you are an old guy with grown kids, get a vasectomy before you start mongering in the Phils and avoid this situation entirely. Don't fall in love and get sucked into a late lifetime commitment you may not be around to fulfill. The bonus will be with the mostly clean province girls unprotected sex is an aphrodisiac, they don't even have to know you are sterile. It means you are 'serious'. Condoms and pulling out insults most of them anyway. Not all but most.
Soapy Smith
03-15-16, 04:31
One benefit that wouldn't cost the dead father a thing is that if he is a US citizen, specifically and he kicks the bucket with a little kid in the Phils and he has established citizenship for the kid, they can file for Social Security for minor children, which will likely amount to as much or more than he was sending in "allowance" per month while he was alive and the kid, well the mom, monthly until they are 18. Since they graduate at 16 from HS it could even cover some of what passes for college in the Phils if the mom is really a good mom.
As of the 2017-2018 academic year, the Philippines' education system will be fully K-12 rather than only through grade 10. So at that point college entrance age will be 17 or 18, depending on birthday. My hunch is that DS's kids are young enough that they won't graduate before 2018.
BrainDrain
03-17-16, 05:07
So, I am a fan of exploring the various ways that we find Filipina to spend time with. This one was a new one to me:
Through FB, friend of friend through a generic Philippines group I got chatting to a 35 year old whom is finishing up her two year stint in sexless middle-east. She's looking to meet up when she is between contracts. She'll be based in my favorite city of Cebu.
Family wise she will be staying with her sister and 2 kids. She's looking to get away with me (anyone?
A) She seems genuine, FB profile seems legit, sensible friends and posts.
B) Have had a few video chats and she hasn't flashed her tits.
C) I would be on the tab for the accommodation and food costs.
D) Seems to be another way to get an end result.
E) Would be good to have an exit clause.
My concern are.
A) Would be good to meet her before she runs off and dirties herself with a local pinoy. I wonder how sexless her mid-east country really is.
B) Last time I met with an older pinay maid in HK, she really abused my body. Fucked me senseless all night.
C) Last time I was waiting two tears for a pinay to return from Saudi, the girl bailed in month 23 and married a pinoy.
So, my question to the experienced forum members.
A) has this model of meeting a returning OFW worked for anyone.
Any expectations?
BD.
So, my question to the experienced forum members.
A) has this model of meeting a returning OFW worked for anyone.
Don't be deluded into thinking that because she is returning from the ME she will be desperately sex-starved. I would imagine that she is chatting to many guys (not just you) and probably has been chatting for all the time she has been away.
She may also have been fraternising with her fellow pinoy OFWs in her off times. I have heard that there is a lot of "fraternising" between the pinoy / pinays in the ME because they can hide it away easily.
I met a returning OFW once who was back in the Phils in between her shifts. Her primary reason for meeting someone was to have somewhere to stay in Manila while she processed her papers (she came from a province).
I have also met an OFW who was in Manila getting her papers prior to heading off on her first assignment abroad.
She had been living a boring sheltered life in her province and went crazy for the week or so that she was in Manila meeting guys and having a blast away from her family.
My advice is to treat your chatmate as you would any woman that you meet on a chat site anywhere. Nothing special about her being an OFW as far as I would be concerned.
GoodEnough
03-17-16, 10:40
Since the death of DS, I've been speaking to his family in the US, and to the mothers of the children he fathered, trying to help the kids acquire US citizenship. The US Embassy has been surprisingly helpful in responding to my queries and I've found that the path to recognition as a US citizen, while fairly straightforward, is littered with hurdles, which, had the children been registered shortly after their births, would not have existed.
Surprisingly, though DNA testing may be required subsequent to interviews at the Embassy, it is not a prerequisite to citizenship approval, provided sufficient other types of documentation are provided. Anyone interested in learning more about the process should go to the Embassy website, follow the link that leads to "Consular Registration of Births Abroad" and look at the form.
For the guys who do father kids here, and who are at all interested in their future welfare, I'd strongly suggest registering the birth of your child at the Embassy as soon as possible after birth. You will save your child a huge amount of hassle by doing this.
GE.
MrWoolyBooly
03-17-16, 11:52
My concern are.
A) Would be good to meet her before she runs off and dirties herself with a local pinoy. I wonder how sexless her mid-east country really is.
B) Last time I met with an older pinay maid in HK, she really abused my body. Fucked me senseless all night.
C) Last time I was waiting two tears for a pinay to return from Saudi, the girl bailed in month 23 and married a pinoy.
So, my question to the experienced forum members.
A) has this model of meeting a returning OFW worked for anyone.
I've known and met Pinay OFWs before, during and after their contracts. They're no less varied than Pinays in their native land. FWIW, my input is-.
A) If you're interested in her, meet her as soon as she returns. Any girl who wants sex can find it, even in the Middle East.
B) I've had great although rarer experience with older (over 25, even some over 30) Pinays. I find the mid-20's to be the sweet spot between experience and hotness.
C) I hope you mean waiting in the literal sense (continuing to live in expectation of a future event) instead of in the romantic Filipino sense (not having sex until future event occurs).
A) It has worked for me, but I never "waited" for her in the romantic Filipino sense.
Roger Sideways
03-17-16, 12:14
I will have five days and nights in Manila, in two different hotels, next month.
Thanks to a 30 day membership on Pinalove I have so many girls wanting to spend time with me I'm fighting them off with a stick. I've restricted my search to the 18-23 year olds, and I have one little spinner maid lined up for two nights, one 22 yo who is bringing her two friends (to have fun times with me, and at least four others who want to come and see me in my hotel, either alone or bringing a friend. No talk of payment, but I have promised a few cheap trinkets like bikinis and perfume.
Lord give me strength!
I was hoping to check out the Gogos at Edsa or p. Burgos, but at this rate I won't have the time or the energy.
And I'm an overweight 55 year old (although I can pass for 10 years younger so that's what I tell the girls I am).
Fun times.
Mr Enternational
03-17-16, 12:29
An old saying goes, "Don't count your chickens before they hatch. ".
RaceBannon99
03-17-16, 12:43
So, I am a fan of exploring the various ways that we find Filipina to spend time with. This one was a new one to me:
Through FB, friend of friend through a generic Philippines group I got chatting to a 35 year old whom is finishing up her two year stint in sexless middle-east. She's looking to meet up when she is between contracts. She'll be based in my favorite city of Cebu.
Family wise she will be staying with her sister and 2 kids. She's looking to get away with me (anyone?
A) She seems genuine, FB profile seems legit, sensible friends and posts.
B) Have had a few video chats and she hasn't flashed her tits.
C) I would be on the tab for the accommodation and food costs..First I would like to thank everyone for their personal experiences and pics in the Philippines forum. As an experienced, long time lurker and regular visitor to the Philippines and I will put my 1 PHP in this discussion (or like I say put you on game).
For one I think you realize you weren't the only one she was talking too (got to remember that). Is the Middle East sexless? Pussy is Pussy. The sand scorpions will fuck over they brother for that juice.
A) Of course. To Filipinos (and a majority of the world), family is love and love is family.
B) Country Girl.
C) LOL I think that's from your conversations but I'm not a pimp like that to have one pay for meals. I always pay.
D) What is your end result?
E) Be careful she'll want to follow you and of course she knows everyone in town and if she doesn't, they are cousins (don't ask).
Following your concerns, you have to know what you want. But I think you already told her that.
A) That is on you. There are services to investigate but if you get that in your mind drop her. Don't stress yourself.
B) Love the older pinay females (35-45 yo).
C) Awesome.
After the fact you are writing anonymously on a forum board as rabid as this one shows you have feelings for her. So make your own decision. I won't judge you. Got my own garbage to take out. Good Luck.
P.S. Hope this doesn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the MOD. 1st Post.
BrainDrain
03-17-16, 14:51
I've known and met Pinay OFWs before, during and after their contracts. They're no less varied than Pinays in their native land. FWIW, my input is-.
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My advice is to treat your chatmate as you would any woman that you meet on a chat site anywhere. Nothing special about her being an OFW as far as I would be concerned.Thanks for the perspective guys.
Member #4387
03-17-16, 15:13
I will have five days and nights in Manila, in two different hotels, next month.
Thanks to a 30 day membership on Pinalove I have so many girls wanting to spend time with me I'm fighting them off with a stick. I've restricted my search to the 18-23 year olds, and I have one little spinner maid lined up for two nights, one 22 yo who is bringing her two friends (to have fun times with me, and at least four others who want to come and see me in my hotel, either alone or bringing a friend. No talk of payment, but I have promised a few cheap trinkets like bikinis and perfume.
Lord give me strength!
I was hoping to check out the Gogos at Edsa or p. Burgos, but at this rate I won't have the time or the energy.
And I'm an overweight 55 year old (although I can pass for 10 years younger so that's what I tell the girls I am).
Fun times.Hehe yeah it seems like they run you down from exitement doesn't it? If maybe you arrived within the next 2/3 days you could stand a chance and the girls will still be eager to meet you. Since next month probably means April and maybe not even the beginning of April you are most likely in for a surprise. What I say is that you, from my experience, have start hitting on the girls far to early and many of them will loose interest in you and meeting you. These girls often makes simular appointments with loads of guys so when The day for a meet arises they often have to choose between guys or they can have been taken somewhere on holiday. When I used datingsites I used a 10 dayrule before my arrival and only then I started lining girls up. Even that in some cases was to long. Not giving them anything would be pure cheapo and they want money even if pinay shyness makes them not ask. There are cheap charlies here which thinks a young pinay with maybe 2-300 piso salary a day doesn't want money bcs she doesn't ask. Thats delusional at best Man up and good luck.
That beeing said u will ofcourse get girls to meet u but my guess would be u will end up with a total different crew than u think today(bcs it is quite long time until u get ur feet on phil soil). Still Thats only part of the fun. So no worries:-)
I have one little spinner maid lined up for two nights, one 22 yo who is bringing her two friends (to have fun times with me, and at least four others who want to come and see me in my hotel, either alone or bringing a friend. Lined up. Sounds like a sure thing, almost like certified pussy delivery LOL. Look forward to the FR. BTW, did you do this before?
No talk of payment, but I have promised a few cheap trinkets like bikinis and perfume.That's all sweet and dandy, but IMHO it's a very good thing to heed DonaldSucks' advice and join the Blue Note Insurance Co.
Have fun.
Raj Chopra1976
03-17-16, 16:15
Coming to Manila.
Which one is better bet pinalove or Filipino cupid membership? Please advice.
Raj
I will have five days and nights in Manila, in two different hotels, next month.
Thanks to a 30 day membership on Pinalove I have so many girls wanting to spend time with me I'm fighting them off with a stick. I've restricted my search to the 18-23 year olds, and I have one little spinner maid lined up for two nights, one 22 yo who is bringing her two friends (to have fun times with me, and at least four others who want to come and see me in my hotel, either alone or bringing a friend. No talk of payment, but I have promised a few cheap trinkets like bikinis and perfume.
Lord give me strength!
I was hoping to check out the Gogos at Edsa or p. Burgos, but at this rate I won't have the time or the energy.
And I'm an overweight 55 year old (although I can pass for 10 years younger so that's what I tell the girls I am).
Fun times.
Roger Sideways
03-17-16, 21:54
Coming to Manila.
Which one is better bet pinalove or Filipino cupid membership? Please advice.
RajI had similar success last year on a visit to Bali using Indonesian Cupid. So basically I reckon they are both pretty good.
Roger Sideways
03-17-16, 22:02
Hehe yeah it seems like they run you down from exitement doesn't it?
That beeing said u will ofcourse get girls to meet u but my guess would be u will end up with a total different crew than u think today(bcs it is quite long time until u get ur feet on phil soil). Still Thats only part of the fun. So no worries:-)Actually I an in Manila on Easter weekend for a work meeting, then the fun begins on 30 March so not that far away.
I have done this before in Bali so I know the key is to be a nice guy, and being generous costs hardly anything by our standards but makes a huge difference to the girls.
I have the threesome and three other girls messaging me daily on Pinalove and Skype so they are pretty much on the hook, but I also have a reserve list, and if I do find myself alone one evening there will always be EDSA or P. Burgos.
BrainDrain
03-17-16, 22:05
After the fact you are writing anonymously on a forum board as rabid as this one shows you have feelings for her. So make your own decision. I won't judge you. Got my own garbage to take out. Good Luck.
Congratulations on your first post. I'm glad my story got you inspired to make it, hopefully we can here more from you.
In my various posts of late, I admit that it sounds like I am getting caught up on these girls. I've been travelling to Ph over the past 5 years only. 3-4 trips per year.
What excites me is the variety of ways that we can meet girls in Ph, what each of them has that s different and how we feel about the situation.
Last two trips I've included into my itin, a 3-5 day period where the same girl stays. I'm interested in the variety of girls, the variety of meeting them and the variety of the way the relationships develop.
As for my OFW lady, if it works out that my travel takes me to Cebu in the weeks she is there then I am happy to meet her. I learned a long time ago not to make travel plans around the unknown and uncertain.
Cheers.
BD.
BrainDrain
03-17-16, 22:12
I have the threesome and three other girls messaging me daily on Pinalove and Skype so they are pretty much on the hook, but I also have a reserve list, and if I do find myself alone one evening there will always be EDSA or P. Burgos.Sounds like fun. Can I suggest not revealing to the girls your hotels until you are ready to meet them. Also I like to meet them in a coffee shop / mall first if vetting is needed.
For a two week stay you will need a long reserve list. There will be lots of reasons why girls fall through, they get shy, did they say they are in Manila? Wait and see how far some are away.
Another practice I follow is not to tell the girls the arrival date. It's easier to tell them you arrived early, than it is to juggle 4-5 girls who know you arrived but now you won't see them tonight, so they know you have other girl. Just initiate enough on your list without getting too many trying to see you at the same time.
I really miss Ph.
BD.
Roger Sideways
03-17-16, 22:30
Sounds like fun. Can I suggest not revealing to the girls your hotels until you are ready to meet them. Also I like to meet them in a coffee shop / mall first if vetting is needed.
For a two week stay you will need a long reserve list. There will be lots of reasons why girls fall through, they get shy, did they say they are in Manila? Wait and see how far some are away.
Another practice I follow is not to tell the girls the arrival date. It's easier to tell them you arrived early, than it is to juggle 4-5 girls who know you arrived but now you won't see them tonight, so they know you have other girl. Just initiate enough on your list without getting too many trying to see you at the same time.
I really miss Ph.
BD.All good advice and I have already followed most of it.
I've been deliberately vague about my arrival and departure dates with the girls, I've booked one hotel for there nights and another for two in my five night stay, and the hotel name I have given to the girls is for another hotel nearby in each case, so I can have a last minute change of plans.
BrainDrain
03-17-16, 23:15
All good advice and I have already followed most of it.
I've been deliberately vague about my arrival and departure dates with the girls.Is this your first trip in Ph?
It does take a couple of days for the speed to pickup. By the end of your 5 days you will not want to leave.
Do find time to try some random pickup ideas, it really is more fun in the Philippines.
Do you have a local SIM already or planning to get one? The girls will want / love to text to Ph number. Pick one up in arrivals.
BD.
MrWoolyBooly
03-18-16, 01:13
That beeing said u will ofcourse get girls to meet u but my guess would be u will end up with a total different crew than u think today(bcs it is quite long time until u get ur feet on phil soil). Still Thats only part of the fun. So no worries:-)Perfect description of a visit to the Philippines for meeting ladies.
Blanquiceleste
03-18-16, 01:37
An old saying goes, "Don't count your chickens before they hatch. "."Don't count your pinay pussies before you pop 'them" would be more like it in this case, I guess. All planning has been known to descend into total chaos in the Philippines, as has been often pointed out on these threads.
MrWoolyBooly
03-23-16, 01:59
Another commentator gave an account of a fella just walking out on girl, which seems to me unsporting. If there's no chemistry still enjoy a drink or meal, have a chat, and say your farewells. Excellent gentlemanly advice. I've found some unattractive surprises, but just being friendly enough to get through a drink, or fries, or whatever is worth the potential friendship and one's own dignity. For the more calculating among us, remember that bars and online 1st-date-fun girls are only the tip of the iceberg of lovely ladies in the Philippines. Having as many simple, ordinary friendships as possible with local ladies leads to unending opportunities with hotties unimaginable in any country I've ever visited.
Mr Hutsori, thank you always for your info and advice. You seem to be the most plugged in to local society among the active posters on this forum.
Mr Hutsori, thank you always for your info and advice. You seem to be the most plugged in to local society among the active posters on this forum.Nice of you to say, but long-term residents who are connected deeply like Red and GE are much more plugged in than I am. Their comments are always worth reading and thought.
Mr Enternational
03-23-16, 04:47
Nice of you to say, but long-term residents who are connected deeply like Red and GE are much more plugged in than I am. Their comments are always worth reading and thought.It appears that your comment was just from plain common sense and common courtesy.
A lot of stories have been written about Filipinas and their behavior. But we never hear about the western man.
The past three days I have been having the free breakfast buffet at a very nice hotel. Each morning a western man followed by his Pinay GF have come in within a few minutes after me. This Pinay is about 27 and the man is 60+. The Pinay is absolutely beautiful with a firm body and "see" cups. I would rate her a 8. 5 and him a 5. 0 looks wise. Each morning I have observed him always walking in front of her and never conversing with her.
I didn't notice that they were behind me waiting for the elevator. As the elevator door opened it was already full with people from the basement parking going up. The man rushed around me and jumped into the elevator leaving her behind. The Pinay and I had a brief talk waiting for the next elevator and I said her BF must be waiting for her. She replied that he never waits for her and was not very considerate and that she has accepted that. Pretty loyal woman. To my surprise she spoke good English and seemed pretty educated. She would have been on the top of my list for a GF. Very top!
When we hear stories of men bitching about pinays we need to consider the source. Possibly they are the problem.
Pinaypounder
04-17-16, 15:20
A lot of stories have been written about Filipinas and their behavior. But we never hear about the western man.
The past three days I have been having the free breakfast buffet at a very nice hotel. Each morning a western man followed by his Pinay GF have come in within a few minutes after me. This Pinay is about 27 and the man is 60+. The Pinay is absolutely beautiful with a firm body and "see" cups. I would rate her a 8. 5 and him a 5. 0 looks wise. Each morning I have observed him always walking in front of her and never conversing with her.
I didn't notice that they were behind me waiting for the elevator. As the elevator door opened it was already full with people from the basement parking going up. The man rushed around me and jumped into the elevator leaving her behind. The Pinay and I had a brief talk waiting for the next elevator and I said her BF must be waiting for her. She replied that he never waits for her and was not very considerate and that she has accepted that. Pretty loyal woman. To my surprise she spoke good English and seemed pretty educated. She would have been on the top of my list for a GF. Very top!
When we hear stories of men bitching about pinays we need to consider the source. Possibly they are the problem.Lots of men are only able to earn women with their wallet, these men are assholes on every continent. I have seen allot of this also. I have also seen some genuinely nice fellows but not many. The attitude of the average Pinay is lessening and the cost of casual sex is getting significantly higher because if this.
Its an old quote but it literally does cost nothing to be nice!
PP.
WestCoast1
04-17-16, 16:48
A lot of stories have been written about Filipinas and their behavior. But we never hear about the western man. SNIP
I didn't notice that they were behind me waiting for the elevator. As the elevator door opened it was already full with people from the basement parking going up. The man rushed around me and jumped into the elevator leaving her behind. The Pinay and I had a brief talk waiting for the next elevator and I said her BF must be waiting for her. She replied that he never waits for her and was not very considerate and that she has accepted that. Pretty loyal woman. To my surprise she spoke good English and seemed pretty educated. She would have been on the top of my list for a GF. Very top!
When we hear stories of men bitching about pinays we need to consider the source. Possibly they are the problem.Oh good lordy don't get me started on all the things I see guys doing (or saying they did) with pinay that make me think: WTF dude! Often times the source of his discontent is a cultural difference. Lets use timeliness (or the lack thereof) as an example. She shows up 90 minutes late. He berates her (sometimes in public, I love that one, so does she). Fella: Does that lead to better sex in the next few hours? Well? Think about this. I don't like tardiness anymore than the next gent. However, the overriding reason you went there big fella is to bed her. Doesn't make sense to spend big pesos to be there, followed by turning her off massively. Yet I see gents doing odd stuff routinely (that he would never do with his GF or mother in his country).
Lots of men are only able to earn women with their wallet, I think that describes almost every male / female relationship. PP said it himself by using the word 'earn'. Its easy for many of us to 'woo' women. That works in different ways: guapo, fun personality, money maybe. Even a poor boy can woo get a girl (just look around phils). However, no matter how good-looking or charming he is, no woman stays permanently with that guy who cannot support her financially (or marry her, or both). Hence, you can only 'earn' her for a brief period of time (a few months or years). Most of us on this board are only interested in her tonight (or for a week or two at the resort in Boracay). There is little difference between the fat old fart who earns women with his wallet, and the gwapo / charming younger gent who 'gets chicks' easily with the force of his personality: eventually she's there for one reason (money / things for herself / family). Personally, I prefer not to 'woo' (although it happens a lot), I prefer to pay in some way at the end of the transaction. That might involve an up-front negotiation, or if nothing is discussed in advance, I'm pushing 10 k into her purse at the end of her several days with me.
Some examples later.
Its an old quote but it literally does cost nothing to be nice! Quote of the year. Newbs (and everyone) pay attention.
Mr Enternational
04-17-16, 20:19
There is little difference between the fat old fart who earns women with his wallet, and the gwapo / charming younger gent who 'gets chicks' easily with the force of his personality: eventually she's there for one reason (money / things for herself / family). I disagree with that. To cite 3 instances from last month:
I went to my girl's house in Cebu. Stayed there a couple of days then we went to a resort in Moalboal for a couple of days, then back to her house. Before I left to catch my flight to AC I tried to give her money for the electric bill because she had run the AC a lot while I was there. She about cursed me out and would not accept.
In AC I date a girl who works at a massage parlor. I have known her 4 years and she is just now taking me serious. She gave me a massage at her job and for the next hour when she got off work and we went to dinner she refused to accept the tip I was trying to give her for the massage.
Then when I got to Manila, a chick who works at the Supreme Court came to stay with me for a couple days. When it was time to check out of the hotel she wanted to know how much she had to give me for her part of the bill.
I disagree with that. To cite 3 instances from last month:
I went to my girl's house in Cebu. Stayed there a couple of days then we went to a resort in Moalboal for a couple of days, then back to her house. Before I left to catch my flight to AC I tried to give her money for the electric bill because she had run the AC a lot while I was there. She about cursed me out and would not accept.
In AC I date a girl who works at a massage parlor. I have known her 4 years and she is just now taking me serious. She gave me a massage at her job and for the next hour when she got off work and we went to dinner she refused to accept the tip I was trying to give her for the massage.
Then when I got to Manila, a chick who works at the Supreme Court came to stay with me for a couple days. When it was time to check out of the hotel she wanted to know how much she had to give me for her part of the bill.Reading your posts over the years, all I can say is, you are Gwapo / Chick Magnet, LOL.
I disagree with that. To cite 3 instances from last month:
I went to my girl's house in Cebu. Stayed there a couple of days then we went to a resort in Moalboal for a couple of days, then back to her house. Before I left to catch my flight to AC I tried to give her money for the electric bill because she had run the AC a lot while I was there. She about cursed me out and would not accept.
In AC I date a girl who works at a massage parlor. I have known her 4 years and she is just now taking me serious. She gave me a massage at her job and for the next hour when she got off work and we went to dinner she refused to accept the tip I was trying to give her for the massage.
Then when I got to Manila, a chick who works at the Supreme Court came to stay with me for a couple days. When it was time to check out of the hotel she wanted to know how much she had to give me for her part of the bill.Westy said: EVENTUALLY she's there for one reason (money / things for herself / family).
Sometimes you don't pay right away but in the end you ALWAYS pay for pussy.
Mr Enternational
04-19-16, 14:39
Westy said: EVENTUALLY she's there for one reason (money / things for herself / family).
Sometimes you don't pay right away but in the end you ALWAYS pay for pussy.And eventually in the end I will win the lottery. I have enough experience to realize that you always pay for pussy is bullshit. Even when I was married my wife paid the mortgage (which was the big bill) and I paid the utilities. When I got divorced (simply because I did not want to be married anymore; my wife was a great woman) the judge gave me most of the stuff.
I am on the way to the Dominican Republic now where a Dominican American friend is marrying his Filipina American live in girlfriend of 18 years. This chick makes way more money than him. Is she paying for dick because she makes more or does she still make him pay for pussy on his meager income?
You aren't dead yet, E. Give it time.
And eventually in the end I will win the lottery. I have enough experience to realize that you always pay for pussy is bullshit. Even when I was married my wife paid the mortgage (which was the big bill) and I paid the utilities. When I got divorced (simply because I did not want to be married anymore; my wife was a great woman) the judge gave me most of the stuff.
I am on the way to the Dominican Republic now where a Dominican American friend is marrying his Filipina American live in girlfriend of 18 years. This chick makes way more money than him. Is she paying for dick because she makes more or does she still make him pay for pussy on his meager income?.
WestCoast1
04-20-16, 05:51
Westy said: EVENTUALLY she's there for one reason (money / things for herself / family).
Sometimes you don't pay right away but in the end you ALWAYS pay for pussy.
And eventually in the end I will win the lottery. I have enough experience to realize that you always pay for pussy is bullshit. Even when I was married my wife paid the mortgage (which was the big bill) and I paid the utilities. When I got divorced (simply because I did not want to be married anymore; my wife was a great woman) the judge gave me most of the stuff.
I am on the way to the Dominican Republic now where a Dominican American friend is marrying his Filipina American live in girlfriend of 18 years. This chick makes way more money than him. Is she paying for dick because she makes more or does she still make him pay for pussy on his meager income?You must admit, ME, those situations are the exception, not the rule. Pussy tends to moves first towards love / excitement, then later towards stability.
There was a movie, about a decade ago, that was popular here. "Into the Blue", with actors Paul Walker and Jessica Alba. They are pretty actors. In the flick, they are young, happy, living with (at best) regular jobs in the Caribbean. There is adventure, danger, and a treasure at the bottom of the sea. At the end of the flick, they have found the treasure, and all live happily ever after, blah blah. Now imagine 100 such young couples. Imagine they have the same life and adventure. But none of them find the treasure. They have low-wage jobs, and just like in the flick, they have little else besides love for each other (and a cute dog, like in the movie). If you imagine these 100 attractive young couples, then you will easily be able to see that eventually, most of the pretty girls in these relationships will move on from their boyfriend (love notwithstanding), and gravitate towards greater stability. Only a handful of them would still be with the same boyfriend at age 35.
Not all snatch is paid for. But most is, in some format or other.
MrWoolyBooly
05-01-16, 14:51
27 girls in total. I could never fit that many girls into a few days, but I don't follow your method of only girls from Makati-or-near. I invite from anywhere in Metro Manila, or neighboring provinces if extra hot. I gave up nagging them to be on time. Instead I double-book and take my chances. Reliable girls get promoted to repeat visitor qualification.
Thanks for the statistics on how the ladies respond to sex with no money attached. I also always give "guilt money" or whatever we want to call it. They always have some money problem in their life: college tuition, sick somebody, baby needs a Ferrari, whatever. I'm not as generous as you. I give 500 pesos for showing up. Sometimes I'm double booked and making her leave. Sometimes I decide on the spot I'm not interested. For a lady staying all day with the maximum hotness, enthusiasm, and bedroom talent points I give around 6 k. The amount is the same however I met them: fake FB, dating site, mall or Burgos. Most guys here recommend negotiating specific prices for specific services, but I rarely do. I prefer to reward for performance. To paraphrase somebody's post from many years ago: I don't worry whether I'm affecting the market price, because I can only dream of having that much market share! I give a "reason" for the cash: This is for your upcoming birthday, or your grannie's medicine, or whatever.
For market-watchers: Since 2007 price of pro puki (Pinay baby ejection tunnel) has roughly doubled in my observation. For first world guys, it's still a great deal. I enjoy the game of online dating or fake FB more, though. The expense is roughly the same, but making local friends opens opportunities to unlimited hot new ladies we could never find in a bar.
MrWoolyBooly
05-01-16, 15:41
In case you have forgotten this forum is to educate members about our hobby. I'd add to entertain as well. In his defense (I hesitate to refer to him as "Mr Sucks") he does fill a niche rarely reported on by others and provides a lot more pics than most. I may be unusual in that I pursue Pinays with a budget varying widely from "gotta use game or go without" to willing to splurge (by my standards) if I find Ms Perfect (USD 500+ for a day or two). Burgos, Malate, and AC are well reported, almost enough to have a live fee-for-service menu online at least in narrow price ranges.
For times of low or no budget, I know of only two options. One is scary cheap scary location scary looks offerings throughout Metro Manila. The other is time spent convincing girls with words. Time is indeed money.
When I can plan my uncommon splurge moments, it's pretty easy to find an amazingly hot non-pro in FB or online dating as a "travel companion" saying "our travel budget will be X pesos apiece per day" to make her feel like she's not a pro. Unfortunately, I rarely have much advance planning time. I'd be very interested in advice from experienced members on this real situation: You have 30 k to spend in the next 24 hours on the best Pinay companionship you can find. You're at the airport with your bags with no advance planning for hotel or girl. What to do?
Those are extreme cases. 80% of the time my budget for the ladies is 4 k to 6 k per calendar day. I do enjoy the reports from those working with much higher or much lower budgets.
Member #4387
05-01-16, 17:11
Pinay baby ejection tunnelThis made my day. I actually threw up as my food stucked in somewhere between belly and throat. It arrived safely on a floor somewhere. Pure funny naming of the pukie:-) congrats..
WestCoast1
05-01-16, 23:11
SNIP (Pinay baby ejection tunnel) has roughly doubled in my observation.Haha yes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH2LsFcWOFY
You must admit, ME, those situations are the exception, not the rule. Pussy tends to moves first towards love / excitement, then later towards stability.
There was a movie, about a decade ago, that was popular here. "Into the Blue", with actors Paul Walker and Jessica Alba. They are pretty actors. In the flick, they are young, happy, living with (at best) regular jobs in the Caribbean. There is adventure, danger, and a treasure at the bottom of the sea. At the end of the flick, they have found the treasure, and all live happily ever after, blah blah. Now imagine 100 such young couples. Imagine they have the same life and adventure. But none of them find the treasure. They have low-wage jobs, and just like in the flick, they have little else besides love for each other (and a cute dog, like in the movie). If you imagine these 100 attractive young couples, then you will easily be able to see that eventually, most of the pretty girls in these relationships will move on from their boyfriend (love notwithstanding), and gravitate towards greater stability. Only a handful of them would still be with the same boyfriend at age 35.
Not all snatch is paid for. But most is, in some format or other.I thoroughly agree with your example of 100 such couples. Yes there will be a few who will stay together but 80% will not, though some have girls willing to pay them for their sexual services.
Fastpiston
05-03-16, 02:24
I thoroughly agree with your example of 100 such couples. Yes there will be a few who will stay together but 80% will not, though some have girls willing to pay them for their sexual services. Most of the time the most expensive sex is "free" sex. There are exceptions, but the exceptions are particularly rare with bar girls as they in the bars to get a return on their pussies, one way or another.
Most of the time the most expensive sex is "free" sex. This is true everywhere in the world. Here is a request sent to me by e-mail from a DIA woman I am meeting in Vietnam.
"Darling,
I know that it is silly to ask you for this but I am in difficult situation. I am really broken this month. In fact, since my baby ducks have been hatched, they ate a lot. They are now one month and they eat more than chicken. My twenty chicken now are not big and fat enough to sell. So could you please help me 30 USA $ so that I would buy two packets of bran and rice for baby ducks?
I would be grateful for your help. Please help me for my tight situation. I promise that I will stay with you and be your tourist guide in the future. If you will accept to lend me 30 $, please send me via Western Union. I am looking forwards to hear from you.
Take good care."
At least she was smart enough not to make the request on DIA. She knows the ropes because she sent me a message on DIA to open my e-mail. Lucky she does't have a water buffalo. I'm sure that would be more expensive.
Mr Enternational
05-03-16, 22:15
I would ask what the ducks will eat next month after the $30 runs out. Looks like a true professional seeing that she asked for US$ instead of dong. She made it easy so you would not have to do the conversion.
Most of the time the most expensive sex is "free" sex.But most of the time you get the things what is priceless. If you are into natural activities.
There are exceptions, but the exceptions are particularly rare with bar girls as they in the bars to get a return on their pussies, one way or another.Pros are hit and miss. In few cases you will find the GFE things. Most of the time you will get the bitchy and money making machines.
BrainDrain
05-10-16, 04:28
Over the past few weeks have come into 'virtual' contact with a few girls coming towards the end of their OFW contracts and heading back to Philippines. One just arrived home this week, one is August and another at December.
Seems that these girls have a pretty boring time in the middle east and are happy to share things online, although not immediately.
Anyway, just wish I could work out how to get the timing right without having to talk to lady A until August and lady be until December. Then again, there are lots of other potentials.
Maybe I need to be looking more closely at the pinay pax on my flight to Manila. When I've tried to strike up conversation previously in the Singapore boarding area, didn't get anywhere. The girls seem to lke making 'private' contact before being seen in publc.
Happy days.
BD.
Wicked Roger
05-10-16, 05:12
Over the past few weeks have come into 'virtual' contact with a few girls coming towards the end of their OFW contracts and heading back to Philippines. One just arrived home this week, one is August and another at December.
Maybe I need to be looking more closely at the pinay pax on my flight to Manila. When I've tried to strike up conversation previously in the Singapore boarding area, didn't get anywhere. The girls seem to lke making 'private' contact before being seen in publc.
Happy days.
BD.The Middle East for many is a struggle BD with long ours and poor pay plus the never ending demands from family for more cash (as they are rich in their eyes). Some end up a Ratksys also some on Tinder etc. I know a few.
The OFW is a good source and on the plane to the Philippines have had some success whether on the plane or at the baggage carousel as always a wait there. Just watch carefully and see if she with friends etc as many have colleagues on the same flight and that makes them 'shy' if you wander over and chat.
Some OFWs go to the Middle East slim and sexy but end up chubby. Lack exercise, poor diet, long work hours are all to blame. One I know only leaves her hospital once a month! So they are bored and need some excitement and am sure some contribution helps that also LOL.
Wolvenvacht
05-10-16, 06:50
I would ask what the ducks will eat next month after the $30 runs out. When the money runs out, she will eat the ducks.
Great Muta
05-10-16, 21:01
Over the past few weeks have come into 'virtual' contact with a few girls coming towards the end of their OFW contracts and heading back to Philippines. One just arrived home this week, one is August and another at December.
Seems that these girls have a pretty boring time in the middle east and are happy to share things online, although not immediately.
Anyway, just wish I could work out how to get the timing right without having to talk to lady A until August and lady be until December. Then again, there are lots of other potentials.
Maybe I need to be looking more closely at the pinay pax on my flight to Manila. When I've tried to strike up conversation previously in the Singapore boarding area, didn't get anywhere. The girls seem to lke making 'private' contact before being seen in publc.
Happy days.
BD.Most girls I know in the Middle East maybe get to leave the house once every two weeks. Most just do chores all day and do facebook, with little else. They also almost always come back fatter than they arrived.
And surprise, despite making way more there than they would at home, they still come back broke.
I have met some girls if I am in the economy class traveling from Hkg to mnl. Normally get upgraded. Some are friendly but to get them into bed even before they go to provinces is next to impossible. To start with they have everything packed including the door mat. They are afraid of loosing any articles they packed if they go anywhere else except get to home first. I have gotten some phone numbers of their friends or cousin because they do not have SIM card yet. Once they get home they are busy for couple of weeks bonding with their extended family and friends. Then they start getting horny. So if you are playing the waiting game maybe you can score. As I know most of you guys will have your pen dipped in some wet well.
Blanquiceleste
05-14-16, 04:53
When I wrote my FR a week ago, there was one incident I wanted to share on this thread, but I got busy with other stuff.
A girl I had picked from a Fields bar had this wonderful sense of humor. We were cuddling for a while after a roll in the hay and I was showing her pictures of Singapore. As I scrolled, I came to a set of pics that were taken around Singapore during Christmas time. And I went on to complain to her how it never feels like Christmas in Singapore as the weather is so warm and people aren't dressed in woolens. The next thing, this girl looks at me with a straight face and innocent large eyes and asks "So baby, when is Christmas in Singapore?" I was completely thrown off balance by that question, but I made a smart recovery and said "Baby, its the same time as here in Philippines". The answer came "I see. So cool na. ".
Nuff said.
Blanquiceleste
05-14-16, 04:58
So could you please help me 30 USA $ so that I would buy two packets of bran and rice for baby ducks?
In Vietnam, rice and bran must be awfully expensive, no? For a country who's main produce is rice. Incredible. What will they think of next? Pet hamsters?
In Vietnam, rice and bran must be awfully expensive, no? For a country who's main produce is rice. Incredible. What will they think of next? Pet hamsters?
When I deferred her request to "later" via e-mail explaining my current financial constraints at home, she blocked me on DIA LOL.
Why The Face
05-29-16, 15:38
I moved this topic over to it's appropriate area. Not surprisingly, there is a section dedicated to this topic in The Phils.
A BM criticized me for pushing my "morality" on others. This could not be farther from my position. If anything I would argue morally against the Filipino women as they are "master hiders" of their true feelings. My position was against 60 plus 20 equals love as being not practical in reality.
Don't forget there is a new guy to this hobby or The Phils who is reading this board. I am here to give a warning as I have witnessed so much suffering and heartbreak in the past. I saw a unique distinction in the Phils, Angeles City especially, as being different from the other places I had been in the past. I mentioned this distinction and planted a seed.
Let me sidetrack from 60 plus 20 equals love for a minute. The most important thing in starting a new relationship is how and where you meet a woman. Many of you guys are meeting women through the internet. I know most of you are looking for hookers but some are you are open to or are looking for serious relationships. What is actually happening here? A guy meets a bunch of women online. Some women seem different than others. After narrowing it down, you find some that seem more relationship quality than others. What do you really know about these women? One thing only, she was willing to talk to a foreigner on the internet. After spending time in Medellin recently I knew more regular women than anyone I know there. I didn't have sex with over 90% of them but they let me in enough to know how they are. The women best suited to be in serious relationships would not be talking to foreigners via the internet. I don't think I need to talk about meeting hookers in gogo bars or do I?
Continuing, I met a 26 year old woman from Hong Kong a few days ago in Pattaya, Thailand. She was there with her mother and sister. They had made a poor destination choice for their vacation and told me as much. I clicked with this woman. How I met her was in the back of a pickup truck taxi and we spent 20 minutes talking together. What a great way to meet! Here's the bad news. Look at where I met her. In Pattaya, Thailand. This couldn't be worse and she isn't stupid. Even if it were Paris, how am I going to start this relationship with her? Talking long distance through the internet? In addition she will have some extra "doubt" possibly being more guarded away from me since we met in Thailand. Guys, put yourselves in good positions to meet women if you are looking to be a serious relationship. Be at your best and have good things going on in your life. Leave this hookering where it belongs and don't "drift" into situations. If you have "drifted" into a situation I am not saying it can't work. This is an entirely different subject and I don't want to get into that right now. I am also not pulling against you guys who are in these situations. I hope you find happiness, good companionship, and love with the women in your lives. I am saying that discipline, focus, and distance is needed in this hobby.
Back to 60 plus 20 equals love. I could attack this from so many angles but I will keep this simple with as few words as possible.
First, let's look at this from the 20 year old Filipino's side. Where did her desire to be in a relationship with a 60 year old foreigner come from? Money, of course. Girls in these situations do not have foundations rooted in solid ice but more of a free flowing water. One day the tide went one way and they got comfortable (with the money) and then this convenient idea became habit.
Now let's look at this from the 60 year old foreigners side. Let's imagine a 60 year old man came to you and was looking for advice about starting a new relationship. Let's imagine he was tired of the women from his culture who were his age or near his age. Would you suggest a 20 year old Filipino? Of course you wouldn't! These situations arise out of less than ideal circumstances, many times the worst of circumstances.
I read a quote once that was a tough pill to swallow. A good heart is overrated and a good mind is underrated. Plenty of good hearted people with poor minds leading people toward lots of suffering and hardship. Use your heads fellas (the head up top).
Good luck to all of you guys regarding the situations with the women in your lives, even the 60 plus 20 crowd.
Why The Face.
MrWoolyBooly
05-29-16, 18:00
but some are you are open to or are looking for serious relationships. Who reads pages from an url like www.internationalsexguide.info in search of a "serious" relationship?
I moved this topic over to it's appropriate area. Not surprisingly, there is a section dedicated to this topic in The Phils.
A BM criticized me for pushing my "morality" on others. This could not be farther from my position. If anything I would argue morally against the Filipino women as they are "master hiders" of their true feelings. My position was against 60 plus 20 equals love as being not practical in reality.
Don't forget there is a new guy to this hobby or The Phils who is reading this board. I am here to give a warning as I have witnessed so much suffering and heartbreak in the past. I saw a unique distinction in the Phils, Angeles City especially, as being different from the other places I had been in the past. I mentioned this distinction and planted a seed.
Let me sidetrack from 60 plus 20 equals love for a minute. The most important thing in starting a new relationship is how and where you meet a woman. Many of you guys are meeting women through the internet. I know most of you are looking for hookers but some are you are open to or are looking for serious relationships. What is actually happening here? A guy meets a bunch of women online. Some women seem different than others. After narrowing it down, you find some that seem more relationship quality than others. What do you really know about these women? One thing only, she was willing to talk to a foreigner on the internet. After spending time in Medellin recently I knew more regular women than anyone I know there. I didn't have sex with over 90% of them but they let me in enough to know how they are. The women best suited to be in serious relationships would not be talking to foreigners via the internet. I don't think I need to talk about meeting hookers in gogo bars or do I?
Continuing, I met a 26 year old woman from Hong Kong a few days ago in Pattaya, Thailand. She was there with her mother and sister. They had made a poor destination choice for their vacation and told me as much. I clicked with this woman. How I met her was in the back of a pickup truck taxi and we spent 20 minutes talking together. What a great way to meet! Here's the bad news. Look at where I met her. In Pattaya, Thailand. This couldn't be worse and she isn't stupid. Even if it were Paris, how am I going to start this relationship with her? Talking long distance through the internet? In addition she will have some extra "doubt" possibly being more guarded away from me since we met in Thailand. Guys, put yourselves in good positions to meet women if you are looking to be a serious relationship. Be at your best and have good things going on in your life. Leave this hookering where it belongs and don't "drift" into situations. If you have "drifted" into a situation I am not saying it can't work. This is an entirely different subject and I don't want to get into that right now. I am also not pulling against you guys who are in these situations. I hope you find happiness, good companionship, and love with the women in your lives. I am saying that discipline, focus, and distance is needed in this hobby.
Back to 60 plus 20 equals love. I could attack this from so many angles but I will keep this simple with as few words as possible.
First, let's look at this from the 20 year old Filipino's side. Where did her desire to be in a relationship with a 60 year old foreigner come from? Money, of course. Girls in these situations do not have foundations rooted in solid ice but more of a free flowing water. One day the tide went one way and they got comfortable (with the money) and then this convenient idea became habit.
Now let's look at this from the 60 year old foreigners side. Let's imagine a 60 year old man came to you and was looking for advice about starting a new relationship. Let's imagine he was tired of the women from his culture who were his age or near his age. Would you suggest a 20 year old Filipino? Of course you wouldn't! These situations arise out of less than ideal circumstances, many times the worst of circumstances.
I read a quote once that was a tough pill to swallow. A good heart is overrated and a good mind is underrated. Plenty of good hearted people with poor minds leading people toward lots of suffering and hardship. Use your heads fellas (the head up top).
Good luck to all of you guys regarding the situations with the women in your lives, even the 60 plus 20 crowd.
Why The Face.All you need is a pulpit at the start of Walking Street to spread your word.
How do you REALLY know the hearts and minds of the lovers in question? Let alone their life histories? Nor do you know the "value " of love to each person.
Your opinions are of no value to me. Of course I can only speak for myself.
Who reads pages from an url like www.internationalsexguide.info in search of a "serious" relationship?Absolutely correct. He is the one with problems, not us, LOL.
GoodEnough
05-29-16, 23:55
Why the Face, you're creating fuzzy generalizations that may or may not be appropriate or should I say accurate, in individual cases. I've been in this country for more than a decade now, and in this region for more than two, and I've witnessed a huge range of individual relationships. Surely some of the "20+60" relationships would fall neatly within your framework; others however, would fall well outside of it. In the end, relationships exist between two individuals, each with his or her own expectations, motivations and desires. The bottom line is that some work and endure and others do not. Further, I think you grossly underestimate the basic intelligence of those looking for relationships by assuming that most are incapable or unwilling to think through possible longer term consequences. This is inconsistent with my observations. The fact is that there's no universal set of standards that apply to relationships of any sort, and your attempts to force fit human behavior into your predetermined categories are thus futile.
GE.
Why The Face
05-30-16, 01:26
I think you grossly underestimate the basic intelligence of those looking for relationships by assuming that most are incapable or unwilling to think through possible longer term consequences. This is inconsistent with my observations.
GE.IMO I think you are overestimating those who travel to the Third World in search of sex, especially The Phils, but we can agree to disagree. What people appear to be thinking versus what they are really thinking are two very different things indeed. Then you factor in the lack of discipline, need for companionship, and having someone to talk with. Plenty of relationships are formed out of gogo bars with these men you say I am overestimating. I saw a lot of men "bought in" in different way in Angeles and thought I would give an opinion. I was told when I arrived in Medellin there were men taking advantage of the "innocent" local women. What I observed there was exactly the opposite. I saw men looking for relationships in disorganized ways.
Don't forget that only a small percentage of the men who travel post on these forums. Many of you are gifted writers who practice this discipline and are thinking clearly. After reading these boards for many years you have a good idea what is right and wrong for you. Many are not and are making terrible mistakes. Hopefully they take a good, hard look at what went wrong so they can make better decisions next time. Hopefully my "opinions" give them some strength and focus going forward.
I have written this stuff on other boards in other locales and received very different responses. Why is there a section specifically dedicated to "opinions and advice" in The Phils versus the other major locales? I just checked the forums in Thailand, Brazil, and Colombia. No opinions and advice sections there. Just saying.
I have said my piece. I will let all of your comments be last ones if any of you wants them. I won't comment again on this topic in The Phils.
Wicked Roger
05-30-16, 11:24
Absolutely correct. He is the one with problems, not us, LOL.Could this be M Cobb with another handle and different IP address as WTF interesting abbreviation) is just spouting his moral view so why should he read or participate o a monger board where most of us have a different of values I some areas.
[QUOTE=Why The Face; I read a quote once that was a tough pill to swallow. A good heart is overrated and a good mind is underrated. Plenty of good hearted people with poor minds leading people toward lots of suffering and hardship. Use your heads fellas (the head up top). Good luck to all of you guys regarding the situations with the women in your lives, even the 60 plus 20 crowd.
Hey Face, it appears you're lacking in heart and mind. My #1 GF in the PI is 21 and gorgeous whereas I am 60 and we are quite happy together. It's common there and accepted. In the Old Testament it was also common for wealthy men to have several (young) wives and concubines. Take your self-righteous opinion and shove it up your ass. Good luck with your old menopausal psychotic hag nags.
BrainDrain
06-06-16, 05:16
HI,
I'll put this story here. It did happen in HK but she was Filipina so I think it is more relevant here.
Lined up a date with a Filipina maid to meet her at Central on Sunday. We meandered around a little, walking, talking and holding hands. Miraculously using the power of my non-GPS memory we were meandering our way closer to my hotel. We stopped for some food and then I suggested a visit to my room to recharge my phone battery.
In the room onto the bed she was rather shy. I did have to go out to a business meeting later so she knew time was limited. On the bed, just not making progress. No kissing, all fully clothed. She kept reminding me of the time and I should 'take a shower'. OMG, why take a shower, that will mean it's over. Eventually I realised I wasn't getting anywhere so went to have a shower. As I was towelling down I said "You can come in now". To my surprise the shy girl was happy to come into the bathroom and join the naked me. She went straight to work on me. All she wanted was a nice clean cock.
As it turned out she was on the reds, so that complicated things a little, but she was certainly a trooper and penetration was achieved.
So after many years of listening to the Pinay I misread this one.
Enjoy.
BD.
Monger in ATL
06-06-16, 11:50
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to send a quick note to say thank you to everyone who contributes to this board. Although I have never been to the Philippines myself and am not planning a trip any time in the foreseeable future, this board has been invaluable in helping me get my head around some drama I had with a couple of months ago with an OFW part-timer regular I was seeing for a while in Dubai. (Abbreviated version. I use condoms for FS every time, and she got her feelings hurt when I repeatedly declined BBFS from her.) After spending the better part of a weekend reading the archives of this board, now I understand a lot better WHY that was the case.
So thanks for the insight, fellow mongers, it is appreciated.
Pinaypounder
06-06-16, 15:42
I could never fit that many girls into a few days, but I don't follow your method of only girls from Makati-or-near. I invite from anywhere in Metro Manila, or neighboring provinces if extra hot. I gave up nagging them to be on time. Instead I double-book and take my chances. Reliable girls get promoted to repeat visitor qualification.
Thanks for the statistics on how the ladies respond to sex with no money attached. I also always give "guilt money" or whatever we want to call it. They always have some money problem in their life: college tuition, sick somebody, baby needs a Ferrari, whatever. I'm not as generous as you. I give 500 pesos for showing up. Sometimes I'm double booked and making her leave. Sometimes I decide on the spot I'm not interested. For a lady staying all day with the maximum hotness, enthusiasm, and bedroom talent points I give around 6 k. The amount is the same however I met them: fake FB, dating site, mall or Burgos. Most guys here recommend negotiating specific prices for specific services, but I rarely do. I prefer to reward for performance. To paraphrase somebody's post from many years ago: I don't worry whether I'm affecting the market price, because I can only dream of having that much market share! I give a "reason" for the cash: This is for your upcoming birthday, or your grannie's medicine, or whatever.
For market-watchers: Since 2007 price of pro puki (Pinay baby ejection tunnel) has roughly doubled in my observation. For first world guys, it's still a great deal. I enjoy the game of online dating or fake FB more, though. The expense is roughly the same, but making local friends opens opportunities to unlimited hot new ladies we could never find in a bar.ARe you fucking kidding me?
6 k for 1 days work is double the monthly salary of a highly skilled and actually capable Manila professional. And 3 times that of someone outside of Manila, holy fuck are you over paying and fucking everything up.
If she works 24 days in a month she is making 144 k, which is HUGE money!
Dial it back! You are truly upsetting the Applecart! 3 k TOPS!
Mr Enternational
06-06-16, 17:02
ARe you fucking kidding me?
6 k for 1 days work is double the monthly salary of a highly skilled and actually capable Manila professional. And 3 times that of someone outside of Manila, holy fuck are you over paying and fucking everything up.
If she works 24 days in a month she is making 144 k, which is HUGE money!
Dial it back! You are truly upsetting the Applecart! 3 k TOPS!I am by no means an expert on the Manila market. If I am not with a nonpro then the extent of my mongering is LA Cafe. But I do know local guys who get chicks for 5 K. You would think that being from there...
WestCoast1
06-06-16, 17:10
For market-watchers: Since 2007 price of pro puki (Pinay baby ejection tunnel) has roughly doubled in my observation. For first world guys, it's still a great deal. I enjoy the game of online dating or fake FB more, though. The expense is roughly the same, but making local friends opens opportunities to unlimited hot new ladies we could never find in a bar.The 6 K thing is not necessarily that much, given that some men quickly spend 10 k on escorts without batting an eye, especially if Booly's girl is hot.
However, the market-watch thing. I think that's about correct; the price of girls has doubled in a decade. That's not good news, and its not necessarily a good deal for me because I'm a first-world guy. A 'good deal' is getting something for what the locals pay. Its not necessarily a 'good deal' because I pay less than in my country (heavens, think about it, I already spent large in transport / hotels just coming to phils). As a different example, I got some fruit in Cebu at an open market (Colon). I asked for a bunch of hanging bananas (no prices were marked). The girl handed them to me and said "40". I handed her p40, knowing the same weight of bananas at my home grocery store (or the local Cebu grocery store) would be 2-3 times as much. Good deal for me, right? Wrong. I stepped aside with my bananas and continued to shop at the same stall, realizing that I should have gotten some apples also. A pinoy walked up and bought some bananas. His bunch was the same size as mine. The girl said to him "20". He passed her a 20-note and departed. The two-tiered gringo / pinoy system has been documented here before. I got a crappy deal. Looking at the situation (pukie or bananas) as a good deal compared to my home country is faulty thinking.
It would be hard to think the bananas would cost p40 for locals a decade from now, a doubling of price. If pukie has doubled in price in ten years (that's 8% compounded annually), that's because weekend (or 2-week) warriors simply don't care about what they are giving. I, too sometimes fall into this category (and at other times don't). Its odd. While I often times get pukie for less (much less) than what many gents here say they paid, I also sometimes give much larger amounts without batting an eye. I don't give the small amounts because I'm watching my budget, I give it to keep the apple cart the same 10 years from now. OTOH when I overpay, I just do it out of goodness for a unique / good experience (she was exceptionally hot, or more likely she was very girl-friendly, or she was somehow exceptional).
ARe you fucking kidding me?
6 k for 1 days work is double the monthly salary of a highly skilled and actually capable Manila professional. And 3 times that of someone outside of Manila, holy fuck are you over paying and fucking everything up.
If she works 24 days in a month she is making 144 k, which is HUGE money!
Dial it back! You are truly upsetting the Applecart! 3 k TOPS!6 k for long time is pretty reasonable for Manila. Unless his deal was posted on the Stock Exchange board, I don't see how it affects the market. Yes, yes I know the story that the girls talk. The only thing to worry about is if the highly skilled and capable professionals find out that they can get double their salaries here, then they would be out here in force making hotel calls. Competion would be great!
Pro-forma income on paper never works out into actual reality.
Mr. WoolyBooly,
Congrats to you.
Ps. Could never understand the cost of poon compared to the wages of anybody. Does anybody ever say I pay according to the daily wage schedule of a highly trained professional? NO! People only pay what is comparable to the money they make or have and the value it is to them (at that time).
Pinaypounder
06-06-16, 17:35
It is way to high.
I have never EVER even paid 3 k.
While all pussy is not equal, the correlation between hot looking and high performance does not exist.
The only escort in the phils I ever wasted my money on was 4. 5 k, was supposed to role play in a 3 some, saw my cock cried and left LITERALLY.
That price is way way way to high, no one on the phils is worth that.
Senior punters in the phils rarely pay 2!
Use your brain!
PP.
Pinaypounder
06-06-16, 17:36
The 6 K thing is not necessarily that much, given that some men quickly spend 10 k on escorts without batting an eye, especially if Booly's girl is hot.
However, the market-watch thing. I think that's about correct; the price of girls has doubled in a decade. That's not good news, and its not necessarily a good deal for me because I'm a first-world guy. A 'good deal' is getting something for what the locals pay. Its not necessarily a 'good deal' because I pay less than in my country (heavens, think about it, I already spent large in transport / hotels just coming to phils). As a different example, I got some fruit in Cebu at an open market (Colon). I asked for a bunch of hanging bananas (no prices were marked). The girl handed them to me and said "40". I handed her p40, knowing the same weight of bananas at my home grocery store (or the local Cebu grocery store) would be 2-3 times as much. Good deal for me, right? Wrong. I stepped aside with my bananas and continued to shop at the same stall, realizing that I should have gotten some apples also. A pinoy walked up and bought some bananas. His bunch was the same size as mine. The girl said to him "20". He passed her a 20-note and departed. The two-tiered gringo / pinoy system has been documented here before. I got a crappy deal. Looking at the situation (pukie or bananas) as a good deal compared to my home country is faulty thinking.
It would be hard to think the bananas would cost p40 for locals a decade from now, a doubling of price. If pukie has doubled in price in ten years (that's 8% compounded annually), that's because weekend (or 2-week) warriors simply don't care about what they are giving. I, too sometimes fall into this category (and at other times don't). Its odd. While I often times get pukie for less (much less) than what many gents here say they paid, I also sometimes give much larger amounts without batting an eye. I don't give the small amounts because I'm watching my budget, I give it to keep the apple cart the same 10 years from now. OTOH when I overpay, I just do it out of goodness for a unique / good experience (she was exceptionally hot, or more likely she was very girl-friendly, or she was somehow exceptional).Again BULLSHIT you are the one who PMd me a few months back saying you pay 1 K now you say 6 is ok?
I give my approval to anyone who wants to pay 6 k.
Then again who am I to give approval? Then again who is anyone to give disapproval?
Again BULLSHIT you are the one who PMd me a few months back saying you pay 1 K now you say 6 is ok?Excuse me, don't mean to interrupt. But seen this a couple times lately. Seems to me like PM's should stay between the individuals PM'ing each other and the NSA, shouldn't it?
Member #4387
06-06-16, 20:00
Maybe "my" girls in general will not destroy the marketeconomics, hopefully not. I just want everyone to stay happy. If I, through "my" girls, still do I am in advanced sorry. If we stick to the number 3 K LT / ST (I donate the same) I relatively speaking get a better deal these days than 10 years ago as I have donated the same throughout the years (example Thai 3 K and Phils 3 K, I've tried 3 K in Indo also hehe, China 1 K, US200 and so on). I admit, since the economy have strengthned itself over the last few years (my own economy and probably phils economy as well, at least the elite getting richer) I am about to push the ammount a notch up. 4 or 5 K becomes more and more normal for me to donate, 3 K still beeing the norm though. Also remember that "my" girls don't know (the few repeat ones ofcourse know what they will get) what they will get as no money ever mentioned pro meeting. I want to treat them nice though and by paying my portion of guilt money I don't feel so bad about my wrongdoings. Never take mongering so seriously. Its only pure fun. Note; I hear of teethless skanks in AC can be had for 50 p.
Maybe "my" girls in general will not destroy the marketeconomics, hopefully not. I just want everyone to stay happy. If I, through "my" girls, still do I am in advanced sorry. If we stick to the number 3 K LT / ST (I donate the same) I relatively speaking get a better deal these days than 10 years ago as I have donated the same throughout the years (example Thai 3 K and Phils 3 K, I've tried 3 K in Indo also hehe, China 1 K, US200 and so on). I admit, since the economy have strengthned itself over the last few years (my own economy and probably phils economy as well, at least the elite getting richer) I am about to push the ammount a notch up. 4 or 5 K becomes more and more normal for me to donate, 3 K still beeing the norm though. Also remember that "my" girls don't know (the few repeat ones ofcourse know what they will get) what they will get as no money ever mentioned pro meeting. I want to treat them nice though and by paying my portion of guilt money I don't feel so bad about my wrongdoings. Never take mongering so seriously. Its only pure fun. Note; I hear of teethless skanks in AC can be had for 50 p.Reality is that no one penis can change the market place no matter what he paid. Unless there is a ticker board on FB regarding what you paid to the last girl, then no one knows unless you or her tells someone.
No one has confirmed toothless girls in AC for 50 pesos. Let's not add to useless rumors unless you can confirm it. Did you get one for 50?
Please don't get all hurt with this. Some joking here but it is insane to think a few mongers can change the market place one way or another.
MrWoolyBooly
06-07-16, 05:00
ARe you fucking kidding me?
6 k for 1 days work is double the monthly salary of a highly skilled and actually capable Manila professional. And 3 times that of someone outside of Manila, holy fuck are you over paying and fucking everything up.
If she works 24 days in a month she is making 144 k, which is HUGE money!
Dial it back! You are truly upsetting the Applecart! 3 k TOPS!Greetings, Mr Pounder.
According to the Emolument web site (http://www.emolument.com) which roughly corresponds to my experience with BPO operations in the Philippines over the last nine years, any educated, skilled employee makes much more than 6 k pesos (around USD 130) per month. 6 k is the absolute most I've ever paid (although on multiple occasions) a Miss Silka runner-up (won't say which year!) (province in Region III) representative to Miss World Philippines (ditto), member of an NCAA NCR champion cheerleading team, and member of an NCAA Region IVA 3rd place cheerleading team. Those lovelies were each in their own way indescribably amazing. Memories of my times with the beauty queen (who now hates me) will keep me happy till the end of my days, even if I'm stranded on a deserted island with only left-hand and right-hand for company. My heartrate is actually increasing as I reminisce! The NCR cheerleader (originally from Pangasinan) rode me virtually non-stop until I (not she) nearly collapsed from exhaustion, even though she was doing all the work! The Region IVA girl OMG was and remains always cheerily enthusiastic any way I wanted (time of day, position, location, activity, whatever), never asked for anything at all (picked Mang Inasal when I offered to treat her to meals), and even though knew the whole time I was otherwise taken is still there for me if ever over several years. I'm getting misty thinking of these ladies, gotta take a breath haha. I don't regret a centavo given to any of them, and would gladly help them out any time they needed it and I'm able. In the vast majority of my experiences with Filipinas, I neither enjoyed nor paid anything close to as much as with those above. None of the above were explicitly pay-for-play, but call it what we will.
Side note. For guys who want the ultimate cowgirl experience, I recommend Pinay college cheerleaders heartily and without reservation!
That said, I'll repeat my opinion about affecting market prices for puki (Filipina portable sausage sheath): I don't worry whether I'm affecting the market price, because I can only dream of having that much market share!
Thank you, Mr Pounder, for triggering such happy memories.
I am about to push the ammount a notch up. 4 or 5 K becomes more and more normal for me to donate... Are you feeling more guilty nowadays? ;)
Note; I hear of teethless skanks in AC can be had for 50 p.Yes, but be careful. Some of them still have a molar or two hidden in the back of their mouths. What a disappointment! Nothing worse than paying top peso for a great granny gumming only to find you've been misled. Some of the old gals will try to distract you with their droopy baloney boobs. Bait and switch is what it is.
WestCoast1
06-07-16, 06:12
It is way to high.Is another man's ceiling.
While all pussy is not equal, the correlation between hot looking and high performance does not exist.A hotter girl will command more money for her looks, regardless her performance level. A high-performer will command more money from her repeat customers (and referrals), regardless her looks.
That price is way way way to high, no one on the phils is worth that.Respectfully disagree. What a girl is worth to each gent is different.
Senior punters in the phils rarely pay 2! They are all over the map.
WestCoast1
06-07-16, 06:47
Again BULLSHIT you are the one who PMd me a few months back saying you pay 1 K now you say 6 is ok?Yes, cussing at me will make you feel better. I'll repeat myself. I tend to pay less than most gents. There might be a myriad of reasons as to why. Certainly its not my charm, and certainly its not my Johnson (his highness' averageness keenly on display in the PG). I would claim that the girls are willing to go for much less than we think. Say what you will about this approach, it is my own only.
I never said paying 6 K is ok with me. I *did* say that is less than what some gents pay, and its in the range that many gents spend regularly. I, too, have overpaid on occasion. Usually when alcohol was involved (booze, fiduciary, and my dick don't mix well together). On those occasions my logic goes out the window (with my wallet). There have been occasions where I paid a lot; not because of booze, but because it was calculated. Young hot twin sisters in a provincial town were brought to my attention a few years back by one of my regulars. Originally they wanted over 20 K (absolutely nuts in a city where girls could be found for p500 at the time). Later negotiations lowered the price to about half that, and the locale was changed to another town for the session. This was one of the smartest things I've ever done, and I would have been fine paying their original asking price.
Being a regular visitor and future resident, I prefer, usually, to keep the prices down. The price of pukie doubles in a decade (I stand by my math, that's an 8% increase year over year). The price of bread does no such thing. There is something wrong with that (look what's happened in Jakarta, the doubling has happened since 2010). There can be but one explanation for such: There are lots of gents who come into phils on a regular basis and never consider the market when purchasing the product (not the bread), then they waltz home. If anyone has a better explanation, I'm all ears.
PP, I'll try not to upset you with any more PM's.
Seems to me like PM's should stay between the individuals PM'ing each other and the NSA, shouldn't it?Ha! Say Hi to Michael Hayden for me, right? Mike? Mike?
The price of pukie doubles in a decade (I stand by my math, that's an 8% increase year over year).Keep standing by that math but it is incorrect. Take the tenth root of 2 and subtract 1 = 7. 18% rounded to two decimal places.
WestCoast1
06-07-16, 16:14
DH, I will PM you.
BrainDrain
06-07-16, 20:40
. If anyone has a better explanation, I'm all ears.
When I did some market analysis for my business planning, we identified that real wages growth in Philippines was running at 12% in our industry. There is a massive economic dynamic dragging Philippines into the real world. As the knowledge workers are earning more and more each year (thanks big fat internet connections) those expectations flow through to the other parts of the economy.
I have planned for salary increases for my Ph staff of 10% in the future and expect to need to do that to compete.
There continues to be a huge oversupply of mediocre graduates whom will still be willing to meet mongers for years to come. In my opinion, mongers will need to continue to pay more in the next year and the next, should plan accordingly.
BD.
WestCoast1
06-07-16, 23:05
I have planned for salary increases for my Ph staff of 10% in the future and expect to need to do that to compete.
There continues to be a huge oversupply of mediocre graduates whom will still be willing to meet mongers for years to come. In my opinion, mongers will need to continue to pay more in the next year and the next, should plan accordingly.
BD.Thanks BD. Real-world data helps.
The price of poon is not tied to the inflation rate nor to any cost of living index. Nor is it tied to the minimum wage that some people use as a comparison. Sorry to tell you that the price of poon in not in the cost of living basket like milk and bread.
Many factors combine in the price of poon on any given day and given hour and location. More of market forces of supply and demand than anything else along with risk factors.
Wicked Roger
06-08-16, 04:07
The price of poon is not tied to the inflation rate nor to any cost of living index. Nor is it tied to the minimum wage that some people use as a comparison. Sorry to tell you that the price of poon in not in the cost of living basket like milk and bread.
Many factors combine in the price of poon on any given day and given hour and location. More of market forces of supply and demand than anything else along with risk factors.Included in the 'basket" DG is how drunk the outer is, how much "love" he is at the time of meeting the girl (when drunk a double whammy for the poon inflation index), ho much he believes the story about dying sister / Lola / olo etc.
So many other variables that the economists never understand when discussing poon.
To clarify, I am not saying that West Coast is incorrect in saying that the price of pussy has doubled in ten years. I am just saying that if it has, it's not an 8% annualized increase but much closer to 7%. To get a constant rate of increase, you divide the ending value by the beginning value, take the root that corresponds to the number of periods, and subtract one. I don't know how he got 8%.
WestCoast1
06-08-16, 04:43
To clarify, I am not saying that West Coast is incorrect in saying that the price of pussy has doubled in ten years. I am just saying that if it has, it's not an 8% annualized increase but much closer to 7%. To get a constant rate of increase, you divide the ending value by the beginning value, take the root that corresponds to the number of periods, and subtract one. I don't know how he got 8%.Here is my simple spreadsheet math (compounded annually), starting at p1000, ending close to 2000 a decade later. Its possible I am off by one year.
Principal / interest.
1000.00 / 80.00 / 8%.
1080.00 / 86.40.
1166.40 / 93.31.
1259.71 / 100.78.
1360.49 / 108.84.
1469.33 / 117.55.
1586.87 / 126.95.
1713.82 / 137.11.
1850.93 / 148.07.
1999.00 / 159.92.
Yes, you are off by a year. If you have ten total observations, you have only nine periods of change. So if you take the ninth root of 2 and subtract one, you get 8.00059739%. So if the price of pussy doubled in NINE years, that would be almost exactly an 8% constant annual rate of increase. Occasionally there will be government programs to combat illiteracy, but innumeracy is seldom mentioned. So, boys and girls, pay attention in math class!
WestCoast1
06-08-16, 05:27
Yes, you are off by a year. If you have ten total observations, you have only nine periods of change. So if you take the ninth root of 2 and subtract one, you get 8.00059739%. So if the price of pussy doubled in NINE years, that would be almost exactly an 8% constant annual rate of increase. Occasionally there will be government programs to combat illiteracy, but innumeracy is seldom mentioned. So, boys and girls, pay attention in math class!Lesson learned! Lets call it 7%.
Just for fun, I went back 10 years in the Manila thread, to see what the gents were paying:
She was a great BBBJ girl, 22, cute, petite and was a great cowgirl too.
Was it 3 or 4 rounds of "waking up sex"? Left Victoria 9:30 am very awake and refreshed, gave my friend 1,500 PHP, and off i went to catch my transit flight. I love Manila.March-3-2006 #1502.
I've increasingly noticed that ever since the Mayor started the "Baywalk" project with all the nice street lights, the fountain at Remedios that replaced the Chingy-chingy and mal-life that used to hang out there, etc etc, the cost of just about everything in Malate has doubled. No more 30 peso 1-litre beer, and part-time pickup girls now ask P1000 or even P1000, wheras not too long ago they would have been happy with P500 and ecstatic with any tip over that. Too many rich tourists and all the eVat and rVAT stuff has made some adventures way expensive now. Even out in Cavite some bar girls are asking 1500! It's getting way out of hand; time to just give up on pay-for-play and stick to non-pickup girls, which I notice seem to be more and more interested in making the first move these days. Nice!March-26-2006 #1532.
Finally, I made my choice and off we went. In contrast with the previous night, this was total GFE. I won't bore you with all the details but after 4 pops in 8 hours I sent her off and could not move until 1:00PM the next afternoon. Worth every penny of the 2k + 100 taxi fare.OAHApril-21-2006 #1556.
DG you are right, the price can fluctuate wildly in Manila on a daily basis. A girl who is used to getting 4 K might be glad to get 2 K today if she has to pay rent today.
WC1,
Doesn't look like price of poon has gone up that much over 10 years. 10 years ago the exchange rate was $1. 00 to 52.91 pesos. Of course the price of poon is paid in pesos so it does not affect the price in pesos to the girls but a 15% bonus in purchasing power to foreigners compared to today's rate.
Either way it is good value to me and that is all that matters.
Dg8787.
Doesn't look like price of poon has gone up that much over 10 years. In 1992, when the FX rate was fixed at 25:1, I paid p500 for an AC barfine, so that's $20, and Manila girls were more. Santos Street's Blow Row was p250, IIRC. The inflation calculator for the US says that $20 in 1992 requires $34.11 today, which is p1570. Keep in mind the peso's value collapsed in 1997/98 during the Asian economic crisis.
Using CPI for Philippines the inflation rate between 1992 and 2014 is 212.62%, and the same period for the US is 68.7%.
Member #4387
06-08-16, 14:01
The price of poon is not tied to the inflation rate nor to any cost of living index. Nor is it tied to the minimum wage that some people use as a comparison. Sorry to tell you that the price of poon in not in the cost of living basket like milk and bread.
Many factors combine in the price of poon on any given day and given hour and location. More of market forces of supply and demand than anything else along with risk factors.Without me beeing any expert in anyway (maybe ex getting girls to hook with me without any moneyrequirments whatsoever (ego boost I know)) I find DG's writings to sound about right. But maybe there will be difference in prices quoted upfront vs donation given after. My survey, a couple of trips ago, where I didn't pay the girls a single dime, told me that 0 p is possible in most cases dealing with normal girls. 0 to start with multiple with small rice in prices will still be 0. That is cruel in my opionion (if I looked for GF it wouldve been different though but I'm not). I guess the horrible rice in prices the latter years will affect only the working girl segment. And in my mind there is nothing differencing a prostitute with a girl quoting price upfront. Same same but maybe in different wrappings.
WestCoast1
06-08-16, 16:49
WC1, Doesn't look like price of poon has gone up that much over 10 years. To make PP's argument, it appears that the price really has gone up. If you read thru the Manila thread about a decade ago (when the peso was 52-$1), the gents were giving 1500-2 K overnight, and some were complaining that the price had doubled (guess the argument never goes away). Gents here today are reporting giving amounts several times the previous amounts (even for ST), at a time when the exchange rate is about 45-$1.
Either way it is good value to me and that is all that matters. 1) I think that's what we want for everyone? And 2) the opposite point: that's what drives up prices in the long run.
Huts, thanks for the inflationary insight.
Caveat: I'm not suggesting to anyone, on the open board, what they should pay. Ask me in PM about my pricing structure and I'm glad to explain it (except for you, PP, as you are on my Ignore list, and I'm not sure you can be trusted with the PM function).
MrWoolyBooly
06-08-16, 22:43
Greetings all,
This really is a relevant topic to us all, so I'll contribute my blather.
Pricing for puki (Pinay DNA intake valve) really needs to be segmented by circumstance, just like it does back home wherever that may be.
- Straight up nudie bar girls: This pricing should be easily trackable by the field reports or any regular visitor. I'm most familiar with Burgos, but even there I prefer to just make lots of contacts for hookups outside of working hours. When I'm just hanging around not horny I've even treated ladies to eat at Filling Station a couple times just for the company without introducing them to Wooly Jr.
- Other clear P4 P situations, such as Burgos St "massage", Robinsons Ermita hangers around, Havana Cafe, etc. These have pricing similarities to bar girls, but there is always a variation in the number and desperation level of the part-time or first time lady. This depends on when rent is due, how hungry the kids are, whether they have a place to sleep tonight, and countless other factors. If part-timers are excluded, pricing is pretty consistent. Part-timers range from desperately just need a place to sleep while hoping for more on one extreme to "I'll just 'magtambay' (hang around idly), but if an acceptable guy offers me $5 K for an hour or two I'd go for it," on the other.
- Online dating sites: There really is no rhyme or reason for their pricing that is visible to us without getting to know the ladies first. I've have had girls from ice cold to eager beavers and the other way around in just a few days. I didn't change. Something in their private circumstances must have. Of course the girls who ask for money up front are pros and will display much more coherent market pricing behavior, but still subject to their personal needs. Even the ones that provide friendship with benefits will hope and expect you to help them if you can when they have real financial troubles, no different than "back home".
For the visitor looking for straight P4 P, go, go, go. She'll negotiate as well as she can, we do the same, each influenced by whatever levels of need, horniness, charm, inebriation, and attractiveness are present at the moment.
For the guy who wants a bit of companionship between booms, it's a lot less predictable from true freebie to hooked a husband or supportive baby-daddy and everything in between.
Pinaypounder
06-09-16, 15:41
A brief economics lesson.
My best friend there a lady with a PHD and published author (2 books) and who lead a University department, makes 65 k per month BEFORE TAXES.
A SKILLED Programmer / Software Developer in Manila makes 60 K BEFORE taxes.
A university educated CAll Center Girl in Manila or Cebu make 20 - 24 k per month BEFORE TAXES.
Taxes there are a whopping 32%, some of you can do the math!
Some of the guilt ridden white boys are now apparently paying 6 - 10 k a session or day lets assume its 6 k per day.
The pussy is availble 25 days a month so she is earning 150 K BEFORE TAXES plus meals and likely gifts.
In addition if the pussy is smart enough to extract that from you then she also likely has 1 - 4 men sending her money to be their GF. So tack on another 25 - 100 K per month plus gifts and water buffalo tragedies (unexpected of course). As a note I LOVE fucking your GFs and thank you for paying them not to work and making them SO available to me. The level of ignorance of men who send money to the phils is astounding.
I know of 1 English Clown who is paying an average looking and the woman is a horrible fuck lesbian 30 k a month so he can watch her 2 - 3 times a month fuk his mistress (lets see what does that work out to be on an hourly basis 30 k for 6 hours of sex a month = 5 k per HOUR) and she now does not work at a real job. This is in addition to the monies he pay his mistress and extremely avergae looking fat women who is married (yes that is indeed a tangled web).
So now the pussy is making 175 k to 250 K per month BEFORE Tax which puts the pussy in the highest 1 - 2% of earners in the phils. Hell that is 25% MORE than what an average FAMILY here in Canada makes a month.
But according to some of you here that is ok.
REALLY?
I go there allot and in March in MBC or LA cafe, AVERAGE and below average women wanted 3 k short time and they seemed content to go home alone. This REEKS of ineffective pricing.
Amateurs who I used to donate 1 - 2 k to for long time are now asking 4 k and they can not even get a job in Manila for 14 k a month working in a mall. And we all know this famous logical Filipina Pride. Most of the women I fuck now ACTUALLY love the fucking part (thats why I focus on the 30 to 40 years old, women who know why god gave them a pussy) because their typical filipino lover has a 4 inch, thin cock and cums in 2 - 4 minutes then leaves to go fuck his gf for anther 4 minutes.
Filipinas actually LOVE to FUCK and LOVE big WHITE COCK most of them I fuck to make them cum and give them 1 k for taxi.
Boys you should not overpay the dumbest horniest women on the planet it makes it hard for those of us who are not rich!
BRING BACK PERSPECTIVE and MAKE THEM EARN IT!
Member #4387
06-09-16, 16:06
PP; for us not having to watch the bank 24/7, who cares. You seem like a friendly bloke.
Pinaypounder
06-09-16, 16:19
How shall I ever survive the day being on your ignore list. I share relevant information and call out your bullshit and I am on your ignore list. Oh well the only pms we ever exchanged we when you asked me for a womans number!
Wow how Keyboard warrior of you! I hope the ISG bullies won't gang up on my and make me feel bad!
The simple facts are some members here are overpaying and fucking it up for everyone else and it is exactly this kind of topic this entity was created for!
Your excuses for overpaying are irrelevant grow a set and be fair the women might actually respect you for it instead of seeing who you are a walking wallet.
Sad in Canada because I am being ignored.
PP.
Pinaypounder
06-09-16, 16:24
PP; for us not having to watch the bank 24/7, who cares. You seem like a friendly bloke.Lucky you Donald and unlucky me this recession sucks I am in the Oil Patch and things are frankly terrible here.
HOWEVER why ever over pay for anything? It never leads to good. EVER!
I challenge you to tell me how overpaying is positive other than for the recipient which I could and would argue does not benefit in the long run when they have been over paid.
A perfect example is our Oil Patch here, many good people are suffering bankruptcies and suicides are through the roof now because in the past they were overpaid!
Sorry to say this but it is true!
Being overpaid is not a good thing!
Providing good value for proper compensation is good!
PP.
Pinaypounder
06-09-16, 17:07
Sex is truly wonderful and spirtual and I am an an addict which has its downside.
For me I LOVE fucking LOVE it and at my age and being 30 lbs overweight every woman I fuck is frankly shocked at my sheer love of all thing sexual and my skills to be frank.
Filipinas are sexual women once you get past the roadblocks of the catholic church has defined.
AND more importantly the VAST majority of filipinas have not been well fucked by locales. THEIR men treat them like shit and nothing makes me happier!
Having fucked several latins Thais and Filipinas I know that the men in these countries are to busy fucking them all to be bothered to fuck one well and if you have talked to the women you will know this to be true.
I have had dramatically good sex with dozens and dozens of normal women there. I tend to avoid the prostitutes but even then on those occasions have have AMAZING sex and most of us have had bad sex so we all know the difference.
When you fuck a filipina well they are grateful, shocked, surprised, sore and ready for more. They become white cock addicts. I can not count the number of filipina that think the white guy is a better lover because in some perhaps most cases we are.
So use your sexual abilities, toys and skilll sets to help keep pinay pussy wet instead of your wallet. I have fucked significant numbers (hundreds) there simply because I am a skilled capable lover and having a big cock is frankly a huge bonus, sad to say but it it true bigger is better I laugh every time I hear a 90 lb asian say this but this is unprompted from the mouth of babes. On 3 occasions it has been to big and every time they are fucked so that they need days off, which allows for new meat!
The number of normal women there with less than 5 lovers that I have fucked on a first meeting is astounding.
Women there who have received good fucking really good simply won't fuck the locals anymore because the vast majority of locales are BAD lovers with small cocks and a worse attitude, not to mention absolutely no future.
You don't have to even pay them if you are any good in bed. Imagine that WE the poor white bastard who can't get a second look from a white **** in our home countries are actually in demand there because we bring the rain.
And that my friends is why I love filipinas. 90% of the women I fuck here in Canada are also Filipinas. They are the low hanging fruit and I dont have time to play mental gymnastics with white witches.
Good sex is healthy, wonderful and good for all of us in every way.
It is rare that I directly pay for sex now, but of course I know that we all pay and I certainly don't object. Here at home since March I have bought 8 Fat cunts lunch (their pics always lie) and have not so much as gotten a peck on the cheek.
If you are good in bed in the filipines women will find you!
And that is the truth! I have lived it for years now. IF I lived there full time I could sincerely charge them!
But for me being good in bed is my passion and my hobby and my addiction.
PP.
90% of the women I fuck here in Canada are also Filipinas. They are the low hanging fruit and I dont have time to play mental gymnastics with white witches.
PP.
I too obviously love Filipinas and have had very good luck in the Philippines. But in Canada I have not had any luck. Where are you meeting them? I have found that once they arrive they become more selective. PM if you wish. Sounds like I may have to start going to mass on Sundays to meet some.
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.
Member #4387
06-10-16, 02:20
I too obviously love Filipinas and have had very good luck in the Philippines. But in Canada I have not had any luck. Where are you meeting them? I have found that once they arrive they become more selective. PM if you wish. Sounds like I may have to start going to mass on Sundays to meet some.Lets say Canada and Norway are friends (I think they are). We have a lot of au pairs from phils and I used to fuck a few of them. When me and GF got one ourself (still have one)I humbly say I never been to phils and take it from there. I think this au pair hottie is dating a 20yo something guy (lucky bastard, hehe). I walk around with a hardon everyday. They have a minimum of 30k pisos month(according to gvmnt rules) as minimum. Ofcourse our au pair is getting close to 100k as we are not not a cheapies. Ever tried out the au pair environment stud?
MrWoolyBooly
06-10-16, 03:08
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.If they don't know your real name, sign away, Mr Bond.
More seriously, don't sign anything in Tagalog. But take the paper and ask a trusted native speaker to read it for insight into their intentions. You can't get married with a single signature, though, unless they're already bribing corrupt functionaries.
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.So, for about 6 months you have had a "relationship" with this girl that you have never met in person. I think all who have read your report will agree. RUN away. I have been going to the P. I. For over 20 years and have never heard of this. Perhaps those who live in the P. I. Will offer their opinion. Yikes. I worry for foreigners who get sucked into situations like this. Don't sign anything. Easy for those not involved to offer objective advice.
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.Maybe it is a pledge to keep her a virgin. You really haven't provide any detailed info about yourself or your situation. If this is all you have then good luck.
You probably will give some advice here as there are many who like to tell people what to do.
Lucky you Donald and unlucky me this recession sucks I am in the Oil Patch and things are frankly terrible here.
HOWEVER why ever over pay for anything? It never leads to good. EVER!
I challenge you to tell me how overpaying is positive other than for the recipient which I could and would argue does not benefit in the long run when they have been over paid.
A perfect example is our Oil Patch here, many good people are suffering bankruptcies and suicides are through the roof now because in the past they were overpaid!
Sorry to say this but it is true!
Being overpaid is not a good thing!
Providing good value for proper compensation is good!
PP.Being "overpaid" is not a bad thing. The bad thing is that the overpaid pissed away their money when times were good. According to your Pro forma the unemployed could send their wives or daughters to work in phils and make more money than the average Canadian, like 175 k - 250 k a month.
Why isn't there a migration from the oil patch to the pussy patch? From what I heard (as a joke) there are only 2 kinds of people in Canada, hookers and hockey players. There is no migration because very few girls make that kind of money. Your math calculations might be right but your assumptions are wrong. Girls simply don't make that kind of money day in and day out.
What I don't understand is why does it matter to you anyway what the prices are or what people pay? You are getting a ton of free Filipina pussy all the time! I mean you are the cocksman! Maybe 30 pounds heavier, but it is 10 extra pounds in the sausage and probably 20 more pounds in the brain! Just joking about that.
I just don't see what I am missing.
What I don't understand is why does it matter to you anyway what the prices are or what people pay? You are getting a ton of free Filipina pussy all the time! I mean you are the cocksman! Maybe 30 pounds heavier, but it is 10 extra pounds in the sausage and probably 20 more pounds in the brain! Just joking about that.
I just don't see what I am missing.Yeah I agree. Good observation. Its always the Gods who don't have to pay, and get 'freebies', complaining about us mere mortals who have to pay for pussy 1/2 to 1/3 our age, weight, fitness level etc. From girls about 5 to 10 levels below our economic status.
One note about a real world fact. The random guys who 'overtip' with no forewarning on a new girl in a new bar or online meeting environment have minimal impact on the girls future behavior. The deed is done, she has provided services and has no idea what he will pull out of his piso billfold.
What it will do is depress the services and GFE and overnight for guys who present a laundry list of sex services demanded and time demanded and a pre announced tip of a low value. That is the only guy who can be negatively affected marketwise.
But again the gifted swordsman DG8787 refer to above who don't pay are unaffected.
I have gotten a handful of totally 'free' girls over the years. None were a great prize relatively speaking some were older with kids and some married and happy to get attention. Most honestly were not about to take money and label themselves a working girl. Pinay in the 30+ range are available all day and all night in this category if you have some game. Personally I'm too shallow to feed in this pool when young and tight is available for some small payments but that's just me.
Even with the young innocent ones too shy to ask for money and hoping I'm Mr right and rocking thier world sex wise, provided its not too painful frankly, I still will make them take some money, because really they need it. I have seen where they live and its very sad, so I am not going to apologize for being generous in a small way for one night or a few nights in thier life where they gave all they had, employing thier brief fleeting money maker which a few hard years and grinding poverty will evaporate away soon.
As long as the money is not negotiated up front, over tipping compensation has minimal impact on future market behavior.
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Pinaypounder
06-13-16, 17:28
It matters ot me for several reasons.
1. Once in awhile my GF and I like to engage a professional 3rd party, those costs are up.
2. My GF hears abouts all this money and it changes her expectations and the expectations of EVERY Filipina. Some people are RAISING the bar and trust me it affects every man here.
When the price of gasoline rises do you complain?
When the cost of your steak increases are you happy?
So why facilitate and support the stupid illogical rise in the cost of pussy?
Overpaying for anything is not good!
PP.
Pinaypounder
06-13-16, 17:34
I too obviously love Filipinas and have had very good luck in the Philippines. But in Canada I have not had any luck. Where are you meeting them? I have found that once they arrive they become more selective. PM if you wish. Sounds like I may have to start going to mass on Sundays to meet some.They definitely become more selective because now they go from a being in a bin with 4000 other peanuts to sitting on the top shelf at safeway.
They usually arrive under a 100 lbs which immediately makes them stand out and they are nice and they like older men.
PM me and we can discuss further.
Meet a nice white girl last night could have fucked her is her ass was not 55 inches around, described herself as Average.
My cock took 1 look and said FUCK YOU BOSS we aint fucking that!
Hopefully a 104 lb 41 year old filipina tonight.
PP.
Pinaypounder
06-13-16, 17:40
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.There are MANY nice women there, I think the mom is smart and is protecting her daughter. So its your move, read anything you sign of course, if you actually love the woman and have honourable intentions then you may support it.
If this is not your intention then the Mother proved her point to the daughter about the white devils. Hopefully she is the same about the pinoy man working girls!
You of course are under no obligation except to your heart.
There are indeed many good filipina women the women discussed here by this crew might represent 8 - 10% of the population!
PP.
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.Learn few things before going for non hookers.
1. Do not believe anything the girls say.
2. If mother, aunt, friend etc has to be there when you meet the girl it is seldom you will get to fuck her.
3. Hope you have not sent any money or gifts. Never send anything. Plan to do that only after you enjoy her.
4. There are plenty of girls out there who will fuck your brains out. No reason to dote on one.
BrainDrain
06-14-16, 02:43
I had a Surigao girl this year needing me to meet her family first before we could go dating.
Decided it was easier just to forget her and move on.
I had a feeling that one mummy had seen me and approved then this girl as going to be ok. In the end she just talked about too many 'gifts'. Random strangers do not give iPhone 6 for sex.
While it is interesting to meet bed newbies, if they are the studious type, then they have spent all their life studying and not learning bedroom techniques from their lower academic friends.
There is just so much choice.
BD.
Mr Enternational
06-14-16, 04:15
I had a Surigao girl this year needing me to meet her family first before we could go dating.
Decided it was easier just to forget her and move on.
I had a feeling that one mummy had seen me and approved then this girl as going to be ok. In the end she just talked about too many 'gifts'. Random strangers do not give iPhone 6 for sex.However they do leave iPhone 6s on their kitchen table in a rush to leave the house in order not to miss their flight.
It matters ot me for several reasons.
1. Once in awhile my GF and I like to engage a professional 3rd party, those costs are up.
2. My GF hears abouts all this money and it changes her expectations and the expectations of EVERY Filipina. Some people are RAISING the bar and trust me it affects every man here.
When the price of gasoline rises do you complain?
When the cost of your steak increases are you happy?
So why facilitate and support the stupid illogical rise in the cost of pussy?
Overpaying for anything is not good!
PP.Oh great big Canadian white dick cocksman.
I still don't understand when you are tripping over free pussy lined up for a big white dick. Kind of like when you are driving a hybrid electric car and in the rare occasion you pull in for gasoline. Who cares if the gasoline price went up you are only buying 3 liters.
Why would you and the GF have to pay for another pussy? Can't you bait another girl with the great Canadian white one for a freebie?
If I was getting free steak all the time the price increase wouldn't affect me.
BTW, 99% of the posters here are saying the pinays don't like the big ones and it hurts them and makes them bleed! Do the pinays in Canada have bigger pussies? Or are you using a shoe horn to aid entry?
Cousin and friends joining the first meeting have turned out extraordinarily well for me. There is no perfect formula.
Learn few things before going for non hookers.
1. Do not believe anything the girls say.
2. If mother, aunt, friend etc has to be there when you meet the girl it is seldom you will get to fuck her.
3. Hope you have not sent any money or gifts. Never send anything. Plan to do that only after you enjoy her.
4. There are plenty of girls out there who will fuck your brains out. No reason to dote on one.
Mr Enternational
06-14-16, 13:51
BTW, 99% of the posters here are saying the pinays don't like the big ones and it hurts them and makes them bleed! Do the pinays in Canada have bigger pussies? Or are you using a shoe horn to aid entry?Neither am I head over heels for fucking some Pinays. A lot of times their tight pussies make my dick hurt. Think of sliding a rubberband on and off your dickhead to and from the shaft a couple hundred times.
Wicked Roger
06-14-16, 15:11
Cousin and friends joining the first meeting have turned out extraordinarily well for me. There is no perfect formula.Cousins, BFFs ad mothers all have been good in part for also XMan.
Of course there is the time when it is horrible and I agree with Sammon but there have been wonderful threesomes with mom / daughter or cutie / BFF etc which cannot be ignored.
But I general I try to dissuade until the second date when I have had a chance to see the picture of any cousin, mother etc and decide.
Neither am I head over heels for fucking some Pinays. A lot of times their tight pussies make my dick hurt. Think of sliding a rubberband on and off your dickhead to and from the shaft a couple hundred times.Yep. Pinay pussy is so tight that it rolls up and rolls down my condom while I am stroking it!
I am Ronald, 58 year old but still handsome and slim, from Holland. 50% of time in the Philippines.
I spent so much time in the Philippines that I get sick of Pinay!
I spent so much time in the Philippines that I don't see a difference anymore between a street hooker or a dating girl.
I am handsome and old (58 year) but all seem to be to lazy to swim or walk and just want to jump in bed with me and have sex.
I give them all a little money after they dressed again and I ask them all if they like to go out with me barhopping in Angeles and all most do it till about 10 pm.
Next day most girls (Even DE dating girls who went with me to bed) don't react on texts.
I spent so long time to find out "why" the girls don't return. Yes I like young things like.
I start to figuring it out after I met 25 yo skinny hot "Barbie Ash" on DIA (a not so reliable dating site) from Manila!
Barbie came all the way from Tondo (poor area of Manila) to meet me in Angeles at SM-Clark.
Whole the time she was "detecting" that other man looked to her (talked about that) and whole the time she was chatting while smiling on two smartphones with "mama".
After while I peeked on her phone and saw texts like "can you sneak away" , next day again all text with foreigners.
When I sad to her to stop that while she was me she get "Sad" and did not say a word anymore.
She was just chatting. Not meeting- the other man.
A white man (big, old) I saw on her facebook she called "just a friend who had already a Pinay girlfriend".
Yeah just a friend who she only gave blowjob together with another girl!
She called me crazy and jealous!
I start to believe that all hot girls just want to meet the average tourists, need the attention, need the excitement like the average tourists does.
The second meeting is not so interesting so they forget you.
Exactly what the average tourist like.
And that's why I start to hate Pinay, I like a hot chick to come back every day to me and they just find all kind of excuses to go away or not to come back!
One other hot chick (19 yo) streetwalker Lyka I met in Davao asked 30.000 p each month to stay with me cause her "sick" (I call it dumb) parents have 12 younger kids.
I boom boomed her (including with other "girlfriends" of her) a lot of times and she always left me in the middle of the night cause she needed the "excitement of the hunt".
Javier from Spain is making money over and she said to me she would stay whole night with him, threat someone she never met better then me who she already 10 x met.
Yeah they break you're heart they forget you next day they want to threat the next foreigner better then you.
My problem is I think I am to smart for this country, I see all plays and lies.
And the Pinay hate a man who are seeing what they are doing, cause all woman also in the Philippines want to in control.
Thanks for reading and thanks for comments, please from people who spent also a lot of time already in the Philippines and preferable from people who have hooked a pretty young Pinay.
I am Ronald, 58 year old but still handsome and slim, from Holland. 50% of time in the Philippines.
I spent so much time in the Philippines that I get sick of Pinay!
I spent so much time in the Philippines that I don't see a difference anymore between a street hooker or a dating girl.
I am handsome and old (58 year) but all seem to be to lazy to swim or walk and just want to jump in bed with me and have sex.
I give them all a little money after they dressed again and I ask them all if they like to go out with me barhopping in Angeles and all most do it till about 10 pm.
Next day most girls (Even DE dating girls who went with me to bed) don't react on texts.
I spent so long time to find out "why" the girls don't return. Yes I like young things like.
I start to figuring it out after I met 25 yo skinny hot "Barbie Ash" on DIA (a not so reliable dating site) from Manila!
Barbie came all the way from Tondo (poor area of Manila) to meet me in Angeles at SM-Clark.
Whole the time she was "detecting" that other man looked to her (talked about that) and whole the time she was chatting while smiling on two smartphones with "mama".
After while I peeked on her phone and saw texts like "can you sneak away" , next day again all text with foreigners.What you say is not that unusual. Different culture, different attitudes. As a 58 yr old your getting sex with young women, something you can not do back in Holland. You want more, but there is no more, at your age, LOL. You say you give them "little money" , maybe too little. The fact they do not return indicates they can get better elsewhere, otherwise they would return to you.
Just go with the flow, get the sex and move on like they do. If you want them to stay you will most probably have to start dating women in their 40's, someone more compatible, but for sex with young women, Phils is still tops.
You say your getting tired of Filipinas. That's natural enough. Too much of anything is not a good thing. A person can eat just so much ice cream. The Phils is a candy store, there is just so much candy a person can eat, at any one time. Have a break from the land of plenty (sex) , leave the Phils and when the hunger returns, do it all over again (in Phils).
I have observed people from your part of the world try and change the Filipinos. That will not happen. You might be trying to discipline them, change them, thus they do not return after one experience with you. Enjoy what they have to offer right now, and forget the rest, LOL.
Have a break, return to sanity, Holland, then when ready dive in again (Phils).
At 58 yrs, you look handsome to women? Lucky you, LOL. Perhaps they do not return to your room cause they find someone handsome at 38 yrs? Adjusting to the reality of ageing will help you, methinks.
WestCoast1
06-16-16, 02:50
My problem is I think I am to smart for this country, I see all plays and lies.
And the Pinay hate a man who are seeing what they are doing, cause all woman also in the Philippines want to in control.
Thanks for reading and thanks for comments, please from people who spent also a lot of time already in the Philippines and preferable from people who have hooked a pretty young Pinay.What, exactly, are you looking for?
Dear Mr. Holland,
Not every girl is a hooker. You don't see the difference because of the severe rejections you have experienced and are looking thru bitter lens.
58 is old and no longer handsome to many young girls. Social economics make you better looking to some pinays.
Most guys would not complain if the girls forgoes preliminary events and goes straight to bed. Seems like you are looking for something else.
A little money does nothing.
A little money does nothing.
A little money does nothing.
These girls have to eat and survive and take care of their family. You have failed to understand this and probably the main reason you are not repeatable. It looks like you need the money more than the girls. You are no catch. Handsomeness does not put food in the stomach nor pay the 1500 pesos a month rent for the family.
Hint #1. This is not Holland.
Hint #2. This is not Holland.
Hint #3. This is not Holland.
I have repeated it 3 times hopefully you will get the hint. I don't think you have yet and you are still comparing with your standards and values.
I would bet 10,000 pesos you have had this problem in finding a relationship in your mother land too. Simple deduction is if you can't find one here in Phil then you can't find one anywhere.
One of the problems is that you think you are too smart. Let me tell you the pinays are smarter than you. You have the empty bed.
The fact is that it is all about you! Even the pinays can see that and run like hell. In their eyes you do not provide a future. If you want a future then you need to understand her needs and her family needs.
You may be suffering from Handsomeness / Beautiful syndrome where as you got things handed to you in the younger years and now, nothing and having a hard time surviving.
You are in Philippines, understand the cultural and the people.
Abby.
She called me crazy and jealous!
I start to believe that all hot girls just want to meet the average tourists, need the attention, need the excitement like the average tourists does.
The second meeting is not so interesting so they forget you.
Two thoughts. First, I've come across many girls here who believe conflict is a way to demonstrate affection. If you don't care, you won't get jealous, angry, etc. Barbie's texting other blokes in front of you may be a tactic to see how you react. (It can also be a power play to show you she has options.) Because I usually don't care, I flip the script and start texting other women in front of them, and then I up the ante by telling the girl about the other girls and the funny things they do. Keep it humourous. Some girls get offended. Other girls, who are accustomed to fellas denying and lying, become intrigued. My gambit is to become their confidant, their partner in crime so to speak. This can establish an emotional bond they want to continue.
Second, within some groups of women there is a competition to see who can attract the most admirers and the goodies that come with admiration, such as lavish dinners, holidays at luxurious resorts, gifts, etc. I have a girl introduce her facebook friends by asking her to tell me about them. If you start hearing a lot of "This is Jenelle, she has a German boyfriend. He took her to Palawan (photo) and bought her an iPhone 6 (photo), etc." If this continues with the other friends she describes then you're dealing with a woman who's using you to advance herself within her social group. Her attachment is to the competition within the group, the esteem she gains through their admiration, the happiness she feels knocking down a rival, and you're just a means to that end. Dealing with a person like this is pain, and since she isn't a family member there's really no need to get pulled into it. Play along if you want, but if you're not giving her the tangible evidence she needs to show to her frenemies she'll move on.
BrainDrain
06-17-16, 06:23
I know we hear a lot about asking if the barfine girl is on mens, reds etc. I wonder if it is just an excuse or convenience.
Walk into any bar in Angeles and 1 in 6 girls, waitress, etc are menstruating. 4-5 days per month out of 28 day menstrual cycle.
It's always worth asking, as the girls can't go off the roster just for mens. Besides they don't get barfined every night, so they can still get their day rate plus a few lady drinks and tips.
So, on my last trip to AC, had two girls in bed where the fact they were menstruating was something they were prepared to still have sex. One asked for a towel on the bed, the other asked to continue in the shower so the blood would go straight down the sink. These were dating site girls not barfine girls.
Previous trips a girl that met me at the airport, didn't let me go down on her pussy as she still had some spots. Another provincial girl her menstruation didn't seem to curtail her youthful enthusiasm.
So, menstruation is not the end of sex, although I wouldn't go down on a menstruating pussy.
The more pinay you take, the more you will hit the cycle.
Thoughts, opinions and advice.
BD.
Wolvenvacht
06-17-16, 06:59
And that's why I start to hate Pinay, I like a hot chick to come back every day to me and they just find all kind of excuses to go away or not to come back!Yes, it is unbelievable that these young pinays do not have the brains to queue up to you for a chance to avail themselves of your 58 year old dick. I say, it is a shame they do not offer to pay you for the honour to be fucked over and over again by an old (but still handsome) Ducthman!
Mr Enternational
06-17-16, 13:50
Two thoughts. First, I've come across many girls here who believe conflict is a way to demonstrate affection. If you don't care, you won't get jealous, angry, etc. Barbie's texting other blokes in front of you may be a tactic to see how you react. (It can also be a power play to show you she has options.) No normal self-respecting Pinay is going to be chatting with/texting other guys in your presence. A hooker or gold-digger may do that (and I encourage them to do so because I am nosey and want to see the game being played out), but not a regular chick.
And they must do believe confict is a way of showing affection. But I am not a conflict person. I will give her time to cool off or change her attitude. Especially after reading about Filipinas and tampo. A couple of weeks ago my girl started shit for absolutely no reason at all. I just agreed with her and gave her a few days to get back to normal.
Yes, it is unbelievable that these young pinays do not have the brains to queue up to you for a chance to avail themselves of your 58 year old dick. I say, it is a shame they do not offer to pay you for the honour to be fucked over and over again by an old (but still handsome) Ducthman!I find it a little strange that he makes a point of telling us twice in the same post how handsome he is, and has said the same on other boards. He really does sound unable to submerse himself in local culture. Mate -- we really don't care, and neither do they as long as you don't think 58 is some sort of bonus to them. As others have pointed out, it's not. There are plenty of younger men, who look better to be seen with, probably treat them in a way that makes them feel a bit like equals, and pay what you pay. They might be 'escorts', but when they walk around or hang out with a much older man it's like wearing a great big sign that everyone can see advertising that they are being paid for sex.
Pinays generally are not highly sophisticated. I've always found common sense works well with them. They generally do not seem to have some well-understood code of escorting that might be found in Thailand or Europe, or much beyond whatever bar they work in imposes. Interact with them as human beings rather than just numbers-for-pay and results can be quite heartwarming (especially outside of AC).
AlwaysLoveAsia
06-17-16, 16:42
Hey guys,
I been talking to a Filipinas off and on since January and I'm finally going to Phil hang with her few days and then tour on from there. But first time I ever heard of this as I am now going to Phil she tells me I have to sign some kind of respect paper from her mother? Is this sound sketchy? And not a secret marriage certificate. I'd for sure read it but it will probably be in Tagalog and I don't know many words.
Thanks for any help first time that I've come across this.Dear Perchie15,
I lived 8 years in the Philippines, and never was "alone". In this 8 years I had many friends from Europe, US and Australia. But this I even never heard before! Sign a document. Really, even never heard about that!
First of all: never sign a document that you do not understand. Not from girlfriend or her mother, but too, not from police or anybody! And specially not in the Philippines, because in the Phils English is the official language for everything that is official, contract, documents etc.
To your attention, in the Phils you have as a foreigner, if it comes to something like an problem, in practice, as good as no rights! Except, for (a lot of) money you can buy off the problem. You will pay a lot of money and that will be shared. If not, it comes for a judge. In 6-10 months. And till then you will wait for the trial in jail.
I strongly advise you not to sign any paper, document. And in the Phils you need no "contact". As soon as you are there you will have immediately contact.
I guarantee that to you. In the bar, but too in the local hamburger restaurant Jolibee, in the mall where you drink a coffee, talk and ask expats and ong time tourist and you will get advice. Let us say it this way: can you swim without getting wet? Same in the Phills, you cannot go around in the Phils without having contact with women. From bar girls till salesladies. Do not worry.
Do not be a drunk, stay far away from drugs, cloth conventional (no shorts, no underwear). Be friendly, smile, do not argue, certainly not with police!
I know we hear a lot about asking if the barfine girl is on mens, reds etc. I wonder if it is just an excuse or convenience.
Walk into any bar in Angeles and 1 in 6 girls, waitress, etc are menstruating. 4-5 days per month out of 28 day menstrual cycle.
It's always worth asking, as the girls can't go off the roster just for mens. Besides they don't get barfined every night, so they can still get their day rate plus a few lady drinks and tips.
So, on my last trip to AC, had two girls in bed where the fact they were menstruating was something they were prepared to still have sex. One asked for a towel on the bed, the other asked to continue in the shower so the blood would go straight down the sink. These were dating site girls not barfine girls.
Previous trips a girl that met me at the airport, didn't let me go down on her pussy as she still had some spots. Another provincial girl her menstruation didn't seem to curtail her youthful enthusiasm.
So, menstruation is not the end of sex, although I wouldn't go down on a menstruating pussy.
The more pinay you take, the more you will hit the cycle.
Thoughts, opinions and advice.
BD.1. There are girls that love sex during menstration. Some have bigger O's during mens.
2. Always have hydrogen peroxide handy to get the red out of the sheets.
3. Go down on her and earn your Red Wings sir.
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