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If you are marriage minded you can find tons of girls all over the world to marry. To get cream of the crop so to say is hard. And to get young girls with a age difference of 50 years or more can only be done in certain countries. Add to that is poor girls who will grab at anything for a better life.
It is anybody's guess what the future of the marriage holds once the girl feels comfortable and got a gravy train. There are girls who will never think of straying and committed to relationship. And there are others who are so called gold diggers. When you get married who knows if you are getting the former or latter types.
IMHO if you are a casual monger dipping into many honeypots better have a casual relationship with no commitments. If you living in the said country or disposed to have a live in girl better to get married. Otherwise girl is going to look around.
Now next step is marriage comes with responsibility. Not only to the girl in many countries also to her extended family because family ties are strong in many countries. Legal matters as to who owns the house or business matters. There are many who are left penniless.
Each has to make their own decisions.
Mr Enternational
06-09-19, 14:52
There are girls who will never think of straying and committed to relationship. And there are others who are so called gold diggers. When you get married who knows if you are getting the former or latter types.You should fucking know. Or is this some special gift that only I have? The chicks that I deal with are obviously not gold diggers because I do not give them money (and they have never asked) or take them out for gifts (exception being birthday).
A few weeks ago in Manila I was telling one of my chicks that I did not have any money. She asked if I needed her to give me some. I looked in my wallet and saw that I had just enough for the Grab to the airport and told her that I would be alright. If you find yourself handing your girl money everytime you kiss each other goodbye, then enter this type of relationship at your own damn risk!
Engine Driver
06-09-19, 23:49
He is going to feel very strange and desolate when she takes him to divorce court.She will only be taking him to divorce court after her permanent residency visa is safely stamped in her passport. In some cases, the poor monger has been known to sponsor her trike driver boyfriend, posing as her brother, to the rich, white man land for residency.
You should fucking know. Or is this some special gift that only I have? The chicks that I deal with are obviously not gold diggers because I do not give them money (and they have never asked) or take them out for gifts (exception being birthday).
A few weeks ago in Manila I was telling one of my chicks that I did not have any money. She asked if I needed her to give me some. I looked in my wallet and saw that I had just enough for the Grab to the airport and told her that I would be alright. If you find yourself handing your girl money everytime you kiss each other goodbye, then enter this type of relationship at your own damn risk!You need to remember the caliber of the guys falling for the Marry a Hooker dreams.
Not all, but many, don't have the social skills nor confidence to snag a decent partner stateside. Hence, they turn to internet marriage schemes, amorous bar girls or similar.
How do you expect him to man up and approach a hot looking but normal girl in the supermarket / bank etc? Let alone be interesting enough that she will actually want to be with him. And meeting through friends of friends? Forget it as all his friends in country are mongers. That's all waaaaay too intimidating for our guy. Much easier to throw some cash at a rice farmer's daughter, help with numerous family medical emergencies then complain when it all collapses.
I'll stick with my theory that there are lots of naughty girls to play with and good girls worth keeping. You just need to be able to tell the difference and not get the rolls reversed.
Enjoy. G.
GoodEnough
06-10-19, 01:36
Agreed GE but rather paradoxically we continue to remain members of ISG and even post messages from time to time.Right RK, but I think the that most of the content in many if not most of the posts we write are somewhat different, and intended to provide some insight into the country based on our years of living here. I'm not trying to be self-rightous, but I think our points of view are somewhat different from that of short-term visitors.
GE.
You should fucking know. Or is this some special gift that only I have? The chicks that I deal with are obviously not gold diggers because I do not give them money (and they have never asked) or take them out for gifts (exception being birthday).
A few weeks ago in Manila I was telling one of my chicks that I did not have any money. She asked if I needed her to give me some. I looked in my wallet and saw that I had just enough for the Grab to the airport and told her that I would be alright. If you find yourself handing your girl money everytime you kiss each other goodbye, then enter this type of relationship at your own damn risk!I have made many trips over the years all over the world and lived in China for a while. Only when I lived in China I had girlfriends without financial support. All the same I had to spend money other ways by buying gifts and taking them on vacations. But if I needed casual Karaoke girl I had to give money. My target is in the age group of 18-24 . Maybe if I date older girls I need not give any money. But none of the younger girls refused money.
When I travel it is purely for mongering. I do not have time to play dating game and hope she will open her legs. I want a sure thing and previously discussed and agreed sex. My girls are mainly from DIA and I have found some gems. Cheaper and friendlier than bargirls.
I will definitely compensate the girls for their time and effort. All need money even if they do not come out and say so. I am financially stable and can afford to help out. I have even put girls through schools over years as charity. Just last year I put a girl through hospitality school costing me roughly 20000 pesos and now she is working 10 hours a day in a cebu resort. She is grateful and takes care of my needs when I visit.
I will not cry poverty in order not to compensate. I will not believe anybody who says girls do not want money from a casual monger.
Chocha Monger
06-10-19, 03:20
She will only be taking him to divorce court after her permanent residency visa is safely stamped in her passport. In some cases, the poor monger has been known to sponsor her trike driver boyfriend, posing as her brother, to the rich, white man land for residency.Many of those unfortunate monger husbands can no longer get it up and are content to observe the trike driver 'brother' cuckolding them from the safety of the bedroom keyhole or the slats in the door of the walk-in closet. After all, they know the Grim Reaper is drawing near and a bit of cuckolding and drama invigorates the old fellows. These codgers chat up strangers at their favorite watering hole and ogle passing tarts, as their grip weakens on their perch with each day.
Right RK, but I think the that most of the content in many if not most of the posts we write are somewhat different, and intended to provide some insight into the country based on our years of living here.
I absolutely agree. A quick review of our post history would reveal that we always try to distinguish between the merits of living here long-term in stable relationships and the perils of being a short-term visitor and being exposed to the seedier sides of pinoy life only.
Mr Enternational
06-10-19, 04:28
You need to remember the caliber of the guys falling for the Marry a Hooker dreams.
Not all, but many, don't have the social skills nor confidence to snag a decent partner stateside. Hence, they turn to internet marriage schemes, amorous bar girls or similar.You are damn right not all, because many of my good buddies that definitely should have known better have fallen for the exact same marrying a hooker for it to end horribly wrong shit. It is amazing to me.
Even my buddy that lives in AC who was taking care of that one chick's kids. He is seventy-something and has lived in major mongering places since retiring: Brazil, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica so he definitely knew better. So somehow the chick ended up dying and he is still supporting the kids. I vividly remember sitting up at Kokomo's and telling him that was not his responsibility. LOL. He got angry and argued with me about it saying I know what I am doing.
Come to find out the chick did not die; no idea why they even said she died. I guess she no longer wanted to see him, but still wanted to see his money. He looked like a total dumb ass. He said yeah man you were right. Taking care of those kids was not my responsibility. I will never do something like that again.
Mr Enternational
06-10-19, 04:50
Right RK, but I think the that most of the content in many if not most of the posts we write are somewhat different, and intended to provide some insight into the country based on our years of living here. I'm not trying to be self-rightous, but I think our points of view are somewhat different from that of short-term visitors.And the info given by these type of guys has been invaluable to me over the years. I can always find a hole to stick my dick in. That is the easy part.
Mr Enternational
06-10-19, 05:08
But none of the younger girls refused money. All need money even if they do not come out and say so. I will not believe anybody who says girls do not want money from a casual monger.This has always been a weird argument to me. If I go up to my mom, daughter, brother, dad, aunt, cousin, best friend (who is rich) and hand them $100, NONE of them are going to refuse it. ALL need money (me included) even if they do not come out and say so. Not many people period turn down money when it is offered. So I really do not see the point in the argument saying this particular group never refuses money when offered, therefore it is supposed to be offered.
Maybe you feel like a jackazz and that you are robbing someone of something if you do not offer money, and offering money helps you to get over those feelings? I have never had those feelings. I have no problem paying the chicks that I am supposed to pay, but I am not going to pay chicks that I am not supposed to be paying. And like I have said before, many of these are chicks that I have been seeing for years. Would you believe they have been waiting that long and coming back time and time again, hoping I will finally get the picture and give them money?
I will not believe anybody who says girls do not want money from a casual monger.I agree with the tone of your post but think seeing everything in absolutes is a mistake.
I'm sure I'm not alone in having had a hooker as an unpaid girlfriend, another give a "two for the price of one" deal on our second meeting or girls point blank refuse payment in the morning.
I don't want to present these as frequent occurrences and others are free to believe me or not. However, to say ALL girls want payment for a casual meeting is incorrect.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
06-10-19, 08:24
Not all, but many, don't have the social skills nor confidence to snag a decent partner stateside. Hence, they turn to internet marriage schemes, amorous bar girls or similar.
It's not really a case of lacking in confidence. The 65 year old monger knows that in his white country, that his options are limited. He doesn't want to go onto Tinder and flick through pictures of old white women in the 50-70 year range. If he has a job, a house without a mortgage and car, he would actually be considered a good catch for an old, white divorcee. The trouble with old white divorcees is that their skin will be shrivelled, their pussies will be loose and smelly and they will usually be obese. They will also be loud, outspoken and demanding.
Fuck that! Monger is going to the Philippines where he can get himself a beautiful, coffee color skinned fucking machine who is the same age as his youngest daughter. Picking up young chicks boosts his ego. He feels like a king as he surveys the impoverished landscape around him. Pulling out a big wad of blue notes makes him feel like a big man about town. He loves being called Sir every 20 yards in this third world shit hole. He just wishes he was 40 years younger so he didn't have to take 200 MG of Viagra in order just to piiss standing up.
Don't feel sorry for this old white monger. He loves what he is doing.
I have made many trips over the years all over the world and lived in China for a while. Only when I lived in China I had girlfriends without financial support. All the same I had to spend money other ways by buying gifts and taking them on vacations. But if I needed casual Karaoke girl I had to give money. My target is in the age group of 18-24 . Maybe if I date older girls I need not give any money. But none of the younger girls refused money.You are almost correct about China. I have mixed experiences about China and have very pleasant experiences too. Right now I have two regular GF, one Choingqing city, she is relatively rich in China aspect. Once I arrive in Chongqing I get free driver, free interpreter, many free dinners with her friends and happy nights. Other one is in Xuzhou, doing decent job but have big heart forcing always to pay dinners or even my hotel bills by herself. Never allowed her to do these but she gives me big pleasure when she accept my gifts reluctantly.
When I travel it is purely for mongering. I do not have time to play dating game and hope she will open her legs. I want a sure thing and previously discussed and agreed sex. My girls are mainly from DIA and I have found some gems. Cheaper and friendlier than bargirls.I'm with you. Bar girls not my cup of tea, since there are plenty coming from dating sites. As well I always share their expanses either they ask or not.
All need money even if they do not come out and say so. .......I will not cry poverty in order not to compensate. I will not believe anybody who says girls do not want money from a casual monger.Here I disagree with you, I m very sure every body not after money. I have two regular in Manila and m very sure they are not suffering with poverty. They always strongly refused any share from me for their expanses. We exchanges gifts gladly, they come my hotel on their own, we dine, drink, I make my time for them as they have available for me, even for days. And and they go back by their own too. Once I arrive from Cebu at NAIA to catch my China flight, that time I failed to give time in manila. But my Binando girl arrived in her quickest time in airport to give gifts for me and a just a kiss.
M very sure it was not for money.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=662926230846576
If you think most of these girls want you for your heart. Maybe you should watch this. Better yet translate the comments many Filipino / Na guys are saying on this video. They after green card or easy trip to another country or easy guy to cheat on.
PedroMorales
07-03-19, 14:54
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7208331/Filipino-bride-52-loses-court-fight-share-husbands-fortune.html
The Pinav widow, who had a pre-nup, got screwed by her lawyer. She should have taken what was on offer. Her late husband obviously had a taste for exotic crumpet. It is odd to see £220,000 described as a fortune.
Note they met in the Philippines and married shortly after.
Anyway, this poor Pinay is now poorer than ever. Perhaps one of our kinder members might ask for her hand in marriage.
Chocha Monger
07-04-19, 13:00
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7208331/Filipino-bride-52-loses-court-fight-share-husbands-fortune.html
The Pinav widow, who had a pre-nup, got screwed by her lawyer. She should have taken what was on offer. Her late husband obviously had a taste for exotic crumpet. It is odd to see 220,000 described as a fortune.
Note they met in the Philippines and married shortly after.
Anyway, this poor Pinay is now poorer than ever. Perhaps one of our kinder members might ask for her hand in marriage.That is one ugly Pinay! Mongers considering marrying a Pinay should remember that they not age well. The one in the article looks very scary. The old fellow probably screamed every time he opened his eyes to that hag in his bed. However, the story is a typical one for mongers who import a Pinay to their homeland. She cheated on him, driving him to strong drink and an early grave. While she did not get half of his meagre fortune, she did manage to get another monger to take her in after her husband caught her sampling other cocks. Still, she should have taken the 10 K and one-way ticket back to the rice farm. Instead, she succumbed to greed and ended up with 63 quid monthly, which will not cover the cost of her litigiousness.
220,000 euros is not a small fortune. It is still a lot of money. Most mongers here don't even come close to that.
I don't see anything that says she hooked up with another monger. Let's stick to facts. 50 year old with a 70 year old man is not exactly a young gold digger. Most women would contest the pre agreed 10 k, it is not a Pinay "thing".
The kids offered her 1/3 settlement but she rolled the dice for 1/2 and lost. Possibly based on her lawyer's advice that 1/2 was win able! I always contend that a settlement agreement is a lot better than to let the Judge decide.
She still got 10 k and a ticket home.
220,000 euros is not a small fortune. It is still a lot of money. Most mongers here don't even come close to that.
.....Really? I would think that at least double or triple that would be the minimum to retire here and have a life of non stop mongering, unless there was a pension providing a nice steady income.
The girl came to me at my budget hotel for a date in Makati. I found her on FC she is a 30 yo with 2 kids. We first walked to and ate at SubWay, (I really splurged) and then back to room. Since this was a date with a normal girl having a good job I just asked her if she would like to come to my room and lie down with me awhile. She said of course, must have been the over the top dinner splurge. She showered because she had come directly from work one hour by Grab. Total GFE. Interesting thing to note is she wanted to hold my cock while we slept. She said she always slept with her husbands cock in her hand when she was married to a guy who ended up already being married to another girl so my girl got a lawyer and fake marriage was erased from record. She is now legally single, Anyway she stayed all night, held and stroked my cock all night. Maybe her way to keep me from secretly slipping away under cover of darkness. That hand Kept me from getting much sleep, this was an interesting experience for me. Great BBBJ and FS. About Money, She was short of enough to get back home in her wallet so I graciously gave her Grab fare to get there. That was it. And of course dinner and something to hold onto all night. I do what I can to be a good date.
PedroMorales
07-10-19, 07:57
Interesting thing to note is she wanted to hold my cock while we slept..Good to know. Did she walk your cock out to the shower for a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) or did you you just go in the bed or lean over the side?
Engine Driver
07-11-19, 12:15
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7208331/Filipino-bride-52-loses-court-fight-share-husbands-fortune.html
The Pinav widow, who had a pre-nup, got screwed by her lawyer. She should have taken what was on offer. Her late husband obviously had a taste for exotic crumpet. It is odd to see 220,000 described as a fortune.
Note they met in the Philippines and married shortly after.
Anyway, this poor Pinay is now poorer than ever. Perhaps one of our kinder members might ask for her hand in marriage.The judge describes this as a modest amount and was mainly derived from the value of the house. I would've have thought that after sticking with this old prick for 18 years, the ugly Pinay deserved more than 10,000 pounds and one way ticket back to her province.
The man seemed like a serial Asian pussy hunter. Dorothy, his daughter, certainly looks Asian and has an Indonesian surname.
Mr Enternational
07-11-19, 12:48
The judge describes this as a modest amount and was mainly derived from the value of the house. I would've have thought that after sticking with this old prick for 18 years, the ugly Pinay deserved more than 10,000 pounds and one way ticket back to her province.Or you can look at it as she lived like a queen for 18 years, way better than she would have had it back home (unless you suspect better offers were banging down her door.) Now the party was over.
Engine Driver
07-11-19, 13:02
Or you can look at it as she lived like a queen for 18 years, way better than she would have had it back home (unless you suspect better offers were banging down her door.)That's quite funny. I'm not sure she lived like a queen. Life in England would be quite miserable for a Pinay married to an old prick who was not wealthy. All she could look forward to would be fish and chips on a Friday night, washed down with a pint of lager at the local pub. And then going home, taking the drunk, old codger's shrivelled 3 inch dick in her mouth and giving him a blow job. I do not know how Pinays survive in miserable, cold places like Sweden, Norway or Minnesota.
That's quite funny. I'm not sure she lived like a queen. Life in England would be quite miserable for a Pinay married to an old prick who was not wealthy. All she could look forward to would be fish and chips on a Friday night, washed down with a pint of lager at the local pub. And then going home, taking the drunk, old codger's shrivelled 3 inch dick in her mouth and giving him a blow job. I do not know how Pinays survive in miserable, cold places like Sweden, Norway or Minnesota.Compared to cyclones, earthquakes, floods, landslides, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, and wildfires it might not be that bad. If they come from poor living conditions I'm sure Norway would be appealing.
Chocha Monger
07-12-19, 00:53
Or you can look at it as she lived like a queen for 18 years, way better than she would have had it back home (unless you suspect better offers were banging down her door.) Now the party was over.She is very ugly, alcoholic, and adulterous. A marriage to the mongering relic in exchange for swallowing his stale seed and bad beer for 18 years was the best deal she could have ever hoped to muster. The judge realized this and ruled accordingly in the favor of the hot Indonesian Brit stepdaughter. Ten thousand sterling and a one-way ticket back to her Philippine backwater is a fair deal. She obviously did nothing to improve her lot independent of the old codger's meager fortune.
..... I do not know how Pinays survive in miserable, cold places like Sweden, Norway or Minnesota.In the Canadian Yukon the part north of 60 degrees just east of and much colder than Alaska, Philippine born is the largest contingent of non Canadian born people there. An engineer that I worked with had family there, they had a lot of problems adjusting to put it mildly.
Wicked Roger
07-12-19, 05:21
That's quite funny. I'm not sure she lived like a queen. Life in England would be quite miserable for a Pinay married to an old prick who was not wealthy. All she could look forward to would be fish and chips on a Friday night, washed down with a pint of lager at the local pub. And then going home, taking the drunk, old codger's shrivelled 3 inch dick in her mouth and giving him a blow job. I do not know how Pinays survive in miserable, cold places like Sweden, Norway or Minnesota.Not just old ED.
I know one married her 'dream man' who ended up in a trailer in the middle of Oregon. The same trailer where his parents lived LOL They then had her milking cows or something like that. Great dream? Her way to keep warm was to go to the nearest town and bang any suitor who liked her (plenty there trust me) until she got the green card and then divorced the dream man and found something better and warmer LOL.
I know another in Finland who husband bought her new susus (IE boobs) that look very nice. He keeps her warm by buying her a very fancy Merc sports car plus other things so she is happy despite the cold but took her 2 years to get used to the chill.
Watched a couple of episodes of 90 day fiance; some were from PI. It is pretty sad but enlightening.
Chocha Monger
07-13-19, 19:13
Not just old ED.
I know one married her 'dream man' who ended up in a trailer in the middle of Oregon. The same trailer where his parents lived LOL They then had her milking cows or something like that. Great dream? Her way to keep warm was to go to the nearest town and bang any suitor who liked her (plenty there trust me) until she got the green card and then divorced the dream man and found something better and warmer LOL.
Milking bulls in wintery Oregon was still a great improvement for the Pinay hooker cum milkmaid. It would have been surprising had she not gone into town to milk and ride random cowboys bareback. It is extremely foolish to expect these women to change their penchant for promiscuity upon arrival to the USA. Surely, the trailer dweller knew that he was not importing a nun, as her proficiency at milking him at his hotel convinced him that she was the one to marry.
PedroMorales
07-14-19, 00:33
Chocha Monger,
Love conquers all. It is the essence of life and it can bloom in the wilds of Oregon (LOL) as much as elsewhere. The last foreigners sent to Oregon to milk cows were German POWs and they loved it.
The story is hilarious, however. Mr Hilbilly flies the coop at the OK Corral and comes back with an Asian slave who thinks she has married JR Ewing or Brad Pitt but finds herself in Brokeback Mountain country. I bet the guy was broken hearted as he had given her everything a gal could want: a mat to sleep on with the dog, a fine pair of Wellington boots for the snow, lamb stew three times a day and a stool to sit on as she milked the moo moos. They might have made a musical out of it.
Milking bulls in wintery Oregon was still a great improvement for the Pinay hooker cum milkmaid.
Not just old ED.I know one married her 'dream man' who ended up in a trailer in the middle of Oregon. The same trailer where his parents lived LOL They then had her milking cows or something like that. Great dream? Her way to keep warm was to go to the nearest town and bang any suitor who liked her (plenty there trust me) until she got the green card and then divorced the dream man and found something better and warmer LOL..
Watched a couple of episodes of 90 day fiance; some were from PI. It is pretty sad but enlightening.Its fake and for entertainment purposes only.
.....but took her 2 years to get used to the chill.My observation is that you have to be from a race that evolved in the cold, Northern Europeans and Native North Americans for example AND you had to grow up in a cold climate.
Pinas never really adapt to the cold, nor do people of African ancestry. OTOH, I have Northern European ancestry, grew up in the cold and have trouble adjusting to the heat.
Blue Touch
07-14-19, 03:30
Scientific study suggests that human tolerance of severe weather is acquired, rather than innate, ability. Genes have no influence.
My observation is that you have to be from a race that evolved in the cold, Northern Europeans and Native North Americans for example AND you had to grow up in a cold climate.
Pinas never really adapt to the cold, nor do people of African ancestry. OTOH, I have Northern European ancestry, grew up in the cold and have trouble adjusting to the heat..
Engine Driver
07-14-19, 11:08
Milking bulls in wintery Oregon was still a great improvement for the Pinay hooker cum milkmaid. It would have been surprising had she not gone into town to milk and ride random cowboys bareback. It is extremely foolish to expect these women to change their penchant for promiscuity upon arrival to the USA. Surely, the trailer dweller knew that he was not importing a nun, as her proficiency at milking him at his hotel convinced him that she was the one to marry.Yes indeed. Putting up with the cold in wintery Oregan while milking her handsome bull for a few years was a small price to pay for this cool, calculating Pinay. She finally got the highly sought after green card and then a life in the Californian sun with her trike driver boyfriend from Angeles City.
CM, where does this promiscuous attitude come from? Pinays are meant to be god-fearing, devout Catholics who know they are going to hell for adultery. Corinthians 6:9-10. LOL.
AussieGaigin
07-14-19, 11:27
CM, where does this promiscuous attitude come from? Pinays are meant to be god-fearing, devout Catholics who know they are going to hell for adultery. Corinthians 6:9-10. LOL.But they can just hop off to confession on Monday to get their conscience cleared for the following weekend.
But they can just hop off to confession on Monday to get their conscience cleared for the following weekend.Very handy that. There's a very prominent Aussie Bishop who is currently multitasking religious penance with secular incarceration.
Enjoy. G.
My observation is that you have to be from a race that evolved in the cold, Northern Europeans and Native North Americans for example AND you had to grow up in a cold climate.
Pinas never really adapt to the cold, nor do people of African ancestry. OTOH, I have Northern European ancestry, grew up in the cold and have trouble adjusting to the heat.Funny how I have seen many brazilians (not hookers, normal middle class professional girls) who last only for two winters. The first one has the novelty factor, but by the second one they decide to move back to Brazil.
Having said that, my ex (engineer with MBA from top school working for Mckinsey) is in Madrid bracing for her second winter. Time will tell.
Mr Enternational
07-14-19, 16:54
Funny how I have seen many brazilians (not hookers, normal middle class professional girls) who last only for two winters. The first one has the novelty factor, but by the second one they decide to move back to Brazil.
Having said that, my ex (engineer with MBA from top school working for Mckinsey) is in Madrid bracing for her second winter. Time will tell.Funny. My ex from Rio has been living in Winnipeg Canada for the last few years. I broke up with her years ago when she moved from Rio to Dublin. I could not take just visiting, but for some reason she doesn't mind the cold places.
And the chicks I talk to from Thailand always say they like Norway and Sweeden, so.
Chocha Monger
07-14-19, 16:58
Yes indeed. Putting up with the cold in wintery Oregan while milking her handsome bull for a few years was a small price to pay for this cool, calculating Pinay. She finally got the highly sought after green card and then a life in the Californian sun with her trike driver boyfriend from Angeles City.
CM, where does this promiscuous attitude come from? Pinays are meant to be god-fearing, devout Catholics who know they are going to hell for adultery. Corinthians 6:9-10. LOL.When forgiveness is unlimited, so are lies, adultery, thievery, and murder. That is their strength and their downfall. Those who hitch their fortunes and futures to such duplicitous creatures seldom fare well.
I actually know a Venezuelan engineer living in Canada, in the oil fields, but for her is limited choice professionally speaking. She rather takes the polar bears than the saudis I guess.
Funny. My ex from Rio has been living in Winnipeg Canada for the last few years. I broke up with her years ago when she moved from Rio to Dublin. I could not take just visiting, but for some reason she doesn't mind the cold places.
And the chicks I talk to from Thailand always say they like Norway and Sweeden, so.
Funny. My ex from Rio has been living in Winnipeg Canada .....Winterpeg also has the highest percentage of Philippine born people than anywhere in Canada. Although an officially bilingual French English province you are twice as likely to meet a native Tagalog (5% of the population) speaker as a native French speaker (2. 5%).
The malls in the Maples area (always popular with recent immigrants) can make you think you are at a SM Mall in Manila sometimes.
I meet this wonderful 19 year old non-bargirl. Madly in love with her. Was going to marry her until I found out she is #6 of 13 children and both parents are alive!
$200 x 13 = $2600 monthly. LOL.
Currently looking for a girl friend who grew up in an orphanage.
GoodEnough
08-02-19, 03:22
I meet this wonderful 19 year old non-bargirl. Madly in love with her. Was going to marry her until I found out she is #6 of 13 children and both parents are alive!
$200 x 13 = $2600 monthly. LOL.
Currently looking for a girl friend who grew up in an orphanage.I would advise you not to make the automatic assumption that she would expect you to provide support for her entire family. It surely hasn't been true in my case, nor has that been true in the case of many of my expat friends here.
GE.
I would advise you not to make the automatic assumption that she would expect you to provide support for her entire family. It surely hasn't been true in my case, nor has that been true in the case of many of my expat friends here.
GE.Thanks GE. I was half joking. I did meet a wonderful 19 yo. I wasn't going to get married. But she did express that her family was very important to her. Her family is back in the province and her father fishes for a living. When I gave her an allowance (2 k) she didn't buy anything for herself. I asked what she did with the money and she said she sent it to her family. Later on she said her family was very important to her.
I know of other pinays who send half of their monthly salaries home, leaving them 4-6 k a month to live on. They all say the same thing "I love my family". This the culture for some. I am saying to be aware of it and to deal with it. I am not against it myself but it would have to a manageable amount.
Of course as GE has stated not all are like this.
Wicked Roger
08-02-19, 11:26
Thanks GE. I was half joking. I did meet a wonderful 19 yo. I wasn't going to get married. But she did express that her family was very important to her. Her family is back in the province and her father fishes for a living. When I gave her an allowance (2 k) she didn't buy anything for herself. I asked what she did with the money and she said she sent it to her family. Later on she said her family was very important to her.
I know of other pinays who send half of their monthly salaries home, leaving them 4-6 k a month to live on. They all say the same thing "I love my family". This the culture for some. I am saying to be aware of it and to deal with it. I am not against it myself but it would have to a manageable amount.
Of course as GE has stated not all are like this.As we both know it does and does not happen. I know instances of both and when the family become important that means trouble at times as the western expat cannot / will not / does not understand this.
I know a pinay in the UAE who earn PHP35 k yet are always in debt as the family are so greedy and no other member of the family works. Another in Cebu where her family spend PHP40 k a month on average and she was doing tricks to get money for her food because 'the family is first and I must support them'.
For many it is the DNA or been brainwashed into them from birth.
Other as GE said are more capable of understanding everything and if they do support the family the expat has no clue (and some don't care or insist when marry they won't ever help).
We are all different flavours etc so depends on who the girl is etc.
I meet this wonderful 19 year old non-bargirl. Madly in love with her. Was going to marry her until I found out she is #6 of 13 children and both parents are alive!
$200 x 13 = $2600 monthly. LOL.
Currently looking for a girl friend who grew up in an orphanage.With no social safety net to speak of Philippine people have plenty of children as a old age insurance hoping they all work and contribute to family finances. What happens is out of 13 or so only few of them get employment while some become lazy and stay with the family with no appreciable contribution monetarily. Not unusual to have a family of 20 living together. So pressure is on with those who found gainful employment. Family bonds are so strong that even if family do not pressure for support all child with jobs send what they can to their family. Some families put guilt trip on the children.
All the girls I met except a small percentage send money home. That small percentage are the ones whose family has enough money, Farm, property etc for support and spent money on her education.
Sometimes extended family of aunts and uncles take children under their wings.
I have no first hand experience regarding what happens after marriage because I never married from there. But talking to some of my girls who I dated and who got married westerners say they do send money to support their family. Ofcourse there are frictions with their spouses who fail to understand this because they grew up in a culture where once the child grows up they are on their own and the family does not expect anything except Christmas gifts. How the husband handles it is anyone's guess.
How the husband handles it is anyone's guess.There are two common paths:
Firstly, hubby monitors and questions every cent spent from joint accounts, often getting frustrated by money being sent back home.
Alternately, wifey receives a household budget to spend as she sees fit including spending money. If the utilities are disconnected or there is no food in the house then the SHTF. Otherwise, who cares if she spent any money left over on new shoes, a manicure or a new motorbike for her brother? Regardless of where the money went or when it ran out, there is no top up. This is the low stress option for hubby as its amazing how few dying uncles and marvelous business opportunities there are when its her cash being spent.
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
08-02-19, 17:54
Ofcourse there are frictions with their spouses who fail to understand this because they grew up in a culture where once the child grows up they are on their own and the family does not expect anything except Christmas gifts.About 13 years back I dated a Samoan (not fat!) chick that was a virgin when I met her (but not after!) She was 25 at the time. She had finished nursing school (LPN) but had not taken the test for the state certification. She kept sending money to her family. I did not understand this and kept biatching to her about it. She did not have money for the test, yet keeps sending money to her family. I was like you have to get your own shit together before you can help other people. Skip sending money for once and go pay for the damn test.
I think she was as frustrated about me talking about it as I was about her doing it. But IMO this was a prime example of what holds a lot of people (and even the culture as a whole) in those type cultures (group) back. They can't get out and spread their wings and see what all is out there available to them because they have an anchor known as family attached to them.
In my culture (individualistic) our parents raise us to grow up and go out and take care of ourselves. Our possibilites are endless because we have time to explore and figure out what we want to do with ourselves and only have to worry about feeding the one person.
In the group cultures they are raised to grow up so that they are able to work and take care of the parents and other family members. They can't dick around and experiment like us because they are expected to have food on their families' table by 5 pm.
Mr Enternational
08-02-19, 17:58
There are two common paths:
Firstly, hubby monitors and questions every cent spent from joint accounts, often getting frustrated by money being sent back home.
Alternately, wifey receives a household budget to spend as she sees fit including spending money. If the utilities are disconnected or there is no food in the house then the SHTF. Otherwise, who cares if she spent any money left over on new shoes, a manicure or a new motorbike for her brother? Regardless of where the money went or when it ran out, there is no top up. This is the low stress option for hubby as its amazing how few dying uncles and marvelous business opportunities there are when its her cash being spent.There are some good hearted guys out there. If I had a wifey, first of all she is going to work to pay some of these bills. Then whatever is left over from that, she is welcomed to do with as she pleases. Receives a household budget my ass! I take on assets, not liabilities. Biatch is not about to sit around and be comfortable off of me busting my ass and breaking my back.
That is why it would never work me trying to send a chick money. I get paid by the hour. So for me to send you money means I have to take my ass up here on my free time and work a few extra hours. Shit just is never going to happen. My brain will not allow me to go work in order to freely give out money to someone else like that.
Nurse that I mess with in Colombia had surgery on her hand the other day. She said she went to the pharmacy and only had enough money for one of the medicines and asked me if I could send her money. Uhh no. If I was planning some type of surgery I would have made sure to have enough money for the surgery AND the medicine first. That is like going to buy a new car then realizing you don't have money to put gas in the mf. Some shit you have to hold off on until you are financially ready.
Tangent: Women spend their money on the things they want, then come ask you for money for the things they need. Same chick lives in Bogota and went on a trip for the weekend with her family to Medellin. When she got back she asked me for money for a bill that had to be paid. I said no. You just got back from Medellin. You should have been working those days instead of going off having a good time. She said her dad paid for everything. I said well you should have told him that you could not go and asked to use your share of the expense to cover that bill you need to pay.
Wingman was buying his condo in Thailand. He ran into his real estate agent out and about who bragged about the wonderful vacation she just came back from in Bali. The next week she hit him up asking to borrow money for some bills she needed to pay. Women are fucking idiots, but why not if many guys are going to fall for it.
PedroMorales
08-02-19, 19:17
Most Pinays folk here come in contact with are the bottom end. Some of the ones I have bonked live in horrible conditions: charcoal cooking and so. They barely get by and their extended families take care of their brats as they spread their legs for trike drivers and foreigners they despise. One only has to see the amount of transfer money places in Pampanga to see why there are there. Having no worthwhile education and living in a country where work is scarce and badly paid, they try to get by in a way they don't really like. The main thing these women want to do is sleep and eat. I have had women who have slept like Rip van Winkle. If you look at some of the clothes women on the pics page, they look exhausted and in need of a scrub down to get rid of their hooker beauty paint.
All of these women are damaged goods, every last one of them. Here is a story about one of their sisters in England one of our esteemed colleagues might have written a report on: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7314711/Prostitute-23-murdered-two-toddler-daughters-sold-clothes.html She murdered her two kids because she wanted more sausage meat in her. Don't build altars to these women.
Soapy Smith
08-04-19, 01:36
She had finished nursing school (LPN) but had not taken the test for the state certification. She kept sending money to her family. I did not understand this and kept biatching to her about it. She did not have money for the test, yet keeps sending money to her family. I was like you have to get your own shit together before you can help other people. Skip sending money for once and go pay for the damn test.
I think she was as frustrated about me talking about it as I was about her doing it. Maybe sending money home was actually justifying a fear of taking the exam. Many people fail to complete licensing exams or degree programs because they fear failing the exam and the humiliation they will experience if they fail. Others fail to finish because they fear the responsibilities they will acquire when they assume the mantle of the new profession. Fears of various kinds cause people to do things that look entirely illogical to onlookers.
Maybe she was frustrated with you for disrupting her illogical rationalization--and digging at her underlying fear.
GoodEnough
08-04-19, 01:49
Maybe sending money home was actually justifying a fear of taking the exam. Many people fail to complete licensing exams or degree programs because they fear failing the exam and the humiliation they will experience if they fail. Others fail to finish because they fear the responsibilities they will acquire when they assume the mantle of the new profession. Fears of various kinds cause people to do things that look entirely illogical to onlookers.
Maybe she was frustrated with you for disrupting her illogical rationalization--and digging at her underlying fear.An excellent point. Remember too that professional exams here are often used as a means of limiting access to a profession, so it's not at all unusual to see more failing than passing. I was speaking with a good Filipino friend, who is a practicing surgeon, about this very subject a couple of days ago.
GE.
Soapy Smith
08-04-19, 01:57
Nurse that I mess with in Colombia had surgery on her hand the other day. She said she went to the pharmacy and only had enough money for one of the medicines and asked me if I could send her money. Uhh no. If I was planning some type of surgery I would have made sure to have enough money for the surgery AND the medicine first. That is like going to buy a new car then realizing you don't have money to put gas in the mf. Some shit you have to hold off on until you are financially ready. Not all surgeries are elective. Carpal tunnel syndrome, for example, can be very painful and absolutely debilitating for people in many kinds of work. There are options to buying a car, like taking public transportation or ride-sharing. I don't think this analogy holds up very well.
In addition, your argument here seems almost opposite what you argue about the LPN in your previous post. In that example you wanted her to take the exam to get on with her life. In this story, depending on the severity of the circumstances that led her to the surgery, isn't it likely she was doing what she needed to do to get on with her life? Increasingly we hear stories in the states of people dying because they went without necessary medications in order to put food on the table. Stories like that would never make the news in Colombia or the Philippines because they're so commonplace. Makes for an interesting comparison to the practices of "world class" medicine in the United States.
Soapy Smith
08-04-19, 02:33
I would advise you not to make the automatic assumption that she would expect you to provide support for her entire family. It surely hasn't been true in my case, nor has that been true in the case of many of my expat friends here. GE.It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.
Tangent: Women spend their money on the things they want, then come ask you for money for the things they need.Truest thing I have ever read about Asian girls.
Engine Driver
08-04-19, 03:10
It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.RK and GE mix in professional circles and come across well educated, highly westernised Filipinos. A good indicator on whether a girl can adapt to Western life is to see to what level her parents have been educated up to. If both parents speak fluent English and hold at least a bachelors degree, there is a good chance the girl will also be educated and will have a natural intellectual curiosity. That is, her conversation skills won't be limited to just talking about food and K-drama and she will see and appreciate the bigger picture.
The majority of mongers (me included) on this board won't have the opportunity to meet with the professional set, so their perception of people in this country will generally be low. The girls they deal with are usually pea-brained nincompoops who are tied to their families back in the provinces. Generally we don't care as long as they have big tits (D-Cups), their pussies don't smell (Sammon), they don't ask for money (Mr E.) and they are kind and affectionate (DG).
GoodEnough
08-04-19, 05:54
It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.Yes, you're correct, and your conclusions are accurate. What's not mentioned however, or at least not typically mentioned on these pages, is the relative ease of meeting reasonably well-educated, bright, middle class women. I have been asked, as has, I'm sure RK, by many women in the latter class, whether I know of any "nice" Westerners to whom I might be able to introduce them. Leaving the subsistence-fed bargirl culture and aiming higher is not difficult for those who may choose to do so.
I have no problem with "point and click" encounters, and have enjoyed more than my fair share of them over the decades. My suggestion pertains only to those who are looking for a bit more than casual sex and who might value decent companionship and conversation in addition to sex.
GE.
You are all correct. I am looking for causal encounters with inexperienced 19-21 year olds. I love to open them up to a sexual awakening. Not that I am a great lover. Just the fact that they haven't been with a few others than a few slam bam quickie Filipino boys makes me a great lover, at the moment.
Most girls are real shy and I love it when they can't control it any longer and start breathing heavily and with soft moans along with bitting their lip.
Mr Enternational
08-04-19, 07:15
What's not mentioned however, or at least not typically mentioned on these pages, is the relative ease of meeting reasonably well-educated, bright, middle class women. My suggestion pertains only to those who are looking for a bit more than casual sex and who might value decent companionship and conversation in addition to sex.Exactly. My chick that is a university dean, I met on Tinder. Her oldest sister has her own OB/GYN practice. Her brother is in law school. Her other sister works at the UN in New York.
Soapy Smith
08-04-19, 08:49
Exactly. My chick that is a university dean, I met on Tinder. Her oldest sister has her own OB/GYN practice. Her brother is in law school. Her other sister works at the UN in New York.My squeeze's cousin is President of a provincial university in Bicol and claims two of her sisters were very close to Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Douchewitz, and Prince Andrew when they (the girls) were in their teens. Is that sort of the same thing?
RK and GE mix in professional circles and come across well educated, highly westernised Filipinos. A good indicator on whether a girl can adapt to Western life is to see to what level her parents have been educated up to. If both parents speak fluent English and hold at least a bachelors degree, there is a good chance the girl will also be educated and will have a natural intellectual curiosity. That is, her conversation skills won't be limited to just talking about food and K-drama and she will see and appreciate the bigger picture.
The majority of mongers (me included) on this board won't have the opportunity to meet with the professional set, so their perception of people in this country will generally be low. The girls they deal with are usually pea-brained nincompoops who are tied to their families back in the provinces. Generally we don't care as long as they have big tits (D-Cups), their pussies don't smell (Sammon), they don't ask for money (Mr E.) and they are kind and affectionate (DG).LOL! I have met dated educated Pinays, too. Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.
Soapy Smith
08-04-19, 20:40
LOL! I have met dated educated Pinays, too. Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.Some of our well-informed expats have suggested that there's a lot of variation in the quality of universities in the Philippines, but to some extent there is variability in the quality of programs in the states as well. I believe many schools in the Philippines do not have accreditation for their programs, but there's evidence that some programs in the states, especially for-profit online programs, are similarly unlikely to be nationally accredited. With some of those programs there's a question whether their principal goal is education or profit. For example, I read recently that the graduation rate for the University of Phoenix, a for-profit online university, is 15%. Yet the university apparently continues to thrive.
Three years? Given the considerable variation in quality in both countries, I'm wondering what evidence would support that sort of precise claim. Given your professional background, I'm guessing you might have access to that kind of evidence. Please share what you know.
In preparation for the post that's going to arrive soon that claims this discussion is irrelevant to a forum about fucking Filipinas, let me suggest that it is a useful dialogue about the nature of the pool of Filipinas who are available to fuck.
Engine Driver
08-05-19, 04:54
My squeeze's cousin is President of a provincial university in Bicol and claims two of her sisters were very close to Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Douchewitz, and Prince Andrew when they (the girls) were in their teens. Is that sort of the same thing?Sorry I can't compete. The last chick I fucked in the Philippines was a poorly educated prostitute originally from Samar. She was one of six kids in her family. Her aim in life was to earn enough money from opening her legs to own a sari sari store back in her province. Her sister was a not a college dean and her brother was not a UN bureaucrat, but she was clever enough to know that her relatives would buy rice on credit, never having to pay her back and thus would send her broke. I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.
I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.It's amazing how the girls put their intelligence to work in different areas.
I remember being in a Pattaya with a girl working well above her pay grade at a game of Connect 4 yet she could tell you where every vessel in the South Fleet was, their crew compliment and when they were returning for shore leave.
Remembering names is another area that they seem to excel.
Enjoy. G.
This is what happens when you say goodbye to a Filipina.
Soapy Smith
08-05-19, 08:16
Sorry I can't compete. The last chick I fucked in the Philippines was a poorly educated prostitute originally from Samar. She was one of six kids in her family. Her aim in life was to earn enough money from opening her legs to own a sari sari store back in her province. Her sister was a not a college dean and her brother was not a UN bureaucrat, but she was clever enough to know that her relatives would buy rice on credit, never having to pay her back and thus would send her broke. I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.No need to compete. Your story is probably the prevailing pattern, and what a great experience it is when they turn out to be a good root. Your story has a solid ring of truth; mine was, I am sorry to say, a total fabrication: a response to the story of another forum member who often posts stories from the loftiest of social circles in the Philippines, Thailand, and Latin America.
But, BTW, Jeffrey Epstein is a guy recently incarcerated for fucking and trafficking dozens of under-age girls. The Miami Herald recently ran an extensive investigative series on him, having drawn some of their information from women who had been trafficked during their teen years. Some of the women also allege having been with such upstanding men as Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. My squeeze, her sisters, and her cousin probably have no idea who Epstein, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew are. But I do like your story.
Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.
Three years? Given the considerable variation in quality in both countries, I'm wondering what evidence would support that sort of precise claim. Given your professional background, I'm guessing you might have access to that kind of evidence. Please share what you know.At DCups. With all due respect, I note you used "probably" twice in your sentence reproduced above but, like Soapy, I'd like to know how you arrived at that. I would certainly challenge that rather "supremacist" statement about US institutions as compared to Philippines higher education institutions (HEIs).
In my other life as an employer of graduates from various international institutions I can definitely say that the best graduates from many Philippines HEIs are at least equivalent to and often way more competent than other graduates from elsewhere. Three years is definitely a major overreach.
The bottom of the class in the USA, Australia and Philippines would be bottom of the class in any country, and unfortunately, most ST mongers use these poor lost souls as their benchmark because they frequently outnumber the so-called smarter ones in bars and on-line forums (I am using the word "smarter" here as defined by academic success).
This is MHO of course.
Engine Driver
08-05-19, 12:37
In my other life as an employer of graduates from various international institutions I can definitely say that the best graduates from many Philippines HEIs are at least equivalent to and often way more competent than other graduates from elsewhere. Three years is definitely a major overreach.
RK, you've been telling us for a while now just how brilliant graduates from Philippines HEIs are. That being the case, why are they so under represented in senior management ranks of top companies in the US, Canada and Australia? There's two million of them in the States and nearly one million in Canada, yet, none rise to the top in corporate? Don't you think that says something about the quality of their education or their own intelligence and competency?
The ones I've seen in Australia are just junior management accountants, mid-level civil design engineers or just average IT dudes. None of them have any drive or motivation. It seems like they exhausted their quota of motivation and energy just by getting to Australia and now have no desire to go beyond that. All have degrees and qualifications a mile long from reputable universities in the Philippines I've never heard of.
I compare that with Indian graduates abroad. Many of them seem to rise quite quickly to the top of Fortune 500's, like Nadella, Pichai, Nooyi, Jain, Banga, Narayen et al.
I'm with D-Cups on this, but I will say their education standard is 5 years beyond their western counterparts. They never seem to lose that childish behaviour either, no matter how old they get. Their drive for success and propensity for hard work declines rapidly once they reach a mediocre level.
Engine Driver
08-05-19, 12:52
But, BTW, Jeffrey Epstein is a guy recently incarcerated for fucking and trafficking dozens of under-age girls. The Miami Herald recently ran an extensive investigative series on him, having drawn some of their information from women who had been trafficked during their teen years. Some of the women also allege having been with such upstanding men as Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. My squeeze, her sisters, and her cousin probably have no idea who Epstein, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew are. But I do like your story.LOL. The Clintons nearly added Epstein to their body count last week. What's the bet that he won't make it to the trial? Trump banned him from Mar o Lago 12 years ago.
LOL. The Clintons nearly added Epstein to their body count last week. What's the bet that he won't make it to the trial? Trump banned him from Mar o Lago 12 years ago.Trump and Epstein were best buddies for 15 years. Well it is no secret regarding the actions of Trump and girls, it is time for Cohen to spill the beans on the hush money paid to them.
Hi Red and SS,
Educated guess. I have friends in the medical profession. Most MDs and RNs from PI could not practice in USA because they could not pass their respective boards in the USA. (Can they in Australia? Do share). I assume lawyers, too, although as many variations as there are states. So, by extension, most fields. I am not saying USA is internationally supreme. Far from it. The entire field of education is changing and not for the better IMPO. However, there are still many fine educational institutions in Europe and I assume all over the world but the college grads including professors I've talked to and personally known from PI do not impress me intellectually. When is the last time the Filipinos have invented anything? The infrastructure in PI is deplorable. Nevertheless, the Filipinos are among the sweetest and most caring, family-oriented, hardest working, genuinely nicest people I have ever met but frankly not known for intelligence. Check the studies that compare international IQ differences for empirical evidence. Street smarts are obviously something different altogether. Cheers.
Soapy Smith
08-05-19, 21:55
I can't speak to the issue of Filipinos as leaders in other countries' corporations. But I can provide anecdotal evidence from a large Philippine NGO named Gawad Kalinga that provides housing for resettling people out of slum areas. Their long-time "charismatic" leader was a man named Tony Meloto, who came from an impoverished background, attended Ateneo de Manila on scholarship, and eventually became director of marketing for Proctor and Gamble in the Philippines. He joined a Catholic group attempting to rehabilitate youth in a poor and violent slum in North Caloocan. He and others eventually dedicated themselves to building affordable housing for landless Filipinos, creating livelihood training, and locating both the housing and training near areas of potential employment. He initially convinced Proctor and Gamble to underwrite some of this work, but later traveled extensively to North America and Western Europe to raise money. A typical fundraising model was to contact expat Filipinos who could set up meetings with executives of their employing companies, and attempt to get the companies and their employees to donate to Gawad Kalinga's cause. It apparently worked. I can't name any of the individual Filipino expats involved in the fundraising, but in my experience executives rarely feel beholden to middle managers and below. I would surmise that the Filipino expats who helped arrange these meetings were typically well enough placed in these organizations to get the ear of their executives and convince them to participate in these fundraising activities.
When I have visited Philippine universities I have found that their resources--libraries, laboratories, physical facilities, and so on--do not stack up well in comparison to institutions in the states and other Western settings. I have noticed barren shelves in the libraries on the UP Diliman campus. At the same time, the shelves are full of bachelor's degree theses, 100 plus page documents on various topics. Theses written at the undergraduate level in the states are quite uncommon, and especially theses of 100 pages or more.
One area in which scholars in the Philippines and other developing countries offer unique work is in the area of development. Folks in the Global South have sometimes solved difficult problems out of necessity, whereas these topics in the Global North continue to be swept under the proverbial carpet. But these scholars may often not get recognition for their ideas because they haven't mastered the game of publishing dominated by Western universities. In addition, because Westerners dominate academic publishing, scholars in developing countries like the Philippines are left having to position their work relative to theories and research created in the West. So these cultural and publishing disadvantages hinder the advancement of Philippine scholarship generally, yet bright individual Filipinos do make it through despite the cultural and resource disadvantages.
I live in a city of about 250,000, with 70,000 students spread across two universities and a community college. The local Fil-Am association is dominated by well-educated Filipinos: doctors, professors, engineers, accountants, nurses, and teachers. Fil-Am lawyers are rare, since the legal precedents learned in the Philippines hold little relevance in the states. I know of nearly a dozen Fil-Am professors in the two universities. One friend here attended Philippine Normal University to become a high school science teacher. He got a scholarship to Stanford, where he completed a master's degree and a doctorate in physics. He is now a top-notch scientist in the field of electro-magnets. Another attended UP Diliman for his bachelor's, then grad school in the states, and he's now in a distinguished chair in the College of Business. A woman I know did her bachelor's at UP Los Banos, then grad school at Wisconsin, and she's now a well-regarded professor in a school of information. A friend in the Phils did a bachelor's in political science at UP Diliman, a master of public policy in Japan, and a doctorate in public administration at Florida State. I've been told he was top of his class at FSU, despite having entrance exam scores near the bottom of his incoming class. He's now a professor at UP Diliman.
When in Manila in May I had nasty bouts with pink eye, and a few days later, pneumonia. Both times I walked into a mall clinic at SM Manila. I dealt with an ophthalmologist, two general practitioners, an x-ray technician, and several nurses. They diagnosed the issues quickly and prescribed medicines that nailed both ailments. These were well-trained professionals.
Granted, these cases are anecdotal, and they may be explained by individual excellence rather than institutional quality. But I hold out optimism for Philippine education. In May I attended commencement for one of Arellano's Manila area high schools. The commencement was punctuated with a number of individual awards for projects that some of the top students had completed. I was impressed with the quality of ideas they were working with. I interact occasionally with college students in universities in Manila and in the provinces. Especially in the provinces, the facilities are no great shakes, but the students are enthusiastic and capable of critical thinking. They ask good questions and provide good real-world examples.
I think the differences between Philippine universities and Western counterparts almost defy measurement. What would we measure: lifetime earnings of graduates, scores on Graduate Record Exams, grade point average achieved when they enter school in another country? Or, how about critical thinking skills and creativity? I have also been around a number of East Asian students. They are well known for their high test scores, arguably because they have been trained to find right answers for tractable problems. But when you put them in American classrooms, they can't think outside the box, they can't think critically. As a result, their societies are great at imitation but seemingly incapable of innovation. I have met numerous Filipinos who can think critically and creatively. My squeeze's cousin (this story is true, LOL) lived in hand-to-mouth subsistence in Southern Leyte Province. His father and brothers had long been tenant farmers harvesting rice and coconuts on mountainside land owned by a wealthy Chinese-Filipina matriarch. The matriarch left much of her land to her tenants, and this one figured out a way to dam up a mountain stream on land he inherited, got some Tilapia fry from a government program, and, three years later, he's a successful Tilapia farmer.
It may be true that Filipinos are not known for inventions, but perhaps that's because they lack the resources and laboratories that usually are prerequisites for profitable inventions. Filipinos often are quite creative and innovative, however. About a year ago I met with a dozen small community-based organizations from mostly poor neighborhoods in Metro Manila. With only a couple exceptions, these were organizations created by women. One was started by the wife of a prisoner at New Bilibid prison. She gathered together other wives of prisoners and started a set of social programs to place their sons in work internships and counseling programs to preclude the boys from falling into the criminal activities their fathers had engaged in. Another group in a slum area of Caloocan gathered together the home-bound wives of husbands who were Overseas Foreign Workers. They created a set of workshops to teach the women home-based crafts from which they could earn money to supplement what their husbands sent home. All 12 of these programs were created whole cloth by people who had no tangible resources to begin with. These are not inventions, per se, but they certainly are innovative.
I agree with DC's allusion to the decline in American higher education, although it's possible we're concerned with different faces of the problem. But given the fluid state of change in these institutions, presumably both in the West and in the Philippines, it strikes me as irrelevant to make numeric comparisons that put one set of institutions three or five years ahead of the other. It seems more important to try to understand the dynamics of change rather than some unknowable numeric static comparison.
It is probably true that most of the women whose vaginas are being plugged by Western sex tourists are from less-well educated and poor backgrounds. But Filipinas drop out of school for many reasons that are unrelated to intelligence: can't afford the required shoes, uniforms, public transportation and required notebooks, pencils and other class materials; and / or the child is needed at home to help with some family street-side vending business. So some of what we see as dumb activity from these women may be ignorance rather than stupidity. It's hard to know about or take interest in things you've never been exposed to, and wealth and power dynamics in the Philippines typically underlie most of the vast disparities in educational attainment.
Soapy Smith
08-05-19, 22:22
LOL. The Clintons nearly added Epstein to their body count last week. Isn't it the other way around? Bill is alleged to have ridden for free in Epstein's personal jet. I think Bill likes ugly women in their 20's and 30's.
Anecdotally I did a cute, busty Cebuana a few times about five years ago (WR knows her) who was an industrial engineering major (a senior at that time and graduated now for sure). I asked to read one of her papers (assignment) which her professor graded an A. It was pretty good albeit handwritten (but legible). Grammatically correct, flowed well, a little interesting. I would probably downgrade to a Bee because it lacked recent references and did not contain any imagination or critical thinking E. G, counterpoints. Then again I am a tough grader. A miniature sample to be sure. I do hope she is gainfully employed in her field of study. I give her an A for fucking because she was Awesome in that area. Cheers.
Anecdotally I did a cute, busty Cebuana a few times about five years ago (WR knows her) who was an industrial engineering major (a senior at that time and graduated now for sure). I asked to read one of her papers (assignment) which her professor graded an A. It was pretty good albeit handwritten (but legible). Grammatically correct, flowed well, a little interesting. I would probably downgrade to a Bee because it lacked recent references and did not contain any imagination or critical thinking E. G, counterpoints. Then again I am a tough grader. A miniature sample to be sure. I do hope she is gainfully employed in her field of study. I give her an A for fucking because she was Awesome in that area. Cheers.I am sure you graded her melons a A+.
I am currently in a province town. First night I had a 19 yo sweetie come greet me. At 4 am she got on a 3 hour van ride to wait for me. I arrived 2 hours later than her. She has one of those small firm bodies with be cups. What a night and morning with her! Gave her 6 k to help her mother towards finishing a room add on.
Meanwhile one of my old flames is in the hospital and required life saving surgery. Hospital and surgeon cost is in the neighborhood of 150 k. I will probably end up contributing more than 2/3 the cost. I was amazed at the quality of the surgeon in the small hospital. Filipinos die for the lack of a few hundred dollars for medical or medicine. More than happy to contribute. This way I know my funds got to there undiluted.
Welcome to the Philippines. Such a rewarding adventure.
I am sure you graded her melons a A+.Yeah buddy solid C cup on a tiny frame. She loved to be on top and I loved her tits bouncing on me. Wicked Roger, if you are reading this and remember her (appendix scar) and have contact details or current whereabouts I would be mightily obliged. I'll search my notes for her name. Cheers.
The ones I've seen in Australia are just junior management accountants, mid-level civil design engineers or just average IT dudes. None of them have any drive or motivation. It seems like they exhausted their quota of motivation and energy just by getting to Australia and now have no desire to go beyond that. All have degrees and qualifications a mile long from reputable universities in the Philippines I've never heard of.You assume they have degree from reputable unis but they may not have. They could have fake ones. I know this because when I worked and lived in Singapore we closed part of our Manila office and loved a staff member to Singapore. Problem was, when immigration checked her degree to get her work permit they found it was fake. She had bought it from a market. Our internal HR people in both Manila and Singapore couldn't tell it wasn't real.
Not sure I agree with your comments about Indian graduates (engineering). I spent a bit of time there and found they were pretty lazy and generally very average. They were ok if you gave them something to solve that was a textbook problem but given them something that required first principle understanding of the work they just couldn't do it. Sure there are lots of Indian high up in companies around the would but how many actually graduated from Indian uni's. I've seen the cheating scandals in India that have been going on for so many years that now I wouldn't even look at their CV's, I'd just assume they cheated. Harsh but with other options why take the chance.
I assume lawyers, too, although as many variations as there are states. Law is completely different as it is restricted by the states. For instance, to even sit the NY bar examine you must have completed you degree in NY. Other states do not have this restriction.
Wicked Roger
08-06-19, 09:09
She loved to be on top and I loved her tits bouncing on me. Wicked Roger, if you are reading this and remember her (appendix scar) and have contact details or current whereabouts I would be mightily obliged. I'll search my notes for her name. Cheers.Hi D,
I do remember her was very nice in the sack. I did a threesome with her while another good friend (who sponsored her through school) watched as he was in Singapore then. Was fun times. The scar was caused by a bad surgeon but she loved to party.
I have her details and will PM but she is married to a Korean or Japanese but may still be seeking some short term help for bills.
Engine Driver
08-06-19, 12:36
You assume they have degree from reputable unis but they may not have. They could have fake ones. I know this because when I worked and lived in Singapore we closed part of our Manila office and loved a staff member to Singapore. Problem was, when immigration checked her degree to get her work permit they found it was fake. She had bought it from a market. Our internal HR people in both Manila and Singapore couldn't tell it wasn't real.
Not sure I agree with your comments about Indian graduates (engineering). I spent a bit of time there and found they were pretty lazy and generally very average. They were ok if you gave them something to solve that was a textbook problem but given them something that required first principle understanding of the work they just couldn't do it. Sure there are lots of Indian high up in companies around the would but how many actually graduated from Indian uni's. I've seen the cheating scandals in India that have been going on for so many years that now I wouldn't even look at their CV's, I'd just assume they cheated. Harsh but with other options why take the chance.Yes, you raise some very valid and correct points. Australia outsources the verification of qualifications (for visa issuing purposes) to third parties, so the system is completely corrupt. There have been scandals from within the Australian high commissions in India and and Pakistan where locally employed staff have been accepting huge bribes. Heads have rolled, but the problem can never be fixed in those countries. I would assume that is the normal culture and practise also in the Australian embassies in Manila and Jakarta. Cheating is a normal way of life in most Asian countries, so your assumption that most cheated in gaining their qualifications is correct.
I mentioned those Indian born CEOs of US corporations to contrast the lack of Philippine born CEOs in the US. There must be a reason. The size of the diaspora is similar.
Most of the success stories of Indians doing well in the US have their origins in the immigrant receiving higher education from a top tier US college. To afford the tuition fees and to gain entry to those elite colleges, they would have come from wealthy middle class families who were somewhat westernised back home. Cultural integration in the US then becomes easy. I have also seen how lazy new Indian arrivals are in Australia, particularly those from lower class or lower middle class families. Once again, their attitude is that they have made it just by migrating and therefore no further effort is needed. I personally would not employ any of them.
Most MDs and RNs from PI could not practice in USA because they could not pass their respective boards in the USA. In the USA I dated a Pinay Emergency Medicine MD for several years. She graduated medical school in the Philippines and did her residency at Hopkins in Baltimore. Practiced for many years in USA hospitals in ER and she is very sharp. Only returns to Phili to visit family, In the Philippines I have dated long term a dentist. Also very sharp girl. Cute as hell too. Putting braces on girls that don't need them is her specialty.
FT.
Hi Soapy,
Good points. You have obviously put a lot of thought into this lengthy post and it is good to hear there are many exceptions to my admittedly biased claim. I hope to find such an educated, intelligent (and busty) Pinay when I retire in PI in three short years. This old dog might even marry her if she'll take me. I am not rich but comfortable, easy on the eyes for an old fart, and generally fun to have around. An aging rocker if you will. Cheers, buddy.
Soapy Smith
08-06-19, 14:29
They never seem to lose that childish behaviour either, no matter how old they get. Their drive for success and propensity for hard work declines rapidly once they reach a mediocre level.I wonder if they live longer. Maybe they know something we don't.
Soapy Smith
08-06-19, 17:07
I mentioned those Indian born CEOs of US corporations to contrast the lack of Philippine born CEOs in the US. There must be a reason. The size of the diaspora is similar.There's a recent argument presented by an Asian-American who notes that Asian students get into top universities, such as Ivy League schools, via high test scores. Domestic students, on the other hand, get admitted on the basis of diverse records in student activities and leadership in addition to above average test scores. The Asians then perform better in the classroom, but domestic students succeed at much higher levels in the corporate world. This guy argues that domestic students get ahead on their confidence and arrogance, whereas the Asian students fall behind in the workplace because they've been socialized to collectivist values instead of standing out. A Chinese woman, taller than average, once told me how she often got in trouble as a child for being too outspoken. Her uncle took her aside and lectured her that, "when you're among chickens, you shouldn't look like a crane."
I'm not sure whether this dynamic applies to Filipinos, but I do think they are on average less arrogant and concerned with standing out than are young Americans. Filipino males have a penchant for machismo, but the culture is predominantly matriarchal. Men stand out in government and business, but women hold things together in everyday society. Women teach and enforce values and behavior on the children, and I would guess they teach a softer, less arrogant presentation of self than in Western countries. Many people do get ahead in the business world on arrogance.
PedroMorales
08-06-19, 20:59
I'm not sure whether this dynamic applies to Filipinos, but I do think they are on average less arrogant and concerned with standing out than are young Americans..I have had this confirmed to me by top shelf employers. Americans will take risks and go for it Asians not so, slow and steady and too careful at times.
. This guy argues that domestic students get ahead on their confidence and arrogance, whereas the Asian students fall behind in the workplace because they've been socialized to collectivist values instead of standing out.An interesting arguement, which I tend to agree with. I've certainly seen a lot less 'dog eat dog' in the upper echelons of business in the east than in the west.
I've heard the same said about why men rise to the top of female dominated occupations like Chefs, Hair and Beauty etc.
Cheers. G.
GoodEnough
08-07-19, 01:21
I'm not sure whether this dynamic applies to Filipinos, but I do think they are on average less arrogant and concerned with standing out than are young Americans. Filipino males have a penchant for machismo, but the culture is predominantly matriarchal. Men stand out in government and business, but women hold things together in everyday society. Women teach and enforce values and behavior on the children, and I would guess they teach a softer, less arrogant presentation of self than in Western countries. Many people do get ahead in the business world on arrogance.The tacit dynamic of classrooms throughout the country—or at least the hundreds of classrooms that I've observed—is total conformity, and total obeisance to the teacher even if she / he is presenting incorrect information. So there's zero encouragement here for independent thought and in fact the latter is penalized. One possible correlate of this set of behaviors is the self-observed failure of the local education system to teach inferential reasoning skills.
GE.
The tacit dynamic of classrooms throughout the countryor at least the hundreds of classrooms that I've observedis total conformity, and total obeisance to the teacher even if she / he is presenting incorrect information. So there's zero encouragement here for independent thought and in fact the latter is penalized. One possible correlate of this set of behaviors is the self-observed failure of the local education system to teach inferential reasoning skills.I would agree with that and it ties in with my comment about India (but this pretty much applies to all Asia), where students can solve problems out of text books but the first priciples and lateral thinking skills are not there.
I'm in China on business and I've suggested changes to a design to something they hadn't done before, only to be told they didn't know how to do it. These guy are professional engineers it one of the biggest design institutes in the country and what I propose isn't exactly difficult and any graduate engineer should be able to work it out. But no, they haven't designed that before so they can't do it.
Soapy Smith
08-07-19, 06:52
One possible correlate of this set of behaviors is the self-observed failure of the local education system to teach inferential reasoning skills. GE.I assume you're referring to an informal reasoning process for using information or data in a local context and attempting to generalize what is observed to a broader set of people, settings, and times. Do you think there's a causal direction to this correlation? Is inferential reasoning not taught because teachers don't know how to--and teach only immediate linear processes because the teachers are unable to think beyond the immediate, or do they fear students will offer inferential conjectures that cause them to lose control of the classroom? Interestingly, I have seen East Asians who know much more than domestic American students about how to operationalize statistical inference, but they're nearly incapable of informal inferential thinking or critical thinking. I'm pretty sure this is what Kerrstar is talking about: great mimics who can't innovate.
Maybe I need to dig back into my old books on Piajet. My daughter recently pointed out to me that his models of children's cognitive development, widely used for over 70 years, were largely based on his observations of his three daughters. Just like Freud's concept of female hysteria was based on his wife's hysterical reactions when she found out he was fucking her sister. Gives a whole new meaning to inferential reasoning skills, although I like Piaget's process better than Freud's. PM me if you're interested; let's not agitate these good forum members. Most of them are interested in female hysteria only if they have to deal with it in Filipina tampo.
Wicked Roger
08-07-19, 14:31
Just like Freud's concept of female hysteria was based on his wife's hysterical reactions when she found out he was fucking her sister. Gives a whole new meaning to inferential reasoning skills,
let's not agitate these good forum members. Most of them are interested in female hysteria only if they have to deal with it in Filipina tampo.Well I can tell from my own observation that when a cutie I was seeing found out I fucked her sister she was supremely hysterical and went totally tonto for a while LOL. Then came back and shagged me 2 days later.
Another was more laid back and joined the next time for a wonderful sisters threesome.
As for the last comment Soapy I would agree (and have experienced my fair share of tampo also although I now ignore it).
Did not read the sections below, but have you tried doing that in the US? You have a loud mouth high school drop out or GED person throwing up their arms at the impossible requests you make. As in doing "your job". I always have interesting conversations Stateside that remind me I do prefer to live in Asia; in spite of all the problems here.
I would agree with that and it ties in with my comment about India (but this pretty much applies to all Asia), where students can solve problems out of text books but the first priciples and lateral thinking skills are not there.
I'm in China on business and I've suggested changes to a design to something they hadn't done before, only to be told they didn't know how to do it. These guy are professional engineers it one of the biggest design institutes in the country and what I propose isn't exactly difficult and any graduate engineer should be able to work it out. But no, they haven't designed that before so they can't do it.
I can say the US is not much better and it depends a lot on the teacher. It doesn't matter what level. The teacher can sink you, even if you are right. In the job market, aggressiveness and ruthlessness and having the right pedigree goes a long way in the US.
Take a look at a movie called "The Young and Prodigious T. S. Spivet" it is pretty funny. I am not sure how accurate the series "Genius" is but one of the scenes I saw while channel surfing was when the main character got recognized for his publications and a representative was sent to the patent office to look for him.
The tacit dynamic of classrooms throughout the countryor at least the hundreds of classrooms that I've observed is total conformity, and total obeisance to the teacher even if she / he is presenting incorrect information. So there's zero encouragement here for independent thought and in fact the latter is penalized. One possible correlate of this set of behaviors is the self-observed failure of the local education system to teach inferential reasoning skills.
GE.Someone else said "Women teach and enforce values and behavior on the children, and I would guess they teach a softer, less arrogant presentation of self than in Western countries. " I can say for a fact that most elementary teachers are women and I have seen many unfair treatment of male students. Equality only applies if the female students are at a disadvantage. On top of that, most of the female students tend to be less active and tend to be much more articulate than the average male student. It is sad to watch (when an articulate and manipulative female student shifts all blame onto a ADHD male student) but it also brings back memories of my own experiences. The trend I see in the US and international schools is a trend to masculinize girls and effeminate boys.
To show how stupid I am and that I am beyond being taught, I have stepped into incidents, as in deep shit, to detail what I observed. The female mother / teacher / person then proceeds to put me in the same dog house.
GoodEnough
08-08-19, 01:47
Maybe I need to dig back into my old books on Piajet. My daughter recently pointed out to me that his models of children's cognitive development, widely used for over 70 years, were largely based on his observations of his three daughters. Just like Freud's concept of female hysteria was based on his wife's hysterical reactions when she found out he was fucking her sister. Gives a whole new meaning to inferential reasoning skills, although I like Piaget's process better than Freud's. PM me if you're interested; let's not agitate these good forum members. Most of them are interested in female hysteria only if they have to deal with it in Filipina tampo.You're correct, and this is an unlikely (and likely inappropriate) forum for discussing various theories of intellectual development, much less Piaget's taxonomy of human intellect. The only point I want to me is that US schools, at least when I attended them, spent a good deal of time teaching students to infer broad theses, concepts, generalizations from sets of discrete facts. Progressing that is, to use terms favored by M. Jean Piaget, from the concrete to the abstract. My experience in local classrooms reinforces my belief that Filipinos are never encouraged to go beyond the concrete. This notion is buttressed by some old research I once read on the performance of Filipinos on the IELTS.
There's no need I think to discuss this further via PM since we know each other, have roughly similar backgrounds, and would likely refer to many of the same sources. Suffice it to say that, from my perspective, the lack of emphasis on what some Educational Psychologists refer to as "divergent thinking," has larger societal implications as well, and gets to what many members of this form seem to be describing when discussing the intellectual limitations of the young women with whom they interact.
I should add that I'm now officially "geriatric," and so it's been many decades since I've attended US public schools. So what I recall from my education may not be congruent with today's reality.
GE.
Chocha Monger
08-08-19, 03:21
It does not matter whether Filipinas are smart or total idiots in the workplace or academia. What matters is that they are very good at fooling mongers into marriage or just fleecing them outright. When it comes to manipulating the average monger via his prick, those LBFMs are absolute geniuses and the Western mongers are the dunces. Many expats end up with their pricks twisted and knotted.
https://philippineslifestyle.com/girlfriend-murder-subic-pregnant/
https://philippineslifestyle.com/texan-murdered-filipina-freezer/
CzarNicholas
08-10-19, 02:33
When forgiveness is unlimited, so are lies, adultery, thievery, and murder. That is their strength and their downfall. Those who hitch their fortunes and futures to such duplicitous creatures seldom fare well.When forgiveness is unlimited, so are lies, adultery, thievery, and murder. That is their strength and their downfall. Those who hitch their fortunes and futures to such duplicitous creatures seldom fare well.
Casual reader, first time poster.
For the past few years I was mixed up with a young pinay. She was pretty good company, actual real university student and committed to keeping my sausage happy.
We called it quits earlier this year. It's amazing how quickly they can accept reality when the money stops flowing. Actually I learned so much when I saw that in action.
Pay money every week for two years and then when it stops that really drives her to picking up casual mongers every weekend. I will be better prepared next time.
On the rebound I was happy with an arrangement I made with a local girl back in my home country. OMG I had forgotten how much fun it was to have a decent conversation.
Well now I'm free again and thinking about the next choice.
A) Another pinay with their lies and screwed up brain but great enthusiasm sex.
B) Another white home girl, more expensive but sensible.
Decisions.
Paul.
Mr Enternational
08-14-19, 15:40
Well now I'm free again and thinking about the next choice.
A) Another pinay with their lies and screwed up brain but great enthusiasm sex.
B) Another white home girl, more expensive but sensible.
Decisions.Not understanding why you can not have both.
Not understanding why you can not have both.That's an excellent question. Well I already have one current wife of long standing so I think one extra is enough. I'm looking for an ongoing arrangement.
Wicked Roger
08-15-19, 00:40
Casual reader, first time poster.
For the past few years I was mixed up with a young pinay. She was pretty good company, actual real university student and committed to keeping my sausage happy.
We called it quits earlier this year. It's amazing how quickly they can accept reality when the money stops flowing. Actually I learned so much when I saw that in action.
Pay money every week for two years and then when it stops that really drives her to picking up casual mongers every weekend. I will be better prepared next time.
On the rebound I was happy with an arrangement I made with a local girl back in my home country. OMG I had forgotten how much fun it was to have a decent conversation.l.The no honey no money rules applies everywhere but I know many with pinay 'girlfriends' this rule is very strictly enforced if not by her by her family (who can be the ones behind the demands) - had this before etc and I was my usual direct and rude self to cut off chatter about for example why I would not send cash to help as her uncle had died and she needed PHP 10 k to help. My reply was her uncles family can do all that. We stopped chatting soon after.
Yes a good conversation is important but is that with a slim 20+ years white girl who calls you 'daddy' or a large assed 50+ woman? For me the pinay wins (but am biased and am used to the 'demands' so deal with harshly at times).
All up to you PP we all are different. As Mr E says try both as same time to decide but be sure you compare apples to apples not apples to large tits LOL.
The no honey no money rules applies everywhere but I know many with pinay 'girlfriends' this rule is very strictly enforced if not by her by her family (who can be the ones behind the demands) - had this before etc and I was my usual direct and rude self to cut off chatter about for example why I would not send cash to help as her uncle had died and she needed PHP 10 k to help. My reply was her uncles family can do all that. We stopped chatting soon after.
Yes a good conversation is important but is that with a slim 20+ years white girl who calls you 'daddy' or a large assed 50+ woman? For me the pinay wins (but am biased and am used to the 'demands' so deal with harshly at times).
All up to you PP we all are different. As Mr E says try both as same time to decide but be sure you compare apples to apples not apples to large tits LOL.My rule is "no honey, no money".
Yes a good conversation is important but is that with a slim 20+ years white girl who calls you 'daddy' or a large assed 50+ woman? For me the pinay wins (but am biased and am used to the 'demands' so deal with harshly at times).I was comparing a slim 37 size 6 western woman to the tight 22 year old Filipino body.
Another comparison I have to make is the regular but limited access to a western woman here or trade that off to 6 monthly trips where it is 24 x 7 sex on call.
I have been amazing at the quality of western women whom will do things, when you ask nicely. I had an interim fling with a department head, she was responsible for her location. Happy with her partner, he is a good dad but he no longer ravished or even touched her body. She was an attractive blonde that usually I would have been nervous to approach. My relationship cynicism tells me to give things a try these days and she was grateful for the attention. Amazing.
I have been watching Esther Perel which gives me some confidence of surviving all this.
PP.
Chocha Monger
08-16-19, 09:33
I was comparing a slim 37 size 6 western woman to the tight 22 year old Filipino body.
Another comparison I have to make is the regular but limited access to a western woman here or trade that off to 6 monthly trips where it is 24 x 7 sex on call.
I have been amazing at the quality of western women whom will do things, when you ask nicely. I had an interim fling with a department head, she was responsible for her location. Happy with her partner, he is a good dad but he no longer ravished or even touched her body. She was an attractive blonde that usually I would have been nervous to approach. My relationship cynicism tells me to give things a try these days and she was grateful for the attention. Amazing.
I have been watching Esther Perel which gives me some confidence of surviving all this.
PP.Approaching Western women for trysts is likely playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun. It does not matter whether one asks nicely or not. What matters is if she takes offense or wants the attention that comes with claiming sexy harassment. Is the possibility of having sex with her worth the risk to one's career and reputation? Likely not.
While there are many post-wall married American women who would leap at the chance to cheat on a husband, they often fantasize about doing so with a much younger man with washboard abs not middle-aged or elderly men. If the target of your sexual advances finds you less than desirable, she may welcome the opportunity to make some drama by informing her husband, peers, employer, and the public. This gets her the attention, validation, sympathy, and vindication she craves. Good for her but maybe not so much for you.
A well-known Spanish tenor is learning the risks that comes with asking nicely or not nicely from the perspective that matters, that of the quality Western women.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49334226
Most mongers are better off keeping it in their pants until the next trip.
While there are many post-wall married American women who would leap at the chance to cheat on a husband, they often fantasize about doing so with a much younger man with washboard abs not middle-aged or elderly men. If the target of your sexual advances finds you less than desirable, she may welcome the opportunity to make some drama by informing her husband, peers, employer, and the public. This gets her the attention, validation, sympathy, and vindication she craves. Good for her but maybe not so much for you..I like to think I'm better a selecting the right woman who doesn't have these tenancies. A) She has as much to lose and B) she's also a player.
Engine Driver
08-24-19, 01:43
If lying, cheating and conniving were events at the Olympic Games, then the Philippines would win gold, silver and bronze in each event. That's a total of 9 medals. Since only one Pinay has a ever won a medal at the Olympics in its 124 year history, perhaps some well connected mongers should lobby the IOC for the inclusion of these events on the grounds of fairness. Pinays are too lazy to run, jump or swim, so we should focus on events that can be done while laying in bed with a smart phone.
Every Pinay you meet in the hooking world or on dating apps will be a pathological liar. I am sure lying, cheating and conniving are biologically evolved survival skills to compensate for the lack of brain mass.
Chocha Monger
08-24-19, 01:56
I like to think I'm better a selecting the right woman who doesn't have these tenancies. A) She has as much to lose and B) she's also a player.Most of the men who got their lives destroyed were confident that they were choosing the right women and that their money and power could protect them.
Wicked Roger
08-24-19, 02:15
If lying, cheating and conniving were events at the Olympic Games, then the Philippines would win gold, silver and bronze in each event. That's a total of 9 medals. Since only one Pinay has a ever won a medal at the Olympics in its 124 year history, perhaps some well connected mongers should lobby the IOC for the inclusion of these events on the grounds of fairness. Pinays are too lazy to run, jump or swim, so we should focus on events that can be done while laying in bed with a smart phone.
Every Pinay you meet in the hooking world or on dating apps will be a pathological liar. I am sure lying, cheating and conniving are biologically evolved survival skills to compensate for the lack of brain mass.Add to that sleeping for up to 20 hours a day if allowed, spending an inordinate amount of time in the shower relative to body size (the 2 minute shower rule in some countries would never work in the Philippines) and not understanding that 830 pm means 830 pm and not some time much later LOL.
9 more medals ED LOL.
Pinaypounder
08-24-19, 15:01
I am in Canada and I like to hunt Filipinas.
Met one here, we chatted and agreed to meet for 5 days & 4 nights.
The known facts prior to meeting:
I knew she was working here and had one daughter (a rather normal circumstance).
She told me she had not had any sex for 2 years (again a typical story).
I am 19 years her senior.
She is an intelligent (a nice surprise) well educated woman who worked in a great professional job and was rather expert at it and frankly the 2nd most intelligent Filipina I have ever met.
She has made a good living in her last profession, had a car, motorcycle etc (rare in my travels). Traveled home allot.
Prior to meeting she found and went through my entire Facebook profile (I think she wanted to know that I was truly single ha ha ha, I leave mine open because I am actually single and one day hope to meet my last partner (not this one).
She was the daughter of a typical abusive relationship where the Father cheated repeatedly and beat the Mother, typical behavior. She of course loves her parents who in my normal western mind are very bad people.
She has done a great job in her profession progressing to Team Lead in a school and a supervisory position. She has goals and will likely achieve them.
She has had "4 lovers" (she repeatedly defended this) but has some pretty "good skills" so I wonder if the number is closer to 40. I should probably get tested.
She is a 7 with great tits and a hungry hungry!
She is multi orgasmic and loved a cock being inside of her.
Refused to provide any sort of sexual pictures again odd.
We meet and 2 hours later are having sex (this is why I love Filipinas despite their many flaws).
Typically conservative but a hungry, hungry ****. And was actually an active lover and perhaps the 4/5th best fucker I have ever had with a great mouth.
Super easy to be with and exhibits those old school woman values, again a huge positive of the Filipina.
Over the course of the 4 days I discover the following:
She is actually married and maintains a relationship with her husband in the Philippines who takes care of their daughter (that is a nice surprise a man being responsible, the marriage was a but of a shocker, I am an idealist).
Based on her description of her husband he seems to be gay (buy who knows she is a liar, they are such skilled liars I mean this may be their best cultural trait.).
She went home and fucked her husband at Christmas, but "not much" and she does not enjoy it (hahahahahaha) (8 months ago).
And of course when then reveals that she had a Filipina lover where she worked whom she fucked just prior to arriving here. (4 months ago).
The lover was the husband of a friend of hers and for the longest time during our 5 days she defended him despite him turning out to be a typical Filipino Muslim male who was constantly taking advantage of her. He made her pay for most of their meetings and adventures and then treated her like an indentured slave then asked of course to borrow money from her and for her to sign as a guarantor on his loan, likely she did although she denied it.
She is smart and meticulous in keeping her relationships separate, all of her Filipina friends are completely complicit in supporting her separate lives. Remember that fact boys! (If you want to know the real truth find an ex-friend and she will likely burn her to the ground.).
She took a lot of selfies and had a couple of calls with her husband. Maybe 5% of her pics involved the 2 of us.
Her "ex" lover called her 15 times but she did not take his calls.
I chatted with her best friend a couple of times so now the lying about me is added to the mix, that she never hid.
She is here desperate to get her PR and openly admits that she will bring her husband over with her daughter.
I was pissed at first, especially when it seems besides being married she is still maintaining with the lover. I had higher hopes and expectations, call me a Romantic.
After 4 days we talked about living together (my eyes were WIDE open now) and I think that I will, the fat white cunts here are frankly horrible and we had more sex in 5 days than most poor married bastards my age have in a year.
When we live together I will have the advantage, a wonderful **** at my disposal, a woman who takes care of me and I am able to provide a constant threat of being able to expose her if she becomes an asshole and there will be a pre-nup yes even for living together. Rather a sad perspective but now at least my eyes are wide open.
This is not ideal but hey it's a savage world and this is far better than what I can expect from a white woman my age who wants to lie around and drink wine because after all she "earned it" entitled bitches.
She knows that I will also be travelling to the Philippines a few times and will fuck my brains out. She refuses to discuss group sex she knows I love it and I have a green light.
So I look forward to it, in the back of my mind I am a little sad that it will never be a true relationship and of course she can never ever be trusted but hey I am getting fucked it seems nothing else matters.
So take advantage of what you can and if I stray now and again what can she say?
So that boys is my heads up to you. Please know that if you think you can actually have a real marriage 1970 style with an intelligent Filipina you can't. They all lie, the stupid part is that often lie for no reason.
Maybe this is why most seem so stupid, they are using most of their brain power to maintain their lie database and they have to cross reference each statement!
I guess I will never ever find true and proper love with a Filipina but but oh well. But now I realize I have a really good fuck who I can cheat on as she is cheating on me!
Keep your heads up, never marry them, treat them well, fuck the shit out of them but NEVER marry or trust them then you won't be disappointed just don't abuse them physically.
PP.
Pinaypounder
08-24-19, 17:09
Casual reader, first time poster.
For the past few years I was mixed up with a young pinay. She was pretty good company, actual real university student and committed to keeping my sausage happy.
We called it quits earlier this year. It's amazing how quickly they can accept reality when the money stops flowing. Actually I learned so much when I saw that in action.
Pay money every week for two years and then when it stops that really drives her to picking up casual mongers every weekend. I will be better prepared next time.l.1. Have reasonable intelligence and expectations and understand the market.
2. If you are sending money then you are creating an addict and then tada they are gone.
I never send money ever.
2. If you are sending money then you are creating an addict and then tada they are gone.
I never send money ever.Agreed. Sending money from overseas achieves nothing.
Those that think sending a monthly allowance will keep Lyn out of the bar, on the straight and narrow or will secure a place at the front of the queue upon return are just kidding them selves.
Enjoy. G.
I guess I will never ever find true and proper love with a Filipina but but oh well. But now I realize I have a really good fuck who I can cheat on as she is cheating on me!
Keep your heads up, never marry them, treat them well, fuck the shit out of them but NEVER marry or trust them then you won't be disappointed just don't abuse them physically.
PP.Once guys understand what you have said things can go great.
I once had a hooker as an unpaid GF. It was marvelous and full of great times. When we were together, we were together for some wild fun. When I was away, neither asked questions we didn't want answered. It was fabulous.
It only ended because some idiot didn't take your advice, 'saved' her with a wedding ring and took her off to Vietnam. What a Prick!
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
08-25-19, 01:06
Most of the men who got their lives destroyed were confident that they were choosing the right women and that their money and power could protect them.I am arguing with a guy in another thread that says he spent a bunch of money on a chick and they were going to get married and have kids and she fucked him over. Advises everyone against that partucular Nationality because 1 chick screwed him over. Now he is giving everyone advice to do the same shit that got him fucked up to begin with. And asking me what kind of friend I am if I am not trying to be financially available for every chick I know. MF I am a friend that does not get taken advantage of, that is what kind. Incredible!
You are going to have to turn a deaf ear to the people saying she is in it just for money and you just for sex. Still, it was a worthwhile experience even if it ended badly.
Everyone from afar thought what I was doing was crazy, but everyone who met us had a different opinion. I just met a lady whom I didn't bed who says that she won't date anyone under 50, and she is 28. She just likes hanging around older people.
Mr Enternational
08-25-19, 01:20
spending an inordinate amount of time in the shower relative to body sizeIn the Navy we used to call it a Hollywood shower.
Mr Enternational
08-25-19, 01:54
So that boys is my heads up to you. Please know that if you think you can actually have a real marriage 1970 style with an intelligent Filipina you can't. They all lie, the stupid part is that often lie for no reason.What screws us up most in life is the picture in our head of how it is supposed to be.
You knew this chick all of 2 days and had a picture of grandeur. PEOPLE LIE, not just Filipinos. It is no mystery of how Bernie Madoff made off with all those people's money. Trust is earned, not just bestowed upon a person because you met them and they seem to be a certain way or another.
When women say that we need to get to know each other first, I say for what? There have been people married to each other for 20 years and one did not know the other was an ax murderer. The only thing you are going to know is what I want you to know.
You were lucky that she wanted you to know on day 4 and not year 40. Go into things with an open mind and see objectively where a person is. Don't just jump into shit for fantasy's sake because you have in your head the female version of a knight in shining armor and are looking for someone to fit the bill.
P. S. What was so real about a marriage in 1970? Maybe from the outside looking in you thought you were seeing something that actually was not. The game does not change, only the players do.
WestCoast1
08-25-19, 08:07
In the Navy we used to call it a Hollywood shower.One minute on, one minute off, one minute on?
So that boys is my heads up to you. Please know that if you think you can actually have a real marriage 1970 style with an intelligent Filipina you can't. They all lie, the stupid part is that often lie for no reason..Thanks for the informative post. It's good to be reminded of what is possible.
I do have a local Filipina contact here my home town. I had left her go cold for a few months as she was getting hard to meet. She actually got herself promoted at work and that was eating into my fun.
After your post I think I'll see if she wants to re-engage.
Paul.
Chocha Monger
08-25-19, 13:03
I am arguing with a guy in another thread that says he spent a bunch of money on a chick and they were going to get married and have kids and she fucked him over. Advises everyone against that partucular Nationality because 1 chick screwed him over. Now he is giving everyone advice to do the same shit that got him fucked up to begin with. And asking me what kind of friend I am if I am not trying to be financially available for every chick I know. MF I am a friend that does not get taken advantage of, that is what kind. Incredible!Some guys just cannot stop trying to save women from poverty not matter how many times the gratitude they expect fails to materialize. They do not realize that poor women born into poverty are molded by it. Poor women develop an obsession with acquiring money because they spend their lives not having enough for basic needs. These women do not respect suckers who open their wallets to them. They have no sympathy for walking-ATM mongers trying to buy love and loyalty. A monger can buy temporary access to the pussy but he cannot buy her love and devotion. Money is all that matters.
Many Western men are trained to be doormats for women and they take this with them wherever they monger, always paying to save women from some crisis or other. This is their frame when it comes to women and you cannot convince them to see things differently. In their world, they put pussy on a pedestal and worship it in awe. Women have pussy and this imbues them with the status of demigods. Some mongers are powerless before them, spending their last trying to earn a wife.
Chocha Monger
08-25-19, 16:38
She is here desperate to get her PR and openly admits that she will bring her husband over with her daughter.
I was pissed at first, especially when it seems besides being married she is still maintaining with the lover. I had higher hopes and expectations, call me a Romantic.
After 4 days we talked about living together (my eyes were WIDE open now) and I think that I will, the fat white cunts here are frankly horrible and we had more sex in 5 days than most poor married bastards my age have in a year.
When we live together I will have the advantage, a wonderful **** at my disposal, a woman who takes care of me and I am able to provide a constant threat of being able to expose her if she becomes an asshole and there will be a pre-nup yes even for living together. Rather a sad perspective but now at least my eyes are wide open..I agree that you should get your cock tested after being bareback inside your lying lady-friend. You can bet the house that there were more than four cocks inside of her snatch; more like 400 is a more honest number. Given the raging HIV epidemic ravaging gay men in the Philippines, there is reason for concern if her husband is a gay and you are raw-dogging the same hole.
A relationship between a philandering Filipina and a monger is like two peas in a pod. She will abuse you mentally, emotionally, and financially but at least you will have some nasty sex in between the drama. Whether or not is worth it is up to you, as they say. Lock up the family jewels, before she moves in.
PedroMorales
08-26-19, 00:14
I end up helping a lot of people and trying to help a lot more. Some individuals close to me are a heart beat from taking the axe to their estranged wives. The bitterness when they speak is like the winds of hell. Many guys here are carrying the same shtt. For my part, I see both sides but I can do nothing ass the hatred is that intense. These are very educated people but that doesn't mean shtt. Prisons are full of such folk.
Now, bitter people go to the Philippines and knock around with hookers. What could possibly go wrong with 60 year old lower middle class guys hooking up with Pinays who can barely read and whose 22 brothers and sisters cannot read or write either but can subsist on their half acre of mountain scrub land?
When I talk to the Pinay sweethearts about what we will do together, it is always have a good tine, splash my cash and to hell with tomorrow. That is one of the reasons the Chinese have all the money in the Philippines.
Every single hooker in the Philippines was a sweet little girl once. But now every last one of them is damaged goods. Put your dick in them squirt your load, do some small talk and Run, Forest, Run.
Every single hooker in the Philippines was a sweet little girl once. But now every last one of them is damaged goods.They're not damaged goods. They are doing their job: selling their body for cash. Some just do it exceedingly well.
Cheers. G.
They're not damaged goods. They are doing their job: selling their body for cash. Some just do it exceedingly well.
Cheers. G.It's about choices. Without eucaiton girls have limited choices on how to survive, so using their God-given body is a good solution.
Times are changing for many girls but the numbers still favour the uneducated.
Chocha Monger
08-28-19, 01:36
I end up helping a lot of people and trying to help a lot more. Some individuals close to me are a heart beat from taking the axe to their estranged wives. The bitterness when they speak is like the winds of hell. Many guys here are carrying the same shtt. For my part, I see both sides but I can do nothing ass the hatred is that intense. These are very educated people but that doesn't mean shtt. Prisons are full of such folk.
Now, bitter people go to the Philippines and knock around with hookers. What could possibly go wrong with 60 year old lower middle class guys hooking up with Pinays who can barely read and whose 22 brothers and sisters cannot read or write either but can subsist on their half acre of mountain scrub land?
When I talk to the Pinay sweethearts about what we will do together, it is always have a good tine, splash my cash and to hell with tomorrow. That is one of the reasons the Chinese have all the money in the Philippines.
Every single hooker in the Philippines was a sweet little girl once. But now every last one of them is damaged goods. Put your dick in them squirt your load, do some small talk and Run, Forest, Run.Yes. They were once heavenly creatures. Now, they are all fallen angels. They only crave cash and cum. Any monger falling into their web is going to get the life sucked out of him, and not via BBBJCIM. Still many lonely mongers are going to attempt to reform these fallen sweethearts in girlfriends or even wives. The warnings abound but many love-struck mongers believe in innocent angelic farm girls who are only selling it for a noble cause.
Pinaypounder
08-29-19, 04:24
What screws us up most in life is the picture in our head of how it is supposed to be.
You knew this chick all of 2 days and had a picture of grandeur. PEOPLE LIE, not just Filipinos. It is no mystery of how Bernie Madoff made off with all those people's money. Trust is earned, not just bestowed upon a person because you met them and they seem to be a certain way or another.
When women say that we need to get to know each other first, I say for what? There have been people married to each other for 20 years and one did not know the other was an ax murderer. The only thing you are going to know is what I want you to know.
You were lucky that she wanted you to know on day 4 and not year 40. Go into things with an open mind and see objectively where a person is. Don't just jump into shit for fantasy's sake because you have in your head the female version of a knight in shining armor and are looking for someone to fit the bill..I am an idealist. Perhaps a romantic. Every GF except one in the past 11 years has been a Filipina, about 5 and of course another 120 I bedded. I know them well.
PP.
Engine Driver
08-29-19, 11:49
Does anyone know if depression and anxiety are even considered as illnesses in the Philippines? In most Asian countries, mental health has the lowest priority and is rarely discussed.
I often think what will happen in the future to the all the young prostitutes we see. Most will become total nut cases. Once you cross the line and become a prostitute, it is impossible to walk away unscathed.
Does anyone know if depression and anxiety are even considered as illnesses in the Philippines? In most Asian countries, mental health has the lowest priority and is rarely discussed.
I often think what will happen in the future to the all the young prostitutes we see. Most will become total nut cases. Once you cross the line and become a prostitute, it is impossible to walk away unscathed.Over the years I've known of several working girls that have descended into madness. There have always been two common factors. Firstly, drugs were always involved. I don't know if drugs contributed to or were an effect of their madness. Secondly other girls always said that while working they use to be very beautiful and sought after. Whether they were being kind or truthful, I don't know.
I've often said that it's all fun on the outside but scratch a little deeper and it's not a pleasant industry.
As a parallel, if you look at international schools, you will find that kids with physical medical issues are readily treated with physio, motorised aids, care workers etc. Kids with mental and neurological disorders (ADHD, Autism, Anxiety etc) often find it very difficult to get adequate treatment and assistance. Often the only remedy is for them and mum to go back home. These are families with considerable resources and well funded expat insurance coverage behind them. Obviously, the situation would be much worse for anyone out in the village.
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
08-29-19, 12:21
I often think what will happen in the future to the all the young prostitutes we see. Most will become total nut cases. Once you cross the line and become a prostitute, it is impossible to walk away unscathed.But this is not the first generation. Do you see their mothers, who were hookers as well, as total nut cases?
Engine Driver
08-29-19, 12:29
But this is not the first generation. Do you see their mothers, who were hookers as well, as total nut cases?Yes, probably. We don't know what happened to them when they returned to the provinces. How can a 22 year old girl have a normal life after she has fucked 1,000 foreigners?
Does anyone know if depression and anxiety are even considered as illnesses in the Philippines? In most Asian countries, mental health has the lowest priority and is rarely discussed.
I often think what will happen in the future to the all the young prostitutes we see. Most will become total nut cases. Once you cross the line and become a prostitute, it is impossible to walk away unscathed.May be it is the demographic I target but most I meet are students paying for courses to ensure their future or looking at financing a business. I have only met a couple that were doing it because they were young and were single mothers though I usually avoid mothers.
May be it is the demographic I target but most I meet are students paying for courses to ensure their future or looking at financing a business. I have only met a couple that were doing it because they were young and were single mothers though I usually avoid mothers.I wish your girls well but the reality is that many start off that way but after becoming addicted to the money and fast lifestyle and everyone learning of their choices, it can be a profession that is very difficult to make a break from.
Cheers. G.
Chocha Monger
08-30-19, 02:53
Over the years I've known of several working girls that have descended into madness. There have always been two common factors. Firstly, drugs were always involved. I don't know if drugs contributed to or were an effect of their madness. Secondly other girls always said that while working they use to be very beautiful and sought after. Whether they were being kind or truthful, I don't know.
I've often said that it's all fun on the outside but scratch a little deeper and it's not a pleasant industry.
If it is any consolation, most are as crazy as a March hare before arriving at the bars of Angeles City, Subic Bay, and Burgos St. The rice farmers are not sending you their best daughters. They sacrifice the lunatics, dunces, single-mothers, and sickly to fat old mongers. This gives the family some cash to raise the daughters with better prospects of marrying a Filipino.
Does anyone know if depression and anxiety are even considered as illnesses in the Philippines? In most Asian countries, mental health has the lowest priority and is rarely discussed.
I do not know of many psychologists in Ph. They would be busy but nobody could pay them.
Steve Nash
09-22-19, 18:34
I am in Canada and I like to hunt Filipinas.
Met one here, we chatted and agreed to meet for 5 days & 4 nights.
The known facts prior to meeting:
I knew she was working here and had one daughter (a rather normal circumstance).
She told me she had not had any sex for 2 years (again a typical story).
I am 19 years her senior.
She is an intelligent (a nice surprise) well educated woman who worked in a great professional job and was rather expert at it and frankly the 2nd most intelligent Filipina I have ever met.
She has made a good living in her last profession, had a car, motorcycle etc (rare in my travels). Traveled home allot.
Prior to meeting she found and went through my entire Facebook profile (I think she wanted to know that I was truly single ha ha ha, I leave mine open because I am actually single and one day hope to meet my last partner (not this one).
She was the daughter of a typical abusive relationship where the Father cheated repeatedly and beat the Mother, typical behavior. She of course loves her parents who in my normal western mind are very bad people.
She has done a great job in her profession progressing to Team Lead in a school and a supervisory position. She has goals and will likely achieve them.
She has had "4 lovers" (she repeatedly defended this) but has some pretty "good skills" so I wonder if the number is closer to 40. I should probably get tested.
She is a 7 with great tits and a hungry hungry!
She is multi orgasmic and loved a cock being inside of her.
Refused to provide any sort of sexual pictures again odd.
We meet and 2 hours later are having sex (this is why I love Filipinas despite their many flaws).
Typically conservative but a hungry, hungry ****. And was actually an active lover and perhaps the 4/5th best fucker I have ever had with a great mouth.
Super easy to be with and exhibits those old school woman values, again a huge positive of the Filipina.
Over the course of the 4 days I discover the following:
She is actually married and maintains a relationship with her husband in the Philippines who takes care of their daughter (that is a nice surprise a man being responsible, the marriage was a but of a shocker, I am an idealist).
Based on her description of her husband he seems to be gay (buy who knows she is a liar, they are such skilled liars I mean this may be their best cultural trait.).
She went home and fucked her husband at Christmas, but "not much" and she does not enjoy it (hahahahahaha) (8 months ago).
And of course when then reveals that she had a Filipina lover where she worked whom she fucked just prior to arriving here. (4 months ago).
The lover was the husband of a friend of hers and for the longest time during our 5 days she defended him despite him turning out to be a typical Filipino Muslim male who was constantly taking advantage of her. He made her pay for most of their meetings and adventures and then treated her like an indentured slave then asked of course to borrow money from her and for her to sign as a guarantor on his loan, likely she did although she denied it.
She is smart and meticulous in keeping her relationships separate, all of her Filipina friends are completely complicit in supporting her separate lives. Remember that fact boys! (If you want to know the real truth find an ex-friend and she will likely burn her to the ground.).
She took a lot of selfies and had a couple of calls with her husband. Maybe 5% of her pics involved the 2 of us.
Her "ex" lover called her 15 times but she did not take his calls.
I chatted with her best friend a couple of times so now the lying about me is added to the mix, that she never hid.
She is here desperate to get her PR and openly admits that she will bring her husband over with her daughter.
I was pissed at first, especially when it seems besides being married she is still maintaining with the lover. I had higher hopes and expectations, call me a Romantic.
After 4 days we talked about living together (my eyes were WIDE open now) and I think that I will, the fat white cunts here are frankly horrible and we had more sex in 5 days than most poor married bastards my age have in a year.
When we live together I will have the advantage, a wonderful **** at my disposal, a woman who takes care of me and I am able to provide a constant threat of being able to expose her if she becomes an asshole and there will be a pre-nup yes even for living together. Rather a sad perspective but now at least my eyes are wide open.
This is not ideal but hey it's a savage world and this is far better than what I can expect from a white woman my age who wants to lie around and drink wine because after all she "earned it" entitled bitches.
She knows that I will also be travelling to the Philippines a few times and will fuck my brains out. She refuses to discuss group sex she knows I love it and I have a green light.
So I look forward to it, in the back of my mind I am a little sad that it will never be a true relationship and of course she can never ever be trusted but hey I am getting fucked it seems nothing else matters.
So take advantage of what you can and if I stray now and again what can she say?
So that boys is my heads up to you. Please know that if you think you can actually have a real marriage 1970 style with an intelligent Filipina you can't. They all lie, the stupid part is that often lie for no reason.
Maybe this is why most seem so stupid, they are using most of their brain power to maintain their lie database and they have to cross reference each statement!
I guess I will never ever find true and proper love with a Filipina but but oh well. But now I realize I have a really good fuck who I can cheat on as she is cheating on me!
Keep your heads up, never marry them, treat them well, fuck the shit out of them but NEVER marry or trust them then you won't be disappointed just don't abuse them physically.
PP.No all Filipinas in Canada are literally liars, you can find some good Filipinas here in Canada, who are marriage material, will not lie to you, they will take care of you, and be faithful to you even when she knows you are travelling to the Philippines every year to change oil.
I actually find one like that here in Canada, we been together for 2 years now, in an open relationship, she is 12 years younger than me, she has an amazing booty that drives me crazy, nice curve body, not short, cute, looks like 5 years younger (like 21 or 22), good in bed, never married and with no kids, gives me alot of freedom to meet other girls as long I don't tell her otherwise she can get abit jealous.
But more important she is very faithful to me and never lies so far. Every week she surprises me of the things she is willing to do for me.
Of course she does all this because she loves me and she is just waiting for me to decide to make our relationship a serious one. I kind of feel bad I don't feel the same. And I was hoping that eventually I can feel the same so I can reward her patients, her faithfulness and her unconditional love.
Anyways to make it short, yes you can find good filipinas like that here in Canada. BUT you need to know how to find them.
My advice is to find girls who are not party girls, girls who don't go to bars / nightclubs with her friends alot (in Canada or back in her country). Because let's be honest, you might be able to find good filipina girls in a bar / nightclub, who will really love you and be faithful, but eventually they will open their eyes and change when they knows you are sleeping around. These are the good party girls BTW, which are very few, BUT most party girls will be like you say liars and unfaithful ones.
So in general no party girls, this doesn't mean they have to be boring church girls, the one I have she is not a party girl BUT she still drinks with me and party with me once a while.
The reason not party girls because this girls will get spoil or if they are not spoil they will have friends who are spoil, and these spoil friends will be the ones that will make her change her mind eventually when you are in Philippines having fun and she will be in Canada with her spoil friends having fun also.
Another advice I can give you, is to start the relationship as an open relationship. Come up with a great excuse as to why you are not looking for a serious relationship at the moment (mine was a great honest excuse), and once she falls for you, she will accept you, wait for you, and give you all the freedom you want.
People might say I'm a bad person, I'm not, I never lied to her, I was honest to her from the beginning that I don't want serious, unlike most guys who would lie and cheat on their girl.
Another thing, make her your main girl here in Canada, she needs to know that. I meet my girl twice a week for 2 years, mostly Sunday and a weekday. Then I have Friday and Saturday to go out with friends and hunt other girls if I want.
Anyways this is my advice on how to find good Filipina girls here in Canada.
There might be another way too, but for me this is how I was able to find a good filipina who will put up with all my trips and give me all the freedom I want here in Canada.
PedroMorales
09-22-19, 18:58
Over the years I've known of several working girls that have descended into madness..There was one used to roam about Pattaya; the women were quite good to her. You only have to look at some of the homeless women in Fields. Besides all else, the clap makes them go nuts when not treated.
Chocha Monger
09-22-19, 21:09
There was one used to roam about Pattaya; the women were quite good to her. You only have to look at some of the homeless women in Fields. Besides all else, the clap makes them go nuts when not treated.Look at the potbellied bald mongers prowling Fields Ave doped up on Viagra. After a few months of these fellows pounding the Pinay hookers in all three holes, all but the strongest girls develop that vacant thousand-cock stare. The hookers all eventually discover shabu to give them energy for the nightlong shuffling in high-heels on stage, and to maintain that bright wide-eyed look that catches the attention of mongers on the prowl for fresh meat from the rice farms. Of course, repeated bouts of the drug-resistant clap and other bugs is enough to drive anyone insane.
Sucking thousands of cocks is not a normal experience for the average woman, and it is understandable that many Pinay hookers suffer PTSD from sucking so many cocks, which may be aged, diseased, and / or disfigured. They cannot speak to their families of the things that they have seen. Eventually, it drives them mad.
Yes. They were once heavenly creatures. Now, they are all fallen angels. They only crave cash and cum. Any monger falling into their web is going to get the life sucked out of him, and not via BBBJCIM. Still many lonely mongers are going to attempt to reform these fallen sweethearts in girlfriends or even wives. The warnings abound but many love-struck mongers believe in innocent angelic farm girls who are only selling it for a noble cause.Opinion. When I travel I keep my feet firmly on the ground and know this is short term play. It will not lead to anything despite how young and beautiful I may think she is or how much she may beg her love for me.
It is possible to have sessions with WG's that are mutually beneficial. And do it with some degree of decency and consideration for the provider. I prefer the term friends with financial benefits than monger as it puts my take on my activities.
Any traveller who thinks they can reform the WG is on a hiding to nothing. BYVMD.
GoodEnough
09-22-19, 23:47
I do not know of many psychologists in Ph. They would be busy but nobody could pay them.I have a Psychiatrist friend here with a huge practice, so obviously there are some folks who can afford to pay. I did ask him about the availability and use of SRIs, and he told me that they're regularly prescribed and readily available, so some folks here are getting their depression treated.
GE.
BrainDrain
09-23-19, 00:10
No all Filipinas in Canada are literally liars, you can find some good Filipinas here in Canada, who are marriage material, will not lie to you, they will take care of you, and be faithful to you even when she knows you are travelling to the Philippines every year to change oil.The term about good non-party girls is good advice. The filipina I met here in Australia she was looking for a job and we just flirted a bit along the way. She had been here in Australia 1.5 years already so maybe her Plan A was not working out. She is tn years my junior and had an older daughter back in Ph. And she is not looking to take our relationship any further than casual. We have done some interstate travel together but I get a bit bored and constrained with her being there all the time. I enjoy some freedom.
It's also true that the Filipina are accepting and forgiving. They are amazing in this regard.
PP.
It's also true that the Filipina are accepting and forgiving. They are amazing in this regard.
PP.I think women in general only worry about things that threaten them.
If Johnny Suburban strikes up a relationship and affair with the pretty secretary at work there is a fair chance that she is the social and economic equal to his wife just younger and prettier. Hence, she poses a real threat to his wife's marriage, social and economic security and, how her friends would now view her.
If an Asian husband gets a great blow job from a hooker there is no bond with her as the same is available litterally on every corner. Said provider is in no way as socially or economically acceptable partner as his wife and therefore poses no threat to the marital union. Hence, she poses no threat to the wife whatsoever. Actually she provides a release where hubby can undertake activities that she, as a 'good girl', will not consider doing.
Cheers. G.
Steve Nash
09-23-19, 18:19
It's also true that the Filipina are accepting and forgiving. They are amazing in this regard..I agree 100%!
That's why we all love them!
Engine Driver
10-01-19, 12:48
Funny but true.
Funny but true.Huuh?? I fully admit I've got the sense of humour of a tree stump but surely it's the other way. I know several white girls that were a 10 in suburbia but now can't score a free drink in Asia. Young school teachers feature prominently. And don't they hate it!! 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
10-02-19, 07:42
I was not quite prepared for this answer LOL. This girl is a college graduate who quit her call Centre job because it required effort. She now sits at home in Davao fishing for a foreign husband full time. Her friends got lucky. They have foreign bfs who send them money each month and pay the rent on a condo. One visits twice a year. Expensive way to get a root.
DogManDoofus
10-02-19, 07:47
I was not quite prepared for this answer LOL. This girl is a college graduate who quit her call Centre job because it required effort. She now sits at home in Davao fishing for a foreign husband full time. Her friends got lucky. They have foreign bfs who send them money each month and pay the rent on a condo. One visits twice a year. Expensive way to get a root.And I'm sure they're all exclusive.
I have a Psychiatrist friend here with a huge practice, so obviously there are some folks who can afford to pay. I did ask him about the availability and use of SRIs, and he told me that they're regularly prescribed and readily available, so some folks here are getting their depression treated.
GE.I would go the natural route for many reasons, namely magnesium. Has been said to be 10 x more effective in treating depression. Lifestyle changes obviously apply also, abstinence from alcohol and other recreational drugs generally a must.
Cheers.
I was not quite prepared for this answer LOL. This girl is a college graduate who quit her call Centre job because it required effort. She now sits at home in Davao fishing for a foreign husband full time. Her friends got lucky. They have foreign bfs who send them money each month and pay the rent on a condo. One visits twice a year. Expensive way to get a root.Not quite stupid:
She's unlikely to have given up the pinoy dick while looking for the foreign boyfriend. When she does find one the pinoy will become the live in driver / gardner / cousin in their new house. Very convenient for the 48 weeks a year said BF is back home.
A few sponsors will certainly be providing allowances higher than a call girl salary and as you said it's zero effort and the guys are only in country a few weeks a year.
The belief that mixed kids are beautiful is quite common and often true throughout Asia. Many past Ms Universe representatives were Eurasian. The 2018 winner was Aussie / Philippine.
I've always said part time hookers are the most expensive root you can find. 😲.
Enjoy. G.
Not quite stupid:
She's unlikely to have given up the pinoy dick while looking for the foreign boyfriend. When she does find one the pinoy will become the live in driver / gardner / cousin in their new house. Very convenient for the 48 weeks a year said BF is back home.
A few sponsors will certainly be providing allowances higher than a call girl salary and as you said it's zero effort and the guys are only in country a few weeks a year.
The belief that mixed kids are beautiful is quite common and often true throughout Asia. Many past Ms Universe representatives were Eurasian. The 2018 winner was Aussie / Philippine.
I've always said part time hookers are the most expensive root you can find. 😲.
Enjoy. G.Sponsors for whatever reason get satisfaction of having a GF. I doubt if they are harboring the illusion that the young hormonal girl is waiting for sex few days in a year with him.
IMHO talking to some of these sponsored girls they laugh at the stupidity all the while enjoying the money. They know very well it maybe short lived the moment the sponsor gets a new girl.
Soapy Smith
10-02-19, 17:59
This girl is a college graduate who quit her call Centre job because it required effort. Did you confirm that she finished college and actually worked in a call center? Her English doesn't seem very good for either of these activities. Of course, "college" can take many different forms in the Phils. Maybe add lying to stupid and shallow.
And I'm sure they're all exclusive.Serial exclusivity?
She only fucks one guy at a time, might only be 10 minutes between, but only one at a time.
Unless they pay extra of course.
Engine Driver
10-03-19, 04:33
Sponsors for whatever reason get satisfaction of having a GF. I doubt if they are harboring the illusion that the young hormonal girl is waiting for sex few days in a year with him.
IMHO talking to some of these sponsored girls they laugh at the stupidity all the while enjoying the money. They know very well it maybe short lived the moment the sponsor gets a new girl.I've been guilty of sending money as well. You get short term satisfaction in giving. It's an emotional decision. But I've learnt my lesson now. There is absolutely no point in opening your wallet. You will not get any gratitude from these girls and if you refuse to give further, they will move onto the next idiot within 3 minutes.
PedroMorales
10-03-19, 08:54
Well gents, can we arrive at a verdict? Is it a case that love is blind? Are we not blessed to walk amongst these angels?
There is absolutely no point in opening your wallet. You will not get any gratitude from these girls and if you refuse to give further, they will move onto the next idiot within 3 minutes.Surprisingly, I don't think you get any negativity from not paying either. Perhaps they are just trying their luck at that particular time but I've never had any of the rejected girls refuse to meet me again when I returned and was standing there, cash in hand.
Enjoy. G.
Surprisingly, I don't think you get any negativity from not paying either. Perhaps they are just trying their luck at that particular time but I've never had any of the rejected girls refuse to meet me again when I returned and was standing there, cash in hand.
Enjoy. G.Exactly what Goferring says. I get the same great treatment when I'm back in town and meet them with money in hand even though I've turned them down a dozen times for money over the last month. We pick up right where we left off last time fun was had. Got to love the Philippines! .
BrainDrain
10-04-19, 01:19
I have sent money to various girls under various schemes in the past few years.
One on going scheme was when I was living in AC and it made sense ot have the girl on a retainer. She was always punctual and available when I needed. It made good business sense. She did have some hairbrained ideas about a 'loan' from me to fund her building a house. I declined that offer and the retainer scheme continued.
One time I had a girl hit by an earthquake and that was a legitimate need.
Other requests I don't send saying that I'll support them wen I am there.
Paul.
I have sent money to various girls under various schemes in the past few years.Yes, they are always scheming. Varies from day to day, although "buffalo sick" , and "mumma in hospital" isn't heard of much nowadays.
My M. O. Is "face to face" , no internet addresses / communication etc.
Chocha Monger
10-06-19, 01:04
5. What is the possibility of getting a decent looking freelancer below 30 yrs of age and making her stay with me for 3-4 days at a lesser price. I am not a variety seeking person. If a decent looking hygienic girl can give me a good GFE, I won't mind repeating her for a few days. I am stressing on this because I am currently inexperienced in picking girls through GOGO's. I am quite presentable and certainly not a cheap charlie but no past GOGO experience that's all.
Don't do this. You will form an attachment and start sending her money once you go home. I speak from experience. Men are weak, men are idiots.
Or end up marrying her.Correct fellas! This is how mongers fall in love with freelance Pinay cocksuckers, marry them, and take them home to be good little wives. The monger makes the first mistake of shacking up with a Pinay cocksucker for some multi-day extended cock-sucking and bareback cum-in-pussy sessions. She sucks his cock like a heavy-duty Dyson vacuum cleaner, and he loves it so much that he wants more. He places her on a retainer once he returns home and she starts sucking his bank account dry instead of his cock.
The monger starts thinking since he is supporting his sweet Pinay cocksucker financially, he may as well marry and import her. He finds the prospect of having his cock sucked several times a day very appealing. He remembers the convenience of rolling over and mounting that exotic Bush pussy at will during his time in the Philippines. Hence, he marries her against his better judgment, falling victim to the worst tragedy that could ever befall a man. He will pay dearly for his simping.
Engine Driver
10-06-19, 07:17
5. What is the possibility of getting a decent looking freelancer below 30 yrs of age and making her stay with me for 3-4 days at a lesser price.
.If you are already planning on discounting, you are indeed off to a bad start. I'm sorry to say this, but you are fucked before you even get on the plane. LOL.
If you saw your doctor three days in a row, would you ask him for a discount? You are a rich monger who can afford to go on overseas holidays. The girl is poor, unmarried and has a baby. Why use the power imbalance to beat her down on price for the three day trip? It is plain wrong. If her LT fee is 5,000 a day, then three days would be 15,000. Just pay it. Everyone will be a lot happier.
Prostitution is hard work. Girls do not like hanging out with foreign mongers. Mongers snore, they smell, they sweat and constantly want shots on goal. The girl is providing you with a valuable service you cannot get back in your country. Just treat her with a little kindness and respect. They hate having to negotiate, just so they can buy milk for their babies.
That's my rant for the day. Gentlemen, you may shoot me down.
If you are already planning on discounting, you are indeed off to a bad start. I'm sorry to say this, but you are fucked before you even get on the plane. LOL.I agree, "you are fucked before you even get on the plane".
Filipinas are averse to curipot guys. They like generous guys. Even so, they do not respect guys who are stupid with their money either. There is a balance between being generous and being a fool, with ones money. You will not get much if your a fool, and you will get even less if your curipot / dihig / cheap charlie.
Wrong attitude / m. O. I am afraid, my friend.
If you are already planning on discounting, you are indeed off to a bad start. I'm sorry to say this, but you are fucked before you even get on the plane. LOL.Agreed. For 3 days only, just pay the rate x 3 because:
It's the right thing to do.
She will find numerous things to do to thank you for the ongoing business.
You will be getting more for your money anyway as her definition of LT will likely grow from just overnight to 24 hrs per day (if that's what you want).
You can bail if you want to after a day or two rather than comiting to your whole holiday at a fixed lower price.
I have organised weekly rates before but these are hardly knock down prices. Typically just her normal income paid direct to her without drink, dancing, barfine commissions etc paid to the bar. It's a win win.
Enjoy. G.
Correct fellas! This is how mongers fall in love with freelance Pinay cocksuckers, marry them, and take them home to be good little wives. ....I usually do not agree with CM's view but on this post I have to say I am 100% in agreement with him.
Marrying a foreigner, even if you got a good girl with an education and from an upper middle class background and taking her out of this culture and expecting her to adapt to a Western culture is fraught with issues, it is difficult to do successfully.
Marrying a sex worker and expecting her to be totally reformed and becoming your own personal sex toy forever, even if she is from your culture is also a low percentage effort.
Combining the two is just a good plan to have a disaster. It will cost you nothing but money, now and for an ongoing long time afterwards.
Say no to marrying a pina sex worker, save yourself while you can.
Mr Enternational
10-07-19, 03:21
Combining the two is just a good plan to have a disaster. It will cost you nothing but money, now and for an ongoing long time afterwards.
Say no to marrying a pina sex worker, save yourself while you can.It will cost you more than money.
GoodEnough
10-07-19, 03:26
I usually do not agree with CM's view but on this post I have to say I am 100% in agreement with him.
Marrying a foreigner, even if you got a good girl with an education and from an upper middle class background and taking her out of this culture and expecting her to adapt to a Western culture is fraught with issues, it is difficult to do successfully.
KG, I usually agree with your insights, and doubtless what you've said is true in many cases. However, I've met beautiful women here with excellent educations, who have spent more time in the US than I have and who would be entirely comfortable in a Western, English-speaking environment. So while these are rare birds, they're not so rare that they can't be found; surely not in bars and not without some effort, but they do exist. I have several friends here—mostly European but also a couple of Americans—who travel routinely with their wives between their home countries and the Philippines, living in both for extended periods.
GE.
Engine Driver
10-07-19, 06:08
KG, I usually agree with your insights, and doubtless what you've said is true in many cases. However, I've met beautiful women here with excellent educations, who have spent more time in the US than I have and who would be entirely comfortable in a Western, English-speaking environment. So while these are rare birds, they're not so rare that they can't be found; surely not in bars and not without some effort, but they do exist. I have several friends heremostly European but also a couple of Americanswho travel routinely with their wives between their home countries and the Philippines, living in both for extended periods.
GE.Outlaw motorcycle club members wear a 1% patch on their leathers to indicate that's the percentage of riders who are non-law abiding.
GE, I think you should wear a 1% patch on the back of your shirt to indicate precisely the percentage of mongers who would seriously consider your proposal to meet sophisticated, highly educated, wealthy Pinays in Davao. LOL.
99% of motorcycle riders are law abiding. A similar percentage of mongers have no interest whatsoever in being intellectually challenged while on a mongering sexcation. We mongers prefer girls who sit around plastic tables drinking Red Horse, rather than those snobby ones who sit in airconditioned wine bars, perusing expensive wine lists. We want "mud between her toes" girls. Not those who wear Alexander McQueens from Greenbelt 5. Someone who can deep throat a cock and smile after swallowing a big cum load. Not someone who can analyse the proverbs of Marcus Aurelius after swallowing our expensive Chateau Lafite.
The only metric that matters for us is the time taken (in seconds) from "eyes first meet" to "panties down". The thickness in inches of her dissertation doesn't count.
I hope you don't mind my saying this, but I think you've been stuck in that "terrorist shithole" (attrib. C.Monger) for too long and have lost touch with what feral mongers really want. I will bring you a 1% patch when I visit Davao. I promise.
We mongers prefer girls who sit around plastic tables drinking Red Horse, rather than those snobby ones who sit in airconditioned wine bars, perusing expensive wine lists.It's horses for courses.
The Red Horse set are great for a weekend's fun. But daily for 18 years (the time GE said he's been in Davao)? I'd rather stab myself in the eye.
Similarly, the HiSo set come with way too much baggage to engage in Cum gargling challenges but come in handy when it's time to go stateside and meet the family or have enough IQ to book a holiday.
Cheers. G.
KG, I usually agree with your insights, and doubtless what you've said is true in many cases. However, I've met beautiful women here with excellent educations, who have spent more time in the US than I have and who would be entirely comfortable in a Western, English-speaking environment. So while these are rare birds, they're not so rare that they can't be found; surely not in bars and not without some effort, but they do exist. I have several friends heremostly European but also a couple of Americanswho travel routinely with their wives between their home countries and the Philippines, living in both for extended periods.
GE.I consider these the exceptions that prove the rule. If they are western educated, and have spent more time in the US than some Americans, are they truly representative of the other 50,000,000 females in the Philippines?
PedroMorales
10-07-19, 09:24
I consider these the exceptions that prove the rule. If they are western educated, and have spent more time in the US than some Americans, are they truly representative of the other 50,000,000 females in the Philippines?A lot of middle class Pinays, nurses and the rest, wouldn't give any monger a second look. Being bonked by World war 2 veterans will never be part of their linked in profile. The Philippines is not that different form many Western countries of the past. The upwardly mobile (call them what you will) work hard and hope to help their families. Speak to them and they will tel you. If they just think you bonk alley cats or like sniffing hiso panties, forget about it.
On the Red Horse: that is lethal stuff. If they are swigging it back, drop them and save yourself trouble.
Of course, it depends what you are looking for. A lady who has a few SMLs with bad English is probably the best, age 20-32. Going out karaokeing, Jollibeeing, clubbing and Dark Horsing can be fun but too much for this old soldier, who prefers a few SMLs, a leisurely roll in the hay a friendly pat on the ass to send them on their way and a good night's sleep.
A local provider just kik'd me at 7.17 am. What is a good hooker doing up at that hour, I ask. Kik will soon be no more. We will soldier on, without Red Horse.
The only metric that matters for us is the time taken (in seconds) from "eyes first meet" to "panties down". The thickness in inches of her dissertation doesn't count.Nicely written but.
I met with a double degree, business-law type that was a senior manager for a large US corp. She was head of her region and had a nice corner office in Clark. Our first meeting venue was Jollibee near Walking Street at 7 am in the morning. One coffee there and she took me back to her apartment on the road to Dau. Fucked me stupid for two hours, then headed into her office.
Another smarter type was happy to meet me provided that I had Dove soap in the bathroom. Good for her skin and the scent that the hubby would get when she got home afterwards.
These are harder to score for the tourist but certainly on the menu for extended stays.
Paul.
I was seeing a Filipina who is heavily sponsored by an American who's been sending $1200 US a month for the last 2 years. When I was around I would stay at her house, drive her car, eat her cooking, have her maid do my laundry etc. Her sponsor always had priority though. I'the have to be quiet whenever he called or fuck off elsewhere whenever he was due to visit, I basically felt like the secret Pinoy boyfriend. I eventually had enough of being her plan be and ended it, causing a massive and prolonged emotional meltdown for her. Minimal contact ensued for almost 2 years until I rolled back into town a couple of weeks ago, she came to my hotel for a "catch up" and we were in my room fucking within 10 minutes.
Pretty sure there was a study that concluded when one partner was financially dependent on the other, it made them more likely to cheat. True in this case and many others.
Cheers.
Not quite stupid:
She's unlikely to have given up the pinoy dick while looking for the foreign boyfriend. When she does find one the pinoy will become the live in driver / gardner / cousin in their new house. Very convenient for the 48 weeks a year said BF is back home.
A few sponsors will certainly be providing allowances higher than a call girl salary and as you said it's zero effort and the guys are only in country a few weeks a year.
The belief that mixed kids are beautiful is quite common and often true throughout Asia. Many past Ms Universe representatives were Eurasian. The 2018 winner was Aussie / Philippine.
I've always said part time hookers are the most expensive root you can find. 😲.
Enjoy. G.
I was seeing a Filipina who is heavily sponsored by an American who's been sending $1200 US a month for the last 2 years. When I was around I would stay at her house, drive her car, eat her cooking, have her maid do my laundry etc. Her sponsor always had priority though. I'the have to be quiet whenever he called or fuck off elsewhere whenever he was due to visit, I basically felt like the secret Pinoy boyfriend. I eventually had enough of being her plan be and ended it, causing a massive and prolonged emotional meltdown for her. Minimal contact ensued for almost 2 years until I rolled back into town a couple of weeks ago, she came to my hotel for a "catch up" and we were in my room fucking within 10 minutes.
Pretty sure there was a study that concluded when one partner was financially dependent on the other, it made them more likely to cheat. True in this case and many others.
Cheers.Yeh, with hindsight, sometimes love / faithfulness, cannot be purchased.
The fact that you are a good fuck, most probably comes into play too, I suppose, LOL.
Not hard to imagine Sponsor being a lot older than you, and maybe a bit overweight. Sad scenario for Sponsor. Personally, I could not satisfy her needs at the expense of a fellow monger brother. Especially one who spends $1200 a month on her.
Which raises the question, are you the reader of this post, a Sponsor too? LOL.
Chocha Monger
10-09-19, 05:53
Yeh, with hindsight, sometimes love / faithfulness, cannot be purchased.
The fact that you are a good fuck, most probably comes into play too, I suppose, LOL.
Not hard to imagine Sponsor being a lot older than you, and maybe a bit overweight. Sad scenario for Sponsor. Personally, I could not satisfy her needs at the expense of a fellow monger brother. Especially one who spends $1200 a month on her.
Which raises the question, are you the reader of this post, a Sponsor too? LOL.A conscience is a hard thing to find in the Philippines, as taking advantage of the generous and soft is a way of life for the women. Ole Joe certainly learned that the hard way and ultimately paid for the lesson with his life. Conscience is something that Filipinas have no use for in their transactional romances with foreign mongers. They are not sucking old man cock out of altruistic feelings of love.
Sometimes a monger without conscience fucks the Filipinas without conscience, resulting in all kinds of interesting outcomes, tragedies, and maladies. Consider, for example, the case of one late large and very prodigious monger and wine list connoisseur who frequented Davao. In spite of his clubfoot, he managed to impregnate a large number of the local Bush women. He would scrub them up, dress them in silk dresses, and fete them on fine wine and food, bemoaning their lack of appreciation for a good wine list. While he sowed his raw oats without conscience, the local Bush women without conscience had the last laugh, as he was duped into thinking that another Western monger's bastard was his own and went to his pauper's grave believing this.
It appears that neither monger nor Filipina hooker can afford the expense of a conscience. LOL!
Steve Nash
10-09-19, 06:56
I consider these the exceptions that prove the rule. If they are western educated, and have spent more time in the US than some Americans, are they truly representative of the other 50,000,000 females in the Philippines?I couldn't disagree more!
I had met 100's of Filipinas here in Canada the last 8-9 years, and even thought they mostly came to Canada as a contract worker (live-in caregivers), they all got used to the western culture eventually, of course at first they were homesick (in the first 1-2 years) since many of them were here alone with no family. But at the end of year 3 when it was time to apply for a permanent resident they all were happy living here in Canada.
Some even didn't want to visit the Philippines again because they rather save money to buy a car or a house or save for a better life.
In my opinion they easily adapt to the Western Culture, maybe it helps that the city I live in (Toronto) is a multicultural city, maybe it helps that there are hundreds of thousands of Filipinos in this city (and close to 1 million here in Canada), maybe it helps that they have a FilipinoTown here (like a Chinatown), maybe it helps that they have 2 Jollibees here in the city (soon there will be 5 Jollibees), maybe it helps that the Filipinos are friendly and like to hangout in the many bars, karaokes, and Filipino nightclubs here, they like to make house parties / celebrations every month, and they never feel alone here in a Western country.
Steve Nash
10-09-19, 07:25
Yeh, with hindsight, sometimes love / faithfulness, cannot be purchased.
The fact that you are a good fuck, most probably comes into play too, I suppose, LOL.
Not hard to imagine Sponsor being a lot older than you, and maybe a bit overweight. Sad scenario for Sponsor. Personally, I could not satisfy her needs at the expense of a fellow monger brother. Especially one who spends $1200 a month on her.
Which raises the question, are you the reader of this post, a Sponsor too? LOL.It reminds me of a Filipina I met in Manila, I met her on my first trip (the trip I went with my ex), on my second trip she invited me to the condo of a German guy (he was young in his 30's, average looking guy), they became engage and she was at his condo taking care of the guy 3-4 yrs old kid. We had sex while the kid was at the other room on his eating table, the German even call while we were in the middle of the sex, they talk like 10 minutes while I was inside her, LOL.
Third trip she was pregnant from the German, she wanted to meet and have sex but I said NO. Fourth trip she finally convince me to meet her, she was living with her mom and baby in a condo the German guy was paying, she asked the mom to take care of her baby, I ordered pizza for them, and then we went to a short motel close by.
That was the last time we met, while we were in the motel the German guy called her and they even did a video call while I was hiding behind her, she was a good actress, LOL.
After that I found out that they got married after the baby was born and that's when I decided not to see her again, she is sexy and good in bed, but I don't mess with karma, I don't do married women.
Which raises the question, are you the reader of this post, a Sponsor too? LOL.The starting point in all of this is that the Filipina by nature of culture or situation find that they are rewarded for being unfaithful.
Something that we all need to remember.
Just make sure we find Filipinas with sponsors that do not read ISG.
I know of one guy in AC who is fucking and supporting my ex-GF (he is lucky). Meanwhile her sponsor is building her family a house. It will end in tears.
Wicked Roger
10-09-19, 09:55
the German even call while we were in the middle of the sex, they talk like 10 minutes while I was inside her, LOL.
while we were in the motel the German guy called her and they even did a video call while I was hiding behind her, she was a good actress, LOL..Had this with quire a few pinays.
One was chatting to her Japanese sponsor saying 'I love you baby' etc while I was doing her doggy, she sucked me in between also. Did this many times as he rarely visited but when he did she was there with him for 2 weeks and no communications.
Another time the pinay got a call on my laptop to her account and an American guy was whacking off to her playing with herself while was in the background. She would then say 'wait baby I need CR' and off cam we would shag and suck after which she went back to the camera LOL.
Just loved doing that and I found it great fun!
................ she was a good actress, LOL.Yes, I used to say "they should go to Hollywood". Anyway, smiley, friendly, entertaining they are. The negatives I ignore.
Mr Enternational
10-09-19, 16:28
Yes, I used to say "they should go to Hollywood". Anyway, smiley, friendly, entertaining they are. The negatives I ignore.It is not that they are good actresses, it is that a lot of guys are easily hypnotized.
Member #4667
10-09-19, 17:28
It is not that they are good actresses, it is that a lot of guys are easily hypnotized.Its often denied and men will say they are being gentlemen or some other lame excuse but most men especially when they sex starved or even female attention starved will do the most stupid things for that thing called a vagina, just look at the past few posts about send women money from overseas and look at the arguments to validate his action.
It is not that they are good actresses, it is that a lot of guys are easily hypnotized.Yes, there is a certain 'desperado' element in some of us. Great fun place if one does not get carried away. A problem some times if we lower our guard too much. Fun, fun, it is fun in Angeles (for me).
Steve Nash
10-09-19, 22:14
Had this with quire a few pinays.
One was chatting to her Japanese sponsor saying 'I love you baby' etc while I was doing her doggy, she sucked me in between also. Did this many times as he rarely visited but when he did she was there with him for 2 weeks and no communications.
Another time the pinay got a call on my laptop to her account and an American guy was whacking off to her playing with herself while was in the background. She would then say 'wait baby I need CR' and off cam we would shag and suck after which she went back to the camera LOL.
Just loved doing that and I found it great fun!Japanese businessmen are the worst, they will buy them a car, trips around Asia, expensive cellphones, jewellery, laptops, restaurant bills, luxury condos. I guess they do this because they are married back in their country so they need to pay BIG to keep happy their hot mistress. While us can fuck them for free, to be honest I don't mind sleeping with these girls, the foreigner boyfriend is married or have girls back home, so is fair for her to meet other guys.
But if they are just married and they have plans to live together in the future. I don't feel fine doing that, I will press the reject button if that was the case.
Mr Enternational
10-09-19, 23:01
I don't mind sleeping with these girls, the foreigner boyfriend is married or have girls back home, so is fair for her to meet other guys.
But if they are just married and they have plans to live together in the future. I don't feel fine doing that, I will press the reject button if that was the case.What is the difference? And all you know is what she tells you.
Wicked Roger
10-09-19, 23:14
But if they are just married and they have plans to live together in the future. I don't feel fine doing that, I will press the reject button if that was the case.For me and I suspect many others that adds extra spice to it LOL.
I feel like we are playing ourselves into a corner here. We chastise the Filipina for playing double on boyfriends but we detest if a Filipina does that to us.
In a way it makes me smile about women in the west. They judge married men for being unfaithful yet it is the very women's side that is also a participant in the dalliances.
In defense f the Filipina, and for us, at least ISG mongers understand the Filipina version of faithful.
PP.
What is the difference? And all you know is what she tells you.And all she knows is what you tell her, LOL.
Fun, fun, its fun in the Philippines.
Steve Nash
10-10-19, 00:16
What is the difference? And all you know is what she tells you.Well, when I was a younger immature college student I wouldn't care either, BUT I do care now. I believe in karma and about the phrase: "What goes around comes around".
I've seen a couple of friends getting bad karma the last two years, even after I warn them to stop cheating, lying and embarrassing their gfs, here in Canada BTW not in Philippines.
I'm not saying I'm a saint, I had done those things also, specially if you read my Trip Report on my first visit in the Philippines that I wrote 5+ years ago. BUT I'm more mature now and I don't do those things anymore.
That's why if I want to keep traveling to Philippines to change oil (like I always say), I don't have serious relationship back in my country anymore, I only have open relationships, and they all know what I will be doing in Philippines, so there won't be any lies.
I never been married by the way and I don't have any kids, but if I ever was married and I have a kid, I wouldn't like someone sleeping with my wife and destroying my family.
Destroying a family is in my NOT to do list now.
Steve Nash
10-10-19, 01:21
For me and I suspect many others that adds extra spice to it LOL.To me things I do that adds extra spice are:
- Having threesome in the balcony of my condo.
- Having public sex where there is a high risk of getting caught.
- Smoking weed and having sex (with loud music) in the balcony.
Well, for me those three things and other things that I don't remember right now adds extra spice on my trips to Philippines.
Also what WickedRoger said, about having sex while she is talking to her BF (that time he was just a BF), or even while talking to her mom (it happened with another girl also) that adds extra spice too.
By the way I'm not judging anyone, we are all different and we all have different life experiences.
Who knows maybe in the future if I ever get cheat on or someone destroy my family, then I will think differently, but I hope I don't, there are so many fishes in the sea to mess with karma.
Mr Enternational
10-10-19, 02:52
I never been married by the way and I don't have any kids, but if I ever was married and I have a kid, I wouldn't like someone sleeping with my wife and destroying my family.
Destroying a family is in my NOT to do list now.If you do ever get married, you will understand that adultery is the glue that holds marriages together! If it wasn't for the person that either partner kept on the side, they would have been broken up. When you can escape every now and then, it helps you stay with the partner.
Which raises the question, are you the reader of this post, a Sponsor too? LOL.Definitely not a sponsor, Pinays were the flavour of my life for a while and I like to read about others experiences too.
A conscience is a hard thing to find in the Philippines, as taking advantage of the generous and soft is a way of life for the women. Ole Joe certainly learned that the hard way and ultimately paid for the lesson with his life. Conscience is something that Filipinas have no use for in their transactional romances with foreign mongers. They are not sucking old man cock out of altruistic feelings of love.
Sometimes a monger without conscience fucks the Filipinas without conscience, resulting in all kinds of interesting outcomes, tragedies, and maladies. Consider, for example, the case of one late large and very prodigious monger and wine list connoisseur who frequented Davao. In spite of his clubfoot, he managed to impregnate a large number of the local Bush women. He would scrub them up, dress them in silk dresses, and fete them on fine wine and food, bemoaning their lack of appreciation for a good wine list. While he sowed his raw oats without conscience, the local Bush women without conscience had the last laugh, as he was duped into thinking that another Western monger's bastard was his own and went to his pauper's grave believing this.Couldn't help but LOL at this post!
If you do ever get married, you will understand that adultery is the glue that holds marriages together!Sad, but oh so true.
Confirms the old saying: "Variety is the spice of life". Ask any bar girl, she will tell you its true. One guy on here said he had "exclusivity" on a (Phil) girl. Not so, and not to be expected.
One girl asked me on more than one occasion "When are you coming back". I said not sure, but when I do, I will want a different girl, and, "we don't travel thousands of kilometres to have the same girl again".
We are mongers cause we like variety. Same woman, same street, for the rest of our lives? No thanks!
Engine Driver
10-10-19, 10:40
Japanese businessmen are the worst, they will buy them a car, trips around Asia, expensive cellphones, jewellery, laptops, restaurant bills, luxury condos. I guess they do this because they are married back in their country so they need to pay BIG to keep happy their hot mistress. While us can fuck them for free, to be honest I don't mind sleeping with these girls, the foreigner boyfriend is married or have girls back home, so is fair for her to meet other guys.
But if they are just married and they have plans to live together in the future. I don't feel fine doing that, I will press the reject button if that was the case.Having a Japanese mistress in Tokyo would cost the businessman $300 k a year. A Ginza apartment, clothes, shoes, handbags and a nice monthly allowance are not cheap. Whereas he can have a Pinay mistress for $15 k a year and she only wants rice for three meals a day and maybe some panty liners to start with. (Car comes after she learns how big a whale he is). So he figures it's a bargain at 5% of the cost.
If you do ever get married, you will understand that adultery is the glue that holds marriages together! If it wasn't for the person that either partner kept on the side, they would have been broken up. When you can escape every now and then, it helps you stay with the partner.This is true. During Carnival in Brasil married couples go their separate ways for a few days even a week no questions asked. I'm sure it saves a lot of marriages.
Pinaypounder
10-10-19, 22:06
Returning soon to PI and I like to read the forum, been reading and a member for almost 20 years.
Years ago we had actual field reports of men fucking women and reporting on it.
Now we have men who are old and well off and have been here for 15 to 20 years who are NOW telling all to just pay don't negotiate ha ha ha. Fuck you old guys.
I wonder to all you old men is this how you rolled 20 years ago? I bet that you negotiated hard back then when you had the energy.
I never overpay for anything, Cars, furniture, food and fucks. Why should I be different there?
I prefer to over fuck them and to focus on their pleasure and I am not to ugly and not to fat, I brush my teeth, shower, dress well, act well and maintain myself.
It is a benefit for most of them to fuck me because pinoy and Asian men in general are terrible fucks for the most part and eve though there are 10's of thousands of mongers in the country there are 10's of million of Filipinas to be fucked. And on any given day 70% of them can be fucked with a little game.
I also understand the difference between hot looking and a good fuck. I will take a good fuck over hot looking any day of the week. (they need to be attractive enough to generate an erection).
Treat them well, don't lie or hurt, have low expectations and negotiate. STOP FUCKING UP THE MARKET you old lazy ex fuckers.
Some "nice fool" here paid 3 different women 6. 5 each that he was too drunk to fuck. I assure you there is a province laughing at you and rightfully so.
Instead of overpaying prostitutes how about you donate 3 K of the 6. 5 K to an Orphanage if you want to save the world (And I do) The 3 k to an Orphanage goes a hell of allot further for the country than some overpaid hooker buying another pair of shoes.
Again treat them like equals and fuck the shit out of them respectfully. These girls or most of them truly enjoy bigger cocks which is why they like to fuck white guys with bigger cocks than Asian guys and to boot no one treats them worse than a Korean and pinoy men treat women like shit in general. Just be nice!
Call me racist if you like but those are reported facts!
That's how I roll and I get laid as much as anyone on this board when I am there and I fuck many of them here in Canada.
PP.
Sad, but oh so true.
Confirms the old saying: "Variety is the spice of life". Ask any bar girl, she will tell you its true. One guy on here said he had "exclusivity" on a (Phil) girl. Not so, and not to be expected.
One girl asked me on more than one occasion "When are you coming back". I said not sure, but when I do, I will want a different girl, and, "we don't travel thousands of kilometres to have the same girl again".
We are mongers cause we like variety. Same woman, same street, for the rest of our lives? No thanks!Not always true. Sometimes we keep them as a back up in case unable to find new ones to our liking. There is always a chance new one does not rock your boat.
There are some girls who stray and others who do not. But that is no reason to support her lifestyle. Long time ago I Am guilty of supporting girls to keep them. But at that time I used to visit 10 times a year and sometimes staying three weeks.
If you do ever get married, you will understand that adultery is the glue that holds marriages together! If it wasn't for the person that either partner kept on the side, they would have been broken up. When you can escape every now and then, it helps you stay with the partner.Some couples esp those which little sexual experience stay together for a long time and are monogamous. BUT if you have "played the field" when you are young. Yes you might find the one but I think its in your nature and the inbuilt drive of men to seek out new sexual partners. This is what Western women don't understand but many Asian ladies do. Just like most women have an inbuilt motherly nature most men have an inbuilt seek and conquer mentality. I know of many Asian lady / Western man relationships whereby the man wanders and the lady probably knows it but as long as he comes home and doesn't shove it in her face and looks after the family and her all are happy.
Not always true. Sometimes we keep them as a back up in case unable to find new ones to our liking.Ha ha, not me, "hit and run, hit and run". Way to go!
Mr Enternational
10-11-19, 01:59
I know of many Asian lady / Western man relationships whereby the man wanders and the lady probably knows it but as long as he comes home and doesn't shove it in her face and looks after the family and her all are happy.Nah, the reason she doesn't say anything is because she has been out fucking guys like me!
Mr Enternational
10-11-19, 02:05
These girls or most of them truly enjoy bigger cocks which is why they like to fuck white guys with bigger cocks than Asian guys.I am Black. Where do I fit in to this cock equation?
I am Black. Where do I fit in to this cock equation?Ha ha, had a chuckle at that.
The cock equations that I know of say the girls are a bit afraid of black men cause their cocks are too big!
You never hear of the girls complaining about those who pay too much. I agree with PinayPounder, they laugh behind the big spenders back. There was one guy on this forum who had 7 girls in his room and paid Pesos 50,000 for the benefit. Apparently PP did not see that post. Red rag to a bull.
Big cocks, small cocks, big money, small money. Doesn't matter, so long as, in your mind, you got value.
When they see PinayPounder walking down the street, they will all rush to hide in the toilets! LOL.
"Sorry, I cannot barfine tonight, just got pounded by PP" , LOL.
Incognito Mode
10-11-19, 06:44
Returning soon to PI and I like to read the forum, been reading and a member for almost 20 years.
Years ago we had actual field reports of men fucking women and reporting on it.
Now we have men who are old and well off and have been here for 15 to 20 years who are NOW telling all to just pay don't negotiate ha ha ha. Fuck you old guys.
I wonder to all you old men is this how you rolled 20 years ago? I bet that you negotiated hard back then when you had the energy.
I never overpay for anything, Cars, furniture, food and fucks. Why should I be different there?
I prefer to over fuck them and to focus on their pleasure and I am not to ugly and not to fat, I brush my teeth, shower, dress well, act well and maintain myself.
It is a benefit for most of them to fuck me because pinoy and Asian men in general are terrible fucks for the most part and eve though there are 10's of thousands of mongers in the country there are 10's of million of Filipinas to be fucked. And on any given day 70% of them can be fucked with a little game..I must say that I concur 100%.
I'm not a rich man with money to burn, I work hard for the little that I have and want my money to stretch as far as I can make it go, but I also want to be fair. Have a little fun with a girl as well as just fuck her silly. Treat her right and she will treat you right! Enjoy fellas!
Nah, the reason she doesn't say anything is because she has been out fucking guys like me!Once again. One of a kind.
Chocha Monger
10-11-19, 07:16
Nah, the reason she doesn't say anything is because she has been out fucking guys like me!Correct. The Asian wives are out getting their fuck on while hubby is out mongering. That is the real reason she does not make a fuss. Only a numbskull would believe that they are faithfully suffering in silence patiently awaiting the return of their monger husband. Filipinas are happy when the old husband goes off to SEA mongering because it gives them an opportunity to fuck all the virile handsome young men back in his country.
Engine Driver
10-11-19, 12:10
I am Black. Where do I fit in to this cock equation?I think you go straight to the top of the food chain.
DogManDoofus
10-11-19, 12:18
I am Black. Where do I fit in to this cock equation?Apex Predator? LOL.
Chocha Monger
10-12-19, 14:56
Ha ha, had a chuckle at that.
The cock equations that I know of say the girls are a bit afraid of black men cause their cocks are too big!
You never hear of the girls complaining about those who pay too much. I agree with PinayPounder, they laugh behind the big spenders back. There was one guy on this forum who had 7 girls in his room and paid Pesos 50,000 for the benefit. Apparently PP did not see that post. Red rag to a bull.
Big cocks, small cocks, big money, small money. Doesn't matter, so long as, in your mind, you got value.
When they see PinayPounder walking down the street, they will all rush to hide in the toilets! LOL.
"Sorry, I cannot barfine tonight, just got pounded by PP" , LOL.The girls are fascinated with black mega cock and vie for the honor of being pounded by one. They grab their snatches and scream in ecstasy when the mega BBC enters the bars because they know things are going to get wild like a tiger in the jungle. Remember, girls in AC get their pussies worn out like a set of race car tires. Hence, they need increasingly bigger cocks to make them feel anything at all. Eventually, they only truly enjoy apex monster cock. Sadly, after a tour of duty in an AC bar, the girls' pussies are stretched out and will never regain their original grip.
Pinaypounder
10-12-19, 15:25
Apex Predator? LOL.Why don't you tell us where you fit in?
PP.
Why don't you tell us where you fit in? PP.Well, there is the Pinoy / Korean size, the 'European' size, and the African American size. Choose your weapon. Penis extensions are available to those with the cash.
Filipinas are lazy by nature and thus prefer the "easy money" provided by small penises and quick jerk off's, supplied by you know who. Exception: the hard core bar girl, working in the bar for years, lots of penis entries, fair number of kids. They seek out the big dicks.
I am too ashamed to admit which category I belong to, but I get a lot of fucks, considering my age. Easy money? I will leave it to you, LOL.
Chocha Monger
10-13-19, 19:11
Well, there is the Pinoy / Korean size, the 'European' size, and the African American size. Choose your weapon. Penis extensions are available to those with the cash.
Filipinas are lazy by nature and thus prefer the "easy money" provided by small penises and quick jerk off's, supplied by you know who. Exception: the hard core bar girl, working in the bar for years, lots of penis entries, fair number of kids. They seek out the big dicks.
I am too ashamed to admit which category I belong to, but I get a lot of fucks, considering my age. Easy money? I will leave it to you, LOL.Frankly, I am rogue elephant class, and I have pounded Filipinas in every snatch category from tight fresh clams to ran-thru subway tunnels. Since the girls always get the cream pie and the occasional trike fare, they get the most out of the sex.
Pinaypounder
10-15-19, 13:32
Frankly, I am rogue elephant class, and I have pounded Filipinas in every snatch category from tight fresh clams to ran-thru subway tunnels. Since the girls always get the cream pie and the occasional trike fare, they get the most out of the sex.I can only recall 2 of about 175 Filipinas where I could not reach the bottom or walls. On the flip side several has physically denied entry and a few have bled so badly I paid for new sheets. The pussy is a useful appendage able to recover and shrink back.
I mostly screw Amateurs and the occasional Pro Am. The Amateurs love a man that actually pays attention to their needs and almost every amateur will take a big cock over a small cock. This goes for all races of women I think.
The pros are lazy and now the prices are so high they don't need to work as much this is my experience from my last couple of trips to LA Cafe. When I bartered they would laugh (good work men) and I would not cave. Its worse in BKK I was chatting a Pro Am in a cafe we got along I was closing the deal and she wanted 12 K are you fucking kidding, I laughed and walked away 12 k is at least 6 fucks and unless that pussy came with an 8 inch tongue to caress my balls it was just a Thai pussy.
I think there is also and inverse correlation between high pro am price and the quality of the fuck. The higher the price the worse the fuck.
I also think there is an inverse correlation between how hot they act in the bar versus how poor they act in the sack.
Work the dating sites and you will find allot of women to date and fuck, just don't lie to them most of them just want a night out be nice and respectful and you have a shag for years.
Your thoughts?
PP.
Work the dating sites and you will find allot of women to date and fuck, just don't lie to them most of them just want a night out be nice and respectful and you have a shag for years.
Your thoughts?
PP.Have to agree. I am getting more sex that I was twenty years ago and the girls I get are always 20 years younger than me. For me, being respectful is the key. The shy girl that loves sex wants to know she isn't going to get R'p'd.
I found this youtube useful in improving my non-pro game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cQoGNEcc5Q.
PP.
Engine Driver
10-17-19, 04:20
First sorry for my autocorrect from iPhone. I'm there in September not December.
You are right IG is not popular on Philippines like for white advertising bitches in Europe.
But some cute pinays do a great job there with sexy beach or surfing pics.
I just look for the hashtags and local girls, and like in Thailand they are answering me.
They don't seem to be working girls. Just local girls interested in white guys like on so many other islands.
I just make an appointment with one of these girls for show me around the island and have some drinks at night.
I am 29 years old, maybe that's also a reason.What you are doing is plain wrong. It should be outlawed. It's grossly unfair and upsets the natural order of things. You see, the Philippines is a mongering zone for people over 50 only. It is not a place for privileged white guys in their 20's. The reason why fat old farts go to the Philippines is because they can't get a root back home. We don't need young whippersnappers like you competing in our territory as you can get all the blonde chicky babes you want in your home country.
Look at me. Despite my David Coulthard jaw line, rock hard abs and six pack and rogue elephant size schlong, I can't get any action in my home country. My soot covered bib overalls and engineers cap might have something to do with it as well. But in the Philippines, the chicks don't care. They love me. I don't need you to come ruin the party for me.
The only chicks I can't get in the Philippines are those obscenely wealthy, highly educated, sophisticated, chic Chinese-Fil babes in Davao City. Even after spending thousands of dollars on bottles of Chataeu Lafite Rothschild to drink with them in air conditioned comfort, I am no closer to sniffing their hiso panties or tasting the chocolate notes from their dates. Maybe I will try to woo them with a few duck eggs and coffee mugs. My soot covered bib overalls and engineers cap might have something to do with it as well.
PedroMorales
10-17-19, 09:46
The only chicks I can't get in the Philippines are those obscenely wealthy, highly educated, sophisticated, chic Chinese-Fil babes in Davao City. Even after spending thousands of dollars on bottles of Chataeu Lafite Rothschild to drink with them in air conditioned comfort, I am no closer to sniffing their hiso panties or tasting the chocolate notes from their dates. Maybe I will try to woo them with a few duck eggs and coffee mugs. My soot covered bib overalls and engineers cap might have something to do with it as well.Ya got to have game. Chataeu Lafite Rothschild in the wrong setting slows the game down. Sitting with a load of Chinese geriatrics and waiters who think they are extras on the Titanic is not the way to go. Imagine you are playing football, any variety, and you are assing about with Chinese who wouldn't know a good Chataeu Lafite Rothschild from Sicilian vinegar trike drivers have bathed their feet in. You are going to get taken. You have to look like you are Jake LaMotta, Raging Bull, who would ravage the entire barangay before a good breakfast of Chataeu Lafite Rothschild in a mug and duck eggs with salt to go. The babe has to think the 101st Airborne have just taken a short cut through her legs.
Admittedly, that game gets harder with time. Another is to just play the jackal, deftly picking up meat others leave behind.
What you are doing is plain wrong. It should be outlawed. It's grossly unfair and upsets the natural order of things. You see, the Philippines is a mongering zone for people over 50 only. It is not a place for privileged white guys in their 20's. The reason why fat old farts go to the Philippines is because they can't get a root back home. We don't need young whippersnappers like you competing in our territory as you can get all the blonde chicky babes you want in your home country.I remember a poster not so long ago: young military guy that understandably wanted to blow off some steam after being deployed. Everyone was giving him advice on where to get laid. I think the only advice a buff young dude would need roaming beaches full of pinas would be how not to drown in all that pussy. 😁 👍.
Hope he had a good time.
G.
PedroMorales
10-17-19, 22:51
I find a few baluts, with the right amount of salt, followed by some finely chopped durian, works wonders. The wenches I target like that controversial fruit (I find it boring). They like to sit around, munch on their durian (my dime), look middle class (I'm down with that), chill, talk girlie Tagalog stuff (I'm cool). The Chataeu Lafite Rothschild is not quite the jemmy there though, tbf, the old reliable of Red Horse does not work too well either. It is a waiting game, to see if they want to continue the middle class charade or to let their legs do a good impression of an Open Sesame pair of scissors.
Although I am partial to Chataeu Lafite Rothschild and I have a deep-seated affinity with Spanish reds, I have yet to find a wine that goes well with durian, pag pag or any other Pinoy dish. They like their frying oil more than East Glasgow does. The Chataeu Lafite Rothschild, I feel, is best kept for oneself and to hell with the kneeling squawks.
One more thing. I read alarming reports here of feeding the ladies costing more than bar fining them. That just shows how insane folk are. You must control your pet and never over feed it. Mary Poppins is Hollywood. A half a bowl of rice, a few sardines a week, and a thimble full of Chataeu Lafite Rothschild to wash it all down. They will thank you for it.
Engine Driver
10-18-19, 03:36
I find a few baluts, with the right amount of salt, followed by some finely chopped durian, works wonders. The wenches I target like that controversial fruit (I find it boring). They like to sit around, munch on their durian (my dime), look middle class (I'm down with that), chill, talk girlie Tagalog stuff (I'm cool). The Chataeu Lafite Rothschild is not quite the jemmy there though, tbf, the old reliable of Red Horse does not work too well either. It is a waiting game, to see if they want to continue the middle class charade or to let their legs do a good impression of an Open Sesame pair of scissors.
Although I am partial to Chataeu Lafite Rothschild and I have a deep-seated affinity with Spanish reds, I have yet to find a wine that goes well with durian, pag pag or any other Pinoy dish. They like their frying oil more than East Glasgow does. The Chataeu Lafite Rothschild, I feel, is best kept for oneself and to hell with the kneeling squawks.
One more thing. I read alarming reports here of feeding the ladies costing more than bar fining them. That just shows how insane folk are. You must control your pet and never over feed it. Mary Poppins is Hollywood. A half a bowl of rice, a few sardines a week, and a thimble full of Chataeu Lafite Rothschild to wash it all down. They will thank you for it.I agree the Glaswegians love their cooking oil or lard. Their local delicacy of deep fried Mars bars certainly put Britain on the culinary map.
Just tell me when the trike drivers in AC start bathing their feet in Chateau Lafite Rothschild. I will then know to immediately quit the Philippines. Just like when the bell hop at the ABC Hotel discusses monetary policy and long term bond yields, you know it's time to liquidate your stocks.
Well I am a bit surprised today to look up an old flame on Facebook only to see her relationship status is now Married, lots of wedding pics. I am just amazed at the speed at which a Filipina can go from zero relationship status to being married off. This one is a little different as she is over 30 years old and without any kids, never previously married. So I guess really she is a good catch. Undamaged body and educated. Very religious and believes in her faith.
I am even more surprised that my immediate reaction isn't to get online and see if I can get her into bed again. I genuinely think she might make a go of her marriage.
Should I contact her and wish her good luck? Or just leave that until a week before I land back into Clark.
They really are the marrying and the unfaithful types.
PP.
Well I am a bit surprised today to look up an old flame on Facebook only to see her relationship status is now Married, lots of wedding pics. I am just amazed at the speed at which a Filipina can go from zero relationship status to being married off. This one is a little different as she is over 30 years old and without any kids, never previously married. So I guess really she is a good catch. Undamaged body and educated. Very religious and believes in her faith.
I am even more surprised that my immediate reaction isn't to get online and see if I can get her into bed again. I genuinely think she might make a go of her marriage.
Should I contact her and wish her good luck? Or just leave that until a week before I land back into Clark.
They really are the marrying and the unfaithful types.
PP.Respect her marriage. Leave her alone entirely.
If you must worm your way in then I would like to see you arrested and locked up. Just so you can write about the details of the arrest, jail and consequences as a learning experience for the rest of us.
Respect her marriage. Leave her alone entirely.
If you must worm your way in then I would like to see you arrested and locked up. Just so you can write about the details of the arrest, jail and consequences as a learning experience for the rest of us.Yes, leave her alone, they do not get many opportunities to access the 'good life'.
You have a choice of many thousands, she might only have this one choice.
Bad karma will follow you, if you stick your nose / dick in there, LOL.
Mr Enternational
10-21-19, 21:27
Should I contact her and wish her good luck? Or just leave that until a week before I land back into Clark.Hit her up and ask her if she has been cheating on you. Don't make your own narrative from pictures that you have seen on the internet. Get the story from the horse's mouth. And even then the horse still may not care. Could be a sham marriage or marriage of convenience.
As I write this a chick that I used to mess with in the Dominican Republic just hit me up. She said she is married and pregnant now. I told her that I will believe she is pregnant, but I will not believe she is married until she shows me some government paperwork. Then she tries to show me a picture with her man but she has the supposed wedding ring on the wrong hand. I said nevermind all of that; when are we going to fuck? She said when are you coming? She told me to wait til after she has the baby. I told her I can not because I want to skeet on her baby's head.
Should I contact her and wish her good luck? Or just leave that until a week before I land back into Clark.
They really are the marrying and the unfaithful types.
PP.Contact her immediately and offer her the going rate and the likelihood is that she will jump at your offer because as you said these girls are indeed the "unfaithful types. " Moreover the overwhelming majority of these marriages are the result of convenience and not entered into with the sincere matrimonial commitment we have back in the real world.
Mr Enternational
10-21-19, 22:04
Contact her immediately and offer her the going rateWhen did he ever say she was a hooker?
WestCoast1
10-22-19, 12:03
Yes, leave her alone, they do not get many opportunities to access the 'good life'.
Respect her marriage. Leave her alone entirely.Good advice, leave her alone. If you weren't in love, don't butt-in-ski. If you were in love, you have lost this one.
If you must worm your way in then I would like to see you arrested and locked up. Just so you can write about the details of the arrest, jail and consequences as a learning experience for the rest of us. Ouch. We don't lock up gents for being a cad.
Good advice, leave her alone. If you weren't in love, don't butt-in-ski. If you were in love, you have lost this one.
Ouch. We don't lock up gents for being a cad.According to many posters here, in the Philippines it is against the law to be fucking someone's wife. It carries jail time.
WestCoast1
10-22-19, 17:12
According to many posters here, in the Philippines it is against the law to be fucking someone's wife. It carries jail time.Yes, but post-conviction. And rue the thought, many of us might be in jail for unknowingly doing the deed. How many gogo bargirls are married?
WestCoast1
10-22-19, 20:06
Well I am a bit surprised today to look up an old flame on Facebook only to see her relationship status is now Married, lots of wedding pics. I am just amazed at the speed at which a Filipina can go from zero relationship status to being married off. A related and re-telling of a similar marriage for a pinay some years back. The first part of it goes like this:
1) I knew a young provincial cutie from the Internet only, for 2 years; we communicated in the old YM. 2) Once in Manila, I told her what hotel I was staying at. In the evening, uninvited, she showed up with her sister, mom, and tita. 3) Thru a sad story, the tita said that I could keep the girl for any period of time I liked, and could I please return her on the bus to the province with some 'help' for the family sob story (pawned bike). 4) I kept the girl. She didn't care for BJ so much, but she just LOVED f*ckiing; I was having her left and right. 5) I let her come to the airport with me to see me off on a Saturday, giving her the amount her family needed; all had gone as expected.
Then the guard rails came off the thing. The following Saturday (Phils time) she hit me up in YM for a few thousand pesos for a party. I declined. A few days later, her YM profile image had changed to one where she was wearing a wedding dress and sitting in the lap of an older (late 60's, grey haired) white guy. I inquired. Seems she got married Saturday evening, the same day she asked for the pesos. WTF weren't we having sex a week or so prior? Seems also she left me at the departure area and then went to the arrivals area to wait for the other inbound gringo (her fiance), whilst my seed was still warm and dripping inside her. They spent the week together and got married the following Saturday evening.
The guard rails continued (for her) to come off. The gent flew home to his country and did not tell family that he'd gotten married. Over some months he distanced himself from her, and he dropped the relationship completely. She and the fam were upset.
Did the girl (or her tita) ever mention to me the inbound fiance? Nah. So in answer to Paul's inquiry of how fast a Filipina can go from zerio relationship status to married: Pretty effing fast (or alternately the same amount of time necessary to go from NAIA Departures to Arrival areas).
PedroMorales
10-22-19, 22:39
As a great believer in bonking hiso hos in between bottles of Chateau Lafite Rothschild and similar plonk, I was delighted, in a perverse way, to see this "soldier" get the Order of the Boot. On behalf of myself, the Thai Royal Family and Mongering Royalty everywhere, let me spell out some simple truths:
1. The Monger, whether Prince, Pope or Pauper, must be captain of his ship. Women are there for us and nothing else.
2. Although the woman had the correct servile position, bowing, salaaming and so on, this was obviously an act. Do not get beguiled by the tinsel.
3. The King cut his losses. Once the King knew I was 3 holing her, he gave her the Buddhist equivalent of the wrath of Cain. Proper order too.
4. No matter what your station, never, ever let a ho rise above hers. As that is T-are-O-you-be-L-E.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50134690
Did the girl (or her tita) ever mention to me the inbound fiance? Nah. So in answer to Paul's inquiry of how fast a Filipina can go from zerio relationship status to married: Pretty effing fast (or alternately the same amount of time necessary to go from NAIA Departures to Arrival areas).These are good experiences that everyone is sharing.
I have been to a few weddings in Ph of girls that I have dated prior to their wedding. Marriage in Ph seems to be more malleable and forgiving than it is in the west. I'm sure there are quite a few that we don't know about, hubby is OFW in the middle east and mother has to make ends meet. It's God's way.
Anyway, my little newly married friend I did not meet her as a bg in AC, she never worked like that in AC. I met her at her legitimate work, dated once without sex, once with her friend (who left when the lights when darker) and a few more times over 6 months. A conscientious mature student, focused on study and results. Like all filiina, when the body clock strikes 30 they will marry.
While I have not contacted her, I have added her sister (23 years old) on FB. At least I can keep things in the family.
PP.
Steve Nash
10-29-19, 23:15
Question about Vasectomy. I just had my sperm stored in a sperm bank so I can use it in the future (more likely before I turn 45), so I will be having a vasectomy done next week.
My question is to the guys here who had vasectomy done and had sex without condoms, what are the chances of me getting HIV or STD?
BTW, consider that I only have sex with normal girls, NOT with pros or semi pros or sluts (girls who sleep for fun), I'm just talking about normal girls who have a career or are hard-workers (with regular jobs not sex-work) or college students or just graduated, with no experience with foreigners. So basically uncorrupted goodhearted honest filipinas.
The reason I ask is because I heard there is an epidemic HIV infection in the Philippines, I know most of them infected are gays, sex workers (or semi pros), and drug users. But I'm afraid that maybe afew of those normal filipinas may also have it. What are the chances of those type of girls been infected of those diseases?
Before that, in all my trips to Phils, I will always wear condom, and once I knew the girl pretty well I will use the pull-out method, then back home every year I will get STD test done right away since I don't want to pass any diseases to my partner at that moment.
Should I keep doing that? Or I'm safe since the girls I have sex with are good normal girls.
I rather do bareback, plus I want to take advantage of the Vasectomy.
Mr Enternational
10-30-19, 00:32
My question is to the guys here who had vasectomy done and had sex without condoms, what are the chances of me getting HIV or STD?
BTW, consider that I only have sex with normal girls, NOT with pros or semi pros or sluts (girls who sleep for fun), I'm just talking about normal girls who have a career or are hard-workers (with regular jobs not sex-work) or college students or just graduated, with no experience with foreigners. So basically uncorrupted goodhearted honest filipinas.LOL. Are you fucking kidding yourself or what? Would these happen to be the same normal girls that I have been fucking all these years as well? The only STD (if you call it that) that I have ever gotten was the crabs when I was in college and delivering pizzas for Domino's (knock on wood. Yeah the pizza guy thing is real!) So if you think a chick has to be a hard core hooker in order to pass a disease off to you, well... experience is the best teacher.
When I was in Navy bootcamp they showed us a film on STD day. There was a naked picture of this fine ass blond chick. All of us hard up guys were cheering, until it was revealed that she had herpes! A disease does not care who passes it around or who it is received by.
As far as HIV, that is really hard to receive by a male when he is having vaginal sex with a female. That is a "bloody" disease, meaning you have to mix blood to get it. Dick and ass skin get small tears when dicks and asses are being put together and generally the disease is passed on that way.
By the way, I just went to the doctor the other day for an annual checkup. She said the last time I had an HIV test was in 2017. So she had me do one that day and said I would not need to take another one from here on out. No idea what was up with that. Was she saying that if I have not gotten it by now, then I am invincible to it or something?
Steve Nash
10-30-19, 01:50
LOL. Are you fucking kidding yourself or what? Would these happen to be the same normal girls that I have been fucking all these years as well? The only STD (if you call it that) that I have ever gotten was the crabs when I was in college and delivering pizzas for Domino's (knock on wood. Yeah the pizza guy thing is real!) So if you think a chick has to be a hard core hooker in order to pass a disease off to you, well... experience is the best teacher.I doubt they are the same girls, once I find out she met foreigners before I don't sleep with them, I had a hottie who said to me that she never met foreigners before, then when she show me her real facebook and I scroll down, I saw her pics with 3 different foreigners, she keep telling me they were just friends they never had sex, I'm like in my mind: Yeah right! So I told her you know how much I hate lies, stop lying to me, is OK if you had sex with them I have no problem with that, I just hate lairs, so she started crying and confess that she had sex with 2 of them, I felt bad for her, but I had to stop seeing her, I told her we can still be friends but not sex. The thing is if in 10 minutes I was able to find 3 foreigners she met in the last year, how many foreigners did she met the last 5 years if I search deeper. I know lots of Filipinas lie, but with experience (in this case my own experience with Filipinas and their culture) you get to know who is honest and who is not in a face to face conversation.
When I was in Navy bootcamp they showed us a film on STD day. There was a naked picture of this fine ass blond chick. All of us hard up guys were cheering, until it was revealed that she had herpes! A disease does not care who passes it around or who it is received by.I know anybody can get STD, that's why I always use condom the first few times I have sex until I know them very well. BUT to be honest I'm more worry about the HIV epidemic.
As far as HIV, that is really hard to receive by a male when he is having vaginal sex with a female. That is a "bloody" disease, meaning you have to mix blood to get it. Dick and ass skin get small tears when dicks and asses are being put together and generally the disease is passed on that way.I didn't know this info, I didn't know you can not get it by vaginal sex, so if someone has HIV she can not pass it to me by vaginal sex? (not blood involved).
About anal, my favourite one, but hard to convince a good filipina girl to do it, I guess I can live without it, I mostly ask for anal to girls who have nice rounded ass, many pinays I met have that, is easier to find a filipina with a nice rounded ass than to find a filipina with big natural boobs.
By the way, I just went to the doctor the other day for an annual checkup. She said the last time I had an HIV test was in 2017. So she had me do one that day and said I would not need to take another one from here on out. No idea what was up with that. Was she saying that if I have not gotten it by now, then I am invincible to it or something?I hate it when I want to get a HIV test done and all they care to ask is if I had sex with a male, I say not of course but what about the men who have anal sex with women, I always had to say that (even if I didn't do that that time), and it also helps to mention that I been in a country where there is an epidemic of HIV, plus I show them an article of a study about Call Center employees having HIV in Phils, lots of work for straight men just to get an HIV test done, but the gays can easily get that test done, discrimination the way I see it!
About anal, my favourite one, but hard to convince a good filipina girl to do it, IWell instead of trying to convert the "good" Filipina try dating the bad Filipina. They are much more open.
In AC I had one FL whom would like to offer me her ass when she was on the reds. I call that service.
Wicked Roger
10-30-19, 11:57
I doubt they are the same girls, once I find out she met foreigners before I don't sleep with them, I had a hottie who said to me that she never met foreigners before, then when she show me her real facebook and I scroll down, I saw her pics with 3 different foreigners, she keep telling me they were just friends they never had sex, I'm like in my mind: Yeah right! So I told her you know how much I hate lies, stop lying to me, is OK if you had sex with them I have no problem with that, I just hate lairs, so she started crying and confess that she had sex with 2 of them, I felt bad for her, but I had to stop seeing her, I told her we can still be friends but not sex. The thing is if in 10 minutes I was able to find 3 foreigners she met in the last year, how many foreigners did she met the last 5 years if I search deeper. I know lots of Filipinas lie, but with experience (in this case my own experience with Filipinas and their culture) you get to know who is honest and who is not in a face to face conversation.Simple question? Why do you bother visiting as those you chat with have all had foreigners inside them, some all holes! So why bother?
I suggest you may have more luck with a convent (even in the Philippines) or Canada where it seems you are bawd.
Do you have the same rule for pinays in Canada as you did say you were banging one there (or was it more).
But to think you never play with a girl who has had an foreigner is a tad naive as they had pinoys so then what do you do LOL.
But to think you never play with a girl who has had an foreigner is a tad naive as they had pinoys so then what do you do LOL.That is what I was thinking as well. Pinoys get around as much as foriegners, if not more. They are famous for their hit and run tactics. Also, the health care available to them is not as good as the West. Not a comment on the Doctors, but most of them simply can't afford it. So they are spreading that stuff around, bareback, because condoms are taboo with the Filipino Catholic culture. And Pinays love sex; as someone quoted on the AC thread, the only virgins in the country are currently being born in the hospital.
Finally, do a google search on HIV. You can transmit and receive HIV through vaginal sex.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-the-risk-of-hiv-from-vaginal-sex-4138626&ved=2ahUKEwjd05GCocTlAhVjhuAKHSZiB4sQFjALegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw1GxNGIGkudFKRUuntOerBM&cshid=1572448165862
And Mr E is techinically incorrect. HIV is a fluid disease, not a blood disease. You can give it to a girl by shooting your infected load in her.
Nice Guy 99
10-30-19, 16:59
Finally, do a google search on HIV. You can transmit and receive HIV through vaginal sex.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-the-risk-of-hiv-from-vaginal-sex-4138626&ved=2ahUKEwjd05GCocTlAhVjhuAKHSZiB4sQFjALegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw1GxNGIGkudFKRUuntOerBM&cshid=1572448165862
And to complete your education, read this:
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/prep/index.html
HIV can be largely prevented.
And to complete your education, read this:
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/prep/index.html
HIV can be largely prevented.The cost for a 30-day supply is about $2000 US. Call me a Cheap Charlie, but I'll stick to condoms.
PedroMorales
10-30-19, 20:03
The cost for a 30-day supply is about $2000 US. Call me a Cheap Charlie, but I'll stick to condoms.Also check out the side effects to your liver and so on. The idea of nuking my body once a day does not cut it for me.
WestCoast1
10-31-19, 00:30
But to think you never play with a girl who has had an foreigner is a tad naive as they had pinoys so then what do you do LOL.I'm with Roger.
I doubt they are the same girls, once I find out she met foreigners before I don't sleep with them, This is troubling, considering its a dichotomy (or hypocrisy, see your quote below). Once you find out she's sleeping with other foreigners? Isn't it too late at that point? If you got fooled by one pinay (haha haven't we all? Don't we understand that's part of the game). There's a good chance you've been fooled by others (if not the vast majority). Pinay honesty is not exactly legendary; the girls are extremely opportunisitic (I think we've documented that over and over).
I had a hottie who said to me that she never met foreigners before, then when she show me her real facebook and I scroll down, I saw her pics with 3 different foreigners, she keep telling me they were just friends they never had sex, I'm like in my mind: Yeah right! So I told her you know how much I hate lies, stop lying to me, is OK if you had sex with them I have no problem with that, I just hate lairs, so she started crying and confess that she had sex with 2 of them, I felt bad for her, but I had to stop seeing her, I told her we can still be friends but not sex. The thing is if in 10 minutes I was able to find 3 foreigners she met in the last year, how many foreigners did she met the last 5 years if I search deeper. If she tells you that she's not sleeping with other foreigners, there's not only a good chance she's not telling the truth, she is also not mentioning her pinoy boyfie (or pinoy sex partners). Jesus de Christo.
I know lots of Filipinas lie, but with experience (in this case my own experience with Filipinas and their culture) you get to know who is honest and who is not in a face to face conversation.I don't think so (I could be wrong). I'm with Roger. I know that sounds very "CM-ish", but I'm sticking with it.
I'm with Roger.
This is troubling, considering its a dichotomy (or hypocrisy, see your quote below). Once you find out she's sleeping with other foreigners? Isn't it too late at that point? If you got fooled by one pinay (haha haven't we all? Don't we understand that's part of the game). There's a good chance you've been fooled by others (if not the vast majority). Pinay honesty is not exactly legendary; the girls are extremely opportunisitic (I think we've documented that over and over).
If she tells you that she's not sleeping with other foreigners, there's not only a good chance she's not telling the truth, she is also not mentioning her pinoy boyfie (or pinoy sex partners). Jesus de Christo.
I don't think so (I could be wrong). I'm with Roger. I know that sounds very "CM-ish", but I'm sticking with it.Everyone has their own taste and Steve is welcome to his. However, when I'm in town, I'm there for great sex, not to provide training. I recognize that for girls to know their way around a bedroom, she has developed that through experience, not sitting at home with her legs crossed. There are many things that foreigners prefer that pinoys don't (eg long extended sessions) so if some of that experience has been tasting white meat, all the better.
I've had many memorable nights with hard core hookers that have been around the block many times. Some I was lucky to survive the encounter but what a night. 😁.
The same can be said for the sweet girls next door types: some experience helps the flow of the night a lot vs a girl who just lays there because she doesn't know what to do.
Again, each to their own so enjoy what ever your preferance is.
G.
Mr Enternational
10-31-19, 02:38
If she tells you that she's not sleeping with other foreigners, there's not only a good chance she's not telling the truth, she is also not mentioning her pinoy boyfie (or pinoy sex partners). Jesus de Christo.You mean the same way I do them? When me and my girlfriend in Manila finished fucking the other day she asked me if I had any other girls. Of course not babe, you know better than that. I have been telling her yes for so long but she keeps asking the same damn question, so finally I am learning to tell her what she wants to hear. Sometimes you have to play politics instead of being honest.
You mean the same way I do them? When me and my girlfriend in Manila finished fucking the other day she asked me if I had any other girls. Of course not babe, you know better than that. I have been telling her yes for so long but she keeps asking the same damn question, so finally I am learning to tell her what she wants to hear. Sometimes you have to play politics instead of being honest.Here they will always say what they think you want to hear. Doesn't matter what the question is, if they think you want to hear that they never have been with a expat, they will say so, same thing for being married and having kids. Whatever you want to hear is what you will get. Whatever is the truth does not enter into their thinking or response.
Pinas know it is lies, but it is what is expected so that is what gets said. Expect to get the answer you want, ignore the truth as you will only get it by happenstance if it also happens to be what you want to hear.
WestCoast1
10-31-19, 05:15
Pinas know it is lies, but it is what is expected so that is what gets said. Expect to get the answer you want, ignore the truth as you will only get it by happenstance if it also happens to be what you want to hear.I think you made my point better than I did. Kudos.
Engine Driver
10-31-19, 05:31
Question about Vasectomy. I just had my sperm stored in a sperm bank so I can use it in the future (more likely before I turn 45), so I will be having a vasectomy done next week.
My question is to the guys here who had vasectomy done and had sex without condoms, what are the chances of me getting HIV or STD?
Mate, it seems you weren't paying attention in high school biology class or you picked the wrong day to cut class. A vasectomy is where the vas deferens in your nut sack are cut and tied so that sperm can't swim up your pisss tube, enter the chicks pussy and collide with her egg. Thus you can't make a baby. How the fuck did you think that a vasectomy can prevent HIV? You will still ejaculate cum, just no sperm. If your unsheathed cock comes into contact with her blood, pussy or anal juice or infected skin, you can contract a number of diseases.
Now back to school.
Here they will always say what they think you want to hear. Doesn't matter what the question is, if they think you want to hear that they never have been with a expat, they will say so, same thing for being married and having kids. Whatever you want to hear is what you will get. Whatever is the truth does not enter into their thinking or response.
Pinas know it is lies, but it is what is expected so that is what gets said. Expect to get the answer you want, ignore the truth as you will only get it by happenstance if it also happens to be what you want to hear.Don't forget it works both ways. No one thinks that E's GF believes his false reply but as it's the reply she wanted to hear then she is happy to look the other way if he's not fucking her sister or anything else that would shatter the illusion.
Enjoy. G.
Mate, it seems you weren't paying attention in high school biology class or you picked the wrong day to cut class. A vasectomy is where the vas deferens inside your nut sack are cut and tied so that sperm can't swim up your pisss tube, enter the chicks pussy and collide with her egg. Thus you can't make a baby. How the fuck did you think that a vasectomy can prevent HIV? You will still ejaculate cum, just no sperm. If your unsheathed cock comes into contact with her blood, pussy or anal juice or infected skin, you can contract a number of diseases.
Now back to school.I don't think that Steve was asserting that a vas protect the guy from HIV etc. I read his post as no intact monger would risk impregnating a girl so would tarp up everytime 🤔 , gaining the additional benefit of protection that this gives. Getting cut removes the pregnancy risk, so he is now free to bare back one and all thereby presenting the risk that direct contact gives.
To answer from this perspective: roll your dice and take your chances. Its wildly inaccurate to assume that all 'good' girls are clean and all 'bad' girls are infected. Many mongers assert that they have bare backed for years without issue or some have caught something from the first good girl they met. There is everything in between as well.
Enjoy. G.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:04
Well instead of trying to convert the "good" Filipina try dating the bad Filipina. They are much more open.
In AC I had one FL whom would like to offer me her ass when she was on the reds. I call that service.I dated the bad Filipinas before, on my first few trips, but on my last 2 trips I started been more picky about them.
I had been to the Philippines 5 times already and so far I never been to Angeles City, I was invited once to go there by a friend, but I said NO because why go there and have sex with women who only wants you for your money, when I can easily date in Manila, Cebu or other areas like I dated back home with girls who wants to fall for you and don't see you like a cash machine.
Is just my taste you know, I'm not judging anybody. Maybe in the future once I get older (50 plus) and I'm still single then I might change my mind, But for now I'm just picky.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:10
Finally, do a google search on HIV. You can transmit and receive HIV through vaginal sex.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-the-risk-of-hiv-from-vaginal-sex-4138626&ved=2ahUKEwjd05GCocTlAhVjhuAKHSZiB4sQFjALegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw1GxNGIGkudFKRUuntOerBM&cshid=1572448165862
And Mr E is techinically incorrect. HIV is a fluid disease, not a blood disease. You can give it to a girl by shooting your infected load in her.Thanks for the info, so Mr E was incorrect, I can definitely get HIV with vaginal intercourse even without blood involve.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:14
And to complete your education, read this:
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/prep/index.html
HIV can be largely prevented.I was thinking about Prep I did my research, I check and my insurance will cover.
I only worry about side effects, but I have 2 months until my trip so maybe I should start soon to see how my body will react.
The only thing that worries me is that is not good for the liver I read, but is a low risk from what I can see in the studies.
Engine Driver
10-31-19, 08:18
I dated the bad Filipinas before, on my first few trips, but on my last 2 trips I started been more picky about them.
I had been to the Philippines 5 times already and so far I never been to Angeles City, I was invited once to go there by a friend, but I said NO because why go there and have sex with women who only wants you for your money, when I can easily date in Manila, Cebu or other areas like I dated back home with girls who wants to fall for you and don't see you like a cash machine.
.Yep, you got it in one. You worked it out, whereas suckers like me always go to AC and we get cleaned out. The girls are sooo mercenary there. The girls in Manila and Cebu are not after money at all. They are only seeking true companionship and love with a foreigner. Well done in getting there so quickly.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:27
Simple question? Why do you bother visiting as those you chat with have all had foreigners inside them, some all holes! So why bother?
I suggest you may have more luck with a convent (even in the Philippines) or Canada where it seems you are bawd.
Do you have the same rule for pinays in Canada as you did say you were banging one there (or was it more).
But to think you never play with a girl who has had an foreigner is a tad naive as they had pinoys so then what do you do LOL.Why bother?
Because I had met lots of Filipinas that haven't been spoil by foreigners yet, and just a secret they tend to be very shy at first, but that's part of the game, to make them comfortable so they can open up and they can start falling for you.
This is why I'm very particular with my search, did I say is 100% proven I will find girls that haven't slept with foreigners? NOPE. But I would say 70-80% of the girls I met (on my last 2 trips) they are foreigner virgins!
Do I have the same rule for pinays in Canada?
Of course not, they live in a foreigner country like Canada, and most of them had worked in Hong Kong, Singapore, Dubai, etc before coming to Canada, so I expect them to have slept with foreigners before, I just look for the ones that have done it the less, that ones that are not slutty.
The Pinay I have a 2 years open relationship she is been with 2 Filipinos before, 1 in Phils (4 years relationship), and 1 here in Canada (6 months), she said I'm her first foreigner and I believe her because so far she hasn't lie to me. Even if she had a foreigner before I don't care because I expect it.
Just to make it clear, I'm picky with Filipinas in Philippines because there are so many fish in the sea, that I can be picky and still get laid regularly.
I don't mind if she had Filipinos before, because is normal. I just don't like the ones that like to date and sleep with alot of Foreigners because that tells me she is more likely a goldigger who main focus is money and not love.
Maybe I guess you can say I'm picky in the Philippines because deep inside I'm searching for my soulmate, and I doubt I will find one in the Philippines. BUT just in case if I do find her in the Philippines, I know for sure she is a good girl and a relationship material.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:35
Yep, you got it in one. You worked it out, whereas suckers like me always go to AC and we get cleaned out. The girls are sooo mercenary there. The girls in Manila and Cebu are not after money at all. They are only seeking true companionship and love with a foreigner. Well done in getting there so quickly.
Just don't go in the tourist areas trying to find them.
I rather dated provincianas, girls from the province outside Cebu and Manila, who just go there for work or school, they don't have time to dated much because they are busy, of course until they dated me that is.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:40
This is troubling, considering its a dichotomy (or hypocrisy, see your quote below). Once you find out she's sleeping with other foreigners? Isn't it too late at that point? If you got fooled by one pinay (haha haven't we all? Don't we understand that's part of the game). There's a good chance you've been fooled by others (if not the vast majority). Pinay honesty is not exactly legendary; the girls are extremely opportunisitic (I think we've documented that over and over).You never heard of the expression: What you don't know can't hurt you?
But once I know of course I will stop, I'm not that desperate, there are so many fish in the sea.
If she tells you that she's not sleeping with other foreigners, there's not only a good chance she's not telling the truth, she is also not mentioning her pinoy boyfie (or pinoy sex partners). Jesus de Christo.Like I said before, read my response to Wicked Roger.
I don't think so (I could be wrong). I'm with Roger. I know that sounds very "CM-ish", but I'm sticking with it.Body language is very important to pay attention when you think someone is lying.
Steve Nash
10-31-19, 08:51
Everyone has their own taste and Steve is welcome to his. However, when I'm in town, I'm there for great sex, not to provide training. I recognize that for girls to know their way around a bedroom, she has developed that through experience, not sitting at home with her legs crossed. There are many things that foreigners prefer that pinoys don't (eg long extended sessions) so if some of that experience has been tasting white meat, all the better.
I've had many memorable nights with hard core hookers that have been around the block many times. Some I was lucky to survive the encounter but what a night. 😁.
The same can be said for the sweet girls next door types: some experience helps the flow of the night a lot vs a girl who just lays there because she doesn't know what to do.
Again, each to their own so enjoy what ever your preferance is.
G.Thank you Goferring, at least someone who doesn't judge others.
I respect about you not liking to train women, I'm the opposite, I love inexperience women so I can teach them and see their reaction when I teach them something new, and give them their best orgasms ever, very few will squirt. But many of them will reach full body orgasms. Once they reach that level, trust me they will love you forever.
The thing I notice is that if you are not selfish in bed and you teach her right and make her reach all those levels (like a full body orgasm), she will listen to you and be a quick learner, and more important they won't be boring in bed anymore.
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