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Wicked Roger
06-24-20, 16:05
P. S. She has this family to move back home to, but they can't scrape together $10 for her to get a bus ticket and she has to rely on you? You did not give a time frame, but if she moved back home last month when you gave her money to do so, how did she get 3 months behind on her rent? And she is supposed to be at her family's home anyway. Either you told it wrong or this shit does not add up.Used the same argument with one girl and when I said it, explained it in great detail she never chatted again.
A few have WhatsApp me saying 'please send me cash for my ticket home as I am in Manila and can't get back to Cebu / Davao etc' When I tell / ask her 1) why a one way ticket 2) whoever paid the ticket can pay for you to go back (normally the reply is family or sister) and 3) best find a job and save for it as you are stupid to take one way. They shut up and ignore me.
You know that feeling when a stray cat adopts you? Am I allowed to say "If you have any sponsors in Korea or China, you probably want to start hassling them" or "Create a My Free Cams account"?We've all had a girl at some stage that has caught us in some way because we have hearts! We do send money on a promise of a future benefit.
I do have a pinay ex-GF which ended as my contract in Philippines was finished and I move back to my country. I had supported her for 1+ years so I did continue for two months after I left. I send some for the earthquake. This time I had to say no for covid. I know by now she would have multiple sponsors. I like to think I taught her well.
It always has to end when the monger says no. The sooner we say it, the cheaper it is for us.
PP.
Pinaypounder
06-24-20, 20:59
Sending money to women who are not your wife or fiancee or actual full time GF is bad. It no different than feeding the wildlife. They become dependent and if you think (and why else would you send money) that she is your future next divorce then don't you want a woman that works?
Bringing a sponge to the West is a horrible idea in my opinion.
Perhaps they can't do much but if you think a beggar is going to be happy being a housewife, well you are confused. There are indeed lots of good women there but feeding the wildlife reduces the numbers big time.
And if she is sucking you in for cash do you think you are the only one? The ones that ask / beg for money are liars and they are not even smart enough to lie well.
Nay Nay as the fat comedian used to say.
Stop feeding the wildlife.
Plenty of young cute girls with pretty pics in DIA. Agree immediately to have sex when I visit. So we take it to chat apps to discuss. As soon as we start chatting demands for money starts. My excuse at this time is everything is closed and there is no way to send money. These girls are smart and start advising me how easy to send money online even if you are in lockdown. Then I say no money till I get sex. Then they say okay they will wait for my arrival. It is anybody's guess if they will give me sex.
I do not send money before services are rendered. Do not send money to previous girls as well whatever their problems are.
As soon as we start chatting demands for money starts. My excuse at this time is everything is closed and there is no way to send money. These girls are smart and start advising me how easy to send money online even if you are in lockdown. Then I say no money till I get sex. Then they say okay they will wait for my arrival. It is anybody's guess if they will give me sex.
I always find that trying to hide behind lies or excuses unravels so I just skip the first steps and say truthfully that I'm happy to help when we meet but don't send money to girls I've never met. The true scammers will continue on about how they need the money NOW while other will just agree.
I've found that not having paid makes zero difference to whether we have sex or not once I'm there, in town, dick in one hand and, cash in the other.
Enjoy. G.
Taiwan Laowai
06-24-20, 22:43
OK, so this new vlogger on yT is a very smart Pinay that has my attention. She so fucking smart that you would probably put yourself at a disadvantage by being in her life (her man). I don't generally meet Pinay this smart. I get baby factories dumped by their Pinoy BF that only have pussy for sale keeping them and those children alive. May the big man above recognize my dollars are saving the world-kinda, after I take my cut. Is that redemption?
Anyway the smart Pinay went to a Pinay lawyer for advice for all you dumb asses that marry these women! Watch it for your own good I guess. Their maybe some advice for somebody in this vid. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8haHUYGwQysWow, thanks, this girl is a great find. I go to Dumaguete quite frequently.
After watching her first video, "Does your Filipina Really Love You", I suspect she is catering to western guys (her primary viewership) by saying what they wanna hear. At the very minimum, she's sugar coating things quite liberally. It seems like a very astute strategy on her part, sell the dream so many poor lonely bastards back in the west wanna hear haha. So you old Joe white guy are the dream come true for so many young beautiful Filipinas, not those feminine looking K-Pop guys all over Angeles City lol.
Engine Driver
06-25-20, 05:28
Both options are good, or you can use third option and sag "NO". She will figure it out somehow.
That's the thing, you help them once and now she will message you anytime she need money. I have seen it a lot of times. Recently I gave $50 to some chick in Hanoi last month, I met her on my Hanoi trip last year. She asked for $100 again next week and said something about rent bla bla. I told her nope, no reason given. I don't owe her any explaination. And now she's not disturbing me. If I don't want to give money, I will say noMaybe CTC feels good giving away money. It's his money, so he's free to do whatever he likes with it. People are always giving away money to others they have never met before. Look at Bill Gates. He gives his money away to a bunch of Africans whom he has never met. But then again, he needs to atone for having flown on Lolita Express. (Maybe Epstein was having legitimate problems with MS Word on his Island).
Chocha Monger
06-25-20, 22:27
In that regard, Grandpa Caramello was one of the smarter mongers. In his legendary 40+ year mongering career in Micronesia and South East Asia, he did not fall in love with any of his nubile, young conquests. He rather wisely avoided matrimony. His addiction to BBFSCIP did leave a lasting social legacy of course though. Over 500 half-caste bastard children wandering the streets looking for their Australian passports. Hahahaha.Grandfather Caramello had impeccable taste for only the finest Micronesian and Southeast Asian flesh. Unlike most mongers he saved his seed to inseminate only the highest quality beauties and spread his Aussie legacy far and wide. However, he somehow managed to master his lust and never mistook BBFSCIP for love in over half a century of raw-dogging his way around Micronesia and Southeast Asia. He never married and never had any girlfriends, as he was strictly a short-time monger. Those scheming Pinays never stood a chance against Grandfather Caramello. Hahaha!
Chocha Monger
06-27-20, 03:06
Maybe CTC feels good giving away money. It's his money, so he's free to do whatever he likes with it. People are always giving away money to others they have never met before. Look at Bill Gates. He gives his money away to a bunch of Africans whom he has never met. But then again, he needs to atone for having flown on Lolita Express. (Maybe Epstein was having legitimate problems with MS Word on his Island).Interestingly, many mongers seem to be socialists and enjoy giving away free capital to Pinay hookers. On the other hand, the Pinays are ruthless capitalists who control the means of production and live by the law of "no money no pussy" when it comes to foreign mongers.
CenTexCrash
06-27-20, 21:54
Maybe CTC feels good giving away money. It's his money, so he's free to do whatever he likes with it. People are always giving away money to others they have never met before. Look at Bill Gates. He gives his money away to a bunch of Africans whom he has never met. But then again, he needs to atone for having flown on Lolita Express. (Maybe Epstein was having legitimate problems with MS Word on his Island).Only because last months I've been making a killing on Uber Eats / Grub hub.
The first plea, my though was "okay there's a borderline humanitarian crisis in PH", so send just a little but and emphasize for basic necessities. Sent her $170. Figured that'll shut her up. She said she'd send me nudes. Wasn't asking but if you're offering go right ahead. Most of her just lying in bed stiff like a corpse while she pans up down. Carry on then.
Month went by, she pleas for bus fare to countryside. I figure, give her $60 she'll go away.
Then she railroaded me with barely 2 weeks later "I'm back in Manila and landlord says I still owe 15 kPHP help me!" And that's when I said hold up. I thought the bus ride was a long term thing and other stuff.
But on flip side maybe it is a crisis, gave part of that only because I'm killing it with food delivery apps and thinking if she crawls back in a few months I'll just say I lost my job and can't help at moment. But I did press her that third time with This is not the norm for me, I know it's hurting but I'm hurting here in USA too.
She hasn't made any follow up mentions of utility bills she tried to drop on me so I'm guessing a Korean or Aussie dud took care of those.
Only because last months I've been making a killing on Uber Eats / Grub hub.
The first plea, my though was "okay there's a borderline humanitarian crisis in PH", so send just a little but and emphasize for basic necessities. Sent her $170. Figured that'll shut her up. She said she'd send me nudes. Wasn't asking but if you're offering go right ahead. Most of her just lying in bed stiff like a corpse while she pans up down. Carry on then.
Month went by, she pleas for bus fare to countryside. I figure, give her $60 she'll go away.
Then she railroaded me with barely 2 weeks later "I'm back in Manila and landlord says I still owe 15 kPHP help me!" And that's when I said hold up. I thought the bus ride was a long term thing and other stuff.
But on flip side maybe it is a crisis, gave part of that only because I'm killing it with food delivery apps and thinking if she crawls back in a few months I'll just say I lost my job and can't help at moment. But I did press her that third time with This is not the norm for me, I know it's hurting but I'm hurting here in USA too.
She hasn't made any follow up mentions of utility bills she tried to drop on me so I'm guessing a Korean or Aussie dud took care of those.Might change your handle. LOL. I am just joking. Your money and you can do anything you want with it.
If you like, you can send some money to me and I will make sure some girls earn it on my next trip!
Mr Enternational
06-28-20, 02:41
She hasn't made any follow up mentions of utility bills she tried to drop on me so I'm guessing a Korean or Aussie dud took care of those.Or, and I know this is a stretch, there were none in the first place!
PedroMorales
06-28-20, 10:05
Only because last months I've been making a killing on Uber Eats / Grub hub.
The first plea, my though was "okay there's a borderline humanitarian crisis in PH", so send just a little but and emphasize for basic necessities. Sent her $170. Figured that'll shut her up. She said she'd send me nudes. Wasn't asking but if you're offering go right ahead. Most of her just lying in bed stiff like a corpse while she pans up down. Carry on then.
Month went by, she pleas for bus fare to countryside. I figure, give her $60 she'll go away.
Then she railroaded me with barely 2 weeks later "I'm back in Manila and landlord says I still owe 15 kPHP help me!" And that's when I said hold up. I thought the bus ride was a long term thing and other stuff.
But on flip side maybe it is a crisis, gave part of that only because I'm killing it with food delivery apps and thinking if she crawls back in a few months I'll just say I lost my job and can't help at moment. But I did press her that third time with This is not the norm for me, I know it's hurting but I'm hurting here in USA too.
She hasn't made any follow up mentions of utility bills she tried to drop on me so I'm guessing a Korean or Aussie dud took care of those.Neither she nor her trike drivers needed a kidney or two from you, so you dodgy a bullet and a scalpel there. Here in the West, because over 90% of young women take one of the following forms, frustration reigns.
1. Heavily tattooed fat asses, who love cans of cider, take away and track suits that show their flabby bellies and Super mac size asses like they are heavily pregnant hippos. Trouble all the what, lots of kids by different sperm donors.
2. Clubbers who stay in shape to flaunt their assets to ripped paupers in said clubsa. Good if you want someone to go through your credit cards shopping.
3. Lesbians, in to sport, riped. Good if you are the same.
4. Baggage ladies, been through spouses, crap.
5. Homeless and toothless, living in tents, trying to work a 12 step Methadone program.
I don't see your Pinays as being much different.
The only way the girl can progress a conversation is to ask for money. I had a nice final message from a girl a few weeks ago, in response to my silence after she asked for birthday present for her daughter "You aren't going to help are you?
Finally she stopped messaging after I didn't reply to that one either.
Apart from this forum I am not having any romantic contact into the Philippines. The timeline is just too long for girl banter. I find it so frustrating that I cannot be on a plane and getting my share of poverty pussy.
PP.
Apart from this forum I am not having any romantic contact into the Philippines. The timeline is just too long for girl banter. I find it so frustrating that I cannot be on a plane and getting my share of poverty pussy.
PP.I'm the same. I'm just using the apps to get numbers for later use. Like you, I find it impossible to keep a conversation going for a second day lest it fall off to no baby food, no work, life is so hard, etc etc.
Maybe its just me, but I have noticed less unsolicited sexy pics and vids are being sent. Probably because the girls are relying on them for cash so don't want to five them away as was common before. Waaaaay more than before are offering them for a fee immediately upon chatting though.
Enjoy. G.
Maybe its just me, but I have noticed less unsolicited sexy pics and vids are being sent. Probably because the girls are relying on them for cash so don't want to five them away as was common before. Waaaaay more than before are offering them for a fee immediately upon chatting though.
Enjoy. G.I noticed that when I was searching local Qld girls on seeking.com I would get messages from filfipina which quickly became online sex offers. It really doesn't do anything for me watching a girl hiding in her room doing stuff. I receive a few unsolicited samples which again didn't do much for me.
It really doesn't do anything for me watching a girl hiding in her room doing stuff. I receive a few unsolicited samples which again didn't do much for me.Same. The only reason I'm online is to get numbers for later. Normally I wouldn't even do that until I was in country but that's now looking like a long time off and I'm bored. 😀.
I think most of the camming is for the guys that never have and likely never will be in the Philippines. Big on promises but they and the girls know it will never happen. I know the girls are VERY impressed and welcoming when I can talk about details of their neighborhood or home town and ask questions that clearly show I have been their numerous times.
I've also noticed quite a few US, Aus, EU based girls in the PI apps as well.
Enjoy. G.
VictorHugo99
06-29-20, 03:53
That's right Mr. S,
No way to have a credit level when it comes to this hobby.
I am not prepare to do charity as my money is not free neither.
Vic.
Plenty of young cute girls with pretty pics in DIA. Agree immediately to have sex when I visit. So we take it to chat apps to discuss. As soon as we start chatting demands for money starts. My excuse at this time is everything is closed and there is no way to send money. These girls are smart and start advising me how easy to send money online even if you are in lockdown. Then I say no money till I get sex. Then they say okay they will wait for my arrival. It is anybody's guess if they will give me sex.
I do not send money before services are rendered. Do not send money to previous girls as well whatever their problems are.
Mr Enternational
06-29-20, 14:23
This was the Vox article of the day today: Why the US has so many Filipino nurses.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yw8a8n7ZAZg
Do you know her daughter?Her daughter is 6!
The birthday present is just another reason in the list of earthquake, school fees, family gathering, uncle returning home etc etc.
Over time I have helped her in excess of P200 k, that's over a few years and years of good service in the bedrooms of my travels. But eventually the money ends.
This was the Vox article of the day today: Why the US has so many Filipino nurses.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yw8a8n7ZAZgI dated a Pinay MD for a couple of years in the US. She went to med school in the Philippines and did her residency at Johns Hopkins. At the time we were dating she was making $350 K.
Engine Driver
06-30-20, 04:33
I dated a Pinay MD for a couple of years in the US. She went to med school in the Philippines and did her residency at Johns Hopkins. At the time we were dating she was making $350 K.More importantly, was she a good root? That is, did she provide BBFSCIP, BBBJCIMWS and BBFSCIA?
This was the Vox article of the day today: Why the US has so many Filipino nurses.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yw8a8n7ZAZgGood info. Thanks Mr. E.
I dated a Pinay MD for a couple of years in the US. She went to med school in the Philippines and did her residency at Johns Hopkins. At the time we were dating she was making $350 K.She told me the only reason she did medical school was to get out of the Philippines. The nurse students motivation is the same.
More importantly, was she a good root? That is, did she provide BBFSCIP, BBBJCIMWS and BBFSCIA?I always get confused with one of these, I think this new acronym is ambiguous.
BBBJCIMWS. With swallow or spit.
Perhaps we need to be more specific BBBJCIMWSw BBBJCIMWSp.
PP.
Chocha Monger
06-30-20, 23:52
More importantly, was she a good root? That is, did she provide BBFSCIP, BBBJCIMWS and BBFSCIA?Yes. Her educational background and salary are unimportant. What mongers really want to know is if she is a good root! They do not care about her earnings, only that she can provide great BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM with swallow. That would be impressive!
What mongers really want to know is if she is a good root! They do not care about her earnings, Why? Maybe the roles were reversed and FT was the one collecting cash.
Best of both worlds? Putting the mangina to work and picking up rent. 😁.
https://youtu.be/ifR2rtZnn-E
No offence FT, just jokes.
Cheers. G.
Mr Enternational
07-01-20, 04:09
Yes. Her educational background and salary are unimportant. What mongers really want to know is if she is a good root! They do not care about her earnings, only that she can provide great BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIM with swallow. That would be impressive!As grandma used to say.
Why? Maybe the roles were reversed and FT was the one collecting cash.
No offence FT, just jokes.
Cheers. G.No offense taken.
My post was in response to the westernized bi$chs pathetic nurse story weaving unrelated events into another female victims story. There is no fkg reason to feel sorry for pinay nurses who finish school and get good jobs. JMHO.
Engine Driver
07-01-20, 05:23
I always get confused with one of these, I think this new acronym is ambiguous.
BBBJCIMWS. With swallow or spit.
Perhaps we need to be more specific BBBJCIMWSw BBBJCIMWSp.
PP.Swallow. If she doesn't swallow, many mongers would just toss her out onto the street. LOL.
Engine Driver
07-01-20, 05:33
I saw this show on YouTube about the West Point Military Academy in NY. At any given time, there are about four Philippine Army cadets studying there. On this show there was a Filipina cadet going through. The first thing that came into my mind was not how tough this young LBFM would have to be to complete the four-year course, but how many white cocks she had sucked and fucked. By the time she completes the course and is commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant in the PA, she would have 800 notches on her bed head, I. E. The whole fucking male cohort in her year at West Point.
Shame on us for having such a low opinion of Filipinas, but they are the most promiscuous women on the planet.
She told me the only reason she did medical school was to get out of the Philippines. The nurse students motivation is the same.Strange. At that level she could return to the PI and actually see an INCREASE in living standard.
She would only see a minor drop in income catering to fully insured expats and the hiso set but gain multiple maids, nannies, drivers etc etc and a major decrease in her cost of living.
Cheers. G.
Strange. At that level she could return to the PI and actually see an INCREASE in living standard.
She would only see a minor drop in income catering to fully insured expats and the hiso set but gain multiple maids, nannies, drivers etc etc and a major decrease in her cost of living.
Cheers. G.She would have to live in a major city to do that.
I saw an ad for an MD for a job in a province. It was 50,000 p a month plus apartment. Good rate for the area but not going to make anyone a millionaire.
She would have to live in a major city to do that.
That's a given but it's where she is from anyway so no big problem. No family from the boonies is going to be able to fund a high end foreign education and internship.
FWIW, any medical appointment that I have had that's been funded by expat insurance or approved by foreign multinational employers has cost as much as, if not more than, a similar visit at home. I should point out that I'm not from the US nor comparing to their healthcare costs.
Cheers. G.
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FWIW, any medical appointment that I have had that's been funded by expat insurance or approved by foreign multinational employers has cost as much as, if not more than, a similar visit at home. I should point out that I'm not from the US nor comparing to their healthcare costs.
Cheers. G.Dr visit here less than 500 p, uninsured Dr visit in Canada $CDN 40 or 1600 p. About 3 times more in Canada.
Session with IV antibiotic uninsured in Canada $150 CDN (5800 p) here 5,000 p, almost the same.
These are the only points of comparison I have. But a day regular hospital was $CDN 2500 (97,000 p) ICU bed was 5500 or 214,000 p. Not sure the going rate here. If anyone has data please post.
Dr visit here less than 500 p, uninsured Dr visit in Canada $CDN 40 or 1600 p. About 3 times more in Canada.
Session with IV antibiotic uninsured in Canada $150 CDN (5800 p) here 5,000 p, almost the same.
These are the only points of comparison I have. But a day regular hospital was $CDN 2500 (97,000 p) ICU bed was 5500 or 214,000 p. Not sure the going rate here. If anyone has data please post.KG, I'm not here to turn this into a pissing match. I'm well aware that there are some very good medical facilities available at cut rate prices as your numbers indicate. Some may even include doctocts with western exposure. I was referring specifically to practices where the docs are western trained to a very high level and pricing is not a real consideration as its funded by 3rd parties.
While I've paid similar to your value for money prices, I've also paid western prices for dental treatment, specialist assessment of a skin rash and chest pain. All of these had docs similar to the JHopkins trained specialist mentioned earlier.
Cheers. G.
PedroMorales
07-05-20, 11:25
Enough criticism of marshmallows. Take it from me LBFMs love marshmallows of all shapes, especially when they are gift wrapped in pesos. They just can's wait to get those marshmallows inside them. They love to stroll down the street with a marshallow in a stroller as the sneets and jeers they get for being with a marshmallow way beyond its sell by date deepens their character.
Shame on us for having such a low opinion of Filipinas, but they are the most promiscuous women on the planet.IMHO Spanish women are most promiscuous. Specifically Colombians. Generally most promiscuous are economically disadvantaged who do not conform to society rules.
IMHO Spanish women are most promiscuous. Specifically Colombians. Generally most promiscuous are economically disadvantaged who do not conform to society rules.I agree, seldom do you encounter a bad Colombiana. The Filipinas are about 50/50 in my experience.
KG, I'm not here to turn this into a pissing match. I'm well aware that there are some very good medical facilities available at cut rate prices as your numbers indicate. Some may even include doctocts with western exposure. I was referring specifically to practices where the docs are western trained to a very high level and pricing is not a real consideration as its funded by 3rd parties.
While I've paid similar to your value for money prices, I've also paid western prices for dental treatment, specialist assessment of a skin rash and chest pain. All of these had docs similar to the JHopkins trained specialist mentioned earlier.
Cheers. G.Not a pissing match, just comparing experiences. I have only visited a Dr here twice and the IV antibiotics was for a non sexual infection that developed while I was in Canada so I started treatment there and finished here when I returned.
I have only paid out of pocket, at the medical services that locals use, I have not come anywhere near my deductible on my insurance.
Mr Enternational
07-06-20, 06:38
Session with IV antibiotic uninsured in Canada $150 CDN (5800 p) here 5,000 p, almost the same.Here in Thailand I paid $US30 for IV antibiotic in a brand new private hospital with no insurance. They tried to get me to stay overnight, but I remembered friends telling me they make their money when you sleep there. It would be like US$500 if I would have taken them up on that offer. Instead, I told them I lived right around the corner and would just come back the next day. They got angry with me when I didn't fall for it.
IMHO Spanish women are most promiscuous. Specifically Colombians. Generally most promiscuous are economically disadvantaged who do not conform to society rules.Your comment is on point, I also want to add that they also get crazy-jealous more than the pinays. Like on an insane level, like stabbing you while you sleep kinda thing.
But then again when you come to think of it, pinays have Spanish blood in them maybe that's why?
KG, I'm not here to turn this into a pissing match. I'm well aware that there are some very good medical facilities available at cut rate prices as your numbers indicate. Some may even include doctocts with western exposure. I was referring specifically to practices where the docs are western trained to a very high level and pricing is not a real consideration as its funded by 3rd parties.
While I've paid similar to your value for money prices, I've also paid western prices for dental treatment, specialist assessment of a skin rash and chest pain. All of these had docs similar to the JHopkins trained specialist mentioned earlier.
Cheers. G.Uninsured emergency room visit is $540 CDN. In Vancouver plus drugs if you are Canadian. Non Canadian is $1900 per stay.
KilledSoul
07-08-20, 09:26
IMHO Spanish women are most promiscuous. Specifically Colombians. Generally most promiscuous are economically disadvantaged who do not conform to society rules.I have mongered in Colombia. Girls are really sweet there and probably there are no women more promiscuous in the whole world than that of Bello. I have no experience in Philippines but pinays may take the first price in allowing rough sex and CIP at the first meet itself.
Chocha Monger
07-08-20, 10:25
I have mongered in Colombia. Girls are really sweet there and probably there are no women more promiscuous in the whole world than that of Bello. I have no experience in Philippines but pinays may take the first price in allowing rough sex and CIP at the first meet itself.No other women surpass Pinays for promiscuity and readiness to provide BBFSCIP to the first monger that shows up.
Steve Nash
07-08-20, 10:53
Dr visit here less than 500 p, uninsured Dr visit in Canada $CDN 40 or 1600 p. About 3 times more in Canada.
Session with IV antibiotic uninsured in Canada $150 CDN (5800 p) here 5,000 p, almost the same.
These are the only points of comparison I have. But a day regular hospital was $CDN 2500 (97,000 p) ICU bed was 5500 or 214,000 p. Not sure the going rate here. If anyone has data please post.KG are you illegal in Canada?
Most everyone gets free health care in Canada, you don't pay for anything, only thing you will pay is for dental which is a luxury in Canada.
The only thing I will save in Philippines is in dental and in tattoos, LOL.
In Canada you don't pay a single dollar if you give birth, I have Filipinas friends so thankfull that in Canada they pay nothing during their pregnancy (even with csection) while in Philippines they had to pay like 40k to 50k public hospital or 80k semi-private for csection! (for their full hospital bill).
If you have Cancer all your treatments are free, chemo, radiation, even transportation to the hospital is free, I know this because my mom didn't had to pay a single dollar during her 5 years cancer treatment, can you imagine how much would it cost in Philippines or in USA where most uninsured people would have to sale their houses. In Canada you don't need to pay insurance to get free healthcare. Yes you get deducted on taxes, but if you don't work a single day like my grandma (she was 50 yrs old back then, she was not retired yet) she still got free healthcare.
Only illegal people and people with tourist visa don't get free health care that I known. But Canadians, Residents (with PR), people with work permit (like caregivers), and even refugees can get free healthcare in Canada. You don't need to be insure to get it.
KG are you illegal in Canada?
Most everyone gets free health care in Canada, you don't pay for anything, only thing you will pay is for dental which is a luxury in Canada.
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Only illegal people and people with tourist visa don't get free health care that I known. But Canadians, Residents (with PR), people with work permit (like caregivers), and even refugees can get free healthcare in Canada. You don't need to be insure to get it.I am a Canadian citizen so am not illegal in Canada. However I am a non resident of Canada which means that I do not get government health insurance. To get the government health coverage you need to be a Canadian resident, either an immigrant on a permanent residency (citizenship track) or a resident citizen.
Refugees etc that you mentioned are not eligible for government health insurance but may have coverage under their programs. I know work permits are required to purchase private insurance or may be provided that as part of their employment package.
Pinaypounder
07-09-20, 22:53
I used to use Tagged to find leads and dates and years ago it was pretty good. Now Its full of 1 word response wonders who can't even be bothered to read. Some looking for money for nothing and I am a little hard on them.
Switching my attention to women of the Ukraine in hopes I might have an intelligent chat or 2.
Yeah you can stop laughing now. Having a smart chat with my local Filipina live in is a real challenge, can't wait to be gone from her. She does take good care of me though.
PP.
Mr Enternational
07-10-20, 01:02
I used to use Tagged to find leads and dates and years ago it was pretty good. Now Its full of 1 word response wonders who can't even be bothered to read. Some looking for money for nothing and I am a little hard on them.
Switching my attention to women of the Ukraine in hopes I might have an intelligent chat or 2.
Yeah you can stop laughing now. Can't help but to keep laughing if a guy keeps expecting ketchup to come out of a bottle of mustard.
I used to use Tagged to find leads and dates and years ago it was pretty good.I've had good success on Tagged, as you say, years ago. I think it varies by city and nationality. Locally now it is mostly overseas scam profiles. I did have two good catch-ups from that site over the past year. I just keep an active profile and dip in from time to time. It's not the gold mine it used to be.
On the local Tagged scene I was chatting to this filfipina in Brisbane http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=27247433.
Did a couple of video calls.
- had a husky voice. A cold.
- still in dark bedroom in bed. Sleepy.
- was already suspicious and these were confirmations.
After asking her 2-3 times eventually admitted she was a ladyboy.
The pictures are very deceptive.
PP.
Chocha Monger
07-11-20, 03:50
I've had good success on Tagged, as you say, years ago. I think it varies by city and nationality. Locally now it is mostly overseas scam profiles. I did have two good catch-ups from that site over the past year. I just keep an active profile and dip in from time to time. It's not the gold mine it used to be.
On the local Tagged scene I was chatting to this filfipina in Brisbane http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=27247433.
Did a couple of video calls.
- had a husky voice. A cold.
- still in dark bedroom in bed. Sleepy.
- was already suspicious and these were confirmations.
After asking her 2-3 times eventually admitted she was a ladyboy.
The pictures are very deceptive.
PP.Didn't you notice "her" Adam's apple? You are lucky that you did not agree to meet for a root before figuring out "she" was packing a tool. If you did, you would be flipping a coin to decide who was going to be top and bottom. The profile says female gender with straight orientation. LOL!
Engine Driver
07-11-20, 03:59
Many poor Pinay hookers continue to contact me in the vain hope I will send them a wire transfer to Western Union. Apparently they have no food and no work. Their President should have thought of that before agreeing to be fucked up the ass by Xi Jinping. Just as a social experiment, I asked a particularly sweet hooker if she would be willing to do a naked cam show for me for money instead of just giving her a free handout? 'Of course Mr ED', was the instant reply. Hahahaha. I was thinking of sending her 1,000 peso for a nude show, but declined as I had more interesting things to do. Hahaha. I did not want that to lead to a future blackmail opportunity and I have never seen her ID. Despite being nincompoops, they know how to record VCs and they know you need to provide your full name to send money. Desperate times can lead to desperate measures. Be careful out there you mongers. I do think it's a buyers market, even though there is absolutely no prospect of a root with an LBFM unless you are already in country.
I had a massage recently from a filipina that is here in my home country on a student visa. Over the years it has been rare to find a filipina in the local sex industry, to be here in Aust I would expect they are either here on a partner visa or visiting a future partner. If they are students then they would be coming from a more affluent family.
I know I like mongering in RP. It's good fun and if the girl is a dud (hopefully not a dude) then it hasn't cost too much money. So when a filipina is operating here and charging western rates it just feels expensive.
In Brisbane, it seems to be the korean and Taiwanese students that are the start performers in my books. Why settle for filipina pussy at the same local price?
Thoughts?
PP.
Mr Enternational
07-13-20, 17:43
On the local Tagged scene I was chatting to this filfipina in Brisbane http://www.tagged.com/profile.html?uid=27247433.
Does this seriously remind anyone here of a woman?
Pinaypounder
07-13-20, 19:09
I had a massage recently from a filipina that is here in my home country on a student visa. Over the years it has been rare to find a filipina in the local sex industry, to be here in Aust I would expect they are either here on a partner visa or visiting a future partner. If they are students then they would be coming from a more affluent family.
I know I like mongering in RP. It's good fun and if the girl is a dud (hopefully not a dude) then it hasn't cost too much money. So when a filipina is operating here and charging western rates it just feels expensive.
In Brisbane, it seems to be the korean and Taiwanese students that are the start performers in my books. Why settle for filipina pussy at the same local price?
Thoughts?
PP.I agree fully. Here in Canada I don't really ply the pro trade as it is hard to find and outrageously expensive all I can ever think is how many Fils or Thais I can fuck for hours or nights for the same fee.
Here I have fucked likely 9 in Canada for Free. Had 1 she was chubby but the lowest maintenance ever pick her up fuck her senseless take her home. 0 more expected.
Here they tend to gain weight as my current Filipina GF is doing.
Yuck to that.
PP.
Chocha Monger
07-13-20, 21:50
Does this seriously remind anyone here of a woman?Nope! Obvious Adam's apple, broad strong shoulders, large feet, and freaky face. LOL! Everything screams chick with a dick. Run away! Run away!
Engine Driver
07-13-20, 23:32
I had a massage recently from a filipina that is here in my home country on a student visa. Over the years it has been rare to find a filipina in the local sex industry, to be here in Aust I would expect they are either here on a partner visa or visiting a future partner. If they are students then they would be coming from a more affluent family.
I know I like mongering in RP. It's good fun and if the girl is a dud (hopefully not a dude) then it hasn't cost too much money. So when a filipina is operating here and charging western rates it just feels expensive.
In Brisbane, it seems to be the korean and Taiwanese students that are the start performers in my books. Why settle for filipina pussy at the same local price?
Thoughts?
PP.There are thousands of Filipinas in your country PP. Like you mentioned, most come on sponsored spousal visas or tourist visas (for a look see), attached to an old, walking ATM. The need is not there to resort to prostitution as the monger will provide everything in return for a daily BBBJCIMWS. Once the PR stamp appears in her Pilipinas passport, the old codger will be booted after his bank account is sucked dry and she will take up with a young Aussie jock.
The rich Filipinos prefer to send their kids to the US for masters degrees where is there is a huge ethnic diaspora. As the medium of instruction in Philippines colleges is English, Pinays do not need to go to RWML to "learn Ingris", unlike their Thai, Indonesian or Korean sisters.
I know a few medicos who work in hospitals and they are very complimentary of Pinay and Pinoy nurses. They have a good work ethic, follow instructions and aren't lazy like some young white female nurses. Their clinical skills (blood taking etc) are also good apparently. These nurses obviously earn a good wage so aren't going to moonlight as hookers.
. Their clinical skills (blood taking etc) are also good apparently.You make some good points but I cannot allow their blood drawing skills. I've had a few blood tests in Angeles City and they still use a tourniquet plus the manually draw out the blood into the syringe. The cute vacuum vial is not for them. So in the process of the drawing they can make quite the bruise.
PedroMorales
07-29-20, 07:12
Have started to reappear. One popular one has returned and a cheaper option is also about. I was going to bang one of them today but Covid19 is whispering in my ear. Pinay health care workers have been be adly hit with the virus asnd I am not sure I need it from one of them. They get it from their cramped living and the nature of their work. It looks like Tissue Man remains the only game in town.
Without a chance of Ph travel I have been off the Ph dating sites. It has been interesting as I still have a small circle of pinay exs that keep in touch.
There are a few that go in a consistent cycle depending upon their monetary needs.
Girl A. I had a relationship for 2 years and she has a new korean BF. He's a bit unreliable on money so if she and her family are really stuck I hear from her. The only reason she would have to stoop so low as to contact me is if she is genuinely desperate. I usually send money to help each 3-4 months.
Girl b. An OFW that is back in Ph on parent's farm, hating life and desperate to get back overseas. Only hear from her 6 monthly and outright asks for money. I don't send.
Girl c. Chat each week about life. She has a regular job. She gets the most financial help. She would be the one I will travel with when I next return to Ph.
Girl the got herself pregnant in a pandemic. Husband has no job. Sends me lovely naked pictures of her and her lovely bump. Oh, how much fun that would be if I was there. Undecided on what support if any to send her as the things she wants to buy with my money don't make sense in such a situation.
These are just the requests that I get as a humble monger. Other guys must be getting much more.
Pinaypounder
12-14-20, 18:55
Are filipinas worth being with long term despite their mental limitations?
I know no one is perfect and clearly I am not perfect. But I am smart and now I need to vent.
I have a Filipina GF here in Canada. She was and is an overseas worker. A school teacher much loved and promoted in Thailand. I have to believe based on everything that she was very good at her job. She has a university degree and 15 years of teaching experience. There in Thailand she was a supervisor a department head even. Her sisters are a Doctor and a Psychiatrist both huge cunts to her.
She is as dumb as fuck and I am not sure how much longer I can take it. She does not listen, she does not pay attention, but she loves me in the same manner as a dog almost exactly the same. She uses 100 words when 5 can work. She babbles on and on and on.
But she has strengths also and again no one is perfect but yikes.
I am so tired of the fucking stupidity of these women.
Am I out of line?
Have others had this frustration?
Are they worth it?
How do you deal with it?
As fuck toys they ROCK (not my GF she is the worst fuck I have ever had) but when I travel there to the Philippines they ROCK. But as life long companions?
I am sincerely looking for perspective not insults.
PP.
I am sincerely looking for perspective not insults.
PP.I have no answers PP. For me I got a young one who is an eager trainee (with big tits). We will see how it goes. I am optimistic. Maybe I am lucky I dunno. Good luck.
Mr Enternational
12-14-20, 22:02
Are filipinas worth being with long term despite their mental limitations?Fuck that. I am too smart to play dumb with a stupid chick. I have to have someone smart. Philippines is just like Dominican Republic in reference to dumb mfs. Routinely I will meet a chick and ask her questions and she will say why are you asking me this. I say how are you supposed to get to know someone if you don't ask questions? Duh.
Then I start asking about their past relationships and they don't want to talk about it. They want to say that was the past. No way I want to talk to a chick who thinks her past is irrelevant. It shapes who they are and tells what types of experiences they have had in life. But they want to keep it secret and trick themselves into believing they can forget about it.
Are filipinas worth being with long term despite their mental limitations?
I know no one is perfect and clearly I am not perfect. But I am smart and now I need to vent.
....
She is as dumb as fuck and I am not sure how much longer I can take it. She does not listen, she does not pay attention, but she loves me in the same manner as a dog almost exactly the same. She uses 100 words when 5 can work. She babbles on and on and on.
.....
As fuck toys they ROCK (not my GF she is the worst fuck I have ever had) but when I travel there to the Philippines they ROCK. But as life long companions?
I am sincerely looking for perspective not insults.
PP.So she is dumb, talks too much, not a good fuck and yet she is your GF? Makes me wonder.
Everyone has their limitations and priorities. If your priority is a very smart girl, good luck finding that here. If your priority is a great fuck, then you can find that here.
I did find one very smart girl here. She was working on a Masters at one of the top universities. She could hold a real conservation had traveled and could relate to world events. Unfortunately she was not the best fuck at all. In fact the worst I have had here. She did not last. I would have kept her as a friend, someone to have a nice lunch or supper with once in a while but after sleeping together, she did not want to go to that.
My main regulars are not the smartest around but adequate to spend some time with. They are also all great fucks.
I have over 1300 mutual likes on Tinder, I would guess more mutual contacts than that on PL, and large numbers of contacts on other sites.
A guess is at least 3,000 or more mutual contacts (where we have actually exchanged messages) only 3 or one in a thousand have lead to something that I might find suitable for a ongoing long term relationship. Two of these girls have circumstances that preclude a live in arrangement so that leaves only one.
They are out there, rare but out there. It is a numbers game to go through large numbers of them to find one that is not a scammer, not too stupid for words, too stupid to put up with, with a personality that is compatible to you, and a good fuck.
You will never find perfection in all your wish list of the perfect woman, you must decide on your priorities and what your tolerance is for her failings. That assumes of course you want a long term relationship. The alternative is to just find them, fuck them and forget them. That was fun to do but got old eventually.
Just my perspective.
I have a Filipina GF here in Canada. She was and is an overseas worker. A school teacher much loved and promoted in Thailand. I have to believe based on everything that she was very good at her job. She has a university degree and 15 years of teaching experience. There in Thailand she was a supervisor a department head even. Her sisters are a Doctor and a Psychiatrist both huge cunts to her..They are out there and no need to settle for simple. Widen your search to target rich environments. Also consider how you can grow her expertise.
My previous in-ph-country Filipina GF was an engineer student in Ph. Very good and she could comprehend and add value to conversations, draw mud maps, navigate, balance a budget, manage money and she is the best fuck I have ever had in Ph. I knew she was a keeper on the first weekend I met her. I had to let her go and last I checked she's floating around again on DIA.
My at-home-country Filipina is older, has no idea of navigation but is making a go of life in her new country. She's pretty and pleasant and prior to meeting me she had not been sexually active with her husband. Our first sexual encounter was nothing memorable. I spent some time with her and over a few weeks ignited her inner self. I bought her a vibrator to explore herself. I keep her stocked with lube and regular sexual ideas.
I think all the amazing sexual performers have been trained by someone! Sometimes we have to train them also.
Fuck that. I am too smart to play dumb with a stupid chick. I have to have someone smart. Philippines is just like Dominican Republic in reference to dumb mfs. Routinely I will meet a chick and ask her questions and she will say why are you asking me this. I say how are you supposed to get to know someone if you don't ask questions? Duh.
Then I start asking about their past relationships and they don't want to talk about it. They want to say that was the past. No way I want to talk to a chick who thinks her past is irrelevant. It shapes who they are and tells what types of experiences they have had in life. But they want to keep it secret and trick themselves into believing they can forget about it.For me it's the life experiences.
Admittedly, I'm not fishing from the local Mensa group but I often message at 4 pm to find girlie still in bed, find she has just sat in her room all day or that doing the dishes a major topic of conversation. Even those that have a job seem to be able to chat for 2 hours while at work. I actually found it refreshing one day when a girl basically told be to go away because she was busy at work. Everyone else seems to be doing nothing while physically at work.
I'm not terribly fussy but I'd struggle to find anyone that I could spend more than a month with and there is no way they would come from the usual monger hunting grounds. For them, its a few days or nights only tops.
Enjoy. G.
Pinaypounder
12-16-20, 18:48
They are out there and no need to settle for simple. Widen your search to target rich environments. Also consider how you can grow her expertise.
My previous in-ph-country Filipina GF was an engineer student in Ph. Very good and she could comprehend and add value to conversations, draw mud maps, navigate, balance a budget, manage money and she is the best fuck I have ever had in Ph. I knew she was a keeper on the first weekend I met her. I had to let her go and last I checked she's floating around again on DIA.
My at-home-country Filipina is older, has no idea of navigation but is making a go of life in her new country. She's pretty and pleasant and prior to meeting me she had not been sexually active with her husband. Our first sexual encounter was nothing memorable. I spent some time with her and over a few weeks ignited her inner self. I bought her a vibrator to explore herself. I keep her stocked with lube and regular sexual ideas.
I think all the amazing sexual performers have been trained by someone! Sometimes we have to train them also.I agree with your comments. For some reason I can find no inspiration with this one and I have spent hours mulling that over. I have a literal trunk full of sexual accoutremonts and she is willing and I have turned down her advances far more than I have accepted them.
I have to find a way as she is a good roommate and is very pleasant.
PP.
Pinaypounder
12-16-20, 18:52
So she is dumb, talks too much, not a good fuck and yet she is your GF? Makes me wonder.
Everyone has their limitations and priorities. If your priority is a very smart girl, good luck finding that here. If your priority is a great fuck, then you can find that here.
I did find one very smart girl here. She was working on a Masters at one of the top universities. She could hold a real conservation had traveled and could relate to world events. Unfortunately she was not the best fuck at all. In fact the worst I have had here. She did not last. I would have kept her as a friend, someone to have a nice lunch or supper with once in a while but after sleeping together, she did not want to go to that.
My main regulars are not the smartest around but adequate to spend some time with. They are also all great fucks.
I have over 1300 mutual likes on Tinder, I would guess more mutual contacts than that on PL, and large numbers of contacts on other sites.
A guess is at least 3,000 or more mutual contacts (where we have actually exchanged messages) only 3 or one in a thousand have lead to something that I might find suitable for a ongoing long term relationship. Two of these girls have circumstances that preclude a live in arrangement so that leaves only one..You raise a good point initially that being why I am with her.
Soon I will be leaving here and she knows this, she does love me and I don't like hurting anyone, she is a good roommate and a happy one. I have no interest to start with another knowing I am leaving soon. The soon part just keep changing that's the fucking problem and I do not need to cause more pain or heartache.
Once I am resettled there I shall wait patiently and have a list of pros on speed dials.
PP.
Engine Driver
12-17-20, 08:38
Are filipinas worth being with long term despite their mental limitations?
I know no one is perfect and clearly I am not perfect. But I am smart and now I need to vent.
I have a Filipina GF here in Canada. She was and is an overseas worker. A school teacher much loved and promoted in Thailand. I have to believe based on everything that she was very good at her job. She has a university degree and 15 years of teaching experience. There in Thailand she was a supervisor a department head even. Her sisters are a Doctor and a Psychiatrist both huge cunts to her.
She is as dumb as fuck and I am not sure how much longer I can take it. She does not listen, she does not pay attention, but she loves me in the same manner as a dog almost exactly the same. She uses 100 words when 5 can work. She babbles on and on and on.
PP.Let's just reconfirm the facts that you have stated.
1. She is as dumb as fuck, despite being super dooper math's teacher (says a lot about the Thai education system).
2. She's a totally dud root.
3. Her sisters are doctors which is worth sweet fuck all to you.
That's sir, concludes my investigation. I think you know what the answer is and what action you need to take.
Kindly leave $300 on the table on the way out for my professional advice.
If your priority is a very smart girl, good luck finding that here. If your priority is a great fuck, then you can find that here.Thats some funny shit, but true.
The first time I went there, was standing outside the Cebu airport waiting for my ride and struck up a conversation with an old timer from Texas (I believe).
The guy flat out told me that they're (Filipinas) good in the sack, but not to expect anything in the way of critical thinking skills.
Thought he was full of shit at first, but by the end of my second day there, I realized he was correct.
You can have.
Sane.
Smart.
Sexy.
But you can only pick two. Sometimes you can only get one. Here if you get one it is sexy.
You have to decide where and what you will compromise on or just keep searching, sometimes it is the journey not the destination.
You can have.
Sane.
Smart.
Sexy.
But you can only pick two. Sometimes you can only get one. Here if you get one it is sexy.
You have to decide where and what you will compromise on or just keep searching, sometimes it is the journey not the destination.https://youtu.be/incSwssUyp4
https://youtu.be/incSwssUyp4Much like that but with a third axis of smart.
Engine Driver
12-18-20, 11:27
So you all know I love field experiments. So I created a fake Facebook account, but with my real bashed-crab head mug shot, and went about trying to find me some Pinays. Collecting friends from the Philippines was like picking up shells on the beach. Mind you, most were quite ugly and I did not apply any selection criteria, other than they have a pussy and were still alive. Before I knew it, I had 100 friends from the Philippines, and within a few weeks I had 200 more. Just about every request was accepted. If they saw my profile, it would have shown that I was a guy with virtually no information about me, but with hundreds of Pinay friends only. Yet none of my newly found friends were the slightest bit concerned about my motives. They were as dumb as fuck. I could not believe how easy this exercise was. Imagine me sending out random friend requests to white women in the UK or USA whom I did not know. And that's white women in the 16-50 age group. How many do you think would have accepted? Maybe 1%? In the Philippines, my friend forming rate was around 80%.
By this time, Mr. Zuckerberg was onto me and knew what my true motives were and applied the brakes. I could only become friends with about 10 new Pinays a day before the warning was issued by the thought police in Menlo Park that I was person of bad character.
So having collected about 400 friends, I went about sorting them by looks and age. About 80% of them were discarded as they were still schoolgirls, ugly MILFs or just plain old. I started sending out messages like "Hi, I'm Mr Engine Driver from RWML, how are you?" About one-third of the remaining 80, about 25 in total, responded back. I then struck up a more serious conversation with about 10 of those and they were happy to meet me for a date. I would think about eight of those would have dropped their panties on the first date. All of these eight were in the 6-7 range and were usually single moms with a kid or two. Had I not discarded most of them at the first round, I reckon I could have arranged to meet far more. The older a Pinay gets, the more desperate she becomes for a foreign cock and the higher the root conversion rate.
One particular senior schoolgirl showed an unhealthy interest in me and proactively started chatting. After 1-day, she was convinced she was now my BF, despite my best efforts to dissuade her. I said I would pay and attend her milestone birthday party, if she left me alone now. But she wouldn't. She would send me photos of herself (clothed or in swimsuits) all the time. She would profess her love for me and make fancy images of love hearts and flowers using the latest design apps. Hahaha. I was pretty sure she wasn't a scammer, but just a lovestruck teenager. I cut her loose and just ignored her. Many weeks later, she sent me an abusive message saying I was not a real man and she had found herself another foreign BF. I wished her luck. Her new beau will be needing a lot of luck too. Hahaha.
Imagine this sort of scenario playing out anywhere else. India is a poor country as well, but the women there would never just accept friend requests like they do in the Philippines. The same goes for Myanmar or a bunch of African countries. And they certainly wouldn't chat with random horny mongers and agree to meet with them for a root when they land in Kolkatta or Yangon next. What makes Pinays the most promiscuous women in the world and why do all the poor ones want to escape to RWML with a foreigner? There is something in their psyche which just isn't right.
...They were as dumb as fuck. I could not believe how easy this exercise was. <Snip> I then struck up a more serious conversation with about 10 of those and they were happy to meet me for a date. I would think about eight of those would have dropped their panties on the first date. <Snip> Had I not discarded most of them at the first round, I reckon I could have arranged to meet far more. The older a Pinay gets, the more desperate she becomes for a foreign cock and the higher the root conversion rate...
.Not to bust your balls amigo, but just to understand.. You didn't actually shag or even meet any of these chicks, right, you were well beyond striking reach? Because I have about 500 friends on my Fake-book account, all cute girls--No males. My thread of text messages is 50 yards long. I tried to scroll to the bottom once and couldn't find it. And I don't now if I've shagged any of them. Well, I'm sure I have done a couple over the years but in my experience, when it comes time for them to actually take a bath and get in a jeep, this is where your "root conversion rate" kicks in. You probably have allot more experience at it than I do, and you likely pick on a different demographic. But texting and Facebooking is their national sport. They'll say "add me", and they'll text until the cows come home--As long as you're just beyond striking distance. Try rolling into any province. You can collect hot new text mates like you're a cross between Paul McCartney and Manny Pacquaio. Try getting them out while you're still in town. They'll be busy focusing on their studies. By the time you get 2 islands away, it's back to "low" "cold morning" and "don't skip your dinner" every 5 minutes. I just don't see average Filipinas as pernicious and easy to drop their panties as it's made out to be on this board. Most of them would rather starve to death than shag a foreigner for money or just for fun. They're simply afraid. But again, I may be in different circles or just not as good at it.
I may be in different circles or just not as good at it.I think you summed it up here. I also may not be in EDs league. We probably have filtered out the ones that you are having endless chats with. I'm 55+ and have no problems getting wall-to-wall pussy when in Ph. I also may not be in EDs league. The initial connection has to have some flirting and likely intention. Heck I even added my 'airport check-in' agent on FB and fucked her on my next visit.
Seems you are good at adding. You also need to add some vetting and if you aren't making progress then kill them off, put them on mute or just unfriend them if they are really no chance.
I had a AC lesbian neighbour add me in AC. I got nowhere with the neighbour but I did fuck her hot domestic maid friend of friend when I passed through HK.
For the 500 you have, search for friends of friends in your home city. Post a few pics of your home city and you out and about enjoying your home city. The right ones will identify themselves.
Engine Driver
12-19-20, 12:59
Not to bust your balls amigo, but just to understand.. You didn't actually shag or even meet any of these chicks, right, you were well beyond striking reach? Because I have about 500 friends on my Fake-book account, all cute girls--No males. My thread of text messages is 50 yards long. I tried to scroll to the bottom once and couldn't find it. And I don't now if I've shagged any of them. Well, I'm sure I have done a couple over the years but in my experience, when it comes time for them to actually take a bath and get in a jeep, this is where your "root conversion rate" kicks in. You probably have allot more experience at it than I do, and you likely pick on a different demographic. But texting and Facebooking is their national sport. They'll say "add me", and they'll text until the cows come home--As long as you're just beyond striking distance. Try rolling into any province. You can collect hot new text mates like you're a cross between Paul McCartney and Manny Pacquaio. Try getting them out while you're still in town. They'll be busy focusing on their studies. By the time you get 2 islands away, it's back to "low" "cold morning" and "don't skip your dinner" every 5 minutes. I just don't see average Filipinas as pernicious and easy to drop their panties as it's made out to be on this board. Most of them would rather starve to death than shag a foreigner for money or just for fun. They're simply afraid. But again, I may be in different circles or just not as good at it.No argument here. We know when it comes to morals and ethics, Filipinas have absolutely none. They are right at the bottom of humanity and will let you down and disappoint you with their greed every single time. I'm not sure which type of hiso Filipinas GE messes with, but there's been no evidence if his recent conquests. Filipinas are Olympic gold medalists at lying, cheating, scamming and Facebooking. My report was just based on an actual field experiment hahaha. Done for pure amusement. I did not get to road test any of those MILFs from Facebook due to the current situation, but I don't think it's particularly difficult. No different to PL.
Soapy Smith
12-19-20, 23:53
Much like that but with a third axis of smart.Nice thought, but are any of us on this board really capable of thinking in multi-dimensional space?
Soapy Smith
12-19-20, 23:55
Are filipinas worth being with long term despite their mental limitations?
. . . .
As fuck toys they ROCK (not my GF she is the worst fuck I have ever had) but when I travel there to the Philippines they ROCK. But as life long companions?
I am sincerely looking for perspective not insults. PP.
So she is dumb, talks too much, not a good fuck and yet she is your GF? Makes me wonder. This was my initial thought too.
I think all the amazing sexual performers have been trained by someone! Sometimes we have to train them also.Agreed. And maybe there are other aspects in this woman's repertoire that are trainable.
I don't mean this as an insult PP, because your initial post and several replies suggest you are sincerely looking for advice. But there's a piece left out of your discussion: what is your role in this? Problems in relationships are rarely only on one side. Tangos, good and bad, require two dancers. If sex and other aspects of a woman can be trained (at least partially), why not undertake some training for yourself. Even those of us long in the tooth can learn new tricks; but we need to start with some recognition of our own complicity in relationship problems.
I think all the amazing sexual performers have been trained by someone! Sometimes we have to train them also.Well, here's a story for you. The best preformer I've ever had comes from a Filipina that only had sex once with only one guy. Some Filipino kid got her in a lodge and basically forced her. Then he dumped her because he said she was no good in bed. So word on the street is you have to be good in bed or your guy will dump you. They can watch porn on a shitty little cell phone.
Some people just have natural talents, maybe they're born with it. Sometimes they just want to please. This girl has the combination of all three. She truly cares about me and doesn't want me to get tired.
...We probably have filtered out the ones that you are having endless chats with. . Definitely, you have. But don't know about endless chats, I hate texting. It's more like I just have a lot of them. 2 or 3 half hearted tries, and the list just gets longer. (Unless I really dig her, then it's 5). I never delete, and I save all conversations. Because sometimes in three weeks, or three months, or three years, they come around. For whatever reason it may be.
... The initial connection has to have some flirting and likely intention..Yeah, you're right. But like I said. They've played the tape through 100 x and have decided to come. But when it comes time to actually take a bath and get in the jeep it's suddenly raining.
..Seems you are good at adding. You also need to add some vetting and if you aren't making progress then kill them off, put them on mute or just unfriend them if they are really no chance..Good advice. But if I did that Id only have 12 left that shag every foreigner that hits them up. Some guy laughed at me when I said I don't think any Filipina I've been with has ever been with another foreigner. He was standing in front of Why Not in Dumaguete.
..I got nowhere with the neighbour but I did fuck her hot domestic maid friend...That's the reason I don't unfriend or block anyone (unless it's a persistent gay). In my phonebook there's about 30 names that have "Mystery" in it. You'll never figure out how they got your number, it's not worth trying. I had one for about six months, her name was Midnight Mystery Date. She showed up on my phone at midnight, and ended up in my room 30 minutes later. She happened to be on my same street. 19, Long hair, extremely hot, half Arab. (Didn't know what country her father was from, only that he was Arab).
..For the 500 you have, search for friends of friends in your home city...The right ones will identify themselves.That's a good idea too. I guess there's ways to do that without crossing your personal life with your travel circles. Digital dating was never my main thing, but no doubt it's a great tool. Especially as things move more and more digital.
This conversation reminds me of Skogis, senior members remember him. This guy used only Facebook in the end, and actually utilized complex spreadsheets for his Olympic level efficiency. Surprised there's not ROD's featuring his remarkable work with Facebook.
No argument here. We know when it comes to morals and ethics, Filipinas have absolutely none. They are right at the bottom of humanity and will let you down and disappoint you with their greed every single time. .Well, I recon that puts the "Y" in YMMV. I haven't seen much of that element, thankfully. I was detailing pretty much the exact opposite of that aspect. The type where their morals and ethics (or maybe simply being afraid) would allow them to go hungry and live in dirt with no running water rather than air that stuff out for a gringo.
I suppose it all depends on what your goals are, how much time you're willing to invest (or waste), and how much of a PIFA you're willing to endure. Just offering a different point of view. Especially for newbs that got the idea they can simply line up and knock back hotties all day. Maybe so, maybe not. It's by far the lowest RCR (root conversion rate) of any country I've been. The saving grace is there's a lot of them.
PS.. Thinking of Midnight Mystery Date, whenever I've had more than one GF at a time, the best ones always fall off the perch first. And that's because of my morals and ethics, and greed for more that let them down and disappointed them.. Haha :(
I never delete, and I save all conversations. Because sometimes in three weeks, or three months, or three years, they come around. For whatever reason it may be....
That's the reason I don't unfriend or block anyone (unless it's a persistent gay)....Me too:
Past performance (good or bad) is no guarantee of future returns.
Previous chats remind me of who the person is and their attitudes esp of it included photos.
It avoids the whole "who are you" convo again and again.
Even the psychos have a "X" mark against their name so I know to avoid them if they contact me again.
I've had a few "I'm busy but have you met my cousin?" before.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
12-20-20, 05:46
I've had a few "I'm busy but have you met my cousin?" before.
Enjoy. G.The referral system. Amazing, isn't it? Cousins, friends, sisters; its why IMFITP.
Chocha Monger
12-20-20, 19:50
No argument here. We know when it comes to morals and ethics, Filipinas have absolutely none. They are right at the bottom of humanity and will let you down and disappoint you with their greed every single time. I'm not sure which type of hiso Filipinas GE messes with, but there's been no evidence if his recent conquests. Filipinas are Olympic gold medalists at lying, cheating, scamming and Facebooking. My report was just based on an actual field experiment hahaha. Done for pure amusement. I did not get to road test any of those MILFs from Facebook due to the current situation, but I don't think it's particularly difficult. No different to PL.Engine Driver drives home some very salient points about Filipinas and their nature. Mongers married to Filipinas will always say, "Oh, there are exceptions. Filipinas are actually saints. You must not have been to Heaven and met them like I did. " The fact is that the notoriety of Filipinas of all classes is documented in numerous distinguished journalistic rags around the world. The overwhelming evidence indicates that they are the women the highest Root Conversion Factor on the planet. Along with this high rate of promiscuity comes the other highly undesirable traits that ED described. Bluntly put, they are not marriage material for any man who can do better.
The great white shark, (Carcharodon carcharias), does not generally eat men. However, enough great white sharks have eaten or taste tested a large enough number of men to the point that it is considered foolish to swim in waters where they are present and actively feeding. The same applies with serious long-term relationships and marriage to Filipinas. More than enough of them have eaten more than foreign men's cum to make a general sense of caution warranted in dealings with them.
Pinaypounder
12-22-20, 20:28
In preparation for my next trip I am actively trying to connect and chat some older and attractive 45+ women.
My theory is this:
If they still look good at 45+ then they take care of themselves and they are of a higher class than the average girl. So they will be more mentally stimulating and more interested in doing non sexual adult things.
As they still look good they will get my interest and I think they should be easy to fuck and to keep a string of them on the line. And to be honest a good looking older woman is hot in my opinion.
Thirdly I think I won't have to teach them EVERYTHING and they will be even more appreciative.
Has anyone played this pool of pinay pussy? Am I right or wrong?
PP.
Engine Driver
12-23-20, 02:31
In preparation for my next trip I am actively trying to connect and chat some older and attractive 45+ women.
My theory is this:
If they still look good at 45+ then they take care of themselves and they are of a higher class than the average girl. So they will be more mentally stimulating and more interested in doing non sexual adult things.
As they still look good they will get my interest and I think they should be easy to fuck and to keep a string of them on the line. And to be honest a good looking older woman is hot in my opinion.
Thirdly I think I won't have to teach them EVERYTHING and they will be even more appreciative.
Has anyone played this pool of pinay pussy? Am I right or wrong?
PP.That's an excellent theory on paper. The only problem is there are very few Pinays in the 40-50 age bracket that are of rootable quality. After having eaten three meals of rice a day for 40 years and being allergic to exercise, the vast majority are fat and ugly. You will find the rare pretty, slim one, so worth a punt. The good thing is that there is very little competition for women in this age group, so the 1% of lookers you find will be up for it. There are a lot of religious fruitcakes in this bracket and plenty with mental health issues. You need to be alert. Many are grateful that you are showing them interest as it's been a long time without a root for most.
I have a very pretty 42 year old on my list. I was meant to meet her last year, but she was off to Thailand with another horny monger on vacation at that time. I will follow up with her for sure when things go back to normal. In her youth, she would have been model quality. She now has three kids and life is hard for her. I bet she did not think 20 years ago that she would be picking up mongers on PL in exchange for money. Fate and destiny.
I also have a pretty masseuse in her 40's in Manila who is highly fuckable. I have not tried any romance with her and she must be surprised that I was behaving very professionally when she has visited my hotel room. Not even a HJ. Hahaha. Post Covid, many will have changed their attitudes towards paid sex, so this lady would be worth a shot too.
Has anyone played this pool of pinay pussy? Am I right or wrong?
PP.I chatted then met an attractive 47 year old, double degree business and law. Country manager of a large US corporation. She had been married and was getting that totally annulled and clearing herself for her new life.
We dated a bit and we did have some bedroom fun. She was caring and nice in bed. She was playing the game for keeps whereas I was there for fun.
I decided she was out of my league as I wasn't looking long term so I got out of her life.
Do remember that the older woman selection pool will be quite small. Limited women will have been educated and will have had limited career opportunity. Age and sex discrimination are rife in Ph.
I do have a mate who found and married a 45 year old woman. Her qualities are good mum, good cook, caring and honest woman.
Others may have other experience.
Muzungufotsy
12-23-20, 17:12
In preparation for my next trip I am actively trying to connect and chat some older and attractive 45+ women.Attractive 45+ women don't exist anywhere in the world and certainly not in P. I. Here at 18 most of them already have fat bodies so at 45 after many pregnancies jollibee every day and zero sport no f. G way!
In preparation for my next trip I am actively trying to connect and chat some older and attractive 45+ women.
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Has anyone played this pool of pinay pussy? Am I right or wrong?
PP.I have played there. It is not a big pool as many locals at 40+ years are not worth the effort. Fat, baby damage, too many kids, relatives and other hangers on etc.
The few I have found in that pool that meet my minimums of looks, BMI and attitude have been very satisfying.
I have played there. It is not a big pool as many locals at 40+ years are not worth the effort. Fat, baby damage, too many kids, relatives and other hangers on etc.
The few I have found in that pool that meet my minimums of looks, BMI and attitude have been very satisfying.I have found that the "Brave New World" ahead of us is going to be made up of setting up connections on apps like Meet Me and Skout. I have run across several in the age range that you are looking for. And with one have sort of set up an arrangement where I buy a few "gifts" from the chats and she gets them, and then we set up with an offline WhatsApp account where I can do the more private video chatting and sending of more X-rated pics on their part. Those sites will pay the girls dollar amounts based on points. So if a girl gets 80,000 points that equals to about $200 they send to them via Pay Pal. I've seen some with upwards of 700,000 to a few million points, all generated from basically sitting in a room and chatting with guys from across the world, since by and large most Pinoys don't have the money to spend (not my words theirs).
In a way that method is the best way to lay the ground work. Drop few coins on some Google bucks and buy points to give. With starting off with video chats, you can lay the ground work on seeing where they stand and what they will do. Once you get in the position where you are known to be a donator, the ice will break, WhatsApps will be exchanged and then the more private details of setting up meetings when you get there can take place.
I find that if you do prefer the older models, this is the best way to go forward. It would be somewhat foolish to try to ply a younger one with over 2,000,000 points from just online to try to go for a hook up since they have figured out an easier way to not deal with a Lurker and still come out ahead. There are some more older ones that may not have that many and after you get them feeling comfortable with a few donations, then they would be more willing to come visit with you since they know you are at least willing to spend on them. My advice, don't just start off with "I'm coming to the PI and would like to meet during a live stream" just bide your time, donate a few points, get the private inbox and start working from that angle. I actually have a full plate on my hands for my next trip down there without having to spend all night in a bar with loud music, and putting up with a lot of BS.
Remember, there will still be the ones there you can walk and pick up no problem, but if you want to at least have a specific type lined up, I would suggest going to Meet Me or Scout and starting there. Even better, if you are in the USA and they are in the PI and with the time difference they are up while it is the middle of the night there and your daytime, odds are those are the ones that you can start off with getting things set up.
Attractive 45+ women don't exist anywhere in the world and certainly not in P. I. Here at 18 most of them already have fat bodies so at 45 after many pregnancies jollibee every day and zero sport no f. G way!I disagree. There are some still out there, just not where you expect to see them. See my post explaining how to find them on Meet Me / Tagged / Skout or whatever app you use.
Muzungufotsy
12-24-20, 11:16
I disagree. There are some still out there, just not where you expect to see them. See my post explaining how to find them on Meet Me / Tagged / Skout or whatever app you use.They are all yours! I don't spend time looking for grannies.
I disagree. There are some still out there, just not where you expect to see them. See my post explaining how to find them on Meet Me / Tagged / Skout or whatever app you use.I matched with two just today, one on Tinder the other on PL.
We have exchanged messages and it is looking positive for both. They are close enough to actually be able to meet me with no ravel issues.
I have played there. It is not a big pool as many locals at 40+ years are not worth the effort. Fat, baby damage, too many kids, relatives and other hangers on etc..Concur. The oldest I will go is about 30.
Attractive 45+ women don't exist anywhere in the world and certainly not in P. I. Here at 18 most of them already have fat bodies so at 45 after many pregnancies jollibee every day and zero sport no f. G way!Nowhere in the world? You are either 15 or don't get out much.
In preparation for my next trip I am actively trying to connect and chat some older and attractive 45+ women.
My theory is this:
If they still look good at 45+ then they take care of themselves and they are of a higher class than the average girl. So they will be more mentally stimulating and more interested in doing non sexual adult things.
As they still look good they will get my interest and I think they should be easy to fuck and to keep a string of them on the line. And to be honest a good looking older woman is hot in my opinion.
Thirdly I think I won't have to teach them EVERYTHING and they will be even more appreciative.
Has anyone played this pool of pinay pussy? Am I right or wrong?
PP.I hope you get some good responses on this topic. I have posed a similar question before, and get some stupid replies like you have already received, IE. There are no attractive women over 40, all women on all 7000 islands over 40 are fat and ugly, etc.
In the USA, I have dated a few stunners (Filipina) over 40, even into the 50's. I do find on the dating sites in Phil, the lookers in the late 40's and up are fewer and farther between, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. I almost hooked up a year ago with a good looking 50 something, checked her out on video chat. She wanted to bring her sister, so I passed. I did have a couple of working girls at LA Cafe that said they were in their 40's, I was surprised by that age. But, it is definitely something that I want to check out. However, I am not sure about he more mentally stimulation part, at least for the usual dating site chicks. In my limited search, the replies are often just as stupid sounding as the young ones.
Anyway, good luck getting more info than having someone bragging about shagging 19 year olds.
Hey guys, how's it going?
Been twice to The Philippines, and planning to go there as soon as the pandemic slows down.
I go there solo, I love travelling alone, I feel free. So one of the things that I've never done is planning a party with 4 or 5 girls in my place.
Is it worth a try? Or it's just a headache and not worth the hassle?
How much would cost me having 5 girls? And how much is a case of local beer there?
Hey guys, how's it going?
Been twice to The Philippines, and planning to go there as soon as the pandemic slows down.
I go there solo, I love travelling alone, I feel free. So one of the things that I've never done is planning a party with 4 or 5 girls in my place.
Is it worth a try? Or it's just a headache and not worth the hassle?
How much would cost me having 5 girls? And how much is a case of local beer there?Easiest thing for you to do is not to plan. Just go into any favorite bar, especially on a night where there isn't a lot of action, and you will be able to accomplish what you want by just asking. Best bet is to try for a group that don't want to seem to be away from each other, but be careful of the Alpha female she may tend to put a kink in it unless you pay her more than the rest and don't tell each how much you pay.
Mr Enternational
12-24-20, 21:19
The fact is that the notoriety of Filipinas of all classes is documented in numerous distinguished journalistic rags around the world. The overwhelming evidence indicates that they are the women the highest Root Conversion Factor on the planet. Along with this high rate of promiscuity comes the other highly undesirable traits that ED described. Bluntly put, they are not marriage material for any man who can do better.When I was in the Navy in San Diego and the ship left, nobody ran to the club where all the white chicks hangout. Everybody made a bee line to the Trophy Lounge to pick up some of those saintly Filipinas whose husbands left earlier that day.
Most of the time you did not even have to wait until he left town. Chick took me to her house one night; I did not even know she was married. Turns out her husband is a drill instructor on the Marine base and he is across town at work because it was his night to stay with the recruits. I was fucking his woman and drinking his beer and playing his Nintendo. I was like this is a perfect setup for a guy. She was like yeah I have a husband.
Then you had other chicks whose husbands were cucks and you could just be sitting in his living room with his wife when he came home. One thing about those broads though, if you were not following their script they would always threaten to run to your commanding officer. That is why you did not want to get too attached to them. Hit them a couple of times and move on.
Mr Enternational
12-24-20, 21:45
And with one have sort of set up an arrangement where I buy a few "gifts" from the chats and she gets them,
In a way that method is the best way to lay the ground work. Drop few coins on some Google bucks and buy points to give. Once you get in the position where you are known to be a donator, the ice will break,Why do you need to pay some chick to talk to her? You realize that the way you start is the way she will always expect? Are you that insecure that you must lead with your wallet? It is cases like these where it saves time and money getting a hooker. You don't need money and gifts to bag a normal woman; especially one you have never met.
I matched with two just today, one on Tinder the other on PL.
We have exchanged messages and it is looking positive for both. They are close enough to actually be able to meet me with no ravel issues.Don't forget to buy them some google gifts.
Mr Enternational
12-24-20, 21:57
Been twice to The Philippines, and planning to go there as soon as the pandemic slows down. So one of the things that I've never done is planning a party with 4 or 5 girls in my place.And what will you be doing while all 5 of them are socializing with each other and on their phones?
PedroMorales
12-24-20, 22:39
I had to scroll down to see your words of wisdom. Many Pinays are pure as snow. However, any Pinay linked to anyone on this site has most likely only bonked around twice: once with their father and once with the US 7th Fleet.
Engine Driver drives home some very salient points about Filipinas and their nature. Mongers married to Filipinas will always say, "Oh, there are exceptions. Filipinas are actually saints. You must not have been to Heaven and met them like I did. " The fact is that the notoriety of Filipinas of all classes is documented in numerous distinguished journalistic rags around the world. The overwhelming evidence indicates that they are the women the highest Root Conversion Factor on the planet. Along with this high rate of promiscuity comes the other highly undesirable traits that ED described. Bluntly put, they are not marriage material for any man who can do better.
The great white shark, (Carcharodon carcharias), does not generally eat men. However, enough great white sharks have eaten or taste tested a large enough number of men to the point that it is considered foolish to swim in waters where they are present and actively feeding. The same applies with serious long-term relationships and marriage to Filipinas. More than enough of them have eaten more than foreign men's cum to make a general sense of caution warranted in dealings with them.
And what will you be doing while all 5 of them are socializing with each other and on their phones?I would have all 5 bent over in a circle and go from one to another K9 style. Couldn't care if they are socializing or on their cp or filing their nails.
Easiest thing for you to do is not to plan. Just go into any favorite bar, especially on a night where there isn't a lot of action, and you will be able to accomplish what you want by just asking. Best bet is to try for a group that don't want to seem to be away from each other, but be careful of the Alpha female she may tend to put a kink in it unless you pay her more than the rest and don't tell each how much you pay.That's easy, but how much would it cost for each girl?
And what will you be doing while all 5 of them are socializing with each other and on their phones?Making them drunk will solve this problem I think.
WestCoast1
12-25-20, 12:56
She was like yeah I have a husband.In general, its better to stay away from a married girls. Assuming you know in advance. But like ME, I have hit quite a number of such gals, only to find out later (sometimes years later, after she's become a regular) that she's hitched. Not to say that's a pinay thing; have had such happen in my home country and several others.
Mr Enternational
12-25-20, 15:06
In preparation for my next trip I am actively trying to connect and chat some older and attractive 45+ women.Well you asked for it.
Wicked Roger
12-25-20, 21:08
And what will you be doing while all 5 of them are socializing with each other and on their phones?In my case when I had 6 in the room they were all bisexual, with very naughty pussy eating sisters who enjoyed each also.
And as DG said I had them bent over at times but also enjoyed a full on lesbian spectacle also. No mobiles just lots of good fun and debauchery for my birthday.
Need to be creative buy many have never experienced it and I think are scared by it. Others consider it normal behavior LOL.
Soapy Smith
12-26-20, 06:30
Well you asked for it.He said over 45, not 65. Are these some of the regulars you talk about?
Soapy Smith
12-27-20, 09:28
Attractive 45+ women don't exist anywhere in the world and certainly not in P. I. !Well known women at age 45: Jane Fonda (1982), Halle Berry (2011), Elle Macpherson (2009), Jennifer Anniston (2015), Sofia Vergara (2017). Sweeping generalizations about Filipinas are par for the course in the Phils Forum, but now another whole class of sweeping generalizations.
WestCoast1
12-27-20, 10:44
Attractive 45+ women don't exist anywhere in the world and certainly not in P. I. Here at 18 most of them already have fat bodies so at 45 after many pregnancies jollibee every day and zero sport no f. G way!
They are all yours! I don't spend time looking for grannies.To each his own. I also don't go looking for grannies, but I have dated several girls my age (or older) over the years, in several different countries. As long as I find them attractive, all is good. Not every f*ck needs to look like a porn star. Fat ladies also. More important is level of nawty desire.
Engine Driver
12-27-20, 12:20
Well known women at age 45: Jane Fonda (1982), Halle Berry (2011), Elle Macpherson (2009), Jennifer Anniston (2015), Sofia Vergara (2017). Sweeping generalizations about Filipinas are par for the course in the Phils Forum, but now another whole class of sweeping generalizations.It's been written on this forum before that after the age of 40, Filipinas start to resemble brown, walking refrigerators. 4'11" high and 4'11" wide. What's the difference between a 40 year old Filipina and a fridge? A fridge fucks better and is less greedy.
Unlike those Hollywood starlets, the average Filipina does not have access to plastic surgery, personal trainers, a high protein diet or expensive cosmetics to look like a million dollars haha. Now some old timer on this board will pull me up for making sweeping generalizations and tell me that I haven't visited all 7,000 islands to be sure hahahaha.
Mr Enternational
12-27-20, 13:53
Well known women at age 45: Jane Fonda (1982), Halle Berry (2011), Elle Macpherson (2009), Jennifer Anniston (2015), Sofia Vergara (2017). Sweeping generalizations about Filipinas are par for the course in the Phils Forum, but now another whole class of sweeping generalizations.Now show us the good looking Filipinas of the same ages. No need for them to be well known.
Geneva Guy
12-27-20, 18:20
Ahhh. The holiday season. Out of the blue after many years, I was contacted by a filipina I had flown over to Singapore for 2 weeks of fun back in 2013. Since then, she took a maid job in the Middle East and haven't seen or heard from her for years (except when she sent me a picture of her dead brother in a clear plastic coffin some years back, very classy).
About 2 weeks ago, she contacted me (first time in many years). Now she is back in PHIL, not working overseas, one kid has a couple of her own kids, other kid needs to go to college soon. And, she is building a house for her parents (sent pics, got 2 walls up not much more). On top of this, sent some pics of herself, gained about 30 pounds since we met for fun many years ago, yikes (too bad cause she had a nice body and cute face and loved to fuck).
After hemming and hawing via email over a 2 week period, came the big question "can you send me money to pay my mortgage"? The answer was "NO".
I give her credit for waiting 2 whole weeks before asking, that's the most patience I have seen in a filipina!
GG.
Pinaypounder
12-27-20, 18:59
Attractive 45+ women don't exist anywhere in the world and certainly not in P. I. Here at 18 most of them already have fat bodies so at 45 after many pregnancies jollibee every day and zero sport no f. G way!I of course disagree and I am glad that you are so clueless. I am guessing you are young.
I have rarely had a decent encounter with a brown women under 30 and I have tested about 300 in total so far.
I will enjoy them (the good looking classy older ladies) with a few learned others on this board.
One day Grasshopper you will become a man and realize what you are missing.
Luckily for now we are still "free" but not for long me thinks.
PP.
Mr Enternational
12-27-20, 19:04
About 2 weeks ago, she contacted me (first time in many years).
After hemming and hawing via email over a 2 week period, came the big question "can you send me money to pay my mortgage"? The answer was "NO".You speak like this was 2 decades ago instead of 2 weeks ago. Email? Haven't you guys heard of whatsapp?
Wicked Roger
12-27-20, 23:57
I of course disagree and I am glad that you are so clueless. I am guessing you are young.
I have rarely had a decent encounter with a brown women under 30 and I have tested about 300 in total so far.
I will enjoy them (the good looking classy older ladies) with a few learned others on this board.
One day Grasshopper you will become a man and realize what you are missing.
Luckily for now we are still "free" but not for long me thinks.
PP.I would agree with PP but the ones I meet as few and far between I must say but are slim, sexy and kinky etc.
I prefer them under 25 like most on the forum but when you do fin one / two older MILFs / GILFs they can be a surprise. And their figure would at times easily beat a 25 yo pinay who love of fast food is already showing.
I think the words 'good looking. Classy' are key ones as many referred to by others would never pass that test and they are avoided by me like the plague.
Just some idea of what I mean in the photos. We all like different flavours gents so what is my fav for the day won't be your I know but these are the only 2 MILF / GILFs I have played with and one is still actively enjoying herself (as some of my friends will testify LOL).
Soapy Smith
12-28-20, 00:00
Now show us the good looking Filipinas of the same ages. No need for them to be well known.So, Caucasian and African-American women can be attractive at 45, but not Filipinas? Comes across just a bit racist, don't you think? Both WC and KG suggest they've found a few older ladies that they find passable.
My first experience with Filipina p4s was 14 years ago at LAC. I had read about the legendary place but had no idea what to expect inside. It was a Friday evening about 5 pm and there were few men present. A waitress ushered me to one of the many empty bar stools near the front door. I was a sitting a little sideways so I could check out women off to the left of the bar. Before the waitress could deliver my beer, two women caught my gaze and embarked on my stool. One moved in between my legs and immediately pressed up against my thighs, and the other stood close just to my left. All the usual questions: "what's your name, where you from, how long you been in the Philippines, how long you staying," etc. ? Then, "do you have a hotel room"? "Yes, at Las Palmas. " "Do you want a girl"? Truth was, both seemed passable to me, so I said, "well that's a problem, because it's hard to choose between the two of you. " The one to my left said, "you can take both of us, I'll go for a thousand pesos. " The one between my legs said, "me too. " I finished my beer and off we went.
Back in my room one suggested showering together, and we did. From conversation I learned that one was 23 and had a baby in Samar. The other said she was 44 and was being supported by a Japanese boyfriend. She had not had children. The younger one was a real good fuck, but the older one was really tight. We eventually accomplished the deed and I finished with her. Aside from the tight tunnel, she was attractive enough that I would have taken her again if I were encountering her for the first time. When I first met her I mentally put her age at about 30.
I have usually sought out younger women, but the sweeping generalization that there are no attractive Filipinas above age 45 is just that: a sweeping generalization.
Mr Enternational
12-28-20, 00:41
So, Caucasian and African-American women can be attractive at 45, but not Filipinas? Comes across just a bit racist, don't you think? Both WC and KG suggest they've found a few older ladies that they find passable.Maybe there is a thin line between racism and the truth. If I said Danish women are tall would that be racist or a fact? It is the truth that islanders are not known to age well. It is the same in Dominican Republic. A chick tells you she is 40 but she looks 60. Once most of them turn 30 then their bodies go downhill. That is just the consequences of island life and nothing to do with being against someone due to their race. Maybe it is more ageism?
I went to Hong Kong looking to fuck an old dragon lady so I have nothing against it, but you are not going to catch me saying how attractive an old ass dragon lady is.
I have usually sought out younger women, but the sweeping generalization that there are no attractive Filipinas above age 45 is just that: a sweeping generalization.4 paragraphs of defending them, yet still no pictures of these elder beauties. You can show us better than you can tell us.
Maybe there is a thin line between racism and the truth. If I said Danish women are tall would that be racist or a fact? It is the truth that islanders are not known to age well. It is the same in Dominican Republic. A chick tells you she is 40 but she looks 60. Once most of them turn 30 then their bodies go downhill. That is just the consequences of island life and nothing to do with being against someone due to their race. Maybe it is more ageism?
I went to Hong Kong looking to fuck an old dragon lady so I have nothing against it, but you are not going to catch me saying how attractive an old ass dragon lady is.
4 paragraphs of defending them, yet still no pictures of these elder beauties. You can show us better than you can tell us.Not racist, IMO, but an ignorant generalization to say that all women in a whole country over a certain age can't be attractive. The original poster was asking about experiences with 40+, not asking whether he should or shouldn't. [Deleted by Admin]
Soapy Smith
12-28-20, 06:36
Maybe there is a thin line between racism and the truth.
It is the truth that islanders are not known to age well. It is the same in Dominican Republic. A chick tells you she is 40 but she looks 60. Once most of them turn 30 then their bodies go downhill. That is just the consequences of island life and nothing to do with being against someone due to their race. Maybe it is more ageism?
4 paragraphs of defending them, yet still no pictures of these elder beauties. You can show us better than you can tell us.Are you familiar with the expression, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try baffling them with bullshit"? Basically you got caught with your dick hanging out. It's not ageism and it's not "truth," it's straight-up racism. And here you are laying out more of it: "it is the truth that islanders" don't age well. Really, are you now a physical anthropologist? Please provide the evidence: you can show us rather than tell us. I'm sure you can come up with some pictures of ugly women, but that proves only what kind of people you hang with. Another sweeping generalization that you can't prove.
Unlike some of our photographically-inclined brethren, I don't take photos of the women I've been with. And, unable to get to the Philippines, I'm damn sure not going to do it now. But I have an informed hunch that a few older women have actually adorned the Phils photo gallery. Notice that the photographers rarely report on the women's ages.
Soapy Smith
12-28-20, 07:24
It took me five minutes to find these two photos on the internet. I don't know who they are and don't know their ages, but I'd bet they're both at least well into their 40's. I suspect one of the reasons Western mongers don't see the more attractive older Filipinas is that those women are living better lives. Lives of poverty, as is typical for Filipinas in prostitution, is what ages some Filipinas. It's not island life per se.
I visited one of our expat members in the Phils a couple years ago. He's quite a bit older than his wife, and she is an attractive woman in her mid 40's. A friend in the states married a Filipina waitress he met in Hong Kong. She's about 20 years younger than him and now in her late 40's. She is gorgeous.
Some of our well-established expats remind us all the time that the slice of women most mongers are exposed to are poor women with hard lives. They are not representative of all Filipinas. The Philippines is a whole lot bigger than bars in Angeles, Cebu, Ermita, and Burgos.
Mr Enternational
12-28-20, 07:25
Are you familiar with the expression, "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, try baffling them with bullshit"? Basically you got caught with your dick hanging out. It's not ageism and it's not "truth," it's straight-up racism. And here you are laying out more of it: "it is the truth that islanders" don't age well. Really, are you now a physical anthropologist?I am a Black dude from the ghetto that speaks 5 languages and has a Masters in International Business simply because I like different cultures. I have lived in Brazil, France, South Africa, Thailand. I have been to over 100 countries and have had girlfriends in more countries than I care to take the time to count. So yes, maybe I fit the profile of being a tad bit racist. And since you bring it up, I was headed for a PhD in that very thing, but the Anthropology program at Emory University was only going to give me $19,000 per year so I decided against it.
Unlike some of our photographically-inclined brethren, I don't take photos of the women I've been with. And, unable to get to the Philippines, I'm damn sure not going to do it now. But I have an informed hunch that a few older women have actually adorned the Phils photo gallery. Notice that the photographers rarely report on the women's ages.So it was so easy to pull up pictures of Halle Berry and whoever else, but going on a dating site and setting the search age to 45 to find examples was a heavy workload. Nevermind. I have taken 30 seconds to do it for you. Now everyone can judge for themselves what they think of 45 year old Filipinas.
Soapy Smith
12-28-20, 07:48
I am a Black dude from the ghetto that speaks 5 languages and has a Masters in International Business simply because I like different cultures. I have lived in Brazil, France, South Africa, Thailand. I have been to over 100 countries and have had girlfriends in more countries than I care to take the time to count. So yes, maybe I fit the profile of being a tad bit racist. And since you bring it up, I was headed for a PhD in that very thing, but the Anthropology program at Emory University was only going to give me $19,000 per year so I decided against it.I'd say you're angry. You got caught with your dick out, somebody pointed it out to you, and you don't like it. Your posts have a pattern that seems like needing to be one-up on others. That and needing to brag about your accomplishments strike me as signs of insecurity. By the way, there's no money in anthropology. If money, travel, and women are what's most important to you, you did the right thing by staying in business. I have nothing else to say about this.
PedroMorales
12-28-20, 09:38
I am a Black dude from the ghetto.And an ability to be in Colombia and Thailand in the same week. I looked in on the Peru thread and there he was, spouting away. No wonder civilised people avoid them.
GoodEnough
12-28-20, 14:47
It took me five minutes to find these two photos on the internet. I don't know who they are and don't know their ages, but I'd bet they're both at least well into their 40's. I suspect one of the reasons Western mongers don't see the more attractive older Filipinas is that those women are living better lives. Lives of poverty, as is typical for Filipinas in prostitution, is what ages some Filipinas. It's not island life per se.
I visited one of our expat members in the Phils a couple years ago. He's quite a bit older than his wife, and she is an attractive woman in her mid 40's. A friend in the states married a Filipina waitress he met in Hong Kong. She's about 20 years younger than him and now in her late 40's. She is gorgeous.
Some of our well-established expats remind us all the time that the slice of women most mongers are exposed to are poor women with hard lives. They are not representative of all Filipinas. The Philippines is a whole lot bigger than bars in Angeles, Cebu, Ermita, and Burgos.I suspect that the "not aging well" hypothesis derives from the sub sample of Filipinas who are largely from rural areas, for the most part not well educated and who have spent much of their lives in hard, manual labor. A life of subsistence farming, toiling in all weather year after year, is not particularly conducive to maintaining one's looks, let alone top physical health. There is, as Mr. Smith points out, a strong correlation between the devastating effects of poverty and the maintenance of physical attractiveness. As Mr. Smith accurately states, it's not attributable to island life per se, but to socio-economic circumstances. For those capable of and willing to lift their eyes and expectations a bit beyond the bar girl / tinder / prostitution scene, there is a broad vista of alternative possibilities. But, exploring that world takes a bit of work, some persistence, and the commitment to broadening one's horizons a bit. I understand that those here for only a limited time and dedicated to two or three weeks of pure hedonism may not be willing to make the effort and that's understandable. But it is illuminating perhaps to realize that this country offers a plethora of other opportunities unavailable in normal monger venues.
GE.
Chocha Monger
12-28-20, 15:29
Maybe there is a thin line between racism and the truth. If I said Danish women are tall would that be racist or a fact? It is the truth that islanders are not known to age well. It is the same in Dominican Republic. A chick tells you she is 40 but she looks 60. Once most of them turn 30 then their bodies go downhill. That is just the consequences of island life and nothing to do with being against someone due to their race. Maybe it is more ageism?
I went to Hong Kong looking to fuck an old dragon lady so I have nothing against it, but you are not going to catch me saying how attractive an old ass dragon lady is.The phenomenon of Filipinas turning into monsters at the age of 40 years is not just limited to the Philippines. Pinays who live relatively easy lives in the USA also blow up and turn into hideous hags at 40. Filipina crones fishing for foreign cocks online tend to be very high mileage and experienced in separating mongers from their money. They are online in the hopes of landing some doltish monger with enough cash to support them and their large extended family.
There is plenty of old pussy available in the USA, Canada, UK, and Europe. Unless it is just a peculiar fetish for fucking geriatric dragon ladies, there is really no need for mongers to be flying halfway around the world to engage in such. If Western geriatric mongers want to travel to the Philippines to fuck geriatric dragon ladies and call them attractive, that is their privilege. It does not make sense but that is what they want to do in their twilight years. They are entitled to have their shriveled marshmallows sucked by as many hideous hags as they can handle.
Mr Enternational
12-28-20, 15:32
I'd say you're angry. You got caught with your dick out, somebody pointed it out to you, and you don't like it. Your posts have a pattern that seems like needing to be one-up on others. That and needing to brag about your accomplishments strike me as signs of insecurity. By the way, there's no money in anthropology. If money, travel, and women are what's most important to you, you did the right thing by staying in business. I have nothing else to say about this.Sorry brother. I have never done things soley because of money. I do things mostly because I enjoy them and then money usually falls into place. And because I am explaining how there is no way I could be racist means that I am bragging and trying to one up? Make that make sense. If I was bragging, then I have EARNED that right! You say it like it is a bad thing. Why shouldn't the Patriots brag that they have won so many Superbowls? Why shouldn't the Lakers brag that they have won so many championships? They did put in the work to earn them.
I suspect that the "not aging well" hypothesis derives from the sub sample of Filipinas who are largely from rural areas, for the most part not well educated and who have spent much of their lives in hard, manual labor. A life of subsistence farming, toiling in all weather year after year, is not particularly conducive to maintaining one's looks, let alone top physical health. There is, as Mr. Smith points out, a strong correlation between the devastating effects of poverty and the maintenance of physical attractiveness. As Mr. Smith accurately states, it's not attributable to island life per se, but to socio-economic circumstances. For those capable of and willing to lift their eyes and expectations a bit beyond the bar girl / tinder / prostitution scene, there is a broad vista of alternative possibilities. But, exploring that world takes a bit of work, some persistence, and the commitment to broadening one's horizons a bit. I understand that those here for only a limited time and dedicated to two or three weeks of pure hedonism may not be willing to make the effort and that's understandable. But it is illuminating perhaps to realize that this country offers a plethora of other opportunities unavailable in normal monger venues.
GE.In regards to "not aging well" a lot of it has to do with the lifestyle the woman lives. I've seen many women (and men) who if they go out every night drinking, and don't forget eating at all hours of the night, and then spending the better part of the next day in bed to do it all over again that will age the body more than your ethnicity or where you come from. I've seen great changes in the "new girl" showing up at the old Trophy Lounge club (home of the ex-Pinay bar girls who married Sailors and moved to San Diego) and in a matter of just two years the constant going out just about every night, working and then going back out drinking and late nights at Denny's will add pounds and wrinkles to the point where they look liked seasoned pros by the end of two years.
And I have seen and dated one who was 14 years older than me (at the time in my early 30's and now in my 50's) and she still looks better and more attractive then women half her age and she is in her late 60's. It's all about how they take care of themselves and what the do that has a lot to determine how they may look later in life.
Pinaypounder
12-28-20, 17:54
I am glad we are having a decent chat about the older girls.
Now I offer another perspective and invite your comments.
I would rather have a 6 that fucks me like her very life depended upon her having multiple orgasms rather than a nine who is there to collect the cash. I think I already know the thoughts of a few of you trophy collectors.
Now there are physical limits I have to find the person attractive but that can take many forms and many a non beauty has overcome their physichal limitations with a sexual hunger that is simply wonderful. And abnormal I have even had great sex with what I would call 2 fat women, they just needed cock so badly.
The worst sex I have had in the Phils is with barely 20's girls that can't take a larger cock and one time I bedded the most physically perfect woman of my dreams and it was just so bad I still whimper in the night. My #1 girl there is an aging 7 soon to be in the 40 plus crowd but the sweet thing is very bi and can not spell the word NO lest alone say it.
Your thoughts?
When I was in the Navy in San Diego and the ship left, nobody ran to the club where all the white chicks hangout. Everybody made a bee line to the Trophy Lounge to pick up some of those saintly Filipinas whose husbands left earlier that day.
Most of the time you did not even have to wait until he left town. Chick took me to her house one night; I did not even know she was married. Turns out her husband is a drill instructor on the Marine base and he is across town at work because it was his night to stay with the recruits. I was fucking his woman and drinking his beer and playing his Nintendo. I was like this is a perfect setup for a guy. She was like yeah I have a husband.
Then you had other chicks whose husbands were cucks and you could just be sitting in his living room with his wife when he came home. One thing about those broads though, if you were not following their script they would always threaten to run to your commanding officer. That is why you did not want to get too attached to them. Hit them a couple of times and move on.I had similar experiences from 1990-98 while in San Diego, and lest not forget the same type of things of the "WESTPAC Widows" in Hawaii running to Gussie L'amours or the 19th Puka over on Pearl Harbor. I know of one lady that had to change her cell phone number when her husband's ship was coming back from deployment because she was out there too fast and too long. Funny how they would get jealous if you left them to make a claim somewhere else all the while they are married with boyfriends.
I suspect that the "not aging well" hypothesis derives from the sub sample of Filipinas who are largely from rural areas, for the most part not well educated and who have spent much of their lives in hard, manual labor. A life of subsistence farming, toiling in all weather year after year, is not particularly conducive to maintaining one's looks, let alone top physical health. There is, as Mr. Smith points out, a strong correlation between the devastating effects of poverty and the maintenance of physical attractiveness. As Mr. Smith accurately states, it's not attributable to island life per se, but to socio-economic circumstances. For those capable of and willing to lift their eyes and expectations a bit beyond the bar girl / tinder / prostitution scene, there is a broad vista of alternative possibilities. But, exploring that world takes a bit of work, some persistence, and the commitment to broadening one's horizons a bit. I understand that those here for only a limited time and dedicated to two or three weeks of pure hedonism may not be willing to make the effort and that's understandable. But it is illuminating perhaps to realize that this country offers a plethora of other opportunities unavailable in normal monger venues.
GE.95% correct GE. You have to discount because some of these guys would not be able to fit into the necessary social class to attract the ageless beauty. Nor do they have the social skills let alone the physical looks to compete for the beauties.
Mr Enternational
12-28-20, 20:06
Now I offer another perspective and invite your comments.
I would rather have a 6 that fucks me like her very life depended upon her having multiple orgasms rather than a nine who is there to collect the cash.My thought is why not get a 9 that fucks you like her life depended on it rather than a 6 who is there to collect the cash? Seems like you are making an excuse for having a 6 instead of a 9.
I would rather have a Big Mac in a paper box than have a shit sandwich on a diamond encrusted gold plate. Why can't the Big Mac be on the plate instead of the shit sandwich?
Engine Driver
12-28-20, 20:31
95% correct GE. You have to discount because some of these guys would not be able to fit into the necessary social class to attract the ageless beauty. Nor do they have the social skills let alone the physical looks to compete for the beauties.You are very correct sir. There are not too many Idris Elba or Don Draper clones wandering around the Philippines looking to root illiterate Filipinas in the slums of Cebu. They can get as much white pussy as they want for free in their home countries. It is only the twice divorced, overweight, aging mongers with two-inch limp marshmallows that go looking for desperate Filipinas. It is not a sport to be proud of not discuss in polite circles. Prove me wrong.
Ho ho ho Merry Christmas.
Pinaypounder
12-28-20, 21:18
My thought is why not get a 9 that fucks you like her life depended on it rather than a 6 who is there to collect the cash? Seems like you are making an excuse for having a 6 instead of a 9.
I would rather have a Big Mac in a paper box than have a shit sandwich on a diamond encrusted gold plate. Why can't the Big Mac be on the plate instead of the shit sandwich?Of course BUT how often does that happen?
PP.
GoodEnough
12-28-20, 22:50
95% correct GE. You have to discount because some of these guys would not be able to fit into the necessary social class to attract the ageless beauty. Nor do they have the social skills let alone the physical looks to compete for the beauties.Thanks, you're likely correct.
PedroMorales
12-28-20, 22:53
Surely you have seen the wizened marshmallows yourself, slobbering around Angeles and other backwaters, wearing t shirts trike drivers wouldn't use on their bikes (the ones with pedals, not the two legged ones). Then you have their fare: big fried junk at pesos per 1000 calories. One of the attractions of these women General Yamashita's finest ditched in 1945 is they will do anything for a buck (a dollar, as the buck studs are gone). The trike drivers regard their grannies getting jobs reigning on these Bore War veterans as no different from landing a job in a chicken plucking factory: dirty but it pays well and covers the Red Bull bills.
I try to stay fit and often walk up to 40 km a day. I met this other older guy (a ghetto thug like so many here), who was in tip top shape from walking 40 km and much more every day. I asked him ("it") what proteins did he eat. He didn't even know what proteins were. He just burned off whatever his wife gave him.
These women, their marshmallows and their trike drivers won't burn off much drinking Red Bull all day. One of the funny things about Angeles is how many of the hookers look like they are from Central casting: cheap make up, smoking and so on, cheap cheap cheap. I guess with the trike drivers boning them all day long and pimping them out to their chums, sleep takes a back seat to yabba. Their Thai sisters do seem to eat vegetables a lot more.
Theya re, of course, good marriage material for the marshmallows who would chase them if they still had the use of their legs.
The phenomenon of Filipinas turning into monsters at the age of 40 years is not just limited to the Philippines. Pinays who live relatively easy lives in the USA also blow up and turn into hideous hags at 40. Filipina crones fishing for foreign cocks online tend to be very high mileage and experienced in separating mongers from their money. They are online in the hopes of landing some doltish monger with enough cash to support them and their large extended family.
There is plenty of old pussy available in the USA, Canada, UK, and Europe. Unless it is just a peculiar fetish for fucking geriatric dragon ladies, there is really no need for mongers to be flying halfway around the world to engage in such. If Western geriatric mongers want to travel to the Philippines to fuck geriatric dragon ladies and call them attractive, that is their privilege. It does not make sense but that is what they want to do in their twilight years. They are entitled to have their shriveled marshmallows sucked by as many hideous hags as they can handle.
AussieGaigin
12-28-20, 23:45
"Filipinas don't age well"?
Come to the shopping malls in western Sydney and see all the 20-30 year old women who are the size of small cars.
I am glad we are having a decent chat about the older girls.
Now I offer another perspective and invite your comments.
I would rather have a 6 that fucks me like her very life depended upon her having multiple orgasms rather than a nine who is there to collect the cash. I think I already know the thoughts of a few of you trophy collectors.
Now there are physical limits I have to find the person attractive but that can take many forms and many a non beauty has overcome their physichal limitations with a sexual hunger that is simply wonderful. And abnormal I have even had great sex with what I would call 2 fat women, they just needed cock so badly.
The worst sex I have had in the Phils is with barely 20's girls that can't take a larger cock and one time I bedded the most physically perfect woman of my dreams and it was just so bad I still whimper in the night. My #1 girl there is an aging 7 soon to be in the 40 plus crowd but the sweet thing is very bi and can not spell the word NO lest alone say it.
Your thoughts?I find doggy style with a finger up the arse enlivens them.
"Filipinas don't age well"?
Come to the shopping malls in western Sydney and see all the 20-30 year old women who are the size of small cars.I will never forget returning to my hometown in Texas after spending 7 months in China. The first morning back I had to make a quick run to Wal-Mart. As I was walking toward the main entrance there was a woman if front of me I swear that had an ass so wide that three Asian women could have stood side by side by side and not been as wide as that ass.
My thought is why not get a 9 that fucks you like her life depended on it rather than a 6 who is there to collect the cash? Seems like you are making an excuse for having a 6 instead of a 9.
I would rather have a Big Mac in a paper box than have a shit sandwich on a diamond encrusted gold plate. Why can't the Big Mac be on the plate instead of the shit sandwich?Because you have to pay for the Diamond encrusted gold plate. You probably want your Red Horse served in a Waterford Crystal fluted champagne glass at happy hour prices!
PedroMorales
12-29-20, 09:19
GrandmaLibby is 83. She offers her services in Bristol. England on www.adultwork.com only 8,000 PHP an hour. As she caters for ghetto dwelling ethnic minorities (with bad eyesight), she is worth keeping in mind. I'd do her myself only I don't like standing in line. GrandmaLibby has been reviewed 191 times (so she is not a virgin. Sorry). Johnmclaughlin wrote of her on 17/03/2008 at 21:00 "an excellent lady one in a million and outstandingly sexy".
For all you guys married to a Pinay hooker: how much does your wife charge? And can we get a package deal?
I am going to do 40 km today, stock up on Vitamin the. The only exercise most Angeles housewives do is jamming the remote into their orifices. Their intellectual exercises consist of watching cartoons, munching marshmallows and being turned into human kebabs by trike drivers. Maybe GrandmaLibby is a better deal?
Because you have to pay for the Diamond encrusted gold plate. You probably want your Red Horse served in a Waterford Crystal fluted champagne glass at happy hour prices!
95% correct GE. You have to discount because some of these guys would not be able to fit into the necessary social class to attract the ageless beauty. Nor do they have the social skills let alone the physical looks to compete for the beauties.There is an old saying that goes "In the Valley of the Blind, the One Eyed man is King. " So I would imagine that some Lurkers who say what they will and will not accept probably would fit this saying.
GrandmaLibby is 83. Couldn't get in touch with her.
Perhaps you can pm her mobile number?
Seems too good to pass up.
Here's one my buddy found at the nursing home, turning tricks to supplement her pension.
Solid 3 holer, deep kissing, rimming, DATY, golden shower. Total GFE experience.
A real gem.
WestCoast1
01-01-21, 07:29
It took me five minutes to find these two photos on the internet. I don't know who they are and don't know their ages, but I'd bet they're both at least well into their 40's. Second gal, I'd hit that.
I have taken 30 seconds to do it for you. Now everyone can judge for themselves what they think of 45 year old Filipinas.ME, I'm not sure if you are making your case or Soapy's. Of the 50 pics you posted, there are several that I like. Yes of course if you compared this group with a similar group of young 20-something in age, the younger group would probably have a larger number of attractive girls (to me anyway). If you set your dating site to find 45 yo ladies in America, its quite possible that it will turn up just as many fuglies there as it did for Phils (just guessing).
4 paragraphs of defending them, yet still no pictures of these elder beauties. You can show us better than you can tell us.I can't discount older ladies. I find that they make better lovers than p4 p, as they provide a more GFE experience (they are more attentive; as an example they are more likely to provide massage without being asked, or run to the store for me without being asked). I keep one as a regular in most of the cities that I frequent. And I have it on modestly good authoriy that there are attractive aged 40+ ladies posted in the PG. With their faces blurred or heads not showing, it can be difficult to tell what decade of life they are in. Me and my marshmallow are OK to that.
A lot will depend on your age too. I am 65 and using the half plus 7 rule I should be looking at 39 and up ladies. Not sure that rule will apply here but as a guide I have found that I do have a little more in common with women this age. They tend not to be as flighty and scatter brained as the sub 25 year olds.
The BJ queen that I have mentioned here is 40. My 3 some queen who actually likes organizing 3 to 6 some for me, is also in that range.
Now lots of fuglies and brain dead worn out shanks in that cohort but some real gems, at least for me. Very difficult to find no kids no ex husbands for a relationship but there are a few.
AussieGaigin
01-01-21, 10:44
Greetings from Oz.
Well, it is summer here now, and with the easing of COVID restrictions there has been a resurgence of mail order Pinay (or occasional Thai) LBFMs appearing in the shopping malls of Sydney, perhaps stocking up on goodies to pack off to the rel's back home for Chrissie. Mainly dressed in skimpy summer clothes (which may not flatter what is being covered), they hang lovingly close to their ROWM partners, but smile lovingly at any younger males who look at them.
Typical, the other day was a late 20's, maybe 6. 5 - 7 looker, with the geriatric partner who is supporting himself upright on the pram carrying the 12 month old rug-rat heir. I did some quick maths and I could guess that his current income, and surviving assets after he falls off his perch, would keep her living comfortably until the kid is old enough to go to work to support her. In the event of premature widowhood, she could probably even find a RYWM to supplement her lifestyle. These girls have got it made; why suffer in the provinces back home?
Happy New Year to you all in the PI, or trying to get there.
Engine Driver
01-01-21, 12:08
If you set your dating site to find 45 yo ladies in America, its quite possible that it will turn up just as many fuglies there as it did for Phils (just guessing).Your are quite correct. I've been playing around with Tinder in my RWML city today and set the age group to 38-50 as this is what white society would expect me to date. The white Caucasian women in that age bracket are the most hideous looking creatures on the planet. I swiped right once during my entire free 100 cards. Their sense of entitlement and the discord between what they are seeking in relation to what they are offering is breathtaking. How any man could maintain an erection when their panties come off is beyond me. Also factor in the bad Caucasian pussy smell (or Kunt Pong as we would call it in the military). Ergo the incredible demand for Asian rub and tug joints in my country.
Those Filipinas which Mr. E found on the dating sites are certified, 5-star supermodels compared to their Caucasian American and Australian sisters in the same age bracket.
Engine Driver
01-01-21, 12:15
In the event of premature widowhood, she could probably even find a RYWM to supplement her lifestyle. These girls have got it made; why suffer in the provinces back home?.As Filipinas are the most promiscuous women on the planet, there is no need for the old codger to fall off his perch before she engages in a little extramarital sex. That sweet young thing is already bonking a number of studs who pop around when the old man is having is afternoon nap.
Can you please give me the name of the mall? I will need to pay a visit.
Mr Enternational
01-01-21, 12:56
ME, I'm not sure if you are making your case or Soapy's. Of the 50 pics you posted, there are several that I like.I was not trying to make a case. I was simply saying to show examples of the gleaming talent pool that was spoken of. That is why after battling back and forth with no tangible results, I decided to post a random unedited pool of chicks of the age in question. Frankly my standards are not that high. I follow the 18 to 80 rule. Not that I am going out seeking this that or the other as the OP said he was going to start doing, but if it falls into my lap...
WestCoast1
01-01-21, 23:36
Those Filipinas which Mr. E found on the dating sites are certified, 5-star supermodels compared to their Caucasian American and Australian sisters in the same age bracket.Haha tough crowd!
Related story. Years ago I knew this couple, my age. Several of us, including the couple, met for drinks a few times each month. On occasion I showed up with a date, always the date was 23-32 in age. This went on for years. I'd show with Betty (23), or Jenn (32), or Mari (28), or such. One evening when I showed up alone, the lady of the couple said to me: "I have someone for you". As many of you are aware, this is a scary thought, possibly a threat to your well-being. For me, being set up on a date from my friends almost always turned out bad. The lady whipped out her phone and started looking thru pics to show me the friend she wanted to introduce me to. Her hubby looked at me and rolled his eyes. Lady: "She's so smart. And funny. You'll love her". This also is top-secret chick code for: "She's just the opposite of what I just said".
She finally found the picture of the gal and showed it to me. Disgusting. Well-dressed but five-ten years older than me, a nose so crooked it couldn't be fixed with either scalpel or jack-hammer, short butched hair dyed so red that it appeared to be ON FIRE. Oh, and obese also. Dearest Lord: Why me? I demurred, telling her that I was seeing Betty again (a lie). "Westy what do you see in her?" Hubby rolled his eyes again. Well, besides the flat tummy and nice rack? "Yes but my friend is smart. You'll love her". No, I won't. A bit later she walked away to say Hi to some friends in the bar. The hubby: "Sorry about that. Told her 10 times to not do that. You can see how much I influence her". Ya, and just think Bob, if you and the missus ever split up, you can have the flaming-haired hag.
You fellas probably have similar stories. Quick, get me back to IMFITP.
Haha tough crowd!
Related story. Years ago I knew this couple, my age. Several of us, including the couple, met for drinks a few times each month. On occasion I showed up with a date, always the date was 23-32 in age. This went on for years. I'd show with Betty (23), or Jenn (32), or Mari (28), or such. One evening when I showed up alone, the lady of the couple said to me: "I have someone for you". As many of you are aware, this is a scary thought, possibly a threat to your well-being. For me, being set up on a date from my friends almost always turned out bad. The lady whipped out her phone and started looking thru pics to show me the friend she wanted to introduce me to. Her hubby looked at me and rolled his eyes. Lady: "She's so smart. And funny. You'll love her". This also is top-secret chick code for: "She's just the opposite of what I just said".
She finally found the picture of the gal and showed it to me. Disgusting. Well-dressed but five-ten years older than me, a nose so crooked it couldn't be fixed with either scalpel or jack-hammer, short butched hair dyed so red that it appeared to be ON FIRE. Oh, and obese also. Dearest Lord: Why me? I demurred, telling her that I was seeing Betty again (a lie). "Westy what do you see in her?" Hubby rolled his eyes again. Well, besides the flat tummy and nice rack? "Yes but my friend is smart. You'll love her". No, I won't. A bit later she walked away to say Hi to some friends in the bar. The hubby: "Sorry about that. Told her 10 times to not do that. You can see how much I influence her". Ya, and just think Bob, if you and the missus ever split up, you can have the flaming-haired hag..A woman will set you up with what she thinks you need. A man will set you up with what he knows you want!
Chocha Monger
01-02-21, 16:08
Haha tough crowd!
Related story. Years ago I knew this couple, my age. Several of us, including the couple, met for drinks a few times each month. On occasion I showed up with a date, always the date was 23-32 in age. This went on for years. I'd show with Betty (23), or Jenn (32), or Mari (28), or such. One evening when I showed up alone, the lady of the couple said to me: "I have someone for you". As many of you are aware, this is a scary thought, possibly a threat to your well-being. For me, being set up on a date from my friends almost always turned out bad. The lady whipped out her phone and started looking thru pics to show me the friend she wanted to introduce me to. Her hubby looked at me and rolled his eyes. Lady: "She's so smart. And funny. You'll love her". This also is top-secret chick code for: "She's just the opposite of what I just said".
She finally found the picture of the gal and showed it to me. Disgusting. Well-dressed but five-ten years older than me, a nose so crooked it couldn't be fixed with either scalpel or jack-hammer, short butched hair dyed so red that it appeared to be ON FIRE. Oh, and obese also. Dearest Lord: Why me? I demurred, telling her that I was seeing Betty again (a lie). "Westy what do you see in her?" Hubby rolled his eyes again. Well, besides the flat tummy and nice rack? "Yes but my friend is smart. You'll love her". No, I won't. A bit later she walked away to say Hi to some friends in the bar. The hubby: "Sorry about that. Told her 10 times to not do that. You can see how much I influence her". Ya, and just think Bob, if you and the missus ever split up, you can have the flaming-haired hag..You probably missed the best sex of your life with the red tail.
GeneHickman
01-02-21, 19:00
You all hear about the US travel ban imposed today.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-01-01/philippines-to-ban-us-travellers-from-jan-3
Chocha Monger
01-02-21, 20:42
You all hear about the US travel ban imposed today.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-01-01/philippines-to-ban-us-travellers-from-jan-3Yes. The Pussy Paradise of Flipsville banned American marshmallows. Who knows how long it will be before American mongers can enter Flipsville to buy a root. Some retirees saved their entire lives to spend their final few years rooting LBFMs in Flipsville. Now, they must watch the clock run out from RWML.
Wicked Roger
01-02-21, 23:59
You all hear about the US travel ban imposed today.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-01-01/philippines-to-ban-us-travellers-from-jan-3About time as the country banned others with far less covid related troubles than the USA. I wonder of the ban will last until someone in the USA understands the problem and tries to fix it LOL? At the moment clearly some try hard and others don't care but the ban is very sensible. The problem is containing it in the Philippines IMHO who 'hard headed' pinoys who think fiesta and cock fighting are OK and the covid rules don't apply LOL (so said some pinays I know well).
https://thehill.com/policy/international/532312-us-travelers-banned-from-philippines-starting-sunday
A woman will set you up with what she thinks you need. A man will set you up with what he knows you want!A woman will set you up with whatever poses no competition and may even boost her own standing.
WC's story is taken to the nth degree daily everywhere in Asia. Just look at all the expat nurses, teachers etc. Gone from pretty young things and the center of attention in WML to overlooked and buying their own drinks in Manila / Jakarta / BKK.
That wasn't in the Cultural Awareness Briefing 😡.
Enjoy. G.
As Filipinas are the most promiscuous women on the planet, there is no need for the old codger to fall off his perch before she engages in a little extramarital sex. That sweet young thing is already bonking a number of studs who pop around when the old man is having is afternoon nap.
Can you please give me the name of the mall? I will need to pay a visit.I was going to say that's a stereotype but alas it holds true. My SO is Japanese, and even though my work allows me to travel throughout Asia, she has held deep reservations about me ever going to the PI alone. Some of her friends who were married to Americans, lost their husbands to a "younger model" Pinay. When I took a look at what they left to what they went to, I was amazed one could leave a semi-decent home life to go join a situation with a kid by one dude and maybe another on the way (possibly not his) and ready to take on the entire extended family for support. Even have a lady friend who is Singaporean whose husband is on a ship that goes in and out of the PI and is upset with him because he bought some Pinay a car and supporting her and neglecting home life in Singapore.
Worse still as I have recently seen the younger they are the more jealous they are when you play their own game. I have a tendency to dole out a few "gifts" from time to time to one older Pinay, and some younger ones have seen this and now claim to be "mad" at me for giving to someone else and not doing the same for them and now will not send me the private pictures anymore, or make accusations against the more older one that are completely false since I've broken the code on the older one and into the "inner story. " I guess you can close the bar and take them out of it, but you can't take the bar life out of them. Most of the time, the younger ones need to learn how to present and make their time online worthwhile instead of just laying in a bed in a dark room with a TV on and asking you to donate. But I digress.
In a way, I sometimes understand why places like the PI are in the condition that they are in just by dealing with the ordinary folks.
AussieGaigin
01-03-21, 21:35
As Filipinas are the most promiscuous women on the planet, there is no need for the old codger to fall off his perch before she engages in a little extramarital sex. That sweet young thing is already bonking a number of studs who pop around when the old man is having is afternoon nap.
Can you please give me the name of the mall? I will need to pay a visit.Certainly. It is Westfield Eastgardens on Bunnerong Rd. Saturday mornings would probably be the most productive time.
No doubt other similar places would provide similar results.
SinfullyKorean
01-03-21, 22:51
It's sad, but a lot of the travel ban seemed to play with politics and international relationships. They didn't want to upset countries like China and the US. You're right, though. If we're just looking at the numbers, travel from the US should've been banned a while ago (around Sept / Oct).
But this recent travel ban was due to the new, highly contagious strain. I don't think there will be any way to contain this strain and despite the lockdowns, our numbers will get worse. I think the only hope we have is for the season to get warmer (another 2-3 months) and the vaccine making a dent (also another few months). So COVID will probably get worse for the next 2 months before it gets better.
About time as the country banned others with far less covid related troubles than the USA. I wonder of the ban will last until someone in the USA understands the problem and tries to fix it LOL? At the moment clearly some try hard and others don't care but the ban is very sensible. The problem is containing it in the Philippines IMHO who 'hard headed' pinoys who think fiesta and cock fighting are OK and the covid rules don't apply LOL (so said some pinays I know well).
https://thehill.com/policy/international/532312-us-travelers-banned-from-philippines-starting-sunday
Engine Driver
01-04-21, 10:47
Certainly. It is Westfield Eastgardens on Bunnerong Rd. Saturday mornings would probably be the most productive time.
No doubt other similar places would provide similar results.Thank you. I will try not to look like an obvious pervert. I did not expect Filipinas to be hanging out in the upmarket eastern suburbs. Hahaha. I would have thought that Blacktown Mall or Westfield Parramatta would be their usual places.
Chocha Monger
01-05-21, 00:29
Your are quite correct. I've been playing around with Tinder in my RWML city today and set the age group to 38-50 as this is what white society would expect me to date. The white Caucasian women in that age bracket are the most hideous looking creatures on the planet. I swiped right once during my entire free 100 cards. Their sense of entitlement and the discord between what they are seeking in relation to what they are offering is breathtaking. How any man could maintain an erection when their panties come off is beyond me. Also factor in the bad Caucasian pussy smell (or Kunt Pong as we would call it in the military). Ergo the incredible demand for Asian rub and tug joints in my country.
Those Filipinas which Mr. E found on the dating sites are certified, 5-star supermodels compared to their Caucasian American and Australian sisters in the same age bracket.After the latest ban on foreign marshmallows entering Flipsville, it looks like mongers will have to make do with Caucasian boilers and their sour pussies. Caucasian women in the 38-50-year-old cohort usually expect lots of foreplay, which is code for you lucky lads licking their yeasty vaginas for at least half an hour before the main event. Get used to licking old Caucasian puss for at least another two years. Do not expect to fuck these old white boilers in any position other than marital missionary, as many have hip, knee, and lower back issues. Enjoy lads! Enjoy!
Engine Driver
01-05-21, 04:05
After the latest ban on foreign marshmallows entering Flipsville, it looks like mongers will have to make do with Caucasian boilers and their sour pussies. Caucasian women in the 38-50-year-old cohort usually expect lots of foreplay, which is code for you lucky lads licking their yeasty vaginas for at least half an hour before the main event. Get used to licking old Caucasian puss for at least another two years. Do not expect to fuck these old white boilers in any position other than marital missionary, as many have hip, knee, and lower back issues. Enjoy lads! Enjoy!Thank you for your words of wisdom Chocha Monger. As usual, your advice is spot on. Yes the prospect of rooting white women in the 38-50 age cohort is just too gruesome to consider. I don't even want to think about it. Not only would they order you to lick their smelly, yeasty, flabby pussies for half-an-hour, you would also get an environmental and sustainability lecture from them before you can put your marshmallow in. I am told that asking them to shower beforehand is considered rude and likely to cause offence.
At least LBFMs don't lecture us with socialist claptrap when they are riding us reverse cowgirl. And they always will shower before coming to bed.
Fortunately, Australia is the southern most province of China, so there are plenty of nice Asian girls plying their trade here and willing to suck my tiny marshmallow without me needing to get out of my mobility scooter.
Thank you. I will try not to look like an obvious pervert. Good luck with that. 😎.
Pinas have a 6th sense in identifying new arrivals and I don't see why that wouldn't extend to trapped mongers with blue balls so severe that their nose is running.
My suggestion to you is the same as to the new arrivals in Manila or Cebu who struggle to get their first root due to their look of desperation: lower your standards and grab any breathing snatch carrier and get the first shot away. You will then be relaxed enough to not seem like the horny pervert that you are trying to pretend doesn't exist. 😁.
Pro Tip: pinas love produce markets and often meet their sisters there for shopping cum gossip sessions.
Enjoy. G.
Chocha Monger
01-06-21, 04:24
Thank you for your words of wisdom Chocha Monger. As usual, your advice is spot on. Yes the prospect of rooting white women in the 38-50 age cohort is just too gruesome to consider. I don't even want to think about it. Not only would they order you to lick their smelly, yeasty, flabby pussies for half-an-hour, you would also get an environmental and sustainability lecture from them before you can put your marshmallow in. I am told that asking them to shower beforehand is considered rude and likely to cause offence.
At least LBFMs don't lecture us with socialist claptrap when they are riding us reverse cowgirl. And they always will shower before coming to bed.
Fortunately, Australia is the southern most province of China, so there are plenty of nice Asian girls plying their trade here and willing to suck my tiny marshmallow without me needing to get out of my mobility scooter.That is correct. They consider your request for them to shower before rooting very offensive not to mention environmentally unsustainable, as they consider washing their fat pink "self-cleaning vaginas" an unnecessary exercise. Any such request will likely earn you a lecture on gender equality in the bedroom. Your empowered Caucasian woman will order you to give her less lip and more tongue. After you lick her odoriferous snatch for half hour, do not expect her to reciprocate with BBBJCIMWS as she considers it demeaning to women.
Assuming you make it past the cunnilingus trials, she will expect you to use ethical vegan condoms that are cruelty-free, nitrosamine-free, hypoallergenic, and gives a portion of the price of every root to charitable organizations. She will also want you to use lube that is fair trade and manufactured using a plant-based formula. A portion of the purchase price must go to a certified feminist organization.
Finally, do not make the mistake of breaking before she comes unless you want to start World War III.
PedroMorales
01-06-21, 10:13
Chocha Monger.
You are the last of the romantics. I was out walking yesterday, eyeing up a 30 something with her two kids. She had gone to seed, like an upright coffin. Have you ever seen those elephants the black lads like to lick out. How about those African 20 something studs who fall head over heels with a 70 year old European chick. Or the ex Playboy models who fall for 90 year old billionaires.
We have some of the world's best pussy sniffers and wine tasters posting here. Who is to deny them falling in love with lassies with "hip, knee, and lower back issues? Love, as you know, conquers all. I don't know if you are a Bible loving man but St Paul told us exercise is of limited value. Best to take a break and let the trike drivers do their thing.
Perhaps the Desiderata is more your bag, as the ex hippies and Teddy Boys posting here might say: Take kindly to the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Time to say sayonara to the Red Bull and the bareback. Time to shuffle around the slums back home and wonder if all those orgies really happened or if we just read it in a book somewhere.
After the latest ban on foreign marshmallows entering Flipsville, it looks like mongers will have to make do with Caucasian boilers and their sour pussies. Caucasian women in the 38-50-year-old cohort usually expect lots of foreplay, which is code for you lucky lads licking their yeasty vaginas for at least half an hour before the main event. Get used to licking old Caucasian puss for at least another two years. Do not expect to fuck these old white boilers in any position other than marital missionary, as many have hip, knee, and lower back issues. Enjoy lads! Enjoy!
This forum is becoming a practice ground for the see- English student practicing their writing skills. How about getting back to reporting information?
Pinaypounder
01-06-21, 17:50
"Filipinas don't age well"?
Come to the shopping malls in western Sydney and see all the 20-30 year old women who are the size of small cars.Here we import many Filipinos to work. 75% of the Filipina gain weight immediately. To much Tim Hortons and a shitty lifestyle where exercise is verbotten and living to 55 is considered a miracle.
Sad how they amalgamate with the local fatties. They still have a better attitude and being 120 when they should be 100 is better than being 180 when they should be 135.
I have not had a typical white (Canadians use to be white, we certainly are not any more) Canadian GF in 15+ years. But I have dated attractive Colombian, Filipina and Brazilian. Sadly I have unremarkably fucked a few local big ones and it is hard to remove the memories. One had the smelliest pussy ever I am not even sure why I did that or HOW and I am to polite to go WTF woman. I have several Canadian lady friends though and I appreciate them, they are far better companions and friends than the childlike Filipina. My current live in Filipina simply stuns me as to her simplicity, and while she is a good roommate I am regretting my choice and she is one of the learned ones.
I am not sure I can marry a Filipina they are to simple and to stupid for the most part of course there are positives in that but Jesus can we watch something other than the Avengers for once, so looking to the Ukraine and Poland now for attractive white women who have frankly been used by mostly drunk local men. I think after 65 (that is a few years out) I need a live in caregiver! But who fing knows.
Wish me luck.
PP.
Haha tough crowd!
Related story. Years ago I knew this couple, my age.
She finally found the picture of the gal and showed it to me. Disgusting. Well-dressed but five-ten years older than me, a nose so crooked it couldn't be fixed with either scalpel or jack-hammer, short butched hair dyed so red that it appeared to be ON FIRE. Oh, and obese also. IMFITP.IMHO, might try expanding your circle of friends to include girls working in airline or offices. Little more high maintenance but can be worth the time. You get to meet or get introductions to their friends. Unfortunately, a pretty PI airline girl had a bad one way trip recently.
I tried some gulf state airline gals myself but much prefer the Asian airline gals. It helps when friends introduce as easier to close the deal.
PedroMorales
01-06-21, 22:52
This forum is becoming a practice ground for the see- English student practicing their writing skills. How about getting back to reporting information?What kind of reporting would you like? There is a virus doing the rounds stopping travel and much more. None of us mere mortals will set foot in the Philippines until at least July 2022, when things will be radically different. Flights from Britain are banned in a lot of countries but allowed in others. I am travelling in Europe and being monitored by a number of intrusive and inefficient state health agencies. Even getting a bed for the night is hard. Meals with QR codes etc.
So what would you like a report on? Some jerk off story from Cebu that you cannot replicate as you cannot get in? Reports on non existent gang bangs in Makati? How the Koreans are ruining the ruined city of Angeles for the rest of us? Here is the link to arrivals at Angeles Airport. Anything there for you? https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/crk/arrivals.
We marshmallows wait on further reports from Chocha Monger so we can finesse our return and strike like vipers at the opportune time at our elusive LBFM prey and snatch their snatches form the jaws of Trikemen.
WestCoast1
01-06-21, 23:54
How about getting back to reporting information?Not much to report. Mongers aren't traveling here. The country is still in a form of lockdown. This is the way it is until foreigners are allowed to return.
Not much to report. Mongers aren't traveling here. The country is still in a form of lockdown. This is the way it is until foreigners are allowed to return.Damn! Let's get these vaccines rolling!
Some of us retired here and are reaping the benefits. I feel sorry for the people that cannot enter the country. We Are doing our best to keep the LBFMs ready for you. Hopefully life will return to normal soon.
SinfullyKorean
01-07-21, 20:16
Some of us retired here and are reaping the benefits. I feel sorry for the people that cannot enter the country. We Are doing our best to keep the LBFMs ready for you. Hopefully life will return to normal soon.Yes. Please keep them warm and wet for us. We appreciate your sacrifice. :)
Engine Driver
01-08-21, 05:50
This forum is becoming a practice ground for the see- English student practicing their writing skills. How about getting back to reporting information?And what useful reports have you provided?
Yes. Please keep them warm and wet for us. We appreciate your sacrifice. :)We are doing our best LOL.
WestCoast1
01-08-21, 08:58
Some of us retired here and are reaping the benefits. I feel sorry for the people that cannot enter the country. We Are doing our best to keep the LBFMs ready for you.Ya, that's what I've heard. Tip-of-the-hat, Beavis.
Yes. Please keep them warm and wet for us. We appreciate your sacrifice. :)Speaking of sacrifice. A few months ago several of my regulars here got their period at the same time, for the better part of a week. Brrrr! To make matters worse, all of them had family issues to take care of for the next several days. A week without for Westy? It could happen to the best of us. Talk about sacrifice. Just as luck would have it, its happening again this week.
PedroMorales
01-08-21, 11:23
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9125431/British-couple-tried-sneak-woman-luxury-Barbados-hotel-room-fined.html
A kinky British couple got a hefty fine for smuggling in a "lady" into their Barbados compound. Check out what the guy's "better half" did for a living: selling cosmetics using BDSM props. It seems to me compound guards are scared of Covid and are on a commission if they can dob in marshmallows. So, a word of warning to expat marshmallows who like to jerk off as trike drivers but fukk their better halves: the trike driver and his cousin, your compound guard, might grass you up. After they spit roast your woman of course. Dangerous times.
Wicked Roger
01-08-21, 22:04
A week without for Westy? It could happen to the best of us. Talk about sacrifice. Just as luck would have it, its happening again this week.Just recharge the blue balls Westie but want the regulars of a splooge fest once they get back to the normal routine LOL.
And what useful reports have you provided?You can click on the handle and find out.
WestCoast1
01-09-21, 03:27
Just recharge the blue balls Westie but want the regulars of a splooge fest once they get back to the normal routine LOL.Good news WR, one of them txt an hour ago asking if she can stop by this evening. Whew!
Just recharge the blue balls Westie but want the regulars of a splooge fest once they get back to the normal routine LOL.Westie, what's a little blood? I can remember a few years back I had the same thing happening, they were all on their mens. Finally I told the last one to come over anyway, I was so horny I boom boom her. It was a mess! On the bed. Cost me 1500 pesos for a new sheet and duvet. Since then I travel with a couple leak proof bed pads just in case. The girls learn to like it on their mens.
WestCoast1
01-09-21, 05:29
Westie, what's a little blood? I can remember a few years back I had the same thing happening, they were all on their mens. Finally I told the last one to come over anyway, I was so horny I boom boom her. It was a mess! On the bed. Cost me 1500 pesos for a new sheet and duvet. Since then I travel with a couple leak proof bed pads just in case. The girls learn to like it on their mens.I'm ok with small blood. Most pinay in my past consider it verboten.
Haha those gents in RWML (BBB, Blue-Ball-Brigade outside Phils currently) might now consider the extra p1500 duvet replacement an EFFING. GOOD. DEAL.
Westie, what's a little blood? I can remember a few years back I had the same thing happening, they were all on their mens. Finally I told the last one to come over anyway, I was so horny I boom boom her. It was a mess! On the bed. Cost me 1500 pesos for a new sheet and duvet. Since then I travel with a couple leak proof bed pads just in case. The girls learn to like it on their mens.Several had given me a heads up and remind me that there are other holes available.
It will be interesting to find out what really happened with the PI flight attendant at the New Year party. There are some interesting stories out there.
Several had given me a heads up and remind me that there are other holes available.
It will be interesting to find out what really happened with the PI flight attendant at the New Year party. There are some interesting stories out there.To each their own. But I rather have some red on my dick than some brown.
PI flight attendant looked pretty cute all dolled up.
I'm ok with small blood. Most pinay in my past consider it verboten.
Haha those gents in RWML (BBB, Blue-Ball-Brigade outside Phils currently) might now consider the extra p1500 duvet replacement an EFFING. GOOD. DEAL.I have convinced some pinays fucking on their mens is good for them. Relieves abdomen pain and contraction of the vagina is good for them.
Nice Guy 99
01-09-21, 20:39
Perhaps I can contribute to bringing it back.
My Chinese GF of 8 years in the Middle East. When I arrived on a business trip we would check into the hotel together. She enjoyed being able to use the gym and the pool.
Our agreement was she could accept short times in the afternoon (she had many regulars) but would not go out at night. It worked well. I enjoyed reading the texts guys would send in the afternoon. When she came back from fucking them she was incredibly horny and always wanted sex (ok, maybe a ploy on her part).
Two or 3 times a day she wanted sex with me. I would spend 30-45 minutes licking her pussy and clit. Yes, it was a bit much BUT when she came. OMG. Body rigid, back arching. Magnificent. She came not with squirting but with a change in the delicious juices coming out of her swollen pussy. After she was exhausted.
Eventually I honored her request and found her a husband on the Internet. He has no idea that she was a working girl. We still chat every week.
WGs are great. Please treat them with respect.
Engine Driver
01-09-21, 22:16
Perhaps I can contribute to bringing it back.
My Chinese GF of 8 years in the Middle East. When I arrived on a business trip we would check into the hotel together. She enjoyed being able to use the gym and the pool.
Our agreement was she could accept short times in the afternoon (she had many regulars) but would not go out at night. It worked well. I enjoyed reading the texts guys would send in the afternoon. When she came back from fucking them she was incredibly horny and always wanted sex (ok, maybe a ploy on her part).
Two or 3 times a day she wanted sex with me. I would spend 30-45 minutes licking her pussy and clit. Yes, it was a bit much BUT when she came. OMG. Body rigid, back arching. Magnificent. She came not with squirting but with a change in the delicious juices coming out of her swollen pussy. After she was exhausted.
Eventually I honored her request and found her a husband on the Internet. He has no idea that she was a working girl. We still chat every week.
WGs are great. Please treat them with respect.So how exactly are you bringing it back? You talk about a Chinese hooker in the Middle East. This is the Philippines forum for advice and opinions on Filipinas. Hahaha.
Mr Enternational
01-10-21, 00:05
Perhaps I can contribute to bringing it back.
My Chinese GF of 8 years in the Middle East. When I arrived on a business trip we would How is talking about Chinese chicks in the Middle East bringing back the focus of Opinions and Advice on Filipinas?
Tangentially related to this thread and I hope not out of order. I find myself with a newly acquired (but untested) fetish for Filipinas. But with a geographically related inability to pursue it easily.
[https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-al-manama?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q_c_n_eq=al-manama&q%5Bnationality_id_eq%5D=62]Link to 'escorts' claiming to be Filipina. [ / url].
If any of the old hands could take a glance and let me know if they think any of them are genuine Filipinas, I'd be eternally grateful. I suspect all of them are Thai (and bait and switch at that.).
That turning out to be a dud. Any tips on easy ways of picking them out on dating apps / in person? I suspect I'm going to have to hit the bars and clubs and just ask around.
Tangentially related to this thread and I hope not out of order. I find myself with a newly acquired (but untested) fetish for Filipinas. But with a geographically related inability to pursue it easily.
If any of the old hands could take a glance and let me know if they think any of them are genuine Filipinas, I'd be eternally grateful. I suspect all of them are Thai (and bait and switch at that.).
That turning out to be a dud. Any tips on easy ways of picking them out on dating apps / in person? I suspect I'm going to have to hit the bars and clubs and just ask around.All of them could be, it can be difficult to distinguish among Asian nationalities, especially in the islands due to long term inter breeding of the different ethnic backgrounds.
There is no real reason for the girls to lie about their nationality. Philippine, Thai, Indonesian all rank about the same. I never had a girl lie about nationality when I was frequenting Dubai. Fake pictures yes, but never fake nationalities.
If any fake nationalities, you might get some girls trying to pass as Japanese or Korean as they are higher rated in general. You would bet a say half Japanese half Pina girl trying to pass as Japanese but never a Japanese girl trying to pass as Pina.
If any of the old hands could take a glance and let me know if they think any of them are genuine Filipinas, I'd be eternally grateful. I suspect all of them are Thai (and bait and switch at that.)..They look pina to me and if the photos are not wildly photoshopped the prices actually aren't too bad. Girls of that caliber routinely ask for 15 k (USD300) on Tinder etc. Some fools must be paying it. 😁.
I'd disagree with KG in that girls of different areas have distinctly different features and after a while in country a foreigner can often accurately guess where a girl is from or at least her family. He is right that as more people move around this may not be where she physically lives any more.
Enjoy.
Thanks guys. I've made contact with some.
I'm in the rare situation of not really caring about the girl not being as hot as expected (provided she's not absolutely hideous), as long as she's Filipina. Haha.
If I get anywhere, I'll add a report to the relevant forum.
Engine Driver
01-12-21, 09:50
I find it quite amusing to see once poor, provincial LBFMs on IG showing off their newly gotten loot to their jealous friends and relatives. There's always a white old codger lurking in the background, paying for all this extravagance. Hahaha. Check out at april_libaton and scroll through to the beginning. There's a creepy looking white bloke (must be in his 70's) grinning like the cat that got the cream. He can't believe his luck. Said LBFM has the full suite of Apple products.
I'm chatting with a nice looking 24 year old now with a near perfect body. She said her previous BF was a 71 year old American. So I must be quite a catch then. Hahaha.
Thanks guys.
Nearly of them led to a mamasan working girls from hotels / apartments. Pictures of dozens of girls, no answer to when or if the Pinay girl was available (or exists.).
Talked to one of the smaller ads who I believe is a genuine Pinay. Better level of English, sent me pictures. Older than stated, heavier, some baby damage. Wanted far too much money. I'm going to let her stew for a few days then talk her down.
In the meantime, looks like I'm going to have to hit the bars.
IMHO, might try expanding your circle of friends to include girls working in airline or offices. Little more high maintenance but can be worth the time. You get to meet or get introductions to their friends. Unfortunately, a pretty PI airline girl had a bad one way trip recently.
I tried some gulf state airline gals myself but much prefer the Asian airline gals. It helps when friends introduce as easier to close the deal.For those planning a PI trip, Google dacera vs gregorio facebook. I was not the one who met Dacera. There is a cautionary tail there.
SinfullyKorean
01-12-21, 20:47
For those planning a PI trip, Google dacera vs gregorio facebook. I was not the one who met Dacera. There is a cautionary tail there.What's the cautionary tale? The story seems to be a gay guy got caught in an unfortunate situation where a flight attendant died in the hotel bathtub from a ruptured aneurism.
10 other guys were there, and media seems to paint them as rapists? Probably to sell headlines / clickbait. Maybe a sex orgy? Maybe a drug party? But all that seems like speculation when the police already declared it to be a ruptured aortic aneurism.
Engine Driver
01-13-21, 03:28
We are fast approaching Valentines Day and there will be an avalanche of requests from poor LBFMs seeking donations from their horny Valentines abroad. Where's my gift? Goes the cry. This follows up from recent donation requests for Christmas, New Year, birthdays (each LBFM has four birthdays a year), kid's birthdays (2 kids with 4 birthdays each) and phone repairs each month. What are mongers going to do? Get them running to the local WU office several times a day? Since Covid, that's about the only exercise they get.
What's the cautionary tale? The story seems to be a gay guy got caught in an unfortunate situation where a flight attendant died in the hotel bathtub from a ruptured aneurism.
10 other guys were there, and media seems to paint them as rapists? Probably to sell headlines / clickbait. Maybe a sex orgy? Maybe a drug party? But all that seems like speculation when the police already declared it to be a ruptured aortic aneurism.It is sad when a double tap each on a grandmother's and young kid's head by an off duty policeman with multiple kills doesn't even bat an eye. There are several videos and audio of the murder but police say there is a lack of evidence.
Picture worth 1000 words. Find the full videos of both. Not the ones edited by the police.
WestCoast1
01-13-21, 12:36
Westie, what's a little blood? I can remember a few years back I had the same thing happening, they were all on their mens. Finally I told the last one to come over anyway, I was so horny I boom boom her. It was a mess! On the bed. Cost me 1500 pesos for a new sheet and duvet. Since then I travel with a couple leak proof bed pads just in case. The girls learn to like it on their mens.
I'm ok with small blood. Most pinay in my past consider it verboten.
Good news WR, one of them txt an hour ago asking if she can stop by this evening. Whew!So a follow-up. The girl came for an afternoon session, several days post-period. The usual lovely session had begun. As I dipped my wick into her at the start of the mish, she stopped me and said: "I want to see". What? "Let me see it". I pulled Johnson out for a quick look. Everything seemed fine. "OK". Had some nice mish and turned her over doggy; Johnson and Co seemed fine. Flipped her back over for a mish finish, and part way thru that I noticed just a hint of blood on Johnson. Undeterred I was spurred on to glorious maximus finishus. All was, once again, right in the world (except for Washington, DC).
Slowly lifted myself off of her and slowly withdrew Mister Johnson. Shit, he was bloody as hell (battle can do that). As the head came clear of her pussy, blood SPRAYED out of her. All over my abdomen, pubic hair, and legs, and all over the white blanket (didn't use a TOWEL). Both of us yelled "SHIT!" at the same time. The girl crawled backwards, on her back and elbows, and nearly fell off the foot of the bed. The spray stopped. It lasted only a second or two. A hemoglobin gusher. She jumped off the bed and moved quickly to the CR and shower. Sweetie are you OK? What happened? "Shit. Two days. No blood. The f*ck". By the time we both quick-washed in the shower and dried off, the blood had stopped. WTF.
More Forrest Gump's box of chocolates (or in this case, chocolate-covered cherries). Explained to the unit owner that I'd pay for the duvet, but they got the stain out. The best laid plans of mice and men.
So a follow-up. The girl came for an afternoon session, several days post-period. The usual lovely session had begun. As I dipped my wick into her at the start of the mish, she stopped me and said: "I want to see". What? "Let me see it". I pulled Johnson out for a quick look. Everything seemed fine. "OK". Had some nice mish and turned her over doggy; Johnson and Co seemed fine. Flipped her back over for a mish finish, and part way thru that I noticed just a hint of blood on Johnson. Undeterred I was spurred on to glorious maximus finishus. All was, once again, right in the world (except for Washington, DC).
Slowly lifted myself off of her and slowly withdrew Mister Johnson. Shit, he was bloody as hell (battle can do that). As the head came clear of her pussy, blood SPRAYED out of her. All over my abdomen, pubic hair, and legs, and all over the white blanket (didn't use a TOWEL). Both of us yelled "SHIT!" at the same time. The girl crawled backwards, on her back and elbows, and nearly fell off the foot of the bed. The spray stopped. It lasted only a second or two. A hemoglobin gusher. She jumped off the bed and moved quickly to the CR and shower. Sweetie are you OK? What happened? "Shit. Two days. No blood. The f*ck". By the time we both quick-washed in the shower and dried off, the blood had stopped. WTF.
More Forrest Gump's box of chocolates (or in this case, chocolate-covered cherries). Explained to the unit owner that I'd pay for the duvet, but they got the stain out. The best laid plans of mice and men.Congrats Westie. Your super long Johnson roto rooted the V walls clean. Next time have the girl CG you and feel the hot blood drip down on your jewels!
More Forrest Gump's box of chocolates (or in this case, chocolate-covered cherries). Explained to the unit owner that I'd pay for the duvet, but they got the stain out. The best laid plans of mice and men.As a monger we do get to see so many different women in so many stages of life.
One thing about periods though is every girl is different. I know in Au the consensus is limited sex during period, doors are closed, the red flag etc. With Filipina this is much more negotiable. I remember a Filipina maid I met in HK and everything was going well until she said "It's not your lucky day BrizLad." I let that soak into my head and resigned myself until she decides it's OK if we do it over the bathtub. Bathtub was a rosey red which was easily washed away.
Engine Driver
01-14-21, 05:14
The greed of provincial LBFMs knows no bounds. One dirt poor, 29 year-old gold digger I was chatting with in Davao was very keen to marry me and set the wedding date to September 2021. She was reasonably pleasant looking and would have been a good root. So I just humored her for a few days to see where it was headed, all in the name of completing my important field experiment. I told her to send me some pictures of diamond engagement rings she would like me to buy in Sydney – the one she wanted had a fucking 3 carat rock which would have set me back USD $50 k. She said I would need to send her parents 50 k peso a month in perpetuity to live on in the province and then separately give her 500 k peso a month allowance until she was able to come to Australia. I did not realize that sacks of rice and tins of sardines in Shitsville cost more than fuckin' Beluga caviar and Moet & Chandon. Hahahahaha. She wanted me to provide a house in the province for her bloodsucking relatives to live in and to buy her a 7 million peso house in Davao City. She also wanted a car! Sure, why not? Hahahahaha. Now being a desperate, lonely monger with no prospects, I of course agreed to all this and said I would send the money to Western Union that afternoon for pick up. While she was off trying to find her ID in the pile of rubbish where she lived, I promptly blocked her. Hahahahahaha.
Do LBFMs really think we are that rich and stupid? She must have thought a stipend for her of 500 k peso a month while waiting to come to Oz would be perceived by me to be loose change and was a reasonable ask. That's USD $9,600 a month, or USD $115 k a year. And these are people that get by on 100 peso a day in the province. Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Fuckin' useless idiots.
Now had she not made any demands, I would possibly have met her when borders open in three-years' time. I would have fucked her numerous times BBFSCIP over a couple of days while staying in a nice beach resort and then given her a thick wad of cash at the end for her troubles. But she blew it with her unbelievable greed. She's going to be waiting a long, long time for the next gullible monger to come along. Seriously, how many mongers are going to venture down to Davao when borders open? Pinays are quite simply the greediest and most stupid people on the planet.
So a follow-up. The girl came for an afternoon session, several days post-period. The usual lovely session had begun. As I dipped my wick into her at the start of the mish, she stopped me and said: "I want to see". What? "Let me see it". I pulled Johnson out for a quick look. Everything seemed fine. "OK". Had some nice mish and turned her over doggy; Johnson and Co seemed fine. Flipped her back over for a mish finish, and part way thru that I noticed just a hint of blood on Johnson. Undeterred I was spurred on to glorious maximus finishus. All was, once again, right in the world (except for Washington, DC).
Slowly lifted myself off of her and slowly withdrew Mister Johnson. Shit, he was bloody as hell (battle can do that). As the head came clear of her pussy, blood SPRAYED out of her. All over my abdomen, pubic hair, and legs, and all over the white blanket (didn't use a TOWEL). Both of us yelled "SHIT!" at the same time. The girl crawled backwards, on her back and elbows, and nearly fell off the foot of the bed. The spray stopped. It lasted only a second or two. A hemoglobin gusher. She jumped off the bed and moved quickly to the CR and shower. Sweetie are you OK? What happened? "Shit. Two days. No blood. The f*ck". By the time we both quick-washed in the shower and dried off, the blood had stopped. WTF.
.Haha, I know the feeling. I once took a cutie that had her period that came a week early. We did the deed and both fell asleep. Everything was Normal. Next morning when I woke and wanted to do it again before she leaves, the bed was covered in blood. Looked like a murder scene with a dead girls body except she was not dead but still asleep. Woke her up and she was shocked. She tried to apologize but just got real embarrassed, got dressed and ran out.
Nothing I could do except call the front desk for clean up. Yeah, it cost me some pesos to have that mess cleaned up. Along with extras for having to replace white sheets that couldn't get all the stains out.
Guess that's just another cost of mongering.
I would have fucked her numerous times BBFSCIP over a couple of days while staying in a nice beach resort and then given her a thick wad of cash at the end for her troubles. But she blew it with her unbelievable greed. She's going to be waiting a long, long time for the next gullible monger to come along. Seriously, how many mongers are going to venture down to Davao when borders open? Pinays are quite simply the greediest and most stupid people on the planet.Join the queue, there are thousands of horny others whom will be doing that with her. Her experiment is to see what she get get a cock-blocked monger to send in the meantime. For her it's a numbers game, a reverse auction, each time she will trim the requirements by 1% until she gets a poor john that agrees.
Engine Driver
01-15-21, 04:05
Join the queue, there are thousands of horny others whom will be doing that with her. Her experiment is to see what she get get a cock-blocked monger to send in the meantime. For her it's a numbers game, a reverse auction, each time she will trim the requirements by 1% until she gets a poor john that agrees.No need to join any queue. There will always be more LBFMs than foreign mongers. After Covid has wiped out the rest of the horny septuagenarians in the US and UK, there ratio will be further stacked in the mongers favor.
Join the queue, there are thousands of horny others whom will be doing that with her. Her experiment is to see what she get get a cock-blocked monger to send in the meantime. For her it's a numbers game, a reverse auction, each time she will trim the requirements by 1% until she gets a poor john that agrees.I'll bet that there is / will be some idiot who thinks he's getting a bargain for "only" 250 k per month.
GoodEnough
01-15-21, 06:13
I'll bet that there is / will be some idiot who thinks he's getting a bargain for "only" 250 k per month.Any of us who have spent significant time here have heard dozens of similar stories. Evidently there are a lot of very lonely, very inexperienced guys in the West who actually believe that, despite never having been here, they have met their one and only faithful companion on the internet. As with the pool of available women here, which is virtually bottomless, so evidently is the pool of desperate, lonely Westerners with a need to believe their true live is here an pining for them. I don't blame the girls at all.
GE.
I don't blame the girls at all.
GE.A valid point. There are numerous cases here of small to medium business owners using government Covid assistance packages to fund essential operating expenses like a new Porche or a lakeside holiday home. 😊.
Who is the greater fool: those giving money away or those accepting it?
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
01-15-21, 06:32
A valid point. There are numerous cases here of small to medium business owners using government Covid assistance packages to fund essential operating expenses like a new Porche or a lakeside holiday home. 😊.
Who is the greater fool: those giving money away or those accepting it?
Enjoy. G.Most new Porsches are bought under company names. The depreciation and running costs are legitimate operating expenses. Under the Covid relief package, ScoMo has allowed the total depreciation of $57 k to be written off in the first year. If a company director decides that buying a Porsche is the best use of a government relief package for his business, then that's his prerogative. Nothing illegal about it. The behavior of LBFMs is simply reprehensible.
The greed of provincial LBFMs knows no bounds. One dirt poor, 29 year-old gold digger I was chatting with in Davao was very keen to marry me and set the wedding date to September 2021. She was reasonably pleasant looking and would have been a good root. So I just humored her for a few days to see where it was headed, all in the name of completing my important field experiment. I told her to send me some pictures of diamond engagement rings she would like me to buy in Sydney the one she wanted had a fucking 3 carat rock which would have set me back USD $50 k. She said I would need to send her parents 50 k peso a month in perpetuity to live on in the province and then separately give her 500 k peso a month allowance until she was able to come to Australia. I did not realize that sacks of rice and tins of sardines in Shitsville cost more than fuckin' Beluga caviar and Moet & Chandon. Hahahahaha. She wanted me to provide a house in the province for her bloodsucking relatives to live in and to buy her a 7 million peso house in Davao City. She also wanted a car! Sure, why not? Hahahahaha. Now being a desperate, lonely monger with no prospects, I of course agreed to all this and said I would send the money to Western Union that afternoon for pick up. While she was off trying to find her ID in the pile of rubbish where she lived, I promptly blocked her. Hahahahahaha.
Do LBFMs really think we are that rich and stupid? She must have thought a stipend for her of 500 k peso a month while waiting to come to Oz would be perceived by me to be loose change and was a reasonable ask. That's USD $9,600 a month, or USD $115 k a year. And these are people that get by on 100 peso a day in the province. Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Fuckin' useless idiots.
Now had she not made any demands, I would possibly have met her when borders open in three-years' time. I would have fucked her numerous times BBFSCIP over a couple of days while staying in a nice beach resort and then given her a thick wad of cash at the end for her troubles. But she blew it with her unbelievable greed. She's going to be waiting a long, long time for the next gullible monger to come along. Seriously, how many mongers are going to venture down to Davao when borders open? Pinays are quite simply the greediest and most stupid people on the planet.Been there and seen that. Most likely you were talking to a dude or some guy in an online sweat shop turning out these chats.
Also, I've run across a few females who have been black listed by Western Union. What can one do to get black listed by a company that makes money off of giving you someone else's money?
Now the latest is that sites like Meet Me where they go online and ask for an in app "gift" which you have to buy from Google Pay and after they get so many they can cash out (something like 50,000 points is like US $200) now those sites are making them wait for a month before they get their money after they cash out due to so many fraudsters finding ways to either trick the system or defraud it. I've had a few ask me to PayPal them because they can't wait for another month because of this, etc.
Cannot blame the desperate girls often tutored by family or friends. I have been chatting with a supposedly ' Virgin ' 18 year old in Cebu. Seem very nice not very pretty but passable. Willing to give up for support. After few weeks of chatting enter mother. Girl says I need to meet her mother before she can stay with me. Obviously mother I guess wants to discuss terms. So far I am playing along to see what the terms are. This girl is living alone in Cebu and her mom lives in a nearby island. Girl has a job in a resort restaurant. So far she has not asked for any money.
Philippine mindset is try to get max advantage because they all know foreigners except few love struck and lonely will marry. All rest like me are hit and run with least damage to my wallet.
PedroMorales
01-15-21, 12:41
All rest like me are hit and run with least damage to my wallet.So you are not a flowers and chocolates guy? Have you read The Art of the Deal? You are negotiating with an 18 year old Pinay pauper, who needs mommy in her corner (as we all do). You never know. Flowers, chocolates, two wedding rings (one for teen, one for mommy) might be the go. Nice big flashy ones. Go for it.
Join the queue, there are thousands of horny others whom will be doing that with her. Her experiment is to see what she get get a cock-blocked monger to send in the meantime. For her it's a numbers game, a reverse auction, each time she will trim the requirements by 1% until she gets a poor john that agrees.Back in my Navy days we had a FilAm (US raised) sailor who divorced his FilAm wife (US raised) and decided to opt up to a Filipina in Japan who was a bar girl, on visa overstay, with a kid and older than him. He spent his nights at her bar, buying drinks and spending his pay on her to send home back to the province. They decided to get married, and she almost had the USN vouch for her being an overstay until we reviewed the paperwork carefully and gave him some wise counsel on she needed to get her self together with the Japan law before we could proceed. Somehow by hook and crook it went through. He married her and was even more broke. Most of his money was sent home to her family, yet he felt like a "Big Man" for some reason. I spoke with him and asked if all the money you make is going back to the PI, what's his "step kid" going to do when she became of age and you don't have anything for her except directions to the nearest bar? I'm amazed at so many men (he wasn't an overweight old white guy) but a young able bodied Pinoy willing to throw it all away and put on a cape for some person and ply superhero. If mongers want to do it, then good on them.
Cannot blame the desperate girls often tutored by family or friends. I have been chatting with a supposedly ' Virgin ' 18 year old in Cebu. Seem very nice not very pretty but passable. Willing to give up for support. After few weeks of chatting enter mother. Girl says I need to meet her mother before she can stay with me. Obviously mother I guess wants to discuss terms. So far I am playing along to see what the terms are. This girl is living alone in Cebu and her mom lives in a nearby island. Girl has a job in a resort restaurant. So far she has not asked for any money.
Philippine mindset is try to get max advantage because they all know foreigners except few love struck and lonely will marry. All rest like me are hit and run with least damage to my wallet.Momma could have just wanted to interview you to make sure you were a suitable suitor for her virgin daughter. Seems like momma eliminated you on the go around.
Mr Enternational
01-15-21, 19:21
I'm amazed at so many men (he wasn't an overweight old white guy) but a young able bodied Pinoy willing to throw it all away and put on a cape for some person and ply superhero. If mongers want to do it, then good on them.I have a coworker that is Thai and he was sending money to his chick in his hometown in Thailand. Same thing a Colombian coworker was sending money to his chick in Colombia. Come to find out they were sending money to the chicks and the chicks' real boyfriends. No, the shit is in no way limited to or has anything to do with overweight old white guy mongers. A fool (or hopeless romantic) is a fool.
If a company director decides that buying a Porsche is the best use of a government relief package for his business, that's his prerogative. Nothing illegal about it. The behavior of LBFMs is simply reprehensible.I never said it was illegal.
Mongering is not part if any moral crusade that I know of. However, how is an allready wealthy individual using funds made available to support struggling businesses for frivolous purchases less reprehensible than a bar girl on a cash grab from willing donors?
My initial post was more about who, if anyone, was to blame: those handing out cash with out restraint or those gleefully accepting it.
Cheers. G.
Wicked Roger
01-15-21, 22:44
Cannot blame the desperate girls often tutored by family or friends. I have been chatting with a supposedly ' Virgin ' 18 year old in Cebu. Seem very nice not very pretty but passable. Willing to give up for support. After few weeks of chatting enter mother. Girl says I need to meet her mother before she can stay with me. Obviously mother I guess wants to discuss terms. So far I am playing along to see what the terms are. This girl is living alone in Cebu and her mom lives in a nearby island. Girl has a job in a resort restaurant. So far she has not asked for any money.
Philippine mindset is try to get max advantage because they all know foreigners except few love struck and lonely will marry. All rest like me are hit and run with least damage to my wallet.Or momma want to try and test run Mr Sammons sausage first before she allows you to impregnate so called virgin daughter LOL.
This has happened to me and I shagged momma and then daughter and then had a lovely threesome (plus her other daughters were given to me also later). Sometime you take one for the tea.
Tow mommas were the MILFs / GILFs I have posted about in the PG before. Slim, sexier than many 25 yr olds and loved to be kinky LOL.
So you are not a flowers and chocolates guy? Have you read The Art of the Deal? You are negotiating with an 18 year old Pinay pauper, who needs mommy in her corner (as we all do). You never know. Flowers, chocolates, two wedding rings (one for teen, one for mommy) might be the go. Nice big flashy ones. Go for it.Flowers, chocolates, champagne, dinner, candles are the ones I used when I had virgins in America. No such thing in Philippine. Have had 5 so far over the years. All from remote areas. Flew them to cities for the act. Three of them with business deal. Price for virginity. Two no demands. All the same I gave generous amount. All of them I repeated few times for a week or so for few years. I know from experience girls always have special affinity towards the first love or in this case first sex.
Or momma want to try and test run Mr Sammons sausage first before she allows you to impregnate so called virgin daughter LOL.
This has happened to me and I shagged momma and then daughter and then had a lovely threesome (plus her other daughters were given to me also later). Sometime you take one for the tea.
Tow mommas were the MILFs / GILFs I have posted about in the PG before. Slim, sexier than many 25 yr olds and loved to be kinky LOL.For some reason I tend to reject moms. I am there for fun with young girls only. Anybody over 25 does not interest me. Do not know why?
Maybe it is the naivety of young girls or my dominant attitude. Probably need to talk to my shrink if I had one.
Ever since I started mongering only young juicy pussy I crave for.
.Maybe it is the naivety of young girls or my dominant attitude. Probably need to talk to my shrink if I had one...Why spend money on a shrink? Just spend it on young pussy.
You like what you like, why waste any time to find out why? Just enjoy.
Wicked Roger
01-16-21, 13:52
For some reason I tend to reject moms. I am there for fun with young girls only. Anybody over 25 does not interest me. Do not know why?
Maybe it is the naivety of young girls or my dominant attitude. Probably need to talk to my shrink if I had one.
Ever since I started mongering only young juicy pussy I crave for.That I understand Sammon ut at times I go hunting for them via the MILF / GILF but I am super selective and the ones I see / know are slim naughty kinky and have figures as good as a 25 yr old mainly. And their daughters are very tasty. So I take one for the team I suppose you could say LOL.
The greed of provincial LBFMs knows no bounds. One dirt poor, 29 year-old gold digger I was chatting with in Davao was very keen to marry me and set the wedding date to September 2021. She was reasonably pleasant looking and would have been a good root. So I just humored her for a few days to see where it was headed, all in the name of completing my important field experiment. I told her to send me some pictures of diamond engagement rings she would like me to buy in Sydney the one she wanted had a fucking 3 carat rock which would have set me back USD $50 k. She said I would need to send her parents 50 k peso a month in perpetuity to live on in the province and then separately give her 500 k peso a month allowance until she was able to come to Australia. I did not realize that sacks of rice and tins of sardines in Shitsville cost more than fuckin' Beluga caviar and Moet & Chandon. Hahahahaha. She wanted me to provide a house in the province for her bloodsucking relatives to live in and to buy her a 7 million peso house in Davao City. She also wanted a car! Sure, why not? Hahahahaha. Now being a desperate, lonely monger with no prospects, I of course agreed to all this and said I would send the money to Western Union that afternoon for pick up. While she was off trying to find her ID in the pile of rubbish where she lived, I promptly blocked her. Hahahahahaha.
Late 2019 (seems like a long time ago) I had a Pinay I pulled from OT in Singapore back in the room. I had seen her before on that current trip and one night after we finished she gets a call from his sister in Kuwait. They start yabbering and then she hangs up and tells me her sister needs money to send to her daughter back in PI who is in school and she was going to give so could I pay a little extra to help her cover. I replied "H*ll NO!" Which then led to some song and dance on how we non-Filipinos don't understand the "family" and what it means to support. Told her not true, I have family relations that I do help and support but the difference is (at least for me) I'm not expected to pay for some of their life decisions. Sure a hand when a job loss occurs or some other unforeseen snag occurs, but not to pay tuition for a school that you couldn't afford in the first place or some of the other myriad reasons that one gets. It's not my job to pay for mama and papas retirement, just like I don't expect my kid to pay for me when I'm old and feeble.
I've had another Pinay there actually ask me yet again to send money directly to her sister so that her kids can stay in school which I turned down, nor was I going to be responsible for buying inventory for the family store.
Mr Enternational
01-17-21, 18:44
Sure a hand when a job loss occurs or some other unforeseen snag occurs, but not to pay tuition for a school that you couldn't afford in the first place or some of the other myriad reasons that one gets. It's not my job to pay for mama and papas retirement, just like I don't expect my kid to pay for me when I'm old and feeble.Exactly what I tell Thais and Filipinas. Westerners raise their kids so that they can grow up and take care of themselves. Their cultures raise their kids to grow up and be bogged down taking care of them. That is why they can not get anywhere as a society. They are saddled with that burden from birth.
Exactly what I tell Thais and Filipinas. Westerners raise their kids so that they can grow up and take care of themselves. Their cultures raise their kids to grow up and be bogged down taking care of them. That is why they can not get anywhere as a society. They are saddled with that burden from birth.Well I wouldn't go that far. Westerners should save money but 70% live paycheck to paycheck, those who work at least. Social security and other such benefits are there for westerners, there's nothing for the elderly in third world countries. Only a small percentage of westerns could live solely on their savings. I can understand the reason for a large family, there's always someone with a little bit of money who can help feed the family. One reason why so many Filipinos come to the states and work ten years and then head home, this gives them social security benefits which will go much further in their country.
Soapy Smith
01-18-21, 00:14
Exactly what I tell Thais and Filipinas. Westerners raise their kids so that they can grow up and take care of themselves. Their cultures raise their kids to grow up and be bogged down taking care of them. That is why they can not get anywhere as a society. They are saddled with that burden from birth.Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have similar patterns in which children have a life-long commitment to care for parents and family. According to your theory they shouldn't be able to get anywhere as societies.
Late 2019 (seems like a long time ago)
I've had another Pinay there actually ask me yet again to send money directly to her sister so that her kids can stay in school which I turned down, nor was I going to be responsible for buying inventory for the family store.My standard reply for money demands is ' you did fine before meeting me '.
For the service I am more generous. But being a sugar daddy I am not. When I meet a girl if the girl starts with sob stories I set them straight right away. After that demands stop. Girls always try every which way. One recent girl wanted me to pay for her sisters wedding. Free money is always accepted.
Mr Enternational
01-18-21, 02:10
Social security and other such benefits are there for westerners, there's nothing for the elderly in third world countries.But I know mfs that are taking care of 35 and 40 year old parents. Most of the bar girls don't have parents even as old as you. I can understand if you are 50 and taking care of a 70 year old parent, but that is not something an 18 or 20 year old should have to do before even getting their life started good.
Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have similar patterns in which children have a life-long commitment to care for parents and family. According to your theory they shouldn't be able to get anywhere as societies.At Soapy Smith. You would be surprised at the numbers of stories that I see here in Japan in the news on kids who kill their parents. I'm talking about 40-60 year olds offing their parents in their 80's and 90's and you get the same response as to whey they did it: "I was tired of taking care of them and it was a burden" while they had to also work their normal lives.
Engine Driver
01-18-21, 04:53
Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have similar patterns in which children have a life-long commitment to care for parents and family. According to your theory they shouldn't be able to get anywhere as societies.I'm not sure if you know much about cricket, but Mr. E let that one go through to the 'keeper. Hahaha.
Japan, Korea and Taiwan are rich countries, full of educated people in well paying jobs. Unlike Filipinos who have no birth control and think it's truly a blessing from God to have 23 kids, Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese wisely stop after having one or two. They have a declining birth rate. The people there also know the value of savings and have good pension plans to assist with retirement. The financial burden on kids to support their parents in old age is therefore less as the parents have been sensible all their lives, living within their means. A Filipina would rather spend her last 6,000 peso on a lechon and a case of Red Horse for her extended family than on essential medical treatment for young Rodrigo or to pay his overdue school fees.
Uncles, aunties, cousins and siblings in Japan, Korea and Taiwan are gainfully employed and can support themselves without constantly seeking family donations. Bloodsucking is not part of their culture, unlike in the Philippines. Individual success and achievement in those rich countries is also valued, whereas in the Philippines, everyone is dragged down to the lowest common denominator. They just can't have anyone succeed!
But I know mfs that are taking care of 35 and 40 year old parents. Most of the bar girls don't have parents even as old as you. I can understand if you are 50 and taking care of a 70 year old parent, but that is not something an 18 or 20 year old should have to do before even getting their life started good.Using their logic, it should be the 45 year old phil-parents who should be taking care of the 70 year old monger. 😁.
Soapy Smith
01-18-21, 08:19
At Soapy Smith. You would be surprised at the numbers of stories that I see here in Japan in the news on kids who kill their parents. I'm talking about 40-60 year olds offing their parents in their 80's and 90's and you get the same response as to whey they did it: "I was tired of taking care of them and it was a burden" while they had to also work their normal lives.
Stories about the modal pattern--children taking care of elders--don't make the papers because they attract no attention. The stories you are referring to are in the media precisely because they are out of the ordinary.
In Korean culture tradition holds that the oldest son is responsible to care for the parents. But because the society is very patriarchal (although women are trying to change it), oldest son's wife ends up doing the caretaking. Women aren't dumb: in recent years they increasingly avoid marriage to oldest sons. Moral of the story: don't be an oldest Korean son.
GoodEnough
01-18-21, 09:40
But I know mfs that are taking care of 35 and 40 year old parents. Most of the bar girls don't have parents even as old as you. I can understand if you are 50 and taking care of a 70 year old parent, but that is not something an 18 or 20 year old should have to do before even getting their life started good.There's an underlying social tenet here called, in Tagalog, "utang na loob," which speaks to a series of interlocking obligations to which every Filipino is, to one degree or another, subject. Translated literally as "debt of the heart," the web of interconnections has an almost karmic influence on the life of many Filipinos, and the strongest string in this web of obligations is that between children and their parents. Children are literally indoctrinated from childhood about the debt they owe their parents for having given them life; and it's a debt that can never be fully repaid during the parents' lives.
GE.
That's true about "obligation", utang na loob. Note that the foreigner does not enjoy it. No obligation is created when the foreigner gives help or money. That's why he is a preferred source of help. I always assume that I am not the only possible source, whatever I may be told.
Note also, even "free" public school requires investment--for uniform, supplies, transportation. They are not necessary enrolled in a private "school they cannot afford".
There's an underlying social tenet here called, in Tagalog, "utang na loob," which speaks to a series of interlocking obligations to which every Filipino is, to one degree or another, subject. Translated literally as "debt of the heart," the web of interconnections has an almost karmic influence on the life of many Filipinos, and the strongest string in this web of obligations is that between children and their parents. Children are literally indoctrinated from childhood about the debt they owe their parents for having given them life; and it's a debt that can never be fully repaid during the parents' lives.
GE.
Azmodeus Fl
01-18-21, 13:34
Last time I was there I had made arrangement to meet with student which by Philippine law Is legal. I / E Can marry at 13 with parental consent and consensual sex at 16. I digress but she kept insisting I bareback her. I saw how this was going to go with a letter or email stating "I'm pregnant and you're the father as I was a virgin before you. I'm just saying be careful.
WestCoast1
01-18-21, 14:28
Last time I was there I had made arrangement to meet with student which by Philippine law Is legal. I / E Can marry at 13 with parental consent and consensual sex at 16.Speaking of being careful, can someone expound on this early marriage and consensual sex thing? Seems. . . dangerous.
Mr Enternational
01-18-21, 15:07
Speaking of being careful, can someone expound on this early marriage and consensual sex thing? Seems. . . dangerous.Of course that would not apply to us. It would only apply to locals. The voting age is 18 in PI, but that don't apply to us either.
Of course that would not apply to us. It would only apply to locals. The voting age is 18 in PI, but that don't apply to us either.Irrespective of local or state law age of consent is 18 years. This is international standard. What locals do and can get away with is a different question.
PedroMorales
01-18-21, 17:02
Last time I was there I had made arrangement to meet with student which by Philippine law Is legal. I / E Can marry at 13 with parental consent and consensual sex at 16. I digress but she kept insisting I bareback her. I saw how this was going to go with a letter or email stating "I'm pregnant and you're the father as I was a virgin before you. I'm just saying be careful.You can and probably should be charged with corrupting a minor, which will get you a very long stretch in a Pi prison, and in an American one if you are a US citizen. I would imagine you would be shanked in both as well and many would rejoice.
For the more civilised. There are all different relevant ages.
Here is a Unicef map. https://www.unicef.org/lac/media/2806/file It explains they are talking about a minimum and not giving a green light to predators.
Here is a report saying the Pi plans to raise the age of consent form 12 to 16. https://www.wionews.com/world/philippines-to-raise-age-of-sexual-consent-from-12-to-16-351535#text=The%20 country%20 has%20 one%20 of, country's%20 penal%20 code%20 since%201930. Note, if you follow this predator and go around raping kids, you will probably end up shanked in a prison; I certainly hope so.
For all of you tempted to emulate this creep, note there is a big scam market honey trapping you into doing that. When you be ring a minor into your room and they spring their trap to empty your bank account, you deserve it (and to be shanked in prison). These scams are not uncommon in Pampanga. As regards those who are scammed, they will fit well into prison as everyone is innocent in those places. Even those who get shanked.
Bottom line: Once they are under 18, or if you are in any doubt, run. Or get shanked.
Stories about the modal pattern--children taking care of elders--don't make the papers because they attract no attention. The stories you are referring to are in the media precisely because they are out of the ordinary.
In Korean culture tradition holds that the oldest son is responsible to care for the parents. But because the society is very patriarchal (although women are trying to change it), oldest son's wife ends up doing the caretaking. Women aren't dumb: in recent years they increasingly avoid marriage to oldest sons. Moral of the story: don't be an oldest Korean son.At Soapy Smith they actually do make the press a lot, they just don't get translated into the English versions as much. These types of killings have been occurring so much that as with any bureaucracy of which Japan is famous for, a committee has been formed to "look into this" in other words say something and do very little to fix the problem.
There's an underlying social tenet here called, in Tagalog, "utang na loob," which speaks to a series of interlocking obligations to which every Filipino is, to one degree or another, subject. Translated literally as "debt of the heart," the web of interconnections has an almost karmic influence on the life of many Filipinos, and the strongest string in this web of obligations is that between children and their parents. Children are literally indoctrinated from childhood about the debt they owe their parents for having given them life; and it's a debt that can never be fully repaid during the parents' lives.
GE.I can understand that to some extent, but it comes to a point where the family has to look at what's best for the family. I guess we in the West have been taught that the metric of success is are you doing better than the generations before you. IMO, my kid owes me nothing, raising them and getting them set out on a path where they can be independent of me when they are adults is what I'm expected to do. Of course if they do reach that level and want to help, I'm fine just give me a small room and a TV and I should be ok, but I don't think I would want to burden them down with all of my "junk" for them to cover. I guess to compare this between cultures is look at how the common meme of a loser is someone who still lives in "mom's basement" whereas I guess in the PI this in and of itself may not be a bad thing if they are supporting the mom from the basement.
Soapy Smith
01-18-21, 18:14
I can understand that to some extent, but it comes to a point where the family has to look at what's best for the family. I guess we in the West have been taught that the metric of success is are you doing better than the generations before you. As GE has explained "utang no loob," there is a socialization process so deeply embedded in Filipino culture and in child-rearing practices that, for Filipinos, it is tacit, taken for granted. So they are like fish who are unaware their environment is wet. I think "the family has to look at what's best for the family" is an idea imposed from another culture. It assumes an objectivity to view one's socialization from the outside in ways that most people are unable to do. Similarly, assumptions about "success" in life or doing better than the generation before are assumptions in the American culture that I grew up in. Are we really any more capable of stepping outside those ideas to examine them from the perspective of a Filipino or a Japanese? With regard to those ideas from our socialization, we too are like fish.
My older brother died a few years ago, and one of his belongings I held onto was a poster with a quote from a National Geographic anthropologist named Wade Davis: "The world in which you were born is just one model of reality. Other cultures are not failed attempts at being you; they are unique manifestations of the human spirit."
Mr Enternational
01-18-21, 18:47
Are we really any more capable of stepping outside those ideas to examine them from the perspective of a Filipino or a Japanese?I would say we are. Even when a Filipino or Japanese change countires and start doing things from another cultural perspective things get better for them. PI. Chicks for 2 or 3 generations are bar girls that are expected to provide. Chick gets lucky and is able to come to the USA. She raises a daughter that no longer has to be a bar girl nor is she expected to provide and take care of the whole family as was expected in past generations in the old country.
Soapy Smith
01-18-21, 20:49
I would say we are. Even when a Filipino or Japanese change countires and start doing things from another cultural perspective things get better for them. You just proved my point. You judged them as "better" based on your American values.
Mr Enternational
01-18-21, 22:07
You just proved my point. You judged them as "better" based on your American values.I did not judge anything at all based on my American values. But on the values of what I read on ISG. People talk about how bad their lives are, how they are starving with no food or only rice to eat, living in a shack, no medicine for their kids, and how they have to travel hundreds of miles to find foreign strangers' dicks to suck for a pittance.
Ok. So maybe that was the good life and not having to worry about any of that anymore by moving to another country is a worse life. It just does not seem like all these guys are sending chicks money because they are living a shangri-la lifestyle and the money will be used to bring them down a notch.
PedroMorales
01-18-21, 22:46
Have you seen any of the work of Edgardo M. Reyes? A great guy. Thankfully, he never had to go to Harlem or the South Side of Chicago, where they live on tins of dog food. I am going to watch some Akira Kurosawa tonight. Some day Americans will have their own culture but I will be about 800 years dead at that time. Seems we are back with The Quiet American and The Ugly American but, as with James Bond, 007, the chameleon has changed its colours. The worst thing by far in Angeles is the loud Americans, lard tubs roaring for the 187th hamburger of the day (easy on the mayo) at 10.37 am. See them hit Soi7 7 and 8 in Pattaya, going through them like locusts with gout. All love handles and loud mouths. Easy money for the hookers, though (as long as they don't do missionary).
You just proved my point. You judged them as "better" based on your American values.
I would say we are. Even when a Filipino or Japanese change countires and start doing things from another cultural perspective things get better for them. PI. Chicks for 2 or 3 generations are bar girls that are expected to provide. Chick gets lucky and is able to come to the USA. She raises a daughter that no longer has to be a bar girl nor is she expected to provide and take care of the whole family as was expected in past generations in the old country.A book I read once on the "Camp Towns" that were outside some of the bases in South Korea and the women who worked / lived there. For Koreans, it was considered a shame for the family to have a daughter working there, but still she was expected to send money back to help the family who had nothing to do with her. It told of one story of a woman whose brother went on to be a local politician, who was put through school by his sister working on her back, and yet would still have nothing to do with her from the "shame" she brought. Same thing as with the "Pan Pan" girls outside of the bases in Japan after WW2, the country hated them, yet needed them to get hard currency back flowing into the economy on which they brought in.
Yes, get one out of the mess and a generation or two removed and you will see a difference. That's why you will often hear of some of them still in places like the PI don't often speak to fondly of the ones that have long left the PI or those that do live in the USA not in any hurry to get back.
My older brother died a few years ago, and one of his belongings I held onto was a poster with a quote from a National Geographic anthropologist named Wade Davis: "The world in which you were born is just one model of reality. Other cultures are not failed attempts at being you; they are unique manifestations of the human spirit."That's a good quote, but there is a point in which one has to face that sometimes what you are doing is not working. If the Filipino family structure is that way then so be it. They just need to be prepared to continue as they are while others may pass them up. For example my parents and their generations all started at the bottom of the barrel being from a Southern state and Black. They each pretty much had the same amount of little to make their way. My parents did fine by me, but some of their siblings maybe did a little better. When it came time for college for the kids in following generations, some of us went, some didn't. I had relatives that were doing much better than my family, but I didn't expect them to just hand me over money to assist in my college pursuits or my life. They had their own lives and kids to raise. Did they help out, if there was a dire need sure but when I was broke I didn't immediately get on the phone and ask my parents to ask uncle for money to help me out. Yet, still loved seeing them at family reunions.
Yet, that is probably not the norm for a Filipino family and good on them. But they shouldn't expect someone not brought up that way to immediately go into pocket to support their needs.
GoodEnough
01-19-21, 10:39
That's a good quote, but there is a point in which one has to face that sometimes what you are doing is not working. If the Filipino family structure is that way then so be it. They just need to be prepared to continue as they are while others may pass them up. For example my parents and their generations all started at the bottom of the barrel being from a Southern state and Black. They each pretty much had the same amount of little to make their way. My parents did fine by me, but some of their siblings maybe did a little better. When it came time for college for the kids in following generations, some of us went, some didn't. I had relatives that were doing much better than my family, but I didn't expect them to just hand me over money to assist in my college pursuits or my life. They had their own lives and kids to raise. Did they help out, if there was a dire need sure but when I was broke I didn't immediately get on the phone and ask my parents to ask uncle for money to help me out. Yet, still loved seeing them at family reunions.
Yet, that is probably not the norm for a Filipino family and good on them. But they shouldn't expect someone not brought up that way to immediately go into pocket to support their needs.To paraphrase Soapy Smith, it's difficult for most poor Filipinos to step outside of their cultural frame of reference, and for many Filipinos that cultural framework is limited to family, clan, and village. That's all they know, and their knowledge of other value systems, political systems or socio-cultural milieux is extraordinarily limited. Cross cultural studies are not a subject taught in public schools here. It's important to recognize as well that a large majority of Filipinos still live in rural areas, or what we in the West would call "depressed rural areas," with few amenities, no libraries or books to speak of, the constant grind of poverty and few external roll models. So, while I understand your point, I disagree to the extent that for meany Filipinos, this set of expectations is all they know.
GE.
As GE has explained "utang no loob," there is a socialization process so deeply embedded in Filipino culture and in child-rearing practices that, for Filipinos, it is tacit, taken for granted. So they are like fish who are unaware their environment is wet. I think "the family has to look at what's best for the family" is an idea imposed from another culture. It assumes an objectivity to view one's socialization from the outside in ways that most people are unable to do. Similarly, assumptions about "success" in life or doing better than the generation before are assumptions in the American culture that I grew up in. Are we really any more capable of stepping outside those ideas to examine them from the perspective of a Filipino or a Japanese? With regard to those ideas from our socialization, we too are like fish.
My older brother died a few years ago, and one of his belongings I held onto was a poster with a quote from a National Geographic anthropologist named Wade Davis: "The world in which you were born is just one model of reality. Other cultures are not failed attempts at being you; they are unique manifestations of the human spirit."Thanks for broadening my perspective, SS. I will spending my golden years in the PI as soon as they let me in and I want to be happy assimilated.
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