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Wadman,
My theory, of course it's just my theory...is that March 12 is still a bit early to expect CP to get back to completely normal levels of girls. Firstly, many girls haven't come back yet from their spring festival trips back home yet. Secondly, I find that there is a shortage of people wanting to come back to the Guangdong area to work anymore in general. Foot massage places, except for Pozilim are short staffed-30% down from last year. I find that less people want to come to Guangdong to work and therefore less supply of girls from the factories perhaps--the ones that get recruited by their females friends into the BBS or the ones that are tricked by their boyfriends to be in the BBS. Many girls I contacted are still back home in their hometown and are not coming back until another week or two. So I think when April comes around all BBS will be more well stocked. I can see that more and more girls are trickling in from just a week ago. So things are pointing towards the right direction.
Now as for March 19th Friday, 9:30 pm is too late to go to any BBS. When I was hunting at 4:35 pm 80% of all the girls were taken already. Mostly by HK and Taiwanese mongers who come in groups of 8-10 at a time. They come and take the girls instantly, and I mean completely cleaned them out. I went from one BBS to the next and I saw these mongers in groups of 8-10 take out girls like nobody's business. They are fast and they go even earlier on Fridays at like 2:30 pm to go hunting for girls at BBS now.
In fact if anything I see more and more foreigners to CP now than 4-5 years ago. CP has become too famous for their own good, which is good and bad. The good is perhaps it may keep the industry strong with demand. BUt the bad is, if there's too many foreigners and they talk too much, CP's livelihood and survival against top officials who may want to shut down many sex operations may be on the brink of happening. XinDi from what I heard is closed down for 3 months and will reopen in 3 months. XindongTai has been closed to indefinately because of the large scale drug trafficking scene, which surpasses XinDi by 3-4 folds. Just comes to show that sex, drugs etc are all within the radar of top officials these days from what I hear.
So being early has it's advantages, but it's even better to befriend Mommies and have them contact you if they have a new girl that just arrived. This will help you avoid all of the huge traffic of mongers than come in droves of 8-10 at a time. just my personal opinion.
AsnDragon
What is happening with the BBS's?
Friday, a week ago (March 12) 4 PM:
Baby's shop: 15 girls
Jun Hui BBS/KTV: 5 girls. Jun Hui was operating in the open (main area)
This is usually prime-time for BBSs. Not many guys around either, so it's not like the girls were all taken already.
Nightmarket: average amount 11:30 PM
For afternoon shot, I picked a minority girl from Tibet (but not Tibetan minority). A bit chubby, but good BJ, and got lots of pictures and videos of her blowing. 200 ST.
For nightcap, girl from nightmarket was useless. 20 second BJ. Nutted, but that was about it. 130+10 ST.
Went to Versaille sauna the next day. 120 minutes, 2 shots. 338 rmb all-in (438 for model girls). Was shown 3 model girls, 9 regular girls. Rooms are a bit old but tolerable. Service was ok considering it's a sauna, nothing spectecular, but hey, what do you want for 338 rmb. My wingman, who experienced a CP sauna for the time, was blown away by his girl. But then, for any newby, just about ANY sauna service will seem out of this world.
This Friday (March 19) 9:30 PM:
Baby's shop: 5 girls
Jun Hui BBS/KTV: 12 girls (Jun Hui was using regular KTV rooms to show their girls
Lily's shop (on second floor, above convenience store): 5 girls
Shop on second floor above restaurant/KTV: 3 girls
Shop inside courtyard: 3 girls
SilverStar BBS was closed (verified). Mommy claimed their girls were taken away by cops.
Admittedly, 9:30 is not a good time to go BBS hunting on a Friday, but the town felt pretty quiet, not many guys doing BBS rounds.
Nightmarket: average amount of girls around 11 PM
Did not get anything, since I didn't have a room and had to go back home the same night.
This Sunday at 4 PM:
JunHui BBS/KTV: 1 girl (Yep! 1 Girl! Mommies claimed it was too early, most girls like to come in around 6-7 PM now...)
Baby's shop: 5 girls
Nightmarket at 11:30: more than average number of girls.
For afternoon shot, called minority girl I saw from Friday. She is from Sichuan, near Yunnan province. Chubby and a funny smell about her. Good BJ with playful eyecontact and licking though. 200 ST.
For nightcap, picked girl from Guizhou province. Good enough to keep after first round. She wasn't going to stay overnight, wanted to start round 2 after a while. I am not going to keep a girl if she doesn't want to stay. So got round 2 done, and sent her on her way. 250+10 rmb
Girl was pleasant, quite, pretty and no bad signs as of yet. I have never had good luck with LT in China, but figured I would test the waters. She eventually said 400 for some special services and then I asked her how much to sleep and she said 700. With limited time and to try something new I said OK. First session was OK, no problems. Then was resting watching TV for about 30min and then she started to say her stomach was hurting, etc. It was only about 10PM. About 10min later it had progressed and she wanted to leave. I said OK, I give you 400. She wanted 500, said that 100 had been for mommie, and 100 for papa, and nothing for her. I can't believe this as 200 ST would seem like the going rate. But finally told her we talked about 400 and because she was not sleeping that was correct. Finally sent her away with 450. Not a bad girl and I kept it civil. However, 650 all in for an ST from a BBS girl at the hotel is not so good.
Fellow mongers, what went wrong here? My very limited Chinese definitely did not help. And taking her away from the BBS that complicates things.
The problems were:
- you do not look Chinese (I am guessing you are not)
- you do not speak Chinese
- you do not look/act like you were an old hand at P4P in China
- you are not familiar with CP (mommies/girls did not recognize you)
Any ONE of those reasons listed above will temp mommies and girls to rip you off. You probably qualify for all 4, so the BBS girl must have been salivating.
In defence of the BBS girl, I cannot quite determine exactly how much time she spend with you. My guess is she stayed from 4-10 PM. Which is very, very long for a ST. Yes, I know, it was the girl who wanted to leave, did not want to screw again, etc. But I am just pointing out that ST usually means screw her, and then release her. One problem is also the kickback from her to mommy/shop. If she stays away that long, I doubt mommy will be satisfied with a ST share.
I am not saying the BBS girl was justified with her charges. She was definitely scamming you. It was a case of "let's see how much money I can get out of this guy".
SE Asia Joe
03-22-10, 04:32
So are we saying:
That new comers are not allowed here or...
That new comers do not have the rights to post or...
That new comers have to pay you respect before he can get some help?
OK - fair enough question... especially since I can feel your "drift" with reference to respect etc.
Ok Travel Around - AND all ISG Newbies and China board Newbies - several reason why we here on the China boards are nowadays quite reticient about "entertaining" request infos:
- We've had LE "infiltration" of this AND other sex oriented boards, with them monitoring AND taking action against places/WG's, mommies wh's become too "well known" amongst the foreign/Hong Kong mongers; IMHO, I think the LE pretty well leave the places catering to "locals" alone but gets grossed out when such place only becomes a "sex playground" for NON-locals.
- We've had many instances of us trying our best to help out newbies - but instead get slammed/pissed on in return. Never mind a bit of appreciation - instead, just out and out hostility in return.
-ISG is suppossed to be about sharing - but newbies come on here and basically expect that we're to provide/cater to any and all their queries/requests.... and pronto whilst at it.... without them posting up their own reports - either prior to or afterwards.... except as above - to slam us in return for not having provided correct info. Cain't even figure out such a thing as YMMV.
- What happened to plain ole common courtesy? And paying $19.95 to Jackson to be able to send - and receive - PM's instead of just coming on our threads to post on the board expecting to get sensible replies.
- So many newbies everytime the Canton Trade or other Fair rolls around - and this year the Guangzhou Asian games and mongers coming over with a Veni Vidi Vecci attitude. And forget about RTFF - hell, newbies thinks AND act as if they're the only one who's time is valuable.
- Ok, so what to do for newbies? Well, I for one would ask that you guys do RTFF and also read up Sammy T's guide to newbies - which is well written and do provide you guys with pointers on how to get what you want from our China board - 932174
Just IMHO
SEAJ
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Wadman,
My theory, of course it's just my theory...is that March 12 is still a bit early to expect CP to get back to completely normal levels of girls. Firstly, many girls haven't come back yet from their spring festival trips back home yet.
Yes, Chinese New Year is definitely still a factor. But damn, it's been a month now!
Secondly, I find that there is a shortage of people wanting to come back to the Guangdong area to work anymore in general. Foot massage places, except for Pozilim are short staffed-30% down from last year.
Pozolim is humming. You often need to wait for a room/girls there. You can get a free meal included with your foot/body massage if you go there during meal times. Forget exact meal times, something along the lines of 11-2 for lunch, 6-10 for dinner. I guess the free meal concept is working, business is good.
Now as for March 19th Friday, 9:30 pm is too late to go to any BBS. When I was hunting at 4:35 pm 80% of all the girls were taken already. Mostly by HK and Taiwanese mongers who come in groups of 8-10 at a time. They come and take the girls instantly, and I mean completely cleaned them out. I went from one BBS to the next and I saw these mongers in groups of 8-10 take out girls like nobody's business. They are fast and they go even earlier on Fridays at like 2:30 pm to go hunting for girls at BBS now.
I realize 9:30 PM is not good time for BBS on a Friday. But figured I would check them out at this time, since going earlier didn't do any good either! Overall, the BBS scene was very quiet on the weekends. On weekends, it's usually a madhouse with lots of girls and almost as many guys.
So being early has it's advantages, but it's even better to befriend Mommies and have them contact you if they have a new girl that just arrived. This will help you avoid all of the huge traffic of mongers than come in droves of 8-10 at a time. just my personal opinion.
Well, I am friendly with a couple of mommies. Have known one for years, and done business with her. The problem is, your idea of a goodlooking girl will rarely coincide with that of the mommy. So I rarely have mommy send me girls over, sight unseen.
Mommy (saying out loud): Look at how tall she is! Look at how white and smooth her skin is!
Me (thinking): Look at how crooked her teeth are! Look at that giant scowl on her face!
Fast Eddie 48
03-22-10, 05:03
Wadman,
My theory, of course it's just my theory...is that March 12 is still a bit early to expect CP to get back to completely normal levels of girls. Firstly, many girls haven't come back yet from their spring festival trips back home yet. Secondly, I find that there is a shortage of people wanting to come back to the Guangdong area to work anymore in general. Foot massage places, except for Pozilim are short staffed-30% down from last year. I find that less people want to come to Guangdong to work and therefore less supply of girls from the factories perhaps--the ones that get recruited by their females friends into the BBS or the ones that are tricked by their boyfriends to be in the BBS. Many girls I contacted are still back home in their hometown and are not coming back until another week or two. So I think when April comes around all BBS will be more well stocked. I can see that more and more girls are trickling in from just a week ago. So things are pointing towards the right direction.
Now as for March 19th Friday, 9:30 pm is too late to go to any BBS. When I was hunting at 4:35 pm 80% of all the girls were taken already. Mostly by HK and Taiwanese mongers who come in groups of 8-10 at a time. They come and take the girls instantly, and I mean completely cleaned them out. I went from one BBS to the next and I saw these mongers in groups of 8-10 take out girls like nobody's business. They are fast and they go even earlier on Fridays at like 2:30 pm to go hunting for girls at BBS now.
In fact if anything I see more and more foreigners to CP now than 4-5 years ago. CP has become too famous for their own good, which is good and bad. The good is perhaps it may keep the industry strong with demand. BUt the bad is, if there's too many foreigners and they talk too much, CP's livelihood and survival against top officials who may want to shut down many sex operations may be on the brink of happening. XinDi from what I heard is closed down for 3 months and will reopen in 3 months. XindongTai has been closed to indefinately because of the large scale drug trafficking scene, which surpasses XinDi by 3-4 folds. Just comes to show that sex, drugs etc are all within the radar of top officials these days from what I hear.
So being early has it's advantages, but it's even better to befriend Mommies and have them contact you if they have a new girl that just arrived. This will help you avoid all of the huge traffic of mongers than come in droves of 8-10 at a time. just my personal opinion.
AsnDragonAsh,
I don't think the foreigner is the blame for all the crack down here at CP, yes there are more foreigner here than 5 yr ago but that go for all over China, there are more and more crack down on bbs and sauna all over Dongguan and Guangzhou, most girl is afraid to work at the sauna now and move to KTV, it is harder to bust KTV serivce is done outside and most girl are freelance not employed by the KTV.
Fast Eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
03-22-10, 13:53
Yes, Chinese New Year is definitely still a factor. But damn, it's been a month now!
Pozolim is humming. You often need to wait for a room/girls there. You can get a free meal included with your foot/body massage if you go there during meal times. Forget exact meal times, something along the lines of 11-2 for lunch, 6-10 for dinner. I guess the free meal concept is working, business is good.Actually.... those times you posted are the times that their famous clay pot rice is available/not available for other time. Other Meals and/or snacks are available at all times. And yes - it IS a good deal as you kill 2 birds with one stone - a footsie and a meal all for approximately what you'd spend on a meal alone.
I realize 9:30 PM is not good time for BBS on a Friday. But figured I would check them out at this time, since going earlier didn't do any good either! Overall, the BBS scene was very quiet on the weekends. On weekends, it's usually a madhouse with lots of girls and almost as many guys. AND.... what happened to Mr. Weekday Wadman - you know, the guy who'd in the past specifically avoid CP week-ends? Hey, I for one took your advise and try my best to avoid week-ends.
Well, I am friendly with a couple of mommies. Have known one for years, and done business with her. The problem is, your idea of a goodlooking girl will rarely coincide with that of the mommy. So I rarely have mommy send me girls over, sight unseen.
Mommy (saying out loud): Look at how tall she is! Look at how white and smooth her skin is!
Me (thinking): Look at how crooked her teeth are! Look at that giant scowl on her face!
ROFLMAO!!! Good one.... and pretty damn accurate!!
That's why nowadays I ALWAYS tell the mommmies never to give me any recommendations etc and tell 'em all that I'll do the choosin' -
"Heck, I don't even know what kind of gal I like - how the heck can you tell mommie? Just leave me alone and I'll chose if I chose!"
A tactic to stump all these persistent mommies
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
03-22-10, 14:03
...... Secondly, I find that there is a shortage of people wanting to come back to the Guangdong area to work anymore in general. ...........
Mostly by HK and Taiwanese mongers who come in groups of 8-10 at a time. They come and take the girls instantly, and I mean completely cleaned them out. I went from one BBS to the next and I saw these mongers in groups of 8-10 take out girls like nobody's business. They are fast and they go even earlier on Fridays at like 2:30 pm to go hunting for girls at BBS now.
......... This will help you avoid all of the huge traffic of mongers than come in droves of 8-10 at a time. just my personal opinion.
AsnDragon
The groups you refer to are MOSTLY Taiwanese and not Hong Kong guys. Yes, we got a few Hong Kong guys hunting together - but the 8-10 or even more pax. groups are professionally organized by a Taiwan travel agent who offers an actual "tour" of the BBS's for RMB 20/per guy, including transport to/back.
Not a bad money maker for these travel agents - 10 guys is RMB 200, 30 days/month totals RMB 6,000 - and they'd hire a part time "tour guide" (2 hour per day max?) for RMB 800!!
SEAJ
So are we saying:
That new comers are not allowed here or.
That new comers do not have the rights to post or.
That new comers have to pay you respect before he can get some help?I think that what is being said here is that the veterans of this board. The ones posting 90% of the useful information. Do not OWE anyone anything. They are already providing a HUGE library of constantly updated information that is available for anyone to utilize.
If you ask help of them, and they choose to grant such help, it is a FAVOR that they are bestowing upon you. Quit acting like some pompous customer berating the wait staff.
I think that what is being said here is that the veterans of this board. The ones posting 90% of the useful information. Do not OWE anyone anything. They are already providing a HUGE library of constantly updated information that is available for anyone to utilize.
If you ask help of them, and they choose to grant such help, it is a FAVOR that they are bestowing upon you. Quit acting like some pompous customer berating the wait staff.
I agree, it seems like whenever I ask for information, SE Asia Joe is always the first one here to offer it up.
Big Swingin Dave
03-24-10, 04:35
Have been coming to CP for about 16 months and living here for the past 10 but have never been to the LSHR (丽城假日酒店）which is about 10 minutes from the train station. This is a 5 STAR hotel that is inside the YinXian （隐贤山莊）Resort area (more about this resort area in another post). The deluxe room in this hotel is 495RMB per night. AsnDragon，Doublefly， Waterfish， Oskatee, a non-ISG brother and I decided to be guinea pigs and try out this new place and to our pleasant surprise, we had a wonderful time there.
We had a large room with a 1,280 minimum. TsingTao was 42RMB/per bottle, buy 1 get 1 free. WGs were in 4 categories: 2-5-8, 3-6-9, 3-8-12, and 5-15-20. One gimmick that we liked were that some of the 2-5-8, and 3-6-9 girls were dressed in Silky mini-skirt pajamas with no bra. The 3-8-12 girls have to be 1.68m or taller but cannot see a good value for the 5-15-20 girls which were all only available to sit (it's too coincidental that all 5 of them had periods at the same time...) and cannot go out after KTV activities. One quirky thing about the room is that the toilet is located outside the KTV room which IMHO is not a very good idea as WGs can excuse themselves to the toilet and be gone for 10-15 minutes. We had some really nice looking and fun WGs in our room that night and had an excellent time.
One thing to remember when you are going to this place is to tell the taxi driver to take you to the KTV and not drop you off at the hotel entrance as it is a good 1/8 mile distance away.
This is a good alternative to the same places that we often frequent in CP and will be going back there with more ISG brothers in the weekends.
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
03-25-10, 03:06
A new naked KTV has started up in CP but it is not a new KTV as a matter of fact it is the old Amazon where once it was "the" place to go in CP and unfortunately for me I never had the pleasure of go there in it's hay day.
Amazon is located at the end of Swan Lake Road next to Mayflower. It belongs to the Versailles Hotel. For those of you that has never been to the Amazon, it's a jungle in there. The place is old and better suited for a haunted house. The new management has begun some moderate renovation and upgrade but the place still needs a lot of improvement.
WGs are 2-5-8 and if they strip naked, it's 100RMB more (i.e. 3-6-9). The quality and quanitity at this moment is left to be desired but it is a good place to go if you have the urge to go to Chang An but without the time. They only have about 30% of the girls available for stripping at this time so I will try them again in about a month's time and report back at a later time.
BSD
Jettsetter
03-25-10, 03:28
I agree, it seems like whenever I ask for information, SE Asia Joe is always the first one here to offer it up.
Obviously SEAJ was just trying to be sarcastic in telling newbies to RTFF... I mean that's why there are pages and pages of stuff here. I personally do a search of certain key words and read away.
When I've done that and have some informed questions, I'll ask. Sometimes you can get away with taking shortcuts on other boards if you're a senior member somewhere else, but most seniors will do the research anyways.
Half the fun is the research honestly.
Be back in CP mid-April to have some fun -- anyone around?
-J
StinkyFeet
03-25-10, 03:41
A new naked KTV has started up in CP but it is not a new KTV as a matter of fact it is the old Amazon where once it was "the" place to go in CP and unfortunately for me I never had the pleasure of go there in it's hay day.
BSD
is it possible to select a dozen really BIG/CHUBBY girls? I never experienced that before :D
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:Originally Posted by Csun213
I agree, it seems like whenever I ask for information, SE Asia Joe is always the first one here to offer it up.
Obviously SEAJ was just trying to be sarcastic in telling newbies to RTFF... I mean that's why there are pages and pages of stuff here. I personally do a search of certain key words and read away.
When I've done that and have some informed questions, I'll ask. Sometimes you can get away with taking shortcuts on other boards if you're a senior member somewhere else, but most seniors will do the research anyways.
Half the fun is the research honestly.
Be back in CP mid-April to have some fun -- anyone around??
-J
:Stegram
I think that what is being said here is that the veterans of this board. The ones posting 90% of the useful information. Do not OWE anyone anything. They are already providing a HUGE library of constantly updated information that is available for anyone to utilize.
If you ask help of them, and they choose to grant such help, it is a FAVOR that they are bestowing upon you. Quit acting like some pompous customer berating the wait staff.
Originally Posted by Travel Around
So are we saying:
That new comers are not allowed here or.
That new comers do not have the rights to post or.
That new comers have to pay you respect before he can get some help?
SE Asia Joe
03-26-10, 05:10
Thanks!!!
I've met some of the nicest gentlemen via this board .... and also some of the worst ones too! And the plonkers are USUALLY those who hasn't even bothered to do any RTFF at all - and acts, as Stegram succinctly and accurately portays as "...acting like some pompous customer berating the wait staff," in real life as he does on here.
I've even hooked up with a guy who asked me to show him the full catalogue of pictures I had on a gal whose picture I posted up in the Pix gallery, full details of my experience with her,and actually went with him to find the gal.
I thought - hmmm...he'll thoroughly enjoy himself as he was ecstatic and told me that she really was definitely his MCOT!
Well, not a half hour passed by and I had him on the phone shouting "She won't blow me, she won't blow me - talk to her, talk to her!!" WTF???!! And the next thing, the gal was on, practically crying and asking me to please tell the guy to back off. Another half hour and he was at my hotel lobby telling me to come down, and when I did, he produced his movie camera and instructed me to look and listen to what he captured on his video!!
Flabbergasted, I of course did not/could not do anything - and he then stormed off to confront the Mommie.... and God knows what happened then!!.
Strange how the rational guys that most of us are in real life, some can turn into a totally different person when it concerns mongering and especially in China/CP. I'd like to see what happens if they act the same in their own home countries - especially Japan, The States and other "more developed" economies!!
Just IMHO
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
03-26-10, 05:43
is it possible to select a dozen really BIG/CHUBBY girls? I never experienced that before :D
A DOZEN???!! ROFLMAO!!
Come on - you see all the tiny SYT's in CP - and in China generally. You REALLY think that you'll find a dozen BIG/CHUBBY gals here?!!
I know, I know, "different strokes for different....." but you think any big/chubby gals are gonna be able to make a decent living in CP when competing with these SYT's??
I'd say that you'd have a hard time finding this if it's what you want in CP. The only possiblity that I can think of is perhaps in Beijing/Shanghai where there ARE some of the more buxom Mongolians -and even then, I really don't know about actual BIG/CHUBBY gals.
Or perhaps just save it for when you're back home - if you live in the States, UK Germany, Canada and other more "developed countries."
I KNOW that they abound there. LOL!!
Just IMHO
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
03-26-10, 05:57
A new naked KTV has started up in CP but it is not a new KTV as a matter of fact it is the old Amazon where once it was "the" place to go in CP and unfortunately for me I never had the pleasure of go there in it's hay day.
Amazon is located at the end of Swan Lake Road next to Mayflower. It belongs to the Versailles Hotel. For those of you that has never been to the Amazon, it's a jungle in there. The place is old and better suited for a haunted house. The new management has begun some moderate renovation and upgrade but the place still needs a lot of improvement.
BSD
The place even still has the full size dinosaur "statue" in the main "show" room!!
I guess Dinosaurs reign supreme in the Amazon jungle.
Perfect place to party next halloween!
Strange how places/establishments in China gets "dated" so fast compared to those in other countries. At least this is what perceive. Other countries, ancient places still "feels' OK - but once a place is a few years old in China, it really feels dilapidated. Lousy maintenance and schlocky decoration/construction to begin with me-thinks.
SEAJ
Ps. STRANGE!!! I've just re-read my last 3 posts and ALL of them has reference to comparisons between China and other countries>. Hmmmmmmm.....??!!
Jettsetter
03-26-10, 08:37
The place even still has the full size dinosaur "statue" in the main "show" room!!
I guess Dinosaurs reign supreme in the Amazon jungle.
Perfect place to party next halloween!
Strange how places/establishments in China gets "dated" so fast compared to those in other countries. At least this is what perceive. Other countries, ancient places still "feels' OK - but once a place is a few years old in China, it really feels dilapidated. Lousy maintenance and schlocky decoration/construction to begin with me-thinks.
Back in the DAY -- and I've been coming to CP now since '02 - Amazon used to be what Jia Yi was before Mayflower took over... In fact in '02 it was just Lion, that was it, and line-ups started at 8:30...
Then it got progressively earlier and earlier... what has the world come to??
Amazon used to have a huge hall where there wer eonly 2 rows of girls (by row I mean girls on both sides (i.e. 4 total rows)... but it felt and looked like it went on FOREVER.
My first exposure to flower street was at Amazon.... ahhh the memories!!
-J
StinkyFeet
03-26-10, 20:38
You REALLY think that you'll find a dozen BIG/CHUBBY gals here?!!
It was a joke
is it possible to select a dozen really BIG/CHUBBY girls? I never experienced that before :DHey Stinky,
If you want fat asian girls, I know where you can find all you could ever want, California.
We feed 'em well just for you so come on over and enjoy.
SE Asia Joe
03-27-10, 08:32
Hey Stinky,
If you want fat asian girls, I know where you can find all you could ever want, California.
We feed 'em well just for you so come on over and enjoy.
Ahhhh....Soooo.... I ain't the only one who didn't catch the joke!
What WAS it by the way?
Know that the punch is gone if you have to explain/Being a bit thick I know, but........
SEAJ
StinkyFeet
03-27-10, 09:12
Hey Stinky,
If you want fat asian girls, I know where you can find all you could ever want, California.
We feed 'em well just for you so come on over and enjoy.
haha... the spanish and black girls on the bus is enough for me :P
SE Asia Joe
03-29-10, 06:17
Am I charmed or is it that others are just less blessed?
I specifically went to the Jun Hui at 6 PM couple days ago - Saturday - and saw at least 30 gals (tempted to write 40 or even 50 - but am restraining myself!!) all sitting around - with the Mommies herding their SYT's in and out to the various KTV rooms for line-ups for the punters.
Lots of new talent, sprinkling of old ones - and quite a festive and fun atmosphere in the main "sitting around area." No hints of any crack-downs and the gals in their gold or purple kimono type gowns which allow free and easy access to the gals' assets.
Been a while since I went to CP during a week-end - and actually it "feels" not too bad/actually quite lively Vs. times during weekdays when it can some times be downright sleepy.
SEAJ
That is pretty weird. I've had my friends do that kind of stuff to me. I remember one time, one friend wanted to hook up with a girl he met on a previous trip. He had me play detective for 3 days trying to find her. So there I am, for 3 days, calling just about everybody that girl ever came in contact with to find her. The whole time, I'm telling him, "dude, what's the big deal? There's 600 million girls in China, just get another one." The same guy also broke the glass partition that protects the TV at a KTV and then attacked a taxi and broke the windshield and side window. Guess who had to deal with the cab driver? I see him the next morning and he asks me, "dude, how did I get all these cuts on my hand?" Idiot probably lost about a liter of blood that day. There's lot of crazies out there, and sometimes, they turn out to be your best friends.
Thanks!!!
I've met some of the nicest gentlemen via this board .... and also some of the worst ones too! And the plonkers are USUALLY those who hasn't even bothered to do any RTFF at all - and acts, as Stegram succinctly and accurately portays as "...acting like some pompous customer berating the wait staff," in real life as he does on here.
I've even hooked up with a guy who asked me to show him the full catalogue of pictures I had on a gal whose picture I posted up in the Pix gallery, full details of my experience with her,and actually went with him to find the gal.
I thought - hmmm...he'll thoroughly enjoy himself as he was ecstatic and told me that she really was definitely his MCOT!
Well, not a half hour passed by and I had him on the phone shouting "She won't blow me, she won't blow me - talk to her, talk to her!!" WTF???!! And the next thing, the gal was on, practically crying and asking me to please tell the guy to back off. Another half hour and he was at my hotel lobby telling me to come down, and when I did, he produced his movie camera and instructed me to look and listen to what he captured on his video!!
Flabbergasted, I of course did not/could not do anything - and he then stormed off to confront the Mommie.... and God knows what happened then!!.
Strange how the rational guys that most of us are in real life, some can turn into a totally different person when it concerns mongering and especially in China/CP. I'd like to see what happens if they act the same in their own home countries - especially Japan, The States and other "more developed" economies!!
Just IMHO
SEAJ
A new naked KTV has started up in CP but it is not a new KTV as a matter of fact it is the old Amazon where once it was "the" place to go in CP and unfortunately for me I never had the pleasure of go there in it's hay day.BSD
Fitting that all the girls were scary in this place, it is like a haunted house. The room we had was dated (gas station bathroom) but massive and with very high ceilings - the potential is there and they had a giant porn playing on the projection TV in the main 'dance hall'
I think with time it will improve, the boss will make it happen.
A DOZEN???!! ROFLMAO!!
Come on - you see all the tiny SYT's in CP - and in China generally. You REALLY think that you'll find a dozen BIG/CHUBBY gals here?!!SEAJ
The Mayflower definitely had a few that fit this category, they generally speak english too. i was hoping they would block for me on flower street so i could make and end run. lol
Amazon used to have a huge hall where there wer eonly 2 rows of girls (by row I mean girls on both sides (i.e. 4 total rows)... but it felt and looked like it went on FOREVER.-J
They still use the same area, but there were only 30 odd girls there when we went. It is perfect for a flower street though. the girls are actually up about one step so you can walk by and inspect.
Robin Mill
03-30-10, 04:29
Oh Wow - apologies for making you read this David Yao! After all, your time must really be valuable and all.
Why don't you just ask the pilot of your private helicopter to first give you a tour of Dongguan? Of course I presume that such an important guy as you must have a private chopper. Right?!
Please wave at us peons once a while.
SEAJHi SEAJ
You know what really attract me to this board?
Your super sarcastic remarks!
Makes my day everytime!
More!
SE Asia Joe
03-30-10, 04:49
That is pretty weird. I've had my friends do that kind of stuff to me. I remember one time, one friend wanted to hook up with a girl he met on a previous trip. He had me play detective for 3 days trying to find her. So there I am, for 3 days, calling just about everybody that girl ever came in contact with to find her. The whole time, I'm telling him, "dude, what's the big deal? There's 600 million girls in China, just get another one." The same guy also broke the glass partition that protects the TV at a KTV and then attacked a taxi and broke the windshield and side window. Guess who had to deal with the cab driver? I see him the next morning and he asks me, "dude, how did I get all these cuts on my hand?" Idiot probably lost about a liter of blood that day. There's lot of crazies out there, and sometimes, they turn out to be your best friends.
DITTO!!!
Guys gets all crazy when it comes to pussy don't they??!!! LOL!!
Rational, upstanding, proper gents - sometimes becomes total wrecks when it comes to WG's. Escpecially in China when ALL the rules they've always lived their lives by - goes out the windows!
Too easy.... just too easy!!
ROFLMAO.... thinking about some of the "things" they get up to when here!!
SEAJ
Joe:
Even though I may technically fall under that dreaded class of "Canton Fair" visitors, I can assure you that I do my best not too ruin things and in fact have spent four years learning the language (or trying , LOL) in anticipation of the next stage in my career (and of course all the better to charm the sweet young things).
Anyways - hoping for advice on a trip to CP. One week of relaxing and KTV'ing and if I can con the company I will go to the Show for a couple of hours to ease my guilt.
Anyways - - here's the question, and I have researched the thread as well as HKIA and rail websites. Does it make more sense to bus direct to CP (3.5 hours), or take the 10 minute train to Kowloon, hoof it or taxi to catch the train ? Technically time wise if I don't miss a train that seems faster, but logistics etc.... is the 3.5 hour bus ride the most relaxing option ?
Thanks in advance, and hoping to hook up with a group to party. Will have to contact BSDDave again to get me Clipper ressies and provide some compass work.
Thx in advance.
D23
SE Asia Joe
04-01-10, 05:54
joe:
anyways - - here's the question, and i have researched the thread as well as hkia and rail websites. does it make more sense to bus direct to cp (3.5 hours), or take the 10 minute train to kowloon, hoof it or taxi to catch the train ? technically time wise if i don't miss a train that seems faster, but logistics etc.... is the 3.5 hour bus ride the most relaxing option ?
d23
how about i just outline to you all the various modes of transport from chek lap kok/hkia to cp and thus i can also refer others who may have the same question to this post. and of course to enable you to make up your own mind.
when choosing the actual mode of travel, please consider 1. cost, 2. time of travel, 3. how much luggage/hassle getting on/off various vehicles and border crossing, 4. time of arrival at hkia and the cut off times.
a. direct bus to chang ping – which most times means a nice luxurious 7-seater minivan, from which you most likely will not need to get off from even when crossing the 2 borders. (you do if they stick you in a bus). cost is approximately hk$250 (depends if minivan or bus etc) but last of this service ends approx 8 pm (you sometimes can talk them into still taking you a bit after that!). to avail yourself of this service, turn left after you’ve passed hkg customs/immigration and just before you get to the end of the airport, turn right towards a series of booths offering transport to the mainland. somebody will be able to speak in english to direct you to the right booth. this should take you approximately 2-1/2 - 3 hours.
b. if a is not available (after 8 pm), you can ask for a bus (hk$100 and approx 1 hour)) that will take you to the luohu border crossing (via huanggang) , to get on the crh hi-speed train to cp (rmb 40, 26 minutes). this will involve you getting off at the bus station and hoofing it upstairs to the crh ticket booth. alternatively, you can take the bus to the huangang border and take a taxi to luohu (rmb 25). last crh train to cp is approx 10:45 pm). note that you will need to get on/off the bus twice at both the hong kong as well as china borders.
c. by airport express hkia to kowloon station (hk$100, 20 mins) ), taxi to hunghom train station (hk$25), direct train to cp (hk$145, 70 minutes), 07:25, 08:18, 9:24, 10:42, 13:10, 14:47, 16:35, 17:50, 18:35, 19:24 by the way, one can also take these trains direct to guangzhou (hk$190, 2 hours) plus at 11:28 and 12:14. clear customs/immigration before you get on in hong kong and off in cp/gz.
there’s of course some other methods to go from hkia to cp – but for most guys, i believe that the above info should suffice.
seaj
SE Asia Joe
04-01-10, 06:32
Ever since they renovated the plaza in front of the CP train station, I've had problems getting transport from there.
They've basically only allowed Blue taxis to go in the taxi rank - and they're there like braying wolves, NOT entertaining any fares for less than RMB 20 - with them starting off at RMB 40 for anywhere in CP. Thieves!
The old area where all sorts of taxis used to congregate at is now blocked off.
So, I've hoofed it to the left exit from the quadrant (the street corner where Jindili is at), and there would be a jumble of taxis with their trunks open, uncaringly blocking traffic/causing traffic chaos - and here they want at least RMB 15 for anywhere in CP. Alternatively, I could go to that area left of McDonalds - but there's hardly any taxis - pirate or legal - there, and if I do get lucky, RMB 20 is their opening gambit.
I've had to walk up towards the bus station before I could get on a taxi who will take me for RMB 10 or turn their meter on.
Oh of course it's true that it's only an extra 5 or 10 RMB's and that I shouldn't obsess about it - but I DO obsess about these taxi bandits - both legal as well the pirate ones. Always have and probably always will as I really loathe these CP bandits' sharp practices.
I would like to get you guyses suggestions as to how to get a fairly priced ride out of the train station. Any suggestions would be very welcome
I've only had a fairly good experience when I called BS Dave to ask his driver to pick me up (at the area left of McDonald's) but hate to bother him to do this - for it IS so trivial after all.
Thanks
SEAJ
Jettsetter
04-01-10, 07:41
Ever since they renovated the plaza in front of the CP train station, I've had problems getting tranport from there.
They've basically only allowed Blue taxis to go in the taxi rank - and they're there like braying wolves, NOT entertaining any fares for less than RMB 20 - with them starting off at RMB 40 for anywhere in CP. Thieves!
The old area where all sors of taxis used to congregate at is now blocked off.
So, I've hoofed it to the left exit from the quadrant (the street corner where Jindili is at), and there would be a jumble of taxis with their trunks open, uncaringly blocking traffic/causing traffi chaos - and here they want at least RMB 15 for anywhere in CP. Alternatively, I could go to that area left of McDonalds - but there's hardly any taxis - pirate or legal - there, and if I do get lucky, RMB 20 is their opening gambit.
I've had to walk up towards the bus station before I could get on a taxi who will take me for RMB 10 or turn their meter on.
Oh of course its true that it's only an extra 5 or 10 RMB's and that I shouldn't obsess about it - but I DO obsess about these taxi bandits - both legal as well the pirate ones. Always have and probably always will as I really loathe these CP bandits' sharp practices.
I would like to get you guyses suggestions as to how to get a fairly priced ride out of the train station. Any suggestions would be very welcome
I've only had a failry good experience when I called BS Dave to ask his driver to pick me up (at the area left of McDonald's) but hate to bother him to do this - for it IS so trivial after all.
Thanks
SEAJ
I think the only way is to hoof it up to the Footie place and try to catch a taxi there... either that or pay the ransom at 15 RMB which you can usually get someone to take you to Manhattan for 15 RMB... but anything less - there's no way...
If you're willing to hoof it out you just have to wait for a metered taxi to come by... However, if you got alots of luggage, I'd just walk down taxi row, firm - say 15, and someone will take your bait...
that's what I did last time, instead of them offering me, I offered them - 15 - 15 - 15 and someone took me up on it...
unfortunately that's the only way.
SEAJ - Great advice on the transportation options.. I personally ALWAYS take the 7 person van... if you don't speak chinese, just walk to those counters with buses on them saying "CHANGPING" and the words "XIAO BA" (Small Bus) - or try to communicate "7 SEATER" by saying "QI GE REN DE BA" (7 person - bus) - the cost is fair.... in my opinion, well worth not having to go through the hassle of the customs via foot.
Be there on Apr. 17... hoping to see some familiar faces. Get your hotel booking early!!! I may switch my dates and go to CP towards the end of my trip - May 1-7 to avoid all the heavy hitters.. but we'll see...
anybody planning around them, let me know your dates. We can party.
-J
seaj what a calm nice report! well done brother.
a. i can confirm that the last van is 7.30pm i have very recently checked. maybe if they are running late or short on passengers you might get earlier..
eebus and another service (cgmt?) both go to cp. van should be 220 i think also direct to cp.
or - you can take the van to huanggang or to shenzhen banner key center or shenzhen hotel, then have a driver get you from there. bsd can arrange the driver. this way is 100-120rmb to get to shenzhen and 230 (i think) for the driver to get you.
b. bus to train is not good if you have luggage, simply a pretty big hassle. but doable. remember the trains have little storage for luggage (some by the doors) but you should keep an eye on your bags. this is a doable option and the train is faster than any car.
c. the airport express goes to central station (24 min) + wait time. then take the red line to kowloon, then taxi (or walk to east tst station - no transfer and long walk) to hunghom, then get direct train to cp. imho this is a pain in the ass because hk is very busy and if you have luggage and are there when the trains are crowded... well have fun... option a or b is much better.
oh yeah and joe if you are not from hk - and don't have the hk express passport card, it is a pita to cross at huanggang as it is the cheapest way to cross border (bus) therefore everyone does it at all tiers of life which makes for very very long lines.
fp
how about i just outline to you all the various modes of transport from chek lap kok/hkia to cp and thus i can also refer others who may have the same question to this post. and of course to enable you to make up your own mind.
a. direct bus to chang ping – which most times means a nice luxurious 7-seater minivan, from which you most likely will not need to get off from even when crossing the 2 borders. (you do if they stick you in a bus). cost is approximately hk$250 (depends if minivan or bus etc) but last of this service ends approx 8 pm (you sometimes can talk them into still taking you a bit after that!). to avail yourself of this service, turn left after you’ve passed hkg customs/immigration and just before you get to the end of the airport, turn right towards a series of booths offering transport to the mainland. somebody will be able to speak in english to direct you to the right booth. this should take you approximately 2-1/2 - 3 hours.
b. if a is not available (after 8 pm), you can ask for a bus (hk$100 and approx 1 hour)) that will take you to the luohu border crossing (via huanggang) , to get on the crh hi-speed train to cp (rmb 40, 26 minutes). this will involve you getting off at the bus station and hoofing it upstairs to the crh ticket booth. alternatively, you can take the bus to the huangang border and take a taxi to luohu (rmb 25). last crh train to cp is approx 10:45 pm). note that you will need to get on/off the bus twice at both the hong kong as well as china borders.
c. by airport express hkia to kowloon station (hk$100, 20 mins) ), taxi to hunghom train station (hk$25), direct train to cp (hk$145, 70 minutes), 07:25, 08:18, 9:24, 10:42, 13:10, 14:47, 16:35, 17:50, 18:35, 19:24 by the way, one can also take these trains direct to guangzhou (hk$190, 2 hours) plus at 11:28 and 12:14. clear customs/immigration before you get on in hong kong and off in cp/gz.
there’s of course some other methods to go from hkia to cp – but for most guys, i believe that the above info should suffice.
seaj
I would like to get you guyses suggestions as to how to get a fairly priced ride out of the train station. Any suggestions would be very welcome
SEAJ
The new traffic flow has upped the price. You MIGHT get 10 RMB with a pirate cab if you walk across that open square area parallel to the road there is a parking lot there (walk out exit and continue straight) but i don't consider 5rmb worth the risk of a pirated cab.
you can get them to 15rmb if you ask for 10rmb. i have not since they changed the flow been able to get less than 15 and i regularly got 10 before like you. no one will turn meter on anymore even if they just dropped someone off (yellow cabs).... i have tried.
Member #4144
04-01-10, 19:13
a. direct bus to chang ping –.... this should take you approximately 2-1/2 - 3 hours.
b. ...to get on the crh hi-speed train to cp (rmb 40, 26 minutes....
seaj
a is more relaxing, but slower, b is a bit tricky, but faster. last time my flight landed at 5pm and i got to van/bus area at 5:30 and arrived cp at clipper at 7pm. to get to a cp ktv, you need to arrive as early as possible, so choose b(7person van to huanggang, taxi to luohu, crh to cp) if you can find your way to a taxi at huanggang crossing, as it involvs going up and cross the bridge and fight off the people pulling you to their private cars.
f.
I challenged Pointpanic to "score lots of points" before leaving town, and he then did 3 gals at a time. We need to lock him in a cage, he's a friggin' animal!
Many thanks to SEA Joe, Freepeaks and Fillmore St. for the great advice on getting to CP. It's appreciated. As travel firms up I will be sure to try to contact for some KTV if we can get a group together.
Thanks again.
D23
Silly Newb
04-02-10, 06:41
Thanks!!!
I've met some of the nicest gentlemen via this board .... and also some of the worst ones too! And the plonkers are USUALLY those who hasn't even bothered to do any RTFF at all - and acts, as Stegram succinctly and accurately portays as "...acting like some pompous customer berating the wait staff," in real life as he does on here.
I've even hooked up with a guy who asked me to show him the full catalogue of pictures I had on a gal whose picture I posted up in the Pix gallery, full details of my experience with her,and actually went with him to find the gal.
I thought - hmmm...he'll thoroughly enjoy himself as he was ecstatic and told me that she really was definitely his MCOT!
Well, not a half hour passed by and I had him on the phone shouting "She won't blow me, she won't blow me - talk to her, talk to her!!" WTF???!! And the next thing, the gal was on, practically crying and asking me to please tell the guy to back off. Another half hour and he was at my hotel lobby telling me to come down, and when I did, he produced his movie camera and instructed me to look and listen to what he captured on his video!!
Flabbergasted, I of course did not/could not do anything - and he then stormed off to confront the Mommie.... and God knows what happened then!!.
Strange how the rational guys that most of us are in real life, some can turn into a totally different person when it concerns mongering and especially in China/CP. I'd like to see what happens if they act the same in their own home countries - especially Japan, The States and other "more developed" economies!!
Just IMHO
SEAJThey get the crap kicked out of them, that's what happens. These people need to learn a lesson. If I ever see one of these assholes mongering, I'm going to call the cops and get them deported.
SE Asia Joe
04-02-10, 09:23
C. The Airport Express goes to Central station (24 min) + wait time. Then take the red line to Kowloon, then taxi (or walk to East TST station - no transfer and long walk) to HungHom, then get direct train to CP. IMHO this is a pain in the ass because HK is very busy and if you have luggage and are there when the trains are crowded... well have fun... Option A or B is much better.
fp
A bit of correction here FP - you do NOT want to go to Central Station if your destination is Hung hom. You get off at Kowloon station (on top of Elements shopping mall) and just taxi it over to Hunghom 5-10 mins and HK$25+-
SEAJ
For myself, I found the best thing to do to catch the min-van, is after getting your luggage, with your back towards the luggage carousals and you facing the exits, take the customs exit on the left. Do not take the one on the right side! From this exit door, there is a hallway that leads you to the main hallway of the airport. Within this inner hallway, look for the skylimo booth to buy the ticket. When you buy the ticket, they will give you a sticker and escort you to the bus waiting area. Note, once you enter the airport hallway, you are technically not allowed to re-enter this intermediate hallway. Once, I took the exit on the right side from customs. Turned left, and walked to the row of transport booths. I could only find the bus service where you must exit at the border, not the skylimo Van service where you stay in the Van as you to through the border, so I walked through the gate into the hallway between the customs exit and the airport and bought the ticket. However, security was yelling at me since that area is only for people exiting customs but I just pointed at the skylimo booth and he let me go.
When coming back from CP to to HKIA, I found two different bus services. The hotel I was staying at, Miraton, had the last bus at 4:30PM and said there was no other option for a later bus. If I recall, this is EE bus, and last time I took it, we had to exit the bus at the border. Therefore, I walked 1 minute to the Hui Mei hotel, and bought the 6PM trans-link bus ticket there. The had busses leaving everyhour until about 8PM. The ticket was around 160RMB. This was a big modern bus, however, at the border, abd before crossing it, they transferred me to a skylimo mini-van. From that, we crossed the border without needing to get out! Much better than the Miraton's ee bus.
Miraton said to allow 3 hours for the bus, Hui Mei said 2. 5 hours. The bus left on-time at 6PM and we arrived at HKIA airport at 8:00PM, just 2 hours.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe].
A. Direct bus to Chang Ping – which most times means a nice luxurious 7-seater minivan, from which you most likely will NOT need to get off from even when crossing the 2 borders. (you do if they stick you in a bus). Cost is approximately HK$250 (depends if minivan or bus etc) BUT last of this service ends approx 8 pm (you sometimes can talk them into still taking you a bit after that!). To avail yourself of this service, turn left after you've passed HKG customs/immigration and just before you get to the end of the airport, turn right towards a series of booths offering transport to the mainland. Somebody will be able to speak in English to direct you to the right booth. This should take you approximately 2-1/2. 3 hours.
Pointpanic
04-02-10, 15:52
Actually Santa, you forgot about the two earlier that morning and the one after the three when the Mommy brought two more over and I only chose one after all, my regular and I still had to go to Fuhao to pick another (which I didn't do) to help her Mommie friend out. Back in the US now, but it was great to meet the Boston Newbies, Max, Jim T and Pat Canada and special thanks to Asian Dragon and Wingman, Bruce T and Santa for getting there so I could party with them, BSD thanks for helping with the Clipper Room and driver to the airports. Just really missed hanging with Joe and Wadman as both were out of town. Thanks for the phone chat Joe and email Wadman. However, mongering with Santa on the chicken runs and Night Market with newbies in tow was fun and reminded me of the old days. I appreciate all that you guys did to make my short stay great!
Point
I challenged Pointpanic to "score lots of points" before leaving town, and he then did 3 gals at a time. We need to lock him in a cage, he's a friggin' animal!
A bit of correction here FP - you do NOT want to go to Central Station if your destination is Hung hom. You get off at Kowloon station (on top of Elements shopping mall) and just taxi it over to Hunghom 5-10 mins and HK$25+-
SEAJ
Yes sorry my mistake. Somehow I always missed the Kowloon stop and ended up in Central. Go to Kowloon, second to last stop to Central.
Central is a horrible confusing and crowded station.
Pointpanic,
It was a pleasure to meet up with you. It's been too long since our last encounter and I hope you had a good trip this time. It was short but i'm sure it's well worth it. Thanks for taking the time aside to hang out and come out late at night. Always a pleasure! i think so far this trip you've got some amazing girls that, as usual, end up loving you a lot!
I am in total agreement with Santa, you are a wild animal! uncontrollable!
hope to see you on another trip soon.
AsnDragon
Actually Santa, you forgot about the two earlier that morning and the one after the three when the Mommy brought two more over and I only chose one after all, my regular and I still had to go to Fuhao to pick another (which I didn't do) to help her Mommie friend out. Back in the US now, but it was great to meet the Boston Newbies, Max, Jim T and Pat Canada and special thanks to Asian Dragon and Wingman, Bruce T and Santa for getting there so I could party with them, BSD thanks for helping with the Clipper Room and driver to the airports. Just really missed hanging with Joe and Wadman as both were out of town. Thanks for the phone chat Joe and email Wadman. However, mongering with Santa on the chicken runs and Night Market with newbies in tow was fun and reminded me of the old days. I appreciate all that you guys did to make my short stay great!
Point
So today marks the beginning of Hong Kong's 4 day weekend. All day, I see floods of HK mongers and Taiwan mongers coming to CP. Santa and I had to fight our way through dozens of sharks over at the BBS behind Hui Mei area. This is certainly not an easy time to get girls. BBS shops are empty beyond belief.
4:00 pm on a friday.....
Jia Mei Hotel BBS-- All GONE!
Silver Star BBS room 1- 3 girls
Silver Star BBS room 2- 4 girls
Yalan KTV room- 3 girls
Convinient store second floor-- NONE, all out to hotel rooms for showing.
Baby's room-- 6 girls and 10 taiwanese mongers took 3 of the 6 out when I arrived.
Second floor behind Baby's room--2 on the left side 4 on the right side, 4 hong kong mongers took 2 of the 6 girls when I arrived.
KTVs....
Mayflower was booked 7 days in advance this friday. All rooms were packed. This weekend was completely shot.
Li-Cheng KTV Rooms were completely packed as well, all rooms were sold out due to their grand opening.
I can only imagine it getting worse tomorrow on Saturday. Footie places are packed with long waits, taxis aren't easy to get because it's raining. But what can you do, if it's slow, girl's run away because they get no business. When business is too good, then they give bad service and it's even hard to get a girl that you like at all. But all in all, to be in CP is still the best place to be.
AsnDragon
So i've noticed that CP's KTV has a problem attracting new talent and increasing their supply of girls.
After going to several KTV's I find that there are just too many KTVs in CP that there's an underlying conflict of not being able to get enough girls to work at their establishment. I find that girls are just jumping from one KTV to another one to test out which KTV suites their needs better. You go from one KTV to another thinking you get to see new and different girls, but it ends up that it's still the same pool of girls, they just go from one place to another hoping that customers won't notice that they are a new girl in another KTV place.
Let me give you an example. I go to Mayflower KTV and I see girls that use to work at Jun Hui and Swan Lake KTV. Then I go to Manhattan KTV and I find that some of the girls in Manhattan KTV use to work at Li Cheng KTV. I go to Li Cheng KTV and find that the girls use to work at California Red KTV. I go to Versaille KTV and find that some of the girls use to work at Li Hao KTV and Jun Hui KTV. Now when I say " use to work", i'm meaning like 1 or 2 days ago. The girls are just skipping from one place to another. Of course not All the girls are doing that, but i notice some are and that makes me wonder...is it that hard to attract new girls from outside of CP to come work in CP?
Now, i've only gone to the more popular KTV's recently, but what i noticed is that Mayflower and Euroasia have the best business in CP. Then you got the second tier KTVs like- Manhattan, Penn, Li Hao, Fuhao battling it out for market share. Hui Hua, Hui Mei and Virgin and Miraton hotels are kinda dying. This time going to Hui Mei KTV, I found that the DJ's were prettier than the girls in the line up. In fact I met a BBS girl who use to work at Hui Hua who quit and became a BBS girl because she said Hui Hua's Business was so bad she made more money working in a BBS than at Hui Hua KTV. Of course this is my personal opinion. Then you've got new places like Li Cheng who's only got 60 girls at best and Versaille who's got 30 girls tops trying to establish a foothold in CP's KTV market. I just feel that the pool if girls are spread too thin and there's a lack of new girls.
Now...the underlying question is where are all the girls? Are they up in Shanghai due to the Expo? Or are second tier cities in the inner provinces developing so well that people are no longer willing to travel so far to work they would rather work closer to home? Or is Guangdong's inability to attract works to work in their factories putting a strain on CP's ability to attract new girls to CP? Whatever the case is, I feel that CP's KTVs are going through a transition period to weed out the weaker competitors.
Just my personal opinion on this whole KTV issue that I see these days. Of course I'm probably leaving out like 30 other KTVs that should be put in the comparison, but I'm simply just stating my personal opinion on the ones I've been to so far.
AsnDragon
SE Asia Joe
04-03-10, 07:34
For myself, I found the best thing to do to catch the min-van, is after getting your luggage, with your back towards the luggage carousals and you facing the exits, take the customs exit on the left. Do not take the one on the right side! From this exit door, there is a hallway that leads you to the main hallway of the airport. Within this inner hallway, look for the skylimo booth to buy the ticket. When you buy the ticket, they will give you a sticker and escort you to the bus waiting area. Note, once you enter the airport hallway, you are technically not allowed to re-enter this intermediate hallway. Once, I took the exit on the right side from customs. Turned left, and walked to the row of transport booths. I could only find the bus service where you must exit at the border, not the skylimo Van service where you stay in the Van as you to through the border, so I walked through the gate into the hallway between the customs exit and the airport and bought the ticket. However, security was yelling at me since that area is only for people exiting customs but I just pointed at the skylimo booth and he let me go.
When coming back from CP to to HKIA, I found two different bus services. The hotel I was staying at, Miraton, had the last bus at 4:30PM and said there was no other option for a later bus. If I recall, this is EE bus, and last time I took it, we had to exit the bus at the border. Therefore, I walked 1 minute to the Hui Mei hotel, and bought the 6PM trans-link bus ticket there. The had busses leaving everyhour until about 8PM. The ticket was around 160RMB. This was a big modern bus, however, at the border, abd before crossing it, they transferred me to a skylimo mini-van. From that, we crossed the border without needing to get out! Much better than the Miraton's ee bus.
Miraton said to allow 3 hours for the bus, Hui Mei said 2. 5 hours. The bus left on-time at 6PM and we arrived at HKIA airport at 8:00PM, just 2 hours.
Errrr...... I hope you don't mind - but methinks your post is gonna end up confusing readers here.
There are 2 exits from the customs/luggage area - exit A and B . If you exit via B, turn left and before you reach the end of the airport, look right and you will find the bus area. If you exit via A, then just look ahead and you will find this area.
And as far as the modes of transport - one needs to request whether you want a van or a bus. Vans are much more comfortable without having to get off at the 2 borders with your luggage and fighting the crowd to get accross - but will be a bit more expensive.
Service hour is up to aroun d 7:30 - 8:00 pm - and again its a matter of asking.
From CP to HKIA - just specify what you want with your hotel (the concierge or the business centre) to arrange it - Van or bus and they should be able to advise you. There is though the same approx 8 pm cut off time.
SEAJ
Robin Mill
04-03-10, 08:17
So i've noticed that CP's KTV has a problem attracting new talent and increasing their supply of girls.
After going to several KTV's I find that there are just too many KTVs in CP that there's an underlying conflict of not being able to get enough girls to work at their establishment. I find that girls are just jumping from one KTV to another one to test out which KTV suites their needs better. You go from one KTV to another thinking you get to see new and different girls, but it ends up that it's still the same pool of girls, they just go from one place to another hoping that customers won't notice that they are a new girl in another KTV place.
Let me give you an example. I go to Mayflower KTV and I see girls that use to work at Jun Hui and Swan Lake KTV. Then I go to Manhattan KTV and I find that some of the girls in Manhattan KTV use to work at Li Cheng KTV. I go to Li Cheng KTV and find that the girls use to work at California Red KTV. I go to Versaille KTV and find that some of the girls use to work at Li Hao KTV and Jun Hui KTV. Now when I say " use to work", i'm meaning like 1 or 2 days ago. The girls are just skipping from one place to another. Of course not All the girls are doing that, but i notice some are and that makes me wonder...is it that hard to attract new girls from outside of CP to come work in CP?
Now, i've only gone to the more popular KTV's recently, but what i noticed is that Mayflower and Euroasia have the best business in CP. Then you got the second tier KTVs like- Manhattan, Penn, Li Hao, Fuhao battling it out for market share. Hui Hua, Hui Mei and Virgin and Miraton hotels are kinda dying. This time going to Hui Mei KTV, I found that the DJ's were prettier than the girls in the line up. In fact I met a BBS girl who use to work at Hui Hua who quit and became a BBS girl because she said Hui Hua's Business was so bad she made more money working in a BBS than at Hui Hua KTV. Of course this is my personal opinion. Then you've got new places like Li Cheng who's only got 60 girls at best and Versaille who's got 30 girls tops trying to establish a foothold in CP's KTV market. I just feel that the pool if girls are spread too thin and there's a lack of new girls.
Now...the underlying question is where are all the girls? Are they up in Shanghai due to the Expo? Or are second tier cities in the inner provinces developing so well that people are no longer willing to travel so far to work they would rather work closer to home? Or is Guangdong's inability to attract works to work in their factories putting a strain on CP's ability to attract new girls to CP? Whatever the case is, I feel that CP's KTVs are going through a transition period to weed out the weaker competitors.
Just my personal opinion on this whole KTV issue that I see these days. Of course I'm probably leaving out like 30 other KTVs that should be put in the comparison, but I'm simply just stating my personal opinion on the ones I've been to so far.
AsnDragonHi AsnDragon
A very good insight! I agreed with you on your points.
I will be there in June, so hopefully everything will be back like the good old days.
Employment practise in CP is so silly. Instead of rewarding staffs to make them stay, they hold onto them with deposits, or a cut in a month wage if you leave. You have low morale stuff, with no loyalty to the company, low service standard and quality.
How do the company make it up? By employing more of this peons at low low wage, put in a big pools of them at the entrance, and shouting 'WELCOME' whenever you enter to make you feel like a king.
Really weird.
Santa and I had to fight our way through dozens of sharks over at the BBS behind Hui Mei area. This is certainly not an easy time to get girls. BBS shops are empty beyond belief.
4:00 pm on a friday.....
Jia Mei Hotel BBS-- All GONE!
Silver Star BBS room 1- 3 girls
Silver Star BBS room 2- 4 girls
Yalan KTV room- 3 girls
Convinient store second floor-- NONE, all out to hotel rooms for showing.
Baby's room-- 6 girls and 10 taiwanese mongers took 3 of the 6 out when I arrived.
Second floor behind Baby's room--2 on the left side 4 on the right side, 4 hong kong mongers took 2 of the 6 girls when I arrived.
AsnDragon
Excellent posts by AsnDragon.
But as bad as the situation may get on a very busy weekend, if I go hunting early there are always some girls available that I like. So, life is good.
There are definately fewer girls available at the bbs. Numbers and quality is way down. I remember seeing a news report somewhere about a big decline in young workers coming to GuangDong and the other southern areas in search of work. Is that correct?
Still, as long as I can catch nice fish, all is well. It's better than Kansas!
So, I've hoofed it to the left exit from the quadrant (the street corner where Jindili is at), and there would be a jumble of taxis with their trunks open, uncaringly blocking traffic/causing traffic chaos - and here they want at least RMB 15 for anywhere in CP.
Thanks
SEAJ
If you goto the perimeter of this jumble mess, some of the recently arrived taxis are willing to go by meter. I can always get one to go by meter after asking several taxis max.
Just came back from a 8 day solo trip to SZ, CA, and CP.
Hooked up with BSD Dave who had a KTV party at Fuhao.
Well, being a person who prefers going solo (due to time constraints), does not like drinking, singing, etc. I have never gone to or really been interested in KTV before (except for the common bar area at the HH hotel). I figure, why pay all that extra when I could have probably have 5+ BBS girls in one night for the same cost as what I'd spend at the KTV.
But for variety, experience, and the opportunity to meet others, I gave it a try. Dave instructed us to choose the gals with the rectangular yellow number tags who would dance topless for us. I choose two girls in the flower street. The 2nd one was not my preference initially, but shortly afterwards, I was glad I did. She was really GFE.
It was quite interesting to see the totally different preferences and styles of girls each guy has chosen. Wow!
It was great to see others party, learn and play the stupid dice games, and the topless dance was certainly the highlight of the evening.
The 2nd backup girl I had chosen was GFE all night, cuddly, kiss-kissy. And I took her back, and paid the other more cute but less GFE one her sitting fee.
Once the thick and poor makeup job got washed off, she was super cute, sweet, young, and fresh, and incredibly GFE. She went way beyond what most girls would do in terms of GFE in both her personality and beyond the call of duty actions. She swears I'm first guy to do that. But who knows.
Out of hundreds of girls, and many years of mongering, I have never repeated a girl twice despite how great they were. This one was my first repeat. She (like theo others) gave me her qq, email, and all her contact info but so far still keeps in contact with me.
The weird thing, and not so suprisingly, was on my last day, she SMS with an urgent need for money as there was a death in her family, and so forth. She said she did not want to bother me or ask for my help since she did NOT love me. Though she still needed to find a way to get help. Like a bad movie that you know the ending too. She then asked me for a small amount of money. Similar to her KTV fee, and she would accompany me without charge next time I came to China.
Well. It didn't matter what the truth is, and the fantasy is certainly better than reality anyways. She undoubtably deserved a tip for her services, so I met her at my hotel with her sister, and non of that heavy makeup,. It was a pleassure to such a sweet, young, friendly, smily, kiss. Girl and I gave her a much smaller tip that she asked for, but reasonable.
She still keeps in touch with me daily by email.
In Summary, the KTV party with BDS Dave is a great opportunity for those traveling alone and wanting to try a party. I recommend a party that has extras such as the top-less dancing to make it exciting. The cost of the party with Dave, was cheaper and a lot more fun than if I had rented a small room for myself.
Thanks Dave!
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SE Asia Joe
04-03-10, 17:10
Excellent posts by AsnDragon.
But as bad as the situation may get on a very busy weekend, if I go hunting early there are always some girls available that I like. So, life is good.
There are definately fewer girls available at the bbs. Numbers and quality is way down. I remember seeing a news report somewhere about a big decline in young workers coming to GuangDong and the other southern areas in search of work. Is that correct?
Still, as long as I can catch nice fish, all is well. It's better than Kansas!
Got a theory.... and it's that if one does not care one way or the other, then the gals will be there!!! Just like that!
Got in to CP and right away went to the Jun hui to check it out....; even before I dropped off my bag. 6:10 PM, Saturday afternoon.... and what did I see??
26 ..... yup.... I counted them and there were 26 gals - mostly brand new ones. Only I wasn't all that ready as I needed to drop off my luggage etc first and all that!! But still, I did see 26 gals - which considering
Asn dragon's bad luck.... must at least be 200% better than what he saw all over the place.
ROFLMAO!!!
SEAJ
Jettsetter
04-04-10, 04:45
Got a theory.... and it's that if one does not care one way or the other, then the gals will be there!!! Just like that!
Got in to CP and right away went to the Jun hui to check it out....; even before I dropped off my bag. 6:10 PM, Saturday afternoon.... and what did I see??
26 ..... yup.... I counted them and there were 26 gals - mostly brand new ones. Only I wasn't all that ready as I needed to drop off my luggage etc first and all that!! But still, I did see 26 gals - which considering
Asn dragon's bad luck.... must at least be 200% better than what he saw all over the place.
ROFLMAO!!!
SEAJ
IN THE END, isn't it just about getting one??? haha.. or in the case of some some friends I've been with - two or three? But yah, totally agree that having weak numbers of gals weakens your chances of finding that "one"...
that's why I've been in the practice of calling lots of regulars... It's still fun to find NEW ONES... but the work and not knowing if they'll be good.. that's all something that makes it risky...
Happy hunting... see you all soon.
-J
Yuxiaoying
04-04-10, 12:30
Have anyone been to California Red?
How was the girls quality?
SE Asia Joe
04-05-10, 05:58
Have anyone been to California Red?
How was the girls quality?
Just curious and apoloigze for asking:
you've been an ISG member for two years and this is your first post. On top of that I figure that you must not do much reading of our pages - for otherwise, you'd find tons of information on California Red here.
OK - the questions:
1. Why is it that you become/continue as a member here?
2. Do you realize that ISG is about SHARING information?
Just curious
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-05-10, 06:02
but the work and not knowing if they'll be good.. that's all something that makes it risky...
-J
Ahh yes.... risky - but a helluva lot of fun ain't it??
And totally affordable in CP... even nowadays!
Hope to God that things don't change too much too soon. At least give me the time to when I hang up my hat!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-05-10, 06:10
The weird thing, and not so suprisingly, was on my last day, she SMS with an urgent need for money as there was a death in her family, and so forth. She said she did not want to bother me or ask for my help since she did NOT love me. Though she still needed to find a way to get help. Like a bad movie that you know the ending too. She then asked me for a small amount of money. Similar to her KTV fee, and she would accompany me without charge next time I came to China.
Well. It didn't matter what the truth is, and the fantasy is certainly better than reality anyways. She undoubtably deserved a tip for her services, so I met her at my hotel with her sister, and non of that heavy makeup,. It was a pleassure to such a sweet, young, friendly, smily, kiss. Girl and I gave her a much smaller tip that she asked for, but reasonable.
She still keeps in touch with me daily by email.
Thanks Dave!
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Let me first state that I am the suckiest of suckers when it comes to "falling" for some of the stories our SYT's comes up with.
But some of these gals - they do have a wonderful talent when it comes to getting under our skin and we open up our wallets.... all the while thinking - "Yeah, I'm doing a good thing.... and its such a small amount anyways! Yeah!!"
The only thing I can say is that one must always know when the line is crossed between trivial or affordable amounts, to when it becomes un-manageable
Just IMHO... and just enjoy the ride!!
SEAJ
Meiguoguizi
04-05-10, 13:08
But some of these gals - they do have a wonderful talent when it comes to getting under our skin and we open up our wallets.... all the while thinking - "Yeah, I'm doing a good thing.... and its such a small amount anyways! Yeah!!"
The only thing I can say is that one must always know when the line is crossed between trivial or affordable amounts, to when it becomes un-manageable
SEAJ
In the same manner that the young provider is in the business for money, the additional money should be for additional service. If we are truly 'lovers', than she should be warming my bed 'mian fei de' without charge.
It is statistically likely that just about every girl in the business has family obligations that include medical emergencies, younger brothers that need college tuition, grandma's breast augmentation, drunken abusive fathers, or whatever.
Those of us that are in China on a regular basis can give the enterprising whiner an opportunity to earn the additional amount. If you are not returning to China, download a copy of QQ international, get her QQ number, and get her to repay you with intimate video calls.
Those of us that are in China on a regular basis can give the enterprising whiner an opportunity to earn the additional amount. If you are not returning to China, download a copy of QQ international, get her QQ number, and get her to repay you with intimate video calls.In my case, I only gave her the tip because she more than earned the additional amount during the prior two nights (she spent 19-hour each night) with her GFE services for 2 days, which included service that went beyond the call of duty (with a little encouragement). She did also give me her her QQ, and we do video chat as well. Though still working up to her showing more skin. Of course, as we all know, it is often better than we don't get involved so much. What makes it so good. Is also what will make it so bad.
Mit Fo Lfe
04-06-10, 05:35
back in the day -- and i've been coming to cp now since '02 - amazon used to be what jia yi was before mayflower took over... in fact in '02 it was just lion, that was it, and line-ups started at 8:30...
then it got progressively earlier and earlier... what has the world come to??
amazon used to have a huge hall where there wer eonly 2 rows of girls (by row i mean girls on both sides (i.e. 4 total rows)... but it felt and looked like it went on forever.
my first exposure to flower street was at amazon.... ahhh the memories!!
-jahh the memories. thanks to j. i've been going back to cp since and have met some dope peeps along the way. big ups to bsd for always taking care of us.
Mit Fo Lfe
04-06-10, 05:43
A new naked KTV has started up in CP but it is not a new KTV as a matter of fact it is the old Amazon where once it was "the" place to go in CP and unfortunately for me I never had the pleasure of go there in it's hay day.
Amazon is located at the end of Swan Lake Road next to Mayflower. It belongs to the Versailles Hotel. For those of you that has never been to the Amazon, it's a jungle in there. The place is old and better suited for a haunted house. The new management has begun some moderate renovation and upgrade but the place still needs a lot of improvement.
WGs are 2-5-8 and if they strip naked, it's 100RMB more (i.e. 3-6-9). The quality and quanitity at this moment is left to be desired but it is a good place to go if you have the urge to go to Chang An but without the time. They only have about 30% of the girls available for stripping at this time so I will try them again in about a month's time and report back at a later time.
BSDRevitalizing amazon eh? May have to check it out when I'm out there next. First visited there back in '04.
Mit Fo Lfe
04-06-10, 05:45
Have been coming to CP for about 16 months and living here for the past 10 but have never been to the LSHR (丽城假日酒店）which is about 10 minutes from the train station. This is a 5 STAR hotel that is inside the YinXian （隐贤山莊）Resort area (more about this resort area in another post). The deluxe room in this hotel is 495RMB per night. AsnDragon，Doublefly， Waterfish， Oskatee, a non-ISG brother and I decided to be guinea pigs and try out this new place and to our pleasant surprise, we had a wonderful time there.
We had a large room with a 1,280 minimum. TsingTao was 42RMB/per bottle, buy 1 get 1 free. WGs were in 4 categories: 2-5-8, 3-6-9, 3-8-12, and 5-15-20. One gimmick that we liked were that some of the 2-5-8, and 3-6-9 girls were dressed in Silky mini-skirt pajamas with no bra. The 3-8-12 girls have to be 1.68m or taller but cannot see a good value for the 5-15-20 girls which were all only available to sit (it's too coincidental that all 5 of them had periods at the same time...) and cannot go out after KTV activities. One quirky thing about the room is that the toilet is located outside the KTV room which IMHO is not a very good idea as WGs can excuse themselves to the toilet and be gone for 10-15 minutes. We had some really nice looking and fun WGs in our room that night and had an excellent time.
One thing to remember when you are going to this place is to tell the taxi driver to take you to the KTV and not drop you off at the hotel entrance as it is a good 1/8 mile distance away.
This is a good alternative to the same places that we often frequent in CP and will be going back there with more ISG brothers in the weekends.
BSDBSD,
This one to the list of places to hit up when I head out there.
SE Asia Joe
04-06-10, 13:01
In the same manner that the young provider is in the business for money, the additional money should be for additional service. If we are truly 'lovers', than she should be warming my bed 'mian fei de' without charge.
It is statistically likely that just about every girl in the business has family obligations that include medical emergencies, younger brothers that need college tuition, grandma's breast augmentation, drunken abusive fathers, or whatever.
Those of us that are in China on a regular basis can give the enterprising whiner an opportunity to earn the additional amount. If you are not returning to China, download a copy of QQ international, get her QQ number, and get her to repay you with intimate video calls.
Actually.... Mian fei sex is no big deal to them, for after all, they ARE in the business of giving away sex in exchange for $$!!
And the danger here is that we as mongers fall into these traps - deluding yourselves into thinking that since you've "contributed above and beyond the call of duty" that they see how great a guy you are/falls in love with you and in turn will be with you with true love and devotion. Well..... this ain't how this works!! LOL!! All it is, is that they've now gotten you convinced that this is the "real" thing.
OTH, I say that this is all fine and dandy IF you on your part realize that this is just par for the course. Go along with the fantasy of True Love and unselfish Devotion etc - but KNOW in your heart of heart that is nothing more than a nice, romantic step up from the usual " I fuck you, you give me money."
These kind of fantasies are great to really live through and experience - but always know its a fantasy. Smell the coffee - how old are you, how fat are you, how much hair have you got? Less than your wrinkles? And her - what? All of 19, 20 or 21? Looks good, smells nice and fucks you so well?? Yeah a match made in heaven and ....... $$$$$!!!!
And BTW - QQ!!! BAAAAADDDD idea!! All it is a just another means - a long distance means - for her to extract some more "$$Loving$$" from you!! And what do you get?? Computer sex?? What is that BTW - you stick your dick into the disc player or what??
Apologies!!! Apologize for perhaps pricking some guy's ego and/or thoughts about how macho they are/thus their gal really luv yu long time!! LOL!!
(Hey - I gotta write this out once a while to keep on reminding myself first and foremost!! So no brick-bats please!!)
SEAJ
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For mens it is always the same, "the meat is always stronger than the brain".
Actually.... Mian fei sex is no big deal to them, for after all, they ARE in the business of giving away sex in exchange for $$!!
And the danger here is that we as mongers fall into these traps, deluding ourselves into thinking that since we've "contributed above and beyond the call of duty" that they see how great a guy you are/falls in love with you and in turn will be with you with true love and devotion. Well..... this ain't how this works!! LOL!! All it is, is that they've now gotten you convinced that this is the "real" thing.
OTH, I say that this is all fine and dandy IF you on your part realize that this is just par for the course. Go along with the fantasy of True Love and unselfish Devotion etc - but KNOW in your heart of heart that is nothing more than a nice, romantic step up from the usual " I fuck you, you give me money."
These kind of fantasies are great to really live - but always know its a fantasy. Smell the coffee - how old are you, how fat are you, how much hair have you got? Less than your wrinkles? And her - what? All of 19, 20 or 21? Looks good, smells nice and fucks you so well?? Yeah a match made in heaven and ....... $$$$$!!!!
And BTW - QQ!!! BAAAAADDDD idea!! All it is a just another means - a long distance means - for her to extract some more "$$Loving$$" from you!! And what do you get?? Computer sex?? What is that BTW - you stick your dick into the disc player or what??
Apologies!!! Apologize for perhaps pricking some guy's ego and/or thoughts about how macho they are/thus their gal really luv yu long time!! LOL!!
(Hey - I gotta write this out once a while to keep on reminding myself first and foremost!! So no brick-bats please!!)
SEAJ
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Well, maybe they don't love the rest of you wrinkly, fat and hairless old geezers. But they really do love me! They really do! Genuine true love and devotion!
Wow! I'm sooo lucky!
Eat your heart out Joe! :D
SE Asia Joe
04-07-10, 06:55
Well, maybe they don't love the rest of you wrinkly, fat and hairless old geezers. But they really do love me! They really do! Genuine true love and devotion!
Wow! I'm sooo lucky!
Eat your heart out Joe! :D
Well OF COURSE!!!
Everybody - and I mean EVERY-BODY loves Santa with his rub-a-tub-tub tummy, silver beard, red suit and nose and..... his bag of goodies!!
Especially his bag of goodies!!
SEAJ
Big Swingin Dave
04-07-10, 17:37
The Xiang Ying (翔盈国际酒店）Hotel is located near the Chang Ping Main Hospital down the street from the Eurasia hotel. This hotel was opened a couple months ago with the official opening on Friday, April 2nd. Thanks to AsnDragon, Jim Traveller, Waterfish, Bruce Tea， Legal Lad, and another non-ISG brother, we went venturing there for a reconnaissance party couple nights back and this place by far must be the brightest lit place in any of the KTV that I have been to. The KTV rooms inside actually makes you feel more like you are at home than at a KTV as there are no dimly lit neon lights anywhere to be found.
Unfortunately for us we went on a Tuesday night where 30% of the girls were off after a grueling 4 days weekend in which none of the WGs were allowed to take a night off or they would be fined. The mommy that we booked the room with told me that 8 out of her 30 girls were off that evening and said that most of the other mommies had the same problem; however, given the talent that were presented, we had a surprisingly good night.
The WGs are priced at two categories： 2-5-8，and 3-7-10. There are no flower street on weekdays. They are trying to get business so they are offering alcohol (blue girl) at really cheap prices for 195 per dozen or buy two dozen at regular price (485 per dozen) and get three dozen free. We ended up having a great time for a cheap price (280 per person including DJ). The hardware is great so if they improve on the software, this is definitely a place to try out. We will go back on a weekend night and try it out and give everyone a feedback at that time.
BSD
Heard an interesting story tonight from an experienced China monger. This was while drinking beer with friends in the Swan Lake Beer Garden.
One year ago he was walking around the Walking Street area. He followed a "mommy" into an apartment building to see some girls. This was to a shop he had not been to before. He was jumped by 3 thugs, beaten and held captive in a room. They searched him and found his hotel roomcard. They searched his room and stole what they could. They also took his atm card and demanded his pin number.
A similar story was posted by another ISG member.
So, beware of strangers. Do not follow touts, unless you already know who they are and where you are going.
Here's my brief Sauna report of CA and CP
ChangAn:
Spent 2 days in CA, 2 weeks ago, and all the sauna's were operating underground. The hotel sauna would say "no special/sexy girl" sauna. But went to the hotel manager, who called the mama-san, and they took me to the secret floor of the hotel where the sauna operation was still going on. I was able to get a good discount on a 2-girl sauna too. Similar stories with other massage clubs, they would call the mama-san, take you to a separate wing and pay separate from the club, unlike before. Service was good enough, but not fantastic like before, and didn't really feel safe knowing that the police check the place every night.. So, I left for CP.
Changping:
Train Station Massage:
Went to the large massage place across the street and slightly diagonal left from the train station. I just wanted a foot massage, but was brought upstairs, down dark spooky hallways into a regular bedroom/sauna room. They immediately brought in a tray with small cups of various stuff like ice, orange, milk, and tea colored liquids. They then gave 3 massage choices. I chose the middle one for 288 total charge which they said included the girl stripping and a BBBJ. Had to go through several line-ups to get a girl that was just barely acceptable, though they all seemed quite friendly and personable. What followed was basically a full 90 sauna service minus full service and the dance. This included AR. I'm pretty sure it included 2 shots as well, since they started the first BBBJ early on.
In summary, for BBBJ, AR, and sauna lovers, this is a very cheap way to get nearly a sauna-like service, without the intercourse, if you can tolerate the lower quality line-ups. Or for about 80-100rmb more, you can get full service. I was just using them as a warm-up to recharge myself before I went to the higher quality saunas. However, she was talented enough that it took a lot of mental effort to stop her to save my shots However, I'm going to stick to the higher quality saunas, and try their basic massage as a warm-up instead, simply because
Mei Bao Sauna: 4th floor.
What was really great about this sauna is that there are no line-ups. Instead, you go to a large room, where all the girls are. You can sit there and take your time to choose your perfect type. Most girls were 500 inclusive with room. They have girls starting at around noon, but the best time to go is at 4PM, when they all come in. They had a very large variety of types, including some tall skinny very pretty girls that were still in the 500 category.
Their service was pretty much standard sauna service with the addition of a string of anal beads, if you choose. Unfortunately, she won't let you do them on her The service was OK, but I found I had to keep on top of my girl. For example, after the initial BBBJ, she just stopped and tried to cuddle. I had to use my translator to tell her to get going and do all the steps. For AR, she tried to use a condom. I simply said "no", and there was no argument. For the feet licking, they used plastic wrap, but that was fine with me. On the way out, I took another look at the group, there was a hot, tall, fresh Hubei girl that I just had to go back for the next day. I didn't need to tell her to do all the steps, but same deal with the AR Both girls immediately stopped the BBBJ a bit too soon, making a little mess.
Virgin Sauna:
Went back to Virgin Sauna, used the same mama-san as last year. Apparently, she remembered me well because she takes the girl out and explains my service preferences I could hear the other girls in the hallway giggling, and peaking in while she gives her instructions. As a result, I always get impeccable and amazing service, mostly in regards to BBBJ and AR. I don't like to complain or instruct the sauna girl. I go in there completely exhausted thinking I'd be lucky to be able to do one shot, and they pull out two, and I walk out practically crawling, knees shaking, Their service routine, including the AR, was all just "deeply" satisfying. They give non-stop very professional skilled service, without having to direct or keep an eye on them. Except, the last day I went there, my mama-san was not there, and I went at a bad time (noon), and had to go through several several average line-ups to finally get a choice of 2 hot sexy young Hubei girls. My mama-san was not there to explain to her. I knew she would be a little trouble, when the girl pushed me to get 2 girls. I should have swapped her out at that point but didn't want to make trouble. The service (BBBJ and AR issues) initially went identical as Mei Bao Sauna, and then at the end we had an alleged "communication issue" with finishing with a 2nd BBBJ instead of full service. I had to called in the manager, who spoke English, and they said, "do not worry, Virgin sauna specializes in service, and all girls are required to do BBBJ. She was just afraid I would complain if we didn't make love for the 2nd shot. This was all that true since the girl had tried to complain to me about her mouth being tired/pain. I asked the manager to translate some do's and don'ts for the BBBJ as well just to see what would happen, because being the last day, and quite exhausted, I really didn't think a 2nd shot was possible. What happened next was we went slightly over the 2 hours hours while she performed an impeccable and perfect BBBJ just like the previous girls at Virgin had (no spitting, no stopping, continues sucking after the finish, etc)
The lesson learned is if you have particular things you like and dislike, and want things done in a particular way, make sure you communicate that up front. I had a friend translate the instructions into Chinese, and showed it mama-sans. I have never been less than amazed when I've done that.
Final note, the routine at Virgin sauna was not as varied as last year. For example, no toe fucking, no finger sucking, no 360 degree BBBJ with handstand. I do miss the sauna routines at Zhuhai that had a large variety of steps. Though, the step where they turn your member into a flaming torch was not a favorite.
If anyone knows of sauna's with the long, or longer list of crazy menu steps let me know.
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Orang123,
I personally think that Virgin Sauna is just alright. Sure they have those costume line up, but that does nothing for me. IN fact I feel that it hinders your ability to assess the girl's body. For example, when they wear those office lady uniforms or the nurse uniform, you can't see how large their breasts are if they have a fat or flat tummy. So sometimes their costumes can be deceiving.
Places that have longer list of menu i would say is Prince Hotel Sauna in Huangjiang. The girls usually do the whole routine including a vibrator and even a strange rubber fruit they dip in hot water and etc, which they had last time, not sure if they have this time. They constantly change their routine, but they do have a fuck chair, which sometimes is good cause it's less stress on your thighs and back when you get to stand up and do the girls. If you are willing to pay for the top model category you get to use the room that has the round bed that rotates in a counterclockwise direction. Model girls can be viewed with their clothes taken off in a one way mirror line up where you can see them but they cannot see you.
Golden Island Sauna in Tangxia is pretty famous, they even have a stripper pole in the room where they do a dance for you if you are into that. I'll write a more detailed report on Golden Island Sauna in a later report.
Saunas that use to be good in CP like Hui Mei, Hui Hua are getting lazy. In my last encounter, the girls in Hui Mei don't even go through any menu list at all anymore. Most of them are just plain lazy. Virgin has a consistent service level, as they have stricter policy and a lot of girls they got to compete with. While Hui Mei and other places have tough time even retaining their current girls to stay with their organization. Which is pretty sad, since I use to have great service at Hui Mei, but now their service is mediocre at best.
Once again..proper management is very important in the success of any organization. Apparently, Virgin's got it right, while other saunas in CP are lagging behind.
Just my personal opinion.
AsnDragon
Here's my brief Sauna report of CA and CP
ChangAn:
Spent 2 days in CA, 2 weeks ago, and all the sauna's were operating underground. The hotel sauna would say "no special/sexy girl" sauna. But went to the hotel manager, who called the mama-san, and they took me to the secret floor of the hotel where the sauna operation was still going on. I was able to get a good discount on a 2-girl sauna too. Similar stories with other massage clubs, they would call the mama-san, take you to a separate wing and pay separate from the club, unlike before. Service was good enough, but not fantastic like before, and didn't really feel safe knowing that the police check the place every night.. So, I left for CP.
Changping:
Train Station Massage:
Went to the large massage place across the street and slightly diagonal left from the train station. I just wanted a foot massage, but was brought upstairs, down dark spooky hallways into a regular bedroom/sauna room. They immediately brought in a tray with small cups of various stuff like ice, orange, milk, and tea colored liquids. They then gave 3 massage choices. I chose the middle one for 288 total charge which they said included the girl stripping and a BBBJ. Had to go through several line-ups to get a girl that was just barely acceptable, though they all seemed quite friendly and personable. What followed was basically a full 90 sauna service minus full service and the dance. This included AR. I'm pretty sure it included 2 shots as well, since they started the first BBBJ early on.
In summary, for BBBJ, AR, and sauna lovers, this is a very cheap way to get nearly a sauna-like service, without the intercourse, if you can tolerate the lower quality line-ups. Or for about 80-100rmb more, you can get full service. I was just using them as a warm-up to recharge myself before I went to the higher quality saunas. However, she was talented enough that it took a lot of mental effort to stop her to save my shots However, I'm going to stick to the higher quality saunas, and try their basic massage as a warm-up instead, simply because
Mei Bao Sauna: 4th floor.
What was really great about this sauna is that there are no line-ups. Instead, you go to a large room, where all the girls are. You can sit there and take your time to choose your perfect type. Most girls were 500 inclusive with room. They have girls starting at around noon, but the best time to go is at 4PM, when they all come in. They had a very large variety of types, including some tall skinny very pretty girls that were still in the 500 category.
Their service was pretty much standard sauna service with the addition of a string of anal beads, if you choose. Unfortunately, she won't let you do them on her The service was OK, but I found I had to keep on top of my girl. For example, after the initial BBBJ, she just stopped and tried to cuddle. I had to use my translator to tell her to get going and do all the steps. For AR, she tried to use a condom. I simply said "no", and there was no argument. For the feet licking, they used plastic wrap, but that was fine with me. On the way out, I took another look at the group, there was a hot, tall, fresh Hubei girl that I just had to go back for the next day. I didn't need to tell her to do all the steps, but same deal with the AR Both girls immediately stopped the BBBJ a bit too soon, making a little mess.
Virgin Sauna:
Went back to Virgin Sauna, used the same mama-san as last year. Apparently, she remembered me well because she takes the girl out and explains my service preferences I could hear the other girls in the hallway giggling, and peaking in while she gives her instructions. As a result, I always get impeccable and amazing service, mostly in regards to BBBJ and AR. I don't like to complain or instruct the sauna girl. I go in there completely exhausted thinking I'd be lucky to be able to do one shot, and they pull out two, and I walk out practically crawling, knees shaking, Their service routine, including the AR, was all just "deeply" satisfying. They give non-stop very professional skilled service, without having to direct or keep an eye on them. Except, the last day I went there, my mama-san was not there, and I went at a bad time (noon), and had to go through several several average line-ups to finally get a choice of 2 hot sexy young Hubei girls. My mama-san was not there to explain to her. I knew she would be a little trouble, when the girl pushed me to get 2 girls. I should have swapped her out at that point but didn't want to make trouble. The service (BBBJ and AR issues) initially went identical as Mei Bao Sauna, and then at the end we had an alleged "communication issue" with finishing with a 2nd BBBJ instead of full service. I had to called in the manager, who spoke English, and they said, "do not worry, Virgin sauna specializes in service, and all girls are required to do BBBJ. She was just afraid I would complain if we didn't make love for the 2nd shot. This was all that true since the girl had tried to complain to me about her mouth being tired/pain. I asked the manager to translate some do's and don'ts for the BBBJ as well just to see what would happen, because being the last day, and quite exhausted, I really didn't think a 2nd shot was possible. What happened next was we went slightly over the 2 hours hours while she performed an impeccable and perfect BBBJ just like the previous girls at Virgin had (no spitting, no stopping, continues sucking after the finish, etc)
The lesson learned is if you have particular things you like and dislike, and want things done in a particular way, make sure you communicate that up front. I had a friend translate the instructions into Chinese, and showed it mama-sans. I have never been less than amazed when I've done that.
Final note, the routine at Virgin sauna was not as varied as last year. For example, no toe fucking, no finger sucking, no 360 degree BBBJ with handstand. I do miss the sauna routines at Zhuhai that had a large variety of steps. Though, the step where they turn your member into a flaming torch was not a favorite.
If anyone knows of sauna's with the long, or longer list of crazy menu steps let me know.
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Heard an interesting story tonight from an experienced China monger. This was while drinking beer with friends in the Swan Lake Beer Garden.
So, beware of strangers. Do not follow touts, unless you already know who they are and where you are going.
Good reminder.
The BBSs in CP have been pretty stocked these days. Lots of new talent and lots of gals of different types to appeal to many mongers. But stay aware and don't let your guard down.
I went with Santa to a BBS in Swan Lake. Santa found his SYT and asked me, "If I MUST pick a girl from the remaining lineup, who would I pick?" I chose, and lo and behold, she was in my arms walking back to the hotel with me. We did the fun and I quite enjoyed her. Now the boohoo part. She has no phone, no place to stay, blah blah and needed clothes, blah blah, and has no friends, blah blah...paid, and sent her on her way.
Two days later, found her again (specifically seek her out since she had no phone) and she came to my room with new clothes (wearing a hip hop new hat). Seems biz is good, eh? I showered by myself, and she playfully watched me. Then she playfully closed the bathroom door. Now, I've been going to CP for around 6 months, so I sensed something strange. Came out, played with her, did the deed and gave her 100 rmb and she left.
Now, looking at my pocket, I found 300 to 500 rmb missing. Also strange was my hung denim jeans was on the closet floor.
The closet was immediately in front of the bathroom door. So closed, she could've opened the closet door and got some bills out of my pocket. How did she know where I kept my money? Well, I paid her the first time I had her, so she knows exactly where my money was. She also begged an extra one hundred the first time I paid her and so she must've observed where I put my remaining money.
Lesson: Put all your money (and valuables, especially small items such as watches and good pens) in the SAFE. Leave only a few hundred rmbs to pay her and her cab ride back. Seems like a hassle, but little stuff like this happens.
Not mad at her or her BBS shop, but I am disappointed in myself for being careless. I had her around 5:00 pm so I had money in my pocket in preparation for a KTV night out (with Dave and AsnDragon and all those crazy ISGers). PM me for details on the girl, for she's a very pretty and spunky young girl who is worth the 200 rmb ST, but just beware, that's all. btw, she is a white tiger (or a shaved one...) hehe.
LSHR (丽城假日酒店）which is about 10 minutes from the train station. This is a 5 STAR hotel that is inside the YinXian （隐贤山莊）Resort area (more about this resort area in another post). The deluxe room in this hotel is 495RMB per night.
(it's too coincidental that all 5 of them had periods at the same time...) and cannot go out after KTV activities. One quirky thing about the room is that the toilet is located outside the KTV room which IMHO is not a very good idea as WGs can excuse themselves to the toilet and be gone for 10-15 minutes. We had some really nice looking and fun WGs in our room that night and had an excellent time.
We went to this KTV the night before the grand opening to the general public. The grand opening features a performance and guest appearance by a singer (don't know who).
JTraveler, Doublefly, some HK friends, and two young East coasters went and did a follow up party. The line up again featured a lot of girls who do not go out. Every lineup has like 3 or 4 who had their tags on the hip (meaning they don't go out). We went thorough 10 lineups (twice even) to find those willing to party in and out of the KTV.
The room was huge. No doubt, it's a nice KTV catering to those willing to spend. The girls look pretty good, lots of tall girls who look great in the evening gown. The kimonos were a good role play feature (I guess catering to those who like the Japanese look). I don't know about the no-bra inside thing, but one girl practically had her kimono falling off.
The girls were very fun. The party really started after the difficult searching, but I guess once everyone found his one or two sitting gals, then it really rocked.
There is a stage for performances which was pretty nice. Like a nice night club with state of the art lighting. Girls who weren't picked were sitting there and guys could go to them and chat with them.
Fun, but would be more fun if and when the girls remove the "don't go out" tag.
Getting back to the hotels in the main CP area was also a hassle. Since it's in a resort area, it's pretty secluded and there's no wandering cabs. There's a free shuttle that takes customers back. We didn't know so we walked out to where the private cars were. A cab came to drop off someone and we tried to get in, but got refused. It seems cabs can bring people in, but not allowed to pick up customers (don't know why). The private cars wanted 25 rmb to take us back to main CP. They said they had to pay a fee to the resort so they get exclusive rights to take customers. Thus, no cabs allowed to pick up people.
SE Asia Joe
04-09-10, 02:03
Good reminder.
.................... PM me for details on the girl, for she's a very pretty and spunky young girl who is worth the 200 rmb ST, but just beware, that's all. btw, she is a white tiger (or a shaved one...) hehe.
Decisions decisions decisions.
Damn Bruce, now you've got me in a real quandry.
A prettty and spunky WHITE TIGER.............. but a thief!
Should I or shouldn't I??
And is she shaved (YUCK and Double Yuck!) or a natural?
Yowich!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-09-10, 08:28
Went to the Yin Xian resort - (the "theme park" one and not the LaiSing resort hotel part) last week-end and found it very schlocky.
It tries to make it that it's all scenic and/or historical etc - but I just found it all old, dirty and sad. You pay a small entrance fee and as soon as you get in, you get accosted by all sorts of vendors and touts to pay RMB 10 -20 to go into various parts, arcade games, rides etc and its really irritating. It's not the money part - but that at just about every step, you get accosted and being sold on.
And the "Attractions" - old, dirty and tired. Paid the extra 20 RMB to go into their Zoo and it was bad... really bad, with a smattering of diseased, skin and bones animals, and filthy cages; went to their "show" (Hey - no charge here!!) and it was a troupe from some native area swallowing fire and abusing/exploiting minors by having - what 10, 11 year old - kids doing dangerous acrobatics; The rides - dirty, not maintained and probably unsafe kiddy rides; The scenery - the lake in the middle dried out and just a dust bowl now, the Buddha has got to be the ugliest Buddha I've seen, the Kwan Yin statue, you need to cross a gauntlet of photographers, incense and other junk seller,.... and get this - an old woman with a copper basin of dirty water insisting you should wash your hands and rub the "magic handles" to cause the water to "dance" (static electricity, if I remember my high school physics) and only for RMB 10!!!
But guess what??!!1 The 2 gals I was with thoroughly enjoyed themselves!! So, if you want an el-cheapo thing to do with your gal during the day - well, it's gonna be cheaper than if you took her to the Pozolim for a massage!!
SEAJ
Dongguan Doug
04-09-10, 10:58
Hello to all,
My name is Doug and I would like to introduce myself. I have been recently introduced to ISG by a friend and have spent hours and hours reading the forum – I am especially a fan of SE Asia Joe, Santa, and Asn Dragon. I have been to CP a dozen or so times over the last three years and have never been to a sauna there, only to the many establishments in proximity to the Yanlan Hotel.
Following the advice of many I decided to take a trip last night to CP and checked out the Versailles Hotel Sauna. I was shown a lineup of 8 girls, broken down into 2 categories, A and B. A were 368 and B were 468. Nothing too impressive with the lineup and I chose number 166. She did not make eye contact during the lineup and when I chose her tried to complain to the manager in hoping she wouldn't have to service me. She later explained to me it was because I was her first foreigner (she was probably lying).
Pretty standard package - shower, bj in shower, and fucked her a few times over the next two hours. She wasn't overly open and fun and time went by slowly.
When you pay 468 for a sauna I always feel as though it's hit and miss and this proved it to me once again. I've been to about a dozen or so saunas in Shanghai and the service quality in the 800 price range is always superb - you get what you pay for I guess.
After the sauna, took a trip to the night market and found it empty. I was very surprised considering it was 11:30pm. Then went to the shop across from the Yanlan to check out the merchandise and found three girls – one of them very attractive. It was late and I didn't have a hotel room so I decided to pass but will definitively be back.
DD
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Dongguan Doug
04-09-10, 11:09
FYI
Went to the Dongcheng International Hotel to check out their sauna last week and they told me they were closed for "renovations". This was confirmed to me in CP yesterday when I was told that many saunas in DG will be closed with crackdowns up to May 1st. I was also told that CP will be last place to close - there may or may not be any truth to this.
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-09-10, 11:30
Decisions decisions decisions.
Damn Bruce, now you've got me in a real quandry.
A prettty and spunky WHITE TIGER.............. but a thief!
Should I or shouldn't I??
And is she shaved (YUCK and Double Yuck!) or a natural?
Yowich!!
SEAJSEAJ,
Nothing wrong with shaved - better than the jungle on most current stock in China. Her stealing problems can easily be controlled by simply safeguarding your valuables but a good lay is hard to find. Definitively go for it.
DD
SE Asia Joe
04-09-10, 18:37
SEAJ,
Nothing wrong with shaved - better than the jungle on most current stock in China. Her stealing problems can easily be controlled by simply safeguarding your valuables but a good lay is hard to find. Definitively go for it.
DD
Welcome to ISG!!
Good Versailles sauna report - only am curious why you would chose that particular establishment for your "Virgin CP sauna" experience. I'd suggest that most CP regulars would put the Versailles sauna at near the bottom of the list but anyway........!
And on "nothing wrong with shaved" - NOW you're waving a red flag at me!! I HATE, ABHOR and will take all steps to avoid these plucked chickens. To the point that I've basically abandoned mongering in LOS and PI - as too many of the providers there have become these mutilated Barbie doillie wannabes. YUCK!! (but of course everybody have their own 'druthers!!)
And as for a good lay..... wellllll..... as many and as "economical" lays are in CP, just about anybody will sooner or later find their own li'l favorite!! But a NATURAL White Tiger who is also a good lay - well..... that's worth hunting for!! Thus my previous question.
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
04-10-10, 05:02
FYI
Went to the Dongcheng International Hotel to check out their sauna last week and they told me they were closed for "renovations". This was confirmed to me in CP yesterday when I was told that many saunas in DG will be closed with crackdowns up to May 1st. I was also told that CP will be last place to close - there may or may not be any truth to this.
DDto DD,
I was there last month they are open but service is cut way back no more 12 course service ,thing change fast in Dongguan and I heard sauna in CP is the same not many girl working too afraid of crack down ,go to Huizhou no crack down there yet have a great time there .
Fast eddie 48
Dongguan Doug
04-10-10, 11:08
to DD,
I was there last month they are open but service is cut way back no more 12 course service ,thing change fast in Dongguan and I heard sauna in CP is the same not many girl working too afraid of crack down ,go to Huizhou no crack down there yet have a great time there .
Fast eddie 48Thanks Fast Eddie. I live in Dongcheng and that sauna would just be so convenient if operating at full strength. I've read some very good things in this forum concerning the sauna at the Crown Prince Hotel in Huangjiang and it appears not to be too far from Dongcheng. I'm going to go there either tonight and tomorrow and give it a try and will report back later. I would rather take a trip to CP but going there just to go to the sauna doesn't make any sense - if I make the journey to CP I need to stay at least overnight and get at least 3 or 4 girls in (for the price of 1.5 sauna sessions). Different experience but equally or more enjoyable.
I was in Changping this week and stopped by a place across from the Yanlan to see what type of quality was available at 11:30pm. Usually at that time only the undesirables remain - I was shocked to see this very cute girl - she could not have been a day over 19. I may need to make the trip during the week to take care of that unfinished business.
DD
I have been to Dongguan twice and although I always considered myself fairly knowledgable and adventurous, I never knew there were as many places as I have read on this forum. LOL
During both trips, I frequented a place call "Gahh Wahh (cantonese pronunciation), " during that time they also had a sister place called "BOSC. " LOL. Now, with all the places mentioned here, I am sure these 2 were also reviewed, but I couldn't find any reviews? Am I spelling them incorrectly? If so, can someone point me in the right direction?
This was 3 years ago, and during that time, I was told Gahh Wahh was "THE BEST, THE HIGHEST QUALITY, THE HIGHEST QUANTITY, and of course The Most Expensive Place" in SE China.
My friends recently came back, and they too said, it was still "supposedly" the best place. But, I am starting to think, we were fooled.
Although, in all fairness to Gahh Wahh, there were literally hundreds of girls in their KTV.
Although, I have done alot of reading in ISG, I can seem to get confirmed recent information as to the existance of good topless KTV in SE China, can someone make some suggestions?
Can someone explain where Gahh Wahh fits into all these reviews?
I have been to Gah Wahh twice approx. 3 years ago, and for some reason it is not really reviewed here... During the time, it was considered the best in SE Asia... I recall staying at their sister hotel called BOSSEE.
Where can I find the best topless KTV in SE Asia?? Although, I have done alot of reading, it seems, that there have been reports of the gov't cleaning up dongguan... :(
SE Asia Joe
04-12-10, 07:52
I have been to Dongguan twice and although I always considered myself fairly knowledgable and adventurous, I never knew there were as many places as I have read on this forum. LOL
During both trips, I frequented a place call "Gahh Wahh (cantonese pronunciation), " during that time they also had a sister place called "BOSC. " LOL. Now, with all the places mentioned here, I am sure these 2 were also reviewed, but I couldn't find any reviews? Am I spelling them incorrectly? If so, can someone point me in the right direction?
This was 3 years ago, and during that time, I was told Gahh Wahh was "THE BEST, THE HIGHEST QUALITY, THE HIGHEST QUANTITY, and of course The Most Expensive Place" in SE China.
My friends recently came back, and they too said, it was still "supposedly" the best place. But, I am starting to think, we were fooled.
Although, in all fairness to Gahh Wahh, there were literally hundreds of girls in their KTV.
Although, I have done alot of reading in ISG, I can seem to get confirmed recent information as to the existance of good topless KTV in SE China, can someone make some suggestions?
Gah Wah is the Jiahua Grand hotel at Houjie, DGG - google it or better still RTFF!!
RTFF should also answer your question if it's the BEST, THE HIGHEST QUALITY (according to who? Does ANYBODY dare to/can make such a sweeping statement - for the whole of SE Asia!)
And as far as it being the most expensive in SE Asia - whoever made that statement must, I strongly suspect, not be used to going to expensive places!
SEAJ
SEAJoe,
Well while young lads like you have so much time on your hands to be romancing girls and taking them to these amusement parks to edge closer into capturing their hearts, old timers like us, avoid the whole amusement park at Li Cheng, and go straight to the KTVs, because people like us ain't getting any younger. So we gotta pack it all in as much as we can.
I saw the brochures that they had about their resort and it looked nice, until I saw the outside of the structure which seemed pretty old and dated as you had stated. But as long as the girls enjoyed it, it's all that matters right? Different strokes for different folks.
Besides, there's not that many different attractions in CP to go to. So anything new and fresh is worth trying out right?
AsnDragon
Went to the Yin Xian resort - (the "theme park" one and not the LaiSing resort hotel part) last week-end and found it very schlocky.
It tries to make it that it's all scenic and/or historical etc - but I just found it all old, dirty and sad. You pay a small entrance fee and as soon as you get in, you get accosted by all sorts of vendors and touts to pay RMB 10 -20 to go into various parts, arcade games, rides etc and its really irritating. It's not the money part - but that at just about every step, you get accosted and being sold on.
And the "Attractions" - old, dirty and tired. Paid the extra 20 RMB to go into their Zoo and it was bad... really bad, with a smattering of diseased, skin and bones animals, and filthy cages; went to their "show" (Hey - no charge here!!) and it was a troupe from some native area swallowing fire and abusing/exploiting minors by having - what 10, 11 year old - kids doing dangerous acrobatics; The rides - dirty, not maintained and probably unsafe kiddy rides; The scenery - the lake in the middle dried out and just a dust bowl now, the Buddha has got to be the ugliest Buddha I've seen, the Kwan Yin statue, you need to cross a gauntlet of photographers, incense and other junk seller,.... and get this - an old woman with a copper basin of dirty water insisting you should wash your hands and rub the "magic handles" to cause the water to "dance" (static electricity, if I remember my high school physics) and only for RMB 10!!!
But guess what??!!1 The 2 gals I was with thoroughly enjoyed themselves!! So, if you want an el-cheapo thing to do with your gal during the day - well, it's gonna be cheaper than if you took her to the Pozolim for a massage!!
SEAJ
Bruce,
So I see your girl all the time. Especially last night. I see her going into the internet cafe. I see her going into the same convenient store, and I see her walking on the street...a total of 3-4 times. In fact we bumped into each other so often than she said to me "hey, we keep bumping into each other, it must be fate."
Anyhow, she is definitely a bruce tea girl, except she's a bit taller than bruce's usual. She wears a hip hop outfit now, but before she was sporting a KTV uniform to to work. She's from Jiang Su, skinny, white smooth skin. FYI i haven't had her yet, but she is quite attractive. So perhaps her hottness distracted Bruce that day, which is understandable, sometimes I get thrown off when I meet someone hot.
but yeah, being cautious is very important.
AsnDragon
Good reminder.
The BBSs in CP have been pretty stocked these days. Lots of new talent and lots of gals of different types to appeal to many mongers. But stay aware and don't let your guard down.
I went with Santa to a BBS in Swan Lake. Santa found his SYT and asked me, "If I MUST pick a girl from the remaining lineup, who would I pick?" I chose, and lo and behold, she was in my arms walking back to the hotel with me. We did the fun and I quite enjoyed her. Now the boohoo part. She has no phone, no place to stay, blah blah and needed clothes, blah blah, and has no friends, blah blah...paid, and sent her on her way.
Two days later, found her again (specifically seek her out since she had no phone) and she came to my room with new clothes (wearing a hip hop new hat). Seems biz is good, eh? I showered by myself, and she playfully watched me. Then she playfully closed the bathroom door. Now, I've been going to CP for around 6 months, so I sensed something strange. Came out, played with her, did the deed and gave her 100 rmb and she left.
Now, looking at my pocket, I found 300 to 500 rmb missing. Also strange was my hung denim jeans was on the closet floor.
The closet was immediately in front of the bathroom door. So closed, she could've opened the closet door and got some bills out of my pocket. How did she know where I kept my money? Well, I paid her the first time I had her, so she knows exactly where my money was. She also begged an extra one hundred the first time I paid her and so she must've observed where I put my remaining money.
Lesson: Put all your money (and valuables, especially small items such as watches and good pens) in the SAFE. Leave only a few hundred rmbs to pay her and her cab ride back. Seems like a hassle, but little stuff like this happens.
Not mad at her or her BBS shop, but I am disappointed in myself for being careless. I had her around 5:00 pm so I had money in my pocket in preparation for a KTV night out (with Dave and AsnDragon and all those crazy ISGers). PM me for details on the girl, for she's a very pretty and spunky young girl who is worth the 200 rmb ST, but just beware, that's all. btw, she is a white tiger (or a shaved one...) hehe.
StinkyFeet
04-12-10, 11:25
This was 3 years ago, and during that time, I was told Gahh Wahh was "THE BEST, THE HIGHEST QUALITY, THE HIGHEST QUANTITY, and of course The Most Expensive Place" in SE China.
a lot of taiwanese trading companies use that ktv. not a bad thing though. the take out girls can be more expensive then other ktv's from my one and only experience (1300 rmb versus 800 rmb standard fare). saying that it is the most expensive... i don't know about that. i heard there are exclusive ktv's catering to the elite in shenzen where the girls are small time actresses or professional models, some sort of high initiation fee to gain access. does anyone know about this?
Hello to all,
My name is Doug ...She did not make eye contact during the lineup and when I chose her tried to complain to the manager in hoping she wouldn't have to service me. She later explained to me it was because I was her first foreigner (she was probably lying)....She wasn't overly open and fun and time went by slowly.
As I have learned from others, you should usually avoid picking girls that are avoiding eye contact, especially ones that come out and tell the manager that they do not want to go with you if you want good service. What ever the reason, they are obviously not comfortable with the situation and will not provide above average service unless you can put the effort in to change their minds quickly. But why would you want to waste your expensive sauna time doing that. For good service pick girls who are giving you the impression they want you to pick them. Try this and hopefully you'll get better service at every price point.
SE Asia Joe
04-12-10, 16:22
seajoe,
well while young lads like you have so much time on your hands to be romancing girls and taking them to these amusement parks to edge closer into capturing their hearts, old timers like us, avoid the whole amusement park at li cheng, and go straight to the ktvs, because people like us ain't getting any younger. so we gotta pack it all in as much as we can.
i saw the brochures that they had about their resort and it looked nice, until i saw the outside of the structure which seemed pretty old and dated as you had stated. but as long as the girls enjoyed it, it's all that matters right? different strokes for different folks.
besides, there's not that many different attractions in cp to go to. so anything new and fresh is worth trying out right?
asndragon
been thinking about this past few months.
we hit cp - and a lot of us go hog wild screwing as many suitable syt's as we can find and do it as many times as physically possible. i used to do this also, but then found myself getting bored (what??!!) on the third or fourth session of the day.
i mean, here i was, watching some hot li'l thing bobbing her head up and down giving li'l joe what li'l joe wants - but big joe was instead thinking about calling santa to get him out to shoot the breeze!! (what??!!)
and my skin - 4 gals, means at least 8 showers, never mind that some of these syt's - some of them require more attention than others and li'l joe does get pooped out and my back ends up all in a knot!
look-it, anything in excess is.... in excess and becomes more of a chore rather than the pleasure it's supposed to be - no? and that's why the footies and restaurants and......do such good business in cp.
and that's why nowadays i've slowed down quite a bit and prefer to hang out with a regular or another who i would do once or max twice a day - seems much more natural and certainly much more pleasurable.
or am i just getting old??
what??!!
seaj
seajoe,
you see, this is why i love writing to joe about certain things. we bring up the philosophical questions about mongering and the core male emotions that are involved with mongering.
how i see it is this. most brothers pack everything in because they travel a fair distance to get to cp to have fun, or they don't have many chances to party it down in cp that many times of the year. but for those people who live nearby, or in hong kong, it's only a train ride away. coming up once a week is no problem for hong kong guys so they have the luxury to take it easy.
what i notice is that hk mongers like to do more gfe and also take bbs girls overnight etc. because to the hk monger, they can always come up next week for the next chick on their list of "to do girls" but for guys who travel hours on an airplane, they want to maximize, and that's what cp is all about. cp is the one place where people come to forget about their problems. to live in a fantasy that they otherwise would never be able to indulge in in their native country. there are brothers who count the days until the can come to cp, penny pinching every cent or mao in their wallet when they are back home so that they can accumulate the money to splurge on marathon mongering sessions with girls of all shapes and sizes. let's face it, when we are back at home, we are cheap and frugal, but when we are in cp we spend like there's no tomorrow because it's the only paradise we can justify spending large amounts of money. (except seajoe, i hear he's quite frugal in china on non-girl related expenses...j/k) cp is the only place where you can be what you want to be and you can be your true self.
so...yes we should learn to enjoy the moment more than just trying to pack it in. but the problem is not really money, or self discipline, the biggest factor that every monger faces in cp is the problem with "time" we simply just don't have enough time. it's the one thing that you can't make more of unfortunately.
but i do agree, i find that enjoying the moments with a girl is more important than trying to pack 4 girls in one day. quality over quantity. we only wish we had that luxury as hk mongers have, to be able to cross the border into paradise by sitting on an hour and fifteen minute train ride.
asndragon
been thinking about this past few months.
we hit cp - and a lot of us go hog wild screwing as many suitable syt's as we can find and do it as many times as physically possible. i used to do this also, but then found myself getting bored (what??!!) on the third or fourth session of the day.
i mean, here i was, watching some hot li'l thing bobbing her head up and down giving li'l joe what li'l joe wants - but big joe was instead thinking about calling santa to get him out to shoot the breeze!! (what??!!)
and my skin - 4 gals, means at least 8 showers, never mind that some of these syt's - some of them require more attention than others and li'l joe does get pooped out and my back ends up all in a knot!
look-it, anything in excess is.... in excess and becomes more of a chore rather than the pleasure it's supposed to be - no? and that's why the footies and restaurants and......do such good business in cp.
and that's why nowadays i've slowed down quite a bit and prefer to hang out with a regular or another who i would do once or max twice a day - seems much more natural and certainly much more pleasurable.
or am i just getting old??
what??!!
seaj
AsnDragon, I couldn't agree with you more. I been there done that many times. But every trip its a rush rush rush job. Often I only get 1 or 2 days free to roam without coworkers so, time is very valuable. Then the mind set kicks in just like my friends, its more QTY over Quality. Don't get me wrong we look for quality, but I like to party with the girls as often as possible while I still can.
PS. I too think I am getting old. Noticing the lack of sleep really affecting how active I am the next day. Zombie mode is hardly an option now. Some days I prefer sleep over gfe...
But nevertheless, really looking forward to this trip. Haven't set foot in China since last July!!!! bags packed and ready! Just have to grind the canton fair! hopefully I don't have KTV duty this trip, having to drink with clients is a drag for me.
SEAJoe,
You see, this is why I love writing to Joe about certain things. We bring up the philosophical questions about mongering and the core male emotions that are involved with mongering.
How I see it is this. Most brothers pack everything in because they travel a fair distance to get to CP to have fun, or they don't have many chances to party it down in CP that many times of the year. But for those people who live nearby, or in Hong Kong, it's only a train ride away. Coming up once a week is no problem for Hong Kong Guys so they have the luxury to take it easy.
What i notice is that HK mongers like to do more GFE and also take BBS girls overnight etc. Because to the HK monger, they can always come up next week for the next chick on their list of "to do girls" But for guys who travel hours on an airplane, they want to maximize, and that's what CP is all about. CP is the one place where people come to forget about their problems. To live in a fantasy that they otherwise would never be able to indulge in in their native country. There are brothers who count the days until the can come to CP, penny pinching every cent or Mao in their wallet when they are back home so that they can accumulate the money to splurge on marathon mongering sessions with girls of all shapes and sizes. Let's face it, when we are back at home, we are cheap and frugal, but when we are in CP we spend like there's no tomorrow because it's the only paradise we can justify spending large amounts of money. (Except SEAJOE, i hear he's quite frugal in China on Non-girl related expenses...j/k) CP is the only place where you can be what you want to be and you can be your true self.
So...yes we should learn to enjoy the moment more than just trying to pack it in. But the problem is not really money, or self discipline, the biggest factor that every monger faces in CP is the problem with "time" We simply just don't have enough time. It's the one thing that you can't make more of unfortunately.
But I do agree, I find that enjoying the moments with a girl is more important than trying to pack 4 girls in one day. Quality over quantity. We only wish we had that luxury as HK mongers have, to be able to cross the border into paradise by sitting on an hour and fifteen minute train ride.
AsnDragon
Our crew always has a saying "rushing to relax. " I do want to enjoy my time in CP as I can only go once per year but I do find myself trying to fit in a lot during my time there. Thats why I sometimes will go KTV but not take anyone out. Then I can hit the sauna and after my time there, I can still take another one sometime later. While I agree that quality is more important than quantity, if you can't find quality you might as well get quantity.
Just curious, what do you guys look for in CP? Do you go with what you always look for or do you look for something totally different. My SO is tall and thin so I always look for more T and A when I'm in CP and many times end up with someone bigger than I normally would go for. I look upon CP as a buffet so I want to try all the dishes and not just my favorite one.
Unless you are a one minute wonder its all about service. That is why the interview is so important. When you pick one make sure she likes you and gives you attention. If it looks as if she is not interested give her the boot and pick another! Then try to negotiate whatever services you are looking for during your interview. You will find that you will be less disappointed if you follow these rules.
As I have learned from others, you should usually avoid picking girls that are avoiding eye contact, especially ones that come out and tell the manager that they do not want to go with you if you want good service. What ever the reason, they are obviously not comfortable with the situation and will not provide above average service unless you can put the effort in to change their minds quickly. But why would you want to waste your expensive sauna time doing that. For good service pick girls who are giving you the impression they want you to pick them. Try this and hopefully you'll get better service at every price point.
Gah Wah is the Jiahua Grand hotel at Houjie, DGG - google it or better still RTFF!!
RTFF should also answer your question if it's the BEST, THE HIGHEST QUALITY (according to who? Does ANYBODY dare to/can make such a sweeping statement - for the whole of SE Asia!)
And as far as it being the most expensive in SE Asia - whoever made that statement must, I strongly suspect, not be used to going to expensive places!
SEAJI apologize SEAJ if I came off as a newbie in my initial query post.
I have read many of your posts and it is obvious you are a well respected and generous contributor on this board.
I didn't mean to suggest Jiahua (initially, I couldn't google it, because I only knew it as Gahh Wahh) was the best, but I simply wanted to convey what I was told. It seems true though, that the knowledge shared on this board is much more reliable and complete than listening to rumors.
I am set for a trip in early May, and wanted to plan as much as possible for my week vacation in DGG, and I am trying to avoid going to JiaHua (only because, I have been there and done that). It would be my pleasure to perhaps get to know some of the veterans on this board (and maybe get some knowledge early on in my vacation) with perhaps a fun night with my crew and me in DG. Figure I would throw that out there. We are a group of 4 guys in our early 30's from NYC
From my readings, it seems Shenzhen & Zhuhai have really toned down due to alot of cleaning up. But the must do's are (in order of importance):
Chang Ping - Xiang Ying (翔盈国际酒店）KTV
Chang Ping - Virgin Sauna but AsnDragon says KTV is dying out
Chang Ping - Jun Hui (according to SEAJ)
Chang Ping - Lai Shing Holiday Resort (丽城假日酒店)KTV in YinXian （隐贤山莊）Resort area
Chang Ping - Euroasia KTV and Mayflower KTV (best in KTV in CP according to AsnDragon)
Chang Ping - Amazon naked-KTV in Versailles Hotel (end of swan lake road next to mayflower) (old but tolerable)
Chang Ping - Li Hao KTV
Chang Ping - BBS in Swan Lake, Jun Hui, and nightmarket (becareful)
Houjie or Chang Ping - Fuhao KTV (after googling not sure if it is in houjie though.. :()
Huangjiang - Prince Hotel Sauna
Chang An - Dongcheng int'l hotel in Dongcheng dist and Chang'An International Hotel Sauna (长安国际酒店) 5 star
Sorry for the delayed report. Went to HK for a few days(AsnDragon...you were right about it being waste of time) and Vietnam for a week.
CP withdrawal had already set in on the train ride out to HK.
Wanted to thank BS Dave for creating a fun atmosphere for everybody and including a couple of newbies. My friend and I really appreciated it.
Also great to meet ISG brothers Pointpanic, Bruce T, Santa, AsnDragon, Pat Canada, J Traveller, Cloudpalms. I apologize if I missed someone. Wanted to meet SEAJoe but unfortunately he couldn't make it up to CP during my time there. Maybe next time. Many thanks to everyone for their fun company and helpful advice. Special thanks to Pointpanic not only for the great advice but also for sharing some of your hilarious experiences.
Some of the memories that will stand out:
1) The fun girl from FuHao the first night who turned somewhat possessive the next two FuHao visits.
2) The first Flower Street experience at FuHao. Being a newbie, I walked thru with a smile platered on my face. Mommies spotted this and were pulling, grabbing me. 5 or 6 along with their girls surrounded me at one point...and I loved every minute of it!!!
3) The second FuHao girl who was so affectionate that I had her accompany me for a whole day. Exceptional service and a sweet girl. Will stay in contact with this one.
4) The moody girl from HuiMei that a few ISG bros had to speak to. She would be all over me one minute and completely distant the next. I think she was bipolar. Didn't take her out b/c of dead fish potential. Though I was tempted to...I love girls that have some feistiness to them.
5) The last girl from LiHao(a Sichuan cutie). I call her the smelly girl. I caught the first whiff during a dice game. BruceT was on the other side of her. Sorry Bruce, you're a great guy, but I was REALLY hoping that aroma was coming from you. I overlooked the odor b/c the girl was really affectionate and fun.
Maybe its b/c I'm a newbie, but my best experiences are at KTVs. I find that developing some type of connection makes the experiences more enjoyable for me. Of course, once in a while a BBS quickie is also needed.
6) My first BBS experience with a Xinjiang girl with Euro features. Had to try one. How many times in my life will I see a Xinjiang girl. Thanks to Santa, PointPanic and AsnDragon for leading us thru the maze of BBSs.
7) The memories of just hanging out with ISG bros and swapping stories.
Now that I've had a taste, I want more. Hope to be back in early Dec. Maybe will see some of the same ISG bros there and meet a few new ones.
ABC1000
SE Asia Joe
04-13-10, 05:38
SEAJoe,
You see, this is why I love writing to Joe about certain things. We bring up the philosophical questions about mongering and the core male emotions that are involved with mongering.
How I see it is this. Most brothers pack everything in because they travel a fair distance to get to CP to have fun, or they don't have many chances to party it down in CP that many times of the year. But for those people who live nearby, or in Hong Kong, it's only a train ride away. Coming up once a week is no problem for Hong Kong Guys so they have the luxury to take it easy.
What i notice is that HK mongers like to do more GFE and also take BBS girls overnight etc. Because to the HK monger, they can always come up next week for the next chick on their list of "to do girls" But for guys who travel hours on an airplane, they want to maximize, and that's what CP is all about. CP is the one place where people come to forget about their problems. To live in a fantasy that they otherwise would never be able to indulge in in their native country. There are brothers who count the days until the can come to CP, penny pinching every cent or Mao in their wallet when they are back home so that they can accumulate the money to splurge on marathon mongering sessions with girls of all shapes and sizes. Let's face it, when we are back at home, we are cheap and frugal, but when we are in CP we spend like there's no tomorrow because it's the only paradise we can justify spending large amounts of money. (Except SEAJOE, i hear he's quite frugal in China on Non-girl related expenses...j/k) CP is the only place where you can be what you want to be and you can be your true self.
So...yes we should learn to enjoy the moment more than just trying to pack it in. But the problem is not really money, or self discipline, the biggest factor that every monger faces in CP is the problem with "time" We simply just don't have enough time. It's the one thing that you can't make more of unfortunately.
But I do agree, I find that enjoying the moments with a girl is more important than trying to pack 4 girls in one day. Quality over quantity. We only wish we had that luxury as HK mongers have, to be able to cross the border into paradise by sitting on an hour and fifteen minute train ride.
AsnDragonYes, you old guys DO bring balance to these boards - for in reality, life's not just screw, fuck, suck and some more BBBJ's! Quality over quantity - and girls in CP, like my buddy Dar Tells me -it's like shooting fish in a barrel!!
But its precisely because it's so easy - to get girls in CP I mean - that guys loose sight of the fact that there's more to life than just the bestiality of the sex act Per Se! It's not only once that I have I heard girls being discussed in terms akin to weighing the pros and cons of a prized Hereford or Angus cow - and I can imagine what the actual sex act by these guys would be all about!!
Hey - ain't nothing wrong with all that and I certainly do NOT make any judgement at all - for after all, the guys come to town - and the gals too for that matter - for one thing: PAID SEX.
But for myself - and I think a lot of guys who do have the time too - it's a bit more than that. Speaking for myself, I do also enjoy the relationship aspect - and me-thinks the gals also enjoy this a bit better than just slam bam thank you mam. They are also human after all!!
At the other end of the spectrum though, is of course that some guys get in way over their head over the relationship aspect. They don't recognize that it IS after all a relationship based ALSO upon the give and take of material things - just with all the bells and jingles!!
My middle ground? Yes, I enjoy the feeling of romance, the falling in love aspect - but at the back of my mind - I always know when the line is gonna be crossed and safeguard myself against falling head over heel in love.
Just my POV as OAH would say!!
SEAJ
Greetings everybody! Tomorrow night I will be flying to canton and will be going straight to chanping Donguan. I wonder if virgin sauna is still open around 12 midnight? Any suggestions on where I can get the best experience because I will be only staying one night only and will be gone by morning.
Thank you
SE Asia Joe
04-13-10, 10:06
I apologize SEAJ if I came off as a newbie in my initial query post.
I have read many of your posts and it is obvious you are a well respected and generous contributor on this board.
I didn't mean to suggest Jiahua (initially, I couldn't google it, because I only knew it as Gahh Wahh) was the best, but I simply wanted to convey what I was told. It seems true though, that the knowledge shared on this board is much more reliable and complete than listening to rumors.
I am set for a trip in early May, and wanted to plan as much as possible for my week vacation in DGG, and I am trying to avoid going to JiaHua (only because, I have been there and done that). It would be my pleasure to perhaps get to know some of the veterans on this board (and maybe get some knowledge early on in my vacation) with perhaps a fun night with my crew and me in DG. Figure I would throw that out there. We are a group of 4 guys in our early 30's from NYC
From my readings, it seems Shenzhen & Zhuhai have really toned down due to alot of cleaning up. But the must do's are (in order of importance):
Chang Ping - Xiang Ying (翔盈国际酒店）KTV
Chang Ping - Virgin Sauna but AsnDragon says KTV is dying out
Chang Ping - Jun Hui (according to SEAJ)
Chang Ping - Lai Shing Holiday Resort (丽城假日酒店)KTV in YinXian （隐贤山莊）Resort area
Chang Ping - Euroasia KTV and Mayflower KTV (best in KTV in CP according to AsnDragon)
Chang Ping - Amazon naked-KTV in Versailles Hotel (end of swan lake road next to mayflower) (old but tolerable)
Chang Ping - Li Hao KTV
Chang Ping - BBS in Swan Lake, Jun Hui, and nightmarket (becareful)
Houjie or Chang Ping - Fuhao KTV (after googling not sure if it is in houjie though.. :()
Huangjiang - Prince Hotel Sauna
Chang An - Dongcheng int'l hotel in Dongcheng dist and Chang'An International Hotel Sauna (长安国际酒店) 5 star
Hey Super Lun:
Appreciate your explanation.
If I may make a suggestion - one thing that you and your crew gotta realize is that Dongguan is quite a large area and within DGG, there are quite a few towns/villages which are spread out all over. They may not seem to be far apart - especially when you apply USA standards of distance - but trust me, getting from one centre to another is quite time consuming and a costly endeavour (traffic and roads in China are horrible).
This being the case, I would suggest that you guys first make up your mind as to WHERE in Dongguan youy guys are gonna be "based" at. To a lot of mongers, Chang Ping is the ONLY logical choice as it is next to the train station (easy to get to other parts of China, Guangdong and Hong Kong), PLUS, the mongering locales are very concentrated; you can walk to most places - saunas, BBS's KTV's AND restaurants, footies etc.
Also, since CP IS monger central, hotels and restaurants etc do cater to our needs and druthers vs other townships where other "industries" also abound aplenty (I'd say that in the mongering areas of CP, such business probably comprise the majority of enterprise there; there ARE other industries in other parts of CP, but they'd not be of interest to us mongers).
From CP you could make your side trips to Houjie, Dongguan city, Chang An, all within an hour/RMB 150 whilst Dalang, Huangjiang, ZhangMouTou, Qiaotou etc are within 20 minutes/RMB 30 by cab/private cars.
Just IMHO
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-13-10, 10:28
But nevertheless, really looking forward to this trip. Haven't set foot in China since last July!!!! bags packed and ready! Just have to grind the canton fair! hopefully I don't have KTV duty this trip, having to drink with clients is a drag for me.
If I may.... I used to do quite a bit of "client entertainment" and whilst my experience had been in Hong Kong, I hope/believe that my experience (and what I found out from it) will equally apply for China.
I used to also "sweat it" when I had to do that - opting to only take them to grand and decent places like Gaddi's at the Peninsula, The Mandarin Grill, the various restaurants at the Grand Hyatt - like I said, the grander and nicer places. Until one night at the Grand Hyatt, one of my client asked about JJ's there (a "Hot" place and one of my usual haunts those days). Took these 3 guys, parked ourselves at my usual corner seating in front of the band and then a few of my regular friends (guys and gals) just hapened to show up. And these 3 guys really went to town and their "mongering proclivities" all came out in spades!!
We had a great time and I was free to do whatever I wanted/usually do when out partying WITH NO retributions - or even mention of such - the next day. In fact, business with these guys became all the much easier from that night onwards.
Took my cue from this experience and from then onwards, I'd be quite a bit more daring as to my "suggestions" as to where they'd like to be "entertained" at!!
Now, if your clients are already willing to go with you to a KTV, then I'd bet that they would be all open to party as hard as you would yourself want to!! All you'd need is to prod them a bit and if they are guys and not the holy holy type (doubt it - otherwise they'd never agree to go to a KTV in the first place!) and PRESTO - a great night on the town all at company expense!!
Just a suggestion/IMHO
SEAJ
My first time in CP. Got invited by my Chinese partner for some 'amazing fucking experience'. Found myself on the 4th floor of Peninsula Hotel (常平半岛酒店). Didn't want a girl, but the partner insisted.) He paid for the room, so I have no idea. The lineup of 5 was average. Picked the one who smiled. 400 rmb for 2 hours. Was OK, but did too much mouth washing and spitting.) Washed me well though. Later had dinner with the manager Apple who made some introduction about CP. Later went around town by myself, but no action as was tired. Next day had to return back to Shekou.
Looking forward to exploring it much more. Maybe hanging out together with some ISG guys after Canton Fair madness is over.
Thanks for this thread. Never imagined how much I missed during all these boring years in Shanghai.
Pointpanic
04-13-10, 13:19
Yes, you old guys DO bring balance to these boards - for in reality, life's not just screw, fuck, suck and some more BBBJ's! Quality over quantity - and girls in CP, like my buddy Dar Tells me -it's like shooting fish in a barrel!!
But its precisely because it's so easy - to get girls in CP I mean - that guys loose sight of the fact that there's more to life than just the bestiality of the sex act Per Se! It's not only once that I have I heard girls being discussed in terms akin to weighing the pros and cons of a prized Hereford or Angus cow - and I can imagine what the actual sex act by these guys would be all about!!
Hey - ain't nothing wrong with all that and I certainly do NOT make any judgement at all - for after all, the guys come to town - and the gals too for that matter - for one thing: PAID SEX.
But for myself - and I think a lot of guys who do have the time too - it's a bit more than that. Speaking for myself, I do also enjoy the relationship aspect - and me-thinks the gals also enjoy this a bit better than just slam bam thank you mam. They are also human after all!!
At the other end of the spectrum though, is of course that some guys get in way over their head over the relationship aspect. They don't recognize that it IS after all a relationship based ALSO upon the give and take of material things - just with all the bells and jingles!!
My middle ground? Yes, I enjoy the feeling of romance, the falling in love aspect - but at the back of my mind - I always know when the line is gonna be crossed and safeguard myself against falling head over heel in love.
Just my POV as OAH would say!!
SEAJ
Sounds like you guys are talking about me. Young SEAJoe knows me well enough that I would love to gfe no more than one a day but as old ASN Dragon knows when you pinch pennies and create elaborate schemes to travel 5000 miles, spend two weeks in China just to hang out in CP for 3-4 days its hard to resist 4 a day when you are confronted with a candy store of full of confections. Of course, the other half of it is to spend time with my good buddies there! (Comparing notes and photos.) Just wish I could be in Joe's shoes dabbling for weeks at a time avoiding the love bug. Otherwise, you have to pace yourself on longer hauls like Santa and limit yourself to 1 a day.
By the way Joe, our Fuhao heroine (Bill Lee episode) misses chatting with you. She says her technique has improved but she's leaving in a few weeks after 3 years to go to a real just singing KTV up near Shanghai. She hopes you will chat with her before she leaves. She counts you as a mentor and a real friend.
Point
Pointpanic
04-13-10, 13:31
Sorry for the delayed report. Went to HK for a few days(AsnDragon...you were right about it being waste of time) and Vietnam for a week.
CP withdrawal had already set in on the train ride out to HK.
Wanted to thank BS Dave for creating a fun atmosphere for everybody and including a couple of newbies. My friend and I really appreciated it.
Also great to meet ISG brothers Pointpanic, Bruce T, Santa, AsnDragon, Pat Canada, J Traveller, Cloudpalms. I apologize if I missed someone. Wanted to meet SEAJoe but unfortunately he couldn't make it up to CP during my time there. Maybe next time. Many thanks to everyone for their fun company and helpful advice. Special thanks to Pointpanic not only for the great advice but also for sharing some of your hilarious experiences.
Some of the memories that will stand out:
1) The fun girl from FuHao the first night who turned somewhat possessive the next two FuHao visits.
2) The first Flower Street experience at FuHao. Being a newbie, I walked thru with a smile platered on my face. Mommies spotted this and were pulling, grabbing me. 5 or 6 along with their girls surrounded me at one point...and I loved every minute of it!!!
3) The second FuHao girl who was so affectionate that I had her accompany me for a whole day. Exceptional service and a sweet girl. Will stay in contact with this one.
4) The moody girl from HuiMei that a few ISG bros had to speak to. She would be all over me one minute and completely distant the next. I think she was bipolar. Didn't take her out b/c of dead fish potential. Though I was tempted to...I love girls that have some feistiness to them.
5) The last girl from LiHao(a Sichuan cutie). I call her the smelly girl. I caught the first whiff during a dice game. BruceT was on the other side of her. Sorry Bruce, you're a great guy, but I was REALLY hoping that aroma was coming from you. I overlooked the odor b/c the girl was really affectionate and fun.
Maybe its b/c I'm a newbie, but my best experiences are at KTVs. I find that developing some type of connection makes the experiences more enjoyable for me. Of course, once in a while a BBS quickie is also needed.
6) My first BBS experience with a Xinjiang girl with Euro features. Had to try one. How many times in my life will I see a Xinjiang girl. Thanks to Santa, PointPanic and AsnDragon for leading us thru the maze of BBSs.
7) The memories of just hanging out with ISG bros and swapping stories.
Now that I've had a taste, I want more. Hope to be back in early Dec. Maybe will see some of the same ISG bros there and meet a few new ones.
ABC1000
Glad to see your nice report. I was just about to have BSD remind you. It was great to meet both of you and reminence what its like to be a newbie. Glad you guys had a great time and wasn't our advice accurate? I'll try to remember to send you a pic of your 2nd Fuhao girl if you send me a real off site email address. I think you have mine or BSD or Santa can give it to you. Of course, you could be come a senior member.
Hope to see you in December if I can get out that way then.
Point
BBS are a-boomin in CP. However, a few things to remind those who are going to CP for the upcoming Canton Fair, etc.
Don't go too early. 2:00 to 2:30 they're still usually on the way or getting ready. Go at 2:30 to 3:30 for prime pickings. Bad luck by me, but going to Jojo's too early or too late got me choices of one or two girls. First time I've seen so few there.
That Yalan BBS in one of the alleys and is close to the outside billiards table where local guys play pool. OK, the mommy I recognize and I've been quite satisfied with her girls, but her recent location is just not that great to go to if you look too "foreign." We went with a group of 5 and of course, the mentality is "What are they gonna do, we have 5 guys in our group." I'm not too enthused by this loosening of our guard, but a reminder for all to DO be low-profiled. We did come out with girls in our arms, and of course, the locals shooting pool stared at us the whole time. It was bright daylight, so I guess that's one of the reasons to go BBS viewing in the afternoon.
And again, don't follow touts or mommies you do not recognize.
Pretty good finds. One brother got a BBS girl who he took to the KTV at night, took to midnight snack, let her stay until her mommy started calling her to go work the next afternoon. That's a good 20 hours of companionship, which is rare, and most definitely depend on the connection between the guy and the girl, but still, it's re-affirmation that if you treat the gal with respect and consideration, she'll give you a bit more of her time. But again, that may be rare, as a lot of BBS girls do have boyfriends and would make excuses to leave around 2 am or so.
Glad to see your nice report. I was just about to have BSD remind you. It was great to meet both of you and reminence what its like to be a newbie. Glad you guys had a great time and wasn't our advice accurate? I'll try to remember to send you a pic of your 2nd Fuhao girl if you send me a real off site email address. I think you have mine or BSD or Santa can give it to you. Of course, you could be come a senior member.
Hope to see you in December if I can get out that way then.
PointYour advice was accurate alright. Too bad we did not always put it to immediate use. For example, wading thru lineup after lineup without picking a girl, hoping that the next one will bring something better. Before you know it, only the leftovers remain.
My advice to newbies. ALWAYS listen to the senior members. The knowledge they provide is invaluable.
Big Swingin Dave
04-14-10, 03:32
Greetings everybody! Tomorrow night I will be flying to canton and will be going straight to chanping Donguan. I wonder if virgin sauna is still open around 12 midnight? Any suggestions on where I can get the best experience because I will be only staying one night only and will be gone by morning.
Thank you
Virgin Sauna will take customer as late as 2am, girls are not too happy at that time as they now have to work til 4am but that's their problem...
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
04-14-10, 03:36
The Canton Fair will happen in 3 phases:
Phase One: 15th-19th April
Phase Two: 23rd-27th April
Phase Three: 1st- 5th May
The rooms in CP especially on Friday and Saturday nights will be fully booked. I am trying to make reservations this weekend and I am having a hell of a time finding available rooms so if you are planning to come to CP from now through May 5th, please make your reservations early, especially if you require a Friday or Saturday night stay.
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
04-14-10, 16:47
Got notice from my booking manager at the Manhattan KTV that they now have a group of models and a group of girls that will strip in the room. Both groups will be 3-6-10. 80% of the WGs remain at 2-5-8.
Business is very good in CP right now through second week of May so plan your trip to CP in advance.
BSD
Jettsetter
04-14-10, 19:48
So...yes we should learn to enjoy the moment more than just trying to pack it in. But the problem is not really money, or self discipline, the biggest factor that every monger faces in CP is the problem with "time" We simply just don't have enough time. It's the one thing that you can't make more of unfortunately.
AsnDragon
Well, I have to add to that.. it's not always about "time" as it is about "bullets" too! haha...
I've heard many complain that perhaps on day 4 or 5... while we have the time, and the mao's to partake, we simply don't have the bullets, minerals, aka, leche (as I learned in Argentina)..
-J
SE Asia Joe
04-15-10, 04:02
Well, I have to add to that.. it's not always about "time" as it is about "bullets" too! haha...
I've heard many complain that perhaps on day 4 or 5... while we have the time, and the mao's to partake, we simply don't have the bullets, minerals, aka, leche (as I learned in Argentina)..
-J
Harrumph..... just leche??
Howzabout teeth marks, friction burns.... and limp biskitz??!!
SEAJ
Mit Fo Lfe
04-15-10, 04:07
Harrumph..... just leche??
Howzabout teeth marks, friction burns.... and limp biskitz??!!
SEAJYou know very well that limp biskitz can be cured by the all mighty Vitamin C!
StinkyFeet
04-15-10, 06:27
Well, I have to add to that.. it's not always about "time" as it is about "bullets" too! haha...
two words~~~~~~~
TANTRIC SEX
it works. my problem has always been the time.
StinkyFeet
04-15-10, 06:31
and limp biskitz??!!
i hate that. expecially when your operating on 3 hours a sleep for 3 weeks (working then partying, working and sauna, working and long unnecessary long dinners with factory boss drinking bijou then coming home feeling like crap and decide to call the biz card handed out to you by some suspicious guy in a suit wearing pu shoes , rinse and repeat)
Dongguan Doug
04-15-10, 06:34
I am set for a trip in early May, and wanted to plan as much as possible for my week vacation in DGG, and I am trying to avoid going to JiaHua (only because, I have been there and done that). It would be my pleasure to perhaps get to know some of the veterans on this board (and maybe get some knowledge early on in my vacation) with perhaps a fun night with my crew and me in DG. Figure I would throw that out there. We are a group of 4 guys in our early 30's from NYC
From my readings, it seems Shenzhen & Zhuhai have really toned down due to alot of cleaning up. But the must do's are (in order of importance):
Chang Ping - Xiang Ying (翔盈国际酒店）KTV
Chang Ping - Virgin Sauna but AsnDragon says KTV is dying out
Chang Ping - Jun Hui (according to SEAJ)
Chang Ping - Lai Shing Holiday Resort (丽城假日酒店)KTV in YinXian （隐贤山莊）Resort area
Chang Ping - Euroasia KTV and Mayflower KTV (best in KTV in CP according to AsnDragon)
Chang Ping - Amazon naked-KTV in Versailles Hotel (end of swan lake road next to mayflower) (old but tolerable)
Chang Ping - Li Hao KTV
Chang Ping - BBS in Swan Lake, Jun Hui, and nightmarket (becareful)
Houjie or Chang Ping - Fuhao KTV (after googling not sure if it is in houjie though.. :()
Huangjiang - Prince Hotel Sauna
Chang An - Dongcheng int'l hotel in Dongcheng dist and Chang'An International Hotel Sauna (长安国际酒店) 5 starHi Super Lun,
I would love to get meet up and do some partying with you and your boys in early May. I am based in DG (Dongcheng). In terms of the The Dongcheng International Hotel, the sauna is closed and under renovations. I went to the sauna at the Waterfall Garden Hotel in Dongcheng last night and highly recommend it. I will completed a detailed posting on this later. PM me if you want to meet up with me and a couple of my boys and we'll get a whole crew out.
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-15-10, 06:38
Hey Super Lun:
Appreciate your explanation.
If I may make a suggestion - one thing that you and your crew gotta realize is that Dongguan is quite a large area and within DGG, there are quite a few towns/villages which are spread out all over. They may not seem to be far apart - especially when you apply USA standards of distance - but trust me, getting from one centre to another is quite time consuming and a costly endeavour (traffic and roads in China are horrible).
This being the case, I would suggest that you guys first make up your mind as to WHERE in Dongguan youy guys are gonna be "based" at. To a lot of mongers, Chang Ping is the ONLY logical choice as it is next to the train station (easy to get to other parts of China, Guangdong and Hong Kong), PLUS, the mongering locales are very concentrated; you can walk to most places - saunas, BBS's KTV's AND restaurants, footies etc.
Also, since CP IS monger central, hotels and restaurants etc do cater to our needs and druthers vs other townships where other "industries" also abound aplenty (I'd say that in the mongering areas of CP, such business probably comprise the majority of enterprise there; there ARE other industries in other parts of CP, but they'd not be of interest to us mongers).
From CP you could make your side trips to Houjie, Dongguan city, Chang An, all within an hour/RMB 150 whilst Dalang, Huangjiang, ZhangMouTou, Qiaotou etc are within 20 minutes/RMB 30 by cab/private cars.
Just IMHO
SEAJHey Super Lun,
I totally agree with SEAJ. I would be based in Changping if I were you and make my way around from there. Everything that you might really need is there, and having been to most other places in DG at one point or another, nothing really compares like CP. The place is the best hands down and offers everything you might want to partake in (KTV, BBS, etc.)
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-15-10, 06:55
Yes, you old guys DO bring balance to these boards. For in reality, life's not just screw, fuck, suck and some more BBBJ's! Quality over quantity. And girls in CP, like my buddy Dar Tells me.it's like shooting fish in a barrel!
But its precisely because it's so easy. To get girls in CP I mean. That guys loose sight of the fact that there's more to life than just the bestiality of the sex act Per Se! It's not only once that I have I heard girls being discussed in terms akin to weighing the pros and cons of a prized Hereford or Angus cow. And I can imagine what the actual sex act by these guys would be all about!
Hey. Ain't nothing wrong with all that and I certainly do NOT make any judgement at all. For after all, the guys come to town. And the gals too for that matter. For one thing: PAID SEX.
But for myself. And I think a lot of guys who do have the time too. It's a bit more than that. Speaking for myself, I do also enjoy the relationship aspect. And me-thinks the gals also enjoy this a bit better than just slam bam thank you mam. They are also human after all!
At the other end of the spectrum though, is of course that some guys get in way over their head over the relationship aspect. They don't recognize that it IS after all a relationship based ALSO upon the give and take of material things. Just with all the bells and jingles!
My middle ground? Yes, I enjoy the feeling of romance, the falling in love aspect. But at the back of my mind. I always know when the line is going to be crossed and safeguard myself against falling head over heel in love.
Just my POV as OAH would say!
SEAJI'm a little conflicted with this one. As you said, I'm not sure whether it's the actual sex act which is of most interest to me, considering it is so easy in CP. I personally enjoy the process of going to many places, surveying the merchandise, and get the most satisfaction after going to 2-3 BBS and finding that diamond in the rough whom I think is so beautiful and that special. Those are a rare thing and I can still remember those in my mind even now.
There are just so many girls, and even though I live only 30 minutes away and can make my way there anytime really, I tend to get at least 4 different girls every time I go. Even if only for an afternoon.
Contrary to most people, I have done the KTV thing and don't really enjoy it that much. I have never really developed a type of relationship with a girl there that made the sex when I took her home later that night much more enjoyable. I think it is possible to develop that relationship in 10 minutes while we walk from the BBS back to my hotel. By that time, I've made a few jokes and the girls are ready to go. The KTV experience is time consuming, costly, and the payoff isn't that great for. This is of course only my opinion and maybe if I experience the KTV with some of you my opinions may change.
In terms of the developing a "relationship" with the girl, as opposed to just taking her back to your hotel, fucking the shit out of her, and sending her on her way (the "screw, fuck, suck and some more BBBJ's" way of doing things), I'm always worried about the possibility of falling for her. The girls are paid to spend time with you, fuck you, and be pleasant while doing it. It's in their best interest in doing so, and therefor I find it someone disingenuine. I have fallen for a few of these girls over the years and rationalize it in mt head how I could maybe be in a relationship with them. It's not healthy and beyond crazy. So I find it best to just fuck and leave it at that.
Just IMHO.
DD
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Dongguan Doug
04-15-10, 07:05
BBS are a-boomin in CP. However, a few things to remind those who are going to CP for the upcoming Canton Fair, etc.
Don't go too early. 2:00 to 2:30 they're still usually on the way or getting ready. Go at 2:30 to 3:30 for prime pickings. Bad luck by me, but going to Jojo's too early or too late got me choices of one or two girls. First time I've seen so few there.
That Yalan BBS in one of the alleys and is close to the outside billiards table where local guys play pool. OK, the mommy I recognize and I've been quite satisfied with her girls, but her recent location is just not that great to go to if you look too "foreign. " We went with a group of 5 and of course, the mentality is "What are they going to do, we have 5 guys in our group. " I'm not too enthused by this loosening of our guard, but a reminder for all to DO be low-profiled. We did come out with girls in our arms, and of course, the locals shooting pool stared at us the whole time. It was bright daylight, so I guess that's one of the reasons to go BBS viewing in the afternoon.Also, I would recommend going Monday through Thursday. Friday, Saturday and Sunday are such a zoo with the HK crowd making their way through. I'm not sure how it's going to be during the Canton Fair and whether weekdays will be very busy as well.
DD
Wickedsmahtkris
04-15-10, 07:36
Gents,
Over Christmas Holiday, I spent some amazing time at Royal Garden Sauna with a fine young thing who gave me two delightful hours in heaven. My own version of a "Kris-mas" bonus!
I was looking forward to my return visit in late Feb. Much to my profound disappointment, I found that LE had shut it down for some time. The worker out front told me "maybe next wk", but it was clear things were in lockdown mode. Any word on what's up?
Anyway, back to the hotel with mucho disappointmento, but I did manage to hit up a bellman who had something working on the side. I got a gal in the room for about the same price as the sauna, but it just wasn't the same. Took me a third try til he finally got it right, and the quality wasn't the same as I got from the lineup at Christmas.
Anyone else know what's up these days at Royal Garden?
Kris
Dongguan Doug
04-15-10, 09:34
Went out last night in Dongcheng and, after having a few drinks, made my way to the sauna at the Cosmos International Business Hotel. Once in the hotel, the sauna is on the 5th floor. It was my first time there but this place was highly recommended from a colleague of mine. After waiting 5 minutes in the lobby area while they asked me whether I had reserved a room (I hadn't and there is no need to on a Wednesday night at midnight), I was led to a very large hotel room where the lineups were to begin shortly. I was showed four lineups of 5 or so girls each, ranging from 500 to 800. I was not very impressed with the quality and decided to pass. The manager recommended that I try a different sauna down the street and called the manager of that sauna to arrange the lineup. The manager guaranteed that this other sauna had many more girls available.
I walked down the street about 10 minutes and arrived at the Waterfall Garden Hotel. This place was much nicer than the Cosmos hotel and the manager was waiting for me in the lobby. We proceeded to the sauna, and I was led to a much nicer hotel room. I would say that this hotel room would qualify as a 4 star hotel in NA/Europe. The first lineup of girls was brought in and I was not impressed. The second lineup was very different. There were a few tender beauties and I chose number 268. Wow. She was so hot. After the shower, where she blew me until I came in her mouth, we proceeded to fuck for a good 30 minutes non stop. She was incredible – I dare say the best I've ever had in China. She was into everything and a real beauty. The damage was 600 plus 150 for the room. I can't emphasize enough how incredible this place really was. I might have been lucky with this girl, but after having my last 3 or 4 sauna experiences over the last month be unsatisfactory, it was nice to finally have an experience the way it should be. I got the girls number and will try to see if she would be willing to come to my place instead of me meeting her at the sauna (I would pay her more than she gets from the sauna but less than what I pay her at the sauna). I doubt she will agree though. If she doesn't agree, I will have to go back and fuck her at least once more at the sauna. I need to have a bad experience to get this girl out of my head – she's all of I've been thinking about all day today.
I highly recommend the Waterfall Garden Hotel in Dongcheng. PM me anytime for exact address and manager's contact info if required.
DD
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Just in case anyone one is wondering about all the pirate WII games, that certainly we all see while we are recharging ourselves in the morning. I bought about 30-40 of them, for just 4 RMB. So the total cost was about the same as one game in USA.
Bought a new WII in the USA. The new Wii's can not be HW mod'd directly by adding a mod-chip added because the HW removes the hook needed by the mod-chip. Therefore, you must replace the drive with an older version and then add the mod chip, or if you are daring, go the soft mod route. I bought a pre-modded replacement drive from that Australian wii-mod supplier company and just replaced my current drive. Also, even with this, the new SW on WII will only let region 1 disks load. But again, there is an easy workaround.
- so far all the games have worked flawlessly. Some:
. Worked normally. As were ntsc region 1 disks.
. Some didn't show up in the disc channel on the WII, and they just
Needed to be simply loaded with gecko os which in turn is loaded with the
Homebrew channel. This is because they were not region 1 disks.
Some were not region 1 discs and also not even NTSC. For these, again
Use gecko OS, but had to set the configuration to FORCE NTSC on.
A few more thoughts, BS Dave reommends shipping the disks home to a fake name, because if you are the one in a million they decide to inspect you will be hit with huge fines taking them through HK to get to the airport. I suppose all you have to do is to take the ferry to bypass HK customs? But I just took the van over the boarder, and like always, they didn't even come close to inspecting or caring. You need to judge your own risk level. Likewise when entering the USA.
So I learned a new word today. You guys know how we call all the new guys "newbies?" Well, in Mandarin, the word niu4 bi1, which sounds very similar to newbie, means just the opposite. It means something like "awesome," similar to "li4 hai4."
SE Asia Joe
04-16-10, 08:35
two words~~~~~~~
TANTRIC SEX
it works. my problem has always been the time.
Tantric Sex???
Sounds more like wasting money to me!!
Oooopss... sorry.... just my POV
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-16-10, 12:53
I'm a little conflicted with this one. As you said, I'm not sure whether it's the actual sex act which is of most interest to me, considering it is so easy in CP. I personally enjoy the process of going to many places, surveying the merchandise, and get the most satisfaction after going to 2-3 BBS and finding that diamond in the rough whom I think is so beautiful and that special. Those are a rare thing and I can still remember those in my mind even now.
There are just so many girls, and even though I live only 30 minutes away and can make my way there anytime really, I tend to get at least 4 different girls every time I go. Even if only for an afternoon.
Contrary to most people, I have done the KTV thing and don't really enjoy it that much. I have never really developed a type of relationship with a girl there that made the sex when I took her home later that night much more enjoyable. I think it is possible to develop that relationship in 10 minutes while we walk from the BBS back to my hotel. By that time, I've made a few jokes and the girls are ready to go. The KTV experience is time consuming, costly, and the payoff isn't that great for. This is of course only my opinion and maybe if I experience the KTV with some of you my opinions may change.
In terms of the developing a "relationship" with the girl, as opposed to just taking her back to your hotel, fucking the shit out of her, and sending her on her way (the "screw, fuck, suck and some more BBBJ's" way of doing things), I'm always worried about the possibility of falling for her. The girls are paid to spend time with you, fuck you, and be pleasant while doing it. It's in their best interest in doing so, and therefor I find it someone disingenuine. I have fallen for a few of these girls over the years and rationalize it in mt head how I could maybe be in a relationship with them. It's not healthy and beyond crazy. So I find it best to just fuck and leave it at that.
Just IMHO.
DD
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Well, it IS different strokes for different folks after all!!
For me, its the "connection" with the gal that makes all the difference in the actual act of sex. And the funny thing is that I can never be sure if I'm gonna have such connection or not until such time that I'm actually doing the deed!
No amount of time or conversation or the various "tests' that different mongers have told me to try out ever works in pinning down a girl I'm gonna have a "connection" with prior to the actual doing it!!
And that's why I most times prefer the BBS gals rather than a KTV one. It's not only the money - but more so, it's the time involved and the drinking and the staying out until all hours of the night ..... which just contributes to generally fatigue and/or sometimes "dead dick" syndrome (so drunk that my dick is insensitive/cannot come - or so drunk that I actually cannot get it up for long!!). BBS gal - pick 'em, bring 'em back and if no good, throw her out and get another one all within an hour or less!!
KTV.... well, I on the other hand do enjoy going to KTV's for the rowdiness, the hanging out with the guys, for the stoooopid singing, the stooopider still games; just for a nice night out. But definitely NOT in the expectations of hooking with my soul mate!! Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't - but no big deal
Just IMHO
SEAJ
Harrison F
04-16-10, 13:08
To all the knowledgeable ones, are there any exhibitions or fairs of any sort in the region.
I would like to visit and I need an excuse for my boss to travel.
And that's why I most times prefer the BBS gals rather than a KTV one. It's not only the money - but more so, it's the time involved and the drinking and the staying out until all hours of the night ..... which just contributes to generally fatigue and/or sometimes "dead dick" syndrome (so drunk that my dick is insensitive/cannot come - or so drunk that I actually cannot get it up for long!!). BBS gal - pick 'em, bring 'em back and if no good, throw her out and get another one all within an hour or less!!
Just IMHO
SEAJ
I'm probably the opposite. I see the whole thing as being a bit debauched and unless I'm a bit drunk, I see too much sadness in the whole affair, both for myself and the girl. That's why I rarely get girls in the daytime. That's not saying I won't do it. It's just that I'm usually not in the mood unless I get a couple drinks in me. That's probably why I also tell the girls to get the fuck out as soon as I'm done. I don't need reminders of the sadness of her life and stuff. As for doing it while drunk... what's what Cialis is for...
SE Asia Joe
04-16-10, 17:16
I'm probably the opposite. I see the whole thing as being a bit debauched and unless I'm a bit drunk, I see too much sadness in the whole affair, both for myself and the girl. That's why I rarely get girls in the daytime. That's not saying I won't do it. It's just that I'm usually not in the mood unless I get a couple drinks in me. That's probably why I also tell the girls to get the fuck out as soon as I'm done. I don't need reminders of the sadness of her life and stuff. As for doing it while drunk... what's what Cialis is for...
Whoa!!!! I hope that you're just yanking my chain/being facetious!
Coz otherwise, that's kinda sad.
SEAJ
Whoa!!!! I hope that you're just yanking my chain/being facetious!
Coz otherwise, that's kinda sad.
SEAJ
Oh I have a lot of fun with the girls and stuff. At KTV, I'll be the first one to start in on the girls. Deep down though, I do recognize the whole affair is a something that's really contrived and that there is a lot of mendacity in the whole thing. It's ok though, it's still fun. What I really don't like though, if for any of the girls to tell me about their lives. Usually, it's something really sad. It's rare to find someone who's doing it for any other reason than financial need, and I really don't enjoy hearing about having to support the brother in college, or the mother needing some treatment at the hospital, or she needs to buy an apartment, or whatever. To be honest, I really don't care and if I did, it would only make me sadder. The Cialis thing though, was a joke. I've only taken it once in my life, but I do believe it works.
And that's why I most times prefer the BBS gals rather than a KTV one. It's not only the money - but more so, it's the time involved and the drinking and the staying out until all hours of the night .....
There's only so much u can do at night. Footie...and then...probably nothing.
In the day, you can shop, footie, sleep, go BBS hunting, read a book, shoot the shit with ISGers, go hunting for freebies, etc.
At night? If you don't do KTVs, I guess you can watch TV or go to bed early.
Getting BBS girls at night will just get you sloppy 4ths or something like that. And night market, well, if you also don't mind a quickie with minimal chit-chat (or even a goodbye hug).
Case in point: desperate for a gal at 1 am, we went to the night market. Found a gal and I enjoyed the deed with her. Later found out that Santa did the same girl minutes before I found her. Also later found out that after me, she immediately got a next customer.
Nights are when most of them work. So why not work them at the KTV and then have the option of having her again in the morning or kicking her out so you can sleep by yourself?
I agree somewhat that KTV gals are somewhat similar to BBS gals, but I guess it's the fact that if you got better things to do at night, BBS is the best option. If you got nothing better to do, KTV is a great way to have fun and why not pick a girl who can drink, play, chat up? I've never got a BBS gal in the afternoon and kept her until the night. I tried that once (with you, SEAJ) but after the deed, she basically found excuses to be let go. Never took a BBS gal to a KTV. Seen guys do it tho, but I don't think I could pull it off. How do u guys do it??
Oh I have a lot of fun with the girls and stuff. At KTV, I'll be the first one to start in on the girls. Deep down though, I do recognize the whole affair is a something that's really contrived and that there is a lot of mendacity in the whole thing. It's ok though, it's still fun. What I really don't like though, if for any of the girls to tell me about their lives. Usually, it's something really sad. It's rare to find someone who's doing it for any other reason than financial need, and I really don't enjoy hearing about having to support the brother in college, or the mother needing some treatment at the hospital, or she needs to buy an apartment, or whatever.
You need some smelly cheese with that wine.
Just tell her that you have to pay alimony to two wives and have to support 5 stupid, fat, medically ridden children. Every business you've done is a failure and you are not allowed back into 4 Asian countries. Your visa to China is almost expired, so you need to desperately find a wife to marry and use her ID to start up a business you have in mind. Pester her about where she keeps her real ID card. Oh, and tell her about your heart, liver, lung, and nerve problems.
You need some smelly cheese with that wine.
Just tell her that you have to pay alimony to two wives and have to support 5 stupid, fat, medically ridden children. Every business you've done is a failure and you are not allowed back into 4 Asian countries. Your visa to China is almost expired, so you need to desperately find a wife to marry and use her ID to start up a business you have in mind. Pester her about where she keeps her real ID card. Oh, and tell her about your heart, liver, lung, and nerve problems.
If I have to go through all that, then she has to pay me. ;)
Never took a BBS gal to a KTV. Seen guys do it tho, but I don't think I could pull it off. How do u guys do it??
Tell her you'll give her more money.
I've been lurking these forums for quite a while now and I've never felt the need to create an account till now.
For real, what is it with you guys calling people newbies? To those of you who like to call people noobs and think of yourself as seasoned vets please, GROW A BRAIN. How arrogant and ignorant can you get. You guys need to get that pickle outta your ass and stop acting like a bunch of high school girls talking crap about the new guy, its GAY.
So what if its someone's first time? BIG DEAL. We were all there at one point, no need to make others feel bad because they don't know the ropes, you people are all full grown men, act like it.
So I learned a new word today. You guys know how we call all the new guys "newbies?" Well, in Mandarin, the word niu4 bi1, which sounds very similar to newbie, means just the opposite. It means something like "awesome," similar to "li4 hai4."
SE Asia Joe
04-17-10, 05:46
I've been lurking these forums for quite a while now and I've never felt the need to create an account till now.
For real, what is it with you guys calling people newbies? To those of you who like to call people noobs and think of yourself as seasoned vets please, GROW A BRAIN. How arrogant and ignorant can you get. You guys need to get that pickle outta your ass and stop acting like a bunch of high school girls talking crap about the new guy, its GAY.
So what if its someone's first time? BIG DEAL. We were all there at one point, no need to make others feel bad because they don't know the ropes, you people are all full grown men, act like it.
You don't like the term Newbies huh?
Howzabout one just for you - IDIOT.
Believe that fits you better - right?
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-17-10, 06:04
To all the knowledgeable ones, are there any exhibitions or fairs of any sort in the region.
I would like to visit and I need an excuse for my boss to travel.
You're kidding right?
Do you ever RTFF? Even a page back BS Dave posted
"....The Canton Fair will happen in 3 phases:
Phase One: 15th-19th April
Phase Two: 23rd-27th April
Phase Three: 1st- 5th May...."
And there's ALWAYS some trade show or exhibition going on in the various convention/exhibiton centres in Shenzhen, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, even Macau! All you'd need to do is google and you'll find an exhibition tailor made to your needs.
SEAJ
Dongguan Doug
04-17-10, 07:30
I'm probably the opposite. I see the whole thing as being a bit debauched and unless I'm a bit drunk, I see too much sadness in the whole affair, both for myself and the girl. That's why I rarely get girls in the daytime. That's not saying I won't do it. It's just that I'm usually not in the mood unless I get a couple drinks in me. That's probably why I also tell the girls to get the fuck out as soon as I'm done. I don't need reminders of the sadness of her life and stuff. As for doing it while drunk... what's what Cialis is for...Sadness. Some of these girls make more money than me. I've spoken to many girls at saunas who told me they made RMB40, 000 per month. That's a lot of money. Assuming the girls at the BBS make RMB10, 000 per month (fucking 5 times per day (I may be understating this number heavily). They get 100 each time. Assuming they work 20 days a month, that's 10, 000 per month. They could easily find a job in a factory in Dongguan making between RMB 2, 000 and RMB3, 000 per month. The reality is that it's more money with less work and these girls love shopping, buying clothes, watching tv, sleeping in, etc. As opposed to working 9 to 5 or longer.
There are the occasional girls who are pressured or forced into it, but the line that I often hear that they need to send money back to their hometown for an ailing parent is a lot bullshit to me. More than a few of the millions of young and female factory workers in China also have ailing parents and responsibilities. They just choose to work and not sell themselves.
In terms of being drunk while doing it, for sure. It's more fun to be drunk doing most things.
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-17-10, 07:33
BBS gal - pick 'em, bring 'em back and if no good, throw her out and get another one all within an hour or less!!
SEAJBest line I've heard summarizing the BBS experience - it really is an amazing time.
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-17-10, 07:46
There's only so much u can do at night. Footie...and then...probably nothing.
In the day, you can shop, footie, sleep, go BBS hunting, read a book, shoot the shit with ISGers, go hunting for freebies, etc.
At night? If you don't do KTVs, I guess you can watch TV or go to bed early.
Getting BBS girls at night will just get you sloppy 4ths or something like that. And night market, well, if you also don't mind a quickie with minimal chit-chat (or even a goodbye hug).
Case in point: desperate for a gal at 1 am, we went to the night market. Found a gal and I enjoyed the deed with her. Later found out that Santa did the same girl minutes before I found her. Also later found out that after me, she immediately got a next customer.
Nights are when most of them work. So why not work them at the KTV and then have the option of having her again in the morning or kicking her out so you can sleep by yourself?
I agree somewhat that KTV gals are somewhat similar to BBS gals, but I guess it's the fact that if you got better things to do at night, BBS is the best option. If you got nothing better to do, KTV is a great way to have fun and why not pick a girl who can drink, play, chat up? I've never got a BBS gal in the afternoon and kept her until the night. I tried that once (with you, SEAJ) but after the deed, she basically found excuses to be let go. Never took a BBS gal to a KTV. Seen guys do it tho, but I don't think I could pull it off. How do u guys do it??At night, after dinner and some drinks, there is always the great option of getting a girl from the BBS (the pickings are usually slim however), taking her back to your hotel, and after kicking her out, going to the night market once, twice, or three times in an evening. You could also choose to have the girl from the BBS or night market sleep over if that's your thing.
The only downside of the night market usually is the quality - the KTV girls are generally hotter.
In terms of the "sloppy fourths" or caring whether someone got her before you and after you, I don't think any girls in CP are pure - whether you're number 1, 10, or 30 that day it's really all the same. You're still number 1,000 or 4,000 overall.
KTV can be fun but I just don't see the value in it unless you're going with a group of guys - from a fucking as many girls as I can in as many hours as I can standpoint (my MO in CP) - KTV is rather a waste of time.
Just my opinion and I hope to have the opportunity to experience KTV with some veterans to be proven wrong.
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-17-10, 07:51
I've been lurking these forums for quite a while now and I've never felt the need to create an account till now.
For real, what is it with you guys calling people newbies? To those of you who like to call people noobs and think of yourself as seasoned vets please, GROW A BRAIN. How arrogant and ignorant can you get. You guys need to get that pickle outta your ass and stop acting like a bunch of high school girls talking crap about the new guy, its GAY.
So what if its someone's first time? BIG DEAL. We were all there at one point, no need to make others feel bad because they don't know the ropes, you people are all full grown men, act like it.CP,
Is there really a need to post that type of message? If you don't like the term "newbie", I would recommend you just read the forum and not post anything. Insulting and homophobic comments such as yours are really unnecessary and most would be more offended by your language than the word newbie. Something to keep in mind.
DD
So I learned a new word today. You guys know how we call all the new guys "newbies?" Well, in Mandarin, the word niu4 bi1, which sounds very similar to newbie, means just the opposite. It means something like "awesome," similar to "li4 hai4."
I looked up Niu4 Bi1 in the ABC Chinese-English Comprehensive Dictionary. The translation I came up with was "stubborn c*nt".
Niu 4= stubborn, difficult, obstinate.
Bi 1= is derogatory slang for pussy; a cuunt.
Robin Mill
04-17-10, 10:19
I looked up Niu4 Bi1 in the ABC Chinese-English Comprehensive Dictionary. The translation I came up with was "stubborn c*nt".
Niu 4= stubborn, difficult, obstinate.
Bi 1= is derogatory slang for pussy; a cuunt.Yes, Santa you are right.
I wonder where Moody got the 'awesome' from.
I'm a Chinese by race and Niu4 Bi1 means stubborn, like a bull.
Niu4. Is a actually a bull/cow.
So Niu4 Bi1 is a cow pussy. Geez.
It is not a Chinese phrase commonly use in my country, but it is common in China. I don't think any Chinese in my country will know what this means when I say it out.
Likewise, there is Sha3 Bi1, which means idiot.
Sha3. Is foolish
So Sha3 Bi1 is foolish pussy.
Funny at how common languages will go more and more towards sex.
"what the f*ck"
For real, what is it with you guys calling people newbies? To those of you who like to call people noobs and think of yourself as seasoned vets please, GROW A BRAIN. How arrogant and ignorant can you get. You guys need to get that pickle outta your ass and stop acting like a bunch of high school girls talking crap about the new guy, its GAY.
With comments like these, you'll stay at noob level forever on this rough and tumble board. You will elevate yourself to a more exalted status by
- not making your first post a roundhouse criticism
- getting a paid subscription
- supplying some of your own research
Gotta work yourself up. Like everywhere else.
I looked up Niu4 Bi1 in the ABC Chinese-English Comprehensive Dictionary. The translation I came up with was "stubborn c*nt".
Niu 4= stubborn, difficult, obstinate.
Bi 1= is derogatory slang for pussy; a cuunt.
I wouldn't trust a dictionary in matters like these. According to the seminal works on Chinese profanity, appropriately titled “Niubi! The real Chinese you will never be taught in School” by Eveline Chao, the literal translation of “niubi” is “cow pussy.” However, it is generally understood as “really fuckin’ cool”, “badass” or “fuckin’ awesome.” You can also shorten it to “niu” (i.e. cow minus the pussy,) which means “awesome” or “great.”
The Chinese boys and girls at my office always fall over themselves laughing when this Mandarin noob says “niubi.” Probably hitting the wrong tones.
Anyway, Moody is right. Niubi!
I've been lurking these forums for quite a while now and I've never felt the need to create an account till now.
For real, what is it with you guys calling people newbies? To those of you who like to call people noobs and think of yourself as seasoned vets please, GROW A BRAIN. How arrogant and ignorant can you get. You guys need to get that pickle outta your ass and stop acting like a bunch of high school girls talking crap about the new guy, its GAY.
So what if its someone's first time? BIG DEAL. We were all there at one point, no need to make others feel bad because they don't know the ropes, you people are all full grown men, act like it.
Relax buddy, and don't get your panties in a wad. Wasn't calling you or anybody else a "noob," I was just tellin the guys a new word I learned which I thought was kinda funny.
I looked up Niu4 Bi1 in the ABC Chinese-English Comprehensive Dictionary. The translation I came up with was "stubborn c*nt".
Niu 4= stubborn, difficult, obstinate.
Bi 1= is derogatory slang for pussy; a cuunt.
Well, the characters are as follows:
牛比 = niu3 bi1
The first character is for "cow," and the second one usually means something like "near." I have no idea why the Chinese associate being near a cow with being cool. It's similar to saying something like "zhen1 bang4," which is another word that if you look up what it means by the characters will get you nowhere because the characters mean something like "a real stick." The "bang4" is the same one they use for "bang4 bang4 tang2" for which "stick candy" is reasonable since it means "lollipop."
[/QUOTE]I wouldn't trust a dictionary in matters like these. According to the seminal works on Chinese profanity, appropriately titled “Niubi! The real Chinese you will never be taught in School” by Eveline Chao, the literal translation of “niubi” is “cow pussy.” However, it is generally understood as “really fuckin’ cool”, “badass” or “fuckin’ awesome.” You can also shorten it to “niu” (i.e. cow minus the pussy,) which means “awesome” or “great.” The Chinese boys and girls at my office always fall over themselves laughing when this Mandarin noob says “niubi.” Probably hitting the wrong tones.
Anyway, Moody is right. Niubi![/QUOTE]
Thank you Zhuren and Moody.
I know Moody is right. When it comes to pussy I know Moody gets it right!
Whether "niubi" is translated as "obstinate cu*nt", or "cow's pussy", it all needs servicing, It's all good! It all needs loving! It's all "fuckin' awesome!"
Wether your'e a horny old bull or a horny old hominid, it's all fucking cool!
SE Asia Joe
04-18-10, 08:51
Thank you Zhuren and Moody.
I know Moody is right. When it comes to pussy I know Moody gets it right!
Whether "niubi" is translated as "obstinate cu*nt", or "cow's pussy", it all needs servicing, It's all good! It all needs loving! It's all "fuckin' awesome!"
Wether your'e a horny old bull or a horny hominid, it's all fucking cool!
NOPE!!!
You are the one who's correct Santa -
Just read "To Cp's" post - surely everybody can easily see the connection with "obstinate cu*nt!!"
Muahahah
SEAJ
I hope I can type all of this out while it's still fresh in my mind. Golden island Sauna in Tangxia is a great place. I took pictures of the facilities and I will post it up. the place is newly renovated just last year. Just when all saunas in Tangxia seemed to have been shut down. Golden Island is still booming and going strong. Sunshine Hotel Sauna was closed down the last I checked.
Golden Island is similar to MeiBao Sauna. The price includes the girl's fees and room fees together. They come in 500 RMB group girls, inclusive of the room fees, 600 RMB inclusive and 700 RMB inclusive. 500= shorter girls, but still cute. 600=a bit taller. 700=168 cm or taller. They even have a stripper pole in which they do a strip tease dance for you.
They also have two russian girls working there for 1000 RMB inclusive of the room fees. The girls here are a bit less used than CP sauna girls because they have less traffic in this part of Dongguan.
I chose 180, Hubei girls who was about 164 cm, athletic, and only 18 years old. She looked like Michelle Kwan, but had a nice rack. Tattoo on her back, which some guys are into, i'm indifferent. She was willing to please and new to the game, just started no more than 2-3 months from what she says. She swims every other day so she's got a really fit body! You can imagine a body, skinny everywhere, and then she's got those pointy breasts that are a good 36B.
They have a steam room which is inside of the shower room. And they fill the steam room full of steam, and you can't see very well due to the fogginess of the steam and she comes and gives you a nice blow job, which felt really great because there's an element of surprise not knowing where she's going to touch you etc. Then you proceed to the large shower bed in the bathroom where they you get to release one pop. After that one pop, they shower you, dry you off let you rest a bit on the bed. They then proceed to turn you on by their stripping routine using a real life stripper pole with the lighting and the whole nine yards. Then goes to the same routine, fire and ice and then sucking and blowing where you finish up with your second pop. They are trained in massaging as well and I got a nice massage after my second pop, whereas other sauna girls in CP saunas get lazy and just want to cuddle with you so they can do less work.
Overall, a great place to visit. Sometimes you get great finds when you leave CP. A highly recommended place by me.
AsnDragon
Rumors of Prince Sauna being closed down is false. In fact, if anything the place is booming. I went on a Saturday at 3 pm and the place was just completely booked. All rooms were full so we had to wait for 40 mins. When we arrived we were shown only 4 girls because all the other 100 girls were taken or reserved already. But out of the 4, one cutie spotted my eyes.
I got a girl number 398, very cute girl from Guizhou. She's only 19 years old. She's got an athletic body because she's a runner, jogs every 2-3 days or so in the morning. Don't ask me why I ended up with two girls who have an athletic build, it was just the luck of the draw. She didn't have a phenomenal body, but it was alright. She was toned, a bit bigger on the thighs, but she had a nice ass though. Very cute smile, very cute face had a great attitude, and really made you feel like she was your GF, which is a rare feeling in a Sauna type of environment.
She got so easily wet down there it's not even funny. apparently, you are allowed to use a dildo on them, and i only slightly rubbed her and didn't even put it in and she was glistening with juice already. They have a stocking theme play where they wear stockings and you tear apart the stocking right before you are ready to do the deed.
Same routine as other place. Luxury rooms are 398 and they have a table shower. regular rooms are 298 with no table shower, but they do have a small steam room. All of the rooms have "fuck chairs" where the girl sits on it and you can do them standing up, so you have less of a muscle cramp on your Quads and calves.
Girl's tips are 500, it's more expensive than other places, but then again the girls are prettier on average in my opinion. They are even required to trim (NOT SHAVE) their xiao mei mei. So their service is top notch.
AsnDragon
SEAJoe,
Firstly, I would have to agree with you on the KTV statement at times. After a whole night of drinking and then eating a midnight snack, once you come back to your hotel room it's about 2 am. You are hammered with alcohol and so damn tired. You want to get one pop in, but honestly, when I have too much to drink I cannot cum. I found myself pumping and pumping for so long that my whole body gets tired that I actually end up too tired to do it anymore and just fall asleep. What a waste huh?
But KTV girls are just that much prettier than BBS girls though. Yes..you do find a gem once in a while at the BBS, but when you get into a KTV, just being able to look at all the beautiful girls, all nicely dressed and made up, you can't help but feel this rush of excitement. Somehow, going into a BBS, after going for 13 days in a row, doesn't bring that same rush. Firstly, after going in so many days, all the girls know you and you know all the girls, the ones you are never going to pick in the first place give you this sh*tface look. and the ones you did already just ignore you because you usually don't do the same girl more than 2 times. Then you are left with the potential girls that you could choose, which are only about 30% of the girls. After 13 days of straight BBS i usually take a break for a few days to see if they restock new girls for me to take a look at. Therefore, KTV's give you lots of selections. Sure you see the same faces again, but places like Eurasia or Mayflower have 800-1000 girls the chances of finding a new one or a good ones you haven't seen is pretty high.
But Joe, where have you been? I only got to see you one time this trip, and it was at Versaille. When you don't see SEAJoe around...it means he's in love...again!
AsnDragon
Well, it IS different strokes for different folks after all!!
For me, its the "connection" with the gal that makes all the difference in the actual act of sex. And the funny thing is that I can never be sure if I'm gonna have such connection or not until such time that I'm actually doing the deed!
No amount of time or conversation or the various "tests' that different mongers have told me to try out ever works in pinning down a girl I'm gonna have a "connection" with prior to the actual doing it!!
And that's why I most times prefer the BBS gals rather than a KTV one. It's not only the money - but more so, it's the time involved and the drinking and the staying out until all hours of the night ..... which just contributes to generally fatigue and/or sometimes "dead dick" syndrome (so drunk that my dick is insensitive/cannot come - or so drunk that I actually cannot get it up for long!!). BBS gal - pick 'em, bring 'em back and if no good, throw her out and get another one all within an hour or less!!
KTV.... well, I on the other hand do enjoy going to KTV's for the rowdiness, the hanging out with the guys, for the stoooopid singing, the stooopider still games; just for a nice night out. But definitely NOT in the expectations of hooking with my soul mate!! Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't - but no big deal
Just IMHO
SEAJ
To Will Robins and Pointpanic,
I was at Fuhao last week and I saw "wen wen" the same girl that we were all drooling over at the line up that Friday I believe, or was it Saturday. She was hiding behind some girls at the lineup. As I was walking over to choose her and talk to her, she was snatched up by the customer and she walked away. Literally last Friday was just too wild, so many guys pushing you around on the flower street. It was an insane sight! Standing up on the second floor looking down at the flower street, it appeared as if there was more mongers out there than girls to choose from. So anyhow, I did get a glimpse at her, she changed her cell phone number so there's no way to reach her. She does not work regularly only when she needs money so....getting her at the lineup is no that easy of a task.
Maybe Will will have a better luck this June when you come over. You seem to always pick the cute and pretty ones. Must be your backflips or you flipping them in the air that attracts them to you.
AsnDragon
Cunning Linguist
04-18-10, 12:28
SEAJoe,
Firstly, I would have to agree with you on the KTV statement at times. After a whole night of drinking and then eating a midnight snack, once you come back to your hotel room it's about 2 am. You are hammered with alcohol and so damn tired. You want to get one pop in, but honestly, when I have too much to drink I cannot cum. I found myself pumping and pumping for so long that my whole body gets tired that I actually end up too tired to do it anymore and just fall asleep. What a waste huh?
But KTV girls are just that much prettier than BBS girls though. Yes..you do find a gem once in a while at the BBS, but when you get into a KTV, just being able to look at all the beautiful girls, all nicely dressed and made up, you can't help but feel this rush of excitement. Somehow, going into a BBS, after going for 13 days in a row, doesn't bring that same rush. Firstly, after going in so many days, all the girls know you and you know all the girls, the ones you are never going to pick in the first place give you this sh*tface look. and the ones you did already just ignore you because you usually don't do the same girl more than 2 times. Then you are left with the potential girls that you could choose, which are only about 30% of the girls. After 13 days of straight BBS i usually take a break for a few days to see if they restock new girls for me to take a look at. Therefore, KTV's give you lots of selections. Sure you see the same faces again, but places like Eurasia or Mayflower have 800-1000 girls the chances of finding a new one or a good ones you haven't seen is pretty high.
But Joe, where have you been? I only got to see you one time this trip, and it was at Versaille. When you don't see SEAJoe around...it means he's in love...again!
AsnDragonI am definitely on my way to CP this summer and looking forward to Big Swinging Dave's able guidance. I will be there a few weeks too. In any case, in reading this thread, I have not come across all the protocols of a KTV, specifically regarding drinking. You are expected to drink and drink. Isn't it possible to nurse a drink for a while? My concern is not the money but, like others, the ability to get it up and keep it up. Also, in my experience, a girl tanked up is usually a starfish at best in the sack. What strategy is there to get out of a KTV with a good girl and in a state to copulate "comme il faut" (French for "as it should be", sorry, but I really like that phrase)?
I agree wholeheartedly with Southeast Joe about making the connection. The deed is always nicer if there is a bit of chemistry. I think Southeast Joe and I have a lot in common regarding attitudes towards girls (e.g. natural, non-shaved beauties, getting a sort of rapport going)
I have done mongering in a lot of weird settings ranging from Thailand to Laos, the Dominican Republic to Haiti (and have duly posted on some of the experiences). This BBS and KTV thing is going to be interesting.
You are expected to drink and drink. Isn't it possible to nurse a drink for a while? My concern is not the money but, like others, the ability to get it up and keep it up. Also, in my experience, a girl tanked up is usually a starfish at best in the sack. What strategy is there to get out of a KTV with a good girl and in a state to copulate "comme il faut" (French for "as it should be", sorry, but I really like that phrase)?
I haven't done KTV in DG for several years, however I do Fujian area several times a year and always have a few nights out with my business partners. In my experience at least (and this could easy differ in different places) it is possible to pay an agreed amount of money for the room and the girls so keeping you drinking is not an issue. Sorry I don't know how much, however it can't be too crazy because we have never had a problem. I agree, I'd rather get to know the Gal so I can decide keep or trade, than sit there getting smashed and then not enjoying the best part at the end.
Pointpanic
04-18-10, 16:27
ASNDragon,
Wow if you see her again you have got to get her new number. Just need to have her for my demented artistic tendencies. Ha ha ha! You have a great memory as that Friday or Saturday had to be last September or November as I recall. Did you say hi to Reception Girl? Lastly, I never tire of BBS girls because for me the familiarity allows them to relax and become more adventurous to their or my proclivities even with more than one or two at a time On the other hand I have not been so lucky to spend 13 days in a row in CP. I am envious. Please continue to have a great time. I was almost going to try to meet you in SF on the first of May but cancelled because of other assignments. Hi to Santa please.
Point
To Will Robins and Pointpanic,
I was at Fuhao last week and I saw "wen wen" the same girl that we were all drooling over at the line up that Friday I believe, or was it Saturday. She was hiding behind some girls at the lineup. As I was walking over to choose her and talk to her, she was snatched up by the customer and she walked away. Literally last Friday was just too wild, so many guys pushing you around on the flower street. It was an insane sight! Standing up on the second floor looking down at the flower street, it appeared as if there was more mongers out there than girls to choose from. So anyhow, I did get a glimpse at her, she changed her cell phone number so there's no way to reach her. She does not work regularly only when she needs money so....getting her at the lineup is no that easy of a task.
Maybe Will will have a better luck this June when you come over. You seem to always pick the cute and pretty ones. Must be your backflips or you flipping them in the air that attracts them to you.
AsnDragon
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Cunning Linguist,
There's no rule that you have to drink a specified amount of alcohol. You really make the rules, nobody's going to force you. So if you just want to keep it laid back, you can pick the girls who are not heavy drinkers. But do beware, the wild girls usually drink quite a bit. In addition, there are some girls who purposely try to overdrink so that they can appear too drunk to go back with you or too drunk to do anything with you when you take them back.
KTV girls are the luck of the draw. Unless you know the mommies really well and the mommy gives you their word that she will be a good girl to you that same evening, nothing is for sure. I've had girls who purposely over drink so that they don't have to go out with me. I've had girls who over drink just so they can weasel their way out of not doing anything with you back in the room at night and then try to leave early in the morning without allowing you to do them at all. This doesn't usually happen, but there are some cunning girls out there that pull this stunt on you when they feel they can get away with it.
Let's face it, many of these KTV girls have a boyfriend already who tricked them into being a working girl so that they can benefit off their lucrative line of work. So many of these KTV girls, not All nor MOST, don't really care about the customer, they just wanna get things over with so that they can go back and spend time with their useless boyfriends who pimped them out into this line of work. So girls trying to give you excuses to leave early or no go out with you, usually is linked to the fact that they just want to go home to spend time with the guy they really like.
After a while you realize that KTV or just working girls and the emotions involved are nothing more than just a game...everything is an illusion, more like role playing or acting in a sense. KTV's set up this elaborate atmosphere to make every monger feel comfortable, well liked, and most of feel important. Their protocol is to call every customer as "lao ban" =Boss. From Higher Mangement to middle management and from the Mommies to the DJs, they all address you as the boss, the big gun. Subconsciously, we feel just that much more important when everyone comes and praises you and treats you like royalty. A big ego boost. You are then presented with lines of beautiful girls, who appear willing and eager to please you, sit with you and be with you. It's very easy to fall victim into this trap...we all do one time or other. You drink and get buzzed, your girl just seems that much prettier after you have alcohol in your system. Once your buzzed their compliments, every touch seems to make you feel even better, more wanted. Then you take them back and it's either a hit or miss situation.
One thing that you have to think about is....these girls work almost 20 days a month. meaning they sit with at least 20 different customers a month, sometimes they sit 2-3 customers a day, so the range can be from 20-60 customers a month. What makes us feel that we are that much more special than the next guy they sit with the next day or the day after? The reality check is that we are not that much more important. We pay to go to a KTV for the illusion that you feel special and a pretty girls likes you. But in reality it's all just a game. One time or other we get sucked in hard into this illusion and we get burned really bad by the girl. From my experience, for a KTV to really like you, and I mean genuinely want to be with you and only you with no preconditions, is about a 20% chance. (now this may seem like a high number, but it doesn't take into the account whether or not you like that girl)
KTV girls are dangerous. They are prettier than the average BBS girls and appear less jaded than the average Sauna girl. They are well dressed, well groomed, and they catch you in a high class atmosphere where you almost forget that they are paid to sit with you or be with you. I've fallen victim to many KTV girls just because they are just that much hotter in my opinion. The KTV girls that survive in the KTV world, are usually the deadliest. In a cut throat environment where you are competing with thousands of other girls, to survive you have to be on top of your game- you have to know how to converse, know how to flirt, know how to compliment and lure in guys for the highly sought after "overnight KTV fee." Only the most cunning survive in the KTV world. These sirens are ones you have to be careful with, they can empty your wallets and at the same time steal your heart at the same time. I think the latter is harder to deal with than the money part. I've seen guys do stupid things for these girls...but you can only judge them to be stupid when you are not caught deep into the trap within the emotional abyss that these KTV girls set up for you.
Have fun, but be cautious of your wallet and your emotions.
AsnDragon
I am definitely on my way to CP this summer and looking forward to Big Swinging Dave's able guidance. I will be there a few weeks too. In any case, in reading this thread, I have not come across all the protocols of a KTV, specifically regarding drinking. You are expected to drink and drink. Isn't it possible to nurse a drink for a while? My concern is not the money but, like others, the ability to get it up and keep it up. Also, in my experience, a girl tanked up is usually a starfish at best in the sack. What strategy is there to get out of a KTV with a good girl and in a state to copulate "comme il faut" (French for "as it should be", sorry, but I really like that phrase)?
I agree wholeheartedly with Southeast Joe about making the connection. The deed is always nicer if there is a bit of chemistry. I think Southeast Joe and I have a lot in common regarding attitudes towards girls (e.g. natural, non-shaved beauties, getting a sort of rapport going)
I have done mongering in a lot of weird settings ranging from Thailand to Laos, the Dominican Republic to Haiti (and have duly posted on some of the experiences). This BBS and KTV thing is going to be interesting.
I wonder where Moody got the 'awesome' from.
How about just taking my word on this since I do speak to the natives on a regular basis. If not, how about a dictionary that's regularly updated with slang like the following:
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=worddict&wdrst=0&wdqb=Niubi
As a Mandarin speaker, you should recognize not everything is literal. Probably half of Mandarin, especially since they simplified it, can't be derived from just reading the characters.
cunning linguist,
there's no rule that you have to drink a specified amount of alcohol. you really make the rules, nobody's going to force you. so if you just want to keep it laid back, you can pick the girls who are not heavy drinkers. but do beware, the wild girls usually drink quite a bit. in addition, there are some girls who purposely try to overdrink so that they can appear too drunk to go back with you or too drunk to do anything with you when you take them back.
ktv girls are the luck of the draw. unless you know the mommies really well and the mommy gives you their word that she will be a good girl to you that same evening, nothing is for sure. i've had girls who purposely over drink so that they don't have to go out with me. i've had girls who over drink just so they can weasel their way out of not doing anything with you back in the room at night and then try to leave early in the morning without allowing you to do them at all. this doesn't usually happen, but there are some cunning girls out there that pull this stunt on you when they feel they can get away with it.
let's face it, many of these ktv girls have a boyfriend already who tricked them into being a working girl so that they can benefit off their lucrative line of work. so many of these ktv girls, not all nor most, don't really care about the customer, they just wanna get things over with so that they can go back and spend time with their useless boyfriends who pimped them out into this line of work. so girls trying to give you excuses to leave early or no go out with you, usually is linked to the fact that they just want to go home to spend time with the guy they really like.
after a while you realize that ktv or just working girls and the emotions involved are nothing more than just a game...everything is an illusion, more like role playing or acting in a sense. ktv's set up this elaborate atmosphere to make every monger feel comfortable, well liked, and most of feel important. their protocol is to call every customer as "lao ban" =boss. from higher mangement to middle management and from the mommies to the djs, they all address you as the boss, the big gun. subconsciously, we feel just that much more important when everyone comes and praises you and treats you like royalty. a big ego boost. you are then presented with lines of beautiful girls, who appear willing and eager to please you, sit with you and be with you. it's very easy to fall victim into this trap...we all do one time or other. you drink and get buzzed, your girl just seems that much prettier after you have alcohol in your system. once your buzzed their compliments, every touch seems to make you feel even better, more wanted. then you take them back and it's either a hit or miss situation.
one thing that you have to think about is....these girls work almost 20 days a month. meaning they sit with at least 20 different customers a month, sometimes they sit 2-3 customers a day, so the range can be from 20-60 customers a month. what makes us feel that we are that much more special than the next guy they sit with the next day or the day after? the reality check is that we are not that much more important. we pay to go to a ktv for the illusion that you feel special and a pretty girls likes you. but in reality it's all just a game. one time or other we get sucked in hard into this illusion and we get burned really bad by the girl. from my experience, for a ktv to really like you, and i mean genuinely want to be with you and only you with no preconditions, is about a 20% chance. (now this may seem like a high number, but it doesn't take into the account whether or not you like that girl)
ktv girls are dangerous. they are prettier than the average bbs girls and appear less jaded than the average sauna girl. they are well dressed, well groomed, and they catch you in a high class atmosphere where you almost forget that they are paid to sit with you or be with you. i've fallen victim to many ktv girls just because they are just that much hotter in my opinion. the ktv girls that survive in the ktv world, are usually the deadliest. in a cut throat environment where you are competing with thousands of other girls, to survive you have to be on top of your game- you have to know how to converse, know how to flirt, know how to compliment and lure in guys for the highly sought after "overnight ktv fee." only the most cunning survive in the ktv world. these sirens are ones you have to be careful with, they can empty your wallets and at the same time steal your heart at the same time. i think the latter is harder to deal with than the money part. i've seen guys do stupid things for these girls...but you can only judge them to be stupid when you are not caught deep into the trap within the emotional abyss that these ktv girls set up for you.
have fun, but be cautious of your wallet and your emotions.
asndragon
this is what happens when you think too much about this stuff. that's why it's a good idea to pickle your brain with alcohol so it stops thinking. just go to ktv, pick a girl, get drunk, have fun. that's it. whether the fun includes taking the girl back and fucking her, who knows.
perhaps i haven't been to ktv as many times as some others here, but my experience has been a bit different in the drunk girl respect. the girls who drink heavily tend to be more fun, at both ktv and in the hotel room. to be honest, i like girls who drink heavy. the ones that don't tend to be more on the boring and mercenary side. this obviously excludes the girls who got way too drunk and started throwing up everywhere and passing out on the couch, although once they wake up and brush their teeth, they're ok too. one of my friends had a girl who drank so much she peed herself, but i've only seen that once, and that was funny as hell. let me tell you, a event like that is much more memorable than fucking the dozens or hundreds of girls whose names you forget an hour after they leave.
finally, i just want to say, i really don't want the girls to genuinely like me. it makes everything much sadder. back in the old days in sz, i had regular ktv girls in both sz and dg. a few of whom told me they liked me for whatever reason. sure it's nice when a pretty girl shows up at your place and brings you chocolates and stuff, but later on, things get all messy and messy is the last thing you want from a ktv girl. believe me when i say this, a ktv girl falling in love with you is like a bizarre existential punishment that someone like jp sartre would have written about if he were alive today.
How about just taking my word on this since I do speak to the natives on a regular basis. If not, how about a dictionary that's regularly updated with slang like the following:
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=worddict&wdrst=0&wdqb=Niubi
As a Mandarin speaker, you should recognize not everything is literal. Probably half of Mandarin, especially since they simplified it, can't be derived from just reading the characters.
Nice dictionary. Thank you Moody.
Robin Mill
04-19-10, 11:11
How about just taking my word on this since I do speak to the natives on a regular basis. If not, how about a dictionary that's regularly updated with slang like the following:
http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=worddict&wdrst=0&wdqb=Niubi
As a Mandarin speaker, you should recognize not everything is literal. Probably half of Mandarin, especially since they simplified it, can't be derived from just reading the characters.Hi Moody
Wow. Great site!
Funny at how langauge always envolved.
I can see how it changes.
Stubborn (as in a cow). Arrogant. Cocky. Capable (people start to use it in a positive light). Awesome!
Geez, even I couldn't keep up with my native languages!.
Robin Mill
04-19-10, 11:15
To Will Robins and Pointpanic,
I was at Fuhao last week and I saw "wen wen" the same girl that we were all drooling over at the line up that Friday I believe, or was it Saturday. She was hiding behind some girls at the lineup. As I was walking over to choose her and talk to her, she was snatched up by the customer and she walked away. Literally last Friday was just too wild, so many guys pushing you around on the flower street. It was an insane sight! Standing up on the second floor looking down at the flower street, it appeared as if there was more mongers out there than girls to choose from. So anyhow, I did get a glimpse at her, she changed her cell phone number so there's no way to reach her. She does not work regularly only when she needs money so....getting her at the lineup is no that easy of a task.
Maybe Will will have a better luck this June when you come over. You seem to always pick the cute and pretty ones. Must be your backflips or you flipping them in the air that attracts them to you.
AsnDragonHi AsnDragon!
Yupe. Please book your date to party in Fuhao with me in June ok?
I see Pointpanic did not manage to grab hold of her yet. Haha.
Just to stop everyone from guessing the look of this girl, who me, Pointpanic and AsnDragon is drooling over, I have 3 pictures taken of her from my cell phone.
Is it ok to put it up? A face picture.
The picture doesn't do her justice though, as she look way prettier in person.
Meiguoguizi
04-19-10, 13:08
Well, the characters are as follows:
牛比 = niu3 bi1
The first character is for "cow," and the second one usually means something like "near." "
牛 niu is second tone niú
牛 niu is second tone niú
Crap, it is the 2nd tone. Sorry, lot of times, I get the 2nd and 3rd mixed up in my head. I know it's the rising tone, but for some reason, my brain frequently thinks the 2nd tone is the falling rising and the 3rd tone is the rising. Sorry, for the confusion.
Dongguan Doug
04-20-10, 02:10
Went to a massage parlor in HouJie last night after work. A colleague of mine insisted we go there, and even though I would prefer to visit a sauna or BBS, I went along for the new experience. The place is called HAILIHUA RECREATION CENTER – located in Houjie Village Crossing, Housha road, in Houjie town. Please PM me for the Manager's name and contact information if required.
The place had a very similar setup than most saunas do. You walk in, the manager will escort you towards a room. The rooms are set up almost identically to the sauna ones, except older and more decrepit. There are two service options: the oil massage and tug which costs RMB188 minus an 18 discount (you get it every time) for a total of RMB170 or RMB300 for the massage followed by a fuck. I decided to check out the girls first before making a decision.
They brought in one girl. Ugly. I asked for another. Another came in. Ugly. And another arrived. Ugly. They only show you one girl at a time since, as per the manager, they don't have that many girls working there at that time (it was 5pm). After seeing 4 girls (all unattractive) I eventually picked a 19 year old from Hunan – I forgot her number – and apart from having big tits, she had absolutely nothing going for her. The only “attractive” one, and I use that term loosely, was number 885 which my colleague saw first and naturally picked before me.
We showered together first then onto the bed for the massage. The massage wasn't great. The girl yawned and burped more times than I care to think of. After an hour or so, she asked me if I was ready for my tug. She used poor technique and it was very unenjoyable – I could have done it myself and had a better time. We showered again and I paid my 170 and left. I will never return and only recommend going there if you've consumed a copious amount of alcohol first – but even then a RMN100 BBS in Houjie would be more fun at that point.
DD
Big Swingin Dave
04-21-10, 18:44
Due to the National Grievance Day in memory of the victims of the Qing Hai Yu Shu Earthquake 青海玉树地震, the KTVs, Saunas, and BBS were great affected. Mayflower, Manhattan, Virgin, New Century, and a few others were closed. Others not mentioned here were operating in cognito mode. The front doors were locked and dark so patrons must enter in the side or back entrance only. All the WGs were in regular street clothes with no flower-street. We were told that business should be back to normal tomorrow but will not know for sure until 4pm.
BSD
Will,
I think it's ok to put her facial picture online, so long as it's not a naked picture of her. Not sure how the rule is around here. I don't think that most people will ever get a chance to see her in person anyways because she rarely works and is always going all over the place.
Anyhow, wish i could be there in June, but will be somewhere else around that time. Slowly...i'm trying to recover from the Chang Ping Blues right now. So far...i'm not very successful.
AsnDragon
Hi AsnDragon!
Yupe. Please book your date to party in Fuhao with me in June ok?
I see Pointpanic did not manage to grab hold of her yet. Haha.
Just to stop everyone from guessing the look of this girl, who me, Pointpanic and AsnDragon is drooling over, I have 3 pictures taken of her from my cell phone.
Is it ok to put it up? A face picture.
The picture doesn't do her justice though, as she look way prettier in person.
Moody,
Wow, so she actually showed up to your place with chocolates? I never get chocolates! The most I ever get is a stuffed animal from the girl.
But I get your point, sticky and messy is really not a good thing when it comes to China girls in general. Somehow, when i get freebies from a working girl...i feel guilty inside. I don't know why. So i do the SEAJoe approach and buy them some gifts or things they need around the house. I can't seem to accept freebies so freely.
Recently, there was a KTV girl who invited me to her place and wanted to "sleep over." Now, I could have gotten it for free, but I declined and went home because I knew what the consequences could be. If I stayed, I would want to pay her the next morning, but if I did she would feel like I didn't like her. But if I didn't pay her then I would feel guilty inside. Guilty because i don't want to toy with Working Girl's emotions because I don't like giving false promises that I'm going to be steady with her on a long term basis. Besides, they are in this line of work for money and to confuse her or to deprive her of money, which is their ultimate goal, I feel is a bit sinister. Now if it were a non-working girl giving you a freebie, then I have no qualms about that. But working girls put a shield/wall in front of them and the customers so that they can carry on working day in and day out without any emotional attachment. But once you tear that wall down, I feel that it's not fair to the girl, and it hinders their capabilities to do their job effectively.
In any case, I declined to sleep over. I go to her KTV two days later and decided that I wanted a different girl. Don't get me wrong, she was cute! But cute was all she was. her personality was a bit on the rough side and she didn't have much of a body. But that night i wanted a hot girl, taller and more on the curvy sexy side. One thing led to another, and she spotted me at the flower street and i think i caught a glimpse of her and walked away. In any case, she was pissed that i came to her KTV and did not tell her in advance that i was coming. She later on got picked by another customer and then she severed all ties with me. Wrote me a message to not talk to her again.
So I sorta learned my lesson. When you become too deeply involved with a KTV girl you can't ever go back to her KTV and pick another girl. It makes going to KTVs not all that fun. It limits the number of KTVs that you can freely go to and choose girls.
Somehow I always attract the ones I don't really like, but the ones I really like are never attracted to me.
AsnDragon
Finally, I just want to say, I really don't want the girls to genuinely like me. It makes everything much sadder. Back in the old days in SZ, I had regular KTV girls in both SZ and DG. A few of whom told me they liked me for whatever reason. Sure it's nice when a pretty girl shows up at your place and brings you chocolates and stuff, but later on, things get all messy and messy is the last thing you want from a KTV girl. Believe me when I say this, a KTV girl falling in love with you is like a bizarre existential punishment that someone like JP Sartre would have written about if he were alive today.
BSD,
I got messages from many girls from all different types of KTVs about today's national greivance day, and it's fair to say that about 85% of all KTVs in CP was shut down due to this national observance day. But you still managed to gather a group together and go party at a place that was still open! Impressed.
AsnDragon
Due to the National Grievance Day in memory of the victims of the Qing Hai Yu Shu Earthquake 青海玉树地震, the KTVs, Saunas, and BBS were great affected. Mayflower, Manhattan, Virgin, New Century, and a few others were closed. Others not mentioned here were operating in cognito mode. The front doors were locked and dark so patrons must enter in the side or back entrance only. All the WGs were in regular street clothes with no flower-street. We were told that business should be back to normal tomorrow but will not know for sure until 4pm.
BSD
Dongguan Doug,
Well...when you compare the girls you got at Houjie to the hot northern girls you see in those saunas up in ChangChun, I don't think there's much comparison. But perhaps the girls down south go through less customers a day than the 10-12 customers they churn out in Changchun with 35 minute sessions per customer, I guess that may be the only upside to what you got at Houjie.
But I guess you gotta try everything at least once right? Bad experiences will always allow you to treasure the good experiences.
AsnDragon
Went to a massage parlor in HouJie last night after work. A colleague of mine insisted we go there, and even though I would prefer to visit a sauna or BBS, I went along for the new experience. The place is called HAILIHUA RECREATION CENTER – located in Houjie Village Crossing, Housha road, in Houjie town. Please PM me for the Manager's name and contact information if required.
The place had a very similar setup than most saunas do. You walk in, the manager will escort you towards a room. The rooms are set up almost identically to the sauna ones, except older and more decrepit. There are two service options: the oil massage and tug which costs RMB188 minus an 18 discount (you get it every time) for a total of RMB170 or RMB300 for the massage followed by a fuck. I decided to check out the girls first before making a decision.
They brought in one girl. Ugly. I asked for another. Another came in. Ugly. And another arrived. Ugly. They only show you one girl at a time since, as per the manager, they don't have that many girls working there at that time (it was 5pm). After seeing 4 girls (all unattractive) I eventually picked a 19 year old from Hunan – I forgot her number – and apart from having big tits, she had absolutely nothing going for her. The only “attractive” one, and I use that term loosely, was number 885 which my colleague saw first and naturally picked before me.
We showered together first then onto the bed for the massage. The massage wasn't great. The girl yawned and burped more times than I care to think of. After an hour or so, she asked me if I was ready for my tug. She used poor technique and it was very unenjoyable – I could have done it myself and had a better time. We showered again and I paid my 170 and left. I will never return and only recommend going there if you've consumed a copious amount of alcohol first – but even then a RMN100 BBS in Houjie would be more fun at that point.
DD
BruceTea,
Firstly, great to meet you and party with you. I may have failed as a wingman, but that's only because you ratted me out to the KTV girl.
I actually have brought BBS girls to KTVs. It's rare, but i do once in a while, when i find a girl that I actually like. In addition, some of the BBS girls all work at Mayflower anyhow on Fridays and Saturdays, so when you take them out on a weekday to a KTV, they fit right in because they work at KTVs as well.
But I get your point though. If you are going to a KTV anyways, you would want to pick girls at that KTV which you cannot frequent so often, as opposed to bringing in a BBS girl where you could get her most days of the week. Besides, you do better with KTV girls....I saw how you always find some way to flirt and get into the hearts of those KTV girls all the time. I saw it at fuhao, Yingxiang, Eurasia, Manhattan etc... Every girl seems to end up liking you...but only if they are "BruceTea Girl."
And also...eventually...every BBS girl you do is a sloppy second from Santa. The guy's on fire...after a few weeks, he's basically done all the girls at all the BBS. It's pretty amazing the stamina he has. Also, Santa- you should post up on the board the one night market girl you got that has bumps all over her body. It's always good to warn other brothers of the potential dangers of catching something from girls who need to see the doctor.
AsnDragon
I agree somewhat that KTV gals are somewhat similar to BBS gals, but I guess it's the fact that if you got better things to do at night, BBS is the best option. If you got nothing better to do, KTV is a great way to have fun and why not pick a girl who can drink, play, chat up? I've never got a BBS gal in the afternoon and kept her until the night. I tried that once (with you, SEAJ) but after the deed, she basically found excuses to be let go. Never took a BBS gal to a KTV. Seen guys do it tho, but I don't think I could pull it off. How do u guys do it??
I actually have brought BBS girls to KTVs. It's rare, but i do once in a while, when i find a girl that I actually like. In addition, some of the BBS girls all work at Mayflower anyhow on Fridays and Saturdays, so when you take them out on a weekday to a KTV, they fit right in because they work at KTVs as well.
More than a few times, I've told BBS girls I would be going to KTV later in the evening. Usually, they ask if they can come along. I always tell them, "no." I don't really see the point in going to a KTV and bringing a girl along. If you're gonna bring a girl along, you may as well go to those places where they rent you a room by the hour and you can bring along your own booze. You'll probably save a couple thousand RMB that way.
. Also, Santa- you should post up on the board the one night market girl you got that has bumps all over her body. It's always good to warn other brothers of the potential dangers of catching something from girls who need to see the doctor.
AsnDragon
Sorry, I have forgotten her name. Xiao Budian? Third shop down.
Cute girl and very nice, but has lots and lots of small reddish spots on her body, but not on her face or hands. Maybe the spots are caused by an allergy or bed bugs. I don't know. Anyway, a very sweet young lady. I told her to see a doctor. I don't think it is contagious, but i am not a dermatologist.
I have seen this before but do not know what it is. Any ideas?
Pointpanic
04-22-10, 14:43
Santa,
Xiao Budian is a night market girl about 5 feet tall cute with nice b/c cups, with a happy smiling face and very pleasant and compliant. If she is the same one she has been their nearly two years. About third shop in at the night market. Had no markings a year and a half ago. Course frizzy hair but really nice body.
Point
Sorry, I have forgotten her name. Xiao Budian? Third shop down.
Cute girl and very nice, but has lots and lots of small reddish spots on her body, but not on her face or hands. Maybe the spots are caused by an allergy or bed bugs. I don't know. Anyway, a very sweet young lady. I told her to see a doctor. I don't think it is contagious, but i am not a dermatologist.
I have seen this before but do not know what it is. Any ideas?
Santa,
Xiao Budian is a night market girl about 5 feet tall cute with nice b/c cups, with a happy smiling face and very pleasant and compliant. If she is the same one she has been their nearly two years. About third shop in at the night market. Had no markings a year and a half ago. Course frizzy hair but really nice body.
Point
Not the same girl. "She has a pink one and a white one, and one with a little shite on, and the hairs of her dik4yi-dai4-dou hang down to her knees". That's from a little ballad I learned as a child.
As I have said, I have seen this before, where the girls body is covered with little red spots, all except for her hands and face. I thought maybe caused by an allergic reaction to her bedding or clothing, or maybe bedbug bites. The spots were a total turn-off and I lost interest in doing her. Paid her anyway, out of pity I suppose, and told her to see a doctor.
Another CP girl had a large lump in her breast. I felt it while playing with her titties. I did not say anything about it because it would frighten her and "ruin the mood". I later learned from the internet that very young ladies DO sometimes get breast cancer, and so i should have said something.
There is so much filth and contamination in our beloved China that I'm sure cancer must be quickly on the rise. Wadman and I argued over the vile, blackened and totally disgusting water running across the Swanlake Road near the old Xindi Disco. Is it a "river" or a "sewer"? I would argue that CP no longer has any rivers! Avoid sitting next to the window at the HK dimsum 2nd floor joint, where you see the black filth flowing outside. A river is a beautiful ecological system teeming with life. The only thing that could possibly live in that toxic water is pathogens that are now resistant to all known antibiotics.
Both the nation and the food supply is poisoned, and the lovely ladies who have given us such wonderful sex are at high risk of future suffering and early death.
And yes Joe, there are some Niu4Bi1 who visit this forum. Glad I could help you discretely point that out.
Robin Mill
04-23-10, 10:10
Will,
I think it's ok to put her facial picture online, so long as it's not a naked picture of her. Not sure how the rule is around here. I don't think that most people will ever get a chance to see her in person anyways because she rarely works and is always going all over the place.
Anyhow, wish i could be there in June, but will be somewhere else around that time. Slowly...i'm trying to recover from the Chang Ping Blues right now. So far...i'm not very successful.
AsnDragonTa-Da.
Here are the much awaited picture of Wen Wen.
Pointpanic, eat your heart out!
I'm heading to CP next week
I've heard that Sauna's in CP are on 'stealth mode', that they are closed to walk-ins, and only open to regulars with appointments?
Does anybody know the status? Any confirmations of Saunas taking walk ins?
Sounds like aside from this, KTV and BBS is operating as usual.
Pointpanic
04-23-10, 15:56
Thank you Will Robin. I'll get her number yet. Just want to photograph her. I guess I'll have to down load my cell phone pics at the same occasion to thank you for sharing yours. Give ma a day or so to dig out my China Mobile and charge it up. Have fun in CP in June.
Point
Ta-Da.
Here are the much awaited picture of Wen Wen.
Pointpanic, eat your heart out!
Will,
You are right, your pictures do not really display how beautiful she is. Here are my pictures, not sure if it makes her look any prettier. But honestly, in person, she is gorgeous. I, Pointpanic and you can all attest to how hot she is in real life. check mine out. She's got very seductive eyes and nice features.
AsnDragon
Ta-Da.
Here are the much awaited picture of Wen Wen.
Pointpanic, eat your heart out!
Had my first KTV experience while I was in China in March. Two days before I came to CP I manage to contact BSD Dave.organise to meet him on the Friday night at Mayflower, but was too tried from the work a week before and the travel that day to stay and party that night. But arange to go the next 3 nights.
Saturday when to Eruasia KTV, Dave was infrom by the people there earlier that day that there will be no flower street and girls will be in street clothes. Dave said that as it is the weekend that there will be alot of other mongers there so we had to be there earlier. Alot of mongers where there before the girls came to work. We all wait for the girls to walk to their change rooms and grab them before they got there. This was THE best part of the whole KTV experience for me, The gils where beautiful, you don't know how many there are as they are just reporting to work and you a completing with other mongers for the best one. This part of selecting the girls I have read about many times in the forum and they say how much fun it is. But trust me it is a experience any man must try in his life time, for me it was as great is the first sexual experience. I left early that night with the girl as I was still tried.
Sunday we when to Fuhao KTV, Had a really great time. They had a flower street in the hall, so many girls in uniform.
Monday Dave take the group to a KTV by a amusement park/5 star hotel. I invited a girl I meet at Fuhao to come with us. No flower street here, girls a shown to us in the rooms.
I have to say that I enjoy my 3 days of KTV. All was possible because of Dave organising everything, the little things to do and not do to get good service and not paid for things that you don't want. Also the most important part was the other mongers he introduce me to like asn dragon, doublefly, and many others, We all got on well and had a great time.
I will be back in August, so Dave how is the naked KTV hunting going.
She's got very seductive eyes and nice features.
Wowzers!!
Can I sponsor her? Is she looking for a husband? How soon can she move into my house? I'm so awestruck. Be still my rapidly beating heart!
SE Asia Joe
04-24-10, 08:34
Wowzers!!
Can I sponsor her? Is she looking for a husband? How soon can she move into my house? I'm so awestruck. Be still my rapidly beating heart!
Hmmmm...!
Bruce - just got back home, not due here for a while
Asn Dragon - June, earliest
Pointpanic - not for at least a few months
Will- still doing back flips
Moi? well, I is due back.... soon, very soon and back again some more.... and that Wen Wen..... hmmmmm....!!
SEAJ
Wowzers!!
Can I sponsor her? Is she looking for a husband? How soon can she move into my house? I'm so awestruck. Be still my rapidly beating heart!
I know of a few guys on ISG that are single. I would guest at least 60% of the guys are single on ISG. The percentages are even higher if you are Chinese.
Where is the line for potential suitors. :) I'm going to cut in line like everyone else does in China.
Dongguan Doug
04-24-10, 12:57
Was looking for some excitement Thursday night before a night out at a KTV so asked my driver to take me to some BBS in Houjie. Took me to a street not far from the Starbucks. As there was the possibility of LE, the girls all stood outside the closed shops. I spoke to a few of the mamasans and inspected the talent. Each shop had 4 or 5 girls standing outside with average or below average looks (but definitively young). 100RMB for one shot or RMB300 for the night. I passed as I was on my way to a KTV. I got the mamasans number and girls can be sent to places in Houjie. PM for her contact details.
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-24-10, 13:36
So I finally went to my first real KTV after almost 5 years in China. I had been a few times to the naked KTVs in Shanghai with a large group of expats but had never gotten the opportunity to go with some factory owners before Thursday night. It was special. We went to the Royal Palace Hotel in Houjie. The manager Sandy (very attractive) was there to organize everything. PM me for her contact info if required. I walked into the room at 8PM and my 3 Chinese partners had already been there since 6. There was another foreigner (another customer of theirs) there with 4 girls sitting with him already. I had a few drinks and the lineups began. Girls with a blue marker on their outfits can be taken home, the others cannot. I picked a very attractive girl from Hubei and spent the next 4 hours drinking with her and playing the dice game. She was a real pro and was really into it – I tried numerous times to put my hand down her pants but was refused every time. She kept asking me if she could go and get changed as the other girls had already put on their street clothes. I wasn't sure at that point whether that meant I had committed to taking her back for the night but finally agreed. My Chinese partners informed me that the rates are as follows: 300 to have her drink with you or 1300 to take her back for the night. Unsure of the quality of service once I agreed to take her back, I convinced her to follow me into the bathroom attached to the KTV room and tried to fuck her there. That would give me an idea as to what could be expected later. She refused as she said she would be fined. 30 seconds after we both went into the bathroom the room attendant knocked on the door.
We had a few more drinks and she asked me again if I wanted her to come back with me for the night. She had somewhat of an attitude so I paid her the 300 and sent her on her way. Taking her back for 1000 to fuck her once and be told she's tired would be a waste, especially after my incredible sauna experience the week before. I needed to go to the sauna.
It was already 1:30AM and my driver picked me up and I went to the Haiyatt Garden Hotel in Houjie. A few friends of mine rave about the sauna there but I had never been. I was brought into a room and shown a lineup of 7 girls. None were attractive and another lineup of 5 or so were shown to me. None really caught my eye and I was told that considering it was already 2AM, the best girls were already off work. The sauna business manager Julia was very helpful. PM me for her contact info.
I decided to go back to the sauna at the Waterfall Garden Hotel as I had been there the week before. I called and was told they close at 4AM. I arrived at the sauna around 2:30 and was shown a lineup of 10. My girl from last time was busy (I was told I would have to wait 30 minutes) and I felt obliged to choose another. I chose a girl for RMB500 (they have ones ranging from 500 to 700) and we proceeded to shower. She was blowing me in the shower when I started to regret my decision to pick this one as her technique and attitude were definitively not comparable to number 268 which I had had the week before. I got out of the shower, picked up the room phone, and called the manager. I told him that this girl wasn't OK and to bring me 268 (as she would have been free by then). I told the girl in my room to get dressed and she did so reluctantly. The manager got there 5 minutes later with number 268 and she entered the room. It was a little awkward as I stood there in a towel with the girl who was getting dressed crying and the girl who had just arrived. I did not know how much I should give the other girl so I asked 268. She recommenced I give the other girl 100 and I did. She left the room crying.
I then spent the next two incredible hours with 268. I fucked her 3 times and she was as amazing as she had been the last time. Of the 100 saunas (give or take) I have been to in China this is the first time I have gotten the same girl twice as I usually prefer diversity and a new experience. This girl is just that amazing. I decided not to sleep there (you have the option if you arrive after 1AM) and stumbled home at 6AM. It was a great night.
DD
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Dongguan Doug,
I have read multiple reports about how you guys get together. I will be in CP from 5/6 to 5/18. Cycling between Pattaya, BKK, Zhuhai, CP, and Macau (or anywhere else I can get good reliable intel on good mongering.). How can I (and 2 other friends) meet up with some of you guys? And perhaps visit a KTV?
Would love to check out a naked KTV is one still exists.
TIA,
Superlun
Meiguoguizi
04-24-10, 23:32
I convinced her to follow me into the bathroom attached to the KTV room and tried to fuck her there. That would give me an idea as to what could be expected later. She refused as she said she would be fined. 30 seconds after we both went into the bathroom the room attendant knocked on the door.
.....
She was blowing me in the shower when I started to regret my decision to pick this one as her technique and attitude were definitively not comparable to number 268 which I had had the week before. I got out of the shower, picked up the room phone, and called the manager. I told him that this girl wasn't OK and to bring me 268 (as she would have been free by then). I told the girl in my room to get dressed and she did so reluctantly. The manager got there 5 minutes later with number 268 and she entered the room. It was a little awkward as I stood there in a towel with the girl who was getting dressed crying and the girl who had just arrived. I did not know how much I should give the other girl so I asked 268. She recommenced I give the other girl 100 and I did. She left the room crying.
Doug, you've really got to come out of your shell and make an effort to express youself.
She was blowing me in the shower when I started to regret my decision to pick this one as her technique and attitude were definitively not comparable to number 268 which I had had the week before. I got out of the shower, picked up the room phone, and called the manager. I told him that this girl wasn't OK and to bring me 268 (as she would have been free by then). I told the girl in my room to get dressed and she did so reluctantly. The manager got there 5 minutes later with number 268 and she entered the room. It was a little awkward as I stood there in a towel with the girl who was getting dressed crying and the girl who had just arrived. I did not know how much I should give the other girl so I asked 268. She recommenced I give the other girl 100 and I did. She left the room crying.
In most suanas if there is a complain by a customer, the girl gets fined.
SE Asia Joe
04-25-10, 06:37
so i finally went to my first real ktv after almost 5 years in china. i had been a few times to the naked ktvs in shanghai with a large group of expats but had never gotten the opportunity to go with some factory owners before thursday night. ........
if i may suggest....and in no way trying to disparage or anything as i see that you probably are unawares...
anyway, perhaps you may want to join the guys in chang ping to experience how ktv's can and should be enjoyed. you see, i've been "entertained" in the past by locals/factory owners etc and it's always not quite as enjoyable as i am never sure how to behave. are they observing me (for achilles heels, for weakness, for ways to approach biz etc), should i truly enjoy myself or be on guard, (for possible "leverage" they cud use etc)... just quite uncomfortable/prefer that i take care of my own expenses etc without being beholden to anybody.
i suggest cp as the costs should be quite minimal - especially if you join up with bs dave as he always try to keep such costs down (circa rmb 400 for the ktv part or less) and the charges in most cases in cp is 2-5-8. your charge at your houjie ktv was i think 3-8-13; your hosts did not mention the short term rate of rmb 800. well in cp, you sit for 200 and you only pay an extra 300 to pop her once - or 600 to keep her overnight. your choice.
second, you do want to go to ktv's early/at the time when others go as then you'd have the most choice of gals and not be left with the left-overs.
third, to try to screw her at the toilet is really bad form - and it's something that most of us frown on as we know some guys try to do so.... to get away with only paying the 200 sitting fee and get serviced. i even know a guy who actually tried [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a gal in the toilet! idiot! like i said, very bad form - but which i know you did not consider as to how it looks to everybody else (and what the gal's reaction is - to get screwed for just the sitting fee - just not on!) and was just trying to "gauge" her.
there are other ways to do this i.e. try asking her straight out what you expect and what she's willing to do, or make indirect remarks on what you expect and really observe her reaction etc etc - but don't try what you tried that night! there are rules and conventions which does get enforced in ktv's - and trying to do what you did that night may end up in you getting in trouble with the mommies/managers/boyfriends etc
just imho and only a suggestion
seaj
Does anyone have some experiences with the possible activities in the "Goodview Hotel Tangxia"?
I'll be there for 2 nights beginning from wednesday the 28th.
After that I move to Guangzhou so, some warm up would be nice.
AF
I think most KTV girls like to think of themselves as non-prostitutes, because they do not work in a sauna or bbs, even though they often go to a guys hotel and get paid money for the sex.
She likes to think she can choose not to go if she does not want to, and therefore is not an, "I'll do anything for money" hooker.
She wants 3 things.
1. She wants you to treat her with respect, like any other normal girl who is looking for her successfull guy with money.
2. She wants some immediate money. Will be "your temporary girlfriend" for money, and hopes you have plenty to give.
3. Wants to get married and have babies, and hopes you are the one, if you have money.
She does not want you to treat her like a cheap w**** and fuck in the shithouse, because it's cheaper than fucking her in your hotel room. She knows she is a poor girl, fucks for money, and is trying to make her way in the world, but, she still wants to maintain her dignity.
To all the ISG brothers,
SEAJOE--I didn't know that wen wen was your type of girl. I thought you usually like the cuter types. But I think you have a good fighting chance...she likes young guys like you. She was Will Robin's girl until I begged him to let me have her....apparently Will is not in shortage of any hot ones.
BruceTea--I didn't know that wen wen is the "brucetea" girl type. But come to think of it, she is kind of your type because she is super skinny.
Will--Will you are a playboy. You jump from one hot chick to the next. You never seem to have problems attracting pretty ones...must be your gymnastics kills.
Pointpanic--Good thing he's not coming back for a while. There's not one girl that's been with Point that doesn't end up loving the guy. I don't know what he says or does in the bedroom but all the girls end up coming out with a smile...like one of those "i'm so in love and that felt so great" kinda smiles.
As for me...i don't have much of a chance. I'm 55 years old, with a wife and four kids...my oldest kid is older than she is. So..chances of her falling for me is close to none. Good thing I had something called...."renminbi" it sure comes in handy when you don't have much else to offer. I don't have SEAJOE's romantic skills, I don't have Bruce's sweet talking skills, I don't have Will's back-flipping skills and I don't have Point's gentleness. So guys...she's all up for grabs!
Weelock, i've never met you in person before...but i'm sure you have a whole lot to offer.
I think Fuhao is lining up for potential suitors.
oh just to let you know...she is Sichuan too!!
But since SEAJOE lives only 1 hour away...I think he's going to win her over with his six-pack abs and his pectoral muscles that make arnold jealous.
AsnDragon
Hmmmm...!
Bruce - just got back home, not due here for a while
Asn Dragon - June, earliest
Pointpanic - not for at least a few months
Will- still doing back flips
Moi? well, I is due back.... soon, very soon and back again some more.... and that Wen Wen..... hmmmmm....!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-26-10, 06:45
To all the ISG brothers,
SEAJOE--I didn't know that wen wen was your type of girl. I thought you usually like the cuter types. But I think you have a good fighting chance...she likes young guys like you. She was Will Robin's girl until I begged him to let me have her....apparently Will is not in shortage of any hot ones.
BruceTea--I didn't know that wen wen is the "brucetea" girl type. But come to think of it, she is kind of your type because she is super skinny.
Will--Will you are a playboy. You jump from one hot chick to the next. You never seem to have problems attracting pretty ones...must be your gymnastics kills.
Pointpanic--Good thing he's not coming back for a while. There's not one girl that's been with Point that doesn't end up loving the guy. I don't know what he says or does in the bedroom but all the girls end up coming out with a smile...like one of those "i'm so in love and that felt so great" kinda smiles.
As for me...i don't have much of a chance. I'm 55 years old, with a wife and four kids...my oldest kid is older than she is. So..chances of her falling for me is close to none. Good thing I had something called...."renminbi" it sure comes in handy when you don't have much else to offer. I don't have SEAJOE's romantic skills, I don't have Bruce's sweet talking skills, I don't have Will's back-flipping skills and I don't have Point's gentleness. So guys...she's all up for grabs!
Weelock, i've never met you in person before...but i'm sure you have a whole lot to offer.
I think Fuhao is lining up for potential suitors.
oh just to let you know...she is Sichuan too!!
But since SEAJOE lives only 1 hour away...I think he's going to win her over with his six-pack abs and his pectoral muscles that make arnold jealous.
AsnDragon
Hey - why don't we just make her "Community property?"
I'll get a hold of her and propose that we each will send her money every month but that she cannot go with anybody except us whoever contributes to her up-keep..... whenever we're there. And if two or more of us are in CP at the same time, she's gonna have to rotate every 8 hours or so.
Whaddya say?
SEAJ
Ps. I propose we need to EXCLUDE Weelock as he tells us that he's too big!! We do NOT want to have a stretched out Wen Wen!!
Pps. Anybody else "too Big?"" Fess up - or we'll need to castrate you if we find out "after the fact."
Ps. I propose we need to EXCLUDE Weelock as he tells us that he's too big!! We do NOT want to have a stretched out Wen Wen!!
Pps. Anybody else "too Big?"" Fess up - or we'll need to castrate you if we find out "after the fact."
I heard you were big and powerful too for a young Swedish guy. :) :).
I want to marry her and keep her for myself .....
Dongguan Doug
04-26-10, 07:44
if i may suggest....and in no way trying to disparage or anything as i see that you probably are unawares...
anyway, perhaps you may want to join the guys in chang ping to experience how ktv's can and should be enjoyed. you see, i've been "entertained" in the past by locals/factory owners etc and it's always not quite as enjoyable as i am never sure how to behave. are they observing me (for achilles heels, for weakness, for ways to approach biz etc), should i truly enjoy myself or be on guard, (for possible "leverage" they cud use etc)... just quite uncomfortable/prefer that i take care of my own expenses etc without being beholden to anybody.
i suggest cp as the costs should be quite minimal - especially if you join up with bs dave as he always try to keep such costs down (circa rmb 400 for the ktv part or less) and the charges in most cases in cp is 2-5-8. your charge at your houjie ktv was i think 3-8-13; your hosts did not mention the short term rate of rmb 800. well in cp, you sit for 200 and you only pay an extra 300 to pop her once - or 600 to keep her overnight. your choice.
second, you do want to go to ktv's early/at the time when others go as then you'd have the most choice of gals and not be left with the left-overs.
third, to try to screw her at the toilet is really bad form - and it's something that most of us frown on as we know some guys try to do so.... to get away with only paying the 200 sitting fee and get serviced. i even know a guy who actually tried [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a gal in the toilet! idiot! like i said, very bad form - but which i know you did not consider as to how it looks to everybody else (and what the gal's reaction is - to get screwed for just the sitting fee - just not on!) and was just trying to "gauge" her.
there are other ways to do this i.e. try asking her straight out what you expect and what she's willing to do, or make indirect remarks on what you expect and really observe her reaction etc etc - but don't try what you tried that night! there are rules and conventions which does get enforced in ktv's - and trying to do what you did that night may end up in you getting in trouble with the mommies/managers/boyfriends etc
just imho and only a suggestion
seajse asia joe,
i appreciate your advice and definitively agree that i should try to get together with some of the guys to get the full ktv experience. as you said, i wasn't quite sure on how to behave and going to a ktv in a no pressure environment will definitively make it more of an enjoyable experience.
i was unaware of the protocol concerning the washroom and simply wanted to get a sampling of what was in store for me later in the night – i would have been more than happy to pay her an extra 500 for a quick romp in the bathroom before committing to spend 1000 for a quick romp in my room. plus, i was in the frame of thought that anyone into that sort of thing would be a crazy fuck as opposed to the dead fish stories i've heard of many ktv girls. but i was very drunk and did not know what i was doing and will be sure to do it differently next time around.
dd
SE Asia Joe
04-26-10, 07:47
I heard you were big and powerful too for a young Swedish guy. :) :).
I want to marry her and keep her for myself .....
Now we DEFINITELY ain't gonna include you.
None of this possessiveness amongst the bros - and remember its always bros before hoes (except when it applies to me of course!)
SEAJ
Dongguan Doug
04-26-10, 11:49
I was having a stressful day at the office and feeling a little down with this rain so I went to the sauna this afternoon at the Haiyatt Garden Hotel in Houjie. I was greeted on the 5th floor by the Promotion Supervisor Lu Lu who asked me what I wanted. Only “sauna” was needed and I was led to a room to relax. They brought in the first lineup of 5 and I wasn't very impressed. I chose number 78 from Harbin from the second lineup. She had a traditional Harbin frame and was quite done up. You can never tell how big their tits really are with the ridiculous push up bras they all wear. When I picked her I thought she would have big tits and they were very average sized once the bra was removed.
We proceeded to the shower, she blew me in the shower and I came all over her tits. We went back to the bed and I fucked her doggy style for 10 minutes before coming a second time. We lied on the bed talking about nothing of interest until I fucked her a third time. After the second time and before the third time she complained almost the entire time about how big I was, how it hurt her, how she wouldn't be able to accept another customer for the rest of the day, etc... I really don't like when that's all they have to talk about considering I'm not that big and am very average. Knowing she was supposedly “in pain” I fucked her a third time, showered, paid 600, and was on my way.
I would definitively not recommend her as she liked to complain and wasn't that great of a fuck.
Of the hundred or so times I've been to saunas, I've never come across a girl with obvious (and big) fake tits. A lot of people don't like that look but I'm into it. Does anyone know if that's findable in Dongguan?
DD
Hey - why don't we just make her "Community property?"
LOL, yeah, property of citizens of the USA, Canada, HK, Taiwan, Pacific Islands, and where else...Singapore, Malaysia, and also Vietnam?? We've got good bros from all over!
And no sabotaging:
NO shaving her so one brother drops out of the group
NO lying to her that onions and garlic make her breasts bigger
NO getting more meat on her so those who like thin ones drop out
NO buying her extra gifts to make the others look bad (if we see her with a NOKIA, we know where THAT came from...)
NO bait and switch, if two or three bros are there, she gets equal rotation time, no substituting her for another of your "regulars"
and NO cutting in line, we don't do what bad habits the locals do.
On a side note, I'm pretty impressed that many brothers don't mind another doing a girl he's done before. I guess that's not that big a deal in CP. But what about a regular or a favorite (not at a gf level or a sponsorship level)? I'm sure there's a few regulars or favorites of a brother and who we would also like to take back and try. I guess if it's discreet, it's no biggie, but if gets leaked out, then perhaps friendships will be strained?
I don't know as I don't care if a regular or a favorite of mine gets biz from my friends. I consider it a nod to my taste if a friend wants or desires a girl I've done or enjoy doing. Besides, there's gotta be others who like "brucetea" girls, right? Right??
SE Asia Joe
04-26-10, 17:43
LOL, yeah, property of citizens of the USA, Canada, HK, Taiwan, Pacific Islands, and where else...Singapore, Malaysia, and also Vietnam?? We've got good bros from all over!
And no sabotaging:
NO shaving her so one brother drops out of the group
NO lying to her that onions and garlic make her breasts bigger
NO getting more meat on her so those who like thin ones drop out
NO buying her extra gifts to make the others look bad (if we see her with a NOKIA, we know where THAT came from...)
NO bait and switch, if two or three bros are there, she gets equal rotation time, no substituting her for another of your "regulars"
and NO cutting in line, we don't do what bad habits the locals do.
Hey.... NO PROBLEMO!!!
I'll be on hand at all times to ensure she toes the line!
Honest!
Fact is, I'll be on hand at all times to ensure quality service and goods!
On a side note, I'm pretty impressed that many brothers don't mind another doing a girl he's done before. I guess that's not that big a deal in CP. But what about a regular or a favorite (not at a gf level or a sponsorship level)? I'm sure there's a few regulars or favorites of a brother and who we would also like to take back and try. I guess if it's discreet, it's no biggie, but if gets leaked out, then perhaps friendships will be strained?
I don't know as I don't care if a regular or a favorite of mine gets biz from my friends. I consider it a nod to my taste if a friend wants or desires a girl I've done or enjoy doing. Besides, there's gotta be others who like "brucetea" girls, right? Right??
Interesting "side note" for as I think about it and look back, I've not had any qualms about having any bros do SOME of my regulars - even going as far as practically pimping them out to some bros, whilst for OTHER regulars, I did sort of feel queezy/anxious knowing that a bros is doing/wanting to do her.
Each "relationship" is different for me I guess.... but nonetheless, it's an interesting "side note."
Don't really know myself what makes "my reaction" over one gal different from another.
SEAJ
Guys,
I gotta agree with SEAJOE here. Some regulars are alright to pass around to other brothers. But some regulars, that you've developed an emotional attachment to are not that easy to pass around. We all become reluctant to let other bros have them because there's something special that you've developed with her. It's the worst feeling when you are having lunch with other bros, and one of them says..."OH! I did your girl before!" especially when you sort of like her.
Now Bruce--There are some bros here that do mind passing around a girl. I've witnessed this happen before. Which is nothing out of the ordinary if you the guy likes the girl. If a bro asks me to back off a girl cause he really likes her, then i'll back off. There's plenty of fishes out there. But somewhere along the way, there's always a special girl who you just can't give up. Either she likes you, or at least pretends to like you, and you develop some emotional attachment with her, or she's just THAT good in bed or...she's new to the game. I know some guys who catch girls who are new to this trade and they are their first customer, and they want to continue that feeling of "freshness" or "un-jadedness" that they refuse to pass her along to other people. I even know some brothers who are possessive of the girl while they are in China...and nobody can touch his girl, but when he leaves...he says it's fair game for everyone.
So..SEAJOE still has the best chance...he's the swedish vulture that circles the girl and is always ready for the attack. j/k
I wonder...if wen wen becomes communal property..will she end up speaking fluent english after a few weeks or months? or will she become multi-lingual from bros who come from all over?
Well sooner or later...we all become "cum brothers" one time or other. There's gotta be one girl that we all end up doing and end up cumming in her. it's the seven degrees of separation.
AsnDragon
Hey.... NO PROBLEMO!!!
I'll be on hand at all times to ensure she toes the line!
Honest!
Fact is, I'll be on hand at all times to ensure quality service and goods!
Interesting "side note" for as I think about it and look back, I've not had any qualms about having any bros do SOME of my regulars - even going as far as practically pimping them out to some bros, whilst for OTHER regulars, I did sort of feel queezy/anxious knowing that a bros is doing/wanting to do her.
Each "relationship" is different for me I guess.... but nonetheless, it's an interesting "side note."
Don't really know myself what makes "my reaction" over one gal different from another.
SEAJ
Dongguan Doug,
I must say that I am very impressed with your stamina. I don't see how anyone can do a girl 3 times within a less than 90 minute time frame. I have a hard time trying to get two times out in a sauna session. But you were able to squeeze three out is incredible. I mean if a sauna session is 90 minutes. You need about 10 minutes to shower in the end, that's about a 80 minute session. So you getting in 3 pops is like averaging one pop every 23 minutes. I don't know how guys do it. but I am impressed.
I don't know why your girl wanted to complain the third time. If you are already doing her, you are going to keep doing her until you come. So if she were smarter, then she would have just not complained, and try to make you feel more comfortable so you could finish as soon as possible. Oh well, Dongbei girls sometimes are like that. They don't think before they talk, they talk and don't think. Always more rough, but more direct in their personalities.
AsnDragon
I was having a stressful day at the office and feeling a little down with this rain so I went to the sauna this afternoon at the Haiyatt Garden Hotel in Houjie. I was greeted on the 5th floor by the Promotion Supervisor Lu Lu who asked me what I wanted. Only “sauna” was needed and I was led to a room to relax. They brought in the first lineup of 5 and I wasn't very impressed. I chose number 78 from Harbin from the second lineup. She had a traditional Harbin frame and was quite done up. You can never tell how big their tits really are with the ridiculous push up bras they all wear. When I picked her I thought she would have big tits and they were very average sized once the bra was removed.
We proceeded to the shower, she blew me in the shower and I came all over her tits. We went back to the bed and I fucked her doggy style for 10 minutes before coming a second time. We lied on the bed talking about nothing of interest until I fucked her a third time. After the second time and before the third time she complained almost the entire time about how big I was, how it hurt her, how she wouldn't be able to accept another customer for the rest of the day, etc... I really don't like when that's all they have to talk about considering I'm not that big and am very average. Knowing she was supposedly “in pain” I fucked her a third time, showered, paid 600, and was on my way.
I would definitively not recommend her as she liked to complain and wasn't that great of a fuck.
Of the hundred or so times I've been to saunas, I've never come across a girl with obvious (and big) fake tits. A lot of people don't like that look but I'm into it. Does anyone know if that's findable in Dongguan?
DD
I only posted a picture of this other cute girl because it's a profile view. So many people will not be able to recognize her. Well nobody will recognize her as she's not been in the trade for many many years. Was one of those short time girls who got tricked into this trade by her useless boyfriend.
But she was one of the cutest girls i've ever seen. And i've seen a lot of girls...not quite as much as other bros on the board like SEAJOE, SANTA, Wadman, OAH etc....but still..quite a lot of girls. If any brothers see a girl like this...please send her along my way...i'll give any brother a handsome reward.
AsnDragon
Mit Fo Lfe
04-26-10, 19:08
Guys,
I have to agree with SEAJOE here. Some regulars are alright to pass around to other brothers. But some regulars, that you've developed an emotional attachment to are not that easy to pass around. We all become reluctant to let other bros have them because there's something special that you've developed with her. It's the worst feeling when you are having lunch with other bros, and one of them says. "OH! I did your girl before! " especially when you sort of like her.
Now Bruce-There are some bros here that do mind passing around a girl. I've witnessed this happen before. Which is nothing out of the ordinary if you the guy likes the girl. If a bro asks me to back off a girl cause he really likes her, then I'll back off. There's plenty of fishes out there. But somewhere along the way, there's always a special girl who you just can't give up. Either she likes you, or at least pretends to like you, and you develop some emotional attachment with her, or she's just THAT good in bed or. She's new to the game. I know some guys who catch girls who are new to this trade and they are their first customer, and they want to continue that feeling of "freshness" or "un-jadedness" that they refuse to pass her along to other people. I even know some brothers who are possessive of the girl while they are in China. And nobody can touch his girl, but when he leaves. He says it's fair game for everyone.
AsnDragonAgreed. I don't mind sharing but am a little reluctant to share esp if I've spent an extended amount of time with her. Then again. I do like to repeat as BSD and Jetsetter can attest to this. If a friend wants to try. Why not just ask.
Matsui San
04-26-10, 20:25
[QUOTE=Dongguan Doug]Unsure of the quality of service once I agreed to take her back, I convinced her to follow me into the bathroom attached to the KTV room and tried to fuck her there. That would give me an idea as to what could be expected later. She refused as she said she would be fined. 30 seconds after we both went into the bathroom the room attendant knocked on the door.
EDITOR'S NOTE: [blue]I assure you if you tried this shit in mob run KTVs like in dongbei or Chongqing, you will get beat up til comatose and left for dead in a back alley somewhere. You are one fcked up prick trying to ruin it for everyone else.
ManonsanBoy
04-26-10, 21:23
Was at Tangxia Goodview sauna sunday. Had an unusual sauna experience.
She was stunning when she walked into the room. The other 5 girls may as well not be there. From Hubei, says she is 18. Slim and tall, with just the right amount of padding. Probably a 34.
Started as usual with shower and scrub down. Uses my erect penis as a dildo and inserted it into her c*** about an inch and squeezed my bottom of my shaft. Almost made me cum; then she stops and licks the glans. BBBJ until come but she put her finger (with cover and KY) up my bum before I came. Very intense orgasm.
In the bed, kisses every where including lips. Then she REQUESTED DATY! OK. Done. She appears to come and demanded I entered her quickly, bareback! She seems to come and pushes me off. Then another 10 mins of BBBJ and when I am good and hard, she REQUESTED anal action. Done. I had to pull out eventually (and washed) and she had an oral creampie (no hands in the end) with some of the best bbbj I have ever had.
I wanted to rest and she snuggled up and I actually slept.
Very unusual service.
Fast Eddie 48
04-26-10, 22:25
Was at Tangxia Goodview sauna Sunday. Had an unusual sauna experience.
She was stunning when she walked into the room. The other 5 girls may as well not be there. From Hubei, says she is 18. Slim and tall, with just the right amount of padding. Probably a 34.
Started as usual with shower and scrub down. Uses my erect penis as a dildo and inserted it into her c*** about an inch and squeezed my bottom of my shaft. Almost made me cum; then she stops and licks the glans. BBBJ until come but she put her finger (with cover and KY) up my bum before I came. Very intense orgasm.
In the bed, kisses every where including lips. Then she REQUESTED DATY! OK. Done. She appears to come and demanded I entered her quickly, bareback! She seems to come and pushes me off. Then another 10 mins of BBBJ and when I am good and hard, she REQUESTED anal action. Done. I had to pull out eventually (and washed) and she had an oral creampie (no hands in the end) with some of the best BBBJ I have ever had.
I wanted to rest and she snuggled up and I actually slept.
Very unusual service.
To Mansonanboy,
I don't think I like a sauna WG take control like that, you are a paying customer not her you should be the boss tell her what to do, I hope that you didn't did her bareback that is too danger.
Fast Eddie 48
In the bed, kisses every where including lips. Then she REQUESTED DATY! OK. Done. She appears to come and demanded I entered her quickly, bareback! She seems to come and pushes me off. Then another 10 mins of BBBJ and when I am good and hard, she REQUESTED anal action. Done. I had to pull out eventually (and washed) and she had an oral creampie (no hands in the end) with some of the best bbbj I have ever had.
I wanted to rest and she snuggled up and I actually slept.
Very unusual service.
I wonder how many other guys she has done bareback. You should see a doctor now.
Anyway for that kind of extra unusual service, I would give an extremely, extremely large tip.
Dongguan Doug
04-27-10, 03:39
Was at Tangxia Goodview sauna sunday. Had an unusual sauna experience.
She was stunning when she walked into the room. The other 5 girls may as well not be there. From Hubei, says she is 18. Slim and tall, with just the right amount of padding. Probably a 34.
Started as usual with shower and scrub down. Uses my erect penis as a dildo and inserted it into her c*** about an inch and squeezed my bottom of my shaft. Almost made me cum; then she stops and licks the glans. BBBJ until come but she put her finger (with cover and KY) up my bum before I came. Very intense orgasm.
In the bed, kisses every where including lips. Then she REQUESTED DATY! OK. Done. She appears to come and demanded I entered her quickly, bareback! She seems to come and pushes me off. Then another 10 mins of BBBJ and when I am good and hard, she REQUESTED anal action. Done. I had to pull out eventually (and washed) and she had an oral creampie (no hands in the end) with some of the best bbbj I have ever had.
I wanted to rest and she snuggled up and I actually slept.
Very unusual service.This is very unusual service and I will surely be making the trip there to experience this myself. Do you remember what number she was?
DD
Dongguan Doug
04-27-10, 08:02
Dongguan Doug,
I must say that I am very impressed with your stamina. I don't see how anyone can do a girl 3 times within a less than 90 minute time frame. I have a hard time trying to get two times out in a sauna session. But you were able to squeeze three out is incredible. I mean if a sauna session is 90 minutes. You need about 10 minutes to shower in the end, that's about a 80 minute session. So you getting in 3 pops is like averaging one pop every 23 minutes. I don't know how guys do it. but I am impressed.
I don't know why your girl wanted to complain the third time. If you are already doing her, you are going to keep doing her until you come. So if she were smarter, then she would have just not complained, and try to make you feel more comfortable so you could finish as soon as possible. Oh well, Dongbei girls sometimes are like that. They don't think before they talk, they talk and don't think. Always more rough, but more direct in their personalities.
AsnDragonAsndragon,
Thank you for the compliments. All of the saunas I have been to in Dongguan are for 2 hours so 3 pops isn't that hard to do. It really depends on the girl with me. I usually get one in the shower, another one 20 or so minutes after that, and another an hour after that one. Again, it really depends on a few factors including how crazy the girl is (the crazier the better), how hot she is (I find some to be super hot when clothed but when naked are not as attractive. They appear to have big tits in the lineup but when the push up bra comes off I'm a little disappointed), and if I've had more than a few drinks beforehand.
You're 100% right about Dongbei girls. Just more rough and direct than others. It can be great when you find a crazy one that loves to fuck, but with one that complains it is definitively not enjoyable.
DD
We proceeded to the shower, she blew me in the shower and I came all over her tits. We went back to the bed and I fucked her doggy style for 10 minutes before coming a second time. We lied on the bed talking about nothing of interest until I fucked her a third time. After the second time and before the third time she complained almost the entire time about how big I was, how it hurt her, how she wouldn't be able to accept another customer for the rest of the day, etc... I really don't like when that's all they have to talk about considering I'm not that big and am very average. Knowing she was supposedly “in pain” I fucked her a third time, showered, paid 600, and was on my way.
I would definitively not recommend her as she liked to complain and wasn't that great of a fuck.
DD
In most saunas it's only 1 pop and it's over. If there is still time, the girls might give you a lame massage. For the second pop it depends on the girl and the sauna. Getting a third pop is unusual. I think she has the right to complain for the third pop and she could have said NO. Two pops might have been the limit. She might have done you a favorite with the 3 pop but you don't think so.
Trying to fuck a girl in a bathroom is possible but it depends on the girl. Majority will NOT do it. Any bathroom especially Chinese bathrooms are not the cleanest place. Furthermore, some girl will NOT sleep with a guy even after you pick her. Some will only sit, drink, talk and be your companion for the night. You have to find out in 15 minutes. She might first say yes, then change her mind later. She might tell you she doesn 't like you for some reason later. You have to pay her the "sitting fee" for the night and sleep alone. You said it was your first KTV.
In another one of your report, most likely you had a girl fined for you complaining about her bad service in a sauna. She cried leaving your room.
It seems like you have high expectations, please be careful.
One Eyed Man
04-28-10, 02:53
Any bathroom especially Chinese bathrooms are not the cleanest place.
Especially when the girls climb up on top of the toilet seat with their shoes on so that they can squat instead of just sitting on the ring.
SE Asia Joe
04-28-10, 06:28
In most saunas it's only 1 pop and it's over. If there is still time, the girls might give you a lame massage. For the second pop it depends on the girl and the sauna. Getting a third pop is unusual. I think she has the right to complain for the third pop and she could have said NO. Two pops might have been the limit. She might have done you a favorite with the 3 pop but you don't think so.
Trying to fuck a girl in a bathroom is possible but it depends on the girl. Majority will NOT do it. Any bathroom especially Chinese bathrooms are not the cleanest place. Furthermore, some girl will NOT sleep with a guy even after you pick her. Some will only sit, drink, talk and be your companion for the night. You have to find out in 15 minutes. She might first say yes, then change her mind later. She might tell you she doesn 't like you for some reason later. You have to pay her the sitting fee for the night and sleep alone. You said it was your first KTV.
In another one of your report, most likely you had a girl fined for you complaining about her bad service in a sauna. She cried leaving your room.
It seems like you have high expectations, please be careful.
NO - IMHO, 2 pops is standard for most Saunas in China. It's just a matter of asking for it and it should be pretty well par for the course.
If you have not been getting 2 pops regularly....well.....!!!
And as far as a gal NOT wanting to screw with you after you pick her - it depends on when you first pick her up; was she identified as being a "no go" (on the rag, just will not go etc) or a "yes, I'm available to go out." There is no 2 ways about this and the Mommy/manager/gals ALL know that as soon as she's got the tag that identifies her as being OK to go, their "rules" states that there's no way that she can back out. She does that and she'll get a dressing down, a fine and even a beating.
And that is nonsense about her having to be paid if she refuses to go with you....at whatever juncture in the evening. Her tag says she is ready to go, she don't go, you complain to the Mommy. Now, of course this becomes a judgement call - for if you do stand up for your rights and enforce her going out.... nobody can say anything about the actual service!!
Hmmmmm... High expectations... Low expectations!! Whatever!!
Just IMHO
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
04-28-10, 06:33
[QUOTE=Dongguan Doug]Unsure of the quality of service once I agreed to take her back, I convinced her to follow me into the bathroom attached to the KTV room and tried to fuck her there. That would give me an idea as to what could be expected later. She refused as she said she would be fined. 30 seconds after we both went into the bathroom the room attendant knocked on the door.
EDITOR'S NOTE: [blue]I assure you if you tried this shit in mob run KTVs like in dongbei or Chongqing, you will get beat up til comatose and left for dead in a back alley somewhere. You are one fcked up prick trying to ruin it for everyone else.
Hey - what's with the harsh words?
Come on MS, cool it will ya?
Thanks
SEAJ
Especially when the girls climb up on top of the toilet seat with their shoes on so that they can squat instead of just sitting on the ring.
Is that what it is?? Every time I go to a KTV bathroom, I see black marks on the toilet seats. I wonder what the fuk that was...I mean, why would there be dirt and marks on the toilet seat?? And what's with the wet floor? Do guys just miss the toilet bowl and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the floor? Or do girls squat up on the seat but [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) flies to the ground? Yeah, I can see how screwing, even a BJ, in the bathroom of the KTV is really gross...
[QUOTE=Dongguan Doug]Unsure of the quality of service once I agreed to take her back, I convinced her to follow me into the bathroom attached to the KTV room and tried to fuck her there. That would give me an idea as to what could be expected later. She refused as she said she would be fined. 30 seconds after we both went into the bathroom the room attendant knocked on the door.
EDITOR'S NOTE: [blue]I assure you if you tried this shit in mob run KTVs like in dongbei or Chongqing, you will get beat up til comatose and left for dead in a back alley somewhere. You are one fcked up prick trying to ruin it for everyone else.
Dongguan Doug did make a stupid drunken mistake trying to do her in the toilet. But, too much drink and a hard-on will do that to a fella. And in some KTVs that could get him into trouble. However, no need for the harsh language.
is that what it is?? every time i go to a ktv bathroom, i see black marks on the toilet seats. i wonder what the fuk that was...i mean, why would there be dirt and marks on the toilet seat?? and what's with the wet floor? do guys just miss the toilet bowl and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the floor? or do girls squat up on the seat but [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) flies to the ground? yeah, i can see how screwing, even a bj, in the bathroom of the ktv is really gross...
wow, you guys are talking about my pet fetish. many years ago i saw a french made vietnamese movie called cyclo, which means bicycle driver. in it an old man pays a beautiful young prostitute to let him watch her take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). since then i have been fascinated by that scene and try to duplicate it whenever i can. most girls will not let you watch them [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). however, i pretend i am not watching. i will watch in the mirror while brushing my teeth, and maybe drop something on the floor and slowly pick it up while she is peeing, so as to get a good look. it is best if she stands on the lid and squats, which they sometimes do.
i have never offered extra money to watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), but in the future i might.
it's just a weird fetish that i enjoy. maybe it's because when we were kids a woman would never let you watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), and now it is possible.
Jettsetter
04-28-10, 09:20
I only posted a picture of this other cute girl because it's a profile view. So many people will not be able to recognize her. Well nobody will recognize her as she's not been in the trade for many many years. Was one of those short time girls who got tricked into this trade by her useless boyfriend.
But she was one of the cutest girls i've ever seen. And i've seen a lot of girls...not quite as much as other bros on the board like SEAJOE, SANTA, Wadman, OAH etc....but still..quite a lot of girls. If any brothers see a girl like this...please send her along my way...i'll give any brother a handsome reward.
AsnDragon
I know a girl that looks like that... but tell me about her body type.. the one I know of is a big "bigger" than most gals... big chest, but also not a petite gal... but by no means "fat" by our western standards... however, bigger than most of the working gals out there... I have her contact info... she's got a great attitude and a fun gal.
PS: AsnDragon.. have we met? I could've sworn I met you, but from your description of yourself... it seems that I may have the wrong guy in mind...
Jettsetter
04-28-10, 09:34
Went to FH the past week (my 5th time in the week i was there)... and had my regular non-working gal "away" hanging out with a friend. She was going to stop by the K later to have a few drinks then leave. I was there to see an old friend for a bit, drink a little...
Well, seeing the open window of opportunity, I decided to get a gal I have been meaning to try to sit then do a quickie room before my girlfriend was coming...
With the window, I went up and did my thing, and lo and behold ,before I was done, my girlfriend shows up.. mind you I didn't tell her what room we were in but she figured it out...
My good wingmen covered for me, came up with a good story, we all collaborated via phone and texts and all was good.
Thanks for the save guy... in the end, we're all dogs haha... and I know what you guys are going to say about bringing sand to the beach, but I'd rather go to the beach with some sand then not go to the beach at all, which is what I was left with by that time...
Mind you this wasn't day 1.. this was like day 9 in CP... and I had already had lots and lots of sand by that week... we're talking sand castles... sand all over the place... so it was no big deal whether I got new sand or not... however, I just couldn't resist being bad.
BTW: Girl i took up was great.. .very accomodating... since i had a "relationship" with her, never did her, but knew her, had flirted before, and had her digits, we already were working on a good sexual tension that had to be cut that night... :)
Thus far... my trip to CP was as memorable as ever... as we always say.. we have rushed to relax lots in the last week... found some new gems... avoided drama, and actually spent a night in a KTV without a girl and without taking one home... it was my "cleansing experience"... hahaha... actually i was just tired and had no bullets to give...
I did end up calling someone early in the morning so it wasn't wasted after all... bullets reloaded by about 9 a.m.
I'll be in SZ for the coming week or two... ready to head up to CP to meet up with fellow brothers anytime... just let me know if advance.
-J
SE Asia Joe
04-28-10, 09:50
wow, you guys are talking about my pet fetish. many years ago i saw a french made vietnamese movie called cyclo, which means bicycle driver. in it an old man pays a beautiful young prostitute to let him watch her take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). since then i have been fascinated by that scene and try to duplicate it whenever i can. most girls will not let you watch them [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). however, i pretend i am not watching. i will watch in the mirror while brushing my teeth, and maybe drop something on the floor and slowly pick it up while she is peeing, so as to get a good look. it is best if she stands on the lid and squats, which they sometimes do.
i have never offered extra money to watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), but in the future i might.
it's just a weird fetish that i enjoy. maybe it's because when we were kids a woman would never let you watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), and now it is possible.
now i'm grossed out!!
is that what you were doing whilst i was peeing - and it wasn't only once you drop one thing or another when i was doing my thing!
gros gross gross!!!
seaj
Dongguan Doug
04-28-10, 18:00
NO - IMHO, 2 pops is standard for most Saunas in China. It's just a matter of asking for it and it should be pretty well par for the course.
If you have not been getting 2 pops regularly....well.....!!!
SEAJI agree with you that 2 pops is standard but I have never been refused 3 (the first is usually in the shower for me). The girls usually say something along the lines of me being very "lihai" when I'm ready to go for my third but all go along with it and never say no. In my experiences where I only had 2, it usually was a factor of the girl complaining I was too big or just not being in a good mood which resulted in me not being interested to do her more than twice. This could just be my experiences but I feel as though 3 pops is always on the table at the 2 hour saunas.
DD
Matsui San
04-28-10, 20:03
[quote=matsui san]
dongguan doug did make a stupid drunken mistake trying to do her in the toilet. but, too much drink and a hard-on will do that to a fella. and in some ktvs that could get him into trouble. however, no need for the harsh language.the only time authorities clamp down on this mongering activity besides nationwide campaign or some big shot in town, is when something untoward happens, like a wg dead from od, or ****d girl dead from rough sex or like in yiwu, some arabs forcibly anal-fcked a wg or in guangzhou where an african forcibly had sex without rubber on a wg.
when something outside the norm happened, it ruins it for everyone else.
Mit Fo Lfe
04-28-10, 21:01
Went to FH the past week (my 5th time in the week i was there)... and had my regular non-working gal "away" hanging out with a friend. She was going to stop by the K later to have a few drinks then leave. I was there to see an old friend for a bit, drink a little...
Well, seeing the open window of opportunity, I decided to get a gal I have been meaning to try to sit then do a quickie room before my girlfriend was coming...
With the window, I went up and did my thing, and lo and behold ,before I was done, my girlfriend shows up.. mind you I didn't tell her what room we were in but she figured it out...
My good wingmen covered for me, came up with a good story, we all collaborated via phone and texts and all was good.
Thanks for the save guy... in the end, we're all dogs haha... and I know what you guys are going to say about bringing sand to the beach, but I'd rather go to the beach with some sand then not go to the beach at all, which is what I was left with by that time...
Mind you this wasn't day 1.. this was like day 9 in CP... and I had already had lots and lots of sand by that week... we're talking sand castles... sand all over the place... so it was no big deal whether I got new sand or not... however, I just couldn't resist being bad.
BTW: Girl i took up was great.. .very accomodating... since i had a "relationship" with her, never did her, but knew her, had flirted before, and had her digits, we already were working on a good sexual tension that had to be cut that night... :)
Thus far... my trip to CP was as memorable as ever... as we always say.. we have rushed to relax lots in the last week... found some new gems... avoided drama, and actually spent a night in a KTV without a girl and without taking one home... it was my "cleansing experience"... hahaha... actually i was just tired and had no bullets to give...
I did end up calling someone early in the morning so it wasn't wasted after all... bullets reloaded by about 9 a.m.
I'll be in SZ for the coming week or two... ready to head up to CP to meet up with fellow brothers anytime... just let me know if advance.
-Jballsy J.
Definately got some ganaz.
Meiguoguizi
04-29-10, 02:21
wow, you guys are talking about my pet fetish... maybe it's because when we were kids a woman would never let you watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).
wow, i guess i'd better start draining the lizard in front of my daughter. don't want her to grow-up all screwed up.
wow, you guys are talking about my pet fetish. many years ago i saw a french made vietnamese movie called cyclo, which means bicycle driver. in it an old man pays a beautiful young prostitute to let him watch her take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). since then i have been fascinated by that scene and try to duplicate it whenever i can. most girls will not let you watch them [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). however, i pretend i am not watching. i will watch in the mirror while brushing my teeth, and maybe drop something on the floor and slowly pick it up while she is peeing, so as to get a good look. it is best if she stands on the lid and squats, which they sometimes do.
i have never offered extra money to watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), but in the future i might.
it's just a weird fetish that i enjoy. maybe it's because when we were kids a woman would never let you watch her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), and now it is possible.
well, girls peeing doesn't really do it for me, although every now and then, i do enjoy peeing on the girl. as for asking them if they can watch, i don't think they care and i would think this would be one of those things that the vast majority would agree to. this is a common fetish in japan. then again, you're talking about a country where you can buy used panties from vending machines.
there's even a funnier one, it's guys who get turned on by girls who have to go to the bathroom. they call it "omorashi." there's a youtube video of a game show where the contestants drink water and jump rope, and the winner is the girl who can hold it in the longest without pissing herself. i can't understand anything they're saying, but it's funny as hell. the video on youtube is like, 10% of the whole thing. the girl in purple shorts is the first one out and the girl in blue wins.
link to youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bkhw0h1orq
as for women not letting us watch them [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) when we were kids.... i spent my early childhood in asia, i saw it all the time.
On a side note, I'm pretty impressed that many brothers don't mind another doing a girl he's done before.
A woman's pussy is like a warm toilet seat. It's really nice and comfortable, but you're always wondering who was there before you.
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as for women not letting us watch them [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) when we were kids.... i spent my early childhood in asia, i saw it all the time.
irish catholic here.
had i seen a woman taking a peepee, i would have needed to go to confession, to ask father ________ for forgiveness. fortunately, i had no need for forgiveness.
i often saw the farm animals in ireland having a good peepee, but somehow that never aroused my interest or passions. others may be luckier than i, but cows and goats don't excite me.
a beautiful naked young lady squatting on top of a toilet seat, looking down while having a peepee, now that is a wonderful sight to behold.
now i'm grossed out!!
is that what you were doing whilst i was peeing - and it wasn't only once you drop one thing or another when i was doing my thing!
gros gross gross!!!
seaj
some of the girls told me they know a young swedish guy called joe who has a "blond haired rooster". "jin1fa4 gong1ji1".
i just wanted to find out if it is or is not a myth.
SE Asia Joe
04-29-10, 09:18
Some of the girls told me they know a Swedish guy called Joe who has a "Blond Haired Rooster". "Jin1Fa4 Gong1Ji1".
I just wanted to find out if it IS or IS NOT a myth.
And what did you find out?
Is it my crowning/crowing glory or not?
SEAJ
Pointpanic
04-29-10, 13:11
irish catholic here.
had i seen a woman taking a peepee, i would have needed to go to confession, to ask father ________ for forgiveness. fortunately, i had no need for forgiveness.
i often saw the farm animals in ireland having a good peepee, but somehow that never aroused my interest or passions. others may be luckier than i, but cows and goats don't excite me.
a beautiful naked young lady squatting on top of a toilet seat, looking down while having a peepee, now that is a wonderful sight to behold.
this is too funny. gotta contribute. confession: about half of the girls i have had the pleasure of knowing in cp have sat on the seat, on the rim or squatted above either, smiled at me while doing their business wiped up and threw the used tissue in the basket instead of the toilet and jumped in the shower while i brushed my teeth and watched. about 10% would come back out of the shower to hold junior while i peed, squeezed the last drop out and giggled while i flushed. no wonder their public facilities stink. that's so the midnight soil doesn't clutter up the fields. they hit the bowl when you are watching but i have seen girls in the ktv spray all over.
the only time they threw me out was if they needed to take a dump and wouldn't let me back in until they showered and cleared the air. that tp went in the toilet. i always take a shower with them and make sure i clean their privates very well. nothing like sticking a soapy finger up there to see how they react! our young swede should like this report! bruce t and azn dragon should skip this one.
SE Asia Joe
04-29-10, 13:14
has really gone down the shits!!
SEAJ
Jetsetter,
We have met before. It's been a while since we last met though. So perhaps you have forgotten about me.
But in regards to the girl. It's probably not the same girl. This girl in the picture is only about 5 feet 1 inch. She's pretty skinny. Not very big boobs, on the smaller size. probably 32B at best. She's from Xian. So it's probably not the same girl. But in CP many girls tend to look alike when you see so many of them.
AsnDragon
I know a girl that looks like that... but tell me about her body type.. the one I know of is a big "bigger" than most gals... big chest, but also not a petite gal... but by no means "fat" by our western standards... however, bigger than most of the working gals out there... I have her contact info... she's got a great attitude and a fun gal.
PS: AsnDragon.. have we met? I could've sworn I met you, but from your description of yourself... it seems that I may have the wrong guy in mind...
point,
so i went into a sex shop in cp with a girl. she and i both saw these rubber condom looking things, but they were too small for the penis. so i later on found out that they are rubber roll on for the fingers. now i understand why they even bother to sell that in the sex shop. people use them to explore places that i've never been before.
you are truly a man who's gone where no man as gone before. you and santa really have tried everything and anything.
asndragon
this is too funny. gotta contribute. confession: about half of the girls i have had the pleasure of knowing in cp have sat on the seat, on the rim or squatted above either, smiled at me while doing their business wiped up and threw the used tissue in the basket instead of the toilet and jumped in the shower while i brushed my teeth and watched. about 10% would come back out of the shower to hold junior while i peed, squeezed the last drop out and giggled while i flushed. no wonder their public facilities stink. that's so the midnight soil doesn't clutter up the fields. they hit the bowl when you are watching but i have seen girls in the ktv spray all over.
the only time they threw me out was if they needed to take a dump and wouldn't let me back in until they showered and cleared the air. that tp went in the toilet. i always take a shower with them and make sure i clean their privates very well. nothing like sticking a soapy finger up there to see how they react! our young swede should like this report! bruce t and azn dragon should skip this one.
Jettsetter
04-30-10, 04:55
Jetsetter,
We have met before. It's been a while since we last met though. So perhaps you have forgotten about me.
But in regards to the girl. It's probably not the same girl. This girl in the picture is only about 5 feet 1 inch. She's pretty skinny. Not very big boobs, on the smaller size. probably 32B at best. She's from Xian. So it's probably not the same girl. But in CP many girls tend to look alike when you see so many of them.
AsnDragon
You just confused me with your descriptions of yourself... considering that wasn't my impression for obvious reasons.
Anyways, the girl definitely is not the same then. I thought you were looking for a look-a-like... the one I know is very accommodating... but not someone I would consider a multiple day repeater... that's just me... she's a little clingy actually... but fun for a spin.
I will be back in CP on Monday for a night with an out-of-towner... too much of CP at once is bad for me... I take CP in moderation like most old-timers do...
after about a week straight, it becomes a true blur of the same-ol-same-ol.
Always fun discovery new gems and partying with the regulars...
-J
Jetsetter,
Thanks for the look alike. I just prefer girls who are a little more on the petite side. but thanks for the offer.
Well considering that you went to Fuhao 5 days of the week, i can see how CP can be a bit of a blur. For me, CP cannot be done in moderation. Once i'm there, i'm totally and completely sucked in. I don't feel like going anywhere else, but I do because I need to. You get sick of CP, but you get just as addicted to CP. All it takes is for you to cross the border into HK for about 6 hours and you are itching to re-cross the border once again and take that direct train back up to CP.
Something about CP just has the ability to lure guys back. I'm sure all of the guys who have left are all still waiting...dreaming...wishing to come back once again.
But i do agree with you though, when you leave for a while and then come back to CP, no more than a few days or a week, it does make CP more fun and you do end up appreciating it more. But somehow, once i'm at CP, i just don't want to leave. the fantasy is just too hard to give up.
AsnDragon
You just confused me with your descriptions of yourself... considering that wasn't my impression for obvious reasons.
Anyways, the girl definitely is not the same then. I thought you were looking for a look-a-like... the one I know is very accommodating... but not someone I would consider a multiple day repeater... that's just me... she's a little clingy actually... but fun for a spin.
I will be back in CP on Monday for a night with an out-of-towner... too much of CP at once is bad for me... I take CP in moderation like most old-timers do...
after about a week straight, it becomes a true blur of the same-ol-same-ol.
Always fun discovery new gems and partying with the regulars...
-J
has really gone down the shits!!
SEAJ
Friggin' Swedish blonds always need to bi*tch!!
Trip report
Day 1 – Fuhao KTV
After a grueling 5 days at the Canton fair, I hopped on the train from Canton East station heading to CP Arriving at precisely 9PM. The train was so packed that there is no seats left and there was barely enough room to stand! Immediately I get out of the station and grab a cab heading straight to my hotel to drop off the bags. I stayed at Shang Yuan which is a very nice hotel, but slightly away from the scene. Around the Canton fair time it was 188RMB a night. Inside the room its amazing, easily comparable to Luxor of Vegas.
After dumping my bags off I headed off to meet up with Big Swingin Dave at Fuhao KTV. Upon arriving I found myself in a large dark room with a bunch of people. Met up with Dave and made the proper introductions. Very mixed crowd tonight. At around 9:45PM it was not as easy to pick a girl. The line up was weak; I took Dave’s recommendation and picked the girl that he had prior experience with. Sat down with the girl had a beer or 2 with her to get to know her a little. When 10:45 came rolling by, dance music came up and all the girls got up and took their top off for the special show. The room was happening, guys dancing girls top less and Dave carrying girls to the shift in front of the room. At first the girls were quite embarrassed to get on, but later on they seemed to get used to it. The madness continued for some 15 minutes and before we knew it, it was time to part away and back to our hotels. The damage at the KTV was around 350rmb per head.
I took my girl back to my hotel and the fun begun. After arriving at the hotel we took a quick shower and jumped into bed. She looked very young. I am guessing that back in Fuhao the lights were too dimmed and I couldn’t get a good look. She had a pretty face, very nice waist line but with the exception of having small breasts and tiny nipples. So I went to work starting with the kisses. At first she was slightly unsure of how to react. Maybe she was kind of new but after 10 minutes of foreplay she was getting into the mood. We switched positions, she started on a exceptionally weak bj, in which I interrupted and got her to get on top of me for some CG. After couple minutes, finished in mission. As she went to take a shower, I was so tired from the trip already that literaly I passed out on the bed. She woke me up and we cuddled up and went to sleep.
I woke up around 6 am, feeling refreshed and awake. I started to wonder and found my girl still completely naked next to me. I let me hands wonder and gently woke her up. Skipped the foreplay this time and went into mission, then doggy. She was very responsive. After completing mission #2. I took a shower and rested some more. Woke up and went to breakfast with her around 9am. After breakfast, gave her 850 and she was on her way.
Day 2 – May flower, Night market
Met up with Dave and crew around 12 for lunch. Then went to get a foot massage. Girl that served me was 168, pretty and good body. Ask for that girl if you get the chance to.
Arrived at May flower with dave and the gang around 5:45. Immediately go into the flower street at 6pm sharp. Room was as big as before, with as many girls as before but seems like the quality went down from last year. The room is about the size of 2/3 of a basketball court, 4 lines of girls filled the room. Clients walk in the middle area back and forth until you find a girl. While walking the line the mamasans will try desperately for you to pick the girls that they are offering. Its a pretty good line up. I ended up picking my backup choice as my first one was on her period.
Went into the KTV room had the usual ritual of drinking and gaming. Met some more people, quiet an interesting night. Big Swingin Dave once again keeping the room alive and going. But for some reason I didn't click with my girl. She was nice and new how to play games, looked well and were very friendly. But I just didn't feel it. I have to admit Vince's girl was much prettier.
So after the KTV I decided not to take her back. Instead we grabbed something to eat and went to the night market. By then the market is already pretty empty, low selections and not too high in the scores. i picked one regardless for a quicky. $150rmb. Took her back to my hotel, did the usual thing, showered and went to work, skipped foreplay. She was recommended by Dave. Didn't disappoint. Felt a little mechanical but she knew which buttons and sound to play. After the deed gave her the agreed amount of she was off. Now to get some well deserved sleep.
Day 3 – Peninsula KTV
Penisula KTV sucked. i don't mean that place sucks, its more of an experience that was kind of bitter for me. It will forever haunt me. I usually pick a girl that I like based on looks. But today I picked a girl based on attitude. (I like girls with a little 'bit' of attitude. For example, she can lead so I wouldn't have to.) But that turned out to be a disaster. She was really not taking it from anybody. Out of control LOL. But she had talent. She schooled me and the rest of the guys in dice. Even when we went on 3 guys vs 1....on a game of luck. Picture you getting a full house, she will roll 4 of a kind. You get 2 pairs, she gets 3 of a kind. and so on. Ouch. After KTV sent her home. Decided to venture the Spa in my hotel.
Got to the hotel Spa, but the line up was less than perfect. Actually there was 12 girls and they all were kind of below 6 even in my beer goggles. So called it a night.
Yes doc, you are right. Should have picked the girl that fits into the mold.
Day 4 – Fuhao KTV
Well Day 4 shouldn't have happened. I should have been in Japan by then but instead I decided to delay that trip to opt for 1 more day of party. Which turned out to be the best choice! Had a similar ritual, lunch, massage then arrived at Fuhao at 6PM. Went up the rooms, and picked a girl that was a 'sure thing' as according to Dave. And he was right.
The girl was easily a 7+. Very friendly and playful. Had some boobs but not huge huge. She spoke more English than other girls. Don't quiet remember her name, but do have her digits. The night was an amazing night in Fuhao. Lots of action as everyone was having fun. Literally by the end of the night, 2 girls passed out on the couch and the bar tab was only 380 if I remember correctly.
Bid farwell to the ISG crew this time for sure and ran back to the hotel with my girl. Showered together, got some bbbj in the shower which was quite nice. Got on the bed for some more bbbj and daty. She was very responsive. The moaning sounded a little fake but who cares. Did her in CG and doggy. Took a quick shower and nap time. Woke up in the morning for round 2. Then gave her 900. She is a keeper.
Great trip. Met a bunch of ISG and new friends. Dave is amazing. If you love to party, get hooked up with him!
Thanks Big Swingin Dave, Jetsetter, SE Joe and everyone's handle that I forgot. I am really bad with names.
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Penisula KTV sucked. i don't mean that place sucks, its more of an experience that was kind of bitter for me. It will forever haunt me. I usually pick a girl that I like based on looks. But today I picked a girl based on attitude. (I like girls with a little 'bit' of attitude. For example, she can lead so I wouldn't have to.) But that turned out to be a disaster. She was really not taking it from anybody. Out of control LOL. But she had talent. She schooled me and the rest of the guys in dice. Even when we went on 3 guys vs 1....on a game of luck. Picture you getting a full house, she will roll 4 of a kind. You get 2 pairs, she gets 3 of a kind. and so on. Ouch. After KTV sent her home.
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Sounds like she is one lucky girl at dice. I wonder has she played strip dice before. :) I could she her the only one with cloths on and the rest of the guys naked. :)
What do you mean by, " She was really not taking it from anybody".
Member #1344
05-01-10, 04:51
Anyone going to a KTV tonight? I am going to be in CP for one night and would like to check one out. The last time I went with some ISGers it was a good time. Drop me a PM. I'll check in periodically. Thanks!
Member #1344
05-01-10, 04:56
Just a quick report for the big boob lovers. A few days ago I had a good time with #151 from the Goodview Hotel Sauna in Tangxia. She's 165 cm from Sichuan and has a really big set of soft white boobs. They really make some of the services when they drag their boobs over your body much more fun. She's not fat but does have a little tummy. It's hard to have big boobs and be stick thin. Check her out if you are into boobs.
OldAsiaHand
05-01-10, 05:18
So after the KTV I decided not to take her back. Instead we grabbed something to eat and went to the night market. By then the market is already pretty empty, low selections and not too high in the scores. i picked one regardless for a quicky. $150rmb. Took her back to my hotel, did the usual thing, showered and went to work, skipped foreplay. She was recommended by Dave. Didn't disappoint. Felt a little mechanical but she knew which buttons and sound to play. After the deed gave her the agreed amount of she was off. Now to get some well deserved sleep.
Manatsu,
Glad to see you made it back to CP. Sorry I could not get down there to join the festivities. It seems like ages since I've been to CP and I am only an hour plus away. ISG guys with long haul flights seem to visit more often than I do.
SEAJ is always on my case that Night Market is 130RMB. Did you agree to 150 RMB or just give her 20 RMB tip or taxi money?
OAH
OldAsiaHand
05-01-10, 05:44
I only posted a picture of this other cute girl because it's a profile view. So many people will not be able to recognize her. Well nobody will recognize her as she's not been in the trade for many many years. Was one of those short time girls who got tricked into this trade by her useless boyfriend.
But she was one of the cutest girls i've ever seen. And i've seen a lot of girls...not quite as much as other bros on the board like SEAJOE, SANTA, Wadman, OAH etc....but still..quite a lot of girls. If any brothers see a girl like this...please send her along my way...i'll give any brother a handsome reward.
AsnDragonAsnDragon,
Are you sure she is not still working? Maybe it's just too many girls that they all start to look alike.
I just saw one SW in Panyu last night that looked almost exactly the same.
Just my POV.
OAH
I'm quite new to DG, so if there is someone around, maybe we can hang out and give me a introduction there.
Would be appreciated.
OAH,
You know...from my recollection she does not work anymore in CP. Now girls do have a way of going to other cities and towns to work though. So perhaps you might have seen her again. If she's from Xian, then there's a higher chance it's her.
But after a while...lots of girls start looking alike. Perhaps you can capture of a photo of your SW and we can compare notes.
OAH--never got a chance to hang out with you. I think we were going to meet about 2 years ago, but you were caught up in a meeting in Guangzhou and never made it to CP. Hope to catch you next time.
AsnDragon
AsnDragon,
Are you sure she is not still working? Maybe it's just too many girls that they all start to look alike.
I just saw one SW in Panyu last night that looked almost exactly the same.
Just my POV.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
05-01-10, 09:03
Moody's approach is right on. Don't take mongering too seriously and don't think too much about it. I support the 4F theory. Find, Feel, Fuck, Forget. Oh, and don't forget to pay them.
Just my POV too.
OAH
This is what happens when you think too much about this stuff. That's why it's a good idea to pickle your brain with alcohol so it stops thinking. Just go to KTV, pick a girl, get drunk, have fun. That's it. Whether the fun includes taking the girl back and fucking her, who knows.
Jettsetter
05-02-10, 07:14
I'm quite new to DG, so if there is someone around, maybe we can hang out and give me a introduction there.
Would be appreciated.
there are some guys around... but I think it's probably easiest to get in touch with BSD, and have him introduce you around... We mostly have our own agenda and call him to find out where the party is on any given night...
However, you might want to turn on your PM or give us some way to get in touch with you. Otherwise, you'll be SOL.
-J
Moody's approach is right on. Don't take mongering too seriously and don't think too much about it. I support the 4F theory. Find, Feel, Fuck, Forget. Oh, and don't forget to pay them.
Just my POV too.
OAH
Yes, but, sometimes.....
SE Asia Joe
05-04-10, 06:24
Was in Cp past 4 days and just want to give ya'll a bit of an up-date
Went to Jun Hui at 430 pm last Friday - and there was 1 - YUP, ONE solitary gal and a few mommies hanging around. I only recognized half of the mommies - the rest are brand new and Lower class than prior (if that's possible!!). The mommies claim that the gals now only shows up at around 6 and are more "KTV' gals i/o BBS type - but I somehow smelled something rotten; the previous mommies were very forceful in applying the rule for gals to show up at 3 pm max 5 or get punished/fined and the whole place somehow just felt different.
Went out on SWL and lo and behold, Sammy mommie - the one with the most and best gals at Jun hui dragged me into the alley parallel to Baby's shop into a brand new shop - packed with her gals. No KTV nonsense - just straight up 200/500 BBS. Xiao Ming -every body's favorite and crazy gal was there, supposedly talking to Sammy about becoming a sub-mommie but she jumped on me and away I went with her. Heck, it's at least been a year since I did her - and I figured - what the heck - she was always fun and of course she didn't disappoint this time either.
I also went to the Hui Mei alley and over there, there seems to be a bit of changes too. The corner hotel don't have any rooms operating as a BBS anymore. Coco's shop is closed and the Crazy tall guy has supposedly been told to stay away as he was pissing off too many of us (not 100% sure if this is accurate or not - but I didn't see him). The first shop on the first alley next to ZhongYan Street is now run by Mommie Lai who seems to be a lot more friendly/has a room full of quite acceptable gals and does NOT insist that one must take a gal/gets all pissed off if you don't (like the previous mommie who pissed of S.B. and others) PLUS next to it is another brand new BBS with a few gals run by another ex Jun Hui Mommie - and this is at 150/400 like the rest of the street.
I also noticed that quite a few commercial/regular shops seems to be closing down and being replaced/re-decorated by new tenants - more so than at other usual "month's end"; thus reinforcing my impression that there's a bunch of new enterprises, new operations, new gals, new mommies moving about coinciding with the May Day holidays. I hope all this works out to something better as far as the mongering scene is concerned in CP. especially the BBS's
We'll just have to wait and see
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
05-04-10, 06:32
Moody's approach is right on. Don't take mongering too seriously and don't think too much about it. I support the 4F theory. Find, Feel, Fuck, Forget. Oh, and don't forget to pay them.
Just my POV too.
OAH
THIS..... from one true veteran who's had more than his fair share of once bitten...twice...three.. four etc times shy!!
SEAJ
Transporter
05-04-10, 06:36
I finally can be in CP and actually have a few days to play.
I can't believe it, now just have to figure out what I want to do.
Hopefully have a chance to run across all of you guys this time.
Porter
Robin Mill
05-04-10, 23:25
I also noticed that quite a few commercial/regular shops seems to be closing down and being replaced/re-decorated by new tenants - more so than at other usual "month's end"; thus reinforcing my impression that there's a bunch of new enterprises, new operations, new gals, new mommies moving about coinciding with the May Day holidays. I hope all this works out to something better as far as the mongering scene is concerned in CP. especially the BBS's
We'll just have to wait and see
SEAJ
Thanks SEAJ for the updates!
These information is extremely useful to me as I am a BBS guy.
I hope some of the regulars mommies are still there, if not I will not dare to venture to any of the shops with new mommies.
Will you be around in mid June?
Hope to go on a chicken run with you again! :)
Trip report
Day 3 – Peninsula KTV
Penisula KTV sucked. i don't mean that place sucks, its more of an experience that was kind of bitter for me. I...
I have had bad experience at Peninsula as well! was there on the 24th, had to go through 7 or 8 rounds for 5 of us to find girls to our liking.. but the girls are tame, and the atmosphere is just tame.... even with bunch of rowdy guys!
Had to end the night with Sauna girls.. Will never go there again..
CC
Point,
So I went into a sex shop in CP with a girl. She and I both saw these rubber condom looking things, but they were too small for the penis. So i later on found out that they are rubber roll on for the fingers. Now I understand why they even bother to sell that in the sex shop. People use them to explore places that I've never been before.
AsnDragon
Long time no report. props out to everyone in Cp last few weeks, Jetsetter, BSD, everyone's handle i forgot now....
Will report more later, but on this trip i had at least three girls who would not allow fingering saying hands were dirty and this is after the shower, so some kind of new idea is spreading...
I have had bad experience at Peninsula as well! was there on the 24th, had to go through 7 or 8 rounds for 5 of us to find girls to our liking.. but the girls are tame, and the atmosphere is just tame.... even with bunch of rowdy guys!
Had to end the night with Sauna girls.. Will never go there again..
CC
I think I was there as well and it sucked, i was there early and checked out the halls while the other rooms were picking them off and there just simply was not talent there. the atmosphere is lame and the girls boring. the fuhao girl with us was saying why did we come there, it sucks and is boring lol.
yes fun guys could not overcome the lameness of penn
freepeaks,
Have you seen the size of your fingers? If I was a girl, I'd be scared and make up some kind of excuse not to be fingered by you! j/k
Glad you had fun on your trip there. can't wait to hear about your stories.
AsnDragon
Long time no report. props out to everyone in Cp last few weeks, Jetsetter, BSD, everyone's handle i forgot now....
Will report more later, but on this trip i had at least three girls who would not allow fingering saying hands were dirty and this is after the shower, so some kind of new idea is spreading...
Well from my personal opinion, Pennisula girls are not that fun to be with. However, I have found many beautiful girls, the last three-four times I was there. it just depends on the day of the week you go.
In terms of Model quality girls, the girls at Penn may not have that many hot model girls as Eurasia or Royal garden, but their rates for their model group are relatively reasonable, and not outrageous like 5-10-15 that Eurasia charges or the 5-15-2000 that Royal Garden charges (it's been a while since I've been back to Royal so my info is from my vague memory a few years back)
Yes Penn girls may not be as wild and fun as Fuhao girls, but the quality of the girls are much prettier in my personal opinion. The reason why you never get to see the girls you like are because Penn has VIP rooms where many mommies will try to line up at first. Also Mommies have specified rooms they can go to. So for example some mommies are only allowed to go to Even number rooms and some mommies are assigned odd number rooms. This is done on management's part so that they can give all mommies a fair chance at getting business, so that popular groups of girls don't end up getting all the business while other group of girls don't get any chance in hell to get customers because their quality of girls are inferior. This actually helps management retain more quantity of girls in the long run. Not always good for clients, but in a competitive environment this is necessary, or else Penn will lose out to Mayflower. The popular girls, are hot ones, will usually always have a customer call ahead of time to reserve them anyways, so therefore you don't see many hot ones in the line up. The best time to go is during a weekday like thursday and it's pouring and raining outside....I was there during those circumstances, and we saw so many hot chicks at Penn it wasn't even funny!
What I don't understand is why KTV's don't just do flower streets now. I mean most of the better managed and popular KTVs all have flower streets. Mayflower, Eurasia, Fuhao, etc. Perhaps Flower streets are the secret to their success ?
AsnDragon
I think I was there as well and it sucked, i was there early and checked out the halls while the other rooms were picking them off and there just simply was not talent there. the atmosphere is lame and the girls boring. the fuhao girl with us was saying why did we come there, it sucks and is boring lol.
yes fun guys could not overcome the lameness of penn
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