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You should ask the girl before you take her back if she will perform certain services. BJ is still not ubiquitous in China, so you do have to specify you want the girl to do it. That goes for anything else you might want the girl to do, although certain things, like anal, are usually off the table unless you get to know the girl better.
Thing is, in China, most girls perform the way they think you want them to perform. I think a very high percentage of guys in China are just missionary, and seriously, nothing else. A lot of Chinese guys go for the "virgin" fantasy, and want the girl to appear very inexperienced. For a girl to just lay there and do nothing is completely acceptable and actually preferred by a large percentage of men. I remember one girl I met, she's a bit on the older side now, about 28. Before she met me, she had been with approximately 20 men (which probably means 100-200, she's kinda easy), all natives with age spread of 18 to 42. She said none of them ever asked her to do anything besides missionary. When I told her the things I like, she kept telling me I was a pervert.
Moody - this was the most concise, insightful and accurate post I have seen in a long time. This is very very true. Missionary is what most chinese want. I want them to use those squatting muscles they have used for 20 +/- years and ridem cowgirl. Just that makes you a pervert.... BJ is usually about 50/50 without asking, 75/25 with asking and only 20% are decent anyway, the rest either don't know or care to know and spit constantly.
I have had a girl actually puke (run to the bathroom and puke) and more than one say that they will puke if the bj (the puke girl was told she could not come if she did not, so at least she made the effort with a friend to instruct alas she ran and dry heaved.... hehe)
Transporter
05-26-10, 02:02
ingest more general tso chicken........
What I mean by fat guys are easier is that they normally come quick and go to sleep, likely drink a lot so the girl doesn't have to work so hard or so long. And it is somewhat perceived that fat guys have money.
Transporter
05-26-10, 02:06
Is six feet (1,84) about right or too short or tall? I imagine that 7 feet would freak them out and 5 feet would turn them off.
Nowdays it's not a problem, but many years back the girls use to associate height with little brother size, so they were a bit apprehensive to go out with a bigger guy. I remember back in the early days in CP I had to whip it out before the girls agreed to go out with me (I am 178 so not really that big). Nowdays it's not a problem.
Porter
Sorry to ask such a basic question but can some one let me know where Swan Lake is these days. I have a friend in CP now and its not where it was the last time he was there last year. The last thing I found in a post was that it was in front of the Manhattan apartments but he still could not find it so maybe this info is out of date. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
SE Asia Joe
05-26-10, 04:01
Sorry to ask such a basic question but can some one let me know where Swan Lake is these days. I have a friend in CP now and its not where it was the last time he was there last year. The last thing I found in a post was that it was in front of the Manhattan apartments but he still could not find it so maybe this info is out of date. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
The mommies from the old operations at the Swan Lake KTV had moved to the JUN HUI hotel - which is directly in front of the Mnahattan Serviced apartments.
OTH, last time I was there a week or so ago, MOST of the old mommies had packed up and opened up their own BBS operations in diverse locations around CP - and the remaining mommy I know from before were "indicating" that they were going to turn the operation into a straight KTV operation without the BBS's type operations available alongside. Something to do with some crackdowns or whatever on all the "venues" being run by the operator.
Am not sure what the state of play is right now/sure that this info is NOT of much use, but...........
Pity - I like the way things were before at the Jun Hui - half KTV half BBS.
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
05-26-10, 04:03
Nowdays it's not a problem, but many years back the girls use to associate height with little brother size, so they were a bit apprehensive to go out with a bigger guy. I remember back in the early days in CP I had to whip it out before the girls agreed to go out with me (I am 178 so not really that big). Nowdays it's not a problem.
Porter
ROFLMAO.....
the "Vogue" these days amongst the gals is to look at the size of the guy's nose!!
The bigger the nose is, the bigger his tool is gonna be!!
Wear a face mask!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
05-26-10, 04:12
Moody - this was the most concise, insightful and accurate post I have seen in a long time. This is very very true. Missionary is what most chinese want. I want them to use those squatting muscles they have used for 20 +/- years and ridem cowgirl. Just that makes you a pervert.... BJ is usually about 50/50 without asking, 75/25 with asking and only 20% are decent anyway, the rest either don't know or care to know and spit constantly.
I have had a girl actually puke (run to the bathroom and puke) and more than one say that they will puke if the bj (the puke girl was told she could not come if she did not, so at least she made the effort with a friend to instruct alas she ran and dry heaved.... hehe)
You guys are getting too many of your gals from KTV's!!
BBS gals - in CP at least - are very well expected to give BBBJ. Period!
I'd say I'd had a 95% "hit rate" with the BBS gals - including those I'd had to "teach" how to blow.
The other 5% - well...... there's no such thing as sure thing when it comes to BBBJ is there??!!
As for KTV gals - me-thinks I've also been luckier than you guys.
Majority of KTV gals I'd had, they do blow me - but of course I do set the"ground rules" before agreeing to take them.
And of those, I'd had to "teach" a few of them to do the deed..... with again the majority of these students - methinks- pretending that they've never done it before - yeah right!!
But then again - I AM a good looking blonde 26 year old Adonis. (I've aged!! I used to be 25!!)
Muahahaha!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
05-26-10, 04:25
They've been cracking down for the past couple or so weeks in Beijing - including raiding Passions - the one club I thought could stand just about any sweeps/had always been 100% OK in the past.
Shanghai has also been clamped down for the Expo. Zhuhai - well, you all know the story
Well.... last couple days, they've even had raids in Hong Kong of all places!! 141 buildings cleaned out, Immigration checks on providers etc etc.
Any signs of anything in CP/ Dongguan?
Wonder if this is a new "mania" going on in China? The Great Big Yellow Sweep we've all been so wary of in the past - at last coming to pass. If so.....
And remember - even though the great Chinese Wall against sex sites seems to still be down - I'd suggest to all of you to still use VPN's /proxies and not be lulled into complacency.... and possibly the LE showing up on your door steps>
Just IMHO
SEAJ
Well, based on my recent KTV visit, including past experiences, it adds on an additional minus for the KTV scene for me. I mean, mommies put all the lovely girls in front of you and promise you heaven and paradise, this girl offers good service and perform good in bed, blah, blah. I know that I should not listen to them, so better to take girl into room and play with them so see how far they let you go. But far too many times I have to be dissapointed although I know this is China and that I should not expect to much, from time to time, you pick a gem and she is a keeper. I just hate the hard sell from both the mommies and the girl where they promise you everything, and back in the hotel when all cloths is off, it is a little bit too late to complain and you still has to settle the bill. I don't know if it is fair to compare it like going to the girlie bars in Thailand, the ones that dance and do the best move and try to get your most attentions tend to be the best performer in bed too. But ofcourse occasionaly you get wrong here too, but again it is the hard selling part I hate with the KTV scene. Ask the girl in advance? Well, lessons learned and I will try that in the future, but past experinece tells me it doesn't make a difference.
It is easier and cheaper going to a BBS joint where in most cases you could complain to a mommy directly or in vicinity. She might even send you a new girl without any additional charge. What do you do with the KTV gal back in your room? Call the mommy for a replacement? Complain the next time (whenever that will be...) you see the mommie...? I don't expect girls to perform like a pornstar but to offer basic service, what basics are differ ocourse from monger to monger, for me, most important is the attitude of the girl, don't complain after three strokes or when changing position. I know this is China and do not have to expect too much from the girl. I don't choose any girl that I don't get eye contact with. If they hesitate or turn their faces away, I tend to choose another one, although gems are to be found here too. But if she for any reasons think that only her looks will be enough to make me come, she has to think twice why she is in this trade. No offence. I respect the girl and is interested that all parties have fun, but that includes me as a customer, not only the gal laying there who think it is easy money to earn.
In general I agree with most of you, especially Moody, regarding most Chinese preferences of the missionary and not to expect other services. Reflecting on my own experineces is that KTV girl tend to be (pretend at least) more like your sweetheart GF (who try to earn the easy money) and then most BBS girl know that what they are there for, to be fucked. In most cases I have succeeded to have BBBJ or just a BJ from BBS girl without asking, a few times you have to ask but they then don't know how and there are those who claim they will puke. Almost all of them will spit, which ofcourse is a big turn off. From time to time, you find some gems here to, who know how to do, changing positions and perform their work, even gals who don't blow well might fuck well :o) Older and more experienced girls usually say nothing and are in to the game whatever you do (well, except anal), while new or younger gals don't know how to do and only know one or two positions. Any efffort to teach and learn them results in the gal calling you a pervert and any uncomfortable position (for them, not for you) they tend to ask you: you finish soon....
Well, just sharing my experiences and my POV, no big news under the sun, guess most of our experiences are the same. Again, I don't expect any hard core pornstar experineces, especially from any China gal, actually I prefer the GF experience more. That you might expect more to come from a KTV girl contra a BBS, but based on the sex and cost, the better sex hit rate is higher from a BBS gal while I feel sort of ripped of by some KTV gals.....
J
As for KTV gals - me-thinks I've also been luckier than you guys.
Majority of KTV gals I'd had, they do blow me - but of course I do set the"ground rules" before agreeing to take them.
And of those, I'd had to "teach" a few of them to do the deed..... with again the majority of these students - methinks- pretending that they've never done it before - yeah right!!
In the beginning, it happened to me a lot that girls wouldn't blow me, but it's not a deal breaker for me unless I'm in a certain mood. Later on though, I learned to ask, then my hit ratio went up considerably. Sure there are the girls who constantly spit, but again, I ask about that too. In the beginning, I used to be shy about asking stuff like that, but after a couple times, it's no big deal.
As for girls who say they've never done it, I don't bother teaching them. It's more work for me and might involve teeth. If I take them back, I'll just have normal sex with them. Like I said, BJ is not a deal breaker for me, especially if they're really hot.
I will say this though, the girls who do it the best were from BBSes, I'm guessing that it's from more practice. It's pretty rare for a KTV girl to get multiple customers in a day, but I think common practice for most BBS girls. Same goes for sauna girls.
The interview is absolutely critical. Since I am a BJ fanatic I almost always ask the question during the evening. I generally only choose to take home the girls that say yes. So, my hit rate is also pretty high. But I would say that there have been many girls who have told me that they do not provide such services. Also, even if I get a BJ, its usually pretty average. I have yet to find a girl in China that has the skills of an MP girl here in good ol L.A.
My advice to the newbies.... this is a business transaction. You are buying something so you better make sure you are getting what you think you are getting. If its not what you want, put it back on the shelf and move on to the next aisle. Crude.... but true.
In the beginning, it happened to me a lot that girls wouldn't blow me, but it's not a deal breaker for me unless I'm in a certain mood. Later on though, I learned to ask, then my hit ratio went up considerably. Sure there are the girls who constantly spit, but again, I ask about that too. In the beginning, I used to be shy about asking stuff like that, but after a couple times, it's no big deal.
As for girls who say they've never done it, I don't bother teaching them. It's more work for me and might involve teeth. If I take them back, I'll just have normal sex with them. Like I said, BJ is not a deal breaker for me, especially if they're really hot.
I will say this though, the girls who do it the best were from BBSes, I'm guessing that it's from more practice. It's pretty rare for a KTV girl to get multiple customers in a day, but I think common practice for most BBS girls. Same goes for sauna girls.
I generally do not adjust well to China time. So there are many times where I am wide awake by the time its 6 or 7 a.m. I've had plenty of bbs mommies and sauna managers give me their card and tell them that I can call them 24/7 and they will send someone to me. But I've never actually taken any of them up on that offer. My thought is that any girl who actually has to wake up after like 2 hours of sleep to come over and service me will not be too happy and will probably provide below average service.
That said, anyone ever tried for some early morning action? How was it? Did you feel as though it was good service? If I don't keep an LT from the night before and I'm up at 7 a.m., I usually have many hours of boredom until the rest of my crew gets up and we get on with the days events. I want to find some early morning fun that's worth it.
ManonsanBoy
05-26-10, 22:32
That said, anyone ever tried for some early morning action? How was it? Did you feel as though it was good service? If I don't keep an LT from the night before and I'm up at 7 a.m., I usually have many hours of boredom until the rest of my crew gets up and we get on with the days events. I want to find some early morning fun that's worth it.
I get early morning action often. But you need to be around 4-5 am rather than 7 am. Most mamasans have a long list and can call. They also have in house girls. Try it. It is OK.
Cunning Linguist
05-26-10, 23:32
In the beginning, it happened to me a lot that girls wouldn't blow me, but it's not a deal breaker for me unless I'm in a certain mood. L
As for girls who say they've never done it, I don't bother teaching them. It's more work for me and might involve teeth. If I take them back, I'll just have normal sex with them. Like I said, BJ is not a deal breaker for me, especially if they're really hot.
I will say this though, the girls who do it the best were from BBSes, I'm guessing that it's from more practice. It's pretty rare for a KTV girl to get multiple customers in a day, but I think common practice for most BBS girls. Same goes for sauna girls.
Are the girls there DATY friendly? In Thailand, there were a couple that didn't allow it but all the rest did. My only experience in Laos very much did not allow it My only experience in China to date, Shanghai Sauna, really got into it. Thus, do Chinese men like DATY or is it a Laowai / Japanese thing?
Really, I am more into DATY than BJ. I am not the Cunning Linguist for nothing. What is usual in CP?
They've been cracking down for the past couple or so weeks in Beijing - including raiding Passions - the one club I thought could stand just about any sweeps/had always been 100% OK in the past.
Shanghai has also been clamped down for the Expo. Zhuhai - well, you all know the story
Well.... last couple days, they've even had raids in Hong Kong of all places!! 141 buildings cleaned out, Immigration checks on providers etc etc.
Any signs of anything in CP/ Dongguan?
Wonder if this is a new "mania" going on in China? The Great Big Yellow Sweep we've all been so wary of in the past - at last coming to pass. If so.....
And remember - even though the great Chinese Wall against sex sites seems to still be down - I'd suggest to all of you to still use VPN's /proxies and not be lulled into complacency.... and possibly the LE showing up on your door steps>
Just IMHO
SEAJ
Check out this article. Some hobo/bum (Street Performer) in Dongguan has been helping the police find and shutdown BBS/shops, etc.
It does not say if he's in Dongguan-central vs ChangPing vs Houjie vs ChangAn, etc. But damn!
http://www.lifeofguangzhou.com/node...357476953.shtml
Updated May 25 2010
The hand-sketched drawings of a hobo in Dongguan City, southern China's Guangdong Province, have helped shut down four prostitution rings, the Guangzhou Daily reported on Monday.
Fifty-year-old Wang Xiuyong, drew maps marking the locations of prostitution dens after spending about two months in the area checking the locations and identifying the details involved as he did street performances.
Wang Xiuyong, who contracted polio in his childhood, makes a living doing street calligraphy performances.
Wang refused the reward offered by local police. He said, "I wish I could use my little strength to do something for society. I hope healthy trends can spread to encourage more people to join in on the crackdown on prostitution."
In order to strengthen efforts to crack down on prostitution, the local government is planning to recruit a group of supervisors from the public, 30 of which have already been confirmed, according to an unnamed local official.
And there's this other article, which sounds like a guy sending 161/141 girls into Hong Kong was caught.
http://www.lifeofguangzhou.com/node...103273371.shtml
Dar
Bob Builder
05-27-10, 00:26
Are the girls there DATY friendly? In Thailand, there were a couple that didn't allow it but all the rest did. My only experience in Laos very much did not allow it My only experience in China to date, Shanghai Sauna, really got into it. Thus, do Chinese men like DATY or is it a Laowai / Japanese thing?
Really, I am more into DATY than BJ. I am not the Cunning Linguist for nothing. What is usual in CP?
Bro,
The posters on the Dongguan thread have just spent the last 2 weeks discussing smelly, diseased pussy. Hope you are still keen, LOL!
BB
Cunning Linguist
05-27-10, 01:24
Bro,
The posters on the Dongguan thread have just spent the last 2 weeks discussing smelly, diseased pussy. Hope you are still keen, LOL!
BB
Yes, I am aware of those discussions but am hoping that they are the rather rare exception rather than the general rule. I have had quite a few girls in Asia as well as in the DR and Haiti and have yet to find what you describe. I suppose that I have been incredibly lucky to date.
Are the girls there DATY friendly? In Thailand, there were a couple that didn't allow it but all the rest did. My only experience in Laos very much did not allow it My only experience in China to date, Shanghai Sauna, really got into it. Thus, do Chinese men like DATY or is it a Laowai / Japanese thing?
Really, I am more into DATY than BJ. I am not the Cunning Linguist for nothing. What is usual in CP?
DATY is extremely rare in Chinese men. Chinese guys will not do it. Think about it, girls think it's gross to suck a dick, it's much worse to suck a pussy, not to mention the role reversal of male sexual dominance. As to girls letting you do it... I really can't answer that about P4P girls, since I have never attempted it. Regular girls though, will allow it and some will even enjoy it to the extent they almost demand it.
Also, I understand there's a lot of kinks out there, but do you really want to DATY a girl who probably let some guy fuck her bareback only an hour or two before? I'm not judging the practice, just a warning if you taste something a bit off in there. Aside from finding out the girl you picked has a cock and various STDs, tasting some other dude's cum has got to be the up there as one of the worst surprises you can get from a hooker.
That said, anyone ever tried for some early morning action? How was it? Did you feel as though it was good service? If I don't keep an LT from the night before and I'm up at 7 a.m., I usually have many hours of boredom until the rest of my crew gets up and we get on with the days events. I want to find some early morning fun that's worth it.
I've tried "early" as in 8 am to 11 am action a few times to no avail. The mommies to BBSs are often asleep themselves and then they have to call girls which is near impossible. Even with girl's telephone numbers, calling them at this time usually end up unanswered.
I too enjoy a morning session and Saunas don't get girls until 2 pm. Sometimes waiting for the bus at 11 am or 12 noon makes me wanting a quick 2 hour session. But no, it's not that convenient.
So in my experience, mornings to noon is not possible to get any action. And that's a darn shame.
SE Asia Joe
05-27-10, 15:27
I've tried "early" as in 8 am to 11 am action a few times to no avail. The mommies to BBSs are often asleep themselves and then they have to call girls which is near impossible. Even with girl's telephone numbers, calling them at this time usually end up unanswered.
I too enjoy a morning session and Saunas don't get girls until 2 pm. Sometimes waiting for the bus at 11 am or 12 noon makes me wanting a quick 2 hour session. But no, it's not that convenient.
So in my experience, mornings to noon is not possible to get any action. And that's a darn shame.
A year or so ago, I used to leave CP on the 14:37 direct train to Hong Kong as I had to check out of the hotel by the 2 pm deadline.
And like you guys, always wanted to have "One Last One" before I go!!
And that was when I started collecting the phone numbers of gals I did who I thought good/wouldn't mind repeating - for what I did then was to arrange the PREVIOUS night with one of these gals. That was the beginning also of me having "regulars" BTW.
"Disclaimer" - I'd had to make double sure/spell it out very thoroughly to make sure that the gal would show up the next day, for when I first started these arrangements, I DID have some disappointments with them Not showing up etc. Main reason for her not showing up is of course getting drunk, not being able to get up, didn't think I was serious as I failed to phone them in the morning etc.
How did I make sure sure? Well, I'd spell out when I would phone to wake her up, when I expect her to show up and how long I was going to "partook" of her. And I would tell her that if for ANY reason that she was NOT going to be able to show up, that she must phone me as soon as she realizes this (thus giving me a bit of leeway to arrange other "dates").
And BTW - her having a LT the previous night had NEVER been an issue, for then they'd "enact their right" to leave at a so and so time to the client (Yes, "hong-Kwai" (rules of the trade) DO give Gals the right to leave supposedly ANYTME that they see sunlight for LT dates).
Just my previous experience - don't hold me to it if it don't work for you!!
SEAJ
PS. BTW - quite a few of these gals actually preferred to come over as early as 7 or 8 AM - and what they'd do is just stay awake with their LT date - and then come over to see me. Thus not good for guys who hates being sloppy seconds etc - but hell..... we're not talking about GFs are we??!!
SE Asia Joe
05-27-10, 15:51
daty is extremely rare in chinese men. chinese guys will not do it. ...........regular girls though, will allow it and some will even enjoy it to the extent they almost demand it.
errrr..... not sure if this statement is as true today as it was, say, even four or five years ago. just imho of course!!
most things progress at super speed in china - and at uber speed for sexual practices, me-thinks. nowadays, i prefer to be with a few "regulars" rather than always getting a new one each time - and thus have had the opportunity to chat with these gals at length on just about any topic - of course with sex at the top of the list!
i have been surprised to find out that quite a few gals these days actually enjoy daty - and in a lot of cases, its because their boy friends do go down on them!! that...... i figure out is how a lot of these low life pimp bfs of theirs get to them!! a "proper" chinese bf would still refuse to daty - and thus when a pimp bf go after them and then do go down on them - wham - they're in love!!
and quite alot of them told me that their bf's told them not to allow any of their clients to go down on them - convincing them that these mongers are dirty and that if they allow a john to go down on them, that they run the risk of catching some nasties. and thus perhaps the reason why most of them will refuse daty - as these gals do talk with each other!!
just imho from my limited knowledge
seaj
The early morning is very difficult if you do not have an overnight guest. Sometimes that is a reason to keep them, I have had success with having a NM girl told to come over at a certain time (10am) since they are up to 7am anyway, so you can try that avenue. KTV girls - asleep, too early for bbs - asleep, sauna - most work until 12/3am so asleep.
NM is a good option, you could also have one come over at 5am and keep them for the morning. good to have a NM mommie card, but the merchandise they bring to your hotel can be disasterous. good to keep some girls phones and let them know mid-night about your morning appetite, perhaps they will show, if you offer them a small bonus 50 or something the likelihood goes way up.
Member #4144
05-27-10, 21:05
.... I have been surprised to find out that quite a few gals THESE DAYS actually enjoy DATY - and in a lot of cases, its because their Boy Friends do go down on them!! ....
SEAJ
Yes, they like it a lot lately. In my recent ktv visit with a threesome
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1111
One girl begged me to kiss her down there, she sure liked it, while the second girl said it was too sensitive down there and she will let me DATY if she is with me alone. Generally speaking, I always do 69 with ktv girls and I don't remember any girl refusing on DATY except in this threesome situation.
F.
SE Asia Joe
05-28-10, 02:03
The early morning is very difficult if you do not have an overnight guest. Sometimes that is a reason to keep them, I have had success with having a NM girl told to come over at a certain time (10am) since they are up to 7am anyway, so you can try that avenue. KTV girls - asleep, too early for bbs - asleep, sauna - most work until 12/3am so asleep.
NM is a good option, you could also have one come over at 5am and keep them for the morning. good to have a NM mommie card, but the merchandise they bring to your hotel can be disasterous. good to keep some girls phones and let them know mid-night about your morning appetite, perhaps they will show, if you offer them a small bonus 50 or something the likelihood goes way up.
Yes a NM gal seems to be the best bet somehow. My first few "successes" WERE with NM gals!
OTH, KTV and BBS gals had also been pretty regular "morning gals" as they get to keep all of the fee that I give them (and the tip too!!).
They love the fact that they could cut the mommie fee out - and to do so in relative safety as mommie would hardly suspect that one of her gals would be up and doing it that early in the morning.
PRE-ARRANGEMENT though, is the key
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
05-28-10, 02:05
Yes, they like it a lot lately. In my recent ktv visit with a threesome
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1111
One girl begged me to kiss her down there, she sure liked it, while the second girl said it was too sensitive down there and she will let me DATY if she is with me alone. Generally speaking, I always do 69 with ktv girls and I don't remember any girl refusing on DATY except in this threesome situation.
F.
See Moody - like I said, things move fast in China!!
Beliefs and home truths we know one day all of a sudden don't apply no more.... even before we realize it.
SEAJ
Yes grand ISG master! Show me the way!
They love the fact that they could cut the mommie fee out - and to do so in relative safety as mommie would hardly suspect that one of her gals would be up and doing it that early in the morning.
PRE-ARRANGEMENT though, is the key
SEAJ
Yes pre-arrangement the key. you start calling around at that time and you will have little luck. although last visit I sent a girl home after she was being a PITA at 5am, and texted a ktv mommie that i had been working on who came over sans makeup, messed hair from a dead sleep at 7am... and one of the best bonks of the week. even allowed cim. of course every time I see her with her girls at ktv all i can think is of that.
See Moody - like I said, things move fast in China!!
Beliefs and home truths we know one day all of a sudden don't apply no more.... even before we realize it.
SEAJ
It still holds true. most will squirm away, they think it is dirty, so they cannot enjoy, a few will tolerate and maybe 1 in 10 will truly enjoy. on the other hand alot of sauna girls like it, i will joke with them about it cause i am not doing it in sauna but more and more say they like it.
wish they would like shaving more for me and to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) joe off.
See Moody - like I said, things move fast in China!!
Beliefs and home truths we know one day all of a sudden don't apply no more.... even before we realize it.
SEAJ
As fast as things move in China, I don't think this is one of them. I don't think it's so much the girls, as the guys. There's a good number of guys who enjoy doing it, just like there's a good number of girls that enjoy giving blowjobs. On the whole though, those two groups are in the minority. The vast majority of Chinese guys think the practice is really gross, and this rubs off on the girls. I think you really cannot get general notions of typical Chinese sexual behavior in CP. Those girls are exposed to wayyyyyyyyyy too many non-natives who practice all sorts of sexual deviances.
That aside though, if you have a regular girl, it's really easy to talk them into agreeing to do most things as long as it doesn't involve too much pain, or isn't too weird. I'm sure if you've had sex with a girl once or twice, and even if they've never done oral before, you can easily talk them into giving you a BJ or letting you DATY. They've all seen porn and know oral sex is common practice so it's not really considered too weird.
That aside , if you have a regular girl, it's really easy to talk them into agreeing to do most things as long as it doesn't involve too much pain, or isn't too weird. I'm sure if you've had sex with a girl once or twice, and even if they've never done oral before, you can easily talk them into giving you a BJ or letting you DATY. They've all seen porn and know oral sex is common practice so it's not really considered too weird.
You can certainly talk them into it, but you can't make them like it. I have tried on a few girls and they might do it once to appease you but if they do not like it they will not repeat. That said I had a long time regular that I tried greek on and was careful not to give pain. after 2-3 times she simply didn't enjoy it, then she was drunk and on the rag and gave me porn star greek performance.
if you want immediate deviance you need to go to a sauna and know a manager.
Member #4144
05-29-10, 05:20
You can certainly talk them into it, but you can't make them like it. I have tried on a few girls and they might do it once to appease you but if they do not like it they will not repeat. That said I had a long time regular that I tried greek on and was careful not to give pain. after 2-3 times she simply didn't enjoy it, then she was drunk and on the rag and gave me porn star greek performance.
if you want immediate deviance you need to go to a sauna and know a manager.
I think this thing (BJ and DATY) depends a lot on where the girl is from. I stick wth ChongChing and Hubei(near ChongChing) girls and have not failed so far.
F.
It still holds true. most will squirm away, they think it is dirty, so they cannot enjoy, a few will tolerate and maybe 1 in 10 will truly enjoy.
I forgot to mention, most Chinese consider bodily fluids to be really dirty and gross. That's why they're spitting all the time. That and the loss of face for the guy being in a submissive position are other reasons it's not a common practice.
StinkyFeet
05-29-10, 08:19
I think this thing (BJ and DATY) depends a lot on where the girl is from. I stick wth ChongChing and Hubei(near ChongChing) girls and have not failed so far.
F.
I stereotype a lot (physical features) since its enjoyable past time. but in terms of foreplay. my experience tells me that it is entirely dependent on the guy and the girls life experience (ie westernize, type of working girl, BF's, etc). I had sauna girls that were flat and others that blew my mind. I had ktv girls that were flat and others that gave me stars. that said with freebies. being younger, with cash, and Americanized Asian has helped me IMO though.
That said I had a long time regular that I tried greek on and was careful not to give pain. after 2-3 times she simply didn't enjoy it, then she was drunk and on the rag and gave me porn star greek performance.
You should tell them it's like regular sex and they have to do it few dozen times before it gets better. Most girls don't enjoy sex the first few dozen times and a lot find it painful until they reach a certain level of experience. Remind them of that and they'll follow the program. It helps if you use Astroglide. Nothing sticks to Astroglide (reduce grossness factor).
I did also mention to a couple girls that if they wear a buttplug all day, it won't hurt as much and that they might enjoy. I couldn't talk them into that, even after I told them everybody in Europe does it. Basically got told, "no way Im gonna wear that under my clothes, you're a pervert." I guess there still some limits. I'll try again next time I get a regular girl.
I just joined ISG and not familiar with the site layout so hoping this is the right place for my post. I visited mainland China last year in September for the first time based on an excellent report posted on another forum where I have been a member for almost a decade. My plan was to just stay in Zhuhai for the whole trip but I had a terrible time in Zhuhai and literally spent 3 days in total disbelief and disappointment as what was supposed to be a great time turned into a total disappointment as I could not find any venue that would cater to me. At the time when I was just about to change my travel plan and fly back home I got in touch with BSD through a mutual friend and I decided to give CP a try and I am really glad that I did and had an awesome time. Even though I thanked BSD several times I just wanted to join this board and thank him again for the excellent time I had in CP and China in general that would not have been possible without his help. I did meet some other members from this board including a Frenchman and a few Americans but unfortunately I can't remember any of their handles but I do remember some names but not their ISG handles. I was in CP last week of September and first week of October and stayed at the Clipper Hotel. I am sure I'll figure out how to use the mail feature on this board and get in touch with BSD.
Once again, BSD, thank you very much for your help and the excellent time I had with the group.
PhD
I just joined ISG and not familiar with the site layout so hoping this is the right place for my post. I visited mainland China last year in September for the first time based on an excellent report posted on another forum where I have been a member for almost a decade. My plan was to just stay in Zhuhai for the whole trip but I had a terrible time in Zhuhai and literally spent 3 days in total disbelief and disappointment as what was supposed to be a great time turned into a total disappointment as I could not find any venue that would cater to me. At the time when I was just about to change my travel plan and fly back home I got in touch with BSD through a mutual friend and I decided to give CP a try and I am really glad that I did and had an awesome time. Even though I thanked BSD several times I just wanted to join this board and thank him again for the excellent time I had in CP and China in general that would not have been possible without his help. I did meet some other members from this board including a Frenchman and a few Americans but unfortunately I can't remember any of their handles but I do remember some names but not their ISG handles. I was in CP last week of September and first week of October and stayed at the Clipper Hotel. I am sure I'll figure out how to use the mail feature on this board and get in touch with BSD.
Once again, BSD, thank you very much for your help and the excellent time I had with the group.
PhD
I think there are a couple of lessons to be learned from PHD's post.
1) ISG works, especially if you can meet with some of the members, it's a great benefit. And, honestly, I think having a membership (gives ability to send private email) helps alot too.
2) Mongering in China can be difficult and not so open/available as other countries. Speaking some of the language helps a lot, and that is difficult for many foreigners to learn enough Chinese language if they visit rarely.
All of this also makes me wonder why all of the crackdowns happening in China. Maybe a very small (1%) of foreigners figure out the game, but many of them live or do business, or have come deeper in touch with Chinese culture. To me the crackdowns do not make sense, but I will keep an open mind if someone can explain their thoughts about the crackdowns. (please keep to Private Msg; as I think the forums is not about this kind of discussion).
Dar
I did also mention to a couple girls that if they wear a buttplug all day, it won't hurt as much and that they might enjoy. I couldn't talk them into that, even after I told them everybody in Europe does it. Basically got told, "no way Im gonna wear that under my clothes, you're a pervert." I guess there still some limits. I'll try again next time I get a regular girl.
Actually the silicone lubricants are much better than water based. they are condom safe and more like oil, water ones get sticky after awile.
SE Asia Joe
06-01-10, 15:49
I just joined ISG and not familiar with the site layout so hoping this is the right place for my post. I visited mainland China last year in September for the first time based on an excellent report posted on another forum where I have been a member for almost a decade. My plan was to just stay in Zhuhai for the whole trip but I had a terrible time in Zhuhai and literally spent 3 days in total disbelief and disappointment as what was supposed to be a great time turned into a total disappointment as I could not find any venue that would cater to me. At the time when I was just about to change my travel plan and fly back home I got in touch with BSD through a mutual friend and I decided to give CP a try and I am really glad that I did and had an awesome time. Even though I thanked BSD several times I just wanted to join this board and thank him again for the excellent time I had in CP and China in general that would not have been possible without his help. I did meet some other members from this board including a Frenchman and a few Americans but unfortunately I can't remember any of their handles but I do remember some names but not their ISG handles. I was in CP last week of September and first week of October and stayed at the Clipper Hotel. I am sure I'll figure out how to use the mail feature on this board and get in touch with BSD.
Once again, BSD, thank you very much for your help and the excellent time I had with the group.
PhD
Oh Wow - a PhD in mongering!!
There's a whole bunch of us MBA's and the like - but a PhD??!!
And before anything else and BTW - MBA stands for Married But Available!
SEAJ
Oh Wow - a PhD in mongering!!
There's a whole bunch of us MBA's and the like - but a PhD??!!
And before anything else and BTW - MBA stands for Married But Available!
SEAJWell, just to be clear. I do not have a PhD in mongering and actually never thought of it that way but not a bad idea. Not sure which accredited institution would actually grant something like that. I have a PhD in the line of my profession. Let's see if I can figure out how to change my handle here but I have the same handle on the other board where I have been a member for many years so I thought it would be easier just to keep it the same here as well but didn't mean to confuse people with this.
Oh Wow - a PhD in mongering!!
SEAJ
We all know if there is a PhD in mongering, then Dean Joe must have handed it out.
Big Swingin Dave
06-02-10, 04:03
Oscar KTV is located near the Pacific Sauna in Chang An about 5 minutes from the Chang An hotel. This naked KTV is a couple years old but nothing special in terms of hardware/software.
The place do not have a flower street and line-up starts at 7:00pm. We were shown about a 100 girls and each guy (5 total) barely was able to select one to party with. The girls are split in 2 categores: 2-6-8; 3-8-10. Only 1 of the 4 girls selected (1 had a lunchbox from the Century Flower Club) were taken back to CP. The girls in CA do not have a problem going to CP as long as you communicate with them that they will be sent back to CA in the morning (100RMB taxi fee additional).
This place offers room packages (including fruits, snacks, and service charge) for: 3 dozen beers - 888, 6 dozen beers 1288, or Chivas 12 year old whiskey (including mixers) - 1 bottle 788, 2 bottles 1288.
The girls were not as fun as the ones from the Century Flower Club and the stripping (totally naked) only lasted about 15 minutes. Overall, IMHO it was a waste of time and money to go to this KTV.
BSD
Oh Wow - a PhD in mongering!!
There's a whole bunch of us MBA's and the like - but a PhD??!!
And before anything else and BTW - MBA stands for Married But Available!
SEAJSEAJ
Phd= Phucking Horny Dude.
Hello. The next step after an MBA.
SE Asia Joe
06-02-10, 08:22
SEAJ
Phd= Phucking Horny Dude.
Hello. The next step after an MBA.
I like Pussy Hunting Dog better
SEAJ
I second the recommendation to give this place a pass. I went there about six weeks ago, and had high expectations as it was less dated than other Naked KTV's in CA, and with conversion to the Naked format they had brought in a couple of good mommies from Ji An. We all stayed in CA, but only one out of five guys brought their girls back. Line-up quality poor by typical CA naked KTV standards, but more dissapointing the the girls had pretty much shit princess attitudes, similar to Penninsula KTV in CP. We also got a very reluctant 15 minute sort of naked dance.
Next night I went to New Century Flowers and it was much better. It seems like the CA naked KTV's might be hurting or they're having a bit of a cheap charlie package war. Most places seem to have a nice beer or red wine package that keeps the cost per head in the 200-300 range.
Oscar KTV is located near the Pacific Sauna in Chang An about 5 minutes from the Chang An hotel. This naked KTV is a couple years old but nothing special in terms of hardware/software.
The place do not have a flower street and line-up starts at 7:00pm. We were shown about a 100 girls and each guy (5 total) barely was able to select one to party with. The girls are split in 2 categores: 2-6-8; 3-8-10. Only 1 of the 4 girls selected (1 had a lunchbox from the Century Flower Club) were taken back to CP. The girls in CA do not have a problem going to CP as long as you communicate with them that they will be sent back to CA in the morning (100RMB taxi fee additional).
This place offers room packages (including fruits, snacks, and service charge) for: 3 dozen beers - 888, 6 dozen beers 1288, or Chivas 12 year old whiskey (including mixers) - 1 bottle 788, 2 bottles 1288.
The girls were not as fun as the ones from the Century Flower Club and the stripping (totally naked) only lasted about 15 minutes. Overall, IMHO it was a waste of time and money to go to this KTV.
BSD
Oscar KTV is located near the Pacific Sauna in Chang An about 5 minutes from the Chang An hotel. This naked KTV is a couple years old but nothing special in terms of hardware/software.
The place do not have a flower street and line-up starts at 7:00pm. We were shown about a 100 girls and each guy (5 total) barely was able to select one to party with. The girls are split in 2 categores: 2-6-8; 3-8-10. Only 1 of the 4 girls selected (1 had a lunchbox from the Century Flower Club) were taken back to CP. The girls in CA do not have a problem going to CP as long as you communicate with them that they will be sent back to CA in the morning (100RMB taxi fee additional).
This place offers room packages (including fruits, snacks, and service charge) for: 3 dozen beers - 888, 6 dozen beers 1288, or Chivas 12 year old whiskey (including mixers) - 1 bottle 788, 2 bottles 1288.
The girls were not as fun as the ones from the Century Flower Club and the stripping (totally naked) only lasted about 15 minutes. Overall, IMHO it was a waste of time and money to go to this KTV.
BSD
BSD,
Don't be too sad, no one can hit a home run all the time! Just ask me....LOL I am looking forward to my next visit and trying out another option in CP. And if that doesn't work out the spa itself is almost worth the trip! I really do need to work on my card games skills though, a guy could lose his shirt or worse playing that game with the KTV girls.....
SEAJ
Phd= Phucking Horny Dude.
Hello. The next step after an MBA.How about Dolls hunting phuker?
Dongguan Doug
06-03-10, 02:40
Had a meeting in Xingqi the other day and was going through CP on my way back home so decided to stop and try a new sauna. I had been to the Versailles sauna previously but wanted something a little higher quality. I read the forum and decided to try the Meibao sauna. I wrote down as many detailed instructions as I could find and asked my driver to find it. Most of the instructions indicated that it was next to the Swan Lake Hotel. A few years ago, when I was coming to CP frequently for fun, each room on a floor of the hotel was stocked with about 10 girls – I remember it being one of the most surreal experiences. You used to walk down the hallway and each room’s mamasan tried to grab you to come and see the girls in one particular room. It was crazy.
I walked in the hotel and went to the 5th floor – nothing. I went behind the hotel and walking in – nothing. I was really surprised as no one tried to help me and show me the way (if there is a sauna or BBS nearby one of the mamasan’s or manager’s would surely have helped me find their establishment). I finally arrived at the Swan Lake Hotel sauna which is on the 4th floor. I was on a time crunch and decided that it would be acceptable if the girls were of decent to good quality. After some confusion, I was shown into a room (very average and definitely not 5 star). The lineup of 10 was brought in. Nothing too great but a few attractive ones. I picked number 138 from Harbin. Her tits looked much better when she was wearing a push up bra but that’s usually the case. I have yet to find a girl with fake big tits but that would be amazing. I sometimes make them keep their bra on while I fuck them so it makes their tits look bigger. The sauna was pretty standard. She didn’t like to have her legs pulled up close to her head as the penetration was too deep so she kept bending them a little – that was a little annoying. Popped 3 times in 120 minutes and showered. Damage was RMB400 for the girl and RMB88 for the room. I believe the room charge could be waved if I booked in advance. I have the name card if anyone is interested (PM me) but I wouldn’t really recommend it.
Back in the car on the street right outside I saw a few lookers and asked them where Mei Bao was. They pointed me in the right direction and I finally found it. Not easy to find as it is around the corner next to a seafood restaurant. There was a manager on the street and she gave me her card. She was really professional and explained to me the price structure of RMB500 or RMN600 for models for 2 hours, everything included. I regretted not having gone there (I was impatient and should have put more effort into finding it) but will surely be going my next time through CP.
DD
Overall, IMHO it was a waste of time and money to go to this KTV.
BSD
In general, ALL KTVs are boring, expensive, time wasting, and you feel like shit the next day. You listen to crappy singers, play stupid games, look at disinterested girls, get ripped off half the time, and destroy your liver. Still, a night of KTV (even a bad one) is better than a night of no KTV, any night of the week.
In general all KTVs are boring, expensive, time wasting, and you feel like shit the next day. You listen to crappy singers, play stupid games, look at disinterested girls, get ripped off half the time, and destroy your liver. Still, a night of KTV (even a bad one) is better than a night of no KTV, any night of the week.Well said, my friend.
How about Dolls hunting phuker?
Dick Hunting Pussy.
Not easy to find as it is around the corner next to a seafood restaurant. There was a manager on the street and she gave me her card. She was really professional and explained to me the price structure of RMB500 or RMN600 for models for 2 hours, everything included. I regretted not having gone there (I was impatient and should have put more effort into finding it) but will surely be going my next time through CP.
DDHey DD,
I'll be in Dongguan next week and would not mind checking this place out and will report it as well. Since I've not really been to Dongguan before, do you happen to know the name of the street or the general directions from White Swan? Would appreciate it if you can share it :)
Moody,
I agree, a lot of second hand smoke, and alcohol that kills your liver. But in terms of crappy singers that's not always the case....at least if you go with SEAJOE, you'll have a good singer to listen to.
AsnDragon
In general, ALL KTVs are boring, expensive, time wasting, and you feel like shit the next day. You listen to crappy singers, play stupid games, look at disinterested girls, get ripped off half the time, and destroy your liver. Still, a night of KTV (even a bad one) is better than a night of no KTV, any night of the week.
Dongguan Doug,
Once again...3 times in 120 minutes is very amazing. I guess I'm just getting old-turning 56 next year...I should start taking Viagra or something. But I'm lucky to be able to pop two times in a Sauna session. I don't know how you do it.
Anyways, Swan Lake Sauna is nothing special. But a lot of people like it, coming up from HK over the weekend, because they can book in advance, waive the room fee or get a cheap discount on the room, pop a girl after 12 midnight and be able to stay in the room overnight, which saves them the room fee in CP. So it's a pretty good deal if you think about it.
The usual fees for the girl is 300 RMB plus 88 RMB for the room. 388 RMB total for a sauna service.
But the quality is not that great. Girls tend to be shorter than other Saunas. But then again different strokes for different folks.
Meibao is pretty good in terms of variety of selection. Still you see short ones, but if you are willing to pay 600 RMB or 700 RMB (inclusive of the room fee) then you get taller and prettier ones. You get what you pay for.
AsnDragon
Had a meeting in Xingqi the other day and was going through CP on my way back home so decided to stop and try a new sauna. I had been to the Versailles sauna previously but wanted something a little higher quality. I read the forum and decided to try the Meibao sauna. I wrote down as many detailed instructions as I could find and asked my driver to find it. Most of the instructions indicated that it was next to the Swan Lake Hotel. A few years ago, when I was coming to CP frequently for fun, each room on a floor of the hotel was stocked with about 10 girls – I remember it being one of the most surreal experiences. You used to walk down the hallway and each room’s mamasan tried to grab you to come and see the girls in one particular room. It was crazy.
I walked in the hotel and went to the 5th floor – nothing. I went behind the hotel and walking in – nothing. I was really surprised as no one tried to help me and show me the way (if there is a sauna or BBS nearby one of the mamasan’s or manager’s would surely have helped me find their establishment). I finally arrived at the Swan Lake Hotel sauna which is on the 4th floor. I was on a time crunch and decided that it would be acceptable if the girls were of decent to good quality. After some confusion, I was shown into a room (very average and definitely not 5 star). The lineup of 10 was brought in. Nothing too great but a few attractive ones. I picked number 138 from Harbin. Her tits looked much better when she was wearing a push up bra but that’s usually the case. I have yet to find a girl with fake big tits but that would be amazing. I sometimes make them keep their bra on while I fuck them so it makes their tits look bigger. The sauna was pretty standard. She didn’t like to have her legs pulled up close to her head as the penetration was too deep so she kept bending them a little – that was a little annoying. Popped 3 times in 120 minutes and showered. Damage was RMB400 for the girl and RMB88 for the room. I believe the room charge could be waved if I booked in advance. I have the name card if anyone is interested (PM me) but I wouldn’t really recommend it.
Back in the car on the street right outside I saw a few lookers and asked them where Mei Bao was. They pointed me in the right direction and I finally found it. Not easy to find as it is around the corner next to a seafood restaurant. There was a manager on the street and she gave me her card. She was really professional and explained to me the price structure of RMB500 or RMN600 for models for 2 hours, everything included. I regretted not having gone there (I was impatient and should have put more effort into finding it) but will surely be going my next time through CP.
DD
Ok guys...interesting article about how real estate prices are skyrocketing because of prostitutes in China? check it out:
(But the first thing that popped into my head was SEAJOE and his generous givings when he romances girls...I thin he may have single handedly caused this real estate bubble in china)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LE26Ad01.html
HONG KONG - Prostitution is illegal in China, but the police crackdowns recently launched across the country indicate that the "world's oldest profession" is doing as well as ever. In Beijing, there are reportedly so many xiaojie (mistresses) that state media claim their numbers have driven up housing prices.
After efforts to "physically and spiritually" cleanse Beijing for the 2008 Summer Olympic Games, prostitution has made a big comeback, so much so that municipal police launched a citywide "strike hard" vice crackdown in April entitled "Operation 4.11".
Coincidentally, in line with central government policy, the municipal government has also began taking measures (so far in vain) to bring down the city's skyrocketing housing prices.
The two crackdowns, one on social vices and the other on
housing prices, seem unrelated. But a May 14 editorial in the Beijing Evening News, a sister publication of the Beijing Daily - the mouthpiece of the Communist Party's Beijing municipal committee - made an imaginative link between the two.
The article argued that a (downward) turning point in Beijing's property market could be achieved if prostitutes were driven out of the city. Skeptics say the article's flawed reasoning suggests that Beijing authorities are scrambling for a scapegoat for their failure to bring the property market under control.
The editorial, entitled "Turning point will come when all mistresses are driven out of Beijing", estimated that there were 200,000 xiaojie or "mistresses" in Beijing - xiaojie is a face-saving term for prostitutes as the trade is illegal. The article argues that if Beijing police kept up their "strike hard" crackdown, these mistresses could be forced out of the capital within three months. As a result, an extra 200,000 rental flats would be added to the property market. With the sharp increase in supply, "a genuine turning point" would be seen in housing prices.
The article's first confusing premise is that the "more than 200,000 mistresses" working in Beijing could be cleared out of the city within three months. (The assumption that each xiaojie rents a flat is already problematic, since most likely share flats to reduce living costs.)
Since the start of "Operation 4.11", Beijing police have smashed about 400 small prostitution rings, usually working out of hair salons, with some 1,100 suspects detained, according to local media. The operation has been hailed as a "great success", with even high-class night clubs raided, such as Tianshang Renjian or Paradise on Earth, which is rumored to be owned by a Hong Kong tycoon and senior Chinese officials.
However, if after a month such a high-profile crackdown has only been able to net some 1,000 working girls, then it would take 20 years to clear Beijing of 200,000 mistresses. This also doesn't account for newcomers arriving. It is also hard to believe that if mistresses were forced out of the city they would stay away - past experience tells them such anti-vice campaigns are usually short-lived.
Another mistake made by the Beijing Evening News article is that it confuses rentals and sale prices. The two are related to each other - in the long term - but rents do not rise or fall immediately with sale prices, especially when the property market is highly speculative, like Beijing's. One of this author's friends bought a 70-square-meter flat for nearly 1 million yuan (US$146,443) four years ago. It is now worth more than double that, 2.1 million yuan, but the monthly rent has only risen by 30%, from 3,000 to 4,000 yuan.
Most prostitutes come from poor rural areas and use their income to support families at home, they are unlikely to be involved in the sector that has seen the greatest price hikes - luxury housing. While the average price of an apartment in Beijing within the city's Third Ring highway is around 30,000 yuan per square meter, luxury downtown apartments sell at 70,000 yuan per square meter. The average per capita monthly income is only 2,000 yuan.
It is difficult to see how removing prostitutes from Beijing would affect the property market. Moreover, if the owners of flats who rented to "mistresses" wanted to sell their property for profit, they could do so at any time. Why would they wait for the police to scare away their tenants?
Skyrocketing housing prices are an emotive issue in China, particularly in Beijing. Fresh university graduates make about 2,000-3,000 yuan a month if they are lucky enough to find a job. Their total income in a year (without spending) is not even enough to buy a toilet in an average-priced apartment. (See China's middle-classes lose property hope, Apr 23, 2010)
Fully aware that high housing prices could become an issue that threatens social stability, Premier Wen Jiabao pledged that his government would keep housing prices in check until March 2013, the end of its term. The State Council has launched tough measures to curb rising prices, such as tightened restrictions on mortgages for second homes, a ban on unauthorized state-owned enterprises investing in the property market, and threats to punish local officials if local housing prices were not brought under control.
However, as many analysts point out, keeping housing prices high is in the interests of local governments (to boost revenues from land sales) as well as for local officials (to collude with developers for kickbacks). Reducing housing prices may be impossible unless the central government finds a way to rein in local governments and officials.
The Beijing Evening News seems to have chosen an easy target. As prostitution is illegal, the women cannot respond publicly to the attack, only accept it in silence.
SE Asia Joe
06-04-10, 06:05
Moody,
I agree, a lot of second hand smoke, and alcohol that kills your liver. But in terms of crappy singers that's not always the case....at least if you go with SEAJOE, you'll have a good singer to listen to.
AsnDragon
OH WOW!!!
AT LAST..... I found somebody who appreciates my off-key howling and screeching!!
AsnD - something wrong with your hearing - that's about the only ting I can figure out!!
Either that or else you'd like to instead encourage me to keep on singing and NOT smoking!! But HEY - I been good and most times smoke outside the room (unless others are already smoking away!!)
THANKS in any case!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-04-10, 06:10
Hey DD,
I'll be in Dongguan next week and would not mind checking this place out and will report it as well. Since I've not really been to Dongguan before, do you happen to know the name of the street or the general directions from White Swan? Would appreciate it if you can share it :)
Swan Lake Hotel is on Swan Lake Avenue in ChangPing.
Tian Erhu (Putonghua) Tien Ngo Wuh (Cantonese).
Around this area/within walking distance are various BBS's, KTV's and hotels - Clipper, Manhattan, Li Hao, Mayflower, Jun Hui, Jia Yi, etc
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-04-10, 06:13
Ok guys...interesting article about how real estate prices are skyrocketing because of prostitutes in China? check it out:
.
THINK..... what will happen to Chang Ping if they REALLY crack down!!
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
06-04-10, 06:18
THINK..... what will happen to Chang Ping if they REALLY crack down!!
SEAJSeaj,
The question is what are you going to do in the weekend if CP have a crack down and every thing is closed.
Fast Eddie 48
Brilliant, so they are trying to fix high real estate prices by driving out the hookers.... next they will kick out the fat people to drive down the the restaurant prices and the food shortage.
"After efforts to "physically and spiritually" cleanse Beijing for the 2008 Summer Olympic Games, prostitution has made a big comeback, so much so that municipal police launched a citywide "strike hard" vice crackdown in April entitled "Operation 4.11". "
Coming soon Operation 6.9
Dongguan Doug
06-04-10, 09:07
Hey DD,
I'll be in Dongguan next week and would not mind checking this place out and will report it as well. Since I've not really been to Dongguan before, do you happen to know the name of the street or the general directions from White Swan? Would appreciate it if you can share it :)Hey,
You can PM me for the manager's contact info. She was really helpful so I saved it in my phone. I'm currently traveling and don't have the name card with the address on me. Also, I heard they have a shuttle bus that can pick you up anywhere in Dongguan.
DD
Dongguan Doug
06-04-10, 09:11
AsnDragon,
Thanks for the compliments. I took Cialis just to try it out for fun that time but did not see a big difference at all. I paid RMB400 but now that I know it's only 300 I will be sure to ask beforehand. RMB388 is a great deal for CP. My girl was short and I prefer the tall think model looking ones so I will definitely try MeiBao. As you said - you get what you pay for.
DD
Dongguan Doug,
Once again...3 times in 120 minutes is very amazing. I guess I'm just getting old-turning 56 next year...I should start taking Viagra or something. But I'm lucky to be able to pop two times in a Sauna session. I don't know how you do it.
Anyways, Swan Lake Sauna is nothing special. But a lot of people like it, coming up from HK over the weekend, because they can book in advance, waive the room fee or get a cheap discount on the room, pop a girl after 12 midnight and be able to stay in the room overnight, which saves them the room fee in CP. So it's a pretty good deal if you think about it.
The usual fees for the girl is 300 RMB plus 88 RMB for the room. 388 RMB total for a sauna service.
But the quality is not that great. Girls tend to be shorter than other Saunas. But then again different strokes for different folks.
Meibao is pretty good in terms of variety of selection. Still you see short ones, but if you are willing to pay 600 RMB or 700 RMB (inclusive of the room fee) then you get taller and prettier ones. You get what you pay for.
AsnDragon
Meiguoguizi
06-04-10, 13:33
removing sexual services from the Chinese economic system will succeed precisely as well as the U.S.A.'s 'war on drugs'.
culture does respond to education and media... glacially
SE Asia Joe
06-05-10, 02:08
Seaj,
The question is what are you going to do in the weekend if CP have a crack down and every thing is closed.
Fast Eddie 48
Realize you are of course just yanking my chain a bit - and you yourself may not even realize it - but this wise crack of yours does have relevance!
We have been reading about crack downs in other places in China - Beijng, Shanghai, Zhuhai etc - and even about past crack-downs in our beloved CP. What does one do during such times?
Well, guys in BJ/SHA had apparently relied on their trusted "black book" of contacts/past good experiences to get by; I have also done the same in the past during some of the crackdowns in CP - get by with some of my "regulars".
The question though, is what to do if there was a continued and relentless "yellow sweep?" What then? No matter how large one's "regular data base" is, they would eventually all get swept away. Perish the thought!!
Other locales? Zhongshan, Foshan, Dongcheng, CA etc? Heck, if CP gets "swept" I'd imagine other places in S. Guangdong would also get swept.
Guess I can stay home and just revert back to the 141 gals!!
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
06-05-10, 04:33
Realize you are of course just yanking my chain a bit - and you yourself may not even realize it - but this wise crack of yours does have relevance!
We have been reading about crack downs in other places in China - Beijng, Shanghai, Zhuhai etc - and even about past crack-downs in our beloved CP. What does one do during such times?
Well, guys in BJ/SHA had apparently relied on their trusted "black book" of contacts/past good experiences to get by; I have also done the same in the past during some of the crackdowns in CP - get by with some of my "regulars".
The question though, is what to do if there was a continued and relentless "yellow sweep?" What then? No matter how large one's "regular data base" is, they would eventually all get swept away. Perish the thought!!
Other locales? Zhongshan, Foshan, Dongcheng, CA etc? Heck, if CP gets "swept" I'd imagine other places in S. Guangdong would also get swept.
Guess I can stay home and just revert back to the 141 gals!!
SEAJSEAJ,
If they closed all the ktv and sauna in CP many business will also have to closed down ,it is unlikely the city of CP will do that unless crack down is order by the top at tje Guangzhou government.
Fast Eddie 48
What then? No matter how large one's "regular data base" is, they would eventually all get swept away. Perish the thought!!
SEAJ
We print out photos of our databases and trade them like playing cards. Photos on front, vital 'statistics' on back
Team: FuHao
Bats Left,
Sichuan
20
BBBJ 0.700,
Sex 0.823
Tits B
Face 0.772
Body 0.682
2/6/8
, ......
(out of 1.000)
SEAJoe,
Ok perhaps I over-exageratted a bit on your singing ability. But still I've heard of worse. BUt still...I am most impressed with your song selections. You pick songs from the BeeGee's that I have never heard of...like songs way back in the days. And let me tell you I'm a pretty old man.
AsnDragon
OH WOW!!!
AT LAST..... I found somebody who appreciates my off-key howling and screeching!!
AsnD - something wrong with your hearing - that's about the only ting I can figure out!!
Either that or else you'd like to instead encourage me to keep on singing and NOT smoking!! But HEY - I been good and most times smoke outside the room (unless others are already smoking away!!)
THANKS in any case!!
SEAJ
SEAJoe,
Oh no....not the 141 girls. Say it ain't so! throughout the years I've tried a variety of 141 girls. In the beginning out of curiosity....later on out of desperation due to time constraints. The apartment 141 girls are just old. The Hotel 141 girls are pretty decent...on par with CP's higher quality girls with double the price tag and a fraction of the time, service and enthusiasm. Do you know these girls do like 7-8 guys a day for 2 weeks straight? That's even more than a Sauna girl in CP for crying out loud. To revert back to 141 girls...wow..it's better than nothing, but certainly a huge downgrade from CP's young and fresh girls.
Let's hope....pray....that CP and the rest of Dongguan does not get shut down. Because in China...as we all know....anything can happen. All it takes is one guy from up top in the govt. to come down and put an end to the widespread entertainment we so enjoy.
AsnDragon
Realize you are of course just yanking my chain a bit - and you yourself may not even realize it - but this wise crack of yours does have relevance!
We have been reading about crack downs in other places in China - Beijng, Shanghai, Zhuhai etc - and even about past crack-downs in our beloved CP. What does one do during such times?
Well, guys in BJ/SHA had apparently relied on their trusted "black book" of contacts/past good experiences to get by; I have also done the same in the past during some of the crackdowns in CP - get by with some of my "regulars".
The question though, is what to do if there was a continued and relentless "yellow sweep?" What then? No matter how large one's "regular data base" is, they would eventually all get swept away. Perish the thought!!
Other locales? Zhongshan, Foshan, Dongcheng, CA etc? Heck, if CP gets "swept" I'd imagine other places in S. Guangdong would also get swept.
Guess I can stay home and just revert back to the 141 gals!!
SEAJ
Freepeaks,
I KNOW right? I mean... what OTHER brilliant idea are they going to think of next? Kicking out the corrupt govt guys to prevent the uneven distribution and disappearance of stimulus money and people's tax dollars? Sheesh...like that's going to WORK?
oh wait....my suggestion might actually work.
AsnDragon
Brilliant, so they are trying to fix high real estate prices by driving out the hookers.... next they will kick out the fat people to drive down the the restaurant prices and the food shortage.
"After efforts to "physically and spiritually" cleanse Beijing for the 2008 Summer Olympic Games, prostitution has made a big comeback, so much so that municipal police launched a citywide "strike hard" vice crackdown in April entitled "Operation 4.11". "
Coming soon Operation 6.9
Let's hope....pray....that CP and the rest of Dongguan does not get shut down. Because in China...as we all know....anything can happen. All it takes is one guy from up top in the govt. to come down and put an end to the widespread entertainment we so enjoy.
AsnDragonThere will always be something available. It's ingrained in the culture. It will however, get more expensive in the future. The usual formula is one night of sex for one month average wage. As wages go up, so will the price of sex. In the highly unlikely event it does disappear, no big deal, we could all just go to the Ukraine and fuck 5'10" blondes all day, and night. Over there, prostitution is against the law in the way a parking ticket is against the law, no big deal, and the police over there crack down on it like they crack down on illegal parking.
There will always be something available. It's ingrained in the culture. It will however, get more expensive in the future. The usual formula is one night of sex for one month average wage. As wages go up, so will the price of sex. In the highly unlikely event it does disappear, no big deal, we could all just go to the Ukraine and fuck 5'10" blondes all day, and night. Over there, prostitution is against the law in the way a parking ticket is against the law, no big deal, and the police over there crack down on it like they crack down on illegal parking.Moody or any other member, you tell me when you are heading for Ukraina and we assemble a ISG tour ;-) I am seriously thinking about to go there since mongering where I am now is way too expensive and really not worth the money. Poland and the Chez replublic is within hands, but still a more expensive optoins than Ukraina and the girls there are a little bit more hardened. Russia, man I love the russian girls, but for Russia you generally need a Visa and for some reasons I don´t want to encounter or put me at risk to deal with the Russian thugs. Anyway, Ukraina is now on my to do list, so anyone else that wants to go or have some good tip?
Shadowskyy
06-05-10, 12:46
Here it goes. So had me a night out session at a KTV in chang'an just last week. The venue is called DongHao center at the crossing of ErHuan road, Chang'an. A business colleague took me there at around 9pm local time. The entrance had the usual glowing vibrant LED display with huge doors, 4star rating for the decor and amenities. Keep in mind its always best to book in advance to get a special discount. The rooms are very large and spacious with the usual flat panel LCD tv and two large tables for playing the dice game. Upon entry you will be greeted by the usual line of DJ girls (song selection assistant) I was tempted to pull one of the more attractive DJ's out but backed away at last minute since my colleague told me everything's been taken care of. After we settled into the room, the mamasan began the usual sweet friendly talk about how long it's been since we swing by, then the usual line up of flower parade girls came in,. Bummer all were 5 or 6's. Never head out to KTV on a Sunday night, I would say that most usually the top grade girls are out having fun on their own on sundays. So after 5 line ups, we finally settled for 3 girls that were just border line from my standpoint. I was not really keen in any of them so I let my colleagues hook up first. The mamasan was attentive enough to notice that I wasn't game, and she made some phone calls to her off-duty subordinates. Sure enough, 15mins later, a stunner entered the out humble chamber. I immediately notice a bold difference in this girl, I mean she had some of that features that display caucasian traits,.
So she goes explaining that she was from ningxia, and that she had a Chinese father and a canadian mother. Don't know if it was bs
Anyways, she reminds me of that movie star, Aoki, the half japanese-british mix, aoki had the same replica features in that her eyes are oriental. Maybe its because she retained asian blood from her father's side, who knows.
My colleagues are pretty subtle and with the minuted rolling, the girls get raunchier with the alcohol in the mix. We had the usual top less dance and etc, girls were aggressive.
Anyways, I'd rate the attitude standard to be about 7 or 8, everyone was friendly and bubbly. Even the manager was giving an over the top hospitality experience. Wouldn't mind to repeat in the future
I'm probably going to do another session sometime soon, any fellow ISG brothers keen on joining up?
Shadowskyy,
Firstly...you and I both are alike in that I also love Asian Mixed girls. Therefore many of the Dongbei from Heilongjiang have this slight mixing with Russian blood.
However, chances that her mom is Canadian is extremely low. It has to be a BS lie. How many Canadian White women will be with a guy from Ningxia, have a daughter, leave her in China and not care about her and allow her to be a WG? chances are slim.
On the other hand, Ningxia happens to have this unique look to them. Many girls I've encountered from Ningxia do have a bit of Western Traits, perhaps a little inter-mixing with the Middle Easterns? But they sometimes have lighter eye colors, high nose-bridges and look a bit more exotic.
I don't doubt that there may have been some inter-mixing in her bloodline, but Canadian? That's a long shot!
glad you had tons of fun though. Would be curious on what your girl looks like...similar to Aoki?
AsnDragon
I immediately notice a bold difference in this girl, I mean she had some of that features that display caucasian traits,.
So she goes explaining that she was from ningxia, and that she had a Chinese father and a canadian mother. Don't know if it was bs
Anyways, she reminds me of that movie star, Aoki, the half japanese-british mix, aoki had the same replica features in that her eyes are oriental. Maybe its because she retained asian blood from her father's side, who knows.
Dongguan Doug
06-06-10, 07:01
Stopped by the other night to check to see if this placed had reopened (it was closed last time I had tried to go). The place was busy and I spoke to the manager. The room fee is RMB188 and the fee for the girls is RMB600, 700, 900, 1000, 1100. I did not get a chance to try but I found 1100 to be quite expensive. I need to find new places in Dongcheng.
DD
Dongguan Doug
06-08-10, 01:26
Had a business dinner that finished late and decided to go to a sauna. I had visited the Dongcheng International hotel earlier in the week but RMB1100 plus 188 for the room fee is ridiculous. I had heard colleagues of mine mention the Designer Hotel (189 Dongzong East Road, East City Zone, Dongcheng) and decided to give it a try. I arrived around 10:30PM and the manager Mr. Lei (PM for contact his contact info) explained to me the prices: there are 2 categories of girls, 500 and 600 plus the room fee of 38. He accompanied me to a room (the rooms were nothing special and a little old – they had a fuck chair however) and the lineups began. I was shown 4 lineups with 5 girls in each one. Nothing too special at all – I chose number 68 because I couldn't be bothered going to another sauna. Very standard service and I wouldn't recommend this place more than the next.
DD
SE Asia Joe
06-08-10, 13:25
. The usual formula is one night of sex for one month average wage. As wages go up, so will the price of sex..
Errrrr..... damn%^$##@& Foxconn and Honda just raised wages thru the roof!!
And all of us are now gonna be the ones who lose out!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-09-10, 05:24
when our Queer Bird is gonna be making his annual pilgrimage to our shores!!
He's starting to write his diatribe to himself again!!
O...h W....hat a L....ife!!
Waiting all year - just to convince himself for a couple weeks that he's still alive!!
SEAJ
StinkyFeet
06-09-10, 05:39
Very standard service and I wouldn't recommend this place more than the next.
I agree. I changed hotels to houjie since the selection wasn't all that great. For a little while. there was a hunan girl (young like 19 young) that had a awesome ass with nice hips. slender. like a dancer's body. face was not the best and small on the chest. but great hips and ass. a rarity in china.
when our Queer Bird is gonna be making his annual pilgrimage to our shores!!
He's starting to write his diatribe to himself again!!
O...h W....hat a L....ife!!
Mr. Penthouse Forum is back in China? Lock up your daughters everybody because no female in China can resist his charms. And guys, be very careful around him lest he opens up a can o' whoopass on you all. I heard he can take four guys on at once, so unless there's at least five of you, don't make fun of him.
Waiting all year - just to convince himself for a couple weeks that he's still alive!!
SEAJ
doesn't he hang out in those Tijuana brothels the rest of the year or something? I remember somebody saying that.
One Whacky Looneytoon
SE Asia Joe
06-09-10, 06:38
Mr. Penthouse Forum is back in China? Lock up your daughters everybody because no female in China can resist his charms. And guys, be very careful around him lest he opens up a can o' whoopass on you all. I heard he can take four guys on at once, so unless there's at least five of you, don't make fun of him.
doesn't he hang out in those Tijuana brothels the rest of the year or something? I remember somebody saying that.
One Whacky Looneytoon
Yeah - and these days he's got a village idiot tagging along and "quoting" the great master!! Two peas in a pod!
Yeah, rest of the year he's talkin' to himself on his own Tijuana thread.
SEAJ
Here it goes...
So she goes explaining that she was from ningxia, and that she had a Chinese father and a canadian mother. Don't know if it was bs
how do you know a KTV girl is lying? Her lips are moving.
I've had a few relationships with KTV girls, some Platonic. It really is incredible the amount of BS they tell you when you first meet them. There's a reason for it though. You wouldn't know it, but they're actually hiding out. They last thing they want in the world is for somebody to know who they really are. Believe me, 99% of them live in morbid fear somebody back home will found out what they do.
99% of them live in morbid fear somebody back home will found out what they do.
Very true. But the BS they feed back to their parents is golden too. last regular told her parents that she was at factory but a customer took a liking to her and she has boyfriend foreigner. that is how she has 'gifts'. since she was quite beautiful it probably is feasible and they believe.
Anyone try out HaiXia yet? I know it is new, BSD mentioned it before but have not seen a report.
But the BS they feed back to their parents is golden too. last regular told her parents that she was at factory but a customer took a liking to her and she has boyfriend foreigner. that is how she has 'gifts'. since she was quite beautiful it probably is feasible and they believe.
Are any of the lies important? In a fantasy-land where pleasure is the only reason to go there, we're all liars and hiding from "reality." It's like the re-coined motto, "What happens in CP, stays in CP."
Awhile ago, friends noticed that QQ usually have signatures that are pessimistic. Is it any wonder that in a place of so much deception and lost dreams that girls feel so hopeless? Then they go adding additional lies and drama and what-have-nots to their stories for anyone who'd listen. Bottom line: Don't take anything in CP at face value.
For me, I find that the girls have been deceived by men so many times. At this point, they're no longer looking for a knight in shining armor to save/love them. They're looking for the easiest sucker to part with his money. Sob stories told naked in bed is a sure sign for me to pay and say adios. Enjoy CP, avoid the drama.
I have had many girls tell me some sob story about some relative at home that needs surgery etc. I just say something like "that's terrible" and then fuck the shit out of her.
Are any of the lies important? In a fantasy-land where pleasure is the only reason to go there, we're all liars and hiding from "reality." It's like the re-coined motto, "What happens in CP, stays in CP."
Awhile ago, friends noticed that QQ usually have signatures that are pessimistic. Is it any wonder that in a place of so much deception and lost dreams that girls feel so hopeless? Then they go adding additional lies and drama and what-have-nots to their stories for anyone who'd listen. Bottom line: Don't take anything in CP at face value.
For me, I find that the girls have been deceived by men so many times. At this point, they're no longer looking for a knight in shining armor to save/love them. They're looking for the easiest sucker to part with his money. Sob stories told naked in bed is a sure sign for me to pay and say adios. Enjoy CP, avoid the drama.
Feeling a bit adventurous, we took a trip from CP to Chang An for a night of partying. We chose Oscar KTV in Chang An as BSD heard that this KTV is worth trying out. We agreed and headed out.
50 minutes later, we were in CA. It was like 6:30 pm but we heard that Oscar does not start until 7:30. We went into the room and got the info on beers/liquor prices. There are prices for dozens of beer, packages, etc. Best to do the package as the one we did included beers, all food in room, DJ costs, etc. Any beer not finished could be taken back or stored at the KTV.
For some reason, CP does not have a Pizza Hut, so we ordered Pizza Hut in CA. They don't deliver, so we got someone to go pick it up. I believe Oscar provided the ride there and back.
Lineup: Girls came in wearing maroon gowns. Small tits? No, it's just that the gowns were not padded nor did they wear a bra. I got a cute, slender, jet-black haired girl who immediately showed her affections and held on to my arms from that point till end of the night. One of the most attached companions I've had at a KTV. Very GFE in the room. There was perhaps 4 guys who selected and 5 girls in the room. One of the girls won't let others touch her, so she was a dud. The others were ok, but I'm not sure they offered enough to be taken out.
Fun: We played games, drank, listened to the KTV songs. No singing, some minimal drinking. I think the Pizza filled the guys up (the girls refused to eat Western food), so very little drinking went on. Perhaps this made for a subdued atmosphere. 10 pm or so, it was dance time. Few girls came out and danced. This is supposed to be a naked KTV, but none of the girls got into it. In fact, the dancing and nakedness sucked. The girls selected were just duds. Perhaps they were not drunk enough. Perhaps they sensed that we were too gentlemenly to party wildly. In any case, it ended without anyone breaking a sweat.
End: We ended the evening around 11. Those who took girls home had to coordinate to take the girls back the next day. But of course, some girls left earlier (in the morning) and some left in the afternoon, so such coordination is quite difficult.
For me, I find that the girls have been deceived by men so many times. At this point, they're no longer looking for a knight in shining armor to save/love them. They're looking for the easiest sucker to part with his money. Sob stories told naked in bed is a sure sign for me to pay and say adios. Enjoy CP, avoid the drama.
As many times as girls have been deceived by guys, guys have been deceived by girls, and probably lots more of them.
Lots of stories of girls being deceived by guys is really BS, not that they're lying about it, but that they're often one sided interpretations. Honestly though, what is a guy going to deceive a girl about? That he's going to marry them? That he's going to support them? He's going to give them money? Lets say a guy does lie to the girl about all these things, but to what end? To get into her pants? Ok, lets say that's the goal. So what's the scenario? A guy comes into a KTV, tells a girl he's going to support her, so the girl agrees to sleep with him and then he renegs on the deal and doesn't give her anything and fucks her for free. Does that happen? Probably not often if EVER.
A more likely scenario is a guy becomes a girl's regular john for a while, then after a certain point, offers things, like support. Girl quits the biz, relies on the guy supporting her, and then the guy changes his mind and the girl has to go back to work. That is probably the most common scenario. Come on though, the guy was a john, and the girl was a hooker. She had to know in the back of her mind that the guy was going to find other girls, perhaps other girls he likes more than her. So the guy leaves, and the girl, who may have loved the guy, is heartbroken, more likely she just misses the money. Also, why did the guy leave? The girls never ever tell you that. Most likely, the girl drove him nuts somehow.
Another scenario may be that the guy offers to marry the girl and take her out of the hooking life, then later, doesn't marry her. Again, what happened before that? Did the guy meet her in a KTV and out of the blue offer to marry her so he can fuck her for free? Of course not. Again, most likely, a similar situation as before. Maybe the guy even loved the girl at one point, but guys backing out of marriage proposals isn't unheard of. The point is, the guy wasn't proposing marriage to get a free lay.
I know one girl, she was having an affair with a married guy who had 3 kids. She got along fine with the relationship for about 3 years. During this time, he supported her and she was cool with things. Of course she also screwed around on him, she told me she probably picked up at least 30 guys in nightclubs during the 3 years she was with him. Then one day she found out he also had another mistress, in addition to his wife. She flew off the handle and left him because he lied to her during their time together and if there's one thing she can't abide, is a person lying to her. Of course she doesn't think she ever lied to the guy though, because he never asked her if she screwed around behind his back.
I know another girl, she was working at a high end place in SZ for a while. She was a looker. She had a customer who regularly came to see her and one day, he brought a friend. Apparently, this friend was smitten with the girl. So the friend starts asking her out on dates and stuff. After a couple months, he tells the girl he's going to marry her. He has a wife, but no kids, but he no longer loves his wife. He tells her that if he divorces his wife, he will have to give her everything, including his car and apartment, and will have to pay her a stipend every month. He loves her though, and he's willing to do it. They will have to live on only a few thousand a month until he's back on his feet which may take years. She agrees and the guy tells his wife he wants a divorce. A week later, the girl changes her mind, and realizes she doesn't want to live like a commoner in a dinky rental for the next decade. The guy ends up divorced anyway.
I used to hear tons of stories like these. Girls love telling war stories about how they screw guys over. A friend's girlfriend used to work KTV (before she became independently wealthy) and all her girlfriends worked KTV, and we used to hang out a lot and talk. They all worked at places like Golden Times, Panglin, Landmark, and other high end places.
The lies girls tell aren't important at all, until some dude falls for it. I'm not saying I never fell for the BS either. I have on more than one occasion. If a girl tells you sad stuff, the natural reaction is to help her out if you can. The thing is, most of these girls are lying to you. Furthermore, they all tell you things from their point of view. The girls tell you they were deceived, but they never admit to having deceived anyone, when most likely, they have, and I don't mean just lying about where they're from and their real name.
P.S. I know one girl, who used to give herself bruises on purpose. She said once guys see them and she lays on some story about being beaten up by her previous john, they more often than not, feel very sorry and tip her extra.
Moody,
I thought I was the one thought so deeply into the whole mongering aspect of things. Apparently, you've had your inner questionings about working girls and even helpful tips at avoiding being tricked by one of them.
I agree with you whole heartedly about girls lying in this profession. In fact, i completely agree with you that girls on average probably lie more than guys do. From your experiences it seems that over the years of mongering you've grown cold to those "deceitful" words that girls throw around to hook on a guy.
I think most girls, not all, are seeking for a guy to get them outta their current situation. I don't blame them for lying through their teeth to achieve their goals. I mean who wants to be a working girl? Drinking, lying, acting and being pumped by random guys who you don't like or find disgusting.
However, on the flip side, i do hear a lot of HK and Taiwan mongers that really lie and cheat a lot of girls though. I personally know tons of HK guys that cross the border into CP, try to start relationships that they can't carry through because it's cheaper and they get more of a thrill out of playing with girl's emotions and getting freebies. They promise the world and in the end they really screw with the girls. They especially pick the girls who are new to the profession so they can easily get their way with them. All the pros who've been in this industry for a while can see through their lies, so they always pick on more "innocent" victims. I use the word "more innnocent" because when you are in a town like CP, you obviously know what guy's agenda for coming into town is.
In the end as you've said before, it's just a game. A game of you lie to them they lie to you type of fantasy. I mean I come into town, pick up young pretty girls that say they love me and find me to be so special and everything. But in all reality, I know for a fact that a young 18 year old isn't going to like an overweight 56 year old guy like me who's old enough to be her grandfather almost. But once again, a lie is still sweet enough to attract guys to keep coming back. Cause we're all here to run away from our real lives so we can partake in this temporary fantasy.
AsnDragon
As many times as girls have been deceived by guys, guys have been deceived by girls, and probably lots more of them.
Lots of stories of girls being deceived by guys is really BS, not that they're lying about it, but that they're often one sided interpretations. Honestly though, what is a guy going to deceive a girl about? That he's going to marry them? That he's going to support them? He's going to give them money? Lets say a guy does lie to the girl about all these things, but to what end? To get into her pants? Ok, lets say that's the goal. So what's the scenario? A guy comes into a KTV, tells a girl he's going to support her, so the girl agrees to sleep with him and then he renegs on the deal and doesn't give her anything and fucks her for free. Does that happen? Probably not often if EVER.
A more likely scenario is a guy becomes a girl's regular john for a while, then after a certain point, offers things, like support. Girl quits the biz, relies on the guy supporting her, and then the guy changes his mind and the girl has to go back to work. That is probably the most common scenario. Come on though, the guy was a john, and the girl was a hooker. She had to know in the back of her mind that the guy was going to find other girls, perhaps other girls he likes more than her. So the guy leaves, and the girl, who may have loved the guy, is heartbroken, more likely she just misses the money. Also, why did the guy leave? The girls never ever tell you that. Most likely, the girl drove him nuts somehow.
Another scenario may be that the guy offers to marry the girl and take her out of the hooking life, then later, doesn't marry her. Again, what happened before that? Did the guy meet her in a KTV and out of the blue offer to marry her so he can fuck her for free? Of course not. Again, most likely, a similar situation as before. Maybe the guy even loved the girl at one point, but guys backing out of marriage proposals isn't unheard of. The point is, the guy wasn't proposing marriage to get a free lay.
I know one girl, she was having an affair with a married guy who had 3 kids. She got along fine with the relationship for about 3 years. During this time, he supported her and she was cool with things. Of course she also screwed around on him, she told me she probably picked up at least 30 guys in nightclubs during the 3 years she was with him. Then one day she found out he also had another mistress, in addition to his wife. She flew off the handle and left him because he lied to her during their time together and if there's one thing she can't abide, is a person lying to her. Of course she doesn't think she ever lied to the guy though, because he never asked her if she screwed around behind his back.
I know another girl, she was working at a high end place in SZ for a while. She was a looker. She had a customer who regularly came to see her and one day, he brought a friend. Apparently, this friend was smitten with the girl. So the friend starts asking her out on dates and stuff. After a couple months, he tells the girl he's going to marry her. He has a wife, but no kids, but he no longer loves his wife. He tells her that if he divorces his wife, he will have to give her everything, including his car and apartment, and will have to pay her a stipend every month. He loves her though, and he's willing to do it. They will have to live on only a few thousand a month until he's back on his feet which may take years. She agrees and the guy tells his wife he wants a divorce. A week later, the girl changes her mind, and realizes she doesn't want to live like a commoner in a dinky rental for the next decade. The guy ends up divorced anyway.
I used to hear tons of stories like these. Girls love telling war stories about how they screw guys over. A friend's girlfriend used to work KTV (before she became independently wealthy) and all her girlfriends worked KTV, and we used to hang out a lot and talk. They all worked at places like Golden Times, Panglin, Landmark, and other high end places.
The lies girls tell aren't important at all, until some dude falls for it. I'm not saying I never fell for the BS either. I have on more than one occasion. If a girl tells you sad stuff, the natural reaction is to help her out if you can. The thing is, most of these girls are lying to you. Furthermore, they all tell you things from their point of view. The girls tell you they were deceived, but they never admit to having deceived anyone, when most likely, they have, and I don't mean just lying about where they're from and their real name.
P.S. I know one girl, who used to give herself bruises on purpose. She said once guys see them and she lays on some story about being beaten up by her previous john, they more often than not, feel very sorry and tip her extra.
When I read Bruce writing about this I can't help but smile. I met Bruce a couple months back and I've seen the way he talks to these girls and you wouldn't believe how smooth he is with his words. On more than one occasion I've seen girls completely blush and taken by his charm. The way he can say things to girls to make them believe him and entrust in him is almost like an art. I don't know exactly what he says to the girls, but one things for sure, he's sayin' the right things to get his way with most of them. Once he's spotted a girl, he marks them as "bruce tea girl" and he's always successful in getting the girl to do what he wants..90% of the time at least.
AsnDragon
Are any of the lies important? In a fantasy-land where pleasure is the only reason to go there, we're all liars and hiding from "reality." It's like the re-coined motto, "What happens in CP, stays in CP."
Awhile ago, friends noticed that QQ usually have signatures that are pessimistic. Is it any wonder that in a place of so much deception and lost dreams that girls feel so hopeless? Then they go adding additional lies and drama and what-have-nots to their stories for anyone who'd listen. Bottom line: Don't take anything in CP at face value.
For me, I find that the girls have been deceived by men so many times. At this point, they're no longer looking for a knight in shining armor to save/love them. They're looking for the easiest sucker to part with his money. Sob stories told naked in bed is a sure sign for me to pay and say adios. Enjoy CP, avoid the drama.
Meiguoguizi
06-12-10, 07:56
Moody,
I agree with you whole heartedly about girls lying in this profession. In fact, i completely agree with you that girls on average probably lie more than guys do. From your experiences it seems that over the years of mongering you've grown cold to those "deceitful" words that girls throw around to hook on a guy.
However, on the flip side, i do hear a lot of HK and Taiwan mongers that really lie and cheat a lot of girls though. I personally know tons of HK guys that cross the border into CP, try to start relationships that they can't carry through because it's cheaper and they get more of a thrill out of playing with girl's emotions and getting freebies. They promise the world and in the end they really screw with the girls.
AsnDragon
Guys lying to girls to get laid. Girls lying to guys to get married.
Guys using money to get a better looking girl. Girls using sex to get a richer guy.
Is that CP, or evolutionary biology? Maybe the only difference is that the CP KTV transaction is MORE HONEST than the mating dance anywhere else, and concentrated into one evening and one morning instead of thousands of years.
OldAsiaHand
06-13-10, 04:37
First of all, I don't post on this thread in over a month and nobody even asks about it. I guess I am just an over the hill, useless contributor to this forum. I contribute for over 7 years and what do I get in return? :-((((((
Enough feeling sorry for myself. In CP last week for the first time in a month or so only to find that the catacombs, night market and BBS row behind Hui Mei are all closed. Yalan BBS area is operating but many new locations as they move to stay ahead of the LE. Most KTV and saunas (Jindele was closed one day, open the next) seem to be operating but are they next? Will the crackdown ever end and the scene return to normal?
I pulled a couple of BBS girls from Hua Hua. I've been doing business with this mommy for 7-8 years and she can normally be trusted to give me the real scoop on her girls' performance. Michelle offered me a white tiger but I told her to keep it for SEAJ! She was pretty hot though.
The second BBS girl gave me one of the best BBBJTCWS of any I have had in CP. Wadman, take note!
I tried the Clipper sauna. The are running an introductory promotion with 100 RMB coupon. The line-up quality wasn't bad and the rooms have been re-decorated and quite nice. Normal room is 388 and VIP room 418 inclusive with the coupon. Difference is the size plus shower bed vs. an in room steam chamber.
I stopped by the Xue Ying Tang (???) near the train station to have a look at the line-ups. I normally go for the 75 RMB footie with egg white HJ but I wanted to check out the 70 minutes FS option at 198 RMB inclusive. After selecting a girl, the manager told me they started to charge a 100 RMB laowai surcharge. I left pissed off and told her that I would ask all my friends to boycott the place. If I still have any friends on this forum, I would appreciate your cooperation. The place is a dump anyway, the rooms are filthy without any extra amenities and most of the girls are 3-4s.
Just my POV.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
06-13-10, 04:44
This subject has been discussed on this forum numerous times. If I had 100 RMB every time I've heard the same BS from working girls, I could monger for the rest of my life with the proceeds.
All of a sudden my Chinese language comprehension becomes extremetly limited to "I want you to suck on this or let me stick it in".
Just my POV.
OAH
First of all, I don't post on this thread in over a month and nobody even asks about it. I guess I am just an over the hill, useless contributor to this forum. I contribute for over 7 years and what do I get in return? (((((
Enough feeling sorry for myself. In CP last week for the first time in a month or so only to find that the catacombs, night market and BBS row behind Hui Mei are all closed. Yalan BBS area is operating but many new locations as they move to stay ahead of the LE. Most KTV and saunas (Jindele was closed one day, open the next) seem to be operating but are they next? Will the crackdown ever end and the scene return to normal?
I pulled a couple of BBS girls from Hua Hua. I've been doing business with this mommy for 7-8 years and she can normally be trusted to give me the real scoop on her girls' performance. Michelle offered me a white tiger but I told her to keep it for SEAJ! She was pretty hot though.
The second BBS girl gave me one of the best BBBJTCWS of any I have had in CP. Wadman, take note!
I tried the Clipper sauna. The are running an introductory promotion with 100 RMB coupon. The line-up quality wasn't bad and the rooms have been re-decorated and quite nice. Normal room is 388 and VIP room 418 inclusive with the coupon. Difference is the size plus shower bed vs. An in room steam chamber.
I stopped by the Xue Ying Tang (?) near the train station to have a look at the line-ups. I normally go for the 75 RMB footie with egg white HJ but I wanted to check out the 70 minutes FS option at 198 RMB inclusive. After selecting a girl, the manager told me they started to charge a 100 RMB laowai surcharge. I left pissed off and told her that I would ask all my friends to boycott the place. If I still have any friends on this forum, I would appreciate your cooperation. The place is a dump anyway, the rooms are filthy without any extra amenities and most of the girls are 3-4s.
Just my POV.
OAHOAH
Thanks for the update. We do appreciate your field report. We just assume that you may be laying low due to work.
I will make sure that I try Michelle and give her some "rogaine" to use and apply it for her properly before sending her off to SEAJ. I want to make sure the SEAJ don't think that I back to my ole bad habit for shaving them smooth. Even though that I'm not a laowai, I will boycott XYT.
First of all, I don't post on this thread in over a month and nobody even asks about it. I guess I am just an over the hill, useless contributor to this forum. I contribute for over 7 years and what do I get in return? :-((((((
OAH
I for one am always glad to see you posting. ;)
This subject has been discussed on this forum numerous times. If I had 100 RMB every time I've heard the same BS from working girls, I could monger for the rest of my life with the proceeds.
All of a sudden my Chinese language comprehension becomes extremetly limited to "I want you to suck on this or let me stick it in".
Just my POV.
OAH
I don't listen to the sick buffalo stories. I don't listen to the roommate robbed me stories. I don't listen to the pimp beats me up stories. I don't listen to the just of off the train yesterday stories. I don't listen to the boyfriend did me wrong stories. I do however on occasion listen to the perverted Korean guy made me do weird things stories. ;)
Also, my answer to the inevitable question, "are you married?" is always "yes, and I have five wives. Wanna be number six?"
Moody,
I thought I was the one thought so deeply into the whole mongering aspect of things. Apparently, you've had your inner questionings about working girls and even helpful tips at avoiding being tricked by one of them.
I agree with you whole heartedly about girls lying in this profession. In fact, i completely agree with you that girls on average probably lie more than guys do. From your experiences it seems that over the years of mongering you've grown cold to those "deceitful" words that girls throw around to hook on a guy.
AsnDragon
I'm not a really hardcore guy. I think it's just that I used to meet a lot of KTV girls out of KTV. I'm telling you, girls are hardcore. One minute they look as innocent as Bambi, next minute, they're talking about how they fucked a guy over. I'm just warning people, you might feel sympathetic for their plight or whatever and be tempted to help them or start falling for them or whatever. That's a really bad thing to do because most likely, you're just gonna get used and spat out. That aside, I immensely enjoy KTV. I don't think I remember ever having a bad time in one, even when my friends cause trouble and stuff. Believe me, on more than a couple occasions, my friends have caused ugly ugly troubles. We always laugh about it the next day though, so it's all good.
First of all, I don't post on this thread in over a month and nobody even asks about it. I guess I am just an over the hill, useless contributor to this forum. I contribute for over 7 years and what do I get in return? :-((((((
OAH,
You've contributed much to this forum and also to other members like me. I am pretty sure many senior members will vouch this fact. It's always great to read yr contributions.
Let me know when you are in Shanghai. We must catch up again.
Hoeman...
SE Asia Joe
06-13-10, 05:56
First of all, I don't post on this thread in over a month and nobody even asks about it. I guess I am just an over the hill, useless contributor to this forum. I contribute for over 7 years and what do I get in return? :-((((((
Enough feeling sorry for myself. In CP last week for the first time in a month or so ......
OAH
Oh... Poor Poor OAH. There there there..!
You said it yourself - you ain't been to CP for at least a month - and I know that it's becoz you, like all of us, do need to do some work some time!!
Hey, everytime I get together with you these days it's been like a f...kin' whirlwind - no wonder you ain't been posting. But then again ALL of us ISG posters are only as good as our last post. You could have posted forever and only posted great write-ups - but one bad one and you're in the toilet.
Worse of course are these newbies and/or serial antagonist wannabes - who's only mission on ISG seems to be to discredit others. At least you can be glad that you ain 't got one of these idiots on your tail.......YET!! Watch out old man, watch out!!
Muahahaha!!
SEAJ
First of all, I don't post on this thread in over a month and nobody even asks about it. I guess I am just an over the hill, useless contributor to this forum. I contribute for over 7 years and what do I get in return? :
I thought you and SEAJ were the same person. Same writing style, same helpfulness, same complimentary close.
hmm.....
SE Asia Joe
06-13-10, 06:01
I thought you and SEAJ were the same person. Same writing style, same helpfulness, same complimentary close.
hmm.....
Nope - I smell lots better!
SEAJ
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I stopped by the Xue Ying Tang (???) near the train station to have a look at the line-ups. I normally go for the 75 RMB footie with egg white HJ but I wanted to check out the 70 minutes FS option at 198 RMB inclusive. After selecting a girl, the manager told me they started to charge a 100 RMB laowai surcharge. I left pissed off and told her that I would ask all my friends to boycott the place. If I still have any friends on this forum, I would appreciate your cooperation. The place is a dump anyway, the rooms are filthy without any extra amenities and most of the girls are 3-4s.
Where is this place ? It's not the same place as Jin Di Li ?
I forgot who's better looking between you two :).
Big Swingin Dave
06-13-10, 11:01
I stopped by the Xue Ying Tang (???) near the train station to have a look at the line-ups. I normally go for the 75 RMB footie with egg white HJ but I wanted to check out the 70 minutes FS option at 198 RMB inclusive. After selecting a girl, the manager told me they started to charge a 100 RMB laowai surcharge. I left pissed off and told her that I would ask all my friends to boycott the place. If I still have any friends on this forum, I would appreciate your cooperation. The place is a dump anyway, the rooms are filthy without any extra amenities and most of the girls are 3-4s.
Just my POV.
OAHThe correct name for the place OAH is referring to is "Yu Zu Tang" 御足堂，coming out of the train station go right toward the direction of the Penninsula hotel， about 1/8 mile to the left you will see Yu Zu Tang. OAH should have stayed with the 70RMB footie, no surcharge for using extra egg whites "wink wink"...
BSD
SE Asia Joe
06-13-10, 11:40
Where is this place ? It's not the same place as Jin Di Li ?
I forgot who's better looking between you two :).
YOU MAY FORGET -But I KNOW that both of us - OAH and I - are way way better looking than you!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-13-10, 14:41
You want Fresh??? You got fresh!!
Name: Ho Ho, originally from Xiao Guan, Guangdong.
Where: newly arrived at Mommie Sandy‘s new shop (or Sammi as she was known at the Old Jun Hui KTV) in the alley way opposite Swan Lake Hotel.
Face: 3/5
Body 2.5/5
Skill: What skill?
Service: What – me servicing her counts or not?
Price: RMB 100 to Sandy, 100 to her, plus tips.
Meetings, appointments, official dinner in Guangzhou, smile, shake hands, pay compliments, stupid niceties, laugh at stupid jokes, smile, smile …… and here I was at the White Swan hotel, and it was only 8:30! Of course I jumped into a taxi and rushed over to the GZ East station and high-tailed it out to CP Pronto!
Got in, a quick shower, changed clothes, had BS Dave call around to make sure some of the BBS’s were open and stocked and I was at Sandy’s shop before 10! Soon as I walk in, Sandy grabbed me and told me that she’s been saving “just the right gal” for me!! Yeah – right, as if I’m NOT just another John!! New, Fresh, Speaks Cantonese, pretty and obedient she barked at me – what more do you want??
B..tch – she got me there – especially since there were only maybe 6 or 7 other gals – a couple I’d done previously and who were lousy and others that were really the bottom of the barrel. Out comes Ho-Ho, all nice and friendly and pliant and….. dumb!! I mean, how is it that one can figure out a gal is dumb just by looking at her for a second – but I knew she was dumb as soon as I saw her!!
OH…. SO HAPPY…. When I said OK; practically jumping up and down, amazed at her good luck… and all chatty right away. Walking back up the alley she practically told me her life history…… and that she was hungry!! She hadn’t eaten the whole day as she’s broke!! Believe it!!
OK, OK, the 3 of us marched up to the Legend café and had dinner (the 2nd one for me!!) and she told us that it’s only her 3rd day at work. Was betrothed to some local villager, couldn’t stand him/refused him and the parents then basically locked her up!! Cooked, cleaned, did the laundry and…. nothing else for the past 2 years!! Quarreled with the parents, ran away and somehow managed to get to CP….where she walked straight into Sandy’s open arms!
OK – back to my room, took off her clothes, took a shower as if she was right at home and then she jumped into bed…. And just laid there! Oh, still all cheery and friendly – and did ZILCH! Hmmmm…. OK, what to do? OK, what the hell!! Started this, that and whatever and slowly, slowly, got her a bit enthused. And all along, she’d let me do whatever I wanted!! Oh and did I mention it?? Another Hairy one I’ve got here!! And all along, still chatty; telling me that her “fiancé” had gimpy legs and how ugly he was, the second guy she screwed was her customer night before last and who came in 30 seconds flat, her third was a guy who took so long that she was sooooo pissed off, that she went straight after that and sat at the BBQ stand – by herself – ate...and drank so much beer ….that she spent ALL the left-over money she’d earned past 2 nights!! (after room rent and a couple meals, make up etc). And then ran out of time on her telephone and not have enough to re-charge. Oh how happy she is that I got her – otherwise she’d starve to death!! Incredible this gal!! Incredible how dumb she is!!
And oh – she came BIG TIME – as of course I introduced my trusty bullet vibrators into the equation. And MAN…. She went to town on them!! Stuck one into herself, took one to liberate her clit… and had me minister the rest of her pussy with yet another bullet!! And after she got off….many times…. I told her to start servicing me. OH, OK, she then laid back and just waited for me to mount!! That’s it!!
Blow me I told her – and she said “WHAT?? What do you want me to do??!!”
“Blow me…suck me here, lick me, make me happy!!”
“WHAT?? That’s weird, that’s nasty, that’s perverted!!” And she said all this in perfect naïveté. Not a trace of pretense or any indications whatever that she’s trying to pull a fast one on me. Really!!
“OK, let me teach you.”
“NO!!”
“Oh come on, I made you happy – make me happy.”
“NO!!”
“Come on, please, you want my balls to turn blue and explode?? You gotta do it!!” “Really?”
“Yes really!!”
“ ….. OK just a bit, try a bit”
And that’s what she did - exactly and so badly, no matter how I coached her, that I just gave up. Put on the gloves and just pounded her…. Mercilessly!!
And after all that?? Happier than a pig in a poke… and rubbing her tummy… telling me that she’s sore there… and happy… and tired…and hungry again!!
First time I’d done this… really the first time with any gal…. But here I was …. helping her get dressed!! But the funny thing is that both of us were still laughing and talking and pulling each other’s chain and laughing some more…..all the way to the door when I threw her out.
Incredible!
SEAJ
Ps. A few pictures of the gal on the Photo Gallery thread.
Incredible this gal!! Incredible how dumb she is!!
Going off topic in relation to brains, here's something I found floating around.
Sex is like math
You subtract the clothes
Add the bed
Divide the legs
And pray to god you don't multiply
Going off topic in relation to brains, here's something I found floating around.
Sex is like math
You subtract the clothes
Add the bed
Divide the legs
And pray to god you don't multiplyFinally, I know why i like math so much.
Thank you
Cunning Linguist
06-13-10, 19:53
You want Fresh??? You got fresh!!
Name: Ho Ho, originally from Xiao Guan, Guangdong.
Where: newly arrived at Mommie Sandy‘s new shop (or Sammi as she was known at the Old Jun Hui KTV) in the alley way opposite Swan Lake Hotel.
Face: 3/5
Body 2.5/5
Skill: What skill?
Service: What – me servicing her counts or not?
Price: RMB 100 to Sandy, 100 to her, plus tips.
Ps. A few pictures of the gal on the Photo Gallery thread.
Now that is what I am hoping to find when I get there in a couple of months! Do you think she will be around then? I hope she speaks Mandarin.
Nope - I smell lots better!
SEAJ
Yep, like a swedish blond princess! Ho,ho,ho!
Yep, like a swedish blond princess! Ho,ho,ho!
Yeh, it's hard to beat guys that are under 30, both over 6 ft 3", blonde, blue eyes one from Sweden. For OAH I don't know.
Oh, both work out at a gym every week.
SE Asia Joe
06-14-10, 05:51
Yeh, it's hard to beat guys that are under 30, both over 6 ft 3", blonde, blue eyes one from Sweden. For OAH I don't know.
Oh, both work out at a gym every week.
Every ..... WEEK???
Nah, a bit more often than that! Gotta do it regularly to maintain body beautiful.
ON the other hand, working out is NOT only to keep oneself attractive - and it's also NOT just to be able to defend oneself if one ever gets into a pickle.
OAH and I, we had a discussion on this with Pig Fat - and we all agree that we work out for the inner peace and feelings of self satisfaction that a good session at the gym brings about.
You gotta start Weelock!!
SEAJ
Dan Hawaii
06-14-10, 09:09
I thought you and SEAJ were the same person. Same writing style, same helpfulness, same complimentary close.
hmm.....
Same sexual appetite, age, figure, etc...
Young studs. ;)
Dan Hawaii
06-14-10, 09:21
I need help making up a really good story to tell the family so I can go to CP. They kind of know why I have been going to "Hong Kong" all this time, but now it's different. Anyways, long story short.
I need a good reason for me to go to Hong Kong. I'm thinking to do business or something. Or SEAJoe, make a fake wedding invitation for me and send it over so I have to attend your wedding or something.
Any ideas?
I'd like to be back there in August, couple of my good friends from Cali are going.
SE Asia Joe
06-14-10, 09:21
Now that is what I am hoping to find when I get there in a couple of months! Do you think she will be around then? I hope she speaks Mandarin.
Errrr..... how do I explain this??!!
OK - I KNOW that I've told you in the past that just about everybody in China, including CP - they all speak Mandarin/Putonghua.
Well - yes, that's what I thought. Really!!
]But this Ho-Ho... this ding-a-ling, she told me that when she went to school, she was only taught in Cantonese, and by the time that Putonghua was compulsory at school, she had already been pulled out (no $$ to go to school). As a result, she really speaks very little and horrible Mandarin.
Incredible but true!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-14-10, 09:24
I need help making up a really good story to tell the family so I can go to CP. They kind of know why I have been going to "Hong Kong" all this time, but now it's different. Anyways, long story short.
I need a good reason for me to go to Hong Kong. I'm thinking to do business or something. Or SEAJoe, make a fake wedding invitation for me and send it over so I have to attend your wedding or something.
Not a problem - just e-mail me back and tell me when you need an excuse for and what kind of function you need to be invited to.
I'll e-mail you back an official invitation to the function you want to go to and which my company suppossedly hosts.
OK?
SEAJ
Dan Hawaii
06-14-10, 09:37
Not a problem - just e-mail me back and tell me when you need an excuse for and what kind of function you need to be invited to.
I'll e-mail you back an official invitation to the function you want to go to and which my company suppossedly hosts.
OK?
SEAJ
Thanks Joe. I really have no real good idea what kind of story to use.
But the reason needs to be:
1. simple enough, so I don't have to lie so much and explain in so much detail
2. has to be strong enough so I have to go.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Jettsetter
06-14-10, 11:02
Thanks Joe. I really have no real good idea what kind of story to use.
But the reason needs to be:
1. simple enough, so I don't have to lie so much and explain in so much detail
2. has to be strong enough so I have to go.
Anyone got any suggestions?
Dan,
what general type of work do you do? Something that COULD involve China? If so, then work your angle and we can all support it somehow. All of us end up doing something in China. I'm lucky enough where I do make a bit of an income going there, although I could easily NOT go and make the same income... but hell, that's not what everyone else thinks, so might as well do it while I"m there, right?
So some excuses, given China is the up and coming powerhouse of the world is:
1. Investment Opportunities (but you need some bank to make it happen) - and perhaps actually invest.
2. Meet with clients (if you have a client oriented type of business)
3. Say you're going somewhere ELSE and end up in China (i.e. going to a place where they'd think you were crazy for going, but you HAVE to go for "training"... but hope nobody checks your passport.
4. Medical trip - lots of folks go overseas for medical reasons (cheaper) - i.e. Thailand, Philippines ( for dentistry), etc... usually can save a ton of $$... but then again, I wouldn't count China as the top of my list for medical treatments... (obviously you need a reason or need to actually do it).
5. Fairs - but the Big Canton Fair isn't until October...
That's all I got for now... I luckily use the "business" excuse... but through time it stopped being an excuse and it actually started happening.. so it's all good...
Anyways, if you need some backup, let us know, lots of brothers are more than willing to help other brothers out... I know that my support system has been strengthened by my brothers actually meeting up in my area so there are actually guys with faces and names to the stories I tell...
Best,
J
I need a good reason for me to go to Hong Kong. I'm thinking to do business or something. Or SEAJoe, make a fake wedding invitation for me and send it over so I have to attend your wedding or something.
Tell them I'm your brother from another mother. Come over for a DNA test.
I'm your long lost relative who claims to have a heirloom that belongs to your family. I could send a mysterious letter requiring your immediate presence. Ever read Nicholas Sparks novels?
Tell them you want to adopt a china child. Come look at the merchandise first.
Tell them your childhood friend Bruce needs your business skills to start up a business in China. Bruce is one dumb fuck who can't speak a lick of English.
the wedding idea is pretty gold.
Fast Eddie 48
06-14-10, 16:38
I need help making up a really good story to tell the family so I can go to CP. They kind of know why I have been going to "Hong Kong" all this time, but now it's different. Anyways, long story short.
I need a good reason for me to go to Hong Kong. I'm thinking to do business or something. Or SEAJoe, make a fake wedding invitation for me and send it over so I have to attend your wedding or something.
Any ideas?
I'd like to be back there in August, couple of my good friends from Cali are going.Dan,
Just tell your wife you got business in China monkey business that is ,just skip hong kong too expensive but you can buy gold cheap there.
Fast eddie 48
the wedding idea is pretty gold.
Wedding idea is good. But it is a one time use only - maybe twice... tough sell after that. Investment would make sense, perhaps, the real estate market in HK has taken a hit and there is an opportunity to invest but I want to go see the property in the area.
Trade Shows - there are always trade shows in HK
http://www.hkcec.com/visitors/event-calendar?page=9
go to www-hkcec-com and look for event at the time you are going...
or www-asiaworld-expo-com
Period: 06/08/2010 - 08/08/2010
Event Name: 2010 Hong Kong High-End Audio-Visual Show
06/08/2010 - 08/08/2010
Event Name: The 18th International Baby/Children Products Expo and 22nd Hong Kong Baby Crawling Contest
12/08/2010 - 16/08/2010
Event Name: HKTDC Food Expo
(import food! you live on an island!)
12/08/2010 - 16/08/2010
Event Name: International Conference & Exhibition of the Modernization of Chinese Medicine & Health Products
Period: 12/08/2010 - 14/08/2010
Event Name: Hong Kong International Tea Fair
Period: 20/08/2010 - 23/08/2010
Event Name: Hong Kong Computer & Communications Festival 2010
26/08/2010 - 28/08/2010
Event Name: Natural Products Expo Asia 2010
If you go to a 'jewelry' show you could always buy something in Luohu to cover your story ('a sample') or you could actually go for a day and have the badge and a handful of brochures...small price to pay.
you could even email a company there for 'invitation' to fair which will get you in free. Just have to pick the right show. That is only for the two main HK venues but there are many more (Canton Fair) and other smaller fairs in Shenzhen...
Shenzhen Hometex 2010(August)
Aug,7—10
Shenzhen Sex Culture Festival 2010
Aug,6—8
The 2nd SCAF
Aug,12—16
The Exhibition of UICC World Cancer Congress 2010
Aug,18—21
International Beverage Exhibition and Conference (IBEC)
Aug,26—28
The 8th China Int'l Mobile Sci-Tech Exhibition
Aug,26—28
Shenzhen Beauty Expo (IBE)
Aug,26—28
The 16th Presentation Nepcon & Microelectronics Fair
Aug,31—Sept.2
NOTE - I wouldn't recommend the Sex Culture Festival as your excuse LOL
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Tell them your childhood friend Bruce needs your business skills to start up a business in China. Bruce is one dumb fuck who can't speak a lick of English.
Good thing you both know sign language, i've seen dan's mandarin...
Cunning Linguist
06-14-10, 21:49
Errrr..... how do I explain this??!!
OK - I KNOW that I've told you in the past that just about everybody in China, including CP - they all speak Mandarin/Putonghua.
Well - yes, that's what I thought. Really!!
]But this Ho-Ho... this ding-a-ling, she told me that when she went to school, she was only taught in Cantonese, and by the time that Putonghua was compulsory at school, she had already been pulled out (no $$ to go to school). As a result, she really speaks very little and horrible Mandarin.
Incredible but true!!
SEAJ
I looked at your latest posting on the Photo Gallery thread. I am responding on this thread as you seem to be ticked if I respond in the Photo thread with no photo (I have no photos of girls from the Dongguan area yet.Would a photo of a Haitian girl do? How about a Thai girl that I have already posted? A Dominican girl?)
I don't know why but I am in lust with Ho-Ho. Hell, I'll even learn some Cantonese if need be!!! Her face is not the best feature it would seem but her mons Veneri and the wet, turgid region below more than make up for it. As you say, muahaha!
Not a problem - just e-mail me back and tell me when you need an excuse for and what kind of function you need to be invited to.
I'll e-mail you back an official invitation to the function you want to go to and which my company suppossedly hosts.
OK?
SEAJ
Hello SE Asia Joe, I might need your help too for an official invitation ;-) Probably will be back to HK around end of July and will try to make another trip to CP. Last time managed to escape HK and meet up with BSD in CP and some other buddies. Not sure if the same excuse works again..... Well, anyway, hope to be able to catch up with you or other ISG bro and party next time if around.
Peace J
Freepeaks:
You forgot about the Annual ISG Asian Chapter Convention Held each year in China. Since Beijing and Shanghai are such a mess now, it might be in Southern China this year.
SE Asia Joe
06-15-10, 03:32
Hello SE Asia Joe, I might need your help too for an official invitation ;-) Probably will be back to HK around end of July and will try to make another trip to CP. Last time managed to escape HK and meet up with BSD in CP and some other buddies. Not sure if the same excuse works again..... Well, anyway, hope to be able to catch up with you or other ISG bro and party next time if around.
Peace J
HEY.... Maybe I can make a business out of this:)
Official business invitations, proposal for joint ventures, Wedding invitations....anything you need to make an excuse for the SO and/or your company to travel to Hong Kong and China!!
LOL!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-15-10, 03:42
Yowich!!! My pictures are NOT blurred after all!!
APAC MAN just alerted me that although I had blurred out my pictures, the THUMBNAIL image shows up as UN-blurred pictures
Not a big deal, but a saved JPG is actually 2 pictures in one file. One is a thumbnail and one is what get displayed. Whatever you used to blur the image only did the main picture and thumbnail is left as it was originally. I have no idea what is the fix or work around. So if you save the file and look at thumbnail, it shows her face clearly! I thought you may want to know in case you wanted to edit something more serious.
I learned about this issue a year or so ago when a radio talk show put her face JPG on facebook and the thumbnail showed her top half naked!
I double checked with a magnifying glass and sure enough, my thumbnail images do show up un-blurred. Anybody got a solution for this?
Is there a general discussion page on ISG for photo posting where I can bring this matter up? I only found the Photo posting guideline page which is NOT a discussion page.
Thanks
SEAJ
Ps. I used "Paint net" to do my blurring
Flat Stamp
06-15-10, 07:38
FS is coming back in town!
Last time I was in town several months ago, BSDave was did an amazing job of being guide and did the intros to the crew. The DG experience for me was a total transformation after partying with him. If anyone here is looking at going to DG, you have to hit up BSDave.
BSD, find you at DG/Clipper again? Going to set me up with a room. Sadly, I lost my phone with your number on it. And being the idiot that I am, I think I managed to lose your number when I lost my other phone. Planning on being back either this mid this week or early next week. Haven't decided yet. Any ideas?
Looking forward to seeing if I can run into BruceTea, Dan Hawaii and the gang again.
Yo BSD, drop me a note with your digits at the front desk for Flat Stamp at Clipper again? Who else is in town next few days and/or next week to party?
HEY.... Maybe I can make a business out of this:)
Official business invitations, proposal for joint ventures, Wedding invitations....anything you need to make an excuse for the SO and/or your company to travel to Hong Kong and China!!
LOL!!
SEAJ
And then maybe I can use your official business invitations and get a 3-year multiple entry visa instead of one year I usually get :)
Be Safe,
APAC Man
I met a girl in CP. Got her number, her QQ, and she told me she worked at a KTV.
Since I left a few days later, we started QQing. The usual BS for days. Then she tells me she is always Red Tagged. She never goes out with customers. She and her friends wear Red to drink and have fun with customers, but in the end they don't do ST or LT.
According to her, quite a lot of girls do this.
I kinda have seen one or two girls do this. Always wear Red cause they don't go out and since they are so pretty, they get selected anyway. Any stories with these "Always Red" girls?
btw, the girl I know isn't "all that" and claiming she's so hot she can be an "Always Red" girl made me snicker. And I only go to CP for the food and the landscape scenery....
Don't always believe what you hear. Girls will more often than not, tell you things you want to hear. Most guys prefer their girls to go out with few guys, so if she tells you she sleeps with a customer every day, she's afraid she'll scare you off. With KTV girls, just enjoy the company, don't think too much about what they tell you. For them, the general rule is to lie unless there's a reason not to.
As for the idea that quite a lot of girls do the red tag thing in CP, that's complete BS. They wouldn't be able to make enough money maintain their lifestyles. I'm not saying there are no girls that don't regularly go out with customers, just that there are very few. A lot of them do the DJ gig. A lot of them also have some dude sending them money.
-M
I met a girl in CP. Got her number, her QQ, and she told me she worked at a KTV.
Since I left a few days later, we started QQing. The usual BS for days. Then she tells me she is always Red Tagged. She never goes out with customers. She and her friends wear Red to drink and have fun with customers, but in the end they don't do ST or LT.
According to her, quite a lot of girls do this.
I kinda have seen one or two girls do this. Always wear Red cause they don't go out and since they are so pretty, they get selected anyway. Any stories with these "Always Red" girls?
btw, the girl I know isn't "all that" and claiming she's so hot she can be an "Always Red" girl made me snicker. And I only go to CP for the food and the landscape scenery....
Jettsetter
06-15-10, 17:58
I met a girl in CP. Got her number, her QQ, and she told me she worked at a KTV.
Since I left a few days later, we started QQing. The usual BS for days. Then she tells me she is always Red Tagged. She never goes out with customers. She and her friends wear Red to drink and have fun with customers, but in the end they don't do ST or LT.
According to her, quite a lot of girls do this.
I kinda have seen one or two girls do this. Always wear Red cause they don't go out and since they are so pretty, they get selected anyway. Any stories with these "Always Red" girls?
btw, the girl I know isn't "all that" and claiming she's so hot she can be an "Always Red" girl made me snicker. And I only go to CP for the food and the landscape scenery....
I call BS ... They're not there to "hang out" - they're there to make money... if they've already spread their legs for some cash, they're very willing to do it just "one more night" for an extra 300-500 of easy money...
While there may be exceptions to this rule, I've found what Moody said is absolutely right...
but again, why worry yourself with that.. you're probably as much of a **** as she is... (I know I am)...
For those of you guys with limited Mandarin speaking skills and have an iPhone, iPod, or iPad, there's a free app called Lingopal for Mandarin. There's a free one and a $0.99 cent one, get the free one. It's a basic app that will speak a few useful common phrases. The problem with Mandarin for English speakers is that more often than not, the words don't sound like how you expect it to sound even when written in pinyin. For example, the "Q" in words like "to go," "qu4," sounds more like a "ch" than a "k." Anyway, the app has a few common phrases that some here might find useful. Good Luck!
Meiguoguizi
06-15-10, 18:12
In the 'more legit' KTVs in some second tier cities: I'm thinking Guiyang and Changsha, I've met a few girls whose families lived in the city. The were shop girls or students who 'wore the red tag' in an expensive KTV downtown, after work for more money. They said their families knew they worked there, knew their 'managers' and they never 'went out'.
I'm not sure this is true, but I've been pursuing one of them for a year as she went to college in Chengdu.
Not just second tier cities, a lot of first tier cities too. I've been to places in Shanghai where the girls wouldn't go out with customers. In Shenzhen, a lot of places separate the girls who go out and those who don't. If you want to take one back, you have to let the mommy know. In CP, and most of Dongguan, it's different. The vast majority are available for take out.
In the 'more legit' KTVs in some second tier cities: I'm thinking Guiyang and Changsha, I've met a few girls whose families lived in the city. The were shop girls or students who 'wore the red tag' in an expensive KTV downtown, after work for more money. They said their families knew they worked there, knew their 'managers' and they never 'went out'.
I'm not sure this is true, but I've been pursuing one of them for a year as she went to college in Chengdu.
Freepeaks:
You forgot about the Annual ISG Asian Chapter Convention Held each year in China. Since Beijing and Shanghai is such a mess now, it might be in Southern China this year.
There also is graduation from CPU (Changping University) which occurs every month. Dean Joe will be preciding, this months Commencement speaker is Ho-Ho. Can you arrange that Joe?
Yowich!!! My pictures are NOT blurred after all!!
APAC MAN just alerted me that although I had blurred out my pictures, the THUMBNAIL image shows up as UN-blurred pictures
Ps. I used "Paint net" to do my blurring
Try faststone viewer, it does a great job blurring, resizing and cropping.
Not just second tier cities, a lot of first tier cities too. I've been to places in Shanghai where the girls wouldn't go out with customers. In Shenzhen, a lot of places separate the girls who go out and those who don't. If you want to take one back, you have to let the mommy know. In CP, and most of Dongguan, it's different. The vast majority are available for take out.
Very true there are alot of KTVs that are for partying only and a subset will go out, some will only go out after they know you. In CP most places require the girls to go out, but I have met a few that red tag more often than they are 'eligible'. Yes they get picked but if you sit 20 times a month at 140 rmb (200 - 60 for mommie) and less -40 for other fees, they would only make 2000 rmb.
I know a model right now that trys to go out and gets 3/6/10 and says on a good month now might get 10k if she is lucky and she is tall and pretty. If they have support coming in (say 5k) maybe they could pull off the sitting only for spending money but mommies do not make that much off of them sitting as they make 3x that with a girl that bags the customer.
SE Asia Joe
06-16-10, 10:26
BS Dave and I had a bit of "in-between time" and decided to go walking about the other night at some of our haunts - just to see what all's changed.
First thing - the Jun Hui is now no longer a BBS - its been taken over by a Dutch guy (can you believe THAT??!!) who's now trying to run it as a straight KTV with a crew of managers etc from the Fuhao. Gals only shows up at 6 - but we didn't actually check it out as we figured - no point.
The head-head mommy has now parked herself on a nice table and chair set up ON Swan Lake road, outside that Beauty Salon in between the Clipper and the Swan Lake hotels and she's keeping an eye on her various locales there. First locale is of course Sandy's (ex-Sammi) BBS operation in the alley way parallel to Baby's shop. We went in there - at 9:30 PM on a Monday night - and saw about half a dozen totally unacceptable gals. So just sat around a while and chatted with Sandy. She told us that she had quite a few more gals earlier in the evening and that we should come back the next day earlier - with a guarantee that we'll definitely be able to find a good 'un then!!
Went back out and chatted with the Head-head mommie who's all optimisitc and not at all perturbed that she and her operations were basically thrown out of the Jun Hui - and told us to go up to the NEW Swan Lake - but thru the back cargo lift at the end of the parking lot.
Went up there and Lo and Behold!!! At least 30-40 GREAT looking gals - a few stunners even - all dressed up in the Swan Lake KTV uniforms. All the previous mommies (from the Jun Hui and the OLD Swan Lake) was there and eager to ply off their gals to us. They told me that "just for me" (Yeah right!!) the old 200-600 rate still applies - but that anybody else, they'll charge 250 for ST (didn't tell me what LT is now). Tempted.... very tempted - but I had a "date" later on the evening and really couldn't partake.
Just to complete the SWL road tour, went to Baby's and Baby's 2/f shop - each one of them had a grand total of ONE, uno, solitary gal!! Oh brother!!
Sauntered on down to the night market - and it was closed and deader than a door nail.
Like I said, just a small up-date
SEAJ
Pleasure Dude
06-16-10, 18:32
Joe,
Was this on weekday or weekend? I am heading to CP next week and hope things will pick up a bit. Looking forward to meet up with you guys.
Cheers,
PD
BS Dave and I had a bit of "in-between time" and decided to go walking about the other night at some of our haunts - just to see what all's changed.
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-17-10, 00:51
Joe,
Was this on weekday or weekend? I am heading to CP next week and hope things will pick up a bit. Looking forward to meet up with you guys.
Cheers,
PD
Monday night.
Don't worry - should be all OK by week-end.... I hope!!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-18-10, 10:47
Or..... not wanting to waste a report that some guys on another forum wanted me to write.
Besides which - nobody's posting on here these days!! anyway - here goes:
Name: Bing Bing
Where: WAs at the Swan Lake BBS/KTV - now at one of the CP main Street KTV - Miraton/Virgin/Hui Mei/HuiHua ??? not sure!!
Price: Was 200/500 as BBS and 1/3/6 as KTV gal
Rating: ALL 5/5 - body face, service, GFE, sexiness,whatever else!! A PERFECT AAA 5 Star WG!!
Retry: Well..... you tell me!! I Know that lots of guys re-try and re-try and still again re-tried her!! Including MOI!
Look at that ASS!! And you wouldn't believe how firm they are.
And those TITS?? Just as firm.... and sensitive to boot!! (yeah, she reacts when you do your ministrations on her - whilst I found a lot of gals with big tits usually are NOT sensitive there!)
Betcha there's less than 5% of the population - of the whole of China - with better Ass and Tits than Bing Bing (perhaps even less than 1%!!).
She used to work at the OLD Swan Lake KTV - which doubles as a BBS and the rates were 200/500 ST/LT as a BBS gal, whilst as a KTV gal (she'd first sit with you at the KTV) the rates were initally 1/3/6, which was then raised to 1/3/7.
Bing2 is a bit of dizzy blonde type - you know, sort of how I'd imagine Marylin Monroe would be!!
Some guys thinks she's a really dummy/blanko - but I've got a different opinion of her. I've been with her quite a few times and have had many a long conversations with her - and to me, whilst most of her dizzy blonde characters were indeed natural, she nonetheless was quite a smart gal who parlayed her natural dizziness and sexiness into the "whole Product." Smarter than a lot of gals who just cannot/will not emphasize their natural advantages.
At the KTV - she's a NATURAL!!
Wild party gal who'd drink you under the table .... and who then would, unprompted, get up and start dancing!! She'd bumb and grind that 100% body and pout and smack her lips as if she's right then and there screwing.... and would then jump on you and start grinding her pussy on you. Tell me.... Anybody here would just sit with her and NOT take her back to your room?? If so - then I'd think there's something errrr..... wrong with you!!
And at the room??
Well..... look at the pictures in the photot gallery; let your imagination run wild; a bit of a strip tease; some more bumb and grinds; a bit of touching you; a swift peck on your pecker - even before you'd taken a shower; swaying her boobs just out of reach of your lips; laughing merrily; posing and pouting; throwing her bra and panties over your head; smelling YOUR shorts and making a face; even doing military goose-steps in front of you..... ad this all of course even before she starts!!
Her service??? Need you ask? Do you REAlly NEED TO ASK??!! Of course Fantastic - and just about anything and everything you'd want (Except perhaps.....I don't really like going up the brown road and thus never tried/asked her for THAT - but Freepeaks seems to think that this is also on offer. Doubt it - Freepeaks' got an over active imagination LOL!).
I'll NOT go into a blow by blow on her service for honestly, I've NOT had her for a while and it'd only be from memory - which ain't any good/not fair to you guys. Just let me asure you that her service was 100% PLUS!!!!!~
I bumbed into her shopping for Groceries at the Hua Ren a month ago. (YES.... on top of everythig else, I guess she also cooks!!)
She told me that she's now working at a KTV on the main street - but I forgot which one. She also gave me her new phone number - but I just tried calling it and I could not reach her.
But I'm SURE that someone from here would sooner or later get her.
If so, I'd appreciate it if you'd PM me her new/correct phone. YES... I still want to re-try her again!!
SEAJ
Just Seven
06-19-10, 04:59
After an awful first try in Sanya (feel free to read my report in the sanya thread), I feel like Mongergod has smiled upon me with the wonderful present I received last night! On to report #2!
Introduction:
I told a friend of mine that I wanted to sit in a spa and relax for the rest of the evening instead of heading to the bar to watch some more world cup, he said he knows just the place, makes a phone call, gets me a taxi and sends me on my way. I am only slightly concerned that I do not speak enough mandarin to explain anything to the taxi driver, but I figure what the hell and just go along with everything.
I have no clue where I am or where I am going. The taxi takes about fifteen minutes and ushers me into a spa type building. I am greeted by a sweet hostess and taken upstairs to a pretty swanky room. I ask about a pool and a sauna, they say no pool but there is a "steam room" in my bathroom. While I am looking around three girls walk in and do their introduction, I am a little confused but then I realize whats happening. I attempt to find out how much everything will cost (room for the night and services) only to here that my friend has already taken care of everything for me.
I send back the first set and they bring a second set. I still don't see anything that knocks my socks off at which point they bring in 9 girls to choose from. After a short inspection, I make a choice of number 036. I do not think I could have made a better choice.
The girl calls herself Dahn Dahn? (butchering the spelling for phonetics) Short but not too short, long brown hair. For my taste during the lineup, I would say she was an 8. By the end of the night, easily a 9.
The Girl:
Height: 5'3 or so
Age: I could not understand what she said, looks 23 by asian standards, so anywhere from 18-35
Weight: Firm and Fit
Chest: B to C
Ass: Tight and cute
Legs: Smooth
Skin: White and Smooth
Blow by blow:
Once we are alone, she helps me disrobe and we hop into the shower, she cleans me off very well including a long time on both my dick and ass then begins some BBBJ. I get to give her a bit of a soapy massage as well.
After the thorough cleaning, she leads me back to the bed and after another little warmup goes back to BBBJ. The most enthusiastic and hardest working BJ I have ever had, P4P or otherwise.
She mixed things up a bit with fire and ice, Russian, even used her thighs and calves at one point (but no feet as I am not a fan). At one point she was doing a handstand and spread eagle which looked amazingly hot in the overhead mirror while still going down on me. Mmmm. Even had something new to me where she put my legs over hers while she was in a seated position with me laying on my back. Pretty interesting! After a while I realized I had no way of explaining that I wanted to cum. Or where I wanted to cum. A coupled failed attempts as I am too distracted by this gorgeous girls head bobbing up and down on me but still attempting to explain that I was going to finish, ended up CIM which she spit out.
BJ Review:
Technique: 8
Enthusiasm: 11
Overall: 9 (the spit out drops it down from a 10)
After a little bit of tongue cleanup, we head back into the shower for a quick clean off then into the steam room for a little relaxing. All the while being very playful with body language and small phrases. Very GFE.
After the steam, she leads me back to the bed and begins a massage. The massage was only for show and to get me warmed up for what was going to happen the rest of the evening.
After the massage she starts a cat bath with me on my back and flips me over and finishes the cat bath(first time for me, also felt very nice). Laying on my stomach she proceeds to give me a massage with some oil using only her ass (translated as "ass push") The view in the overhead mirror is amazing and it felt wonderful, also another first for me. After the "ass push" she does the same thing with her breasts (translated as "breast push"). She flips me over again and motions for me to get on my hands and knees. She begins some AR, very nice and enjoyable, a slight change of pace from the regular on your back style. By this time I am ready to go again and she starts some more BBBJ while I am on hands and knees and she is underneath me. She puts me on my back and gets out a condom, but instead of putting it on me, she unrolls it and fills it with hot water. She then begins to use the water filled condom as a sex toy and does some amazing things I have never tried before but will certainly try to ask for again!
Auxiliary Services:
Technique: 7? (a couple of the things I have never done before so hard to tell if it could have been better)
Enthusiasm: 10
Overall: 9
The Penultimate Act:
She puts away the waterfilled condom and we make a couple jokes about xiao di di yifu (little brothers clothes = condom) I laugh way too much when she attempts to explain to me that instead of calling it my little brother I should call it my big brother (all in Chinese, which I am paraphrasing as I only understood the general idea) Anyway!
She starts off in cowgirl, we switch around and hit pretty much every position either of us can imagine, taking turns to choose which position. At the start there was no tongue kissing but as things heated up she started some DTK. She was getting really into it which got me extremely turned on, things kept on going for a while until I felt like I needed to change the condom (I ABSOLUTELY HATE all the condoms here in China. I did not know how things were going to turn out beforehand so was no prepared to bring my own **Beyond7 is still best condom I have ever tried**) We switched out the condom and went right back to it, humping like wild animals until I couldn't stand it anymore and had to have another release. Did not try greek but she was ok with finger in ass.
Sex Review
Technique: 8
Enthusiasm: 11!
Overall: 10
I do not know if it was just her or all the circumstances surrounding it, but I can easily say this was one of the best sexual experiences of my life. I am still astounded at the quality of service and level of enjoyment!
Afterwords:
She leads me back to the shower and cleans me up again, even gives me a toothbrush and some toothpaste (I am spending the night here since I have no idea how to explain how to get back to where I want to go, nor where I am, as it was already late when I got there and close to 4am when we finished). Alot of what did not make it in this report was the flirting and banter from Dahn Dahn. It felt more like being with someone I have known for years rather than a girl I had picked out of a line up a mere 4 hours earlier. Very playful, lots of laughing, a cute sexy funny girl even though she knew maybe 20 words in english. A very enjoyable GFE. We exchanged numbers and we will see how that goes.
Sidenotes:
After a very interesting experience attempting to get home I called up my friend and thanked him for being absolutely amazing. I asked him how much it cost him and he said not to worry about it. I will have to figure out how to repay the favor sometime!
I took a picture of the place as I could not get a business card as well as the GPS coordinates in case others want to go, but I will have to edit those in afterwords as they are still on my phone.
Finally, after 5 months, I bothered to get the internet at home and am able to post from home...
Anyway, first things first. Bruce Ill email you the answers to your email questions either later today or tomorrow, I have had a surreal week this last week and I have learned a lot about how to deal with chicks as a result...
I dont really have much to report about a particular ktv or BBS, nothing much new, except to say that in the last 5 months of going to cp quite regularly I havent had too many disappointing girls. The only thing I will say though is that the swan lake BBS have been quite hit and miss for me, service wise. I much prefer the BBSs behind hui mei. Girls are just as good if not better and the service is usually better as well. 50rmb cheaper too.
Went to an oil massage place in houjie a couple of nights ago and in the middle of the massage me and the girl end up kissing and making out, so much so that time ran out before I could be wanked off. She said that she would come to my place and sleep over if I liked (it was finishing time for her). She wasnt a knock out. She was short and a bit chubby, but she had a cute face and big tits and she wasnt gonna cost me anything extra to take home and I really needed to unload so what the hell. She gave a great head job and was very receptive when I shagged her. Lots of moaning and stuff. Anyway, I had been to this place once before then and the other girl I had previously was also very friendly, so this might be my home away from home during the week when I am not in cp.
I got the places name somewhere in my wallet which I can post up if people are interested. I have been told houjie is great for working girls and it really feels like it when I walk around town in the evenings but I havent done much exploring as of yet.
I have been told houjie is great for working girls and it really feels like it when I walk around town in the evenings but I havent done much exploring as of yet.
I'm down with scouting Houjie with you. I'll look through the threads for previous info and we'll see what we can do to add info on Houjie on these boards.
I've had quite a bit of good fun times in KTVs with BSD's assistance. But I have been victim to a few girls who were fun in the KTV room, but become restrictive or unresponsive when you take them back. It's like they let you touch, kiss (some frenching), and are playful in the room, but once at home, they don't kiss (the irony), do not allow touching of even breasts (WTF), or whatever (f'n prude). Oh well, it doesn't happen too often, but when it does, letting them go after ST is a definite. And a turnoff to such a fun night.
Haven't had a BBS girl or a Sauna girl for a while, so I got to go back to the basics and give those a retry. As for girls who work borderline of P4P, have not tried any of those. May or may not partake in the near future after I learn the fine art of Pig Fat seduction.
BTW, PF is the only guy I know who frenches a girl after two hours of meeting her. I have found very few guys able to do this and I myself have not once succeeded. How are guys able to do that??
I'm down with scouting Houjie with you. I'll look through the threads for previous info and we'll see what we can do to add info on Houjie on these boards.
I've had quite a bit of good fun times in KTVs with BSD's assistance. But I have been victim to a few girls who were fun in the KTV room, but become restrictive or unresponsive when you take them back. It's like they let you touch, kiss (some frenching), and are playful in the room, but once at home, they don't kiss (the irony), do not allow touching of even breasts (WTF), or whatever (f'n prude). Oh well, it doesn't happen too often, but when it does, letting them go after ST is a definite. And a turnoff to such a fun night.
Haven't had a BBS girl or a Sauna girl for a while, so I got to go back to the basics and give those a retry. As for girls who work borderline of P4P, have not tried any of those. May or may not partake in the near future after I learn the fine art of Pig Fat seduction.
BTW, PF is the only guy I know who frenches a girl after two hours of meeting her. I have found very few guys able to do this and I myself have not once succeeded. How are guys able to do that??I had a similar experience last nigth. The girl I picked at the KTV was a lot of fun while at KTV and even after the KTV during early morning dinner/breakfast but once we got back to the hotel she was a completely different girl. After showers and cleaning up I wanted her to give me BBBJ and she simply refused and that got me really annoyed. She did perform for may be 45 seconds or so and starting spitting. So I changed gears and just ST her and let her go. She was really surprised that I was pointing her to leave and tried to make me change my mind but it was too late. Piad her dues with cab fare and she was out the door. Could not sleep as I was too tired from the partying with BSD, SEA_Joe, and rest of the crew so that is why I am posting this. BSD wanted a feedback on the girl because she was cute and had good attitude while at the KTV. So BSD, here you have the feedback.
DhP
I had a similar experience last nigth. The girl I picked at the KTV was a lot of fun while at KTV and even after the KTV during early morning dinner/breakfast but once we got back to the hotel she was a completely different girl. After showers and cleaning up I wanted her to give me BBBJ and she simply refused and that got me really annoyed. She did perform for may be 45 seconds or so and starting spitting. So I changed gears and just ST her and let her go. She was really surprised that I was pointing her to leave and tried to make me change my mind but it was too late. Piad her dues with cab fare and she was out the door. Could not sleep as I was too tired from the partying with BSD, SEA_Joe, and rest of the crew so that is why I am posting this. BSD wanted a feedback on the girl because she was cute and had good attitude while at the KTV. So BSD, here you have the feedback.
DhP
If you are finding that this is a regular ocurrence then make a point of getting the girls mummys number first thing at the ktv and make sure the girl sees it, if she asks why you are getting the number just tell her that you are getting it just in case there are any "misunderstandings" if she agrees to go out with you that night. If she gets an attitude from that point on then get rid of her and find a new one, if her attitude is good then take her out. If she is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the hotel room then give the mummy a call right there and then. I guarantee that most times the girl will promise to get her shit together and perform before you actually have to go thru with the call. Having to threaten the girl with this may ruin it for some guys anyway but these girls have got to know they are taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) when they try to pull shit like the above and it may make them think twice before trying it again (then again, it may not).
Bruce, I will scout houjie a bit but I have read something in the latest issue of Here! Dongguan magazine that reveals where some bars with working girls are located. This may be a good starting point. I will start asking taxi drivers for some suggestions as to what some of the good places might be as well.
As for the french kissing? I dont know bro, I just slowly work my way towards it. From kissing a girls hands and arms to their forehead, then cheek, then lick their neck and kissing them behind their ear (and sucking on their ear lobe). Finally move to the mouth and just do little pecks lips to lips and eventually break them down. Dont go straight for the mouth with your tongue hanging out like a dog in heat because thats guaranteed to fail.
Meiguoguizi
06-20-10, 20:25
getting off the wuhan - guangzhou high speed train at guangzhou south what's the best option to cp?
I am a bbbj afficianado but it is tough to find at ktv. Usuallly I will have to negotiate these terms during our time at the ktv. If you don't negotiate in advance you will have to get very lucky to get bbbj. I've heard that bbs girls are more likely to give bbbj but I'm not an expert on bbs. Sauna girls all do bbbj but its like right out of their manual so its not very sensual. If I could get a series of great bbbjs in CP, I might never leave! For me, its hit or miss. Perhaps one of the other gentlemen on this board can help us find a higher level of service?
I had a similar experience last nigth. The girl I picked at the KTV was a lot of fun while at KTV and even after the KTV during early morning dinner/breakfast but once we got back to the hotel she was a completely different girl. After showers and cleaning up I wanted her to give me BBBJ and she simply refused and that got me really annoyed. She did perform for may be 45 seconds or so and starting spitting. So I changed gears and just ST her and let her go. She was really surprised that I was pointing her to leave and tried to make me change my mind but it was too late. Piad her dues with cab fare and she was out the door. Could not sleep as I was too tired from the partying with BSD, SEA_Joe, and rest of the crew so that is why I am posting this. BSD wanted a feedback on the girl because she was cute and had good attitude while at the KTV. So BSD, here you have the feedback.
DhP
BSD,
I had been a regular in CP a few years ago, but hasn't been there for about 3 years. I will come to CP this Wed., and stay in Clipper.
Any chance to hookup with you for party Wed night? I can call you from Clipper's frontdesk if it is ok with you.
Thanks,
BHL
Fast Eddie 48
06-21-10, 07:31
getting off the wuhan - guangzhou high speed train at guangzhou south what's the best option to cp?meiguoguizi,
changping station is called dongguan station it stop at guangzhou main and the guangzhou east station cost is 55 rmb take about 35 min.
fast eddie 48
SE Asia Joe
06-21-10, 08:04
getting off the wuhan - guangzhou high speed train at guangzhou south what's the best option to cp?
this new train station is a bit of a pita - and thus your best bet is to taxi it to gz east station and then take the fast crh train from there to cp.
by the way, inflation is alive and well in china. the fare for sz - cp, cp-gz and sz- gz has all gone up by rmb 5 each way a/o last friday.
seaj
SE Asia Joe
06-21-10, 08:14
Was at the Fuhao last Saturday with a bunch of us and everything was going hunky dorey - even for the two newbies with us.
Lots of games, drinking, groping and everything else until one of the newbies made the mistake of getting a hard-on AND grabbing his gal's hands and placing it on his member!!
I was watching the whole thing and I swear - that gal pulled her hands away so fast that the air was practically crackling with static electricity!! And the look of horror on her face??!!!
Needless to say, she turned from a pretty, docile and fun loving gal into a block of ice in no time flat!! she was still pretty though!! What a WASTE!!
Our friend had to resort to getting a replacement who'd "take him on" and...... who suppossedly has a reputation as a damn good blower to boot!
So maybe all's welll that ends well???!
SEAJ
Was at the Fuhao last Saturday with a bunch of us and everything was going hunky dorey - even for the two newbies with us.
Lots of games, drinking, groping and everything else until one of the newbies made the mistake of getting a hard-on AND grabbing his gal's hands and placing it on his member!!
I was watching the whole thing and I swear - that gal pulled her hands away so fast that the air was practically crackling with static electricity!! And the look of horror on her face??!!!
Needless to say, she turned from a pretty, docile and fun loving gal into a block of ice in no time flat!! she was still pretty though!! What a WASTE!!
Our friend had to resort to getting a replacement who'd "take him on" and...... who suppossedly has a reputation as a damn good blower to boot!
So maybe all's welll that ends well?
SEAJLOL. Somehow I missed that. I think I know who it was but I may be wrong. Anyways, do you know if there is any paragliding club, school, or place in CP? I can see a few mountains from my hotel room and seems like would be a great place to paraglide. How about any other extreme sports like sky diving, bungee jumping, etc?
DhP
Hi all
I'm traveling to CP in early July and have already made bookings through BSD's connection (very helpful guy!). I've been talking to a friend in China and he mentioned that there is a lot of crackdown in Guangzhou at the moment with raids on KTVs and Saunas etc. And by that, it usually follows that the surrounding areas should also be affected.
Have you guys experienced this in CP recently? I've dug around on the internet and found there was quite a crackdown last November and the gov't runs these 'shows' every now and then.
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/12/09/is-dongguan-sweeping-the-yellow-or-just-blowing-smokes/
Any such actions in CP?
BSD,
I had been a regular in CP a few years ago, but hasn't been there for about 3 years. I will come to CP this Wed., and stay in Clipper.
Any chance to hookup with you for party Wed night? I can call you from Clipper's frontdesk if it is ok with you.
Thanks,
BHL
Wow, you have been a member since April 2004, old timer. Just 17 reports on ISG. About 1/2 are asking questions. You need to contribute more. I did find something interesting in one of your reports on girls in a WAREHOUSE but it was a few years ago. Most likely it's gone by now. Is the warehouse still there ? Better directions on were it's located. thks....
Wow, you have been a member since April 2004, old timer. Just 17 reports on ISG. About 1/2 are asking questions. You need to contribute more. I did find something interesting in one of your reports on girls in a WAREHOUSE but it was a few years ago. Most likely it's gone by now. Is the warehouse still there ? Better directions on where it's located. thks....
ISG changed the time when I person go back to edit their post. It was over 24 hours before. Now it's only about 15 minutes.
I read some your older posts and some other senior member was asking the same question, requesting some more details on the WAREHOUSE.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-22-10, 03:23
Feeling a bit adventurous, we took a trip from CP to Chang An for a night of partying. We chose Oscar KTV in Chang An as BSD heard that this KTV is worth trying out. We agreed and headed out.
50 minutes later, we were in CA. It was like 6:30 pm but we heard that Oscar does not start until 7:30. We went into the room and got the info on beers/liquor prices. There are prices for dozens of beer, packages, etc. Best to do the package as the one we did included beers, all food in room, DJ costs, etc. Any beer not finished could be taken back or stored at the KTV.
For some reason, CP does not have a Pizza Hut, so we ordered Pizza Hut in CA. They don't deliver, so we got someone to go pick it up. I believe Oscar provided the ride there and back.
Lineup: Girls came in wearing maroon gowns. Small tits? No, it's just that the gowns were not padded nor did they wear a bra. I got a cute, slender, jet-black haired girl who immediately showed her affections and held on to my arms from that point till end of the night. One of the most attached companions I've had at a KTV. Very GFE in the room. There was perhaps 4 guys who selected and 5 girls in the room. One of the girls won't let others touch her, so she was a dud. The others were ok, but I'm not sure they offered enough to be taken out.
Fun: We played games, drank, listened to the KTV songs. No singing, some minimal drinking. I think the Pizza filled the guys up (the girls refused to eat Western food), so very little drinking went on. Perhaps this made for a subdued atmosphere. 10 pm or so, it was dance time. Few girls came out and danced. This is supposed to be a naked KTV, but none of the girls got into it. In fact, the dancing and nakedness sucked. The girls selected were just duds. Perhaps they were not drunk enough. Perhaps they sensed that we were too gentlemenly to party wildly. In any case, it ended without anyone breaking a sweat.
End: We ended the evening around 11. Those who took girls home had to coordinate to take the girls back the next day. But of course, some girls left earlier (in the morning) and some left in the afternoon, so such coordination is quite difficult.Just to add to Oscar's KTV in CA. It seemed as though were were the only ones partying at this place. Out of all the girls we saw. I could only pick one. I think the best girl there that night was the damn DJ. My chick was one of the few in the group that actually took off her top. She did have a great rack and kept trying to put her top back on after seeing how other girls were fully clothed. Definitely would not venture back to this place. Did not take a girl back to CP that night.
The pizza hut. Tasted horrible. Very little tomato sauce and seemed to only tasted like the bread. Toppings were very scarce.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-22-10, 03:27
Hi all
I'm traveling to CP in early July and have already made bookings through BSD's connection (very helpful guy!). I've been talking to a friend in China and he mentioned that there is a lot of crackdown in Guangzhou at the moment with raids on KTVs and Saunas etc. And by that, it usually follows that the surrounding areas should also be affected.
Have you guys experienced this in CP recently? I've dug around on the internet and found there was quite a crackdown last November and the gov't runs these 'shows' every now and then.
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/12/09/is-dongguan-sweeping-the-yellow-or-just-blowing-smokes/
Any such actions in CP?The person to ask about crackdowns is BSD
StinkyFeet
06-22-10, 04:09
Lots of games, drinking, groping and everything else until one of the newbies made the mistake of getting a hard-on AND grabbing his gal's hands and placing it on his member!!
that was stupid. its only fun when the girl takes the prerogative. i remember one time i was at the international hotel ktv and a ultra cute spinner got crazy drunk. she pretended to be cold and placed my jacket around me and her then gave me a slow HJ while she was "sleeping". good times.
SE Asia Joe
06-22-10, 04:36
LOL. Somehow I missed that. I think I know who it was but I may be wrong. Anyways, do you know if there is any paragliding club, school, or place in CP? I can see a few mountains from my hotel room and seems like would be a great place to paraglide. How about any other extreme sports like sky diving, bungee jumping, etc?
DhP
PPPPPPPARAGLIDING IN CP????!! EXTREME SPORTS?????
Jeez DHP - come to CP to get yourself killed? Go somewhere else!!
OTH - I'll send you to some "nice" places in CP....where you can experience real live thrills!! And oh... BTW.... carry loads of cash and all sorts of fancy electronics with you whilst you go walking about there.
THAT.... oughta make it thrilling enuff!!
ROFLMAO
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-22-10, 04:39
ISG changed the time when I person go back to edit their post. It was over 24 hours before. Now it's only about 15 minutes.
I read some your older posts and some other senior member was asking the same question, requesting some more details on the WAREHOUSE.
Come ON Weelock!!
The guy already told everybody he ain't been back for 3 years!!!
What do you want from him??!!
Leave him alone!!
It's not as if he was asking you or anybody else for much!
Just IMHO
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-22-10, 04:43
Hi all
I'm traveling to CP in early July and have already made bookings through BSD's connection (very helpful guy!). I've been talking to a friend in China and he mentioned that there is a lot of crackdown in Guangzhou at the moment with raids on KTVs and Saunas etc. And by that, it usually follows that the surrounding areas should also be affected.
Have you guys experienced this in CP recently? I've dug around on the internet and found there was quite a crackdown last November and the gov't runs these 'shows' every now and then.
http://www.chinahush.com/2009/12/09/is-dongguan-sweeping-the-yellow-or-just-blowing-smokes/
Any such actions in CP?
Crack downs.... come and go in China.
And it can... and does happen at the drop of a hat. Especially in CP.
Nobody can predict or even anticipate the next one - you just gotta go with the flow if you're ever caught up in one. There's ALWAYS ways!!
And don't worry about what happened 7 months ago - just worry what's gonna happen the next day or even the same night. THAT.... is the reality of mongering in China....where it is still very much an illegal pursuit.
Just my POV
SEAJ
Crack downs.... come and go in China.
And it can... and does happen at the drop of a hat. Especially in CP.
Nobody can predict or even anticipate the next one - you just gotta go with the flow if you're ever caught up in one. There's ALWAYS ways!!
And don't worry about what happened 7 months ago - just worry what's gonna happen the next day or even the same night. THAT.... is the reality of mongering in China....where it is still very much an illegal pursuit.
Just my POV
SEAJTrue SEAJ, where there's a will, there's a way! Having said that, if it's not smooth sailing in the next month or so, I guess I'll just have to rely on BSD and yourself for network contacts because I don't think there's anything else to do in CP for fun right?! :)
Anyway, my itinerary is 6-10 July. Hope you can also make it to the party. I've only ever followed the advice of ISG brothers in the past in China which has served me well so looking forward to partying with the pros in CP!
I am a bbbj afficianado but it is tough to find at ktv. Usuallly I will have to negotiate these terms during our time at the ktv. If you don't negotiate in advance you will have to get very lucky to get bbbj. I've heard that bbs girls are more likely to give bbbj but I'm not an expert on bbs. Sauna girls all do bbbj but its like right out of their manual so its not very sensual. If I could get a series of great bbbjs in CP, I might never leave! For me, its hit or miss. Perhaps one of the other gentlemen on this board can help us find a higher level of service?
I'm not really an expert on the BBS scene. I've probably partaken from BBS perhaps a few dozen times as opposed to hundreds for KTV. My experience though, has been that BBS girls are more likely to give you a BJ and also, that they're usually better at it. Like KTV girls though, you have to let them know that it's what you expect. When you go to a BBS, tell the mommy that you want a girl who gives really good BJ. A lot of it I think has to do with the mindset of KTV girls vs BBS girls. KTV girls want to pretend to be your girlfriend, and good Chinese girls don't do that kind of thing with their boyfriends. BBS girls on the other hand, just want to get you off ASAP so they can go get another customer.
Chang Ping
06-23-10, 03:15
Or..... not wanting to waste a report that some guys on another forum wanted me to write.
Besides which - nobody's posting on here these days!! anyway - here goes:
Name: Bing Bing
Where: WAs at the Swan Lake BBS/KTV - now at one of the CP main Street KTV - Miraton/Virgin/Hui Mei/HuiHua ??? not sure!!
Price: Was 200/500 as BBS and 1/3/6 as KTV gal
Rating: ALL 5/5 - body face, service, GFE, sexiness,whatever else!! A PERFECT AAA 5 Star WG!!
Retry: Well..... you tell me!! I Know that lots of guys re-try and re-try and still again re-tried her!! Including MOI!
Look at that ASS!! And you wouldn't believe how firm they are.
And those TITS?? Just as firm.... and sensitive to boot!! (yeah, she reacts when you do your ministrations on her - whilst I found a lot of gals with big tits usually are NOT sensitive there!)
Betcha there's less than 5% of the population - of the whole of China - with better Ass and Tits than Bing Bing (perhaps even less than 1%!!).
She used to work at the OLD Swan Lake KTV - which doubles as a BBS and the rates were 200/500 ST/LT as a BBS gal, whilst as a KTV gal (she'd first sit with you at the KTV) the rates were initally 1/3/6, which was then raised to 1/3/7.
Bing2 is a bit of dizzy blonde type - you know, sort of how I'd imagine Marylin Monroe would be!!
Some guys thinks she's a really dummy/blanko - but I've got a different opinion of her. I've been with her quite a few times and have had many a long conversations with her - and to me, whilst most of her dizzy blonde characters were indeed natural, she nonetheless was quite a smart gal who parlayed her natural dizziness and sexiness into the "whole Product." Smarter than a lot of gals who just cannot/will not emphasize their natural advantages.
At the KTV - she's a NATURAL!!
Wild party gal who'd drink you under the table .... and who then would, unprompted, get up and start dancing!! She'd bumb and grind that 100% body and pout and smack her lips as if she's right then and there screwing.... and would then jump on you and start grinding her pussy on you. Tell me.... Anybody here would just sit with her and NOT take her back to your room?? If so - then I'd think there's something errrr..... wrong with you!!
And at the room??
Well..... look at the pictures in the photot gallery; let your imagination run wild; a bit of a strip tease; some more bumb and grinds; a bit of touching you; a swift peck on your pecker - even before you'd taken a shower; swaying her boobs just out of reach of your lips; laughing merrily; posing and pouting; throwing her bra and panties over your head; smelling YOUR shorts and making a face; even doing military goose-steps in front of you..... ad this all of course even before she starts!!
Her service??? Need you ask? Do you REAlly NEED TO ASK??!! Of course Fantastic - and just about anything and everything you'd want (Except perhaps.....I don't really like going up the brown road and thus never tried/asked her for THAT - but Freepeaks seems to think that this is also on offer. Doubt it - Freepeaks' got an over active imagination LOL!).
I'll NOT go into a blow by blow on her service for honestly, I've NOT had her for a while and it'd only be from memory - which ain't any good/not fair to you guys. Just let me asure you that her service was 100% PLUS!!!!!~
I bumbed into her shopping for Groceries at the Hua Ren a month ago. (YES.... on top of everythig else, I guess she also cooks!!)
She told me that she's now working at a KTV on the main street - but I forgot which one. She also gave me her new phone number - but I just tried calling it and I could not reach her.
But I'm SURE that someone from here would sooner or later get her.
If so, I'd appreciate it if you'd PM me her new/correct phone. YES... I still want to re-try her again!!
SEAJHey Joe,
I've been reading the reports silently (and enjoyed it much I might add) up to this point but just had to chime in when I read this.
Yeah I remember Bing Bing too! And anyone who has tried her would find it hard to forget that fantastic bod, those luscious lips and her seemingly ditzy Marilyn Monroe-esque persona.
Glad to hear she is still around and has moved up in the world (well not good for us in terms of cost! hahah)
SE Asia Joe
06-23-10, 05:40
I just now realized that what I posted a few days back 1032866 in regards to a Dutch guy taking over the Jun Hui is WRONG!
What Lo Fu told me (in Cantonese) is that the guy taking it over was from "Ho Laan" - which right away registered to me as the Cantonesiation of Holland or Netherlands. whilst of course she meant the province of Ho Laan or Henan(?) in Putonghua!!
Oooops!
SEAJ
I don't think there's anything else to do in CP for fun right?!
No, you can also go shrimp fishing. You use a small fishingrod to catch small shrimp in a tub. An exciting sport introduced from Taiwan.
Was at the Fuhao last Saturday with a bunch of us and everything was going hunky dorey - even for the two newbies with us.
Lots of games, drinking, groping and everything else until one of the newbies made the mistake of getting a hard-on AND grabbing his gal's hands and placing it on his member!!
I was watching the whole thing and I swear - that gal pulled her hands away so fast that the air was practically crackling with static electricity!! And the look of horror on her face??!!!
Needless to say, she turned from a pretty, docile and fun loving gal into a block of ice in no time flat!! she was still pretty though!! What a WASTE!!
Our friend had to resort to getting a replacement who'd "take him on" and...... who suppossedly has a reputation as a damn good blower to boot!
So maybe all's welll that ends well???!
SEAJAnother great night of party at Fuhao last night. Got a couple of great gilrs to accompany me last night, one model and one regular girl, and brought one back who had a great personality and really enjoyed her stay for the whole night. Actually she left after 2:00 PM and wanted to stay for another night. She wanted 300 RMB as a tip which I found a bit of unusual. She did not get the 300 RMB tip but she left happy with whatever she got and a 200 RMB teddy bear.
SE Asia Joe
06-24-10, 01:39
Another great night of party at Fuhao last night. Got a couple of great gilrs to accompany me last night, one model and one regular girl, and brought one back who had a great personality and really enjoyed her stay for the whole night. Actually she left after 2:00 PM and wanted to stay for another night. She wanted 300 RMB as a tip which I found a bit of unusual. She did not get the 300 RMB tip but she left happy with whatever she got and a 200 RMB teddy bear.
WHAT??!!!
BSD allowed a toy vendor into your KTV room?? AND allowed a gal to actually get a Teddy Bear and have you pay for it??!! Tsk Tsk Tsk.... standards, standards - letting it all slip!! Shameful!!
She got you to buy her the RMB 200 teddy bear - of course she expects you to tip her royally. Another BSD amongst our midst - exceptin' you ain't Dave!!
SEAJ
Another great night of party at Fuhao last night. Got a couple of great gilrs to accompany me last night, one model and one regular girl, and brought one back who had a great personality and really enjoyed her stay for the whole night. Actually she left after 2:00 PM and wanted to stay for another night. She wanted 300 RMB as a tip which I found a bit of unusual. She did not get the 300 RMB tip but she left happy with whatever she got and a 200 RMB teddy bear.
I guess I'll bring this up. Almost always, the stuffed animals, the flowers, and various other crap you buy for the girls at a KTV is fake. By that, what I mean is that the next day, the girl gives the toy or whatever back and she and the seller split the profits. Next time you want to buy something like that for the girl, just give her the cash, that way, at least she gets to keep all of it.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-24-10, 02:27
WHAT?!
BSD allowed a toy vendor into your KTV room? AND allowed a gal to actually get a Teddy Bear and have you pay for it?! Tsk Tsk Tsk. Standards, standards. Letting it all slip! Shameful!
She got you to buy her the RMB 200 teddy bear. Of course she expects you to tip her royally. Another BSD amongst our midst. Exceptin' you ain't Dave!
SEAJThat's weird. BSD NEVER allows vendors in. Not even the food vendors.
WHAT??!!!
BSD allowed a toy vendor into your KTV room?? AND allowed a gal to actually get a Teddy Bear and have you pay for it??!! Tsk Tsk Tsk.... standards, standards - letting it all slip!!
Haha, it's not BSD's fault.
Sometimes they DO come in and it's up to the DJ or others in the room to kick that vendor out. Most if not ALL the time, BSD has instructed everyone not to buy or listen or even look at the vendors.
But exceptions do happen. Once in a large party, a vendor came in and the first time newbie just wanted to buy a stuffed animal for his gal. Of course, the gal was pretty nice and all, and as a good person, she refused and declined such gesture. But sometimes guys get "romantic" and go for it just for the hell of it. Yep, he bought her a teddy bear and I had to convince BSD that it's a one time deal and that newbie wanted to do so on his own.
I've also seen a guy buy one of those plastic roses which lights up for his girl. It also has a ring in it. Really cool and romantic if you are getting it for your gf, but to a KTV girl, it's not something she'd cherish. In fact, by the end of the night, it was played with so much, it broke and I think it got taken apart. The plastic ring got thrown in the trash.
But other pitfalls to buying from vendors are:
(a) as Moody stated, such gifts are insignificant. Cash is preferred.
(b) it makes other guys in the room look bad if others won't buy from vendors. It's a "if she got one, I WANT ONE!" mentality.
(c) Extra costs should not be encouraged especially if you want to party in a group. Not everyone's on the same financial spending budget.
(d) Vendors spread news of where they made sales. Once a vendor gets a sale, others will come in without fear of being kicked out.
(e) Most importantly, MARKUP. It's more expensive bought there than anywhere else.
Haha, it's not BSD's fault.
Sometimes they DO come in and it's up to the DJ or others in the room to kick that vendor out. Most if not ALL the time, BSD has instructed everyone not to buy or listen or even look at the vendors.
But exceptions do happen. Once in a large party, a vendor came in and the first time newbie just wanted to buy a stuffed animal for his gal. Of course, the gal was pretty nice and all, and as a good person, she refused and declined such gesture. But sometimes guys get "romantic" and go for it just for the hell of it. Yep, he bought her a teddy bear and I had to convince BSD that it's a one time deal and that newbie wanted to do so on his own.
I've also seen a guy buy one of those plastic roses which lights up for his girl. It also has a ring in it. Really cool and romantic if you are getting it for your gf, but to a KTV girl, it's not something she'd cherish. In fact, by the end of the night, it was played with so much, it broke and I think it got taken apart. The plastic ring got thrown in the trash.
But other pitfalls to buying from vendors are:
(a) as Moody stated, such gifts are insignificant. Cash is preferred.
(b) it makes other guys in the room look bad if others won't buy from vendors. It's a "if she got one, I WANT ONE! " mentality.
(c) Extra costs should not be encouraged especially if you want to party in a group. Not everyone's on the same financial spending budget.
(d) Vendors spread news of where they made sales. Once a vendor gets a sale, others will come in without fear of being kicked out.
(e) Most importantly, MARKUP. It's more expensive bought there than anywhere else.It is definitely not BSD fault. The vendor came into the room when BSD was not even in the room and by the time he came back the damage had already been done; twice, one for each of my girls. I usually abide by BSD rules but I don't think we covered buying stuff for girls this time around. It is interesting to know that it is up to the DJ to kick the vendor out or not even let her in. But that night the DJ was also asking me to buy her a teddy bear as well which I did not and she gave me disappointing looks rest of the night. Well, now that I know that it is a No No in BSD crowd it won't happen again. Especially knowing that the bears are going back to the vendor and everyone getting their cuts in this scam. Oh well, live and learn.
And now the big question, who is going to be here this weekend to party. This is going to be my last weekend in CP and who knows when the next trip is going to come around.
Got a couple of great gilrs to accompany me last night, one model and one regular girl, and brought one back who had a great personality and really enjoyed her stay for the whole night. Actually she left after 2:00 PM and wanted to stay for another night. She wanted 300 RMB as a tip which I found a bit of unusual. .
Hi. Did you take a model back or a regular girl?
Staying till 2 pm is pretty cool of her. As for the 300 rmb tip, I don't know, perhaps you popped her 4 times or once after 12 pm. Perhaps the 300 rmb extra is the short time fee (as she may consider her stay with with you to be until 12 pm and any pops after that is extra). Dunno, but glad you had a good time.
SE Asia Joe
06-24-10, 04:28
Hi. Did you take a model back or a regular girl?
Staying till 2 pm is pretty cool of her. As for the 300 rmb tip, I don't know, perhaps you popped her 4 times or once after 12 pm. Perhaps the 300 rmb extra is the short time fee (as she may consider her stay with with you to be until 12 pm and any pops after that is extra). Dunno, but glad you had a good time.
ROFLMAO!!!
DHP's command of the Chinese language is quite minimal..... so what else is there to do if you cain't talk with each other????!!!
Good on ya DHP!! Keep "IT" up!
SEAJ
Big Swingin Dave
06-24-10, 04:43
WHAT??!!!
BSD allowed a toy vendor into your KTV room?? AND allowed a gal to actually get a Teddy Bear and have you pay for it??!! Tsk Tsk Tsk.... standards, standards - letting it all slip!! Shameful!!
She got you to buy her the RMB 200 teddy bear - of course she expects you to tip her royally. Another BSD amongst our midst - exceptin' you ain't Dave!!
SEAJTo set the record straight, I was in the W.C. and my DJ was outside getting some hot tea when the vendor entered the room and DphM bought 2 teddy bears for 200RMB each. I gave him the look and he just waved me off. Well, for being nice to the girls, he got the girl to stay late, that doesn't happen all the time but it did for him so good for him.
Also, just for everyone to know, tipping the service boy inside the KTV is NOT necessary especially all he did was to give you a towel to wipe your sweat. Tipping is ok only if you give it to the right person, i.e. the DJ that worked all night and didn't even get an extra tip...just my POV.
BSD
SE Asia Joe
06-24-10, 04:48
To set the record straight, I was in the W.C. and my DJ was outside getting some hot tea when the vendor entered the room and DphM bought 2 teddy bears for 200RMB each. I gave him the look and he just waved me off. Well, for being nice to the girls, he got the girl to stay late, that doesn't happen all the time but it did for him so good for him.
Also, just for everyone to know, tipping the service boy inside the KTV is NOT necessary especially all he did was to give you a towel to wipe your sweat. Tipping is ok only if you give it to the right person, i.e. the DJ that worked all night and didn't even get an extra tip...just my POV.
BSD
Welll..... I certainly hope that he will tip you well!!
I been watchin' how you took very good care of him and now you confirm that he IS a BSD!!
SO..... DHP...."Tipping is OK only if you give it to the right person"
Hint Hint Hint!!
Muahahaha!!
SEAJ
Robin Mill
06-24-10, 05:19
Hi all
Just want to share an unhappiness incident of mine.
I got to know an assistance mummy almost a year back when I am in CP. She is now working at Li Hao, which is just down Tian Er Hu (Swan Lake road) beside the big smelly canal, quite close to the now closed Xin Di. We click off quite well, and I even gave her calls regularly back home. So I consider her a friend and not a working gal.
I am currently in CP. Few days back; I went to her house before she left for work to pass her a small gift I bought from home. She complained that she has not enough money to eat and hope to lend from me. I willingly pass her $200. She is a ‘friend’ after all. To say the truth, I am not expecting anything back; however, she did mention clearly that it was a loan.
Yesterday night, I contacted her as I do not have anyone to accompany. My reasoning is that since I am not going to get my $200 back, might as well get her to stay for a night and pay her the difference. We agreed on $500 overnight rate. While she was bathing, I put $300 under her purse to let her know that I am paying her the difference and she can always stop or decide not to do it. She saw it when she was out and she was ok with it.
Everything went well, we had a great time and we finish a session.
Then she called her friend. She claimed that her friend just came back from home town and bought lots of presents for her. She says she will be gone for 30-40 minutes. As a gentleman and a friend, how could I refuse? I let her go and watch soccer on my own. 15 minutes later, she called and told me that her younger sister is depressed, and need her to be by her side. She claimed that she will come back after visiting her young sister. Everything started to go downhill from there, as I grew angry. However, $500 is a small price to pay for this lesson.
Lesson point: Never give money in advance.
Lesson point: If Li Hao assistance mummy is like this, the gals must be worse.
Lesson point: CP gals regard $ more importantly than love and friendship.
These are simple lesson point, but a ‘seasoned’ monger like me can fall for it. Thus, never under-estimate the power of gals.
Then she called her friend.
Lesson point: Never give money in advance.
Lesson point: If assistance mummy is like this, the gals must be worse.
Lesson point: CP gals regard $ more importantly than love and friendship.
These are simple lesson point, but a ‘seasoned’ monger like me can fall for it. Thus, never under-estimate the power of gals.
hey Will, sorry for your unfortunate experience. I too had some experiences where the focus is on ... MONEY. Always more, nothing less.
Assistant mommies don't make that much. I had a girl from that KTV who was a gal, but when I called her a few days later, she became an assistant mommy. In any case, she told me how little she makes and all that jive. But in truth, assistant mommies do make that little. Oh well, it doesn't take that much effort to go room to room selling "your girls." But more or less she 's hinting that since she's an Assistant mommy, she gets a bit more respect, business cards with her name, nice suit, etc. but needs an outside supporter so she can live. Most Assistant mommies have one. Anyway, like this report is getting boring, so was I listening to her sob story. Seriously, I just wanted her out as quickly as possible. No pussy's worth that much boredom.
As for the call, it is one of my strategies to get rid of girl. I do them once and if the session is subpar or downright bad, I plan on making them leave. But since I shower after them, she may have already planted herself in bed and ready for some snooze. Well, I pick up the phone, call a friend, and:
in English: Yo, what time you waking up tomorrow? Wow!! That early??? I'll see you then!! hey, I had fun tonight. You ready for tomorrow?
in Chinese for her: Oh my god!! My friend told me he went to get a snack and got into some trouble with the locals!! He was so lucky I called! He needs me and I need to go...Here's 500 for tonight. I'll call you tomorrow, so sorry, babe. You know I love you...
So yeah, she tells me to call her, kisses me for good luck, I lock the door and go to sleep. Breakfast at 9.
As for the call, it is one of my strategies to get rid of girl. I do them once and if the session is subpar or downright bad, I plan on making them leave. But since I shower after them, she may have already planted herself in bed and ready for some snooze. Well, I pick up the phone, call a friend, and:
in English: Yo, what time you waking up tomorrow? Wow!! That early??? I'll see you then!! hey, I had fun tonight. You ready for tomorrow?
in Chinese for her: Oh my god!! My friend told me he went to get a snack and got into some trouble with the locals!! He was so lucky I called! He needs me and I need to go...Here's 500 for tonight. I'll call you tomorrow, so sorry, babe. You know I love you...
So yeah, she tells me to call her, kisses me for good luck, I lock the door and go to sleep. Breakfast at 9.
why even bother with a story? Just tell them you like to sleep by yourself, give her the money, and she'll get the hint.
Hi all
Just want to share an unhappiness incident of mine.
Lesson point: Never give money in advance.
Lesson point: If Li Hao assistance mummy is like this, the gals must be worse.
Lesson point: CP gals regard $ more importantly than love and friendship.
These are simple lesson point, but a ‘seasoned’ monger like me can fall for it. Thus, never under-estimate the power of gals.
You can friends with hookers and you can have sex with hookers, but you really can't do both. Once money changes hands, it changes the whole dynamic of the relationship. You go from friend to customer, and once she acknowledges the fact you're a customer, she'll do what all hookers do, maximize revenue.
Hi. Did you take a model back or a regular girl?
Staying till 2 pm is pretty cool of her. As for the 300 rmb tip, I don't know, perhaps you popped her 4 times or once after 12 pm. Perhaps the 300 rmb extra is the short time fee (as she may consider her stay with with you to be until 12 pm and any pops after that is extra). Dunno, but glad you had a good time.LOL. I only popped her twice and the last one was around 9:00 AM. I took her out for breakfast in the morning and when she came back she took a nap and when she got up we went for lunch and after we came back to the room and she took her stuff and left and it was after 2:00 PM. Oh, and I took the regular girl back as model was having her periods. Good thing or I would have brought both of them back and I can only pop 2 times or 3 times the max in a 24 hour period. I am not much younger than SEA_Joe. Right SEAJ?
Hi all
Just want to share an unhappiness incident of mine.
I got to know an assistance mummy almost a year back when I am in CP. She is now working at Li Hao, which is just down Tian Er Hu (Swan Lake road) beside the big smelly canal, quite close to the now closed Xin Di. We click off quite well, and I even gave her calls regularly back home. So I consider her a friend and not a working gal.
I am currently in CP. Few days back; I went to her house before she left for work to pass her a small gift I bought from home. She complained that she has not enough money to eat and hope to lend from me. I willingly pass her $200. She is a ‘friend’ after all. To say the truth, I am not expecting anything back; however, she did mention clearly that it was a loan.
Yesterday night, I contacted her as I do not have anyone to accompany. My reasoning is that since I am not going to get my $200 back, might as well get her to stay for a night and pay her the difference. We agreed on $500 overnight rate. While she was bathing, I put $300 under her purse to let her know that I am paying her the difference and she can always stop or decide not to do it. She saw it when she was out and she was ok with it.
Everything went well, we had a great time and we finish a session.
Then she called her friend. She claimed that her friend just came back from home town and bought lots of presents for her. She says she will be gone for 30-40 minutes. As a gentleman and a friend, how could I refuse? I let her go and watch soccer on my own. 15 minutes later, she called and told me that her younger sister is depressed, and need her to be by her side. She claimed that she will come back after visiting her young sister. Everything started to go downhill from there, as I grew angry. However, $500 is a small price to pay for this lesson.
Lesson point: Never give money in advance.
Lesson point: If Li Hao assistance mummy is like this, the gals must be worse.
Lesson point: CP gals regard $ more importantly than love and friendship.
These are simple lesson point, but a ‘seasoned’ monger like me can fall for it. Thus, never under-estimate the power of gals.Hey Will, sorry to hear about your experience. But as you said, $500 is a small price to pay for this lession and next time you would be more experienced with this. Now lets hope this rain stops and we can go party.
SE Asia Joe
06-24-10, 11:37
Nahh...I wasn't specifically referring to myself as I do get the travel agency commission from KTV's and guys "DO" regularly tip me well - so I'm not worried about DHP
BSD
What's that - 8? 10% That you still gotta share with your principals et al?
Like I said previously, you gotta start charging a hosting fee - the DJ's makes more money than you as it is!!
And not everybody is gonna be a BSD generous bloke like DHP - right?
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
06-24-10, 11:50
Hi all
Just want to share an unhappiness incident of mine.
I got to know an assistance mummy almost a year back when I am in CP. She is now working at Li Hao, .........
Hey Will - why worry about her?
Yeah you thought that she was a friend.... and you're disappointed that she's not treating you as a friend - but just like any other John. Well......!
BUT.... you did get your pop and paid the standard RMB 500 rate FOR SHORT TERM FOR A REGULAR KTV GAL.
OK, you "negotiated" RMB 500 for overnight with her - but here I think you're the one who probably was acting not really a good friend - Jewing her down to even less than her gals would go for. (BTW - sub-mommies always like to think of themselves worth more than her gals as she don't go out that often).
Even the very fact that you would negotiate the deal, then make your "mandatory deduction" like the Government - Man!!
How do you think it made her feel?
Anyway RMB 500 for ST is what it was - a "fair deal" for everybody all round IMHO.
What - you think that since you thought of her as a "friend" that she would AND should give "more" to you -gratis??
And her not coming back was IMHO a graceful exit for both of you. The rate is 2-5-8 for Li Hao gals, she got 5 (minus 2 actually!!) so you're only entitled to ST. And instead of making a stink about it/actually giving the "friendship" its due respect, she gracefully made excuses to not come back. If she had stayed O/N for the 800 she'd really be shortchanging herself...and her own ego and feelings of self-worth.
Look at it from THIS point of view - and you'll realize that you certainly was not acting like a "friend" either - NO?!
Sorry to prick your balloon - but that really is how I see it and would like for you to re-consider your experience AND your opinion of your friend.
It'll make you feel better me-thinks
SEAJ
Robin Mill
06-24-10, 13:02
Sorry to prick your balloon - but that really is how I see it and would like for you to re-consider your experience AND your opinion of your friend.
It'll make you feel better me-thinks
SEAJ
Hi SEAJ
Thanks for the reply and your opinion. I understand where you are coming from. I would like to thanks BSD David too for his share of the stories on phone after he read my post. I was kind of feeling sour, but after seeing all the feedback, I felt great!
I had definitely regarded her as a friend. To lengthen my story, I was apprehensive at first to get her overnight. I was definitely hoping that she would stay, but not at a rate more than BBS. But knowing I am unlikely to get my $200 back, so why not try it so as to cut my losses. We discuss the rate in a friendly manner. She raised the topic, and what BSD told me after was right. If a gal raises the topic of how much you are going to give her, she is treating you as a customer.
I told her that any amount would be an insult to her (I am still the gullible ‘friend’). She told me that her basic pay as assistant mummy is $2000, not gone out with customer for very long time, not enough to eat, pay rent, blab blab blab. I then told her that she is ok to stay overnight with me, and I can only afford $500. If she feels it is insufficient for her, I will walk her home. She decided to stay. So this is the longer story and picture.
For me, I definitely will not pay more than $500 for overnight with her, as I can get other BBS gal. I am also trying to ‘help’ her as her friend to make more money, and at the same time satisfied my desire. I don’t mind doing her again, but her chain smoking horrible mouth odour really turns me off. I could jolly well get another BBS gal, but as I have mentioned earlier, I hope to cut my losses. So these are my stands.
As for 2-5-8 KTV gal, I believe everyone should see the amount in this manner. The company, beer drinking from 7pm-12am (or whatever time) in the KTV is $200. So the ST is actually $300, and the LT $600. It is only $100 more than BBS. I believe we all should tell the KTV gal to wake up their idea. They are definitely not worth $500 for ST only. After all, any gal with 2 tits and a hole could go to KTV to work. What do you all think?
For me, I definitely will not pay more than $500 for overnight with her, as I can get other BBS gal. I am also trying to ‘help’ her as her friend to make more money, and at the same time satisfied my desire. I don’t mind doing her again, but her chain smoking horrible mouth odour really turns me off. I could jolly well get another BBS gal, but as I have mentioned earlier, I hope to cut my losses. So these are my stands.
As for 2-5-8 KTV gal, I believe everyone should see the amount in this manner. The company, beer drinking from 7pm-12am (or whatever time) in the KTV is $200. So the ST is actually $300, and the LT $600. It is only $100 more than BBS. I believe we all should tell the KTV gal to wake up their idea. They are definitely not worth $500 for ST only. After all, any gal with 2 tits and a hole could go to KTV to work. What do you all think?
Yep you are right but also you are wrong. Your logic is right from your point of view and to me sounds fair.
However there is no getting away from the fact as SEAJ points out she would feel you were underpaying her and even if she thought you were a friend before, since you deemed it ok to underpay her she would be entitled to go early as the agreement for LT was not fairly negotiated (from her point of view you had her at an unfair advantage.)
I have done a similar thing to yourself a few times in the past and it has worked out about the same. I don't like the idea of a WG using my friendship to get themselves a better deal that they could otherwise, and invariably I want to come out on the "winning" side of any deal. This breaks the friendship real fast as it it obvious it was not a true friendship when mixed with business.
As Moody says, hookers, friends and sex can''t really be done at the same time.
BJK
Bob Builder
06-24-10, 15:06
The cost of fucking a BBS girl in CP, LOL!
What's that - 8? 10% That you still gotta share with your principals et al?
Like I said previously, you gotta start charging a hosting fee - the DJ's makes more money than you as it is!!
And not everybody is gonna be a BSD generous bloke like DHP - right?
SEAJSeaj,
I thought you were referring BSD as BSD but I think you are referring me as BSD. So I think this can't be good. What do you mean by BSD when you are referring me as BSD? And WTF. My posts don't show up for hours and hours but they do show up and by then they are too late. And, also, I am only going to be active on this board till I am here in CP. After that, you won't see a post from me until I am back in CP.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-24-10, 16:54
Also, just for everyone to know, tipping the service boy inside the KTV is NOT necessary especially all he did was to give you a towel to wipe your sweat. Tipping is ok only if you give it to the right person, i.e. the DJ that worked all night and didn't even get an extra tip...just my POV.
BSDTipping is not required in China especially if all that they do is hand you a towel. If you do tip. Think of those that go out of their way to show you around, set up your arrangements, and even more importantly TRANSLATE for you. I'm not saying that it has to be a monetary value. A nice lunch/dinner often shows your appreciation.
Just my $. 02
It is definitely not BSD fault. The vendor came into the room when BSD was not even in the room and by the time he came back the damage had already been done; twice, one for each of my girls. I usually abide by BSD rules but I don't think we covered buying stuff for girls this time around. It is interesting to know that it is up to the DJ to kick the vendor out or not even let her in. But that night the DJ was also asking me to buy her a teddy bear as well which I did not and she gave me disappointing looks rest of the night. Well, now that I know that it is a No No in BSD crowd it won't happen again. Especially knowing that the bears are going back to the vendor and everyone getting their cuts in this scam. Oh well, live and learn.
And now the big question, who is going to be here this weekend to party. This is going to be my last weekend in CP and who knows when the next trip is going to come around.
Well it had been almost a month since my last visit, so I will be up for Friday night fun! I am bringing an "experienced" KTV buddy, but it is first visit to CP. It should be a fun night I hope. SEA J, any chance you will be around as well!.
Well, now that I know that it is a No No in BSD crowd it won't happen again. Especially knowing that the bears are going back to the vendor and everyone getting their cuts in this scam. Oh well, live and learn.
One more thing, if you really do want to buy a toy for the girl for whatever reason, you should haggle. If they ask for 200RMB, counter with like 50RMB. The vendors are well aware that drunk guys are suckers, so they'll announce a ridiculously exorbitant price just to see if they can get away with it. Seriously, they have nothing to lose doing this, and they might make an extra 100RMB for what basically amounts to no effort.
Dan Hawaii
06-24-10, 20:58
Dan,
what general type of work do you do? Something that COULD involve China? If so, then work your angle and we can all support it somehow. All of us end up doing something in China. I'm lucky enough where I do make a bit of an income going there, although I could easily NOT go and make the same income... but hell, that's not what everyone else thinks, so might as well do it while I"m there, right?
So some excuses, given China is the up and coming powerhouse of the world is:
1. Investment Opportunities (but you need some bank to make it happen) - and perhaps actually invest.
2. Meet with clients (if you have a client oriented type of business)
3. Say you're going somewhere ELSE and end up in China (i.e. going to a place where they'd think you were crazy for going, but you HAVE to go for "training"... but hope nobody checks your passport.
4. Medical trip - lots of folks go overseas for medical reasons (cheaper) - i.e. Thailand, Philippines ( for dentistry), etc... usually can save a ton of $$... but then again, I wouldn't count China as the top of my list for medical treatments... (obviously you need a reason or need to actually do it).
5. Fairs - but the Big Canton Fair isn't until October...
That's all I got for now... I luckily use the "business" excuse... but through time it stopped being an excuse and it actually started happening.. so it's all good...
Anyways, if you need some backup, let us know, lots of brothers are more than willing to help other brothers out... I know that my support system has been strengthened by my brothers actually meeting up in my area so there are actually guys with faces and names to the stories I tell...
Best,
J
Thanks Jett,
I really need to think of something. CP's just so much fun and I'm not getting any younger. I just can see myself in 10 years, kicking myself in the butt for not going back there.
I need to brainstorm more and fast, I want to be there in August, a lot of my friends from Cali are going.
My posts don't show up for hours and hours but they do show up and by then they are too late.
That is because posts by regular members are monitored. Once they're approved by the moderator, then the show up. There are various reasons for this policy but I think the major reasons are to prevent advertising, posting of phone numbers and email addresses, and prevent drive-by trolling. Once you become a senior member, they show up immediately.
Dan Hawaii
06-24-10, 21:08
Wedding idea is good. But it is a one time use only - maybe twice... tough sell after that. Investment would make sense, perhaps, the real estate market in HK has taken a hit and there is an opportunity to invest but I want to go see the property in the area.
Trade Shows - there are always trade shows in HK
http://www.hkcec.com/visitors/event-calendar?page=9
go to www-hkcec-com and look for event at the time you are going...
or www-asiaworld-expo-com
Period: 06/08/2010 - 08/08/2010
Event Name: 2010 Hong Kong High-End Audio-Visual Show
06/08/2010 - 08/08/2010
Event Name: The 18th International Baby/Children Products Expo and 22nd Hong Kong Baby Crawling Contest
12/08/2010 - 16/08/2010
Event Name: HKTDC Food Expo
(import food! you live on an island!)
12/08/2010 - 16/08/2010
Event Name: International Conference & Exhibition of the Modernization of Chinese Medicine & Health Products
Period: 12/08/2010 - 14/08/2010
Event Name: Hong Kong International Tea Fair
Period: 20/08/2010 - 23/08/2010
Event Name: Hong Kong Computer & Communications Festival 2010
26/08/2010 - 28/08/2010
Event Name: Natural Products Expo Asia 2010
If you go to a 'jewelry' show you could always buy something in Luohu to cover your story ('a sample') or you could actually go for a day and have the badge and a handful of brochures...small price to pay.
you could even email a company there for 'invitation' to fair which will get you in free. Just have to pick the right show. That is only for the two main HK venues but there are many more (Canton Fair) and other smaller fairs in Shenzhen...
Shenzhen Hometex 2010(August)
Aug,7—10
Shenzhen Sex Culture Festival 2010
Aug,6—8
The 2nd SCAF
Aug,12—16
The Exhibition of UICC World Cancer Congress 2010
Aug,18—21
International Beverage Exhibition and Conference (IBEC)
Aug,26—28
The 8th China Int'l Mobile Sci-Tech Exhibition
Aug,26—28
Shenzhen Beauty Expo (IBE)
Aug,26—28
The 16th Presentation Nepcon & Microelectronics Fair
Aug,31—Sept.2
NOTE - I wouldn't recommend the Sex Culture Festival as your excuse LOL
fp
Wow FP, thanks for all the fair info. Are you going to be there in mid-late August time? If there was a show on gold or jewelry, that would have been perfect.
We actually used to go to the jewelry shows in HK, it was the biggest jewelry show in the world. I think its held 2-4 times a year. Anyways, I'm not really into jewelry right now, more into scrap gold, like cash for gold.
Dan Hawaii
06-24-10, 21:11
Good thing you both know sign language, i've seen dan's mandarin...
Hahaha, What Mandarin?
I'm so lucky I got good friends like you, BSD, SEAJ, and Bruce Tea to help me out.
Wow FP, thanks for all the fair info. Are you going to be there in mid-late August time? If there was a show on gold or jewelry, that would have been perfect.
We actually used to go to the jewelry shows in HK, it was the biggest jewelry show in the world. I think its held 2-4 times a year. Anyways, I'm not really into jewelry right now, more into scrap gold, like cash for gold.
Not in August, but in Sept, there's a jewelry fair in Shenzhen.
Info here:
http://www.bvents.com/event/386052-shenzhen-international-jewellery-fair
As a side note, according to the article stub, 70% of the jewelry made in China is made in Shenzhen.
SE Asia Joe
06-25-10, 02:28
LOL. I only popped her twice and the last one was around 9:00 AM. I took her out for breakfast in the morning and when she came back she took a nap and when she got up we went for lunch and after we came back to the room and she took her stuff and left and it was after 2:00 PM. Oh, and I took the regular girl back as model was having her periods. Good thing or I would have brought both of them back and I can only pop 2 times or 3 times the max in a 24 hour period. I am not much younger than SEA_Joe. Right SEAJ?
Seaj,
I thought you were referring BSD as BSD but I think you are referring me as BSD. So I think this can't be good. What do you mean by BSD when you are referring me as BSD? And WTF. My posts don't show up for hours and hours but they do show up and by then they are too late. And, also, I am only going to be active on this board till I am here in CP. After that, you won't see a post from me until I am back in CP.
Yesterday 22:06
1. Whaddya mean??!!!
I am 26 Y.O. Blond, blue eyed and I come from Sweden.
You mean you're in your teens?
2. BSD - Big Swingin Dick - guy who goes around throwing $$ all around. Throw some around to BS Dave please - the guy works hard for you!
3. Harummmph..! Active on ISG ONLY when in CP? Only use ISG to your convenience? Man - that's BAD!! Certainly is NOT the spirit of this board - besides which, you ain't gonna keep in touch with some of the friends you've made thru ISG? Harummmph!
4. Yeah - you post some more, get up to 25 posts I think, and your post will come up immediately.
SEAJ
1. Whaddya mean?!
I am 26 year old Blond, blue eyed and I come from Sweden.
You mean you're in your teens?
2. BSD. Big Swingin Dick. Guy who goes around throwing $$ all around. Throw some around to BS Dave please. The guy works hard for you!
3. Harummmph.! Active on ISG ONLY when in CP? Only use ISG to your convenience? Man. That's BAD! Certainly is NOT the spirit of this board. Besides which, you ain't going to keep in touch with some of the friends you've made thru ISG? Harummmph!
4. Yeah. You post some more, get up to 25 posts I think, and your post will come up immediately.
SEAJAhhh. I need 25 reports for my reports to start appearing immediately. Well, you combined a few points in one report and I going to do the opposite, more reports and few points. That will get me up to 25 reports.
...and even more importantly TRANSLATE for you.
I think everybody who comes to China should invest in either iPhone, iPod, or iPad. Then download a couple of translation and dictionary apps. There's hundreds, so try out the free versions and then pay the $5 or so if you think it's worthwhile.
I do a lot of translating for my friends when they come with me to China and at best, it's an annoying task.
I think if guys want BSD to do all their translating and crap for them, then they should offer to pay him at least the daily translator rate, which is usually 400-500 per day.
Seriously, it's really annoying to be waken up at 7am after a night of drinking because a guy calls you up asking you what a girl is saying. Like I care... Deal with it yourself and let me sleep. I mean how hard is it to give the girl some money and send her away? It's not rocket science.
I even remember one expat friend telling he hooked up with a new guy and apparently he had some problem with the girl. The guy wanted the expat to take care of it and make the girl do what he wanted. WTF is that? It's not like he's a pimp. Guy does him a favor and he gets bitched at. Scenes like that happen once in a while and it's the main reason some of the really senior guys won't meet up with new guys unless they can provide references or something.
So in closing let me say, make your trip more enjoyable and be less of a nuisance and follow this simple suggestion. Get an Apple device and download some apps. Girls get a kick out of it too so it's really win-win.
1. Whaddya mean?
2. BSD. Big Swingin Dick. Guy who goes around throwing $$ all around. Throw some around to BS Dave please. The guy works hard for you!
SEAJGee SEAJ, made a mistake. I admitted to it. It won't happen again. So please let it go. BTW, I do not throw money around and as far as BSD, he is a good guy and he treats everyone well, I am no exception. CP would not even be on my top 10 mongering destinations if it was not for BSD and the excellent help he provides. Speaking of excellence, one of the sauna girls here at Clipper provided an excellent service yesterday and kept it going until I had to ask her to stop and let me go back to my room. WOW!
I think everybody who comes to China should invest in either iPhone, iPod, or iPad. Then download a couple of translation and dictionary apps. There's hundreds, so try out the free versions and then pay the $5 or so if you think it's worthwhile.
I do a lot of translating for my friends when they come with me to China and at best, it's an annoying task.
I think if guys want BSD to do all their translating and crap for them, then they should offer to pay him at least the daily translator rate, which is usually 400-500 per day.
Seriously, it's really annoying to be waken up at 7am after a night of drinking because a guy calls you up asking you what a girl is saying. Like I care... Deal with it yourself and let me sleep. I mean how hard is it to give the girl some money and send her away? It's not rocket science.
So in closing let me say, make your trip more enjoyable and be less of a nuisance and follow this simple suggestion. Get an Apple device and download some apps. Girls get a kick out of it too so it's really win-win.Actually, and BSD can attest to this. My BSD annoyance rate is almost zero. I do ask for his help when in KTVs or when he is organizing events for KTVs. Other than that, if I need his help we can work it out via SMS. I have a couple of translator on my iPhone and one of them is iTranslate pro which is not free and I showed once to BSD and he did not think it did a very good job. Do you recommend any other ones? ITranslate pro needs a WIFI or 3G network to work and if you don't have an access to the Network then it does not do anything.
Well it had been almost a month since my last visit, so I will be up for Friday night fun! I am bringing an "experienced" KTV buddy, but it is first visit to CP. It should be a fun night I hope. SEA J, any chance you will be around as well!.Great. So hopefully see you tonight.
1. Whaddya mean?
3. Harummmph..! Active on ISG ONLY when in CP? Only use ISG to your convenience? Man - that's BAD!! Certainly is NOT the spirit of this board - besides which, you ain't gonna keep in touch with some of the friends you've made thru ISG? Harummmph!
SEAJWell, what I meant was that I would have nothing useful to contribute. I am not sure even now I am contributing anything useful. I just have too much time on hand when in CP and when I am back at States I typically have zero down time. Even weekends are pretty busy doing the work related activities. So if I have something useful to contribute then I definitely will. I certainly had enjoyed the company of new friends and had a lot of fun and hopefully it will continue tonight.
1. Whaddya mean??!!!
4. Yeah - you post some more, get up to 25 posts I think, and your post will come up immediately.
SEAJIs it 25 posts yet? I did try to post as many times as it makes sense. Hopefully no one is getting annoyed by too many posts.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 04:56
Get an Apple device and download some apps. Girls get a kick out of it too so it's really win-win.Agreed. I know I've more than once burdened Jetsetter and BS Dave to help me translate and know how annoying it can be. Guess it's time to bust out my Pimselur cds.
Another good site which Jetsetter referred me to to translate characters to pin yin is. Pin1yin1.com. That is if my damn BB is be able to get onto the internet. Atleast now my iphone is unlocked and can be used for my next trip.
If you don't want to spend money on an iphone or itouch. Get a little english-Chinese translator. There are more than a few times where I've seen non-speakers use the little thing to communicate inside the KTV.
Oh BTW. Girls love to play dou di zhu. Again another game Jetsetter and BS Dave got me into and girls can play that for hours at a time on the iphone.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 05:02
After that, you won't see a post from me until I am back in CP.I have to say that I lurk more than I post guess SEAJ has reminded me that this board is about sharing. Reading this board helps me look forward to my next CP trip. Too bad I have to wait another 7 weeks until I'm out there again. Also reading the posts reminds me as to why I work so hard. So that I can play in CP!
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 05:05
Staying till 2 pm is pretty cool of her. I think all of your girls stay until then. Unless you give them the boot earlier no?
Jettsetter
06-25-10, 06:05
Thanks Jett,
I really need to think of something. CP's just so much fun and I'm not getting any younger. I just can see myself in 10 years, kicking myself in the butt for not going back there.
I need to brainstorm more and fast, I want to be there in August, a lot of my friends from Cali are going.
Going to be a busy time in August boys.. I'll be there and so will Mit 4, and LA Dude, from the looks of it... (albeit at different times). At that time, hopefully we'll be setting up HQ somewhere in CP and can have some fun times there (insiders know what I'm talking about).
Anyways, hope to see everyone there, and to repeat the good times we've had in the past... Always an adventure. I've met some great folks in CP...
But remember boys... it's a fantasy in CP... don't get too attached. Take it for what it's worth, have fun... in the end, you're as much as a **** as the girl you're f***ing, so don't ***** when she doesn't fall in love with you because you're turning around the next night and looking for another fresh piece of meat... you dog! I'm in love with the lifestyle...
it's called "Rockstar"...
-J
Jettsetter
06-25-10, 06:14
My opinion is that you should do as everyone else does in the room. The chinese are big into face... and honestly if you're throwing money around, it makes everyone else look bad (now if you want to pay the room bill, which happens alot in the big business guys I've hung out with before, then by all means, go to town...) otherwise, just stick with the regimen, and do as the romans (so to speak)...have fun with your brothers, and don't ruin it for everyone else... if you can't (and I'm not referrnig to anyone in particular, I'm just saying in general), then don't party with us...
You (and again i'm referring in general), can be a money throwing pimp daddy in your own room...
If you want to hang out with the crew, then just go with the system... don't make anybody look bad, have fun and save your money. If you want to spoil your girl, take her back to your room, F her in 5 different positions and give her a handsome tip... you'll look like the biggest baddest cool guy ever... she'll love you forever, and fall hopelessly in love with you.... err.. .or maybe not..
maybe she'll just end up thinking that you're stupid enough to give her that much extra money while she goes back and hands her boyfriend the extra money you just gave her...
Look, I don't think there's anything wrong with giving a gal a small tip or something to show that they're special to you.. believe me, I and many others have done the same thing with good results... but do it on your own... in the end, i've found that it really doesn't make that big a difference..if she really likes you, she likes you no matter how much you tip.. if she thinks you're just a scrub giving out extra money... then that's all you are.
SE Asia Joe
06-25-10, 08:54
Actually, and BSD can attest to this. My BSD annoyance rate is almost zero. I do ask for his help when in KTVs or when he is organizing events for KTVs. Other than that, if I need his help we can work it out via SMS. I have a couple of translator on my iPhone and one of them is iTranslate pro which is not free and I showed once to BSD and he did not think it did a very good job. Do you recommend any other ones? ITranslate pro needs a WIFI or 3G network to work and if you don't have an access to the Network then it does not do anything.
Hey DHP - no biggee. but it's like Jetsetter says about being in Rome etc..
Plus you gotta remember that BS Dave IS doing this for a living and not that he enjoys going to KTV's footsies etc. Most of us already know this and thus do "take care of him in cash", no matter how much or how little he does do for you..... and I was just yanking your leg a bit!!
Hope you don't mind as I THINK that you probably did not fully realize that in the final analysis - not much - or even nuthin' - is gonna happen if Dave don't do what he does.
Just IMHO
SEAJ
Ps. Heres another chance for you to fire off another post!! LOL!!
I have to say that I lurk more than I post guess SEAJ has reminded me that this board is about sharing. Reading this board helps me look forward to my next CP trip. Too bad I have to wait another 7 weeks until I'm out there again.
To quote Dan Hawaii, "Sharing is caring..." LOL
Dude, in 7 weeks? why have I not heard this news? I'm all giddy and goose-bumpy! Be still my beating heart...
All this talk of the iPhone has me tempted to bring mine over. I haven't done so because (a) I use my iPhone a lot and I don't wanna "save" girls numbers and names on this phone (b) don't wanna carry two phones around (c) with all the messing around in KTV rooms, don't want my phone dropped or sat on and (d) more stuff in pockets, more stuff to lose.
But I do see a lot of people using it and with a few WiFi spots, they can go on the web (but slow, i'm told). But for the applications, I guess it's really useful for language assistance. I for one was dumb enough to buy a chinese brand electronic dictionary. It's truly a piece of shit and I spent a good 800 rmb on it. Slow and works like a electronic out of the 80s. Bought it at some chain electronic retailer like Sun-something. So bottom line is, iPhone for any translation dictionary is the best (and a foreigner's most logical) choice.
And yeah, most electronic dictionaries are Chinese to English or a dictionary for looking up meanings. Very hard to do English to Chinese translation cause that's not what most consumers look for in an China bought electronic dictionary.
And speaking of electronics, I' often get giddy when I see someone using a new or cool gadget. Granted, it's not cheap buying in China (and often NOT recommended), but if you're in the States, consider yourself lucky to be able to get electronics at a good price. If you're in HK, the right place could save you a lot of money. If you're in China, it's best to go with someone who can help you get the best deal AND make sure the seller is honest (for problem shooting or future maintenance). But some China made knockoffs are sweet and really cool to play with. But again, go with someone who can help you. Things break down either quickly (within a few minutes) or a few days/weeks later.
Actually, and BSD can attest to this. My BSD annoyance rate is almost zero. I do ask for his help when in KTVs or when he is organizing events for KTVs. Other than that, if I need his help we can work it out via SMS. I have a couple of translator on my iPhone and one of them is iTranslate pro which is not free and I showed once to BSD and he did not think it did a very good job. Do you recommend any other ones? ITranslate pro needs a WIFI or 3G network to work and if you don't have an access to the Network then it does not do anything.
Wasn't saying you were annoying to BSD. My friends though, pull weird crap on me all the time. That's ok though, I've known them since we were kids. Just saying, that kind of nonsense from strangers is really bad form.
As for translation software, iTranslate is not good for two reasons, one you mentioned, need an internet connection, the second is that it doesn't talk for you. What you want is a phrasebook, not a dictionary. A dictionary is good if you already speak the language and want to increase your vocabulary or something. If you don't speak any of it, then it's not going to help much for various reasons with the top reason being it would be painfully slow. I posted earlier about a free version of something called Lingopal for Mandarin. It's not perfect by any means, and it's very limited, but for basic stuff, it'll get the job done. There's also another app called "Talk Chinese." Again, there's a free one and a paid one. Again, it has a bunch of phrases which it will speak in Mandarin for you. There's another free one called "Mandarin Phrases." Again, same basic premise, but has a larger phrasebook.
In case you do need a dictionary, get one that has a built in data base and doesn't need an internet connection. The one I use is "KTdict C-E." The best use for this program is if you don't understand what someone is saying, you can use the iPhone, iPod, iPad Chinese keyboard (either handwriting or pinyin) to have that someone input it and look it up.
Look, I don't think there's anything wrong with giving a gal a small tip or something to show that they're special to you.. believe me, I and many others have done the same thing with good results... but do it on your own... in the end, i've found that it really doesn't make that big a difference..if she really likes you, she likes you no matter how much you tip.. if she thinks you're just a scrub giving out extra money... then that's all you are.
Very good advice.
Early on in my KTV career. My friend told me not to bother giving extra to the girls. As a rebellious asshole in my youth, I of course did it anyway, and didn't tell him. If overnight was 1500, I'd give the girl 2000 and thought to myself, "no big deal and I like the girl, and I'm sure she appreciates it and will like me more for it."
Later on I found out something which made me rethink the entire tipping dynamic. The girls don't appreciate it and don't like you any better for it. As a matter of fact, they pretty much refer to you as an idiot, as in "that idiot last night gave me an extra 500, what a moron." That was a wakeup call for me.
A lot of times, I probably come off to some as being unnecessarily harsh on KTV girls. Believe me, I'm not. The face they show you and the face they show their friends are completely different. Which one do you think is the real girl? Probably neither, but I'm guessing the one they show their friends is closer to the truth. It's one thing to hang out with a single girl for a day or two. She's probably all lovey dovey and stuff around you. But when they're away from you, they're completely different people and will slight you and talk about you at the drop of a hat. I've heard enough of these conversations to last me a lifetime and to be honest, ever since that period in my life when I was hanging out with all those girls, I really have no desire to befriend girls from KTV.
Wasn't saying you were annoying to BSD. My friends though, pull weird crap on me all the time. That's ok though, I've known them since we were kids. Just saying, that kind of nonsense from strangers is really bad form.
As for translation software, iTranslate is not good for two reasons, one you mentioned, need an internet connection, the second is that it doesn't talk for you. What you want is a phrasebook, not a dictionary. A dictionary is good if you already speak the language and want to increase your vocabulary or something. If you don't speak any of it, then it's not going to help much for various reasons with the top reason being it would be painfully slow. I posted earlier about a free version of something called Lingopal for Mandarin. It's not perfect by any means, and it's very limited, but for basic stuff, it'll get the job done. There's also another app called "Talk Chinese." Again, there's a free one and a paid one. Again, it has a bunch of phrases which it will speak in Mandarin for you. There's another free one called "Mandarin Phrases." Again, same basic premise, but has a larger phrasebook.
In case you do need a dictionary, get one that has a built in data base and doesn't need an internet connection. The one I use is "KTdict C-E." The best use for this program is if you don't understand what someone is saying, you can use the iPhone, iPod, iPad Chinese keyboard (either handwriting or pinyin) to have that someone input it and look it up.
Dam, I confused iTranslate with another piece of software called Translator. Turns out I have it and it's good for phrases, although some are off a bit, and the pro version will speak for you. The problem though, again, is it needs an internet connection.
Robin Mill
06-25-10, 17:41
I've heard enough of these conversations to last me a lifetime and to be honest, ever since that period in my life when I was hanging out with all those girls, I really have no desire to befriend girls from KTV.
You know what Moodyz, I really need to learn more from you. Please pass me some of your vibes… I am still a gullible sucker after all these years of mongering…
Went to Fuhao again, may be a dozen guys and 2 dozen girls. Can't remember the count but pretty close. I think everyone had a blast and contributed to the party atmosphere. I still have a few days in CP but reality has started to kick in that it is going to end in pretty soon. Already feeling a bit blue about it.
You know what Moodyz, I really need to learn more from you. Please pass me some of your vibes… I am still a gullible sucker after all these years of mongering…
You just have to remember one thing. Girls will lie to get what they want from you. This can be a lot of things, and not necessarily money.
I knew one girl, she was a real **** and her girlfriends told me she's really adventurous in bed, BJ, anal, whatever. Whenever she was with a customer though, most of the time she would be a 大, if you know what I mean by that. Most customers don't care and it was easier for her. I no longer subscribe to the "it's ok for the hooker to just lay there and do nothing" school of thought. If a hooker wants to do that, she should pay me.
Girls will feign all sorts of crap to make things easier on them. They'll tell you stuff like, "you're doing it so long it hurts." That's total BS. Please don't tell me that a hooker who fucks for a living is not used to the feeling of a dick in her pussy. That's like a piano player saying his fingers hurt. Even if it's unpleasant for her, it's her job and she should just suck it up.
What makes it easier for the girls to get away with stuff like this is that for some reason, a lot of guys seem to forget they're with a professional. Which really, is what the girl wants. What cracks me up the most is hookers who tell guys they don't kiss. WTF is that all about? And guys believe it. I mean come on, if a girl is a hooker, the last thing she's unwilling to do is kiss. I mean come on, she's willing to let you fuck her or suck your dick for money, but she doesn't want to kiss you? That's just absurd. That's like being a soccer player and being afraid of touching the ball. You picked the wrong profession.
I should mention though, there are a lot of girls I do not want to kiss for various reasons. One is bad breath, a lot of girls have it for whatever reason. Another is sauna girls, I won't kiss them if you paid me. Think about it, a half hour earlier, her mouth was probably sucking on some dudes dick and then licking his asshole. There's a good chance to get e. coli from kissing her.
A lot of guys forget, there are no feelings to hurt, you're not having sex with the girl because she likes you, you're having sex with her because YOU PAID HER. She'll have sex with your ugly cousin if he paid her, and if another guy offered her more money than you, she'll go with him in a heartbeat. There's no feelings involved and whatever feelings you have are only in your head. If you don't believe me, tell the girl you won't pay her and see how far that gets you and see how quickly she changes from a nice lovey dovey fake girlfriend to a crazed wildcat demanding her money. Hookers have no feelings for their customers, they can't, if they do, they can't hack it in this business.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 19:38
Dude, in 7 weeks? why have I not heard this news? I'm all giddy and goose-bumpy! Be still my beating heart...You don't need to hear about it. Just be there. Heard you were going to be in CP for a freaking month. Talk about being a bastard. I'll be slaving at work trying to keep the lights on in the summer while you get a footie and hang out at the KTV's all night long.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 19:42
All this talk of the iPhone has me tempted to bring mine over. I haven't done so because (a) I use my iPhone a lot and I don't wanna "save" girls numbers and names on this phone (b) don't wanna carry two phones around (c) with all the messing around in KTV rooms, don't want my phone dropped or sat on and (d) more stuff in pockets, more stuff to lose.
But I do see a lot of people using it and with a few WiFi spots, they can go on the web (but slow, i'm told).Yes I agree carrying two phones is a pita. I was only using it at the HK cafe down the street from the Clipper. Was trying to use it at Starbucks but their connection is slower than dial up. Now that my iPhone is unlocked. I'll only be using that since my stupid BB can't retrieve email nor access the internet. And if I do mess it up. It'll just be another reason to get the new iPhone.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 19:45
Going to be a busy time in August boys.. I'll be there and so will Mit 4, and LA Dude, from the looks of it... (albeit at different times).Yep. Special trip just to party with you again. Damn it's been a long time homie.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-25-10, 19:59
Plus you gotta remember that BS Dave IS doing this for a living and not that he enjoys going to KTV's footsies etc. Most of us already know this and thus do "take care of him in cash", no matter how much or how little he does do for you Yep. BS Dave was sick one night and still came out to make sure the party was going strong. Guy works hard to make sure everything is in order. Important thing to remember is how we tip here in the states no matter how shitty the service is. Again make sure to tip the right person.
You just have to remember one thing. Girls will lie to get what they want from you. This can be a lot of things, and not necessarily money.
I knew one girl, she was a real **** and her girlfriends told me she's really adventurous in bed, BJ, anal, whatever. Whenever she was with a customer though, most of the time she would be a 大, if you know what I mean by that. Most customers don't care and it was easier for her. I no longer subscribe to the "it's ok for the hooker to just lay there and do nothing" school of thought. If a hooker wants to do that, she should pay me.
Girls will feign all sorts of crap to make things easier on them. They'll tell you stuff like, "you're doing it so long it hurts." That's total BS. Please don't tell me that a hooker who fucks for a living is not used to the feeling of a dick in her pussy. That's like a piano player saying his fingers hurt. Even if it's unpleasant for her, it's her job and she should just suck it up.
What makes it easier for the girls to get away with stuff like this is that for some reason, a lot of guys seem to forget they're with a professional. Which really, is what the girl wants. What cracks me up the most is hookers who tell guys they don't kiss. WTF is that all about? And guys believe it. I mean come on, if a girl is a hooker, the last thing she's unwilling to do is kiss. I mean come on, she's willing to let you fuck her or suck your dick for money, but she doesn't want to kiss you? That's just absurd. That's like being a soccer player and being afraid of touching the ball. You picked the wrong profession.
I should mention though, there are a lot of girls I do not want to kiss for various reasons. One is bad breath, a lot of girls have it for whatever reason. Another is sauna girls, I won't kiss them if you paid me. Think about it, a half hour earlier, her mouth was probably sucking on some dudes dick and then licking his asshole. There's a good chance to get e. coli from kissing her.
A lot of guys forget, there are no feelings to hurt, you're not having sex with the girl because she likes you, you're having sex with her because YOU PAID HER. She'll have sex with your ugly cousin if he paid her, and if another guy offered her more money than you, she'll go with him in a heartbeat. There's no feelings involved and whatever feelings you have are only in your head. If you don't believe me, tell the girl you won't pay her and see how far that gets you and see how quickly she changes from a nice lovey dovey fake girlfriend to a crazed wildcat demanding her money. Hookers have no feelings for their customers, they can't, if they do, they can't hack it in this business.I agree with everything Moody said above and would like to add that the girls here do have a choice if they want to go with you or not. Obviously guys go through the selection process but girls have their own selection criteria that may not be exactly like ours. I have seen more than once that some guy wants to take a girl and the girl tells mommy NO or walks away. It happened to me once and BSD said the girl thought my member was too big and did not want to go with me. Obviously, she did not use her professional judgment about this and had she gone out with me she would have needed a microscope to find my member. OK. Maybe a little exaggeration here the point is that these are professional girls and probably have seen more guys than I could imagine. While I treat them with a lot of respect as I think given a choice they may not be in this business but they are in this business and at the end they should have a happy customer.
Went to Fuhao again, may be a dozen guys and 2 dozen girls. Can't remember the count but pretty close. I think everyone had a blast and contributed to the party atmosphere. I still have a few days in CP but reality has started to kick in that it is going to end in pretty soon. Already feeling a bit blue about it.Gee, every part of my body hurts right now.
Got to control myself tonight.
Is it 25 posts yet?
SE Asia Joe
06-26-10, 02:05
You just have to remember one thing. Girls will lie to get what they want from you. This can be a lot of things, and not necessarily money.
I knew one girl, she was a real **** and her girlfriends told me she's really adventurous in bed, BJ, anal, whatever. Whenever she was with a customer though, most of the time she would be a 大, if you know what I mean by that. Most customers don't care and it was easier for her. I no longer subscribe to the "it's ok for the hooker to just lay there and do nothing" school of thought. If a hooker wants to do that, she should pay me.
Girls will feign all sorts of crap to make things easier on them. They'll tell you stuff like, "you're doing it so long it hurts." That's total BS. Please don't tell me that a hooker who fucks for a living is not used to the feeling of a dick in her pussy. That's like a piano player saying his fingers hurt. Even if it's unpleasant for her, it's her job and she should just suck it up.
What makes it easier for the girls to get away with stuff like this is that for some reason, a lot of guys seem to forget they're with a professional. Which really, is what the girl wants. What cracks me up the most is hookers who tell guys they don't kiss. WTF is that all about? And guys believe it. I mean come on, if a girl is a hooker, the last thing she's unwilling to do is kiss. I mean come on, she's willing to let you fuck her or suck your dick for money, but she doesn't want to kiss you? That's just absurd. That's like being a soccer player and being afraid of touching the ball. You picked the wrong profession.
I should mention though, there are a lot of girls I do not want to kiss for various reasons. One is bad breath, a lot of girls have it for whatever reason. Another is sauna girls, I won't kiss them if you paid me. Think about it, a half hour earlier, her mouth was probably sucking on some dudes dick and then licking his asshole. There's a good chance to get e. coli from kissing her.
A lot of guys forget, there are no feelings to hurt, you're not having sex with the girl because she likes you, you're having sex with her because YOU PAID HER. She'll have sex with your ugly cousin if he paid her, and if another guy offered her more money than you, she'll go with him in a heartbeat. There's no feelings involved and whatever feelings you have are only in your head. If you don't believe me, tell the girl you won't pay her and see how far that gets you and see how quickly she changes from a nice lovey dovey fake girlfriend to a crazed wildcat demanding her money. Hookers have no feelings for their customers, they can't, if they do, they can't hack it in this business.
Rough assesment....but unfortunately VERY true in just about all cases.
But then again, you must also remember that they ARE also human beings; with desires, wants, frailties, failings, pride etc etc; who happens to be in the situation that they are in. Please also remember this.
Even Moody with his beliefs - I've seen him with gals and he actually treats them very decently - NOT how you'd think he would, reading his musings here.
Also worth it to remember that even if it was a "paid encounter," it still takes 2 to tango - you treat her like a cheap hoor, she'll treat you as a sucker John. You treat her as a human being - she'll treat you likewise. Hell you ARE already paying her for her services - why not make it a pleasant experience?
Just my POV
SEAJ
Even Moody with his beliefs - I've seen him with gals and he actually treats them very decently - NOT how you'd think he would, reading his musings here.
Also worth it to remember that even if it was a "paid encounter," it still takes 2 to tango - you treat her like a cheap hoor, she'll treat you as a sucker John. You treat her as a human being - she'll treat you likewise.
SEAJ
I don't think I've ever said to treat the girls poorly. I just want guys to understand what goes on in those pretty little heads. In humans, motivation is everything. Too often though, guys confuse girls' motivations for the things they do.
Next to motivation, reaction is second most important, and guys usually don't understand or see girls' true reactions. Like the tipping example, you might think she'll be grateful to you and remember you among all her other customers as being a really generous guy. That's usually not the case though. Sure they're happy to get the extra money, but they're far from grateful and will usually make fun of you to her friends.
Listen, I really don't care what guys do with their money. If a guy wants to buy girl a 7000RMB necklace or buy her a 15,000RMB laptop, that's no skin off my nose since it's not my money. Same goes if a guy gives a girl a couple hundred extra. I just want them to know what's going on in the girls' head when you present them with something like that.
All that stuff aside though, I don't think I have to remind anybody that KTV girls are fun as hell. Even with all the nonsense they do, I still have a lot of fun with them. My modus operandus is this. I try to charm the girls with my personality and not money. I'll sweet talk them into getting what I want, and usually, it works for me.
Fast Eddie 48
06-26-10, 04:25
Going to be a busy time in August boys. I'll be there and so will Mit 4, and LA Dude, from the looks of it. (albeit at different times). At that time, hopefully we'll be setting up HQ somewhere in CP and can have some fun times there (insiders know what I'm talking about).
Anyways, hope to see everyone there, and to repeat the good times we've had in the past. Always an adventure. I've met some great folks in CP.
But remember boys. It's a fantasy in CP. Don't get too attached. Take it for what it's worth, have fun. In the end, you're as much as a **** as the girl you're f***ing, so don't ***** when she doesn't fall in love with you because you're turning around the next night and looking for another fresh piece of meat. You dog! I'm in love with the lifestyle.
It's called "Rockstar".
-JJet,
There are the guangzhou food festival in Guangzhou in Aug also, great for st and gourment food around mid Aug for 2 weeks. Much better than the canton fair that is going down hill.
Fast Eddie 48
Robin Mill
06-26-10, 08:54
You just have to remember one thing. Girls will lie to get what they want from you. This can be a lot of things, and not necessarily money.
Thanks moody for your thoughts. Great insights, but as what SEAJ has said, they have feelings too and would prefer to go out with guys whom they prefer. Well, imagine you are a gigolo, you would prefer to service Tara Banks than Elizabeth Taylor right?
I am a sucker for feeling and emotions. Those who have partied with me will realise that at the end of the night, the gal and I are behaving like long lost lovers. I know this is definitely not cool, especially if the gal really fall for it (or will they, doubt so). But I need to have that to really get my mojo going. So I can’t really go for the ‘wham bam thank you madam’ kind of sex. Even gals that I pick from BBS, usually I chat and play with them for an hour before doing the deal.
I am quite attached to a BBS gal now. She has a Taiwanese guy taking care of her for the past 2 years. We chat and bicker a lot, and she told me a lot of her stories. I also analysis her relationship with her ‘sugar-daddy’ with her and I probe her into what kind of future she want to have. I will write more in my next post, as I believe her thoughts are really typical of all working gals here.
Moody, are you in CP now? I will be here till next Friday. Hope to meet up with you!
Robin Mill
06-26-10, 08:56
Went to Fuhao again, may be a dozen guys and 2 dozen girls. Can't remember the count but pretty close. I think everyone had a blast and contributed to the party atmosphere. I still have a few days in CP but reality has started to kick in that it is going to end in pretty soon. Already feeling a bit blue about it.
Haha. It is part and parcel of party life in CP, and Post-CP-Blues is going to be classified as a real medical condition soon.
Thanks moody for your thoughts. Great insights, but as what SEAJ has said, they have feelings too and would prefer to go out with guys whom they prefer. Well, imagine you are a gigolo, you would prefer to service Tara Banks than Elizabeth Taylor right?
Well, Elizabeth Taylor in the 1950's was one of the most beautiful women in the world. ;) Aside from that though, women's desires are different than men's desires. If you look around, you rarely see really good looking guys with ugly women. However, good looking women with ugly guys is rather common. Liz Taylor during the height of her beauty married Eddie Fisher, who was plain looking at best. Frank Sinatra, great singer and great charisma, but again, not the best looking guy in the world, but he still ended up with Ava Gardner. Most people probably wouldn't know, but Mickey Rooney, a short round plain looking guy, probably had more hot tail than JFK and Warren Beatty combined. Even Marilyn Monroe married Joe DiMaggio and Arthur Miller. Both great at what they did, but nobody mistook them for good looking guys. Even in recent times, look at guys like Axl Rose, Steven Tyler, and even Howard Stern, all rather plain looking guys who manage to hook up with attractive women.
The point is, women often don't look at a man's attractiveness when seeking a potential mate. Test after test have proven that most women actually prefer average looking guys with facial scars. A guy being unattractive is really not a hindrance in he is seeking a pretty girl to befriend. I have a Chinese friend, not the best looking guy in the world and a bit on the heavy side, he still attracts some of the hottest Chinese women I've seen. Evolution has made women choose mates who are more likely to be able to take care of her and her offspring. So basically, women will be attracted to guys like OWL who can beat up 4 guys at once, or guys with money. Looks are something like 4-5 down on the list of important criteria in seeking a potential mate. Same thing goes for age.
I am a sucker for feeling and emotions. Those who have partied with me will realise that at the end of the night, the gal and I are behaving like long lost lovers. I know this is definitely not cool, especially if the gal really fall for it (or will they, doubt so). But I need to have that to really get my mojo going. So I can’t really go for the ‘wham bam thank you madam’ kind of sex. Even gals that I pick from BBS, usually I chat and play with them for an hour before doing the deal.
That's all fine. Everybody has different things they want from a woman. Some guys just want to grope the girls at the KTV and then fuck the girls right away in the hotel room and then send them away. Some guys like to play the girlfriend thing up to the hilt. You just have to be able to recognize that there is a lot of artifice in the whole experience. You can pretend she's your long lost lover, she's your wife, she's your mistress, she's your high school sweetheart, she's the girl next door who broke your heart, she's your 7th grade French teacher you had a crush on, she's whatever you want. The girl will happily go along with it. The important thing is when you wake up in the morning, you recognize that it's over, and you pay the girl and send her home. The next night you can start all over again, because that's exactly what the girl's going to do.
Too often, guys develop feelings for KTV girls, that are just simply not reciprocated. Guys lose sight of the fact that it's the girls' job to make them feel good and happy. A lot of guys confuse the girls' just doing their job for genuine affection. I'm not saying it never happens, but if a KTV girl were to fall for every guy she likes, she'd never make it in the business. She would be an emotional wreck. Any girl who's been at it for any length of time will have developed defense mechanisms to maintain her emotional stability, while at the same time, developing skills to make her better at her job and make it less demanding. That's why I say, girls lie. The easiest way to do it all is to just lie to the customer and probably lie to themselves a little bit too.
To any guy who thinks a girl really likes him, just perform this simple test. Tell the girl you are no longer going to give her money because you don't want to be a customer, but rather a friend. If the girl agrees to continue seeing you, then it's all good. Don't be surprised though, if she always seems to be busy when you call her to come over.
Moody, are you in CP now? I will be here till next Friday. Hope to meet up with you!
Sorry, but not in China at the moment. Might be around sometime in August, and if not then, sometime in October.
P.S. BTW, there are ways to get girls to like you. It's a bit underhanded, but it works. The key is foreplay. Play with the girl's breasts a lot, especially her nipples before having sex with her. Women have a physiological response to breast and nipple stimulation. Whether they like it or not they subconsciously start to lower stress levels, reduce flight response, and feel more trusting. I'm not saying this is some magic trick where you pinch a girl's nipples a few times and she'll love you, but if you do it right over the course of weeks or months, she'll respond.
Wish I could say that I had another wonderful night in CP but for me today was not a good day. Earlier I had a facial done and there must be something I am allergic to as since the facial massage my whole body is like burning up every few minutes. There is another party going on right now but I left early, way early, even before the party really got going. I think I'll head over to Silvery Holiday spa and sit in cold water for a few minutes. For me the highlight of night was the excellent chicken dinner at one of the restaurants closed to tonight's KTV. KTV itself was not that great with an older sound system, I did not find any girl I really wanted to party with but I still selected one, and I did not find the girls very attractive. All this could be that I am not 100% today or maybe there was not really any beautiful girl (beauty is in the eye of beholder) so maybe it is just me. I think I should head out to Macau or HKG in the morning.
Haha. It is part and parcel of party life in CP, and Post-CP-Blues is going to be classified as a real medical condition soon.Hey Will Robin, what's up with all those police vans in front of Swan Lake hotel? Is it some kind of crack down or something normal for the weekend?
Went to Fuhao again, may be a dozen guys and 2 dozen girls. Can't remember the count but pretty close. I think everyone had a blast and contributed to the party atmosphere. I still have a few days in CP but reality has started to kick in that it is going to end in pretty soon. Already feeling a bit blue about it.
It was a great night ( at least for me) and a treat to party with you! I am sorry to hear Sat. didn't work out to well.
And now to the "field report"....
I had the chance to visit CP again on Friday and enjoyed once again the fruits of Fu Hao.
I brought a friend with me that was an experienced KTV guy, but had never been to CP and was usually accompanied by friends to Korean KTV. He had never experienced a "flower street" arrangement before and was amazed.
As it turns out we met up with a couple of guys from the board I had not met before, one experienced monger I knew from Shanghai, and a few other guys that happened to be in town. The afternoon began with what has become a necessary part of my visits to CP, a great massage in a place recommended by BSD. The massage is not sexual, but has some of the most wonderful sensual overtones I have ever experienced in a massage.
BSD had arranged a huge room in the KTV and I guess we had about 8 or 9 guys and at least 15 girls. It seemed like everyone had chosen well at the flower street, I got one at the "preview" and then selected my second one from the main event. It was the best I have ever done as both girls were attentive from the opening bell. Having two( or more) cute girls vying for ones attentions is a life affirming event and these gals were doing everything they could to make my decision of whom to take out difficult. It seemed that all the girls were on their game that night and it was a really fun group of guys!
I decided to take my first choice back to the hotel, her willingness to "do anything" was the deciding factor. I wouldn't try "everything" but she did keep her word.
This gal was ready to go from the moment the hotel room door closed. She dropped to her knees and started a BBBJ almost before I could sit down on the edge of the bed. It was the preview of a few more surprises.
She welcomed and seemed to enjoy the advances of my tongue, and then it got REALLY interesting, she grabbed my head and pulled it tight as she came and then the flood gates opened! I have had one or two squirters before, but they warned me before hand. This girl either didn't know it was going to happen, couldn't figure out how to tell me, or was afraid I would stop before finishing her. I think it was the second reason. She soaked the bed spread! I mean like pouring a liter bottle of water on the bed! I don't think she expected it to happen, because as soon as she realized what she had done, she jumped up and cowered in the corner of the room and covered her head in shame. It took me a while to assure her it was ok, and that I was not angry. We went into the shower and she started kissing me and rubbing all over and I returned the favor, the next thing I know she comes again with a similar resulting stream. I have to admit I was amazed! I had never experienced anything like this before. We finished washing up, she dragged me into bed and into one of the most fun "wrestling" matches I have ever experienced! I made sure I finished before making her climax, as I didn't want to soak the carpet as she was bent over the desk.
I was spent, and we went to sleep or so I thought.
After about three hours of sleep, I thought I was having a really good dream, only to wake up and find her with "lil sky" buried in her mouth and she was going for the the gold standard in BJ's. We finished with her riding me like a bronco and more than a little noise. I was glad my buddy was in the room next door!
By this time I was REALLY spent and went back to sleep. I woke up about 5 hours later with her curled up in my arms and her hands cupping my now "withered" manhood, or so I thought. I tried to plead that I was done, but she was having none of it! She worked her feminine magic and was able to restore some life in what I thought was a dead soldier. This time she would continue her very good oral skills until I finished in her mouth. Truth be told I am sure there wasn't much left, but it was pleasing to me. She seemed pleased with her efforts as well.
I indicated that it was time to leave and she reluctantly got dressed to leave. I paid her the customary amount for her time and then something happened I never expected. She handed me back 200 rmb. I was shocked to say the least. I shook my head no, and gave it back to her. She didn't seem to want to take it, but as much of an "asshole"as I can be at times, I couldn't accept her proposal, especially since I didn't know why.
If anyone is interested in finding this gal, BSD had her contact info. I will probably "reserve her" the next time I go to Fu Hao, she isn't the prettiest girl, but still easy on the eyes and what a treat behind the doors, and in the KTV room!
I had made a reservation to see the girl I didn't bring home at noon, but fortunately for me she no-showed. I am not sure I could have found my male member at that time…:-))
It was a good night, even though the girl my friend had in the KTV room got so drunk we had to carry her out of the KTV room. He was bummed out, because he liked her and was looking forward to some action with her. In the end he did hook up with another girl from our party that didn't get chosen and from what he said she was a good performer as well. IMHO, she was the "hottest" of any girl we had in the room. I will make a point to find her next time as well.
What I have found is that a good KTV party is the mixture of many things, guys willing to make some new friends and interacting and mommies that encourage the girls to put some effort into having fun and making a good atmosphere.
BSD really seems to know how to fit the location with the type of group he has assembled for the night. It really helps to have someone who knows the town, at least for me it does.
I decided to take my first choice back to the hotel, her willingness to "do anything" was the deciding factor. I wouldn't try "everything" but she did keep her word.
Willingness to "do anything"..... haha! I've got to add that to my list of interview questions. I usually negotiate for specific acts but I think "anything" is better.
You just have to remember one thing. Girls will lie to get what they want from you. This can be a lot of things, and not necessarily money.
I knew one girl, she was a real **** and her girlfriends told me she's really adventurous in bed, BJ, anal, whatever. Whenever she was with a customer though, most of the time she would be a 大, if you know what I mean by that. Most customers don't care and it was easier for her. I no longer subscribe to the "it's ok for the hooker to just lay there and do nothing" school of thought. If a hooker wants to do that, she should pay me.
Girls will feign all sorts of crap to make things easier on them. They'll tell you stuff like, "you're doing it so long it hurts." That's total BS. Please don't tell me that a hooker who fucks for a living is not used to the feeling of a dick in her pussy. That's like a piano player saying his fingers hurt. Even if it's unpleasant for her, it's her job and she should just suck it up.
What makes it easier for the girls to get away with stuff like this is that for some reason, a lot of guys seem to forget they're with a professional. Which really, is what the girl wants. What cracks me up the most is hookers who tell guys they don't kiss. WTF is that all about? And guys believe it. I mean come on, if a girl is a hooker, the last thing she's unwilling to do is kiss. I mean come on, she's willing to let you fuck her or suck your dick for money, but she doesn't want to kiss you? That's just absurd. That's like being a soccer player and being afraid of touching the ball. You picked the wrong profession.
I should mention though, there are a lot of girls I do not want to kiss for various reasons. One is bad breath, a lot of girls have it for whatever reason. Another is sauna girls, I won't kiss them if you paid me. Think about it, a half hour earlier, her mouth was probably sucking on some dudes dick and then licking his asshole. There's a good chance to get e. coli from kissing her.
A lot of guys forget, there are no feelings to hurt, you're not having sex with the girl because she likes you, you're having sex with her because YOU PAID HER. She'll have sex with your ugly cousin if he paid her, and if another guy offered her more money than you, she'll go with him in a heartbeat. There's no feelings involved and whatever feelings you have are only in your head. If you don't believe me, tell the girl you won't pay her and see how far that gets you and see how quickly she changes from a nice lovey dovey fake girlfriend to a crazed wildcat demanding her money. Hookers have no feelings for their customers, they can't, if they do, they can't hack it in this business.Moody.
You hit it right on the spot. After five years of mongering, I really did not appreciated all the hassle of the wgs'/KTV gals. I rather go after the lonely trophy wives that gives me much less headache. Hey, I find picking up this category is quite easy. They want no shopping trip, just discretion and this year for my birthday, I got some very nice presents to boot. It is a win win situation with both of us getting what we want. As some of you guys that have met me, I definitely am no "Choy Yun Fat" or even a Jet Li, I'm just an average guy with a little bit of extra fat.
Now when I sometimes monger, I am just checking out whats out there. Everytime I encounter a "dead"fish that lies there or gives me "crap", I just tell her to get with the program or I will call the mommy for an immediate replacement.
Just my two rmb on this.
Big Swingin Dave
06-28-10, 00:54
jin lang ktv
the jin lang ktv is located inside the jin lang hotel inside the hui long ju village which is approximately 1/8th mile from the walter hotel. this is one of the older ktvs in town and for one reason or another, i have never been taken to nor have been requested to go to this ktv.
the hardware in this ktv is a bit outdated and definitely needs a bit of renovation. the interior has the same feel as that of the lion, huimei, pp, huihua, ban dao, and kang cheng with smoke smelling tainted rooms and tasteless neon lights and remote control sound system. amazingly, it has a good selection of english songs, one thing i really like about this place is that they have the new gold label tsingtao beer that actually taste fairly decent unlike most of the other 50 different kind s of tsingtao or the nasty tasting blue girl or harbing beers that are offered at most of the ktvs in town. the minimum room charge starts at 480 and up to 2,000 plus depending on the room size.
the jing lang ktv has been long on my list as a place to try as rumor has it, it does topless dancing and the girls are fun with great attitudes similar to our favorite cp party spot fuhao (plutocrat nightclub) ktv. tonight we had a group (10 people) of isg brothers and friends willing to be guinea pigs to test out this newly discovered gem and we were not disappointed. the quantity and quality of the girls were not up to par compared to that of fuhao but boy were they fun! the girls came in two categories, 2-5-8 or models 3-6-9. the 2-5-8 girls were split into two groups, the regular girls dressed in yellow nylon like dresses with no bra. this particular dress is much better than the braless uniforms as that of virgin, california red, or licheng. the reason is that the cut of the dress where the breasts are is skin tight so it is very easy to see the shape and size of the breast and the nipple. at the moment when i saw these girls are dressed in this type of dress, i knew that this will be a very fun evening … the second group were dressed in dancers outfit and they girls have better bodies/figures and these girls does about a half hour performance in the main lounge at 10:30 in the evening. the performance was lousy and not worth the time to watch and normally i wouldn’t waste my time watching the stupid shows the ktvs puts together but since it was our first time there, so were just curious to see what they had to offer. the 3-6-9 models were dressed in “ktv mommies-like” uniforms and the quality was bad, none of the 10 guys came even close of being interested in any of them so none were selected. we saw approximately 10 line-ups and 150 girls, it was a bit arduous but at the end everyone was pretty much satisfied with their selections.
7 of us had the intention to go to hui long ju (会龙居) which is next door to the hotel for dinner. hlj is famous for their roast chicken and for those of you that are planning to come and had been to cp and have not tried this great restaurant, it is highly recommended that you give it a try. so, after the selections were done, we left all the girls with 3 guys to watch over while we went out to dinner and in the middle of dinner i get a sms message from one of the guys “dude, where are you guys? we already raped all the girls “once” if you don’t come back soon, they will be useless and not interested in you anymore by the time you came back”. apparently, while we were enjoying our nice dinner, the guys had an orgy (just a lot of fondling) with all the girls in the rooms. the girls were not shy at all… good thing we came back in time or there may not have anything left to party with…. one of the guys told me the girls were comparing their breast size and fondling each other in the room while we were outside having dinner.
the evening went on with a lot of fun games and none of the girls refused to play and with so many people, it was hard for the entire group to play together but we had a blast all night long. the time went by super quick and next thing we know, it was time for the dancers to perform. after the sub-par performance, we returned to the room and the fun did not skip a beat and went immediately into dancing-disco frenzy with everyone shaking off their alcohol-filled bodies and sweating it off… the dancing then moved onto the couches and all the girls then performed a lap-dance like routine to each guy topless (this would have cost a lot of money in u.s. strip clubs) for about 15 minutes, this is particular fun when you have two girls so my advice is to make sure you select two girls each to party with at this place. after the lap-dancing was over and everyone getting a little breather, we played the “find your spouse” game blind-folded. the only other time i ever played this game was when i was in ca and it is a lot of fun! basically, the guy is blind-folded and because he should know the shape and size of his “spouse for the evening”’s breasts, he is supposed to be able to find her blind folded. so basically, you are allowed to touch all the girls’ breasts. the key to this game is to not make your selection until you have fondled all the girls… the rest of the evening was a blur and everyone’s feedback was a big thumbs up.
the evening ended with only half of the guys taking out their girls but i think everyone that want to give this place a try in the future should have in their minds that because of the activities that are allowed in this ktv is very similar to that of chang an ktvs, you should know that the quantity and quality of the girls are not at par to the other ktvs in town. i am glad the evening turn out to be so much fun and it appears that we finally found another fun place to party. even though fuhao remains our favorite hang-out in cp, it is nice to find a nice alternative!
bsd
Mit Fo Lfe
06-28-10, 04:10
Jin Lang KTVGood to hear there is a CA like ktv in cp. hope this place is better than the other one we went to near the train station. the girls there were fun and willing to get nekkid but the quality did suck.
Mit Fo Lfe
06-28-10, 04:13
There are the guangzhou food festival in Guangzhou in Aug also, great for st and gourment food around mid Aug for 2 weeks. Much better than the canton fair that is going down hill.
Fast Eddie 48Is this like a tasting event? where you pay an admission and get to taste all the vendor's food for a specified amount of time?
Mit Fo Lfe
06-28-10, 04:14
Willingness to "do anythingWhat's the pin yin for that?
I'll have to add that as well.
Eyebrow777
06-28-10, 09:59
SEAJ,
Just saw your pics of Bing Bing. Tthat has to be the finest ass I've seen on a Chinese girl ever (right up there with the best, anywhere).
Amazing
It was a great night (at least for me) and a treat to party with you! I am sorry to hear Sat. Didn't work out to well.
And now to the "field report".
I had the chance to visit CP again on Friday and enjoyed once again the fruits of Fu Hao.
I brought a friend with me that was an experienced KTV guy, but had never been to CP and was usually accompanied by friends to Korean KTV. He had never experienced a "flower street" arrangement before and was amazed.
As it turns out we met up with a couple of guys from the board I had not met before, one experienced monger I knew from Shanghai, and a few other guys that happened to be in town. The afternoon began with what has become a necessary part of my visits to CP, a great massage in a place recommended by BSD. The massage is not sexual, but has some of the most wonderful sensual overtones I have ever experienced in a massage.
BSD had arranged a huge room in the KTV and I guess we had about 8 or 9 guys and at least 15 girls. It seemed like everyone had chosen well at the flower street, I got one at the "preview" and then selected my second one from the main event. It was the best I have ever done as both girls were attentive from the opening bell. Having two(or more) cute girls vying for ones attentions is a life affirming event and these gals were doing everything they could to make my decision of whom to take out difficult. It seemed that all the girls were on their game that night and it was a really fun group of guys!
I decided to take my first choice back to the hotel, her willingness to "do anything" was the deciding factor. I wouldn't try "everything" but she did keep her word.
This gal was ready to go from the moment the hotel room door closed. She dropped to her knees and started a BBBJ almost before I could sit down on the edge of the bed. It was the preview of a few more surprises.
She welcomed and seemed to enjoy the advances of my tongue, and then it got REALLY interesting, she grabbed my head and pulled it tight as she came and then the flood gates opened! I have had one or two squirters before, but they warned me before hand. This girl either didn't know it was going to happen, couldn't figure out how to tell me, or was afraid I would stop before finishing her. I think it was the second reason. She soaked the bed spread! I mean like pouring a liter bottle of water on the bed! I don't think she expected it to happen, because as soon as she realized what she had done, she jumped up and cowered in the corner of the room and covered her head in shame. It took me a while to assure her it was ok, and that I was not angry. We went into the shower and she started kissing me and rubbing all over and I returned the favor, the next thing I know she comes again with a similar resulting stream. I have to admit I was amazed! I had never experienced anything like this before. We finished washing up, she dragged me into bed and into one of the most fun "wrestling" matches I have ever experienced! I made sure I finished before making her climax, as I didn't want to soak the carpet as she was bent over the desk.
I was spent, and we went to sleep or so I thought.
After about three hours of sleep, I thought I was having a really good dream, only to wake up and find her with "little sky" buried in her mouth and she was going for the the gold standard in BJ's. We finished with her riding me like a bronco and more than a little noise. I was glad my buddy was in the room next door!
By this time I was REALLY spent and went back to sleep. I woke up about 5 hours later with her curled up in my arms and her hands cupping my now "withered" manhood, or so I thought. I tried to plead that I was done, but she was having none of it! She worked her feminine magic and was able to restore some life in what I thought was a dead soldier. This time she would continue her very good oral skills until I finished in her mouth. Truth be told I am sure there wasn't much left, but it was pleasing to me. She seemed pleased with her efforts as well.
I indicated that it was time to leave and she reluctantly got dressed to leave. I paid her the customary amount for her time and then something happened I never expected. She handed me back 200 rmb. I was shocked to say the least. I shook my head no, and gave it back to her. She didn't seem to want to take it, but as much of an "asshole"as I can be at times, I couldn't accept her proposal, especially since I didn't know why.
If anyone is interested in finding this gal, BSD had her contact info. I will probably "reserve her" the next time I go to Fu Hao, she isn't the prettiest girl, but still easy on the eyes and what a treat behind the doors, and in the KTV room!
I had made a reservation to see the girl I didn't bring home at noon, but fortunately for me she no-showed. I am not sure I could have found my male member at that time)
It was a good night, even though the girl my friend had in the KTV room got so drunk we had to carry her out of the KTV room. He was bummed out, because he liked her and was looking forward to some action with her. In the end he did hook up with another girl from our party that didn't get chosen and from what he said she was a good performer as well. IMHO, she was the "hottest" of any girl we had in the room. I will make a point to find her next time as well.
What I have found is that a good KTV party is the mixture of many things, guys willing to make some new friends and interacting and mommies that encourage the girls to put some effort into having fun and making a good atmosphere.
BSD really seems to know how to fit the location with the type of group he has assembled for the night. It really helps to have someone who knows the town, at least for me it does.Wow. I just read this report as I have not been able to be online for about a day since it was my last day in CP and I had been very busy with parting activities. So when I read this report a few words came to mind as a natural reaction, like WOW, LOL, WTF, Really, Interesting, etc. Etc. Etc. And now here is the reason why. We went back to Fuhao last night and guess what; I ended up picking the same girl you mentioned above. As you may remember I was dancing with all the girls and she was really fun the night you were there. BTW, her name is Ching Ching, or at least what it sounds like it. BSD has her contact info. Anyway, I had not seen your report as I mentioned I was pretty busy taking care of the last few drops I had left over my 10 days stay in CP. So again, we had a great time at Fuhao KTV and I wasn't really sure if I wanted to take her back to the hotel as by then I had nothing left in me due to another night of partying with the guys and Will Robin singing all the Linkin Park songs and me doing the head banging. But also I did not want to disappoint her especially there was another drama going on that night at the KTV. Actually there were a couple of dramas going on that night at the KTV but nothing important to mention it here. However; kudos to BSD for taking control of the situation and getting issues resolved.
Long story short, I took this girl to dinner at the same restaurant as the other night and after getting my daily beating and torture from the waitress we went back to my room. By the time we got to the room it was after 2:00 AM. She did not jump on me as she did to you but she loves the tongue action and there was plenty of it and to the point where I said OK. That was enough and let's get shower. After showers she went on to a very long BBBJ that was great and then I put on the hat and went to work but it seemed like I had nothing left in me. We went on and on to the point where I think we both got tired and I was going to lose my erection so I took the condom off and she thought I was going BBFS and sort of freaked out and starting saying NO. I said relax as I never do BBFS with WGs and just give me a hand job and she was relieved. After a long hand job I got some sensation and finally closed the deal. I would have really liked her to stay long time but it was already 4:30 AM and I was thinking of catching a train to Hong Kong around 11:00 so needed to get some sleeps so I sent her back. I think she understood what I was saying. As for the compensation I asked her how much should I pay her and she said 500. So I paid her the dues, some tip, and taxi money and she left really happy. She is just a fun girl.
I do think your ability to speak Chinese must have enhanced your experience with her. She likes to talk a lot and it was definitely frustrating at times for both of us not to understand each other. Luckily and/or sadly I did not experience the squirting you described above and in sort of way I am glad I did not as I did not want to go through another hassle as I was so tired.
jin lang ktv
the jin lang ktv is located inside the jin lang hotel inside the hui long ju village which is approximately 1/8th mile from the walter hotel. this is one of the older ktvs in town and for one reason or another, i have never been taken to nor have been requested to go to this ktv.
the hardware in this ktv is a bit outdated and definitely needs a bit of renovation. the interior has the same feel as that of the lion, huimei, pp, huihua, ban dao, and kang cheng with smoke smelling tainted rooms and tasteless neon lights and remote control sound system. amazingly, it has a good selection of english songs, one thing i really like about this place is that they have the new gold label tsingtao beer that actually taste fairly decent unlike most of the other 50 different kind s of tsingtao or the nasty tasting blue girl or harbing beers that are offered at most of the ktvs in town. the minimum room charge starts at 480 and up to 2, 000 plus depending on the room size.
the jing lang ktv has been long on my list as a place to try as rumor has it, it does topless dancing and the girls are fun with great attitudes similar to our favorite cp party spot fuhao (plutocrat nightclub) ktv. tonight we had a group (10 people) of isg brothers and friends willing to be guinea pigs to test out this newly discovered gem and we were not disappointed. the quantity and quality of the girls were not up to par compared to that of fuhao but boy were they fun! the girls came in two categories, 2-5-8 or models 3-6-9. the 2-5-8 girls were split into two groups, the regular girls dressed in yellow nylon like dresses with no bra. this particular dress is much better than the braless uniforms as that of virgin, california red, or licheng. the reason is that the cut of the dress where the breasts are is skin tight so it is very easy to see the shape and size of the breast and the nipple. at the moment when i saw these girls are dressed in this type of dress, i knew that this will be a very fun evening the second group were dressed in dancers outfit and they girls have better bodies/figures and these girls does about a half hour performance in the main lounge at 10: 30 in the evening. the performance was lousy and not worth the time to watch and normally i wouldn't waste my time watching the stupid shows the ktvs puts together but since it was our first time there, so were just curious to see what they had to offer. the 3-6-9 models were dressed in "ktv mommies-like" uniforms and the quality was bad, none of the 10 guys came even close of being interested in any of them so none were selected. we saw approximately 10 line-ups and 150 girls, it was a bit arduous but at the end everyone was pretty much satisfied with their selections.
7 of us had the intention to go to hui long ju (?) which is next door to the hotel for dinner. hlj is famous for their roast chicken and for those of you that are planning to come and had been to cp and have not tried this great restaurant, it is highly recommended that you give it a try. so, after the selections were done, we left all the girls with 3 guys to watch over while we went out to dinner and in the middle of dinner i get a sms message from one of the guys "dude, where are you guys? we already raped all the girls "once" if you don't come back soon, they will be useless and not interested in you anymore by the time you came back". apparently, while we were enjoying our nice dinner, the guys had an orgy (just a lot of fondling) with all the girls in the rooms. the girls were not shy at all good thing we came back in time or there may not have anything left to party with. one of the guys told me the girls were comparing their breast size and fondling each other in the room while we were outside having dinner.
the evening went on with a lot of fun games and none of the girls refused to play and with so many people, it was hard for the entire group to play together but we had a blast all night long. the time went by super quick and next thing we know, it was time for the dancers to perform. after the sub-par performance, we returned to the room and the fun did not skip a beat and went immediately into dancing-disco frenzy with everyone shaking off their alcohol-filled bodies and sweating it off the dancing then moved onto the couches and all the girls then performed a lap-dance like routine to each guy topless (this would have cost a lot of money in usa strip clubs) for about 15 minutes, this is particular fun when you have two girls so my advice is to make sure you select two girls each to party with at this place. after the lap-dancing was over and everyone getting a little breather, we played the "find your spouse" game blind-folded. the only other time i ever played this game was when i was in ca and it is a lot of fun! basically, the guy is blind-folded and because he should know the shape and size of his "spouse for the evening"'s breasts, he is supposed to be able to find her blind folded. so basically, you are allowed to touch all the girls' breasts. the key to this game is to not make your selection until you have fondled all the girls the rest of the evening was a blur and everyone's feedback was a big thumbs up.
the evening ended with only half of the guys taking out their girls but i think everyone that want to give this place a try in the future should have in their minds that because of the activities that are allowed in this ktv is very similar to that of chang an ktvs, you should know that the quantity and quality of the girls are not at par to the other ktvs in town. i am glad the evening turn out to be so much fun and it appears that we finally found another fun place to party. even though fuhao remains our favorite hang-out in cp, it is nice to find a nice alternative!
bsdsorry bsd as i was the only one that night who left early as i mentioned to you that i got some allergic reaction to the facial i had it done earlier that day. i am really glad that you took us to that restaurant and even though you thought you had taken me there before i had not been to that restaurant before. i really liked the chicken and i think next time i am just going to do the polish thing and order 1 1/2 chicken. since the chicken tastes so much better than the states and the size is 1/4 of the us chicken i think 1 1/2 chicken is not as bad as it sounds.
as i have thanked you many times in person i just wanted to thank you one more time as i had an excellent visit to cp and it would not have been the same without your help or you organizing different events.
say hi to si si and the waitress for me next time you see them.
It was a great night (at least for me) and a treat to party with you! I am sorry to hear Sat. Didn't work out to well.
And now to the "field report".
I had the chance to visit CP again on Friday and enjoyed once again the fruits of Fu Hao.
I brought a friend with me that was an experienced KTV guy, but had never been to CP and was usually accompanied by friends to Korean KTV. He had never experienced a "flower street" arrangement before and was amazed.
As it turns out we met up with a couple of guys from the board I had not met before, one experienced monger I knew from Shanghai, and a few other guys that happened to be in town. The afternoon began with what has become a necessary part of my visits to CP, a great massage in a place recommended by BSD. The massage is not sexual, but has some of the most wonderful sensual overtones I have ever experienced in a massage.
BSD had arranged a huge room in the KTV and I guess we had about 8 or 9 guys and at least 15 girls. It seemed like everyone had chosen well at the flower street, I got one at the "preview" and then selected my second one from the main event. It was the best I have ever done as both girls were attentive from the opening bell. Having two(or more) cute girls vying for ones attentions is a life affirming event and these gals were doing everything they could to make my decision of whom to take out difficult. It seemed that all the girls were on their game that night and it was a really fun group of guys!
I decided to take my first choice back to the hotel, her willingness to "do anything" was the deciding factor. I wouldn't try "everything" but she did keep her word.
This gal was ready to go from the moment the hotel room door closed. She dropped to her knees and started a BBBJ almost before I could sit down on the edge of the bed. It was the preview of a few more surprises.
She welcomed and seemed to enjoy the advances of my tongue, and then it got REALLY interesting, she grabbed my head and pulled it tight as she came and then the flood gates opened! I have had one or two squirters before, but they warned me before hand. This girl either didn't know it was going to happen, couldn't figure out how to tell me, or was afraid I would stop before finishing her. I think it was the second reason. She soaked the bed spread! I mean like pouring a liter bottle of water on the bed! I don't think she expected it to happen, because as soon as she realized what she had done, she jumped up and cowered in the corner of the room and covered her head in shame. It took me a while to assure her it was ok, and that I was not angry. We went into the shower and she started kissing me and rubbing all over and I returned the favor, the next thing I know she comes again with a similar resulting stream. I have to admit I was amazed! I had never experienced anything like this before. We finished washing up, she dragged me into bed and into one of the most fun "wrestling" matches I have ever experienced! I made sure I finished before making her climax, as I didn't want to soak the carpet as she was bent over the desk.
I was spent, and we went to sleep or so I thought.
After about three hours of sleep, I thought I was having a really good dream, only to wake up and find her with "little sky" buried in her mouth and she was going for the the gold standard in BJ's. We finished with her riding me like a bronco and more than a little noise. I was glad my buddy was in the room next door!
By this time I was REALLY spent and went back to sleep. I woke up about 5 hours later with her curled up in my arms and her hands cupping my now "withered" manhood, or so I thought. I tried to plead that I was done, but she was having none of it! She worked her feminine magic and was able to restore some life in what I thought was a dead soldier. This time she would continue her very good oral skills until I finished in her mouth. Truth be told I am sure there wasn't much left, but it was pleasing to me. She seemed pleased with her efforts as well.
I indicated that it was time to leave and she reluctantly got dressed to leave. I paid her the customary amount for her time and then something happened I never expected. She handed me back 200 rmb. I was shocked to say the least. I shook my head no, and gave it back to her. She didn't seem to want to take it, but as much of an "asshole"as I can be at times, I couldn't accept her proposal, especially since I didn't know why.
If anyone is interested in finding this gal, BSD had her contact info. I will probably "reserve her" the next time I go to Fu Hao, she isn't the prettiest girl, but still easy on the eyes and what a treat behind the doors, and in the KTV room!
I had made a reservation to see the girl I didn't bring home at noon, but fortunately for me she no-showed. I am not sure I could have found my male member at that time)
It was a good night, even though the girl my friend had in the KTV room got so drunk we had to carry her out of the KTV room. He was bummed out, because he liked her and was looking forward to some action with her. In the end he did hook up with another girl from our party that didn't get chosen and from what he said she was a good performer as well. IMHO, she was the "hottest" of any girl we had in the room. I will make a point to find her next time as well.
What I have found is that a good KTV party is the mixture of many things, guys willing to make some new friends and interacting and mommies that encourage the girls to put some effort into having fun and making a good atmosphere.
BSD really seems to know how to fit the location with the type of group he has assembled for the night. It really helps to have someone who knows the town, at least for me it does.And I selected the other girl you mentioned that your friend took back as her girl was drunk. Her name is Si Si and I had already taken her back to my room once before and she is the one who got the infamous teddy bear and stayed with me till 2:00 PM. She is a great performer and earns her money well. Another guy from our group selected Si Si last night as well but he opted to go with a drama queen instead of Si Si. He does not know what he missed.
What's the pin yin for that?
I'll have to add that as well.
she ma dou zou = do anything
or hey, teach ya a another one:
stick out your finger (or two fingers) and say "wo yao fang jin ni pi gu" say this on the flower street...
Thumbs up, MIT FO LFE!
ps. actually, she ma dou zou is really ambiguous. I mean, if the girl agrees, more power to you and i guess you'll find out how far she's willing to go (or how far she's willing to lie). It's like girls saying, "Promise you'll say yes" before asking the question.
You'll perhaps do better with "wo gei ni hen duo xiao fei" (I'll give you a lot (large amount) of tip). But you don't wanna say that cause it's ambiguous and would end up getting the speaker into unnecessary trouble.
she ma dou zou = do anything
shen2mede zuo4
No, you can also go shrimp fishing. You use a small fishingrod to catch small shrimp in a tub. An exciting sport introduced from Taiwan.
Bowling of course and we should create a new game called White Tiger. Where we all go to the night market and try to pick the closest to a white tiger take them back to hotel and do a lineup comparison. we could tip them for this....
Another great night of party at Fuhao last night. Got a couple of great gilrs to accompany me last night, one model and one regular girl, and brought one back who had a great personality and really enjoyed her stay for the whole night. Actually she left after 2:00 PM and wanted to stay for another night. She wanted 300 RMB as a tip which I found a bit of unusual. She did not get the 300 RMB tip but she left happy with whatever she got and a 200 RMB teddy bear.
Which one did you bring back? And which model did you pick? I have sat two and one was gorgeous but a total pro (too much so) the other was a party girl but I didn't really click with her. She was fun but a bit annoying.
To set the record straight, I was in the W.C. and my DJ was outside getting some hot tea when the vendor entered the room and DphM bought 2 teddy bears for 200RMB each. I gave him the look and he just waved me off. Well, for being nice to the girls, he got the girl to stay late, that doesn't happen all the time but it did for him so good for him.
Also, just for everyone to know, tipping the service boy inside the KTV is NOT necessary especially all he did was to give you a towel to wipe your sweat. Tipping is ok only if you give it to the right person, i.e. the DJ that worked all night and didn't even get an extra tip...just my POV.
BSD
Tipping the service boy!!! GEESH.!
They should tip --BSD-- for saving them (usually) all that money and making sure they pick the girl that will be the most fun!... If these guys were alone I think they'd have had a huge bill complete with a safari of stuffed animals, flowers, cigarettes....
True DJ could have extra tip (50), service boy never tip them (otherwise you will have every service boy coming to look for a tip).
BTW you can buy those stuffed animals for 30-35rmb on the open street market. that i consider exceptable, but inside the KTV geesh. Also it is true the girls do keep some, but after you see their small room with 5-6 of these there is no room.
direct quote 'why doesn't he just give me more money' is what my good WG friend told me about stuffed animals.
Not - in her words 'useless' gifts.... to them 200 rmb is ALOT of cash, a nice tip and believe me they would rather that. they already get the 'glory' of being chosen over the other girl. so many suckers have bought the stuffed animals before that there is little joy in it for them.... new girls will like it the first time or second time but after that they just see it as wasted money and if you don't tip them later it will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) them off.....
You can friends with hookers and you can have sex with hookers, but you really can't do both. Once money changes hands, it changes the whole dynamic of the relationship. You go from friend to customer, and once she acknowledges the fact you're a customer, she'll do what all hookers do, maximize revenue.
Sometimes it can happen. I know one girl for two years and recently she was angry at me cause I told her that if she wanted to see me I would not give her money (i had previously loaned her some). She became very mad at me cause she said I only think she wants my money and not friendship. so yes it can happen but that is a long time friend.
short time story - xiaojie becomes asst mommie cause supporter (foreign boyfriend) broke up with her. she asks to comes over to screw me - and gets rag in middle of event. still asks for fee.... all about the money.
another money story... model at fuhao, great session, overnight, does not blow, but next day i forgot she stripped at fuhao... paid her and she said 50 more for stripping!! all about the money..
What's that - 8? 10% That you still gotta share with your principals et al?
Like I said previously, you gotta start charging a hosting fee - the DJ's makes more money than you as it is!!
And not everybody is gonna be a BSD generous bloke like DHP - right?
SEAJ
I agree. I think BSD provides more entertainment than the DJ, hell he brings Jenga, cards, all the fun games that break the monotony of the KTV singing and dice...
He should include an entertainment fee just like some of the places charge for those silly dancing/singing shows. I know I always get pissed when dave is running the games at the other table and I'm trying to explain big fish little fish in mandarin to the new xiaojie. many times they know dave and already remember all the fun games we play.
His free service is the scouting reports in his head, don't pick her she is boring, her pussy smells i hear, that one knows how to blow, that one is crazy in the room, she is a cock grabber... official KTV xiaojie scout
Hahaha, What Mandarin?
I'm so lucky I got good friends like you, BSD, SEAJ, and Bruce Tea to help me out.
I still laugh my ass off at that girl talking to you in Mandarin and you pointing to me only to see her utter look of confusion - i think it was a good 2-3 minutes before she realized you weren't understanding...
Not in August, but in Sept, there's a jewelry fair in Shenzhen.
Info here:
http://www.bvents.com/event/386052-shenzhen-international-jewellery-fair
As a side note, according to the article stub, 70% of the jewelry made in China is made in Shenzhen.
Dan - I can easily find and setup a meeting for you at a jewelry supplier in Shenzhen just for cover. Take one day you can take pictures for evidence you were there and some business cards. Alot of them also have offices in Luohu and such and you could just go there (rather than factory) and see 2-4 in a day for information catalogs and an official meeting.
Agreed. I know I've more than once burdened Jetsetter and BS Dave to help me translate and know how annoying it can be. Guess it's time to bust out my Pimselur cds.
I have left Dave with a translator which I told him he should lease out... it does a decent job, but any translator is going to be slow... but at least it is dedicated device, uses AAA batteries...
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