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Criss Thor
01-22-11, 21:40
Temujin87, great report!
In fact, during my last visit to CP I tried many things, but most exciting was just sauna. I visited Virgin sauna, but 32/36 steps is new for me. I don't speak Chinese, so communication was like nothing. This March I with my friends come to CP again, is it possible to make us appointment to some very good sauna, even if we don't speak Chinese?
slight correction on the clipper. there are 2 rooms on each floor with a huge round bath-tub / jacuzzi as center piece of the rooms.
and the miraton rooms do have nice separate bath-tubs. only problem with the miraton bathrooms is that when you use the shower cabinet, the whole bathroom floods and to a large extent, the same thing happens if you're not careful using the bath-tub. i think this is also a problem at the hui hua.
some of rooms of the older hotels i think has bath tubs. i know that the lucky did (is it still closed down?) and believe also the hui mei, the walter and the red lion. although not sure as it's been ages since i last went to the rooms there.
meiguoguizi. why not just ask before you reserve a room?
seaji have never had luck getting the tub / jacuzzi room at the clipper. i have tried several times, but because i arrive late in the day (or try to make the reservation in the morning before arriving in cp) , when i arrive i never got the tub / jacuzzi room. i suggest if you want it, try to rsvp as soon as you can or you will show up and not get it. or, it might be if you work with bsdave on here, he can help to make arrangements to help you be sure you get the room?
in my last visit, my girl and i helped a singapore man and his cp-girl (i let his girl use the toilet in my room because she had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) really bad) , and he had one of the tub / jacuzzi rooms on another floor, so the 4 of us went to see his jacuzzi room and it is pretty nice. i think he said he pays usually about 500 rmb / night for it. later, he was trying to get some group sex and swapping to happen in the same room, but my girl and i (joe, it was lisa who was with me!) did not join them (tired already from our 3 boinks between 11pm. 1am, and needing some dear sleep.
dar425.
ps . i will be in the shenzhen, cp, zhuhai area last 2 weeks of february. i might also spend a little time exploring some other areas / townships, so if anyone wants to join, let me know.
I will be in the Shenzhen, CP, Zhuhai area last 2 weeks of February. I might also spend a little time exploring some other areas / townships, so if anyone wants to join, let me know.Dar425.
I will be having the pleasure to stay in China / Shenzhen in February too but will be unlucky to be all by myself.
If you don't mind my company maybe a few of us (hoping for more of the brothers here on the forum) could get together and trade "war stories" over a drink or 2?
Because I don't like paying for a subscription I can't use the PM system. Here's my E-mail, send me one and I can send you one with a little info about myself.
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Fast Eddie 48
01-24-11, 22:33
I have never had luck getting the Tub / Jacuzzi room at the Clipper. I have tried several times, but because I arrive late in the day (or try to make the reservation in the morning before arriving in CP) , when I arrive I never got the Tub / Jacuzzi room. I suggest if you want it, try to RSVP as soon as you can or you will show up and not get it. Or, it might be if you work with BSDave on here, he can help to make arrangements to help you be sure you get the room?To Dar 425.
That is their DLX suite I book this room 2 yr ago during the Canton Fair is 598 rmb plus 10% service charge a night on company expense, during the weekways they do have this room avalible but on weekend is better to book ahead.
Fast Eddie 48
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Dar425.
Dar425.
I will be having the pleasure to stay in China / Shenzhen in February too but will be unlucky to be all by myself.
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last visit i decided to cut down on my ktving and go to the new bar across from california red and it is fun as hell.
i will upload photos of cards tomorrow. sorry this is long, but it is a fun place and i want you all to know of other.
cp options.
here is my scoping out. the bar scene consists of alot of off work ktv girls, various guys and some 'visitors' with girls. there.
are 'managers' to book tables but they also drink with you (if you want). i met three different managers one cute girl the others.
were guys. actually the guys make a pretty good wingman if you are there alone or bringing a ktv girl or other girl with you.
there are alot of 'hair salon' looking guys with the big crazy hair and wacky chinese outfits, but they are mostly harmless i think.
and trying to scheme on the ktv girls. i imagine most ktv girls are pretty 'loose' compared to the girl from the department store.
drinks!
red wine varied from 210-450 / bottle
sprite was 25 / can.
so the red wine / sprite mix (2 cans) was 260. 500.
there were 6 types of wine on the menu. 5 were australian and 1 argentinian (450).
all were decent and none (i tried 3) gave me hangover.
red wine and sprite is mixed in a nice glass decanter, a bit of class rather than the plastic containers of ktvs.
vodka.
skye and stoli both available. 450 / botlle.
add red bull. 4 cans at 50 / can
650. i got [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk on this with 5 other people drinking.
beer 30-40 / bottle or can.
tsingdao, budweiser, chilli (carlsberg).
whiskey and apple juice (seems popular)
400+100? = 500 solmewhere in that range.
if you have a mixed drink it will be mixed in a large tall cylinder with blinking lights and a tap on the bottom,
wacky but the standard bar thing you see in china. note the ice in this place is safe to eat and drink with.
no problems with stomach issues after having the ice.
the have dice, give you free eats (small snacks like spicy lotus root, celery with wasabi / soy, french fries etc for free).
their snacks are very very good, the celery has a small test tube with the wasabi and soy inside (easy for dunking) much.
better than the small shallow bowl. the lotus is super spicy, and the french fries very edible. i think we had chicken feet.
and some other snack another night that was also good.
minimum and booking i don't think there is minimum to book a table there, the 'manager' will meet you at the door. i spend 300 and 1000 on different.
occasions but it was alot of fun and it depends on how many you are drinking with. they don't seem to care what you spend, the managers.
will help you drink it if you like, or you can probably tell them to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off.
small booths seat about 10 on outer walls, they have nice seating and table and a 'secure' area for your stuff. i would keep your cell.
phone in your pocket. it is not a huge place, but set up well. the have a center dj booth / stage for singers and anyone brave enough.
or drunk enough to dance up there. there is also a 'shower room' in the dj area where on saturday they have shows, specifically with.
a very hot dancer in bra and thong getting milk / cream poured on her then showering, she was a 10 in dancer hotness with all the curves.
and face for the full hotness.
there are also two side stages for dancing (1meter x 1 meter) with your girl or watching her dance.
dice are supplied as well for other gaming.
musicit is very loud (it is a disco / bar) but the djs play alot of western music and do a good job of mixing beat and speed. mostly newer.
club music and popular american hiphop. there is some chinese 'pop' music mixed in and occasionally they mix in a slow song which
i think most people there hate judging by the response to the slow song (no one dancing) and the djs looking at the crowd and quickly.
nixing the songs.
peopleon sunday / mon / tuesday alot of ktv girls that didn't work go there to have some fun the way they like it. later at night on w / th / fri / sat you.
see some people clearly coming from ktv's as i have seen some older guys with younger girls and the girl clearly wanted to dance but the guy.
was a wallflower. at least make the effort. or tell her to go dance.
could you pick up a girl there? i sure think so, there are alot of girls there with a group of 3-5 girls and guys the same way. some mixed groups
that appear to be just friends. my friend, lets call him rainout. well he actually had a girl come to him and give him a drink and damn she was.
cute. so clearly there are girls there to pickup. i had a dancer drinking with me one night and she was cute. they are not available for takeout.
like ktv girls, but i imagine they might want a sitting fee (she only stayed 15 min then i had friend come over).
overall,
great alternative to ktv, if you like to dance, you still get to play dice and stupid games, get drunk as hell (faster than ktv too) ,
and you don't have to arrive at 6pm. you could go to ktv pick a girl and take her out then go to bar after your first punt rather than.
waiting until 10-11pm+ ktv closing. if you are repeating a girl, perfect place, she'll have a blast, and you don't have to be tempted by the.
sea of girls at the ktv. afterall 1/2 the fun of the ktv is picking the girl, so if you are repeating, try out this place!
Member #4144
01-25-11, 16:45
. And you don't have to arrive at 6pm. You could go to KTV pick a girl and take her out then go to bar after your first punt rather than.
Waiting until 10-11pm+ KTV closing. If you are repeating a girl, perfect place, she'll have a blast, and you don't have to be tempted by the.
Sea of girls at the KTV. Afterall 1/2 the fun of the KTV is picking the girl, so if you are repeating, try out this place! Wonderful report Freepacks, I can never come down to CP because I have work in Guangzhou and dinner dates etc, but this will certainly change my mind now. I can finish with all my social and work things in Guangzhou and take the last train to CP and still have a lot of fun, that sounds like a perfect solution to Guangzhou blues.
Which 4-5 star hotel is this area close to?
Fillmore
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I can swap stories, but I also want to live new ones. Dar425.
You've right and I'm taking your advice and making that subscription.
And I agree making new stories is always enjoyable.
Dbhappiness
01-26-11, 03:20
Can anyone give me detailed info? I'm taking the train to Dongguan. I want to get of the train and find a place close by. Walking Distance. No KTV's. I may stay the night. So a hotel and what's the best time to arrive?
Thanks.
DB
Wonderful report Freepacks, I can never come down to CP because I have work in Guangzhou and dinner dates etc, but this will certainly change my mind now. I can finish with all my social and work things in Guangzhou and take the last train to CP and still have a lot of fun, that sounds like a perfect solution to Guangzhou blues.
Which 4-5 star hotel is this area close to?
FillmoreYou can stay at the Clipper (solid hotel, clean, no English speaking staff, and breakfast included for only 1)
Manhattan Hotel (never stayed)
Mayflower Hotel.
Swan Lake (newly refurbished)
Penninsula (close by)
All are good options, I like Clipper the best. None have a good sauna though in case you go for.
Alternative plan. You can go to Meibao down the street though
Member #4144
01-27-11, 04:53
You can stay at the Clipper (solid hotel, clean, no English speaking staff, and breakfast included for only 1)
Manhattan Hotel (never stayed)
Mayflower Hotel.
Swan Lake (newly refurbished)
Penninsula (close by)
All are good options, I like Clipper the best. None have a good sauna though in case you go for.
Alternative plan. You can go to Meibao down the street thoughThanks. I have found it on google map now and seems like Manhattan is the closest, and definitely walking. I have been to CP only once and stayed at Clipper and did like that hotel, so might go back to Clipper then.
F.
SE Asia Joe
01-27-11, 17:56
Jeez, Cain't hardly believe it.
Went to the Swan Lake Road area and went from one BBS to another just sorting through all what's left of the crop. Must say that its pretty crappy with just about most of them only with 5 or 6 gals. Then Dau2 mommie convinced me to go to her new shop and I figured. Why not. And of course there, at the 6th place I went to, saw a neat little package and gave Dau2's new partner my C note.
Happy with my choice, I proceeded to walk to the new Malayan cafe in front of the Legend to grab something to eat. On the way though, I ran across Baby and A Chiu and they were all cheerful and asks me to please just go on in to their shop to just look at their goods while they keep my gal company. Thought nothing of it and did just that. But when I came out, A Chiu told me that the gal I was with was actually HIS gal and that I need to pay him!
WTF I said and he told me sorry but that's Hong Kwai (way of the trade) and that I should go back to the original mommie and get my money back. Now I've known A Chiu for over 3, 4 years and he's never been as serious as he'd been tonight. And so I just told him. YOU straighten it out while I go eat.
I don't know what happened but the gal I was with never showed up and instead Dau2 came along all apologetic and told me that her new partner just don't know what she's doing, for me to come and get another gal instead blah blah. But when I went back to the shop, there was nothing I liked, so she gave me an actual written IOU (True! LOL) and for me to come back anytime! (BTW. Dau2 could NOT get a hold of her partner / was trying frantically to get a hold of her)
Soon as I went out of her BBS, I had just about all the mommies in that area come to me and offer me their goods. Somehow, in the 45 or so minutes that this all happened, seems like that the whole street knew what had happened. Amazing!
Anyway I went to a few other BBS's and chose one. And would you believe it. Got a DISCOUNT without askingfor it! Yup. 4 Mui told me that I should just pay her RMB 80 I / o 100 and that she just want me NOT to get too pissed off (actually I wasn't pissed at all. I was more amused than anything else!).
So, you'd think that after all this drama that I would have a happy ending for you right? WRONG! The gal I came back with had. The PONG! Another stinky pussy! Yuck.
So that's why I'm here writing it all out. I should have just stayed in Hong Kong!
SEAJ
Mit Fo Lfe
01-27-11, 19:11
Thanks. I have found it on google map now and seems like Manhattan is the closest, and definitely walking. I have been to CP only once and stayed at Clipper and did like that hotel, so might go back to Clipper then.
F. Clipper and the manhattan are literally no more than 2 blocks away from one another. I've stayed at the clipper several times and have to complaints about the hotel. Have not seen nor stayed at the manhattan though.
SEAJOE,
Nobody in all of the BBS want to offend you. You are like VIP on the streets, of course words spreads quickly. You are their major "client" or "rice bowl" whatever you want to call it. I find Ah Chiu to be quite funny of a guy. The only guy in the BBS game, except for that annoying gay tall looking guy at Hui Mei.
But Ah Chui is usually a pretty upfront and honest guy. You ask him if she has good serve or not, he'll be honest and tell you if she's good or not. Which is pretty good since most of the BBS mommies lie through their teeth about the girl's performance so that you will pick their girl.
But there's nothing I hate more than the smell of a stinky poo vagina. I swear if I can only invent two things:
1. A nipple cream that lightens the nipple color to pink.
2. A vaginal odor neutralizer or eliminator.
I think I would be rich!
But sorry to hear about the stinky poo Joe. I guess it's part of the game as you like to say. You have to do so many bad ones inbetween to find a true gem. Not a good ending to this year as we embark on a new year soon, but hope next year will bring better luck and crop your way.
AsnDragon.
Jeez, Cain't hardly believe it.
Went to the Swan Lake Road area and went from one BBS to another just sorting through all what's left of the crop. Must say that its pretty crappy with just about most of them only with 5 or 6 gals. Then Dau2 mommie convinced me to go to her new shop and I figured. Why not. And of course there, at the 6th place I went to, saw a neat little package and gave Dau2's new partner my C note.
Happy with my choice, I proceeded to walk to the new Malayan cafe in front of the Legend to grab something to eat. On the way though, I ran across Baby and A Chiu and they were all cheerful and asks me to please just go on in to their shop to just look at their goods while they keep my gal company. Thought nothing of it and did just that. But when I came out, A Chiu told me that the gal I was with was actually HIS gal and that I need to pay him!
WTF I said and he told me sorry but that's Hong Kwai (way of the trade) and that I should go back to the original mommie and get my money back. Now I've known A Chiu for over 3, 4 years and he's never been as serious as he'd been tonight. And so I just told him. YOU straighten it out while I go eat.
I don't know what happened but the gal I was with never showed up and instead Dau2 came along all apologetic and told me that her new partner just don't know what she's doing, for me to come and get another gal instead blah blah. But when I went back to the shop, there was nothing I liked, so she gave me an actual written IOU (True! LOL) and for me to come back anytime! (BTW. Dau2 could NOT get a hold of her partner / was trying frantically to get a hold of her)
Soon as I went out of her BBS, I had just about all the mommies in that area come to me and offer me their goods. Somehow, in the 45 or so minutes that this all happened, seems like that the whole street knew what had happened. Amazing!
Anyway I went to a few other BBS's and chose one. And would you believe it. Got a DISCOUNT without askingfor it! Yup. 4 Mui told me that I should just pay her RMB 80 I / o 100 and that she just want me NOT to get too pissed off (actually I wasn't pissed at all. I was more amused than anything else!).
So, you'd think that after all this drama that I would have a happy ending for you right? WRONG! The gal I came back with had. The PONG! Another stinky pussy! Yuck.
So that's why I'm here writing it all out. I should have just stayed in Hong Kong!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
01-28-11, 10:30
SEAJOE,
Nobody in all of the BBS want to offend you. You are like VIP on the streets, of course words spreads quickly. You are their major "client" or "rice bowl" whatever you want to call it. I find Ah Chiu to be quite funny of a guy. The only guy in the BBS game, except for that annoying gay tall looking guy at Hui Mei.
But Ah Chui is usually a pretty upfront and honest guy. You ask him if she has good serve or not, he'll be honest and tell you if she's good or not. Which is pretty good since most of the BBS mommies lie through their teeth about the girl's performance so that you will pick their girl.
But there's nothing I hate more than the smell of a stinky poo vagina. I swear if I can only invent two things:
1. A nipple cream that lightens the nipple color to pink.
2. A vaginal odor neutralizer or eliminator.
I think I would be rich!
But sorry to hear about the stinky poo Joe. I guess it's part of the game as you like to say. You have to do so many bad ones inbetween to find a true gem. Not a good ending to this year as we embark on a new year soon, but hope next year will bring better luck and crop your way.
AsnDragon. Oh come on. I'm just a plain ole joe as far as these mommies / daddies are concerned. ALL clients are important to them!
OTH, I was back at SWL today and A Chiu gave me a half-assed apology of sort. That whatever the Hong Kwai was, he should have just gone ahead and settled it with the other mommy himself and NOT have to have the customer involved.
Anyway, went to another BBS today and got myself a REAL looker with a dynamite body. NOT a stinky poo at all, and in fact quite close to being a White Tiger. Plus, best of all, from Maoming / a Cantonese speaker.
I thought I had it all fixed up, but, my recent run of bad luck with gals hadn't run out. And she must have been one of the most contrary gals I've had in a long long time. No this, no that, and would only give me a real lame CBJ! Imagine that - A BBS gal who would NOT give a BBBJ! And to cap it all off. No pictures!
Towards the end though, it was getting a bit better, and when I asked her why she had been so contrary the Beatch told me: "Hey, I wanted you to remember me!" Chutzpah the gal has! In spades!
And oh BTW, talking about the Clipper - Don't know what happened, but each pane of their front entrance glass wall today has a hole on it that looks as if someone threw a rock through them plus their 2 side doors are in smithereens. Wonder what happened?
SEAJ
Was a wallflower. At least make the effort. Or tell her to go dance.
Could you pick up a girl there? I sure think so, there are alot of girls there with a group of 3-5 girls and guys the same way.
That appear to be just friends. My friend, lets call him Rainout. Well he actually had a girl come to him and give him a drink and damn she was Cute. So clearly there are girls there to pickup.
Sea of girls at the KTV. Afterall 1/2 the fun of the KTV is picking the girl, so if you are repeating, try out this place!
The Swan Lake area has some good clubs to party at. 18 seems to be the place to be. There are private rooms for parties, sofas to drink with friends, or stands so people can drink and dance. Very fun place. Making eye contact with gals is easy. Make contact, smile, and do a little shake with your body. That'll get the girl's attention and yeah, since many of the girls are WGs, guys can motion the gal over and start a short chat. But short cause most likely she's taken for the evening so a quick Hi and what's your number is as much as any guy can hope for. And yeah, I'm Rainout and the gal probably saw my sweet jacket and yeah, peacocking works.
I've been to LA Club (above from Pozolim, also renamed but can't remember what it's called now) and 18 Palace blows it away. Drinks, dancing, good music, a live stage with dancers...a good combination for a fun night.
The area also has Mango Club which is also newly opened and hopping. And of course California Red (R2). Very fun area.
Rainout
Anyway, went to another BBS today and got myself a REAL looker with a dynamite body. NOT a stinky poo at all, and in fact quite close to being a White Tiger. Plus, best of all, from Maoming / a Cantonese speaker.
I thought I had it all fixed up, but, my recent run of bad luck with gals hadn't run out. I think I had her a day before you, SEAJ. The one I had has like 36D tits, huge and very soft. Didn't know what to do with those huge knockers but the small amount of hair in the pubic region was fun to touch. Very silky and thin. She's from guandong and kinda tall, so I don't know why I even took her. Freakin like an amazon when standing next to me.
My BBS experiences have been great. I've found some cute gals and all have been good experiences. I haven't encountered stinky pussy, stinky feet, stinky breathe or any of that. None have asked me for additional tips for Chinese New Year (YET) so that's a good sign.
One thing I'd like to mention is CABS. Freakin cabs are sneakily not using the meter when you get in and once you tell him the destination, he would tell you 15 rmb or so. If you say no, he would kick you out and drive off. I've had this happen to me not only on Sat and Sun, but also from Mon to Friday. This is perhaps due to Chinese New Year when cab drivers are more bold to overcharge. It's not uncommon to hail 3 cabs before one would use the meter or if not the meter, but quote a lower charge to get to the destination.
You might still have an opportunity for the vaginal odour neutralizer but a cream that lightens nipples to a pinkish color is already available in stores selling beauty products like SASA. This cream is either from Taiwan or Korea.
SEAJOE,
But there's nothing I hate more than the smell of a stinky poo vagina. I swear if I can only invent two things:
1. A nipple cream that lightens the nipple color to pink.
2. A vaginal odor neutralizer or eliminator.
I think I would be rich!
But sorry to hear about the stinky poo Joe. I guess it's part of the game as you like to say. You have to do so many bad ones inbetween to find a true gem. Not a good ending to this year as we embark on a new year soon, but hope next year will bring better luck and crop your way.
AsnDragon.
Dear BMs, I'll be in both Houjie and in CP in March.
I'm familiar very well with the saunas scene in Houjie.
Have never been to CP as yet.
Question: Are there any discos / bars in Houjie or in CP where you can pick up a local girl, either WG or an amateur freelancer for an overnight? For $$$ of course!
I can speak some rudimentary Mandarin.
Thanks in advance!
Mit Fo Lfe
01-29-11, 06:35
I think I had her a day before you, SEAJ. The one I had has like 36D tits, huge and very soft. Didn't know what to do with those huge knockers but the small amount of hair in the pubic region was fun to touch. Very silky and thin. She's from guandong and kinda tall, so I don't know why I even took her. Freakin like an amazon when standing next to me.
My BBS experiences have been great. I've found some cute gals and all have been good experiences. I haven't encountered stinky pussy, stinky feet, stinky breathe or any of that. None have asked me for additional tips for Chinese New Year (YET) so that's a good sign.
One thing I'd like to mention is CABS. Freakin cabs are sneakily not using the meter when you get in and once you tell him the destination, he would tell you 15 rmb or so. If you say no, he would kick you out and drive off. I've had this happen to me not only on Sat and Sun, but also from Mon to Friday. This is perhaps due to Chinese New Year when cab drivers are more bold to overcharge. It's not uncommon to hail 3 cabs before one would use the meter or if not the meter, but quote a lower charge to get to the destination. Where was bai ling during your chicken runs?
BTW do you ever check or respond to emails?
Anybody want to hangout and get a few drinks here tonight?
I think a good one would be around 300-400RMB. You need a bigger and better one to warm up the room fast once you enter the room. It would be nice if you can leave it ON all the time. However, most hotels you need card keys to turn ON the power to the room. It is off once you leave the room with the key. Sometimes like a business card or credit card will do the trick to leave it ON but some requires a card with a chip.
I know jolly old Santas loves fat girls. Just a stupid joke. We bought a few. 600 for a radiator type heater, works good in room up to 12' x 12', and 300 for a ceramic blowing fan type heater which will also work in that type of room. They also sell the 'fan' type heater that looks like a fan but has a heater in center with no blades, directs heat in a 'beam' problem is if it isn't on you you don't feel it.
All at the electronics store near redlion (in the computer building)
Fast Eddie 48
01-31-11, 22:16
I think I had her a day before you, SEAJ. The one I had has like 36D tits, huge and very soft. Didn't know what to do with those huge knockers but the small amount of hair in the pubic region was fun to touch. Very silky and thin. She's from guandong and kinda tall, so I don't know why I even took her. Freakin like an amazon when standing next to me.
My BBS experiences have been great. I've found some cute gals and all have been good experiences. I haven't encountered stinky pussy, stinky feet, stinky breathe or any of that. None have asked me for additional tips for Chinese New Year (YET) so that's a good sign.
One thing I'd like to mention is CABS. Freakin cabs are sneakily not using the meter when you get in and once you tell him the destination, he would tell you 15 rmb or so. If you say no, he would kick you out and drive off. I've had this happen to me not only on Sat and Sun, but also from Mon to Friday. This is perhaps due to Chinese New Year when cab drivers are more bold to overcharge. It's not uncommon to hail 3 cabs before one would use the meter or if not the meter, but quote a lower charge to get to the destination.To Bruce
I cannot believe all this time you are in CP and never got a stinky po bbs girl, I have more sticky po at CP than any other place in the world not sure why, as I remember most stinky po girl are from Sichuan ara.
Fast Eddie 48
I cannot believe all this time you are in CP and never got a stinky po bbs girl, I have more sticky po at CP than any other place in the world not sure why, as I remember most stinky po girl are from Sichuan ara.Eddie eddie eddie,
I kid you not, my friend. No bbs gal on record had stinky pussy or feet. Stinky armpits, yes. Stinky breath yes.
I don't usually eat snatch but I do get my nose close and personal to the clit. I also enjoy different positions and I would be able to smell any weird emissions from the pussy. Nope nope nope, all good. Now that I said it, my luck would probably change, but hey, I 'm being boastful of my good luck thus far.
I did have one stinky pussy from a KTV gal. She would not let my hands or head in that area. Once I entered her and humped, I could smell the stink coming out. It stunk up my condom and I took off the condom like I was handling something toxic. My first and only stinky poo gal in my life. Funny thing is, another brother tried her even after my warning and also confirmed the stink. Bwahahaha!
Ps I love the stink of b.o. When screwing. It's like her body smells of soap when messing around, then when screwing, her body gets that body odor. Maybe she's orgasming. Maybe she's getting worked up. Who knows, but it's nice to have some reaction other than light moaning.
eddie eddie eddie,
i kid you not, my friend. no bbs gal on record had stinky pussy or feet. stinky armpits, yes. stinky breath yes.
i don't usually eat snatch but i do get my nose close and personal to the clit. i also enjoy different positions and i would be able to smell any weird emissions from the pussy. nope nope nope, all good. now that i said it, my luck would probably change, but hey, i 'm being boastful of my good luck thus far.
i did have one stinky pussy from a ktv gal. she would not let my hands or head in that area. once i entered her and humped, i could smell the stink coming out. it stunk up my condom and i took off the condom like i was handling something toxic. my first and only stinky poo gal in my life. funny thing is, another brother tried her even after my warning and also confirmed the stink. bwahahaha!
ps i love the stink of be. o. when screwing. it's like her body smells of soap when messing around, then when screwing, her body gets that body odor. maybe she's orgasming. maybe she's getting worked up. who knows, but it's nice to have some reaction other than light moaning. i had a stinky poo from the bbses near swan lake on my last visit. i noticed it when i was humping her (doggie) , and the smell was so very strong that i could only thrust in / out 2 more times before i had to hit the 007 car-seat ejection on myself and get into the bathroom and peel the condom off. i was superman and this was kryptonite!
i then jumped into the shower and showered with a lot of soap. got out, and she's standing there looking at me wondering what's the problem. i said she had stinky poo, but i think she thought that i meant that she was no fun (how she could not smell her own damn odor. i don't know. it was really thick and strong!). she understood that our 'date' was over and showered and left. i had to turn the air-conditioning on high just to try and clear my room of the smell after she left.
i went to lay on the bed, and scratching my balls could still smell stinky poo on my hairy / balls, and getting on my fingers again (why did i sniff my fingers when i could smell it just when scratching!). i ended up taking 3 damn showers, and seriously thought about shaving all the hair completely off. even scrubbed with some tsing tao and a big sqeeze of toothpaste!
anyway, you guys beware of this particular girl, omfg!
her name is. uhmmm, oh damn, i forgot her name (heck, i probably never even asked her for her name!).
dar.
ps. abcinla, i think you were with me, and i think i picked her up at the yalan bbs when you, me and another guy went to yalan. so, it probably wasn't a swan lake bbs girl.
To Bruce
I cannot believe all this time you are in CP and never got a stinky po bbs girl, I have more sticky po at CP than any other place in the world not sure why, as I remember most stinky po girl are from Sichuan ara.
Fast Eddie 48OH yes BT the Fuhao stinky poo KTV girl. In fact I had her months before that and didn't remember this.
Bruce warned me - the double warned me and triple warned me but I charged on .I thought he was nuts. Well that was a bad kickoff night considering my first choice comes and is on rag (no stinky poo BD model) and I end up with a bad stinky poo who was a lazy lay. Must have been drunk the first time she was over or it was a new development.
SE Asia Joe
02-04-11, 09:17
All this talk about stinky Poo's got me wondering what others do when confronted with the PONG?
Me, I just get it over with ASAP and just shower pronto. But AFTERWARDS, I'm always double checking my Li'l bro to see if it got stunk up also or not - And really look through my pubes - Any crawly creepies or not; For I KNOW that the old 'dom ain't going to stop venereal lice.
And even just BBBJ's from these PONG gals - I've always got it in my mind that if her nookie was that bad smelling, that something's bound to also NOT be all hunky-dorey with her mouth.
My God I hope I'm not just being paranoid.
But all them thoughts ALWAYS comes into my noggins everytime I've had a PONG gal.
What do YOU guys do when confronted with these stinky pussy gals?
SEAJ
Fast Eddie 48
02-04-11, 23:39
OH yes BT the Fuhao stinky poo KTV girl. In fact I had her months before that and didn't remember this.
Bruce warned me. The double warned me and triple warned me but I charged on. I thought he was nuts. Well that was a bad kickoff night considering my first choice comes and is on rag (no stinky poo BD model) and I end up with a bad stinky poo who was a lazy lay. Must have been drunk the first time she was over or it was a new development.To Freespeak
Which KTV is this you can pm me, I don't think KTV got this problem because of Quality control, this is bad for the business if info get out, I report the stinky po to the mamasan at the bbs the next night she told me she didn't know she is new to the shop.
Fast Eddie 48
SEAJoe,
Honestly, it really depends on how stinky the girls are. If the girl is just slightly stinky, I do her missionary style and lean my body on top of her, and put my face near her ear portion and hopefully being so far away from her pussy helps mitigate the stink catching up my nose. I think breathe through my mouth and not my nose to finish up the deed and proceed into the bathroom as quick as possible to flush out the condom and scrub like crazy.
Now for the really stinky ones. I just cannot stand it. I've had to pay a girl to leave because I just could not take it. I proceed to shower and scrub vigilantly throughout my whole pubes and penis. I throw away the condom in the wastebasket, and I proceed to dumb mouth wash and also spray cologne if I have to to cover up the smell while I call for room service to empty out the trash can.
It's funny how some guys in here state that when you are doing a girl (non-stinky poo) and she start emitting a smell from her vagina that it means that they are getting horny. I've heard of this before from a friend, but I always thought that it was just rumors.
AsnDragon.
All this talk about stinky Poo's got me wondering what others do when confronted with the PONG?
Me, I just get it over with ASAP and just shower pronto. But AFTERWARDS, I'm always double checking my Li'l bro to see if it got stunk up also or not. And really look through my pubes. Any crawly creepies or not; For I KNOW that the old 'dom ain't going to stop venereal lice.
And even just BBBJ's from these PONG gals. I've always got it in my mind that if her nookie was that bad smelling, that something's bound to also NOT be all hunky-dorey with her mouth.
My God I hope I'm not just being paranoid.
But all them thoughts ALWAYS comes into my noggins everytime I've had a PONG gal.
What do YOU guys do when confronted with these stinky pussy gals?
SEAJ
Fast Eddie,
I don't know. I'm a bit of a softie. I know many people like to complain to mamasans and the mangers about a girl's pussy being stinky. But I feel bad. Honestly, I don't know. Some girls just are born with really stinky poo pussies. It's not really their fault. So I feel bad complaining about them and then they lose their job. I mean if a girl has a bad attitude or pulled some outrageous stunt like purposely bad performance then I will complain. But complaining about a girl's stinky poo pussy is like complaining that she has crooked teeth. That's jut my opinion.
But I have had a stinky poo pussy before with a BBS girl. She was a very popular girl. Not only did she have a stinky poo pussy, she had the worst body odor ever. It emitted fumes of rotten eggs, sweat and wet laundry that didn't dry out correctly. I thought that she would not last long in the BBS. But she was always picked. And also later on worked at a KTV and was very popular. She later on told me she got "sponsored" by a HK guy. So I'm thinking. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. There's always someone who doesn't mind.
My question also is. Perhaps. Do you think that although some guys think the girl is a stinky poo, that other guys might actually like that smell? As you know pheromones emitted from different girls don't attract all guys only certain guys. Could this be true with stinky poos? That some guys are attracted that that foul smell? While other cannot stand it?
AsnDragon.
To Freespeak
Which KTV is this you can pm me, I don't think KTV got this problem because of Quality control, this is bad for the business if info get out, I report the stinky po to the mamasan at the bbs the next night she told me she didn't know she is new to the shop.
Fast Eddie 48
SEAJoe,
Joe, come to think about it, there was this one girl about 3 years back names A-Kuen from Swan Lake BBS, when Swan Lake BBS still existed, and you had her for a nice session first. I was so impressed with the pictures that I asked you about what her name was. I proceeded to go and find her at Swan Lake BBS and finally got her after asking every Mommie which one was A-Kuen who speaks Cantonese.
Anyhow. So I finally got her and boy. Her skins was soft and smooth. And she had the nicest rack ever. Not huge, but a firm 32C. I tend to like the breasts to be firm and natural as firm breasts usually signal to me that they are still young (even though everyone in all the BBS claim to be 18). Anyhow, everything was great, except that she smokes, but she had a stinky poo. I distinctly remember because although she was hot, she really stinks down there. Also. In the back of my head I'm thinking. How can SEAJoe not disclose that she's a stinky poo to me? Haha j / k.
So I had this dilemma- she's hot and I like her body and like the sex, but she has a smell pussy. Do I skip her and go to some other girl, or do I go for a second round later on? I decided to pass on her for a second round, but I kept in somewhat close touch with her. I fixed her cell phone when she dropped it a few days later and ever since she still remembers me.
Decisions. Decisions. What do you do when she's got a smoking hot body and sex is good with her, but she stinks down there?
AsnDragon.
All this talk about stinky Poo's got me wondering what others do when confronted with the PONG?
Me, I just get it over with ASAP and just shower pronto. But AFTERWARDS, I'm always double checking my Li'l bro to see if it got stunk up also or not. And really look through my pubes. Any crawly creepies or not; For I KNOW that the old 'dom ain't going to stop venereal lice.
And even just BBBJ's from these PONG gals. I've always got it in my mind that if her nookie was that bad smelling, that something's bound to also NOT be all hunky-dorey with her mouth.
My God I hope I'm not just being paranoid.
But all them thoughts ALWAYS comes into my noggins everytime I've had a PONG gal.
What do YOU guys do when confronted with these stinky pussy gals?
SEAJ
Robin Mill
02-05-11, 09:56
Hi AsnDragon.
A-Kuen. I think she has the nickest rack I ever see on a girl. With the perfect body, and CFM look. She is the first gal I hook up with in CP, introduce by SEAJoe, and she left a deep impression on me.
I don't recall her having a stinky poo, but she does have a really bad stinky mouth becuase of her chain smoking! If she has stinky poo, it must be a slight one, that I register during the deal, but totally forget about it after. I think her mouth stink more that her poo.
She is now a Mamasan in a KTV behind MeiBao.
Nicest rack ever. With the perfect body. Cannot forget.
SEAJoe,
Joe, come to think about it, there was this one girl about 3 years back names A-Kuen from Swan Lake BBS, when Swan Lake BBS still existed, and you had her for a nice session first. I was so impressed with the pictures that I asked you about what her name was. I proceeded to go and find her at Swan Lake BBS and finally got her after asking every Mommie which one was A-Kuen who speaks Cantonese.
Anyhow. So I finally got her and boy. Her skins was soft and smooth. And she had the nicest rack ever. Not huge, but a firm 32C. I tend to like the breasts to be firm and natural as firm breasts usually signal to me that they are still young (even though everyone in all the BBS claim to be 18). Anyhow, everything was great, except that she smokes, but she had a stinky poo. I distinctly remember because although she was hot, she really stinks down there. Also. In the back of my head I'm thinking. How can SEAJoe not disclose that she's a stinky poo to me? Haha j / k.
So I had this dilemma- she's hot and I like her body and like the sex, but she has a smell pussy. Do I skip her and go to some other girl, or do I go for a second round later on? I decided to pass on her for a second round, but I kept in somewhat close touch with her. I fixed her cell phone when she dropped it a few days later and ever since she still remembers me.
Decisions. Decisions. What do you do when she's got a smoking hot body and sex is good with her, but she stinks down there?
AsnDragon.
SE Asia Joe
02-05-11, 12:43
Hi AsnDragon.
A-Kuen. I think she has the nickest rack I ever see on a girl. With the perfect body, and CFM look. She is the first gal I hook up with in CP, introduce by SEAJoe, and she left a deep impression on me.
I don't recall her having a stinky poo, but she does have a really bad stinky mouth becuase of her chain smoking! If she has stinky poo, it must be a slight one, that I register during the deal, but totally forget about it after. I think her mouth stink more that her poo.
She is now a Mamasan in a KTV behind MeiBao.
Nicest rack ever. With the perfect body. Cannot forget. AAAHHH A Kuen. Nice Gal A Kuen!
And yes, unfortunately she does have a bad smoking habit. Chain smoking those cheap Chinese cigarettes. But I also never smelled anything "untoward" with her nookie.
AsnD, are you sure its not old age making you all confused?
Somebody else perhaps?
Yes, A Kuen who I always feel for. She's one of these gals who's always wanting to get out of the trade, but always just ends up right back in it. Mainly because of her wild partying ways (and spending too much) PLUS a drug habit. Not sure if she's actually hooked or not. But she sure does enjoy it. Pity!
I've known her for what, about 3 years? And in that period of time, I've known her as a BBS gal, BBS mommie, KTV gal, a kept GF, a KTV mommie, a freelancer, even a couple stints as a clothing sales girl. The last one when I even bought some clothes from her, only to find out that she was fired the next day as she was out partying all night and didn't make it back to work the next day!
And BTW - when was it that you saw her working as a KTV mommie behind the Meibao? At the Li Hao? Or another one? I bumped into her at the Wah Yuen shopping mall a couple or so weeks ago and she told me that she's in-between jobs and back to freelancing for a while
Ahhh....... A Kuen! And for you guys who're wondering what all these 3 guys are going on and on about, a few pixs of her!
SEAJ
AAAHHH A Kuen. Nice Gal A Kuen!
And yes, unfortunately she does have a bad smoking habit. Chain smoking those cheap Chinese cigarettes. But I also never smelled anything "untoward" with her nookie.
AsnD, are you sure its not old age making you all confused?
Somebody else perhaps?
Yes, A Kuen who I always feel for. She's one of these gals who's always wanting to get out of the trade, but always just ends up right back in it. Mainly because of her wild partying ways (and spending too much) PLUS a drug habit. Not sure if she's actually hooked or not. But she sure does enjoy it. Pity!
I've known her for what, about 3 years? And in that period of time, I've known her as a BBS gal, BBS mommie, KTV gal, a kept GF, a KTV mommie, a freelancer, even a couple stints as a clothing sales girl. The last one when I even bought some clothes from her, only to find out that she was fired the next day as she was out partying all night and didn't make it back to work the next day!
And BTW. When was it that you saw her working as a KTV mommie behind the Meibao? At the Li Hao? Or another one? I bumped into her at the Wah Yuen shopping mall a couple or so weeks ago and she told me that she's in-between jobs and back to freelancing for a while.
Ahhh. A Kuen! And for you guys who're wondering what all these 3 guys are going on and on about, a few pixs of her!
SEAJWow. She is very nice. I wonder, SEAJ do you know that she will work as a freelancer in end of March, beacuse when we will arrive to CP at this time it will be nice to meet her personaly.
SE Asia Joe
02-06-11, 07:53
Wow. She is very nice. I wonder, SEAJ do you know that she will work as a freelancer in end of March, beacuse when we will arrive to CP at this time it will be nice to meet her personaly.No idea whatsoever! She's always changing jobs and professions! LOL!
OTH. CP is FULL of gals. And by end of March, the place should be heaving with them.
Most of the gals should presumably be all back from CNY etc and there will also be newbies eager tostart their new "career". So I wouldn't worry about it.
SEAJ
SEAJoe,
Look young man! Take it from guys like me ok? I'm 60 years old. And I've been mongering more years than you were born. What are you now. 26 years old or something? When an experienced guy like me smells a smelly vagina. Then it's a stinky poo! I've mongered enough years to know what a stinky poo is thank you very much. I think all of your working out at the gym to pump up your muscles and 8-pack abdominals have gotten you a bit absent minded.
But yes. A-Kuen. What a great rack she has! She is the prettiest Chao Zhou girl I have ever been with thus far. They don't make them like this back in Chou Zhou!
AsnDragon.
AAAHHH A Kuen. Nice Gal A Kuen!
AsnD, are you sure its not old age making you all confused?
Somebody else perhaps?
SEAJ
Robin Mill,
Hey, how have you been? Long time no see! A-Kuen really left a good impression on me as well. With tits like that, no guy can complain. But she leaving a deep impression on you? Seriously? I mean you usually get all the girls. I mean. Honestly, you get all the girls.
I either see you romancing BBS girls or some other random girl. Most girls end up getting so sticky to you that you don't know what to do with them. You end up having a hard time trying to get rid of them. Perhaps it's your super athletic skills that they are attracted to or your sweet talk that get them. But you are the one guy who ends up romancing these BBS girls to end up falling in love with you. You are such a heartbreaker!
When's the next time you going to be in CP?
P. S- Like partying with Robin Mill because he picks out the best looking girls at the KTV to sit with him at the KTV room. Robin Mill proceeds to leave the KTV and leaves his beautiful girl behind and I end up taking them back home and end up doing his girls. (with his permission of course) What Fun! Thanks for screening out the girls and picking the good ones for me =)
AsnDragon.
Hi AsnDragon.
A-Kuen. I think she has the nickest rack I ever see on a girl. With the perfect body, and CFM look. She is the first gal I hook up with in CP, introduce by SEAJoe, and she left a deep impression on me.
I don't recall her having a stinky poo, but she does have a really bad stinky mouth becuase of her chain smoking! If she has stinky poo, it must be a slight one, that I register during the deal, but totally forget about it after. I think her mouth stink more that her poo.
She is now a Mamasan in a KTV behind MeiBao.
Nicest rack ever. With the perfect body. Cannot forget.
SE Asia Joe
02-06-11, 10:34
SEAJoe,
Look young man! Take it from guys like me ok? I'm 60 years old. And I've been mongering more years than you were born. What are you now. 26 years old or something? When an experienced guy like me smells a smelly vagina. Then it's a stinky poo! I've mongered enough years to know what a stinky poo is thank you very much. I think all of your working out at the gym to pump up your muscles and 8-pack abdominals have gotten you a bit absent minded.
But yes. A-Kuen. What a great rack she has! She is the prettiest Chao Zhou girl I have ever been with thus far. They don't make them like this back in Chou Zhou!
AsnDragon. Oooops! I guess all I can offer in defense is something which somebody else wrote here. Somewhere!
He sez:
". Do you think that although some guys think the girl is a stinky poo, that other guys might actually like that smell? As you know pheromones emitted from different girls don't attract all guys only certain guys. Could this be true with stinky poos? That some guys are attracted that that foul smell? While other cannot stand it?."
And I'll have you know that I've grown up now!
Don't forget. Please remember. Think about it. It's been at least a couple years when we met!
I is now 28 and I know everything now!
SEAJ
No idea whatsoever! She's always changing jobs and professions! LOL!
OTH. CP is FULL of gals. And by end of March, the place should be heaving with them.
Most of the gals should presumably be all back from CNY etc and there will also be newbies eager tostart their new "career". So I wouldn't worry about it.
SEAJYes I know that in end of March the whole CP will be crowded with freebies but A-Kuen she looks amazing on this photos and it will be pleasure to meet her in March.
SE Asia Joe
02-07-11, 02:59
Yes I know that in end of March the whole CP will be crowded with freebies but A-Kuen she looks amazing on this photos and it will be pleasure to meet her in March.Freebies? FREEBIES?
Who said anything about freebies?
A kuen is certainly NOT a freeby. And I'd say that one does not and SHOULD NOT go to Chang Ping if what he's after are freebies.
SEAJ
SEAJoe,
Ok, Mister 28 year old, muscular Blondie! I guess you got me on my own quote! In any case, we can all agree that A Kuen is just a one of a kind type of girl out there in CP. I think what I liked best about her was her enthusiasm in bed. She was actually really into the session. On top of it all, she's actually a very pensive girl- someone who does a lot of self-reflection on her life, where she wants to go or be. SHe's just a very deep person with character, which is really rare amongst CP girls as they either fall into three categories these days:
1. Girls driven to earn money and nothing else.
2. Girl's tricked into the trade by some skinny local guy and she's just blinded by her "love" for this loser local China guy.
3. Girl's that come just to have fun (usually seen more frequently amongst post 90's girls)
AS for the last number 3, I really see a lot of girls these days that come to CP working as WG not because they need money, but they come to have fun, or try it out for the thrill of it. On more than on occasion those WG CP girls working BBS and KTV recently, are actually from ok backgrounds. They just come to CP to try it out and ahve fun. Most of their parents end up flying them back home on airplanes. The post 80's generation of hard working girls are over. These days. All of the CP girls are less and less form farm lands and more and more from middle class families. Just my honest opinion.
AsnDragon.
Oooops! I guess all I can offer in defense is something which somebody else wrote here. Somewhere!
He sez:
". Do you think that although some guys think the girl is a stinky poo, that other guys might actually like that smell? As you know pheromones emitted from different girls don't attract all guys only certain guys. Could this be true with stinky poos? That some guys are attracted that that foul smell? While other cannot stand it."
And I'll have you know that I've grown up now!
Don't forget. Please remember. Think about it. It's been at least a couple years when we met!
I is now 28 and I know everything now!
SEAJ
Jacher,
SEAJoe is correct, CP is not well known to have freebies. Although freebies are possible, they are not swarming the streets like other bigger cities within China.
In my personal opinion, since New years is earlier this year, I think that the girls will start trickling in by the beginning of March already, no need to wait until the end of March. In fact it's better to be there earlier as Canton Fair is in April and fighting with all of those guys is a pain, not to mention that prices of hotels become more expensive and getting KTV rooms and footie rooms become harder as well.
I wish I was younger like SEAJoe- then I could get some freebies. But for old men like me, we have to pay to play, nothing comes free for us.
AsnDragon.
Yes I know that in end of March the whole CP will be crowded with freebies but A-Kuen she looks amazing on this photos and it will be pleasure to meet her in March.
SEAJoe,
Recently, I have had quite a liking to Jiangxi girls. Every time I get with one, I'm thinking in the back of head how you fell head over heals for your Jiangxi girl. I'm beginning to find the appeal for Jiangxi Girls, they seem to be different from the rest of the crowd. Perhaps it's their personality but they seem to be a bit more spunky and fun loving. Same experience with you?
P. S- just to clarify, I do not discriminate amongst different province of girls within China- I love them all, but some province girls I like more than others these days- Hubei, Sichuan, Jiangxi. (Hunan girls are a hit or miss for me)
AsnDragon
SE Asia Joe
02-07-11, 09:28
SEAJoe,
Recently, I have had quite a liking to Jiangxi girls. Every time I get with one, I'm thinking in the back of head how you fell head over heals for your Jiangxi girl. I'm beginning to find the appeal for Jiangxi Girls, they seem to be different from the rest of the crowd. Perhaps it's their personality but they seem to be a bit more spunky and fun loving. Same experience with you?
P. S- just to clarify, I do not discriminate amongst different province of girls within China- I love them all, but some province girls I like more than others these days- Hubei, Sichuan, Jiangxi. (Hunan girls are a hit or miss for me)
AsnDragonMy GOODNESS! For an old guy, you sure have a good memory!
And talking about memory and old girl friends etc, you remember Xiao Xiao? The gal you kept on after at my suggestion? Did you ever do her in the end?
Another really great gal and certainly NOT one of your lazy post 90's generation. I miss her and wish her the best.
And yes, I think and really wish that she's out of the trade now. But I don't put too much hope in that.
And just to be reminiscing, its the old Pimp and gal story. Only this time a lot worse about Xiao Xiao IMHO. This gal had originally been just a factory worker, got wined and dined as usual by the pimp and fell totally and madly in love with him. The worst part is that this bum was also a heavy duty drug addict. And so he turfed her out to work at a Longang BBS for RMB 100. YES RMB 100 per pop. With her keeping RMB 70. He even taught her all the WG skills and she really is one of the best blowers I've had - all the PSE action and everything. All at the coaching of her BF.
And this gal love this bum so badly that she would a lot of time just rush back home after doing a client and give him her RMB 70, just so that he can get his "Sniff" right away before going back to work.
Well, he got caught and was sent to jail. And can you believe it. Even when he was in jail, he had some kind of Svengali hold over her and she went to CP to work AND saved all her money to 1. Pay the bribe to see her BF in jail (and here I THINK the BF was in cahoots with the Jail guard and would split the supposed "bribe" she paid) 2. Give money to him when she does see him. 3. Save money to build up an amount that they could use to be together when he gets out.
And remember how painfully skinny she was? That's because she would hardly EVER go out to eat by herself. Preferring to wait for her clients to treat her for food or snacks and she saving her money. I asked her what happens if the client does NOT treat her to something to eat and she was really hungry. And she told me that she would be forced (Yes, she used the word "forced") to go and eat at a MaaLaaTaang stand but she would limit herself to RMB 4 there. Pitiful, really pitiful.
The BF got out of jail and she went off to be with him and I've respected her wishes for me NOT to call her. She's got my phone number still and she's promised me that if she was going to go back into the business, that I would be the first one she would call. And up to now, I've NOT received her phone.
Good luck and my best wishes to you Xiao Xiao!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
02-07-11, 09:43
Jacher,
SEAJoe is correct, CP is not well known to have freebies. Although freebies are possible, they are not swarming the streets like other bigger cities within China.
I wish I was younger like SEAJoe- then I could get some freebies. But for old men like me, we have to pay to play, nothing comes free for us.
AsnDragon. Actually and of course only IMHO I truly think that anybody who's out there trying to get freebies from WG's are pretty low life.
I mean these gals are out there, denying themselves any dignity just to be able to earn $$$ for whatever reason. And then some monger - who by the very nature of him being able to have $$ to go out mongering signals that he does have advantages ($$, Brains, experience etc) over a regular WG - there to take unfair advantage of these WG's.
WG's ARE usually not the brightest bulb in the pack and they many times ARE emotionally needy. And such easy pickin's for the suave monger.
And especially in a place like Chang Ping where picking up freeebies is probably akin to shooting fish in a barrel (as many WG's as there is here) and as young and inexperienced some of these gals are.
Totally unfair and totally low life to try to get freebies.
I hope for all sorts of Bad Karma for these guys!
SEAJ
Monkey1122
02-07-11, 10:15
Hi all.
Will be going to CP on the 17th, just wondering if wg quantity would be better by then.
Thanks in advance
WOW its seems that my post open very interesting discusion LOL.
But after reading this post again I see what a mistake I made. I mean that in March CP is crowded with bunch new babes (not a freebies ). But you must forgive me I wrote this post in hurry after heavy drinking with friends and english is not my first language.
I know very well that in CP is one game only P4P.
And when we came in March we will play in this game ofcourse.
But still it will be pleasure to meet A Kuen wathever she doing now, I think she will enjoy this meeting beacuse we are bunch of guys loving good party and we appreciate when babes are enthusiastic and enjoying and we are for them very generous.
Jacher
Hi guys,
If I'm in the wrong link, let me know, but has anyone stayed at the Yucca Hotel in Jiangmen and can let me know what's on offer? The website shows massage rooms but I normally stay at the Grand Howard (Chamen Hotel) in Qingxi Town Dongguan and the FS is on a separate floor.
Thanks
Jiangmen city is in Guangdong. South-west of Guangzhou/Foshan, and directly west of Zhongshan.
Qingxi town of Dongguan (that I know) is East of Dongguan.
If you take the Shenzhen/Luohu-to-Dongguan/ChangPing train, then Qingxi town is between LuoHu/Shenzhen and ZhangMuTou town (ZMT town).
When I am in Shenzhen/Luohu, I usually take the Dxxxx train (Luohu. Guangzhou) and get off on the 2nd / 3rd stop which is Dongguan/ChangPing. The 1st stop on this express (only 4 stops?) train is ZhangMuTou (ZMT).
You have me confused, because if you are staying in hotels in Dongguan/QingxiTown, but wanting to know about Jiangmen. The 2 cities are about quite far apart (ZMT-to-Guangzhou is 45 minutes via express CRH train; then add 2 hours by bus to go Zhongshan-to-Jiangmen. Total of 3 hours for 1-way travel).
Dar425 (-327) =Dar098.
Hi guys,
If I'm in the wrong link, let me know, but has anyone stayed at the Yucca Hotel in Jiangmen and can let me know what's on offer? The website shows massage rooms but I normally stay at the Grand Howard (Chamen Hotel) in Qingxi Town Dongguan and the FS is on a separate floor.
Thanks
Big Swingin Dave
02-08-11, 10:42
Hi all.
Will be going to CP on the 17th, just wondering if wg quantity would be better by then.
Thanks in advanceWas at Mayflower last night (Monday night, normally very slow during regular season.) , about 200 girls working but a bit more than Saturday (usually the busiest night of the week) so the girls are beginning to return to work. Anyone coming between now and next weekend should stay with the bigger KTVs (Mayflower, Eurasia, Penninsula, FuHao). BBS stock is very low, Sauna working with skeleton crew (more managers than WGs).
BSD
SEAJoe,
For a young guy like you, you seem to have a lot of experience for a 28 year old.
You know in regards to Xiao Xiao, there's actually two Xiao Xiao that I know of. It's strange, but in CP girls all use the same type of name like "xiao Jiao","Xiao Yan","Xiao Li","Xiao Hui","Xiao Tian" etc, that I end up doing so so many I tend to lose track in my old age.
Your story about Xiao Xiao- is the common story that I hear all the time. It's quite sad but honestly, part of a young China girl's loyalty to a man is what turns us on in the first place. China's really the last frontier in meeting girls with a heart, and whom are more real than WG from other countries. Sure there are always exceptions, but when a China girl loves you. They really love you until the end (unless you so something ridiculously bad to her like cheat on her etc)
Talking about good experiences of girls in the past- I once knew of a Hunan / Henan girl. Her mom is Hunan and her Dad is Henan. She was a true beauty- 166 cm, beautiful eyes and great body. We really clicked but unfortunately didn't have much time to spend with each other before I left CP. But I was really into her and she had told me that if I would just give her 2000-3000 a month for living expenses, she would get a regualr job for 2, 000 a month and she would be my "exclusive" girl. Yes I know, I should NOT be falling for these types of comments, but I believed her and when I came back a couple of months later I found her working at a convenient store in HuangJiang at "mei Yi Jia." Yes I know. I am a sucker, but I have to trick myself once in a while. Old men like me can still dream right?
The one thing I could not stand about her and decided not to further our relations was her constant chain smoking habit and her stinky poo. Yes, she had a stinky poo! It was not just one occasion such as after a period or something, she smelled on several occasions we were in bed. But I wish her the best. Her name is Mi Mi and I kind of miss her and it's been 2 years already. Mi Mi, wherever you are, I wish you the best as well.
AsnDragon.
My GOODNESS! For an old guy, you sure have a good memory!
And talking about memory and old girl friends etc, you remember Xiao Xiao? The gal you kept on after at my suggestion? Did you ever do her in the end?
Another really great gal and certainly NOT one of your lazy post 90's generation. I miss her and wish her the best.
And yes, I think and really wish that she's out of the trade now. But I don't put too much hope in that.
And just to be reminiscing, its the old Pimp and gal story. Only this time a lot worse about Xiao Xiao IMHO. This gal had originally been just a factory worker, got wined and dined as usual by the pimp and fell totally and madly in love with him. The worst part is that this bum was also a heavy duty drug addict. And so he turfed her out to work at a Longang BBS for RMB 100. YES RMB 100 per pop. With her keeping RMB 70. He even taught her all the WG skills and she really is one of the best blowers I've had. All the PSE action and everything. All at the coaching of her BF.
And this gal love this bum so badly that she would a lot of time just rush back home after doing a client and give him her RMB 70, just so that he can get his "Sniff" right away before going back to work.
Well, he got caught and was sent to jail. And can you believe it. Even when he was in jail, he had some kind of Svengali hold over her and she went to CP to work AND saved all her money to 1. Pay the bribe to see her BF in jail (and here I THINK the BF was in cahoots with the Jail guard and would split the supposed "bribe" she paid) 2. Give money to him when she does see him. 3. Save money to build up an amount that they could use to be together when he gets out.
And remember how painfully skinny she was? That's because she would hardly EVER go out to eat by herself. Preferring to wait for her clients to treat her for food or snacks and she saving her money. I asked her what happens if the client does NOT treat her to something to eat and she was really hungry. And she told me that she would be forced (Yes, she used the word "forced") to go and eat at a MaaLaaTaang stand but she would limit herself to RMB 4 there. Pitiful, really pitiful.
The BF got out of jail and she went off to be with him and I've respected her wishes for me NOT to call her. She's got my phone number still and she's promised me that if she was going to go back into the business, that I would be the first one she would call. And up to now, I've NOT received her phone.
Good luck and my best wishes to you Xiao Xiao!
SEAJ
SEAJoe,
I do agree with you to a certain extent. Getting freebies in CP amongst hard working WG is really wrong, when most of them are just trying to earn some money.
But I have to admit that I have gotten freebies before in CP. But I don't know what constitutes as a freebie. I mean I take it more as a date. I take the girl out to eat a nice dinner, and sometimes get a footie and end up with a freebie in the end. At times I offer them cash in the end but they decline. I feel bad at times so I end up buying them a midnight snack, or visit them with fruits the next day. But I think freebies are alright so long as you treat them well with respect and treat them to a nice meal and perhaps a little but of grocery shopping or something. In addition if you do get a freebie I would always give them taxi cab fare home or even send them home personally.
But I always offer the girl some money, even though they decline, I always just tell them that it's for some spending cash and don't take it the wrong way. However, I have had girls that I offer them money in the end that they declined and was very angry that I offered her Money and was offended that I offered her money also. So it really depends on the girl.
As a rule of thumb in terms of freebies, if she's a WG I think most guys should politely offer money, and if not at least some type of gentlemanly compensation such as dinner, presents etc.
In the end every Man has to pay to be with a girl. Whether it be a love relationship, or Marriage- you either pay now or you pay later, but you will always end up paying- unless you are a deadbeat China Guy who lives off the hardwork of a WG in CP.
AsnDragon.
Actually and of course only IMHO I truly think that anybody who's out there trying to get freebies from WG's are pretty low life.
I mean these gals are out there, denying themselves any dignity just to be able to earn $$$ for whatever reason. And then some monger. Who by the very nature of him being able to have $$ to go out mongering signals that he does have advantages ($$, Brains, experience etc) over a regular WG. There to take unfair advantage of these WG's.
WG's ARE usually not the brightest bulb in the pack and they many times ARE emotionally needy. And such easy pickin's for the suave monger.
And especially in a place like Chang Ping where picking up freeebies is probably akin to shooting fish in a barrel (as many WG's as there is here) and as young and inexperienced some of these gals are.
Totally unfair and totally low life to try to get freebies.
I hope for all sorts of Bad Karma for these guys!
SEAJ
BSD,
Thanks for the update! I hope that girls will keep on trickling back to CP. But honestly, sometimes I want to do the managers at the Sauna more than the actual Sauna girls. I know what you are going to say- I'm messed up, but it's true. I like girls that I cannot get.
Hope all is well with you in CP!
AsnDragon.
Was at Mayflower last night (Monday night, normally very slow during regular season.) , about 200 girls working but a bit more than Saturday (usually the busiest night of the week) so the girls are beginning to return to work. Anyone coming between now and next weekend should stay with the bigger KTVs (Mayflower, Eurasia, Penninsula, FuHao). BBS stock is very low, Sauna working with skeleton crew (more managers than WGs).
BSD
Pointpanic
02-11-11, 13:24
AsnDragon,
Hey I was offered the same sort of deal a couple of years ago from a smart 19 yo young lady from Kunming. She had been in CP for a week to raise money for her sick sister and did not like working at Walter and wouldn't go home with customers. I was her second ever customer. Claims she ran away from the first customer. She was hard to miss in a line up with her thin body and 32 DDs which she said ran in the family, She couldn't stand it and left after spending the week with me to go to Shenzhen and learn computer programing as she was a straight A student when she graduated. She was so happy with me that she would sing and dance formal Chinese opera in the morning, read two Chinese language newspapers cover to cover and work on her computer programing skills. The only money she asked me for was to buy her more computer books. She was to work at a clothing store and asked me shyly when I left if I would spot her 2-3000 rmb per month and she would be exclusive. I said I'd think about it. She held out for a couple of months then ran out of funds and headed back home to the farm in Yunnan. She did catch the overnight train to visit with me on one other visit to CP but realized that I was not available long term. Got married to a player, had a child and wrote to me that her life was ruined as she caught her husband out and about and got divorced. Now a 21 year old with a six month old. How I wished I gave her the money. Even tried to find her in Kunming last summer but she was too poor to own a phone for awhile. Just got an email from her at Christmas asking for a present, basically pictures that Bill Lee took of her for me. She wanted them to remember how beautiful she was. Did send her some taken in Miraton garden and in White Swan lobby in Guangzhou. Her Name. Xiao Fxxx. Ah the good ole days. I wish her the best!
Point.
SEAJoe,
For a young guy like you, you seem to have a lot of experience for a 28 year old.
You know in regards to Xiao Xiao, there's actually two Xiao Xiao that I know of. It's strange, but in CP girls all use the same type of name like "xiao Jiao","Xiao Yan","Xiao Li","Xiao Hui","Xiao Tian" etc, that I end up doing so so many I tend to lose track in my old age.
Your story about Xiao Xiao- is the common story that I hear all the time. It's quite sad but honestly, part of a young China girl's loyalty to a man is what turns us on in the first place. China's really the last frontier in meeting girls with a heart, and whom are more real than WG from other countries. Sure there are always exceptions, but when a China girl loves you. They really love you until the end (unless you so something ridiculously bad to her like cheat on her etc)
Talking about good experiences of girls in the past- I once knew of a Hunan / Henan girl. Her mom is Hunan and her Dad is Henan. She was a true beauty- 166 cm, beautiful eyes and great body. We really clicked but unfortunately didn't have much time to spend with each other before I left CP. But I was really into her and she had told me that if I would just give her 2000-3000 a month for living expenses, she would get a regualr job for 2, 000 a month and she would be my "exclusive" girl. Yes I know, I should NOT be falling for these types of comments, but I believed her and when I came back a couple of months later I found her working at a convenient store in HuangJiang at "mei Yi Jia." Yes I know. I am a sucker, but I have to trick myself once in a while. Old men like me can still dream right?
The one thing I could not stand about her and decided not to further our relations was her constant chain smoking habit and her stinky poo. Yes, she had a stinky poo! It was not just one occasion such as after a period or something, she smelled on several occasions we were in bed. But I wish her the best. Her name is Mi Mi and I kind of miss her and it's been 2 years already. Mi Mi, wherever you are, I wish you the best as well.
AsnDragon.
Jettsetter
02-11-11, 19:55
AsnDragon,
Hey I was offered the same sort of deal a couple of years ago from a smart 19 yo young lady from Kunming. She had been in CP for a week to raise money for her sick sister and did not like working at Walter and wouldn't go home with customers. I was her second ever customer. Claims she ran away from the first customer. She was hard to miss in a line up with her thin body and 32 DDs which she said ran in the family, She couldn't stand it and left after spending the week with me to go to Shenzhen and learn computer programing as she was a straight A student when she graduated. She was so happy with me that she would sing and dance formal Chinese opera in the morning, read two Chinese language newspapers cover to cover and work on her computer programing skills. The only money she asked me for was to buy her more computer books. She was to work at a clothing store and asked me shyly when I left if I would spot her 2-3000 rmb per month and she would be exclusive. I said I'd think about it. She held out for a couple of months then ran out of funds and headed back home to the farm in Yunnan. She did catch the overnight train to visit with me on one other visit to CP but realized that I was not available long term. Got married to a player, had a child and wrote to me that her life was ruined as she caught her husband out and about and got divorced. Now a 21 year old with a six month old. How I wished I gave her the money. Even tried to find her in Kunming last summer but she was too poor to own a phone for awhile. Just got an email from her at Christmas asking for a present, basically pictures that Bill Lee took of her for me. She wanted them to remember how beautiful she was. Did send her some taken in Miraton garden and in White Swan lobby in Guangzhou. Her Name. Xiao Fxxx. Ah the good ole days. I wish her the best!
Point. Point, I remember her, from Walter. She had some huge knockers. I definitely was mesmerized and jealous! Haha. We always long for the ones that got away, right? But for every gem there are a bunch of schemers too. So keep your radar up boys. In the end, it's a fantasy land. Best not to get too caught up with a working girl in my opinion.
But the fun in finding that gem and exploring is what it's all about.
I'll be out there in March. Hope to catch up with familiar brothers.
-Jett
Transporter
02-12-11, 00:47
Guess it's about time to stop by CP again
Point,
I think I remember this story of yours. But let's just say that you were able to get a hold of her, would you still partake in spending a few days with her if she wanted to come to CP to visit you on your next trip? Or would you prefer the variety that CP has to offer you each time you go there?
It's a constant battle sometimes. You find a regular that you really like, but we still go out and venture for new girls and we ONLY come back to find our regulars when we have not found the type of girl we like. Problem is, once we come back to the regulars sometimes they have either moved on due to impatience or some other reason.
Sad thing is, CP turn around is so fast. You don't come back for a couple of months and girls you saw before just disappear on you. I guess that's why every time I go to KTVs all the guys pick more than one girl. It's the whole play hard or don't play at all / seize the moment mentality. Which I really understand now, if you don't pick them now, they aren't going to stick around for long, so just go for it! I've had too many regrets with girls that I didn't pursue hard enough when they had really good potential.
Point, when you coming back to CP?
AsnDragon.
AsnDragon,
Hey I was offered the same sort of deal a couple of years ago from a smart 19 yo young lady from Kunming. She had been in CP for a week to raise money for her sick sister and did not like working at Walter and wouldn't go home with customers. I was her second ever customer. Claims she ran away from the first customer. She was hard to miss in a line up with her thin body and 32 DDs which she said ran in the family, She couldn't stand it and left after spending the week with me to go to Shenzhen and learn computer programing as she was a straight A student when she graduated. She was so happy with me that she would sing and dance formal Chinese opera in the morning, read two Chinese language newspapers cover to cover and work on her computer programing skills. The only money she asked me for was to buy her more computer books. She was to work at a clothing store and asked me shyly when I left if I would spot her 2-3000 rmb per month and she would be exclusive. I said I'd think about it. She held out for a couple of months then ran out of funds and headed back home to the farm in Yunnan. She did catch the overnight train to visit with me on one other visit to CP but realized that I was not available long term. Got married to a player, had a child and wrote to me that her life was ruined as she caught her husband out and about and got divorced. Now a 21 year old with a six month old. How I wished I gave her the money. Even tried to find her in Kunming last summer but she was too poor to own a phone for awhile. Just got an email from her at Christmas asking for a present, basically pictures that Bill Lee took of her for me. She wanted them to remember how beautiful she was. Did send her some taken in Miraton garden and in White Swan lobby in Guangzhou. Her Name. Xiao Fxxx. Ah the good ole days. I wish her the best!
Point.
Pointpanic
02-12-11, 01:27
Jett,
She was one in a million. Remember I was so mesmerized by her that I forgot my Addidas jacket in the van and you were so kind enough to bring it Stateside and return it to me via FedEx. I still remember your kindness and continue to wear the same jacket on my CP visits so Dar, AsnDragon, Jim Traveler, BruceTea and SEAJoe and others can recognise me on the streets of CP and especially on Tian Erhu sort of like OAH's B baseball cap. I agree with your philosphy that "finding a gem and exploring is what it's all about!" It truly is Fantasy Land!
Heh heh but I still remember the Jiayi girl you were with that we had post KTV Chinese meal at Hui Hua with who refused to admit that she had been with me earlier. What a hottie and fantastic service. Still see her on occasion there. I'll see if I can match up to your visit but it might be tough to get away then.
Point.
Point, I remember her, from Walter. She had some huge knockers. I definitely was mesmerized and jealous! Haha. We always long for the ones that got away, right? But for every gem there are a bunch of schemers too. So keep your radar up boys. In the end, it's a fantasy land. Best not to get too caught up with a working girl in my opinion.
But the fun in finding that gem and exploring is what it's all about.
I'll be out there in March. Hope to catch up with familiar brothers.
-Jett
SE Asia Joe
02-12-11, 08:13
Good God guys!
All this reminiscing!
All you guys really, REALLY are due to get your pipes cleaned out!
So, concentrate on making lots of $$$ wherever you are and use all that $$$'s to get back here. PRONTO!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
02-12-11, 08:20
SEAJoe,
Your story about Xiao Xiao- is the common story that I hear all the time. It's quite sad but honestly, part of a young China girl's loyalty to a man is what turns us on in the first place. China's really the last frontier in meeting girls with a heart, and whom are more real than WG from other countries. Sure there are always exceptions, but when a China girl loves you. They really love you until the end (unless you so something ridiculously bad to her like cheat on her etc)
AsnDragon. OK. Time for ME to go back and also reminisce about Xiao Xiao. That gal who still sold herself for her useless drug addict BF (PIMP!) even though he was already languishing in jail.
Xiao2's stoic and dignified willingness to pursue life in the tenuous and dangerous world that paid sex is, just tugs at my heart-strings. No, not grit or determination and conversely not just resigning herself to fate. But her cheerful and naive willingness to sacrifice herself for that worthless manifestation of what a human being could degrade themselves to, truly speaks volumes about the kind of person she is.
Like I said, I would have been truly honored if she. Or anybody else for that matter. Could love me as unconditionally as she does her BF. And to a certain extent, it does reveal the basic generous / self sacrificing nature of Chinese women-folk.
SEAJ
I'm posting to publicly thank BSDave for the 1st really good 3some last night in China!
I arrived at HKIA and hustled my butt to CP. Being a late evening arrival, I knew I would miss out on choosing a girl during the flower street, but Dave knew to expect that I'd be late and RSVP'ed a girl for my arrival at the KTV (he picked one pretty damn close to what I requested). It was really nice to be able to join with the guys, albeit late, and still have something sweet waiting for me (vs combing the BBSes, and especially during CNYear).
During the night at the KTV, it turns out this Guangdong girl had a best friend (girl from Sichuan). To make a long story short, these 2 girls were the 1st real good 3-some I've ever had. Those of us who've tried 3-somes are usually disappointed because it often turns out with 1 girl watching while the other is playing with you. Always disappointing or not as hot as you always thought it would be, so this is why I never pursue 3somes in China anymore.
But these 2 particular little tigers like to double-team their guy! I had 1 girl sitting on my face, while the other BBBJ, then they swapped positions. I had one sucking on the tip of my dick while the other was smooching my balls, or was stroking the shaft of schlong encouraging me to try and CIM (her friends mouth). I even had one of the girls finish the 1st round by stroking me off and aiming / shooting it onto the other girls chest / neck / face (they both laughed about it).
The only thing that did not happen was girl-girl action, but at times they did get pretty close.
In the morning one of the girls gave me a nice 'bye bye' BBBJ and insisted / demanded that I CIM (she let me finish splooging completely into her mouth; then spit some of it, but said that probably 1/2 of it was swallowed because it shot deep into her throat). That always feels good to have a sweet GFE girl to actually ENCOURAGE a guy to CIM!
BSD knows who the 2 girls are, and I'm just happy to have finally had a GOOD 3some with 2 girls. I doubt I would have ever had such a good 3some in China. Thanks to BSD!
Dar
Criss Thor
02-13-11, 01:28
Dar425.
If that forum be the Facebook I definitelly click "like it" your report.
Why? First of all I'd really like to repeat your experiance with cjinese 3some.
Second, I agree that BSD service is really good and I can say that it's "customer's oriented".
Few reprts ago I saw that Jetsetter will be in CP in March. I can honestly say that I'm really happy because it's the guy who I met personally last year and I was impressed of his skils. Please believe me, because I was his neighbour room by room and I know that he ie definitelly not a lazy man.
At the end of March we will come to CP, and finally it will be group of 11 white guys (drinkin' a lot) so it could be funny to meet with you.
Regards to BSD, SEAJoe and everybody who I don't know yet, but from here.
Hello, all new and seasoned fan of CP,
Let me intro myself, I have a been an avid reader of the forum, and benefited so much for your story, information, and tips. Kudos all the brothers' contribution. I work and live in China (north) , and can get by with Chinese. I have been to CP a few times, played the k with mixed result (scammed by a girl from Eurasia, and mostly misses. Dead fishes from Mayflower) , but have gotten freebies from k girls (Fuhao.
I will be in CP on 2/20, 2/21 to stay for 2 nights, and wondering if the seasoned (senior means old. Members would show me the rope of how to be a true player.
My credit card got compromised, and this site doesn't take paypal to turn on PM. I will work my bank to get a new card, in the mean time, do send me PM, I am looking to get it turned on by Tuesday.
Thank you all in advance,
Staid Lo
SE Asia Joe
02-13-11, 08:19
was at the mayflower in cp last night. and man. for supposedly being about the only ktv there that is still functioning properly during this cny period, it was dead! half the gals for the line-up, not even half of the rooms occupied and less than a couple dozen cars parked at the parking lot at 10:30 when i left (early!). and all this on a saturday night!
the next door park hyatt was in worse shape, as again. barren parking lot!
interestingly, the versailles seems to be faring better with their parking lot quite full! i guess being the only ktv still able to offer naked ktv'ing does have its advantages, even if the place is so old, musty and dirty! hope / think things should improve rapidly as the cny season winds down.
and then i came upon a typical scene of justice. prc way!
right in front of the rainbow shopping mall and across the street from starbucks, the miraton etc was a crowd of people, surrounding at least three dozen policemen. who in turn was encircling a group of about 6 farmer / factory worker-looking people with all their belongings. including 6 live chickens. strewn on the ground. one of the people was totally passed out. and could have been dead for all i know, as lifeless as she seems to be.
apparently, the police had been conducting a road-block to confirep001e illegal bread van taxis. and this group of people had been on one from out of town, going back to work somewhere in dongguan. not sure if it was indeed an illegal for-hire van or if it was privately owned by one of them and just did not have the proper licences to go into cp. well, anyway, they had confirep001ed the van and had thrown the people and their belongings on the curb. and i guess that's when the trouble started. when the gal who fainted (died?) , had put up resistance and from what i heard them say. 5 cops beat her lifeless.
an ambulance came and tried to get her into it to take her to the hospital. but instead the rest of the group insisted that she was not going to be taken away and that they wanted to keep her right there as "evidence" or whatever. so it was a sort of tug-of-war with the civvie group winning. and the lifeless girl (she must have been only early 20's) back to laying on the ground, fully exposed to the 10 degrees drizzly weather. don't know what happened after that, as i just left.
but that is how things are in china. sad to see, really sad.
seaj
was at the mayflower in cp last night. and man. for supposedly being about the only ktv there that is still functioning properly during this cny period, it was dead! half the gals for the line-up, not even half of the rooms occupied and less than a couple dozen cars parked at the parking lot at 10:30 when i left (early!). and all this on a saturday night!
the next door park hyatt was in worse shape, as again. barren parking lot!
interestingly, the versailles seems to be faring better with their parking lot quite full! i guess being the only ktv still able to offer naked ktv'ing does have its advantages, even if the place is so old, musty and dirty! hope / think things should improve rapidly as the cny season winds down.
and then i came upon a typical scene of justice. prc way!
right in front of the rainbow shopping mall and across the street from starbucks, the miraton etc was a crowd of people, surrounding at least three dozen policemen. who in turn was encircling a group of about 6 farmer / factory worker-looking people with all their belongings. including 6 live chickens. strewn on the ground. one of the people was totally passed out. and could have been dead for all i know, as lifeless as she seems to be.
apparently, the police had been conducting a road-block to confirep001e illegal bread van taxis. and this group of people had been on one from out of town, going back to work somewhere in dongguan. not sure if it was indeed an illegal for-hire van or if it was privately owned by one of them and just did not have the proper licences to go into cp. well, anyway, they had confirep001ed the van and had thrown the people and their belongings on the curb. and i guess that's when the trouble started. when the gal who fainted (died?) , had put up resistance and from what i heard them say. 5 cops beat her lifeless.
an ambulance came and tried to get her into it to take her to the hospital. but instead the rest of the group insisted that she was not going to be taken away and that they wanted to keep her right there as "evidence" or whatever. so it was a sort of tug-of-war with the civvie group winning. and the lifeless girl (she must have been only early 20's) back to laying on the ground, fully exposed to the 10 degrees drizzly weather. don't know what happened after that, as i just left.
but that is how things are in china. sad to see, really sad.
seajbeofre the spring festival is more dangerous as a lot of the people going home for the holidays need $$$. usually the # of pickpockets, robberies, etc goes up.
Dear forum members,
I have been living and working in CP for about a year now. Yet I am still a sauna virgin._- I have been to the ktvs a couple of times with my company but for business purposes only. A couple of my friends from HK have constantly been asking to come visit (As CP is famous for havin some fun) but I'm too embaressed to tell them I haven't tried any of the spots (Not that I know any.)
They want to plan a trip here in March. Please could you give me some ideas of places to take them, prices?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
(Do you need to reserve beforehand? Sorry but I really do not have a clue about this stuff!)
All this talk about stinky Poo's got me wondering what others do when confronted with the PONG?
Me, I just get it over with ASAP and just shower pronto. SEAJSometimes I just cut my losses and end it there save the bullets and call in backup. But it is such a mood killer, best backup is if you have time just go to sauna and enjoy.
1. Girls driven to earn money and nothing else.
2. Girl's tricked into the trade by some skinny local guy and she's just blinded by her "love" for this loser local China guy.
3. Girl's that come just to have fun (usually seen more frequently amongst post 90's girls)
The post 80's generation of hard working girls are over. These days. All of the CP girls are less and less form farm lands and more and more from middle class families. Just my honest opinion.
AsnDragon. 1. Yes lots of them. And many looking for their sponsor (they don't have to be that hot either, just right for some guy)
2. Yes still happening but much much less. Most girls have wised up to that and if recruited by a friend then the friend advises them. Still though you have girls with loser boyfriends that willingly give their money instead of the old threaten them and they give money.
3. Yes I do think the number of girls that come to have some fun has increased. The new generation experiment with sex and this is a way for a farm girl to make some cash, see the city and go with their 'friend so it is safe.
Uh. Last comment nope!
Lots and lots of farm girls. Hell 70% of China population still rural areas. They just know now they don't have to stay on the farm with QQ and internet they know what is out there outside their village.
Dear forum members,
I have been living and working in CP for about a year now. Yet I am still a sauna virgin. _- I have been to the ktvs a couple of times with my company but for business purposes only. A couple of my friends from HK have constantly been asking to come visit (As CP is famous for havin some fun) but I'm too embaressed to tell them I haven't tried any of the spots (Not that I know any.)
They want to plan a trip here in March. Please could you give me some ideas of places to take them, prices?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
(Do you need to reserve beforehand? Sorry but I really do not have a clue about this stuff!) My suggestion is to get a membership here and PM BSDave. He will then insure that you and your friends have a perfect time. Before I met Dave my times were hit or miss, now I can be assured that I won't be overbilled, can join up with others for KTV from ISG and elsewhere and make some friends.
His fees are minimal compared to frustration of arguing over the KTV bill or deal with problems yourself. He is like a cruise director. And if you want to make it appear as if you 'know' the places, I'm sure Dave can arrange that, have managers come in and say Hello, to you or whatever if that pumps your ego.
My suggestion is to get a membership here and PM BSDave. He will then insure that you and your friends have a perfect time. Before I met Dave my times were hit or miss, now I can be assured that I won't be overbilled, can join up with others for KTV from ISG and elsewhere and make some friends.
His fees are minimal compared to frustration of arguing over the KTV bill or deal with problems yourself. He is like a cruise director. And if you want to make it appear as if you 'know' the places, I'm sure Dave can arrange that, have managers come in and say Hello, to you or whatever if that pumps your ego.Haha, no need for that. Just looking to have a good time. Would be great to meet a few of your ISGers out here too! I'll go home and get that membership pronto! Happy hunting guys!
Anyone who has been to CP will think this post smells fishy. Very fishy.
Dear forum members,
I have been living and working in CP for about a year now. Yet I am still a sauna virgin. _- I have been to the ktvs a couple of times with my company but for business purposes only. A couple of my friends from HK have constantly been asking to come visit (As CP is famous for havin some fun) but I'm too embaressed to tell them I haven't tried any of the spots (Not that I know any.)
They want to plan a trip here in March. Please could you give me some ideas of places to take them, prices?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
(Do you need to reserve beforehand? Sorry but I really do not have a clue about this stuff!)
Anyone who has been to CP will think this post smells fishy. Very fishy.And uh why is that?
Transporter
02-16-11, 02:37
Sometimes I just cut my losses and end it there save the bullets and call in backup. But it is such a mood killer, best backup is if you have time just go to sauna and enjoy.There comes a time in ones hobbing career that you have to start to take responsibility for the others to follow.
The best thing is to teach them hygiene, explain why it happens, and what they can do to avoid it. Tell them how much more money they can make with out the poo.
Not long ago, no one did BJ's in CP (other than the Vietnamese girls) but with a lot of people coaching the girls, it is a done deal now. In fact the girls now know how to use a sit down toilet because we started teaching them. Pay it forward.
Porter
Transporter,
Honestly, I wish I could "teach" them proper hygiene so that they are NOT stinky poos. But the truth is, sometimes you just can't get rid of the smell. No matter how many times you scrub down there, the smell does not go away. Just like Body odor. Sure they could shower and smell alright right after they shower, but once they start sweating their body odor comes right back.
Some girls. If they are a stinky poo, then they are one for life. For the ones that just have bad hygiene- are only a few girls out there. Most of them if they stink, they just stink. No cure, no cream, no spray can get rid of that stink.
Unless you know of some miracle drug. That can cure and permanently get rid of a stinky poo odor. If you do I would love to go into business with you.
AsnDragon.
There comes a time in ones hobbing career that you have to start to take responsibility for the others to follow.
The best thing is to teach them hygiene, explain why it happens, and what they can do to avoid it. Tell them how much more money they can make with out the poo.
Not long ago, no one did BJ's in CP (other than the Vietnamese girls) but with a lot of people coaching the girls, it is a done deal now. In fact the girls now know how to use a sit down toilet because we started teaching them. Pay it forward.
Porter
Transporter
02-16-11, 07:02
Transporter,
Honestly, I wish I could "teach" them proper hygiene so that they are NOT stinky poos. But the truth is, sometimes you just can't get rid of the smell. No matter how many times you scrub down there, the smell does not go away. Just like Body odor. Sure they could shower and smell alright right after they shower, but once they start sweating their body odor comes right back.
Some girls. If they are a stinky poo, then they are one for life. For the ones that just have bad hygiene- are only a few girls out there. Most of them if they stink, they just stink. No cure, no cream, no spray can get rid of that stink.
Unless you know of some miracle drug. That can cure and permanently get rid of a stinky poo odor. If you do I would love to go into business with you.
AsnDragon. Not trying to argue a point, just thought we should try and help our future out with whatever we can do, unfortunately some of your instances are a little different.
Of course though as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"; maybe "essence is in the nose of the beholder."
I am not saying that it is, but maybe some of what smells bad for you, could smell good for someone else. Its possible that her natural essence was designed to turn you off, and welcome someone else on.
Porter
SE Asia Joe
02-16-11, 13:49
IMHO. There are cures for stinky poo.
If it is just common bacteria that can also be at the armpit, the gal need to just use rubbing alcohol twice a day after showers and followed by just regular deodorant.
If on the other hand, there is the presence of a Venereal disease or another which causes such stinky poo, then there are specific antibiotics and / or suppositories etc they can take / use.
I of course am NOT a doctor etc and thus I've of course just taken SOME gals to the doctor to get them cleared up.
SEAJ
No cure, no cream, no spray can get rid of that stink.
Unless you know of some miracle drug. That can cure and permanently get rid of odor. If you do I would love to go into business with you.Diet's a factor. Some Asians swear they can smell lactic stink being emitted from dairy-eating Westerners.
ManonsanBoy
02-16-11, 23:55
But that is how things are in China. Sad to see, really sad.
SEAJ[/QUOTE]The local police are in general a disgrace in China.
ManonsanBoy
02-17-11, 00:09
Was at the sauna in Tangxia yesterday. Usual line up. Took a pretty one from Henan. In the room, she looked at me with a big grin. You do not know me? I looked at her; familar but no real recognition. Then she called me by my name. I looked at her again. Caddy, I asked? She smiled broadly.
Had a great session. Usual story; caddy is 2000-3000 a month. She needed more to get married. Was put up by a member of the golf club; did part time sauna work whilst the old chap was in HK. Got caught and thrown out of her room in Tangxia. Decided she still needed the money. Now earns about 8000-10000 a month. She gets 200-300 per customer. Maximum she did one day was 5. One of her regulars is the member who put her up. Go figure.
Fast Eddie 48
02-17-11, 05:49
But that is how things are in China. Sad to see, really sad.
SEAJThe local police are in general a disgrace in China. [/QUOTE]To Manonsanboy
The police in China is not the worst they just don't give a shit that is why thief and pick pocket are not afraid of them, they just pick on the poor and the out of town people but police in the Philippine and south america will prey
One tourist for shake down money that is how they make their money, even cop in the US is corupt and they make good money and have a very good retirement too.
Fast Eddie 48
I am a total noob at mongering and has never been to DG. I been just reading these forums for long time and I finally have opportunity to visit HK on April. My mandarin is very poor and will be traveling alone. I sooo envy you guys cause only thing I am able to do here in states is just watch porn and masterbate. Waahhhh sniff. Is it a bad idea for someone noobie like me to go dg? I want to have once in a lifetime KTV experiences. Is April bad time to goto DG due to canton fair? Do I only need to reserve hotel (thinking clippers hotel) or also need to reserve KTV room as well? Any advice will be grateful. Please please. I am hopeless! Is there tour guide available for noobies cause I don't want to KTV alone.
Thanks thanks thanks
Meiguoguizi
02-18-11, 12:13
I am a total noob at mongering and has never been to DG. I been just reading these forums for long timeIf you've read this thread for more than 15 minutes, you should already know the answers to your questions.
And, dude, please spell masturbate correctly. Respect.
Was at the sauna in Tangxia yesterday. Usual line up. Took a pretty one from Henan. In the room, she looked at me with a big grin. You do not know me? I looked at her; familar but no real recognition. Then she called me by my name. I looked at her again. Caddy, I asked? She smiled broadly.
Had a great session. Usual story; caddy is 2000-3000 a month. She needed more to get married. Was put up by a member of the golf club; did part time sauna work whilst the old chap was in HK. Got caught and thrown out of her room in Tangxia. Decided she still needed the money. Now earns about 8000-10000 a month. She gets 200-300 per customer. Maximum she did one day was 5. One of her regulars is the member who put her up. Go figure. Which sauna it was? I ask because I'm interested in if the goodview is in the business currently.
AF
If you've read this thread for more than 15 minutes, you should already know the answers to your questions.
And, dude, please spell masturbate correctly. Respect. .
So sorry. I really do respect. I did learn alot from reading these forums but few things I couldn't figure out. Could someone tell me which bus goes from CP to Zhuhai / Macau? Where do I purchase the ticket and ride this bus? Sorry my english sucks please don't be offended. Thanks if anyone can help. If I make it back to state I will definately post a full report.
ManonsanBoy
02-19-11, 01:26
Which sauna it was? I ask because I'm interested in if the goodview is in the business currently.
AFGoodview. Ask your mamasan for caddy from Henan.
SEAJoe,
Here all along I thought you just attracted all the girls by showing off your 29 year old body and flexing you 8 pack abdominal muscles. But now I see that you are a quite the gentlemen-taking girls to the clinic to get their venereal disease taken care of. Is that the key to your success?
Not do you only buy presents for them, you sponsor them and you take them to the medical clinics- We should nickname you "the savior."
AsnDragon.
IMHO. There are cures for stinky poo.
If it is just common bacteria that can also be at the armpit, the gal need to just use rubbing alcohol twice a day after showers and followed by just regular deodorant.
If on the other hand, there is the presence of a Venereal disease or another which causes such stinky poo, then there are specific antibiotics and / or suppositories etc they can take / use.
I of course am NOT a doctor etc and thus I've of course just taken SOME gals to the doctor to get them cleared up.
SEAJ
Goodview. Ask your mamasan for caddy from Henan.Thanks Man. Yeah, probably I'll try her. Before the last crackdown in Tangxia I had twice really cute girl from _ have no idea. Her number was 503 and was very GF. First time was sauna place and after that I decided to order her to my room next evening, great experience. I've not been there later so I'm not sure if she works yet.
But, the main advantage of goodview is guality, no doubt in this case. Rates are the another story.
What was your damage this days?
AF
ManonsanBoy,
Wow. 200-300 in Goodview Tangxia? I thought those rates were for Goodview in Zhangmutou or something. I thought that Tangxia Goodview was going high end for a while. Even at one point they offered bareback services where they supposedly checked if they had any STDs every day. (I personally think it's a very stupid thing to do to put customers and the girls at risk)
2000-3000 RMB a month sponsorship? Is Caddy not an attractive girl or something? What girl would accept that type of low sponsorship a month, unless this was many many years ago. I guess perhaps CP girls are just a bit too spoiled these days. 10, 000 to 20, 000 is expected from the really pretty ones. But for 2, 000 to 3, 000 RMB a month sponsorship? That's a bit too low. No wonder she was moonlighting on the side at a Sauna.
Hoe would you rate Caddy's looks, service and body?
Henan girls- I'm assuming are taller than average, which is a plus.
AsnDragon.
Was at the sauna in Tangxia yesterday. Usual line up. Took a pretty one from Henan. In the room, she looked at me with a big grin. You do not know me? I looked at her; familar but no real recognition. Then she called me by my name. I looked at her again. Caddy, I asked? She smiled broadly.
Had a great session. Usual story; caddy is 2000-3000 a month. She needed more to get married. Was put up by a member of the golf club; did part time sauna work whilst the old chap was in HK. Got caught and thrown out of her room in Tangxia. Decided she still needed the money. Now earns about 8000-10000 a month. She gets 200-300 per customer. Maximum she did one day was 5. One of her regulars is the member who put her up. Go figure.
ManonsanBoy,
Wow. 200-300 in Goodview Tangxia? 200. 300 is for her, not the customers total damage, I think.
But you probably know about this well.
AF
Guys,
I just have to tell you how much I miss the night market. From my last trip it seems they just moved to the Jun Hui. I'm not too sure what the situation is right now, but I'm assuming that the night market is still closed and will remain that way permanently.
I miss the good old days, when you go to the night market as a last resort to finding a girl late a night when all the BBS and Saunas and KTVs are all off work. Night Market represented the last call of the day. It was the one venue that truly made CP a almost 18 hour mongering destination.
I miss the excitement, the danger of wandering through that narrow street, viewing the girls but yet ever so vigilant of trouble makers and cops that will randomly patrol those streets from time to time- making the danger part of the excitement.
When the cops come by to patrol, the lively night market becomes a ghost town all of a sudden with those iron doors shut tight- girls hiding inside or dispersed away.
It's not everyday that you get to have a open nigh market, some days it's completely dead. Unlike a BBS where it's usually always open, Night Markets are unpredictable, which adds onto the novelty of the whole experience.
I've got some great girls at the NIght Market, many of whom have graduated to BBS and then to KTVs. Heck sometimes the KTV girls who don't get picked at the KTV go there as a last ditch effort to earn some money, so you end up getting a KTV girl for the price of 130 RMB? Truly a great value. In general Night Market girls give better service in my opinion. Sure quality of the girls are all over the place, but when you find a gem, it is that much more exciting than finding a gem in a BBS or KTV.
Night market girl's expectations are low and usually are more accommodating. Many times if you like them overnight prices are much lower than other venues out there, and most of the girls are nicer to you as they don't have to work into the late hours of the night and get to relax and spend the night with you. You see, for BBS girls and KTV girls they get paid more per pop, so they have every incentive to do as many pops before an overnight session. However, for a Night Market girl, they get paid so little that it's in their best interest to just do an overnight session with a guy, treat him nice and hope that he'll give a bigger tip.
The fact that it's kind of dangerous and there's no protection for the girl's safety at the night market makes them treat you better, in hopes you'll take them for an overnight. It's always better to earn less than to be taken away by the cops and have to pay a hefty bail expense.
I've found some true lookers at the Night Market. Now going to Jun Hui and seeing them in a pathetic room where girls are all stuffed in one room, is no different than going to Jia Mei Hotel.
I miss the night market. Is it ever going to come back?
AsnDragon
Big Swingin Dave
02-19-11, 09:57
Guys,
I just have to tell you how much I miss the night market. From my last trip it seems they just moved to the Jun Hui. I'm not too sure what the situation is right now, but I'm assuming that the night market is still closed and will remain that way permanently.
I miss the good old days, when you go to the night market as a last resort to finding a girl late a night when all the BBS and Saunas and KTVs are all off work. Night Market represented the last call of the day. It was the one venue that truly made CP a almost 18 hour mongering destination.
I miss the excitement, the danger of wandering through that narrow street, viewing the girls but yet ever so vigilant of trouble makers and cops that will randomly patrol those streets from time to time- making the danger part of the excitement.
When the cops come by to patrol, the lively night market becomes a ghost town all of a sudden with those iron doors shut tight- girls hiding inside or dispersed away.
It's not everyday that you get to have a open nigh market, some days it's completely dead. Unlike a BBS where it's usually always open, Night Markets are unpredictable, which adds onto the novelty of the whole experience.
I've got some great girls at the NIght Market, many of whom have graduated to BBS and then to KTVs. Heck sometimes the KTV girls who don't get picked at the KTV go there as a last ditch effort to earn some money, so you end up getting a KTV girl for the price of 130 RMB? Truly a great value. In general Night Market girls give better service in my opinion. Sure quality of the girls are all over the place, but when you find a gem, it is that much more exciting than finding a gem in a BBS or KTV.
Night market girl's expectations are low and usually are more accommodating. Many times if you like them overnight prices are much lower than other venues out there, and most of the girls are nicer to you as they don't have to work into the late hours of the night and get to relax and spend the night with you. You see, for BBS girls and KTV girls they get paid more per pop, so they have every incentive to do as many pops before an overnight session. However, for a Night Market girl, they get paid so little that it's in their best interest to just do an overnight session with a guy, treat him nice and hope that he'll give a bigger tip.
The fact that it's kind of dangerous and there's no protection for the girl's safety at the night market makes them treat you better, in hopes you'll take them for an overnight. It's always better to earn less than to be taken away by the cops and have to pay a hefty bail expense.
I've found some true lookers at the Night Market. Now going to Jun Hui and seeing them in a pathetic room where girls are all stuffed in one room, is no different than going to Jia Mei Hotel.
I miss the night market. Is it ever going to come back?
AsnDragonThe situation has not changed. Night Market is still closed and if you want girls between 12am. 6am, you can go to the Jun Hui Hotel. 3rd Floor. It has remained open but not many girls working yet. The Jun Hui mommy told me that they don't expect to go back to Dong Xing San Jie (old Night Market location) in the near future.
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
02-19-11, 18:22
The Canton Fair is fast approaching and has been for the past few years, it inevitably affects CP one way or another. The hotels are full from Thursay through Sunday with most hotel charging a surcharge of about 30RMB in the past. Also, the KTVs, Saunas, and BBS will be quite busy during this time. It is highly recommended that for those that planning to visit before, during, or after the Canton Fair to especially book your hotel rooms in advance. The Clipper has told me today that they have not yet decided whether they will increase the rate or not and advised me to make the reservations as soon as possible and lock in the rate before the surcharge is applied.
The schedule for the fair is as follows:
Phase 1: April 15. 19, 2011 9:30. 18:00.
Phase 2: April 23. 27, 2011 9:30. 18:00.
Phase 3: May 1. May 5, 2011 9:30. 18:00.
BSD
The situation has not changed. Night Market is still closed and if you want girls between 12am. 6am, you can go to the Jun Hui Hotel. 3rd Floor.
BSDWhere is Jun Hui Hotel located? What are some of the other landmarks that are near this hotel? Thanks.
Hi all.
I will be in HK next month, Sat 26 Mar.
I thought about trying the Macau Saunas (prob 18) having only tried SW and Lisboa Racetrack in the past. But I heard it is not fun during weekends. Hence considering CP which I have heard so much about.
I have RTFF, but I could still do with a wingman or guide as my mandarin skills are non-existent. Happy to contribute or subsidise the party within reason.
Please feel free to PM me.
Thanks
The situation has not changed. Night Market is still closed and if you want girls between 12am. 6am, you can go to the Jun Hui Hotel. 3rd Floor. It has remained open but not many girls working yet. The Jun Hui mommy told me that they don't expect to go back to Dong Xing San Jie (old Night Market location) in the near future.
BSDThat is a shame. It would be nice if once the warmth comes back they move back there. I can see it not being good when it is cold out there. But when the hotel doesn't have a / see on and the warmth comes back maybe it will shift back there. Although the legal issues are probably much less where they are.
Big Swingin Dave
02-20-11, 17:53
Where is Jun Hui Hotel located? What are some of the other landmarks that are near this hotel? Thanks.The Jun Hui Hotel is located across from the Manhattan Apartments and next to the newly opened 18 Palace Bar on Swan Lake Road&12290;
BSD
ManonsanBoy
02-20-11, 22:45
ManonsanBoy,
Hoe would you rate Caddy's looks, service and body?
Henan girls- I'm assuming are taller than average, which is a plus.
AsnDragon. She was earning 2000-3000 as a caddy. The girls in Goodview get 200-300 per customer in pocket because they pay varying amounts a month to mamasan. Right now, I suspect she would be servicing 3-5 customers per day (it is very busy@saunas in Tangxia at present. I guess taking into account off days (5 per month) , raids, mamasans' cut etc, the girls earn 10-15000 a month. Plus the usual lying, I guess she may be earning 20, 000 a month, tops. The really top ones who command 1000 obviously earn more.
I chatted with another girl once who said she served 67 clients the preceding month.
The caddy says some from Hong Kong often give more than the rack price after good service.
This girl did say she will have enough to go back and marry after this year but needs a job at home also there; she is accumulating a nest egg.
William Saw
02-21-11, 07:47
Arriving chong pang on the 24 March 2011 return Singapore on the 29 March 2011 this is 2nd second trip my first strip stayed at hua mei hotel spent most the time doing the KTV and picking up the gals there. This trip I want to go out to find a place to drink like a pub where you meet chat make friends with gals and do the thing. Being a Singapore Chinese of the older generation the Chinese language is not that good english no problem read somthing about the swan lake is that a good place any advise appreciated if you going to batam indonesia need advised no problem.
Thanks in advance
Hi hobbyists,
Has anyone been to HaiXia in CP? Was there last night, no bad, reasonable price, got pretty high mileage on the talents. Wondering if any seasoned hobbyists been there and share their experience.
Cheers,
Staid Lo
Transporter
02-22-11, 00:49
Tried a new place same MO as jin di li.
Closer to the action, cheaper, and less busy.
I know this is unrelated but does anyone have any information on places in CP where I can learn Japanese?
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
Sauce
SE Asia Joe
02-22-11, 04:53
Tried a new place same MO as jin di li.
Closer to the action, cheaper, and less busy. Besides Chaperone and Jindili?
SEAJ
I was in CP for two nights right after CNY. Very slim picking in KTV (fuhao and may flower) and BBS. BBS almost an empty room with girls getting snatched up by punters.
Clipper jacked up the price for normal room and it is pretty much highway robbery. Only reason I'll stay there again is the location, close to two clusters of BBS and walking distance to May flower and Manhattan.
Cheers
Does anyone know of a place here that has girls available for anal? I don't mind if the fee is more as long as it's on the menu.
I know this is unrelated but does anyone have any information on places in CP where I can learn Japanese?
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
SauceI don't know of any there but quite a few exist in Guangzhou. I can get you some contacts if you want.
ManonsanBoy,
Wow. 200-300 in Goodview Tangxia? I thought those rates were for Goodview in Zhangmutou or something. I thought that Tangxia Goodview was going high end for a while. Even at one point they offered bareback services where they supposedly checked if they had any STDs every day. (I personally think it's a very stupid thing to do to put customers and the girls at risk)
2000-3000 RMB a month sponsorship? Is Caddy not an attractive girl or something? What girl would accept that type of low sponsorship a month, unless this was many many years ago. I guess perhaps CP girls are just a bit too spoiled these days. 10, 000 to 20, 000 is expected from the really pretty ones. But for 2, 000 to 3, 000 RMB a month sponsorship? That's a bit too low. No wonder she was moonlighting on the side at a Sauna.
Hoe would you rate Caddy's looks, service and body?
Henan girls- I'm assuming are taller than average, which is a plus.
AsnDragon. I've had several sauna girls tell me a condom wasn't required. Had one that gave me a covered BJ and then turned around to prepare for doggy. Before guiding me in she pulled the condom off saying she doesn't like the way it feels. So in short guys. Cover UP!
I've had several sauna girls tell me a condom wasn't required. Had one that gave me a covered BJ and then turned around to prepare for doggy. Before guiding me in she pulled the condom off saying she doesn't like the way it feels. So in short guys. Cover UP!What the f___ is going on with them. It's insane to go bareback, even for ths girls. Why they don't care about their own health? I'm not even talking about the customers.
AF
Transporter
02-24-11, 01:35
Does anyone know of a place here that has girls available for anal? I don't mind if the fee is more as long as it's on the menu.Yes there is a sauna that specialize in back door service.
They have a special "swat team" line up that does back door service.
However, you might want to upgrade to become a senior member.
And yes the extra fee is 100rmb
Cunning Linguist
02-24-11, 01:36
I was in CP for two nights right after CNY. Very slim picking in KTV (fuhao and may flower) and BBS. BBS almost an empty room with girls getting snatched up by punters.
Clipper jacked up the price for normal room and it is pretty much highway robbery. Only reason I'll stay there again is the location, close to two clusters of BBS and walking distance to May flower and Manhattan.
CheersHi, how much is it now? Is this for the season or for all year round. I really liked the Clipper. I really miss the BBSes as well as guys like Big Swinging Dave and Bruce Tea among others.
I was in CP for two nights right after CNY. Very slim picking in KTV (fuhao and may flower) and BBS. BBS almost an empty room with girls getting snatched up by punters.
Clipper jacked up the price for normal room and it is pretty much highway robbery. Only reason I'll stay there again is the location, close to two clusters of BBS and walking distance to May flower and Manhattan.
CheersIn the past in CP during CNY, the BBS and some KTV jack up the prices because there wasn't enough girls. During CNY most BBS try 250 when it normally only 200RMB ST. The ones that are normally 150 will try for 200. Some KTV's will jack up the rooms rate. Some hotels, will raise they rate for a few days.
YO, PM me regarding this joint. Would like to try it out.
Yes there is a sauna that specialize in back door service.
They have a special "swat team" line up that does back door service.
However, you might want to upgrade to become a senior member.
And yes the extra fee is 100rmb
In the past in CP during CNY, the BBS and some KTV jack up the prices because there wasn't enough girls. During CNY most BBS try 250 when it normally only 200RMB ST. The ones that are normally 150 will try for 200. Some KTV's will jack up the rooms rate. Some hotels, will raise they rate for a few days.Definitely getting "jacked" by the BBS. But what the hell! The girls were fun and I had a good time.
Hi, how much is it now? Is this for the season or for all year round. I really liked the Clipper. I really miss the BBSes as well as guys like Big Swinging Dave and Bruce Tea among others.The regular room is like 300ish. I don't know if that was just during CNY. I like the clipper but it may be time to try something else. I was told there's new 5 stars call yihao or something. Kind of out of the way but nicer everything, when compares to clipper.
IMHO. There are cures for stinky poo.
If it is just common bacteria that can also be at the armpit, the gal need to just use rubbing alcohol twice a day after showers and followed by just regular deodorant.
If on the other hand, there is the presence of a Venereal disease or another which causes such stinky poo, then there are specific antibiotics and / or suppositories etc they can take / use.
I of course am NOT a doctor etc and thus I've of course just taken SOME gals to the doctor to get them cleared up.
SEAJHad four girls in my short stay in CP and I think all of them had this stinky problem. Too many unpleasant possibilities went through my mind as I was doing them. Not to mention a complete turn off. I really don't know what else one can do. The girls certainly clean their pussies thoroughly.
SE Asia Joe
02-24-11, 13:52
Had four girls in my short stay in CP and I think all of them had this stinky problem. Too many unpleasant possibilities went through my mind as I was doing them. Not to mention a complete turn off. I really don't know what else one can do. The girls certainly clean their pussies thoroughly.4 Gals and all of them had stinky Pussy?
Oh MY!
And here I was complaining about my run of stinky ones prior to the Chinese New Year?
But I also see from your rpevious posting that you had a good time. So I guess all's not Lost!
BTW. On the YiHao. Yes, that is the newest hotel. But its close to the Train Station and at the locale of the wholesale fruit market; I'd opine a real crap location that is pretty far from all the action. If what you're after is the 5 star luxury etc with no regards to locale, you should isntead just go for the Miraton, Hui Hua or even the EuroAsia. And if location is what's important, you may instead want to try the Lihao (next to Meibao sauna) or the Swan Lake hotel. As they're reasonable for the price and location. Just a suggestion.
SEAJ
Yes there is a sauna that specialize in back door service.
They have a special "swat team" line up that does back door service.
However, you might want to upgrade to become a senior member.
And yes the extra fee is 100rmbSo can you share the name of the place? I can't upgrade to senior member status at the drop of a hat but that doesn't mean I don't have useful information to share or that I shouldn't be allowed benefit from the forum. If you know a place then share. Others want to know too.
Definitely getting "jacked" by the BBS. But what the hell! The girls were fun and I had a good time.How much did they ask at the BBS?
how much did they ask at the bbs?300 st. 600 lt
4 Gals and all of them had stinky Pussy?
Oh MY!
And here I was complaining about my run of stinky ones prior to the Chinese New Year?
But I also see from your rpevious posting that you had a good time. So I guess all's not Lost!
BTW. On the YiHao. Yes, that is the newest hotel. But its close to the Train Station and at the locale of the wholesale fruit market; I'd opine a real crap location that is pretty far from all the action. If what you're after is the 5 star luxury etc with no regards to locale, you should isntead just go for the Miraton, Hui Hua or even the EuroAsia. And if location is what's important, you may instead want to try the Lihao (next to Meibao sauna) or the Swan Lake hotel. As they're reasonable for the price and location. Just a suggestion.
SEAJIt is all the mind the Joe. I just pretended I was in a happier place (kind of what CP is supposed to be about) and get it done quickly. Sigh! I guess we should start writing reports with this in mind. Is the girl stinky?
Thanks for the suggestion on the hotel. Yihao sounds good and may be worth it since it is / was offering a discount. Cheers
Sardaukar1
02-25-11, 04:15
I know this is unrelated but does anyone have any information on places in CP where I can learn Japanese?
Any info would be greatly appreciated!
SauceLmao. WTF?
So can you share the name of the place? I can't upgrade to senior member status at the drop of a hat but that doesn't mean I don't have useful information to share or that I shouldn't be allowed benefit from the forum. If you know a place then share. Others want to know too.How does one get to senior member actually?
StinkyFeet
02-25-11, 04:59
I got a quote for that amount from an insane hot girl. I am tempted since I have the money. But I know for two weeks in dong guan. I can go much cheaper and with a lot of different girls. The quality will be lower then the other girls in my opinion since I had the opportunity to romp with her at Rio sauna two years ago (she only lasted a month in macao) and ever since then I have not seen a girl anywhere of her caliber. I would have to fly her in from harbin though. Very pretty face. 5'3, slender, tiny hands, sz 4 feet, white unblemished skin. 4-5 strands of pub hair, and D cups with negative sag.
She knows she's hot and her chats with her confirmed this. That price is the negotiated price already. What should I do?
Fast Eddie 48
02-25-11, 05:21
I got a quote for that amount from an insane hot girl. I am tempted since I have the money. But I know for two weeks in dong guan. I can go much cheaper and with a lot of different girls. The quality will be lower then the other girls in my opinion since I had the opportunity to romp with her at Rio sauna two years ago (she only lasted a month in macao) and ever since then I have not seen a girl anywhere of her caliber. I would have to fly her in from harbin though. Very pretty face. 5'3, slender, tiny hands, sz 4 feet, white unblemished skin. 4-5 strands of pub hair, and D cups with negative sag.
She knows she's hot and her chats with her confirmed this. That price is the negotiated price already. What should I do?To Stinky,
Even if you have the money that is a large amount don't care how good looking she is, there are so many girl to sample in China why spend 2 week with one girl she could be a nut case, I once have a hot model in Shanghai she is a stunner 5"8 a tall one 2000 rmb a night paid by my customer, best eye candy I ever have in my life but service is just ok a bit of attiude.
Fast Eddie 48
Bigboobman007
02-25-11, 08:18
I got a quote for that amount from an insane hot girl. I am tempted since I have the money. But I know for two weeks in dong guan. I can go much cheaper and with a lot of different girls. The quality will be lower then the other girls in my opinion since I had the opportunity to romp with her at Rio sauna two years ago (she only lasted a month in macao) and ever since then I have not seen a girl anywhere of her caliber. I would have to fly her in from harbin though. Very pretty face. 5'3, slender, tiny hands, sz 4 feet, white unblemished skin. 4-5 strands of pub hair, and D cups with negative sag.
She knows she's hot and her chats with her confirmed this. That price is the negotiated price already. What should I do? Please tell me her tits are natural. If so, you have just described an angel. Care to share her photo? Or share her contact or qq to me? Trying my luck. I had a girl like that in CA sauna. I repeated at least 10 times. She's cat 800 and that's expensive for sauna in DG. She went back for good before Chinese New Year to Xi An and will never come back. We talk on qq all the time and I am still trying to get her to agree to meet me. She wouldn't meet even if I fly there.
That kinda girl is a gem and so difficult to find. My suggestion is spend shorter time. 2 weeks is too long. You'll need time to recover anyways. Mix and match bro. I could share the bill. Still trying.
SE Asia Joe
02-25-11, 08:37
I got a quote for that amount from an insane hot girl. I am tempted since I have the money. But I know for two weeks in dong guan. I can go much cheaper and with a lot of different girls. The quality will be lower then the other girls in my opinion since I had the opportunity to romp with her at Rio sauna two years ago (she only lasted a month in macao) and ever since then I have not seen a girl anywhere of her caliber. I would have to fly her in from harbin though. Very pretty face. 5'3, slender, tiny hands, sz 4 feet, white unblemished skin. 4-5 strands of pub hair, and D cups with negative sag.
She knows she's hot and her chats with her confirmed this. That price is the negotiated price already. What should I do? That you need to actually post this and ask. I really think you already know the answer!
LMAO!
SEAJ
StinkyFeet
02-25-11, 19:23
That kinda girl is a gem and so difficult to find. My suggestion is spend shorter time. 2 weeks is too long. You'll need time to recover anyways. Mix and match bro. I could share the bill. Still trying.There natural. I did my tour of seoul. So I consider myself an expert in implants. If I take her up on her offer she more or less will be "exclusive". But here's what I can advise though. I visited East Spa in macao in January. There's a Sichuan girl name Nana. She works part time, though. When I was there. She told me she's retiring from that type of work in March-April. She's not as cute but still very pretty. Same type of awesome body. Full C cups on her with hardly and hair down there. She's an awesome performer. She was all business with me when I tried to get on a more personal level. So I didn't click with her as much as this girl. Anyway. She's one of the top girls there and is very popular with the high rollers. There's also another girl in Houjie working at a high end KTV. She's got natural D's. Cute face. Nice skin. Crazy tall. She's 5'10. She sucks in bed but pleasant to chat with. She's popular as well but she's choosy. Good luck.
Bigboobman,
Ok to show you that we are bros, I'll split the bill with you as well. So for 20, 000 RMB, we'll do it three ways for 3, 000 RMB. Us three get 4 days each. Also, BigBoobman, because I'm sharing the bill with you, could I at least have a few nights with your Awesome CA sauna girl you brought to CP last time? I'm still drooling!
When you going to be in CP next?
AsnDragon.
Please tell me her tits are natural. If so, you have just described an angel. Care to share her photo? Or share her contact or qq to me? Trying my luck. I had a girl like that in CA sauna. I repeated at least 10 times. She's cat 800 and that's expensive for sauna in DG. She went back for good before Chinese New Year to Xi An and will never come back. We talk on qq all the time and I am still trying to get her to agree to meet me. She wouldn't meet even if I fly there.
That kinda girl is a gem and so difficult to find. My suggestion is spend shorter time. 2 weeks is too long. You'll need time to recover anyways. Mix and match bro. I could share the bill. Still trying.
SEAJoe,
Actually. I would like to know what your answer is. I know you'll say hell no, since you can get pretty much any girl with your blond hair and 29 year old body, but if it was a girl of your dreams wouldn't you be tempted?
Sure 20, 000 RMB is a whole lot of money. But back in your days of romancing all of them girls, especially Jiangxi ones, I'm sure treating them to eat dinner, buying them presents here and there and also footing the bill of all things small and large it could potentially add up to be around 20, 000. Once again. It's a big "could"
Honestly, in my younger days, I've done some pretty stupid things, where I have spent about that much money within a 2 week period trying to pursue one particular girl. Oh how I was so Young and inexperienced.
AsnDragon.
That you need to actually post this and ask. I really think you already know the answer!
LMAO!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
02-26-11, 06:43
SEAJoe,
Actually. I would like to know what your answer is. I know you'll say hell no, since you can get pretty much any girl with your blond hair and 29 year old body, but if it was a girl of your dreams wouldn't you be tempted?
Sure 20, 000 RMB is a whole lot of money. But back in your days of romancing all of them girls, especially Jiangxi ones, I'm sure treating them to eat dinner, buying them presents here and there and also footing the bill of all things small and large it could potentially add up to be around 20, 000. Once again. It's a big "could"
Honestly, in my younger days, I've done some pretty stupid things, where I have spent about that much money within a 2 week period trying to pursue one particular girl. Oh how I was so Young and inexperienced.
AsnDragon. LOL! Actuallly. I was just "fishing" for what it is that our friend have actually decided!
OK. What I think.
DISASTER EITHER WAY!
The 20K spent results in a dream 2 weeks. So what happens after THAT?
Longing, heart break, forced separation OR Sunk Ship and the 20K becomes BASE salary for. How many more years?
Or more likely. 20k committed and after the first couple days and what. 5,6. 8 or HOW MANY (?) pops. Fatigue sets in, boredom de-riguer for repeated acts with same gal (how many times does one need to go to Morton's or Fook Lam Moon before it all become Blase?) , again disaaster!
Just IMHO. With all my tongue in my cheek!
SEAJ
LOL! Actuallly. I was just "fishing" for what it is that our friend have actually decided!
OK. What I think.
DISASTER EITHER WAY!
The 20K spent results in a dream 2 weeks. So what happens after THAT?
Longing, heart break, forced separation OR Sunk Ship and the 20K becomes BASE salary for. How many more years?
Or more likely. 20k committed and after the first couple days and what. 5,6. 8 or HOW MANY (?) pops. Fatigue sets in, boredom de-riguer for repeated acts with same gal (how many times does one need to go to Morton's or Fook Lam Moon before it all become Blase?) , again disaaster!
Just IMHO. With all my tongue in my cheek!
SEAJI agree with the blond god! Too much money involved to get a girl and for too long time. I prefer the short period ones where no deep emotions are involved.
Anyways went to Hui Mei to get a massage. Didn't know they offered FS but apparently they do. I thought it was only massage with HE. What is included: shower, steam room, massage, BBBJ and the deed.
The girl I chose had natural D, was not that tall 5'4" from Hunan. She was not that pretty but very GFE. Normally you get one pop but with me she agreed to 2 (saying like: whatever you say counts, so perhaps I could have more?).
Looks: 6.
Performance: 8.
To me she was GFE.
Number: didn't ask
StinkyFeet
02-26-11, 19:21
DISASTER EITHER WAY!I have the same exactly sentiments. I have been searching for this girl for a long time (with a lot of enjoyable events in between) since she's crazy hot and my time with her was off the charts. Interesting enough. I was about to post her photo then mr. Ethical started to whisper to me. So I asked if I can show her photos to my "friends". She said no in capitals. Oh well. She did cut the quoted fee in half though. She felt bad for asking so much. Who knows. Heilongjiang girls are known to be aggressive.
Big Swingin Dave
02-26-11, 21:00
I knew this weekend is going to be crazy on Monday earlier this week when I was trying to reserve an hotel room for Santa at Swan Lake and they told me that they only had computer rooms at 258 per night available. On Tuesday, when I tried to make reservations for the weekend at the Clipper hotel, it was already all full through Sunday. These kinds of things don't happen until usually on Thursday or Friday on a normal week in CP but like a fellow monger said to me earlier today, this weekend was like the "perfect-storm" of mongers in CP.
This weekend was the third weekend after Chinese New Year, so with the girls almost fully rolling back into town and a bunch of pent up horny guys waiting to shoot off their first shot of "fire-works" for the new year, yesterday (Friday) at FuHao and today at Mayflower was pure bedlam. Today I was told Mayflower had a pre-reservation of 200 rooms. Well for those of you that has been to Mayflower knows that there are only 138 rooms there but they were so busy, they booked another 62+ rooms at Tao Yuan (TY is only opened on Friday or Saturdays when the Mayflower has been fully booked). So when you do the math (say there is a per room average of 6 guys in a KTV room x 200 = 1, 200) , even with a 1, 000+ girl working on Friday / Saturday nights, it is still not enough girls to go around. Frankly, I have never seen so many crazed looking horny guys in one place ever. Tonight was the first time when the girls are picking which guy they would like to go with and even the worst of the worst girl are snatched up by 6:30pm.
Additionally, we were at HuiHua and HuiMei Sauna between 2pm to 3pm and only saw a total of 2 girls in one hour. When I called the Virgin, I was strongly advised not to come as there were a crowd of over 50 guys waiting for a room to view the line-up then at 5pm, I called the Virgin again and again was told that there were still 20 guys waiting for a room. This is insane and madness and needless to say. Extremely frustrating!
Well with the look of things to come, CP can only get worse with the Canton Fair fast approaching in about a month and a half, anyone looking to come to CP should book their hotel and KTV reservations early.
BSD
Cunning Linguist
02-26-11, 23:02
Hello, out there. As some of you might know, I was in CP in August and September and got to meet many of you (Big Swinging Dave, Southeast Asia Joe, LA Monkey, Menguozhui (or whatever) , etc.). I also met an ISG member who goes by Pigfat. He is, or was, a nice Australian but I have not heard anything from him for months. Have any of you seen him lately? His life seemed to be falling apart, in some ways, he might even be in danger from what he wrote me a few months ago in a PM.
If any of you know anything about him, please PM me.
Thanks
Transporter
02-27-11, 01:42
The regular room is like 300ish. I don't know if that was just during CNY. I like the clipper but it may be time to try something else. I was told there's new 5 stars call yihao or something. Kind of out of the way but nicer everything, when compares to clipper.You can try it now, they have a grand opening special I can't remember the exact price but I think it was 27. Two seventy something. Don't know how long the special is going to last.
I have the same exactly sentiments. I have been searching for this girl for a long time (with a lot of enjoyable events in between) since she's crazy hot and my time with her was off the charts. Interesting enough. I was about to post her photo then mr. Ethical started to whisper to me. So I asked if I can show her photos to my "friends". She said no in capitals. Oh well. She did cut the quoted fee in half though. She felt bad for asking so much. Who knows. Heilongjiang girls are known to be aggressive.
HEY! I was going to suggest negotiate and 10k for 2 weeks isn't that bad but you will have to fly her in so count on that. Would I do it? Probably if she is that hot and that much of a cup of tea, else you'll be doing some KTV girl thinking of her. Figure if you are saving from going to KTV (300-400 / night) plus sitting two girls (400-600) that is 1k a night so why not spend on someone you know will be fun. Too bad this board doesn't have rating for photos so you could share with senior members.
And 10k isn't too bad for 2 weeks a KTV girl I know got offered 10k a week around cny to go somewhere and ticket was paid for. The guy did hold her I'd though so she wouldn't leave (you might want to consider this if she wants money first.)
You only live once. No regrets right?
Freepeaks,
So what you think, would you pay 10K for your "rockstar" for 2 weeks?
Honestly, she would have to be incredibly hot with major GFE in order for me to pay that kind of price.
AsnDragon.
HEY! I was going to suggest negotiate and 10k for 2 weeks isn't that bad but you will have to fly her in so count on that. Would I do it? Probably if she is that hot and that much of a cup of tea, else you'll be doing some KTV girl thinking of her. Figure if you are saving from going to KTV (300-400 / night) plus sitting two girls (400-600) that is 1k a night so why not spend on someone you know will be fun. Too bad this board doesn't have rating for photos so you could share with senior members.
And 10k isn't too bad for 2 weeks a KTV girl I know got offered 10k a week around cny to go somewhere and ticket was paid for. The guy did hold her I'd though so she wouldn't leave (you might want to consider this if she wants money first.)
You only live once. No regrets right?
I guess the advantages of Yihao is you'll be close enough to the fruit market to walk out and get a midnight snack. But I don't know about living in a hotel situated right next to that disgusting smelly river sewage to the left of the hotel.
But as BSD states, with hotels being booked so quickly, and a stampede of horny guys swarming CP, I think all hotels in CP have to be considered when all the popular hotels are fully booked.
AsnDragon.
You can try it now, they have a grand opening special I can't remember the exact price but I think it was 27. Two seventy something. Don't know how long the special is going to last.
BSD,
Wow, that's a lot of guys. It's a pretty amazing sight to see that all the girls in Mayflower being snatched up by customers by 6:30 pm. There must be like a huge pipe clog in all of these guys.
Glad to hear that the girls are all fully stocked now. How are the BBS? Are they back to normal? Once CP is back to normal, I got to talk to my local travel agent.
Hopefully all of this overflow of guys will die down after a while. But do you think that perhaps there isn't enough girls to come around, that all not all the girls have come back to CP to work yet and they are still back home relaxing?
If Swan is charging 258 RMB, what is Clipper Charging? Craziness!
AsnDragon.
I knew this weekend is going to be crazy on Monday earlier this week when I was trying to reserve an hotel room for Santa at Swan Lake and they told me that they only had computer rooms at 258 per night available. On Tuesday, when I tried to make reservations for the weekend at the Clipper hotel, it was already all full through Sunday. These kinds of things don't happen until usually on Thursday or Friday on a normal week in CP but like a fellow monger said to me earlier today, this weekend was like the "perfect-storm" of mongers in CP.
This weekend was the third weekend after Chinese New Year, so with the girls almost fully rolling back into town and a bunch of pent up horny guys waiting to shoot off their first shot of "fire-works" for the new year, yesterday (Friday) at FuHao and today at Mayflower was pure bedlam. Today I was told Mayflower had a pre-reservation of 200 rooms. Well for those of you that has been to Mayflower knows that there are only 138 rooms there but they were so busy, they booked another 62+ rooms at Tao Yuan (TY is only opened on Friday or Saturdays when the Mayflower has been fully booked). So when you do the math (say there is a per room average of 6 guys in a KTV room x 200 = 1, 200) , even with a 1, 000+ girl working on Friday / Saturday nights, it is still not enough girls to go around. Frankly, I have never seen so many crazed looking horny guys in one place ever. Tonight was the first time when the girls are picking which guy they would like to go with and even the worst of the worst girl are snatched up by 6:30pm.
Additionally, we were at HuiHua and HuiMei Sauna between 2pm to 3pm and only saw a total of 2 girls in one hour. When I called the Virgin, I was strongly advised not to come as there were a crowd of over 50 guys waiting for a room to view the line-up then at 5pm, I called the Virgin again and again was told that there were still 20 guys waiting for a room. This is insane and madness and needless to say. Extremely frustrating!
Well with the look of things to come, CP can only get worse with the Canton Fair fast approaching in about a month and a half, anyone looking to come to CP should book their hotel and KTV reservations early.
BSD
SEAJoe,
Well you do have a point where 20K seems rather steep and you do get bored easily. But now the price tag has been lowered to 10K now. Would you do it now?
You mentioned that 20K for a "dream" for two weeks. But I must point out that being in CP is a "dream" in itself. When we step off of the train and step into CP soil, we being our fantasy or dream. Nothing in CP is really real. It's just a escape from the every day reality of life. I see every brother go to CP to escape their problems to live in a fantasy land to lessen the harsh realities of their lives. So in all reality there are many brothers that end up spending more than 20K by the end of their stay in CP. I think we all come to buy ourselves a "dream"
For some people it's harder to separate what is real and what is not. WE still hold onto the "dream" as if it were real, but it nevertheless disappears like bubbles. Whether it be 20K or 50K for two weeks, it doesn't matter- do whatever floats your boat. If you are into GFE go for it, but if you are into variety then spread our funds out to experience new girls at a KTV. But in the end our money in our wallets will be empty after our trip to CP- every time, so just enjoy.
AsnDragon.
LOL! Actuallly. I was just "fishing" for what it is that our friend have actually decided!
OK. What I think.
DISASTER EITHER WAY!
The 20K spent results in a dream 2 weeks. So what happens after THAT?
Longing, heart break, forced separation OR Sunk Ship and the 20K becomes BASE salary for. How many more years?
Or more likely. 20k committed and after the first couple days and what. 5,6. 8 or HOW MANY (?) pops. Fatigue sets in, boredom de-riguer for repeated acts with same gal (how many times does one need to go to Morton's or Fook Lam Moon before it all become Blase?) , again disaaster!
Just IMHO. With all my tongue in my cheek!
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
02-28-11, 05:06
SEAJoe,
Well you do have a point where 20K seems rather steep and you do get bored easily. But now the price tag has been lowered to 10K now. Would you do it now?
You mentioned that 20K for a "dream" for two weeks. But I must point out that being in CP is a "dream" in itself. When we step off of the train and step into CP soil, we being our fantasy or dream. Nothing in CP is really real. It's just a escape from the every day reality of life. I see every brother go to CP to escape their problems to live in a fantasy land to lessen the harsh realities of their lives. So in all reality there are many brothers that end up spending more than 20K by the end of their stay in CP. I think we all come to buy ourselves a "dream"
For some people it's harder to separate what is real and what is not. WE still hold onto the "dream" as if it were real, but it nevertheless disappears like bubbles. Whether it be 20K or 50K for two weeks, it doesn't matter- do whatever floats your boat. If you are into GFE go for it, but if you are into variety then spread our funds out to experience new girls at a KTV. But in the end our money in our wallets will be empty after our trip to CP- every time, so just enjoy.
AsnDragon. Actually, I don't think the absolute amount of money is the deal breaker as different amounts means different things to each of us.
The deal breaker for me is the danger of actually having his boat sunk; I have always been a proponent of going all goo-goo in love with gals I like. BUT. And this is a big but, to ALWAYS KNOW at the back of my head that it is after all a paid relationship and not be under any illusions that it's nothing more than that. Whilst I love all the bells and jingles of being in love, I (and I'd think most of us) really cannot afford to actually fall in love with a WG. Not in terms of $$ only, but more so, in terms of "emotions." Learned it the hard way several times in my life. But even I keep on repeating this mistake as these gals ARE just so nice!
So Stinky feet. RMB 20 or 10 or whatever is ONLY the down payment. The mortgage payments are onerous. And many times too long lasting. Yes, totally your kind of gal, totally what you really are after in a girl. But that's all the more reason to stay away from the arrangement. Just too fraught with too many hidden dangers methinks PLUS the very real pssibility that 2 weeks is gonna drag out when you become bored. After all, there's just too many other fish in the CP ocean.
You've had her before and its usually best to leave such good memories to regaling others with such tales when one grows old>
Stay grounded my friend!
SEAJ
Freepeaks,
So what you think, would you pay 10K for your "rockstar" for 2 weeks?
Honestly, she would have to be incredibly hot with major GFE in order for me to pay that kind of price.
AsnDragon. You know I would if I had her playing a true GFE. Note I say playing as we know this is a service. Some girls are just like that worth the money, but would I be bored after a week? Maybe.
I have had the same girl 7 days straight in CP as have others of us and at 8-10 a night you are in that range for two weeks anyway. Again whatever floats your boat, so I say go for it. It seems he has a QQ relationship with her so something above the wham bam. and if he has a dream 2 weeks, and doesn't fall into the sugar daddy trap then good for him.
Given girls like that get 1k at KTV a night that is a 30% discount. Hell Eurasia is at 3/7/10 for most of the girls.
At one point I know rockstar was getting 30k a month from an mala punter.
Big Swingin Dave
02-28-11, 09:27
BSD,
Wow, that's a lot of guys. It's a pretty amazing sight to see that all the girls in Mayflower being snatched up by customers by 6:30 pm. There must be like a huge pipe clog in all of these guys.
Glad to hear that the girls are all fully stocked now. How are the BBS? Are they back to normal? Once CP is back to normal, I got to talk to my local travel agent.
Hopefully all of this overflow of guys will die down after a while. But do you think that perhaps there isn't enough girls to come around, that all not all the girls have come back to CP to work yet and they are still back home relaxing?
If Swan is charging 258 RMB, what is Clipper Charging? Craziness!
AsnDragon. Saturday was not the case of not enough girls but really too many guys. Mayflower over-booked by 68 rooms and having the same number of working girls then it appeared that there were not enough girls for everyone. My parties got moved over to Tao Yuan. Luckily, I had the guys there early and they were all able to find 1 to 2 girls each (10 guys total. 2 rooms) but there was one room that had 15 guys and 4 girls. Yikes!
BBS is almost back to normal, the good thing is there is a lot of new talent. But an expert like you knows that the new talent comes with so so service, it's always hit or miss anyways but definitely seem some quality gems out there.
As of March 1st, Swan Lake will raise their prices to 218 for Building A rooms (no internet) and 248 for Building B rooms including internet. Computer / Deluxe room will be 278.
Clipper rooms are 298 weekdays (Sun-Thurs) /338 weekends (Fri / Sat) ; Computer / Steam rooms are 328/358.
Price hikes are going on at practically every hotel in CP. Weekend rooms are all booked up by Wednesday of each week so I advise that everyone to book their rooms as soon as possible to lock in the rate and availabiliity; otherwise, like 4 of customers last Saturday, they have to settle at lower class hotels which is not too pleasant.
BSD
Had a great weekend where I met some ISG members for dinner and a drink. Met up with Dave, Jettsetter, SEAjoe and some other friends. No partying, just a chill dinner (awesome fried chicken place) and a couple of beers later on. It was def great to finally meet some the members, and I'd like to thank you all for showin me a good time. I am definitely looking forward to this weekend when I will have my CP "cherry" popped. Who knew I was sitting on a goldmine for a yr haha. Thus the adventure begins for me. Lookin forward to partying with the ISG brothers and any other ISG members who stroll into town!
Happy hunting!
Sauce
Ready Rover
02-28-11, 16:58
3 great days in CP last week with BSD leading a posse of Forum Members. Hi to all, and thanks to the ones that really helped me. You know.
- Mayflower on Friday was busy but not jammed; RR Jr and I made an excellent selection without thinking: GFE all night, Good service with BBBJ followed by 2 late pops and one early one. But she was gone at 10AM and Jr wanted more. We spent the afternoon at Pozulim (hilarious, but frantic: ask MoMo or BSD) then off to Fuhao.
- Fuhao; Saturday. SEA Joe put in an appearance; hard to believe that a buff Scandinavian would hang out with us loosers, but he was a lot of fun. Regarding lady selection, we thought more; we got less. Very good GFE, but service was only average. Still, we've exchanged lots of SMS's since then, and will definitely meet again.
- Peninsula, Sunday. Expectations very low, mostly because I was totally drained. Sleep through the afternoon, then BSD calls and says let's go. He's like a shot of Red Bull, so we go. Selection is over by the time we get there, but he's saved me one, and arranged a lineup. Chose the prettiest face from the lineup, then spent more and more time with BSD's choice. Finish beers early, Hotpot with the gang, then back to the hotel. She spends an hour on QQ, then half an hour on me. Then another hour on QQ. Now I'm ready to sleep, but suddenly she wants to talk. Did manage the full 3 pops, but only by insisting on the last one. Learned later that her period started next day; would like to try again.
BSD assembled another great crew of buddies. Jr and I were Relaxed, Safe, and Secure despite very basic Chinese. We made good choices we will revisit, and poor ones that I will forget. If we knew, we should have stayed with Woman Friday. But no regrets. This is still the Place!
ManonsanBoy
02-28-11, 23:11
What is it about this year? Saunas and KTV in Tangxia are over run by horny guys according to mu sources.
StinkyFeet
03-01-11, 03:16
and doesn't fall into the sugar daddy trap then good for him.Sigh. I don't want to think about that. Whatever money is money.
I decided against my better judgement to attach a photo with mr. T guarding her. She has some nicer photos but for whatever reason she is hiding her best attributes in all of them. Perhaps she does have the photos but not posting it on her blog.
Another stupid hypothetical question.
Option A beautiful face, GFE, C / D cups, asian ass, fit like glove pussy that eventually loosens after several days.
Option B beautiful face, GFE, A / B cups, perfect ass, insane tight pussy that never loosens over a month time with constant banging.
147014
I recently attended Dave's KTV party at Fuhao. A few days later a taiwanese friend invited me to attend another KTV party at the Fuhao organised by the Lucky group.
A few months ago there was an attack on this thread by an associate of the Lucky group, accusing Dave of overcharging his customers. So I was interested to see for myself, to compare, and here is my report.
Arrived on Friday evening at Fuhao and Dave found me walking around in the lobby. He intruduced me to about 5 other guys. He knew there names. He strategically located his group to get first picks of the girls. He grabbed many girls as they came out and pushed them to the guys in his group saying "this one is nice, this one gives good service, this one is lots of fun," etc. He worked in the lobby to make sure all of his guys had girls.
In the room he explained options. He made sure everybody would sing, passing the microphones around and asking which songs do you want. He stayed with the group the entire evening encouraging the group to get up and dance and play dice, etc. He was always available for questions and translating. We had beer, enough for all I think.
Dave's party ended late and was fun. The cost was 320 rmb, unless you ordered extra snacks, then you pay more.
Sunday evening my friend and I arrived in the Fuhao Lobby. We found our ktv room, which was smaller than the room Dave used. There was no host to greet us and so we introduced ourselves to the other guys. We made our way to the lobby to search for girls. We returned to the ktv room with girls. After a while a young lady from Lucky came in and collected 250rmb from each of us. then she asked if we wanted white wine or red. White wine was delivered in small jugs. It tasted terrible! Like diluted rubbing alcohol. I said I wanted beer. The Lucky girl said beer was not an option, but we could have a bottle of red wine for an extra 50rmb. So I thought that was good and agreed. 2 very small jugs of red was delivered, one on my table on one on another table, for which we each paid 50 rmb extra. The Lucky girl then left. The "wine" tasted like 33% wine, 33% water and 33% seven-up. But at least it tasted better than the rubbing alcohol.
It was an ok party, the guys friendly and polite, but the party was very dull compared to Dave's. 2 guys who had no ability to sing dominated the microphones, they sounded like screaming banshee's from hell. My friend and I left the party early, around 9pm. Fortunately, my girl was pretty and gave me very good service in my hotel room.
In conclution, I had a good time on both evenings. However, I think the service provided by Dave (BSD) was much better, tha party was better, beer WAS an option, and the price was about the same. If the Lucky service charges more for the beer option then maybe Dave's service is cheaper.
SNACKS. The fruit bowls are excellent and included in the price. The other snacks that cost extra are preserved pig grizzle, stale oily french fries, chicken feet, etc. Definately not worth the extra cost.
Pointpanic
03-01-11, 14:42
AsnDragon, BruceTea, Freepeaks,
Holy Crap! SEAJoe, Jettsetter, and even Santa in a BSD KTV party all having a blast in CP. Dar345 you need to get back over there. US old guys stateside are missing out. Soonest I can get there is sometime in late May or mid June. Really miss you guys!
Point.
I recently attended Dave's KTV party at Fuhao. A few days later a taiwanese friend invited me to attend another KTV party at the Fuhao organised by the Lucky group.
In conclution, I had a good time on both evenings. However, I think the service provided by Dave (BSD) was much better, tha party was better, beer WAS an option, and the price was about the same. If the Lucky service charges more for the beer option then maybe Dave's service is cheaper.
SNACKS. The fruit bowls are excellent and included in the price. The other snacks that cost extra are preserved pig grizzle, stale oily french fries, chicken feet, etc. Definately not worth the extra cost.
Big Swingin Dave
03-01-11, 15:34
It's been about a year since our last visit to Virgin KTV and after tonight, we (Legal Lad, Shiuh, and I) wish we stayed away. By far tonight is the least amount of girls I have ever seen in a hotel connected KTV. There are only 3 mommies working there. One mommy had 3 girls, the second one had 6, the last had about 12. The girls are split into 2 categories: 2-5-8, and 3-7-10. Only 1 girl was selected as they each brought a lunch-box. The only good point about going there is that alcohol is cheap. Buy 2 dozen beers get 3 dozen free.
Virgin is known for their Sauna so for those of you thinking about going to the KTV, there are many other establishments that are worth going before taking your chance at this place.
BSD
Hui Mei Alley was closed tonight. Mommy outside pulled some girls from a car and I got a pretty one for 150 rmb. Unfortunately, her pretty body had lots of red bedbug sores. Many of these girls sleep in filthy conditions, especially the farmers daughters who are new in town, fresh off the truck.
Last weekend of February was very busy here with lots of taiwanese guys, because it was a national holiday in Taiwan.
AsnDragon, BruceTea, Freepeaks,
Holy Crap! SEAJoe, Jettsetter, and even Santa in a BSD KTV party all having a blast in CP. Dar345 you need to get back over there. US old guys stateside are missing out. Soonest I can get there is sometime in late May or mid June. Really miss you guys!
Point. Don't worry Point, we promise to look after the girls for you, keep them happy and well fed while you are busy at work.
Jettsetter
03-02-11, 03:00
After a six week return to the states for WORK. I am now back and taking it slowly. Just getting back into the groove and have only been to on KTV night since I have a buddy from the states here and he's more in to the BBS scene than the nightly KTV scene.
Also since I have a regular gal, KTV is not as much a daily thing but more of a weekend thing.
Since I've been here, have managed to hit up a sauna at HM. Which was just okay. But I blame that on my pick of gals. Did give the gal a run for "my" money at a 30 minute BBBJTC.
Life in CP is good. Weather is perfect (even getting a little warm). We've got a good balance of non mongering and mongering activities for those that are staying here for the long haul. We have met some cool folks who live in town or are here for a while. So if you're around and like to play bball, we got a regular crew now that plays.
We are also hitting up the go-karting place tonight if anybody wants to join (local place, very fun. About 10 minutes from the main strip).
Friday night and Saturday night should be a good party this week.
So for all you guys thinking about coming. Make your way out here. Heaven awaits. (just bring your wallet).
Please just note that we don't do traditional Chinese partying. No loud singing all night. We put on some hip hop, play games).
-Jett
AsnDragon, BruceTea, Freepeaks,
Holy Crap! SEAJoe, Jettsetter, and even Santa in a BSD KTV party all having a blast in CP. Dar345 you need to get back over there. US old guys stateside are missing out. Soonest I can get there is sometime in late May or mid June. Really miss you guys!
Point. Hey PP, I think I was at Fuhao that night! I remember talking with Santa at a KTV (long time no see!) and I think it was when at Fuhao KTV.
I had arrived a bit late that evening, because I had come from Hong Kong earlier that evening. But, Dave had picked out a girl for me who was pretty cute. It's nice to roll into the KTV and know that a cutie (or two, if I had asked) will be waiting for you.
Dave had even RSVP'ed a hotel room for me, because I was scrambling to get to CP and hadn't any time to try and RSVP a hotel (and that weekend CP hotels were VERY full due to the Taiwan holiday). So, getting a hotel room with such late notice was difficult, but BSD got me a very nice room.
Keep working hard, so you can get your ass to CP. That's what we all live / work for."CP or Bust".
Dar425 (or whatever!)
Hey Jett,
How's the weather? Do I need to bring a heavy jacket? Shorts OK?
LAM
After a six week return to the states for WORK. I am now back and taking it slowly. Just getting back into the groove and have only been to on KTV night since I have a buddy from the states here and he's more in to the BBS scene than the nightly KTV scene.
Also since I have a regular gal, KTV is not as much a daily thing but more of a weekend thing.
Since I've been here, have managed to hit up a sauna at HM. Which was just okay. But I blame that on my pick of gals. Did give the gal a run for "my" money at a 30 minute BBBJTC.
Life in CP is good. Weather is perfect (even getting a little warm). We've got a good balance of non mongering and mongering activities for those that are staying here for the long haul. We have met some cool folks who live in town or are here for a while. So if you're around and like to play bball, we got a regular crew now that plays.
We are also hitting up the go-karting place tonight if anybody wants to join (local place, very fun. About 10 minutes from the main strip).
Friday night and Saturday night should be a good party this week.
So for all you guys thinking about coming. Make your way out here. Heaven awaits. (just bring your wallet).
Please just note that we don't do traditional Chinese partying. No loud singing all night. We put on some hip hop, play games).
-Jett
Mit Fo Lfe
03-03-11, 05:39
Hey Jett,
How's the weather? Do I need to bring a heavy jacket? Shorts OK?
LAMHeard you should prepare for warm and cold weather
Thread Started.I am planning to go to Dongguan early Apr. Any Suggestions for good place to visit? SPA? KTV?
Good afternoon fellow ISG members. Enjoying the great weather we are having in CP. Will be nice to see more scantily clad chicas roaming about the streets of CP!
Last night I went go-karting with some ISG and non ISG friends. It was my first time and although I sucked I had a kickass time. Great event to do when you have some downtime from mongering.
The weekend of my first KTV / Sauna adventure is fast approaching and I cannot describe to why'all how excited I am. Will post a report after the weekend festivities are over!
Happy hunting,
Sauce
Big Swingin Dave
03-03-11, 09:07
Hey Jett,
How's the weather? Do I need to bring a heavy jacket? Shorts OK?
LAMWeather in DG in March is generally mild, we already had a few days of T-shirt and shorts weather and should continue until Saturday (5th) then the weather will cool down a bit (59 high. 54 low) and rainy starting Sunday through Tuesday. The rest of the month should be the same and should reach into the low 70s.
BSD
Pleasure Dude
03-03-11, 22:01
Hey Jettsetter,
Good to see you are back in town. I will be in CP next week so let's hook up.
PD.
After a six week return to the states for WORK. I am now back and taking it slowly. Just getting back into the groove and have only been to on KTV night since I have a buddy from the states here and he's more in to the BBS scene than the nightly KTV scene.
-Jett
WARNING:
Saw a little skinny guy trip a big guy and snatch his neck chain. He then ran out into the street and jumped onto the back of a partner's moving motorbike. This happened on the big main street, outside the video store across from the Virgin Hotel. This happened many times between the Miraton and Virgin hotels. Also beware of pickpockets.
Earlier, in the same location. 2 women approached me with promises of girls if I followed them. I think I know all of the mommies but do not know these women. I suspect they would steer me into a vacant nearby apartment where I would have been robbed. Thugs take your room card, go to your room and empty your safe. Then they hold you hostage while they empty your atm account. You are beaten if you do not cooperate.
I am planning to go to Dongguan early Apr. Any Suggestions for good place to visit? SPA? KTV?Kog,
I see this is your first post, so I am going to give you two pieces of "hard-earned" advice. It is probably worth what you will pay for it. First, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT plan to go to CP if will only be able to do it once in your life. It isn't worth pining away the rest of your life wishing you could get back to the place that is actually "running over" with lithe, young, attractive and. Wait for the best part. AVAILABLE, Mandarin talent!
Second, before you are "tsunamied" under with a bunch of RTFF comments, take a couple of hours to read thru the back posts about Chang Ping / Dongguan, and then ask some specific questions that indicate you did spend some time doing research on this "fantasy oasis". I think you will find your inquiries to be better received.
I would also HIGHLY RECOMMEND that when your plans are firmed up you contact Big Swinging Dave and add your name to his client list.
I have personally used his services for the past 1 1/2 years (as recently as today) and can honestly say that while no two nights are ever the same, I have always had a worthwhile visit when he was "in charge". Take his advice to heart, because he knows of which he speaks.
I hope I get to catch up when you are in town and enjoy an evening of "Asian fun" in CP!
Sky
Kog,
I see this is your first post, so I am going to give you two pieces of "hard-earned" advice. It is probably worth what you will pay for it. First, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT plan to go to CP if will only be able to do it once in your life. It isn't worth pining away the rest of your life wishing you could get back to the place that is actually "running over" with lithe, young, attractive and. Wait for the best part. AVAILABLE, Mandarin talent!
Second, before you are "tsunamied" under with a bunch of RTFF comments, take a couple of hours to read thru the back posts about Chang Ping / Dongguan, and then ask some specific questions that indicate you did spend some time doing research on this "fantasy oasis". I think you will find your inquiries to be better received.
I would also HIGHLY RECOMMEND that when your plans are firmed up you contact Big Swinging Dave and add your name to his client list.
I have personally used his services for the past 1 1/2 years (as recently as today) and can honestly say that while no two nights are ever the same, I have always had a worthwhile visit when he was "in charge". Take his advice to heart, because he knows of which he speaks.
I hope I get to catch up when you are in town and enjoy an evening of "Asian fun" in CP!
SkyBRO! I was just wondering. How can I get in contact of this legendary Big Swinging Dave?
I am currently in Shenzhen and am planning for a trip to Dongguan. Hope you can be of many help.
Thanks!
Mean Cock
Bob Builder
03-04-11, 17:20
WARNING:
Saw a little skinny guy trip a big guy and snatch his neck chain. He then ran out into the street and jumped onto the back of a partner's moving motorbike. This happened on the big main street, outside the video store across from the Virgin Hotel. This happened many times between the Miraton and Virgin hotels. Also beware of pickpockets.
Earlier, in the same location. 2 women approached me with promises of girls if I followed them. I think I know all of the mommies but do not know these women. I suspect they would steer me into a vacant nearby apartment where I would have been robbed. Thugs take your room card, go to your room and empty your safe. Then they hold you hostage while they empty your atm account. You are beaten if you do not cooperate. Just your normal daily happenings in Dongguan.
Jettsetter
03-05-11, 02:52
CP right now is as Dave said. MILD. Meaning I could go outside and wear my shorts and sweatshirt. But those who like it warmer, will need jeans and jacket. But there were also some days last week which it was in the 80's and shorts and t-shirt were the way to go.
Needless to say the weather has been hit or miss and you should plan on both warmer days and cooler days. Nothing crazy cold. No need for heaters but a nice sweatshirt or jacket will suffice.
As far as the action goes.
We hit up FH last night. We had two rooms going between two different groups. Personally I'm not a singer and I really am not into the whole singing KTV experience (lots of my buddies aren't either). In my opinion and it's just MY OPINION. Hearing some dude or chick singing is not my idea of fun. I mean there's a reason why there are professionals and a reason why you are partying with me and not getting paid to sing.
But enough of that. We put on our own hip hop music and concentrated on the focus of the evening. Playing with pretty girls and bonding with the boys (something that doesn't happen when everyone is sitting listening to someone howl out tunes).
FH was packed with dudes. I don't know if it's me or what, but it seems there are MORE and MORE dudes here each time I come. AS early as 6:20 or so, there were so many dudes it was hard to walk. I have to say that in that environment, you grab the FIRST girl that catches your eye. I wasn't really looking for a gal, but would've sat one that I saw caught my eye. But there were so many dudes and the girls were rushing through that it made it VERY difficult.
The days of yesteryear where it was a casual stroll with time to consider is now gone at least on this Friday night. Perhaps other days of the week would be better!
So be mindful, if coming on a weekend, go early, and pick quick. You can always kick out later. But pick a few. Send them to the room and then decide there. That's my opinion.
Looking forward to your arrivals. Fun awaits.
-Jett
Jettsetter
03-05-11, 02:54
BRO! I was just wondering. How can I get in contact of this legendary Big Swinging Dave?
I am currently in Shenzhen and am planning for a trip to Dongguan. Hope you can be of many help.
Thanks!
Mean CockMy suggestion. Get membership on this board and PM Dave.
Or you could look in the classifieds section of this board, I believe Dave has contact information there as well.
-Jett
Big Swingin Dave
03-05-11, 04:04
WG fee has not been increased to 400 per visit. Room cost is 240 for the Japanese style rooms and 270 for the regular rooms.
Even with the price hike, Virgin remains very popular in town. Other Saunas may follow suit and will advise when known.
BSD
The days of yesteryear where it was a casual stroll with time to consider is now gone at least on this Friday night. Perhaps other days of the week would be better!
Fun awaits.
-JettOkay, so maybe it wasn't such a catastrophe that I wasn't able to stay the extra night. I hope to make it back the middle of the week, maybe things won't be so crowded! It sure felt like you guys have a really good group of mongers to party with now! Everytime I walk around CP I am amazed at the numbers and level of talent! More coming everyday! Yummy!
I have been in the relative wilds of HK with (amazing, yes) minimal Internet access. Until now. I spent the better part of a day last weekend with BSD and highly recommend his services. He knows Changping like no other.
I'd also like to tell Dar, Santa, Shuihe sp? (and think it was Jettsetter I met on the street, along with another ISG legend) Hello. It was good fun at Fuhao (and thanks for tolerating my meager KTV singing contribution that impressed no one, including the WGs). I'll sort through this thread to see if any of you guys reviewed your picks for the evening, as I think I was the first one out. Since my girl kept plunging her tongue down my face I figured it was time to bolt before her mood changed. Was not disappointed with my girl in the red dress (Fong Li). Girl's probably too strong a word, as I'd surmise she was nearer to 30 than the 26 she claimed, and stretch marks (4-whyear old kid, it turns out). But no big distraction in a three-pop festival. In retrospect, I might have gone with one of the younger cuties along the lines of the firecracker Dave selected for Dar, or Shuih's little cutie. Many of the girls at the KTV clearly aren't into Caucasians but do seem to warm up once the see you partying with the Chinese brothers, including the young Hong Kong studs in the room next door (also hosted by Dave) who were great fun, too, and had exquisite taste in the hotties. Anyhoo, long story short: Dave knows best. Use his services. Cheers.
SE Asia Joe
03-05-11, 05:33
I don't think I need to add to the good times that B S Dave always seem to be able to make everybody have at KTV's. But besides that, there are the myriad other things he has to do to ensure a good time by all present. Give you an example:.
We were all at the Fuhao last night with BSD flitting between 2 rooms. One room with "Chill music" compliments of Jesttsetter who don't like all that singing (and who brought his Ipod connected to the music system, with lots of cool music I /O the piffle music at KTV's) and another room with lots of singing. Lots of drinking and game playing in BOTH rooms.
Well, I was at the chill music room for a while, and when I went back to the Singing room, this idiot Gal was making a scene, pretending to be drunk and crying and throwing a tantrum. What did BSD do? First he just had the DJ call her mommy and told the Mommy to control her gal. Mommie couldn't do much. So he took matters into his own hands and just told her to go sit or sleep or cry or throw up or whatever she wants to do in a corner whilst we all just totally ignored her. She was screaming to get her sitting fee and leave and BSD just left her alone. Hilarious!
Sure enough, it wasn't ten minutes and of course she "sobered up". For these gals try to make crap like this up, just to be able get their sitting fee and then go off to another room. Meanwhile though, BSD had already arranged for another gal to sit with our friend who had originally picked "Tantrum Gal"
I left at 11 and everybody was still giving her the cold shoulder, with NOBODY even paying any attention to her. Dave had already told us all that she will only get her sitting fee when the last guy leaves, And this he explicitly relayed to both the Mommy as well as to the girl herself.
Actually she was VERY HOT looking. But sometimes these good looking gals get spoiled by us punters. Pretend to get drunk, not able to do her supposed duties. And a lot of guys will just be all gentlemanly and pay her her sitting fee and let her go off.
Its' NOT that she wasn't "able to do her duty". BSD saw through her (NO, no way she was really drunk because it was only Eight-ish when she started her stupid "show") and there's no way he was going to let her get away with it.
You see, since she's so good looking, its no problem whatsoever to go to another room and get re-picked and get another sitting fee. BSD did what he did especially to let the mommy know that we ain't nobody's fool and that we ain't going to stand for it.
No more next time. Errrr, we hope anyway! LOL.
SEAJ
Member #4144
03-05-11, 12:46
I know you guys all had great fun at your parties, I tried to join in too but BSD said party on Fri only, but I can go to CP only earlier part of the week so I ended up going to Fuhao by myself.
Anyway, I have been to Fuhao a few times in the past two weeks and I found the 258 girls there were good fun and service excellent, but I have not been able to make a model (3610) to warm up to me. Generally speaking, the flower street in Fuhao was slim picking, only a couple of the models are up to the quality I usually found in Zhuhai. The problem was that these couple of girls in Fuhao knew it too and thus they couldn't care less as they got picked every night.
So where in CP can one find larger number of quality girls?
I was staying at Hui Hua hotel and the KTV at the hotel seemed to have some really pretty girls on the entrance, so anyone has experience with that KTV? It is called Ming Zhu club I believed.
Fillmore
Bob Sacamano
03-06-11, 02:21
Was in CP in mid-January and had a great time. Despite it being only two weeks before CNY there was no shortage of talent. I only did the BBS and sauna action, and both seemed to have their normal winter lineups. The most memorable talent was Tiantian from Baby's BBS, a cute spinner (about 150 cm. 40 kg) from "Hulan" (I guess that "Hunan" in the Hunan dialect is pronounced "Hulan" because they all say it that way) , about 20, andOMGthe biggest boobs I've ever seen on a Chinese girl! Each one was almost as big as my head! We were chatting while she took off her clothes and I was prepared for "push-up bra disappointment" but to my amazement she had giant ones that were real. I played it cool and didn't stare wide-eyed or drool. She had that dyed light red hair, which I don't like, but I didn't notice it after she took off her clothes. Service was good and she was a sweet girl.
BTW, when the mommies tell you that a girl is "tinghua" (ting1hua4) or "guai" (guai1) , they both mean well-behaved; obedient. They seem to say this about every girl while giving their sales pitch.
At the recommendation of BSD, I went to the Mei Bao Sauna up the street from the Swan Lake and Clipper Hotels. A good recommendation! Big lineup (about 30 girls) , chose Xinxin from Guangdong, a cutie in a stewardess uniform. Then on to the room for the usual: shower, fire & ice / coke / beer BBBJ, anal vibrator (skipped that) and she did a sexy dance with a pocket rocket vibrator, two pops. They use the "dynamic pricing" system (like MLB teams charging higher ticket prices for the games against the more attractive teams) , where the girls are priced on their looks: 568 618 668 kuai. Price includes room, and if you make a reservation at least 10 mins. In advance you get a 70 kuai discount. PM me for a phone number.
Stayed at the Ya Tao Hotel, just up the street from the Swan Lake and Clipper. Room was 108 kuai and actually bigger than the Swan Lake (238 kuai) but not as plush. It's a good basic Chinese hotel, clean, big double beds, and conveniently located next to Baby's shop.
Santa seems to have developed a thing for fat girls. Maybe to keep him warm during those cold CP winters? I had to translate to the mommies,"I want one so fat that I have to roll her around in flour and look for the wet spot to know where to fuck her." And he told me that he enjoyed banging one while listening to Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto. Such a cultured guy!
Thank you, Santa for your company and advice. SEAJ, it was good seeing you, even though it was only for a meal. BSD and Bruce Tea, thanks for your recommendations, although I'm sorry that we couldn't hook up. Maybe next year. OAH, I missed seeing you there too. Maybe next year.
Bob Sacamano
03-06-11, 03:10
I forgot to mention something about Hunan. It seems that a lot of the girls in CP are from there. A couple of weeks after going to CP, I went to Changsha (capital of the province) and the girls there were really hot-looking. Even the bus drivers were hot. LOL. I didn't do any mongering but there were saunas spread around the city.
Bob Sacamano
03-06-11, 03:14
Thanks, Santa. Yes, everybody please be careful in CP. I saw the same thing while I was there two months ago. While waiting for a bus next to the train station, I suddenly heard some shouting coming from the road between the train station plaza and the bus stops. Some guy started running after another guy and yelling at him. The guy being chased jumped on the back of a waiting motorcycle and he and the driver sped off down the main road in front of the train station. Beware, brothers.
WARNING:
Saw a little skinny guy trip a big guy and snatch his neck chain. He then ran out into the street and jumped onto the back of a partner's moving motorbike. This happened on the big main street, outside the video store across from the Virgin Hotel. This happened many times between the Miraton and Virgin hotels. Also beware of pickpockets.
Earlier, in the same location. 2 women approached me with promises of girls if I followed them. I think I know all of the mommies but do not know these women. I suspect they would steer me into a vacant nearby apartment where I would have been robbed. Thugs take your room card, go to your room and empty your safe. Then they hold you hostage while they empty your atm account. You are beaten if you do not cooperate.
Jettsetter
03-06-11, 04:02
Another successful night with some fun gals.
Went to Mayflower on a Saturday and tried to get there before 6. Let's just say that mad rush of dudes is just crazy on weekends. I mean you see pictures of the stock exchange floor. This is worse.
I was told to get there by 5:45 but didn't end up making it until about 6:30 or so. Due to other obligations that had to be taken care of.
The best suggestion for such a circumstance is to give instructions to BSD or a trusted friend and have him pick the type of girl for you.
I did so and as I got there, Dave was just about to pick the gal and he did so. Without any complaints from me. He knows my type so I trust that at minimum she will be a fun gal who I can have fun with.
As always, there are hits and misses. Even when you pick on your own.
The room was filled with some ISG regulars, and some new folks. Sauce348, Slowerbetter (does he have a new handle?) , SEAJ, and others who I don't know their handles so I won't mention, all came with one girl in tow. Most girls seemed fun.
We got games going and got the drinks flowing. Good times. WE tried to split up the KTV singing and the music a bit because honestly once you get the girls singing, they think they are the next Chinese Idol and want to hog the microphone. We definitely have to put a kabash to that because it becomes just too loud to do anything.
I am still a proponent of waiting for the singing until later after we're all little drunk and I actually believe you are a good singer. (well for some of us that will never be the case).
Either way, it was an okay mix and we all ended up having lots of fun. Good group. Good dynamics.
I do have to say that we had been partying for what felt like hours and hours and looked at the clock and it was literally only 7:50 pm I was truly shocked how it felt like it was 11 pm and we were barely not even to 8 p. M!
Time doesn't fly apparently when you're drinking. ?
Good times. This week should be a blast. Lots of regulars coming into town. Just saw LAMonkey this morning and more folks are coming into town over the next few days. MIT4Life and LADude. Looking forward to it. Safe travels.
I'll keep and eye out for your "type".
-Jett
P.S. forgot to mention that the bill was well under 400 and we all had pretty much all the beer we could drink. Didn't do anything fancy in terms of drinking... BSD did a great job of managing the bill and letting us know how much the bill was throughout the night so we could decide to proceed or stop...
Yo Jett,
Did you see my Mayflower chick from my last trip? If so, tell her I'll be in town on Friday. Got to check her out again!
See ya then!
Another successful night with some fun gals.
Went to Mayflower on a Saturday and tried to get there before 6. Let's just say that mad rush of dudes is just crazy on weekends. I mean you see pictures of the stock exchange floor. This is worse.
I was told to get there by 5:45 but didn't end up making it until about 6:30 or so. Due to other obligations that had to be taken care of.
The best suggestion for such a circumstance is to give instructions to BSD or a trusted friend and have him pick the type of girl for you.
I did so and as I got there, Dave was just about to pick the gal and he did so. Without any complaints from me. He knows my type so I trust that at minimum she will be a fun gal who I can have fun with.
As always, there are hits and misses. Even when you pick on your own.
The room was filled with some ISG regulars, and some new folks. Sauce348, Slowerbetter (does he have a new handle?) , SEAJ, and others who I don't know their handles so I won't mention, all came with one girl in tow. Most girls seemed fun.
We got games going and got the drinks flowing. Good times. WE tried to split up the KTV singing and the music a bit because honestly once you get the girls singing, they think they are the next Chinese Idol and want to hog the microphone. We definitely have to put a kabash to that because it becomes just too loud to do anything.
I am still a proponent of waiting for the singing until later after we're all little drunk and I actually believe you are a good singer. (well for some of us that will never be the case).
Either way, it was an okay mix and we all ended up having lots of fun. Good group. Good dynamics.
I do have to say that we had been partying for what felt like hours and hours and looked at the clock and it was literally only 7:50 pm I was truly shocked how it felt like it was 11 pm and we were barely not even to 8 p. M!
Time doesn't fly apparently when you're drinking. ?
Good times. This week should be a blast. Lots of regulars coming into town. Just saw LAMonkey this morning and more folks are coming into town over the next few days. MIT4Life and LADude. Looking forward to it. Safe travels.
I'll keep and eye out for your "type".
-Jett.
P. S. Forgot to mention that the bill was well under 400 and we all had pretty much all the beer we could drink. Didn't do anything fancy in terms of drinking. BSD did a great job of managing the bill and letting us know how much the bill was throughout the night so we could decide to proceed or stop.
glad to hear that a lot of the peeps are in cp right now. can't wait to start hitting the ktvs again. i definitely prefer jetts ipod music over the karaoke but its great that we get a choice. bsd keeps the bill down and the games going. babes in all shapes and sizes. got to check out meibao after hearing all the good reviews and i want to hit virgin sauna again since i saw plenty of hotties the last time. still looking for that bbs gem as i've only had misses. ahhhhh. in my mind i'm already there!
Mit Fo Lfe
03-06-11, 17:22
fly out earlier! in 24 hours i'll be chilling at the lounge waiting to board. can't wait as it's been almost 6 months since my last trip. will have a good crew of peeps this trip.
Big Swingin Dave
03-06-11, 18:23
Unfortunately, this post is about the cost of things are rising rapidly in CP.
Penninsula KTV:
WGs are still split in 3 categories but are now: 2-6-9; 3-7-10; and 4, 9-9-13. Cost of beer is no longer buy 3 get two free is now buy 2 get 1 free. That being said, the quality of this place is very good if not the best in CP at this moment.
Mayflower KTV:
Rumor has it that 2-5-8 will eventually be gone by the end of the year but Mayflower still has the value as it's advantage. KTV rooms are booked solid Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights. It is extremely difficult to book a room if you don't guarantee at least double the minimum in spending; otherwise, they will put you in Tao Yuan which is a big hassle as they will shuttle you across the street to the old sister KTV. The WGs hates it as it is a lot of trouble for them as they have to return to Mayflower if they get released early. Also, it is a hassle for the customer especially when they want to see other girls after the flower street as they have to trek back over to Mayflower to pick the girls. In addition to having 2-5-8, and 3-6-10 WGs, they have a new category "Models" at 4-8-12. Beers remain at buy 1 get 1 free.
Eurasia KTV:
WGs split in 3 categories: 2-6-9; 3-7-10; and 5-15-20. Beers are buy 2 get 1 free and DJ "expects" 300 tip, service charge at 15.
Most hotels in CP have already raised their rates but even with the rising costs, CP remains as hot as ever. So, if you plan on coming to CP, make sure you make your reservations early; otherwise, you may not be able to stay / play at your favorite hotels / KTV; especially, if you are planning to come on a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday.
BSD
Cunning Linguist
03-06-11, 18:26
Many of the girls at the KTV clearly aren't into Caucasians but do seem to warm up once the see you partying with the Chinese brothers, including the young Hong Kong studs in the room next door (also hosted by Dave) who were great fun, too, and had exquisite taste in the hotties. Anyhoo, long story short: Dave knows best. Use his services. Cheers.You are right about many of the girls not being into Caucasians. I, and others, have discussed this several times on this thread. However, for those new to this, let me say that it boils down to 2, possibly 3 things.
1. Caucasians have a reputation of having monster dongs, thanks to the BS porn the girls see.
2. Most Caucasians speak little or no Mandarin at all and thus communication is extremely limited.
And maybe.
3. Some girls have never been out of the country, I mean, rice fields, and freak out if they see a Caucasian with blue or green eyes. It spooks them.
Nevertheless, the only advice I can give is speak Mandarin well, or at least well enough to have a basic conversation. Reason number one can only be overcome if they are convinced it is false, plus the help of good old lubricant. There is nothing a Laowai can do about 3.
In all my time at CP, I was only turned down once, at a BBS at that. She was afraid of the Laowai snake. I was never turned down at a KTV. Rather the opposite. I was besieged, like all other guys, by Mommies and their girls in tow. Perhaps it is appearance as well. I recommend that all Laowais dress well as it gives them more confidence in you (maybe they think you have more money, therefore your desirability goes way up). If you are overseas Chinese or Oriental-looking, it is a different ball game, believe me. Be glad, go forth and multiply (or at least try with the girls, LOL).
As for safety mentioned by some, I assume that the crime rate, low, is still the same. I quite simply did not pay attention to Mommies that Bruce Tea or Big Swinging Dave don't point out to me. I recall being in the KTV at the Clipper, alone, in the bar area and there were a lot of dark, nasty glares aimed at me and the staff politely asking me if I didn't want to leave. I did. Sometimes it is hard being a Laowai but, then again, it is harder to be a Chinese (or Oriental) than a gringo in the Dominican Republic according to my experience! LOL. This is a crazy world. This is why I am so grateful that there are guys like Big Swinging Dave to fend for us.
As far as I am concerned, CP and Haiti are the best places for our hobby though I admit that most guys' tastes are not that broad for the broads and that the places are literally worlds apart in every possible sense. In Haiti and the Dominican Republic, many of the guys (punters) there were NOT into Thais and definitely not into Chinese. In CP, most of the guys, if any, are NOT into Black or Latina girls. That makes me glad, more for me to dote on!
You are right about many of the girls not being into Caucasians. I, and others, have discussed this several times on this thread. However, for those new to this, let me say that it boils down to 2, possibly 3 things.
1. Caucasians have a reputation of having monster dongs, thanks to the BS porn the girls see.
2. Most Caucasians speak little or no Mandarin at all and thus communication is extremely limited.
And maybe.
3. Some girls have never been out of the country, I mean, rice fields, and freak out if they see a Caucasian with blue or green eyes. It spooks them.
Nevertheless, the only advice I can give is speak Mandarin well, or at least well enough to have a basic conversation. Reason number one can only be overcome if they are convinced it is false, plus the help of good old lubricant. There is nothing a Laowai can do about 3. It also depends on how you look. If you are also not too fat, too old, too tall, balding, ugly and weird looking it is better. Most Caucasian guys fall in somewhere in one of the categories including me. If you look like a BLT, the girls will be all over you. A BLT is Brad Pitt, Leo DiCaprio and Tom Cruses.
Peninsula the best? Really? Better selection than Mayflower? More fun than Fuhao? Why do you say its the best right now BSD?
Unfortunately, this post is about the cost of things are rising rapidly in CP.
Penninsula KTV:
WGs are still split in 3 categories but are now: 2-6-9; 3-7-10; and 4, 9-9-13. Cost of beer is no longer buy 3 get two free is now buy 2 get 1 free. That being said, the quality of this place is very good if not the best in CP at this moment.
BSD
Peninsula the best? Really? Better selection than Mayflower? More fun than Fuhao? Why do you say its the best right now BSD?I am not BSD, but in the last year or so my best experiences with KTV gals have been at the Peninsula. There are not as many girls for sure, and it is not "flower street". All three times I have been I have had at least one of the two girls I sat be an extraordinary experience. They were better looking, and more fun in the room with not the "attitude issues" I 've had at Fu Hao. When we got to the hotel room, good if not great GFE and willingness to try a few different things. The only issue is on at least 2 occasions when I tried to contact the girl a few months later they had gotten out of the business. Both wished me well and at least said they "enjoyed" the times we spent together, a nice touch even if not true!
Mit Fo Lfe
03-07-11, 01:27
I am not BSD, but in the last year or so my best experiences with KTV gals have been at the Peninsula. There are not as many girls for sure, and it is not "flower street". All three times I have been I have had at least one of the two girls I sat be an extraordinary experience. They were better looking, and more fun in the room with not the "attitude issues" I 've had at Fu Hao. When we got to the hotel room, good if not great GFE and willingness to try a few different things. The only issue is on at least 2 occasions when I tried to contact the girl a few months later they had gotten out of the business. Both wished me well and at least said they "enjoyed" the times we spent together, a nice touch even if not true!Interesting as I've never had good luck at the Pen. I always seem to have good luck at fuhao though. Guess time to head back. 16 hours and counting
Had an awesome weekend, Was my 1st real outing in CP (After a yr of being in the dark) and I must say, that it was the most fun I've had in a long long time. Much thanks to BSD, Jett, Seajoe and many of the other ISGers and non-ISGers I met and partied with over the weekend. You guys def are the coolest cats in townm, and I look forward to joining many more events (mongering or non-mongering) in the future!
Ok so here goes a little recap of my weekend:
Friday.
Rushed to Fuhao straight after work. Was still wearing work clothes so alot of the brothers were saying I looked like I worked there haha. The 1st girl I picked later told me she thought I was a manager there. Anyways, seeing a flower street for the first time blew my mind. So many girls, but at the same time also a bunch load of dudes. Was mad crowded and kinda hard to focus on picking the right girl. After making 3 rounds, was feeling a little under pressure to make a quick pick. So ended up picking 2 girls. (Jett calls them spinner types) Both of them were relatively new to the CP scene, both quiet and shy.
Proceeded to our room and had a blast throughout the night, drinking and playing games with the girls and the bros. One of my girls had a pretty bad attitude and could not grasp the simple concepts / rules of the games we were playing. In other words, she was dumb as shit. This kinda put me off. I'm not one to complain about a girls IQ (especially if its a WG) but if you don't understand a game based on rock paper scissors, then I probably don't want to entrust you with my TD. (Tiger Dick!) unless ure fucking hot (which she wasn't)
Anyways ended up taking home the other girl. It was a nice GFE but she was way too shy in the sack and as flat as an airplane landing strip. (This became a reoccuring theme for the rest of the weekend._-) Let her stay overnight (Another mistake) and she was just as crap in the morning as she was in the evening.
Saturday.
Started the day off by getting some grub with Jett and another friend. Since meeting these new friends, I have realized there are alot of good places to eat in CP. Feels like I really wasted a yr here, not exploring the town. After chillin a bit, went to the station to pick up my good buddy from HK. It was also going to be his first real taste of CP and he was just as excited as I was.
We then proceeded to meet up with BSD and headed over to Virgin Hotel for our first sauna experience. Arrived around 1PM and was led to a nice room where we would view girls in lineups of 2 to 3 girls. Some were dressed in bunny outfits, nurse outfits ETC. Nothing I saw really blew my mind. In the end I chose a tall girl in a long black dress while my friend picked a bunny.
The girl had a small chest (AGAIN, damn those deceiving push up bras!) but service was great. Started off with BBBJ (she was really into it, and sucked like a pro) I think she wanted me to CIM but BJs, although nice have never been enough to help me unload. So on went the condom. After an acrobatic little session, I blew my load. I was then led into the bathroom where there was this couch. (Inside the shower stall) girl laid me down and soaped me up, using her hands and body.
Back to the bed, some sucking action, dragon poison (?) , (basically she stuck her tongue in my a hole. Was interesting to say the least but I don't think I'll let them do this to me in the future) another BJ and she asked if I wanted to unload in the bathroom. Sure why not. So I did her on the "bath couch" (?)
After 2 pops, I still had some ammo left and with some time left on the clock I got her to agree to another romp in bed. 2hrs. 3 pops. Damage: 400 for the girl. 275 for the room.
Part 2 to come after my lunch break.
Interesting as I've never had good luck at the Pen. I always seem to have good luck at fuhao though. Guess time to head back. 16 hours and countingJust one more reason to "spread the wealth"! I will be back to CP on Wed. If nothing changes! Who knows what adventure lies in store.
Dirknblane
03-07-11, 10:11
I haven't been back to CP since October. Flew in from shanghai for a friends wedding in hk and for another hongkie friends bachelor party. We got to the KTV room by 6 and the flower street was completely packed. All the girls were gone by 645. Luckily we all found our share and I picked up 2. I forgot the red pins means the girls are on the rag but she was funny and cute so I allowed her to stay. My other girl from Hunan was a lot of fun. We played, turtle turtle jump, lucky, liars dice and my favorite the bees. When we would play the bees we would kiss each other if we matched. That led to a lot of macking by the end of the night.
My friend needed a room to bang his girl because she was bitchy and needed to show her who was daddy. Like a bro I sent him away with my key and he was back an hour later. That was the standard 500 charge. He later spent the night at hui mei for the overnight special.
After playing with my girl, I sent the rag home and made out with my Hunan girl. After paying the boys for the room. 450 rmb each guy for 2 blacks, and crates of beer and food. Not bad price for 8 guys and their new friends.
My room at the mayflower has $328 and had a bath tub&65292; 42 inch tv, computer and a nice big shower. The shower was round one of 4 peat. We both took a shower together then the party started the minute we washed each other. It was like fatal attraction with me picking her up, doing it from behind, and legs at every imaginable angle. I love the 90lb 5th 2 spinners. She was even shaved down under. We proceeded to towel off, carried her to the bed then round 2. Rounds 3 and 4 came around 8am and 10am before my breakfast with the boys.
All in all a good night for 900 to my Hunan girl. 200 for the girl on the rag, and 450 for the booze, djs and KTV room. I tipped hunan another 100 as she brought me back to my 20 something self. It has been quite awhile since this laker ever had a 4 peat in 12 hours.
I may have to come back south more often.
Big Swingin Dave
03-07-11, 11:49
Peninsula the best? Really? Better selection than Mayflower? More fun than Fuhao? Why do you say its the best right now BSD?Beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder but being in CP living here couple years now and going out on hundreds of KTV parties, sauna line-ups, and bbs around town, Penninsula has been a place that consistently providing top "quality" girls in terms of look and figure. Basically, what I meant was Penninsula gets a big thumbs up for being at least some what consistent and is the reason that they are doing quite well and stand as one of the top 5 KTVs in town. Each of the top tier KTVs in town has it own special qualities and it is best for everyone to come and discover them for themselves.
BSD
Member #4144
03-07-11, 12:56
I have not seen yoyo mentioned lately but I did run into one last week. She was very pretty, there might be 5 other 258 girls in Fuhao as pretty as she. She is very thin, weight less then 40kg and only an A cup, with curly black hair.
She was excellent in the room, did grab my little bro and have her hands all over me during vaccum dance, but so did another also very pretty 258 girl. I ended up taking both back and yoyo was the one doing all the BBBJ without me asking, but somehow I had a feeling I have a different yoyo?
Fillmore
I have been in the relative wilds of HK with (amazing, yes) minimal Internet access. Until now. I spent the better part of a day last weekend with BSD and highly recommend his services. He knows Changping like no other.
I'd also like to tell Dar, Santa, Shuihe sp? (and think it was Jettsetter I met on the street, along with another ISG legend) Hello. It was good fun at Fuhao (and thanks for tolerating my meager KTV singing contribution that impressed no one, including the WGs). I'll sort through this thread to see if any of you guys reviewed your picks for the evening, as I think I was the first one out.
In retrospect, I might have gone with one of the younger cuties along the lines of the firecracker Dave selected for Dar, or Shuih's little cutie. Many of the girls at the KTV clearly aren't into Caucasians but do seem to warm up once the see you partying with the Chinese brothersHi WH,
I usually don't bother posting reviews of each / every girl. If we did then we'd have too many postings of different girls (or some of the same girls!) , with same / different opinions of each girls performance / looks / etc. However, if I get some girl who is exceptional (in a good or bad way) , then I'm more likely to post a review of here.
Usually, I text BSD in the morning and give him a quickie review of my girl (most say 'just avg' but a few are exceptional). I also include info about if she refused to try some specific things, or if she did something extraordinary well; so that Dave is hopefully informed and can make good recommendations in the future to other guys.
That particular night, my girl was OK / average in bed. Cute looking, but also had the Incredible Deflating Breasts (IDB). I probably texted Dave in the morning to let him know that I, myself, had just an avg experience with her.
Maybe next time I should bring along a Shake Weight (tm) and let the girls in CP warm up with it so we guys can start getting some REALLY good HJs in CP!
The following night I picked out a girl who spoke REALLY good English (Mary is her English name). Average looking, a bit tall, but REALLY good English. I gave her 2 thumbs up, because she kept boinking me and wasn't going to stop riding me until BOTH my nuts were drained (I usually hold back and only release 1 nut at a time because my chakra skill!). She also did BBBJ with CIM and swallowing. I asked her how it was and she said,"Tastes like. Uhmm. Hai shui" (sea water). But, it must've been OK because she BBBJ and CIM again. She worked in Zhuhai / Gongbei before coming to CP, and I HAD to ask if she worked in a sauna in Zhuhai, but she said she hadn't.
Dar
after chilling for a couple hours, we headed over to mayflower with bsd. we got there around 5:30. i was shocked to find a hoard of guys just waiting outside for the doors to be open. inside, there were girls rep001tered around the viewing area, all shapes and sizes. determined to not make the same mistake thrice, i scoured the area several times then decided on a pretty little spinner type with acceptable rackage. happy with my choice, i was about to head to the room when a fellow isger advised me to pick a 2nd just in case. decided on a big (but not fat) dongbei girl with a seemingly large rack and bubbly personality.
back in the room, i talked to girl 1 who was prettier after a second glance. in comes girl 2 and girl 1's expression suddenly takes a 180 degree turn for the worst. she says she's going to leave and i said it was ok. with an attitude like that i don't care how pretty you are. i'm just looking to have a good time anyway. so girl 2 it is. we played various drinking games, drank alot of beer and everyone seemed to have a great time. bsdave would update us from time to time with the total for the bill. thanks to him, things didn't get out of hand. my friend ended up ditching his girl for a mommie who caught his eye. he took the mommie back to his hotel room that night. (with hilarious results, but thats another story and his to tell.)
i took my girl home and to my dismay her cleavage was yet another product of the super push bra. (-_-) decided to just do st and let her go. she was alot of fun though but i've realized i don't really like sleeping with these girls.
damage for the night: 350 ktv + 600 st
sunday.
woke up and rushed over to huimei where my friend was staying. after a little situation (thanks, bsd) , we met up with some other isgers for some dimsum at huihua. had some of the most mind blowing charsiu i have ever had in my life. repeat visits a must. afterwards, we went over to the footie for a 2 hr session. nice relaxing end to a great weekend.
in conclusion, i would like to thank the isgers and non isgers i met over the weekend for a great time. looking forward to more mongering (and non-mongering) events with why'all! big big shoutout to bsdave. he organized great ktv parties, made sure the bill didn't get out of hand and helped me and my friend out with a possible troublesome situation. if any newbies are reading this, i highly recommend bsdave if you are stopping by cp!
fh ktv party + 2 girls + lt: 1300 rmb.
virgin therapy: 675 rmb.
mayflower ktv party + st: 950rmb.
footie: 150 rmb.
popping my cp cherry with great friends: priceless!
-sauce
Hi WH,
I usually don't bother posting reviews of each / every girl. If we did then we'd have too many postings of different girls (or some of the same girls!) , with same / different opinions of each girls performance / looks / etc. However, if I get some girl who is exceptional (in a good or bad way) , then I'm more likely to post a review of here.
Usually, I text BSD in the morning and give him a quickie review of my girl (most say 'just avg' but a few are exceptional). I also include info about if she refused to try some specific things, or if she did something extraordinary well; so that Dave is hopefully informed and can make good recommendations in the future to other guys.
That particular night, my girl was OK / average in bed. Cute looking, but also had the Incredible Deflating Breasts (IDB). I probably texted Dave in the morning to let him know that I, myself, had just an avg experience with her.
Maybe next time I should bring along a Shake Weight (tm) and let the girls in CP warm up with it so we guys can start getting some REALLY good HJs in CP!
The following night I picked out a girl who spoke REALLY good English (Mary is her English name). Average looking, a bit tall, but REALLY good English. I gave her 2 thumbs up, because she kept boinking me and wasn't going to stop riding me until BOTH my nuts were drained (I usually hold back and only release 1 nut at a time because my chakra skill!). She also did BBBJ with CIM and swallowing. I asked her how it was and she said,"Tastes like. Uhmm. Hai shui" (sea water). But, it must've been OK because she BBBJ and CIM again. She worked in Zhuhai / Gongbei before coming to CP, and I HAD to ask if she worked in a sauna in Zhuhai, but she said she hadn't.
DarNothing better than getting sauna experience from a KTV girl. Yea sure she was in zhuhai and not at sauna yet can suck like champion. Those skills 8/10 are from a sauna. 2/10 from a punter / bf / xiaogao that taught them. I had one that swore that she learnedd from bf but did he teach her poison dragon without request also?
Big Swingin Dave
03-09-11, 17:52
Yi Hao KTV has now been opened for about 3 months and because of earlier bad reports, we have stayed away until tonight and we were. Pleasantly surprised.
Yi Hao Hotel is located about 1/8 mile from the train station. It is a China rated 5 STAR hotel. The KTV is quite nice, very close to Eurasia standards. WGs are in 3 categories: 2-6-9 (green dress) ; 3-7-10 (yellow dress) ; and 4-10-15 (gold dress). The KTV rooms all have very high celings, the hardware (music system) is quite nice, good sound, well balanced. There is a flower street on two floors (3rd and 4th floor). Beers are buy one get one free for Blue Girl, Bud (Can) , Tsing Tao (Can) , and Tsing Tao (Bottles). Two very nice things that they did for training of the WGs are that the girls do not have a LD duty, they are not allow to use their phones inside the KTV, and that they are suppose to advise you whenever they leave your side (I. E. Potty break, going outside the room, etc.).
Overall, it was a good fun night and the bill came out to 310 RMB per person. It is definitely a nice place to return to in the future.
BSD
Yihao. Yes we all heard the bad reports and guys who stayed there said the hotel was great but they couldn't get a cab. A friend of mine said though (and he picks the same as me) that the talent was definitely there perhaps lured in by the big $ (she was 5-10-15). I do like the no cell phone thing but what is LD?
Meiguoguizi
03-11-11, 00:54
Yihao. Yes we all heard the bad reports and guys who stayed there said the hotel was great but they couldn't get a cab. A friend of mine said though (and he picks the same as me) that the talent was definitely there perhaps lured in by the big $ (she was 5-10-15). I do like the no cell phone thing but what is LD?Lady Drink
Mit Fo Lfe
03-11-11, 01:02
Yihao. Yes we all heard the bad reports and guys who stayed there said the hotel was great but they couldn't get a cab. A friend of mine said though (and he picks the same as me) that the talent was definitely there perhaps lured in by the big $ (she was 5-10-15). I do like the no cell phone thing but what is LD?Hoestly I have been having a hard time finding cabs even at major intersections. I had to wait close to 20 mins before finding one outside pozolim. What kills me is how the cabbies are now just going by flat rates of either 10-15 rmb to get from hh to clipper. It has been raining so that will affect the demand for them. We will see as the week progresses. Also heard that the clipper was booked up for this weekend.
Dan Hawaii
03-11-11, 04:38
My business is shaky and in a bind. Enough so, that a reasonable businessman would never leave to go on a vacation.
I would like to thank every single member, except OWL, for posting all that CP has to offer. I'd like to thank everyone for reminding me what I was missing in CP and that you only live once. Why live rich, but unhappy / unsatisfied? Thanks to 3 of my Cali friends, 1 Texan, FreePeaks, and all I have met on this forum for persuading and tantalizing me. I have concluded..... Bros and ho's before dough. Hahaha.
With that being said, anyone going to be in CP on March 20 - 29? I'm coming with 4 other friends from the States.
Bruce tea, Jettsetter, jim traveler, etc. See you there???
BSD, hook me up please.
Dan Hawaii
03-11-11, 04:42
Yo BSD,
My friend said he can get Yi Hao rooms for 318rmb per night. We might go for that. What do you think? Commuting might be hard?
Yi Hao KTV has now been opened for about 3 months and because of earlier bad reports, we have stayed away until tonight and we were. Pleasantly surprised.
Yi Hao Hotel is located about 1/8 mile from the train station. It is a China rated 5 STAR hotel. The KTV is quite nice, very close to Eurasia standards. WGs are in 3 categories: 2-6-9 (green dress) ; 3-7-10 (yellow dress) ; and 4-10-15 (gold dress). The KTV rooms all have very high celings, the hardware (music system) is quite nice, good sound, well balanced. There is a flower street on two floors (3rd and 4th floor). Beers are buy one get one free for Blue Girl, Bud (Can) , Tsing Tao (Can) , and Tsing Tao (Bottles). Two very nice things that they did for training of the WGs are that the girls do not have a LD duty, they are not allow to use their phones inside the KTV, and that they are suppose to advise you whenever they leave your side (I. E. Potty break, going outside the room, etc.).
Overall, it was a good fun night and the bill came out to 310 RMB per person. It is definitely a nice place to return to in the future.
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
03-11-11, 06:03
Yo BSD,
My friend said he can get Yi Hao rooms for 318rmb per night. We might go for that. What do you think? Commuting might be hard? Yes, you can get Yi Hao rooms at that price if you book EARLY. The days of coming into CP and getting a room on any day is OVER. Especially if you want the lower priced rooms which most of them have been reserved by sometimes as early as Monday the same week that you are coming in for the weekend so booking at least one week in advance is highly recommended; otherwise, you may still be able to stay in the same hotel but at a higher rate room.
In regards to transportation coming out of the hotel, it is a bit difficult to flag down any cabs as most of them going past the hotels will already have guests inside going to / from the train / bus stations. The private cars are available but you will generally be paying 5-10RMB more per trip as they need to pay that extra money to the hotel security / bell boys. There is nothing much (restaurants, BBS, Saunas, etc.) around the hotel so you will find yourself taking a taxi to / from the hotel quite often so yes, it's a bit of a inconvenience. Let me know if you need rooms there, I can definitely hook you up.
BSD
Sardaukar1
03-11-11, 06:18
Two very nice things that they did for training of the WGs are that the girls do not have a LD duty, they are not allow to use their phones inside the KTV, and that they are suppose to advise you whenever they leave your side (I. E. Potty break, going outside the room, etc.).What is "LD duty"?
Sardaukar1
03-11-11, 06:23
It also depends on how you look. If you are also not too fat, too old, too tall, balding, ugly and weird looking it is better. Most Caucasian guys fall in somewhere in one of the categories including me. If you look like a BLT, the girls will be all over you. A BLT is Brad Pitt, Leo DiCaprio and Tom Cruses.Um, would a BLT even need to punt?
Lady DrinkAll I could come up with was Lap Dance. And I couldn't see how not having that duty would be a good thing!
Criss Thor
03-11-11, 09:12
My business is shaky and in a bind. Enough so, that a reasonable businessman would never leave to go on a vacation.
I would like to thank every single member, except OWL, for posting all that CP has to offer. I'd like to thank everyone for reminding me what I was missing in CP and that you only live once. Why live rich, but unhappy / unsatisfied? Thanks to 3 of my Cali friends. 1 Texan, FreePeaks, and all I have met on this forum for persuading and tantalizing me. I have concluded. Bros and ho's before dough. Hahaha.
With that being said, anyone going to be in CP on March 20. 29? I'm coming with 4 other friends from the States.
Bruce tea, Jettsetter, jim traveler, etc. See you there?
BSD, hook me up please. Dan Hawaii, we will be (quite large group of 12 persons) 22-26 March in CP. I know Jetsetter, we met last year, so I hope we can spend some time partying together!
Regards
SE Asia Joe
03-11-11, 10:38
Just got this PM which I answered with just a series of question marks.
Anybody else got this from CuriousWoman with 0 posts?
SEAJ
CuriousWoman
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Reports 0 Hi
Hi Joe. If you know who I am, reply with my name, of course! .
Followed your advice and it is indeed very interesting.
SE Asia Joe
03-11-11, 11:20
What's with Chang Ping getting to be so busy just about everyday of the week?
Could it have something to do with the fact that everywhere else, the action's pretty well non-existent?
Think about it. Zhuhai, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hainan Island etc. The action's ALL a ghost of its previous self. Probably the same at other lesser known towns etc.
ALL of China's mongers coming to CP as the only place left? Thus all the new hotels and places too?
Just don't make sense what's happening in CP right now.
Anybodye else got another theory to explain?
SEAJ
Dan Hawaii
03-11-11, 13:50
Dan Hawaii, we will be (quite large group of 12 persons) 22-26 March in CP. I know Jetsetter, we met last year, so I hope we can spend some time partying together!
RegardsWow 12 guys. The more the Merrier. See you at dave's KTV party. I'll have a group of 5. Its going to be wild! In a good way I hope.
Dan Hawaii
03-11-11, 13:53
Wow, god must be mad at me for booking my flight to CP. Same day, tsunami is coming for me. Everyone in the pacific ocean rim, be safe.
Bob Builder
03-11-11, 16:25
What's with Chang Ping getting to be so busy just about everyday of the week?
Could it have something to do with the fact that everywhere else, the action's pretty well non-existent?
Think about it. Zhuhai, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hainan Island etc. The action's ALL a ghost of its previous self. Probably the same at other lesser known towns etc.
ALL of China's mongers coming to CP as the only place left? Thus all the new hotels and places too?
Just don't make sense what's happening in CP right now.
Anybodye else got another theory to explain?
SEAJIts all those stupid HK motherfuckers spending the HK$6000 cash that the HK government has given them in the budget before they have received it!
Big shout out to BSD, who has had my back more times than I remember. Bros before hoes, 'nuff said.
Big Swingin Dave
03-12-11, 18:34
The Swan Lake BBSes are charging 250ST (100 to mommy. 150 to the WG) and 600LT increase of 50/100. I knew that this was inevitable but did not think that it was going to happen until the end of the year but with inflation the way it is in CP and still all the hotels and ktvs are full starting Thursday through Saturday, no wonder the BBSes are following suit with the price increase as well. Like any business, it is supply and demand and with the demand the way it is. And the supply being the same, no wonder prices are continuing to increase.
BSD
Big Swingin Dave
03-12-11, 18:46
Amazon use to be "the" place before Jia Yi / Tao Yuan opened up. This is the birthplace of the "flower street" in CP but as recent as before Chinese New Years, this place was in the 3rd tier of the KTV partying scene in CP but with new management (ex Kang Cheng management) in place, this place is "HOT" again! We were there Friday night with 15 guys partying in one of their large rooms. The party started at 6:30pm with approximately 200+ WGs parading into the flower street. WGs were split into two categories: Blue tag (non-stripping WGs) at 2-5-8; and Gold tag (Qing Kong &28165; &31354; , stripping girls. Totally nude&65289; girls at 3-6-9. Stripping can happen at any time during the KTV party. Alcohol was buy 1 get 1 free and DJ fee was 200 per. 13 out of 15 (1 was a red tag which means cannot go out) WGs were taken out for at least ST so the ratio was excellent. Since it was a naked KTV, we did not have high expectations but overall the WGs were "ok" with excellent attitude. We had an excellent time with the per person bill at 280RMB per person. Not too bad and definitely a place to revisit again!
BSD
Fast Eddie 48
03-12-11, 20:17
Wow, god must be mad at me for booking my flight to CP. Same day, tsunami is coming for me. Everyone in the pacific ocean rim, be safe.To Dan
I didn't know CP have a airport now you can fly to CP direct, maybe the tsunami water is getting inside your head
So how long you be in CP.
Fast Eddie 48
The Swan Lake BBSes are charging 250ST (100 to mommy. 150 to the WG) and 600LT increase of 50/100. I knew that this was inevitable but did not think that it was going to happen until the end of the year but with inflation the way it is in CP and still all the hotels and ktvs are full starting Thursday through Saturday, no wonder the BBSes are following suit with the price increase as well. Like any business, it is supply and demand and with the demand the way it is. And the supply being the same, no wonder prices are continuing to increase.
BSDHow about those behind Huimei hotel?
OldAsiaHand
03-13-11, 05:01
Thank you, Santa for your company and advice. SEAJ, it was good seeing you, even though it was only for a meal. BSD and Bruce Tea, thanks for your recommendations, although I'm sorry that we couldn't hook up. Maybe next year. OAH, I missed seeing you there too. Maybe next year.Bob,
Sorry, I missed you too this time. Unfortunately, I've not been able to find the time to get to CP for awhile even though it is not so far away. It seems I am out of the country more than in China lately.
That said, I see you were in good hands in CP and glad you enjoyed your annual visit.
I may be up your way some time in June. I will keep you posted.
OAH
OldAsiaHand
03-13-11, 05:05
The Swan Lake BBSes are charging 250ST (100 to mommy. 150 to the WG) and 600LT increase of 50/100. I knew that this was inevitable but did not think that it was going to happen until the end of the year but with inflation the way it is in CP and still all the hotels and ktvs are full starting Thursday through Saturday, no wonder the BBSes are following suit with the price increase as well. Like any business, it is supply and demand and with the demand the way it is. And the supply being the same, no wonder prices are continuing to increase.
BSDBSD,
They tried to put up the prices a couple of years ago but met with resistance, especially from the regular punters. Finally, prices reverted to 200 RMB again not too long after that.
Do you think the price increase will be sustained long term this time around?
OAH
[QUOTE=. Let me know if you need rooms there, I can definitely hook you up.
BSD[/QUOTE]Hi BSD,
Would you be so kind to hook us up for 3-5 rooms from Yi Hao or any other recommended around 21 March? We like the early-bird rates.
Amazon use to be "the" place before Jia Yi / Tao Yuan opened up. This is the birthplace of the "flower street" in CP but as recent as before Chinese New Years, this place was in the 3rd tier of the KTV partying scene in CP but with new management (ex Kang Cheng management) in place, this place is "HOT" again! We were there Friday night with 15 guys partying in one of their large rooms. The party started at 6:30pm with approximately 200+ WGs parading into the flower street. WGs were split into two categories: Blue tag (non-stripping WGs) at 2-5-8; and Gold tag (Qing Kong &28165; &31354; , stripping girls. Totally nude&65289; girls at 3-6-9. Stripping can happen at any time during the KTV party. Alcohol was buy 1 get 1 free and DJ fee was 200 per. 13 out of 15 (1 was a red tag which means cannot go out) WGs were taken out for at least ST so the ratio was excellent. Since it was a naked KTV, we did not have high expectations but overall the WGs were "ok" with excellent attitude. We had an excellent time with the per person bill at 280RMB per person. Not too bad and definitely a place to revisit again!
BSDDave, this has now become my favourite KTV! The only downside to this KTV is the older facilities but then, I don't care about the room. It's the entertainment that's important and the experience here was very different to the others I've been to. I mean, there is the expectation for the chics to take their clothes off and some of them didn't even need to be asked (Sauce's girl was literally dancing in her undies the whole time haha). I think for maximum fun, this place needs to be visited by a LARGE group with many naked WGs. It was just awesome when the naked dancing started and getting squeezed between lots of tits and pussy while dancing away! Haha.
Apparently, my girl told me that the only reason why the Amazon is the only place in CP with the naked WGs is because the owner's dad was the ex head of the Enforcement department (&35686; &23519; &23616; &23616; &38271. The flower street wasn't the largest but still quite a few gems with Dave finding one of the prettiest WGs that I've seen in a long time. So if you guys ever want a guaranteed hot chic, get Dave to pick for you!
Also, there is a show at the front of the KTV in a huge "Amazon" themed auditorium. My girl took me to see the show just before we left and it was OK. You see quite a few girls do pole dancing etc, what you'd usually see in strip bars in the West and there was some games where punters span a big arse wheel with numbers to win cartons of beer. While not that exciting it is something else on offer that you can see if you get bored in the KTV room.
Anyway, I will definately visit this one again!
With all the price increases in CP, this is still the cheapest action that you can get at the moment. The price is now 150 for ST (used to be 130) paid upfront in full to the mommy and the selection a hit and miss. I've been there quite a few times in the past week and you'll see anywhere from 4 girls to 10 girls. The hotel is basically a closed, run-down place and the girls are located on the 3rd floor in a room and the place starts from around 10pm and finishes around 7-8am in the morning. So if you get a boner when you first wake up in the morning without a girl next to you, this is the only place to get some action.
I went on a run with Santa last night after the Fu Hao KTV (as my girl had her period) and saw around 6 girls, I picked a really cute 18 year old from An Hui with a hot body. Santa was eyeing her the whole walk back to Swan Lake Hotel and requested that I ask for her number afterwards. The girl gave okay performance, BBBJ though the action was somewhat mechnical but the thing was when I asked for her number, she refused to give it to me and just told me to call her Mommy. WTF? This is the first time in CP when a girl has refused to give me her number. Not sure what the deal is there.
Anyway, I like the nightmarket and have not had a bad experience there for this trip. One thing to note is that they also have rooms right there in the hotel and you can have the option of doing the girl there or back in your hotel. I tried the former but would recommend you to take her back, while their rooms are ok, I just didn't feel relaxed and comfortable throughout the whole deal. On top of that, I didn't bring condoms and the mommey charged me 10 rmb to supply me with one!
Hi BSD,
Would you be so kind to hook us up for 3-5 rooms from Yi Hao or any other recommended around 21 March? We like the early-bird rates. Hey mate, you will be in for a good time this month as there is a good party of people in CP this month!
You should contact BSD regarding your bookings by private messaging as he does not respond to private booking details on this forum as it calls for personal details for hotel reservations. Just get a membership on ISG or look for his contact details in the classified section. He is very quick and will ensure you and your friends will have rooms for your trip!
Cheers
Dan Hawaii
03-13-11, 23:22
To Dan
I didn't know CP have a airport now you can fly to CP direct, maybe the tsunami water is getting inside your head
So how long you be in CP.
Fast Eddie 48I wish CP had an airport, Make everyones life more easy. Going be in CP for 8 days, March 21 to 29. Kind of a short vacation, Not by choice.
Dan Hawaii
03-13-11, 23:39
No one has mentioned chang an for awhile. Is that place still worth traveling to from CP? Or is CP just better than ca, that going to ca will just be a "downgrade"? More so since amazon seems to have stripping KTV action. In the 1990's, I remember that place used to have over 700 girls and if you came at 8pm, you'll be lonely.
Just wondering because several of my friends want to visit ca on March 21 for a couple of days.
Staying at the Park Hyatt hotel.
Any info will be appreciated and reports will follow. Thanks in advance.
DaveRichardson
03-14-11, 04:41
Hey BSD I'm just headed into Hong Kong and on to CP directly, I sent an email (Ben) but have not heard back. If CP is half as much fun as my trip to date I would like to see the sights asap. I am about to RTFF again but would enjoy the tour.
No one has mentioned chang an for awhile. Is that place still worth traveling to from CP? .The saunas in CA were closed for a long time but have heard that they are now open again.
Sardaukar1
03-14-11, 05:16
The saunas in CA were closed for a long time but have heard that they are now open again.Bro, CA saunas have re-opened a long time ago.
Dan: Of course CA is worth the travel. The saunas there are absolutely awesome. CP can't even compare. CA KTV girls are not as pretty as CP though.
You don't want CP to be too easy. If there is an airport there, the demand will be much higher, if supply is not adjusted accordingly, prices will rise.
I wish CP had an airport, Make everyones life more easy.
Dan Hawaii
03-14-11, 09:31
The saunas in CA were closed for a long time but have heard that they are now open again.Hi santa. Dirty ole handsome man. I miss you bro. It's amazing that you are hitting the ktvs now. I thought that was against your religion. Haha.
Thanks for the ca info. You want to join us? We are going on March 21.
Dan Hawaii
03-14-11, 09:36
Bro, CA saunas have re-opened a long time ago.
Dan: Of course CA is worth the travel. The saunas there are absolutely awesome. CP can't even compare. CA KTV girls are not as pretty as CP though. Thanks for the info. I guess it's worth the trip then. I'll surely give you guys a thorough report.
I heard the KTV girls are more wild, in a good way? And why are the saunas so awesome? I've been to many CP saunas and it's awesome already. How can ca saunas be so much more awesome? Oh no, I got to go see for myself now.
Dan Hawaii
03-14-11, 09:44
Just got a pm from the infamous wadman. Reminiscing about the good ole times and remembering about goodview KTV. Does it still have the best flower street in the world. Or is it just a found memory? 2 of my all time favorite girls were from goodview. Damn, I remember one of them crying for me because of jealousy. Or did she deserve an Emmy Award. Wow, the good ole days. Fucking miss them.
Any info on Gv Ktv would be appreciated.
P.S. Can I tell everyone what the infamous Wadman test is. Come on, wadman, let me spill the beans.
Pussycheck
03-14-11, 10:00
Was in CP in mid-January and had a great time. Despite it being only two weeks before CNY there was no shortage of talent. I only did the BBS and sauna action, and both seemed to have their normal winter lineups. The most memorable talent was Tiantian from Baby's BBS, a cute spinner (about 150 cm. 40 kg) from "Hulan" (I guess that "Hunan" in the Hunan dialect is pronounced "Hulan" because they all say it that way) , about 20, andOMGthe biggest boobs I've ever seen on a Chinese girl! Each one was almost as big as my head! We were chatting while she took off her clothes and I was prepared for "push-up bra disappointment" but to my amazement she had giant ones that were real. I played it cool and didn't stare wide-eyed or drool. She had that dyed light red hair, which I don't like, but I didn't notice it after she took off her clothes. Service was good and she was a sweet girl.
BTW, when the mommies tell you that a girl is "tinghua" (ting1hua4) or "guai" (guai1) , they both mean well-behaved; obedient. They seem to say this about every girl while giving their sales pitch.
At the recommendation of BSD, I went to the Mei Bao Sauna up the street from the Swan Lake and Clipper Hotels. A good recommendation! Big lineup (about 30 girls) , chose Xinxin from Guangdong, a cutie in a stewardess uniform. Then on to the room for the usual: shower, fire & ice / coke / beer BBBJ, anal vibrator (skipped that) and she did a sexy dance with a pocket rocket vibrator, two pops. They use the "dynamic pricing" system (like MLB teams charging higher ticket prices for the games against the more attractive teams) , where the girls are priced on their looks: 568 618 668 kuai. Price includes room, and if you make a reservation at least 10 mins. In advance you get a 70 kuai discount. PM me for a phone number.
Stayed at the Ya Tao Hotel, just up the street from the Swan Lake and Clipper. Room was 108 kuai and actually bigger than the Swan Lake (238 kuai) but not as plush. It's a good basic Chinese hotel, clean, big double beds, and conveniently located next to Baby's shop.
Santa seems to have developed a thing for fat girls. Maybe to keep him warm during those cold CP winters? I had to translate to the mommies,"I want one so fat that I have to roll her around in flour and look for the wet spot to know where to fuck her." And he told me that he enjoyed banging one while listening to Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto. Such a cultured guy!
Thank you, Santa for your company and advice. SEAJ, it was good seeing you, even though it was only for a meal. BSD and Bruce Tea, thanks for your recommendations, although I'm sorry that we couldn't hook up. Maybe next year. OAH, I missed seeing you there too. Maybe next year. Do the BBS girls still spit out every about 5 seconds when they suck your cock BBBJ?
How would you rate the looks of the girls you found at Swan Lake BBS on a scale from 1 to 10 and how would you rate their performances on the same scale?
Jettsetter
03-15-11, 04:03
My business is shaky and in a bind. Enough so, that a reasonable businessman would never leave to go on a vacation.
I would like to thank every single member, except OWL, for posting all that CP has to offer. I'd like to thank everyone for reminding me what I was missing in CP and that you only live once. Why live rich, but unhappy / unsatisfied? Thanks to 3 of my Cali friends. 1 Texan, FreePeaks, and all I have met on this forum for persuading and tantalizing me. I have concluded. Bros and ho's before dough. Hahaha.
With that being said, anyone going to be in CP on March 20. 29? I'm coming with 4 other friends from the States.
Bruce tea, Jettsetter, jim traveler, etc. See you there?
BSD, hook me up please. I'll be here until at least the 24th of March. Going to take a SIDE TRIP to AC during that period. Maybe we can get back on that Go-Karting track. I Think you got whiplash last time didn't you?
-Jett
Jettsetter
03-15-11, 04:20
Just got a pm from the infamous wadman. Reminiscing about the good ole times and remembering about goodview KTV. Does it still have the best flower street in the world. Or is it just a found memory? 2 of my all time favorite girls were from goodview. Damn, I remember one of them crying for me because of jealousy. Or did she deserve an Emmy Award. Wow, the good ole days. Fucking miss them.
Any info on Gv KTV would be appreciated.
P. S. Can I tell everyone what the infamous Wadman test is. Come on, wadman, let me spill the beans. Doesn't it involve your fingers?
CP is as vibrant as ever, although the goold old times have changed, due to the high volume of dudes. Honestly the weekends are just a little too sausage happy for me. Just a sign of busier times I guess. Things are getting a little more expensive in general, but it's still cheap by western standards.
There needs to be other towns to compete for the business, but word is definitely out.
FH this past Saturday must have violated like every fire code in the book because it was literally wall to wall guys with girls being picked up left and right. Sure. Plenty of girls, but damn, the amount of sausage there could have fed a yankee's ball game. Never seen so many dudes.
We all reminisce the days when Plutocrat. Was the unmentioned gem in the rough where literally it was a few guys strolling down flower street with every girl with their eyes on you wanting to be picked to make their fees for the night. Now I've actually seen girls REFUSE To go with guys!
On a Fri / Sat, they KNOW they are going to get picked, so why go with an ugly f-er. By the way. If you were one of the ones refused. I meant no offense. Some gals have their criteria. I know some gals who like the older guys because they think they cum quicker. Younger stronger verile men might bust that p#why of theirs.
Anyways, When we went to Mayflower on Sunday. It was a much easier time picking. We had plenty of cute and fun gals in the room and they were still shuffling lineups in every room.
My opinion. Party during the weekdays! And have reserves for weekends! I. E. Scout on weekdays and reserve for the weekend. I know I had some fun gals this weekend. All meeting my criteria.
-Jett
Jettsetter
03-15-11, 04:28
If you become proficient in CP. You learn to use the right tools for mongering and ways to keep sane and keep yourself connected to the rest of the world.
I've gotten to the point where I can communicate much better with the gals, using my trusty iphone, learned the good places to eat. Met lots of ex pats, etc, and found out the tricks of the trade to get what you want when you want it.
It's all about planning and understanding how the system works here. If you try to fly by the seat and just show up places when it's relatively busy. Good luck. Those days are OVER!
My advice, if you come here and know of some old schoolers, pick their brain, invite them for coffee and learn from the many mistakes we or people we know have made.
Stay safe out here and don't think that becuase you hold a foreign passport you are invincible. You are not. It's a dangerous town with lots of gangs that you just don't see. You mess with the wrong guy and they make their phone call to their 30 other friends that have nothing to f'and to do because they don't f'and work. And how are you going to fight 30 guys with pipes and sticks?
At least with friends here, you may be able to get some back-up. Or at least we know of someone who knows of 30 other guys who will come for the right price?
Best to lay low and have fun and learn from the guys before you. Don't end up being kidnapped like some guys we KNOW OF! (not just rumor mill stuff. We KNOW the guys who got kidnapped. Partied with them. They are just like you!. Thinking with their little heads.)
Nothing wrong with that. But just be smart in general and let the regulars help you be smart. Save some money and have a good time.
CP is still fun. Conspiracy theorists keep saying the end of the world and CP is coming. But why worry about tomorrow when you have today?
You think those millions of poor are going to just get up and give up making their rags to riches with no sex industry? You know that won't happen. It'll just go underground. And knowing more and more of the gatekeepers will help you discover the underground. .
Ah. I think I'm just being a little pensive today. Finally a night without drinking, and rested. Feels good.
Waiting for you guys to show up.
I know the Polish crew will be here soon.. I'm afraid.
-Jett
Jon Guoren
03-15-11, 07:50
I know these two towns probably don't compare, but I am considering CA over CP during first or second week of April. I have had a fanny-tastic time in China last month and a half. Need to conserve capital and also hate ultra commercialised places with no respect at all for traditional Chinese values and culture. It sounds like CP is China's Pattaya an whilst nowt wrong with that I am thinking there is going to be more room for negotiation if I go somewhere a little less central in terms of monging.
Not only that but I don't drink and mong so a night at a KTV will be a waste of money for me. I prefer BBS and hotel GFE on the cheap or better on the free. It sounds like CP is pure prossie land so you can't find a girlfriend without conditional cash payments. Not my best arrangement. At same time it sounds a laugh.
Am I going to be able to. Have a decent enough tiine in CA? Any expats living therefrom. Here.
Price comparison / experience comparison for various options CP vs CA?
I'd echo Jettsetter's comments about weekends at KTVs these days. It is an absolute sausage fest. FuHao and Mayflower especially as I've never seen so many punters which makes flower street viewing a stressful and tiring experience. I get fed up after one lap as it becomes a struggle walking from one end to the other.
Anyway, to the topic. Not sure how often you guys pick the red tags but I've found that doing it may not be a bad idea as I've done it on a couple of occasions and it has turned out well.
First one was in FuHao last Saturday, the girl was small and cute with a mixed-blood look (my type!) and as soon as we got into the room. She starts telling me about how she spent the whole day shopping and that she is really tired and would like to go home and don't worry about her sitting fee. Being a nice guy I didn't really want to force her to stay and I had another girl so I said ok. She then takes me out of the room and starts talking to me about how she's going back to her hometown Henan blah blah blah. And after a while, she asks if I can keep a secret and tells me she lied and she is not on her period (WTF?) and that she will call me tomorrow so we can hang out "chu qu wan". At this point I just wanted to get back into the KTV room so I said sure whatever and let her go.
The next day, she calls me around 3pm and wanted to see me so I gave her my hotel room number and she came over at 4pm. We chatted for a while then she fell asleep on the bed. She woke up after 60 mins and we started fooling around and I ended up having my first pop. Then we went out for dinner with another ISGer, then back at my room with 2nd pop. She stayed over night and had my 3rd pop in the morning. After breakfast she wanted to go shopping to pick up her dress. Now I've never taken a KTV girl out shopping and thought, well if I buy her stuff that should be substitute for her fee (ie: 800 as she is a 2-5-8 girl) , I didn't confirm this with her. So we spent the morning and most of the arvo going around Pedestrian mall, she didn't buy anything and didn't ask me to. I ended up offering to buy her lugguage (price 380) and some toys (price 75) for her nephew as she was travelling the next day and wanted a new one. She then invited me back to her flat and we chatted again and she mentions that she's behind on her rent for 500 yuan. Ding Ding! I picked up the hint and did a mental calculation and said, look I'll take care of that for you. To me this would mean I paid her around 950 for her time which was fine. She seemed happy with this but when I got up to leave, she innocently asks: 'can I have another 200'? I didn't make a fuss and gave her the money.
So overall, I had a really good time with her. She was with me for over 24 hours, I had 3 pops and she was great GFE. Total damage was 1150. I will do it again but the only lesson is to negotiate and confirm her fees beforehand or not offer to buy her stuff when we went shopping.
If anyone has a similar story or have words of wisdom as to what to do in similar situations, I'd like to her about it!
Ok, my second experience with a red tag pick. This one was from Mayflower the Saturday before last. I didn't intentionally pick this red tag as when I picked her I asked the mommy if the girl can be taken out and was told yes. The girl was a cutie from SiChuan and great fun in the room. However, when it came time to leave, she says she has the period and can't go out. She wanted my number and said she'll call me when she's over it. I was like WTF? I ended up paying her 200 and went to the night market (thank god for that!) to satisfy xiao di di.
Having chatted to Dave afterwards he said I had 2 options: either I complain to the mommy who then would fine the girl (500 I think it is) or just play nice and meet her another time. I did the latter as I would not want to fine a girl unless she really deserved it (like that shitty tantrum girl from FuHao reported by SE Joe the other day).
So this girl calls me late last week and we arrange to meet up on her day off. I told her upfront that I will pay her and we met up yesterday. To me, doing this is kinda feels like a date and after 10 days of non-stop KTV / BBS / Night Market it is a refreshing experience. Knowing her background I picked out a nice SiChuan restaurant that I found near the Pedestrian mall, they do great SiChuan food as even my girl was impressed. We then went playing pools in one of those street stalls, it's actually quite nice and you pay between 6-10 yuan per hour depending on the quality of pool table. So overall it was again a very nice GFE and to me it was enjoyable because you get to hang out with the girl 1-on-1 and sort of get to know her before the action. And both times, the action back in the room has been fantastic after this little extra effort spent getting to 'know her' a little as they are a lot more playful and active than what you would usually get from just getting a BBS or KTV takeaway.
Anyway, just my thoughts on the follow up that happens after you pick a red tagged girl. Don't pass them by just because they can't go out with you on the day as always there will be good rewards for those with a little patience!
Nail The World
03-15-11, 09:49
i was wondering if there's a long term hotel / serviced apartment type situation where i could pick a girl and stay for a month? or does it make sense to pick a girl from here and spend the month in shanghai / beijing while exploring the city and the opportunity to hit on non pros. i'll need high speed internet because i'll be working. shanghai does seem to have serviced apartments i can get immediately and it'll be a place i won't have any issues disclosing i am spending my time in. my start date could be in a few days to a few weeks.
around how much would the girl expect for a month?
Big Swingin Dave
03-15-11, 10:06
The "Weekend" (Friday / Saturday nights) rate at the Mayflower have increased to 318 for Standard Room and 348 for Deluxe (with Computer) Room. The weekday rates remains the same at 238/268.
BSD
Hey mate, you will be in for a good time this month as there is a good party of people in CP this month!
You should contact BSD regarding your bookings by private messaging as he does not respond to private booking details on this forum as it calls for personal details for hotel reservations. Just get a membership on ISG or look for his contact details in the classified section. He is very quick and will ensure you and your friends will have rooms for your trip!
CheersHi Rompz,
Thanks, mate.
OldAsiaHand
03-15-11, 14:42
They are sticking to their guns. Stopped by CP yesterday and the Yalan mommies clarify the new price of 250 RMB before they even take you into the BBS.
I reckon the supply and demand theory is spot on. This type of low end BBS action is becoming scarce all over South China and CP is the only place that seems to be resilient to crackdowns.
Too many punters chasing too little pussy.
Just my POV.
OAH
They are sticking to their guns. Stopped by CP yesterday and the Yalan mommies clarify the new price of 250 RMB before they even take you into the BBS.
I reckon the supply and demand theory is spot on. This type of low end BBS action is becoming scarce all over South China and CP is the only place that seems to be resilient to crackdowns.
Too many punters chasing too little pussy.
Just my POV.
OAHWell, the mommy told me that they still get 100 with the extra 50 going to the girl. So that makes me feel better as it is the girl receiving the benefit of the price increase. I've always thought the mommies get way too much as 100 just for grabbing punters off the street and showing them to the BBS whereas the girls get the same amount for going through a lot more. At least there's justification for the increase, just my POV.
Anyway, it's my last night in CP and I'm waiting for Santa to return my call to do a night market run. Where are you dude?
SE Asia Joe
03-15-11, 18:24
Well, the mommy told me that they still get 100 with the extra 50 going to the girl. So that makes me feel better as it is the girl receiving the benefit of the price increase. I've always thought the mommies get way too much as 100 just for grabbing punters off the street and showing them to the BBS whereas the girls get the same amount for going through a lot more. At least there's justification for the increase, just my POV.
Anyway, it's my last night in CP and I'm waiting for Santa to return my call to do a night market run. Where are you dude? "Fraid not mate!
Talked to a couple girls I know yesterday, when I was on a chicken run w / OAH and Santa and they both tell me that now they got to kick back and additional RMB 10 to the mommy on top of the RMB 100 that they already collected from the monger. Extra RMB 50 (I / o 40 previously) if they manage to do an overnight.
So now the gals end up with RMB 140 for ST and 450 for O / N. So yes a bit better for the gals, but the mommies always get their pound of flesh too!
SEAJ
Sardaukar1
03-15-11, 20:43
Thanks for the info. I guess it's worth the trip then. I'll surely give you guys a thorough report.
I heard the KTV girls are more wild, in a good way? And why are the saunas so awesome? I've been to many CP saunas and it's awesome already. How can ca saunas be so much more awesome? Oh no, I got to go see for myself now. CA KTV girls are more wild and more submissive compared to CP. But the CA KTV girls are uglier, no doubt about it.
Saunas. A lot more selection, a lot more saunas, higher # of WGs. CA is dubbed the "Sauna Kingdom" in DG (or is it China). CA is less foreigner-friendly than CP, so knowing Chinese will help you a lot in CA.
One of the cutest girls I've met was in a CA sauna. She kinda looks like Angelababy but much younger (17 year old)
Fast Eddie 48
03-15-11, 22:33
They are sticking to their guns. Stopped by CP yesterday and the Yalan mommies clarify the new price of 250 RMB before they even take you into the BBS.
I reckon the supply and demand theory is spot on. This type of low end BBS action is becoming scarce all over South China and CP is the only place that seems to be resilient to crackdowns.
Too many punters chasing too little pussy.
Just my POV.
OAHTo OAH,
It is long time since swan lake bbs st price is 200 rmb more than 10 yr, if hope price don't go up again next month during the canton fair, do you know price on the Hui mei bbs is still 150 rmb or they jack up the price also.
Fast Eddie 48
Ibn Buttita
03-16-11, 00:10
I liked that class on Comparative Politics in college. Or was it Comparative Literature? Anyway, I love ISG and have read plenty, but sometimes it's hard to compare different mongering destinations without getting some direct expert input. So my solution is to just ask. I'm planning one last major mongering bender in mid April (10-14 days). I hope not to give up the hobby, but in a few months I'll have to pursue it on 'l little here, a little there' basis. In short, one last full-on sex vacation coming up. Sooo. . .
Where to go? I know we have some well-traveled mongerers on the board, so I'm looking for some comparative perspective from guys who have been to the places on this board plus the others I list below. Here are my options; they seem like gaps in my mongering resume I need to fill. (One factor: I have to justify the trip as tourism, so for example a strictly Bangkok trip would definitely raise red flags). Here goes:
Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. . .
Brazil Cost to travel about $1400 Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.
Jakarta Cost to travel $650 Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity
Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.
Thanks for indulging my indecision!
No Chinese language. Big Problem IMHO.
I liked that class on Comparative Politics in college. Or was it Comparative Literature? Anyway, I love ISG and have read plenty, but sometimes it's hard to compare different mongering destinations without getting some direct expert input. So my solution is to just ask. I'm planning one last major mongering bender in mid April (10-14 days). I hope not to give up the hobby, but in a few months I'll have to pursue it on 'l little here, a little there' basis. In short, one last full-on sex vacation coming up. Sooo. . .
Where to go? I know we have some well-traveled mongerers on the board, so I'm looking for some comparative perspective from guys who have been to the places on this board plus the others I list below. Here are my options; they seem like gaps in my mongering resume I need to fill. (One factor: I have to justify the trip as tourism, so for example a strictly Bangkok trip would definitely raise red flags). Here goes:
Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. . .
Brazil Cost to travel about $1400 Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.
Jakarta Cost to travel $650 Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity
Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.
Thanks for indulging my indecision!
SE Asia Joe
03-16-11, 06:00
I liked that class on Comparative Politics in college. Or was it Comparative Literature? Anyway, I love ISG and have read plenty, but sometimes it's hard to compare different mongering destinations without getting some direct expert input. So my solution is to just ask. I'm planning one last major mongering bender in mid April (10-14 days). I hope not to give up the hobby, but in a few months I'll have to pursue it on 'l little here, a little there' basis. In short, one last full-on sex vacation coming up. Sooo. . .
Where to go? Thanks for indulging my indecision! Disclaimer. Besides Asia, I've only been to Mexico (City, DF) and N. America so I really don't know about other parts of S. America.
But I would first suggest that you figure out what race and quality of gals you actually favor before all else; according to you, this is supposedly one last hurrah. Prices etc should take a back seat to other consideration as the idea is to have a lasting and great fortnight.
Asia, well again the race, quality, service, GFE is very subjective. But I'd say that LOS and PI is probably more Caucasian Friendly than more North Asia. Especially if you favor the darker skinned Issan type girls. English should not be too much of a problem.
The "Golden Axis" of Hong Kong, Macau, Southern China IMHO (AND definitely my biased preference) will give you the best and most varied experiences. Hong Kong offers the cheap 141 gals (HK$250 up) , the +-HK$1, 000 Wanchai LOS / PI / S. America / even E. European gals, to the very overpriced KTV gals. Macau is for comparatively more expensive Sauna (+-HK$1600 for full package including ferry tickets - and here you can also get LOS/Vietnam etc gals besides of course Chinese ones!) or the HK$700 Lisboa race track PRC gals to the circa HK$2, 000 all-in KTV package.
Southern China, now that's a whole different ball of wax - and you reading these pages should give you a pretty good summary of what's available in Chang Ping (similar pricing elsewhere in S. China). Young, lighter and superior skin tone / very OK quality / service RMB 150-250 BBS gals, Circa RMB 800 all in / at least 2 pops / 2 hour / up to 40 different services Sauna experience, Circa RMB 350 KTV party fee + 2-5-8 or whatever grade gal you want. One thing though is NOT to expect much by way of great bodies especially their arses.
And of course if you don't speak Chinese, I would recommend that you MUST hook up with a Chinese speaking buddy or a good agent; otherwise, I'd think you'd get really lost / not able to avail yourself of most good things available.
Jeez. Last time I offered advise as above I got creamed by Wxx Cxxxxxx instead!
Cross my fingers, Hope, Oh well!
SEAJ
Dan Hawaii
03-16-11, 10:42
I'll be here until at least the 24th of March. Going to take a SIDE TRIP to AC during that period. Maybe we can get back on that Go-Karting track. I Think you got whiplash last time didn't you?
-JettNo I did not get whiplash. I actually t-boned bsdave and gave him whiplash. Maybe I rear ended him. Sorry BSD. Shux, going to chang an on March 21 to 24. You want to join us? Going with 3 other friends from Cali.
Are you going with wadman to AC??
Dan Hawaii
03-16-11, 10:52
Doesn't it involve your fingers?
-JettYes, your fingers and you need to go to a pet store to get a star fish.
Cunning Linguist
03-16-11, 11:55
No Chinese language. Big Problem IMHO.So true. You could argue that the "language of love" is international but who are we kidding? There is no actual "love" and what do you do after the deed? Smile, laugh, and talk with your hands? Who do you mime, for example,"my parents were poor but noble" with your hands?
Besides, it would be a real pain to have to negotiate with a third party in order to get a girl. And once you are in the hotel room, what if there is a problem?
I have seen guys in Haiti who knew only English and who thought they wouldn't need to know any Creole when they got it on with the girls but when there were problems, they turned to me to straighten things out. Sometimes the girls would go ballistic (the usual problem is that the guys would be doing a different girl a day) and the guy was clueless as to why (they thought that they could go from flower to flower without the girls caring. They do care. It is their paycheck).
Even in CP, I recall an incident when a girl went absolutely apeshit when she complained that the guy who had picked her in a KTV didn't pay much attention to her. And he spoke Chinese (a cultural misunderstanding in the end). Still, there was a misunderstanding between them and it took BSD and Bruce Tea to sort it all out. Imagine if someone who is bilingual in Chinese and English had not been around? They really don't speak English in CP. Hell, even their Mandarin sucks (nearly everyone speaks non-standard "Mandarins" from various parts of China like Hunan, Hubei, Sichuan, Guangdong, etc.) Looking for English-speakers there is like looking for someone to speak Chinese in Peoria or Chattanooga. You can find them but they are rare.
In conclusion, going to CP without at least basic Mandarin (or to a lesser extent, Cantonese) conversation skills is possible but it is a hassle for the punter, the girls, and certainly less enjoyable. I certainly enjoyed myself immensely when I was there and am raring to go back in August. And I am honing my Chinese skills to the max. Mandarin. Don't leave home without it!
Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. .
Brazil Cost to travel about $1400 Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.
Jakarta Cost to travel $650 Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity
Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.
Thanks for indulging my indecision! I don't know about indecision, but it is a tough one. I have been to all the places you mentioned and with the exception of Jakarta, made multiple trips. I will give you my take, but remember this is probably worth what you paid for it.
First So. Amer. If I could go to only one place in the world for girls it would be Argentina, but I have heard that sadly the scene in BA is nothing near what it was 6-7 yrs ago, and I suspect I would be very sad to return. Brazilian gals are the most sexual beings I have ever met, and some of them are off the charts beautiful, but you are correct that the prices have gotten really expensive and the dollar isn't doing well anywhere. One place you didn't mention that would be my first choice in So. Amer is Medellin, I have been a couple of times and NEVER had a bad visit and there are some interesting things to see when you need to rest your decision maker. The girls are beautiful, GFE, and plentiful at reasonable price. Columbia is no more dangerous than most places as long as you aren't stupid and this would be my top non-Asian destination at this time.
Now for the Asian spots, HK, is a great town and lots going on, a little expensive for hotels, etc. But Wanchai has many different nationalities, the girls get all dolled up, and for the most part 1k to 1. 5K will be the total bill for reasonable night out girl included. If you don't go crazy on drinks. Like maybe one LD. If diversity is what you want HK is the best bet for getting it all in one place.
Now, to go thru life without experiencing a night or two at a CP KTV would be a shame if you like Chinese girls at all. I don't have mandarin skills but still manage to have fun at the KTV in CP. The sight of 500-1000 19-25 yr old cute girls all dressed hoping that I will pick them is spectacular, and I enjoy the games, interaction with the guys in the rooms and the other girls as well. The sex after wards tends to be pretty ordinary, as I have only met one KTV girl (or any Chinese girl) that was a GFE by my western definition. The good thing is CP is only a short train ride from HK, and well worth a night or two. I had a good time in Macau, but not enough to really want to go back anytime soon, but then saunas aren't my big draw item and that is what Macau is all about.
The other place I think is worth a side trip is to AC in the Philippines. It is inexpensive and the amount of cute little Pinoy gals available is almost unbelievable, you can literally fly R / T from HK for less than 200USD, and again it is a "bucket list" location for mongers. Of course I like the fils gals, they are cute and tend to be very GFE and willing partners.
If it was my trip and I lived in the eastern part of the US, I would go to Medellin for a week or so, and have the time of your life. If I lived out west, I would head to HK, don't know how many days you have, but go to CP for at least 2 nights. You can try out some of the treats from Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, or Philippines all in Wanchai, and if you go to Kowloon on a good night, try one of the Northern Sisters from Mongolia. I wouldn't recommend the Mongolian gal for the faint of heart, but if my experience is any indication, a lifetime achievement award.
I probably didn't help much, but now at least you have one opinion.
Hope you write back with the details of the adventure!
Sky
Dan Hawaii
03-16-11, 18:13
I had a similar experience with picking a red tag girl. She was from Yi Hao KTV, I think that's the name. Across from Jia Yi next to the river. Anyways, she was tall and smoking hot. The only reason nobody took her was because she was on her rags. I kept coming back to her in the line up because she was that hot. And finally I gave in and just took her. She was good fun in the room and was as GFE as could be without doing the deed. My friend started to talk to her and asked when she was going to be off her rags and made a date for me to meet up with her. Wow was it the best GFE and her body was even more awesome looking without her clothes on. You know some girls look better with clothes on and some girls look hotter with their clothes off. She was so much "all that" I took her for 4 days straight. Only cut short because my vacation was over. Good thing because it was hard to leave her and would have been harder more if I stayed with her any longer.
Ok, my second experience with a red tag pick. This one was from Mayflower the Saturday before last. I didn't intentionally pick this red tag as when I picked her I asked the mommy if the girl can be taken out and was told yes. The girl was a cutie from SiChuan and great fun in the room. However, when it came time to leave, she says she has the period and can't go out. She wanted my number and said she'll call me when she's over it. I was like WTF? I ended up paying her 200 and went to the night market (thank god for that!) to satisfy xiao di di.
Having chatted to Dave afterwards he said I had 2 options: either I complain to the mommy who then would fine the girl (500 I think it is) or just play nice and meet her another time. I did the latter as I would not want to fine a girl unless she really deserved it (like that shitty tantrum girl from FuHao reported by SE Joe the other day).
So this girl calls me late last week and we arrange to meet up on her day off. I told her upfront that I will pay her and we met up yesterday. To me, doing this is kinda feels like a date and after 10 days of non-stop KTV / BBS / Night Market it is a refreshing experience. Knowing her background I picked out a nice SiChuan restaurant that I found near the Pedestrian mall, they do great SiChuan food as even my girl was impressed. We then went playing pools in one of those street stalls, it's actually quite nice and you pay between 6-10 yuan per hour depending on the quality of pool table. So overall it was again a very nice GFE and to me it was enjoyable because you get to hang out with the girl 1-on-1 and sort of get to know her before the action. And both times, the action back in the room has been fantastic after this little extra effort spent getting to 'know her' a little as they are a lot more playful and active than what you would usually get from just getting a BBS or KTV takeaway.
Anyway, just my thoughts on the follow up that happens after you pick a red tagged girl. Don't pass them by just because they can't go out with you on the day as always there will be good rewards for those with a little patience!
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