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Brought a girl back to my room last night. After she undressed I found out that she has longer armpit hair than I do, and there's a long hair coming out of her right breast. Rather repulsive. Not the first girl I've come across with body hair but this one was just gross. What should I do in this situation? Send her away? Pay her and send her away? In the end I closed my eyes and banged her anyway, but today all I can think about is all that hair and I'm pretty sure I will not be getting another girl anytime soon.
Brought a girl back to my room last night. After she undressed I found out that she has longer armpit hair than I do, and there's a long hair coming out of her right breast. Rather repulsive. Not the first girl I've come across with body hair but this one was just gross. What should I do in this situation? Send her away? Pay her and send her away? In the end I closed my eyes and banged her anyway, but today all I can think about is all that hair and I'm pretty sure I will not be getting another girl anytime soon.That's sick. I would send her back and tell the mommie if you had one that you don't like what you see and ask for another one. Personally, I would give her 50 or 100rmb for being a good sport and send her on her way.
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Royal Garden hotel at Dalang town about 30 min taxi from Changping one of the largest and nicest hotel in Dongguan, there are a KTV and sauna inside the hotel but the sauna have been going down hill since it open about 7 yr ago, I am not in China still back in the US but I am sure someone will PM you.
Fast Eddie 48Hi Fast Eddie,
Thank you for your help. It's truly appreciated.
If I am unsuccesful in hooking up with any ISG'ers, will a taxi be able to take me to Changping? I know almost no Chinese.
If I do make it to Changping, how is the flying solo thing? Based on my experiences in the hostess bars in Bangkok, it would be pretty boring without a group.
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Bob Sacamano
07-11-11, 16:10
That's sick. I would send her back and tell the mommie if you had one that you don't like what you see and ask for another one. Personally, I would give her 50 or 100rmb for being a good sport and send her on her way.Well, to each his own. I love the armpit hair, although I'll admit that most of them have much more than me. Up here in Dongbei, you'll almost never see a girl who shaves her armpits. Ride a bus during the summer months and you'll see. :) I guess it's because of the long, cold winters. I was in Beijing one summer and it seemed that it was the opposite, most of them were shaved / waxed / plucked. From my handful of experiences in CP I think that about half of them were hairless. It probably depends on where the girl is from. Good advice, Cp141. If a girl has something unattractive that you couldn't see when clothed, give her a 50 or a red Mao and send her on her way.
IlikePie, on the subject of an undesirable one, or one with a bad attitude, just do her doggie-style. That way you don't have to look at her. I think that's why man invented that position, he-he.
Fast Eddie 48
07-11-11, 23:11
Hi Fast Eddie,
Thank you for your help. It's truly appreciated.
If I am unsuccesful in hooking up with any ISG'ers, will a taxi be able to take me to Changping? I know almost no Chinese.
If I do make it to Changping, how is the flying solo thing? Based on my experiences in the hostess bars in Bangkok, it would be pretty boring without a group.
Main StTo Main st
I think you should contact your local business partner and try the KTV in your hotel, there are many other KTV in Dalang town or Changan are only 15 min away, you can have the hotel manager to get a taxi for you to Changping.
Fast Eddie 48
As was rumored, BSDave does indeed host great parties. Shout out to all those who were there last night (Chris, Eric, Roy) , and a report to come following tonight's mayhem.
William Saw
07-12-11, 12:01
Hello, all first time arriving in CP on the 28th July back to Singapore on the 1st August
Spent many many years hanging around indonesia espically batam now trying out China.
Need just one good karaoke joint where one can do all the sex nonsense heard that fantasy KTV.
At flower street is good not to much on intercourse but cannot live without a good BJ so any place.
Where one can get a good BJ.
Thanks in advance any adivse you guys need on batam let me know.
To Main st
I think you should contact your local business partner and try the KTV in your hotel, there are many other KTV in Dalang town or Changan are only 15 min away, you can have the hotel manager to get a taxi for you to Changping.
Fast Eddie 48Thanks Fast Eddie. Appreciate your help.
Jettsetter
07-13-11, 17:25
As was rumored, BSDave does indeed host great parties. Shout out to all those who were there last night (Chris, Eric, Roy) , and a report to come following tonight's mayhem.Hey Azncat, best to keep names to yourself unless you know their handles. Don't think most guys need their names advertised. I know you're just putting first names and it seems harmless, but it's not hard to put 2 and 2 together with some folks and unless folks are volunteering their real names, it's best that you just keep those real names to yourself. Handles of course are totally fine, but that's why we have handles. Otherwise, I'm sure most of my brothers would agree that you just acknowledged the evening and "everyone who was there".
Just my two mao here, some of you may not care, but I know about 90% of the folks that I've met and hung out in my near decade of going to CP would agree with me. Discretion is always good on this board and especially in CP.
-J
Well, to each his own. I love the armpit hair,I'm firmly in the don't like it camp, but I have asked two girls who I liked other than that to shave it and supplied a razor and shaving cream.
And both complied. I simply explain that it is ladylike and hairy stuff is guy like. I think of them as a beautiful lady don't want to think of a man.
They quickly comply. It is more of a cost / social thing for them. The ones unshaven tend to be new, as western culture is pervading
Many parts of life they are shaving and becoming more ladylike and less farmgirls.
Now shaving down below is a totally different option, and I suppose if a girl likes you enough she might. I have given a haircut.
Before though, again on the basis. You cut your head hair and make it look pretty lets make that look pretty too. Complete shave though.
Is a tough sell.
As was rumored, BSDave does indeed host great parties. Shout out to all those who were there last night (Chris, Eric, Roy) , and a report to come following tonight's mayhem.Hey Azncat,
Glad you had a good time and got to experience CP. You are correct, at least the KTV part is not the least expensive alternative, but I like it. I will agree with Jetsetter's comments as it is probably better to stick with "handles" than "real" names.
I hope to catch up with you when you are next in town. I know you will be! I'm betting you have a pretty good case of "CPitis", hard to deny the pull of the SOP!
Sky
LovingAsia
07-15-11, 19:37
Looking for a hotel with wifi. Do any of these have wifi?
Swan lake hotel.
Yalan hotel.
Hui mei hotel.
Can you pick up wifi in coffee bars, or other public places?
SE Asia Joe
07-16-11, 06:44
Looking for a hotel with wifi. Do any of these have wifi?
Swan lake hotel.
Yalan hotel.
Hui mei hotel.
Can you pick up wifi in coffee bars, or other public places?You're going to have more luck if you bring your LAN line!
For sure the Swan Lake has computer connectivity but not sure about WIFI, Yalan I doubt has anything whilst the Hui Mei should (not sure) have internet access.
Why don't you contact them and ask?
There is a Starbucks in town where there is WIFI.
SEAJ
Jettsetter
07-16-11, 08:30
lots of hong kong cafe's have wifi. legends by clipper, man lian by miraton, even pozilim and the new footie place upstairs from pozilim have wifi availability. lots of wifi all over. now how quick the wifi is up to debate. i find starbucks to be good but a pain to use (having to have a cell number to send a text to in order to get a code and password). the legends cafe is a good high speed one. but the food has been bad lately.
in terms of hotels, the only hotel with active wifi in the room that i know of is virgin. clipper, huihua, miraton, hui mei, etc. the major ones i've seen all have in room wired internet. however, you can bring a little hot spot and create your own wi fi experience.
the caveat to all this is that you may have wifi, but crappy speed in terms of internet! that's the ultimate downside.
i've had lots of experiences with internet and getting the best speed possible. i'm even trying to up my speed at my place in cp. thus far my own apartment has the fastest internet i can readily get. i'm hoping to step it up one more so i can do anything and everything.
good luck.
-j
LovingAsia
07-16-11, 09:15
Thanks guys for the helpful info on internet access.
There was a post about meeting girls on QQ, but it's a bit hit and miss.
Would any of your care to share the QQ numbers of nice KTV / bbs girls you have met who are in and around Dongguan?
Share it on this forum or pm me?
LovingAsia
07-16-11, 10:44
No success in finding websites for the main hotels.
Huihua, huimei, virgin.
Everytime I search I get pages from trip advisor.
I want to see what the prices are like
Looking for a hotel with wifi.Walter (Hua Tai) Hotel advertises with WiFi in the whole hotel.
I will be there in 3 weeks and hope the info is true!
Greetings form Konsul
I'm firmly in the don't like it camp, but I have asked two girls who I liked other than that to shave it and supplied a razor and shaving cream.
And both complied. I simply explain that it is ladylike and hairy stuff is guy like. I think of them as a beautiful lady don't want to think of a man.
They quickly comply. It is more of a cost / social thing for them. The ones unshaven tend to be new, as western culture is pervading
Many parts of life they are shaving and becoming more ladylike and less farmgirls.
Now shaving down below is a totally different option, and I suppose if a girl likes you enough she might. I have given a haircut.
Before though, again on the basis. You cut your head hair and make it look pretty lets make that look pretty too. Complete shave though.
Is a tough sell.IMHO, hairy armpits on girls are just gross, but hey to each his own.
On a related topic, there was 1 SN chick I had in CP really digs armpits, and during 1 session, she gave it a good lick, and it was excellent, I felt like I was in 1 of those fetish JAVs, and she was really into it. It's not so much the feeling is good, but the eroticism and fetishism that's a big turn-on for me. This kind of service was 1 of the reasons I kept going back to her, and having her as +1. Unfortunately, she has left the SN scene.
This thread stirs up the bizarre fetishism I have with armpits.
Does any SN connoisseur out there have had such service in the past? Do you mind sharing the talent information over PM?
Thanks for the info in advance!
Staid
LovingAsia
07-16-11, 15:55
Wondering whether to bring over adult toys or get them in town.
The toys are made in China, but still not sure whether the stores in CP offer any kind of decent range of toys.
Has anyone seen rabbit pearl vibrators in the stores?
LovingAsia
07-16-11, 19:17
Whilst looking around for QQ numbers, I came across this site which has some ads placed with QQ numbers of ladies in and around Shenzhen.
http://www.snmimi.com/
While it does have ads, I'd stay away because there may be the odd scam. I don't know. May be someone here knows about this site and can tell us if it's any good.
Fact remains is that sharing QQ numbers among ourselves is probably the way to go.
Wondering whether to bring over adult toys or get them in town.
The toys are made in China, but still not sure whether the stores in CP offer any kind of decent range of toys.Don't know about DG but I know that there is a wholesale market place in Guangzhou that are loaded with toys along with aftermarket knockoffs V and C's. You are close enough, only a 30-minute train ride away.
Mmlouie
StinkyFeet
07-16-11, 22:36
Thanks guys for the helpful info on internet access.
There was a post about meeting girls on QQ, but it's a bit hit and miss.
Would any of your care to share the QQ numbers of nice KTV / bbs girls you have met who are in and around Dongguan?
Share it on this forum or pm me?I have a ton of QQ numbers ( 80) but none of them wanted to be "shared".
I know 70% of my contacts do the job on a seasonal basis (3-6 months out of the year). Some only did it for shot term and quit after they finished making the money they needed. Some retire for months even years before returning once there savings are wiped clean. It on depends I guess.
Sardaukar1
07-17-11, 00:11
Does any SN connoisseur out there have had such service in the past? Do you mind sharing the talent information over PM?Interesting. I've had my fair share of SN experience but never have I met a girl who digs armpits so much. What kind of girl was she (young / old, tall / short, fair / dark skin. Etc)?
ManonsanBoy
07-17-11, 09:30
Went Friday; lots of good looking merchandise but prices have gone up. 500 to sit with you. 2000 ST and 2500 LT. Inflation I guess.
Interesting. I've had my fair share of SN experience but never have I met a girl who digs armpits so much. What kind of girl was she (young / old, tall / short, fair / dark skin. Etc)?My recollection was she's cute (7/10 in my book) , mid length hair, pale skin, wild in bed, but pretty clueless. Well, at least she appears to be, may be it was her act. .
Cheers,
Staid
Fast Eddie 48
07-18-11, 00:15
Went Friday; lots of good looking merchandise but prices have gone up. 500 to sit with you. 2000 ST and 2500 LT. Inflation I guess.To Manonsanboy
This KTV is one of the highest price in Dongguan where all the rich Hong konger and business owner go to, I agree girl are hot and older than the one in CP if money are no problem this is the place to go.
Fast Eddie 48
Sardaukar1
07-18-11, 06:01
The girls at GV are in 3 categories: 2/5/8, 3/8/12, and 5/20/25. Apparently you're talking about the highest end models, who are actually not that pretty in my books. They're just TALL with very average face and body.
IMHO, much better picks (in overall looks) are in the 3/8/12 category and I recommend bros to look there instead. The chance of scoring GFE with 3/8/12's are higher too.
Went Friday; lots of good looking merchandise but prices have gone up. 500 to sit with you. 2000 ST and 2500 LT. Inflation I guess.
SE Asia Joe
07-19-11, 11:20
The girls at GV are in 3 categories: 2/5/8, 3/8/12, and 5/20/25. Apparently you're talking about the highest end models, who are actually not that pretty in my books. They're just TALL with very average face and body.
IMHO, much better picks (in overall looks) are in the 3/8/12 category and I recommend bros to look there instead. The chance of scoring GFE with 3/8/12's are higher too.The biggest problems with these type of KTV's catering to the locals is NOT only the absolute price / cost there, but in the "attitude."
These places do cater to the rich locals, the Taiwanese / Hong Kong factory owners, the local government or Triad Big shots, and WILL lay out the red carpet for them. Knowing that these guys spends lavishly without blinking an eye. Then we "regular mongers' come along and unless we are prepared to also spend like a drunken sailor, will get "attitude" from the Managers, Mommies, staff and worse, the gals themselves. They ALL know that the regular monger is too sensible to be throwing money like confetti PLUS they reason: These guys ain't going to come back / will never be a "regular" for us anyway, so why bother?!
Complaints get unheeded as they're ALL cut of the same cloth, and thus we're left to fend for ourselves.
We either "cut our loss" and just never come back or else, are forced to emulate the big spenders. FOR WHAT?
The way I look at it, it just ain't worth it to go to these places UNLESS you're with a regular big spender client there; MAN they'd practically eat your shit then!
Just my POV.
SEAJ
Just my POV.
SEAJBut your POV is spot on. Unfortunately it is beginning to affect places in CP in my opinion. Bandao for one, on Friday.
And Saturday, I clearly see previews for regulars well before any girls even make it to the hallways. But the quality makes BD.
Good for other nights.
Eurasia. We were once moved not once, twice, but three times to a 'better' room BSD was not there to tell them to fuck off and the guys in the.
Room complied until we were not on the main floor, on a sub floor at a dead end hallway. Most of us actually left after the
Lack of pickings (during crackdown no flower street)
Crown Prince is so full of themselves (ok not CP but close) , same bad attitude from girls and to non-regular customers.
Yihao has not hit this level yet, they are more expensive for alcohol, the girls seem pretty good there although we all know they.
Drove up the rates. And the models are simply not worth it, not even to sit, not even pretty. Their flower street is saving them, else.
They will go the way of BD and EA.
Has anyone else noticed how ugly the girls are at fuhao for the past 6 months. It is really hard to find a gem, and the models are what used.
To be 2/5/8 levels. There are a few new 258s but they get taken fast or they have bad attitudes so the management won't put them in higher.
Categories.
Sardaukar1
07-21-11, 03:56
Has anyone else noticed how ugly the girls are at fuhao for the past 6 months. It is really hard to find a gem, and the models are what used.Fuhao has been on my blacklist for who knows how long. Don't know what happened there.
Jon Guoren
07-21-11, 19:30
This report is long overdue. Firstly, I have to say that the positive comments about BSD on this forum are wholly warranted. BSD went absolutely out of his way to ensure I felt safe, alongside a friend and welcome to party as a foreigner (gringo) in CP. I had a meal with BSD and his girlfriend on the first day. I went to wrong hotel at first and so kept Dave up 25 minutes waiting for me at HuiMei (I went to HuaMei). I think I got that right. So I thought he was late, he thought I was late, but then we connected and I got to the right hotel.
BSD had booked me into a big sized room at the Swan Lake and the price was awesome. Around 230 RMB per night. I took a girl from the second line up, but the second time I went, I took one from the 4th line up. It is definitely worth asking for another line up until you find a girl you REALLY want but you'll have to simply overcome the pressure to pick one and the mama trying to persuade you which girl is good.
I arranged for the girl to come to my room the first time and she did BJ with CIM in shower first followed by a menu of about 30 different mechanical moves which she had to keep referring to, including rimming, boob rub up and down body, sucking water on back and so on. Finally ended up mishing her off the end of the bed for about 15 minutes before spunking my load in the sheath.
I remember her words clearly "how come you're so good?" at the end and felt delighted. It wasn't a GFE but she certainly was happy for the thing to be worth the money in terms of letting me have it all (twice).
I told BSD that I could not find any BBS's on the first night and so opted for a Swan Lake sauna experience (in my room). He was shocked as there are so many touts outside Clipper and that street, so I found out I was looking for the barber shops I was used to (like pink light places) but the BBS' in CP are rooms full of 10-20 country girls, many looking grumpy and disinterested but always one or two smilers.
In the vicinity of the hotels, the BBS' are always 250 RMB (150 to mama and 100 to girl). I never tried as BBS. Within 30 seconds of the restaurant with BSD, I told him I wasn't having luck finding the BBS' and he said he knew a mama right where we were. He made a call and the woman appeared within 1 second (not kidding). I then had a contact offering 150RMB for 1 hour girls and always a selection of 5-8. I did two in one day, one was a 7 looks. 10 service (a trainer) and the other was an 8. 5 looks and 8 service. Both were amazing experiences, like GFE and very friendly and fun experiences.
I should mention, in the evenings, it is possible to pick up any drunk girl on their way home from KTV. On one particular night, I met a "DJ". This means waitress really, who can control the KTV machine and serve generally at a party. She allowed me to do some stuff with her the next day, but nothing much, just finger through the knickers, touch body and kiss. At the end of about 1 and a half hours of foreplay, she put a massive guilt trip on me for not wanting to go to her KTV and eventually I just caved. I had a night there at the KTV where the food was good and the shows in the main room brilliant. I was on my own and the staff kinda used my room as a place to hang out, look at the foreigner, get some attention and eat my food. I spend 500RMB in the end, reluctantly and again, learned a lesson. This was Park Hyatt. I remember the KTV machine was nothing like as good as the one in FuHao in the main area mentioned above.
Now to my first KTV proper. I met a guy from HK and arranged to go to KTV. I had only just met BSD and thought I should handle CP alone, turning down the party experience. This was actually a big mistake. My first time in KTV I made a big mistake and went for a bad attitude girl. She was grumpy all night and giving me a real hard time about not wanting to come back to mine because I am a foreigner. Mistake number one was not firing her and moving on. Mistake number 2 was getting Chinese guys (like the manager who was eyeballing me THE WHOLE NIGHT "making sure I was having a good time" = acting like CCP inside the KTV!
My friend and I hired a lobby table (much cheaper than a room) and we ended up spending under 270 each for the whole evening including drinks, snacks, fruit and girls. Mistake number 2 was pushing to take this girl back. Back at the room, the girl was a real nightmare and I mean that. At one point I thought she was going to get me in trouble with a gang or the police. She wouldn't do anything with me except a tiny bit of kissing and a bit of a finger for her. She was useless and made it clear all she wanted to do was smoke and watch TV.
I wanted to give DATY but discovered she probably had gonorrhoea, her pussy absolutely STANK and was very swollen and lumpy. So I did not get to perform DATY or sex. I had a fairly polite go at her about her attitude, saying she shouldn't treat me so rudely, have such a bad attitude. She put on the tears big time and clutched her stomach saying she needed to go home. I was actually quite scared as I thought she was setting me up for some serious trouble. Eventually I kicked her out with 200 RMB as a token. She was about 21 and did not smile the whole evening almost.
I left quickly the next day vowing not to return to CP.
Two weeks later and I'm back with a vengeance! BSD gets me a room at the cheaper hotel, not as nice as clipper and only has regular massage, but you can still go to Swan or Clipper for massage as they have rooms for the sauna girls with shower for that awesome BBBJ with possible CIM to get you started for a 100 minute session or 80 mins whatever it is. 500RMB including 2 pops or more if you can manage it!
Now, I won't mention about the receptionist, because I'm coming back in a few weeks time for her. She has me very horny, and was up for a massage meeting in my room, but the timing and logistics didn't work out. I really hope to get to spend some romantic time with her when I come to CP in late August.
On my return, I have decided to have a first threesome. I meet with BSD who tells me I have a party to go to on the Friday. So I have 1 or 2 nights to have some fun. Night one, I meet two drunk DJ's. One is a 10 looks and attitude and another an 8 looks and 10 attitude. I have a bit of fun with them outside, sharing softdrinks and talking, testing the boundaries. I invite them up to my room (weh heh!) and I give them both a long massage, including getting off with one of them, feeling her tits, the other one give her generous ass squeezes, boob touches, see her knickers, bit of pussy play but not much. At the end of this I ask them to give me a hug and they both put their legs on me and rub my chest. No sex, but an amazing erotic and fun experience for FREE.
The next morning I go to the 150 RMB mamasan and order a threesome. The girls are rigid and robotic, but it is good fun. I get a BJ one eats the nips, then I screw the other one. The nip sucker is attitude 9, looks 7, the other is looks 8 and attitude.
I want the girls to get into each other but they clearly don't do that. They have their own routine and the 5 attitude one is particularly frigid it seems. The other one is ok with me guiding her to feel the tits of the other but the other is not up for it. The good attitude tries to make me C but I am too wary and get out of there to make sure I can mish the 5 attitude. She enjoys it, again squeezes me to try to make me C as quickly as possible. I should add that the 5 in attitude girl gets the 5 because when I got her to squeeze the ass of the other one while the other one was riding me, she complained 'he wants me to squeeze your ass' – the other one enjoyed it, but 5 in attitude complains and stops. She wants to be as passive as possible.
After mishing 5 in attitude, I change condom again and doggie style the 8 in attitude. She has me tight and eventually I am wanting to C quite quickly. I withdraw and she shoots into shower room not even realising I haven't C. So I tell the 5 in attitude and she grabs Big Willie and gives me the hardest jerk off I've ever had whilst holding me tight and letting me squeeze her ass, kiss her tits and so on. I spunk a big load all over the floor with her moaning and loving it. We have a laugh and then get showered. Total damage 300 RMB in total (150 RMB each). Could have been much better but for the money, I give it an 8.
Next night, I go to Swan Lake sauna. There's three drunk Chinese guys in the lift. We go into the picking room together. They act like I won't know what to do, but I'm there to prove I do! We all reject the first 2 lineups, even 3. Mamasan is trying to get me to pick but I'm not having any of it. Finally we all settle on a girl in lineup 4. I pick the petitist thing ever and she was amazing. Obviously she doesn't get picked often. I have a different taste in Chinese girls. The other guys seemed to think my choice was funny anyway, but I didn't care, because I knew it was the right one for me.
She was the sweetest thing. Gave great head, really friendly, open to conversation and gave me an OK BJ when I was ready in the shower, no hurry and happy to oblige. On the bed she was a total vixen. She just wanted more and more sex. She couldn't get enough of it. Eventually, she had to get me to finger her as she was playing with herself for a while as I'd got bored and she squirted all over my hand and the bed! It was really cool experience. Then we did more positions and eventually she got me to C again with use of her mouth and hand. 500RMB damage and well worth again.
Slept well that night after 1. 5 hours foot massage at 3 am.
Finally, the KTV party at the Amazon themed KTV with BSD. This was really, really cool. The damage was only 300RMB (bit more for those having extra beers). I was capped because I wasn't drinking that night. BSD got a cool room and there were a few people from Hong Kong there and the States. It was a wicked group. At flower street I learned that you absolutely MUST go only for a girl who is smiling at you. It means she likes you. Obey this rule and get a good night, disobey and risk an awful night. I picked a stunner, one of the best of the room without a doubt.
In the room, we played some drinking and dice games. I tried to play "Strip Dice" but we didn't get too far. BSD really helped me out by explaining to the girl I was a gentleman and not to worry that I was a foreigner basically as she started not wanting to come back. After BSDs help she loved me! Thank you BSD!
BSD arranged drinking games after we sang a few songs and got to know our women a bit more. The games caused the girls to enjoy the time and get very drunk in the process. BSD was loving it and so was everyone. After the games, we did some dancing together. I managed to get off with (french kissing) my girl and we danced together. One guy was quite drunk and went around dry humping most of the girls, but it was all good fun.
I left the other guys to get into their naked dancing (probably) and went out for dinner with my beauty. At the room, she was GFE all the way. We had a rapport and she trusted me thanks to the goodness of the BSD man. And he really is THE MAN. Just can't say it enough. She took a shower and got ready for me on the bed. DATY, she wanted bareback but I insisted on using a balloon. She was reluctant about BJ but I persuaded and she gave the most amazing head ever! Did loads of DATY, got her extremely wet and moaning until she could bear it no more and wanted me inside her. She had had about 3 customers total in 1 or 2 weeks on the job, I do believe here as she was really curious and enthusiastic and I can tell an actor from a mile off.
We had some sex. After about 45 minutes, she did start getting a bit sore or bored and wanted me to finish. I did eventually. She asked me for 900 RMB but I reminded her that it was only 500-600RMB if she was not staying. I gave her 500RMB and a tip of 10USD which she begged me for. I'd not given it to many of the girls who had asked for tips, but since I was supposed to pay 600RMB, I was OK with it. Total damage for whole night was 800RMB + about 50RMB for drinks and meal.
The only experience pretty much I've left off is that on the way home from exploring one night, firstly, someone had died and there were a lot of people paying respect to the dead person in the room (just in a public street) which was kind of sobering and interesting. But on my way home, or on the way home another night, there was a slightly porky drunk girl and I played my luck and asked her if she wanted to have some fun. She said yeah. I thought I might have scored a freebie but no.
In the room she started obsessing about getting beers or a bottle of wine. She was already very drunk. I couldn't control her and even though she called reception she was unable to get the booze for herself. So anyway I start getting off with her passionately and trying to take it to the next level. Then she says stop we need to talk money first. I want her by this point and budget a few hundred. She asks for 500RMB I say no way. I say 400RMB she says OK. Then I realise I should have come in lower and I then say 300RMB. She accepts this lower offer!
She is very horny and I pull away her knickers and give her some DATY and get her tits out. She is a "semi-pro"/"pro" and I have to admit to you guys that I did the "unthinkable" and gave her a bareback hump in three positions. She just got me steamingly lustful and horny and I fully regretted this afterwards not believing what I had done. I will hopefully NEVER succumb to this temptation again, but in the end have to accept it happened. She took a shower and was off. It was a short and sexy session. 300RMB damage and probably a little high, but she was a great humping.
All in all, CP is amazing. It is different and unlike Thailand or even other parts of China, you definitely don't get "worshipped" as a foreigner. There are some girls curious, but a lot are quite apprehensive. It is the first place in Asia I've been where it actually is of benefit to you in terms of getting the girls to be Asian, so if you're Chinese, you're going to love CP. If you are a gringo like me, you absolutely MUST have some experience of China OR stick with everything BSD says or you will probably find trouble.
I remember arriving in my taxi (by the way the taxis will try to rip you off for sure and never want to use meter. Won't let you in if you want meter for a 7RMB journey, they will want 10RMB cash). And four guys had a bald guy by his arms and legs while another gang member smashed his head with his fist many times. I felt I'd arrived in "Vice City" and I had! But you can have a lot of fun if you hang out with the party crew and BSD and if you are a lone mongermaniac like me, you can definitely have a lot of fun for not much money.
See you in August CP!
Best.
Jon Guoren.
My theory on fuhao is that they were a low barrier to entry place, meaning low fee for girl, they didn't have a uniform do buy on day 1, they are more lax with rules about coming to work, no food fines etc. A lot of new girls circulated through there 2-3 years ago. Alas Mayflower opened providing a similar no uniform day 1, weekend passes and lax work rules (except for the fines) , AND they always had alot of customers every single day of the week, they sucked off alot of the newcomers taking the stock away from fuhao. Secondly the better looking girls that were established at fuhao went to yihao for the extra 100 on the fees. I know a 2-5-8 that became a 3-7-10 at fuhao, and while a sweetheart, not worth the upgrade, kind of a chubby girl, but cute and good fun.
Most of the girls still at fuhao from a long time before, only work a few days a week, some have attitude problems that extend to refusing customers. Not supposedly allowed anywhere but I have seen it happen from two I know at fuhao and they are be*tches. Fuhao used to be the best of the 2nd tier places with constantly new girls, now they don't have the pull.
Mayflower because of its size, location and 'compound' atmosphere, seems to continually draw in new customers and hence the girls, hell they sucked away enough talent and customers to close their own location Jia yi.
I wish just one place in CP would differentiate and start at 9pm rather than 6pm, much better to do dinner than a show than a show than dinner. I for one am sick of KTV food, and one can only order so much McD. Think about it. The latest start is a 7pm at Haixia. Yihao starts 6. 45, some places if you aren't there by 5. 30 previewing forget it. Sometimes I would like to try a 9. 30pm sitting just in time to catch the throwaways at 10pm which are often pretty good. There are alot of KTV parties going from 6-10, and the girls can't leave until 12 at most places. Around 10pm there is alot of decisions that leave one quality girl back in the pool (or she is a be*tch).
I had good success with this at Eurasia, Yihao, even Fuhao. Maybe next trip.
Totally agree with you on this. We usually start partying at 6 pm and by the time 9 or 10 pm rolls around I'm ready to get out of there. Would be nice to start around 8 or 9 pm and that way we could all leave around 12 or 1 am. One thing that our crew has done from time to time is to get there at 6 pm and pick our girls. Then put them in the room and we go out and eat. Then we come back an hour later on a full stomach and let the games begin!
I wish just one place in CP would differentiate and start at 9pm rather than 6pm, much better to do dinner than a show than a show than dinner. I for one am sick of KTV food, and one can only order so much McD. Think about it. The latest start is a 7pm at Haixia. Yihao starts 6. 45, some places if you aren't there by 5. 30 previewing forget it. Sometimes I would like to try a 9. 30pm sitting just in time to catch the throwaways at 10pm which are often pretty good. There are alot of KTV parties going from 6-10, and the girls can't leave until 12 at most places. Around 10pm there is alot of decisions that leave one quality girl back in the pool (or she is a be*tch).
I had good success with this at Eurasia, Yihao, even Fuhao. Maybe next trip.
Sardaukar1
07-22-11, 04:45
I wish just one place in CP would differentiate and start at 9pm rather than 6pm, much better to do dinner than a show than a show than dinner.Well why not just eat dinner earlier. You go to CP for the girls not its cuisine. Just get dinner over with at 5:30pm and then enjoy KTV afterwards without worrying about food.
Fast Eddie 48
07-22-11, 07:17
Well why not just eat dinner earlier. You go to CP for the girls not its cuisine. Just get dinner over with at 5:30pm and then enjoy KTV afterwards without worrying about food.To Sardaukar
I like to go to KTV early also on weekend KTV room get book up early and the hot one get pick fast, you can alway pick the girl and take them out for dinner many resturant open late even 24 hr, but during the week sometime you need to wait for freind from HK and buinsess partner from Dogguan city to get off work you don't get to the KTV until after 9 pm by then most girl is already get pick.
I don't think any KTV will open after 9 pm risk losing business to other KTV, I think 5pm is the best time for the KTV to open if you don't pick a girl then is still early enough to get something to eat and hit the Sauna by midnight and stay overnight.
Fast Eddie 48
Totally agree with you on this. We usually start partying at 6 pm and by the time 9 or 10 pm rolls around I'm ready to get out of there. Would be nice to start around 8 or 9 pm and that way we could all leave around 12 or 1 am. One thing that our crew has done from time to time is to get there at 6 pm and pick our girls. Then put them in the room and we go out and eat. Then we come back an hour later on a full stomach and let the games begin!Totally agreed. It's more relax to go KTV pick the gals and go eat. Why have to eat at 4-5pm when not even hungry just becoz you want to go KTV before all the good ones chosen.
She is a "semi-pro"/"pro" and I have to admit to you guys that I did the "unthinkable" and gave her a bareback hump in three positions. She just got me steamingly lustful and horny and I fully regretted this afterwards not believing what I had done. I will hopefully NEVER succumb to this temptation again, but in the end have to accept it happened.Scumbag, you should know better. Unlike Thailand, most of these girls in China are only in the biz for a short time. Try finding her in Aug when you are back? Try finding her next year will even be harder. Have you done the same in other places, the unthinkable.
OldAsiaHand
07-23-11, 06:14
The frequency of my review and posting on this forum continues to decrease as I focus more on freebies and less on P4P. Truth be told, I cannot manage 3-4 BBS girls in a day anymore like I used to.
I am pleased to see so many new punters posting relavent reports and keeping the board alive. That said, I have noticed that SEAJ has stolen my tagline,"Just my POV".
I was in CP this week. Hooked up with BSD and his better half for lunch and he gave me the current rundown. My wingman turned up from Shenzhen later and we hit the chicken run.
The best selection of talent is still in the BBS with 2 rooms just down the road from the Clipper. Across the street, we saw 3-4 BBS but the quality and selection was limited. Our old friend, who we all liked so much when he was operating in the Hui Mei area, is now operating one of these BBS. He still locks you in and is as aggressive as he was before. Something about this guy just rubs me the wrong way. He had a couple of girls I would have done but I just don't want to give him any business.
I had a footie at the Clipper in between BBS girls and I bought out my masseuse (2 extra hours left for the day) for dinner with the promise that she would come to my room afterwards. This was the second time I picked her at the footie. When we got to the room, she started making excuses and would not let me do her. She gave me some bullshit about how she kept her promise since she was in my room. Finally, she told me that she would only give me a massage for the half hour left and would be on her way. It was a total waste of time and money, albeit not much money in reality. It seems that in this case, she is playing with fire if the punter is not as reasonable about it as I was in the room. Anybody else had similar experience with veggie footie girls in CP? I have done a few footie girls in the past in various places around China albeit after seeing them in their place of work for longer periods of time.
Anyway, I did 3 BBS girls, nothing special really, just run of the mill quality and service for 250RMB per girl.
The BBS action in CP remains the same. Same old thing, different locations, higher prices. BTW, Santa is sorely missed. I saw many of his girls seriously depressed since he has left town. I did one of his favorites in his honor. All the mamas were asking when he is coming back. They are waiting to cheer his return with their infamous,"XXXXXeeeeeee".
'Just my POV'.
OAH
Okay, I apologize for the name dropping. No more of that stuff for me. Here is the report that I promised to post a while back.
I travelled to CP for Mon / Tues night a few weeks ago to have some fun before I left the country for Taiwan. From past reports, I knew that the weekends usually resulted in a sea of sausages, so I assumed that coming during the week would probably be more efficient.
The short version is that BSD hosted two great parties that kept both guys and gals interested and involved.
Monday.
I took the Guangzhou to SZ train from Guangzhou East Station. BSD had a car waiting for me so that I could avoid the taxi scams. I got to the Clipper around 4 PM. The room was great! I relaxed in my room until it was time to party.
We went to Fuhao's KTV. BSD had told me that their lineup wasn't as good as some of the other KTVs (only 200-300 girls) , but I was still stunned by the Flower Street (which began around 6:45 PM). BSD rescued me and helped me choose my two girls.
Notes:
- BSD actually knows a lot of the girls and the mamas personally, so he'll be able to choose / recommend good girls for you. This is especially useful for the newbie, who'll usually just stand there – stunned by the selection.
- Something to keep in mind when you choose your ladies. They are all wearing push-up bras, fake eyelashes, and copious amounts of make-up. They will not look nearly as good once they remove all of it and tumble into bed with you.
- Everyone should pick at least two girls. Newbies should only pick two girls because having any more than that makes it harder to juggle the fun. One of the ladies usually ends up grumpy and bored.
There were four guests each with at least two girls (although one guy had like four or something.) , and BSD hosted the party. We got a dozen beers as well as two handles of whiskey (I think?). The party itself started out slow but quickly picked up pace as the drink began spilling.
Notes.
- BSD really knows his drinking games. He knows some great ways to get girls to drink and enjoy it.
- BSD doesn't usually pick a girl for himself unless a guest requests it and pays the sitting fee.
By the end of the night, all the girls were getting groped by everyone and enjoying it (or pretending to). There was very little singing that night, but grinding and dancing occurred all around. Everyone took a girl home for the night (one guy actually had another girl waiting in his room already, so he banged one girl there in a Fuhao room before going home). It was a lot of fun.
Summary: I took her home for LT. She had a stinky pooooooo. But her GFE in bed was insanely good and she really seemed to enjoy spooning and playing around. She did BBBJ reluctantly (although she was actually pretty good at it) and put in a decent amount of effort in cowgirl. She did the 'Did you cum yet? Cum already! ' routine about 15 minutes into the act. Idk about anyone else, but it was a huge turn-off for me. Completely spoiled the mood. Apparently they all do this.
Damages: 550 RMB for KTV + 300 sitting fee + 800 for LT. We ordered both whiskey and beer and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.
Tuesday.
BSD brought me to Pozilim for lunch and a real foot massage. It was a very relaxing experience. Afterwards, I headed back to the hotel to catch up on emails and rest up before the partying.
We went to May Flower's KTV tonight. If you arrive at the correct time, you'll get greeted by all of the DJs (who are all pretty attractive). They'll start a massive wave of bowing and all chant 'huan ying guang ling' (literally: welcome bright entry [or something like that]). It's quite the sight.
Flower Street started around 6 PM, and BSD (once again) walked the route with me. The mamas here are rather pushy, so you have to learn how to shake them off without being too rough. The selection was also much more diverse (400+ girls) , and I saw a few mamas I wouldn't have been against taking home (what can I say? I like older women as well.).
Notes:
- If you see a girl you like, you can either tell her to go to your room immediately, or ask her to walk Flower Street with you. If you see others that you like, you can tell the other girl to go back (or you can take them all). I remember seeing one guy walking Flower Street with three girls in tow, and mamas were still trying to push girls onto him.
- I strongly recommend against getting attached to a single girl, no matter how good she is. There are a lot of logical reasons for why I don't think you should do this, and I can elaborate further if someone should request it. For now, just take it as my personal opinion.
BSD hosted the party yet again. Another guest requested that BSD pick a girl, and offered to pay for her, so BSD picked a girl on her first night suggested by one of his friends. There were four of us yet again (not counting BSD) , and this party was even more fun than the previous one. We played a bunch of new and different games, including a dice version of truth or dare that resulted in some hilarious occurrences. There were a lot of groping, dancing, and singing. Everyone had a great time.
Summary: I was actually split between my girls. I picked the slimmer one with the sexier legs over the one with better tits and a better looking face. She was more fun#3 had a very slim figure and very sexy legs. #4 had great tits and a much better looking face. In the end, I chose #3 because she was slightly more fun at the KTV. She was not that good in bed. No BBBJ, cowgirl (said it hurt) , etc. We did straight missionary. Even though the deed itself was very boring, the GFE was great and she was very cute. I kept her LT.
Damages: 550 RMB + 300 sitting fee + 1000 LT. We ordered two rounds of beers and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.
Conclusion.
CP was a lot of fun. It's very hard to get it out of your mind even after you've left. If you're a newbie, I'the strongly recommend against going alone. You won't be able to have nearly as much fun by yourself. If you don't speak fluent Mandarin / Putonghua, I'the also strongly recommend against going alone. There are a lot of scams and thieves here, so safety is a serious concern. BSD can help you book hotels and organize your experiences here, and he won't ask you for a single penny. He gets commission from most of the places that he takes you to, and I actually saved money and partied harder with him.
Jon Guoren
07-23-11, 15:27
Scumbag, you should know better. Unlike Thailand, most of these girls in China are only in the biz for a short time. Try finding her in Aug when you are back? Try finding her next year will even be harder. Have you done the same in other places, the unthinkable.No I have not done the same in other places. And I've tripled my vigilance since this non-event. I'd rather not find her when I come back, she was a porky alcoholic and I don't want to get into that situation where I've lost control again. There needs to be some people doing sex education in this city, especially concerning covering up and STDs IMHO. 2 girls in 2 nights wanting BB over using CD. My record is pretty good, I reckon there's a heck of a lot of locals and visitors who never bother covering up at all. Cheers for the info though.
Jon Guoren
07-23-11, 15:34
Have you done the same in other places, the unthinkable.No, that is my point. I don't want to find her! And I have quadrupled my vigilance. I'm pretty sure many locals and visitors never bother to use CDs if they can help it. I have an excellent record for covering up. This was an exception which left me shocked at how out of control the situation had been. It is difficult when beautiful girls are begging you for sex and don't want you to cover up, but even still, I manage it 98% of the time, literally and intend to never go below that 98. CP needs sex educators to inform the girls of the risks as well as the guys. I'm sure a lot of the locals and older visitors simply don't give a dang, either culturally preferring not to cover or what have they got to lose attitude? All it takes is some nutcase with AIDS to go around barebacking a tonne of these sweethearts and a lot of people going to get a frickin' wakeup call. So did I do something wrong? YES! Have I learned from it? YES I fricking hope so.
[QUOTE=Azncat; 1179326]Okay, I apologize for the name dropping. No more of that stuff for me. Here is the report that I promised to post a while back.
Damages: 550 RMB for KTV + 300 sitting fee + 800 for LT. We ordered both whiskey and beer and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.
Tuesday.
Damages: 550 RMB + 300 sitting fee + 1000 LT. We ordered two rounds of beers and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.
Please pardon me if I am wrong but I do believe that the rate for LT includes the sitting fee and there is not need to pay the additional 300 RMB fee. In another word. 1000 LT covers everything including the 300 RMB sitting fee.
OldAsiaHand
07-24-11, 04:36
Summary: I took her home for LT. She had a stinky pooooooo. But her GFE in bed was insanely good and she really seemed to enjoy spooning and playing around. She did BBBJ reluctantly (although she was actually pretty good at it) and put in a decent amount of effort in cowgirl. She did the 'Did you cum yet? Cum already! ' routine about 15 minutes into the act. Idk about anyone else, but it was a huge turn-off for me. Completely spoiled the mood. Apparently they all do this.
Damages: 550 RMB for KTV + 300 sitting fee + 800 for LT. We ordered both whiskey and beer and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.
Summary: I was actually split between my girls. I picked the slimmer one with the sexier legs over the one with better tits and a better looking face. She was more fun#3 had a very slim figure and very sexy legs. #4 had great tits and a much better looking face. In the end, I chose #3 because she was slightly more fun at the KTV. She was not that good in bed. No BBBJ, cowgirl (said it hurt) , etc. We did straight missionary. Even though the deed itself was very boring, the GFE was great and she was very cute. I kept her LT.
Damages: 550 RMB + 300 sitting fee + 1000 LT. We ordered two rounds of beers and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.Azncat,
Great informative post! I can't help but to focus on your summaries. It seems that you paid a lot of money (maybe even too much) and ended up with poor service from the 2 KTV girls you took back. The first one was a "stinky poo" that wanted you to pop as quickly as possible and the second one was boring and refused everything but mish. And, you kept them LT. I am curious how you describe GFE. I would have thrown them out and complained to the mommy.
This is why I do not usually do KTV girls. It is much more expensive and you have the same chance of bad service as you do with a BBS girl for 250RMB ST. 500RMB LT. And, you can even take a good performer from BBS to the KTV with you to party.
Just my POV.
OAH
SE Asia Joe
07-24-11, 04:55
The frequency of my review and posting on this forum continues to decrease as I focus more on freebies and less on P4P. Truth be told, I cannot manage 3-4 BBS girls in a day anymore like I used to.
I am pleased to see so many new punters posting relavent reports and keeping the board alive. That said, I have noticed that SEAJ has stolen my tagline,"Just my POV".
The BBS action in CP remains the same. Same old thing, different locations, higher prices. BTW, Santa is sorely missed. I saw many of his girls seriously depressed since he has left town. I did one of his favorites in his honor. All the mamas were asking when he is coming back. They are waiting to cheer his return with their infamous,"XXXXXeeeeeee".
'Just my POV'.
OAHYeah. Got to admit that I have not been posting on here as frequently as before.
A combination of factors:
- The new engine used here is so slow and frustrating.
I have used IE, Firefox, Chrome etc to access, and the result remains the same. Takes forever for the page to come up.
Pictures are now also a pain to pull up. And when they do come up, are tiny still.
This auto correction forced on posts. It is so bad and instead serves to make a lot of posts a series of one liners that does not make sense.
- The quality of posts has really gone down IMHO:
Specifically on the Beijing thread which is now just a series of guerrilla marketing pieces by these crap shills for the call in services. Most senior and previously great reporters have basically disappeared and repeated reports to the Mods goes unheeded. With just one respond from him telling me to MYOB. OK!
I suppose he thinks that he's got enough members contributing that a few old ones don't matter. Interestingly though, I've also noticed that there is now no more Advertisements here.
- I have been posting on another site.
One that is specifically Hong Kong / China-centric. With a totally different model. There they have volunteer Mods who are 24/7 on the job and new topics are introduced continuously. One can sign on at any given time and jump right in to current discussions, arguments, POV's etc and get engaged anytime one wants to. Also, over there good posts / reports there are rewarded by points from others which serves to facilitate higher ranking. And more access facilities / access on the forum. Positive reinforcement!
- Been a bit busy these days.
What with work, family and other more mundane. But essential activities demanding more of my time; but you guys seem to be doing just fine and dandy. So no big deal that I ain't posting as much. Having said that though, I also miss some of the old. And GREAT regulars like Santa, Eaglestar, AsnDragon, Superforce, Bill Lee, Weelok. Who all seems to also be posting less or even none. Changing of the guard I suppose!
And yes. I have purloined OAH's tag line to a certain extent. But hey. It brought you back here didn't it? LOL.
Just my POV.
SEAJ
Azncat,
Great informative post! I can't help but to focus on your summaries. It seems that you paid a lot of money (maybe even too much) and ended up with poor service from the 2 KTV girls you took back. The first one was a "stinky poo" that wanted you to pop as quickly as possible and the second one was boring and refused everything but mish. And, you kept them LT. I am curious how you describe GFE. I would have thrown them out and complained to the mommy.
This is why I do not usually do KTV girls. It is much more expensive and you have the same chance of bad service as you do with a BBS girl for 250RMB ST. 500RMB LT. And, you can even take a good performer from BBS to the KTV with you to party.
Just my POV.
OAHDoes "stinky poo" mean she has a smelly ass? Why not bring her in to the shower and stick your finger in her ass with soap to make sure its clean before you guys shag?
Some of us bros will be going to CP in August for a few days of mayhem. Unfortunately for me, due to work I can only be there for one night.
It's been 2 years (yes I know) since I last visited CP. I remember having my mind blown away by Mayflower.
Can you bros here recommend anything else? Anyplace that I should definitely check out on my bucket list? (just in case I don't get to CP again).
And what exactly has changed from two years ago? I heard Mayflower was raided last year or something. Has there been any significant changes?
Thanks bros for oncoming replies. I know to RTFF as much as possible but seriously, this thread moves too fast hence as much as I tried, I really cannot spend a few hours RTFF.
BSD, SEAJ, and others if you're in town come join us. Would be nice to finally get to meet you legends.
Big Swingin Dave
07-24-11, 07:49
For those that may be wondering what 2-5-8, 2-6-9, 3-5-8, 3-6-9, 3-7-10, 3-7-11, 4-8-12, 4-9-13, 4-10-15, 5-15-20, et al means, I will do my best to explain:
The first number represents the sitting fee. Basically, whenever we pay a girl, we don't pay them to come, we pay them to LEAVE. When the WG leaves after the KTV party is over, they are paid either 200, 300, 400, or 500 just for partying in the room and is not taken out because it was the customer's choice not to or they simply do not go out or inconvenient (I. E. Menstrual period, not feeling well, or for some, just never goes out because they are being kept by other guys that do not allow them to go out with customers).
The second number represents the short time (ST) fee which INCLUDES the sitting fee. When a WG is taken out of the KTV, it is immediately considered as minimum short time (usually 1 pop included but for some super studs out there, I have heard that they have gotten more than one pop and still paid the short time fee but customarily it is one pop and gone for ST).
The third number represents the long time (LT) fee which INCLUDES the short time fee and sitting fee. Customarily you get two pops. 1 in the evening, and 1 in the morning for the overnight fee. My advise is that whenever you take a girl out and you intend to have her stay overnight, you should do the following:
1) Ask her is it ok for you to take her out for the evening;
2) Tell her that you may want to keep her overnight, is that ok, as some don't do overnight. If ok, then tell her that it's possible that you may only do short time if her service is not good or you may be too tire to have her stay overnight, that way, you plant a seed in her head that in order for her to have a chance to stay overnight and make more money, she have to give you good service;
3) Tell her that if you decide to keep her overnight after short time, she cannot leave earlier than 10am (or whatever time you want to set.) and must agree to have another pop in the morning before leaving; otherwise, you will only give her ST money. Ask her do you understand? Too many guys tell me the next day that their girls make excuses to leave early in the morning and refuse to have another pop in the morning and still get LT money. So to avoid this potential scam and you feeling cheated and don't want to argue for the extra 300RMB, then do the above and at least, you have a better chance of not getting rip-off by the WG and believe me, it is human nature to do the least and get the most and these girls are master of deceiving the customers no matter how innocent they may look to you.
In regards to AZNCAT's post of him paying the party cost, sitting fee, and overnight fee, you guys missed that he sat two girls and only took one girl home so what he said is true, he pay for the party cost 550RMB. 300 sitting fee for the girl that he did not take back to the hotel, and 1, 000 overnight fee for the one he took back to the hotel.
BSD
SEAJoe,
I sure miss you young lad! What have you been doing recently, tricking young girls by showing off your six pack abs again?
I see the steady rise of China's purchasing power recently. For the first time, since 2007's overheated economy, BBS prices have breached 200 RMB and are 250 RMB standard in the Swan Lake area and have still remained at that price level. I had thought that this was temporary, but apparently, it is not. China will only get more expensive over time. If you can, enjoy China now while we still can afford it.
Was at Chang An Town, and boy I have certainly noticed a huge change in the clientele mix there. Before back in the old days it comprised mostly of Taiwanese, HK, South East Asians and Japanese clients. Now, all you see are local mainlanders coming up from Shenzhen to get some action. In fact, most of them are richer and more generous than guys from any other Asian country. It's quite an interesting sight to see the shift in purchasing power of local Chinese. This only signifies that as China grows stronger, the demands of the Women will increase as well. Saunas in Chang An are now charging 1200 RMB. 2000 RMB per session for air flight attendant uniforms to model quality. Sure this was the pricing for the high end Sauna, but other saunas are increasing their prices as well. Chang An is only a shell of what it was before. With so many saunas forced to close down in last years major raid, the strong ones that survived are only getting bigger and better, thus more expensive.
I wonder how an old guy like me is going to afford any action in the near future with the prices increasing so quickly.
AsnDragon.
Yeah. Got to admit that I have not been posting on here as frequently as before.
A combination of factors:
- The new engine used here is so slow and frustrating.
I have used IE, Firefox, Chrome etc to access, and the result remains the same. Takes forever for the page to come up.
Pictures are now also a pain to pull up. And when they do come up, are tiny still.
This auto correction forced on posts. It is so bad and instead serves to make a lot of posts a series of one liners that does not make sense.
- The quality of posts has really gone down IMHO:
Specifically on the Beijing thread which is now just a series of guerrilla marketing pieces by these crap shills for the call in services. Most senior and previously great reporters have basically disappeared and repeated reports to the Mods goes unheeded. With just one respond from him telling me to MYOB. OK!
I suppose he thinks that he's got enough members contributing that a few old ones don't matter. Interestingly though, I've also noticed that there is now no more Advertisements here.
- I have been posting on another site.
One that is specifically Hong Kong / China-centric. With a totally different model. There they have volunteer Mods who are 24/7 on the job and new topics are introduced continuously. One can sign on at any given time and jump right in to current discussions, arguments, POV's etc and get engaged anytime one wants to. Also, over there good posts / reports there are rewarded by points from others which serves to facilitate higher ranking. And more access facilities / access on the forum. Positive reinforcement!
- Been a bit busy these days.
What with work, family and other more mundane. But essential activities demanding more of my time; but you guys seem to be doing just fine and dandy. So no big deal that I ain't posting as much. Having said that though, I also miss some of the old. And GREAT regulars like Santa, Eaglestar, AsnDragon, Superforce, Bill Lee, Weelok. Who all seems to also be posting less or even none. Changing of the guard I suppose!
And yes. I have purloined OAH's tag line to a certain extent. But hey. It brought you back here didn't it? LOL.
Just my POV.
SEAJ
SEAJoe,
I wonder how an old guy like me is going to afford any action in the near future with the prices increasing so quickly.True. Seems like the costs are rising up much like the hyperinflation in the country. Too bad our wages don't go up equally the same.
Anybody knows where the next CP will be? Anhui? Or India?
I rather not go India.
SE Asia Joe
07-24-11, 08:24
For those that may be wondering what 2-5-8, .
BSDHey BSD. Whilst we do have you on here. How about a run-down on the latest pricing in CP?
Various KTV beer / liquor AND girl costs, hotel rooms, different saunas, the BBS's, the footsies etc.
Maybe you can incorporate this information periodically in refreshed entries of your contact etc info on the "Classified Ad" thread. Which BTW does get buried in the back pages unless you do "refresh" such periodically.
As AsnDragon says and we all have been noticing. Prices have been exploding for just about everything in China and especially in CP these days that its hard to keep up!
Thanks.
SEAJ
ManonsanBoy
07-24-11, 08:26
Almost total shut down of saunas in Tangxia. Apparently localised to there?
SE Asia Joe
07-24-11, 09:55
Well. Since it IS a lazy Sunday afternoon here – and I'm just laying around waiting till the time I get on the train to CP tonight, might as well C+P a report I had recently posted up on the other site.
Hope you guys like it:
Happened Summer, on my last visit to Chang Ping before I go off on my annual pilgrimage to the Good Ole You Ass of Aye! Last few days before I go back to the Sex Prison that I submit myself to annually – yeah, family comes first and all that.
So with that in mind, I set out to make the most of my last few days in China's version of Las Vegas for sex. At least for a while. And had programmed every moment to be fully occupied with all the things I KNOW I was going to miss for the next month or so; you know, BBS's Saunas, KTV's, Short terms, long terms. Just the old same-o same-o!
Little did I know. That all my well laid plans. Would so soon all go awry. From the git-go!
First on the menu. A visit to the Jun Hui, which in those days still housed the BBS operation which turns into a KTV at night. Rates then were still 200/600 as a BBS and 2/4/7 as a KTV – a bargain in my books as the Jun Hui used to have the best looking BBS gals and most of them quite F. O. F. (fresh off farm or factory) ; the mommies there had a widespread and effective recruiting team, scouring the surrounding factories as well their own people in their own respective home towns. Very effective and efficient operation in bringing in the freshest and best looking gals in CP, IMHO!
Walked in and the most aggressive of the mommies – Sammy. Shouted at me that Xiao Xiao (one of my favorites there then – but which actually 'belongs' to another mommie there) had already gone out but that she had a lovely one for me. 'Come, come on – this is a special treat for you! ' she exhorted whilst dragging me to one of the back KTV room. She opened the door and there, near finishing dressing up in the Jun Hui's 'new KTV uniform, ' was a beautiful, classy and quite embarrassed tallish gal. Embarrassed as her smallish tits were only covered by a semblance of a shirt – as it is VERY transparent and it was verboten to wear a bra underneath this new uniform.
She had her hands covering her embarrassment and pleading eyes directed at Sammy whilst softly asking if she really – REALLY. Had to be so exposed. Sammy shouted back – 'nothing, nothing – just put your own clothes back and take care of SEAJ pronto! '
Just like that and I was paired off with Keke who I found out had that very day just moved from Tangxia where she was being kept by some factory owner – whilst also keeping a Xiao Long Gau on the side. The factory owner found out about this and of course the shit hit the fan – but instead of running away with her Little White face, she had decided to cut her loss and just move away from BOTH of them; and thus her ending up in my arms. And of course in my bed that night.
I don't know what it is – but with some girls, I just naturally click and click like clock-work – and Keke was one of these gals I really click with. From the git-go I was enthralled and intoxicated by her beauty, poise and her polite manners – and it was so nice for it was quite apparent that she also felt right at home with me. Sex, meals, chit-chats, cuddling up, her telling me and me listening. To her history, her family, her background, her aspirations, her problems, her weaknesses etc. Blissful sleep, footsies together, more love making, more merriment, more doleful eyes looking at each other – and before I knew it, it was time for me to go back to Hong Kong and off on my trip.
Before I left we had sort of agreed that when I return, that I will sort her out and take care of her whereby she wouldn't need to go back to work at the BBS. Upon reflection, perhaps I should have just set her up right then and there – but I didn't as there was just not enough time and perhaps I was being a bit careful as in all reality, I did only know her for all of 3 days max! But NOT taking care of her right away, I did – whilst of course leaving her with a fair bit more money than she would have earned, if she was not with me those 3 days.
Well, I kept in touch with her throughout the whole time I was on my vacation and she had been very frank with me about her daily activities throughout – and of course some sadness and pain about her still having to 'service' other guys etc in our daily talk. I really don't know who actually suggested it – but one day she just up and quit Sammy's and I told her to go over to a friend of mine and get some money (and I'll take care of my friend when I get back).
When I eventually got back to CP, the first thing I did was of course to go and see Keke; nothing much had changed between us– the same chemistry, the same closeness and the same feelings – at least I felt that way. An uneventful – but blissful 3 days later, I needed to go back to Hong Kong and I thought nothing of then telling her to stay in my apartment until I get back in a few days time.
Couple days later, she told me on the telephone that she had decided to go back to her home-town and was going to leave – just like that! I was actually quite taken aback at this turn of events and rushed back to CP to get to the bottom of it all. But I really never knew what was the REAL reason for her leaving me – whether to go back home, to go back to her Xiao Long Gao, go back to her old factory owner / he forgave her, go back to both, to find / found another patron, etc. Never did get a straight answer from her.
Upon reflection though, it probably WAS best that it happened when it happened – for even though I was badly smitten by her, she DID have a history of stringing guys along, of duplicity, of not really being worthy of being trusted etc.
So I just chalked it all up to experience. Glad I really did not get stung for too much money and thanked my lucky stars that the parting had been a lot less painful than if it had happened later on. So what if I got conned (if such a word would even be appropriate in this case) a bit. I think. By Keke? I truly feel that I got lots more from her than the amount of money she got from me!
SEAJ.
Name: KE KE.
Link: Long gone but she was a BBS gal at the Jun Hui (ex-swan lake) which no longer exists!
Face: IMHO a solid 4. 5/5 and is one of the best looking BBS gals I know – pretty, poised, knows how to dress AND carry herself. Very slight oily skin problem.
Body: 4/5 as she really does NOT have big boobs – which actually don't do much for me. Big boobs I mean. Otherwise, very nice and most importantly CLEAN and fragrant! Quite tall for a CP gal. Approx 5'5"
Age of the girl: 19 at the time.
Skill: 4. 5/5 – oh she knew her stuff here – very well trained by her previous patron – but a bit too submissive perhaps (God – can never be 100% satisfied can I. Huh?)
Service: a solid 5/5 as it was all done with heart – at least IMHO.
Agent: Sammi the * Momma – who BTW is still operating a BBS across the street from the Swan Lake hotel.
Re-try factor. Definitely 5/5. But I cain't. As I cain't find her no more
Over-all rating. 4/5, 1 off for how it all ended. Just 1 off!
SE Asia Joe
07-24-11, 10:07
And a few pixs to accompany. If I figure out how to do it on this new engine!
SEAJ.
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OldAsiaHand
07-24-11, 10:30
And yes. I have purloined OAH's tag line to a certain extent. But hey. It brought you back here didn't it? LOL.
Just my POV.
SEAJSEAJ,
You have been a hopeless romantic since I've known you. Always falling in love with forlorn BBS girls. I bought Nokia stock and fared pretty well since you started giving away mobile phones. You must have given some I-phones away too since Apple is now the 2nd biggest company in the world. Kidding aside, you have a heart of gold.
Just my POV.
OAH
SE Asia Joe
07-24-11, 10:54
SEAJ,
You have been a hopeless romantic since I've known you. Always falling in love with forlorn BBS girls. I bought Nokia stock and fared pretty well since you started giving away mobile phones. You must have given some I-phones away too since Apple is now the 2nd biggest company in the world. Kidding aside, you have a heart of gold.
Just my POV.
OAHHmmm. What can I say?
I guess I AM a hopeless romantic!
I do LOVE being in love!
So much better than just wham bam thank you mam. NEXT!
And talk about cheap phones. I found this little shop behind the Gome that sells cheap second hand phones.
I don't ask where he gets his "inventory" from and he charges me as low as RMB 70 for actually pretty great phones.
He also does cheap repairs of phones so anytime I have problems with my phone, I take it to him and he fixes it all up.
SEAJ
Some of the posts I put up in several of the threads 7 hours ago, all didn't show.
What's happening?
Mit Fo Lfe
07-24-11, 20:04
Some of the posts I put up in several of the threads 7 hours ago, all didn't show.
What's happening?What I've learned is that since you're only a reg member your posts need to be moderated before they are published. You need a senior member status to see your posts immediately
Mit Fo Lfe
07-24-11, 20:10
Totally agree with you on this. We usually start partying at 6 pm and by the time 9 or 10 pm rolls around I'm ready to get out of there. Would be nice to start around 8 or 9 pm and that way we could all leave around 12 or 1 am. One thing that our crew has done from time to time is to get there at 6 pm and pick our girls. Then put them in the room and we go out and eat. Then we come back an hour later on a full stomach and let the games begin!Man when we first started going to CP. We used to eat at 6 and arrive at the KTV by 8. That was when lions was the best KTV around. Ahh. The good ol days. Now it seems like there is no down time from the time I wake up to when I have to get ready for the next party. We had a couples night last trip and was fun and a nice change of pace
Tuesday.
BSD brought me to Pozilim for lunch and a real foot massage. It was a very relaxing experience. Afterwards, I headed back to the hotel to catch up on emails and rest up before the partying.
We went to May Flower's KTV tonight. If you arrive at the correct time, you'll get greeted by all of the DJs (who are all pretty attractive). They'll start a massive wave of bowing and all chant 'huan ying guang ling' (literally: welcome bright entry [or something like that]). It's quite the sight.
Flower Street started around 6 PM, and BSD (once again) walked the route with me. The mamas here are rather pushy, so you have to learn how to shake them off without being too rough. The selection was also much more diverse (400+ girls) , and I saw a few mamas I wouldn't have been against taking home (what can I say? I like older women as well.).
Notes:
- If you see a girl you like, you can either tell her to go to your room immediately, or ask her to walk Flower Street with you. If you see others that you like, you can tell the other girl to go back (or you can take them all). I remember seeing one guy walking Flower Street with three girls in tow, and mamas were still trying to push girls onto him.
- I strongly recommend against getting attached to a single girl, no matter how good she is. There are a lot of logical reasons for why I don't think you should do this, and I can elaborate further if someone should request it. For now, just take it as my personal opinion.
BSD hosted the party yet again. Another guest requested that BSD pick a girl, and offered to pay for her, so BSD picked a girl on her first night suggested by one of his friends. There were four of us yet again (not counting BSD) , and this party was even more fun than the previous one. We played a bunch of new and different games, including a dice version of truth or dare that resulted in some hilarious occurrences. There were a lot of groping, dancing, and singing. Everyone had a great time.
Summary: I was actually split between my girls. I picked the slimmer one with the sexier legs over the one with better tits and a better looking face. She was more fun#3 had a very slim figure and very sexy legs. #4 had great tits and a much better looking face. In the end, I chose #3 because she was slightly more fun at the KTV. She was not that good in bed. No BBBJ, cowgirl (said it hurt) , etc. We did straight missionary. Even though the deed itself was very boring, the GFE was great and she was very cute. I kept her LT.
Damages: 550 RMB + 300 sitting fee + 1000 LT. We ordered two rounds of beers and had less people to split the costs with, so the KTV bill was significantly higher than it usually is.
Conclusion.
CP was a lot of fun. It's very hard to get it out of your mind even after you've left. If you're a newbie, I'the strongly recommend against going alone. You won't be able to have nearly as much fun by yourself. If you don't speak fluent Mandarin / Putonghua, I'the also strongly recommend against going alone. There are a lot of scams and thieves here, so safety is a serious concern. BSD can help you book hotels and organize your experiences here, and he won't ask you for a single penny. He gets commission from most of the places that he takes you to, and I actually saved money and partied harder with him.Hi Azncat,
I remember the party on Tuesday nite well. At the flower street, the mamasan told me it's a slow night, so the girls are desperate, good for the customers! I actually picked 3 that nite, #1 tall, slim,"model" with lips built for BJ, #2 just pure chemistry, a 7 in look, ok bod, not slim or chubby, just right, nice knockers, #3 a slim clueless chick I felt sorry for, thought I would give her a lesson or 2 in bed that night if I was in the mood. At any rate, as soon as I went back to the room, #1 sorta isolated herself, and I sensed the attitude and asked her to leave right away, to my surprise, she didn't ask for any fee even after she was there like 20 mins.
As Azncat, good time was had by all, games were good to get the girls drunk. I actually checking out BSD's girl's friend (in black) , thought she was pretty hot, oh well, next time. My girls provided great service in the room, feeding me fruit, food, drink, and kisses left and right. I was surprise that they don't mind kissing me on the lips even seeing the other girl already kissed me. In other party, the girl didn't want to exchange "saliva" between them through kissing the guy. Anyway, I have a natural tendency to attach to #2, and ended up taking her home that nite, and tipped #3 a bit more (sorry, I didn't mean to ruin it for other bros, but she did her job well that nite). #3 was pretty good, my hands were on her boob all nite, and she's good sports as I gave her quite a workout (this is all BSD's fault because he arranged a SN for me before the Mayflower party and it was quite an effort to me to get the 3rd shot out for the nite. Just kidding BSD, I had an amazing time@SN). Unfortunately, we didn't do much in the morning as I had to leave@8am.
All-in-all, it's a bit pricey for small party, and BSD did a good job blocking out other managers from coming into the room to "pilfer" our alcohol! .
Thanks again for a great party, BSD.
Cheers,
Staid.
PS: Azncat, I was heartbroken when you let the other girl go. She is SO cute, nice personality, nice face, with small dimples, crooked teeth (just like those cute japanese av girl) , and nice boobs too. If you don't mind, please sharing her contact with me thru PM. I will be back in CP this week! Thanks bros!
OldAsiaHand
07-25-11, 03:16
Hi Azncat,
I remember the party on Tuesday nite well. At the flower street, the mamasan told me it's a slow night, so the girls are desperate, good for the customers! I actually picked 3 that nite, #1 tall, slim,"model" with lips built for BJ, #2 just pure chemistry, a 7 in look, ok bod, not slim or chubby, just right, nice knockers, #3 a slim clueless chick I felt sorry for, thought I would give her a lesson or 2 in bed that night if I was in the mood. At any rate, as soon as I went back to the room, #1 sorta isolated herself, and I sensed the attitude and asked her to leave right away, to my surprise, she didn't ask for any fee even after she was there like 20 mins.
As Azncat, good time was had by all, games were good to get the girls drunk.Staid Lo,
It seems that many KTV punters want to get the girls so drunk that they are worthless in bed when they get them back to the room. I do understand that it is a lot of fun to party with your mates and all the girls in the room. I also understand the need for some punters to get to know the girls a little better before they stick it in. However, it seems to defeat the whole purpose of mongering if you and / or the girl get so drunk that you cannot manage the deed in the end. Or, the girl cops "an attitude" when you get her back to the room and you end up with blue balls.
Am I missing something?
Just my POV.
OAH
Staid Lo,
It seems that many KTV punters want to get the girls so drunk that they are worthless in bed when they get them back to the room. I do understand that it is a lot of fun to party with your mates and all the girls in the room. I also understand the need for some punters to get to know the girls a little better before they stick it in. However, it seems to defeat the whole purpose of mongering if you and / or the girl get so drunk that you cannot manage the deed in the end. Or, the girl cops "an attitude" when you get her back to the room and you end up with blue balls.
Am I missing something?
Just my POV.
OAHHi OAH,
I might have exaggerated in my last post, drunk is not a word I meant to write. You are right, sometimes they even pretend to be drunk to do less in the bedroom, and some turn into a tiger. My strategy is to put some alcohol in there system to break down the guards, let them open up more, but who am I kidding, I could never get them drunk, they have a much higher alcohol tolerance than 2 of me combined! .
Cheers,
Staid
Jon Guoren
07-25-11, 16:24
Let me know if you want to hang out at all late August, I will be in CP. I will attend at least 1 BSD party, too.
By the way, I think the guy dry humping all the girls after a few bevvies was Eddie. But not sure.
CORRECTION:
I forgot that the sitting fee was included in the ST / LT fee. If you take a girl home, you only pay for the ST / LT fee and not the sitting fee.
OAH
They were very playful in bed. Tickling, cuddling, kissing, bed talk, all that stuff. And sometimes I just want to have a warm body next to me when I sleep. The sex is only a small part of the experience for me.
@Staid Lo.
Both of the girls were awesome that night. I was sad to let the other one go, but you have to make the choice.
I actually deleted her contact info when I switched countries. Sorry!
Have fun in CP, and I might be back mid-August for some more mayhem.
Bull Dozer
07-25-11, 23:29
Could someone please explain where is May Flower located & phone # also where is flower Street? Thanks.
BD
Hi Azncat,
I remember the party on Tuesday nite well. At the flower street, the mamasan told me it's a slow night, so the girls are desperate, good for the customers! I actually picked 3 that nite, #1 tall, slim,"model" with lips built for BJ, #2 just pure chemistry, a 7 in look, ok bod, not slim or chubby, just right, nice knockers, #3 a slim clueless chick I felt sorry for, thought I would give her a lesson or 2 in bed that night if I was in the mood. At any rate, as soon as I went back to the room, #1 sorta isolated herself, and I sensed the attitude and asked her to leave right away, to my surprise, she didn't ask for any fee even after she was there like 20 mins.
As Azncat, good time was had by all, games were good to get the girls drunk. I actually checking out BSD's girl's friend (in black) , thought she was pretty hot, oh well, next time. My girls provided great service in the room, feeding me fruit, food, drink, and kisses left and right. I was surprise that they don't mind kissing me on the lips even seeing the other girl already kissed me. In other party, the girl didn't want to exchange "saliva" between them through kissing the guy. An? Yway, I have a natural tendency to attach to #2, and ended up taking her home that nite, and tipped #3 a bit more (sorry, I didn't mean to ruin it for other bros, but she did her job well that nite). #3 was pretty good, my hands were on her boob all nite, and she's good sports as I gave her quite a workout (this is all BSD's fault because he arranged a SN for me before the Mayflower party and it was quite an effort to me to get the 3rd shot out for the nite. Just kidding BSD, I had an amazing time@SN). Unfortunately, we didn't do much in the morning as I had to leave@8am.
All-in-all, it's a bit pricey for small party, and BSD did a good job blocking out other managers from coming into the room to "pilfer" our alcohol! .
Thanks again for a great party, BSD.
Cheers,
Staid.
PS: Azncat, I was heartbroken when you let the other girl go. She is SO cute, nice personality, nice face, with small dimples, crooked teeth (just like those cute japanese av girl) , and nice boobs too. If you don't mind, please sharing her contact with me thru PM. I will be back in CP this week! Thanks bros!
OAH.
They were very playful in bed. Tickling, cuddling, kissing, bed talk, all that stuff. And sometimes I just want to have a warm body next to me when I sleep. The sex is only a small part of the experience for me.
@Staid Lo.
Both of the girls were awesome that night. I was sad to let the other one go, but you have to make the choice.
I actually deleted her contact info when I switched countries. Sorry!Agree with Azncat, imo, ST is just to satisfy the primal urge, for that, SN provides a better value. LT is more of a 1-nite stand kind of fantasy, with an option for another pop in the morning. Of the number time I took home from k, I only had 1 ST. I kicked her out early because she was so low class, making dirty joke and swearing all nite even though she was a pretty good f*ck.
Azncat, no worries on the contact, I am sure I can find many that fits her profile in CP. .
Cheers,
Staid.
BTW, I was watching the mentalist on the flight. Does anyone find Robin Tunney (the lead female detective on the show) hot? Somehow women in uniform turn me on, do you know if there is any k that caters to those fetishes? I have done race car drivers, and ol in different SN in CP already.
Could someone please explain where is May Flower located & phone # also where is flower Street? Thanks.
BDHii BD,
Mayflower is the hotel at the end of swan lake street. The k is behind the hotel, flower street is happening inside the k daily starting around 6:30pm. If you have a hard time finding the k after you got to the hotel (just hail a cab and tell the driver to go to wu-yue-hua, it's should be around 10-12 rmb from miraton. 10 mins w / o traffic) , just follow the parade of beauties will lead you to the mecca.
I suggest you find a party to join (BSD is your bet if you are by yourself, and get 1 of the biz card from the mommy to set you up by the performance area if you are by yourself so that you can pick the talents to sit with you. I believe there is a 98rmb / person min spending if you sit at the the performance area. IMHO, the performance area tends to be very loud and it's hard to chit chat w / and put your mojo on the girl as others looking. Maybe it's just me, I am not very good at this. .
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Staid
I am going to visit Dongguan with a few of my bros during the week of mid August. Anybody wants to join in? Would love to meet up with you legends BSD, AZNCat, SEAJ, OAH, etc. We're definitely doing Mayflower.
I know I don't have PM privileges yet, am currently in Taipei so wait till I get back and I'll activate it.
And four guys had a bald guy by his arms and legs while another gang member smashed his head with his fist many times. I felt I'd arrived in "Vice City" and I had!Can you elaborate on the head bashing? Where was that? Was it local on local or perhaps a robbery. I think that deserves some elaboration.
Well why not just eat dinner earlier. You go to CP for the girls not its cuisine. Just get dinner over with at 5:30pm and then enjoy KTV afterwards without worrying about food.Who the fuck is hungry at 5. 30? Maybe when you are 70, but 5. 30 is way to early for dinner. And for anyone coming from HK, Shenzhen, etc after.
Work hours 6. 00 start is early. I think a 9pm start would be welcomed by girls and guys both at least at one venue. They like to copy each other.
But not differentiate. I remember one story where the Virgin see through outfits were identical to CaliRed KTV because the owner of Virgin went there and.
Stole the idea (a good idea). Flower street clearly has become more popular, and I think that a later start for one place (say Amazon) would differentiate them further.
Sardaukar1
07-26-11, 21:18
Who the fuck is hungry at 5. 30? Maybe when you are 70, but 5. 30 is way to early for dinner. And for anyone coming from HK, Shenzhen, etc after.
Work hours 6. 00 start is early. I think a 9pm start would be welcomed by girls and guys both at least at one venue. They like to copy each other.
But not differentiate. I remember one story where the Virgin see through outfits were identical to CaliRed KTV because the owner of Virgin went there and.
Stole the idea (a good idea). Flower street clearly has become more popular, and I think that a later start for one place (say Amazon) would differentiate them further.As the saying goes, in Rome do as the Romans. When you are in CP, you should adapt to the timing instead of them compromising you. Beforehand and prior your arrival, you should know the timing so just follow accordingly. What is your priority? Pussies or food when in CP?
SE Asia Joe
07-27-11, 05:34
Do NOT ever go to Zhong Yan clinic on the main hotel drag in Chang Ping in front of the Hui Mei hotel. Total rip-off scam and totally no ethics AT ALL.
My li'l friend and I was just walking on ZhongYan street when I recalled that she had told me previous night that she was experiencing some itching "down there." I'm pretty sure that it's just a very minor case of thrush. Something quite common amongst gals during hot humid weather. And thus decided to just drop in that DEVIL CLINIC to get some OTC meds.
Well. No. The doctor insists that she needs to examine her first. Pay RMB 30 (the start of the trap). All along her / I telling her that we just want a course of medicine to take and definitely NO lousy drip as they're ALWAYS prescribing this in China.
OK. VERY perfunctory examination which only consists of questions and she told us to pay the cashier. RMB 245, which I thought, hmmm, kinda high but OK I guess. Wait in the room. And then this nurse shows up with 4 drips. And which I then protested that this is NOT what we wanted. The supposed Doctor then tells me that the 245 also includes an actual examination of her down there. And so off my friend went by herself to the examination room.
About 10 minutes or so later. The nurse got me and told me to come right away to see something. And when I entered the room, there was my friend with her legs strapped up, an examination tool stuck up her nether region and blood oozing out from the top of her vagina. (she had NOT had any blood discharge, not even spotting prior to this)
The doctor and nurse then telling us that she needs an emergency operation to "cure her." Here all along my friend was just helplessly strapped up and her telling me later on that when they first "examined" her, that she felt little pain but that as it progressed, she then felt a sharp pain. Which I am pretty sure was when the doctor actually just made a cut or wound to cause bleeding.
My friend was of course in a panic and I couldn't even think straight as I was not about to risk her life deciding wrongly. And after more horror proclamations about needing to stop the bleeding and to make sure that her condition was not going to spread to her being unable to give birth in the future etc, I relented and agreed to the operation. Kaching. Another RMB 1, 000.
After the "operation" which lasted a whole of about 5 minutes, and after she recovered from the anaesthesia. It was off to the drip room for a drip, with instructions to come back the next day for a follow up exammination.
Next day. Just a perfunctory examination and then another drip. RMB 245 again. And at the end of the drip. Instructions that she must come back for AT LEAST another 5 days to make sure she completes the antibiotic course. At 245 a pop again.
So all in all its, going to cost about RMB 3, 000. Just because of a bad decision on our part to visit this Quack of a clinic instead of the Chang Ping hospital where I and my friends had usually gone to and where we got good (albeit also a bit pricey. But nothing like this!) and PROPER treatment.
So. Make sure you do NOT ever go to this rip off joint! Its not only going to make a big dent on your pocket. No matter how minor the ailment is. But they're actually going to do you physical harm. Just to rip you off.
WATCH OUT!
SEAJ.
Ps. During the course of the physical exam when my friend was alone with the doctor. Out of the clear blue sky, she had actually asked my friend where her BF is from. To which she absent-mindedly just replied. And which I KNOW its this Thievin' doctor's need to double check to make sure that we were going to be a good target for her scam.
Mock A Bee
07-27-11, 06:00
Who the fuck is hungry at 5. 30? Maybe when you are 70, but 5. 30 is way to early for dinner. And for anyone coming from HK, Shenzhen, etc after.
Work hours 6. 00 start is early. I think a 9pm start would be welcomed by girls and guys both at least at one venue. They like to copy each other.
But not differentiate. I remember one story where the Virgin see through outfits were identical to CaliRed KTV because the owner of Virgin went there and.
Stole the idea (a good idea). Flower street clearly has become more popular, and I think that a later start for one place (say Amazon) would differentiate them further.Cantonese people eat 24hrs a day.
Perhaps not a full dinner but snacking on anything tasty for sure.
No! I don't mean snacking on meow meow either.
You must not be Cantonese.
MAB
SEAJoe,
You know it's strange, but I remember you telling your story before. Not sure if it was in person or not. But didn't this happen like 1. 5 years to 2 years ago? I thought that you swore that you would not fall too deeply into any girls anymore? But then again it's quite difficult when you meet that special girl that you "click" with. It's actually quite hard in CP to find a girl that you truly "click" with. Most of them either already have boyfriends, are jaded due to being exposed to this field for too long, or they are just in it for the financial gains and emotional attachment is the least of their priorities.
I can never understand some girls in China. For the life of me I can never understand the paths that they choose to take. For example, I've had my own share of stories where I fall head over heels for a girl, wanting to take care of them, but they flat out refuse the help and would choose to be a WG instead of taking the easy way out of things. To understand a China girl is truly an art that takes a lifetime. Apparently, if SEAJoe can't even master it, there's little hope for the rest of us.
AsnDragon.
Well. Since it IS a lazy Sunday afternoon here – and I'm just laying around waiting till the time I get on the train to CP tonight, might as well C+P a report I had recently posted up on the other site.
Hope you guys like it:
Name: KE KE.
Link: Long gone but she was a BBS gal at the Jun Hui (ex-swan lake) which no longer exists!
Face: IMHO a solid 4. 5/5 and is one of the best looking BBS gals I know – pretty, poised, knows how to dress AND carry herself. Very slight oily skin problem.
Body: 4/5 as she really does NOT have big boobs – which actually don't do much for me. Big boobs I mean. Otherwise, very nice and most importantly CLEAN and fragrant! Quite tall for a CP gal. Approx 5'5"
Age of the girl: 19 at the time.
Skill: 4. 5/5 – oh she knew her stuff here – very well trained by her previous patron – but a bit too submissive perhaps (God – can never be 100% satisfied can I. Huh?)
Service: a solid 5/5 as it was all done with heart – at least IMHO.
Agent: Sammi the * Momma – who BTW is still operating a BBS across the street from the Swan Lake hotel.
Re-try factor. Definitely 5/5. But I cain't. As I cain't find her no more
Over-all rating. 4/5, 1 off for how it all ended. Just 1 off!
Freepeaks,
Actually, I eat at 5:30 before the line up quite often. But then again when I miss my dinner, I tend to always end up sharing McDonald's delivery with you!
If you are brave enough, I think we should ask BSD to set up Walter KTV event. I know it's going to be a really bad experience, but perhaps your Rock Star can hook us up with some nice gals. What do you think?
AsnDragon.
Who the fuck is hungry at 5. 30? Maybe when you are 70, but 5. 30 is way to early for dinner. And for anyone coming from HK, Shenzhen, etc after.
Work hours 6. 00 start is early. I think a 9pm start would be welcomed by girls and guys both at least at one venue. They like to copy each other.
But not differentiate. I remember one story where the Virgin see through outfits were identical to CaliRed KTV because the owner of Virgin went there and.
Stole the idea (a good idea). Flower street clearly has become more popular, and I think that a later start for one place (say Amazon) would differentiate them further.
Jettsetter
07-27-11, 08:30
Cantonese people eat 24hrs a day.
Perhaps not a full dinner but snacking on anything tasty for sure.
No! I don't mean snacking on meow meow either.
You must not be Cantonese.
MABIn CP. Dinner time generally is not 5/5:30 pm With the normal routine, being up until 2-3 a. M, you generally don't wake up until about 10-11 a. M. If you're lucky. Which means you eat around 12, then having your dinner at 5:30 is a little early for anyone that does the general CP routine. You really get hungry around 7-8 pm (I've been going to CP for a decade. It's the natural schedule). Which means you get hungray while at the KTV. So you have two choices: 1) eat the KTV fare. Fried rice / noodles 2) leave your gal and go to dinner. 3) get take out.
So while you may be hungry 24 hours a day. The general meal times, don't coincide with KTV times. I remember when I first started out, at Lion, it wasn't happening until 8:30 pm perfect for Dinner at 7.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to have a KTV start later. Might be good for an "angle" for business.
-Jett
In CP. Dinner time generally is not 5/5:30 pm With the normal routine, being up until 2-3 a. M, you generally don't wake up until about 10-11 am If you're lucky. Which means you eat around 12, then having your dinner at 5:30 is a little early for anyone that does the general CP routine. You really get hungry around 7-8 pm (I've been going to CP for a decade. It's the natural schedule). Which means you get hungray while at the KTV. So you have two choices: 1) eat the KTV fare. Fried rice / noodles 2) leave your gal and go to dinner. 3) get take out.
So while you may be hungry 24 hours a day. The general meal times, don't coincide with KTV times. I remember when I first started out, at Lion, it wasn't happening until 8:30 pm perfect for Dinner at 7.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to have a KTV start later. Might be good for an "angle" for business.
-JettInteresting discussion. I am sure I am pointing the obvious here. This, IMHO, is purely driven a business decision. They know 5-5:30p is not your normal dinner hour, and make the flower street@6pm so you go there to get your pick, then order food to eat AT KTV. They *charge* you more for the convenience. For folks who leave early to maximize the evening activities in the bedroom, this is probably the preferred option. They don't do this from the perspective of the customers but to maximize their profit. .
My 2 fen,
Staid
Do NOT ever go to Zhong Yan clinic on the main hotel drag in Chang Ping in front of the Hui Mei hotel. Total rip-off scam and totally no ethics AT ALL.
My li'l friend and I was just walking on ZhongYan street when I recalled that she had told me previous night that she was experiencing some itching "down there." I'm pretty sure that it's just a very minor case of thrush. Something quite common amongst gals during hot humid weather. And thus decided to just drop in that DEVIL CLINIC to get some OTC meds.
Well. No. The doctor insists that she needs to examine her first. Pay RMB 30 (the start of the trap). All along her / I telling her that we just want a course of medicine to take and definitely NO lousy drip as they're ALWAYS prescribing this in China.
OK. VERY perfunctory examination which only consists of questions and she told us to pay the cashier. RMB 245, which I thought, hmmm, kinda high but OK I guess. Wait in the room. And then this nurse shows up with 4 drips. And which I then protested that this is NOT what we wanted. The supposed Doctor then tells me that the 245 also includes an actual examination of her down there. And so off my friend went by herself to the examination room.
About 10 minutes or so later. The nurse got me and told me to come right away to see something. And when I entered the room, there was my friend with her legs strapped up, an examination tool stuck up her nether region and blood oozing out from the top of her vagina. (she had NOT had any blood discharge, not even spotting prior to this)
The doctor and nurse then telling us that she needs an emergency operation to "cure her." Here all along my friend was just helplessly strapped up and her telling me later on that when they first "examined" her, that she felt little pain but that as it progressed, she then felt a sharp pain. Which I am pretty sure was when the doctor actually just made a cut or wound to cause bleeding.
My friend was of course in a panic and I couldn't even think straight as I was not about to risk her life deciding wrongly. And after more horror proclamations about needing to stop the bleeding and to make sure that her condition was not going to spread to her being unable to give birth in the future etc, I relented and agreed to the operation. Kaching. Another RMB 1, 000.
After the "operation" which lasted a whole of about 5 minutes, and after she recovered from the anaesthesia. It was off to the drip room for a drip, with instructions to come back the next day for a follow up exammination.
Next day. Just a perfunctory examination and then another drip. RMB 245 again. And at the end of the drip. Instructions that she must come back for AT LEAST another 5 days to make sure she completes the antibiotic course. At 245 a pop again.
So all in all its, going to cost about RMB 3, 000. Just because of a bad decision on our part to visit this Quack of a clinic instead of the Chang Ping hospital where I and my friends had usually gone to and where we got good (albeit also a bit pricey. But nothing like this!) and PROPER treatment.
So. Make sure you do NOT ever go to this rip off joint! Its not only going to make a big dent on your pocket. No matter how minor the ailment is. But they're actually going to do you physical harm. Just to rip you off.
WATCH OUT!
SEAJ.
Ps. During the course of the physical exam when my friend was alone with the doctor. Out of the clear blue sky, she had actually asked my friend where her BF is from. To which she absent-mindedly just replied. And which I KNOW its this Thievin' doctor's need to double check to make sure that we were going to be a good target for her scam.When I was in CP in March I got a stomach problem. The staff at Miraton recommended I go to the hospital but I thought I'd look for a clinic close by. Found the aforementioned clinic, asked for a doctor, shown one, was unimpressed (he just did not look like a doc). Went to the hospital recommended by the Miraton. I had to register first, got excellent attention from a nurse and doctor and received medication, paid 70RMB in all and problem went away. Can't recall the name of the hospital. If you ask Miraton staff, they should tell. About 3 miles from Miraton.
SE Asia Joe
07-27-11, 11:05
Hey guys, am sitting around here with Bruce Tea and a few others and Bruce wants me to say Hi Y'all!
He's too damn busy figuring out his next rain-out moves that he don't' have time to get on LOL!
SEAJ
Let me know if you want to hang out at all late August, I will be in CP. I will attend at least 1 BSD party, too.
By the way, I think the guy dry humping all the girls after a few bevvies was Eddie. But not sure.Will be there 27 & 28 Aug. Maybe see you at one of BSD parties.
Cunning Linguist
07-27-11, 15:02
Hey guys, am sitting around here with Bruce Tea and a few others and Bruce wants me to say Hi Y'all!
He's too damn busy figuring out his next rain-out moves that he don't' have time to get on LOL!
SEAJHi, I am headed to CP next week! I hope to see you, SE Asia Joe, min svenska väand, and Bruce Tea. I really appreciate Bruce Tea for showing me around! He is just great. I also hope to see Jetsetter, LA Monkey, Muiguizi (or something like that) and others and, of course, BSD (who I hope sees this and whose answer I am anxiously waiting for).
I really hope to enhance my Mandarin skills whilst enhancing other skills (LOL).
I understand that BBS have gone up to 250 RMB. Oh well. I just hope that the xiaojie are not as worried about dong size as before (I know, fat chance).
BTW, I was watching the mentalist on the flight. Does anyone find Robin Tunney (the lead female detective on the show) hot? Somehow women in uniform turn me on, do you know if there is any k that caters to those fetishes? I have done race car drivers, and ol in different SN in CP already.Yes, she's very sexy. Oddly enough, I don't actually find her face that attractive. I think it's just the uniform. There's always something about women in uniforms.
BTW, more random info that I forgot to post in my report: you can find costumed girls at the KTVs in Dongguan. I vaguely remember seeing girls in navy uniforms and the like. If that's what you're into, then you will like Dongguan.
(Who am I kidding. I'm into that kind of stuff as well. Next time for sure.)
A sidenote on Taiwan for those who are considering travelling there:
The average Taiwanese girl you see walking on the street is much more attractive than the average girl in China / Hong Kong / Japan. I don't think that it's because they're actually better looking though. I'd chalk it up to two reasons:
1. What I call the "South Korea Effect," where girls get copious amounts of plastic surgery to make themselves look more like models, idols, actresses, and singers.
2. A heavier Western influence. The girls dress better, hold themselves better, are more skilled with putting on make-up, etc.
Taiwanese girls love to go clubbing and dance, and some still have the foreigner fetish. Of course, for freebies, YMMV.
Also, the monger scene does exist here. From what I've heard, though, everything is overpriced, difficult to find, and low quality. You're better off not coming here for that.
Hi, I am headed to CP next week!Yo Yo Yo, Wasssssaaaap!
Ok last night I had a favorite BBS gal. Still here, still screwing. After all these months. Good for me cause she came over after calling her. Same bullshit about not working cause less customers, blah blah story. Told her I miss her and humpity humped her. Dunno, but I think her snatch smelled. Oh well, maybe I've been away from CP too long. Did her twice and let her go. Her love stains stayed and kinda stanked the sheets.
Went hunting for BBSes cause they all moved for the night. Don't know why but it was a bit of a hunt to find them. Saw some nice pickings and even on a slow night gals were going in and out of the shops. Maybe she barebacked the previous guy cause her snatch also stunk. I wanted to wash my hands right after rubbing there. I think my fingers still stink as I'm typing. Maybe I've been away from pussy too long. Yeah, got to get re-acquainted with that area. Am I such a noob?
Fuck it. Time for more putang.
Freepeaks,
Actually, I eat at 5:30 before the line up quite often. But then again when I miss my dinner, I tend to always end up sharing McDonald's delivery with you!WTF? We always do a BBS gal at 3, eat at 5, and party with the BSD animals from 6:30 till midnight. Get your wrinkly ass over here and stop eating Micky D's on the run. Rock Star it up, baby!
Fast Eddie 48
07-28-11, 04:29
Yo Yo Yo, Wasssssaaaap!
Ok last night I had a favorite BBS gal. Still here, still screwing. After all these months. Good for me cause she came over after calling her. Same bullshit about not working cause less customers, blah blah story. Told her I miss her and humpity humped her. Dunno, but I think her snatch smelled. Oh well, maybe I've been away from CP too long. Did her twice and let her go. Her love stains stayed and kinda stanked the sheets.
Went hunting for BBSes cause they all moved for the night. Don't know why but it was a bit of a hunt to find them. Saw some nice pickings and even on a slow night gals were going in and out of the shops. Maybe she barebacked the previous guy cause her snatch also stunk. I wanted to wash my hands right after rubbing there. I think my fingers still stink as I'm typing. Maybe I've been away from pussy too long. Yeah, got to get re-acquainted with that area. Am I such a noob?
Fuck it. Time for more putang.To Bruce,
I told you so CP is the Capital of the stinky po about 20 % hit rate, ten time higher than any way else in the world no idea what you guy feed them.
Fast Eddie 48
I know it's going to be a really bad experience, but perhaps your Rock Star can hook us up with some nice gals. What do you think?
AsnDragon.Rockstar is back in Henan resting. But she did post a miss you note on my QQ out of the blue. Perhaps her bf left her and she needs a proper shag.
WTF? We always do a BBS gal at 3, eat at 5, and party with the BSD animals from 6:30 till midnight. Get your wrinkly ass over here and stop eating Micky D's on the run. Rock Star it up, baby!Actually last trip I had three good contacts I still connect with. Rockstar, yes she always is welcome, but the new team is from all over, henan, shanxi and fujian. Respectively named Little Rockstar (henan and looks like rockstars little sister, not as many curves) , Tokyo and Little Mermaid (awesome mermaid tat).
From a business perspective, if people are fed well they drink more. They make more on beer than they do on food. I eat one plate of food and most certainly don't drink one beer. At least one place should try it, it can't be a big hotel one like Huihua, would need to be like Jiayi (that hotel is useless) , or shit PP should have done that.
Perhaps the New Lion if it ever opens. Or maybe Haixia should do that. They are off the path.
The bars at Cali and 18 do not start until at least 9, maybe Calired KTV starts later?
I heard you were in Afganistan. Congrats on getting Obama bin Laden. Nice strike.
Worried you wouldn't get out of there alive.
I can only assume you were in a covert operation considering your lack of posting. PM me your dates.
In town.
Bruce,
Last time I saw you must have been a year ago. Haven't had the pleasure to bump into you since then. But then again you romanced a bit too much and had a crowd of girls surrounding you at all times. Drama, Drama!
Ready to party when you are! Yes, same old schedule, BBS at 3 pm, eat at 5 pm. 6:30 with BSD until we get buzzed and horny enough to do the third pop of the day.
Please. This time, don't make another girl end up falling in love with you again please. It ruins the whole mongering experience. In addition, I know where your ex-lover is at now. I bumped into her a few months back.
AsnDragon.
WTF? We always do a BBS gal at 3, eat at 5, and party with the BSD animals from 6:30 till midnight. Get your wrinkly ass over here and stop eating Micky D's on the run. Rock Star it up, baby!
Freepeaks,
Knowing you, you would be willing to fly her down from Henan to give her a good proper shag. Then you'll end up falling in love with her all over again. Which ends up ruining the whole mongering experience once again. But then again. If you like them you like them right? Sometimes. Not always, but sometimes it's better to stick with what you like and what you know, than to venture out to the unknown and get really bad experience.
But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
AsnDragon.
Rockstar is back in Henan resting. But she did post a miss you note on my QQ out of the blue. Perhaps her bf left her and she needs a proper shag.
Azncat,
In regards to taiwanese girls, they are not prettier than China girls. In fact on average, it's just their face that is prettier not their body. I would argue that China girls have much better bodies than Taiwanese girls, hands down! Mostly due to the difference in diet.
Secondly, Taiwanese girls are masters of makeup deception. They only appear prettier because they know how to apply makeup better than China girls. And you are right they do dress nicer so a girl's fashion helps elevate her attractiveness.
But makeup, makeup and makeup! That's the only reason why Taiwanese girls look better than China girls on the streets. But overall, China girls have better overall features to tell you the truth.
That's just my honest opinion. If you don't believe me, check out the before and after pictures of girls without and with makeup. Makeup is a women's best friend.
AsnD.
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Ragon.
Yes, she's very sexy. Oddly enough, I don't actually find her face that attractive. I think it's just the uniform. There's always something about women in uniforms.
BTW, more random info that I forgot to post in my report: you can find costumed girls at the KTVs in Dongguan. I vaguely remember seeing girls in navy uniforms and the like. If that's what you're into, then you will like Dongguan.
(Who am I kidding. I'm into that kind of stuff as well. Next time for sure.)
A sidenote on Taiwan for those who are considering travelling there:
The average Taiwanese girl you see walking on the street is much more attractive than the average girl in China / Hong Kong / Japan. I don't think that it's because they're actually better looking though. I'd chalk it up to two reasons:
1. What I call the "South Korea Effect," where girls get copious amounts of plastic surgery to make themselves look more like models, idols, actresses, and singers.
2. A heavier Western influence. The girls dress better, hold themselves better, are more skilled with putting on make-up, etc.
Taiwanese girls love to go clubbing and dance, and some still have the foreigner fetish. Of course, for freebies, YMMV.
Also, the monger scene does exist here. From what I've heard, though, everything is overpriced, difficult to find, and low quality. You're better off not coming here for that.
Pointpanic
07-28-11, 22:08
WTF? We always do a BBS gal at 3, eat at 5, and party with the BSD animals from 6:30 till midnight. Get your wrinkly ass over here and stop eating Micky D's on the run. Rock Star it up, baby!Glad to see that you are back. Was looking for you in KTVs and Clubs in Taipei. Got to agree with you guys that they are put together pretty well in Taipei and for me at least they speak English!
Then looked for you in CP in June. Saw SEAJoe for all of 30 seconds before heading back Stateside. You, Freepeaks and ASNDragon have fun! Wish I could be there on the same schedule. Legend still there but new one in Jun Hui (Swan Lake). Still lots of fresh young ones waiting to be romanced by you guys. Say high to the Mommies for me!
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OldAsiaHand
07-29-11, 03:16
[QUOTE=AsnDragon; 1181524]But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
[QUOTE]I rarely do a WG more than one time. Maybe, less than 1% of the time. Every once in awhile I find one with exceptional service and I repeat a few times before I get bored. I fondly remember one in CP with a huge rack a few years back. And, I have a handful of girls around the world that I will call when I am not willing to take the "hit or miss" risk. Sometimes, I repeat a girl by mistake because I cannot remember if I did her but she looks good to me in a line-up like she did the first time.
I notice from the posts that many punters "fall in love" or have a special girl that they come back to see every time. I never get emotionally involved with a WG which is probably why I hardly ever get any GFE. In CP, I probably have a reputation in the BBS as a ST punter that changes girls every time which does not help me in this regard.
I realize that, in general, when you repeat a WG, the service and GFE will improve, however, my mission is to do as many girls as possible in my lifetime. Currently, the number is more than my posts on ISG but I've been at it for a lot of years.
Just my POV.
OAH
Do NOT ever go to Zhong Yan clinic on the main hotel drag in Chang Ping in front of the Hui Mei hotel. Total rip-off scam and totally no ethics AT ALL.
My li'l friend and I was just walking on ZhongYan street when I recalled that she had told me previous night that she was experiencing some itching "down there." I'm pretty sure that it's just a very minor case of thrush. Something quite common amongst gals during hot humid weather. And thus decided to just drop in that DEVIL CLINIC to get some OTC meds.
Well. No. The doctor insists that she needs to examine her first. Pay RMB 30 (the start of the trap). All along her / I telling her that we just want a course of medicine to take and definitely NO lousy drip as they're ALWAYS prescribing this in China.
OK. VERY perfunctory examination which only consists of questions and she told us to pay the cashier. RMB 245, which I thought, hmmm, kinda high but OK I guess. Wait in the room. And then this nurse shows up with 4 drips. And which I then protested that this is NOT what we wanted. The supposed Doctor then tells me that the 245 also includes an actual examination of her down there. And so off my friend went by herself to the examination room.
About 10 minutes or so later. The nurse got me and told me to come right away to see something. And when I entered the room, there was my friend with her legs strapped up, an examination tool stuck up her nether region and blood oozing out from the top of her vagina. (she had NOT had any blood discharge, not even spotting prior to this)
The doctor and nurse then telling us that she needs an emergency operation to "cure her." Here all along my friend was just helplessly strapped up and her telling me later on that when they first "examined" her, that she felt little pain but that as it progressed, she then felt a sharp pain. Which I am pretty sure was when the doctor actually just made a cut or wound to cause bleeding.
My friend was of course in a panic and I couldn't even think straight as I was not about to risk her life deciding wrongly. And after more horror proclamations about needing to stop the bleeding and to make sure that her condition was not going to spread to her being unable to give birth in the future etc, I relented and agreed to the operation. Kaching. Another RMB 1, 000.
After the "operation" which lasted a whole of about 5 minutes, and after she recovered from the anaesthesia. It was off to the drip room for a drip, with instructions to come back the next day for a follow up exammination.
Next day. Just a perfunctory examination and then another drip. RMB 245 again. And at the end of the drip. Instructions that she must come back for AT LEAST another 5 days to make sure she completes the antibiotic course. At 245 a pop again.
So all in all its, going to cost about RMB 3, 000. Just because of a bad decision on our part to visit this Quack of a clinic instead of the Chang Ping hospital where I and my friends had usually gone to and where we got good (albeit also a bit pricey. But nothing like this!) and PROPER treatment.
So. Make sure you do NOT ever go to this rip off joint! Its not only going to make a big dent on your pocket. No matter how minor the ailment is. But they're actually going to do you physical harm. Just to rip you off.
WATCH OUT!
SEAJ.
Ps. During the course of the physical exam when my friend was alone with the doctor. Out of the clear blue sky, she had actually asked my friend where her BF is from. To which she absent-mindedly just replied. And which I KNOW its this Thievin' doctor's need to double check to make sure that we were going to be a good target for her scam.Sometimes I think you experience stuff like that so you can tell the world about these things, since you are always a good reporter on the forum.
I have never met anything like that, and I hope I won't in the future either.
TW
[QUOTE=AsnDragon; 1181524]But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
[QUOTE]I realize that, in general, when you repeat a WG, the service and GFE will improve, however, my mission is to do as many girls as possible in my lifetime. Currently, the number is more than my posts on ISG but I've been at it for a lot of years.
Just my POV.
OAHI have a serious question, that I am asking myself, after reading your post. I hope to get an honest answer. Because I am not trying to make you feel bad or anything like that.
You have fckd more than 3000 girls, and usually don't get any good service, right?
What is the fun of having many many girls, or even just one girl, if the experience is not good?
I have also had a lot of girls, but not 3000! And I am not going mongering much anymore, because the service is usually not that great (expecially in China).
What makes you continuing this endevour like an olympic champion?
Why you want to fck as many girls as you can? Do you think there is nothing happier in life than this?
I have not been mongering for almost 20 month, because I don't see the point, unless it is really special, which it is usually not.
Tw
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1181651]
[QUOTE=AsnDragon; 1181524]But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
I have a serious question, that I am asking myself, after reading your post. I hope to get an honest answer. Because I am not trying to make you feel bad or anything like that.
You have fckd more than 3000 girls, and usually don't get any good service, right?
What is the fun of having many many girls, or even just one girl, if the experience is not good?
I have also had a lot of girls, but not 3000! And I am not going mongering much anymore, because the service is usually not that great (expecially in China).
What makes you continuing this endevour like an olympic champion?
Why you want to fck as many girls as you can? Do you think there is nothing happier in life than this?
I have not been mongering for almost 20 month, because I don't see the point, unless it is really special, which it is usually not.
TwTW, I am not trying to be contrary or anything like that as well. It seems to me the answer is a obvious as the reason "we" make different choices at flower street. That's what "floats his boat". I will admit that I tend to be in a constant search for someone that I make a "connection" with instead of the latest place to let "little Sky and the twins visit" for a couple of hours. I have had more difficulty finding that in China, than anyplace I have visited, but lately seem to have hit a "home run" (got the baseball reference in for BT). All of this is my choice, but then again I would prefer a good two hour "veggie" massage with a gal rubbing warm oil on me, to a 1 hr romp with some gal that is sending a sms while I am banging her. It is a matter of perspective, and nothing more. I delight in the tales from gents that have experienced four digits worth of partners, but I tend to try and find one that is "habit forming"!
SE Asia Joe
07-29-11, 13:09
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1181651]
[QUOTE=AsnDragon; 1181524]But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
I have a serious question, that I am asking myself, after reading your post. I hope to get an honest answer. Because I am not trying to make you feel bad or anything like that.
You have fckd more than 3000 girls, and usually don't get any good service, right?
What is the fun of having many many girls, or even just one girl, if the experience is not good?
I have also had a lot of girls, but not 3000! And I am not going mongering much anymore, because the service is usually not that great (expecially in China).
What makes you continuing this endevour like an olympic champion?
Why you want to fck as many girls as you can? Do you think there is nothing happier in life than this?
I have not been mongering for almost 20 month, because I don't see the point, unless it is really special, which it is usually not.
TwHeeeeyyyy. Tightway!
So, MIA for 20 months huh?
And obviously you have NOT been celibate these past 20 months, right?
So pray do tell, what HAVE you been doing in the interim?
Enlighten us with the key to happiness!
Thanks.
And as for my "experience" with that scamming clinic - MAN!!!
I'm truly kicking myself, for I'd think that me, of all people, should NOT have fallen for this trap.
But teaches me to remember to be aware at ALL TIMES in China; all it takes is one moment of carelessness and BOOM - you just got scammed.
And in this case, it is all the more galling as it put my friend in actual danger. And all for the sake of a few RMB's
Talk about being TOTALLY without conscience, and especially when they are the very people that one should be able to and actually MUST trust in matters of life and death.
SEAJ
OldAsiaHand
07-29-11, 13:14
Tightway,
First, let me say that I do not want to get into a row with you like we have in the past, however, I want to clarify:
1) I never said that the service was not usually good. I said,"hit or miss" which means sometimes the service is good, sometimes not. I do not necessarily equate GFE with good service since we all have a different idea what GFE means. To me good service means that the girl puts in extra effort to please me and does what I like. This happens quite often actually.
2) You say you are not mongering anymore for 20 months yet in your post of 3/24/2011 you offered to go mongering in Zhongshan & Zhuhai claiming to know where the action is there.
3) As Sky Ryder has said, the endeavor is what "floats my boat". And, yes, it makes me happy but there are many things that make me happy in life; good friends, a good meal, a veggie massage, a walk on the beach, doing business, etc. Every girl is a new experience, an adventure, the excitement, the unknown territory, a search for the best.
4) My mongering is not limited to China. I travel extensively and have done girls from all over the world. There are a few exceptions that I still want to partake. For example, I have never done a Middle Eastern girl unless you count Turkey. I almost did a girl claiming to be from Syria in FKK in Germany last month, but she was pretty fat and I was not sure she was telling the truth about her origins. I would also like to do girls from as many different countries as possible. I have done all of Asia (including Aus / NZ) and N. America, most of Europe (East and West) , and a lot of Latin America and Africa, although I still have more work to do in the latter two.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Just my POV.
OAH.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1181651]
[QUOTE=AsnDragon; 1181524]But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
I have a serious question, that I am asking myself, after reading your post. I hope to get an honest answer. Because I am not trying to make you feel bad or anything like that.
You have fckd more than 3000 girls, and usually don't get any good service, right?
What is the fun of having many many girls, or even just one girl, if the experience is not good?
I have also had a lot of girls, but not 3000! And I am not going mongering much anymore, because the service is usually not that great (expecially in China).
What makes you continuing this endevour like an olympic champion?
Why you want to fck as many girls as you can? Do you think there is nothing happier in life than this?
I have not been mongering for almost 20 month, because I don't see the point, unless it is really special, which it is usually not.
Tw
Cunning Linguist
07-29-11, 15:23
Tightway,
4) My mongering is not limited to China. I travel extensively and have done girls from all over the world. There are a few exceptions that I still want to partake. For example, I have never done a Middle Eastern girl unless you count Turkey. I almost did a girl claiming to be from Syria in FKK in Germany last month, but she was pretty fat and I was not sure she was telling the truth about her origins. I would also like to do girls from as many different countries as possible. I have done all of Asia (including Aus / NZ) and N. America, most of Europe (East and West) , and a lot of Latin America and Africa, although I still have more work to do in the latter two.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Just my POV.
OAH.
[QUOTE=Tightway; 1181713]
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1181651]I found that my experience in CP was definitely hit and miss but when I hit, I really hit. My best experiences have been in Thailand and Haiti (and a Brazilian I did was fab) , bar none. The worst, in my rather limited experience (compared to yours, e. G.) was the Dominican Republic. I always try to do a girl using her language (though I was unable to do so with a Vietnamese in Macau) as that adds to my pleasure. In any case, what country has provided you with more hits than misses. Curious minds must know!
Member #4144
07-29-11, 17:08
. What is the fun of having many many girls, or even just one girl, if the experience is not good?
I have also had a lot of girls, but not 3000! And I am not going mongering much anymore, because the service is usually not that great (expecially in China).
TwI somehow agree with you, as I do go for the experiences and I found the best come from WGs in China, but then again, my mongering experiences were limited to US / HK / Tailand and a bit in Europe. Unlike OAH, I do repeat with a WG if she was good, and the problem often was that, most of them are, so then the experience of a new girl becomes more exciting.
See my recent experience here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1111-South-China-Zhu-Hai&p=1181837&viewfull=1#post1181837
I do want to stpp, but how can I resist, especially I know I will likely get that again from another girl next time I come to China.
Fillmore
Dear Mongering Brothers,
I don't want to get in the middle of a heated debate. I don't think any of this is necessary. Sometimes when we write things out peple interpret it the wrong way.
But I must modify my previous post. I had written my post quickly without proofreading. I should have written:
"As SEAJOE and OAH say, Variety is the Spice of Life"
OAH-Sometimes I, myself, cannot grasp why I like the GFE feeling. But deep down inside I think all men are on a chase for variety. I see bros on this board that already have a China girl the are emotionally connected to, but they still go out and try to find new girls. I don't believe it is within a man's nature to ever just commit to just one woman- Sexually that is.
But when taking a girl in CP to bed is as easy as opening your wallet, I think most bros like challenges and they like to challenge themselves to see if they can emotionally conquer a woman. But to many bros' surprise. 90% of the time in CP when they feel like they've emotionally captivated a woman, most of it is just acting on the woman's part. In CP, nothing is ever as it seems. So OAH's advice is just enjoy things sexually and don't get yourself involved emotionally and you won't get all screwed up in the head.
AsnDragon
OldAsiaHand
07-30-11, 04:42
Cunning Linguist,
Every country is hit or miss. I have found more hits doing the girls in their own country rather than when you find them working in another country. Exception to this would be the Mongolians in Beijing. IMHO, they may be the most hits when working abroad.
I reckon the highest hit rate for me in Asia is in Thailand; and second, the Khmer girls in Cambodia, followed by the Japanese if you are willing to pay the high prices.
In Europe, I've had the lowest hit rates with Romanians and the highest with the Baltic states; Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. That said, I've also done some German and Swiss girls in FKK that were excellent.
For Latin America, it is a mixed bag. Generally, they perform better than their European counterparts. I've had good luck with Brazil, Peru, Argentina, and not so great with Columbia and Venezuela. I did not do that well in the DR either, but Costa Rica was better.
Africa: The best for me have been from Ethiopia for sure.
One bit of advise I've learned from experience to increase your hit rate is don't try to bargain too much. If a girl quotes me a crazy price, I usually just walk away rather than counteroffer. If she is not happy with the money, the service will reflect this.
Just my POV.
OAH.
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1181794]Tightway,
4) My mongering is not limited to China. I travel extensively and have done girls from all over the world. There are a few exceptions that I still want to partake. For example, I have never done a Middle Eastern girl unless you count Turkey. I almost did a girl claiming to be from Syria in FKK in Germany last month, but she was pretty fat and I was not sure she was telling the truth about her origins. I would also like to do girls from as many different countries as possible. I have done all of Asia (including Aus / NZ) and N. America, most of Europe (East and West) , and a lot of Latin America and Africa, although I still have more work to do in the latter two.
I hope I have answered your questions.
Just my POV.
OAH.
[QUOTE=Tightway; 1181713]I found that my experience in CP was definitely hit and miss but when I hit, I really hit. My best experiences have been in Thailand and Haiti (and a Brazilian I did was fab) , bar none. The worst, in my rather limited experience (compared to yours, e. G.) was the Dominican Republic. I always try to do a girl using her language (though I was unable to do so with a Vietnamese in Macau) as that adds to my pleasure. In any case, what country has provided you with more hits than misses. Curious minds must know!
OldAsiaHand
07-30-11, 04:52
Some guys like to drink, some guys like to gamble, play golf, mahjong, tennis or collect something, coins, stamps, art, etc. Everybody has a hobby. Mine is to monger and collect as many experiences as I can.
Just my POV.
OAH
SE Asia Joe
07-30-11, 07:54
Some guys like to drink, some guys like to gamble, play golf, mahjong, tennis or collect something, coins, stamps, art, etc. Everybody has a hobby. Mine is to monger and collect as many experiences as I can.
Just my POV.
OAHAnd some guys just like to get a rise from others on a forum!
All just fun and games!
SEAJ
In regards to taiwanese girls, they are not prettier than China girls. In fact on average, it's just their face that is prettier not their body. I would argue that China girls have much better bodies than Taiwanese girls, hands down! Mostly due to the difference in diet.
Secondly, Taiwanese girls are masters of makeup deception. They only appear prettier because they know how to apply makeup better than China girls. And you are right they do dress nicer so a girl's fashion helps elevate her attractiveness.
But makeup, makeup and makeup! That's the only reason why Taiwanese girls look better than China girls on the streets. But overall, China girls have better overall features to tell you the truth.To each his own. Everybody's definition of beauty is different, just like how my Arab clients love fat women, just like how my black friends love big asses.
For me, I love going to Taipei because the girls there are the most attractive to me. True, they are good at make-up, and they dress much more fashionably thus enhancing their visual value. But the key thing about Taiwanese girls is that their personalities are so much better than the Chinese women I meet, regardless if they are WGs or not. I can speak Mandarin, so hitting it off with them has been more than gratifying.
And also, depending on where you go in China you get a whole range of body sizes and facial features. Again, to each his own. I have always thought that Taiwanese girls have better looks and features, and I stand by my choice to rate Taiwanese girls top. Just my two cents.
Member #4698
07-30-11, 14:12
Every country is hit or miss. I have found more hits doing the girls in their own country rather than when you find them working in another country. Exception to this would be the Mongolians in Beijing. IMHO, they may be the most hits when working abroad.
I reckon the highest hit rate for me in Asia is in Thailand; and second, the Khmer girls in Cambodia, followed by the Japanese if you are willing to pay the high prices.
One bit of advise I've learned from experience to increase your hit rate is don't try to bargain too much. If a girl quotes me a crazy price, I usually just walk away rather than counteroffer. If she is not happy with the money, the service will reflect this.I agree with this 100 percent. Recently in the BKK Reports thread there was some discussion about Go Go prices in Cowboy and Nana. Some complain that the quoted prices are too high and that they never pay the 2000bt service charge now asked in Baccara and Rainbow bars for ST. These guys say they always negotiate the girls down to their price of 1500bt or walk. I say if that is your approach, fine. But some of these same guys also report they get bad service from the Go Go Girls and as a result hate the Go Go's. They don't seem to be able to connect the dots. If a girl I like quotes me a rate I think is too high, I politely decline her offer. I never bargain with her. If she negotiates her own price down, gitty up, that means she still wants to party. Otherwise, I just let her go and continue the hunt. The result is I have had nothing to complain about with the BKK Go Go bar girls I barfine or the Wanchai FL's I take home. They always give me good service that is pretty close to GFE; soapy shower, BBBJ, DFK, and sex in multiple positions. They never complain and they always want to exchange cell phone numbers and see me again. Sometimes, if I really like the girl, I go back for a second session. Now if I went out with one of these girls more than a couple times that would be another story. I would not meet them in their bars (no BKK barfine) and the service charge would be reduced as well because we would now have some sort of a relationship.
P. S. I am coming to CP in March for the first time. I got to see what's going on here. I am American. I heard I can pick up a Chinese visa in Macau in a day. My tentative plan is to take the ferry to the HKG airport and then hook up with the van service directly into CP. Are there any problems with this plan?
Ibn Buttita
07-30-11, 14:24
Back in March I wrote asking for advice comparing Dongguan and several other Asian destinations with Rio de Janeiro, and got some great responses on the forum here (I reposted them on the What Country has the Best Women for STR? Forum). I ended going to Jakarta, Macau, and Pattaya (reports on those forums). Thanks for all the advice, and I hope I do get to Dongguan eventually.
Cheers,
IB
A few nights ago, we were at HaiXia KTV.
It's a 3 minute ride from the Miraton area, but not all that well-known. The KTV is at the 2nd and 3rd floors I guess, but the flower street is on the 3rd floor. The flower street has around 200 gals, so not large when compared to Mayflower or FuHao or OuYa. I'd say the flower street is comparable to LiHao and Manhattan. No uniforms (not that night at least) and mommies grabbing guys to check out her girls. Girls not too tall or too elegant, but cuties were picked right away (around 6 to 6:20).
The KTV rooms are spacious, clean, and quite modern. Perhaps they renovated and got with the times.
We had a medium sized party of 8 or 9 guys and around 12 girls. One recommendation is ask if the girl goes out because a few of the girls told me they didn't when I asked. Anyway we started playing games with Lady Gaga blaring in the background. We didn't let the girls sing till they're good and drunk haha.
You can order Pizza and some guys did. Not Domino's quality, but it was quickly finished so it couldn't be all that bad (pizza was around 60-70 rmb for a medium sized pie).
Party ended with beer still unopened but the girls were tipsy drunk. All looked ready for the after-party, so even though it was my first time to HaiXia KTV, it was quite fun, but again, go early and ask the girls if they go out. Otherwise, you may get a hottie who is just for drinking.
My little hottie was so sweet that I could fall in love with her. I had to fight all my fantasies of having her as my real gf, so I did the next best thing. Ask her to leave and delete her phone number right away. I did walk her to the cab, saw her get in and kinda shed a tear in my heart, but NO. Can't do that again.
Another party tonight, so more reports to follow.
P. S. I am coming to CP in March for the first time. I got to see what's going on here. I am American. I heard I can pick up a Chinese visa in Macau in a day. My tentative plan is to take the ferry to the HKG airport and then hook up with the van service directly into CP. Are there any problems with this plan?Wow, awesome plan and great timing! I love CP in March! Good weather, good amount of gals, and lots of people around (perhaps Canton Fair or such during this time.).
Dunno about the visa, but perhaps get that taken care of ahead of time. It'd suck to get shut out due to whatever.
HKIA to CP is very convenient and easy. Go to the China Coach area and tell the girls who are selling tickets that you want to go to Chang Ping. It's 210 rmb one way (you can also pay by HK dollars). Also make sure it's the mini-van cause it's a bit more comfy. If by bad luck there are 7 people, then you're stuck sitting next to guys.
You'll most likely get dropped off at Miraton Hotel, Hui Mei Hotel, or a coffee shop (which is pretty silly because all 3 are in the same area). Then cab to your own hotel.
But yeah, you seem to have a great plan.
I heard I can pick up a Chinese visa in Macau in a day. My tentative plan is to take the ferry to the HKG airport and then hook up with the van service directly into CP. Are there any problems with this plan?There is a van service from CP to Zhu Hai. I used it a year or so ago. They must also do the opposite route I guess.
They dropped me in the underground station next to the border crossing. They run 3-4 times daily and it takes about 2. 5 hrs.
Member #4698
07-31-11, 03:15
Wow, awesome plan and great timing! I love CP in March! Good weather, good amount of gals, and lots of people around (perhaps Canton Fair or such during this time.).
Dunno about the visa, but perhaps get that taken care of ahead of time. It'd suck to get shut out due to whatever.
HKIA to CP is very convenient and easy. Go to the China Coach area and tell the girls who are selling tickets that you want to go to Chang Ping. It's 210 rmb one way (you can also pay by HK dollars). Also make sure it's the mini-van cause it's a bit more comfy. If by bad luck there are 7 people, then you're stuck sitting next to guys.
You'll most likely get dropped off at Miraton Hotel, Hui Mei Hotel, or a coffee shop (which is pretty silly because all 3 are in the same area). Thanks for the good advice BruceTea. I will definitely take the China Coach mini-van to CP. I agree that taking care of the Chinese Visa ahead of time is the safe way to do it. Unless I hear that for sure it can be done inside of 24 hours in Macau; I will give my passport to a friend who lives in Chicago and have him take it to the Chinese consulate there. I don't want to be denied entry at the last moment.
I am really looking forward to CP this upcoming trip in addition to stopping by old favorites Macau, BKK, Pattaya, & AC and checking out one other new watering hole; Cebu plus a couple of fine beaches in Northern Palawan. It is going to be one hell of a good trip. As you can see, I like to mix up my selection of girls. Thais have always been favorites of mine. I find them sexy and fun to be with. Filipinas are up for just about anything and are good lovers. Being with Asian girls that speak English fluently is generally a plus. But lately I have been getting really turned on by Chinese girls. They are so damn attractive. In Thailand and PI I usually hook up with spinners, but in Macau I have been increasingly going for taller girls (5.5) with natural 'A' and 'B' cup ta ta's and athletic bodies. OMG!
So let me know if you will be around CP in March. I'll buy the first round.
NB
OldAsiaHand
07-31-11, 04:48
Natty Bumpo,
The BKK Go-Go girl pricing and attitude has gotten out of hand. I very rarely take them out anymore unless I see one that I absolutely have to do. Then, I just pay whatever she is asking for ST. Many of them, do not even want to go with you to your hotel if it involves a taxi ride. They would rather just use a ST hotel nearby. And, LT can be out of the question at any price a lot of the time. IMHO, the same thing is happening in Wanchai, especially with the S. Americans and the real stunners from Asia. What ever happened to,"Up to you'? I remember 300 Baht ST in BKK Go-Go but I am an old geezer.
You better double check the visa situation in Macau. The situation changes there. Another option, would be for you to cross the border to Zhuhai and grab the van service (not as regular as HKIA) or a bus from there to CP. At HKIA, I think you need to pass HK immigration in order to take the ground transport to the mainland. This is not the case for air or sea transit.
Just my POV.
OAH.
I agree with this 100 percent. Recently in the BKK Reports thread there was some discussion about Go Go prices in Cowboy and Nana. Some complain that the quoted prices are too high and that they never pay the 2000bt service charge now asked in Baccara and Rainbow bars for ST. These guys say they always negotiate the girls down to their price of 1500bt or walk. I say if that is your approach, fine. But some of these same guys also report they get bad service from the Go Go Girls and as a result hate the Go Go's. They don't seem to be able to connect the dots. If a girl I like quotes me a rate I think is too high, I politely decline her offer. I never bargain with her. If she negotiates her own price down, gitty up, that means she still wants to party. Otherwise, I just let her go and continue the hunt. The result is I have had nothing to complain about with the BKK Go Go bar girls I barfine or the Wanchai FL's I take home. They always give me good service that is pretty close to GFE; soapy shower, BBBJ, DFK, and sex in multiple positions. They never complain and they always want to exchange cell phone numbers and see me again. Sometimes, if I really like the girl, I go back for a second session. Now if I went out with one of these girls more than a couple times that would be another story. I would not meet them in their bars (no BKK barfine) and the service charge would be reduced as well because we would now have some sort of a relationship.
P. S. I am coming to CP in March for the first time. I got to see what's going on here. I am American. I heard I can pick up a Chinese visa in Macau in a day. My tentative plan is to take the ferry to the HKG airport and then hook up with the van service directly into CP. Are there any problems with this plan?
SE Asia Joe
07-31-11, 07:11
I agree with this .P. S. I am coming to CP in March for the first time. I got to see what's going on here. I am American. I heard I can pick up a Chinese visa in Macau in a day. My tentative plan is to take the ferry to the HKG airport and then hook up with the van service directly into CP. Are there any problems with this plan?Go to the official website of the Chinese Foreign Ministry
http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/
for details of China visa in Hong Kong. Which I presume / pretty sure also applies equally for Macau. There you will see that a 24 hour visa is going to cost extra. And thus if you've got till March, I'd strongly advise you to get your visa in the USA prior to coming.
On your plan to go back ON THE FERRY to the HK airport to catch the van service to CP. Please note that the SkyPier ferry service is for TRANSIT passengers only. It is not applicable to passengers just wanting to come to Hong Kong. So that's out for you, unless they've got a proviso I don't know about, for passengers to clear Hong Kong custom/immigration in Macau, then you'd need to again exit/clear immigration/custom when getting off in Hong Kong. But I doubt it.
Instead, just go on the regular ferry to Hong Kong Shun Tak centre, get off, go down one floor and get on the bus direct to CP. Yeah, the bus and not private van as I don't think they've got vans from there (not sure. Check). But its quit a nice ride / conveniently drops you off at the Hui Mei hotel on the main Hotel drag.
SEAJ
Lattelatte
07-31-11, 10:30
I don't remember when I went, but I recall having a great time.
First time in CP and first time meeting BSD. Overall I had a blast. I speak 0 Chinese, but still went w / a friend and met BSD's party gang which is great to hang and drink, play some stupid games and pick some ho's to bang. Overall I think BSD's service is awesome and he was reliable and got me my hotel etc and it was awesome. I may go again mid Aug if anyone is around that weekend of 12th. I met some dentist from LA who was moving to HKG, drop me a note if you are around and have moved!
Anyways just wanted to note my comparison to Macau which I go to 4x a year between TKY- HKG business trips and otherwise.
+ Macau:
+ I know the scene really well.
+ More english speakers outside and inside sauna / clubs.
+ Closer to HKG.
+ Great pool / relaxing areas esp Hard Rock and Sofitel.
+ CP.
+ waaaaay cheaper. These days hotels at Macau are like $200-$300 a night fri / sat. Clipper was like $60 and very decent
+ girls were equally hot and much cheaper.
+ less chance of being seen by a customer, coworker etc as I am in Macau!
One negative which can probably be fixed with more experience is lack of "relaxing places" in CP outside club scene. During daytime, outside Clipper is like hellhole akin to AC of Philipines w / o the movie theaters. I didn't find much to do / eat / relax outside club hours and a 2. 5hr massage.
Anyways CP is great, I shall go again soon!
SE Asia Joe
07-31-11, 12:52
I don't remember when I went, but I recall having a great time.
First time in CP and first time meeting BSD. Overall I had a blast. I speak 0 Chinese, but.
One negative which can probably be fixed with more experience is lack of "relaxing places" in CP outside club scene. During daytime, outside Clipper is like hellhole akin to AC of Philipines w / o the movie theaters. I didn't find much to do / eat / relax outside club hours and a 2. 5hr massage.
Anyways CP is great, I shall go again soon!OK. Next time you get here. Get BS Dave to take you / point you to.
- Pozolim or some other VERY RELAXING foot massages, nice snacks, and a nice relaxing place to re-charge.
-Go to Tesco shopping mall for a Movie night.
- Go for go-karting.
- Book you into the Hui Hua for just a bit more $$, as they've also got a nice swimming pool.
- Go shopping for cheap items like RMB 1, 000 for a FULL SET of fake but very good and usable golf clubs (Alley way between Hui Hua and Miraton) , fake but again VERY good Xanchai telephones, (some with even MORE features than the original genuine stuff) , phone accessories etc.
- Rub shoulders with the locals and go golfing at CP's + nearby courses for under US$150 with full caddy services, cart and nice club house etc.
- And since you're in CP, of course go for afternoon delights at the various saunas, BBS's etc.
- Try your luck accosting gals walking about, hanging out at Starbucks, Huaren / Vanguard mall/Walking street etc. Chances are, you're going to succeed since there ARE a lot of WG's walking about on their down times.
- Worse come to worse, you can choose a nice little coffee shop / restaurant with a nice view of the street and partake of the favorite pastime of tourists all over the world - People watching! And specifically for CP, Gal watching our SOP's!
Now. You going to again be a wet blanket on your next visit here?
LOL!
SEAJ
StinkyFeet
07-31-11, 17:56
+ girls were equally hot and much cheaper.You sure about that? I have yet to see a 10 in changping ever. More like 6-7s. In Macao. The norm is like 7-9s, with some 10s mixed in. Changping girls are poor, cannot afford plastic surgery, unlike there macao counterparts.
StinkyFeet
07-31-11, 18:04
For me, I love going to Taipei because the girls there are the most attractive to me. True, they are good at make-up, and they dress much more fashionably thus enhancing their visual value. But the key thing about Taiwanese girls is that their personalities are so much better than the Chinese women I meet, regardless if they are WGs or not. I can speak Mandarin, so hitting it off with them has been more than gratifying.I agree 500% that typical taiwanese girls personalities are much better then typical Chinese girls (even the cosmopolitan ones such as shanghai). I can sit down and have a enjoyable chat versus a Chinese girl which sometimes be difficult. Also. Maybe I'm just lucky. But 30% of the taiwanese girls I know are fairly busty at the chest. So nice!
I agree 500% that typical taiwanese girls personalities are much better then typical Chinese girls (even the cosmopolitan ones such as shanghai). I can sit down and have a enjoyable chat versus a Chinese girl which sometimes be difficult. Also. Maybe I'm just lucky. But 30% of the taiwanese girls I know are fairly busty at the chest. So nice!At the onset, yes; I agreed with you. but Taiwanese women are know for their temper, just ask anyone that is married to one. Nuff said, just IMHO! On the other hand; think you need to introduce me to your Taiwanese girls, the one I know are all flat chested! Totally airport!
Mmlouie
Diefrankfurter
08-01-11, 09:49
I'm coming this month and heard that I may have to visit this place. I'm a noob. I don't know much about China and I'm an american citizen. Should I go here? Where do I go and what's the going rate?
I'm an american will I have problems?
Thanks for anyone that can help
Member #4144
08-01-11, 15:04
You sure about that? I have yet to see a 10 in changping ever. More like 6-7s. In Macao. The norm is like 7-9s, with some 10s mixed in. Changping girls are poor, cannot afford plastic surgery, unlike there macao counterparts.I agree, that CP girls are mostly in the middle range. This makes it much harder to have GFE with those 8 or above since they see themselves as better and no need to treat the customer the same way as those 6-7s. I found my experience in Panyu and Zhuhai much better with prettier girls, since those places are full of them and they don't feel being special as a 8 or 9 girl. CP is great for partying and for vacuum dance, but not for great sex with really hot girls.
Fillmore
You sure about that? I have yet to see a 10 in changping ever. More like 6-7s. In Macao. The norm is like 7-9s, with some 10s mixed in. Changping girls are poor, cannot afford plastic surgery, unlike there macao counterparts.I've seen several 10's. But my 10 is different from yours, so don't know what to say. But there are those tall, busty, pearly, leggy movie-star-like beauties in Saunas or KTVs. Not everyday, since they get picked or taken very quickly, but I've seen several even as recent as a few days ago.
Perhaps Royal Garden or OuYa has what you're looking for. But I'm sure you can find some 10s in Hui Hua, Penninsula, Mayflower, and even Fu Hao.
In any case, I'd say there are those miss rights out there. But plenty more miss right nows. And right now, the sex-is-a-good!
Fast Eddie 48
08-01-11, 22:34
I've seen several 10's. But my 10 is different from yours, so don't know what to say. But there are those tall, busty, pearly, leggy movie-star-like beauties in Saunas or KTVs. Not everyday, since they get picked or taken very quickly, but I've seen several even as recent as a few days ago.
Perhaps Royal Garden or OuYa has what you're looking for. But I'm sure you can find some 10s in Hui Hua, Penninsula, Mayflower, and even Fu Hao.
In any case, I'd say there are those miss rights out there. But plenty more miss right nows. And right now, the sex-is-a-good!To Bruce,
The tall Model quality are avalible but they are hard to find all get taking fast or become mistress by rich Hong Kong uncle, I saw on my last trip in KTV uniform with 2 HK guy in a cafe across from the Clipper around 5pm, I almost walk up to her and ask her her name and which KTV she work at, but she might be already spoken for the night and the 2 guy look like gangster.
Fast Eddie 48
The tall Model quality are avalible but they are hard to find all get taking fast or become mistress by rich Hong Kong uncle, I saw on my last trip in KTV uniform with 2 HK guy in a cafe across from the Clipper around 5pm, I almost walk up to her and ask her her name and which KTV she work at, but she might be already spoken for the night and the 2 guy look like gangster.Oh, very true, FE48!
10's are there and command premiums, but this is expected anywhere in the world. After all, there can only be so many 10's for 10's to be "special." I have partied with dudes who are in constant searches for 10's in CP and would leave Saunas or KTVs if he does not find his 10. One person who comes to mind is Jim Traveler. That dude selects girls like he's judging a Miss China contest, everything must be there and costs is not a factor. I could also think of some others whose selction is very very demanding. It'll take time and money to find these gems, but my friends do find them.
The other night a friend took a very pretty girl who looks like a magazine model with big breasts, lucious lips, pearly white skin, and just perfect in every way body. She wasn't tall, though, perhaps 5 feet 6 and a bit more with higher heels. Turns out, she is great in the KTV room, but once in the hotel room, she is very bitchy, does what she wants, has bruises all over her body, and would not allow groping of her precious breasts. Oh well, another report from a good friend of a bad experience from a totally knock-out diva. Not uncommon anywhere around the world.
SE Asia Joe
08-02-11, 04:24
YMMV!
In other words, a pork chop in your eyes may easily be the voluptuous, sensous dream of a girl for another monger!
Think about it. Otherwise, how could sooooo many gals who are in your eyes pork chops, manage to survive as a WG.
If everybody's definition of beauty is the same, then I think this would be a much less interesting world!
And also, why obsess about ratings?
Why don't you just choose as best as you can, then consider whoever you happen to be with that night a 10?
Makes for a more satisfying exprience each time!
OK OK. No flames about my lo-brow tastes!
SEAJ
Freepeaks,
Knowing you, you would be willing to fly her down from Henan to give her a good proper shag. Then you'll end up falling in love with her all over again. Which ends up ruining the whole mongering experience once again. But then again. If you like them you like them right? Sometimes. Not always, but sometimes it's better to stick with what you like and what you know, than to venture out to the unknown and get really bad experience.
But as SEAJOE and OAH say, spice is the variety of life.
AsnDragon.Yeah but venturing out to find the greener grass seems like a great idea until you get that bad service. You are all optomistic at the beginning on the night, supposing you find a few cuties (and don't have a bad lineup) the world is all rosy until you find out they are a dud, then you think dang could have had _____ come over and saved my money. It is gambling and losing and no one likes to lose.
[QUOTE=Tightway; 1181713]
[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1181651]to a 1 hr romp with some gal that is sending a sms while I am banging her.Dude not nice to go trashing my fetish. I love when they text when I'm banging them.
Jk.
But I did do a girl one time while she chatted with her boyfriend on QQ, and rode my lap. Kind of fun. More riding and more of him typing zai ma?
haha
My little hottie was so sweet that I could fall in love with her. I had to fight all my fantasies of having her as my real gf, so I did the next best thing. Ask her to leave and delete her phone number right away. I did walk her to the cab, saw her get in and kinda shed a tear in my heart, but NO. Can't do that again.
Another party tonight, so more reports to follow.So you sent her home and intentionally deleted her phone number? Rainout doing rain dances. What's next brother?
You'll most likely get dropped off at Miraton Hotel, Hui Mei Hotel, or a coffee shop (which is pretty silly because all 3 are in the same area). Then cab to your own hotel.Note if you talk with the driver and ask him to drop you at another location and indicate you'll give him 20 RMB (usually what I offer, cab fare x2) they will drop you at the hotel directly. Often the vans aren't that full to CP and with only a few customers he will do it. Sometimes they ask for more, it is the convenience of not unloading and finding a cab.
StinkyFeet
08-02-11, 05:48
I agree, that CP girls are mostly in the middle range. This makes it much harder to have GFE with those 8 or above since they see themselves as better and no need to treat the customer the same way as those 6-7s. I found my experience in Panyu and Zhuhai much better with prettier girls, since those places are full of them and they don't feel being special as a 8 or 9 girl. CP is great for partying and for vacuum dance, but not for great sex with really hot girls.
FillmoreAre you reminiscing? I visited zhuhai last year and it was dead. Unbelievable dead. I saw only one girl and she was a 9 but I lost my opportunity with her. Sigh. Where can you find the hot zhuhai girls?
YMMV!
In other words, a pork chop in your eyes may easily be the voluptuous, sensous dream of a girl for another monger!
Think about it. Otherwise, how could sooooo many gals who are in your eyes pork chops, manage to survive as a WG.
SEAJBecause of BSD expats used to real quality extra crackling pork chops. Very few Chinese girls qualify as pork chops. Unless you've been in China far too long. I've only taken a few back to the shop here.
Sardaukar1
08-02-11, 05:54
Are you reminiscing? I visited zhuhai last year and it was dead. Unbelievable dead. I saw only one girl and she was a 9 but I lost my opportunity with her. Sigh. Where can you find the hot zhuhai girls?At the bars. Not the hooker bars at LHL but the real bars quite a bit of distance from Gongbei border.
Sardaukar1
08-02-11, 05:56
Are you reminiscing? I visited zhuhai last year and it was dead. Unbelievable dead. I saw only one girl and she was a 9 but I lost my opportunity with her. Sigh. Where can you find the hot zhuhai girls?Ooops forgot to attach address. The bars are at Shui Wan Lu aka "Bar Street"
I'm coming this month and heard that I may have to visit this place. I'm a noob. I don't know much about China and I'm an american citizen. Should I go here? Where do I go and what's the going rate?
I'm an american will I have problems?
Thanks for anyone that can helpStep 1: Get Chinese Visa preferably before you arrive.
Step 2: E-mail BSD in advance (see Classifieds) to see if you can join his party (if any). BSD could also do hotel bookings with most premium Chinese grade hotels.
Forget about international chain hotels eg, Holiday Inn, Sheraton, Sofitel. Etc. IMO they are too far away.
Step 3: To go to CP from HKIA. Read this carefully.
http://www.havefuninchina.com/news.asp?menuid=10470&supmenuid=10465
Good luck
As most will know there's slight "wind" in CP right now.
Bros take note of the following when cheonging in KTV.
1) Don't do drugs in the KTV room.
2) If playing cards in the KTV room. Do not place any money on the table top.
As and when the police will do routine checks in random rooms.
Every now and then the Dongguan officials will organise a "clean up" show. It's all wayang. As cheongsters we must also do our part to co-orperate in this wayang. Trust me you'll be safe and CP is the safest place to cheong whenever there's any "clean up" if you do your part as well. Cheers.
By the way Yi Hao KTV hostesses are back to wearing uniforms since last night. Still no flower street yet.
This weekend will be very packed due to the Singapore National Day on 9th Aug.
Jon Guoren
08-02-11, 14:16
I'm coming this month and heard that I may have to visit this place. I'm a noob. I don't know much about China and I'm an american citizen. Should I go here? Where do I go and what's the going rate?
I'm an american will I have problems?
Thanks for anyone that can helpHi, I am also and will be there towards end of Aug. What are your dates? As I will also be in HK it may be possible to accompany you (I can speak Chinese and know BSD already).
Because of BSD expats used to real quality extra crackling pork chops. Very few Chinese girls qualify as pork chops. Unless you've been in China far too long. I've only taken a few back to the shop here.Pork chop usually (not all the time) provides good service, and I usually pick them for good ROI in SN, especially in 3p arrangement. I'd pick an 8 to romance, and pork chop to pleasure other parts of my body. They know they can't compete for the look, and make up for the service.
Just my 2 fen.
Staid.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1181746]
[QUOTE=Tightway; 1181713]Dude not nice to go trashing my fetish. I love when they text when I'm banging them.
Jk.
But I did do a girl one time while she chatted with her boyfriend on QQ, and rode my lap. Kind of fun. More riding and more of him typing zai ma?
HahaI once was asked to stop what I was doing (doggie style) because her sugar daddy was calling. She was a freebie, and stopped coming around after that. Guess she felt guilty.
Member #4144
08-02-11, 16:47
Are you reminiscing? I visited zhuhai last year and it was dead. Unbelievable dead. I saw only one girl and she was a 9 but I lost my opportunity with her. Sigh. Where can you find the hot zhuhai girls?Please see my recent post on Zhuhai board. I only go to KTV and they have been as alive as ever. Zhuhai ktvs have many macau girls waiting for their visa, which is why the norm there is at a higher bar. Granted CP has hot girls too, but they know it and thus they have the attitude, since they are exception, not the norm. Zhuhai KTV, on the other hand, have hot girls as the norm and thus I find those girls are much easier to connect to.
When I come to CP, I have learnt my lesson and only pick the slightly older 7, and never bother with those younger 8 or 9, and it has been working out great.
Fillmore
This is the 2nd time in CP where the chick just rode me bareback w / o my consent. I thought she was going to just grind me as I didn't see her take off her undies. Granted it was a repeat with her, the first time was protected, but it was too dangerous. I didn't know until was too late.
In your experience, how often do you bareback a girl? Was it consensual?
There need to be some organizations to educate the girls in CP to keep them safe, and us mongers play longer.
Sardaukar1
08-02-11, 22:01
In your experience, how often do you bareback a girl? Was it consensual?Um, NEVER? Barebacking any girls you meet for the first time, be it WG or civi, is like playing Russian roulette. I make damn sure the dom is on before bonking. Every single time.
StinkyFeet
08-03-11, 05:12
Please see my recent post on Zhuhai board. I only go to KTV and they have been as alive as ever. Zhuhai ktvs have many macau girls waiting for their visa, which is why the norm there is at a higher bar. Granted CP has hot girls too, but they know it and thus they have the attitude, since they are exception, not the norm. Zhuhai KTV, on the other hand, have hot girls as the norm and thus I find those girls are much easier to connect to.
When I come to CP, I have learnt my lesson and only pick the slightly older 7, and never bother with those younger 8 or 9, and it has been working out great.
FillmoreThank you for the insight. I didn't know zhuhai KTV could be this good. I will try it out next time.
SE Asia Joe
08-03-11, 21:48
I am taking the liberty of Copy and pasting up Sardaukar's post on another forum which should be self explanatory:
I came across an article in Chinese newspapers on this exact topic, posted last week. The "Changping Women's Hospital" has been closed down by authorities after being sued by a patient for:
- it is merely a registered "clinic" but calls itself a "hospital"
- the "doctors" are not certified doctors.
- providing services and medical equipment that are beyond what the clinic is qualified for.
- charging check-up fees while its ad clearly stated all check-ups are free.
A doctor used some hardened cotton stick to create a wound in the patient's private parts and then claimed she had some serious disease.
Full article can be found here:
http://8601234.com/static/html/2011/07-30/8063.xhtmlThe following is a Google translation of the article.
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Insider profits Changping Women's Hospital gynecologist no qualification was closed down.
2011-07-30 09:01:27 Source: Network View comments.
August 18, Changping Women's Hospital are some of the local health department law enforcement agencies seized. This comes from a female hospital staff to the Municipal Health Bureau Finance submitted a Report data.
Yesterday, the informer told reporters listed Changping Women's Hospital and more sin: This is the operating range is a registered surgical clinic, but a pseudonym for the hospital, and over the range of gynecological operations, people and other projects; Zuozhen no doctors gynecologist practice qualification certificate, but each time the Municipal Health Bureau in the investigation, unlicensed doctors always avoid going out in advance, and will exceed the scope of operations of the apparatus removed.
Monthly advertising fee of 10 million.
Informer Wang Wei (pseudonym) from Guangxi, Jane, after a medical school, worked in Shenzhen, Dongguan, the number of private medical institutions. After the Spring Festival in 2009, she entered the Changping woman working at the hospital. She said that as a medical student who could not stand clinics so Kengren true, this industry is desperate, so he denounced real name, I in June of this year resigned from the clinic.
She said on the letter provided by the report, in fact, the title of Women's Hospital, Chang Ping, Dongguan Hua for the medical clinic, located in Changping Town, Fuxing Road. 28-30, but hit the flag to the hospital without permission. Registered in the Municipal Health Bureau, its operations departments are allowed to medicine, surgery and traditional Chinese medicine, but in fact has a gynecological (a) , gynecology (B) , General, B-rooms, laboratories and treatment rooms, surgery room and other departments, openly practiced beyond the scope of operations.
Wang Wei, said the clinic is often the name the name of big public and Women's Hospital Send a health care advertising, to attract patients."Clinic a month spending 30 million, of which costs for advertising, reaching more than 10 million, including the posting of outdoor advertising, print magazines. Clinic inside the environment, equipment, crude, and even hired doctors are not qualified to practice The."
She also disclosed that a total staff of more than 30 clinics, including a general practitioner, two gynecologists and a high-Kang. 2 physician assistants and 5 nurses. The remaining staff, to distribute the light as "woman Square" and other publicity magazines of the support staff have five.
Monthly income of at least undocumented twenty-five thousand doctors.
Based on information revealed, the clinic opened last year, total revenue reached 6. 473 million yuan, the monthly expenditure of 30 million clinic, annual profit in two million to three million yuan between.
Understanding based on Jane Wei, medical clinics inside of undocumented treatment linked to performance. Paul base wage of $ 15000-20000 per month; month results if more than 30 million yuan, according to the performance of 10% on commission."Their monthly income will be in 25000-40000 yuan during the period, the annual income of 300, 000 yuan fine. The performance of doctors under the pressure of temptation and the boss, has already lost the fundamental medical ethics."
Spring of this year, Changping Women's Hospital has encountered a single medical malpractice, and thus word of mouth and reputation landed. Opened this year, the amount of land is very clear to the end of June this year, the clinic opened a total of $ 1. 906 million yuan.
Beyond the scope of operations department was closed down.
Resignation of Wang Wei submitted to the Municipal Health Bureau informant information. Municipal Health Bureau requested the departments concerned to implement investigation. Wang Wei on the information, Changping health law enforcement agencies that did denounce the content is true, on July 18 seized Changping Women's Hospital over the scope of operations departments.
Wang Wei, with sue letter, patient receipt, the original prescription, clinic revenue summary and other information to reporters rebellion. She said, the boss of these very strict data management, receipts, invoices, etc. Is simply turned over every day."These data are secretly hidden before I leave down."
She informed the correspondent, the Municipal Health Bureau met each inspection, illegal immigrant doctors and assistant doctors will escape the clinic in advance to avoid, logistics, operations staff will soon exceed the scope of the instrument removed.
Yesterday, the reporter went to the clinic found that the second floor women one woman two sections were affixed seal the health sector, and its boss, Chen claimed not clinics, already back home in Fujian."Indeed, had the health department clinics we checked, we have to do a very passive." Chen on the phone so inform the correspondent.
SMS sent to Wang Wei Chen said: "We usually wait you do not thin, why you do such a thing?"
&9632; sue letter in the open "form of operations."
1 After claiming that "check all free" advertising magazine, hiring support staff and temporary workers in the downtown area, industrial zone four distributed to absorb patients. 2 were directed at the "Check all free of charge" to enter the clinic, Vaccine Immunol will layout the registration, cancellation of material, then to women with one or two subjects triage women. 3 course called "inspection fee free", but still charge 60-80 yuan, ranging from inspection fees. B-4 and the patient's laboratory tests, and then brought to the gynecological Gynecological room assistant. When the assistant for gynecological examination, the cervix is &8203; &8203; normal or whether there is corruption, then this patient has a serious gynecological diseases or exaggerating illness, flicker patient's cyst, cervical corruption, treatment and surgical drainage, etc. (costs roughly in 800-2800 per month).5 each for a doctor to do abortions cost, asking price differences are not, in fact, with the stability of the needle is "doing anesthetic," but normal flow of patients to do the first day, they are not arranged surgery, but in patients serious gynecological diseases, anti-inflammatory needle must hit the ground a few days, continue to drag thirty-four days later to do (the patient does not know the clinic has been operating beyond the scope of qualifications). The cost of the first day of normal patients have cysts (treatment costs 380 yuan. 480 yuan. 680 per month) , cervical corruption (treatment costs 1, 500 yuan. 1,800 yuan. 2500 yuan. 2800 per month) , abortion costs (treatment fee of 480 yuan. 580 yuan. 680 yuan. 880 yuan. 1080 yuan. 1280 dollars) , plus the days of drugs and cheated treatment costs were two or three thousand to more than $ 4, 000. Doctors do regular check-ups or medical expenses will cost to open a prescription on the same, but graded to open, once again gradually emptied of patients. The day did not bring cash or bank cards, such as drip and done so after the treatment of patients, the doctor will ask drivers and logistics personnel accompanying patients home to get money. 6 doctor will then explain to eliminate inflammation in patients with the needle over the next few days the water, cost about two or three hundred a day in between. To make abortion the day in patients with stable needle "do anesthetic", when patients enter the confused state, the doctor has told its excessive bleeding during surgery, use the hemostatic and hemostasis, letting family members turn in five-six patients various other expenses. 7 the average patient in the clinic during the treatment will take as little as seven or eight thousand to more than one or two million. Some patients Dongnuexijie cobble together the money, some patients are emptied several years of accumulation.
This is the 2nd time in CP where the chick just rode me bareback w / o my consent. I thought she was going to just grind me as I didn't see her take off her undies. Granted it was a repeat with her, the first time was protected, but it was too dangerous. I didn't know until was too late.
In your experience, how often do you bareback a girl? Was it consensual?
There need to be some organizations to educate the girls in CP to keep them safe, and us mongers play longer.The funny thing is alot of the girls want the use of condom not to prevent STD's but rather they don't want to get pregnant. Either way its better to play it safe!
Fast Eddie 48
08-04-11, 04:05
This is the 2nd time in CP where the chick just rode me bareback w / o my consent. I thought she was going to just grind me as I didn't see her take off her undies. Granted it was a repeat with her, the first time was protected, but it was too dangerous. I didn't know until was too late.
In your experience, how often do you bareback a girl? Was it consensual?
There need to be some organizations to educate the girls in CP to keep them safe, and us mongers play longer.To Staid Lo,
You must be naive or crazy Never barback any WG I don't even Bare Back non pro, just too danger if you vaule your life most girl from the village are naive they don't know better but you are educated right.
Fast Eddie 48
Facing the intense competition from Yi Hao KTV. Lately Ou Ya KTV has implemented the mobile phones of hostesses to be switched off once entering the KTV room.
Yi Hao KTV started the trend of "locking up" of hostesses' mobile phones since opening on 14th Dec 2010. More KTVs may follow suit in the future.
I am currently working here in Hangzhou and will go to Hong Kong for 5 day work. I want to stay in Dongguan CP for weekend as I spend too much time in Hong Kong and really have almost little interest over there. The good old times of HK is another story.
I know about reading the old posts about CP and which I did but I have several questions.
1- For a single newbie which place you can advice? I don't want to be hunted while going to hunting.
2- I really want to give a try to KTV scene in CP. Which KTV you can advice for me? I see that different people advice different ones. Actually a little confused about it.
3- In Hangzhou I have been to KTV several times. But the going rate is quit hurting here. It is not about being laowai. As I am mostly with my local friends who are factory owners. Even for them they quote 2000 RMB LT price (excluding openning room cost, etc. That is you pay to girl to come outside). I guess the reasons is those rich Chinese people prefer to come to Hangzhou for holiday. And during holiday they don't care about how much to spend.
How much shall I expect to spend for a good night in KTV?
4- I will be there on 12th August. If there are anyone who wants to hangout or wants one more wingman they can count me in.
Two years ago when I visited Guangzhou some friends take me to a hotel in Dongguan. I think it was not in CP. It was very close to Sheraton and was a gigantic hotel. (Really many buildings connected) or I was so drunk I feel like that. THey take us to a place with 20-25 girls of lining. And if you don't like then another 25 girls were coming. I choose one and she really did a very good job, no complains about BBBJ which is a little hard to find here in Hangzhou. Do any fellow mongers can help me about that hotel?
I am currently working here in Hangzhou and will go to Hong Kong for 5 day work. I want to stay in Dongguan CP for weekend as I spend too much time in Hong Kong and really have almost little interest over there. The good old times of HK is another story.
I know about reading the old posts about CP and which I did but I have several questions.
1- For a single newbie which place you can advice? I don't want to be hunted while going to hunting.
2- I really want to give a try to KTV scene in CP. Which KTV you can advice for me? I see that different people advice different ones. Actually a little confused about it.
3- In Hangzhou I have been to KTV several times. But the going rate is quit hurting here. It is not about being laowai. As I am mostly with my local friends who are factory owners. Even for them they quote 2000 RMB LT price (excluding openning room cost, etc. That is you pay to girl to come outside). I guess the reasons is those rich Chinese people prefer to come to Hangzhou for holiday. And during holiday they don't care about how much to spend.
How much shall I expect to spend for a good night in KTV?
4- I will be there on 12th August. If there are anyone who wants to hangout or wants one more wingman they can count me in.
Two years ago when I visited Guangzhou some friends take me to a hotel in Dongguan. I think it was not in CP. It was very close to Sheraton and was a gigantic hotel. (Really many buildings connected) or I was so drunk I feel like that. THey take us to a place with 20-25 girls of lining. And if you don't like then another 25 girls were coming. I choose one and she really did a very good job, no complains about BBBJ which is a little hard to find here in Hangzhou. Do any fellow mongers can help me about that hotel?See post #367 on Classified Ads from April 7th 2011.
Contact Big Swinging Dave to book a hotel for you and give you a two hour tour of CP and join one of his KTV parties and you will not regret it.
He is a young and very nice fellow. He will open CP doors for you.
Worth every penny.
My two pennies.
Sardaukar1
08-06-11, 06:22
Two years ago when I visited Guangzhou some friends take me to a hotel in Dongguan. I think it was not in CP. It was very close to Sheraton and was a gigantic hotel. (Really many buildings connected) or I was so drunk I feel like that. THey take us to a place with 20-25 girls of lining. And if you don't like then another 25 girls were coming. I choose one and she really did a very good job, no complains about BBBJ which is a little hard to find here in Hangzhou. Do any fellow mongers can help me about that hotel?You were in Houjie Town of Dongguan, more than 1 hour drive away from CP. The hotel that you went to is likely the "Houjie International Hotel."
Master Monger
08-06-11, 07:37
Dongguan has almost 6000 posts is it the Best place to live in China, and if not where is?
I am moving out of Shenzhen, I want find a place where the girls are excited to see a foreigner and freebies and girlfriends are easy to come by. So tell us about which place you think is best in China and why.
Anybody have any recommendations where I should move in China or should I go to the Philippines, Thailand, or maybe back to South America. Any info is much appreciated I am looking for:
Hot young non-pro girls who like and are very happy and excited to see white skinned, blue eyed. 181cm tall, and about 100Kg men and will easily be their girlfriend or go home with them for some nice casual sex.
Massage places that offer good massages from attractive girls for about 40rmb an hour.
Hot young pro girls, that come back to my house DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Multiple positions, for around 200rmb.
Good Sichuan food for 2 people at about 100rmb.
5-10 hours a week part-time teaching at about 200rmb an hour.
Thank You in advance for any advice brothers.
SE Asia Joe
08-06-11, 09:54
Dongguan has almost 6000 posts is it the Best place to live in China, and if not where is?
I am moving out of Shenzhen, I want find a place where the girls are excited to see a foreigner and freebies and girlfriends are easy to come by. So tell us about which place you think is best in China and why.
Anybody have any recommendations where I should move in China or should I go to the Philippines, Thailand, or maybe back to South America. Any info is much appreciated I am looking for:
Hot young non-pro girls who like and are very happy and excited to see white skinned, blue eyed. 181cm tall, and about 100Kg men and will easily be their girlfriend or go home with them for some nice casual sex.
Massage places that offer good massages from attractive girls for about 40rmb an hour.
Hot young pro girls, that come back to my house DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Multiple positions, for around 200rmb.
Good Sichuan food for 2 people at about 100rmb.
5-10 hours a week part-time teaching at about 200rmb an hour.
Thank You in advance for any advice brothers.Aren't you the Master Monger that One Wing Low is always quoting. That you know all the nooks and crannies of China?
SEAJ
I've been to several KTVs and it's mostly hits so I thought I'd take a break.
The BSD bunch went to Fu Hao and I tagged along cause I like the people partying that night. I think there were 7 guys and 12 girls. I couldn't find anyone so I went to the room empty handed. BSD and a good friend went back to the flower street and came back with two girls. My friend told me, Pick one or both will stay and be your dates! So I picked the one closest to me just to get out of that embarrassing situation. My buddy said everyone could play with my girl so I would have to work for her attention. Haha, such kidders.
In any case, she was very sweet and was a good partier. She drank with everyone and was a good sport despite the language barrier since most of the people in the party only spoke English.
Afterwards, we went back and enjoyed a night of being bf and gf. Needless to say, she was like a gf till morn.
The next day, she spent another night with me. BSD took a break and so I decided not to join a KTV party. We went to buy snacks and drinks and fruits and spent the entire night watching soap operas on TV. It was sweet and enjoyable, but she revealed that she's leaving CP the next day. She's getting her train ticket and going home to her hometown bf. They're going to spend Chinese Valentines Day together and work out the wedding details. She may not be back.
I guess I'm sort of sad, as we just met and had two wonderful nights together, but I'm happy she's leaving CP for a domestic life where she may be happier and have a chance to start her own family. For what it's worth, I wish her well.
Today is Chinese Valentine's Day. The streets are filled with guys and girls with flowers and large teddy bears. Took a walk around noon and had a pretty lonesome lunch at a HK cafe. Oh well, but went to Swan Lake to meet up with a friend who wants to take a tour of the BBSs.
Went to the BBSs and he took a girl he thought is cute. I randomly picked a girl who I thought was smiling at me and giving me the "take me home" eyes. Paid and got into the cab.
In the cab, she pinched me and asked me why I haven't called her. I was like, WTF? I looked at her and had no idea what she's talking about, so I told her that I went to find her cause I lost her contact number (I was improvising). She told me some story about being sick, blah blah blah, but the short version is, I already picked her like 8 months ago. Turns out that back then, she had long curly hair and now she has long straight hair. How the fk was I supposed to know?
So yeah, I had her before. Afterwards, she asked me to be her valentine, but I compromised and said how about just dinner? Had a little dinner and walked with her for a bit before I told her to go back to her BBS because it's Saturday and she will get much more money than spending the day with boring old me.
Valentine's day is not over yet, so perhaps something will happen before midnight. Going to go hunt now. Reports laters.
Fast Eddie 48
08-07-11, 00:45
You were in Houjie Town of Dongguan, more than 1 hour drive away from CP. The hotel that you went to is likely the "Houjie International Hotel."To Sardaukar.
Houjie is the monger capital about 10 yr ago many high end sauna cater to the rich Hongkonger and Taiwanese, there are many BBS with cute girl all over town, my favorite KTV like Cinese and the sheraton many hot girl, there are still action avalible here but not like 10 yr ago like most town in Dongguan is no where like it use to be.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
08-07-11, 04:19
Dongguan has almost 6000 posts is it the Best place to live in China, and if not where is?
I am moving out of Shenzhen, I want find a place where the girls are excited to see a foreigner and freebies and girlfriends are easy to come by. So tell us about which place you think is best in China and why.
Anybody have any recommendations where I should move in China or should I go to the Philippines, Thailand, or maybe back to South America. Any info is much appreciated I am looking for:
Hot young non-pro girls who like and are very happy and excited to see white skinned, blue eyed. 181cm tall, and about 100Kg men and will easily be their girlfriend or go home with them for some nice casual sex.
Massage places that offer good massages from attractive girls for about 40rmb an hour.
Hot young pro girls, that come back to my house DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Multiple positions, for around 200rmb.
Good Sichuan food for 2 people at about 100rmb.
5-10 hours a week part-time teaching at about 200rmb an hour.
Thank You in advance for any advice brothers.To Master,
I don't know what is the problem here all the thing you list you should find in Shenzhen very easy unless you are hopeless or blind, I think you should move out of China and don't come back don't think any city in China are right for you.
Fast Eddie 48
Sardaukar1
08-07-11, 04:53
To Sardaukar.
Houjie is the monger capital about 10 yr ago many high end sauna cater to the rich Hongkonger and Taiwanese, there are many BBS with cute girl all over town, my favorite KTV like Cinese and the sheraton many hot girl, there are still action avalible here but not like 10 yr ago like most town in Dongguan is no where like it use to be.
Fast Eddie 48Despite the decline of Houjie, the SN girls at Sheraton are among the best-looking in my books.
Master Monger
08-07-11, 05:41
But even though I live in Shenzhen I rarely make it to Dongguan or CP so I am just weighing my options. Any info or opinions would be appreciated.
SE Asia Joe
08-07-11, 06:35
Some of your items on your checklist DOES apply in CP, but best you just hop on a train to check it out yourself.
Dongguan has almost 6000 posts is it the Best place to live in China, and if not where is?
I am moving out of Shenzhen, I want find a place where the girls are excited to see a foreigner and freebies and girlfriends are easy to come by. So tell us about which place you think is best in China and why.
Anybody have any recommendations where I should move in China or should I go to the Philippines, Thailand, or maybe back to South America. Any info is much appreciated I am looking for:
Hot young non-pro girls who like and are very happy and excited to see white skinned, blue eyed. 181cm tall, and about 100Kg men and will easily be their girlfriend or go home with them for some nice casual sex.Quite a few of the new arrivals, and there's usually a lot of them all the time, ARE still enamored of at least "trying" a foreigner. But a large proportion will also have nothing to do with you guys for the usual reasons I. E. Too big, too beneath them to HAVE TO "service" foreigners, plain old bigotry etc. But this is like that in just about all parts of China.
Also, whilst getting freebies in CP is akin to shooting fish in a barrel, for the simple reason that these WG's ARE some of the loneliest gals around, IMHO its a travesty for ANYBODY to take advantage of their frailty as a girl having to work as a WG to get it free from them. They sell their bodies to make money, and anybody using whatever charm or whatever else to get it free is actually stealing from these girls.
Massage places that offer good massages from attractive girls for about 40rmb an hour.
Hot young pro girls, that come back to my house DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Multiple positions, for around 200rmb.
Good Sichuan food for 2 people at about 100rmb.
5-10 hours a week part-time teaching at about 200rmb an hour.
Thank You in advance for any advice brothers.Massages are pricier in CP than SZ.
And forget about RMB 200 an hour part time teaching. Full time teaching in CP only pays approx RMB 4000 / month, and these teachers supplement their income by teaching English for RMB 60/ hour. RMB 80 if you're really good / serious and NOT just teaching to try to get into the girl students' pants.
But why are you asking about teaching? The way OWL says it, I was under the impression that you were a Big Swinging Dick - No?
SEAJ
Facing the intense competition from Yi Hao KTV. Lately Ou Ya KTV has implemented the mobile phones of hostesses to be switched off once entering the KTV room.
Yi Hao KTV started the trend of "locking up" of hostesses' mobile phones since opening on 14th Dec 2010. More KTVs may follow suit in the future.All I can say is applause applause. Yeah. Funny though at Yihao there was a new girl that I knew from fuhao and she was freaked at the rule and the DJ rightly.
Insisted to take her phone and they put them in a clear pvc box. Very good idea. And yes it makes it much more enjoyable.
Also, whilst getting freebies in CP is akin to shooting fish in a barrel, for the simple reason that these WG's ARE some of the loneliest gals around, IMHO its a travesty for ANYBODY to take advantage of their frailty as a girl having to work as a WG to get it free from them. They sell their bodies to make money, and anybody using whatever charm or whatever else to get it free is actually stealing from these girls.
SEAJFor freebies CP definitely is not the place, you would be better to go to less traveled areas but bigger cities.
However getting freebies in CP has and is done. Suppose you have been seeing a WG for awile, and suddenly she refused money.
Simply doesn't want it. SEAJ tell me you haven't seen that? This is their way of changing the terms of the friendship. They too
See it as business when they accept the money. If you give them money and they give it back, what would you do? Think about it.
If you force the money on them you are saying you are nothing but a WG to me, if you actually like them then play it their way. You know.
If they need money they will ask you for it and all the freebies you had will just be summed later. Perhaps with a discount LOL.
I had this happen on a recent trip, the girl simply said we had dinner and a massage (and a shag but she didn't say that) why are you paying me?
So at that moment I had to decide if she was a WG or a repeater, she is the latter and later she needed some funds I was more than happy to
Help her out. Actually she didn't even as for money, she actually asked for loan, and for a very small amount. A non greedy girl in CP, must be new.
SE Asia Joe
08-07-11, 07:17
For freebies CP definitely is not the place, you would be better to go to less traveled areas but bigger cities.
However getting freebies in CP has and is done. Suppose you have been seeing a WG for awile, and suddenly she refused money.
Simply doesn't want it. SEAJ tell me you haven't seen that? This is their way of changing the terms of the friendship. They too
See it as business when they accept the money. If you give them money and they give it back, what would you do? Think about it.
If you force the money on them you are saying you are nothing but a WG to me, if you actually like them then play it their way. You know.
If they need money they will ask you for it and all the freebies you had will just be summed later. Perhaps with a discount LOL.
I had this happen on a recent trip, the girl simply said we had dinner and a massage (and a shag but she didn't say that) why are you paying me?
So at that moment I had to decide if she was a WG or a repeater, she is the latter and later she needed some funds I was more than happy to
Help her out. Actually she didn't even as for money, she actually asked for loan, and for a very small amount. A non greedy girl in CP, must be new.Oh of course I've had it happen. And not to be boasting, I've actually had it happen to me quite a few times, which reinforces what I say about it being akin to shooting fish in a barrel.
And these were the times that I reinforce my own humanity in "NOT taking it" just because its there for the takin'!
I always operate on the principle of right is right and wrong is wrong. I remind myself (AND HER) that there is NO future in our relationship and that even though we should treat each other as (and actually truly enjoy each other as) GF / BF, we both must have it at the back of our heads that such relationship is predicated on $$ changing hands. Heck, for sure that is the situation on my part, for there's no way I'm going to leave my family etc and run off with her! So yes, I gotta be honest with her.
But the key is being honest with oneself. And let me tell you, it makes my own life that much simpler and also makes it easier for me to look at myself in the mirror in the morning. And BTW. Also remember the old chestnut that there's nothing for free, and that with WG's its a matter of HOW, WHEN and HOW MUCH $$ changes hands.
Just my own druthers of course (see OAH, I didn't hafta use your "Just my POV! LOL!)
EAJ
So SEAJOE and Freepeaks,
My position is in the middle. Yes, Freepeaks has a point, sometimes the girl just refuses the money. Even when you push it on them, they get offended. On many occasions, the WG refuses to accept my money. After going out having fun, getting a footie, eating a meal, watching a movie, I proceeded to paying her and she refused my money. The more I pushed money onto her, the more offended she became that I did not treat her as a "friend" but just as a transaction. Even though I tell her that there's no future between us as I am already 60 years old and old enough to be her father, she still refuses based on her own principle. So I don't force money upon her.
However, I do feel that I should never walk away without giving anything. So I have on many occasions taken them out to buy some clothing, or even a VIP card to some massage or facial place. No. I'm not SEAJoe, I cannot afford those fancy Nokia phones. In the end, I try to be a gentleman to the sweet girls who really give you the extra attention.
But it's getting more rare to find girls who are willing to pay extra attention to you, or even give you the time of day to do things with her outside of their realm of work. Times have changed.
AsnDragon.
Oh of course I've had it happen. And not to be boasting, I've actually had it happen to me quite a few times, which reinforces what I say about it being akin to shooting fish in a barrel.
And these were the times that I reinforce my own humanity in "NOT taking it" just because its there for the takin'!
I always operate on the principle of right is right and wrong is wrong. I remind myself (AND HER) that there is NO future in our relationship and that even though we should treat each other as (and actually truly enjoy each other as) GF / BF, we both must have it at the back of our heads that such relationship is predicated on $$ changing hands. Heck, for sure that is the situation on my part, for there's no way I'm going to leave my family etc and run off with her! So yes, I got to be honest with her.
But the key is being honest with oneself. And let me tell you, it makes my own life that much simpler and also makes it easier for me to look at myself in the mirror in the morning. And BTW. Also remember the old chestnut that there's nothing for free, and that with WG's its a matter of HOW, WHEN and HOW MUCH $$ changes hands.
Just my own druthers of course (see OAH, I didn't hafta use your "Just my POV! LOL!)
EAJ
Brucetea,
First off, I have to hand it to you, even when you don't want to romance girls, you always end up falling in love with them each and every time. I think this time is better, you didn't get too deep into her.
But in my opinion, most girls who go home to their "domestic" lives back in their hometown are miserable and never are that truly happy. Once they have seen the world outside of their hometown it's always hard to go back and revert to that type of lifestyle. She left for CP to earn the big bucks so that she can provide the money to get married with her hometown BF. Usually what happens is the hometown BF is a low-life that gets use to life living off of her hard work and she then lives a pretty hard life afterwards. Pointpanic can attest to so many of his ex-regulars that got screwed over by their hometown BFs. Seajoe even warned his ex-sponsored girl to stay away from the local boys in her hometown. But I just wish and hope your girl has found a decent man back home.
In terms of your BBS girl, It's never really happened to me except once. One time I had a very bad experience with a girl. A girl who refused to let me kiss her nipples and when you looked at her face while doing it, she makes a weird face at you and keeps pushing your head away saying "you're not allowed to look!" After the first session, I promised that I would never pick her again. Then a couple of weeks later I saw a cute looking girl, and I picked her. I didn't realize it was her until she got into the room and I noticed her birthmark on her back. Apparently, she had re-did her hair and didn't put on makeup. So yes. Apparently Hair style change the look of the girl substantially.
Happy Mongering Bruce! How long you staying for this time?
AsnDragon.
I've been to several KTVs and it's mostly hits so I thought I'd take a break.
TIt was sweet and enjoyable, but she revealed that she's leaving CP the next day. She's getting her train ticket and going home to her hometown bf. They're going to spend Chinese Valentines Day together and work out the wedding details. She may not be back.
I guess I'm sort of sad, as we just met and had two wonderful nights together, but I'm happy she's leaving CP for a domestic life where she may be happier and have a chance to start her own family. For what it's worth, I wish her well.
Today is Chinese Valentine's Day. The streets are filled with guys and girls with flowers and large teddy bears. Took a walk around noon and had a pretty lonesome lunch at a HK cafe. Oh well, but went to Swan Lake to meet up with a friend who wants to take a tour of the BBSs.
Went to the BBSs and he took a girl he thought is cute. I randomly picked a girl who I thought was smiling at me and giving me the "take me home" eyes. Paid and got into the cab.
In the cab, she pinched me and asked me why I haven't called her. I was like, WTF? I looked at her and had no idea what she's talking about, so I told her that I went to find her cause I lost her contact number (I was improvising). She told me some story about being sick, blah blah blah, but the short version is, I already picked her like 8 months ago. Turns out that back then, she had long curly hair and now she has long straight hair. How the fk was I supposed to know?
So yeah, I had her before. Afterwards, she asked me to be her valentine, but I compromised and said how about just dinner? Had a little dinner and walked with her for a bit before I told her to go back to her BBS because it's Saturday and she will get much more money than spending the day with boring old me.
Valentine's day is not over yet, so perhaps something will happen before midnight. Going to go hunt now. Reports laters.
Few months back, BSD set up a party at Yihao. We were all having a good time and playing games in a group. One of BSD's rule was not to play with their cell phones. When one of the girl was looking at her cell phone BSD reprimanded her and she got Pissed! I don't know why she was pissed considering that this was Yihao's KTV policy for all girls who work there-girls are not allowed to use their cell phones. She obviously violated the company policy and she still had the audacity to be pissed the rest of the night. But the night was still pretty fun with BSD taking the lead.
Yihao is a strange combination of girls. I mean, most girls in CP jump from one place to another to work, this is expected. But for Yihao, they are pretty good at categorizing their girls. You got the shorter ones that are cheaper, then as they get taller they wear better clothes, up to the model category where they get expensive. But Yihao violates the rules of Model Group. While most places have a height requirement of 168 or 170 cm or taller policy, at Yihao it seems that anything goes. They just put whoever they feel are pretty or unique looking in the model category. I guess it's a smart move for Yihao as many guys would rather trade a girl with nicer body and or prettier face and not as tall. In fact most of the time I hardly ever hear guys say they want a really tall girl when picking a girl at a KTV. Height doesn't seem to be that big of a criteria as opposed to a pretty face, nice smile, nice body etc.
AsnDragon.
All I can say is applause applause. Yeah. Funny though at Yihao there was a new girl that I knew from fuhao and she was freaked at the rule and the DJ rightly.
Insisted to take her phone and they put them in a clear pvc box. Very good idea. And yes it makes it much more enjoyable.
Just spoke to a regular of mine who works at a KTV in Shenzhen. She told me that due to the University Games held in Shenzhen, that all the KTVs got shut down recently. Is this the same for Dongguan as well? I remember earlier in the year they had the Asia games which affected the area as well. Lots of KTV raids and crackdowns all over.
Any news?
AsnDragon
I've been to several KTVs and it's mostly hits so I thought I'd take a break.WOW, from being "rained out" to the proverbial "double header"! THE BRUCE is back!
Glad to hear that you are having a good visit, but pissed I am not there to enjoy the spoils!
Where else did you guys go party besides FuHao and Yi Hao? I am not much into the BBS scene, but given the good reports that may have to change soon! Looking forward to enjoying more of the SOP later this week! Save a few for me. With Jettsetter hitting town soon, there may not be many left "unspoiled".
Sky
Master Monger
08-07-11, 12:58
Most of my Money is in Switzerland in a tax free CD but I also day trade on the net a little, and if I didn't teach I would be bored off my ass but only a few hours a week, never over 10. In Shenzhen I make 300RMB an hour after taxes and I really enjoy it and I usually don't sleep with my students unless they just make it too easy. For example: coming to my house to learn English and taking a shower because they are too hot, a girl that bold I usually slip it in her. As far as freebies go, first I would just like to say I don't think you could find a non-pro girl in China that would say bad things about me, I am a nice, fun guy and I am usually honest to a fault. If I have a freebie or a girlfriend I follow 2 simple rules. 1: Never do anything to make her mad or upset. And 2: If I can't make them cum, then after sex I buy them a gift or take them somewhere special, but if I do make them cum, I mean of course I am a gentleman and I will pay for dinner and entertainment but I feel if they had an orgasm that we had an equal exchange and I feel no obligation to supply them with monetary renumeration. Having said that my girlfriends and lovers can ask me for any amount under 500RMB and I will give it to them without batting an eye.
I could always work online and make 150RMB an hour, how are the apartments there, and are there any brothers who might want to show me around in exchange for me treating you to dinner and a bbs girl. If so pm Me and we can talk about the details!
Happy Mongering!
SE Asia Joe
08-07-11, 13:49
Most of my Money is in Switzerland in a tax free CD but I also day trade on the net a little, and if I didn't teach I would be bored off my ass but only a few hours a week, never over 10. In Shenzhen I make 300RMB an hour after taxes and I really enjoy it and I usually don't sleep with my students unless they just make it too easy. For example: coming to my house to learn English and taking a shower because they are too hot, a girl that bold I usually slip it in her. As far as freebies go, first I would just like to say I don't think you could find a non-pro girl in China that would say bad things about me, I am a nice, fun guy and I am usually honest to a fault. If I have a freebie or a girlfriend I follow 2 simple rules. 1: Never do anything to make her mad or upset. And 2: If I can't make them cum, then after sex I buy them a gift or take them somewhere special, but if I do make them cum, I mean of course I am a gentleman and I will pay for dinner and entertainment but I feel if they had an orgasm that we had an equal exchange and I feel no obligation to supply them with monetary renumeration. Having said that my girlfriends and lovers can ask me for any amount under 500RMB and I will give it to them without batting an eye.
I could always work online and make 150RMB an hour, how are the apartments there, and are there any brothers who might want to show me around in exchange for me treating you to dinner and a bbs girl. If so pm Me and we can talk about the details!
Happy Mongering!Oh. I think I now remember who you are.
I remember you posting up a picture of yourself as somebody doubted you look like Meat loaf. Right?
And WOW. You ARE a BSD! Impressed as I know that there is a minimum US$1 miilion requirement for Private banking at Swiss banks. So I guess it really don't matter if you teach or not as the amounts. Whether 60, 200 or 300 must just be a pittance for you / as you say only to keep yourself occupied etc. So this teaching nonsense and how much it pays etc must not be a consideration.
And working online for RMB 150 / hour, perhaps you could PM me with details as I have a friend who's interested in doing just that. Thanks.
On apartments. They are considerably cheaper than SZ. And could run as low as RMB 800 a month for a one bedroom apartment w / separate bath etc. But I guess you must be looking for a bit nicer, right? A Nice 2 or 3 bedroom apartment in an OK area runs about RMB 2, 200 to 3, 000 / month.
But I got to take you to task for your what you say about your "Liaisons." Bro, WHEN have ANY females ever been 100% trouble free and all pliant as you say. Come on Bro! LOL!
Just Kiding guy, just kidding!
SEAJ
PorscheDriver
08-07-11, 14:01
Just spoke to a regular of mine who works at a KTV in Shenzhen. She told me that due to the University Games held in Shenzhen, that all the KTVs got shut down recently. Is this the same for Dongguan as well? I remember earlier in the year they had the Asia games which affected the area as well. Lots of KTV raids and crackdowns all over.
Any news?
AsnDragonYes, I was in Tangxia last week, stayed at the Metropolitan and the KTV was closed for 'renovation' until end of August. Heard that Goodview and others are also closed til end of this month
PorscheDriver,
Sorry to hear about Tangxia. I hope that at leas the saunas are still open for your pleasure. For some reason, Tangxia yields to crackdowns a whole lot more than CP does. I think Tangxia's officials are not as deeply rooted in the government as CP is. Even as there are crackdowns in Tangxia, I bet you that CP is doing just fine- perhaps some minor changes in uniforms etc, but all in all CP always ends up running strong.
I don't see how games in Shenzhen has anything to do with Dongguan at all. It's not even easily accessible to get to most of Dongguan without a car, which none of the foreign media or participants can or knows how to get to these places.
Hope it doesn't spoil the fun for everyone else.
AsnDragon.
Yes, I was in Tangxia last week, stayed at the Metropolitan and the KTV was closed for 'renovation' until end of August. Heard that Goodview and others are also closed til end of this month
PorscheDriver
08-07-11, 18:52
PorscheDriver,
Sorry to hear about Tangxia. I hope that at leas the saunas are still open for your pleasure. For some reason, Tangxia yields to crackdowns a whole lot more than CP does. I think Tangxia's officials are not as deeply rooted in the government as CP is. Even as there are crackdowns in Tangxia, I bet you that CP is doing just fine- perhaps some minor changes in uniforms etc, but all in all CP always ends up running strong.
I don't see how games in Shenzhen has anything to do with Dongguan at all. It's not even easily accessible to get to most of Dongguan without a car, which none of the foreign media or participants can or knows how to get to these places.
Hope it doesn't spoil the fun for everyone else.
AsnDragon.AsnDragon,
Even the saunas are closed; was there on business and the locals have told me that they even arrested a guy just being in a KTV. Don't know which one it was but understand that the whole town is locked down until the end of the games in Shenzhen.
Tangxia is in process of building two new hotels closed to the industrial park right of the expressway; one is supposed to be a 6 star, the other a 5 star hotel, both will have KTV's. One is already under construction and visible when you come from Shenzhen in to Tangxia. Don't know when they will open but suspect that they will be good competition to the Goodview.
Master Monger
08-07-11, 21:26
Well I took out a 10 year CD at about 4% interest but this was about 7 years ago in the Union Bank of Switzerland, and I think the minimum was only $100, 000USD, I deposited more than that but less than a million. Plus, even though I like to live a 4 star lifestyle, I am very frugal and don't like to waste money. Also if teaching can supplement my living costs then I don't need to touch my money and that feels good, although it never seems to cover my total nut so I usually take out about $5000 a year from savings. Anyway about apartments are there any nice apartment buildings close to the home delivery BBS's, I prefer the younger less talented girls from the BBS's rather than the hardened older better service girls from the escort places. Plus I feel safer picking up the girl myself from the BBS or building a relationship with one of the mommies from the BBS's for home delivery. As far as women go I have had a few problems but if you follow rule 1: Don't do anything to make them mad or upset; than even when they want to fight with you when it is time to break up, they have no ammunition. Some people say I look like Jack Black or Meatloaf just because they think all fat guys look alike. But anyway Joe thanks for the info and hopefully we can meet sometime. About the 150RMB online job you must be a teacher with them teaching corporate training or in their schools and then you can teach in the online department. Both Wall Street and METEN offer this opportunity. Does Dongguan have either of these schools? Let me know. Oh yeah the BBS areas, are they larger than Sandy Lip or Hu Bei Xing Cun in Shenzhen? Both of those places have over 30-40 pink light shops, with about 4-5 girls in each. Also I heard about part timers from the streets like it used to be on the street in front of Seibu. Thanks in advance for the info.
SE Asia Joe
08-08-11, 05:17
Well I took out a 10 year CD at about 4% interest but this was about 7 years ago in the Union Bank of Switzerland, and I think the minimum was only $100, 000USD, I deposited more than that but less than a million. Plus, even though I like to live a 4 star lifestyle, I am very frugal and don't like to waste money. Also if teaching can supplement my living costs then I don't need to touch my money and that feels good, although it never seems to cover my total nut so I usually take out about $5000 a year from savings. Anyway about apartments are there any nice apartment buildings close to the home delivery BBS's, I prefer the younger less talented girls from the BBS's rather than the hardened older better service girls from the escort places. Plus I feel safer picking up the girl myself from the BBS or building a relationship with one of the mommies from the BBS's for home delivery. As far as women go I have had a few problems but if you follow rule 1: Don't do anything to make them mad or upset; than even when they want to fight with you when it is time to break up, they have no ammunition. Some people say I look like Jack Black or Meatloaf just because they think all fat guys look alike. But anyway Joe thanks for the info and hopefully we can meet sometime. About the 150RMB online job you must be a teacher with them teaching corporate training or in their schools and then you can teach in the online department. Both Wall Street and METEN offer this opportunity. Does Dongguan have either of these schools? Let me know. Oh yeah the BBS areas, are they larger than Sandy Lip or Hu Bei Xing Cun in Shenzhen? Both of those places have over 30-40 pink light shops, with about 4-5 girls in each. Also I heard about part timers from the streets like it used to be on the street in front of Seibu. Thanks in advance for the info.Oh OK. If you're only taking out US$5k a year from your savings then I guess you DO need the job, because things ARE getting more and more expensive in China these days.
And unfortunately more so in Chang Ping as it seems to be the only place around here that is still at least "in action," albeit nothing like even just a year or so ago.
On apartments. Yes, there are nicer apartments (circa RMB 2, 200. 3,000 for a 2 or 3 bedrooms) on Zhong Yuan street which is the main hotel drag; which is of course close to the Hui Mei hotel alley where there is still a couple or so BBS's at RMB 200 take out ST. A far cry from when there was 6 or so.
On BBS's. Yes there are more on Swan Lake road. But again, not as many or staffed by as many gals as in years past. But I'm sure you're going to be OK with what's still available. At least as of this writing for you know that things change rapidly in China.
Like I said, you should just come up and see for yourself. I'm sure that you can afford the RMB 45 train fare and the half hour to get up here!
And sorry, I have no idea as far as schools in CP is concerned. But I see a few English schools in the Alley next to the GOME mall. Which is also close to Zhong Yaun Street. You check them out yourself when you make it up.
And you're fat? I thought you said you were only 100 KG? Hmmm. I guess you ARE fat in China! LOL!
SEAJ
Porschedriver,
From my sources, one of the hotels being built near the freeway is across the street from Sangem Apartment village. It's pretty close, about one block, from the township government building. That Hotel is actually being managed by the owner of Huihua and Huimei owner. Apparently, the owner does not have the expertise in managing KTV's so they outsourced that expertise to the owner of Huihua and Huimei.
As for the 6 star hotel, I don't know which location that is located at. But Tangxia is growing a lot bigger than it was when I first went there in 2002. Much has changed, but then again much as changed in all of Dongguan cities.
But I think if you go to other Hotels in Tangxia their saunas are still open. Try Golden Island, as they seem to have a lot more power within the government to stay open. They may be a bit covert in their operation, but I'm sure they are all still open, just a little off the radar for the moment.
Has anyone heard of how Chang An town is doing? Any news? Any shutdowns?
AsnDragon.
AsnDragon,
Even the saunas are closed; was there on business and the locals have told me that they even arrested a guy just being in a KTV. Don't know which one it was but understand that the whole town is locked down until the end of the games in Shenzhen.
Tangxia is in process of building two new hotels closed to the industrial park right of the expressway; one is supposed to be a 6 star, the other a 5 star hotel, both will have KTV's. One is already under construction and visible when you come from Shenzhen in to Tangxia. Don't know when they will open but suspect that they will be good competition to the Goodview.
PorscheDriver
08-09-11, 00:21
Porschedriver,
From my sources, one of the hotels being built near the freeway is across the street from Sangem Apartment village. It's pretty close, about one block, from the township government building. That Hotel is actually being managed by the owner of Huihua and Huimei owner. Apparently, the owner does not have the expertise in managing KTV's so they outsourced that expertise to the owner of Huihua and Huimei.
As for the 6 star hotel, I don't know which location that is located at. But Tangxia is growing a lot bigger than it was when I first went there in 2002. Much has changed, but then again much as changed in all of Dongguan cities.
But I think if you go to other Hotels in Tangxia their saunas are still open. Try Golden Island, as they seem to have a lot more power within the government to stay open. They may be a bit covert in their operation, but I'm sure they are all still open, just a little off the radar for the moment.
Has anyone heard of how Chang An town is doing? Any news? Any shutdowns?
AsnDragon.AsnDragon,
The 6 star hotel is supposed to be build in close vicinity to the new regional hospital; it is a little ways out of town in the midst of a new industrial park opened about 3 years ago. I'm not sure about the saunas in all hotels, but was told that, besides the Metropolitan, Goodview's was also closed.
I've been coming since 2006 and agree, Tangxia is growing and prices in local KTV's have risen just like everywhere else in Dongguan. I have no knowledge of the situation in CA.
Sardaukar1
08-09-11, 05:30
Has anyone heard of how Chang An town is doing? Any news? Any shutdowns?CA is dead.
SE Asia Joe
08-09-11, 10:51
CA is dead.Just a reminder.
Could NOT be as dead as the other CA.
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California.
LOL.
SEAJ
hey all,
i'll be going to mayflower next week with a bunch of friends. the last time i went there was 1 year 8 months ago. i heard it went through some changes due to a drug raid on it last time. so my question is:
1. what has changed? is it still the same, but less rooms?
2. are the prices still the same at 2/5/8 or increased?
also, during the afternoon my peeps will also want to go for either a massage or spa. they will be splitting themselves into two groups, one group going for a massage, one group going to a spa. i don't know which to choose. any advice on the above, especially taking into consideration that at night we'll be at mayflower?
Just a reminder.
Could NOT be as dead as the other CA.
California.
LOL.
SEAJYou just need to know where to look for them. In Los Angeles, I could name you a few places. You got SW, you got KTVs, you got Bars, you got the MPs, and you got the houses.
hey all,
i'll be going to mayflower next week with a bunch of friends. the last time i went there was 1 year 8 months ago. i heard it went through some changes due to a drug raid on it last time. so my question is:
1. what has changed? is it still the same, but less rooms?
2. are the prices still the same at 2/5/8 or increased?
also, during the afternoon my peeps will also want to go for either a massage or spa. they will be splitting themselves into two groups, one group going for a massage, one group going to a spa. i don't know which to choose. any advice on the above, especially taking into consideration that at night we'll be at mayflower?nevermind about the spa / massage. i found out what the difference is already.
but please advise on point 1 and 2. thank you!
Fast Eddie 48
08-09-11, 21:25
Just a reminder.
Could NOT be as dead as the other CA.
California.
LOL.
SEAJSEAJ,
Mr uncle SEAJ California is not dead still get my fair share of freebie here, just not as young and tight like the P4P in CA or CP Dongguan be back in China next week.
Fast Eddie 48
Just a reminder.
Could NOT be as dead as the other CA.
California.
LOL.
SEAJThe other CA is not dead but rather alive and kicking. The only problem is that it is too close to home. I just prefer not to be playing too close to home. I prefer to shit farther away.
Just my POV
SE Asia Joe
08-10-11, 10:01
SEAJ,
Mr uncle SEAJ California is not dead still get my fair share of freebie here, just not as young and tight like the P4P in CA or CP Dongguan be back in China next week.
Fast Eddie 48Freebies huh?
So, how's Mrs. Fast Eddie these days?
LOL.
SEAJ
SE Asia Joe
08-10-11, 10:04
The other CA is not dead but rather alive and kicking. The only problem is that it is too close to home. I just prefer not to be playing too close to home. I prefer to shit farther away.
Just my POVThe ONLY problem?
Err, how about things like price, quality, crack-head providers, and of course the LaLaPaLooza of 'them all. LE stings?
LOL.
SEAJ
Jettsetter
08-11-11, 03:11
There's no shortage of shorties in these parts. While many can debate as to the quality of the various places, pricing, etc. The establishments are very much thriving. I don't know how good "business" is. But I'm sure there is the appropriate dessert to appease anybody's appetite. I'm sure our German friend would agree after a great recommendation from BSD.
In terms of moving around down here, though, I do have to say that if you want to go anywhere in the SZ area, make sure you bring your passport and plenty of patience. Due to the athletic event bringing in all the colleges / universities from China to compete, SZ has been on lockdown. You need a passport just to purchase a ticket to SZ, let alone get on the train. From the looks of things, these next two weeks will be pretty hellish getting around, so don't carry any contraband of any kind for risk of some strict penalties.
Point is. If you can avoid SZ, do it. Of course for the vans going through HK, allow yourself additional time to cross the border both ways. Tehre are specific lanes of traffic for "games" business. Can you believe it. The fast late for most roads have been converted to "official business" lanes. Risk of some kind of hefty fine per offense. That's what our driver said on the way in.
Luggage at the Huanggang border is mostly checked via vehicles, so the Shenzhen way entry point is probably better via HK van. (at least that's what I was told).
Anyways. Play is still okay. I was concerned by some of the posts, but I assure you that there is fun to be had. The quality. Well I was happy on my first night. Whether it keeps up, I don't know. But only time will tell. The hunt is the best part, right?
Luckily the heat died down a little bit here because of the rain, so I'm hoping that it stays a little cooler than the record heats the past week (again so I was told).
Looking forward to the upcoming adventures. Just remember. Pace yourself and drink plenty of fluids.
-Jett
so the other day we went with the homies to yi hao. yeah, many reports have been made of this place, but it was my first time there so thought i'd share my thoughts.
typical ktv. nice rooms, wide halls, and friendly staff. dunno, but it was typical all around.
girls were lineup style. heard otherwise, but during these few days (or weeks) , i'd imagine it'll be this way. thus, pick when you see something, otherwise, you may get stuck. and i thought we went early, but i think i only saw a moderate amount of girls. not much to write about.
i had a friend pick my girl and she stayed with me throughout the night. first hour, we played games and drank. then, i went to the bathroom to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). while pissing, something hit me. i could've sworn i did the girl before! one, her name was the same. two, her body type is the same. three, her behavior of peeling fruit and nuts for me was the same. four, her face, skin tone was similar. the only reason i didn't recognize her was because 2 years ago, she had long hair. now, this girl had shoulder lenghth hair. i could swear they were one and the same. i deleted the number two years ago, cause she wasn't good in bed, but chances are she could've changed numbers or whatever. all this went on during my pissing and i freaked out. i mean, if i get one more repeat without knowing it, i would quit picking brucetea girls and start picking big tittie girls. i fkin give up.
well, my buddies asked her if she worked at the place i picked her before and she said she never worked there. so that's a relief.
but i do remember the tits on the previous girl and so to prove without a doubt whether she was the same or not, i had to take her home and see for myself. it's the only way. so after all my procrastination, she was not the same as the one i've had 2 years ago. lol.
oh, for the rest of the group, all did well and had a blastin time. the girls were surprisingly fun and cheery in the room. no cell phones, no running out of the room for whatever reasons, no uninvited visits from their "sisters". kinda controlled, but it was overall a good first impression for me.
I was able to catch up with Jetsetter (after his return from sex prison) and Bruce Tea for last night's fun at Yi Hao. We were joined by a FNG from Germany. He brought along a girl that DBD had arranged for him earlier in the afternoon and was "fully engaged" the whole evening. Thought we might have to throw a blanket over the two of them for a while. LOL.
It was a chill party and quite a good evening. I sat 2 girls, both fun girls and then one asked me to sit her friend as well. I did and it was a good idea, the friend turned out to be the best of all. Played a few games, danced around a little and managed a single duet with Jetsetter of Lionel Richie's "Truly". It was "truly" momentous occasion to be sure.
Wound up turning the single girl loose, expect she would have a been a good toss, but not much "feel good vibe". The two friends were problematic, and in the end, I chose to go home alone. The friend I am sure would have been fun, but she kept trying to steer me to original sitter. I suspect she didn't want to "impose" on her friends' catch. The original wasn't into kissing and while really cute, I got the sense she was of "starfish" material and I wasn't interested in that particular seafood last night. I knew the "good friend" was full on potential, but she kept pushing a three way and I wasn't buying. I decided I had enough fire water for the evening and just sit them both on the way with the sitting fee. Funny things was they both stayed about an hour after I paid the fee. Maybe in the hope of changing my mind. I also talked to a cute Mommy that may be interesting, will do some additional research at a later time on that one!
Another good night of fishing in the SOP, caught a few great ones but decided to throw them back for later opportunities to "catch and release".
I like the no cell phones policy for the girls, and also enjoy the current line up as opposed to flower street. That is just me.
Jettsetter
08-13-11, 01:22
We did a party at FH last night. I have to say, as much as some say the quality has gone down. The partying is still fun and it doesn't break the bank like some other places do. The attitude of some girls there are still stellar, but some are right that quality is not just what it used to be. Tehre were still a bevy of beauties running around. Good seeing some familiar faces. BT / Sky / AsnDragon / JustSeven. Good times.
I rate a KTV. Not just on how hot the girls are but how fun the girls are in the room. We had a good share of fun girls.
I do admit that we had our fair share of drama with pretty much most guys going home empty handed (but honestly some guys left without someone by choice. Not for a lack of talent). Also about half the group got in late.
My only point being that. Things are still fun, good and girls are still available. You might have to look harder than before, but honestly I think that this "less talent stuff" is more about the fact that we are jaded from our years of experience. Ask a newbie, they probably don't have the same impression because our SOP range finder is so fine tuned now that we are very specific about what we like and don't like. It's very similar to the allegory of the cave. We now have our eyes open to the real CP and it doens't look as good as it used to be. We are always nostalgic about hte good old days, but honestly, I think it's because we are so used to the scene and talent that it's really US that's changed and evolved, not the streaming SOP that repopulates to the average age of 20/21?
Anyways, my optimistic attitude. You'll find your gal. Keep looking. Have fun. The hunt is the best part. You know you're getting old when all we do is gripe about stuff. I do admit though, the new pricing structure with the declining dollars does suck monkey balls. But we were getting a total bargain before. We're just paying more the proper value. Just have to pace our activities or make more money!
On a final note:
I do have to give props to "JustSeven aka Ritzfactor". I think that's his handle. He had a once in a life time experience (well maybe not once- but invaluable learning experience yesterday). I won't expand more as it is something he has to say if he wants it publicized. But he deserves props. We've got a few more nicknames for our buddy. I won' t say anything. But props again dude.
-Jett
I was able to catch up with Jetsetter (after his return from sex prison) and Bruce Tea for last night's fun at Yi Hao. We were joined by a FNG from Germany. He brought along a girl that DBD had arranged for him earlier in the afternoon and was "fully engaged" the whole evening. Thought we might have to throw a blanket over the two of them for a while. LOL.Sky my friend. Just back in Germany for one day and already have tears in my eyes, when thinking about the night and of course the girl.
It was a memorable evening for me, because of you guys. My special thanks for this goes to you, Bruce Tea and Jettsetter. Have more fun in CP!
Beside this I have to thank especially BSD. His service is highly recommendable, particular for a newbie like me.
Alone I have nether find the places we visited during the week. He was around me nearly all the time and whenever I had a question or a problem, he was able to help and all that for a more than reasonable amount!
My thanks also to SE Asia Joe, Rex and the friends from Singapure and Malaysia for the nice chats during day- and nighttime.
All in all I can say, it was a great time and I am looking forward to see you all again in the first week of December on my next journey to CP!
Greetings from Konsul
Just Seven
08-14-11, 00:52
Thanks Jett and the other guys from the pre game lunch. Thats all I have to say about that in the open.
Its good to be back in China. Its better to be back in CP.
I didn't get a chance to see the lineup at FuHao but still had fun with the girls in the room by the time I got there.
Went to eat street food with some of the guys after FH (I still owe a friend 20rmb for a bet I lost on his girls performance. OUCH). Thanks Sky and BruceTea for winging me on those two girls, I will definitely let you know what develops from them! Was nice to see Bruce and Sky in action working their magic on the locals. Everyone has their own style and its nice to see what works for others!
Night Market is alive and well, picked up a tall hunan beauty there. Normally I have to take the first girl that's willing in order to get the girl I actually want (scared of white boys!) But that didn't happen this time as three girls were fighting over me!
Went to Mayflower, still a HUGE SOP there. With MANY MANY SYT I would gladly take home. Sadly. I saw Mosquito and that was the end of that. Hard to pass up a known service (huge tits, amazing ass, incredible BBBJ, great room presence, already knows all your preferences) for an unknown. I did look for anything that might have swayed me away from her but did not see anything.
Had a great time in the room, was fun getting a new friend to play with his girls (3 girls hands down his pants and his hands up two of their skirts). I really want to know how that turned out for him!
With all that said. There is no way this could possibly be my real life. And this post didn't even mention Fanny until ... NOW!
Was talking to AsnDragon about the teeth sitution most girls in China have. They grow up eating poor diets and don't brush regularly. In turn, they have bad teeth. Maybe buck teeth in front, a second row, and molars forming a third row. Some look like a grenade exploded in their mouth. Dunno, but the deformity is one thing, the yellowness is another, but perhaps the stink is something that may really turn guys off.
Ok, one incident is in a KTV. Gal was hot and a model. Great thin figure. Talked to her (wanted to give her room number) , but her teeth was monsterous and her breath was like a rotten egg. Told her a wrong room number but decided it was a cruel joke, so grabbed her again and told her I got her for a friend, but he changed his mind. Still super hot if never she opens her mouth.
Another incident is a super-fly petite gal who looks so sexy that I tried to pawn off to AsnDragon but he had girls lined up and couldn't schedule her until the next day. So I had to give her a whirl to see what's under that sexy package. Again, nicely built into a slender body but her teeth was again messed up. Got into room and she wanted to undress in front of me. Sexy sexy with thong and push up bra. Got naked showered and played. Snatch had bare minimum hair and very cute pussy lips. Played till she was wet and capped and began the deed. Very willing DFK, but her breath, man, it was toxic. Great tongue action, but tongues don't stink right? Damn, wanted Listerine bad afterwards. Oh well, was a trooper as she took many positions and enjoyed sex quite a bit.
Afterwards, she asked why I didn't ask her to blow me. I was like, huh? Turns out she used to be a Sauna girl and she loves to blow. I was like, damn, I missed a potentially rockin BJ? Dammit, I suck! I was way too limp to start it up again, so I got her number and going to try her BJ out soon. But a BJ would be great since her stink mouth and messed up teeth would be sucking me and not near my eyes and nose, so that may be a continuation of this report.
China brush oil or Suifan Kwang Tze solution. Purported to make men last longer.
It sounds like the kind of thing you could buy in a Chinese pharmacist. Anyone know of stockists in Dongguan?
Was talking to AsnDragon about the teeth situation most girls in China have. They grow up eating poor diets and don't brush regularly. In turn, they have bad teeth. Maybe buck teeth in front, a second row, and molars forming a third row. Some look like a grenade exploded in their mouth. Dunno, but the deformity is one thing, the yellowness is another, but perhaps the stink is something that may really turn guys off.The girls developed bad teeth and bad breath with too many BJ. The worst the teeth and breath, you know she's a pro at BJ's. Just a stupid joke.
Well I took out a 10 year CD at about 4% interest but this was about 7 years ago in the Union Bank of Switzerland, and I think the minimum was only $100, 000USD, I deposited more than that but less than a million. Plus, even though I like to live a 4 star lifestyle, I am very frugal and don't like to waste money. Also if teaching can supplement my living costs then I don't need to touch my money and that feels good, although it never seems to cover my total nut so I usually take out about $5000 a year from savings. Anyway about apartments are there any nice apartment buildings close to the home delivery BBS's, I prefer the younger less talented girls from the BBS's rather than the hardened older better service girls from the escort places. Plus I feel safer picking up the girl myself from the BBS or building a relationship with one of the mommies from the BBS's for home delivery. As far as women go I have had a few problems but if you follow rule 1: Don't do anything to make them mad or upset; than even when they want to fight with you when it is time to break up, they have no ammunition. Some people say I look like Jack Black or Meatloaf just because they think all fat guys look alike. But anyway Joe thanks for the info and hopefully we can meet sometime. About the 150RMB online job you must be a teacher with them teaching corporate training or in their schools and then you can teach in the online department. Both Wall Street and METEN offer this opportunity. Does Dongguan have either of these schools? Let me know. Oh yeah the BBS areas, are they larger than Sandy Lip or Hu Bei Xing Cun in Shenzhen? Both of those places have over 30-40 pink light shops, with about 4-5 girls in each. Also I heard about part timers from the streets like it used to be on the street in front of Seibu. Thanks in advance for the info.I do the same thing, great life, tried some teaching but got bored with it, the income was far too low compared to my active investments. I think the eye candy was the main reason but it cut out my ability to be spontaneous, I heard the wages for teaching were quite low in Dongguan. I also noticed the non pro girls were not as friendly or as good looking in Donggaun mainly farm girls, as Shenzhen. I live away from the main expat areas they are still nice to me, but did get better service from the pro girls, Change is as good as a rest they say. Had no problems with the place normal Chinese city. BBS was hard to find as I had not planned to go but all the info is on the reports the hotel computer was just too slow. But I left a very happy chap.
Talking about bad breath. I just had had a horrible session with a girl who's got breath from hell! My usual trick is to ask them to at least chew some gum so that during the session it can mask the horrible smell. But even after I gave her the gum to chew, I can still smell the rotten, horrendous smell mixed with some peppermint from her breath. It was so hard to concentrate on the real deal that I just could not do her for as long as I wanted to. She was a BBS girl, who was just so cute, cute like a doll. But I have to agree with Bruce Tea, There's something about either their diet or just not wanting to brush their teeth that leads to this. Bruce says it's the food stuck inbetween the teeth, but I'm beginning to think it's something internal, like something from her stomach or something. I think I'm going to get some listerine and require that they gargle that before the session now. Just now I had such a battle trying to finish up with my session. I thought stinky poo was bad. I think bad breath is a near second on the list.
AsnDragon.
The girls developed bad teeth and bad breath with too many BJ. The worst the teeth and breath, you know she's a pro at BJ's. Just a stupid joke.
Member #4698
08-15-11, 13:30
Cronic bad breath is usually a sign of Gingivitus.
"Gingivitis is inflammation of the gums (gingiva).
CausesGingivitis is a form of periodontal disease. Periodontal disease involves inflammation and infection that destroys the tissues that support the teeth, including the gums, the periodontal ligaments, and the tooth sockets (alveolar bone).
Gingivitis is due to the long-term effects of plaque deposits. Plaque is a sticky material made of bacteria, mucus, and food debris that develops on the exposed parts of the teeth. It is a major cause of tooth decay. If you do not remove plaque, it turns into a hard deposit called tartar that becomes trapped at the base of the tooth. Plaque and tartar irritate and inflame the gums. Bacteria and the toxins they produce cause the gums to become infected, swollen, and tender.
Injury to the gums from any cause, including overly vigorous brushing or flossing of the teeth, can cause gingivitis.
The following raise your risk for developing gingivitis:
•General illness.
•Poor dental hygiene.
•Pregnancy (hormonal changes increase the sensitivity of the gums)
•Uncontrolled diabetes.
Misaligned teeth, rough edges of fillings, and ill-fitting or unclean mouth appliances (such as braces, dentures, bridges, and crowns) can irritate the gums and increase the risk of gingivitis.
Medications such as phenytoin and birth control pills, and heavy metals such as lead and bismuth are also associated with gingivitis.
Many people have gingivitis to a varying degree. It usually develops during puberty or early adulthood due to hormonal changes and may persist or recur frequently, depending on the health of your teeth and gums.
Symptoms.
•Bleeding gums (blood on toothbrush even with gentle brushing of the teeth)
•Bright red or red-purple appearance to gums.
•Gums that are tender when touched, but otherwise painless.
•Mouth sores.
•Swollen gums.
•Shiny appearance to gums"
Bleeding gums can be a problem for us. BBBJ's plus bleeding gums plus hiv equals possible transmission of infection. My number one rule is if it stinks, I pass. And that goes for bad breath or smelly pussy. Trust you instincts.
It was good meeting BSD, Jett, JustSeven, and others in CP!
I was up at CP on Wednesday, reached there pretty late but met with them for some regular massage and chit chat. They are pretty fun and nice guys, so next time when I get the time to swing by I'll definitely want to hang out with them. This time I'm up with some other guys so we had other plans laid in store.
First night, after we all arrived in CP, my guys and I went to 18. There, one of the mamasans from MF booked us a table at 18 and brought all her leftover girls to hang out with us. I have to say, they were pretty hot. However, on Thursday when we went back to MF, at around 630 in flower street, all the girls belonging to the mamasan are, how do you say it: not that hot. We were all wondering what happened? My guess was there was a huge spike in demand on Thursday compared to Wed!
Anyways on Wed one of my buddies called for MacDelivery and had some girls go with us to 18. One of them just started at CP and is pretty new to this, I just love the girl next door types. Her body was hot, although her boobs are not big. Face very innocent and no make up, but still decently pretty. The funny (and perhaps screwed up thing) was that she has no mami, but her friends wanted a cut from her share for bringing her out to hang with us, if we decided to bring her home. Instead of paying her in the morning, we had to put that off and pay her friend the next day instead.
So anyways on Thursday at MF, we realized one thing is that the girls there at flower street, compared to 2 years ago, quality has dropped. Either that or we came real late and had the leftovers, although there are still some pretty ones, maybe the hot ones went to Yihao? Anyways, I spotted two very attractive and cute girls standing beside each other. I called them to our room and promptly kicked out the others that I initially selected. I also brought the two home. They are twins.
Enuff' said. I just crossed three to-do's off my bucket list. 1. Double Concubines. 2. Sisters, and 3. Twins. And I have to say tt it's a totally different experience tt I have initially expected, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE TWINS. I am greatly satisfied. *grins*
MF is still 2/5/8, at least that's mine was.
MF is still 2/5/8, at least that's mine was.Some are 3/6/9 without anything to distinguish the "upgrade". I got stuck with a gal who told me that after I sat her for a few hours. Kinda like a 'what's up with that' reaction, but lesson learned. ASK all your questions in the flower street! Hard to do but ask ask ask. That way there are no hidden surprises.
I've had my share of 'where'd that come from? '
Sardaukar1
08-20-11, 07:22
Some are 3/6/9 without anything to distinguish the "upgrade". I got stuck with a gal who told me that after I sat her for a few hours. Kinda like a 'what's up with that' reaction, but lesson learned. ASK all your questions in the flower street! Hard to do but ask ask ask. That way there are no hidden surprises.What's so hard about asking all questions in the flower street? I'm often perplexed why guys just don't do that. I know for a fact that KTV girls LOVE to prey on this kind of guys who are too shy to ask all the right questions, because later on that night the girls can just make up some bs excuse and slip away with the sitting fee. When the guy confronts the girl, she would just say "well, you didn't ask, so I didn't tell." As simple as that.
Anyone know the situation in CP? I heard a lot of people got arrested, not sure the reason.
Is it safe?
Anyone know the situation in CP? I heard a lot of people got arrested, not sure the reason.
Is it safe?Where did you get your source? How reliable is the information or is it hearsay?
Sardaukar1
08-21-11, 07:38
Where did you get your source? How reliable is the information or is it hearsay?This information is reliable. I have also confirmed sources that tell me people have been arrested all across Guangdong. Tread carefully.
OldAsiaHand
08-21-11, 07:56
What's so hard about asking all questions in the flower street? I'm often perplexed why guys just don't do that. I know for a fact that KTV girls LOVE to prey on this kind of guys who are too shy to ask all the right questions, because later on that night the girls can just make up some bs excuse and slip away with the sitting fee. When the guy confronts the girl, she would just say "well, you didn't ask, so I didn't tell." As simple as that.I also wonder why guys don't ask questions in mongering situations. Are they shy? Are they trying to make the transaction less commercial? Is it taboo to talk about these things? Is it less "romantic"? Is it an adventure? What is the thinking?
For example, a guy walks in to a BBS, MP or Sauna and is afraid to ask what services are available for what prices. He takes the massage and hopes for the best. Later he finds out that it is a legit place, the girl quotes 500RMB for a HJ, only does CBJ, etc.
Or, a monger spends all night in a KTV with a girl and finds out that she does not go out with customers or does not do laowais.
At the end of the day, not asking questions, often results in disppointment.
Just my POV.
OAH
SE Asia Joe
08-21-11, 11:20
Every once a while I get Pm'the or phoned by guys wanting information on travel to / from Chang Ping, Dongguan, Guangzhou and Hong Kong.
Not that I am any expert on this, but I do travel this corridor quite a bit and thus would like to now just re-cap such information for posterity. And of course for me to just refer whoever asks, to go to this post.
First – travel to / from Hung Hom train station in Hong Kong where most travels to CP start / end at;
Taxis in Hong Kong are always good and reasonably cheap, and the MTR does take you to HungHom. But to save a bit of $$ AND more importantly, a bit of time I suggest that you travel by bus to and from the Hung Hom train station, as buses in Hong Kong have special lanes etc to make travel to / from Hung Hom FAST! From any points in Hong Kong, just look for ANY buses with 3 numbers as a route with the number '1' as the first digit. All of these buses are cross harbor tunnel buses and the FIRST stop after you exit the tunnel (if from Hong Kong side) or the LAST one before entering the tunnel (You'll see the tunnel coming up if you're from Kowloon) is where the Hung Hom train station is at. Go up on the overhead walk-way towards the station and if you're going to go on the MTR to Lowu (Luohu) , just enter on the same level but if you're going to go on the Direct Train to CP / Guangzhou, go up one level to the main concourse to buy your ticket.
If you're coming from Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Airport, there is also a bus #A21 that for HK$33 will take you to Hung Hom directly.
OK, next I'll outline travel on the various modes between Hong Kong and Chang Ping:
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Travel on the Direct train to / from CP –
Travel time station to station – not more than 75 minutes, HK$145 or RMB 120.
PROS – VERY comfortable as you're on the train the whole time, ; you can surf the web (paid WIFI) even 'Dine' on board (BTW, the Chinese trains have pretty good food sets.) , Immigration / custom is a breeze on both ends (TIP – Do like what most frequent travelers on these trains do – be the first to rush out of the train as soon as the doors open – save you LOTS of time!). These trains are usually quite empty and thus you usually can 'stretch out. '
I've also 'met' a few gals on the way out or back into China – as somehow chatting on a train just seems natural!
CONS – Sort of infrequent schedule and when you may want to go on this direct train, there may NOT be one for a while – Check out the schedule on http://www.it3.mtr.com.hk/B2C/frmScheduleGuangdong.asp?strLang=Eng
Sometimes – especially week-ends, you may NOT be able to buy a ticket on the next train – to avoid getting there and being disappointed, you can either pre-book on the internet (HK$6 service charge) OR go to 42 MTR station with an eInstant Bonus terminals. Locations and instructions etc on http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/getting_around/eib.html.
In CP, you can buy your ticket at the Hui Mei Hotel Lobby for the regular price or else just go to your hotel concierge and they'll get you your ticket for a small handling fee I. E. Approx RMB5. You can also phone them for more info (852) 2947 7888.
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Travel on the MTR to / from Lowu, cross the Lowu border, take the CRH train to CP.
Optimum travel times and fares: Hunghom – Lowu 43 minutes and HK$31. 80, crossing the 2 borders – 20 minutes, Lowu – to CP: RMB 45 (RMB 50 1st class) .27 minutes.
PROS: You can go by this method anytime prior to the Lowu border closing at Midnight / don't have to wait for their schedule as the MTR is every 5 – 10 minutes. Thus if you leave / will need to arrive CP later, this is the only feasible method.
CONS: Since they initiated that law that one must show identification to buy a CRH ticket, the wait lines at the Lowu station can be horrendous; I've lined up in the sweltering heat for as long as 45 minutes just to get to the ticket counter. Tickets CP – Lowu is not bad anytime and will usually entail a short line if any. The immigration lines can also be pretty bad and thus I'the suggest most travelers to go this route only if its not peak travel times I. E. 4- 8 pm on week days and there's no other choice.
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Travel by direct bus to / from CP.
From CP, you go to the Hui Mei Hotel lobby to get your ticket / board the bus – RMB 70 to Hong Kong side, RMB 60 Kowloon side. From Hong Kong side, from Times square (ticket counter at the basement) starting from 14:30 and every hour on the half hour, and from Shun Tak centre (Macau Ferry Terminal) , ground floor on the hour every hour (08:00 to 19:00) Fare HK$70.
From Kowloon. Tsimshatsui at Harbour city (7:10 to 18:40) and at Mongkok, Prince Edward Road. A block away from Nathan Road (07:30 to 19:00) HK$60.
These buses go via the Shenzhen bay border crossing (which is quite convenient as its just one big building where both side's immigration / custom counters are located) and takes a bit less than an hour from Shun Tak Centre to reach. Here again I'the advise you also rush to the immigration counter and sometimes there can be pretty bad delays. And you want to catch the bus to CP (which consolidates passengers from various lines including the HKI airport to CP) which leaves at 20 minutes after each hour, so you only have maximum 25 minutes to clear both sides customs / immigration. Bus from SZ bay to CP a bit less than an hour. (852) 2261-0296 (HKG) and 86-769-8599-8450 (CP)
PROS: Quite comfortable ride and the cheapest way to get to / from CP, most times these buses are NOT full and so you can stretch out. Tip – try to get the second last seat next to the emergency exits – you can really stretch / lots of leg room on these seats.
CONS: Travel by bus in China can be rather adventurous as the highways AND the quality of driving in China leaves a lot to be desired. Also, it probably is the slowest method and will take at least 2-1/2 hours even if you're very lucky.
SEAJ
Jettsetter
08-22-11, 01:21
This information is reliable. I have also confirmed sources that tell me people have been arrested all across Guangdong. Tread carefully.I'm constantly in the region and have been living there and know lots of folks there. Can't say that we have heard of ANY arrests. Let alone "lots of arrests". Maybe there are things going on to others that we don't know, but as far as our scene goes, it's still safe. It's too easy to say lots of 'I heard this and that' type of stuff. But just ask the guys who are on the ground. If something does go awry. You guys will hear about it!
Now that's not to say you'll get some KTV's taking precuationary measures or some "sweeps" of places that show the boss they need to pay their "fees" but as far as arrests. Haven't seen it.
-Jett
Jettsetter
08-22-11, 01:26
If you guys showed up at 6:30 for MF, that IS a little late to get the good selection of gals. MF is a place that at 5:45, the hardcore mongers are there already. In addition, what happens is lots of girls are already preslected on a thurs or Friday because of out of towners. More likely on Friday than Thursday, but still. At 6:30 or 6:45, lots of girls have already been picked!
Not to say the quality has gone down a little. But also what you start realizing is that some girls show up late, so you have to hang out in the back corner waiting for them to come out. So there are some stunners that you have to pick while they're walking.
The key though is that if you see a stunner and she says she's sitting, just grab her number and store for next time. But with youg uys being there for only one night, I know that's not a real option.
Hope you had fun. Sorry didn't get to part with you as much, but will do it next time.
P. S. As an inside thing. We asked about the foot thing in Mongolia. They were laughing at us. Did you pull one on us! If so. That was a good one! Haha. If not, then you must have stepped on someone's brand new pumas, because nobody knows what we're talking about!
-Jett.
It was good meeting BSD, Jett, JustSeven, and others in CP!
I was up at CP on Wednesday, reached there pretty late but met with them for some regular massage and chit chat. They are pretty fun and nice guys, so next time when I get the time to swing by I'll definitely want to hang out with them. This time I'm up with some other guys so we had other plans laid in store.
First night, after we all arrived in CP, my guys and I went to 18. There, one of the mamasans from MF booked us a table at 18 and brought all her leftover girls to hang out with us. I have to say, they were pretty hot. However, on Thursday when we went back to MF, at around 630 in flower street, all the girls belonging to the mamasan are, how do you say it: not that hot. We were all wondering what happened? My guess was there was a huge spike in demand on Thursday compared to Wed!
Anyways on Wed one of my buddies called for MacDelivery and had some girls go with us to 18. One of them just started at CP and is pretty new to this, I just love the girl next door types. Her body was hot, although her boobs are not big. Face very innocent and no make up, but still decently pretty. The funny (and perhaps screwed up thing) was that she has no mami, but her friends wanted a cut from her share for bringing her out to hang with us, if we decided to bring her home. Instead of paying her in the morning, we had to put that off and pay her friend the next day instead.
So anyways on Thursday at MF, we realized one thing is that the girls there at flower street, compared to 2 years ago, quality has dropped. Either that or we came real late and had the leftovers, although there are still some pretty ones, maybe the hot ones went to Yihao? Anyways, I spotted two very attractive and cute girls standing beside each other. I called them to our room and promptly kicked out the others that I initially selected. I also brought the two home. They are twins.
Enuff' said. I just crossed three to-do's off my bucket list. 1. Double Concubines. 2. Sisters, and 3. Twins. And I have to say tt it's a totally different experience tt I have initially expected, ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE TWINS. I am greatly satisfied. *grins*
MF is still 2/5/8, at least that's mine was.
Sardaukar1
08-22-11, 06:15
I'm constantly in the region and have been living there and know lots of folks there. Can't say that we have heard of ANY arrests. Let alone "lots of arrests". Maybe there are things going on to others that we don't know, but as far as our scene goes, it's still safe. It's too easy to say lots of 'I heard this and that' type of stuff. But just ask the guys who are on the ground. If something does go awry. You guys will hear about it!
Now that's not to say you'll get some KTV's taking precuationary measures or some "sweeps" of places that show the boss they need to pay their "fees" but as far as arrests. Haven't seen it.
JettOh, I forgot to add that most of the arrests were in SAUNAS, not KTVs. Sounds like you guys do KTV most of the time, that's why you don't hear about arrests. But there have been quite a few raids at SN's. True stories. But don't worry about it too much, as for now you're still allowed to sing and drink with sexy girls.
P. S. As an inside thing. We asked about the foot thing in Mongolia. They were laughing at us. Did you pull one on us! If so. That was a good one! Haha. If not, then you must have stepped on someone's brand new pumas, because nobody knows what we're talking about!
-Jett.Etiquette Guide. Tips for traveling in Mongolia.
"If you accidentally touch someone with your foot, then you can balance this by immediately grabbing their hand."
http://www.allmongolia.com/en/mongolia/tips/etiquette.html
I wasn't kidding man. Even my mongolian friend accidently touched another mongolian with her feet, she reached out for her hand and shook hands. Okay maybe it's not exactly "an act of war" but it sure is a custom to shake hands if you touch feets!
Not to say the quality has gone down a little. But also what you start realizing is that some girls show up late, so you have to hang out in the back corner waiting for them to come out. So there are some stunners that you have to pick while they're walking.
-Jett.Jett, glad to see you have landed. Hope you have some fun for me.
Yes good strategy for MF is if you don't see anything, go to the back left (if you are facing the flower street) side and many late arrivals will
Come through there. Late arrivals are often new or hot girls. See new girls are late cause they mistime the makeup and hair, and see hot girls.
Have some pull with the mommie and don't get repremanded (good earners). This is from an insider that works there (girl) that told me this.
When I asked about fines for being late. She doesn't get fined. New girls don't get fined because mommie's don't want to scare them away just yet.
Yes good strategy for MF is if you don't see anything, go to the back left (if you are facing the flower street) side and many late arrivals will come through there.MF sucks. For me. That. Is. All.
SE Asia Joe
08-23-11, 15:50
MF sucks. For me. That. Is. All.LMAO! Hooo. Kaaaayyyy BeeTee!
Let me take a stab at replying to you about this smorgasbord that is the Mayflower. And one that has been giving you indigestion of late! Since I HAVE seen you in action and that from your earliest days in CP, you had taken my counsel.
In short. You're just too nice a guy!
The Mayflower IS a smorgasbord put together by a coterie of Cooks, mostly greasy spoon cooks. All competing to have hers the biggest spread and most popular to be patronized by punters. You been pushed around too much and not been selecting items well and worse, you've been eating soup with a fork, porterhouse steak with chopsticks and sipped beer as if it was fine vintage wine.
These Mommies at the Mayflower are mostly all crap and will latch on to ANY gal that can walk up to the KTV! They don't control the girls, don't train them and are just interested in the quantity of gals they can turf out every night. The clients be damned, just so long as I make my cut, who cares! They'll still all come back as we've got the largest number of girls in CP here.
So, what do you end up with? BBS gals trying it out, and finding that HEY, this guy's actually paying me RMB 200, 300 just to be sitting with me I / o me needing to be screwing him! Part timers who are office / factory / restaurant workers, again just trying out their luck, and having in their mind: Hell no, I'm NOT just a WG, I'm NOT and I'm going to hold on to my dignity. The new arrivals in town who don't have enough $$ to be able to work at any other KTV's yet (need deposit, guarantee, uniform fees etc), and thus clueless and then of course -
Gals from other KTV's. Those that's been turfed out from their old KTV's as they're just out of control, have the Princess syndrome and thus of no use as a KTV gal, on drugs, thieves, scammers, have clinging White-Faced BF's who affects their job, even getting into it with their customers etc. All the dregs from the other KTV's.
Yowich. A pretty depressing picture I'm painting here of the Mayflower huh? Welll, yes, and actually perhaps quite an exaggeration! For there ARE quite a number of GREAT gals amongst all that garbage! REALLY!
So. How to find these gems amongst the coal?
EASY!
First thing I suggest is that YOU TAKE CHARGE of your own choice; enough of having anybody else doing the choosing for you!
You KNOW what you like. Go zero in on her yourself.
Second, in the room, QUIT BEING MR NICE GUY. Not with these Mayflower type gals! Most of them have bad habits, and you MUST put your foot down from the very first second that they're in the room. Make them serve you, tell her to operate the KTV for your choice of songs, grab and grope them, show her who's the man! Really! You're paying! You're not on a date! So quit acting as if you're on a date!
And BTW, practice up on your drinking games, especially one-two-ji-ji-cha as then you can AND SHOULD be rough in your mannerisms with her. 15-20 is also good, whilst IMHO, the dice liar's poker is the worst as they all are very good at it and it forces you to be on their same level. So, the more raucous the drinking game is, the more you'll be able to prove to her that you're the man.
Try it! All you got to lose is some more money!
Money which you've been losing all this time with these beatches from the Mayflower anyways!
LOL!
SEAJ
MF sucks. For me. That. Is. All.Like. You. Said. There. Are. Too. Many.
Eurasia (Ou Ya) KTV and Yi Hao KTV flower street has resumed since the past 2 days.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1189599]LMAO! Hooo. Kaaaayyyy BeeTee!
It's nice to meet you in MF on 08-20-11. Didn't realized we actually live in the same city. I seldom browse on this forum, hopefully we can meet up here in our home turf.
FGG
i'm sure many of you already know this but the old foot massage place diagonally across from the train station named jin di li (i think) has now been refurnished into a full fledged sauna that offers seperate services including sauna, oil massage and foot massage.
the price for the sauna is 368 (or 398 i forget) for full service but there are girls in a higher category (468 i believe) for a 2 hour service. the selection is not that great and they only bring the girls in 2 at a time.
the massage is 158 for 2 hours and probably contain some sort of extra service.
the hardware is kinda old and the bed squeeks very loudly. there is no shower bed, only a small shower capsule that can be problematic if you're 6 feet or taller.
performance wise, standard dg procedure. they [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you when you pick them, then off to the showers, cim followed by whatever you fancy on the bed.
nothing special but just thought some people might be interested to know the footie is now a sauna.
cheers
SE Asia Joe
08-26-11, 09:36
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1189599]LMAO! Hooo. Kaaaayyyy BeeTee!
It's nice to meet you in MF on 08-20-11. Didn't realized we actually live in the same city. I seldom browse on this forum, hopefully we can meet up here in our home turf.
FGGHei FeiGoGoh. Same here. Nice meeting you.
When you say "live in the same city" I presume you mean Chang Ping?
Well, not really!
Although I do spend way too much time there, I don't really live there full time.
But yeah, lets get together. Waikeekee has my contacts etc.
Thanks.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=FeiGohGoh; 1190463]Hei FeiGoGoh. Same here. Nice meeting you.
When you say "live in the same city" I presume you mean Chang Ping?
Well, not really!
Although I do spend way too much time there, I don't really live there full time.
But yeah, lets get together. Waikeekee has my contacts etc.
Thanks.
SEAJAiyo bro SEAJ, I meant here in the States lah. Just got back yesterday from a month of stay in CP. Will call WKK for your ctc.
FGG
Jettsetter
08-26-11, 23:46
Etiquette Guide. Tips for traveling in Mongolia.
"If you accidentally touch someone with your foot, then you can balance this by immediately grabbing their hand."
http://www.allmongolia.com/en/mongolia/tips/etiquette.html
I wasn't kidding man. Even my mongolian friend accidently touched another mongolian with her feet, she reached out for her hand and shook hands. Okay maybe it's not exactly "an act of war" but it sure is a custom to shake hands if you touch feets!I'm cool. Just thought it was funny that's all. I think lots of Mongolians don't even know that. I'm sure some other do though. We just didn't happen across any. No worries. Hurry and come back so we can properly party!
I've been back in CP for maybe 4 days now. Had a fun time at Mayflower and a fun time at FH. Life IS good.
-Jett
Jettsetter
08-26-11, 23:50
Oh, I forgot to add that most of the arrests were in SAUNAS, not KTVs. Sounds like you guys do KTV most of the time, that's why you don't hear about arrests. But there have been quite a few raids at SN's. True stories. But don't worry about it too much, as for now you're still allowed to sing and drink with sexy girls.We've been to our fair share of saunas. Still haven't heard anything. And not from our locals here either who have their ear to the ground better than I. Has it been in CP or other outlying areas. I know that because of the Univeristy games, there was some crazy security and getting to SZ was just a pain in the ass. But other than that. In terms of CP. Saunas seemed to be operating as usual (some did take precautions in relocating their floors) , but big ones like HH and MB were still operating as normal the last time we checked with no arrests.
I don't know anything about outlining areas (Chang'An, Houjie, Dalang, etc. Etc.). So I won't speak to that.
For those contemplating. CP is still pretty safe. We all know things can all change within a moment's notice, but at this point, no reason for anybody to be concerned. Business as usual.
-Jett
BSD helped me book a room at Yihao's Sauna. What can I say about Yihao? They have a semi flowerstreet of girls, where they parade them in a huge line for customers to pick every so often when there's a crowd of guys. Yesterday was Friday, a very busy night, so the line-up was scarce. I counted about 29 girls in total. The recommendations that BSD recommended me were ALL OFF! All three girls he recommended was ALL OFF! I was so curious on what they looked like because BSD Dave does have good taste in women.
Anyhow, all fees are inclusive of tips plus room fee. They start at 488 up to 888 depending on this status.
They go with shorter girls wearing blue dresses, then nurse uniform, then red uniforms where you can see the belly, and then Office Lady Uniform and then the models which wear a black long dress.
I chose a black long dress girl for 888 RMB. Quite pricey! But then again, it was my first time there and it was a Friday and she was the only girl I wanted to be with from the lineup. Here are her specs:
Number: 619.
Region: Hubei.
Height: 5 feet 6 inches.
Face: cute, roundish
Body: white silky skin, slender.
Age: 19 years old
Service was alright, she was accommodating but nothing spectacular. But overall it feels good to be in a newer Sauna that's only been open for about 1 year or so. The only complain I had about the room was, the bed squeaks a lot when you are doing it. The bathroom has this funky rotten smell because I don't think their gutter system is working too well. But other than that, it was an good experience. Very expensive though, but then again I don't do Saunas all the time.
I think the best value is to go with the Red Dress girls. They look the best, prices are 688 RMB which is more reasonable. They may not be as tall, but I think they are perfect height for me about 5 feet 4 inches or so. Inclusive of two pops, beverage of your choice, fire and ice and green bean therapy.
Thanks BSD Dave for booking the room for me.
AsnDragon
So I had write this report about Fuhao KTV. Firstly, it was good hanging out with the crew, BSD Dave, Jett, BruceTEA, and everyone else where I know their first names but not their ISG handle so I don't want to reveal too much about their identities.
Fuhao girls are still fairly fun over all. But the last two times I've been there, Bruce Tea can attest to this, I have picked the craziest girls that are so crazy that they are borderline insane. They act as if they sniff cocaine or do drugs. My first girl 2 weeks ago, was an angry girl. She tried to slap me and then she knelt down to apologize. It was just craziness. Then two nights ago, I picked a Chongqing girl, who looked very cute and innocent on the flower street. WHen She got into the room and saw me talking to another girl, she got crazy jealous! She wouldn't speak to me, gave me a dirty eye. Then she became violent and started grabbing my crotch and then Jett's crotch and then other guys in the room's crotch! In the beginning I thought it was funny, but then she ended up becoming more aggressive, her crotch grabbing was almost as if she was trying to pull the head off of a chicken! That added with the fact that she had major Body Odor in her armpits and Jett's Girl had major BO which I could smell from 3 girls down, it became a B. O. Armpit wall of stinky odor that night.
I paid my girl her sitting fee and Left. Stuck out again. At Fuhao. BTW, she wanted me to take her home, she kept on asking me where I lived etc. But I was no prepared to take home someone as crazy and borderline insane as she was.
But Flowerstreet is back at Fuhao. After the Universidad games are over in Shenzhen it seems like CP is getting back to normal again.
AsnDragon
Sardaukar1
08-27-11, 06:37
but big ones like HH and MB were still operating as normal the last time we checked with no arrests.Did you check a big one called Ou Ya?
Or a smaller one called Zhu Mei?
OldAsiaHand
08-27-11, 09:33
Nothing special but just thought some people might be interested to know the footie is now a sauna.Xulander,
If you are talking about Jin De Le, it was always a sauna. Foot massage on the first floor and the FS room upstairs. With the footie, if you took an extra hour you would get an egg white HE inclusive. Nice touch (no pun intended). Total damage: 90RMB. Do they still provide this service?
Original pricing was 128/228/338 for HJ / BJ / FS with 2 pops upstairs. The rooms you describe sound the same as before with the steam / shower booth. It looks like they have just put the prices up by 30RMB. Still good value but the quality of FS girls was lacking whenever I had a look. That said, they always had some very hot footie girls. Some of whom would even give BBBJ or FS in the footie room for a reasonable tip.
Just my POV.
OAH
So I had write this report about Fuhao KTV. Firstly, it was good hanging out with the crew, BSD Dave, Jett, BruceTEA, and everyone else where I know their first names but not their ISG handle so I don't want to reveal too much about their identities.
AsnDragonAD, it was good to meet you as well a couple of weeks ago!
How come you guys always seem to have the "best" parties when I am out of town. Hummm, maybe it is time for some self-reflection! Naaaahhh, it couldn't be me. LOL.
Glad you had a good time and that things are returning to "normal" (if that word can ever be used to describe CP). Looking forward to being back in the SOP!
Sky
But Flowerstreet is back at Fuhao. After the Universidad games are over in Shenzhen it seems like CP is getting back to normal again.Ah yes, normal. Seeing the flower street again, now that's normal. Popping different gals in a day, that's normal. KTV night with the BSD buds, now that's normal.
Woke up that late morning to a pop. Oh so satisfying. Then on to a 3 pm pop. Oh so satisfying. Then some food to prep up for the KTV night. Yummy.
That night, went late (around 7:30). But oh what a surprise to see the flower street on the first floor, right in front of the front door! So AsnDragon and I browsed around and I picked my date after the second circling. Night was good, as the beer got finished before 9. I knew I wanted to take my gal home. She was just so hot and sweet and had a good attitude.
Left at 10 ish (which was pretty early for me) and popped her. 3 for the day, so I had to let her go. She was surprised, but sorry babe, I'm out of ammo and I was so dead tired.
The next morning, I realized I was wrong. I had a hard-on and I needed to find someone pronto. I called up one of my favorite gal and was in my room in less than 30 minutes. Great sex session during brunch time. Then it's off to lunch with Asn Dragon at some weird South East Asian restaurant which was over-priced with bad and slow service. Oh well.
At 3 pm, figured a pop would be nice, so called up another favorite who was working at the BBS. She came over all dolled up and smelling like she was ready to go on a date. Damn they look great right after make-up and ready to go to work. Did her and oh it was another fantastic session.
Is this the norm in CP? If not, it should be. Just ask the veterans of CP. I may be leaving out footies, midnight snackings, shopping, and many other non-mongering activities, but those are in-between time fillers between the norms. I love the norm.
Cunning Linguist
08-27-11, 10:49
Is this the norm in CP? If not, it should be. Just ask the veterans of CP. I may be leaving out footies, midnight snackings, shopping, and many other non-mongering activities, but those are in-between time fillers between the norms. I love the norm.I must say that CP is simply paradise on earth for me. I love China, I love Chinese, I love Chinese girls and I love CP.
Having been here last year, let me say that this year is far better now that I know the ropes. A big thanks to BruceTea for reacquainting me with the BBSes. Really, they are really, really, really great. Another big thanks to Big Swinging Dave who is the king of KTVs and other assorted events. Highly recommendable to any and everyone.
For the uninitiated, BBSes are, seemingly, scary places to go to if you are unfamiliar and if you don't know the mamasan (called mami here). You are led through a couple of steel doors and then, suddenly, there is a room full of girls of all ages and body types and looks. I am still quite astonished even if I had the experience last year. The mami usually calls up one of the less attractive and tries to fob her off on you. Often they often bare a breast so that you can ascertain the colour of her nipple. I always say, 不礼貌; bu limao (not polite) as I think it is demeaning but they keep doing it anyway. Welcome to China! There seems to be less fear of laowais and their monster-dong-screwing-several-hours-at-a-time ways. Then again, maybe they are less fearful if you can speak Chinese. Who knows?
You give the mami a red mao (100 RMB) and out you go with your new best girlfriend in tow.
Along the way to the room, there is the standard get－acquainted conversation and in the room, the girl usually rushes in and plops down on the arm chair or the bed and looks at you with bambi eyes in anticipation. Then off to the showers. I usually shower with the girl. One, because it is arousing, two because I am more sure that none of my stuff will go missing. I am extra cautious, extra paranoiac but in this situation, it is not a bad idea. Then, off to do the deed. I always try to get them to stay for a bit of cuddle time.
This year, nearly all of my BBS girls have been scores. Out of 16 that I have had, only 4 have eschewed the cunnilingus treatment. Indeed, not only did they let me go down, they really got their rocks off on it. Vaginal spasms are impossible to fake even if moaning can be. This is what rock start sex must be like! And it gets better. I now have a select stable of three girls who really, really, really like to be done. Oh, 'tis the money you might say. True. But they stay around. Normally, it is the old in and out and then they're out. WIth these three, they typically stay nearly three hours with me! One time, even 5 hours.
One girl texts me all the time. A big thanks to BruceTea for helping me find her. At first, I assumed that it was just a marketing ploy (indeed, I know if there is no money, definitely no honey) but she does stay at least 3 hours. Texting in Chinese makes for great practice. I write Chinese much, much better than I speak it. Anyhow, this girl, 菲菲 Feifei usually comes at 10:30 pm and sometimes doesn't leave until 1:30 or 2:00 am. She comes in the room, laughs, literally jumps on the bed, laughing, and then plops down on the bed, ready for action. She really likes me to give her head. I mean likes! The first time I went down, she was most reluctant but she is now hungry for it, nay craving it. She claims she was never eaten out by anyone before. Hmmm. Maybe. Her joyful writhing seems to indicate she does get into it. She has no inhibitions at all, Zero. Zilch. She is definitely NOT camera shy and when I get back home, I will share the pictures. Anyway, she genuinely seems happy to come though maybe she is an accomplished actress but, as I said, at least in the orgasm department, her pelvic muscles can't fake contractions and she seems to be more than genuine. What do you guys think?
Another girl also claimed that I was the first to go down on her. Maybe but she also seemed to enjoy it thoroughly. After the act, she was ready to go but I talked her into a cuddling situation. We started talking and the Yunnan native was overjoyed that I knew Thai, at least some. Apparently, her family speaks a Thai language (there is a group of Thai languages spoken in Yunnan. The Thai peoples originated in China and many of them migrated down to present day Laos and Thailand, among other places). She can't speak it but she knew words like rice (kao) , mouth (pak) and the numbers! We talked about all sorts of things, the economy, Yunnan, Yunnan food, BBSes, etc. Not all the BBS girls are airheads. She was the one who stayed for 5 hours and wanted me to do her again before going. Mind-boggling.
I have not gone to a KTV yet. I am on a tight budge this year and I remember last year. I did 12 girls in all last year, half of whom were KTV girls. Not one KTV girl was a total winner. One seemed nice but turned out to be a magnificent actress and accomplished scammer. Another was very pretty but had a nasty attitude. She didn't talk. She watched TV. Moreover, they were expensive as hell! About half were OK. Only one rocked. The ones that were good were all BBS girls.
This year, I have had only 2 negative experiences. 2 so-so performances, but the rest were great. Three really rocked my world! I have not had any problems with my so-called dickus maximus. They sometimes comment but in it has gone, no prob. Thus, if I do go to a KTV this next week (I really miss the company and camaraderie of the guys from last year) , I will accept no BS from a girl who pulls that stunt. I was pulled that stunt on all the time last year if anyone remembers my posts. Love me, love my dong. End of story. No compromise. Bottom line.
I get the feeling that this whole situation will come to an end. As China prospers, as the effect of few baby girls being born begins to make itself felt, I am sure it will turn into a Japan or South Korea situation, at least like Brazil (where prices have reportedly skyrocketed). Sooner or later, probably sooner, BBS girls will demand, and get. 500 or 600 kuai per pop. One wisecrack told me that with the way the American economy has been going, in 40 years, it will be Chinese guys going to the States to experience cheap KTV girls from Texas, Oklahoma and West Virginia! Ha!
For foreigners, you need to know Chinese to get the full experience. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or is clueless. None of the girls speaks any English beyond a few odd words and phrases. This is a great barrier to making CP ever become a Bangkok or Pattaya or Angeles City. Of course, the authorities here would crack down on it forever and faster than fast if low-life types with wife-beater shirts, pot bellies, and misspelt tattoos from Europe and the States started showing up at local BBSes. (They would be priced out of KTVs in any case)
And BTW, practice up on your drinking games, especially one-two-ji-ji-cha as then you can AND SHOULD be rough in your mannerisms with her. 15-20 is also good, whilst IMHO, the dice liar's poker is the worst as they all are very good at it and it forces you to be on their same level. So, the more raucous the drinking game is, the more you'll be able to prove to her that you're the man.I DON'T SPEAK CANTONESE! Isn't one-two-ji-cha a Cantonese-speaking game?
I know 15-20. Even frat boy, JustSeven, knows it. It's fun, but you can only play it like 5 rounds before it gets boring. Dice games can be played longer. One on one, two on two, in groups of 3 to 7, etc. Dice games still rock. But I agree, it would take variety to throw off the gals since they play it daily and are pros at it.
One FUN game I really enjoy is 7-8-9. Yeah, it's a drinking game for those who can drink, but I find it revealing if your date is on your side or conspiring to get you drunk. I mean, when we play it, it is more for FUN than forcing others to drink, so in that atmosphere, guys can tell if his date is a good date or is a biatch. I dunno, but as a very light-weight drinker, I find this game a good bonding game because guys and girls would help me drink every once in a while and it brings out good group interactions.
It's always a good sign if the gal wants to play with you and the group instead of ignoring everyone by singing or just looking at the music videos. I've had nights when the gal just wants to sing and would ignore my friends when everyone is playing dice games together. Those are the worst ones as it shows they just want to get the sitting fee (and maybe a short time) and be done for the night.
As for "the man" insight, I often feel MF gals don't care for "the man," they want the "BigSwingingDick / sucker" guy and if you're not it, then they shut off for the night.
Ah yes, normal. Seeing the flower street again, now that's normal. Popping different gals in a day, that's normal. KTV night with the BSD buds, now that's normal.First off, BT is a GREAT wingman! Second, with the "new" norm, I think the new moniker should be "Home Run"!"Rain out is DEAD" Long live the "Home Run" King!
Sounds like you are killing them Mr."T" Can't wait for the next "swim" in the SOP!
Meiguoguizi
08-27-11, 15:28
I must say that CP is simply paradise on earth for me. I love China, I love Chinese, I love Chinese girls and I love CP.CL, sorry I missed your trip this year.
Happy to see that you've expanded your putonghua ability and continue to preach the cunnilingual gospel to the BBS novitiates.
Keep the faith.
MG
One wisecrack told me that with the way the American economy has been going, in 40 years, it will be Chinese guys going to the States to experience cheap KTV girls from Texas, Oklahoma and West Virginia! Ha!Hi my friend,
I remember that sentence, because I told it to you when we had brunch at the Miraton.
So you are still in CP. Respect! I envy you for it. Have to wait another three months for my next trip.
Got with BSD to a BBS near the Clipper Hotel and found a nice girl for overnight on the last tour. Damage was 620 RMB including taxi and 100 RMB tip. So for that sum it was a great deal, because she was very girlfriendly.
I think next time I`ll try more BBS girls.
Have fun
Greetings from Konsul
Jettsetter
08-28-11, 03:49
Did you check a big one called Ou Ya?
Or a smaller one called Zhu Mei?I'm just passing on information that I know and see on a daily basis since I'm based here. There may be some guy stealing mauntoe's that was arrested last week, I'm not going to know about it. There may very well have been something go down in those places, I don't know. All I'm trying to say is that business as far as the places I go to are as normal. I'm not questioning your CP knowledge my man. It's always good to get perspective and information, and I'm just sharing my own personal knowledge. I've partied at 3 KTV's in the past few days, gone to two different saunas and all were operating as normal. All I'm trying to say brother.
But hey. If you want to stay away for fear of being arrested. Then do what you have to do.
Peace.
-Jett
Hui Mei Sauna in my book has been going down in terms of service and selection as well as room decor. However, my recent trip to Hui Mei Sauna was a good surprise. The rooms are still a bit old and need some updating. No table shower for you to lay down on and have the girl service you. However, one thing that they have added recently is a stage show. They have the available girls run down this small stage aisle and the guys sit down there with a fake rose. When you see the girl you like, you give them a rose and they follow you to your room. This same setup is used widely in Chang An Saunas. However, this new type of selection process, even though it's a bit cheesy it still pretty interesting to partake in.
I got number 82. Very large breasts! For those of you who like big breasts this girl is definitely the girl for you. Service was average, pretty standard. However Hui Mei's service menu is not as large as other locations. They don't do a whole lot of different services that other places provide, such as fire and ice etc. But overall they are pretty on par with most. They do have a stocking service. This service is where the girl wears stockings and you tear a hole in the middle so that you can penetrate them. I don't know what the whole buzz is about tearing apart stockings, I seems like kind of a waste of money to me, but I guess some guys think it's pretty sexy or exciting.
Number 1, although shorter has a very cute face. Great cute smile and big eyes. I did not have a chance to partake in a session with number 1, but she's definitely on my list. She's in the princess category, meaning she's the cheapest in terms of price.
Room rates for a 2 hour session is between 160 RMB to 238 RMB depending on if you prebook with a manager and also the size of the room you choose. Managers can give you a 30 RMB discount whereas if you book through a girl you get no 30 RMB discount.
Happy Hunting.
AsnDragon
BruceTea,
Good hanging out with you buddy! Always a pleasure. I'm surprised that you got out as many pops as you did on your last day. You were on a complete marathon or something. Just when you thought 2 pops were enough, you went for number 3! Way to raise the bar!
Yes the BruceTea and AsnDragon norm is: wake up, have lunch, chicken run at 3 pm, dinner at 5 pm. 6:00 pm lineup with BSD party crowd, party until 10 pm, take the girls back for a long nice session. Then we go back to step one and repeat once again. Life in CP is good-too good.
BruceTea- have fun back home, until next time!
AsnDragon.
Ah yes, normal. Seeing the flower street again, now that's normal. Popping different gals in a day, that's normal. KTV night with the BSD buds, now that's normal.
Woke up that late morning to a pop. Oh so satisfying. Then on to a 3 pm pop. Oh so satisfying. Then some food to prep up for the KTV night. Yummy.
That night, went late (around 7:30). But oh what a surprise to see the flower street on the first floor, right in front of the front door! So AsnDragon and I browsed around and I picked my date after the second circling. Night was good, as the beer got finished before 9. I knew I wanted to take my gal home. She was just so hot and sweet and had a good attitude.
Left at 10 ish (which was pretty early for me) and popped her. 3 for the day, so I had to let her go. She was surprised, but sorry babe, I'm out of ammo and I was so dead tired.
The next morning, I realized I was wrong. I had a hard-on and I needed to find someone pronto. I called up one of my favorite gal and was in my room in less than 30 minutes. Great sex session during brunch time. Then it's off to lunch with Asn Dragon at some weird South East Asian restaurant which was over-priced with bad and slow service. Oh well.
At 3 pm, figured a pop would be nice, so called up another favorite who was working at the BBS. She came over all dolled up and smelling like she was ready to go on a date. Damn they look great right after make-up and ready to go to work. Did her and oh it was another fantastic session.
Is this the norm in CP? If not, it should be. Just ask the veterans of CP. I may be leaving out footies, midnight snackings, shopping, and many other non-mongering activities, but those are in-between time fillers between the norms. I love the norm.
Member #4698
08-29-11, 14:35
information on travel to / from Chang Ping and Hong Kong.
Travel on the Direct train to / from CP – Travel time station to station – not more than 75 minutes, HK$145 or RMB 120.
PROS – VERY comfortable as you're on the train the whole time; you can surf the web (paid WIFI) even 'Dine' on board (BTW, the Chinese trains have pretty good food sets.) , Immigration / custom is a breeze on both ends (TIP – Do like what most frequent travelers on these trains do – be the first to rush out of the train as soon as the doors open – save you LOTS of time!). These trains are usually quite empty and thus you usually can 'stretch out.Thanks for the great information. I think the train is the way to go for me. Now I hate to ask newbie type questions, but here goes: at Immigration, do you leave your bags on the train or do you totally disembark and then take another train on to CP? I ask this question because I am wondering if I shouldn't just travel light with just a carry on suitcase packed with essentials for 4 or 5 day trip.
SE Asia Joe
08-29-11, 14:44
Thanks for the great information. I think the train is the way to go for me. Now I hate to ask newbie type questions, but here goes: at Immigration, do you leave your bags on the train or do you totally disembark and then take another train on to CP? I ask this question because I am wondering if I shouldn't just travel light with just a carry on suitcase packed with essentials for 4 or 5 day trip.No, you just clear customs / immigration in Hunghom Hong KOng, board the direct train, stay on this DIRECT train across the border, and when you reach Chang Ping, you then clear custom / immigration in Chang Ping.
Nice, easy and comfortable.
SEAJ
BruceTea,
Good hanging out with you buddy! Always a pleasure. I'm surprised that you got out as many pops as you did on your last day. You were on a complete marathon or something. Just when you thought 2 pops were enough, you went for number 3! Way to raise the bar!
Yes the BruceTea and AsnDragon norm is: wake up, have lunch, chicken run at 3 pm, dinner at 5 pm. 6:00 pm lineup with BSD party crowd, party until 10 pm, take the girls back for a long nice session. Then we go back to step one and repeat once again. Life in CP is good-too good.
BruceTea- have fun back home, until next time!
AsnDragon.In the old days, there were about 10 guys. Four or five that actually stayed or lived in CP for a long period. Other guys would dropped in and out all the time. We would have lunch, BBS chicken run at 3 or 4. Each one of the BBS would have from 40-50 girls. Now it's about 1/3. We all pop our girls, then dinner, and sometimes with the girls if it was LT. We rarely went to KTV's. Most are still on this board but we all gone our separate ways.
I heard some guys come to CP for only about 7 days. These guys party every single day at KTV's and then leave.
Mit Fo Lfe
08-30-11, 06:37
I heard some guys come to CP for only about 7 days. These guys party every single day at KTV's and then leave.I am one of those that come to CP 2-3 times a year and party almost every night. Unlike most, I have to fly 14 hours and sit in a van for 3 before I can enjoy the SOP. Have to make every minute count.
Yup yup. That would be me as well. Unlike some of you lucky stiffs I actually have a job. I literally stay in CP for like 7 days, KTV or sauna every night, and the head on back. Its like going to Vegas but a bit farther.
I am one of those that come to CP 2-3 times a year and party almost every night. Unlike most, I have to fly 14 hours and sit in a van for 3 before I can enjoy the SOP. Have to make every minute count.
Guitarrefreak
08-30-11, 06:46
But I ought to start doing that now. Seeing that I am a long time leecher (ok in my defense I have been contributing to the Tijuana board.)
DO be cautious about carrying back packs and stuff if you are exiting CP.
Not too long ago I got mugged in broad day light (ok, well that day it was gloomy and drizzling at 5pm) , but this guy came up from behind me and tried to steal my backpack.
He did take off with a piece of jade I wore around my neck.
Monger safe guys, CP is still the wild west of the east.
No, you just clear customs / immigration in Hunghom Hong KOng, board the direct train, stay on this DIRECT train across the border, and when you reach Chang Ping, you then clear custom / immigration in Chang Ping.
Nice, easy and comfortable.
SEAJ
I am one of those that come to CP 2-3 times a year and party almost every night. Unlike most, I have to fly 14 hours and sit in a van for 3 before I can enjoy the SOP. Have to make every minute count.Hell yea! Got to make every minute and every cum count!
KTV night every night. Been there, done that, enjoyed it, and miss it. The only thing cut out from my "norm" is Sauna. I don't know why, but perhaps I need to give the Sauna girls some love. I haven't even done one in CA yet. But KTVs are hella fun and for better or for worst, we look forward to the next party.
@Weelock: I appreciate and truly feel honored to have met the veterans of CP from yesteryear. You guys were the true gurus of CP and playing the field. But I think CP has changed to a point where vets feel nostalgic to what were offered 3-6 years ago. Those who frequented CP have made predictions to the direction CP may be headed for. And the predictions do not look good. In any case, when you vets come to CP, expect changes from what you're used to. But CP is still awesome and CPitis is still recurrent.
SE Asia Joe
08-30-11, 07:10
In the old days, there were about 10 guys. Four or five that actually stayed or lived in CP for a long period. Other guys would dropped in and out all the time. We would have lunch, BBS chicken run at 3 or 4. Each one of the BBS would have from 40-50 girls. Now it's about 1/3. We all pop our girls, then dinner, and sometimes with the girls if it was LT. We rarely went to KTV's. Most are still on this board but we all gone our separate ways.
I heard some guys come to CP for only about 7 days. These guys party every single day at KTV's and then leave.Hell Weelock, I remember clearly that you were also Bitchin' about this, about that, even in the "good Ole Days!"
Nuthin's changed!
LMAO!
SEAJ
Mit Fo Lfe
08-30-11, 07:15
Yup yup. That would be me as well. Unlike some of you lucky stiffs I actually have a job. I literally stay in CP for like 7 days, KTV or sauna every night, and the head on back. Its like going to Vegas but a bit farther.CP is more than a little bit further! I wish I had a job closer so that I'd be able to party every weekend. Though last trip to Vegas spent half the time sitting I'm traffic instead of flying out to SOP land. Ahh counting down the days!
I originally posted this in the Shenzhen forum but perhaps it's more appropriate in the Dongguan forum. Irrespective apologies for the duplicate.
Will be back to China shortly and would appreciate sanity checking some past experiences for this coming trip. Will naturally reciprocate with FRs.
1. GoodView Hotel, Tangxia / Sangem Palace.
Have experienced both all night through a Mamasan from the downstairs bar in the Fantasy night club and also the Paradise Sauna. From the downstairs bar, was quoted 2-5-8. Selected the 8 and then the girl (great looker, no experience and wierd techniques!) looked for 500RMB tip for all night. Is this normal?
Paradise sauna. Took room for the 398 (2 hours). Line up of 2x (500 rate. Also offered 800/1000/1500 but declined).500 to girl. Again, is this normal? Much better technique.
Have found that at this sauna (and others) if you're a westerner looking for a 'body massage' you really need to stress that you understand. They seem (to me) to be very shy of offering service. 'Special service' and 'Superior service' seem to be keywords. Is this normal?
2. Shenzhen spa etiquette (e. G. Queen, SLF WaterCube, Gold Coast)
Always enjoy general chilling in these places. Is it likely to get additional services from a massage in these places? Accepted to ask? In the room? Extract to hotel? All guidance appreciated.
Xie Xie!
AmFan
CP is more than a little bit further! I wish I had a job closer so that I'd be able to party every weekend.Now I wish I was based in CP. Even basing me in Guangzhou is good enough.
Mit Fo Lfe
08-30-11, 18:05
Now I wish I was based in CP. Even basing me in Guangzhou is good enough.Even being based in hk or even Singapore would make me happy
I envy the Bros living in south China or even in Singapur or Malaysia. They hop on the plane and can party every weekend.
From Germany it takes 12 hours to fly to HK. So the maximum for me is also three trips per year. Unfortunately!
That`s the reason to enjoy every second staying in CP!
Greetings from Konsul
Hell Weelock, I remember clearly that you were also Bitchin' about this, about that, even in the "good Ole Days!"
Nuthin's changed!
LMAO!
SEAJYes, I have been screwed a few times by a few girls. When these girls see me, they see sucker foreigner with MONEY. Since I only know a few words of Mandarin, I know some will take advantage of me. I get the feeling they think they could get alway with things more since I am foreigner who doesn't speak Mandarin.
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The most unforgettable was a girl who complained about me being big. It was just an excuse. I am not that BIG. She compalined before starting. She started with a BJ and then decided to stop and not continue with anything. It was getting late and she wanted to go home. It was after 1:30 am. I now for a fact I was at least her second or third customer for the day. Had to call the mommie to intervene. Had to pay her for her time and I never got my dick into her Bush. I saw the same girl 5 months later at the same BBS (Lilly's ). Another mommie wanted me to pick her again. I told her what happened. This BBS girl just looked at him like she didn't know me.
Another time, a girl at KTV kept leaving from time to time. A few time to answer phone calls out side the room. Other times she just got up and walked out. I finally went to find her and found her leaving the bathroom area talking on her phone. She said it was too was noisy in the room to talk. Yea right. Later told my friend, who spoke Mandarin, to complain to her. She said it was an emergency with family. She barely spend anytime with me. When it was time for everyone to leave, she wanted to come back to my hotel later but I decided not to.
The majority of the time there are no problems. Everything goes fine. I guess it's about 1 out of 5 there is a issue and I let people know about it.
Jettsetter
08-31-11, 02:04
Yes, I have been screwed a few times by a few girls. When these girls see me, they see sucker foreigner with MONEY. Since I only know a few words of Mandarin, I know some will take advantage of me. I get the feeling they think they could get alway with things more since I am foreigner who doesn't speak Mandarin.
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The most unforgettable was a girl who complained about me being big. It was just an excuse. I am not that BIG. She compalined before starting. She started with a BJ and then decided to stop and not continue with anything. It was getting late and she wanted to go home. It was after 1:30 am. I now for a fact I was at least her second or third customer for the day. Had to call the mommie to intervene. Had to pay her for her time and I never got my dick into her Bush. I saw the same girl 5 months later at the same BBS (Lilly's ). Another mommie wanted me to pick her again. I told her what happened. This BBS girl just looked at him like she didn't know me.
Another time, a girl at KTV kept leaving from time to time. A few time to answer phone calls out side the room. Other times she just got up and walked out. I finally went to find her and found her leaving the bathroom area talking on her phone. She said it was too was noisy in the room to talk. Yea right. Later told my friend, who spoke Mandarin, to complain to her. She said it was an emergency with family. She barely spend anytime with me. When it was time for everyone to leave, she wanted to come back to my hotel later but I decided not to.
The majority of the time there are no problems. Everything goes fine. I guess it's about 1 out of 5 there is a issue and I let people know about it.We have ALL been there! We've all had our nightmare experiences with various girls. Shoot, I've even had a girl steal my blackberry before. But all these things have added to our experience in CP. Some good and some bad. Fortunately the worst that's happened is a stolen phone and a cold shower from a girl who didn't turn out the way she had advertised. But you have to admit, it's part of the fun of CP (I mean it's not fun to have to deal with it, but it's part of the adventure!). Not knowing if what you're getting in a gem or a piece of coal? Haha.
We'd all love it if it was guaranteed service, you knew what you were going to get each time, but we all know that's not possible. The closest you can come in the sauna but for some reason, it's not as alluring. The fantasy that we have that we somehow ARE different, that we ARE special, that they like us better than the last 100 guys they were with. That's what drives our interest in going back to these KTV's and BBS's. Haha.
I've been coming since 2002. Damn. There were some good and bad times, and yes, we all remember the years of catacombs, when the dollar was at 817 RMB. And when 2-5-8 was unbroken as a price (anything else was just unheard of). But like all things, we must evolve. I'm personally glad I can keep in contact with the rest of the world through my iphone at all times of the day, that internet actually works in my apartment hwere I can sling and stream ESPN with HD quality 24 hours a day. That I can get a decent piece of pizza. Where most (well maybe half) actually shave their armpits.
This modernization of CP. Has come at a cost. Good and bad. It is what it is.
Us as mongers will evolve as well. .
Happy hunting boys. It's not over yet. Fun is still all around us. I just had some yesterday! And the day before, and the day before.
-Jett
ShangHangin
08-31-11, 05:36
We have ALL been there! We've all had our nightmare experiences with various girls. Shoot, I've even had a girl steal my blackberry before. But all these things have added to our experience in CP. Some good and some bad. Fortunately the worst that's happened is a stolen phone and a cold shower from a girl who didn't turn out the way she had advertised. But you have to admit, it's part of the fun of CP (I mean it's not fun to have to deal with it, but it's part of the adventure!). Not knowing if what you're getting in a gem or a piece of coal? Haha.
We'd all love it if it was guaranteed service, you knew what you were going to get each time, but we all know that's not possible. The closest you can come in the sauna but for some reason, it's not as alluring. The fantasy that we have that we somehow ARE different, that we ARE special, that they like us better than the last 100 guys they were with. That's what drives our interest in going back to these KTV's and BBS's. Haha.
I've been coming since 2002. Damn. There were some good and bad times, and yes, we all remember the years of catacombs, when the dollar was at 817 RMB. And when 2-5-8 was unbroken as a price (anything else was just unheard of). But like all things, we must evolve. I'm personally glad I can keep in contact with the rest of the world through my iphone at all times of the day, that internet actually works in my apartment hwere I can sling and stream ESPN with HD quality 24 hours a day. That I can get a decent piece of pizza. Where most (well maybe half) actually shave their armpits.
This modernization of CP. Has come at a cost. Good and bad. It is what it is.
Us as mongers will evolve as well. .
Happy hunting boys. It's not over yet. Fun is still all around us. I just had some yesterday! And the day before, and the day before.
-JettJett,
Well said. This IS China (TIC) , where anything is possible, nothing is easy and everything is a little bit broken. It is about the unexpected. At times, things including girls, go upside-down on you. That's what makes it fun and with every experience there is a story to tell.
I started in DongGuan and CP in '99. The place is unrecognizeable today from those days of 8. 2 to the dollar. 1-4-6 KTV girls, BBBJ foot massage, etc. It means we just need venture deeper, leaving our comfort zone to find new frontiers. I am still having my fun, building a stable of rotating regulars, as well as finding new haunts.
Monger On!
SH
SE Asia Joe
08-31-11, 09:14
Jett,
I started in DongGuan and CP in '99. The place is unrecognizeable today from those days of 8. 2 to the dollar. 1-4-6 KTV girls, BBBJ foot massage, etc.
SH1999? Wow. I musta been only 16 or something like that then! WOW!
It was 1-4-6 and not 1-3-7? At least that's what I thought it was at the Red lion. Which must have been just about the only KTV in CP then; were there others?
And how much were the BBS gals then / how were they? And were they also around the same places now?
Fascinating all this.
SEAJ
Jettsetter
09-01-11, 01:01
1999? Wow. I musta been only 16 or something like that then! WOW!
It was 1-4-6 and not 1-3-7? At least that's what I thought it was at the Red lion. Which must have been just about the only KTV in CP then; were there others?
And how much were the BBS gals then / how were they? And were they also around the same places now?
Fascinating all this.
SEAJWell I never knew the days of 1-4-6. When I came in 2002 (Febraury I think) the prices were already set at 2-5-8. At 8. 17 to the dollar, an overnight at 100 USD was not a bad thing.
The BBS's were 100 to 150. 150 was the new customer price, but often times, you stood at 100, you got the girl. I guess it depended on your status and how loyal a customer you were. Overnight for BBS girls was at 400 from what I recall but I don't ever remember taking any overnights so I can't say.
When I came, KTV's STARTED at 8:30 or so. And it was ONLY at the Lion Hotel. And the mommies were categorized by letter, A, B, C, D, E, etc. Etc. I remember "I" group mommie having the best girls. But it was the only game in town. Back then, we'd go to the "Qing Zu Ge" footie at the first floor of Lucky. Have dinner at the Korean restaurant across the street (both no longer there). And head over to party at Lion at about 8:30, and that was considered the "early birds".
After Lion came Amazon. The first flower street I've ever seen. That long path housed all the girls in four lines and walking the gauntlet was really fun as it's the first pushy mommy girl hanging on your arm experience I ever saw and felt. I remember some guys not knowing how to say NO as the girls were pushed upon them and one of my buddies literally having 12 girls holding pieces of him walking down the corridor. He got to our room with 12 girls scared to death not knowing what to do. Thinking that he had picked all 12 because he didn't know how to say no. (Classic). We called it the movie star experience. Where an unsuspecting newbie is thurst as the "lao ban" and we are behind picking the girls we like. He gets all the fuglies thrust on him by every mommie there. And they were hella pushy!
After Amazon, came the Penn, New Century, HH and Jia Yi (we never tried Miraton back then). This was around 2004 when those hotels were all in place. Now Virgin and Hui Mei may have had KTV's but we never knew about them. So we never went back then. The regular rotation was HH and Jia Yi with Jia Yi being THE place. I remember week of just going to Jia Yi nonstop. Because it was so damn good. Great facilities, all the "it" girls. Those were some fun days.
We regularly hit up HH and Jia Yi for a while until what we thought was a secret KTV around 2005 called "Plutocrat" was talked about in the "inner circles" of ISG as the first topless KTV. We kept it a "secret" for a while. Of course we now know Plutocrat toe be called Fu Hao. And it was not a secret for very long.
First time there, only about 200 girls, nobody there. (I mean flower street was literally me and 200 girls). Obviously exxagerating, but that's what it felt like. Not like the mass of guys that are there now. We soon brought FH into the mix as a regular place because of the craziness of the girls and the topless thing which added another 50 RMB to the tip. I can't remember the last time we did topless. Maybe 2 years ago?
Obvously then came Mayflower and Park Hyatt, and all the other new places and now our town. Our little town from humble beginnings as become a mecca. (and the pricing has followed). All with the dollar being down. It's an expensive addiction. Damnit!
For the veterans. I do have to hear some catacomb stories. The catacombs were an area behind Walter that the local cab drivers could afford. We're talking 30 RMB a pop. WE walked the catacombs in a group and we were a little intimidated. Girls standing in front of metal doors. In little shacks. When you look in all you see is a dirty mattress. Apparently a wham bam situation. Pull down, do your thing and go. I never partook. I just didn't have the metal I guess. But damn. I'd like to hear some brave souls who did it. Earns a few ISG stars in my book. That's general status.
-Jett
Member #4698
09-01-11, 03:05
When I came in 2002 (Febraury I think). The first flower street I've ever seen. That long path housed all the girls in four lines and walking the gauntlet was really fun I remember some guys not knowing how to say NO as the girls were pushed upon them and one of my buddies literally having 12 girls holding pieces of him walking down the corridor. He got to our room with 12 girls scared to death not knowing what to do. Thinking that he had picked all 12 because he didn't know how to say no. (Classic). We called it the movie star experience.
2004 when those hotels were all in place. Now Virgin and Hui Mei may have had KTV's but we never knew about them. So we never went back then. The regular rotation was HH and Jia Yi with Jia Yi being THE place. I remember week of just going to Jia Yi nonstop. Because it was so damn good. Great facilities, all the "it" girls. Those were some fun days.
We regularly hit up HH and Jia Yi for a while until what we thought was a secret KTV around 2005 called "Plutocrat" was talked about in the "inner circles" of ISG as the first topless KTV. We kept it a "secret" for a while. Of course we now know Plutocrat toe be called Fu Hao. And it was not a secret for very long. First time there, only about 200 girls, nobody there. (I mean flower street was literally me and 200 girls). Obviously exxagerating, but that's what it felt like. Not like the mass of guys that are there now. We soon brought FH into the mix as a regular place because of the craziness of the girls and the topless thing which added another 50 RMB to the tip. I can't remember the last time we did topless. Maybe 2 years ago?
Obvously then came Mayflower and Park Hyatt, and all the other new places and now our town. Our little town from humble beginnings as become a mecca. (and the pricing has followed).All I can say is wow and ask myself why the fuck did I not know about this place back then. From ’89 to ’02, BKK and Pattaya were my regular stomping grounds. I mean I travelled around South East Asia, Hong Kong, and visited many countries, but I didn’t really think of looking for girls much outside of LOS. First time I went to Phnom Penh was in '04 and it was still great with sweet girls who would stay all night and do anything you asked; for “up to you.” They made Thai girls seem like mercenaries. Since then I have been branching out. First Macau a couple of years ago, which I loved and now been to 4 times, and then this last trip; the Philippines in 2011 of which I have mixed views. Yeah, I have had my share of good times, but I never experienced what you guys are talking about - SOP and Flower Street. Can't wait!
SE Asia Joe
09-01-11, 05:35
Well I never knew the days of 1-4-6. When I came in 2002 (Febraury I think) the prices were already set at 2-5-8. At 8. 17 to the dollar, an overnight at. Ome brave souls who did it. Earns a few ISG stars in my book. That's general status.
-JettActually, the first time I went to CP was back in 1998;
In those days, the direct train HungHom-Guangzhou stopped at ZhangMoutou and my partner then insisted that we spend a week-end at this then Mecca for the Hong Kong punters.
I remember going to some lavish KTV there but forgot most of the details about that night. The next day though, we all drove to Chang Ping to meet up with one of our suppliers. But it really didn't make much of an impression on me then; thus my question for I wanted to know what all I was missing!
Not much if I recall correctly. I think it was only 2003 or 2004 when the intermediary stop of the direct train got moved to CP.
Anybody recall?
SEAJ
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